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| ryanakca | back | 12:33 |
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| ryanakca | apokryphos: yes, well, the hotkeys are given a value, ex: XF86HOME or XF86VOLUP (or something simillar), and then I just used those keys in the keyboard shortcuts menu | 12:36 |
| apokryphos | right | 12:36 |
| ryanakca | XF86Mail, XF86HomePage ... I just reset those to kontact and FF... but I can't seem for find the ones that go for the mutilmedia ones... | 12:38 |
| ryanakca | they're given values by selecting your keyboard model in Regional & Languages | 12:39 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: just to be clear, are you wondering what the XF86XXXX name should be for vol up/down, or are you looking for where to alter the "Volume Up/Down" shortcut? | 12:40 |
| ryanakca | where to alter | 12:40 |
| ryanakca | XF86(VolUp, VolDown, Mute) are already assigned... | 12:40 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: from kmix global shortcuts, right? | 12:41 |
| ryanakca | just need to find where to stick them so that it controls the sound | 12:41 |
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| apokryphos | ryanakca: ...and for other multimedia stuff I'd really just presume that it's set in each application (kaffeine, amarok) | 12:43 |
| apokryphos | though GNOME does handle that differently, I know (global multimedia shortcuts with "clever" app detection) | 12:43 |
| ryanakca | aha, found it... it used to be under System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcutes -> (Global shortcuts) iirc | 12:44 |
| apokryphos | I kind of presumed you were just looking there :P | 12:44 |
| ryanakca | lol | 12:45 |
| === ryanakca never knew you could set it from the kmix settings | ||
| apokryphos | (and saw that it wasn't there, not sure if it should be though, really; kmix global shortcut definitely does just the job though) | 12:45 |
| ryanakca | now, while setting it up in kmix, for some reason, the systray icons went single row instead of double row like I set them... odd... | 12:46 |
| ryanakca | I'll ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kde or #kubuntu... | 12:46 |
| apokryphos | hm, can't reproduce here | 12:46 |
| ryanakca | apokryphos: settings, configure kmix, apply | 12:47 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: not settings -> configure global shortcuts? | 12:47 |
| ryanakca | you can set the shortcuts in the configure global shortcuts | 12:48 |
| apokryphos | yeah | 12:48 |
| ryanakca | however, I had misclicked, so I hit apply, instead of ok. when I opened the Comfigure KMix dialog... | 12:48 |
| ryanakca | misclicked = Configure KMix instead of Configure Global Shortcuts | 12:48 |
| apokryphos | right | 12:49 |
| apokryphos | hitting apply there for me still doesn't do anything weird to the panel | 12:49 |
| ryanakca | odd... | 12:49 |
| nuku | the osd volume is from the kmilo service not kmix | 12:49 |
| apokryphos | nuku: so? | 12:50 |
| nuku | so the X86Vol* keys are binded there.. | 12:51 |
| nuku | i think they are even hardcoded.. | 12:51 |
| ryanakca | bash: kmilo: command not found | 12:51 |
| ryanakca | sorry, ignorance :) | 12:51 |
| ryanakca | hmm... | 12:51 |
| nuku | see kcontrol -> kde compontents -> services and stop kmilo | 12:51 |
| === ryanakca wonders why it isn't working since recent upgrade | ||
| apokryphos | I'm pretty sure they're not | 12:51 |
| ryanakca | well, not that doesn't work point, just that it stopped working... | 12:52 |
| apokryphos | because I always used my volume multimedia key shortcuts specifically with amarok's global shortcuts | 12:52 |
| ryanakca | 'Unable to contact KDED'... | 12:52 |
| ryanakca | ok, this is wierd... reboot? | 12:53 |
| nuku | apokryphos: maybe amarok remaps them.. | 12:53 |
| apokryphos | I'm pretty sure they'd be remapped even in kmix | 12:54 |
| nuku | anyway this kmilo thing handles them in the first place.. | 12:54 |
| === apokryphos stops being lazy and tries on his keyboard | ||
| ryanakca | ok, I'm going to reboot... | 12:56 |
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| apokryphos | seems to work fine straight away, I guess they are set like that by default | 12:59 |
| apokryphos | though, again, there'd be no problem in such a case of altering the kmix global shortcuts (since it's just a front-end to alsamixer) | 12:59 |
| apokryphos | that is, in the case of things not working properly | 01:00 |
| apokryphos | ryanakca: have you updated your kde? | 01:00 |
| ryanakca | I ran dist-upgrade on tuesday, and I installed KDE4 as well | 01:02 |
| ryanakca | but I logged out-in, | 01:02 |
| apokryphos | that should be all you'd need | 01:02 |
| ryanakca | and KDE4 is installed seperately... | 01:02 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 01:03 |
| ryanakca | brb, reboot, now that the upgrade (started 3 min ago) is finished | 01:03 |
| jjesse | edgy is w/ kde 3.5.5 right? | 01:03 |
| apokryphos | yeah | 01:04 |
| apokryphos | don't know how that was managed, but very cool ;-) | 01:04 |
| jjesse | very carefully :) | 01:05 |
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| ryanakca | apokryphos: nuku: wierd... works now... | 01:20 |
| ryanakca | hmm... just as wierd... kwallet works now | 01:20 |
| apokryphos | heh | 01:20 |
| === ryanakca wonders... | ||
| ryanakca | KDE + upgrade = wierdness | 01:21 |
| ryanakca | log(out/in) usually does it... | 01:21 |
| apokryphos | that you could have those changes after an upgrade isn't surprising, but after a restart and not a logout would be | 01:27 |
| apokryphos | damn, I gotta head off to bed, see you :) | 01:27 |
| nixternal | bug 66858 | 01:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66858 in digikam "[Edgy] Adding a Tag + Icon Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66858 | 01:39 |
| nixternal | someone confirm that please | 01:39 |
| nixternal | it happens on every install i have here | 01:39 |
| ryanakca | erm... sure | 01:40 |
| ryanakca | just a sec.. | 01:40 |
| === ryanakca installs | ||
| nixternal | all you have to do is, add a tag to an image, and then select the icon thing to add an icon, and it should segfault on you | 01:40 |
| ryanakca | kk | 01:41 |
| === ryanakca thinks he's making progress in converting our school from 150$MS/comp to kubuntu... | ||
| ryanakca | I have all the comp teachers agreeing with me on the fact that it's stupid wasting money when you have a free (and better) alternative at hand... | 01:43 |
| nixternal | omg | 01:43 |
| nixternal | bug 67036 | 01:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67036 in Ubuntu "Getting Started - a gripe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67036 | 01:43 |
| nixternal | will someone tell me, does that guy want us to write documentation to show him how to burn a damn iso? | 01:43 |
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| ryanakca | yes | 01:45 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: he does | 01:45 |
| nixternal | holy shnikey this bug irks the hell out of me | 01:45 |
| === ryanakca figured out how to burn a knoppix iso at the age of 11... | ||
| ryanakca | reject? :D | 01:45 |
| nixternal | my daughter is 10 and she burns iso and music cds all day long | 01:46 |
| nixternal | im lost | 01:46 |
| ryanakca | same here... | 01:46 |
| nixternal | i don't want to reject, but maybe we should look at explaining an ISO in our documentation | 01:46 |
| nixternal | this is a wishlist bug i feel | 01:46 |
| ryanakca | yeah | 01:46 |
| ryanakca | iirc, when you right click on an iso in windows, it gives you the option to burn it onto a disc... | 01:47 |
| ryanakca | I might look into doing that one day... | 01:48 |
| === ryanakca twiddles while waiting for digikam to install | ||
| ryanakca | I wonder, could Kubuntu stuff (bug triaging, teaching classroom classes, packaging, making the rc logo, etc) could towards volunteer hours? (In ontario, we need 40h of volunteering for our high school diploma) | 01:50 |
| ryanakca | digikam is installed | 01:51 |
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| nixternal | sorry..was responding to that horrid bug | 01:54 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: it entirely depends on the definition used by your school, but I don't see why not | 01:54 |
| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee! | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | which bug? arent they all horid? :P | 01:54 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal, Riddell | 01:55 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: who would I bug to sign the slip? | 01:55 |
| nixternal | bug 67036 | 01:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67036 in Ubuntu "Getting Started - a gripe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67036 | 01:55 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: me | 01:55 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: mail it to the canonical office in montreal? | 01:55 |
| ryanakca | Air Mail! :D | 01:55 |
| nixternal | that guy says we should have a "hand holding document to help windows users create bootable cds from the iso files they download" | 01:55 |
| Riddell | could do that too, if you need an insecure physical signature | 01:55 |
| nixternal | actually, after i put it like that, i think we should have something | 01:55 |
| === Riddell beds | ||
| ryanakca | insecure physical signature? | 01:56 |
| ryanakca | G'night | 01:56 |
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| ryanakca | nixternal: yep :) | 01:58 |
| nixternal | it buggered on you too? | 01:58 |
| Hobbsee_ | ugh | 01:58 |
| ryanakca | bug 66858 | 01:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66858 in digikam "[Edgy] Adding a Tag + Icon Crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66858 | 01:58 |
| ryanakca | yep, crashed... | 01:58 |
| jdong | nixternal: hehe, I think you got the wrong 3 new features for ktorrent 2.0.3 ;-) | 02:02 |
| nixternal | well, the NEWS file was blank, so that is what they get | 02:02 |
| jdong | nixternal: yeah, I've called them out openly about their crummy changelogs :D | 02:03 |
| jdong | nixternal: btw, they're increased download speeds, improved private tracker compatibility | 02:03 |
| nixternal | fix it homer! | 02:03 |
| nixternal | ;) | 02:03 |
| jdong | and the third one, I guess, is increased version number ;-) | 02:03 |
| nixternal | you can edit da wiki | 02:03 |
| === jdong hits shiny edit button | ||
| nixternal | fix her up, as i did notice your name on their site for the ubuntu package ;) | 02:03 |
| Hobbsee | hey jdong | 02:04 |
| jdong | hey Hobbsee | 02:05 |
| === Hobbsee mutters about badgers and mushrooms | ||
| jdong | nixternal: all happy now :) | 02:09 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:09 |
| nixternal | i need fo0d | 02:09 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: tested your patches, they are okay | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 02:10 |
| jdong | mee too | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I'll report the issue concerning konqueror segfault, so that once resolved, we can switch back to the previous patch version | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can we try to ping mdz maybe tomorrow to try to get those patches in ? | 02:11 |
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| ryanakca | can anybody reproduce bug 67044 ? | 02:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67044 in kaffeine "Kaffeine crashes when attempting to play CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67044 | 02:34 |
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| Hobbsee | ryanakca: nope | 02:40 |
| Jucato | morning Hobbsee! | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 02:41 |
| ryanakca | hmmm, kk, ty (btw... attempting to play a cd when cd drive = empty... I might want to add that to the title...) | 02:41 |
| === Hobbsee double checks that her cd drive is actually empty | ||
| ryanakca | lol | 02:48 |
| === imbrandon idly wonders why you would try to play a cd in kaffeine when amarok is the audio player ( and there is kscd also ) | ||
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: because you can :P | 02:49 |
| jsgotangco | because its possible? | 02:49 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: no clue... I was just wondering if it would work under kaffeine | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | hum, I really have to patch kaffeine to remove the audio features....... | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | that would avoid stupid bugs :) | 02:51 |
| Jucato | because it's.. there? :) | 02:51 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, my thoughts exactly | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I have a patched version here | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | works for me :) | 02:51 |
| imbrandon | well its a bit late now, but bring it to mtv | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon that work my uds work, prepare the stuff to make multimedia simple so that we can play with it | 02:52 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: why would you want to rip a cd in KAudioCreater CD ripper, when you can do so in K3b? | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, exactly | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I'm also patching k3b to replace kaudiocreator | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, i dont use kaudiocreator ;) | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | and allow good konqueror integration | 02:52 |
| imbrandon | and audiocd -> amarok != kscd | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | ryanakca: I plan to get kaudiocreator removed from kubuntu for edgy+1 | 02:53 |
| ryanakca | Tonio_: good | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | and kscd removed too, aswell as kaffeine simplified to get rid of audio functions | 02:53 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, we just have to make sure it can rip mp3/ogg/flac and we're good | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | they are not supported much, unstable, and duplicate amarok | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | we'd better not become like gnome though | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon it can | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | I tested widely | 02:54 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, how is having one app for one job gnome ;) | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon the only problem is that there is no command line option to launch k3b opening the audio device | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | that's what I'm patching | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | k3b --device /dev/cdrom should be possible | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: well, it always occurs to me when i'm on a gnome based live cd how *little* software there is on it. | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: but one app for one job tends to be good | 02:55 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, few "supper" apps has always been the kde way | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | true | 02:55 |
| imbrandon | lots of little apps that do an indivudaul job is the gnome way | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: 3 apps doing the same thing means -> 3 more bug reports -> 3 more time spend fixing them -> duplication is evil | 02:55 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: there are some apps hidden from the menu but are installed. like BitTorrent. | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: indeed :) i was meaning in the general case. | 02:55 |
| === Hobbsee remembers saying the same thing for kwifimanager | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: well I'm not against duplication, I just think we don't need to ship kaudiocreator and kscd | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, trust me kde couldent be as dumbed down as gnome even if it tried | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, fair enough :) | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | especially while kaudiocrator is a peace of shit..... | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | sorry for this but that's true | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | configuration is a pain, performance are a pain | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, no i agree, and plan to help you lots in mtv | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | one of my main goals | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | k3b is by far better | 02:57 |
| Jucato | imbrandon: some people (actually just 2 or 3) are complaining that Kubuntu might be doing a GNOME (specific reference to System Settings) | 02:57 |
| imbrandon | i was just laughing ;) | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon by chance the work will be over at mtv :) | 02:57 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, you cant please everyone, let them bitch its better than kcontrol , although not perfect ;) | 02:57 |
| Jucato | (make that System Settings and the KDEMedia) | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: kubuntu is doing a compromise | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | take the best of kde and good ideas from gnome | 02:58 |
| Jucato | yeah I know... it's quite tough trying to reason with closed minds, though... | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | systemsettings UI has been redisigned with the help of el | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | she is from kde | 02:58 |
| ryanakca | g'night | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | and you can be sure kde4 will use the same principle | 02:58 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, then dont, tell them to use what they are confrotable with ;) they can easly make a shorcut for kcontrol | 02:58 |
| Jucato | yeah. this guy's complaining that he can't find the Launch Feedback options in System Settings, and insisting that it has been removed (even if it's still in KControl) | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon yes exactly | 02:58 |
| Jucato | and another has been complaining about the changes that Sime made. oh well... | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: Sime patches need love, that's true | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | it is a first shot | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | that's edgy goal | 02:59 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, do what i do, dont feed the trolls, if they have positive critisim or feedback great, if its just bitching , ignore it | 02:59 |
| Jucato | heh | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | but they are on the good way, and will be improved in the future | 02:59 |
| Jucato | very hard not to feed trolls... :) | 02:59 |
| imbrandon | and thats the reason for EDGY , thus the name EDGY , expirments, to get stuff polished for feisty to rock ;) | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: respond this to them : | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | "if it is just to package kde without any attempt or implementation, kubuntu doesn't have to exist, mandriva is already there, as well as slack or suse" | 03:00 |
| imbrandon | or debian | 03:01 |
| Jucato | I have this feeling that if some KDE core devs sort of "praised" or acknowledged these changes (System Settings, KDEMedia, etc.) they'd just shut up... | 03:01 |
| imbrandon | or better yet, dont respond at all unless its positive critisim or help not just bitching | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: aseigo for example is very pleased of how kubuntu works | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | of course he doesn't like everything, but thinks there are very good ideas behind this | 03:02 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, it dont matter if you are joe blow, it should take a kde "developer" to make it "good" thats the whole thing behind fee open source software, ANYONE can improve it | 03:02 |
| imbrandon | shouldent* | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | and if they are not happy, they can switch, install slackware and get a perfect untouched kde | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | that already exist | 03:02 |
| imbrandon | and besides sime and riddell are "kde devs'" | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | they even can fork kubuntu to unpatch it | 03:03 |
| === Hobbsee is reminded of something | ||
| Jucato | anyway, most of those "complaining" are power users. they feel that things are being dumbed down. My argument is that since they're power users, they'd know a way to go around these new features,like using KControl instead or removing/editing the /.hidden file | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | what were the plans with smart? | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | Jucato, exactly | 03:03 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, there arent any really, packagemanagement needs to be spec'd at mtv | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ahh okay | 03:04 |
| Jucato | but Adept needs even more loving :P | 03:05 |
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| jjesse | didn't amarok have a first run wizard in the version that came w/ dapper? | 04:06 |
| jjesse | can't find it in the version that comes ww/ edgy\ | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: ping ? | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | first run wizards are disabled by default in all kubuntu apps | 04:07 |
| jjesse | it wasn't that way in dapper was it? | 04:07 |
| jjesse | w/ amarok? | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | yes | 04:07 |
| jjesse | hmm ok | 04:08 |
| jjesse | i question that cause i referenced it in the kubuntu chapter in the offiical ubuntu book | 04:09 |
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| ZeroCool | Riddell: r u in | 04:57 |
| ZeroCool | anyone home.. | 04:59 |
| imbrandon | wasup ZeroCool | 05:01 |
| imbrandon | ? | 05:01 |
| ZeroCool | notice another bug, with edgy, (not the RC) but what I'm running, 6.10 xine is not running | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | ZeroCool: uh, why should xine be running? | 05:05 |
| ZeroCool | have several apps that are using it, like kaffeine, and kmplayer | 05:05 |
| ZeroCool | went to play some music, and yes... can't | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | what kinda of music, with what player and what was the error | 05:06 |
| imbrandon | "dosent work" is kinda hard to debug | 05:06 |
| ZeroCool | however, noatun could | 05:06 |
| ZeroCool | .flac file | 05:06 |
| imbrandon | do you have libxine-extracodecs installed ? | 05:06 |
| ZeroCool | checking | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | ZeroCool, " sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs " | 05:07 |
| ZeroCool | yes | 05:07 |
| ZeroCool | installed | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | and you restarted amaarok after it was installed ? | 05:07 |
| ZeroCool | amarok can play just fine.. | 05:08 |
| ZeroCool | its kaffeine and kmplayer | 05:08 |
| ZeroCool | just sit there acting stuiped | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok, amarok is the music player in kubuntu | 05:08 |
| ZeroCool | noatun can play it | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | but if amarok can play it xine is working | 05:08 |
| ZeroCool | ? | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | amarok uses xine | 05:08 |
| ZeroCool | odd | 05:09 |
| ZeroCool | sure | 05:09 |
| ZeroCool | okay I check, then why would not kaffeine, or kmplayer handle it..?? | 05:10 |
| ZeroCool | is there something not in sync | 05:10 |
| ZeroCool | because, if all three apps are using xine, then all three should be able to play it. | 05:11 |
| ZeroCool | hello | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | kaffiene requres a different package to play mp3's, last i knew | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | !mp3 | 05:14 |
| ubotu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 05:14 |
| ZeroCool | okay, but this is a .flac file | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm. perhaps not | 05:16 |
| ZeroCool | what I saying, if amarok, and kaffeine, and kmplayer are using the xine engine.. | 05:17 |
| ZeroCool | they should all be able to play that song file | 05:17 |
| ZeroCool | Right? | 05:17 |
| ZeroCool | what I'm seeing a is a blur between music and video and players, kaffeine is trying to cross the gap, and do both ( as a multi-media player) | 05:18 |
| ZeroCool | is this not correct ? | 05:18 |
| ZeroCool | instead of having several players.. | 05:19 |
| imbrandon | ZeroCool, correct but this will be fixed in feisty | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | e.g. kaffeine wont play music | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | amarok is the music app | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | personaly if amarok plays your .flac fine , i wouldent worry about it much | 05:30 |
| imbrandon | and to answer about xine and players, each app uses it diffrently so no | 05:31 |
| imbrandon | if it plays in xine in one dosent mean it will in all | 05:31 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon: amarok integration to the action chooser popup is finished and works with Sime's patches. | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: kaffeine patches are done too... the only thing to be done now is k3b (partly works at the moment) | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | now -> bed, since it is 8 am in france..... ;) | 08:17 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, great, gnight | 08:18 |
| Jucato | heh | 08:18 |
| Jucato | night Tonio_ :) | 08:18 |
| Sime | Tonio_: good morning! | 08:18 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: bah..... | 08:18 |
| imbrandon | lol | 08:18 |
| Sime | I just got up. | 08:18 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: ho, I have done the package but didn't include the last patches version | 08:18 |
| Sime | huh? | 08:18 |
| Jucato | so France is -6 hours from me. :) | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | I took the previous one, since it is a konqueror issue, and I have a good workarround with kds | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | to avoid the crash | 08:19 |
| Sime | we'll have to explain this all to Riddell. | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | I configured konqueror to preload at kde start and always maintain 1 preload version | 08:19 |
| Sime | give him the option. | 08:19 |
| Sime | ok | 08:19 |
| Sime | that is not so bad. ;) | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: yes, I have kdebase and kds packages ready | 08:20 |
| Sime | cool | 08:20 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: I prefer to include correct patches instead of tricky ones to workarround a konq bug | 08:20 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: better you remove the latest patches from the wiki page then.... | 08:20 |
| Sime | but people who upgrade probably won't get the new setting automatically. | 08:20 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: unless they already set those parameters manually, they will | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | because the profile file is merged with kds one | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | so if the profile file doesn't have anything set, it'll be merged | 08:21 |
| Sime | for everyone? | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 08:21 |
| Sime | I just learnt something | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135999 | 08:22 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 135999 in general "Konqueror segfault with audiocd:/" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | if you could confirm this, would be cool aswell :) | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | okay now bedtime ! | 08:22 |
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| Tonio_ | Sime: nex patches will have an issue -> what if there are 2 drives ? | 08:23 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: old patches are better since they put the device as a parameter... | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | Sime: ho and thanks for the kdcop thing :) that helped for amarok | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | amarok --cdplay `dcop kded mediamanager fullList | grep -B1 $DEVICE | head -n1` | 08:24 |
| Sime | I know | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | hehe :) | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | this is how I extract the device on your icon with the v9 patch, works nice | 08:24 |
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| seaLne | did we ever come up with a solution to it being impossible to reuse cdrws? | 11:06 |
| seaLne | (impossible for a normal user) | 11:07 |
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| seaLne | has anyone tried to use k3b recently? | 11:45 |
| seaLne | /dev/sg0 is root:root rather than cdrom for me | 11:46 |
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| imbrandon | seaLne, yea i just burned a RC cd | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | a few hours ago | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ ls -l /dev/hdc | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-10-16 06:46 /dev/hdc | 11:52 |
| seaLne | i burnt a dvd, earlier then rebooted and can't burn anything now | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | but k3b shoudl start with kdesu iirc | 11:52 |
| seaLne | why? | 11:52 |
| sebas | k3b doesn't need root privs | 11:52 |
| seaLne | the devices are supposed to be writable | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea by the cdrom group probably | 11:53 |
| seaLne | yep | 11:53 |
| seaLne | sebas: what perms do you have on sg0? | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | anyhow i just checked on my laptop too, its fine there also | 11:53 |
| sebas | crw-rw---- 1 root root 21, 0 Aug 31 13:40 /dev/sg0 | 11:54 |
| seaLne | imbrandon: sg0? | 11:54 |
| sebas | This is dapper, still. | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ ls -l /dev/sg0 | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | crw-rw---- 1 root root 21, 0 2006-10-16 11:47 /dev/sg0 | 11:54 |
| seaLne | so i don't see how cdrecord could write to it | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | it did but it write to /dev/hdc ( my burner iirc ) why would it write to sg0 | 11:57 |
| seaLne | http://rafb.net/paste/results/BqHE4u53.html | 11:57 |
| seaLne | what does k3b -> settings -> devices say your device is called? | 12:01 |
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| seaLne | i have scd0 | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | /dev/hdc | 12:02 |
| seaLne | could you do me a favour and delete all your k3b settings then check again? | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | seaLne, http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss111.png | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | sure but this install is only about 2 hours old | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | as i said i used it to burn an RC disk heh | 12:04 |
| Jucato | ooh all default looks :) | 12:05 |
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| seaLne | imbrandon: ok just tested on a fresh rc install and it is using hdd and is fine... | 12:19 |
| imbrandon | great | 12:19 |
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| seaLne | dosen't explain why i can't :-/ | 12:20 |
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| seaLne | even removing my settings i still get scd0 | 12:23 |
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| fabo | Riddell: is it possible to have a ktorrent dfsg modified version ? | 01:18 |
| Tm_T | I just found best support channel ever, there's chanserv with me. | 01:18 |
| Tm_T | I wonder if he does help me... :p | 01:18 |
| apokryphos | ChanServ is certainly a she | 01:18 |
| Riddell | fabo: what's not free about it? | 01:18 |
| fabo | Riddell: geoip stuff | 01:18 |
| Riddell | what licence is that under? | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: you can try | 01:19 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: Trust me I am trying. =) | 01:20 |
| Tm_T | Funny thing is, it even gives me rules when I join in... | 01:20 |
| Tm_T | Looks like chanserv is familyguy afterall. ;) | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: do the rules state that the channel is an auto-kline one, then go bye? | 01:21 |
| fabo | Riddell: open data license : www.maxmind.com/download/geoip/database/LICENSE.txt | 01:21 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: Er, chanserv is only op there ;( | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | awwww | 01:21 |
| fabo | Riddell: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/06/msg00093.html | 01:22 |
| fabo | Riddell: database file and country flags are affected | 01:22 |
| fabo | ktorrent-2.0.3/plugins/infowidget/geoip/GeoIP-LICENSE.txt | 01:22 |
| fabo | ktorrent-2.0.3/plugins/infowidget/geoip/FLAGS_LICENCE | 01:23 |
| Riddell | fabo: ye gods | 01:24 |
| fabo | Riddell: if it is possible, just tell me. Then you can do it or if you don't have time, tell me too and i'll prepare one | 01:26 |
| Riddell | fabo: that flags licence is especially evil | 01:28 |
| fabo | Riddell: i talked with upstream some time ago and he introduced a nogeoip flag at build time | 01:29 |
| fabo | Riddell: but he prefer to keep geoip stuff for people not interested in licenses ... | 01:30 |
| Riddell | for people who don't mind blatant copyright infringement | 01:30 |
| Riddell | it's not like there aren't free flag images out there | 01:31 |
| fabo | Riddell: what is your proposal ? | 01:36 |
| Riddell | hmm, we don't build with --enable-geoip Enables GeoIP database installation but the geoip files are installed | 01:36 |
| fabo | Riddell: in debian package changelog -> * built with GeoIP support enabled, but removed the database file | 01:36 |
| fabo | and country flags due to licensing restrictions (see README.Debian) | 01:36 |
| Riddell | so debian already has a dfsg version? | 01:36 |
| fabo | yes but outdated, it is 2.0.2 | 01:36 |
| Riddell | so why build with it enabled? | 01:38 |
| mhb | good afternoon | 01:38 |
| fabo | Riddell: joel (debian maintainer) decides to built it like that ... | 01:39 |
| Riddell | I know, I just don't understand why to enable it when the files are no longer there | 01:39 |
| fabo | Riddell: i mailed him about the option but he seems to have uploaded the package without using it | 01:39 |
| fabo | Riddell: maybe because i sended him each week a mail for updating ktorrent :p | 01:41 |
| Riddell | fabo: which option? | 01:41 |
| fabo | since june :) | 01:41 |
| fabo | --enable-geoip | 01:41 |
| Riddell | he has used --enable-geoip, that's what I don't understand | 01:42 |
| fabo | Riddell: i can't really answer to that. ask him | 01:43 |
| fabo | maybe take a look at the README | 01:43 |
| fabo | The binary package *is* built to support it | 01:44 |
| fabo | however (the API is GPL, but data used from ARIN to generate the data files | 01:44 |
| fabo | is *not* DFSG compliant). | 01:44 |
| fabo | If you wish to use the GeoIP support, there are free | 01:44 |
| fabo | databases made available at the following URL ... | 01:44 |
| Riddell | fabo: so sounds like previously the data was installed but the program couldn't use it, now the program can use it but you have to download manually | 01:45 |
| fabo | Riddell: he proposed to download the database from website | 01:45 |
| Riddell | I'll ask the ubuntu release team if they care about this | 01:46 |
| fabo | ok | 01:46 |
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| danimo | Riddell: now that qt 4.2 is in edgy, can we either update qt-4.2-kdecopy or get rid of it? | 02:09 |
| Riddell | danimo: I was minded to keep it incase we needed to use it in feisty | 02:11 |
| danimo | ok | 02:13 |
| danimo | Riddell: is threre a featureplan for feisty already? | 02:13 |
| Riddell | nope | 02:13 |
| Riddell | but we're open to suggestions | 02:13 |
| danimo | ok | 02:13 |
| === Hobbsee suggests fixing the world. | ||
| Hobbsee | and learning how to spell | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | oh damn. it is feisty. | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | that so doesnt look right | 02:15 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if it's spelt differently in aus | ||
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| === danimo thinks edgy is in a real good shape now | ||
| danimo | for kubuntu it's probably more suitable for endusers than dapper | 02:18 |
| danimo | too bad I managed to break device mounting on my system | 02:18 |
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| === danimo made sure it's only on his system and because of the way he installed edgy | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: you broke it! bad danimo! | 02:20 |
| Riddell | fabo: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/ktorrent.debdiff | 02:22 |
| Riddell | I presume 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 is larger than 2.0.3-0ubuntu1 | 02:22 |
| Riddell | dpkg --compare-versions 2.0.3-0ubuntu1 lt 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 says it is | 02:25 |
| === Riddell uploads | ||
| imbrandon | hum i need the edgy xubuntu,edubuntu,ubuntu wallpapers | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | are they in a package i can grap ? or somewhere on the web | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | $distro-artwork ? | 02:26 |
| apokryphos | kde has a kdewallpapers; /me checks if the others do too | 02:27 |
| Riddell | there's an edubuntu-artwork and xubuntu-artwork | 02:28 |
| apokryphos | don't seem too, they're likely in what Hobbsee suggested | 02:28 |
| Riddell | actually I think xubuntu-artwork is for usplash only | 02:28 |
| apokryphos | s/too/to/ | 02:28 |
| Riddell | need to ask dholbach where ubuntu wallpaper is these days | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | gah okies | 02:28 |
| apokryphos | hm, or just empty http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xubuntu-artwork&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386 | 02:28 |
| apokryphos | ah, there's an edgy-wallpapers, edy-community-wallpapers | 02:30 |
| === apokryphos is out for a bit | ||
| imbrandon | kwwii, ping | 02:30 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, wanna guiney pig the new art.ubuntu.com site before i poke sabdfl ? | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | brb more mt dew | 02:35 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: Ok, I solved my problem without help from chanserv, looks like Celestia doesn't like g++ newer than 3.4 :p | 02:35 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: bah, wasn't me! | 02:35 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: but it would be helpful if somebody could lend me a hand on that issue | 02:35 |
| danimo | Hobbsee: any clue who knows the hal stuff? | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: sure sure, that's what they all say.... | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: anyone but me. i'd poke Riddell | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | Tm_T: ahhh. tell it to update | 02:35 |
| danimo | Riddell: can you help me? | 02:36 |
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| Riddell | danimo: what's up? | 02:52 |
| danimo | Riddell: I wanted to find out why usb mounting doesn't work | 02:56 |
| danimo | Riddell: I installed my system via debbootstrap, and I assume something is missing because of that | 02:56 |
| Riddell | danimo: edgy or dapper? | 02:56 |
| danimo | Riddell: edgy | 02:57 |
| Riddell | you need libhal and dbus and hal and a running system dbus | 02:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: the kded dialog appears, but if I click "ok", it just tells "unknown url" | 02:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: ack, up and running | 02:57 |
| Riddell | does it say what the URL is? | 02:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: nope | 03:01 |
| Riddell | danimo: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed? | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: should k-d depend on ubuntu-base? | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | er, ubuntu-minimal? | 03:03 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: seems not to | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: indeed. at this point, im asking if it should | 03:04 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: seems we do want ubuntu-minimal, yes, else you dont necessarily get upstart installed. | 03:05 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: I generally just trust kamion on these matters | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: the same thing was being discussed w.r.t ubuntu-desktop, with the possibility of getting no sysvinit or upstart | 03:08 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: let's see it! | 03:10 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: then we'll follow what they do | 03:10 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, hehe ok one sec, lemme sync one last thing | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hmmm okay, they havent changed it yet | 03:13 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, http://art-staging.ubuntu.com/ ( seems to be really slow right now, dunno if thats becouse of the system its on or the bandwidth to the DC ) | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, upload an image or two and test it out | 03:14 |
| kwwii | I'll do that | 03:14 |
| kwwii | once it opens :p | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | thanks ;) | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | yea i'm thinking the DC computers are really bogged down for some reason | 03:14 |
| imbrandon | dunno why its so slow, only started doing that the last 1hour or so | 03:15 |
| kwwii | I like the bg image :-) nice | 03:16 |
| apokryphos | so what ever did happen with smart? Has it been postponed or its more major implementation been cancelled? | 03:17 |
| imbrandon | ;P i dident wanna use the old brown | 03:17 |
| imbrandon | since its for all the deritives | 03:17 |
| danimo | Riddell: yes | 03:17 |
| danimo | Riddell: kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-minimal are installed | 03:18 |
| Riddell | danimo: I'm out of ideas then | 03:18 |
| Riddell | mhb: is there a bug report for your hwdb strings issue? | 03:19 |
| danimo | Riddell: is there a diagramm on the process that could help me debugging this issue? | 03:19 |
| danimo | Riddell: I dislike the idea of reinstalling my production system | 03:20 |
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| Riddell | danimo: not that I know of | 03:23 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: created an account, logged in, uploading now | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | cool | 03:28 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: the upload interface is amazing | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | yea tons of options | 03:28 |
| imbrandon | it auto scales the images too and makes | 03:29 |
| kwwii | I read that | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | diffrent sized wallpapers like you upload 1600x1200 and it make 800x600 1024x768 etc | 03:29 |
| imbrandon | and the thumbnail | 03:29 |
| kwwii | hehe, cool | 03:30 |
| kwwii | so is the site only for wallpapers? | 03:30 |
| imbrandon | it will handle any images and sounds | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | but geared for wallpaper | 03:32 |
| kwwii | cool | 03:32 |
| kwwii | the file uploaded ok | 03:32 |
| kwwii | it is really slow though | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | yea thats the computer its on, they gave me a crappy staging site to work with heh | 03:34 |
| imbrandon | it seems | 03:34 |
| imbrandon | sabdfl is in priv now looking it over also ( but he's on a call or something too at the same time so kinda slow to respond ) | 03:34 |
| imbrandon | hopefully we can make this liveish by the end of the weekend ( i hope ) | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | i would love for this to have art ready for the edgy release | 03:35 |
| imbrandon | ( would stifle some of the stuff on the art -ML about the community artwork too ) | 03:35 |
| kwwii | hehe | 03:36 |
| kwwii | it would be a better forum than a wiki to really look at different kind of artwork | 03:36 |
| imbrandon | yea | 03:37 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, add a comment to your image , just to test the commenting system | 03:45 |
| imbrandon | i dunno if you get notification of it or not | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 03:46 |
| Riddell | hi Tonio_ | 03:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hi :) I have packages ready with Sime patches, should we ask on devel for upload ? I have a kds upload to workarround the kde bug with konqueror and audiocde urls too | 03:47 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I saw an update to the wiki page by simon yesterday, does that mean there's even more patches? | 03:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no I didn't use those patche, but the previous version | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | in fact the latest update was to workarround a konqueror bug, but I have another way to workarround with kds | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | I reported the bug, and added the trik in kds with the previous version of the patches | 03:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: your workaround looks to be turning on preloading in konqueror | 03:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes | 03:49 |
| Riddell | that's too big a change without us having time to test it | 03:49 |
| Tonio_ | preloading and keep one session everytime | 03:49 |
| Riddell | it also adds instability | 03:49 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: how does one add something to the "kubuntu" album? or is that only for official kubuntu stuff which is included in the release? | 03:49 |
| Tonio_ | what adds instability ? Sime's patches ? | 03:50 |
| imbrandon | only offical stuff was my plan | 03:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the point is what is the worst, something that doesn't work at all or something that causes a konq crash on very rare occasions ? ;) | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if we release without audiocd support, lots of people will complain that, honnestly | 03:51 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: might want to add a "best of community" or "most often viewed from community" or even just a "random community" pic next to those, so that one knows that the community stuff is there | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | yea there is a random community on the right , but it needs to be prominate | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | yea | 03:53 |
| imbrandon | s/right/left | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what to do then ? don't change anything and release as it is ? | 03:54 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: to be honest, the slowness of the machine makes it hard to really test :8 | 03:55 |
| kwwii | :( | 03:55 |
| imbrandon | yea its discouraging | 03:55 |
| kwwii | I assume that is just an issue with the staging server | 03:56 |
| kwwii | assume=hope | 03:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I really don't want to change the way we load konqueror at this stage | 03:56 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: and there's kaudiocreator for novices and people who know what they're doing can type audiocd:/ themselves | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, so you would suggest to discard those uploads for edgy+1 ? | 03:58 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, yea i'm doing a install on my imbrandon.com to make sure | 03:58 |
| imbrandon | but i'm pretty positive it is | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: or do we include the latest patch, and keep the old ones for fiesty ? | 03:59 |
| Tonio_ | that's another possibility | 03:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: we could include the latest patch, if you can convince the release team to let them in | 04:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, but the problem with latest patches if that they'll cause issues for people using 2 cd drives..... | 04:00 |
| Tonio_ | that's why I searched another workarround..... | 04:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but as long as kaudiocreator is still there, maybe we can release as it is... | 04:01 |
| Riddell | I think that would be easiest | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, let's focus on fiesty then... | 04:02 |
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| imbrandon | kwwii, yea its definately the server , i'm downloading a copy to upload to my server and its only going at 233B/s | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | LOL | 04:06 |
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| kwwii | hehe | 04:12 |
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| imbrandon | heya el | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | hi el | 04:14 |
| el | hi imbrandon, hey Tonio_ | 04:15 |
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| danimo | heya el! | 04:23 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 04:27 |
| Tonio_ | let's clean my ubuntu box.... | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | I'm not affraid hehe :) | 04:38 |
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| Hobbsee | hey el :) | 04:40 |
| el | heya Hobbsee :) | 04:41 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon: http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/capture5.png | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | rockin | 05:40 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: what are we looking at? | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kaffeine without audio | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, no more audio in kaffeine | 05:41 |
| Riddell | mmm, interesting | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: still have to remove the servicemenus | 05:41 |
| Riddell | might get a few complaints about that | 05:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I know, as we did with kcontrol removal | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: people will get used to it, and new users will get simplicity | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's just for testing, we need to debate that at uds, that's why I'm preparing the stuff | 05:42 |
| imbrandon | rather than trying to play an audio cd ( that is broke ) and file a bug | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: ah, and look at this : | 05:43 |
| ubotu | Announcement from my owner (Seveas): TheFridge | 05:43 |
| fabo | Riddell: Qt 3.3.7, 4.1.5 and 4.2.1 Now Available | 05:43 |
| fabo | security update | 05:44 |
| Riddell | fabo: erk | 05:44 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/capture6.png | 05:44 |
| Riddell | fabo: mm, if it's just that patch then that's on my todo for today | 05:44 |
| fabo | ok | 05:44 |
| Riddell | maybe I should bump it up my todo | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, i cant read french ;) | 05:45 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: look at the icons.... amarok and k3b are in the right click menu | 05:46 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 05:46 |
| Tonio_ | amarok is fully implemented, k3b needs to be patched yet | 05:47 |
| imbrandon | wow i learned something crazy today, kwwii newz2000 ( canonical webmaster ) jane siber and me are all from the same part of the country ( ok that was silly but i'm tired ) | 05:48 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:48 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: lol | 05:48 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: we are all rednecks :p | 05:49 |
| imbrandon | hahaha yea | 05:49 |
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| imbrandon | makes an awesom ubuntu-midwest loco team lineup though ( even if two of you can only be honorary members lol ) | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, ^ | 05:50 |
| kwwii | hehe | 05:51 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/capture7.png | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: final target, which is in my opinion by far cleaner than the current context menu | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | 2 actions -> 2 entries | 05:52 |
| Tonio_ | using the most adapted softwares | 05:52 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, yup, looks great, i agree | 05:52 |
| Riddell | fabo: where did you find the new qt releases? | 05:53 |
| Tonio_ | bah I need to remove kmplayer mimetypes for context menus too..... | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, btw i did a fresh install of Kubutnu RC on my ppc lappy last night, everything went perfect as far as i can tell just fyi | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | on audiofiles | 05:54 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: yay! | 05:56 |
| mhb | Riddell: so what will happen with the hwdb-kde translations (since it's after langpack deadline)? | 05:58 |
| Riddell | mhb: I uploaded a fix, it's not been accepted yet | 05:59 |
| mhb | Riddell: ok | 05:59 |
| mhb | Riddell: great ... what about the other one (systemsettings failed to load .mo) ? | 06:00 |
| Riddell | mhb: still working on that | 06:01 |
| Riddell | but qt security now takes priority | 06:01 |
| mhb | ok | 06:02 |
| mhb | I'm sure you'll manage to fix that before the final release | 06:02 |
| Riddell | you have such faith in me :) | 06:02 |
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| mhb | Riddell: yes, I *really* don't want to explain to all the Czech Kubuntu users why keyboard is labeled "Users&Groups" | 06:04 |
| mhb | :o) | 06:05 |
| fabo | Riddell: informed by trolltech mailing list and http://www.trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2006-10-19.5434451733 | 06:06 |
| Riddell | fabo: hmm, not the best of descriptions | 06:08 |
| fabo | Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394192 | 06:10 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 394192 in libqt4-core "Security: integer overflow in pixmap handling (CVE-2006-4811)" [Critical,Open] | 06:11 |
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| Tonio_ | toma: ping ? | 07:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 07:18 |
| Lure | Tonio_: pong | 07:18 |
| toma | Tonio_: hi | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | hey :) | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | I may need help concerning a k3b patch... | 07:19 |
| Tonio_ | here is the idea : adding a command line option to be able to do k3b --device /dev/scd0 for example | 07:20 |
| Tonio_ | I have been able to add the option in the code, but I don't find the method to call to to go the device... and k3b code isn't that simple :) | 07:20 |
| Tonio_ | anyone of you fancy helping me ? | 07:21 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I can download code... | 07:21 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay | 07:21 |
| toma | Tonio_: i lack time this evening | 07:21 |
| Lure | Tonio_: what action would you like to perform? | 07:21 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: you mean ? | 07:22 |
| Tonio_ | toma: no pb | 07:22 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: well the idea is that if you open a device directly, k3b opens with the good mode selected (can be a dvd or an audiocd) | 07:22 |
| Lure | what should this command line option do? just select the appropriate writer or perform some action? | 07:22 |
| Tonio_ | that works when you click on the cd device in k3b UI | 07:22 |
| Tonio_ | I'll like to be able to do the same with a command line | 07:22 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: so multiple writer support? | 07:23 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: this command line should jsut open k3b on the device | 07:23 |
| Tonio_ | nothing more | 07:23 |
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| Tonio_ | k3b is able to choose the good context depending what the device is | 07:23 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: bah RC release :) | 07:23 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: want a dcc of the package ? that'll be better | 07:24 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: dcc sent, you have to accept :) | 07:24 |
| toma | btw, except for the xorg-ati driver, the upgrade from dapper to edgy went flawless! great work guys! | 07:25 |
| Lure | Tonio_: much better ;-) | 07:25 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: so the idea is just to reproduce the call done when you click on a media device | 07:25 |
| Tonio_ | that calls something, I would like to do the same call with the shell... | 07:25 |
| Tonio_ | there is no dcop call possible, I already checked..... | 07:25 |
| Tonio_ | should be hard but I'm a bit lost in the code :) | 07:26 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: looks like it is in ./src/k3bdirview.cpp | 07:28 |
| Lure | Tonio_: setWriterDevice() looks goot candidate | 07:28 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: omg, how did you find so fast ? ;) | 07:29 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: Writer ? can be a simple cd drive | 07:29 |
| Lure | grep -i device * | 07:29 |
| Lure | then search for obvious canddiates ;-) | 07:29 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: not sure that's the good one but we can check | 07:29 |
| Lure | when do you need CD device? | 07:30 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that's for audiocd ripping | 07:30 |
| Lure | oh, for ripping | 07:30 |
| Tonio_ | when you open a device in k3b, the context depends on the menu | 07:30 |
| Tonio_ | s/menu/content | 07:30 |
| Tonio_ | so the idea is to be able to call k3b with any kind of device | 07:30 |
| Tonio_ | can be done by clicking, should be possible in command line though :) | 07:31 |
| Lure | Tonio_: where do you choose device? (I only have one on laptop though) | 07:31 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: click on it :) | 07:31 |
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| Tonio_ | when you click on the device, and a cd is in, k3b sets the context depending of the cd content | 07:32 |
| Tonio_ | I would just like to reproduce the same click but with a command line | 07:32 |
| Lure | Tonio_: true - I always use shortcuts at bottom | 07:32 |
| Lure | will try on my desktop with two devices | 07:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I don't think that's necessary :) | 07:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: We only need to find what is called when we click on a device | 07:34 |
| Tonio_ | KAction* actionLoad = new KAction( i18n("L&oad"), "", 0, this, SLOT(slotLoadDisk()) | 07:34 |
| Tonio_ | interesting | 07:34 |
| Lure | Tonio_: there is also setDevice() | 07:35 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yeah just seen that, I'm investigating | 07:35 |
| Lure | Tonio_: K3bDirView::slotDiskInfoReady is interesting - here decision is made what to do depending on type | 07:36 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yes, but that'll be done automatically, I need the "before" thing :) | 07:36 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: just found a bug hehe, "load" ejects and "eject" loads........ stupid :) | 07:37 |
| Tonio_ | maybe that's just me | 07:37 |
| Tonio_ | lure m_noViewView->setDevice( dev ) seems what I need | 07:39 |
| Lure | Tonio_: showDevice is interesting: it triggers detect disk info, which then does type stuff | 07:40 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it is also public method so you can call from outside | 07:40 |
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| Lure | setDevice only sets devices, but does not perform any action on it | 07:41 |
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| instructor | Kopete doesn't connect on RC? | 07:43 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure_: setDevice is defined 30 times in .h files...... | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | dunno which one to use | 07:56 |
| Lure_ | Tonio_: use K3bDirView::showDevice or K3bDirView::showDiskInfo | 07:57 |
| Lure_ | they call appropriate setDevice() in slotDetectDiskInfo | 07:58 |
| Tonio_ | Lure_: yeah but they don't do what I want | 07:58 |
| Lure_ | Tonio_: why not? | 07:58 |
| instructor | Is it true that kopete doesn't work in RC? | 07:58 |
| Lure_ | they open the apporpriate device | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | Lure_: yes but they do more | 07:59 |
| abattoir | instructor: it works fine here | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | I just need to open it, not displaying infos | 07:59 |
| Lure_ | instructor: works for me | 07:59 |
| instructor | OK | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | Lure_: unless I missunderstand you.... | 07:59 |
| instructor | Lure_: Ok jumping to RC then :) | 07:59 |
| Lure_ | Tonio_: you said that you want the same as clicking on disk - and this is what it does | 08:00 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure_: showDevice may, yes, but showDiskInfo will de more..... | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | let's try with showDevice | 08:00 |
| instructor | Should I dist-upgrade from the CLI or is adept ok? | 08:00 |
| Lure_ | Tonio_: exactrly - it is up to you what is better | 08:00 |
| Lure_ | instructor: from dapper? | 08:01 |
| instructor | From Beta 2 | 08:01 |
| Lure_ | instructor: adept should be fine | 08:01 |
| Riddell | instructor: commend line | 08:03 |
| Riddell | Lure_: adept seems to have problems | 08:03 |
| Lure_ | Riddell: really? dist-upgrade? | 08:04 |
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| instructor | Riddell: Kill KDE or adist-upgrade from tty1 should be sufficient? | 08:05 |
| nixternal | argh konversation + mass amount of channels == not good at all | 08:09 |
| instructor | nixternal: :) | 08:09 |
| instructor | Excess Flood? | 08:09 |
| nixternal | i have to manually /who each channel | 08:09 |
| nixternal | ya | 08:09 |
| nixternal | i had to shut off the /who in settings just to connect | 08:09 |
| instructor | Needs scripting eh? | 08:09 |
| nixternal | looks like it, or upstream fixing | 08:09 |
| nixternal | i myself am all for upstream fixing | 08:09 |
| nixternal | creating scripts to fix issues is to much like our mortal enemy | 08:10 |
| nixternal | you can only shore up the holes so much, before the structure gets weak and crumbles | 08:10 |
| instructor | Oh I meant that konversation needs scripting support so that you can have a random delay for a /who when you connect | 08:10 |
| nixternal | that would work | 08:11 |
| nixternal | is there a way to do a silent who? | 08:11 |
| instructor | Oh Why isn't kdesud working? | 08:12 |
| Tonio_ | :q! | 08:13 |
| Tonio_ | oups | 08:13 |
| instructor | Heehee | 08:13 |
| Riddell | instructor: just leave it and it'll happily kill itself | 08:14 |
| instructor | Riddell: I think it does that before I start the machine | 08:15 |
| instructor | Isn't the point of it to keep the password for kdesu for a short time | 08:15 |
| instructor | Doesn't work at all with me | 08:15 |
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| n8k99 | help me find out why my sound keeps dying | 08:27 |
| n8k99 | please | 08:27 |
| instructor | n8k99: Have you asked in #kubuntu ? | 08:27 |
| n8k99 | is #kubuntu supporting edgy? | 08:28 |
| instructor | no that's #ubuntu+1 | 08:29 |
| n8k99 | thanks | 08:29 |
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| nixternal | imbrandon: ping? | 09:21 |
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| ZeroCool | Riddell: when are they going to fix the Monitor & Display , User Management and Disk & Filesystem module CAN'T load bug? | 09:47 |
| Riddell | ZeroCool: I can't recreate it so I can't fix it | 09:47 |
| ZeroCool | its post on launch pad.. | 09:47 |
| ZeroCool | some say its a python issue | 09:48 |
| ZeroCool | Riddell: do you have just the distro (installed) software install on your test machine | 09:49 |
| Riddell | ZeroCool: I have edgy on my machines yes | 09:50 |
| ZeroCool | not what I meant, is it a virgin system only | 09:50 |
| ZeroCool | or is a install all KDE apps, and see where it breaks... | 09:51 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: is it hardware-specific? | 09:51 |
| mhb | (the bug) | 09:51 |
| ZeroCool | well, I back down from the 64bit version (too buggy ) few bugs on the 32bit ver | 09:51 |
| Riddell | mhb: I doubt it, it'll be something breaking with system settings/kdesu+sudo/libpythonise | 09:51 |
| Riddell | ZeroCool: it was reinstalled for rc testing yesterday | 09:52 |
| ZeroCool | 32bit runs faster | 09:52 |
| mhb | Riddell: well it could be 64bit specific,that's common | 09:52 |
| ZeroCool | what was | 09:52 |
| ZeroCool | I run 32bit only | 09:52 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: really? | 09:52 |
| ZeroCool | yes | 09:52 |
| ZeroCool | 64bit too buggy | 09:52 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: well I'm going to have a running virgin system in a few minutes ... I can check it | 09:53 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: bug number? | 09:53 |
| ZeroCool | cool | 09:53 |
| ZeroCool | how do I find it by my email address on launch pad | 09:53 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: if you're logged in, click on your name in the top right corner | 09:54 |
| ZeroCool | they should have a menu selection item, when you login its hightlighted all the bugs sent in | 09:54 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: then choose Bugs on the left menu | 09:54 |
| ZeroCool | okay trying | 09:54 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: and then choose "Reported" on the top left menu | 09:55 |
| ZeroCool | okay, I in the main menu "tracking system" | 09:56 |
| ZeroCool | here is the link: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135725 | 09:57 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 135725 in general "Monitor & Display Module can't load" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:57 |
| ZeroCool | please note: its also effects uers management, disk & fileystem module as well. | 09:57 |
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| ZeroCool | running kubuntu edgy on a AMD64 bit 4000+ laptop with ATI X600 1.0GB RAM ( running kubuntu 32bit) | 09:58 |
| ZeroCool | Riddell: please note: I installed KDE Multimedia, KDE Graphics, KDE Utilities, Koffice, KDE Desktop extras.... wanted to try all the apps... then dump the ones, I did not like | 09:59 |
| Riddell | ZeroCool: you think it broke after installing apps? | 10:00 |
| ZeroCool | YES>>> somewhere turning the process.. | 10:00 |
| ZeroCool | something may of have gotten overwritten | 10:00 |
| ZeroCool | that when I have some said to re-install python | 10:00 |
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| ZeroCool | first remove all, then re-install | 10:01 |
| nixternal_ | imbrandon: you around? | 10:01 |
| nixternal_ | konversation has a nasty connect bug that causes excess floods. psn just released a fix to the channel.cpp | 10:01 |
| ZeroCool | Riddell: also did all my updates, as usually... notice that the network connection goes sleep, like the other night in IRC, saw the user list disappear | 10:03 |
| ZeroCool | then did a ping to ibm.com, could not reach them.. | 10:04 |
| ZeroCool | re-set the linksys router, and rebooted.. all fine again | 10:04 |
| mhb | Riddell: is there a list of packages that someone suggests for inclusion in the CD? | 10:05 |
| mhb | Riddell: I know I'm translator-centric but I'd like to include Kdict in the next one (Ubuntu has a similar tool too) | 10:06 |
| ZeroCool | Riddell: please also note: the fonts are much smaller when accessing the system setting.. | 10:07 |
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| fdoving | mhb: i like 'dict word' in the konqueror address line :) | 10:09 |
| fdoving | or in the 'Run Command' (alt+f2) dialog. | 10:09 |
| mhb | kwwii: is the CD boot splash going to get a new Edgy splash? This one looks "dappery" - http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/Kubuntu%206.10%20RC/1.gif | 10:09 |
| mhb | fdoving: that's not what Kdict is about | 10:09 |
| kwwii | mhb: amd64? | 10:10 |
| fdoving | mhb: i know, but 'dict word' is nice too :) | 10:10 |
| mhb | kwwii: I think all arch CDs look the same (i386 RC looked like that too) | 10:11 |
| mhb | kwwii: it's the CD boot splash | 10:12 |
| kwwii | mhb: on amd64 I think it defaults to 16 colors | 10:12 |
| kwwii | otherwise there is a problem | 10:12 |
| kwwii | and/or nobody told me that this was the case | 10:12 |
| kwwii | I tried to make the new logo in 16 colors but it did not work at all | 10:13 |
| mhb | fdoving: dict word triggers "locate" here :oI | 10:13 |
| fdoving | mhb: oh.. weird. it's enabled by default in my clean edgy install. | 10:14 |
| mhb | fdoving: my install's no virgin anymore :o) I'll take a look at it when I have a clean install ready | 10:15 |
| fdoving | you actually have to put it in the konq address line.. you can't use Run Command.. | 10:15 |
| fdoving | the settings is in konq -> settings -> configure konqueror -> web shortcuts | 10:15 |
| mhb | kwwii: the first screen I see when booting from the CD looks exactly like in the screenshot | 10:16 |
| mhb | kwwii: and it's i386 RC | 10:16 |
| kwwii | bad | 10:16 |
| kwwii | bad, bad, bad | 10:16 |
| mhb | kwwii: I understand you already made some artwork for the CD boot splash screen, right? | 10:18 |
| fdoving | mhb: you might also have to use dict:word, as that's the kubuntu default. i have changed my separator to ' '. that might be it. | 10:18 |
| kwwii | mhb: I tried to make the 256 color version work in 16 colors because of the problems with amd64 | 10:18 |
| kwwii | at least on installed machines other than amd64 you should see the 256 color verson | 10:19 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: do you know anything about this? | 10:19 |
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| mhb | fdoving: that works, thanks :o) | 10:20 |
| mhb | fdoving: seems useful for english-speaking countries | 10:21 |
| fdoving | mhb: you can create your own similar shortcuts I have a norwegian one, searching a norwegian online dirctionary. just chaning the first word. 'dictno:word' for example. | 10:22 |
| fdoving | of course, you need a online dictionary, and internet access. | 10:22 |
| mhb | fdoving: but the main advantage of Kdict is that it is able to make use of the DICT servers, which we (translators) can use to build our Ubuntu dictionary upon | 10:22 |
| fdoving | with dict you can have stuff locally. | 10:22 |
| fdoving | mhb: understand. | 10:22 |
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| marseillai_ | Riddell: there is not freenx in edgy ? | 10:28 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: I tried to replicate that bug on a clean Kubuntu machine | 10:30 |
| mhb | ZeroCool: and failed ... it works fine | 10:31 |
| ZeroCool | ??? | 10:31 |
| ZeroCool | how can this be.. | 10:31 |
| ZeroCool | mhb: please install the following and see where it breaks.. | 10:31 |
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| Riddell | mhb: kubuntu meetings are probably the best place to suggest applications | 10:32 |
| Riddell | kwwii: about what? | 10:32 |
| kwwii | Riddell: that the liveCD boots with the old usplash | 10:33 |
| ZeroCool | mhb: install koffice, kde utilities, kde, kde multimedia, kde graphics, kde addons, kde games... (all major kde extras, and add-ons. ) | 10:33 |
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| Riddell | kwwii: only on amd64 I'd hope | 10:34 |
| Riddell | kwwii: the gfx splash is 16 bit too | 10:34 |
| ryanakca | nobody knows the answer in #ubuntu+1, so, Why can't I play *.mp3 in amarok anymore? (Yes, I have libxine-extracodecs installed) | 10:35 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: do you have libmad installed? | 10:35 |
| kwwii | mhb: sounds like a funky bug to me | 10:36 |
| nixternal_ | Riddell: http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/konversation.debdiff <- did i do that correct, or did i mess it up? | 10:36 |
| kwwii | Riddell: you mean that gfx boots with 16bit? or 16 colors, I guess you mean | 10:37 |
| kwwii | erm, gfx-boot | 10:37 |
| nixternal_ | i am trying to fix konversation so i can join up here. but this auto /who flood bug with konversation is killing me | 10:37 |
| mhb | Riddell: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/Kubuntu%206.10%20RC/1.gif | 10:37 |
| Riddell | kwwii: I mean gfx-boot it 16 colour | 10:37 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: yep | 10:37 |
| kwwii | Riddell: that would be the problem then | 10:37 |
| kwwii | is grub graphical by default now? | 10:38 |
| mhb | Riddell: the old one or the new one? That's what I saw today on i386 RC install | 10:38 |
| mhb | kwwii: sadly not yet | 10:38 |
| kwwii | this is what happens when you only can use yaboot | 10:38 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: grub graphical? | 10:38 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'm really bad with c++.... 2 hours to get the patch written lol | 10:38 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: you had the patch applied while taking the debdiff | 10:38 |
| nixternal_ | yes | 10:38 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: sure, suse did it :-) | 10:38 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you got it? | 10:39 |
| ryanakca | heh, sounds interesting | 10:39 |
| nixternal_ | oh no..i didn't apply the patch, but it was located in the debian/patches | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: building | 10:39 |
| nixternal_ | i dont' think | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: wanna see the patch ? | 10:39 |
| Riddell | http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/scaled/Kubuntu%206.10%20RC/2.gif has the nice splash | 10:39 |
| Lure | Tonio_: sure | 10:39 |
| nixternal_ | Riddell: i see what i messed up | 10:40 |
| mhb | Riddell: well, yes | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/32 | 10:40 |
| ZeroCool | so, do I need to re-install | 10:40 |
| nixternal_ | there is no need for the patch if i had applied it already | 10:40 |
| mhb | Riddell: I was actually talking about the CD bootloader splash | 10:40 |
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| mhb | ZeroCool: I can't test the packages today, sorry | 10:41 |
| ZeroCool | k | 10:43 |
| ZeroCool | I was hoping some of these updates would fix it.. | 10:44 |
| mhb | kwwii: so what about the CD bootsplash (ISOLINUX splash)? | 10:45 |
| mhb | kwwii: boot loader splash | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ../../src/k3bapplication.cpp:290: error: incomplete type 'K3bDirView' used in nested name specifier | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | any idea what I'm missing ? | 10:46 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am just looking into this - problem is that you are calling it as if it would be static, but it is not | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ah..... well I'm not able to do more, hope you can help :) | 10:46 |
| Lure | Tonio_: need to find where is K3bDirView object created and then use that object | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | hard to spec spannish if you never learned :) same for me with cpp | 10:47 |
| kwwii | mhb: well, it is 16 color, I guess and we have no nice 16 color graphic | 10:47 |
| kwwii | and making the 256 color one work with 16 colors will never happen | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: look ./src/k3bdirview.cpp | 10:47 |
| kwwii | sooooo...the only thing I can really think to do is to make a simple 2D version using the official logo, etc. | 10:48 |
| kwwii | not sure if it is not too late already | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: the class definition is in ./src/k3b.h | 10:48 |
| Lure | Tonio_: you need to do something like this: m_mainWindow->mainWindow()->showDevice( args->url(0) ); | 10:50 |
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| mhb | kwwii: oh well, it's no big deal anyway | 10:51 |
| kwwii | mhb: acutally it is, and if I had known about it earlier we might have fixed it | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | twice mainwindow ? | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: m_mainWindow->showDevice( args->url(0) ); that's not valid ? | 10:52 |
| Lure | yes | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: hum, okay testing | 10:53 |
| nixternal_ | Riddell: http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/konversation.debdiff | 10:53 |
| nixternal_ | i think that one is correct | 10:53 |
| Lure | in k3bapplication, you have m_mainWindow which is K3bMainWindow, in K3bMainWindow you have then mainWindow() method that returns you K3bDirList | 10:53 |
| seaLne | anyone know how to build a dapper pbuilder that uses 355? | 10:53 |
| seaLne | oh actually it might be working | 10:54 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: needs the name of the patch in the changelog and a bug reference | 10:54 |
| nixternal_ | gotcha | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay I'm testing with your command then | 10:54 |
| Riddell | seaLne: pbuilder --save-after-login login is your friend | 10:54 |
| Riddell | at last it's my friend | 10:54 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: it compiles? that is suprising... ;-) | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: bah I'm testing :) | 10:55 |
| fdoving | Riddell: is it possible to fix bug 67080 before release? | 10:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67080 in kdeutils "[Edgy] dependencies conflict with kubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67080 | 10:55 |
| Riddell | fdoving: I don't see a way to fix that | 10:56 |
| fdoving | Riddell: removing klaptopdaemon from kdeutils meta isn't possible? | 10:56 |
| Riddell | fdoving: it is part of kdeutils | 10:57 |
| fdoving | so editing the meta is not an option? | 10:57 |
| Riddell | that would defeat the point of the meta | 10:58 |
| fdoving | hum.. | 11:00 |
| nixternal_ | http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/konversation.debdiff | 11:01 |
| instructor | where are the sound system logs kept? | 11:01 |
| nixternal_ | i think that is better this time around | 11:01 |
| fdoving | i would, personally, prefer a kdeutils meta without klaptopdaemon, and have the possibility to install the rest of kdeutils, without removing kubuntu-desktop and kde-guidance-powermanager. | 11:02 |
| fdoving | bbl. food. | 11:02 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: I don't seem to be affected by that bug | 11:05 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: who made the patch and what does it do? | 11:05 |
| nixternal_ | psn from the konversation crew | 11:06 |
| nixternal_ | it is supposed to fix the excess flood issue with konversation and the /WHO command at connect | 11:06 |
| nixternal_ | i was only messing with patching stuff to see if i was going about it right, not to have it applied just yet | 11:07 |
| nixternal_ | i want to test and make sure it fixes the issue here. but i did create bug 67200 concerning it | 11:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67200 in konversation "[Edgy] v1.0.1 Excess Flood due to /WHO on connect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67200 | 11:07 |
| nixternal_ | and there is a kde bug 111129 i believe upstream | 11:07 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 111129 in general "auto /who causes konvi to disconnect from network" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111129 | 11:07 |
| nixternal_ | that bug is over a year old though, and is still in the "NEW' cat | 11:08 |
| nixternal_ | right now, in order for me to connect to irc with konversation, i have to turn off the /WHO | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ../../src/k3bapplication.cpp:290: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct K3bDirView'3bDirView' | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: with your code :) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ../../src/k3bapplication.cpp:290: error: invalid use of undefined type 'struct K3bDirView' | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | sorry for the bad copy/paste | 11:12 |
| Lure | Tonio_: strange... | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'm sure the principlke is good, just I don't how to call that correctly | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: miss a .h file maybe ? | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: there is a second issue -> ../../src/k3b.h:45: error: forward declaration of 'struct K3bDirView' | 11:14 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: yep try to include k3bdirview.h in k3bapplication.cpp | 11:18 |
| nixternal_ | now we shall see if there comes the excess flood | 11:18 |
| nixternal_ | Riddell: that patch works | 11:18 |
| nixternal | woohoo | 11:20 |
| nixternal | im back | 11:20 |
| Riddell | nixternal: that patch seems to do more than just change a default settings | 11:21 |
| mhb | goodnight all | 11:21 |
| nixternal | well, that change is from the channel.cpp file that psn uploaded to the konversation svn today | 11:21 |
| nixternal | hrmm..i just noted to them Riddell, that with that fix, i don't get all the hostmasks | 11:23 |
| nixternal | arg, he changed channel file and inputfilter file | 11:24 |
| instructor | mhb: night | 11:27 |
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| nixternal | the corrected debdiff i believe would now be http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/konversation.debdiff | 11:35 |
| nixternal | this one includes the channel.cpp & inputfilter.cpp fix | 11:35 |
| nixternal | if it works local, i will update, if i crash and burn, don't laugh at me to hard ;) | 11:35 |
| instructor | Feisty! | 11:39 |
| nixternal | like jjesse told me earlier, it is going to take the complete 7.04 release cycle for me to spell that correctly | 11:40 |
| instructor | don't fawn over it too much and it will come to you | 11:40 |
| nixternal | hehe | 11:40 |
| instructor | Gregarious Gorilla! | 11:40 |
| nixternal | i doubt we will ever have a gorilla | 11:41 |
| nixternal | we are into small, cute, and harmless animals | 11:41 |
| instructor | Galumphing gazelles? | 11:41 |
| instructor | Gargling Gargoyles | 11:41 |
| nixternal | as it is our cuteness that gets us in the door to everyones house, and from there we can take over | 11:41 |
| instructor | And brownitivity :) | 11:41 |
| nixternal | i mean, who wants to let in a Panther, a Tiger, or a Leopoard into their house. What was Apple thinking? | 11:41 |
| instructor | Segfried and Roy? | 11:42 |
| nixternal | im thinking that ;)\ | 11:42 |
| nixternal | i think i just came up with a marketing campaign for Ubuntu on that one | 11:42 |
| instructor | >_0 | 11:43 |
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| nixternal | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27566/ | 11:47 |
| nixternal | lol, there it is ;) | 11:47 |
| kwwii | nixternal: oh man....oh man | 11:50 |
| kwwii | bambi linux fun | 11:50 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | ../../src/k3bapplication.cpp:291: error: no matching function for call to 'K3bDirView::showDevice(KURL)' | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | ../../src/k3bdirview.h:69: note: candidates are: void K3bDirView::showDevice(K3bDevice::Device*) | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | that's better, I may just have to convert the parameter...... but how ? | 11:52 |
| Lure | better yes, but stil not there... | 11:53 |
| nixternal | hahaha kwwii | 11:54 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: you would probably need to go though the list with iterator | 11:56 |
| Lure | and compare with specified one | 11:57 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: argh... | 11:58 |
| Tonio_ | are you able to write this ? I am not | 11:58 |
| instructor | nixternal: Well if https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/beryl-by-default gets through Then bambi will look even better than the big kats | 12:00 |
| kwwii | hehe, no doubt | 12:01 |
| nixternal | you know, beryl reminds me of the stuff you drink before having an MRI | 12:02 |
| nixternal | the name just doesn't appeal to me | 12:02 |
| instructor | It's a Gem I think | 12:03 |
| kwwii | yeah, but it is a bad name | 12:03 |
| kwwii | it sounds like a 40 year old fat balding man | 12:03 |
| Lure | Tonio_: m_core->deviceManager()->deviceByName( args->url(0) ) | 12:03 |
| kwwii | erm...then again, that could almost be me :p | 12:03 |
| instructor | You'd prefer nipplet? | 12:03 |
| kwwii | I like beryl | 12:03 |
| kwwii | hehe | 12:04 |
| kwwii | yeah | 12:04 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: great, but does that set the device ? | 12:04 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just not sure if device is not found - you should test by putting in trash instead of device file | 12:04 |
| instructor | kwwii: http://static.kdenews.org/jr/akademy-2006-group-photo.html | 12:04 |
| instructor | :-) | 12:04 |
| Lure | Tonio_: this should return device - see k3bwriterselectionwidget.cpp: | 12:04 |
| instructor | I like strigi :) | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | ah okay ;) | 12:04 |
| Lure | K3bDevice::Device *current = k3bcore->deviceManager()->deviceByName( k3bcore->config()->readEntry( "current_writer" ) ); | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | perfect | 12:04 |
| kwwii | :-) | 12:04 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: m_mainWindow->mainWindow()->showDevice( m_core->deviceManager()->deviceByName( args->url(0) ) ); | 12:05 |
| kwwii | getting that many developers to stand still and take a photo together is not easy | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | should do like that then ? | 12:05 |
| Lure | Tonio_: ;-) | 12:05 |
| instructor | Ber gets you 6 hits all guys | 12:05 |
| instructor | Nip gets you none :( | 12:05 |
| kwwii | hehe | 12:05 |
| kwwii | I think in the end that the name for such functionality is unimportant, actually | 12:06 |
| kwwii | the effects themselves are the important part | 12:06 |
| instructor | They probably could have called it Pooca and peopel woould still be on the forums and IRC saying I NEED Pooca! | 12:07 |
| instructor | kwwii: seen the new one? | 12:07 |
| instructor | Where the application catches fire and burns to nothing when you close t? | 12:07 |
| instructor | it | 12:07 |
| kwwii | instructor: as I run ppc, I cannot really keep up on this stuff | 12:07 |
| kwwii | hehe, sounds awesome | 12:07 |
| instructor | Umm sure that's an excuse .. :) | 12:08 |
| kwwii | I have thought several times about buying a computer that will run "well" on linux including xgl stuff, but nobody can tell me which computer that is | 12:08 |
| instructor | Lubos is doing a nice bit of work on kwin-composite though :) | 12:08 |
| kwwii | I have actually bought two computers, installed linux and tried to get everything working with no luck (so I brought them back to the store, god love teh EU) | 12:09 |
| nixternal | Riddell: that patch fixes konversation, however i will have imbrandon look at it in detail, as this is his baby, i was only messing around learning how to do the patching stuff..thanks though for the help with it | 12:09 |
| instructor | Yeah I've done that here as well :) | 12:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I might fell a sleep - if I do not respond, drop me an e-mail and we will try to solve this tommorow | 12:10 |
| Lure | (actually today, just later) ;-) | 12:10 |
| nixternal | who is our resident digikam hacker? | 12:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'm not there tomorrow, but I'll send you the patch | 12:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: thanks for your help.... I'm so limited with c++ code...... :) | 12:11 |
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