[12:01] <willys_fueguino> root, ke hacs ac?? :-
[12:01] <root> see
[12:01] <Epidemik> what program should i use to unzip .rar files?
[12:01] <LjL> Epidemik: unrar
[12:01] <mikewinsdesk> if i was trying to make two nameservers for one domain, what would i name the computer hosting these two nameservers?  Would i just name it the hostname, example.com or would i go ns1.example.com?
[12:01] <dbernar1> willys_fueguino, root: why can you not log in as a normal user to gnome?
[12:01] <Epidemik> will i be able to sudo apt-get unrar? LjL
[12:02] <willys_fueguino> dbernar1, thats a great question---
[12:02] <root> 'cos i dont have the user
[12:02] <willys_fueguino> :-
[12:02] <admin_> Epidemik: yes
[12:02] <Epidemik> thanks you
[12:02] <admin_> Epidemik: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:02] <willys_fueguino> root, pero no tenias el user ya??
[12:02] <root> no se cual es el user
[12:02] <LjL> Epidemik: no, but you'll be able to "sudo apt-get install unrar". after you've enabled Multiverse, that is, since unrar is non-free (there is also a free version, "unrar-free", but it won't open all kinds of .RAR files)
[12:02] <LjL> !es
[12:02] <root> solo se el password
[12:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:02] <raeb> does rar also take care of zip files like in windows?
[12:02] <cherubiel> Epidemik: package name is rar
[12:02] <cherubiel> !rar
[12:02] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:03] <jbinder> hello
[12:03] <willys_fueguino> !en
[12:03] <LjL> raeb: no, it's just a command line program. however, FileRoller (in Gnome) and Ark (in KDE) will support ZIP, RAR, and whatever, as long as you've got the right packages installed
[12:03] <admin_> jbinder: hey
[12:03] <root> when i installed edgy it only ask me the password but no the user
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <raeb> LjL: good to know, thanks
[12:03] <LjL> cherubiel: actually, i think "rar" only contains the archiver while "unrar" contains the extractor
[12:03] <jbinder> !meh
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <LjL> !bot
[12:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:04] <jbinder> !ubotu
[12:04] <LjL> !msg the bot
[12:04] <visik7> anyone know if there is a package for vmware workstation ?
[12:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:04] <LjL> visik7: no there isn't one
[12:04] <anon32> !knowledge
[12:04] <LjL> visik7: you can get vmware player
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knowledge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <LjL> anon32, jbinder, etc: can we stop this?
[12:04] <cherubiel> LjL: right, its just the archiver :)
[12:04] <visik7> LjL: I've the license for the WS and WS give me some feature that I need
[12:04] <jbinder> !test
[12:04] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:04] <Epidemik> okay i think it installed alright, how do i run it?
[12:04] <jbinder> wtf
[12:04] <shwag> on edgy, im getting and error on sudo apt-get update   I get a gzip error
[12:05] <jbinder> wtf
[12:05] <LjL> !ops
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[12:05] <jbinder> !test
[12:05] <anon32> ok
[12:05] <jbinder> !test
[12:05] <anon32> jbinder, !
[12:05] <admin_> jbinder: lol
[12:05] <jbinder> lol
[12:05] <Amaranth> LjL: ?
[12:05] <doomz> !help bla
[12:05] <Epidemik> okay i think it installed alright, how do i run it?
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help bla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <Epidemik> !.rar
[12:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:05] <LjL> Amaranth, jbinder is abusing the bot after being told to not do so several times
[12:05] <domoking> anyone have experience with ati drivers?
[12:05] <Amaranth> !pmthebot
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pmthebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <jbinder> Amaranth: I am?
[12:05] <Amaranth> grr
[12:05] <Amaranth> PM the bot
[12:05] <doomz> !allocate mem resource
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about allocate mem resource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <LjL> Amaranth, that's !msgthebot, and i issued that already
[12:06] <root> where is the wine channel?
[12:06] <blind> root: #wine-hq
[12:06] <Amaranth> #wine
[12:06] <admin_> root: #wine ?
[12:06] <AdamMK> what's the key u hold down so that when ur dragging and dropping it moves the files and doesn't copy them?
[12:06] <root> i need to get it setup so i can test a windows file before i run it on my windows comp
[12:06] <Amaranth> #winehq maybe
[12:06] <LjL> jbinder: yes you are, and you're also spamming the channel by keeping to type (wrong) ubotu commands in series
[12:06] <root> wine-hq
[12:06] <root> thanks
[12:06] <LjL> jbinder: and i just asked you to stop it a moment ago
[12:06] <dbernar1> LjL: and now you are spamming with this argument.
[12:06] <AdamMK> instead of copying*
[12:06] <root> nevermind
[12:06] <root> no one is in either room
[12:06] <jbinder> LjL: when did you ask me to stop?
[12:06] <dbernar1> enough.
[12:06] <doomz> hi, can any one help me ? I've upgraded my pc and now I cant install ubuntu :(
[12:06] <Amaranth> Ahem.
[12:07] <jbinder> doomz: how?
[12:07] <dbernar1> doomz: why?
[12:07] <admin_> doomz: What exactly is the problem
[12:07] <LjL> [00:04]  <LjL> anon32, jbinder, etc: can we stop this?     as well as using !msg the bot
[12:07] <doomz> I get
[12:07] <jbinder> ..
[12:07] <Amaranth> LjL: They stopped.
[12:07] <anon32> LjL, I only did it once..
[12:07] <doomz> PCI: failed to allocate mem rsource #6:20000 ....
[12:07] <blind> They stopped when you got your fancy little @ ;)
[12:07] <Amaranth> doomz: _Everyone_ gets those messages. :)
[12:07] <doomz> it loads the vmlinuz stuff
[12:07] <Answer> What is the best way to remove all the packages that I don't need?  I want to strip down to a minimal distribution
[12:07] <doomz> yeah but hear me out !
[12:07] <doomz> on the boot menu
[12:07] <morla> LjL: thanks for the help, I give up for today :)
[12:07] <doomz> of the cd...
[12:08] <dbernar1> Answer: look at what packages you have installed, and then think of the ones you do not need, and remove them.
[12:08] <doomz> it loads the kernel images and then freezes with this message
[12:08] <Answer> dbernar1, how do I look at them on the command line?
[12:08] <doomz> and Im stuck like this for a month now ... any one have an idea ?
[12:08] <root> what do i need to setup wine
[12:08] <Answer> doomz, burn yourself the latest iso.
[12:08] <constantine-xvi> notsoanon32: i beg to differ, kaffiene, vlc, and mplayer play them
[12:08] <root> i got wine,wine-dev,libwine,libwine-dev
[12:08] <dbernar1> Answer: sudo dpkg -l will list all installed packages afaik.
[12:08] <constantine-xvi> flvs
[12:09] <domoking> 798 frames in 5.1 seconds = 156.851 FPS is that a good number for glxgears?
[12:09] <doomz> Answer: I got the latest dapper
[12:09] <doomz> 6.06 I think
[12:09] <root> did a winecfg, it complained and exited
[12:09] <Answer> doomz, burn yourself the latest cd.  I just did it yesterday it works fine
[12:09] <Answer> dbernar1, any way I could see the last time the files were accessed and remove packages like that?
[12:09] <raeb> domoking: what's your video card ?
[12:09] <doomz> Answer: umm... normal distro ? dapper ?
[12:10] <cherubiel> root: you'd be better off in #winehq
[12:10] <urakaipa> hi there, i'm having trouble by using ssh server: if i try to connect to the server via lan, it perfectly works but if I try via web the answer is connection refused. I correctly forwarded the right port on the router. any idea?
[12:10] <Answer> doomz, whatever you want actually.  the cds work, hundreds of people get them everyday
[12:10] <domoking> raeb: ATI fireGL v5200
[12:10] <dbernar1> Answer: I do not know. Why do you have the urge to remove the unneeded packages?
[12:10] <grover2> anyone running edgy and having swap mounting issues? It seems to be because the swap partition's uuid is changing
[12:10] <domoking> raeb: i'm still having trouble fixing the driver errors (i hate ati drivers)
[12:11] <Answer> dbernar1, so that it can run on a 2G partition with lots of storage space leftover.
[12:11] <TheGateKeeper> Answer: the problem you have is that apt-get is crap at removing dependencies that aren't needed anymore
[12:11] <jelly> domoking: that sounds like no accel.
[12:11] <Epidemik> okay, this isnt working
[12:11] <raeb> domo: i feel ya.  the numbers are quite low
[12:11] <Answer> TheGateKeeper, bingo!@
[12:11] <Epidemik> can someone please help me open a .rar file
[12:11] <jelly> domoking: no accel and a slow machine, even.
[12:11] <Epidemik> the unrar thing didnt work
[12:11] <dbernar1> urakaipa: no other possible reason that I can think of for it not to work. btw, the correct usage would be via the Internet, not via the Web.
[12:11] <doomz> Answer: thanks, thou I some how have the feeling its got something to do with evil nVidia or something...
[12:11] <MarcN> Anyone trying SecondLife on Dapper?  I see some strange unreadable fonts.
[12:11] <cherubiel> Epidemik: errors?
[12:11] <raeb> domo: i can't help you since i use nvidia for all my linux boxes  =[
[12:11] <urakaipa> dbernar1 what do you mean via internet
[12:11] <domoking> jelly: i'm pretty sure my machine is fast i just have these problems with the drivers
[12:11] <dbernar1> urakaipa: nm.
[12:12] <Epidemik> Could not open "SW_AT_Echelon.rar"
[12:12] <Epidemik> Archive type not supported.
[12:12] <Epidemik> thats when i double click it
[12:12] <Epidemik> i have installed unrar-free
[12:12] <domoking> jelly: how do i do I enable accel? also direct rendering is not enabled
[12:12] <jewbilee> wow..
[12:12] <jelly> domoking: my P3/500 had 150fps. ;-)
[12:12] <dbernar1> Answer: there are a couple of commands to clear up the unused packages, and clear the cache of packages...you do want a standard ubuntu installation still on there, right?
[12:12] <urakaipa> dbernar1: not clear. There's not any option for binding local network to external network (I'm not good to explain)
[12:12] <jelly> domoking: eh, can't help you with binary drivers - never used them.
[12:12] <mikm[laptop] > !ati
[12:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> Answer: you could try using aptitude but I don't know if that would be any more successfull
[12:13] <dur> !urban lsd
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urban lsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <LILUGbot> (14/20): the_cia's mind control drug
[12:13] <LILUGbot>  - o)O picasso
[12:13] <johnnybuoy> how do I start an arbitrary command at startup?
[12:13] <cherubiel> Epidemik: tried from the commandline? unrar <rarname>
[12:13] <Answer> dbernar1, TheGateKeeper, actually i want to remove the graphical interface too...
[12:13] <mikm[laptop] > d'oh.  DIdn't realize I was reading backlgos
[12:13] <mikm[laptop] > :)
[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> Answer: in that case I would be tempted to start from scratch with a server install
[12:14] <dbernar1> urakaipa: your router will have a port forwarding feature, and as long as the port forwarding feature is set up right, the router should forward the request to the appropriate machine, which will not be able to discriminate between requests from the Internet or ones from the LAN. That is if you had not messed with the ssh configuration.
[12:14] <Kim^J> Whats the name of the swedish xkb layout package_
[12:14] <Kim^J> ?
[12:14] <Answer> TheGateKeeper, temptation lead me not into
[12:14] <dbernar1> TheGateKeeper: or he can just remove the -desktop package with something like aptitude that removes unneeded apps.
 bash: unrar: command not found
[12:15] <fairramone> Is Ethereal/Wireshark in any of the Ubuntu repositories?
[12:15] <dur> !urban lsd 1
[12:15] <LILUGbot> Getting definition 1 of lsd
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urban lsd 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <LILUGbot> (1/20): D-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide
[12:15] <LILUGbot> Synthetic chemical which, when taken orally or, less commonly, in the lining of an eyelid or nostril, is the most potent hallucinogen known to the common public.
[12:15] <LILUGbot> One of the cheapest drugs available, it is neither addictive nor physically dangerous. Taken by an intelligent, open-minded person, it can create fantastic revelations and experiences.
[12:15] <LILUGbot> It is not a good party drug, and, in a hostile environment such as a party, it can lead to what is known as a 'bad trip', where the person under the influence of the substance in question has an experience which is totally frightening. Fear, depression and anger are accentuated to fill the entire body to a point where entire thought patterns are controlled by these emotions.
[12:15] <LILUGbot> The same accentuation goes for happiness and relaxation, often leading to a state of artificial nirvana, the only difference being that the person is absolutely suggestible and can lose the ability to reason.
[12:15] <LILUGbot>  - fuh?
[12:15] <Kim^J> Anyone?
[12:15] <LjL> !ops
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[12:15] <cherubiel> Epidemik: have you installed unrar properly?
[12:15] <Epidemik> unrar-free installed properly
[12:15] <Epidemik> not unrar
[12:15] <greg> hi
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> dbernar1: well if it will do the job great :-)
[12:15] <greg> !getquote 18
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getquote 18 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <dbernar1> Kim^J: did you ask on the sweedish channel?
[12:16] <greg> damn
[12:16] <dbernar1> pah
[12:16] <Kim^J> dbernar1: Nope
[12:16] <Sonderblade> i want to upgrade an old ubuntu hoary installation to dapper, will that be hard?
[12:16] <dbernar1> !se
[12:16] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
 any ideas, did you see the error
[12:17] <greg> !getquote 18
[12:17] <LILUGbot> quote not found!
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getquote 18 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Kim^J> But whats the name of the xkb packages?
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> !update
[12:17] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:17] <greg> !getquote 1
[12:17] <TheGateKeeper> Sonderblade: ^^^^
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getquote 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <wastrel> greg what are you doing?
[12:17] <wastrel> !msgthebot
[12:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:17] <urakaipa> dbernar1: thanks. so if port forwarding is okay and also ssh server works on lan, it means that the server itself is right configured. so i still not understanding why i'm not able to connect from the web. there's a command to show all the listening port?
[12:18] <Epidemik> what are you doing?
[12:18] <greg> what does !msgthebot do?
[12:18] <greg> wastrel: testing a bot
[12:18] <wastrel> it tells you to /msg the bot
[12:18] <cherubiel> Epidemik: it would be unrar-free <rarname> then
[12:19] <cherubiel> you'll have to tell te file manager to use unrar-free instead of unrar
[12:19] <cherubiel> !rar
[12:19] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:19] <dbernar1> urakaipa: there is, but I do not know what it is. I also do not think you will need it. Make sure that your ISP does not block that port, and also make sure that the router is set up properly.
[12:19] <Epidemik> cherubiel, how do i do that
[12:19] <Epidemik> cherubiel, when i did it through terminal it gave me a list of all the files that failed
[12:19] <greg> !urban lsd 1
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urban lsd 1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <eugman> The sound for mplayer has stoped working today. Any idea why?
[12:20] <cherubiel> !ops
[12:20] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:20] <wastrel> greg:  stop playing with the bot
[12:20] <nalioth> cherubiel: yes?
[12:20] <wastrel> greg:  you can use /msg
[12:20] <jonah1980> join #ubuntu+1
[12:20] <Epidemik> cherubiel, what did i do wrong
[12:21] <nalioth> cherubiel: what did you summon the ops for?
[12:21] <urakaipa> dbernar1: i tried with internet page the test single ports: any of those which are used for ssh server are open, and if I disable the port forwarding on one of that port and run again the test, i can see the difference. it sounds strange
[12:21] <cherubiel> nalioth: greg left, he was continously using /msg inspite of being told over and over again. thanks.
[12:22] <cherubiel> NOT using
[12:22] <cherubiel> sorry
[12:24] <raintheory> !VNC
[12:24] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:25] <cherubiel> Epidemik: sudo ln -s `which unrar-free` /usr/bin/rar
[12:25] <cherubiel> Epidemik: you need that if you don't have rar installed, try to open after this step
[12:26] <icheyne> I want to run a CLI program as a user - but not sudo. How?
[12:26] <icheyne> keep getting an error message saying the the file is owned by a different user
[12:26] <icheyne> sudo does not fix it
[12:27] <LjL> !permissions > icheyne
[12:27] <dbernar1> give us console output on a pastebin, icheyne
[12:27] <icheyne> oh ok
[12:27] <icheyne> thanks
[12:27] <Epidemik> cherubiel, ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/rar' to `/usr/bin/unrar-free': File exists
[12:28] <Epidemik> cherubiel, thats the error i got, i still cant open the files
[12:28] <icheyne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27147/
[12:28] <dbernar1> Epidemik: that means there was a /usr/bin/rar already.
[12:28] <cherubiel> Epidemik: sudo ln -s `which unrar-free` /usr/bin/unrar ; sorry my bad
[12:29] <dbernar1> icheyne: what was the command you ran to get that error?
[12:29] <icheyne> tor
[12:29] <icheyne> dbernar1, tor
[12:29] <icheyne> :)
[12:29] <Epidemik> cherubiel, okay thanks but i got a new error
[12:29] <dbernar1> icheyne: you just said tor on a command line, and pressed enter?
[12:29] <Epidemik> cherubiel, rar: invalid option -- c
[12:29] <Epidemik> Try `rar --help' or `rar --usage' for more information.
[12:29] <icheyne> dbernar1, yes I have tor installed
[12:30] <icheyne> it runs on startup
[12:30] <icheyne> I want to restart it
[12:30] <icheyne> but I get this error message
[12:30] <balzac> hello
[12:30] <dbernar1> how do you try to restart it?
[12:30] <icheyne> apparently I can use HUP to reload it
[12:30] <balzac> i installed easyubuntu but it refuses my password
[12:30] <icheyne> whatever that means
[12:30] <cherubiel> icheyne: you could do a sudo debian-tor and then run the restart
[12:30] <icheyne> dbernar1, I killed hte process
[12:31] <icheyne> cherubiel, I tried sudo but it did not work
[12:31] <dbernar1> icheyne: and then try running the command on command line?
[12:31] <cherubiel> sudo debian-tor
[12:31] <balzac> Failed to run -- 'python' './easyubuntu.in':
[12:31] <balzac>  Wrong password.
[12:31] <balzac> that's what it says when I try to run easyubuntu
[12:31] <raintheory> hey all
[12:31] <balzac> it doesn't like my password
[12:31] <cherubiel> eeks, su  debian-tor
[12:31] <dbernar1> icheyne: one moment, please.
[12:31] <icheyne> cherubiel, command not found
[12:31] <icheyne> oh
[12:32] <jewbilee> would someone mind helping me with playing mp3s?
[12:32] <LjL> !easyubuntu > balzac
[12:32] <LjL> !mpe > jewbilee
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <LjL> !mp3 > jewbilee
[12:32] <raintheory> i'm having some difficulties connecting to my edgy box via VNC from my dapper install..   I can connect to it fine using VNC from Windows
[12:32] <icheyne> cherubiel, that looks like the right approach, but I don't know debian-tor's password
[12:32] <dbernar1> icheyne: sudo invoke-rc.d tor start
[12:32] <icheyne> ah ok
[12:32] <raintheory> anyone think they can help me out?
[12:33] <Seveas> balzac, easyubuntu is not supported by ubuntu
[12:33] <balzac> I wish Richard Stallman could be the dictator of free-software
[12:33] <krazykit> balzac: ugh, no.
[12:33] <balzac> we wouldn't have all these little issues if more people would defer to his judgement
[12:33] <cherubiel> raintheory: using vncviewer?
[12:33] <icheyne> dbernar1, that worked
[12:33] <icheyne> :)
[12:33] <icheyne> how did you find that out
[12:33] <icheyne> ?
[12:33] <balzac> i used to love VLC on ubuntu, but then I upgraded
[12:33] <Seveas> balzac, please keep offtopic talk in here to a minimum -- this is a support channel
[12:33] <Amaranth> balzac: Yeah you wouldn't need easyubuntu because there'd be no non-free software to install
[12:33] <esj> I'm having problems with an NFS stale file handle.
[12:34] <icheyne> dbernar1, how did you find that out
[12:34] <esj> I've tried all the suggestions that I have found but it still persists even through reboots
[12:34] <raintheory> cherubiel:  trying to, but I'm open to other suggestions
[12:34] <dbernar1> icheyne: ya, I tried it here first. Well, it is a service, and services are not ran like normal programs, they are run with that command syntax. Something like sudo invoke-rc.d <serviceName> <start|stop|restart>
[12:34] <balzac> i just want to use skype
[12:34] <Fraj> Hi
[12:34] <icheyne> dbernar1, thanks mate
[12:34] <balzac> i see like 50 different tutorials to install skype on ubuntu
[12:34] <dbernar1> icheyne: welcome:)
[12:34] <icheyne> I'll take a note of that
[12:34] <icheyne> :D
[12:34] <Fraj> how do i set chmod to 777 in gftp? I mean which boxes do i tick?
[12:34] <icheyne> I suppose I should google for HUP too
[12:34] <balzac> but package dependencies are bogging me down
[12:34] <icheyne> cheers
[12:35] <lupine_85> all of them :)
[12:35] <RNt> anyone can tell me why slackware need 5 cds and ubuntu just one?
[12:35] <krazykit> Fraj: all of them
[12:35] <dbernar1> Fraj: read, write and execute.
[12:35] <Fraj> thanks :)
[12:35] <lupine_85> RNt: bloat
[12:35] <krazykit> RNt: it doesn't.  that's just all the packages
[12:35] <krazykit> lupine_85: rofl @ calling slackware bloated
[12:35] <lupine_85> I was assuming it was a 5-CD install...
[12:35] <lupine_85> ...that *would* be bloat
[12:35] <dbernar1> RNt: slackware has all the packages available for download on CDs, ubuntu has only the standard install on the cd, rest of packages online.
[12:35] <esj> it is a five CD install but you only need a 10th of each CD
[12:35] <Seeker2599> what plugin do i need to play .wmv files with totem
[12:35] <lupine_85> ah
[12:35] <raintheory> its frustrating because i can connect using tightVNC viewer from windows just fine
[12:36] <krazykit> regardless, it's off-topic
[12:36] <raintheory> but it wont work from dapper
[12:36] <RNt> thanks
[12:36] <lupine_85> raintheory: if using the xine engine, then libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[12:36] <Fraj> in speacial, user, group or other?
[12:36] <lupine_85> 'though I don't know if totem plays well with the latter
[12:36] <lupine_85> ah well, bed time for me
[12:36] <Fraj> ??
[12:36] <dbernar1> Fraj: user, group and other.
[12:36] <balzac> where is it ok to talk about ubuntu, rather than to just request support
[12:37] <balzac> i need to give some feedback
[12:37] <RNt> is possible totem play mp3?
[12:37] <krazykit> balzac: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe
[12:37] <balzac> thanks
[12:37] <cherubiel> icheyne: tried sudo /etc/init.d/tor restart
[12:37] <Fraj> thanks
[12:37] <raintheory> lupine_85: was that meant for Seeker2599?
[12:37] <lupine_85> raintheory: yep
[12:37] <lupine_85>  /snore
[12:37] <icheyne> cherubiel, thanks again
[12:37] <dbernar1> Fraj: each number represents the permissions for one set of users(user, group, other). 7 means read+write+execute. 777 means 7 for user, group, others.
[12:37] <icheyne> :)
[12:38] <Fraj> thanks :)
[12:38] <lupine_85> to get the 7... 1 = execute, 2 = write, 4 = read (add them together to get what combination you want)
[12:39] <lupine_85> ?
[12:39] <lupine_85> you had it right, I was just explaining what the magic 7 was
[12:39] <dbernar1> Yup. I got it.
[12:39] <lupine_85> 2^3, in this case :)
[12:39] <lupine_85> hang on... is *that* right?
[12:39] <lupine_85> night
[12:40] <dbernar1> night
[12:40] <raintheory> nighters
[12:40] <jewbilee> i still need help with mp3s
[12:40] <jewbilee> i dont know what to do with that stuff ubotu gave me
[12:40] <raintheory> jewbilee: what do you need?
[12:41] <jewbilee> to know how to make mp3s work
[12:41] <dbernar1> jewbilee: there is a page at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats that talks about this. Read it, and follow the instructions and you will know how to play mp3s on your computer. I like your nick.
[12:41] <jewbilee> i did read that
[12:41] <jewbilee> i just dont understand what to do
[12:41] <iamtheric> jewbilee, what about them?
[12:41] <iamtheric> jewbilee, xmms is kinda cool
[12:41] <Paddy_EIRE> how do I get rid of all this nonsense "<-- pooh_beawr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))"
[12:42] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: depends on the client
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> xchat-gnome
[12:42] <krazykit> dunno then.  check their site?
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[12:42] <dbernar1> jewbilee: do you care which program the mp3 plays in?
[12:42] <lupine_85> use xine and install libxine-extracodecs
[12:43] <jewbilee> not really
[12:43] <jewbilee> would prefer amarok
[12:43] <lupine_85> amarok does xine :)
[12:43] <lupine_85> !libxine-extracodecs
[12:43] <iamtheric> jewbilee, i use snackAmp tons
[12:43] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:43] <lupine_85> I really am going to bed...
[12:43] <RNt> anyone uses uira?
[12:43] <jewbilee> does that play mp3s
[12:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Eddie are you there
[12:43] <jewbilee> without having to do anything?
[12:43] <dbernar1> jewbilee: so, install libxine-extracodecs
[12:43] <iamtheric> !snackAmp
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snackAmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <Ninja562> I am havin a hell of a time getting flash to work in any browser. I am AMD64 Dapper, any suggestions
[12:44] <iamtheric> jewbilee, snackAmp plays mps natively
[12:44] <iamtheric> mps's^
[12:44] <iamtheric> mp3^
[12:44] <krazykit> Ninja562: flash support is trash.  you need 32-bit firefox and stuff.
[12:44] <krazykit> Ninja562: or wait a few months and hope adobe releases a 64-bit flash.
[12:45] <Ninja562> Krazykit: 32 bit firefox a no work
[12:46] <Ninja562> krazykit: wouldn't Macromedia release the 64 flash?
[12:46] <jewbilee> where do i find snackAmp?
[12:46] <dbernar1> Ninja562: as soon as they would produce one, sure.
[12:47] <Ninja562> krazykit: Not exactly holding my breath for that one.
[12:47] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my ubuntu can't ping any address
[12:47] <Ninja562> krazykit: Is there a work around using Wine?
[12:47] <iamtheric> dmglouis, you configure your card yet?
[12:47] <dbernar1> dmglouis: and can it browse the web?
[12:47] <dmglouis> iamtheric: what do u mean?
[12:48] <xulund> if eth0 isnt up it cant ping. set eth0 up and try to ping then
[12:48] <iamtheric> dmglouis, statically or dhcp?
[12:48] <G3b> Ninja562: there is a way to emulate 32 in the kernel but i've only ever done it in gentoo....
[12:48] <dmglouis> iamtheric: dhcp
[12:48] <xulund> check if eth0 is up: ifconfig
[12:48] <dmglouis> dbernar1: no it cant
[12:48] <Ninja562> G3b: is it a difficult implementation?
[12:48] <nuked_omen> what is recompiling a kernel and what's the need for it?
[12:49] <dmglouis> actually right now, whenever i ping it says network unreachable
[12:49] <anacaona> hello hello
[12:49] <xulund> yes becuse, eth0 isnt up
[12:49] <anacaona> curious: when i use the system --> administration --> disks too, which system config file does it modify?
[12:49] <dmglouis> xulund: eth0 isnt set up?
[12:49] <xulund> try dhcp it should work
[12:49] <G3b> Ninja562, no really, i'm sure there is a guide somewhere.... this was the guide for gentoo, so not sure how useful it is: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_firefox_with_java_on_amd64
[12:49] <Paddy_EIRE> will a proper working Flash Professional app/alternative ever be released for linux, I've seen the non working f4l (flash 4 Linux) and was not impressed.  Surely the open source community can do this??
[12:50] <anacaona> cuz i want to change how it sets up permissions on partitions mounted through this utility
[12:50] <Ninja562> G3b: Thx.
[12:50] <dmglouis> xulund: ok let me try it again
[12:50] <xulund> " actually right now, whenever i ping it says network unreachable" = eth0 is down normally... check this by writing ifconfig, if there is only lo eth0 is down
[12:50] <G3b> Ninja562: Sorry, link for flash is at bottom of that page
[12:51] <dmglouis> xulund: ifconfig shows eth0 too
[12:51] <riddlebox> could a bad keyboard lock up my system?
[12:51] <xulund> ok
[12:51] <dbernar1> nuked_omen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:51] <xulund> then it is some else problems
[12:52] <epimer> hi guys
[12:52] <dmglouis> xulund: something else?
[12:52] <epimer> i think i'm being really daft here - i formatted yesterday and have upgraded to edgy and can't find the cursor set i used to use
[12:53] <epimer> it was almost the same as the default, but had e.g. animated ubuntu logos when loading
[12:53] <epimer> anyone know what i'm talking about?
[12:53] <epimer> (looking all through gnome-look.org and drawing blanks)
[12:53] <Ninja562> G3b: Found it, looks intimidating
[12:53] <iamtheric> epimer, gnome, kde, what?
[12:54] <epimer> gnome.
[12:54] <epimer> i'd post a screenshot of what i mean...but those got lost in the format, too :-/
[12:55] <epimer> it's only a minor thing but it's driving me nuts
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !f4l
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f4l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <nuked_omen> so there isn't really much need to recompile the kernel
[12:56] <nuked_omen> i thought a lot of people do it
[12:56] <RNt> (gedit:7196): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:56] <RNt> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:56] <RNt> What is this?
[12:56] <nuked_omen> for some good reason
[12:56] <dbernar1> RNt: how did you get it?
[12:56] <dbernar1> nuked_omen: mhm.
[12:56] <RNt> dbernar1: trying to update the apt-get packages
[12:57] <G3b> Ninja562: Yea, your right, although the only alternative that i can think of is 32-bit firefox. A guide can be found here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[12:57] <dbernar1> RNt: i find that hard to believe. You just ran sudo apt-get update, or what?
[12:57] <RNt> I used the command gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <dbernar1> RNt: it means that you were in a console, or through ssh, or something to that extent.
[12:58] <nuked_omen> dbernar1, i'm not a developer, i don't really need more features, and i don't debug problems i just wait for them to get resolved
[12:58] <RNt> ah ok
[12:58] <RNt> thanks
[12:58] <dbernar1> nuked_omen: right.
[12:59] <dbernar1> nuked_omen: same here.
[12:59] <jewbilee> i really need help with multimedia stuff
[12:59] <Isaacariah> anyone here compiled wine from source?
[12:59] <jewbilee> i just cant get mp3s to work...
[12:59] <dbernar1> jewbilee: did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[12:59] <jewbilee> yes
[12:59] <dbernar1> jewbilee: you sure? And amarok still can not play your mp3s?
[12:59] <Shadow_mil> why does samba keeps giving me this error when I try to change my smbpasswd?
[01:00] <Shadow_mil> Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[01:00] <nuked_omen> dbernar1, thanx, glad that that cleared out
[01:00] <jewbilee> everytime i play it in amarok
[01:00] <jewbilee> it says playlist finished
[01:00] <dbernar1> nuked_omen: sure, you are welcome.
[01:00] <jkelly2005> hello everyone, i need some help with playing video in ubuntu. mplayer says that it cant access the video device. my graphics card is a ATI Radeon 9200 mac mini G4 ubuntu edgy ppc.
[01:00] <iamtheric> epimer, look in the repositories for it
[01:00] <iamtheric> !pekwm
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pekwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <iamtheric> nuked_omen, i install pro stock kernels
[01:00] <Isaacariah> jewbilee, can any media player play MP3's?
[01:00] <jewbilee> yea
[01:00] <Isaacariah> so its just amarok?
[01:00] <Isaacariah> thats playing up
[01:00] <jewbilee> Rythmbox
[01:00] <jewbilee> yea
[01:00] <Shadow_mil> Isaacariah: a lot of players can play MP3s
[01:01] <jewbilee> but rhythmbox also crashes everytime i try to import a folder
[01:01] <Isaacariah> Shadow_mil, I know.
[01:01] <dbernar1> jkelly2005: what is the video file format+codec?
[01:01] <RNt> rythmbox uses the same plugin of amarok?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> !mp3 > Isaacariah
[01:01] <Isaacariah> ?
[01:01] <jkelly2005> dbernar1: .flv(flash video)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Isaacariah: read the pm from ubotu
[01:01] <iamtheric> I feel myself scarcely competent to judge ubuntu multimedia apps
[01:01] <iamtheric> jewbilee, just use snackamp, its really light and plays mp3
[01:01] <dbernar1> jkelly2005: sorry, I never had to play that.
[01:02] <jewbilee> i cant find snackamp
[01:02] <dmglouis> ok pinging now says destination host unreachable but the network cards got an address by dhcp now
[01:02] <dbernar1> RNt: no, it uses a different one.
[01:02] <jewbilee> iamtheeric: where is it?
[01:02] <dmglouis> can anyone help me?
[01:02] <Isaacariah> gnomefreak, I aint the one having multimedia problems ;) Its jewbilee
[01:02] <dbernar1> jewbilee: try xmms, it is in universe.
[01:02] <jkelly2005> dbernar1: well, it happens with any video file
[01:02] <iamtheric> jewbilee, you have to dl it from their site
[01:02] <Paddy_EIRE> is it possible to tell "gnome-screenshot" what the default resolution is for its screen shots?
[01:02] <dbernar1> jkelly2005: did you try playing a .mpg with totem?
[01:03] <Isaacariah> Anyone here ever compiled Wine from sourcE?
[01:03] <iamtheric> Paddy_EIRE, its the same as your desktop
[01:03] <jewbilee> iamtheric: what is their website?
[01:03] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[01:03] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[01:03] <dbernar1> Isaacariah: did you ask at #winehq?
[01:03] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my ubuntu comp cant connect to internet
[01:03] <Isaacariah> I didnt, I'll head over there know thanks dbernar1
[01:04] <gnomefreak> !wine
[01:04] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ^^ instructions to build it
[01:04] <Isaacariah> I know how to build it
[01:04] <jewbilee> oh god..
[01:04] <The-Eddieduce> Are ther any users with Wine experience(No jokes please)? The Wine site's dead.
[01:04] <jewbilee> lol
[01:04] <jewbilee> someone wanna help me with installing tar.gzs?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Isaacariah: why are you asking if anyone has than?
[01:04] <Isaacariah> cause i wanna know how long make is gunna take
[01:04] <Isaacariah> its been like, 20 minutes since I typed it
[01:05] <dbernar1> jewbilee: try installing xmms through synaptic/apt first, and see whether that plays the mp3s for you.
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Isaacariah: depends on cpu it can take up to an hour or 2
[01:05] <jewbilee> ok
[01:05] <jewbilee> and for some reason
[01:05] <jewbilee> i cant remove amarok
[01:05] <Isaacariah> oh my life
[01:05] <jewbilee> says something is dependant on it
[01:05] <jkelly2005> dbernar1: strange, i tried a .avi file in totem and it plays but mplayer in ubuntu dapper played .flv files ok. it seems like an mplayer problem. mplayer wont play any video.
[01:05] <Isaacariah> its gunna be a late night
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Isaacariah: on a p4 1.7mhz on one app make took 6 hours
[01:06] <dmglouis> can someone help me? ubuntu doesn't get internet but is connected through router
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Isaacariah: it all depends on what flags you used the cpu the app
[01:06] <Isaacariah> ppfft
[01:06] <Isaacariah> is that the longest process, "make"?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Isaacariah: yes
[01:06] <Isaacariah> thats good
[01:06] <dbernar1> Isaacariah: make is the compilation, right gnomefreak ?
[01:06] <Isaacariah> I had to change some source thingy just so some dumb game would work
[01:07] <gnomefreak> checkinstall/make install really doesnt take much time
[01:07] <dbernar1> dmglouis: post the output of ifconfig to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:07] <Isaacariah> thats good
[01:07] <gnomefreak> dbernar1: no ./configure compiles it make makes it
[01:07] <dbernar1> gnomefreak: :-/
[01:07] <AdamMK> is there any way to obtain video previewing? like the audio previewing where if u hold ur mouse over the file it starts playing?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> make install installs it :)
[01:07] <jewbilee> yea, XMMS worked
[01:07] <dmglouis> dbernar1: i cant that comp cant connect to internet
[01:07] <dbernar1> jewbilee: ya, that is what I use.
[01:07] <jewbilee> anyway to get rid of the debian logo
[01:07] <jewbilee> ?
[01:07] <dbernar1> dmglouis: is there an eth0 entry in there?
[01:07] <iamtheric> jewbilee, my connect is less than 4kbps, i cant
[01:07] <iamtheric> The-Eddieduce, you sure its dead?
[01:07] <iamtheric> jewbilee, un compress
[01:07] <gnomefreak> bbiab
[01:08] <dmglouis> dbernar1: yes
[01:08] <jewbilee> wow..
[01:08] <jewbilee> XMMS is such a rip of winamp..
[01:08] <dbernar1> jewbilee: you can try beep-media-player, that has an ubuntu theme. Google about it a little. it is also installable through apt-get or synaptic.
[01:08] <krazykit> jewbilee: that was the point :-P
[01:08] <dmglouis> dbernar1: it has inet address and inet6 address
[01:08] <jewbilee> haha
[01:08] <dbernar1> dmglouis: what is the inet address?
[01:08] <jewbilee> its very handy
[01:08] <dmglouis> dbernar1: 192.168.2.132
[01:09] <Isaacariah> any quick way to find out my CPU specs?
[01:09] <krazykit> Isaacariah: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:09] <Isaacariah> cheers
[01:09] <dbernar1> dmglouis: and what is your router IP address?
[01:09] <dmglouis> dbernar1: 192.168.2.1
[01:09] <The-Eddieduce> Not now since another user asked for assistance there. thanks.
[01:09] <dbernar1> dmglouis: and you can not ping that at all?
[01:09] <yokobr> hi, someone can help me to install ktoon on ubuntu 64?
[01:09] <Isaacariah> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
[01:09] <Isaacariah> hopefully wont take too long then
[01:09] <jewbilee> so where can i get more skins for XMMS
[01:10] <dmglouis> dbernar1: it says destination host unreachable on terminal
[01:10] <Homer> jewbilee: xmms skills are winamp compatable
[01:10] <Homer> skins
[01:10] <dbernar1> dmglouis: and what do the eth0 related lines in /etc/network/interfaces say?
[01:11] <jewbilee> wow..
[01:11] <jewbilee> thats totally awesome
[01:11] <jewbilee> lol
[01:11] <dmglouis> dbernar1: iface eth0 inet dchp
[01:11] <Ninja562> thats a wrap for today folks, bye
[01:11] <DJ_Danni> Hey i need help to install PHP MySql extension libraries. Can somone help me with that?
[01:11] <dbernar1> dmglouis: and does "sudo ifdown eth0&&sudo ifup eth0" report any errors?
[01:12] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: ask "aptitude search php|grep mysql"
[01:12] <DJ_Danni> In Terminal?
[01:12] <ks1> dbernar1, you mean "sudo ifdown eth 0 && sudo ifup eth0" ?
[01:12] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: yes.
[01:13] <ks1> er typo
[01:13] <ks1> dbernar1, you mean "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" ?
[01:13] <dbernar1> ks1: well, mine seems fine too. space is not needed, really.
[01:13] <ks1> i dont know if it will work with the && all together
[01:13] <dbernar1> it will, thanks.
[01:13] <dmglouis> dbernar1: well its working right now
[01:13] <dmglouis> dbernar1: not the internet
[01:13] <dbernar1> so that fixed it?
[01:13] <DJ_Danni> dbernarl i get a manny list
[01:13] <DJ_Danni> PM Me
[01:14] <jewbilee> so if winamp skins are compatible
[01:14] <jewbilee> what do i have to do to install it"
[01:14] <dmglouis> dbernar1: it said no DCHPOFFERS received
[01:14] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: ask google about ubuntu lamp
[01:14] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: there are many tutorials on this topic.
[01:14] <dmglouis> no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[01:14] <DJ_Danni> I get manny List
[01:14] <Shadow_mil> Does Compwiz *have to have* XGL?
[01:14] <blackgraz> ok
[01:14] <blackgraz> im having problems
[01:15] <blackgraz> after i install all i get is GRUB with a blinking cursor
[01:15] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: follow this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ask if something is not clear.
[01:15] <Shadow_mil> compiz*
[01:15] <dmglouis> dbernar1: now the network is unreachable
[01:16] <dbernar1> dmglouis: it means that it can not get a lease from the router. Are you the owner of this router?
[01:16] <firefly2442> How do you rename an auto mounted external hard-drive?
[01:16] <dmglouis> dbernar1: yes
[01:16] <|thunder> dang, gnome baker takes an eternity covnerting mp3 to cdda to burn to Cd. Is there a nix version of nero, anyone ?
[01:16] <dbernar1> dmglouis: and do you have some kind of security set up for the router?
[01:16] <dmglouis> dbernar1: im not sure
[01:16] <dbernar1> firefly2442: take a marker, and write its new name on the case.
[01:17] <dbernar1> dmglouis: are there other computers using this router right now?
[01:17] <|thunder> firefly2442; rename the mountpoint ?    you have to edit fstab
[01:17] <dmglouis> dbernar1: yea this one and another one
[01:17] <jewbilee> can someone help me install a winamp skin for xmms
[01:17] <ciscosurfer> Question :: I have a kernel question for any kernel gurus
[01:17] <nn> any ideas on getting DoD CAC cards working in dapper? :)
[01:18] <dmglouis> dbernar1: what security stuff on the router could cause a problem for ubuntu?
[01:18] <ks1> |thunder, there is a *nix version of nero. I would personally try brasero it works great.
[01:18] <ciscosurfer> When I upgraded to Edgy, I could actually Restart/Reboot fully (wouldn't have to hit my power button to reset) ... in Dapper, I cannot do this, do you think this is a kernel issue or something else?
[01:18] <dbernar1> dmglouis: it is not a problem just for ubuntu. Basically, your router is not giving you a dhcp lease, which is an IP address.
[01:18] <MarcN> |thunder: doesn't k3b do the conversion too?
[01:18] <dbernar1> dmglouis: ifconfig should now show no address for eth0.
[01:18] <|thunder> thanks ks1 ill try it out
[01:19] <dmglouis> dbernar1: how come everytime i restart, it gets an address?
[01:19] <ks1> k3b is very good also but requires kdelibs
[01:19] <dbernar1> dmglouis: not sure, it should not make a difference.
[01:19] <DJ_Danni> Shut i see a PHP MyI have already do this all but i still get errors.
[01:19] <dmglouis> dbernar1: it does though
[01:19] <dbernar1> dmglouis: is eth0 shown in ifconfig with no inet addr?
[01:19] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me on thos IRC
[01:19] <dmglouis> dbernar1: well i just restarted so probably
[01:20] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: what errors?
[01:20] <dmglouis> dbernar1: will have an inet add
[01:20] <dbernar1> dmglouis: let me know.
[01:20] <DJ_Danni> The PHP MySql extension libraries are not installed on this server. This
[01:20] <firefly2442> |thunder: I don't see the name in fstab, is info stored someplace else for automounting?
[01:20] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: what gives you that error?
[01:20] <|thunder> firefly2442; ohh, auto mount.  nopt sure.
[01:21] <DJ_Danni> When i am installing annythang with mysql Dadabase.
[01:21] <dmglouis> dbernar1: yup it has an inet add
[01:22] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: and what apache do you have?
[01:22] <DJ_Danni> I have Apache 2
[01:22] <bombero> hi friends, got new machine (2x 1000MHz Intel i386), how to chnge the standard kernel to SMP ? with apt-get
[01:22] <dbernar1> dmglouis: hm. and still no ping anywhere?
[01:22] <DJ_Danni> i did sudo apt-get install apache2
[01:22] <dmglouis> dbernar1: only to itself lol
[01:22] <dbernar1> dmglouis: not sure why it would do that at all. good luck.
[01:23] <|thunder> firefly2442; hit F2 on the desktop icon maybe. lol. but that wont change the mount point.
[01:23] <dmglouis> dbernar1: lol, you give up?
[01:23] <dmglouis> dbernar1: oh well thanks anyway
[01:23] <|thunder> firefly2442; nm, that dosnt work on hard drive icons
[01:23] <|thunder> gotta run to band rehersal. later all.
[01:23] <dbernar1> bombero: during install or after install?
[01:23] <DJ_Danni> dbernarl i am using apache2
[01:24] <dbernar1> dmglouis: yes, there is nothing else I can think of to do. you're welcome.
[01:24] <hikenboot> hello all I have tried for the last couple days to get the nvidia drivers working on this ubuntu host to no evail...I was able to get xwindows working by launching startx as root but when it boots regularly into graphical mode xwindows crashes...any idea?
[01:24] <bombero> dbernar1, during install, im using the alternate CD -server install,
[01:24] <dbernar1> DJ_Danni: I suggest you remove everything you did so far, and follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP I followed those and it worked.
[01:25] <sureshot> does dapper have an server iso
[01:25] <firefly2442> sureshot: yes
[01:25] <DJ_Danni> But it is all here:S:S
[01:25] <snakeman> anyone running intelliJ 6.0+ in Ubuntu 6.06?
[01:25] <sureshot> just cant find it i will look harderr
[01:25] <snakeman> debugging is VERY SLOW
[01:25] <TLE> sureshot: sure, it's in the download site. It's one of the options on the alternate cd
[01:26] <sureshot> thanks TLE
[01:26] <sureshot> going there now
[01:27] <johnnybezak> hey everyone
[01:28] <dbernar1> bombero: I can only think of installing the normal kernel, then installing the smp one later, and changing the boot sequence to boot that kernel by default. To change the default kernel to boot, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file after the install.
[01:28] <hikenboot> in the log I get the following messages failed to initialize GLX extension xf860OenSerial cannot open device /dev/wacom no such file or directory
[01:28] <dbernar1> bombero: try reading the help on the install cd, it may have additional info for you.
[01:28] <bombero> dbernar1, ok thanx
[01:29] <johnnybezak> anyone know how to ignore the joins leavges messages in irssi
[01:29] <dbernar1> johnnybezak: /help ignore
[01:30] <bruenig> when you do "aptitude search whatever" what do the p's and i's mean that precede the packages
[01:30] <johnnybezak> dbernar1: didn't do anything...
[01:30] <dbernar1> johnnybezak: look in your first window(alt+1).
[01:30] <dbernar1> johnnybezak: so, /ignore #ubuntu +joins would add the joins to the ignore list on the ubuntu channel.
[01:31] <dbernar1> p means it is a package. i means it is installed.
[01:31] <johnnybezak> dbernar1: duhh.. hehe thanks :)
[01:31] <bruenig> thank you
[01:31] <bruenig> what about id and v
[01:32] <sergevn> Does anyone has know issue's using Mplayer and Youtube at the sametime and one of them has no sound? I think the driver locks the sound device then, but can this be disabled?
[01:32] <lenny> anyone know the channel for initng help?
[01:32] <sergevn> Youtube = Flashplayer.
[01:33] <TLE> sergevn: Yeah I think flash uses the OSS sound system, and that can only handle one input
[01:33] <johnnybezak> sergevn: have you tried using a diff driver
[01:33] <dbernar1> v is virtual id means it is set for deletion, I guess. run aptitude by itself in a terminal, then read the help page with ? at the bottom there is a little bit of an explanation. Some of the letters are still unclear to me.
[01:33] <jkelly2005> im having trouble with mplayer playing flash video files. the sound lags. anyone know a fix for this?
[01:33] <dbernar1> lenny: are you sure it is not #initng?
[01:33] <logankoester> I've installed my own copy of php and apache (part of the zend framework) - will this prevent me from installing mysql via apt-get?
[01:34] <sergevn> TLE: johnnybezak: I use the alsa driver :)
[01:34] <lenny> ha yeah it is, I mis-typed it
[01:34] <dbernar1> lenny: google is faster at answering such questions, though. I used "initng help channel irc" it told me that right away.
[01:35] <lenny> yeah initng looks to be empty
[01:35] <sergevn> TLE: What drive can I use for that then ? :)
[01:36] <dbernar1> lenny: ya, they have upstart now.
[01:37] <TLE> sergevn: Look I'm not sure. But as far as I have understood, OSS options will totally occopy your sound-device, and is the app only supports OSS out there is no fix. I think there is the same problem with Skype btw
[01:37] <shwag> where are the working beryl repos ?
[01:37] <TLE> sergevn: options -> applications
[01:37] <lenny> upstart isn't as fast as initng from what I have read
[01:37] <TLE> sergevn: I must be drunk
[01:37] <flyinghippo> Hello.
[01:37] <lenny> supposedly that is not the point of upstart?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> shwag: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:37] <flyinghippo> I have downloaded the server edition.
[01:38] <flyinghippo> And I have successfully installed it onto my 2GB USB Drive.
[01:38] <flyinghippo> Out of curiousity, does it include a desktop software such as GNOME?
[01:38] <flyinghippo> If not, would it be easy to install it.
[01:38] <flyinghippo> *?
[01:39] <WinstonWolf> I have a feeling I am going to get flamed over this but...
[01:39] <ciscosurfer> When I upgraded to Edgy, I could actually Restart/Reboot fully (wouldn't have to hit my power button to reset) ... in Dapper, I cannot do this, do you think this is a kernel issue or something else?
[01:39] <Phlosten> flyinghippo: does not have gnome by default
[01:39] <bluefox83> ok...i need to change my xchat background colors before i go blind...
[01:39] <dbernar1> flyinghippo: no it does not. the package name is ubuntu-desktop, and it should get everything for you.
[01:39] <flyinghippo> Okay, thank you.
[01:39] <WinstonWolf> I am an avid SlackWare user and trying to make the switch to Ubuntu on my laptop
[01:39] <flyinghippo> What desktop software does it have?
[01:39] <flyinghippo> GNOME?
[01:40] <WinstonWolf> but I can't stand the fact that I dont have a built in C envinronment
[01:40] <flyinghippo> Wait, Ubuntu-Desktop?
[01:40] <Phlosten> flyinghippo: ubuntu-desktop = gnome, kubuntu-desktop = kde
[01:40] <johnnybezak> WinstonWolf: so whats up
[01:40] <flyinghippo> Do you mean the desktop edition?
[01:40] <blackgraz> man
[01:40] <johnnybezak> WinstonWolf: install it
[01:40] <WinstonWolf> and I have tried to install the packages using apt-get but I get GCC4 and made 3.4 witch do not jive
[01:40] <blackgraz> can anyone tell me why ubuntu won't boot
[01:40] <TLE> flyinghippo: No you can install the metapackage
[01:40] <dbernar1> flyinghippo: the ubuntu-desktop package will install all the standard desktop applications of an Ubuntu install. Ubuntu desktop uses gnome.
[01:40] <flyinghippo> Oh.
[01:41] <flyinghippo> Okay.
[01:41] <flyinghippo> So it's a package that can install onto the server edition?
[01:41] <mcphail> flyinghippo: trying to install GNOME on to a 2GB drive will be a real challenge
[01:41] <Phlosten> flyinghippo: its a meta-package that installs everything required
[01:42] <sergevn> TLE: Can i try installing the nvidia driver?
[01:42] <TLE> flyinghippo: if you're lagging space perhaps you should look for a smaller desktop enviroment
[01:42] <WinstonWolf> so anyt thoughts on the problems of gcc 4 and make 3.4?
[01:42] <flyinghippo> Would KDE be small enough?  =/
[01:42] <johnnybezak> WinstonWolf: are you using edgy or dapper
[01:43] <dbernar1> WinstonWolf: have you tried build-essential?
[01:43] <WinstonWolf> there doesn't seem to be a full C enviroment avaialble in ubuntu for gcc4 but if I try to install gcc3.4 I get all sorts of errors
[01:43] <Smotang> He does anyone know of a list of Console Commands? What i need at the moment is commands to navigate thru the filesystem using console
[01:43] <WinstonWolf> dbernar1 - I have not tried build-essential -- is that an option package from apt-get?
[01:43] <docmur> Any one here know of a CUPL program for linux
[01:44] <AWOSDev> Smotang, try "mc"
[01:44] <jrib> ubotu: tell Smotang about cli
[01:44] <Smotang> AWOSDev: MC?
[01:44] <johnnybezak> Smotang: ls = list directory, cd = change directory
[01:44] <AWOSDev> Smotang, you may have to apt-get it.
[01:44] <WinstonWolf> forgiveme but apt-get and any other software manager are foreight no me - I am used to downloading source and building
[01:44] <flyinghippo> Actually...
[01:44] <flyinghippo> Doesn't Apt-Get have KDE?
[01:44] <AWOSDev> Smotang, "sudo apt-get install mc"
[01:44] <dbernar1> WinstonWolf: ya, install that package. It is essential for building software.
[01:44] <AWOSDev> flyinghippo, yes, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:44] <LjL> WinstonWolf: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" will install gcc, make, and other stuff you normally need for compiling
[01:44] <flyinghippo> Okay.
[01:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Smotang about cli
[01:45] <Crippy-Boy> Hey, im just wondering, is there any way you can request packages to be put into the repo;s
[01:45] <flyinghippo> Are Kubuntu-desktop and/or Ubuntu-desktop that big?
[01:45] <Smotang> Thanks!
[01:45] <docmur> whats big
[01:45] <AWOSDev> flyinghippo, ~300M each, about.
[01:45] <flyinghippo> Okay.
[01:45] <Crippy-Boy> or aleast the edgy repos
[01:45] <flyinghippo> That's good.
[01:45] <LjL> Crippy-Boy: #ubuntu-motu i think. but be considerate
[01:45] <Madpilot> Crippy-Boy, yes - #ubuntu-motu is the channel you want
[01:45] <docmur> any way so anyone know of a CUPL program for linux
[01:45] <flyinghippo> Hopefully I'll be able to get PPP working on this.
[01:45] <WinstonWolf> dbernar1 - thanks! I'll re-install Ubuntu and try that
[01:45] <johnnybezak> flyinghippo: whats cupl
[01:45] <Crippy-Boy> Thanks
[01:45] <LjL> Crippy-Boy: no, no edgy repos... you'll have to wait for edgy+1 (or at best, for the backports). edgy's frozen
[01:46] <flyinghippo> cupl?
[01:46] <AWOSDev> flyinghippo, good luck!  (seriously, I wish you good luck.)
[01:46] <docmur> it's a programming language of logic boards like GALS
[01:46] <wastrel> ubunto
[01:46] <acetech747> how does optical sound work in ubuntu?
[01:47] <dbernar1> WinstonWolf: you are welcome. ttyl
[01:47] <AWOSDev> Hello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?
[01:48] <rockz> how i add a user in admin group ?
[01:48] <acetech747> anyone know how to get sound working on this?
[01:48] <jrib> rockz: system > administration > users and groups
[01:48] <AWOSDev> rockz: Also, from the CLI, "sudo adduser username admin"
[01:49] <rockz> thanks guys
[01:51] <bulmer> Ubuntu and I are not friends..I 've been attempting to re-install on a multi-partition hd and it keeps getting stuck at 61% installing system..stuck..
[01:52] <ks1> check the cd.. ?
[01:52] <bulmer> why is this not so user friendly...grrr
[01:52] <bulmer> cd check was run and it is 100% okay
[01:53] <bulmer> isnt there like a trace of the script what it is doing when installing or some kind of log to view?
[01:53] <LjL> i don't know
[01:53] <LjL> !install > bulmer
[01:53] <logankoester> I just installed phpmyadmin via apt-get and it put it in /usr/share. Is it safe to move it to my apache root? What am I supposed to do? /usr/share seems like a strange place to put a collection of php scripts that are intended to be accessed via web browser
[01:53] <AWOSDev> bulmer, the setup log is copied to your hard disk *after* installation...
[01:53] <dbernar1> bulmer: how big is the disk, and at what point is the ubuntu being installed? I mean, is it a 200GB HD, and ubuntu starts at 120GB...
[01:54] <LjL> bulmer: perhaps try the Alternate CD anyway. you might have better luck
[01:54] <Smotang> Is this dangerous to do out of root:  Change dir ("cd DIRNAME" on console) to client/make/linux.
[01:54] <TLE> sergevn: I wont help. Please anybody correct me if i'm wrong. afaik the nvidia driver is only for graphics so that is besides the point. But, on the sound side there are twon different things ti worry about, the sound driver and the sound system, ALSE and OSS are sound systems, so applications can be written to use different soundsystems, and so if they are only written to use one of those systems it doesn't matter what sounddriver you use. Most applications t
[01:55] <bulmer> it is being installed on a multipartitioned hd (120gig) .the install starts somewhere in the hda11 16383 blocks
[01:55] <JKnife> why is vilefridge banned?
[01:55] <JKnife> is all Tor users banned?
[01:56] <LjL> JKnife: yes, i think Tor is banned here. too much abuse from it
[01:56] <AWOSDev> Yes, Tor is banned.
[01:56] <brettm> hehe....last night I was using the live cd (dapper) to repartion my hd on an older laptop. my ntfs partition wouldn't shrink so I booted windows to defrag. Half way through my harddrive crashed. Certiasnly not blaming ubuntu of course ;-)
[01:56] <JKnife> LjL: k
[01:56] <AWOSDev> we had one come in to #Kubuntu looking for GNOME help because they were banned in here one night IIRC.
[01:57] <JKnife> here people just need to get a hostmask -_-
[01:57] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know the answer to my CD question?
[01:57] <AWOSDev> JKnife, yeah I'd like that too, but I don't know how to get one.
[01:57] <AWOSDev> Do I PM an op?
[01:57] <JKnife> AWOSDev: set a email and a linked name and go talk to a freenode admin
[01:57] <LjL> you mean a cloak?
[01:57] <AWOSDev> I have an email...but a linked name?  What is a linked name?
[01:57] <JKnife> LjL: same thing
[01:58] <JKnife> like
[01:58] <ZirJoker> is there any spanish support channel?
[01:58] <LjL> !es
[01:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:58] <ZirJoker> thx
[01:58] <AWOSDev> Oh yeah....
[01:58] <LjL> AWOSDev, JKnife: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[01:59] <Madpilot> Anyone wanting a basic @unaffiliated/* Freenode hostmask/cloak can join #ubuntu-ops
[01:59] <Smotang> Is this a dangerous command to use while out of root, I am in desktop at the moment:  Change dir ("cd DIRNAME" on console) to client/make/linux.
[01:59] <SpacePuppy> AWOSDev, i'd look to see if something was holding mplayer/xine/..etc open .. or if I'd done any upgrading recently, i'd reboot as well.
[01:59] <JKnife> LjL: i have one
[01:59] <johnnybezak> Smotang: cd? hell no
[01:59] <brettm> logankoester: I believe you can serve a website from anywhere along as you configure it to read from the path...not certain why you feel this constitutes a security problem? As long as your virtual root is the phpmyadmin dir
[02:00] <gnomefreak> Smotang: you dont ever use cd as root
[02:00] <Smotang> im not in root
[02:00] <Ket009> Oi, can someone help the poor windows user with some linux stuff?
[02:00] <ivx> hey if i want to burn an iso to a disk can i just drag it over to the natulis and will is write is as files
[02:00] <johnnybezak> Ket009: yeah whast up
[02:00] <Madpilot> ivx, right-click on the ISO, choose Burn To Disc. Done.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> Smotang: you asked is it dangerous to run cd outside of root my answer is you never run it as root
[02:01] <Madpilot> Ket009, helps if you ask an actual question first, you know. ;)
[02:01] <Ket009> Um I actually dunno if this is cause of linux but a friend of mines computers (one laptop with windows and one pc with ubuntu) keep having the same IP address
[02:01] <logankoester> brettm: I guess I'm just used to web files living in /var/www where they belong, rather than scattered around the filesystem at rando
[02:01] <logankoester> random
[02:01] <johnnybezak> Smotang: but it sure as hell isn't dangerous
[02:01] <ivx> madpilot: sweet, what about if i have mp3s i want to be cda?
[02:01] <eternalswd> what program do I use to check crc32 sums?
[02:01] <^Ocean^> hmm when i run xawtv it gives me X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode  so when i run xawtv -nodga it crash's X
[02:01] <johnnybezak> Ket009: does one have a static ip, and the other getting an ip from a dhcp server?
[02:01] <Madpilot> ivx, use Serpentine to create audio CDs
[02:01] <logankoester> brettm: anyway I moved it and it seems to work fine except that it can't connect to the mysql server, so I guess it's not an issue
[02:01] <ks1> eternalswd: md5sum -c filename
[02:02] <eternalswd> thanks
[02:02] <Ket009> they both have the thign were it gives em an ip automatically
[02:02] <logankoester> brettm: But thanks for answering my question :)
[02:02] <ivx> madpilot: thanks, is that serpentine gpl?
[02:02] <brettm> logankoester: I here ya, seems strange
[02:02] <AgentCy> woo go cardinals!
[02:02] <gnomefreak> ivx: gpl or gui?
[02:02] <Madpilot> ivx, of course - it's included in Ubuntu by default
[02:02] <johnnybezak> Ket009: from your router?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> AgentCy: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:03] <Ket009> yah I guess
[02:03] <brettm> logankoester: Yeah, I assume you have configured your config.inc.php file???
[02:03] <Smotang> ok another question, when i use sh on a config file it comes up with this error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" how do i fix this?
[02:03] <Madpilot> ivx, Applications->Sound & Video->Serpentine
[02:03] <logankoester> brettm: have not touched it
[02:03] <ivx> madpilot: oh, i never noticed it on my computer. sorry silly question
[02:03] <AWOSDev> Uh, it says in the FAQ to contact a project leader.
[02:03] <AWOSDev> Whos the project leader?  Is that an op?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Smotang: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:03] <ivx> gnomefreak nevermind figured it out
[02:03] <brettm> logankoester: that will be your issue then
[02:03] <Smotang> thanks gnomefreak
[02:03] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: of what?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Smotang: yw
[02:04] <logankoester> brettm: yep I know, I've been through that part before
[02:04] <brettm> logankoester: ya know, the latest version messed me up too come to think of it
[02:04] <logankoester> oh yeah?
[02:04] <Madpilot> ivx, when you put a blank CD-R in, Ubuntu should show you a popup that asks what you want to do w/ the blank CD-R. Clicking the "Create Audio CD" button should launch Serpentine for you
[02:04] <brettm> logankoester: they chyaged the setup
[02:04] <logankoester> how?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: what FAQ?
[02:04] <con> how do we enable ident server?
[02:04] <logankoester> anything I should know about?
[02:04] <con> anyone know?
[02:04] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak, I want an Ubuntu/Kubuntu/any linux really... Cloak.
[02:04] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak, it says in the Cloak FAQ to contact a project leader.
[02:04] <ivx> madpilot, cool. ubuntu is impressive.  thank you sir
[02:04] <brettm> logankoester: I just remember it was a pain in the ass to get working for some reason
[02:04] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak, are you a project leader?
[02:04] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, @ubuntu/member/* cloaks are only available to Ubuntu Members
[02:05] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, you mean on the Wiki?
[02:05] <logankoester> brettm: uh oh...I desperately need this to take less than half an hour :(
[02:05] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: you need to be a member to have a ubuntu/k/x cloak please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode-social
[02:05] <Psy-X> hey
[02:05] <meatface> howdi
[02:05] <brettm> logankoester: I've still got 2.4.6 running
[02:05] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, no, people who have been given Membership by the CC
[02:05] <con> can someone help me
[02:05] <con> stop chatting
[02:05] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, ah okay.
[02:05] <con> how do i enable ident server
[02:05] <Psy-X> ok
[02:05] <brettm> logankoester: which version are you trying to get working?
[02:05] <logankoester> brettm: well we'll see. I'll ask if you I encounter something you might have been through
[02:05] <gnomefreak> con: when someone knows they will answer you
[02:06] <logankoester> brettm: 2.8.03-Debian1
[02:06] <AWOSDev> con: Enable as in you want to run one or your firewall is blocking it?
[02:06] <brettm> logankoester: I'm sorry I meant version of phpmyadmin
[02:06] <logankoester> brettm: that is my version of phpmyadmin
[02:06] <con> Enable as in i want to run one
[02:06] <brettm> logankoester: ah ;-)
[02:07] <Ket009> so nobody can help me with my duplicate IP problem?
[02:07] <brettm> logankoester: sorry, I use debian servers but always untarred the source from the website
[02:07] <con> AWOSDev, can you show me
[02:08] <AWOSDev> con, I asked a question up there ^^^ are you trying to run an ident server or is your firewall blocking it?
[02:08] <brettm> logankoester: so do they still have a config.inc.php file?
[02:08] <logankoester> brettm: mmh. I just need to get a development platform running on my laptop as quickly as possible, I can sort out any minor issues once I've got this project released :p
[02:08] <AWOSDev> Uh, how do I get a voice on #freenode-social?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: i think hes starting from scratch
[02:08] <logankoester> brettm: yep it's in /etc/phpmyadmin
[02:08] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: know someone :)
[02:09] <brettm> logankoester: I assume you are using ubuntu then?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: hold on a sec
[02:09] <eternalswd> ks1, md5sum is 128 bit, I need to check crc32 (32 bit)
[02:09] <brettm> logankoester: on the laptop?
[02:09] <logankoester> brettm: that's why i'm here :-p
[02:09] <logankoester> Yeah
[02:09] <logankoester> kubuntu
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> 3 nights and Ubuntu still won't install.. I hate this.. Have tried everything.. from Memory to DVD drives ect..
[02:09] <johnnybezak> Mad3Max3: what does it do?
[02:09] <brettm> logankoester: right...my question is then....why not use mysql administrator
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> does this ring a bell for someone.. hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349
[02:09] <brettm> logankoester: and query browser
[02:09] <logankoester> It was the most beautiful linux install I've ever seen on a laptop, actually. Everything working besides audio right there on first boot :)
[02:10] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, pastebin next time, please
[02:10] <AWOSDev> Mad3Max3 -- um, sounds like your CD drive is screwed up.
[02:10] <johnnybezak> logankoester: wifi too?
[02:10] <logankoester> yep even wifi
[02:10] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: send a msg to PhilKC and ask how to get a cloak (keep in mind you cant get a ubuntu(k)(x) cloak)
[02:10] <brettm> logankoester: I finally got a new DVD/CD drive from ebay last night. Tried to install ubuntu (finally) and my harddrive crashe!!! ;-)
[02:10] <logankoester> brettm: familiarity, I guess. I've always used PHPMyAdmin. Is it significantly more fun to use mysql-admin?
[02:10] <johnnybezak> logankoester: awesome :)
[02:10] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak, okay thanks :)
[02:10] <Mad3Max3> AwosDev-- U could think that but No.. have tried 5 diffrent drives,, brands and speeds
[02:10] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:11] <Ket009> oi 865 people is too many people....
[02:11] <brettm> logankoester: on remote servers, I LOVE phpmyadmin
[02:11] <brettm> logankoester: In some ways I liek it better
[02:11] <AWOSDev> Mad3Max3, hmm, your IDE controller might be on the way out then.'
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Ket009: this is nothing
[02:11] <johnnybezak> Mad3Max3: can you try a diff kernel?
[02:11] <logankoester> johnnybezak: I'm not sure about things like the IR port or fingerprint reader though, haven't had a chance to try yet
[02:11] <brettm> logankoester: but you're just an apt-get away from being able to admin your database
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:11] <LoRez> Warning: `Mad3Max3' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> sorry
[02:11] <johnnybezak> logankoester: haha yeah fair nuff
[02:12] <Mad3Max3> Sorry about the spam..
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Mad3Max3: use pastebin!
[02:12] <gnomefreak> !pastebin > Mad3Max3
[02:12] <Mad3Max3> pastebin is?
[02:12] <logankoester> brettm: I actually kinda dislike phpmyadmin, it does weird shit like use backticks innappropriately
[02:12] <gnomefreak> read your pm
[02:12] <gnomefreak> logankoester: please watch your language
[02:12] <johnnybezak> Mad3Max3: so that you dont spam the main channel
[02:12] <logankoester> brettm: But I know my way around it
[02:13] <Mad3Max3> ok!.. sorry.. wont happen again..
[02:13] <logankoester> gnomefreak: sorry, I wasn't aware this channel had a language rule. Won't happen again
[02:13] <dr`venom> hey guys, I was finally able to install ubuntu and the nvidia driver to my dimension 8300. However, I cannot seem to get a native resolution of 1440x900 for my LCD. Can any of you guys lend me a hand in this matter please.
[02:13] <dr`venom> ?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> logankoester: all #ubuntu-* channels do including k and xubuntu channels
[02:13] <Mad3Max3> someone said something about my IDE controller?
[02:14] <brettm> logankoester: in that case just do  sudo apt-get install mysql-admin
[02:14] <logankoester> brettm: yeah, already got it. I'll look around
[02:14] <logankoester> brettm: thanks for the suggestion :)
[02:14] <brettm> logankoester: in that case just do  sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser
[02:14] <brettm> ;-)
[02:15] <killown> anyone yet configured bot megahal?
[02:15] <Mad3Max3> Got the CD to boot after waiting a couple of mins .. first these error messages and then it boots. wont install thou.. hangs on some package
[02:15] <AWOSDev> Mad3Max3 yeah to my knowledge that's what would be going out.
[02:15] <brettm> logankoester: BTW I have the following line used in my conf file $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['auth_type']      = 'http';    // Authentication method (config, http or cookie based)?
[02:15] <logankoester> brettm: How important is it? It means installing gnome since I'm using kubuntu
[02:15] <AWOSDev> Was I kicked or something when Mad3Max3 spammed?
[02:15] <brettm> logankoester: ah , I'm a gnomie
[02:15] <gnomefreak> not that i saw AWOSDev
[02:15] <Mad3Max3> AWOSDev, It's a completly new motherboard.. :( that blows
[02:15] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: you never left
[02:15] <brettm> logankoester: well, it is the only way you can work with the queries really, admin doesn't do stuff liek that really
[02:15] <logankoester> brettm: is it worth it? I don't care about wasted disk space or anything
[02:16] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak, okay because my client cleared for some reason at <- Ket009 left
[02:16] <logankoester> brettm: Gotchya. mysql-admin doesn't do that?
[02:16] <brettm> logankoester: Yeah, it's worth it...
[02:16] <brettm> logankoester: right
[02:16] <logankoester> alright
[02:16] <Stormfang> gnomefreak AWOSDev brettm Searching how to change my skin of forum ???
[02:16] <Mad3Max3> saw now that lots of people has the same issues.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186115&page=2
[02:16] <brettm> logankoester: $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['host']           = 'localhost'; // MySQL hostname or IP address
[02:16] <brettm> $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['port']           = '';          // MySQL port - leave blank for default port
[02:16] <brettm> $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['socket']         = '';          // Path to the socket - leave blank for default socket
[02:16] <brettm> $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['connect_type']   = 'tcp';       // How to connect to MySQL server ('tcp' or 'socket')
[02:16] <brettm> $cfg['Servers'] [$i] ['extension']      = 'mysql';     // The php MySQL extension to use ('mysql' or 'mysqli')
[02:16] <gnomefreak> brettm: use pastebin
[02:17] <Mad3Max3> lol
[02:17] <gnomefreak> !pastebin > brettm
[02:17] <logankoester> I'll probably have to install for something sooner or later anyway
[02:17] <Stormfang> Mad3Max3 timfros1 gaudtech Searching how to change my skin of forum http://w-o-wow.sytes.net
[02:17] <dr`venom> do you guys think ill be able to fix this resolution issue?
[02:17] <brettm> gnomefreak: haven't use irc in years, thanks
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Stormfang: please talk about WOW in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <Mad3Max3> Stormfang????
[02:17] <gnomefreak> brettm: yw
[02:17] <Phlosten> Stormfang is a spammer
[02:18] <AWOSDev> gnomefreak, uh is Stormfang spamming?
[02:18] <Stormfang> gnomefreak
[02:18] <Stormfang> Im asking how change skin of forum
[02:18] <Isaacariah> installed my ATi drivers etc, and fglrxinfo STILL shows Mesa drivers being used.. how can i stop this?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: not yet but if i see the link again he will be
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Stormfang: this si not a forums help channel
[02:18] <gnomefreak> s/si/is
[02:18] <Phlosten> Stormfang: in multiple channels it is spamming
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Stormfang: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <dr`venom> issaccaria, I was having the same issues at first
[02:19] <brettm> gnomefreak: btw I assume you know you need to comment skip-networking in your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file already
[02:19] <gnomefreak> brettm: im not having issues with mysql
[02:20] <dr`venom> I just had to type in nvidia for my drivers in the xorg conf file
[02:20] <brettm> gnomefreak: right, but for tcp services instead of default unix socket (or something or the other)
[02:20] <Isaacariah> how can i find out my video card's BUS ID?
[02:20] <brettm> gnomefreak: whoops
[02:21] <brettm> gnomefreak: sorry using up arrow here ;-)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> brettm: you just relized it wasnt supposed to be me ;)
[02:21] <Smotang> what does the tar.gz format stand for?
[02:21] <Isaacariah> how can i find out my video card's BUS ID?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Smotang: its a compressed format
[02:21] <Isaacariah> Smotang, Tarball GZip
[02:21] <brettm> gnomefreak: yeah, I'd been conversing with logan...
[02:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> whats the copy and rename commands?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ISOLATEDViRuS: cp
[02:21] <Phlosten> cp and mv
[02:22] <Smotang> Yeah, but usually with file associations they are an acronym of sorts. EG .dat is usally a data file
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ISOLATEDViRuS: mv
[02:22] <brettm> logankoester: btw I assume you know you need to comment skip-networking in your /etc/mysql/my.cnf file already
[02:22] <logankoester> brettm: what's that do?
[02:22] <Isaacariah> how can i find out my video card's BUS ID?
[02:22] <Smotang> thanks isaacariah
[02:22] <brettm> logankoester: that allows apache to talk to your webserver basically
[02:23] <Pierre> Isaacariah: lspci
[02:23] <Isaacariah> thanks Pierre
[02:23] <brettm> logankoester: good luck...time to go home
[02:23] <logankoester> brettm: apache to talk to my webserver? LOL
[02:23] <logankoester> I'll assume he meant mysql
[02:24] <logankoester> but that would probably explain my problem :-D
[02:24] <Isaacariah> Pierre
[02:24] <Isaacariah> if it says
[02:24] <Isaacariah> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)
[02:24] <Isaacariah> then what would i change  BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:24] <Isaacariah> to in my xorg.conf
[02:24] <Isaacariah> 1:0:1?
[02:25] <Zer0Ry0k0> Allright, I am in need of some assistance.  I am trying to install an Ubuntu/Windows Dual Boot (seperate HDDs).  Ubuntu should be primary and Windows slave.  Windows wants me to have an 8MB Boot partition in the master drive, but it won't let me change the drive letter from C to Z (or anything)
[02:26] <TLE> Due to the large amount of problems with graphics drivers I'm trying to gather some statistics on the matter, to better help people deside what hardware to buy, and developers what things to focus on. If you've got the time, please participate in this poll, about how you experience with the official driver from ATI and NVIDIA have been, both positive and negative: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278352
[02:26] <logankoester> If I run an application with like "kate &" and the konsole I used freezes, is it safe to kill that konsole?
[02:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> also windows is really messed up for some reason.  I try to install the video card drivers and the resolution goes to minimal, without letting me increase it.  I have formatted at least once every hour all day today...
[02:27] <TLE> logankoester: yes
[02:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> but that's not important
[02:27] <logankoester> TLE: that won't kill kate right?
[02:27] <TLE> logankoester: yes
[02:27] <AWOSDev> Zer0Ry0k0, just give up on Windows?!
[02:27] <logankoester> alright, if I suddenly quit you'll know you're wrong....:p
[02:28] <TLE> logankoester: it will kill kate
[02:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> I was told that I should have a second boot of windows to play Counter Strike
[02:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> that's all I want
[02:28] <ivx> hey how do you open the natilus with root privilages
[02:28] <Zer0Ry0k0> is CS on Ubuntu
[02:28] <logankoester> TLE: too late! fortunately the only thing I had runnig from it was kopete
[02:28] <Isaacariah> if lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?
[02:28] <txoof_> the gnome resolution manager only shows 640x480 while this monitor should run up to 1024x768. /etc/X11/xorg.conf appears to have all the proper modelines but they don't show up.  Any ideas where I should start?
[02:28] <logankoester> TLE: is there a solution to that problem?
[02:28] <krazykit> Zer0Ry0k0: not gonna happen, unless you fork over for proprietary cedega, and it's still hit-and-miss.
 pick up a nautilus script to make that easy
[02:29] <logankoester> TLE: It seems kinda lame to leave frozen terminals all over the place
[02:29] <rixth> "grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though I have libc6 installed.
[02:29] <TLE> logankoester: threads in Linux are forked from where they are started, I thought you meant that Kate was crashing dreezing the terminal, my bad. But anyway it shure as he.. shouldnt freeze
[02:29] <alan_> hello, can I have a different wallpaper on each of my workspaces?
[02:29] <logankoester> TLE: Well, one did :-/
[02:29] <TLE> shouldn't *
[02:29] <Zer0Ry0k0> Okay, the way I heard it (I understand these people can be wrong) was that to make using WINE easyer, and to get CS running, I should install windows and CS on one partition, then basically WINE will run CS from the windows partition on a more stable OS
[02:30] <logankoester> TLE: Is there a better way?
[02:30] <Zer0Ry0k0> or that I at least need the DLLs from the windows installation
[02:30] <TLE> logankoester: otherwise start it from the menu. It's just wierd
[02:30] <jrib> alan_: yes, but you will need to run something extra.  It is not in the repositories, but it is a fairly easy to setup python script called 'wallpapoz'.  Feel free to ask if you need any help setting it up
[02:30] <surgy> hi
[02:30] <logankoester> :( alright
[02:30] <krazykit> Zer0Ry0k0: it's still not that easy.  d3d in wine is still too flaky
[02:30] <fbc> anyone know how to make firefox view quicktime video? I already install VLC and the mozilla plug-in but it's a no go. What else can I try?
[02:30] <surgy> where is grub.list ?
[02:30] <AWOSDev> Zer0Ry0k0, are you talking about Photoshop?
[02:30] <surgy> by defualt of course
[02:30] <Zer0Ry0k0> no, counterstike
[02:30] <logankoester> I don't like the menu, using the mouse is slow
[02:31] <krazykit> fbc: do you have w32codecs installed?
[02:31] <alan_> Well, I have been really unsucessful at setting up flash under an amd64, is it THAT bad?
[02:31] <jrib> surgy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <foureight84> is is possible to put a live cd on a compact flash and boot from it?
[02:31] <fbc> krazykit:  nope is that a package I can select?
[02:31] <txoof_> how can I adjust the resolution in X?
[02:31] <krazykit> !seveas > fbc
[02:31] <AWOSDev> ubotu, tell fbc about restricted
[02:31] <Isaacariah> if lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?
[02:32] <krazykit> fbc: add seveas' repo and install w32codecs.  then they should work fine.
[02:32] <TLE> logankoester: I think you should try and investigate because no applications should freeze the terminal if you trail it with a & but I don't know enough to help you troubleshoot it
[02:32] <AWOSDev> krazykit, fbc, personally I believe downloading it from the !restricted link I sent fbc is easier.
[02:33] <Ranbee> hi can someone show which of these will work as a session startup with wine, please?
[02:33] <krazykit> AWOSDev: yeah, but this way he can grab libdvdcss too ;-)
[02:33] <Isaacariah> if lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?
[02:33] <fbc> krazykit: I did a search for in the synatics package manager for w32codecs, but nothing came up.
[02:33] <AWOSDev> krazykit, ah true.
[02:33] <surgy> ok can anyone tell me some possibilities why opra on ubuntu is about 50% slower  than it is on windows? do i have something messed up?
[02:33] <Ranbee> wine "C:\Program Files\Proxomitron Naoko-4\Proxomitron.exe"
[02:33] <krazykit> fbc: did you add the repo and update?
[02:33] <Ranbee> or this next one -
[02:34] <Ranbee> wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program_Files/Proxomitron_Naoko-4/Proxomitron.exe
[02:34] <Isaacariah> if lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?
[02:34] <alan_> jrib: how to set up 'wallpaoz'? is there a guide?
[02:34] <fbc> krazykit: Do I do that from the command line or in the package manager?
[02:34] <krazykit> fbc: i do it from the command line.  i've never used synaptic
[02:35] <boris55> edgy rc1 out thursday?
[02:35] <jrib> alan_: the wallpopoz site has a short explanation
[02:35] <alan_> jrib: gotta go walk the dog, back in 10
[02:35] <AWOSDev> Isaacraiah, please do not repeat your question so fast.
[02:35] <Isaacariah> sorry
[02:35] <krazykit> !roadmap > boris55
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <surgy> anyone?
[02:35] <fbc> krazykit: Sojust type !seaves inthe command line?
[02:36] <alan_> jrib: wallpopoz, OK, I will check
[02:36] <krazykit> fbc: no, add seveas' repo to your sources.list, update, and install
[02:36] <Zer0Ry0k0> I was reading the CS: S install page and it made it sound completly doable.  But to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition also?
[02:36] <gpro> !jdk
[02:36] <pyramid> hi! i need a good repository comprehensive of skype and other applications (like multiverse, backports, etc). can anyone give me this file?
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <gpro> !jdk
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <bruenig> !easysource
[02:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:36] <BCMacbook> Hello, i'm trying to get an isa sound card working on  6.06lts, ive been refered to isapnp, is this the best way to go about it?
[02:36] <Isaacariah> pyramid, check out Automatrix
[02:36] <bruenig> Automatrix does not exist
[02:37] <gpro> !jsdk
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jsdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <bruenig> !msg the bot
[02:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:37] <fbc> krazykit: I'm about to ask a stupid question.Where do I find sources.list, and what program is it related to.
[02:37] <Madpilot> unfortunately, "automatix" does - it's a good way to break your Ubuntu...
[02:37] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell fbc about sources
[02:37] <Isaacariah> same thing
[02:37] <_azrael> fbc: sources.list is in /etc/apt/
[02:37] <dougsko> fbc: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:37] <Isaacariah> automatix aint broken mine
[02:37] <Isaacariah> so i dont see the problem
[02:37] <_azrael> fbc: It's related to apt-get, the package manager.
[02:37] <pyramid> Isaacariah: what's automatrix?
[02:37] <bruenig> fbc, the sources.list is at /etc/apt/sources.list, it contains the repo and is used by apt-get or synaptic which is a front end for apt-get
[02:37] <AWOSDev> krazykit, your looking for !schedule.
[02:38] <bruenig> reps*
[02:38] <bruenig> repos*
[02:38] <Madpilot> !worksforme
[02:38] <_azrael> pyramid: automatix is a program that will break your system, don't use it.
[02:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:38] <Isaacariah> pyramid, its apparently evil and dangerous
[02:38] <Isaacariah> why will it break your system?
[02:38] <dougsko> Isaacariah: you must have been lucky. automatix has broken lots of people's stuff, its crap
[02:38] <Isaacariah> howso?
[02:38] <rbil> that's bs
[02:38] <pyramid> Isaacariah: thanks for the good hint! >(
[02:38] <Isaacariah> a bad worker will always blame his tools ;)
[02:38] <_azrael> Essentially, it doesn't update the installed/uninstalled and dependency database properly.
[02:39] <dougsko> Isaacariah: its not smart enough to be _that_ automatic
[02:39] <Madpilot> Isaacariah, it uses a number of dangerous options to force apt-get to do things w/o enough user feedback...
[02:39] <_azrael> The result is that when apt tries to do things later, it fails.
[02:39] <Isaacariah> pyramid, I'm indifferent on Automatix, Its worked fine for me, but a lot of people say its broken their system and stuff
[02:39] <bruenig> automatix likely does not break the majority of the time, else it would not be used at all. It would get such negative feedback and commentary that it would not work. But it obviously doesn't work sometimes so I guess it is risk-reward thing
[02:39] <Isaacariah> _azrael, I actually had a problem like that with it
[02:39] <pyramid> _azrael: could you put in the past bin a good and secure sources.list? i need a good repo
[02:39] <jester45> doesanyone know where to find a full list of desktops that ubuntu has
[02:39] <Madpilot> Isaacariah, yet you still recommend the thing? Wow.
[02:39] <Isaacariah> haha
[02:40] <Isaacariah> well it wasnt a problem with automatix as such
[02:40] <dougsko> automatix is simply unnecessary, its easy enough to do the things it does yourself without having things break
[02:40] <Isaacariah> it was my router resolving everything to 1.0.0.0, and apt-get going tits-up because of it
[02:40] <bruenig> dougsko, gui is unnecessary also
[02:40] <rixth> "grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though I have libc6 installed.
[02:40] <AWOSDev> !language
[02:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> I was reading the CS: S install page and it made it sound completly doable.  But to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition also?  I would prefer to not have windows atm because it's giving me so much trouble getting the videocard working
[02:40] <dougsko> bruenig: well the gui really doesnt have anything to do with it. gui's are nice sometimes
[02:41] <jester45> does anyone have a link to all the desktop enviroment that ubuntu supoorts
[02:41] <bruenig> dougsko, but they aren't necessary, you can get what you want done without a gui
[02:41] <dougsko> bruenig: truth
[02:41] <gnomefreak> pcant look at pictures without gui
[02:41] <jester45> i tried !desktop but there isnt that much there
[02:41] <gnomefreak> -p
[02:41] <pyramid> can anyone give me a good, complete and secure sources.list?
[02:41] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know how to fix my CD problem?
[02:41] <RMorris84> im trying to share files with my computer with a roomates of mine who has xp, and when he tries to access my computer on the share, its asking for a password, where do i find that at?
[02:41] <bruenig> pyramid follow the following ubotu post
[02:41] <gnomefreak> jester45: there are many of them
[02:41] <rixth> !ASK
[02:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:41] <bruenig> !easysource
[02:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:41] <bruenig> rixth, screwed that one
[02:41] <SpaceFrog> I have Flash7 for Firefox on my computer, but the sound is never in sync when I watch video (Youtube, mainly)... Does anyone else experience this same problem?
[02:42] <jester45> gnomefreak: do you know of a list
[02:42] <Isaacariah> if lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?
[02:42] <bruenig> SpaceFrog, yeah, no solution works that I have tried
[02:42] <jester45> gnomefreak: i would only like to use apt-get
[02:42] <gnomefreak> SpaceFrog: alot of people do its a known flash bug and will be fixed in flash 9
[02:42] <RMorris84> and also when im trying to access his its not showing up anything says : the folder contents could not be displayed, couldnt display "windows network: sony-vaio"
[02:42] <AWOSDev> SpaceFrog, Yes!
[02:42] <Shadow_mil> why am I getting like a download speed of like 20 KPs?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> jester45: there are 3 -desktop meta packages but there are other desktop eviornments you can get
[02:42] <Smotang> hey do i just use apt-get install to install all these: "SDL", "SDL_mixer" and "SDL_image"?
[02:42] <Shadow_mil> For the online repos
[02:42] <gl0be> What is a GTK+ Engine?
[02:43] <SpaceFrog> okay guys, thanks :)
[02:43] <bruenig> Shadow_mil, use a mirror
[02:43] <gnomefreak> jester45: fluxbix blackbox openonbox xfce kde gnome enlightenment and many others
[02:43] <jester45> gnomefreak: i know but !desktop says there are "others"
[02:43] <gnomefreak> fluxbox even
[02:43] <gnomefreak> jester45: only 3 meta packages though
[02:43] <jester45> !desktop
[02:43] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[02:43] <cheesy> is ist hard to get a 3d desktop(xgl) in ubuntu?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <AWOSDev> How often is the 'correct' length of time to repeat a question?
[02:44] <dougsko> cheesy: theres a 3d desktop package
[02:44] <jester45> icdwm is a meta i think
[02:44] <Madpilot> cheesy, that depends - but try #ubuntu-xgl for XGL questions
[02:44] <gnomefreak> cheesy: ask in #ubuntu-xgl they make it sound simple sometimes
[02:44] <Smotang> do I just use apt-get install to install all these: "SDL", "SDL_mixer" and "SDL_image"?
[02:44] <cheesy> ah thx
[02:44] <gnomefreak> jester45: no it just grabs the DE
[02:44] <cheesy> ppl are nice in here ;)
[02:44] <gl0be> AWOSDev: I was wondering the same thing
[02:44] <Smotang> they are SDL librarys
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Smotang: i would think SDl will install the other 2 but might be wrong
[02:45] <Smotang> thanks gnomefreak
[02:45] <jester45> gnomfreak: whats the diffrence
[02:45] <_BC_> Hello, i'm trying to get an isa sound card working on  6.06lts, ive been refered to isapnp, is this the best way to go about it?
[02:45] <aaron_> i have an sis7012 onboard sound card on my laptop, but i am getting no sound, ALSA recognises it though
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Smotang: yq you will know if it does
[02:45] <Smotang> gnomefreak: shouuld i use sude before apt get for them?
[02:45] <Smotang> *sudo
[02:45] <Isaacariah> if lspci returns "0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 ?? [Radeon 9550]  (Secondary)", then what would I change " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in my xorg.conf?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> jester45: ubuntus meta packages for DE's install everything including most used apps its a complete DE
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Smotang: yes
[02:45] <jester45> Smotang: yes use sudo
[02:46] <Smotang> thanks
[02:46] <gl0be> Can somebody tell me What a GTK+ Engine is?
[02:46] <bruenig> !gtk
[02:46] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[02:46] <jester45> gnomefreak: o thanks
[02:46] <bruenig> shouldn't it be called gimptk, since gimp is itself an acronym?
[02:46] <cheesy> can some1 tell me his opinion..why should i choose ubuntu over mandriva? (i think i will do..)
[02:47] <gl0be> bruenig: so then what is a GTK+ Engine?
[02:47] <rixth> !aolbonics
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aolbonics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <bruenig> better support cheesy
[02:47] <cheesy> kk
[02:47] <Isaacariah> cheesy, Cause we're not french
[02:47] <Isaacariah> and yeah, better support
[02:47] <cheesy> like more than 8times the ppl in the chan ;)
[02:47] <bruenig> go check out the mandriva room, whopping 103 in there
 all the xorg.conf examples I see for ATI cards, leave the PCI as you stated. Why do you think it needs to be changed?
[02:47] <txoof_> how can I adjust the resolution in X?  I've attempted to use the gnome resolution tool, but I can't change the resolution from 640x480.  Where's a good place to start?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[02:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:48] <dougsko> cheesy: debian's package management system is nicer
[02:48] <gnomefreak> txoof_: ^^ read that
[02:48] <_BC_> Ok, ill try a different question, my burner is recognized, ubuntu goes through the image creation step when i  try to burn a cd through a burn folder, as soon as it goes to write, it end real quick and reports the cd is complete. cd doesn't burn and is just blank.. any ideas?
[02:48] <cheesy> ok i will delete mandriva
[02:48] <Isaacariah> rbil, because no matter what I do to try and get my ATi card working, it still comes up as that mesa thingy in fglrxinfo
[02:48] <cheesy> ubuntu will be my love ;)
[02:48] <Zer0Ry0k0> So to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition with CS also?  I would prefer to not have windows atm because it's giving me so much trouble getting the videocard working...
[02:48] <rbil> well then maybe that's the question to ask? sorry, I have no direct experience with ATI cards and xorg
[02:49] <Isaacariah> fair enough
[02:49] <AWOSDev> chessy, Yay!
[02:49] <cheesy> :)
[02:49] <mister_roboto> anyone have any recommendations among XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM for low memory, poor video machines? what's the lightest?
[02:49] <krazykit> Isaacariah:         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:49] <bruenig> cheesy, or I suppose you could interpret it to mean that ubuntu is so bad, it has 8x as many people who are having troubles with it.
[02:49] <dougsko> mister_roboto: fluxbox is awesome
[02:49] <krazykit> Isaacariah: i think that's what you need.
[02:49] <mikm[laptop] > I'm a fan of Fluxbox myself for low-em systems
[02:49] <BenMcLean> Hello!
[02:49] <Isaacariah> krazykit, thats what I have at the moment
[02:50] <jrib> mikm[laptop] : I like flux
[02:50] <cheesy> bruenig: :D
[02:50] <BenMcLean> Anybody know anything about getting linux on an iBook G3?
[02:50] <jrib> mister_roboto: I like flux too
[02:50] <mister_roboto> thanks guys :)
[02:50] <AWOSDev> Hello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?
[02:50] <BenMcLean> I have never used linux before and I wanna check it out! :)
[02:50] <krazykit> Isaacariah: do you have a "Section "DRI" with Mode 0666?
[02:50] <AWOSDev> BenMcLean it will work.
[02:50] <cheesy> format c:
[02:50] <Isaacariah> krazykit, Yes.
[02:50] <BenMcLean> will it be fast though?
[02:51] <cheesy> cu cu
[02:51] <BenMcLean> and how fast?
[02:51] <AWOSDev> BenMcLean, no clue
[02:51] <aaron_> can anybody help me, i have a laptop with onboard sis 7012, which i cannot get any sound out of (even though its recognised in the Alsa mixer)
[02:51] <BenMcLean> And will it be able to read large NFTS external hard drives?
[02:51] <BenMcLean> see I've always been a MicroBorg ... i mean soft ... Microsoft Drone (tm)
[02:52] <_BC_> ... this sucks :(
[02:52] <hobbesmaster> BenMcLean: then why do you have an ibook g3?
[02:52] <blackgraz> ok
[02:52] <BenMcLean> reason #1: I want to familiarize myself with systems other than Windows / IBM
[02:52] <BenMcLean> reason #2: it was only 20 bucks!! :)
[02:53] <BenMcLean> is xubuntu faster?
[02:53] <Zer0Ry0k0> So to clarify, if I am able to get CounterStrike running on Ubuntu, does it require (or make it easyer) to have a windows partition with CS also?  I would prefer to not have windows atm because it's giving me so much trouble getting the videocard working...
[02:53] <fbc> krazykit: I got the w32codecs installed however one of the websites said that totem-xine firefox plugin was the way to go.
[02:53] <krazykit> BenMcLean: with low memory, yes.
[02:54] <BenMcLean> i'll prolly wanna go with xubuntu then
[02:54] <krazykit> fbc: meh.  mplayerplug-in is my preference.  it doesn't really matter much.
[02:54] <_BC_> anyone have experience with isapnp?
[02:54] <BenMcLean> will xubuntu install in Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 so i can play with it before trying it on the laptop ?
[02:54] <granbar> Hey there. IVTV won't find my firmware files. Does anybody know where I should put the IVTV firmware files?
[02:54] <Zer0Ry0k0> Does anyone here use computers to play Computer Games?
[02:54] <granbar> Zer0Ry0k0: Yes.
[02:55] <krazykit> Zer0Ry0k0: i use pen and paper to play computer games.
[02:55] <hobbesmaster> Zer0Ry0k0: CS or CSS?
[02:55] <granbar> Zer0Ry0k0: Take a look at happypenguin.org
[02:55] <Zer0Ry0k0> that's all I want to do, on a stable system
[02:55] <Zer0Ry0k0> thanks
[02:55] <Zer0Ry0k0> source
[02:55] <granbar> krazykit: That must be hard
[02:55] <hobbesmaster> do you have an nvidia or ati graphics card?
[02:55] <Zer0Ry0k0> nvidia
[02:55] <Zer0Ry0k0> and an old ATI
[02:55] <Isaacariah> well this is screwed
[02:55] <krazykit> granbar: yeah, but there's a lot less idiot-speak.
[02:55] <Megaqwerty> is there a specific channel for audio, or should I ask my question here?
[02:55] <BenMcLean> most peoples recommend windows for games
[02:55] <Isaacariah> would uninstalling the mesa thing work?
[02:55] <_BC_> alright thanks anyway folks.. i think ill try mandriva
[02:55] <granbar> krazykit: Do you have a TV-Card configured on your system?
[02:56] <krazykit> Isaacariah: no!
[02:56] <Isaacariah> ok ok
[02:56] <BenMcLean> its about all windows is really good for if I am to believe what I am told
[02:56] <Isaacariah> i wont do that then heh
[02:56] <krazykit> granbar: nope.
[02:56] <hobbesmaster> Zer0Ry0k0: nvidia has better support, especially under wine/codeweaver/cedega, which is what you'd need to run it under
[02:56] <Zer0Ry0k0> good
[02:56] <Zer0Ry0k0> =)
[02:56] <granbar> krazykit: Ok. Would you know where firmware files are to be placed?
[02:56] <Isaacariah> krazykit, I've been trying all day to get it to work, nothing seems to do the trick
[02:56] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to convert .m4a to .mp3?
[02:56] <krazykit> granbar: of course not.  i don't have one.
[02:56] <hobbesmaster> Zer0Ry0k0: each of the mentioned apps (wine is the only free one) plug their playability of the source engine games
[02:56] <krazykit> Isaacariah: yeah.  this is an old ati card, right?
[02:57] <Isaacariah> ATi Radeon 9550
[02:57] <bruenig> !info gnormalize
[02:57] <ubotu> Package gnormalize does not exist in any distro I know
[02:57] <granbar> krazykit: Okay. Thanks though
[02:57] <slop> which package is the one that gives you the ability to play mp3's from the console using the command 'play'?
[02:57] <krazykit> Isaacariah: i'd swear the OSS drivers supported 9600 and down with 3d... but maybe they're in xorg 7.1 :-/
[02:57] <DarthVineman> Anyone here?
[02:57] <AWOSDev> DarthVineman, well there's me :)
[02:58] <DarthVineman> Alrighty
[02:58] <Isaacariah> krazykit, how do i find out what version of xorg I have?
[02:58] <krazykit> Isaacariah: you have 7.0 if you're on dapper.
[02:58] <DarthVineman> How would I set up a dual boot between this (ubuntu) HDD and my windows HDD?
[02:58] <Isaacariah> yeah I am.. easy to upgrade?
[02:58] <krazykit> Isaacariah: lemme upload my xorg.conf so you can look at it.  i have fglrx going.
[02:58] <krazykit> Isaacariah: no.
[02:58] <Isaacariah> cheers
[02:58] <Isaacariah> krazykit, what card you using? and you on 7.0/
[02:59] <krazykit> Isaacariah: x300se on 7.0
[02:59] <Isaacariah> and it works fine?
[02:59] <krazykit> yeah.
[02:59] <AWOSDev> DarthVineman, um, well...install Ubuntu last.
[02:59] <Isaacariah> weird
[02:59] <Isaacariah> I know the x series is a lot later than the 9550, but the 9550 is hardly an old card
[02:59] <DarthVineman> Ive got Ubuntu on one HDD and windows on a seperate
[02:59] <RMorris84> im trying to get my network setup and im having trouble, i installed samba, and i can see the other computers but when i try to access my files from an xp machine its asking me for a password, where do i find the password or turn it off
[02:59] <DarthVineman> Im trying to have it so on boot my bios will let me decide which to boot into
[03:00] <Zer0Ry0k0> Darth, you need to install windows first and ubuntu last, windows is dumb and dosen't look, ubuntu is nice and looks for windows
[03:00] <DarthVineman> Ive got Ubuntu on one HDD and windows on a seperate HDD
[03:00] <dr`venom> hey guys I sort of got the resolution working, just missing one piece of the puzzle. When I log into ubuntu my resolution gets all wacked, so I have to reset the resolution to 1440x900
[03:00] <krazykit> Isaacariah: http://thephlogiston.com/misc/xorg.conf
[03:00] <BenMcLean> Hey ... could I get the thing to run any emulators for like, DOS 6.2 ?
[03:00] <BenMcLean> xubutu I mean
[03:00] <DarthVineman> Im not doing partitions
[03:00] <dr`venom> anyone know how I can fix that
[03:00] <DarthVineman> Ive got seperate HDD's
[03:00] <krazykit> BenMcLean: dosbox?  i /think/ it works on ppc
[03:00] <Zer0Ry0k0> same with seperate HDDs
[03:01] <Zer0Ry0k0> windows is dumb
[03:01] <DarthVineman> Ok
[03:01] <BenMcLean> yeah
[03:01] <BenMcLean> windows is pretty crappy
[03:01] <DarthVineman> So would I start up windows and then plug in my ubuntu HDD?
[03:01] <BenMcLean> but um, DOS 6.2 was actually quite good in my opinion
[03:01] <gnomefreak> guy leets keep windows topics out of this channel please
[03:01] <DarthVineman> ...
[03:02] <Zer0Ry0k0> I don't know if you can save the ubuntu install, easyest thing (only thing I know if really) is to reinstall ubuntu
[03:02] <dr`venom> yea, someone please help me with ubuntu
[03:02] <DarthVineman> Im trying to figure out dual booting, stfu
[03:02] <BenMcLean> yeah
[03:02] <rbil>  man smbpasswd
[03:02] <Isaacariah> krazykit, it all looks the same
[03:02] <BenMcLean> and I'm trying to figure out whether any ubuntus will read NFTS drives and whether its safe to plugin my external hard drive to a xubuntu laptop
[03:02] <gnomefreak> DarthVineman: watch your language and i hate this or that is not helping you
[03:02] <sjbrown> when i telnet to 127.0.0.1 on port 80, i get the listing of /var/www/  when i lynx -dump it shows me some other server's page
[03:03] <sjbrown> is it my proxy server?
[03:03] <AWOSDev> Uhoh, someone ticked off gnomefreak :P
[03:03] <dr`venom> I think the install cd will due the dual booting automatically no?
[03:03] <sjbrown> is lynx not picking it up from my environment?
[03:03] <Zer0Ry0k0> Darth all you NEED to do is have Windows installed before installing Ubuntu
[03:03] <krazykit> Isaacariah: strange.  you have fglrx installed through apt and everything?
[03:03] <Isaacariah> yeah its all there
[03:03] <krazykit> Isaacariah: module loaded?  check lsmod|grep fglrx
[03:04] <BenMcLean> oh crap
 maybe this will help you ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283
[03:04] <BenMcLean> which one of these should I download? http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1
[03:04] <Isaacariah> fglrx                 388908  0
[03:04] <Isaacariah> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,sis_agp
[03:05] <AWOSDev> can somebody please help me with my CD problem?
[03:05] <AWOSDev> I would *really* appreciate it.
[03:05] <krazykit> Isaacariah: ok, so fglrx is there.  this is gonna be a brief hack and not the most secure thing, but... you could sudo chmod 777 /dev/dri/card0 and restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace, just to be absolutely sure it's not a permissions problem
[03:05] <david_> I am having trouble connecting to non-private networks with my wireless card
[03:06] <AWOSDev> Okay an incentive: first person to fix my CD problem gets op status on my new channel.
[03:06] <Isaacariah> krazykit, ill try that now, hold on
[03:06] <BenMcLean> um, people, I'm going to #xubuntu if anyone wants to talk to me thanks :)
[03:06] <gandolfthewizard> hi all
[03:07] <gandolfthewizard> have a quick quetion
[03:07] <david_> I am having trouble connecting to non-private networks with my wireless card, It's an AWLH3025
[03:07] <david_> it uses the Texas instruments chipset
[03:07] <rbil> we're all waiting with baited breathe
[03:07] <Isaacariah> righty, one sec
[03:07] <gandolfthewizard> what is the best text editor to do html coding on linux ubuntu
[03:08] <Isaacariah> krazykit, still no luck
[03:08] <rbil> joe
[03:08] <AWOSDev> gandolfthewizard, I pick Kate.
[03:08] <Isaacariah> how do i reverse that chmod buisness i just did
[03:08] <AWOSDev> sorry
[03:08] <gandolfthewizard> kate were do i get it from
[03:08] <AWOSDev> Kdevelop, *not* Kate.
[03:08] <_aasics_> gandolfthewizard, do you want something like DreamWeaver or just something with syntax highlighting
[03:08] <PumpkinPie> Hello
[03:08] <gnomefreak> gandolfthewizard: there is no best but nvu bluefish are a few
[03:08] <krazykit> Isaacariah: chmod 666, like in xorg.conf
[03:08] <PumpkinPie> Im trying mkfs -m 1 -t ext3 /dev/sdb1  to lower my reserve blocks to 1% but that doesn't work. How do I do it?
[03:08] <AWOSDev> gandolfthewizard, sorry it's Kdevelop not kate, and you can get it in both synaptic and apt-get.
[03:08] <Smotan1> How to search the packages that are available through apt-get ?
[03:08] <gandolfthewizard> syntax highlighting its for school i can get dreamweaver but can't use it for school
[03:09] <AWOSDev> Smotan1, apt-cache search whatver.
[03:09] <Smotan1> thanks
[03:09] <_aasics_> Smotan1, apt-cache search <descriptor, name>
[03:09] <krazykit> Isaacariah: and at this point, i really don't have any other ideas.  try running through !ati again and googling around some.  i need to get back to homework
[03:09] <AWOSDev> gandolfthewizard, syntax highlighting use Kdevelop, on the CLI it would be       sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[03:09] <Isaacariah> krazykit, well cheers for the help anyhow
[03:09] <AWOSDev> gandolfthewizard, supports CSS, HTML, JavaScript, PHP, and any combination of the four on one page.
[03:10] <Isaacariah> im gunna read that webpage someone just posted for me to check out, ill do that tomorrow, im going to bed
[03:10] <Isaacariah> ciao
[03:10] <AWOSDev> gandolfthewizard, as well as Perl, Python, Ruby, CGI and others that you aren't interested in :P
[03:10] <krazykit> Isaacariah: good luck!
[03:10] <Isaacariah> cheers
[03:10] <Mad3Max3> looks like Dapper has serious problems.. the forum thread just goes on and on with ppl with that problem.. all sorts of wacky workaround and ect...
[03:10] <gnomefreak> AWOSDev: most of the big html editors have syntax highlighting for html if it doesnt there is a package tyou can install for it iirc
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Mad3Max3: dapper has very few problems
[03:11] <gandolfthewizard> is it universal and read on windows text editor?
[03:12] <Mad3Max3> gnomefreak : The statistics says diffrent
[03:12] <totall_6_7> Mad3Max3: i have had no problems with dapper
[03:12] <gnomefreak> gandolfthewizard: you can read any saved html file on any system
[03:12] <gandolfthewizard> ok
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Mad3Max3: what has problems in dapper
[03:12] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: I have had zero problems with Dapper
[03:12] <Manyfold> i have a problem with logging in it takes for ever also when installing software i get the error warning: error occured during execution of /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update
[03:12] <PumpkinPie> how do I create a file system with custom reserved blocks?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> PumpkinPie: gparted?
[03:13] <gandolfthewizard> well i just wanted to make sure because for some reason my visio 2003 did not work with my professors this week so i had to redo it
[03:13] <ianmacgregor> This is actually the best distro I have ever used.. and I have used around 20 different distros.
[03:13] <rbil> yeh, please tell me about the probs with Dapper, as I must be missing them.
[03:13] <Mad3Max3> I has to do with hardware and such.. it has to do with the installer and liveCD not working.. stalls at mounting root file system
[03:13] <gnomefreak> gandolfthewizard: html files will have a .html ot a .hml or something like that
[03:14] <PumpkinPie> gnomefreak: I dont have gparted? how do I do it with mkfs?
[03:14] <Mad3Max3> breezy works but not dapper
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Mad3Max3: hardware is not a problem with dapper most of the time
[03:14] <krazykit> rbil: there's a bug with intel drivers in xorg7.0 that the video using XV-out causes washed-out video, due to a broken gamma setting :-P among others
[03:14] <Manyfold> can someone help me?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> PumpkinPie: man mkfs   its been a very long time since i did it that way
[03:14] <Zer0Ry0k0> !ask
[03:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:14] <bluefox83> will ubuntu allow you to mount a partition without using sudo?
[03:14] <Mad3Max3> Atlest Im happy Im not the only one with the problem!
[03:14] <gnomefreak> bluefox83: most of time no
[03:15] <smotang> Using Gaim is there any way to reconnect automatically to a channel once you have been D/C?
[03:15] <rbil> what is your prob other than "hardware and such"?
[03:15] <bluefox83> gnomefreak, i need to get ubuntu to mount my second partition with permissions that will allow my media player to use it
[03:15] <shasbot> i just installed the edgy beta, and synaptic is recommending a dist-upgrade, do i want to do that, or would it put it back to 6.06?
[03:15] <Mad3Max3> rbil, that the liveCD won't boot.. and meaning that I can't install dapper
[03:16] <gnomefreak> shasbot: dist-upgrade will upgrade you not downgrade you
[03:16] <gnomefreak> shasbot: edgy in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:16] <shasbot> thanks, and i will ask there next time
[03:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> MAD3MAX,  do you have your CD drive boot before your HDD in your BIOS?
[03:16] <mighty_falcon> can someone help me with kde, how do you turn off the animation when you move your mouse over the minimzed windows?
[03:17] <rbil> what type of machine are you trying to boot it on?
[03:17] <ArrenLex> mightyfalcon: what animation is this?
[03:17] <Mad3Max3> Zer0Ry0k0, well.. I wouldn't get as far as "Mounting root file system" if I hadn't put that I should boot from CD
[03:17] <Mad3Max3> it*
[03:17] <richie> Hello does anybody know how I can change the format of a harddrive without losing any of the files contained in it?
[03:18] <mighty_falcon> when you move your mouse over the minimzed windows instead of just a normal tootip it has a small animation with a fade ArrenLex
[03:18] <Zer0Ry0k0> k, just checking, I only read your lasty post
[03:18] <ivx> can anyone recomend sources to get the w32 codecs from
[03:18] <krazykit> richie: not really.  ext2 -> ext3 is about it, really.
[03:18] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[03:18] <krazykit> !seveas > ivx
[03:18] <richie> krazykit: not know how to go from NTFS to ext3?
[03:18] <krazykit> richie: no, you can't do that.
[03:19] <johnny_> i am having a problem with sudo killall gnome-panel to refresh the gnome panel... when i refresh the gnome panel it kicks me out of desktop and into login panel why si this happening?
[03:19] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: any idead
[03:19] <mighty_falcon> ideas*
[03:19] <richie> krazykit: well it's possible to do it in Windows using partitionmagic, I was just wondering if it was possible in linux
[03:19] <narg> What option would you use to have apt install the recommended packages automatically?
[03:19] <Mad3Max3> got a new bug now.. "BUG : Soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" ??
[03:19] <krazykit> richie: err, no, it's not possible to NON-DESTRUCTIVELY change from ntfs to ext3.
[03:20] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: I always do it at startup when I set up my desktop with kpersonalizer. How to do it without kpersonalizer, I have no idea, but I'm looking.
[03:20] <PumpkinPie> im already using ext5
[03:20] <PumpkinPie> you're slow
[03:20] <krazykit> PumpkinPie: doubt it.  ext4 was just released for testing :-P
[03:20] <rbil> Mad3Max3: you're using dual core then?
[03:20] <ArrenLex> xDD There is no ext5.
[03:20] <PumpkinPie> there is ext5
[03:20] <totall_6_7> richie: IF you format from ntfs to ext3 you will loose all of your info on the drive, if (according to what was said here) you go from ext2 to ext3 you will not loose your info
[03:20] <narg> PumpkinPie: pft, I must be behind the times, I'm using extSqrt(2)
[03:20] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: ok tnx, i installed berryl and it makes the fade lag a sec or two behind
[03:20] <LockDog> How do i associate ed2k files from sites with amule?!
[03:20] <PumpkinPie> Im using fedora 15.2
[03:21] <PumpkinPie> bleeding edge
[03:21] <LockDog> re
[03:21] <lw> hi
[03:21] <richie> totall_6_7: no way to keep my files? I have ALOT of files on my harddrive, but I don't want it to be read only, I'm having no luck, i've experimented, NTFS-3g and the like, but none are successful
[03:21] <johnny_> would anybody know when i sudo killall gnome-panel it kicks me out my desktop and into login menu?
[03:21] <Mad3Max3> rbil, no! lol
[03:21] <krazykit> richie: you could buy an external hard drive and back it up that way.  or a bunch of CDs/DVDs
[03:21] <totall_6_7> richie: back them up, and reformat
[03:21] <lw> i cannot log into system using another account, anyone can help?
[03:21] <ianmacgregor> johnny_: Why would you need sudo for killall gnome-panel?
[03:22] <rbil> I've heard of softlock probs with Python with dual core
[03:22] <richie> can't afford to do things like that, which is why i'm using linux in the first place heh
[03:22] <johnny_> well after install of some apps it is needed
[03:22] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: right-click on Kicker and go to Configure Panel. Go to the appearance section. Uncheck "enable icon mouseover effects".
[03:22] <boris55> anyone want to recommend some good wiki software?
[03:22] <johnny_> correct? thats what the tutorials say after install of some apps
[03:22] <krazykit> richie: err, how much data are we talking about here?
[03:22] <RogerRabb> boris55 such as wikimedia?
[03:23] <richie> 13,000 files averaging at about 7MB each
[03:23] <krazykit> boris55: mediawiki
[03:23] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: kicker?
[03:23] <lw>  i cannot log into system using another account, anyone can help me??
[03:23] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: the kde panel.
[03:23] <ArrenLex> !kicker
[03:23] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1855 kB, installed size 5576 kB
[03:23] <vanhtu1987> Hi, has anyone got an idea of how to setup gpm for a three-button mouse (2 normal ones and a scrolling wheel) ?.
[03:23] <ianmacgregor> boris55: And if you don't want to mess with mySQL, there's PmWiki
[03:23] <GhostFreeman> How do I install additional mouse cursors?
[03:23] <totall_6_7> richie: how much (in total size) do you have on your ntfs drive
[03:23] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: ok, where do you want me to look under appearence
[03:23] <LockDog> !kicker
[03:23] <richie> wait, let me just remount in read-only
[03:23] <LockDog> ;)
[03:24] <ArrenLex> It's at the very top, mighty_falcon. The very first checkbox.
[03:24] <Sherdog> I just saw the server "version" of ubuntu with lamp. My goal for a machine is bitttorrent/ftp no gui, and Im pretty new to linux. Would this be pretty much out of the box?
[03:24] <krazykit> Sherdog: kinda.  ftp will take a little setup, and headless bittorrent a little more.
[03:24] <richie> totall_6_7: 139gigs, but i don't need to keep all that
[03:24] <krazykit> but it's doable for a newbie.  there are good guides around
[03:24] <boris55> ianmacgregor: I don't mind databases.  I'll check it out.
[03:24] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: got it! thank you very much
[03:24] <_aasics_> Sherdog, FTP is basically a one liner for apt-get; and editing a couple lines in a text file
[03:25] <RogerRabb> a bit torrent tracker or downloader Sherdog?
[03:25] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: you're welcome! Enjoy beryl :)
[03:25] <krazykit> richie: then it'd be better to get ntfs-3g working if you can't back that stuff up
[03:25] <GhostFreeman> How do I install additional mouse cursors properly?
[03:25] <MotorCitymadMan> hello: cant mount usb memory stick. I've been all over the net for selfhelp. need help mounting this usb
[03:25] <richie> krazykit: experienced in ntfs-3g?
[03:25] <Sherdog> ty both.. And is this ftp relativly secure? I come from gene6 ftp on windoze..
[03:25] <richie> krazykit: it's being a fag and won't mount, even after ntfsfix
[03:25] <krazykit> richie: no.  i haven't had an ntfs drive for almost 2 years.
[03:25] <krazykit> !language > richie
[03:25] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: something strange happened once i installed baryl, i cannot seem to be able to have more then 1 dektop even when i configure the amount of desktops
[03:25] <ivx> krazykit when i try to use those sources and update it says deb [WWW]  http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
[03:25] <ivx> deb-src [WWW]  http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
[03:26] <vanhtu1987> MotorCitymadMan: Does anything happen when you plug the USB stick in ?
[03:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> allright, I just got another semi-idea
[03:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> ...
[03:26] <ArrenLex> mighty: I don't run beryl and I don't use more than one desktop so I can't help you there, sorry.
[03:26] <richie> krazykit: heh, sorry, didn't realise what i said was such a strong cuss word
[03:26] <ivx> krazy kit pasted wrong thing
[03:26] <krazykit> richie: no, it's just offensive.
[03:26] <vanhtu1987> MotorCitymadMan: Ubuntu should support most USBs out of the box.
[03:26] <ArrenLex> mighty: how about asking in #ubuntu-xgl?
[03:26] <krazykit> ivx: wait, don't paste again
[03:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> could I install windows on my other HDD with the Ubuntu one unplugged, then install ubuntu after plugging it back in and... have it all be happy?
[03:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> windows being secondary (slave)
[03:27] <ivx> krazykit it is only 2 lines. is that 2 much
[03:27] <krazykit> ivx: http://thephlogiston.com/misc/sources.list   format the seveas part like in mine.  find the #comment about seveas
[03:27] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: excellent, tnx for the tip again :P
[03:27] <Skarr> Hey guys, what is a network port?
[03:27] <ArrenLex> ivx: convention on IRC is that pastebin is for anything over two lines.
[03:28] <Skarr> *modem potr
[03:28] <MotorCitymadMan> vanhtu1987@: yes, kde daemon jumps up and then i click ok, then nothing
[03:28] <[1] BigBadHoss> under ubuntu, how do i get tftpd workking
[03:28] <[1] BigBadHoss> this is 6.06 LTS server
[03:28] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to convert .m4p so I can play it in linux?
[03:28] <[1] BigBadHoss> lol
[03:28] <_aasics_> Skarr, it is where different applications listen
[03:28] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: did you download it from itunes?
[03:28] <_aasics_> Skarr, modem port?
[03:28] <[1] BigBadHoss> m4p is protected
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> krazykit: yeah
[03:29] <Skarr> How do I know which one is mine? It's where the phone line is connected, correct?
[03:29] <_aasics_> Skarr, sorry, ignore that last message.  Modem port is 56k
[03:29] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: then you can't.
[03:29] <rdouglas> hey all WZUP?
[03:29] <_aasics_> Skarr, yes
[03:29] <Zer0Ry0k0> could I install windows (slave) on my other HDD with the Ubuntu one unplugged, then install ubuntu (master) after plugging it back in and... have it all be happy?  I'm hoping that will eliminate the boot partition.
[03:29] <[1] BigBadHoss> anybody know about tftpd?
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> krazykit: why would it matter if I got it from itunes?
[03:29] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: those files are protected. You can't legally convert it to anything you can listen to -- it's against DMCA. If you live somewhere DMCA doesn't apply, check out QTFairUse.
[03:29] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: and you've just learned why DRM is bad.  iTunes stuff is protected.
[03:29] <elvis> hello,i 'm new here, i 've no idea  how to perform a http download in cli mode,any information about it would be appreciated
[03:29] <Skarr> _aas| It cant auto detect it, and I tryed all the default ones, but none worked right.
[03:29] <[1] BigBadHoss> wget <link>
[03:29] <krazykit> elvis: wget http://shens
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> krazykit: dang that stinks
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> they should get some kinda itunes for linux
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> yeah they should
[03:30] <rdouglas> True
[03:30] <elvis> : )  thank u very much
[03:30] <[1] BigBadHoss> you can run it in wine
[03:30] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: you could try it in WINE, but it's not guaranteed to work right.  it might though.
[03:30] <mighty_falcon> to achieve the whole transperent feel in the taskbar of kde (something like the taskbar in OSX) does that jsut depend on the theme or?
[03:30] <[1] BigBadHoss> dont use 7
[03:30] <[1] BigBadHoss> try to get an older version
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> [1] BigBadHoss: you think oh, I was just gonna ask that
[03:30] <[1] BigBadHoss> 7 is buggy
[03:31] <RogerRabb> Megaqwerty there's banshee (most like itunes) and amarok (far better than itunes in my opinion) for linux
[03:31] <rdouglas> real buggy
[03:31] <krazykit> RogerRabb: but they don't play DRM files like iTunes does
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> RogerRabb: The point was so I could play .m4p in linux
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> instead of having to reboot into windows every time I want to hear my music
[03:31] <RogerRabb> ugh, right.. umm well, what's the name of that app which gets rid of the drm?
[03:31] <[1] BigBadHoss> just get qtfairuse
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> SharpMusic?
[03:31] <[1] BigBadHoss> fuck the dmca
[03:32] <ArrenLex> !language
[03:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> !mouse
[03:32] <mabreaux> libdvdread3
[03:32] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:32] <[1] BigBadHoss> shutup bot
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> !cursors
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <Megaqwerty> [1] BigBadHoss: darn right. And of course it only applies in the US
[03:32] <RogerRabb> qtfairuse..indeed.. It depends on your country..dcma being in america only..depends on local laws etc
[03:32] <[1] BigBadHoss> who cares
[03:33] <wastrel> dmca
[03:33] <GhostFreeman> ok, so I installed a new set of cursors mostly by hand and it didn't rewrite the "Loading in Background" cursor icon that Human uses. What's going on here?
[03:33] <[1] BigBadHoss> youre breaking the protection for purposes of interoperobility
[03:33] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: you can configure the transparency in kicker. Appearance - enable transparency and
[03:34] <Megaqwerty> I think if we bought it, we should be allowed to play it...hey! I just got an idea! Burn it to a cd, and then rip the cd to the computer!!!
[03:34] <[1] BigBadHoss> its an exception if you look at it that way
[03:34] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: ack.  horrible transcoding sounds though.
[03:34] <byteshack> how can I determine which packages a .deb depends on? ie. what packages does the prevu .deb depend on?
[03:34] <Skarr> _aas: Well?
[03:34] <ArrenLex> BigBadHoss: you can argue with the courts whether or not it's an exception. QTFairUse does not apply to Ubuntu past whatever is needed to answer a question. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:34] <lenny> anyone decent with initNG on edgy?
[03:34] <krazykit> lenny: #ubuntu+1
[03:35] <lenny> +1?
[03:35] <krazykit> yes
[03:35] <krazykit> join #ubuntu+1
[03:35] <ArrenLex> lenny: it's the ubuntu edgy channel.
[03:35] <lenny> is that the official term for edgy
[03:35] <ianmacgregor> lenny: it's the edgy channel
[03:35] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: :D thank you again, very helpful
[03:35] <Megaqwerty> krazykit: seriously? you mean like with qtfairuse? or my suggestion?
[03:35] <lenny> thx
[03:35] <LockDog> How do i associate ed2k files from sites with amule?!
[03:35] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: burning/ripping.  it'll sound bad.
[03:36] <LockDog> How do i associate ed2k files from sites with amule?!
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> krazykit: eh, if it means I can play it in linux without having to get it drm-free from torrents (I'm against doing anything illegal) then I'll go for it
[03:36] <rdouglas> Hey I'm javeing trouble ripping from my CD's
[03:36] <rdouglas> sorry I meant having....
[03:36] <ArrenLex> krazykit: actually, QTFairUse6 dumps out the AAC data without loss of quality; it doesn't just capture whatever is sent to the sound card, like any Audacity can do.
[03:37] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: if you live in the US I warn you QTFairUse6 is illegal.
[03:37] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: if you don't, I believe the wikipedia entry has a download link and some info on how it works.
[03:38] <rdouglas> I purchased the CD's and I DJ so I wanted to make a second copy...
[03:38] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: I know, someone told me that DMCA applies, and thus it is Illegal, I was never planning to use it.
[03:38] <Megaqwerty> (I reside in the US)
[03:38] <some_guy> Hello
[03:38] <rdouglas> any advice...
[03:38] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: ah, morals. I remember when I had those. :)
[03:39] <Megaqwerty> * correction, I was planning to use it, until i learned it was illegal
[03:39] <GhostFreeman> if you live in the u.s. everything you do is subject to the undermining of the government, you are a terrorist by default.
[03:39] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: I suggest you buy CDs, then, and rip them.
[03:39] <bieb> buy CDs? can you actually do that?
[03:39] <ivx> hey after the win32 codecs are installed should they just work on there own or do you have to reboot or anything
[03:39] <Megaqwerty> LOL
[03:39] <_aasics_> rdouglas, what ar eyou looking for?  a ripper?
[03:40] <byteshack> anyone here used prevu?
[03:40] <ArrenLex> ivx: they'll just work, provided your media player knows where to look for them.
[03:40] <rdouglas> I did... but having problem ripping in Ubuntu.
[03:40] <GhostFreeman> buy...CD? I do that
[03:40] <RogerRabb> may as well send a letter to apple + anyone else relevant explaining you're having to get the same thing twice, because of the restrictions placed on it
[03:40] <some_guy> any one know the best eyecandy for ubuntu?
[03:40] <nkayhan> HiTech69, I'm having some mplayer firefox pluggin issues
[03:40] <_aasics_> some_guy, GLX
[03:40] <some_guy> thanx
[03:40] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: my sister downloads a lot of stuff from iTunes, I usually just use one of her licenses on my Computer, but I haven't been able to get it to work in Ubuntu, which is why I'm here.
[03:40] <some_guy> ill look it up
[03:40] <ivx> Arrenlex will the w32 codecs support avi also?
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> Anywho, I'm going to go reboot, and try my (brilliant?) workaround
[03:41] <_aasics_> ivx, avi is just a capsule,  several different codecs could be in avi
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> in Windows
[03:41] <ArrenLex> ivx: You don't need w32codecs to play avi files. All common avi formats are supported by default.
[03:41] <AWOSDev> Hello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?
[03:41] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: I'm sorry, there's just nothing we can offer you that isn't illegal for you. No solution exists because of DRM. = /
[03:41] <nkayhan> Whenever I play a video that's more than like aminuit long, all I see is grey with a statis bar.  Any ideas?
[03:41] <lenny> anyone know their way around initNG?
[03:41] <byteshack> some_guy: glx :)
[03:41] <bieb> Mega.. there are better ways than iTunes
[03:41] <blackgraz> ok
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: Argh
[03:41] <ivx> arrenlex i am trying to play an avi, i couldn't play it so i installed the w32codecs. it still won't play
[03:41] <blackgraz> I have a problem with GRUB
[03:41] <ArrenLex> ivx: what media player?
[03:42] <nkayhan> any ideas?
[03:42] <some_guy> Can GLX run with any grafix card?
[03:42] <rdouglas> home depot has Grub remover... lol
[03:42] <mikm[laptop] > some_guy no
[03:42] <_aasics_> some_guy, I have it running on intel graphics
[03:42] <some_guy> ATI 9200?
[03:43] <blackgraz> hahah
[03:43] <blackgraz> well
[03:43] <ivx> arrenlex it just says media play. it came installed by default
[03:43] <blackgraz> GRUB locks up on me
[03:43] <rdouglas> :-)
[03:43] <bieb> ok.. I have a permissions question...
[03:43] <Megaqwerty> bieb: I know, but my Sister gets all her stuff from there, and it is all too convenient for her due to the fact that she has an iPod, so yeah. (She uses Windows) I haven't been able to find a decent Content Protection program for linux, so he won't let me install Ubuntu on her computer
[03:43] <blackgraz> now when i boot from the CD and tell the CD boot my HD it loads
[03:43] <ArrenLex> ivx: that's probably VLC. Ubuntu compiled it so that it doesn't support w32codecs AFAIK. You'll need to install something else.
[03:43] <blackgraz> whats up?
[03:43] <Megaqwerty> if anyone has any suggestions on a Content Protection program though...I'd be open to suggestions
[03:44] <ivx> arrenlex alright i'll see what happens. thanks
[03:44] <Seeker2599> can ubuntu run rpms?
[03:44] <Megaqwerty> (Content Protection=Parental Controls)
[03:44] <bieb> I have a small webserver running Ubuntu, I have been editing the pages directly on the server with pico.. no problems...
[03:44] <GhostFreeman> What are the prospects of IceWeasel officially taking over Firefox in the releases following Edgy?
[03:44] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: why is your sister interested in parental controls? o_O
[03:44] <RogerRabb> Seeker2599, no, but you can use alien to convert an rpm to deb
[03:44] <Seeker2599> !alien
[03:44] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:44] <sig> whats the command to see what channels someone is in?
[03:44] <ArrenLex>  /whois, sig?
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: no she isn't, my dad won't let me give her linux unless he can install them on Ubuntu
[03:45] <k1d> sudo alien package_file.rpm
[03:45] <bieb> I have Dreamweaver on my work PC and want to be able to ftp the updates from work.. what group should I add the regular user to? the web stuff is owned by root:root
[03:45] <ArrenLex> Ouch.
[03:45] <GhostFreeman> if your sister (or I assume parent) wants to use content protection, then she's probably not being a decent sister or parent
[03:45] <Seeker2599> ty k1d
[03:45] <lw> cant log into system using another account , anybody can help me???0000
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: indeed
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> lol
[03:46] <Megaqwerty> it's mostly so we don't accidentally click a misleading link in google that would take us to a porn site
[03:46] <k1d> u r welcome
[03:46] <GhostFreeman> that's why you ask in IRC if this link is going to lead you to Last Measure
[03:46] <GhostFreeman> =)
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> ?
[03:47] <kitche> Megaqwerty: there is a few programs that dow hat you want
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> kitche: are they in the repos?
[03:47] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: content protection?  squid proxy + setup
[03:47] <AWOSDev> Megaqwerty, I read an article online about Squid.
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> ah, thanks
[03:47] <bieb> someone mentioned adding the regular user to the "wheel" group
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> anywho, I need to work, so thanks for all your help! bye.
[03:49] <kjon> I have a question. Is there a way to use the ACPI features of a non-original toshiba laptop? I got one, but it has a phoenix bios, so it spits toshiba_acpi out and I got no advanced acpi support.
[03:50] <krazykit> kjon: it should have the BIOS features that any other semi-decent BIOS has.
[03:50] <sethk> anybody have a URL about the nvidia security problem in the channel subject?
[03:50] <sethk> sorry, channel topic is the correct word
[03:50] <krazykit> sethk: eh... it was on slashdot recently
[03:51] <krazykit> sethk: not really an issue unless you're exporting X-sessions to untrusted users.
[03:51] <sethk> krazykit, hmm, I'm not sure I believe it, if it's only on slashdot  :)
[03:51] <kjon> krazykit: sure, but I've got no hotkeys nor good battery performance.
[03:51] <sethk> krazykit, I only export sessions to myself at work, so I'm probably safe.  :)
[03:51] <kjon> without toshiba utilities, my machine drains its battery in 1:30 hrs.
[03:51] <Pierre> sethk: http://download2.rapid7.com/r7-0025/
[03:52] <sethk> Pierre, thanks
[03:53] <sethk> hmm., says it's been around since 2004.  That doesn't really prove anything but it probably isn't virulent.
[03:53] <bieb> ok.. I have a permissions question...
[03:53] <bieb> I have a small webserver running Ubuntu, I have been editing the pages directly on the server with pico.. no problems...
[03:53] <bieb> I have Dreamweaver on my work PC and want to be able to ftp the updates from work.. what group should I add the regular user to? the web stuff is owned by root:root
[03:54] <bieb> someone mentioned adding the regular user to the "wheel" group
[03:54] <Jeaton> what app is that for X that pretty much resembles MS Office
[03:54] <Jeaton> well, not resemble
[03:54] <Jeaton> but it's more of a replacement
[03:54] <Seeker2599> does ubuntu come with alien installed?
[03:55] <bieb> Jeaton... Open Office or Star Office
[03:55] <sethk> Seeker2599, it doesn't come with anything installed.  It comes on a cd as a set of packages
[03:55] <Jeaton> Open Office, that's it
[03:55] <k1d> no, seeker2599
[03:55] <sethk> Seeker2599, whether it is installed depends on which install options you choose.
[03:55] <bieb> what is alien?
[03:56] <sethk> bieb, a thing that lets you use rpm packages.
[03:56] <GhostFreeman> !alien
[03:56] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:56] <sethk> bieb, dangerous
[03:56] <Seeker2599> can i get alien from the add/remove programs?
[03:56] <k1d> u can
[03:56] <sethk> Seeker2599, probably.  synaptic has better searching
[03:56] <ruda> hey n00bs
[03:56] <bieb> gotcha
[03:56] <Seeker2599> whats synaptic?
[03:56] <ruda> Seeker2599: is what you got in your brain
[03:57] <sethk> Seeker2599, a front end for the package manager
[03:58] <starsky> synaptic != alien ; alien is from slacker's world, synaptic is from human world. :)
[03:58] <host`> what's a good mp3 player for linux?
[03:58] <krazykit> ruda: no, those are synapses
[03:58] <fatbrain> !libpng
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libpng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <starsky> !vlc
[03:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:58] <sethk> krazykit, his may be missing.
[03:58] <fatbrain> Why can't I install the libpng / libpng-dev package?
[03:58] <kitche> host` umm it depends on your taste really
[03:59] <ruda> fatbrain: because something is wrong
[03:59] <fatbrain> ruda: indeeds
[03:59] <pike_> host`: xmms is my choice usually
[03:59] <host`> I want something that you don't have to do a lot of clicking to edit playlists, unlike mplayer
[03:59] <ruda> fatbrain: what have you tried?
[03:59] <fatbrain> cies (manly)
[03:59] <fatbrain> apt-get install lilbpng-dev
[03:59] <fatbrain> (sudo ofc)
[03:59] <host`> I was about to get xmms
[04:00] <krazykit> host`: amarok, maybe?
[04:00] <ruda> fatbrain: and what do you got?
[04:00] <kitche> host` amarok or banshee
[04:00] <fatbrain> I did toy with the sources.list a couple of days ago...
[04:00] <fatbrain> hrm...
[04:00] <lw> exaile
[04:00] <pike_> host`: amarok might be a little better then..
[04:00] <ruda> fatbrain: so rollback your souce.list , apt-get update and then try to install again
[04:01] <kitche> host`: if you have gnome I would use banshee
[04:01] <fatbrain> will try that, thanks
[04:01] <fatbrain> worked now
[04:01] <timfrost> !info libpng3
[04:01] <fatbrain> thanks
[04:01] <ubotu> libpng3: PNG library - runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8rel-5 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 24 kB
[04:03] <marcusgrazette> hi, i'm having problems with swapon -a command.
[04:04] <richie> hello does anyone know the correct plugins i should get to run m4a audio files?
[04:04] <marcusgrazette> getting the error message "swapon: /dev/hda4: Operation not permitted"
[04:04] <krazykit> richie: faad, i think.
[04:04] <sheriff> is there anybody who can help me about Java
[04:04] <pike_> marcusgrazette: thats 'sudo swapon -a' right?
[04:04] <ruda> marcusgrazette: try to reset the swap partition
[04:04] <kitche> sheriff: yes what is wrong exactly
[04:04] <richie> krazykit: cheers.
[04:04] <mphill> when gdm starts it goes into a out sync error on the screen, I do a control+alt+back space then it works.  any idea on how to fix it? so i don't have to do that?
[04:04] <marcusgrazette> how do i reset the partition?
[04:05] <ruda> marcusgrazette: sudo mkswap /dev/hda4 (be sure)
[04:05] <ruda> marcusgrazette: and then sync
[04:05] <ruda> marcusgrazette: and after , try to activate again
[04:05] <sheriff> kitche: i just downloaded java creator and installed it was working well but now it starts without any menu or screen
[04:05] <k1d> 
[04:05] <[1] BigBadHoss> hey how do i get tftpd to work with ubuntu server 6.06
[04:05] <sethk> mphill, the default resolution is too high for your monitor
[04:06] <sethk> mphill, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and remove it.
[04:06] <Abst> Anyone know where to obtain libmono1.0-cil
[04:06] <marcusgrazette> ruda: thanks! that worked great
[04:06] <Elohimus> I'm having issues configuring my xorg. I have a radeon 9200, I've installed the fglrx driver but now I'm getting the error: "no devices detected"
[04:06] <marcusgrazette> ruda: i've been trying to figure out how to do that for 2 days
[04:06] <kitche> sheriff you mean Sun Java Studio Creator right?
[04:06] <ruda> marcusgrazette: cool
[04:06] <sheriff> kitche : well after i had installed java installed beryl.. could it be the problem
[04:06] <wastrel> Elohimus:  i believe the open source driver supports 3d for the 9200
[04:06] <sheriff> kitche : yeah
[04:06] <sethk> Abst, try the libmono and libmono-dev packages, if you haven't already
[04:06] <spinz8r> Hv this msg" hda/dev4 mounted 32 times without being checked, checked forced. and then countdowntimer. Boot normally after that. Is this normal?
[04:07] <sethk> spinz8r, yes.  you can override it
[04:07] <Abst> !info libmono
[04:07] <ubotu> Package libmono does not exist in any distro I know
[04:07] <Abst> >_>
[04:07] <sethk> spinz8r, tune2fs can be used to set the check interval, or turn it off completely
[04:07] <kitche> sheriff: might be due to beryl but what do you see on the screen when Creator loads exactly?
[04:07] <sethk> spinz8r, turning it off completely is not recommended, but you may want to disable the auto check so you can decide when to take the time hit.
[04:07] <sheriff> kitche : just an empty form
[04:08] <ruda> au revoir
[04:08] <sethk> Sherdog, try file/new, IIRC
 tks. how do i override it? or shall i leave it as it?
[04:08] <sethk> Sherdog, sorry, tab completion
[04:08] <sheriff> kitche : it says it loads everything but nothing comes up except an empty form
[04:08] <sethk> sheriff, , sorry, tab completion
[04:08] <argoe> I'm a linux noob...when Ubuntu says I have updates to linux-headers and linux-image and that stuff...is it safe to install or is it going to blow up my system?  Seems like I did that once some time ago and ended up reformatting.
[04:08] <sethk> sheriff, , sorry, tab completion
[04:08] <kitche> sheriff: yeah probably a beryl problem
[04:08] <sethk> sheriff, , try file/new, IIRC
[04:08] <sethk> got it.  :)
[04:08] <MTecknology> What GDM was it that gives you a desktop like a cube that you can rotate?
[04:09] <Elohimus> wastrel: this tutorial I'm reading says to use the fglrx.
[04:09] <sethk> argoe, not completely safe, no.
[04:09] <kitche> sethk: kinda hard to do that with a menubar isn't it
[04:09] <kitche> without/with
[04:09] <sethk> kitche, with a menu bar?  do you mean without a menu bar?
[04:09] <Sherdog> sethk np pal :)
[04:09] <argoe> sethk: thanks.  I thought so.  So it's ok to just let those be, right?
[04:09] <sethk> kitche, and, no, it isn't, because there are shortcuts
[04:09] <sethk> argoe, right
[04:09] <Elohimus> It says no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10:0) found
[04:09] <argoe> sethk: thank you very much
[04:09] <sethk> argoe, I always wait a few days and let someone else be the guinnea pig  :)
[04:09] <sheriff> sethk : what \ sorry i didnt understand what you said
[04:09] <marcusgrazette> also, i'm having a problem backing up some data to dvdr. i'm moving from windows, and want to backup my iTunes library. i'm trying to use CD/dvd creator with an external dvd burner. i keep getting the error "file too large for filesystem" i have about 7gb free
[04:10] <argoe> sethk:  I've been waiting on these for a few weeks hehe
[04:10] <holycow> has anyone here setup software raid1 using d-I?  just curious if you were able to install grub to the mbr or not ... my attempts are failing in various configurations
[04:10] <sethk> sheriff, on the designer, creator, whatever they are calling it these days, there should be a way to create a new empty form.
[04:10] <argoe> sethK: 2.6.15-26
[04:11] <logankoester> I made a link with ln to a directory, if I rm -f the link, will rm follow it or simply remove the link?
[04:11] <kitche> sheriff: sethk do you want the menu bar back sheriff?
[04:11] <johnccc> how do I add a user in the terminal?
[04:11] <sethk> argoe, it's probably fine, but, on the other hand, if you don't need to fix anything, why upgrade?
[04:11] <timfrost> Elohimus: what id does lspci give for the video card?  You should be using that
[04:11] <bimberi> johnccc, sudo adduser
[04:11] <sheriff> sethk : no the application doesnt work i mean there is an empty form when it works..i cant do with it
[04:11] <argoe> sethk: that's my feeling as well.  just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any cardinal rules :)
[04:12] <johnccc> bimberi, thanks
[04:12] <Elohimus> timfrost: 0000:01:0a.0
[04:12] <bimberi> johnccc: np :)
[04:12] <sethk> argoe, right.  sooner or later you'll have to upgrade for some reason or other, but I prefer later to sooner.
[04:12] <sheriff> kitche : well i disabled beryl but it still didnt work i guess i have to re-install it
[04:13] <bimberi> logankoester: removing a symlink (ln -s) will remove the link only
[04:13] <logankoester> bimberi: thanks
[04:13] <kitche> sheriff: well you can use a shortcut probably but I don't know the exaact shortcuts of Creator
[04:13] <bimberi> logankoester: np :)
[04:14] <host`> I kind alike amarok
[04:14] <argoe> sethk: thanks again.
[04:14] <sethk> bimberi, remove any link, sym or hard, removes the link only.
[04:14] <timfrost> Elohimus: have you tried 'PCI:1:a:0' rather than 1:10:0?  And have you tried letting it be auto-detected (in 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg')?
[04:14] <bimberi> sethk: thanks, i wasn't sure about hardlinks :)
[04:15] <kitche> host`: it's ok if you like a lot of kde dependencies just like banshee pulls all of gnome
[04:17] <bombero> highvolt1ge, how to change with apt-get the kernel from single CPU to SMP ?
[04:18] <krazykit> kitche: amarok only pulls in kdelibs and kdebase, if you remove the "suggested" and "recommended" packages
[04:18] <Elohimus> I have tried letting it by itself and it doesn't work. For some reason it keeps looking for BusID PCI:1:10:0
[04:18] <host`> I'm checking out banshee too, just to be able to compare
[04:18] <sethk> Elohimus, you realize that 0xa is decimal 10?
[04:18] <GhostFreeman> !e17
[04:18] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:19] <GhostFreeman> thanks ubotu, vauge as ever
[04:19] <krazykit> GhostFreeman: if you're interested in e17, google for easy-e17.sh
[04:19] <Elohimus> sethk: I don't convert between them in my head.
[04:19] <Elohimus> I wasn't even thinking 0xa was 10.
[04:19] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[04:21] <kitche> krazykit: yeah I just noticed that it only depends on KDElibs
[04:22] <infonomic> Hi, can anyone help me get printing on Dapper Drake?
[04:22] <RagePrblm> Does anyone konw the command to install xvid codecs from terminal?
[04:22] <RagePrblm> if there is one
[04:23] <starsky> !info libsdl
[04:23] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in any distro I know
[04:23] <Distro^Junkie> python-extattr <--- where can I find this ?
[04:24] <host`> how do I go back and uninstall packages? like I installed something and all it's deps, how do I uninstall all of them at once?
[04:24] <kitche> !info sdl
[04:24] <host`> is there a way?
[04:24] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in any distro I know
[04:24] <infonomic> I can't even see /dev/lp* from the live CD...
[04:25] <sheriff> kitche: what do u mean shortcut
[04:25] <kitche> sheriff: keys like Ctrl+N for new
[04:25] <sheriff> kitche : ok i'll try
[04:26] <sheriff> kitche: it didnt work either
[04:26] <tehstev> hey all, trying to find a way to bind a global hotkey to a command...
[04:26] <infonomic> I read all th FAQ i could find as well as anythg on google....
[04:27] <newpZ> hi i connected my projector to my laptop, i restarted X, it comes up fine on the projetor but if i try to watch movies in mplayer or vlc the video is just black on the rojector and is working on the laptop screen... does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:27] <sethk> infonomic, what kind of printer is it?  Parallel connection?  usb connection?
[04:27] <kitche> !twinview
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <newpZ> heh
[04:27] <sheriff> kitche: there is another problem i have to set my keyboard layout everytime i reboot my computer. why is that
[04:28] <newpZ> yeah i used to have it that the projector was set on twin view.. but that is not working now.. it is the same desktop on both screens
[04:28] <bombero> join #debian
[04:28] <kitche> sheriff: your inputrc in /etc is probably setup to do that
[04:29] <noob1> im quite the noob whats a good program out there for a dinamic ip to use for a webserver and irc. I have seen some for windows with sucess, My computor is at my a+ comp class and im just trying to get some general info for when i finish it tomarow
[04:29] <infonomic> My prntr is Dskjet-540C, parallel attached...
[04:30] <kitche> noob1: do you mean a dynamic ip service?
[04:30] <noob1> i have internet
[04:30] <noob1> i need some thing that will update it for my host name
[04:30] <sheriff> kitche : so lines should i change
[04:31] <kitche> sheriff: nevermind it's not /etc/inputrc hmm it could be /etc/profile or something
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> Will the dyndns or no-ip clients work from behind a router?  (What settings might I need to change in this direction?  Can already do port forwarding incoming.)
[04:31] <kitche> sheriff: I never truly ran intot hat after an install
[04:32] <noob1> well i have access to port forwording i think
[04:32] <noob1> i have tryed no-ip but i dont want to pay
[04:33] <noob1> and me not wanting to pay is the reson i dont have static
[04:34] <kitche> noob1: umm no-ip is free
[04:34] <Shish> dyndns should work fine behind a router, IIRC all it does is makes one outgoing connection to a web server
[04:34] <kitche> noob1: unless you want to use your own domain
[04:34] <infonomic>  newpZ... still there???
[04:34] <noob1> i do
[04:34] <newpZ> infonomic, yup
[04:34] <noob1> i bought it for my runescape clan lol
[04:35] <noob1> and we have an irc right now but for how long idk
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> Wait, never mind.  The router has it built in :)
[04:35] <Elohimus> anyway to install ubuntu from commandline?
[04:35] <kitche> noob1: you will have to pay to use your own domain anyways
[04:35] <kitche> Elohimus: alternate cd
[04:35] <Elohimus> kk
[04:35] <infonomic> yeh, cant see any /dev/lp* at all, parport and lp mods are loaded, tried lpadmin as sudo...
[04:35] <noob1> k
[04:35] <noob1> ty
[04:36] <noob1> ill probly be back tomarow when i try to turn it on
[04:36] <noob1> lol
[04:36] <lw> cant login system with another account, who can help me?
[04:36] <SurfnKid> whats the channel for disk problems
[04:36] <SurfnKid> !disk
[04:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:36] <infonomic>  newpZ, any thoughts?
[04:37] <G0oW> i <3 the ubuntu
[04:37] <SurfnKid> I just ran into a disk permission access problem
[04:37] <[1] BigBadHoss> please someone help me with setting up tftpd
[04:37] <newpZ> infonomic, uhh im just trying to get my twinhead working.. no clue
[04:37] <SurfnKid> its a USB Storage Drive
[04:37] <G0oW> im having trouble installing on it =/
[04:38] <G0oW> :-$
[04:38] <SurfnKid> I was deleting mp3's from it, and it trashed them, then when emptying the trash its says it cant have access or its read only
[04:38] <infonomic>  newpZ, thx...
[04:38] <SurfnKid> so I have no idea how that is happening
[04:38] <sillygaten> IM ME!\
[04:38] <kitche> SurfnKid: you have to be root to delete them so use sudo or gtksudo
[04:38] <sillygaten> windows eh?
[04:39] <infonomic>  newpZ, is there a channel for printer problms?
[04:39] <kitche> SurfnKid: since those files are owned by root
[04:39] <SurfnKid> i see
[04:39] <SurfnKid> ok here's the thing
[04:40] <sillygaten> m not me?
[04:40] <SurfnKid> ive been having that since yesterday, but every time i disconnect and reconnect the drive it gives me access
[04:40] <infonomic> Can anyone hlp me get printing to work on Dapper Drake???
[04:40] <rooob> hi guys.. im stuck.. apt-get -f install, remove, upgrade and dist-upgrade all bork on an xorg package.. can someone have a look and offer me a suggestion to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/
[04:40] <SurfnKid> but now.... after deleting a few mp3s and emptying trash bin, some files/folders have become locked, even with sudo, it says read only
[04:41] <skarface> what's the default chmod setting for a home directory?
[04:41] <Milchmann> 644 for folders, 755 for files i think
[04:41] <deadkenny> anybdy know how to set disk quota per virtual user on vsftpd, or a disk quota per directory?
[04:42] <skarface> thanks
[04:42] <SurfnKid> whats the chmod command to give full access ?
[04:42] <kitche> skarface drwxr-xr-x is what it should look like when your down
[04:42] <SurfnKid> i know its 777 just dont know the whole cmd
[04:42] <kitche> SurfnKid: if it's vfat it won't work since Fat doesn't know permissions
[04:42] <SurfnKid> !@%#
[04:42] <SurfnKid> :(
[04:43] <SurfnKid> whats a good format for NTFS and ext2/3 to have
[04:43] <kitche> SurfnKid: you can you gksudo and the filemanager to do it
[04:43] <SurfnKid> that can do perm
[04:43] <Zer0Ry0k0> Would it be easyer to get Counter Strike 1.6 or Counter Strike: Source to run with WINE?   Or do they both need the other 2 programs that cost money?
[04:43] <SurfnKid> ok
[04:43] <exarkun> How does one add images to a slideshow screensaver?
[04:43] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: they both need steam
[04:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> so they both need the other 2 progs...
[04:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay
[04:44] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: which doesn't cost money the games due though
[04:44] <starsky> does anyone know the status of ntfs rw support on 6.06 ?
[04:44] <[1] BigBadHoss> cs works with wine most of the time
[04:44] <deadkenny> anybdy know how to set disk quota per virtual user on vsftpd, or a disk quota per directory?
[04:44] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: but if it's lan I wouldn't even bother setting up steam
[04:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> someone earlyer was saying that you need something that starts with a c and some other program to get Steam to run
[04:44] <Manyfold> sudo dpkg --force-depend --purge scrollkeeper gives me an error message what is wrong with the syntax of this command?
[04:45] <skarface> another one... what groups should my main user be in?
[04:45] <tritium> Manyfold: why are you forcing things?
[04:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> kitche, I am on a LAN but I'm not going to be playing inside the LAN, I want to play online
[04:45] <SurfnKid> kitche, so with gksudo what can i do, typed it but nothin came out
[04:45] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: then you need steam
[04:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> okie
[04:46] <Manyfold> tritium: gnome takes unbeareble long to show the desktop when i log in
[04:46] <Zer0Ry0k0> and just using WINE should be enough maybe?
[04:46] <rixth> Zer0Ry0k0, Cedega is the c word?
[04:46] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: don't know don't use steam
[04:46] <tritium> Manyfold: you should find the cause.  Removing scrollkeeper is a bad idea.
[04:46] <Zer0Ry0k0> that and one other program someone said I would need
[04:46] <Manyfold> tritum: i tried to google for the gnome login and startup process but didn't find anything
[04:47] <kitche> SurfnKid: you need your filemanager after gksudo but you can probably find that same command in your menu
[04:47] <Manyfold> tritium i don't jnow were gnome keeps its logfiles
[04:47] <infonomic> Help! No printers detected on my laptop running Dapper Drake, no /de/lp* files either...
[04:47] <tritium> Manyfold: why are you looking for them?
[04:47] <kitche> infonomic: you mean /dev/lp?
[04:47] <Manyfold> tritium: but 5 min to show the desktop is simply unbereble
[04:47] <david_> Hey, I'm running kismet, and after about 5 minutes, I start getting thousands of packets from "no ssid" they all appear to be LLC packets, what is going on?
[04:48] <Manyfold> tritium: to see what went wrong
[04:48] <david_> I also stop getting normal packets at that piont
[04:48] <david_> point
[04:48] <kitche> david_: you found an Adhoc
[04:48] <Manyfold> tritium: if i don't solve this problem today i am going to thrash ubuntu forever
[04:48] <david_> oh really?
[04:48] <infonomic> kitche: ls /dev/lp* = no files found...
[04:49] <kitche> infonomic: type of printer?
[04:49] <david_> kitche: why does it only come on after I have been running kismet for a couple of minutes?
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> kitche: I thought AdHoc networks had essids too?
[04:49] <tritium> Manyfold: it's not ubuntu.  You have something going on.
[04:49] <Manyfold> tritium: so where does gnome store it's log files i found nothing in ~/.gnome2
[04:49] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  sup bro...
[04:49] <tritium> Manyfold: what makes you think log files are your problem?
[04:50] <david_> kitche: cause I am getting like 500+ packets per second
[04:50] <Manyfold> tritium: and what do i have going on it's ma fresh install
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Not too much, but hopefully sleeping soon..
[04:50] <infonomic> kitchie: HP Deskjet-540C, parallel attached....
[04:50] <david_> kitche: and everything else stops....
[04:50] <KurtKraut> Does Ubuntu Server comes with postfix already installed ?
[04:50] <tritium> Manyfold: who knows.  Could be something with your hardware, for example.
[04:50] <pckim93> Hi
[04:50] <kitche> david_: probably found something that you shouldn't be messing with :)
[04:50] <Manyfold> tritium: my hardware is okay
[04:50] <SurfnKid> weird nothing happening
[04:50] <pckim93> Which version do I download for a core 2 duo desktop machine?
[04:51] <Manyfold> tritium : now tell which logfiles should i search
[04:51] <david_> kitche: so, it's real, I'm not just getting interferance or something?
[04:51] <tritium> Manyfold: where does it start slowing down?
[04:51] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  just wanted to say..  I stood up for Ubuntu an got some respect out off my LUG ...
[04:51] <effie_jayx> :)
[04:51] <Manyfold> when i log in
[04:52] <kitche> david_: could be interferance but ti depends what's around you
[04:52] <tritium> Manyfold: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, if it's bogging down when gdm loads?
[04:52] <pckim93> Which version do I download for a core 2 duo desktop machine?  intel x86 or AMD 64?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Yay!
[04:52] <Manyfold> tritium: when i log in as i already mentioned
[04:52] <kitche> david_: or around the router
[04:52] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  even some slackware useres were backing me up in the end...
[04:52] <tritium> Manyfold: and?
[04:53] <kitche> effie_jayx: ubuntu has it's uses
[04:53] <infonomic> kitche: you think it could b my cable??? Works fine under Messy Win-dos'nt
[04:53] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  they promissed to do some installing in my university... we are working on having LINUX labs... with ubuntu on them...
[04:53] <kitche> infonomic: well did you install the driver for your printer?
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> pckim93: Looks like x86.
[04:53] <Manyfold> tritium: and then i wait 5 min till my desktop appears
[04:53] <kitche> !hp
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <effie_jayx> kitche:  who doesn't
[04:53] <kitche> !printing
[04:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:53] <starsky> !hplib
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Very fun.  Our math department's web server is Ubuntu.
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hplib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <tritium> Manyfold: so what does the logfile show?  How about dmesg, and the syslog?
[04:53] <starsky> !hpiod
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hpiod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <starsky> :)
[04:54] <Manyfold> tritium nothing
[04:54] <timfrost> !hplip
[04:54] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[04:54] <kitche> effie_jayx a lot of distros :)
[04:54] <tritium> Manyfold: you looked at all three?
[04:54] <starsky> timfrost: :)
[04:54] <effie_jayx> kitche:  ubuntu was just a bridge... I choose to go forward ... or not...
[04:54] <infonomic> kitche: look at CUPS doc and my prntr supprtd. Main thing is I cant see any /de/lp* files :(
[04:55] <Manyfold> tritium: wait a moment please
[04:55] <Manyfold> processing
[04:55] <kitche> infonomic: install hplip
[04:55] <kitche> effie_jayx: that's what ubuntu is good for or for peopel tried of compiling stuff
[04:56] <alex_> how do i install a lamp server ????
[04:56] <infonomic> how do i install hplip??? The stuff is default under Dapper from wht I see...
[04:56] <kitche> !lamp
[04:56] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:56] <tritium> kitche: you can compile on ubuntu as well, of course
[04:56] <kitche> tritium: yes but that
[04:56] <Manyfold> tritium Oct 18 04:10:42 localhost gconfd (mw-5577): Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst
[04:56] <kitche> tritium: yes but that's not why a lot of users pick it at least more advance users that don't have time
[04:56] <tritium> Manyfold: sorry, can't read German
[04:56] <Manyfold> tritium: thats the only line that's suspect
[04:57] <effie_jayx> kitche: would you like more win users to switch to linux?
[04:57] <tritium> infonomic: you should already have it installed
[04:58] <timfrost> kitche: infonomic: hplip should already be installed (and on the live CD), as ubuntu-desktop depends on it.  If the printer isn't turned on when the CD is booted, then it won't be auto-detected.
[04:58] <infonomic> tritium: you bet... I still cant figure out the missing /de/lp0...lp2 files though....
[04:58] <kitche> effie_jayx: that's what ubuntu is trying to do to me it doesn't matter since peopel use what they will I use windows and linux due to my college uses windows only
[04:59] <tritium> infonomic: you shouldn't have to worry about that
[04:59] <infonomic> timfrost: prntr is on when booted...
[04:59] <effie_jayx> kitche so does my university... my university has a campus agreement with my university
[04:59] <effie_jayx> kitche sorry
[04:59] <effie_jayx> MS has a campus agrrement
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Those are the worst.
[04:59] <marshall> effie_jayx: lol of course they do
[05:00] <effie_jayx> kitche:   so you see... I learn something differnt....
[05:00] <timfrost> infonomic: run the printing applet (System->Administration->printing), and try adding the printer.
[05:01] <infonomic>  tritium: why should I not worry abt missing /dev/lp0...lp2 special files???
[05:01] <tritium> infonomic: because setting up a printer doesn't require you to know that
[05:01] <seadoo18> yo
[05:02] <infonomic> timfrost: I tried that but no peinter detected and port shows hp no_device_detected...
[05:02] <seadoo18> ok people
[05:02] <seadoo18> i have a question about Anjuta
[05:02] <seadoo18> when i start a new project it says i need to have GLib 2.2.0 installed
[05:02] <seadoo18> which i proceeded to download
[05:03] <seadoo18> the problem is when i tried to install in the terminal, the readme said to use the "make" command to build GLib
[05:03] <tritium> seadoo18: please use more punctuation and less enter key
[05:03] <seadoo18> however, "make" doesn
[05:03] <seadoo18> doesn't work in my terminal
[05:03] <seadoo18> for some rason
[05:03] <seadoo18> reason*
[05:03] <kitche> sudo apt-get install build-esstenial and your spamming the channel
[05:03] <kitche> bah my spelling is horrible lol
[05:03] <seadoo18> lol
[05:03] <tritium> seadoo18: did you install the -dev version of libglib?
[05:03] <seadoo18> thank you
[05:04] <BenMcLean> anybody here?
[05:04] <Madpilot> BenMcLean, nope
[05:04] <kitche> !ask
[05:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:04] <elvis> i have installed gcc,make,gdb,but there is no any head files in /usr/include,and i can't use g++ too ,how to do?
[05:04] <Madpilot> only you and 850+ bots ;)
[05:04] <tritium> !b-e > elvis
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> i have a host and im tring to set up and sql password on it mysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server.supermiguel.com' failed
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> error: 'Host 'server.supermiguel.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> any clue?
[05:05] <timfrost> seadoo18: why not install the version of anjuta that is in the repositories?  You need to enable the universe repository.
[05:05] <kitche> SuperMigue1: your permissions are set wrong
[05:05] <starsky> elvis: you need to install linux headers for your kernel.
[05:05] <tritium> starsky: uh, no
[05:06] <timfrost> elvis: also install linux-headers-$(uname -r) to get the kernel headers
[05:06] <kitche> SuperMigue1: you have to configure that MySQL server to allow outside connections
[05:06] <SuperMigue1> how :A
[05:06] <marshall> you're welcome seadoo18
[05:06] <infonomic> kitche: tritium: timfrost: I even tried cmd-line sudo unsuccessfly
[05:06] <marshall> seadoo18: XD!!!
[05:06] <Noct1> can somebody please help me install a program from the internet
[05:06] <SuperMigue1> edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out the line bind-address = 127.0.0.1?
[05:06] <marshall> seadoo18: eh?
[05:07] <tritium> elvis: see the URL I had ubotu send you
[05:07] <marshall> has anybody seen seadoo18?
[05:07] <kitche> SuperMigue1: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/connection-access.html
[05:07] <marshall> man that guy is slippery
[05:07] <pdlnhrd> if i want to live life dangerously.. what command line could i use to force a dist-upgrade?
[05:07] <seadoo18> lol
[05:07] <Abst> Can I fix this?
[05:07] <tritium> elvis: you don't need linux-headers unless you're going to compile kenrel modules
[05:07] <Abst> dpkg: error processing tzdata_2006m-1_all.deb (--install):
[05:07] <Abst>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab', which is also in package locales
[05:07] <kitche> SuperMigue1: that link should show you what you want
[05:07] <tritium> pdlnhrd: you can't just issue a command without first change your repo listing in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <pdlnhrd> tritium:  o.k.  i thought there was a way to force it... guess not... just change all the dapper to edgy?
[05:08] <BenMcLean> OK
[05:08] <BenMcLean> Where can i get a floppy boot disk
[05:08] <BenMcLean> cause this isn't wanting to boot to CD
[05:08] <BenMcLean> ...
[05:09] <SurfnKid> kitche, vfat file error, thats what it was
[05:09] <SurfnKid> XP fixed it
[05:09] <BenMcLean> I'm trying to install Xubuntu in microsoft virtual PC 2004 based in windows
[05:09] <Noct1> benMcLean mabye you could make one
[05:09] <timfrost> Abst: where did you get that tzdata deb from?  tzdata isn't a standard ubuntu package.
[05:09] <elvis> tritium: but i need standard c headers
[05:09] <SurfnKid> how can i fix it in linux?
[05:09] <BenMcLean> how
[05:09] <Abst> timfrost: debian
[05:09] <BenMcLean> i have an MS-DOS 6.2 floppy disk image
[05:09] <tritium> elvis: that has nothing to do with linux-headers-* packages
[05:09] <BenMcLean> (er, a boot disk for ms-dos 6.2)
[05:09] <fbc> I installed my laptop with my broadcomm wireless card tunr off so it never got detected. How do I get it to recognize it after I enable it?
[05:09] <Noct1> ben, i dont know how just know it can be done
[05:10] <tritium> pdlnhrd: ask in #ubuntu+1 please, as this channel is for stable (currently dapper)
[05:10] <BenMcLean> oh crap :)
[05:10] <nope> question: how secure is ubuntu as far as ebayers go and all that jazz
[05:10] <Noct1> sorry :(
[05:10] <nope> ?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> ebayers?
[05:10] <fbc> was that for me_
[05:10] <fbc> ?
[05:10] <nope> yeah i know
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu is very secure.
[05:10] <nope> ebay(yees) lol
[05:10] <wastrel> ubuntu is too secure
[05:10] <nope> how?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Linux in general is very secure.. ubuntu tries to be even more paranlid.
[05:11] <kitche> nope: umm it's as secure as windows at sending information if that's what you meant
[05:11] <SurfnKid> !disk
[05:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:11] <elvis> yeah,i see,but how can i get these standard c headers
[05:11] <Abst> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27178/
[05:11] <nope> do i need any virus, spyware BS
[05:11] <fbc> can someone help me with a config problem?
[05:11] <desertfish> hi all!  Just installed 6.06-server and I'm having network problems. nforce2 chipset with forcedeth loaded.
[05:11] <desertfish> Can't resolve any IPs
[05:11] <starsky> elvis: rm -rf / > /dev/null
[05:11] <fbc> krazykit:  can you help me again
[05:11] <BenMcLean> I'm TRYING to install xubuntu
[05:11] <nibu> galera copmo eu fao pra rodar filmes em .mpg?
[05:11] <BenMcLean> and it won't boot to CD
[05:11] <kitche> nope: no since linux doesn't get those and when it does it's very little
[05:11] <tritium> starsky: please don't do that here
[05:11] <kitche> starsky: don't tell people to do that
[05:12] <Abst> elvis: Dont run that command
[05:12] <Dr_willis> nope,  time to read a few linux starters guides. :P   its not an issue with linux, like it is windows.
[05:12] <seadoo18> lol
[05:12] <seadoo18> windows is crap
[05:12] <elvis> thank u Abst
[05:12] <BenMcLean> wat will that command do?
[05:12] <tritium> !enter > seadoo18
[05:12] <Abst> Kill your entire system
[05:12] <BenMcLean> o rly
[05:12] <desertfish> anyone know how I can troubleshoot my problems with nforce2 ethernet?  Worked in Mandrive and windows :)
[05:12] <Abst> ya rly
[05:12] <kitche> BenMcLean: it's like a quick format
[05:12] <BenMcLean> at least with windows, your system is already dead
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> kitche
[05:13] <harisund> Does anybody have any experience setting up VPN server on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <fbc> kitche:  can you help me with a problem_
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> where im supposed to put all of that
[05:13] <BenMcLean> ANYWAY
[05:13] <Dr_willis> desertfish,  try a live cd.. if it works.. note what module its loading.. see if ubuntu is loading the same module.
[05:13] <BenMcLean> floppy boot disk image
[05:13] <BenMcLean> anyone?
[05:13] <nope> yea im a nooob. but im trying to get something more secure than windows XP
[05:13] <kitche> yes SuperMigue1?
[05:13] <Abst> Anyone know how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27178/
[05:13] <Jia> ?
[05:13] <desertfish> Dr_willis: brilliant.  Will do!
[05:13] <Abst> nope: Ubuntu is secure..
[05:13] <infonomic> kitche: tritium: timfrost:  I get the same behaviour with Xubuntu...
[05:13] <nope> im on Damn Small Linux live cd as we speak
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> how can i make sql run locally?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> nope,  Linux is more secure then XP.
[05:13] <kitche> nope I make Windows Xp secure get rid of all the junk in it :)
[05:13] <nope> so ive heard
[05:13] <fbc> can someone help me with a config problem?
[05:13] <kitche> SuperMigue1: install mysql
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> i did
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> and then?
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> how do i change the passowrd locally?
[05:14] <pdurph> can anyone help with a cups problem?
[05:14] <kitche> SuperMigue1: then you have to make sure the initscript is started chmod +x
[05:14] <pdurph> i can print locally but not from a Mac OS X client
[05:14] <BenMcLean> Hey
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> what is that mean?
[05:14] <nope> my dad uses ebay all the time but dosent really feel safe with all his credit card shit on there ya know?
[05:14] <kismet_> how bad is this? on running fsck, it says an "Inode XXXX has illegal block(s). Clear<y>?" What happens if it clears it?
[05:14] <tritium> language, please, nope
[05:15] <nope> sorry sir
[05:15] <infonomic> kitche: I need to be a hero right now... My kids need to see printing work under Dapper to move away from Win-Dos'nt...
[05:15] <BenMcLean> nobodys paying attention to my question :( ...
[05:15] <timfrost> elvis, if you need the kernel headers, then run 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' as well as installing build-essential
[05:15] <Abst> nope: This has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[05:15] <BenMcLean> o well
[05:15] <fbc> can someone help me with a config problem?
[05:15] <kitche> SuperMigue1: initscripts are the the files that start daemons and such in linux
[05:15] <Abst> !ask
[05:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:15] <grndslm> infonomic, what kinda printer?
[05:15] <fbc> I installed my laptop with my broadcomm wireless card tunr off so it never got detected. How do I get it to recognize it after I enable it?
[05:15] <Abst> !wireless
[05:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:15] <nope> yeas well im trying to convince him to switch to ubuntu or er.... xubuntu
[05:15] <kitche> fbc: just do a ifconfig <device name> up
[05:15] <tritium> elvis: you _don't_ need kernel headers
[05:16] <BenMcLean> YEah heres my question: "Virtual PC won't boot to the xubutndu install CD - can i get a floppy disk image somewhere that will then goto the CD so I can start isntalling ?"
[05:16] <fbc> !wireless
[05:16] <elvis> no,i needn't the kernel headers,i just need standard c/c++ headers
[05:16] <kitche> BenMcLean: did you mount the drive under Virtual PC?
[05:16] <BenMcLean> yeah
[05:16] <BenMcLean> None of the install guides talk about htis
[05:16] <tritium> elvis: right.  Again, install build-essential
[05:16] <BenMcLean> And I also changed the boot order in the BIOS so that it's CD first
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> server@server:~$ sudo mysqladmin -h localhost -u root password 0605623
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[05:16] <BenMcLean> no change
[05:17] <elvis> thank u ,i'll have a try
[05:17] <Dr_willis> BenMcLean,  Virtual PC. eww. ;p if it can read Vmware images. theres those you can download.. or ya may want to try vmware instead.
[05:17] <kitche> SuperMigue1: yeah you probably have to reset the root password in MySQL
[05:17] <Abst> SuperMigue1: sudo mysqladmin -h localhost -u root -p
[05:17] <JavaDeveloper_> How do you run a command line program that you can put it into background and even you close the terminal, your program is still running? is it command &1?
[05:17] <SuperMigue1> abst and then
[05:17] <nope> on ubuntu, what if you wanted to edit a MS word document for school or something, can you do it?
[05:17] <Abst> JavaDeveloper_: nohup <command> &
[05:17] <Dr_willis> JavaDeveloper_,  use &, and the exit command to close the shell - do NOT hit the close button.
[05:18] <tritium> nope: yes, with OpenOffice
[05:18] <Abst> SuperMigue1: It should ask for a password
[05:18] <SuperMigue1> it didnt
[05:18] <nope> i hates beings a noob...:(
[05:18] <Abst> Dunno then
[05:18] <Dr_willis> JavaDeveloper_,  or use nohup, or screen.
[05:18] <tritium> screen is nice
[05:18] <JavaDeveloper_> alright...thanks a lot guys...
[05:18] <desertfish> tritium: speaking of screen... how do you scroll up the buffer?
[05:18] <kitche> SuperMigue1: type help and see what it outputs but do you have a line that says <sql or soemthign like that haven't used mysql cli in a while
[05:18] <nope> what about um powerpoint?
[05:18] <kitche> nope: Open Office
[05:19] <Dr_willis> nope,  google for openoffice.. its out for widnows as well. :P its worth learning about.
[05:19] <nope> so pretty much MS office
[05:19] <caminomaster> hello
[05:19] <nope> but for linux
[05:19] <tritium> nope: all the MS Office formats, yes
[05:19] <SuperMigue1> is not letting me connect to local host
[05:19] <Dr_willis> nope,  its not just for linux
[05:19] <nope> ok thats cool
[05:19] <elvis> tritium,succeed! thank u very much
[05:19] <tritium> desertfish: page up?
[05:19] <tritium> elvis: :)
[05:19] <kitche> SuperMigue1: might have to do this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[05:20] <kitche> SuperMigue1: it's half way down the page for linux
[05:20] <effie_jayx> SuperMiguel: I can guide you throough....
[05:20] <rdouglas> I have a SUSE ?
[05:20] <fbc> My network card seems to be set to eth1 how do <i make it say ath0, like the wireless tutorial says it should. or is it ok_
[05:20] <rdouglas> for Novell 6.5
[05:20] <nope> when the pc im using(low-end) was running XP; any video was chunky. will ubuntu fix that?
[05:20] <kitche> fbc: it's ok
[05:21] <kitche> rdouglas: join #suse
[05:21] <kitche> nope: depends on ram and such
[05:21] <rdouglas> Kool...
[05:21] <rdouglas> TY
[05:21] <fbc> kitche:  It not activating..
[05:21] <nope> ram;124m
[05:21] <Dr_willis> nope,  you could go get a Linux Live CD. and test it out. :)
[05:21] <kitche> fbc: do ifconfig eth1 up then dhcpcd eth1
[05:21] <nope> i do
[05:21] <nope> im using DSL
[05:22] <kitche> fbc: then do ifconfig and see if it gave you an ip
[05:22] <caminomaster> I was connected through a proxy, but not now. Then, despite I set synaptic to "direct conection" again, doesn't connect actualization manager
[05:22] <Dr_willis> nope,  DSL is a nice minimal disrto.. Puppylinux is also nice. works great on old smaller machines.
[05:22] <fbc> kitche:  it says permission denied
[05:22] <tritium> fbc: /etc/iftab can specify interface names, and map them to MAC addresses
[05:22] <kitche> fbc: use sudo ifconfig
[05:22] <infonomic> kitche: I've read the CUPS docs, several threads found. The problem seem to be a bug for Dapper
[05:22] <Jia> Hi, friends! How can I join a IRC server with SSL? I'm using xchat.
[05:22] <nope> i have a ubuntu cd but it just sits there...:(
[05:23] <nope> so im trying xubuntu soon
[05:23] <SurfnKid> fbc, are you trying to get the interface name changed?
[05:23] <kitche> Jia: you connect to the SSL port
[05:23] <SurfnKid> do it with iftab but you have to restart
[05:23] <fbc> SurfnKid:  just trying to get it working
[05:24] <kitche> fbc: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[05:24] <SurfnKid> oh ok
[05:24] <Aoirthoir> Howdy
[05:24] <kitche> fbc: see if it brings it up
[05:24] <Manyfold> tritium: it's gconfd that takes so long
[05:24] <fbc> kitche: it said no such file or dir when I did that.
[05:24] <kitche> fbc: then eth1 is not what your device is called then
[05:24] <SuperMigue1> how can i kill my sql server?
[05:24] <Manyfold> tritium:what can i do about it?
[05:24] <fbc> kitche:  is there any way to make it search for new devices_
[05:25] <nope> on ubuntu, what would be the minimal ram to succesfully stream videos?
[05:25] <tritium> Manyfold: not sure, as what you're experiencing has not been happening with other users.  Which install image did you use?
[05:25] <kitche> nope for a gui atleast 256 anymore might run on 128 mb also depends on the system really
[05:25] <BenMcLean> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ME THE IMAGE OF ONE OF THESE KINDA FLOPPIES? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[05:25] <Manyfold> tritium: install image?
[05:25] <BenMcLean> Or show me where to download one - that works too
[05:26] <Manyfold> tritium: you mean the install cd dapper
[05:26] <kitche> fbc: well your device might be ath0
[05:26] <tritium> Manyfold: yes, which release?  There were problems with 6.06, so they released 6.06.1, which you should use.
[05:26] <nope> haha kitche im on a compaq presario 5170 pentium 2 w/ 124m ram
[05:26] <fbc> kitche:  it said no such device
[05:26] <jmark> anyone know how to apt-get kernel-source in ubuntu?
[05:26] <BenMcLean> people ? please somebody ?
[05:26] <jmark> I can't seem to get it to work?
[05:27] <yarddog> jmark, which version?
[05:27] <kitche> fbc: well you need to find out what your device is called but try System->Networking
[05:27] <BenMcLean> i can accept DCC sneds through IRC if that would make it easier
[05:27] <jmark> 2.6.15-27-386
[05:27] <tritium> BenMcLean: you can make your own grub floppy, you know
[05:28] <BenMcLean> don't you need linux ?
[05:28] <BenMcLean> or something?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> jmark: apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[05:28] <yarddog> jmark, , try sudo apt-get install linux-386 ?
[05:28] <fbc> kitche: it said the wireless interface eth1 is not active
[05:28] <infonomic> tritium: any more ideas to get prn working???
[05:28] <BenMcLean> and i don't really want the floppy itself - i want the image of the floppy
[05:28] <Manyfold> tritium: where can i see which release?
[05:28] <jmark> ok, trying now
[05:28] <nope> mod question- could you take a ram chip and solder it in the place of my current ram chip?
[05:28] <kitche> fbc: ok you can go to properties then active
[05:28] <BenMcLean> see, I don't have linux
[05:28] <BenMcLean> I need the boot CD so i can install linux
[05:28] <BenMcLean> er,
[05:28] <BenMcLean> boot floppy
[05:28] <nope> like from a mp3 player or something?
[05:28] <BenMcLean> i have the CD image
[05:28] <jmark> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-27-386
[05:29] <BenMcLean> i need a boot floppy image
[05:29] <jmark> am I missing a repository?
[05:29] <BenMcLean> because MicroBorg Virtual PC won't boot to the CD, stupid thing
[05:29] <tritium> do you recall where you downloaded it from?  You could also check it's md5sum against the two releases
[05:29] <yarddog> jmark, try sudo apt-get install linux-386 ?
[05:29] <desertfish> hm.  So here's the deal.  If I `/etc/init.d/networking restart` everything seems OK.  Is it possible to do the hardware driver loading during init BEFORE the networking services are started?
[05:29] <fbc> kitche:  it pretends to activate it, but It can never see any APs and I got an active one right next to me.
[05:29] <BenMcLean> i'll do that i guess
[05:29] <Manyfold> tritium: isn't there a version string somewhere?
[05:30] <nope> thanks for your help dudes
[05:30] <jmark> yarddog: that give me restricted modules
[05:30] <tritium> Manyfold: on the CD, or the installed system?
[05:30] <jmark> is that what I want?
[05:30] <kitche> fbc: well you have to fill in that information also unless you want it to use any
[05:30] <Manyfold> tritium: installed system
[05:30] <tritium> Manyfold: lsb_release -a
[05:30] <yarddog> jmark, that should be the entire kernel
[05:30] <Manyfold> tritium: something like uname -a
[05:30] <Manyfold> or such
[05:30] <tritium> Manyfold: uname -a is for the kernel
[05:30] <infonomic> tritium: kitche: I need to get prnt wrkng.... can you guys help...???
[05:31] <timfrost> jmark: do you need the source, or just the headers?
[05:31] <tritium> infonomic: you went through System->Administration->Printing?
[05:31] <Manyfold> tritium: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[05:31] <jmark> timfrost: trying to do an nvidia install, and it needs the source files for my kernel
[05:31] <fbc> kitche:  it doesn really activate it t just says it does, because when I close that windows, and go back to it, it says INACTIVE:
[05:31] <tritium> Manyfold: good
[05:31] <Manyfold> tritium: not good
[05:31] <jmark> for some reason my open source driver crapped out on me
[05:31] <tritium> Manyfold: after install, did you do any updating/upgrading of packages?
[05:32] <kitche> fbc: yeah think that's a bug in Ubuntu since it did it to mine but when I didn't reopen the networking manager it worked
[05:32] <yarddog> jmark, what processor are you using?
[05:32] <jmark> 64bit
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: ping
[05:32] <jmark> but I installed 32bit ubuntu
[05:32] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: pong
[05:32] <Manyfold> tritium: x server is ok no probs with the hardware it's only when i log in and it's only when gconfd is running everything else is fine
[05:33] <infonomic> tritium: yes but still not working...
[05:33] <tritium> Manyfold: I understand that.  How about the answer to my question?
[05:33] <Manyfold> tritium: of course i installed linux-image-k7
[05:33] <tritium> infonomic: which printer?
[05:33] <fbc> kitche:  if there any way of forcing it to redetect hardware_
[05:33] <ForceTen> if anyone has a second I have a question i have not been able to resolve in the ubuntu forums ....  Question is this ...since upgrading to Edgy Eft I no longer can use my wireless nic in my laptop... it is not in /etc/network/interfaces  I did configure the interface into the interfaces file but could not ping the gateway from the wireless nic.  now my eth0 interface works fine as i am on the net now with my laptop...thanks
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: Wondering how you keep the ubuntulog files separated by day.  Is that a script/cronjob kind of setup?  I'd like to do the same, not for public logs, but just organizing mine.
[05:33] <Manyfold> tritium: installed nvidia-glx
[05:33] <tritium> Manyfold: yes, but did you update/upgrade packages?
[05:33] <fbc> kitche: ?
[05:33] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: logrotate
[05:33] <kitche> fbc: um there might be not sure if ubuntu has that feature
[05:33] <Manyfold> tritium: installed linux-restricted-modules
[05:33] <tritium> Manyfold: if not, please try doing so to get the latest/greatest
[05:34] <desertfish> can someone tell me how to list available packages (e.g., anything that matches 'ssh') using apt-get?
[05:34] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware_
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: No way...just install and away we go?  That easy?
[05:34] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:34] <jmark> apt-cache search ssh
[05:34] <tritium> Manyfold: i.e., "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[05:34] <infonomic> tritium: add print in gnome-app does nada
[05:34] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: you need to confgure it to do the right thing.
[05:34] <caminomaster> Hi. Where can I configure actualization manager to connect without a proxy? I've set synaptic to direct connection but don't connect...
[05:34] <tritium> infonomic: which printer?
[05:34] <fabbione> logrotate is already on your syste
[05:34] <infonomic> tritium: DJ-450C, parallesl
[05:35] <Manyfold> tritium: my system is up to date
[05:35] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: I assume the manpage shall cover that.  Anyway, awesome; thanks.
[05:35] <tritium> Manyfold: okay, I'm out of ideas, other than searching for bugs reported against gconfd
[05:35] <desertfish> THANK YOU jmark
[05:35] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: or check in /etc/logrotate for some examples
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Cool
[05:35] <Aoirthoi1> How all..I am back
[05:35] <Aoirthoi1> :)
[05:36] <Manyfold> tritium: my system is up to date
[05:36] <timfrost> jmark, you may find that you actually only need the headers. try installing linux-headers-$(uname -r), then try rebuilding the nvidia driver.
[05:36] <Manyfold> tritium: where to search?
[05:36] <mighty_falcon> does amarok not support network shares?
[05:36] <Aoirthoi1> If anyone has time Ive a couple of questions (broke my system)
[05:36] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:36] <tritium> jmworx: why are you not using the ubuntu packages?
[05:36] <infonomic> tritium: HP is very well supprtd under Dapper... nt sure what to chk nxt...???
[05:36] <tritium> !repeat > fbc
[05:36] <tritium> infonomic: right, it should "just work"
[05:36] <mathieu_> hibernation is failing and I don't know why, just purchased a new laptop
[05:37] <mighty_falcon> anyone know if there is any way to add a network share in amarok?
[05:37] <tritium> mathieu_: do you have a swap partition?
[05:37] <fbc> tritium:  what does that mean?
[05:37] <infonomic> tritium: but it does not and I've seen other with same symptoms on the net...
[05:37] <tritium> fbc: it means ubotu should send you a message about repeating
[05:37] <mathieu_> tritium: yes and it is activated
[05:37] <mathieu_> tritium: and it is 2 gigs and i only have 750mb ram
[05:38] <tritium> mathieu_: hmm...
[05:38] <infonomic> Is the symptom i'm exprncg a bug???
[05:38] <tritium> infonomic: it comes up in my printer setup utility
[05:38] <pluto> Hello.  How can I detect the make & model of my sound card?
[05:38] <tritium> infonomic: you select HP, and search for it?
[05:39] <timfrost> jmark, is there a reason for not using the nvidia driver that is packaged with Ubuntu ( nvidia-glx 1.0.8762 for dapper)
[05:39] <infonomic> I see the driver but: get ho no_device_found and no printerdetctd
[05:40] <fbc> Does anyone know where I can find someone who knows of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:40] <tritium> fbc: what's the issue?
[05:40] <jmworx> tritium: why am I not using what?
[05:40] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I need a little help. I've just set dapper up on a new machine with an atheros based wifi card. I can connect to my network and ping objects on the lan and out of the lan but I'm not getting any dns resolution. The interfaces and resolv.conf file are identical to the one on this system (xubuntu). What could be the problem?
[05:40] <tritium> jmworx: sorry, wrong nick, due to tab completion
[05:40] <fbc> tritium: I need to have it detect my wireless card.. It was disabled during installation.
[05:40] <tritium> fbc: you don't need to re-detect hardware.  Is it enabled now?
[05:41] <fbc> tritium:  yes
[05:41] <tritium> fbc: okay, does iwconfig list it?
[05:41] <fbc> tritium:  standby
[05:41] <tritium> fbc: operators are standing by
[05:41] <Aoirthoi1> tritium...im having a similar issue
[05:41] <fbc> tritium:  yes it lists it..
[05:42] <fbc> tritium:  broadcom 4318
[05:42] <tritium> fbc: cool, you're in business.  Now, you can configure it with the gui tool, or via command line.  Your choice.
[05:42] <tritium> !wireless
[05:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:42] <tritium> Aoirthoi1: see URL above
[05:42] <Aoirthoi1> I tried to get my wifi up..and it seemed to recognized..but I had wired eth0 set to static ip..so I thought that was the cause of the wifi not working and deleted all settings in my lan sections
[05:42] <infonomic> tritium: I see no /dev/lp0...lp2 and even if I tr to MAKEDEV them they dont seem to work (pmssns are ok)
[05:42] <desertfish> Damnit.  I can't get leases from my DHCP server.
[05:42] <tritium> infonomic: don't be running makedev.
[05:42] <Aoirthoi1> going there now...but now I cant even sudu
[05:43] <desertfish> (my other OSes have no problem) :)
[05:43] <tritium> infonomic: again I ask you, do you select HP, and then search for your model?  What happens?
[05:43] <infonomic> tritium: why not??? I have missing /de/lp* files....
[05:43] <baxter_kylie> Aoirthoil: it's sudO
[05:43] <baxter_kylie> (little 'o')
[05:43] <Aoirthoi1> baxter thats a type but yes I know
[05:43] <desertfish> and a whole lotta sud
[05:43] <fbc> tritium:  the networking tool in ubunto wont do it is there something else_
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> hello wverybody I wanna know whic one manager of wireless o Lan is better??
[05:43] <fbc> tritium: ?
[05:44] <bluefox83> !multimedia
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[05:44] <tritium> fbc: you may need to use ndiswrapper.  She the wiki page for details
[05:44] <tritium> infonomic: just answer please
[05:44] <Aoirthoi1> when I type sudo I get the msg: sudo: unable to lookup joe-nb via gethostbyname()
[05:44] <rdouglas> :-)
[05:45] <desertfish> is there something like a network config utility (command line)
[05:45] <Aoirthoi1> (joe-nb is the hostname on my laptop..but as I said I deleted all network settings without realizing what I had done)
[05:45] <baxter_kylie> desertfish: There are the files related to network in /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/hosts
[05:45] <bluefox83> !restricted formats
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <infonomic> tritium: search for model find it in HP list, suggest HPLIP, apply but no printr added
[05:45] <tritium> infonomic: udev creates and removes device nodes in /dev when hardware is discovered or removed from your system.  Don't be so sure you're mising /dev/lp*
[05:45] <grndslm> infonomic, is there a /dev/usblp0?
[05:46] <baxter_kylie> desertfish: you can also reset your network with the command /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:46] <fbc> tritium:  the wiki tells me the ndiswrapper is the defunct method, as dapper now has it build in..
[05:46] <baxter_kylie> desertfish: other commands include ifup, ifdown, ifconfig, iwconfig, and iwlist
[05:46] <wastrel> Aoirthoi1:  you'll need to boot into rescue mode and fix the /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts  files
[05:46] <bieb> has anyone configured a Dell DJ30 (ipod like) with Ubuntu?
[05:46] <grndslm> infonomic, what kinda hp is it?
[05:46] <fbc> tritium: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[05:46] <fbc>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[05:46] <fbc>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:46] <fbc>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[05:46] <fbc>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[05:46] <kitche> grndslm: it's parallel printer from what he said just so you know :)
[05:46] <fbc>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:46] <tritium> fbc: yes, that should be true. Ack, please don't paste.
[05:47] <grndslm> ahh...nevermind
[05:47] <desertfish> thank you, baxter_kylie.  those files are useful.  Resetting my networking isn't getting me a valid DHCP lease, so I'm going to try to manually configure an IP address
[05:47] <tritium> fbc, infonomic: sorry, I have to get going.
[05:47] <Geoffrey2> anyone know if the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat reader will work under Wine?
[05:47] <fbc> tritium: ok thanks.
[05:47] <Aoirthoi1> wastrel rebooting now:)
[05:47] <tritium> Geoffrey2: there is an ubuntu package
[05:47] <kitche> fbc: do sudo ifconfig essid <yourAP essid>
[05:47] <Aoirthoi1> ok is that the same as recovery mode?
[05:47] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: May I ask why you would want to do that?
[05:47] <tritium> fbc: try installing network-manager-gnome
[05:47] <wastrel> yes
[05:48] <desertfish> oh, jeezis.  this 'interfaces' thing is quite robust
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> tritium, yes, I know....but apparently there are some features that the Linux version doesn't support
[05:48] <fbc> tritium:  ok
[05:48] <tritium> Geoffrey2: maybe so
[05:48] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: which?
[05:48] <infonomic> tritium: grndslm: no /dev/usblp* found
[05:48] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it's almost the same application
[05:48] <Aoirthoi1> Thanks Wastrel..coming up in recovery mode now
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, in particular, the ability to fill in documents and then save the changes
[05:49] <starsky> ***Ubuntu is the best****
[05:49] <infonomic> grndslm: any clue on wht's going south???
[05:49] <michael___> !nonfree codecs
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <kitche> Geoffrey2: umm Reader doesn't do that anyways not even in Windows sine it can only Read pdf's
[05:49] <Aoirthoi1> ok I am there.. /etc/hostname has the name of my notebook (joe-nb)
[05:49] <Geoffrey2> kitche, in Windows, yes it does
[05:50] <Aoirthoi1> I assume that is correct?
[05:50] <fbc> tritium:  I installed it but where do I find it__
[05:50] <michael___> !codecs
[05:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <starsky> !evince
[05:50] <ubotu> evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[05:50] <baxter_kylie> Anyone have *any* idea whatsoever why I wouldn't be getting dns resolution?
[05:50] <infonomic> !printers
[05:50] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:50] <starsky> !lpr
[05:50] <ubotu> lpr: BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2005.05.01 (dapper), package size 111 kB, installed size 404 kB
[05:51] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: that is correct.  But is there a line with that name in /etc/hosts?
[05:51] <fbc> kitche:  where do I find the netwrok-managergnome?? it didn seem to make an icon..
[05:52] <Aoirthoi1> timfrost no..I just did a search on the forums and came up with this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273344&highlight=%2Fetc%2Fhosts
[05:52] <kitche> Geoffrey2: yeah I see it know but linux version does the same thing so why waste RAm on Wine
[05:52] <Aoirthoi1> So I am assuming I have to have a line like that in order to sudo aetc?
[05:52] <wasabi_> Geoffrey2 is correct. Adobe Reader on Windows lets you edit fields.
[05:52] <wasabi_> And fill in forms.
[05:52] <wasabi_> And hit buttons.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> And cure cancer.
[05:52] <kitche> Geoffrey2: but the form has to be able to do that to save what you type in
[05:52] <wasabi_> Never ever seen a reason to ever use that. Even on windows.
[05:52] <kitche> fbc: Systems
[05:52] <ianmacgregor> fbc: System -> Administration -> Networking?
[05:53] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: I occasionally use it to clear up melanoma.
[05:53] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: yes.
[05:53] <baxter_kylie> I like dark suntans. ;-)
[05:53] <wasabi_> And no, Evince does not support it. Evince is a document viewer, not a web browser.
[05:53] <utnubu> for ubuntu after doing su how do you get back out of su?
[05:53] <starsky> everyone compare it. acroread is no competition for evince. Evince *is* the fastest pdf reader you can get for Gnu/Linux
[05:53] <Aoirthoi1> thanks Timfrost and wastrel
[05:54] <ianmacgregor> utnubu: type: exit
[05:54] <ArrenLex> starsky: kpdf.
[05:54] <Aoirthoi1> going to give it a try now
[05:54] <wasabi_> Adobe does release a native LInux version of their reader software.
[05:54] <utnubu> thanks
[05:54] <wasabi_> Dunno how good it is though. It used to be very poor.
[05:54] <wasabi_> It's also closed
[05:54] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: good luck
[05:54] <starsky> ArrenLex: do some calculations. you'll see what I'm talking about.
[05:54] <fbc> kitche:  Is there another network mamanger I can try that might work with my card_
[05:55] <kitche> fbc: don't know I only use ifconfig myself
[05:55] <ArrenLex> starsky: they're based on the same backend -- poppler. That means render speed is the same. kpdf is faster because it is more integrated into a qt system than evince is into a gtk system, and because kpdf is written in c++, as is poppler, whereas evince is written and c and has to use code to interface with poppler.
[05:55] <baxter_kylie> Anyone... dns resolution issues... ? Madwifi? Is there a special client module I'm supposed to have? Was madwifi supposed to be compiled with a certain flag?
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> so, am I correct that the Linux version of Adobe Reader does NOT let you edit fields?  or is something on my version just not set up properly?
[05:56] <starsky> kpdf, will have it's own bottlenecks because it needs kdelibs
[05:56] <kitche> baxter_kylie: make sure your card is active and dhcpcd
[05:56] <wasabi_> ArrenLex: There's no measurable speed thing moving from C to C++.
[05:56] <Aoirthoi1> ok Ive changed it so I assume just a reboot is in order?
[05:56] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it does let you edit fields
[05:56] <baxter_kylie> kitche: It's a static network. Card is active. I can ping lan and wan objects successfully.
[05:56] <starsky> btw, gnome is the wm of choice for ubuntu <winks>
[05:56] <ArrenLex> KDE is life.
[05:57] <kitche> baxter_kylie: have you set up /etc/resolv.conf correctly
[05:57] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: yes.
[05:57] <Aoirthoi1> Thanks again Timfrost...rebooting
[05:57] <baxter_kylie> kitche: Yup. It's a direct copy/past resolv.conf from /this/ machine.
[05:57] <wasabi_> Geoffrey2: You mean Adobe's Reader, from Adobe's web site? Or do you mean Evince?
[05:57] <Aoirthoi1> I only have one ethernet cable (for some reason my others went bad on me) so after the reboot I might switch cables and see if I can get the eth0 going again
[05:58] <DaveyJ> quick question.. whats the kde equiv for init.d's gdm
[05:58] <wasabi_> kdm
[05:58] <DaveyJ> to stop the service
[05:58] <DaveyJ> kdm! i'm an idiot!
[05:58] <DaveyJ> thanks lol :)
[05:58] <wasabi_> LAWL!
[05:58] <joeCoT> hey kids
[05:58] <kitche> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acrruserguide.pdf read that it says the you can edit the fields and save them only if the form allows it
[05:58] <rexkwando> What would be some symptoms of a motherboard going terminal?
[05:59] <Aoirthoi1> aha that got me to the networking information
[05:59] <Aoirthoi1> so I can sudo again..thanks tim
[05:59] <Madpilot> rexkwando, random crashes & freezing?
[05:59] <omkarenator> problems on sata hdd
[05:59] <Geoffrey2> Adobe's reader...ok, then something isn't set up right on mine, because I keep getting an error message about a plug-in not being available
[05:59] <omkarenator> ubuntu cannot detect partitions on my sata hdd
[06:00] <omkarenator> can anyone help?
[06:00] <Aoirthoi1> ok changing cables...going to the laptop so brb
[06:00] <wasabi_> Geoffrey2: Did you install Adobe's reader, from Adobe's web site?
[06:00] <wasabi_> Oh looks like we've got it in multiverse.
[06:00] <starsky> Davey3: if you are talking about the display manager then it's kdm
[06:00] <wasabi_> acroread.
[06:01] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: First start up parted on the drive device... parted /dev/sd[] 
[06:01] <wasabi_> acroread-plugins
[06:01] <rexkwando> Madpilot:  yup, I was afraid of that
[06:01] <starsky> acroread has so many bo!. don't use it.
[06:01] <wasabi_> acroread is going to be the thing that supporst PDF forms.
[06:01] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: Then use the 'print' command to see what is printed out in the partition tables
[06:01] <wasabi_> evince most certainly does not.
[06:01] <starsky> :)
[06:01] <wasabi_>  If you need to complete fillable forms, you will need to install the
[06:01] <wasabi_>  acroread-plugins package.
[06:01] <wasabi_> ^ from the package description
[06:01] <Jia> 
[06:02] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: If parted finds your partitions and their filesystems then it's probably a mount issue.
[06:02] <epp> I have a lenovo thinkpad z60m. I run winecfg and when i click on the audio tab the gui freezes. No sound works in my games run with wine... what can i do?
[06:02] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: if parted does not find your partitions then either the drive is bad or the partition tables are just screwed.
[06:03] <omkarenator> yeah , u know in device manager i can see the partitions but gparted isnt showing them
[06:03] <starsky> wasabi_: forms are coming soon to evince. http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Forms
[06:04] <wasabi_> Nifty.
[06:04] <omkarenator> i even mounted partitions using mount
[06:04] <omkarenator> but gparted is showing them as unallocated
[06:05] <Aoirthoir> Timfrost and Wastrel, thanks again, you got me back up.
[06:05] <Aoirthoir> Thought I was going to have to reinstall
[06:05] <omkarenator> where does the device manager get its information?
[06:05] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: I'm not interested in gparted... I don't usually trust the gui tools.
[06:05] <ianmacgregor> I'm getting a weird error from nautilus: http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9060/httperrorvn3.jpg Why is this error happening?
[06:05] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: just run old-school parted and use the print command
[06:06] <omkarenator> but isn't it the only tool available for install
[06:06] <ArrenLex> ianmacgregor: because nautlius is not a browser?
[06:06] <Aoirthoir> I will figure out how to do wireless another day:)
[06:06] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: what tool? are you in the gui installation or text mode?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> ianmacgregor: if you want a file manager which doubles as a browser, you want konqueror =P
[06:06] <rexkwando> I'll just be bubbling along, connected to the 'net and suddenly, my wifi card will just stop, lights out.  Rebbot, and it's back again, but it's happening more frequently lately and my sound locked into a loop yesterday that required a hard reboot.  So, that's probably a dying mobo, right?
[06:06] <omkarenator> gui
[06:06] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: you can just open a terminal window
[06:06] <Geoffrey2> wasabi_, thanks, that took care of it
[06:06] <ianmacgregor> ArrenLex: I realise that, but since it can do ftp and ssh I just figured it would call gnome open and launch Firefox.
[06:07] <ianmacgregor> ArrenLex: KDE? Heh, no thanks.
[06:07] <omkarenator> yea
[06:07] <wasabi_> ianmacgregor: ftp and ssh are things you can browse like a folder.
[06:07] <ArrenLex> KDE is life. >=|
[06:07] <wasabi_> ianmacgregor: A web page isn't.
[06:07] <wasabi_> (unless it
[06:07] <ianmacgregor> wasabi_: Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks
[06:07] <wasabi_> 's web dav)
[06:07] <baxter_kylie> *throws another line* Anyone want to help a fella with some STRANGE dns issues?
[06:07] <omkarenator> what if i see ptns , what next, how to proceed form thereon in text mode
[06:07] <mallorie> question...the best file sharing program that is a easy install???
[06:08] <LinuXubuntu> Hello you all people! I have a little doubt: why do I unistall samba? (I used apt-get install samba to install it)
[06:08] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: well if the partitions appear and have filesystems you're probably in good shape and it's just a matter of mounting.
[06:08] <enyawix> the cd will not boot on my system. can i install from inside debian somhow
[06:09] <omkarenator> where do i mount ptns ?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> enyawix,  did you burn this cd yourself?
[06:09] <joeCoT> baxter_kylie: only if you help me build a working 64-bit iceweasel ;P
[06:09] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: whereever you want.
[06:09] <enyawix> Dr_willis yes
[06:09] <capt-rogers> i finally figured out the root user issue when using ubuntu.  just login using the standard user account you made during the install, then when your logged in 'sudo bash' (not suer if thats right, but thats what i use)
[06:09] <omkarenator> ok what after mounting ptns?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> enyawix,  and how did you burn it.. check the cd.. what files are on it..
[06:09] <enyawix> boots cd crashes
[06:09] <Syd_Barrett_> guys... good night... i would like to know if Ubuntu Dapper uses NPTL or Linux-Threads
[06:10] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: generall you just create an empty folder in /media or /mnt
[06:10] <Dr_willis> enyawix,  Hmm crashes where? first you said it dident boot.. now its crashing. :)
[06:10] <enyawix> sorry
[06:10] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: I'm still not certain what you want to do with this drive.
[06:10] <capt-rogers> any if anything goes wrong...press ESC during the grub menu and choose the RECOVER option...you logged in as root.
[06:10] <enyawix> i do not count a crash as a real boot
[06:11] <SuperMiguel> i just install an email server how can i use it?
[06:11] <baxter_kylie> joeCOT: It can't be that bad. You just get a 64 bit firefox source replace the artwork and trademarks and you're done... right?
[06:11] <enyawix> i hate the version of debian i have installed
[06:11] <cheesy> hi
[06:11] <omkarenator> i have a sata hdd, having 6 to 7 ptns, on which one is reiserfs and one swap (of prev disrto) I want ot install ubuntu on that reiserfs ptn
[06:12] <ArrenLex> Once movies came out with sound many actors/actresses such as VilmaBanky  were fired because they didnt have the voice that the producers wanted.
[06:12] <menko> Hi, how do I set keyboard shorcuts for menu items in nautilus permanently? I went over, e.g, show hidden files and changed it to , . When I log in again it's back to ctrl+H.
[06:12] <ArrenLex> ...
[06:12] <ArrenLex> that was totally the wrong window.
[06:12] <ArrenLex> Sorry. xD
[06:12] <omkarenator> but gparted isnt showing my ptns saying unallocated
[06:12] <whyso> could anyone possibly link me to a list of cool pachages
[06:12] <ClayG> what is the general thought on Edgy? is it stable enough to play with?
[06:12] <Dsbeerf> Hi, is there a way to see those flash they ask for flash 8 ? in ubuntu ?
[06:13] <joeCoT> baxter_kylie: I'm getting runtime errors when i'm using the Gnuzilla release, or using the firefox source tar with the gnuzilla cvs changes. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278869 i'm stumped. i emailed gnuzilla's mailing list about it
[06:13] <ianmacgregor> menko: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/KeyboardShortcuts
[06:13] <whyso> i tried edgy kubuntu clay and it totally crashed
[06:13] <cheesy> i want to have a partition with data used by ubuntu and win. what would be the best format?
[06:13] <Syd_Barrett_> guys... good night... i would like to know if Ubuntu Dapper uses NPTL or Linux-Threads
[06:13] <ArrenLex> cheesy: fat32
[06:13] <cheesy> kk
[06:13] <ianmacgregor> menko: You might also be interested in this: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/NautilusScripts
[06:13] <crimsun> Syd_Barrett_: latter.
[06:13] <menko> ianmacgregor: thanks, I'll look at that, and that as well.
[06:14] <Syd_Barrett_> crimsun, thanks :-)
[06:14] <crimsun> Syd_Barrett_: one of the first 'transitions' in Edgy was for NPTL.
[06:14] <cheesy> just read linux could read n write ntfs too
[06:14] <ianmacgregor> menko: You're welcome :)
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> I seem to have turned off the ability to display images in Thunderbird, and am not sure how it happened.
[06:14] <whyso> i think its risky to write to ntfs
[06:14] <cheesy> but the good ol' fat32 should be save :)
[06:14] <BelialMkII> cheesy, It can Write to ntfs, but from experience, its hardly reliable, fat32 is much safer
[06:14] <cheesy> k
[06:15] <cheesy> thanks for your help
[06:15] <BelialMkII> I did see a ext3 driver for nt/xp s well
[06:15] <omkarenator> baxter_kylie: r u there?
[06:15] <BelialMkII> but i think it was read only, cant remember offhand
[06:15] <cheesy> next thing i do is format c:
[06:15] <cheesy> good night
[06:15] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: It sounds like the partition table is not loved by gparted. I'd copy any necessary data off that drive to spare and use old-school parted to and mkfs to make a new partition table and set everything up with the right file system
[06:15] <enyawix> is a small iso offered like 100mb?
[06:15] <joeCoT> the ext3 drivers for windows are fine, using fuse for for ntfs writing works fine. worst thing i've seen happen is the file _not_writing and no changes being made. and it's fast
[06:16] <omkarenator> but how device manager is showing ptns?????????
[06:16] <joeCoT> and can handle higher than 4gb files (dvd rips?). I'd go with either ext3 or ntfs and just deal with the setup in windows or linux
[06:16] <omkarenator> and not gparted
[06:16] <host`> are you saying that using fuse won't do damage to the ntfs partition?
[06:16] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: I don't know. To be quite honest I've never had good luck with the gui installation cd. I'm a text-mode installer kid all the way.
[06:17] <BelialMkII> heh joe, last time i used an ntfs with writing on linux, i deleted a directory of irc logs (Loits of smal . mid sized files) few ours later put a video on it, rebooted never to be seeeing that partitionj again
[06:17] <Metalcore> I'm trying to configure the QT JACK control interface, and whenever i try to start the server, it says it can not connect to the Jack server as a client
[06:17] <joeCoT> The info i've seen on fuse says it's safe. I haven't tried it, your mileage may vary
[06:17] <omkarenator> yea i use slackware, which uses text mode for whatching movis
[06:17] <enyawix> ?
[06:17] <enyawix> joke
[06:18] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: Save yourself the heartache. Get the alternate install cd.
[06:18] <crimsun> Metalcore: you need to install jackd, too.
[06:18] <omkarenator> alternate install cd.??
[06:18] <enyawix> alternate install cd.??
[06:18] <enyawix> what is that
[06:18] <enyawix> url
[06:18] <Metalcore> crimsun, I already have.
[06:19] <joeCoT> text-mode install. it's the different iso
[06:19] <starsky_> omkarenator: parted /dev/[s-d] [a/b/c]  print ??? what was so hard about this?
[06:19] <enyawix> text-mode install. yes that is what i want
[06:19] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: If you've used slackware you'll be perfectly happy with that. It's, essentially, a text-mode installer.
[06:19] <enyawix> where is that
[06:19] <crimsun> Metalcore: dpkg -l jackd|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[06:19] <baxter_kylie> Right on the same page as the download links for the full isos.
[06:19] <mikey> can someone help me with my wireless connection
[06:20] <omkarenator> ok i will try txt mode and then i wil com eback
[06:20] <omkarenator> if failed, thank u
[06:20] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: Best of luck
[06:20] <Metalcore> crimsun: 0.100.0-4
[06:20] <Jia> I downloaded a .tar.gz file, which folder should I extract it to and install best?
[06:21] <mikey> i have a hawking HWP54G and i cannot connect to the internet with it
[06:21] <crimsun> Metalcore: pidof jackd
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> mikey why
[06:21] <Metalcore> 15062
[06:21] <Metalcore> man pidof
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> thanks for the help yall
[06:22] <Metalcore> oops. sorry bout that >_>
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> it is much appreciated
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> exit
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> er
[06:22] <Xaphoo> is there a gnome dictionary/thesaurus program like kdict ?\
[06:23] <Juhaz> gnome-dictionary?
[06:23] <wastrel> Xaphoo:  if you find out, let me know
[06:23] <mikey> i am new to ubuntu and i don't know how to make the wireless work
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> Juhaz: a dictionary is a book wher you can look for the meaning of a word
[06:23] <whyso> a cool feature for gnome would be a one line terninal that sits in  the top bar
[06:23] <Metalcore> crimsun: 15062
[06:24] <whyso> is there anything like that out there yet?
[06:24] <whyso> that way you could enter single commands without having to open terminal
[06:24] <Juhaz> SuperMiguel, I'm quite aware of dictionary definition of dictionary
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> Juhaz: you dont you make ** comments like dictionary :O whats that
[06:25] <crimsun> Metalcore: was jackd started by qjackctl, or did you start it prior (by hand)?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> is there a command to check how much memory my box is reading in the console?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> I need to make sure all my ram is registering
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> Xaphoo: would you like to use a web page?
[06:25] <wastrel> whyso:  there is one
[06:25] <wastrel> whyso:  deskbar applet
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> sure
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> Xaphoo: would you like to use a web page?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> just anything to check my hardware
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> def
[06:25] <AdamMK> i'm trying to share a folder over a home network to a windows comp, but when i try to access the folder on the windows comp, it asks me for a username and pass. i try putting in every1 i know but it still doesn't allow access. can i turn this off/fix it?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> yes
[06:26] <Xaphoo> I don't care, I was just wondering if there was anything as handy as a panel applet where I could look up the word
[06:26] <Xaphoo> I don't care what the output is like
[06:26] <whyso> thanks wastrel
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> AdamMK: add a new user and put it on samba, reboot samba and your computer
[06:26] <timthelion> hey. I managed to make it so that all gtk apps segfault emediatly. any clue how I would go about fixing this issue?
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> Xaphoo: will www.dictionary.com works?
[06:26] <bimberi> AdamMK: sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>  (sets up an account in Samba's password database)
[06:26] <Juhaz> Xaphoo, have you ever looked? there's "dictionary lookup applet" installed by default
[06:26] <mon^rch> is there a keystroke in xchat to show/hide the userlist???? (for some reason there isn't one)
[06:27] <bimberi> AdamMK: shouldn't need to restart anything
[06:27] <Juhaz> and deskbar can look up dictionary words too, if you want
[06:27] <Xaphoo> ah damn, that was dumb of me not to see that
[06:28] <Xaphoo> thanks :)
[06:28] <Xaphoo> sorry for cluttering the channel
[06:28] <astroboy> Any news on a release date for Edgy Eft ?
[06:28] <crimsun> !schedule > astroboy
[06:28] <bimberi> astroboy: Oct 26 is the target
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> !news
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <astroboy> Good, I can wait ..
[06:29] <ClayG> anyoner know anything about buying a hp dv6000 laptop and getting the cheap one but later adding/replacing the cpu for a goodone? (as in better can you do this without soldering?")
[06:29] <AdamMK> thanks i'll try it
[06:29] <astroboy> crimsun: thanks.
[06:29] <bug_> hi.. does anyone know if the module (in modconf..) kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt250 will work with the nintendo usb wifi adapter? (or if the thing is supported in linux--i know that it is supported with ralink/"ral-rt2561" drivers in openbsd...)
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> !release
[06:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:30] <Metalcore> crimsun, it was started by qtjackctl
[06:31] <crimsun> Metalcore: I need verbose debug spew pastebinned.
[06:33] <GhostFreeman> !root
[06:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> !imbored
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imbored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <SuperMiguel> what can you do with a server
[06:34] <SuperMiguel> ?
[06:34] <foo> http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4900981 - I am going to buy this 19" widescreen. Should I be worried about ubuntu compatibility with fluxbox?
[06:34] <mikm[laptop] > host webpages, files
[06:35] <mikm[laptop] > have an email server
[06:35] <mikm[laptop] > Stream media
[06:35] <joeCoT> run a torrent, fold at home
[06:35] <SuperMiguel> when you install a email server how do you use it?
[06:35] <mikm[laptop] > Servers aren't needed for fold@home
[06:35] <joeCoT> milk: yeah, but it can't hurt :)
[06:36] <starsky> does launchpad go offline often ?
[06:36] <SuperMiguel> umm?
[06:36] <mikm[laptop] > True, but if it's going to be under load, installing unnecessary things like f@h, boinc, etc. isn't the best idea
[06:36] <mighty_falcon> is there any setting in beryl to hide ur menuar? i loged on and my meny bar (the bar with maximize, minimize etc) is complete gone, and even when i try to apply a new emerald theme nothing happens
[06:36] <mighty_falcon> menubar*
[06:36] <starsky> launchpad.net
[06:37] <SuperMiguel> beside web hosting any other good intersting thing about home servers?
[06:37] <mighty_falcon> no ne?
[06:37] <mighty_falcon> one*
[06:38] <wastrel> beryl is edgy isn't it?
[06:38] <mighty_falcon> nop
[06:38] <mikm[laptop] > beryl = compiz fork
[06:38] <wastrel> i mean it's in edgy
[06:39] <mikm[laptop] > No
[06:39] <mikm[laptop] > It's separate
[06:39] <david_> hi, my wireless card detects other networks, but I can't connect to anything
[06:40] <wastrel> cdrecord is barfing
[06:40] <SuperMiguel> beside web hosting any other good intersting thing about home servers?
[06:41] <joeCoT> um, myth tv server? general file server? print server? router? firewall?
[06:41] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: if you have a laptop you can set it up so it forwards connection details to your server every time it starts up... can help if it gets stolen...
[06:41] <SuperMiguel> what is an general file server
[06:42] <joeCoT> as in, a server to host files on the network
[06:42] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you put files on it. And then, when you need them, you get them back.
[06:42] <SuperMiguel> like ftp?
[06:42] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: add it to a compile farm? A render farm?
[06:42] <SuperMiguel> umm
[06:42] <SuperMiguel> anything else fun
[06:43] <wastrel> imap
[06:43] <joeCoT> lol. what do you expect out of the server?
[06:43] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you can put a cape on it and call it SuperComputer.
[06:43] <wastrel> music server - stream music off of it
[06:43] <SuperMiguel> i tried but the cape was to big so i wasnt able to see my computer
[06:44] <ArrenLex> Why am I not surprised?
[06:44] <SuperMiguel> cuze you know me
[06:44] <david_> anyone know about wireless?
[06:44] <SuperMiguel> i do
[06:44] <SuperMiguel> you dont use cables xD
[06:45] <omkarenator> baxter kylie: parted /dev/sda9 print , showed me my ptn as reiserfs
[06:45] <david_> my card can see access points, but can't connect
[06:45] <SuperMiguel> what card is it?
[06:45] <david_> even if the strength is reasonable
[06:45] <SuperMiguel> broadcon?
[06:45] <david_> awlh3025
[06:45] <david_> I believe it is TI chipset
[06:45] <omkarenator> that means its understanding ptn table
[06:45] <SuperMiguel> imm any wep key?
[06:46] <omkarenator> but how to tell ubuntu installer that install ubuntu on /dev/sda9
[06:46] <RagePrblm> Anyone awake
[06:46] <SuperMiguel> me
[06:46] <mighty_falcon> is there any setting in beryl to hide ur menuar? i loged on and my meny bar (the bar with maximize, minimize etc) is complete gone, and even when i try to apply a new emerald theme nothing happens
[06:46] <RagePrblm> Do you know what uname means in this sentence?
[06:46] <RagePrblm> sudo apt-get update
[06:46] <RagePrblm> err wrong sentence
[06:46] <omkarenator> baxter_kylie: ?
[06:46] <ArrenLex> There are 841 people in the channel right now, RagePrblm. Someone is bound to be awake.
[06:46] <RagePrblm> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:47] <david_> no wep key
[06:47] <RagePrblm> would I just paste that in, or is uname like my username
[06:47] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: sounds to me like beryl crashed. Can you run it manually?
[06:47] <mikm[laptop] > uname is a command
[06:47] <mikm[laptop] > paste it in directly
[06:47] <RagePrblm> oh ok
[06:47] <RagePrblm> thanks
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> uname is a command
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> lol
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> slow :(
[06:47] <ArrenLex> Now say "polly want a cracker".
[06:47] <david_> mighty_falcon: I have that problem also all the time
[06:48] <SuperMiguel> "polly want a cracker"
[06:48] <david_> mighty_falcon: type sudo killall gnome-panel
[06:48] <ArrenLex> Good boy!
[06:48] <mighty_falcon> even though im in kde?
[06:48] <omkarenator> how to install ubuntu in text mode using parted??? anybodY?
[06:48] <david_> mighty_falcon: oh, d'oh
[06:48] <david_> mighty_falcon: nvm.... i dunno how to do equiv in kde
[06:48] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: hmm nop cuz other then that everything is working just fiine here
[06:49] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: ad yes it did crash the first time once i rebooted so had to reboot again
[06:49] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: the equivalent to killall gnome-panel to KDE is killall kicker. I don't know how it will help you, though.
[06:49] <host`> how do I list the things that are running in order to kill them?
[06:49] <mighty_falcon> david_: :(
[06:49] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: once it crashed would i have to go through a pecial procedure?
[06:49] <omkarenator> ps
[06:49] <david_> mighty_falcon: didn't fix it?
[06:49] <lightspeedbiker> empty
[06:50] <david_> mighty_falcon: did you try what arren said?
[06:50] <Metalcore> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/808797
[06:50] <mighty_falcon> it killed everything along with the menu at the bottom
[06:50] <mighty_falcon> whats the shortcut to log off?
[06:50] <mighty_falcon> nvm got it, brb then :S
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> u do a su in terminal, and it askes for a password, i give it the password for the only account created on the ubuntu system.
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> and it says the password is wrong
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> forgot to finish that :-P
[06:51] <ArrenLex> CppIsWeird: su wants a root password. There is no root account for ubuntu. There is no right password you could ever give it. Use the "sudo" command.
[06:52] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: try passwd root first
[06:52] <CppIsWeird> thanks mon
[06:52] <mon^rch> er, sudo passwd root
[06:52] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: i installed superkaramba recently would that conflict with beryl?
[06:52] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: I don't see how, no.
[06:52] <omkarenator>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[06:53] <CppIsWeird> thanks lots mon
[06:53] <mighty_falcon> hmm and you do not know such an option that would disable this in beryl?
[06:53] <mon^rch> np CppIsWeird
[06:53] <host`> I'm getting an error when trying to uninstall something, it's saying that it's running and it won't kill it
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> Please enter the host name (e.g. www):server.example.com
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> Please enter the domain (e.g. xyz.de):http://example.com/
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> The URL is not reachable!
[06:53] <host`> how do I kill the process?
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> what is wrong there :S
[06:53] <mighty_falcon> well let me try this again lo off without superkaramba
[06:53] <omkarenator> baxter_kylie:r u there?
[06:54] <crimsun> Metalcore: pastebin.com is taking abnormally long to load
[06:54] <CppIsWeird> also, I seem to only have a max resolution of 800x600 (which is rather annoying). Any way to fix that?
[06:54] <ArrenLex> crimsun: pastebin.com always takes abnormally long to load. use pastebin.ca or ubuntu's pastebin
[06:54] <crimsun> ArrenLex: (yes, I know.)
[06:55] <ArrenLex> CppIsWeird: have you tried going into gnome display settings? If so, and it only offers you up to 800x600, you're going to have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and give yourself more resolutions.
[06:55] <david_> again, no ideas about wireless?
[06:55] <CppIsWeird> yeah, i waent into display properties
[06:55] <host`> wireless?
[06:55] <SuperMiguel> ti ti tio ta ta ta
[06:55] <david_> yea
[06:55] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: make sure you change youre video drivers... also reebooting works sometimes
[06:56] <david_> I can see networks, but I can't associate with any of them
[06:56] <CppIsWeird> oh, ok,
[06:56] <host`> david_, have you done /sudo iwconfig essid (essid)?
[06:56] <david_> yes
[06:56] <host`> david_, have you done '/sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (essid)'?
[06:56] <host`> oh
[06:56] <mon^rch> I get 640X480 sometimes without an updaated vid driver
[06:56] <host`> david_, did you set any wep encryption?
[06:56] <Metalcore> crimsun: well, here: http://pastebin.ca/207737
[06:56] <david_> host`: no
[06:57] <host`> did you do dhclient wlan0?
[06:57] <host`> or did you do ifup?
[06:57] <duckdown> Hey all, what package installs the binary "php" that you run from the command line?  I need it for a de-hexing tool
[06:57] <david_> host`: actually, ironically, this I live in mountain view, this is google wifi
[06:57] <duckdown> I've installed php5
[06:57] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: yes superkaramba did conflict
[06:57] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: all good now
[06:58] <weex> anyone had some luck installing yahoo messenger on dapper?
[06:58] <david_> host`: i was looking on the forums and there was someone in a similar situation, since there are mulitple connection points, they actlike bridges
[06:58] <crimsun> Metalcore: what app are you attempting to connect?
[06:58] <weex> seems like it's complaining that openssl is too new
[06:58] <mighty_falcon> weex:  y not use gaim?
[06:58] <ArrenLex> weex: why not use gaim?
[06:58] <david_> host`: so they all have same channel/essid
[06:58] <weex> i wanted to try voice
[06:58] <glutGlobe> can somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?
[06:58] <david_> host`: I thought I'd connect using the mac address, but that hasn't worked either
[06:58] <weex> i use zinc most of the time anywya
[06:58] <mighty_falcon> anyways im off for the night, tnx ArrenLex  for the advice tonight
[06:59] <Geoffrey2> sigh....whoever said patience is a virtue obviously used linux......
[06:59] <Sketcher24> hey all
[06:59] <david_> host`: part of the problem is that I don't really have a frame of reference for how powerfull the connection should be. iwconfig doesn't list decibles, it uses x/100
[06:59] <ArrenLex> weex: voice doesn't work in yahoo manager for Linux.
[07:00] <david_> host`: my connection might just not be strong enough, but I don't know how strong it should be....
[07:00] <crimsun> Metalcore: I would try doing it from a Terminal instead of through qjackctl just to test that jackd's not at fault.
[07:00] <excelblue> what does LTS mean? does it basically mean that software will be updated for a long time?
[07:00] <weex> oh too bad...still it'd be nice if could be installed
[07:00] <ArrenLex> Long Term Service.
[07:00] <host`> david_, try 'iwlist wlan0 ap'
[07:00] <baxter_kylie> hi everyone. DNS. Can someone please point out all of the modules / files related to dns client resolution?
[07:00] <host`> it will tell you the ap's available and how strong the signals are
[07:00] <crimsun> excelblue: security-wise for the main component, yes
[07:00] <excelblue> eg. if I install Ubuntu 6.06.01 LTS, will I get updates on all the software until the time?
[07:00] <david_> ok
[07:01] <excelblue> ok... so the idea is: security updates, but not version updates
[07:01] <david_> host`: spits out a list of like.... 10 mac addresses
[07:01] <host`> or iwlist wlan0 peers
[07:01] <crimsun> excelblue: correct, new upstream versions are not included by default
[07:01] <ArrenLex> excelblue: Ubuntu is basically doing what Debian already does and calling it something special.
[07:01] <Metalcore> crimsun: is that not just qtjackctl trying to connect to the jack server?
[07:01] <excelblue> ah, never used Debian for a long time before
[07:01] <glutGlobe> baxter_kylie: you should just be able to run dhclient from the base install
[07:01] <host`> it should tell you a signal strenght
[07:01] <david_> host`: the second from the top is the one i wanna connect to
[07:01] <crimsun> Metalcore: qjackctl doesn't need to.
[07:01] <Metalcore> hmm
[07:01] <host`> david_, they all have the same essids?
[07:02] <david_> with a "link quality" of 39/100
[07:02] <david_> it doesn't show essids with that command
[07:02] <david_> it shows mac addresses
[07:02] <Metalcore> and running from terminal works fine
[07:02] <baxter_kylie> glutGlobe: it's a static network.
[07:02] <host`> right, if you just do iwlist wlan0 scan
[07:02] <host`> it should still be the second from the top, maybe not, but most likely
[07:02] <oxyride> david_, 39% is fair enough
[07:02] <crimsun> Metalcore: and you can connect your jack-aware app to the running jackd instance?
[07:03] <excelblue> so, by default, is Sypnatic only set up to get security updates?
[07:03] <host`> can you set it to connect using a specific mac address?
[07:03] <glutGlobe> baxter_kylie: ... then why not just setup static ips?
[07:03] <david_> oxyride: that's what I thought, but I told iwconfig to connect to that ap and it just won't associate
[07:03] <excelblue> as well as packages associated with that specific Ubuntu version?
[07:03] <glutGlobe> can somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?
[07:03] <crimsun> excelblue: security and small updates.
[07:03] <david_> host`: that's what I have tried to do
[07:03] <oxyride> david_, O.o
[07:04] <host`> I mean, is it possible to tell it to connect to a specific mac address
[07:04] <crimsun> excelblue: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates also
[07:04] <host`> I haven't ever tried that
[07:04] <baxter_kylie> glutGlobe: I am using static ips. DNS resolution, not dhcp problems. I can ping the wan. I can ping the lan, the gateway, the dns server itself. I'm even using the exact dns server on this machine with success but new ubuntu 6.06 install refuses to use dns resolution.
[07:05] <glutGlobe> baxter_kylie: sorry...I misread your original request...DHCP!=DNS...
[07:05] <david_> host`: you can the command is "iwconfig wlan0 ap 12:12:12:12:12:12
[07:05] <baxter_kylie> glutGlobe: No problem.
[07:05] <host`> after that did you do 'sudo dhclient wlan0'? or are you doing ifup?
[07:05] <baxter_kylie> I just want to know if some module or something is missing.
[07:06] <david_> i was using ifup
[07:06] <menko> hi, I set a new keyboard accelerator/shortcut for showing hidden files in nautilus (by pushing the key while hovering the menu item), but when I restart the application it is back to the old one (ctrl-H). So how do I make it stay permanently?
[07:06] <host`> david_, try dhclient, 'if' came broken on my install both times I installed it
[07:06] <harisund> Does anybody here have any experience with setting up OpenVPN on Ubuntu?
[07:06] <host`> it actually locks up my computer
[07:07] <david_> host`: trying now
[07:07] <host`> it's possible that it has conflicts with other peoples configurations too
[07:07] <dbglt> hey all, on upgrading to edgy, the font in openoffice is very odd and jagged (looks horrid). All other applications are fine. Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[07:07] <david_> host`: others on google wifi?
[07:08] <host`> what is google wifi?
[07:09] <david_> host`: you haven't heard? google is based in mountian view, and I live in mountian view
[07:09] <Dasnipa> google gives free wireless connection to the residents
[07:09] <host`> ahh
[07:09] <Dasnipa> of mtn view
[07:09] <david_> host`: to give back to the community, they are offering free wifi to the whole city
[07:09] <host`> that's awesome
[07:09] <david_> indeed
[07:09] <david_> if only it worked with ubuntu linux, right....
[07:09] <host`> you'll all have cancer within 10 years
[07:09] <tj_> is there a way to disable the pc speaker on a laptop?
[07:09] <SilentDis> hello :)
[07:09] <host`> it should work with linux
[07:09] <david_> david`: I know, but it will be good till then
[07:10] <host`> their end would be no different than hooking up to my router
[07:10] <Dasnipa> david_, im sure it should work with ubuntu. especially since the bulk of google employees run a modified version of ubuntu at work
[07:10] <SilentDis> quicky question:  what plugin am I looking for to play flv files in totem?
[07:10] <host`> something's bunked in your end
[07:10] <menko> hi, how do I change menu entry keyboard accelerator/shortcuts permanently? I set the for showing hidden files in nautilus (by pushing the key while hovering the menu item), but when I restarted it, it was back to the old one (ctrl-H). So how do I make it stay permanently?
[07:10] <david_> Dasnipa: I know, that's what I am thinking to myself all the time, but I am still getting nowhere
[07:10] <host`> david_, how did the dhclient work out?
[07:11] <david_> host`: nothing
[07:11] <host`> did you let it run?
[07:11] <david_> host`: tried over and over, and still didn't connect
[07:11] <baxter_kylie> host': Hehe. I think if put my wireless card at full 400mW strength with its 11db antennae birds would fall out of the sky. ;-)
[07:11] <david_> host`: yea
[07:11] <host`> it takes a while to resolve and IP
[07:11] <tj_> when i plug in headphones, the pc speaker refuses to mute... so i am looking to disable the pc speaker all together, how can i go about doing this?
[07:11] <host`> hmm
[07:11] <david_> host`: yea, it ran for like 5 min
[07:11] <host`> david_, try removing the essid
[07:11] <host`> iwconfig wlan0 essid
[07:12] <host`> iwconfig wlan0 essid nul
[07:12] <host`> or something like that
[07:12] <mon^rch> tj_:  doesn't the "volume mixer" have a mute pc speaker funct?
[07:12] <host`> and removing the mac address that you wanted to connect to
[07:12] <david_> "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid any"
[07:12] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to print out a document using Adobe Reader, the document is shifted down 1-2 inches on the page, and prints off the right side of the page...any idea how to fix this?
[07:12] <host`> essid off
[07:13] <david_> host`: k
[07:13] <tj_> mon^rch: not that i can see...
[07:13] <SilentDis> totem runs off of gstreamer, right?
[07:13] <baxter_kylie> anyone want to share their two cents on my DNS problems?
[07:13] <mon^rch> tj_: well, mine does....
[07:13] <mon^rch> hmph
[07:14] <host`> david_, 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed'
[07:15] <ZirJoker> espaol
[07:15] <host`> david_, 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap auto'
[07:15] <timfrost> !es
[07:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:15] <david_> host`: k one sec
[07:15] <host`> david_, basically reseting all the options in iwconfig, then try 'sudo dhclient wlan0'
[07:16] <david_> host`:d'oh, it connected to my neighbors
[07:16] <host`> lol
[07:16] <host`> is there something wrong with that?
[07:17] <david_> heh, it won't work on the other side of the house
[07:17] <host`> is it a laptop?
[07:17] <david_> actually it's a desktop, i just move it a bit
[07:17] <david_> long story
[07:18] <glutGlobe> *
[07:18] <host`> lol
[07:18] <david_> basically, i want the google wifi to work
[07:18] <host`> ahh
[07:18] <david_> I had some other ideas with it too tho
[07:18] <glutGlobe> -
[07:18] <david_> google wifi caps download to 1mbps
[07:18] <david_> but they also cap upload to 1mbps
[07:18] <david_> and 1mbps up is really really fast
[07:18] <host`> ehh.. yeah
[07:18] <host`> I used to bet better with my dsl
[07:19] <host`> but really it is pretty good
[07:19] <drivera90> I want a 100mbit connection. Where should I move to?
[07:19] <david_> well, down it's mediocre
[07:19] <david_> but up it is nice
[07:19] <host`> drivera90, EU
[07:19] <david_> south korea
[07:19] <david_> EU is good too
[07:20] <SilentDis> nm, found my answer.  appears you can't play flv files directly, but converting them to mpegs works - http://jadmadi.net/2006/06/22/ubuntu-howto-converting-flv-to-mpg/
[07:20] <host`> david_, had you gotten that computer to connect to your neighbors wifi before?
[07:21] <kivio> drivera90, sweden :)
[07:21] <oxyride> what's gooogle wifi?
[07:21] <drivera90> I'm paying about $200/mo here for the best available. Namely, 512kbps that doesn't ever get anything higher than 10KB/s.
[07:21] <oxyride> where?
[07:21] <SilentDis> drivera90 - a town close to me, Reedsburg, WI, offers 10mbps up/down over fiber for like $60/month.
[07:21] <david_> yea
[07:21] <host`> my up speed is 512 kb/sec
[07:21] <mon^rch> has anyone (else) had problems with themes not displaying pproperly in edgy???
[07:22] <CppIsWeird> also, I seem to only have a max resolution of 800x600 (which is rather annoying). Any way to fix that?
[07:22] <omkarenator> anybody using SATA on ubuntu ??
[07:22] <david_> oxyride: google wifi is free wifi in all of mountian view
[07:22] <SilentDis> cppisweird - try reconfiging the xserver?
[07:22] <kivio> CppIsWeird, type 'xrandr'
[07:22] <david_> oxyride: because google felt like giving back to the community
[07:22] <kivio> it lists all resolutions
[07:23] <oxyride> david_, never heard of that
[07:23] <CppIsWeird> right, and "All" the resolutions are 800x600 and below] 
[07:23] <host`> david_, maybe try moving the computer to resolve an IP
[07:23] <kivio> CppIsWeird, are you using the vesa driver?
[07:23] <host`> shouldn't be needed
[07:23] <SilentDis> cppisweird - what vid card do you have, and which driver are you using?
[07:23] <host`> but I don't know what else to tell you
[07:24] <host`> you said all the essid's are the same?
[07:24] <CppIsWeird> i have no idea
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> omkarenator: I believe mine is an IDE drive but SATA interface to it.
[07:24] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: are you using the stock drivers for your video???
[07:24] <david_> oxyride: http://wifi.google.com/support
[07:24] <CppIsWeird> i installed ubuntu... what you know is what i know
[07:24] <SilentDis> ahhh
[07:24] <omkarenator> yea thats right
[07:24] <kivio> ok
[07:24] <kivio> ati or nvidia CppIsWeird?
[07:24] <CppIsWeird> there is a string identify my card in the conf file, is that what x11 picked it up as?
[07:24] <oxyride> david_, gooogle has out of my life for a long time
[07:24] <omkarenator> did u have any problem installing?
[07:25] <CppIsWeird> if that is the case, it is an ATI card
[07:25] <hollaback83> is there an uninstall disc for ubuntu
[07:25] <david_> oxyride: I don't understand
[07:25] <hollaback83> no
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> hollaback83: You don't need one..
[07:25] <host`>  Open your Internet browser, and log into the network by using your Google Account. You will be able to create an account if you need one. Please note that if you do not see the Google WiFi login page immediately, open another site such as www.google.com. This should automatically load the Google WiFi login page.
[07:25] <oxyride> david_, I cannot receive any data from gooogle
[07:25] <hollaback83> how do u uninstall
[07:25] <SilentDis> < switched to nvidia as well
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> hollaback83: Just overwrite with anything else.
[07:26] <david_> oxyride: why is that?
[07:26] <hollaback83> ok
[07:26] <david_> host`: don't I have to associate first tho?
[07:26] <oxyride> david_, not sure
[07:26] <SilentDis> hollaback83: if you installed Ubuntu, then an 'uninstall' would basically leave your machine with NOTHING (no operating system at all).  if you just booted off the cd, simply choose to reboot, and remove the cd when prompted, and you'll be back in windows land :)
[07:27] <host`> yeah
[07:27] <host`> I would think so
[07:27] <jrsims> hey, what's the edgy repo I need to hook into to upgrade my dapper?
[07:28] <david_> oxyride:
[07:28] <david_> Google WiFi is a free wireless Internet service offered in the city of Mountain View, California, as part of Googles ongoing community outreach efforts. The service is available for anyone to use, provided they have what is required to access the Google WiFi network. Google WiFi is primarily an outdoor network, although there are ways to access the Google WiFi network from inside your home or office. An exception to this is t
[07:28] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29   (try that, but be careful!!!)
[07:28] <tec> hi i installed opera using synaptic....now i cant run it where do i load the progg....im new to linux i dont know where theprogram files folder is and opera is not in the applications button
[07:28] <oxyride> david_ , someone told me that FON is much better
[07:28] <sandy16> how to get ntfs write support in dapper 6.06 i have tried ntfs-3g but no use
[07:28] <david_> host`: tried to do the open web browser thing, didn't work....
[07:29] <david_> oxyride: FON? either way... Googlewifi is here now....
[07:29] <starsky> sandy16: ntfs write is safe (atleast that's what linux-ntfs say).
[07:29] <SilentDis> tec - did you try opening a console and just typing opera to see if that launches it?
[07:29] <oxyride> david_, ...
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> tec: Alt-F2, opera.  (You can add it to the menu later)
[07:30] <overrider> how can i start the sshd service from the command line in ubuntu?
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> overrider: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start most likely
[07:30] <starsky> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:30] <sandy16> starsky, so do i need to apt-get that linux-ntfs?
[07:30] <SilentDis> tec - if that works, you can add it to the menu using Menu > Applications > Alacarte menu editor
[07:30] <starsky> sandy16: if you are using 2.6.x kernel, it's already there
[07:30] <david_> wow, it's 10:30pm later, thanks for the help
[07:31] <oxyride> david_, if you use gooogle wiki, does it mean gooogle can collect all information about you legally?
[07:31] <tec> alt f2 did launch it though it is searching for missing pluigins it says pls install motif
[07:31] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide   (this looks a lil' more promising)
[07:31] <overrider> hmm it says privilege seperation user sshd does not exist
[07:31] <oxyride> david_?
[07:31] <starsky> try mounting ntfs with -rw
[07:32] <starsky> sandy16: uname -r gives your kernel version
[07:32] <starsky> 'uname -r'
[07:32] <mnepton> overrider: how did you instal the ssh server?
[07:32] <mnepton> +l
[07:32] <SilentDis> tec - did you use an apt-get command, or synaptic, to install opera?
[07:33] <overrider> mnepton just apt-get install openssh-server
[07:33] <sandy16> starsky, mine is 2.6.15
[07:33] <mnepton> overrider: then "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start" should work
[07:33] <tec> synaptic
[07:34] <tec> i cant seem to find alacartemenu editor
[07:34] <sandy16> starsky, shall i need to edit the /etc/fstab?
[07:34] <tec> would a different menu editor just do the same
[07:34] <wastrel> ubunto
[07:34] <mnepton> tec: what version of Opera is this? IIRC, Opera 9 did away with the libmotif dependency
[07:34] <jezza> anyone know how to install kernel source for 2.6.15-27?
[07:35] <SilentDis> tec - yes
[07:35] <tec> 8.51
[07:35] <mon^rch> tec: try system>preferences>menu layout
[07:35] <starsky> sandy16: sudo mount -rw -t ntfs /dev/[s-h] d[a/b/c]  /your/mount/directory.
[07:35] <starsky> sandy16: e.g., mount -rw -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/ntfs
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> I'm looking at a long list of video drivers for the X server that are intstalled....any reason why I couldn't uninstall the drivers I don't need?
[07:35] <wastrel> because they're part of the kernel package
[07:36] <tec> hmmm there is no menu layout in system preferences either im running 5.10 , anyway im in a menu editor now im adding opera but to which folder is the equivalent of program files where can i find its executable file
[07:36] <SilentDis> brb...
[07:36] <wastrel> there was no menu editor for gnome in 5.10 iirc
[07:36] <wastrel> was added in dapper
[07:37] <sandy16> starsky, no use still its read only filesystem
[07:37] <tec> application > system tools>then application menu editor with a big foot sign
[07:37] <griffindodd> good evening all you fine people
[07:37] <mnepton> tec: aha! you have an antique version of Ubuntu!
[07:37] <tec> really?
[07:37] <mnepton> tec: why 5.10 and not 6.06?
[07:38] <tec> i dont know really i jsut popped in a cd a friend gave me
[07:38] <mnepton> lol
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> heh
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> well, you're about a year behind I'm afraid
[07:38] <tec> how can upgrade with having the same things not erased i did a lot of tweaking already..
[07:38] <mnepton> tec: the newer version with its newer repos has a better Opera
[07:38] <tuxxee> can't you completely upgrade ubuntu without reinstalling ?
[07:38] <starsky> sandy16: I am running 2.6.15-27-386 and I can mount it with read/write ? what's your ntfs driver version ?
[07:38] <Madpilot> tec, you can upgrade 5.10 to 6.06
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, even our repo doesn't have the latest opera though
[07:38] <mnepton> tec: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tec about upgrade
[07:39] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: but at least it's Opera 9, and doesn't throw a hissy fit over Motif.
[07:39] <Madpilot> mnepton, Breezy->Dapper has the graphical upgrader, remember?
[07:39] <mnepton> Madpilot: eh, i like the CLI :)
[07:39] <tec> im looking at the 5.10 to 6.06 right?
[07:39] <BHSPitLappy> yes
[07:39] <tec> is 6.06 the latest?
[07:39] <Madpilot> tec, ys
[07:40] <tec> my...the numbers itself
[07:40] <tec> lol
[07:40] <mnepton> tec: yes, it is the latest final release
[07:40] <rashi> I need kernel source for 2.6.15-27 in Dapper. When I type apt-get install kernel-source it starts downloading 2.4.something. How do I get the right source package?
[07:40] <mnepton> (6.10 is still cooking)
[07:40] <lrm> am trying to automount an nfs share. have this in my fstab: 10.0.0.1:/	/media/server	nfs4	rw,hard,intr	0	0
[07:40] <crimsun> rashi: linux-source-2.6.15
[07:40] <mon^rch> 6.10 is pretty damn stable over here... everyone
[07:41] <sandy16> starsky, i got it
[07:41] <sandy16> starsky, i i have used sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/d -o force
[07:41] <lrm> how do i do this? currently, i have to issued this command to mount the share: sudo mount -a
[07:41] <rashi> crimsun, I get error Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.6.15. Any other ideas?
[07:42] <crimsun> rashi: read carefully.
[07:42] <starsky> sandy16: ~8)
[07:42] <rashi> oops, sorry
[07:42] <tec> i go log in different account this account cant access synaptic... and do majorchanges be back
[07:42] <sandy16> starsky, but how can i add tht in /etc/fstab
[07:42] <tuxxee> tec: switch to a different console and login as - oh never mind
[07:42] <griffindodd> anyone know the trick for getting amarok to run in Gnome???
[07:43] <crimsun> griffindodd: install it and libxine-extracodecs, then run it.
[07:43] <starsky> sandy16: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:43] <lrm> anybody who could help me with my prob?
[07:43] <griffindodd> crimsun: thanks
[07:44] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg problem?
[07:44] <sandy16> starsky, not that man, how can i implement this same functionality using fstab?
[07:44] <mon^rch> is libxine-extracodecs still missing in dapper?
[07:45] <griffindodd> weird, I have Libxine installed, when I try and run Amorak nothing happens - any ideas?
[07:45] <crimsun> mon^rch: it's not at all "missing".
[07:45] <starsky> sandy16: insert this (last line) /dev/sda1 /media/ntfs ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0     0
[07:45] <crimsun> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:45] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:45] <bozo_> (please forgive my newb-ness) anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[07:45] <bozo_> I have provided lots of info: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279469
[07:46] <mon^rch> crimsun: it waaaaaaaas at one point :(
[07:47] <starsky> sandy16: all good ?
[07:47] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg problem?  I keep getting errors complaining about unsafe ownership of the gpg.conf file.....
[07:47] <sandy16> starsky, i think i need to restart to check fstab? is n`t it?
[07:48] <starsky> sandy16: restart ubuntu ?
[07:48] <ian_> im back....pls send me the plink on how to upgrade to 6.06 thnx
[07:48] <sandy16> starsky, so catch you later , thanks alot
[07:48] <wastrel> 
[07:49] <UFDF_DAVID_DONG> I have installed Ubuntu, the maximum Resolution it will give me is 800x600. I have an ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB] 
[07:49] <starsky> sandy16: no probs. no need to restart ubuntu.. once /etc/fstab is written, just do mount /media/ntfs.. that's it. :) tata Sandy..
[07:49] <mon^rch> UFDF_DAVID_DONG: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:50] <sandy16> starsky, ok i will try tht
[07:51] <griffindodd> nope still can't run Amarok here in Gnome
[07:51] <sandy16> starsky, no use
[07:51] <mon^rch> I guess I shouldn't give out advice on ATI since I don't got a ATI card
[07:51] <mon^rch> :P
[07:52] <hollaback83> if i plugged a digital camcorder into my computer wut program would i use to play the the movie
[07:52] <IceCreamMatt> anyone know why my /var/backup folder is shared in samba?
[07:52] <Hit3k> hollaback83, totem?
[07:52] <sandy16> starsky, here update manager is running so may be i should restart after that
[07:52] <hollaback83> thanks
[07:52] <ian_> guys anyone who can help me uprade from 5.10 to the latest?
[07:52] <IceCreamMatt> sudo apt-get update
[07:53] <IceCreamMatt> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:53] <bimberi> !upgrade
[07:53] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:53] <Hit3k> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:53] <mon^rch> you guys are forgetting to tell to edit the sources.lst file....
[07:53] <bimberi> there are a few prerequisites before dist-upgrading, see the site above.
[07:54] <bimberi> that's one of them :)
[07:54] <mon^rch> :D
[07:54] <IceCreamMatt> anyone know why my /var/backup folder is shared in samba?
[07:54] <IceCreamMatt> i never shared it but i happend to come across it shared by accident
[07:54] <ian_> yep i read it awhile ago in a different user account i change because i cant access synaptic int hat account now i cant find the exact link
[07:55] <RagePrblm> Anyone still awake?
[07:55] <mon^rch> chan never sleeps
[07:55] <mon^rch> :P
[07:55] <RagePrblm> groovy
[07:55] <RagePrblm> Can you recommend a good newsgroup binaries downloader
[07:56] <whyso> how do i check for software updates in terminal
[07:56] <whyso> never mind
[07:57] <marcrosoft> so i updated init.d and now hal is not initializing
[07:57] <godtvisken> How can I make my own custom keyboard layout? I mean, i see the layouts in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts..
[07:57] <starsky> macrosoft: is hald running?
[07:58] <whyso> whats this mean? Reading package lists... Done
[07:58] <whyso> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:58] <weex> wow godtvisken how might you  be using a totally custom kb layout?
[07:58] <marcrosoft> starsky, ps -A | grep hald comes up empty
[07:58] <starsky> pe -ef  | grep 'hald' ?
[08:00] <marcrosoft> starsky, pe?
[08:00] <starsky> ps
[08:00] <starsky> *)
[08:00] <starsky> q::q
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg problem?  I keep getting errors complaining about unsafe ownership of the gpg.conf file.....
[08:00] <marcrosoft> mark     11638 11410  0 00:00 pts/3    00:00:00 grep hald
[08:01] <linlin> where do i get the ubuntu with the non-graphical installer?
[08:01] <marcrosoft> linlin, from their website..
[08:01] <marcrosoft> linlin, look for server version
[08:01] <linlin> i cant find it
[08:01] <lrm> thanks guy, maybe next time
[08:01] <starsky> macrosoft: hald isn't running.
[08:01] <linlin> oh its the server version?
[08:01] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: Set it like this: -rw------- 1 tomcat tomcat   8084 2006-06-02 16:20 gpg.conf
[08:02] <mon^rch> linlin: I think the "alternate" has text install too...????
[08:02] <marcrosoft> starsky, yeah,  thats what it means when it says couldn't initialize right?
[08:02] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: Or move it away, run gpg, then edit the new file... that will fix it as well.
[08:02] <starsky> so ? start hald. :)
[08:03] <linlin> ok thanks
[08:03] <marcrosoft> /etc/init.d/hald start?
[08:03] <jrsims> I want to upgrade to edgy! What repo do I need to add?
[08:03] <starsky> if it'
[08:03] <marcrosoft> nm
[08:03] <starsky> 's there..
[08:03] <marcrosoft> just hald I take it
[08:03] <ian_> can i im getting this error W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[08:03] <starsky> otherwise use the binary somewhere in /usr/bin
[08:03] <starsky> daemonize it.
[08:04] <bimberi> jrsims: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[08:05] <marcrosoft> hal-device              hal-find-by-capability  hal-get-property
[08:05] <marcrosoft> hal-device-manager      hal-find-by-property    hal-set-property
[08:05] <marcrosoft> error: dbus_bus_get: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[08:05] <marcrosoft> when trying to run hal-device
[08:05] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, what's the command line to do that?
[08:05] <starsky> you don't seem to have hald intalled.. do 'find / -name hald -print0'
[08:06] <starsky> report it here.. just output..
[08:06] <mon^rch> man, this distro has such a future...
[08:06] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: From your home: "cd .gnupg", "chown <youruser>.<yourgroup> gpg.conf", "chmod 600 gpg.conf"
[08:07] <starsky> I don't understand why hald wasn't installed when you isntalled hal ?
[08:08] <marcrosoft> starsky, that didn't do anything...
[08:08] <ReinH> quick bash question: how could I remove all files ending in .swp from a directory and its subdirectories?
[08:08] <starsky> didn't find.
[08:08] <starsky> what's your hal version ?
[08:08] <marcrosoft> starsky, i never remember installing hal... does it come with the os?
[08:08] <ian_> guys is kubuntu as solid as ubuntu? well i tried kubuntu twice but it always seems to just get faulty along the way
[08:08] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, so I could just blow away the .conf file, and have gpg create a new one?
[08:09] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: Yes, that should work as well.
[08:09] <starsky> are you running edgy or dapper ? breezy ?
[08:09] <starsky> yeah it does.
[08:09] <marcrosoft> synaptic says 0.5.7-1ubuntu18
[08:09] <ian_> because i cant seem to upgrade to 6.06 and i really have little knowledge of linux so i would just have to install it over again and just add evereything again with kubuntu ill jsut download kbuuntu 6.06
[08:09] <marcrosoft> starsky, dapper
[08:10] <starsky> does 'whereis hald' report anything ?
[08:10] <marcrosoft> starsky, hald: /usr/sbin/hald /usr/share/man/man8/hald.8.gz
[08:10] <ian_> http://usalug.org/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=62   ..... any suggestion with this i want to upgrade my version
[08:10] <starsky> yeah!
[08:11] <marcrosoft> starsky, odd that find command didnt find it
[08:11] <starsky> run that now, with 'sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes'
[08:11] <mon^rch> nite all
[08:11] <starsky> 8)
[08:11] <marcrosoft> starsky, doesn't seem to come up
[08:12] <starsky> tata mon^rch
[08:12] <starsky> did it execute ?
[08:12] <marcrosoft> starsky, i think so.. but nothing showed up in ps
[08:12] <starsky> 'sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=yes --verbose=yes'
[08:13] <starsky> ps -ef | grep 'hald' ?
[08:13] <marcrosoft> mark     26585 23087  0 00:14 pts/5    00:00:00 grep hald
[08:14] <starsky> tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[08:14] <ReinH> solved my own problem :) find -name '*.swp' -exec rm '{}' \;
[08:15] <ltR222> Hello, if i update to edgy is it the FINAL FINAL RELEASE ?
[08:15] <ltR222> is it safe to upgrade
[08:15] <Fracture> ltR222: no
[08:15] <Ademan> there isnt a way to make VIM's window splits be GUI based as opposed to just splitting the window with ascii |   is there?
[08:15] <Ademan> ltR222: no its not safe yet
[08:15] <ltR222> Oh, Okay
[08:15] <griffindodd> man am I insane or is there some trick o installing Amorak on Gnome??
[08:16] <marcrosoft> starsky, what should i be looking for here
[08:16] <Fracture> ltR222: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:16] <Ademan> but if you were to, you'd open up /etc/apt/sources.list and replace everything that says "dapper" with "edgy"
[08:16] <excelblue> what's the difference between the Ubuntu CD and DVD?
[08:16] <IceCreamMatt> anyone know how to unshare the folder /var/backup or prevent it from being accessed via samba share?
[08:16] <Ademan> griffindodd: no tricks afaik, wht seems to be the problem?
[08:16] <marcrosoft> Oct 17 23:52:00 localhost kernel: [17210734.784000]  usb 3-1: USB disconnect, add ress 3
[08:16] <ianmacgregor> griffindodd: sudo apt-get install amarok ?
[08:16] <marcrosoft> was the last item
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> excelblue, the dvd is more bloated
[08:16] <starsky> 'cat /var/log/messages | grep hald' is what you need, try to see what the problem is with the hald
[08:17] <griffindodd> ademan and aian...: When I try and run Amorak after installing it nothing happens, it doesn't launch
[08:17] <bozo_> ndiswrapper... anyone?
[08:17] <Ademan> griffindodd: and you added it through apt?
[08:17] <ianmacgregor> griffindodd: Try running it from a term and see if there is any error output
[08:17] <griffindodd> ademan: yups
[08:17] <marcrosoft> starsky, that comes up with nothing
[08:17] <griffindodd> ok
[08:17] <Ademan> griffindodd: huh... do what ianmacgregor said
[08:17] <griffindodd> kk
[08:18] <Ademan> wait... ianmacgregor. are you a macgregor? lol
[08:18] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: What gave you that idea? lol
[08:18] <griffindodd> flaoting point exception???
[08:18] <starsky> macrosoft, last resort is still left, re-install it using synaptic. anyone here can look into macrosoft's problem ?
[08:18] <Ademan> lol, i'm a macgregor too, but like... way down the line haha
[08:19] <marcrosoft> starsky, ok, I will try that now
[08:19] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: Small world :)
[08:19] <Ademan> griffindodd: huhm just like a KDE app to divide by zero :-p
[08:19] <Ademan> but seriously
[08:19] <griffindodd> odd
[08:19] <marcrosoft> starsky, brb
[08:19] <Ademan> that's very wierd
[08:21] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, this is the stuff that proves how very much I still need to learn....now it's complaining there's no writable keyring
[08:23] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: All files in .gnupg need to have the same owner/group and permissions... <youruser>.<yourgroup> and 600... unfortunately I need to go, so somebody else needs to help you. :\
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, ok, thanks for your help
[08:24] <marcrosoft> starsky, sill failing to initialize HAL... also it says the power manager cannot start until you start the dbus system service
[08:25] <Wiseguy> have any of you guys used anything bluetooth with ubuntu?
[08:26] <Psychobudgie> I've used my Sony mobile with it
[08:26] <starsky> marrosoft: here's the people who'll help you out #hal
[08:26] <starsky> go to that channel.
[08:26] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, I did
[08:27] <yellowtime> hello
[08:27] <Wiseguy> im just thinking about getting a bluetooth mouse for my laptop, and im just not 100% sure on the compatibility
[08:27] <starsky> sorry mate, couldn't be of help. hope it get's fixed. #hald  on freenode.net (sorry at freenode.net)
[08:28] <jos_> haai
[08:28] <marcrosoft> starsky, do you think the power issue is related?
[08:28] <yellowtime> what kind of laptop?
[08:28] <Wiseguy> yellowtime, ive got an acer travelmate 290...
[08:28] <jos_> is er iemand die nederlansd spreekt
[08:29] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, I'll tell you what I did. I manage to connect gprs via my cellphone with bluetooth on ubuntu. Also made some file transfers. But did not tried anything other than a cell phone. It will work but you will have to dig in bluetooth stuff
[08:29] <marcrosoft> starsky, thanks for your help
[08:29] <yellowtime> I want an ibm
[08:29] <starsky> marcrosoft: maybe. but not that likely. hal controls the device drivers .. no problem as i said #hal on freenode.net
[08:29] <Wiseguy> ReverseBlade, a cellphone is alittle bit more complicated than what i need though, im just looking to get a mouse to work so i dont have to carry around a receiver
[08:30] <marcrosoft> starsky, yeah i am in the hal channel now :)
[08:30] <starsky> goodluck.
[08:30] <yellowtime> Can someone help me with a printing problem?
[08:30] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, I say it will work 90% probability. But it will be painful
[08:31] <ReverseBlade> Wiseguy, to set it up
[08:31] <yellowtime> To get it working
[08:31] <yellowtime> with linux
[08:31] <ReverseBlade> yellowtime, what is your printers brand ?
[08:31] <marcrosoft> starsky, going to try this  http://easylinuxguide.com/forum/index.php?topic=68.msg233
[08:31] <marcrosoft> wish me luck
[08:31] <marcrosoft> brb
[08:31] <yellowtime> hp
[08:31] <yellowtime> 2610
[08:31] <yellowtime> all in one
[08:32] <ReverseBlade> hp has a support for printing in linux usally
[08:32] <ReverseBlade> try to dig in forum pages and wiki
[08:32] <ReverseBlade> it is easy
[08:32] <yellowtime> I've tried to do this but still cannot seem to get it workingg
[08:33] <yellowtime> lpr say command not found
[08:33] <yellowtime> lp says no default destination
[08:34] <yellowtime> any ideas?
[08:34] <French> I was wondering if I could get some help :)! Its pretty simple, I want to know if I can change the colour of the text in the task bar, Can anyone help me? The forums have nothing :(
[08:34] <ReverseBlade> yellowtime, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper
[08:35] <yellowtime> thanks for the link
[08:35] <ReverseBlade> your welcome
[08:36] <DraconPern> I have already installed ubuntu, grub is on the mbr, I need to relocate my grub to /dev/sd6
[08:36] <DraconPern> how do I do that?
[08:37] <ReverseBlade> !grub
[08:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:37] <ReverseBlade> DraconPern, also #grub
[08:38] <yellowtime> Does anyone know if the Ecs 482-m motherboard is compatible with ubuntu and linux in general?
[08:39] <yellowtime> It is rs482-m
[08:40] <griffindodd> can anyone recommend a powerful music player/library for gnome?
[08:40] <whyso> if i said copy to another partition, it shoudl be O.K. to format the origional partition without losing data right
[08:41] <DraconPern> does the find command in grub actually work?  It just says 'error 15: file not found'
[08:41] <yellowtime> a good music player is xmms
[08:41] <Jewfro> yellowtime, is your specific question about the onboard LAN or onboard video?
[08:41] <yellowtime> No I just want to know if the board in general is compatible
[08:42] <rhett> i haven't used ubuntu since warty
[08:42] <wastrel> hi hi
[08:42] <rhett> is it really more popular than fedora now?
[08:42] <wastrel> funny i've been using ubuntu since warty
[08:42] <starsky> !vlc > griffindodd
[08:42] <wastrel> it really is quite popular.
[08:42] <whyso> when you use the copy folder feature it makes a new copy, not a link right
[08:42] <rhett> i'm downloading the desktop cd
[08:42] <rhett> i guess i'll give it a try
[08:43] <griffindodd> startsky: I have 7000+ songs, I need good library functions too
[08:43] <Jewfro> yellowtime, why wouldn't it be? There are sometimes problems with certain mobo features, LAN, video, RAID, etc
[08:43] <starsky> !amarok > griffindodd
[08:43] <whyso> griffindodd: lightweight :)
[08:43] <Lam_> rhett: just a heads up, the new 6.10 Edgy Eft release comes out next thursday
[08:43] <Jewfro> but you'll have to check the hardware compatibility list against the specific features instead of the mobo
[08:43] <starsky> !xmms > griffindodd
[08:43] <rhett> how do i upgrade to edgy then?
[08:43] <yellowtime> Have you heard of this particular mobo having problems
[08:44] <synd3> Best P2P app available in ubuntu's apt?
[08:44] <starsky> griiffindodd: I'd go for vlc.
[08:44] <synd3> Gnutella, that is
[08:44] <rhett> no offense, but I had lots of problems with warty
[08:44] <Lam_> rhett: from dapper, you can run $sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  to upgrade to beta right now, or just wait till next thursday
[08:44] <yellowtime> jewfro?
[08:44] <Jewfro> yellowtime, never ran linux on one personally. Installed plenty of them for customers, but always w/windows
[08:44] <Lam_> rhett: ubuntu has gone a long ways since warty
[08:44] <rhett> it was very difficult to upgrade firefox and mysql in warty, i remember
[08:44] <yellowtime> Ok
[08:44] <griffindodd> he he, I'll try em, although I haven't seen anything as strong as 'Listen Player' yet but it doesn't appear to play wma
[08:45] <yellowtime> I tried looking on the web for compatibility but did not get a straight answer
[08:45] <Jewfro> yellowtime, you won't get one on the "mobo", you'll have to check the specific components
[08:45] <_azrael> Is there a way to unfreeze a terminal that's recieved ^S ?
[08:45] <_azrael> *How does one unfreeze a terminal that's recieved ^S?
[08:45] <synd3> Best Gnutella P2P app available in ubuntu's apt?
[08:45] <rhett> My main concern is that I have 2 lcds and it's hard to get xorg configured on my old fedora 3 setup.  So, i'm correct that ubuntu is popular enough, it should be able to figure it out now, right?
[08:45] <rhett> an nvidia graphics card as well
[08:46] <starsky> !xmms-wma
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms-wma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <starsky> !wma-xmms
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wma-xmms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <wastrel> _azrael try ^r
[08:46] <smotang> How do I use a Bin file?
[08:47] <ReverseBlade> synd emule ?
[08:47] <Jewfro> Anyone know how to fix this: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[08:47] <Jewfro> ?
[08:47] <_azrael> wastrel: Doesn't fix the problem. It's in vim, does that help?
[08:47] <wastrel> sorry i dunno then
[08:48] <yellowtime> jewfro, I enter lpinfo -v and I see hp/nodevice found as one of the entrys. any Ideas
[08:48] <starsky> Jewfro: AFAIK you need to import the gpg keyring.
[08:48] <Jewfro> print?
[08:48] <Jewfro> yellowtime, printer I mean?
[08:48] <Jewfro> starsky, how?
[08:49] <yellowtime> Yes+
[08:49] <starsky> Jewfro: don't know.
[08:49] <Jewfro> me either!
[08:49] <starsky> ok
[08:49] <Jewfro> I was playing with easyubuntu, and that happened, sigh...
[08:50] <starsky> gpg --help
[08:50] <wastrel> well couldn't you just remove the freecontrib.org repository
[08:50] <smotang> !bin
[08:50] <mlLk> is there any windows64x problems while installing ubuntu?
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <starsky> !blobber
[08:51] <Jewfro> starsky, duh!, thanks, sometimes I need to be reminded of the obvious
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blobber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <smotang> Anyone know how to unpack/run a bin file in ubuntu?
[08:51] <Ignatius> guys, I have gigs of ram and I'd like to define a dvd rip program to use it as cache instead of some directory on my hd. is that wise / possible? :)
[08:51] <ianmacgregor> smotang: sh file.bin
[08:51] <Jewfro> smotang, I may be wrong, but aren't those the ones you do via ./configure?
[08:51] <starsky> Jewfro: gpg --help | grep 'import' probably ?
[08:52] <Jewfro> ianmacgregor, ah yes, like americas army sh ./americasarmy, YES!
[08:52] <wastrel> smotang what program, did you check to see if it's in the repos first?
[08:52] <Ignatius> so to continue my question is the random access memory located somewhere like /dev/ or anything?
[08:52] <smotang> thanks! ian
[08:52] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You're welcome :)
[08:53] <mnepton> Ignatius: Linux handles virtual memory on its own. user intervention is not required, and is strongly discouraged.
[08:54] <smotang> wastrel what did you mean by repos?
[08:55] <smotang> I tried the sh file.bin command from terminal it didnt work, came up with an unable to run binary? should i maybe run it through root? Using sudo perhaps?
[08:55] <Jewfro> smotang, repositories, trying typing "sudo aptitude install xxx" from command line, xxx being the program name
[08:56] <mnepton> smotang: try just ./filename.bin
[08:56] <mnepton> smotang: what app is this?
[08:56] <Jewfro> smotang, and yes, run that as root, if it's not in the repositories and that's the only way to install it.
[08:56] <smotang> it is
[08:56] <smotang> the planeshift client
[08:57] <smotang> its a free mmo that has a linux client
[08:57] <pckim93> Hi, can I ask abou ubuntu installation on core 2 duo?
[08:57] <mnepton> !ask
[08:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:57] <smotang> sudo sh PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin is that the way i should word the command?
[08:57] <pckim93> OK.  I have a new machine (G965 chipset (E6400))
[08:58] <smotang> thanks jewfro
[08:58] <Jewfro> smotang sudo sh ./filename
[08:58] <mnepton> smotang: no, just "./Plane<tab><enter>"
[08:58] <pckim93> And I tried installing Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Desktop and 6.10 Beta as well..
[08:58] <smotang> ah thanks!
[08:58] <mnepton> Jewfro: the file in question may not be a sheel script.
[08:58] <mnepton> *shell
[08:58] <pckim93> but it hangs while trying to load the CD.
[08:59] <mnepton> hooboy. the 965.
[08:59] <pckim93> yes...
[08:59] <smotang> it says error executing file.
[08:59] <Jewfro> what error?
[08:59] <smotang> cannot execute binary file
[08:59] <mnepton> Intel has not yet been entirely forthcoming about the 965. support is ... spotty.
[08:59] <pckim93> I've been looking for some answers in forums...
[08:59] <pckim93> I see.
[08:59] <smotang> any ideas?
[08:59] <mnepton> smotang: ls -l Plane<tab><enter>
[08:59] <pckim93> So it can't be done?
[09:00] <Caplain> is there direct3d support for wine?
[09:00] <mnepton> pckim93: it can be done, but is problematic
[09:00] <smotang> it doesnt do anything when i hit tab?
[09:00] <pckim93> problematic meaning hard or not usable?
[09:01] <mnepton> smotang: it should auto-complete that long filename for you.
[09:01] <smotang> it just beeps
[09:01] <Jewfro> autocomplete yourself then
[09:01] <ianmacgregor> smotang: I figured you wouldn't be able to run it if sh file.bin didn't work. It doesn't mater if it isn't a shell script, sh file.bin should work if it's a bin file
[09:01] <mnepton> pckim93: problematic meaning "in our lab we have 965-based stuff where one SATA controller works, one does not. sound works on Dapper, not on Edgy." etc etc etc
[09:02] <pckim93> I see.  I don't care about sound for now...
[09:02] <Caplain> ubuntu - page 3 of "things that go beep vol 4"
[09:02] <pckim93> I'm trying to run vmware (which might also be an issue, I guess)...
[09:02] <pckim93> vmware server
[09:02] <pckim93> and I would like to run a ubuntu server inside it.
[09:02] <pckim93> as a virtual machine
[09:03] <pckim93> so first, I need to install ubuntu desktop, then install vmware server, then install ubuntu server in a VM.
[09:03] <pckim93> I hope this is doable.
[09:03] <smotang> Jewfro: i tried that, it still says it cannot execute binary
[09:03] <mnepton> pckim93: you're missing the point. Intel has not released full specs for the 965. so Linux support for it is not good. this means the sound may or may not work, depending on your implementation. it also means that Linux may well just stop seeing the hard drive one day. or the NIC. or who knows what.
[09:03] <Caplain> pckim93: vmware?
[09:03] <mnepton> pckim93: this is why one does not buy hardware on the bleeding edge. scabs suck. ;)
[09:04] <Caplain> lol
[09:04] <pckim93> I didn't.  It's my friend's computer.
[09:04] <pckim93> I'm trying to set it up for him.
[09:04] <smotang> ian: is there anything else i can try?
[09:04] <pckim93> I was hoping to avoid buying Windows...
[09:04] <mnepton> well, good luck. the 965 definitely fails our support tests.
[09:04] <pckim93> Hmmm... OK.
[09:04] <wastrel> smotang   file Planetblah.blah
[09:04] <tuck3r> why would nano backspace backwards?
[09:04] <Jewfro> pckim93, I had a similar problem once, ACPI error....
[09:05] <pckim93> Were you able to fix it?
[09:05] <Jewfro> pckim93, required a bios update to resolve
[09:05] <Jewfro> yes, bios update
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> smotang: is it executable?
[09:05] <pckim93> Hmmm.. maybe I'll try that.
[09:05] <johanmuller> how do I upload messenger on ubuntu
[09:05] <pckim93> I'll try the bios update...
[09:05] <smotang> how do i check?
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> smotang: ls Pla<tab><enter>
[09:05] <pckim93> hmmm... how do I update the BIOS without any O/S?
[09:05] <variant> johanmuller: what do you mean?
[09:05] <Jewfro> pckim93, not sure if that's your problem, with such new hardware, but you could check.
[09:05] <taylor|killedX> i was monkeying around with my xorg.conf and broke my config.  so I restored from the last working copy and now I get the nvidia loading screen and then x dies without any errors in the logs
[09:05] <ianmacgregor> smotang: It should say somethng like -rwxr-xr-x
[09:06] <variant> pckim93: download the bios update fromyour bios vendor website and burn it to floppy/cd, its normaly bootable imagbe
[09:06] <johanmuller> not able to upload yahoo messenger on my computer
[09:06] <pckim93> OK.  Thanks.
[09:06] <smotang> ok i tried ls and it came back with the filename in green?
[09:06] <Madpilot> johanmuller, gaim can do yahoo msgr, if that's what you mean...
[09:07] <johanmuller> but how do i do it
[09:07] <ianmacgregor> smotang: ok, that means it's executable. Perhaps the download was corrupted or something
[09:07] <variant> johanmuller: where are you trying to upload yahoo messenger to?
[09:07] <Acke_ubu> johanmuller, how do you mean? upload? where?
[09:07] <pacman> anyone familiar with getting a printer set up?
[09:07] <variant> johanmuller: and why are you uploading it at all?
[09:07] <smotang> How to use an md5 checksum to check see if it is corrupt or not?
[09:08] <johanmuller> my computer went the gaim option but it doesnt let me connect
[09:08] <ianmacgregor> smotang: md5sum -c file.bin
[09:08] <variant> smotang: download te .md5 and run md5sum /path/to/file.md5 making sure taht both the downloaded md5 and the main file are in the same dir
[09:08] <smotang> thanks
[09:08] <Jewfro> johanmuller, there is a yahoo linux client, but gaim should work, check settings
[09:09] <johanmuller> I have a pentium 2 running ubuntu
[09:09] <smotang> ok here is the md5sum: md5sum: cb456493c8a51fe02267b234887610f7
[09:09] <Jewfro> johanmuller, check the gaim settings, make sure you have the newest version as well.
[09:10] <ianmacgregor> smotang: Does that match the md5sum on the app's website?
[09:10] <overrider> my lan topology is hosts -> switches -> 4 port hub -> router -> modem -> internet.... any problems with that hub there in the middle?
[09:10] <gneral> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
[09:11] <gneral> how to remove bold text from apt-get ? I was deleted manually that file and now I cant install any package
[09:11] <variant> smotang: the md5sum command that i told you will tell you if the file is good or now
[09:11] <variant> or not*
[09:12] <johanmuller> ok i have opened gaim but says ive been disconnected
[09:12] <aoupi> overrider: I have almost exactly the same setup and I don't have any problems
[09:12] <johanmuller> when logging on
[09:12] <four> can someone tell me how to make tv out work with ati Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[09:12] <Jewfro> johanmuller, run synaptic and check for updates, you may have an old version
[09:13] <johanmuller> how do i do that?
[09:13] <superdump> hello good people
[09:13] <variant> overrider: is there a problem with your network?
[09:13] <Jewfro> johanmuller, alternately you could try using kopete, sudo apt-get kopete...
[09:13] <smotang> It came back with: md5sum: PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found
[09:13] <Jewfro> johanmuller, system, administration, synaptic package manager
[09:13] <smotang> what does that mean?
[09:13] <variant> smotang: did you download the checksum and the file from the same site?
[09:14] <superdump> i've been prodding around trying to get the touchpad on my macbook functioning fully with two/three finger taps for middle and right clicks and also two-finger dragging/scrolling but i'm struggling at the moment
[09:14] <four> is there a way to make tv out work with ati Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[09:14] <superdump> does anyone else have a macbook and has already done this in ubuntu, or know how to?
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> can anyone reccomend a decent program for web page design?
[09:14] <johanmuller> ok will try
[09:14] <smotang> Im confused. the command i used was: md5sum -c PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin
[09:14] <variant> four: probably
[09:14] <overrider> variant , no, i just added that hub there to do some protocol monitoring
[09:14] <aoupi> Geoffrey2: gedit :p
[09:14] <Jewfro> Geoffrey2, , screem
[09:15] <Jewfro> aoupi :)
[09:15] <four> the ati website has linu software but i cant get it to work, mightnot be compatable with ubuntu?
[09:15] <danny_> anyone else experience the dreaded Grub error 17, upon boot?
[09:15] <superdump> Geoffrey2: wysiwig? i tend to manually write stuff or use something like wordpress or whatever
[09:15] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You need to download the md5sum from the same website that you got planeshift from
[09:15] <Geoffrey2> aoupi, ah yes, notepad :)
[09:16] <Wiseguy> hey guys, how do i get xmms with mp3 support again?
[09:16] <variant> smotang: download the file and the md5sum and run "md5sum /path/to/downloaded/md5sum.md5
[09:16] <four> noone knows how to make svideo out work with ubuntu
[09:17] <Ignatius> Wiseguy: sudo apt-get intall gstreamer-lame or something
[09:17] <variant> four: stop whining and look on google
[09:17] <Ignatius> try apt-cache search first
[09:17] <ianmacgregor> Wiseguy: It comes with mp3 support in the repos
[09:17] <smotang> I dont know how to download the md5 sum
[09:17] <variant> four: is it a radeon?
[09:17] <four> yes
[09:17] <variant> smotang: it should be in the same directory as the other file you downloaded
[09:17] <Jewfro> Wiseguy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <four> it is radeon
[09:17] <smotang> http://www.planeshift.it/download.html is the site where i got the original file from, i got it from the 3rd mirror for linux
[09:18] <ianmacgregor> Wiseguy: If you install xmms from the repos, it already has mp3 support
[09:18] <variant> four: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=radeon+tvout+linux&btnG=Google+Search
[09:18] <Ignatius> smotang:planeshift works on me :)
[09:18] <Ignatius> and I have inteegrated intel, sheesh
[09:18] <Ignatius> *-e
[09:18] <variant> smotang: if there was no .md5 file on that site then you cant use md5 checksumming to test the integrity of the file
[09:18] <bun-bun> smotang# the md5sums are right there on the page you just linked, just a bit further down
[09:18] <roboe> necesito ayuda please
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> smotang: I am seeing that the md5sum is blank on the site :(
[09:19] <roboe> alguien habla espaol?
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: Where?
[09:19] <bun-bun> !es > roboe
[09:19] <smotang> damn
[09:19] <johanmuller> ok in synamic package manger which one do i choose
[09:19] <bun-bun> eh.. it's right there
[09:19] <roboe> he hecho una instalacin de ubuntu
[09:19] <Jewfro> smotang, get the file from where ignatiuis got his!
[09:19] <bun-bun> just below the mirrirs
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: For Linux?
[09:19] <roboe> pero me pide usuario
[09:19] <roboe> y no s qu poner
[09:20] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: It's there for the .exe files but not for Linux
[09:20] <hawaisurf> hi just a simple question....my garbage bin desapeared from the Desktop..how can I put it there again?
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[09:20] <variant> johanmuller: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:20] <smotang> Well that was weird... I tried to open it through desktop just then AGAIN and this time it worked...
[09:20] <julian> robeo
[09:20] <bun-bun> ianmacgregor# i see what you're saying, that's what i get for jumping into a convo late :)
[09:20] <julian> cuando instalaste te pregunta el nombre del usuario
[09:20] <ianmacgregor> bun-bun: hehe
[09:20] <variant> Baco: this is an english channel
[09:20] <julian> que pusiste
[09:21] <ianmacgregor> !es > julian
[09:21] <variant> julian: this is an eglish channel
[09:21] <variant> lol, english
[09:21] <smotang> Ok, now it says i need to run it as root...
[09:21] <ClayG> anyone here own a HP lappy?
[09:21] <julian> i was trying to help someone
[09:21] <variant> julian: sure, but do it in the right chan
[09:21] <julian> shesh
[09:22] <smotang> Ian any ideas?
[09:22] <variant> julian: this channel is busy enough in english :)
[09:22] <ClayG> hehehe julian, cheerleaders bugging you?
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You double-clicked it in nautilus and it worked?
[09:22] <julian> i just dont see the problem in  helping someone, that is the ultimate goal of this channel
[09:22] <julian> anyways
[09:23] <variant> julian: i agree, but if you combine all the different language ubuntu channels then this would be the least helpfull channel imaginable
[09:24] <smotang> It was a .bin file on my desktop, im using the gnome desktop i double clicked and it worked...
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> smotang: Nautilus manages the desktop ;)
[09:24] <JDStone> is it possible to use a specific package from teh edgy repos?
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> smotang: open a term and type:  gksudo nautilus  , then go to that file and double-click. But, be careful, that will be a nautilus window running as root.
[09:25] <Jewfro> JDStone, do you mean a specific version?
[09:25] <variant> JDStone: I think you will need to enable the backports repo. i think thats how it works anyway
[09:25] <jenda> Anyone here use bitlbee + google talk? How do you connect to that?
[09:25] <JDStone> Jewfro, variant.  I want just the smartmontools package
[09:25] <JDStone> because it's a newer version
[09:26] <Jewfro> jenda, google talk words under gaim/kopete through the jabber protocol
[09:26] <variant> Jewfro: i have never used bitlbee but the bitlbee website i just looked at tells you how to do it
[09:26] <JDStone> it's a newer version, yes
[09:26] <JDStone> 5.36 instead of 5.34
[09:26] <smotang> thanks ian
[09:26] <variant> jenda: i have never used bitlbee but the bitlbee website i just looked at tells you how to do it
[09:26] <jenda> Jewfro: yes, it is the jabber protocol, but has some server/port settings which I don't know how to set in bitlbee
[09:26] <ianmacgregor> smotang: You're welcome :)
[09:26] <variant> jenda: (so connecting to Google Talk is just a matter of account add jabber account@gmail.com password)
[09:26] <smotang> how do i stop it from bein root?
[09:26] <jenda> valehru: aha, thx :)
[09:27] <Jewfro> JDstone, you can specify versions using apt-get or aptitude, so long as it's in your repositories
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> smotang: exit/quit the app
[09:27] <variant> Jewfro: i assume you ment me, np :)
[09:27] <ClayG> hey has anyone here used a hp laptop with the brightview/glossy screen?
[09:27] <smotang> ok thanks
[09:27] <ClayG> I'm buying one NOW and dont want to pay extra for something that I wont like as much
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> smotang: And make sure you close that nautilus window as well
[09:27] <JDStone> Jewfro: that's the thing.  If I put it in my repos, I'll get everything else from the EDGY repos, right?
[09:28] <smotang> Now, I have a feeling that my 3d rendering is at the moment all software and not using my graphics card's hardware at all.
[09:28] <Jewfro> JDStone, you could just download it in .deb format, then install....
[09:28] <smotang> if there any way to change that?
[09:28] <JDStone> hmm, true
[09:28] <variant> smotang: depends what card you have
[09:28] <smotang> nvidia 5200 i think
[09:28] <Jewfro> JDstone, not sure about the other question, try man aptitude :)
[09:28] <julian> anyone know if ntfs 3g driver will be included in edgy release
[09:29] <variant> smotang: you will have to install the proprietry nvidia drivers which is a shame as it is non free software
[09:29] <JDStone> ok, thanks Jewfro
[09:29] <johanmuller> ok what do i do their
[09:29] <ianmacgregor> smotang: Check the topic about nvidia drivers
[09:29] <jenda> valehru: umm... nope, Idon't think that's it... that works for connecting to jabber.
[09:29] <jenda> But not google's jabber.
[09:30] <Jewfro> johanmuller, where are you now?
[09:30] <jenda> err... variant ^
[09:30] <variant> johanmuller: who are you talking to? (include peoples nicks in conversations so they are highlighted -  for example: type var and press the TAB key)
[09:31] <variant> johanmuller: thats what it says on the bitlbee site
[09:31] <smotang> That topic is in the ubuntu forums?
[09:31] <johanmuller> in the synapic package trying to install yahoo messenger
[09:31] <ianmacgregor> smotang: type /topic
[09:31] <variant> jenda: thats what it says on the bitlbee site: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.html ctrl f and type google
[09:31] <JDStone> Jewfro: will a package from here work: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/s/smartmontools/
[09:31] <Jewfro> johanmuller, you meaning trying to update gaim, click on the "mark all upgrades", and apply
[09:31] <harrism> hi everyone, for some reason nothing is showing on my desktop. Say for example I save a file to the desktop, graphically it will not show but it will in terminal. When I mount say my USB flash drive, it mounts but does not show on the desktop. I also cannot right-click the desktop? Any ideas?
[09:31] <JDStone> Jewfro: or is that only for debian?
[09:31] <smotang> thanks
[09:31] <johanmuller> ok will do so
[09:31] <jenda> variant: strange, doesn't work for me.
[09:32] <variant> jenda: sorry :(
[09:32] <Jewfro> JDStone, debian packages should work, assuming you have all dependencies
[09:32] <jenda> It hits the authentication method: google uses tls
[09:32] <ianmacgregor> harrism: nautilus manages the desktop and it isn't running. try running nautilus or log out and back in
[09:32] <jenda> variant: np, and thanks.
[09:32] <johanmuller> i have done so what nexxt?
[09:32] <Flannel> Jewfro, JDStone, no.  debians repositories don't necessarily have binary compatability with ubuntu.
[09:32] <variant> harrism: could be the gnome desktop decorator crashing.. or are you using a custom command to set the background walpaper?
[09:32] <jenda> variant: aha, that's for a bzr branch of bitlbee, not the stable version.
[09:33] <Jewfro> johanmuller, did you download updates that fast? try gaim again
[09:33] <harrism> well I rebooted but that did not seem to help. I recently installed XGL+Berly but that is working fine
[09:33] <variant> jenda: i see, perhaps you should switch?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> harrism: sounds like nautilus is not drawing your desktop _ try "killall nautilus" and see if it comes back
[09:33] <JDStone> Flannel: how do I get the ubuntu EDGY package of smartmontools without updating my repos?
[09:33] <johanmuller> ok will do so im on broadband that why
[09:33] <Flannel> harrism: ah, it's a XGL/whatever issue then.  ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl or #xgl or whatnot
[09:33] <jenda> variant: nah, I'll just GFGI ;) found something already.
[09:33] <variant> jenda: CFGI?
[09:33] <variant> jenda: gl
[09:33] <sven-tek> Hi! OpenOffice.org's impress crashes here on a dapper system. Where can i report it, or send my presentation that causes the crash
[09:33] <Flannel> JDStone: you don't.  Wait for edgy, or maybe it's backported, or compile yourself
[09:33] <harrism> killall worked
[09:34] <JDStone> damn, thanks Flannel, Jewfro
[09:34] <thoreauputic> sven-tek:  bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <harrism> thanks for the help, but how exactly did this help?
[09:34] <variant> JDStone: download the smartmontools .deb and run dpkg -i /path/to/tools.deb
[09:34] <Flannel> JDStone: you might be able to compile from edgy source, so still quasi package managed
[09:34] <eetfunk> is it just me or apt-get install python-psycopg2 doesnt work?  it's supposed to be in universe
[09:34] <thoreauputic> harrism: nautilus sometimes frgets to draw the desktop :)
[09:34] <harrism> so killall resets it? or stops it?
[09:34] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:34] <ianmacgregor> harrism: nautilus manages the gnome desktop (icons, etc) and it screwed up somehow. When you killed it, it respawned and set things back to normal.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> stops and respawns it
[09:35] <johanmuller> gaim has diconected me again
[09:35] <johanmuller> on yahoo
[09:35] <tmorris> how do I change the "Open With" application on certain files?
[09:35] <variant> JDStone: possibly yahoo network not gaim
[09:35] <harrism> I see, thanks. Well my usb icon changed into a text file icon :D but I can probably fix that in nautilus right?
[09:35] <Jewfro> johanmuller, hrmm, not sure what your problem is, check your user name/password
[09:36] <harrism> ok nevermind, it was a text file on top of the usb icon :D heh
[09:36] <harrism> thanks again for the help
[09:36] <thoreauputic> harrism: a usb icon should only show when the usb is actually mounted
[09:36] <JDStone> Flannel: found it: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/smartmontools/smartmontools_5.36-6ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:36] <thoreauputic> harrism: np :)
[09:36] <Jewfro> johanmuller, or try this: http://messenger.yahoo.com/download/unix.html
[09:37] <variant> JDStone: run dpkg -i ont hat file
[09:37] <JDStone> variant: how do i do that?
[09:37] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Baco: not here, please
[09:37] <Jewfro> JDstone, from terminal sudo dpgk -i xxx, xxx being your file name
[09:37] <variant> JDStone: download it.. open terminal and type dpkg -i smartmontools_5.36ubuntu2_i386.deb
[09:37] <thoreauputic> can anyone identify the language Baco is using?
[09:37] <variant> JDStone: you need to be root
[09:38] <JDStone> oh, yeah, I did that
[09:38] <ianmacgregor> thoreauputic: I think it's a bot
[09:38] <JDStone> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smartmontools:
[09:38] <JDStone>  smartmontools depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:
[09:38] <JDStone>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[09:38] <JDStone>  smartmontools depends on sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu2); however:
[09:38] <JDStone>   Version of sysv-rc on system is 2.86.ds1-6ubuntu32.
[09:38] <JDStone> dpkg: error processing smartmontools (--install):
[09:38] <ianmacgregor> it keeps repeating
[09:38] <JDStone>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:38] <vinboy> how do I enable Jmicron PATA/IDE support in kernel 2.6.18?
[09:38] <JDStone> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:38] <JDStone>  smartmontools
[09:38] <JDStone> oops, probably should have done pastebin
[09:38] <thoreauputic> JDStone: do NOT  paste
[09:38] <thoreauputic> indeed
[09:38] <Jewfro> JDstone, okay being trying to resolve your dependencies, and try again
[09:38] <JDStone> sorry guys
[09:38] <Jewfro> JDstone, begin I mean
[09:38] <variant> JDStone: you will need to do the same for those deps
[09:38] <JDStone> hmm, ok
[09:39] <thoreauputic> !tr
[09:39] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:39] <JDStone> hmm, maybe I'll just wait....  i'm going to bed for now.  when will EDGY be out anways?
[09:39] <variant> JDStone: its not the safest of options
[09:40] <ReverseBlade> thoreauputic, selam
[09:40] <variant> JDStone: in a couple of weeks i think
[09:40] <thoreauputic> JDStone: oct 26 I think
[09:40] <variant> JDStone: I am using it now.. it is very nice :)
[09:40] <wrabbit^> which is the latest ubuntu release?
[09:40] <eetfunk> can anyone tell me why Universe doesnt work?  This is my sources.list file:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/fuI52a18.html
[09:40] <variant> weka: dapper
[09:40] <JDStone> oh, even if it's in the next couple months, then I'll wait
[09:40] <variant> wrabbit^: dapper
[09:40] <variant> wrabbit^: edgy is development, out soon
[09:40] <JDStone> night
[09:40] <ianmacgregor> JDStone: iirc, it's the 28th of this month
[09:40] <JDStone> thanks again
[09:40] <variant> JDStone: later
[09:40] <wrabbit^> variant: edgy is still available for dl though right?
[09:41] <variant> wrabbit^: yeah, i use it
[09:41] <variant> wrabbit^: you can upgrade from dapper to edgy
[09:41] <wrabbit^> variant: I plan on it :)
[09:41] <variant> wrabbit^: change dapper to edgy in sources.list run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:41] <upshs01> anybody could help me what is happening to my progrm whenever i left my unit for a while, its been in a screen saver mode, its hanging, doesnt open, then what i do is to reboot, is it okay? does the system will not be affected
[09:42] <wrabbit^> variant: sounds good.  Much change?
[09:42] <mnepton> upshs01: change the screensaver to "blank screen only" instead of random
[09:42] <levander> Why is my clock always an hour or two off either way?
[09:42] <alumno01> hello
[09:42] <alumno02> hola
[09:42] <upshs01> in what way and how could i do it
[09:42] <alumno02> ola k tl?
[09:42] <alumno01> mb
[09:43] <variant> wrabbit^: yeah, feels much slicker and faster. nice new theme updates too
[09:43] <alumno01> y tu
[09:43] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:43] <alumno02> como te llamas??
[09:43] <BHSPitLappy> alumno01, what are you doing, exactly.
[09:43] <mnepton> upshs01: System -> Prefs -> Screensaver
[09:43] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:43] <ianmacgregor> !es > alumno02
[09:43] <levander> Anybody knows how to use the ntp commands appropriately?  My system is pretty much set up to default with that stuff.
[09:43] <wrabbit^> variant: awesome :) Might upgrade tonight
[09:43] <variant> wrabbit^: for the first time ever suspend and hibernate work on my laptop with edgy
[09:43] <tmorris> !ops
[09:43] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:43] <Baco> Art0131k gcmenler ayn0131 noktada bulu015fuyor sende gel sende ye ol yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam gcmenlerin ve genclerin tek bulu015fma noktas0131   www.gocmeniz.net
[09:43] <ianmacgregor> thoreauputic: Can we kick Baco ?
[09:43] <alumno01> hello i am rosa
[09:43] <variant> can somone kick baco please
[09:43] <alumno02> com te llamas''
[09:43] <alumno02> DEW
[09:43] <alumno02> DWE
[09:43] <alumno02> ED
[09:43] <alumno02> DEW
[09:43] <alumno02> DEW
[09:43] <alumno02> EW
[09:43] <BHSPitLappy> Hobbsee, don't stop there...
[09:43] <variant> can somone kick baco alumno02 please
[09:43] <BHSPitLappy> and 01
[09:43] <ianmacgregor> thanks Hobbsee, Madpilot
[09:44] <sandy16> how can i keep keyboard shortcut for a command?
[09:44] <ianmacgregor> sandy16: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/KeyboardShortcuts
[09:44] <upshs01> ok thanks unepton, am i right?
[09:44] <kholerabbi> When I try install compiz I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  compiz-plugins: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0.0.13.54) but 0.0.13.38-0ubuntu3 is to be installed.
[09:44] <variant> wrabbit^: be aware though that there may still be a few bugs that cause you to reinstall, it's not perfect
[09:45] <wrabbit^> variant: as long as I don't lose my /home partition, I don't have any worries
[09:45] <variant> wrabbit^: it seems to work perfectly for me, i have used it for a month now
[09:45] <Jewfro> variant, there's always bugs, any version))
[09:45] <variant> wrabbit^: that shouldnt be an issue :) back it up first though if you can
[09:45] <variant> Jewfro: true
[09:45] <wrabbit^> yeah, I will
[09:45] <tmorris> how do you "back it up"?
[09:46] <Jewfro> variant, I just had to reinstall recently w/Dapper, my HDD started filling it self up, it was odd...
[09:46] <variant> tmorris: well, I recenlty made a live dvd of my installed ubuntu system using the script from www.linux-live.org
[09:46] <wrabbit^> Jewfro: with what?
[09:46] <upshs01> another thing, ubuntu is not responding to my printer hpdeskhet 656c
[09:46] <tmorris> variant, does it recover the exact image of the system?
[09:46] <Jewfro> wrabbit^, I had to re-install Dapper
[09:47] <upshs01> also disk drive is not working as well
[09:47] <variant> tmorris: it turns your installed system into a live dvd, it is not an "exact image" as it has to make some changes to allow it to run from a dvd. but wont loose any files
[09:47] <eetfunk> can anyone tell me why Universe doesnt work?  This is my sources.list file:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/fuI52a18.html .
[09:47] <variant> tmorris: there are a lot of other backup programs that ar specifically designed to make exact copys
[09:48] <ianmacgregor> variant: Did you have to install anything for that to work?
[09:49] <upshs01> anybody could help me? my printer is not working with linux, hpdesjet 565c and my disk drive is not workable too.
[09:49] <variant> ianmacgregor: the live dvd? yeah, unionfs and squashfs
[09:49] <ianmacgregor> variant: Thank you
[09:49] <variant> ianmacgregor: the system used is the same to make the slax livecd, the resulting cd/dvd is _very_ fast
[09:49] <levander> Are these screen savers already included with Dapper?  He says they use OpenGL, but I've got ones on my system that are named the same and look pretty similar.  No way my hardware could handle OpenGL.  I just tried an OpenGL screen saver (started with a 'G') and it pretty much pegged my machine.
[09:50] <variant> levander: what system do you have? (gfx card, cpu, mem
[09:50] <whyso> when will edgy be realsed non beta?
[09:50] <mnepton> Oct. 26
[09:50] <variant> whyso: 28th this month apparantly
[09:51] <kholerabbi> pct 26
[09:51] <variant> 26th*
[09:51] <whyso> very cool! ty
[09:51] <levander> variant: Matrox G400, dual PIII 550, w/ 528 MB RAM
[09:51] <variant> levander: your system should easilly handle the 3d screensavers
[09:51] <levander> variant: GLBlur, GLKnots, completely hose my system
[09:51] <variant> levander: you just need to get 3d acceleration working
[09:52] <upshs01> this is non
[09:52] <levander> variant: they run, but they peg the CPU
[09:52] <variant> levander: in a terminal type glxinf | grep direct
[09:52] <sven-tek> only if Matrox G400 is not a PCI card
[09:52] <variant> levander: in a terminal type glxinfo | grep direct
[09:52] <levander> variant: trying
[09:52] <sven-tek> if its a PCI card there is no Acceleration
[09:52] <levander> direct rendering: No
[09:52] <levander> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:52] <leftjustified> anyone know of specific problems accessing a secondary NTFS SATA HDD from an XP install under VMWare Server in Ubuntu? Very specific question, I know, but my XP box has been pwn3d and I've got 140GB of data on an NTFS drive that I must rescue, some of which will need XP apps :-/
[09:52] <variant> sven-tek: that right?
[09:53] <variant> levander: is it agp card?
[09:53] <levander> variant: i'm pretyt sure I lokoed into it awhile back, and X doesn't support hardware acceleration on the Matrox G400.
[09:53] <levander> variant: yeah, AGP 2x I believe.  It's not 4x.
[09:53] <variant> levander: you should be able to get it wroking then
[09:53] <sven-tek> right
[09:53] <levander> Actually, my CPU is working pretty heavily now.
[09:54] <variant> levander: yeah, you dont have direct rendering so your cpu is having to do all the work and the gfx card does nothing
[09:54] <sven-tek> investigate into activating the DRI for matrox cards, should have several howtos in the net
[09:54] <levander> variant: I'm about to switch video cards anyway, but thanks for info.  Real question was if those are the same screen savers included with the Dapper release.
[09:54] <variant> levander: yep
[09:55] <levander> variant: cool, I remember reading about those screensavers a loooong time ago on anandtech.com
[09:55] <variant> levander: http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_driver_features.phtml#G200/400
[09:55] <sven-tek> bye
[09:55] <levander> variant: I couldn't get them installed on Linux back then, now Dapper has them already installed for me.
[09:55] <variant> levander: hehe
[09:57] <Jewfro> anyone ever program an FTA receiver on Ubuntu?
[09:57] <levander> variant: is ReadPixel and DrawPixel the complete DRI protocol?
[09:57] <variant> levander: no idea
[09:57] <levander> variant: that's what they say they support with the G400, those two
[09:58] <variant> levander: lol, not so good eh?
[09:58] <levander> variant: they support something on the G400 anyway
[09:58] <ianmacgregor> variant: May I pm you?
[09:58] <variant> ianmacgregor: yep
[09:58] <levander> variant: I have no idea if it's godo or not, those two may be all DRI is.
[09:58] <DraconPern> argh... ubuntu installed grub in my mbr, and now I have lost some functionality for a dell laptop.. :(
[09:58] <variant> levander: no, there is much more to it than that
[09:58] <levander> I've already bought an nVidia 6200.  I'll make sure to play with DRI after I install that.
[09:59] <wrabbit^> variant: going to update now :)
[09:59] <DraconPern> if anyone has a dell laptop w/ mediadirect, I need the 3rd sector of the drive.
[09:59] <wrabbit^> variant: Will I have to reinstall drivers and codecs again or does it just upgrade the base system?
[10:00] <DraconPern> THe instruction on the website really need to indicate to use the alternate cd for dual boot
[10:00] <variant> wrabbit^: if you have proprietry graphics/wifi then you will need to reinstall tehm. audio/vid codecs will be part of the upgrade
[10:01] <DraconPern> does the install process save the mbr somewhere?
[10:01] <wrabbit^> variant: alright, thanks.  nvidia drivers may need another install then
[10:01] <variant> wrabbit^: yup
[10:02] <tristan> !beryl
[10:02] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:04] <wrabbit^> may have to wait until there aren't any other machines on in the network. 600mb is quite large.  Don't want to hog the bandwidth
[10:04] <wrabbit^> unless there is a way to shape it
[10:06] <tempted> hey there guys... can't sleep... i can't get my server to load php files, it just asks them to save them to file ... in firefox...  any help? i am a total noob when it comes to servers
[10:07] <Jewfro> G'nite all......
[10:07] <Smotang> hello, have a problem. I recently tried to install the nvidia drivers for my vidio card and when i tried to configure them it came up with this:
[10:07] <Smotang> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:07] <Smotang> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[10:07] <Smotang> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[10:07] <Smotang> command:
[10:07] <Smotang> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:07] <Smotang> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[10:07] <Smotang> from nv to nvidia.
[10:07] <tristan> hello there
[10:08] <tristan> Now that I moved to beryl from compiz my K menu is not transparent anymore, how can I get this back
[10:09] <reddeth> Hello, I'm trying to install linux to a pen/flash drive, using syslinux. I have extracted all neccissary files and when in the syslinux directory I try typing "syslinux -s /dev/sda1" and I always get a "Bash: syslinux Command not found". Am I missing something? Thank you
[10:13] <wrabbit^> reddeth, make sure you have syslinux installed.  sudo apt-get install syslinux
[10:13] <wrabbit^> oh, you're gone
[10:13] <levander> Is ntp.ubuntu.com two hours ahead for anyone else?
[10:14] <levander> variant: how the hell did you know the URL for the exact place to look for how to get a Matrox G400 working with DRI?
[10:15] <variant> levander: what do you mean?
[10:15] <variant> levander: google
[10:15] <morphix> is there any known resolution to the Jmicron controller issue? i compiled 2.6.18.1 kernel but i get other issues.
[10:15] <levander> Is there a web page that will show me the time ntp.ubuntu.com is set to?  I can't figure out why "sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" is showing a time on my machine two hours ahead of the real time.
[10:15] <levander> variant: those are some mad google skillz
[10:15] <morphix> system is pretty much unusable atm :(
[10:16] <levander> It's wierd wiki.ubuntu.com works just fine with Firefox on Ubuntu, but Firefox on XP, I get all kinds of certificate warnings.
[10:16] <variant> morphix: what issues would that be?
[10:16] <variant> levander: no idea why that might be
[10:17] <morphix> variant, the controller being totall unsupported by the latest kernel in ubuntu (2.6.15-27)
[10:18] <variant> morphix: apparantly you need to use all-generic-ide
[10:18] <variant> morphix: in the kernel
[10:19] <variant> morphix: at least to use the cd/dvd rom
[10:19] <variant> morphix: thats as far as i know so far
[10:19] <morphix> i dont have the cd/dvd rom issue.
[10:19] <variant> morphix: what issue do you have exactly? you cant boot or what?
[10:19] <morphix> that works.. its just the controller doesnt even show up as what it is
[10:19] <morphix> just says unknown ide device
[10:20] <variant> morphix: what command do you run to get that information?
[10:20] <morphix> lspci
[10:20] <variant> morphix: have you tried running update-pciids ?
[10:20] <Smotang> whats the command to list what kernel you are using in bash?
[10:20] <variant> Smotang: uname
[10:20] <Smotang> thanks
[10:20] <morphix> 0000:02:00.0 IDE interface: Unknown device 197b:2363 (rev 02)
[10:20] <morphix> ^^^
[10:20] <levander> oh hell, ntp was right, i was wrong (looking at clock on other computer that I had had motherboard out for two days)
[10:20] <levander> gotta go to sleep...
[10:20] <variant> morphix: have you tried running update-pciids ?
[10:21] <morphix> heh.. well that shows it as there
[10:21] <morphix> but i still cant access any drives connected to it (2 hdds)
[10:21] <variant> morphix: are they sata?
[10:22] <morphix> no. ide
[10:22] <variant> morphix: what are youdoing to to access them exactly?
[10:22] <morphix> i cant access them in anyway
[10:22] <morphix> they dont show in /dev or disk manager
[10:22] <rhett> i just put the 6.06 ubuntu cd in
[10:22] <rhett> how do i get dual displays to work?
[10:23] <totall_6_7> rhett: have you installed ubuntu yet?
[10:23] <morphix> all that is working is my system drive (sata) and my dvdrw drive (on the intel ide)
[10:23] <rhett> no
[10:23] <totall_6_7> then i dont believe you will get dual displays to work
[10:24] <morphix> its getting to the point i might just go back to windows
[10:24] <sixmokes> ls
[10:24] <sixmokes> w
[10:25] <sixmokes> doh
[10:25] <HumanPrototype> morning all
[10:26] <morphix> i thought compiling 2.6.18.1 would work.. but it hangs upon boot
[10:26] <ceerrff> how do i recompile the stock kernel, i don't need new kernel source
[10:26] <HumanPrototype> ceerrff: recompile your current kernel?
[10:26] <ceerrff> yeah, with some changes to the config
[10:27] <HumanPrototype> ceerrff: i think you need the linux-source package for your kernel
[10:27] <HumanPrototype> ceerrff: then you put it in /usr/src and link /usr/src/linux to it and there is a program for editing the options - i think there is a guide on the forums
[10:34] <ubuntu> holadfsdf
[10:35] <ubuntu> hola
[10:36] <jenda> Does anyone here use bip?
[10:36] <jenda> whoa, was that 9 minutes of near silence in #ubuntu ???
[10:36] <rhett> if i unstall ubuntu, does it help me back up old files?
[10:36] <rhett> from fedora?
[10:36] <jenda> rhett: depends...
[10:37] <jenda> do you have a seperate home partition?
[10:37] <jenda> /home, that is.
[10:37] <rhett> i don't think so
[10:37] <jenda> :(
[10:37] <jenda> baaad :)
[10:37] <SilentDis> one I learned the hard way myself hehe
[10:38] <jenda> rhett: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[10:39] <variant> morphix: sorry about that, i was busy (at work)
[10:39] <variant> morphix: I will be with you in a couple of minnits
[10:39] <morphix> ok.
[10:39] <rhett> i think my disk is /dev/hdc
[10:39] <rhett> just boot and one more partition
[10:40] <leftjustified> is there a way to force eject a dvd drive in ubuntu?
[10:40] <jenda> ok...
[10:40] <morphix> sudo eject
[10:40] <leftjustified> thanks
[10:40] <jenda> rhett: in that case, I'm afraid you'll have to backup manually...
[10:40] <variant> leftjustified: push a pin into the hole in the front
[10:40] <leftjustified> variant: tried that. no luck
[10:40] <jenda> rhett: you can back up to a new partition that you'll later use as /home
[10:40] <variant> leftjustified: what do you mean no luck? that litteraly forces the drive bay out
[10:41] <leftjustified> it didn't
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> have you considered that the internals have all melted together
[10:41] <leftjustified> varient: my laptop is cursed. I'm lucky it even booted :D
[10:41] <variant> leftjustified: lol, somtimes hard to hit the right spot anbd you may have to push quite hard
[10:41] <variant> lol
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> true
[10:41] <leftjustified> all good now, sudo eject did it
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> haha
[10:41] <jenda> Nobody uses bip?
[10:41] <jenda> aww
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> bip?
[10:41] <SilentDis> never herd of bip.  what is it?
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> !info bip
[10:42] <ubotu> bip: multiuser irc proxy with conversation replay and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 192 kB
[10:42] <richard_> when is the next release of ubuntu?
[10:42] <variant> morphix: as far as I can see the controller is supported
[10:42] <variant> richard_: 26th oct
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> sounds interesting
[10:42] <thoreauputic> richard_: about oct 26
[10:42] <morphix> variant, in dapper?
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> but I don't feel like using it
[10:42] <variant> morphix: what is the lspci output now that you updated the pciids?
[10:42] <richard_> i see... less than ten days ;)
[10:42] <BHSPitLappy> week from tomorrow!
[10:43] <richard_> im kinda excited
[10:43] <BHSPitLappy> yeah
[10:43] <leftjustified> shame I have to fix a b0rked winbloze box tonight or I'd wait :(
[10:43] <SilentDis> i'm excited/scared about the new release.
[10:43] <morphix> variant, 0000:02:00.0 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 02)
[10:43] <BHSPitLappy> leftjustified, "fix"? like, install ubuntu?
[10:43] <richard_> why scared?
[10:43] <BHSPitLappy> that's how I fix windows boxen these days
[10:43] <leftjustified> BHPPitLappy: bingo ;)
[10:43] <SilentDis> i'm in the middle of nowhere on dialup (nothing faster available, and $700 for satellite with 3000ms ping doesn't interest me)
[10:43] <variant> morphix: and what kernel are you using?
[10:44] <SilentDis> i'm scared how many days it'll take me to pull :P
[10:44] <morphix> 2.6.15-27.. the latest kernel you can get for dapper via aptitude
[10:44] <BHSPitLappy> SilentDis, what about gprs?
[10:44] <leftjustified> BHSPitLappy: Flatten Primary; Install Ubuntu; Install VMWare Server; Install XP. hehe
[10:44] <SilentDis> gprs?
[10:44] <variant> morphix: so, perhaps you have to upgrade?
[10:44] <BHSPitLappy> SilentDis, or whatever it is, that you get from a cell provider.
[10:44] <nikin> hy
[10:45] <SilentDis> no cell towers in my area that offer it.
[10:45] <morphix> variant, upgrade to what? there isnt anything newer
[10:45] <variant> morphix: edgy is very stable considering it's an development release
[10:45] <BHSPitLappy> man, you ARE in the middle of nowhere.
[10:45] <SilentDis> not really, that's the funny part lol
[10:45] <morphix> variant, edgy doesnt boot either.. no matter WHAT kernel parameters i use
[10:45] <rixth> OK, khubd is using 100% CPU, has a nice value of -5, and won't even respond to a SIGKILL. How do I kill it?
[10:45] <SilentDis> i'm 2 miles outside of a small 500 person town (no dsl).
[10:46] <morphix> variant, i have to disconnect any devices connected to the intel ide controller to use edgy
[10:46] <nikin> i try to connect my phone via bluetooth. but i cannot pair it coz Linux never asks for the pairing code...
[10:46] <morphix> variant, which is stupid
[10:46] <SilentDis> i'm 20 min drive along the interstate to a super wal-mart/civilization/etc
[10:46] <variant> Sorry mate, don't think I can help
[10:46] <morphix> :(
[10:46] <morphix> this blows..
[10:46] <variant> morphix: in future buy supported hardware
[10:46] <thoreauputic> SilentDis: interesting definition of civilisation there...
[10:47] <HumanPrototype> nikin: i think there is a text file in /etc somewhere with the machines code in
[10:47] <variant> morphix: give it a couple of weeks. actualy, most other people seem to manage
[10:47] <morphix> variant, well nearly every asus boards i have bought.. has worked fine with ubuntu
[10:47] <nikin> Human ty.. gona look around
[10:47] <morphix> variant, yeh well i CANT manage without 2 of my drives
[10:47] <SilentDis> i'm far enough away that no one bothers me, and close enough that stuff is still conveniant.  i note the super wal-mart because it's the first thing off the interstate to the tourist trap it's in lol
[10:47] <morphix> they have my work on them
[10:48] <HumanPrototype> morphix: could you get a pci ide card and connect them on that instead?
[10:48] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i have no other card.. and no spare cash atm to grab one
[10:49] <morphix> might see if suse *shudder* works
[10:49] <HumanPrototype> morphix: why do you need edgy? whats wrong with dapper?
[10:49] <morphix> HumanPrototype, controller card doesnt work in dapper (because the kernel doesnt support it)
[10:50] <morphix> apparently someone messed up the support for it..
[10:50] <morphix> it detects.. but doesnt work
[10:50] <nikin> HumanProt: its working.. ty :D
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> morphix: cant you build a new kernel from source on dapper
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> nikin: glad i cld help
[10:50] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i'm in dapper atm.. compiling the 2.6.18.1 kernel.. yet again
[10:51] <variant> HumanPrototype: of course you can
[10:51] <HumanPrototype> morphix: http://www.kernel.org
[10:52] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i've already downloaded the kernel source. and am compiling right now, ive done this about 10 times already
[10:52] <HumanPrototype> morphix: brb
[10:53] <jenkins> anyone here know something about NIS ?
[10:53] <jenkins> <== looking for help NIS server and client
[10:53] <variant> jenkins: what do you want to know about it?
[10:53] <jenkins> I've read all the docs,
[10:53] <jenkins> installed the software
[10:53] <jenkins> set up the client
[10:53] <jenkins> and server
[10:54] <jenkins> yet it refuses to bind
[10:54] <jenkins> to the domain
[10:54] <nathalie> ik moet messengerlive hebben
[10:54] <grubenpony> !nl
[10:54] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[10:54] <jenkins> ypbind to localhost works
[10:54] <jenkins> ypserv -p shows the connection from localhost
[10:54] <jenkins> but no other client can connect
[10:55] <jenkins> iptables are flushed, no firewall
[10:55] <jenkins> ping to server and to name respond
[10:56] <jenkins> any ideas ?
[10:56] <variant> jenkins: not i sorry, somone else perhaps
[10:58] <xipietotec> someone awhile ago had given me a command to force a root file check upon reboot, anyone know what it is?
[10:59] <variant> xipietotec: the default is to do a fsck if you use shutdown afaik
[10:59] <xipietotec> err....I get a root file check every 30 mounts
[10:59] <thoreauputic> xipietotec:  sudo shutdown -h -F now  ( the -F forces a fsck)
[10:59] <variant> xipietotec: yeah
[11:00] <thoreauputic> oops I mean -r not -h
[11:00] <xipietotec> oh, cool! thanks thoreauputic (writes it down this time)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> xipietotec: not -h ( that's halt)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> xipietotec: use -r to reboot, -F to force a fsck
[11:01] <xipietotec> cool cool! =) thankye
[11:01] <thoreauputic> xipietotec:  "man shutdown" is worth a look ;p
[11:03] <xipietotec> I didn't think about shutdown, I was looking in fsck and e2fsck, and got waaaayyy confused.
[11:06] <wabbit> hi all. I've just been tryin to install the latest alsa drive and I get this error. configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[11:06] <variant> morphix: i found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[11:06] <variant> wabbit: apt-get install ncurses
[11:06] <wabbit> I have libncurses5 installed
[11:06] <variant> wabbit: hmm ok
[11:06] <grubenpony> wabbit: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[11:06] <morphix> variant, yeh.. i've already looked at that too
[11:06] <wabbit> the ./configure takes a --with-curses argument. Do I pass a value here
[11:07] <variant> morphix: so there you have your answer
[11:07] <variant> wabbit: try what grubenpony suggests
[11:07] <grubenpony> wabbit: if you compile something using a library, you need the -dev package for that library installed
[11:07] <jenda_> how the hell can I make bip work :(
[11:07] <variant> wabbit: if still not working look at the output from the ./configure and see exactly what file it is checking for that fails
[11:07] <variant> jenkins: what is bip?
[11:07] <antotero> 310762
[11:07] <morphix> variant, there isnt really a resolution.. i have to install edgy and compile the kernel.. the problem there is.. i cant even boot edgy
[11:08] <SilentDis> beddybye time.  g'night all
[11:08] <variant> morphix: if its just hte kernel then why dont you use dapper and upgrade the kenrel?
[11:08] <variant> s/kenrel/kernel
[11:08] <wabbit> variant: I'm giving that a try
[11:08] <morphix> variant, i would have to manually compile 2.6.17?
[11:09] <variant> morphix: no, 2.6.18
[11:09] <morphix> variant, i've compiled 2.6.18.1 many times and it still wont work
[11:11] <wabbit> grubenpony: thanks libncurses5-dev did the trick
[11:11] <wabbit> variant: thanks
[11:11] <variant> wabbit: np, glad you got it working
[11:11] <HumanPrototype> how do i set my gtk2 theme in fluxbox?
[11:11] <Haesufin> what could be causing slow internet connection if any in ubuntu?
[11:11] <variant> morphix: sorry mate, guess your just going to have to wait till it becomes more stable
[11:12] <variant> Haesufin: programs which use the network running in the background
[11:12] <morphix> brb.. trying the latest compile of 2.6.18.1
[11:12] <variant> Haesufin: how do you connect to the netowkr?
[11:12] <Haesufin> synaptic wont connect gaim wont, firefox barely
[11:13] <Haesufin> i connect  via lan
[11:13] <Badkitty> Stupid question: I installed a daily build of edgy... but it didn't ask for a login name only a password.. what would the default name be?
[11:13] <variant> Haesufin: ok, is the internet connection an adsl modem or what? what kind of lan is it? are we talking 1000's of users or just you?
[11:13] <Haesufin> i have a dlink dsl-504t
[11:13] <jenda_> Does anyone use bip?
[11:13] <Haesufin> all my MS comp work fine
[11:14] <variant> jenkins: what is bip?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: odd - try "ubuntu" ?
[11:14] <Haesufin> i think its dns
[11:14] <Badkitty> I did :-(
[11:14] <variant> Haesufin: does your router assign the dns server?
[11:14] <variant> Haesufin: do you use dhcp or static?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: so you can't login at all ?
[11:15] <Badkitty> thats right
[11:15] <Haesufin> i entered the dns addresses from the router into dns and search domain
[11:15] <Haesufin> yes
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: bug report time.... bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <variant> Haesufin: have you tried using dhcp?
[11:15] <Haesufin> yep
[11:15] <variant> Haesufin: most dhcp servers are configed to provide dns entrys
[11:15] <Haesufin> no good
[11:16] <variant> have you tried static config?
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Badkitty: ask in #ubuntu+1 to confirm
[11:16] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: try setting a static ip and manually setting you dns server
[11:16] <Haesufin> if i enter a static address the i at least get a connection
[11:16] <Haesufin> but its still slow
[11:16] <variant> Haesufin: probably your dhcp server is borked.. or the router is some pos
[11:16] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: have you set the dns manually?
[11:16] <Haesufin> variant>i think so
[11:17] <Badkitty> Thanks... its OEM
[11:17] <Haesufin> yes i set it maually i think
[11:17] <Haesufin> i entered the dns addresses into the dns tab in networking
[11:18] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: are you on wireless or wired?
[11:18] <Haesufin> both dns and search domain
[11:18] <Haesufin> wired
[11:18] <variant> Haesufin: what speed conneection do you ahve?
[11:18] <Haesufin> xubuntu gets the same result
[11:18] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: try opening a terminal and entering sudo ipconfig <interface> netmask <netmask> broadcast <broadcast>
[11:18] <Haesufin> 512
[11:18] <morphix> doesnt work :'(
[11:19] <thoreauputic> HumanPrototype: *cough* ifconfig
[11:19] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: then use sudo route add default gw <gateway address>
[11:19] <thoreauputic> HumanPrototype: this isn't windows  :)
[11:19] <jojo`> bonjour tlm
[11:19] <jojo`> j'ai besoin d'aide
[11:19] <thoreauputic> !fr
[11:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:19] <HumanPrototype> thoreauputic: darn, and if im on a windows machine i norm try and use ifconfig. my excuse is im forced to use them at work
[11:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> Haesufin: sorry if you didnt picl that up - thats meant to be ifconfig not ipconfig
[11:20] <jojo`> how to update apahce2 ?
[11:20] <jojo`> apache2
[11:21] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade should update your system
[11:21] <Haesufin> brb
[11:21] <jojo`> let me test
[11:21] <variant> morphix: your out of luck then i suppose. unless your prepared to keep slogging away at it. give the linux prepatch version a shot
[11:21] <variant> morphix: http://kernel.org/patchtypes/pre.html
[11:23] <morphix> variant, i've been compiling since 10am this morning.. and was doing it up until 5am yesterday.. its now 7:22
[11:23] <morphix> pm
[11:23] <progek> Hello all, everytime I start my computer I need to-> sudo killall nautilus     in order to get my desktop working right. Will I basically need to include this line in my startup or is their a more elegant way?
[11:23] <variant> morphix: thats what happens under these circumstances im afraid
[11:23] <variant> progek: odd..
[11:23] <jojo`> HumanPrototype: do I need to restart ?
[11:23] <variant> progek: your using dapper, upto date ?
[11:24] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: just restart apache (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[11:25] <jojo`> how can I check it's the last version ?
[11:26] <ircnewb> Hello im new to ubuntu, and i plugged in my usb memory jump drive, but ubuntu, won't show it
[11:26] <ircnewb> its on device manager
[11:26] <ircnewb> how do i mount it or something
[11:26] <jojo`> still 2.0.55
[11:26] <jojo`> not 2.0.59
[11:27] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: try using disks under the administration menu
[11:27] <bimberi> !info apache2
[11:27] <jojo`> I need to install the last
[11:27] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:27] <jojo`> tx
[11:27] <jojo`> thx
[11:27] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: then ubuntu doesnt have the latest version in the repos
[11:27] <bimberi> jojo`: that's the latest in ubuntu
[11:27] <bimberi> (dapper)
[11:27] <bimberi> !info apache2 edgy
[11:27] <variant> ircnewb: it should be an icon on the desktop
[11:28] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:28] <bimberi> (and edgy too :)  )
[11:28] <ircnewb> well..its like my phone actually
[11:28] <variant> ircnewb: what version of ubuntu you using?
[11:28] <ircnewb> when i use to plug it in to windows box
[11:28] <ircnewb> it would show it as a usb storage device
[11:28] <variant> ircnewb: its your phone?
[11:28] <ircnewb> yea it has a memory card in it
[11:28] <ircnewb> a sim card
[11:28] <variant> ircnewb: i see, you probably need gnoki2
[11:28] <jojo`> I updated my packages with synaptic
[11:28] <kling0n> how would I go about getting extra charset support for ubuntu? I have been looking at the results from 'apt-cache search locale' but wht I need is basically locale support for ISO-8859-1 for mount.cifs
[11:28] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: open a term and use dmsg to find out what it is (sda, sdb etc)
[11:29] <jojo`> but not the last versions apache2 and PHP
[11:29] <kling0n>  how would I go about getting extra charset support for ubuntu? I have been looking at the results from 'apt-cache search locale' but wht I need is basically locale support for ISO-8859-1 for mount.cifs
[11:29] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: then you will need to install them from another repo or download and compile from source
[11:29] <jojo`> I downloaded it
[11:29] <kling0n> not sure whether that same out as a double-post ...
[11:29] <jojo`> I made ./configure
[11:30] <jojo`> but after ?
[11:30] <ircnewb> what command is that HumanPrototype
[11:30] <ircnewb> ? dmsg
[11:30] <ircnewb> newb here
[11:30] <variant> ircnewb: open gnome-terminal and type dmesg
[11:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell jojo` about compiling
[11:30] <variant> ircnewb: imediatly after plugging in your phone
[11:30] <ircnewb> ok
[11:30] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: there is normally an INSTALL file with instructions
[11:31] <variant> ircnewb: what make/model phone is it?
[11:31] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: look for sda or sdb or something similar
[11:31] <ircnewb> e398 gsm phone
[11:31] <ircnewb> is what device manager says it is
[11:31] <ircnewb> but its a motorola l6
[11:31] <HumanPrototype> then you can enter "sudo mount /dev/sd<whatever came out of dmesg> /media/phone"
[11:31] <progek> Hey everyone, I compiled some opengl programs from Nehe and they run very slow. I know it's not my machine because i'm running XGL without a problem. Any ideas? :/
[11:32] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: you may need to "sudo mkdir /media/phone" first
[11:32] <variant> progek: probably xgl is the problem
[11:32] <jojo`> it doesn't find made command
[11:32] <jojo`> ^^ :P
[11:33] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: the command is make
[11:33] <jojo`> yeah I meant make
[11:33] <jojo`> bash: make : commande introuvable
[11:33] <progek> variant: Thanks, but I'm running an Athlon64 3700+ with a 3d capable nvidia card. I have direct rendering on and can play opengl games fine. It's just these examples from nehe. The example was like a spinning small block
[11:33] <jojo`> strange
[11:33] <HumanPrototype> jojo`: try sudo aptitude install build-essential then rerun ./configure before trying make again
[11:33] <thoreauputic> jojo`:  install the build-esential package
[11:33] <variant> progek: what is nehe
[11:33] <jojo`> ok
[11:34] <progek> and also an example of a simple first person maze
[11:34] <variant> progek: xgl can still be the problem, it really doesnt matter how good your hardware is with xgl as it can interfere in very unexpected ways being alpha software
[11:35] <vanhtu1987> Hi, anyone answer this question please: How can I set the limit wrong-password attempts for sshd ?. I've been getting a lot of dictionary attacks lately. The man pages didn't show useful information.
[11:35] <variant> progek: and you use proprietry drivers from nvidia which is annother spanner in the works.. very hard to troubleshoot that kind of problem and not much to do to fix it if you find the problem
[11:36] <ircnewb> hey HumanPrototype, dmesg keeps saying something about bluetooth
[11:36] <morphix> anyone here compiled 2.6.18.1 kernel for ubuntu and wouldnt mind sending me their .config file?
[11:37] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I did for the newest kernel, but what is keeping you from doing it yourself ?
[11:37] <bionoid> vanhtu1987: there is a sshd patch called timelox that will probably do what you want. Originally for openbsd only but linux port here http://www.overflow.no/stuff/ssh-4.4p1+timelox+chroot.tgz
[11:37] <vanhtu1987> bionoid: Thank you, I'm looking at it now.
[11:37] <morphix> vanhtu1987, well i have compiled it MANY times and still gets errors booting up.. thinking maybe i chose something wrong in kernel config
[11:37] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: do you have bluetooth on that pc?
[11:38] <ircnewb> unfortunally no :-(
[11:38] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: does the phone?
[11:38] <ircnewb> yea
[11:38] <variant> vanhtu1987: this link might help you: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/060534.html
[11:38] <bionoid> morphix: what happens?
[11:38] <vanhtu1987> morphix: Did you try 'make menuconfig' or 'make oldconfig' ?
[11:38] <vanhtu1987> variant: Thanks.
[11:38] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: im not sure but i suppose it could be trying to use the phone as a usb bluetooth device...
[11:38] <variant> vanhtu1987: the problem is that he has an unssuported hardware which the 2.6.18 kernel has an experimental patch for
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179607.920000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179607.932000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  NET: Registered protocol family 31
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.740000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.824000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.824000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[11:39] <progek> variant: sorry I got d/c. Did you get my last post?
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[11:39] <ircnewb> [17179608.884000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7
[11:39] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: dont post like that
[11:39] <variant> ircnewb: please dont paste that here
[11:39] <ircnewb> whoops
[11:39] <ircnewb> sorry
[11:39] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: use www.pastebin.com
[11:39] <variant> progek: no, please repeat
[11:39] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: thats ok - just dont do it in future - if its more than one line then paste bin it and you will have a link you can give us
[11:40] <morphix> bionoid, some errors trying to initiate ide controllers.. and such.. and randomly lucks up during boot.. such when loading ipv6 tunneling over ipv4
[11:40] <Haesufin> no good: bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[11:40] <ircnewb> so its a sda drive i guess
[11:40] <morphix> vanhtu1987, tried using both
[11:40] <troytroy> woow been a while since i came to ubuntu :)
[11:40] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb:from the looks of it its picked it up as a bluetooth device and a disk
[11:40] <progek> ok, well I'm running an Athlon64 3700+, 3D capable nVidia gfx card with direct rendering on. XGL runs fast and so do 3d games however some examples from nehe that I compile myself have extreme lag. Even simple examples like a small cube that just spins
[11:40] <HumanPrototype> so its sda (first line of what you pasted)
[11:40] <ircnewb> yea
[11:40] <troytroy> i have been trying suse and os tiger
[11:41] <ircnewb> stick with tiger
[11:41] <ircnewb> :-)
[11:41] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: so now try this "sudo mkdir /media/phone && sudo mount /dev/sda /media/phone"
[11:41] <Chandy> I want to know how the Debian pacakge search results page is coming
[11:41] <tuqann> hi, quick question, I want to get avg-free edition for ubuntu, there are three versions for linux, which one should I get from this list:
[11:41] <tuqann> avg71flm-r30-a0791.i386.rpm7.1.0030
[11:41] <tuqann> avg71flr-r30-a0791.i386.rpm7.1.0030
[11:41] <tuqann> avg71fls-r30-a0791.i386.rpm
[11:41] <troytroy> ircnewb: why stick with tiger?
[11:41] <ircnewb> cause its apple
[11:41] <ircnewb> :-)
[11:41] <HumanPrototype> tuqann: they are all rpms and really you want a deb
[11:41] <ircnewb> and based on unix
[11:42] <ircnewb> unix pwns all
[11:42] <Chandy> sorry ..Ubuntu package search results page is comibng
[11:42] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: linux is based on unix too...
[11:42] <DrSpin> how do I disable the kernel's AGPGART?
[11:42] <troytroy> anybody installed dapper on tiger via parallels
[11:42] <ircnewb> ehh..but its not built on the unix kernel
[11:42] <ircnewb> isn't it its own kernel?
[11:42] <DrSpin> used to be /etc/hotplug/blacklist --- not there :/
[11:42] <tuqann> HumanPrototype: k, where should I look then, I'm very new to ubuntu
[11:43] <fdoving> DrSpin: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:43] <Haesufin> what does -->bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline' mean?
[11:43] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I'd be happy to send you the config file, but it probably doesn't help much.
[11:44] <morphix> vanhtu1987, it would atleast giving something to base upon
[11:44] <troytroy> anybody installed dapper on tiger via parallels-desktop pls?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> ircnewb: the linux kernel actuall orks better than theOS-X mach kernel
[11:44] <thoreauputic> *works
[11:45] <jojo`> still apache 2.0.55 :(
[11:45] <ircnewb> but the eye candy of apple... (dr00l)
[11:45] <DrSpin> added "blacklist agpgart" -- still loaded.... trying with both "blacklist sis_agp" and "blacklist agpgart"
[11:45] <jojo`> it's hard
[11:45] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: its a fork and also - in case u hadnt worked it out - telling people not to use linux and that mac is better on a linux  forum isnt going to make you popular
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ircnewb: http://xwinman.org  :)
[11:45] <DrSpin> linux on a mac :)
[11:45] <HumanPrototype> ircnewb: have you seen aiglx and beryl?
[11:45] <tdn> How do I mount a cdrom iso that is contained in a .bin and a .cue file?
[11:45] <DrSpin> perfect harmony
[11:45] <Werdnum> !ubotu
[11:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:45] <thoreauputic> DrSpin: I use linux on my iBook :)
[11:46] <DrSpin> :)
[11:46] <jojo`> I 'm going to replace ubuntu with freebsd
[11:46] <ircnewb> aren't those still in alpha stages?
[11:46] <jojo`> ubuntu sucks for web
[11:46] <DrSpin> I use it on my powerbook 3500C as a think client
[11:46] <variant> jerb: for web? what does that mean?
[11:46] <HumanPrototype> tuqann: try searching the forums for a howto for avg
[11:46] <troytroy> what is subversion
[11:47] <variant> jerb: i use openbsd as a webserver, its very good and stable but i have found ubuntu to be simmilar in performance
[11:47] <_Rappy_> troytroy: is a version management system
[11:47] <vanhtu1987> morphix: Different computer specs would require different configurations, I'm running a Acer laptop, which is probably not what you want. The best route is based your new config file on the current config file of Ubuntu. Or, as variant said, perhaps that was your hardware that is incompatible with the new kernel. In that case a bug report may halp.
[11:47] <Werdnum> who coded ubotu?
[11:47] <variant> jojo`: for web? what does that mean?
[11:47] <Roberto> hello :)
[11:47] <variant> jojo`: i use openbsd as a webserver, its very good and stable but i have found ubuntu to be simmilar in performance
[11:48] <DraconPern> is there a problem on updates?
[11:48] <morphix> vanhtu1987, yeh i know different specs, dif config.. i might just try oldconfig again
[11:48] <variant> Werdnum: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:48] <morphix> vanhtu1987, i have compiled it so many times i'm beginning to give up..
[11:48] <Chandy> Hey, What tools ubuntu is using to create and update its  website and wiki
[11:48] <DraconPern> I can't install any updates, it just says, download failed.
[11:48] <troytroy> _Rappy_: ok thanks
[11:49] <vanhtu1987> morphix: May you 'blindly' take the standard config file and compile the kernel right away ? It would give out some error but it'll ensure your new config stays closest to the current configuration.
[11:49] <DraconPern> this happens when doing sudo apt-get also...
[11:49] <morphix> vanhtu1987, i'll see what that does then
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Werdnum: ubotu is a blootbot
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !info blootbot
[11:49] <thoreauputic> hmmm no blootbot in ubuntu? interesting.....
[11:49] <DraconPern> yet I can do a wget...
[11:49] <ubotu> blootbot: a severely modified infobot for IRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-4 (dapper), package size 242 kB, installed size 968 kB
[11:49] <thoreauputic> yes it is there..
[11:49] <vanhtu1987> morphix: Yup, good luck!.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !blootbot
[11:52] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I'd like to comment that using custom kernel might not be the best way, as you'll not benefit from Ubuntu updates and even may render your existing softwares incompatible, it's not worth the effort IMO, to gain a few CPU cycles. Unless you want some features not supported in the standard config.
[11:52] <t0taln00b> yo gyus and gals
[11:52] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: the standard config file is probably not the best choice, because you need to build a initial ramdisk to be able to boot. i always take the standard config and change things like ide/sata/ext3 to compiled into the kernel image (not as modules)
[11:52] <kaptengu> I can't add a web calendar in Evolution, I klick add webcalendar, but nothing happens
[11:52] <kaptengu> tried to reinstall, but no change
[11:52] <morphix> vanhtu1987, i dont really want to customise it.. just want ubuntu to actually WORK on this pc with full support of all ide/sata controllers
[11:53] <kaptengu> anyone has experienced this?
[11:53] <vanhtu1987> grubenpony: It's good to know that, thanks, that's one of the reasons running a custom kernel is more touble than it's worth.
[11:53] <vanhtu1987> morphix: I see...
[11:53] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: well, it depends on your experience with building a custom kernel
[11:54] <DraconPern> so.. I need help, I don't know why software update can't download anything
[11:54] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: but in most cases, building an own kernel isn't needed
[11:55] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: can you ping the archive server?
[11:55] <vanhtu1987> grubenpony: Yup, I've compiled for one desktop and my laptop, with many failure of course, but they're running now. May you give morphix some suggestions ?.
[11:55] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: have you tried using apt-get or aptitude from a terminal?
[11:55] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: yes, I can ping it
[11:56] <DraconPern> I can even download the failed file
[11:56] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: what about apt-get then?
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> so, anyone on how to change ownership of paths?
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> changing ownership of `/media/sda1': Operation not permitted
[11:56] <thoreauputic> eg sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <DraconPern> apt-get fails
[11:56] <morghanphoenix> sudo chown phoenix.phoenix /media/sda1
[11:57] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: have you tried changing mirrors ?
[11:57] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: it seems sudo doesn't have access to networking
[11:57] <thoreauputic> morghanphoenix: /media dirs are owned by root - why are you changing them?
[11:57] <grubenpony> vanhtu1987: i don't know what his original problem is
[11:58] <Chandy> May I know who is the maintainer for ubuntu website
[11:58] <variant> morghanphoenix: what is your username?
[11:58] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: apt-get can't connect to any server
[11:58] <morghanphoenix> It is owned by root, I had to manuallly mount it
[11:58] <morghanphoenix> phoenix
[11:58] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: umm... I don't follow you - what happens if you do  sudo -i to get a root shell, then run apt-get ?
[11:58] <variant> morghanphoenix: sudo chown -R phoenix /media/sda1
[11:58] <variant> morghanphoenix: sudo chgrp -R phoenix /media/sda1
[11:58] <morphix> grubenpony, my original problem  is because currently dappers kernel has a problem with this >> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[11:59] <TeemuR> i just installed flash but it wont work when i go to youtube firefox tells me that i dont have flash installed. i also tried using google video it doesnt work either
[11:59] <morghanphoenix> Operation not permitted.
[11:59] <tuqann> k, can anyone help me login as "root"
[11:59] <DraconPern> thoreauputic: it fails to connect to every server
[11:59] <morghanphoenix> to the whole recursive list
[12:00] <thoreauputic> DraconPern: OK - well I'm running out of ideas, sorry
[12:00] <grubenpony> morphix: sorry, i have no experience with problematic sata controllers
[12:01] <morphix> grubenpony, apparently in 2.6.18.1 its fixed.. so all i need is a default kernel compiled.. one that actually works in ubuntu lol
[12:01] <morghanphoenix> It's usb if that makes a diference.
[12:01] <grubenpony> morphix: so you just don't know which kernel config to use?
[12:02] <morphix> grubenpony, pretty much
[12:02] <grubenpony> morphix: and i don't know your hardware. so its not an easy task.
[12:03] <morphix> grubenpony, my motherboard is a asus p5w dh deluxe, graphics card is nvidia 7600gt
[12:04] <morphix> i can compile it.. i just need a config which isnt buggered (which i think i keep messing something up)
[12:04] <grubenpony> gruberman: board names tell me nothing. i need to know the sata chipset.
[12:06] <morphix> grubenpony, Intel ICH7, JMicron JMB363 & Sillicon Image 4723
[12:07] <grubenpony> morphix: hmm, no experience with one of those. i only know intel sata controllers.
[12:09] <morphix> grubenpony, well i am only using the intel ich7 sata and jmicron jmb363 pata
[12:10] <grubenpony> morphix: yeah, but i simply don't know this jmicron sh*t
[12:10] <variant> grubenpony: it is not supported in anything below 2.6.18 and that support is alpha
[12:11] <grubenpony> variant: omg
[12:11] <morphix> its supported in 2.6.17 via a patch
[12:11] <variant> morphix: where is the patch? i only ever heard somone sugest that that was a good idea.. not that it was available
[12:12] <morphix> grubenpony, could atleast make me a config that works with intel ich7? i could work from that
[12:12] <Roberto> I just installed Monodevelop (0.12) from Ubuntu Edgy, but there is no component in the components palette... any idea?
[12:12] <grubenpony> morphix: ich7 should be supported by either ata_piix or ahci drivers
[12:13] <variant> Roberto: you might be best to ask in #ubuntu+1 and #mono
[12:13] <dhq> how do i download all the files etc from my server using wget
[12:13] <morphix> grubenpony, yes but can atleast make me a normal config? as i dont exactly know what to choose for everything else.
[12:13] <grubenpony> morphix: compile scsi support, scsi disk support and the sata driver (ata_piix or ahci) into the kernel (not as modules)
[12:13] <variant> dhq: via ftp: wget -r ftp://etcetc.org
[12:14] <variant> dhq: via ftp: wget -r ftp://etcetc.org/*
[12:14] <morphix> variant, the patch is at http://distfiles.evolution-mission.org/sources/2.6.17/emission8/broken-out/031-jmicron-ide-2.6.17.patch
[12:14] <grubenpony> morphix: i have a rather stripped down config for 2.6.17.1 here. i don't know if it suits the rest of your hardware though.
[12:15] <morphix> intel hda audio. nvidia graphics.. thats pretty much it
[12:15] <variant> Basic support for the JMicron ATA controllers. For full support
[12:15] <variant> +	  use the libata drivers
[12:15] <morphix> core 2 duo cpu
[12:15] <grubenpony> variant: libata is only the generic part of the driver
[12:15] <variant> grubenpony: yeah, im just reading from the patch
[12:18] <morphix> or if someone has 2.6.17 installed could they send me the config for it
[12:18] <dhq> variant: its a http
[12:18] <dhq> variant: when i use that command only the html and gif files copy i need all the files
[12:19] <grubenpony> morphix: wait
[12:19] <dhq> Warning: wildcards not supported in HTTP.
[12:19] <morphix> ok
[12:20] <grubenpony> morphix: which network card(s)?
[12:21] <wrabbit^> Hey guys.... I used automatix to install the nvidia drivers this morning.  Is that a no no considering the driver security problem that has arisen?
[12:21] <wrabbit^> or does automatix install the nv drivers?
[12:21] <mnepton> wrabbit^: the binary drivers are included in Restricted
[12:21] <morphix> oops
[12:22] <mnepton> wrabbit^: and using "nvidia" instead of "nv" is an "it's your funeral" type of thing
[12:22] <morphix> closed xchat by accident.
[12:22] <whyso_> how do i change the default application for opening a filetype?
[12:22] <wrabbit^> mnepton: Is there a way to check which one I have installed?
[12:22] <grubenpony> morphix: which network card(s) do you have?
[12:23] <mnepton> whyso_: right-click -> properties -> open with
[12:23] <whyso_> thanks
[12:23] <morphix> grubenpony, marvell yukon  88E8053 gigabit
[12:24] <progek> Hi all, ok, I just compiled and ran a simple nehe opengl example which draws a flat triangle on the screen. This application among other examples take up 100% cpu usage. This is not normal is it?
[12:24] <whyso_> but that doesnt change the type when i click on later
[12:24] <morphix> grubenpony, audio is realtek alc882m
[12:24] <mnepton> wrabbit^: which is installed, or which you are using?
[12:24] <whyso_> is there a terminal command to make the default open for a file type?
[12:24] <wrabbit^> mnepton: I don't know which one automatix2 installed for me.
[12:25] <mnepton> wrabbit^: use Synaptic to check
[12:25] <wrabbit^> mnepton: it's the first time I've used it.  I usually use apt-get
[12:25] <whyso_> hello
[12:25] <mnepton> and for the love of pete, never ever use automatix or easyubuntu or anything else ever again? :)
[12:26] <grubenpony> morphix: http://chris.silmor.de/config-2.6.17.1
[12:26] <wrabbit^> can't check synaptic atm.  Using apt to upgrade to engy
[12:26] <wrabbit^> edgy
[12:27] <wrabbit^> isn't there a command line query to check?
[12:27] <morphix> grubenpony, and i just rename that to .config and place in my /usr/src/linux dir, correct?
[12:27] <mnepton> wrabbit^: apt-cache search installed nvidia
[12:27] <Init5> hey, I've installed fluxbox on my dapper, but I don't see any option on which window menager to run at boot.. how do I start fluxbox then?  :)
[12:28] <wrabbit^> mnepton: gives me nothing
[12:28] <morphix> Init5, you use gdm?
[12:28] <Init5> gnome
[12:28] <whyso_> 'hmmm azreus made a popup box and it wont go away...
[12:28] <morphix> Init5, no, gdm the gnome login? (the default)
[12:28] <Init5> yes
[12:28] <mnepton> whyso_: known bug in the current stable. get the beta.
[12:29] <grubenpony> morphix: 1. cd /usr/src/linux ; make distclean 2. copy the file under the name .config there 3. make menuconfig, change nothing, just exit with save, then make, make modules_install ...
[12:29] <morphix> it will have "session" on the screen
[12:29] <whyso_> k thanx
[12:29] <morphix> click that then choose fluxbox
[12:29] <whyso_> mnepton: how do i make it so a file type is always (withotu right clicking and choosing) opened by a desired application?
[12:29] <Init5> morphix: but I can't even start fluxbox, I don't know how while running gnome
[12:29] <variant> dhq: wget -m will mirror a site
[12:30] <variant> dhq: it wont download scripts that are server side though, only the resulting output from those scripts
[12:30] <morphix> Init5, log out.. then on the login screen go to "session" then choose "fluxbox" then login
[12:30] <dhq> variant: -m means all the files with directories etc rite
[12:30] <morphix> grubenpony, ok thanks
[12:30] <dhq> variant: but i need thee scripts also
[12:30] <Init5> morphix: ok thanks a lot  :))
[12:30] <variant> dhq: it means mirror image, every file needed to display the site.. you might want to add recursion and spidering but be carefull
[12:31] <variant> dhq: then you need local access to the server
[12:31] <variant> dhq: thats the point with server side scripts..
[12:31] <dhq> variant: oh ok
[12:31] <variant> dhq: it's impossible to get those without "cracking" the site or being an admin/having ssh access
[12:32] <dhq> variant: k
[12:32] <dhq> variant: even java scripts
[12:33] <Snake[Sleep] > Will edgy's grub be able to detect vista on another partition?
[12:33] <dhq> why do people use windows when linux is so gr8 lolz
[12:34] <HumanPrototype> Snake[Sleep] : If vista uses the same boot process and gubbins as win xp then yes
[12:34] <Snake[Sleep] > dhq, because its part of my job ;-)
[12:34] <HumanPrototype> dhq: because i can earn money by making access databases :D
[12:34] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, alright
[12:34] <dhq> but most linux users and my self hate windows :(
[12:35] <dhq> but if its your buisness i wont say anything :(
[12:35] <Snake[Sleep] > Then I think when edgy is released im going to wipe dapper and do a fresh install, and get vista then too
[12:35] <Snake[Sleep] > Great plan snake
[12:35] <Snake[Sleep] > :-)
[12:35] <HumanPrototype> dhq: thats why i dont use it unless i have to
[12:35] <whyso> come on someone help :(
[12:35] <pckim93> How do you add boot parameters?
[12:35] <omnius> alls good
[12:35] <dhq> HumanPrototype: good for you :)
[12:35] <HumanPrototype> Snake[Sleep] : try with a beta? i think rc1 is online
[12:35] <dhq> hey i am using edgy
[12:36] <Snake[Sleep] > dhq, Games, DJing, and Troubleshooting is all I need it for. All else, linux can handle, and look good while doing it with beryl/compiz
[12:36] <pckim93> how do you add boot parameters while booting the desktop CD?
[12:36] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, na ill just wait till the 24th
[12:36] <Snake[Sleep] > That is the release right?
[12:36] <HumanPrototype> Snake[Sleep] : of vista?
[12:37] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, edgy
[12:37] <e0500751> hi @ all ;)
[12:37] <Snake[Sleep] > HumanPrototype, I have the RC2 of vista ;-)
[12:37] <TLE> isn't it the 26th
[12:37] <TLE> ?
[12:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Snake[Sleep] , its crap aint it
[12:37] <pckim93> How do you add boot parameters during startup???
[12:38] <whyso> whats this mean when trying to update? W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[12:38] <Snake[Sleep] > Paddy_EIRE, havn't installed it yet on a full system, just under vmware with beta1, at the time it just seemed like a resource hogging xp
[12:38] <HumanPrototype> Paddy_EIRE: language...
[12:38] <HumanPrototype> whyso: you need the gpg key for that repo - i think thats the plf repo so check their website
[12:38] <morphix> pckim93, in grub you can select the kernel you want to boot then hit e, then in kernel line press e then append your parameters to the end
[12:39] <e0500751> are there any BTTV - experts in this channel ?
[12:39] <pckim93> I can't get to grub.  I have NO O/S installed.
[12:39] <AJ1> hello all, im 90% through getting m wireless to work
[12:39] <whyso> k thanx
[12:39] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: then you need to install one and it will set up the boot stuff itself
[12:40] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: what are you trying to do?
[12:40] <AJ1> need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz?
[12:40] <pckim93> Hmmm... Installation is the main problem I'm having actually.
[12:40] <L3TUC3> how do I switch my cursor from a windowed game to my desktop?
[12:40] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: have you tried the alternate install cd
[12:40] <wrabbit^> Anybody know if there's a command line query to see which drivers you've recently installed?
[12:40] <pckim93> I have ASUS P5B-VM motherboard (G965 chipset)
[12:40] <pckim93> I'm in the process of downloading it.
[12:40] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: a linux game or a cedega game?
[12:40] <L3TUC3> linux
[12:40] <pckim93> Should I get the Intel version or the AMD64 version for Core 2 Duo?
[12:41] <morphix> pckim93, ugh.. there is known problem with your board.. i have a similar board (uses 975 chipset) and i have problems.
[12:41] <Wanderer> Anyone know how to get ssh in ubuntu to use ipv6 by default?
[12:41] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: depends if you want the 64bit support - anybody else have a core 2 duo here?
[12:41] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i do
[12:41] <whyso> how do i change what program oppens an application by default?
[12:41] <L3TUC3> HumanPrototype: linx
[12:41] <HumanPrototype> morphix: and you are having to recompile your kernel atm arent you?
[12:41] <L3TUC3> *linux
[12:41] <AJ1> need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz?
[12:42] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: hmm, is it bound to the window? try Alt+tab
[12:42] <pckim93> morphix, have you been able to install it eventually?
[12:42] <morphix> HumanPrototype, i am having to compile it because of the jmicron issue yes
[12:42] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: will you be using ide drives?
[12:42] <HumanPrototype> morphix: is that just ide drives?
[12:42] <morphix> pckim93, i can install it... as the 975 chipset uses intel ide for main ide
[12:42] <L3TUC3> HumanPrototype: tried it, but it doesnt seem to work
[12:42] <morphix> HumanPrototype, yeh need support for the ide drives
[12:42] <whyso>  how do i change what program oppens an application by default?
[12:43] <pckim93> HumanPrototype, I have a SATA hard drive and an IDE CD/DVD-ROM drive
[12:43] <mnepton> whyso: i answered that 20 minutes ago
[12:43] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: maybe the game had blocked alt tab
[12:43] <HumanPrototype> morphix: so is it ok with ide optical drives?
[12:43] <morphix> pckim93, there is a work around to getting the cdrom to work with it.. just a sec and i'll get it
[12:43] <L3TUC3> HumanPrototype: ut2k4?
[12:43] <pckim93> morphix, thanks.
[12:43] <AJ1> need some help with wireless, can anyone help plz??
[12:43] <HumanPrototype> pckim93: morphix has the same mobo and cpu so ill leave you with him if thats ok
[12:43] <totall_6_7> whyso: what type of file are you trying to get to open with what program
[12:44] <morphix> HumanPrototype, its ok with on my intel ide.. but not jmicron ide
[12:44] <whyso> mp3
[12:44] <morphix> i have similar mobo.
[12:44] <morphix> not the same chipset
[12:44] <morphix> similar issues tho
[12:44] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: sorry - im not that familiar with native games as I dont play much and I use cedega
[12:44] <whyso> i hit right click and open with, but next time just reverts back to other program
[12:44] <mnepton> whyso_: right-click -> properties -> open with
[12:44] <pckim93> HumanPrototype, thanks.
[12:44] <mnepton> (x2)
[12:44] <whyso> k ty
[12:44] <pckim93> morphix, yes, it's not quite the same... is there any BIOS settings I need to change?
[12:44] <mnepton> whyso: and that's the second time you have thanked me for the exact same information
[12:45] <HumanPrototype> whyso: select which you want with the radio buttons and it will use that by defauly
[12:45] <HumanPrototype> s/dfauly/default
[12:45] <L3TUC3> ok, what is the minimize command then?
[12:45] <whyso> yeah, i know i did wrong thing first time
[12:45] <morphix> pckim93, not that i am aware of.. trying to find the guide of getting dvd/cd rom drives work on your chipset mobo, is your mobo the gigabyte one?
[12:45] <pckim93> No, it's ASUS.
[12:46] <HumanPrototype> L3TUC3: maybe alt f11 i think but im not sure
[12:46] <morphix> the p5b
[12:46] <pckim93> Yes, it's P5B-VM
[12:46] <AJ1> guys really need help can anyone offer some plz
[12:46] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: tell us the prob and i will help if i can
[12:46] <totall_6_7> !question
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : thanks man
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <morphix> pckim93, mines the p5w dh.. anyway.. look at this for your problems. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : ok i have got my wireless 90% setup and if i type iwcofig, i get all my device stuff up
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : but it says "Acess Point Not Associated"
[12:47] <pckim93> This is my exact box (except with 2GB of RAM instead of one):
[12:47] <pckim93> http://www.a-power.com/product.php?productid=2600&cat=459&page=1&ssid=577c9b5fb5c5f74cb8111e955bad374e&store_language=US
[12:47] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : i need to know how i set this up in ubuntu
[12:47] <cpk2> AJ1: you trying to connect with ad-hoc or managed mode?
[12:48] <AJ1> cpk2 : in english plz :)
[12:48] <mnepton> AJ1: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:48] <cpk2> AJ1: you connecting to a router?
[12:48] <morphix> pckim93, so its pretty much using kernel parameter "all-generic-ide irqpoll"
[12:48] <AJ1> mnepton : i dont have wireless working on my ubuntu one yet, im on a laptop running windows to get in here
[12:48] <mnepton> AJ1: WAP or WEP?
[12:49] <AJ1> PSK
[12:49] <mnepton> AJ1: that's WPA.
[12:49] <AJ1> mnepton : is that good or bad
[12:49] <AJ1> mnepton : or should i choose another method?
[12:49] <pckim93> I don't know how to pass that parameter...
[12:49] <mnepton> AJ1: set your WAP to use WEP, use the stabdard GNOME network config to connect, install network-manager-gnome, then revert to WPA-PSK
[12:50] <mnepton> *standard
[12:50] <AJ1> mnepton : how do i install that, is it in by default?
[12:50] <mnepton> AJ1: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:50] <cpk2> mnepton: how is he to apt-get if he cant use the internet?
[12:50] <AJ1> mnepton: i dont have internet access on my ubuntu machine, will it still install?
[12:51] <mnepton> i just told you how to get internet access
[12:51] <AJ1> ive used ndisgtk and ndiswrapper to get this far if that means anything
[12:51] <mnepton> AJ1: set your WAP to use WEP, use the stabdard GNOME network config to connect, install network-manager-gnome, then revert to WPA-PSK
[12:51] <AJ1> mnepton : ok how do i set it to use wep
[12:51] <AJ1> mnepton : is that in the router?
[12:51] <mnepton> i don't know. it's *your* router. ;)
[12:52] <AJ1> mnepton: lol
[12:52] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: open a terminal and enter iwlist scan
[12:52] <AJ1> HumanPrototype: ok
[12:52] <GhostFreeman> How would I uninstall Xubuntu and all of its included applications?
[12:52] <AJ1> HumanPrototype: ok it says loads of text
[12:52] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: it should tell you about your ap
[12:52] <AJ1> HumanPrototype: cell 01 mode managed
[12:52] <morphix> pckim93, download the edgy beta alternate cd.. and when the initial "boot or install ubuntu" screen press F6, it should show a box in the bottom right hand corner.. enter what i said there
[12:53] <AJ1> ok HumanPrototype and mnepton im goin to change this router setting, ill get discon but be right back ...
[12:54] <pckim93> Thanks, morphix.  I'll try that.
[12:54] <morphix> pckim93, hope yours work.. as mine isnt :(
[12:54] <morphix> brb
[12:54] <HumanPrototype> AJ1: then use sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (your essid) mode managed channel (channel) enc (encryption key in hex)
[12:54] <pckim93> morphix, so dapper alternate won't work?
[12:54] <morphix> pckim93, apparently not.
[12:54] <morphix> brb.. gotta try something
[12:55] <pckim93> morphix, thanks.
[12:55] <mnepton> HumanPrototype: iirc, that will not work with WPA-PSK as it does not correctly invoke wpa-supplicant
[12:55] <Tjoels> yo
[12:58] <Tjoels> is it absolutely neccessary to use the nv driver instead of the nvidia one?
[12:58] <cpk2> Tjoels: no
[12:58] <mnepton> Tjoels: only if you care about your machine not being compromised
[12:58] <Tjoels> hehe
[12:58] <Tjoels> well, how big are the chances?
[12:59] <mnepton> bigger every day
[12:59] <Tjoels> :P
[12:59] <GhostFreeman> How would I uninstall/remove Xubuntu from my system?
[12:59] <mnepton> all it takes is rendering a font. from a web page, a document, a terminal window .... anything
[12:59] <byteshack> has someone installed nx successfully?
[12:59] <Normal> Is there a program that I can get that'll look at my system and make a kernel that'll run ubuntu with it?
[12:59] <mnepton> GhostFreeman: the entire system or just XFCE?
[12:59] <morphix> hmm
[01:00] <GhostFreeman> just Xfce
[01:00] <mnepton> GhostFreeman: apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> well, be ready for the confusion. Some dip wrote in his blog that 6.10 was available and digg is running it.
[01:00] <wdamn> what live version of ubuntu should I run on an intel macbook?
[01:00] <variant> dhq: javascript is part of the html page normally, or in a seperate file. you should be able to get that
[01:01] <cpk2> LeeJunFan: lol
[01:01] <GhostFreeman> thanks mnepton
[01:01] <variant> wdamn: i guess the x86 one but im not certain
[01:01] <mnepton> wdamn: i386
[01:02] <byteshack> nxclient deb package requires libstdc++2.10, and that is not on the repo, what can I do?
[01:02] <wdamn> variant, mnepton : I know, I meant: do I need an updated version of 6.06?
[01:02] <variant> wdamn: nam
[01:02] <variant> wdamn: nah
[01:03] <Normal> I need to make my on kernel, as any 2.6.15+ refuse to boot , and I can't install a graphics driver on 2.6.12-9
[01:03] <Tjoels> When i update my repositories list, i get this error about a key: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27195/
[01:04] <wrabbit^> Anybody know how to find out which graphics drivers you have installed via the command line?
[01:05] <L3TUC3> how would I figure out what type of pc cards my card bus can handle?
[01:05] <Tjoels> look in xorg.conf
[01:05] <Normal> Is there anyone with kernel advice? Is it possible to make a kernel for Ubuntu? Or use one from another distro?
[01:05] <wrabbit^> Tjoels: good idea, thanks
[01:06] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[01:06] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:06] <Tjoels> wrabbit^: u welcome :P
[01:06] <fida> hi
[01:07] <mnepton> Normal: why would you want to do that?
[01:07] <byteshack> Normal: as far as I know, sure, you can make a Kernel for Ubuntu
[01:07] <sami> Tjoels, write this to commandline: gpg --recv "KEY"; gpg --export --armor "KEY" | sudo apt-key add -          ...without quotes
[01:08] <byteshack> and most probably you can use another distro's kernel
[01:08] <wabbit> Hi all. I am using dapper ubuntu and have just compiled and installed the latest alsa 1.0.1.13 driver lib and utils packages following instructions from http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel but when I cat /pro/asound/version it displays 1.0.10rc3. Am I missing something?
[01:08] <wrabbit^> hmmm.... should I be worried? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27197/
[01:08] <Tjoels> all in one command?
[01:08] <byteshack> the only tricky thing might be installing the thrid party kernel on your ubuntu system appropiately
[01:08] <Tjoels> sami: all in one command?
[01:08] <byteshack> ie. might need some grub tinkering
[01:08] <sami> yes
[01:09] <Tjoels> sami: should the "KEY" be the name of the key i want to add?
[01:09] <mnepton> wrabbit^: yes. you are using the vulnerable driver.
[01:09] <Tjoels> sami: or just KEY
[01:09] <wrabbit^> mnepton: is there a way to uninstall it?
[01:09] <mnepton> wrabbit^: just chnage "nvidia" to "nv" on that line and reboot
[01:09] <sami> gpg --recv F120156012B83718; gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key add -
[01:10] <Tjoels> wrabit^ or just ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:10] <sami> that should work
[01:10] <wrabbit^> mnepton: it's as simple as that?  but wouldn't that just be changing the name and not the actual installed drivers?
[01:10] <mnepton> wrabbit^: the vulnerability exists in running the driver. not having it installed.
[01:10] <Tjoels> sami: is that the number that it said from the error output i posted in pastebin?
[01:11] <wrabbit^> ah, ok, I think I get it.  Well that's cool.  So is there a way to pause the dist-upgrade I have running?
[01:11] <sami> yes
[01:12] <cpk2> using propietary nvidia driver is a vulnerbility?
[01:12] <Tjoels> sami: cool, thank you!
[01:12] <bionoid> cpk2: Yes, fixed in latest version I think
[01:12] <sami> is it working now
[01:12] <sami> no problem ;)
[01:13] <cpk2> bionoid: fixed in latest nvidia driver? I dont see how it could have  been a big hole?
[01:13] <Tjoels> sami: yeah, it is. thanks! :P
[01:13] <mnepton> cpk2: it's a very dangerous hole.
[01:14] <mnepton> and there is a fix in the beta, but that driver only works on Edgy, and only for ~10% of people.
[01:14] <mnepton> (it is a beta, after all)
[01:14] <Tjoels> what? is there an update to the nvidia driver that fixes the bug?
[01:14] <wrabbit^> So there's no way to pause an apt download?
[01:14] <mnepton> Tjoels: nothing you want to use.
[01:14] <Tjoels> oh
[01:14] <Tjoels> i see..
[01:14] <boink> !tell boink about easysource
[01:15] <boink> !tell boink about easysource
[01:15] <Tjoels> sami: how did you put together those commands, alle from your hear or a guide or something? ;P
[01:15] <Tjoels> all*
[01:15] <Tjoels> head*
[01:15] <Zer0Ry0k0> I have spent the last 5 hours trying to get FreeCiv to run, the current problem I'm stuck at is
[01:15] <Zer0Ry0k0> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.2.1... no
[01:15] <Tjoels> argh, i hate typos
[01:16] <wrabbit^> ok, how about this.  Will restarting during a dist-upgrade screw up the install if I start it up again after a reboot?
[01:16] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: did you instal via apt-get/Synaptic?
[01:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> and then it checks for all older versions and says I don't have GTK+ installed correctly
[01:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> synaptic mainly...
[01:16] <SeanTater> boink: ubotu just left
[01:16] <mnepton> wrabbit^: interrupting an update is a very dicey proposition
[01:16] <Zer0Ry0k0> I don't know if I succufully installed anything with apt-get
[01:16] <wrabbit^> mnepton: then I'm screwed until it's done
[01:17] <mnepton> wrabbit^: close your eyes and think of england
[01:17] <wrabbit^> mnepton: rainy weather and gloomy days?
[01:17] <mnepton> wrabbit^: women with thick ankles and pies made of roadkill
[01:17] <Zer0Ry0k0> I would copy the whole error message, but it's nearly 10 lines
[01:18] <wrabbit^> mnepton: sounds like heaven.
[01:18] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: sudo apt-get install freeciv
[01:18] <mnepton> done.
 use pastebin
[01:18] <wrabbit^> seriously though, there's only 3 hours of the upgrade to go
[01:18] <wrabbit^> should beo k
[01:18] <Tjoels> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:19] <Tjoels> when is edgy released?
[01:19] <SeanTater> !schedule > Tjoels
[01:19] <SeanTater> Tjoels: just a few days
[01:19] <Tjoels> cool
[01:19] <bimberi> Tjoels: Oct 26 is the target
[01:19] <Tjoels> ubotu is not here.
[01:19] <Tjoels> lol
[01:19] <bimberi> ubotu is down atm
[01:19] <Tjoels> ok, cool :)
[01:19] <SeanTater> Tjoels: so I;m noticing
[01:20] <Zer0Ry0k0> Tjoles, now click download as text?
 what?
[01:20] <Zer0Ry0k0> the pastebin
[01:20] <byteshack> is there a way to see which packages I installed  manually and which packages got installed as a result of a dependency?
[01:20] <gunfus> what is the latest kernerl for ubuntus?
[01:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> I pasted it, pressed okay and it'st ill a block of text
 yea? welll just give the link to the pasted stuff in this channel together with ur question
[01:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> ohh
[01:21] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay
[01:21] <Tjoels> :)
[01:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> How do I get FreeCiv to run? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27201/
[01:22] <Zer0Ry0k0> I've been dealing with this for too long, I should be in bed 3 hours ago
[01:23] <Matii> Is there a way to convert .png files to .xpm files?
[01:23] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: sudo apt-get install freeciv
[01:23] <eyedol_> gunfus, 2.6.17-10-386
[01:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> yeah, I tried that and it says...
[01:23] <Zer0Ry0k0> couldn't find package
[01:23] <Tjoels> update ur repositories
[01:23] <gunfus> eyedol, how can I pick up that kernel because my update hasn't found it yet
[01:23] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: enable Universe and Multiverse
[01:23] <eyedol_> Madeye, yes
[01:24] <Madeye> eyedol, sorry ?
[01:24] <Zer0Ry0k0> with the Update Manager?
[01:24] <eyedol_> Matii, yes
[01:24] <Madeye> ah :-)
[01:24] <Matii> eyedol_: What is the program to do that called?
[01:24] <eyedol_> gunfus, is in edgy
[01:24] <eyedol_> Matii, gimp can do that
[01:24] <Zer0Ry0k0> I probably should go to bed, I can barely think
[01:25] <Matii> eyedol_: thanks
[01:25] <eyedol_> Matii, no problem
[01:25] <Zer0Ry0k0> if this isn't going to be easy... I'll get to it tomorow
[01:25] <Matii> Zer0Ry0k0: it is easy
[01:25] <Zer0Ry0k0> k, thanks
[01:25] <gunfus> eyedol, so just go find it using synaptic, but is weird how my autoupdate hasn't pickuped  the new kernel.. is it supposed to?
[01:25] <eyedol_> gunfus, are you on dapper?
[01:26] <gunfus> yes
[01:26] <jch> "Assume an element of a group, x, has order rs. Find the order of x^r." Advice?
[01:26] <nahoj> here is something I can't understand: When connected to the network in my school running Ubuntu I never get speeds over 80kb/s. But when I tried to connect via VMWare - server running WinXP the speed easily went over 400 kb/s. The connection to internet is DMZ.
[01:26] <Nothing_About> hey i need some help
[01:26] <eyedol_> gunfus, that is why, the new kernel is in edgy
[01:26] <eyedol_> gunfus, I'm on edgy
[01:26] <Nothing_About> how do i put or add files to my usr folders as an admin
[01:26] <gunfus> ohh
[01:26] <Zer0Ry0k0> yeah, I tried that and it says: E: Couldn't find package freeciv
[01:26] <webben> would it be possible to run two sessions of gnome, logged in as a different user in each, switching between them with ctrl + alt + fX ?
[01:27] <gunfus> eyedol, hmm okay.. so I guess I got to go read to see how I upgrade
[01:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> Tjoles
[01:27] <Nothing_About> Whenever i try and copy paste a file within my usr share folder it asks for admin privilages
[01:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> err..... I meant to type the name before that line....
[01:27] <eyedol_> gunfus, shouldn't be that difficult
[01:27] <Nothing_About> how do i get my admin rights working so i can put stuff in folders
[01:27] <gunfus> eyedol_: yeah..
[01:27] <eyedol_> gunfus,  edit your source.list file and change all dapper to edgy
[01:27] <mnepton> Zer0Ry0k0: go do a google serach for "add repository ubuntu"
[01:27] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay, thanks
[01:27] <screechingcat> i want to know how to brun multisession discs in gnomebaker
[01:28] <gunfus> ubotu tell gunfus about source.list
[01:28] <louis_> gunfus sudo update-manager -c -d
[01:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> is it a bad thing to install things you don't need
[01:31] <Zer0Ry0k0> ?
[01:31] <sami> Tjoels, i did have that problem too a few weeks ago and i found some guide from internet..
[01:32] <Tjoels> sami: okey. but thanks ;)
[01:32] <eyedol__> Zer0Ry0k0, why install something you don't need, isn't that was of disk space
[01:32] <sami> Tjoels, no prob!!
[01:32] <eyedol__> Zer0Ry0k0, why install something you don't need, isn't that waste of disk space
[01:32] <Zer0Ry0k0> well, not that I'm going to install everything there is, but I installed things with the same name just to makre sure I wasn't missing some files in there which were needed (and that was the case a couple times tonight)
[01:33] <Tjoels> sami; :P
[01:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> so yeah, now the apt-get install freeciv works
[01:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> omfg..
[01:33] <Zer0Ry0k0> there went 5 hours of nothing basically.
[01:33] <AJ1> HumanPrototype : hey man you there
[01:34] <AJ1> HumanPrototype & mnepton : i rebooted ubuntu now my wireless adapter wont start when i do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:35] <Zer0Ry0k0> wow, just wow.    Thanks for telling me to enable the world of repositories
[01:36] <AJ1> anyone know why after rebooting ubuntu my wifi usb wont fire up when i do modprobe ndiswrapper?
[01:36] <gunfus> eyedol_: anything that I had to do after that?
[01:38] <AJ1> anyone? help plz
[01:38] <AJ1> :S
[01:38] <wrabbit^> hey guys... cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver also works. :)
[01:38] <martin> Hi, how do I get openoffice to print to the kde printer?
[01:38] <hmrocha> hello
[01:38] <acuster> anyone know how to make an eacute in ubuntu?
[01:38] <acuster> on a us keyboard
[01:38] <hmrocha> i'm trying to customize the dapper livecd
[01:39] <hmrocha> how can i change de default keyboard mapping to pt_PT?
[01:39] <webben> acuster: it varies, but you know there's a character map don't you? (Applications -> Accessories)
[01:40] <webben> acuster, also check out Character Palette for the panel
[01:40] <Cholito> I'm trying edgy for a few days and I was wondering how to downgrade firefox to 1.X so I can install some extensions, any ideas?
[01:40] <reon> Is  /etc/rc.d/  something from 2.4 kernel days ???
[01:41] <gunfus> eyedol_: anything that I had to do after that?
[01:41] <AJ1> mnepton: hello
[01:41] <eyedol> gunfus, sudo aptitude update
[01:41] <eyedol> gunfus, then after that sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:42] <sami> anyone upgrade dapper to edgy.. is there any known problems?
[01:43] <gunfus> eyedol, thanks that is working away
[01:43] <Cholito> sami, I'm using it right now and it's working ok
[01:43] <Cholito> sami, I can't install FF extensions thou
[01:43] <sami> any dependency problems?
[01:44] <Cholito> sami, not yet
[01:44] <sami> ok
[01:44] <gunfus> eyedol_: and if later I want to get the source for the kernel..?
[01:44] <gunfus> eyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?
[01:44] <sami> maybe i will wait couple weeks.. ;)
[01:45] <sami> ..for upgrade!
[01:45] <acuster> webben, thanks
[01:45] <acuster> I need to figure this out for good someday
[01:46] <Cholito> so, anyonw knows how to downgrade firefox?
[01:46] <webben> acuster: if you go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout options and fiddle with the settings for Compose key and Third-level key
[01:46] <webben> acuster, you out to be able to get an eacute sequence
[01:46] <webben> (e.g. for me i press right alt + ' then e for e acute
[01:47] <webben> s/you out/you ought/
[01:47] <acuster> yeah
[01:47] <djuuss> What window manager does Xubuntu use? and can i just apt-get it from a normal ubuntu install? (i'm looking for a lightweight window manager to use on my second xserver, just for games)
[01:47] <acuster> I fiddle around once in a while
[01:47] <acuster> and then upgrade and everything breaks ;-)
[01:47] <sami> djuuss, xfce4
[01:47] <djuuss> thx sami
[01:47] <sami> openbox is much lighter
[01:48] <gunfus> eyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?
[01:48] <acuster> webben, when I copy a character from the  Character Map, what encoding is it in?
[01:48] <acuster> the locale's?
[01:48] <webben> acuster: hmm, not sure, i do /everything/ in UTF-8 to avoid that sort of question
[01:49] <tuqann> Hi, how can I change the owner of a folder?????
[01:49] <acuster> webben, HA! got it gedit is being too smart for my own good.
[01:49] <acuster> webben, thanks again
[01:49] <djuuss> i already installed Kubuntu over Ubuntu, but i think both GDM and KDM are running. How can i stop GDM from running at boot?
[01:49] <webben> acuster, no problem
[01:51] <AJR> really need help with wg111t and ubuntu
[01:51] <AJR> anyone?
[01:52] <Axord> Cholito: have you tried the Nightly Tester Tools extension to "upgrade" your extensions instead?
[01:53] <Alscorpion> ##php
[01:53] <gunfus> eyedol_:  or that will also get updated..?
[01:54] <L3TUC3> if I were to get a pcmcia wireless card, what should I keep in mind?
[01:54] <overrider> there are so many network bandwidth analyzers, would you recommend ntop , mrtg, bandwidthd, iptraf or what?
[01:55] <AJR> really need help with wg111t and ubuntu
[01:56] <AJR> HumanPrototype: you around mate
[01:56] <gunfus> eyedol:   or that will also get updated..?
[01:57] <AJR> guys why does unplugging and plugging back in my wifi adapter crash linux?
[01:57] <gunfus> eyedol: sorry.. the message got cut.. I was asking if doing the update, if it will also update my source dir
[01:59] <AJR> someone please help if you cna
[01:59] <AJR> this is irritating
[02:00] <AJR> i had my wg111t working, i rebooted, now sudo modprobe ndiswrapper doesnt work anymore ... any ideas?
[02:01] <tuna> could someone tell how to change the default window manager?
[02:01] <onurx> I installed ubuntu on my laptop(widescreen), now it supports just "1024x768" and "800x600" , I need "1280x800" how can I configure this?
[02:02] <tuna> oops, not window manager but display manager. I think
[02:02] <morphix> onurx, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:03] <gunfus> eyedol: sorry.. the message got cut.. I was asking if doing the update, if it will also update my source dir
[02:03] <morphix> tuna, in gdm (the login screen on a default install) click "session" then choose what display manager you want, then login, it should ask you if you want it to be the default session
[02:03] <rem64> hi all
[02:04] <eyedol> gunfus, no it shouldn't
[02:04] <vanhtu1987> onurx: You want high resolution in console mode or in X ?
[02:05] <gunfus> eyedol: can I get the command to update my source later..?
[02:05] <[GuS] > Hi prople... after upgrade today of proftpd... has problems to start the service
[02:05] <tuna> morphis: the login screen is kdm now, and it doesn't ask if it should be default
[02:05] <[GuS] > i use proftpd-mysql package
[02:05] <eyedol> gunfus, what source are we talking about here?
[02:06] <cef> ever since switching back to the nv driver, my system is quite laggy in video performance.. any suggestions on what to check? also how do I stop the nvidia kernel module loading automatically at boot (without removing restricted modules that is)?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> gunfus: sudo apt-get update   updates the sources.list to look for new updates (it doesnt change the list)
[02:06] <[GuS] > i have this error when i try to start proftpd service:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'server.gdnet.com.ar' error: No address associated with hostname
[02:07] <vanhtu1987> cef: Try uninstalling the nvidia binary blob.
[02:07] <AJR> need some help with ndiswrapper plz anyone help?
[02:07] <cef> vanhtu1987: you mean nvidia-glx? gone already
[02:08] <Cholito> Axord, thanks for the extension, but the problem is with the extension as is not compatible with ff2.0
[02:08] <variant> Cholito: you using edgy?
[02:08] <Cholito> yes
[02:08] <vanhtu1987> cef: You may then remove/rename the kernel module, it doesn't hurt to do it.
[02:08] <variant> Cholito: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <AJR> Would a reboot cause ndiswrapper to lose its config?
[02:09] <cef> vanhtu1987: yeah I guess..
[02:09] <variant> AJR: :)
[02:09] <AJR> variant : lol hey
[02:09] <Axord> Cholito: the version of NTT I'm looking at seems to be good for FF2 to 3
[02:09] <Cholito> variant, thanks
[02:10] <Cholito> Axord, I'm talking about tmp
[02:10] <cef> bbk
[02:10] <byteshack> is there a text mode www browser that supports ssl/tls?
[02:10] <byteshack> so that you can, for instance, login to a gmail account from a putty connection?
[02:10] <Axord> Cholito: The purpose of NTT is to force extensions to be installed on "wrong" FF versions
[02:11] <Axord> Well, one of the purpsoes anyway
[02:11] <grubenpony> byteshack: i think links can to ssl
[02:11] <byteshack> let me check that, links2 couldn't
[02:11] <grubenpony> byteshack: maybe newer w3m can do it too
[02:11] <j2daosh> anyone in here have wine installed?
[02:11] <variant> byteshack: lynx, links, links2
[02:11] <byteshack> grubenpony: I'll try w3m
[02:11] <Cholito> Axord, somehow it breaks ff2
[02:11] <eyedol> j2daosh, yes but I hardly use it though
[02:11] <variant> byteshack:  it can, i use it for gmail all the time
[02:11] <byteshack> variant: they don't seem to do ssl, at least not the binary ones
[02:11] <Axord> Cholito: awww. Ok.
[02:11] <byteshack> variant: which one specifically?
[02:12] <vanhtu1987> byteshack: IMO w3m with tabbed browsing is the best of all.
[02:12] <variant> byteshack: links2
[02:12] <j2daosh> eyedol: i have an application i believe may have a a virus binded to it. i want to open the program using wine
[02:12] <Cholito> I guess I can't just install ff1.5.x
[02:12] <j2daosh> i have installed wine,wine-dev,libwine,libwine-dev... but i cant get it to configure... how do i do that
[02:13] <variant> Cholito: yeah, remove firefox2 and download the firefox 1.5 .deb and use dpkg to isntall it
[02:13] <morphix> j2daosh, winecfg
[02:13] <variant> j2daosh: just run wine
[02:13] <byteshack> variant: and you just use the default compiled version that comes with dapper of links2?
[02:13] <vanhtu1987> variant: The version of links2 in the Ubuntu tree doesn't support TSL by default, AFAIK.
[02:13] <Cholito> variant, gnome depends on ff2.0
[02:13] <variant> byteshack: i use edgy
[02:13] <byteshack> Cholito: nice nick :) You from southeramerica?
[02:13] <j2daosh> ok got it up... lol cant use putty have to be at the desktop for it appartantly :(
[02:13] <byteshack> variant: ah..
[02:13] <eyedol> j2daosh, wine applicationname.exe
[02:13] <Cholito> byteshack, Peru 8)
[02:14] <byteshack> Cholito: cool, where from?
[02:14] <Cholito> Lima ;o)
[02:14] <variant> j2daosh: putty has a linux version, why not just use the terminal though
[02:14] <morphix> ssh ftw
[02:14] <Cholito> variant, that's why I can't just uninstall ff2 and install ff1.5
[02:15] <variant> Cholito: i see, install ff1.5 into a chroot, bit of work but should be fine. will take a bit of time to set up the chroot though
[02:16] <Cholito> i know...
[02:16] <Cholito> thanks =)
[02:16] <byteshack> w3m rocks ;)
[02:16] <AJR> someone here must be able to help with this ndiswrapper problem i have
[02:16] <grubenpony> byteshack: it does :)
[02:16] <AJR> anyone??
[02:16] <cef> ok, removed the nvidia driver from the disk, rebooted just to be sure, and it's still horribly slow. mainly scrolling (eg: up/down in firefox, other apps too).
[02:16] <HumanPrototype> AJR: search the wiki for a guide on ndiswrapper
[02:17] <AJR> HumanPrototype: ive followed the guide thats how i got it working
[02:17] <HumanPrototype> AJR: from memory start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Driver/Wifi
[02:17] <grubenpony> byteshack: already found the settings page with "o"?
[02:17] <AJR> HumanPrototype: its after reboot it doesnt work now?
[02:17] <Cholito> lol
[02:17] <HumanPrototype> AJR: is the module loaded on startup? try ndiswrapper -m when its working
[02:17] <vanhtu1987> cef: The vn driver doesn't support 3D Acceleration.
[02:17] <Cholito> variant, I just downloaded the ff*.tar.gz untar it and execute it and it works
[02:18] <variant> Cholito: gj
[02:18] <cef> vanhtu1987: who's talking about 3d.. this is plain 2d stuff and it's dog-slow
[02:18] <byteshack> grubenpony: just did
[02:18] <AJR> HumanPrototype: i never did the modprobe -m stuff and i rebooted
[02:18] <AJR> HumanPrototype: now when i typed before sudo modprobe ndiswrapper - worked and it flashed - now typing it doesnt do anything
[02:18] <AJR> HumanPrototype: same as now it doesnt list wlan0 like it did before the reboot
[02:19] <HumanPrototype> AJR: you needto make sure the ndiswrapper module is loaded on startup and i think the guide covers that
[02:19] <vanhtu1987> cef: That's pretty much all it can do, from what I perceived.
[02:19] <cef> vanhtu1987: lag of up to 2 seconds after a mouse click on a scroll bar before the screen updates
[02:19] <AJR> HumanPrototype: ok ill go have a look ...
[02:19] <AJR> HumanPrototype: wouldnt sudo modprobe ndiswrapper load it though?
[02:19] <HumanPrototype> AJR: can you ge it working by using sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[02:19] <cef> usually it's about 3/4 of a second, but sometimes it's just ages
[02:19] <AJR> HumanPrototype: it worked before i rebooted eah
[02:19] <HumanPrototype> AJR: that only loads it now - it wont be loaded next boot
[02:19] <AJR> HumanPrototype: after reboot .. that doesnt work
[02:20] <q-tip> So shall I upgrade to 6.10 ?
[02:20] <vanhtu1987> cef: That's much slower than it should be, what web pages were you browsing ?
[02:20] <HumanPrototype> AJR but if you type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" will it work now?
[02:21] <AJR> HumanPrototype: nope
[02:21] <cef> vanhtu1987: pretty much anything.
[02:21] <rambo3> AJR depmod -a && modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:21] <vanhtu1987> cef: The performance would drop drastically if the pages contain Flash or heavy gif/jpeg files.
[02:21] <AJR> rambo3 : you want me to type that in?
[02:21] <rambo3> AJR you need sudo
[02:21] <lexam> I'm going to upgrade to 6.10 but not until the 26th when it comes out with the final release
[02:22] <HumanPrototype> AJR: ok, redo the guide then dont reboot and type in "sudo ndiswrapper -m" to set it to load on startup
[02:22] <cef> vanhtu1987: from theregister to news sites to anything. it's not restricted to web browsing.. affects kmail, evolution, even xchat
[02:22] <davvs> if i have a bunch of files in a folder, how can i see which ones that are unique? that is they're not hard links of each others
[02:22] <AJR> HumanPrototype: ok
[02:22] <AJR> rambo3: i did that and nothings happened
[02:22] <vanhtu1987> cef: Did it work fine when you first install Ubuntu ?
[02:22] <HumanPrototype> AJR: I dont have that much experiance with it - i just tried it a few days back but in the end used edgy which supported the card
[02:22] <AJR> rambo3: it just moved onto the next line of the terminal
[02:22] <AJR> HumanPrototype: ok thanks for your help mate
[02:22] <cef> vanhtu1987: I don't remember.. that was back in the days of Hoary
[02:23] <cef> vanhtu1987: and I seem to remember the first thing I did was install the nvidia binary driver
[02:23] <vanhtu1987> cef: I'm afraid I can not help if it has anything to do with compatibility, if the nvidia 3D driver package (from their site) is not causing you problem (it does to me though - unstable for some people), try using it.
[02:24] <kisyam> /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[02:24] <ReverseBlade> msg nickserv identify car@l!um
[02:24] <ReverseBlade> opps
[02:24] <cef> vanhtu1987: see the topic as to why I uninstalled it.
[02:24] <cef> ReverseBlade: yeah. oops
[02:24] <kisyam> sorry
[02:24] <byteshack> ReverseBlade: auch :)
[02:24] <vanhtu1987> cef: The nv driver should not causing troubles even in 1280x1024x32, as far as I know.
[02:24] <HumanPrototype> ReverseBlade: well we know your password now... quick! try ssh!
[02:25] <ReverseBlade> I was just  bluffing :)
[02:25] <ReverseBlade> that was intentional
[02:25] <ReverseBlade> lol
[02:25] <HumanPrototype> ReverseBlade: at least u have letters, numbers and symbols in there :D
[02:25] <cef> vanhtu1987: 1440x900x32 at the moment, so yeah
[02:25] <{_-IcE-_}> wow cool... 874 users helpin on ubuntu :p
[02:25] <lexam> Yes of course it was heh heh... must kill them all now.
[02:25] <ReverseBlade> lol
[02:25] <morphix> here is just a quick kernel compiling question, currently when i add a custom version name to my kernel in kernel config, when booting, it looks for /lib/modules/2.6.18.1 instead of /lib/modules/2.6.18.1custom ??
[02:25] <kisyam> Hi all, i am new beginner to linux, if i want to update the kernel, are the programs (that i've installed at ubuntu) is broken|
[02:26] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, what? how ?
[02:26] <kisyam> i am using breezy
[02:26] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, ohh, mostly not
[02:26] <kisyam> i want to update to dapper
[02:26] <Rondom> {_-IcE-_}: well, more users that can write something => higher chance that your question won't be read, because it scrolls away so quickly...
[02:26] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, programs who depends on linux-headers will be broken, an example vmware
[02:26] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, mostly you will be safe
[02:27] <vanhtu1987> cef: Sorry for not be able to help you any further. If reducing the resolution/bitrate works, perhaps that's your video adapter could not handle screen resolution that big.
[02:27] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, go for it
[02:27] <{_-IcE-_}> hehe true true... im new to ubuntu... hope i wont be too much hassle
[02:27] <kisyam> yes, thank you
[02:27] <cef> vanhtu1987: well it's the same size as before.. and since it's an LCD, going lower is not an option
[02:27] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, you can always revet back to the old kernel, it appears a  menu option on the grub
[02:27] <Nookie> please need help... i have followed and installed my ati graphic card 1000 times before but now when im trying to install it i get mesa issue all the time... im running now also 2 monitors
[02:27] <{_-IcE-_}> just trying to setup my server... first propblem is proftpd wont accept rootlogin even tho i set RootLogin on in the conf
[02:28] <{_-IcE-_}> is it some prob related to ubuntu?
[02:28] <ReverseBlade> Nookie, your computer's brand and model ?
[02:28] <ReverseBlade> {_-IcE-_}, yes it is
[02:28] <{_-IcE-_}> any way around it pls ReverseBlade ?
[02:28] <dsdg> hi there, very new to ubuntu, checking it out now after doing my first install this morning, was running gentoo but moved over because i hear xgl and ubuntu is easy?
[02:29] <dsdg> damn i kinda miss gentoo, now that is one sweet os!
[02:29] <Nookie> ReverseBlade:   intel 1.4 ghz ,512 MB ram =) Ati radeon 9800
[02:29] <lob22> i just installed 5.10 and when i go to make my wireless card live it does it and then when i go to go on the internet nothin happends
[02:29] <Alakazamz0r> dsdg, Gentoo is overrated.
[02:29] <ReverseBlade> dsdg, easiest for XGL is SUSE
[02:29] <teferra> i wanted to uninstall the laptop supprt from my desktop and every thing uninstalled. No x nothing no nothing. only the balck and white screen clean linux. can i restore my ubuntu with apt-get short of re installing? or is there any other way?
[02:29] <kisyam> ReverseBlade : thanks
[02:29] <ReverseBlade> Nookie, machine's brand name ?
[02:29] <Alakazamz0r> dsdg, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX
[02:29] <dsdg> ReverseBlade: hmm, cool, gonna give ubuntu a try, see how it handles ;)
[02:29] <Nookie> ReverseBlade: i build it my self
[02:30] <dsdg> Alakazamz0r: thanks mate,
[02:30] <vanhtu1987> cef: High resolution for a 3D driver is not an issue (as you said you first installed nvidia-glx back then), but it should'nt be a surprise when using the default nv driver.
[02:30] <ReverseBlade> Nookie, what is your resolution ?
[02:30] <lob22> can someone help me out
[02:30] <Alakazamz0r> no problem dsdg
[02:30] <ReverseBlade> dsdg, it is painful believe me, but go for edgy if you really want
[02:30] <Nookie> 1280x1024.. running now on dual screens...
[02:30] <saif> hello, does any1 here know how to add page numbering in openoffice?
[02:30] <{_-IcE-_}> can any1 tell me if there's any way around logging in to proftpd as root on ubuntu pls :) ?
[02:30] <saif> i can't find the damn thing!
[02:30] <ReverseBlade> lob22, what's wrong
[02:30] <ReverseBlade> !ask > lob22
[02:31] <kisyam> but now, i am still waiting the dapper CD . so right now i am using breezy, i've got a problem in detect my internal winmodem. i have scan my modem (using scan Modem from linmodem.org) but they told me to download the c compiler, where can i find the c compiler ?
[02:31] <variant> {_-IcE-_}: don't run it as root
[02:31] <marcusgrazette> hey i'm having a problem installing WASTE the p2p software. i think i have to type "make waste" but when i do i get an error saying "nothing to be done for 'waste'"
[02:31] <saif> no1? please i really need this i removed windows, and need to print my graduation thesis! :S
[02:31] <lexam> saif i have open office for dummies if you would like I can DCC it for you
[02:31] <kisyam> i have installed the breezy since 2 days ago (so really new :))
[02:31] <variant> marcusgrazette: your compiling the software?
[02:31] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, sudo apt-get build-essentials
[02:32] <lob22> ReverseBlade i just installed 5.10 and when i go to make my wireless card live it does it and then when i go to go on the internet nothin happends
[02:32] <ReverseBlade> lob22, 5.10 ? why ? why not 6.06 ?
[02:32] <morphix> marcusgrazette, after doing ./configure if it completes with no errors do, make, then sudo make install
[02:32] <saif> lexam, no, no need, i just need to know how to do it, quickly!
[02:32] <partha> no cd perhaps
[02:32] <lexam> I'm sorry I don't know how just figured the book would let me see if I can search it.
[02:32] <ReverseBlade> lob22, try to ping your router
[02:32] <marcusgrazette> variant: i'm not sure if i have to, all that was in the zip file i downloaded was a file with the mime type application/x-executable called waste
[02:33] <lexam> It was how to do page numbering right?
[02:33] <variant> saif: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=open+office+page+numbers&btnG=Google+Search
[02:33] <lob22> ReverseBlade thats the free cds i have
[02:33] <marcusgrazette> variant: no extention or any clue as to what i should do to install it
[02:33] <ReverseBlade> lob22, just download the 6.06 from web, don't bother it
[02:33] <ReverseBlade> lob22, 6.10 will be out in 12 days
[02:33] <kisyam> ReverseBlade: just type the "sudo apt-get build-essentials", so i can type the command line of "make" too?
[02:33] <lob22> nice
[02:33] <lexam> Ok Saif found it
[02:34] <Nyto-RJ> im luving 6.06
[02:34] <lob22> if i went to order the new free cds would thay send them to me
[02:34] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, it installs a c  compiler , dunno about your problem but prolly the answer is yes
[02:34] <amitjha> any one help me? too new to UBUNTU
[02:34] <kisyam> ReverseBlade : i am online in cybercafe, so i can practice ur advice directly
[02:34] <Nyto-RJ> installed yesterday
[02:34] <ReverseBlade> lob22, not anymore, why not download ?
[02:34] <kisyam> ReverseBlade : thanks
[02:34] <partha> amitjha, shoot your question
[02:34] <variant> marcusgrazette: type make && sudo make install
[02:34] <saif> lexam i found a lot of stuff about compicated page numbering, but no simple1! how?
[02:34] <partha> and wait for people to answer
[02:34] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, yw
[02:34] <marcusgrazette> morphix: typing ./configure gives "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[02:34] <lob22> ReverseBlade i am goin to download it now
[02:34] <ReverseBlade> lob22, download 6.10
[02:35] <ReverseBlade> lob22, not 6.06
[02:35] <saif> lexam, hehe, i think i found it!
[02:35] <saif> let me check!
[02:35] <variant> saif: we are not paid support staff, stop ordering us around
[02:35] <amitjha> partha: trying to install mail server using postfix but...
[02:35] <lexam> Ok cool
[02:35] <lob22> iight will do
[02:35] <lexam> You have to do it in the header or footer
[02:35] <teferra> i wanted to uninstall the laptop supprt from my desktop and every thing uninstalled. No x, no nothing. only the balck and white screen clean linux. can i restore my ubuntu with apt-get short of reinstalling? is there any other way?
[02:35] <marcusgrazette> variant: that gives "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[02:35] <variant> marcusgrazette: you need to un tar the sorce code you downloaded
[02:36] <variant> marcusgrazette: look, there are a few basic steps to compiling software
[02:36] <HumanPrototype> teferra: so you want it back to normal?
[02:36] <teferra> yes
[02:36] <Nyto-RJ> The Official Ubuntu Book is good for the beginning of learning Ubuntu!!!????
[02:36] <lexam> Saif I figured it out
[02:36] <variant> marcusgrazette: 1, untar the software and "cd" to the untarred directory. 2, run ./configure IN THIS DIRECTORY. 3, type make. 4, type sudo make install
[02:36] <saif> variant, i'm sorry but i didn't feel i was ordering any1 around! it's simply that this page numbering is not working!
[02:36] <lexam> real easy are you still there?
[02:36] <lob22> ReverseBlade Ubuntu aint out yeat
[02:37] <lexam> Ok Saif go to insert header
[02:37] <HumanPrototype> teferra: i think you should be able to use sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base
[02:37] <saif> lexam, ok,
[02:37] <lexam> Then go to insert fields and choose page number
[02:37] <ReverseBlade> teferra, just uninstall gdm, then you can reinstall it when ever you want
[02:37] <lexam> that's it
[02:37] <teferra> gdm is gone
[02:38] <ReverseBlade> lob22, 6.10 isn't out but there's a beta you could download. 12 days left to go, so I suggest to go with 6.10. 6.06 is just fine
[02:38] <ReverseBlade> teferra, then what is the problem ?
[02:38] <davvs> how can i see where(what blocks) a file is on the disk?
[02:38] <HumanPrototype> ReverseBlade: teferra has removed everything so its in a similar state to a server install i think
[02:39] <marcusgrazette> variant: i unziped the file i downloaded, cd to the unzipped dir, then tried running the commands u mentioned and got the error messages i pasted. inside the unzipped dir there were 2 files, licence.txt and waste, if it was tar ed there would be a file ending with .tar or .tgz or somthing like that right?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ReverseBlade: 9 days
[02:39] <lexam> Saif did that work for you?
[02:39] <variant> marcusgrazette: what is the software you are installing?
[02:39] <saif> lexam! ur an angel! thanx a lot! i probably would have figured it out in my normal state, but i have only slept for 9 hours since friday
[02:40] <lexam> I understand anytime :)
[02:40] <Nyto-RJ> Im having problems with mp3 on amaroK, just with it, totem is playing mp3 fine... I read the site, installed some packages, but still doesnt working....
[02:40] <saif> lexam :) yes! i can't believe i wrote a grid computing application, and can't figure out ow to add a page number! :S
[02:40] <marcusgrazette> waste, waste.sourceforge.net
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: did you install libxine-extracodecs
[02:40] <lexam> LOL that's ok I would barely be able to write the "Hello" application in basic.
[02:40] <Nyto-RJ> couldn find it
[02:40] <Nyto-RJ> i tried
[02:41] <teferra> will try installing ubuntu-base
[02:41] <Nyto-RJ> but it says its gone
[02:41] <saif> lexam, thanx again, i'm going to print it! goodluck to me!
[02:41] <cappe> I can't synaptic dc++ cause Penguin Liberation Front is down, what do you suggest me to do??
[02:41] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: its in multiverse with all the other mp3 codecs
[02:41] <boink> cappe: PLF is avaible on other sites
[02:41] <HumanPrototype> cappe: wait
[02:41] <boink> easysource gives the wrong site, idiots
[02:41] <Nyto-RJ> i should change universe to multiverse
[02:41] <Nyto-RJ> is that???
[02:41] <gnomefreak> boink: i was the right site until PLF changed over
[02:41] <boink> easysource spits out rubbish
[02:42] <Nyto-RJ> because i changed to download and install NVU
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: no add multiverse to the end of the lines that end in universe
[02:42] <nrdb> I am trying to install a perl module it is saying it needs 'cups-config' where can I find it?
[02:42] <kisyam> anyone know,where can we identify our toshiba laptop model/type at Ubuntu? i didnt find it in device manager
[02:42] <Nyto-RJ> so will be something like -> universe multiverse
[02:42] <Nyto-RJ> at the ende
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: yes
[02:42] <Nyto-RJ> ok
[02:43] <Nyto-RJ> will try
[02:44] <cappe> HumanPrototype: I am able to connect to the server now but it "cannot find the file requested"..
[02:44] <HumanPrototype> cappe: have you sudo aptitude updated/
[02:45] <kisyam> ReverseBlade:sorry,asking again, i found this message "The kernel was compiled with gcc version 3.4.5 and a compiler is not installed", when detect my winmodem. where can i find the gcc compiler?
[02:46] <variant> kisyam: apt-get install build-essential
[02:46] <cappe> HumanPrototype: yes.. ftp.free.fr dappar/non-free server responded: Failed to open file."
[02:46] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, type gcc -v
[02:47] <kryptoz> Hi all
[02:47] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, at below there should be gcc version
[02:47] <ReverseBlade> I can't believe how many noobs migrated to Ubuntu from windows. That's excellent
[02:47] <Nyto-RJ> still returning this message:
[02:47] <cef> ok trying to remove the nvidia kernel module on this system is being a pain. I've deleted the module, but after a reboot the module is resident and loaded. only thing I can guess is that it's in the initrd
[02:47] <Nyto-RJ> Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[02:47] <kryptoz> i have a terminal problem. When i login to my netscreen firewall, i am not able to use the backspace to delete.
[02:48] <kryptoz> anyone knows a solution
[02:48] <kisyam> ^^'
[02:48] <lexam> ReverseBlade I'm one of those Noobs
[02:48] <ReverseBlade> kryptoz, this is not a ubuntu problem
[02:48] <cappe> kryptoz: try ^D to Delete a character
[02:48] <kisyam> me too
[02:48] <lexam> I've tried installing Linux before Redhat, Suse, etc and it was complicated till I found Ubuntu
[02:48] <ReverseBlade> lexam, I am also a noob. But I started feel knowledgeable because there are noober people here :)
[02:48] <{_-IcE-_}> can some1 suggest a good but easy to setup mail server pls? (imp to have also webmail support)
[02:49] <variant> kisyam: try using a different terminal
[02:49] <Nyto-RJ> gnomefreak:
[02:49] <gnomefreak> yes?
[02:49] <lexam> lol true
[02:49] <Nyto-RJ> still not working
[02:49] <variant> kisyam: netscreen junos sucks balls
[02:49] <M_A_K> What is the simplest way to make a backup of my home dir (preserving everything links, perms etc) onto an external drive.  I do not need compression, have tons of space.
[02:49] <lob22> ReverseBlade lol
[02:49] <lexam> I found Ubuntu by sheer luck on Cnet it had a tutorial on how to install it.
[02:49] <gnomefreak> did you run sudo apt-get update?
[02:49] <Nyto-RJ> forgot
[02:49] <Nyto-RJ> sorry
[02:49] <variant> M_A_K: cp -r -P
[02:49] <cappe> does anyone know an alternative adress to the PLF-server?
[02:50] <M_A_K> variant : thanks.
[02:50] <Nyto-RJ> now its downloading
[02:50] <Nyto-RJ> thx
[02:50] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:50] <ReverseBlade> {_-IcE-_}, try wiki first  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[02:50] <tuna> Could someone tell me how to change the default display manager? I tried changing /etc/X11/default-display-manager but the it didn't boot a display manager at all
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: you might want to get the rest of the codecs from the !mp3 link
[02:51] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[02:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:51] <variant> M_A_K: cp -a even
[02:51] <kisyam> ReverseBlade : they said : if compiling is necessary packages must be installed : gcc-3.4, make , linux-headers2.6.12.9.386, how did i know that this package is installed in my ubuntu?
[02:51] <ReverseBlade> lexam, ubuntu is not the most user friendly, but noob friendly if you don't give up:)
[02:51] <M_A_K> variant : what does it mean by archive?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> kisyam: install build-essential and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[02:52] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, open synaptic and search for them, you will see the status
[02:52] <Nyto-RJ> where
[02:52] <variant> kisyam: i allready told you to apt-get install build-essential
[02:52] <Nyto-RJ> sory
[02:52] <Nyto-RJ> was checkin amaroK
[02:52] <lexam> Very noob friendly with the exception of trying to tweak it which most everyday users wouldn't do I have not had any real problems with it.
[02:52] <matti> :)
[02:52] <ReverseBlade> kisyam, there  is no package for gcc, i think, they are bundled in build-essential
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:52] <variant> M_A_K: the same as if you use -p (preserve) -r (recurse) -d (dereference)
[02:52] <variant> ReverseBlade: there is a gcc package
[02:52] <Nyto-RJ> ok
[02:53] <ReverseBlade> variant, right
[02:53] <Nyto-RJ> i read it before
[02:53] <Nyto-RJ> but was with the multiverse problem
[02:53] <Nyto-RJ> so
[02:53] <lexam> Once 6.10 comes out I'm thinking about doing a grass roots sit down at the coffee shop and attack anyone with a laptop with a free cd
[02:53] <Nyto-RJ> will download everything now
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Nyto-RJ: most of the codecs are in multiverse so go over them again just incase
[02:53] <Nyto-RJ> thx
[02:53] <kisyam> ReverseBlade. variant, gnomefreak : thanks
[02:53] <gnomefreak> kisyam: yw
[02:54] <M_A_K> variant : what if there may be files that are owned by root or something like that? will the copy still work if I execute it as myself rather than sudo it?
[02:54] <AJR> ok ive read every wiki, every thread im completely stuck as to why it worked before i rebooted, and now it doesnt
[02:54] <AJR> so god damn frustrating
[02:54] <variant> M_A_K: providing you have read permission on those files
[02:54] <sparkleytone> whats wrong ajr?
[02:54] <variant> M_A_K: if you dont want them to be owned by root you can change that
[02:54] <AJR> my wg111t worked before i rebooted and since then it hasnt sparkleytone
[02:55] <sparkleytone> is that a wifi card?
[02:55] <AJR> sparkleytone : its a usb
[02:55] <variant> sparkleytone: yes, and he is using ndiswrapper
[02:55] <sparkleytone> AJR: what does dmesg say?
[02:55] <M_A_K> variant : what is the command to chown recursively to me?
[02:55] <AJR> sparkleytone: two secs ...
[02:55] <variant> M_A_K: chown -R user /dir/
[02:56] <cef> anyone know how I can regenerate the initrd?
[02:56] <AJR> sparkleytone: that turns out a load of crap, which parts do you want?
[02:56] <M_A_K> variant : so chown -R knichel /home/knichel/
[02:56] <sparkleytone> AJR: are you familiar with initiating ndiswrapper from the command line?
[02:56] <AJR> sparkleytone
[02:56] <sparkleytone> AJR: if so...do that and then dmesg | tail -n 20
[02:56] <sparkleytone> or so
[02:56] <AJR> sparkleytone: if you mean sudo modproe ndiswrapper ... yeah
[02:57] <sparkleytone> afaik ndiswrapper is not a kernel module
[02:57] <sparkleytone> unless things have changed since i used it
[02:57] <variant> M_A_K: yes
[02:57] <M_A_K> variant : thanks
[02:57] <HumanPrototype> anybody know if the limewire client on windows has spyware bundled?
[02:57] <variant> M_A_K: use chgrp as well, otherwise some of the files will be in root's group
[02:57] <AJR> sparkleytone: ok i typed "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper dmesg  | tail -n 20"
[02:57] <AJR> sparkleytone : and nothing happened?
[02:58] <variant> M_A_K: same command but chgrp instead of chown
[02:58] <mnepton> HumanPrototype: use Frostwire
[02:58] <M_A_K> K
[02:58] <HumanPrototype> mnepton: its not my pc otherwise I would just be using shareaza
[02:58] <sparkleytone> !ndiswrapper
[02:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <_ian_> hi i need help im trying to use apt-get update so tht i could do i upgrade yet i always get an error on cpp that it is held back....what should i do with this
[02:58] <sparkleytone> AJR: you need to "man ndiswrapper"
[02:58] <sparkleytone> and read up on it
[02:58] <_ian_> hi i need help im trying to use apt-get update so tht i could do i upgrade yet i always get an error on cpp that it is held back....what should i do with this
[02:58] <mnepton> HumanPrototype: doesn't matter, use Frostwire ;)
[02:59] <AJR> sparkleytone: oh ok something happened
[02:59] <sparkleytone> unless things have changed dramatically since breezy...ndiswrapper is not a kernel module, it is a program
[02:59] <AJR> sparkleytone: do you have msn
[02:59] <sparkleytone> AJR: no, i have Jabber and AIM
[02:59] <AJR> sparkleytone: ah ok .. erm so this is a manual?
[02:59] <variant> sparkleytone: it has a kernel module as part of its program
[02:59] <LabThug> I'm trying to use http_redirect on a Dapper box. Which module do I need to install to get this function? Right now, I'm told that it's undefined.
[03:00] <mnepton> sparkleytone: ndiswrapper uses a kernel module
[03:00] <M_A_K> variant : should I run those commands a sudo ?
[03:00] <Nyto-RJ> why sometimes i got this message:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:00] <Nyto-RJ> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:00] <sparkleytone> ok thanks
[03:00] <variant> M_A_K: yes, if your changing permissions of a root owned file (which is what you said you were doing)
[03:00] <AJR> sparkleytone , mnepton , variant - do you wanna wanna jump into a chan see if we can work this out
[03:00] <sparkleytone> AJR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG511andNdiswrapper
[03:01] <variant> Nyto-RJ: that means you have synaptic or somthing open
[03:01] <Nyto-RJ> ok
[03:01] <sparkleytone> AJR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[03:01] <variant> AJR: sorry, i know not enougha bout ndiswrapper to offer much help
[03:01] <Nyto-RJ> just synaptic
[03:01] <sparkleytone> you need to read the first doc to make sure you have what you ened.
[03:01] <_ian_> anyone here who could help i really am inexperienced....and is desperate to know how to solve this prob lem so i could finlly upgrad to 6.06
[03:01] <sparkleytone> need*
[03:01] <Nyto-RJ> its closed
[03:01] <sparkleytone> AJR: and then you need to read that second doc to learn how to use ndiswrapper
[03:01] <Nyto-RJ> open just gaim and amaroK
[03:01] <sparkleytone> _ian_: what problem?
[03:02] <variant> Nyto-RJ: you cant run apt-get if you have annother apt process running (synaptic)
[03:02] <Nyto-RJ> sorry
[03:02] <Nyto-RJ> was open
[03:02] <variant> Nyto-RJ: np :)
[03:02] <Nyto-RJ> thx
[03:02] <pty> is sun-java5-jre the thing i need to tomcat?
[03:02] <sparkleytone> _ian_: are you running on command line or in X11?
[03:02] <AJR> ndks
[03:02] <sparkleytone> pty: yeah
[03:02] <AJR> sparkleytone: ndiswrapper how to doesnt exist
[03:02] <M_A_K> variant : should I do the cp as sudo as well?
[03:02] <sparkleytone> AJR: the link is bad if you're following from the wiki page
[03:02] <_ian_> cpp:
[03:02] <_ian_>   Depends: cpp-4.0 (>=4.0.3) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[03:02] <sparkleytone> AJR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:03] <AJR> sparkleytone: gone through all of that, i had it working until i rebooted
[03:03] <sparkleytone> _ian_: have you done "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[03:03] <_ian_> that.... when using aptget update that shows up....error messages always have cpp on it... i tried updating using update manager but it says some problems with dependencies
[03:04] <sparkleytone> AJR: so you got it working by going thru that doc?
[03:04] <sparkleytone> AJR: and then you rebooted?
[03:04] <M_A_K> variant : seems that links are not getting recreated.
[03:04] <mazsola> hi all
[03:04] <_ian_> yes... error too.... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:04] <_ian_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:04] <LabThug> anyone in here use PHP on their Dapper box?
[03:04] <ragnar_123> yeah
[03:04] <AJR> sparkleytone : xactly
[03:05] <Magicdead> hi, i got a problem, ever since i installed xgl and beryl (which used to much cpu) and deinstalled it again, my capslock key and the multimedia key for "turn volume down" are somewhat linked together (as are Num Lock and Mute key) so i i press caps, volume goes down by 1 and capslock turns on, (and the same when i press the volume down button)
[03:05] <HumanPrototype> _ian_: are you running another apt-get process, synaptic, aptitude or any other apt client?
[03:05] <AJR> sparkleytone: since reboot it doesnt want to work, someone suggested ndis had lost config
[03:05] <sparkleytone> _ian_: that means you probably already have synaptic or aptitude running
[03:05] <Magicdead> or if i press numlock it mutes sound and turns numlock on
[03:05] <LabThug> ragnar_123: can you tell me if you can use the http_redirect function?  And if so, what php packages you have installed?
[03:05] <sparkleytone> _ian_: you can only access apt one at a time
[03:05] <_ian_> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:05] <_ian_>   cpp cpp-4.0
[03:05] <_ian_>  that irritating error always shows up at the end
[03:06] <Magicdead> i guess this has to do something with the xmodmap you have to autoload when you install xgl+beryl, but i removed the xmodmap entry and restarted the gui, but the problem is till there
[03:06] <sparkleytone> _ian_: what are you using?  synaptic, apt-get, aptitude?
[03:06] <_ian_> apt get
[03:06] <sparkleytone> _ian_: are you familiar with aptitude?
[03:06] <fnf> _ian_: You may google for 'The following packages have been kept back' but the immediate solution is '#apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:06] <ragnar_123> LabThug, i dont use the http_redirect function, and my box does not boot atm, so here i sit on a live cd
[03:06] <_ian_> not really im really new...
[03:06] <sparkleytone> thats what i said fnf
[03:07] <LabThug> ragnar_123: ok, thanks
[03:07] <sparkleytone> AJR: either your ndiswrapper lost its config or you didn't set it up to load on boot
[03:08] <sparkleytone> AJR: what happens when you "sudo ndiswrapper -l" ?
[03:08] <AJR> sparkleytone: wel i hve since done the ndiswrapper -m thing to load it as startup but ive rebooted and that doesnt work, i think its lost its config, ive tried repeating the steps i did efore, doesnt work
[03:09] <_ian_> when i type this :
[03:09] <AJR> sparkleytone: stuff about failed to bring up wlan0 then installed ndis drivers, athfmwdl driver present, hardware present and netgw11t driver present
[03:09] <_ian_>  apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:09] <_ian_>  ...this shows up E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:09] <_ian_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:10] <fdoving> !adept crash fix > _ian_
[03:10] <{_-IcE-_}> sudo ..
[03:10] <fdoving> _ian_: try the command ubotu tells you in msg. even if you don't use adept :)
[03:10] <xbow> hi all, can't mount floppy in 6.06
[03:11] <fnf> _ian_: Make sure no other package manager tool (or a GUI tool such as Synaptic running), can you try running that in single user mode ?.
[03:11] <AJR> sparkleytone: stuff about failed to bring up wlan0 then installed ndis drivers, athfmwdl driver present, hardware present and netgw11t driver present
[03:12] <bun-bun> !init >bun-bun
[03:12] <mnepton> _ian_: actually, the answer you want is "use 'sudo' at the beginning of that command"
[03:12] <_ian_> fdoving i tried it already same error mesg regarding the kep back
[03:12] <_ian_> i did use sudo....
[03:12] <{_-IcE-_}> _ian_ : rebooted?
[03:12] <mnepton> well, that's not what you typed in here ;)
[03:12] <mnepton> _ian_: did you install build-essentials on that machine?
[03:13] <mnepton> *build-essential
[03:13] <_ian_> sorry but what are build essentials?
[03:13] <mnepton> gcc, make, etc etc
[03:14] <_ian_> cpp and gcc was there already because i was trying to find what the error messagge was. i didnt even install those things they were there already
[03:14] <bun-bun> !man > bun-bun
[03:15] <bun-bun> is there an online man page browser for ubuntu?
[03:15] <_ian_> is there a easier way to simply upgrade i mean all i do with this comp is to surf the net and listen to radios..... kinda hard for new users
[03:15] <mnepton> _ian_: get a CD.
[03:16] <xbow> How to mount floppy in ubuntu 6.06.      sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy freezes
[03:16] <mnepton> _ian_: is this a Breezy -> Dapper upgrade?
[03:16] <defrysk> bun-bun, <f1>
[03:16] <_ian_> but all my files and bookmarks and all the things i did will disappear right? 5.10 to 6.06
[03:16] <mnepton> _ian_: do not format the drive. your adata will be intact
[03:16] <mnepton> -a
[03:17] <_ian_> ok what i have here is kubuntu not ubuntu... will it still work?
[03:17] <_ian_> i mean the new cd
[03:17] <defrysk> _ian_, probably , you should ask in #kubuntu
[03:18] <mnepton> _ian_: it will work fine
[03:18] <yepla> salut
[03:18] <bun-bun> defrysk# i meant on the web, such as those provided by sun, freebsd etc
[03:19] <yepla> y a il un pro du vpn et de wins ?
[03:19] <defrysk> bun-bun, https://help.ubuntu.com/
[03:19] <_ian_> ok...i guess ill have to reinstall usign a cd....btw i t ried usingg that live cd it worked ok though my net was not there..... i mena no connect but im sure its working since im using it now
[03:19] <defrysk> !fr
[03:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:20] <nearfar> I am using minimal window manager. Can I use gnome-panel without the zillions of libraries loaded along with it (eg: bonobo, etc.) ?
[03:21] <gholen> when I upgraded to edgy, my swap were deactivated, and it says unable to find swapspace signature, how do I solve this problem
[03:21] <bun-bun> defrysk# i'm not seeing a man-page browser at help.ubuntu.com
[03:22] <defrysk> bun-bun, not sure what you want then
[03:22] <Nyto-RJ> I think I got all !mp3 things...
[03:22] <Nyto-RJ> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs w32codecs Nota: para habilitar o w32codecs, veja a seo Windows Codecs
[03:23] <Nyto-RJ> thx you guys
[03:23] <bun-bun> defrysk# something like this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi
[03:23] <Nyto-RJ> cya
[03:23] <defrysk> bun-bun, in gnome yelp is the man page browser
[03:23] <bun-bun> ..
[03:29] <variant> M_A_K: thats symlinks?
[03:29] <variant> M_A_K: symlinks wont be..
[03:29] <M_A_K> Yes.
[03:29] <M_A_K> I guess that is not a problem.  I will just have to recreate them
[03:30] <M_A_K> Is it bad for me to install 5.10 and let the updater update up to 6.0.6...?
[03:30] <variant> you should be able to do it
[03:30] <variant> M_A_K: no, that is a common way to update
[03:31] <M_A_K> Ok.  Cause I used to use a program that I installed under 5.10 and when I wiped my HD and installed 6.0.6, I cant install the software now.  I am guessing it needed older libraries.
[03:31] <variant> M_A_K: cp -a -p would be better
[03:31] <variant> M_A_K: what was the software?
[03:31] <devious_bastard> I have a bit of a noob question that I haven't found an answer for on the forums, and I was wondering if someone could help me.
[03:31] <variant> devious_bastard: go ahead
[03:32] <devious_bastard> I run two PCs, one of which is a windows box, and the other is an Ubuntu box.
[03:32] <devious_bastard> The problem is,
[03:32] <[matrix] ubu_dapp> simpatia
[03:32] <devious_bastard> I don't have an internet connection for my ubuntu box
[03:32] <devious_bastard> And I want to get the mp3 codecs to work
[03:32] <devious_bastard> But it seems I can't do that.
[03:32] <devious_bastard> Without an IC
[03:33] <variant> devious_bastard: the simplest thing to do is make the ubuntu box the gateway and have windows connect through it
[03:33] <devious_bastard> Well, that's not really an option for me
[03:33] <devious_bastard> What is the alternative?
[03:33] <defrysk> buy a router
[03:34] <M_A_K> what will that give me that cp -a won't?
[03:34] <M_A_K> It is proprietary software for a smartboard.
[03:35] <variant> devious_bastard: make the windows box the gateway then, shouldnt be a problem
[03:35] <devious_bastard> See, I just need to find a way to download the files onto my flashdrive and install them that way, but I don't know what files I need.
[03:35] <diebels> Anybody know how to apply the fix for Bug #59715 to edgy?
[03:35] <variant> diebels: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:35] <diebels> ok
[03:36] <devious_bastard> So is there anything I can do along those lines?
[03:36] <devious_bastard> Are there any zip packages I can get?
[03:37] <devious_bastard> Is there anything along those lines I can do?
[03:38] <jch> What needs to be done to get p4-clockmod support for P4 CPU freq scaling?
[03:39] <jch> (In edgy?)
[03:40] <doomz> help ! :(
[03:40] <doomz> I cant install ubuntu
[03:41] <MatthewV> doomz, please describe your problem, so someone can help you..
[03:41] <doomz> after the cd loads up the kernel i get: [17179570.40000]  PCI: Faied to allocate mem resource #6:20000@...... for 0000:01:00.0
[03:41] <doomz> I tried the forums and stuff...
[03:41] <ReverseBlade> doomz, check the CD
[03:41] <doomz> its the latest
[03:41] <yokobr> hey, someone there in ubuntu 64?
[03:41] <doomz> downloaded it AGAIN
[03:41] <MarcN> doomz: how much memory do you have?
[03:41] <doomz> same problem
[03:42] <ReverseBlade> doomz, no, there is a menu "check CD" before installing
[03:42] <doomz> 1,024
[03:42] <doomz> the cd is ok !!
[03:42] <doomz> already checked it
[03:42] <ReverseBlade> doomz, you didn't but ok
[03:42] <doomz> I've used this cd on my old pc and it works like a charm
[03:42] <doomz> ReverseBlade: i did
[03:42] <doomz> ReverseBlade: I checked the cd and the memory
[03:42] <leonel> hello :  will there be  SUN JDK updates for dapper or edgy   dapper has  version 1.5.0-06  and curently sun has released 1.5.0.09
[03:43] <cycom> Anyone have any idea why a media keyboard volume down button would show up as 'mouse 2' in xev?
[03:43] <variant> cycom: badly made keyboard?
[03:43] <doomz> ReverseBlade: I bought a new machine, and this problem occours only with it
[03:43] <ReverseBlade> doomz, it is not checking. You have to select check CD to check it. It may work on another pc but this does not prove your CD works with the drive. Some times there occurs incompatibilities between the CD and the dRive
[03:44] <cycom> variant: logitech cordless desktop optical.  worked in previous versions of ubuntu, stopped working in dapper.
[03:44] <variant> cycom: soryr, dont know
[03:44] <doomz> ReverseBlade: I've selected the check cd and memory
[03:44] <yokobr> i need a repository list for ubuntu 64
[03:44] <ReverseBlade> doomz, ok then
[03:44] <ReverseBlade> leonel, may be
[03:45] <cheesy> habe mit ubuntu das erste mal linux ohne ein einziges problem installiert
[03:45] <cheesy> +als
[03:46] <variant> cheesy: #ubuntu.dk for you i think
[03:46] <cheesy> oh sorry
[03:46] <grubenpony> cheesy: das ist schoen, but this is a englisch only channel
[03:46] <grubenpony> !de
[03:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:46] <ReverseBlade> doomz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244817
[03:47] <cheesy> i just wanted wo mention that ubuntu was the first distro i installed without one little problem
[03:47] <variant> cheesy: :)
[03:47] <cheesy> -w+t
[03:47] <grubenpony> cheesy: yeah, runs like a charm :)   of course, the newer the hardware, the more problems you can get (even with ubuntu)
[03:47] <yokobr> please guys, anyone has a complete list of repositories for ubuntu 64 bit??!
[03:48] <yokobr> i cant update my compiz
[03:48] <ReverseBlade> doomz, AFAIU that error message do not prevent from booting. there may be another reason
[03:48] <doomz> ReverseBlade: the machine hangs after this error
[03:48] <gnomefreak> yokobr: please ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:48] <yokobr> thax
[03:48] <doomz> ReverseBlade: I came across this thread few days ago
[03:48] <slop> yokobr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260452
[03:48] <slop> bah
[03:49] <doomz> ReverseBlade: I understand that I need a newer kernel but
[03:49] <variant> anyone know where to get cheap microatx based systems?
[03:49] <doomz> ReverseBlade: in order to have the newest kernel I need to have an already running system
[03:49] <ReverseBlade> doomz, you may try edgy
[03:49] <doomz> ReverseBlade: help :( Im stuck on Win for a month now =(
[03:50] <ReverseBlade> doomz, did ya ?
[03:50] <xipietotec> eh....just a general question the bash for unix and bash for linux aren't different are they? (I'm using an Oreilly book and it keeps saying "unix")?
[03:50] <doomz> ReverseBlade: I saw there alot of versions I dont know exactly what to download, Knop1 Knop2 Knop etc...
[03:50] <MarcN> xipietotec: only difference may be the version of bash
[03:50] <ReverseBlade> well now there is BETA
[03:50] <xipietotec> cool cool. =O)
[03:51] <doomz> ReverseBlade: Ill try the plain beta one, thanks ! :)
[03:51] <Subhuman> !schedule
[03:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:52] <ReverseBlade> doomz, go http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[03:52] <doomz> thanks !
[03:52] <ReverseBlade> doomz, note that it will be released in 10 days
[03:54] <{_-IcE-_}> quick quest... how do i cp with subdirectories pls?
[03:54] <doomz> ReverseBlade: can it update its revision like FreeBSD ?
[03:54] <doomz> because I know that in Linux you cant...
[03:54] <ReverseBlade> doomz, I am not sure of that . I never install beta
[03:54] <variant> {_-IcE-_}: cp -r
[03:54] <{_-IcE-_}> cheers
[03:54] <ReverseBlade> doomz, but search it in the forums. plenty of posts there
[03:55] <variant> doomz: you can apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:55] <TreMobyl> doomz: "it" is what?
[03:55] <doomz> it = ubuntu beta
[03:55] <ReverseBlade> doomz, it refers to "upgrading to edgy" or a similar phrase
[03:55] <ReverseBlade> doomz, probably it is
[03:55] <doomz> thanks ReverseBlade, u've helped me alot
[03:56] <gholen> I have problems with the upgrade from dapper to edgy, My swap dissaperard, and "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda4" gives this "Disk /dev/hda4 doesn't contain a valid partition table" How do I change it?
[03:56] <Ninja562> what directory are the wallpaper files kept on Ubuntu?
[03:56] <ReverseBlade> doomz, yw
[03:56] <ReverseBlade> Ninja562, any directory
[03:56] <ReverseBlade> just set the image as a wallpaper
[03:56] <doomz> even for 10 days.... developing in M$ workspace... its a living hell
[03:56] <unimatrix9> hi there
[03:57] <variant> Ninja562: defaults are in /usr/share/ somwhere and ones you set yourself will be whereever they are stored
[03:57] <mrinne>   Can anyone tell me if I can import my thunderbird profiles from a windows version to the ubuntu one?
[03:57] <Ninja562> ReverseBlade: yea, but the defaults are in a certain place and I wanted to put my pics ther as well
[03:57] <MarcN> gholen: use fdisk /dev/hda (not hda4) to see the partition table
[03:57] <unimatrix9> i use xchat,why does it load dbus.so? remote acces...
[03:57] <TreMobyl> doomz: not sure why you don't think you can upgrade linux
[03:57] <ReverseBlade> doomz, you don't need to curse MS. You don't need because linux is every which way better. You will see after using it some months
[03:57] <sidny4> why doesn't ubuntu recognize the size of my USB drive?
[03:57] <unimatrix9> cant seem to unload it, is it danger?
[03:57] <TreMobyl> ReverseBlade: no, it's not.
[03:57] <Ninja562> variant: /user/sharegot yaa, thx
[03:57] <cheesy> where can i see what will be/is new in 6.10?
[03:57] <ReverseBlade> TreMobyl, what is not ?
[03:58] <TreMobyl> ReverseBlade: compatibility primarily.  Most apps are designed for Windows, not Linux, as is hardware.
[03:58] <doomz> ReverseBlade, lol.... I migrated from fBSD to ubuntu after few good years.
[03:58] <ReverseBlade> TreMobyl, so ?
[03:58] <gholen> MarcN, I've tried that, change it with fdisk, but it's quite  clear that I do somethiong wrong, can you help me?
[03:58] <TreMobyl> ReverseBlade: so, for the average user, windows is a local minimum.
[03:58] <TreMobyl> not global minimu, but lodal.
[03:59] <jrib> cheesy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft click on the beta release pages
[03:59] <MarcN> gholen: did you change the partitions when using fdisk /dev/hda4?
[03:59] <ReverseBlade> TreMobyl, so ?. After spending few months he will be a  better average user. At that time linux will be better than windows for him
[03:59] <cheesy> thanks
[04:00] <TreMobyl> ReverseBlade: unless he must use a Windows-only app or hardware
[04:00] <TreMobyl> monopolies suck.  This is one reason why.
[04:00] <finalbeta> Nautilus has a search button, what does it actually do? I mount a CD? press earch, but it doesn't seem to search at all.
[04:00] <unimatrix9> okay other question, is there an program for linux that surfs online tv?
[04:00] <gholen> MarcN, yes, I tried to change the table for the swap, from ID 83 to ID 82, but it doesn't give a damn :(
[04:00] <ReverseBlade> TreMobyl, for the applications, it is usually not a problem. Mostly there is a free alternative, if there isn't then there is wine and mono
[04:00] <TreMobyl> ReverseBlade: that's no panacaea
[04:00] <HumanPrototype> TreMobyl: why do monopolies suck?
[04:00] <sidny4> why doesn't ubuntu recognize the size of my USB drive?
[04:00] <Isaacariah> whoop
[04:00] <Isaacariah> krazykit, you here/
[04:00] <doomz> TreMobyl, everything can be over ridden, the question is how elegant the solution is
[04:01] <unimatrix9> sidny, how can you tell?
[04:01] <TreMobyl> doomz: wine is not an elegant solution.  :)
[04:01] <MarcN> gholen: without getting into what you did, you may have mucked up your disk.   I'm going to pass on helping.  /me back to work
[04:01] <doomz> TreMobyl, ofcourse :)
[04:01] <sidny4> unimatrix9, it recognizes that it's plugged in but says that there is 0 bytes of space left
[04:01] <TreMobyl> vendors porting their software and designing their hardware for linux is a much more elegant solution.  :)
[04:01] <fnf> sidny4: Perhaps the FAT is broken, have you tried reformatting it ?.
[04:01] <doomz> TreMobyl, after I saw XGl, I think that the only thing which is keeping linux from dominating the market is a good migration kit which will be easy to use
[04:02] <Isaacariah> are there iPod drivers for linux?
[04:02] <sidny4> it sees the files on it (there should be 200 megs still)
[04:02] <joao> how can I open an application manager like ctrl+shift+esc in windows?
[04:02] <TreMobyl> doomz: there's a *lot* of things keeping ABM for dominating the market.
[04:02] <TreMobyl> See also, monopolies suck.
[04:02] <sidny4> fnf, I haven't tried that yet
[04:02] <doomz> TreMobyl, u cant ask vendors to make software which wont sell
[04:02] <joao> ctrl+alt+del doesnt work
[04:02] <ReverseBlade> people for offtopic , there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <unimatrix9> sidny4 did it work before?
[04:03] <doomz> TreMobyl, in my area, I know few big firms who changed from MS os to Ubuntu, which is a great step
[04:03] <fnf> sidny4: Can you backup the files then reformat ?.
[04:03] <ReverseBlade> joao, www.getautomatix.com
[04:03] <nprowler> .
[04:03] <sidny4> unimatrix, yes, it has worked before
[04:03] <variant> Isaacariah: what do you mean? you can install linux on your ipod and there is a program for using itunes with your ipod on linux..
[04:03] <host`> how do I unistall a package with apt-get?
[04:03] <unimatrix9> doomz where do you live?
[04:03] <variant> joao: do not use automatix
[04:03] <joao> ReverseBlade, whats this?
[04:03] <ReverseBlade> variant, why not ?
[04:03] <doomz> Israel
[04:03] <cherubiel> host`: apt-get remove <packagename>
[04:03] <Isaacariah> Well actually I have rockbox on my ipod, but in windows, I still need the ipod drivers to see it when its in Disk Mode
[04:04] <joao> I just wanna kill an application
[04:04] <unimatrix9> okey, great steps there...doomz
[04:04] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:04] <ReverseBlade> doomz, variant Isaacariah #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <doomz> ok :) sotty
[04:04] <joao> Ive tried killlall but didnt work
[04:04] <doomz> sorry
[04:04] <variant> joao: it is a script which will install all the codecs etc (only 2 minnits to do manualy) and it will do it in a way that is not nesasarrily safe for your system
[04:04] <cherubiel> Isaacariah: ipodlinux/rockbox, try both
[04:04] <host`> !pastebin
[04:04] <waylandbill> joao, did you try xkill?
[04:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:04] <susscorfa> do someone know how to make a cd with some sources on it to intall it on a offline computer ?
[04:04] <Isaacariah> cherubiel, I have rockbox ON my ipod
[04:04] <ReverseBlade> joao, variant it is safe. you be sure of that. it is not offical yet
[04:04] <Isaacariah> I want to know if I need any special drivers to access my ipod via USB
[04:05] <joao> variant, can I install it in ubuntu 5.10?
[04:05] <cherubiel> Isaacariah: sorry lost context :D
[04:05] <variant> ReverseBlade: it uses --force so even if there is a problem with a dependancy it will force the install
[04:05] <Isaacariah> :P
[04:05] <variant> joao: install the codecs? yes
[04:05] <host`> when I try to uninstall this package, this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27217/
[04:05] <variant> !automatix
[04:05] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:05] <ReverseBlade> variant, it is better for him to use automatix than curse to ubuntu
[04:05] <Isaacariah> however seeing as thought I have misplaced my iPod, I wont be accessing it any time soon
[04:06] <variant> ReverseBlade: it is better for him to do it the correct way
[04:06] <host`> I've tried to pkill it with pkill mldonkey-server
 leonel, may be <-- Where can we read about it  ?
[04:06] <variant> ReverseBlade: rather than be cursing his borked system in a few weeks time or when he comes to upgrade
[04:06] <host`> but that still doesn't work
[04:06] <shuan> anyone know how i can install java to enable frostwire to work?
[04:06] <ReverseBlade> variant, in private
[04:06] <variant> host`: killall -9 mldonkey-server
[04:06] <variant> ReverseBlade: what?
[04:07] <host`> mldonkey-server: no process killed
[04:07] <mnepton> shuan: install sun's java5 jre via apt/synaptic and then run update-java-alternatives
[04:08] <shuan> thanks
[04:08] <joao> killall -9 doesnt work and xkill too
[04:08] <sidny4> how do I format my USB drive?
[04:09] <joao> oIve got "no aborted process"
[04:09] <whyso> how do i view .chm files in ubuntu?
[04:09] <redlance> sidny4, What would you like to format it as?  FAT32, ext3?
[04:09] <variant> sidny4: depends what filesystem you want but if its vfat then do mkfs.vfat /dev/sd@@
[04:09] <Isaacariah> whats the ubuntu equivalent of "safely removing" a USB device
[04:10] <variant> sidny4: where @@ is the partition to be formatted
[04:10] <sidny4> FAT32
[04:10] <fnf> sidny4: It depends on what kind of file system you want: try 'mkfs.ext3' if you don't intend to share it with Windows machines, 'mkfs.vfat' otherwise
[04:10] <redlance> Isaacariah, Unmount it
[04:10] <vbizcocho> www.netrochat.com
[04:10] <host`> joao, it isn't running in X
[04:10] <ReverseBlade> Isaacariah, unmount
[04:10] <Isaacariah> redlance, cheers
[04:10] <whyso> isaacariah: unmount it
[04:10] <Isaacariah> ...how do i go about that?
[04:11] <joao> it is not responding
[04:11] <redlance> Isaacariah, Do you have an icon for the device?
[04:11] <host`> it doesn't have a window
[04:11] <host`> it's running in the backgroud somewhere
[04:11] <whyso> system, administration, disks, click on the volume, and hit deactivate
[04:11] <Isaacariah> dont worry
[04:11] <Isaacariah> i got it
[04:12] <jenda> I need help configuring Ubuntu to use USB speakers. They are detected ok, and used when I press 'test' in the sound control window, but they never play any other sounds.
[04:12] <jessid> Hello to everybody...
[04:12] <variant> jenda: apt-get install alsaplayer and try to play a sound file with that
[04:13] <shuan> mnepton: i tried searching synaptic for java and its not there i also tried add/applications before i upgraded to ubuntu Lts it used to have it there
[04:13] <variant> jenda: also make sure all channels are unmuted and that your other programs are configured to use alsa for sound output
[04:13] <whyso> anyone know how to open a .chm in ubuntu?
[04:13] <ReverseBlade> shuan, searcch for jre or jdk
[04:13] <jessid> some of you have seen those beautiful effects in GNOME that allow to see windows as if they were made of ruber? How Can I do that in UBUNTU? thanks
[04:13] <ReverseBlade> shuan, why do you need java at all ?
[04:13] <redlance> Hey all, I've got a fresh install of Dapper, now I need to correctly get the correct kernel for my AMD XP2400, how do I do that?
[04:13] <jenda> variant: ok, the alsa issue is probably the thing. the sound currently plays from the lappy speakers.
[04:13] <joao> host', is there a kind of application manager in ubuntu ?
[04:13] <ReverseBlade> jessid, ubuntu wiki: XGL
[04:14] <M_A_K> Ok, Im getting set to flatten my HD and reinstall.  I want /, /home, swap.  How much should I use?  I have 80GB HD with an external 400GB.
[04:14] <shuan> reverse im trying to run frostwire
[04:14] <Xac_> where can i get a md5 tool to test the images under windows
[04:14] <fnf> whyso: apt-cache search chm help
[04:14] <jessid> ReverseBlade thanks!
[04:14] <whyso> thanks
[04:14] <ReverseBlade> shuan, search for JRE if you can'T find java
[04:14] <variant> Isaacariah: there is a way to mount usb disk with a "sync" option (used to just put it in fstab) that would make it pretty much safe to remove the drive without unmounting it first
[04:14] <variant> Isaacariah: however I dont know how to use that option with all the automounting that is currently done
[04:14] <variant> Isaacariah: perhaps with a udev rule
[04:14] <jenda> variant: configging amarok to play alsa gives no change...
[04:15] <host`> joao, not that I know of, I just looked through to make sure
[04:15] <shuan> reverseblade: i found java jdk environment
[04:15] <shuan> ?
[04:15] <jenda> variant: alsaplayer not a success either.
[04:16] <whyso> WOW is that apt-cache helpful :)
[04:16] <variant> sorry all, i am at work. back in 2
[04:16] <urakaipa> hi there, i've got some useful information for ssh via web using nat, maybe it could be interesting: some kind of router are not able to nat the client computer to the outside network (internet) and than nat the incoming request to the server computer. so if you want to test if ssh works via web (ie connecting from university to home using such a dyndns service) you cannot have a try using two computers under the same lan.
[04:16] <Isaacariah> variant, I'll look into it, thanks
[04:16] <joao> I know that there is, Ive oopened one in ubuntu by file system searching, but Ive forgot its name
[04:17] <joao> the kill comands are not closing my not responding applications
[04:17] <host`> you talking about aptitude?
[04:17] <[GuS] > peopl... how i do enabled mysql modlule for proftpd? i enabled inside /etc/proftpd/modules.conf
[04:17] <ReverseBlade> joao, there is forced to kill launcher
[04:17] <[GuS] > but when i type: proftpd -l is not
[04:17] <host`> joao, ok I found something
[04:18] <host`> "System Monnitor"
[04:18] <ReverseBlade> joao, right click to panel  add to panel
[04:18] <variant> joao: if those are graphical applications you can press alt + f2 and type xkill, then just click the offending app
[04:18] <redlance> What's the "proper" way to update my kernel?
[04:18] <grubenpony> urakaipa: my solution for that problem is to use ssh remote port forwarding
[04:18] <ReverseBlade> joao, there is a Force to quit icon
[04:18] <joao> host, Yaa that's  the name
[04:18] <variant> joao: did you try xkill?
[04:18] <variant> joao: it works every time :)
[04:18] <tritium> redlance: the debian/ubuntu way of compiling your own would be to install kernel-package, and use the make-kpkg tool
[04:18] <joao> ya but here didnt
[04:18] <host`> joao, but it's not listed in it either
[04:18] <variant> joao: :(
[04:19] <waylandbill> variant, I asked him that 10 minutes ago. :-D
[04:19] <ReverseBlade> joao, did you get my message ?
[04:19] <crimsun> jenda: ``asoundconf list''
[04:19] <variant> ReverseBlade: to upgrade your kernel just apt-get update && apt-get install linux-kernel
[04:19] <ReverseBlade> variant, wrong person
[04:19] <jenda> crimsun: ICH6 and Speaker
[04:19] <waylandbill> maybe a "sudo xkill" will go better.
[04:20] <variant> redlance: to upgrade your kernel just apt-get update && apt-get install linux-kernel
[04:20] <variant> redlance: woops
[04:20] <joao> whre is this launcher or icon?
[04:20] <variant> ReverseBlade: woops
[04:20] <crimsun> jenda: please use http://pastebin.ca for ``cat ~/.asoundrc*''
[04:20] <host`> joao, were you trying to help me with my problem earlier or were you asking for help with yours?
[04:20] <variant> god damn irssi nick completions
[04:20] <tritium> easy there, variant
[04:20] <urakaipa> grubenpony: could you please explain it to me?
[04:20] <unimatrix9> jenda or maybe try cat/bin/bash > /dev/dsp to see it it works  use ctrl+c to kill the signal if it works
[04:20] <ReverseBlade> joao, in Desktop & Windows section
[04:20] <redlance> variant, Ok, and which kernel is correct for my AMD XP 2400?
[04:21] <joao> host`, the second
[04:21] <variant> redlance: 686
[04:21] <ReverseBlade> variant, isn't K 7
[04:21] <jenda> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27219/
[04:21] <host`> oh, because I'm having a similar problem
[04:21] <host`> I can't get this program to shut down so I can uninstall it
[04:21] <jenda> unimatrix9: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[04:21] <mnepton> redlance: you want a K7 kernel for AMD on i386 Ubuntu
[04:22] <host`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27217/
[04:22] <waylandbill> K7 was for earlier AMD's. Athlons and Semperons use 686.
[04:22] <ReverseBlade> host`, sudo killall -9 <program_name> kills everything
[04:22] <crimsun> jenda: sound output is configured still to use the onboard
[04:22] <variant> ReverseBlade: your quite right
[04:22] <crimsun> jenda: are you using GNOME?
[04:22] <host`> ReverseBlade, I tried that, and it didn't work
[04:22] <redlance> Okay, thanks!
[04:22] <mnepton> waylandbill: incorrect. you should use a K7 kernel on all AMD products for 3DNow and other AMD extensions
[04:22] <ReverseBlade> host`, there is no way it can't work
[04:23] <jenda> crimsun: I just found it, I think... yes, Gnome
[04:23] <host`> I even did variations of the name
[04:23] <jenda> crimsun: aha, I see - I changed it. I'll reboot and see. thx
[04:23] <crimsun> jenda: no need to reboot
[04:23] <ReverseBlade> host`, are you sure you typed the correct name ? what is the application ?
[04:23] <sureshot> the 686 kernal really helped my intell m65 2gh machine have not loaded it on my sempron 64 yet but use the 686
[04:23] <crimsun> jenda: just restart the sound app(s)
[04:23] <grubenpony> urakaipa: i have a ssh account on a machine on the net (having a fixed ip). i let my home machine ssh to that account, building a remote port forwarding back to port 22 of my home machine. then i log in from anywhere to the ssh account on the net machine and then start a second ssh session from that machine to the local high port that is forwarded to my home machine.
[04:23] <host`> mldonkey-server
[04:23] <jenda> crimsun: ok, is there a command?
[04:23] <jenda> crimsun: ok, will do ;)
[04:24] <jenda> yay
[04:24] <jenda> :)
[04:24] <ReverseBlade> su you type killall -9 mldonkey server, and after you type ps |grep mldonkey , you see something ?
[04:24] <jenda> crimsun, variant: thanks
[04:25] <host`> ReverseBlade, nothing
[04:25] <host`> ReverseBlade, did you read the pastebin?
[04:25] <variant> host`: do ps aux | grep donkey
[04:25] <ReverseBlade> host`, sorry try ps -e | grep donkey
[04:25] <variant> host`: if it has a Z in that line then yer fecked
[04:25] <ReverseBlade> or above
[04:26] <variant> host`: if its a zombie process then you have to kill the parent
[04:26] <ReverseBlade> ReverseBlade, no I did not
[04:26] <ReverseBlade> oh damn
[04:26] <ReverseBlade> lol
[04:26] <ReverseBlade> host`, I did not
[04:26] <waylandbill> mnepton, for some reason my brain was thinking K6, not K7.. you're correct. :-/
[04:28] <host`> ReverseBlade, I didn't get any results with ps -e |grep donkey
[04:28] <eracc> Regarding ssh over the internet from remote locations to home or office PC with multiple PCs. Many routers can port forward to odd high level ports. Set each machine needing remote access to listen on a different high level port in sshd_config leaving the default port 22 for LAN connections. Then forward from the router to the odd high level ports.
[04:28] <variant> host`: if the parent is "init" then you have a problem (have to reboot) but the thing is, zombie processes are 99.999 percent harmless
[04:28] <host`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27217/
[04:28] <variant> host`: ps aux | grep donkey
[04:28] <cherubiel> host`: amd64?
[04:28] <host`> 1000      3475  0.0  0.1   2876   796 pts/0    R+   10:28   0:00 grep donkey
[04:29] <notwist> how do i create a virtual folder?
[04:29] <ReverseBlade> try that one host` ps aux |grep donkey
[04:29] <ReverseBlade> virtual folder ?
[04:29] <variant> host`: thats not it, just the grep process
[04:29] <variant> host`: so, you dont have the donkey process running
[04:29] <host`> apparently not
[04:29] <eracc> Do not forget to limit ssh logins to specific users if using password logins and change the user passwords regularly.
[04:29] <variant> host`: can you take a screenshot of the problem?
[04:29] <ReverseBlade> variant, I think he had to make sudo ps ...
[04:29] <host`> I just pastebined it
[04:30] <variant> ReverseBlade: by default root owned processes are not hidden from users
[04:30] <ReverseBlade> variant, alright
[04:30] <catalytic> hi all
[04:30] <variant> catalytic: hi
[04:30] <catalytic> can anyone suggest a good system montor for my xfce desktop?
[04:30] <cherubiel> host`: Change in /etc/init.d/mldonkey-server;
[04:30] <cherubiel> install -o mldonkey -g mldoney -m 755 -f $PIDFILE
[04:30] <cherubiel> with
[04:30] <cherubiel> install -o mldonkey -g mldonkey -m 755 -d $(dirname $PIDFILE)
[04:31] <ReverseBlade> catalytic, go #xubuntu
[04:31] <catalytic> ok
[04:31] <poprofits> is there a portuguese ubuntu channel ?
[04:31] <tritium> !pt
[04:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:31] <ReverseBlade> !pt
[04:32] <joao> variant, I think that now I know why kill was not workin... I was trying to kill amsn but this name is not recognized, I had to kill wish instead amsn
[04:32] <eXistenZ> joao, killall amsn
[04:33] <ReverseBlade> killall joao, lol
[04:33] <joao> heuheuheuhue
[04:33] <poprofits> can somebody tell me how i connect in the adsl with ubuntu live ?
[04:33] <joao> I prefer using gnome-system-monitor
[04:33] <ReverseBlade> poprofits, is your modem a router, or usb based ?
[04:34] <poprofits> router
[04:34] <ReverseBlade> poprofits, no need to make any setup than
[04:34] <notwist> hey, how do i create a virtual folder? like, a shortcut sort of
[04:34] <redlance> How do I test out my #D acceleration?  I know there is a command to show some animated gears, but I don't remember it.
[04:34] <notwist> anyone?
[04:34] <redlance> er, 3D even
[04:34] <poprofits> but i dont want to make my modem a router
[04:34] <elkbuntu> redlance, glxgears
[04:34] <ReverseBlade> redguy, glx_gears --print or something
[04:34] <MarcN> notwist: what do you mean by a virtual folder.  Never heard of that term
[04:35] <redlance> elkbuntu, Thank you
[04:35] <ReverseBlade> redlance, , glx_gears --print or something
[04:35] <catalytic> glx_gears-printfps
[04:35] <host`> cherubiel, I changed it and I still get the same error
[04:35] <ReverseBlade> that was it
[04:35] <notwist> MarcN: well.. i dont know what its called. Like, I want a folder in my FTP folder to redirect to /home/notwist/mp3 for example
[04:36] <MarcN> notwist: you want a soft link.  man ln   (you want something like ln -s /home/foo/bar /somewhere/else)
[04:36] <notwist> MarcN: thanks mate
[04:36] <redlance> Ok, they run slow.  I have an ATI Radeon 9600.  I know support isn't the greatest, but what's the best way to set it up?  ATI's driver, or the open source one?
[04:36] <ubutom> Does anybody know how I can tell apt-get, or aptitude, to remove all package and reinstall them? I want to upgrade to edgy, and having some trouble with dependencies. So I would like to have a fresh default install, without having to burn an edgy cd, and, if possible, with keeping my data ;)
[04:36] <ReverseBlade> redlance, the answer is fglrx
[04:36] <cherubiel> host`: any luck?
[04:36] <ReverseBlade> !fglrx
[04:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <host`> cherubiel, none at all
[04:36] <host`> same error when uninstalling
[04:37] <cherubiel> host`: did you modify the script?
[04:37] <host`> yes
[04:37] <redlance> ReverseBlade, Thanks again!
[04:37] <ReverseBlade> yw
[04:38] <ReverseBlade> redlance, though a very bumpy road is ahead of you , lol
[04:38] <cherubiel> host`: could you pastebin you're scritp file?
[04:39] <host`> sure, just a sec
[04:39] <ripper> i've upgraded to edgy from dapper, now nautillus doesnt work, how can i fix this w/o doing a complete reinstall? i've tried editing sources.list back to dapper and doing apt-get update & upgrade, with no luck.
[04:39] <redlance> ReverseBlade, I know.  I had it working under Hoary, then it quit, and I never got it going again
[04:40] <ReverseBlade> ripper, try running nautilus from console and see  what errors do you get
[04:41] <ubutom> Does anybody know how I can tell apt-get, or aptitude, to remove all package and reinstall them? I want to upgrade to edgy, and having some trouble with dependencies. So I would like to have a fresh default install, without having to burn an edgy cd, and, if possible, with keeping my data ;)
[04:41] <ripper> heh i think that my upgrade was a mistake.
[04:41] <ReverseBlade> ubotu, just  back up your data and format it
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about just  back up your data and format it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <ubutom> hhm, is there no way at all? :(
[04:42] <ubutom> ty ReverseBlade
[04:42] <ReverseBlade> ripper, I know people who upgraded hoary => breezy => dapper => edgy and still have stable system
[04:42] <ripper> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BFHkw346.html
[04:43] <host`> cherubiel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27221/
[04:43] <redlance> ReverseBlade, So the fglrx is better then the actual ATI driver?
[04:44] <redlance> ReverseBlade, Oh, I see now.  nevermind
[04:44] <ReverseBlade> redlance, fgrlx is faster than default. But you have ubuntu's fglrx and ati's fglrx
[04:44] <redlance> ReverseBlade, Oh!  So how do I know which one I'm getting, and which one fo those is "better"?
[04:45] <Dragonfire> test
[04:45] <ReverseBlade> redlance, AFAIK there are some packages default in repos for fglrx, so if I were you I would go with repos first. If  you got serious problems you can revert back to ATI's
[04:45] <redlance> test received
[04:46] <wrabbit^> hi guys..... took a while but I think I've finally completed my upgrade to edgy
[04:46] <ReverseBlade> the difference is ATI's are not open source but rather property
[04:46] <wrabbit^> is there a way to find out for sure if things went ok?
[04:46] <host`> cherubiel, did you get that?
[04:46] <ReverseBlade> wrabbit^, if your computer works as you like ,then it is ok
[04:46] <redlance> ReverseBlade, Ok, so when I look in my X11 config, and it says ati that is ubuntu's version of fglrx?
[04:46] <ripper> any ideas as to whats going on with my ubuntu install here?
[04:46] <wrabbit^> ReverseBlade: I mean, is there a command that'll tell me which version I'm running in terminal?
[04:47] <ReverseBlade> redlance, no ati means the default (mesa). it is slow, you have revert it to fglrx by all means
[04:47] <redlance> ReverseBlade, Ok.  And do that by following the link you gave me earlier?
[04:47] <Donald1> Hello, i have a Lexmark 4300 (printer) and i wanted to know which driver i have to install, how to get it and how to install it
[04:48] <ReverseBlade> wrabbit^, a distro is a pile of packages in dividually. You can check your version of kernel, version of applications one by one. other than that there is no way you can see something like ubuntu 6.10 AFAIK
[04:48] <ripper> heh reboot the box, look close and you'll see it
[04:48] <ripper> i cant seem to go back to dapper via apt-get
[04:48] <ripper> and really really have too much to lose to reinstall
[04:48] <ReverseBlade> Donald1, make a search in google if it works with your printer. My OKI doesn't work at all
[04:49] <jenda> crimsun: hmm... when I unplug the speakers, they fail to get detected again. Any idea how to invoke re-scanning?
[04:49] <cherubiel> host`: on dapper?
[04:49] <host`> yes
[04:49] <Donald1> ReverseBlade: what do i search for? ubuntu compatible with lexmark 4300?
[04:50] <wrabbit^> ReverseBlade: ok, thanks.  There were just alot of issues with x and others so I just want to make sure it actually worked
[04:50] <crimsun> jenda: you have to ``sudo modprobe -r snd_usb_audio''
[04:50] <ReverseBlade> google: linux "lexmark 4300"
[04:50] <crimsun> jenda: known issue, wasn't fixed in time for Edgy
[04:50] <ReverseBlade> Donald1, google: linux "lexmark 4300"
[04:50] <jenda> crimsun: cool. But: It won't modprobe... "FATAL: Module snd_usb_audio is in use."
[04:51] <crimsun> jenda: that's because some apps still think the device exists (when it doesn't). Use ``kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*)''
[04:52] <jenda> crimsun: cool :) thx
[04:52] <ReverseBlade> wrabbit^, it probably worked. Don't take linux something like windows. In windows everything drivers etc are tightly coupled that you can never trust the system integrity. In linux things work different. It is designed that everything works independently
[04:52] <crimsun> jenda: np
[04:52] <ripper> anyone got any suggestions for me?
[04:52] <ReverseBlade> ripper, what's up ?
[04:52] <jenda> crimsun: one more thing. I carry the lappy to school every now and then. How will it behave when it finds out no speakers are plugged in?
[04:52] <AtKaaZ> hi, any idea why /etc/console-setup/boottime.kmap.gz is not in effect on ubuntu 6.10 ?
[04:53] <ripper> ReverseBlade nautillus wont start after i upgraded to edgy from dapper
[04:53] <wrabbit^> ReverseBlade: Yeah, that makes sense.
[04:53] <hackman127> I just installed postgres and I am trying to connect to the server, but cannot. It is running, but it says it is trying to connect through the socket .s.PGSQL.5432, but the socket is actually .s.PGSQL.5433! What could be causing this?
[04:53] <ripper> here are the errors.
[04:53] <crimsun> jenda: gconf-based apps (say, gnome) will default to whatever's present (that is, your onboard, which is card 0).
[04:53] <ripper> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BFHkw346.html
[04:53] <ripper> and i cant get the box to go back to dapper
[04:53] <crimsun> jenda: for other apps, you'll need to reset System> Preferences> Sound> [middle tab] > Set default sound card
[04:54] <ReverseBlade> ripper, did you install XGL or something ?
[04:54] <crimsun> jenda: or if you feel more comfortable with the command line, invoke asoundconf(1) directly
[04:54] <ripper> nope.
[04:55] <finalbeta> Nautilus has a search button, what does it actually do? I mount a CD? press earch, but it doesn't seem to search at all.
[04:55] <ripper> can this be fixed?
[04:56] <jenda> crimsun: ok, that's perfect (at least till the issue is fixed&better handled). thx again.
[04:56] <ReverseBlade> ripper, wait a sec
[04:57] <ReverseBlade> ripper, definitely , but I don't know if I can :)
[04:57] <Donald1> ReverseBlade: I checked on several websites and they say they all had problems with their printers but they  don't give any solutions
[04:58] <ReverseBlade> Donald1, unfortunately , some printer manufacturers , don't consider linux solutions. And there is no way to work it out. When you buy a printer make sure it works under linux next time
[04:59] <Donald1> ReverseBlade: ok, thanks for your help, this is the last time i'm buying Lexmark!
[04:59] <variant> Donald1: linux-printing.org has an excellent list of printers that work with linux. it also has reccomendations for ones that work flawlessly
[04:59] <Donald1> Variant: thank you
[04:59] <ReverseBlade> Donald1, just send them a mail and ask about the situation
[04:59] <variant> ~Donald1: linuxprinting.org has an excellent list of printers that work with linux. it also has reccomendations for ones that work flawlessly
[04:59] <sureshot> it is funny lexmark used to be ibm.. ibm now uses linux on it servers and sells them that way and now lexmark will not work on linux how funny
[05:00] <variant> Donald1: sorry, its linuxprinting.org not linux-printing.org
[05:00] <Donald1> ok
[05:00] <ripper> this is sucking
[05:01] <cherubiel> ripper: try strace nautilus
[05:01] <cherubiel> and pastebin the verbose output
[05:01] <Donald1> I have another question, how can i make my wireless to connect directly to my router without having to type my WEP key each time?
[05:01] <ripper> hahahah thats like 20 pages so far
[05:01] <variant> cherubiel: afaik gnome is not built with debug enabled so strace will be fairly useless
[05:02] <variant> ripper: what is wrong?
[05:02] <ripper> i upgraded from edgy to dapper; nautillus wont start now, and i cant get the system to go back to dapper
[05:02] <wrabbit^> hi guys... how do I leave x so that I can install the beta nvidia drivers?
[05:03] <wrabbit^> thought it was init 5 but that doesn't work
[05:03] <ReverseBlade> ripper, I found nothingi though your problem looks like a gtk problem
[05:03] <variant> ripper: yeah, downgrading is not so easy.. reinstall if you cant be botherd fixing it. just be SURE NOT TO FORMAT /home
[05:03] <variant> ripper: you did put /home on a seperate partition didnt you?
[05:03] <ripper> pfft its not a seperate partition.
[05:03] <spiekey> hello!
[05:03] <ReverseBlade> not specif to nautilus I guess
[05:03] <variant> ripper: oops :)
[05:04] <ripper> and umm i had this problem once before.
[05:04] <ripper> with horay -> dapper
[05:04] <spiekey> this might be a little OT question, but how can i create 3 ext3 partitions with a script?
[05:04] <ripper> dont know how i got it fixed.
[05:04] <morphos> hello !
[05:04] <wrabbit^> anybody know?
[05:04] <variant> ripper: did you do it after dapper was released or while it was in development?
[05:04] <ReverseBlade> ripper, just reinstall if you upgraded 2 distros at once
[05:04] <ripper> after release.
[05:04] <hackman127> I just installed postgres and I am trying to connect to the server, but cannot. It is running, but it says it is trying to connect through the socket .s.PGSQL.5432, but the socket is actually .s.PGSQL.5433! What could be causing this?
[05:04] <morphos> I'm new in linux.
[05:04] <ReverseBlade> ripper, and go for 6.10 this time
[05:04] <ripper> im not going to reinstall if i can fix gtk
[05:05] <variant> wrabbit^: ctrl alt f1 and login then run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:05] <ReverseBlade> ripper, alright good luck
[05:05] <Donald1> How can i connect to wireless without having to put in my WEP key?
[05:05] <variant> morphos: hi
[05:05] <ReverseBlade> ripper, I am sure there is a solution though
[05:05] <notwist> my xmms keeps hanging up after some time, and after that I can't get it to start until after a couple of minutes. Could it be driver problems? I have an nforce2 mb with onboard audio
[05:05] <ReverseBlade> Donald1, just drop WEP thing from your router
[05:06] <ripper> yeah there should be.
[05:06] <ripper> i was told that this was stable.
[05:06] <variant> notwist: it certainly could be a driver probelm
[05:06] <notwist> variant: is there any way for me to know? what driver should I have? :/
[05:06] <variant> ripper: edgy is not stable (yet) although for my purposes it is very stable
[05:07] <variant> notwist: your using the right driver but its a reverse engineerd driver and may well be buggy. that might not even be the problem though
[05:07] <ripper> ok how can i reinstall gkt?
[05:07] <ripper> gtk*
[05:08] <variant> notwist: I would buy a new/second hand pci sound card tbh. they are very cheap
[05:08] <variant> notwist: avoid nvidia hardware if you plan on using free software
[05:08] <notwist> aw man
[05:08] <notwist> i think i have one laying around though
[05:08] <variant> notwist: cool
[05:09] <ripper> could someone tell me how to reinstall gtk since that seems to be the problem
[05:09] <Dr_willis> ripper,  thats windows thinking. :P
[05:10] <ReverseBlade> ripper, would not work but I understand your desperancy
[05:10] <ReverseBlade> ripper, what version are you using ? dapper or edgy ?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> ripper,  try making a new user.. see if the stuff works for that user.. if so.. your gnome configs are the issue
[05:11] <ReverseBlade> ripper, Dr_willis idea might work
[05:11] <ReverseBlade> 's
[05:11] <ripper> trying it.
[05:11] <ReverseBlade> ripper, what version ?
[05:11] <ripper> i've tried reinstalling gnome aswell
[05:11] <ripper> edgy.
[05:11] <ripper> dev version
[05:11] <ReverseBlade> hoary to => edgy ?
[05:11] <ripper> apparently didnt see that until it was too late.
[05:11] <ripper> no hoary > dapper > edgy
[05:12] <ReverseBlade> ripper, hmm
[05:12] <ripper> dapper worked fine
[05:12] <ReverseBlade> I understand you you don't want to reinstall
[05:12] <ripper> now why cant i go back to dapper?
[05:12] <ripper> no, i have alot of important data
[05:12] <ripper> i cant afford to lose
[05:12] <ReverseBlade> ripper, where is that important data ?
[05:12] <ripper> and no way to back it up
[05:12] <ReverseBlade> ripper, how no way ?
[05:12] <ripper> in my ~
[05:12] <variant> ripper: cd writer?
[05:12] <ReverseBlade> ripper, just back up that folder then
[05:13] <pty> ripper: use a livecd and copy it elsehwhere?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> If data is impornt enogh to notlose.. its important enough to backup. :)
[05:13] <variant> ripper: porn can be re-downloaded ;)
[05:13] <ReverseBlade> well said Dr_willis
[05:13] <dkesh> Hi, I run hoary on a server.  Uptime of 350 days, then it had to be rebooted, and since then it won't stay up for longer than 2 or 3 days.  It locks up completely, but doesn't reboot until power cycle.  My guess is some package I updated in the meantime is unstable.  Are there any known instabilities in late-stage hoary?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> File servers are out friends. :)
[05:14] <ReverseBlade> !ubuntu-server
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <ReverseBlade> dkesh, #ubuntu-server
[05:14] <dkesh> reverseBlade: thanks
[05:14] <ReverseBlade> you know you can use gmali as your drive and mount it ?
[05:15] <ReverseBlade> gmail
[05:15] <nmsa> !edgy
[05:15] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:15] <variant> dkesh: ReverseBlade yeah good point.. we should suggrest that too him nextt ime he is here
[05:15] <{_-IcE-_}> can someone tell me the difference between Command and Input to Command when scheduling cron jobs via webmin please?
[05:16] <variant> ReverseBlade: I wonder if you can span multiple gmail accounts in a kind of raid setup :)
[05:16] <ReverseBlade> variant, lol
[05:16] <ReverseBlade> variant, would be foolish to do, because gmail itself raided I guess
[05:16] <ReverseBlade> lol
[05:17] <robertwoes> Hello.  I downloaded unbuntu, but it says that I need something to open a torrent file.  What do I use?
[05:17] <variant> robertwoes: azureus is good
[05:18] <ReverseBlade> robertwoes, www.getautomatix.com
[05:18] <variant> ReverseBlade: grr
[05:18] <variant> ReverseBlade: if you must suggest that please at least include a warning that it may break your system
[05:18] <ReverseBlade> variant, I really wouldn'r recommend it, if it wasn't that great
[05:18] <variant> !automatix
[05:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:18] <defrysk> ReverseBlade, just dont reccomend it
[05:18] <defrysk> its not sup[oorted
[05:18] <defrysk> supported
[05:18] <ReverseBlade> variant, I know that but warning for automatix is an old thing. IT is now good and stable enough
[05:18] <robertwoes> i will use azureus, thanks
[05:19] <robertwoes> :)
[05:19] <Donald1> How can i make my wireless connect at login?
[05:19] <ripper> ok ReverseBlade it didnt work
[05:19] <leahciMic> hi, i was wandering if someone could help me with a bit of a serious problem ?
[05:19] <variant> ReverseBlade: if a user calles the ubuntu support line and says he used automatix to set up then they wont help them as the system is in an unpredictable state
[05:19] <ReverseBlade> defrysk, I will recommend it unless some authority says otherwise
[05:19] <defrysk> sure
[05:20] <defrysk> ReverseBlade, I will continue warning then
[05:20] <raintheory> does anyone testing Edgy have weird progress bars?
[05:20] <defrysk> unless some authority says otherwise
[05:20] <whyso> whats this mean in apt-get update? :  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[05:20] <ReverseBlade> defrysk, it is not because I am stubborn. It is because I believe it really works
[05:20] <leahciMic> i had weird progress bars on the usplash... seens funny colors thought it was normal... occasionally it looks diff
[05:20] <defrysk> ReverseBlade, sure
[05:20] <defrysk> I'm not stubborn either
[05:20] <variant> ReverseBlade: not only that, it automates the installation of non free software, so you assume that all users of ubuntu dont care about their rights
[05:21] <leahciMic> how can i remove everything under the metapackage ubuntu-minimal and re-install it ... (edgy) something TERRIBLE has happened.
[05:21] <ReverseBlade> variant, that's bs you know
[05:21] <defrysk> not bs
[05:21] <variant> ReverseBlade: it is? please enlighten me
[05:21] <defrysk> its true
[05:21] <raintheory> my progress bars in gnome dont fill in, but the text changes to whitish when it would be getting to it, so it looks really weird
[05:21] <ReverseBlade> philosophically I am against all the copyrights things
[05:21] <leahciMic> try a different themee ?
[05:21] <ripper> im going to sleep
[05:21] <catalytic> is windowmaker like another gui?
[05:22] <variant> ReverseBlade: so don't assume everyone else holds the same views as you
[05:22] <catalytic> like xfce, kde, gnome?
[05:22] <raintheory> tried different themes and everything
[05:22] <robertwoes> is azureus free software?
[05:22] <leahciMic> yes catalytic
[05:22] <ReverseBlade> I don't
[05:22] <variant> raintheory: odd
[05:22] <catalytic> is it possible to load windowsmaker as my gui instead of xfce?
[05:22] <catalytic> with xubuntu?
[05:22] <variant> catalytic: yes, in gdm select windowmaker as the windowmanager
[05:22] <raintheory> robertwoes: yes i beleive it is
[05:23] <leahciMic> robertwoes it depends in what sense of the word, it may be free to download, but is the source available ?, is there copyrighted code/material in the source ?
[05:23] <catalytic> is that the fact that I am using xfce with ubuntu the only reason it is called Xubuntu?
[05:23] <robertwoes> i mean is it open source free software
[05:23] <variant> catalytic: yep, it is an ubuntu themed xfce
[05:23] <variant> ReverseBlade: yes
[05:23] <Donald1> How do i do to make my wireless connect without having to put in my WEP?
[05:23] <variant> robertwoes: yes
[05:23] <robertwoes> excellent
[05:23] <robertwoes> thanks
[05:23] <variant> robertwoes: however you will have to use the non-free java runtime environment
[05:24] <airesina> TE animas a ablar
[05:24] <variant> robertwoes: although, I think ubuntu has a gcc compiled version
[05:24] <robertwoes> k
[05:24] <sureshot> Donald1 i dont know how to do it in ubuntu but you need a profile for your wireless to automaticly login when you connect
[05:24] <raintheory> i've been looking for an azureus alternative actually...   keeps eating up my memory and swap
[05:24] <raintheory> on dapper anyway
[05:24] <wrabbit^> variant: thanks for that
[05:24] <Donald1> Sureshot: how do create a profile?
[05:25] <variant> wrabbit^: for what?
[05:25] <airesina> Jose estas metido
[05:25] <wrabbit^> variant: oh, I asked how to close x
[05:25] <variant> wrabbit^: ok :)
[05:25] <wrabbit^> variant: was a little while ago ;)
[05:25] <variant> airesina: this is an english speaking channel.
[05:25] <sureshot> Donald1 you need to ask the room for that i dont use web but and i dont know but i thought you deserved and answer at least to point you in the correct direction
[05:25] <wrabbit^> So now I'm running edgy(I think) with the beta nvidia drivers
[05:25] <leahciMic> how can i re-install corrupt dpkg binaries ?
[05:25] <wrabbit^> all is good finally
[05:25] <airesina> ouifofkfk
[05:26] <variant> wrabbit^: cool, good luck.
[05:26] <lgonzalez> tu ere mu tota
[05:26] <airesina> Te animas a ablar luis
[05:26] <Qrious> hi peeps
[05:26] <sureshot> can someone tell Donald1 how to set up a wep profile for his wireless
[05:26] <variant> sureshot: would if i new :)
[05:26] <ks1> System>Administration>Networking
[05:27] <Qrious> wep profile? to access WEP or host it?
[05:27] <soundray> Donald1, sureshot: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking
[05:27] <robin_> Will 6.10 launch 26 october?
[05:27] <variant> robin_: with luck
[05:27] <Qrious> if it was gonna be delayed it would be by now I'm guessing
[05:27] <robin_> variant: ok
[05:27] <ks1> robin_: as far as we know.
[05:27] <Donald1> thank you Soundray
[05:28] <Qrious> RC1 is due out tomorrow
[05:28] <sureshot> soundray thanks man i will do that for other people but i dont use wep due to the face i live so far out i dont need security lol
[05:28] <Qrious> Hey, does anyone feel like helping me out setting up IMAP/SSL?
[05:28] <catalytic> um
[05:28] <robin_> Will FireFox 2 be finished before it releases?
[05:28] <sureshot> Donald1 i got your message man sorry i guess i need to reregister my nick or somthing
[05:29] <catalytic> this is prolly another super retardo question
[05:29] <catalytic> but all these different breeds of linux
[05:29] <Donald1> sureshot: ok, thanks again man
[05:29] <variant> robin_: no idea, check mozilla site
[05:29] <catalytic> ubuntu, xubuntu, slackware, dsl, etc
[05:29] <variant> robin_: i wouldnt have thought so
[05:29] <kosnick> is there any app like msn or yahoo mesenger that can have audio chats?
[05:29] <catalytic> are all just different gui interfaces for the same linux?
[05:29] <catalytic> or are there 2 or three core linux types?
[05:29] <robin_> variant: ok
[05:30] <catalytic> debian, redhat, BSD etc?
[05:30] <variant> catalytic: you can use any interface on any distro
[05:30] <catalytic> ok
[05:30] <sureshot> Donald1 np
[05:30] <variant> catalytic: there are main distros and there are main interfaces to those distros
[05:30] <Qrious> catalytic: the source code is mostly the same, and the interface is mostly the same, it's in the configuration that they differ
[05:30] <catalytic> what are the main differences between distro's?
[05:30] <icheyne> kosnick,  try skype
[05:30] <grubenpony> catalytic: BSD is not Linux
[05:30] <leahciMic> catalytic; the different distributions are a collection of pre-setup software on top of the linux kernel... IE some might use kde, some gnome some both.
[05:30] <catalytic> ok i see
[05:30] <variant> catalytic: thats not a question easily answerd
[05:31] <catalytic> what is bsd?
[05:31] <variant> leahciMic: some neither
[05:31] <leahciMic> bsd is unix
[05:31] <variant> catalytic: linspire
[05:31] <catalytic> ah i see
[05:31] <sudharsh> catalytic, a cousin of linux..kinda
[05:31] <Qrious> bsd uses a different kernel
[05:31] <variant> catalytic: it is bad, very very bad :)
[05:31] <leahciMic> linux is 'clone' of unix
[05:31] <catalytic> so my mac which is running on osx is running off of bsd, which is unix
[05:31] <grubenpony> catalytic: BSD is a different kernel, has nothing to do with linux
[05:31] <icheyne> tell kosnick about skype
[05:31] <catalytic> and my pc here is running xfce ontop of ubuntu ontop of debian
[05:31] <fredl> hi guys, I want to install php5-gd but it gives me a weird error which I think is because I've had the dotdeb pkg installed before: http://pastebin.ca/208339
[05:31] <Mikel0> anybody know how to install ff 2.0 rc3 on ubuntu
[05:31] <icheyne> !tell kosnick about skype
[05:31] <Qrious> one version of BSD, there are handful
[05:32] <leahciMic> linus tovarlds really wanted a unix system but at the time unix just was too expensive or he didn't like it so he made his own kernel1
[05:32] <Mikel0> !firefox
[05:32] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:32] <kosnick> icheyne : ok but i can not have voice chat with someone who uses msn or yahoo messenge then
[05:32] <fredl> does anybody here have php5-gd installed?
[05:32] <Qrious> Is anyone here good at mail server?
[05:32] <Qrious> s
[05:32] <grubenpony> catalytic: actually, BSD is one flavour of unix. learn about unix history on wikipedia.
[05:32] <catalytic> ok
[05:32] <Allz-i-> i need help guys my keyboard is all fine .but i cant use caps luck it just dont work :<
[05:33] <leahciMic> yeah there's also flavors of bsd, freebsd, openbsd etc
[05:33] <catalytic> im installing windowsmaker on synaptic at the moment
[05:33] <soundray> Qrious: ask your question. Don't ask metaquestions.
[05:33] <LimonJalisciense> i installed my hp laserjet 1020 i shared it but i cant print throu the network can anyone help me?
[05:33] <leahciMic> bsd is really for servers, and should not be used as a desktop replacement.
[05:33] <catalytic> when its installed, i log out and should have the option of starting a windowsmaker session?
[05:33] <whyso> whats this mean in apt-get update? :  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[05:33] <LimonJalisciense> help!
[05:33] <grubenpony> catalytic: the name is windowmaker (without the s)
[05:33] <leahciMic> yes
[05:33] <eXistenZ> leahciMic, What's your preferred mp3 player?
[05:33] <Qrious> I'm trying to set up SSL on IMAP/SMTP as well as FTP, does anyone know any good howtos?
[05:34] <ReverseBlade> catalytic, FreeBSD is dead
[05:34] <leahciMic> eXistenZ, xmms
[05:34] <Qrious> open source doesn't die, it just sleeps
[05:34] <leahciMic> what is urs ?
[05:34] <grubenpony> ReverseBlade: huh?
[05:34] <catalytic> what freeBSD got to do with anything?
[05:34] <fredl> FreeBSD is dea????
[05:34] <ReverseBlade> FreeBSD is dead
[05:34] <grubenpony> ReverseBlade: why?
[05:34] <ReverseBlade> one of it's co-founder admits this
[05:34] <variant> since when?
[05:35] <ReverseBlade> gradually it is dead, like php
[05:35] <variant> I work in a datacenter and i can assure you that its very much alive
[05:35] <chowsapal> does the livecd include wpasupplicant and knetworkmanager?
[05:35] <leahciMic> ok when i try and boot linux i get Error 15: File not found
[05:35] <ReverseBlade> PHP , the most used ,scripting language is dead as well
[05:35] <grubenpony> ReverseBlade: so it won't be developed any further?
[05:35] <fredl> ReverseBlade, cool, PHP died? LOL
[05:35] <catalytic> yes chow
[05:35] <fredl> damn
[05:35] <catalytic> it has wpasupplicant
[05:35] <variant> ReverseBlade: lol, your off your face
[05:35] <ReverseBlade> fredl, I am an expert on PHP
[05:35] <Qrious> PHP dead? say what?
[05:35] <eXistenZ> ReverseBlade, This really show what kind of an expert you are.
[05:36] <leahciMic> PHP is not dead.
[05:36] <eXistenZ> s/show/shows
[05:36] <catalytic> but i think u are better off writing ur on scripts and .conf instead of using the inbuilt network manager
[05:36] <fredl> ReverseBlade, cool, maybe you can help me with this error message then http://pastebin.ca/208339
[05:36] <fredl> ReverseBlade, I think you meant to say "Java is Dead" right?
[05:36] <ReverseBlade> Qrious, it doesn't make sense, to make further development with Plain PHP. now we have rails, django, java and .net
[05:36] <leahciMic> lol java is also the in thing
[05:36] <catalytic> java is not dead
[05:36] <leahciMic> java is no where near dead
[05:36] <grubenpony> ReverseBlade: your definition of dead is "is not actively developed" rather that "is not widely used"?
[05:36] <ReverseBlade> java is dying slowly also
[05:37] <defrysk> java is too fat to die
[05:37] <grubenpony> defrysk: hehe
[05:37] <fredl> well obesity kills
[05:37] <leahciMic> .net, java, rails.... fucking lazy programmers, long live C/C++ PHP etc
[05:37] <variant> ReverseBlade: you make an excellent comedian
[05:37] <whyso> what isnt dyng :)
[05:37] <chowsapal> catalytic: yeah -- well my girlfriend doesn't really know how to write her own scripts every time her comp boots up on the liveCD :)
[05:37] <variant> !language
[05:37] <defrysk> too much cholesterol
[05:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:37] <ReverseBlade> grubenpony, it is , that product will bring at most new version or so , not more
[05:37] <fredl> well what do C/C++ and PHP have in common?!?!?!?!
[05:37] <catalytic> "over a long enough timeline everythings survival rate reduces to zero"
[05:37] <ReverseBlade> grubenpony, one new version
[05:37] <ReverseBlade> PHP 6 is coming
[05:37] <ReverseBlade> but I still consider is dead
[05:37] <chowsapal> does the Gnome wireless GUI support WPA yet?
[05:38] <defrysk> ajax seems to be the new thing
[05:38] <catalytic> hey chowsapal
[05:38] <leahciMic> PHP has close resemblence to c++
[05:38] <ReverseBlade> anyway it is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <variant> chowsapal: I am not sure but i think its fairly experimental
[05:38] <leahciMic> ajax is a collection of technologies and not just a technology
[05:38] <ReverseBlade> PHP , c$$no way
[05:38] <catalytic> i just finished installing xubuntu onto my g/f's laptop
[05:38] <ReverseBlade> c++
[05:38] <blithe> Hrm, what's the latest stable kernel in the repositories?
[05:38] <fredl> chowsapal, nope. unless you install network-manager
[05:38] <defrysk> uname -r is
[05:38] <catalytic> and i set it all up so it is "g/f" proof
[05:38] <ReverseBlade> 2.6.17 I guess
[05:38] <catalytic> eg you turn it on and it works
[05:38] <fredl> chowsapal, haven't gotten it to work myself yet though :)
[05:38] <catalytic> had to install the cd onto a partition tho
[05:39] <Qrious> I recently tried xubuntu, the best tool I've found for wifi is wifi-radar
[05:39] <variant> ReverseBlade: what was that crap you were saying earlyer when you were whining in private to me about keeping the channel on topic? "the channel is not for discussion its for user support" so take your OWN advice
[05:39] <blithe> Do kernel updates show up in 'auto-update'?
[05:39] <leahciMic> no trust me php is similar to C++, ignore the automatic variable, type conversions etc.
[05:39] <chowsapal> catalytic: yeah, it will be easy to make it GF-proof on the disk install
[05:39] <Dragonfire> if I could only get java to run plug in I will accomplish a miricle
[05:39] <chowsapal> but for the liveCD it's harder
[05:39] <blithe> Because it hasn't told me I need to go to 2.6.17...
[05:39] <catalytic> make sure u have the right drivers for ur wifi before u use network-manager
[05:39] <catalytic> it kept hanging my system
[05:39] <blithe> I'm still on 2.6.15.
[05:39] <soundray> blithe: you don't.
[05:39] <chowsapal> the card shows up fine
[05:39] <ReverseBlade> variant, look above, I criticized my self
[05:39] <catalytic> now its setup so u never have to touch it
[05:39] <chowsapal> but her housemates have WPA setup...
[05:39] <Dragonfire> darn laws of the land I want my java plug ins
[05:39] <leahciMic> man is anyone going to help me :(
[05:39] <soundray> blithe: if you're on dapper, stick with 2.6.15 until edgy is released.
[05:39] <blithe> soundray: I can still update manually right?
[05:39] <fredl> catalytic, I know :P there's only few wifi cards fully supported by network-manager
[05:39] <ReverseBlade> valehru, <ReverseBlade> anyway it is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:40] <soundray> blithe: it's not recommended.
[05:40] <variant> leahciMic: what was the problem? i didnt see it because of all the mindless chatter :)_
[05:40] <defrysk> some need some chill
[05:40] <blithe> Roger.
[05:40] <blithe> Just curious.
[05:40] <whyso> what isnt dyng :)
[05:40] <whyso> whats this mean in apt-get update? :  GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[05:40] <catalytic> if u want to use WPA u cant use the network-manager
[05:40] <fredl> can anybody tell me why this happens: http://pastebin.ca/208339
[05:40] <leahciMic> sorry variant... are you able to read a forum post i made to save re-typing ?
[05:40] <soundray> blithe: the 2.6.17 package depends on edgy's libc, and if you upgrade that, you might as well do the full distribution upgrade.
[05:40] <variant> whyso: it means you have to add the gpg key tot he system
[05:40] <catalytic> u have to manually configure it
[05:40] <defrysk> whyso, its explained on http://packages.freecontrib.org
[05:40] <defrysk> just read it
[05:40] <whyso> ok thakns
[05:40] <variant> whyso: there is a comment in sources.list at the top that tells you how
[05:41] <fredl> catalytic, you can use network-manager for WPA, what are you talking about?
[05:41] <defrysk> no its not :s
[05:41] <chowsapal> so I just need to apt-get install network-manager?
[05:41] <leahciMic> variant; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1632011#post1632011 < that is my problem :( please help
[05:41] <Dragonfire> Soon as I get JAva to work I will be riding like these guy's
[05:41] <Dragonfire> http://www.linux-mag.com/download/2003-12/cover/easy_rider.jpg
[05:41] <fredl> well at least that's what it says. mind you network-manager is not the default network thingie in GNOME.
[05:41] <airesina> Como o las apaais tios
[05:41] <blithe> soundray: Good to know, thanks.
[05:41] <fredl> catalytic, yeah and network-manager-gnome I believe
[05:42] <airesina> me deciis paginas wew
[05:42] <ReverseBlade> variant, , <ReverseBlade> anyway it is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <cwill2> what's the name of the terminal mode utility to configure sound?
[05:42] <fredl> that's offtopic that offtopic talk ReverseBlade
[05:42] <variant> cwill2: alsaconf and its not in ubuntu
[05:42] <catalytic> fredl
[05:42] <cwill2> thx
[05:43] <fredl> yes ?
[05:43] <ReverseBlade> fredl, what ?
[05:43] <airesina> , knh ,k.hl
[05:43] <variant> cwill2: annoyingly
[05:43] <cwill2> alsamixer
[05:43] <catalytic> whenever I opened network manager there was no wpa
[05:43] <catalytic> only WEP
[05:43] <variant> who hda the php dependancy problems?
[05:43] <catalytic> there were like 3 buttons
[05:43] <catalytic> u could choose ASCII or hex WEP and that was it
[05:43] <leahciMic> variant; we're u able to take a look at my problem at all ?
[05:43] <catalytic> oh, and the ssid
[05:43] <ReverseBlade> fredl, there is difference between an lengthy offtopic talk and offtopic statement
[05:43] <variant> leahciMic: Its hard to follow any conversatiion here :)
[05:43] <variant> leahciMic: i am looking
[05:43] <fredl> ReverseBlade, if you say so :P
[05:44] <leahciMic> variant: thankyou... and i know waht u mean :P
[05:44] <defrysk> whyso, http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/
[05:44] <defrysk> whyso, correct link
[05:44] <soundray> leahciMic: I think rescuing your system will be more pain than it's worth. Backup whatever is left of the /etc directory and do a reinstall. Also consider backing up /var if you have databases, email spools etc. that you want to keep.
[05:44] <variant> leahciMic: ah, thats a bit of a pain.. we can only hope that windows didnt "fix" it to much!
[05:44] <Uqbar> hello all. does anybody have an ipod? can you show me the mount options with which dapper mounts it?
[05:44] <fredl> catalytic, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Network_Manager_with_WPA
[05:44] <variant> leahciMic: we can probably fix it if its not too badly damanged
[05:45] <leahciMic> it's not that badly damaged
[05:45] <leahciMic> i believe
[05:45] <catalytic> will that work ok in xfce?
[05:45] <variant> leahciMic: which parititon did it check?
[05:45] <daisuki> will zune be able to work in ubuntu ?
[05:45] <Qrious> anybody here know about setting up SSL?
[05:45] <soundray> leahciMic: okay, in that case I will leave you in the hands of variant, the optimist :)
[05:45] <fredl> catalytic, except, network-manager is rather difficult to get it to work :(
[05:45] <variant> soundray: :)
[05:45] <catalytic> ill leave it how it is
[05:46] <catalytic> as it is working fine
[05:46] <soundray> Qrious: that is another metaquestion
[05:46] <catalytic> and I know that as soon as i open it, it will pooch my settings
[05:46] <soundray> !metaquestion
[05:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:46] <leahciMic> /dev/hda2 (which is my linux / partition) /home is fine thank god
[05:46] <deadkenny> is it possible to set a dis quota for a specific directory (and not for a user)
[05:46] <variant> leahciMic: reboot to the live cd and run an fsck on /dev/hda2 if that works then you should be in the clear
[05:46] <fredl> Grrr, can anybody help me with this: http://pastebin.ca/208339
[05:47] <variant> fredl: ahh, it was you :)
[05:47] <grok> can anyone tell me how to change my default soundcard (and not just through the system>sound gui, it doesnt' work)
[05:47] <fredl> somehow apt has remembered that I had the dotdeb package installed.
[05:47] <fredl> variant, huh?
[05:47] <variant> fredl: have you tried apt-get installing one of those unmet dependancies?
[05:47] <ReverseBlade> fredl, are you trying to install php5-gd intentionally ?
[05:47] <soundray> deadkenny: not sure if this helps, but with tune2fs you can reserve blocks on a filesystem for root
[05:47] <whyso> dangit i still dont get it, how to i mkae apt-get give the pgp key
[05:47] <variant> fredl: i had the link open but couldnt remember who had the problem :P
[05:47] <fredl> ReverseBlade, yes
[05:48] <ReverseBlade> fredl, you  can always compile php as last resort
[05:48] <keithhhh1> what kind of pluggins do you guys use for blogging?
[05:48] <deadkenny> soundray: just for root?
[05:48] <fredl> variant, I think apt should do that by itself right?
[05:48] <soundray> deadkenny: yes
[05:48] <leahciMic> variant; done that.. it reports no errors now... i can mount the partition view everyting on it, chroot to it, run apps, run apt-get run aptitude.. but grub won't boot it. says Error 15, file not found... i thought it meant the vmlinuz and other boot images, i checked, double checked, deleted removed uninstalled and reinstalled the packages for the linux image etc, and still wont boot from same error....
[05:48] <defrysk> whyso, wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[05:48] <fredl> variant, I mean, that's what apt is for... :)
[05:48] <variant> fredl: yes, somtimes dependancies become brokenthough
[05:48] <fredl> variant, yes that's because I removed one line from my sources.list I think
[05:48] <fredl> variant, and I have after that apt-get update'd
[05:48] <deadkenny> soundray: oh no good! :P im trying to run an ftp server with vsftpd and virtual users, having a hard time finding info on setting disk quotas for each user (or their directory)
[05:49] <variant> leahciMic: ok, you probably only have to re-run grub installation
[05:49] <fredl> variant, but it still seems to 'know' something about it though.
[05:49] <deadkenny> soundray: thing is they are not real users, they only exist in the pam database
[05:49] <leahciMic> variant; done already...
[05:49] <variant> fredl: try apt-get install php5-common
[05:49] <dooglus> I have installed network-manager-gnome, but don't see any new icon in the taskbar.
[05:49] <daisuki> #channels
[05:49] <dooglus> is there something I need to do to see the icon?
[05:49] <keithhhh1>  what kind of pluggins do you guys use for blogging?
[05:49] <soundray> deadkenny: have you investigated whether vsftp makes any such provision?
[05:49] <fredl> php5-common is already the newest version.
[05:49] <fredl> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:50] <jek> ello everyone
[05:50] <ReverseBlade> fredl, you screwed up I think
[05:50] <variant> fredl: apt-get remove it, then rerun the original command that you are having the problem with
[05:50] <variant> fredl: apt-get remove php5-common
[05:50] <ReverseBlade> fredl, just remove php5-common  and install it from ubuntu repos
[05:50] <variant> fredl: then apt-get install php5-gd
[05:50] <hmrocha> hello, i'm creating a custom ubuntu livecd
[05:50] <deadkenny> soundray: from what ive read no, people recommend proftpd for quotas and flexbility, but ive read that proftpd is not that secure and that vsftpd is the most secure out there
[05:50] <waylandbill> fredl, it's trying to pull 5.1.4 from some other source.
[05:50] <fredl> Hmm, it can't remove it....
[05:50] <grok> anyone konw where i can find the file .asoundrc?
[05:51] <hmrocha> i want to change de keymapping of the gnome session
[05:51] <ReverseBlade> hmrocha, good for you
[05:51] <variant> leahciMic: are you sure you specified the correct kernel image?
[05:51] <catalytic> can i run gnome apps in xfce?
[05:51] <fredl> should I try removing it with force?
[05:51] <hmrocha> where can i change that?
[05:51] <ReverseBlade> catalytic, yes natively
[05:51] <fredl> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of php5-common:
[05:51] <whyso> hmmm it says displays the key and says it saved it, but when i try to add it it errors: gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[05:51] <leahciMic> positively... in grub i used auto complete to find the kernel... it is there...
[05:51] <alpha-lappy> hi, I'm having an issue with the Nvidia beta binaries, with an API mismatch... what module, and where, do I disable?  Does anyone have a solution?
[05:51] <variant> hmrocha: there is a keyboard layout switcher in the gnome-panel applets
[05:51] <hmrocha> ReverseBlade: good for you too
[05:51] <ReverseBlade> hmrocha, what is good for me ?
[05:51] <variant> leahciMic: what error do you get during boot please?
[05:52] <defrysk> whyso, try : gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x12B83718 ;  gpg --export -a 0x12B83718 | sudo apt-key add -
[05:52] <leahciMic> Error 15: file not found
[05:52] <hmrocha> ReverseBlade: the same you said it was good for me
[05:52] <variant> leahciMic: thats it?
[05:52] <defrysk> whyso, that one should work
[05:52] <dooglus> I have installed network-manager-gnome, but don't see any new icon in the taskbar.  is there something I need to do to see the icon?
[05:52] <leahciMic> yeap
[05:52] <hmrocha> variant: i don't want the students to use the layout switcher
[05:52] <ReverseBlade> hmrocha, it can't be good for me. Becuase you are compilling that CD for your own sake
[05:52] <fredl> variant, I tried dpkg --purge php5-common but that won't work unless I do a force. When I try to apt-get remove php5-common, it wants to remove a whole slew of other packages.
[05:52] <hmrocha> variant: i want them to boot with the correct keymap already
[05:52] <variant> hmrocha: ok.. you can specify a default.. I dont remember how to do that unfortunatly
[05:52] <waylandbill> fredl, sounds like you installed something from outside the ubuntu repos that brought in the 5.1.4 version.
[05:52] <variant> fredl: hmm thats a problem
[05:52] <defrysk> whyso, forget that one
[05:52] <hmrocha> variant: ok, i'll continue searching google
[05:53] <ReverseBlade> fredl, it is not that , you have some repos that installs 5.1.4
[05:53] <variant> hmrocha: sorry, i only know how to do it in gentoo. i will take a look on google myself in a momment
[05:53] <ReverseBlade> fredl, remove all extra repos, remove purge all php, then re install it
[05:53] <fredl> waylandbill, yup, I had PHP5 long before it was in ubuntu from the dotdeb repo
[05:53] <hmrocha> variant: how do you do it in gentoo?
[05:53] <robertwoes> i installed azureus and it says 'Testing port 41565 ... NAT Error' == what should i do now?
[05:53] <defrysk> whyso, wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[05:53] <defrysk> try that
[05:53] <whyso> ah cool trying :)
[05:53] <variant> hmrocha: its a userlocale setting.. i cant even remember that off the top of my head now :
[05:53] <fredl> Hmmm
[05:54] <hmrocha> variant: ok, thanks anyway
[05:54] <fredl> well I can remove all those packages and simply reinstall those too I guess
[05:54] <variant> robertwoes: open a rule on your firewall permitting bittorrent traffic
[05:54] <robertwoes> ok
[05:54] <waylandbill> fredl, in order to take out 5.1.4, you need to take out what it depending on it.
[05:54] <robertwoes> thanks valehru
[05:54] <variant> robertwoes: some ISP's block bittorrent
[05:54] <robertwoes> oops variant
[05:54] <ReverseBlade> fredl, just make sure you don'T have any extra repos i
[05:54] <fredl> waylandbill, doign that now.
[05:54] <whyso> YES THANKS!!!!!
[05:54] <robertwoes> i have earthlink dialup
[05:54] <variant> robertwoes: its ok, everyone calles me valehru
[05:54] <whyso> totally fixed
[05:54] <variant> :P
[05:54] <robertwoes> lol
[05:54] <fredl> ReverseBlade, I checked, in my sources.list all the old repos are out
[05:54] <defrysk> whyso, cool
[05:54] <ReverseBlade> lol
[05:55] <robertwoes> ok be back
[05:55] <variant> whyso: what was the probelm again?
[05:55] <ReverseBlade> fredl, not old ones, just remove the non standard ones
[05:55] <ReverseBlade> fredl, comment them out
[05:55] <defrysk> whyso, bookmark http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf for later reference
[05:56] <ReverseBlade> php is dead anyway :)
[05:56] <fredl> hehe
[05:56] <ReverseBlade> rails rocks
[05:56] <uhmmm> ReverseBlade, php lives!!!
[05:56] <whyso> gotit! the problem was apt-get update was failing cause it didnt have the correct gpg key
[05:56] <defrysk> deja vu ?
[05:56] <fredl> alright, it works now remarkable that that dotdeb dependancy somehow survived in my system without causing problems
[05:56] <ReverseBlade> until now
[05:56] <leahciMic> variant; ok retried grub-install... i'll let u know how it goes..
[05:57] <whyso> i know rails is cool, but why u call php dead?
[05:57] <variant> leahciMic: gl
[05:57] <defrysk> does php have an afterlife ?
[05:57] <variant> whyso: dont start him going again
[05:57] <uhmmm> ReverseBlade, =)
[05:57] <fredl> argh now my webserver thinks PHP files are PHTML files again
[05:57] <ReverseBlade> whyso, the upcoming version brings little benefit (mostly unicode). PHP web developing techniques are vastly outdated
[05:57] <robertwoes> i set a rule to allow all incoming and outgoing udp/tcp connections on all port to azureus.exe == is that safe?
[05:58] <fredl> God I hope the apt-get remove didn't throw all my configs away....
[05:58] <ReverseBlade> whyso, but there are nice frameworks like prado on PHP.
[05:58] <defrysk> anything .exe is unsafe
[05:58] <variant> robertwoes: it will do, would be better to set the port numbers specifically  but it should work
[05:58] <variant> k
[05:58] <robertwoes> let me do that
[05:58] <defrysk> robertwoes, portforward.com
[05:58] <robertwoes> :)
[05:58] <variant> ReverseBlade: take your own advice for a change PLEASE
[05:58] <soundray> deadkenny: my impression is that vsftp is designed primarily for ftp downloading, and not really as a fileexchange.
[05:59] <leahciMic> variant; i think im onto something...
[05:59] <variant> leahciMic: cool, grub install worked?
[05:59] <leahciMic> no not exactly
[05:59] <variant> leahciMic: hmm :)
[05:59] <ReverseBlade> variant, there is a difference between a lengthy discussion and a simple statement. I believe my conversation does not create any extra traffic here
[05:59] <boink> !release
[05:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:00] <robertwoes> ok changed the port to 41565 only
[06:00] <variant> ReverseBlade: /ignore ReverseBlade all (that certainly reduces the traffic you cause
[06:00] <robertwoes> thanks variant
[06:00] <leahciMic> for some reason it had (0,2) instead of (0,1) ..
[06:00] <Rope> !iso
[06:00] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:00] <variant> leahciMic: new it :)
[06:00] <elvar> i need help guys  i changed my keyboard to icelandic .but my problem is now .i cant use caps luck and some more keyboard stuff .:i did the command xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.is  to change my keyboard layout to icelandic
[06:00] <boink> !edgy
[06:00] <elvar> please help me!
[06:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:00] <leahciMic> changed and did root=/dev/hda2 and it worked !!1
[06:00] <boink> !schedule
[06:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:01] <whyso> jeezus guys he was jsut answering my question dont throttle him!
[06:01] <leahciMic> thanks for being patient with me variant; i knew all wasn't lost, i just needed someone to vent too while i boggled my mind and experimented... thanks for your input ...
[06:01] <AsheD> I am setting up a little box that I wish to passively cooled, would a 1600+ @ 1GHz or a 950+ @ 800MHz run cooler?
[06:01] <scobie> !nvidia
[06:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:01] <variant> hmrocha: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/map!!!
[06:02] <leahciMic> nothing has been lost i didn't have to format... :)
[06:02] <variant> hmrocha: thanks to scobie for that :)
[06:02] <variant> leahciMic: great stuff
[06:02] <variant> leahciMic: what was the problem? just the wrong digit
[06:02] <variant> ?
[06:02] <hmrocha> variant: i just need to change the xorg.conf keymapping from us to pt i suppose, i'll try creating the livecd with this setting
[06:02] <leahciMic> although i always keep /home seperate just in case... but i just really didn't want to setup my system again... i didn't want to have to upgrade to edgy, install the latest nvidia drivers, mess with things etc...
[06:02] <robertwoes> ok now i have the ubuntu download torrent on my disk, should i just drag and drop into azureus?
[06:03] <George_Harrison> hey...
[06:03] <A[D] minS> !ubuntu
[06:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[06:03] <variant> hmrocha: you see the xmodmap comment?
[06:03] <A[D] minS> !apache
[06:03] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:03] <soundray> scobie: any reason why you aren't choosing your layout via System-Prefs-Keyboard?
[06:03] <catalytic> omg
[06:03] <catalytic> windowmaker is disgusting
[06:03] <AJ--> just click the torrent file robertwoes
[06:03] <leahciMic> variant; yeah sort of... alot of other things were broke too... i removed everything from ubuntu-minimal ... and re-installed it all... then it for some reason put all the wrong information in my menu.lst.... fixed it all now
[06:03] <variant> robertwoes: yep, should work likethat
[06:03] <George_Harrison> im thinking about use ubuntu, and i want to see a "changelog", someone has the link?
[06:03] <etienne_> hi
[06:03] <catalytic> feels like using a screen made out of lego bricks
[06:04] <robertwoes> sweet
[06:04] <etienne_> anyone has a good alternative to visio for ubuntu?
[06:04] <AJ--> robertwoes: just click the torrent file and it will run the azureus
[06:04] <leahciMic> yeah i didn't think u'd like it catalytic; it's more for systems with low resources
[06:04] <soundray> George_Harrison: probably best to start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:04] <catalytic> well i saw that dream linux was using the docker
[06:04] <catalytic> and thats what wanted me to test it
[06:05] <catalytic> is dream linux another gui?
[06:05] <leahciMic> ok variant; this is how corrupt the menu.lst was...
[06:05] <leahciMic> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386
[06:05] <leahciMic> root		(hd0,2) (hd0,2)
[06:05] <leahciMic> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=26d04b45-8d09-4d7e-9879-26a8611200d4 ro root=UUID=26d04b45-8d09-4d7e-9879-26a8611200d4 ro quiet splash quiet splash
[06:05] <leahciMic> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386
[06:05] <leahciMic> savedefault
[06:05] <leahciMic> boot
[06:05] <leahciMic> it should've been (hd0,1) etc..
[06:05] <variant> etienne_: dia
[06:06] <variant> etienne_: http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
[06:06] <jek> would this link be ok for a 3.0 ghz hyperthreading intel ?     ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[06:06] <fredl> Hrmmmm after an apt-get install php5 SHOULD PHP not automatically be enabled??
[06:06] <variant> fredl: yes
[06:06] <fredl> or do I need to manually enable the module?
[06:06] <AJ--> jek : thats more than enough
[06:06] <jek> kk ty
[06:07] <leahciMic> fredl; try restarting apache...
[06:07] <fredl> leahciMic, tried that...
[06:07] <fredl> leahciMic, but apache doesn't seem to be loading the module
[06:07] <leahciMic> did u install the right version and not the command line version ?
[06:07] <fredl> I did apt-get install php5
[06:08] <fredl> the module is there in the /etc/apache2/mods-available dir...
[06:08] <leahciMic> i think it's like apache-module-php5 or something go into synaptic and search for it
[06:08] <uhmmm> fredl, thats cl stuff i believe
[06:08] <scobie> Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. ,okei what does it mean .i have amd64
[06:08] <scobie> so should i install it?
[06:08] <variant> leahciMic: what do you mean the command line version?
[06:08] <fredl> php5 is 'cl stuff' ??
[06:08] <fredl> ehr
[06:08] <fredl> really..
[06:08] <uhmmm> nono
[06:08] <uhmmm> sorry
[06:08] <fredl> ok
[06:08] <variant> leahciMic: it makes no difference if you use synaptic or apt-get to isntall software, you get the same version
[06:08] <leahciMic> yeah i'm sure the apache module is named something else... have a look
[06:09] <leahciMic> i know but apt-get u can't ctrl+F
[06:09] <uhmmm> leahciMic, exactly
[06:09] <variant> leahciMic: thats what apt-cache search is for
[06:09] <leahciMic> i wld've said apt-get... but i couldn't remember the package name
[06:09] <fredl> libapache2-mod-php5
[06:09] <variant> its 100 times faster
[06:09] <soundray> etienne_: there are several good visualization packages for ubuntu, but they tend to be geared more towards scientific applications and less towards business applications. gnuplot and R come to mind.
[06:09] <leahciMic> yeah but then i'd have to explain how to use it when he goes, WTF?
[06:09] <jek> i am setting up  a pc with one hdd and on it i am gonna put ubuntu and edubuntu for my kid how would i go forward with that? just install ubuntu first then use gparted to to shrink half the hdd too to have an unalocated partition to install edubuntu?
[06:09] <waylandbill> aptitude is nice as well.
[06:10] <variant> leahciMic: apt-cache search php
[06:10] <variant> leahciMic: apt-cache search php5
[06:10] <leahciMic> ok going to boot nasty windows again... i hope it doesn't do it again :( *fingers crossed*
[06:10] <variant> there you go :)
[06:10] <leahciMic> lol
[06:10] <variant> lol
[06:10] <soundray> leahciMic: hold on...
[06:10] <soundray> leahciMic: you should set a partition type that Windows ignores.
[06:10] <AJ--> jek: are u running a live CD??
[06:10] <progek> Just curious, can windows users have multiple work spaces like linux?
[06:11] <soundray> leahciMic: hex83 for example
[06:11] <jek> i will be
[06:11] <variant> progek: there are plugins to do that
[06:11] <leahciMic> it should ignore reiserfs paritionts shouldn't it ?
[06:11] <progek> so they can install XGL and what not?
[06:11] <uhmmm> leahciMic, yes
[06:11] <jek> using live cd for both
[06:11] <variant> leahciMic: yeah, any non windows partition
[06:11] <variant> progek: no, xgl is an xserver..
[06:11] <variant> progek: that wont run on windows
[06:11] <soundray> leahciMic: it should, but it doesn't decide that based on the filesystem, but on the partition type that is set in the partition table.
[06:11] <leahciMic> well it didn't once ... :( not going to take chances going to stop it from checking drives full stop
[06:11] <AJ--> jek: u can use gparted then partation ur drive into two linux partation.. 1 for ubuntu ang 1 for ur edebuntu
[06:11] <progek> so only linux can use say XGL+Beryl or compiz
[06:11] <leahciMic> the partition table is set to resierfs
[06:12] <soundray> leahciMic: no, it isn't
[06:12] <waylandbill> not xgl, but there are virtual desktop programs for windows.
[06:12] <variant> progek: and bsd/solaris if they have the will power to make it work
[06:12] <jek> AJ: ahhhhh ok
[06:12] <progek> I see
[06:12] <variant> progek: but not windows users, no
[06:12] <fredl> well after I installed libapache2-mod-php5, the PHP5 module is NOT enabled, I wonder why
[06:12] <jek> AJ: thank you
[06:12] <robertwoes> ok variant it is downloading with green status... but it is a huge file == will it download in the background for me?  I am on a modem.
[06:12] <leahciMic> it isn't ... you remote cfdisk'd me ?
[06:12] <AJ--> jek: u can install first ur ubuntu
[06:12] <jek> ok
[06:12] <variant> robertwoes: if you close the window and start it again the file will resume. you might want to leave it open though
[06:13] <variant> robertwoes: i dont know if you can minimise to tray or anything with azureus
[06:13] <fredl> I made a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load and only then will Apache start up with the PHP header line in the log
[06:13] <soundray> leahciMic: what's the partition type code for reiser?
[06:13] <robertwoes> cool
[06:14] <leahciMic> no idea.... i didn't check
[06:14] <AJ--> robertwoes u can just click the close button.. it will still download the file
[06:14] <variant> soundray: there is not a specific part type for reiser
[06:14] <robertwoes> thanks for all the help.
[06:14] <robertwoes> later peeps
[06:14] <robertwoes> :)
[06:14] <soundray> variant: my point exactly.
[06:14] <variant> soundray: there is 80 and 81 for linux and linux swap
[06:14] <leahciMic> windows reports the partitions as unkown...
[06:14] <variant> leahciMic: as expected
[06:14] <leahciMic> isn't rfs like 86
[06:14] <variant> leahciMic: windows is a noob
[06:14] <variant> leahciMic: no
[06:15] <soundray> variant: actually, it's 82 and 83 if you're on hex
[06:15] <AJ--> variant : lols
[06:15] <leahciMic> yes i understand variant; im just trying to understand why it once tried to check it ?
[06:15] <wolfbane_691> i need help real quick installing a program on ubuntu
[06:15] <variant> soundray: woops
[06:15] <robertwoes> variant looks like in options you can check box check for minimize to try on close
[06:15] <variant> AJ--: what you laughin at?
[06:15] <variant> robertwoes: cool
[06:16] <robertwoes> that is the default
[06:16] <wolfbane_691> its about devede
[06:16] <variant> leahciMic: no idea, wast htat during windows installation??
[06:16] <robertwoes> and you can check minimize minimizes to tray
[06:16] <fredl> I hate browser cache
[06:16] <robertwoes> but that is unchecked by default
 leahciMic: windows is a noob  <--- this line
[06:16] <soundray> leahciMic: there's your problem. If you set it to 86, Windows thinks it's a NTFS volume set.
[06:16] <fredl> can I just say that one more time here? I HATE BROWSER CACHES!
[06:16] <variant> fredl: you can turn it off
[06:16] <variant> AJ--: ah :)
[06:16] <jek> i am on my other pc that has ubuntu on it. when i reboot to ubuntu to boot up then i get to login screen, I login then right when it logs into my ubuntu desktop it boots me out of my desktop back to ubuntu login menu and i have to do this like 3 times until i get on my ubuntu desktop. is there a way to fix this?
[06:16] <fredl> variant, I know but I always forget.
[06:16] <wolfbane_691> can any 1 help real quick
[06:16] <leahciMic> its not 86 i was taking a stab at a number
[06:16] <variant> fredl: personly i like it :)
[06:16] <variant> wolfbane_691: jsut ask
[06:17] <wolfbane_691> ok can u help me
[06:17] <variant> wolfbane_691: just ask :)!
[06:17] <variant> !ask
[06:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:17] <soundray> leahciMic: well, set it to 83 and if Windows checks it again, maybe you have to file a bug report in Redmond...
[06:17] <progek> Everytime I want to play a game, say Battle for Wesnoth for example, I need to turn xgl+beryl off or the game has many transparencies. Is this pretty common for other people?
[06:17] <l0st1> I'm trying to compile something....I'm sorta of a noob....when I type "./cofigure" I get an err message....saying  " Cannot Find Phython include path"....
[06:17] <l0st1> do I have to install "Phython" or something
[06:18] <leahciMic> meh im just killing autocheck on windows... and i shall live happily ever after... =)
[06:18] <wolfbane_691> ok when i install devede it says no such file or directory
[06:18] <variant> progek: xgl is very alpha software.. dont expect it to work flawlessly. you can use xgame to get round that issue though
[06:18] <wolfbane_691> and i downloaded it
[06:18] <progek> l0st1, try installing package build-essential
[06:18] <progek> I see, thanks variant
[06:18] <variant> leahciMic: yes, install python
[06:18] <variant> leahciMic: python-dev
[06:19] <wolfbane_691> ok
[06:19] <variant> wolfbane_691: what is devede?
[06:19] <wolfbane_691> dvd burner
[06:19] <wolfbane_691> do i need to get anything
[06:19] <waylandbill> where did you download it from?
[06:20] <l0st1> I already have "build essential" installed
[06:20] <wolfbane_691> rastersoft.com
[06:20] <variant> wolfbane_691: why dont you use k3b? it owns :)
[06:20] <defrysk> ubuntu already has a dvd burner
[06:20] <wolfbane_691> hmmm
[06:20] <wolfbane_691> k3b?
[06:20] <defrysk> noutilus kan also burn dvd's
[06:20] <waylandbill> k3b rocks
[06:21] <defrysk> any burn app can actully
[06:21] <variant> wolfbane_691: seriously, k3b is outstanding software (shame its qt but hey)
[06:21] <wolfbane_691> do i have to install it
[06:21] <variant> wolfbane_691: apt-get install k3b
[06:21] <icheyne> gnomebaker?
[06:21] <wolfbane_691> ok
[06:21] <variant> icheyne: dont like it at all
[06:21] <variant> icheyne: personally :)
[06:21] <defrysk> if you dislike qt and related
[06:21] <wolfbane_691> it says command not found
[06:21] <icheyne> no prob
[06:22] <icheyne> :)
[06:22] <variant> defrysk: Im not that botherd
[06:22] <variant> wolfbane_691: as root
[06:22] <variant> wolfbane_691: sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:22] <defrysk> variant, neither am I altho qt is "ugly"
[06:22] <variant> defrysk: yeah, but k3b is not ugly :)
[06:23] <defrysk> cli of course :D
[06:23] <variant> defrysk: and i only use it to burn cd/dvd.. its not like its always ooen
[06:23] <macd> has anyone encountered this error ' http://pastie.caboo.se/18356 ' ?
[06:23] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx u guys rock
[06:23] <elvar> !nvidia
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <variant> wolfbane_691: np
[06:23] <waylandbill> k3b looks less ugly on a kde session. ;-)
[06:23] <variant> pah
[06:24] <alternative3> Hi people
[06:24] <BleSS> any gui for svn?
[06:24] <wolfbane_691> ok so when i wanna install some thing i use root?
[06:24] <robertwoes> bbl nice to see everyone again
[06:24] <kmaynard> then you've got the whole kde ugly to deal with :)
[06:24] <defrysk> macd, did you try sudo apt-get -f install ?
[06:24] <alternative3> I can't figure out how to refresh a page in Lynx. anyone?
[06:24] <macd> defrysk, yes, and tried using aptitude to resolve the problem
[06:24] <waylandbill> kmaynard, lol
[06:24] <variant> alternative3: got me stumped
[06:24] <AJ--> alternative3 just press F5
[06:24] <AJ--> alternative3 just press F5
[06:25] <variant> AJ--: cool :)
[06:25] <alternative3> DOESn't work ...
[06:25] <AJ--> <--- noob
[06:25] <wolfbane_691> and root is?
[06:25] <icheyne> variant, http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/screenshot.php?l=e
[06:25] <wolfbane_691> i am very new to this
[06:25] <defrysk> macd, I know what I would try but am not sure if its the proper thing to do
[06:25] <wolfbane_691> sry
[06:25] <variant> wolfbane_691: the superuser (think administrator on windows but more like god less like some scumbag)
[06:25] <icheyne> graveman might be worth a look
[06:25] <jk> alternative3: ctrl-r / ctrl-l
[06:25] <macd> defrysk what would you try?
[06:25] <variant> icheyne: why you show me this?
[06:26] <wolfbane_691> got cha
[06:26] <macd> doesnt really matter I can always revert to dapper.
[06:26] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove xinit
[06:26] <icheyne> because you could try graveman if you don't like gnomebaker
[06:26] <alternative3> CTRL+R :) thanks jk
[06:26] <icheyne> uses gtk2
[06:26] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx a bunch guys
[06:26] <variant> defrysk: aahha,, dont do that
[06:26] <macd> well it can be reinstalled
[06:26] <defrysk> variant, thats why I sayd not sure
[06:27] <variant> defrysk: remove the file /usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz (back it up) then rerun the command
[06:27] <etienne_> variant : just installed dia , it crapped out on me
[06:27] <macd> I did that already.
[06:27] <AJ--> sorry for that alternative3.. coz i use F5 wen i refresh a page.. but it works for me
[06:27] <defrysk> variant, deal :)
[06:27] <macd> variant, already removed it ;P same error.
[06:27] <variant> etienne_: unlucky.. sorry to hear that. you should try an alternative
[06:27] <etienne_> had to escape to a term to kill it
[06:27] <l0st1> geez what does "cannot find terminal management library readline" mean? and it has "ncurses" "term cap" "curses" in brackets
[06:27] <variant> macd: damn.. xinit is part of xorg though so removing it is not an option really
[06:28] <macd> maybee removing it then adding the package back
[06:28] <variant> Caplain: maybe
[06:28] <catalytic> ooo ahh i like the look of e17
[06:28] <macd> of course the dependencies are going to be unmet
[06:28] <variant> catalytic: yeah its very l337 looking
[06:28] <variant> macd: lol
[06:28] <dabaR> l0st1: what gave you the error?
[06:28] <alternative3> AJ--: no prob' :)
[06:28] <variant> catalytic: I ran it last year somtime.. was very nice
[06:29] <l0st1> "./configure"
[06:29] <catalytic> i like the idea of the apple doc too
[06:29] <variant> catalytic: animated panel and backgrounds/clocks was all very slick
[06:29] <der0b> etienne_: have you looked into openoffice draw?  I'm not sure if it's what you need, but may be
[06:29] <catalytic> shit its 2am
[06:29] <catalytic> cya
[06:29] <alternative3> bye
[06:29] <etienne_> der0b trying to draw a rack
[06:29] <defrysk> macd, sudo apt-get  install xorg -f ?
[06:30] <defrysk> or something
[06:30] <l0st1> I'm trying to compile something....first it gave some "Python" error so I fixed that.....and when I ran "./configure" it gave me that err message
[06:30] <dabaR> l0st1: post the error on pastebin, please.
[06:30] <defrysk> something = ?
[06:30] <etienne_> lol
[06:30] <macd> is there a way to clear the package list? as in removing the partials?
[06:31] <macd> apt-get -f install x11-common ;P
[06:31] <defrysk> yes
[06:32] <AJ--> is there any driver for cannon pixma mp150 ???
[06:32] <l0st1> ummm....what's pastebin....lol
[06:32] <defrysk> l0st1, topic
[06:32] <defrysk> !pastebin
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:32] <ATAQ> hey all, does anyone know a good nfs browser for Xubuntu?
[06:33] <jek> i am having a problem logging itno ubuntu from the ubuntu login screen... when i login into my desktop it boots me out back to the ubuntu login screen... I have to login 3 or 4 times till ubuntu lets me stay in my desktop. would anyone know why this is happening?
[06:33] <bertugolu> Hey ppl, i had an nvidia graphic card and had the glx drivers, now i changed to ati, and when i boot with ubuntu, the gdm will not start
[06:33] <withayanda> i'm confused about fonts.  i need to install fonts that will display some east asian characters.  should i use ttf or xfonts?
[06:33] <dabaR> AJ--: google with the device model and brand and add ubuntu. I got http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/ubuntu-howto.html
[06:33] <dabaR> jek: do you get an error?
[06:34] <ATAQ> bertugolu: sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <jek> dabaR: nope
[06:34] <bertugolu> .i did that
[06:34] <l0st1> so I can't paste my error message here....it's only 2 lines long....:)
[06:34] <dabaR> bertugolu: did you install the drivers for ati?
[06:34] <joeCoT> bertugolu: it's trying to load the nvidia driver. Change the driver to vesa and start up
[06:34] <ATAQ> bertugolu: what does it say?
[06:34] <bertugolu> and niot apt...dpkg
[06:34] <dabaR> !pastebin
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:34] <bertugolu> noo i didnt do drivers for ati
[06:34] <ianmacgregor> Using Evolution for the first time.. it's nice.
[06:34] <AJ--> is there any driver for cannon pixma mp150 ???
[06:34] <dabaR> !ati
[06:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:34] <macd> defrysk, sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[06:34] <macd> worked.
[06:34] <defrysk> cool
[06:34] <ATAQ> bertugolu: what does it say?
[06:34] <maverick`-> bertugolu, have you change the driveri n your xfce.conf?
[06:35] <jek> dapaR: the ubuntu desktop flashes a couple times and boots me back to ubuntu login screen
[06:35] <macd> weather or not it works after I restart X ;)
[06:35] <bertugolu> failed to statd the xorg..
[06:35] <defrysk> macd, lol
[06:35] <joeCoT> bertugolu: what's the failure message?
[06:35] <leahciMic> is it no screens found failed to load nvidia driver ?
[06:35] <ATAQ> bertugolu: Is there an xorg generic driver? if so boot with that so you can fix the prob
[06:36] <ATAQ> bertugolu: for ati i mean
[06:36] <dabaR> AJ--: I posted a link for you, http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/ubuntu-howto.html
[06:36] <macd> the generic is 'vesa'
[06:36] <bertugolu> no i didnt edit xfce.conf...though i used sudo dpkg xserver xorg
[06:36] <treeroot> Hello! I am am using Dapper on a Notebook with USB1.1. When I try attaching usb storage devices, ohci-hcd print the following message in /var/log/messages: "Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ." Can anyone help me with this?
[06:36] <bertugolu> emm i dont know
[06:36] <BleSS> how add a tool to menu? I just installing rapidsvn but it is not shown there
[06:36] <ATAQ> bertugolu: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:36] <AJ--> dabar : tnx
[06:36] <ATAQ> bertugolu: and change the part that says "nvidia" to vesa
[06:36] <ATAQ> bertugolu: then startx
[06:36] <bertugolu> ahh.vesa?
[06:36] <defrysk> use nano -w for long lines safety
[06:37] <bertugolu> i did ati
[06:37] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  ya
[06:37] <jek> hm
[06:37] <bertugolu> so i need vesa?
[06:37] <macd> pico!=nano -w
[06:37] <anilomkar> in my system i am having Windows XP and Ubuntu dual operating systems. When i am reinstalling Windows XP, Ubuntu OS is not loading. Pease help me...
[06:37] <defrysk> vesa is the safe way always works
[06:37] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  well get vesa first so you can get the ati drivers without hassle
[06:37] <el-grecco> hola
[06:37] <defrysk> any vid card has vesa
[06:37] <joeCoT> bertugolu: the open source ati driver doesn't work for really new cards. you need either vesa, or the binary ati fglrx driver
[06:37] <bertugolu> ok
[06:37] <el-grecco> alguien que hable espaol
[06:37] <macd> anilomkar, yes because the windows bootloader overwrote grub.
[06:37] <leahciMic> i've had this problem before REALLY hard to fix can't remember how... bertugolu try using the driver  'nv'
[06:37] <bertugolu> i have x1600 pro
[06:37] <ianmacgregor> !es el-grecco
[06:37] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[06:37] <anilomkar> macd, then what to do??
[06:38] <bertugolu> no drivers for that?
[06:38] <l0st1> configure: error: Could not find terminal management library for readline
[06:38] <l0st1> (either ncurses, termcap or curses).
[06:38] <ATAQ> is the fglrx driver already installed as default?
[06:38] <macd> anilomkar, boot with your ubuntu live CD and restore GRUB.
[06:38] <defrysk> ianmacgregor, lol
[06:38] <bertugolu> dunno lol!
[06:38] <defrysk> !es
[06:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:38] <l0st1> that's the error message...
[06:38] <anilomkar> macd, i am sorry, i am new to linux how to restore the grub.
[06:38] <macd> !grub
[06:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> !recover > anilomkar
[06:39] <macd> see that second link?
[06:39] <macd> recovering grub after installing windows?
[06:39] <bertugolu> so i try to boot with vesa?
[06:39] <l0st1> are those libraries that I need to install?
[06:39] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  there is but it would be handier to start the xserver and fix the prob using vesa rather than mess around in terminal
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> !es > ianmacgregor
[06:39] <anilomkar> macd, thank you...
[06:39] <macd> anilomkar, np np
[06:39] <bertugolu> listen i will try to boot...if i boot i will talk to you again and 10x mate
[06:39] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  ya in vesa, do you no what to do
[06:39] <dabaR> l0st1: you can try the libncurses-dev, or something like that.
[06:39] <joeCoT> bertugolu: no reason to reboot
[06:40] <joeCoT> bertugolu: just do startx
[06:40] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  just reconfigure and restartx
[06:40] <Rope> Im trying to install ubuntu-lite
[06:40] <Rope> And it says EE No devices detected
[06:40] <Rope> No secreens found... what could that be?
[06:40] <dabaR> l0st1: libncurses5 is the package.
[06:40] <highvoltage> Rope: I think ubuntu-lite uses its own installer
[06:40] <Rope> Yes.. but it wont start x
[06:40] <highvoltage> Rope: imho, I would suggest you rather try Xubuntu if your computer can handle it
[06:40] <el-grecco> !es
[06:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:41] <shuan> anyone know why when i try to install sun java 5 from add applications it says its not available in any software channel ?
[06:41] <Rope> highvoltage im afraid it cant =(
[06:41] <ATAQ> Can anyone please tell me a good network broswer, I use XFCE
[06:41] <defrysk> shuan, sun-java5-bin
[06:41] <l0st1> now it says it can't find the "readline Library"
[06:42] <shuan> defrysk: yes
[06:42] <macd> ATAQ sorry no help here I use nautilus/gnome
[06:42] <highvoltage> ATAQ: you could try linneighbourhood
[06:42] <Rope> so ??
[06:42] <macd> l0st1, install the libreadline package
[06:42] <sureshot> whay does dosbox not run when i click on it.. in gnome
[06:42] <ATAQ> highvoltage: I'll check it out thanks m8
[06:43] <Rope> Ok.. never mind
[06:43] <Rope> Thanks
[06:43] <l0st1> it can't find the package
[06:43] <macd> apt-cache search libreadline
[06:43] <jorgp> anyone know a decent gnome based cd label, cd case creator?
[06:43] <macd> then install the package it gives you.
[06:43] <BleSS> how add a tool to menu? I just installing rapidsvn but it is not shown there
[06:43] <dabaR> libreadline5
[06:44] <dabaR> jorgp: glabels
[06:44] <AbortD> how do i access my running processes?
[06:44] <dabaR> AbortD: ps aux will list them
[06:44] <l0st1> it says it's the newest package
[06:44] <AbortD> wth is ps aux?
[06:44] <ReverseBlade> AbortD, man ps
[06:44] <l0st1> **version
[06:44] <dabaR> BleSS: the gnome Applications menu? There is a menu editor in system tools
[06:44] <jorgp> dabaR, thanks
[06:44] <Gumby600m> When sound is enabled in Firefox (i.e. /etc/firefox/firefoxrc has FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"), and a sound is played... my computer freezes.  Only way to get back to normal is to hard-reboot the machine.  Now it's starting to freeze while rhytmbox is playing.  What do I do to get soudn working?
[06:44] <AbortD> man ps?
[06:44] <dabaR> AbortD: it is a command for the terminal
[06:44] <AbortD> no i want it with the gui
[06:45] <macd> Gumby600m, stop using AOSS
[06:45] <dabaR> l0st1: libreadline5-dev, then
[06:45] <ReverseBlade> AbortD, go the console and write "man ps"
[06:45] <macd> use OSS instead
[06:45] <BleSS> dabaR, Alacarte menu editor?
[06:45] <AbortD> i rather know the hotkey....
[06:45] <dabaR> AbortD: System monitor?
[06:45] <Yggdrasil> can somone tell me what this is ? yggdrasil@Whore1:~$ sudo reboot
[06:45] <keithhhh> anyone play mov files in ubuntu?
[06:45] <Yggdrasil> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 18 12:45:13 2006
[06:45] <shuan> anyone know why when i try to install sun java 5 from add applications it says its not available in any software channel ?
[06:45] <Gumby600m> macd: what are the other options?
[06:45] <dabaR> BleSS: yes
[06:45] <johso> hiya guys.
[06:45] <AbortD> yes dabar
[06:45] <dabaR> Yggdrasil: what is the time on your system? date
[06:45] <macd> OSS= open sound system  AOSS = also open sound system
[06:45] <macd> alsa*
[06:46] <macd> so just use OSS
[06:46] <keithhhh> does anyone watch mov files in ubuntu?
[06:46] <progek> I just installed a nice looking vista theme for Beryl but I would also like to change the gnome panels. Are there any themes to change the way the panels look?
[06:46] <Yggdrasil> Wed Oct 18 10:46:00 MDT 2006
[06:46] <defrysk> yes
[06:46] <ReverseBlade> keitheis, .mov files or movie files ?
[06:46] <johso> I want to reinstall Ubuntu, but my cd drive is broken. I don't have a floppy, and my bios doesn't support booting from a flash disk. what are my options? can grub boot from a flash disk, and if it can, how do I do it?
[06:46] <defrysk> keithhhh, sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:46] <keithhhh> ReverseBlade: .mov
[06:46] <dabaR> AbortD: there is an app in the menu for that. System>admin>System Monitor
[06:46] <variant> Yggdrasil: its called time drift.. you have set your clock which has put the time setting in the past. you will have to either wait till the old time passes again or set your clock more slowy with ntp
[06:46] <keithhhh> defrysk: I tried in VLC but I cant hear anything
[06:47] <defrysk> vlc plays anything
[06:47] <AbortD> im looking for the hotkey...
[06:47] <keithhhh> defrysk: ya vlc rocks
[06:47] <defrysk> keithhhh, not sure about that bit
[06:47] <variant> johso: take out the disk and install it from annother machine
[06:47] <ReverseBlade> AbortD, if you install automatix ,it provides you with the ctrl alt del option
[06:47] <britt> hey how do i clear out if's cahce of whatever it stores
[06:47] <Yggdrasil> variant i cant install ntp .. it tells me that same message
[06:47] <britt> sometimes I cant connect to a wireless AP even after everything else is setup
[06:47] <AbortD> you people make me want to kill my self
[06:47] <defrysk> keithhhh, try another .mov and find out if its a nuked file
[06:47] <variant> Yggdrasil: lol, unlucky. set your time to the time that it warns you about and then isntall ntp
[06:47] <ax> is it okay to remove ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal?
[06:47] <britt> wont grab a IP from the DHCP server
[06:47] <Yggdrasil> variant how do i set time ?
[06:48] <variant> AbortD: whats the problem?
[06:48] <ax> i want to get rid of vim in place of a locally compiled version
[06:48] <AbortD> plain and simple
[06:48] <Gumby600m> in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc, FIREFOX_DSP="oss"... now I have NO sound for my web browser....
[06:48] <AbortD> i want the hotkey for system monitor
[06:48] <Alcides> #spanish
[06:48] <variant> Yggdrasil: use the date commmand or in system preferences which is probably a lot simpler
[06:48] <johso> variant: It's a really bad idea, since it will install a lot of hardware that I will slow my system, but the real problem is that I have a laptop, thus I can't put the harddisk in another machine...
[06:48] <macd> ax, then copy your binary to the the current vi binary
[06:48] <ReverseBlade> AbortD, install automatix , plain and simple :)
[06:48] <AbortD> its ctrl alt something
[06:48] <bertugolu> hey i am back
[06:48] <Alcides> Para hablar en espaol
[06:48] <Yggdrasil> hah yea ok.. its a keyboardless.. monitorless box .. console only
[06:48] <dabaR> ax: is it OK...they are metapackages, so nothing should be broken afterwards. Just make sure they do not remove all their dependencies along with them.
[06:48] <AbortD> IT WAS INSTALLED WITH UBUNTU THE HOTKEY CAME ON THIS CRAP
[06:48] <bertugolu> about the ati drivers stuff
[06:48] <shuan> anyone know why when i try to install sun java 5 from add applications it says its not available in any software channel ?
[06:48] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: Please do not recommend automatix.. it isn't supported configuration
[06:49] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, I disagree
[06:49] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, it works well
[06:49] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: Talk to the ops, then
[06:49] <britt> :agreed:
[06:49] <variant> johso: you can do a network isntall from an existing installation or from annother system over ssh
[06:49] <Alcides> Alguien habla espaol
[06:49] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, why ?
[06:49] <bertugolu> can someone tell me how can i install ati drivers
[06:49] <Yggdrasil> variant thanks...
[06:49] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  hey you in?
[06:49] <l0st1> lol....ahh geez...now an error 'cannot find imlib2.....
[06:49] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  hey you in?
[06:49] <macd> shuan, yes add the universe repo to your sources.list (covered on the forums)
[06:49] <bertugolu> yeah
[06:49] <variant> ianmacgregor: he has been arguing about it all day
[06:49] <bertugolu> i am with ubuntu...the hz is very bad
[06:49] <variant> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:49] <ianmacgregor> variant: Then someone needs to kick him
[06:49] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  did vesa work ya
[06:49] <variant> bertugolu: see that?
[06:49] <bertugolu> vesa worked
[06:49] <bertugolu> XD
[06:49] <Xac> im looking for a howto for installing ist on a winxp laptop
[06:50] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, why ?
[06:50] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:50] <bertugolu> but i need drivers bcos i cant stay like this
[06:50] <dabaR> AbortD: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41174
[06:50] <ReverseBlade> iamtheobject, why mentioning about automatix is a bad thing
[06:50] <david> hi
[06:50] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  and you can reconfigure refresh rate while you get the proper drivers
[06:50] <Gumby600m> macd:  Firefox has no sound with "oss" instead of "aoss"... and I cant find anything like an "oss" package in synaptic.  What am I missing?
[06:50] <dabaR> l0st1: well, the dependencies have to be there in order to compile.
[06:50] <johso> variant: could you be so kind and elaborate on that, or maybe point me to a guide?
[06:51] <dabaR> Use aptitude search then the lib that is missing, and install its -dev package, and then try again.
[06:51] <macd> Gumby600m, goto system -> preferences -> sound
[06:51] <macd> do you see oss in the dropdown?
[06:51] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, , why mentioning about automatix is a bad thing
[06:51] <dabaR> l0st1: libimlib2-dev is the one you need now.
[06:51] <macd> under the default sound card?
[06:52] <Gumby600m> macd: all I see is: "Intel 82801db-ich4"
[06:52] <AbortD> i use kde
[06:52] <AbortD> dabar
[06:52] <joeCoT> Xac: there aren't any how-tos for generl laptops. there are how-tos and reviews for specific one shttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[06:52] <dabaR> !automatix > ReverseBlade
[06:52] <macd> Gumby600m, then in that case check the box that has ESD at the top and tell firefox to use ESD
[06:52] <ReverseBlade> AbortD, what's your problem
[06:52] <AbortD> nothing
[06:52] <AbortD> im done
[06:52] <ReverseBlade> dabaR, so ?
[06:52] <l0st1> ah forgot the "lib" part....
[06:52] <AbortD> next person that gives me a stupid answer im gonna go insane
[06:53] <l0st1> thx it's working now...
[06:53] <macd> automatix is like mixing and matching your repo lists, not the best idea in the world.
[06:53] <dabaR> l0st1: $20
[06:53] <l0st1> do you take cheque?
[06:53] <l0st1> lol
[06:53] <sureshot> AbortD man if you are like me dont pack for a heavy trip because it is not a long one LOLOL just teasing
[06:53] <ks1> send in a zip file.
[06:53] <ReverseBlade> macd, it works perfect
[06:53] <macd> only if it says cheque not check on it cause they dont spell it as such here ;P
[06:54] <macd> ReverseBlade, if is was perfect then it would be in universe.
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <kkathman> AbortD:   ctrl+esc
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <-- andre has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[06:54] <ks1> macd: appear foreign one day
[06:54] <Jhonny1009> hello all. If I get kopete, can I run it in gnome?
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <AbortD> HOLY MOSES SOMEONE FINALLY GAVE ME A HUMAN RESPONSE
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <AbortD> kkathman: can i ask you a question
[06:54] <ReverseBlade> macd, the reason it is not in universe , because it uses non free software
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <kkathman> heh
[06:54] <ks1> Jhonny1009: yes
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <AbortD> ?
[06:54] <variant> johso: sorry, i was looking for a list of install methods but cant find it
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <-- DeadSouL has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
[06:54] <ReverseBlade> macd, and that's the only reason
[06:54] <macd> contrib non-free
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <Jucato> ???
[06:54] <Jhonny1009> ks1 thanks
[06:54] <macd> .
[06:54] <variant> there are about 20 different ways to do it
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <kkathman> well you can ask :)
[06:54] <ks1> Jhonny1009: you need some kde libs and such but it will work in gnome
[06:54] <AbortD> [12:53]  <-- whegge_ has left this server (Connection timed out).
[06:55] <ianmacgregor> AbortD: Please stop
[06:55] <AbortD> [12:53]  <AbortD> what is a hotkey?
[06:55] <AbortD> [12:53]  <kkathman> shortcut
[06:55] <AbortD> [12:53]  <AbortD> is it ps aux or is it ctrl esc?
[06:55] <AbortD> [12:53]  <hades> BonBonTheJon: i have problems with wifi on 2 computers as I told You before laptopm and a station one ...
[06:55] <AbortD> [12:54]  <Jucato> keyboard shortcut
[06:55] <Jhonny1009> ks1, so I can mark it for instalation and it will work after?
[06:55] <johso> variant: couldn't find anything myself, but thanks for trying.
[06:55] <ks1> Jhonny1009: yes
[06:55] <macd> automatix doesnt contain any non-free software it just installs it, thus its not a problem if they wanted it in there it would be in there.
[06:55] <Jhonny1009> thx
[06:55] <Xac_> how can i change the partition tabel without any loss of data
[06:55] <joeCoT> bbiab
[06:55] <ReverseBlade> macd, what ?
[06:56] <macd> what didnt you understand?
[06:56] <dabaR> Xac_: don't mess with the partitions that have data on them
[06:56] <variant> Xac_: carefully :)
[06:56] <ReverseBlade> macd, you ask anyone even canonical people that the reason is it installs non free software
[06:56] <variant> Xac_: parted
[06:56] <macd> legaly they can put it in there.
[06:56] <macd> apt installs non free software too
[06:56] <dabaR> Xac_: back up all data to another medium, and then return the data after changing the partition table
[06:56] <ReverseBlade> macd, legally they can't
[06:56] <macd> as does dpkg
[06:56] <variant> ReverseBlade: ffs, will you PLEASE take your arguments else where, youare like a stuck record
[06:56] <macd> but you dont see anyone not including those.
[06:57] <ianmacgregor> Can we take the automatix talk to #automatix please? This is an Ubuntu support channel.
[06:57] <macd> automatix is a tool for isntalling non-free software is doesnt contain non-free software.
[06:57] <don-o> i swtiched apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. apt-get update. apt-get dist-upgrade. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:57] <ReverseBlade> variant, yeah sorry about that
[06:57] <macd> better yet, I'll just stop talking about it ;)
[06:57] <don-o>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/Xsession.5.gz', which is also in package xinit
[06:57] <pawman> hi there
[06:57] <Xac_> is there no free tool like partition magic
[06:57] <don-o> is there a workaround for this failed upgrade to edgy?
[06:57] <macd> don-o, heh I just had that problem
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Xac_: gparted
[06:57] <gnomefreak> macd: it does contain non-free software
[06:57] <macd> use dpkg -i --force-all
[06:57] <AJ--> i dont think partation magic will help
[06:57] <waylandbill> Xac_, gparted live-cd
[06:58] <don-o> macd: ha. i tried removing the man page but it didnt help.
[06:58] <don-o> macd: cool i'll try that.
[06:58] <macd> then put the the package name after the force option.
[06:58] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  have you installed the nvidia driver?
[06:58] <Xac_> the live cd doesn't boot with apic support :(
[06:58] <macd> gnomefreak, automatix doesnt, it facilitates the isntall of non-free software.
[06:58] <robertwoes> I am downloading the ubuntu disk, but azureus says that my ratio is bad and it is red.... is this going to affect the download?
[06:59] <variant> robertwoes: just upload as much as you download and your sorted
[06:59] <gnomefreak> macd: it uses the PLF repo to install non-free apps like mp3 codecs
[06:59] <variant> robertwoes: it takes a while to get a good ratio but dont worry about it in the mean time
[06:59] <macd> so how exactly would automatix "contain" non-free
[07:00] <macd> its a tool to facilitate installation of non-free software.
[07:00] <gnomefreak> and btw if your gonna suggest bad options like --fore make sure its the right one its --force-overwrite
[07:00] <nbjayme> hello people.  i have a problem regarding creation of pal-VCD  ... i have followed this guide http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD.  the CD will play on the VCD player but when i try on my computer totem says "There is no plugin to handle the location of this movie".  what does that mean?
[07:00] <bertugolu> helo
[07:00] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  hey, you getting there?
[07:00] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my comp doesn't connect to the internet
[07:00] <robertwoes> will it automatically upload or do i need to tell it to?
[07:00] <macd> gnomefreak, I had the same issue this morning and the fix suggested works fine.
[07:00] <bertugolu> emm i didnt install nvidia drivers, bcos i have ait
[07:00] <bertugolu> i am using the ubuntu webite
[07:00] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, automatix
[07:00] <bertugolu> hope it works
[07:00] <pawman> Does anyone know a good program to run over a LAN to chat and use whiteboard that does not go over the internet or though this could be an external option
[07:00] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, just kidding:) can you ping your router ?
[07:00] <dmglouis> reverseblade:whats automatix
[07:00] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  I dont know the ati well. give me a link to the site you on and I see ca i help ya
[07:01] <dmglouis> reverseblade: no
[07:01] <roshan_s> don-o: Please file a bug against the xorg package containing the error message.
[07:01] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, never mind on that. do you have a router in deed ?
[07:01] <bertugolu> no no i am going fine now
[07:01] <dmglouis> reverseblade: yea its connected via ehternet to router
[07:01] <bertugolu> lets hope it work, 100000x very much
[07:01] <don-o> roshan_s: oh man, make macd do it! kidding. i'll file the bug as soon as i find the url for bug filing.
[07:01] <ATAQ> bertugolu:  are you running the fglrx or vesa
[07:01] <ATAQ> ?
[07:01] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, type sudo ifconfig and see your ip if you get it
[07:01] <gnomefreak> 1st --forece-anything should not be used nor should not be suggested for people to use. --force-all can force something else that fifnt error yet and cause major breakage, --force-overwrite only overwrites the one .deb that you tell it to.
[07:02] <macd> I already filed the bug.
[07:02] <roshan_s> don-o: I'm checking if a duplicate bug has already been filed.
[07:02] <macd> gnomefreak, I didnt know that, kthx for clarification
[07:02] <variant> gnomefreak: it does not use --force
[07:02] <dmglouis> reverseblade: yea theres an inet address
[07:02] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, and what is it ?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> variant: what doesnt use force?
[07:02] <variant> gnomefreak: automatix
[07:02] <dmglouis> reverseblade: its 192.168.2.132
[07:02] <gnomefreak> variant: we are talking about the --force-all command
[07:02] <variant> gnomefreak: ok
[07:02] <gnomefreak> variant: not automatix
[07:03] <variant> gnomefreak: i see :), forgive me :)
[07:03] <macd> one would assume when you specify a deb then --force-all switch would just use all the force options to install that package
[07:03] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, did you set yourself or automatic ?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> macd: yes
[07:03] <macd> then how was what I told him wrong?
[07:03] <dmglouis> reverseblade: myself, i put in the dns nameservers
[07:03] <macd> I said --force-all packagenamehere
[07:03] <dmglouis> reverseblade: buts its dchp
[07:03] <dabaR> macd: not wrong, just unsafe.
[07:03] <gnomefreak> /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb  << example
[07:03] <macd> yeah well running linux isnt safe ;)
[07:03] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, did you set the 192. ip manually ?
[07:04] <dmglouis> reverseblade: nope
[07:04] <macd> especialy if your trying to upgrade to a beta release
[07:04] <dabaR> macd: if you use the --force-overwrite only that package gets forced. otherwise you could force otehr changes.
[07:04] <ATAQ> hey linneighborhood dont really wotk, If samba is easier than NFS,  what samba client should I use, I am on XFCE
[07:04] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, what is your routers ip  ?
[07:04] <dmglouis> reverseblade: each time i restart the computer it gets assigned that IP
[07:04] <dmglouis> reverseblade: routers is 192.168.2.1
[07:04] <macd> dabaR, thanks for the 2nd clarification ;)
[07:04] <don-o> im getting a lot of "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:" warnings during the dist-upgrade
[07:04] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, and you ping it what you get ?
[07:04] <macd> don-o that happens.
[07:04] <dmglouis> reverseblade: however, if i restart networking, i lose the IP
[07:05] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, its okay
[07:05] <designdream> i feel that i broke things by sudo passwd
[07:05] <macd> dabaR, me too, ever since I threw qwerty out
[07:05] <Jhonny1009> I downloaded the xgl package via synaptic, how do I start it?
[07:05] <don-o> dabaR: if you like typing, you'll like typing on a dvorak keyboard even more!
[07:05] <dmglouis> reverseblade: i get destination host unreachable
[07:05] <ATAQ> type xgl! lol
[07:05] <macd> ohh snap don-o use dvorak too ?
[07:05] <variant> designdream: yeah, there should be no need to set a root password
[07:05] <designdream> is there a way to remove my root password? certain System menus in gnome are failing.. i also dont have sound
[07:05] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, is there any other machine in your network that you can ping ?
[07:05] <don-o> macd: dvorak is the r0x0rz.
[07:05] <designdream> variant: well how do i undo
[07:05] <dmglouis> reverseblade: yea, 2 others
[07:05] <designdream> variant: i was not aware of sudo -i
[07:05] <macd> designdream, root password and those issues have nothing in common
[07:05] <dmglouis> reverseblade: i mean no
[07:05] <dabaR> !root
[07:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:05] <Jhonny1009> ATAQ type xgl where?
[07:05] <variant> designdream: dunno, there is a command to undo it but i dont recall exactly what it is
[07:06] <dmglouis> reverseblade: the 2 others can ping the router
[07:06] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, but you can't ping them  right ?
[07:06] <dmglouis> reverseblade: no
[07:06] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, strange
[07:06] <dmglouis> reverseblade: well the 2 others are windows
[07:06] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, shouldn't matter
[07:06] <designdream> macd: alright... i assumed it did because i now have a password prompted upon sudo'n any command
[07:06] <nbjayme> would there be a problem for linux on pal-vcd format?  what's a good burning option to make it play under linux and the VCD player?
[07:06] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, if your computer gets and ip from the router than there should be no problem
[07:06] <dabaR> dmglouis: compile all your info into 1-3 sentences, so that when someone new tries to help you they do not have to ask all the questions you already know the answers to.
[07:07] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, note that windows default blocks ping request
[07:07] <macd> designdream, again you didnt break anything, the problems your experiencing have nothing todo with the root password.
[07:07] <gnomefreak> variant: designdream check !sudo there is a section on changing su back to sudo
[07:07] <Jhonny1009> please, how do I start xgl on ubuntu?
[07:07] <dmglouis> reverseblade: it only gets the IP after restart, if i try changing anything and then restarting it loses the IP and doesnt get one
[07:07] <macd> if you set your root password and want to be root type "su"
[07:07] <cbx33> Jhonny1009, are you on edgy or dapper?
[07:07] <macd> dmglouis, does ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 help?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> designdream: are they the ones that need "root"
[07:07] <don-o> NOPASSWD: is my favorite part of sudo
[07:07] <dmglouis> reverseblade: i mean restarting the comp works, restarting the netwrok doesn't
[07:08] <dmglouis> reverseblade: let me try
[07:08] <Jhonny1009> cbx33, I don't know
[07:08] <stephans> how do you delete lots of files??????????
[07:08] <designdream> macd: 'system' 'time and date' tells me 'you are not allowed to access the system configuration'
[07:08] <crimsun> Jhonny1009: lsb_release -r
[07:08] <gnomefreak> stephans: one at a time carefully
[07:08] <dabaR> stephans: that depends on which files you want to delete
[07:08] <variant> designdream: use suod
[07:08] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, that's normal behaviour
[07:08] <brutopia> stephans: install windows
[07:08] <deadkenny> Hi, anyone know how to set quotas on virtual users in VSFTPD?
[07:08] <macd> designdream, a window prompting you for sudo does not pop up?
[07:08] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, how many interfaces do you have ?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> designdream: yes that would be because of enabling su
[07:08] <stephans> i get bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[07:08] <designdream> macd: no
[07:08] <macd> then you need to revert back to sudo.
[07:08] <dmglouis> reverseblade: just this eth0
[07:09] <Jhonny1009> crimsun, I have 6.06
[07:09] <gnomefreak> designdream: read teh link ubotu gave you above for !root it tells you how to set it back
[07:09] <designdream> gnomefreak: thanks...
[07:09] <stephans> there are over 10 000 files in a folder... i need to delete most of them
[07:09] <crimsun> Jhonny1009: so, dapper.
[07:09] <dmglouis> reverseblade: and the networks uneachable if i try pinging now
[07:09] <dmglouis> reverseblade: *unreachable
[07:09] <don-o> stephans: how are you specifying which to delete?
[07:09] <designdream> !sudo
[07:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:09] <ReverseBlade> windows blocks the ping
[07:09] <stephans> I would have thought that the cli would be the easises...
[07:09] <Jhonny1009> how do I run xgl?
[07:10] <dmglouis> reverseblade: how do i let in the ping then?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> macd: i dont know what makes the difference but some people have issues running anything that normally needs sudo when they enable root (some people not all)
[07:10] <stephans> rm rec*
[07:10] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, but if windows could ping the router ,  your *nix machine should do as well
[07:10] <stephans> don-o: rm rec*
[07:10] <don-o> stephans: find . -name rec\* -exec rm {} \;
[07:10] <don-o> stephans: thats one way to do it. note it will search into subdirectories.
[07:10] <Jhonny1009> another question: how can I set the resolution of the login screen?
[07:10] <stephans> don-o: could you pls explain what that means???
[07:10] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, there is a setting in the control panel of windows , something like a firewall,  you can adjust it or turn the firewall temporarily
[07:10] <nbjayme> is there a way to have a  vcd in ogg format?
[07:10] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: It's best, then, to just not enable root. I have been on Ubuntu since Hoary and have never needed to enable the root account :)
[07:11] <don-o> stephans: man find will explain it.
[07:11] <dmglouis> reverseblade: okay let me try
[07:11] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: correct
[07:12] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, what do you get when route -e -n ?
[07:12] <dado> felipe: get out
[07:12] <stephans> don-o: could you do it with a for loop?
[07:12] <felipe> I saw it first!
[07:13] <dado> did not
[07:13] <don-o> stephans: for filename in *; do echo $filename; done
[07:13] <don-o> stephans: replace * with rec* and echo with rm
[07:13] <dado> felipe is touching me
[07:13] <leahciMic> omg omg i just shat my pants ... afk
[07:13] <dmglouis> lol
[07:14] <don-o> william SHATner
[07:14] <stephans> don-o: ok that is the equivalent of 'for /f %i in ('dir /b rec*.*') do del %i'
[07:14] <stephans> in windows?
[07:14] <raintheory> hello all
[07:15] <don-o> stephans: good god i dont know! DOS batch files?! :)
[07:15] <dmglouis> whenever I restart networking, i get a message saying No DHCPOFFERS received, whats the problem?
[07:15] <MarcN> dmglouis: no dhcp server answered your request
[07:15] <don-o> stephans: i didnt even know DOS was capable of such a construct.
[07:15] <Jhonny1009> can anyone tell me how I can change the resolution of the login screen?
[07:15] <stephans> don-o: NT shell scripting... lots of similarities...
[07:16] <leahciMic> except nt shell scripting sucks...
[07:16] <don-o> stephans: i see.
[07:16] <dmglouis> MarcN: but my router works, thats how im connected on this computer
[07:16] <MarcN> stephans: maybe something like       find . -iname 'rec*' -printf "rm %p\n"  then pipe to   sh    (don't just cut-n-paste it)
[07:17] <stephans> MarcN: that look bizarre...
[07:17] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, route -e -n
[07:17] <MarcN> dmglouis: run out of dhcp addresses?
[07:17] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, netstat -r
[07:17] <raintheory> sheesh
[07:17] <dmglouis> marcn: prolly not only 3 comps
[07:17] <zaida> hholllllaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:18] <don-o> well its been a hoot. thanks all ubuntuians!
[07:18] <dmglouis> they both come up blank
[07:18] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, blank ?
[07:18] <dabaR> new windows scripting languagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell
[07:18] <jek> is there log file somewhere on ubuntu about the bootup if there is any problem?
[07:18] <stephans> leachiMic: that sucky scripting saved my ass lots of times...
[07:18] <dmglouis> only the headings come
[07:18] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, and you have an IP now ?
[07:18] <raintheory> still having RDP/VNC issues...     I can connect to our G5 running OSX Tiger, but I can't connect to my Dapper laptop downstairs...
[07:18] <dmglouis> reverseblade: no IP
[07:19] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, you told me you got an IP ?
[07:19] <dmglouis> reverseblade: i did get one, but after I did ifdown eth0... i lost it
[07:19] <raintheory> i get "connection refused"   ....    any ideas what I should check on the Dapper install I'm trying to connect to?
[07:20] <zyvolution> Hello
[07:20] <dmglouis> reverseblade: only way to get an IP now is to restart the whole comp
[07:20] <rambo3> did ip start with 17X. ?
[07:20] <dmglouis> IP started with 192.
[07:20] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, what's in your /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[07:20] <zyvolution> I am downloading the iso of ubuntu right now but do i have to burn it? or can i run it from windows xp?
[07:20] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, what happens now if you "sudo ifup eth0"
[07:21] <waylandbill> zyvolution, you need to burn it and then boot from it
[07:21] <zyvolution> k
[07:21] <ReverseBlade> zyvolution, you have to burn it
[07:21] <raintheory> zyvolution: burn it and boot with it...   is it the livecd?
[07:21] <zyvolution> thx
[07:21] <ReverseBlade> lol
[07:21] <zyvolution> i just downloaded the netherlands iso thingie
[07:21] <rambo3> dmglouis, i'dd rather use  sudo dhclient eth0
[07:21] <dmglouis> reverseblade: the interfaces file has auto lo and auto eth0 and eth0 is shcp
[07:21] <zyvolution> But does runescape run under linux? :P
[07:21] <dmglouis> reverseblade: *dhcp
[07:21] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, do as rambo3 said
[07:22] <waylandbill> zyvolution, if you install java it does.
[07:22] <zyvolution> k
[07:22] <zyvolution> i am going to like linux way more than that crappy winxp
[07:22] <MarcN> zyvolution: my kids play runescape.com with a linux desktop.  Now they want SecondLife, but have problems with unreadable fonts
[07:22] <dmglouis> reverseblade: what did rambo say?
[07:22] <zyvolution> strange
[07:22] <dmglouis> oh ok n/m
[07:23] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, sudo dhclient eht0
[07:23] <sureshot> zyvolution i do as well and just remember when you run linux your information stay your own LOLOL
[07:23] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, eth0
[07:23] <zyvolution> 5 hours ago i downloaded the winxp updates then my pc crashed :(
[07:23] <kmaynard> MarcN, winde or cedega?
[07:23] <kmaynard> wine
[07:23] <MarcN> kmaynard: native linux port
[07:23] <kmaynard> o rly?
[07:23] <kmaynard> nice
[07:23] <dmglouis> reverseblade: yup same message, no DHCPOFFERS
[07:23] <kmaynard> i dont game, so.... :)
[07:23] <sureshot> zyvolution do you have a registered copy of all ms stuff on your system
[07:24] <zyvolution> yes
[07:24] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, what does it say exactly ?
[07:24] <zyvolution> i have all original xp software
[07:24] <administrator__> i am unable to mount an NFS share even locallly -- followed the NFSHowto to no avail
[07:24] <dmglouis> reverseblade: No DHCPOFFERS received
[07:24] <dmglouis> reverseblade: No working leases in persisten database - sleeping
[07:24] <sureshot> zyvolution if not ms will do somthing to shut down your computer or disable windows ... google this topic and see for your self
[07:25] <ReverseBlade> ReverseBlade, alright but when you reboot you get an IP ?
[07:25] <rambo3> dmglouis, whats your gw ?
[07:25] <dmglouis> reverseblade: yup
[07:25] <dmglouis> rambo3: gw?
[07:25] <rambo3> 192,168.X,0
[07:25] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, router
[07:25] <ReverseBlade> X = 2
[07:25] <dmglouis> reverseblade: 192.168.2.1
[07:25] <daren> I am trying to compile a package that requires mono.  I installed mono and gtk-sharp2 with synaptic, but then when I to a "./configure" I get the error "No package 'mono' found".  What am I missing?
[07:25] <rambo3> ip of router in local network
[07:25] <waylandbill> sureshot, WGA ... good reason to give ms the boot. :-D
[07:25] <zyvolution> ms is not that bad :D because i am a xbox360 user to
[07:26] <rambo3> dmglouis did you do this ,  : sudo route add default gw  192.168.2.1
[07:26] <waylandbill> isn't the xbox farmed out and just sold under the ms name?
[07:26] <ReverseBlade> daren, type mono in console
[07:26] <sureshot> zyvolution i use windows only for games and i am trying to get that taked care of LOLOLOL
[07:26] <bogo> hi
[07:26] <J_P> hi all
[07:26] <zyvolution> yeah
[07:26] <zyvolution> i used windows for gaming to
[07:26] <zyvolution> but my favo game is for linux to : doom3
[07:26] <dmglouis> reverseblade: network is unreachable
[07:27] <daren> ReverseBlade, it works, I get the help output
[07:27] <ReverseBlade> rambo3, he can't even ping it
[07:27] <bogo> any one here who could help me out with nvidia geforce 7900gt 2 crt monitorz output?
[07:27] <dmglouis> reverseblade: let me restart
[07:27] <zyvolution> whats the problem?
[07:27] <zyvolution> i have a nvidia geforce to
[07:27] <raintheory> any suggestions on this VNC situation?   I get "vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection Refused Unable to connect to VNC Server"
[07:27] <administrator__> anyone help with NFS mounting?
[07:27] <sureshot> ReverseBlade not been watching but it sounds like his card is not set up correctly
[07:27] <bogo> my problem?
[07:27] <administrator__> i think my NFS config is messed up
[07:27] <daren> mono --version: Mono JIT compiler version 1.1.13.6, (C) 2002-2005 Novell, Inc and Contributors.
[07:27] <MarcN> raintheory: vncserver not running?
[07:27] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, I thought the same, but he claims, he receives an IP after rebooting
[07:28] <raintheory> nah its running, i just set it up and double-checked it
[07:28] <administrator__> i followed this => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#head-fc5f56ca8b26ee3d8b0e11291f6fe9df8b59a84d
[07:28] <rambo3> dmglouis, what does : dmesg |grep eth0 say
[07:28] <ReverseBlade> daren, what application is this ?
[07:28] <dmglouis> rambo3: let me check after restart
[07:28] <daren> it's a plugin for Banshee
[07:28] <dmglouis> rambo3: another 30 secs or so
[07:28] <daren> banshee-showtrackonchange
[07:28] <ReverseBlade> administrator_, I have read and write to my windows partition
[07:28] <raintheory> could iptables be blocking it somehow?
[07:28] <dmglouis> rambo3: what can I say, really old dell :)
[07:28] <bmud_> Greetings, all.
[07:28] <sureshot> ReverseBlade i have see things like this happen what is the sub net mask of what he gets is it 255.255.0.0 if so it is not set up correctly or the routor is not as well
[07:29] <dmglouis> i should check the subnet?
[07:29] <rambo3> np, i have intels ethernet card  that linux kernel people wont let work , in windows it works even if it  somewhat bad eeprom
[07:29] <daren> ReverseBlade: http://den-4.com/node/13
[07:29] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, I think there's a conflict in his story that he is not even aware of
[07:29] <Hybrid-Lord> Hey everyone
[07:30] <Hybrid-Lord> New Ubuntu user here..
[07:30] <dmglouis> rambo3: i did the grep thing and eth0 is Davicom something
[07:30] <bmud_> Coudl someone help me with XviD?
[07:30] <sureshot> ReverseBlade that may be so take him back to the beginning have him hard reset his router and then reconfigure it then see what happens
[07:30] <rambo3> dmglouis, just check for errors
[07:30] <raintheory> Hybrid-Lord: Hello
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> Welcome Hybrid-Lord
[07:30] <Hybrid-Lord> Hey hey!
[07:30] <dmglouis> rambo3: theres no ipv6 routers
[07:30] <designdream> thanks so much guys! i now have sound
[07:30] <dmglouis> rambo3: present
[07:31] <rambo3> thats not an error , so its working
[07:31] <sureshot> ReverseBlade sureshot is just tring to helpe dont mean to over step your abilities ok
[07:31] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, you follow it. I am not that skillful in this network stuff
[07:31] <bogo> any one here who could help me out with nvidia geforce 7900gt 2 crt monitorz output?
[07:31] <sureshot> ReverseBlade i will read as it goes ok
[07:31] <raintheory> brb
[07:31] <dmglouis> should i reset router or something
[07:31] <sureshot> ReverseBlade i dont have the ubuntu knowlege
[07:32] <dmglouis> but if i do i'll disconnect here :)
[07:32] <bertugolu> hey everyone, my screen refresh rate is 60 hz, but i want it more...in screen reslolution, it wont allow me, how can i do it/
[07:32] <bertugolu> ?
[07:32] <ReverseBlade> daren, I think the software itself is buggy
[07:32] <Hybrid-Lord> Well, I must say i find Ubuntu quite refreshing. I've tried Debian and Redhat, aswell as 3 days of compiling Gentoo. wha.
[07:32] <eetfunk> how do i ssh into a different port?  I tried ssh -d 1234 hostname but it doesnt work...
[07:32] <sureshot> dmglouis read up on your router there is a little button you push with a paper clip reset it via instructions then reconfigure your router for your network ok
[07:32] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, he doesn't need it. since everything is in console this is not distro-specific
[07:33] <rambo3> dmglouis, try that
[07:33] <dmglouis> alright it'll take a while
[07:33] <dmglouis> i'll be back in bout 5 mins i guess
[07:33] <daren> ReverseBlade, it says I can manually add MONO_CFLAGS and MONO_LIBS, where would I look for these?
[07:33] <sureshot> ok dmglouis i figured as much
[07:33] <ReverseBlade> daren, to your .bashrc file
[07:34] <bmud_> bertugolu, refresh rate is in the resolution panel for me.
[07:34] <sureshot> ReverseBlade i was a network eng in ms and novell for about 20 years or more LOL linux is new to me
[07:34] <daren> no, I mean what path is MONO_CFLAGS in ubuntu?
[07:34] <ReverseBlade> daren, then reopen the terminal
[07:34] <daren> I suppose MONO_LIBS = /usr/lib/mono
[07:34] <michoelc> Hi all. I wanted to know if there is a way to make my ubuntu partition smaller, so I can make another partition as well? TIA.
[07:35] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, wow, linux is 15 years old in deed
[07:35] <dabaR> michoelc: do you use gnome?
[07:35] <wolfbane_691> hey does any 1 know if automatix is any good or not
[07:35] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, but if you consider the *nix background it is prolly older than you :)
[07:35] <dabaR> !automatix
[07:35] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:35] <dmglouis_> alright im back
[07:35] <dmglouis_> the ubuntu pc still has IP
[07:35] <wolfbane_691> is it bad
[07:36] <ReverseBlade> dmglouis, now , route -r
[07:36] <dabaR> wolfbane_691: some say so.
[07:36] <michoelc> dabaR: I have gnome, but I usually don't use it 'cus it's a very old computer with no RAM.. but I do have it..
[07:36] <sureshot> ReverseBlade well when your money is in somthing you dont pay attention to anything else i always thought linux is just something that was run for thing that for just for one application and such
[07:36] <rambo3> dmglouis:sudo route add default netmask 255.255.255.0 &&  sudo route add default gw  192.168.2.1 && sudo dhclient eth0
[07:36] <wolfbane_691> can it mess ur linux box up
[07:36] <nenita> ola
[07:36] <dabaR> michoelc: there are parted gparted and qtparted, look into those on google
[07:37] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, may be. I have no experience on this
[07:37] <michoelc> dabaR: Okay.. I will, thanks.. do I have to defragmentise first or something?
[07:37] <nenita> girllokita@hotmail.com
[07:37] <nenita> agregadme
[07:37] <dabaR> michoelc: no
[07:37] <dmglouis_> rambo3: i have an error for the first part
[07:37] <sureshot> ReverseBlade well i will get back on topic thanks for chatting
[07:37] <dabaR> wolfbane_691: try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:37] <michoelc> dabaR: Okay.. so thanks for the help.
[07:37] <dmglouis_> rambo3: SIOCCADDRT: no such device
[07:37] <ReverseBlade> sureshot, my pleasure
[07:37] <janbanan> How do I change the order in GRUB? I wan't windows at the top of the list
[07:38] <wolfbane_691> i have a program called ararok and im haveing a little trouble it wont play my mp3`s
[07:38] <ReverseBlade> janbanan, #grub
[07:38] <bruenig> janbanan, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list, copy and paste the windows entry above the other entries
[07:38] <janbanan> bruenig, thanks
[07:38] <ReverseBlade> windows ubber alles
[07:38] <ReverseBlade> lol
[07:38] <ReverseBlade> uber
[07:38] <bruenig> janbanan, my fault, it is sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:38] <dabaR> wolfbane_691: install libxine-extracodecs
[07:39] <mcquaid> hello, i'm putting together a system from some spare parts. it has onboard video via/s3g unichrome pro
[07:39] <wolfbane_691> ok
[07:39] <dmglouis_> alright ppl thanks for help but I've gtg now
[07:39] <mcquaid> anyone know what the opengl performance is like?  could this run a game like enemy territory?
[07:39] <dmglouis_> thanks rambo and reverseblade:
[07:39] <jason^> is there a way to maintain iptables rules over reboots?
[07:40] <Hybrid-Lord> So, just out of curiosity, If I have flash player 7.0 and the update says It's up-to-date, yet i need 8.0, how would I go about getting it?
[07:40] <ReverseBlade> jason^, worst case , save them into a file, and add them with a script after reboot
[07:40] <jason^> ReverseBlade: that's what i'm doing now
[07:40] <bruenig> Hybrid-Lord, flash 8 doesn't exist for linux, they are supposed to be making flash 9 soon
[07:40] <ianmacgregor> Hybrid-Lord: I don't think flash 8 is available for Linux yet
[07:40] <Hybrid-Lord> Aha, that would explain alot.
[07:40] <bruenig> flash 8 won't ever be available for linux as they chose not to port that
[07:40] <ReverseBlade> Hybrid-Lord, flash 8 will not be released for linux
[07:41] <fnf> Hybrid-Lord: Abode has implicitly stopped supporting for Flash for Linux, 7.0 is the newest version.
[07:41] <wolfbane_691> how do i install libxine-extracodecs
[07:41] <ReverseBlade> flash 9 will be available on early 2007
[07:41] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: :(
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> Hybrid-Lord: linux doesn't have 8 but I do have a frig which sometimes works if you want it
[07:41] <Hybrid-Lord> Sure gatekeeper, I'd love to give it a try.
[07:41] <bruenig> ianmacgregor, they are going to jump straight to 9 though and the beta should be out reasonably soon
[07:41] <ianmacgregor> That's good to hear
[07:41] <ReverseBlade> Hybrid-Lord, you can always run like, installing firefox for windows over wine
[07:42] <fnf> ReverseBlade, that's good, but where did you get that info from ?
[07:42] <Hybrid-Lord> Although, I have to warn ya TheGateKeeper, I'm quite new to Linux.
[07:42] <ReverseBlade> fnf, I've read it from ubuntu forums, there is a howto on that
[07:42] <Hybrid-Lord> ReverseBlade: I saw that a few times while googling it. Although i have no idea how to do that heh
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs > wolfbane_691
[07:42] <ReverseBlade> fnf, which one ? wine thing or flash 9 thing ?
[07:43] <ReverseBlade> Hybrid-Lord, just search the forums
[07:43] <Hybrid-Lord> Being able to wine flash 8.5...
[07:43] <bruenig> I use ie6 with flash 8 for my flash 8 stuff
[07:43] <wolfbane_691> says command not found
[07:43] <bruenig> through wine of course
[07:44] <Hybrid-Lord> Hmmmm
[07:44] <paya> Hi all I'm having a problem after installing an i686 kernel on a fresh install
[07:44] <ReverseBlade> if IE runs on linux then every software runs theoretically on linux
[07:44] <Hybrid-Lord> *nods*
[07:44] <paya> after installing i686 kernel system won't shutdown properly I have to turn off manually
[07:44] <fnf> ReverseBlade, I meant Flash 9, I remembered not so long ago there was a post on Slashdot talking about Flash support for Linux, the only way to contact the (only) developer is through his blog.
[07:44] <xamox> what mail server does everyone recommend for a web server that (runs apache w/ a CMS) and all I want to be able to have it do is just send e-mails from the website.
[07:44] <paya> pressing the case power button turns the pc off instead of ivoking shutdown
[07:45] <bruenig> ReverseBlade, hmmm, it works in a compatibility layer, theoretically anything runs on anything so long as it has some sort of compatibility depedencies and such met
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> Hybrid-Lord: well you could try this --> kate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat then change Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$ to Shockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$
[07:45] <mrmknet> Can someone guide me thru intalling nvidia driver?
[07:45] <wolfbane_691> how do i get libxine-extracodecs to install
[07:46] <bruenig> wolfbane_691, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:46] <wolfbane_691> ah ok
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> wolfbane_691: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:46] <paya> Anyone know if you're supposed to do anything extra after installing a new kernel and booting into it?
[07:46] <ianmacgregor> Why do people use wine? Aren't they worried about it running Windows exploits? http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=146
[07:46] <bruenig> wolfbane_691, make sure you have enabled the multiverse repositories
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> wolfbane_691: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs  ooops
[07:47] <bruenig> ianmacgregor, if it gets exploited and all virused up, you just delete the .wine directory and its gone, all the viruses are going to be localized to that directory
[07:47] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: Ahh, ok. But, still able to pass on viruses/trojans to other computers?
[07:47] <jokoon> Is amd athlon 2200+ called 386 ?
[07:47] <wolfbane_691> im trying to get amarok to work and it wont play my mp3`s
[07:48] <wolfbane_691> it says it can not load
[07:48] <bruenig> ianmacgregor, perhaps, I am not sure there
[07:48] <wolfbane_691> mp3
[07:48] <Hybrid-Lord> wolfbane_691: I'm using XMMS, works fine.
[07:48] <wolfbane_691> is it pretty?
[07:48] <Hybrid-Lord> Eh....
[07:48] <Hybrid-Lord> Basic winamp type theme.
[07:48] <bruenig> wolfbane_691, you don't have the proper codecs
[07:48] <paya> jokoon> No it's atleast 686
[07:48] <Hybrid-Lord> old school winamp..
[07:48] <bruenig> !mp3
[07:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:48] <wolfbane_691> im going for eye candy
[07:48] <Hybrid-Lord> heh
[07:48] <{_-IcE-_}> can someone tell me how to start 2 processes at boot? dont have them in /etc/init.d
[07:48] <whyso> why do my torrents go retardedly fast in ubuntu?
[07:49] <wolfbane_691> how do i get the codecs
[07:49] <bruenig> whyso, lots of seeds?
[07:49] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, you may put the global commands in /etc/rc.local or local commands in your bash.rc files.
[07:49] <whyso> ? ammount of seeds same with any os right
[07:50] <bruenig> whyso, yeah but maybe you jumped on a different torrent when you were using ubuntu or whatnot
[07:50] <bruenig> wolfbane_691, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:50] <whyso> nope same torrent (started it over cauese of reinstall)
[07:50] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: will that load them at bootup with proftpd and other services? (before gui)
[07:50] <paya> whyso> maybe your other os is clogged up with spyware, viruses etc
[07:50] <wolfbane_691> k thanx
[07:50] <whyso> and its 15x faster
[07:50] <whyso> thas possible :)
[07:51] <mcquaid> does anyone use onboard unichrome pro (s3g)? I'm wondering what the opengl performance is like
[07:51] <A_Square> hello all
[07:51] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, sure, if you put them in rc.local, commands in bash.rc will otherwise be executed after you login.
[07:51] <highvoltage> hello
[07:51] <jokoon> On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , I don't understand the "6. Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8." How can I know about my kernel ? What package should I check knowing there already are 4 with a green icon ?
[07:51] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: tnx, lemme give it a try :)
[07:51] <ks1> jokoon: uname -a
[07:52] <paya> So nobody has any answer for my kernel question?
[07:52] <ZiRo> which folder contains the "home" template for all new users created?
[07:52] <der0b> ziro: /etc/skel
[07:52] <ATAQ> from the command line how do I mount a network server
[07:52] <TubaSoldier> Question: I just recently installed mepis on my laptop. So far so good. the only issue i have is that the arts sound server seems to be broken. has anyone else had this issue?
[07:53] <ZiRo> der0b: thank you so much
[07:53] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: can i run a process not as root from there also?
[07:53] <der0b> np :)
[07:53] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, btw, make sure rc.local is executed at boot time (by default it is, unless you messed with the init.d/ dir)
[07:53] <{_-IcE-_}> su user before?
[07:53] <A_Square> I have been trying to set up apapche virtual hosting on dapper.  I have no a strange instance... my alias brings up my router login page!  I am dumbfounded nad google hasnt been too helpful... anyone have experience woth this?  I am pretty experienced linux user and have never seen this
[07:53] <raintheory> jokoon:   in a terminal type uname -r
[07:53] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, Yup, rc.local can run any commands.
[07:53] <raintheory> for your kernel version
[07:54] <der0b> jokoon: you could install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:54] <ZiRo> how can i defaultly set the default folder permissions of new users' home directorys so that they are inaccessable by anyone but the owner?
[07:54] <ZiRo> (and anyone with higher access privilages)
[07:54] <paya> System shuts down all the way to halting system then it just stands there on 686 kernel but no problem on 386 kernel
[07:55] <boink> ZiRo: chmod 664 blah
[07:55] <paya> It can't turn off the computer
[07:55] <boink> or even stricter, if you need that
[07:55] <boink> man chmod
[07:55] <ZiRo> boink: yes, but how do i set that as the default for all newly created users?
[07:55] <A[D] minS> i created file @ /var/www
[07:55] <fnf> Ziro: try setting umask value.
[07:55] <A[D] minS> file.php
[07:55] <boink> that's set somewhere in profiles or something like that
[07:56] <A[D] minS> and now i can't write any files or in files which in /var/www
[07:56] <A[D] minS> Permission denied
[07:56] <A[D] minS> so how i can give Permission to normal user to write ?
[07:56] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: tnx dude... seems to have worked well tho 1 failed... i think i know why, were can i check the logs to make sure?
[07:56] <jokoon> Is it normal that I have 2.6.15-27-386, a 386 kernel, knowing I have an Athlon 2200+ beeing a 686 ?
[07:56] <aoupi> ZiRo: I don't know if it'll work but try changing the permisions of the skel dir (/etc/skel)
[07:57] <boink> I think it's there
[07:57] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, what is the failed command ?
[07:57] <{_-IcE-_}> tried to start an eggdrop...
[07:57] <{_-IcE-_}> su username
[07:57] <boink> he
[07:57] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, all the system log files are saved under /var/log/
[07:57] <{_-IcE-_}> than usual
[07:58] <raintheory> jokoon: you could always install the 686 and see if you get a performance increase
[07:58] <ZiRo> aoupi, i was thinking about that, but i was weary i'll try though
[07:59] <jokoon> raintheory : That does not speak a lot for me ;-(
[07:59] <A[D] minS> !chmod
[07:59] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:59] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, I presume 'su username' is for changing the current user ?, what's for ?.
[07:59] <LimonJalisciense> i was working with a samba network but now i would like to make a non-windows network how can i do that
[07:59] <_martin_> How do I get openoffice to print to the kdeprinter?
[07:59] <sureshot> jokoon i got quite a difference with the 686 kernel ... beryl ran much quicker and such it seems to work well
[07:59] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: yep, coz it wont start if ur root
[08:00] <{_-IcE-_}> cant find anything in the logs as yet
[08:00] <A_Square> anyone working with virtual hosting on dapper server?
[08:00] <jokoon> sureshot : And how can I install this kernel ?
[08:00] <fjleonma> tu xx pichurrin
[08:00] <redkrieg_> I'm getting vnc authentication failed when I try to VNC in to my home machine.  I've tried running vncpasswd using the currently logged in user account to change the password, but no go.  Any ideas?
[08:00] <sureshot> jokoon i dont know the app-get command but it is in the repos if you search on it
[08:00] <sureshot> jokoon using synaptic
[08:01] <raintheory> jokoon: 386 is fine, it will work, but you can always install the 686 version and see if it works better.  It's not too hard to do, and it will give you both kernels in the grub menu so you can always switch back
[08:01] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, that's not really a failure but a feature IMO, can't you just log in as that user ?.
[08:01] <sureshot> can someone give jokoon the apt-get command to install the 686 kernal
[08:01] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: but i want its process to start at bootup
[08:01] <A[D] minS> <A[D] minS> how i can access /var/www as normal user ?
[08:01] <A[D] minS> <A[D] minS> want to set Permissions for normal user
[08:01] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, btw, rc.local is executed before any user is logged in, so 'su' wouldn't actually work.
[08:02] <ZiRo> altering the user permissions of the skel folder was no good
[08:02] <redkrieg_> jokoon, should be sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:02] <redlance> Time for everybody's favorite subject!  ATI drivers!  I followed the binary driver install how-to, but when I do fglrxinfo I still get that MESA crap...
[08:02] <jokoon> RedKrieg : thank you
[08:02] <der0b> jokoon: linux-image-686
[08:02] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: ic, any way around it? it wont run as root and i want it to start at bootup
[08:02] <redkrieg_> jokoon: np
[08:02] <sureshot> RedKrieg thanks i will put that in my cheat cheat
[08:03] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, if that's a process an ordinary user can manipulate, it would be more convenient to put the command in your bash.rc
[08:03] <M_A_K> I just installed ubuntu.  How do I install KDE now?
[08:03] <aoupi> M_A_K: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:03] <M_A_K> There are many items in synaptic for KDE.
[08:03] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: but it would start once that user logs in then right?
[08:04] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, yes
[08:04] <{_-IcE-_}> fnf: i want it to load before
[08:04] <aoupi> M_A_K: or grab kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[08:04] <jokoon> Mh, error message
[08:04] <eetfunk> how do i get a list of installed packages from the command line?
[08:04] <M_A_K> aoupi : I didn't think of looking for kubuntu.  Thanks.  Will that change the greeter and log in screen?
[08:05] <elvar> !paste
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:05] <aoupi> M_A_K: it should change everything, just reboot when it is installed
[08:05] <fnf> {_-IcE-_}, another way is to change the owner of that process to a particular user, but I haven't done it yet.
[08:05] <der0b> m_a_k: if you select to use kdm during install it will change the greeter
[08:05] <M_A_K> I dont necessarily want to switch to kubuntu, just play around with kde.
[08:05] <{_-IcE-_}> hm, i think thats what i need then
[08:05] <redlance> Any suggestions?  (Other then get an Invidia card)
[08:05] <raintheory> what command can i add to the end of a script to restart x?
[08:05] <jokoon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:05] <der0b> m_a_k: just select gdm when prompter
[08:05] <M_A_K> I tried installing kubuntu, but was not very comfortable with it.  I kind of like Gnome.
[08:05] <der0b> m_a_k: just select gdm when prompted
[08:06] <krazykit> jokoon: if you have any other package manager running, close it
[08:06] <TheGateKeeper> eetfunk: apt-cache search <whatever> or dpkg -S filename
[08:06] <elvar> !paste
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:06] <elvar> !pastebin
[08:06] <M_A_K> What is the difference between kubuntu-desktop and kdebase?
[08:06] <elvar> someone tell me about paste site
[08:06] <eetfunk> TheGateKeeper: i need a list of packages currently installed on my box, not search for a package
[08:06] <elvar> so i can paste my stuff on website and you can check it
[08:06] <der0b> eetfunk: dpkg -l
[08:06] <elvar> !paste
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:07] <brettm> !paste
[08:07] <brettm> hehehehe
[08:07] <finalbeta> !5.1
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <raintheory> !surround
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <eetfunk> der0b:  thnx1
[08:07] <raintheory> hmm
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> eetfunk: don't know off the top of my head try man:apt-get
[08:08] <noneee> hello, I've installed beryl and xgl.. all is working ok but video is a bit slow.. I have an ati radeon mobility 9200
[08:08] <krazykit> noneee: that'd be because you're using a mobility 9200.
[08:08] <bogo> hi
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> noneee: Ask in #ubuntu-xgl for that kind of stuff.
[08:08] <bogo> any one could help me with twin monitor?
[08:09] <noneee> also opengl games are slow
[08:09] <noneee> (when not using xgl)
[08:09] <furesta> Hi folks, could someone tell me if it's safe to delete all the packages in var/cache/apt?
[08:09] <noneee> but dri is working
[08:09] <krazykit> furesta: no, don't do taht.  use apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[08:10] <defrysk> furesta, simply sudo apt-get clean
[08:10] <r00k> hey
[08:10] <furesta> defrysk: Thx a lot!
[08:10] <r00k> does anyone know how to get a dell 922 pringer driver
[08:10] <antoni> hey has anybody succesfuly set up wifi for an 'Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG' card/
[08:11] <slacktyro> i'm not able to download the jre through apt-get, i already enable multiverse servers
[08:11] <der0b> slacktyro: did you apt-get update after adding multiverse?
[08:11] <noneee> great tonyyarusso
[08:11] <AlienX> ubotu, tell antoni about wireless
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: What happens when you try?
[08:12] <oddjob151> hello ... I just put together a new PC.. Abit AB9 Pro with Intel Core Duo E6600 2.4 GHz with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT  ... I am trying to install Ubuntu AMD64 using the iso however I cannot get it past "Booting Kernel", it freezes... i've read some forum posts and tried noacpi but without any luck... can someone help me install Ubuntu 64 on my machine? or point me in the right direction
[08:13] <farous> hi wondering anyone can link me to a link for information on how to make a homepage for a course i am teaching. I am mainly looking for a free site that might host the course homepage. I know this is little off topic but i know you are a great community :)
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: Package name is sun-java5-bin
[08:14] <ZiRo> ive even tried editing usr/sbin/adduser
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> farous: Ask every once in a while in #ubuntu-offtopic (that's where we handle the great-community-but-not-support... kind of stuff)
[08:14] <ZiRo> i changed the chmod from 0755 to 0750 and no joy :\
[08:14] <r00k> does anyone know how to get a dell 922 pringer driver
[08:14] <maverick`-> oddjob151, Intel Core Duo is 32bit, not 64bit
[08:14] <slacktyro> der0b: tonyyarusso i try jre, jre* there're lot of packages but not the one that i want
[08:14] <maverick`-> and AMD is not Intel ;)
[08:15] <farous> tonyyarusso: fair enough
[08:15] <der0b> maverick`-: core2 doesn't support emt64?
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: You want sun-java5-bin; is that not available?
[08:15] <r00k> whats a good channel to discuss printer drivers?
[08:16] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: it's not finding this package
[08:16] <maverick`-> der0b, oh my failure.
[08:16] <sergevn_> Good evening, I have a question, i have plugged my usbharddrive in my ubuntu machine, it autmounts prefect, but my question is: how can i configure autmount? so that it mounts using ntfs-fuse
[08:16] <maverick`-> you are right, it support emt64
[08:16] <_azrael> Hey, does anyone know a good way to resolve this:
[08:16] <_azrael> The following packages have unmet dependencies:rn  libxine-dev: Depends: libxine-main1 (= 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7) but 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.2 is to be installedrnE: Broken packages
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: Which ones do you see?  (Did you update after adding multiverse?)
[08:16] <krazykit> r00k: dunno, check linuxprinting's site to see if there's an irc channel
[08:17] <_azrael> I've looked around for another package name that might include the headers, but I haven't seen anything else.
[08:17] <_azrael> Ideas?
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Let me know if you find out.
[08:17] <oddjob151> maverick: to my understanding the Intel Core Duo E6600 supports the Extended Memory 64 Technology EM64T which is "supported" in the Ubuntu 64 bit version
[08:17] <maverick`-> der0b, core 2 duo is 64bit, but only core duo is 32 bit.
[08:17] <r00k> thx
[08:17] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: yep, when i try apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:17] <M_A_K> Where does ubuntu store the wallpaper pictures?
[08:17] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: it returns not found
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: What do you have available?
[08:18] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: i havent found a solution yet :), i was asking the channel because i cant find it on tech forums etc.
[08:18] <oddjob151> maveric: my apologies, I have the Intel Core 2 Duo
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: yeah..I'm sure someone knows; I just haven't found them yet.
[08:18] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: you mean at source.list?
[08:18] <_azrael> Are header files simply lacking for this package at this time? I would like to avoid installing too many packages from source, but if I can't get the -dev package in I'll need to.
[08:18] <coyctecm> what's the status of metacity composite support in edgy
[08:18] <maverick`-> oddjob151, maybe i had better to read...
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: No; you said you found other packages but not that one.  Which ones?
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> coyctecm: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[08:19] <coyctecm> I have added Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection in xorg.conf, but nothing happens
[08:19] <UbuntuGuy> ALl -- any idea how edgy is coming?
[08:19] <coyctecm> ok
[08:20] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: i found other packages when i try jre*
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> UbuntuGuy: #ubuntu+1 for yours also :)
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: Like...?
[08:20] <oddjob151> can anyone help me with installing 64 bit Ubuntu on an Intel Core 2 Duo machine? I am having trouble getting the cd to boot past a certain poing (sits at "Booting Kernel")
[08:20] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: docbook-jrefentry
[08:20] <UbuntuGuy> join #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: I also tried adding it to /etc/fstab, but then it creates 2 mount points, the one i configged in fstab and an autogenerated location; example: fstab, /media/data    automount then creates /media/data-1
[08:21] <UbuntuGuy> tonyyarusso: thanks!
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Eww.
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: Sounds like you have universe added but not multiverse.
[08:21] <totall_6_7> oddjob151: try this site if you want info on what intell chips support 64 bit http://or1cedar.cps.intel.com/isn/community/en-us/blogs/mult-core_com/archive/2006/09/20/30224178.aspx
[08:21] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: I can work with it, but i want to just edit the automount configuration :)
[08:21] <RedKrieg|Work> does anyone know where the vnc settings are stored for the built in remote desktop utility?  I'm connected via ssh and don't have access to the gui to configure
[08:22] <mirro-irc> ok, i'm absolutely new to linux, i downloaded Mozilla2beta in .gz file. What am i supposed to do now to install it??
[08:22] <lob22> i just installed 6.10 beta and i have a wireless network and wen i do dhcp for the wireless card it dont connect me to the internet
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Yeah, my hope was to mount flash drives with the "sync" option so I could pull them out whenever without unmounting.
[08:22] <bruenig> mirro-irc, extract it and then run the script
[08:22] <KenSentMe> mirro-irc: normally you install things with synaptic/adept
[08:22] <whyso> im on regular ubuntu now, is it too late to switch over to kde?
[08:22] <bruenig> KenSentMe, it is not available in the repos
[08:22] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: that is working with me, hot swappable, but not mounting it hotswappable with writeable access
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> mirro-irc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion if you're trying those.
[08:23] <briguyd> whyso, nope
[08:23] <sureshot> hey all if i wanted to install edgy on a usb device can that be done and boot it as well my puter has not floppy drive
[08:23] <whyso> ive installed gnome packages, id have to remove those at the least right?
[08:23] <RedKrieg|Work> whyso: no, you can sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <briguyd> whyso, no, you can just install kubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <lob22> can somone help me
[08:23] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: it is a NTFS partition with all my data on it :)
[08:23] <whyso> wow so cool
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> whyso: Nope.  You can add kubuntu-desktop and have both, or remove Gnome if you wish.
[08:23] <briguyd> whyso, and you'll have both gnome and KDE
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Could be important
[08:23] <KenSentMe> bruenig: i know, but if someone is new i don think he or she wants to compile stuff
[08:23] <briguyd> whyso, and xubuntu-desktop for xfce
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> sureshot: Yes, you can install to usb devices now.
[08:24] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: i uncoment all server at sources.list
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> !ask > lob22
[08:24] <whyso> nice! this is so crazily better than windows
[08:24] <totall_6_7> briguyd: how does one switch between the two desktops gnome and kde??
[08:24] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: still not working
[08:24] <KenSentMe> mirro-irc: maybe you should read http://help.ubuntu.com first about installing etc
[08:24] <briguyd> totall_6_7, log out and change your "session"
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: That's not enough.
[08:24] <bruenig> KenSentMe, perhaps although there no compilation for that, it is just precompiled binaries, but I get your point
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse > slacktyro
[08:24] <lob22> tonyyarusso i just installed 6.10 beta and i have a wireless network and wen i do dhcp for the wireless card it dont connect me to the internet
[08:24] <totall_6_7> thanks briguyd :)
[08:24] <ianmacgregor> lob22: /join #ubuntu+1
[08:24] <RedKrieg|Work> lob22 I reccomend joining #ubuntu+1
[08:25] <briguyd> totall_6_7, any time
[08:25] <sureshot> tonyyarusso good i have a usb converter to sata with a 250gb drive want to try edgy with out messing up my dapper
[08:25] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: I tried disabling it in the Prerences> Removeable Drives and Media, and then manual mounting them, but then he cant find the device anymore in /dev/
[08:25] <whyso> will my old apps still be runnable (ones that depend on gnome) from kde?
[08:25] <bruenig> whyso yes
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Maybe they're just named differently?
[08:25] <whyso> too awsome :)!!
[08:26] <lob22> iight thanks
[08:26] <briguyd> whyso, and KDE apps run under gnome
[08:26] <totall_6_7> whyso: even so it seems that you can switch between them just by logging on and switching sessions
[08:26] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: so, i'm lost :)
[08:26] <totall_6_7> whyso: so if you do not like it, no loss
[08:26] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: The devices, yes but what i can find it dmesg when i plug in the hdd, it says /dev/sdb1, but when i try to mount then he cant find the device.
[08:26] <Jhonny1009> why do pages in firefox look so much different than in windows? it's not even close
[08:27] <sergevn_>  tonyyarusso: sorry for crappy english :)
[08:27] <bruenig> Jhonny1009, windows is not a web browse, so that is probably where the problem is.
[08:27] <whyso> ah ok, ty for the help, one more q: how do i get my drives to mount automatically when i boot
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> slacktyro: You need to add the word multiverse on the end of the line that had universe, essentially.  The link from the bot will have more detail.
[08:27] <slacktyro> Jhonny1009: try ctrl plus
[08:27] <bruenig> browser*
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Hmm, don't know what it's doing then.
[08:27] <Jhonny1009> bruenig I ment firefox in windows :)
[08:28] <sergevn_> Jhonny1009: Because it's a different browser, just like you buy a mercedes and a fiat panda, it's both a car :P
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Jhonny1009: Define different please?
[08:28] <Jhonny1009> slacktyro, I tryed that.. still looks very different
[08:28] <bruenig> Jhonny1009, how so, I know there are different fonts and stuff but other than that it should be the same
[08:28] <whyso> Jhonny1009: you maybe had plugins/themes on teh windows one?
[08:29] <slacktyro> tonyyarusso: thank you man, now it's updating
[08:29] <Jhonny1009> there are different fonts.. ye, text relative sizes are verrryy different
[08:29] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: ah well, my cousin is coming to visit this evening, and he's a debain guru so hopefully he can fix it :), ill let you know then i solved the problem :)
[08:29] <whyso> Jhonny1009: i think you can download the windows fonts search in synaptic
[08:29] <slacktyro> Jhonny1009: press ctrl and + to zoom in and ctrl and - to zoom out
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Jhonny1009: Yeah, fonts and that sort of thing are to be expected, although they can be changed.  Many of the fonts you're used to are owned by MS, and can't be redistributed legally by Ubuntu, although you can get them separately on your own.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> !msttcorefonts > Jhonny1009
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Sweet
[08:30] <whyso> tonyyarusso: thats mean :(
[08:31] <Jhonny1009> hmm .. looking at te fonts thing
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> whyso: What, owning fonts?
 !msttcorefonts > Jhonny1009
[08:32] <totall_6_7> !msttcorefonts > totall_6_7
[08:32] <totall_6_7> cool
[08:32] <whyso> whats that even mean, that your less that a font :?)
[08:33] <whyso> than*
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> whyso: Hehe, no.
[08:34] <totall_6_7> whyso look at your private message from ubotu
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> !ubotu > whyso
[08:34] <totall_6_7> now there is a math oriented person, or a programmer
[08:35] <totall_6_7> lol
[08:35] <whyso> hahah cool
[08:35] <TaPiOn> Hello
[08:35] <TaPiOn> how can i accelere the trackpad (powerbook) ?
[08:37] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: i solved the problem, just disable the automounting in the Preferences>Removable Media and Devices, then edit fstab and add the following line: /dev/sdb1 /media/data ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1001,umask=0002 0 0              ntfs-fuse is software to write to ntfs, and it works :)
[08:37] <Kopiekat> hi
[08:38] <jessid> Hi. I have a little question... xmodmap is used to change the configuration to the keyboard, isnt it? Ok...how can I configure to an apropiatthe keyboard....mine is spanish...and the command I am using is this xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us ...I tryed with .es, but doesnt exist...some help?
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Interesting.
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> jessid: Better off using the Gnome keyboard layout selector than manually doing the whole thing.
[08:38] <aoupi> jessid: setxkbmap es
[08:38] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: Hope it's clear, im not so good in discribing things in english :)
[08:39] <jessid> aoupi ok...let me see...
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> sergevn_: Meh, fstab is universal :)
[08:39] <Kopiekat> having a problem with the desktop cd: when i startup with the cd in my drive, everything works fine, i log on etc. I just can't use my keyboard...
[08:39] <x3r0> hi does ubuntu have mp3 support and avi?
[08:39] <jessid> aoupi oh man you are God!!!
[08:39] <KenSentMe> x3r0: yes
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> !restricted > x3r0
[08:39] <sergevn_> tonyyarusso: Well im quite a rookie in linux myself so for me it's like "EUREKA!" :P
[08:39] <KenSentMe> x3r0: avi out of the box and after installing some packages
[08:40] <aoupi> jessid: :) you'll want to change it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as well
[08:40] <x3r0> KenSentMe, mk
[08:40] <whyso> x3r0: if you want a package just use synaptics search
[08:40] <aoupi> jessid: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the line that has XkbLayout set it to es instead of us
[08:41] <Kopiekat> anyone knows why i cannot type anything when i start up with the desktop-cd?
[08:41] <Kopiekat> my keyboard is a default compaq keyboard.
[08:42] <jessid> aoupi i will tell you the truth,... I am trying to configure XGL and there is a step that I have to do this xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us...i would like to load the correct keyboard
[08:43] <slacktyro> i'll have to study now, thank you for the help, bye
[08:43] <jessid> aoupi man, I cant use alt key...with that command you told me :(
[08:43] <x3r0> does anyone know about clustering?
[08:43] <whyso> umm sry if this is offtopic, but is there a way to turn off leaving/entering messages in irc?
[08:44] <elvar> why is my ubuntu slow .to save file like 11mb to my harddisk ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
[08:44] <Psychobudgie> whyso,  what irc client are you using?
[08:44] <elvar> this is just new for me please help nme
[08:44] <elvar> me*
[08:44] <Donald1> hello, how can i connect to wireless without having to enter my WEP each time?
[08:44] <whyso> xchat
[08:45] <Psychobudgie> in xchat do /set irc_conf_mode 1
[08:45] <whyso> elvar: what type of partiton is it
[08:45] <Donald1> hello, how can i connect to wireless without having to enter my WEP each time?
[08:45] <unstable> I've got a thinkpad x22 laptop, 800 mhz(PIII), with 128 megs of ram, and 3 gig hdd. What is a good distribution of GNU/Linux to use on it? It's for a teacher.
[08:45] <Psychobudgie> or right click on the channel name and highlight the channel name and untick show join/part message
[08:45] <whyso> elvar: for me ubuntu is about 10x faster than windows...
[08:45] <unstable> The teacher probably needs a web browser, email client, and office suite
[08:46] <ZiRo> can i post a link to the forum as an attempt to gain some answers to my question?
[08:46] <crocd> add the key to your wireless card Donald1
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> Donald1: It should store in either the default network config, or network-manager.  Don't know why it's not for you.
[08:46] <aoupi> jessid: try setxkbmap es nodeadkeys
[08:46] <unstable> Is it possible/easy to modify gnome to run half decent on this machine with ubuntu?
[08:46] <whyso> Donald1: edubuntu would be good for a teacher
[08:46] <elvar> please check this file :S -> http://download.mozilla.org/?product=suite-1.7.13&os=win&lang=en-US .i am trying to safe this baby to my harddisk /home/ folder*
[08:46] <elvar> it is taKING ME so long time :(
[08:46] <whyso> i mean unstable
[08:46] <unstable> whyso: edubuntu is for a student, not teacher. and this is a college teacher
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> unstable: Any Ubuntu will fit on 3 gig, although not with huge amounts of room.  Ubuntu will run on 800/128, but maybe not ideal.  I'd recommend Xubuntu (Ubuntu with XFCE instead of Gnome).
[08:47] <Donald1> crocd: how do i access my wireless card?
[08:47] <crocd> elvar: why dont you just use terminal to download it?
[08:47] <unstable> tonyyarusso: And for web browser/email/office suite?
[08:47] <whyso> ah ok, since you said it was for a slower laptop then there was a lighter distrib, like xbuntu
[08:47] <elvar> crocd couse i dont know how to do it
[08:47] <jessid> aoupi cant use alt+F2
[08:48] <icheyne> unstable, Xubuntu is v. nice
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> unstable: I believe Firefox/Evolution/OOo just like the Gnome version, but let me check on that.  (You can get whatever you want; not sure what's default)
[08:48] <whyso> unstable: i heard 6.10 faster too
[08:48] <aoupi> jessid: open up a terminal and type it in there
[08:48] <Donald1> crocd: how do i access my wireless card?
[08:48] <Keps> xubuntu comes default with thunderbird instead of evolution
[08:48] <jessid> aoupi yes I have already done it, but still having problems with alt F2
[08:49] <Keps> but you can apt-get it if you want
[08:49] <crocd> Donald1: is it on ubuntu?
[08:49] <Donald1> crocd: yes
[08:49] <elvar> please guys what could be wrong http://download.mozilla.org/?product=suite-1.7.13&os=win&lang=en-US :S it is taking me 1 hr and 40 min :( what is wrong with my linux ?
[08:49] <gholen> Is it safe to mig dapper reposteries with edgy reposteris?
[08:50] <gholen> *mix
[08:50] <crocd> elvar: wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=suite-1.7.13&os=win&lang=en-US
[08:50] <Ranbee> hi, is there an ubuntu based distro that's lighter than xubuntu?
[08:50] <Samuli^> ubuntu-server :)
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> unstable: Firefox, Thunderbird, Abiword/Gnumeric are default.
[08:50] <Ranbee> for a noob
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> gholen: Not unless you're feeling really lucky/adventurous.
[08:50] <elvar> croced it is the same :( 1 hr and 50 min to complete this
[08:51] <crocd> not sure I dont have my laptop up and it has a gentoo distro on. but from memory if you go to your networking option and then select your card you should be able to get to WEP authentication settings
[08:51] <whyso> tonyyarusso:  are defaults really so important? if your installing it for someone anyways then you can just change it
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Ranbee: Fluxbuntu
[08:51] <Keps> Ranbee: fluxbuntu, but depends on how noob you are :)
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> whyso: Correct.
[08:51] <Samuli^> Ranbee, I think fluxbox, icewm or enlightenment 16 are lighter than xfce4(xubuntu).
[08:51] <Donald1> crocd: yes i'm on ubuntu, how do i access my wireless card?
[08:51] <aoupi> jessid: try in #ubuntu-es they probably have more experience with spanish keyboards :)
[08:51] <Samuli^> Ranbee, from those I would try enlightenment 16
[08:51] <crocd> Fluxbuntu is only on dev alpha status and only for the brave hearted who want to play
[08:51] <jessid> aoupi ok...thanks!
[08:52] <gholen> tonyyarusso, Okej, just wondering?
[08:52] <Ranbee> tonyyarusso: Keps Samuli^  great thanks for the help
[08:52] <elvar> this linux stuff is to slow the i thought :( back to windows for now .it's good think that i had duel boot
[08:52] <whyso> tonyyarusso:  :) it seems everyones so hung up on them though!
[08:52] <crocd> Donald1: go to network admin
[08:52] <jessid> aoupi but, how can I restore the old state of the keyboard, after i did what you told me?
[08:52] <aoupi> jessid: setxkbmap us
[08:52] <Kopiekat> does anyone know why my keyboard doesn't work in ubuntu?
[08:52] <Kopiekat> it does in windows
[08:53] <crocd> Donald1: if your card is detected as wireless you should be able to access the properties or settings to change them
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> whyso: They're important for many purposes, just maybe not yours and mine ;)
[08:53] <x3r0> jessid, what type of KB?
[08:53] <link_36p> Hey anyone know if the ipod lib had nano G2 support?
[08:53] <Donald1> Crocd: yes, i can access it
[08:53] <jessid> x3r0 generic 101 keys
[08:54] <ZiRo> please help; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279783
[08:54] <x3r0> jessid, setxkbmap us-101
[08:54] <x3r0> i think
[08:54] <x3r0> let me look again
[08:54] <x3r0> hold om
[08:54] <link_36p> Does anyone know if ipod nano G2 support is in ubuntu?
[08:54] <x3r0> on
[08:54] <Donald1> crocd: i go to wireless connection -> properties -> ???
[08:54] <jessid> x3r0 Error loading new keyboard description
[08:55] <joseph> hi
[08:55] <aoupi> jessid: setxkbmap -layout es -model pc101
[08:55] <aoupi> jessid: or pc102 might work
[08:55] <mirro-irc> where i can get a prog to run windows programm on ubuntu?
[08:55] <x3r0> yesh
[08:55] <x3r0> pc102
[08:55] <goga> hello everyone , i 've just installed xfce on dapper and i cant find the compositing manager (not the compiz) in  Settings manager->Window manager tweaks. does anyone knows how can i find it ? or install it?
[08:55] <jessid> aoupi where do you get those arguements?
[08:55] <aoupi> man setxkbmap and google :)
[08:55] <joseph> anyone having problem with  a cisco 350 wlan PCMCIA on dapper
[08:55] <elvar> what could be wrong :( all things are slow in my ubuntu but not on windows .is it couse i have duel booted windows and linux?????
[08:56] <whyso> mirro-irc: try the win 32 codecs and wine
[08:56] <gdb> ZiRo: dpkg-reconfigure adduser
[08:56] <whyso> mirro-irc: search for them using synaptic package manager
[08:56] <gdb> ZiRo: one of the options will be "Hide user directories from other users" or something
[08:56] <kmu_> mirro-irc: also see vmware server
[08:56] <gdb> ZiRo: say "Yes" or "No" or whatever based on the question
[08:57] <elvar> !slow
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <x3r0> does anyone cluster with ubuntu?
[08:57] <elvar> !ubuntuslow
[08:57] <aoupi> elvar: dual booting does not slow down ubuntu, mus be something else
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuslow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <goga> does anyone knows why the "compositing " tab , is missing in Settings manager->Window manager tweaks on xfce?
[08:57] <elvar> aoupi i dont know :s
[08:57] <gdb> ZiRo: It's "Do you want system wide readable home directories?"  Answer "No"
[08:57] <gdb> ZiRo: that's all there is to it
[08:57] <Donald1> How can i configure my wireless to connect automatically without having to put the WEP in each time?
[08:58] <manimal> anybody know the command to stop dhclient?
[08:58] <unstable>  /wc
[08:58] <x3r0> i use qwerty/us.map
[08:58] <elvar> yeah there is a new packegs on my disktop that i need to upgrade and install maybe that is why? aopui
[08:58] <jessid> see you in a second.....
[08:58] <sureshot> hey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such
[08:59] <elvar> aopui i have tryied to ugrade and install ,this packages but it will take me , 5 hr to finsh all of it :(
[08:59] <jonassss> Hi, is anyone familiar with running ubuntu dapper on an HP nx6125 and has succeeded with wireless internet connection?
[08:59] <marcrosoft> when trying to run hal, i get this error
[08:59] <Donald1> How can i configure my wireless to connect automatically without having to put the WEP in each time?
[08:59] <marcrosoft> 12:59:50.107 [E]  hald_dbus.c:3258: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[08:59] <ericpersson> is there some nongraphical installation stuff for the desktopversion?
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> can I use a Multimedia Projector with Ubuntu Linux?
[08:59] <aoupi> sureshot: try :)
[09:00] <elvar> aoupi ; i guess you are not familiar with this
[09:00] <ericpersson> Donald1: hava look at wpa_supplicant..
[09:00] <elvar> so i guess*
[09:00] <aoupi> elvar: not at all, my ubuntu is fast as lightning
[09:00] <sureshot> aoupi i dont want to hose up grub on my laptop is what i am trying to avoid
[09:01] <Donald1> ericpersson: ok, i do this in terminal?
[09:01] <asmo674hurt> how to set up original usplash?
[09:01] <ericpersson> Donald1: well, not sure, i have only used it on debian, but try google, and then install it in the package manager..
[09:02] <C-O-L-T> !projector
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about projector - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <UKMatt> whats the ubuntu off topic room
[09:03] <aoupi> UKMatt: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:04] <jcooke> is there something extra I need to install to be able to use the mount -t smbfs command
[09:06] <tempted> question: i loaded all the appropriate webserver stuff.. and am hosting a webpage.... but through my router and stuff / which is properly configured, i can't load through port 80.... am i forgetting something, is there a firewall setting that i am forgetting?
[09:06] <ericpersson> is there a nongraphical installation for ubuntu?
[09:07] <aoupi> tempted: can you connect to http://localhost ?
[09:07] <defrysk> ericpersson, alternative install you mean ?
[09:07] <tempted> aoupi: yes.
[09:07] <ericpersson> defrysk: is that what its called?
[09:08] <defrysk> yes
[09:08] <jcooke> ericpersson, by the router being properly configured, you mean that port 80 is forwarded to that machine?
[09:08] <jcooke> tempted rather, not ericpersson
[09:08] <ericpersson> hehe
[09:08] <meatballhat9000> anybody know the command line way to stop dhclient?
[09:08] <ericpersson> defrysk: can i get into the alternative install with the normal livecd, or do i need to download something else?
[09:09] <defrysk> ericpersson, get the alternative install cd
[09:09] <tempted> jcooke, as far as i can tell ya, everything is forwarded properly
[09:09] <jcooke> meatballhat9000, killall dhclient3
[09:09] <jcooke> :)
[09:09] <ericpersson> defrysk: damn, thought I would be able to do it with this one. :/ thanks anyway..
[09:09] <gjerde> hei
[09:09] <cr3> anyone happen to have a wifi card with broadcom chipset? can it work with ndiswrapper on dapper?
[09:10] <tempted> kinda fustrating.. i got all my php. sql setup... but can't go outside this dam router... i thought maybe it was an ubuntu internal firewall or something
[09:10] <sco8ie>  I hate to say this but after installing Ubuntu on a 1.8 GHz PC with 256 MB RAM, I found to be slower than Windows 2000. :S it takes me almost 2 hr to download 11 mb files for a site
[09:10] <Jhonny1009> this may sound silly ,but what is the default root password for 6.06?
[09:10] <meatballhat9000> jcooke: that's what I thought... getting "dhclient3: no process killed" :-( sorry....
[09:10] <sco8ie> but in windows much much faster
[09:10] <jcooke> tempted, maybe config your httpd to listen on it's network ip?
[09:10] <tempted> how do i go about dat?
[09:10] <Donald1> how do i set my ubuntu to remember my WEP key?
[09:11] <aoupi> tempted: in the apache conf, find the Listen line make sure it is Listen 80
[09:11] <tempted> k.. let me go look
[09:11] <cr3> sco8ie: was your windows box configured to use a proxy server?
[09:11] <Jhonny1009> what is the default root password?
[09:11] <ericpersson> defrysk: happen to where i can get it?
[09:11] <aoupi> !sudo
[09:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:12] <Donald1> how do i set my ubuntu to remember my WEP key?
[09:12] <defrysk> ericpersson, on the downloadpage
[09:12] <FordPrefect> if you must become root then do "sudo su -"
[09:12] <FordPrefect> then type in YOUR password
[09:12] <aoupi> or just sudo -s
[09:12] <ericpersson> defrysk: nothing on there called alternative..
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> sco8ie: most linux distros are usually faster at downloading stuff than windows, I know my kubuntu system is quicker than windows
[09:12] <jcooke> Donald1, by editing your network scripts in /etc/network/?
[09:12] <defrysk> a sec...
[09:13] <jcooke> Donald1, /etc/network/interfaces I think
[09:13] <Hexidigital> anyone using the app kxdocker that can tell me where the .xml config file should be located?
[09:13] <defrysk> ericpersson, http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[09:13] <Donald1> jcooke: do i access it from the terminal?
[09:13] <ericpersson> defrysk: found it on the download page? thanks anyway..
[09:14] <defrysk> ericpersson, yes I did
[09:14] <sureshot> Donald1 try download gnetswitch in synaptic package manager it says it will do this for you
[09:14] <Jhonny1009> ubotu, I read it, so does this mean that :root: does not exist in ubuntu?
[09:14] <Donald1> sureshot: thanx
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I read it, so does this mean that :root: does not exist in ubuntu? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <aoupi> jonassss: ubotu is a bot, but you are correct
[09:14] <sureshot> Donald1 search on wep profile
[09:14] <aoupi> ops
[09:15] <aoupi> Jhonny1009: ubotu is a bot, but you are correct
[09:15] <Jhonny1009> HEHE< BO T:)
[09:15] <Donald1> sureshot: where's the wep profile?
[09:15] <ericpersson> defrysk: i must be blind, thanks for the direct link though..
[09:15] <tempted> jcooke, i do the notice of "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName" when i restart apache
[09:16] <defrysk> ericpersson, select  europe mirror on the downloadpage , continue from there , and you'l see it ;)
[09:16] <redlance> Okay, I got fglrx installed and working.  Had to do it the hard way with the actual ATI drivers and compile the package myself, but that seems to have worked.  Now I want to test it.  I have used glxgears.  What else is there?
[09:16] <jcooke> tempted, I don't remember what that means, but I don't think it's bad
[09:16] <sureshot> Donald1 bring up synapitc pagaga manger click on search and type wep profile as the search criteria and it will give you the lists
[09:16] <aoupi> tempted: find the ServerName line in the apache conf and set it to your domain name (like www.mysite.com) if you don't have one don't bother about it
[09:16] <tempted> me neither... i can just add two lines at the end.. and it goes away... but i feel like it's something else i am forgeting
[09:16] <djmccormick>  i'm trying to install either ubuntu or fedora on this box, it has four SCSI drives that were previously in a RAID array. i'm having trouble with the raid stuff, and don't need it anyway, so now i'm just attempting to install on the first drive. i've got it installed, but can't boot into the installation. all raid arrays in the controller have been deleted, and in the bios everything is just set to "auto" and it doesn't show any drive nam
[09:17] <Donald1> sureshot: i downloaded gnetswitch, it seems to work, it has an autoconnection option
[09:17] <tempted> aoupi, ya, i don't have my domain name setup yet... waiting for my hosting to cancel...
[09:17] <tempted> ya, i figured that
[09:17] <elvar> please someone tell me how to check for errors or stuff :/ to find out why is my computer (ubuntu) slow
[09:17] <elvar> it's so crazy how slow it is
[09:17] <factotum> if I have restarted my system and I have prefetching installed, do I have to run it again after reboot, or is that more automated than just the default scan every 14 days
[09:18] <aoupi> elvar: run top in a terminal to see if one proccess is using alot of resources (like 99% CPU)
[09:18] <RancidLM> hey all kinda a offtopic question i have multiple pop accounts that i check from 2 computers is there a way for both computeres to see the same archived email.. kinda like how a exchange server works?
[09:18] <tempted> now i am just fustrated... :(
[09:18] <brownedwg89> elvar: do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[09:18] <RancidLM> do i have to share my mbox files? would that work?
[09:18] <elvar> i think so :(
[09:18] <sureshot> Donald1 i am glad i hope it works for you.. if you install the kde invironment download the knetswitch as well i think i dont know that much .. as i said i live in the boonies i dont even use the security on my wireless netowork
[09:18] <aoupi> tempted: you still can't connect from outside the router?
[09:19] <factotum> another thing, i just installed unreal tournament and neverwinter nights on my system and Im totaly stoked on how much better they run then on winxp, any other games to recommend?
[09:19] <elvar> i installd inidia
[09:19] <redlance> Welp, I found the one I wanted.  It's fgl_glxgears...I'm getting over 565 FPS
[09:19] <amayera> hi
[09:19] <tempted> nope.... i'm gonna check my router setting again.
[09:19] <loupgaroublond> how do i enable widescreen support in ubuntu? my resolution 1280x800 isn't showing up
[09:19] <amayera> what do I have to do to get my solution for suspend2ram which works for my laptop looked at and maybe included into the main distro?
[09:19] <brownedwg89> elvar: type "glxinfo | grep direct" into console
[09:19] <defrysk> loupgaroublond sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <ZirJoker> spanish
[09:20] <elvar> i installd nvidia-glx and then glx dav that is the stuffs i have installd  ,myabe the glx dav wrong ,.i get yes
[09:20] <Donald1> sureshot: thank you again
[09:20] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, run the defaults exept your screenresolution
[09:20] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, for some reason, that didn't work, and i found all this tablet junk that made gdm crash on startup
[09:20] <Chm0d> how the heck can i get rid of mythtv?  all of it
[09:20] <sureshot> Donald1 if you would have clicked on your network icon went to properties and then the general tab i think it would have let you do that as well just looked at it
[09:21] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, you might want a non command line answer for that too
[09:21] <sureshot> Donald1 you are welcome
[09:21] <tempted> aoupi, jcooke... i got it... one freaking digit was off in my router setup... thanks a bunch tho
[09:21] <elvar> semboy@SigurNafnjesu:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[09:21] <elvar> direct rendering: Yes
[09:21] <tempted> :)
[09:21] <jcooke> :)
[09:21] <Slaj_R> anyone here proficient with regular expression?
[09:21] <aoupi> tempted: :p
[09:21] <jcooke> Slaj_R, sometimes
[09:21] <elvar> brownedwg89 maybe it was wrong to install , glx dav !!!!???? yes or no please
[09:21] <brownedwg89> elvar: did you try "top"?
[09:22] <tempted> stupid me
[09:22] <jcooke> tempted, I've done worse, to a server hosting 200+ domains ;(
[09:22] <elvar> i am trying now
[09:22] <brownedwg89> elvar: anything using a lot of cpu?
[09:22] <elvar> tempted you aint stupid
[09:22] <Slaj_R> jcooke: I'm making a list in vim, and each line is preceded by a number.  When inserting a new item, I want to do a global search/replace to increment each of the following lines by one.  What's the format for a multiple digit number?
[09:22] <chuckyp> What'd he do?
[09:23] <johso> hiya guys.
[09:23] <tempted> ouch... that is pretty rough... i just gave up on my hosting package.. limited way too much... so i setup the server on my desktop.. it runs most of the time.... now i can hope that i can keep my domain name...
[09:23] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, i just did what you said, selected only my native resolution, and the screen resolution utility tells me all there is, is the standard svga resolutions
[09:23] <jcooke> Slaj_R,  you mean like [0-9] +
[09:23] <elvar> brownedwg89 yeah my root
[09:23] <tempted> how do i make it so my domain name is forwarded to my ip?
[09:23] <whyso> where are programs stored? (example beagle/Log
[09:23] <brownedwg89> elvar: is it xorg?
[09:24] <elvar> aha but it is just at 0.12 and 16.0
[09:24] <elvar> it changes
[09:24] <Slaj_R> jcooke: Yes, except the numbers will range into 3 digits.  I don't want to increment every single digit by one, just the ranking of each line.
[09:24] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, make sure to restart x after
[09:24] <brownedwg89> hmmm
[09:24] <dejavu_> hi
[09:24] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, /etc/init.d/gdm stop then start
[09:24] <elvar> brownedwg89 maybe i installd something wrong ?
[09:24] <loupgaroublond> done, but it's not helping
[09:24] <jsharpe> is there anyway that I can avoid the graphical installation?
[09:24] <defrysk> for example
[09:24] <dejavu_> whats new since dapper was released, I've been away
[09:25] <webfreak> jsharpe: download the alternate install cd
[09:25] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, or do you have anoter method to restart it?
[09:25] <webfreak> +image
[09:25] <ianmacgregor> jsharpe: Use the Alternate CD
[09:25] <brownedwg89> elvar: did you install anything that would use a lot of cpu?
[09:25] <totall_6_7> whyso: they could be in a couple of different places but first i would check your home directory (once you are there hit ctrl-h to view hidden files (program files))
[09:25] <jcooke> Slaj_R, are you going to be using regex in vi to do this? or an external script?
[09:25] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, the rude way is ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:25] <whyso> thanks
[09:25] <elvar> brownedwg89 all i did was setting up my video card today
[09:25] <johso> I give up. I've just reinstalled Ubuntu because I thought that an ethernet card that wasn't installed anymore was conflicting with the one installed (that, and my urge for a clean system). Well, no luck when booting the new installation. I powered off my hub and my router for a few minutes, changed my cable and tried again - no luck. Got any ideas as to what is wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
[09:25] <pettern> Hi. im having problems with Kate. It has worked fine for a long time until i suddenly couldnt write . I dont have that problem in any other programs and changing the encoding in kate doesnt seem to help at all. any suggestions?
[09:26] <elvar> nothing ells brownedwg89
[09:26] <Slaj_R> jcooke: I suppose i could do two commands.  Replace 0-8 with 0-8 plus one, and replace x9 with [x+1] 0.
[09:26] <brownedwg89> elvar: i dont know what it could be
[09:26] <elvar> !nvidia
[09:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:26] <whyso> wow didnt know all that was hidden there :)
[09:26] <Slaj_R> jcooke:  Can it be done with a single vim command?
[09:26] <totall_6_7> whyso: hehehe
[09:26] <jcooke> Slaj_R, not sure ;( not too familiar with regex in vi
[09:26] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, no dice, it won't work at all, which is strange, cause it even has the right resolution in xorg.conf
[09:26] <Slaj_R> jcooke:  Okay, thanks.  I tried searching the forums at vim.org, but for some reason their site isn't loading.
[09:27] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, set your vid driver to vesa
[09:27] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, then it should work
[09:27] <don-o> how do i fix "Could not open default font fixed" from Xorg?
[09:27] <jcooke> Slaj_R, someone in #perl might have some insight on it
[09:27] <elvar> brownedwg89 maybe i should try to unninstall nvidia-glx-dev
[09:27] <MojoWork> anyone know what package perl's HTML::Entities aka HTML/Entities.pm would be in?
[09:27] <sureshot> hey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such
[09:27] <don-o> this is immeadiately after an upgrade to Edgy
[09:27] <Zaggynl_> 'Zaggynl ##linux :Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks'
[09:27] <whyso> totall_6_7: hmmm seems beagled is failing on files with " " in them :( is there a way around this (should i make a script that replaces " " with "_"?
[09:27] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, will that give me gfx acceleration from my gma950 chip?
[09:27] <Zaggynl_> right, I can't send to the channel :/
[09:27] <whyso> id rather not have to
[09:27] <elvar> brownedwg89 couse i didnt know why i did this :(
[09:27] <elvar> brownedwg89 is it ok ?
[09:28] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, as you probably know..... nope no exel whatsoever
[09:28] <brownedwg89> elvar: you shouldnt need it, so go ahead
[09:28] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, that's not a fair answer
[09:28] <MojoWork> nm, found it using web packages search
[09:28] <elvar> brownedwg89 linux-restricted-modules-amd64-kb i dont have this package :S
[09:28] <defrysk> vesa is a generic drive
[09:28] <MojoWork> man i wish you could search package contents locally
[09:28] <totall_6_7> whyso: no clue, maybe someone else can answer that
[09:29] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, unfortunately i have no further resolution for your problem :(
[09:29] <brownedwg89> elvar: i dont know if you need that, try it if you want
[09:29] <whyso> totall_6_7: ah ok, thanks anyways!
[09:29] <whyso> does anyone know how to get beagle to work in directories with " "?
[09:29] <sureshot> hey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such
[09:29] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, oh well, it would be fair if this was another distro, just it seems like ubuntu shouldhave a better answer for that
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> MojoWork: with apt-get cache ??
[09:29] <MojoWork> TheGateKeeper: that doesn't search contents
[09:29] <MojoWork> i.e. files in the package
[09:30] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, an other person might now the answer
[09:30] <MojoWork> and dpkg can only search them for installed packages of course
[09:30] <defrysk> loupgaroublond, ask again later
[09:30] <defrysk> maybe someone else can help you
[09:30] <webfreak> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:30] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, i won't have internet later :(
[09:30] <webfreak> you can search the contents of all packages there
[09:30] <defrysk> my bad :(
[09:30] <will> hi all
[09:31] <loupgaroublond> defrysk, only if you want to accept blame for my lack of internet :P
[09:31] <will> im havin some trouble recompiling the kernel
[09:31] <MojoWork> webfreak: yeah that's how i found it. i wish you could do that locally
[09:31] <defrysk> lol loupgaroublond
[09:31] <will> 2 secs...
[09:31] <MojoWork> webfreak: w/o searching a cd of packages (assuming you can do it that way even)
[09:31] <tomaczec> hi
[09:31] <webfreak> MojoWork: sorry, i just scrolled up and saw you say that
[09:31] <ZiRo> the add user interface surely uses the terminal "adduser" right?
[09:32] <ZiRo> (it acts like a front end to the terminal based application)
[09:32] <MojoWork> meanwhile there's probably and apt/dpkg config option that lets you do that, heh
[09:32] <MojoWork> like download the entire package header
[09:32] <MojoWork> i probably just don't know it
[09:32] <LogicalDash> I want to shrink my Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu. What's some software I can use to do that without damaging Windows?
[09:33] <MojoWork> LogicalDash: OSS or pay?
[09:33] <will> im having trouble recompiling the kernel, i followed the instructions on: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=206992 (except the module patching bit) and managed to create the image and add it to grub, but when i select to load it on startup the screen just goes blank :(
[09:33] <whyso> how do i completely wipe a process? i uninstalled beagle with synaptic, and reinstalled, but it kept the old configurations and stuff
[09:33] <MojoWork> LogicalDash: cus partition magic is probably the best, but it costs money
[09:33] <whyso> package* not process
[09:33] <LogicalDash> MojoWork: I'd prefer OSS on principle
[09:33] <meatballhat9000> LogicalDash: the PerfectDisk software by Raxco has a 30-day trial.. :-)
[09:33] <MojoWork> LogicalDash: parted can do it, but not for NTFS i don't think
[09:33] <Samuli^> LogicalDash, partition manager. I wouldn't trust the ones for linux
[09:33] <meatballhat9000> LogicalDash: that's what I used - had to do 4 passes, but it did the job
[09:33] <defrysk> partition magic
[09:33] <jsharpe> is there anyway around hard drive I/O errors? -- shoudln't formatting create the filesystem around those bad sectors?
[09:33] <MojoWork> LogicalDash: often you drive comes with a CD that has a util on it that can do it
[09:33] <TheGateKeeper> MojoWork: http://linuxreviews.org/man/dpkg-deb/  <-- any use?
[09:33] <sureshot> hey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such
[09:33] <LogicalDash> meatballhat9000, what do you mean "passes"?
[09:34] <elvar> brownedwg89 i have many linux-restrickted-models  installd coudl it be the porblem?
[09:34] <brownedwg89> elvar: i dont know
[09:34] <whyso> how do you totally uninstall a package (including its configurations)
[09:34] <meatballhat9000> LogicalDash: sorry - I defragged four times to get everything smashed up to the front of the disk
[09:34] <brownedwg89> elvar: btw are you fully upgraded?
[09:34] <mikeconcepts> Need help: folks, I've spent the better part of a day trying to figure out how to create a launcher on the desktop to simply run a script to run vncviewer 192.168.0.100
[09:35] <elvar> brownedwg89 i have not upgraded couse it is so slow :(
[09:35] <elvar> it will take me many hrs
[09:35] <mikeconcepts> any links to a howto?
[09:35] <brownedwg89> elvar: so... the internets slow?
[09:35] <MojoWork> TheGateKeeper: nah, that packs and unpacks .deb files
[09:35] <defrysk> whyso, apt-get --purge
[09:35] <elvar> yeah
[09:35] <defrysk> whyso, also read man apt-get
[09:35] <elvar> but the internet is just fine
[09:35] <macographer> does anyone know what i need to do to get imagemagick working with PDFs?
[09:35] <MojoWork> TheGateKeeper: meh. nevermind. i've got bigger fish to fry ;) thanks though
[09:35] <graveson> is there a way to convert a RPM file to .deb. Lacie just announced lightscriber software that is supported in Ubuntu and provided a RPM file :( for download
[09:35] <elvar> nothing wrong with the internat
[09:36] <whyso> thanks
[09:36] <MojoWork> l8rz. thanks
[09:36] <mikeconcepts> link to a good tutorial to launch script from a launcher?
[09:36] <defrysk> graveson alien blah.rpm
[09:36] <defrysk> graveson, use with caution
[09:36] <meatballhat9000> mikeconcepts: not to detract from what you're doing, but have you tried gnomeRDP?
[09:36] <will> has anyone here had problems getting the Marvell Yukon network card to run in ubuntu 6.06?
[09:37] <will> or anyone who knows a fix
[09:37] <elvar> brownedwg89 is it ok to take a picture of my screen so i can show you .what i have installd in my synaptic package manager
[09:37] <elvar> ?
[09:37] <LimonJalisciense> i installed my printer hp but i cant make it print over the network
[09:37] <brownedwg89> elvar: well, try a "sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:37] <will> ive been forced to use windows on my laptop as the internet keeps on cutting out
[09:37] <mikeconcepts> meatballhat9000, yes, and don't like it because I have a dual monitor on the XP machine, and only vnc seems to deal with that properly
[09:37] <graveson> defrysk: can this command screw up other things or only the file i work on ?
[09:37] <brownedwg89> sure
[09:37] <LimonJalisciense> i did a thousand things
[09:37] <defrysk> graveson, it purger the package and config files
[09:37] <defrysk> purges*
[09:38] <hkais> hi
[09:38] <totall_6_7> mikeconcepts: do you know the command line in creating a launcher??
[09:38] <meatballhat9000> mikeconcepts: gotcha - that'd be an issue ;-)
[09:38] <baxter_kylie_> Hi. Having an issue with alternate cd installation erroring out. It could be one of a few points of failure that I've identified. Can anyone assist me in figuring out which pof is to blame?
[09:38] <graveson> defrysk: thanks but that sounds too risky
[09:38] <defrysk> graveson, risky , how ?
[09:39] <LimonJalisciense> ;(
[09:39] <totall_6_7> mikeconcepts: the command is: vncviewer address
[09:39] <graveson> defrysk: purges config files ? am i wrong in assuming the system config files ?
[09:39] <will> has anyone here ever recompiled the ubuntu kernel who can point me to a how to that definitely works?
[09:39] <totall_6_7> mikeconcepts: it worked for me
[09:39] <tecta> how do i add a module to autoload on boot?
[09:39] <defrysk> graveson, no only the configfiles of the package involved
[09:39] <defrysk> nothing more
[09:39] <korhalf> hey
[09:39] <baxter_kylie_> tecta: modprobe
[09:40] <korhalf> GDM is screwing up when i try to load XGL
[09:40] <korhalf> what gives
[09:40] <amayera> hi
[09:40] <tecta> baxter_kylie, autolmatically on boot
[09:40] <graveson> defrysk: ok then it is worth a try
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: did you try the cd self-test ?
[09:40] <amayera> anybody else here experiencing problems using dm-crypt and the new usplash in edgy?
[09:40] <defrysk> graveson, its pretty safe
[09:40] <will> noone here has ever recompiled the kernel?
[09:40] <baxter_kylie_> TheGateKeeper: There's a self-test? I remember the memory test...
[09:40] <defrysk> will, ne need to
[09:40] <elvar> brownedwg86 sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i did this and then asks about pass and i enter it and then it says this package will be installd and stuff ,and then asks me about wanna continue? i did "y " and then asks me about my password wierd :S?
[09:41] <etienne_> anyone uses dia here?
[09:41] <zOrK> What's the name of those screen which I saw on the startup?
[09:41] <zOrK> screensplash?
[09:41] <elvar> brownedwg86 and then i entered it  ,.and then it says abort :/
[09:41] <defrysk> elvar, do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrad
[09:41] <brownedwg89> elvar: what does it do after you say yes?
[09:41] <zOrK> it was something like that, I can't remember now.
[09:41] <defrysk> elvar, do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:41] <defrysk> sorry
[09:41] <mikeconcepts> totall_6_7, yes, my script has #!/bin/bash
[09:41] <mikeconcepts> vncviewer 192.168.0.100 and the launcher I created has the correct path to the script, and I told the launcher to run in a terminal
[09:41] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: may be my failing memory, I know there is one on the live & I thought there was also one on the alternate cd, I may have got it wrong
[09:42] <UdP> New Ubuntu User needs a bit of help
[09:42] <UdP> pleeeeeeeeease
[09:42] <defrysk> !ask
[09:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:42] <UdP> OK - basically
[09:42] <korhalf> GDM Crashing on XGL set up, i followed the guide exactly on the ubuntu wiki, NEED HELP
[09:42] <baxter_kylie_> TheGateKeeper: Not at that pc right now but I'll definately look it up. Alternately could I md5 the disc after creation? (and if so ... how? I've admittedly never used checksums)
[09:43] <UdP> ive been a complete tool - installed ubuntu a while back
[09:43] <tomaczec> elvar: the single pipe (|) wasn't this wrong? didnt you mean '||'?
[09:43] <elvar> brownedwg86 this will take for ever :(
[09:43] <UdP> forgot my username and password
[09:43] <will> well my problem is that the drivers my network card is using are faulty and I want to change them, I do hav the patch that I would normally apply to a recompile, how do I add this in. Also I think the driver i need is already included but how do i change which one the network card uses
[09:43] <brownedwg89> elvar: it takes a while...
[09:43] <UdP> how do i reinstall = not booting from cd
[09:43] <mikeconcepts> totall_6_7, tried telling the gnome-terminal to stay open after command runs, no help
[09:43] <will> are using are^
[09:43] <UdP> or is there a defualt username and password
[09:43] <baxter_kylie_> korhalf: first... which guide, please post the link.
[09:43] <will> because I think my network card is trying to use newer drivers which according to the net arent working with this card
[09:44] <elvar> brownedwg86 do you think my computer will not slow agein?
[09:44] <elvar> brownedwg86 do you know why my computer slows?
[09:44] <brownedwg89> elvar: hopefully
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: you can before, but never heard of doing it after, you could also use badblocks to make sure that you hdd is ok
[09:44] <brownedwg89> elvar: nope
[09:44] <baxter_kylie_> theGateKeeper: Badblocks??? what is this? :)
[09:44] <LogicalDash> OK, I'm back
[09:45] <totall_6_7> mikeconcepts: First why do you want it to run in terminal? I just put the command in, selected run as application, and it runs
[09:45] <korhalf> baxter_kylie, Here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28composite%29%7C%28manager%29
[09:45] <will> you know how in windows u can click on a device in the device manager and change the driver it uses... how do i do this in linux?
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: it a cli command you use to check your hard disk
[09:45] <korhalf> baxter_kylie, I did method B, followed it to a Tee
[09:45] <LogicalDash> meatballhat9000: ok, you had recommended some partitioning software to me, what was the name again?
[09:45] <mikeconcepts> totall_6_7, , perhaps that is all I need
[09:46] <totall_6_7> mikeconcepts: first try the acro KISS
[09:46] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/badblocks.8.html  e.g. badblock -v /dev/hda
[09:46] <totall_6_7> then if it doesnt work then get all techy
[09:46] <mikeconcepts> totall_6_7, totally agree
[09:46] <baxter_kylie_> theGateKeeper: I should note that the cdrw creating discs is failing, both dvd-roms on the new system are suspect for different reasons (one started having read errors in windows but appears okay in linux, one was perfect in windows but takes 20 minutes to access a disc for some strange reason in linux), and the hdd it's being installed to is a 30GB model from 2000! :-p
[09:47] <LogicalDash> Can anyone recommend some good, free partitioning software with which I can shrink my NTFS partition, leaving Windows intact?
[09:47] <baxter_kylie_> korhalf: What is your video card?
[09:47] <baxter_kylie_> logicaldash: QTPARTED
[09:47] <will> bah ill keep on trying myself and trawling thru google
[09:48] <will> cy'all
[09:48] <will> :q
[09:48] <bawnpa> UdP, when your system is booting up, before it begins loading the kernel , press a key to enter grub and then choose recovery mode
[09:48] <sheriff> would you recommend Wine to Ubuntu users?
[09:48] <UdP> sweet !
[09:48] <UdP> tyty
[09:48] <bawnpa> if there isn't a recovery mode option
[09:48] <korhalf> baxter_kylie, ATI, i installed fglrx, i did fglrxinfo to make sure
[09:48] <baxter_kylie_> sheriff: It depends on what you need? I've occasionally used it to success.
[09:48] <mikeconcepts> totall_6_7, that works, thanks man
[09:48] <bawnpa> you can press "e" inside grub and then put   init=/bin/bash  after the kernel
[09:49] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: if your cd is knackered then that won't help, you need to also make that the ntfs partition has been resized (using something gparted) to make room for linux to install, at the very least you will want a swap partition and a partition for /
[09:49] <Zaggynl_> this is really weird, any 3d app I run hicks and stutters
[09:49] <sheriff> wel have you ever used it with Beryl-Xgl?
[09:49] <Zaggynl_> glxgears for instance
[09:49] <totall_6_7> mikeconcepts: your welcome, thanks for letting me know
[09:49] <bawnpa> or perhaps single or singleuser,   but i think there is a "recovery mode" option you can pick
[09:49] <Zaggynl_> 23868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4773.481 FPS with a gf6600gt ?!
[09:49] <sheriff> baxter-kyliewel have you ever used it with Beryl-Xgl?
[09:49] <bawnpa> you then need to  type cat /etc/passwd |more and look through there to see the name you recognize as your username
[09:49] <sheriff> baxter-kylie : have you ever used it with Beryl-Xgl?
[09:49] <johso> eureka! I've just found out that I can ping google.com's ip address (66.249.85.99) - but I can't ping (or access via a browser) www.google.com - does anybody know how to solve this problem?
[09:49] <LogicalDash> baxter_kylie_: I need something that I can use without installing Linux first, cause right now I only have WinXP and no real way to reinstall it in a partition.
[09:50] <bawnpa> then you can change your password by typing passwd username, and then reboot by typing shutdown -r now
[09:50] <bawnpa> where username is the name of your user account
[09:50] <baxter_kylie_> TheGateKeeper: Hah. No no. This is definately not a dual boot. Those days are long behind me. I'm building a mythbox out of old parts for my mother's birthday. I've got plenty of room. The installation gets to around the 75% mark of the additional software components and then craps out. It's never /exactly/ on the same spot when it craps out but always near that 75% spot.
[09:51] <TheGateKeeper> LogicalDash: use the gparted livecd or similar http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:51] <cakruege2> re
[09:51] <korhalf> baxter_kylie, ATI, i installed fglrx, i did fglrxinfo to make sure the drivers were correct
[09:52] <cakruege2> i've a question regarding textmode install of 6.06.1
[09:52] <baxter_kylie_> LogicalDash: Or the qtparted live cd or a knoppix cd will also have qt parted on it. As a rule I try to always have at least one knoppix cd around for emergencies.
[09:52] <cakruege2> anybody here that like to answer ?
[09:52] <baxter_kylie_> sherriff: can't say that I have, Sorry.
[09:52] <LogicalDash> TheGateKeeper: So, you're sure that shrinking the partition with this won't break Windows? I tried doing this with the Ubuntu install CD once and it didn't work out.
[09:52] <der0b> !ask
[09:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: could be your dodgy burner or something wrong with the hdd, badblocks will let you eliminate the hdd
[09:52] <sheriff> well has anybody tried Wine with beryl-xgl?
[09:53] <bawnpa> i've used cedega on it sheriff
[09:53] <baxter_kylie_> korhalf: Err. Don't know what to tell you there. Sorry about that. It seems pretty straightforward.
[09:53] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:53] <whyso> i did sudo apt=get --purge remove beagle but its config is still there!
[09:53] <cakruege2> I've installed ubuntu in text mode, installed grub to bootsector of the harddisk, reboot, started the grub in bootsector but the install didn't continue, only bashprompt
[09:53] <whyso> apt-get*
[09:53] <cakruege2> ideas?
[09:54] <korhalf> baxter_kylie, of course it is, the fact is GDM crashes now and keeps flickering
[09:54] <korhalf> baxter_kylie, to some blue screen of death kind of, telling me its configured wrong though i know its right
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> LogicalDash: it should do the job, there are others as well if you feel more comfortable using them, make sure you backup everything first, other alternative is to buy another hdd & install a caddy system that is what I do
[09:54] <whyso> is the snytax right? : sudo apt-get ==purge remove beagle
[09:55] <baxter_kylie_> TheGateKeeper: Badblocks indeed. That's ultimately very useful. Here's hoping it's not one of the dvd-roms.
[09:55] <LogicalDash> thanks guys
[09:55] <baxter_kylie_> TheGateKeeper: Many thanks.
[09:56] <baxter_kylie_> korhalf: Have you gotten it to work under one of the other methods?
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: from what you have told me my money is on your dodgy dvd or cd burner
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: np & good luck :-)
[09:56] <LjL> whyso, no, use -, not =
[09:57] <cakruege2> any ideas why the installer didn't continue?
[09:57] <whyso> yeah that was typo, used - in the terminal tho
[09:57] <whyso> sudo apt-get --purge remove beagle, and its directory is still there :(
[09:58] <LjL> whyso, --purge only removes systemwide configuration files. if you have a config directory that is *inside your home directory*, purge won't touch it
[09:58] <LjL> whyso, also, the directory might be left there but empty. check that
[09:58] <baxter_kylie_> theGateKeeper: Hehe. Yes. If only amd would get their act together quicker on that integrated video/cpu I'd replace the whole laptop and get a new drive in that but as-is I've a while to make this 2002 clunker still work.
[09:59] <TheGateKeeper> baxter_kylie_: :-)
[09:59] <whyso> LjL: it left stuff like the text cache and config, :(
[09:59] <whyso> what i was trying to get rid of
[09:59] <LjL> whyso: which are located in your home directory, or not?
[09:59] <whyso> is there a way to revert it all to the freshly installed state?
[09:59] <LjL> not any kind of automated way
[10:00] <tabasko> hi all
[10:01] <whyso> yup
[10:01] <capashen> hi !
[10:01] <tabasko> i have problems with pypanel and obconf, cant get them run under edgy
[10:01] <capashen> can someone tell me who to mount a cd who is protected (heroes 5 for exemple)
[10:01] <LjL> whyso: well if they're in your home dir, just remove manually. well, take care that you aren't removing anything else that *is* needed... but if you just have a directory called, say, ".beagle", and you want to get rid of any beagle-related stuff, then go for it
[10:02] <whyso> LjL: thanks! was sorried that might mess up a reinstall but now i know its k
[10:03] <macographer> has anyone gotten ImageMagick to work with PDFs on Ubuntu?
[10:03] <arne__> someone who knows how to fix a "broken" X?
[10:03] <macographer> i installed the basic package with apt-get but it doesn't like them
[10:03] <defrysk> arne__, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:04] <SuperMiguel> is Jinzora better than gnump3d???
[10:05] <arne__> defrysk: thx
[10:05] <mbb> will there be another beta release before official Edgy?
[10:05] <|thunder> !fixmbr
[10:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <fdoving> mbb: there will be a RC tomorrow.
[10:06] <|thunder> !fixwinmbr
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixwinmbr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <cakruege2> I've installed ubuntu in text mode, installed grub to bootsector of the harddisk, reboot, started the grub in bootsector but the install didn't continue, only bashprompt. any ideas how to continue setup`?
[10:06] <fdoving> !fixmbr
[10:06] <fdoving> |thunder: what are you looking for?
[10:06] <ZiRo> I've changed the settings of adduser, however adding a user via the User and Groups negates any settings change, are these setting different to adduser - i thought it ran off-of adduser?
[10:07] <|thunder> how to fix the windows mbr on a xp drive. without nix or grub
[10:07] <acuster> there's a dos command
[10:07] <LjL> |thunder: you can use a Windows XP recovery disc
[10:07] <LjL> |thunder: get into console mode, and use the fixmbr command
[10:07] <sheriff> does wine work with gnome
[10:07] <acuster> better yet listen to LjL
[10:07] <|thunder> sheriff; yep
[10:07] <|thunder> LjL; thanks.
[10:08] <defrysk> sheriff, wine works but better to find windows replacement apps in linux
[10:08] <Xac> is there a gui for configureing wlan with wpa?
[10:08] <Mattwj2005> I am trying my first gentoo stage1 install
[10:08] <Mattwj2005> hopefully I configured everything right :)
[10:09] <profoX`> How can I initiate Hibernate from terminal ?
[10:09] <|thunder> LjL; do you know the proper dos flags to recursivly copy everyfile from the root of a drive over to another drive once the partition is setup ? I cant use nix like I would like to because the target drive is NTFS
[10:09] <LjL> profoX`: i usually did /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh -- however i'm not entirely sure that initiates the same sequence that a hibernate from Gnome or KDE does
[10:09] <defrysk> sheriff, http://librenix.com/?inode=6699
[10:09] <sheriff> defrysk : is it better than wine?
[10:10] <defrysk> sheriff, much better
[10:10] <LjL> |thunder, no, i don't, but typing "copy /?" should tell you...
[10:10] <defrysk> what windows app do you want to use ?
[10:10] <sheriff> games
[10:10] <|thunder> LjL; good lookin' out. thanks again
[10:10] <sheriff> most of them r games
[10:10] <|thunder> sheriff; wine for non directX games. cedega for DX GAMES
[10:10] <defrysk> sheriff, well then you might need wine/cedega
[10:11] <greguti> hi all
[10:11] <|thunder> i found cedega on torrent sites
[10:11] <scoates> I'm having a problem with apt and LC_ALL -- http://phpfi.com/165162 -- any ideas? (this is after a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy)
[10:11] <sheriff> defrysk : ok thanks
[10:11] <LjL> |thunder, Cedega is commercial software. you should not be talking about piracy in here, so please don't
[10:11] <sureshot> hey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such
[10:11] <greguti> got a trouble with Beryl on Edgy Beta, on an ASUS laptop with an intel i945 graphical card
[10:12] <|thunder> greguti; try #beryl
[10:12] <LjL> !edgy > scoates
[10:12] <crocd> |thunder: does it work?
[10:12] <sureshot> |thunder it is 15 us for a subscription
[10:12] <cakruege2>  I've installed ubuntu in text mode, installed grub to bootsector of the harddisk, reboot, started the grub in bootsector but the install didn't continue, only bashprompt. any ideas how to continue setup`?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> greguti: #ubuntu-xgl also
[10:12] <ZiRo> is anyone prepared to help me? i've stated my problem twice and no-one has given it any notice..
[10:12] <|thunder> crocd; does what work ?
[10:12] <greguti> ok thanks (my trouble: video are black, i hear the sound and when i move it i see the images, but otherwise it stays all black)
[10:13] <ZiRo> I've changed the settings of adduser, however adding a user via the User and Groups negates any settings change, are these config settings different to adduser? - i thought it ran off-of adduser?
[10:13] <scoates> LjL: thanks
[10:13] <LjL> cakruege2: does it start in single user or multi user mode?
[10:13] <|thunder> it didnt work on the game I wanted to play, so that would have been a waste of money anyways.
[10:14] <tecta> hmm i installed totem-xine-firefox-plugin and it plays movies from firefox but the sound is just static
[10:14] <cakruege2> @LjL: i'm not sure. i get a bash-login prompt and I can enter as root without password
[10:14] <sureshot> |thunder there is a lot of settings that you can change and a lot of versions of the engine it uses
[10:14] <LjL> cakruege2: sounds like single user mode... but you *were* asked for a password (well, user password, not root password) during install, weren't you?
[10:14] <tuck3r> what makes nano delete characters backwards ?
[10:15] <cakruege2> No i wasn't asked, the setup didn't continue. that is my problem.
[10:15] <LjL> cakruege2: ah, you didn't say that, you said you installed and then rebooted... mind you, the setup normally does *not* ask you to reboot. or rather, when it does, it means the system has *finished* installing and will then boot normally
[10:16] <ZiRo> tuck3r: insert?
[10:16] <cakruege2> mmh, setup has rebooted after installing grub to /dev/hda3, no other questions
[10:16] <LjL> cakruege2: so, why did you reboot? were you asked to? were you put into the menu of choices for some reason? (you know, the menu that appears when some passage of the installation fails)
[10:17] <LjL> cakruege2: i see. did it tell you that it was going to reboot?
[10:17] <sureshot> hey all my pc is dual booted with xp and dapper 32 bit.. if i attach a sata to usb converter with a 250gb drive and load edgy how will grub react when the drive is not there and such
[10:17] <cakruege2> no, i've seen no special message (maybe it was to quick)
[10:17] <LjL> cakruege2: it should last about 15 seconds and then reboot automatically IIRC
[10:17] <defrysk> sureshot, grub wont react fstab will probably
[10:18] <cakruege2> maybe i missed it because i was away
[10:18] <LjL> cakruege2: can't you install from the Desktop CD anyway?
[10:18] <sureshot> defrysk what do you mean by that i am new here but know a little
[10:18] <SuperMiguel> can any boddy read this?
[10:18] <cakruege2> I can't do an install from livesystem because than I cant choose to not write grub to MBR
[10:19] <IcemanV9> yes SuperMiguel
[10:19] <defrysk> ftab wil check for files and boot will halt whebn the usbrelated suff is not there you need to hit enter then to continue boot
[10:19] <gnomefreak> SuperMiguel: yes
[10:19] <SuperMiguel> which media server is better Jinzora or gnump3d???
[10:20] <defrysk> sureshot, I think thats about it
[10:20] <LjL> cakruege2: ah, so when you said you wrote grub to the "bootsector of the hard disk", you actually meant of the partition...?  anyway, well, i'm not sure. i suppose i'd just install again and follow what's going on closely
[10:20] <arabian> dos ubuntu have xgl and aiglx ?
[10:20] <baxter_kylie_> arabian: The next release will.
[10:20] <LjL> SuperMiguel: i see gnump3d packaged in the official repositories, while i don't see jinzora. so for that alone, i'd choose the former...
[10:20] <sureshot> defrysk thanks did not want to mess up my laptop it is running smooth with dapper did not know how that would react .. this converter i have will cannect any sata drive to the usb it is sweet
[10:20] <erUSUL> arabian: in edgy afaik
[10:20] <Xac> how can i install some packages on a box that has noc inet connecteion atm
[10:20] <baxter_kylie_> arabian: currently it's available via patches
[10:21] <defrysk> sureshot, Its what happens in my opinion
[10:21] <defrysk> sureshot, for the rest there is only one way to find out
[10:21] <sureshot> defrysk as long as i can continue that is the key
[10:21] <arabian> baxter_kylie, can i patch it easy ?
[10:21] <defrysk> sureshot, I think you can
[10:22] <defrysk> sureshot, again in my opinion
[10:22] <defrysk> dont shoot me if i'm wrong
[10:22] <_fred> hi im running ubuntu on a low spec box, it keeps timing out all connections because its becoming busy around this time each day - how can i check which system crons run daily?
[10:23] <SuperMiguel> there is any to purge a server with its original values?
[10:23] <jewbilee> can anyone recommend some good network games for linux?
[10:23] <arabian> baxter_kylie_, can i patch it easy ?
[10:23] <jewbilee> for ubuntu more specifically
[10:23] <fdoving> _fred: take a look in /etc/cron.daily/ and /etc/cron.d/
[10:24] <SuperMiguel>  there is any to purge a server with its original values? like unistan everything that i installed on it?
[10:24] <baxter_kylie_> arabian: It take ssome work. There are how-tos all over the wiki
[10:24] <LjL> _fred: possibly you can cat /var/log/syslog | grep CRON
[10:24] <Spec> _fred: also check out /etc/crontab
[10:24] <Spec> _fred: might as well look in /var/spool/cron as well
[10:24] <zorkk> Can I open my linux's files on windows?
[10:25] <SuperMiguel> zorkk: yes
[10:25] <utnubu> zorkk, wine
[10:25] <Spec> zorkk: probably
[10:25] <jewbilee> anyone know any good network games for ubuntu?
[10:25] <defrysk> zorkk, there are ext3 apps for windows
[10:25] <_fred> Oct 18 21:23:38 woggis kernel: [134018.865651]  hda: lost interrupt
[10:25] <Spec> jewbilee: bzFlag
[10:25] <_fred> bad HD?
[10:25] <sureshot> defrysk i wont i will just ask how to fix it LOL you can always go into the safe option and reset things can you not
[10:25] <zorkk> defrysk  where can I find some docs?
[10:25] <jewbilee> what kinda game is that?
[10:25] <bluefox83> jewbilee, what doi you mean, network games?
[10:25] <Spec> !info bzflag
[10:25] <ubotu> bzflag: a 3D first person tank battle game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.20051017ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 10166 kB, installed size 13412 kB
[10:25] <jewbilee> like
[10:25] <jewbilee> only games
[10:25] <jewbilee> online*
[10:25] <jewbilee> lol..
[10:25] <defrysk> zorkk, google for it
[10:25] <Spec> it's an online game.... bzFlag is the best
[10:25] <jewbilee> alright
[10:25] <jewbilee> do a lot of people play it
[10:25] <hmrocha> hello
[10:26] <defrysk> zorkk, easyer is it to make a vfat partition witch can be read by linux and windows no prob
[10:26] <hmrocha> how can i replace the xorg.conf when creating a livecd?
[10:28] <ianmacgregor> Can someone tell me what that bottom bar is at: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=30972&file1=30972-1.jpg&file2=&file3=30972-3.jpg&name=T-ish-Brushed+Pack
[10:28] <ianmacgregor> Is that in the repos?
[10:29] <talisein> looks like one of the elightenment 17 widgets
[10:29] <m-o-r-i-z> hello, anyone knows when the official release of "edgy eft" is ?
[10:29] <talisein> google for e17 or enlightenment.org
[10:29] <talisein> !schedule
[10:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:29] <ianmacgregor> talisein: Yes, but you can see from the top bar that he is using gnome
[10:30] <talisein> enlightenment is more then just a window manager
[10:30] <m-o-r-i-z> thanx ubotu
[10:30] <jewbilee> i love ubuntu
[10:30] <jewbilee> lol..
[10:31] <defrysk> i love my wife
[10:31] <defrysk> I use ubuntu
[10:31] <defrysk> :/
[10:31] <jewbilee> i love your wife too ;)
[10:31] <defrysk> some frefer the other way around
[10:31] <jewbilee> hahah, just playing
[10:32] <defrysk> prefer
[10:32] <tabasko> so there is no pypanel users with edgy?  :(
[10:32] <Xappe> ianmacgregor: I think that's an ordinary big sized gnome panel at the bottom...
[10:33] <ianmacgregor> Xappe: I was just thinking that because of the "grabbers" on the ends
[10:33] <tabasko> I have pypanel installed, but still it gives : command not found
[10:33] <Xappe> ianmacgregor: yep, I have something similar on my desktop
[10:33] <defrysk> Xappe, I agree with some exotic Icon theme
[10:33] <tabasko> and, thats odd :o
[10:34] <sureshot> defrysk i just talked to someone on the edgy channel they said that the fstap and such is on the mbr of the usb drive all will work fine
[10:34] <mwe> command not found? python is not found?
[10:34] <mwe> that would be really odd
[10:34] <defrysk> sureshot, good :)
[10:34] <gnomefreak> tabasko: how are you running it?
[10:34] <sureshot> defrysk just thought i would let you know
[10:34] <wiz> is it possible to make it so a mounted ntfs part is accessable by users other than root?
[10:34] <noob1> ok im new to the linx system im trying to load java but i get the manual install and i dont know what i click to get it plz help
[10:35] <tabasko> gnomefreak, via command "pypanel"
[10:35] <noob1> i dont know what file type
[10:35] <IcemanV9> !java > noob1
[10:35] <jewbilee> !java > jewbilee
[10:36] <noob1> ty
[10:36] <defrysk> I thought you had the mbr on the disk of your laptop , but i guess you boot from usb when using edgy sureshot
[10:36] <Xappe> ianmacgregor: this is how mine looks --> http://www.delta.se/~jon/Screenshot-20.png
[10:36] <defrysk> then it should work fine indeed
[10:36] <wiz> anyone know?
[10:37] <talisein> wiz: try mounting with the users option
[10:37] <gnomefreak> tabasko: that doesnt seem to be the command to run for it i would look in the files to find out how (man page maybe)
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> Xappe: Nice
[10:37] <ianmacgregor> Xappe: May I pm you?
[10:38] <Xappe> ianmacgregor: sure
[10:38] <defrysk> wiz, sudo chown -hR <username> /whatever/
[10:38] <GhostFreeman> I need an /etc/fstab line that'll mount my Windows (NTFS) partition at /dev/sdb2 for read-only purposes to all users. Anyone care to provide?
[10:38] <talisein> defrysk: that won't work if the ntfs is mounted read only
[10:38] <defrysk> chmod it then
[10:38] <gnomefreak> tabasko: man page is no help btw :(
[10:38] <defrysk> man chmod
[10:38] <talisein> wiz: acutally you need to use the uid option at mount time
[10:39] <wiz> talisein, how?
[10:39] <talisein> wiz: lemme doublecheck something
[10:39] <wiz> talisein, mount -O uid /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win ?
[10:39] <talisein> no
[10:39] <mwe> umask=0222
[10:39] <talisein> yeah
[10:39] <mwe> that will work for mount
[10:40] <talisein> mount -o umask=0222 /mnt/win
[10:40] <talisein> !umask
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <wiz> aha
[10:40] <talisein> !chmod
[10:40] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:40] <wiz> talisein, thanks, how do I add that to fstab with the same option?
[10:41] <tabasko> gnomefreak, yep :/
[10:41] <jewbilee> can someone help me install a .jar file?
[10:41] <mwe> you can't chmod/chown files on an ro mounted fs
[10:41] <gnomefreak> tabasko: im reading the config giles to see if it says anything
[10:41] <mazsola> hi all
[10:41] <jewbilee> im a little confused on how to do it
[10:41] <whyso> sry offtopic but in hury for takehome exam: in java will int+double produce an error?
[10:41] <talisein> wiz: after filesystem type, the other entries probably have "defaults" just put a comma and umash=0222
[10:41] <jewbilee> whyso: no
[10:41] <wiz> talisein, thanks
[10:41] <talisein> err, umask
[10:41] <whyso> ty
[10:41] <jewbilee> the result will be a double
[10:41] <L3TUC3> my laptop stopped booting in fullscreen
[10:42] <bluefox83> O.o
[10:42] <PacketScan> o.0
[10:42] <talisein> in C/C++, it won't produce an error.
[10:42] <talisein> it matters by language though
[10:42] <L3TUC3> any way to get it back?
[10:43] <talisein> L3TUC3: fullscreen? like the usplash..?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> tabasko: i have it in my debian menu in ubuntu but its borked it dont open :(
[10:43] <lupine_85> !info rutilt
[10:43] <ubotu> Package rutilt does not exist in any distro I know
[10:44] <L3TUC3> talisein, the dell bios splash, the POST stuff etc are in 640-480 centered
[10:44] <tabasko> gnomefreak, yes.. so this might be broken package
[10:44] <L3TUC3> the login screen woks fine
[10:44] <ripper> i upgraded from dapper to edgy and now nautilus wont start, i've tried to get the system back to dapper w/o any luck, anyone got any ideas? i dont want to reinstall, and i know this is fixable.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> tabasko: im not able to test it on dapper for a while
[10:44] <Guest34377> what's the difference between http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ and http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ ?
[10:45] <talisein> L3TUC3: the pretty brown Ubuntu w/ the startup messages, right? Instead you're just presented with scrolling text? Take a look at the output of 'dmesg' and see if there's any obvious errors
[10:45] <Guest34377> which one should i download?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Guest34377: nothing
[10:45] <talisein> Guest34377: they are the same ^^
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Guest34377: doesnt matter
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Guest34377: as long as you download the right image
[10:46] <RancidLM> kinda off topic but i have a main PC.. and a laptop and both check multiple email pop accounts is there a way where i can have them both see the same email? would sharing the mbox files work or would i need a exchange server type thing going/
[10:46] <talisein> ripper: can you open a terminal at all?
[10:46] <ripper> yes.
[10:46] <ripper> i've tried changing source.list back to dapper
[10:46] <ripper> didnt work
[10:46] <Guest34377> gnomefreak: ok, then why r guys wasting disk space if it's all the same?
[10:46] <talisein> ripper: you might want to go to #ubuntu+1 actually. But anyways, in the terminal try to run nautilus and see what the error code is.
[10:47] <ripper> talisein hang on
[10:47] <talisein> changing the source list backwards is usually not going to work
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Guest34377: im not wasting disk space and i dont know why there are 2 open
[10:47] <jewbilee> can someone tell me where JDK installs to?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> there is no safe way to downgrade ubuntu
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !downgrade
[10:47] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:47] <strabes> hello eveyone
[10:47] <comtechsystems> hi, anyone been having lots of Xorg freezes with edgy?
[10:48] <talisein> no
[10:48] <L3TUC3> talisein, no the ubuntu stuff is there but it's small and centered (not full screen), there's no errors
[10:48] <talisein> maybe with compiz
[10:48] <shwag> i need some more artwork
[10:48] <lupine_85> RancidLM: change to IMAP if yopu can
[10:48] <lupine_85> you*
[10:49] <talisein> L3TUC3: like this? http://www.zdnet.com.au/shared/images/news/ubuntu/bootscreen.gif
[10:49] <lupine_85> edgy X freezes are apparently a kernel thing - I've been running my own custom one, so haven't noticed ;
[10:49] <lupine_85> ;)
[10:49] <ripper> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BKg8ju48.html @ talisein
[10:49] <LjL> !edgy > comtechsystems
[10:49] <comtechsystems> lupine_85: any idea what causes it?
[10:50] <L3TUC3> talisein, yes but the ubuntu loading bar is really small
[10:50] <L3TUC3> +text
[10:50] <talisein> ripper: change your source list back to edgy, aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade. Use aptitude not apt-get, and reboot.
[10:50] <lupine_85> comtechsystems: nope
[10:50] <jewbilee> can someone tell em where Sun JDK 5 installs to?
[10:50] <IcemanV9> jewbilee: whereis java
[10:50] <jewbilee> huh?
[10:50] <talisein> L3TUC3: did you recently upgrade to dapper..?
[10:51] <IcemanV9> jewbilee: in the terminal, type whereis java
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jewbilee: locate java
[10:51] <talisein> !usplash >talisein
[10:51] <SebSebSeb> Hi
[10:51] <L3TUC3> talisein, I had dapper on it before but wiped it and started fresh for Xgl + bery
[10:51] <L3TUC3> i started doing this this morning
[10:51] <L3TUC3> the dell boot splash is tiny too
[10:52] <L3TUC3> (dell laptop)
[10:52] <rooob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27268/ <-- this is the error message i get during dist-upgrade, anyone have ANY suggestions on how to get around it? i've tried -f install etc.. no luck.. my system is stuck
[10:52] <talisein> L3TUC3: oO. The BIOS splash is different suddenly? Have you been changing things in the bios?
[10:52] <SebSebSeb> I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy Intenret updates,  and my Gnome menu is screwed up,  loasd of programs that should be listed not their,  take for example Office it only has Evolution, and Open Office Writer,  what's the comamnd that I need to access the menu editor,  or whatever?  I need to do to fix this problem.
[10:53] <joseph> help with cisco 350 wireless
[10:53] <joseph> any1
[10:53] <talisein> !usplash >L3TUC3
[10:53] <joseph> mainly not getting IP address
[10:53] <SeanTater> rooob: if you are /really/ desperate, you could tro moving that file, but I'm not sure hat effect that might have
[10:53] <talisein> Use those customization instructoons to change the resolution (step 6) to something bigger (or smaller)
[10:53] <rooob> SeanTater: i did try that.. it diddnt change anything
[10:53] <crocd> joseph: mainly?
[10:54] <talisein> I don't know what to say about the BIOS splash being different. ;)
[10:54] <L3TUC3> talisein, nope didnt do anything in the bios
[10:54] <ompaul> SebSebSeb, go to #ubuntu+1 please
[10:54] <sjbrown> anyone know a quick way to pretty-ify xml?
[10:54] <Noob1> ok i need help now
[10:54] <crocd> joseph: what does happen then
[10:54] <ompaul> it ain't released for a couple more days
[10:54] <joseph> well crocd I have managed to get it to work at times by a series of ifup / down
[10:54] <SebSebSeb> ospual:  is that a new channel?
[10:54] <mirro-irc> how to install compiz on ubuntu?
[10:54] <ripper> talisein why aptitude?
[10:54] <ompaul> mirro-irc, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:55] <ZaraxZ> Hi!
[10:55] <crocd> joseph: then what happens
[10:55] <L3TUC3> talisein, it just stopped scaling fullscreen all of a sudden
[10:55] <ompaul> SebSebSeb, well it is about ohh 10 months old at this stage
[10:55] <ZaraxZ> i really need some help!
[10:55] <joseph> the card was working fine in breezy but not since dapper
[10:55] <talisein> ripper: it has a little bit more robust dependancy resolution. I think you're getting an error because different parts of GNOME are working under different ABI versions
[10:55] <Phlogiston> anyone knows if its possible to sync the calender of a sonyEricsson mobile phone with korganizer?
[10:55] <IcemanV9> !compiz > mirro-irc
[10:55] <joseph> i have several cards so it is not the card
[10:55] <talisein> ripper: the command line options are the same as apt-get, so its an easy transition
[10:55] <Noob1> i cant figure out how to load the java now that i have it.  i dubble click it and i get Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb"
[10:55] <Noob1> Archive type not supported.
[10:56] <IcemanV9> ZaraxZ: just state the problem/question plse
[10:56] <joseph> after the ifup it does not get assigned  an IP via DHCP
[10:56] <jewbilee> ok, im having some problems installing blue j because i cant find the JDK dirrectory
[10:56] <joseph> i get No DHCPOFFERS received.
[10:56] <crocd> do you have multiple cards on one system joseph
[10:56] <ZaraxZ> !!! I have installet ubuntu on my laptop and when i try to log in i cant!! is says wrong username or password! Can i make a new user from recovery mode??!!!
[10:57] <La_PaRCa> Noob1, why dont you use the java from the repositories?
[10:57] <joseph> not at the same time
[10:57] <Jowi> ZaraxZ, yes you can
[10:57] <ZaraxZ> how?
[10:57] <talisein> L3TUC3: ubuntu can't really modify your BIOS behavior, so I can't help you there
[10:57] <crocd> joseph: what card is it?
[10:57] <Noob1> i cant figure out how to load the java now that i have it.  i dubble click it and i get Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb" Archive type not supported. how do i install this
[10:57] <Jowi> ZaraxZ, "adduser myusername"
[10:57] <joseph> Cisco Aironet 350
[10:57] <iXce> long live Feisty Fawn!
[10:57] <ompaul> ZaraxZ, use recovery mode, then (A) cat /etc/passwd and see the username in that then (B) do >>passwd username<< (C) reboot and log in
[10:58] <La_PaRCa> Noob1, use the java from the repositories
[10:58] <L3TUC3> talisein, I think I might've broken my graphics card then
[10:58] <crocd> wireless card then? hmm is your wireless signal stable?
[10:58] <meatballhat9000> the grouches over at ##php care not for my Apache/PHP problems - anybody know about how to correct the "download this file?" problem (php not parsing)?
[10:58] <Noob1> i used the java off of your site and it dose not work
[10:58] <L3TUC3> because it does the same thing with video playback, refusing to resize the video
[10:58] <talisein> L3TUC3: if you get the GDM login screen I'd think your graphics card is fine
[10:58] <joseph> yes the wireless association is stable
[10:59] <IcemanV9> Noob1: in the terminal, type sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jdk
[10:59] <joseph> the router is merely a few metres away
[10:59] <crocd> joseph: it might be driver related is it a 64bit system?
[10:59] <joseph> no
[11:00] <joseph> the h/w is an Asus L3500H
[11:00] <fliegenderfrosch> Ubuntu 7.04 - The Feisty Fawn is announced! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-October/000212.html
[11:00] <shwag> how do I make a desktop video demonstration
[11:00] <shwag> ?
[11:00] <joseph> I can confirm that if I go back to breezy every thing works
[11:00] <Noob1> ty
[11:00] <shwag> on my right hand screen...the cursor seems to go below the border of the screen...as if the right side screen is the same size of my large left side screen.
[11:01] <joseph> beyond dapper it doesn't , I have even tried 6.10 and the same
[11:01] <ZaraxZ> Thank you Jowi and ompaul!!!
[11:01] <ZaraxZ> Will not forget it!
[11:01] <crocd> joseph: then i think it is driver related to that card or even kernel issue, have you compiled your own kernel?
[11:01] <joseph> no I am using vanilla 6.06
[11:01] <IcemanV9> Noob1: if you follow the !java instruction, then java would be installed and running on your box ;)
[11:01] <Noob1> well i have to get off that chat
[11:01] <Noob1> lol
[11:02] <crocd> try compiling your own kernel. itm ight be due to that
[11:02] <Jowi> np Zajjko
[11:02] <Noob1> my cuzen whanted the computor
[11:02] <Jowi> np ZaraxZ  even
[11:02] <joseph> crocd how do I go about that
[11:02] <IcemanV9> ZaraxZ: enjoy your new Ubuntu! :)
[11:03] <crocd> go to ubuntu website help for that, they instructions are fairl;y good. I haveto go I have a early start tomorrow
[11:03] <sharperguy> argh, why wont amarok play streams anymore, it used to work fine
[11:04] <crocd> joseph: read throught the notes at least twice before doing it. the process has many steps and if you miss something out you can cause problems.
[11:04] <talisein> i hate wireless
[11:05] <crocd> talisein: wireless works fine, i have a 3com pcmcia adaptor that worked fine with ubuntu
[11:05] <Noob1> IcemanV9, i have installed it but firefox still says its not instaled
[11:05] <IcemanV9> talisein: still have a problem with wireless? ;)
[11:05] <rooob> To all who might have looked at my pastebin and wondered what would fix.. sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb   did the trick :)
[11:06] <BrMiHi08> hi
[11:06] <talisein> eh, I just use my box of 1000 ft of cat 5 cable :)
[11:06] <BrMiHi08> I am in need of some help...
[11:06] <jewbilee> i want 1000 ft of cat 5 cabling :(
[11:07] <talisein> costs like $30 if you shop around
[11:07] <IcemanV9> hm, wireless or 1000 ft of cable ??
[11:07] <Noob1> IcemanV9: i have installed it but firefox still says its not instaled
[11:08] <IcemanV9> Noob1: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin (it's for firefox java plugin)
[11:08] <BrMiHi08> I recently got a new wireless card for my computer and linux picks it up, my only problem is I do not know how to give it a name like my current one which is wlan0 does anyone know how?
[11:08] <BrMiHi08> I and been searching a lot..
[11:08] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[11:08] <Noob1> ty
[11:08] <chopchop_> hi, i run amarok and mplayer at the same time under xfce and when i tried to gain the volume in amarok, the sound suddenly turned off, and even after i restarted the box, it's still off. Any help???
[11:09] <talisein> chopchop_: in a terminal run to run alsamixer and see if things are muted or turned down
[11:09] <IcemanV9> BrMiHi08: i don't think you can give it another name .. just go wireless and enjoy n surf the net!
[11:09] <talisein> I suppose you could also doubleclick the speaker icon
[11:09] <chopchop_> talisein: tried, i turn everything but no use
[11:09] <crochat> Hello !
[11:09] <BrMiHi08> IcemanV9 when the new card is the only card it won't let me configure anything
[11:10] <talisein> chopchop_: turn off your speakers, unplug them, wait 10 seconds then plug them back in
[11:10] <BrMiHi08> my current card is the one that has been here since the install
[11:10] <chopchop_> talisein:
[11:10] <chopchop_> talisein: ok
[11:10] <IcemanV9> BrMiHi08: iwconfig or ifconfig wlan0
[11:10] <crochat> Does anybody know if partimage (client) is already on the Ubuntu Dapper CD ?
[11:10] <meatballhat9000> anybody know where to find Apache's error log in Ubuntu's file tree? (and no... I don't know Linux all too well)
[11:11] <bobby_> meatballhat9000: /var/log/apache2
[11:11] <crochat> meatballhat9000: /var/log/apache2
[11:11] <meatballhat9000> Thanks!!!
[11:11] <brettm> /var/log/apache2/
[11:11] <brettm> ;-)
[11:11] <ZaraxZ> another question: IS there an easy way to get internet going on my laptop (thinkpad a21m)
[11:11] <IcemanV9> crochat: no, it is in universe repo
[11:11] <crochat> IcemanV9: Aarg...
[11:12] <Noob1> hum its still not working (here comes a noob question) can u play runescape on linux
[11:12] <crochat> IcemanV9: Is there a partimage recovery CD based on the Ubuntu kernel ?
[11:12] <brettm> IcemanV9: just use the live cd
[11:12] <brettm> IcemanV9:and fire up gparted
[11:12] <jamtastic> I found a bug in apt-proxy - what should I do?
[11:12] <brettm> whoops I meant crochat
[11:12] <ZaraxZ> http://www.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/thinkpad/tpa21m/ i cant understad it but can some1 please help me?
[11:12] <chopchop_> talisein: still nothing
[11:13] <IcemanV9> crochat: partimage is not part of kernel by default (livecd or not)
[11:13] <crochat> brettm: gparted will not be able to restore my partitions, will it ?
[11:13] <talisein> chopchop_: hmm..
[11:13] <Tomcat_> ZaraxZ: It has intel integrated lan... why shouldn't it work?
[11:13] <jewbilee> !mp3 > jewbilee
[11:13] <IcemanV9> Noob1: did you restart the firefox?
[11:14] <Tomcat_> ZaraxZ: The driver has been in Linux for ages, so all you need to do it configure the network the way it is on other PCs on your network.
[11:14] <Noob1> ues i closed out and reopend
[11:14] <Noob1> *ya
[11:14] <ZaraxZ> Tomcat_: but it cant findmy network device!
[11:14] <doomz> hi, can any one help me with ubuntu installation ? I bought a new machine and it hangs during the boot cd loading.
[11:14] <chopchop_> talisein: ???
[11:15] <BrMiHi08> IcemanV9 - what file does that iwconfig pull up?
[11:15] <Tomcat_> ZaraxZ: ifconfig in console doesn't say anything?
[11:15] <talisein> chopchop_: run mplayer on whatever you did before and tell me what audio output method its using (alsa, esd, ...)
[11:15] <doomz> I was told to try the BETA version of edgy, I get the same error but now - it tells me it cant read the file system and redirects me to busybox
[11:15] <doomz> when I get there, I cant find my hard drive in the dev directory
[11:15] <IcemanV9> BrMiHi08: it just give you information on wlan0 - no file
[11:15] <doomz> any idea ?
[11:16] <Noob1> IcemanV9: i closed out of fire fox shuld i restart the computor
[11:16] <BrMiHi08> Icemanv9 - well that pulls stuff up for my origanal wireless card, I want to add a new one or something..
[11:16] <IcemanV9> BrMiHi08: more info on iwconfig - man iwconfig
[11:16] <profoX`> !repositories
[11:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:16] <profoX`> !repositories > jewbilee
[11:16] <IcemanV9> Noob1: no need to restart your pc, just firefox
[11:16] <chopchop_> talisein: the output method is definitely alsa
[11:17] <ZaraxZ> Tomcat_: Not much...My network device is: loopback interface (lo)
[11:17] <chopchop_> talisein: mplayer says "alsa-init: using device default"
[11:17] <doomz> help ? :( tried to dig the forums... no luck... upgraded bios... no luck again
[11:17] <Noob1> nope im still getting it even after that
[11:17] <talisein> chopchop_: hmm, so you do have a /dev/dsp right?
[11:17] <Noob1> !java > Tom
[11:17] <Noob1> opps
[11:18] <chopchop_> talisein: yep
[11:18] <Tomcat_> ZaraxZ: Mh... weird. Unfortunately I can't help you more, gotta get back to work. But I'm sure there'll be somebody else here.
[11:18] <talisein> chopchop_: does your sound card setup have a headphone out jack you can check?
[11:18] <Noob1> !java > Noob1
[11:18] <IcemanV9> Noob1: in the terminal, java -version
[11:18] <ZaraxZ> Tomcat_: thanks anyway!
[11:18] <jamtastic> Hey everyone - is there any software for Ubuntu that would let me configure a 'virtual' network out of 'virtual' servers, cables, routers, switches etc?
[11:18] <talisein> !alsa>talisein
[11:18] <doomz> the error is: PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6: 20000@5000000 for 0000:01:00.0          after that I get that the files system cannot be mounted
[11:18] <compengi> can someone guild me how to upgrade from gaim 2.0beta3.1 to 2.0beta4?
[11:18] <crochat> Is there a live CD which can be used with partimage ? Actually, I need a kernel with a r1000 module on this CD...
[11:18] <Wulong> Whats the name of Gnome/Ubuntu's package tray notifyer?
[11:18] <chopchop_> talisein: no, i checked it all
[11:18] <ZaraxZ> Can someone help me to fix my network on my computer? Linux cant find the device
[11:19] <chopchop_> talisein: not that stupid :)
[11:19] <Tomcat_> jamtastic: If you want VPN, try "tinc".
[11:19] <IcemanV9> Noob1: does it say the version of java? if so, then it should be working
[11:19] <talisein> chopchop_: eh its not stupid. Something is funky. Do you mind running through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems ?
[11:19] <Noob1> no it says that a plug in is needed
[11:19] <winston> hey where's the config menu for screesavers in dapper??
[11:20] <doomz> :(
[11:20] <IcemanV9> Noob1: then it is not working. did you issue the command, 'sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin' ?
[11:21] <Noob1> java version "1.4.2"
[11:21] <Noob1> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[11:21] <Noob1> thats the java thing
[11:21] <sureshot> whyso you left me a message i saw it as i was closeing my irc program ... i am just now getting back on for a few what did you need
[11:22] <chopchop_> talisein: damn,got no module runs, thanks for help
[11:22] <IcemanV9> Noob1: whoa. okay. two different versions. are you running breezy?
[11:22] <talisein> chopchop_: the sound modules weren't loaded?
[11:22] <Noob1> i dont know
[11:23] <IcemanV9> Noob1: it is gnu java by default.
[11:23] <Noob1> i got this disk from a teacher
[11:23] <chopchop_> talisein: yep, something like that, im trying to load it up
[11:23] <chopchop_> talisein: lsmod says no
[11:23] <Noob1> all i did was click install
[11:23] <sureshot> whyso are you there
[11:23] <ZaraxZ> Can someone help me with my network problem? Linux cant find my network card!
[11:24] <IcemanV9> Noob1: type "lsb_release -a", then tell me the name of codename
[11:24] <talisein> lsmod|grep snd returns nothing? If the reboot didn't help, check dmesg or /var/log/messages for errors.
[11:24] <Noob1> LSB Version:    n/a
[11:24] <Noob1> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[11:24] <Noob1> Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[11:24] <Noob1> Release:        5.10
[11:24] <Noob1> Codename:       breezy
[11:24] <IcemanV9> don't paste it here, dude
[11:24] <DShepherd> Noob1: please dont paste here
[11:25] <Noob1> ok
[11:25] <Noob1> i was told to
[11:25] <DShepherd> Noob1: use the pastebin..  !pastebin
[11:25] <Noob1> i think
[11:25] <DShepherd> !paste
[11:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:25] <talisein> its not a big deal, just do it in the future :)
[11:25] <IcemanV9> Noob1: ok. it makes sense. breezy use java4.
[11:26] <brettm> aybody know how to use just the live cd and store data to usb thumb drive?
[11:26] <DShepherd> brettm: sure.. pop in the livecd.. plug the usb.. and save to it.
[11:26] <talisein> brettm: plug in the usb drive, and save files to the thumbdrive. Or do you mean, store all changes to gnome to the drive?
[11:26] <Noob1> so what do i do know to get it IcemanV9
[11:27] <brettm> talisein: yeah, sorry, ewan't specific enough
[11:27] <sureshot> if anyone sees whyso let him know i was asking about his message i missed i have to go to band pratice at this time see ya all later
[11:27] <ZaraxZ> Can you change the network device to eth0 in a console?
[11:27] <brettm> talisein: my hard drive died
[11:27] <IcemanV9> Noob1: sudo aptitude install j2re1.4
[11:27] <Noob1> kk
[11:27] <talisein> brettm: hrmm, I know that was a feature that was under development, but I don't know if its in
[11:27] <brettm> talisein: I want to be able to use my laptop while I wait to get a nerw one
[11:28] <brettm> talisein: I read something about a 'casper-cow' disk label something or the other
[11:28] <talisein> brettm: hold on a second
[11:28] <Code-E> !ati > code-E
[11:28] <BrMiHi08> I ctill cannot get this to work.......
[11:29] <Noob1> hum it still says i need the plug in IcemanV9
[11:29] <brettm> hey < i just found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[11:29] <IcemanV9> Noob1: don't forget to restart the firefox
[11:29] <brettm> talisein: I found a howto suddenly ;-) thanks alot though
[11:29] <BlueEagle> brmihi08: did you do !wireless?
[11:29] <BlueEagle> !wireless
[11:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:29] <Noob1> i did... all u have to do is close out right
[11:30] <talisein> brettm: np, I was looking for the same page ;)
[11:30] <IcemanV9> yes
[11:30] <winston> Anyone know where's the config menu for screesavers in dapper??
[11:30] <Noob1> i just did agan and i still get it
[11:30] <BrMiHi08> 8w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless that is what my card is...
[11:30] <IcemanV9> system > pref > screensaver
[11:30] <brettm> Syste,->Preferences->Screensavers
[11:30] <BrMiHi08> *88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless
[11:32] <IcemanV9> !java
[11:32] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:32] <Noob1> i did i thought
[11:32] <clusty> are there any packages that help you view the apache logs in a cleaner way?
[11:33] <IcemanV9> Noob1: i don't know what's missing on your box. you may want to re-read it again. it's pretty straightforward instruction. :/
[11:34] <IcemanV9> clusty: gedit ?
[11:34] <Noob1> how do i enable Multiverse repository
[11:35] <jewbilee> hey guys, quick question, how do i move an application to another workspace?
[11:35] <jewbilee> without having to close and reopen
[11:35] <talisein> Noob1: you need the java browser plugin? apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[11:35] <Breetai> Help! All of the sudden I have no sound. Even after rebooting, I can see the modules are loaded, but when I go to alsamixer, nothing shows up, also, I have usb sound modules loading for some reason.
[11:35] <talisein> ? that's the second person today.
[11:36] <Noob1> talisein, i get am error when i do that
[11:36] <talisein> Noob1: what's the error?
[11:36] <xuser> Anyone has wpa working in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Noob1> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:36] <talisein> Noob1: "sudo apt-get sun-java5-plugin" sorry :)
[11:36] <strabes> xuser: yes, type sudo apt-get install network manager
[11:37] <IcemanV9> talisein: breezy, not dapper on Noob1's box
[11:37] <strabes> breetai: amixer set Master 31 unmute
[11:37] <talisein> ooh.
[11:37] <IcemanV9> breezy uses java4 not 5 five.
[11:37] <Breetai> strabes no, there are no channels or anything showing up
[11:37] <j-swim> hey folks anyone use wine? wondering if the current state of wine is worth using instead of getting crossover office.
[11:37] <talisein> Noob1: if that doesn't work try "sudo apt-get install sun-java4-plugin"
[11:37] <Breetai> /dev/dsp is there
[11:38] <xuser> strabes: k
[11:38] <jonah1980> hi how do i check how new my nvidia driver is?
[11:38] <talisein> or use synaptic and search for java plugin... ;)
[11:38] <andy_> hi, I have a Dell XPS 400, and it has an integrated sound card.  Is there anyway to make this work under ubuntu (or even linux for that matter)?
[11:38] <talisein> andy_: probably. boot up on a LiveCD and check
[11:38] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[11:38] <strabes> for all people with sound problems: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[11:38] <wubrgamer> where is my crontab kept ?
[11:38] <wubrgamer> on my system?
[11:39] <IcemanV9> j2re1.4 is java4 plugin for firefox (fx)
[11:39] <andy_> talisein: I am under ubuntu now...
[11:39] <wubrgamer> any ideas ?
[11:39] <wubrgamer> cron
[11:39] <talisein> wubrgamer: use "crontab -e" to edit it.
[11:39] <wubrgamer> where is it kept ?
[11:39] <narayana> what is the best way of installing sun's jre?
[11:39] <habeeb> Hello, does the line matters in conf files like bash.rc? For example if I add an alias command in the start of the file, will it give me an error?
[11:40] <andy_> narayana: follow instrutions on java.com
[11:40] <talisein> andy_: try going through the sound problems guide above
[11:40] <IcemanV9> wubrgamer: type 'whereis crontab' .. /etc/crontab (for system-wide)
[11:40] <narayana> andy_: when i do the .bin file it doesn't set the paths. so java BLAH doesn't work
[11:40] <strabes> yeah the sound problems guide i posted is really good
[11:40] <wubrgamer> huh
[11:41] <habeeb> dmesg >> ~/.bashrc would replace the whole bashrc with the output of dmesg, right? How can I make it that the outpud of dmesg, is just added to the end of bashrc?
[11:41] <IcemanV9> wubrgamer: in the terminal, type whereis crontab
[11:41] <crimsun> >> appends.
[11:42] <talisein> habeeb: >> appends, > overwrites
[11:42] <Noob1> when i did that i got E: Couldn't find package sun-java4-plugin
[11:42] <habeeb> talisein: appends = adds on the end of the file, or on the start?
[11:42] <talldave> can any one give me any clues as to where i may find a tutorial on how to write a GUI to enable me to run a series of commands to convert an audio file?
[11:42] <talisein> habeeb: end of the file. "prepend" is the word for the beginning
[11:43] <Breetai> hey I am part there, I have an intel8x0 for some reason I have usbsnd showing up as well, how do I get rid of the usb sound?
[11:43] <IcemanV9> Noob1: there is no package with that name :/
[11:43] <Madpilot> !java
[11:43] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:43] <habeeb> Right, talisein <:
[11:43] <Noob1> oh
[11:43] <habeeb> Is there a "prepend" one too, talisein ? :P
[11:43] <Madpilot> Noob1, see the link the bot just provided
[11:43] <Noob1> ok
[11:44] <talisein> habeeb: not that I know of without looking at bash's man page.
[11:44] <habeeb> talisein: ok, thanks!
[11:44] <narayana> is there .dep for jre?
[11:44] <habeeb> Hello, does the line matters in conf files like bash.rc? For example if I add an alias command in the start of the file, will it give me an error?
[11:44] <wubrgamer> again
[11:44] <LjL> !javadebs > naranha
[11:44] <wubrgamer> where is my personal crontab kept ?
[11:44] <wubrgamer> i'm so confused
[11:44] <LjL> !javadebs > narayana
[11:44] <wubrgamer> where is the file ?
[11:44] <IcemanV9> Noob1: look for information that is related to 5.10 not 6.06 :)
[11:44] <StuntCock> Has anyone had a successful install on an Asus A8V-VM motherboard with SATA drives?
[11:44] <Noob1> ok
[11:45] <IcemanV9> 5.10 = breezy, 6.06 = dapper
[11:45] <Lim-Dul> Hello
[11:45] <Noob1> witch is better / ezer
[11:45] <Lim-Dul> Does anyone know if apt-get leaves any logs?
[11:45] <habeeb> Lim-Dul: dpkg does in /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:45] <Lim-Dul> I'll look
[11:45] <habeeb> Lim-Dul: afaik apt leaves too, but I dont remember the filename
[11:45] <menko> hi, I have a few questions: 1. How do I set custom menu item keyboard shortcuts/accelerators to stay premanently? I set the hide items accelerator to , instead of ctrl + H (by hovering over and pushing , ), but it went away after you logout and back in.
[11:46] <narayana> LjL: thanks
[11:46] <menko> 2. Is there a simple gnome-panel clock applet, that doesn't have links to evolution.
[11:46] <Lim-Dul> Hm
[11:47] <Lim-Dul> I don't seem to have a dpkg.log
[11:47] <talisein> evolution's tentacles run everywhere. you can not escape!
[11:47] <IcemanV9> menko: system > pref > keyboard shortcuts
[11:48] <sergevn_> Does anyone has used Crossover office on MS Office 2003?
[11:48] <menko> IcemanV9: that doesn't set menu shortcuts, like view -> show hidden files
[11:48] <menko> IcemanV9: I managed to set it to , , but it changes back.
[11:48] <BrMiHi08> okay... I figured out what I need to do is change the device name
[11:49] <habeeb> Lim-Dul: aptitude is at "/var/log/aptitude" for sure.,
[11:49] <IcemanV9> menko: ah. well. i don't know beyond keyboard shortcuts. sorry.
[11:49] <habeeb> Lim-Dul: and from what I see, the dpkg log is : "/var/log/dpkg.log" :/
[11:51] <strabes> menko: do you mean make nautilus show hidden files by default?
[11:51] <strabes> or do you mean to make keyboard shortcuts permanent
[11:52] <Noob1> how do i install the unixodbc package? im in synaptic
[11:52] <Noob1> and i do not see it
[11:53] <strabes> noob1: do you have all your repositories enabled?
[11:54] <strabes> i see it
[11:54] <IcemanV9> unixodbc is in main repo
[11:54] <Noob1> i dont even know what thay are strabes
[11:54] <menko> strabes: no, I mean to change the shortcut for show hidden files permanently, so I can just push "," to show/hide them.
[11:54] <IcemanV9> already installed by default, i believe
[11:55] <strabes> noob1
[11:55] <Noob1> if thay are then it is
[11:55] <sergevn_> Noob1: What sources do you have in your  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:55] <strabes> noob1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unixodbc
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> Noob1: Shut synaptic down do this http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories then restart synaptic & you will have more luck
[11:55] <Noob1> ahhhhh so much red
[11:56] <strabes> noob1: do what thegatekeeper told you to, then type the command that i posted - it should work
[11:56] <iammisc> i have a laptop which i want to install ubuntu on. However, i need to dual-boot windows because sometimes, I have to use it. The hard drive on this computer is 40gb and I want to know how I should partition it using qt parted. Should i keep 20gb windows, 20 ubuntu or something else?
[11:57] <Noob1> kk
[11:57] <strabes> iammisc: that will work
[11:57] <strabes> my windows partition is 20gigs
[11:57] <Lam_> if my router doesn't broadcast it's ssid, can i still connect to it?
[11:58] <iammisc> LAm_: yeah
[11:58] <strabes> lam_ you should be able to enter the ssid into network-manager
[11:58] <Lam_> neat. thanks iammisc and strabes
[11:59] <strabes> iammisc: you might want to make a fat32 partition in between windows and ubuntu so that you can share files between them
[11:59] <Lam_> one other question. does the ssid have to be alphanumeric, or can i have symbols and stuff?
[11:59] <strabes> Lam_: no problem
[11:59] <strabes> Lam: not sure; do you really need that much security? lol
[11:59] <mjr> Lam_, not sure, but don't recommend non-alphanumerics
[11:59] <iammisc> strabes:can't linux now read/write ntfs partitions using fuse and the ntfsprogs
[11:59] <Lam_> i don't need *that* much, but any amount would be neat :)
[11:59] <mjr> iammisc, somewhat
[11:59] <strabes> iammisc: i dunno but i would not risk wasting my time
[12:00] <mjr> ssids are not a security feature
[12:00] <mjr> if you want security with wlan, you encrypt
[12:00] <strabes> mjr: i know; i wasn't thinking
[12:00] <Lam_> but disabling the broadcast and using symbols in the ssid name would be pretty cool
[12:00] <strabes> i dunno why i typed that
[12:00] <starsky_> Human theme is the best!!!
[12:00] <Lam_> i'm already encrypting at wpa2 anyways
[12:00] <andy_> Hi all, I have an HDA-intel audio card and I read that by reinstalling ALSA from scratch will solve the "no sound" problem.  Could someone help me do this???
[12:00] <strabes> that's good