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| Riddell | lexual: hi | 12:21 |
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| lexual | Riddell: G'Day | 12:27 |
| DaSkreech | G'night! | 12:27 |
| lexual | Riddell: check out: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/66827 | 12:27 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66827 in kdebase "[site-issue] konqueror doesnt handle frames correctly. eg http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:27 |
| Riddell | lexual: seen it, there's nothing I can think of in kubuntu which would affect it | 12:28 |
| lexual | Interesting, I just installed edgy and sid side by side to test it. They definitely render it differently. | 12:29 |
| Riddell | now that's weird | 12:30 |
| Riddell | we don't patch khtml at all | 12:31 |
| Riddell | lexual: it would probably need someone to build kdelibs without any kubuntu patches and add back the patches to work out which it was | 12:31 |
| lexual | Riddell: What did you think of my comment on filing bugs against kdebase vs konqueror? | 12:36 |
| Riddell | lexual: that's a launchpad issue, you need to take it up with them | 12:37 |
| lexual | I'll start a thread in launchpad-users | 12:38 |
| Riddell | lexual: the issue is being able to report in binary package names as well as source package names | 12:39 |
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| lexual | Riddell: cool, just posted to launchpad-users, hopefully there's an easy fix. | 12:42 |
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| Tonio_ | lexual: ping ? | 01:57 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: concerning that frame issue I already saw that and did a few tests... | 01:57 |
| Tonio_ | I took the non working html page and put them without ANY change, on my webserver | 01:57 |
| Tonio_ | there it works | 01:57 |
| Riddell | curiouser and curiouser | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | looks like a very strange issue, maybe a bug with frames and certain caracters in the url or something | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I couldn't bleive it myself... | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | beleive | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | rah ! "believe" | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I tried to play with charset too, doesn't change anything.... | 01:59 |
| lexual | Tonio_: good work. | 02:05 |
| lexual | Riddell: do you subscribe to kde-devel list? | 02:06 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: found the issue :) | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | hard to resolve.... | 02:07 |
| Riddell | lexual: yes, although I don't usually read it | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: get the code and test locally -> it fails | 02:07 |
| Riddell | lexual: read the post about google though | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | change all the code to lowercase -> it works........ | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: funny isn't it ? ;) | 02:08 |
| Riddell | Sime: you were complaining earlier about sound being out of sync on flash | 02:08 |
| Riddell | Sime: looks like adobe heard you | 02:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: that has to be the weirdest beastie ever | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: so that's a lowercase/uppercase issue | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe, yes :) I don't see how except a khtml guru can fix this | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: there is also an html error, <link> outside of <head> | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: the code is crappy, don't blame khtml to fail on crappy code.... most websites with frame work here. | 02:09 |
| lexual | Interesting. | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: to reproduce -> | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | grab index.html and index_page.html | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | test locally and you'll see the issue | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | then use kate to change to lowercase on index_page | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | and reopen index.html locally | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | you should see the frames displayed correctly, can you confirm ? | 02:11 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah flash9 uses alsa by default, great news, just have to wait for beta to be out now... | 02:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you're so behind the times http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html | 02:13 |
| lexual | awesome | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | wow rockin | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | and i just packaged gnash last night | 02:14 |
| lexual | Tonio_: what do I change to lowercase? | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | ;/ | 02:14 |
| Riddell | works fine in konqueror too | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ! | 02:14 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: oh? | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, yup ( still has a few issues but works ) i'm trying to get it ready for Feisty | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: and how is gnash now ? does it have sound now ? | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, want a link ? to my work in progress ? | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, yes via GST | 02:15 |
| lexual | pity it's unlikely to be released before edgy. | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: last time I gave a try, only the standalone player worked... | 02:15 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: I don't really have time just now | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: and how about the konq extention ? does it work now, or is just the mozilla plugin ? | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss_gnash.png is it working on my ppc | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, just mozilla but konqui will use the mozilla one | 02:16 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yeah but there also klash supposed to be optimised for konqueror afaik | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | sorry, bad link http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss_gnash1.png | 02:16 |
| Tonio_ | never worked here :) | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | klash dosent compile atm | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | that was a major headache | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: interesting indeed, I hope it'll be ready for edgy+1 | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that it will not support flash9... | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | yea it only supports flash7 | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | but its a start | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: afaik flash8 video are sometimes working. | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I can't seem to find flash 9 on adobe website.... I'm redirected automatically to french page which has flash7 only...... | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | yea only "fully" support flash7 i should say and "some" flash 8 | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can you dcc me flash9 please ? | 02:20 |
| lexual | Tonio_: not sure if I did the right thing. grabbed index.html and index_page.html. Then I changed tags in index_page.html to lowercase, still didn't change anything. | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: bah I tested 3 times here with success | 02:21 |
| lexual | Did I do the right thing, did you change index.html ? | 02:21 |
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| Tonio_ | lexual: nope, only index_page | 02:24 |
| lexual | Tonio_: and changing tags to lowercase caused index_page to render correctly? | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: yes | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | just retested here, same result | 02:25 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: in fact you don't need index.html to test, just open index_page in konq | 02:25 |
| lexual | Tonio_: I'll try again. i.e. wget index.html index_page.html, then edit index_page | 02:25 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: okay | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | hum i cant find a download link for 9 Riddell, have you actualy downloaded it yet ? | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | well note that when I lowercase the code, I get a 404 error on the upper frame (good) but I don't see the forum on the bottom frame (bad) | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | it only partly resolve the issue | 02:26 |
| lexual | 404 is due to changing link part of UBB | 02:27 |
| lexual | http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi | 02:27 |
| Tonio_ | yes | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: another interesting test, change the code to lowercase | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | still fails on the bottom frame | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | now change the urls of the frames | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | for example google.com and yahoo.com -> works......; | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | honnestly, this website is a shit part of code...... | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | 2 vertical frames, with 2 horizontal frames on the right frame, plus a UBB template that causes issues........ my god...... | 02:30 |
| Riddell | http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ | 02:30 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: in my opinion, the issue is more the website than khtml, this is a horrible construction | 02:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks | 02:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: where was the link ? did I miss it ? | 02:30 |
| lexual | Tonio_: The real question is why to render perfectly in debian 3.5.5 and poorly in ubuntu 3.5.5 ??? | 02:30 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: hum, hard to say.... has riddell said, we don't patch khtml at all... | 02:31 |
| imbrandon | gah still no ppc or amd64 linux builds | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: can be due to UTF_8 by default in ubuntu | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: charset is generally my response when I don't see anything logical :) | 02:32 |
| lexual | I thought etch was utf8 by default. Can anyone confirm? | 02:33 |
| lexual | Tonio_: if you want me to boot back into debian and check some charset stuff I will, let me know. | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: I can't I didn't touch debian for a year :) | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: yeah okay | 02:33 |
| lexual | OK, be back in 5 | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: the point is there are thousands of websites with frames and I never saw that error except on that page.... | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | so it is hard to consider that a khtml bug since it would fail on most frame based wensites | 02:34 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: when you get a spare moment (ha, I know you're a busy man), could you help me figure out why ktorrent in dapper-backports/ppc is not building, when it builds fine in edgy/ppc and in dapper-backports/all_other_archs? | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ho my god ! it is the first time I can see a flash movie in konq without sound sync issue | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: very strange feeling ! but a good one | 02:36 |
| Riddell | jdong: it doesn't build because autotools thinks it needs to run itself | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | jdong, yea i'll check it here latertonight | 02:37 |
| jdong | Riddell: make it stop.... waaah :) | 02:37 |
| jdong | actually, I don't have a PPC so as long as I do some gmail filters it doesn't bother me one bit :D | 02:37 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I've started to patch k3b for konqueror integration (audio cd ripping), still things to do but it works | 02:38 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: sounds interesting | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well if I can do what I want, it'll be exactly the same process than with kaudiocreator, no difference | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | but I still have to patch to allow k3b to be launched in the shell with a --device parameter... | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | I looked at the code and I think I'll be able to handle this, even if k3b code is hudge... | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | once that done I'll be able to open k3b in audioripping mode | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and amarok integration is already finished for audiocd playing | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | we'll be able to test this at uds, that's the point | 02:44 |
| freeflying | morning alll | 02:56 |
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| imbrandon | wow Riddell it does work really well in konqui | 03:03 |
| lexual | Tonio_: OK, back in debian. | 03:04 |
| lexual | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4889952/snapshot1.png | 03:07 |
| lexual | Tonio_: what can I do to check the charset stuff? | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | echo $LANG ;) | 03:09 |
| lexual | en_AU.UTF-8 | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | hum, and that works........ amazing........ | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: I may not be able to help you now...... | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | looks like several issues are combined... | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | the first one concerns the upercase stuff | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | the second if why the board fails to display.....; I don't have the response and may not be able to help on that point..... | 03:11 |
| lexual | You should add a comment to the bug report, of what you have found out. | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | lexual: will do | 03:12 |
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| Hawkwind | So Edgy+1 finally has a name :) | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | Hawkwind: and it is? | 04:11 |
| nixternal | feisty fawn ;) | 04:11 |
| Hawkwind | Feisty Fawn | 04:11 |
| Jucato | Feisty Fawn | 04:11 |
| Jucato | :P | 04:11 |
| Hawkwind | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-October/000212.html | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:11 |
| nixternal | isn't the fawn that gets eaten by the tiger all the time? someone has already made the comment | 04:11 |
| === Jucato glares at Hawkwind... | ||
| Jucato | well a feisty fawn would certainly be able to out smart and out manouver the tiger :) | 04:12 |
| nixternal | but a fawn is so small, cute, and SLOW :0 | 04:12 |
| nixternal | hehe | 04:12 |
| Jucato | heheh | 04:12 |
| nixternal | don't know what happened to my smiley, obvioulsy missed the shift key | 04:13 |
| Jucato | well, there are always some mutations in nature. this could probably be one of them :P | 04:13 |
| === Hobbsee notes that there will be many packages not hitting the repos, and getting lost into the ether. | ||
| nixternal | i know at least 4 of mine didn't get in | 04:13 |
| nixternal | and all 4 were new upstream releases | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | due to typos :P | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: hmmm? | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: where were they? | 04:14 |
| nixternal | on revu still im sure | 04:14 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if you poked anyone about them | ||
| imbrandon | nixternal , flash9 on yoooootube http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss109.png | 04:14 |
| imbrandon | :) | 04:14 |
| nixternal | heh, more times than you could ever imagine | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:15 |
| nixternal | omg imbrandon, and it is shakira | 04:15 |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 04:15 |
| imbrandon | and katie holmes ;) | 04:16 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:16 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:16 |
| nixternal | ya, katie holmes before she became a retard | 04:16 |
| === Jucato is not surprised seeing shakira :P | ||
| nixternal | she is another basket case waiting for a space ship to come take her from this evil planet | 04:16 |
| imbrandon | why? | 04:16 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, ^ | 04:16 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: coz you always listen to her? :) | 04:17 |
| nixternal | ok imbrandon, and i am waiting for the link so I CAN GET FLASH9 TOO ;) | 04:17 |
| nixternal | winky | 04:17 |
| imbrandon | i havent made a package yet but here is the direct download http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html | 04:17 |
| imbrandon | i'll blog with a package later | 04:18 |
| nixternal | hrmm...it seems the screenshots abatoir sent me were w/o background | 04:18 |
| nixternal | cool | 04:18 |
| imbrandon | works with konqui too just fine | 04:18 |
| jjesse | evening | 04:19 |
| nixternal | hiya jjesse | 04:19 |
| imbrandon | ello jjesse | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | hey jjesse : | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | ) | 04:19 |
| jjesse | hiya | 04:19 |
| nixternal | hehe | 04:19 |
| jjesse | hello Hobbsee | 04:19 |
| jjesse | hi imbrandon | 04:19 |
| jjesse | man it sucks to only be on irc at night and the client i'm at blocks it :( | 04:19 |
| nixternal | jjesse: have you tried the cgi client on ichthux.com? | 04:19 |
| jjesse | no i'll hav to try it tomorrow | 04:20 |
| Hawkwind | Does all of youtube use flash 9 ? Certainly not | 04:20 |
| nixternal | no, cuz i don't have flash 9 and watch youtube like crazy | 04:21 |
| imbrandon | no Hawkwind thats just the site i tested it with | 04:21 |
| Hawkwind | Hmmm, I've installed flash 9 earlier and not sure if it's working. Anyone have a site that uses flash 9 for sure ? | 04:21 |
| Jucato | Hawkwind: test it with regular Flash 7 or 8 sites? | 04:22 |
| nixternal | File name: libflashplayer.so | 04:22 |
| nixternal | Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55 | 04:22 |
| nixternal | wo0t | 04:22 |
| Hawkwind | Not sure that will do any good. I've always had flash 7 working. But I need a site that uses flash 8 or higher to verify my flash 9 install is working | 04:22 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, just goto "about:plugins" in ff | 04:23 |
| imbrandon | it will tell the version loaded | 04:23 |
| Hawkwind | Yeah just thought about that. Gotta restart swiftfox and see | 04:23 |
| nixternal | heh, well it doesn't work so good | 04:24 |
| nixternal | as you can't use it to play flash games, it gives you "this browser cannot play this game" | 04:25 |
| nixternal | i wanna play zuma | 04:25 |
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| Jucato | lol | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: user ident. | 04:26 |
| nixternal | tried that already | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: i thought that zuma required shockwave though | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: where was the zuma? | 04:26 |
| imbrandon | it played frogger just fine for me | 04:26 |
| === nixternal gets the link | ||
| nixternal | ya, im a retard, leave me alone, i will go stand in the corner and look at the wall | 04:27 |
| Hawkwind | w00t, flash 9 is now working | 04:27 |
| nixternal | that it is..i am playing tank right now | 04:28 |
| Hawkwind | So who's going to be the first to make deb packages :P | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | Hawkwind: whoever doestn make it with checkinstall | 04:31 |
| Hawkwind | Hah | 04:31 |
| Hawkwind | I should create a petition to get the developer/maintainer of checkinstall to stop making that damn app | 04:31 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:31 |
| Jucato | Hawkwind: and at the same time, put up your own howto/wiki on how to do things properly :P | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | Hawkwind: it segfauled mostly thru dapper. some idiot fixed it. | 04:32 |
| Hawkwind | Hobbsee: Please don't tell me who! I'd have to find them and do serious bodily injury :P | 04:32 |
| Jucato | hm... what if Hobbsee did it? :P | 04:32 |
| Hawkwind | Jucato: She knows better :) | 04:33 |
| Jucato | well, she has her days :) | 04:33 |
| Jucato | or maybe jdng did it :) | 04:33 |
| Jucato | oh please don't let jdong package Flash 9 heheh | 04:33 |
| Hawkwind | He'd backport it if it were out there :P | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | i didnt do it | 04:34 |
| === Hobbsee thinks she knows who did | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: interesting background | 04:39 |
| Hawkwind | Who is it that has packaged gnash ? | 04:39 |
| Hawkwind | Is it imbrandon or nixternal ?? | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, i'm working on it | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, hehe | 04:42 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Ah ok. Someone in #Kubuntu was just asking about it | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, flash9 and gnash | 04:42 |
| Hawkwind | And I knew one of you had been working on it | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, its not ready for the public yet ( either one ) | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | it will be in the next day(s) | 04:42 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: Right, I remembered that. Just need a brain refresher :P | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | :) | 04:42 |
| Hawkwind | It's hell to get old :P | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | lol | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, you dont like my background ? i was gonna petition to make it default for feisty | 04:43 |
| Jucato | hm.... it's hell to be getting oldER every day... :) | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:43 |
| Hawkwind | imbrandon: What background ? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 04:44 |
| Jucato | Hawkwind: imbrandon's wallpaper | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss109.png | 04:44 |
| Hawkwind | Ohhhhh | 04:44 |
| Hawkwind | LOL good one! | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, it changes daily almost though | 04:44 |
| Hawkwind | She's feisty isn't she ? | 04:44 |
| imbrandon | i have lots ;) | 04:44 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: maybe for the K release, Kute Katie? | 04:44 |
| Hawkwind | Hah | 04:44 |
| === Hobbsee idly wonders if they change levels of clothing too | ||
| imbrandon | no they are all G rated, i have kids you know ;) | 04:45 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: what, that makes a difference? | 04:47 |
| imbrandon | hehe well i dont want them walking in to a computer screen of a nekiid woman | 04:49 |
| Hawkwind | Why not, it educates them! | 04:49 |
| Hawkwind | Hah, just kidding | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | Hawkwind, hahah i would much rather they be educated at 18+ ;P | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: *g* | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | or 30+ or 40+ | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | ( in my duaghters case ) | 04:49 |
| imbrandon | yes i know that shovinistic but its my perogitive as a dad , shush | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: how old's your daughter? | 04:50 |
| imbrandon | one is almost 2 the other is 9 | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 04:50 |
| === Hobbsee wishes her battery lasted longer. | ||
| imbrandon | get an apple heheh | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | dad's got a dual core that i'm looking to inherit | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | nice | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | he's decided he likes it though | 04:52 |
| imbrandon | lol | 04:52 |
| Hawkwind | Is hoping to get a nice iBook later this year from a friend. | 04:52 |
| Hawkwind | I believe it's a 1.8GHz or there abouts | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 04:52 |
| jjesse | Hobbsee: if it has the intel q965 chipset it won't boot kubuntu | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 04:52 |
| === Hobbsee might just get a new machine herself, with extra long battery life :P | ||
| Hobbsee | jjesse: right, good to know | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | thanks | 04:52 |
| jjesse | not without passing commands to remove acpi | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | right | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | which i dont really want to do :P | 04:52 |
| jjesse | both in dapper and edgy, created a bug on it | 04:52 |
| imbrandon | jjesse, 4 of my system have to remove acpi, most HP non-laptops have buggy acpi support | 04:53 |
| imbrandon | thats a common linux issue | 04:53 |
| jjesse | imbrandon: i'm trying to use Altiris to image new DC7700's and I can't boot :( | 04:53 |
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| jjesse | ie7 has now released its final version :) | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | does it work? | 04:56 |
| jjesse | yeah i like it better the Firefox in windows to be honest | 04:56 |
| imbrandon | i hate the way ie7 does tabs | 04:57 |
| imbrandon | plus its uses too much memory that way | 04:57 |
| Jucato | ooh. thanks for the warning imbrandon. I just downloaded it | 04:57 |
| jjesse | i have a problem w/ Firfox hogging memory | 04:57 |
| imbrandon | its a new instance of ie7 for each tab | 04:57 |
| jjesse | really? that's not what i show in task manager, running ie7 w/ 7 tabas open right now only one instance of iexplore in task manager | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | yup read the ie7 blog, it explains it | 05:03 |
| jjesse | hmm i'll have to look at it | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | says why they had to do it that way ( basicly becouse they were lazy and dident want to write proper code ) | 05:03 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:03 |
| Jucato | and they say "upgrade with confidence"? | 05:04 |
| jjesse | Jucato: i've had no problems w/ ie7 been using it sicne beta 1 | 05:04 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 05:05 |
| Jucato | still too scared to install it on my sister's PC :) | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, dont worry in 2 weeks its a manditory update | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | so you wont have a choice | 05:05 |
| Jucato | ouch | 05:05 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:06 |
| jjesse | unless you block it | 05:06 |
| jjesse | there are several ways to do it, includign an official way from MS | 05:06 |
| imbrandon | ( that in turn will block other future updates and leave a security breach in ie6 ) | 05:06 |
| jjesse | so companies can block it until they are ready | 05:06 |
| imbrandon | yea you have to officaly hack the registry if you dont want it | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | real user friendly | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | :) | 05:07 |
| Jucato | :P | 05:07 |
| jjesse | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/updatemanagement/windowsupdate/ie7announcement.mspx | 05:07 |
| jjesse | look halfway down "Options for blocking automatic diverly | 05:07 |
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| imbrandon | yea then when a security hold in ie6 comes about you will be screwed | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | hole* | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | and those are about a dime a dozzen | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | but i still love you jjesse ;P | 05:13 |
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| abattoir | nixternal: you mean they have only a light blue background instead of the edgy wallpaper? | 05:48 |
| nixternal | yo yo | 05:49 |
| nixternal | ya | 05:49 |
| nixternal | that your vmware doin' that ;) | 05:49 |
| nixternal | no biggy | 05:49 |
| abattoir | nixternal: well, that's the way it is for edgy :( | 05:49 |
| nixternal | i could alway bugger it to make it look like it, but im not giong to worry about it | 05:49 |
| nixternal | oh really | 05:49 |
| nixternal | so that is the way it is then | 05:49 |
| nixternal | ok..cool | 05:49 |
| abattoir | nixternal: hopefully it'll change for edgy+1 when oem-config is restructured | 05:49 |
| nixternal | you said something like 15 images or somethign right? | 05:49 |
| abattoir | nixternal: no, i meant image no. 15 | 05:50 |
| nixternal | oh ok..good deal...i will have them up here ina bit then | 05:50 |
| abattoir | which shows the step where a user creates an account | 05:50 |
| abattoir | nixternal: you want something else? | 05:50 |
| nixternal | i just finished taking some ktorrent and digikam snaps | 05:50 |
| abattoir | nixternal: do you want images for all the steps? | 05:50 |
| nixternal | that be it...figure out why digikam keeps crashing on me | 05:50 |
| nixternal | nah abattoir, im not worrying about an image for each step | 05:50 |
| nixternal | just something to give an idea..but oem-config needs to be documented somewhere for sure | 05:51 |
| abattoir | nixternal: i'm working on something for the wiki | 05:51 |
| abattoir | nixternal: KubuntuOEMInstaller | 05:51 |
| nixternal | ok, i seen that, wasn't sure if you were going to rock it there then | 05:51 |
| abattoir | nixternal: should hopefully get it done by the time edgy releases | 05:51 |
| nixternal | i would like to get documentation for it though to be put in with the ubuntu doc project as well | 05:52 |
| nixternal | maybe we can edgy+1 that | 05:52 |
| nixternal | or fawn it ;) | 05:52 |
| abattoir | nixternal: oh, the current contents are just 'placeholders', till i got more time to finish it up :P | 05:52 |
| abattoir | nixternal: yes, i can get that done for edgy+1 as well, if you tell me what i should exactly do | 05:53 |
| nixternal | cool | 05:53 |
| nixternal | sure, i can help you out there im sure | 05:53 |
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| battousaix19 | hello | 06:29 |
| jdong | Jucato: I HEARD THAT | 06:35 |
| jdong | ;-) | 06:35 |
| Jucato | lol :) | 06:35 |
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| nixternal | there is only going to be one release candidate this go round correct? | 07:56 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/RC/Kubuntu | 07:58 |
| nixternal | wallah | 07:58 |
| nixternal | Riddell: ^^ | 08:07 |
| nixternal | anyone else, feel free to review and tweak as needed | 08:07 |
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| Sime | Tonio_: patches are in the usual place: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEMedia | 08:43 |
| Sime | Tonio_: You will have to ask Riddell about whether this will get into the release. (I hope so. it fixes bugs). | 08:44 |
| Lure | Sime: we need to have bugs in LP in order to have them targeted for release | 08:55 |
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| Lure | Tonio_, Riddell, jdong: I think workaround in bug 65734 is probably the root cause for our DPMS problems with kde 3.5.5 upgrade... | 09:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65734 in kdebase "After resuming from hibernation my screen blanks after about 70 seconds (powersave)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65734 | 09:25 |
| Lure | Sime: maybe your changes address this bug 65662 | 09:27 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65662 in kdebase "Not possible to mount USB stick after upgrading to kde-3.5.5" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65662 | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | hum, yes, that was what i was going to do | 09:27 |
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| seaLne | does anyone use the Multiple pbuilders scripts? | 10:34 |
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| seaLne | it is complaining for me about things not being in the normal locations suce as base.tgz instead of trying to use the ones specified | 10:35 |
| imbrandon_ | note sure what scripts you mean but i have 3 or 4 pbuidrs setup | 10:35 |
| seaLne | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto?highlight=%28pbuilder%29 | 10:35 |
| seaLne | how do you do it? | 10:36 |
| imbrandon_ | i cant get to my scripts atm but you might poke hobbsee , she can give you a copy of them | 10:36 |
| imbrandon_ | when she gets back on | 10:36 |
| seaLne | yeah tab complete was ailing there :) | 10:37 |
| imbrandon_ | i have dapper , edgy , breezy and sid all setup | 10:37 |
| seaLne | failing | 10:37 |
| seaLne | hmm ok it seemed to be ignoring some stuff but specifically putting it in the rc seems to work | 10:42 |
| fabo | seaLne: my script (for edgy) can be found on http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/pbuilder/ if you are interested | 10:46 |
| fabo | seaLne: + http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/pbuilder/.pbuilderrc-edgy | 10:46 |
| seaLne | ta | 10:47 |
| seaLne | i just found that the things specified in the script wern't be used | 10:47 |
| fabo | i use some personal customization and ~/pbuilder as my base dir, that can give you some ideas ;) | 10:49 |
| seaLne | yeah, my problem is that my homedir is on nfs so i need to copy stuff elsewhere | 10:49 |
| fabo | easy to fix in my scripts | 10:51 |
| seaLne | how does AUTO_DEBSIGN work? does it just prompt you at the end? | 10:55 |
| fabo | yes | 10:56 |
| seaLne | ah, sounds usefull | 10:56 |
| fabo | :) | 10:56 |
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| seaLne | i'm having problems with sarge trying to use find a repository called universe :-/ | 11:15 |
| seaLne | ah removing /etc/pbuilderrc solves that | 11:17 |
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| marseillai | Riddell: got a problem with krita update : | 11:27 |
| marseillai | krita: Dpend: krita-data (< 1:1.5.92) mais 1:1.6.0-0ubuntu1 est install | 11:27 |
| marseillai | Dpend: koffice-libs (< 1:1.5.92) mais 1:1.6.0-0ubuntu1 est install | 11:27 |
| marseillai | apt-get -f install solve the problem | 11:30 |
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| Riddell | marseillai: what platform, what distro version? | 11:51 |
| marseillai | Riddell: on edgy | 11:53 |
| marseillai | i had only koffice-latest repo | 11:53 |
| marseillai | adding koffice-16 repo and apt-geet -f install solve the problem | 11:53 |
| Riddell | marseillai: what hardware platform? | 11:56 |
| marseillai | Riddell: i386 | 12:29 |
| Lure | Riddell: I had the same problem on edgy i386 (I sent you a note onirc) | 12:30 |
| Lure | Riddell: I had plain edgy version before (no 3rd party repo) | 12:30 |
| Sime | Lure: my most recent patches don't address any of those bugs. | 12:30 |
| Lure | Sime: another reason why we should submit every bug in LP | 12:31 |
| Sime | Lure: Perhaps Tonio_ will be kind enough to submit a bug saying "Audio CDs don't open in the right URL in KDE". | 12:31 |
| Sime | Lure: I can do it, but it won't happen until tonight. | 12:32 |
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| marseillai | Sime: just to tell you that even if i keep my point of view about letting people choose if they want or not show unmount device i recognize that mounting removable device on edgy works so fine! so good job! :) | 12:34 |
| Sime | marseillai: oh, thank you. ;) | 12:35 |
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| marseillai | Sime: and do you remember what i told you about kde hal rules for moutning usb devices? | 12:35 |
| zorglu_ | just had an idea which could improve the irc help, i think. it is just for you information. imagine adding some basic script to konversation like "/tokubuntupastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will execute the "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and send it to a pastebin, gather the url and output the message "the result of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' is at http://pastebin.example.com/12345". i think it would speed up the help | 12:37 |
| marseillai | Sime: even if i think it's an option wich don't work anymore so this is a problem now with your patch it's almost useless because device are not mount in /media/sda1 or something like that but in /media/device_name | 12:37 |
| Sime | marseillai: You're refering to the properties dialog for mount points in konq? | 12:46 |
| marseillai | Sime: yes | 12:46 |
| marseillai | now that mount point is fix this feature is not really so important | 12:47 |
| Sime | marseillai: My patch doesn't change where things get mounted. BTW. | 12:47 |
| marseillai | so i think you should remove this properties dialog Sime if you can't fix it | 12:47 |
| marseillai | Sime: perhaps but now mount point are fix even if we don't use this | 12:48 |
| Sime | marseillai: maybe it is best if you file a bug report for this. | 12:48 |
| Sime | marseillai: I agree that it should be removed. | 12:48 |
| marseillai | Sime: oki i'll! on kde bugzilla? or ubuntu launchpad Sime ? | 12:48 |
| Sime | marseillai: LP. | 12:48 |
| marseillai | oki | 12:48 |
| marseillai | i will when i've finish with klondike! :p | 12:49 |
| lexual | Riddell: ping! | 12:50 |
| Riddell | hi lexual | 12:51 |
| lexual | g'day. do you reckon I can close these bugs, as they are really kubuntu features? | 12:51 |
| lexual | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123044 | 12:51 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 123044 in general "text completion in search bar ignores settings" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:51 |
| lexual | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123045 | 12:51 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 123045 in general "The search field autocompletion list contains never-used keywords" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:51 |
| Riddell | lexual: sure | 12:53 |
| freeflying | Riddell: how about the font config in k-d-s? thanks | 12:55 |
| Riddell | freeflying: it's been changed to Sans Serif and other generic names | 12:56 |
| freeflying | Riddell: thanks | 12:56 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: the brackets missing for entries in kmenu is a known issue? | 01:04 |
| abattoir | Riddell: "Adept Manager Manage Packages" instead of "Adept Manager (Manage Packages)" | 01:05 |
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| Riddell | abattoir: hmm, I'd noticed that but not registered it before | 01:06 |
| Riddell | must be a 3.5.5 feature | 01:07 |
| abattoir | Riddell: oh... i didn't notice it either, till i did a fresh amd64 install :P | 01:08 |
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| Tonio__ | hi all | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio__ | 03:09 |
| Tonio__ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYlx5gW90Aw | 03:09 |
| Tonio__ | pfiou..... not the first time paul gilbert makes me that feeling, but WOW ! | 03:10 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: where is your release candidate page? | 03:26 |
| Riddell | found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/RC/Kubuntu | 03:28 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:48 |
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| rideout | imbrandon: the flash beta in your repo gives a sizes mismatch error in apt | 04:15 |
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| ZeroCool | Thought I would post this, http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7603 | 04:25 |
| ZeroCool | interesting article | 04:25 |
| jdong | thank you for your submission to #kubuntu-devel: News for nerds, stuff that matters. | 04:27 |
| jdong | for discussion on the development of Kubuntu, please see slashdot.org | 04:27 |
| jdong | ;) | 04:27 |
| Tm_T | =) | 04:27 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:28 |
| Riddell | ZeroCool: we have an X setup tool in kubuntu (notwithstanding kamion's comments about X setup going away), networking setup is crap we know | 04:30 |
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| ZeroCool | Riddell: when is the first major release coming out for Kubuntu | 04:58 |
| Riddell | ?! | 04:59 |
| sebas | 1.5 years ago, ZeroCool. | 04:59 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:59 |
| Jucato | probably he meant "next"? | 04:59 |
| ZeroCool | okay, edgy... final | 04:59 |
| sebas | Next week. | 04:59 |
| Riddell | see EdgyReleaseSchedule | 04:59 |
| ZeroCool | give link pls | 05:00 |
| Jucato | !schedule | 05:00 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule | 05:00 |
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| ZeroCool | wow the 26th great | 05:01 |
| Jucato | is that why we'll only have one RC? | 05:02 |
| Riddell | we only ever have one rc | 05:02 |
| Riddell | if you have more than one rc it has failed in its purpose | 05:02 |
| Jucato | oh... | 05:02 |
| Jucato | lol I must have been dreaming sorry :) | 05:03 |
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| gnomefreak | Riddell: if your still here, is kde-guidance supposed to install as permssions 755? | 05:32 |
| gnomefreak | s/as/with | 05:33 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: which files? | 05:34 |
| gnomefreak | bug 66718 he didnt say | 05:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66718 in kde-guidance "XServer crashes, unable to login since" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66718 | 05:34 |
| gnomefreak | im not sure if leavin it open due to the p[ermisssions or close it as supposed to do that | 05:35 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: he said /tmp | 05:36 |
| gnomefreak | oh sorry missed that | 05:36 |
| Riddell | which isn't installed by kde-guidance | 05:36 |
| gnomefreak | scanned right over that :( | 05:36 |
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| jeroenvrp | I have a very simple bugreport: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/66959 | 06:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66959 in kdegraphics ".djvu files are not associated with KViewShell " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 06:07 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: any infos concerning Sime's patches ? are they ready for inclusion ? | 06:21 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: I'd say it's too late | 06:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we are going to release with media audiocds broken ?????? | 06:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's not acceptable in my opinion.... | 06:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I agree only outstanding issues have to be resolved but shouldn't this be considered major issue ? | 06:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: or at least provide an upgrade very quickly.... | 06:25 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is that your plan ? | 06:25 |
| Riddell | what's the diff? | 06:26 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dunno, I haven't see the patches... | 06:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just know it corrects the audio cd issues.... Sime is supposed to give the patches today probably... | 06:27 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDEMedia the patches are there | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | we can check the diff | 06:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want me to do a debdiff and compare ? | 06:28 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yeah | 06:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doing this right now | 06:31 |
| DaSkreech | :sighs as his other removes *Buntu for Suse | 06:32 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/31 the debdiff, I'm trying to build | 06:39 |
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| cmvo | Riddell: Hi! Have you read about the Qt/khtml security problem (CVE-2006-4811)? I think it applies to kubuntu too? | 06:48 |
| Sime | Hi all | 06:48 |
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| Riddell | cmvo: yes, I'm waiting for a good patch | 06:50 |
| Riddell | red hat are stupidly irrisponsible with that | 06:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: doesn't look too bad, but it has some debugging there which should be there | 06:51 |
| fdoving | hi sime. any did you find out anything about my problem? (guidance modules not loading.. powerpc) | 06:53 |
| cmvo | Riddell: Ok, thanks. So RH is using their own patch without waiting for the others? | 06:53 |
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| Riddell | cmvo: yes, and they're patching kdelibs when the problem is in qt | 06:54 |
| cmvo | Riddell: Maybe just easier for a quick patch :-) A Qt patch shouldn't be too far away. | 06:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I agree for the debugging.... | 06:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm building and testing, then adding this on my repo so that we can test, and maybe toonight ask mdz politely :) | 06:59 |
| Sime | fdoving: no. I'm out of ideas. Was displayconfig from the shell without kcmshell working? | 07:00 |
| Sime | fdoving: (I forget) | 07:00 |
| Sime | fdoving: maybe we can try strace'ing it. | 07:00 |
| fdoving | Sime: yes, displayconfig from the shell works without any errors. | 07:00 |
| fdoving | strace kcmshell displayconfig or just displayconfig? | 07:01 |
| Sime | strace -o displayconfig_trace.txt kcmshell displayconfig | 07:02 |
| Sime | that's the lot. ;-) | 07:02 |
| Sime | Tonio_: BTW, that fix for the Cancel button on the media popup was in that latest patch. (It got left out before. my bad, again). | 07:03 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: great | 07:04 |
| cmvo | Riddell: Will the 1019 i386 alternate daily become the RC or should I wait downloading? | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: and concerning the refreash issue ? any chance it is done toonight ? it is our last chance to upload probably... | 07:04 |
| Sime | Tonio_: it was accidential absent from the earilier patches. :-/ | 07:04 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: if not we'll provide a fix after the release | 07:04 |
| Riddell | cmvo: yes, it will | 07:04 |
| Sime | Tonio_: I've been looking at that problem, and now it is ok on my test machine and I don't know why. ;-/ | 07:05 |
| Sime | Tonio_: very frustrating. | 07:05 |
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| Riddell | Sime: what does it do now when clicking on cance | 07:05 |
| Riddell | Sime: what does it do now when clicking on cancel? | 07:05 |
| cmvo | Riddell: Thanks! | 07:05 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I think id depends on how fast the media is mounted | 07:05 |
| Sime | Tonio_: could be a race condition, yes. | 07:05 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: ho I have a question concerning my amarok integration | 07:06 |
| fdoving | Sime: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/displayconfig_trace.txt | 07:06 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: is there a way to get the real medium path with /media/cdrom0 ? | 07:06 |
| Tonio_ | converting this to /dev/scd0 ? | 07:06 |
| Tonio_ | any command allows this ? | 07:06 |
| Tonio_ | I searched without success | 07:07 |
| DaSkreech | raphink: What's the status of ichthux with Ubuntu? | 07:07 |
| raphink | how do you mean DaSkreech? | 07:07 |
| DaSkreech | I see it turning up on Newsletters and such | 07:08 |
| raphink | sure | 07:08 |
| DaSkreech | Is it a recognized derivative? | 07:08 |
| raphink | it's included in Ubuntu | 07:08 |
| DaSkreech | So it supported? | 07:08 |
| DaSkreech | it is | 07:08 |
| raphink | it's in universe | 07:08 |
| raphink | it's supported since we are several Ubuntu developers maintaining it | 07:09 |
| raphink | ;) | 07:09 |
| raphink | that's about the technical support | 07:09 |
| raphink | officially Canonical has not said whether they support it or not | 07:09 |
| DaSkreech | So it is roughly the same as Fluxbuntu? | 07:09 |
| raphink | not that I know of | 07:09 |
| raphink | I don't think Fluxuntu has metapackages in ubuntu yet | 07:10 |
| raphink | but as of the recognition by Canonical, I'd say yes | 07:10 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 07:21 |
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| Sime | fdoving: I think I've found the cause. | 07:33 |
| Sime | Tonio_: what kind of code are you using? C++? | 07:33 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I'd have to do this in a desktop file, so only shell is possible..... | 07:34 |
| fdoving | Sime: you rock :) | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | dcop or any other thing is possible, but no C++ possible | 07:35 |
| Sime | Riddell: ping | 07:35 |
| Sime | Tonio_: run kdcop | 07:35 |
| Riddell | hi Sime | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yeah but I didn't find any way to get that info from amarok or k3b... | 07:37 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: already did | 07:37 |
| Sime | stat64("/build/buildd/kde-guidance-0.7.0/debian/tmp/usr/share/apps/guidance", 0x7fe19838) = -1 ENOENT (No such | 07:37 |
| Sime | Tonio_: go to kded / mediamanager | 07:37 |
| Sime | Tonio_: it has some useful methods. | 07:37 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: let me check | 07:37 |
| Sime | Riddell: does that look normal to you? It's the "guidance crashes on PPC" problem. | 07:38 |
| Riddell | Sime: looks like a problem to me | 07:38 |
| Sime | Riddell: kcmshell can't locate the displayconfig.py to load it. | 07:38 |
| Sime | Riddell: it looks like a problem in how that little stub *.so was built for displayconfig. | 07:39 |
| Riddell | Sime: hmm, I also have those lines in my strace but it loads fine for me | 07:41 |
| Riddell | http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/displayconfig_trace.txt | 07:41 |
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| Sime | Riddell: is displayconfig.py always installed under /var/lib/python-support/... ? | 07:49 |
| Riddell | Sime: never, it's in /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig.py | 07:49 |
| Riddell | we also have /usr/share/apps/guidance/displayconfig.pyc | 07:49 |
| Sime | open("/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/displayconfig.py", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 16 | 07:51 |
| Sime | Riddell: that is from your trace. | 07:51 |
| Sime | (and why the hell doesn't konversation have an Edit->Paste menu item!!!) | 07:52 |
| Riddell | hmm | 07:52 |
| Riddell | /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/displayconfig.py -> /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig.py | 07:52 |
| fdoving | i have: | 07:52 |
| fdoving | kde-guidance: /usr/share/apps/guidance/displayconfig.pyc | 07:52 |
| fdoving | kde-guidance: /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig.py | 07:52 |
| fdoving | i also have the symlinks in /var/lib/python-support/python2.4 | 07:52 |
| Sime | ok, I see what is happening with /var/lib. cute | 07:52 |
| DaSkreech | Hawkwind: ping | 07:54 |
| Hawkwind | DaSkreech: You rang! | 07:54 |
| DaSkreech | You were going to poke around to find out about ebuntu a month or so ago | 07:55 |
| DaSkreech | waht came of that? | 07:55 |
| Sime | Riddell: fdoving's trace never finds displayconfig.py, and then fails. | 07:55 |
| Sime | fdoving: can you look up the version of your python package? | 07:55 |
| fdoving | Sime: packagename? | 07:55 |
| Hawkwind | DaSkreech: I got no reply at all. I sent 5 emails and got nothing | 07:55 |
| DaSkreech | So should we stage a coup? | 07:56 |
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| Sime | fdoving: "python2.4" | 07:57 |
| DaSkreech | Hawkwind: Interested in one? | 07:57 |
| fdoving | Sime: Version: 2.4.4~c1-0ubuntu1 | 07:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm uploading the kdebase build on my repo for testing | 07:58 |
| Sime | same as mine | 07:58 |
| Hawkwind | DaSkreech: From my understanding Ebuntu isn't going to be an official Canonical/Ubuntu supported project. It's a shame, but I wish someone could change that | 07:58 |
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| Tonio_ | hey toma ;) | 08:01 |
| DaSkreech | Hawkwind: Would be nice to have semi official packages though :) | 08:01 |
| Sime | fdoving: Now, go to a shell, run python then... | 08:01 |
| toma | hi Tonio_ | 08:01 |
| Sime | fdoving: type "import sys" <return> | 08:02 |
| Sime | fdoving: type "sys.path" <return> | 08:02 |
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| Sime | fdoving: what's the output? | 08:02 |
| Hawkwind | DaSkreech: Talk to gnomefreak, he was going to try and get my SoS repo added to easysource or source-o-matic or both. I have E17 packages for both Dapper and Edgy now that thousands of users seem to be using without issues | 08:02 |
| fdoving | Sime: ['', '/usr/lib/python24.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.4', '/usr/lib/python2.4/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Numeric', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/PIL', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/cairo', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gst-0.10', '/var/lib/python-support/python2.4', '/usr/li | 08:03 |
| DaSkreech | I guess that for canonical to support | 08:03 |
| fdoving | Hawkwind: did you fix the issue i pointed out in a forum somewhere? (packages installing to /usr/local is -bad-) | 08:03 |
| Sime | fdoving: can you pastebin that | 08:04 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: canonical isn't going to support another distro variant, it doesn't even support xubuntu | 08:04 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: Sorry Support was a bad choice of words | 08:04 |
| DaSkreech | Given Recognition is probably closer to what I was thining | 08:05 |
| DaSkreech | sort of how like UCE is not even acknowleged | 08:05 |
| DaSkreech | I wouldn't mind ebuntu to be round about where ichtux is now | 08:05 |
| fdoving | Sime: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27356/ | 08:06 |
| Hawkwind | fdoving: I rarely visit the forums actually. Do you remember where you posted that ? | 08:11 |
| Hawkwind | fdoving: Also, why is having them install in /usr/local bad and where would it be suggested that they install to ? | 08:11 |
| Sime | fdoving: that looks ok. | 08:12 |
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| fdoving | Hawkwind: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1619275&postcount=108 | 08:14 |
| fdoving | Hawkwind: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.1 | 08:14 |
| fdoving | Hawkwind: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html | 08:15 |
| fdoving | more spesifically: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHIERARCHY | 08:16 |
| Hawkwind | fdoving: Thanks. Reading over all of it now | 08:20 |
| fdoving | Hawkwind: you're welcome :) | 08:20 |
| fdoving | Sime: anything i can do to help you with debugging? | 08:21 |
| Sime | fdoving: I don't think so. | 08:23 |
| Sime | fdoving: thanks, | 08:23 |
| fdoving | let me know if there is anything i can do. | 08:24 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: just installed kde with your patches | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | I can see the changes | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | but konqueror segfault... | 08:30 |
| Sime | :-( | 08:31 |
| Sime | I don't know what is up with that. | 08:32 |
| Sime | if you open audiocd:/?device=/dev/hdb etc in konq, then it also likes to crash. | 08:32 |
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| Sime | maybe it is the ?device=xxx stuff that gives konq trouble... | 08:33 |
| Sime | audiocd:/ might just be ok. | 08:33 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: maybe yes..... | 08:33 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: what needs changing in you patches then ? | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: ho and it works for the desktop icon, but fails in /media | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | if I doubleclick on cdrom0 in /media, still empty folder, so the correction is only partial here (but better than nothing) | 08:34 |
| Sime | Tonio_: you won't see anything in /media for an audiocd. | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: ah ? | 08:35 |
| Sime | Tonio_: and there is not really simple way to fix that. Not one that will be ready in time for edgy. | 08:35 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yeah okay, I understand | 08:35 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: what do I have to change in your patches to get the desktop icon simply pointing to audiocd:/ without any parameters ? | 08:36 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I really would like to upload toonight, ut that's not possible with a segfault... | 08:37 |
| Sime | Tonio_: ok. :-) | 08:38 |
| Sime | Tonio_: shall I quick fix that up here and get you some new patches. | 08:38 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: perfect | 08:38 |
| Tonio_ | looks strange and may cause an issue when using 2 cdroms.... | 08:39 |
| Tonio_ | konqueror shouldn't segfault btw | 08:39 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: okay I understand hte behavior | 08:45 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: if ou have preloaded konqueror session, it works | 08:46 |
| Tonio_ | if you don't have any konqueror process running -> segfault | 08:46 |
| Sime | Tonio_: konq crashing on audiocd:?device=xx ? | 08:46 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yeah | 08:46 |
| Tonio_ | as long as you have a preloaded konq launched, it works | 08:46 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: lol | 08:47 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: that's why you didn't saw the issue | 08:47 |
| Tonio_ | if you killall konqueror before doubleclicking the desktop icon, then if crashes | 08:47 |
| Sime | I've seen it a few times. But last night it was fine. | 08:47 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: because you had a preloaded konqueror ;) | 08:47 |
| Tonio_ | probably the reason it worked | 08:47 |
| Tonio_ | I would say that's a konq bug, not an issue with your patches | 08:48 |
| Tonio_ | and it can be configured in kds > preload konqueror after kde is started | 08:48 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: what to do according to you ? fix your patches or consider this a konqueror issue ? | 08:49 |
| Sime | "fixing" the patches is faster. | 08:50 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: in the shell -> killall konqueror && konqueror audiocd:/?device=/dev/scd0 | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | that fails | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: in the shell -> killall konqueror && konqueror audiocd:/ | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | works | 08:51 |
| Sime | ok | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | so that's really a konqueror issue, should be reproductable on another distro I assume | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: well yes, fixing your patches is probably better, but we should remove your fix once konqueror handles urls correctly | 08:52 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: so I would suggest to backup the current patches :) | 08:52 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement audiocd:/?device=/dev/scd0 | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | works......... tricky :) | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I will report to kde svn | 08:56 |
| Sime | "Feisty Fawn" (?) | 08:57 |
| Hawkwind | Feisty Fawn, Ubuntu 7.04 :P | 09:01 |
| Sime | I'm still busy with the Erratic Eft! | 09:03 |
| nixternal | Riddell: did you commit the kubuntu-docs patch yesterday/today? | 09:05 |
| Riddell | nixternal: no, I don't think it's allowed | 09:16 |
| nixternal | thanks Riddell! hey, how come the RC page didn't get in the release announcement this time around? | 09:26 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I think because ubuntu didn't have one it wasn't in the template, it'll be the main link in a minute when I put it on kubuntu.org | 09:27 |
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| apokryphos | Riddell: I can do one or two install (possibly many more plain live CD) tests -- would you recommend I try the RC now or try a daily image in a couple of days? | 09:29 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: testing in a couple of days time would probably be more helpful | 09:29 |
| apokryphos | I know it's not too much help, but life is too annoying atm =) | 09:29 |
| apokryphos | ok, no problem | 09:29 |
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| gnomefreak | what is the reason kubuntu-desktop doesnt depend on firefox? because its GTK? | 09:39 |
| fdoving | gnomefreak: because kubuntu use konqueror. | 09:40 |
| apokryphos | gnomefreak: Konqueror/KHTML is really quite nice 8) | 09:41 |
| gnomefreak | fdoving: i know that is a reason but my personal thought is for ubuntu and kubuntu-desktops should include 2 browsers just incase there is an issue with one. but the reason i ask is someone want to have a mozilla-support-kde like ther eis one for gnome (cant remember the name of package) | 09:41 |
| apokryphos | do you mean a Qt port of Firefox? | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | apokryphos: he wants it to be defualt for mailto in kmail but i dont know if when installing firefox it "takes" as the default browser | 09:43 |
| gnomefreak | is a good idea | 09:43 |
| apokryphos | I'm not sure how much space is left on the images, but I think Firefox would bring in a lot of extra depends | 09:43 |
| gnomefreak | agreed | 09:43 |
| apokryphos | gnomefreak: nope, a browser in KDE doesn't become default unless you tell kcontrol/systemsettings for that to be the case | 09:43 |
| gnomefreak | bug 66990 | 09:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66990 in kubuntu-meta "kubuntu/firefox should per default open mailto: with kmail" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66990 | 09:43 |
| fdoving | gnomefreak: firefox does not take the default browser role. | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | fdoving: thats the point. the user would like it to | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | not really easy to do, as there isn't a seperate package for Firefox-KDE | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | and a user can quite easily always have ubuntu and kubuntu | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | fdoving: so installing firefox would overwrite any defaults is what it looks like he wants | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | gnomefreak: then they can change the settings in kde's systemsettings | 09:44 |
| apokryphos | that's a fairly bad presumption | 09:45 |
| apokryphos | perhaps some people would argue for a pop-up on firefox first-run asking it, but the general gist of Kubuntu is to minimise annoying startup-wizards, pop-upconfigurations etc | 09:45 |
| apokryphos | I don't really think the setting for the default browser is in an obscure place | 09:46 |
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| Lure | Riddell: clean install of RC, new profile - Admin Mode in knetworkconf does not work (no password dialog= | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | i will reject it i just have to think what to say | 09:47 |
| fdoving | gnomefreak: newly installed software should not, take over existing settings, and (possibly) break a working system or change anything without the confirmation of the user. | 09:48 |
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| Riddell | Lure: works for me, any other apps work with kdesu? anyone else have the same issue? | 09:48 |
| apokryphos | on Firefox and KDE it should presumably take KDE's default mailclient though | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | fdoving: that would be the new package that he wants kde to have to do that | 09:49 |
| apokryphos | (which is what I think the guy means, as you mentioned before) | 09:49 |
| fdoving | apokryphos: ah, that's something else. | 09:49 |
| apokryphos | indeed | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | he wants a package with : pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "kmailservice"); line in it but why doesnt he make a script for that | 09:50 |
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| fdoving | :) | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | im sure it would have to be more than just that line though | 09:51 |
| apokryphos | it's more complicated than just making that file, really | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | i figured that much :) | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | nothing is that easy | 09:52 |
| fdoving | it's a good start, and that will make firefox use kmailservice for mailto:s | 09:52 |
| apokryphos | when it should be taking the KDE default | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see whats wrong with konq. | 09:53 |
| fdoving | it's a wishlist for a new package, that makes firefox more kde friendly. | 09:53 |
| apokryphos | gnomefreak: nothing, it's perfect ;-) | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | it should be used by default since its the only browser other than text | 09:53 |
| fdoving | it is. but we're talking about a optional 'make firefox nicer with kde' package | 09:54 |
| Lure | Riddell: both kdesu, kdesu-stub and sudo are running, just no dialog | 09:54 |
| apokryphos | sure, but it's just fair enough if people want to use other browsers, and we should still try to make the transition as friendly as possible | 09:54 |
| gnomefreak | fdoving: i didnt say it was a bad idea i think its a pretty good idea but is it a way kubuntu really wants to go | 09:54 |
| Lure | Riddell: will reboot now as some packages were upgraded, but I doubt it is it... | 09:54 |
| fdoving | gnomefreak: can't see why supporting firefox users, and making firefox work nicer with KDE can be a problem? | 09:55 |
| gnomefreak | i agree but the coding hasnt begun yet. but either way i thought a good idea to let you guys know. and this isnt the first time its been asked to add support for ff to kubuntu | 09:56 |
| gnomefreak | i remeber like 4 bugs that i read the other day adding ff to kubuntu and other supportish requests | 09:57 |
| apokryphos | a Firefox-Qt port is very unlikely (tried in the past, got loads of hype, died before it become mature) but small things like that should be addressed | 09:57 |
| === gnomefreak personally would wait until the debate is over about ff | ||
| Lure | Riddell: works after reboot :-( | 09:57 |
| === Lure got strange issue for the second time today | ||
| apokryphos | gnomefreak: whether it should be included in the Kubu image? Not really going to happen, I think. | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | apokryphos: i doubt that too | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | there a re alot of depends (more than i would have thought) | 09:59 |
| gnomefreak | s/a re/are | 09:59 |
| Lure | Riddell: I think bug 66813 should be targeted for release - I will look into this | 10:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66813 in kdeadmin "kcm_knetworkconfmodule adds hostname to 127.0.0.1 line" [Critical,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66813 | 10:00 |
| Lure | Riddell: actually it is already targeted - is anybody working on this? | 10:02 |
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| Riddell | Lure: not that i know of | 10:13 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, I am downloading source now | 10:14 |
| === Riddell hugs Lure | ||
| === seaLne is doing 1.4MiB/s of torrents currently mainly the rc :) | ||
| Riddell | nice | 10:23 |
| seaLne | is the dvd in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ also effectivly rc? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | yes, it is | 10:24 |
| Riddell | although I don't know if it's linked from anywhere | 10:24 |
| seaLne | its not that i can see but i'll grab to test tommorow anyway | 10:25 |
| seaLne | i'm not sure what it is that causes rsyncs never to work from uni for the isos, its strange | 10:26 |
| Sime | Tonio_: testing. | 10:27 |
| === toma_ is now known as toma | ||
| Tonio_ | Sime: great | 10:30 |
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| seaLne | weirdly wget has very strange size info when getting the dvd isos | 10:33 |
| seaLne | amd: -6,754,304 ppc: -78,450,688 i386: 168,402,944 | 10:33 |
| apokryphos | so I fired up the desktop RC image (in live session), and got a few issues so far | 10:34 |
| apokryphos | it's definitely taken way longer than old images to start up, and I've got Error - artsmessage on logging in - "cpu overload, aborting" | 10:34 |
| apokryphos | though in general, now that KDE's fired up, it seems to run quite quick | 10:34 |
| apokryphos | and noo! Konsole background is black :D | 10:36 |
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| gnomefreak | rc images have been released? | 10:38 |
| apokryphos | yeah | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | ok with rsync do i just rerun the same command same file also to update it? | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | rsync -vPz rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/*i386.iso /home/gnomefreak/edgy-desktop-i386.iso is what i ran | 10:39 |
| apokryphos | you can use rsync to update or download directly, yeah | 10:40 |
| apokryphos | announced on ubuntu-announce | 10:41 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i got that but is it same command to update it? | 10:42 |
| gnomefreak | i looked in the man and it really didnt say | 10:42 |
| apokryphos | hm, not sure, let me check the man page | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | the annouce is wher ei got the idea to try rsync but it also didnt state that you have to use a dir. in the command | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | rsync --help says to use -u but also --inplace :( than says see man page | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | :( | 10:44 |
| apokryphos | really not sure, I'd quite badly end up using trial and error perhaps | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | seems like it would be rsync -vPzu--inplace rsync.......iso | 10:46 |
| apokryphos | you'd need a space between u and --inplace | 10:47 |
| ryanakca | oooh | 10:47 |
| === ryanakca waves at his license plate :) | ||
| ryanakca | anybody having trouble with kopete not singing into anything? (to the point of it not even opening kwallet for passwords?) | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: run it from konsole, I bet it doesn't reach kwallet at all. | 10:49 |
| === apokryphos tries | ||
| gnomefreak | i asked in motu to be sure | 10:49 |
| Sime | Tonio_: I've updated the wiki with the new links | 10:49 |
| Sime | Tonio_: go for it! | 10:49 |
| apokryphos | can't sign on too -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27376/ | 10:50 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range ? | 10:50 |
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| apokryphos | In the System Menu it says "Users Folders" | 10:51 |
| apokryphos | ...that really should be "Users' Folders" | 10:51 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 10:52 |
| ryanakca | apokryphos: that "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"... nothing new... I've always had that... | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: Nah. | 10:52 |
| apokryphos | curious, there's no other terminal output | 10:53 |
| ryanakca | I haven't upgraded since tuesday... | 10:53 |
| === Tm_T uses svn version | ||
| Tm_T | And no problems here. | 10:53 |
| ryanakca | was working before I logged out and in ten seconds ago... | 10:53 |
| ryanakca | Tm_T: straight from source? or did you make a package of it? | 10:53 |
| apokryphos | well it certainly doesn't sign on using msn protocol and AIM here | 10:54 |
| Tm_T | ryanakca: No point to make package, I follow strictly every commit. :) | 10:54 |
| ryanakca | lol | 10:54 |
| ryanakca | MSN, AIM, Jabber, ICQ are broken here | 10:54 |
| ryanakca | I don't get the dialog asking for my kwallet pass... | 10:54 |
| === apokryphos too | ||
| apokryphos | IRC is working though, it appears | 10:54 |
| ryanakca | so, either it's kwallet, or kopete... I'll try not saving the pass... see if it's kwallet | 10:54 |
| === apokryphos tries to use kwallet | ||
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| ryanakca | umm... where the **** is my wallet... kwallet opens a window, and my wallet is usually there... | 10:56 |
| apokryphos | firing up kde wallet manager, then file -> new wallet, doesn't work | 10:56 |
| ryanakca | now I just get an empty white window with kwallet menus | 10:56 |
| ryanakca | ok, so, I disabled 'remember password' for msn in kopete... | 10:57 |
| apokryphos | though I can't find kde wallet under systemsettings, but also: going to systemsettings -> user management -> administrator mode fails | 10:57 |
| ryanakca | I go to sign onto the network, in msn alone, and still not prompt from kopete for the pass | 10:57 |
| === apokryphos should perhaps be making bug reports | ||
| ryanakca | yes | 10:57 |
| === apokryphos heads off to LP | ||
| ryanakca | here, I'll report the "kwallets mysteriously disappear after recent upgrade" one, and you can file the other ones :) | 10:58 |
| apokryphos | my issue is probably tied in with yours, so I'll add a comment to yours if you give me a bug no. | 10:58 |
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| mhb | hi all | 10:58 |
| ryanakca | kk | 10:59 |
| apokryphos | hello | 10:59 |
| ryanakca | hey mhb | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: okay I'm testing this, thanks ! | 10:59 |
| ryanakca | hmm... another thing, I go to desktop, right click cd icon -> eject: The KDE Media Manager is not running | 11:03 |
| mhb | is there going to be a meeting where we'll (you'll) discuss the features for Feisty Fawn? | 11:04 |
| ryanakca | Feisty Fawn? It's been decided already? heh | 11:04 |
| mhb | ryanakca: yeah ... I expected something like that (D->E->F) | 11:05 |
| imbrandon | mhb, yes thats what the UDS in Mountain View is for | 11:05 |
| mhb | imbrandon: hm, but not everyone is invited or able to attend, you know | 11:05 |
| ryanakca | yeah, look at sabdfl's user page... it explains the naming stuff | 11:06 |
| === ryanakca can't imagine 10.10... it's so... far | ||
| imbrandon | mhb, correct but you can propose specs even if your not going | 11:06 |
| mhb | imbrandon: so propose first/discuss later? | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | propose --> gets accepted --> talked about and planed at mtv | 11:08 |
| mhb | imbrandon: shouldn't proposals contain some technical details already? | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | most of the time yes | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | mhb, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-October/000207.html | 11:10 |
| ryanakca | apokryphos: bug 67017 | 11:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67017 in kdeutils "KWallets disappear after 061017's upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67017 | 11:11 |
| mhb | imbrandon: "it is wise to discuss it on (IRC) (...) before proposing | 11:12 |
| mhb | " | 11:12 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: thanks | 11:13 |
| mhb | so it's discuss first/then propose/then discuss a bit more | 11:13 |
| mhb | that's what I wanted to know, thanks | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | mhb, not really they are discussed with those involved, not a meeting | 11:13 |
| imbrandon | and sometimes not at all | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | apokryphos: are you going to report that kopete's "remember password" is broken? (aka, it does not 'unremember' password) or can I? | 11:14 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: I didn't notice that, I couldn't even log on with any of the protocols apart from IRC | 11:15 |
| ryanakca | kk | 11:15 |
| ryanakca | I'll go 'head then :) | 11:17 |
| Sime | can anyone tell my why there are python*ubuntu packages and also just normal python* packages? | 11:17 |
| mhb | imbrandon: hmm ... I read through the spec lists, not many KDE/Kubuntu-specific entries there | 11:17 |
| ryanakca | ooh, gaim doesn't look as bad as it used to :) | 11:19 |
| Lure | Riddell: debdiff for bug 66813 is attached to bug - luckly it is simple fix in perl script (backend) | 11:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66813 in kdeadmin "kcm_knetworkconfmodule adds hostname to 127.0.0.1 line" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66813 | 11:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: not sure what is now procedure to get such changes in though (just ping anz -coredev)? | 11:20 |
| Riddell | Lure: not sure what current procedure is, I'll ask | 11:21 |
| ryanakca | apokryphos: is that a confirm for (bug) 67017 | 11:22 |
| Riddell | Lure: I can't see anything attached on that bug | 11:22 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: I can confirm I experience the problem, yes | 11:23 |
| mhb | I don't want to post mindlessly a few specs just for them to get declined, so I'll rather ask first: 1. Would it be possible/desirable for the Kopete in Feisty to support libjingle (voice over Jabber)? 2. Should I write the spec about the Grub configuration tool for systemsettings I am most probably going to co-write for Feisty? | 11:25 |
| Lure | Riddell: strange... It does not get attached in konqueror... will trz again | 11:26 |
| Riddell | Lure: I had the same issue earlier | 11:26 |
| === Lure forgot to checkmark "Include attachement" ;-) | ||
| Lure | Riddell: you have it now | 11:27 |
| nuku | is there a fix for the critical qpixmap bug in qt / kdelibs yet? i applied the redhat proposed patch for qt which stops konqueror from crashing but in a suboptimal manner (huge picture will not be shown) :/ | 11:28 |
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| apokryphos | geh! Evil amarok icons by default =) | 11:36 |
| Riddell | we have the default amarok icons by default | 11:37 |
| apokryphos | I know, sucks :P | 11:37 |
| apokryphos | windeco is really very nice, clean. Artwork altogether this time round is really nice | 11:38 |
| apokryphos | smoother colours (splash, background, etc) | 11:38 |
| Riddell | go kwwii | 11:39 |
| Riddell | kwwii: speaking of you, what plans for website artwork and announcement image? | 11:39 |
| apokryphos | yeah, good stuff. Last time round (dapper) it pained me :P | 11:40 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I have been working on them...I should have something in the next days | 11:41 |
| mhb | um ... should I write the specs or should I rather keep quiet now? | 11:41 |
| Riddell | mhb: specs about what? | 11:42 |
| apokryphos | feisty | 11:43 |
| mhb | the two suggestions I had a few lines above | 11:43 |
| Riddell | mhb: ah, missed that | 11:43 |
| Riddell | mhb: adding libjingle isn't a spec issue | 11:44 |
| Riddell | mhb: it just needs a main inclusion review and the right people poked | 11:44 |
| ryanakca | hmmm... why is it that we got rid of the option of controling the volume with the keyboard? | 11:44 |
| Riddell | mhb: a spec for grub configuration would be groovy | 11:44 |
| mhb | Riddell: there are some problems involved, AFAIK | 11:44 |
| mhb | Riddell: but ok, I'll do the second spec | 11:44 |
| Riddell | mhb: make sure you include UI mockups that we can run past usability dudes | 11:45 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: we havn't | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | moins all | 11:45 |
| === ryanakca had set his keyboard's volup, voldown, mute keys to their respective commands in kcontrol's keyboard shortcut's thing, and now, they don't work, and I can't find the fields to set them up again... (all after the recent upgrade that caused kopete + kwalletmanager to break :| )... | ||
| ryanakca | of course, I might just be having hallucinations... :D | 11:46 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: dapper or edgy? | 11:46 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: regional & language | 11:47 |
| ryanakca | edgy | 11:48 |
| ryanakca | apokryphos: yes, it's still the right keyboard map and model... I'm talking about 'Keyboard & Mouse' -> 'Keyboard Shortcuts' | 11:49 |
| apokryphos | I guess you mean hotkeys | 11:50 |
| mhb | good night all and thanks for everything | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | gnight mhb | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | hum time for some food | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, is it almost cd testing time ? | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | i have a iBook i need to reload soonish and RC would be a good test ;) | 11:53 |
| ryanakca | brb, supper | 11:53 |
| apokryphos | imbrandon: RC images are out! =) | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, cool ( i just got on the computer a few minutes ago heh ) | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | havent caught up on my mail and such | 11:55 |
| apokryphos | imbrandon: all links on the ubuntu-announce list | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | k, yea like i said hadent caught up on my mail, thanks for the headsup | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | kk some food, bbiab | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | btw apokryphos long time no see, how ya been | 11:56 |
| Riddell | seaLne: apt-setup upload just happened you might like, stops it validating mirrors if it doesn't need them, should stop hangs for proxies | 11:56 |
| apokryphos | imbrandon: yeah, I've been swarmed in from my University and moving into a new flat, but I've been good (apart from a little ill today) =). How about yourself? | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | great , swamped myself actualy but it seems to have died back that last few days | 11:58 |
| fdoving | gnite | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | l8tr fdoving | 11:59 |
| apokryphos | 'night fdoving | 11:59 |
| apokryphos | imbrandon: cool, glad to hear it | 11:59 |
| seaLne | Riddell: yeah saw the bug comment | 12:08 |
| seaLne | said he'd wait till after rc | 12:09 |
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