=== NerdCaca [n=andrew@ppp-69-229-228-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [01:19] stelis: how can the web proxy optimise network usage === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:20] If you have multiple clients accessing the same page then the Web cache downloads the content once [01:20] Which is a big deal if you have a classroom and a small Internet connection [01:20] stelis: ok, so it can cache, alright [01:21] stelis: i didnt know if edubuntu did cache [01:21] It doesn't unless you install a cache package [01:21] But many .edu networks have a prxoy already [01:22] And Edubuntu will use it [01:22] If you configure the applications [01:23] stelis: does edubuntu already do filtering [01:24] That list was really of network services that users need to be aware of when they install Edubuntu [01:24] ok [01:25] Many .edu networks *require* access via an existing proxy...so Edubuntu won't have Internet access unless they configure proxy support [01:26] Which is why I figured it was important [01:27] BonBonTheJon: FWIW, I actually use VMware for testing Edubuntu [01:27] You can simulate a thin client network with Workstation [01:28] oh, maybe i should try out edubuntu, lol [01:28] It helps a lot :) [01:29] Ubuntu ships QEMU [01:29] Which a like Vmware but free and more fiddly [01:29] cant i just download vmware and an edubuntu virtual machine [01:31] stelis: see if it sounds ok so far http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27392/ [01:35] Edubuntu has two modes: the default and "stand-alone". The default mode enables the system as an LTSP thin client server. [01:35] So you need one VM to run Edubuntu and a second to be the thin client... [01:36] OK. [01:37] Reviewing is mostly ignoring the good stuff and picking up trivial errors... [01:37] Two things, really: [01:38] You've said "page", but this document may be either on-line or printed, so you probably need to say "section" or "document" [01:39] ok changed to section [01:39] I did say trivial :) [01:39] i'm trying to leave the section more general network ideas, rather than specific to edubuntu [01:40] That's probably what's wanted [01:40] i figured [01:40] what was the second thing [01:41] The other is that you need to explain a new term when you introduce it, even though it may seem totally obvious [01:41] e.g. wired and wireless [01:41] like... [01:41] yeah, i haven't done those yet [01:41] OK, I'll shut then [01:41] thanks [01:41] :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.12] has joined #edubuntu === jonathan2 [n=jonathan@196.1.57.78] has joined #edubuntu === lguerra [i=c9f5a6ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/gluc.unicauca.edu.co/x-766f488c893962e4] has joined #edubuntu [02:25] RichEd: Ping === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === NerdCaca [n=andrew@ppp-69-229-228-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === FreeT15 [n=thiz@61.49.220.149] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu === magnon is now known as magnon|libertari === magnon|libertari is now known as magnon|liberal === magnon|liberal is now known as magnon === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:34] Evening all [04:35] hi sbalneav [04:35] Hello [04:36] hi === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [05:18] hi, i am new to linix, and me want to hack govornament campooters [05:18] ?? [05:18] i have no clue [05:19] i just got done doing my marketing homework, so my brain is shot [05:19] lol, i'm trying to study for a c programming test [05:20] man..i can't wait to get to C programming...im doing all my pre-req courses now...looks like i will take my first in next summer [05:20] see...my bachelors in computer science, i emphasized on IS and Intranetworking instead of coding [05:20] nixternal: i do my homework in gcc and it confuses my classmates [05:21] I've been programming in C for 20+ years. [05:21] but i had taken assembly, c, vb, and ladder logic years ago [05:21] jeesh sbalneav [05:21] It, uhh, isn't quite so exciting after that long :) [05:21] nixternal: yeah, our program is mainly focused on database [05:21] i coded in C in the 90's [05:21] now im going back to get some more coding skills [05:22] there are 3 steps in this program im doing...there is C++, VB blah, and I cannot remember the 3rd, it might have been database stuff [05:22] heh, my first C program was a terminal program I wrote for my 300 baud modem back in 1985. Wrote it in turbo C when I was 17. :) [05:22] so in this program, i will cover windows c, unix c, gui, c#, and some perl [05:23] i know the c isn't different, but there are a couple of seperate courses [05:23] nixternal: i do my programming in nano and compile with gcc, it confuses the windows kids [05:24] my problem is i can read the code just fine, but i couldn't create a program on my own anymore...i want to get back to coding on my own and creating my own stuff [05:24] gcc -ofun [05:24] BonBonTheJon: it is nice to know im not the only nano freak [05:25] although, for my text editing stuff, for instance docbook and what not, nothing beats kate for me [05:25] nixternal: nano if I'm in console, kate if i have my gui [05:25] gedit is nice though, but kate validates docbook and xml [05:25] ya BonBonTheJon, same here [05:25] nixternal: great minds think alike [05:25] indeed they do [05:25] ;) [05:25] If you're a nano freak, that means you're 99.999999999% normal. [05:25] heh [05:26] That's a, I say, that's a JOKE son. [05:26] people still ooh and ahh over vi, well vim [05:26] but vim is to much work [05:27] So tell me, if you move a piece of code around, and need to move it back 2 indent levels, how does that work in nano? [05:27] thats where i use kate [05:27] nano is for my quick cli edit [05:27] s [05:30] I still haven't been able to get into kate or gedit [05:32] then what are you using? [05:32] what are you into? [05:33] vim usually [05:33] emacs sometimes [05:33] cuz you are so elite [05:34] not really [05:35] I just can't figure out how to use the GUI editors very well [05:37] you can't figure out how to use the gui editors, but you have figured out emacs [05:37] hehe [05:37] yep [05:37] you are backwards [05:38] the GUI editors always mess me up [05:38] the line wrapping [05:38] I can't do things like move columns [05:38] ya [05:38] kate the line wrapping is smooth [05:39] gedit it is rather crude [05:39] in kate, I dont like the hashing it does for line wrapping [05:40] see, i kind of do like that...it lets you know it is line wrapped === FreeT15 [n=thiz@61.49.220.149] has joined #edubuntu [05:44] LaserJock: You're kinda a doco/yelp/xml sort of person, right? [05:44] When you're not shooting lasers at things. [05:44] well, I'm on the doc team [05:44] Cool. [05:44] so I suppose [05:44] What's the best way to handle menu selections. I'm working on the handbook... [05:45] And I want to say something like... [05:45] Open the System menu, and go to System -> Users and Groups [05:45] Is there a tag for that? [05:45] the doc team has a system for that [05:45] Lay it on me bro! [05:46] SystemUsers and Groups [05:46] Ooooh [05:46] sbalneav: do you have the doc team repo by chance? [05:46] sexxxy [05:46] we set up files [05:46] Um, no. I'm working on the edubuntu handbook, and that's currently off in it's own little world. [05:47] so you can do like &gedit; and it would insert the above for gedit [05:47] ooh, i seen my makefile booboos for the kubuntu pdf's yesterday...i refixed them, and still had booboos i overlooked..yesterday was not a good doc day for me [05:47] LaserJock: i think what i will do is when i have a lot of content, im going to go through and create a handbook.ent and move a lot of stuff over to it [05:47] like LTSP for one [05:48] otherwise people will be trying to translate it, and making it hard on users [05:48] So, if it was a multilevel pick, you'd do ApplicationsInternetNaughty Pictures Of Bugs ? [05:50] so right now we have a gnome-menus.ent that has a line like [05:50] hrmm... [05:50] can you guys look over my introduction to networks for the handbook, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27430/ [05:51] its not done yet [05:51] is the top item [05:51] then there is [05:51] [05:51] man..im having a hell of time thinking about this one for some reason [05:51] [05:52] so it goes, if im correct [05:52] KMenuInternetKonqueror [05:53] ya, that looks correct [05:53] ah, submenu [05:54] BonBonTheJon: you rock! [05:54] nixternal: since you focused on networks I thought you could look over it [05:54] very nice clean code [05:55] kate is good! [05:55] that it is [05:55] tag, dont' think i have used that one much [05:56] nixternal: someone else sent me the little part they did as a start, and it was in there [05:56] ahh [05:56] good validation it seems as well [05:57] !pastebin [05:57] pastebin.ubuntu-nl.com [05:57] i think [05:57] .org [05:57] http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org [05:57] there you go lazy [05:58] look up, i just posted one [05:59] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27432/ === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [06:01] oh ya, i forgot about menuchoice === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [06:02] woudn't this be correct though -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27434/ [06:04] So, I'm thinking of moving from Firefox to Epiphany. Can anyone give me a cogent reason not to? [06:04] nope [06:04] hehe [06:05] memory requirement would be the only thing I could think of. [06:05] <^Ghost2U> anyone install opera on dapper? === ^Ghost2U is an opera fan [06:11] ^Ghost2U: my brother has [06:11] I installed it [06:11] sbalneav: do you use many ff extensions? [06:11] Nope. [06:11] crimsun: memory usage is less with ephy [06:11] currently one of the main nice things about ephy is broken, due to mozilla's crap code [06:12] normally you can search for the main bar, but right now it is busted [06:12] sbalneav: I don't like how it epi handles URL editing [06:12] but other then that it seems cool [06:12] LaserJock: url editing? [06:12] <^Ghost2U> I'm trying to but it's saying sudo won't allow the install [06:12] Burgundavia: you know. editing a previous URL [06:12] Burgundavia: is it possible to set the address bar to use tab to autocomplete instead of loosing focus on the address bar? [06:12] I talked with you once [06:13] wrt editing URLs, I'm convinced that epiphany-browser has it correct, whereas opera/ff/etc. have it broken. [06:14] nixternal: no idea [06:14] losing focus is one of the most annoying bugs ephy has [06:14] i have jsut gotten so used to hitting tab to autocomplete, and i hate when i loose focus with epiphany doing so [06:14] the ephy devs have to do a lot of hacking around moz stupidness [06:14] crimsun: I know you do but I just can't figure out how to do things efficiently otherwise [06:14] i wonder why, since it is in moz [06:14] because it is moz [06:14] but then again, i heard crazy stuff about getting tree view in konversation [06:15] moz as a platform generally sucks, unless you are using xul and all their secret sauce [06:15] heh, obviously you haven't messed with KHTML [06:15] <^Ghost2U> can someone tell me why i cannot install the opera deb pkg for ubuntu dapper? [06:15] it would make you love internet explorer [06:16] ^Ghost2U: out of the repos? [06:16] it works fine out of dapper-commercial [06:16] ^Ghost2U: I'd use Canonical's dapper-commercial repo [06:17] <^Ghost2U> off of opera's mirror [06:17] crimsun: why do think epi's got it right? it seems odd to me but I'm sure I can be convinced [06:18] <^Ghost2U> quote: The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact your syste, administrator [06:18] LaserJock: well, first it's just my opinion. second, I tend to use bookmarks far more often than editing URLs in-place. [06:19] crimsun: that would make a difference. I don't use *any* bookmarks really [06:19] <^Ghost2U> ok.. assume I'm totally ignorant of retreiving from the repos (I am), what to do? [06:19] I find bookmarks somewhat annoying [06:20] svn commit -m "The Feisty Fawn - 7.04 is in the repos - sorry, I was iching to do this one ;)" [06:20] Sending libs/global.ent [06:20] woo0t [06:20] would have been nice if i was in the doc channel like i had planned [06:20] im glad i can spell itching as well [06:20] ^Ghost2U: echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu main dapper-commercial" |sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera [06:26] I have FF, epi, opera, and konqi and I don't particularly like any of them so I just bounce between them [06:29] ya, same here [06:29] i hate to say it, but i think ie6 takes the cake for browsers [06:29] except the fact that it doesn't tab, but there are hacks to fix that [06:30] <^Ghost2U> crimsun: permission problem with tee command to sources.list [06:31] ie6? have you gone nuts? [06:31] <^Ghost2U> file attrib 644 owner root group root [06:31] :-) [06:31] ^Ghost2U: did you copy and paste the entire command verbatim? [06:31] <^Ghost2U> nix: you wold be joking, right? [06:31] <^Ghost2U> would [06:32] i would hope so, as it has been years since i last used ie [06:32] ;) [06:33] my brain is shot right now, and im not quick on my feet with the sarcasm it seems [06:33] nah, it was good [06:33] in other news, rich is a gnome convert. [06:33] swore off all kde apps two hours ago [06:33] oh crimsun do not spread those lies [06:33] darn, I'm gullible today [06:33] i will be hung [06:34] although, i do like edubuntu ;) [06:34] why? [06:34] why what? [06:34] <^Ghost2U> well, no errors, but not sure if it's doing anything either [06:34] why would you be hung? [06:34] oh, could you imagine me using gnome, while writing the karbon 14 docs for kde [06:35] i would use windows before i would use gnome ;) === nixternal hides [06:35] <^Ghost2U> crimsun: can't... ubuntu box is another pc [06:36] nixternal: how odd, really [06:36] so odd, that... [06:37] i failed on that one [06:37] nixternal: (not really -- most of the patches I make are done in a putty session) [06:37] but crimsun, that is probably because you are working on ubuntu from "work" which is probably all ms [06:37] so you have a reason, or an excuse [06:38] it's because I'm working on the next Ubuntu killer!! [06:38] err, yeah. === Dheeraj_ku [n=Dheeraj@203.145.159.44] has joined #edubuntu [06:40] <^Ghost2U> hmm [06:40] <^Ghost2U> opera doesn't appear in sources.list [06:40] it's not supposed to appear in sources.list [06:40] <^Ghost2U> ok [06:41] dapper-commercial is the "pocket"; opera appears in that "pocket" [06:41] you can see with ``apt-cache policy opera'' [06:42] <^Ghost2U> unable to locate opera [06:43] <^Ghost2U> W: unable to locate package opera [06:43] did you add the dapper-commercial pocket and then update? [06:44] <^Ghost2U> i banged out the commands verbatim [06:45] <^Ghost2U> assume i'm new to edubuntu [06:45] <^Ghost2U> but not entirely new to linux [06:46] hi is it possible to install all the package of fedora4 on ubuntu? [06:46] ^Ghost2U: sudo apt-get update [06:50] <^Ghost2U> no traffic / activity on my modem nor hdd [06:53] Dheeraj_ku: what do you mean? === ^Ghost2U is lost [06:54] ^Ghost2U: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list [06:54] http://pastebin.ca , please [06:57] Well, I'm heading to bed. Night all! [07:01] <^Ghost2U> crimsun: post is 211130 [07:07] ^Ghost2U: it doesn't look like the dapper-commercial repo was added [07:08] ^Ghost2U: maybe try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal [07:08] and add the following line: [07:09] deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main [07:10] and then save it and run sudo apt-get update in the terminal [07:12] <^Ghost2U> ok [07:14] once you've done that you should be able to run sudo apt-get install opera [07:18] <^Ghost2U> now we're getting somewhere [07:18] <^Ghost2U> :) [07:19] <^Ghost2U> was getting some weird stuff from thin client when trying the previous stuff [07:20] <^Ghost2U> I was actually on the client atempting to run install [07:28] <^Ghost2U> sweet! [07:28] <^Ghost2U> it's installed [07:29] <^Ghost2U> LaserJock: thanks a bunch! .. gotta crash, it's almost 2AM here, and i gotta be up in 4 hrs [07:29] ok, glad it worked [07:34] <^Ghost2U> later laser :) === ^Ghost2U is now known as ^GhostZzZz === pips1 [n=philipp@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.149] has joined #edubuntu [08:17] morning l [08:18] let's try that again : morning ladies & gents [08:18] morning RichEd! [08:18] hi highvoltage [08:18] we should actually all chime together like a classroom... moor-ning-mis-ter-rich-ed [08:19] I meant me try that again ... I had to clear my keyboard ... the l stutter :) [08:20] speaking of kiddies greeting teacher ... here's a friday feelgood link from ogra last night: [08:20] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193 [08:20] greeting [08:20] RichEd: I've put it on the Edubuntu website and submitted to fridge :) [08:21] hi freet15 [08:21] great :) [08:21] :) now , It`s 2:30 PM in Beijing China [08:22] freet15: it's only 08:21 in South Africa, we still have a long hard day ahead of us [08:22] Highvoltage: so... morning for you ;) [08:23] highvoltage:Nice to meet you [08:26] freet15: :) [08:28] good morning/day/evening/night to everyone [08:29] pips1: :) so powerfull~~ [08:29] RichEd: did lguerra manage to speak to you yesterday? [08:30] freet15: ni hao ma? [08:30] :) ni hao, where are you? [08:31] Switzerland [08:32] mornign pips1 [08:33] pips1: beautiful country ~ === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-134-244.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:43] freet15: ni shi xuesheng ma? [08:43] hi ... back after an adsl reset ... freet did you comment on this ? I may have missed your response. [08:44] pips1: so to add to your other skills ... do you speak mandarin as well ? [08:44] pips1:not yet, your are chinese?! [08:45] freet15: no, I'm just bluffing ;-) [08:45] RichEd: no, we just greet to each other. [08:46] ;) [08:46] I am glad he is making you feel welcome here. [08:47] :) [08:51] freet15: I spent 2 months in hangchow learning mandarin, but that was 18 years ago, and with no practise, I forgot everything :-/ [08:52] 18 years ago? *), I`m just a children that time! [08:52] erm hangzhou, rather [08:52] yes, I was 15 [08:56] sorry, a litter busy....I was run off my feet today, [09:01] see you later, guys === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.220.149] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [09:11] so cool, found an english-mandarin (pinyin) online dictionary http://hua.umf.maine.edu/php/search.php [09:12] oh, there are lots of them, ok ( http://hua.umf.maine.edu/php/search.php ) [09:13] ^^^ sorry, http://chinalinks.osu.edu/cdict.htm === pips1 shuts up [09:37] in xchat-gnome, is there a way to enable automatic local logging? [09:42] morning [09:43] hey === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === adrian___ [n=adrian@84-12-152-172.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego [n=cafuego@59.167.191.160] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.149] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:40] hi cbx33 [10:41] cbx33 willvdl g'mornin' [10:41] hey RichEd [10:41] I discovered a mad bug whilst looking for those menus [10:41] ;) [10:42] vmware had created nested directories up to about 128 levels [10:42] I knew there was something amiss === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEE2AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:45] anyone know how to edit shortcuts in FF === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:55] lucasvo, meaning? [10:55] willvdl: I want to disable the alt+s shortcut [10:57] ah. the help files don't say anything [11:07] lucasvo: did you have a look at the about:config yet? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.12] has joined #edubuntu [11:48] pips1, did you send me the syslog ? [11:49] i see no mails here === philipp__ [n=philipp@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === philipp__ [n=philipp@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === philipp__ [n=philipp@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [11:51] mornin ogra === pips1 [n=pips1@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=pips1@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=pips1@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=pips1@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [12:02] wow [12:02] that went like really really well.. xchat on windows. :-/ [12:03] ack === pips1 [n=pips1@254.190.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [12:04] sorry for the noise, folks [12:06] pips1, did you send me the syslog ? [12:06] i see no mail here [12:07] yes i did.. should i re-send? [12:08] hmm, i didnt get it [12:08] sent to ogra at ubuntu dot com, 19.10.2006 16:49 === pips1 re-sends [12:12] the syslog attachment is about 0.6 MB... big, but shouldn't be a problem, really [12:17] did you tar it up pips1 ? === pips1 blushes [12:17] heheh === cbx33 pokes pips1 [12:17] heheh [12:17] pips1, did you have wires connected to both interfaces ? [12:17] s/wires/swithces or hubs/ [12:17] yes [12:17] Oct 19 12:42:46 kernel: [ 99.532168] eth0: no link during initialization. [12:17] Oct 19 12:42:46 netcfg[12754] : WARNING **: couldn't determine MII ioctl to use for eth0 [12:17] thats the only thing that doesnt look kosher [12:17] dodgy cable? [12:17] how are you today ogra [12:17] got time for a little SCP chat later? [12:18] yep, a bit later ... i'm still running DVD tests ... [12:18] ok sure np === cbx33 is preparing a 3 course excel traning session *shudder* [12:18] i have till the end of the day :p [12:19] I did try replacing one of the cables, but I didn't replace the cable from the server to the switch.. I was assuming there is a connection, because the lights on the switch are lit up [12:19] ooooh, wait [12:20] do you use 192.168.0.XXX for your internet access network ? [12:20] i don't thinks so, my router is 192.168.1.1 [12:20] can you check that ? === pips1 fires up the edubuntu server [12:21] there is one case where the autconfiguration doesnt do anything, that is if the 192.168.0 range is already used for the other inbterface [12:21] ic [12:22] hi ogra, quick question following up on my default application question yesterday ... what is the name of the files used to configure the menu [ Applications ] [ Places ] [ System ] [12:22] ogra: and nice feelgood story about the pre-school :) [12:23] RichEd, the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ define the menu entries [12:23] :) thanks [12:23] in my router config, it says local network ip address 192.168.1.1 [12:23] can I double check from the server somehow? [12:23] hmm [12:23] ifconfig -a [12:24] see if the interface has a 192.168.1 address [12:26] eth0 doesn't have an ip set, eth1 is on 192.168.0.6 <-- ?! === cafuego [n=cafuego@59.167.191.160] has joined #edubuntu [12:29] ^^^ why is eth1 on 192.168.0.6, I thought it would be 192.168.1.x, or not? === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [12:33] ogra, doesn't the edubuntu server internet facing interface get an ip from my router's dhcp range (which is 192.168.1.33 to 63)? [12:34] pips1: Mine does [12:34] It's a development release... [12:34] FWIW === pips1 is obviously confused about the whole networking thing with gateway, dhcp, ... [12:35] stelis: I was [12:35] heh [12:35] I discovered that solution was to leave it alone [12:35] :) [12:35] And Edubuntu do what it wanted [12:36] My router uses 192.168.1.0 network [12:36] And Edubuntu uses 192.168.0.0 [12:36] I screwed it up trying to customise it the first ime arounds [12:37] I notice that settings a static address for the external connection [12:37] Doesn't seem to set the default gateway [12:38] hmm [12:38] What's your current setup? [12:38] hardware or software setup? [12:39] network, I guess [12:39] You should have a router with DHCP, and Edubuntu system with 2 interfaces, right? [12:39] internet - adsl modem/router - hub - edubuntu server - switch - thin client [12:40] Is that a separate hub? [12:40] yes [12:40] separate? [12:40] Not built-in to the router itself [12:40] yes, separate === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [12:41] I connect to the hub with my laptop, so I can stay connected to IRC while testing [12:41] So DHCP is probably OK on the router [12:41] yes [12:42] OK, so the issue is with the interface configuration on Edubuntu... [12:42] ah, let me check the ip i currently have on my laptop [12:43] my laptop, coming from the hub, has ip 192.168.0.3 [12:43] That may be the issue [12:43] while I thought it would get an ip from my routers dhcp range... [12:43] hmm [12:44] You need two separate networks [12:44] what the heck is my router doing? [12:44] The router's network needs to be different from Edubuntu's [12:44] In other words... [12:44] Not 192.168.0.0 [12:45] yes [12:45] Try resetting your router to use something different [12:45] Like 192.168.5.0/255.255.255.0 === RichEd is out for 20 mins [12:46] but i wonder why it's 192.168.0.x since my router configuration is telling me that its ip address is 192.168.1.1 and its dhcp range is 192.168.1.33 - 63 ? [12:46]