[12:19] awww shucks, looks like I don't get AIGLX [12:19] and I was sooo looking forward to the cube :-) [12:20] LaserJock, you can do aiglx with the freedrivers iirc, you just need to enable composite in xorg.conf ( thats all i did for compiz/beryl to work ) [12:20] LaserJock: why not? [12:20] yeah, but I can't use the free drivers [12:20] don't you want ultra-shiny bling to rot your eyes? [12:21] heh [12:23] imbrandon: I might be able to use XGL, but I might as well commit software suicide ;-) [12:23] not xgl , aiglx built into 7.1 [12:23] LaserJock: what drivers do you use? [12:23] but you need the beta drivers [12:24] I use the ATI binary driver [12:25] becuase that's the only one that supports my card [12:25] ah, sucks to be you then [12:25] yes, that's what I'm saying :-) [12:25] are we still playing with the idea of grumpy groundhog or was that stopped? === gnomefreak was asked about that a week or 2 ago [12:26] it'll probably still happen one day [12:26] I'll just have to go stare at the Sun for a while [12:26] but it's *not* a distro for people to run [12:26] LaserJock: how big is main + universe? [12:26] 20gb? [12:26] it will be a repository of really bleeding-edge packages [12:26] haha like 110gb === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-078-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] bleeding-edgy == broken 98% of the time [12:27] more like 99.9% [12:28] you think? [12:28] we're talking automated compilation from upstream CVS/SVN, etc [12:28] I wouldn't think it would be too bad [12:28] depends on the core I suppose [12:28] can you imagine running a system built on bleeding-edge gcc & glibc? [12:29] I know there are some people that do it.. [12:29] LaserJock, heh well the core would always be changing too thats the thing [12:30] hum is TheMuso awake yet ? [12:30] scratch that === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@29.182.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-139-75.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] imbrandon: Yes I am here. [12:37] morning TheMuso [12:37] But only for another 40 mins or so. [12:37] Morning ajmitch. === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] moins TheMuso [12:38] nevermind i dident have time to finish it up, i was going point you to the farm spec [12:39] Hey imbrandon. [12:39] but i still have a bit more to do [12:39] Oh ok. [12:39] ( and its dinner time ) [12:39] What do you mean didn't have time to finish it? [12:39] makin a proper spec [12:39] of it [12:39] Well just ping me when you finish it, and I will keep my eye out for it. [12:53] gnomesword bug [12:53] Ubugtu, gnomesword [12:58] bug #65451 [12:58] Malone bug 65451 in gnomesword "[UNMETDEPS] gnomesword has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65451 [01:01] heh yea I found it after a quick search === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-130.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [n=jorge@ethos.battleaxe.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] ajmitch: awake? === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp5-102.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] imbrandon: what keyboard layout do you use on a mac? [01:24] pc105 iirc === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] what ever it defaults to [01:28] pc104, more likely [01:30] ok === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] I'm just not sure about some of the buttons [01:35] well it should have loaded powerbuttonsd [01:35] for those [01:36] e.g. the fn+ keys [01:39] imbrandon: this isn't on a laptop, just a regular mac keyboard [01:39] imbrandon: but I don't have a numlock or insert key, etc. [01:42] they are just different names [01:42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_keyboard says you use "Help" as insert, and "clear" as numlock [01:46] LaserJock, yea but iirc powerbutonsd makes mac keyboards act "right" [01:47] oh, now I'm not sure what "right" means :-) [01:47] well act like you would expect them to in macosx === redguy [n=mati@act243.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pragmatine [n=pragmati@60-240-220-156.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pragmatine [n=pragmati@60-240-220-156.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-109-27.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1_ [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-1f29e743e4e1a26a] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion201@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] ajmitch, whoop here comes hobbsee everyone hide [03:25] heh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] hahaha [03:26] Hey Hobbsee. [03:26] hehe [03:26] heya Hobbsee [03:26] [20:25] ajmitch, whoop here comes hobbsee everyone hide [03:26] [20:25] heh [03:26] [20:25] --> Hobbsee has joined this channel (n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee). [03:27] aieee [03:27] hey TheMuso, imbrandon [03:27] :P [03:27] imbrandon: What you got going there? ESP? [03:28] man ;) [03:28] msn* [03:29] Oh ok. [03:29] Why bother when she is going to be on IRC at the same time? === ajmitch runs [03:29] hehe [03:29] TheMuso, sometimes i use IM's when i'm not on irc [03:30] Right. [03:30] imbrandon: traitor...using msn [03:30] or if i'm not on my normal computer [03:30] zul, hahah Hobbsee is my onlyu msn contact [03:30] all the rest are jabber ;) === Hobbsee has jabber as well [03:30] imbrandon: still....we are going to have to have a little talk though [03:30] TheMuso: i'm not all the time... === Hobbsee chases after ajmitch [03:30] help! === imbrandon hands ajmitch a disquise [03:31] I use MSN for my friends who don't know any better, but I also have a Jabber account. [03:31] RUN !! [03:31] TheMuso, same [03:31] heh there should be an motu octagon at uds [03:32] a wha? [03:32] like a ring.. [03:32] i'm sure there will be plenty of motu bof's [03:32] i know what an octigon is i just dont see the corelation [03:33] like the ubuntu logo [03:33] except we have more [03:33] I am really starting to feel sad about not going to this UDS. [03:34] :/ [03:34] TheMuso: next tiem [03:34] heh. Gartner reckon Apple should license hardware manufacturing/distribution to Dell. [03:34] Hobbsee: Depends on where it is I guess, but yeah. [03:40] woot flash9 works great even with konqui, too bad this still isnt ppc or amd64 builds\ [03:40] guess we'll still need to fixup gnash for that ( and free x86 ) [03:41] amd64 is planned, isn't it? 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[04:24] http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/ [04:32] imbrandon: does it work? [04:32] LaserJock, http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss110.png [04:33] good new eh? [04:33] news* [04:34] yes, very [04:34] how'd you install flash 9? [04:34] from the adobe site, i'm working on a deb now [04:35] i'm just hacking the flasplugin-nonfree 7 deb to make an "unofficial" one as its far to late for edgy [04:35] but i'll put it on imbrandon.com [04:35] that'd be awesome dude [04:36] its super simple to install from the site if you wanan grab it from there ( but your welcome to wait ) === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st0660990722.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] litterly its download a tar, untar it , copy the *.so ( one file ) to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins then restart firefox === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-548e9d679b24dc96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] imbrandon: where did you download the tar? I can't find it [04:45] LaserJock, one sec [04:46] LaserJock, http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer9_update/FP9_plugin_beta_101806.tar.gz [04:46] imbrandon: it is not a good news === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] imbrandon: the technology is still NOT open [04:47] hi [04:47] hub, good news he can get his wife off windows now [04:47] who needs flash anyway [04:47] hub, i know thus i'm packaging gnash too ;) [04:47] hub, LaserJock's wife wont leave windows untill that website worked on linux , so yes good news ;P [04:48] even if its still evil its far less evil than full blown windows [04:49] what is evil is all these incompetent people that think that flash belong to the www [04:49] for sure [04:53] yay! xen :-) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] now I just want amd64 serverkernel for it ;-) [04:53] Nafallo: then wait for feisty [04:53] or roll your own, shouldn't be hard [04:54] I won't run feisty on my server :-) [04:54] yea, I was about to do that at some point I think. [04:54] oh well [04:54] I have sources in my develdir ;-) [04:54] I don't think we'll have another x-s-2.6.17 build through [04:54] since it takes over the buildd for awhile [04:54] we need more of those then :-) [04:55] edgy is still very rough [04:55] I have to use a pre-dapper kernel to have a functionnal laptop [04:55] crossing my finger that all the udev thing will not break because of that === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] imbrandon: wahoo, it worked [04:58] LaserJock, rockin, i almost have a deb ready too [04:58] I didn't realize it was just one file [04:58] yea just one .so [04:58] its all most plugins are that are staticly linked === orion2012 [n=orion201@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-b4de20d58a561b9a] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-251-19-77.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] oh god, please don't package the beta of flash9 [05:35] umm ok, why not? you know if not there will be lots of crack about getting ti working [05:35] you are virtually ensuring people will SCREW their systems AND file bugs against flashplugin-nonfree -- which I will not be pleased about. [05:35] (the entire download mechanism needs to be reworked for the beta of flash9 anyway) [05:36] hrm actualy i already have it working [05:36] i just dident announce the url ( and wont now i guess ) [05:36] Flash 9 just simply works. There is no hassle with it [05:36] well, yes, it's certainly kludgeable. I did it, too, but I'm not going to condone it. [05:36] crimsun, right [05:37] i just thought a professional doing it would be better than crack on the forums ( can we call ourselfs profesional heh ) [05:37] it's all crack until Bart sorts it for Debian. [05:38] right but the _level_ of crack is far less [05:38] :) but i do see your point , i'm not saying that [05:38] i just dident want to see checkinstall debs floating arround [05:40] Ickkkkkkk === Hawkwind Shudders @ the word checkinstall [05:41] note that if you make a deb available, you are breaking their EULA. [05:41] even downloading from them like 7 does ? [05:42] depends what you're doing with libflashplayer.so. [05:43] Even copying libflashplayer.so across the network breaks it. [05:43] it just apt-get sourced flashplugin-nonfree from the repos and hacked it to look for the new tar.gz [05:43] changed the versions etc [05:43] s/versions/md5sums/ ? [05:44] yea [05:44] md5sum of the tar and of the file inside [05:44] this new EULA makes my skin crawl [05:45] heh yea kinda like the gplv3 does to me [05:45] one sec more soda [05:46] crimsun: is it much worse then for the previous version (7?) ? [05:46] it's shades creepier [05:53] it is not even free ware [05:54] because you allow them to audit at YOUR expenses your use of their software === orion2012 [n=orion201@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] hub, yes it is a nasty , but as i've said before without getting to much into the whole FLOSS vs propiatary talk, some things are perceived as nessesary evils such as flash ( i'm one of those ) and untill gnash is more mature I have to choose my battles, but on the flip side of that I'm am packaging gnash too to grab a wider audiance and hopefully make it more mature faster [06:01] I choose my battle [06:01] boycott flash [06:01] so in other words i agree with you on the ideas, but in practice the world isnt perfect [06:01] in practice you are hypocryt [06:02] no i've never said i'm 100% floss, and never will probably in the forseeable future, so thats not a hypocryte [06:02] i beleavein floss and stand behind it 100%, that dosent mean i'm RMS and shun closed also [06:03] if there is an open alternative i use it, if there is not ( in the case of flash ) i cant so i dont shoose to do without [06:03] s/shoose/choose [06:03] crimsun already gets to support users with flash 9 and sound problems ;) [06:04] yeah. I /love/ it. [06:04] tritium, should be alot less though as it uses alsa and gracefully fails now or so they say [06:04] imbrandon: I do without as well. lookm, no flash [06:04] imbrandon: dunno, but he's already getting questions in #ubuntu [06:05] ouch [06:05] they is IMHO the best strategy [06:05] hub, and thats your choice, i dont say its a bad one, its just not the correct choice for me [06:05] i do without flash on my ppc every day , as its the machine i use the most [06:05] as far as a desktop [06:07] point is its not a perfect world, and not everyone is a floss ONLY person, nor should they be imho but that just _my_ opinion, and honestly we both know where each other stand and this isnt really the place so i'll stop here === imbrandon hugs hub [06:08] thats one reason i sold my nvidia cards for intel graphics [06:08] instead of wasting time supporting their proprietary shit, why not helping on gnash? [06:08] so i could use 3d with oss drivers [06:09] hub, I am , but is dosent happen over night === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-6920aec6df68be0a] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] hub, you dident see the part where i said i'm trying to bring gnash to a wider audiance in feisty so we'll get more and better bug reports [06:09] and hopefull make it mature faster [06:10] and as soon as it does i'll use it fulll time [06:11] hub, infact see http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/edgy/gnash/ <-- my plem packages ( i wouldent install them though as there is some known packaging issues i have yet to upload fixes for ) [06:11] but point is i am doing both, i'm not a black or white person , there is grey for me [06:12] infact there is grey for every person that run oo.o or ff or krita or many other floss apps on windows [06:13] its just one more step in evolution, look at it like this, flash9 has brought one more person to linux ( and a future gnash user when it works for them ) e.g. LaserJock's wife [06:13] its cases liek that that make it not black or white for me === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] I wonder if anyone's actually going to provide feedback on a dapper-updates package in the 'test' phase of SRU. [06:29] crimsun: that'd require people knowing about the package & wanting to test it [06:30] you'd figure with the number of people whining about broken sound there'd be /someone/ aware of it. === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] I may as well just trawl the forum now and post. [06:30] easier to just complain [06:30] I tend to trawl forums & harass users to post bugs when I get the urge [06:32] well, that's what I'm worried about with the SRU process [06:32] are we going to get much out of it? [06:32] probably not [06:32] the 2 weeks in -proposed [06:32] way too many packages [06:32] 2 weeks is a long long time [06:32] yes it is [06:33] I don't particularly like it since we have no way of making sure that the packages get the testing needed in those 2 weeks [06:34] it'll be interesting to see what comes of these motu specs for UDSMV [06:34] interesting times === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-9c700e94855b329d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] it all feels quite overwhelming [06:36] why so? [06:36] lots of issues, things to think about, and that's beside just doing the actual package maintenance [06:37] it's always like this, we just choose to ignore it most times [06:37] I don't want us to get so bogged down that we stop actually doing any work [06:37] a constant problem [06:37] but it seems like somebody should be working about it [06:37] that's why we go to MV to talk about it [06:39] we need a UDS at crimsun's house :-) [06:40] heh [06:43] hehe === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-4-75.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-f5ed22324b8ee448] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] LaserJock: which specs? [06:49] there are quite a few governance specs [06:50] LaserJock: is there a URL with a list? [06:50] https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/motu [06:50] thanks [06:51] https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/new-developers [06:52] tritium: btw, the list of Mountain View specs is : https://features.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-mtv/ [06:52] lots of crack [06:53] & growing [06:53] LaserJock: are you going? [06:53] 'beryl-by-default' [06:55] I may try to go if I can combine it with a business trip. === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-3b49cb07e912c7e0] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] tritium: i've got a departmental seminar on the 7th [06:56] so I'll drive over that afternoon [06:57] LaserJock: you won't be there before then? [06:57] LaserJock: nice, maybe I'll see you there [06:57] ajmitch: unfortunately not [06:57] ajmitch, he is comming tuesday [06:57] it's really bad timing [06:57] unfortunate [06:58] my inlaws called and said they are coming down in like a week [06:58] then I had this seminar planned before the UDS announcment [06:59] LaserJock, so your not comming at all , or just late ? [06:59] I'll be there Tuesday night on [07:00] ahh ok [07:00] my seminar is at noon [07:00] I plan on driving pretty much straight from there [07:00] so I should be there by dinner :-) [07:00] beryl_by_default should be feisty+2 [07:00] not feisty [07:00] heh [07:01] LaserJock, yea its only like 5.5 hours right ? [07:01] from reno to sf that is [07:01] something like that [07:02] 4 hrs to SF [07:02] i took a trip to SF like 2 times for concerts when i lived in reno [07:04] stoped at donner lake a few times with the kids too [07:04] heh === minghua wonders why edgy-fontconfig is in UDSMV's spec list [07:04] deferred? [07:05] yeah [07:05] a good reason not to write the release codename in your spec name :-) [07:08] yeah, wouldn't want people to know our specs were from hoary or something ;-) [07:10] http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7719803018.html <- ahahah [07:15] hub, yea good think 7.0.63 hasent been used in ages, i'm sure i could drudge up vunerabilties for linux2.4 or most anything else :) [07:15] s/think/thing === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@202.107.195.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] we have spam in malone now? [07:43] where should I report this? #launchpad? [07:44] minghua, i would say so === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-162.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] ohh ohh i soo want a sun blackbox === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] actualy i could probably build one for what they cost [08:09] heya Fujitsu [08:09] Hi imbrandon. === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-751093c37258c544] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pierre_ [n=pierre@r163.red.fastwebserver.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-162.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-bd28b2f1de6a3468] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.6.131.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] Hi all, I recently formally wrote up a feature specification proposal, and as I do not having coding skills it would need someone to step up for both the Drafter and Assignee positions. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone would be willing to do that. The spec is filed at https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/gaim-calendar-auto-aways if you'd like to take a look. === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] imbrandon, do you think it will be possible to get two last patches in for mythtv and mythplugins prior to edgy release? [09:15] well RC is being released in a few hours, depends on how critiacl the fixes are [09:15] most likely not tbh but i can look [09:16] i wouldn't call either of them critical. just the mythplugins would make for a cleaner install of mythweb [09:16] the mythtv isn't very important at all [09:16] then i would say not [09:16] bug 66564 for mythplugins if you would like to look === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] only things getting in now are ultra critical [09:16] Malone bug 66564 in mythplugins "Mythweb doesn't set permissions correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66564 [09:17] oic [09:17] well makes sense :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] heh we are 6 days from release and all ;) [09:18] well it's okay, our deers will be very accepting i'm sure [09:18] food time , brb [09:18] ;) [09:19] imbrandon: it must be some time to upload some crackful stuff, then! [09:19] Hobbsee, of course. [09:20] Fujitsu: :D [09:20] is there any particularly urgent stuff you guys will need a hand with still? i'll have a few hours tomorrow at work that I can probably kill giving a hand. [09:20] superm1: unmet deps [09:21] hehe, thats always the story :). Okay [09:21] i haven't looked at the list for a day or two. [09:21] superm1: well, they're very useful, assuming they actually get into the archive. also just fixing various bugs in the archive === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] very well. i'll see you guys tomorrow then and see what i can do to lend a hand more. -Night === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-88-86.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns [09:57] Evening, ajmitch. [09:57] hey ajmitch === Fujitsu finally gets around to uploading that new mpd. [09:58] put the changelog on malone? [09:58] I got a UVF for it a couple of days ago. [09:58] yeah [09:58] but for the upload [09:58] ajmitch: with all these new MOTU recruits, i get to be the lazy MOTU instead of you :P [09:59] it helps to see changelogs on bugs when it's approval time [09:59] Hobbsee: I can still be a lazy MOTU [10:00] ajmitch: not when you have to do UVFe stuff [10:01] & a whole bunch of other release-critical stuff [10:01] ajmitch, post the changelog entries since the current Ubuntu version as a comment on the bug? [10:01] Fujitsu: basically I need justification for uploads - being a UVF exception it should be ok [10:02] but for everything else I'd like to see changelogs on bugs [10:02] otherwise uploads sit & rot in the queue [10:02] OK. === ajmitch has too many keys on his keyring [10:05] ajmitch, uploaded. [10:05] ok [10:05] I'll wave it through next time I see an archive admin alive [10:06] Thanks === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-251-19-77.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:06] nice... xchat-gnome crashes [10:06] ajmitch: that's when they dont sit and rot on revu :P === ajmitch needs to put some dinner on [10:07] Hobbsee: you can do something about REVU [10:07] ajmitch: no i cant. what would i do? [10:09] review stuff [10:09] it's the logical answer [10:09] hello Yagisan [10:09] nah... [10:09] suggest fixes for peopl [10:10] G'day ajmitch [10:11] almost finished excising, re-implementing non-gpl code in my project, so hopefully I can get a package in edgy+1 [10:11] it was a pain in the arse to audit too O_o === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] I wonder how I can request a package removal [10:12] Hobbsee, ajmitch - so hows uni treating you ? [10:12] file a bug, subscribe ubuntu-archive [10:12] minghua, file a big `Please remove X from the archive' or thereabouts. === minghua strongly suspect bug #41533 should be fixed by removing the package [10:12] Malone bug 41533 in mozilla-locale-zh-cn "[UNMETDEPS] mozilla-locale-zh-cn has unmet dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41533 [10:12] give good reasons for removing it [10:12] And do as ajmitch said. [10:12] Yagisan: my next assignment is due next week. all is good :) [10:12] Yagisan: uni? what uni? [10:12] Hobbsee, I have a final exam tommorow [10:12] ajmitch, Fujitsu: thanks, I'll do that when I confirm in an edgy environment [10:13] ajmitch, IIRC you had a uni id card when I last saw you [10:13] Yagisan: that was earlier this year [10:13] Yagisan: ouch [10:13] hehe, he does === Hobbsee has seen it - and the picture on it [10:13] Yagisan, run along and study, then :P [10:13] (or is there an easy way to check a binary package's dependency, like packages.d.o?) [10:13] Hobbsee: quiet, you [10:13] package.ubuntu.com, minghua? [10:13] ajmitch: :D [10:13] *packages [10:13] minghua: apt-cache show foo | grep Depends [10:13] Fujitsu: is that up-to-date enough? [10:14] Fujitsu, I've not studied yet - and I don't intend to start now - 75% for lack of effort so far is perfectly acceptable [10:14] Hobbsee: not when I am not under edgy :-) but thanks [10:14] packages.u.c is generally pretty crap, I've found [10:14] ajmitch, `generally'? `Pretty'? [10:14] minghua: or you ask in the channel for someone to tell you the dependencies [10:14] Always and very, I think you'll find. === Zdra [n=zdra@86.198-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] minghua: ah [10:15] minghua, LP can actually tell you all that stuff. [10:16]