[12:01] <starsky_> any better themes ?
[12:01] <talisein> iammisc: as I understand it, you can write to ntfs up to some limit, at which point you have to let windows boot and run scandisk before you write more
[12:01] <strabes> starsky_: art.gnome.org gnome-look.org
[12:01] <seanmac> starsky_, emerald theme manager has some good ones :)
[12:02] <iammisc> talisein: yeah i see that now after reading the home page more carefully
[12:02] <chrinux> hi all
[12:02] <starsky_> strabes: yeah looking at some of them. :)
[12:02] <starsky_> iammisc: yeah thanks. :)
[12:02] <strabes> starsky_: yeah they have a lot of them.
[12:02] <talisein> iammisc: if you have a choice, use a vfat partition to transfer files between Windows & Linux
[12:02] <chrinux> sry for asking, but is there a wireshark debian-package for dapper drake?
[12:02] <strabes> iammisc: i agree with talisein
[12:03] <starsky_> iammisc: ntfs in 2.6.x is still not good for rw. :)
[12:03] <seanmac> andy, what does lspci -v | grep -i audio give you?
[12:03] <UdP> hello ?
[12:04] <seanmac> howdy
[12:04] <UdP> hiya
[12:04] <strabes> hi there lol
[12:04] <motty> hello fellow humans
[12:04] <UdP> im having some woes with reinstalling - - can anyone help ?
[12:04] <starsky_> !ask > UdP
[12:04] <xuser> strabes: install network-manager, then?
[12:04] <xuser> strabes: Where do yo open that app?
[12:04] <UdP> Basically .... i forgot my root password and want to reinstall - but ubuntu isnt picking up the install disk when i boot
[12:05] <strabes> xuser: you should be able to install it with sudo apt-get install network-manager
[12:05] <UdP> ive changed the boot device to cd and disabled the hdd - but says invalid system disk
[12:05] <andy_> lspci -v gives me this: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[12:05] <xuser> strabes: I did
[12:05] <andy_> I get nothing from grep -i
[12:05] <strabes> xuser: do you not have all the repositories enabled?
[12:06] <xuser> strabes: no.
[12:06] <iammisc> but qtparted does work with ntfs partitions right? cuz i need to resize the ntfs partition b4 installing ubuntu
[12:06] <motty> get the Uber Boot CD if ya have a second PC it has a ppasword remover on it
[12:06] <ClayG> hey anyone here know about upgrading the cpu on a lappy?
[12:06] <xuser> strabes: ok doing it.
[12:06] <UdP> whats the Uber Boot CD ?
[12:06] <tRSS> how do I apt-get svn?
[12:06] <strabes> xuser: no you don't have them enabled? then do this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[12:07] <motty> just google Uberboot CD it has a tone of utils on it for win and lionux
[12:07] <strabes> then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install network-manager
[12:07] <andy_> My sound card is detected but I get no sound
[12:07] <sheriff> how can i change the default keyboard layout?
[12:07] <xuser> strabes: K, thx.
[12:07] <strabes> xuser: did it work?
[12:07] <AsheD> are graphics drivers universal?
[12:07] <strabes> andy_ have you followed this? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[12:08] <andy_> yes
[12:08] <starsky_> UdP: why do you need root access ? just use your normal username. anyway http://www.linuxcompatible.org/HELP._forgot_root_password_t29872.html
[12:08] <andy_> my drivers arent listed
[12:08] <SB|nblracer> Is there away to foramat in NTFD?
[12:08] <strabes> AsheD: you mean for all types of cards? no ati and nvidia have different ones
[12:08] <motty> took me 4 hours o get my sound working, I had the darn thing muted LOL
[12:08] <SB|nblracer> mkfs ntfs dose not work
[12:08] <SB|nblracer> ntfs
[12:08] <UdP> lol i cant remember it - see i installed ubuntu about a year ago
[12:09] <andy_> I just need to know how to reinstall ALSA form scratch
[12:09] <seanmac> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-September/msg00353.html
[12:09] <seanmac> andy
[12:09] <strabes> andy_ i guess you could try sudo apt-get remove alsa-core
[12:09] <seanmac> you have to apt-get remove alsa
[12:09] <strabes> andy_ yeah then reinstall it
[12:10] <andy_> apt-get install alsa?
[12:10] <strabes> sudo
[12:10] <strabes> after you remove the core
[12:10] <motty> anyone ever get a new logitech cam to work on debiab/ubantu?
[12:10] <andy_> ok
[12:10] <andy_> ill give it a go
[12:10] <strabes> so i think you could do
[12:10] <strabes> yeah
[12:10] <strabes> try it
[12:11] <iammisc> does the ubuntu linux livecd have fuse?
[12:11] <UdP> IS there a defualt login for ubuntu
[12:11] <UdP> mebbe i sort this if i can get to the terminal
[12:12] <strabes> UdP - ctrl + alt + f1 will take you to the tty1 terminal
[12:12] <strabes> if it won't work or something i dunno
[12:12] <UdP> sweeeet
[12:12] <Noob1> hum i think i just killed my computor
[12:12] <UdP> no how do i reset the password :)
[12:12] <ClayG> UdP, you know it is weird, i thought passwd did it
[12:12] <narayana> i've installed suns jre but how to switch from the default java?
[12:13] <Noob1> im going to try that one more time then just reload every thing
[12:13] <ClayG> but i did it and after words it never took
[12:13] <ClayG> but it looked like it did, just never really worked
[12:13] <JDahl> motty, does dmesg tell you anything about the webcam?
[12:13] <xuser> strabes: Doing it.
[12:13] <strabes> noob1: what did you do?
[12:13] <UdP> what with root as the user ?
[12:13] <UdP> i tried passwd no joy
[12:14] <strabes> xuser: did it work?
[12:14] <andy_> how do you check if sound is muted etc.?
[12:14] <AsheD> how do I add available screen resolutions?
[12:14] <abyss> anyone can help me to get java runtime envireoment under ubuntu 6.06 run
[12:14] <motty> it doesn't see it, it sees the mic but not that cam, I'm running  SimplyMEPIS Linux and everything BUT the cam worked just fine, I'm a No0b to linux
[12:14] <ClayG> lemme log out and back in, and see if it took this time
[12:14] <Noob1> i did that sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list thing like it said on the site then when i chaged it i got that i have updates  then it will not load them
[12:14] <starsky_> what repo to use for emerald-themes ?
[12:14] <strabes> abyss check out www.getautomatix.com
[12:15] <JDahl> motty, if dmesg doesnt see it,  then it won't work.  That means there's no driver for the webcam chipset in the current kernel
[12:15] <strabes> that will set up all that kind of stuff for you automatically
[12:15] <AsheD> how do I add available screen resolutions?
[12:15] <motty> I had to clike and lit up all the darn services in the setting windoe, ( using KDE 3.5.3 )
[12:15] <strabes> starsky: emerald-themes is for xgl/beryl
[12:16] <xuser> strabes: network-manager is intalled, where do i open it?
[12:16] <strabes> which is a pre-beta openGL powered gnome desktop
[12:16] <motty> well the website said it was the wrong cam module, I can use a philips driver, but not sure how to complie the  module
[12:16] <strabes> xuser: log out and log back in (ctrl + alt + backspace) and it should appear in your toolbar notification area i believe
[12:16] <xuser> strabes: Ok, let me try.
[12:16] <strabes> xuser: ok cool
[12:16] <seanmac> andy_, are you in ubuntu or k/xubuntu ?
[12:17] <ClayG> UdP, hey it worked for me
[12:17] <seanmac> in gnome there is a speaker in the top right corner
[12:17] <JDahl> motty, you probably don't need to compile a new module.  Just insert the correct one into the kernel with "sudo insmod /lib/modules/xxxx"
[12:17] <strabes> starsky_: emerald-themes won't work for metacity which is gnome's default window manager
[12:17] <kaot> anybody got a working logitech G7 mouse with all buttons functional?
[12:17] <motty> yeah is said to try spc5xx but that didn't work
[12:17] <fluxinator> Do I need getty?
[12:17] <starsky_> strabes: so it's for kde ?
[12:18] <joeCoT> what's good in the hood, yo?
[12:18] <UdP> can someone tell me where id need to put passwd to reset root password ?
[12:18] <LjL> !root > UdP
[12:18] <nicodarious> hiya all!
[12:18] <seanmac> no starsky_, emerald-themes works in conjunction with xgl/beryl
[12:18] <LjL> UdP: please don't set a root password. that's not supported
[12:18] <Noob1> brb
[12:19] <strabes> starsky_: no it doesnt matter you can run xgl/beryl on gnome or kde
[12:19] <nicodarious> three cheers for Ubuntu!  (got about 10 people in my unit that's using it now)
[12:19] <strabes> starsky_:check out www.beryl-project.org
[12:19] <starsky_> strabes: thank you both. :)/
[12:19] <seanmac> beryl is really quite nice, i'm using it now
[12:19] <JDahl> motty, what happened when you loaded "spca5xx"? does lsmod show but kernel modules - the correct and the wrong one?
[12:19] <abyss> problem : this automatix version is only for Edgy
[12:19] <LjL> !automatix
[12:19] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[12:19] <fluxinator> I have 116 running processes, and I'd like to know what I can turn off in order to conserve ram
[12:20] <strabes> beryl is pretty cool; i cant get it to work with my dual monitors though so i'm not using it
[12:20] <motty> it shows the correct module and the mic on the cam works but no cam driver
[12:20] <JDahl> motty, *show both kernel modules*
[12:20] <abyss> how is my version of ubuntu called (V. 6.06)?
[12:20] <strabes> abyss: no it's not - automatix2 is for dapper or edgy
[12:20] <strabes> abyss: they have 2 different how to's on their website
[12:20] <LjL> abyss: dapper
[12:20] <cheesy> abyss: dapper
[12:20] <bitlogic> what is the company that's behind ubuntu?
[12:21] <LjL> bitlogic: Canonical
[12:21] <tRSS> .info
[12:21] <JDahl> motty, after you loaded the correct kernel module, does the webcam light up when you plug it in? then it's probably recognized by the kernel
[12:21] <jenkins> hello
[12:21] <jenkins> <--- has printing problem, possible bug report
[12:21] <UdP> any thoughts on how i can get ubuntu installer to boot
[12:21] <UdP> i already have it installed
[12:22] <bitlogic> www.canonical.com
[12:22] <fluxinator> no one can help?
[12:22] <LjL> UdP: i'm not sure what you mean
[12:22] <xuser> strabes: Do you know the command to start it? I still don't see it in gnome.
[12:22] <UdP> I already have an ubuntu installation and wish to reinstall but its not picking up the boot cd
[12:22] <xuser> UdP: Bad cd?
[12:22] <seanmac> fluxinator, what are your load averages
[12:22] <LjL> fluxinator, don't turn any of them off. they will be swapped out to the disk if they aren't being used, anyway.
[12:22] <bitlogic> why does canonical whant to develop a new control version sw?
[12:22] <bitlogic> SVN isn't enough?
[12:22] <jenkins> UdP : you should see the BIOS settings
[12:22] <UdP> nah its not burnt its a proper one sent through the post
[12:22] <LjL> UdP: well, do you have boot from CD setup in your BIOS?
[12:22] <fluxinator> 0.30-0.62
[12:22] <strabes> fluxinator: check out http://www.noenemies.com/7-ways-to-speed-up-your-linux-desktop/
[12:22] <UdP> yeh i have set it to boot from cd
[12:22] <LjL> UdP: even those can come out broken
[12:23] <UdP> oh rreally -
[12:23] <UdP> i do have 2 disks
[12:23] <jenkins> UdP usually you press f3 or del to enter bios setup
[12:23] <Mad3Max3> Hi people
[12:23] <UdP> might try and find the otherone
[12:23] <LjL> UdP: try the other one then
[12:23] <jenkins> then you have to change the boot order
[12:23] <narayana> how can i switch from GJC to suns JRE or JKD?
[12:23] <strabes> fluxinator: check out boot up manager (bum) also
[12:23] <strabes> xuser: hold on
[12:23] <motty> nope it never lite up
[12:23] <narayana> it wont let me uninstall gjc
[12:23] <Mad3Max3> writing this from ubuntu!! got it working after alot of work
[12:23] <fluxinator> strabes I am very familiar with BUM
[12:23] <jenkins> GNOME prints Tiff's all Black :(
[12:23] <jenkins> Big problem !!
[12:23] <motty> when I put in lsusb I get this for the cam Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:08c5 Logitech, Inc.
[12:24] <motty> but I don't know if that is the cam or the mic
[12:24] <yokobr> how can i upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:24] <jenkins> how can I print tiff image in ubuntu ?
[12:24] <strabes> fluxinator: oh ok then lol what are you asking
[12:24] <gnomefreak> yokobr: #ubuntu+1 for that question please
[12:24] <Mad3Max3> I have some questions about ubuntu thou.. seems like I can't login as SU.. don't got the pwd for it.. what is it?
[12:25] <LjL> !root > Mad3Max3
[12:25] <fluxinator> strabes there are just so many processes that are running, and Its just bogging things down
[12:25] <iammisc> so i think ill do 20gb windows partition, 19gb ubuntu, and 1gb vfat transfer partition
[12:25] <wubrgamer> hey guys...i need some help
[12:25] <JDahl> motty, well, if the correct kernel driver has been loaded the webcam should work in, e.g., gnome-meetings without any configuration via the video4linux API
[12:25] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, Ubuntu uses sudo & your own user pw, not su & a root pw
[12:25] <wubrgamer> i want to set up a job that will back up my /var/www directory every hour....
[12:25] <strabes> fluxinator: oh i dont know much about that - i've never really had that problem in linux. only in window$
[12:26] <motty> thats what the doc says but I think I need the philips cam drivers
[12:26] <sheriff>  normally i use a Turkish layout but after i installed beryl it started changing its layout to American how can i fix it?
[12:26] <LjL> !cron > wubrgamer
[12:26] <sheriff> also even if i choose Turkish layout it runs like an american layout?
[12:26] <motty> atleast thats where I found my cam listed
[12:26] <JDahl> motty, so if it doesn't work after loading spca5xx.ko, then probably you cant fix it easily
[12:26] <wubrgamer> but i don't keep my computer on all the time
[12:26] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot,  this means?
[12:26] <ianmacgregor> How do I enable a framebuffer device in Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS?
[12:26] <wubrgamer> and i want to make sure anacron makes sure it's run every hour my pc runs
[12:26] <strabes> xuser: sorry, try rebooting your computer - if that doesn't work i'm not sure. google network-manager or go on ubuntuforums.org
[12:26] <motty> no, I figured it wouldn't be an easy fix LOL I've worked with windows since 3.1, I have plenty of patients
[12:27] <LjL> wubrgamer, ah, not familiar with anacron.
[12:27] <wubrgamer> is anyone familiar with anacron ?
[12:27] <strabes> aoeu
[12:27] <Mad3Max3> I was trying to install the make package with dpgk.. but it said my user didn't have the right to do that
[12:27] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, the bot should have sent you a PM w/ a URL explaining things, but basically: your user password + sudo gets you admin/root privs when you need them, there is no seperate root login in a default Ubuntu system
[12:27] <wubrgamer> join #anacron
[12:27] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:27] <JDahl> motty, oh yeah... there's something about the phillips module changing license, so it might not be GPL anymore and then won't be included
[12:27] <wubrgamer> that didn't work
[12:27] <l0st1> anyone here run adesklets in ubuntu.....???
[12:28] <xuser> strabes: oki.
[12:28] <l0st1> I want to know how to start it without having to type "sudo adesklets"
[12:28] <motty> well I foun d it, but it's not a module yet. they are still working on it CVS something
[12:28] <fluxinator> I use conky
[12:28] <JDahl> motty, I went through the same headaches a few months ago with a cheap webcam. In the end I bought another one
[12:28] <mcphail> wubrgamer: the anacron manual seems quite clear
[12:28] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, what does sudo apt-get install build-essential" do?
[12:29] <wubrgamer> i know, i read it
[12:29] <motty> I spent $90 on this one just 3 months ago
[12:29] <seanmac> l0st1, System >> Preferences >> Sessions then go to Startup Programs
[12:29] <wubrgamer> i'm just horribly scared i'll mess it up
[12:29] <Mad3Max3> im a noob conserning linux
[12:29] <jenkins> Has anyone filed a bug report for gnome printing tiff as black squares ?
[12:29] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, installs make, gcc, and all the rest of the build tools from the repositories for you
[12:29] <motty> it's a ligitech quckcam pro 5000
[12:29] <mcphail> wubrgamer: then back up the anacron file first...
[12:29] <motty> damn my typing sucks in bed LMAo
[12:29] <sheriff>  normally i use a Turkish layout but after i installed beryl it started changing its layout to American how can i fix it?
[12:29] <sheriff> also even if i choose Turkish layout it runs like an american layout?
[12:29] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, but if you're a noob, building from source should be your last resort - what do you need that isn't in the repositories?
[12:29] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, sudo is a user with root priviligies?
[12:30] <roshan_s> wubrgamer: Put the script in /etc/cron.hourly
[12:30] <SB|nblracer> Is there away to foramat in NTFS?
[12:30] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, no, sudo is a command you give to gain temp. root privs
[12:30] <LjL> Mad3Max3, sudo is simply a command that allows you to run stuff with root privileges
[12:30] <JDahl> motty, I just bought a Chinese noname cam for $15 which happened to use the spca5xx driver
[12:30] <Mad3Max3> aha
[12:30] <wubrgamer> could someone pastebin me an example script...that backs up /var/www
[12:30] <wubrgamer> ?
[12:30] <SB|nblracer> I hvae tryed mkfs NTFS and it dose not work
[12:30] <wubrgamer> please !!!
[12:30] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, so its the same as SU then..
[12:30] <motty> well I do have two other webcams but they are in Michigan, I'm in Texas LOL
[12:30] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, not quite, but close. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:30] <roshan_s> wubrgamer: You do this in cron, not anacron
[12:31] <wubrgamer> oh...
[12:31] <motty> I may have to try the Aiptek cam that I have
[12:31] <mcphail> wubrgamer: a simple "cp" would do the trick
[12:31] <wubrgamer> could someone give me an example script though /
[12:31] <wubrgamer> ?
[12:31] <rabautz> sheriff: Do you use Xgl?
[12:31] <wubrgamer> i'm not command line literate at ALL
[12:31] <SB|nblracer> Any one know if ntfs can be supported in ububtu
[12:31] <sheriff> yeah
[12:31] <roshan_s> wubrgamer: What exactly do you want to do every hour?
[12:31] <rabautz> sheriff: Then commandline-option -kb for Xgl startup may help..
[12:32] <sheriff> rabautz : i unistalled beryl
[12:32] <mcphail> wubrgamer: cp -R source destination
[12:32] <wubrgamer> i want to have /www/var backed up in a tarred and archived file....
[12:32] <sheriff> rabautz : do i have to uninstall xgl also
[12:32] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, ok!.. can I add a root user and use the SU if I want to?.. is that difficult?
[12:32] <starsky_> SB|nblracer: you can't format to ntfs with Gnu/Linux AFAIK.
[12:33] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, you could, but there's no point, reallly. It can also mess up some of the graphical tools. Just stick with sudo, it's what Ubuntu is designed around.
[12:33] <starsky_> SB|nlracer: developer
[12:33] <Mad3Max3> so all I can do with SU i can do with SUDO?
[12:33] <rabautz> sheriff: No. Do you start Xgl over skript that is "linked" in /usr/share/xsessions/SESSION_Name? Then in this skript there is the startup-commandline for Xgl. Just append "-kb".
[12:33] <starsky_> SB|nlracer: developer's are having hard time writing to ntfs, let alone formatting. :)
[12:33] <JDahl> wubrgamer, rsync sounds perfect for regular incremental backups. Google for "rsync backup"
[12:33] <mcphail> wubrgamer: by the way, why does your /var/www change so much that it has to be archived every hour?
[12:34] <DaveyJ> okay one more question... totally n00b
[12:34] <SB|nblracer> starsky_ so mkfs.ntfs not posable
[12:34] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, and why aren't make package installed from start. hard to do some drivers installs without it
[12:34] <SB|nblracer> therefore i have to do Fat?
[12:34] <DaveyJ> whats kde's equiv to gnome's Sessions (for Autostart) aside from ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:34] <SB|nblracer> i need something that windows likes
[12:34] <motty> here is the URL for UBCD, ti may help wqith bot passwords and NTFS formatting http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[12:34] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, they will be in the next version, apparently.
[12:35] <fluxinator> foobar 2000
[12:35] <starsky_> SB|nblracer: yeah. ntfs is *still* not writable and formattable.
[12:35] <JDahl> SB|nblracer, can't you create the partition with fdisk, but format it from Windows?
[12:35] <motty> it has about 50 utils on there for all kinds of things for linux and windows
[12:35] <Code-E> I was wondering why quake 2 isn't a package in ubuntu
[12:35] <starsky_> !parted
[12:35] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.6.25.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 172 kB
[12:35] <Ademan> i need a SATA PCI adapter, what's my best bet for ubuntu/linux support?
[12:35] <SB|nblracer> well imade it with fdisk in linux
[12:35] <starsky_> !fdisl
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <starsky_> !fdisk
[12:35] <SB|nblracer> but i dont have windows installed
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <andy_> Hey all, uninstalling and installing ALSA solves the HDA-intel sound card problem (just to let y'all know)
[12:36] <motty> Fdisk work work on NTFS
[12:36] <motty> wont*
[12:36] <SB|nblracer> there is an option for it, if i remember right
[12:36] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, is there an other package installer like synaptics.. can't find what I want in synaptic.. like wine and such?
[12:36] <Lam_> how do i restart the networkmanager daemon?
[12:36] <Code-E> Hello?
[12:36] <Lam_> mine crashed
[12:36] <ivx> hey how do i make my media file open in kaffine and not the movie player
[12:36] <gtk_sp> fdisk dont work on ntfs
[12:36] <SB|nblracer> Do you recommend me going Fat?
[12:36] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, you probably need to enable the Universe & Multiverse repositories
[12:37] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Mad3Max3 about repos
[12:37] <Ademan> Mad3Max3: just add the repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <JDahl> SB|nblracer, isn't vfat ok for shared drive? I have no problems with that
[12:37] <roshan_s> wubrgamer: Make a file whose first line contains "#!/bin/sh" and second line contains "tar -czf /my/backup/file.tar.gz -C /var/www/ ."
[12:37] <SB|nblracer> thats what i will use then
[12:37] <Madpilot> Code-E, because it's not open-source fully. The Quake2 engine is, but not the artwork & such
[12:37] <motty> the UBCD has a third party formatter that will format in NTFS and it's a bootable CD
[12:37] <SB|nblracer> , just need a format that windows and linux likes
[12:38] <Ademan> SB|nblracer: fat32 is a format they can both deal with natively
[12:38] <starsky_> SB|nblracer: format it to ext3 if you plan to use with Ubuntu.
[12:38] <andy_> could someone reccomend a good audio player?
[12:38] <mikm[laptop] > I like rhythmbox
[12:38] <ivx> andy_ i like kaffine
[12:38] <SB|nblracer> Ademan will the command be mkfs fat32?
[12:38] <starsky_> !vlc > andy_
[12:38] <mikm[laptop] > I've heard great things about amarok too
[12:38] <Noob1> ya i think doing what u told me to do killed this
[12:39] <andy_> Ill try kaffine
[12:39] <SB|nblracer> starsky_ i have 4 drives, one of them is going to be shared on the network
[12:39] <Noob1> 543 updates that i cant install
[12:39] <JDahl> SB|nblracer, mkfs.vfat
[12:39] <Ademan> SB|nblracer: ext3 is a better bet though, if you want windows to be able to see and use it, just use ext2fs (can read and write ext3 as well)
[12:39] <ivx> andy_ what are you tring to play
[12:39] <ATAQ> hey will someone check my site to see if its up, cos I was fixing it. http://ataq.sytes.net
[12:39] <Isaacariah> right, im annoyed
[12:39] <andy_> MP3s
[12:39] <andy_> and WMAs
[12:39] <Isaacariah> whenever i take my eth0 down or up with ifconfig, it NEVER works
[12:39] <Ademan> i need a SATA PCI adapter, what's my best bet for ubuntu/linux support?
[12:39] <Isaacariah> i have to go System>Admin>Network and do it from there
[12:39] <wubrgamer> oh
[12:39] <ivx> andy_ did you install the codecs
[12:39] <starsky_> !xmms > andy_
[12:39] <wubrgamer> qIR
[12:39] <Isaacariah> can someone please tell me why
[12:39] <sheriff> rabautz: i tried to open that file with gedit but nothing came up i mean an empty page
[12:39] <wubrgamer> i think i get something now
[12:39] <Noob1> ya i think doing what u told me to do killed this
[12:39] <Noob1> 543 updates that i cant install
[12:40] <Ademan> Isaacariah: dunno, but is eth0 a wireless or wired interface?
[12:40] <andy_> rythmbox works fine, but it cant read from networks
[12:40] <wubrgamer> anything inside the cron.hour will run every hour right ?
[12:40] <Isaacariah> wired
[12:40] <wubrgamer> like bash scripts ?
[12:40] <sheriff> rabautz: its /usr/share/xsessions/XGl
[12:40] <SB|nblracer> Ademan i thought windows cant read and write to ext2 or ext3
[12:40] <wubrgamer> because i can make thouse
[12:40] <wubrgamer> *those] 
[12:40] <Mad3Max3> Ademan, add what in what?. im new to linux.. don't know that file and what it does
[12:40] <Isaacariah> the ONLY way i can get it to work is by changing to a different profile in System>Administration>Networking
[12:40] <Ademan> SB|nblracer: with ext2fs it can
[12:40] <starsky_> !vlc > andy_  try that!
[12:40] <syd_barrett> Hello all. Please guys.. does anyone know how i can get rid of default Rhythmbox that comes with Dapper without un-installing ubuntu-desktop??
[12:40] <andy_> ok..
[12:40] <starsky_> !vlc > andy_
[12:40] <roshan_s> wubrgamer: Yes. Just make sure you mark it executable
[12:40] <starsky_> this one!!!
[12:40] <wubrgamer> oh wow
[12:40] <starsky_> :P
[12:40] <wubrgamer> that's so much easier than i thought
[12:40] <wubrgamer> so i just make a bash script
[12:41] <wubrgamer> right ?
[12:41] <Ademan> Mad3Max3: basically /etc/apt/sources.list determines which servers to get files from (for things like wine)
[12:41] <Isaacariah> Ademan, I'm tring to change my mac addr, by using ifconfig eth0 hw ether <mac addy here>
[12:41] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, so I don't have to use pwd to use SUDO
[12:41] <Isaacariah> but when i bring the device back up i get nothing
[12:41] <Noob1> ok well since no one will help ill just reinstall
[12:41] <wubrgamer> right ?
[12:41] <motty> well what do ya know, it sees my old aiptek cam, dang that was easy
[12:41] <roshan_s> wubrgamer: Yes
[12:41] <andy_> what is !vlc? command returns errors
[12:41] <Mad3Max3> Ademan, APT is?
[12:41] <wubrgamer> thank you !
[12:41] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, you use your own password - the one you log in with. sudo will remember your password for 15min, though
[12:41] <Ademan> Mad3Max3: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic     will generate sources.list files for you depending on what you want and need
[12:41] <starsky_> sudo aptitude vlc
[12:41] <starsky_> wrong channel. :P
[12:42] <Ademan> Mad3Max3: APT goes and gets files, programs, libraries, wahtever, from the servers defined in sources.list
[12:42] <Ademan> Isaacariah: huh, well thats out of my range of expertise unfortunately
[12:42] <motty> ok kids thanks for all the help, have a good night
[12:42] <Isaacariah> no worries
[12:42] <wubrgamer> oh
[12:42] <wubrgamer> one more question
[12:42] <wubrgamer> then i am GONE
[12:42] <syd_barrett> Hello all. Please guys.. does anyone know how i can get rid of default Rhythmbox that comes with Dapper without un-installing ubuntu-desktop??
[12:43] <wubrgamer> what does the cron.d folder do ?
[12:43] <Xenguy> .oO(gone... real gone... :-)
[12:43] <andy_> sudo apt-get remove rythmbox?
[12:43] <fluvvell> Isaacariah, I've seen ethernet cards which claim to be able to change the mac address, but I've never seen a utility to do it.
[12:43] <Ademan> andy_: yes, but WHY?!?!?!?! lol
[12:43] <starsky_> sudo aptitude -s install vlc
[12:43] <Isaacariah> fluvvell, ifconfig does it
[12:43] <tich> i have this great little game called gate 88 but it has stopped working. when i run it i get this warning: could not initialize sdl_mixer. does anyone know how i fix this?
[12:43] <Isaacariah> ifconfig eth0 hw ether <insert mac address here>
[12:43] <starsky_> available in default dapper's sources.list
[12:44] <Isaacariah> however when i bring the device back up, I get nothing, I can only get to my local router
[12:44] <Isaacariah> but thats not the problem, wether i change my mac addr or not, if i take eth0 down and then up using ifconfig, i get nothing until i change network profiles from the system>admin>network menu
[12:44] <JDahl> starsky_, apt-get instead of aptitude ?
[12:44] <fluvvell> Isaacariah, really? with which particular option?
 ifconfig eth0 hw ether <insert mac address here>
[12:45] <FurthuR> just enabled dri on inspiron 4000 and all works fine EXEPT for my cursor which appears to be in monochrome...
[12:45] <starsky_> JDahl: yeah  I use them interchangely.. whatever the ocassion likes.
[12:45] <Ademan> I gtg later all, Mad3Max3 I hope you get it figured out, APT is essential to ubuntu, so everyone here should know what they're talking about
[12:45] <starsky_> sudo apt-get remove apt-get
[12:45] <starsky_> :P
[12:46] <Mad3Max3> Ademan, if i use that source-o-matic.. will my system still have my current installed packages updatable?
[12:46] <wubrgamer> hey guys, what is the cron.d folder ? how is it different than cron.daily or cron.weekly ?
[12:46] <FurthuR> i was reading and apparently i can add the lines in xorg.conf under input device > mouse : option "SWcursor" "On"
[12:46] <Mad3Max3> I redirect my quesion to Madpilot
[12:46] <JDahl> starsky_, I was trying to suggest that "sudo aptitude install vlc" is rather poor tutoring of a CLI new-comer :)
[12:46] <Manyfold> i have automake1.4 installed but kdevelop tells me i need automake >1.9 how to upgrade?
[12:46] <Isaacariah> wubrgamer, thats the actual cron daemon
[12:46] <wubrgamer> oh...
[12:46] <tich> how do i initialize the sdl_mixer? what is it?
[12:46] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, of course
[12:46] <wubrgamer> so erm
[12:46] <wubrgamer> confused
[12:47] <FurthuR> but doing this it only disables the hardware accell
[12:47] <Isaacariah> wubrgamer, the cron daemon is the actual cron service, or process if you like
[12:47] <starsky_> JDahl: sudo aptitude -s install vlc. :)
[12:47] <starsky_> let it simulate. :P
[12:47] <Mad3Max3> madpilot,if i use that source-o-matic.. will my system still have my current installed packages updatable?
[12:47] <Lam_> how do you restart the NetworkManager daemon?
[12:47] <wubrgamer> so i shouldn't put any scripts in cron.d right ?
[12:47] <Isaacariah> erm, i dont use cron so i'm not sure sorru
[12:47] <starsky_> it's all written crystal clear at the cli.
[12:47] <Isaacariah> sorry*
[12:47] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, yes, it will. All the source-o-matic will do is add to your sources.lsit
[12:47] <starsky_> :)
[12:47] <Madpilot> list, even
[12:47] <menko> Hi, I have some environment variables that need to be set (from scim) before any other program starts, but only for the current user. Where do I put the export commands?
[12:48] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:48] <fluvvell> Isaacariah, you maybe right according to http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/changemac
[12:48] <JDahl> starsky_, dang! I learned something new tonight :)
[12:48] <FurthuR> just enabled dri on inspiron 4000 and all works fine EXEPT for my cursor which appears to be in monochrome. i was reading and apparently i can add the lines in xorg.conf under input device > mouse : option "SWcursor" "On". but doing this only disables the hardware accell...
[12:48] <FurthuR> any ideas?
[12:48] <starsky_> JDahl: what's that ?
[12:48] <Yggdrasil> hi, is there any way that i can get the old style installer for ubuntu. i got the live cd but  its not loading and it would be nice just to do an install.
[12:48] <Isaacariah> fluvvell, I am right, technically, its in the ifconfig man page
[12:48] <rmd_> Yggdrasil: on the same page is the "Alternate Install CD"
[12:48] <Mad3Max3> madpilot, ok. now im getting somewhere! have a couple of more questions for u thou! :)
[12:48] <fluvvell> Isaacariah, yes but a little cryptic there.
[12:49] <Yggdrasil> ok thanks rmd
[12:49] <Isaacariah> ?
[12:49] <rmd_> no prob
[12:49] <starsky_> there should a game here
[12:49] <starsky_> :P
[12:49] <FurthuR> ive been trying to fix this for 2 days now
[12:49] <fluvvell> Isaacariah, and requires hardware and driver support.  I believe some nics are hard coded to a mac address
[12:49] <JDahl> starsky_, I only know the aptitude can be used just like apt-get. I've only seen the curses interface to aptitude
[12:49] <abyss> anjuta tells me : You must habe `glib` installed but, apt-get dont find such a deb
[12:49] <rmd_> Yggdrasil:  the CD image is below the server install cd.  the list goes "desktop", "server", "alternate"
[12:50] <starsky_> JDahl: no it doesn't have to use curses.
[12:50] <Mad3Max3> I was thinking about hardware drivers such as soundcards, graphicscard and ect.. is the drivers that ubuntu have the one to use.. since I got image and sound
[12:50] <Isaacariah> fluvvell, would that explain why when I try and change mine I get nothing?
[12:50] <JDahl> starsky_, s/only/didn't
[12:50] <starsky_> :P
[12:50] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, sure
[12:50] <starsky_> -s is to simulate. :P
[12:50] <FurthuR> abyss, did you look online for debs?
[12:50] <fluvvell> Isaacariah, what nic are you using?
[12:50] <menko> Hi, I have some environment variables that need to be set (from scim) before any other program starts, but only for the current user. Where do I put the export commands?
[12:50] <abyss> FurthuR: where i should look online for debs?
[12:50] <Isaacariah> erm, how do i find out
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> rmd_ im not seing it... looking thouhg
[12:51] <rmd_> it's in yellow
[12:51] <Isaacariah> fluvvell, SiS900 PCi
[12:51] <rmd_> not blue
[12:52] <rmd_> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso <-- the ISO i think you are looking for
[12:52] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, ubuntu use some package for my Nvidia stuff.. I got a Nforce based motherboard with intregrated graphics and sound.. well pretty much all .. is there any drivers that are better.. I think Nvidia have some one their homepage.. shall I use them?
[12:52] <starsky_> JDahl: or even try wget to fetch the package and install with dpkg
[12:52] <starsky_> :P
[12:52] <Yggdrasil> rmd_ thanks man
[12:52] <rmd_> no problemo
[12:52] <andy_> how do you set a "default" music player?
[12:52] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, sorry, no idea - I run an ATI graphics card myself. But check the Nvidia link
[12:52] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Mad3Max3 about nvidia
[12:53] <FurthuR> just enabled dri on inspiron 4000 and all works fine EXEPT for my cursor which appears to be in monochrome. i was reading and apparently i can add the lines in xorg.conf under input device > mouse : option "SWcursor" "On". but doing this only disables the hardware accell...
[12:53] <nicodarious> uggghhh....  is there any easy way to keep my nvidia driver updated with my new kernel versions that get updated periodically?
[12:53] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, that apt.. and the list and everything. is that connected to synaptic?
[12:53] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, yes, Synaptic is just the graphical front-end to apt, that's all
[12:53] <jcooke> abyss, did you try searching synaptic or aptitude
[12:54] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot.. is apkg something completly diffrent from apt?
[12:54] <nicodarious> every time i get a new kernel update, i have to update my nvidia driver to the new kernel....  but it's so long between times that i kind of forget how to do it...
[12:54] <rabautz> nicodarious: perhaps you can use the nvidia-glx package..
[12:54] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, dpkg, you mean? It's for installing individual .deb files; apt-get/apt/synaptic/etc get the same files over the internet automatically.
[12:54] <conky> hi every ine
[12:55] <starsky_> conky: hello :P
[12:55] <menko> where do I put commands that have the highest priority for starting when the user logs into a gnome-session?
[12:55] <conky> hi
[12:55] <conky> hiw you doing?
[12:55] <nicodarious> rabautz oh?  there's a nvidia-glx package, eh?  wasn'ta ware of that.  i was using the nvidia kernel.  will it have any impact on that?
[12:55] <starsky_> conky: good. u ?
[12:55] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, so apt is better than dpkg. and what is a .deb file.. isn't that a package?
[12:56] <Isaacariah> how do i add nameservers with ifconfig
[12:56] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, pretty much. The main reasons apt is better than dpkg is that it does the downloading automatically, and it handles dependencies for you - if running one package requires the installation of another, apt-get will do that
[12:56] <Isaacariah>  it seems every time i take my eth0 down then up, ifconfig defaults to the nameserver given to it by DHCP, which I dont want
[12:57] <starsky_> Mad3Max3: sudo dpkg -i <you_deb_package>
[12:57] <rmd_> Isaacariah: oh man i had that problem once.  gah.. i cant remember how i fixed it though.  dang.
[12:58] <Mad3Max3> starsky_ , ?? what does that do
[12:58] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, ok
[12:58] <Isaacariah> rmd_, THINK! lol
[12:58] <Isaacariah> its really bugging me
[12:58] <Isaacariah> and annoying me
[12:58] <Isaacariah> because my router always resolves IP's to 1.0.0.0 cause its crap
[12:58] <Isaacariah> so I need to add my ISP's nameservers
[12:58] <jewbilee> can anyone suggest a good FTP program for Ubuntu?
[12:59] <soundray> Guys, I'm getting a message "input irq status -71 received" when I plug in a USB TV receiver. I can't find any good clues on the web. Do you have a pointer for me? Similar experiences?
[12:59] <rmd_> jewbilee: gFTP
[12:59] <Isaacariah> and where does ifconfig get its settings from
[12:59] <Isaacariah> what file
[12:59] <cgardner> jewbilee:  nautilus works for FTP
[12:59] <jewbilee> thanks rmd
[12:59] <gh0st> how can i change my preferred multimedia app?
[12:59] <rmd_> Isaacariah: oh.. somewhere in /etc
[12:59] <Lam_> NOTE!  NetworkManager crashes if you try to connect to an ESSID with anything but alphanumerics.  it connects fine, but then crashes
[12:59] <wolfbane_691> i`m trying to install gyachi 105 and im haveing trouble and i have it down loaded can some 1 help please
[12:59] <rmd_> have you done the whole "man dhcp" thing?
[12:59] <jewbilee> rmd, is gFTP preinstalled?
[01:00] <rmd_> jewbilee: no, but you can add it using the "Add/Remove" menu entry or Synaptic
[01:00] <gh0st> how can i change my preferred multimedia (audio player) app?
[01:00] <jewbilee> ok
[01:00] <jewbilee> thanks
[01:00] <talisein> Isaacariah: I think you want to fiddle with dhclient.conf or maybe /etc/hosts
[01:00] <Isaacariah> rmd_, well i actually commented out the routine in the DHCP script that writes to resolv.conf <-- talisein I did that
[01:00] <rmd_> i think it is a client option
[01:00] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, how do I search in apt-get?
[01:01] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: apt-cache search
[01:01] <RazvanS> :SD
[01:01] <Mad3Max3> Xenguy, ok
[01:01] <rmd_> there is a client option that keept DHCP from using the nameserver given
[01:01] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, use Synaptic, and just hit the Search button - or what Xenguy said, if you're stuck in the command line
[01:01] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: apt-cache search keyword
[01:01] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: ahem, we're not "stuck" :P
[01:01] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, I like command line! :)
[01:01] <wolfbane_691> i`m trying to install gyachi 105 and im haveing trouble and i have it down loaded can some 1 help please
[01:01] <Xenguy> Madpilot: ^--
[01:01] <Isaacariah> rmd_ man dhcp brings up nothing for a start
[01:02] <rmd_> well crap
[01:02] <talisein> on debian derivities it is dhclient, not dhcp
[01:02] <talisein> same program though
[01:02] <rmd_> aha
[01:02] <menko> where do I put commands that have the highest priority for starting when the user logs into a gnome-session?
[01:02] <JDahl> Mad3Max3, if you install apt-file you get somewhat enhanced searching
[01:02] <Isaacariah> ah
[01:02] <Isaacariah> thanks talisein
[01:02] <soundray> menko: $HOME/.gnomerc
[01:02] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: apt-file is good for searching stuff you don't already have installed
[01:03] <gnu2it2> will ubuntu run on a 43p-150 powerpc ?
[01:03] <boink> isn't that quite old?
[01:03] <talisein> I couldn't find the option in the man file to not accept the dns change, I only looked real fast though
[01:03] <Eddieduce> Is there a work arround for having no shockwave player for the Native Firefox?  I've tried Windows Firefox but even worse, none of the players worked.
[01:03] <gnu2it2> yes
[01:03] <Mad3Max3> Xenguy, gonna test apt-file now..
[01:03] <rmd_> talisein: yeah it isnt there.  cripes
[01:03] <timalot> ive just transfered my ubuntu system to another pc....everything is working ok... but for some reason firefox doesnt want to work? ... when run mozilla-firefox or firefox-bin from the shell i get nothing ... not even an error... anyone had this kind of thing before
[01:03] <rmd_> i quit!
[01:03] <boink> I think gnome would be too much for that
[01:03] <wubrgamer> how do i say to bash include this folder /home/me/* but NOT /home/me/music ?
[01:03] <boink> maybe the server version would work on it
[01:04] <Mad3Max3> Xenguy, there is no command apt-file
[01:04] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: the basic syntax is: 'apt-file update' and then apt-file search keyword
[01:04] <soundray> timalot: what about "firefox" in a shell by itself?
[01:04] <JDahl> Mad3Max3, you have to install apt-file
[01:04] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: sudo apt-get install apt-file  ?
[01:04] <Isaacariah> ive simply removed the line from dhclient.conf that says to request nameservers
[01:05] <Mad3Max3> Xenguy, ok. I have to install it. ok.. one min.. doing that now
[01:05] <talisein> Isaacariah: check out dhcp-options manpage
[01:05] <Isaacariah> does that mean it'll just read whats in resolv.conf for nameservers now?
[01:05] <lele> hi! I've some problem with ATI 3D drivers
[01:05] <Eddieduce> Is there a work arround for having no shockwave player for the Native Firefox?  I've tried Windows Firefox but even worse, none of the players worked.
[01:05] <Xenguy> timalot: ps aux |g firefox     <-- to see if a firefox process is already running
[01:05] <timalot> soundray: that does the same thing... no output... ive tried deleteing my .mozilla dir aswell.... i hate it when there is not even an error
[01:05] <lele> some one can help me?
[01:05] <Xenguy> timalot: ps aux |grep -i firefox     <-- to see if a firefox process is already running
[01:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell Eddieduce about shockwave
[01:06] <starsky_> Mad3Max3: wget http://sompackage_locatoin then do after downloading do sudo dpkg -i <that_package> .. your best bet is to use the synaptic. it's easy fast and robust.
[01:06] <timalot> Xenguy: its not running.
[01:06] <starsky_> :O
[01:06] <Xenguy> timalot: OK, so that's one less issue
[01:06] <JDahl> lele, what architecture do you have, x86 or AMD64?
[01:06] <soundray> timalot: try 'strace firefox' and see if the output clues you in.
[01:06] <gh0st> how can i change the default player to amarok
[01:06] <gh0st> ?
[01:06] <talisein> Isaacariah: I think you just need to put "supercede domain-name-servers" in dhclient.conf
[01:06] <lele> hi! x86
[01:06] <cgardner> gh0st: open amarok before you play your music.
[01:06] <Isaacariah> thanks
[01:07] <lele> I've installed the driver
[01:07] <lele> but no 3D
[01:07] <gh0st> cgardner: but i want to use it with multimedia keys on my keyboard
[01:07] <ChickenTalons> talisein, please elaborate
[01:07] <Isaacariah> ill give it a go
[01:07] <Isaacariah> brgb
[01:07] <Isaacariah> brb*
[01:07] <talisein> ChickenTalons: eh?
[01:07] <cgardner> gh0st: you'll have to set that up separately, but you can use the windows key similarly to the multimedia keys
[01:07] <marcrosoft> how can i tell if dbus is starting on boot?
[01:07] <wolfbane_691> i`m trying to install gyachi 105 and im haveing trouble and i have it down loaded can some 1 help please
[01:07] <ChickenTalons> talisein, talisein Isaacariah: I think you just need to put "supercede domain-name-servers" in dhclient.conf
[01:08] <talisein> ChickenTalons: you have the same problem?
[01:08] <cgardner> gh0st: like in winamp but with the windows button
[01:08] <JDahl> lele, did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and change to the "fglrx" driver?
[01:08] <Mad3Max3> Xenguy, it didn't find the apt-file package,,
[01:08] <ChickenTalons> talisein, i have ALWAYS had problems with ubuntu and DNS
[01:08] <ChickenTalons> talisein, since 5.04
[01:08] <lele> yes I did
[01:08] <Xenguy> !repos > Mad3Max3
[01:08] <wubrgamer> how do i say to bash include this folder /home/me/* but NOT /home/me/music ?
[01:08] <ChickenTalons> talisein, it gets better when I disable ipv6, but it still tends to work like crap.
[01:08] <Isaacariah> ChickenTalons, you having the problem where it resolves everything to 1.0.0.0?
[01:08] <gh0st> cgardner: i have some multimedia keys on my keyboard (playe/pause, etc...) and want one to start amarok instead of default multimedia app (rhythmbox)
[01:09] <marcrosoft> is there a way to fint out what init.d scripts are started on boot?
[01:09] <soundray> wubrgamer: don't repeat, rephrase. What do you mean by "include"?
[01:09] <talisein> ChickenTalons: Okay, so normally when you use DHCP to get an IP from your router, the router will send info on not only what the IP is, but also who the name server (DNS) server is.
[01:09] <Xenguy> marcrosoft: try rcconf
[01:09] <ChickenTalons> Isaacariah, sometimes it doesnt resolv things at all, it depends on whether the DNS gnomes are sleeping or not, solved it by making /etc/resolv.conf read-only
[01:09] <Xenguy> marcrosoft: not installed by default AFAIK
[01:09] <Isaacariah> ChickenTalons, instead, just add your ISP's domain nameservers to resolv.conf
[01:09] <Isaacariah> yeah i did that
[01:09] <Isaacariah> kinda
[01:09] <ChickenTalons> talisein, yes - the problem is that ubuntu looks for a "search" lind
[01:10] <wubrgamer> I would like to back up my homefolder....but NOT a VERY large music folder inside it...
[01:10] <ChickenTalons> No, I just want to add 192.168.1.1 to it and not have it change, ever
[01:10] <marcrosoft> Xenguy, init.d doesnt have a command to show?
[01:10] <Isaacariah> cept i just commented out the line in dhclient thingy that actually writes to that file :P
[01:10] <Isaacariah> how do i make a file read-only anyway?
[01:10] <marcrosoft> Xenguy, i just want to find out if dbus is trying to start on boot
[01:10] <wubrgamer> how do i say /home/me/everything that isn't /home/me/music ?
[01:10] <Xenguy> wubrgamer: if you are using 'tar', then try the '--exclude' option
[01:10] <ChickenTalons> I dont want any stupid search foo.wan line
[01:10] <Xenguy> marcrosoft: dunno
[01:10] <soundray> wubrgamer: which command do you use for backing up -- cp?
[01:10] <cgardner> gh0st: see if this helps. http://www.findingmu.com/2006/08/ubuntu_multimedia_rocks.html
[01:10] <talisein> ChickenTalons: read man dhclient.conf, and it'll tell you how to make the local values take precedence with the "supercede" flag. So supercede domain-name-servers should tell dhclient not to overwrite what the computer thinks is the DNS server (which is stored in resolv.conf)
[01:10] <ChickenTalons> Isaacariah, thats what I ended up doing too
[01:11] <Isaacariah> ChickenTalons, how do i read-only resolv.conf
[01:11] <ChickenTalons> talisein, i'd preder it simply skip the "search fww.wan" line
[01:11] <talisein> chmod a-w /etc/resolv.conf
[01:11] <ChickenTalons> Isaacariah, as talisein said
[01:11] <Isaacariah> cheers
[01:11] <timalot> soundray: yeah i am looking at the trace now ... nothing obvious.... ill keep looking thanx for the idea
[01:12] <ChickenTalons> talisein, is there any way to stop the box from putting the "search" line in there? I just want the nameserver line
[01:12] <talisein> ChickenTalons: what complains if there is no search line?
[01:12] <soundray> Isaacariah: can you not just chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf ?
[01:12] <ChickenTalons> talisein, EVERYTHING takes forever to resolv
[01:12] <lele> stange thing: if I do fgl_glxgears
[01:12] <ChickenTalons> anything that doesnt have a numerical IP
[01:12] <lele> I got errors
[01:12] <ChickenTalons> itll resolve, eventually, but its slow and very annoying
[01:12] <marcrosoft> anyone know how to check which programs are comming up on boot, specifically dbus?
[01:13] <Cody`> Does anyone know why firefox crashes with the following? http://www.slexy.org/paste/156 I can't seem to get it to run more than 5 minutes
[01:13] <talisein> ChickenTalons: hmm. just put in localdomain? It seems that it needs that.
[01:13] <bimberi> If you can't fix the DHCP setup, the alternative is to make resolv.conf immutable: 'sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf'.  Then even root can't change it (unless a chattr -i ... is done)
[01:13] <lele> direct rendering: No
[01:13] <Isaacariah> am i still here?
[01:13] <Isaacariah> Gr, it didnt work
[01:13] <godlygeek> hey, I have an incredibly bizarre problem that i can use some help with - xterm, when launched from zsh, has a different appearance than when launched from bash for me, and i can't figure out why.
[01:14] <lele> any idea?
[01:14] <ChickenTalons> talisein - if its looking for it from the DHCP server itll just get overwritten when I reboot
[01:14] <Xenguy> Cody`: weird
[01:14] <Isaacariah> I STILL had to go into System>Administration>Networking and change profile before my tinternet worked again
[01:14] <cafuego> is xterm aliased from either?
[01:14] <godlygeek> nope
[01:14] <Cody`> Xenguy: Any ideas? I got that from upgrading to edgy
[01:14] <ChickenTalons> Isaacariah, Im sorry man, that sucks
[01:14] <Xenguy> Cody`: yeah -- you upgraded to edgy ;-)
[01:14] <bimberi> Isaacariah: see my post above
[01:15] <ChickenTalons> Isaacariah, honestly, this is why I ended up going with centos over ubuntu for my server
[01:15] <Xenguy> Cody`: it's unstable still, isn't it?
[01:15] <talisein> ChickenTalons: put supercede domain-name in dhclient.conf'
[01:15] <godlygeek> i also did 'export > file' from zsh, and 'source file' from bash - so i don't think it's the environment, either
[01:15] <Mad3Max3> madpilot, just uncomment the universe repository will access me to all those other packages?
[01:15] <Isaacariah> bimberi, I'll give that a try
[01:15] <Isaacariah> cheers
[01:15] <cgardner> Xenguy: It seems to be to me.
[01:15] <ChickenTalons> talisein, ok.
[01:15] <Xenguy> cgardner: haha
[01:15] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, yes, Universe & Multiverse
[01:15] <talisein> ChickenTalons: read dhclient.conf manpage though, just that 1 line alone won't work I don't think
[01:15] <Cody`> Xenguy: unstable is what it's marked, firefox is still the same code. unless it's something borked with the X server
[01:15] <ChickenTalons> talisein, no, it wont.
[01:16] <Xenguy> Cody`: to me that's just the price of admission if you leave the stable tree - sorry
[01:16] <ChickenTalons> talisein, just FYI I read the man - the problem appears to be a disagreement between how the Ubuntu folks think a dhcp server should act and the linksys folk
[01:16] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, didn't find a multiverse thou.. only a backpack, is that the same as mulitverse?
[01:16] <cgardner> Cody`: Have you tried installing edgy from CD rather than upgrading?
[01:16] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, a what
[01:16] <Madpilot> ?
[01:16] <Cody`> cgardner: can't afford to reformat right now. Have too much stuff I'm in the middle of
[01:16] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: backport ?
[01:16] <soundray> What do you make of a message "input irq status -71 received" on plugging a USB device?
[01:17] <Mad3Max3> lol.. yes
[01:17] <talisein> dhclient is written by the Intenet Standards Consortium, so I'll side with them. ;)
[01:17] <Mad3Max3> backport.. not backpack
[01:17] <talisein> err, internet software consortium
[01:17] <cgardner> Cody`: is there anything in your logs after you try launching firefox?
[01:17] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, no, backport is different
[01:17] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: Filename: pool/universe/a/apt-file/apt-file_2.0.7ubuntu5_all.deb
[01:17] <talisein> internet systems consortuyum? whatever.
[01:17] <soundray> ChickenTalons: it's a Linksys router? Teach it some manners, install OpenWrt
[01:17] <ChickenTalons> side, no side, from my POV it hardly matters, im getting things polished out on my workstation
[01:17] <Cody`> cgardner: Where would this log be located?
[01:17] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: apt-cache show apt-file says it's in Universe
[01:17] <marcrosoft> come on, someone has to know how ubuntu handles its startup programs
[01:18] <hutchGuy> !dhclient
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <Cody`> cgardner: the xorg log?
[01:18] <hutchGuy> !dhclient3
[01:18] <ChickenTalons> if I can get it to work the way I want it to I might migrate over from centos
[01:18] <talisein> marcrosoft: what now? ;)
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <cgardner> Cody`: maybe.
[01:18] <talisein> !info dhclient3
[01:18] <Xenguy> !universe
[01:18] <marcrosoft> talisein, im trying to find out if dbus is starting on boot
[01:18] <ubotu> Package dhclient3 does not exist in any distro I know
[01:18] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:18] <hutchGuy> !info dhclient
[01:18] <ubotu> Package dhclient does not exist in any distro I know
[01:18] <Mad3Max3> I hadn't universe uncommented.. im doing that now
[01:18] <ChickenTalons> its nice to play with ubuntu in the meanwhile, it can do things that gentoo can't yet, like run on a core2duo in 64 bit mode
[01:18] <talisein> marcrosoft: it should. I've seen it. ;) Hold on.
[01:18] <Mad3Max3> what is backport?
[01:18] <cgardner> Cody`: also check /var/log/messages for anything that might refer to it.
[01:18] <whyso> OMG ubuntu so SAVED my programming grade today
[01:18] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, multiverse should be on the same line as the universe
[01:19] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: remember to do 'sudo apt-get update' after you uncomment and save
[01:19] <ChickenTalons> whyso, nice!
[01:19] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, backport is newer stuff than is in the main repos, but it's sometimes not totally stable
[01:19] <Xenguy> !backport
[01:19] <Xenguy> blah
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <talisein> marcrosoft: dmesg doesn't seem to capture it. ps -A|grep dbus should tell you  ?
[01:19] <Isaacariah> where does System>Administration>Networking get its settings from?
[01:19] <Cody`> cgardner: nothing
[01:19] <rabautz> marcrosoft: I have edgy and it is in /etc/init.d/ and automatically started.. You can also verify with tool: rcconf
[01:19] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, ok.. it says multiverse on the backport
[01:20] <whyso> I was trying to hand in a project that was late, and the prof would take NO excuses! :( This is like 1/3 of my grade, and i knew i was doomed! just on a whim i said "sudo accept project" and the prof loled and took it AHAHAHAHAH
[01:20] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, it should say multiverse elsewhere too
[01:20] <cgardner> Cody`: I don't know what to say now.
[01:20] <marcrosoft> talisein, its not starting...
[01:20] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: you take newer versions of software, and you port it back to older versions of the distribution
[01:20] <dxdemetriou> Can I define one size for the nautilus for each new folder I create? I don't mean the browser.
[01:20] <marcrosoft> talisein, because i have to start it manually when i get into gnome
[01:20] <marcrosoft> talisein, it causes hald to not start as well
[01:20] <marcrosoft> rabautz, how do i tell it to start on boot?
[01:20] <Xenguy> Mad3Max3: apt-file is no backport BTW
[01:21] <rabautz> Start rcconf in a konsole (perhaps you need to apt-get install)
[01:21] <Mad3Max3> Xenguy, ok
[01:21] <hutchGuy> Does anyone agree that Debian is the father and mother of Ubuntu ?
[01:21] <hutchGuy> :)
[01:21] <Xenguy> hutchGuy: yes
[01:21] <soundray> marcrosoft: try 'sudo update-rc.d dbus defaults'
[01:21] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, it doesn't say multiverse anywhere else
[01:21] <talisein> marcrosoft: try sudo update-rc.d dbus default
[01:21] <LjL> hutchGuy, perhaps, but that is not a support question. join #ubuntu-offtopic for that ;)
[01:21] <talisein> lol
[01:22] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, use the source-o-matic tool again, make sure you selected the multiverse option.
[01:22] <soundray> marcrosoft: talisein got it wrong! :)
[01:22] <talisein> ^^*
[01:22] <marcrosoft> soundray, i see that....   System startup links for /etc/init.d/dbus already exist.
[01:22] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, I never used the tool... im reading from the default one! :)
[01:22] <marcrosoft> soundray, but it must not be starting properly on boot.. which is weird
[01:22] <talisein> marcrosoft: what happens when you sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[01:23] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, even the default one should have multiverse & universe *somewhere*
[01:23] <mrbond82> Whats the "alternate" version of the iso ?
[01:23] <talisein> mrbond82: I think its just a smaller version so it can fit on mini-cds
[01:23] <marcrosoft> talisein, everything goes ok
[01:23] <ClayG> any good guides to getting compiz working on ubuntu?
[01:23] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, can't save the file thou.. it's writeprotected,, how do I make it writeable
[01:23] <marcrosoft> talisein, but on boot it fails to intialize hald
[01:23] <cafuego> mrbond82: a handy cli install that doesn't require the livecd afaik
[01:23] <mrbond82> Why is ubuntu so awesome?
[01:23] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: alternate is for upgrade and for installing your own packages.
[01:23] <marcrosoft> talisein, complaing about dbus not there or something
[01:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell mrbond82 about alternate
[01:23] <marcrosoft> talisein, forget the exact error message
[01:23] <talisein> marcrosoft: what does sudo /etc/init.d/hald restart say now?
[01:23] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, you need to open it w/ sudo.
[01:24] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: Ubuntu is awesome because of people like us.
[01:24] <talisein> ubuntu is what it is because of who we all are
[01:24] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - it should answer most of your questions
[01:24] <hutchGuy> s/us/usall
[01:24] <marcrosoft> talisein, there is not /etc/init.d/hald
[01:24] <mrbond82> I like how there is a lot of people in here... good support network... the buddy system-for linux
[01:24] <bimberi> talisein: right on! :)
[01:24] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, how do I open it with sudo?.. and is there a way the sudo sticks so I don't have to retype my pass all the time?
[01:24] <talisein> gasp
[01:24] <marcrosoft> talisein, its /usr/sbin/hald
[01:24] <Isaacariah> All this time i've been trying to change my mac address so i can get onto a game my brother got banned from
[01:24] <Isaacariah> and i realise
[01:25] <Isaacariah> its not my mac address
[01:25] <whyso> hmmm beagle giving this error, how do i fix? plz help: Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[01:25] <whyso>   Major opcode:  145
[01:25] <whyso>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:25] <whyso>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:25] <marcrosoft> talisein, /etc/init.d/dbus brings up hald
[01:25] <Isaacariah> its my routers
[01:25] <Isaacariah> Crap.
[01:25] <Mark_K> how to mount usb-hdd (i have problem :(
[01:25] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, your sudo pass will last for 15min, you could change this 'stick time' but it does need to time out at some point, just for basic security.
[01:25] <mrbond82> is there any users who have switched from mandriva to ubuntu and can tell me about their experience?
[01:25] <aran> i want to try the most unsupported install i can imagine: migrating a perfectly set up VMWare ubuntu under windows to running natively and dualbooting. anyone have any advice before I start?
[01:25] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot.. how do I change the time?
[01:26] <menko> in what format should ~/.gnomerc be in?
[01:26] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, is there a way to check the status on the sudo..
[01:26] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, right-click on the clock, choose "Adjust Date & Time"
[01:26] <andy_> hi all, for some reason, al of the sudden I cant access my window network (it doesnt show up)
[01:26] <hutchGuy> to anyone who cares, it's not sudo /etc/init.d/<whatever.d>. the *correct* way is to do - sudo invoke-rc.d /etc/init.d/<whatever.d>
[01:26] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, I know you can cancel your sudo access (force a timeout) with 'sudo -k', not sure if there's a way to check if you're still timed-in, though
[01:26] <soundray> mrbond82: this is off-topic, but I'll give you a short reply: I use Mandrake 10.2 at work and Ubuntu at home. Ubuntu is miles easier to maintain and operate.
[01:26] <Mark_K> oh thenk's
[01:27] <SuperMiguel> how cna i set a password for GNUMP3d
[01:27] <mrbond82> soundray -- do you have any mandriva or ubuntu server experience? i run mandriva servers ( a pain to get going )
[01:27] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, sorry,, a badly  asked question from me.. I meant how I change the Sudo time..
[01:27] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, the time until it times out? Hmm... I can't remember, actually... sorry.
[01:27] <talisein> hutchGuy: thanks
[01:27] <ChickenTalons> soundray, heres the problem, I was using sveasoft, and it really SUCKED
[01:28] <Mad3Max3> madpilot, ok
[01:28] <hutchGuy> talisein: no probs.
[01:28] <ivx> what repos do ya'll use to get limewire
[01:28] <menko> must ~/.gnomerc be an executable bash script?
[01:29] <bimberi> Mad3Max3: you set a timestamp_timeout value in the /etc/sudoers file - see 'man sudoers' for more details
[01:29] <ChickenTalons> soundray, I was really disappointed because the sveasoft would work great for a short time and then not all all
[01:29] <Mad3Max3> madpilot, how do I open the file.. with sudo.. can I open files with sudo in the grapical interface?
[01:29] <jcole> i've got a colleague that wants to install ubuntu edgy on a compaq tc4200 tablet pc... any known snags?
[01:29] <ChickenTalons> soundray, but the linksys firmware works perfectly
[01:29] <talisein> marcrosoft: I don't know what to do. Sorry. :)
[01:29] <soundray> mrbond82: servers mostly require some tweaking, so you'll have to use basic tools and edit config files on both. Not a huge difference I reckon.
[01:29] <ChickenTalons> 20 bucks down the toilet
[01:29] <mrbond82> Downloading Ubuntu i386 desktop iso right now on wireless >>> 1800 KB/s
[01:29] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, for tweaking config files, you're better off in the command line
[01:29] <soundray> ChickenTalons: my Sveasoft experience is similar. I'm happy with OpenWrt.
[01:29] <mrbond82> soundray-- is there an equivalent of easy urpmi for ubuntu?
[01:30] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: maybe you need alternate! what are you trying to do ?
[01:30] <dxdemetriou> Please anybody knows where is saved the size of each new folder to open with nautilus? Are too small, and I try to make them all bigger, and not one by one
[01:30] <marcrosoft> talisein, :(
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> any good Streaming Media Server foir ubuntu?
[01:30] <mrbond82> hutchGuy-- install ubuntu on my laptop
[01:30] <ChickenTalons> soundray, hmm ill check it out, my faith has been shattered due to the sveasoft though
[01:30] <marcrosoft> talisein, maybe i fixed it somehow... ill try a restart
[01:30] <talisein> marcrosoft: ok
[01:30] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: install/update. ask you again
[01:30] <aran> rabautz: thanks, what if i give the VM direct access to the partition? i was wondering if running cp -R or something like that might work...
[01:30] <aran> rabautz: (I can't reply in the private message)
[01:30] <ChickenTalons> soundray, i wish I could just take the linksys firmware and add the setting to crank up the signal strength
[01:30] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, ok! I like command line... I was raised with MS-DOS,, and not with windows as the youths today! :D
[01:30] <mrbond82> hutchGuy-- nice clean install of ubuntu
[01:31] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: ok.
[01:31] <andy_>  hi all, for some reason, al of the sudden I cant access my window network (it doesnt show up)
[01:31] <SuperMiguel> mrbond82: what internet connection do you have?
[01:31] <soundray> ChickenTalons: in that case, stick with the original firmware. OpenWrt is a whole different kettle of fish.
[01:31] <rabautz> aran: I'd use cp -a ... That works for me (some years ago andwith some frickling)
[01:31] <mrbond82> SuperMiguel-- wireless ... and I'm at school so they got fibre backbone
[01:31] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: is on 802.n :) hehe.
[01:31] <ChickenTalons> soundray, ok, I am capable of using gentoo, so im not totally clueless about compiling and the such
[01:31] <mrbond82> n.... wow. I didn't even know wireless comes in that letter
[01:32] <hutchGuy> s/802.n/802.11n
[01:32] <rabautz> aran: or tar.
[01:32] <soundray> mrbond82: package management is done with apt-get in Ubuntu. There are good&easy graphical and curses-based frontends.
[01:32] <ChickenTalons> nothing against ubuntu but ive been heartbroken to discover I couldnt use gentoo on my core2duo in 64 bit mode
[01:32] <Flannel> ChickenTalons: you sound like you want HyperWRT, but this is not the place, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:32] <mrbond82> gentoo is the linux that is completely compiled for your machine right?
[01:32] <talisein> There are linux drivers for MIMO?
[01:32] <ChickenTalons> Flannel, OMFG I thought I was IN there already - I never would have talked about this stuff in here!!
[01:32] <Flannel> ChickenTalons: why shouldn't you be able to?
[01:32] <mrbond82> soundray-- is it setup like urpmi there are repositoroies and you can install anything you want off the net?
[01:32] <mcquaid> hey everyone go rape adobe web site. flash 9 for linux!!!
[01:32] <soundray> mrbond82: yes
[01:32] <ChickenTalons> Flannel, gentoo can't do it yet.
[01:32] <mcquaid> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[01:33] <talisein> flash 9 is out?
[01:33] <mrbond82> Does ubuntu have that wicked aiglx 3D desktop effects thing for gnome?
[01:33] <aran> rabautz: thanks. if you're around when I'm done I'll you know how it went!
[01:34] <mcquaid> talisein, thats what i  said ;) going to install it now
[01:34] <talisein> mrbond82: Edgy has AIGLX, but the compositor effects in metacity are not turned on.
[01:34] <talisein> downlaod ing now ;)
[01:34] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: xgl
[01:34] <andy_>  hi all, for some reason, al of the sudden I cant access my window network (it doesnt show up), can someone help me?
[01:34] <soundray> talisein: apparently flash 9 is out. Not for 64bit though.
[01:34] <rabautz> aran: k, good luck! ;)
[01:34] <AdamMK> wut do i need to install to get the command ./configure to work?
[01:34] <talisein> AdamMK: you need to tell us what .configure is failing on.
[01:35] <FusE> I have a problem, Im attempting to install ntfs-3g, which requires me to edit sources.lst, but when in the terminal, I type gedit source.lst (as root) but it says cannot display: (null)
[01:35] <soundray> AdamMK: normally it would work by itself. You do want to install build-essential though.
[01:35] <mrbond82> hutchGuy-- I got mandriva 07 right now and I'm not happy with it a lot of my common applications crash so I'm thinking of switching to another.. I just go really used to this metacity 3D effects ... can I enable them in ubuntu 6.06-1 ?
[01:35] <whyso> is edgy officially released?
[01:35] <AdamMK> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:35] <marcrosoft> that didnt work.... but once i boot up and get to gnome and run /etc/init.d/dbus start... everything starts just fine... wtf?
[01:35] <LjL> whyso: no
[01:35] <raintheory> whyso: not yet
[01:35] <LjL> !tell whyso about schedule
[01:35] <whyso> ah ok thanks
[01:35] <raintheory> !iso
[01:35] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:35] <raintheory> !mount iso
[01:35] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[01:35] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: mandriva is mandrake offshoot.. just use [k/u/x] buntu.. it's great!
[01:36] <soundray> FusE: open a user terminal and type 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:36] <talisein> AdamMK: You need to be in the same directory as the configure script. What are you trying to install?
[01:36] <dxdemetriou> Maybe I wasn't clear what I want to do. It is like the post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22858&highlight=nautilus+size
[01:36] <raintheory> anyone know the best way to mount an iso in ubuntu?
[01:36] <LogicalDash> Does the Kubuntu LiveCD contain Qparted?
[01:36] <raintheory> or nrg file?
[01:36] <hutchGuy> ever since I switched from rh core2, it's been great os!!!
[01:36] <hutchGuy> and if you like speed then ice wm is for you.
[01:36] <LjL> LogicalDash: i seem to recall it does, but cannot swear on it
[01:36] <soundray> raintheory: 'sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt'
[01:36] <Shish> raintheory: you mount isos... in exactly the way ubotu told you to :-/
[01:36] <mrbond82> i like my gnome
[01:36] <mrbond82> it has everything I need :D
[01:36] <hutchGuy> :)
[01:36] <AdamMK> 1 sec taliein
[01:36] <hutchGuy> but Gnome is greate. I use it 99% of the time. :)
[01:37] <LogicalDash> !qparted
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <sally_> back in the day there was a linux.words file that had a list of dictionary words, is there a similar file now ?  I need a list of dicitonary words for a program I am writing
[01:37] <FusE> umm, can anyone tell me how I can edit sources.lst, because it keeps saying cannot display (null)
[01:37] <mrbond82> kde scared me
[01:37] <LogicalDash> k that didn't work
[01:37] <mrbond82> it was too much like windows :(
[01:37] <Shish> !qtparted
[01:37] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[01:37] <hutchGuy> KDE is good but I find it very bulky.
[01:37] <soundray> FusE: open a *user* terminal and type 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:37] <Shish> sally_: /usr/share/dict, IIRC
[01:37] <mrbond82> kde.. yeah its like using a backhoe to dig a sandcastle
[01:37] <hutchGuy> right now using dual screen :P... greate peice.
[01:37] <LogicalDash> So, probably not on the Kubuntu disc then.
[01:37] <FusE> Ok ill try
[01:37] <cafuego> Not to whine, but Gnome is actually bulkier then kde.
[01:38] <FusE> sounrday, (gksudo:28274): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:38] <FusE> soundray*
[01:38] <wastrel> heelo
[01:38] <hutchGuy> Cafuego: canonical people have made good decision to use Gnome than KDE. it's bulky!
[01:38] <mrbond82> how good is ubuntu's support for switching between monitor and external monitor or S-Video output on a laptop? or do I still have to do some fancy xorg config file editing?
[01:38] <soundray> FusE: you did that as root again, didn't you?
[01:38] <FusE> yes
[01:38] <mrbond82> !kde
[01:38] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:38] <raintheory> so i assume I have to create a writable mountpoint first before actually trying to mount an iso?
[01:38] <FusE> root@ubuntu:~# gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:38] <sally_> Shish, you're the man
[01:38] <raintheory> does this methos work with nrg files?
[01:38] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, how do I open the sources.list in console using Sudo. so I get write access to it?
[01:38] <Crippy-Boy> FusE: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:38] <hutchGuy> mrbond82: you have to hack you xorg.conf file. that's it!
[01:38] <soundray> FusE: read my instructions *very* carefully
[01:38] <visik_> flash 9 beta for linux is OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:39] <mr_lampe> lol
[01:39] <La_PaRCa> Where can I find the ISO for the Ubuntu LiveDVD?
[01:39] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:39] <FunnyLookinHat> visik_, WHERE?
[01:39] <FusE> ok lol
[01:39] <FusE> sorry
[01:39] <mrbond82> hutchGuy -- no way to make an easy Fn+key to switch from monitor to the output screen ?
[01:39] <FusE> nano worked
[01:39] <cafuego> FusE: The poij to gksudo is that you don't need to 'su' first. (or at all!)
[01:39] <marcrosoft> so when the system starts up dbus/hal does not work, yet once i get to gnome and manually start dbus via (/etc/init.d/dbus start)... everything comes up just fine and dandy
[01:39] <bruenig> Fuse, if you already have the #, why are you using gksudo, just gedit
[01:39] <visik_> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:39] <FusE> bruenig, tried that
[01:39] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, what is gksudo?
[01:39] <mr_lampe> i hate flash!
[01:39] <bimberi> why isn't flash 9 in the repos, geez i dunno, so slow, c'mon :P
[01:39] <cafuego> bruenig: His DISPLAY is undet because he ran 'su', so X apps won't work.
[01:39] <LjL> bimberi: shut up and make a package now!
[01:39] <bruenig> ah,
[01:39] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, its' the graphical version of sudo, to launch Gnome's graphical stuff like gedit
[01:39] <bimberi> LjL: :)
[01:40] <cafuego> FusE: Close the root shell and run the gksudo command as normal user. problem solved.
[01:40] <Crippy-Boy> bimberi: i assume they dont update the packages untill theyre stable, it'd be a bit silly to have the latest versions of software in the repo's, Install it manually if you want it
[01:40] <FusE> nano worked thanks
[01:40] <visik_> bimberi: is out since 2 or 3 hours
[01:40] <bimberi> Crippy-Boy, visik_: thanks.  i was joking though :)
[01:41] <bruenig> wait is flash 9 out?
[01:41] <cgardner> bruenig: Flash 9 beta is out.
[01:41] <bruenig> link anyone?
[01:41] <kivio> yes
[01:41] <Crippy-Boy> I hate flash, it should die a painful death.
[01:41] <cgardner> it works just fine too.
[01:41] <soundray> bimberi: remember to use tags: <joke>text...</joke>
[01:41] <kivio> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:41] <cafuego> www.crashmybrowser.com/flash
[01:41] <joeCoT> it's not 64 bit, right? i need to run it with a wrapper?
[01:42] <bimberi> soundray: sigh, i though a ":P" sould suffice
[01:42] <bimberi> *would
[01:42] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, I got a warning when doing that.  GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:42] <Mad3Max3> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:42] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, but did gedit start anyway?
[01:42] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, yes
[01:42] <talisein> well, youtube works.
[01:43] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, thats nothing to pay attention too then?
[01:43] <Crippy-Boy> Youtube should also die :-)
[01:43] <loquitus_of_borg> Can anybody tell me what these errors mean? http://paste.husk.org/6941
[01:43] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, I'm sure that warning means something, but in practice it doesn't seem to matter
[01:43] <marshall_> FLASH 9 BABY!!!!
[01:43] <marshall_> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[01:43] <marshall_> ITS OUT GET IT GET IT
[01:43] <marshall_> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[01:43] <ivx> marshall_ you installed it already
[01:43] <talisein> does anyone know what blog broke the news? ;)
[01:43] <marshall_> lol
[01:43] <Crippy-Boy> blogs should die too
[01:44] <marshall_> ivx: no im on windoze right now, i heard it in the archlinux channel
[01:44] <hutchGuy> just tested my new theme manager.. :P greate!
[01:44] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: looks bad. Better back up your data and order a new hard disk.
[01:44] <cgardner> Crippy-Boy: should the internet just die so you can live?
[01:44] <hutchGuy> and also the gdm's looking good.. sweet!
[01:44] <visik_> hundred of flash 9 sites a day and no one when I need one
[01:44] <hutchGuy> :P
[01:44] <talisein> sweet, I can finally check out www.wii.com
[01:44] <mr_lampe> xD
[01:44] <Crippy-Boy> cgardner, Nah, i have my reasons for wanting what i said to die though :-)
[01:44] <mrbond82> why is windows so bad?
[01:44] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, do I have to do anything now to get the sources.list loaded with the new values?
[01:44] <marcrosoft> anyone have any idea why dbus/hal will not start on boot, but it will start manually once in gnome?
[01:45] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, 'sudo apt-get update' after you save & close
[01:45] <soundray> mrbond82: maybe you should head over to
[01:45] <krazykit> ha, glad i checked this channel a second ago
[01:45] <rabautz> marcrosoft: No information in syslog or messages?
[01:45] <soundray> mrbond82: maybe you should head over to #windows to find out.
[01:45] <bruenig> wow, it works alongside external sounds and has no sync problems
[01:45] <soundray> mrbond82: or whatever the channel is called
[01:45] <marcrosoft> rabautz, i have tried cat /var/log/message | grep hald and dbus
[01:45] <marcrosoft> rabautz, it doesnt come up with anything
[01:45] <SuperMiguel> any good meadi server?
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> media*
[01:46] <rabautz> marcrosoft: And syslog?
[01:46] <marcrosoft> rabautz, do you have any other words to try to find in messages?
[01:46] <marcrosoft> rabautz, how do you check that?
[01:46] <loquitus_of_borg> soundray: so this is a physical thing... I can't just reformat and hope that reformatting would mark the bad sectors away?
[01:46] <Crippy-Boy> cgardner, is a shitty format and should be replaced by something decent, Youtube is for emo kids that have nothing better to do than annoy everyone else, And blogs [mostly]  are for people to bitch about their life and bore people
[01:46] <Crippy-Boy> flash is **
[01:46] <mcquaid> hmm, i wanted to try flash 9 in my home first, where should the plugins dir be exactly
[01:47] <krazykit> !language > Crippy-Boy
[01:47] <mcquaid> i created plugins dir under the profile where the extensions dir is
[01:47] <Cody`> cgardner: found the issue. DefaultDepth 16. needs to be 24
[01:47] <Crippy-Boy> :D
[01:47] <mighty_falcon> how would one go to get the cube thingy in bery?
[01:47] <cgardner> Cody`: good job
[01:47] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: you could do that, but I personally tend to get jittery at the slightest sign of disk trouble.
[01:47] <Crippy-Boy> I sometimes forget about the language thing
[01:47] <Crippy-Boy> Sorry
[01:47] <Crippy-Boy> :D
[01:47] <mighty_falcon> sure i can switch and see all the animations when i swicth desktops but i wanna take a look at the cibe i see so much in the screenies
[01:47] <fnf> marcrosoft: Try booting in 'noisy' mode (that is, no 'quiet splash' in the parameter list), usually it would give a result when starting a service.
[01:47] <AsheD> how does one add additional screen resolution options?
[01:48] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: I'd rather spend a couple extra hours working for money than fiddling with unreliable hardware.
[01:48] <marcrosoft> fnf, how do i do that :)
[01:48] <goofy> anyone know a good guide to install 3d acceleration for a nvidia card
[01:48] <LjL> !fixres > AsheD
[01:48] <visik_> I need a flash 9 site
[01:48] <rabautz> marcrosoft: Same way like with messages but using syslog .. You find all those logs under /var/log ... I have something about syslog in daemon.log
[01:48] <LjL> !ati > goofy
[01:48] <bimberi> !nvidia > goofy
[01:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell goofy about nvidia
[01:48] <visik_> com'on
[01:48] <LjL> visik_: join #ubuntu-offtopic
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[01:48] <goofy> thanks
[01:49] <mighty_falcon> no one knows how to get the cube in beryl??
[01:49] <LjL> !beryl > mighty_falcon
[01:49] <rabautz> !nvidia > rabautz
[01:49] <marcrosoft> rabautz, Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or dir ectory
[01:49] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:49] <marcrosoft> rabautz, i guess it is failing on boot with that message?? but works once in gnome...
[01:49] <mighty_falcon> !beryl
[01:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:49] <marcrosoft> rabautz, well after i manually start is
[01:50] <fnf> marcrosoft: In grub menu, press 'e' on the kernel you want to boot then modify the line which has 'initrd', you should see 'quiet splash' (Ubuntu put them in here by default for a nice splash screen), you may also put vga=792 for higher resolution if desired.
[01:50] <basd> Hello......I have a totally unrelated question....can anyone guide me where to find IRC channels for SAP????
[01:50] <loquitus_of_borg> soundray: agreed
[01:50] <LjL> basd, for totally unrelated questions, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[01:50] <marcrosoft> fnf, ok, ill try that now...
[01:51] <mrbond82> okay guys I'm out to get a blank cd and try this out later!! hopefullyy all will work out okay!
[01:51] <marcrosoft> fnf, does that error message i sent to rabautz help identify the problem?
[01:51] <basd> thank you ljl
[01:51] <rabautz> marcrosoft: I have same message in my daemon.log .. thought you might have some more ;) What about the way fnf told about ...
[01:51] <PumpkinPie> you're a SAP BIZNATCH
[01:51] <marcrosoft> rabautz, ill try that now... brb
[01:52] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to set a password for GNUMP3d??
[01:52] <pantaloon> heyhey
[01:52] <fnf> marcrosoft: Sorry, I know nothing about that service, it is possible that your service needs GNOME to start successfully though. Has it worked before ?
[01:52] <kmu> anyone ever install a samsung ml-2010 printer?
[01:52] <LjL> SuperMiguel: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/securing.html
[01:52] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, my seaches with apt-file doesn't display any results.. I seached for thing i know exsists
[01:52] <AsheD> so, that didn't work so well
[01:53] <pantaloon> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper? i get a fatal error
[01:53] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, apt-file search apt-file
[01:53] <AsheD> !fixres
[01:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:53] <mcquaid> hmm i'm trying a lot of the flash games at http://www.games1.org/ and they still don't work with flash 9
[01:53] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, I don't use apt-file myself, not sure of the details
[01:53] <mcquaid> actually a couple of games that used to work don't anymore
[01:53] <LjL> Madpilot, Mad3Max3: what are you trying to do?
[01:53] <soundray> kmu: what's the problem?
[01:54] <Mad3Max3> LjL, searching for packages with apt-file
[01:54] <LjL> Mad3Max3: apt-file search <part-of-a-filename>
[01:54] <LjL> Mad3Max3: what file are you looking for precisely?
[01:54] <Code-E> Why is Quake 2 not in the repositories
[01:55] <Mad3Max3> LjL, doing that generates this error : bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:55] <SB|nblracer> if i already have a 500MB partion that is not formatted
[01:55] <Code-E> !quake 2 > code-e
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quake 2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <Code-E> :@
[01:55] <SB|nblracer> can i use mkswap -c /dev/hdd2
[01:56] <SB|nblracer> and will it make it the whole 500.0mb
[01:56] <DaveyJ> ALAS!
[01:56] <LjL> Mad3Max3: what is the command that are you typing, precisely?
[01:56] <Mad3Max3> LjL, apt-file search <wine>
[01:57] <talisein> flash 9 has some bugs ;)
[01:57] <soundray> SB|nblracer: please don't use enter for punctuation. Yes, it should.
[01:57] <fnf> Mad3Max3, apt-cache search wine
[01:57] <cafuego> So what else is new.
[01:57] <DaveyJ> now i hear theres extra plllugins?
[01:57] <DaveyJ> :)
[01:57] <kmu> soundray, well i installed the software that came with it. then i opened samsung's "unified driver configurator", clicked Add Printer, next, next, next, "Success!", clicked "test". nothing. no page printed. no printer added to my printer list :(
[01:57] <SB|nblracer> Ok sorry about that. soundray
[01:57] <LjL> Mad3Max3, no, when we use that <something> syntax, we simply mean that you should substitute that with the actual thing you want to type
[01:58] <at0miku> anybody know of a good guide on how to net install ubuntu using windows as the server thing? I found one tutorial, but thats outdated and doesnt work
[01:58] <AlienX> what's a good app to sync a pocket pc app in linux
[01:58] <at0miku> plus I dont think my old computer has the ability to net install, so I also need to know how to create a floppy disk to start the net install :D
[01:58] <soundray> kmu: there seem to be a few hints here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-2010
[01:58] <kmu> soundray, thanks, i'll take a look right now
[01:59] <loquitus_of_borg> soundray: so if I try to reformat this thing remotely (the machine is about 1 hr drive away), is it possible it could hard lock on me again?
[01:59] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok.. tried without the < > first.. and got no hits.. get results using apt-cache search wine.. can't see why ppl said I should use apt-file
[01:59] <Rockj> hum, anyone here who can guide me abit with xgl and Beryl? I've added the beerorkid deb repos, which worked flawless earlier on my laptop today, and now I can't find the package beryl =/
[01:59] <Rockj> any other suggested deb repos for Beryl ?
[02:00] <fnf> Mad3Max3, I'm actually surprised if there was apt-file command.
[02:00] <LjL> fnf: there is
[02:00] <LjL> Mad3Max3: i don't know, i haven't followed the entire discussion. what is the ultimate goal you're trying to reach?
[02:00] <Mad3Max3> fnf, it was a package I installed.. apt-file I mean
[02:00] <soundray> kmu: does it show up when you enter 'lsusb'?
[02:00] <AsheD> I forgot, how do I use a .run file?
[02:00] <ArrenLex> Does Flash 9 totally not work for anyone else? It just freezes my browser.
[02:00] <ChickenTalons> oh well.
[02:01] <fnf> LjL, there is ? It's possible that Ubuntu server doesn't install it along.
[02:01] <Mad3Max3> LjL, my goal is world domination .. :) but first im aiming at a working Linux solution! lol
[02:01] <LjL> fnf: no, indeed, it's not a standard command, you have to install a package... it can be a useful one though
[02:01] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: of course it's possible. How are you going to reformat -- with badblocks checking?
[02:01] <fnf> Mad3Max3, LjL: I see.
[02:01] <kivio> where can i find the kernel config?
[02:01] <LjL> Mad3Max3: ok :-) but can you be more specific? you're trying to install Wine, or what?
[02:01] <kivio> i want to compile my own kernel
[02:01] <rabautz> Rockj: there is a channel #ubuntu-xgl.. which distri?
[02:02] <soundray> kivio: in /boot/
[02:02] <Rockj> rabautz: using ubuntu dapper .
[02:02] <soundray> !kernelcompile >kivio
[02:02] <rabautz> Rockj: i have edgy .. ;(
[02:02] <loquitus_of_borg> soundray: was thinking ext3 maybe
[02:02] <kivio> !kernelcompile
[02:02] <kivio> thx
[02:02] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:02] <Rockj> rabautz:   :/
[02:02] <Mad3Max3> LjL, well.. im trying the apt-file functions.. and so far it doesn't work...
[02:03] <LjL> Mad3Max3: alright, but forget apt-file for a minute -- *what* are you trying to accomplish, besides making apt-file work?
[02:03] <Shadow_mil> 8 days!
[02:03] <Mad3Max3> LjL, wanted to see if the searching worked in apt-file
[02:03] <AsheD> how do I use a .run file?
[02:03] <LjL> Mad3Max3: have you run "sudo apt-file update" first? you need to do that, for it to work
[02:03] <Shadow_mil> 8 days til repo's go down and never come back
[02:03] <fnf> Mad3Max3, 'apt-cache show apt-file' told me it is used for searching a file in a package, but you probbaly need to search the package itself.
[02:03] <at0miku> Anybody know of a good guide on how to netinstall unbuntu using windows as the file server thing? I think I also need a guide on how to create a boot disk that starts the net install because my old computer doesnt support net install
[02:04] <Mad3Max3> LjL, that might be it.. havn't done that
[02:04] <ArrenLex> AsheD: chmod +x <file.run> && ./file.run
[02:04] <LjL> AsheD: it's probably a binary executable. you need to run it. however, it's not adviced that you run third-party binaries... what is it?
[02:04] <cgray> I have followed the same procedures to get M$ videos playing in Edgy that I followed for Dapper but to no avail. Anyone know what works?
[02:04] <AsheD> LjL: its a video driver for my GPU
[02:04] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: you can try 'mke2fs -c -c -j /dev/hdcX' to have the best chance of fixing things. But really, bad blocks occurring in a newer hard disk is a sign of impending doom ;)
[02:05] <LjL> AsheD: ouch. i hope you're aware that installing a *driver* that way could cause trouble... and also that Ubuntu makes binary drivers for NVidia and ATI cards (and others) available through the repositories...?
[02:05] <AsheD> LjL: no, I did not know that
[02:05] <Mad3Max3> LjL, do I have to do that everytime I install a package?.. the update i mean
[02:05] <LjL> !ati > ashed
[02:05] <rabautz> LjL: AsheD: Isn't there a command to check what kind of program or with what kind of program to open a specific file?
[02:05] <LjL> Mad3Max3: no
[02:05] <talisein> cgray: Goto mplayer's website, they have a codec pack you can install to /usr/local/codecs or something (read the readme), and use mplayer. That will work.
[02:05] <LjL> rabautz, AsheD: yes, "file <filename>"
[02:06] <AsheD> !nvidia
[02:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:06] <cgray> talisein: Thanks
[02:06] <rabautz> Thx LjL
[02:06] <Heart_> hi.... are there any 2.x debs for ubuntu out there?
[02:06] <LjL> Heart_: "2.x" what?
[02:06] <soundray> Heart_: what?
[02:07] <Heart_> 2.0.2
[02:07] <Heart_> gnucash
[02:07] <Heart_> sorry
[02:07] <Jbirk> Hi
[02:07] <Jbirk> i am missing all of my desktop icons
[02:07] <Jbirk> I had them all yesterday, but today they are all gone
[02:07] <jrib> Jbirk: can you right click on your desktop and get a menu?
[02:08] <Jbirk> No :(
[02:08] <strabes> jbirk: there's a setting in gconf-editor about showing icons; let me find it for you
[02:08] <Madpilot> Jbirk, they're on vacation, they'll send you a nice postcard ;)
[02:08] <talisein> Heart_: even edgy only has 2.0.1-3 =(
[02:08] <unstable> FeistyFawn is the new ubuntu name for edgy+1; Ubuntu 7.04
[02:08] <Jbirk> I used to be able too
[02:08] <jrib> Jbirk: but now you can't?
[02:08] <talisein> Oh, FeistyFawn? cool.
[02:08] <Heart_> hmm :(
[02:08] <Jbirk> no sir
[02:08] <LjL> Heart_: there are in Edgy, which is scheduled to be released on 26th this month
[02:08] <Jbirk> I cannot right click
[02:08] <Jbirk> I used to be able too and all was good
[02:08] <soundray> Heart_: no, the latest in edgy is 2.0.1
[02:08] <LjL> talisein, you're mistaken (or possibly packages.ubuntu.com is mistaken), there is version 2.0.2 available
[02:09] <bruenig> sneaky snake gets shutout again
[02:09] <soundray> Oops, Heart_, I take it all back. Thanks LjL
[02:09] <LjL> oooh whops. sorry talisein, soundray and Heart_, *i* was mistaken. i was running that command on an SSH session to a Debian =)
[02:09] <jrib> Jbirk: run 'gconf-editor' in a terminal.  is /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop checked?
[02:09] <LjL> i mean, i was checking for that package there
[02:10] <talisein> lol.
[02:10] <Rockj> how can I set ubuntu to use iso-8859-1 everywhere? (utf8 causes abit pain for me)
[02:10] <kmu> soundray, yes, the printer shows up: Bus 003 Device 006: ID 04e8:326c Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[02:10] <chuckyp> Yay flash 9
[02:10] <chuckyp> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html
[02:10] <talisein> i just updated on my edgy, no change. I suspect that Ubuntu's 2.0.1 version will have some of the fixes from 2.0.2 in it.
[02:10] <soundray> kmu: that's one potential diagnosis excluded
[02:10] <Jbirk> yes
[02:10] <Jbirk> Yes, it is checked
[02:11] <chuckyp> Finally released it thought it would never happen
[02:11] <Heart_> talisein: also gnucash-hbci is in there?
[02:11] <jrib> Jbirk: killall nautilus
[02:11] <kmu> soundray, yeah, i didn't know about lsusb
[02:11] <foolswisdom> howdy ubuntuers, from the terminal, is there a command to open a file in what would open it if I clicked the file on the desktop?
[02:11] <soundray> foolswisdom: gnome-open
[02:11] <AsheD> how do I see which kernel I have again?
[02:11] <LjL> AsheD: uname -r
[02:11] <soundray> foolswisdom: I have an alias go=gnome-open :)
[02:11] <Jbirk> root@ubserver:~# killall nautilus
[02:11] <Jbirk> nautilus: no process killed
[02:12] <Jbirk> I am confused
[02:12] <Toma-> foolswisdom: you want mime types from the CLI?
[02:12] <Jbirk> nautilus isn't even running apparently
[02:12] <jrib> Jbirk: hmm start nautilus
[02:12] <foolswisdom> soundray: you rock hard!
[02:12] <talisein> Heart_: Not a seperate package, but there is a libhbci that probably hooks into it
[02:12] <Jbirk> how do I do that?
[02:12] <strabes> jbirk: type nautilus in console
[02:12] <Heart_> k
[02:12] <strabes> then type killall nautilus
[02:12] <Jbirk> root@ubserver:~# nautilus
[02:12] <Jbirk> (nautilus:6119): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:13] <Jbirk> What does that mean?
[02:13] <jrib> Jbirk: just start it as your normal user, go to places > Home for example
[02:13] <strabes> jbirk: get out of the root terminal
[02:13] <strabes> it's dangerous :)
[02:13] <bruenig> Jbirk, if youw ant to open nautilus as root exit out of the root terminal and do gksudo
[02:13] <bruenig> you want*
[02:13] <AlienX> what's a good app to sync a pocket pc app in linux? I've installed synce-kde and haven't quite figured out why it won't run
[02:13] <chuckyp> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html    FLASH 9  YO EVERYONE  FINALLY *******************
[02:13] <Jbirk> gksudo is missing
[02:14] <LjL> AlienX: good luck. me neither ;-)
[02:14] <J-_> i have a stand alone server running, i'm using ssh to access the server, when i upload to the server the ssh session freezes. i'm mounting the server(xubuntu LAMP) with ubuntu(my desktop). any suggestions?
[02:14] <AlienX> LjL, heh cheers
[02:14] <Jbirk> nautilus opened a file browser
[02:14] <Rockj> under install of ubuntu alternative iso-image, how can I specify  expert option? ( I guess I can change charset there? )
[02:14] <j-swim> how do I clear all my old packages from apt?
[02:14] <bruenig> flash 9 is working really well too
[02:14] <Xenodamus> hi, I'm having problems with GRUB.  It doesn't seem to load at all.  All I get is a blank screen with GRUB written and a blinking cursor, and it doesn't take any input.
[02:14] <LjL> j-swim: sudo apt-get clean
[02:14] <jrib> Jbirk: apt-get clean,  see 'man aptpget'
[02:14] <Jbirk> and my icons are back
[02:14] <soundray> AlienX: syncing with PocketPC is a major pain. Check handhelds.org to see if Familiar Linux is available for your PDA yet :)
[02:14] <Madpilot> chuckyp, thank you for spamming, we know about Flash9beta
[02:14] <j-swim> thx
[02:14] <Jbirk> apt-get clean what?
[02:14] <bruenig> j-swim, sudo apt-get clean
[02:14] <Jbirk> yeah, but what package do I clean?
[02:15] <jrib> Jbirk: erm ignore that
[02:15] <soundray> AlienX: hold on, I'll dig up the forum link on multisync
[02:15] <chuckyp> Madpilot, K didn't know
[02:15] <Jbirk> thanks
[02:15] <Jbirk> my icons are back
[02:15] <AlienX> soundray, thanks. I appreciate it.
[02:15] <LjL> Jbirk, that command would simply "clean the cache", i.e. remove all the .deb packages that were downloaded to a temporary directory
[02:15] <Jbirk> why did I have to manually run nautilus?
[02:15] <strabes> jbirk
[02:15] <LjL> Madpilot: was about time :-P
[02:15] <at0miku> Anybody know of a good guide on how to netinstall unbuntu using windows as the file server thing? I think I also need a guide on how to create a boot disk that starts the net install because my old computer doesnt support net install
[02:15] <strabes> run gconf-editor
[02:15] <Jbirk> oh
[02:15] <jrib> Jbirk: it probably died on your for some reason
[02:15] <Jbirk> I C
[02:15] <Jbirk> Thanks for fixng me up
[02:15] <Jbirk> why did nautilus not start automatically?
[02:16] <Madpilot> LjL, yeah, now we can just thump people with "read the /topic" ;)
[02:16] <ChickenTalons> Jbirk, it usually is...
[02:16] <Jbirk> it ususally is what?
[02:16] <Jbirk> It always started before today
[02:16] <soundray> AlienX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[02:16] <AlienX> soundray, cheers. I'll check it out
[02:17] <barata> hallo geeks ... what would be the CONSEQUENCES if I mkisofs WITHOUT the -J switch?
[02:17] <Rockj> under install of ubuntu alternative iso-image, how can I specify  expert option? ( I guess I can change charset there? )
[02:17] <Rockj> use F6 and  remove all boot options and type  expert ?
[02:17] <UdontKnow> barata: windows users will see only short names
[02:17] <UdontKnow> barata: which is kinda cool to screw your windoze-user friends
[02:18] <strabes> jbirk: run gconf-editor, then go to apps, nautilus, preferences, and make sure show_desktop is checked. That will fix your problem permanently I believe
[02:18] <j-swim> can anyone tell me how to completely remove vmware-server ? I want to try and reinstall it
[02:18] <blanny> Failed to fetch http://kalug.linux.org.tw/~chihchun/debian/dists/unstable/yaph/binary-i386/Packages.gz 301 Moved Permanently
[02:18] <ChickenTalons> strabes, I find gconf-editor a very frightening tool
[02:18] <fibonaccixp\> hi all
[02:18] <rabautz> j-swim: apt-get remove --purge vmware-server?
[02:18] <blanny> anyone get that today when they were upgrading?
[02:19] <strabes> chickentalons: good thing you don't have the problem that uses it then huh!
[02:19] <ChickenTalons> strabes, ill be shying away from XGL too
[02:19] <j-swim> rabautz: well its not a package
[02:19] <dabaR> blanny: remove that line from sources.list
[02:19] <Jbirk> It is checked
[02:19] <Jbirk> thanks though
[02:19] <AlienX> soundray, looks like that's what I need
[02:19] <strabes> chickentalons: ok lol why did you tell me that? have i talked to you before?
[02:19] <blanny> k thanks dabaR
[02:20] <strabes> chickentalons: i'm not a big fan of xgl - it looks sweet but it's too buggy and unstable
[02:20] <ezenu3> Anyone have any idea how one would automate the process of filling out this form ( http://ritmvs.rit.edu:83/XWEBCONV/CWBA/XSMBWEBM/SR085.STR?INIT=YES&CONVTOKEN=INIT ) -- then parsing output for something (easy part)? I've tried curl, python urllib, etc..
[02:20] <ChickenTalons> strabes, I believe you helped me set up gnome before
[02:20] <ChickenTalons> a while ago
[02:20] <ChickenTalons> strabes, I wholeheartedly agree
[02:20] <strabes> chickentalons: earlier today?
[02:20] <soundray> AlienX: be patient, it always takes me several attempts to get the connection up.
[02:20] <rabautz> j-swim: Sry, i thought i had seen a package of it ..
[02:20] <ChickenTalons> strabes, earlier as in 9-10 months ago - and I could be mistaken about that.
[02:20] <fibonaccixp\> i have installed gnome via synaptic but the alt-F2 switch does not work. i found the setting in the shortcut section and it's properly set. what can be the problem?
[02:21] <Xenodamus> ummm... can anyone help me find out what the problem is with GRUB?
[02:21] <strabes> chickentalons: yeah you are lol this is the first day i've ever bothered to join this IRC channel
[02:21] <bruenig> !anyone
[02:21] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:21] <ChickenTalons> strabes, ive got to lay off the narcotics.
[02:21] <strabes> chickentalons: haha
[02:21] <Vuen> heya #ubuntu
[02:21] <Vuen> what would be a good software on ubuntu for converting video files to mp4?
[02:21] <soundray> fibonaccixp\: are you on a laptop? The combination may be mapped to a hardware function.
[02:21] <AlienX> soundray, absolutely :)
[02:22] <fibonaccixp\> no soundray , deskto
[02:22] <barata> UdontKnow, 'short names' but not 'screwed up names', right? Like 'i love you.mp3' becomes &*^%&^%$%^!@#3
[02:22] <fibonaccixp\> *desktop
[02:22] <Vuen> in other words, i'm looking for encoding software for a video ipod
[02:22] <sixseat> ok i have a question, but no idea if ill be able to get a word in
[02:22] <sixseat> im getting a blank screen on what i think is a flash popup window
[02:22] <sixseat> and have no idea what to do
[02:23] <joeCoT> bah, flash 9 was enough to make me give up and just use 32 bit iceweasel
[02:23] <strabes> sixseat: in your browser?
[02:23] <strabes> what browser do you use?
[02:23] <sixseat> im using the firefox that came with the ubuntu release
[02:23] <soundray> fibonaccixp\: does it work when you add the "Run Application" utility to the panel and click on it?
[02:23] <rabautz> j-swim: There is an uninstall-skript (locate vmware|grep uninstall)
[02:23] <Vuen> anyone know of any good video conversion software for linux?
[02:23] <sixseat> i dont know what that is
[02:23] <strabes> try "killall firefox"
[02:23] <ChickenTalons> wait a minute - isnt the firefox in the 64 bit ubuntu 32 bit?
[02:24] <j-swim> i know
[02:24] <ChickenTalons> I was pretty sure it was b/c mplayer plugin worked on it and so did old flash
[02:24] <talisein> do the plugins have to be the same bit format?
[02:24] <sixseat> 1.5.07 is what is installed now
[02:24] <soundray> ChickenTalons: no, it isn't. You can install a 32bit version if you want to, but the repo version is 64bit
[02:24] <rabautz> and a manual for unsinstalling - if that doesn't help - no idea ..
[02:24] <ChickenTalons> talisein, the plugins are supposed to be in the same format as the browser
[02:24] <sixseat> not sure if the updater changed the version or not
[02:24] <barata> hi ... anybody can install mplayer after the upgraded Ubuntu?
[02:25] <fibonaccixp\> soundray, yes
[02:25] <ChickenTalons> soundray, im very surprised at that, I didnt know old flash HAD a 64 bit plugin
[02:25] <talisein> barata: ? I have mplayer installed in Edgy.
[02:25] <jrib> barata: upgraded to what version?
[02:25] <sixseat> i actually think the updater put me to a newer flash version that is incompatible with the website i am using
[02:25] <joeCoT> bah, flash 9 was enough to make me give up and just use 32 bit iceweasel
[02:25] <soundray> ChickenTalons: it didn't. If you got it working in 64bit firefox, I'd be very curious as to how.
[02:25] <fibonaccixp\> but i need, for performance reason, the alt-f2 switch to work..is very very strange
[02:25] <barata> why do I keep on getting this:
[02:25] <barata>   mplayer: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable
[02:25] <barata>            Depends: libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0) but it is not going to be installed
[02:26] <ChickenTalons> soundray, im going to reboot into ubuntu and we're gong to see what's up. brb
[02:26] <soundray> fibonaccixp\: have you tried mapping it to another combination in Shortcuts?
[02:26] <Amaranth> sixseat: Not possible, it's only flash 7 :P
[02:26] <Amaranth> sixseat: and has been for years
[02:26] <jrib> barata: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[02:26] <fibonaccixp\> soundray, i'll try
[02:26] <Egyptooo> Hello all:)
[02:26] <talisein> Amaranth: flash 9 was just released.
[02:26] <strabes> wow is there a stable flash 9 for linux? I apparently havent been reading digg enough
[02:26] <barata> okey jrib
[02:26] <sixseat> well all i know is that it worked a few weeks ago, i let the updater update whatever, and now it doesnt work
[02:26] <talisein> flash 9 is beta.
[02:26] <strabes> WHAT??????
[02:26] <strabes> oh ok
[02:26] <Amaranth> talisein: A beta that doesn't work very well
[02:26] <talisein> yeah.
[02:26] <strabes> i'll stick with the current version
[02:26] <fowler> What probs?  Sound sync seems good
[02:26] <Amaranth> so far nothing interactive i've tried has worked
[02:26] <strabes> the one that automatix2 installs
[02:26] <LjL> A beta that we already know about. See the channel topic ;-)
[02:27] <Amaranth> automatix2 was updated to install it? it just came out
[02:27] <chuckyp> Madpilot, when did you find out it was released?
[02:27] <Amaranth> Less than 12 hours ago
[02:27] <fibonaccixp\> soundray, mapping to other key-combination does not work :(
[02:27] <strabes> wow i'm blind i didnt know that was out
[02:27] <barata> what do you wanna see jrib?
[02:27] <strabes> holy crap
[02:27] <Amaranth> strabes: It's been out less than a day
[02:27] <Madpilot> chuckyp, a while ago, someone came onto the channel and let everyone know
[02:27] <jrib> barata: the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <jrib> barata: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:28] <at0miku> Anybody know of a good guide on how to netinstall unbuntu using windows as the file server thing? I think I also need a guide on how to create a boot disk that starts the net install because my old computer doesnt support net install
[02:28] <strabes> amaranth: oh ok i feel better now then
[02:28] <barata> what do you mean jrib? to sync it with your link?
[02:28] <SB|nblracer> WOW, it takes along time to make a swap part. is that normal? much longer then a vfat or ext3
[02:28] <MikeyMike> does xubuntu have sshd ?
[02:28] <Amaranth> Madpilot: You cut the nvidia warning off
[02:28] <MikeyMike> how do i enable it
[02:28] <Egyptooo> I need to Make sure that at least the following options match the kernel i am running:SMP, MTRR, and MODVERSIONS. been adviced to run make menuconfig for that, but i dont know what menus shouls i check, anyone have the time to help?
[02:28] <soundray> fibonaccixp\: sorry, I'm out off suggestions now.
[02:28] <sixseat> ok, so um no one has any idea about my blank screen problem then?
[02:29] <Madpilot> Amaranth, drat - hit the /topic length limit
[02:29] <soundray> s/off/of/
[02:29] <Amaranth> sixseat: beryl and/or nvidia beta drivers?
[02:29] <fibonaccixp\> soundray, thanks for your suggestions
[02:29] <jrib> barata: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is a site where you can paste large amounts of text.  Go to the site, paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and then give us the url in this room
[02:29] <MikeyMike> if anyone has an answer please say my name
[02:29] <sixseat> amaranth, how would can i tell?
[02:29] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever installed ralink drivers in ubuntu?
[02:29] <barata> I C jrib
[02:29] <ChickenTalons> ok now
[02:29] <ChickenTalons> let me fire up my browser
[02:29] <Amaranth> sixseat: If you don't know what they are you don't have them.
[02:29] <soundray> MikeyMike: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[02:29] <ajmitch> Amaranth: just how breakable are those beta nvidia drivers?
[02:30] <jrib> does epiphany have a folder in the home directory that it checks plugins for?
[02:30] <ChickenTalons> says 1.5.0.7
[02:30] <MikeyMike> soundray,  thanks
[02:30] <Madpilot> Amaranth, fixed, at the cost of the tribute to lilo
[02:30] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Since I realized a bug in beryl was causing my lockups they've been rock solid.
[02:30] <AlienX> soundray, have you seen the error "synce-pstatus: Unable to initialize RAPI: An unspecified failure has occurred"?
[02:30] <barata> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27281/
[02:30] <Amaranth> ajmitch: I guess they either work or they don't
[02:30] <Syco54645> how can i shut off directory listing in apache2 on ubuntu server edition.  i have tried every method that i can think of and apache doesnt appear to be reading the .htaccess file
[02:31] <Amaranth> Madpilot: That's what I was going to do too but I didn't want to be the one that did it
[02:31] <soundray> AlienX: yes, many times, never satisfactorily explained.
[02:31] <Amaranth> Syco54645: NoIndexes
[02:31] <jrib> barata: get rid of this http://www.debian-multimedia.org
[02:31] <anon32> question: how can I have files inherit permissions from the parent directory like in Windows?
[02:31] <Madpilot> Amaranth, thanks for letting me be the heartless one ;)
[02:31] <sixseat> how can i go to an older version of flash if the updater only has the latest version listed?
[02:31] <jrib> barata: also, if you are running dapper, get rid of all the breezy stuff
[02:31] <barata> okey jrib
[02:31] <Amaranth> anon32: chmod +t /path/to/dir
[02:31] <ajmitch> Amaranth: I've seen a number of other bugreports on the nvidia forums at least
[02:31] <AlienX> soundray, hmm ok. So am I SOL then? I'm on the synce-pstatus step
[02:31] <Syco54645> Amaranth: where do i put that, in the apache2.conf file?  apache says that i am to use -Indexes
[02:31] <barata> what are those beezy stuff
[02:31] <ajmitch> Madpilot: we understand :)
[02:31] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Some stuttering in OpenGL games
[02:32] <anon32> Amaranth, what would that be in Nautilus?
[02:32] <joeCoT> how would i set the icon for iceweasel? the one that shows up in the status bar and in the window header
[02:32] <Amaranth> anon32: it wouldn't
[02:32] <jrib> barata: everything after line 36, you don't need.  You'll need to add multiverse too so let me know when you are ready
[02:32] <Amaranth> Syco54645: I don't know, I'm just guessing
[02:32] <sixseat> 7.0.63.3 is whats listed
[02:32] <Syco54645> Amaranth: ah ok.  well apache says to use -Indexes, but that does absolutely nothing every time i try it
[02:32] <barata> okey jrib, I check them
[02:32] <anon32> Amaranth, :-(
[02:32] <Amaranth> ajmitch: Disabling RenderAccel gets rid of the vulnerability in the 8774 drivers
[02:33] <Amaranth> Syco54645: Put NoIndexes in where it says to put that
[02:33] <strabes> joecot: is there an iceweasel directory in /usr/share? also check for icons in /usr/share/pixmaps and /usr/share/pixmaps/iceweasel
[02:33] <Syco54645> Amaranth: i did and still no luck
[02:33] <ajmitch> Amaranth: I know that :)
[02:33] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, in DOS there is the comman.. cd\ to go to root,, is there a commando like that in linux?
[02:33] <barata> I checked line 36 on .. what is the breezy stuff, jrib
[02:33] <soundray> AlienX: no, keep trying. You need to get things in in the right sequence as well. Also, make sure you run dccm as yourself and synce-serial-start with sudo.
[02:33] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, cd
[02:33] <Amaranth> anon32: nautilus hasn't crashed on me since warty :0
[02:33] <sheriff> how can i add new themes to gnome? i downloaded some gdm themes and tried to install them by theme manager of gnome but it gives an error?
[02:33] <Amaranth> Mad3Max3: cd /
[02:33] <strabes> sheriff: gdm themes are login themes
[02:33] <anon32> Amaranth, I always get "Nautilus has unexpectedly crashed"
[02:34] <anon32> usually when trying to open folders
[02:34] <strabes> sheriff: go to gnome-look.org and go to metacity themes
[02:34] <Amaranth> sheriff: You install those with System->Administration->Login Screen Setup
[02:34] <barata> jrib, now if I apt-get mplayer it says the app is missing
[02:34] <Amaranth> err, login window
[02:34] <sheriff> Amaranth : ok thats what i thought :)
[02:34] <strabes> joecot: those seem to be the most common directories for applications icons
[02:34] <jrib> barata: that's it: lines 36-47 were old breezy stuff.  And line 49 is debian stuff that you don't want.  Now you need to add multiverse.  To do so, add the word " multiverse" to the end of lines 18,19,33,34
[02:34] <strabes> sheriff: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org have great metacity themes
[02:34] <AlienX> soundray, hmm, that's what I've done. Hooray for unintitive stuff ;)
[02:34] <Syco54645> Amaranth: it says illegal option NoIndexes
[02:34] <barata> okey jrib
[02:34] <Mad3Max3> Amaranth, CD / worked.. thanks
[02:34] <sheriff> Amaranth : gtk 2.x 's r themes right?
[02:35] <gh0st> how can o disable automatic rhythmbox launching when iPod is plugged in?
[02:35] <strabes> gh0st: do you use rhythmbox?
[02:35] <sheriff> Also can i find deb files for mplayer?
[02:35] <gh0st> dtrabes:no
[02:35] <dxdemetriou> When I use spatial nautilus, can I define myself the size of each new folder created?
[02:35] <soundray> AlienX: it may be worth going through the rest of the forum pages (14 of them now! Unbelievenable!)
[02:35] <gh0st> strabes:no
[02:35] <LjL> !mplayer > sheriff
[02:35] <anon32> gh0st, system -> administration -> removable media
[02:35] <strabes> gh0st: if not then just do sudo apt-get remove rhythmbox
[02:35] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever installed ralink drivers in ubuntu?
[02:36] <Mad3Max3> MadPilot, Im trying to install Imon drivers.. and following the install procedure they have written down doesn't work.
[02:36] <soundray> SpudDogg: yes
[02:36] <anon32> strabes, that breaks the dist-upgrade command though
[02:36] <barata> I did it jrib
[02:36] <AlienX> soundray, alright, I'll do that. Thanks again
[02:36] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, what's an imon driver?
[02:36] <Zer0Ry0k0> how do I find out which kernel I have running?
[02:36] <strabes> anon32: why cuz it removes ubuntu-desktop?
[02:36] <soundray> Zer0Ry0k0: uname -a
[02:36] <sheriff> LjL : can i download it by using apt-get ?
[02:36] <barata> jrib, still the same
[02:36] <barata> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[02:36] <ChickenTalons> soundray, it appears I was mistaken - I guess I just assumed it because mplayer-plugin worked
[02:36] <SpudDogg> soundray, did you have to make a symlink to get the install working?
[02:36] <rabautz> Zer0Ry0k0: uname -r
[02:36] <anon32> strabes, yea
[02:36] <strabes> then just install ubuntu-desktop when you want to do that
[02:36] <ChickenTalons> soundray, how do I install the 32 bit firefox?
[02:36] <jrib> barata: sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, it's for a VFD display.. this computer is a HTPC.. http://venky.ws/projects/imon/
[02:36] <anon32> strabes, and download rhytmbox again?
[02:37] <anon32> ChickenTalons, by downloading it?
[02:37] <barata> ok jrib
[02:37] <soundray> SpudDogg: yes, 'build' in the modules dir to the headers dir
[02:37] <ChickenTalons> anon32, you're a funny guy
[02:37] <sixseat> ok lost again
[02:37] <anon32> ChickenTalons, seriously
[02:37] <sixseat> is there an officla support channel or is this it?
[02:37] <Luakagon> I broke my packages.  Can someone help me?
[02:37] <barata> thanks jrib ... it is now installing
[02:37] <anon32> http://mozilla.org
[02:37] <barata> :)
[02:37] <ChickenTalons> is there a way to properly install the 32 bit firefox via apt-get?
[02:37] <barata> :)
[02:37] <strabes> anon32: i dunno lol that was my solution; rhythmbox sux. i dont use dist-upgrade anyway. what did you do to stop rhythmbox from opening with an ipod?
[02:37] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, ah. No idea
[02:37] <anon32> Luakagon, define broke
[02:37] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, fails on this. Compile the module (make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=$PWD modules)
[02:37] <anon32> strabes, don't have an ipod
[02:37] <SpudDogg> soundray, what is the header dir?
[02:37] <barata> I can never get it without your help, jrib :)
[02:37] <soundray> ChickenTalons: I don't know, I haven't tried, but Kilz has instructions on help.ubuntu.com I think
[02:37] <strabes> oh
[02:38] <ChickenTalons> soundray, right on, thx
[02:38] <barata> jrib .... do you also use dvd2avi?
[02:38] <anon32> strabes, but the setting is it system -> administration -> removable moedia
[02:38] <strabes> anon32, oh thanks for the tip
[02:38] <barata> it's actually just a perl script
[02:38] <Zer0Ry0k0> Linux x64 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:38] <Zer0Ry0k0> the x64 is my computer name, right?   so 2.6.15-27-386 or i686 is what I'm using?
[02:38] <Luakagon> anon32, Synaptic told me to fix my broken packages.
[02:38] <bimberi> sheriff: you can install mplayer via Applications -> Add/Remove...
[02:38] <anon32> Luakagon, apt-get -f install
[02:38] <gh0st> strabes: then ubuntu desktop is removed
[02:38] <sheriff> bimberi : ok i found it thnks
[02:39] <strabes> gh0st: i know - it only affects the dist-upgrade command
[02:39] <ChickenTalons> soundray, theres no kinda search function there :(
[02:39] <soundray> SpudDogg: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27/ (after you installed the linux-headers-$(uname -a) package
[02:39] <talisein> anon32: System -> Prefrences -> Removable Drives and Media Preferences -> Multimedia -> Play msuic files when connected fro Portable muysic players, uncheck.
[02:39] <strabes> gh0st- i'm looking for another solution right now hold on
[02:39] <Noob1> ok i reinstaled becuse what i was asked to do last time killed my computor so my question is now how do i install java i have tryed your guide but i keep getting an error can some one tell me what to type to get the firefox plug in i am running Ubuntu 5.10, Breezy Badger
[02:39] <anon32> talisein, that's what I said
[02:39] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, I never compile stuff, so I'm the wrong person to ask about compiling errors...
[02:39] <Egyptooo> I need to Make sure that at least the following options match the kernel i am running:SMP, MTRR, and MODVERSIONS. been adviced to run make menuconfig for that, but i dont know what menus shouls i check, anyone have the time to help?
[02:39] <soundray> SpudDogg: s/uname -a/uname -r/
[02:39] <gh0st> strabes: i found another solution like anon32 said (thanks)
[02:39] <strabes> gh0st: what version of ubuntu are you using
[02:39] <talisein> anon32: oic. Who needs help then? ;)
[02:39] <strabes> gh0st: ok good
[02:39] <Zer0Ry0k0> the x64 is my computer name, right?   so 2.6.15-27-386 or i686 is what I'm using?
[02:39] <strabes> gh0st: i guess i learned something new from that anyway
[02:39] <anon32> talisein, it was gh0st
[02:39] <jrib> barata: I don't know about dvd2avi
[02:40] <anon32> Zer0Ry0k0, no.. you have a kernel with amd in its name if you have a 64-bit system
[02:40] <soundray> Zer0Ry0k0: don't repeat, rephrase.
[02:40] <snook353> i don't have any "source" repositories.  how do i get them?
[02:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay, cool
[02:40] <Noob1> some one what to help me?
[02:40] <joeCoT> strabes: thanks. It was iceweasel's chrome/icons/default directory it needed to be in. luckily gimp exports to .xpm
[02:40] <talisein> !help
[02:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:40] <Zer0Ry0k0> soundray, a page of text went by with lots of talking, I'm pretty sure noone read it
[02:40] <bruenig> Noob1, what is your question
[02:41] <digit-> hey guys
[02:41] <Noob1> ok i reinstaled becuse what i was asked to do last time killed my computor so my question is now how do i install java i have tryed your guide but i keep getting an error can some one tell me what to type to get the firefox plug in i am running Ubuntu 5.10, Breezy Badger
[02:41] <rabautz> snook353: uncomment those deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:41] <gh0st> but i have another specific question: how can i define my multimedia keys to open amarok instead of rhythmbox?
[02:41] <gh0st> and control amarok too
[02:41] <snook353> ok, thanks rabautz
[02:41] <bruenig> gh0st, are you every going to use rhythmbox?
[02:41] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, ok. thanks anyway.. U have helped me alot today.. many thanks
[02:41] <gh0st> bruenig: never i think
[02:41] <Madpilot> Mad3Max3, no problem. good luck
[02:41] <strabes> joecot: sweet i'm glad that you found it. i didnt know gimp exports to xpm wow i will have to investigate that. the menu image on most programs are .xpm's. I was using ooffice draw to make them lol. What is iceweasel btw?
[02:42] <Mad3Max3> Anyone that knows how to install the imon drivers for a VFD display .. ?
[02:42] <digit-> i just switched to pekwm, and now my buttons/scrollbars/menus/etc look like shit....any suggestions?
[02:42] <gh0st> how can i define my multimedia keys to open amarok instead of rhythmbox?
[02:42] <soundray> Zer0Ry0k0: I did, and I had a hard time decoding your question. So I ignored it. That's why I suggested to rephrase.
[02:42] <bruenig> gh0st, for launching rhythmbox with the same keys, this command should allow you to do that. It won't however allow the control keys to work. "sudo mv /usr/bin/rhythmbox /usr/bin/rhythmbox.old && sudo ln -s /usr/bin/amarok /usr/bin/rhythmbox"
[02:42] <joeCoT> strabes: gnu firefox. after the fallout between debian and firefox, debian's going to be using it next release
[02:43] <barata> ok jrib
[02:43] <strabes> wow that's awesome
[02:43] <strabes> gh0st: keytouch.sf.net
[02:43] <bruenig> !attitude
[02:43] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:43] <anon32> bruenig, don't symbolic links have to be restored with each logon?
[02:43] <SpudDogg> soundray, do you know what the exact command should be to set up the symlink?  the header dir is linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[02:43] <bruenig> anon32, no
[02:43] <strabes> gh0st: use that for your multimedia keys. it's pretty effective that's what i use
[02:43] <anon32> Noob1, wha?
[02:43] <gh0st> bruenig: isn't there a cleaner solution?
[02:44] <joeCoT> strabes: since i need 32 bit firefox for flash anyway, figured i should install iceweasel 32. I've been trying to build 64 for days
[02:44] <gh0st> strabes, is that an app?
[02:44] <Mad3Max3> Or anyone that can help me understand how to install those drivers.. I have to compile them.. and stuff. I would be very grateful for expertice help for this
[02:44] <digit-> i guess i should ask, what draws the buttons and scrollbars for apps in linux?
[02:44] <anon32> bruenig, funny... mine wiped after a restart..
[02:44] <digit-> is it gtk?
[02:44] <bruenig> gh0st, perhaps
[02:44] <Noob1> ok i reinstaled becuse what i was asked to do last time killed my computor so my question is now how do i install java i have tryed your guide but i keep getting an error can some one tell me what to type to get the firefox plug in i am running Ubuntu 5.10, Breezy Badger
[02:44] <anon32> joeCoT, iceweasel? as in firefox without the firefox symbols as in not really firefox?
[02:44] <strabes> gh0st: yes keytouch is an application that you can use to define the multimedia keys on your keyboard
[02:45] <strabes> wow i just got the correlation between ice and fire and weasel and firefox wow i'm an idiot
[02:45] <anon32> Noob1, how about apt-get dist-upgrade?!
[02:45] <bruenig> anon32, there are a ton of symlinks. For instance /usr/bin/firefox is a symbolic link, I doubt you have to redo that everytime you restart.
[02:45] <soundray> SpudDogg: 'sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386 /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build' (not tested - please check for plausibility)
[02:45] <gh0st> istrabes: the prog isn't in the repos
[02:45] <anon32> strabes, meh... stuff like iceweasel just causes fragmentation in the OSS community
[02:45] <Noob1> anon32, im new to this whats that
[02:45] <gh0st> strabes: only keytouch-editor
[02:45] <strabes> anon32: indeed it does; it's just funny
[02:46] <bruenig> strabes, lol, yeah opposite, clever
[02:46] <gh0st> strabes: i found the ubuntu package thanks, will try it now
[02:46] <strabes> bruenig: yeah i'm a genius i guess lol
[02:46] <strabes> gh0st: download the .deb from the website
[02:46] <anon32> Noob1, upgrade to the recent Ubuntu version?
[02:46] <SpudDogg> soundray, that did it.  thanks!!!!
[02:46] <soundray> anon32: no, stuff like the Mozilla Foundation causes that fragmentation.
[02:46] <strabes> gh0st: ok cool have fun with it it's a pretty useful program
[02:46] <Noob1> ohh ok
[02:46] <anon32> soundray, ...
[02:46] <Noob1> duh
[02:46] <bruenig> although, water<animal> would make sense also
[02:46] <strabes> gh0st: you should also try out quodlibet for a music player instead of amarok. It's really lightweight and fast. It's my fav music player now
[02:46] <talisein> seriously, there would be no iceweasel if mozilla didn't demand it.
[02:47] <gh0st> strabes: i already did, but the devs are really not nice
[02:47] <anon32> talisein, and why's that?
[02:47] <gh0st> strabes: otherwise i like it too, yes
[02:47] <LjL> anon32: ask again in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:47] <strabes> gh0st: so that's why you don't use it? lol you should talk to the gaim devs they're total jerks
[02:47] <anon32> LjL, ..
[02:48] <wastrel> ubunto
[02:48] <strabes> if you can even call them devs....they never release anything
[02:48] <snook353> rabautz, some lines that i uncomment don't have any repositories listed below them
[02:48] <SpudDogg> soundray, when i try to 'modprobe rt2500usb' i get this error "WARNING: Error inserting rt2x00core (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/rt2x00/rt2x00core.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter"  Any idea?
[02:48] <gh0st> strabes: well it's not because of that, however, it has some annoyances
[02:48] <Egyptooo> guys how to check if my kernel support the modversions, smp and mtrr options???
[02:48] <LjL> strabes, this is not the place to insult OSS developers. please.
[02:49] <digit-> anyone use fluxbox/pekwm/etc?
[02:49] <talisein> Egyptooo: give them to the kernel and read dmesg
[02:49] <strabes> ljl: sorry it was in the context sorta
[02:49] <Egyptooo> talisein how?
[02:49] <Egyptooo> talisein am complety new to linux
[02:49] <soundray> SpudDogg: not sure -- is this a very recent driver source?
[02:49] <strabes> gh0st: oh ok...have you figured out keytouch yet
[02:49] <anon32> what's the difference between linux-kernel-686 and linux-kernel-686smp? they both seem to install the same packages
[02:49] <SpudDogg> soundray, i dont think so...May 06
[02:49] <rabautz> snook353: sry, don't know what you mean ..
[02:50] <talisein> Egyptooo: then why are you worried about that stuff? ;)
[02:50] <snook353> there are no addresses below the comments, rabautz
[02:50] <rabautz> snook353: deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted     - an example-line from my sources.list ..
[02:50] <zOrK> simple question, can I open linux's files in windows
[02:50] <SB|nblracer> i get an error when i try to make a swap. "mkswap: too many bad page"
[02:51] <Egyptooo> talisein am trying to install the AcceleratedX drivers and its their request
[02:51] <zOrK> and if so, what is  the software's name?
[02:51] <LjL> zOrK, google for "ext2 windows", should find a couple of options
[02:51] <digit-> what kind of files z0rk?
[02:51] <zOrK> LjL  thanks.
[02:51] <anon32> LjL, don't you mean ext3?
[02:51] <soundray> SpudDogg: is 2.6.15-27-386 your current uname -r output?
[02:51] <Egyptooo> talisein they say Make sure that at least the following options match the kernel you
[02:51] <Egyptooo>   are running: SMP, MTRR, and MODVERSIONS.
[02:51] <zOrK> My partition is ext3, can I still open the files?
[02:51] <rabautz> snook353: lines like that have to be uncommented .. or at least those of the repositories the source-package you search for is in ..
[02:51] <SpudDogg> soundray, yes
[02:51] <anon32> anyway, is there a way to get XFS support on Windows (yea, should go to ##windows)?
[02:51] <strabes> is it possible to install your windows on fat32? that's what i would do
[02:52] <anon32> strabes, it is possible, but that completely ruins file permissions
[02:52] <snook353> ok, thanks rabautz
[02:52] <talisein> Egyptooo: well, I know that the kernel supports SMP and MTRR in dapper. I would just install it and see if it works, it probably will.
[02:52] <anon32> and leaves your system totally open to attack
[02:52] <LjL> anon32: no, i don't, because i actually know that "ext2 windows" gives a few interesting results, while i haven't tried with ext3... at any rate, you can always *read* an ext3 partition like it were an ext2 partition. writing is another story, though
[02:52] <SB|nblracer> yes windows can go on fat32
[02:52] <Egyptooo> and that is by runing make menuconfig as they said, however am completly lost in those menuconfig menus
[02:52] <SB|nblracer> XP dose nose not like it
[02:52] <anon32> anyway, is there a way to get XFS support on Windows (yea, should go to ##windows)?
[02:52] <LjL> zOrK: yes, just avoid writing to them. or find a software that specifically supports ext3 and not just ext2
[02:52] <strabes> anon32: oh ok. my windows is on ntfs but i have a fat32 partition for linux/windows file sharing
[02:53] <Egyptooo> talisein i could find mtrr checked yes, but couldnt find modversions and smp
[02:53] <soundray> SpudDogg: sorry, I can't be of any help, then. Maybe ask on the mailing list?
[02:53] <talisein> Egyptooo: Skip the part about recompiling the kernel.
[02:53] <Egyptooo> talisein the problem is that i dont even know what do they stand for:)
[02:53] <SB|nblracer> i get an error when i try to make a swap. "mkswap: too many bad page"
[02:54] <talisein> !smp >talisein
[02:54] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, thanks for the help so far!
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <anon32> what's the difference between linux-kernel-686 and linux-kernel-686smp? they both seem to install the same packages
[02:54] <Rockj> http://pastebin.ca/209116 , anyone can explain me why locale gives alot of errors and why locale -a doesn't show the en_US.ISO-8859-1 locale , but when you type dpkg-reconfigure locales it is installed :S
[02:54] <Egyptooo> talisein as they say its not recompiling , (You *do not* need to compile or install the kernel.), this is what i they said in the text file
[02:54] <talisein> anon32: if you have a multi-core processor or hyperthreading, you want smp. that's the only difference
[02:55] <soundray> SpudDogg: I actually managed to compile the sources from Ralink themselves today, so that's another approach you could try.
[02:55] <gh0st> strabes: keytouch does not have my keybpard
[02:55] <Mad3Max3> how do I do this "You must have the kernel source or headers in /usr/src/linux that exactly match your running kernel."?
[02:55] <anon32> talisein, but when I looked at both, they both were dummies that installed linux-kernel-2.6.15.27-686
[02:55] <SpudDogg> soundray, lol.  i get another error when i try that...do you think you can help me out with it?
[02:55] <talisein> Egyptooo: so the menuconfig is part of compiling the accelerated x driver? Realy, if you paid for this thing then you should bug them.
[02:55] <strabes> gh0st: do they have it on the website? they have more for download there
[02:55] <soundray> SpudDogg: try me
[02:56] <SpudDogg> soundray, well, i believe the command for that is 'sudo cp Makefile.6  ./Makefile'
[02:56] <SpudDogg> soundray, does that look familiar to you?
[02:56] <Egyptooo> talisein am just trying the demo now, its the only hope left to make my radeon 9200 work with 3d and open gl
[02:56] <talisein> anon32: recent kernel developments let the kernel automatically adapt itself to the right configuration. So while we used to need a smp package, now we just keep it around as a dummy
[02:56] <bimberi> anon32: I think it's a backwards compatibility thing.  Previous Ubuntu releases had separate 686 and 686-smp kernels.  Dapper doesn't
[02:56] <soundray> SpudDogg: yes
[02:57] <gh0st> strabes: unfortunately not
[02:57] <Mad3Max3> I have to put something in the linux dir there.. is it a header file it want .. and if so.. where is it?
[02:57] <talisein> Egyptooo: My 9600 works fine with free drivers... in Edgy. Just wait a couple weeks. ;)
[02:57] <anon32> oh
[02:57] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to save all of my (current) settings so I can roll back to my system's current configuration if something gets messed up?
[02:57] <Mad3Max3> Madpilot, do u have any idea?
[02:58] <anon32> Megaqwerty, copy everything in /etc and /home ?
[02:58] <Egyptooo> talisein ok what do you thing about acceleratedX in general?
[02:58] <soundray> SpudDogg: why are you sudo'ing that one?
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks anon32
[02:58] <anon32> Megaqwerty, um... be careful when you overwrite your new files with those
[02:58] <strabes> gh0st: hmm you could try another keyboard by the same manufacturer. also, you can bind commands to keys using gconf-editor, apps, metacity, global_keybindings. you just have to find the names of your multimedia keys.
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> right, I know
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[02:58] <talisein> Egyptooo: never tried it, don't think I will. I'm not sure how they are better than the ATI-provided flgrx driver.
[02:59] <SB|nblracer> Any one have a clue why i get the rror Too many Bad Pagges when trying to make a SWAP
[02:59] <Mad3Max3> Anyone that can help?
[02:59] <gh0st> how to do it in gconf/metacity?
[02:59] <talisein> Egyptooo: i don't really think its aimed at helping end-users. ;)
[02:59] <barktpolar> When is Edgy Eft coming out in Shipit\
[03:00] <ks1> barktpolar: its not
[03:00] <talisein> barktpolar: I heard that Dapper would continue to be the shipit'd distro
[03:00] <snook353> rabautz, there are no src deb lines on teh etc/apt/sources.list
[03:00] <snook353> this is what it look like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27284/
[03:00] <SpudDogg> soundray, i needed the sudo, but there had to be 2 spaces in the command
[03:00] <soundray> Mad3Max3: install the linux-headers package that fits your current kernel. Then create a link 'ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) /usr/src/linux'
[03:00] <MenZa> !names
[03:00] <Egyptooo> talisein i tried the ati provided fglrx drivers and they give me direct render and open gl yes, but almost every application gives me floating exception point error when starting
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about names - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> what is the bash command to sudo copy?
[03:00] <Egyptooo> so its useless
[03:00] <varsendaggr> hey are there any DTP programs that let you link to files and as you change one file the other parts change in the other document?
[03:00] <anon32> soundray, ah yes... the kernel headers (eww)
[03:01] <anon32> Megaqwerty, try "sudo copy" ?
[03:01] <LjL> !cli > Megaqwerty
[03:01] <Egyptooo> talisein even maya gives me signal 11 error and closes
[03:01] <Megaqwerty> lol, thanks
[03:01] <talisein> Egyptooo: ?? Did you install flgrx from apt-get or synaptic? Lots of people use Dapper and flgrx
[03:01] <strabes> gh0st i'm not sure how to find the names of your multimedia keys. I know there's a command that allows you to hit buttons and it will show you them. just look on ubuntu forums
[03:01] <gh0st> strabes: i know their names
[03:02] <Mad3Max3> soundray, how do I find the headers for my kernel,, how do I see if it match. im new to linux so..im kinda lost
[03:02] <SpudDogg> soundray, the command the readme is telling me to type is 'dos2unix rt73sta.dat' but i get the error "bash: dos2unix: command not found"
[03:02] <strabes> gh0st , not like play, pause, stop, etc.
[03:02] <dabaR> SpudDogg: install it
[03:02] <corhere> i tried to install flash player 9 by placing the .so into ~/.mozilla/plugins but I still get the old version (flashplayer-nonfree). I did close firefox before copying the .so. What have I done wrong?
[03:02] <soundray> SpudDogg: 'sudo apt-get install sysutils' then try again
[03:02] <Egyptooo> talisein i tried every single soloutin, the synaptic the ati and converted to deb the ati directly from the run, nothing works
[03:02] <rabautz> snook353: Just copy those lines and make deb-src of the beginning of those copied lines, think that should work..
[03:03] <soundray> Mad3Max3: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[03:03] <snook353> ok, rabautz
[03:03] <julian> any suggestions on a good wep breaker
[03:03] <talisein> corhere: you need to place it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.. or something like that. Check the readme.
[03:03] <digit-> bah, this is ruining my whole desktop
[03:03] <ArrenLex> corhere: apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[03:03] <digit-> not really, but in my mind it is
[03:03] <gh0st> no i know them:like 0xed 0xea etc...
[03:03] <anon32> what would happen if I tried to do "wine taskmgr.exe" /
[03:03] <corhere> ArrenLex, i want to avoid doing that
[03:03] <anon32> ArrenLex, that doesn't actually remove the plugin
[03:03] <gh0st> strabes : no i know them:like 0xed 0xea etc...
[03:03] <SpudDogg> soundray, i get "dos2unix: No write permission for rt73sta.dat. Use -f to force conversion" should i add the -f?
[03:03] <strabes> gh0st: oh ok then go to gconf-editor, apps, metacity, keybinding_commands
[03:03] <ArrenLex> That's stupid. Then remove it from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
[03:03] <soundray> Mad3Max3: try uname -r on its own. It shows your current kernel version. $(uname -r) fills it in somewhere else.
[03:03] <ArrenLex> flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so -- remove them
[03:04] <Egyptooo> talisein i have messed up the system from those tries am sure, but i am in a situation now that i went back to the default ubuntu ati driver , the direct render is off
[03:04] <strabes> and type in the commands in there for command 1 etc
[03:04] <strabes> gh0st: like amarok --play-pause i tihnk is one
[03:04] <julian> need ati driver for x1400
[03:04] <soundray> SpudDogg: it would really be best if you started over by unpacking the driver source in your home dir. Then you can follow the instructions to the letter and they will work.
[03:04] <strabes> gh0st: in terminal type amarox --help
[03:04] <strabes> gh0st: that will tell you all the commands
[03:04] <ArrenLex> gh0st: are you trying to control amarok? Use dcop.
[03:05] <Egyptooo> talisein what is MODVERSIONS anyway?
[03:05] <gh0st> strabes: what do you mean go to metacity, where? and i tried keytouch, but i can't apply anything, it just starts rhythmbox, however i said amarok in keytouch, altough it's not exactly the same keyboard model...
[03:05] <strabes> julian: follow the 1st method in thisguide - i have the same card as you: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[03:05] <julian> sweet thnx
[03:05] <strabes> gh0st: close keytouch - that's useless for you now
[03:05] <strabes> julian: np
[03:05] <SpudDogg> soundray, so the fact that the folder is at '/home/spuddogg/Desktop/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module' makes a difference?
[03:05] <strabes> gh0st: in a terminal, type gconf-editor
[03:06] <gh0st> strabes: is it only useful if it's the EXACT keyboard?
[03:06] <soundray> SpudDogg: oh, is that where it is? That's fine, unless you've unpacked it with sudo.
[03:06] <talisein> Egyptooo: yeah, the direct render in the free (default) driver isn't available in dapper. If you really need direct render, try to "aptitude install xserver-xorg-driver-ati" and then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:07] <Rockj> anyone can help me with locale-troubles?
[03:07] <talisein> Egyptooo: MODVERSIONS is just a kernel option where it keeps track of what version of modules are installed
[03:07] <strabes> gh0st: i dunno i've never had to use it with a different keyboard. you have to set the keys like play etc to the amarok commands like "amarok --play-pause" i think is one
[03:07] <soundray> !helpme
[03:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <Luakagon> huh?
[03:07] <Rockj> http://pastebin.ca/209116 , anyone can explain me why locale gives alot of errors and why locale -a doesn't show the en_US.ISO-8859-1 locale , but when you type dpkg-reconfigure locales it is installed :S
[03:07] <Luakagon> :P
[03:07] <Xenguy> Gnu's Not Unix, er
[03:08] <marc_> .me needs help with "Evolution", I seem to recieve e-mail's but I can't send
[03:08] <gh0st> in which field? default setting or program etc?
[03:08] <anon32> marc_, Evolution... lol
[03:08] <Rockj> I'am trying to use iso-8859-1 as standard because of our special norwegian letters.
[03:08] <strabes> gh0st: in the program box
[03:08] <anon32> question: why is the default mail app not thunderbird?
[03:08] <marc_> I can't seem to find where to change the port setting for my SMTP...
[03:08] <Egyptooo> talisein ok will try that, thanx:)
[03:08] <talisein> Egyptooo: good luck
[03:09] <strabes> anon32: why do people even use mail apps when there is gmail?
[03:09] <rbil> question: why is the sky blue?
[03:09] <marc_> strabeb....business...maybe
[03:09] <talisein> strabes: because we don't want Google reading our email?
[03:09] <LjL> rbil: question: why is this channel called an "Ubuntu support channel"?
[03:09] <Megaqwerty> how do I make nautilus copy locked files? Is there a way to open it with super user privileges?
[03:09] <ks1> anon32: because evolution is part of the gnome desktop.
[03:09] <hobbesmaster> Megaqerty: from the console  sudo nautilus
[03:09] <anon32> strabes, because when you go to gmail there's the loading and also the ads
[03:10] <marc_> So..I am hearing that maybe I shouldn't use Evolution...
[03:10] <anon32> ks1, huh
[03:10] <hutchGuy> maybe port 80 is blocked ?
[03:10] <rabautz> marc_: Just write your smtp-server in the form: smtp-server:Port eg mx.provider.com:25
[03:10] <hutchGuy> :)
[03:10] <strabes> anon32 - good reason
[03:10] <anon32> marc_, no... just that a lot of us haven't used it
[03:10] <hutchGuy> port 445 as well ?
[03:10] <strabes> anon32: i don't mind however
[03:10] <ks1> anon32: that was answering your question "why is the default mail app not thunderbird?"
[03:10] <gh0st> strabes: well, it doesn't work.... how can i do it with gconf-editor
[03:10] <talisein> the only MUA you need is mutt.  ^^
[03:10] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:10] <anon32> ks1, thanks
[03:10] <strabes> gh0st: what command are you using in keytouch?
[03:10] <strabes> or commansd
[03:11] <corhere> woot! I installed flashplayer 9 by mv-ing the old /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt to *.bak and copying the new libflashplayer.so there and chmoding it +x
[03:11] <ArrenLex> corhere: don't need +x
[03:11] <gh0st> strabes: what you said, but it's not my keyboard, just 3 keys are matching
[03:11] <SpaceFrog> For those of you who haven't seen the good news: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[03:11] <Megaqwerty> dang, I still can't do it, I'm trying to copy /etc/ to another partion, can someone help please?
[03:12] <pantaloon> can someone help me delete a duplicate program icon from the main menu?
[03:12] <soundray> talisein: mutt does it all for me. I keep it open for months in a screen session.
[03:12] <anon32> SpaceFrog, but it's a long time till it'll get anywhere... if it does
[03:12] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: what part are you having problems with?
[03:12] <strabes> gh0st: ok then. open up gconf-editor, then go to apps, metacity, keybinding commands.
[03:12] <anon32> pantaloon, run alacarte
[03:12] <talisein> soundray: ditto
[03:12] <soundray> SpudDogg: do you need further help?
[03:12] <Megaqwerty> it says "Error Operation not permitted"
[03:12] <hype> hi
[03:12] <ArrenLex> Mega: what does
[03:12] <SB|nblracer> Any one have a clue why i get the rror Too many Bad Pagges when trying to make a SWAP
[03:12] <ArrenLex> ?
[03:13] <SpudDogg> soundray, well in the instructions it tells me to do 'load'
[03:13] <SpaceFrog> anon32: It's running pretty decently for me, and that's all that matters at this point in time.. THe sound+video are in sync
[03:13] <strabes> gh0st: and type in the commands you want to use in command_1, etc
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> when I try to copy /etc/ using nautilus
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> there is an error message
[03:13] <anon32> SpaceFrog, wait... there's a public release?
[03:13] <soundray> SpudDogg: load what?
[03:13] <SpudDogg> soundray, and that just says command not found
[03:13] <slavik> hey all ...
[03:13] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: do you have write permissions to wherever you want to copy it?
[03:13] <strabes> gh0st: then go to global_keybindings, and type in the corresponding names of the buttons
[03:13] <pantaloon> anon32, thanks!
[03:13] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, did you launch it with gksudo nautilus?
[03:13] <SpaceFrog> anon32: yes
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> Yeah, I think
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> no
[03:13] <hype> any one can help me set up my refresh rate? i've just installed Nvidia Beta and now i'm stuck at 50hz. Here is my xorg http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/o5DQGe76.html
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> sudo
[03:13] <slavik> I need to get a dump of my system's BIOS, how do I do it?
[03:13] <gh0st> strabes: how does this work? run_command_1? what should i type?
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> what is the difference?
[03:14] <SpaceFrog> anon32: It's in beta. It went live today
[03:14] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, still should work I think
[03:14] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: there shouldn't be one
[03:14] <anon32> SpaceFrog, any glaring stability issues?
[03:14] <strabes> gh0st: that is the button that you press to activate command_1
[03:14] <ArrenLex> (a difference)
[03:14] <SpudDogg> soundray, in the readme, instruction 7 says to type 'load'
[03:14] <rabautz> marc_: Your provider will have general information how to connect to his smtp-server, read and adept to your evolution-config ...
[03:14] <slavik> anon32: grats ... now go write the broadcom wifi drivers ...
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/etc/X11/a...creenSaver".
[03:14] <gh0st> yes but WHAT's command_1?
[03:14] <soundray> SpudDogg: 1 min
[03:14] <anon32> slavik, sure...
[03:14] <gh0st> strabes: yes but WHAT's command_1?
[03:14] <anon32> slavik, I don't do wireless anyway, wired is so much better
[03:14] <strabes> gh0st: you need to define it in keybinding_commands
[03:15] <SpaceFrog> anon32: I played with it on Youtube, and at one stage it paused and wouldn't resume. I haven't encountered it again, though. Definitely check it out, anything's better than Flash 7
[03:15] <strabes> gh0st: like amarok --play-pause or something
[03:15] <anon32> SpaceFrog, yay?
[03:15] <digit-> how do i change gtk themes without gnome?
[03:15] <slavik> anon32: what about when you don't have _real_ access to wired?
[03:15] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, what does the error read, also you can do it via command line with "sudo cp -r /etc newdestination"
[03:15] <gh0st> strabes: in global-keybindings?
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:15] <strabes> gh0st: i dont know if that's the command for amarok btw...you need to look it up by typing in a terminal amarok --help
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> that should work
[03:15] <anon32> slavik, then go somewhere you do... wireless sucks ass
[03:15] <Megaqwerty> I Love bash
[03:16] <strabes> gh0st: global_keybindings is the list of the names of the buttons that you press to activate the commansd that you can type into keybinding_commands
[03:16] <biglurch> holy hell it works
[03:16] <anon32> SpaceFrog, is it a real beta... or is it an MS beta (alpha)?
[03:16] <slavik> anon32: tell that to my college's IT department (they suck)
[03:16] <soundray> SpudDogg: which driver is it exactly on http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm ?
[03:16] <anon32> slavik, :-P
[03:16] <gh0st> strabes: in global_keybindings "amarok" (for ex.) and in keybind_command the key, is that right?
[03:16] <yarddog> !language
[03:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:16] <slavik> Megaqwerty: Perl > * :P
[03:16] <biglurch> ok sorry
[03:16] <strabes> gh0st: no the opposite of those
[03:16] <Megaqwerty> ok....
[03:16] <SpudDogg> soundray, RT2571W/RT2671
[03:16] <biglurch> thanks man i owe ya
[03:16] <Megaqwerty> anyway, what does the -r do?
[03:16] <slavik> SpudDogg: you lucky ...
[03:17] <rabautz> digit-: gnome-theme-manager
[03:17] <SpaceFrog> anon32: It's a real beta, as far as the site says. Took me 2 minutes to set up (just overwrite the old .so file) and restart Firefox
[03:17] <slavik> Megaqwerty: recursive probably
[03:17] <anon32> SpaceFrog, yay?
[03:17] <slavik> wait, flash 9 beta is out?
[03:17] <SpudDogg> slavik, ?
[03:17] <SpaceFrog> anon32: yes, yay
[03:17] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: what does it do? specifically? (-r)
[03:17] <SpaceFrog> slavik: Yes.
[03:17] <slavik> Megaqwerty: what command you running (try to man the command)
[03:18] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, that flag means recursive so that it copies all of the subdirectories and files within the /etc directory, if you just did cp /etc, it would refuse to do it
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> sudo cp -r /etc new destination
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> oh
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:18] <strabes> gh0st: have you typed "amarok --help" into a terminal to find the commands yet?
[03:18] <Megaqwerty> that must be my problem
[03:18] <slavik> cp doesn't copy symlinks (need tar for that) ...
[03:19] <_greg> hi. Anyone having trouble entering a gateway in network-admin (edgy)?
[03:19] <soundray> SpudDogg: I see. Although it looks like it, you're not meant to type 'load'. Instead, follow the 6th line down (insmod).
[03:19] <slavik> tar cpf - -C /etc . | tar xpf - -C /destination/directory
[03:19] <slavik> :)
[03:19] <anon32> SpaceFrog, should I get the standalone or the installer?
[03:19] <gh0st> strabes: normally typing "amarok" as acommand should open it!? it doesn't work
[03:19] <slavik> _greg: as in, it doesn't save the gateway?
[03:19] <rbil> Megaqwerty: just install some Nautilus scripts to make life much easier for yourself ... see here for examples ... http://customdesign.homelinux.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=43
[03:19] <SpudDogg> soundray, yes, i did already skip to that one
[03:19] <SpaceFrog> anon32: The installer
[03:19] <SpudDogg> soundray, the module is loaded
[03:19] <vortex25> yay for flash 9!
[03:19] <anon32> SpaceFrog, what's the standalone do?
[03:19] <slavik> the beta is out? WHERE?!
[03:19] <_greg> slavik: yes...exactly
[03:19] <SpaceFrog> For playing swf files offline on your filesystem
[03:19] <bruenig> slavik, I just used cp and it copied the symlink...
[03:20] <SpaceFrog> the installer is the firefox integration
[03:20] <vortex25> slavik: one sec i'll get you a link
[03:20] <anon32> slavik, the adobe forum
[03:20] <anon32> it's not a true beta... missing some features, which makes it an alpha
[03:20] <vortex25> flash 9 - http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[03:20] <bruenig> slavik, nevermind only some of the symlinks are working
[03:20] <strabes> gh0st: are the command #'s corresponding? if you typed amarok into command_1, then you have to type the name of the button into run_command_1
[03:20] <slavik> bruenig: must be bad cp on freebsd :P
[03:20] <slavik> oh, ok
[03:20] <bruenig> some work some don'
[03:20] <bruenig> t
[03:20] <soundray> SpudDogg: now you'll have to do the STA stuff, which I can't help you with, because I compiled for the simpler rt2570 stuff.
[03:20] <SpudDogg> soundray, when i do the next command (ifconfig) it keeps telling me the device does not exist?
[03:20] <strabes> it's possible that those are not the correct names for the keys either
[03:21] <gh0st> strabes: yes
[03:21] <slavik> _greg: I dunno what to say
[03:21] <strabes> gh0st: ok i found the command that will tell you the names of the buttons
[03:21] <strabes> gh0st: type 'xev' in a terminal
[03:22] <soundray> SpudDogg: maybe it has a different name -- check with ifconfig -a
[03:22] <strabes> gh0st: then in the box press the buttons you want to use and see what it outputs
[03:22] <_greg> slavik...yeah it saves everything else, or seems to. Where can I enter it with nano?
[03:22] <gh0st> strabes: where should the output be?
[03:22] <SpudDogg> soundray, nope, its not there.  do you think a reboot would help?
[03:22] <slavik> man ifconfig, something should be there (note, I haven't looked much into the issue)
[03:22] <strabes> it's in the terminal
[03:22] <anon32> ifconfig == ipconfig ?
[03:23] <slavik> _greg: you should learn vim :)
[03:23] <Mad3Max3> soundray, doesn't seem to work anyway! sigh.. never thought installing drivers should all this work!
[03:23] <slavik> anon32: pretty much, but ifconfig is more powerful
[03:23] <studz> hi
[03:23] <Mad3Max3> be*
[03:23] <_greg> slavik....yeah i know.
[03:23] <slavik> anon32: ipconfig doesn't exist in *nix :P
[03:23] <gh0st> strabes: is it that? KeymapNotify event, serial 26, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[03:23] <gh0st>     keys:  53  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[03:23] <gh0st>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[03:23] <studz> can i talk to somebody here?
[03:23] <dabaR> no
[03:23] <slavik> anon32: ifconfig can change the MAC address of your network card and you can fake another computer on the network ;)
[03:23] <strabes> gh0st: hmm crap i'm not sure
[03:23] <_greg> slavik....thanks. amn ifconfig
[03:23] <anon32> :-P
[03:23] <slavik> !ask > studz
[03:24] <_greg> man that is
[03:24] <anon32> gah, crapflood
[03:24] <Flannel> studz: #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat, if that's what you're looking for
[03:24] <slavik> _greg: try man woman ...
[03:24] <gh0st> strabes: what would that mean?
[03:24] <slavik> woman is that which we know nothing about ...
[03:24] <_greg> slavik...wouldn't try anything else
[03:25] <soundray> Mad3Max3: blame the hardware manufacturers. If they were just cool enough to disclose their hardware specs, they'd have Linux drivers written for them. Instead they prefer this secrecy nonsense.
[03:25] <slavik> anon32: like what?
[03:25] <slavik> soundray: I think Microsoft is paying them off TBH ...
[03:25] <strabes> gh0st: sorry i dont really know what to tell you
[03:25] <slavik> soundray: Broadcom has a Linux driver for their wifi stuff, but they don't release it ... wonder why
[03:25] <bruenig> secrecy likely because there stuff is not all legit from what I heard. Some of their code may not exactly be original
[03:25] <anon32> slavik, opening network tools shows a dizzying number of simple DDoS tools
[03:25] <strabes> gh0st: you'll have to search on ubuntuforums or something
[03:25] <soundray> slavik: yes, with ATI/NVidia we can be pretty sure about that.
[03:26] <soundray> slavik: I didn't know about Broadcom
[03:26] <slavik> soundray: ATI/NVIDIA at least provide binary stuff
[03:26] <anon32> slavik, if they don't release it, how do you know they have it?
[03:26] <Megaqwerty> I'm still getting the errors
[03:26] <slavik> but a wifi chipset? come on ...
[03:26] <soundray> slavik: but they strike me as that kind of company
[03:26] <Megaqwerty> even in sudo cp -r in bash
[03:26] <Mad3Max3> soundray, Yes! But ppl get these drivers too work.. I must be doing something wrong..
[03:27] <slavik> anon32: Linksys made a router based on Linux with Bcom chipset, they were required to release firmware, only reason there is ANY bcom open source driver
[03:27] <slavik> Mad3Max3: what device?
[03:27] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: can you help? ^^
[03:27] <strabes> gh0st: sorry i couldn't help you; those are the only two ways i know of how to do multimedia keys, and they both work for me =\
[03:27] <wolfbane_691> i was wondering if some 1 can help i have some annoying issues with ubuntu
[03:27] <gh0st> strabes: it did work with keytouch!!!
[03:27] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, what is the error?
[03:27] <slavik> !ask > wolfbane_691
[03:27] <anon32> slavik, open source? is there a closed one then?
[03:27] <gh0st> strabes: at least one command
[03:27] <Megaqwerty> still the same
[03:27] <strabes> gh0st: sweet then why don't u just use that?
[03:28] <slavik> anon32: if you use the windows driver through ndis wrapper :P
[03:28] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, something about some screensaver file right?
[03:28] <talldave> just for information i have installed the Flashplayer 9 plugin and it seems to be working ok
[03:28] <wolfbane_691> shock wave flash player and gyach-E
[03:28] <Mad3Max3> slavik, Imon VFD drivers
[03:28] <gh0st> strabes: well because i tried almost all keyboards :-)
[03:28] <Megaqwerty> yeah, as well as a bunch of others
[03:28] <SpudDogg> soundray, is there an easier way to do this?  you said something about simpler (the way you did it)
[03:28] <strabes> gh0st: oh lol awesome
[03:28] <anon32> slavik, that works?
[03:28] <wolfbane_691> can some 1 pm me
[03:28] <wolfbane_691> please
[03:28] <soundray> SpudDogg: with a different (older) device, yes. Sorry...
[03:28] <strabes> wolfbane_691: just ask your question
[03:28] <slavik> anon32: man ethereal, man nmap, man ettercap, man kismet (if you want to see some network tools)
[03:28] <strabes> gh0st: so is it working for all your buttons?
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: ^^
[03:29] <slavik> Mad3Max3: pardon my ignorance, but what is that?
[03:29] <anon32> strabes, clearly this has to do with pr0n
[03:29] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, may be a permissions issue, /etc should have 755 permissions
[03:29] <anon32> wolfbane_691, we're all nerds, don't be embaressed
[03:29] <Megaqwerty> um...how do I check that?
[03:29] <anon32> slavik, :-P
[03:29] <wolfbane_691> oh im not embaressed
[03:29] <strabes> anon32: what? lol
[03:29] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok.  well, now i rebooted and tried to reload the module with '/sbin/insmod rt73.ko' and i get the error file not found
[03:29] <slavik> anon32: just use wikipedia since those man pages wouldn't be installed by default
[03:29] <rbil> Megaqwerty: what are you trying to do?
[03:29] <strabes> anon32: hopefully not pr0n lol
[03:29] <wolfbane_691> im a complete noob to linux
[03:29] <anon32> Megaqwerty, use "ls -l /"
[03:30] <Mad3Max3> slavik, lol. well it's the drivers for my USB display screen on my HTPC case.. it's manufactured by imon..
[03:30] <talisein> !info pornview
[03:30] <soundray> SpudDogg: you have to change to the dir where you did the compile.
[03:30] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[03:30] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, do ls -l /|grep etc, it should look like this drwxr-xr-x
[03:30] <anon32> slavik, lol
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> drwxr-xr-x
[03:30] <Megaqwerty> yeah
[03:30] <strabes> then just ask your question wolfbane_691
[03:30] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, what is the actual error message
[03:30] <wolfbane_691> how do i get those things running
[03:30] <slavik> Mad3Max3: have you tried google at all? because you should be detecting a video card there and then setting up xorg.conf properly to have a session on the screen
[03:30] <gh0st> strabes: yes! thank you!
[03:31] <strabes> gh0st: awesome glad to help you out
[03:31] <slavik> Mad3Max3: do 'lspci' and post the text into pastebin
[03:31] <slavik> !pastebin
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:31] <Madpilot> wolfbane_691, what things?
[03:31] <slavik> not into the channel
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: Would you like to continue?
[03:31] <strabes> wolfbane_691: get what things running
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/etc/X11/a...creenSaver".
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> sorry, didn't copy the whole thing
[03:31] <talisein> !info wesnoth >anon32
[03:31] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1541 kB, installed size 3436 kB
[03:31] <wolfbane_691> flashplayer shock wave gyach-E
[03:31] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, that worked...im an idiot
[03:31] <SpudDogg> lol
[03:31] <Megaqwerty> then i get after saying skip: Error "Operation not permitted" while copying "/etc/X11/gdm".
[03:32] <strabes> wolfbane_691 use automatix www.getautomatix.com it makes all that kind of stuff really easy
[03:32] <VPN> hello
[03:32] <LjL> !automatix > strabes
[03:32] <LjL> !automatix > wolfbane_691
[03:32] <wolfbane_691> i was told to stay away from it
[03:32] <anon32> talisein, but does it rival commercial games?
[03:32] <VPN> how do i install acidrip in ubuntu
[03:32] <talisein> anon32: yeah
[03:32] <Flannel> wolfbane_691: correctly so
[03:32] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: those are some of the messages
[03:32] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell wolfbane_691 about flash
[03:32] <talisein> anon32: Its a pretty good SRPG, full story and everything
[03:32] <strabes> ljl  - i know dude i'm just telling him
[03:32] <anon32> talisein, it says that it's 4MB///
[03:32] <Madpilot> VPN, it's in Multiverse
[03:33] <Megaqwerty> brueing: I get either skip, cancel, or retry as options
[03:33] <soundray> SpudDogg: best if you 'cp rt73.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/usb/net/ ; depmod -a'. After that you will be able to just 'modprobe rt73' anywhere in the filesystem.
[03:33] <Flannel> strabes: please don't recommend automatix here
[03:33] <LjL> strabes: well... don't. at least not without a huge warning if you really have to.
[03:33] <talisein> anon32: lol, that's surprising. Maybe there is a wesnoth-art package
[03:33] <Mad3Max3> slavik, videocard.. it,s just a little small Vacuum fluorescent display .. I don't think a videocard is needed for it..
[03:33] <soundray> SpudDogg: you can then also add 'rt73' to /etc/modules
[03:33] <Nickless> I want to connect internet on my ubuntu system.. and my service provider using ISA server ..how can I connect Internet...anyone help?
[03:33] <rbil> could it be having a problem copying XScreenSaver which is link?
[03:33] <anon32> commercial games would be Final Fantasy XIII, Half-Life 2, and Far Cry
[03:33] <wolfbane_691> what is so bad about it
[03:33] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, well the first one appears to be referring to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver
[03:33] <Megaqwerty> right
[03:33] <talisein> !info wesnoth-data
[03:33] <ubotu> wesnoth-data: data files for Wesnoth. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 15898 kB, installed size 30660 kB
[03:33] <SpudDogg> soundray, yes, im adding it to /etc/modules so it will just load at boot
[03:33] <Nickless> I want to connect internet on my ubuntu system.. and my service provider using ISA server ..how can I connect Internet...anyone help?
[03:33] <strabes> flannel: why not?
[03:33] <talisein> !info wesnoth-httt
[03:33] <ubotu> wesnoth-httt: Heir to the Throne official campaign for Wesnoth. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1+reverted+to+1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5362 kB, installed size 7816 kB
[03:34] <strabes> what is the big problem with automatix geez
[03:34] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, those are all symbolic links
[03:34] <soundray> SpudDogg: you need to do the above maneouvre before that will work.
[03:34] <Flannel> strabes: because it does more harm than good, and it's not a good idea to suggest things that break peoples systems
[03:34] <Megaqwerty> burening: meaning...what?
[03:34] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, thanks
[03:34] <anon32> talisein, still not large enough... 17M can't compete with a 4.5G eyecandy game
[03:34] <wolfbane_691> ahh ok
[03:34] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, must be like sivik was saying, it has issues copying symbolic links over
[03:34] <Nickless> I want to connect internet on my ubuntu system.. and my service provider using ISA server ..how can I connect Internet...anyone help?
[03:34] <anon32> *cough* oblivion
[03:34] <Megaqwerty> briening: what are symbolic links?
[03:34] <strabes> hmm it has never hurt my system =\
[03:34] <soundray> SpudDogg: welcome. Hope you get it working. I need to get some sleep now before work starts in <5h.
[03:34] <LjL> strabes, #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion
[03:34] <LjL> !works for me > strabes
[03:34] <rabautz> Nickless: we had one at isa-server at school. I built a VPN with openvpn to my home-server to get out ;)
[03:35] <franz_mobile> I need some help
[03:35] <rbil> can one pm on this channel?
[03:35] <VPN> madpilot: it says lsdvd broken packages  i am lost
[03:35] <talisein> bah. all that matters is fun.
[03:35] <wolfbane_691> it says i can copy 2 files in to my browsers plug in folder for flash player
[03:35] <Flannel> rbil: this server, yes.  but you need to be registered and identified to services (/msg nickserv help register)
[03:35] <wolfbane_691> where is browsers plug in folders
[03:35] <Nickless> rabautz: If you can't help then shut your fuckin' mouth ....gotcha!!
[03:35] <wolfbane_691> on firefox
[03:35] <talisein> !language
[03:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:35] <LjL> !language > Nickless
[03:35] <SpudDogg> soundray, i get the error 'FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied'
[03:35] <wastrel> !language
[03:36] <anon32> !language
[03:36] <Madpilot> Nickless, randomly abusing people is not going to get anyone else to help you any faster...
[03:36] <soundray> SpudDogg: sorry, yo need to sudo that
[03:36] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, a symbolic link is a file that refers to another file
[03:36] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:36] <SpudDogg> soundray, i did sudo it
[03:36] <dabaR> !language
[03:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> ah
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> ok, thanks
[03:36] <studz> me...filipino ba d2?
[03:36] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, you could follow sivik and tar the directory, move that tar then extract, little more work
[03:36] <Madpilot> !ph
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> bruinig: so how would I back up my importaint system files?
[03:36] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[03:36] <Megaqwerty> *important
[03:37] <soundray> SpudDogg: 'sudo depmod -a'?
[03:37] <SpudDogg> soundray, that went
[03:37] <wolfbane_691> any 1 know where browsers plugin folder on firefox
[03:37] <VPN> how do i install acidrip when system complains about broken package lsdvd?
[03:38] <anon32> VPN, fix it
[03:38] <Mad3Max3> slavik, I have posted it in pastebin
[03:38] <hobbesmaster> wolfbane_691: you trying to install the flash 9 plugin?
[03:38] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, tar them I suppose.
[03:38] <wolfbane_691> yeah
[03:38] <deltab> ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:38] <VPN> anon32:how do i fix it probably show have been my question
[03:38] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: ok, how would I do that (sorry for the noobish question)
[03:38] <wolfbane_691> and where does that go?
[03:38] <hobbesmaster> wolfbane_691, you'll have to crate the directory ~/.mozilla/plugins and dump the .so in there
[03:38] <anon32> VPN, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:38] <Megaqwerty> I've never compressed something in linux before
[03:38] <hobbesmaster> just like the readme says :)
[03:39] <SpudDogg> soundray, this is too much for me right now.  i think i might just return this card
[03:39] <whaley> does anyone know the maximum number of files a ext3 partition can hold?
[03:39] <wolfbane_691> how do i do that
[03:39] <SpudDogg> soundray, if you're not too busy, would you consider remote desktoping in to help me?
[03:39] <julio_> hola hello
[03:40] <Megaqwerty> !tar
[03:40] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:40] <rbil> ok, I think I registered. can I pm anyone to test it?
[03:40] <soundray> SpudDogg: I know the feeling. Trouble is, all current cards (that I could find) are difficult or impossible at the moment.
[03:40] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, for instance to tar your etc directory the following command would do "sudo tar -cvpf backupetc.tar /etc" for an uncompressed tar or if you want to compress it just add a z "sudo tar -cvpzf backupetc.tar /etc
[03:40] <soundray> SpudDogg: in principle, yes, but not now.
[03:40] <deltab> whaley: depends on the number of inodes assigned to it when it was created
[03:40] <hobbesmaster> whaley: V/(2^23) where V is the size of the ext3 partition in bytes
[03:40] <deltab> whaley: df -i
[03:40] <anon32> someone point out a test page for flash 9?
[03:40] <anon32> file-roller sucks for 7z..
[03:41] <marc_> Adobe
[03:41] <talisein> whaley: Volumesize / (2^13) (wikipedia: ext3)
[03:41] <SpudDogg> soundray, well, i definately appreciate your help man...you are the man.   i have 30 days to return the card, so if i/you cannot get it working by then, i'll return the freaking thing
[03:41] <whaley> ahhh, danke sirs :)
[03:41] <marc_> Platyer.....has a tester
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: THANKS!!!!!
[03:41] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, those flags stand for, c means create, v means verbose so that it tells you what is happening, p means preserve the permissions, f means force so that it won't ask you on every file if you want to add that, z means zip or compress
[03:41] <whaley> deltab: useful argument to df... i wasn't aware of that
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> it worked thank the lord
[03:42] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: how would I un-tar it?
[03:42] <Megaqwerty> if I need to do so
[03:42] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, sudo tar xf backupetc.tar
[03:42] <Megaqwerty> bruenig: thanks again.
[03:42] <sproingie> zxf if it's compressed
[03:42] <anon32> hmm....
[03:43] <Mad3Max3> slavik or soundray, here is the url to the page with the drivers and their install notes.. maybe u can get some sence out of it!  http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ .. it's the standalone drivers
[03:43] <talisein> gah.
[03:43] <bawnpa> ewe
[03:43] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, actually you should keep the p in there now that I think of it, if you wanted to untar it and replace the /etc directory had you ruined it or whatnot it would be "sudo tar xpvf backupetc.tar -C /etc"
[03:43] <rbil> wow!
[03:44] <Sonic|Laptop> fun stuff
[03:44] <rbil> someone cut a cord?
[03:44] <bruenig> gees
[03:44] <Mad3Max3> I repost my last message "slavik or soundray, here is the url to the page with the drivers and their install notes.. maybe u can get some sence out of it!  http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ .. it's the standalone drivers"
[03:44] <genus5> wth just happened
[03:44] <Phlosten> whaley: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[03:44] <Phlosten> oops, my bad :)
[03:44] <bimberi> !netsplit
[03:45] <bruenig> lol
[03:45] <bruenig> this is fun
[03:45] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:45] <Phlosten> heh
[03:45] <FinFanFan> funny
[03:45] <bruenig> well this server wins because we kept 600 + whereas they must have less than 400
[03:46] <Luakagon> pop that corn :I
[03:46] <talisein> so is there no way for this channel to have someone get ops?
[03:46] <bruenig> * _Tristan_ (n=Tristan@A.Condom.Made.My.Firewall.Pr0tected.us) has joined #ubuntu
[03:46] <bruenig> talisein, use the !ops trigger
[03:46] <bimberi> talisein: there are ops around, is there an issue?
[03:46] <talisein> no, just wondering
[03:46] <bruenig> !hi
[03:46] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:47] <Madpilot> talisein, there are several ops around, but they don't run op'd all the time
[03:47] <FinFanFan> wow, welcome back :)
[03:47] <rbil> clearing out the lurkers :-)
[03:47] <talisein> ty
[03:47] <Madpilot> talisein, and that ops tell - that's like dialling 911, don't hit it just to get attention please.
[03:48] <talisein> ? I didn't ? but ok. ;)
[03:49] <gh0st> how can i set a command on specific time, for ex. shutdown pc at xx hour ?
[03:49] <rbil> marc_: if you run something like ethereal you can capture the packets and actually see what is happening and why the smtp server isn't connecting with you.
[03:50] <rabautz> gh0st: cron?
[03:50] <bawnpa> gh0st, with crontab
[03:50] <gh0st> well i can't find it in synaptic
[03:50] <Shadow_mil> how can I become a XDMCP host?
[03:50] <bimberi> gh0st: for one-off commands - look at the 'at' command.  Repeated commands - cron
[03:50] <marc_> rbil.....how can I do that?
[03:50] <bawnpa> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab   nice article there about it
[03:50] <bruenig> the wonderful world of crontab gh0st, it is not a gui program, you have to edit text files
[03:50] <rabautz> gh0st: crontab -e
[03:50] <lufis> I've noticed that although bz2 compression is better, most people stick to gz... why is this?
[03:50] <gh0st> but i can't instal
[03:50] <gh0st> it
[03:51] <gh0st> it's not even in the repos
[03:51] <rbil> marc_: do what? install ethereal? or use ethereal? can hardly explain the latter in this venue.
[03:51] <rabautz> gh0st: Its already there ...
[03:51] <gh0st> bimberi: can you tell me a bit more
[03:51] <bimberi> s/bz2/linux/  s/gz/windows/
[03:51] <talisein> lufis: bz2 is newer, less widely available. Also, I don't know if BSD has a bz2 tool
[03:51] <marc_> use ethereal
[03:51] <lufis> talisein: Ahh, ok
[03:51] <lufis> talisein: Thankie
[03:51] <gh0st> rabautz: ok, so what should i enter for pc to shut down
[03:51] <im247blk> Hi everybody, can someone hlp me with a prnt setup prob - Dapper, HP-Dj540C, Parallel prt
[03:52] <gh0st> rabautz: can i use "sudo" too?
[03:52] <rbil> marc_: it's really simple, but can't explain it here to you. just google for ethereal. you'll be able to see the packets as they go out and the response from the server
[03:52] <talisein> lufis: also higher CPU time I think, which might be significant for older machines
[03:52] <bimberi> gh0st: what do you want to do? shutdown every day at a particular time?
[03:52] <marc_> rbil....thanks.....I will give it a go.
[03:53] <rabautz> gh0st: only if you use the "NOPASSWD"-option in /etc/sudoers, bu tyou can use roots crontab ..
[03:53] <gh0st> bimberi: no, just one time
[03:53] <Mad3Max3> slavik, did u see the pastebin? and what is your thought about it?
[03:53] <rbil> marc_: just run ethereal and start capturing packets, then try to smtp to your server. stop ethereal and look at what happened.
[03:53] <gh0st> rabautz: sudo crontab -e ?
[03:53] <rabautz> gh0st: yes
[03:53] <gh0st> rabautz; what does "# m h  dom mon dow   command" mean?
[03:54] <AdamMK> where are the C header files located?
[03:54] <hobbesmaster> AdamMK: you'll have to be a bit more specific on that one
[03:54] <rabautz> gh0st: read a howto .. minute hour day_of_month month day_of_week AFAIR
[03:54] <rbil> gh0st: looks like a crontab line
[03:55] <slavik> Mad3Max3: no, sorry ... gimmie like 10 min, going to reboot into edgy, update, get media working and install the beta flash :D
[03:55] <talisein> # Minute Hour DayOfMonth Month DayOfWeek
[03:55] <bimberi> gh0st: 'man at' will give you instructions on that command (if you choose to do it that way)
[03:55] <gh0st> rabautz: if i just give a time, will it take make it every day at this time?
[03:55] <im247blk> I cnt get prntg to wrk on my live CD Dapper can  someone hlp
[03:56] <AdamMK> i'm installing VMware Server Console and it asks: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" and give the suggested directory: /usr/src/linux/include/
[03:56] <AdamMK> but when i use the suggested it says it doesn't exist/isn't the right one
[03:56] <SuperMiguel> if i have 70 folders on my desktop and i want to copy all of them which command will be the one that i need to use, cp -a /var/music??
[03:57] <fdsd> yes FLASH 9!!!
[03:57] <bruenig> gh0st, what I did and this was a while back was add my username in /etc/cron.allow, so do sudo gedit /etc/cron.allow and just type your username and save. And then just do "crontab -e" and then put the appropriate information.
[03:57] <fdsd> whoohoo!!
[03:57] <talisein> SuperMiguel: "cp -a ~/Desktop/* /var/music" will copy everything on your desktop to /var/music
[03:57] <gh0st> bruenig: if i just set the time+command: will it execute it every day at this time?
[03:58] <hobbesmaster> AdamMK: you don't have the kernel source by default, you need the linux-headers-YOUR_KERNEL_VERSION_HERE-686 package
[03:58] <bruenig> gh0st, did you not read that article, it is pretty good at explaining the syntax of the file
[03:58] <bruenig> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab
[03:58] <SuperMiguel>  sudo cp -a .* /var/music will do the same?
[03:59] <talisein> or the man page, which has many examples
[03:59] <rbil> AdamMK: do uname -r to get the kernel name and then the headers you'll need to install
[03:59] <gh0st> bruenig: thx for link
[03:59] <talisein> SuperMiguel: ./* might be better. I don't know if .* matches .. which might be bad.
[04:00] <talisein> SuperMiguel: or just * if you are in that directory
[04:02] <marc_> rbil: so I went to THunderbird....and confirgured the same e-mail address....and was able to manipulate the SMTP port without question...and It's all working.
[04:02] <marc_> why not able to configure port settings on "Evolution"
[04:02] <AdamMK> ok found it now 1 sec while i go back through the installation
[04:03] <Rockj> how do I pass the expert option on bootup when installing ubuntu?
[04:03] <Rockj> is it just to press f5/f6? and add   expert?
[04:04] <talisein> whatever button it is to get to the boot line, then type in expert instead of linux
[04:04] <abyss> anyone can help me with gettin my vmware work?
[04:04] <abyss> what means : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:04] <abyss> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[04:04] <rabautz> marc_: I'm quite sure you could have just write your smtp-server in the form: mx.myprovider.com:25 where 25 is the port to use ..
[04:05] <talisein> didn't we just answer that? that was someone else...
[04:05] <abyss> where i get the matching C Headerfiles?
[04:05] <talisein> abyss: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-YOUR_KERNEL-VERSION_HERE
[04:05] <cafuego> Specifically, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:05] <talisein> yeah
[04:06] <im247blk> Hi, can anyone help me get printing on Dapper Drake? Read the FAQs, Googled, still no go!!
[04:06] <marc_> rab: I tried that ...but it still was not working...
[04:06] <talisein> im247blk: what printer?
[04:07] <im247blk> talisein: HP-DJ-540C, parall prt
[04:07] <SuperMiguel> when you set a hosted page with any servidor they ask you do you want to make with linux or with windows operating system with page is better?
[04:08] <gh0st> "sudo shutdown now" will shutdown the computer, right?
[04:08] <AdamMK> thank you guys it got past that step
[04:08] <talisein> gh0st: yes
[04:09] <rabautz> gh0st: yes. NOW .. ;)
[04:09] <QMario> Yes!
[04:09] <QMario> Flash 9!!!!
[04:09] <AdamMK> thanks hommesmaster and rbil
[04:09] <marc_> CIao FOlks...Enjoy.
[04:10] <cafuego> Woo! new closed-source software with unknown bugs!
[04:10] <sipher> Anyone running Opera?
[04:10] <gh0st> is it possible to specify a time when the pc will be shut down -without cron or similar - just with shutdown?
[04:10] <nylund> flash9???
[04:10] <cafuego> gh0st: yes
[04:10] <talisein> im247blk: so System->Printing->Add a new printer->Select Parrellel port -> HP- -> Deskjet 540C doesn't work?
[04:11] <gh0st> cafuego: how would you enter shutdown at 2:00h for ex.?
[04:11] <cafuego> gh0st: As opposed to 'now' you could enter a time.
[04:11] <cafuego> gh0st: sudo shutdown -h 2:00
[04:11] <gh0st> thanks cafuego
[04:11] <cafuego> gh0st: See also 'shutdown -h -t 3600
[04:12] <im247blk> talisein: Prntr Typ -> Local but no prntr detected  and Prntr_Port ->hp no_device_found???
[04:12] <cafuego> (shuts down in 1 hour from now)
[04:12] <gh0st> cafuego: what's that?
[04:12] <talisein> im247blk: yes
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to suspend/hiberate the computer and have it _wake up_ at a specified time?
[04:13] <gh0st> cafuego: what does 'shutdown -h -t 3600 do?
[04:13] <cafuego> gh0st: Shuts the machine down in 3600 seconds (an hour)
[04:13] <rbil> if it is suspended what would be "thinking" of restarting it?
[04:13] <im247blk> talisein: whn I add the prnt, look for driver nothing hapns, also cant find /dev/lp0...lp1 but parport and lp found
[04:14] <sproingie> windows could wake my laptop from suspend at a specific time
[04:14] <sproingie> not gonna work with hibernate tho, when it's hibernating, it's *off*
[04:14] <talisein> im247blk: is there a 540 listed under Printers now?
[04:14] <rbil> really Windoze can do that?
[04:14] <rbil> how does it do that?
[04:15] <sproingie> rbil: i suspect there's bios support for it
[04:15] <im247blk> talisein: Yes. I select it and hit apply but nada... no prntr added...???
[04:15] <rbil> must be bios
[04:15] <Halpo> what are your guys opinions on kde vs gnome?
[04:15] <deltab> rbil: the motherboard clock has an alarm setting which can be used to power on the machine
[04:15] <rbil> usde kde for years, love gnome!
[04:15] <rbil> used
[04:15] <cafuego> Halpo: irrelevant
[04:15] <talisein> right click and go to properties.. connection. in that clickdown thing, there's no option for the parport?
[04:16] <talisein> Halpo: use what you like most, not what we like ;)
[04:16] <Halpo> im just trying to figure out what the real differences are
[04:16] <Halpo> is one easier to use for those new to linux
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> sproingie, rbil: I have something in the bios about waking it, but it doesn't seem to work.
[04:17] <rbil> Halpo: is more windows-like, imho
[04:17] <Halpo> kde?
[04:17] <leftjustified> Halpo: gnome tries to be easy.
[04:17] <rbil> wake on lan?
[04:17] <talisein> GNOME has a more structured, standard interface and also has a strong focus on accessability. KDE has a less structured, but more.. featureful? Or at least easier to modify features approach.
[04:17] <tech13> attempting to play a DVD on my machine via the DVD+-R drive (the only DVD drive on the computer) and it causes my machine to hard crash when opening a folder to the DVD or attempting to play. (hard crash as in, no keyboard, no mouse, no ping from another machine)  Where should I start looking for the answer?
[04:17] <im247blk> talisein: this is all in step 2 of 3: Printer Driver...
[04:17] <buffer> is
[04:17] <buffer> is xchat broken?
[04:18] <buffer> Ever
[04:18] <buffer> in the text-version right now.
[04:18] <buffer> can't seem to get it to work..
[04:18] <buffer> complaining about python
[04:18] <talisein> im247blk: oh. Just click forward, does it go to the next page?
[04:18] <abyss> anyone can tell me how i can export a path forever? actually i have to export it every time after reboot :(
[04:19] <pluto> Hi all.  I have a question.  I'm running 2 computers ( 1 with XP & 1 with Ubuntu) How can I network them together to transfer a file from XP to Ubuntu?
[04:19] <deltab> abyss: it'll only affect the process it's done in and its subsequent children, while that process runs
[04:19] <rbil> pluto: setup samba on linux side
[04:19] <julian> anyone know how to install ati driver in edgy
[04:19] <abyss> pluto: think samba is the solution
[04:19] <im247blk> talisein: Yes. Step 3 of 3: Printer Info -> Apply -> but no printer gets added
[04:19] <deltab> abyss: but you can put it in a file to be executed automatically every time
[04:19] <talisein> im247blk: drat. Well, your printer is turned on right?
[04:19] <rabautz> pluto: You could install eg ftpd on linux and then use a ftp-client on windows .. or samba like abyss told ..
[04:20] <rbil> pluto: samba client would be sufficient and you'd then have access to Windoze shares
[04:20] <pluto> rbil: What do I physically need - Do I need a hub?
[04:20] <sethk> pluma_, easiest way is to install cygwin on the windows box
[04:20] <sethk> pluma_, sorry
[04:20] <xroach> hi
[04:20] <rbil> pluto: if you want to share from linux to windoze, then the samba server required
[04:20] <sethk> pluto, easiest thing is to install cygwin on the windows box
[04:20] <blind> I installed Flash 9 into Firefox using CXOffice, and I want to uninstall it. I uninstalled it via CXOffice, then installed flash 7, but the Flash 9 pop up must have come up while i was typing, and it reinstalled itself. How can I uninstall it for good?
[04:20] <deltab> abyss: e.g ~/.bashrc
[04:20] <sethk> pluto, for just two boxes you can use a crossover cable
[04:20] <xroach> what might be wrong when my ubuntu always freezes when i use skype
[04:20] <rabautz> pluto: hub, switch or cross-over-cable ..
[04:20] <abyss> deltab: export UT_DATA_PATH=/usr/local/games/ut/System can i make this permanent?
[04:20] <im247blk> talisein: Printer attached and turned on, tried CMOS set in ECC as well as Bi-Direct mode, nothing...
[04:20] <sethk> pluto, more than two you need a switch or hub.  Since switches these days are as cheap as hubs, don't use a hub
[04:20] <talisein> im247blk: ah, CMOS was next thing. Hmm.
[04:21] <deltab> abyss: add it to .bash_profile or .bashrc
[04:21] <rbil> xroach: maybe the audio driver it's using?
[04:21] <pluto> sethk: is a switch different than a 4 port router?
[04:21] <abyss> deltab: where i find them?
[04:21] <sethk> pluto, there is no such thing as a 4 port router.  what that is, is a 4 port switch and a router in the same box.
[04:21] <im247blk> talisein: Did notice that no /dev/lp0...lp2 present when ls /dev/lp*
[04:21] <dredhammer> hello all , i'm trying to install Kino and all the addons as listed here : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Video_Editor_.28Kino.29
[04:21] <dredhammer> but
[04:21] <pluto> sethk: sorry 4 port switch.
[04:21] <xroach> rb1l and it also freezes when moving files through samba
[04:21] <im247blk> !printer
[04:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:21] <dredhammer> i get only as far as Kino itself
[04:21] <dredhammer> kinoplus and all the others
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, wha t I meant is that you have a switch and a router combination there.
[04:22] <dredhammer> won't install via synaptic or apt-get
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, no need for an additional switch
[04:22] <dredhammer> i tried to compile them
[04:22] <pluto> sethk: so that will work to physically move files?
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, yes
[04:22] <dredhammer> but they say i'm missing gnome-libs
[04:22] <talisein> im247blk: um, when I click apply, even though I don't have anything attached I get the printer to show up in Printers..
[04:22] <dredhammer> but i have that installed
[04:22] <pluto> sethk: good! :)  Where do I get Samba?
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, and you can use scp and/or sftp software..
[04:22] <rbil> xroach: do the logs tell you anything. shouldn't be having these probs
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, you don't need samba just to transfer files
[04:22] <sethk> pluto, you need samba to mount windows shares on the linux box
[04:23] <im247blk> talisein: Only clue I have to go on is missing /dev/lp* files...
[04:23] <sethk> pluto, or to use a windows printer on the linux box, etc.
[04:23] <talisein> im247blk: Under description, type in some text there on step 3 and try to apply
[04:23] <sethk> pluto, just to transfer files, you can use openssh (which includes the sftp and scp, secure ftp and secure copy, utilities)
[04:23] <xroach> rbil wich logs?
[04:23] <abyss> pluto: a graphical X Tool for browsing network might be linneighbourhood (dont know is speeling is right ^^)
[04:23] <im247blk> talisein: been there, done that... stll nada!!
[04:23] <xroach> im pretty new with linux.....
[04:24] <rbil> xroach: /var/log
[04:24] <rbil> maybe messages
[04:24] <sethk> pluto, did you understand what I meant about when you need samba, and when you don't?
[04:24] <sethk> pluto, I'm not sure I was clear.
[04:24] <pluto> sethk: so samba is installed on the linux box?
[04:24] <sethk> pluto, correct
[04:24] <Alakazamz0r> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8364765888913844739&q=midget+breakdancing
[04:24] <Alakazamz0r> oops, wrong window
[04:24] <abyss> where i find the .bash_profile or .bashrc
[04:24] <abyss> ?
[04:24] <rbil> pluto: install samba server on Linux box and then you can simply rightclick on a folder and share it with a windoze box. very easy to do.
[04:25] <sethk> xroach, do this:   ls -ltr /var/log       that will print the files in reverse time order.  the last file printed is the one most recently changed.  that's where you might find useful info in the log
[04:25] <sethk> xroach, although most of the time on that type of crash you don't find anything in the logs.  but it's worth checking.
[04:25] <pluto> rbil: Sounds too easy.  Do I need to have a fat partition on my linux box?
[04:25] <sethk> pluto, no
[04:25] <rbil> pluto: no
[04:25] <sethk> pluto, it is easy.
[04:25] <talisein> im247blk: from terminal: "lsmod |grep parport"
[04:26] <pluto> sethk: can I do "apt-get install samba"?
[04:26] <sethk> pluto, you create a samba file system, from the kernel perspective (-t smbfs if you mount at the command line)
[04:26] <sethk> pluto, I'm not sure if that's the exact package name.  I'll check.
[04:26] <rabautz> abyss: cd; ls -al | grep bash
[04:27] <sethk> pluto, yes, package samba.  also install package samba-doc
[04:27] <rabautz> abyss: its in your home-directory ..
[04:27] <pluto> sethk: samba-doc I assume is the manual?
[04:27] <im247blk> talisein: parpot_pc and ppdev, lp,  parport_pc
[04:27] <sethk> pluto, right, man pages, docs.
[04:27] <talisein> im247blk: do you have a /dev/parport0?
[04:28] <sethk> pluto, after you install, look in /usr/share/doc/samba-doc
[04:28] <xroach> then i have also another problem . my ubuntu boots extremely slow, it uses several minutes in the network stuff while booting, is it because i use wifi?
[04:28] <rbil> pluto: samba can be very involved. don't get bogged down, install samba server, right click on a folder in linux and share it.
[04:28] <Rookie_> or man samba
[04:28] <pluto> sethk: I'm a linux newbie, but can I install both samba and docs from the same command line?
[04:28] <im247blk> talise: No. ls: /dev/par*: No such file or directory
[04:28] <sethk> pluto, yes.  Use synaptic, though, it's much easier
[04:29] <sethk> pluto, it gives you a nice point and click front end to apt-get
[04:29] <rbil> pluto: sudo apt-get install samba
[04:29] <pluto> sethk: sorry, but what is synaptic?
[04:29] <rbil> pluto: suo apt-get install samba-doc
[04:29] <rbil> sudo
[04:29] <sethk> pluto, a program for installing, uninstalling, etc., packages
[04:29] <pluto> rbil: :)
[04:30] <rbil> done, installed
[04:31] <pluto> sethk: I've seen the word repositories.  What exactly is that?
[04:31] <sethk> pluto, it's a server that apt-get searches for packages
[04:32] <pluto> sethk: Can I controll which servers apt-get searches?
[04:32] <rbil> sethk: don't confuse with supositories, they go in the other end :-)
[04:32] <im247blk> talisein: The prt prnts fine undr Win-doesn't
[04:32] <sethk> pluto, sure.  at the command line you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <talisein> im247blk: heh
[04:32] <sethk> pluto, or in synaptic you chose repositories from the menus.
[04:32] <Led_Zeppelin> I am running Ubuntu 64bit, how can I get a plugin for Flash/
[04:33] <Led_Zeppelin> ?
[04:33] <sethk> pluto, end result is the same, just different interfaces.
[04:33] <talisein> im247blk: you have a lp1 but not lp0?
[04:33] <uberspaced> where would I put a startup script for something like say, a database?
[04:33] <uberspaced> like postgres?
[04:33] <sethk> pluto, if you edit the file, putting a "#" at the beginning of the line removes the line.
[04:33] <im247blk> talisein: The laptop I'm doin ths on is a WinXp box that prints to the HP prntr and wrks but not when Ubuntu booted
[04:34] <pluto> sethk: Thanks for your help.  I know I've seen synaptic before, but cannot remember where (under what menu).
[04:34] <sethk> uberspaced, you can put it in rc.local.  there are several places you can use.
[04:34] <Homer> does upstart decrease the loading time of Ubuntu?
[04:34] <sethk> pluto, just type     sudo synaptic         at the command line
[04:34] <whyso> hi, could someone poitn me to a fast mirrior for dling kubuntu please im in a big hurry!
[04:34] <sethk> pluto, I have no idea what menu it's on, I find menus hard to use, since I can type.  :)
[04:34] <Homer> !kubuntu
[04:34] <pluto> sethk: easy enough!
[04:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:34] <uberspaced> sethk, i think i'll do the rc.local thing i guess; i dont know what's proper in this case ;)
[04:35] <rabautz> whyso: where are you from? ;)
[04:35] <whyso> va usa
[04:35] <sethk> uberspaced, the "correct" thing to do is probably to add it to the list of scripts associated with a run level (or levels), but it's a bit trickier.
[04:35] <whyso> i know where main dl is pluto, its just going megaslow and i need it fast L:(
[04:35] <uberspaced> sethk, documentation, please
[04:35] <uberspaced> and where should I put the actual script?
[04:36] <talisein> im247blk: do you have any /dev/lp0 or /dev/lp1?
[04:36] <sethk> uberspaced, the convention is to put the script in /etc/init.d, and then to put sym links to the script in the various run level directories.
[04:36] <Homer> does upstart decrease the loading time of Ubuntu?
[04:36] <sethk> uberspaced, e.g., /etc/rc1.d is the directory for run level 1.
[04:36] <Led_Zeppelin> how can I get a 32bit version of firefox for my 64bit installtaion?
[04:36] <im247blk> talisein: no /dev/lp*
[04:36] <sethk> uberspaced, /etc/rc2.d, etc.
[04:36] <danilo_> ubuntu br
[04:36] <danilo_> serve
[04:36] <uberspaced> sethk, redhat had something called chkconfig
[04:37] <uberspaced> is there something similar in ubuntu?
[04:37] <sethk> uberspaced, ubuntu has a similar program.  I don't use it, but someone here will know.
[04:37] <pluto> sethk: There are 4 options under samba - Samba, Samba-common, Samba-dpg, Samba Docs.
[04:37] <uberspaced> basically, you drop a script somewhere, then use chkconfig to specify run levels.
[04:37] <sethk> pluto, you can install all of them.
[04:37] <danilo_> link ubuntu br for irc
[04:38] <sethk> pluto, you don't need to, though, because the dependencies will cause them to be installed anyway
[04:38] <rbil> samba-common will be pulled in when you install samba
[04:38] <sethk> pluto, e.g., if you install samba, you'll get samba-common because of the dependency.
[04:38] <pluto> sethk: oh, so samba needs samba-common to run, right?
[04:39] <uberspaced> update-rc.d looks promising.
[04:39] <sethk> pluto, yes.
[04:39] <sethk> uberspaced, yes, it does.  sounds a bit familiar also.  :)
[04:39] <iammisc> so im using the ubuntu livecd and everything's working. got 3d acceleration, and wireless is fine. sound works too.
[04:40] <jcsteele> i have two exact hard drives, 160 gigs, one has an NTFS partition and has about 6 gigs of free space, i just placed the other drive in the machine, and created an ext3 partition on the drive, fully utilizing the free space...however when i try to copy the data over it runs out of room on the ext3 drive....is there a reason for this?
[04:40] <uberspaced> sethk, it's all comin back to me now; i should have it figured out soon :)
[04:40] <sethk> uberspaced, it's not difficult.
[04:40] <rabautz> uberspaced: When you install postgresql from the ubuntu-repositories the automatic start should be enabled per default ..
[04:40] <uberspaced> sethk, yeah, but i'm a perfectionist that tries to modify too many things at once
[04:40] <uberspaced> rabautz, compiled it from source
[04:41] <iammisc> But I have windows on the disk I would like to install ubuntu too. the disk is exactly 37.62 gb and currently , the windows partition takes up 16gb of the space. But I want to split the hard disk evenly. How do i get rid of all this windows nonsense?
[04:41] <im247blk> talisein: Wht di I do to create the /dev/lp* files? Should I do MAKEDEV lp?
[04:41] <julian> ati + edgy i need help
[04:41] <iammisc> i do need to keep the files that are on the windows partition
[04:41] <uberspaced> sethk, the only pain in the ass part about this stuff is remembering what run levels do what.
[04:41] <talisein> !lp>talisein
[04:41] <sethk> uberspaced, the ubuntu levels are different than the redhat levels
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <pluto> sethk: Anything special I have to do on the XP side, as far as allowing access?
[04:41] <iammisc> also, there is 7 mb of unused space on the hard disk,is this space used for the back up stuff(like storing backup info)?
[04:41] <sethk> pluto, using what?  samba?
[04:41] <talisein> im247blk: I dunno. Sorry =( Anyone a cups guru?
[04:41] <pluto> sethk: yes
[04:42] <uberspaced> sethk, yeah :), remembering it now, i had a firewall that started itself when the machine booted, and then restarted itself when it shut down.  it left me confused for a little bit.
[04:42] <fivre> If I don't have a "Desktop" menu on my top panel in GNOME after installing ubuntu-desktop, how do I get one?
[04:42] <pudland> hello, booting ubuntu from usb drive issues please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27292/
[04:42] <uberspaced> so, it looks like the general procedure is to copy the script to /etc/init.d/
[04:42] <pluto> sethk: what about security, am I creating a situation where I can be hacked?
[04:42] <uberspaced> and use update-rc.d to get it to run for specific run levels.
[04:42] <im247blk> talisein: I'm stumpd... ths my fifth day tryin t get ths to wrk...
[04:42] <sethk> pluto, not really, no.
[04:42] <uberspaced> hmm.  ubuntu run levels.
[04:43] <sethk> pluto, but, you didn't answer my question.  using samba?  or just using sftp/scp?
[04:43] <pluto> sethk: Using samba.
[04:43] <sethk> uberspaced, specifically, run level 1 in ubuntu includes X, whereas in other distros that's typically run level 3.
[04:43] <rarkitty> how can I increase my screen resolution?
[04:44] <uberspaced> sethk, according to wikipedia, ubuntu makes no distinction for 2-5
[04:44] <talisein> im247blk: I'm stumped too. Hard to troubleshoot without a parallel port printer of my own
[04:44] <sethk> uberspaced, depends on which installation options you choose.
[04:44] <rbil> pluto: Places ... Connect to Server ... Service Type: Windows share and the rest you can figure out :-)
[04:44] <uberspaced> sethk, i think i'll install it for 2-5.
[04:44] <sethk> uberspaced, it's best to assume that wikipedia is possibly wrong, especially since they now are saying that they won't let it be updated by anyone.
[04:45] <rarkitty> my screen can only go to 800 x 600 how can I fix that?
[04:45] <sethk> uberspaced, that should be safe.
[04:45] <sethk> rarkitty, run (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:45] <uberspaced> sethk, well then I just might have to do it.
[04:45] <rarkitty> okies
[04:45] <Atomiku> Hmm
[04:45] <Atomiku> I have a general pc question
[04:45] <talisein> im247blk: Try the ubuntu forums
[04:45] <Atomiku> is there a channel for it or shall I ask here?
[04:45] <Atomiku> cant seem to find one >.<
[04:46] <Atomiku> oh well
[04:46] <sethk> Atomiku, you can ask here.  no guarantee that you'll get an answer, of course :)
[04:46] <chuckyp> !ask > Atomiku
[04:46] <pluto> sethk: Thanks again.  You seem really knowledgeable.  Any idea how I can get my ISA Sound Blaster 16 sound card to work, or am I better off just buying a cheap pci card?
[04:46] <uberspaced> hehe, update-rc.d defaults to 2-5 anyhoo.
[04:46] <talisein> just ask
[04:46] <pudland> hello, booting ubuntu from usb drive issues please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27292/
[04:46] <rbil> Atomiku: we all run Macs around here, but you can try
[04:46] <chuckyp> rbil, rofl
[04:46] <Atomiku> I have an old computer with a DVD drive, but it doesnt like to boot dvds, only CDs. Is there any way I can boot a DVD?
[04:46] <utopia> installing or booting?
[04:46] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Can anyone tell me where default applications are stored. I had to install Mozilla as part of a meta but now it's my default browser and I'd prefer to set something else as such.
[04:46] <sethk> pluto, PCI cards are so cheap, but usually the ISA card will work with the default port/irq settings.  I'd buy the pci card anyway.
[04:47] <Atomiku> booting
[04:47] <sethk> Atomiku, there may be, if a BIOS update is available for the mother board.
[04:47] <Atomiku> I have got ubuntu on a DVD but it wont boot
[04:47] <Atomiku> i put also put ubuntu on the only CD i had
[04:47] <Atomiku> but
[04:47] <pluto> sethk: Samba is installed, how do I execute it?
[04:48] <Atomiku> one of the files corrupted, so it crashed back to the "Uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernal" oart
[04:48] <rbil> Atomiku: how did you put it on a CD-R?
[04:48] <Atomiku> nero
[04:48] <im247blk> talisein: tkx!!! I'm out
[04:48] <rbil> did you do a md5sum on the iso before burning
[04:48] <Atomiku> well
[04:48] <Atomiku> no
[04:48] <rbil> well
[04:48] <rbil> do
[04:48] <Atomiku> but as far as I know the ISO was fine
[04:48] <talisein> im247blk: np, sorry I couldn't help. good luck!
[04:48] <rbil> to make sure iso is ok
[04:48] <sethk> pluto, depends on what you want to do.  samba isn't a program, it's a set of programs and libraries.
[04:49] <Atomiku> ive also tried to net install with windows as the server but it doesnt seem to like it
[04:49] <sethk> pluto, as an example, you mount a windows share using the mount command, with -t smbfs
[04:49] <rbil> either a hardware problem or the burn was bad
[04:49] <Atomiku> i would be happy with just doing a net install. When I load tftpd32.exe it says it cant bind to BOOTP address
[04:49] <pluto> sethk: Oh!
[04:50] <sethk> Atomiku, you've set up a BOOTP/DHCP server?
[04:50] <uberspaced> well, shit, default ended up installing it in all rc*.d things.
[04:50] <Atomiku> I tried
[04:50] <uberspaced> removed links by hand, should work fine i guess.
[04:50] <sethk> uberspaced, hmm., well, there is always rm  :)
[04:50] <Atomiku> I tried in hope that I would be able to net install ubuntu instead :(
[04:50] <sethk> Atomiku, yes.  bootp is also dependent on the BIOS
[04:50] <Atomiku> yeah
[04:50] <fivre> I get this error from apt: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/BitTorrent/Choker.py', which is also in package bittorrent-4.2.2.linux
[04:50] <Atomiku> I have a boot disk
[04:50] <fivre> what do I do?
[04:51] <sethk> Atomiku, so see if you can dig up a BIOS Update, it's your best chance of being able to install normally on this box.
[04:51] <Atomiku> "network_boot_floppy+cd+hd_540.zip" I have that
[04:51] <jojoman02> hey if anyone wants an auto-installing package i made for dapper drake 6.06.1 hollar
[04:51] <Atomiku> it boots the floppy fine
[04:51] <Atomiku> says it cant find the IP address though
[04:51] <Atomiku> Anyway, Let me just boot up the computer again and see what it says
[04:51] <sethk> Atomiku, there are so many things that might be causing that.
[04:52] <Atomiku> yeah
[04:52] <Atomiku> the TFTP server isnt actualy working
[04:52] <Atomiku> When I load it up it says "Cannot bind to BOOTP server"
[04:52] <sethk> Atomiku, right, but that can be a server problem, or a client problem.
[04:52] <nrdb> Hi I have just setup a computer with an 'AMD sempron 2800+'  but according to /proc/cpuinfo it is running at 1608.108 MHz, could /proc/cpuinfo report the wrong speed ?
[04:52] <antoni> does anybody know if the next disto of ubuntu will support wpa 1 & 2 natiivly in the network manager?
[04:52] <iammisc> the ubuntu livecd doesnt come with gcc????
[04:52] <sethk> Atomiku, without sniffing packets it's pretty hard to figure out what's failing.
[04:52] <fivre> nrdb: that is the right speed
[04:52] <Atomiku> :(
[04:52] <uberspaced> yay, postgres is working.
[04:52] <fivre> AMD lies in its advertising
[04:52] <sethk> iammisc, doesn't "come with" anything.  you have a list of default packages.
[04:52] <uberspaced> sethk, thanks for the help
[04:53] <sethk> iammisc, depending on which install type you chose, you may or may not get gcc without an additional step.
[04:53] <nrdb> fivre: so is the CPU running at full speed ?
[04:53] <fivre> yes
[04:53] <sethk> iammisc, do    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:53] <iammisc> sethk: iam talking about running ubuntu from the livecd
[04:53] <nrdb> fivre: I presume it is doing an internal clock double then, correct ?
[04:54] <sethk> iammisc, then yes, it isn't on the set of packages to install.  so you install it, which takes about two minutes.
[04:54] <rabautz> nrdb: cpuinfo shows the current speed. So it may be "clocked down" at the moment .. Mine shows 600 and is a 1700Intel..
[04:54] <fivre> nrdb: No, AMD just labels their processors with that messed-up scheme to better compete with intel
[04:55] <sethk> fivre, as you said before, that's called "lying"  :)
[04:55] <fivre> nrdb: intelp processors perform more cycles per second but less work per cycle
[04:55] <AsheD> how do I view [if any]  active partitions on a drive?
[04:55] <uberspaced> Ash_Fox, fdisk -l
[04:56] <uberspaced> (as root)
[04:56] <AsheD> gotcha :P
[04:56] <SuperMigue1> my apache server is on port 80 and my media server is on port 8888 there is any way to switch it around
[04:56] <antoni> anybody know if edgy (next ver) will support wpa natively in the network manager? if so, when?
[04:56] <sethk> SuperMigue1, it's possible to use different ports with apache, if that's what you are asking.
[04:56] <uberspaced> Ash_Fox, i'm always forgetting what partitions I have, and I never load them into fstab because my comps stay on for like more than 1 month etc
[04:57] <rabautz> SuperMigue1: /etc/apache2/ports.conf thats for apache .. What is a media-server?
[04:57] <rbil> usberspaced: what does staying on have to do with anything in terms of fstab?
[04:57] <slavik> guess who's back. back again. slavik's back, tell a friend.
[04:57] <nrdb> fivre: sh ok! I was wondering if I needed to do something to the BIOS to make the MHz 2800, it doesn't appear so now.
[04:57] <baxter_kylie> anyone have any idea where defaults for applications are stored? (I want to change my default web browser). Thanks. :)
[04:58] <strabes> rbil: he probably mounts them manually when he turns on his comp since it stays on for so long
[04:58] <rbil> oh
[04:58] <rbil> duh
[04:58] <strabes> uberspaced: you probably should just mount them with fstab it would be easier i guess
[04:58] <AsheD> I have a drive, currently unable to do anything to it as it says it is read-only, anybody know why?
[04:58] <strabes> haha yeah lol
[04:58] <strabes> ashed: check the permissions of it?
[04:59] <AsheD> yep, can't change them
[04:59] <uberspaced> AsheD, man mount, look for remount
[04:59] <uberspaced> strabes, yeah, but the amount of time it takes for the computer to boot (in order for me to check if the partition is correctly mounted on boot) offsets that
[05:00] <jojoman02> !flash
[05:00] <SuperMigue1> rabautz like gnump3d
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[05:00] <uberspaced> with using fdisk -l, i figure it will only be a waste of time after about a year or so of doing it.
[05:00] <jojoman02> !flash9
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[05:00] <strabes> uberspaced: there's a command that will re-mount fstab without rebooting let me find it
[05:00] <rabautz> SuperMigue1: /etc/gnump3d/CONFIGFILE - you can change the port there.
[05:00] <uberspaced> nuts.  i'm backed into a corner :)
[05:00] <rbil> uberspaced: still not following you? sudo mount -a will remount everything in fstab
[05:01] <sethk> uberspaced, you can put it in fstab with noauto and it won't mount until you tell it to
[05:01] <uberspaced> rbil, grr.  have you ever booted into something that decided to mount your root file system as read only?
[05:01] <rbil> nope
[05:01] <uberspaced> and you're like "Damn.  I wish i could edit this here file..."
[05:01] <strabes> uberspaced: yeah i guess you have no choice but to make your fstab  :)  this is from ubuntuguide.org: sudo mount -a
[05:01] <strabes> yeah what rbil said
[05:01] <strabes> that will do it for you
[05:02] <uberspaced> yeah, yeah...
[05:02] <pudland> hello, booting ubuntu from usb drive issues please help. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27292/
[05:02] <SuperMigue1> rabautz: yea but when i change it i cant see the pages :S
[05:02] <strabes> glad i could help
[05:02] <strabes> ubuntuguide.org is great for that kinda stuff
[05:04] <rabautz> SuperMigue1: Hmm... You have to restart gnump3d.. - sry don't know if i really understand the problem..
[05:04] <AsheD> still not quite getting it, it won't let me do anything to it
[05:04] <sethk> SuperMigue1, you have to tell the client, also, to use different ports, if you don't want to use standard ports.
[05:04] <AsheD> I can't change permissions, can't repartition the drive, etc
[05:04] <strabes> ashed: format your entire harddrive :)
[05:04] <pluto> sethk: Forgive me, but this is my 1st time networking a computer.  What am I to put in the server field?
[05:04] <sethk> AsheD, are you root (or using sudo)?
[05:05] <AsheD> I tried both
[05:05] <AsheD> same effect
[05:05] <sethk> pluto, for what, for bootp?
[05:05] <sethk> AsheD, well, they had better both do the same thing.
[05:05] <pluto> sethk: yes, to access the XP maching.
[05:05] <rbil> pluto: the ip address of your windoze box
[05:05] <sethk> AsheD, what kind of file system is this?
[05:05] <sethk> pluto, whatever the ip is of your windows box.  you can bring up a cmd window and run the ipconfig command (in windows) to find its IP
[05:05] <pluto> rbil: how do I find that  -- I know it's not on the outside of the box!  :)
[05:05] <AsheD> atm it should be in ext3, but I am not entirely sure
[05:06] <unforgiving> what is the package bfd ?
[05:06] <rbil> cmd prompt in Windows ... ipconfig
[05:06] <sethk> AsheD, if you run the mount command (by itself, no arguments), does it say "ro"   or "rw" for this partition?
[05:06] <AsheD> sethk:: it says rw
[05:06] <uberspaced> OK.  i added the partition to my fstab.  are you happy now :P
[05:06] <pluto> rbil: Doesn't IP stand for internet protocall?
[05:06] <sethk> AsheD, ok, then it isn't a mount issue.
[05:06] <uberspaced> (thanks for the mount -a thing)
[05:06] <sethk> AsheD, it's some sort of permissions issue.
[05:07] <rbil> pluto: yep but that's the command in windows to find out the ip addy assigned to that box
[05:07] <strabes> uberspaced: nice one. no problem
[05:07] <SuperMigue1> any nice tool that i can put on my server :A
[05:07] <pluto> rbil: is that IP address static?
[05:07] <AsheD> sethk:: it shows as being owned by root atm, but I can't chown it, can't fdisk, etc
[05:07] <rbil> pluto: depends how you have setup Windoze. it can be dynamic
[05:07] <rbil> do you obtain it from dhcp or have you set it up as static?
[05:08] <tgelter> hey all - if I can only boot into a busybox console because dmraid fails on me, what can I do?
[05:08] <SuperMigue1> dhcp :P
[05:08] <AsheD> err, 2.0.0beta4, excuse me
[05:08] <pluto> rbil: HOw can I tell if I obtain it from dhcp?
[05:08] <rbil> or u can use the hostname of your windoze box
[05:08] <SuperMigue1> pluto: do ypu have a router in your house?
[05:08] <wabbit> hi all I've just compiled and installed the latest alsa drivers on dapper. But cat /proc/asound/version continues to display the alsa version installed using apt-get. Is there someway I could replace the old alsa driver with the custom compile one?? Is there a howto or documentation in this regard??
[05:08] <pluto> SuperMigue1: Yes.
[05:08] <rbil> pluto: if you don't know you probably do
[05:09] <danilo_> como fasso pra escrever numa partio  fat 32
[05:09] <rbil> pluto: unless someone else setup that windoze box for you
[05:09] <slavik> ok ... I am back
[05:09] <pluto> rbil: No. I set it up out of the box.  so it must be a static IP address, right?
[05:09] <sethk> wabbit, use the --prefix flag on configure
[05:09] <lostatc> I was wondering if I gave someone my IP address and I have Apache2 server installed from synaptic will they be able to be served pages?
[05:10] <sethk> wabbit, start from scratch, because configure is step 1 of building from source.
[05:10] <rbil> pluto, no not static if outta the box ... more than likely using dhcp to obtain ip addy
[05:10] <SuperMigue1> pluto: actually if you go system, administration networking a properties on your wire connection
[05:10] <SuperMigue1> pluto: it will tell you if you have an static or dchp
[05:10] <wabbit> sethk: what should be the value of --prefix
[05:10] <sethk> lostatc, of course, that's what apache does
[05:10] <wabbit> I'm looking myself
[05:10] <SuperMigue1> if it is out of the box it is not static
[05:10] <sethk> wabbit, ordinarily /usr (the default is /usr/local)
[05:10] <danilo_> brasil server
[05:10] <whyso> hi, if i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu should i wait until edgy comes out, or should i just rinstall now?
[05:10] <wabbit> ok
[05:10] <rabautz> lostatc: Perhaps, if there is no router between you and the internet and the firewall has an open port for your apache ..
[05:10] <eternalswd> Is it possible to start a new xserver to run on tv-out (ati x300), so I don't have to restart x and close all of the stuff I'm currently working on?
[05:11] <lostatc> well I usually just used as a local 127.0.0.1 to look at what i am doing
[05:11] <frecklez> !mp3
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[05:11] <sethk> SuperMigue1, depends on what type of installation you chose and what networking configuration you chose.
[05:11] <danilo_> link irc br  brasil
[05:11] <SuperMigue1> sethk: the default instalation is dhcp
[05:11] <crazypigeon> hello
[05:11] <sethk> lostatc, just tell apache to listen for connections from any machine.
[05:11] <lostatc> okay
[05:11] <sethk> SuperMigue1, it depends on which type of installation you choose and what options you specify
[05:12] <crazypigeon> does anyone here know anything about compiz here?
[05:12] <SuperMigue1> sethk: the default one comes dhcp
[05:12] <eternalswd> or is there a way to restart x while retaining my current programs?
[05:12] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: sudo reboot xD
[05:12] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: ups i didnt read
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd:  you mean keeoing your currently running X programs going? No..
[05:13] <pluto> rbil: what do I put in the share field?
[05:13] <Xenguy> eternalswd: this won't retain your programs, but -- Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc
[05:13] <crazypigeon> control + alt + backspace will set you free
[05:13] <crazypigeon> :)
[05:13] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, If I had been a noob that would have been very cruel :p
[05:13] <sethk> SuperMigue1, there is no default one.  there are several types of installations.  it's true that the most recent version doesn't have all the types on the same cd, but that changes nothing.
[05:13] <rbil> pluto: whatever sharename you assigned to the share in Windoze
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: i didnt read im sorry
[05:13] <rbil> pluto: but it shouldn't be necessary
[05:14] <rbil> pluto: just put in a User Name that Windows knows about
[05:14] <crazypigeon> does anyone here know about compiz
[05:14] <pluto> rbil: anything eles that I must enter?
[05:14] <crazypigeon> or an irc channel somewhere
[05:14] <rbil> service type: windows share
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> sethk: but in order to make it static you have to set it up ons the inslation which there is no easy way to get to it
[05:14] <danilo_> alque do brasil
[05:14] <rbil> server: ip addy of windows box
[05:14] <rabautz> crazypigeon: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:14] <rbil> user name: use the name of windows user
[05:14] <crazypigeon> :) thanks
[05:14] <rbil> click connect and see what happens
[05:15] <SuperMigue1> pluto what are you tring to do?
[05:15] <eternalswd> so how about my other option?  is it possible to start a seperate xserver (separate process that would read my current xorg.conf) to run specifically on tv-out?
[05:15] <rbil> should get you an smb icon on desktop that if you doubleclick will open that share
[05:15] <unforgiving> [danilo_] : diga
[05:15] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: yes sir
[05:15] <pluto> SuperMigue1: Just transfer a file between the 2 computers to say I networked a computer  :)
[05:15] <AsheD> eh, I need a compiler to 'make' a program, right?
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: you can install a vmware server and install ubuntu again :)
[05:16] <greg__> bye
[05:16] <greg__> bye
[05:16] <kjm> AsheD - you need a text editor to make a program - you need a compiler to compile it.
[05:16] <greg__> exit
[05:16] <bimberi> AsheD: frequently, but not always
[05:16] <Homer> greg___: /quit
[05:16] <Staz> hi, how can I change file associations in ubuntu? (using gnome)
[05:16] <Xenguy> pluto: scp is the usual way (requires ssh)
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> pluto: windows and linux?
[05:16] <AsheD> which one should I get?
[05:16] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, ugh, guess I'll just wait until I'm done with what I'm doing.
[05:16] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[05:16] <MikeyMike> what is the ubuntu equivalent to updatedb ?
[05:16] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:17] <puff> Evening, I upgraded from hoary to breezy to dapper last week, now youtube videos have no sound.  What' sup?
[05:17] <kjm> AsheD - which compiler?  gcc of course.
[05:17] <rabautz> MikeyMike: updatedb
[05:17] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: what are you tring to do?
[05:17] <MikeyMike> rabautz,  haha does that work
[05:17] <bimberi> AsheD: install the build-essential package
[05:17] <Staz> bimberi : thanks mate.
[05:17] <sethk> AsheD, install the gnu compiler suite, which gives you c, c++, java, objective c (which nobody uses any more) and, for the masochistic, ada
[05:17] <crimsun> puff: use aoss to wrap your Web browser
[05:17] <bimberi> Staz: np :)
[05:17] <Homer> !gcc
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:17] <kjm> puff : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[05:17] <SuperMigue1> !!build
[05:17] <Xenguy> RMS built gcc
[05:18] <AsheD> sethk:: what is that one called?
[05:18] <rabautz> MikeyMike: apt-get install findutils?
[05:18] <Homer> rms made first version
[05:18] <MikeyMike> rabautz,  ah it worked
[05:18] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, well I've got some downloads running right now, and was hoping I could set up tv-out while waiting and watch a movie.
[05:18] <Homer> now gcc is developed by dozens of devs
[05:18] <bsdfox> hi, anyone know if v4l2 supports audio capture on a bt878 card?
[05:18] <sethk> AsheD, I'm not sure of the package name, I'll check.
[05:18] <Xenguy> Homer: of course, the point is that RMS started up the whole shit
[05:18] <Homer> yeah he did
[05:19] <def6> Can anyone help me get dist-upgrade to work again after having lost my sys clock?.. Using the update manager, it tells me it can't install ubuntu-desktop(which isn't installed for some reason).
[05:19] <uberspaced> sethk, tell AsheD how to check :)
[05:19] <slavik> I read the micro kernel vs. monolithic kernel debate the other day ...
[05:19] <Homer> gnu hurd is micro kernal
[05:19] <xuser> Where does mplayer reads the codecs in ubuntu?
[05:19] <Xenguy> def6: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[05:19] <White_Castle> hi, can someone tell me how to view my computer specs with ubuntu?
[05:20] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: with VMware you can install another operating system like linux windows, over your actuall installation, it just will require like 4GB of your hard drive it will make a folder for it, it is prety good :)
[05:20] <def6> will check, xenguy.. but it fails, though not the same way.
[05:20] <Xenguy> def6: try repeating
[05:20] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, is it in the repository?
[05:20] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: the player is
[05:21] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: with the server you can make your own configurations, but with vmware player you can install an os
[05:21] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, ok, I'll give it a try
[05:21] <pluto> rbil: what is a residentail gateway?
[05:22] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: what is your RAM memory?
[05:22] <rbil> pluto, your router
[05:22] <sethk> pluto, a low capacity router.
[05:22] <eternalswd> SuperMiguel, 1GB
[05:22] <White_Castle> can someone tell me how to view my ram with ubuntu?
[05:22] <sethk> pluto, I'm building a broadband wireless RG at the moment at work.
[05:22] <SuperMigue1> eternalswd: it will run fast :)
[05:22] <pluto> rbil: That's what I thougt, but was not sure.
[05:22] <sethk> White_Castle, top, and/or  cat /proc/meminfo
[05:22] <uberspaced> White_Castle, cat /proc/meminfo
[05:22] <def6> xenguy: so far so good, oddly enough.. i've tried this before, but it seems to be replacing packages..
[05:22] <def6> alright.
[05:22] <White_Castle> thanks :)
[05:22] <def6> it finished.
[05:22] <uberspaced> free -m also
[05:22] <kjm> WhiteCastle : You can use the system monitor.....
[05:22] <pluto> sethk: what is a rg?
[05:22] <Xenguy> def6: yay
[05:23] <def6> hopefully yay
[05:23] <def6> :D
[05:23] <sethk> pluto, residential gateway, what you just asked about
[05:23] <SuperMigue1> Right guy xD
[05:23] <def6> for god's sake, i swear i did that 235432 times
[05:23] <puff> Hm, still no sound.
[05:23] <pluto> sethk: cool.
[05:23] <jek> anybody know what the difference is between ro quiet splash and ro single in the grub menu?
[05:23] <puff> I installed alsa-oss and edited /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to add FIREFOX_DSP="aoss", but no sound in my youtube.
[05:23] <Xenguy> def6: I've found the need to repeat on many occasions that's all :-)
[05:24] <SuperMigue1> any free graphical web page maker like dreamweaver?
[05:24] <kjm> Puff - did you look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022  ?
[05:24] <AsheD> "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" :(
[05:24] <def6> xenguy: interesting.
[05:24] <rbil> puff, isn't youtube flash?
[05:24] <def6> glad it worked this time.. thanks bud.
[05:24] <uberspaced> SuperMigue1, mozilla has an html editor that is better than using FrontPage
[05:24] <kjm> SuperMiguel = have you checked out NVU?
[05:24] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: nvu  ?
[05:24] <Homer> !nvu
[05:24] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[05:24] <puff> rbil: AFAIK, yes.
[05:25] <puff> kjm: Yes.
[05:25] <menko> Hi, there are a few env. variables which I don't want apps I run with sudo to carry, how can I do this? I tried adding env_reset to the defaults line in sudoers, but that doesn't seem to do it. (I tried sudo echo $XMODIFIERS and the content still came up)
[05:25] <pluto> rbil: If I want this to work, I must turn on file & print sharing in XP, right?
[05:25] <rbil> puff, got flash installed
[05:25] <rbil> pluto, yes
[05:25] <kjm> Did you hear flash 7 beta is out?  (couldn't resist with the set topic....)
[05:25] <rbil> pluto, then create a share in windoze
[05:25] <puff> rbil: Was that a question? If so, yes.
[05:25] <slavik> kjm: flash 9 is what you mean ;)
[05:26] <def6> xenguy: thanks so much.  i've been beating my head into the wall for the past few days over this.
[05:26] <jek> anybody knwo what the difference between /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[05:26] <Homer> !flash9b
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash9b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Homer> not in repo yet?
[05:26] <Xenguy> def6: heh, great, yw
[05:26] <SuperMigue1> nvu use html?
[05:26] <SuperMigue1> do you actually need to write html?
[05:26] <Homer> it generate html
[05:26] <kjm> oops : yes - flash 9...  Way to try to make a joke and have it blow up in my face.
[05:26] <rbil> puff, did you connect to a windoze share?
[05:26] <Homer> it wyswig
[05:26] <poningru> yeah teh lame
[05:26] <poningru> VI ftw
[05:26] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: gives access to WYSIWYG and code
[05:27] <Homer> quantra is good if u don't want wysiwyg
[05:27] <phantom_> hello all!
[05:27] <Homer> hi
[05:27] <utopia> diff the kernel :)
[05:27] <rbil> puff, oops sorry, that wasn't for you :-)
[05:27] <frecklez> !dvd
[05:27] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:27] <SuperMigue1> umm there is any way to set up vnc for xubuntu using ssh?
[05:28] <Homer> !vnc
[05:28] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[05:28] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: x11vnc  ?
[05:28] <rbil> I can't look at this type anymore. bye people.
[05:28] <Homer> bye
[05:28] <puff> Ah, it was /tmp/.esd/socket that was the problem.
[05:28] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: also check out freenx
[05:28] <Homer> !freenx
[05:28] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:29] <SuperMigue1> a mean i want to use vnc over my server but im far, i just have an putty client
[05:29] <menko> Hi, how do I stop sudo from inheriting environment variables?
[05:29] <SuperMigue1> can i install and use it from here?
[05:29] <Homer> menko: sudo bash
[05:29] <Homer> SuperMigue1: sudo apt-get install freenx
[05:29] <menko> Homer: I want every app which I run with sudo/gksudo to not inherit certain env variables (I don't want multiple scim instances)
[05:30] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: if you have putty, use a command-line; if you want GUI, use Freenx
[05:30] <Homer> hmm not sure then
[05:30] <crimsun> puff: what specifically with /tmp/.esd/socket ?
[05:30] <SuperMigue1> how do i use freenx from windows
[05:30] <SuperMigue1> how cna i connect to that server?
[05:31] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: download the wind0ze freenx client
[05:32] <SuperMigue1> there is no freenx
[05:32] <SuperMigue1>  sudo apt-get install freenx
[05:32] <SuperMigue1> couldn't find it
[05:32] <def6> While I'm here, should I even be bothering with Firestarter, or should I roll my own firewall?  I notice that many of the rules I set in firestarter still seem to bring up warnings.  eg; suaerbraten and port 28786... No matter how many times I confiure a rule for that port, firestarter bitches about it.
[05:32] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: yeah, sorry, there is a particular place to get the deb's from
[05:32] <lampshade> YAY FLASH PLAYER IS OUT  (BETA) WHOOOO!
[05:32] <Xenguy> !freenx
[05:32] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:32] <lampshade> totally worked for me
[05:32] <lampshade> perfectly
[05:32] <lampshade> no sound lag
[05:32] <lampshade> bam
[05:32] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: see that URL
[05:33] <lampshade> and firefox doesn't crash on me randomly when I close tabs with flash stuff playing now
[05:33] <lampshade> I'm excited
[05:33] <tritium> !enter > lampshade
[05:33] <def6> flash 9 beta has been working flawlessly for me..
[05:34] <Healot> Honey Flash
[05:34] <Healot> now I can view my telco site properly
[05:35] <SuperMigue1> where is the source list?
[05:35] <pluto> SuperMigue1: Does turning on file & print share in XP put me at risk?
[05:35] <SuperMigue1> ../etc/var/source.lits
[05:35] <SuperMigue1> pluto: no :)
[05:36] <SuperMigue1> unless you are super rich
[05:36] <def6> god forbid some hacker printed money remotely on your printer
[05:36] <pluto> SuperMigue1: WEll I guess I don't have to worry then!   :)
[05:36] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ dapper-seveas freenx
[05:36] <pluto> def6: I'll leave it on and see what happens!!  :)
[05:36] <mulder_> are we at 6.10 ?
[05:36] <hutchGuy> def6: s/hacker/cracker please!
[05:36] <def6> lmao, pluto
[05:36] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: when I last checked anyhow
[05:37] <SuperMigue1> um?
[05:37] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ dapper-seveas freenx
[05:38] <bimberi> mulder_: no, soon, Oct 26 is the target date
[05:38] <def6> is anyone actually testing the new flash player?
[05:38] <SuperMigue1> ok it is installed
[05:38] <mulder_> bimberi, alright. thanks.
[05:38] <SuperMigue1> how can i configure my server?
[05:38] <def6> i mean, being a part of the community, shouldn't we be trying to break it?
[05:38] <technel> I am trying to convert from a very old "wv" file to mp3. I am using pacpl, but it returns this: "There was an error loading: MP4::Info. Install the module or set USETAGS to 0 in conf file." Any idea what MP4::Info is?
[05:38] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: you probably want to read some documentation :p
[05:39] <SuperMigue1> im blind :P
[05:39] <axel> omg ubuntu is alive....
[05:39] <def6> what did supermigue1 say?
[05:39] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: pity ;-)
[05:39] <def6> i can't read my braille screen
[05:39] <def6> when will ubuntu support braille?
[05:40] <axel> lol
[05:40] <def6> bastards
[05:40] <Atomiku> lol
[05:40] <SuperMigue1> pity
[05:40] <SuperMigue1> ?
[05:40] <slavik> how do I switch the default audio card?
[05:40] <tritium> def6: calm down
[05:40] <def6> sorry, my braille screen works quite well, i was merely being silly..
[05:40] <def6> which i think should be allowed
[05:41] <bimberi> def6: it was hard to tell :)
[05:41] <def6> lmao
[05:41] <axel> dam ECS dnot support video in linux
[05:42] <SuperMigue1> does xubuntu uses xdm?
[05:42] <axel> anyone knows a sis761gx driver?
[05:42] <h36sa_> hi, I can watch TV on my computer but I am having trouble recording it and want to record something in 20 minutes :P http://pastebin.ca/209347
[05:42] <Healot> SuperMigue1: yes xdm
[05:43] <axel> many people here
[05:44] <bimberi> SuperMigue1: the xubuntu-desktop package has gdm as a dependency
[05:44] <Mad3Max1> ok.. I have a question about packages.. I want to install lcdproc. but in synapse it's an old version of it. 0.4.5 and the current is 0.5.1.. when I look here it exists.. how do I get synapse to get it.. http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/utils/lcdproc
[05:44] <AsheD> is 'making' a program supposed to display all the code in the terminal?
[05:44] <bimberi> SuperMigue1: but you can install and use xdm if you wish
[05:44] <Xenguy> Mad3Max1: try apt-get instead   ?
[05:45] <Xenguy> Mad3Max1: er, sudo yada yada
[05:45] <bimberi> Mad3Max1: upgrade to edgy, which is currently in beta, but will be released soon
[05:45] <SuperMigue1> when i try to login to my nx server its says session startup failed :S
[05:45] <Mad3Max1> Xenguy.. apt-get only has the old version aswell.. maybe my sources that are wrong
[05:45] <axel> sudo give me a coffe....
[05:45] <Xenguy> Mad3Max1: dunno then
[05:46] <Xenguy> bimberi: bad advice to 'upgrade' to unstable
[05:46] <axel> this isnt work
[05:46] <bimberi> Xenguy: yes, bad wording
[05:46] <DaveyJ> whenever i open up my home folder it says "stalled" on the bottom and looks like its continually loading, then eventually stops and its blank
[05:46] <DaveyJ> kubuntu btw
[05:46] <Xenguy> axel: what do you want to do?
[05:46] <bthornton> I just bought a new 2GB USB flash drive; is it possible to burn my Ubuntu ISO to it and boot off of it as a LiveCD?
[05:46] <bimberi> Xenguy: but qualified in the answer
[05:46] <axel> find a sis761gx driver
[05:47] <Xenguy> bimberi: I just blew it a kiss :-)
[05:47] <bimberi> lol
[05:47] <axel> only guindows drivers i found
[05:47] <Xenguy> axel: ahh
[05:48] <axel> no gl in ubuntu
[05:48] <axel> in this comp i have compiz and xgl but in other i have the sis drivers problem
[05:49] <ph4t_ph4nt0m> heya.  it seems i'm having a bit of trouble keeping connected to Freenode
[05:50] <utopia> try a different server
[05:50] <utopia> http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
[05:51] <SuperMigue1>  when i try to login to my nx server its says session startup failed :S
[05:52] <axel> is so sad ... i not remember how to develop a driver, the last time i develop was in a commodore 64
[05:52] <eternalswd> I'm trying to get vmware player working.  When I install it fails to start vmnet when installing
[05:53] <SuperMigue1> any nx client for windows?
[05:53] <utopia> yep google
[05:54] <bitviper> can anyone tell me how to install xvid in edgy?
[05:54] <Borat> sudo apt-get install xvid
[05:54] <Borat> jk
[05:54] <axel> lol
[05:54] <Borat> i wish things where that easy
[05:54] <tritium> Borat: they often are
[05:54] <bitviper> do I have to compile it?
[05:54] <utopia> here is the freenx client: http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[05:54] <Borat> tritium; yea really
[05:55] <tritium> Borat: honestly
[05:55] <SuperMigue1> utopia that does not work with my server :S
[05:56] <marcrosoft> anyone know why dbus/hal does not initialize on boot but will load when running /etc/init.d/dbus
[05:56] <Healot> bitviper: you need the libxine-extracodecs package; hint enable your multiverse section; dapper repos
[05:56] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, did you upgrade your kernel
[05:56] <Healot> edgy :)
[05:56] <bitviper> thanks Healot, I'll try that out
[05:57] <Healot> repos: edgy>>
[05:57] <bitviper> I do have multiverse open.  Should I really enable dapper repos in edgy?  Wont that mess it up?
[05:57] <tritium> bitviper: edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:58] <bitviper> woops
[05:58] <bitviper> k
[05:58] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, no do I need to?
[05:58] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, no.... but thats why vmnet failed for me
[05:59] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, do you have the kernel that it says it uses in synaptic?
[05:59] <nrdb> is there a simple program I could use to test a HDD ?
[05:59] <tical0420> i need help with wireless
[05:59] <SuperMigue1> any nx client?
[06:00] <utopia> here is the freenx client: http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[06:00] <_azrael> For some reason, only OSS works on my system. What should I check to figure out why ALSA's not working.
[06:00] <Borat> nrdb, cfdisk>
[06:00] <Borat> ?
[06:00] <tical0420> my wireless lan works fine with .26 kernal but not with .27
[06:00] <tritium> !sound
[06:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:01] <crimsun> _azrael: more detail would be nice.
[06:02] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, yes, as far as I can tell.  2.6.15-26.47 is my kernel version and 2.6.15.10-10 is the vmware module version
[06:02] <GatoLoko> hi
[06:02] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, thats your problem
[06:02] <_azrael> crimsun: After installing the new flash 9, I noticed no sound. I heard that only alsa was supported, so I decided to double check my alsa was working by doing mplayer -ao alsa foo.mp3, which hangs. From this I'm concluding that alsa for some reason isn't working, and that I've been using OSS only for a while without noticing.
[06:02] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, they have to match exactly... or it doesn't work
[06:02] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, i had to build my module by hand
[06:03] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, any tips on how to do that?
[06:03] <crimsun> _azrael: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[06:03] <hockyhair> hello, what is the easiest way to burn a .dmg image in ubuntu
[06:03] <_azrael> azrael@mobileDemon ~ $ lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*rnCOMMAND     PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAMErnfirefox-b 29829 azrael  mem    CHR 116,22      9444 /dev/snd/pcmC0D6prnfirefox-b 29829 azrael   48u   CHR 116,22      9444 /dev/snd/pcmC0D6p
[06:04] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, just download the source and build the moudles using make...
[06:04] <hockyhair> !dmg
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <marcrosoft> then copy them to....
[06:05] <crimsun> _azrael: ls /tmp/alsa*dmix*
[06:05] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, i cant remember where modules go..  if you want me to look i can
[06:05] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, then you need to do a depmod -a or something like that to load the modules
[06:06] <enyawix> question
[06:06] <enyawix> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[06:06] <enyawix> md5sun
[06:06] <enyawix> ?
[06:06] <_azrael> crimsun: azrael@mobileDemon ~ $ ls /tmp/alsa*dmix*rnls: /tmp/alsa*dmix*: No such file or directoryrnazrael@mobileDemon ~ $
[06:07] <Madpilot> enyawix, the md5sum file will be in the same place you got the ISO itself from
[06:07] <crimsun> _azrael: are you watching/listening to a flash applet atm?
[06:07] <Staz> hi, which ubuntu repository contains the absolute lates mplayer? I'm after pre8
[06:07] <enyawix> the server had no sum :(
[06:08] <enyawix> i get d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
[06:08] <Staz> latest*
[06:08] <SuperMigue1> Xfce = kde?
[06:08] <_azrael> crimsun: yes.
[06:08] <enyawix> yes?
[06:08] <enyawix> what
[06:09] <enyawix> yes i have good file?
[06:09] <crimsun> _azrael: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[06:09] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, hope that helps
[06:09] <Borat> xfce=kde are you on crack?
[06:09] <SuperMigue1> :P
[06:09] <SuperMigue1> whe you use nx
[06:09] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, thanks, I'll figure it out
[06:09] <_azrael> Crimsun: Mixers:rn0: SigmaTel STAC9200
[06:10] <_azrael> crimsun: (that's my modem it's identifying)
[06:10] <crimsun> _azrael: known issue with that mixer. I've already sent the appropriate patches to our kernel lead, and hopefully they'll be available in a new kernel soon.
[06:10] <SuperMigue1> when you use nx it just says, gnome,kde,cde, xdm and custum
[06:10] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, it took me a long time to figure it out.. and nobody here seem to help that much.. so i thought i would pass the info... :)
[06:10] <SuperMigue1> which one should i pick f i use Xfce
[06:10] <crimsun> _azrael: in the meantime, pastebin ``amixer''
[06:11] <wrabbit^> SuperMigue1: if you want xfce, you'll need to apt-get install xfce4
[06:11] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, do you know where I might download the module sources?
[06:11] <enyawix> k i have bad down load :(
[06:11] <SuperMigue1> ^^ :S
[06:11] <Xenguy> SuperMigue1: choose the most different option from the default ;-)
[06:12] <SuperMigue1> i have it already but i want to remote in to it, but my options are just gnome,kde,cde, xdm and custom
[06:12] <levander> #ubuntu was created in 2001?  that's like 3 years before it became a distribution
[06:12] <_azrael> crimsun: http://131.215.155.121/~azrael/amixerout
[06:12] <levander> Anyone has seen a good article on how to change out your video card?  I know the hardware part, don't know about the software under Ubuntu.
[06:13] <Xenguy> levander: ubu should just pick it up
[06:13] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, only place is their website
[06:13] <mabreaux> does any one know how to import eudora files into evolution?
[06:13] <marcrosoft> eternalswd, download the tar.gz
[06:14] <levander> Xenguy: but I'll need a different X server, currently I'm running a Matrox G400, I need to switch X servers to a nVidia 6200
[06:14] <crimsun> _azrael: does increasing your 'PCM' level help?
[06:14] <eternalswd> marcrosoft, okay, thanks
[06:14] <Xenguy> levander: oh my
[06:14] <talisein> levander: Install the new card, turn on. X will probably fail and give you a console login. Login, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <levander> Xenguy: that's sarcasm?
[06:14] <Xenguy> levander: I had no idea
[06:14] <talisein> levander: it should be able to detect the new card
[06:14] <levander> f* you Xenguy!!!!
[06:14] <levander> talisein: thanks
[06:15] <Xenguy> levander: no, although I understand your question :-)
[06:15] <ringard> what does ubuntu do with multi cpu systems? would it spread cpu usage across the cpus?
[06:15] <Lam_> !schedule > me
[06:15] <talisein> ringard: yes
[06:16] <Lam_> !schedule > Lam_
[06:16] <levander> ringard: the OS will assign one application to one processor, then the next application to the next processor
[06:16] <ringard> talisein: do i have to configure something to make that happen?
[06:16] <enyawix> dl is too BIG
[06:16] <talisein> ringard: no, modern kernels detect that sort of environment and act accordingly
[06:16] <ringard> levander: same question ^^^
[06:16] <levander> ringard: it won't speed up single application performance, unless the application is written with "threads", which most desktop applications aren't
[06:16] <enyawix> why not a basic install that dselect the rest
[06:16] <ringard> this is for a server
[06:17] <levander> talisein: I'm pretty sure he has to install an SMP kernel package
[06:17] <ringard> talisein: that is wonderful news
[06:17] <levander> talisein: i know i did
[06:17] <siXy> all applications "are written with threads". some applications support smp.
[06:17] <talisein> levander: whatever kernel Dapper is on doesn't need to be reinstalled
[06:17] <levander> talisein: cool, didn't know that
[06:17] <_azrael> crimsun: Does not help.
[06:18] <_azrael> crimsun: This is not quiet sound, this is no sound. Additionally, mplayer in the past has been very valid at detecting whether sound systems are present and working.
[06:18] <levander> siXy: well, all applications aren't multi-threaded, which is what they need to take advantage of SMP
[06:18] <talisein> levander: kernel devs realized it was annoying for distros to have to ship 2 different versions, so they made it reconfigure itself at boot time
[06:18] <ringard> just to clearify, i don't need a smp package for dapper?
[06:18] <_azrael> crimsun: (mplayer -ao alsa hung if you missed me saying that)
[06:18] <siXy> if you are using multiple cpus (logical or physical) you should already be using an smp kernel. type uname -r to find out
[06:18] <marik> Hiya ubuntu channel people. I need a little bit of advice on what iso to use for my intel mac
[06:18] <levander> siXy: although you could argue all applications have a single thread
[06:18] <levander> talisein: that is nice that they did that
[06:18] <talisein> ringard: correct. There is still a -smp package, but its just a dummy package that points at the normal one
[06:19] <siXy> levander: not if you know anythin about software development you couldnt.
[06:19] <crimsun> _azrael: it's not a matter of it hanging. Like I said, I know about the issue. I've patched it. The fixes are ready but haven't been released in a Ubuntu kernel yet.
[06:19] <pluto> what does ping do?
[06:19] <ringard> ty very much for the info everyone!!
[06:19] <Borat> pluto, ping is your latency time
[06:19] <enyawix> tried debian etch
[06:19] <levander> siXy: all applications do have at least a  single thread
[06:19] <talisein> pluto: sends a small packet across the network to a destination, which might be configured to respond to pings. If it does, it can let you know what the network latency is
[06:19] <enyawix> it is painfull
[06:19] <_azrael> crimsun: Is the patch available somewhere so I could apply it to kernel source and recompile myself?
[06:20] <crimsun> _azrael: depends if you want the easy way or the hard way. Do you use your own kernel?
[06:20] <siXy> they all make use of at least a single thread. correct. they dont not have just one thread. nor do only some applications use threads.
[06:20] <_azrael> crimsun: At the moment, no. However, I migrated to ubuntu from gentoo, so I have a good deal of experience compiling kernels :P
[06:20] <marik> Am I going to get any help on what iso image to use for my intel mac, sorry to interupt
[06:21] <pluto> talisein: if I transfer a file from my ubuntu to XP with samba, does it transfer the file outside of the house?
[06:21] <talisein> marik: if its an intel mac, use the x86 image
[06:21] <enyawix> intel mac?
[06:21] <crimsun> _azrael: then just grab alsa-kernel hg or jaroslav's git tree, and compile one.
[06:21] <def6> marik: what do you mean?
[06:21] <siXy> marik: patience is a virtue.
[06:21] <enyawix> what arch is that?
[06:21] <_azrael> OK
[06:21] <def6> marik: are you burning an installation disc?
[06:21] <marik> I'm using a intel dual core iMac and I want to intall ubuntu
[06:21] <marik> I plan on burning my own disc
[06:21] <def6> and?
[06:21] <talisein> pluto: are you on a wired or wireless connection?
[06:21] <h36sa_> anyone had luck with tv-in using a bt848/878 and v4l2?
[06:21] <marik> I'd like to know what image to use before I waste a disc on burning.
[06:22] <def6> the iso file you have should set the options itself.
[06:22] <def6> i mean, you do have an iso, no?
[06:22] <talisein> def6: there are x86 isos and PPC isos.
[06:22] <def6> i realize that
[06:22] <bimberi> marik: i386 iso
[06:22] <marik> Yes, I am getting the x86 iso, which I believe is the one I will be needing
[06:22] <pluto> talisein: I'm on a wired connection.
[06:23] <marik> Thank you muchly, hope to help in the future once I learn more
[06:24] <talisein> pluto: okay. Are both computers behind a router/firewall? If so, then the samba server's files are probably only accessable from within your wired network. That sort of depends on how good your firewall is though ;)
[06:24] <scott> on a ubuntu server we're having troubles with the clock going wrong. It seems like even a few hours after I set it  with ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com it is off again. It's a long ways away so I can't really check the hardware..any ideas?
[06:25] <talisein> scott: there is a file in /etc where ntp trys to automatically correct for a fast clock.. hold on :)
[06:25] <pluto> talisein: Thansk.
[06:26] <def6> that's a fine thanks
[06:26] <talisein> scott: its adjtime. I believe you can just delete the file and it will reset the whole Toofast thing
[06:27] <Staz> How can I remove google earth? (I installed it from a .deb)
[06:27] <scott> I think the clock is slow actually
[06:27] <Xenguy> scott: set a cron job
[06:27] <White_Castle> erm
[06:27] <def6> can i completely remove icons from the gnome menu?  i mean, i don't look for icons when i'm shooting for a prog..
[06:27] <def6> and that would surely make my menus quicker
[06:27] <talisein> scott: whichever it is, its correcting too much or too little. I'm googling on adjtime to make sure :)
[06:27] <White_Castle> ok, I just installed ubuntu a few hrs ago, but I didn't set any root password on installation
[06:28] <Xenguy> def6: you can do that in xfce ;-)
[06:28] <White_Castle> does it come with some sort of default?
[06:28] <def6> ugh, i know..
[06:28] <Xenguy> !root > White_Castle
[06:28] <monster^> ummm whats the gnome disk management program called?
[06:28] <def6> xenguy, you use xfce ?
[06:28] <Xenguy> def6: sometimes, yes
[06:28] <Xenguy> def6: depends on the hardware
[06:28] <White_Castle> White_Castle being my username?
[06:28] <def6> isee
[06:29] <Tyler-in-vic> what is my /ect/fstab? and how do I know if i have entries in it?
[06:29] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: less /etc/fstab
[06:30] <Tyler-in-vic> less of what?
[06:30] <wastrel> less is a program to view the contents of a file
[06:30] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: type: less /etc/fstab
[06:30] <utopia> :D
[06:30] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: less is more BTW
[06:30] <def6> lol
[06:30] <Tyler-in-vic> ok
[06:30] <wastrel> it's a command line program, use it in the terminal
[06:30] <LedStyle> OMG! "Feisty Fawn" is a too gay name in Portugueses!!
[06:30] <talisein> scott: http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/howto/time.html seems good enough. It confirms to just delete /etc/adjtime and let it start over
[06:31] <def6> it'll use itself after 30 boots
[06:31] <def6> broke my wrist rest again.. *goes to get tape*
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ less /ect/fstab
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> /ect/fstab: No such file or directory
[06:31] <antoni> anybody know if edgy (next ver) will support wpa natively in the network manager? if so, when?
[06:31] <Xenguy> Tyler-in-vic: etc
[06:31] <Splittor> it's /etc
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> is less not installed on the live cd?
[06:31] <Tyler-in-vic> oops
[06:32] <Tyler-in-vic> how do i quit less?
[06:32] <def6> has anyone ever tried an eclipse keyboard?
[06:32] <Xenguy> q
[06:32] <LedStyle> Tyler-in-vic, "q"
[06:32] <Madpilot> White_Castle, Ubuntu is set up to use your own user pw & sudo - have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:32] <talisein> Tyler-in-vic: q
[06:32] <def6> i'm gonna go with something that's self illuminating
[06:32] <def6> yea, xmas is coming and i have no clue
[06:33] <Tyler-in-vic> thanks folks
[06:33] <timalot> if i have an laptop with a CRT plugged into into vga port can... can i have a different refresh rate for the CRT ? how?
[06:33] <White_Castle> ok thanks
[06:33] <talisein> timalot: refresh rate? Or resolution?
[06:33] <timalot> talisein: refresh rate
[06:34] <talisein> timalot: what video chip?
[06:34] <timalot> talisein: its 60hz for the laptop lcd which is too low for a crt ... ie it hurts to look at... its using the savage Xorg driver
[06:34] <def6> wait, are you wanting to have a profile for the crt and the lappy seperate?
[06:35] <talisein> timalot: is the CRT a clone of the lcd, or a different screen?
[06:35] <harisund> is there any way I can tell Ubuntu that my /home will be nfs mounted? Or only after installation can I edit the fstab file to reflect the same?
[06:35] <timalot> clone of crt ....
[06:35] <timalot> cone of lcd on crt i mean
[06:35] <talisein> timalot: hmm, ok. we'll have to look at the savage documentation then
[06:36] <timalot> ok
[06:36] <def6> lol
[06:36] <White_Castle> Home come when I use su I get authentication failed?
[06:36] <harisund> White_Castle, what password are you using?
[06:36] <Xenguy> White_Castle: sudo -i   ?
[06:36] <def6> your pass isn't correct.
[06:36] <def6> :S
[06:37] <harisund> White_Castle, yeah you can't use su on ubuntu, atleast not by default
[06:37] <White_Castle> Oh ok, thanks.
[06:37] <peeps> does anyone know an easy way to find all the computer IPs on my network?
[06:37] <harisund> peeps, looking at your ip address and netmask? Or do you wnt to ping each one and find which ones are up?
[06:37] <def6> http://dmiessler.com/study/nix/commands/find/
[06:38] <omnius> Hello
[06:38] <Tyler-in-vic> check your dhcp servers client list
[06:38] <peeps> i want to ping them.  i'm actually trying to find out the ip of this network printer I just plugged in
[06:38] <macd> there is no lcd display on it?
[06:38] <timalot> talisein: i think its possible but it would mean restarting X.... probably best just to buy a standalone lcd monitor
[06:38] <omnius> how would i go about bridging 2 nic's?
[06:38] <peeps> hehe, no it's cheap
[06:39] <siXy> omnius: iptables
[06:39] <macd> omnius, its covered thoroughly in the iptables docs.
[06:39] <omnius> ok thanks guys
[06:40] <talisein> timalot: I'm not so sure. I'm still trying to find a comprehsive doc.
[06:41] <Healot> for iptables i guess you'd better off with a book
[06:42] <talisein> timalot: http://www.botchco.com/alex/new-savage/savage/working/XF86Config-mergedfb
[06:42] <talisein> timalot: Look at the values for CRT2VSync and VRefresh. copy that & try.
[06:42] <def6> does anyone here play games?
[06:42] <bur[n] er> sometimes
[06:43] <def6> which?
[06:43] <talisein> def6: Yes. On my Gamecube.
[06:43] <Newtoyou> Hi, I'm a linux newbie. Trying to install ubuntu but I get an X-Server error on the install disc
[06:43] <timalot> talisein: thanks alot ... i guess i need to do some xorg.conf magic...
[06:43] <def6> my gamepube has been collecting dust for 3 years
[06:43] <timalot> ill try it
[06:43] <def6> any fps fans?
[06:44] <def6> i
[06:44] <talisein> def6: This might be better conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <def6> oh.
[06:44] <def6> i appologize
[06:44] <talisein> np ^^
[06:44] <Newtoyou> So... um... installing Ubuntu?
[06:45] <talisein> Oh, right.
[06:45] <talisein> Xserver error on the livecd?
[06:45] <peeps> argh my printer has no IP address yet.
[06:45] <Newtoyou> Burned disc, popped in, launches linux kernal but fails to load Xserver?
[06:45] <talisein> Newtoyou: what sort of video card do you have?
[06:45] <Newtoyou> X300
[06:45] <Newtoyou> Its just a standard Dell Pentium D
[06:45] <talisein> Newtoyou: Hmm. Are you sure the cd burned right?
[06:46] <Newtoyou> Well pretty sure, just burned it on my Mac, never had troubles with ISOs before
[06:46] <Newtoyou> I think I may have downloaded 6.10, could that be to blame?
[06:46] <talisein> could be. do you remember what error it gave you?
[06:47] <Newtoyou> I'll launch it again
[06:47] <Newtoyou> One sec
[06:47] <talisein> ok
[06:47] <talisein> it will probably say: Xserver failed to start! View the log? <Yes> <cancel>, hit yes and scroll to the bottom to see what it died on
[06:48] <Newtoyou> ALrighty
[06:48] <Newtoyou> its booting
[06:49] <Newtoyou> FOr safe measure I'm downloading the 6.06 CD as I'm trying all this out
[06:49] <talisein> cool
[06:50] <talisein> for future reference, 6.10 technical problems should be on #ubuntu+1, but since no one else talking here I'll help you through this one :)
[06:51] <Newtoyou> thanks
[06:51] <Newtoyou> Okay, what's relevant on the screen?
[06:52] <Newtoyou> in the error msg
[06:52] <Newtoyou> that is
[06:52] <krab> how do I make a combination of keys bring up a program?
[06:52] <talisein> lines that start with (EE)
[06:52] <talisein> krab: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:54] <talisein> Newtoyou: Whatever the problem is is probably at the end of the log file
[06:57] <wastrel> krab:  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:58] <Newtoyou> back, computer on other end of the house and had to let the dog out. Anyhow, EE no Devices Detected
[06:58] <Newtoyou> Fatal SErver error
[06:58] <Newtoyou> No screens found
[06:59] <ArrenLex> Newtoyou: are you sure you're using the correct driver?
[06:59] <talisein> Newtoyou: Hmm. Can you get to a command prompt?
[06:59] <Newtoyou> I have no idea, I'm a linux newbie in the highest order
[06:59] <Newtoyou> yea
[06:59] <Newtoyou> It dumps me in the command prompt
[07:00] <talisein> Newtoyou: Does it say how to log in? Since its the livecd, I don't know what hte user name owuld be
[07:01] <Newtoyou> where would that be?
[07:01] <talisein> oh, it probably gives you a shell. nm.
[07:01] <Newtoyou> yeah
[07:01] <talisein> look at lspci and see if you spot the name of your videocard
[07:02] <Newtoyou> lspci -v right?
[07:02] <rm_you> I'm about an hour away from having all my hardware ready to set up a RAID5 array over 5 identical disks. I've been doing research all day and I haven't been able to decide between mdadm and evms. Any thoughts?
[07:03] <talisein> Newtoyou: that'll work too. I'm not really interested in much of the details, but I'd like to know if ubuntu recognizes the device for what it is
[07:03] <talisein> rm_you: Well, you can use mdadm after evms  to check up on /dev/md0.
[07:05] <rm_you> hrm...
[07:05] <Tyler-in-vic> is it possible to see what speed files transfer between drives?
[07:05] <talisein> rm_you: evmsgui makes a lot of things easier, sort of ;) But if you know how to use mdadm, you don't have to deal with another layer of abstraction
[07:05] <rm_you> talisein: they stack?  >_>
[07:05] <rm_you> lol yeah... complexity is what i'm trying to get AWAY from
[07:06] <talisein> rm_you: underneath the code, both of them tell the kernel the same thing, insofar as defining the RAID. So if you make it with mdadm, EVMS will see it.
[07:07] <talisein> rm_you: For my first raid, I used EVMS. GUIs are always easiest
[07:07] <omnius> I have installed bridge-utils form synaptic, how do i use it?
[07:07] <talisein> omnius: Are you virtualizing..?
[07:07] <omnius> just bridging 2 nic's
[07:08] <talisein> omnius: I haven't had a chance to play with bridging yet, so man page or google, unless westrel is awake and knows
[07:08] <omnius> how do i run it i should say
[07:08] <talisein> bridge-utils are all command line I believe
[07:08] <talisein> hmm. You might want to check network manager, actually
[07:09] <talisein> Newtoyou: how's it going?
[07:09] <omnius> thanks talisein
[07:10] <talisein> yw
[07:10] <Newtoyou> The prompt wasn't actually displaying anything
[07:10] <Newtoyou> it did last time, did the usually xxxxxx:~xxxx
[07:10] <Newtoyou> err usual
[07:11] <talisein> Newtoyou: I see. Best to try the 6.04 then I think. :)
[07:11] <Newtoyou> Not 6.06?
[07:11] <talisein> err, yeah
[07:11] <Newtoyou> Ah
[07:11] <Newtoyou> Yeah, I'm thinking the same
[07:11] <talisein> I forgot Edgy was on a reduced development time
[07:12] <Newtoyou> Torrent will be done in 25 minutes anythow
[07:12] <wastrel> hello
[07:12] <botxj> i wonder if they make embedded linux operating systems for devices
[07:12] <talisein> botxj: they certainly do.
[07:12] <Newtoyou> I'm hoping that the 6.06 is less problematic as right now I'm interesting in starting to familiarize with Linux, and I know the school I'll be working for sets up some community computers with Ubuntu.
[07:12] <drivera90> What sort of OS can I put on an 8088?
[07:12] <tritium> botxj: they do
[07:12] <poningru> drivera90: ubuntu
[07:13] <talisein> botxj: in fact, maaany embedded devices run linux.
[07:13] <poningru> drivera90: though not recomended
[07:13] <Splittor> botxj: you'd be surprised what runs on linux
[07:13] <botxj> give me an example of an embedded device
[07:13] <poningru> botxj: tivo
[07:13] <botxj> like one that i'd never think of but i use all the time
[07:13] <botxj> OMG TIVO!
[07:13] <talisein> botxj: cellphone?
[07:13] <poningru> yep
[07:13] <mr-russ> I have an auth user problem with POP3 on dovecot
[07:13] <botxj> do motorolla phones run on linux?
[07:13] <poningru> botxj: atleast het latest ones
[07:13] <mr-russ> If you login via telnet, and enter USER me@me.com, you get ERR Uknown command
[07:13] <poningru> botxj: some
[07:13] <AsheD> so my internet times out a lot, could it be something with drivers [or lacking]  in my system?
[07:14] <mr-russ> If you enter the same command again, you get OK, then pass, and you are logged in and it works fine.
[07:14] <bimberi_> poningru: even the first TiVos run Linux
[07:14] <mr-russ> I'm running 1.0.beta3 on ubuntu, 1.0.beta3-3ubuntu5
[07:14] <talisein> drivera90: 8088 huh. You have a 5 1/4" floppy?
[07:14] <poningru> bimberi_: they were?
[07:14] <mr-russ> Has anybody seen this before?
[07:14] <YBH_1> IE 7 is out http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx
[07:14] <bimberi_> poningru: i have one - the Series 1 can be hacked to work here (Australia)
[07:14] <poningru> botxj: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-984424.html
[07:15] <botxj> that is awesome!
[07:16] <ArrenLex> YBH_1: Hurrah! When will it be included in the repos!? Can you link straight to a tarball, please? Thanks for posting it on the Ubuntu channel! :)
[07:16] <talisein> mr-russ: sounds like a bug
[07:16] <mr-russ> talisein: do, can't get any info out of strace, or dovecot, or google.  it's a PITA
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Where can I find the complete changelog for a package?
[07:17] <talisein> mr-russ: file a bug on launchpad
[07:17] <|thunder> ArrenLex; what will be in the repo's ?
[07:17] <mr-russ> okay.
[07:17] <ArrenLex> (23:15:14) YBH_1: IE 7 is out http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx (23:16:39) ArrenLex: YBH_1: Hurrah! When will it be included in the repos!? Can you link straight to a tarball, please? Thanks for posting it on the Ubuntu channel! :)
[07:18] <YBH_1> sudo apt-get install bloatware
[07:18] <ArrenLex> That will install Openoffice and Firefox, though, won't it?
[07:18] <wastrel> hey, speaking of dovecot - i'm using imaps on my breezy system and having a prob w/ the ssl cert - the domain on the cert is localhost.localdomain , and my client (thunderbird) always yells about the cert name not matching the hostname of the imap server box.
[07:19] <mabreaux> does anyone know how to import my stuff form eudora into evolution?
[07:19] <talisein> wastrel: the server probably doesn't announce itself as localhost.localdomain
[07:20] <wastrel> talisein:  i imagine it doesn't - is there a way to fix the cert?
[07:21] <Blaze> I've just upgraded a dapper box to edgy, and it seems to freeze right after it loads the USB HID core driver(when I use a rescue kernel).  The HD light on the case keeps blinking.  Any thoughts?
[07:21] <talisein> wastrel: Bleh, it involves learning how SSL certs works, and then figuring out how ubuntu stores its certs. Probably take you an hour to read through enough HOWTOs actually fix it.
[07:22] <psy> hello
[07:22] <wastrel> hi hi
[07:22] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:22] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:22] <talisein> Blaze: Seems to freeze? How long do you wait? You might try to "tail -f /var/log/messages" in a terminal, then insert the usb drive and see what's happening. But edgy technical questions -> #ubuntu+1 please
[07:22] <psy> could somone help me upgrade from breezy to dapper
[07:23] <Blaze> talisein, it's before I even hit a login prompt
[07:23] <ArrenLex> sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:23] <talisein> psy: System -> Administration -> Update Manager. There should be a button in the upper right.
[07:23] <frantic> errrp
[07:23] <Blaze> hmm, just let itsit for a really long time(like a minute) and it just kept going
[07:23] <factotum> so anyone here have success with cedega from cvs?
[07:23] <wastrel> and leave the breezy stuff ?
[07:23] <talisein> Blaze: ooooh.
[07:23] <bimberi> !upgrade
[07:23] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:24] <ArrenLex> wastrel: won't this... update the breezy stuff?
[07:24] <Blaze> but I'll hop in #ubuntu+1, didn't know that's where I should head.
[07:24] <talisein> Blaze: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:24] <frantic> why can i not burn a video dvd????
[07:24] <wastrel> ArrenLex:  >> appends
[07:24] <factotum> ? whats #ubuntu+1 all about?
[07:24] <wastrel> also you didn't update
[07:24] <lostboyz> how do i use my webcam i am not able to send in amsn or kopete but i can see it when i plug it in
[07:24] <botxj> ubuntu plus 1?
[07:24] <lostboyz> why can't i send it?
[07:24] <botxj> what tha?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Ah. Yes.
[07:24] <botxj> why is it plus one?
[07:24] <tritium> factotum: the next stable release
[07:24] <Newtoyou> For Ubuntu 6.10
[07:24] <talisein> Its the place to discuss the current development release, whatever that is.
[07:25] <Newtoyou> ah
[07:25] <bimberi> talisein wins :)
[07:25] <Newtoyou> Yea
[07:25] <Blaze> talisein, yeah, I just finished doing an aptitude update and dist-upgrade, I'll give it another shot once this boot finishes
[07:25] <mabreaux> try #ubuntu+1
[07:25] <kiwichild> hi all
[07:25] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:25] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:26] <frantic> !dvd-video
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <ArrenLex> frantic: what are you trying to use to burn this video-dvd and what problems is it having?
[07:26] <talisein> frantic: Are you trying to burn a dvd for your dvd player?
[07:26] <frantic> talisein, yes
[07:27] <frantic> i used kmediafactory to make the menus and stuff
[07:27] <talisein> frantic: You probably need to transcode whatever video format you have into MPEG2. Its a big pain in the neck. ;)
[07:27] <psy> talisein that just updated breezy
[07:27] <frantic> yeah, i used avidemux to do that
[07:27] <Yggdrasil> hi can somone help me, im trying to add the dvd to my sources from console.. ?
[07:27] <frantic> then umm, i tried burning it with k3b
[07:27] <lostboyz> how do i use my webcam i am not able to send in amsn or kopete but i can see it when i plug it in
[07:28] <frantic> then i tried making the iso myself with mkisofs and burning that
[07:28] <kiwichild> can anyone tell me how to get the standard mirc setup for ubuntu and how to add my hybrid omega script to make it work. I have it running in windows  but not in ubuntu
[07:28] <talisein> psy: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[07:28] <frantic> then i tried burning the iso myself with growisofs
[07:28] <ArrenLex> Yggdrasil: man apt-cdrom
[07:28] <Yggdrasil> k thanks
[07:28] <frantic> then finally tried skipping the iso stage with growisofs
[07:29] <ArrenLex> frantic: hold on, one thing at a time. You tried burning it with k3b, and what happen?
[07:29] <frantic> the computer always said that it worked
[07:29] <frantic> and the dvd player always says it did not
[07:29] <frantic> "Incorrect Disc"
[07:29] <talisein> frantic: I think I used QDVDAuthor successfully.
[07:29] <pip> hello
[07:29] <pip> I need hel
[07:30] <talisein> !helpme
[07:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:30] <pip> I need help,how can I start my ubuntu with install  CD
[07:30] <lostboyz> does anyone here run a webcam on amsn?
[07:30] <talisein> pip: I don't quite understand. You have already installed Ubuntu, but you need to use the install CD?
[07:30] <frantic> i'm fairly sure kmediafactory used dvdauthor to generate the TS_VIDEO or whatever it is
[07:31] <BelialMkII> yes lostboyz, your not working
[07:31] <pip> talisein, I lost my grub
[07:31] <ArrenLex> frantic: what would happen if you tried encoding your movie to mp2 with a different program?
[07:31] <lostboyz> my webcam is not working yes
[07:31] <frantic> i'm not sure
[07:31] <pip> so I need to start my ubuntu with the CD rom
[07:31] <ArrenLex> frantic: this guide + k3b has allowed me to make playable DVDs in the past: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html
[07:31] <talisein> pip: Is this a LiveCD? Or one of the install-only cds?
[07:31] <frantic> but i think avidemux did an ok job
[07:32] <lostboyz> i can see it when i use camorama
[07:32] <BelialMkII> lostboyz, Does it work ion any other programs? Like ekiga or camstream, and do you ahve a /dev/video at all
[07:32] <frantic> it has sort of a dvd preset thing
[07:32] <ArrenLex> frantic: if you try this, and it doesn't work, then you know avidemux did an ok job.
[07:32] <lostboyz> i see it
[07:32] <lostboyz> yes but i am not able to send it
[07:32] <lostboyz> for some reason
[07:32] <lostboyz> it comes up black
[07:32] <pip> talisein, I mean can I start my ubuntu with a live CD or an install cd ?
[07:32] <lostboyz> i see it but they dont
[07:32] <BelialMkII> Try compiling their CVS version, same happened with me
[07:32] <frantic> yeah, i'm gunna look into this
[07:32] <pip> talisein, if so ,please tell me how ?
[07:32] <pip> talisein, I am not familliar with ubuntu
[07:33] <wastrel> !grub
[07:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:33] <bimberi> pip: this method should help you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:33] <Splittor> can't you just have it repair GRUB from the livecd?
[07:33] <pip> talisein, I installed ubuntu on my hard disk ,but I lost it yesterday,so how can I start my ubuntu ?
[07:34] <talisein> pip: follow the instructions at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:34] <bimberi> :)
[07:34] <pip> thanks
[07:35] <frantic> wait
[07:35] <frantic> Just to make sure, I want PAL DVD right?
[07:35] <pip> is the same for 5.10 ?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> frantic: where do you live?
[07:35] <talisein> frantic: are you in Europe?
[07:35] <frantic> USA? :(
[07:35] <pip> talisein, it is for 5.10 ?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Then no.
[07:35] <mnepton> NTSC
[07:35] <ArrenLex> NTSC.
[07:35] <talisein> frantic: NTSC-M lol :)
[07:35] <frantic> hahaha
[07:35] <AsheD> I can't get my Evolution to work
[07:35] <frantic> god, i bet that's why
[07:36] <AsheD> it acts like its trying to connect to the server, but times out every time, on every server
[07:36] <talisein> pip: that guide should work for 5.10
[07:36] <ArrenLex> AsheD: apt-get install darwin? =P Kidding.
[07:36] <AsheD> ArrenLex:: I don't want to die just yet
[07:36] <frantic> LOOOOOLLLL
[07:36] <cniowenm>  help
[07:36] <cniowenm> to install skype
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !skype
[07:36] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:37] <Kumasan> anyone have a hint or three  on how to get vpn connection to MS-pptp with Ubuntu as a client? I have nm-manager-applet with the pptp plugin installed. And have configured (as far as I can) the relevent vpn info into nm-applet, but how tdo I "fire it off" as it were?
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> yay! finally, flash 9
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> works!
[07:38] <cniowenm> sameon can help me to install skype in my computer
[07:38] <frantic> haha yeah, that's awesome
[07:38] <BelialMkII> huh, where so BHSPitLappy
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> adobe
[07:38] <ArrenLex> BHSPitLappy: enjoy it =P I'm sticking with my 7 because I like the fact that it caches Pandora to /tmp, which 9 doesn't.
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:38] <frantic> ok guys, thanks a bunch for the help as always
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Yay free music.
[07:38] <BelialMkII> sweet, didnt think that was a while yet
[07:38] <frantic> I'm gunna redo these with NTSC or whatever this time
[07:38] <Splittor> Kumasan: how about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91249
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> Does anyone know of an ActiveSync clone for Linux? Or has anyone had success running ActiveSync in Wine?
[07:40] <Rupie> SpaceFrog: do you have a real PDA, or a smartphone?
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> smartphone
[07:40] <Kumasan> Splittor, thanks, But that's for using some pptpconfig tool. I'd really like to get network-manager to do this. (using Edgy also, rather than dapper or breezy) But thanks.
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> but regardless, i need to install software using activesync
[07:40] <Rupie> SpaceFrog: then you're going to have problems. Check out synce, but it does not run well with smartphones. Couldn't get it to work with mine.
[07:40] <Rupie> !synce
[07:40] <ubotu> Details of setting up synce-serial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[07:41] <SpaceFrog> thanks Rupie
[07:41] <Rupie> np
[07:42] <rixth> !ops please kick ban Selecta for /msg spam on join
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops please kick ban Selecta for /msg spam on join - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <Splittor> i see, sorry...i know i was able to connect VPN in Dapper using the pptpconfig
[07:43] <Kumasan> Splittor, thanks. I will try that if I can't get the nm applet thingy to do it's thing. I just want to get that running if I can.
[07:44] <chuckyp> !ops selecta is selling crap via spam upon channel join
[07:44] <lostboyz> how do i use my webcam i am not able to send in amsn or kopete but i can see it when i plug it in
[07:44] <Kumasan> Splittor, there has to be some way to make it activate the vpn... I just can't seem to poke it.
[07:44] <rixth> chuckyp, !ops doesn't work anymore
[07:44] <Splittor> I understand ya
[07:44] <chuckyp> hrm...
[07:44] <chuckyp> !ops
[07:44] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:44] <sethk> nm isn't network manager.  nm is the name utility, prints symbols in an executable or library file
[07:44] <Madpilot> Enough!
[07:44] <chuckyp> rixth, yes it does
[07:44] <Madpilot> yelling ops once is ample...
[07:45] <chuckyp> Madpilot, I didn't do it the first time.
[07:45] <Kumasan> sethk, nm-applet
[07:45] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: ?
[07:45] <numist> ubotu: what
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Does it actually work when there's a message after the trigger like that?
[07:45] <Madpilot> rixth, for future reference: no msg after the trigger, just the trigger
[07:45] <rixth> tonyyarusso, it certainly used to
[07:45] <chuckyp> Madpilot, I thought because I had text behind ops that it was messed up because ubotu was trying to learn it.  didn't know it worked.
[07:45] <Madpilot> rixth, no it doesn't, never has AFAIK
[07:45] <sethk> Kumasan, nm-applet is not nm.  if you type nm, you get nm
[07:45] <sethk> :)
[07:46] <bimberi> um, no it didn't
[07:46] <Kumasan> sethk, yeah, I know, ain't tab completion wonderful :)
[07:46] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, Nah someone spam selling crap in here.
[07:46] <rixth> Yes, you used to be able to put "!ops please remove X" and the message would say "*ops names* please remove X" or whatever
[07:46] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, upon channel join you get a message from selecta or something.
[07:46] <chuckyp> rixth, but we cant' because of ubotu.
[07:47] <Madpilot> rixth, not in the year+ I've been here, the ops tell has never worked that way
[07:47] <tich> hey, how do i find out the processor speed?
[07:47] <chuckyp> brb
[07:47] <rixth> Maybe I'm thinking of debian, oh well.
[07:47] <rixth> tich, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:47] <sethk> tich, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:47] <Kumasan> tich, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:47] <rixth> I win!
[07:47] <totall_6_7> LOL
[07:47] <Kumasan> :)
[07:48] <rixth> Now- why I originally came in here. How can I find out a list of modules that CAN be loaded?
[07:48] <Splittor> sleep time.  night everyone
[07:49] <sethk> rixth, do a find in /lib/modules/xxxxxx   (xxxx is the kernel version)
[07:49] <rixth> Okie dokie, thanks
[07:49] <sethk> rixth, a find for '*.ko'
[07:50] <levander> What's the X server program for moving the entire root window around on the screen?
[07:50] <levander> I forgot what it's called.
[07:51] <pip> talisein, Hi,my problem is this : I installed ubuntu on my harddisk on which there is a windows OS ,and I use grub for both two OS,and sometime I reinstalled windows system and now how can I ..?
[07:51] <leftjustified> can someone please tell me how to uninstall vmware server using apt?
[07:51] <wastrel> !grub
[07:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:51] <macd> leftjustified 'sudo apt-get remove <packagenamehere"'
[07:52] <leftjustified> wicked, thankyou macd
[07:52] <Yggdrasil> i would have figured that the dvd would have all the repositories... does it have more than the cd?
[07:52] <pip> talisein, and I can not go into the rescue mode
[07:53] <wastrel> pip:  do you have the livecd or install cd?
[07:53] <sethk> pip, boot the live cd, do chroot, then reinstall grub
[07:53] <pip> I have both cd s
[07:54] <pip> OK
[07:54] <re-align> Anyone know of a program for Ubuntu that can create and edit PDF files? My Windows install died and I no longer have access to my Acrobat...at least I can still access the NTFS partition...
[07:54] <wastrel> pip follow the instructions on the wiki page (see above)
[07:54] <pip> just type : grub-install command ?
[07:54] <kmu> re-align: open office can save as pdf
[07:54] <pip> wasabi, and how can I make sure if the harddisk was formatted or not
[07:54] <sethk> pip, I prefer to use the grub utility.
[07:55] <kmu> re-align: or export
[07:55] <pip> because I found that the harddisk shows free all of its space
[07:55] <sethk> pip, IDE drives do not need to be formatted
[07:55] <re-align> kmu: I know, I need to edit an existing PDF file.
[07:55] <kmu> re-align: ahh, sorry
[07:55] <sethk> pip, you mean you have no partitions?  but windows is booting?  that sounds just a bit unlikely.  :)
[07:55] <pip> sethk, yea
[07:55] <pip> sethk, no
[07:55] <sethk> re-align, send money to adobe, then edit pdf file.
[07:55] <pip> sethk, no partitions
[07:56] <pip> sethk, no ,I can not start windows now
[07:56] <sethk> pip, you can use the entire drive in linux with no partitions.  windows, however, won't do that.
[07:56] <sethk> pip, sounds like you lost your partition table, possibly.
[07:56] <AsheD> why isn't my Evolution able to connect to gmail?
[07:56] <re-align> sethk: There's a linux version of Acrobat?
[07:56] <pip> sethk, that 's right
[07:56] <sethk> pip, how did you get into this situation?
[07:56] <sethk> re-align, I'm not sure.
[07:56] <wastrel> you may have installed windows over linux
[07:56] <mnepton> AsheD: follow the GMail setup exactly.
[07:57] <pip> sethk, how can I recover my partitions table ?
[07:57] <sethk> wastrel, not if he has no partitions
[07:57] <pip> sethk, I said above
[07:57] <pip> sethk, please see it
[07:57] <mnepton> AsheD: and if that still doesn't work, ask your ISP if they are blocking any ports.
[07:57] <wastrel> he doesn't know what a partition is
[07:57] <sethk> wastrel, possible.
[07:58] <unfo> hi all, is magic sysrq enabled in the ubuntu 6.06 kernel?
[07:58] <sethk> pip, do this from the live cd:     fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:58] <pip> OK
[07:58] <pip> wait a minutet
[07:58] <Yggdrasil> is there any way to burn the repositories to cds ? or dvds ?
[07:58] <AsheD> mnepton:: what if the directions I am reading differ a bit from my copy of Evo?
[07:59] <sethk> Yggdrasil, sure.  in fact, after installing, you'll see that the install CD is one repository
[07:59] <sethk> Yggdrasil, you can set up the other repositories similarly
[07:59] <AsheD> says for secure connection, use "always", but my options are TLS or SSL
[07:59] <sethk> Yggdrasil, of course, there will be too much data to put each repository on a CD, so you'll have to split them  up.  probably for dvd also.
[08:00] <Yggdrasil> sethk im trying to turn my freidn on to ubuntu and im giving him a box but he doesnt have an internet conection
[08:00] <unfo> (could anyone tell me what it says on the first line of the file /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq on ubuntu 6.06?)
[08:00] <levander> Why the hell when I go to install nvidia-glx does it want to upgrade my kernel??
[08:00] <TiG4> La La La I Love Flash 9 Beta!!!
[08:00] <unfo> levander: i don't know, but if you ask politely you are more likely to get an answer :-)
[08:00] <ArrenLex> TiG4: it makes my browser run really slow for some reason. Does that happen to you? Tabs, lots of tabs.
[08:00] <levander> unfo: you're no fun
[08:01] <sethk> Yggdrasil, you can put the data onto CDs, or onto a hard drive in his box.
[08:01] <TiG4> ArrenLex, Nope, I'm using swiftfox though
[08:01] <levander> Why when I install the nvidia-glx package does it want to upgrade my kernel?
[08:01] <ArrenLex> levander: probably because it depends on restricted modules which exist only for a newer kernel.
[08:01] <Yggdrasil> sethk i downloaded the ubuntu dvd and i thought that would have a lot but alot is missing..
[08:01] <sethk> levander, you are installing a kernel module.  kernel modules must be built for a specific kernel.
[08:01] <Yggdrasil> its gota dvd reader on it.
[08:01] <ArrenLex> TiG4: well, enjoy =P I'm keeping flash 7 anyway. I like the fact that it caches Pandora to /tmp, which 9 does not... yay free music.
[08:02] <TiG4> lol
[08:02] <levander> I just upgraded from an old AGP 2x card to an nVidia 6200 and my computer seems more responsive.  Is that supposed to happen?  I didn't think it would happen with business graphics.
[08:02] <levander> sethk: thanks
[08:02] <sethk> Yggdrasil, it isn't designed to have everything.  I'd use a different distro that has things the way you want them.
[08:02] <levander> sethk: but, it makes me a little leary of installing it now...
[08:02] <ArrenLex> levander: indirect rendering => lots of CPU work.
[08:02] <Yggdrasil> sethk. hes a pretty novice user so this is good for him.
[08:02] <sethk> levander, yes, it could certainly happen.
[08:03] <Yggdrasil> ill just load up what he needs anyway now that its on my net
[08:03] <sethk> Yggdrasil, ok, but you can just install fedora and give him the fedora CDs and he's all set.
[08:03] <Yggdrasil> oh really?
[08:03] <Yggdrasil> hmm intersting
[08:03] <hutchGuy> will gdesklets run on xfce ? thanks
[08:03] <Yggdrasil> how many fedora cds are there?
[08:04] <sethk> Yggdrasil, 5, i believe.  let me check
[08:04] <Yggdrasil> bah i dont like fedora its rather lame ..
[08:04] <Yggdrasil> nah its cool
[08:04] <unfo> sethk: are you sure fedora plays MP3s and DVDs?
[08:04] <sethk> unfo, yes
[08:04] <levander> Rupie: but, I haven't installed hardware acceleration (nvidia-glx package) yet, so wouldn't it still be doing indirect rendering?
[08:04] <Rupie> Yes. So I dunno.
[08:04] <sethk> unfo, any linux program can be installed on any linux distro.  It may be harder or easier for certain distros, but it is always possible
[08:04] <unfo> could anyone tell me: what number does it say on the first line of the file /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq on ubuntu 6.06?
[08:05] <pip> sethk, there is nothing result for that command
[08:05] <unfo> sethk: i mean, are you sure it ships with mp3 codecs and libdvdcss included
[08:05] <Yggdrasil> sethk thanks for the info.
[08:05] <sethk> pip, not possible
[08:05] <unfo> sethk: his friend has no internet connection.
[08:05] <pip> sethk, wait
[08:05] <meney> Does anybody know 6.10's codename?
[08:05] <sethk> unfo, yes, indeed, that's the entire point.
[08:05] <Rupie> unfo: for me? There is only 1 line, and it is 1.
[08:05] <Rupie> meney: Edgy eft?
[08:06] <unfo> Rupie: good, that is all i needed to know, thank you. now perhaps i will be able to unfreeze my PC :)
[08:06] <pip> sethk, it said that : can't not open /dev/hda
[08:06] <meney> ahh, ok. Thanks Rupie
[08:06] <Yggdrasil> is there any way to make the cd player door close when its open from cmd line ?
[08:06] <Yggdrasil> hehe
[08:06] <unfo> meney: wait until it is officially released to get it.
[08:06] <sethk> pip, you need to be root.    sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:06] <meney> ok
[08:06] <levander> sethk: why does upgrading the graphics card make business graphics faster? I'm still trying to figure this out.
[08:07] <sethk> levander, business graphics are still graphcis.  If you dramatically improve the performance of modifying what's on the screen, then things go faster.
[08:07] <unfo> Yggdrasil: that would be impolite and make people hate linux. doing so is the opposite of what we promote here. :)
[08:07] <sethk> levander, the card can move video data much more quickly.
[08:07] <Yggdrasil> unfo
[08:07] <Yggdrasil> wtf ?
[08:08] <unfo> Yggdrasil: are you not asking how to do a prank?
[08:08] <Rupie> Yggrasil: closing your CD drive is very rude. Tsk tsk tsk.
[08:08] <pip> sethk,hi,it says : the harddisk is 80G space and there is not a partition table blow
[08:08] <Yggdrasil> to close my cd drive when im sshd in. instead of having to get out of bed and go down stairs ?
[08:08] <pip> sethk, just the colums left
[08:08] <sethk> Yggdrasil, I don't know what they are talking about.
[08:08] <levander> sethk: k, thanks.  I didn't know business graphics did any real work on the graphics card, i thought the CPU just told the video card what pixels to render, and the video card did it.  Have never read about 2D video card features, have only heard about 3D ones
[08:08] <unfo> Yggdrasil: oh, i thought you meant "as soon as it opens, close it on your finger". :)
[08:08] <unfo> Yggdrasil: use eject
[08:08] <wastrel> why is your cd drive open when you're upstairs?
[08:08] <Yggdrasil> its open
[08:08] <sethk> Yggdrasil, you can eject the cd from the command line.
[08:08] <Yggdrasil> i dont know
[08:08] <pip> sethk, I did not know how I formatted the harddisk
[08:08] <Yggdrasil> something happend
[08:08] <unfo> Yggdrasil: i think if you type eject /dev/cdrom it will close.
[08:09] <Yggdrasil> im trying to close it
[08:09] <Rupie> Yggradsil: eject -t
[08:09] <Yggdrasil> thanks .. lets see
[08:09] <Rupie> Yggradsil: and just eject to open it.
[08:09] <sethk> pip, I don't know what fdisk -l showed for you.  can you put it on the paste web site?
[08:09] <peeps> if I set up a share folder in Ubuntu(with samba), how do I access it from another linux box?
[08:10] <Yggdrasil> man eject thanks guys
[08:10] <Rupie> peeps: with samba protocol? Using samba. Else, you can try fish.
[08:10] <sethk> Yggdrasil, I use eject /dev/hdc (for my cd) and eject /dev/hdd (for my burner)
[08:10] <pip> no I can not do that easily ,I was doing that with my CRT computer
[08:10] <pip> this is my laptop
[08:10] <sethk> peeps, you can share linux to linux using NFS.  But you can also use samba to install linux to linux, presuming you need the share for a windows box as well.
[08:11] <sethk> pip, you an capture the output, and transfer it to your laptop on the network, or with a usb stick, or whatever.
[08:11] <unfo> Yggdrasil: i apologize for misunderstanding you before.
[08:11] <Yggdrasil> unfo i appologize for .. overreacting
[08:11] <Yggdrasil> im sorry
[08:12] <peeps> like smb://hostname/path ?
[08:12] <unfo> Yggdrasil: dont worry :)
[08:12] <peeps> it doesn't seem to work
[08:12] <pip> I mean there is not a partition table for the result of that command ,does that mean that the harddisk has been formatted ? if so ,I have lost the windows and linux data both and I will reinstall the systems
[08:12] <sethk> I don't appologize for anything, because I don't even know what we were talking about.  :)
[08:12] <variant> pip: wait
[08:12] <unfo> pip: no, it does not mean that.
[08:12] <Yggdrasil>  eject -v -t cdrom1 and then withouth the t ejects it
[08:12] <Yggdrasil> pretty cool to watch from cmd line
[08:12] <pip> unfo, thanks
[08:12] <Rupie> pip: are you trying to run fdisk -l? Use sudo.
[08:12] <pip> I hope so
[08:12] <sethk> pip, I would need to see what that command actually printed.  even if there are no displayed partitions, the output of the command is important
[08:12] <pip> yea
[08:12] <sethk> pip, if you hope to reconstruct the partition table
[08:12] <pip> I did with sudo
[08:13] <wastrel> dake a pic with your digital camera
[08:13] <unfo> pip: what is the entire command you typed?
[08:13] <wastrel> s/^d/t/
[08:13] <pip> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:13] <variant> pip: if the data is important then you can normally recover thepartition table. if no data has been written to the disk since the most recent format/partition you can probably recover almost all.
[08:13] <peeps> can I browse my samba shares in nautilus?
[08:13] <variant> pip: it's not terribly easy though
[08:13] <unfo> variant: you are assuming it is messed up
[08:13] <variant> pip: that donst deleet anything
[08:14] <variant> pip: fdisk -l just lists the paritions
[08:14] <variant> unfo: not really, just in case he has
[08:14] <pradeep_> how do i kill a user session?
[08:14] <unfo> pip: dont listen to variant. do this: sudo file -s /dev/hd[a-d] [1-4] 
[08:14] <variant> unfo: don't want hime to rush off and reinstall
[08:14] <unfo> variant: its easy to scare people when really they are not in a bad situation.
[08:14] <variant> pradeep_: su username
[08:14] <variant> pradeep_: killall -l -K
[08:14] <sethk> pradeep_, kill the user's login shell
[08:14] <unfo> pip: do any of the entries listed say "partition"?
[08:15] <pradeep_> sethk, variant kill all user shells?
[08:15] <pradeep_> ok
[08:15] <variant> pradeep_: killall -l -k (run that AS the user and it will kill everything the user is doing)
[08:16] <sethk> pradeep_, you only need to kill login shells.  you can kill all of the shell, it will work, it's just a bit of overkill
[08:16] <arctictp> :)\
[08:16] <unfo> pip: in fact, do any say the word "Linux", "x86", "boot", or "Windows"
[08:16] <unfo> ?
[08:16] <pip> wait
[08:16] <arctictp> None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:16] <arctictp> is this differing from root access?
[08:16] <pip> I have captured the screenshot of my shell
[08:16] <pip> wait
[08:17] <arctictp> k
[08:17] <unfo> pip: its a yes or no question :)
[08:17] <pradeep_> sethk: thanks! that worked!
[08:18] <sethk> pradeep_, good.  :)
[08:18] <pip> unfo, I do not understand
[08:19] <unfo> pip: in fact, did sudo file -s /dev/hd[a-d] [1-4]  say the word "Linux", "x86", "boot", or "Windows" at least once?
[08:19] <sethk> pip, show us that screen, so we can become unconfused
[08:19] <unfo> oops small mistake
[08:19] <unfo> pip: did sudo file -s /dev/hd[a-d] [1-4]  say the word "Linux", "x86", "boot", or "Windows" at least once?
[08:20] <unfo> sethk: since i came in here in the middle: what were p's original symptoms?
[08:21] <sethk> unfo, he believes he clobbered is partition table.  I want to see the output of fdisk -l, because I'm not he can tell us what'a happening.
[08:22] <sethk> unfo, if he did a windows install (as he said) he could have killed the linux partitions, but certainly you would see windows partitions listed in fdisk -l
[08:22] <pip> sethk, http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpl9.png
[08:22] <pip> valehru, http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpl9.png
[08:22] <unfo> pip: it is extremely rare and unlikely that you destroyed your partition table. also, if you did clobber it, there is a tool called GPART that can fix it for you.
[08:22] <pip> unfo, http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpl9.png
[08:23] <sethk> pip, yes, no partitions.
[08:23] <variant> lol, have fun
[08:23] <sethk> pip, do you know how large some, or any, of the original partitions were?
[08:23] <pip> sethk, so what 's the exact problem I do have
[08:23] <pip> 12G
[08:23] <pip> 13G
[08:23] <wastrel> ooh chinese
[08:24] <pip> the linux partiton is 13G
[08:24] <unfo> pip: you are probably running the wrong fdisk command.
[08:24] <sethk> pip, you can attempt to recover the partition table, or you can reinstall
[08:24] <pip> wastrel, yeah,I am Chinese so my Enhlish is poor ,sorry
[08:24] <Draconicus> Where are default TTF fonts like Nimbus Sans located?
[08:24] <variant> pip: personally i would use testdisk but gpart might do the trick too
[08:24] <unfo> pip: try: file -s /dev/hd[a-d] [1-4] . does it say any of those words?
[08:24] <pip> unfo, really ?
[08:24] <AsheD> any idea why Evolution gets *some* emails but not most?
[08:24] <tnnc> can someone advise me where is can find help with coppermine?
[08:24] <variant> pip: your english is actualy very good
[08:24] <wastrel> your english is pretty good actually :]   good luck with your disk problem
[08:24] <pip> unfo, the command you gave me does not work
[08:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> what is a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[08:25] <pip> the result is errot
[08:25] <unfo> pip: what error
[08:25] <pip> error
[08:25] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, rythmbox
[08:25] <variant> unfo: perhaps you should make that cmore clear
[08:25] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, comes with ubuntu
[08:25] <variant> unfo: as it is obvious that he is entering _exactly_ what you say
[08:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> yup
[08:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> and also
[08:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> is there a way to watch movies over the network
[08:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> seems that i cant
[08:25] <sethk> pip, we have too many people trying to help you with this, so I'll back off.  If you need me I'll be here for a while.
[08:25] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: mplayer
[08:25] <kraut> moin
[08:25] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: or vlc
[08:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> nar, hates it
[08:26] <chuckyp> !codec > Ligerzero|Monkey
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> already have
[08:26] <chuckyp> !codecs > Ligerzero|Monkey
[08:26] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, oh sry
[08:26] <pip> error:can not open ...(no such file or directory)
[08:26] <unfo> pip: can not open what?
[08:26] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: so, you dont want to use mplayer or vlc??
[08:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> no
[08:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> i arleady have them
[08:26] <arctictp> permission to request assistance?
[08:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> but
[08:26] <wastrel> so the udev scripts for my palm pilot always create the  /dev/pilot  symlink pointing to the wrong usb device,  any idea how to fix this?
[08:26] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: there are probably a few others but i dont know of them
[08:26] <pip> the /dev/hd[a-d] [1-4] 
[08:26] <wastrel> !enter
[08:26] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> i cannot watch it through network folders
[08:26] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, well then you should be able to watch movies from streams
[08:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> i have to copy it to my hdd
[08:26] <Draconicus> No love for the font question. :(
[08:27] <wastrel> Draconicus:  locate nimbus
[08:27] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, why?  just double click the movie from the network folder
[08:27] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: with mplayer you can
[08:27] <unfo> arctictp: you can always ask, and if someone is free theyll answer.
[08:27] <arctictp> lol
[08:27] <arctictp> ok
[08:27] <Ligerzero|Monkey> ill try again, but im sure mplayer cant
[08:27] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: mplayer path/to/stream (that can be on a network drive or whatever
[08:27] <arctictp> i've attempted . mount -t ntfs <device> <existing empty directory
[08:27] <Draconicus> wastrel: It found nothing.
[08:27] <variant> Ligerzero|Monkey: i am 100% certain that it can
[08:27] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, it can.
[08:27] <arctictp> in order to access a ntfs partition contaqining xp
[08:27] <unfo> pip: you wrote: "cannot find ..." can you tell us the entire error message without abbreviating anything?
[08:27] <arctictp> the command rejects me
[08:28] <tnnc> is there anyone that can answer an ? on coppermine photo album for me thanks
[08:28] <arctictp> yet i can acess synatpitc
[08:28] <arctictp> synaptic and aptget
[08:28] <pip> error: can not open  /dev/hd[a-d] [1-4]  (no such file or directory)
[08:28] <unfo> arctictp: please ask your entire question on one line, and end it with a question mark. otherwise nobody will read your question.
[08:28] <arctictp> l
[08:28] <unfo> pip: ok try this one:
[08:28] <arctictp> k
[08:28] <variant> unfo: look, it is obvious that he took what you said litteraly, typek file /dev/hd[a] [b]  etc which is obviously not a valid command
[08:28] <unfo> pip: sudo file -s /dev/sd[a-d] [1-4] 
[08:28] <pip> the command must be wrong I think
[08:28] <wastrel> Draconicus:  grep Font /etc/X11/xorg.conf  mebby
[08:28] <unfo> variant: i am using shell globbing
[08:29] <pip> wait
[08:29] <unfo> variant: open a shell, try typing it yourself, and you will see what it does.
[08:29] <Ligerzero|Monkey> drag and drop dont work
[08:29] <variant> unfo: he must be typing it wrong
[08:29] <Ligerzero|Monkey> nor even trying to find it via the normal way
[08:29] <unfo> variant: possible.
[08:29] <variant> unfo: with the . at the end i excpect
[08:29] <pip> unfo, the same error message
[08:30] <arctictp> i'm trying to access a ntfs (hdd/volume) containing windows XP. the command mount -t ntfs <device> <existing empty directory  gives me a authoritive error.  this i don't understand as i have acess to synaptic package manager and apt-get commands.  Any idea of how to mount the ntfs drive. (normally c:)  and copy to my ubuntu storage?
[08:30] <pip> it is not scsi harddisk
[08:30] <wastrel> !ntfs
[08:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:30] <arctictp> wtf
[08:30] <pip> unfo, are you sure it is the file command ?
[08:30] <arctictp> c.:.\
[08:30] <unfo> pip: sudo file -s /dev/hd* /dev/sd*
[08:31] <unfo> pip: yes. please type for us the entire first line that the file command tells you.
[08:31] <Draconicus> wastrel: I think they aren't TTF and don't have default names.
[08:31] <Draconicus> Err... normal names.
[08:31] <fowlduck> anyone know how to solve a Grub Error 18?
[08:32] <Ligerzero|Monkey> !codecs
[08:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:32] <unfo> Grub Error 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[08:32] <Draconicus> There are a bunch of Type1 fonts with alphanumeric names.
[08:32] <ksmurf> http://pastebin.ca/209534 does this look OK?
[08:32] <pip> unfo, first line of the result is: /dev/hda : x86 boot sector
[08:32] <unfo> pip: 2nd and 3rd?
[08:32] <arctictp> ty, following up
[08:32] <fowlduck> !grub
[08:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:32] <pip> and the second line is :/dev/hdc : ISO-9660 ....
[08:32] <unfo> folduck: This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general).
[08:33] <unfo> folduck: how old is your computer?
[08:33] <pip> the 3rd line is : can not open /dev/sd*
[08:33] <fowlduck> unfo, pretty old
[08:33] <pip> no such file or diretory
[08:33] <fowlduck> unfo, i was just running dapper with no issues though
[08:33] <unfo> fowlduck: :-(
[08:33] <pip> that's all
[08:33] <pradeep_> exit
[08:33] <fowlduck> unfo, just installed edgy and I get this error, but I'm using edgy on my laptop and another pc wth no issues
[08:34] <unfo> fowlduck: i recommend you ask the grub experts. go to channel #grub but if they dont respond then wait.
[08:34] <ksmurf> http://pastebin.ca/209534 does this look OK?  It is for firefox
[08:34] <variant> fowlduck: did you make any changes to your bios?
[08:34] <unfo> fowlduck: if they still dont respond ask the grub mailing list, or if you dont know how then ask at www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:35] <unfo> pip: there were only 3 lines of response?
[08:35] <fowlduck> variant, no
[08:35] <rem64> hi guys
[08:35] <arctictp> thank you very much peoples
[08:35] <unfo> rem64: hi
[08:35] <arctictp> all is well
[08:35] <pip> unfo, yeah
[08:35] <variant> fowlduck: boot to the live cd and try to re-install grub
[08:35] <rem64> hi unfo how's things?
[08:35] <variant> fowlduck: do it manualy, using grub shell
[08:36] <pip> unfo, is the file command you gave me correct  ?
[08:36] <unfo> rem64: they are good but this is not a chat channel.
[08:36] <variant> fowlduck: if it doesnt work then you could try unfo's idea
[08:36] <Diiba> Moi :D
[08:36] <Diiba> *Hi
[08:36] <GNAM> today edgy candidate!
[08:36] <GNAM> wow
[08:36] <unfo> rem64: type this:
[08:36] <Diiba> How can I take screenshots in Fluxbox.
[08:36] <unfo> /join #off-topic
[08:36] <rem64> hi dii
[08:36] <Ademan> does linux support SATA adapters? (ie a pci card to allow you to use a SATA hdd) ?
[08:36] <unfo> rem64: if it doesn't work let us know.
[08:36] <Diiba> Mean, do you need any specific programs.
[08:36] <variant> Diiba: try feh..
[08:36] <fowlduck> variant, i already tried to reinstall grub, no dice
[08:36] <Diiba> feh, ok
[08:36] <Diiba> D:
[08:37] <variant> fowlduck: damn :/
[08:37] <variant> Ademan: yep
[08:37] <unfo> pip: it was correct. you need to use a utility that will fix your partition table for you.
[08:37] <fowlduck> variant, and I checked my menu.lst from the rescue disk, it looks reasonable
[08:37] <pip> how can I use ?
[08:37] <fowlduck> but thanks :)
[08:37] <arctictp> LOL
[08:37] <pip> unfo, where is the untility ?
[08:37] <Ademan> am i asking for trouble upgrading to edgy?
[08:37] <Ademan> (right now)
[08:37] <variant> fowlduck: yeah, perhaps a bug in the version of grub you got with edgy. try chrooting your install and updateing grub. youcould also try installing lilo instead
[08:38] <wastrel> yes
[08:38] <fowlduck> Ademan, possibly
[08:38] <fowlduck> variant, already did that too :/
[08:38] <Ademan> this isnt a "production machine" but i like, do homework on it and whatnot
[08:38] <pip> unfo, how can I visit the old partition of my ubuntu
[08:38] <variant> fowlduck: lilo is less advanced but easy to use
[08:38] <Ademan> and i've been doing some coding as well
[08:38] <BeepAU> Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ...
[08:38] <fowlduck> variant, but didn't try lilo
[08:38] <BeepAU> [17179573.376000]  ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1]  C2[C2]  C3[C3] )
[08:38] <BeepAU> does that look familiar to anyone? I can't get my xubuntu machine to load up, thats where it stops.
[08:38] <pip> unfo, I installed it on /dev/hda2
[08:38] <Ademan> variant: i've always liked LILO a lot more than GRUB, having the bootloader mount a filesystem makes me feel dirty
[08:38] <unfo> pip: i have used those kinds of utilities before, and they work reliably. variant, do you want to take over and help pip through it?
[08:38] <variant> BeepAU: disable acpi at the grub prompt (i forget the exact command)
[08:39] <wastrel> it took me a while to convert to grub
[08:39] <variant> Ademan: grub is too powerfull to not like :P
[08:39] <BeepAU> variant: how do i do that? with the live cd?
[08:39] <wastrel> i like it now
[08:39] <arctictp> are their any sugestable voicechat linux progs?
[08:39] <variant> BeepAU: nah, press esc when ubuntu is booting at the first few seconds (where you see the press esc now thing) and then press c
[08:39] <pip> variant, i think it is better for me to do that just by reinstalling grub
[08:39] <unfo> arctictp: ekiga is the best one, but skype is easier to use.
[08:40] <arctictp> ic
[08:40] <arctictp> does it have an acessable userbase?
[08:40] <variant> pip: do what?
[08:40] <wastrel> anyone understand udev rules?
[08:40] <arctictp> @skype
[08:40] <BeepAU> variant: i'll give it a try
[08:40] <Ademan> variant: oh, i use it, its just i like the concept more, i mean, why in the hell should my bootloader need to first parse a text file, and THEN go and find itself the kernel, when you could just bake it into the binary
[08:40] <variant> unfo: help him do what?
[08:40] <ClayG> anyone here use pine?
[08:40] <unfo> variant: gpart
[08:40] <variant> unfo: personaly i prefer testdisk but gpart is fine too
[08:40] <wastrel> ClayG:  not if i can avoid it
[08:40] <variant> unfo: why would I take over?
[08:40] <cafuego> ClayG: My desk is pine
[08:40] <unfo> ClayG: no, thunderbird and mutt are more common nowadays.
[08:41] <BeepAU> variant: is it acpi=off?
[08:41] <variant> BeepAU: thats the one
[08:41] <highvoltage> cafuego: some people's mail clients are that
[08:41] <fowlduck> qtpart:)
[08:41] <BeepAU> variant: unrecognized command
[08:41] <unfo> variant: because i need to do homework
[08:41] <variant> BeepAU: be aware that your system wont do any powersaving with that option though and may overheat
[08:41] <fowlduck> partition magic? j/k j/k
[08:41] <variant> unfo: I am at work :P
[08:41] <BeepAU> variant: am i meant to combine it with something else or what?
[08:41] <unfo> BeepAU: does your computer crash right when
[08:41] <variant> BeepAU: linux acpi=off
[08:42] <Ademan> does the wine backports repository have an edgy section yet?
[08:42] <variant> BeepAU: add it to the command thats allready there
[08:42] <unfo> BeepAU: (oops, please ignore that line I just told you)
[08:42] <harmental> hi everybody...is there a standard folder to store jar files that are to be use as a regular piece of software?
[08:42] <variant> can somone remind me how to properly turn off acpi?
[08:42] <variant> at boot time
[08:42] <Ademan> i think its like noacpi=1 or something similar, but don't quote me on it, i could dig
[08:42] <SyberMile> ok i made it lol
[08:43] <rem64> hi all
[08:43] <SyberMile> hello
[08:43] <arctictp> it says ekiga is installed, does that suggest you need your own userbase?
[08:43] <wastrel> just noacpi i thought
[08:43] <BeepAU> variant: unrecognized command
[08:43] <unfo> does anyone here have time to help out pip to install and run a partition-table-rebuilding utility like testdisk or gpart?
[08:43] <rem64> hi siber how are u?
[08:43] <arctictp> are their any obtainablew chat scripts :)\\
[08:43] <arctictp> lol
[08:43] <cwillu> variant: there's 4 different commands that do slightly different things;  just search it on the wiki
[08:43] <variant> BeepAU: there should be a long string of commands by default
[08:43] <variant> cwillu: i just want BeepAU to disable acpi at boot
[08:43] <SyberMile> im good just gettin mad about this wpa2 crap it is drivin me nutts
[08:43] <BeepAU> variant: in grub?
[08:43] <Ademan> i found something like pci=noacpi but it specifically says NOT to do that so...
[08:43] <pip> unfo, i am going to reinstall my linux
[08:44] <unfo> pip: ok
[08:44] <variant> BeepAU: you need to add acpi=off to the end
[08:44] <variant> BeepAU: yeah
[08:44] <pip> unfo, because I think it will not be back anymore
[08:44] <variant> BeepAU: its really hard to explain these things when your on a windows box :)
[08:44] <sethk> pip, in the future, back up your partition table before making llpartition layout changes.
[08:44] <pip> so strage just it is
[08:44] <variant> SyberMile: its a pita to be sure
[08:44] <BeepAU> variant: the end of what? there's nothing there. i went esc when grub was loading, then pressed c like you said
[08:44] <pip> sethk, OK!
[08:45] <variant> BeepAU: ok, from memory you should be able to get the full string.. gah. wish i could remember
[08:45] <unfo> pip: but I recommend you do this first: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install gpart -y && sudo gpart /dev/hda ; echo $?
[08:45] <SyberMile> variant: ????
[08:45] <unfo> pip: if it works, it will tell you what to set your partition table to, in order to get back all your data.
[08:45] <variant> SyberMile: its a pain in the ass (wpa)
[08:45] <unfo> pip: it'll save you time i think.
[08:46] <pip> unfo, I am under the live CD
[08:46] <unfo> pip: thats OK
[08:46] <pip> yeah,I hope so
[08:46] <pip> wait
[08:46] <SyberMile> o ok yea i know that is the only thing holding me back from never useing windows agin
[08:47] <variant> BeepAU: press the e key
[08:47] <variant> BeepAU: esc then c to get grub command then e to edit the line
[08:47] <chuckyp> SyberMile, what is the only thing holding you back?
[08:47] <SyberMile> why is wpa not built in to the network manger?
[08:48] <variant> BeepAU: just add acpi=off at the end
[08:48] <SyberMile> chuckyp, WPA2
[08:48] <fowlduck> unfo, variant, I repartitioned and used a boot partition of less than 512 MB and the error went away.  It seems to be an initial BIOS limitation that can fairly easily be circumvented
[08:48] <chuckyp> SyberMile, ahhh  dunno why they didnt' build it in.  But you should be able to do it though.
[08:48] <variant> SyberMile: its a work in progress afaik
[08:48] <skylabs> sethk:  thx to helped me to set up my USB modem... now it work :)
[08:49] <unfo> fowlduck: cool.
[08:49] <variant> fowlduck: er, your boot partition shouldnt be more than 50 mb really
[08:49] <variant> fowlduck: its pointless
[08:49] <SyberMile> i have been trying to get it to work for over 3 weeks now i feel like kickin my pc in the nutts
[08:49] <chuckyp> SyberMile, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:49] <chuckyp> !wpa
[08:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:50] <SyberMile> ok i will try that
[08:51] <unfo> ubotu: no, wpa is <reply>For information on how to use the WPA wireless authentication system, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[08:51] <BeepAU> variant: ooh. looks like it's booting. thanks dude.
[08:51] <SyberMile> i like ubuntu but im thinkin about tryin ouot open suse
[08:51] <arctictp> ok, anyone know of any educational chatorroms?
[08:51] <skylabs> Hi, each time i boot i need to rmmod + modprobe ohci_hcd module to start my modem. How can i automate the process please ?
[08:51] <variant> BeepAU: great
[08:51] <arctictp> chatrroms*
[08:51] <fowlduck> variant, in "theory"
[08:51] <arctictp> beg my pardon
[08:51] <BeepAU> variant: yep, booted. thanks again.
[08:51] <unfo> arctictp: #off-topic or #academie
[08:51] <fowlduck> variant, but inevitably I'm lazy and never uninstall old kernels
[08:51] <fowlduck> variant, and they add up
[08:51] <arctictp> ty man
[08:51] <fnf> skylabs: Just put any commands you want to invoke at startup in /etc/rc.local
[08:51] <fowlduck> variant, but reall, I just had one large partition before
[08:52] <variant> fowlduck: you could use the ssytem for 100 years and not use 500mb
[08:52] <arctictp> i'm sick of search engines...
[08:52] <variant> fowlduck: i see
[08:52] <fowlduck> variant, i've exceeded 50 MB before, kernels aren't tremendously small
[08:52] <pip> unfo, the 3rd command does not work
[08:52] <skylabs> fnf:  with sudo ... nano ... etc ?
[08:52] <pip> do you point the gpart or gparted
[08:52] <fnf> skylabs: Yes
[08:52] <unfo> pip: it is gpart. error message?
[08:53] <variant> fowlduck: not with ubuntu no, thats true. I have used gentoo for a long time though and my kernels were 2mb or less :P
[08:53] <pip> yeah
[08:53] <skylabs> fnf:  thx a lot
[08:53] <pip> can not find that command
[08:53] <rem64> can i have a link to further application to ubuntu ?
[08:53] <hyperstream> just got a cheap wireless mouse. put the usb stick in and it detected the hud mouse in dmesg, yet i cannot use it is it possible to use both mouses at the same time link in doze?
[08:53] <unfo> pip: you need to set up universe then.
[08:53] <fowlduck> variant, actually, gentoo is where I exceeded 32 MB at one point, i believe
[08:53] <variant> fowlduck: and ubuntu uses initrd as well, so I suppose that does add up. 500mb is total overkill though :)
[08:54] <fowlduck> variant, with a 320 GB drive though, I'd rather overkill and not have to think about it! :D
[08:54] <variant> fowlduck: me too, but thats not the point. I had a ton of old kernels that were never going to see the light of day again
[08:54] <pip> unfo, how ?
[08:54] <variant> fowlduck: lol :P
[08:54] <arctictp> unfo wheres the mothership :[
[08:54] <arctictp> lol
[08:54] <arctictp> sh
[08:54] <chuckyp> SyberMile, also edgy has the wpa support built in to network-manager I believe
[08:54] <hyperstream> any idea's ?
[08:54] <chuckyp> !repos > pip
[08:55] <SyberMile> chuckyp, it is stableish?
[08:55] <pip> unfo, how to set up univser ?
[08:55] <damageDOne>  	/list
[08:55] <chuckyp> SyberMile, Well release canidate 1 is due out today.
[08:55] <arctictp> cheers for the heklp
[08:55] <variant> pip: add universe to the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <pip> wait
[08:56] <chuckyp> SyberMile, but you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1 to make sure I don' thave wireless on this box to check.
[08:56] <unfo> pip: see the first 3 steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:56] <fnf> hyperstream: It should, does it run if you unplug the 1st mouse ?
[08:56] <unfo> pip:     *
[08:56] <SyberMile> o ok cool i just got this dell e1405 best lappy i have ever owned
[08:56] <hyperstream> testing brb
[08:57] <fnf> hyperstream: good luck.
[08:57] <chuckyp> SyberMile, yeah they will know if its added I'm pretty sure it was.
[08:57] <rem64> sorry someone use vm ware workstation?
[08:57] <unfo> pip: just do the first 3 steps: Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties". You will have to enter your password here.  A list of repositories or "Channels" will be shown. Select "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (source)" from the list (should be the first one), click "Add...", select "non-free (multiverse)" and "community maintained (universe)" by clicking their check boxes. Now click the "add" button.  Click C
[08:57] <marshall>  id like to try out my php scripts before i upload them to my server, anybody know some good software for that?
[08:58] <unfo> marshall: apache and php
[08:58] <hyperstream> nvm its working
[08:58] <chuckyp> SyberMile, yeah it was
[08:58] <Healot> something like PHPeditor right?
[08:58] <unfo> rem64: i use vmware server, its free and has more features than workstation.
[08:58] <Healot> that still requires AP
[08:59] <variant> unfo: its gratis but not Free :)
[08:59] <unfo> variant: correct.
[08:59] <fowlduck> haha, this just in, ecstacy increases the number of dopamine producing cells during fetal development....just what we need, pregnant + ecstacy, too much emotion
[08:59] <chuckyp> !offtopic > fowlduck
[08:59] <SyberMile> chuckyp, how long have u been usin ubuntu?
[08:59] <variant> fowlduck: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[08:59] <unfo> marshall: install apache and php, then save the .php scripts to your apache directory, then go to http://localhost to see them
[08:59] <unfo> in action.
[08:59] <marshall> thanks
[08:59] <chuckyp> SyberMile, hrm... well I dunno few years
[09:00] <fowlduck> variant, emotional pregnant women are very ubuntu related.......ok, it was just funny
[09:00] <fnf> hyperstream: I just plugged another USB mouse, the two are running as h*ll, you may try in either X and console mode (gpm).
[09:00] <SyberMile> chuckyp, have you ever installed myth tv over it?
[09:00] <unfo> fowlduck: off-topic belongs in ##off-topic, #otw, or on irc://irc.efnet.org
[09:00] <michael> !codecs
[09:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <hyperstream> yeah its working thanks fnf  :) i failed to read docs that came with it . you have to press a button on mouse and on stick
[09:01] <chuckyp> SyberMile, No haven't installed mythtv in it but I've installed mythtv on other distros.  Shouldn't be all that hard.
[09:01] <unfo> pip: did it work?
[09:01] <chuckyp> SyberMile, I take that back i've installed the client side on my laptop to stream stuff off my other box.
[09:01] <pip> wait
[09:02] <leftjustified> hi, I've just done the first reboot on a 24hr old ubuntu dapper install and now it locks w/ black screen on startup of X. I can get into command prompt in recovery mode, but nothing else. Any suggestions? :)
[09:02] <pip> I am retyping your commands
[09:02] <skylabs> fnf: i see in rc.local that This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. So it's meaning that commands will be execute when i'll log out ?
[09:02] <unfo> pip: if you press the up arrow many times then Enter, it will retype the commands for you.
[09:02] <fnf> leftjustified: No experience on that, but did the logs say anything ?
[09:02] <variant> leftjustified: what sort of error output is there in xorg log?
[09:02] <SyberMile> chuckyp, i have 3 MCE boxs and 2 media servers im wanting to switch my whole network over to ubuntu
[09:02] <leftjustified> fnf: where can I look for these logs?
[09:02] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: you could check in the log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:03] <leftjustified> wicked, thankyou!
[09:03] <leftjustified> will ook now
[09:03] <unfo> SyberMile: note that mythtv takes a week to install and is harder to use than Media Center.
[09:03] <fnf> leftjustified: it's localted under /var/log: Xorg.{0,1}.log
[09:03] <MyGhetek> i need to make "drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root    4096 2006-10-17 18:38 egw" into "drwxr-xr-x  2 ghetek   ghetek    4096 2006-10-17 18:38 egw"
[09:03] <variant> unfo: pff, mythtv may be harder to set up but its certainly not harder to use
[09:03] <MyGhetek> how?
[09:03] <SyberMile> unfo, but im gettin really really sick of MS
[09:04] <variant> SyberMile: pff, mythtv may be harder to set up but its certainly not harder to use
[09:04] <unfo> SyberMile: also, it does not work with all TV tuner hardware. if you want to save time, ask in IRC channel #mythtv and ask them for advice on which is the best card to buy. then buy that exact one.
[09:04] <chuckyp> unfo, I don't think it takes a week to set up a mythtv box.
[09:04] <unfo> chuckyp: on the wrong hardware, it does.
[09:04] <variant> SyberMile: you could get it set up in a couple of hours np
[09:04] <SyberMile> i have a standalone box that does all that for me then i move them to my server
[09:04] <unfo> SyberMile: oops i mean #mythtv-users
[09:05] <chuckyp> SyberMile, the other thing to check out would be knoppmyth as well.  For atleast the box that interfaces with your cable.  But you are going to have a lot of learning to do.  (and frustration).
[09:05] <pip> unfo, haha
[09:05] <chuckyp> SyberMile, dunno how much into it you want to get.
[09:05] <pip> it is working
[09:05] <pip> scanning now
[09:06] <unfo> pip: excellent.
[09:06] <pip> unfo, wait
[09:06] <leftjustified> aha! "Error opening /dev/wacom" <-- so perhaps I should apt-get remove wacom drivers?
[09:06] <chuckyp> SyberMile, but using ubuntu and mythtv is a viable solution i guess.  I would do a server install though on the server box.
[09:06] <pip> please
[09:06] <chuckyp> leftjustified, removing those would get rid of ubuntu-desktop
[09:06] <eexpress> if anyone knows far cry can run under ubuntu?
[09:06] <SyberMile> chuckyp, well i just bought 6 linux books downloaded like 10 more and got my 1 5 ubuntu cd in the mail
[09:06] <variant> leftjustified: that wont be whats causing that.. every ubuntu user gets that because of the default xorg.conf settings
[09:06] <chuckyp> leftjustified, is that in your x log?
[09:06] <MyGhetek> Guys it would really help me if i can get some help with chown and/or chmod to make "drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root    4096 2006-10-17 18:38 egw" into "drwxr-xr-x  2 ghetek   ghetek    4096 2006-10-17 18:38 egw"
[09:06] <leftjustified> chuckyp: yes
[09:07] <Flannel> MyGhetek: what is egw?
[09:07] <fnf> leftjustified: No, I resume your box don't have wacom devices, you can just remove the relevant lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:07] <MyGhetek> Flannel: its egroupware
[09:07] <leftjustified> I have a wacom tablet, but I can go without
[09:07] <chuckyp> leftjustified, you can stop the drivers from loading by editing the xorg.conf and removing the stylus and eraser and wacom if you don't need them.   Also you have to delete those out of the screen section as well.
[09:07] <variant> leftjustified: really, its not that. there must be annother error. run this command: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[09:07] <chuckyp> leftjustified, oh well if you need them then no.
[09:07] <unfo> MyGhetek: sudo chown -R ghetek:ghetek egw
[09:07] <MyGhetek> Flannel: i tried what we did last time but its not working
[09:07] <Flannel> MyGhetek: (I'm not familiar with it) you sure you should be chowning it to yourself?
[09:07] <pip> unfo, how much time it will take
[09:08] <leftjustified> ok, will try your suggestion variant
[09:08] <chuckyp> leftjustified, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep EE
[09:08] <unfo> pip: between 2 and 60 minutes
[09:08] <pip> it had found my windows partition
[09:08] <pip> god
[09:08] <MyGhetek> Flannel: well i cant seem to ftp files to it
[09:08] <eexpress> i had finish doom3, now want found some games.... can give some advise???
[09:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know of a good quicken-like financial app?
[09:08] <chuckyp> eexpress, linux-gamers.net
[09:08] <MyGhetek> eexpress: BF2142 is awesome
[09:08] <variant> Corporal_Dirge: gnucash
[09:08] <chuckyp> Corporal_Dirge, yeah use quicken under wine
[09:09] <variant> Corporal_Dirge: make sur to get the development version of gnucash though
[09:09] <Corporal_Dirge> quicken != free
[09:09] <leftjustified> chuckyp, variant: no results from the grep
[09:09] <variant> Corporal_Dirge: quicken is proprietry, gnucash is free
[09:09] <Corporal_Dirge> Ok, thanks. I'll give that a shot. I tried another, but it didn't have .qif support.
[09:09] <chuckyp> Corporal_Dirge, thats the one app that is kind of hard to migrate from windows there isn't a viable alternative.
[09:09] <eexpress> thanks,.
[09:09] <variant> leftjustified: you should have at least have had the wacom errors showing up?
[09:09] <tnnc> anyone can answer an ? about coppermine please
[09:09] <chuckyp> tnnc, ask
[09:10] <leftjustified> variant: nope, it just wentstraight to a new line :-/
[09:10] <chuckyp> tnnc, if someone knows they will answer
[09:10] <variant> leftjustified: odd
[09:10] <SyberMile> i know CM
[09:10] <Bender_> crikey 825 people
[09:10] <Matii> Can Gparted resize a partition without losing data?
[09:10] <variant> leftjustified: if you run /etc/init.d/gdm start what do you get?
[09:10] <chuckyp> matti, what type of partition?
[09:10] <tnnc> ok i can upload photos to it but the photos are blur as thumbnails am i missing an settings
[09:10] <variant> Matii: yeah
[09:10] <ksmurf> http://pastebin.ca/209534 does this look OK?  It is for firefox
[09:10] <Matii> chuckyp: reiserfs
[09:10] <chuckyp> matti, Keep in mind you always run a risk of losing data when resizing partitions.
[09:10] <bo1> How do I change my resolution? It won't go up
[09:11] <Matii> chuckyp: But It can do it so it wont always erase the data?
[09:11] <chuckyp> bo1, what type of video card do you have?
[09:11] <unfo> Matii: always save all your data to blank CD or DVD before you resize, so if the worst-case scenario happens you'll still have your data.
[09:11] <variant> Matii: it should never erase the data
[09:11] <variant> Matii: but there is alwasy a risk
[09:11] <SyberMile> tnnc, so just the thumbnail is blurred and if you click on it it is ok?
[09:11] <Matii> Ok I know about the risk
[09:11] <chuckyp> Matii, yes it can do it.  But when resizing a partition you run a risk of losing data.  Thats why its good to back up necessary stuff first.
[09:12] <bo1> How do I change my resolution? It won't go up
[09:12] <Matii> chuckyp: theres only games ;D
[09:12] <tnnc> sybermile yes correct
[09:12] <unfo> Matii: also, i do not recommend reiserfs. ext3 is better.
[09:12] <chuckyp> bo1, what type of video card do you have?
[09:12] <SyberMile> tnnc, what version?
[09:12] <fnf> bo1: be specific please: you want high res in console or X ?
[09:12] <ksmurf> Corporal_Dirge try kmymoney if gnucash doesn't work for you
[09:12] <leftjustified> variant: that makes same result as when I stype 'startx' --> black screen and lockup
[09:12] <tnnc> the lastest 1.4.9
[09:12] <bo1> savage
[09:12] <bo1> x
[09:12] <SyberMile> tnnc, o ok cool 1 sec
[09:12] <chuckyp> leftjustified, what type of card do you have?
[09:13] <chuckyp> bol, did you try specifying your monitor?
[09:13] <Corporal_Dirge> ksmurf, I'm using Gnome though. Does KDE apps run in Gnome?
[09:13] <leftjustified> chuckyp: nvidia geforce 6600 GT -- perhaps I should remove all the nvidia drivers
[09:13] <fnf> leftjustified: try the equivalent: grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log and grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[09:13] <bo1> how do I do the pkg-add configure thing?
[09:13] <eexpress> chuckyp: i found SOF2, but where can i download a linux run file.
[09:13] <bo1> to specify
[09:13] <bo1> specs
[09:13] <ksmurf> Corporal_Dirge with the right libarys anything will run .... Even Kde apps
[09:13] <chuckyp> !resolution > bo1
[09:13] <leftjustified> fnf, ok, just gotta reboot
[09:14] <bo1> ?
[09:14] <chuckyp> bo1, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <unfo> pip: if it shows the correct data, then next do: sudo gpart -W /dev/hda
[09:14] <chuckyp> eexpress, ?
[09:14] <eexpress> Soldier of Fortune 2, i means chuckyp
[09:15] <chuckyp> leftjustified, are you using drivers from nvidia.com or nvidia-glx package?
[09:15] <SyberMile> tnnc, in your settings what did you set to resize the thubnail?
[09:15] <leftjustified> fnf: (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom  <-- 6 lines of that
[09:15] <pip> unfo, hi,scan over
[09:15] <tnnc> sybermile i am not sure i guess it is set at default
[09:15] <leftjustified> chuckyp: no idea, just ticked a box in synaptic :(
[09:15] <pip> unfo, then what data is correct ?
[09:16] <leftjustified> <-- *nix n00b :-/
[09:16] <pip> unfo, it show 4 partitions
[09:16] <SyberMile> tnnc, is it running on a remote server or on your persaonl server?
[09:16] <chuckyp> leftjustified, Can you post the x log to pastebin
[09:16] <unfo> pip: do they look approximately right?
[09:16] <fnf> leftjustified: Can you remove all the sections related to Wacom devices then try again ?.
[09:16] <leftjustified> certainly
[09:16] <pip> and the 3rd and 4th are not used
[09:16] <ksmurf> gnight all
[09:16] <tnnc> personal
[09:16] <fnf> leftjustified: ...in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <SyberMile> tnnc, linux or win?
[09:16] <pip> I think correct
[09:16] <leftjustified> chuckyp: actually, I can't post anything from that machine as it's restricted to command line :-/
[09:16] <unfo> pip: did you have 2 partitions, 1 win, 1 linux?
[09:16] <tnnc> sybermile ubuntu linux
[09:17] <pip> yeah
[09:17] <chuckyp> leftjustified, if you are trying to remove the wacom stuff there are two places you need to do it.
[09:17] <pip> and the C: for windows D: for linux
[09:17] <chuckyp> leftjustified, arghg is there any other errors besides wacom?
[09:17] <leftjustified> nope
[09:17] <chuckyp> leftjustified, okay did the system ever work?
[09:17] <pip> and e: f: for windows
[09:17] <pip> unfo, and e: f: for windows
[09:17] <leftjustified> chucky: yes, it's been running for nearly 24 hours, but this is the first time I've rebooted since install
[09:18] <leftjustified> chukyp: unfortunately I've installed over a GB of packages in that time so I have no idea which one may have caused this. doh!
[09:18] <chuckyp> leftjustified, and after rebooting you cant start X ?  What happened when you tried to "startx" ?
[09:18] <pip> the first partition scanned is a primary partition
[09:18] <leftjustified> chuckyp: black screen and lockup, no HDD activity
[09:19] <chuckyp> leftjustified, okay try lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:19] <SyberMile> tnnc, ok 1 of 2 problems 1 chmod are not set right or you need to lower the size of thumbnail
[09:20] <tnnc> sybermile thanks will check those two things out
[09:20] <damageDOne> The other day I upgraded to Dapper from Breezy and now I'm getting some sort of interference when any sounds play (mp3s, movies, mail alerts etc.). The interference comes on every second or two while whatever sound is playing. I did a cold restart the other day and the problem disappeared until I rebooted and then it came back. I have discovered that the problem does not exist within firefox or epiphany. I've tried the forums but I can't fi
[09:20] <mnepton> drive letters. how quaint.
[09:20] <unfo> pip: did it find all your windows partitions?
[09:20] <leftjustified> chuckyp: nvidia, i2c_core, agpgart
[09:20] <SyberMile> tnnc, ok let me know if that worked
[09:20] <chuckyp> leftjustified, okay which driver do you have specified in xorg.conf?
[09:20] <pip> unfo, the second is extended partition
[09:21] <pip> unfo, no
[09:21] <pip> unfo, it just shows the all 4 primary partitons
[09:21] <pip> no detail of the extended partion
[09:21] <unfo> pip: i don't understand. You originally had 1 linux and 3 windows partitions right?
[09:21] <SyberMile> is anyone running edgy elf?
[09:21] <pip> unfo, yeah
[09:21] <leftjustified> chuckyp: Driver: nvidia  Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV43"
[09:22] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm...
[09:22] <unfo> pip: and it found 1 linux and 3 windows right?
[09:22] <pip> I mean the command just showed me the 4 primary partions of which there are 2 are unused
[09:22] <chuckyp> leftjustified, and did you use automatix or easyubuntu?  Or just installed nvidia-glx via synaptic?
[09:22] <leftjustified> I'm going through an commenting out all wacom sections now...
[09:22] <pip> unfo, shall I give you the sreenshot
[09:22] <leftjustified> chuckyp: automatix
[09:22] <unfo> pip: ah. no, it's ok. hmmm...
[09:22] <chuckyp> ahhh
[09:22] <dcordes> hi there. what does it mean when my xserver can't run and says: Failed to load module "fglrx" (module req. mismatch,0) No drivers available? i installed the ati driver from ati.com because the kernel integrated ones won't work.
[09:22] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm....
[09:22] <pip> unfo, no need ?
[09:23] <chuckyp> leftjustified, automatix is not recomended for this stuff.
[09:23] <leftjustified> chuckyp: doh!
[09:23] <pip> unfo, do you understand ?
[09:23] <fnf> leftjustified: go ahead, btw, try temporarily use the 'nv' driver instead of 'nvidia'
[09:23] <leftjustified> chuckyp: how can I undo the evil?
[09:23] <SyberMile> dcordes, fglrx are ati drivers
[09:23] <leftjustified> fnf, ok will try now
[09:23] <unfo> pip: i am reading the manual page
[09:24] <leftjustified> shit, how do you save with pico
[09:24] <dcordes> SyberMile: yes i have an ati card. that's why i'm trying to install them.
[09:24] <chuckyp> leftjustified, yeah try nv first .  Removing the wacom stuff shouldn't really effect the issue.  I would be its an issue with your driver.
[09:24] <dcordes> now how can i check if my driver is installed properly?
[09:24] <SyberMile> dcordes, lol sorry didnt see the second line
[09:24] <unfo> pip: try: gpart -n s
[09:24] <unfo> oops
[09:24] <leftjustified> lol, "Fatel server error: no screen found"
[09:24] <unfo> pip: try: sudo gpart -n s /dev/hda
[09:24] <pip> unfo, yeah,you are right
[09:24] <chuckyp> leftjustified, yeah there's still some wacom stuff you forgot in the one part
[09:25] <leftjustified> I've obviously fucked up my xorg.conf, will fix it up
[09:25] <pip> the command shows my all 4 partitons
[09:25] <pip> 3 for windows and 1 for linux
[09:25] <pip> very correct
[09:25] <SyberMile> dcordes, did you change xserver.conf ?
[09:25] <dcordes> yep
[09:25] <pip> unfo, so what is the next?
[09:25] <unfo> pip: which command shows all 4?
[09:25] <SyberMile> dcordes, what ati card?
[09:25] <dcordes> 9600 pro
[09:25] <dcordes> pci
[09:25] <chuckyp> leftjustified, Section "ServerLayout"  There is more wacom and stylus stuff down there.
[09:25] <pip> unfo, gpart /dev/hda
[09:26] <dcordes> err sorry radeon 9600 pro, agp
[09:26] <pip> unfo, so what is the next step ?
[09:26] <unfo> pip: if it didn't show all 3 windows partitions before, then why would it do so now?
[09:26] <pip> unfo, yeah,it showed all 3 windows partions
[09:26] <pip> c : e : and f:
[09:27] <unfo> pip: the next step is sudo gpart -W /dev/hda
[09:27] <pip> and D : is for linux now
[09:27] <SyberMile> dcordes, same one im useing
[09:27] <SyberMile> dcordes, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-74934.html
[09:27] <unfo> pip: then reboot. if it doesn't start the Grub bootloader, you need to reinstall Grub next.
[09:27] <pip> unfo, I tried ,but -W does not work
[09:27] <leftjustified> Ok, just started up with "nv" listed as driver -- complete visual freakout... *hits reboot* wow, now the machine actually shut itself off when trying to boot X
[09:27] <unfo> pip: error message please?
[09:27] <damageDOne> Does anyone have any ideas on why I might be getting interference in my sound after upgrading to Dapper from Breezy?
[09:28] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm...  well sudo rmmod nvidia  then try startx with "nv" driver
[09:28] <dcordes> SyberMile: i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after installing the packages from the ati.com installer then i did what they say in the wiki under binary drivers ati. aticonfig --initial and another aticonfig command... then after reboot it gives me this error
[09:28] <dcordes> SyberMile: nice. did you experience a similar problem with your one?
[09:28] <dts> i am just installing mongrel (a little deamon programm) on my computer. How would i make sure the daemon is started like the other services, eg write the proper init scripts for it?
[09:29] <unfo> pip: try this one: sudo gpart /dev/hda -W /dev/hda
[09:29] <leftjustified> chuckyp: startx with nv causes total visual freakout
[09:29] <pip> OK: )
[09:29] <chuckyp> leftjustified, what do you mean visual freakout?
[09:29] <leftjustified> chuckyp: blocks and lines, frozen
[09:29] <fnf> leftjsutified: not sure what's causing your problem but it's usually a good idea not to load 'dri' and 'glx' modules with 'nv' driver.
[09:29] <dcordes> SyberMile: can you suggest a good command line http browser? i don't want to reconfigure x just to read this thread..
[09:29] <unfo> dts: what is mongrel? and are there .deb packages for it?
[09:29] <chuckyp> leftjustified, do you have another os on this system?
[09:29] <dts> unfo: no, it's a ruby based server tool
[09:30] <leftjustified> chuckyp: nope, clean install of ubuntu only
[09:30] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm....
[09:30] <unfo> dts: oh.
[09:30] <chuckyp> leftjustified, alright try locate NVIDIA
[09:30] <leftjustified> can I tell X to reconfigure itself?
[09:30] <unfo> dts: look at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[09:30] <chuckyp> leftjustified, yeah
[09:30] <SyberMile> dcordes, i remeber i had to fix the xorg.conf
[09:30] <fnf> leftjustified: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:30] <unfo> dts: but i don't know if that applies to ruby-based server tools.
[09:30] <pip> unfo, scanning now
[09:31] <dcordes> i'm looking for a command line browser. anybody?
[09:31] <leftjustified> ok, will try both suggestions, thanks for you help chuckyp and fnf :)
[09:31] <unfo> pip: when it's done, reboot. if it doesn't start the Grub bootloader, you need to reinstall Grub next.
[09:31] <SyberMile> dcordes, sorry im not that far in to linux yet
[09:31] <pip> unfo, tell me please ,after this step ,what to do then ?
[09:31] <chuckyp> leftjustified, I was saying the only other thing to maybe try would be to remove the driver automatix installed.  Then give it a go.  But I'm betting your video card is probably having some issues on a hardware level.  Because I just had this happen to me the other day and my video memeory was shot.
[09:31] <pip> unfo, you mean the step doing now should reinstall the Grub bootloader ?
[09:31] <unfo> dcordes: elinks is best, otherwise use lynx, links, or links2
[09:31] <wastrel> w3m
[09:32] <leftjustified> chuckyp: the card is only ~3 months old
[09:32] <chuckyp> leftjustified, mine was only 2 months old
[09:32] <DarkPhat> hey i need some help , with ubuntu
[09:32] <leftjustified> damn
[09:32] <chuckyp> leftjustified, evga 7600GS
[09:32] <nrdb> can the gfax fax printer be used via lpr etc.?
[09:32] <mnepton> dcordes: w3m is installed in the base Ubuntu install
[09:32] <damageDOne> I'm looking for help on sound problems after upgrading to Dapper.
[09:32] <DarkPhat> can anyone help me out ??
[09:32] <chuckyp> leftjustified, but I would try a live cd and see if you get lockups etc...
[09:32] <unfo> pip: reboot your PC. see if it works. if not, try reinstalling Grub.
[09:33] <pip> unfo, OK
[09:33] <chuckyp> !ask DarkPhat
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask DarkPhat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <wastrel> command line browser doesn't necessarily mean web browser
[09:33] <chuckyp> !ask > DarkPhat
[09:33] <DarkPhat> ok well is there anyway i can join in as root in file manager
[09:33] <fnf> DarkPhat: yes, you can be helped (seriously, be more specific)
[09:33] <anilomkar> every time i loggin into Ubuntu i am getting this error "File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/deskbar/ui/cuemiac/Cuemiac.py", line 667, in on_change_background,    style.bg_pixmap[gtk.STATE_NORMAL]  = pixmap, TypeError: can only assign a GdkPixmap or None" please help me
[09:33] <fnf> DarkPhat: sudo nautilus
[09:33] <chuckyp> DarkPhat, gksudo nautilus
[09:34] <Matii> Can someone help me
[09:34] <chuckyp> !ask > Matii
[09:34] <unfo> DarkPhat: is english your native language? we can help you in more than 20 different languages.
[09:34] <Corporal_Dirge> Ug, GNUCash crashes. some kind of XML Perl parser.
[09:34] <DarkPhat> lol
[09:34] <mnepton> unfo: not on this channel you can't ;)
[09:34] <chuckyp> anilomkar, do you have some sort of wallpaper rotation?
[09:34] <DarkPhat> yeah english my native language
[09:34] <unfo> Corporal_Dirge: send in a bug report, then try grisbi or kmymoney2
[09:34] <Corporal_Dirge> konichiwa
[09:35] <Matii> I love ubuntu, but I want to play too, wine and cedega sucks cos games run slow so is there another way to play windows games in ubuntu?
[09:35] <Corporal_Dirge> I think the issue is with perl.
[09:35] <unfo> Corporal_Dirge: note: kmymoney2 takes half an hour to install by modem.
[09:35] <damageDOne> Can someone help me? and chuckyup: !say "!ask > DamagedDOne"
[09:35] <chuckyp> Matii, wine isn't slow here.
[09:35] <mnepton> Corporal_Dirge: "konnichi-wa" ;)
[09:35] <unfo> mnepton: i know :)
[09:35] <anilomkar> chuckyp, when i am trying to increase the transperancy of my panel then it is giving this error.
[09:35] <leftjustified> craptaculr. Reconfigured X, still same result. chuckyp: how would I go about removing the crap automatix installed?
[09:35] <DarkPhat> so within terminal if i type sudo nautilus i will be able to change files without any problems of privilages an such ...
[09:35] <Corporal_Dirge> mnepton, Technically, it's konichiha.
[09:35] <unfo> Corporal_Dirge: do you know how to file bugs?
[09:35] <chuckyp> Matii, or find games that run natively in linux.  Like unreal / doom / quake
[09:36] <chuckyp> anilomkar, hrm... dunno
[09:36] <Corporal_Dirge> unfo, Nope, I've run into hundreds of bugs. I'm too tired of them to report.
[09:36] <Matii> But I want play wow, cs 1.6 and some other games >fast<
[09:36] <unfo> Matii: what kinds of games do you like best? arcade (e.g. tetris, BomberMan, etc.)? racing? platform? RPG?
[09:36] <Matii> Knowing that they work when I launch them
[09:36] <chuckyp> leftjustified, well I wonder if it keeps a log  check in /var/log/  for automatix
[09:36] <Matii> unfo: Well maybe I play most RPG
[09:36] <leftjustified> chuckyp: will check it out...
[09:36] <unfo> Corporal_Dirge: ok, just know if you dont file a bug the problem wont get fixed.
[09:37] <chuckyp> leftjustified, Do you still have the install cd?
[09:37] <leftjustified> yes
[09:37] <damageDOne> Um... THANKS for ALL the help
[09:37] <arctictp> you guys know howto change sever in skype?
[09:37] <chuckyp> leftjustified, well try booting that livecd up and make sure that you don't have like artifacts or anything goofy going on.
[09:37] <cpk2> Matii: wine might work for wow but will require some work to get working, if you want programs to "just work" more often than not or to require very little work you might want to look into cedega
[09:37] <leftjustified> chuckyp: oh crap, my machine just reboot when I chose "recovery mode" :-/ hahaa
[09:37] <leftjustified> this thing is fried :|
[09:38] <chuckyp> leftjustified, Yeah definatelly hardware related now.
[09:38] <arctictp> naw
[09:38] <chuckyp> leftjustified, err.  well Atleast try the livecd to make sure.
[09:38] <Corporal_Dirge> unfo, I think it's just crashing because perl doesn't have something it needs, but the error is vague.... looking at ths source the dev sends all messages to null. lol
[09:38] <s_spiff> anyone having problems with gaim 2.0 beta 3? like msn cannot connect giving an error sayin some SSL library needed?
[09:38] <leftjustified> chuckyp: ok, liveCD in now... *crosses fingers*
[09:39] <chuckyp> leftjustified, yeah see if it reboots or locks up brb need a smoke.
[09:39] <leftjustified> me too!!!
[09:39] <Corporal_Dirge> /usr/bin/perl -e "require XML::Parser"  is giving me the message that I'm missing:  XML/Parser.pm in @INC
[09:39] <Matii> cpk2: Yes, cedega installed Steam and cs worked for first time but its so freaking slow
[09:40] <pip> unfo, hi
[09:40] <damageDOne> Can anyone actually see my messages? I've seen two people come in and ask stupid questions in semi-broken English and they got responded to straight away. But no one is responding to me at all.
[09:40] <Corporal_Dirge> I enjoy programming, but I'm really tired of having to deal with bad code.
[09:40] <pip> unfo, it ask if I want to edit thte table
[09:40] <Merjin> no, we can't see it damageDOne
[09:40] <pip> unfo, just reboot or ...?
[09:40] <unfo> Matii: these are some of the rpgs in ubuntu: adonthell,arkhart,balazar,egoboo,gearhead, and ire but some require Universe. see the first section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu, its called "Adding the Universe and Multiverse Repositories"
[09:40] <unfo> pip: no, dont reboot, save the changes first.
[09:40] <unfo> pip: you dont need to edit but you do need to save
[09:41] <Matii> unfo: I'm not 1st-timer ;)
[09:41] <pip> unfo, but i need type y or n
[09:41] <Corporal_Dirge> unfo, Does Ubuntu have any MMORPGs? =)
[09:41] <unfo> Matii: oh :)
[09:41] <pip> unfo, OK
[09:41] <damageDOne> Merjin: I'm having trouble with sound after upgrading from Breezy to Dapper.
[09:41] <unfo> Corporal_Dirge: crossfire is onw
[09:41] <unfo> *one
[09:41] <Corporal_Dirge> free? populated?
[09:41] <yuan> hi, plz tell
[09:41] <Merjin> damageDOne > sorry, I only used dapper and I'm just a noob
[09:41] <Matii> Corporal_Dirge: there is planeshift
[09:41] <unfo> pip: i think the right answer is n
[09:42] <unfo> Corporal_Dirge: free, dunno how populated.
[09:42] <Merjin> is there a central place to change font size for applications?
[09:42] <unfo> never played it.
[09:42] <pip> unfo, and it asks : active [1-4]  partition:
[09:42] <Acke_ubu> Hey guys... Im stuck on windows.. Im a developer and i have to use drivers from sony-ericsson to connect the mobile phoen to my computer while developing.. so is there an emulator i can run to use a linux desktop while being in windows??
[09:42] <pip> unfo, I chose 1
[09:42] <unfo> pip: choose the linux partition number
[09:42] <pip> sorry
[09:42] <damageDOne> Merjin: system>preferences>font
[09:43] <Merjin> thanks
[09:43] <unfo> Acke_ubu: http://www.vmware.com/products/server
[09:43] <Matii> How slow is vmware?
[09:43] <pip> but I have choosen the windows partition
[09:43] <unfo> Matii: not bad
[09:43] <pip> rechoose ?
[09:43] <chuckyp> leftjustified, any luck with the livecd?
[09:43] <Acke_ubu> unfo, freeware?
[09:43] <unfo> pip: can you?
[09:43] <pip> wait
[09:43] <Matii> unfo: Could I play it?
[09:43] <unfo> Acke_ubu: yes, though it expires every so often
[09:43] <unfo> Matii: yes
[09:43] <leftjustified> chuckyp: both the live CD and the cigarette worked fine ;)
[09:43] <Acke_ubu> unfo whats the expire period?
[09:43] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm.... now to figure out what got borked.
[09:43] <Matii> unfo: faster than with wine or cedega?
[09:44] <pip> unfo, no ,I can not
[09:44] <chuckyp> leftjustified, you can't even boot to recovery mode?
[09:44] <unfo> Acke_ubu: i think it expires every time a new version comes out.
[09:44] <pip> unfo, I rescan now
[09:44] <leftjustified> chuckyp: nope
[09:44] <unfo> pip: ok
[09:44] <pip> unfo, does it matter ?
[09:44] <Acke_ubu> unfo, okay thanks
[09:44] <pip> unfo, I chose the wrong number
[09:44] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm...  Due you have data you are worried about?
[09:44] <leftjustified> chuckyp: can't mount drive either -- "error device /dev/sda1 is not removable .. could not execute pmount"
[09:45] <unfo> pip: sorry to hear, you may want to rescan and choose the linux partition.
[09:45] <Nothing_About> hey i need some help with ubuntu ...
[09:45] <leftjustified> chuckyp: only the 1GB+ of d/l'ed packages
[09:45] <unfo> pip: i have to go unfortunately... if you need more help, www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:45] <unfo> pip: all the experts hang out there
[09:45] <unfo> pip: good luck
[09:45] <leftjustified> chuckyp: luckily my data is on another drive that isn't plugged in
[09:45] <Nothing_About> i try and copy and paste a file adon within file system but it keep saying i need some kind of privilages to copy and paste that file
[09:46] <chuckyp> leftjustified, are you mounting with sudo?
[09:46] <Nothing_About> my question is how can i have sudo privilages within my file manager
[09:46] <chuckyp> Nothing_About, gksudo nautilus
[09:46] <leftjustified> chuckyp: nope, just Places > COmputer
[09:46] <nrdb> can the gfax fax printer be used via lpr etc.?
[09:47] <chuckyp> Nothing_About, hit alt+f2 and type in sudo nautilus that will open up a file manager window with root privleges for the time being.
[09:47] <unfo> Nothing_About: that is because of unix's built-in security, which protects you from viruses. the quick fix is: Alt+F2 then: gksudo nautilus
[09:47] <leftjustified> chuckyp: just trying to switch to ubuntu for my main machine after my XP sys ended in this: http://flickr.com/photos/andrew_k/272195356/
[09:47] <unfo> Nothing_About: the proper fix that will last for years is to fix the file permissions.
[09:47] <chuckyp> Nothing_About, err gksudo nautilus
[09:47] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:47] <leftjustified> ...lucky I have this ubuntu laptop or I'd be totally screwed
[09:47] <unfo> Nothing_About: well, maybe not years but it'll last for longer.
[09:48] <unfo> Nothing_About: at least weeks :)
[09:48] <Nothing_About> ok because i thought that there might have been a root admin file manager somewhere
[09:48] <chuckyp> leftjustified, ouch
[09:48] <Nothing_About> that i can access and just type my password
[09:48] <chuckyp> Nothing_About, yeah just type your password
[09:48] <chuckyp> !gksudo > Nothing_About
[09:48] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm... Well this is why I don't like automatix
[09:48] <chuckyp> !automatix
[09:49] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[09:49] <Nothing_About> ok thnxz for that help
[09:49] <chuckyp> leftjustified, the only thing to try might be to ask in #automatix
[09:49] <Nothing_About> now i can update some stuff
[09:49] <leftjustified> good idea, chuckyp, will check it out now. thanks for all your help
[09:49] <Psychobudgie> flash 9 beta is out for linux
[09:49] <Psychobudgie> woo yay
[09:49] <chuckyp> leftjustified, other than that I would maybe try reinstalling and adding software the normal way
[09:49] <chuckyp> Psychobudgie, yeap works well too.
[09:50] <Psychobudgie> synced audio!
[09:50] <Psychobudgie> yay
[09:50] <leftjustified> chuckyp: indeed. I had none of these problems using apt-get to install everything on my lappy :(
[09:50] <suspectkboss> anyone here tried using jackfield?
[09:50] <nrdb> Nothing_About: try 'gksudo nautilus', you can allways put an icon to do this if its what you want.
[09:50] <mike> hey, how do i set up gcc on ubuntu so i can compile c programs?
[09:50] <chuckyp> leftjustified, but they may no a way to undo stuff.
[09:50] <chuckyp> !gcc > mike
[09:50] <mike> i don't know how to get the standard c libraries
[09:51] <mike> i have gcc installed
[09:51] <Flannel> mike: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:51] <leftjustified> chuckyp: there are only 4 ppl in there. heh
[09:51] <nrdb> Mike: you will need to install build-esentials
[09:51] <chuckyp> leftjustified, hrm... :(
[09:52] <nrdb> !gcc > nrdb
[09:52] <mike> thanks, that worked
[09:52] <Flannel> leftjustified: And don't tell them we sent you either, they wont help you.  Really your best bet is to backup and reinstall and not use automatix, you can see !backup for a lot of easy ways to back up your stuff
[09:52] <chuckyp> leftjustified, heres a usefull link http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Uninstalling_Software
[09:52] <leftjustified> hahaa, ok Flannel
[09:52] <chuckyp> leftjustified, for removing software that automatix installed from terminal
[09:53] <leftjustified> thanks chuckyp, that's what I'm after!
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me how one would go about starting a translation team?
[09:54] <chuckyp> tonyyarusso, well probably join the comunity
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> chuckyp: Erm, that there's a tad vague.  Could you elaborate?
[09:55] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: that's probably a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic, or ... if there's a translation channel, thatd be even better
[09:55] <chuckyp> Wow this techno version of mr. brightside on pulsradio.com sucks   (sorry for the off topic) but its horrible.
[09:55] <leftjustified> hahaa, the only uninstall option automatix wiki has nothing on is the nvidia stuff. weeee
[09:56] <jspiro> hi all, i am trying to recover from a crashed installer. the only user on this machine is root. i want to create a user. what should its uid be: 999 or 1000?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: I'll see if I can find one.
[09:57] <jspiro> could someone here type this into a terminal:
[09:57] <jspiro> id
[09:57] <tnnc> sybermile you still around
[09:57] <jspiro> and tell me what their uid number is?
[09:58] <leftjustified> !backup
[09:58] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:59] <jspiro> leftjustified: just burn all your important files to a cd. Keep the CD at work or at a friend's house in case of fire or other disaster. You may want to back up your "dotfiles" too, they contain important preferences.
[10:00] <jspiro> could someone here type this into a terminal:
[10:00] <jspiro> id
[10:00] <RichEd> main, universe, multi-verse: where can I find an explanation of how these fit together which I can pass on to an average end user ?
[10:00] <jspiro> and tell me what their uid number is?
[10:00] <leftjustified> jspiro: burn from command line?
[10:00] <jspiro> leftjustified: no, use a cd burning tool.
[10:01] <tnnc> sybermile are you still around
[10:01] <leftjustified> jspiro: I have my important data backed up, but I'm about to reinstall ubuntu for the second time in 24hours and was hoping to save some of the bigger downloads, such as VMWare server
[10:01] <chuckyp> leftjustified, you need to burn something from command line?
[10:01] <jspiro> RichEd: Is this easy enough? http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[10:02] <leftjustified> chuckyp: there's a 101MB tar.gz on my desktop I'd like to grab...
[10:02] <leftjustified> chuckyp: I've already used 15% of my monthly quota in a day... every bit counts ;)
[10:02] <chuckyp> leftjustified, yeah use cdrecord
[10:02] <RichEd> jspiro: you are a star ... thanks !
[10:02] <leftjustified> cool, thankyou
[10:03] <jspiro> leftjustified: if you do this it will reformat your hard drive: sudo mkdir /z && sudo mv vmware*.tar.gz /z && sudo rm -rf /[a-y] *
[10:03] <jspiro> leftjustified: you will probably then need to pull the plug, your ubuntu installation will be completely destroyed. Then rerun the installer.
[10:03] <leftjustified> *sigh*
[10:03] <s_spiff> any1 knows how to resolve gaimbeta4/4 problem? my msn doesnt connect givin an error sayin a ssl library is needed.. etc. etc
[10:04] <chuckyp> s_spiff, i'm sure the gaim people do
[10:04] <jspiro> leftjustified: When you are using the installer, do NOT choose the Reformat checkmark. Remove the checkmark from the box. Then the /z directory will still be there.
[10:04] <Acke_ubu> Hey i need a smaller linux distro something like 100-200 mb, any ideas?
[10:04] <chuckyp> Acke_ubu, DSL
[10:04] <s_spiff> chuckyp, umm wher can i get them? any channel for that?
[10:04] <davvs_> how do i get the nv driver?
[10:05] <leftjustified> ok, thanks jspiro
[10:05] <chuckyp> s_spiff, i dunno #gaim or ##gaim i'm sure is here.
[10:05] <chuckyp> !video > davvs
[10:05] <Acke_ubu> chuckyp, thats like a litle bit to small. dont want a damn small distro. just a litle bit smaller then a full cd really
[10:05] <chuckyp> davvs_, the nv driver should be installed by default
[10:05] <chuckyp> Acke_ubu, well ubuntu fits on a cd.
[10:06] <chuckyp> Acke_ubu, you could remove some stuff as well and save some space.
[10:06] <jspiro> leftjustified: note: the command "sudo mkdir /z && sudo mv vmware*.tar.gz /z && sudo rm -rf /[a-y] *" won't work unless you type it from the proper directory.~
[10:06] <Acke_ubu> chuckyp, yeah, i suppose
[10:06] <ice_1963> Acke_ubu: so use blackbox that's what i have on my pII :)
[10:06] <davvs_> thanks chuckyp
[10:06] <suspectkboss> how do i run .wmv videos?
[10:06] <Matii> can someone help me installing vmware
[10:06] <jspiro> leftjustified: i recommend you just fix the problem instead of reinstalling :)
[10:06] <Acke_ubu> ice_1963, i run fluxbox
[10:06] <chuckyp> !codecs > suspectkboss
[10:07] <chuckyp> !vmware > Matii
[10:07] <ice_1963> Acke_ubu: ok
[10:07] <leftjustified> jspiro: hahahaaaaaa,what a lovely suggestion. can't believe I hadn't thought of that already!</sarcasm>
[10:07] <Acke_ubu> well the thing is i dont need a small installed distro but an easy downloadable with a desent selection fo apps for install later
[10:07] <jspiro> leftjustified: it will save you time, and it will gain you valuable experience.
[10:07] <jspiro> leftjustified: so it may be painful to fix the problem now but it is worth it in the long run :)
[10:07] <chuckyp> Acke_ubu, are you trying to save time downloading?
[10:08] <Acke_ubu> chuckyp, eys
[10:08] <jspiro> Acke_ubu: use the alternate or netinstall CD
[10:08] <leftjustified> jspiro: I've been trying desperately to fix it. I've reconfigured X, apt-get remove'ed everything to do with nvidia and my system still dies as soon as X tries to start
[10:08] <Acke_ubu> jspiro, sounds good
[10:08] <chuckyp> jspiro, alternate is a full iso.
[10:08] <jspiro> chuckyp: oh
[10:08] <Acke_ubu> darn
[10:08] <jspiro> Acke_ubu: use the netinstall CD
[10:08] <ice_1963> Acke_ubu: i'm runing Gnome Etch on this Box
[10:08] <chuckyp> and netinstall you would just be downloading the packages later
[10:08] <zoCy> i need some codecs to see movies, where can I get ?
[10:09] <jspiro> leftjustified: you need a Linux User Group. may I ask what city you live in and the nearest big university?
[10:09] <chuckyp> !codecs > zoCy
[10:09] <Acke_ubu> ice_1963, gnome etch havnt heard of it. whats taht?
[10:09] <Acke_ubu> !etch
[10:09] <lucasvo> hello
[10:09] <whazilla> hey
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <jspiro> lucasvo: whazilla: hi
[10:09] <Acke_ubu> !gnomeetch
[10:09] <chuckyp> jspiro, his system is pretty borked
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomeetch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <suspectkboss> ahh, done
[10:09] <chuckyp> jspiro, via automatix
[10:09] <suspectkboss> thanks
[10:09] <ice_1963> Acke_ubu: Debian
[10:09] <lucasvo> etch is the new debian.
[10:09] <jspiro> chuckyp: oh :(
[10:09] <Acke_ubu> ice_1963, aah
[10:09] <whazilla> i was wondering i mangled my lmocal hoist list as a result can't use sudo or su
[10:10] <Acke_ubu> ooh version number on knew debian_
[10:10] <whazilla> how to fix it ?
[10:10] <Acke_ubu> ?
[10:10] <Acke_ubu> new*
[10:10] <ice_1963> 2.14
[10:10] <chuckyp> Acke_ubu, well you could do a server install of ubuntu but you would still need the iso first.
[10:10] <chuckyp> if you did a debian netinstall they even have a 7mb iso for installation.  Then you select the packages you want.
[10:10] <leftjustified> jspiro: I live in Brisbane, Australia; my nearest big university is the one I'm a developer for :)
[10:11] <ajmitch> leftjustified: lucky you, you've got HUMBUG :)
[10:11] <chuckyp> leftjustified, because automatix did a such a wonderfull job I would just reinstall.  use cdrecord to backup your vmware if you want.
[10:11] <chuckyp> leftjustified, but i'm sure its fixable if you got a hold of someone at #automatix
[10:12] <chuckyp> leftjustified, or someone with more knowledge.
[10:12] <lucasvo> somebody can help me with my system? I was updating it. and suddenly it took me about 20seconds to start a new process(such as vim) I tried to reboot, but it didn't boot up. Now I put in a live cd and tried to chroot to my partition on my hd. whihc is running for about 5min
[10:12] <jspiro> Acke_ubu: oops i realize there is no netinstall cd
[10:12] <leftjustified> chuckyp: that may be the only option... I wish I hadn't configured apache+postgres+sqlite2+mysql5+mod_python+subversion+trac + shitloads of stuff first though ;)
[10:12] <Flannel> !tell Acke_ubu about install
[10:12] <Flannel> Acke_ubu: that page goes over the various ubuntu install methods (including netinstall)
[10:12] <suspectkboss> when i start ubuntu, in the sessions dialog there is a session called "foo". what's up with that?
[10:13] <chuckyp> leftjustified, well one thing you may want to consider is making a seperate /home or /etc partition that way most your configurations would be saved.
[10:13] <chuckyp> !foo
[10:13] <ubotu> foo is bar
[10:13] <chuckyp> lol
[10:13] <BrianG> !nvidia
[10:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <suspectkboss> it;s fubar
[10:13] <same> who can help me ! please
[10:13] <leftjustified> chuckyp: yes, I think a seperate partition for /etc would be most advantagous
[10:13] <zoCy> chuckyp, I am new to ubuntu and linux, ca you give me more details please ?
[10:13] <suspectkboss> how do i remove it?
[10:13] <chuckyp> !ask > same
[10:13] <lucasvo> jspiro: there is one
[10:14] <jspiro> lucasvo: where?
[10:14] <same> i can write user chinese
[10:14] <jspiro> same: i can write french and hungarian
[10:14] <chuckyp> zoCy, give you more details to do what?
[10:14] <lucasvo> jspiro: I installed my pc using netinstall
[10:14] <jspiro> same: do you only speak chinese?
[10:14] <zoCy> chuckyp, to install codecs to see movies
[10:14] <suspectkboss> how do i remove a session from that option dialog?
[10:14] <same> no
[10:14] <ice_1963> nvidia is so easy to install in ubuntu
[10:14] <chuckyp> zoCy, did you follow the instructions from ubotu?
[10:15] <jspiro> !zh
[10:15] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:15] <zoCy> chuckyp, yes but I don't understand, i am new to linux
[10:15] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, on the gdm screen?
[10:15] <same> but my boss ask me to write a document use chinese
[10:15] <ajmitch> leftjustified: please, never do a separate partition for /etc
[10:15] <suspectkboss> in the screen where i enter my username and passwd
[10:15] <chuckyp> !codecs
[10:15] <same> i had choose the luaguge ---chinese
[10:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <chuckyp> zoCy, those directions ^^^^^^^^^^
[10:16] <chuckyp> zoCy, the restricted formats page.
[10:16] <leftjustified> ajmitch: why? (me ==n00b)
[10:16] <suspectkboss> if i click the little sessions option, i get  list and there's a session called "foo" over there which crashes if i start it
[10:16] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, hold up i'm looking
[10:16] <jspiro> suspectkboss: so dont start it :)
[10:16] <ajmitch> leftjustified: your system will be unbootable - /etc is required to be on the root filesystem, since it's required for booting
[10:16] <s_spiff> how do i check the dependencies for a particular package? the package in question here is Gaim beta 3...
[10:16] <suspectkboss> yes, but fishy, isn't it?
[10:16] <lucasvo> jspiro: but I can't find the iso :(
[10:16] <same> i had choose the luaguge ---chinese
[10:16] <jspiro> suspectkboss: dapper or edgy? ubuntu or kubuntu? anything else unusual?
[10:16] <leftjustified> ajmitch: rofl, good reason!
[10:16] <chuckyp> s_spiff, apt-cache showpkg gaim
[10:16] <suspectkboss> dapper. + kde
[10:17] <ice_1963> to install nvidia-glx use synaptic then do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pik nvidia that's it
[10:17] <s_spiff> chuckyp, thanks
[10:17] <same> i had choose the luaguge ---chinese
[10:17] <jspiro> suspectkboss: dunno.
[10:17] <suspectkboss> and i tried installing compiz+xgl a few days back
[10:17] <jspiro> same: do you speak chinese well?
[10:17] <suspectkboss> that might have something to do with it
[10:17] <same> i had choose the luaguge -chinese but i press ctrl + space
[10:18] <jspiro> same: i cannot understand. go here:
[10:18] <jspiro> !zh
[10:18] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:18] <same> there is nothing to happend
[10:18] <Delano> Hey all
[10:18] <Delano> I have a few questions
[10:18] <Delano> :oD
[10:19] <zoCy> chuckyp: i want to play .avi and .mpeg files
[10:19] <bun-bun> !ask
[10:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:19] <chuckyp> suspectkboss, no idea i'm looking throught he config files for gdm would be the place to check.  /etc/gdm
[10:19] <leftjustified> "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X Driver not found)"  <-- could that be causing the lockup?
[10:19] <windwalker78> Can somebody help with Reiserfs and somebad sectors pls
[10:19] <Delano> How do I edit the BRUG bootloader?
[10:19] <jspiro> leftjustified: i would try to google for: brisbane linux user group
[10:19] <Delano> GRUB
[10:19] <bun-bun> !grub
[10:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:19] <suspectkboss> ok
[10:19] <jspiro> Delano: grub?
[10:19] <Delano> Thanks
[10:19] <chuckyp> leftjustified, where did you get that error?
[10:20] <ice_1963> i don't know how to read that :)
[10:20] <Delano> Do you recommend LILO?
[10:20] <jspiro> leftjustified: also, ask the undergraduate secretary at your school's computer science dept. if there's a linux club or computer club. or ask Student Affairs / the club coordinator.
[10:20] <same> thank you ! I turn to the web now
[10:20] <bun-bun> does anyone use ypops?
[10:20] <leftjustified> chuckyp: I was manully trawling through X's log file
[10:20] <chuckyp> leftjustified, if you commented out module "glx" in the xorg.conf that should get rid of that.
[10:20] <ajmitch> leftjustified: if you want a brisbane LUG, http://www.humbug.org.au/
[10:20] <jspiro> same: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[10:20] <jspiro> same: that is the Ubuntu CJK Chinese Japanese Korean Input Guide
[10:20] <windwalker78> can somebody comment on "sudo reiserfsck --rebuild-tree --badblocks list /dev/hda2"
[10:21] <relachs_telnet> was
[10:21] <same> OK
[10:21] <Acke_ubu> what tha..... i dled the free wm ware server. and now its asking for serial key!! ive not been informed that one of those was needed......
[10:21] <windwalker78> I have done badblocks -b 4096 /dev/hda2 > list
[10:21] <jspiro> Acke_ubu: you can get the key for free from the website.
[10:21] <jspiro> windwalker78: if you really have bad blocks on your hard drive, I suggest you throw it away and buy a new hard drive.
[10:22] <jspiro> windwalker78: and i recommend ext3 - it's more reliable than reiser.
[10:22] <windwalker78> gotta live on one more week with this one
[10:22] <windwalker78> really????
[10:22] <jspiro> windwalker78: make backups :)
[10:22] <windwalker78> I was told the other
[10:22] <Delano> I have a super newbie question
[10:22] <same> I think the problem is I had not installed scim
[10:22] <jspiro> Delano: just ask :)
[10:22] <Delano> How do I install rpm packages
[10:23] <jspiro> same: probably.
[10:23] <jspiro> Delano: DON'T
[10:23] <Delano> Pffft
[10:23] <jspiro> :)
[10:23] <windwalker78> has anybody done:"sudo reiserfsck --rebuild-tree --badblocks list /dev/hda2"
[10:23] <jspiro> Delano: what program?
[10:23] <Delano> jspiro, any program
[10:23] <Ligerzero|Monkey> gah
[10:23] <Ligerzero|Monkey> tried everything now
[10:23] <Delano> I have a few I would like to get
[10:23] <jspiro> leftjustified: found one?
[10:23] <jspiro> Delano: which?
[10:23] <Ligerzero|Monkey> videos wont stream through network. :(
[10:23] <jspiro> Ligerzero|Monkey: :(
[10:23] <leftjustified> jspiro: found one what?
[10:24] <Delano> jspiro, DosBox
[10:24] <jspiro> leftjustified: try to find a linux user group, theyre great and you'll learn a lot.
[10:24] <Ligerzero|Monkey> tried mplayer and stuff
[10:24] <same> jspiro :  can't open the page which you sended
[10:24] <jspiro> Delano: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/dosbox
[10:24] <AWOSDev> I can't figure out what the problem is, my Linux won't play an enhanced CD.   I have tried mounting it, playing it in KsCD, and VLC, and making sure I have the proper permissions.  I have also checked the disc for surface imperfections.  What else can I do?
[10:25] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, what is going on?   they won't stream is kind of vague.
[10:25] <jspiro> Delano: if you set up Universe you'll have more than 10 Thousand packages.
[10:25] <leftjustified> jspiro: user group? I'm looking at humbug.org.au now, except their next meeting is on sturday andn I'll already be at one physical meeting and have to be at the wordpress meeting at the same time... I'm going to sign up, but I'll have to fix this problem before I get a chance to go along
[10:25] <Delano> Wow thanks dude
[10:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> chuckyp:  im opening them via lan
[10:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> and mplayer wont play it
[10:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> nor vlc
[10:25] <jspiro> leftjustified: email them and ask if there are other user groups nearby. :-)
[10:25] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, Do you get an error?
[10:25] <Ligerzero|Monkey> no error
[10:25] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, does the file play locally if you copy it over?
[10:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> i can play my music over lan
[10:26] <jspiro> leftjustified: also, your uni may provide free UNIX support. ask your system administrator.
[10:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> not movies
[10:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> yes it does play if i copy it over
[10:26] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, what type of file is it?
[10:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> .avi
[10:26] <Ligerzero|Monkey> iirc, its xvid coded
[10:26] <Djnx> xvid
[10:27] <jspiro> same: when you go to  http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/  then what do you see?
[10:27] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, well vlc especially should be able to play it over lan.  mplayer might have some issues streaming avi but I doubt it.  Is this like a really high qualityg avi?
[10:27] <Delano> Can I play .wmv on Ubuntu?
[10:27] <rgl> good morning
[10:27] <Ligerzero|Monkey> yup, its high quality
[10:27] <jspiro> Delano: yes. /msg ubotu codecs
[10:27] <chuckyp> Delano, yes
[10:27] <leftjustified> jspiro: my uni provides zilch *nix support on any systems. luckily I'm friends with the guys in server management systems group so I'll drag my box into work tomorrow and hit them up for some help ;)
[10:27] <jspiro> leftjustified: good idea :)
[10:27] <chuckyp> Ligerzero|Monkey, like is it tryingto  buffer and just not catching up?
[10:27] <Delano> Whoa, nifty
[10:27] <rgl> can you tell me the url for the ubuntu apt repository?
[10:28] <s_spiff> does anyone know where i can find a how to on installing gaim2.0beta ?
[10:28] <jspiro> rgl: why?
[10:28] <jspiro> s_spiff: use kopete, its cooler :)
[10:28] <Delano> What other desktops can I run on Ubuntu besides GNOME, KDE and Blackbox?
[10:28] <rgl> jspiro, I need to debootstrap but dunno where to get the uri
[10:28] <chuckyp> s_spiff, ont he forums are some walkthroughs
[10:28] <AWOSDev> Delano, XFCE, Beryl.
[10:28] <s_spiff> chuckyp, i did check, but couldn't find anything on the amd64 forum
[10:29] <Delano> Where can I find XFCE .deb builds? Or do I need to get Xubuntu for that?
[10:29] <jspiro> rgl: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu
[10:29] <chuckyp> s_spiff, you would probably have to compile it on your own.
[10:29] <rgl> jspiro, thx :)
[10:29] <jspiro> rgl: np :)
[10:29] <wursthase> Delano: apt-get install xfce ?
[10:29] <chuckyp> s_spiff, unless someone has a deb.  I thought I saw a deb for gaim 64bit on the forums.
[10:29] <AWOSDev> Delano, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[10:29] <s_spiff> chuckyp, will look for it. thanks
[10:30] <jspiro> wursthase: maybe it's sudo apt-get install xfce4
[10:30] <same> the system worning
[10:30] <jspiro> oops
[10:30] <leftjustified> YES!!!!!! I"M IN!! *happy dance*  take THAT nvidia :D THankyou all for your patient help, it is very much appreciated!
[10:30] <chuckyp> Delano, xubuntu-desktop is the proper way
[10:30] <Delano> I don't have Xubuntu
[10:30] <chuckyp> leftjustified, what happened?
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Can somebody *please* help me with my CD problem?
[10:30] <zoCy> chuckyp, I get this when I try to update repository: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[10:30] <jspiro> AWOSDev: if nobody helps you try www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:30] <same> http://www.mrbass.org could not be fount
[10:30] <leftjustified> chuckyp: apt-get removed anything remotely related to nvidia, commented out that line in xorg.conf that was throwing the error I posted and reconfigured X11 again
[10:30] <wursthase> chuckyp: only you if want the whole xubuntu thing
[10:30] <zoCy> chuckyp, After I click on reload information.
[10:31] <jspiro> same: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/
[10:31] <chuckyp> leftjustified, cool now you are partially working.   If you want 3d support install the nvidia-glx package or the drivers from nvidia.com but stay away from automatix.
[10:31] <chuckyp> !nvidia > leftjustified
[10:31] <zoCy> chuckyp can you help me please ?
[10:31] <zoCy> chuckyp, I get this when I try to update repository: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[10:31] <jspiro> same: oops no
[10:31] <same> ok i try your other page
[10:31] <jspiro> same: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[10:31] <leftjustified> chuckyp: I don't need 3D, I'm just a coder monkey :)
[10:32] <Delano> I have a problem with my video card and screen resolution... I have an s3 virge card but Ubuntu doesn't detect it and uses generic drivers
[10:32] <chuckyp> zoCy, I don't think that is an official repo.
[10:32] <chuckyp> leftjustified, ahh then you should be find with the nv driver.
[10:32] <zoCy> chuckyp and how can i remove that ?
[10:32] <leftjustified> chuckyp: but I do need dual moniters.. that'll be the next thing I tackle
[10:32] <neildarlow> hi, will using prelink cause issues for a dapper->edgy upgrade?
[10:32] <chuckyp> zoCy, did you add that repo to your sources.list?
[10:32] <zoCy> chuckyp no
[10:32] <chuckyp> zoCy, well someone did.
[10:33] <same> had you heard the Vir---comine.exe
[10:33] <same> had you heard the Vir---comine.exe
[10:33] <zoCy> chuckyp  what do you mean ?
[10:33] <chuckyp> zoCy, what are you trying to do?
[10:33] <zoCy> chuckyp installing codecs
[10:33] <chuckyp> zoCy, i.e. what directions are you following?
[10:33] <zoCy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[10:33] <chuckyp> leftjustified, some google searching will show you how to get that going.  Or on the forums.
[10:34] <zoCy> chuckyp I followed there the instructions..
[10:34] <zoCy> chuckyp i pasted 4 lines there. in APT line
[10:34] <leftjustified> chuckyp: yup, I've got a heap of TwinView howto's already bookmarked, thanks :)
[10:34] <same> jspiro had you heard the Vir---comine.exe
[10:34] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: check this thread on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[10:34] <chuckyp> zoCy, well for codecs you don't need the lines you pasted you can remove those.
[10:35] <Andersen> quit
[10:35] <zoCy> chuckyp how ?
[10:35] <zoCy> chuckyp how can i remove those lines ?
[10:35] <same> or other peoples
[10:35] <same> had you heard the Vir---comine.exe
[10:35] <leftjustified> KenSentMe: THanks, that's one of the ones I've got bookmarked. That forum and this channel are the reason I went with ubuntu :D
[10:36] <neildarlow> same: http://www.sophos.com/security/analyses/trojsmallcoa.html
[10:36] <same> in china these is 80% windows xp system user got it
[10:36] <chuckyp> zoCy, int he same application you added them to You need to find the ones you added and remove them.
[10:36] <chuckyp> zoCy, should be settings > repositories
[10:37] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: the person who made the howto's is very helpfull and will answer you're questions most of the time
[10:37] <KenSentMe> leftjustified: you just have to have some patience
[10:37] <chuckyp> zoCy, remove the backports ones and the freecontrib ones
[10:37] <leftjustified> sudo apt-get remove automatix2   (!!!!)
[10:38] <zoCy> chuckyp I don't understand you :(
[10:38] <chuckyp> zoCy, is english your native language?
[10:38] <zoCy> chuckyp no
[10:39] <chuckyp> zoCy, what is your native language
[10:39] <zoCy> ro
[10:39] <chuckyp> zoCy, because we have 20 different language specific support rooms
[10:39] <chuckyp> ro?
[10:39] <zoCy> romanian
[10:39] <visik7> .
[10:39] <chuckyp> !ro
[10:39] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[10:39] <wursthase> !ro
[10:39] <same> so many people begin user ubuntu now
[10:40] <chuckyp> zoCy, if you /join #ubuntu-ro  they will be speaking romanian in there.
[10:40] <zoCy> chuckyp yea, but is noone there :P
[10:40] <same> so many people begin user ubuntu now :>
[10:40] <same> in china these is 80% windows xp system user got it
[10:40] <chuckyp> zoCy, be easier for them to explain stuff to you.  Because i'm having trouble understanding you as well.
[10:40] <same> so many people begin user ubuntu now :>
[10:40] <chuckyp> hrm...
[10:40] <same> so many people begin use ubuntu now :>
[10:41] <wursthase> so many people keep repeating..
[10:41] <ice_1963> well don't use ubuntu :)
[10:41] <chuckyp> zoCy, you need to open the same program where you pasted those 4 lines
[10:41] <zoCy> chuckyp ok
[10:41] <chuckyp> and then remove those repositories.
[10:42] <Cale> Is there an ubuntu package (official or not) for GHC 6.6 yet?
[10:42] <chuckyp> !ghc
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ghc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <zoCy> chuckyp done
[10:43] <zoCy> chuckyp now I want to install few codecs to see .avi or .mpeg files
[10:43] <chuckyp> zoCy, now all you have to do is enable the multiverse and universe repositorie
[10:43] <ice_1963> chuckyp: do you use nano edit your sources.list ?
[10:43] <chuckyp> ice_1963, yes
[10:43] <ice_1963> chuckyp: me to
[10:44] <zoCy> chuckyp and now ?
[10:44] <same> use ubuntu did not got the vir -comine cmd.exe 1.exe 2.exe .......
[10:44] <zoCy> chuckyp I enabled multiverse and universe from synaptic
[10:44] <same> thank you very much jspiro!
[10:44] <AWOSDev> Okay okay okay
[10:44] <chuckyp> zoCy, okay now do you know how to open a terminal?
[10:45] <zoCy> chuckyp lol of course
[10:45] <AWOSDev> Does anybody know why Ubuntu wouldn't play an EnhancedCD?
[10:45] <zoCy> chuckyp i am not so dumb
[10:45] <zoCy> :P
[10:45] <chuckyp> zoCy, I don't know.
[10:45] <zoCy> chuckyp what i have to type there ?
[10:45] <chuckyp> zoCy, okay now we are going to add some stuff
[10:45] <zoCy> chuckyp ok
[10:46] <chuckyp> zoCy, first sudo aptitude update
[10:46] <rixth> How can I kill a process once and for all?
[10:47] <chuckyp> rixth, killall nameofprocess
[10:47] <AWOSDev> rixth, killall -9 name
[10:47] <ice_1963> AWOSDev: i don't know what EnhancedCD is
[10:47] <rixth> AWOSDev, even signal 9 doesn't kill it.
[10:47] <zoCy> chuckyp i got few errors
[10:47] <AWOSDev> rixth, !?
[10:47] <chuckyp> rixth, or kill -9 <pid>
[10:47] <rixth> It's not going to a zombie process though.
[10:47] <chuckyp> zoCy, what errors?
[10:47] <AWOSDev> ice_1963, means Data and Audio on same disc
[10:47] <zoCy> chuckyp like W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:47] <zoCy> chuckyp: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:48] <chuckyp> hrm...
[10:48] <zoCy> chuckyp, E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[10:48] <chuckyp> zoCy, ahh close synaptic
[10:48] <ice_1963> AWOSDev: ok it's new to me lol
[10:48] <zoCy> ok
[10:48] <chuckyp> zoCy, then try sudo aptitude update
[10:48] <chuckyp> zoCy, you got those errors because only one program for updates can be open at a time.
[10:49] <rixth> AWOSDev, "sudo kill -9 1845" yep, doesn't kill it. If I use killall --wait it just waits.. doesn't drop me back to the command line. I can't kill this thing.
[10:49] <zoCy> chuckyp done, but i get few error again
[10:49] <zoCy> chuckyp , like this one W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:49] <AWOSDev> rixth, Power Button!
[10:49] <zoCy> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:49] <AWOSDev> rixth, shutdown -rfn now
[10:49] <rixth> AWOSDev, no, this happens every time I boot.
[10:49] <chuckyp> zoCy, okay lets try sudo apt-get update
[10:49] <zoCy> chuckyp several of W: GPS * errors
[10:49] <zoCy> ok
[10:50] <zoCy> chuckyp same
[10:50] <AWOSDev> rixth, DON'T EXECUTE THIS, but rm -rf / ? :P
[10:50] <rixth> Well, if it happens if I disconnect my webcam, which I do alot. The process is khubd (spawned by kthread)
[10:50] <chuckyp> zoCy, hrm...
[10:50] <rixth> AWOSDev, =)
[10:50] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to fix zoCy gpg errors?
[10:50] <rixth> AWOSDev, when I was a newbie I did that once.
[10:50] <AWOSDev> rixth, LOL
[10:51] <test001> can anybody see what i'm typing?
[10:51] <chuckyp> test001, no
[10:51] <test001> chuckyp, cool
[10:51] <ice_1963> test001: i can
[10:51] <chuckyp> zoCy, first we need to figure out have to fix your gpg errors but I have no idea how.
[10:52] <zoCy> chuckyp maybe i didn't delete dapper-backports
[10:52] <AWOSDev> chuckyp, zoCy, don't worry about GPG errors, they're fine as long as it is only 'W'
[10:53] <chuckyp> zoCy, okay find now sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs
[10:54] <zoCy> chuckyp this is one line or 4 ?
[10:54] <chuckyp> one line just copy and paste from the sudo on
[10:54] <BrianG> i just "updated" to edgy and when i reboot i get an X error saying it failed to load libGLcore.so .. i have no idea what to do. I thought i would have to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf to make sure device was set to nv and not nvidia but xorg.conf seems empty
[10:54] <chuckyp> zoCy, that will install the codecs for pretty much everything but playing dvd's
[10:54] <chuckyp> !edgy > BrianG
[10:55] <BrianG> !edgy
[10:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:55] <BrianG> mleh
[10:55] <zoCy> chuckyp ok wait a sec
[10:55] <pckim93> !schedule
[10:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:56] <ice_1963> to play a dvd you will need libdvdcss2
[10:56] <zoCy> chuckyp WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[10:56] <zoCy>   gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll libgsm1 libmms0 libmpcdec3
[10:56] <zoCy>   libswfdec0.3 libwavpack0 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad libmp4v2-0 libfaac0
[10:56] <zoCy>   libfaad2-0 libxvidcore4 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse liba52-0.7.4
[10:56] <zoCy>   libdvdread3 libid3tag0 libmpeg2-4 libsidplay1 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[10:56] <zoCy>   liblame0 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine
[10:56] <AWOSDev> zoCy, Yes!
[10:56] <zoCy> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[10:56] <AWOSDev> zoCy, Y
[10:56] <zoCy> I hit y ?
[10:56] <zoCy> ok
[10:56] <AWOSDev> zoCy, Yes!
[10:56] <chuckyp> Y
[10:56] <chuckyp> After that is done we will add w32codecs as well i'm assuming you want those to play .wmv etc?
[10:56] <zoCy> yes
[10:57] <chuckyp> zoCy, wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/non-free/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[10:57] <chuckyp> zoCy, sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[10:57] <chuckyp> zoCy, thats two serperate lines
[10:57] <dsdg> morning #ubuntu! i am having trouble installing compiz - followed the steps according to : http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 - but when i give this command: apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz compiz-kde i get E: Broken packages
[10:57] <ice_1963> mplayer is what i use i like it
[10:57] <chuckyp> zoCy, you do the first one then after it downloads you sudo dpkg -i to install the package
[10:57] <zoCy> chuckyp ok, wait a sec please
[10:58] <chuckyp> ice_1963, mplayer here too.
[10:58] <chuckyp> !xgl > dsdg
[10:58] <jordan__> I accidently deleted the beryl applet from my gnome-panel.
[10:58] <dsdg> chuckyp: ?
[10:58] <chuckyp> dsdg, xgl support is in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:58] <dsdg> chuckyp: thanks bro!
[10:59] <chuckyp> dsdg, np
[10:59] <jordan__> I accidently deleted the beryl applet from my gnome-panel, how do I put it back?
[11:00] <chuckyp> jordan__, xgl support is in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:01] <ice_1963> chuckyp: what did ubuntu do to fix gnome-screensavers error?
[11:02] <chuckyp> ice_1963, hold up outside smoking brb
[11:02] <ice_1963> chuckyp: okay
[11:05] <chuckyp> ice_1963, back what now?
[11:05] <zoCy> chuckyp, i am done, what else I have to do ?
[11:05] <chuckyp> zoCy, didyou do the w32codecs thing?
[11:06] <zoCy> yes
[11:06] <jordan__> chuckyp, Not many people in #ubuntu-xgl, and this is more of a gnome question anyway.
[11:06] <mnepton> dum dee dee
[11:07] <Goldwing> Ok, i'm a new one to Ubuntu, i'm going going to install it on a laptop that was running FC6 pre 1, anything i need to know, or just plain install?
[11:08] <chuckyp> zoCy, alright well do you need dvd support?
[11:08] <jordan__> I accidently deleted the beryl applet from my gnome-panel, how do I put it back?
[11:08] <zoCy> chuckyp no
[11:08] <wickedpuppy> !upgrade
[11:08] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:08] <chuckyp> zoCy, then you should be all set
[11:08] <NET||abuse> I'm having supprisingly bad playback on some video on my laptop, H.264 encoded mov file i'm trying to play back, and in vlc it just looks awful, like all the lines from the interpolation are disjointed, and in xine the frame rate is just too low. looks like every second frame is missed
[11:08] <chuckyp> Goldwing, do you need your data backed up?
[11:08] <zoCy> chuckyp ok let me try to open a movie
[11:08] <mnepton> Goldwing: if you're experienced with FC, Ubuntu will not be a huge shock
[11:08] <NET||abuse> this is on a 3 year old laptop, but there shouldn't be this kind of latency
[11:08] <Goldwing> chuckyp : hope
[11:09] <Goldwing> mnepton : k thx
[11:09] <chuckyp> Goldwing, nope just install you probably want to check out the desktop guide
[11:09] <mnepton> NET||abuse: what kernel?
[11:09] <Goldwing> chuckyp ok thx
[11:09] <mnepton> (i.e. architecture)
[11:10] <chuckyp> Goldwing, most your questions will be answered there as far as getting codecs and software etc... The only thing I would mention is stay away from automatix or easyubuntu you don't really need them.  Its kind of a hacked way of installing software and it causes problems.
[11:10] <NET||abuse> mnepton: according to uname-a i'm on 2.6.15027-386
[11:11] <NET||abuse> umm, s/0/-/
[11:11] <NET||abuse> 2.6.15-27-386
[11:11] <mnepton> NET||abuse: for what architecture?
[11:11] <AWOSDev> Edgy huh?
[11:11] <mnepton> oh, 386
[11:11] <AWOSDev> mnepton, see that -386?
[11:11] <NET||abuse> :P
[11:11] <mnepton> NET||abuse: what CPU do you have?
[11:11] <Goldwing> chuckyp : and does ubuntu have something like yum or apt-get ?
[11:12] <NET||abuse> and this laptop is a pentium 4 m 1.8 Ghz
[11:12] <zoCy> chuckyp it's working
[11:12] <zoCy> thanks a lot mate
[11:12] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, install linux-image-686
[11:12] <mnepton> Goldwing: it has something like apt-get called apt-get
[11:12] <Goldwing> heheehe
[11:12] <NET||abuse> chuckyp: really??
[11:12] <chuckyp> !linux-image-generic
[11:12] <zoCy> chuckyp i opened with gxine :)
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image-generic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, yeah
[11:12] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, that will give you some speed ups
[11:12] <jordan__> Goldwing, Ubuntu uses apt, it's debian based.
[11:12] <mnepton> NET||abuse: the 686 kernel will give you much, MUCH better media performance
[11:12] <Goldwing> cool, i liked apt-get on fedora alot better then yum
[11:12] <chuckyp> zoCy, yeah you should be able to use gxine or totem to play movies
[11:12] <zoCy> chuckyp yep thanks a lot
[11:13] <chuckyp> Goldwing, yeah everythign is apt-get
[11:13] <NET||abuse> can i just throw the package in with apt-get install linux-image-686
[11:13] <chuckyp> zoCy, np
[11:13] <NET||abuse> i see it there in the repos
[11:13] <mnepton> NET||abuse: no, you'll need "sudo" ;)
[11:13] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, yeah that wil install the 686 kernel
[11:13] <NET||abuse> mnepton: haha
[11:13] <Goldwing> only worry will be getting my prism2.5 card working properly
[11:13] <mnepton> NET||abuse: make sure you get the 686 restricted modules, too
[11:14] <BlanketMan> hi, what's linux command to list all my hdds? eg : hda1 hdb1 ..
[11:14] <chuckyp> Goldwing, should work out of the box i believe
[11:14] <NET||abuse> mnepton: um, how do i go about getting the restricted modules?
[11:14] <Goldwing> ROFL!!!! "Failed to create a file system" okeeee... that's a goood start
[11:14] <NET||abuse> should they run on dependancy of installing this new kernel image?
[11:14] <chuckyp> Goldwing, lol
[11:14] <mnepton> NET||abuse: apt-cache search restricted-modules
[11:14] <NET||abuse> :P ok, i'll go allokking
[11:14] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, it will tell you if not install linux-restricted-modules-686   but I believe it will depend on it.
[11:15] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, uh, ls -al /dev/hd*
[11:15] <ice_1963> Goldwing: you did
[11:15] <BlanketMan> thanks a lot
[11:15] <mnepton> chuckyp: the kernel does not depend on modules.
[11:15] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, np :)
[11:15] <Goldwing> ice_1963 : i told ubuntu installer to partition for m
[11:15] <Goldwing> e
[11:15] <Ghos> Hi everyone!
[11:15] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, well then sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 linux-restricted-modules-686
[11:15] <Goldwing> then the error came
[11:16] <mnepton> Goldwing: are the partitions/drives mounted?
[11:16] <chuckyp> Goldwing, are you using the livecd or the alternate iso?
[11:16] <emanuelez> hello. i installed the flash 9 beta. i can see it in about:plugins, and it works apart from audio. what should i have in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc?
[11:16] <tucoz> Hi, is there some place to see if a specific program is part of a package?
[11:16] <bun-bun> !ssl
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Goldwing> mnepton it's the live cd, i just downloaded, so it should have mounted them
[11:16] <BlanketMan> AWOSDev : That results in about 7 hds :) I'm sure I only have 2
[11:16] <Rookie_> !mod_ssl
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod_ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Goldwing> chuckyp : live cd
[11:17] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, try    ls -al /dev/hd?
[11:17] <AWOSDev> Yes with a ?
[11:17] <mnepton> Goldwing: try unmounting filesystems before altering them
[11:17] <Rookie_> df
[11:17] <BlanketMan> ahh thats more like it, cheers
[11:17] <NET||abuse> chuckyp: mnepton: thanks alot for this :) how would that affect my use of Xgl also?? i'm not using during the video playback before you ask, but in terms of performance on the Xgl compiz setup? would it improve that at all either?
[11:17] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, np :)
[11:17] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, those others were the individual partitions.
[11:17] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, yes that would improve as well.
[11:18] <NET||abuse> interesting :)
[11:18] <Goldwing> mnepton : need to reboot it bow... it's stuck at 15% "detecting file system"
[11:18] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, e.g. hda is disk, hda1, 2, 3 is partitions :0
[11:18] <AWOSDev> s/0/)
[11:18] <mnepton> NET||abuse: most likely not, although the restricted module for your vidcard might.
[11:18] <AWOSDev>  /
[11:18] <chuckyp> NET||abuse, basically you are installing hte proper kernel for your hardware.
[11:18] <ice_1963> flashplugin-nonfree is not that inporint for me
[11:18] <BlanketMan> hdc could be usb device?
[11:18] <NET||abuse>  chuckyp: so i understand,, well i really wish i'd known about this earlier :)
[11:18] <emanuelez> hello. i installed the flash 9 beta. i can see it in about:plugins, and it works apart from audio. what should i have in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc?
[11:18] <NET||abuse> my performance has always been a little laggy
[11:18] <BlanketMan> ahh never mind, disk drive :) thanks again
[11:18] <mnepton> NET||abuse: you'll see a marked improvement.
[11:19] <Goldwing> can't i install without going to the live ubuntu?? i mean.. install right away without the fancy stuff
[11:19] <mnepton> Goldwing: get the alternate CD
[11:19] <Goldwing> i'm a commandline person anyway
[11:19] <mnepton> Goldwing: the alternate CD has the curse installer
[11:19] <mnepton> *curses
[11:19] <Goldwing> mnepton : ok
[11:19] <Goldwing> thx
[11:19] <NET||abuse> could this impact on anything like my other hardware tweaks i've had to do, installing the bcm43xx module for my wifi, or will i have to replace any drivers like the radeon driver or anything?
[11:19] <wizarko> hello
[11:19] <chuckyp> Goldwing, also burn it at like 8x or slower
[11:20] <chuckyp> Goldwing, just to make sure you aren't having media issues
[11:20] <BlanketMan> last question for the night, can we find out more info about a hda hdb etc from terminal? eg : storage capacity etc.
[11:20] <Goldwing> chuckyp ok
[11:20] <emanuelez> what is in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc by default?
[11:20] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan, uh dunno.
[11:20] <BlanketMan> just so I know I am mounting the correct hd :)
[11:21] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan
[11:21] <AWOSDev> BlanketMan - try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd?"
[11:21] <AWOSDev> replace ? with either a or b.
[11:22] <wyrmwraith> generally has much been modified since the latest release of dapper drake?
[11:22] <wyrmwraith> briefly
[11:22] <wyrmwraith> sort of thing
[11:22] <Shadowpillar> yeah
[11:23] <wyrmwraith> ok
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> example: stock kernel doesn't support things like the jmicron ASIC
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> updated kernel does
[11:23] <wyrmwraith> i'm missing bout 40mb
[11:23] <wyrmwraith> ic
[11:23] <wyrmwraith> :p
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> so if your HW seems to not work right, update to the latest kernel
[11:24] <wyrmwraith> i know of jmicron can't identify tho
[11:24] <iLLf8d> uhm I can't seem to insall flash atm any bot entries for a fix?
[11:25] <wyrmwraith> normally once the bitchx 'repository' is retrieved should it be apparent in the gui
[11:25] <wyrmwraith> ?
[11:25] <AWOSDev> !flash
[11:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:25] <wyrmwraith> doesnt automatix offer it?
[11:25] <Corporal_Dirge> ug, gnucash isn't working.
[11:25] <mnepton> for the love of God do not use Automatix, EasyUbuntu, or anything like them
[11:25] <wyrmwraith> possibly to an extent
[11:26] <wyrmwraith> ic
[11:26] <NET||abuse> that worked a treat there guys, thanks for that :)
[11:26] <wyrmwraith> like batch files and dos?
[11:26] <NET||abuse> anything else i should put in place to improve performance in any areas?
[11:26] <mnepton> NET||abuse have you rebooted?
[11:26] <NET||abuse> mnepton: yeh
[11:26] <mnepton> hokeydoke
[11:26] <NET||abuse> played the broken video, was well smooth
[11:27] <wyrmwraith> ci
[11:27] <XiXaQ> How can I disable window animations, fade out, etc, in Gnome?
[11:27] <mnepton> NET||abuse: give this kernel 24 hours, then when you're satisfied it work use Synaptic to remove any 386 kernel stuff
[11:27] <AWOSDev> Okay: I need to enable Digital Audio CD Playback in <small>k</small>Ubuntu Dapper 32-bit 2.6.15-23-386
[11:27] <AWOSDev> Please help?
[11:27] <Vapour> hiya. in keyboard shortcuts, what does e.g. "0xb2" mean?
[11:27] <AWOSDev> 0xB2 is a scancode.
[11:28] <mnepton> it's Ox - Beta 2. God's bugfix release for the popular draft animal.
[11:28] <Goldwing> does ubuntu use grub bootloader? (just wondering)
[11:28] <mnepton> Goldwing: yes.
[11:28] <Goldwing> k
[11:29] <Vapour> mnepton: so it's not a shortcut?
[11:29] <mnepton> Vapour: </sarcasm> ;)
[11:29] <Vapour> hehe
[11:29] <AWOSDev> It's a freaky scancode at that.
[11:29] <AWOSDev> I can't find it anywhere.
[11:29] <Vapour> well I don't know enough about Linux to notice sarcasm
[11:29] <wyrmwraith> ninjas?
[11:30] <AWOSDev> Vapour, he was talking about the Ox as in the animal, saying that it was a 'beta' release of the ox :)  just a funny
[11:30] <wyrmwraith> don't hurt me
[11:30] <French> Can some one please help my change my owner for my hdb1, i just mounted it and i dont know how to change ownership
[11:30] <NET||abuse> ;) yeh, even flash playback is better,, and in Xgl it's actually smooth too
[11:31] <neenaoffline> French: chown ?
[11:31] <French> Yeah, i know i have to use chown but i dont know how
[11:31] <neenaoffline> How do I make a CD which can be detected by apt ?
[11:31] <French> What are the comands
[11:31] <Goldwing> AWOSDev : so, you are saying God had beta products of all it's creations? damn.. then he must have missed something with "Woman"
[11:31] <neenaoffline> French: where did you mount it ?
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Goldwing :P
[11:31] <mnepton> Goldwing: yeah, he made "baby" depend on "male-1.0-eden1"
[11:31] <wyrmwraith> lol
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[11:32] <French> to /media/blah
[11:32] <Goldwing> ROFL
[11:32] <wyrmwraith> gamma
[11:32] <French> neenaoffline: to /media/blah
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> bug 66537
[11:33] <iLLf8d> can anyone running dapper whose got flash installed do a locate install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz and if you have one dcc it to me?
[11:33] <bun-bun> !mime++
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mime++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <bun-bun> !mimepp
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mimepp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <teledyn> hi, i have an odd issue: apt-get is working when i connect my wifi interface to one access point, but fails when connected to a different one
[11:34] <neenaoffline> French: "chown username /media/blah"
[11:34] <French> and that will change it so I can read/write to that drive?
[11:35] <neenaoffline> French: no
[11:35] <thefish> iLLf8d: you need the libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[11:35] <neenaoffline> French: what filesystem ?
[11:35] <hodden> Hi.... need help with J2ME wtk... cant install it. all I get is 15082 Segmenteringsfel Failed to extract JavaVersionTester class
[11:35] <thefish> or in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[11:35] <neenaoffline> !apt-cdrom
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <French> neenaoffline: fat32
[11:35] <thefish> flash 9 beta is out! http://www.subvs.co.uk/flash_player_9_on_linux
[11:35] <bun-bun> is mime++ available through any of the apt repositories?
[11:35] <iLLf8d> thefish, the tarball I need to get it is no longer available on the download mirror
[11:35] <neenaoffline> French: donno , don't ask me :)
[11:36] <chuckyp> !mime++
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mime++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <chuckyp> !mime
[11:36] <thefish> iLLf8d: check the link i just posted
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <thefish> thats for the flash9player beta
[11:36] <thefish> im running it on edgy, works fine
[11:36] <Goldwing> hmm.. must have been a glitch.. i
[11:36] <Goldwing> hmm.. must have been a glitch.. i'm trying it with the live cd again.. and it's working now...
[11:37] <Vapour> how do I read the scancode?
[11:37] <wyrmwraith> lol
[11:37] <iLLf8d> thefish, thanks
[11:37] <French> neenaoffline: "changing ownership of /media/blah operation not permitted"
[11:37] <thefish> iLLf8d: no worries
[11:37] <chuckyp> Vapour, http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=scancode&btnG=Search
[11:37] <neenaoffline> French: I don't know
[11:37] <wyrmwraith> farken aye
[11:37] <French> neenaoffline: Thanks for you help tho!
[11:38] <neenaoffline> French: :)
[11:39] <wyrmwraith> is their a source for the security prob?
[11:39] <wyrmwraith> reagarding nvidia
[11:40] <Vapour> chuckyp: cheers. I didn't realise there is a Linux google... I was googling but found mainly windows stuff
[11:40] <neenaoffline> how do I create a CDROM which can be detected by apt ? any documentation ?
[11:41] <neenaoffline> !apt-cdrom
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <teledyn> anyone else get "Connection failed" when using apt-get - only with specfic interfaces?
[11:43] <Svish> anyone ubuntu geniuses here?
[11:43] <Svish> hello?
[11:43] <Svish> is there anybody out there?
[11:44] <neenaoffline> no
[11:44] <bun-bun> Svish# you might want to lower your expectations a bit this late :)
[11:44] <Svish> this late?
[11:44] <thefish> Svish: you may want to try #ubuntu-geniuses
[11:44] <Svish> lol
[11:44] <chenwgm> how to use icq
[11:44] <bun-bun> Svish# it's 2:45am here
[11:44] <Svish> well, its 13:44 here, so.. kind of not late :p
[11:44] <waylandbill> it's always late somewhere.
[11:45] <fnf> Svish: and here's 16:44 ;)
[11:45] <bun-bun> or you could just throw your question out there and see if any geniuses wake up to answer it ;)
[11:45] <chuckyp> chenwgm, use gaim
[11:45] <Svish> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[11:46] <teledyn> what's the bot's name?
[11:46] <holycow> botbot
[11:46] <holycow> not really
[11:46] <holycow> ubotu
[11:46] <mnepton> Svish: kernel source is not installed by default
[11:46] <Svish> ok
[11:46] <Svish> so
[11:46] <rgl> can you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[11:46] <Svish> how do I install it?
[11:46] <mnepton> Svish: it is available in the repos
[11:46] <Svish> repos?
[11:47] <waylandbill> /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:47] <mnepton> repositories
[11:47] <kenshin_ds> hi
[11:47] <Svish> in totally newb, lol
[11:48] <French> Can some one help me out, im trying to chown my /media/blah *fat32* so i can read/write to is, but i dont know how to use chown
[11:48] <Svish> there is no directory called linux-headers
[11:48] <mnepton> Svish: why do you need the kernel source?
[11:48] <Svish> /usr/src is empty
[11:48] <waylandbill> Svish, you need to install them first. then they will be there.
[11:48] <fnf> Svish: you need to install 'linux-headers-$(uname-r)' first, the uname -r command shows you what's your current kernel version, just a convenience.
[11:48] <teledyn> this is my 2nd hour using ubuntu
[11:48] <Svish> some installthing asks for it
[11:49] <mnepton> Svish: what asks for it?
[11:49] <sonics> what xterm is best for using irssi?!
[11:49] <waylandbill> what is 'some install thing'
[11:49] <Svish> uname -r -> 2.6.15-27-386
[11:49] <mnepton> Svish: what asks for it?
[11:49] <bun-bun> sonics# i've used irssi with the default terminal in gnome with no problems
[11:49] <Svish> a config-script
[11:50] <Svish> or something
[11:50] <waylandbill> Svish, start simple... what are you trying to do exactly?
[11:50] <fnf> Svish: yup, then you need to install linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[11:50] <Vapour> if I have a hd with NTFS and I want to install Linux on it, will it change the FS to FAT32 or something automatically?
[11:50] <sonics> bun-bun: yeah but I need the background to turn black and maybe wanted to add some transparency to it, is that possible !?
[11:50] <Svish> I am running ubuntu in VMware, and I am trying to install something called VMwareTools
[11:50] <whazilla> Vapour u'r ntfs will be vaporized
[11:50] <wolf202> anyone know an alarm clock app?
[11:51] <waylandbill> Vapour, you can resize the NTFS smaller to make room for linux
[11:51] <Svish> and the installing went great
[11:51] <fnf> Vapour: the installer will ask you to format the partition before copying any files.
[11:51] <Svish> but now I need to configure it
[11:51] <mnepton> Svish: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[11:51] <Svish> and the configure-something.pl asks for the source thing
[11:51] <waylandbill> Svish, that's what I figured you were doing. You need to 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers'
[11:51] <bun-bun> sonics# iirc, the background is black by default, and i believe you can adjust the opacity to make it transparent as well
[11:52] <Svish> sudo apt-get install linux got a whole list of linux-headers
[11:52] <Vapour> waylandbill: what does resize mean? is it what fnf says: NTFS on one partition and another FS on another?
[11:52] <Svish> it says that I should explicitly select one
[11:52] <sonics> bun-bun: you mean the normal xterm?! well, how can I switch fonts there?
[11:53] <fnf> Vapour: he meant if you've got only one existing NTFS partition, try to resize it first to create another partition for Ubuntu.
[11:53] <waylandbill> Vapour, you will have to manually set up the partitions. You will make the NTFS smaller and then create a Linux one (plus a swap one) in the freed space.
[11:53] <Vapour> ok, thanks
[11:53] <mnepton> Svish: what does uname -a return?
[11:54] <Saelynh_irssi> hi evryone
[11:54] <waylandbill> Svish, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:54] <bun-bun> sonics# it's not xterm i'm pretty sure-- i'm referring to the terminal program available through Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:54] <mnepton> waylandbill: no, as that will not install the meta-package that updates will depend on
[11:54] <French> Can some one help me out, im trying to chown my /media/blah *fat32* so i can read/write to is, but i dont know how to use chown
[11:54] <bun-bun> sonics# change fonts etc by editing the default profile or creating your own
[11:55] <sonics> bun-bun: yeah ok its "gnome-terminal"
[11:55] <fnf> French: You read the man pages already ?
[11:55] <Svish> so, same as I did, but with `uname -r` after it?
[11:55] <bun-bun> sonics# that's the one
[11:55] <sonics> bun-bun: im pretty new to that, is there any howto on that?
[11:55] <waylandbill> mnepton, ah.. linux-headers-386 is what he wants.
[11:55] <French> fnt: yeah is still unclear to me
[11:55] <sonics> which font runs best with irssi?
[11:55] <mnepton> waylandbill: if he has a 386 kernel, yes. but he didn't answer me.
[11:55] <rgl> how do I remove the klogd package without also removing the syslogd package?  that is, apt-get --purge remove klogd whats to remove both :(
[11:55] <Svish> yey!
[11:55] <Svish> it found one
[11:55] <Svish> I am installing it :)
[11:56] <bun-bun> sonics# it's fairly simple-- within terminal go to edit -> profiles
[11:56] <rootpt> how can i install flash9 ? its safe to install ?
[11:56] <bun-bun> !gnome-terminal
[11:56] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 165 kB, installed size 396 kB
[11:56] <Svish> linux-headers-2.6.15-27
[11:56] <Svish> or something..
[11:56] <fnf> French: an immediate solution is '#chown <user:group> /media/blah', ex.: if your user name is aabb then 'chown aabb:aabb /media/blah'
[11:56] <waylandbill> updating would be an issue with vmware anyway as the modules would need re-compiling at some point.
[11:57] <sonics> ahh thanx bun-bun ^^
[11:57] <sonics> what font can u recommen?
[11:57] <shinobi2> how do i password protect a tar file?
[11:57] <shinobi2> or a zip file?
[11:57] <French> fnf: that will allow me to read/write on that media?
[11:57] <atinos> hello
[11:57] <bun-bun> sonics# i just used the default settings..  but i tend to like monospace fonts
[11:57] <Svish> yeah, the best would be to run linux on its own partition not inside vmware..
[11:57] <fnf> French: sure, the owner of a file has total control over it
[11:58] <Svish> but sort of need windows too, so.. hehe
[11:58] <atinos> where can I find the jre directory?   "whereis java" and "whereis jre" don't tell me that
[11:58] <French> fnf: i tryed what you have told me, and ive tryed it befor also, it doesnt work, it says chaing  ownership no permitted
[11:58] <fnf> French: in case the partition is not auto-mounted though, you still need root permission to mount it (unless specified in fstab)
[11:58] <waylandbill> shinobi2, the man page for zip says that '-e' will prompt for a password to encrypt the archive.
[11:59] <h1mawari> how to /etc/resov.conf setting in ipv6 client
[11:59] <fnf> French: that needs root permission, try appending 'sudo'
[11:59] <French> fnf: im not sure what you mean by appending
[11:59] <waylandbill> prepend sudo
[11:59] <fnf> French: sudo chown aabb:aabb /media/blah should work
[12:00] <fnf> waylandbill: ah yes
[12:00] <French> fnf: I tryed that just befor and it didn't work, i might have wrote it wrong ill try again
[12:00] <whazilla> i fucked up my ubuntu
[12:00] <shinobi2> waylandbill: ok, but far tar files, there's no passwd protect?
[12:00] <gnu2it2> what is a good serial connection program to a tty besides kermit ?
[12:01] <whazilla> deleted my localhost connections in network properties
[12:01] <Svish> that reminds me: what is the best way to install java-jdk? and is there any good development environments for linux(C and C++ mainly)? im used to Visual Studio so... not good at terminalcompiling and texteditorprogramming :p
[12:01] <shinobi2> whazilla: me too, my ubuntu is acting weird from time to time. have to wipe out and reinstall
[12:01] <whazilla> now i can't su or sudo
[12:01] <French> fnf: I get this result "changing ownership of `/media/blah': Operation not permitted"
[12:01] <whazilla> how would i fix it ?
[12:01] <atinos> where can I find the java directory?   "whereis java" and "whereis jre" don't tell me that
[12:01] <fnf> French: did it ask for your password ?
[12:01] <whazilla> i don't wanne play wipeout
[12:01] <French> Yes
[12:01] <whazilla> but if it's a must
[12:02] <whazilla> i'll play
[12:02] <waylandbill> shinobi2, not that I'm aware of. just don't leave your vital tar in an unsecure place. :-)
[12:02] <shinobi2> whazilla: that's really f up
[12:02] <fnf> French: wierd, have you used sudo before ? can you sudo to modify /etc/fstab for ex. ?
[12:02] <whazilla> nope
[12:02] <wolf202> Anyone know a good alarm clock app???
[12:03] <shinobi2> whazilla: that's really f up
[12:03] <whazilla> sudo says something about unable to contact local host
[12:03] <Vapour> sonics: Tahoma is a good hinted font
[12:03] <shinobi2> waylandbill: disregard my other comment, wrong person
[12:03] <PURESKILLZZZ> I am a noob but I think french needs to close and then re-open treminal
[12:03] <whazilla> shinobi2 just the way we like it then ?
[12:03] <Goldwing> hmm... that's something getting used to... ubunto doesn't have a "root" account
[12:03] <French> fnf: I have
[12:03] <whazilla> *den
[12:03] <French> PURESKILLZZZ: I have
[12:04] <sonics> Tahoma aint installed here...
[12:04] <gnu2it2> what is a good serial connection program to a tty besides kermit ?
[12:04] <shinobi2> waylandbill: i am just chmod it to 700 for me tar, but work like to passwd protect it , and get into a habit, so i case one day i forget to chmod my files
[12:04] <sonics> Vapour: how do I get Tahoma font?
[12:04] <AWOSDev> sonics, sudo apt-get install mscorefonts IIRC...
[12:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> french .. when you open your terminal what do you see ?
[12:04] <French> PURESKILLZZZ: "jarrad@jarrad-desktop:~$"
[12:05] <waylandbill> shinobi2, you should always know your permissions in a multi-user, networked environment anyway.
[12:05] <sonics> AWOSDev: "Couldnt find package mscorefonts"
[12:05] <Goldwing> whats a good alternative for kismet?? one that runs in gnome?
[12:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> then you should be able to type sudo there
[12:05] <whazilla> i can't
[12:05] <whazilla> it's unpure
[12:05] <Vapour> sonics: sorry I don't know
[12:05] <whazilla> no connection to localhost
[12:05] <shinobi2> waylandbill: man.. i can't type, so tired, good bye
[12:05] <sonics> Vapour: np^
[12:05] <French> I have GTG
[12:06] <fnf> French: So you want to modify the files on the mounted partition ? The correct way to do it would be specifing the group in /etc/fstab and put yourself in that group (Ubuntu has plugdev, usually GID=46 for account that can modify the files on mounted partitions)
[12:06] <AWOSDev> sonics: apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:06] <waylandbill> !root
[12:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:06] <waylandbill> for Goldwing
[12:06] <sonics> AWOSDev: working thnx =)
[12:06] <fnf> French: changing ownership should work but not in anyway elegant.
[12:07] <AWOSDev> sonics, np =)
[12:07] <Goldwing> ok thx
[12:07] <AWOSDev> Oops sorry wrong channel
[12:07] <sonics> eheh
[12:07] <Goldwing> i knew about sudo, but typing it before each command, especially when you have to do alot..
[12:07] <Goldwing> not nice
[12:08] <flapane> hi
[12:08] <bun-bun> if anyone knows where i can find mimepp (mime++) packages i could use a pointer
[12:08] <flapane> any news about release of edgy eft stable?
[12:08] <RMorris84> !flash
[12:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:08] <foureight84> hello
[12:08] <fnf> flapane: that is scheduled to be on 26th this month
[12:08] <PURESKILLZZZ> hi
[12:08] <flapane> thank you very much
[12:08] <waylandbill> Goldwing, look at the man for sudo.. specifically -i switch
[12:08] <foureight84> i have a question about automounting cf cards
[12:08] <AWOSDev> Goldwing, wanna know a secret?
[12:08] <RMorris84> how do u install flash 9?
[12:09] <Goldwing> waylandbill : yea
[12:09] <Goldwing> AWOSDev : sure, but won't everybody know here then ;)
[12:09] <foureight84> i have my cf card on automount in fstab. when i remove it, it gets unmounted, but after plugging it in, it doesn't automount, i have to do it manually
[12:09] <AWOSDev> Goldwing, try sudo -s
[12:09] <foureight84> is there a way to make ubuntu automount cf and sd cards on insertion?
[12:09] <Goldwing> AWOSDev : ok will give it a shot
[12:10] <AWOSDev> Goldwing, np :)
[12:10] <Goldwing> :)
[12:10] <waylandbill> be sure to look at the differences of -i and -s.. they are a little different with the environments.
[12:11] <foureight84> anyone?
[12:12] <rapego> ola
[12:12] <PURESKILLZZZ> Goldwing what version you using .. In vesion 5.10 my card mount when I insert them and all I do is right click and clickun mount volume or some word like that
[12:12] <PURESKILLZZZ> foureight84 ^^^^
[12:13] <foureight84> eh?
[12:13] <Rookie-> !easysource
[12:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:13] <PURESKILLZZZ> they mount auto unless you changed settings ....
[12:13] <foureight84> it's been like that ever since i installed ubuntu
[12:14] <foureight84> it doens't automount after i remove the card and reinsert it
[12:14] <xchi> HI GUYS, ANY IDEA HOW TO CONVERT DVD TO CDS
[12:14] <jonah1980_2> hi there, got a big problem and thought someone could hopefully help. chuckyp from +1 room been helping but he had to go and he said although he didn't know what was wrong it should be easy for someone to fix. since installing newer nvidia driver X won't start anymore, i installed it to try compiz but now it GDM won't work... i know i'm on edgy but i just wanted to ask in hope that someone might help
[12:14] <xchi> PLS LET ME KNOW
[12:14] <xchi> U PEOPLE MUST BE KNOWING ANYWAY
[12:14] <KenSentMe> How do i log a chat with irssi?
[12:14] <xchi> DVD TO CD HOWTO ATLEAST
[12:14] <gilligan_> johnccc, check what /var/log/XFree86.0.log says
[12:14] <xchi> DVD TO CD HOWTO ATLEAST
[12:14] <xchi> DVD TO CD HOWTO ATLEAST
[12:14] <xchi> DVD TO CD HOWTO ATLEAST
[12:15] <KenSentMe> xchi: loose the caps
[12:15] <sonics> Can anyone tell me what I gotta do if copy&paste to terminals (with shift+rightclick) aint working?
[12:15] <zanpakuto> anyone here running xen on edgy?
[12:15] <rbrick> hi all
[12:15] <sharperguy> sonics, select the command, and middle click to paste
[12:15] <brynk> sonics: missle mouse button
[12:16] <PURESKILLZZZ> xchi you mount dvd on hard drive .. then you convert to mpeg 1 then you creat a vcd
[12:16] <sonics> ohh damn :)
[12:16] <thoreauputic> xchi: please, please stop yelling
[12:16] <sonics> you are right
[12:16] <sonics> thxn =)
[12:16] <sharperguy> brynk, we're not playing missle command
[12:16] <PURESKILLZZZ> I answered his question ... :)
[12:16] <xchi> alright , will have tea and come back
[12:16] <brynk> k, sorry :)
[12:16] <yakumo> hi is there a program where i can create a dvd for ubuntu?
[12:17] <gilligan_> yakumo, nautilus->CD/DVD Creator
[12:17] <xchi> there is a shell script to do the dvd to cd
[12:17] <brynk> like a custom live cd?
[12:17] <xchi> yakumo you can search for that or ... just a min
[12:17] <xchi>  il am going for tea
[12:17] <xchi> will be back
[12:17] <French> back
[12:17] <rbrick> guys, i use ntlm aps to go through my univ proxy and it works fine for http and this irc, but whenever i want to update using sudo apt-get update it always give me 407 proxy authentication required error. anyone know how to get around this problem please?
[12:17] <yakumo> thnks
[12:18] <jonah1980_2> please anyone that can help me out?
[12:18] <umts_hates_me> does any1 of u know, if there happened some better hardware support fpr umts (3g) usb-box modems ind 6.06 or 6.10?
[12:18] <PURESKILLZZZ> yakumo there already is a live cd why you need a dvd ??
[12:18] <yakumo> i want to convert my AVI video to dvd video is it possible?
[12:18] <hodden> Need help from one with special skills in ubuntu and java j2me jwk.... pls...
[12:18] <PURESKILLZZZ> rbrick you have to have yout sources.list set up correctly dfor the packages you want
[12:19] <brynk> anyone in here using an epson aculaser c1100 printer?
[12:19] <brynk> or something close to that
[12:19] <foureight84> sorry for that my computer froz
[12:19] <foureight84> e
[12:20] <foureight84> like i was saying, my cf card only automounts on startup. but when i remove it, i have to manually remount
[12:20] <rbrick> PURESKILLZZZ - so you meant i have to edit my source list?
[12:20] <AWOSDev> brynk, my last Epson was an LK-80 Dot Matrix, in 1988...but what's your problem?
[12:20] <yakumo> cause i want to watch it on my dvd player.
[12:20] <PURESKILLZZZ> rbrick yes becasue you may be using worng set=up .. make sure if its edgy all is edgy or is breezy all is breezy
[12:21] <brynk> c1100 is not natively supported, i downloaded the drivers, but can't get it to work
[12:21] <rbrick> PURESKILLZZZ - mine is dapper, okay will search around to find out about this thanks :)
[12:21] <brynk> i did it on my last install, but i don't know what i did differently then
[12:22] <foureight84> PURESKILLZZZ, how do i access the option to autodetect my cf card
[12:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> brynk a trick to printers is if u have a win machine install there and add extra drivers with it for linux .. Then share n network and let linux find it .. Drivers will work easier that way when you plug it into the linux machine
[12:22] <hodden> I get "Failed to extract JavaVersionTester class" when trying to install j2me wtk
[12:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> foureight84 not sure which option it is as all my installs it works ...
[12:23] <foureight84> hmm odd
[12:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> I have installed ubuntu now on over 40 machines and laptops
[12:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> Just got serv-u working tonight
[12:24] <PURESKILLZZZ> started with version 4.1.0.3 then got 5.0.0.0 to work
[12:24] <PURESKILLZZZ> applied to be a super maintainer
[12:24] <yakumo> can DVD Creator convert avi video to dvd?
[12:25] <AWOSDev> I should go to bed now.
[12:25] <AWOSDev> G'night all
[12:25] <PURESKILLZZZ> yakumo dont think so .... Believe you have to convert the avi to mpeg first
[12:25] <RodrigoNSH> Hi, anyone with a funny bug in in network/// ? Appears a mshome under "Windows Networking" with an blank icon that leads to a error popup ... "smb:///mshome" ... then the icon fix itself and links to smb://mshome ?
[12:26] <PURESKILLZZZ> RodrigoNSH when you are setting up your network like with sharing you have to stop and restart the services after you have made any changes
[12:26] <yakumo> how will i convert avi to mpeg?
[12:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> yakumo get an mpeg encoder
 hummm, I'll try that, thanks
[12:27] <sonics> hum, If I just got a .ttf file, where do I have to put it?
[12:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> No Problem !!!!!!!!! anytime
[12:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> yakumo http://www.videohelp.com/
 .fonts
[12:28] <opensorcerer> hello.. first time in #ubuntu :D
[12:28] <PURESKILLZZZ> hi
[12:28] <sonics> ~/.fonts?
[12:28] <RodrigoNSH> yep
[12:28] <mark_> hm, when I want to make a backup copy of .evolution, it stalls
[12:28] <yakumo> ok
[12:28] <mark_> without any message on the console
[12:29] <mark_> any hints on how to solve this?
[12:29] <Mir1> hey, i dunno how to set up my wlan, is there anyone who got Netgear wgr614 v6 ???
[12:29] <sladen> cp -av .evolution .evolution-backup
[12:29] <mark_> I can't seem to find any hints in /var/log either
[12:29] <mark_> sladen, I know that _should_ be able to do the trick
[12:29] <sonics> RodrigoNSH: theres no such folder
[12:29] <PURESKILLZZZ> ok folks I have help all I can atm I have to sleep now
[12:29] <cherubiel> sonics: create one.
[12:30] <basanta> does ubuntu have support for SATA hdd?
[12:30] <PURESKILLZZZ> Current Time Time:6:30am Day:Thursday Date:October 19th 2006 TimeZone:GMT -5:00 I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n
[12:30] <sladen> mark_: right, and what happens when you do that?
[12:30] <sonics> ok ill try
[12:30] <sonics> brb
[12:30] <PURESKILLZZZ> basanta worked on 2 machines not on the 3rd ... Depends on motherboard driver
[12:30] <mark_> it just freezes after having copied a few files...
[12:30] <mark_> not that it gives any explicit I/O errors or anything
[12:31] <basanta> PURESKILLZZZ, oh
[12:31] <Mir1> does anyone know how to setup wlan router Netgear wgr614 v6
[12:31] <Mir1> ??? plz
[12:31] <basanta> PURESKILLZZZ, is it determined by the kernel?
[12:32] <PURESKILLZZZ> basanta Yes and also the drivers on the motherboard .. You may have to do a custom install and add drivers if unbuntu doesnt see them
[12:32] <cherubiel> basanta: you talk abt the sata controller support, not the drive
[12:32] <PURESKILLZZZ> Mir1 If I am not wrong its pretty much self explanitory just log into page http://192.168.1.1 and most links are easy to follow
[12:32] <cherubiel> basanta: if the kernel has support for your controller, you are good -
[12:33] <yakumo> anyone familiar with APTonCD?
[12:33] <Guest426> "Bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" does anybody know how to fix it? my system is stuck for 2 days now...
[12:33] <sonics> hm I copied to ~/.fonts/ folder and relogged into X but the font isnt there :[
[12:33] <mark_> sladen, sorry, overlooked the -v option
[12:33] <mark_> bit stupid of me
[12:34] <mark_> looking into it right now
[12:34] <opensorcerer> i installed kubuntu-desktop and now when I search in gnome help all I get are kde help results, how do I go back to the original setup?
[12:34] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, strange ... its working here... try ctrl+l
[12:34] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, then fonts://
[12:34] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, in nautilus
[12:34] <gilligan_> Guest426, you may want to try a newer kernel
[12:34] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, paste it i there
[12:35] <mark_> sladen, thx
[12:35] <Mir1> ffs, noone ever got problems with wlan router or what? ))
[12:36] <AWOSDev> bedtime
[12:36] <sonics> uhm, how?! dunno what u mean exactly :)
[12:36] <AWOSDev> G'night all :)
[12:36] <PURESKILLZZZ> To clarify my statement I have installed ubuntu sucessfully on 2 sata systems and the 3rd sata system I couldn't get the correct drivers
[12:36] <AWOSDev> opensorcerer, update-alternatives gdm, then remove all the KDE apps
[12:36] <AWOSDev> no g'night
[12:36] <AWOSDev> s/no/now/
[12:36] <RodrigoNSH> sonics,  in nautilus press ctrl+l the type fonts:// and paste the TTF in this ... place
[12:37] <sladen> mark_: Unix commands by default do not print anything on success.  If you're copying a large amound of email, that will take a *long* time.  '-v' is for 'verbose' which means "print detailed information even if you're successful"
[12:37] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, do not do it as sudo nautilus, it will create a /root/,fonts
[12:38] <PURESKILLZZZ> OK .. Nitey nite folks
[12:38] <teckfatt> hello, i have a external HD using ext3 filesystem, when i plug in to the computer, it show the partition own by the root. can i know how to change to USER right everytime i plug in??
[12:38] <sonics> RodrigoNSH: nuffin happens when I try to paste... agh
[12:39] <Guest426> gilligan, i think i have the latest smp kernel running, i did a complete dist-upgrade yesterday
[12:40] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, humm make sure there is a .fonts in your home... and you have the permissions
[12:40] <Guest426> but even the cd boot brings the same error now
[12:41] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, browse the .fonts and change the permission of the TTF to read/write ... and then restart X
[12:41] <sonics> 1hmm ok..
[12:41] <xchi> CD - DVD - mkdvdiso.sh search it in google
[12:42] <xchi> but what about DVD - CD
[12:42] <xchi> i just came back from tea
[12:42] <PURESKILLZZZ> xchi st426> "Bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" does anybody know how to fix it? my system is stuck for 2 days now...
[12:42] <PURESKILLZZZ> [6:33am]  sonics (n=sonics@p54B279DB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined. 863 people
[12:42] <PURESKILLZZZ> qwertymn in #winehq at 6:33am PURESKILLZZZ, you've sent in tree times ...
[12:42] <PURESKILLZZZ> [6:33am]  <sonics>
[12:42] <teckfatt> hello, i have a external HD using ext3 filesystem, when i plug in to the computer, it auto mount and show the partition own by the root. can i know how to change to USER rw everytime i plug in??
[12:42] <PURESKILLZZZ> damm
[12:42] <PURESKILLZZZ> xchi http://www.videohelp.com/
[12:43] <sonics> RodrigoNSH: what terminal font are you using?
[12:43] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, monospace?
[12:44] <jmspeex> is it possible to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[12:45] <sonics> RodrigoNSH: Isnt there any font that looks better?
[12:45] <gunfus> ubuto tell angel about linux source
[12:45] <gunfus> #ubuto tell angel about linux source
[12:45] <gunfus> @ubuto tell angel about linux source
[12:46] <gunfus> okay well nevermind
[12:46] <gunfus>  can someone point me out to how to get the source of my kernel?
[12:46] <sharperguy> !linux-source
[12:46] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:46] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, to me it fits well
[12:47] <sonics> ok.
[12:47] <haboy_> my ubuntu 6.06 LTS won't start anymore after reformatting windows. but my windows is on a different partition. there is no GRUB BOOT LOADER anymore showing
[12:47] <gunfus> !ubotu tell angel about linux-source
[12:47] <sonics> RodrigoNSH: which xterm do u use?!
[12:47] <opensorcerer> @haboy that happened to me to
[12:47] <opensorcerer> too
[12:47] <wursthase> !fixgrub
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <wursthase> !fixboot
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <RodrigoNSH> sonics, gnome-terminal
[12:48] <haboy_> wursthase: how???
[12:48] <sonics> alright, so its same, thanx :D
[12:48] <sharperguy> theres a way to fix grub on the live cd i think
[12:48] <gunfus> sharperguy: ho do I install it?
[12:48] <sharperguy> let me google it
[12:49] <bun-bun> gunfus# do uname -r in a terminal to get your kernel version and then use the synaptic package manager
[12:49] <haboy_> opensorcerer. i only got 6.06 LTS through update. i dont want to repeat the whole operetion again
[12:49] <Mir1> ......is there a faq or howto for wlan setup?
[12:49] <bun-bun> !wlan
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <NerdCaca> !smartmon
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartmon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <mnepton> Mir1: WEP, WPA, WPA-PSK, WPA2 .... ?
[12:50] <fresch> when i start compiz, the window decorations dissappear and the windows contents are unresponsive. nvidia driver installed and working. any clues?
[12:50] <haboy_> opensorcerer: have you fixed your problem with it??
[12:51] <mnepton> fresch: you might want to read the /topic before continuing
[12:51] <joshier> Guys, I'm really excited about ubuntu 6.10, but I've been fairly busy latley and my ubuntu setup on this laptop went wrong. It was fairly long ago, but I *really* want to fix it because I don't want to setup my graphics, sound, etc all up again. The problem I get is that I installed a big update, and when I try to login, it jumps right back out. Is there any solution? Thanks
[12:51] <fresch> mnepton, so how does a security bug in nvidia relate to my question!?
[12:52] <mnepton> fresch: it relates to yuor question because you're using the nVidia driver, and there is a remote root exploit for it.
[12:52] <mnepton> fresch: which translates to "you probably do not want to use the nVidia driver"
[12:52] <munkay> Mir1: are you able to access the router without any security?
[12:53] <fresch> mnepton, i FAIL to see how this security root exploit relates to "compiz not working right"
[12:53] <haboy_> my ubuntu 6.06 LTS won't start anymore after reformatting windows. but my windows is on a different partition. there is no GRUB BOOT LOADER anymore showing
[12:53] <munkay> !grub
[12:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:53] <munkay> haboy_: ^^
[12:54] <haboy_> munkay: can you help?
[12:54] <mnepton> fresch: "nVidia driver installed and working" (your words) is translated by anyone caring about system security to "my machine is open to a remote buffer overflow exploit." which is not good.
[12:54] <munkay> haboy_: just follow the instructions line-by-line, its well documented.
[12:55] <haboy_> munkay: thank god i dont have to repeat the backup then reformat thing
[12:55] <cherubiel> heh :)
[12:55] <fresch> mnepton, are you suggestiong i should go and buy a ati card!? all i want is to run compiz. and my xserver isnt accepting ANY tcp connections, so there should NOT be a problem
[12:56] <mnepton> fresch: i'm suggesting, as the /topic says, that you start by switching from the "nvidia" driver to the "nv" driver, and *then* worrying about compiz
[12:56] <haboy_> munkay: does the instruction really meant the "alternate CD" not "Desktop CD" "Live CD" or whatsoever
[12:56] <spocky> hi
[12:56] <bun-bun> fresch# i believe he was merely pointing it out.  furthermore, you just might want to try that other driver and see if it settles your issues
[12:56] <mnepton> fresch: and the X server does not have to accept remote connections
[12:56] <mnepton> it is still vulnerable.
[12:57] <fresch> mnepton, sure, then i wont be able to run compiz, since the nv driver does not do hw accel
[12:57] <mnepton> fresch: which is why i said "you might want to look at the /topic first"
[12:57] <MiCCAS> hi
[12:58] <sonics> uhm, since ubuntu generally creates this automounted harddrives on my desktop, how can I permanently *only* remove them from desktop?
[12:58] <yakumo> anyone familiar using devede?
[12:58] <cherubiel> haboy_:both methods are documented.
[12:58] <rambo3> is there more info about this nvidia bug.
[12:58] <mnepton> rambo3: all over the place. try /.
[12:58] <Windwalker> Hi. Can somebody tell how can I check which package smbspool belongs to
[12:59] <mnepton> it's a buffer overflow relating to bitmap font parsing
[01:00] <mnepton> basically, ask any machine running the nVidia binary blob to render a 1px by 16,000px bitmap font and *boom* buffer overflow on a root process
[01:00] <cherubiel> Windwalker: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:00] <mnepton> so, even visiting a web page can lead to someone having root access to your machine
[01:00] <Windwalker> I forgot the command. There was a command to check this from the console
[01:00] <sonics> how can I remove the harddrives mounted on desktop without umounting them? simply removing them from desktop?
[01:01] <cherubiel> !packages
[01:01] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:01] <Windwalker> I do not want to install anything
[01:02] <Windwalker> just want to know smbspool to which package belongs with console command. I knew it a month ago..
[01:02] <fresch> mnepton, yeah, ok, nice... so i'll be careful watching images on the web, heck, i wont even SURF the web while having the nvidia driver loaded (which i will continue to do, since I REALLY WANT HW ACCEL). so there. now, how about my compiz problem?
[01:02] <rambo3> NVIDIA's  first public acknowledgement of this bug was on July 7th, 2006. dating back to 2004 .  i dd use nvidia driver
[01:02] <mnepton> fresch: it's any font. in anything. a web page. a text document. anything.
[01:03] <fresch> mnepton, so you are saying my problem could be that compiz is asking to render a crazy image?
[01:03] <joshier> Where is the latest edgy release?
[01:03] <cherubiel> Windwalker: apt-cache search ?
[01:04] <mnepton> fresch: i'm saying that preferring hardware acceleration and eye candy to system security and stability is a really, really poor choice, IMO.
[01:04] <fresch> mnepton, its just my almost always offline desktop machine at home.
[01:04] <Windwalker> cherubiel: Thank you!!!
[01:05] <fresch> mnepton, and i never had any problems with nvidia drivers
[01:05] <mnepton> fresch: cosidering the bug was indetified outside nVidia 4 days ago, that doesn;t surprise me
[01:05] <sharperguy> mnepton, fresch, etc could you take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[01:06] <sonics> how can I remove the harddrives mounted on desktop without umounting them? simply removing them from desktop?
[01:06] <sonics> pllz :D
[01:07] <fresch> nevermind... i'll try to google around, thanks for the (not-)help, anyway
[01:08] <Windwalker> sonics: do you mean icons?
[01:08] <sonics> yups..
[01:08] <MistaED> sonics: run gconf-editor and go >apps>nautilus>desktop> and just tick/untick there
[01:08] <mnepton> you try to help some people ....
[01:08] <sonics> if I try to remove them
[01:08] <Goldwing> ok, stupid question, but i'm trying to install kismet, but apt-cache search kismet, no results, when i go to the http://packages.ubuntu.com/ i can find them, but what is the codename for the 6.06 LTS?????
[01:08] <sonics> yay thxx guys=)
[01:08] <kaning> does anyone know when this month 6.10 is going to be released?
[01:08] <mnepton> Goldwing: Dapper Drake
[01:09] <MistaED> or run configuration editor from applications > system tools > if it's there, usually it's hidden
[01:09] <highvoltage> kaning: seems like a week from now
[01:09] <Goldwing> mnepton : THX.
[01:09] <rambo3> 26 th
[01:09] <kaning> brilliant
[01:09] <kaning> can't wait
[01:09] <mnepton> Goldwing: be sure to enable the Universe and Multiverse repos
[01:09] <spocky> does anyone know a way to syncronize firefox and Konqueror bookmarks?
[01:09] <Goldwing> mnepton : uuuuuhhh???
[01:09] <Windwalker> cd ~/Desktop and then just ls and remove the ones you do not want? I guess this should help
[01:09] <mnepton> Goldwing: got Synaptic open?
[01:09] <hodden> I can't get j2me wtk running on my ubuntu pls... need help!
[01:09] <Goldwing> nope
[01:09] <spocky> where does Konqueror store its bookmarks anyway
[01:09] <MistaED> kaning: the release candidate is today, 19th october
[01:09] <spocky> ?
[01:10] <kaning> no kidding, that snuck up on me
[01:10] <Windwalker> Anybody familiar with printing on both KDE and Gnome to SMB shared printers?
[01:10] <Goldwing> mnepton : now i do
[01:10] <spocky> I did not find anything in ~/.kde
[01:10] <kaning> windwalker: yeah i've done it successfully a few times
[01:10] <mnepton> Goldwing: Settings->Repositories->Add
[01:11] <Windwalker> kaning: I am trying to migrate from Gnome to Kde but minolta 1400W just will not print over smb on XP home
[01:11] <Windwalker> same works with my gnome on Dapper without updates
[01:11] <Goldwing> mnepton Ok
[01:11] <Windwalker> using edgi Kubuntu for the test
[01:11] <Goldwing> mnepton  got it
[01:12] <kaning> i have only used SMP/CUPS in Gnome
[01:12] <Windwalker> kaning: updated all print related packages but no change...
[01:12] <kaning> never tried it in KDE
[01:12] <Windwalker> just like me
[01:12] <davvs> how do i change the update frequency for a monitor in xorg.conf?
[01:12] <Windwalker> no probs...but kde....dont know
[01:12] <kaning> i think i feel more at home with Gnome
[01:13] <Windwalker> the smbspool spools but winxp just holds the spooled job
[01:13] <kaning> how about permissions
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> !fixres > davvs
[01:13] <kaning> ?
[01:13] <Windwalker> The problem is that KDE is lighter than KDE and I intend to run Freenx terminal server
[01:13] <Windwalker> XP home?
[01:13] <Windwalker> what permissions
[01:13] <kaning> yeah
[01:13] <Windwalker> hm
[01:13] <kaning> i take it you have shared the printer
[01:14] <Windwalker> think just kde stufff
[01:14] <Windwalker> course
[01:14] <Windwalker> As I said i see the job spooled in XP home
[01:14] <kaning> oh ok
[01:14] <hikenboot> hello all---anyone know how to remove the nvidia driver if the driver was installed with the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run package?
[01:14] <Windwalker> However you might be right I remembered something..
[01:15] <neutrinomass> Is it possible to boot a livecd from the hard disk? I've dd-ed the image to a partition, but I'm not sure how to make grub boot to it ...
[01:15] <hikenboot> I am having difficulties so want to remove it and install with the nvidia package
[01:15] <Windwalker> I tried this again a month ago under XP pro and KDE would not print unless there is 100% user set with password
[01:15] <kaning> that's wierd
[01:15] <Windwalker> on the XP pro I mean...:) Probably this is the problem
[01:15] <kaning> oh ok
[01:16] <rabautz> neutrinomass: Most live-cds bring an own installer
[01:16] <kaning> see what happens
[01:16] <Windwalker> I will try this on xp pro and then see if it matters, but that is really strange
[01:16] <neutrinomass> rabautz: I'm not sure you understood me correctly. I want to boot the livecd image from a hard disk (because I don't have any CDs to write to)
[01:17] <rabautz> neutrinomass: ahh, no - then i didn't understand you ;)
[01:17] <Windwalker> kaning: can you propose an alternative to pessulus.
[01:17] <neutrinomass> (and no floppy and no means of netinstall and I don't really understand the procedures under "installing ubuntu from another distribution"
[01:17] <Windwalker> I am new at linux :(
[01:18] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, That's not an easy thing to do. You'd be installing it manually to the hard drive since you can't boot an iso without virtualization
[01:18] <neutrinomass> waylandbill: I already dd'ed the image...
[01:19] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, you put the files onto a partition? You need to set up the boot loader to find and boot em.
[01:20] <Windwalker> can somebody suggest an alternative of pessulus. I have to secure a terminal server from inside.
[01:20] <neutrinomass> waylandbill: Yes, but how do livecd's boot ? :) I'm not sure grub can boot the image of the cd ...
[01:20] <s_spiff> hey can i install compiz and log into it during bootup? like we do for gnome?
[01:20] <s_spiff> !compiz
[01:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:20] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, you're probably right. You'd need to modify the fstab.
[01:21] <kaning> s_spiff: check out the wiki at ubuntu. pretty straight
[01:21] <neutrinomass> I'll try the debootstrap solution probably :(
[01:21] <s_spiff> kaning, just doing that.. thanks. sorry for the noobish question
[01:21] <kaning> at the wiki homepage search for composite manager
[01:21] <rabautz> neutrinomass: you could use vmware to boot the CD, that would be easy..
[01:22] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, why not find a disk image from a running linux?
[01:22] <kaning> s_spiff: i'm a noob myself but after three different compiz installations i know where to find it
[01:22] <neutrinomass> waylandbill: Because I want to do a clean install :p
[01:22] <s_spiff> kaning, which is better? beryl? or compiz? i just wanna shift from metacity.
[01:23] <neutrinomass> bah... I might as well go out and buy some cds , heh
[01:23] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, you're CD drive dead or something?
[01:23] <waylandbill> oh.. no media. :-D
[01:23] <kaning> s_spiff: never tried beryl because i realised my laptop has a weak grapihics card, so i stick to metacity
[01:23] <waylandbill> they're cheap enough these days.
[01:23] <kaning> had to take compiz off as well
[01:24] <kaning> was a shame because it worked really well, the machine was just struggling
[01:24] <neutrinomass> waylandbill: No, I just don't have CDs, no floppy and I can't do a netinstall :-)
[01:24] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, I was thinking a PXE net install, but guess not. :-D
[01:26] <waylandbill> neutrinomass, you can use Qemu or VMware to install the 'clean
[01:26] <waylandbill>  system and tar it up to copy over
[01:27] <``> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables - anyone know how to fix this ?
[01:28] <``> ..hmm?
[01:29] <jonah1980> hi i'm getting an error "Error activating XKB configuration"
[01:29] <jonah1980> this is what it tell me to include if i bug report: http://pastebin.ca/209847
[01:30] <rabautz> C compiler default output ... : apt-get install build-essential
[01:30] <Bergcube> Does anybody know of a USB bluetooth thingy that works under Ubuntu?  (I have a laptop without bluetooth, and wants to add it...)
[01:31] <jonah1980> how can i exit gnome and get to terminal and close xserver etc to update graphics driver? tried alt-ctrl-f1 but doesn't do anything
[01:33] <miza> crtl-alt-bsp restarts the X-Server AFAIK - dunno if that is of any help
[01:33] <rabautz> jonah1980: /etc/init.d/gdm stop (if u use gdm)
[01:34] <sharperguy> wtf
[01:35] <kaning> bergcube: try sitecomm or something like that
[01:36] <kaning> worked out of the box for mw
[01:36] <kaning> me*
[01:36] <joshier> Could someone hook me up with the latest download (edgy 6.10) ?
[01:37] <hodden> I have a Radeon X300 (PCIE) but can't get it to work proper under ubuntu.... the graphic stops redraving and squars starts poping up.. every thing gets realy messy... anny ide on how to takle this problem ??
[01:37] <Bergcube> kaning~  How cool.  Thanks for the tip!
[01:38] <yarddog_> what is the dpkg command to force an upgrade regardless of deps, or how can I remove all openoffice.org?
[01:38] <damageDOne> Hey guys,  I was wondering if anyone can help me: I recently upgraded from breezy to dapper and have had the following problem. All system sounds, mp3s and movies have static/interference which occurs every two seconds for about 0.5secs to 1 sec. I have an audigy pro 2zs and have checked alsamixergui to ensure the levels are correct. This was not a problem at all on breezy. I have found that there is no problem with sound through firefox or
[01:38] <kaning> welcome
[01:38] <variant> joshier: if you have dapper you can upgrade to edgy very easilly
[01:39] <variant> damageDOne: make sure your programs are using the same audio output plugin as firefox, probably most apps are using oss for some reason while firefox is using alsa.. or the other way round
[01:40] <variant> damageDOne: open totem for example with an audio file
[01:40] <damageDOne> variant: okay. What should they use?
[01:40] <variant> damageDOne: and experiment with the different plugins.. see which is best
[01:40] <ReverseBlade> variant, hi
[01:41] <Code-E> !rar > code-e
[01:41] <alexbodn> hi all
[01:41] <kaning> damageDone: you might want to look at the libmp3xx plugins
[01:41] <alexbodn> i must have confused mozilla somehow, and crashed. when i want to restart it, it complains that the default profile is in use and fails to restart. any idea how to fix this?
[01:42] <damageDOne> variant: Okay I tried opening a sound file with totem and I get the static
[01:42] <kaning> they are not in the conventional repositories
[01:42] <Dimensions> hi is there any Front page style HTML EDITOR in ubuntu ??
[01:43] <alexbodn> Dimensions: try nvu
[01:43] <MistaED> Dimensions: there's nvu and some other one i can't remember
[01:43] <variant> damageDOne: change the output plugin
[01:43] <variant> damageDOne: I am not infront of an ubuntu box right now unfortunatly so i cant do it with you.. its in the preferences somewhere
[01:44] <damageDOne> variant: how do I do that. I've had a look in all the menus and I don't see plugins mentioned
[01:44] <variant> damageDOne: in settings/preferences whatever its called
[01:44] <damageDOne> variant:  oh?
[01:44] <neutrinomass> alexbodn: Hm... take a look in /home/yourusername/.mozilla/firefox/blahblah.default/ , there should be a file named 'lock'
[01:45] <jpjacobs> hi! how do i get rid of the samba password?
[01:45] <alexbodn> thanks. going there!
[01:45] <alexbodn> neutrinomass: should i delete it?
[01:46] <neutrinomass> alexbodn: yes, delete it :-)
[01:46] <alexbodn> deleting, thanks a lot
[01:46] <damageDOne> variant: okay. No sign of any plugins.
[01:47] <variant> damageDOne: sorry, pls wait
[01:47] <neutrinomass> alexbodn: ok now ?
[01:47] <damageDOne> variant: will do!
[01:47] <aixing> hey guys: speaking on nvu.. what is the actuall program that i install called. been looking thru Synaptic and apt-get cant find 'nvu'?
[01:47] <alexbodn> neutrinomass: did it, thanks a lot
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> aixing: You need to enable universe.
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> !universe > aixing
[01:48] <pip> how to change the resolving capability of screen ?
[01:48] <neutrinomass> !resolution
[01:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:48] <pip> it is only 60Hz to choose
[01:48] <variant> damageDOne: sorry, i am at work
[01:48] <variant> damageDOne: ok.. try killing esd
[01:48] <variant> damageDOne: in terminal do killall esd
[01:49] <damageDOne> variant: did it... nope
[01:49] <variant> damageDOne: check esd is no longer running
[01:49] <variant> damageDOne: killall esd again, if it says no such process then its dead if it says nothing then it was still running
[01:50] <damageDOne> variant: sorry... how do I do that?
[01:50] <variant> damageDOne: ^
[01:50] <aixing> tonyyaruso: thnx for that
[01:50] <damageDOne> variant: you are ahead of me...dave@ubuntu:~$ killall esd
[01:50] <damageDOne> esd: no process killed
[01:51] <Administrator> hello I installed a new kernel version 2.6.15 but when I boot it doesn see my network card anymore
[01:51] <bkdd> Hi
[01:51] <PumpkinPie> Administrator: you fucked up
[01:51] <Administrator> are there any serious ppl arround?
[01:52] <bkdd> when i try to connect to a ssh server via 'ssh' i get the error Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). at my client what to do ?
[01:52] <variant> damageDOne: ok, so it was killed then
[01:52] <damageDOne> variant: yep
[01:52] <variant> damageDOne: apt-get install alsaplayer
[01:53] <compengi> can someone guild me how to upgrade from gaim 2.0beta3.1 to 2.0beta4?
[01:53] <variant> damageDOne: its good for troubleshooting
[01:53] <damageDOne> variant: okay
[01:53] <variant> damageDOne: then do alsaplayer /path/to/file
[01:53] <variant> compengi: do you really need to?
[01:55] <alexbodn> bye friends
 can someone guild me how to upgrade from gaim 2.0beta3.1 to 2.0beta4?    <--------- lol
[01:55] <compengi> PumpkinPie, ?
[01:55] <damageDOne> variant: okay. I played a track and it's got static
[01:56] <PumpkinPie> why not skip to an alpha version? it probably works better
[01:56] <compengi> PumpkinPie, you mean 1.5?
[01:57] <PumpkinPie> dont be a beta version whore
[01:57] <PumpkinPie> like people that run windows vista
[01:57] <variant> damageDOne: I had this problem with vlc and some movie files
[01:57] <variant> damageDOne: but not to the extent you are
[01:57] <variant> damageDOne: if you play audio in firefox is it always fine? like flash site audio, streaming audio etc.. all fine?
[01:58] <damageDOne> variant: just in case this info helps: I did a cold reboot at one stage and it went away. Then it came back after a reboot at one point and a cold restart doesn't affect it anymore.
[01:58] <damageDOne> variant: I watched some flicks on YouTube and I played a flash game and both of them work fine.
[01:59] <variant> damageDOne: hmm
[01:59] <Enselic> If I want to record a video tutorial on GIMP, what program should I use?
[02:00] <variant> Enselic: xscreencap
[02:00] <damageDOne> variant: I just tried it with konqueror too.... and it's fine.
[02:00] <variant> Enselic: or vnc2swf
[02:01] <waspius> hi...does gnome use more resources than kde?
[02:01] <cheesy> good question waspius :)
[02:01] <Enselic> waspius: When doing what task?
[02:02] <variant> waspius: when idle, with default settings.. i have no idea. install both and test :)
[02:02] <variant> waspius: i am inclined to think that kde is more resource hog than gnome
[02:02] <Enselic> variant: Oh what a coincidence, I belive the same
[02:02] <variant> waspius: but really if your concerned (or even if your not) you should try xfce4.4
[02:03] <damageDOne> variant: I don't suppose you can suggest anywhere else I can try to look for the answer?
[02:03] <Alan-D> Could someboty help me concern clamav please
[02:03] <variant> waspius: xfce4.4 is miles ahead of kde/gnome in terms of system usage and its very very slick
[02:03] <damageDOne> variant: and don't say google. :)
[02:03] <variant> damageDOne: I am thinking the alsa mailinglist
[02:03] <variant> damageDOne: /join #alsa
[02:03] <MistaED> waspius: there was a test benchmark of gnome vs kde vs xfce vs windowmaker, in that test gnome used the most ram (i'll try digging it up for you)
[02:04] <damageDOne> variant: Thanks for everything. ciao
[02:04] <Enselic> variant: Neither of those apps seems to be available through apt-get
[02:04] <cheesy> MistaED: do you have the link?
[02:04] <variant> damageDOne: gl
[02:04] <MistaED> waspius: but in my experience with an old 128mb ram laptop, i've found kde to be the uttermost worst, followed by gnome still being usable, and xfce being tolerable
[02:04] <variant> Enselic: what apps?
[02:04] <Jhonny1009> is xgl easy installable on ubuntu 6.06?
[02:04] <Enselic> variant: xscreencap and vnc2swf
[02:04] <MistaED> cheesy: looking now
[02:04] <waspius> MistaED: so u would say that gnome is better
[02:05] <variant> Enselic: sorry that should be xvidcap
[02:05] <cowbud> is there a utility to look at io on a per process basis?
[02:05] <cheesy> Jhonny1009: use #ubuntu-xgl
[02:05] <compengi> variant, so can you guild me through that process?
[02:05] <Enselic> variant: Doesnt apt-get suport eiteher :
[02:05] <variant> compengi: what process?
[02:05] <Jhonny1009> will try cheesy, thx
[02:05] <variant> Enselic: i thought it would have
[02:05] <cheesy> np
[02:05] <MistaED> waspius: i'd say yes, although with gnome + openoffice vs kde + koffice it might be different, it really depends on your system specs
[02:05] <compengi> variant, to upgrade gaim
[02:06] <waspius> MistaED: ok
[02:06] <variant> compengi: why would you want to? download the source and compile it
[02:06] <variant> compengi: ask in the #gaim channel
[02:06] <MistaED> waspius, cheesy: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
[02:07] <compengi> variant, is this is a source for ubuntu gaim-2.0.0-0.beta4.fc1.i386.rpm?
[02:07] <cheesy> thanks MistaED
[02:07] <waspius> MistaED: thanx
[02:07] <variant> Enselic: gvidcap lol
[02:07] <MistaED> very biased towards kde, with my tests it was with edgy eft and not opensuse 10
[02:07] <kisyam> Hi all, pls i need help some help pls, when i type this(sudo apt-get install build-essential) at the terminal, it return error
[02:08] <variant> kisyam: type it without the ()
[02:08] <kisyam> yes
[02:08] <Slaj_R> Question -- I added this line to the Applications menu in Gnome: "cd /home/lyle/Music; vi Best_Songs". It works when typed at the $ prompt, but not when clicked in the gnome menu.  What happens instead is the terminal flickers on, then off.
[02:08] <Enselic> variant: Nope :) thanks for the attempts though, seems as if xvidcap is what I want, ill install it manually
[02:08] <smoser> any one have any hints: I can send mail with evolution.  However, forwarding mail dies silently.
[02:08] <variant> kisyam: what is the error? if it is long put it on nopaste.org
[02:08] <kisyam> variant, i typed just in ()
[02:08] <smoser> i'm on dapper
[02:08] <variant> Enselic: http://www.jarre-de-the.net/computing/debian/
[02:08] <variant> Enselic: http://www.jarre-de-the.net/computing/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/xvidcap_1.1.3-1_i386.deb
[02:09] <kisyam> variant, it return : could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)
[02:09] <MistaED> waspius, cheesy: to be truthful, i'm not sure what makes ubuntu slow but i've now installed some slackware-based distro called zenwalk 3 onto this said laptop and found extreme performance increases, it uses the latest xfce for the desktop
[02:09] <Enselic> variant: Thanks a lot
[02:09] <kisyam> variant : and it returns here too : E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:10] <edscho> Anyone know what the Debian way is to replace an official package (beagle) by one built from source? Removing the package with apt-get will also remove dependencies. Can I make a stub package to prevent this?
[02:10] <cheesy> MistaED: the test is interesting, never thought gnome uses more memory than kde
[02:12] <kaning> running update-manager on test machine now. so far so good
[02:12] <jonah1980> hi i'm back yet again. ok it's driving me bonkers! when i install the nvidia driver or the beta driver which is the one i tried last cos thought it might work, x server doesn't start and says there's an api mismatch and the kernel-module and the driver version numbers don't match or something!! so i have to edit xorg.conf and put "nv" and reboot to get things working again. been trying to get an nvidia driver working for 3 and half hours
[02:12] <jonah1980>  now - it used to work fine when i upgraded to edgy, but then i tried installing newer driver to use compiz etc - what am i doing wrong?
[02:14] <edscho> jonah1980: don't know, sorry. i gave up on the binary nvidia driver. i now stick with nv and my life's now much simpler.
[02:14] <rabautz> jonah1980: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:15] <edscho> Anyone know what the Debian way is to replace an official package (beagle) by one built from source? Removing the package with apt-get will also remove dependencies. Can I make a stub package to prevent this?
[02:15] <variant> kisyam: you must have annother program open like synaptic or auto updater
[02:16] <jonah1980> rabautz, it says it's already the newest version
[02:16] <mnepton> jonah1980: using the nvidia driver is a very bad idea right now
[02:16] <variant> jonah1980: not an answer to your question but you dont need to reboot under those circumstances, just run /etc/init.d/gdm restart (from an xterm or virtual terminal)
[02:16] <whitehorseNTiger> quick question...how do I know the correct keymap I am currently using.
[02:17] <mnepton> jonah1980: the nv driver is the best bet until nVidia wakes up
[02:17] <variant> untill nvidia release specs for there hardware..
[02:17] <user____> mnepton... there was something about the nvidia driver on the (web) news today... what happened?
[02:17] <kisyam> variant : sorry, i am really new to ubuntu , how can i know that synaptic is installed in my ubuntu (is it automatically installed with breezy) ?
[02:17] <mnepton> or "Return Of The Blob" appears in theaters
[02:18] <kisyam> variant : or may be i have to download the program?
[02:18] <variant> kisyam: yes its installed, you need to make sure its not running, thats why you get those errors
[02:18] <mnepton> user____: buffer overflow root exploit in bitmap font rednering routines
[02:18] <variant> kisyam: close all open programs on your desktop (not this irc though) to be sure
[02:18] <rabautz> jonah1980: Fo rme that was all. Installing the package and changing nv to nvidia - i have this from the german ubuntu wiki - article Xgl - i think it is just a translation of the official Wiki-article so look ther
[02:18] <user____> mnepton.. shit
[02:18] <MistaED> jonah1980: you're probably using dapper so this wouldn't work, but if you have edgy eft add this to your repos: deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm
[02:19] <jstew> Hi. How do I add a truetype font to ubuntu?
[02:19] <Alakazamz0r> http://news.com.com/Windows+virus+worms+onto+some+Apple+iPods/2100-7349_3-6126804.html?tag=nl
[02:19] <variant> !fonts
[02:19] <jstew> I see I have a /usr/share/fonts/truetype dir
[02:19] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:19] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[02:19] <mnepton> jonah1980: you do not need to install the nvidia binary blob. it is part of the Restricted repo and installed by default.
[02:19] <waspius> how do i change my source list in gnome?
[02:19] <MistaED> jonah1980: this contains the latest nvidia driver release in-sync with the edgy kernel updates
[02:19] <variant> jstew: ^
[02:19] <jstew> ty ubotu and variant
[02:19] <variant> waspius: open gnome-terminal ant type sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <jstew> I guess ubotu is a bot lol
[02:19] <waspius> variant: thanx
[02:20] <variant> jstew: correct :)
[02:20] <Toma-> jstew: uyesu :)
[02:20] <jonah1980> MistaED, funny you should say that cos got edgy so it should work, but i'm amd64 so it won't let me add the repo source
[02:20] <kisyam> variant : ic, thanks
[02:21] <MistaED> jonah1980: ah bugger
[02:21] <variant> kisyam: apt-get is the program you use to install other programs (as your aware) any other program like synaptic that allows you to install software is also just an interface to the apt program (actually apt is just an interface to dpkg :)
[02:21] <jonah1980> MistaED, is my problem cos i'm on 64bit do you think? they've not "synced" yet or whatever
[02:22] <whitehorseNTiger> What is the default keymap for Ubuntu?  'locate us.kmap' gives me too many options.
[02:22] <MistaED> jonah1980: amaranth probably doesn't make an amd64 nvidia module, which sucks
[02:23] <MistaED> although i'm forever grateful for the i386 release of it :)
[02:23] <jonah1980> MistaED, is there anywhere else i can get one?
[02:23] <patient> Hi jonah1980
[02:24] <jonah1980> patient, hi there
[02:24] <patient> Where u at, i'm in Kinshasa
[02:24] <jonah1980> i don't even know what this api mismatch thing means
[02:24] <MistaED> jonah1980: hmm probably not, but try searching the forums
[02:24] <jonah1980> patient, i'm at york, england uk
[02:24] <compengi> what are differences in releases between edgy and dapper?
[02:25] <compengi> i mean what are the new updates in edgy
[02:25] <jonah1980> compegi, gotta say the main one is they've rounded of the bottom side window corners! yeah!!
[02:25] <Toma-> compengi: updated numbers basically
[02:25] <jrib> compengi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft see the beta release page
[02:26] <Matii> err:wave:OSS_OpenDevice ioctl(/dev/dsp, SNDCTL_DSP_SETTRIGGER, 3) failed (Broken pipe)
[02:26] <mnepton> jonah1980: the binary nVidia driver is *included* with Ubuntu. you don;t have to download anything.
[02:26] <MistaED> jonah1980: this is where i got that repo from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 they might have an amd64 repository somewhere in the thread
[02:27] <Delano> Yo
[02:27] <mnepton> jonah1980: even so, i would not use it. there is a giant, terrible security hole.
[02:27] <Delano> What other WMs do you get for Ubuntu besides KDE, XFCE, GNOME and Blackbox?
[02:27] <MistaED> does the 9625/9626 driver suffer from the security hole?
[02:27] <patient> Since u'r usin' Ub?
[02:28] <mnepton> MistaED: anything except the beta driver (which doesn;t work for 90% of people) has the bug.
[02:28] <jonah1980> mneption, but i downloaded the beta driver from nvidia as the .run installer thing so surely that includes everything i should need, so what's with this mismatch thing?
[02:29] <MistaED> jonah1980: the mismatch is caused by the nvidia driver installed from the repos, so you've constantly got to reinstall the driver whenever you boot into ubuntu before getting into xorg, which is one big pain in the butt
[02:29] <MistaED> (reinstall the .run one from nvidia that is)
[02:29] <mnepton> jonah1980: that beta driver works only on Edgy, and even then only for a small subset of users. it's a beta.
[02:29] <Matii> Can someone me wiht ventrilo? When I press the speaking key this comes to console :err:wave:OSS_OpenDevice ioctl(/dev/dsp, SNDCTL_DSP_SETTRIGGER, 3) failed (Broken pipe)
[02:29] <Delano> Hey, I need help with video card drivers
[02:30] <Matii> I'm using it with wine
[02:30] <jonah1980> oh well i'll jsut have to give up i guess for now
[02:30] <mnepton> jonah1980: the best bet for now is to just use the nv driver
[02:30] <MistaED> matii: use winecfg, and go under audio and make sure you pick alsa instead of the oss default
[02:31] <compengi> which is better, to upgrade into edgy or format and install?
[02:31] <Matii> MistaED: when i press the audio, winecfg crashes
[02:31] <variant> compengi: ifyou have an existing install just upgrade
[02:31] <jonah1980> mneption, only prob is i would like to use compiz, which isn't working with nv driver, when i enable the gl desktop i just lose the borders and titlebars from my windows
[02:31] <MistaED> Matii: yes this happened to me sadly also, you need to update your wine version if you can
[02:32] <variant> jonah1980: nv driver only supports 2d acceleration
[02:32] <Matii> ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:559:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave, Creating link /home/matii/.kde/socket-loota., can't create mcop directory
[02:32] <Matii> MistaED: Which version is the latest?
[02:32] <MistaED> Matii: no idea really, winehq.com should say
[02:32] <Matii> Oh It's 0.9.23 and I have Wine 0.9.23
[02:33] <noname> can some one help me with totem?
[02:33] <apokryphos> !helpme
[02:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:33] <MistaED> Matii: oh... hmm, try searching for the solution on the forums :S it's a fairly well known bug
[02:33] <Matii> MistaED: Ok thanks
[02:33] <nameco> is there a runnable bittorrent in ubuntu like micro torrent  that you can choose any files inside the torrent?
[02:33] <MistaED> np
[02:34] <nameco> :(
[02:34] <apokryphos> nameco: I think it's possible even with azureus, but ktorrent definitely does it
[02:34] <noname> alright it keeps throwing errors when running mpeg maybe im just stupid but i can hardly get any movies to play
[02:34] <nameco> thks!
[02:34] <apokryphos> noname: please read the FAQ first
[02:35] <nameco> apokryphos, does ktorrent run in ubuntu 5.10?
[02:36] <apokryphos> nameco: indeed, you can install it from Synaptic
[02:36] <apokryphos> !info ktorrent
[02:36] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[02:36] <apokryphos> in main, even
[02:38] <XiXaQ> Does Evolution download mails even when I close it down?
[02:38] <Alakazamz0r> XiXaQ: a deamon
[02:39] <chrissturm_> i need to buy an usb2 hub, and i'd like to know if there are performance differences or if i can just go with the cheapest
[02:39] <XiXaQ> Alakazamz0r, I didn't understand that reply.
[02:39] <Alakazamz0r> it has a background service
[02:39] <XiXaQ> so then it does download messages even if I close the program?
[02:39] <eXistenZ> What RSS viewer do you guys prefer?
[02:41] <TeemuR> hi! how can i use the GUI as root?
[02:41] <jstew> XiXaQ: I dont believe that evolution does that
[02:42] <Alan-D> Does anybody here use clamav virus software?
[02:42] <jstew> There may be an option to deamonize evoltion but I never used it when I used th evolution client
[02:43] <jstew> I use it on my mail server Alan-D
[02:43] <brynk> TeemuR: you have to enable the root user first, it's not a very good idea though..
[02:43] <rabautz> Alan-D: Yes
[02:43] <jstew> Why would you want to use X as root?
[02:43] <Alan-D> Jstew: I'am having problems install it. Can you help me?
[02:43] <jstew> dangerous.
[02:43] <jstew> Whats the problem Alan-D?
[02:44] <Delano> Yeah
[02:44] <Delano> X as root is dangerous indeed
[02:44] <Delano> I messed up my xorg.conf like that
[02:44] <apokryphos> and there's no need to ever do it
[02:44] <jstew> I feel naughty runnign mythtv fromtend suid root even
[02:45] <Delano> I would disagree
[02:45] <Alan-D> I did the apt-get....clamva.  The application tranferred, but I can't find the install application to setup the mail address and scheduler
[02:45] <Matii> I get this error in console when speaking in ventrilo running via wine: err:wave:OSS_OpenDevice ioctl(/dev/dsp, SNDCTL_DSP_SETTRIGGER, 3) failed (Broken pipe)
[02:45] <Delano> If you're dumb enough - like me - to mess your system up as root, then you souldn't have a computer :oD
[02:45] <jstew> I think you need extra software to use clamav in that way
[02:45] <jstew> leeme check
[02:46] <mnepton> Alan-D: are you running a mail server?
[02:47] <Alan-D> jstew:I try to install 2 ways throught the apt-get and through the gui install
[02:47] <Alan-D> Jstew: same results
[02:47] <AngryElf_> why is it that packages(mysql5, apache2) are constantly out of date espescially when there are known vulnerabilities to the versions in ubuntu published on the products websites?
[02:47] <Alan-D> mnepton: no a file server
[02:47] <jstew> Hmm... clamav-deamon should give you the service
[02:48] <mnepton> Alan-D: ah, so you want it scanning local drives with files that are accessible to Windows users?
[02:48] <Alan-D> jstew: How can I check it?
[02:48] <foxpaul> hi all. i seem to have messed up my root directory when installing some software - /root isn't readable by root - is there a way to fix?
[02:48] <Alan-D> mnepton: yes
[02:49] <mnepton> Alan-D: is there a clam-ish entry in /etc/init.d ?
[02:49] <jstew> You need a cron job to scedule scans Alan-D
[02:49] <jstew> 00 00 * * *  sudo clamscan -r /location_of_files_or_folders
[02:49] <Alan-D> I use to the windows version and would like to use it for my ubuntu server
[02:49] <AngryElf_> foxpaul: boot into recovery mode and reset the perms
[02:49] <txoof> I'm trying to work with the admin page in cups and having a helluva time logging in.  I've tried using the user root and my admin user, but I either am continually queried for a password OR I end up at a blank page.  Where should I start here?
[02:49] <variant> foxpaul: (as root) chown -R root /root && chgrp -R root /root
[02:50] <jstew> Do you need email scannign too Alan-D?
[02:50] <Alan-D> jstew: I have kcron installed
[02:50] <Ropechoborra> !edgy
[02:50] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:50] <Toma-> Is there a gui cvs browser?
[02:50] <mnepton> txoof: in the GNOME printing dialogs, not the web interface
[02:50] <Ropechoborra> !schedule
[02:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:50] <jstew> Hmm.. Not familiar with kcron, only command line.
[02:50] <apokryphos> variant: you can change user and group using: chown user:group
[02:50] <variant> apokryphos: yep, i know. thought it best to spell it out for him though
[02:50] <jstew> Alan-D: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#AntiVirus_Server
[02:51] <jstew> might be helpful to you
[02:51] <zeroinc> yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyo
[02:51] <variant> apokryphos: he messed around with the permissions as root probably
[02:51] <greguti> hi all
[02:51] <zeroinc> yoyoyoyoyo
[02:51] <zeroinc> sup
[02:51] <apokryphos> hi
[02:51] <greguti> I have a question about the kernel installed on my Ubuntu Edgy laptop
[02:51] <GNAM> !schedule
[02:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:51] <greguti> is it the right place to ask it?
[02:51] <mnepton> Alan-D: is this machine a file server only?
[02:51] <zeroinc> how do i dual boot unbuntu with an already installed copy of windows xp
[02:52] <apokryphos> zeroinc: just install ubuntu, it should do it automatically
[02:52] <gilligan_> zeroinc, you install it on a free partition
[02:52] <zeroinc> yes i have a partition free
[02:52] <Alan-D> jstew: Do you need email scannign too Alan-D? No, not for the now
[02:52] <Matii> I get this error in console when speaking in ventrilo running via wine: err:wave:OSS_OpenDevice ioctl(/dev/dsp, SNDCTL_DSP_SETTRIGGER, 3) failed (Broken pipe)
[02:52] <zeroinc> what if it doesn't recognize the other partitions?
[02:52] <jstew> Ok
[02:52] <greguti> In my Dapper Drake version of Ubuntu, I could install a 686 SMP kernel. I have a dual core Asus laptop.
[02:52] <zeroinc> should i install the KDE version?
[02:52] <zeroinc> KUBUNTU or whatever?
[02:53] <Toma-> Anyone know of a gui cvs browser?
[02:53] <variant> zeroinc: start with ubuntu, you can change to kde later if you want without reinstalling
[02:53] <greguti> Since I upgraded to Edgy, I just see "one" CPU on my gnome-system-monitor applet
[02:53] <variant> Toma-: heard you the last 3 times
[02:53] <variant> Toma-: try goog
[02:53] <variant> Toma-: google
[02:53] <Toma-> i asked once.
[02:53] <jstew> cervisia maybe Toma-?
[02:53] <mnepton> zeroinc: GNOME vs KDE is a personal choice. i myself find GNOME far superior. and that has nothing to do with my membership in the GNOME Foundation. ;)
[02:53] <greguti> and uname -a gives me " 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux"
[02:54] <Toma-> jstew: thanks.
[02:54] <Tallen> Trying to install to notebook with no CD-ROM and no ability to boot from Network. I have a DSL boot floppy (with USB Flash Drive) and I would like to somehow boot via that and then install Xubuntu. Any ideas?
[02:54] <jstew> I like both gnome and KDE but I go with gnome because it's the default ubuntu desktop
[02:54] <lostatc> I have three P2 computers laying in the basement. Is there a way to install linux on them and have them all act as one machine?
[02:54] <zeroinc> thanks variant
[02:54] <Icer> hi
[02:54] <jstew> theres realy nothing special about either IMHOP
[02:54] <Tallen> I can copy the contents of the Xubuntu Install CD to the Flash drive, is there a install 'script'  I can run via console?
[02:54] <Ropechoborra> is edgy stable and safe for upgrade now?
[02:54] <greguti> but I do have a linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 package already installed.
[02:54] <mnepton> lostatc: grab the No-Strach Press book on Linux clustering
[02:55] <mnepton> *Starch
[02:55] <jstew> lostatc: nope. not unless you want to make a cluster out of them. Waste of time for your purposes probably though
[02:55] <lostatc> is that what its called?
[02:55] <chrishoeppner> Hi
[02:55] <variant> lostatc: yes, install whatever distro (i reccomend a light gentoo isntall) and run openmosix cluster on them
[02:55] <greguti> So why is it that ubuntu keeps on using the 386 version? Is it safe just to delete it via Synaptic?
[02:55] <Icer> please isnt here someone to help me with firefox download?i can download any .deb in ubuntu:(
[02:55] <Icer> *cant
[02:55] <chrishoeppner> Icer, what's the problem?
[02:56] <variant> lostatc: I did it myself with a bunch of old computers once, very fun but not really very usefull unless you do heavy computational tasks
[02:56] <chrishoeppner> have you checked the repositories?
[02:56] <lostatc> Oh not really. I build websites
[02:56] <jstew>  yes greg, as long as you have a known good working kernel and a backup too
[02:56] <Alan-D> jstew: here is the result of the clamscan  " bash: 00: command not found
[02:56] <variant> lostatc: unless you want to do it for fun, its not worth it.. if you have a heavily used database it could be usefull i suppose
[02:56] <chrishoeppner> Icer, does apt-get update work?
[02:56] <jstew> That goes in your crontab Alan-D
[02:57] <jstew> do you know about cron yet?
[02:57] <lostatc> I thought perhaps that if i linked them somehow perhaps several p2 machines would perhaps have enough power that is greater
[02:57] <jstew> man cron
[02:57] <jstew> man 5 crontab
[02:57] <Icer> every time i click on the link of something( .deb package for something) a new window appear and i
[02:57] <AngryElf_> Icer: right click, save file as
[02:57] <Ropechoborra> is edgy stable and safe for upgrade now?
[02:57] <Icer> click on the savetodisk button
[02:57] <Icer> but it saves nothing:(
[02:57] <Alan-D> jstew  can I do the command directly?
[02:58] <jstew> not really variant database is usually mostly disk IO, and clusters suck for disk IO
[02:58] <lostatc> What would the processor strength be if you liked in a cluster 3 or 4 p2 machines
[02:58] <jstew> clamscan -r /<dir>
[02:58] <Alan-D> jstew ok
[02:58] <AngryElf_> Icer: why are you downloading debs and not using apt-get or synaptic?
[02:58] <Icer> chrishoeppner:yes it works
[02:58] <jstew> I'd rather just use all the P2's for something like distcc
[02:58] <Icer> AngryElf_:ok i will try it
[02:59] <lostatc> What is distcc?
[02:59] <jstew> distributed c compiler
[02:59] <Alakazamz0r> lol@the name angry elf.
[02:59] <lostatc> I dont program
[02:59] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[02:59] <jstew> google it. very useful if you build lots of software
[02:59] <AngryElf_> arr
[02:59] <lostatc> mostly graphics
[02:59] <lostatc> and animation
[02:59] <chrishoeppner> Icer, and what does it complain about when downloading anything?
[03:00] <Tallen> anyone know how to intall Ubuntu from the CLI?
[03:00] <lostatc> Well have to go to work. thanks for answering my questions.
[03:00] <txoof> when I try to connect to the https pages in cups I'm prompted for a username and password.  I entery either my root or admin users' name and password and I'm presented with a blank page.  Any idea what's going wrong?
[03:00] <Xzanron> how do i force an unlock of apt-get ?
[03:01] <txoof> Xzanron: remove the lock file.  Probably in /var/lock
[03:01] <txoof> Xzanron: make sure that apt REALLY isn't running before you do that.
[03:01] <txoof> ps aux|grep apt
[03:01] <Icer> AngryElf_:i havent got save file as ...only save link as:(
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> !linpal
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linpal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <Icer> chrishoeppner:firefox just doesne complain...
[03:02] <patrick_king> is the new ubuntu rc coming out tomorrow
[03:02] <chrishoeppner> Icer, and what's not working then?
[03:02] <chrishoeppner> Icer, can you `firefox` on the console?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> patrick_king: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <Icer> chrishoeppner:firefox doesnt complain but the .deb isnt downloaded than:( ok i will try firefox on the console
[03:04] <Alan-D> jstew, is the clamav install compatible with 6.06?  Most of the references I found refer to 5.10 or 5.05
[03:04] <jstew> yeah
[03:04] <AngryElf_> Icer: then it seems the link you're clicking doesn't have real deb immediately behind it
[03:05] <nonsparker> can anyone help me with a php5 issue?
[03:05] <bertugolu> i have a 1280*1024, and i wish to increase the hz...how can i do that
[03:05] <nonsparker> I need to disable soap
[03:05] <bertugolu> what is the issue nonsparker?
[03:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell bertugolu about fixres
[03:05] <bertugolu> i tried from the screen resolution
[03:05] <bertugolu> it is limited
[03:05] <bertugolu> to 60hz
[03:06] <Icer> AngryElf_:actually i tried to download this deb:http://dfast.sourceforge.net/download.html#r050 (its download manager...)
[03:06] <Linuturk_code> has a *.deb been made for the flash 9 FF plugin?
[03:06] <Icer> AngryElf_:wxDownload...
[03:06] <nonsparker> I would like to disable soap i have the basic lamp server installed
[03:07] <nonsparker> do i reconfigure the pakage? if so do i ned any arguments?
[03:07] <Zake> which software should i be using to build stats on cpu usage, bandwidth usage, memory usage of my server?
[03:08] <FaithX> anyone know where the default mtu for the tun dev can be set?
[03:08] <TreMobyl> is the new flashplayer 9 beta going into edgy?
[03:08] <TreMobyl> [mutliverse anyway] 
[03:10] <nonsparker> can anyone help me out?
[03:10] <barosl> i get ~ character when i press HOME key or END key in putty. can it be fixed?
[03:11] <WonderWal> which software should i be using to build stats on cpu usage, bandwidth usage, memory usage of my server?
[03:11] <Icer> chrishoeppner:can be firefox run in text mode like lynx?
[03:11] <jmspeex> is it possible to downgrade from Edgy to Dapper without re-installing?
[03:12] <Icer> chrishoeppner: i dont see it in options ...
[03:12] <teledyn_> WonderWal: check out cacti
[03:12] <WonderWal> teledyn_: cacti does bw?
[03:12] <patrick_king> how do i kill xserver to install nvidia drivers
[03:12] <jstew> patrick_king: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:12] <HumanPrototype> patrick_king, ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a console then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop or kdm stop if your in kde
[03:13] <jstew> or killall X
[03:13] <patrick_king> cheers
[03:13] <HumanPrototype> patrick_king, if you want to use chat then use irssi from the console
[03:13] <jstew> irssi rules
[03:13] <HumanPrototype> jstew, too true
[03:13] <notwist> jstew: quite indeed
[03:14] <HumanPrototype> how do I edit the menu in xfce?
[03:14] <jstew> I remember during my gentoo days being able to chat with irssi while installing gentoo. Invaluable
[03:14] <HumanPrototype> jstew, i just kept getting halfway, having a problem and giving up on gentoo before coming back a month or so later
[03:15] <jstew> I got sick of having to compile everything.
[03:15] <jstew> It is gentoos greatest blesing, also it's greatest curse
[03:15] <HumanPrototype> jstew, thats why i came back to ubuntu after about 4 days of almost solid compiling (i screwed up on the kde libs several times)
[03:16] <xamox> can someone tell me what I need to do for something like this: I have apache installed(w/ a CMS).  The CMS use's e-mail for registration. I don't need a full blown mail server. I just want my server to send out e-mails for registrations, subscriptions, etc.  What mail server do I need and what do I need to do to set it up? (I have installed postfix but doesn't seem to be working, but I'm guessing I don't have configured properly).
[03:16] <jstew> yeah. I still use gentoo for some things, namely my mythtv box. I play around with the source quite a bti on that
[03:16] <hutchGuy> does anyone know how to watch the last few bits of dmesg every 5 secs ?
[03:17] <jstew> use relayhost xamox
[03:17] <jstew> relayhost = <your.isp.mailserver>
[03:17] <patrick_king> i have done sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but it complains that xserver is still running
[03:17] <xamox> jstew:  is that from command line or in a config file?
[03:18] <Icer> AngryElf_:maybe i could install mozilla browser in synaptic...maybe it will work better...
[03:18] <HumanPrototype> hutchGuy, i think there is a program that runs on the desktop similar to conky that outputs a text file so u cld try getting that to do it
[03:18] <zeroinc> guys can someone explain to me how ubuntu recognizes itself as a dualboot with windows already on another partition plz
[03:18] <jstew> in main.cf xamox
[03:18] <xamox> jstew:  alright, thx.
[03:18] <hutchGuy> HumanPrototype: in gnome-terminal
[03:18] <jstew> hutchGuy: man watch
[03:18] <hutchGuy> watch tail -f | dmesg give garble
[03:19] <xamox> jstew:  now when I due the dfeault config, do I want it to be an internet site, internet site w/ smarthost, or satiellite?
[03:19] <bora> hi everyone
[03:19] <patrick_king> i have done sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but it Nvidia instal complains that xserver is still running
[03:19] <bora> I woould like to help
[03:19] <bora> about ubuntu
[03:19] <Rothguard> zen !!!!
[03:19] <jstew> watch -n 5 sudo tail -n 5 /var/log/dmesg
[03:20] <chrishoeppner> Icer, just tell me this. what do you get back when you type `sudo apt-get install firefox` ?
[03:20] <jstew> Hmm youre using some sort of setup program xamox? I always just edited the main.cf by hand
[03:20] <jstew> probably internet site with smarthost
[03:20] <jstew> relayhost will be your "smarthost"
[03:21] <bora> need  help for setup  xmms
[03:21] <bora> anybody can help me
[03:21] <bora> about this
[03:21] <cherubiel> bora: any specific issues?
[03:21] <jstew> how does that work out for you hutchGuy?
[03:21] <hutchGuy> jstew: not /var/log/dmesg . thanks btw, it's the /usr/bin/dmesg
[03:21] <xamox> jstew:  I did a dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[03:21] <hutchGuy> i need to redirect here.
[03:22] <jstew> /var/log/dmesg will give you the same thing though.
[03:22] <jstew> and it's easy to just tail it
[03:22] <hutchGuy> jstew: no
[03:22] <JairunCaloth> Just a quick question, do different installs of linux need different swap partitions?
[03:22] <patrick_king> !nvidia
[03:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <watson540> anyone know how to change framebuffer resoluttion without having to reboot?
[03:23] <jstew> youre right hutch.
[03:23] <JairunCaloth> ex. can I dual boot ubuntu and gentoo and have both use the same swap partition
[03:23] <bora> Dear cherubiel
[03:23] <Icer> chrishoeppner:Reading Package Lists... Done
[03:23] <Icer> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[03:23] <Icer> E: Couldn't find package firefox
[03:23] <kaffeewoller> hi, i need some help, please. i cannot add a printer in cups
[03:23] <bora> I am a news linux user
[03:24] <kaffeewoller> because the dialog won't open
[03:24] <kaffeewoller> what is wrong?
[03:24] <kaffeewoller> :)
[03:24] <jstew> How about this then hutchGuy? watch -n 5 "dmesg | tail -n 5"
[03:24] <Icer> chrishoeppner:but i have firefox ... i can browse www with it
[03:24] <chrishoeppner> Icer, it's installed by default.
[03:25] <jstew> JairunCaloth: I dont see why not since swap is volatile by nature
[03:25] <cherubiel> bora: are you stuck somewhere or you don't know where to start?
[03:25] <kaffeewoller> he just says, loading printer database, but never stop
[03:25] <kaffeewoller> s
[03:25] <hutchGuy> jstew: thanks :) does the job
[03:25] <chrishoeppner> Icer, however, it seems like firefox is not in the repositories you've got listed.
[03:25] <bora> and  I was install Ubuntu but cannot  xmms,firefox  and thunderbird
[03:25] <jrib> kaffeewoller: try running gnome-cups-add from a terminal and see if you get any meaningful output
[03:25] <talldave> i am following a tutorial about writing scripts, but i am lost with path names, i was told to mkdir bin then move script into bin and it will work, but it dosent
[03:25] <jstew> sorry abuot the confusion hutch
[03:25] <kaffeewoller> jrib: ok
[03:25] <Icer> chrishoeppner:aha!
[03:25] <JairunCaloth> jstew: thanks, just wanted to double check before I screwed something up
[03:26] <bora> yeah I dont konw where to start  can you help me
[03:26] <jrib> talldave: what do you mean by "work"
[03:26] <cherubiel> bora: open up a terminal, type sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:26] <kaffeewoller> jrib: i dont get any output
[03:26] <kaffeewoller> it just hangs
[03:26] <cherubiel> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:26] <kaffeewoller> with full cpu load
[03:26] <jrib> kaffeewoller: what are you executing?
[03:26] <hutchGuy> jstew: :)
[03:26] <cherubiel> then, sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:26] <kaffeewoller> gnome-cups-add
[03:26] <talldave> jrib its a basic hello world echo but i get command not found
[03:26] <cherubiel> sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:27] <cherubiel> those three commands should give you xmms, firefox and thunderbird bora
[03:27] <jrib> kaffeewoller: try restarting cups, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, not sure what else to suggest
[03:27] <kaffeewoller> jrib: i had turboprint installed, then deinstalled.
[03:28] <jrib> talldave: ok, what is the full path to your script?
[03:28] <kaffeewoller> jrib: and i installd these packages from the ubuntuusers page to get my canon ip3000 running, which i dont
[03:28] <shredder> Icer: automatix can set upp all repositories for you if you're not sure how to edit sources.list yourself. http://www.getautomatix.com/
[03:29] <kaffeewoller> ahh!
[03:29] <xamox> jstew:  My relay host is setup to what it should be. But it's still not working. :(
[03:29] <talldave> jrib: sorry, i think its in home/dave/bin
[03:29] <kaffeewoller> something happened...
[03:29] <talldave> jrib: thats where the tutorial said to put it
[03:30] <jrib> talldave: so if you type '/home/dave/bin/name_of_program' it should work.  You can only do 'name_of_program' if you add /home/dave/bin to your PATH variable
[03:30] <Icer> shredder:thanks:)
[03:30] <jstew> maybe your isp is having problems.
[03:30] <jstew> check your /var/log/mail.log xamox
[03:30] <xamox> jstew:  alright, one sec.
[03:31] <hutchGuy> dmesg keeps reporting that my inode is being dirtied by *lots* of the process.
[03:31] <talldave> jrib: think i got the first bit
[03:31] <talldave> jrib: so how do i set the path
[03:31] <kaffeewoller> it opens after much time
[03:31] <jstew> or your mailer is not set to postfix maybe?
[03:31] <kaffeewoller> and reports some double driver thingies...
[03:32] <kaffeewoller> two printers have the same driver or stuff
[03:32] <kaffeewoller> and this many times.
[03:32] <jrib> talldave: export PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"      do you understand what this does?
[03:32] <talldave> jrib: no i don't understand the command
[03:32] <hutchGuy> [17229082.420000]  sh(12082): dirtied inode 393608 (LC_CTYPE) on sda2
[03:32] <Icer> chrishoeppner:so the point is : i should reinstall firefox from repository...i have reinstalled it in synaptic but its probably reinstall from local bin in this case...
[03:33] <hutchGuy> ?
[03:33] <hutchGuy> can anyone point out what's going on ?
[03:33] <xamox> jstew:  mailer? the relay host?
[03:33] <jrib> talldave: ok export is the way to set a variable.  And you are making PATH equal to ~/bin:${PATH} which is ~/bin with a colon and then whatever PATH currently is
[03:33] <Decadent> does anybody knows how can i lock a pdf??
[03:34] <jstew> No, what I'm saying is are you really useign sendmail when you think youre using postfix? :)
[03:34] <jrib> talldave: do this to see what PATH looks like now:   echo $PATH
[03:34] <jstew> Decadent: Adobe acrobat.
[03:34] <chrishoeppner> Icer, surely. do and `apt-get clean` and then `apt-get update`, followed closely by a `apt-get install firefox`, but make sure to have universe and multiverse repo's added.
[03:34] <Touqen> What packages do I need to have a working build environment?
[03:35] <jrib> Touqen: build-essential plus whatever deps you need
[03:35] <cherubiel> Touqen: apt-get install build-essential
[03:35] <Touqen> gracias
[03:35] <xamox> jstew:  Ahh, it's working, after looking at my mail.log it said that my domain can't be localhost, I changed it to what it should be, thx!
[03:35] <jstew> good deal
[03:35] <Touqen> crap
[03:36] <netg> hi I'm looking for an how-to explaining how to compile a single kernel module
[03:36] <talldave> jrib :
[03:36] <talldave> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:directory:/bin
[03:36] <bertugolu> I have done sudo apt-get install wine, to get wine....now from where do i run it?
[03:36] <Decadent> jstew, there is only acroread which is only for reading pdfs I want to lock a pdf I've created
[03:37] <notwist> Is there any way in ubuntu to show CPU and bandwidth load on the desktop? I use gnome
[03:38] <fnf> bertugolu: 'man wine' should reveal a lot, in short: wine *.exe will work
[03:38] <teledyn> top and iptraf?
[03:38] <frying_fish> notwist: gdesklets
[03:38] <zool2005> notwist: try gkrellm
[03:38] <bertugolu> ok
[03:38] <notwist> um.. one is enough
[03:38] <notwist> :)
[03:38] <jrib> talldave: right, and after running the export command I gave you, that output should look different
[03:38] <Icer> shredder:theres a nice robot on that site:)...but it doesnt work today:(
[03:38] <jstew> Decadent: I'm not aware of linux software to do that
[03:38] <seraphim> notwist: you could simply add the system-monitor to the panel
[03:38] <Decadent> ok thanks :)
[03:38] <kjempe> hi
[03:39] <bertugolu> i did make a search...but when i run wine it tells me that you need to choose something to run it
[03:39] <kaffeewoller> bertugolu: you must first run wine without arguments!
[03:39] <kjempe> does anybody know if there's a global imagecache in gnome?
[03:39] <talldave> jrib: that was after running your command
[03:39] <kaffeewoller> it must be one time for it to install its directories and stuff
[03:39] <notwist> seraphim: how do i do that?
[03:40] <fnf> bertugolu: What's the app you're running ? Is this a message from wine or that application ?
[03:40] <seraphim> notwist: right-klick on a panel, choose add
[03:40] <seraphim> notwist: then search the system-monitor ;)
[03:40] <notwist> seraphim: yeah well that only starts the program.. i would like to see the info right away if you get my point
[03:41] <talldave> jrib: i get the idea, but dont seem to have it set up right, can i use a text editor to edit the path?
[03:41] <seraphim> notwist: it's a graph
[03:41] <DB42> any edgy users here ? worth upgrading from 6.06 ?
[03:41] <jrib> talldave: not really
[03:41] <seraphim> notwist: mouseover shows percentage
[03:41] <wursthase> DB42: edgy users are in #ubuntu+1
[03:42] <DB42> wursthase: they dont talk there
[03:42] <talldave> jrib: just i see that i have stuff there that i shouldnt
[03:42] <jrib> talldave: by the way, that change is not permanent.  It lasts only for that terminal until you close it
[03:42] <wursthase> DB42: hmm
[03:42] <kjempe> is there an imagecache which could prevent gnome from using new icons?
[03:42] <Alakazamz0r> im going to see ATB tomorrow :D
[03:42] <jrib> talldave: you can do export PATH=whateverIwantHere
[03:42] <jrib> talldave: or just close your terminal and start over
[03:42] <talldave> jrib : /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:directory:/bin
[03:43] <talldave> jrib: will that reset everything
[03:43] <bertugolu> Hey, i am using wine, how can i add files which are on my windows hdd?
[03:43] <DB42> is http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ working for anybody ?
[03:43] <jstew> bertugolu: files?
[03:43] <jrib> talldave: closing your terminal and opening a new one will reset it.  Paste the command you used for me to see, it seems like "directory" got in there somehow
[03:43] <jstew> you maen programs?
[03:44] <jrib> DB42: yes
[03:44] <DB42> bertugolu: mount it, and run it ?
[03:44] <DB42> jrib: it doesnt work for me.. maybe cause i'm accessing from windows  :)
[03:44] <jstew> Well you need the registry entries too
[03:44] <bertugolu> how can i mount it
[03:44] <talldave> jrib : i coppied a command and didnt change the 'directory' bit
[03:44] <DB42> bertugolu: you dont know how to access your windows drivers from linux ?
[03:44] <DB42> they are usually in /media/...
[03:44] <jrib> talldave: directory shouldn't be there
[03:45] <bertugolu> no
[03:45] <bertugolu> emm
[03:45] <wursthase> s/drivers/drives
[03:45] <cherubiel> !mount
[03:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:45] <DB42> bertugolu: did you check /media/ ?
[03:45] <bertugolu> in computer it sys i cant mount
[03:45] <talldave> jrib: not there now /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[03:45] <jrib> talldave: you should be adding ~/bin or /home/dave/bin, same thing
[03:45] <DB42> bertugolu: so do it with "sudo"
[03:45] <cherubiel> bertugolu: you need root or sudo
[03:45] <strabes> bertugolu: is your drive vfat or ntfs?
[03:45] <bertugolu> ntfs
[03:45] <bertugolu> so what do i write
[03:45] <bertugolu> sudo..
[03:45] <strabes> and you want to mount that in linux and read/write the files?
[03:45] <bertugolu> yeas
[03:45] <DB42> sudo moutn -t ntfs /dev/hd.. /media/hd..
[03:45] <DB42> write is beta
[03:46] <[StarFire] > Hi people
[03:46] <strabes> bertugolu: you want to mount it on boot up or manually?
[03:46] <[StarFire] > I want to discuss with you a very interesting UBUNTU problem...
[03:46] <bertugolu> what do i wire exactly?
[03:46] <bertugolu> i need to mount it to acess files from wine
[03:46] <DB42> bertugolu: WE DONT KNOW
[03:46] <[StarFire] > I found out that UBUNTU can "listen" to cable net...
[03:46] <DB42> you need to know
[03:46] <DB42> blah :)
[03:46] <[StarFire] > but it can't listen to wireless net...
[03:46] <strabes> bertugolu: do you want it to mount on startup?
[03:47] <DB42> bertugolu: you need to check with /dev/hd... is your windows partition
[03:47] <[StarFire] > Isn't this a bit... unwise?
[03:47] <strabes> bertugolu: if so, here is a howto: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[03:47] <jrib> ubotu: tell [StarFire]  about wireless
[03:47] <[StarFire] > I have to write a interesting script to make it run!
[03:47] <[StarFire] > and it gave me a freek'n headache.
[03:47] <strabes> ubotu: tell strabes about automatix
[03:47] <wursthase> bertugolu: "cat /proc/partitions" might help
[03:47] <strabes> haha
[03:47] <talldave> jrib: still not got it working
[03:47] <Unimatrix9> hi there
[03:47] <strabes> hello
[03:48] <Unimatrix9> any one tested the new flash 9 beta 3 for linux ?
[03:48] <jrib> talldave: join me in #ubuntu-classroom, less traffic there
[03:48] <[StarFire] > I cursed ubuntu for not having the capability of "listening"
[03:48] <jstew> sigh... I still remember the days when everyone read thier howtos and man pages
[03:48] <[StarFire] > and I damm love it
[03:48] <Unimatrix9> i just run an first test, and it gives no sound...
[03:49] <jstew> flash 9 - its' about time! (the new flash 9 slogan for linux)
[03:49] <strabes> yeah really
[03:49] <Unimatrix9> well, its time, but does not work, with sound yet..
[03:49] <[StarFire] > Come on, neverteless
[03:49] <GortiZ> hi someone could help me with squid?
[03:49] <[StarFire] > it's a pain in the neck for ubuntu
[03:49] <[StarFire] > not to come with a sniffer
[03:49] <Unimatrix9> you get good grapics but no sound , flash player 9 beta 3
[03:49] <[StarFire] > right
[03:50] <[StarFire] > even the M$ bug-Windows sniffs for networking
[03:50] <[StarFire] > why doesn't ubuntu?
[03:50] <jstew> GortiZ: whats the question?
[03:50] <GortiZ> jstew: I have a problem with the transparent proxy
[03:50] <Wheelybin> Hello there. I think I found the problem with my samba server. How do I start the service? How do I make sure it runs at startup?
[03:51] <jstew> Ok.
[03:51] <GortiZ> if i set iptable normally and connect the client to the 3128 port
[03:51] <wursthase> [StarFire] : there is ethereal, there is tcpdump. what's the problem?
[03:51] <GortiZ> squid works normally asking me the username and password
[03:51] <GortiZ> but if i setup the iptable with redirection from 80 to 3128
[03:52] <GortiZ> squid doesn't ask me the password and doesn't go on internet...
[03:52] <jstew> Did you set up squid.conf for transparent proxy?
[03:52] <GortiZ> yes
[03:52] <GortiZ> but i need that it ask password to the users..
[03:52] <Icer> chrishoepner:btw is any real difference between my warthog and the newiest ubuntu when i tried updated packages?
[03:52] <[StarFire] > Great
[03:52] <[StarFire] > I just get ignored here?
[03:52] <jstew> httpd_accel_host virtual httpd_accel_port 80 httpd_accel_with_proxy on ttpd_accel_uses_host_header on
[03:52] <LjL> !patience
[03:52] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:53] <LjL> [StarFire] : honestly i haven't understood your question
[03:53] <jstew> If you can read that. Thats what I have in mine and it's working
[03:53] <Unimatrix9> starfire, i did see
[03:53] <GortiZ> i have to put these on squid.conf?
[03:53] <jstew> yes
[03:53] <Unimatrix9> and understand your trouble...
[03:53] <jstew> you need to set up transparent proxy in squid also
[03:53] <GortiZ> and then it will ask password again?
[03:53] <hutchGuy> jstew: there are lots of permission denied from output with lsof
[03:53] <[StarFire] > LjL, the question is this : I get fed up of having to feel in the essid for the wifi network! UBUNTU *SHOULD* be capable of sniffing the nearby networks
[03:53] <Unimatrix9> you ask if there is an program for network roaming and sniffing
[03:54] <[StarFire] > and he doesn't
[03:54] <[StarFire] > he only eats what you want
[03:54] <[StarFire] > and that makes me confused!
[03:54] <hutchGuy> lsof | grep 'Permission' | awk {'print $i++'} doesn't update $i.. how do I update i ?
[03:54] <[StarFire] > Say, Why doesn't he sniff the surrounding networks and say : Ok, this are the avaliable networks!
[03:54] <GortiZ> i have another question the log will write users accesses?
[03:55] <patrick_king> can any one tell what i have to install before i install the nvidia beta drivers
[03:55] <jstew> I just have httpd_accel_host virtual and httpd_accel_port 80 you might be able to get away with only those GortiZ
[03:55] <GortiZ> ?
[03:55] <wursthase> [StarFire] : just use the right tools. airodump, airsnort, kismet, ...
[03:55] <cjuner> Hi there... Any recommendations on laptops? I am looking for one with high battery life, out-of-the-box suspend to ram and working airsnort (wlan sniffing)...
[03:55] <Unimatrix9> well i did try to find an asnwer to the same kind of problem starfire. and did not find an good solution
[03:55] <LjL> [StarFire] : i'm not familiar with wireless. however, i can see i have a "Wireless Assistant" program in my menu (i'm using KDE, though!), which does seem to be something that lists visible WiFi networks, with ID for each
[03:55] <jstew> About the log: suid has access.log
[03:55] <jstew> squid*
[03:55] <GortiZ> no i need that squid ask for the username and password and then log every request from the user...
[03:56] <Unimatrix9> i now use an livecd to sniff networks
[03:56] <frogzoo> anyone have any idea why WoW would lock up constantly ? this is a new machine, maybe the vid card's overheating but fan seems to be running
[03:56] <[StarFire] > Sorry, i work, with , quoting Tovarlds " GNOME, the graphic nazists"
[03:56] <patrick_king> !samba
[03:56] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:56] <jstew> I must be confused as to what you need to log then GortiZ :)
[03:56] <[StarFire] > And gnome doesn't have those
[03:56] <GortiZ> the http requests from the users..
[03:56] <[StarFire] > I had to use iwconfig
[03:56] <[StarFire] > and also wpa_supplicant
[03:56] <GortiZ> every page they request
[03:56] <[StarFire] > and ifup
[03:56] <Unimatrix9> so?
[03:57] <LjL> [StarFire] , please look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking - its says, "If your device supports scanning, your access points essid should display in the drop down list. Most newer cards and drivers will support scanning."
[03:57] <jstew> It logs all that be default
[03:57] <[StarFire] > to configure the whole smash!
[03:57] <LjL> [StarFire] : sounds like what you want maybe
[03:57] <hutchGuy> all of the permission denied's are from readlink and opendir function (C functions). what's going on ? is it trashing my system ?
[03:57] <wursthase> [StarFire] : and what prevents you from installing additional software?
[03:57] <GortiZ> basically the number of url that they ask
[03:57] <cjuner> frogzoo, if you have not done so yet you might want to try newer and/or older versions of wine. There often are regressions between different versions.
[03:57] <jstew> yeah, squids access.log has all of that in it
[03:57] <jstew> unless you tell it NOT to log, but it logs by default
[03:57] <frogzoo> cjuner: fair point, I'll drop a rev & see, thx
[03:57] <Unimatrix9> poor man
[03:58] <bertugolu> exept for wine, is there another program like it?
[03:58] <[StarFire] > LjL, nothing does prevent me. But i got irritated with it. Cable works nicely, just plug it and let it go. And Wifi? One has to console the sucker?
[03:58] <GortiZ> ok i will try
[03:58] <GortiZ> thanks
[03:58] <LjL> [StarFire] , i think that was intended to be addresses to wursthase...?
[03:58] <jstew> np
[03:58] <patrick_king> !swat
[03:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:58] <jonah1980> hi can anyone tell me how to edit the list of session on login?
[03:58] <[StarFire] > LjL, I happen to know a little bit of console. But many people don't. New users. And that is quite a drawback in ubuntu philosophy.
[03:58] <zen2> now im here
[03:59] <jonah1980> i added one in i don't want as an option anymore
[03:59] <wursthase> [StarFire] : if you just want to rant, people will ignore you
[03:59] <jstew> lol
[03:59] <bertugolu> Soneone
[03:59] <segfault_> wursthase, lol thx someone had to say it
[03:59] <bertugolu> pls helo me
[03:59] <[StarFire] > wursthase, I just want to understand why this is so :|
[04:00] <LjL> [StarFire] , that's bordering on off-topic... well, more than bordering. ask for support here, and to discuss things you can join #ubuntu-offtopic - also, please watch your language, we have some policies about it that are stricter than in other channels
[04:00] <Unimatrix9> make us understand..
 i just edited sources.list ...i uncommented universe repos lines but i didnt find any line which correspond to multiverse
 repos
 i have also type apt-get update
 with universe repos i still cant find firefox package
 so i have to add multiverse i suppose...but i dont know the link to that repos which i can paste to the sources.file
[04:00] <frogzoo> [StarFire] : maybe you'd like wifi-radar
[04:00] <LjL> [StarFire] : anyway, from what i can read on the page i pointed you to, what you ask for seems to *be* doable from the standard Gnome GUI. i might be mistaken, but have you tried it?
[04:00] <bora> anybody can help me about install xmms
[04:00] <eXistenZ> How can I make K3B support mp3?
[04:00] <wursthase> [StarFire] : because in order to support wpa and such, in a abstract way like a gui does, each wifi driver must support it. but this is unfortunately not the case.
[04:01] <LjL> [StarFire] : i'll also point you to the generic wireless guide, you might find some other useful things that I've missed, not being familiar with wireless tech
[04:01] <raintheory> !nrg
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nrg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <[StarFire] > Sorry.
[04:01] <krazykit> raintheory: google nrg2iso
[04:01] <[StarFire] > Didn't know this was just for support
[04:01] <[StarFire] > thanks :D
[04:01] <cherubiel> bora: are you registered?
[04:01] <cherubiel> !register
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[04:01] <cherubiel> bora: ^^
[04:01] <jstew> bora: sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:01] <Unimatrix9> with an good wifi card, one thats supported with ubuntu its easy to setup wireless
[04:02] <raintheory> krazykit| yeah i've looked it up, problem is I have DVD.nrg DVD.nrg.001 DVD.nrg.002
[04:02] <ana_> i can't make this laptop make any sound, have tried with the properties, with device manager, i have set none to mute, and still all is mute...
[04:02] <Unimatrix9> its true that switching is still an problem, when you go to an other spot
[04:02] <Unimatrix9> but that too depends on the wifi card..
[04:02] <frogzoo> ana_: tried fixing levels in alsamixer?
[04:03] <wolfgang_> hello
[04:03] <krazykit> raintheory: err... split ones eh.  um, you could install nero for linux, but it's not RMS-approved ;-)
[04:03] <Unimatrix9> lets make progress in that erea!
[04:03] <jstew> I like nero linux.
[04:03] <jstew> Its ugly though
[04:03] <raintheory> eek, nero for linux eh?
[04:03] <raintheory> hmm
[04:03] <wolfgang_> whot is se standart root passwort in ubuntu??
[04:03] <bora> jstew
[04:03] <frogzoo> !root
[04:03] <mnepton> wolfgang_: there is none. use sudo.
[04:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:03] <jstew> no root pass in ubuntu
[04:03] <jstew> use sudo with your admin user
[04:04] <wolfgang_> sank ju
[04:04] <wursthase> raintheory: there is nero for linux, but i see no point in using it
[04:04] <bora> I have pass sudo? is that true
[04:04] <jstew> I use nero to copy bad disks and it works better than cdrdao
[04:04] <cherubiel> bora: are you getting my pm s?
[04:05] <jstew> true that bora.
[04:05] <cjuner> Hi there... Any recommendations on laptops? I am looking for one with high battery life, out-of-the-box suspend to ram and working airsnort (wlan sniffing)...
[04:05] <Ash_Fox> !pl
[04:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:05] <Unimatrix9> ngr2iso?
[04:05] <raintheory> wursthase|  I agree...   I guess I could just use wy windoze partition to convert the split nrg files to one continuous nrg, or directly to iso
[04:05] <frogzoo> cjuner: well avoid the ATI cards for starters, go nvidia
[04:05] <bora> but how can I go sudo can you explain me?
[04:06] <frogzoo> !hardware > cjuner
[04:06] <BlueEagle> !sudo
[04:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:06] <sonics> hey
[04:06] <raintheory> nrg2iso works fine, but i have split nrg files and it wont work with those
[04:06] <sonics> :')
[04:06] <jstew> ati fglrx sucks very badly.
[04:06] <sonics> Can anyone recommen me a good linux/ubuntu startup guide?!
[04:06] <jstew> ubuntuguide.org
[04:06] <sonics> merci
[04:06] <sonics> :D
[04:06] <patrick_king> !mp3
[04:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:07] <Unimatrix9> ah okey to bad
[04:07] <raintheory> actually, heres a good question...    if nrg2iso says an nrg file is already iso, can i just change the extension to iso?
[04:07] <Kenotic> Does anyone have a dell D620
[04:07] <wursthase> raintheory: try :)
[04:07] <Kenotic> I need some help with mine
[04:07] <BlueEagle> !ask
[04:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:08] <raintheory> wursthase| good answer!   ;)
[04:08] <cjuner> frogzoo, that doesn't say anything about the support of raw monitoring for wifi devices (so that airsnort or something similar might work) :-/
[04:08] <BlueEagle> !anyone
[04:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:08] <wolfgang_> there must be a password for root
[04:08] <LjL> !root > wolfgang_
[04:08] <krazykit> wolfgang_: no there musn't.  use sudo -i
[04:08] <wursthase> raintheory: try loop mounting the file as iso:   mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 filename /mnt/point
[04:08] <Unimatrix9> raintheory , burn your ngr data to dvd, or copy to portable hard disk and ask the neighbour, gets you new friends too...
[04:08] <wolfgang_> i have to log in because i forgot my password
[04:08] <BlueEagle> kenotic: In short: Many people don't know what hardware is in a Dell D620 but if you've got a problem with a spesific piece of hardware people might know the solutions to them.
[04:08] <Kenotic> Well when i put it on the docking station it does not display on the external connected monitor.
[04:09] <LjL> wolfgang_: boot into recovery mode then
[04:09] <krazykit> wolfgang_: reboot into recovery mode and do passwd user to reset your password
[04:09] <wolfgang_> and then?
[04:09] <wolfgang_> but it's just a virtual machine
[04:09] <LjL> wolfgang_: shouldn't matter, that
[04:09] <LjL> wolfgang_: you then reboot the virtual machine, and use your new password
[04:10] <raintheory> wursthase|  I assume I have to create a writable mount point eh?
[04:10] <raintheory> in order for that to work?
[04:10] <jstew> in recovery mode do you have to mount your root partition and chroot? I've never had to use it, just a thought
[04:10] <yaya> ??
[04:10] <jstew> for passwd to work you would have to chroot into the mounted root
[04:10] <wursthase> raintheory: the mount point itself does not need to ne writable. but the mount command has to run as root (sudo mount ...)
[04:11] <Induane> on edgy dist-upgrade I'm getting alot of errors about "Incorrect nice value" - are there known workarounds currently?
[04:11] <Unimatrix9> bye all , have an nice day/evening
[04:11] <Unimatrix9> :)
[04:11] <raintheory> ahh, okay...  if i create the mount pint in /media instead of /mnt will it show on desktop and places menu?
[04:11] <wolfgang_> how can i reboot into recovery mode?
[04:11] <wursthase> raintheory: the mount point must exist though
[04:11] <frogzoo> cjuner: the intel 2200bg works out of the box, you might want 802.11a though, to know for sure if a chipset will work, check the kismet docs
[04:11] <LjL> jstew, but "recovery mode" i don't mean the Live CD, i just mean using the Recovery Mode option in Grub (which is your bootloader, press Esc like crazy after the BIOS gives way to the booter to see the menu ;)
[04:12] <jstew> I see
[04:12] <LjL> jstew: in that recovery mode, your root filesystem is just mounted as usual. however you're in a single-user mode console
[04:12] <jstew> Ah, OK
[04:12] <cjuner> frogzoo, ah that looks nice ... thank you
[04:13] <jstew> makes sense then. I only had to do that when I was running lilo bootloader. Kind of speaks for how far linux has come.
[04:13] <jstew> ext3 > ext2 :)
[04:13] <nikko82> Hello. I'm trying to install Xen, but when i run /sbin/depmod -a 2.6.16.29-xen i get "Segmentation fault"
[04:13] <nikko82> Any ideas how to fix this?
[04:13] <raintheory> wursthase - if I create /media/ISO  instead of /mnt/ISO   , will it show on my desktop and places bar when i mount ISO?
[04:13] <LjL> jstew: well, Grub has become the defacto standard now, LILO is only used by few distributions (although we do have a LILO package as well, it's just not the supported default)
[04:14] <wursthase> raintheory: not sure. i don't use gnome or kde.
[04:14] <raintheory> wursthase - ahh okay
[04:14] <jstew> I used to use lilo on slackware 3.5
[04:14] <raintheory> wursthase - how do I unmount the ISO after I'm done?
[04:14] <jstew> long time ago
[04:14] <wursthase> raintheory: umount /mnt/point
[04:14] <raintheory> okay, thats what I thought
[04:15] <raintheory> wursthase - thanks a bunch
[04:15] <wursthase> raintheory: so it was mountable?
[04:16] <raintheory> wursthase - trying now,
[04:16] <jstew> havent had to go into single user mode since like 1997
[04:18] <|thunder> raintheory; right click it on the desktop and hit eject
[04:19] <teledyn> anyone know why apt-get fails to connect with one network connection but works with another?
[04:19] <johso> hiya ppl. I have just reinstalled Ubuntu, and I've got a lot of dependency related problems. even though I have enabled universe and everything else in sources.list, I'm unable to install a lot of things that are in those repos. what can I do about this?
[04:19] <|thunder> teledyn; either their server is down or the url is wrong
[04:19] <frogzoo> johso: sudo apt-get update
[04:19] <teledyn> |thunder: neither
[04:19] <|thunder> johso; thats very strange.
[04:20] <raintheory> wursthase - didnt mount....    the nrg is on an external drive and there are spaces in the folder name...   does that matter?
[04:20] <johso> frogzoo: done so, also apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:20] <wursthase> raintheory: you have to quote spaces on the command line "like this" or like\ this
[04:21] <raintheory> wursthase - so should i quote the entire location?
[04:21] <variant> does anyone know if the netgear wg311 (v2) is supported out of the box with daapper?
[04:21] <wursthase> raintheory: if you use the TAB key on incomplete file name, the shell will quote for you
[04:21] <segfault_> johso, did u enable universe and multiverse, also did u enable dapp-erupdates for universe and multiverse ( i dont think those are int he file by default)?
[04:21] <jstew> my wife calls dapper diaper.
[04:22] <johso> I have used other peoples pasted repos, and got a mix of applications that I could install. with that I mean that I could install some of the programs I was looking for, but something else was screwed which was working before (all Dapper repos, though). is there a failsafe sources.list I could use (without location mirrors, etc.)
[04:22] <raintheory> wursthase - aha!   i think it worked!    buts its showing as an actual disk drive instead of a CD/DVD on the desktop
[04:23] <johso> segfault_: I've got "dapper-updates main restricted" ?
[04:23] <wursthase> raintheory: okay, try browing the contents
[04:23] <MarkAngels> Hi. Is it possible to watch the live stream from Pop!tech? I can't get it to work. Seems to be windows media. http://live.poptech.org/
[04:24] <segfault_> johso, add lines for dapper-updates universe and dapper-updates ,ultiverse, run apt-get update and try again
[04:24] <raintheory> wursthase -i can browse contents just fine, i see audio_ts and video_ts and all  (its a DVD iso) but i cant seem to open it with any media app
[04:24] <segfault_> johso, ,ultiverse = multiverse
[04:24] <wursthase> raintheory: dvd can't be read like that
[04:24] <raintheory> ?
[04:25] <raintheory> wursthase - how do you mean?
[04:25] <wursthase> raintheory: i thought is was a normal cd/dvd with data on it
[04:25] <raintheory> wursthase - so this method only works with data iso?
[04:25] <wursthase> raintheory: thanks to the media industry, dvds use encrypted parts (css)
[04:26] <teledyn> oddly, i can download packages from the repositories with wget, but apt-get refuses to connect, unless i am using one certain network connection - the same one i used initially during the install
[04:26] <wursthase> raintheory: yes
[04:26] <raintheory> wursthase - its my own DVD, not a commercial one.. .   does that matter?
[04:27] <wursthase> raintheory: hmm, then it should be unencrypted. but i don't have any knowledge of the dvd filesystem layout, sorry.
[04:27] <wursthase> raintheory: i don't even have a dvd reader, only cd
[04:28] <raintheory> wursthase - thats okay, thanks for your help though!
[04:28] <opi> Hi
[04:28] <opi> I wonder if someone had similar problem
[04:28] <opi> after upgrading Dapper -> Eft my xorg died
[04:28] <bertugolu> can someone tell me a program like wine?
[04:28] <jrib> opi: #ubuntu+1 is for help with edgy eft
[04:28] <opi> it claim that there's a ABI problem between server and drivers
[04:28] <frogzoo> opi: -> #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <opi> jrib: ah! thanks ;)
[04:29] <jrib> bertugolu: cedega?
[04:29] <bertugolu> ok
[04:29] <raintheory> is there an ALSA  ubuntu channel?
[04:29] <Lobo_> hi
[04:29] <johso> segfault_: seems to solve solve the problem remotely. but I can't install dev-packages for things like liblame, libfaac libfaad? seems like I'm missing some mirror for nonfree stuff?
[04:30] <Lobo_> to install ubuntu on my core 2 duo laptop, which version must i dl, AMD64 or i386 ?
[04:30] <spook> Lobo_ : i386
[04:30] <Lobo_> and to have EMT64 instructions enabled ?
[04:30] <Ramana> hi there
[04:30] <spook> dunno about that...
[04:30] <Lobo_> :/ thx
[04:30] <Ramana> I am getting some dependency problems while installing Amarok.How can i install
[04:31] <bertugolu> emm jrib, i googlled cedega and gave me a a site in which u have 2 pay
[04:31] <AsheD> any idea why my Evolution gets *some* emails but not most?
[04:31] <raintheory> okay, so the VNC server on dapper/edgy is 3.7 but the viewer is 3.3 so wont work
[04:31] <jrib> bertugolu: right
[04:31] <bertugolu> i need to pay?
[04:31] <jrib> bertugolu: yes
[04:31] <frogzoo> Ramana: have you read the amarok wiki ?
[04:31] <raintheory> i mean i cant view my edgy install from dapper because it says protocol version is diff
[04:31] <bertugolu> that sucks
[04:31] <bertugolu> another program?
[04:32] <segfault_> johso, liblame-dev is in multiverse
[04:32] <raintheory> or vice versa, cant view dapper from edgy, gives same error
[04:32] <jstew> win4lin
[04:32] <jstew> but you have to pay for that too
[04:32] <johso> Ramana:  there is a repo for amarok so that you easily can install it via synaptic. I'll see if I can find it.
[04:32] <bertugolu> ???????
[04:32] <jstew> Or if you want to do virualization theres vmware or Qemu (which is free)
[04:32] <johso> segfault_: strange, it _is_ enabled.
[04:33] <bertugolu> jrib
[04:33] <bertugolu> antother program
[04:33] <raintheory> johso:   what advantages does amarok have over rhythmbox?
[04:33] <segfault_> johso, feel free to post ur sources.list in pastebin for further assistance
[04:33] <jrib> bertugolu: I don't know of others
[04:33] <estudiante> miguel
[04:33] <Ramana> johso, but while i am apt-get that is is saying some dependencies can not be installed on my system
[04:33] <sproingie> cedega is free if you compile it from cvs yourself
[04:33] <sproingie> which is not at all trivial
[04:34] <jrib> it's supposed to be lighter I guess
[04:34] <johso> Ramana: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok#head-c33c648c0ea0118764ef47028eece1a710e060a8
[04:34] <raintheory> Ramada:   are you on KDE or GDM?
[04:34] <jstew> cedega is nothing more than wine with gaming patched am I correct?
[04:34] <jstew> patches*
[04:34] <Justmike> I was wondering  -- can anyone point me to instructions on port forwarding in Ubuntu?
[04:34] <jhujhiti_> i'm getting the "major version doesn't match" error from X with fglrx. google and the forums have been no help. is there a solution to this?
[04:34] <raintheory> !iptables
[04:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[04:34] <jstew> !iptables
[04:34] <jstew> lol jinx
[04:34] <raintheory> hehe
[04:35] <sproingie> jstew: yeah it's basically a patched wine.  wine is a cranky beast to get configured right
[04:35] <dj_baggio> !trash
[04:35] <Ramana> raintheory, i use gdm but i prefer some of KDE applications, and one thing is i am Ramana not Ramada
[04:35] <frogzoo> sproingie: untrue
[04:35] <johso> raintheory: well, I don't like rhythmbox, and amarok is quite nice, can snip names from .cue files (good if you listen to ASoT), track your music files if you move them around (so you won't have to find them again), etc...
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <frogzoo> sproingie: have you tried wine lately ?
[04:36] <kuja> How long does it take to download the entire Ubuntu archive maintaining an average speed of about 150kb/s?
[04:36] <raintheory> ramana, yeah i noticed that about your nick after i posted that...  sorry!   :)
[04:36] <agutierr> hello all
[04:36] <Lobo_> anyone knows if i can enable EMT64 instructions with a i386 install ?
[04:36] <sproingie> frogzoo: yes i have. it compiles fine, but to get some apps working, you need specific snapshots from specific dates
[04:36] <raintheory> !amarok
[04:36] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[04:36] <jstew> amarok does cue files?
[04:36] <jhujhiti_> Lobo_: you need a 64-bit kernel
[04:36] <agutierr> someone knows how dont allow to normal users to halt pc from gdm and gnome ?
[04:36] <jstew> thats cool, I get lots of dj mixes that use cue files
[04:36] <Lobo_> i just have to change the kernel ?
[04:37] <sproingie> used to use wine to run picasa (before they "ported" it).  suffered worse bit rot than windows itself
[04:37] <jhujhiti_> Lobo_: that would probably work, yes. and your video drivers.
[04:37] <sproingie> it was more like bit-eating-bacteria
[04:38] <yrlnry> I have a hardware RAID controller and two identical disks.  I'm using the ubuntu "alternate install" CD.  It always seems to detect and partition the two underlying disk devices separately.  I was expecting it to detect one single RAID device.  Is something going wrong?
[04:38] <Lobo_> how can i change the kernel ?
[04:38] <jstew> I <3 picasa
[04:38] <raintheory> brb
[04:38] <Justmike> Hi I was wondering if someone could give me instrructions on setting up an SSH client in Ubuntu
[04:38] <jstew> look for linux-image in synaptic Lobo_
[04:38] <johso> segfault_: uhm, some kind of error on pastebin. I don't know any other tool alike, do you?
[04:38] <jstew> then just choose what kernel you want to install
[04:39] <Lobo_> thx
[04:39] <wursthase> yrlnry: then it is not a real hardware raid, but one of those crap controllers doing everything in the driver
[04:39] <jhujhiti> does anyone have a solution to the "major version doesn't match" error with X and the latest fglrx drivers?
[04:39] <raintheory> Lobo_  you may want to try the 686 kernel
[04:40] <johso> segfault_: finally, after a couple of errors, it seems to work: http://pastebin.com/809690
[04:42] <teledyn> ah fixed
[04:42] <teledyn> had to delete the line: Acquire::http::Proxy "false"  in apt.conf
[04:45] <l0st1> is the "check force" thing that happens when you start up a normal process?
[04:45] <LjL> l0st1: sorry?
[04:45] <l0st1> the check force
[04:46] <LjL> i'm not sure what you mean with that...
[04:46] <Svennig> hey guys - is there a command line dictionary file somewhere in the default install? something I can just grep through?
[04:46] <nikko82> does anyone know what can cause a "segmentation fault" when a use depmod?
[04:46] <l0st1> it said some about the disk being mounted 30 times....
[04:46] <l0st1> **something
[04:46] <frogzoo> nikko82: strace
[04:46] <LjL> Svennig: dictionary file you mean wordlist? i.e. a list of hopefully correctly spelled english words?
[04:46] <wursthase> l0st1: yes, thats normal
[04:46] <Svennig> LjL thats the one
[04:47] <AsheD> so, why can't I do anything to my hard drive?
[04:47] <frogzoo> l0st1: yes, check forced is to periodically check your file systems are in tact
[04:47] <raintheory> AsheD - your main hard drive or a second hard drive?
[04:47] <nikko82> frogzoo: thanks. how do i use it?
[04:47] <AsheD> secondary
[04:47] <raintheory> AsheD - is it mounted?
[04:48] <LjL> Svennig: try "cat /usr/share/dict/american-english", if you have the wamerican package installed
[04:48] <raintheory> AsheD - how is the disk formatted?
[04:48] <LjL> Svennig: or whatever is appropriate for the actual package you use
[04:48] <AsheD> raintheory:: yep, and seems to mount fine, but I can't change the permissions, chown, repartition, or anything else
[04:48] <Svennig> LjL nice one!
[04:48] <AsheD> raintheory:: it should be ext3 atm
[04:48] <sharms> if I install a library that overwrites one provided by a package, how do I let apt know?
[04:48] <LjL> Svennig: also "apt-cache search wordlist" gives you most of the entries that are relevant i think
[04:48] <AsheD> raintheory:: actually scratch that, I think its vfat atm
[04:49] <LjL> l0st1, that can be a pain, but it's done periodically to make sure your filesystem is OK and has not been corrupted by bugs...
[04:50] <LjL> sharms, well, if you can avoid it, just avoid it.
[04:50] <sharms> LjL: can't avoid it, I was thinking something along the lines of update-alternatives?
[04:50] <LjL> sharms: then, if you can't avoid it, the library or whatever should be installed in the /usr/local hierarchy rather than straight into the /usr hierarchy
[04:50] <Toxygene|work> uhg, pptp is ridiculously slow
[04:51] <Ramana> johso, i got this when i tried to do as per link amarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
[04:51] <LjL> sharms, APT doesn't normally touch /usr/local, so you should be safe putting things in there (which is usually the default for autoconf'd programs that you compile, by the way)
[04:51] <LjL> sharms: so libraries should end up in /usr/local/lib
[04:51] <raintheory> AsheD - PM me your /etc/fstab   and output of sudo fdisk -l
[04:51] <sharms> LjL: specifically the flash plugin
[04:51] <wursthase> LjL: on older systems i used to have a nice /usr/local zoo :)
[04:52] <sharms> LjL: so it is a shared library, but not under the normal /usr/lib hierarchy
[04:52] <johso> Ramana: have you tried apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[04:52] <Toxygene|work> This is killin' me. And worse yet, it's not even mildly lagged in windows.
[04:52] <raintheory> AsheD - or use pastebin
[04:52] <LjL> sharms: right... the other thing you may have to do is have an LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable set, which points to /usr/local/lib, so that libraries in there are actually recognized by the library loader
[04:53] <withaY> anyone here a CLI expert?
[04:53] <Ramana> johso, i got this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:53] <wursthase> withaY: "CLI" is amigaspeak. you mean "shell".
[04:53] <sharms> LjL: I think it is loaded by the browser, not ld.so
[04:54] <AsheD> raintheory:: atm it shows as having no partition under fdisk -l, but it won't let me add one either
[04:54] <withaY> amiga.  ha!  haven't heard of those since...forever.
[04:54] <wursthase> withaY: so whats your shell problem?
[04:54] <AsheD> raintheory:: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/3946
[04:54] <LjL> sharms: well, in my Konqueror i seem to be able to point to plugin locations manually. don't know about the specifics for Firefox (or whatever you're using) and the new Flash, however.
[04:55] <withaY> anyway, i'm coming from the OS X world.  i got used to "ls -al" listing .hidden files & directories first.  i can't figure out how to do that here.
[04:55] <LjL> !cli
[04:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:55] <LjL> wursthase: ^
[04:55] <yrlnry> When I try to reboot my ubuntu system, the last thing it says is "no reboot fixup found for your system".
[04:55] <johso> Ramana: Well, can't really help you with that kind of stuff / Got the same problem myself. I've got some dependencies I need, but I can't install because it tells me something about a different version.
[04:55] <LjL> wursthase: it's not amigaspeak at all really ;)
[04:55] <yrlnry> And then it hangs.
[04:55] <yrlnry> What's wrong?
[04:56] <ohoel> anyone having issues with their broadcom (bc4310)? I have a friend with one and while its fast in windows, connecting to a network via linux is dog slow
[04:56] <withaY> i'm beginning to wonder if OS X does it that way due to its "natural sort" algorithms.
[04:56] <Roberticus> hellou
[04:57] <wursthase> withaY: i think there is a environment variable for that, controlling the behaviour of ls
[04:57] <ohoel> I use ls -la in ubuntu
[04:57] <ohoel> works a treat here
[04:57] <withaY> yeah, i've been looking through the profile and bashrc files and can't seem to find anything.  just thought maybe someone here knew.
[04:57] <raintheory> AsheD - hmmm.
[04:58] <wursthase> withaY: just reading man ls
[04:58] <withaY> wursthase: did that, too.
[04:58] <Roberticus> the new version of edgy eft? is it the same as kubuntu-6.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso?
[04:58] <LjL> !edgy
[04:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:59] <JosefK> !schedule
[04:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:59] <Roberticus> is so, why is it saying last modified: 28-Sep-2006
[04:59] <JosefK> wow, release candidate today - gl whoever's working on that
[05:00] <Roberticus> but where can I get the rc?
[05:00] <hackman127> Anyone know how to install mod_proxy_balancer? I found 1 howto, but it has me compiling Apache, and I'd rather stay under package management.
[05:00] <snowblink> hackman127, Apache 2.2 feature
[05:00] <catalytic> hi all
[05:00] <catalytic> i have xubuntu installed
[05:00] <Roberticus> hello
[05:00] <pty> hackman127: or use checkinstall ?
[05:00] <eternalswd> how do I build a package from source in the repository?
[05:01] <catalytic> what is the easiest way for me to go back to ubuntu?
[05:01] <tapas_> hi, where do i find info on upstart?
[05:01] <catalytic> well I just want gnome
[05:01] <wursthase> withaY: it works here. files and dirs beginning with "." are listed first.
[05:01] <tapas_> [like config files etc..] 
[05:01] <catalytic> would it be better to install gnome on xubuntu?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> tapas_: edgy?
[05:01] <wursthase> withaY: no wait
[05:01] <LjL> eternalswd: "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>" to install the compile-time dependencies it needs, then "apt-get -b source <packagename>" to fetch the source package, compile it and get a binary package
[05:01] <jrib> ubotu: tell tapas_ about upstart
[05:01] <snowblink> catalytic, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <hackman127> pty, I'm afraid I'm new to Ubuntu, so I'm not familiar with that.
[05:01] <csmall> Why does Apache require apache2-utils and apache2-mpm-framework and libapache2-mod-php5 with php5 ont he server release?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> tapas_: please take edgy related questions to #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <Roberticus> anyone hear me?
[05:02] <catalytic> can i use synaptic snowblink?
[05:02] <jrib> Roberticus: no, but I can read what you type :)
[05:02] <Roberticus> ... :)
[05:02] <tapas_> jrib: thanks
[05:02] <kuja> How do I tell wget to not download what's already there locally?
[05:02] <tapas_> gnomefreak: ok
[05:02] <LjL> Roberticus, i can read you. however, i don't know where you get the RC, and you should probably ask about Edgy things on #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <pty> hackman127: it basically allows you to compile programs but then generate a .deb and install that
[05:02] <csmall> It seems pretty shitty to me that I want apache1 and it forces apache2 packages on me
[05:03] <snowblink> catalytic, up to you
[05:03] <hackman127> snowblink, How do I tell what version I am running?
[05:03] <Roberticus> where can I download the Release Candidate, since the 'beta' in the filename scares me away
[05:03] <mrmknet> Is there a way to set the default character encoding as in windows so text files, CD file names and programs in non-engliosh language are displayed correctly?
[05:03] <pty> hackman127: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[05:03] <snowblink> hackman127, Dapper ships with Apache 2.0. sic no mod_proxy_balancer
[05:03] <hackman127> pty, Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> hi
[05:04] <raintheory> AsheD - have you tried e2fsck on the drive?   Are you sure about the vfat format?  Looks to be ext3
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> i just tried to install the .deb from intel's website for my graphics card, and it borqued my DRI.
[05:04] <nikin> snowblink: what forces you to use apache2?
[05:04] <hackman127> snowblink, so I guess I have to compile 2.2 then?
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> i uninstalled the .deb that i installed to no avail.
[05:04] <csmall> When I install apache2 the alias files in /etc don't work for packages like cacti and nagios...whats the deal?
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> any help would be appreiciated.
[05:04] <snowblink> hackman127, correct
[05:04] <LjL> Roberticus, you should be scared by "release candidate" just as much as by "beta". wait until it's actually *released* if you want to avoid breaking your system
[05:04] <hackman127> snowblink, Thanks for the help.
[05:04] <snowblink> nikin, ?
[05:05] <snowblink> hackman127, but if you're doing that, do look at checkinstall like pty suggested
[05:05] <nikin> snowblink: nothing.. i misread the text... damn background :D damn me :D
[05:05] <AsheD> raintheory:: e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb
[05:06] <LjL> kuja: i am not entirely sure, but i think you should check out the -N option, which enables timestamping
[05:08] <surekha> Can someone help me with this error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string
[05:08] <surekha> I have a binary version of indic enabled firefox which I downloaded from http://bunny.medhas.org/historic/index.cgi/index.html?find=firefox1.0.4&plugin=find&path=indic
[05:08] <surekha> when I try to install and run the firefox, I get the error
[05:09] <nikin> hmm is there any command line ftp upload program?
[05:09] <LjL> surekha, it doesn't surprise me that things break if you use an third-party binary for something such as Firefox, rather than the repository-provided one. If that's what you've done, since I'm not sure I understood.
[05:09] <yrlnry> other tha nftp?
[05:09] <LjL> nikin: "ftp". or look at "apt-cache show wput".
[05:10] <snowblink> nikin, ncftp?
[05:10] <nikin> LjL: what i want is not installing packages but upload a file upadeted every 10 minutes to an ftp server
[05:10] <nikin> and that with a script
[05:10] <LjL> nikin: wput will help you with that.
[05:10] <berent> ge all
[05:11] <nikin> LjL :D tj
[05:11] <wursthase> withaY: it is the LANG variable
[05:11] <nikin> hmm is there any book telling all that kind of usefull information?
[05:11] <wursthase> withaY: if i "unset LANG", then ls sorts dotfiles and dotdirs first
[05:12] <raintheory> AsheD -   try     e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sdb1
[05:12] <wursthase> withaY: so it is a locale thing
[05:12] <AsheD> raintheory:: same error
[05:12] <LjL> nikin, "the best book is life" :-P anyway, i find that you can locate most interesting stuff by careful use of apt-cache and the man and apropos commands.
[05:13] <raintheory> okay replace the 8193 with 16384
[05:13] <LjL> nikin, and if you want to upload something every N minutes, i would suggest you do *not* write a script. use cron or anacron instead
[05:13] <LjL> !cron > nikin
[05:14] <raintheory> AsheD - try replacing 8193 with 16384, and if that doesnt work try 37268  (those are all locations of backup superblocks based on different blocksizes)
[05:14] <brenlae> hi, i just installed scite with synaptic and i can't save any files
[05:14] <scheuri> hi all
[05:14] <brenlae> it just says "cannot save file cut.c save under another filename?"
[05:14] <kmu> !schedule > kmu
[05:15] <nikin> LjL: i do that a lot :D Learning from life lasts a bit too long :D and i lack friends or collegues that are using Linux :(
[05:15] <LjL> nikin: then ask here ;)
[05:15] <AsheD> raintheory:: all those return the same error
[05:15] <nikin> LjL: thats what i ame doig all the time... :D
[05:15] <scheuri> I have a laptop where I have troubles with the MBR and the CD-ROM....I managed to install Ubuntu 6.06 but can't boot it (as said, troubles with harddisk) and made a grub boot floppy...does anyone know the command how to start a installed system with grub?
[05:16] <raintheory> AsheD - Do you have files on the drive?
[05:16] <AsheD> raintheory:: nope
[05:16] <fildo> *goners
[05:16] <withaY> wursthase:  what could that affect if it's unset?
[05:16] <AsheD> raintheory:: though I have tried fdisk etc unsucccessfully
[05:17] <raintheory> okay, try mke2fs -S      (to see if it will rewrite the superblocks and group descriptors only)
[05:18] <LjL> !install > scheuri
[05:18] <savje> hi! I'm new to ubuntu, could someone help me by telling em how to logg in as root?
[05:18] <brenlae> savje, just use sudo <command>
[05:18] <LjL> scheuri: i've never dwelled much into those realms, but i think there are many viable options. however, i think you should find the reason why you can't boot from a hard driver, rather than just going for a workaround
[05:19] <brenlae> there is no root account by default
[05:19] <LjL> !root > savje
[05:19] <raintheory> AsheD - See my comment above, forgot to direct it to you
[05:19] <AsheD> saw it
[05:19] <brenlae> so nobody knows how i could give scite permission to save files?
[05:19] <raintheory> oh okay
[05:19] <AsheD> d@sh-0:~$ mke2fs -S /dev/sdb1
[05:19] <AsheD> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:19] <AsheD> mke2fs: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[05:19] <scheuri> LjL: well, I know...but it would be great by starting to boot the ubuntu installed on the disk...its just...the grub floopy I just made (using community docs) leaves me with the grub command line...and I dont know how to work with that...
[05:20] <martalli> brenlae: I just came on, but are you trying to save to a place outside your home dir?  Maybe you need toi start scite from sudo
[05:20] <wursthase> withaY: the sort order. ls is locale aware. so it can behave different depending on the LANG variable. (error messages, number formats, ...)
[05:20] <g3b> hi all, having problem while trying to upgrade to edgy, x11-common is trying to overwrite a man page which xinit also has causing it to fail
[05:20] <g3b> anyone had a similar problem?
[05:20] <martalli> Does anyone know if RC1 will be released today?
[05:20] <LjL> !grub > scheuri
[05:21] <raintheory> Ashed - try: sudo mke2fs - S /dev/sdb1
[05:21] <brenlae> martalli, yeah sudo scite works fine, but i don't want to have to sudo each time
[05:21] <LjL> scheuri: the grub command line and I are not very good friends. but that link should have info
[05:21] <brenlae> and yes i'm saving to my home dir
[05:21] <ks> how do I make parallel install of mysql in ubuntu ?
[05:21] <AsheD> raintheory:: same error
[05:21] <scheuri> LjL: thousand thanks...:)....the cl of grub and me are not friends either...
[05:21] <[-NoX-] > !seen Celeste
[05:21] <ks> i need to specify other port , i guess
[05:21] <ubotu> I last saw Celeste (n=Celeste@85.237.25.82) 1d 3h 21m 42s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[05:21] <LjL> scheuri: in particular, i think you should see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[05:21] <raintheory> AsheD - hmmm
[05:21] <martalli> brenlae:  Maybe you could make a menu entry for "gksu scite"...but you would still need to enter a password, of cousre.
[05:22] <raintheory> Anyone else want to chime in on this one?
[05:22] <brenlae> hm ok
[05:22] <raintheory> I may be stumped at the moment, AsheD  /
[05:22] <AsheD> raintheory:: me too :X
[05:22] <Stormx2> Guys, I have a 60gb FAT music partition and I want to make it to ext3. It doesn't have much free space. Is there any way I can do this?
[05:22] <withaY> wursthase:  other than that, will it adversely affect anything else like programs, etc?
[05:22] <rukuartic> Hurr... is there anything out there for Linux like the SRS WOWEfx thing for WMP?
[05:23] <scheuri> LjL: I actually did...I made that and have a floopy now that wonderfully works...but now I am ending up at "grub>" :)
[05:23] <roshan_s> Stormx2: No.
[05:23] <wursthase> withaY: yes, it will
[05:23] <wursthase> withaY: if you just want to change the ls behaviour, you could wrap ls with a shell function that unsets LANG just for this command
[05:24] <scheuri> LjL: would be great to have something like the Boot-CDs (alternate eg) which allows with a menu entry to "boot from the hard disk"...
[05:24] <LjL> scheuri: the Desktop CD has that
[05:24] <withaY> wursthase:  such as?  could it also be done for nautilus without adversely affecting it?
[05:24] <LjL> scheuri: however i think it just invokes your HD's Grub, which won't help you much if that's broken
[05:25] <wursthase> withaY: shell functions cannot affect gui programs
[05:25] <scheuri> LjL: that is actually the question...is it just the MBR whichis broken or the whole grub....
[05:25] <rukuartic> O-o; Whoops.
[05:25] <LjL> scheuri: you could probably also use the Desktop CD to directly boot from a HD partition, if you press F6 (i think it is) and give it the right options... something on the lines of "linux root=/dev/hda".
[05:26] <scheuri> LjL: that is where it gets difficult...for some reason the CD-Drive does not work anymore...:(...that is why I handle with floppies right now
[05:26] <scheuri> LjL: once I should be able to boot in to the installed ubuntu I will make a special boot disk...but...well
[05:26] <LjL> scheuri: well, what about you just try with "boot (hd0)"? not sure that's really the right syntax, but there is a "help" command anyway
[05:27] <LjL> scheuri: or "boot (hd0,0)" or something, even, to boot the first partition where you conceivably have Ubuntu installed
[05:28] <savje> how do I edit a .list file with the terminal?
[05:28] <LjL> savje: would that be /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:28] <savje> yes :)
[05:28] <LjL> savje: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" will work
[05:28] <wursthase> withaY: function ls() { unset LANG; /bin/ls "$@"; }
[05:28] <scheuri> LjL: just working on that...the command "boot" actually exists...but...well
[05:28] <LjL> scheuri: yeah, that "boot" is a valid command, i was sure ;-) it's the rest of the syntax that i'm not entirely sure about
[05:29] <nikin> LjL : i begin to get the feeling of it... maybe i will manage to make my program work :D
[05:29] <savje> thanks LjL!
[05:29] <safeer> hi
[05:29] <g3b> safeer: hi
[05:29] <scheuri> LjL: thanks a lot....I am looking into it...:)
[05:29] <brenlae> well, here's my problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280379 if anybody could reply i'd appreciate it
[05:30] <brenlae> i tried chmod 777 /home/brenlae but that didn't work :s
[05:30] <withaY> wursthase:  where would i put that?  not in .bashrc, right?
[05:30] <chrishoeppner> i really gotta hate vmware stuff... i update to edgy, run vmware-config.pl and it just doesn't start nor tell me anything is wrong...
[05:30] <wursthase> withaY: i'd put it there
[05:31] <wursthase> withaY: below the ls aliases lines
[05:31] <odes> anyone who could help me with my sound problem?
[05:32] <kmu> !hello > kmu
[05:32] <rambo3> doesnt int main return 0 buy default
[05:33] <safeer> hi
[05:33] <kuja> How do I *download* a package and all its dependencies from the Ubuntu archive in an automated fashion on Windows?
[05:33] <safeer> usman
[05:33] <kuja> Anyone know of a tool?
[05:33] <kmu> !ubotu > kmu
[05:33] <berent> rambo3 : no
[05:33] <pty> brenlae: does scite give an error message?
[05:33] <ephemeros> salut
[05:34] <wursthase> rambo3: better explicitly return 0
[05:34] <jazzygm> if anyone has a moment I'm looking for suggestions why my ubuntu install always freezes up (during loading!)
[05:34] <kuja> jazzygm: The install process?
[05:34] <cesar1996> wenas
[05:34] <withaY> wursthase:  thanks for your tips.  i just tried it and it does things correctly.  however, doing "echo $LANG" shows nothing now.
[05:34] <brenlae> OMG
[05:34] <brenlae> I FOUND OUT
[05:35] <berent> rambo3 : it depends on the compiler and somewhere your main gets stuck it may silently escape with  a negative value
[05:35] <variant> kuja: ask in #windows
[05:35] <Fastly> how long until edgy officially released?
[05:35] <jazzygm> kuja: yeah - im trying to download the alternate iso now
[05:35] <brenlae> i was saving in /home/ctut.c not /home/brenlae/ctut.c
[05:35] <variant> Fastly: 26th
[05:35] <LjL> !schedule > Fastly
[05:35] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, hey
[05:35] <Fastly> thanks
[05:35] <strabes> fastly: it comes out on the 26th
[05:35] <erUSUL> kuja: apt-zip
[05:35] <brenlae> sorry!
[05:35] <teledyn> jazzygm: during loading of what?
[05:35] <erUSUL> !info apt-zip
[05:35] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.13.5 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:35] <kuja> variant: That's just as much relevant as asking here, so I'm asking the friendly people.
[05:35] <wursthase> withaY: oh, my fault. wait..
[05:35] <variant> kuja: no, its not at all relevent here
[05:35] <Fastly> if i download the beta will it automatically upgrade to the full release?
[05:35] <kuja> erUSUL: The connected machine is Windows. The machine that needs to be upgraded is Ubuntu, yes...
[05:35] <cesar1996> wenas
[05:35] <jazzygm> teledyn: When I boot off the dapper drake iso and select install it takes ages to laod up the GUI and then freezes
[05:35] <kuja> So I'd need to get the packages from Windows, erUSUL.
[05:36] <variant> kuja: your asking about windows tools to be used on a windows system, it doesnt matter what your downloading them with
[05:36] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, hey
[05:36] <cesar1996> k aces
[05:36] <variant> kuja: your best bet is to ask on #windows where people will probably know
[05:36] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, so what's your problem with vmware?
[05:36] <kuja> variant: My best bet is actually either, where both sides will likely *not* know.
[05:36] <variant> kuja: and fyi, they can be friendly :)
[05:36] <odes> some help with my sound problem, please
[05:36] <cbx33> odes, what's up?
[05:36] <cesar1996> jilipollas
[05:37] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, i dunno. it doesn't complain. it doesn't start.
[05:37] <cesar1996> maricon
[05:37] <wursthase> withaY: function ls() { LANG= /bin/ls "$@"; }     (notice the blank behind LANG=)
[05:37] <kuja> variant: But after I'm done here, I will probably be heading there.
[05:37] <cesar1996> kui9io,p
[05:37] <odes> just installet dapper drake but no sound
[05:37] <variant> kuja: anything you say
[05:37] <cbx33> chrishoeppner,  so you type sudo vmware-install.pl
[05:37] <cbx33> what happens?
[05:37] <odes> dont know anything about unix
[05:37] <cbx33> odes...what sound card?
[05:37] <Fastly> will edgy beta upgrade to the final release via the updater?
[05:37] <variant> odes: is your card muted?
[05:37] <odes> no
[05:37] <variant> Fastly: yes
[05:37] <cbx33> Fastly, yes
[05:37] <Fastly> thanks
[05:37] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, allready did it. configured it, compiled the headers and else.. still not workgin
[05:37] <rambo3> berent, you didn't read the code , so saying no
[05:38] <odes> soundcard: intel something :)
[05:38] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, what happens when you run vmware from the console?
[05:38] <cbx33> odes, hmm....
[05:38] <kuja> odes: What happens when you try to play something in your music player?
[05:38] <cbx33> dos the volume icon show?
[05:38] <berent> rambo3 : code? where's it? i just saw ur q sorry if i was hurrying
[05:38] <withaY> wursthase:  yay!  thanks so much!  fyi...i just assumed nautlius was doing the same thing.  it actually puts .hiddens below everything else which is fine with me.
[05:38] <odes> volume icon: yes
[05:39] <cbx33> ok check volume levels
[05:39] <cbx33> just to make sure
[05:39] <odes> when i try to play a movie just no sound
[05:39] <cbx33> goto System->Prefs->sound
[05:39] <wimpies> Hi all, I have trouble getting my nvidia card to go to 1280x1024
[05:39] <kuja> You might also want to check to make sure your card is not on mute either
[05:39] <odes> all the levels are upp
[05:39] <cbx33> test the sound devices wee what happens
[05:39] <berent> rambo3 : but ya int main not returns 0 by default
[05:39] <rambo3> empty main with return 0; anyway there wa a bif deal about that on c++ support channel when i started c .
[05:39] <cbx33> wimpies, what's the problem
[05:39] <cbx33> is the res not in the screen selection?
[05:39] <wimpies> xinit says : no modes or something
[05:40] <fescuder> hola esta luis
[05:40] <cbx33> ok
[05:40] <cbx33> wimpies, can you apstebin your xorg.conf?
[05:40] <wimpies> I have copied over what I had for my ATI but that did not work
[05:40] <kuja> wimpies: Are you using the nvidia module?
[05:40] <kuja> The nvidia driver, I mean.
[05:40] <wimpies> yes, nvidie works perfectly
[05:40] <fescuder> gabbiaol
[05:40] <odes> default sound card: HDA Intel, no other choises
[05:40] <wimpies> cbx33 : where ?
[05:40] <kuja> So when X starts, you see the nVidia logo?
[05:40] <cbx33> ok....do the tests produce sound
[05:40] <cbx33> wimpies, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:40] <fescuder> mi nuber es 51420693
[05:40] <wimpies> ok Hold on
[05:40] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, nothing.
[05:41] <cesar1996> hello
[05:41] <fescuder> helo
[05:41] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, what....just absolutely nothing
[05:41] <LjL> fescuder: what are you trying to do? que haces?
[05:41] <cbx33> the terminal says nothing?
[05:41] <wimpies> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27337/ : xorg.conf
[05:41] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, no. nothing. terminal also nothing.
[05:41] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, weird...
[05:41] <cbx33> hmmm
[05:41] <cbx33> ok run this
[05:41] <rm_you> hey, so i just created my raid5 array (5 disks @ 250gb ea. == ~1tb) and i'm wondering if anyone has suggestions about what filesystem to use. I have been using reiserfs on every drive I have for a while now because I tend to use a lot of small files, but I'm not sure if it's well suited to raid disks... suggestions?
[05:41] <savje> when I run "sudo apt-get update" I get this error message: "GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>". What does that mean and what should I do to fix it? I still run on ubuntu 5.10...
[05:41] <rm_you> also, any idea why it's "recovering" my fifth disk right after I created the blank array?! >_>
[05:41] <cbx33> strace vmware
[05:42] <odes> when i click on the play buttons nothing happens
[05:42] <ks> how do I get mysql 5 installed, while preserving existing mysql 4 under ubuntu ? I don't want to upgrade, but rather have another server instance.
[05:42] <cbx33> hmm... wimpies I've never seen those @75 Hz bits before
[05:42] <cbx33> odes....that' is odd
[05:42] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, lots of weird stuff...
[05:42] <wimpies> ignore those : was my try but did not work
[05:42] <LjL> !gpgerr > savje
[05:42] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, can you pastebin a good screens worth
[05:43] <savje> thanks again LjL!'
[05:43] <cbx33> wimpies, what card is it?
[05:43] <wimpies> 7300GS
[05:43] <cbx33> heh
[05:43] <cbx33> I hve a 7300 GT OC
[05:43] <odes> in system, administration, device manager, there are a lot of unknown devices!
[05:43] <cbx33> mine works fine
[05:43] <cbx33> odes....do this for me
[05:43] <wimpies> it does work fine but I cannot get the high resolution
[05:43] <cbx33> open up a terminal
[05:43] <odes> ok
[05:44] <cbx33> and type
[05:44] <cbx33> lspci
[05:44] <odes> ok
[05:44] <cbx33> can you apste bin that output for me?
[05:44] <wimpies> I get this in xorg.log : (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x1024@75"; removing.
[05:44] <wimpies> (again ignore 75 )
[05:44] <cbx33> can you take out those lines and try again
[05:44] <cbx33> just for my sanity
[05:44] <odes> sorry, it on another computer
[05:44] <wimpies> ok
[05:44] <cbx33> just remove the @75
[05:44] <Icer> i have one question: should i upgrade warthog to drake ? or isnt it necessery ?(wont be any probs with .deb)
[05:45] <cbx33> odes
[05:45] <cbx33> ok hang on
[05:45] <wimpies> lspci result : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27338/  - back in a sec
[05:45] <totall_6_7> Icer: you should follow the chain of upgrades and not skip
[05:45] <cbx33> odes, can you give me some indication of lspci | grep audio
[05:45] <cbx33> Icer, one at a time ;)
[05:46] <cbx33> might be better to copy your home dir off
[05:46] <cbx33> and install edgy ;)
[05:46] <sami> anyone know, howto install .msi files with cedega
[05:46] <mastastealth> I just installed X-chat, but I can't see the users in the channel. how do I enable that?
[05:46] <Icer> totall_6_7:ok:)
[05:46] <LjL> Icer: i'm not sure you can do that upgrade directly. i think you should pass through the intermediate versions. and yes i would upgrade, since Warty isn't supported anymore
[05:46] <LjL> !upgrade > Icer
[05:46] <cbx33> mastastealth, did you install xchat or xchat-gnome?
[05:46] <ubuntu_> hey I have problem with ubuntu booting
[05:46] <variant> Icer: LjL is correct, you will have to do it incrementaly
[05:46] <mastastealth> cbx22, I believe regular xchat
[05:46] <mastastealth> *33
[05:46] <cbx33> hmm....
[05:47] <cbx33> is universe repo setup?
[05:47] <mastastealth> yup
[05:47] <cbx33> there are two versions
[05:47] <cbx33> mastastealth, do me dpkg -l | grep xchat
[05:47] <odes> ok, i have the whole list now, but should i post it here?
[05:47] <cbx33> odes....hm...no
[05:47] <cbx33> in a postbin
[05:47] <cbx33> goto
[05:48] <cbx33> postbin.ca
[05:48] <wimpies> cbx33 : MUUUUCH better ... it now works !
[05:48] <jazzygm> btw, if I ever managed to install ubuntu, does g++ come as a standard install?
[05:48] <wimpies> thx
[05:48] <Icer> Ljl:thx
[05:48] <Icer> variant:thx
[05:48] <LjL> jazzygm: no
[05:48] <LjL> !compile > jazzygm
[05:48] <mastastealth> well, its xchat and xchat-common. 2.6.6-0ubuntu3
[05:48] <cbx33> wimpies, ;)
[05:48] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, have a look at http://pastebin.com/809722
[05:48] <cbx33> mastastealth,
[05:48] <cbx33> what does apt-cache search xchat yield?
[05:48] <odes> don't know how
[05:48] <cbx33> odes
[05:49] <Sev> Greetings
[05:49] <teledyn> jazzygm: maybe a bad iso image you burned it from?  did you check the md5sum before burning?
[05:49] <cbx33> just copy and paste into pastebin....click submit
[05:49] <cbx33> and the send me the link it gives you
[05:49] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, pastebin.com is slowhere....could ya do .ca for me instead?
[05:49] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:49] <gnu2it2> what is a good serial terminal program?
[05:50] <mastastealth> xchat-gnome, gnome-common, xchat, xchat-common, guile, systray, and xchat-xsys
[05:50] <cbx33> hmmm.
[05:50] <cbx33> oh
[05:50] <cbx33> are you sure you can't drag out the users on the right
[05:50] <wursthase> gnu2it2: minicom
[05:50] <Sev> Just curious, a friend of mine is having grun-install issues. Essentially winblowz had overwritten the mbr and he needs to fix grub.. easy usually as I've done it many times myself but we've come upon a rather odd problem.. after chrooting into the linux partition no hd references exist in /dev/ .. I've never seen this before.. any ideas?
[05:50] <cbx33> I seem to recall having that issue on one machine
[05:50] <Sev> *grub
[05:50] <gnu2it2> thanks
[05:50] <mastastealth> lol! I knew it. I was looking for that at first, but I guess I missed it. I had the same thing once before.
[05:50] <cbx33> Sev ... hmm
[05:51] <mastastealth> thx
[05:51] <wursthase> gnu2it2: you can also use screen for serial communication, though it is not screen's original purpose
[05:51] <Sev> cbx33, That's what I said.. odd huh.
[05:51] <chrishoeppner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27339/
[05:51] <wimpies> I got this list of packages I need to install from my old system. How can I feed this list to apt-get ?
[05:52] <cbx33> wimpies, when you say list?
[05:52] <cbx33> space seperated?
[05:52] <Sev> cbx33, I assume simply copying the refs from the live cd is a no no?
[05:52] <odes> it workes really slow
[05:52] <cbx33> if so just apt-get install the_list
[05:52] <wimpies> one per line but It are a lot of packages ( got it with dpkg --get-selectsion)
[05:52] <wursthase> wow, now we got unstable fglrx and insecure nvidia. time to buy intel shared memory gfx cards.
[05:53] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, try in the #vmware channel
[05:53] <cbx33> that one has me stumped
[05:53] <tRSS> my apt-get was working just fine yesterday, but today, it is giving this error: dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. \n dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH. ....
[05:53] <DBO> wursthase, its been fixed in the beta drivers for a while and your need remote X enabled to be vulnerable remotely...
[05:53] <Khamael> how severe is the nvidia security problem?
[05:53] <LjL> wimpies: "dpkg --set-selections"
[05:53] <cbx33> Sev, that is very odd
[05:53] <watchme> Hi all....
[05:53] <LjL> wimpies: do read the dpkg manpage, however, please
[05:53] <chrishoeppner> cbx33, thanks :)
[05:53] <wursthase> DBO: okay, thanks
[05:53] <odes> nothing happens when i try to send
[05:53] <Daviey> Hi,  Can anybody tell me if making /home a symlink to a different location is a problem?
[05:54] <cbx33> chrishoeppner, show them that pastebin....it may mean something to them
[05:54] <LjL> Daviey: why do you want to do that?
[05:54] <watchme> can anyone help me with an ubuntu edgy and a non working XGL-Bryl combination?
[05:54] <weedar> I have an mp3 player that connects fine to my laptop running kubuntu-dapper, but on my desktop (also running kubuntu-dapper) it is not mounted - nor are there any /dev/sdX files created when connecting it. It is however charging via USB
[05:54] <watchme> +e
[05:54] <Sev> cbx33, It's all standard ide drives.. should be /dev/hda .. the live cd picks it up no probs obviously else we wouldn't e able to chroot. I just don't understand how the refs in the chroot /dev/ dissapeared.
[05:54] <cbx33> odes....goto ....http://pastebin.ca
[05:54] <cbx33> hmmm
[05:54] <raintheory> watchme   -   might want to try in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:54] <tRSS> my apt-get was working just fine yesterday, but today, it is giving this error: dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. \n dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH. ....
[05:54] <cbx33> Sev so what does sudo fdisk /dev/hda show?
[05:54] <Daviey> LjL, Because i have a 'storage' mount that is already mounted (LVM) and i want home to be within that
[05:54] <cbx33> oh....
[05:55] <cbx33> nah
[05:55] <cbx33> hmmm
[05:55] <cbx33> try that
[05:55] <watchme> raintheory: I was there, but no one is answering me
[05:55] <Sev> cbx33, doesn't exist in the chroot.
[05:55] <watchme> raintheory: maybe all are afk
[05:55] <odes> ok, http://pastebin.ca/210180
[05:55] <raintheory> watchme - oh okay...   what sort of probs are you having?
[05:55] <raintheory> watchme - I'm running XGL/Beryl on Dapper
[05:55] <LjL> Daviey: well, i do have /home as a separate partition, but never tried a symlink.
[05:55] <cbx33> #
[05:55] <cbx33> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[05:56] <cbx33> odes, google for that card 82801G and linux
[05:56] <watchme> I tried many tutorials, but I get always the same problem: when I start the beryl-manager my X freezes, and I have to restart it
[05:56] <cbx33> see what you find
[05:56] <cbx33> watchme, tried hte '#beryl channel?
[05:56] <Daviey> LjL, Can i mount a mount (if that makes sense) ie "mount /home /mnt/storage/home"
[05:56] <cbx33> they are really helpful
[05:56] <wursthase> Daviey: mount --bind is for that
[05:56] <watchme> cbx33: not yet.. :(
[05:56] <sojeda> ola
[05:56] <cbx33> watchme, they are good in there
[05:57] <wursthase> Daviey: mount --bind /source/dir /target/dir
[05:57] <watchme> on this Server?
[05:57] <cbx33> watchme, what nvidia drivers are you using?
[05:57] <cbx33> watchme, yes
[05:57] <LjL> Daviey: err... no, not sure that makes much sense ;-) you mean if you can mount somewhere else a directory that is part, itself, of a mount? in that case, the command would be reversed: "mount /mnt/storage/home /home", but no, it won't work anyway
[05:57] <watchme> cbx33: the newest
[05:57] <watchme> cbx33: and i have a Geforce 7300GT
[05:57] <Donald1> Hello, i'm having trouble installing EasyUbuntu, each time it says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718" what does it mean?
[05:57] <cbx33> watchme, newest as in BETA?
[05:57] <LjL> Daviey: maybe you could manage to avoid doing awkward things, by just mounting your partition as /home, and having a "storage" directory within it, even if it's not associated to any user?
[05:58] <watchme> nope... the newest stable
[05:58] <watchme> 83 or something
[05:58] <cbx33> and it worked fine
[05:58] <watchme> OpenGL version string: 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.74
[05:58] <cbx33> i think I saw a howto which said you need the latest beta drivers?
[05:58] <mbb> looking for ideas, comments, suggestions on a chat client that supports video, on PC, using USB camera - (may be the way to convert the widow lady next door to Linux)
[05:58] <cbx33> check with the #beryl guys
[05:58] <watchme> ok... thx :D
[05:58] <LjL> Daviey: well yeah, that does sound like what you'd want... you'd have to manage to put that in your fstab though
[05:58] <cbx33> mbb, AMSN does that
[05:59] <Donald1> i'm having trouble installing EasyUbuntu, each time it says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718" what does it mean?
[05:59] <LjL> !easyubuntu > Donald1
[05:59] <cbx33> Donald1, it means it couldn't find a GPG key
[05:59] <boink> it means what is says
[05:59] <LjL> !gpgerr > Donald1
[05:59] <sjust1216> anyone know why I might have two instances of gnome-settings-daemon in my system monitor
[05:59] <mbb> cbx33: thanks!
[05:59] <wursthase> LjL: bind mounts can be in fstab, no problem
[05:59] <AsheD> raintheory:: I am a genius, and a moron at the same time.  I wrote a partition to the drive, but no FS :X
[05:59] <LjL> wursthase, Daviey: alright then
[06:00] <cbx33> Sev, that one has stumped me
[06:00] <Daviey> LjL, bind is *exactly* what i want! Thanx
[06:00] <cbx33> is this a dapper live cd?
[06:00] <watchme> cbx33: no one is answering ... :D maybe I should type in great letters?
[06:00] <LjL> Daviey: thank you, i learned something new.
[06:00] <cbx33> watchme, they will just give it time
[06:00] <Sev> cbx33, yeah me too, luckily he was wise and put home on a seperate partition so a reinstall shouldn't be a major issue.
[06:00] <cbx33> they are very helpful
[06:00] <wursthase> LjL: /home/data /usr/local/data none  bind  0  0     (fstab line)
[06:00] <cbx33> Sev even so...
[06:00] <watchme> ok ;)
[06:00] <Donald1> Ljl: thank you
[06:01] <cbx33> the grub reinstall is usually pretty straight forward
[06:01] <LjL> Daviey: see wursthase above
[06:01] <cbx33> unless you define as (hd0,0)
[06:01] <Daviey> wursthase, Thanx!
[06:01] <cbx33> can you do that with grub-install?
[06:01] <Sev> Tried and failed.
[06:01] <cbx33> in that manner I can't remember
[06:01] <cbx33> *bah* tupid machines
[06:01] <Sev> via grub not grub-install
[06:01] <Sev> Same thing though it just cant see the dick.
[06:01] <Sev> *disk even
[06:02] <watchme> Sev: ROFL
[06:02] <berent> dick? Sev
[06:02] <Sev> tee hee
[06:02] <jazzygm> sez; LOL
[06:02] <Sev> yeah yeah it's late here
[06:02] <gh0st> hello, what is the command to mute, incread/decrease volume in gnome/ubuntu?
[06:02] <watchme> its 6pm here, so ..... :D
[06:02] <berent> so u can't see the dick at 6pm ?? :-)
[06:03] <wursthase> Thu Oct 19 18:03:25 CEST 2006
[06:03] <berent> lol] 
[06:03] <Sev> Anyhoo I don't have the patience to 'nut' this out now so I'll just reinstall tomorrow. Thanks anyway guys.
[06:03] <watchme> I can always see a dick... mine ;)
[06:03] <LjL> !language
[06:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:03] <LjL> please
[06:03] <berent> disk i mean
[06:03] <berent> lol
[06:03] <gh0st> hello, what is the command to mute, increase/decrease volume in gnome/ubuntu?
[06:03] <savje> just gone over to ubuntu from windows, I'm looking for a bittorrent program with multi-torrent support. In windows I used utorrent, so as alike uTorrent the better...
[06:04] <sharperguy> sev, c and s arnt that close, you must be used to typeing that word
[06:04] <ephemeros> is there a way to install the latest Gaim from an Ubuntu  repository?
[06:04] <cbx33> sorry Sev
[06:04] <watchme> savje: how about azureus
[06:04] <cbx33> right that's my 30 mins of support up...
[06:04] <sharperguy> google image search anyone?
[06:04] <LjL> ephemeros, Ubuntu Edgy will be released soon, and i believe it will have a newer version of Gaim
[06:04] <gh0st> savje: azureus
[06:04] <cbx33> I'm going to go do some python coding
[06:05] <cbx33> LjL edgy is looking slick
[06:05] <cbx33> I'm running it now
[06:05] <savje> watchme & ghost: don't azureus take very much from the 'power'
[06:05] <weedar> I'm trying to modprobe usb-storage in an attempt to fix this unmountable mp3 player, but my shell just hangs when I do this (not the entire computer) - Does anyone have a suggestion as to what my next step should be?
[06:05] <berent> gh0st : command is  + / - if u r using mplayer
[06:05] <savje> CPU 'power' that is
[06:05] <cbx33> ephemeros, what did you want to know
[06:05] <ephemeros> LjL: i know, it was only an example
[06:05] <gh0st> berent: no in fact i want to make shortcuts on my multimedia keys: so i want the GLOBAL controls
[06:05] <ephemeros> cbx33: i want to know where are the latest versions of software for dapper, usually
[06:06] <cbx33> well in the repos you have
[06:06] <cbx33> new features are not implemented till the next release
[06:06] <wursthase> weedar: try to find out what happens on the usb bus before modprobe usb-storage
[06:06] <cbx33> only bug fixes generally
[06:06] <LjL> ephemeros: well, then the answer is: no, unless the package you want has been backported (type /msg ubotu backports to know about that). otoh you can ask on a dedicated forum to have packages backported.
[06:06] <wursthase> weedar: dmesg output after plugging the player in, lsusb and such
[06:06] <ephemeros> oh, ok, i get it
[06:06] <ephemeros> thanks Lil, cbx33
[06:06] <weedar> wursthase: lsusb also hangs :/
[06:07] <cbx33> np
[06:07] <LjL> Donald1, please ask questions in the channel. more people will be able to help. since i rarely ever got GPG errors when using APT, i'm not so confident with solutions.
[06:07] <wursthase> weedar: hmm. then something is going wrong on the usb bus communication. try looking at dmesg output.
[06:08] <wursthase> weedar: do you have an unusual usb controller in the desktop?
[06:08] <rem64> hi all
[06:09] <wursthase> weedar: and check if other usb devices work on the desktop machine
[06:09] <weedar> wursthase: It is a standard on-board controller and I am currently using a usb mouse just fine
[06:10] <berent> gh0st : there is a xml file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard though .
[06:10] <mjesus1994> hello
[06:11] <wursthase> weedar: it could be a timing issue between the controller and the mp3 player, but i don't know how to fix that
[06:11] <mjesus1994> my namer is maria jesus
[06:11] <mjesus1994> and you
[06:11] <berent> me?
[06:12] <oddjob151> could someone direct me to a resource that will help me upgrade my Kernel in Ubuntu? I'm trying to determine if i can just download the src from ftp.kernel.org or if i should use apt
[06:12] <mjesus1994> e toi
[06:12] <oddjob151> the caveat to this is that I need to upgrade to a kernel that also supports Intel Core 2 Duo / 64 bit
[06:12] <berent> use apt
[06:13] <Chm0d> hello guys how ya doin?  Can anyone please tell me how to get rid of mythtv completely?  I can't even update my computer because of some error mythtv is giving me
[06:13] <mjesus1994> chmod
[06:13] <mjesus1994> chmod-
[06:13] <Chm0d> yes
[06:13] <cbx33> oddjob151, no
[06:13] <cbx33> there is an easier way than that
[06:13] <cbx33> hmmm.
[06:13] <cbx33> are you running 64bit at the mo?
[06:14] <mjesus1994> cbx33
[06:14] <M_A_K> I just reinstalled ubuntu edited partitions manually.  I did not see where to set a partition bootable.  Now cannot boot.  Can I boot from CD and set the partition bootable?
[06:15] <mjesus1994> hello
[06:15] <M_A_K> Or do I need to reinstall?
[06:15] <oddjob151> cbx33: yes.. i installed the latest edby daily build 64 bit version.. and the kernel that was installed is uname -r = 2.6.17-10-generic
[06:15] <mjesus1994> bonjour
[06:15] <eXistenZ> How can I switch the way nautilus displays the path to the file into an address bar. (not only through ctrl+l, but permanently)
[06:15] <mjesus1994> salut
[06:15] <berent> cbx33 :i am new to this but does it matter which kernel depends on processor ?
[06:15] <cbx33> oddjob151, that is the right one
[06:15] <cbx33> berent, expand on that statement?
[06:16] <Chm0d> anyone?
[06:16] <ubuntu> anyone ehre who can help me configure my pcmcia eth0 in my laptop....it is not detected
[06:16] <oddjob151> cbx33: well.. i'm having issues with the JMicron SATA driver, and my understanding is that this is fixed in the 2.6.18 kernel
[06:17] <cbx33> oh i see
[06:17] <cbx33> oddjob151, yeh we probably won;t have the 18 kernel for a little while
[06:17] <jrib> eXistenZ: in nautilus' preferences, edit > preferences
[06:17] <cbx33> is there a patch for 17-18?
[06:17] <azathoth> if i run the new nvidia beta drivers, i won't need xgl right? i can just run compiz natively... and will that mean i can play games without any faffing about?
[06:17] <Chm0d> can anyone tell me how to completely get rid of mythtv?
[06:17] <cbx33> you could always download the source from ubuntu and patch it
[06:17] <M_A_K> Can anybody tell me how to set a partition bootable after install?  I can boot from CD.
[06:17] <cbx33> azathoth, should do
[06:17] <jrib> eXistenZ: if it's not there, then you can get at it with gconf-editor
[06:18] <azathoth> sweet
[06:18] <a7p> hello ... does anyone know where the networkmanager saves the information about the vpns? I've got one unremovable entry ..
[06:18] <eXistenZ> jrib, It is there; fixed. Thanks :)
[06:18] <berent> ubuntu: go to network tools under administration and enable it
[06:18] <cbx33> I'm off for a while guys
[06:18] <azathoth> to play games with opengl acceleration i have to go through an alternate xserver
[06:18] <cbx33> take care all
[06:18] <ubuntu> its not there
[06:18] <ubuntu> it cant b seen
[06:18] <LjL> !xgl > azathoth
[06:19] <berent> under preferences?
[06:20] <cbx33> azathoth, eh?
[06:20] <berent> ubuntu : what do u see in dmesg
[06:20] <cbx33> opengl acceleration...dont; you gt that by default
[06:21] <hutchGuy> !seen john
[06:21] <ubotu> John is on IRC right now!
[06:21] <azathoth> ljl: what?
[06:21] <LjL> azathoth: just informing you that there is an #ubuntu-xgl channel for xgl/beryl/compiz etc. specific discussion
[06:22] <jazzygm> guys, my first ubuntu install, do I want delete the entire disk, or delete the entire disk and use LVM??
[06:22] <azathoth> okay, thanks... nothign happened btw, ubotu is broken methinks
[06:22] <LjL> !xgl
[06:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:23] <azathoth> ah he messaged me, cycled out of my open channel list
[06:23] <ubuntu> theres a lot actually what am i looking for... by the way its in the laptop noit in this pc ... this comp is working fine
[06:24] <eXistenZ> How can I assign default programs for the different extensions?
[06:24] <hutchGuy> bot is acting weird, john is offline. heheh
[06:25] <ubuntu> berent is it the ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver?
[06:25] <LjL> hutchGuy: no, he's online ;)
[06:25] <jazzygm> guys, my first ubuntu install, do I want delete the entire disk, or delete the entire disk and use LVM?? whats LVM?
[06:25] <cbx33> LjL, the #beryl channel is great too
[06:25] <hutchGuy> "/msg nickserv info john"
[06:25] <a7p> eXistenZ, right cklick an extension and choose the last Properties.
[06:25] <cbx33> jazzygm, unless you know what it is ...ignore LVM
[06:25] <cbx33> it can get messy.....is very cool....but not for the first time user
[06:26] <cbx33> imho
[06:26] <berent> ubuntu: basically there is network-script placed for it which gives the card eth0
[06:26] <hutchGuy> LjL: "/msg nickserv info john"
[06:26] <jazzygm> cbx33: np, cheers
[06:26] <berent> ubuntu : but for that the PCI/pcmcia device needs to be detected
[06:26] <hutchGuy> LjL: what does that say ?
[06:26] <ubuntu> berent im really new so i really have no idea on how to do it
[06:26] <berent> ubuntu : try doing lsmod
[06:27] <LjL> hutchGuy: the same it does for you i suppose. but someone with nickname "john" is online. type /whois john
[06:27] <ubuntu> there is a linesaying pcmcia :registering new device pcmcia0.1
[06:27] <nuked_omen> i want to play more than one sound at a time, it says i have to use esd, and direct all programs to output to esd instead of alsa
[06:27] <nuked_omen> how can i get programs like quake3 to output to esd
[06:27] <bsnider> flash 9 beta is out
[06:27] <berent> ubuntu : do u see pcmcia_core in lsmod
[06:27] <bsnider> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[06:28] <nuked_omen> flash is the flashing news
[06:28] <ubuntu> ismod is an invqlid command?
[06:28] <hutchGuy> LjL: they are 2 different johns. :)
[06:28] <LjL> hutchGuy: well, you certainly cannot blame Ubotu
[06:28] <berent> ubuntu : not ismod its lsmod l -> l for love
[06:29] <sam_k> I can anyone recommend a good CD burner?
[06:29] <sam_k> Hi*
[06:29] <samir85> Hi
[06:29] <Vapour> hello. how can I download and install a program? apt-get install <program> doesn't seem to work
[06:29] <LjL> Vapour: which program?
[06:29] <DeZusa> Guys, I'm using Win XP now, but am considering switching to Ubuntu on one of my stationary computers and my laptop. Just wondering if Ubuntu is compatible with a windows network, wireless or otherwise?
[06:29] <ubuntu> i see sorry yah there is pcmcia core: 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
[06:29] <Vapour> LjL: winamp
[06:30] <LjL> Vapour: sorry...? that's a Windows program.
[06:30] <Vapour> *gg+
[06:30] <LjL> Vapour: you might want to try "sudo apt-get install xmms" for a very similar program
[06:30] <sjust1216> can someone tell me why gnome-settings-daemon might be listed twice in my system manager
[06:30] <mrvw0169> DeZusa: what do you mean by compatible? as in accessing windows shares?
[06:30] <berent> ubuntu : good then u have the required drivers
[06:30] <slap> hi, DeZusa. I started using ubuntu this week and I'm very impressed about what the guys have done.
[06:30] <Vapour> LjL: right, lol. I'm a beginner, obviously
[06:30] <DeZusa> mrvw0169: as in working well in a network with windows computers
[06:30] <morrye> Whats a good CD burner on Ubuntu?
[06:30] <ubuntu> kb3
[06:31] <Chm0d> if i remove something in console ie...sudo rm *******  is there anyway I can get it back?
[06:31] <berent> ubuntu : what does ifconfig give you
[06:31] <erUSUL> morrye: gnomebaker??
[06:31] <LjL> Vapour, you cannot run Windows programs under Linux (except, sometimes, by using emulators and similar facilities, but that's far from optimal anyway)
[06:31] <TheGateKeeper> Vapour: if you want to use windows programs in a linux enviroment you need to use wine or vmware
[06:31] <jazzygm> is it possible to use ReiserFS, the install seems to be going ahead without ever asking me?
[06:31] <mrvw0169> Well, I have a Windows 98, 2k3, 2000, and XP computers on my network connected through a wireless router
[06:31] <snowblink> Chm0d, no
[06:31] <erUSUL> Chm0d: not an easy one try with programs like 'apt-cache search undelete'
[06:31] <mrvw0169> and I can access all shares (including printer)
[06:31] <slap> about being compatible with windows network, i'm not sure but you can use the suite of programs provided by samba in order to access your windows network
[06:32] <mrvw0169> on my windows computer...
[06:32] <ubuntu> link ncap:local loopback and inet addr 127.0.0.1 mask 255.0.0.0 and alot of other things
[06:32] <Chm0d> k
[06:32] <Vapour> k, cheers
[06:32] <Chm0d> i deleted my accident nautilus.postrm and nano.postrm
[06:32] <berent> ubuntu : type ifconfig -a and see if eth0 is present
[06:32] <slap> jassygm, try to create the partition you want being as reiserFS.
[06:33] <slap> it worked for me.
[06:33] <DeZusa> sweet... that would be the answer then. Another question though; my mom is 56 years old and a complete computer iliterate. She knows windows, barely, does that mean she can learn Ubuntu easily? including the OpenOffice suite
[06:33] <LjL> Vapour: perhaps see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[06:33] <hutchGuy> mrvw0169: get dar back them to another partition and format that with [e/x/k] ubuntu. :)
[06:33] <morrye> erUSUL: Just installed, where is it located?
[06:33] <slap> jassygm, when you create a partition, the installer asks you about the filesystem.
[06:33] <ubuntu> none only lo and sit0
[06:34] <mrvw0169> haha yeah i tried, but they're for my brothers to play games... can't do much about that
[06:34] <rm_you> does anyone know how to entirely dissemble a raid array? one of my drives got moved around physically, and now it tries to include my root filesystem in md0 (BAD!)
[06:34] <mrvw0169> My mom's 50 and doesn't do much other than internet and she didn't see the difference in using Ubuntu once I pointed out the menu at top == start menu
[06:34] <mrvw0169> and it's easier for her to find programs there since it's categorized
[06:34] <morrye> Is there a visual cd burner on linux?
[06:35] <ubuntu> morrye k3b
[06:35] <visik7> nautilus ?
[06:35] <erUSUL> morrye: apps>video and sound
[06:35] <MagicFab> hi - wondering what is the relationship between http://www.gnewsense.org/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu-libre ?
[06:35] <Vapour> LjL: I just need some player, and I didn't think about winamp being a windows program. but thanks anyway, there are other windows programs I'll need
[06:35] <LjL> !burn > morrye
[06:35] <DeZusa> great! that would be exactly the answers I needed to decide to kick windows out of my cans and get a decent OS instead ;)
[06:35] <Agrajag> Vapour: like what? I'm sure there's an alternative for every one
[06:35] <erUSUL> morrye: i use nautilus also (Places>CD/DVD Burner)
[06:36] <slap> morry, have you ever tried inserting a CD in ubuntu and using the program that is loaded automatic for burning CDs?
[06:36] <LjL> Vapour, you already have an audio player installed by default anyway, it's called Rhythmbox. you can find it under Applications / Sound / Rhythmbox
[06:36] <LjL> !mp3 > vapour
[06:36] <hutchGuy> !mkisofs
[06:36] <ubotu> mkisofs: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 508 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[06:36] <morrye> erUSUL: Yeah but then I don't know if its visual
[06:36] <hutchGuy> !mp4
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <hutchGuy> !ipod > hutchGuy
[06:36] <ubuntu> berent there is no eth0 only l0 an sit0
[06:37] <berent> ubuntu : try openinig /etc/network/interfaces file do u find iface eth0 there
[06:37] <raintheory> !m4a
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <LjL> !msg the bot
[06:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[06:37] <mrvw0169> dezusa: if ubuntu doesn't work out, give kubuntu a try - it integrates much better with windows networks than ubuntu
[06:37] <hutchGuy> !ipod > raintheory
[06:37] <hutchGuy> :)
[06:38] <LjL> hutchGuy: please, do use private messages.
[06:38] <DeZusa> what would be the main difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[06:38] <LjL> DeZusa: Ubuntu comes with Gnome, Kubuntu with KDE
[06:38] <raintheory> KDE vs GDM
[06:38] <jimdaniels> DeZusa: they have a different user interface, desktop
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> DeZusa: kubuntu uses KDE
[06:38] <Agrajag> GNOME, not GDM
[06:38] <raintheory> err GNOME
[06:38] <ubuntu> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:38] <kuja> Or KDM, not KDE :)
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> instead of GNOME
[06:39] <hutchGuy> LjL: yeah i'll.
[06:39] <DeZusa> does anyone have a couple of screen dumps to show me the difference in interface?
[06:39] <mrvw0169> www.osdir.com
[06:39] <aliendream23> hello, can anyone recommend a good prog for accessing newsgroups and retrieving files from them??
[06:39] <mrvw0169> has a lot of screenshot
[06:39] <jimdaniels> i tried to mount my drives with ntfs 3g. it didn't work out and i deleted the ntfs lines from fstab
[06:39] <jimdaniels> now the drives completly disappeard. how can i get the mback?
[06:39] <ubuntu> berent: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:39] <aliendream23> (((totally new to usenet)))
[06:39] <jpjacobs> aliendream23, thuderbird, or snownews, or slrn+metamail
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> personally i like kubuntu but that's probably blasphemy in this channel
[06:40] <hutchGuy> !kunbuntu > Dezusa && !kde > Dezusa
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kunbuntu > Dezusa && !kde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <berent> ubuntu : thats good
[06:40] <berent> ubuntu : type dhclient eth0
[06:40] <aliendream23> thank you jp!
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> jimdaniels: pastebin your fstab and fdisk -l
[06:40] <hutchGuy> how can i join 2 !commands ?
[06:40] <slap> comand1; comand2
[06:40] <slap> heheh
[06:40] <gh0st> hello, what is the command to mute, increase/decrease volume in gnome/ubuntu?( global setting)
[06:40] <LjL> hutchGuy, i don't think you can. but, really, use private messages or #ubuntu-bots for that kind of experiments! otherwise people just start playing with the bot in the channel, which is a mess
[06:41] <hutchGuy> !kubuntu > hutchGuy; !xubuntu > hutchGuy
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu > hutchGuy; !xubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <mrvw0169> gh0st: you can check in System>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[06:41] <hutchGuy> LjL: sorry, I'll use it now.
[06:42] <gh0st> mrvw0169: it's not written there
[06:42] <gh0st> mrvw0169: i need to have the exact command
[06:42] <ubuntu> at the bottom : cant creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases permission denied and cant create /var/run/dhclient.pid permission denied and drop_privileges could not set up group id :operation not permitted thats about it
[06:42] <TheCan> Hi anyone with a thinkpad dock II here? i would be interested whether it is able to charge an ultrabay2000 battery itself without the laptop on it
[06:43] <DBO> mmm that topic grows =)
[06:43] <jimdaniels> Admiral: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27344/
[06:43] <willreed03> hi
[06:46] <Admiral_Chicago> jimdaniels: you may need to give me a second
[06:48] <willreed03> anybody around?
[06:48] <kmaynard> no
[06:48] <jimdaniels> Admiral_Chicago: no need for hurry. i'm really happy that some1 helps
[06:48] <ubuntu> berent:iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:48] <Foc> :-)
[06:48] <ubuntu> berent:at the bottom : cant creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases permission denied and cant create /var/run/dhclient.pid permission denied and drop_privileges could not set up group id :operation not permitted thats about it
[06:48] <willreed03> so would anyone be willing to answer some questions and possibly help me out with a few things?
[06:48] <morrye> Hi how could I format a drive as NTFS through the terminal?
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> jimdaniels: can I PM you?
[06:48] <jimdaniels> sure
[06:48] <jimdaniels> oh i don'T have regged nick
[06:48] <DBO> morrye, with your windows disc is about the only way
[06:48] <jimdaniels> dunno if it works then
[06:48] <eXistenZ> How can I add mp3 support to K3B?
[06:48] <morrye> DBO: What do you mean?
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> jimdaniels: meet me in #ubuntu-chicago then, much less volume
[06:48] <jimdaniels> aight
[06:48] <Agrajag> morrye: linux doesn't support creating or writing to NTFS volumes without a bit of work
[06:48] <morrye> DBO: I just need to format a hard drive to a format windows can read, is there a way through the terminal?
[06:48] <DBO> morrye, ntfs is a proprietary file system, there isnt any reliable way to make a ntfs drive in linux
[06:48] <Agrajag> morrye: you can use fat32/vfat instead of ntfs
[06:48] <DBO> morrye, you can make FAT32 mounts
[06:48] <segfault_> eXistenZ, read website about restricted formats
[06:48] <Jimmey> How do I make a bootable CD from some datafiles I have?
[06:48] <DBO> morrye, you can even teach windows to read ext3
[06:48] <Foc> !multimedia
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:48] <morrye> DBO: I just need this one drive to be read, how would I format and mount a FAT 32 drive?
[06:48] <willreed03> so i am using ubuntu with KDE and firefox and in some sites that use java the java applets dont work, but in other sites the java applets work fine....in windows the sites that dont work work fine...would there be any reason for this?
[06:48] <kmaynard> !fat32
[06:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:49] <safeer> hi usman
[06:49] <DBO> moreon, you want to play with gparted
[06:49] <Agrajag> morrye: you can use mkfs.vfat on the partition to make a fat32 filesystem
[06:49] <DBO> morrye, ^^
[06:49] <jpjacobs> !fuse
[06:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:49] <safeer> hi geeks
[06:50] <Agrajag> what, !fuse just talks about NTFS? there's so much more you can do with it
[06:50] <kmaynard> Agrajag, yah...sshfs
[06:50] <kmaynard> !sshfs
[06:50] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 100 kB
[06:50] <Agrajag> there's also a pass-through crypto FS I use with it
[06:51] <morrye> Agrajag: What command do I type to do it?
[06:51] <ubuntu> berent: it says dhcp permission denied
[06:51] <Agrajag> morrye: what partition do you want to format?
[06:51] <morrye> hdb
[06:52] <Agrajag> all of hdb? or is it partitioned?
[06:52] <morrye> All of it
[06:52] <jimcooncat> In firefox, how do I select a table?
[06:52] <willreed03> so anyone know why java doesnt work in some sites but works in others?
[06:52] <watson540> !paste
[06:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:52] <Agrajag> then mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb should do the trick
[06:53] <Agrajag> or mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 if that fails
[06:53] <Agrajag> I'm not sure if an unpartitioned drive still needs that 1 at the end
[06:53] <jrib> willreed03: example?
[06:53] <LjL> Agrajag, an unpartitioned drive needs to be partitioned first ;-)
[06:53] <willreed03> www.virtualnes.com
[06:53] <willreed03> java based
[06:54] <willreed03> games dont work
[06:54] <willreed03> but if i go to another site and try to play java games they work fine
[06:54] <Agrajag> morrye: does it have a single partition on it already?
[06:54] <LjL> Agrajag: i don't think either Linux or Windows support treating entire drives as partitions, though they probably do at least for things such as USB keys
[06:54] <morrye> Agrajag: Its NTFS, also how do I mount a drive?
[06:54] <Jimmey> How can I make a bootable ISO from a set of files I have?
[06:55] <Agrajag> morrye: it's NTFS now? and you want to reformat it? Do you need the data that is on it now?
[06:55] <SuperMiguel> http://www.s-code.com/products/viewerx/webvnc.aspx. there is any way to get something like that for free??
[06:55] <morrye> Agrajag: Yeah but I have it backed up, I think the data is currupt. How can I mount the drive to check?
[06:56] <Agrajag> morrye: sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs
[06:56] <willreed03> any idea jrib?
[06:56] <ubuntu> anyone here who can help me out with dhclient?
[06:57] <jrib> willreed03: well java seems to load something fine, the game just doesn't work
[06:57] <morrye> Agrajag: that didn't mount the disk
[06:57] <bretzel> Hi there, what happening to getautomatix.com ?? I get error 403 ( forbidden )
[06:57] <willreed03> maybe just the site then huh?
[06:57] <Agrajag> morrye: did it give you an error of some sort?
[06:57] <LjL> !automatix > bretzel
[06:57] <bretzel> !
[06:57] <bretzel> duh
[06:57] <bretzel> !automatix
[06:57] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[06:57] <willreed03> one other problem i have been having lately
[06:58] <morrye> yeah its currupt, how do I refomat as FAT32, luckily I backed up all the data
[06:58] <M_A_K> I must have missed something, but where during install do you set the bootable flag on a partition when manually editing the partition table?
[06:59] <nena> ol
[06:59] <POVaddct> morrye: mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/<your_fat_partition>
[06:59] <Agrajag> you might want to check that the partition isn't screwed up first, so check that the partition exists with sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[07:00] <morrye> POVaddct: error, mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/hdb' (use -I if wanted)
[07:00] <berent> ubuntu : u got interface up
[07:00] <Jimmey> How can I make a bootable CD from a set of files I have? Or, how can I make the .iso image of these files bootable?
[07:00] <ubuntu> what do u mean berent?
[07:01] <ubuntu> at the bottom : cant creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases permission denied and cant create /var/run/dhclient.pid permission denied and drop_privileges could not set up group id :operation not permitted thats about it
[07:01] <berent> ubuntu : you wanted ur pcmcia card to be detected right for eth0
[07:01] <Toumek> allo
[07:01] <berent> ubuntu : try running as root
[07:01] <willreed03> so i have a soundblaster live 5.1 card and creative 5.1 speaker system...when i first installed ubuntu i could only get 2.1 sound...im using the ALSA guimixer and amarok to play mp3's...i can turn up the surround controls and get sound out of all my speakers but then when i use my multimedia keyboard to turn down the sound or mute it only mutes the 2.1 speakers...and i am absolutely lost as how to get it fixed....i have been trying lots of stuff and
[07:01] <willreed03> nothign seems to work...help anyone????
[07:02] <ubuntu> yeah idid now it said . eth0: error while getting interface flags:no such device
[07:02] <richee> !factoids
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about factoids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <richee> !as
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about as - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <richee> !edgy
[07:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:02] <berent> ubuntu : try joining #madwifi for this
[07:02] <LjL> !msg the bot
[07:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[07:03] <ubuntu> berent its not a wifi card just a dial up and ethernet card
[07:03] <LjL> Jimmey: mkisofs has options for making CDs bootable. i don't have a good Howto at hand, though
[07:03] <Jimmey> Ta
[07:03] <LjL> Jimmey: try http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/cd-roms.html
[07:04] <berent> ubuntu: can you do  ifconfig eth0 up
[07:04] <ubuntu> no such device
[07:04] <XVampireX> gnome keeps locking
[07:04] <XVampireX> I'm about to upgrade to edgy and gnome keeps locking
[07:05] <sioux> hi what's jack in ubuntustudio?
[07:05] <Jimmey> Thanks LjL
[07:05] <Kap> do you read me?
[07:05] <berent> ubuntu : the only thing i think is you have to reinstall the drivers for detecting the card
[07:05] <LjL> Kap: yes
[07:05] <ubuntu> how is that
[07:05] <Kap> i'm on nirc :-)
[07:06] <berent> ubuntu: do u have the model name of the card . search for its drivers .
[07:06] <XVampireX> Should I change my nickname?
[07:06] <morrye> Agrajag: That didn't format it
[07:07] <Kap> and i dont know how sudo dont ask me the password
[07:07] <XVampireX> sup?
[07:08] <Agrajag> morrye: what did format it?
[07:08] <Agrajag> morrye: what didn't format it?
[07:09] <ubuntu> xircom rem56g
[07:09] <XVampireX> Once upon a time
[07:09] <berent> google out for it
[07:10] <XVampireX> @lart everyone for being willfully ignorant
[07:10] <morrye> Agrajag: The command you gave me
[07:10] <DeZusa> alright, I don't know if anyone cares by now, but I've looked at the screenshots of both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I got the feeling that Ubuntu is the way to go. this weekend I'll be creating a new partition on my stationary computer and install Ubuntu. My laptop will use Ubuntu exclusively. Thanks for your help, dudes
[07:10] <Agrajag> morrye: which command?
[07:11] <Agrajag> the one with fdisk? That's just to check that the partition table isn't borked
[07:11] <morrye> Agrajag: Formatting as FAT32
[07:11] <berent> ubuntu : or even u may have a cd containing  drivers in it
[07:11] <Agrajag> morrye: what command did you run?
[07:11] <morrye> Agrajag: I don't know now
[07:11] <morrye> Agrajag: How do you format as FAT32?
[07:11] <berent> ubuntu : normally given with the card purchase
[07:11] <kmu> how can i tell what wireless device is inside my laptop?
[07:11] <Agrajag> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/<partition>
[07:12] <Jimmey> kmu, look at the device manager
[07:12] <Agrajag> where <partition> in your case is hdb1
[07:12] <berent> kmu: type ifconfig
[07:12] <ubuntu> oh welll idont have that card anymore ....
[07:12] <ubuntu> i guess ill jsut install 5.10 again at least 5.10 is working
[07:12] <ubuntu> kinda weird
[07:12] <ubuntu> newer version big problem
[07:13] <berent> u dont have the card anymore : huh?
[07:13] <ubuntu> i have i mean the installer
[07:13] <ubuntu> driver
[07:14] <berent> what r u running now
[07:14] <ubuntu> now im using my desktop with kubuntu 6.06 live cd... my prob is my laptop which i use more often for work
[07:15] <rindolf> Hi all.
[07:15] <Jimmey> Hey thar'
[07:15] <rindolf> How does one access the Ubuntu control center?
[07:15] <Jimmey> What control center?
[07:15] <XVampireX> rindolf: by installing it
[07:15] <krycek> in the /etc/hosts file on the loopback section where you have 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost    ...   then you have the IPADDRESS www.something.net hostnamehere   ..... on the loopback section do I need to actually state the name of the domain nd the host?  or just have the localhost.localdomain there?
[07:16] <kmu> Jimmey, thanks
[07:16] <rindolf> XVampireX: I mean from the menus.
[07:16] <kmu> berent, ifconfig doesn't tell what kind of card
[07:16] <kinema> I just tried downloading a 6.10 beta iso but torrent.ubuntu.com is saying that the torrent isn't authorized.
[07:17] <berent> kmu : its for knowing whether u have a interface up or not
[07:19] <heladodechocolat> ola
[07:19] <erUSUL> rindolf: the closest thing is the menu System>Admin>...
[07:19] <rindolf> erUSUL: OK.
[07:20] <berent> kmu : u can try device manager
[07:20] <Kap> how can i see @ what groups belongs an user?
[07:21] <eXistenZ> How can I change the default font used in gentoo?
[07:21] <unfo> eXistenZ: wrong channel
[07:21] <Agrajag> unfo: gentoo is a file manager
[07:22] <eXistenZ> err
[07:22] <eXistenZ> sorry
[07:22] <eXistenZ> ubuntu :)
[07:22] <ricanelite> Can anyone tell me how can I change my Menus Text on Firefox, Like I mean where it says File, Edit, View.???
[07:22] <erUSUL> eXistenZ: this is #ubuntu, you know ;). i'm sure people in #gentoo are very helpfull too
[07:22] <Agrajag> oh
[07:26] <eXistenZ> I don't know why I even said gentoo
[07:26] <hutchGuy> ricanelite: right-click , then customize.
[07:26] <ricanelite> Because all the other Applications I open the Text size is great but just not the Firefox for some reason
[07:26] <erUSUL> Kap: grep user /etc/groups
[07:26] <Kap> wow tnx
[07:26] <eXistenZ> Is it possible to set different font for every layout?
[07:26] <ricanelite> nothing happen
[07:26] <ricanelite> I did'nt see a option for that hutchGuy
[07:26] <hutchGuy> ricanelite: again, what are you trying to do, please clear.
[07:26] <eXistenZ> I like Arial
[07:26] <ricanelite> Okay, When you open Firefox and you know how you have File, Edit, View I guess its called the Menu Toolbar
[07:26] <gh0st> does anyone here use "keytouch"?
[07:26] <ricanelite> Well all of my other Applications the Menu are setup perfect but Firefox the Text Size seems larger for some reason
[07:26] <Kap> i find out why it don t ask me the password
[07:26] <Kap> because the user was in "sudo" group
[07:26] <Kap> trusted for default
[07:26] <Kap> so i have commented the line in /etc/groups
[07:27] <izzyb_> I'm having problems with a lexmark p3150 printer.  I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714, which indicates it works with some shading issues using the z600 driver, and it does -- almost
[07:27] <izzyb_> the black print seems to be shifted to the left about half an inch or so
[07:27] <Ademan> anyone using the new Flash Player 9?
[07:33] <izzyb_> if I print just black, it gets cut off on the left, if I print colour, the colour looks correct, but the black is shifted to the left
[07:33] <izzyb_> sadly, I haven't been able to find any info on this problem via google :(
[07:33] <Kap> man tnx a lot for all
[07:33] <Kap> i left
[07:33] <izzyb_> anyone heard of this and know what the issue is?
[07:33] <Ademan> izzyb_: my printer shifts printed images a good 1.5 inches off to one side
[07:33] <Ademan> color AND black though
[07:33] <krycek> I lost connection :( - did anyone ever say anything abpout my earlier question?  - apologize if I missed it
[07:33] <Ademan> google for "offset cups" or align cups (cups being common unix printing system)
[07:33] <kmu> any good command line dictionary tools out there?
[07:33] <erUSUL> kmu: dict ?
[07:33] <izzyb_> Ademan: thanks, but wouldn't that effect both?  I think this is an allignment issue
[07:33] <unfo> krycek: it looks like nobody answered you. just ask again.
[07:33] <Ademan> i agree, thats why the second thing i said was align, you may be able to "offset" individual colors with cups, i don't know enough about cups to rule it out
[07:33] <Ademan> i don't even know enough about cups to fix my own problem :-(
[07:33] <Ademan> lol
[07:33] <kmu> erUSUL, thanks
[07:33] <krycek> well i'm following a guide on setting up my linux ubuntu server.. and it says to run hostname and hostname -f and they should both show server.hostname.net
[07:33] <turbidostato> I'm working on a customized install CD: is there any preseed option so network is not configured at all?
[07:33] <A[D] minS> i have a problem with i run mplayer file.wmv
[07:33] <A[D] minS> Opening video decoder: [dmo]  DMO video codecs
[07:33] <A[D] minS> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: wmvdmod.dll, /usr/lib/win32/wmvdmod.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/wmvdmod.dll
[07:33] <A[D] minS> IMediaObject ERROR: 0x85de2b5  could not open DMO DLL (0x0 : 0)
[07:33] <A[D] minS> Failed to create DMO filter
[07:33] <A[D] minS> ERROR: Could not open required DirectShow codec wmvdmod.dll.
[07:33] <krycek> well on just hostname I get the hostname without the .hostname.net
[07:33] <unfo> A[D] minS: if you paste 5 lines, some people get annoyed :)
[07:33] <erUSUL> A[D] minS: do not paste here please!
[07:33] <erUSUL> !paste
[07:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:33] <A[D] minS> Ok sorry
[07:33] <A[D] minS> :D
[07:33] <erUSUL> A[D] minS: you need w32codecs
[07:33] <krycek> but get the full hostname.net on hostname -f ... is that correct?
[07:33] <turbidostato> ...or is there any other team channel better fitted for CD customization questions?
[07:33] <erUSUL> !w32codecs
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <cappe> A[D] minS: are you wine:ing??
[07:33] <A[D] minS> erUSUL: avifile-win32-plugin
[07:33] <unfo> all, I uninstalled linux-restricted-modules and now after a while my wallpaper appears in X but the taskbar and start menu do not appear.
[07:33] <unfo> any clue?
[07:33] <A[D] minS> !w32codecs
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:33] <izzyb_> Ademan: thanks, I'll have a look at the align option
[07:33] <Jhonny1009> internet is not working on Ubuntu with Ethernet & DHCP.. I have tryed network config but it doesn't work.. can anyone help?
[07:34] <cappe> Jhonny1009: try sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 after that maybe it's a question for your DHCP-server (router or ISP)
[07:35] <Jhonny1009> cappe: i'll try it
[07:35] <unfo> Jhonny1009: does it work OK in your old operating system?
[07:35] <cappe> Jhonny1009: have you added your network card in network config?
[07:35] <Jhonny1009> i've added the network
[07:35] <cappe> k
[07:35] <boink> have you done some ping tests?
[07:35] <Jhonny1009> it sees it, network works off of live cd
[07:36] <Lobo_> how can i add universe to the packages in command line ?
[07:36] <erUSUL> Lobo_: editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <boink> Lobo_: you need to edit the /etc/apt/souces.list to do that
[07:36] <Ademan> whats an *.xpt file?
[07:36] <Lobo_> ok thx
[07:36] <Jhonny1009> cappe, what do those 2 comans do?
[07:36] <erUSUL> Ademan: afaik ff extensions
[07:37] <cappe> releases the ip then tries to renew it from the dhcp Jhonny1009
[07:37] <Ademan> erUSUL: sounds about right
[07:37] <Pawliko> hi all
[07:37] <afd_> hi! I have a pppoe connection on windows (with username/passwd), how can I use it in ubuntu (edgy)?
[07:38] <turbidostato> I'm using dapper 6.06.1 anyone know why /sbin/unconfigured.sh doesn't seem to be executed upon boot?
[07:39] <Marlun> Is there an fast and easy way to empty a text file on it's content? like echo "" > file, or something.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Marlun, that shouldwork
[07:39] <Pawliko> I've installed Ubuntu after Win and Win is invisible before I had it in my Grub
[07:39] <Pawliko> how to fix it
[07:39] <Pawliko> ?/
[07:39] <afd_> edgy sucks, why no built in possibility to connect through pppoe?
[07:39] <erUSUL> !grub
[07:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:40] <erUSUL> afd_: go to #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <kmaynard> afd_, #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <kmaynard> jinx
[07:40] <erUSUL> !language > afd_
[07:40] <cappe> Marlun: touch what_file_you_wanna_recreate
[07:40] <afd_> erUSUL: kmaynard, I'm there, no help, just suckish silence :)
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko, could read up and edit the  menu.lst and add and entry forwindows
[07:40] <kmaynard> huh
[07:40] <afd_> erUSUL: I haven't sweared, just stated my opinion
[07:40] <sm> morning all
[07:41] <morrye> How do you mount a hard drive?
[07:41] <Pawliko> how to do it
[07:41] <Pawliko> ?
[07:41] <sm> my functions keys stopped working a while back (edgy), how can I repair them ?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko,  edit the  menu.lst   has an example entry for windows on hda1
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> it has an example i mean
[07:42] <afd_> root@ubuntu:~# pppoeconf --help
[07:42] <afd_> This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages.
[07:42] <afd_> nice :)
[07:42] <Pawliko> I've installed ub on my hda1 i think
[07:43] <Pawliko> or maybe i'am wrong
[07:43] <Marlun> Dr_Willis, cappe: thanks!
[07:43] <cappe> np
[07:43] <sm> and.. will I ever come up with a question this channel knows about ? :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko,  if you instaled  iton hda's mbr then you get the grub menus.. if you some hoe managered to install it elsewere - then well.. put it on hda  :)
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> sm  no one knows. ;
[07:44] <Pawliko> you said sth about this file menu.lst
[07:44] <Pawliko> maybe editing
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko,  i dont have time to tutor you on how to edit a file.. other then 'sudo gedit whatever'   read up on grub befor ya mess withthat file.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko,  its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:45] <LjL> !sm > edgy
[07:45] <Pawliko> ok,thx
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko,  read that file. its got a lotof comments
[07:45] <LjL> err
[07:45] <LjL> !edgy > sm
[07:45] <Pawliko> ok
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> grub is one of those things thats WELL worth learning all about
[07:46] <Pawliko> i think i'm first time on that channel
[07:46] <LjL> Dr_Willis: and which is also *so* boring
[07:46] <Pawliko> greetings for everyone
[07:46] <sm> LjL: I.. almost.. understand you :)
[07:46] <sm> aha, thx
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> LjL,   more boreing is for me to sit here and handhold people. ;0
[07:47] <Spec> LjL: are you claiming grub is boring, or am i misinterpreting things?
[07:47] <LjL> Spec: i'm claiming that learning the grub command line usage is something i find boring.
[07:47] <cappe> is it possible to force a reverse lookup when connecting to different irc-servers?? (maybe not a ubuntu question, maybe someone still has a clue)
[07:48] <fdv> Hi. The installer crashes on me, can't I manually set up the file system from the installation cd somehow? I found a guide in the wiki on installing using knoppix, but I'd think the necessary files would reside on the ubuntu liv / install cd
[07:48] <Spec> LjL: but it's so exciting!
[07:48] <Spec> fdv: i would suggest using the alternative cd installer
[07:49] <fdv> Spec: which is that?
[07:49] <Pawliko> i think i know where i sould edit the file but what to type
[07:49] <Pawliko> ?
[07:50] <LjL> Dr_Willis: and at any rate, i don't see why i should learn all those complicated commands when i could just keep both mouse buttons pressed at startup and have a dialog asking me whether to boot from DF0 or DH0, and with or without a startup-sequence :P
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Pawliko,   'sudo gedit whatever'
[07:50] <cappe> fdv: I sat up the partitions from the default setup-cd (if that what you ment)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> LjL,  i got uae set up on a box wherei an login straight toit ;)
[07:50] <cappe> fdv: does it say why it crashes??
[07:50] <Pawliko> ok
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> LjL, i also had a box set to boot into a full screen 'vice' session with geos
[07:50] <Pawliko> are there any girls?
[07:50] <fdv> cappe: I get a stack trace from ubiquity
[07:51] <fdv> but I don't really feel like going into it now
[07:51] <fdv> I need to get this done :)
[07:51] <Spec> !install
[07:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:51] <fdv> Spec: thanks
[07:52] <Spec> fdv: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[07:52] <fdv> ah, burning a new cd
[07:53] <fdv> then I think I'll go for the knoppix way and download the bootstrap images instead
[07:53] <Tuca___> oi
[07:53] <ww2> Hello all. I need some help here. Trying to make XGL/Beryl work. I have the latest fglrx ATI proprietary drivers (which I made sure were working fine before the XGL installation), and when I start the XGL session through GDM I see to Beryl effects at all. The first time I started XGL I saw the splash screen, but then everything froze with strange lines and I had to reboot. I did search the forums and wasn`t able to find a solution. Can someone help me?
[07:53] <Tuca___> hi people
[07:53] <Tuca___> im new at here
[07:53] <fdv> downloading a whole cd iso takes too long on this connection :p
[07:53] <ww2> to = no
[07:53] <erUSUL> ww2: you may find more help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:54] <ww2> erUSUL, ah, didnt know about that. Thanks =)
[07:54] <cappe> fdv: in the worst case it's problems with your hardware..
[07:54] <Tuca___> somebudy can talk with me?
[07:54] <andy_> hello
[07:54] <fdv> cappe: yeah, I know
[07:54] <andy_> i have a question
[07:54] <cappe> k
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[07:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:54] <erUSUL> !anybody > Tuca___
[07:54] <DaBuss> Is there a more noobish way to upgrade a 2.6.15 kernel to 2.6.18 without compiling the kernel from scratch? something like a pre-compiled kernel?
[07:54] <andy_> who can give me an link from where i can download a movie player
[07:54] <andy_> ?
[07:55] <Spec> DaBuss: compile the kernel from scratch with make-kpkg :)
[07:55] <erUSUL> DaBuss: no, afaik
[07:55] <Spec> DaBuss: it's easy ... as long as you get a good valid configuration, it's the configuring that's hard :p
[07:55] <sharms> andy: apt-get install mplayer
[07:55] <jrib> andy_: that is not how to install things on ubuntu.  Instead, you should use system > administration > synaptic
[07:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell andy_ about multimedia
[07:55] <Spec> sharms: remember the sudo
[07:55] <cappe> andy_: or if you prefer vlc : apt-get install vlc
[07:55] <andy_> i have vlc
[07:55] <Spec> cappe: ^^
[07:55] <jrib> andy_: by the way you should already have a movie player at applications > sound and video > Movie Player
[07:56] <andy_> but i can not play movies like mpeg
[07:56] <Spec> !w32codecs
[07:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <Tuca___> alguem fala portugues???
[07:56] <LjL> !pt
[07:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:56] <andy_> so where can i install movie player?
[07:57] <Tuca___> #ubuntu-br
[07:57] <jrib> Tuca___: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:57] <DaBuss> i installed the 2.6.18-2 patch, and the source, but it didnt replace my 2.6.15 kernal
[07:57] <LjL> andy_, you already have Totem and apparently VLC installed. please just follow the instructions above if you need support for formats that can't be played by default
[07:58] <turbidostato> I'll give /sbin/setup.sh a try
[07:58] <rammy> i was curious about java from the multiverse i installed java 1.5.06 jdk but the runtime  is only 1.4.2
[07:58] <rammy> i mean the jre runtime for mozilla firefox
[07:59] <ubuntu_> haj
[07:59] <cappe> andy_: are you sure it can't play a .mpg file? maybe it's your file-association with .mpg-files that doesn't start vlc? (very basic workaround)
[07:59] <[GuS] > Hi people
[07:59] <Vindstille> Hey GuS
[07:59] <[GuS] > after yesterday upgrade of proftpd to 1.3.x i cant run the service
[07:59] <brockie> i want to be a big ubuntu user
[07:59] <[GuS] > this is the debug: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/210350
[07:59] <rammy> why are there 1 jdk for program development and 1 jre for runtime for mozilla
[07:59] <[GuS] > and this is my conf: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/210351
[08:00] <brockie> anyway, Flash 9 is out for linux!
[08:00] <LjL> brockie: read the channel topic
[08:00] <brockie> there should be a page
[08:00] <brockie> but the new nvidia driver is fscked
[08:00] <erUSUL> brockie: yes. i'm using it since this afternoon works as spected...
[08:00] <brockie> msg me and i'll tell you all about it
[08:01] <brockie> erUSUL, no probs with flash 9?
[08:01] <kmaynard> tell about what? we can read /.
[08:01] <brockie> slashdot is a fascist publication
[08:01] <brockie> it is anti-ubuntu
[08:01] <LjL> brockie: and this is not the place to discuss such.
[08:01] <LjL> !offtopic > brockie
[08:02] <brockie> LjL, well , the only questions i ever have about ubuntu are better answered in debian
[08:02] <brockie> everyone knows that
[08:02] <LjL> brockie: that's not a support question, either. please take these thoughts to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <brockie> don't ever direct the bot to msg me again, thank you
[08:03] <brockie> ever
[08:03] <LjL> !ops
[08:03] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:03] <brockie> ever
[08:03] <brockie> i am not cowed by ops
[08:03] <[GuS] > no one has idea of my problem? thanks
[08:03] <Seveas> brockie, now bhav or begone please
[08:03] <brockie> and never bowed by Seveas
[08:03] <brockie> lol
[08:03] <brockie> fuck off
[08:04] <Ignatius> F-word omg! I feel so abused!
[08:05] <turbidostato> is there any specifical channel for questions regarding customized intall CDs?
[08:05] <woland_> is there a toram option for the ubuntu cd so i can eject the CD once it's booted?
[08:05] <cappe> [GuS] : what's new in the .conf file from your (hopefully) backup version?? maybe try that line-for-line till it works..
[08:05] <eXistenZ> How can I make global shortcuts (to launch terminal, or any other program)?
[08:05] <LjL> !customlivecd > turbidostato
[08:05] <[GuS] > cappe, what i think is that mysql module is not active
[08:05] <DaBuss> I am in middle of recompiling my kernel....my system shall never boot again :-(...but i havn't been able to find a way to update nUbuntu from 2.6.15 to 2.6.18 without recompiling...any ideas anyone?
[08:05] <[GuS] > but indeed is compiled in
[08:06] <turbidostato> LjL: What do you mean? channel ubuntu-customlivecd?
[08:06] <[GuS] > cappe, here, mysql modules does not appear: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/210361
[08:07] <[GuS] > but was compiled in in original Ubuntu package... and when i tryed to compile by hand
[08:07] <MetaMorfoziS> is ubuntu able to isntall it to fat32?
[08:08] <DaBuss> bbl everyone...job interveiw at CompUSA
[08:08] <rammy> can anyone answer why java jre 1.4.2 is used for mozilla firefox plugin but is 1.5.06 for the jdk
[08:08] <Juhaz> MetaMorfoziS, no
[08:09] <aoupi> eXistenZ: I use xbindkeys
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[08:09] <eXistenZ> xmodmap werks well?
[08:10] <rammy> can anyone answer why java jre 1.4.2 is used for mozilla firefox plugin but is 1.5.06 for the jdk
[08:10] <LjL> turbidostato: no, the bot should have sent you a message with a link to instructions for making custom CDs
[08:10] <LjL> !customlivecd
[08:10] <ubotu> Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[08:11] <turbidostato> LjL: Thanks for your info, I already read and tried LiveCDCustomization and InstallCDCustomization documents, but there're still some dark corners
[08:11] <matt132123> hi. does anybody know why update-manager -c -d wouldn't offer me the edgy distribution upgrade?
[08:12] <turbidostato> ...that's why I came to IRC: I think I already squeezed all the web resources can offer
[08:13] <cappe> [GuS] : have you sudo ./configure --with-modules=mod_sql:mod_sql_mysql --with-includes=/Library/MySQL/include/mysql --with-libraries=/Library/MySQL/lib/mysql ??
[08:13] <xubu> i killed xfce and when i try to turn it on, i get: http://www.wklej.org/id/8bef1db575
[08:13] <xubu> how to solwe it?
[08:13] <[GuS] > yes cappe ...
[08:13] <aoupi> xubu: how did you kill it?
[08:14] <[GuS] > indeed i built the package with dpkg-buildpackage...
[08:14] <[GuS] > and in the rules file, those options for configure, allready there
[08:14] <xubu> aoupi by xkill
[08:14] <[GuS] > if this was working before the version 1.3.. why not now after upgrade?
[08:14] <kismet_> how do I probe my Network Card's Info from the console? (Like Make, Mfg, Version, etc)
[08:14] <[GuS] > so i think is not my faulr.
[08:15] <[GuS] > fault*
[08:15] <erUSUL> kismet_: lspci, lshw
[08:16] <Ignatius> wooh, firefox broke \o/
[08:16] <Ignatius> reinstalled, still doesn't load pages. doesn't even give me error.
[08:16] <ciplogic> How do I say to reconfigure the xserver-xorg package?
[08:16] <aoupi> xubu: I don't know how to get it back without restarting gdm, soo save everything you have open and run: /etc/init.d/gdm restart in a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1)
[08:16] <cappe> i found a site that maybe could help you [GuS]  .. have a look at http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/doc/contrib/ProFTPD-mini-HOWTO-SQL.html
[08:16] <Ignatius> sick, twisted and evil.
[08:16] <ciplogic> using apt&co command line utils
[08:16] <ciplogic> to regenerate the xorg.conf
[08:16] <POVaddct> strace -eopen netstat --inet -na
[08:16] <POVaddct> oops, wrong window
[08:17] <[GuS] > thanks cappe , but i was there :)
[08:17] <fnf> ciplogic: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <ciplogic> fnf: thanks
[08:20] <cappe> [GuS] : then I have no clue, usally when I use especially synaptic it configues and compiles everything working from scratch.. =) maybe an email to the programming people behind proftpd would help you if it fails in the program..
[08:20] <matt132123> when i run "update-manager -c -d", it tells me system is up to date, but i'm expecting it to offer me the edgy distribution upgrade. anyone got any tips?
[08:20] <[GuS] > yes cappe i ask the same thing in proftpd channel... and in VHCS (that is the apps for hosting i use, that uses mysql for proftpd)
[08:20] <[GuS] > but all this was working... so i weird
[08:21] <[GuS] > thankls anyway.. i will try to handle myseltf...
[08:21] <cappe> k gl
[08:21] <Demmbatz> hi
[08:21] <turbidostato> Good news: while /sbin/unconfigured.sh doesn't work, /sbin/setup.sh does work.  There's still the problem with the network config.
[08:21] <Demmbatz> ist das ein Deutschsprachiger oder englischer channel?
[08:22] <aoupi> Demmbatz: english
[08:22] <aulalinux> quien eres
[08:22] <Demmbatz> thx
[08:22] <fnf> matt132123: it shouldn't as Edgy is not officially out yet, I've heard that changing all the stuff in sources.list from dapper to edgy then run a dist-upgrade will do but it's not recomended.
[08:22] <aula1212> hola
[08:22] <Demmbatz> hi
[08:22] <rammy> can anyone answer why java jre 1.4.2 is used for mozilla firefox plugin but is 1.5.06 for the jdk
[08:22] <aulalinux> ya nos queda poco para irnos
[08:23] <aula> soy ubunta
[08:23] <jarjarw> donde est jaimito
[08:23] <aula1212> a ver cuando Juan carlos se pira
[08:23] <aulalinux> perdido en el bosque
[08:23] <jarjarw> a dnde se va a pirar
[08:23] <Demmbatz> i need help (newbie): i want to copy some files from a MAC to my Ubuntu Linux via SMB .. how i can make this?
[08:23] <aulalinux> a su casa
[08:23] <aoupi> !spanish
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Demmbatz> ok
[08:23] <aulalinux> yes
[08:24] <jarjarw> sorry, we do not know anything about english
[08:24] <aula_> hola por fin me he conectado
[08:24] <aulalinux> que dice, nio en sspanish
[08:24] <aoupi> jarjarw: #ubuntu-es is a spanish channel
[08:24] <aula1212> quiero cenar
[08:24] <azucena> ola
[08:24] <aulalinux> enhorabuena
[08:24] <aula123> hola
[08:24] <jarjarw> hola azucena
[08:24] <aulalinux> yo tambientengo hambre
[08:24] <aula_> yo tambin tengo hambre
[08:24] <aula> haber si lo encuentro
[08:24] <aula123> tambien toy dentro
[08:24] <jarjarw> que vais a cenar
[08:24] <Demmbatz> cu
[08:24] <aula123> kien tiene hambre?
[08:25] <aula_> lo malo es que no se que hacer de cenar
[08:25] <aoupi> solamente ingles in this channel :)
[08:25] <francis> hoooollla
[08:25] <jarjarw> quien no
[08:25] <jarjarw> why?
[08:25] <aulalinux> que dice nio spanish the best
[08:25] <Unimatrix9> are there ubuntu posters?
[08:25] <aula1212> yo ceno crema de calabaza
[08:25] <cappe> Usted mente hara su pregunta?
[08:25] <aula_> a alguien se le ocurre algo rpido de preparar
[08:25] <jarjarw> cmorr
[08:25] <aula> huevos fritos
[08:25] <francis> con patatas
[08:25] <aulalinux> salchichas
[08:25] <jarjarw> con cebollita frita
[08:25] <aula_> me va a subir el colesterol
[08:25] <Unimatrix9> coma sta?
[08:25] <francis> y bacon
[08:26] <aulalinux> ya lo tengo alto
[08:26] <jarjarw> por un da...
[08:26] <aula_> un dia detras de otro
[08:26] <aula123> un filetito con patatas ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:26] <aula_> eso no es rapido
[08:26] <aula> es verdad
[08:26] <aula_> y ensucia mucho
[08:26] <aulalinux> ajum es mejor de hablar de comida
[08:26] <Unimatrix9> hablo el englishe
[08:26] <spook[] > hey, i just deleted a folder in ubuntu (dapper) using the GNOME desktop and it doesn't seem that i've gotten my disk space back
[08:26] <jarjarw> un sobre de sopa
[08:26] <SV452> hay all
[08:26] <spook[] > how can i fix this?
[08:26] <Unimatrix9> what?
[08:26] <aula_> no te creas a lo mejor tengo algn sobre de sopa
[08:26] <aulalinux> qe pesao eres con inglish
[08:27] <lula> ese soy yo
[08:27] <aulalinux> no sabemos inglish
[08:27] <jarjarw> o una frutita y un yogur
[08:27] <spook[] > wtf...
[08:27] <cappe> spook[] : have you empty the trashcan?
[08:27] <spook[] > cappe: yes
[08:27] <aula_> y ligerito pa la cama
[08:27] <izzyb_> spook[] : try sync
[08:27] <SV452> who can help me with an evolution and exchange question?
[08:27] <jarjarw> que maana hay que madrugar
[08:27] <matt132123> hi fnf, i know what you mean, but when i did it a couple of weeks ago it offered the upgrade and installed it all. edgy didn't work out for me for a couple of reasons, but the bugs have been fixed now so i want to try again. the  ubuntu wiki just says to run gksu "update-manager -c -d"  to get the beta and that's it, and indeed that's what i did last time and it worked
[08:27] <izzyb_> spook[] : what dir did you delete?
[08:27] <aulalinux> qyue maana hay que madrugar
[08:27] <lula> jo no me entero de nada
[08:27] <aula123> ya no venimos hasta el lunes
[08:27] <aula123> asi que hoy fiesta
[08:27] <aula_> yo maana no tengo que madrugar mucho
[08:27] <dougsko> cappe: cp /dev/null to your ~/.trash
[08:27] <lula> te importa???
[08:27] <spook[] > izzyb_: a music directory.  700 megs of oggs
[08:27] <aula> aqui solamente espaol
[08:27] <aoupi> El canal espaol del ubuntu es # ubuntu-ubuntu-es
[08:28] <jarjarw> fiesta? y el trabajito?
[08:28] <morrye> How can I format a disk as NTFS?
[08:28] <aulalinux> eso espaol
[08:28] <aoupi> El canal espaol del ubuntu es #ubuntu-es
[08:28] <dougsko> cappe: i _think_ its ~/.trash, but if not, its soemthing like that
[08:28] <aula1212> un chorizo de la serrania de Ronda con mucho colesterol y luego a correr
[08:28] <aulalinux> de todo un poco
[08:28] <spook[] > ~/.trash is empty
[08:28] <aulalinux> que bueno un chorizito
[08:28] <jarjarw> bueno, ahora en serio, vamos a hablar de guadalinex, no?
[08:28] <aula_> por lo menos hay que correr hasta Ronda pa quemar el chorizo
[08:29] <aulalinux> no
[08:29] <aula123> no hay que firmar partes
[08:29] <jarjarw> me voy a chivar
[08:29] <aula> hoy hamburguesa
[08:29] <lula> no hasta barbate
[08:29] <aulalinux> tambien tambien
[08:29] <aula123> si con mahonesa
[08:29] <izzyb_> spook[] : if sync doesn't work, I'm not sure
[08:29] <aulalinux> nia de correr no hija que cansa
[08:29] <aula_> y no te quiero contar las pesadillas que tienes con las cenas tan pesadas, nada me quedo con la sopita
[08:29] <lula> las firmas son para falsificar cheques..
[08:29] <[GuS] > cappe, i've fixed! adding SQLBackend mysql  to proftpd.conf :F
[08:29] <lula> cuidado
[08:29] <spook[] > izzyb_: i just did sync, checking disk usage now
[08:29] <[GuS] > :D
[08:29] <aoupi> no comprendo nada, porque todos hablado espanol?
[08:29] <aula123> si el que firma paga
[08:29] <aula> y quechut
[08:29] <aulalinux> cheque en blanco
[08:29] <aulalinux> con unos cuantos millones de euros
[08:30] <Jupp3> Hi
[08:30] <jarjarw> espaol, espaol
[08:30] <aulalinux> porque somos espaoles hijo mio
[08:30] <lula> gibraltar ingles..
[08:30] <izzyb_> spook[] : I had a problem with the /var/log that was caused by sysklog needing to be restarted, but that's not likely the problem here
[08:30] <jarjarw> tambin podemos usar el llanito
[08:30] <kmu> how do i switch which group i'm currently associated with
[08:30] <aulalinux> gibraltar espaol
[08:30] <SV452> anyhow i would like to know how can i connect to out exchange mail server with evolution instead of using the webmail(OWA) like https://webmail.domain/exchange
[08:30] <len> hi, does any1 know a good HTML developer program for Linux?
[08:30] <aula123> no perdona
[08:30] <cappe> [GuS] : congratz :)
[08:30] <aula123> espaol
[08:30] <lula> po va a ser que no..
[08:30] <aula1212> estamos en frente de africa y no sabemos ingles
[08:30] <spook[] > i swear this channel was english like two hours ago, wtf....
[08:30] <izzyb_> maybe try closing your player and see if it helps
[08:30] <aoupi> spook[] : yes....
[08:30] <lula> preguntadle a bossano
[08:30] <aula> ingles
[08:30] <matt132123> len, nvu is a basic one
[08:31] <lula> en gibraltar spanglish
[08:31] <spook[] > izzyb_: said player hasn't been open for weeks
[08:31] <aula123> jajajajajjajajaja
[08:31] <len> matt132123: can I also use jps tag in it?
[08:31] <len> jsp*
[08:31] <aula123> que graciosilla
[08:31] <aula> maana
[08:31] <cappe> Hola, qu usted est insinuando en espaol?
[08:32] <aulalinux> bueno.... ya nos vamos....
[08:32] <aulalinux> nada
[08:32] <jarjarw> insinuando, no, afirmando
[08:32] <izzyb_> spook[] : is this a mounted partition or just a folder on a partitoin?
[08:32] <aulalinux> que quiere que insune
[08:32] <Agrajag> !es
[08:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:32] <matt132123> can't say i've ever tried it. it lets you edit the source code though. i always think it's better to code by hand anyway.
[08:32] <jazzygm> is xemacs installed as default, if not, how do I get it?
[08:32] <morrye> How can I format a disk as NTFS?
[08:32] <aulalinux> no necesitamos ayuda
[08:32] <spook[] > izzyb_: it's a directory on a parition
[08:32] <jarjarw> pero si solo es un poquito de cachondeito, hombre, no te enfades
[08:32] <lula> hablo espaol donde kiero y cuando kiero
[08:32] <izzyb_> spook[] : you could try seeing if anything is using the directory using fuser
[08:32] <spook[] > izzyb_: i took the "tol noob" route and didnt partition anything on this install
[08:32] <spook[] > fuser?
[08:33] <Agrajag> "kiero"?
[08:33] <spook[] > hmm
[08:33] <Agrajag> even I know that's wrong
[08:33] <lula> capitan spook la nave se ha desintegrado
[08:33] <izzyb_> yeah, it tells you what processes are using files/folders/partitoins
[08:33] <matt132123> NTFS support isn't great in linux. write support only got added recently, it's best not to use it
[08:33] <izzyb_> man fuser
[08:33] <jmitchj> I'm trying to resetup ndiswrapper and am getting this message...couldn't copy /...../Desktop/bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.....any idea how I can fix this?
[08:33] <spook[] > yeah, there right now
[08:33] <Stormx2> Uhg, does anyone have suggestions on how I can make a GTK+ dialog?
[08:33] <aulalinux> vamo ver un poquito de por favor eh
[08:33] <lula> ingles..no espaol..
[08:33] <aulalinux> despacito
[08:33] <aulalinux> que va mu rapido to
[08:33] <lula> y con buena letra
[08:34] <javaJake> Stormx2: check out zenity
[08:34] <jazzygm> is xemacs installed as default, if not, how do I get it?
[08:34] <Stormx2> javaJake: I have
[08:34] <len> matt132123: I'm very noob @ html design ... but I got this university 'paper' to do and it needs to be web :(
[08:34] <Stormx2> javaJake: Its not really cutitng the job ;)
[08:34] <jarjarw> es que los guirris estos solo piensan en lo serio...
[08:34] <Agrajag> jazzygm: sudo apt-get install xemacs should do it
[08:34] <javaJake> ah
[08:34] <lula> esto es serio..
[08:34] <justmike> Hi everyone -- newbie to Ubuntu here.
[08:34] <jarjarw> sure?
[08:34] <lula> dont sure
[08:34] <javaJake> Stormx2: are you sure
[08:34] <jarjarw> about?
[08:34] <aula> jaimito se va a rusia
[08:34] <lula> yes
[08:35] <Stormx2> javaJake: I'm making something of a shoutcast frontend, I need a few buttons basicly...
[08:35] <javaJake> Stormx2: what are you trying to do?
[08:35] <lula> y con el frio no...
[08:35] <javaJake> Stormx2: Oh, OK....
[08:35] <cappe> lol its halarious with all those nonsence spanish sentences all the time :P
[08:35] <morrye> How can I format a disk as NTFS?
[08:35] <Stormx2> justmike: Ask a question if you want help :)
[08:35] <jmitchj> javajake: Hey man...still trying to get my broadcom wirless connection setup....
[08:35] <jazzygm> Agrajag >> "couldnt find package xemacs"
[08:35] <POVaddct> cappe: just line noise
[08:35] <matt132123> len, if you just want a basic page you can use nvu, or even design it in openoffice.org writer and save as html. what do you need the jsp for?
[08:35] <aula> y yo me voy a mi casa
[08:35] <Agrajag> morrye: as we said before, you have to do that in windows
[08:35] <Agrajag> jazzygm: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[08:36] <jazzygm> I wouldn't know!
[08:36] <aulalinux> yo tambien me voy, aqui nadie se queda
[08:36] <aulalinux> creo yo
[08:36] <Agrajag> !repos
[08:36] <jmitchj> javajake: I'm trying to resetup ndiswrapper and am getting this message...couldn't copy /...../Desktop/bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.....any idea how I can fix this?
[08:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:36] <len> make dynamic pages with database access
[08:36] <javaJake> jmitchj: really?
[08:36] <lula> hasta luego lucas..
[08:36] <morrye> Agrajag: When I run the windows setup it has no option to format as NTFS
[08:36] <aula123> adios
[08:36] <javaJake> jmitchj: sudo
[08:36] <jarjarw> ni el gato
[08:36] <Agrajag> morrye: no option?
[08:36] <javaJake> jmitchj: are you using sudo?
[08:36] <len> matt132123:  make dynamic pages with database access
[08:36] <Agrajag> does it format it as fat32?
[08:36] <javaJake> jmitchj: sounds like a permissions issue
[08:36] <aulalinux> sudo mucho
[08:36] <Agrajag> windows uses ntfs by default, unless you're installing windows 98 or something
[08:36] <justmike> I am trying to set up SSH port forwarding  -- is there any place with instructions on setting this up?
[08:37] <matt132123> len, do you know how to use jsp?
[08:37] <morrye> Agrajag: It says create a new partition, then once its created it says the partition can't have windows installed on it
[08:37] <POVaddct> justmike: local or remote forwarding?
[08:37] <javaJake> aulalinux: is that spanish?
[08:37] <morrye> Agrajag: It doesn't format as anything
[08:37] <zOrK> I am having some troubles with perl locales, how can I configure it ?
[08:37] <len> yes... I dont know how to make a beauty page lol
[08:37] <kmaynard> justmike, you could prolly google it as quick as i could, but i'll look
[08:37] <aula> esta lloviendo  bueno para las papas
[08:37] <jarjarw> hay que estar aburrido
[08:37] <zOrK> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:37] <javaJake> aulalinux: in spanish "sudo mucho" means I sweat much. :D
[08:37] <aulalinux> yes
[08:37] <Seveas> !es
[08:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:37] <zOrK> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:37] <len> well, I think I can use nuv to make the design then insert the jsp after
[08:37] <lula> aki nos divertimos mas...
[08:37] <Seveas> lula, english only here
[08:37] <Stormx2> len: Theres a good WYSIWYG editor for *nix but I forget its name. Also, try bluefish (text editor with good highlighting for html)
[08:37] <javaJake> zOrK: Did you update from Dapper to Edgy?
[08:37] <aula123> y os mareamos,jajajajajajaj
[08:38] <Seveas> Stormx2, nvu?
[08:38] <lula> what??
[08:38] <shuan> anyone know why i get this message
[08:38] <shuan> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:38] <shuan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:38] <javaJake> zOrK: If so, I recommend updating the locales package.
[08:38] <jazzygm> ok so apparently I need to edit the sources.list file, but emacs isnt working either, what editor does ubuntu have by default?
[08:38] <Stormx2> Seveas; Thats the one.
[08:38] <matt132123> yeah, bluefish is another one
[08:38] <Stormx2> shuan: You're not using sudo
[08:38] <aula> hasta luego lucas
[08:38] <javaJake> shuan: use sudo at the beginning of that command
[08:38] <Stormx2> shuan: And don't paste.
[08:38] <kmaynard> justmike, start here  http://www.gb.nrao.edu/pubcomputing/tunnel-howto.shtml
[08:38] <javaJake> shuan: !paste
[08:38] <lula> paste de leche
[08:38] <javaJake> Oh, rats, robot isn't working today
[08:38] <shuan> if i dont paste then do u want me to type a long thing?
[08:38] <len> Stormx2: do u know any editor that looks like Dreamweaver?
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> shuan: you got adept open when trying to use apt-get?
[08:38] <Stormx2> len: nvu is your best bet.
[08:38] <javaJake> shuan: No, use pastebin.com
[08:38] <justmike> thx --i'm checking it out...
[08:39] <morrye> Agrajag: So is there no way of formatting as NTFS?
[08:39] <aulalinux> lulaaaaa
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> shuan: or use apt-get without sudo?
[08:39] <Agrajag> morrye: not in linux, no
[08:39] <matt132123> len, do like you said, it's probably easier to insert the jsp afterwards. html is easy though so you should be able to find your way around it fine
[08:39] <len> Stormx2: kk.. I'll make a layout on nvu after I'll insert JSP tags in the HTML
[08:39] <Seveas> somuch for all the clones
[08:39] <Agrajag> ntfs is a closed format
[08:39] <Stormx2> Bots, seveas?
[08:39] <javaJake> morrye: Delete the NTFS partition
[08:39] <dougsko> wow, yeah that spanish was annoying
[08:39] <Seveas> Stormx2, no idea, but 6 connections from one host...
[08:40] <javaJake> morrye: That, in effect, deletes it. The next installer will see it as a clean spot
[08:40] <len> kk, matt132123, ty for the help I'm already dling nvu
[08:40] <porkpie> Hi guy's I have managed to install ubuntu-server on my Dell PE 1950 ...  I what to install ssh on the server now,  I have used the command sudo apt-install ssh it prompts me for a password but I do not not the password
[08:40] <javaJake> dougsko: Not in Opera. :)
[08:40] <Agrajag> morrye: you said the data on the drive was corrupted? are you sure the drive isn't flat-out broken?
[08:40] <javaJake> porkpie: then you are out of luck
[08:40] <morrye> javaJake: When I get to windows setup it says it isn't NTFS but when viewing the disk in linux it says it is
[08:40] <cappe> porkpie: same password as you have to your user
[08:40] <javaJake> porkpie: wait...
[08:40] <morrye> Agrajag: I don't think so
[08:40] <Stormx2> porkpie: root password... I've never installed ubuntu server but you should have entered it in the setup?
[08:40] <jmitchj> javajake: man, this is frustrating...almost makes a guy want to stick to windows!!
[08:40] <javaJake> cappe: Was just going to say that
[08:40] <raintheory> !nicotine
[08:40] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[08:40] <cappe> sry m8 :)
[08:40] <morrye> Agrajag: I dare not try format the drive with linux on incase the same thing happens
[08:41] <len> does NVU has any preview of page??? because I'm using Eclipse and it doesnt have any preview I have to open on Firefox and see how it's looking
[08:41] <javaJake> jmitchj: Gotta run, but e-mail me at fun2program8[ A-T ] yupeeYAHOO.c-o-m
[08:41] <javaJake> :D
[08:41] <Stormx2> raintheory: You should look into Nicotine+, basicly it got developed by someone else after dev stopped.
[08:41] <porkpie> Stormx2:It only asked me for a userid and password .. no root password was prompted for
[08:41] <matt132123> we
[08:41] <javaJake> jmitchj: do you see the e-mail through all that?
[08:41] <Stormx2> len: nvu is what-you-see-is-what-you-get. No need for previews...
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> len: you a java person?
[08:42] <javaJake> TheGateKeeper: I am
[08:42] <jazzygm> I'm using gedit to edit the sources.list file so I can install xemacs, but it says I dont have permission to save!
[08:42] <javaJake> If that helps...
[08:42] <len> TheGateKeeper: I try... xD
[08:42] <Stormx2> porkpie: That password is the root pass, you should look into the use of sudo in ubuntu
[08:42] <Stormx2> rootsudo > porkpie
[08:42] <len> not very good, cuz I'm still learning
[08:42] <porkpie> stormx: I used this process for install.  PLease look at the bottom post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226114&page=2
[08:42] <jesper> 4
[08:42] <matt132123> well, beigh WYWIWYG, it resembles how it should look in the browser, but from what i can remember it has a button that open firefox with the page loaded
[08:42] <javaJake> jazzygm: run "sudo gedit" to run it in root
[08:42] <len> Stormx2: cant w8 to see this nvu, dl almost finished
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> javaJake: I'll pm you if you don't mind
[08:42] <javaJake> TheGateKeeper: No problem
[08:42] <jmitchj> javajake: not really
[08:42] <Stormx2> len: You are using apt-get right?
[08:42] <javaJake> jmitchj: OK
[08:42] <moonlite> how do i set a shell variable so that it is used in my x session and not just my shell
[08:43] <javaJake> jmitchj: Can I PM you?
[08:43] <len> Stormx2: yes
[08:43] <jmitchj> sure
[08:43] <moonlite> specifically i want to set MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH
[08:43] <javaJake> jmitchj: Great
[08:43] <Erwin> Does Ubuntu (now) support installation on an existing partition *without* requiring a re-fsck of the partition? (I couldn't get that work in earlier versions)
[08:43] <izzyb_> morrye: http://man.linux-ntfs.org/mkntfs.8.html
[08:43] <dv5000> !release > dv5000
[08:43] <Stormx2> dv5000: /msg ubotu whatever
[08:43] <izzyb_> morrye: I've never used it, but I think it's what you are looking for
[08:43] <javaJake> Erwin: Yes
[08:44] <justmike> I probably should clarify a bit here ... don't I need to set up a tunnel for each port I want to forward?  And I'm not sharp on the Ubuntu command line (live CD -- windows user)
[08:44] <javaJake> Erwin: However, it isn't recommended
[08:44] <jmitchj> javajake: is that PM not working?
[08:44] <izzyb_> morrye: linux-ntfs.org is the place to look for info on ntfs in linux
[08:44] <jazzygm> javaJake >> "sudo apt-get install xemacs" still doesnt work after removing the comment tags from the sources.list
[08:44] <dv5000> Stormx2: thats possible too..
[08:44] <matt132123> guys, according to the ubuntu wiki, the -d flag for update-manager is supposed to make it consider pre-release software, i.e. Edgy, so why won't it do it?
[08:44] <Erwin> javaJake: Well, I have an existing reiserfs system with Debian & all my data, so the easiest upgrade path seems to be to move all that to /old and let Ubuntu install.
[08:44] <morrye> izzyb_: Yes this looks helpful thanks
[08:44] <Stormx2> dv5000: Just to save on channel clutter :)
[08:44] <porkpie> Stormx: hmm! sudo apt-install ssh command not found ????
[08:45] <Vegeta^> I want to install plugins for Azureus, but it can't be don't auto, how do I install them manually?
[08:45] <aoupi> porkpie: apt-get install blabalbla
[08:45] <Stormx2> porkpie: sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:45] <der0b> porkpie: apt-get install
[08:45] <Erwin> javaJake: But with 5.x (? dunno what version, it as perhaps 6 months ago) it seemed like it was impossible to continue if I did just that, it insisted on the partition manager or whatever re-fscking that partition.
[08:45] <Stormx2> everyone else repeat it tooo!
[08:45] <der0b> lol
[08:45] <ericz> isn't it openssh something.. not "ssh"
[08:45] <der0b> openssh-server??
[08:45] <dv5000> Stormx2: *grin* yeah one line is gonna be a huge channel clutter 
[08:45] <aoupi> der0b: ssh installs both client and server I think
[08:46] <POVaddct> der0b: yes, openssh-server
[08:46] <aoupi> der0b: from apt-cache search: ssh - Secure shell client and server (transitional package)
[08:46] <javaJake> Erwin: Strange... I've done it before
[08:46] <porkpie> Stormx:fuck it's not seeing the cdrom
[08:46] <Erwin> javaJake: That was with the ordinary CD BTW -- I've now been told there's an "altinstall" CD with more options which I'm going to try
[08:46] <dougsko> porkpie: you can also do a apt-cache search ssh, to see all the packages that have "ss" in their names
[08:46] <SeanTater> I need to encode a bunch of video into mpeg2, but I need to see how fast I can do it.. (I need to see if I can encode in real-time), is there an easy way (other than rule-of-thumb) to check this?
[08:46] <javaJake> Erwin: Let this be a lesson to you ;) Always put your /home folder on a new partition. I don't know why this isn't the Ubuntu default
[08:47] <LjL> !language > porkpie
[08:47] <javaJake> Erwin: With the standard I was able too... strange
[08:47] <porkpie> sorry
[08:47] <LjL> it's ok
[08:47] <Erwin> javaJake: How long was that ago though? Maybe that's a bug that got fixed at some point. I vaguely recall searching for it and seeing some mailing list posts saying it was not doable.
[08:47] <javaJake> With 6.06
[08:48] <nomisery> if i do strg alt f1 i only see graphical garbage instead of the console
[08:48] <nomisery> any idea why?
[08:48] <marshall> sup guys
[08:48] <jazzygm> "sudo apt-get install xemacs" still gives "couldnt find package xemacs"
[08:48] <javaJake> Erwin: It was the very first 6.06 CD
[08:48] <javaJake> jmitchj: is PM working?
[08:48] <XxTwitchxX> Whenever I use a webapplet with java, it always freezes like, 10 minutes into it, does anyone know how to fix?
[08:48] <javaJake> marshall: Lots
[08:48] <Agrajag> jazzygm: it's xemacs21
[08:49] <Erwin> javaJake: OK, it was several months ago, so it might have been 5.x.
[08:49] <javaJake> Yea...
[08:49] <Agrajag> jazzygm: apt-cache search will allow you to search the package list for a string
[08:49] <marshall> JavaDeveloper, like what?
[08:49] <LjL> !packages
[08:49] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[08:50] <XxTwitchxX> Whenever I use a webapplet with java, it always freezes like, 10 minutes into it, does anyone know how to fix?
[08:50] <jazzygm> it said xemacs21 is not available but is reffered to!
[08:50] <marshall> javaJake, like what
[08:50] <ExilE> i'm a noob please help me I'm a windows user looking to switch to linux, does ubuntu run at 64bit if you have an amd 64 or does it run 32 bit
[08:50] <porkpie> guy's what is the dev name for the cdrom ...I need to mount
[08:50] <jmitchj> javajake: It is working
[08:50] <marshall> sup seadoo18?!?!
[08:50] <Agrajag> ExilE: it runs 64-bit if you install the 64-bit version
[08:50] <seadoo18> i dunno man
[08:50] <javaJake> jmitchj: OK
[08:50] <marshall> seadoo18, as in whats up
[08:50] <seadoo18> ok people
[08:50] <cappe> javaJake: are you using Eclipse as a IDE?
[08:50] <javaJake> marshall: Oh... anything here in this wrong
[08:50] <javaJake> :)
[08:50] <seadoo18> my question is this
[08:50] <javaJake> cappe: Yes
[08:51] <ExilE> where do you get 64 bit version from theres nothing i can find on the site
[08:51] <javaJake> seadoo18: Go for it
[08:51] <aoupi> porkpie: /dev/hdc or /dev/cdrom
[08:51] <seadoo18> i have an IBM thinkpad laptop
[08:51] <javaJake> ExilE: Try google
[08:51] <seadoo18> with an integrated microphone
[08:51] <seadoo18> ja?
[08:51] <ExilE> thanks
[08:51] <seadoo18> the problem is my mic doesn't work at all
[08:51] <Agrajag> ExilE: the same place you get the other versions
[08:51] <cappe> javaJake: do you know why I can't run my programs?? the first one is a simple hello world and I try to run it with java and also javac but none will work??
[08:51] <javaJake> seadoo18: OK
[08:51] <lempa> do we have any peapel from sweden in the channel? plise msg me
[08:51] <seadoo18> what i mainly want it for is Ekiga
[08:51] <cappe> run the programs from eclipse i.e
[08:51] <LjL> !se > lempa
[08:51] <aoupi> lempa: I would but I can't msg, I'm not regged :)
[08:51] <Agrajag> ExilE: http://tamago.cs.ucr.edu/ubuntu/releases/dapper/
[08:51] <XxTwitchxX> javaJake, When I run a java webapplet, it freezes about 10 minutes in, do you know how to fix?
[08:51] <Agrajag> 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[08:51] <aoupi> !se > aoupi
[08:52] <lempa> !se
[08:52] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:52] <LjL> !msg the bot
[08:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[08:52] <ExilE> thanks a lot i found it
[08:52] <seadoo18> dude
[08:52] <seadoo18> ?
[08:52] <javaJake> XxTwitchxX: No... you should goto the Eclipse Newsgroups for Eclipse support
[08:52] <seadoo18> do you know what i could use to diagnose the problem at least?
[08:52] <marshall> can somebody please help get his ThinkPad integrated mic working?
[08:53] <seadoo18> yeah listen to marshall
[08:53] <javaJake> cappe: Be sure that you have java installed.
[08:53] <seadoo18> and me
[08:53] <marshall> can somebody please help get seadoo18s ThinkPad integrated mic working?
[08:53] <XxTwitchxX> javaJake, no, im not develeping, lol im playing runescape but it freezes after 10 minutes :P
[08:53] <porkpie> OK ..this is going to be a silly question how do I bring up an interface under ubuntu ...
[08:53] <porkpie> I normally use FreeBSD
[08:53] <seadoo18> lol
[08:53] <marshall> porkpie, are you in the terminal?
[08:53] <seadoo18> please, answer me JavaJake
[08:53] <javaJake> XxTwitchxX: Oh, I see
[08:53] <javaJake> seadoo18: Hey... sorry...
[08:53] <LjL> porkpie: try "ifup ethwhatever"
[08:53] <marshall> lol
[08:54] <javaJake> seadoo18: Put my name at the beginning of your IM to catch me
[08:54] <seadoo18> ok
[08:54] <seadoo18> so what about the thinkpad mic
[08:54] <ww2> killkoy, ok... it seems that without the "beryl-xgl" command first, nothing works.
[08:54] <marshall> porkpie, if you have gnome, type /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:54] <POVaddct> porkpie: the config is in /etc/network/interfaces    (man 5 interfaces)
[08:54] <seadoo18> marshall: he wants a network interface
[08:54] <javaJake> seadoo18: Look in your Device Manager, copy the model name, or id, and search around. Give me the name of the mic, and I might find something
[08:54] <seadoo18> alright
[08:54] <gjerde> hello
[08:55] <marshall> seadoo18, to do that just type the first few letters of his name and press tab, that will complete his name
[08:55] <POVaddct> porkpie: you can also directly use ifconfig to set up an interface with any ip adress (not the one in the config)
[08:55] <marshall> seadoo18, oh
[08:55] <SeanTater> How do I benchmark to see how fast I can encode an average avi into mpeg?
[08:55] <seadoo18> lol
[08:55] <porkpie> POVaddct:thats what I want to do ..
[08:55] <marshall> porkpie, yeah ifconfig is the way to go
[08:56] <porkpie> POVaddct:do you have the syntax
[08:56] <aoupi> SeanTater: encode one and time it?
[08:56] <marshall> porkpie, use iwconfig with wireless interfaces
[08:56] <bart_> is there a stable version of ie7 for linux yet?
[08:56] <Agrajag> what
[08:56] <LjL> bart_: no, and that's very unlikely to happen.
[08:56] <POVaddct> porkpie: ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0   (eth0 is the first ethernet interface)
[08:56] <XxTwitchxX> javaJake, so do you know any fixes?
[08:56] <SeanTater> aoupi: I'll see if I can find anything to de-encode
[08:57] <ExilE> bart_: ie must die firefox is way better
[08:57] <cappe> bart_: try wine it :) but why in the world would you wanna surf with such a untrustable webbrowser??
[08:57] <seadoo18> ExilE - yes you are right
[08:57] <POVaddct> porkpie: if you want dhcp instead, you would do: dhclient3 eth0
[08:57] <seadoo18> ie is pure shit
[08:57] <LjL> !language
[08:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:57] <seadoo18> lol
[08:57] <seadoo18> is that the bot?
[08:57] <ExilE> even on windows i run firefox and banish ie
[08:57] <marshall> bart_, do you mean under wine? i hear da quote from ms saying ie 7 would never run on anything other than windows
[08:57] <LjL> seadoo18: yes
[08:57] <seadoo18> haha
[08:57] <seadoo18> awesome
[08:57] <SeanTater> aoupi: I have one, but it's not exactly average (it's a slideshow), I tried a dvd, but ffmpeg won't decode it
[08:58] <marshall> !ping
[08:58] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[08:58] <POVaddct> hehe
[08:58] <raintheory> ?
[08:58] <marshall> aw, that used to be ping pong
[08:58] <bart_> marshall, I don't think it would be possible without wine
[08:58] <raintheory> !pong
[08:58] <ubotu> Your Alive and Kickin .......*grumbles and go's back to his dive-into-python manual*
[08:58] <ExilE> is there much problem dual booting windows xp and ubuntu?
[08:58] <SeanTater> marshall: I think seveas had to have the last laugh
[08:58] <XxTwitchxX> Whenever I use a webapplet with java, it always freezes like, 10 minutes into it, does anyone know how to fix?
[08:58] <seadoo18> !ping
[08:58] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[08:58] <Constrictor> ExilE no there isn't at all
[08:59] <seadoo18> lol that bot is hilarious
[08:59] <marshall> SeanTater, lol i guess so
[08:59] <LjL> !msg the bot
[08:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[08:59] <aoupi> SeanTater: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=intitle%3Aindex.of+%22avi%22+-htm+-html+-php+-asp+%22Last+Modified%22&btnG=Search
[08:59] <javaJake> XxTwitchxX: No, no fixes. :(
[08:59] <seadoo18> !msg the bot
[08:59] <Constrictor> been doing it since i started using ubuntu
[08:59] <seadoo18> ubotu!
[08:59] <LjL> seadoo18, please do what that message says
[08:59] <XxTwitchxX> javaJake, ok, thanks anyways :D
[08:59] <seadoo18> ok
[08:59] <ExilE> i've been meaning to try linux for years but didn't want to loose whole system if something went wrong
[08:59] <seadoo18> sorry
[08:59] <cappe> ExilE: works fine... maybe it's a timeout time with GRUB that makes it start a little slowly. I thought it wouldn't start at all the first time
[09:00] <marshall> seadoo18, lol
[09:00] <seadoo18> JavaJake: i can't find anything about a mic
[09:00] <seadoo18> or my soundcard for that matter
[09:00] <marshall> "abusing the bots will only result in angry ops"
[09:00] <seadoo18> but i know my soundcard works
[09:00] <SeanTater> aoupi: thanks
[09:00] <bart_> cappe, some sites ask for ie
[09:00] <jmitchj> javajake: How can i uninstall an invalid driver!
[09:00] <Constrictor> ExilE: I suggest you try the live CD first. If everything works during installation you will have the opportunity to setup a dual boot
[09:00] <porkpie> POVaddct:how do I get ubuntu to install apt from the web .....I can't get it to see the cdrom
[09:00] <ExilE> where do you find live-cd is it the normal download?
[09:01] <Constrictor> cappe: I still use GRUB
[09:01] <POVaddct> porkpie: do you already have net access on ubuntu?
[09:01] <Constrictor> go to www.ubuntu.com and click on download
[09:01] <marshall> ExilE, what live cd are you looking for?
[09:01] <SV452> this is a rather tough one - let me explain - we have four offices in the country each having their own Domain Controler (DC) and Exchange Server (MX) and then all is connected to our Main DC and MX sitting smack bang between them all making it possible for all branches to communicate between each other, now our IP's works like this: 192.15.16.xxx, 192.15.32.xxx, 192.15.80.xxx, 192.15.112.xxx, 192.15.144.xxx. and then our domain is example
[09:01] <cappe> bart_: yes but if your browser identifies as IE it could work anyhow.. (i think)
[09:01] <javaJake> ;)
[09:01] <Constrictor> you can do it normally, through FTP or even torrent
[09:01] <porkpie> POVaddct:yes
[09:01] <seadoo18> lol
[09:01] <ExilE> i tried knoppix but had to run in failsafe mode to work
[09:01] <POVaddct> porkpie: can you ping www.ubuntulinux.org ?
[09:02] <seadoo18> javaJake, i can't find either my soundcard or my mic
[09:02] <seadoo18> in the device manager
[09:02] <jazzygm> I just did an apt-cache search emacs, and there are emacs21 packages, but no xemacs
[09:02] <ExilE> marshall: ubunti for amd64
[09:02] <tRSS> how do i edit my fstab to be able to mount remote nfs partition at boot?
[09:02] <ExilE> sorry ubuntu
[09:02] <marshall> cappe, bart_, unless the page actually *needs* ie
[09:02] <porkpie> POVaddct:Hmm! no I can't ping it ...???
[09:02] <bart_> cappe, you think that if it works that way Googlebot/2.1+ will work as well..
[09:02] <javaJake> seadoo18: hmmm
[09:02] <porkpie> POVaddct:Hmm! no I can't ping it   strange
[09:02] <javaJake> seadoo18: that's a bad sign
[09:02] <Constrictor> ExilE i'm sure you will find your requirements at ubuntu.com
[09:02] <tRSS> !nfs
[09:02] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:03] <bart_> cappe, marshall, it's just javascript that checks your browser
[09:03] <javaJake> jmitchj: ndiswrapper -r <driver>
[09:03] <marshall> ExilE, http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:03] <seadoo18> javaJake: well obviously
[09:03] <POVaddct> porkpie: can you ping 82.211.81.166 ?
[09:03] <javaJake> seadoo18: Well... gotta split... can I PM you my e-mail?
[09:03] <seadoo18> uhh, sure?
[09:03] <javaJake> seadoo18: Sorry about the loose thread. :(
[09:03] <seadoo18> no prob
[09:03] <seadoo18> it's not a pressing issue at the moment
[09:03] <jazzygm> I just did "apt-cache search emacs", and there are emacs21 packages, but no xemacs and when I tried downloading the xemacs packages the installer gave errors about dependant files
[09:03] <marshall> bart_,cappe: true say. i dont know how to get firefox to spoof ie. maybe theres an extension
[09:03] <porkpie> POVaddct:nope  ....looks like I need the gateway add into the config
[09:03] <POVaddct> porkpie: i bet you have no default route and not configured dns resolving
[09:04] <seadoo18> bart_: you can make Firefox spoof IE
[09:04] <marshall> seadoo18, your sound device must show in your device manager
[09:04] <POVaddct> porkpie: route add default gw <your_gateway>
[09:04] <POVaddct> porkpie: echo "nameserver your_nameserver_ip" > /etc/resolv.conf
[09:04] <jmitchj> javajake: -r is not an option
[09:04] <seadoo18> marshall: the only one at-style sound
[09:04] <seadoo18> sorry
[09:04] <porkpie> POVaddct:name servers are in
[09:04] <marshall> seadoo18, if you were able to listen to the song i sent you, then ubuntu must recognize your sound controller
[09:05] <seadoo18> AT-Style Speaker Sound marshall
[09:05] <marshall> seadoo18, hmm
[09:05] <POVaddct> porkpie: okay
[09:05] <POVaddct> porkpie: did you set the default route now?
[09:05] <marshall> seadoo18, can you give me a screen of that entry in your device manager?
[09:05] <porkpie> POVaddct:I am now getting destination unreachable
[09:05] <bart_> seadoo18, how?
[09:05] <marshall> seadoo18, make the device manager fullscreen in the shot too
[09:05] <seadoo18> marshall, no i'm mentally handicapped in such a way that i can't
[09:06] <POVaddct> porkpie: your gateway ip must be in the same net that you configured for eth0
[09:06] <marshall> seadoo18, oh... im sorry
[09:06] <bart_> cappe, marshall, seadoo18, well I found out that opera does stay open when I go to that site
[09:06] <seadoo18> bart_: hold on a second
[09:07] <porkpie> POVaddct:it is   ... server ip 192.168.0.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1
[09:07] <marshall> bart_, cappe, seadoo18: awesome
[09:07] <POVaddct> porkpie: so the ip address of the ubuntu machine is 192.168.0.15 ?
[09:07] <ExilE> marshall: thanks i found it in a mirror from ubuntu site
[09:07] <porkpie> POVaddct:I have 2 interfaces in this server .....I can ping the patched interface ...but can't ping the gateway
[09:08] <bart_> marshall, cappe, seadoo18, Only the menu isn't working as it should (no text on the buttons)
[09:08] <seadoo18> bart_: hmm
[09:08] <bart_> marshall, cappe, seadoo18, But that is flash
[09:08] <porkpie> POVaddct:yes server ip 192.168.0.15
[09:08] <seadoo18> bart_: yes..
[09:08] <cappe> bart_: try wine:ing with gecko-support to your wine then start IE...
[09:08] <l0st1> wheres the xinitrc file located?
[09:08] <POVaddct> porkpie: what do you call server in this context?
[09:08] <porkpie> it's up now
[09:09] <ExilE> this is a stupid question considering i'm in a linux irc chat room but what runs games better linux or windows
[09:09] <Seveas> ExilE, dependson the game
[09:09] <marshall> ExilE, didnt i send you what you were looking for?
[09:09] <jazzygm> I've edited the sources.list but I still don't seem to be able to install from the universe???
[09:09] <Atomiku> So I cant use the CDROM to install ubuntu and im also having alot of trouble with the net install. Is it possible to download an image of an already installed ubuntu and copy it to a blank hard drive
[09:09] <bart_> cappe, sorry if it sounds noobish but what's gecko-support?
[09:09] <ExilE> marshall: yea i found it
[09:09] <apokryphos> jazzygm: have you followed the instructions from the FAQ?
[09:09] <marshall> bart_, get flash 9
[09:09] <POVaddct> porkpie: a server is not a machine. a server is a program that provides some service.
[09:10] <porkpie> POVaddct:OK .I can ping the gateway ..now but not the 82 addess
[09:10] <jazzygm> apokraphyos: errr.... what faq?
[09:10] <ExilE> saveas: games in general
[09:10] <marshall> bart_, we have flash 7 in the repos, it doesnt do everything that flash 8 does and some flash doesnt run properly
[09:10] <angelo> usplash on edgy doesn't work..
[09:10] <cappe> bart_: it is a plugin-kinda-program supporting wine to be able to surf with IE..
[09:10] <apokryphos> jazzygm: in the /topic
[09:10] <marshall> bart_, send me the link, i have flash 9 and ill see it it works for me
[09:10] <seadoo18> ExilE: there is no question that MS Windows has a much more vast variety of games and gaming utilities (such as DirectX)
[09:10] <pettern> Im  having some problems with locales in Ubuntu. Here is the error i get when trying to reconfigure. http://www.pastebin.no/403  Any way to reinstall all the related packages and remove the config files so i start from scratch?
[09:10] <tuxtoti> Guys..I have a weird problem : I wanted net thro my USB (Huawei quidway WA1003A..yup its a weird modem given by my ISP bsnl in India)..
[09:10] <tuxtoti> So booted ubuntu from a cd(live)..and to my wonder ubuntu detected my usb as eth1.and i got my net just like that..but i didnt have the DNS ip so i rebooted to windoze to check it..and came back to ubuntu(again booting it live from a cd)..to my surprise this time it didnt detect my USB as eth1..what could be the reason?.now im connected to the net thro'  a ethernet card(eth0) which wasnt connected that time...
[09:11] <POVaddct> porkpie: 82 address? you didnt tell that before? can you please give me complete info? the ip adresses of both interfaces in the ubuntu machine?
[09:11] <seadoo18> ExilE: but that doesn't mean it can play them better than Linux, it's just that there's more developers for windows games
[09:11] <marshall> bart_: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[09:11] <bart_> marshall, I don't know how you got flash 9 (as adobe.com says i should dl 7), it's : caz.nl
[09:11] <seadoo18> bart_: go to the ubuntu site
[09:11] <POVaddct> porkpie: ah you mean the ip i gave you to ping
[09:11] <l0st1> lol
[09:11] <l0st1> oops
[09:11] <ExilE> the thing is i tend to play a lot of games online and most people run linux is this because they hate windows or is it because linux is better
[09:11] <porkpie> POVaddct:I can ping the www.ubuntulinux.org address now
[09:11] <marshall> bart_, flash 9 isnt officially out
[09:12] <POVaddct> porkpie: good
[09:12] <marshall> bart_: but i got my claws on some beta
[09:12] <teasum> Hello all, I have a problem with programs crashing at the save dialog.  Firefox, Gedit, and OpenOffice all crash if I try to save a file in a location other than default.
[09:12] <POVaddct> porkpie: now do: apt-get update
[09:12] <seadoo18> ExilE: you mean they are playing games on linux or running a game server?
[09:12] <marshall> FLASH 9 ERRBODY!!! http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[09:12] <marshall> EH GUYS?
[09:12] <marshall> FLASH 9!! http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[09:12] <ExilE> client using linux playing a game
[09:12] <seadoo18> marshall: that link is broken
[09:12] <porkpie> POVaddct:yep ....it's getting it
[09:12] <seadoo18> marshall: just kidding it's fine
[09:12] <porkpie> done
[09:12] <BelialMkII> marshall, Ive noticed it still doesnt play nice with some sites requir\ing nine, The digg labs for instance
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> marshall: yea that happened yesterday...
[09:13] <bart_> seadoo18, I just used it
[09:13] <teasum> If i run firefox from a terminal, I get a "segmentation fault" error when it closes.
[09:13] <POVaddct> porkpie: after that: apt-get install openssh-server
[09:13] <cappe> bart_: wine will automatically install geko when you run wine path_to_ie
[09:13] <teasum> can anybody help me?
[09:13] <marshall> Admiral_Chicago, yeah i know. youre welcome anyway
[09:13] <Atomiku> So I cant use the CDROM to install ubuntu and im also having alot of trouble with the net install. Is it possible to download an image of an already installed ubuntu and copy it to a blank hard drive
[09:13] <seadoo18> ExilE: what games, specifically
[09:13] <porkpie> POVaddct:thanks for the help ....I am ok now
[09:13] <POVaddct> porkpie: good :)
[09:14] <marshall> BelialMkII, yeah i know, its kind of lame with flash video. the animation is slower, but the audio stays in sync so im good
[09:14] <ExilE> tends to be wolfenstein:enemy territory
[09:14] <ExilE> and games bases on quake 3
[09:14] <POVaddct> porkpie: to make the interface config permanent, read "man 5 interfaces" and edit /etc/network/interfaces accordingly
[09:14] <porkpie> POVaddct:One more question is the amd64 server build  multi cpu enabled ?
[09:15] <macsim> ahah
[09:15] <POVaddct> porkpie: sorry, don't know about amd64
[09:15] <marshall> bart_, hmm, the flash on this page doesnt run well for me either
[09:15] <spiekey> hello!
[09:15] <kinga> Hi there everybody, does anybody know which process is in charge of the video during the boot sequence?
[09:15] <pettern> Im  having some problems with locales in Ubuntu. Here is the error i get when trying to reconfigure. http://www.pastebin.no/403  Any way to reinstall all the related packages and remove the config files so i start from scratch?
[09:15] <spiekey> i need some help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[09:15] <cappe> ExilE: linux has a great way of handling the memory, hopefully the programmers of the game will benefit that and the game will run smoothly in linux even better than in a Windows environment
[09:15] <porkpie> POVaddct:OK ...I will ask on the server  channel.   I have 2 dual cores in this server ...so it should rock
[09:15] <spiekey> ...Changethe BOOT flag to NFS in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf on the client and make a net bootable initrd.img with mkinitramfs... --> i have not got a client yet.
[09:16] <spiekey> i would like to make a diskless client.
[09:16] <cbx33> spiekey, check out ltsp
[09:16] <ExilE> that game blows in windows i have so many problems with it even though system is more than capable of running it
[09:16] <Ono> hi i need a defrag tool, did you know a tool?
[09:16] <kinga> I would like to tweek the screen during the boot process, is there anybody that can help?
[09:16] <spiekey> cbx33: ltsp is quite complex, and i would like to run ubuntu
[09:16] <b|ackgraz> spiekey: GRUB locking up on you?
[09:16] <cbx33> spiekey, ltsp is easy
[09:16] <bart_> marshall, In firefox (and swiftfox) it just closes, does your windows stay open?
[09:17] <cbx33> have you looked at edubuntu?
[09:17] <cbx33> maybe worth giving it a look.....
[09:17] <apokryphos> Ono: /msg ubotu defrag
[09:17] <cbx33> just to try it out
[09:17] <cbx33> see if it does what you want
[09:17] <marshall> bart_, yeah it stays open
[09:17] <cbx33> I gotta go
[09:17] <cbx33> nn all
[09:17] <Ono> hmm ok apokryphos thanks
[09:17] <teasum> can anybody help me with my problem?  Firefox, Gedit, and OpenOffice all crash when trying to save a file.  I don't know if this is a gnome issue or what.
[09:17] <seadoo18> marshall: yo
[09:18] <seadoo18> marshall: where'd you install that mofo flash 9?
[09:18] <marshall> seadoo18, sup?!
[09:18] <seadoo18> marshall, i can't find my mozilla folder :S
[09:18] <marshall> seadoo18, download the linux .tar.gz and follow the install instructions in the archive
[09:18] <b|ackgraz> well
[09:18] <marshall> seadoo18, ok
[09:18] <tannerld> is ./configure a thing you install or is it just defaultly in a ubuntu server?
[09:18] <b|ackgraz> i wonder if anyone can help me
[09:18] <alejandro> people, do you who could be the best linux svn client on "market" ??? ...
[09:18] <shawn417> how can i restore my synaptic repositories?
[09:18] <seadoo18> tannerld, it comes with programs man
[09:19] <pettern> is this the best place to ask Ubuntu problems or is there a forum or something where there is more people and bigger chance to get your problem solved?
[09:19] <b|ackgraz> GRUB keeps locking up on me
[09:19] <marshall> seadoo18, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:19] <tannerld> seadoo18: ah
[09:19] <seadoo18> tannerld, used to configure them
[09:19] <seadoo18> marshall: i se
[09:19] <tannerld> seadoo18: heh
[09:19] <alejandro> people, do you who could be the best linux svn client on "market" ??? ...
[09:19] <tannerld> seadoo18: thanks
[09:19] <seadoo18> tannerld: np
[09:19] <bart_> I installed firefox manually once, in /opt/firefox, but when I updated, is it still in .opt/firefox, or back in the old dir?
[09:19] <b|ackgraz> and it boots fine when i tell the ubuntu CD to boot from the HD
[09:19] <ExilE> NOOB ALERT!!!! Can you install ubuntu on a sata drive
[09:19] <eddie_> anyone got a good fully working "sources.list" on pastebin with mutiverse and universe repos
[09:19] <marshall> seadoo18, replace the libflash-plugin.so (or something like that) in both of those folders
[09:19] <niko7865> yes
[09:19] <jazzygm> right, now I finally have xemacs installing :) is there a way to change the screen position in the os - im missing about 30 pixels off to the left of the screen?
[09:19] <alejandro> people, do you who could be the best linux svn client on "market" ??? ...
[09:19] <marshall> seadoo18, i had a bit of trouble making it stick for some reason
[09:19] <eddie_> !repositories
[09:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:20] <alejandro> people, do you who could be the best linux svn client on "market" ??? ...
[09:20] <angelo> usplash on edgy doesn't work..
[09:20] <iwkse> hi all, can anybody helps me with 9800pro? I can't get the direct rendering... i should use linux or proprietary drivers? Anybody has such vcard?
[09:20] <webben> angelo: #ubuntu+1 for edgy problems
[09:21] <kitche7> alejandro: umm svn unless your talking about a gui one
[09:21] <marshall> angelo, #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <sladen> iwkse: 9800pre whay?  Who made it?
[09:21] <seadoo18> marshall, i don't have permission to write to that folder
[09:21] <teasum> I have a serious problem with multiple programs crashing when trying to save a file.  Any help?
[09:21] <seadoo18> marshall, gotta do it as root?
[09:21] <iwkse> sladen: 9800pro from ati
[09:21] <bart_> seadoo18, yes, or just chmod it as root
[09:21] <sladen> iwkse: ideally the Open Source drivers, but if you need acceleration, you'll be forced to use the binary ones
[09:21] <angelo> marshall, webben, edgy is at release candidate.. it is suggested to report here problems now
[09:21] <angelo> i've read this on the announcement
[09:21] <ricanelite> Hello, I have a HP All-in-one Printer 1410 series. How can I get it working on Ubuntu? Because I went to System Settings. But when I try to print out a Test Page it says it went through but my printer does not do anything
[09:21] <webben> angelo: really? my apologies then :)
[09:22] <iwkse> sladen: yes, i want acceleration cause i'm curious about net gaming in linux:)
[09:22] <marshall> seadoo18, yeah, press alt+f2 and type 'gksu nautilus /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/' if you want to do it in nautilus
[09:22] <angelo> webben, np :)
[09:22] <marshall> angelo, no
[09:22] <ww2> iwkse, from my understading proprietary drivers have better performance
[09:23] <angelo> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate
[09:23] <ww2> iwkse, but still, they are way worse than the Windows drivers
[09:23] <sladen> ww2: there is currently no 3D accerlation support in the ATI and Nvidia open source drivers
[09:23] <angelo> marshall, it says "If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but aren't sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums"
[09:23] <seadoo18> marshall, screw that shit
[09:23] <seadoo18> marshall, i used cp from bash
[09:23] <sladen> ww2: actually the Nvidia binary and Window binary driver are identical inside
[09:24] <iwkse> sladen: i guess cause ati sucks and don't give hardware specific to open source community
[09:24] <marshall> seadoo18, if you want to do it from the command line just do 'sudo cp <path to the untarred libflash-plugin.so> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflash-plugin.so'
[09:24] <ww2> sladen, no 3d acelleration support? What you mean?
[09:24] <jazzygm> is there a way to change the screen position - im missing about 30 pixels off to the left of the screen?
[09:24] <alejandro> does anyone know about some easy-dealing-with svn client for debian/ubuntu ???
[09:24] <marshall> seadoo18, lol yeah
[09:24] <marshall> angelo, oh
[09:24] <ww2> sladen, I`m talking about ATI
[09:24] <seadoo18> marshall, :D
[09:24] <sladen> iwkse: both ATI and Nvidia don't give out specs :(
[09:24] <pettern> alejandro: svn-client is great
[09:24] <seadoo18> marshall, so that's it?
[09:24] <az_phox> I need java help
[09:24] <seadoo18> marshall, it's installed now?
[09:24] <marshall> iwkse, lol thats exactly right
[09:24] <marshall> iwkse, ATI sucks
[09:25] <esmour> hi everyone
[09:25] <bart_> seadoo18, Did you backup your old one first? I would have done a copy to libflash-plugin.so.9 and rename the old to .7 and make a symbolic link
[09:25] <seadoo18> marshall, you suck
[09:25] <ww2> sladen, what you mean by no 3d acelleration support? I`ve played 3D games with my 9600 XT in Ubuntu... including Enemy Territory
[09:25] <seadoo18> marshall, ati are good
[09:25] <seadoo18> lol
[09:25] <blackgraz> anyone know why GRUB is locking up on me?
[09:25] <az_phox> can anyone help me install latest java install
[09:25] <esmour> anyone recieve buffer i.o errors?
[09:25] <seadoo18> bart_, why would you need to do that?
[09:25] <marshall> seadoo18, yeah, restart firefox and go to a flash page, then right click on the animation and see if it says 'About Flash 9' int he dropdown
[09:25] <iwkse> marshall: yes, it does. And much more when their proprietary drivers aren't as good as windows one...hard SUCK
[09:25] <angelo> usplash on edgy doesn't work..
[09:26] <alejandro> does anyone know about some easy-dealing-with svn client for debian/ubuntu ???
[09:26] <sharperguy> !ubuntu+1
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <bart_> seadoo18, If it is too unstable, or if something goes wrong, it's just a beta release
[09:26] <esmour> when i try booting the live cd... it hang up at mounting root  with a buffer i/o error
[09:26] <angelo> sharperguy, read the rc announcement
[09:26] <sladen> ww2: the open-source driver does not have 3D hardware acceleration.  The binary driver does.  Which were you using?
[09:26] <shawn417> is there a command to restore default repositories?
[09:26] <iwkse> i just hope in something different than ATI or NVIDIA....maybe something new
[09:26] <sladen> esmour: can you file a bug including what type of hardware you have
[09:26] <cappe_> bart_: I have a great (illegal) solution to you, go to TPB and download "VMWare workstation for linux" then you download "XP Borg editon 5.0 FINAL" from the same place then you setup a virtual machine with that ISO file then you are good to go surfing with IE ;)
[09:26] <iwkse> sladen: i'm using proprietary driver but i don't get acceleration
[09:26] <seadoo18> marshall, yeah it's working
[09:27] <xipietotec> Anyone who can help: I've got a solid state flash card hooked up to a USB flash card reader and linux is not auto-detecting it like it does my usb HD
[09:27] <marshall> seadoo18, you should talk, you forgot how hard it was to get your ati drivers working? it would be that hard if ati gave a shit
[09:27] <esmour> slade: sure
[09:27] <ww2> sladen, I was talking about the proprietary driver.
[09:27] <esmour> sladen: sure
[09:27] <seadoo18> marshall, this drawplay game kicks anus
[09:27] <sleon> hi
[09:27] <Atomiku> So I cant use the CDROM to install ubuntu and im also having alot of trouble with the net install. Is it possible to download an image of an already installed ubuntu and copy it to a blank hard drive
[09:27] <sladen> cappe_: there's a script around for installing IE and wine
[09:27] <sleon> is there anywere any sort of list of all wireless lan cards which are supported by ubuntu linux?
[09:27] <ww2> sladen, I was answering to iwkse`s question about what driver to use with his 9800 card
[09:27] <iwkse> ww2: i'm using proprietary drivers
[09:27] <xipietotec> Anyone have any idea why I would be experiencing this problem?
[09:28] <sladen> sleon: most of them out of the box.  It's not the card that matters, but the chipset and there are only 4-5.
[09:28] <marshall> seadoo18, lol the one with the mummy and the spikes?
[09:28] <PSUSI> fetchmail has an option to keep mail on the server, but is there a way to get it to keep it there only for a few days, then delete older messages after that?
[09:28] <iwkse> but i get mesa drivers and not ati...
[09:28] <sleon> sladen: where can i get the list of chipsets then?
[09:28] <ww2> iwkse, well, thats pretty much the right choice then... why did you ask? As far as I know you`ll only need the open source drivers if you want to install AIGLX.
[09:28] <iwkse> how to get ati drivers t work?
[09:28] <esmour> anyone ever get that error though?
[09:28] <sioux> is there a ubuntu updates that fix the nvidia bug?
[09:28] <seadoo18> marshall, hell yeah
[09:28] <ww2> iwkse, type flgrxinfo in a terminal and paste the output here.
[09:28] <seadoo18> marshall, i love it
[09:28] <kmaynard> !ati
[09:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <sladen> sleon: eg. Orinoco, ipw2100/2200/3945, atmel, broadcom  cover 99.97% of the market and they all work out of the box
[09:29] <treitter> I think the new xinit package broke my network connection in Dapper
[09:29] <seadoo18> everyone!!!
[09:29] <xipietotec> Anyone who can help: I've got a solid state flash card hooked up to a USB flash card reader and Ubuntu is not auto-detecting it like it does my usb HD
[09:29] <ww2> iwkse, sorry... "fglrxinfo"
[09:29] <marshall> sioux, yeah there are brand spanking new drivers for nvidia out for edgy
[09:29] <seadoo18> try this, it's the coolest thing you will ever play
[09:29] <sioux> ubot I prefer sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:29] <seadoo18> http://www.addictinggames.com/drawplay.html
[09:29] <sleon> sladen: and intel/centrino drivers? do they also work with wpa?
[09:29] <tannerld> whats the package name for gnu autoconf?
[09:29] <sladen> xipietotec: what does  'lsusb' say after you've plugged it in, can you see the card reader listed?
[09:29] <treitter> er - let me try downgrading to confirm, though
[09:29] <treitter> back later
[09:29] <marshall> seadoo18, lol ya its fun
[09:29] <sleon> sladen: there are lots of netgear cards for example which are not working, right?
[09:29] <iwkse> ww2: yes i made it already...i was saying it uses mesa...
[09:29] <iwkse> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:29] <iwkse> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:29] <iwkse> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:29] <iwkse> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[09:29] <sioux> marshal do you if could be possible upgrade datter to edgy?
[09:29] <sladen> sleon: the ipw ones should work with WPA, yes
[09:30] <sleon> sladen: thx
[09:30] <sameer`> is there a way to boot livecd in textmode ??
[09:30] <highvoltage> sameer`: unfortunately not
[09:30] <sladen> sleon: the netgear cards are probably something else inside, can you find out what the actual chipset is?
[09:30] <xipietotec> sladen: only my normal USB HD is showing up as a USB device
[09:30] <highvoltage> sameer`: although there's an alternate install cd available from the ubuntu website that gives you the text installer
[09:30] <ww2> iwkse, do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find your videocard`s section and replace "mesa" with "fglrx". Save and restart X with ctrl + alt + backspace.
[09:30] <kitche7> sladen: it's atheros chipset
[09:30] <sleon> sladen: it is had
[09:30] <XCalibr42> Why should I choose Ubuntu over Mandriva?
[09:30] <xipietotec> although the card reader itself is recieving power
[09:31] <sleon> sladen: and the problem is: same models have different chipsets :(
[09:31] <sladen> xipietotec: sounds like you've got a bigger issue if it doesn't appear in the list of devices.  Compare  'lsusb' before and after you'veplugged it in
[09:31] <sameer`> highvoltage: i actually want to use the live cd in text mode
[09:31] <sleon> sladen: and manufacturers do not tell which chipsets they are using
[09:31] <tannerld> whats the package name for gnu autoconf?
[09:31] <kmaynard> XCalibr42, why should you choose mandriva over ubuntu?
[09:31] <exhale> XCalibr42: try both
[09:31] <highvoltage> sameer`: you can get a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[09:31] <bina> Hi, when doing update-manager -c -d to upgrade to edgy I get an error saying that something went wrong calculating the dependencies.  it looks like its libgl1-mesa-dri, which I think is a third party package (installed for compiz).  is there a way to get apt to install the ubuntu version?
[09:31] <sleon> sladen: for example rev 1.0 of a  card has completely different chipset then rev2.0
[09:31] <highvoltage> sameer`: but you can't get a text mode installer
[09:31] <sladen> sleon: indeed.  If you find a card that doesn't work, that's a bug---and one that needs fixing, if you have such an example of card, please file a bug
[09:31] <niko7865> XCalibr42: I chose Ubuntu because it recognised my wireless card out of the box and came on one CD instead of 5+
[09:31] <sameer`> highvoltage: i m not install, i using it from cd, :D
[09:32] <bluefox83> !nvidia
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <iwkse> ww2: i don't have mesa in video driver but ati...i should change with fglrx?
[09:32] <sladen> sleon: even better, there's a orinoco copy out there, except this one requires firmware loading first *and* the PCI IDs are the same
[09:32] <webben> XCalibr42, Because it actually has an accessibility project (for instance).
[09:32] <sleon> sladen: maybe there is a sort of a page about linux hardware with such list?
[09:32] <highvoltage> sameer`: so you just want a text terminal?
[09:32] <jorge__> hello there...can anyone help me?
[09:32] <ww2> iwkse, yeah
[09:32] <xipietotec> damn.....no difference, I've got no way to get these files off the camera-card
[09:32] <sameer`> yea kinda
[09:32] <webben> XCalibr42, It's difficult to suggest reasons without knowing you.
[09:32] <ww2> iwkse, sorry, my mistake
[09:32] <jorge__> im earing a ppiiiiittttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[09:32] <XCalibr42> IS there a good ubuntu livecd that I Can try without redoing my system?
[09:32] <iwkse> ww2: ok.)
[09:32] <jorge__> on my left hearphone
[09:32] <iwkse> i'm going to try
[09:32] <sameer`> without live starting x
[09:32] <webben> XCalibr42, yes there are two
[09:33] <jorge__> can be a ubuntu-issue?
[09:33] <pettern> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1637274#post1637274  <--any suggestions to how i can fix this problem?
[09:33] <jorge__> (right one is OK
[09:33] <sladen> sleon: if it's a laptop, we have the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[09:33] <niko7865> XCalibr42: The standard install CD is a live CD
[09:33] <sleon> sladen: thx
[09:33] <webben> XCalibr42, Dapper CD is the stable one (six months old); Edgy LCD is unstable
[09:33] <aoupi> sameer`: you can hit ctrl+alt+F2 login and run /etc/init.d/gdm stop I think
[09:33] <ww2> iwkse, would you prefer folllowing a guide? I`m kind of a beginner... dont want you to blem me if it doesnt work hehe.
[09:33] <sameer`> aoupi: i want runlevel 3 from start
[09:34] <jorge__> im earing a "piiiiiiiii" on my left hearphone. Right plays music ok...can be this a ubuntu-issue?(looks like HW problem)
[09:34] <iwkse> ww2: i'll do both things
[09:34] <sameer`> as my system is really slow n cannt boot :(
[09:34] <sladen> jorge__: can you check the same setup under a different OS (eg. MS Windows?)
[09:34] <tannerld> where can I get gnu automake 1.6.0?
[09:34] <sladen> jorge__: try plugging/replugging the headphones
[09:34] <jorge__> i should install windows:SSSSSS
[09:35] <jorge__> sladen(already done...even i tried with other ones
[09:35] <PSUSI> fetchmail has an option to keep mail on the server, but is there a way to get it to keep it there only for a few days, then delete older messages after that?
[09:35] <jorge__> even tried to connect in diferents jumpers in fornt panel...but either
[09:35] <boink> PSUSI: it's in man fetchmail
[09:35] <PSUSI> boink: I'm not seeing it
[09:35] <sladen> jorge__: did other headphones give the same issue?  What about speakers instead of headphones?
[09:36] <Milkyy> Hello. I just installed an Audigy 2 SE card into my computer, but no sound in Ubuntu. Help please
[09:36] <PSUSI> looks like it is keep it forever, or delete after download... can't see a way to keep it for a while
[09:36] <jorge__> i didnt try speakers...other headphones gave me the same issue
[09:36] <johso> I used some repos to compile Gaim yesterday, debian experimental, and I think I might have updated som packages to the newer debian versions. how do I ensure I'm only running the dapper ones? how do I downgrade? dist-upgrade says everythings cool, but I found at lest one package that wasn't dapper.
[09:37] <jorge__> i could try speakers....but this ppiiiiiiii are becoming me crazy
[09:37] <Ninn> Hello. Using Live-CD, ruined my bootloader, chant enter my linuxes right now. How can i restore my grub?
[09:37] <aoupi> johso: maybe this can help http://lists.netisland.net/archives/plug/plug-2005-06/msg00155.html
[09:37] <apokryphos> Ninn: if you're using edgy, please head to #ubuntu+1 -- with regard to recovering grub, check the FAQ
[09:37] <sameer`> Ninn: did u repartioned ur hdd ?
[09:38] <marshall> seadoo18, yo man
[09:38] <Code-E> !tar > Code-E
[09:38] <jorge__> another interesant fact is that headphones store charge
[09:38] <riddlebox> what is the name of a program like paint for windows?
[09:38] <jorge__> and if they doesnt "play" anithing for a while, the sound jack stop working...for that headphones and for others
[09:38] <cappe_> what kernel will edgy run later on when it is out officially??
[09:39] <Ninn> No,. i just formated some partitions, no repoartitioning. Edgy doenst work for me ... 6 disk and not a fuctional install. :(
[09:39] <aoupi> jorge__: got any 1:1 transformer to get rid of the interference? :)
[09:39] <Milkyy>  I just installed an Audigy 2 SE card into my computer, but no sound in Ubuntu. Help please
[09:39] <jorge__> (like sound service/subsystem brokes
[09:39] <Code-E> !make > Cody
[09:39] <jorge__> 1:1?
[09:39] <Code-E> !make > Code-E
[09:39] <aoupi> jorge__: a transformer that doesn't realy change the voltage xV in -> xV out
[09:39] <sameer`> Ninn: might be that u grub conf will be messed up
[09:39] <sameer`> just try to find the partion
[09:40] <Code-E> How do I do the command make
[09:40] <aoupi> jorge__: that get rids of DC interference from the computer
[09:40] <Code-E> it says unknown command
[09:40] <jorge__> i just have some headphones and 2 speakers...
[09:40] <jorge__> interference only in LEFT channel??????????
[09:40] <POVaddct> Code-E: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:40] <Ninn> hm ... .yeah .. by to many non-working installations :P
[09:41] <Code-E> thx POVaddct
[09:41] <EmxBA> hi
[09:41] <cappe_> Milkyy: try sudo modprobe snd_ca0106
[09:41] <EmxBA> can someone copy me /var/lib/dpkg/lock file?
[09:41] <jorge__> even more...if i plug front panel jumpers...when i plug Right, music is played perfectly on "left" earphone...if i plug left jumper...piiiiii is on the right one
[09:41] <jorge__> with 2 diferent earphones
[09:41] <patrick_king> can anyone help me with installing the nvidia drivers
[09:41] <jorge__> ...hardware issue?
[09:41] <PSUSI> since upgrading to dapper, when I try to start up emacs it bombs with "unknown color: black"... anyone have any idea what's wrong or how to figure it out?
[09:42] <aoupi> jorge__: this is just a wild guess, but make sure your puter and everythin is grounded, non-grounded computers can behave funny
[09:42] <Milkyy> cappe_: and now restart? or is that module loaded now?
[09:42] <Ninn> cant find the faq. got a link for me, apokryphos?
[09:42] <apokryphos> Ninn: sure, check the channel topic
[09:42] <cappe_> should be loaded .. try playing music now
[09:42] <Ninn> ah! ;-)
[09:42] <patrick_king> i get this when trying to install nvidia drivers Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[09:43] <jorge__> lol...i konw aoupi....but actually im using a common-traditional earphones, plugged back of my PC...so no ground posibilities
[09:43] <sameer`> Ninn: wat error ur getting
[09:43] <jorge__> shouldnt ppiiiiiiiiii in fact
[09:43] <SB|nblracer> Hello
[09:43] <grout_work> i installed phpmyadmin on my lamp install but I get this error, anyone know why? http://grout.ws:85/phpmyadmin
[09:44] <SB|nblracer> Need some help with my Fstab
[09:44] <aoupi> jorge__: I ment your entire computer, that it is in a grounded socket[don't know if this is the right word, but where you plug the power cord in the wall] 
[09:44] <jorge__> i could try in windows(after installing)....if i get the same->hardware stuff...but if i got  aclean-not messy sound?
[09:44] <jorge__> ok, ill check that
[09:44] <cpk2> jorge__: grounded computer means a 3 pronged socket
[09:44] <SB|nblracer> What are "defualt" options mean?, What should i set it to for a ext3 part for all users
[09:44] <jorge__> ill check power supply
[09:44] <jorge__> and all that stuff
[09:44] <Milkyy> I'll try restarting, then...
[09:44] <sonics> hi
[09:44] <jeanjean> grout_work, what kind of error ?
[09:44] <jorge__> ill turn off before...maybe is easier/safer :PPPPPPPP
[09:44] <jorge__> see u later guys
[09:44] <cappe_> Milkyy: you shouldn't have to...
[09:45] <Milkyy> well, sound isn't working.
[09:45] <grout_work> Internal Server Error
[09:46] <sonics> Is there anyone who can tell me why windows users see my  -s -s and -s someway wicked.
[09:46] <johso> aoupi: thanks for the link, but I didn't quite catch how atp_preferences works.
[09:46] <grout_work> jeanjean: any idea?
[09:46] <kitche7> sonics: it's because how windows see the fonts it writes them as they are suppose to be
[09:46] <jeanjean> grout_work, nope, I installed it once and it works perfect
[09:47] <EmxBA> can someone for god sake send me /var/lib/dpkg/lock to emx@info.ba ?
[09:47] <sonics> kitche7: is there anything I can do about it?
[09:47] <SB|nblracer> What are "defualt" options mean in FSTAB?, What should i set it to for a ext3 part for all users?
[09:47] <grout_work> jeanjean can I pm you?
[09:47] <SB|nblracer> What dose auto do in Ftab?
[09:47] <jeanjean> grout_work,
[09:47] <webben> sonics: how are they seeing them? are these in text documents? web pages? on IRC?
[09:47] <POVaddct> sonics: because you send umlauts with utf-8 encoding and they expect iso8859-* encoding i guess
[09:47] <jeanjean> grout_work, ok no problem
[09:48] <sonics> POVaddct: that might be it... so theres nuffing i can do about it instead of changing my font here but then it wont look that good
[09:48] <sonics> webben: whatcha mean?!
[09:48] <POVaddct> sonics: font and encoding are two different things
[09:49] <sonics> oh ok.. im sorry Im a bit new to all this stuff :D
[09:49] <PSUSI> senori: when you say they can't see them, how are they supposed to see them?  telepathy?  when you typed them in your question on irc just now I saw them just fine
[09:49] <sonics> what would you suggest me
[09:49] <sonics> ?
[09:49] <POVaddct> sonics: look if your client can set encoding to iso8859-*
[09:49] <sonics> im using irssi
[09:49] <Atomiku> So I cant use the CDROM to install ubuntu and im also having alot of trouble with the net install. Is it possible to download an image of an already installed ubuntu and copy it to a blank hard drive
[09:50] <POVaddct> sonics: irssi has a setting for that. i dont know where though :)
[09:50] <PSUSI> Atomiku: why cant you use the cdrom?
[09:50] <sonics> ill check their homepage..
[09:50] <sonics> thnx =)
[09:50] <cappe_> are there any good program that checks for vulns in the system? other than root kits..
[09:51] <Atomiku> Well, it cant boot DVDs and all I have is DVDrs
[09:51] <kitche7> sonics: it's in /home/<user>/.irssi
[09:51] <sonics> hm whats there...?!
[09:51] <DigitalNinja> can someone give me an IP address for a DNS server I can run a "dig" on?
[09:51] <PSUSI> Atomiku: so run to the corner drug store and pick up a cdr?
[09:51] <esj> any good pointers on how to create init.d scripts?
[09:51] <POVaddct> sonics: i think irssi can even convert encodings. so it can run in an utf-8 terminal while sending iso* to others
[09:52] <savje> I've got a divided rar archive, and need to unrar it but can't do it the 'ordinary' way, how do I do?
[09:52] <sonics> that would be great... does irssi without utf-8 even look good?
[09:52] <Atomiku> PSUSI: thats not the point
[09:52] <POVaddct> sonics: looks normal to me :)
[09:52] <sonics> :P
[09:52] <POVaddct> sonics: wanna see a screen shot?
[09:52] <Milkyy> Sound still isn't working.
[09:53] <sonics> yeah sure =D
[09:53] <sonics> why not
[09:53] <kitche7> sonics: utf-8 is just a encoding doesn't matter what the client looks like
[09:54] <sonics> - Change irssi encoding `/SET term_charset iso-8859-15`
[09:54] <sonics> is that it?
[09:54] <xipietotec> okay....ubuntu detects my camera but wont import photos from it
[09:54] <GigaClon> how can I type in japanese without change the default language
[09:54] <POVaddct> sonics: look pretty much like it
[09:54] <savje> I've got a divided rar archive, and need to unrar it but can't do it the 'ordinary' way, how do I do?
[09:54] <sonics> ah ok, looking nice too POV :)
[09:55] <GigaClon> try unraring the first
[09:55] <GigaClon> then point it to next in the seris when it asks
[09:55] <_asdy_> hello
[09:55] <sonics> POVaddct: ja koennen wir aber muss mich wohl irgendwo anmelden fuer queries
[09:55] <POVaddct> sonics: stimmt
[09:55] <_asdy_> when gdm opens the system blocks :(
[09:55] <cpk2> GigaClon: that would seem a bit tedious if there were say oh 50 rars =\
[09:56] <sonics> ich mach ma grad :)
[09:56] <cappe_> Milkyy: have a look at this site. it's the same problem discussed http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=340099
[09:56] <GigaClon> once it know the pattern it does the rest
[09:56] <_asdy_> keyboard and mouse blocked :S
[09:56] <_asdy_> if I push the shutdown button
[09:56] <_asdy_> the system shuts down with the normal Ubuntu screen
[09:57] <_asdy_> progress bar
[09:57] <_asdy_> I've even tried to format and reinstall :(
[09:57] <motin_> hey - I thought my memory card reader didnt work on my laptop, then i rebooted and found the SD-memory card mounted! I requires a reboot that is... but is there a way to manually "simulate" a reboot once dapper is up and running so that the device can be used?
[09:57] <_asdy_> what can I do?
[09:57] <pozdiy> I'm going to replace my CRT display with another, more recent one, what are the steps to proceed after connecting the new display? Or, will Dapper recognize new monitor on the fly?
[09:58] <DigitalNinja> Anyone in here know anything about DNS
[09:58] <DigitalNinja> list
[09:58] <cpk2> pozdiy: its supposed to recognize it but you might have to restart x
[09:58] <pozdiy> cpk2, tnx
[09:59] <xipietotec> okay, ubuntu recognizes my camera on auto-detect (a Canon Powershot A40) but gives me two errors when I try to import files from the flash card on it: First it tells me I have a bad parameters error in the driver, then it tells me "no images found"
[10:00] <_asdy_> what could I do? :(
[10:01] <xipietotec> I'm also getting a "lock keys failed" error
[10:01] <savje> I've got a divided rar archive, and when I try to unrar it I get the following error message: "Archivetype is not supported", do I need another unpacking program to unpack it?
[10:01] <Pierre> _asdy_, http://www.edginet.org/techie/linux/canon.html read only the last paragraph "Omniflash..." the rest is already done by ubuntu
[10:02] <cappe_> savje: try unrar from rarlabs... then issue this command: unrar e ~myuser/path_to_rar.rarX (take the first in the part-serie)
[10:03] <DeZusa> I have a question about installing Ubuntu on my laptop. Will I have to find drive routines for stuff after the installation to be able to use it. For example the dvd-drive, the usb port, the WLAN etc.
[10:03] <lampshade> drive routines?
[10:04] <cappe_> drivers =)
[10:04] <DeZusa> erm... I guess that's what I meant ;)
[10:04] <Ignatius> DeZusa: I doubt it.
[10:04] <xipietotec> Pierre: Should I use gphoto2 or the Compact Flash reader?
[10:04] <lampshade> I've not even heard of that?  What laptop?  Everything on my Dell 6000 worked including the media keys up front with zero config.  So depending on your laptop maybe, but if it is a popular brand... probably not.
[10:04] <Ignatius> DeZusa: mine worked out of the box.
[10:04] <lampshade> err I meant
[10:04] <lampshade> whoops
[10:04] <Pierre> xipietotec, ah wrong nick before, the mount part
[10:04] <lampshade> haha I meant that if it is a popular brand you will probably NOT have to config stuff
[10:05] <DeZusa> It's an Acer
[10:05] <lampshade> what wireless? on it do you know off the top of your head?  Like Intel or anything like that?  That's usually the hardest step because after you get wireless if there are other things you need to install they are usually downloadable and installable very easily
[10:05] <xipietotec> err.....so I need to write that script and what not and create all the necessary files, etc.?
[10:06] <lampshade> what type of acer anyway?
[10:06] <cappe_> you won't have to pic drivers and install them as you are used to in Windows... most of the drivers will come and will be installed and setup by the Ubuntu-installation program
[10:06] <Pierre> xipietotec, mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/uno is the important part
[10:06] <xipietotec> okay, cool! =)
[10:06] <Pierre> xipietotec, and to check that your device is listed in /proc (the cat... cmd)
[10:06] <kmaynard> anyone run parallels?
[10:07] <kmaynard> !parallels
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <kmaynard> hmm
[10:07] <xipietotec> mount point /mnt/uno does not exist
[10:07] <Pierre> xipietotec, the rest is to mount it automatically using the right parameter
[10:07] <profoX`> xipietotec: create it first with mkdir
[10:07] <profoX`> xipietotec: sudo mkdir /mnt/uno
[10:07] <DeZusa> I don't know what brand the hardware is, but the standard is the usual 802.11 b/g
[10:07] <lampshade> well yeah,
[10:07] <Ademan> if looks like my edgy upgrade is gonna fail, i'm gonna reinstall from the full install cd on the 26th, what of my computer *should* i back up besides my home folder? anything really? or would i be fine?
[10:08] <lampshade> DeZusa: But like it needs drivers and I know certain drivers are included by default.  Like my intel centrino wireless was zero config as well.  It autodetected and I was on the net instantly
[10:08] <profoX`> Ademan: all your currently installed packages maybe
[10:08] <Ignatius> wpa is another thing, though?
[10:08] <profoX`> and maybe some files in /etc
[10:08] <profoX`> like config files
[10:09] <Ademan> profoX`: I have no problem reinstalling the packages
[10:09] <Ademan> but like...
[10:09] <Ademan> yeah i was thinking config
[10:09] <profoX`> Ademan: ya, maybe /etc then.. ?
[10:09] <DeZusa> well, I wouldn't know. My primary connection is LAN, though. It should get that...
[10:09] <Ademan> all of /etc ?
[10:09] <profoX`> Ademan: /etc contains many config files
[10:09] <DeZusa> after I'm connected through that I should be able to find out what I need, right?
[10:09] <profoX`> Ademan: you won't need all, but there's some stuff in it that you might want to keep
[10:09] <www2> can som one tell me how can i lisend to the shoutcast stream with xmms uder ubuntu?
[10:10] <profoX`> Ademan: systemwide configuration for some programs
[10:10] <ambimom> xipietotec: I have same camera and had no problems with flash card
[10:10] <Ademan> profoX`: well yeah, but i can't think of any specific config files i need other than my sources.list, and i generated that with source-o-matic... so i dunno...
[10:10] <xipietotec> ah crap....that mounted my usb hard drive
[10:10] <xipietotec> not my camera
[10:10] <profoX`> Ademan: ye well.. your /home is most important.. so i guess you're fine
[10:11] <profoX`> what are you scared of for losing?
[10:11] <cappe_> drag and drop the .pls-file to the playlist in xmms then just hit "play" =)
[10:11] <Ademan> nothing really, just wanna make it as little time between the re-install and being up and running
[10:11] <xipietotec> which was allready mounted to another place
[10:11] <lampshade> DeZusa: yeah, I would bet you are pretty good to go.  If you want, you can always google around for your laptop's model name and such and see if you see any problems with Ubuntu and such.   I don't know.  You can always throw in a live cd and see what is detected and what isn't.
[10:11] <ccb> hi all - friend of mine installed ubuntu 6.06 on ppc 4 12 inch. wiped out osx and now cannot seem to boot from cd rom any ideas?
[10:11] <lampshade> DeZusa: the live cd won't change your hd or anything so you can try it out and then eject the cd when done and you will be back to windows.
[10:12] <Wite_Casul> can someone please tell me how to set evironmental variables/ paths up in ubuntu?
[10:12] <DeZusa> what exactly is meant by a live cd? is that like running the OS from the disk?
[10:12] <Wite_Casul> for example, I'd want to change the java path that the system comes with to a java installation I installed in a different place
[10:12] <cappe_> export PATH=PATH:/more/folders
[10:12] <Ademan> Wite_Casul: dpkg-configure-alternatives or something
[10:12] <savje> I've downloaded rarlabs unraring tool, but can't figuring out how to use it ( newbie :) )
[10:13] <savje> plz help...
[10:13] <Wite_Casul> thanks :)
[10:13] <lampshade> savje: Have you tried just the nonfree version of rar that is in the repos?
[10:14] <xipietotec> now after unplugging my usb hard drive I get "error: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"
[10:14] <porkpie__> guy's whats the command to find out  .....how many cpu's have been detected
[10:14] <constrictor> besides Dia does anyone know any other modelling software out there?
[10:14] <lampshade> savje: might want to try that,  I usually have better luck with it.
[10:14] <Ademan> constrictor: you're talking about UML?
[10:14] <Splittor> umbrello will do UML
[10:14] <constrictor> yes
[10:15] <savje> lampshade: a bit to much linux-tech-talk for me there... do you mean the unziping tool that follow with the standard installation of ubuntu?
[10:15] <xipietotec> help :(
[10:15] <constrictor> thanks i'll look into it
[10:15] <Ademan> umbrello is good
[10:15] <Ademan> i'm pretty sure openoffice draw has some VERY BASIC uml caps
[10:15] <niko7865> savje: i think you can only unrar from the command line, have you tried that?
[10:15] <xipietotec> I think I broke it
[10:16] <constrictor> how UML modelling software for gnome?
[10:16] <savje> niko: I figured out that it's only commandline :) but can figuring out how...
[10:16] <cappe_> savje: type wget http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.6.0.tar.gz or surf there. then download it, and tar zxvf file.tar.gz then run "unrar" program with ./unrar e file.rarX (first of the partfiles)
[10:17] <iwkse> anybody can help me with ati 9800pro? i'm not able to load the fglrx module..i get module fglrx.ko not found....
[10:18] <Ademan> constrictor: Dia is GNOME software, or at the very least Gtk, dunno if its technically part of the GNOME project though
[10:18] <savje> cappe: sorry, first day of linux/ubuntu so I don't know how to do even the most basic stuff... could you explain the "run "unrar" program with ./unrar e file.rarX (first of the partfiles)" part a bit more i detail?
[10:18] <xipietotec> Okay so here's the current problem: I have a camera which is persona-non-grata to my computer, ubuntu auto-detects it as the correct camera type, now I tried using mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/uno, but I had my usb HD plugged in when I did this and it remapped my usb hard drive to that location, but does not recognize my camera as /dev/sda1
[10:19] <constrictor> Ademan: yeah i've tried it and it's suits my purpose i was just wondering if there was another alternative, i'm researching at the moment
[10:19] <cappe_> savje: have you extract the files from the arhive?
[10:19] <justmike> hi everyone  -- i am new to Ubuntu and running version 6.06 from the live cd.  I cannot get firefox to start.
[10:19] <lampshade> savje: basically in the repos there are two versions of rar.  One that is "free" because of licensing and one that is "nonfree" although both cost 0 dollars.  Personally I switched to the nonfree one and have been good with that.  Seems to open files the other can't.  It depends how you feel about restrictions with licensing, but it might be worth a shot.
[10:20] <savje> cappe: yes, if you mean the archive which I downloaded from rarlabs...
[10:20] <Daviey> Does anybody know how to go about setting up QOS on ubuntu?
[10:20] <ww2> Hey, does the open source ATI driver have 3d acceleration?
[10:20] <lampshade> ww2: no
[10:20] <jazzygm_uk> anyone know how to move the screen so I can get about 30 pixels back - they hang off the left side!
[10:20] <cappe_> savje: yes. ok enter that folder then type ./unrar and see what happends.. if it's starting at all..
[10:21] <lampshade> ww2: or... I think it might have some but it is minimal so you need to use the binary driver for most 3d things.
[10:21] <savje> cappe: in the terminal? :-/
[10:21] <cappe_> savje: yup that program is a console-application
[10:21] <ww2> lampshade, well... anyway you can "swap drivers" in an easy way? Cause I'm running XGL/Beryl and want to play 3d games aswell... but I'm having some instability issues. Heard the fglrx drivers may be the cause and that open source drivers would be more stable.
[10:22] <savje> cappe: yes, it prints a kind of command list
[10:22] <spiderworm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279705 <--- anyone have any ideas?
[10:22] <cappe_> savje: then type ./unrar e _path_to_rarfiles/rarfile.r00
[10:23] <ww2> lampshade: or... with the open source drivers I could install AIGLX, which is supposed to be more stable than XGL
[10:23] <lampshade> ww2: ?  I don't think you can play 3d games with the os drivers.  I could be wrong, but as far as  I know you want to use the fglrx drivers.  What you might want to do is enter it without the special 3d desktop stuff on which.  You'll still be using the fglrlx drivers but your desktop won't be using the 3d card.  That'd be my guess because when I play Quake III with XGL Beryl stuff on it chokes hard
[10:24] <lampshade> ww2: like the way I have mine setup is that XGL and Beryl are on only when I want them to be.  I have to log on under "XGL"  and otherwise they are off--like right now
[10:24] <ww2> lampshade: thanks, but I want to ue the 3d stuff really, just installed it =D
[10:24] <porkpie__> guy's is the command cpuid or something like that to see how many cpu's are installed
[10:24] <ww2> lampshade, it's not involuntary or anything
[10:24] <ww2> lampshade, I didnt mean that
[10:24] <strabes> lampshade: i have the same setup. when you want to play quake or some other game, can't you use the beryl settings program to switch to metacity?
[10:24] <Wite_Casul> waugh, what the hell
[10:25] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone know when etch is comming out?
[10:25] <eddie_> trying to get sound working in ubuntu how should troubleshoot
[10:25] <Wite_Casul> my /etc/environment file is read only/permission denied. is it supposed to be like that?
[10:25] <ww2> lampshade, I mean... a way to have BOTH drivers installed or "semi-installed" and use one or another depending on what you want to do. So, if you are running XGL/Beryl, you use open source drivers. If you want to play a 3d game, you use proprietary drivers.
[10:25] <lampshade> strabes: probably now... I'm new to the beryl setttings program.  I used to be runnign the old Quinn Storm packages in which case I couldn't do that so I'm used to logging on and off for that sort of stuff.
[10:25] <constrictor> eddie_: what is the problem with your sound?
[10:25] <savje> cappe: thanks! it seams to be working! 8-)
[10:26] <eddie_> constrictor: there is none, lol
[10:26] <cappe_> savje: great, enjoy
[10:26] <savje> lampshade: how do I install the nonfree unziping tool?
[10:26] <totall_6_7> Wite_Casul: yes it is, try sudo gedit
[10:26] <Daviey> DigitalNinja, etch = december
[10:26] <constrictor> any particular file type or no sound out all including system sounds?
[10:26] <lampshade> etch?
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> Daviey: Thanks!
[10:26] <lampshade> or edgy?  Cause Edgy is October 26
[10:26] <lampshade> right?
[10:26] <Agrajag> etch is the next version of debian
[10:27] <DaBuss> Hey all, i'm runnin a distro of Ubuntu, i'm at kermel 2.6.15, and would like to upgrade to 2.6.18, I was wondering if there was a way to do this without compling the kernel myself(as i do not the the configure options), but i have tried Synaptic, and apt-get and they only have the linux-image up to 2.6.15, even after i do a apt-get update
[10:27] <eddie_> constrictor: yes no system sounds or file sounds e.g. mp3 and what not...I have all the codecs installed properly
[10:27] <cappe_> savje: if you want to extract the files to an other place then the directory you are in issue this command: ./unrar x path_to_file.rar00 /path/to/where/to/extract
[10:27] <Daviey> DigitalNinja, Edge = Debian Edgy = Ubuntu
[10:27] <lampshade> Oh, I thought that had come out already for debian... oh cool.
[10:27] <DigitalNinja> lampshade: Maybe I was thinking of Edgy
[10:27] <strabes> lampshade: oh. so I take it you have beryl-manager and the xmodmap set to start up with gnome? you can switch to metacity without logging off by right clicking on the beryl icon in the notification area. that should free up your video card's 3d
[10:27] <constrictor> was soundcard detected?
[10:27] <xipietotec> this is what dmesg is printing out whenever I try to mount my camera as a device: [17198707.484000]  usb 1-1: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd gthumb rqt 192 rq 4 len 88 ret -75
[10:27] <Wite_Casul> totall_6_7: I get a Gtk-WARNING, and gedit doesn't open
[10:27] <DigitalNinja> Daviey: I was thinking of Edgy
[10:28] <strabes> digitalninja: yeah. it's edgy and it comes out the 26th of october. 1 week!
[10:28] <Daviey> DigitalNinja, Oct 26th then
[10:28] <lampshade> strabes: yeah now I do.  NOt originally though.
[10:28] <sgruber> how do I get my Encore USB wireless-G adapter to work?
[10:28] <eddie_> constrictor: im nearly certain
[10:28] <strabes> lampshade: ok cool.
[10:28] <constrictor> DidgitalNinja: i just upgraded to edgy
[10:28] <lekikui> hate to bug people, but could someone give me a hand with something? My wireless card has stopped working since the beginning of today. Device manager tells me I have a Netgear MA311 802.11b
[10:28] <Daviey> Who will upgrade as soon as it's released?!!?
[10:28] <fbc> What synaptics package should I load to get the java runtime? Liveperson.net keeps telling me to load it.
[10:28] <DigitalNinja> strabes: I just got into Dapper. In one week I need to upgrade? When will the battel end
[10:28] <ubutom> im on edgy too :)
[10:28] <sgruber> how do I get my Encore USB wireless-G adapter to work?
[10:29] <Daviey> DigitalNinja, I'm staying the Dapper for a bit - there's more support.  Especially if you want to add extra repo's
[10:29] <eddie_> constrictor: what do you think the next logical step should be
[10:29] <silox> hey how do i Record VOIP (SIP) in Ubuntu Linux?
[10:29] <strabes> digitalnina: you don't necessarily HAVE to upgrade. you can easily though by just backing up your entire home folder. you can also upgrade without formatting but i dont like doing that
[10:29] <eddie_> constrictor: for my sound
[10:29] <savje> cappe: ok, I was wondering where the file did go... btw, is there any way I can add these programs (rar unrar etc) to the standard commandlist, so I can use it folder independent?
[10:29] <Daviey> silox, what softphone are you using?
[10:29] <DigitalNinja> Daviey: I see. I'll put together a test box and see how she handles
[10:29] <constrictor> in your sound settings, is sounds set to autodetect
[10:29] <constrictor> ?
[10:30] <fbc> What synaptics package should I load to get the java runtime? Liveperson.net keeps telling me to load it.
[10:30] <silox> Davie Twinkle
[10:30] <constrictor> or have you specified what sound card to use
[10:30] <eddie_> constrictor: how would I set this
[10:30] <DigitalNinja> Daviey: Got to take the new stuff out for a test drive
[10:30] <Daviey> savje, have you looked at unfoo (my life would be stuck without it)
[10:30] <lampshade> savje: If you have the extra repos installed you an just use Synaptic to install the programs (Under System >> Administration) or on the command line with sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:30] <constrictor> ok
[10:30] <lampshade> savje: if you don't have the extra repos you will have to install it first.
[10:30] <silox> daviey twinkle
[10:30] <totall_6_7> Wite_Casul: sorry no clue maybe someone else can answer for you
[10:31] <DigitalNinja> unfoo???
[10:31] <Daviey> DigitalNinja, yeah, i'm latest and greatest normally.  For my server i'll stick with Dapper, might change the desktop machine tho
[10:31] <constrictor> eddie_ in sytem -> preferences -> sound click on devices tab and see what the settings are
[10:31] <sgruber> I need some help with my wireless lan
[10:31] <savje> daviey: what's unfoo?
[10:31] <Wite_Casul> can someone ples tell me why gedit's giving me a Gtk warning when I try to start it from terminal?
[10:31] <constrictor> daviey: i upgraded to edgy only today
[10:31] <Wite_Casul> it works fine when I open a .java file
[10:31] <savje> lampshade: ok, thanks I'll look in to that, (sometime :) )
[10:32] <DaBuss> Hey all, i'm runnin a distro of Ubuntu, i'm at kermel 2.6.15, and would like to upgrade to 2.6.18, I was wondering if there was a way to do this without compling the kernel myself(as i do not the the configure options), but i have tried Synaptic, and apt-get and they only have the linux-image up to 2.6.15, even after i do a apt-get update
[10:32] <Daviey> unfoo is a wrapper script for zip, rar, ace and tar
[10:32] <cappe_> savje: try export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/home/myusername/path_to_rar_folder/
[10:32] <constrictor> and it's been seamless so far
[10:32] <DigitalNinja> Daviey: I'll put here in 64bit mode and floor it :)
[10:32] <silox> Anyone know how to Record VOIP SIP calls in Ubuntu Linux :/ ??
[10:32] <fbc> What synaptics package should I load to get the java runtime? Liveperson.net keeps telling me to load it.
[10:32] <eddie_> constrictor: cheers :) sorted
[10:32] <lampshade> savje: heh, I know, it is kinda overwhelming at first, but lots of stuff you only do once.  Like adding the new repos.  From then on you don't ever need to do that.
[10:32] <jazzygm> can anyone recommend a decent c++ IDE, I want something a bit more pro-active than xemacs (colour coding, better auto-layout etc)
[10:32] <constrictor> eddie: cool
[10:32] <sgruber> can anybody help me with my wireless connection
[10:32] <lampshade> jazzygm: Anjuta maybe?
[10:33] <lampshade> jazzygm: heh, or vim
[10:33] <constrictor> sgruber: what is the problem with your card?
[10:33] <sgruber> I have a USB device
[10:33] <constrictor> sorry connection :-)
[10:33] <lampshade> ubotu: !java
[10:33] <constrictor> ok
[10:33] <Daviey> Unfoo: http://obsoleet.org/code/unfoo/  plonk it in /usr/bin/unfoo and type "unfoo archieve.rar"
[10:33] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:33] <segfault_> jazzygm, there are plenty but xemacs (and gvim) will both do color
[10:33] <savje> cappe: what will that command do? "export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/home/myusername/path_to_rar_folder/"
[10:33] <sgruber> the system won't see it as a connection in network preferneces
[10:33] <constrictor> and is it detected when you plug it in?
[10:33] <DaBuss> any takers on my dilema with upgrading the kernel
[10:34] <cappe_> savje: or do like this: sudo cp /path/to/rar/unrar /usr/local/bin and also the same command but for "rar"
[10:34] <Ademan> how do i find out my current Xorg version?
[10:34] <fbc> What synaptics package should I load to get the java runtime? Liveperson.net keeps telling me to load it.
[10:34] <constrictor> sgruber: go to system -> admin -> devices and see if your device has been detected
[10:35] <Carnage\> fbc: sun-java5-bin
[10:35] <Carnage\> or prolly sun-java5-jre
[10:35] <lampshade> how do you make ubotu tell people things
[10:35] <Daviey> Ademan, /usr/bin/Xorg -version
[10:35] <red|rain> Hi, how do I keep a package at a certain version? I made a .deb package of gaim beta 4, but synaptic wants to change it to beta3.
[10:35] <savje> cappe: in other words (I guess that cp means copy) all programs which is in "/usr/local/bin" is accessable fodler independent?
[10:35] <cappe_> savje: it will extend your PATH so that it will include the unrar and rar program when typing it in the console
[10:35] <lampshade> people do it to me a lot haha I feel left out not doing it to other people :-/
[10:36] <DaBuss> Hey all, i'm runnin a distro of Ubuntu, i'm at kermel 2.6.15, and would like to upgrade to 2.6.18, I was wondering if there was a way to do this without compling the kernel myself(as i do not the the configure options), but i have tried Synaptic, and apt-get and they only have the linux-image up to 2.6.15, even after i do a apt-get update
[10:36] <cappe_> savje: correct.
[10:36] <constrictor> DaBuss: the only way i know how you can upgrade is trying it from the edgy repos
[10:36] <Ademan> what version should i have if edgy installed correctly?
[10:36] <Daviey> DaBuss, what repo's are you using?
[10:36] <DaBuss> standard
[10:36] <constrictor> edgy
[10:36] <savje> cabbe: ok, and for all users? could I make it just for my user?
[10:36] <constrictor> because i upgraded only today
[10:36] <DaBuss> ill check, h/o a sec
[10:36] <red|rain> DaBuss, it's easy to complie the kernel, try following this guide.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657&highlight=kernel
[10:37] <DaBuss> i have no clue to what the options are tho
[10:37] <red|rain> DaBuss, you don't have to set any, it will use your current settings.
[10:37] <Daviey> Ademan, i *think* 1:7.1.1 what do you have?
[10:37] <red|rain> tho I do suggest changing the one for your CPU.
[10:38] <DaBuss> well, i didnt know that, sry for botherin you guys, n thx for the help
[10:38] <lekikui> hate to bug people, but could someone give me a hand with something? My wireless card has stopped working since the beginning of today. Device manager tells me I have a Netgear MA311 802.11b
[10:38] <red|rain> DaBuss, no probs ^_^
[10:38] <constrictor> in the wiki go to edgy and look for how to upgrade although you won't be upgrading it will tell you how to edit your sources.list
[10:39] <Daviey> Ademan, i say that because that is what is in the edgy repo http://tinyurl.com/y6xvwq
[10:39] <silox> how do i Record VOIP (SIP) in Ubuntu Linux?
[10:39] <CromagDK> record ?
[10:39] <cappe_> savje: well then you have to have the program in your homedirectory and put it chmod -R 700 rarfolder/ then use the export command..
[10:39] <Daviey> silox, what application are you using!!!
[10:40] <Ademan> Daviey: 7.0.0 so my upgrade failed lol
[10:40] <silox> Daviey i said that before, Twinkle..
[10:40] <lekikui> hate to bug people, but could someone give me a hand with something? My wireless card has stopped working since the beginning of today. Device manager tells me I have a Netgear MA311 802.11b
[10:40] <Daviey> silox, sorry i missed that
[10:40] <constrictor> lekikui: and you dont have a netgear?
[10:41] <silox> Daviey thats ok ^^ so u know how to do it?
[10:41] <savje> cabbe: ok, thanks again!
[10:41] <savje> If I run unrar from usr/bin/ will the unzipped file be put in the /usr/bin/ folder or in the folder where the zipped file is?
[10:42] <Bergcube> I need an advice on what aplication to use...  I want to turn a series of images into a PDF file.  I could of course make a document in OOo with one page pr image.  But I hope there might be a more direct method.  Any tips, clever people?
[10:42] <cappe_> it will be put where the .rar-files are if you issue unrar e else it will be put where you want it to with unrar x file.rar00 /path/to/a/directory/where/i/wanna/exctract :)
[10:42] <nicolas9510> .
[10:43] <cappe_> /path/to/a/directory/where/i/wanna/exctract/to :) makes more sence
[10:43] <bensr20det> Hello, sorry if this has been addressed but I am unable to do any updates. When I open the window to view the updates I need it says "Failed to download the list of changes. Please check your Internet connection." in the details. But I am online as you can all tell.
[10:43] <Daviey> silox, Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto  Although it is targeted towards skype, it should still work.  You need to make a virtual sound device to act in the middle between the microphone and Twinkle
[10:44] <savje> cappe: ok!
[10:44] <silox> Daviey ok thx
[10:44] <constrictor> bensr20det: are you behind a firewall?
[10:44] <constrictor> or proxy?
[10:44] <savje> cappe: you don't possibly know where and how I can install the perfect codec-pack?
[10:44] <bensr20det> no proxy and the only firewall is in my router
[10:45] <cappe_> savje: you wont need that if you have VLC :)
[10:45] <sgruber> can somebody help me with my wireless connection?
[10:45] <erUSUL> !wifi
[10:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:46] <Seeker2599> whats the command to extract a .tar.bz2
[10:46] <Daviey> silox, Sorry they have used a specific tool for that.  This might be better http://porpoisehead.net/hi/?q=node/23
[10:46] <mjr> tar xjf foo.tar.bz2
[10:46] <erUSUL> Seeker2599: tar xf
[10:46] <Seeker2599> ty
[10:46] <savje> cappe: yes I know, cause I got VLC but the video file I try to play is all black, there is sound though (which often points to a codec problem)
[10:47] <Seeker2599> wait xf or xjf?
[10:47] <jelly> Hi, does ubuntu's kernel have support for vmwarefb?
[10:47] <bensr20det> constrictor: this is the error message I get when I try to download them anyway "Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[10:47] <ww2> Hey... is it a good idea to upgrade from Firefox (Swiftfox actually) 1.5.0.7 to RC3? Faster, slower?
[10:47] <cappe_> savje: have you tried it with MPlayer ?
[10:48] <killown> hello ! how I do to configure xorg in ubuntu?
[10:48] <erUSUL> killown: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:48] <constrictor> bensr20det: did you touch your source.list file?
[10:49] <killown> thanks
[10:49] <anon32> question: how do I create a Video DVD? can I just copy mpeg files to a VIDEO_TS folder?
[10:49] <savje> cappe: no, but with totem (with no codecs installed) so it was not suprising that it did not work...
[10:49] <savje> cappe: how do I run Mplayer?
[10:49] <bensr20det> constrictor: not that I can remember
[10:49] <anon32> savje, um, type mplayer in a terminal?
[10:50] <riddlebox> savje, applications-->sound/video I believe
[10:50] <bensr20det> constrictor: also I do have firestarter firewall but it is disabled
[10:50] <erUSUL> anon32: try qdvdauthor
[10:50] <HumanPrototype> how do i uninstall the gnome network manager?
[10:50] <anon32> erUSUL, can I just do it manually?
[10:51] <constrictor> go to system -> admin -> software sources and see if there's anything out of the ordinary there
[10:51] <Luke> I have gnome-screensaver... how do I get it to turn off my monitors backlight when the screen goes blank?
[10:51] <savje> anon & riddlebox: :) meent of course install when I say "run" :P
[10:51] <savje> but I've found it now
[10:52] <bensr20det> I dont have software sources but i do have software properties and the package manager
[10:52] <cappe_> what's the command of disabling the PC-beep in ubuntu?? i used setbfreq 0 in another distribution..
[10:52] <erUSUL> anon32: manually? from comand line?
[10:53] <bensr20det> and so you know I am a bit new to ubuntu and linux
[10:53] <anon32> erUSUL, no.. manually as in with a generic DVD recording app
[10:53] <Luke> cappe_: xset -b
[10:53] <anon32> no fancy scripts
[10:53] <totall_6_7> Luke: how do you get to screensaver settings?
[10:53] <Daviey> Can anybody tell me how to use the shell command 'date' to output including milliseconds?
[10:54] <cappe_> savje: did you have mplayer at all?
[10:54] <Luke> totall_6_7: through the settings menu
[10:54] <erUSUL> anon32: qdvdauthor is a graphic app not a fancy script if that's what you mean. the gnomebaker from backports can do it iirc but i never tried
[10:54] <anon32> erUSUL, it's a script....
[10:54] <anon32> a video DVD has something to do with a special file used as a flag... but don't remember how that works
[10:54] <totall_6_7> Luke: If you look in the settings menu you will see Power Managment, that should answer your screen question
[10:55] <Caesar> Hey does anyone have a dapper installation that has /var on a separate filesystem?
[10:55] <Caesar> Just wondering how resolvconf goes for you...
[10:55] <erUSUL> anon32: i have it installed and running qdvdauthor is a graphicall app. period
[10:55] <anon32> erUSUL, scripts can be graphical
[10:56] <jc> Hi
[10:56] <erUSUL> anon32: http://qdvdauthor.sourceforge.net/
[10:56] <Stuttitown> Hi, jc
[10:56] <anon32> erUSUL, I'm using the word script in a broad sense, as in any app that's intended for convenience
[10:56] <jc> Does someone know how to set up a TV out on Ubuntu?
[10:57] <Daviey> jc, Doesn't it just WORK?
[10:57] <Tjoels> how can i decompress .rar files?
[10:57] <gavagai> I need to burn a cd from console.  How do i find the dev information for my cd burner?  sudo cdrecord -scanbus just returns a bunch of warnings about how my kernel is too new, this isn't the official cdrecord, etc
[10:57] <gavagai> Tjoels, unrar
[10:58] <jc> I'd like it to....but it doesn't seem to
[10:58] <savje> cappe: no, but I installed it and it could run my file :D thank you for all the help! good nigth (or morning, noon, evning depending on the time :P)
[10:58] <Tjoels> gavagai: thx
[10:58] <totall_6_7> tv-out > jc
[10:58] <spiderworm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279705 <--- anyone have any ideas?
[10:58] <cappe_> savje: cheers enjoy your movie :) (it's night time in sweden)
[10:58] <nick1> does anyone know what the generic kernal is? i used to have -686 but now their is only -386 and -generic
[10:59] <savje> cappe: haha, ja det r ntt dr jag bor ocks (Uppsala)...
[10:59] <raintheory> spiderworm,   that's an odd one
[10:59] <savje> oj natt inte ntt
[10:59] <jc> Hey Hey
[10:59] <cappe_> fan ska vi gra som dom dr spansktalande bottarna frut lr?? Haha sg du det? Klockrent
[10:59] <Unforgiving> [cappe_] : retardado
[10:59] <savje> nej det sg jag itne, vad gjorde dom?
[11:00] <totall_6_7> jc did ubotu message you?
[11:00] <raintheory> is there a list of the various ubuntu channels somewhere?
[11:00] <bun-bun> !se
[11:00] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:00] <jc> what does ubuntu message me mean?
[11:00] <spiderworm> raintheory: yah, but you'll notice that if you search the forums, there's a lot of people reporting similar troubles
[11:00] <Goomie> I have a duel monitor question if someone can help me?
[11:01] <gavagai> can anyone in here tell me how to burn an ISO from the console?
[11:01] <totall_6_7> !tv-out
[11:01] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[11:01] <IcemanV9> !tv-out > jc
[11:01] <nick1> !kernal
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <raintheory> totall_6_7,    what video card you got?
[11:01] <totall_6_7> ahhhh thanks IcemanV9
[11:01] <wimpies> I want to use bash instead of dash as shell. what is the correct (cleanest) way to do this ?
[11:01] <bun-bun> !kernel > nick1
[11:02] <jc> thks for your help, I'll check it out!
[11:02] <Daviey> gavagai, http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/#toc5
[11:02] <gavagai> thanks
[11:02] <jewbilee> can anyone tell me how to make something run on startup?  like gaim
[11:02] <totall_6_7> raintheory: its not me its jc, i was just attempting to use the > command but messed it up
[11:02] <raintheory> totall_6_7,   aha
[11:02] <raintheory> totall_6_7,   sorry  ;)
[11:02] <gavagai> Daviey, those directions don't seem to work on current ubuntu, the scanbus step is broken
[11:02] <BoyBach> can anyone help, I have set-up a share on my windows machine on the network how do I connect to it ??
[11:02] <raintheory> jc,   what card you using?
[11:03] <gavagai> doesn't return my device info, anyway, just a bunch of warnings about the kernel and how this version of the software is modded
[11:03] <totall_6_7> raintheory: thanks anyways :D
[11:03] <IcemanV9> !samba > BoyBach
[11:03] <jewbilee> can anyone tell me how to make something run on startup?  like gaim
[11:03] <nick1> oops, thanks bun-bun
[11:03] <jc> an ATI
[11:03] <jc> ATI 9200
[11:03] <bun-bun> np nick1 )
[11:03] <AsheD> stoopid Evolution
[11:03] <jewbilee> can anyone tell me how to make something run on startup?  like gaim
[11:04] <HumanPrototype> jewbilee, in gnome?
[11:04] <jewbilee> yea
[11:04] <cappe_> jewbilee: try this command $ echo exec ubuntu >> .xinitrc
[11:04] <nick1> jewbilee:  System > preferences > sessions > startupprograms
[11:04] <cappe_> jewbilee: try this command $ echo exec ubuntu >> ~myusername/.xinitrc (even)
[11:04] <jewbilee> i got it
[11:04] <jewbilee> thanks nick1
[11:04] <cappe_> opz not ubuntu.. gaim
[11:04] <raintheory> jc, sorry i might be able to help if it was nVidia...    havent experimented with ATI Tv-out yet
[11:04] <Daviey> BoyBach, what happens when you go to Places -> Network Servers?
[11:04] <SB|nblracer> Under the device manger, my video card comes up as PCI when its AGP
[11:04] <raintheory> jc, good luck though
[11:05] <jc> thks
[11:05] <jstarcher> how can I copy multiple files without having to do them individually?
[11:06] <BoyBach> I have not got network servers
[11:06] <kmaynard> why is it different to do on ubuntu?
[11:06] <kmaynard> wait, never mind
[11:06] <kmaynard> my irc was stuck waaaaaaay back
[11:06] <nick1> jstarcher: using command line?
[11:06] <jstarcher> nick1: yes
[11:06] <ww2> jsleeper, well, I'm no expert, but you can use wildcards (e.g. *)
[11:07] <Daviey> BoyBach, Your using Ubuntu with Gnome right?  If you click Places then go to Network Servers does it come up empty?
[11:07] <BoyBach> no windows network
[11:07] <Daviey> BoyBach, I don't understand what you mean
[11:07] <SB|nblracer> raintheory dose your video card come up at PCI?
[11:07] <BoyBach> wicked didnt know that was there
[11:07] <BoyBach> sorry found it.
[11:08] <BoyBach> thank you.
[11:08] <Daviey> BoyBach, is it showing your share?
[11:08] <BoyBach> yeah
[11:08] <nick1> jstarcher: if they're all in the same folder you can just copy them all with * , like cp /dir/mystuff/* /newdir/mystuff/*
[11:08] <SB|nblracer> raintheory I too have an ATI rage with videoout, and my issuie is it comes up as PCI not AGP
[11:08] <Daviey> BoyBach, from there you should be able to mount it (if you want)
[11:09] <raintheory> SB|nblracer,   nope, but mine is a nVidia card actually.
[11:09] <BoyBach> would mount do.
[11:09] <anon32> um, why does Ubuntu ship with restricted drivers?
[11:09] <raintheory> brb
[11:10] <bigmoe> i have installed ubuntu but there are no sounds i cant listen to anythng on it
[11:10] <jewbilee> anyone got an cool Ubuntu tips or tricks to share with me since im a noob at it?
[11:10] <bigmoe> could anyone help me!!
[11:10] <anon32> perhaps I should have said - why does Ubuntu ship with non-free drivers?
[11:10] <jstarcher> nick1: yeah but I don't want all of them.... probably easiest to use a file manager?
[11:10] <Daviey> anon32, often they work best?
[11:10] <anon32> Daviey, but... the whole freedom argument...
[11:11] <ww2> anon32, because they are still needed by most consumer-level users, I suppose?
[11:11] <anon32> if you can ship non-free drivers, why not ship non-free codecs?
[11:11] <anon32> ww2, mm..
[11:11] <Daviey> anon32, but we are human beings (ie Ubuntu: linux for human beings)
[11:11] <sharms> anon32: codecs don't have a proper liscensee to run on linux
[11:11] <ww2> anon32, they are optional anyway... it's not like Ubuntu developers are trying to impose the use of proprietary stuff.
[11:11] <nick1> jstarcher: yeah, with the Ctrl button to keep the files you want selected
[11:11] <bigmoe> what about the audio drivers how can i know if they are working properly
[11:12] <nick1> jewbilee: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:12] <cappe_> bigmoe: lsmod |grep -i snd
[11:12] <Daviey> bigme, have a look at alsamixer
[11:12] <mikewinsdesk> i need help getting my ssh server to work, i think i accidently deleted some kind of openssh server file and now i cant ssh into it and when i press the start button on webmin it just refreshes the page
[11:12] <jstarcher> nick1: yep, thanks... why can't I select a range if I hold shift? (in Rox Filer anyway)
[11:12] <Driller> Anyone have any idea of how to list the users on sftpd? or whatever that ftp server is called? :)
[11:12] <mikewinsdesk> is there any way i can get it to work via webmin ?
[11:13] <lufis> Isn't Edgy supposed to be out soon?
[11:13] <mcdonaldswes> is there a way to control which kernel update-grub puts in option #0 without actually modifying the menu.lst file?
[11:13] <cappe_> please put DC++ in the standard installation of Edgy :)
[11:13] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, so a sudo apt-get remove ssh // then reinstall - see if that fixes it
[11:13] <bigmoe> cappe_: everything seem to be fine but still no sounds
[11:13] <graveson> what can i use to write my blog offline- i have a blog from wordpress
[11:13] <Driller> anyone? :>
[11:13] <nick1> jstarcher: i think you can selecte ranges with ctrl down too
[11:14] <Daviey> lufis, next week
[11:14] <bigmoe> cappe_: even when i installed xmms and other audio players nothing went wrong
[11:14] <jstarcher> nick1:  hmmm, I can't seem to get it to work :-(
[11:14] <lufis> Daviey: Oh, dear. I can't wait. :(
[11:14] <nick1> lufis: 26th?
[11:14] <yock> RC1 is out today
[11:14] <cappe_> bigmoe: then try alsamixer and see if you have enabled sound
[11:14] <leakd>  n8
[11:14] <Daviey> lufis, if you can't wait install it now ;)
[11:14] <dtygel> hi there
[11:14] <nick1> iv been using it for a while... waiting for 7.04 :)
[11:14] <yock> what th-...
[11:15] <ntfx> okay, I'm noob at this, I cant configure the xorg right after the installation and get it to work
[11:15] <dtygel> do you know how to install ubuntu through floppy and LAN (internet or another ubuntu machine)?
[11:15] <lufis> Daviey: Under normal circumstances I would but I've learned the hard way about installing beta software :P
[11:15] <Daviey> lufis, yeah - i'll probably leave it until christmas, wait for it to get real stable!
[11:15] <dtygel> CDRom isn't working: when booting from cdrom, it says "Kernel panic"
[11:16] <Daviey> dtygel, is it a bad burn?  Try it again
[11:16] <lufis> Daviey: Nah, not that long! I need my fix of new software. Just not too new ;)
[11:16] <dtygel> daviey: it's a good CD
[11:16] <dtygel> daviey: I've already installed dapper with this same CD in many machines. It's the computer which doesn't recognize the CDROM, it seems
[11:16] <Driller> Anyone have any idea of how to list the users on sftpd?
[11:16] <Daviey> dtygel, Is there any hardware in the box that is non-standard?
[11:17] <dtygel> daviey: so I thought about installing from internet, using floppy
[11:17] <Daviey> like debian's netinstall!  yeah i wish i had that
[11:17] <dtygel> daviey: I don't think so. It's an old machine: PIII 700MHZ, but everything is normal
[11:17] <mikewinsdesk> this is the error i get in webmin about ssh: The SSH server program /usr/sbin/sshd was not found on your system. Maybe SSHD is not installed, or your module configuration is incorrect.
[11:17] <dtygel> daviey: it's the first time I'm using it, so I didn't test any other system: there is no system
[11:18] <dtygel> daviey: exactly like debian's net-install
[11:18] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, did you try re-installing ssh?
[11:19] <menko> hi, when you use sudo/gksudo to open a program, what is the first file which is run before the program is started? I want to set some environment varibles before the application starts.
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> menko, move the executable and make a script in its place to set them then launch the prog
[11:20] <menko> HumanPrototype: I want it to affect all programs.
[11:20] <HumanPrototype> menko, what do you need to set?
[11:20] <mikewinsdesk> daviey, yes i did, and then i check to see if it was installed by trying to install it from the apt-get install under system - package management in webmin and it says package already installed
[11:21] <menko> HumanPrototype: I need to set the input modifier offf, because multiple instances of scim start otherwise.
[11:21] <sgruber> i need help using ndiswrapper
[11:21] <HumanPrototype> menko, could you do that at startup?
[11:21] <menko> HumanPrototype: I want it for the current user, but not for sudo.
[11:21] <mikewinsdesk> daviey, it only has 5 files listed for the ssh though seen here http://pastebin.ca/210612
[11:22] <mikewinsdesk> and there all directorys
[11:22] <mikewinsdesk> so somethings wrong
[11:22] <bigmoe> cappe_: the problem was with the oss mixer but thanks anyways
[11:22] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, what happens if you type 'ssh localhost' from shell will it allow you to login?  Don't use webmin whilst trying to sort it out
[11:22] <mikewinsdesk> its a remote computer, i dont have access to the shell
[11:23] <cappe_> ok that's good to know til the next question about disfunctional sound comes up
[11:23] <bigmoe> cappe_: do u know any audio and video player that can play anything
[11:23] <anon32> bigme, no
[11:23] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, there doesn't seem to be alot you can do then!  you really need access to ssh or console to fix it
[11:24] <anon32> bigmoe*: no
[11:24] <bigmoe> cappe_: like mp3 and acc or u can download the plugins
[11:24] <cappe_> bigmoe: vlc supports lots of filetypes... if it doesn't play it all maybe MPlayer for Linux will :)
[11:24] <G0oW> i have a QQ
[11:24] <sgruber> i can't use the 'make' command
[11:24] <Daviey> sgruber, do you have build-essentail installed?
[11:24] <G0oW> how can i edit terminal from "ubuntu@ubuntu" to something else?
[11:24] <mikewinsdesk> heh alright thanks for your help i guess ill have to go drive for a half and hr and fix it
[11:24] <bigmoe> what is a qq
[11:24] <G0oW> a question
[11:24] <cappe_> bigmoe: xmms should support mp3 :) (acc, im not sure)
[11:24] <bigmoe> cappe_: QQ?
[11:25] <akifemre> sgruber: sudo apt-get install make ?
[11:25] <G0oW> how can i edit terminal from "ubuntu@ubuntu" to something else?
[11:25] <G0oW> is my question
[11:25] <spiderworm> lol
[11:25] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, actually webmin allows you to sue a command shell
[11:25] <bigmoe> cappe_: can i download pluggins for xmms
[11:25] <lampshade> G0oW: the first is your username and the second part is your hostname that you can change in /etc/hostname
[11:25] <andrea> Hi everybody
[11:25] <G0oW> ty, lampshade
[11:26] <andrea> Need help for a laptop install. Can someone help me?
[11:26] <b03nto> quick one here... every time i compile kernel i always got something like this on boot "device-mapper: table: 253:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed", what's that mean ?
[11:26] <lampshade> G0oW: also, add in the new name of your machine to the /etc/hosts file next to 127.0.0.1 like localhost probably is already
[11:26] <Byan> how do I get a USB drive to work? it's on a server.. it works without me doing anything if gnome is installed.., and it might work fine without.. but I don't know where it gets mounted..
[11:26] <cappe_> bigmoe: try http://www.xmms.org/plugins.php
[11:26] <Byan> or maybe I have to mount it
[11:27] <raintheory> okay...   i have an older laptop with a broken CD-ROM///   I want to install xubuntu on it, but how would I go about this?   the ethernet connection is via pcmcia ..   and i cant boot it from usb or anything
[11:27] <lampshade> raintheory: eeeek
[11:27] <raintheory> lampshade, yep
[11:27] <ww2> A question: I've mounted two network drives using the CIFS protocol and the "ro" parameter (read only). The thing I can't u(n)mount them through Nautilus (gives me an error about only root being able to do that). I want to fix that but don't want to have read-write access. How?
[11:27] <dtygel> people: I cannot boot from CD in a PIII machine. In special options I removed "quiet splash" to know what's going on, and I saw that it hangs at: "checking if image is initramfs"
[11:27] <Daviey> Byan, probably /media/x
[11:27] <ww2> I meant "The thing is..."
[11:27] <Byan> Daviey: ok
[11:27] <andrea> I would like to avoid from installing grub on MBR. How can I dual-boot ubuntu & Winshit without touching it?
[11:28] <mikewinsdesk> daviey, yes but when i type in apt-get remove ssh it asks Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Abort. and i dont get to do any imput
[11:28] <mp3guy> I upgraded to flash 9, but lost my sound, using an audigy 4 with alsa and firefox, any idea how I get it back?
[11:28] <ww2> andrea, let me get a good howto for doing just that... give me a few secs
[11:28] <lampshade> mikewinsdesk: did you just copy paste that command in?
[11:28] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, i think you can force apt-get hang on let me check
[11:28] <andrea> ww2: thank you, I'll wait :-)
[11:29] <anon32> mp3guy, wait for the final?
[11:29] <mikewinsdesk> lampshade, no i wrote "apt-get remove ssh"
[11:29] <lampshade> hmmmmm
[11:29] <lampshade> mikewinsdesk: are you root or sudo?
[11:29] <Byan> Daviey: no, it's not there
[11:29] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk,  sudo apt-get remove  --assume-yes ssh
[11:29] <wimpies>  does dash support arrays ? I get a syntax error when doing x=( `ls` )
[11:29] <spiderworm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279705 <--- any ideas on fixing this?
[11:29] <Byan> lsusb doesm't return it either
[11:29] <mp3guy> anon32, theres no reason it'd work on nearly everyone elses installation and it wouldn't on mine, considering I had no problems at all with flash 7
[11:30] <Daviey> spiderworm, nobody can be bothered to check the link... if you give a bried description people might look
[11:30] <anon32> mp3guy, probably doesn't like some aspect of your software or hardware - but it's hard to pinpoint
[11:30] <mikewinsdesk> daviey, ok i did that, now do i just "sudo apt-get install ssh" ?
[11:30] <dtygel> hi all: what is the reason for booting hanging up while "checking if image is initramfs"?? from live cd...
[11:30] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, should do
[11:30] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, if that doesn't work it might be a good idea to remove with the added --purge to remove stored settings
[11:30] <mikewinsdesk> alright
[11:30] <osman> hi guys, not specifically a ubuntu question , just a general linux network question, i have a route on one nic and a cable modem on another, when they are both actiuve the route is replacing my defualt gateway , when I type routem can anyone tell me how to fix my routing table?
[11:31] <ww2> andrea, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=Dualboot+Two+Hard+Drives -- sorry for the delay
[11:31] <andrea> ww2, thank you so much, I'll take a look :-)
[11:31] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, gonna get a cup of tea, be right back
[11:32] <Driller> Anyone know how to set the homedir in pure-ftpd to "/
[11:32] <Driller> oops, set that dir to that only?
[11:32] <DexterF> hi
[11:32] <ww2> andrea, no problem =] 
[11:32] <jlacosse> Driller: you mean like chroot?
[11:33] <Luke> I have gnome-screensaver... how do I get it to turn off my monitors backlight when the screen goes blank?
[11:33] <jelly> Hi, I've installed xubuntu in a machine that didn't have pcmcia support.  I'm going to put it back into the laptop now.  What packages should I (re)install or start to make the system install all the necessary software for new hardware?
[11:33] <DexterF> how can I check by which udev rule a device node was assigned? e.g. what rule caused my scsi scanner to get the /dev/scanner symlink?
[11:33] <MystaMax> hello, how do I check a programs version info from the CLI, a program like apache or mysql
[11:33] <osman> MystaMax, --version
[11:33] <Daviey> MystaMax, normmally apache --version
[11:34] <dtygel> daviey: have you seen what happened? when I disabled "quiet" I saw this "checking if image is initramfs..": it hangs at this point. nothing happens. Any clue?
[11:34] <Driller> Does anyone know how to create a user in pure-ftpd, and sets its home dir to "/"
[11:34] <DexterF> MystaMax: dpkg, I think -L. maybe apt-show-version
[11:34] <Code-E> !alien > code-e
[11:34] <jelly> MystaMax: dpkg -s package will show you the package version (which is usually closely related to the program version)
[11:35] <jvai> is bastille needed for dapper's security? any1?
[11:35] <Code-E> Where do I download Alien Package converter. And why is it dangerous to use?
[11:35] <anon32> Code-E, apt-get install alien
[11:35] <Code-E> K
[11:35] <lampshade> or if you feel hardcore strings programname to get the version :)
[11:35] <anon32> it's dangerous because some packages are non-standard
[11:35] <NeoRedux> Anyone feel like taking the time to teach me how to compile and package programs, e.g. Gaim 2 Beta 4?
[11:35] <Code-E> And anon32 what would that do to my system?
[11:35] <DexterF> Code-E: you might get libraries meant for other distros into your system. could fsck up library linking.
[11:35] <anon32> Code-E, break the package pretty much
[11:35] <DexterF> conflicts.
[11:36] <DexterF> orphaned libs in weird locations
[11:36] <DexterF> the like
[11:36] <DexterF> Code-E: in general, I'd avoid if possible.
[11:36] <Code-E> :(
[11:36] <menko> hi, when you use sudo/gksudo to open a program, what is the first file which is run before the program is started? I want to set some environment varibles before the application starts.
[11:36] <DexterF> Code-E: what app are you after?
[11:36] <Code-E> But I wish to install gAIM from the one off the website
[11:36] <Code-E> It only has RPMs
[11:36] <ww2> Is there anyway I can setup Linux to autodetect if a network drive is connected or not? I have a main server here at home (with Windows only)... it provides internet access and I mount two of it's drives here in Ubuntu. I want the drives to be automatically unmounted if the server computer is shutdown. Possible?
[11:36] <Code-E> The one with ubuntu is the crap
[11:36] <mikewinsdesk> daviey, ok back to where i started at, i have it installed but when i press the start button it just refreshes the page
[11:37] <DexterF> huh? there should be gaim in a ubuntu repos
[11:37] <MystaMax> great, thanks osman, Daviey, DexterF, and jelly. the 'packagename' --version didn't seem to work with all. dpkg -s 'packagename' worked out for me. Thanks
[11:37] <NeoRedux> #Code-E, I tried using alien, and if you can figure out how to change .deb versions you can get it working.
[11:37] <nicolas9510> anyone know where the network file is? need to add a dns entry
[11:38] <sheriff_> what cd/dvd burner would u recommend ?
[11:38] <NeoRedux> Gnome Baker
[11:38] <DexterF> dpkg -c lists files of an installed package, right?
[11:38] <sheriff_> NeoRedux: thanks
[11:39] <Daviey> sheriff_, k3b, designed for KDE but works fine on ubuntu
[11:39] <johnny_> hello all
[11:39] <mikewinsdesk> here are the errors i get when i try to run "/etc/init.d/ssh start" http://pastebin.ca/210626
[11:40] <jared_> Has anyone in here used camserv to stream to the net....i can get it to work at all
[11:40] <DexterF> soemone happen to know how to rescan the scsi bus after turning a device on..?
[11:40] <fdoving> mikewinsdesk: you should not install ssl to /usr/local that way. it'll just mess things up.
[11:40] <eternalswd> how do I set up networking so that guestos in vmplayer is masked as my host?
[11:41] <mikewinsdesk> i should just remove ssl i dont need it anyhow
[11:41] <xxiik> hello everyone
[11:41] <grout>  I have an ubuntu lamp installation, and i made a php hello world app but when i go to it in my browser it shows the source and all
[11:41] <xxiik> i tried adjusting the sound the way people advice and now i can't record via the linein
[11:42] <xxiik> can anyone help me, please?
[11:42] <johnny_> i added a network printer to my ubuntu, the printer is running of a different pc that has xp on it... i added a network printer for ubuntu to connect... i did a print test page and my printer is not printing it and i am also geting a status saying Printing: Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds...   wwould anyone know how i may connect to the network printer?
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !lamp
[11:42] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:43] <lampshade> grout: hmmm ok, so something is messed up on either the httpd.conf or the php.ini  which is weird cause my default install just worked.  What happens if you do the good old fashioned <?php phpinfo(); ?>  thing? in a .php file?
[11:43] <lampshade> nothing I assume?
[11:43] <spiderworm> lampshade: if he does that, he'll see the php source again
[11:44] <spiderworm> grout: you dont have apache configured correctly
[11:44] <Penny83> Hi all!
[11:44] <sc0tt> hey folks
[11:44] <sc0tt> :>
[11:44] <grout> lampshade im checking
[11:44] <Penny83> Anyone know how can I backup my Mysql databases ?
[11:44] <lampshade> spiderworm: yeah I figured so much but I was using that as a test anyway  I guess it was kinda redundant
[11:44] <AsheD> anybody know why my Evolution keeps downloading the same files over and over?
[11:44] <Penny83> I messed up my system and I need to do an installation from scrathc...
[11:44] <Zerb_Riss> ARG
[11:45] <Zerb_Riss> can someone tell me how to shutdown X-Windows so I amk left at the command line?
[11:45] <Penny83> Zerb_Riss: try "sudo init 3"
[11:45] <cappe_> Zerb_Riss: sudo init 3 (i think) then control+alt+backspace in X
[11:45] <Penny83> or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[11:45] <Zerb_Riss> ah okay thanks
[11:45] <Zerb_Riss> :)
[11:45] <spiderworm> grout: did you want php5 or php4 ?
[11:45] <graveson> what software can i use to write my blog offline- i have a blog from wordpress
[11:46] <spiderworm> graveson: open office
[11:46] <ompaul> Penny83, wrong o/s
[11:46] <Penny83> graveson: or install apache,php and wordpress localy :)
[11:46] <Penny83> ompaul: what?
[11:46] <ompaul> Penguin,  the init 3 - we use 1 2 6
[11:47] <mikewinsdesk> how would i generate an ssh key file using ssh-keygen
[11:47] <grout> lampshade: this happens http://grout.ws:85/downloads/test.php
[11:47] <graveson> thanks all, the 1st option is easier for for the time being
[11:47] <spiderworm> grout: did you want php5 or php4 ?
[11:47] <ompaul> Penguin,  the thinking is - if you installed it you want it
[11:47] <ompaul> Penny83,  the thinking is - if you installed it you want it
[11:47] <Penny83> then, how can i backup my databases (mysql) ?
[11:48] <Driller> Penny83 - you took the question out of my mouth :)
[11:48] <ww2> Is there anyway I can setup Linux to autodetect if a network drive is connected or not? I have a main server here at home (with Windows only)... it provides internet access and I mount two of it's drives here in Ubuntu. I want the drives to be automatically unmounted if the server computer is shutdown. Possible?
[11:48] <Penny83> ompaul: I need to reinstall ubuntu, i can't understanding you :) Driller: good ;)
[11:48] <spiderworm> grout: did you want php5 or php4 ? <--- third time I'm asking you, this shouldn't be hard
[11:48] <Driller> Can anyone answer Penny83
[11:48] <Penny83> Driller: out of your fingers :D
[11:49] <lampshade> grout: if you got that, if that's your webpage, php is working
[11:49] <Driller> penny's question? (sorry, polish keyboard)
[11:49] <grout> spiderworm php5, sorry
[11:49] <lampshade> otherwise phpinfo wouldn't work obviously... so there must be something else wrong with your hello world, not your setup
[11:49] <grout> lampshade: let me show you my hello world
[11:49] <spiderworm> grout: do you have this package installed: libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[11:49] <ompaul> Penny83,  the thinking is - if you installed it you want it - we use only init 1, single 2, full multi user with X, 6 reboot and 0 for stop
[11:50] <menko> hi, when you use sudo/gksudo to open a program, what is the first file which is run before the program is started? I want to set some environment varibles before the application starts.
[11:50] <sheriff_> is there any subtitle application?
[11:50] <Penny83> ompaul: I'm think you're talking with the wrong person :D
[11:51] <grout> spiderworm: how can i tell?
[11:51] <spiderworm> grout: lampshade is right, it appears php is working... like he says, post the source of your hello world app somewhere
[11:51] <dufresnep> flash9 beta, does someone else get looping sound?
[11:51] <grout> ok thanks guys
[11:51] <ompaul> this was the cause: <Penny83> Zerb_Riss: try "sudo init 3"
[11:52] <spiderworm> lampshade: he probably didnt have <? ?> around his code in his hello world app
[11:52] <dtygel> ok folks: nobody can help me there, so let me do a second question, maybe easier:
[11:52] <dtygel> s there a way to install ubuntu in a machine through LAN from ANOTHER machine which has ubuntu installed?
[11:52] <Penny83> ompaul: oh, yes, I'm sorry
[11:53] <Sp4rKy> please, where can i get the patch applied to Ubuntu kernel  ?
[11:53] <motin__> dtygel: the alternative cd can do a lot of magic - for instance probably install like you want
[11:53] <b03nto> anyone know where to get bd-claim.patch for 2.6.18 ?
[11:53] <motin__> i am getting rather annoyed
[11:53] <dtygel> motin: nothing installs from the CD
[11:54] <dtygel> motin: as I said before, it hangs in the line "checking if image is initram.."
[11:54] <Daviey> mikewinsdesk, ssh-keygen is for logging in without passwords
[11:54] <Penny83> I've a question for you guys... I'm running 6.06 boot cd, i've changed /etc/apt/sources.list pointing to edgy archives and in terminal i've typed "apt-get install ubiquity". Ubiquity now is installed, if i try to install a new system I will install an edgy system ?
[11:54] <spiderworm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279705 <--- laptop headphones detection issues.... any ideas on fixing something like this?
[11:54] <dtygel> motin: I tried 4 differente CDs (2 with dapper, 1 with beatrix, 1 with breezy): all hang up. Some say simply "kernel panic"
[11:55] <lasindi_lcps> Hi everyone, is there a way to install Sun's Java 1.5 on Ubuntu 64-bit? I cannot find it, even though I have multiverse enabled and it normally shows up on my 32-bit computers
[11:55] <cappe_> dtygel: try cleaning your cd-drive :)
[11:55] <KristeK> help!! Can't install amule on ubuntu server (no desktop gui)
[11:56] <dtygel> cappe: I took this cd drive from another computer: and there it works all right. It's something else.
[11:56] <jaggz-> I'm wondering.. my gnome terminal scrolls really slow
[11:56] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:56] <cappe_> dtygel: try scandisk / fsck the disk.. then try removing your RAM and putting them in again
[11:56] <spiderworm> dtygel: i've gotten that when trying to install ubuntu on older machines, like, 5 years old
[11:56] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: have you checked the FAQ?
[11:56] <lampshade> I've run into it on older cdroms that were about to die
[11:56] <jaggz-> anyone know how to speed this up?  In this case I'm using vim, but in general it just seems to update the screen really slow -- I can basically witness the speed of the lines being redrawn
[11:58] <dtygel> spiderworm: indeed, it's an old machine. What can I do then?
[11:58] <spiderworm> dtygel: spend money
[11:58] <^Ocean^> how do i remove the edgy nvidia drivers so it dont conflict with the newer nvidia drivers i have installed ?
[11:58] <dtygel> cappe: the disks are allright: I used them to install ubuntu in other machines, without problems
[11:58] <DexterF> how do I figure which package contains a certain file?
[11:58] <KristeK> Can someone help? amule on ubuntu SERVER?
[11:58] <DexterF> (package not installed yet)
[11:58] <fdoving> DexterF: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <DexterF> KristeK: you mean headless?
[11:59] <DexterF> fdoving: thanks
[11:59] <dtygel> spderworm: it's not a personal computer, it's from our small organisation. We don't have this money for a upgrade. Barely for salaries! :( And I definitely don't want to fall back to windows...
[11:59] <apokryphos> DexterF: ...or install apt-file
[11:59] <KristeK> headless? kind of amule deamon with webserver
[11:59] <KristeK> I don't have the graphical interface
[12:00] <Yggdrasil> is there a way to make a floppy disk automount ?
[12:00] <raintheory> spderworm :   maybe stupid question, but is CD-ROM jumpers set right?
[12:00] <^Ocean^>  I installed the linux drivers from nvidia but ubuntu insists on loading its stalk nvidia drivers on boot time,  so X wont start at boot, i have to rmmod nvidia then modprobe the correct drivers from the /lib/modules/kernelver directory
[12:00] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: yes, it says here to install a package that I can't find: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-21b44ff330436e9f387606a337f458a3c2113a3e-2 I'm happy to use free Java if it will let me run Eclipse; it's just that Eclipse appears to depend on Sun's Java.