=== Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:33] back [12:36] apokryphos: yes, well, the hotkeys are given a value, ex: XF86HOME or XF86VOLUP (or something simillar), and then I just used those keys in the keyboard shortcuts menu [12:36] right [12:38] XF86Mail, XF86HomePage ... I just reset those to kontact and FF... but I can't seem for find the ones that go for the mutilmedia ones... [12:39] they're given values by selecting your keyboard model in Regional & Languages [12:40] ryanakca: just to be clear, are you wondering what the XF86XXXX name should be for vol up/down, or are you looking for where to alter the "Volume Up/Down" shortcut? [12:40] where to alter [12:40] XF86(VolUp, VolDown, Mute) are already assigned... [12:41] ryanakca: from kmix global shortcuts, right? [12:41] just need to find where to stick them so that it controls the sound === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] ryanakca: ...and for other multimedia stuff I'd really just presume that it's set in each application (kaffeine, amarok) [12:43] though GNOME does handle that differently, I know (global multimedia shortcuts with "clever" app detection) [12:44] aha, found it... it used to be under System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcutes -> (Global shortcuts) iirc [12:44] I kind of presumed you were just looking there :P [12:45] lol === ryanakca never knew you could set it from the kmix settings [12:45] (and saw that it wasn't there, not sure if it should be though, really; kmix global shortcut definitely does just the job though) [12:46] now, while setting it up in kmix, for some reason, the systray icons went single row instead of double row like I set them... odd... [12:46] I'll ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kde or #kubuntu... [12:46] hm, can't reproduce here [12:47] apokryphos: settings, configure kmix, apply [12:47] ryanakca: not settings -> configure global shortcuts? [12:48] you can set the shortcuts in the configure global shortcuts [12:48] yeah [12:48] however, I had misclicked, so I hit apply, instead of ok. when I opened the Comfigure KMix dialog... [12:48] misclicked = Configure KMix instead of Configure Global Shortcuts [12:49] right [12:49] hitting apply there for me still doesn't do anything weird to the panel [12:49] odd... [12:49] the osd volume is from the kmilo service not kmix [12:50] nuku: so? [12:51] so the X86Vol* keys are binded there.. [12:51] i think they are even hardcoded.. [12:51] bash: kmilo: command not found [12:51] sorry, ignorance :) [12:51] hmm... [12:51] see kcontrol -> kde compontents -> services and stop kmilo === ryanakca wonders why it isn't working since recent upgrade [12:51] I'm pretty sure they're not [12:52] well, not that doesn't work point, just that it stopped working... [12:52] because I always used my volume multimedia key shortcuts specifically with amarok's global shortcuts [12:52] 'Unable to contact KDED'... [12:53] ok, this is wierd... reboot? [12:53] apokryphos: maybe amarok remaps them.. [12:54] I'm pretty sure they'd be remapped even in kmix [12:54] anyway this kmilo thing handles them in the first place.. === apokryphos stops being lazy and tries on his keyboard [12:56] ok, I'm going to reboot... === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-45.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] seems to work fine straight away, I guess they are set like that by default [12:59] though, again, there'd be no problem in such a case of altering the kmix global shortcuts (since it's just a front-end to alsamixer) [01:00] that is, in the case of things not working properly [01:00] ryanakca: have you updated your kde? [01:02] I ran dist-upgrade on tuesday, and I installed KDE4 as well [01:02] but I logged out-in, [01:02] that should be all you'd need [01:02] and KDE4 is installed seperately... [01:03] yeah [01:03] brb, reboot, now that the upgrade (started 3 min ago) is finished [01:03] edgy is w/ kde 3.5.5 right? [01:04] yeah [01:04] don't know how that was managed, but very cool ;-) [01:05] very carefully :) === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:20] apokryphos: nuku: wierd... works now... [01:20] hmm... just as wierd... kwallet works now [01:20] heh === ryanakca wonders... [01:21] KDE + upgrade = wierdness [01:21] log(out/in) usually does it... [01:27] that you could have those changes after an upgrade isn't surprising, but after a restart and not a logout would be [01:27] damn, I gotta head off to bed, see you :) [01:39] bug 66858 [01:39] Malone bug 66858 in digikam "[Edgy] Adding a Tag + Icon Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66858 [01:39] someone confirm that please [01:39] it happens on every install i have here [01:40] erm... sure [01:40] just a sec.. === ryanakca installs [01:40] all you have to do is, add a tag to an image, and then select the icon thing to add an icon, and it should segfault on you [01:41] kk === ryanakca thinks he's making progress in converting our school from 150$MS/comp to kubuntu... [01:43] I have all the comp teachers agreeing with me on the fact that it's stupid wasting money when you have a free (and better) alternative at hand... [01:43] omg [01:43] bug 67036 [01:43] Malone bug 67036 in Ubuntu "Getting Started - a gripe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67036 [01:43] will someone tell me, does that guy want us to write documentation to show him how to burn a damn iso? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] yes [01:45] nixternal: he does [01:45] holy shnikey this bug irks the hell out of me === ryanakca figured out how to burn a knoppix iso at the age of 11... [01:45] reject? :D [01:46] my daughter is 10 and she burns iso and music cds all day long [01:46] im lost [01:46] same here... [01:46] i don't want to reject, but maybe we should look at explaining an ISO in our documentation [01:46] this is a wishlist bug i feel [01:46] yeah [01:47] iirc, when you right click on an iso in windows, it gives you the option to burn it onto a disc... [01:48] I might look into doing that one day... === ryanakca twiddles while waiting for digikam to install [01:50] I wonder, could Kubuntu stuff (bug triaging, teaching classroom classes, packaging, making the rc logo, etc) could towards volunteer hours? (In ontario, we need 40h of volunteering for our high school diploma) [01:51] digikam is installed === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] sorry..was responding to that horrid bug [01:54] ryanakca: it entirely depends on the definition used by your school, but I don't see why not [01:54] hiya Hobbsee! [01:54] which bug? arent they all horid? :P [01:55] hey nixternal, Riddell [01:55] Riddell: who would I bug to sign the slip? [01:55] bug 67036 [01:55] Malone bug 67036 in Ubuntu "Getting Started - a gripe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67036 [01:55] ryanakca: me [01:55] Riddell: mail it to the canonical office in montreal? [01:55] Air Mail! :D [01:55] that guy says we should have a "hand holding document to help windows users create bootable cds from the iso files they download" [01:55] could do that too, if you need an insecure physical signature [01:55] actually, after i put it like that, i think we should have something === Riddell beds [01:56] insecure physical signature? [01:56] G'night === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] nixternal: yep :) [01:58] it buggered on you too? [01:58] ugh [01:58] bug 66858 [01:58] Malone bug 66858 in digikam "[Edgy] Adding a Tag + Icon Crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66858 [01:58] yep, crashed... [02:02] nixternal: hehe, I think you got the wrong 3 new features for ktorrent 2.0.3 ;-) [02:02] well, the NEWS file was blank, so that is what they get [02:03] nixternal: yeah, I've called them out openly about their crummy changelogs :D [02:03] nixternal: btw, they're increased download speeds, improved private tracker compatibility [02:03] fix it homer! [02:03] ;) [02:03] and the third one, I guess, is increased version number ;-) [02:03] you can edit da wiki === jdong hits shiny edit button [02:03] fix her up, as i did notice your name on their site for the ubuntu package ;) [02:04] hey jdong [02:05] hey Hobbsee === Hobbsee mutters about badgers and mushrooms [02:09] nixternal: all happy now :) [02:09] hehe [02:09] i need fo0d === Tonio_ [n=tonio@88.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] Sime: tested your patches, they are okay [02:10] Riddell: ping ? [02:10] mee too [02:11] Sime: I'll report the issue concerning konqueror segfault, so that once resolved, we can switch back to the previous patch version [02:11] Riddell: can we try to ping mdz maybe tomorrow to try to get those patches in ? === Jucato [n=Jucato@58.69.26.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-45.async.iserv.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === xtremxpert [n=benoit@Toronto-HSE-ppp3750409.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@202.107.195.52] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] can anybody reproduce bug 67044 ? [02:34] Malone bug 67044 in kaffeine "Kaffeine crashes when attempting to play CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67044 === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:40] ryanakca: nope [02:41] morning Hobbsee! [02:41] hey Jucato [02:41] hmmm, kk, ty (btw... attempting to play a cd when cd drive = empty... I might want to add that to the title...) === Hobbsee double checks that her cd drive is actually empty [02:48] lol === imbrandon idly wonders why you would try to play a cd in kaffeine when amarok is the audio player ( and there is kscd also ) [02:49] imbrandon: because you can :P [02:49] because its possible? [02:49] imbrandon: no clue... I was just wondering if it would work under kaffeine [02:51] hum, I really have to patch kaffeine to remove the audio features....... [02:51] that would avoid stupid bugs :) [02:51] because it's.. there? :) [02:51] Tonio_, my thoughts exactly [02:51] imbrandon I have a patched version here [02:51] works for me :) [02:52] well its a bit late now, but bring it to mtv [02:52] imbrandon that work my uds work, prepare the stuff to make multimedia simple so that we can play with it [02:52] imbrandon: why would you want to rip a cd in KAudioCreater CD ripper, when you can do so in K3b? [02:52] Tonio_, exactly [02:52] imbrandon I'm also patching k3b to replace kaudiocreator [02:52] ryanakca, i dont use kaudiocreator ;) [02:52] and allow good konqueror integration [02:53] and audiocd -> amarok != kscd [02:53] ;) [02:53] ryanakca: I plan to get kaudiocreator removed from kubuntu for edgy+1 [02:53] Tonio_: good [02:53] and kscd removed too, aswell as kaffeine simplified to get rid of audio functions [02:53] Tonio_, we just have to make sure it can rip mp3/ogg/flac and we're good [02:54] they are not supported much, unstable, and duplicate amarok [02:54] we'd better not become like gnome though [02:54] imbrandon it can [02:54] I tested widely [02:54] Hobbsee, how is having one app for one job gnome ;) [02:54] imbrandon the only problem is that there is no command line option to launch k3b opening the audio device [02:54] that's what I'm patching [02:54] k3b --device /dev/cdrom should be possible [02:54] imbrandon: well, it always occurs to me when i'm on a gnome based live cd how *little* software there is on it. [02:55] imbrandon: but one app for one job tends to be good [02:55] Hobbsee, few "supper" apps has always been the kde way [02:55] true [02:55] lots of little apps that do an indivudaul job is the gnome way [02:55] Hobbsee: 3 apps doing the same thing means -> 3 more bug reports -> 3 more time spend fixing them -> duplication is evil [02:55] Hobbsee: there are some apps hidden from the menu but are installed. like BitTorrent. [02:55] Tonio_: indeed :) i was meaning in the general case. === Hobbsee remembers saying the same thing for kwifimanager [02:56] Hobbsee: well I'm not against duplication, I just think we don't need to ship kaudiocreator and kscd [02:56] Hobbsee, trust me kde couldent be as dumbed down as gnome even if it tried [02:56] yeah, fair enough :) [02:56] especially while kaudiocrator is a peace of shit..... [02:56] hahaha [02:56] sorry for this but that's true [02:56] configuration is a pain, performance are a pain [02:56] Tonio_, no i agree, and plan to help you lots in mtv [02:57] one of my main goals [02:57] k3b is by far better [02:57] imbrandon: some people (actually just 2 or 3) are complaining that Kubuntu might be doing a GNOME (specific reference to System Settings) [02:57] i was just laughing ;) [02:57] imbrandon by chance the work will be over at mtv :) [02:57] Jucato, you cant please everyone, let them bitch its better than kcontrol , although not perfect ;) [02:57] (make that System Settings and the KDEMedia) [02:57] Jucato: kubuntu is doing a compromise [02:58] take the best of kde and good ideas from gnome [02:58] yeah I know... it's quite tough trying to reason with closed minds, though... [02:58] systemsettings UI has been redisigned with the help of el [02:58] she is from kde [02:58] g'night [02:58] and you can be sure kde4 will use the same principle [02:58] Jucato, then dont, tell them to use what they are confrotable with ;) they can easly make a shorcut for kcontrol [02:58] yeah. this guy's complaining that he can't find the Launch Feedback options in System Settings, and insisting that it has been removed (even if it's still in KControl) [02:58] imbrandon yes exactly [02:59] and another has been complaining about the changes that Sime made. oh well... [02:59] Jucato: Sime patches need love, that's true [02:59] it is a first shot [02:59] that's edgy goal [02:59] Jucato, do what i do, dont feed the trolls, if they have positive critisim or feedback great, if its just bitching , ignore it [02:59] heh [02:59] but they are on the good way, and will be improved in the future [02:59] very hard not to feed trolls... :) [03:00] and thats the reason for EDGY , thus the name EDGY , expirments, to get stuff polished for feisty to rock ;) [03:00] Jucato: respond this to them : [03:00] "if it is just to package kde without any attempt or implementation, kubuntu doesn't have to exist, mandriva is already there, as well as slack or suse" [03:01] or debian [03:01] I have this feeling that if some KDE core devs sort of "praised" or acknowledged these changes (System Settings, KDEMedia, etc.) they'd just shut up... [03:01] or better yet, dont respond at all unless its positive critisim or help not just bitching [03:01] Jucato: aseigo for example is very pleased of how kubuntu works [03:02] of course he doesn't like everything, but thinks there are very good ideas behind this [03:02] Jucato, it dont matter if you are joe blow, it should take a kde "developer" to make it "good" thats the whole thing behind fee open source software, ANYONE can improve it [03:02] shouldent* [03:02] and if they are not happy, they can switch, install slackware and get a perfect untouched kde [03:02] ;) [03:02] that already exist [03:02] and besides sime and riddell are "kde devs'" [03:03] they even can fork kubuntu to unpatch it === Hobbsee is reminded of something [03:03] anyway, most of those "complaining" are power users. they feel that things are being dumbed down. My argument is that since they're power users, they'd know a way to go around these new features,like using KControl instead or removing/editing the /.hidden file [03:03] what were the plans with smart? [03:03] Jucato, exactly [03:04] Hobbsee, there arent any really, packagemanagement needs to be spec'd at mtv [03:04] imbrandon: ahh okay [03:05] but Adept needs even more loving :P === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242376228.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === FreeT15 [n=thiz@61.49.220.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@CPE-144-136-125-169.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntu is now known as Hobbsee === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-45.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee__ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:06] didn't amarok have a first run wizard in the version that came w/ dapper? [04:06] can't find it in the version that comes ww/ edgy\ [04:07] Sime: ping ? [04:07] first run wizards are disabled by default in all kubuntu apps [04:07] it wasn't that way in dapper was it? [04:07] w/ amarok? [04:07] yes [04:08] hmm ok [04:09] i question that cause i referenced it in the kubuntu chapter in the offiical ubuntu book === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=Jucato@58.69.26.161] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === ZeroCool [n=rick@2492160hfc23.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:57] Riddell: r u in [04:59] anyone home.. [05:01] wasup ZeroCool [05:01] ? [05:03] notice another bug, with edgy, (not the RC) but what I'm running, 6.10 xine is not running [05:05] ZeroCool: uh, why should xine be running? [05:05] have several apps that are using it, like kaffeine, and kmplayer [05:05] went to play some music, and yes... can't [05:06] what kinda of music, with what player and what was the error [05:06] "dosent work" is kinda hard to debug [05:06] however, noatun could [05:06] .flac file [05:06] do you have libxine-extracodecs installed ? [05:07] checking [05:07] ZeroCool, " sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs " [05:07] yes [05:07] installed [05:07] and you restarted amaarok after it was installed ? [05:08] amarok can play just fine.. [05:08] its kaffeine and kmplayer [05:08] just sit there acting stuiped [05:08] ahh ok, amarok is the music player in kubuntu [05:08] noatun can play it [05:08] but if amarok can play it xine is working [05:08] ? [05:08] amarok uses xine [05:09] odd [05:09] sure [05:10] okay I check, then why would not kaffeine, or kmplayer handle it..?? [05:10] is there something not in sync [05:11] because, if all three apps are using xine, then all three should be able to play it. [05:13] hello [05:14] kaffiene requres a different package to play mp3's, last i knew [05:14] !mp3 [05:14] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [05:15] okay, but this is a .flac file [05:16] hmmm. perhaps not [05:17] what I saying, if amarok, and kaffeine, and kmplayer are using the xine engine.. [05:17] they should all be able to play that song file [05:17] Right? [05:18] what I'm seeing a is a blur between music and video and players, kaffeine is trying to cross the gap, and do both ( as a multi-media player) [05:18] is this not correct ? [05:19] instead of having several players.. [05:30] ZeroCool, correct but this will be fixed in feisty [05:30] e.g. kaffeine wont play music [05:30] amarok is the music app [05:30] personaly if amarok plays your .flac fine , i wouldent worry about it much [05:31] and to answer about xine and players, each app uses it diffrently so no [05:31] if it plays in xine in one dosent mean it will in all === zMott [n=rick@2492160hfc23.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-204-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === FreeT15 [n=thiz@61.49.220.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@123.49.239.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-97-40.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=Jucato@58.69.26.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] imbrandon: amarok integration to the action chooser popup is finished and works with Sime's patches. [08:17] imbrandon: kaffeine patches are done too... the only thing to be done now is k3b (partly works at the moment) [08:17] now -> bed, since it is 8 am in france..... ;) [08:18] Tonio_, great, gnight [08:18] heh [08:18] night Tonio_ :) [08:18] Tonio_: good morning! [08:18] Sime: bah..... [08:18] lol [08:18] I just got up. [08:18] Sime: ho, I have done the package but didn't include the last patches version [08:18] huh? [08:19] so France is -6 hours from me. :) [08:19] I took the previous one, since it is a konqueror issue, and I have a good workarround with kds [08:19] to avoid the crash [08:19] we'll have to explain this all to Riddell. [08:19] I configured konqueror to preload at kde start and always maintain 1 preload version [08:19] give him the option. [08:19] ok [08:19] that is not so bad. ;) [08:20] Sime: yes, I have kdebase and kds packages ready [08:20] cool [08:20] Sime: I prefer to include correct patches instead of tricky ones to workarround a konq bug [08:20] Sime: better you remove the latest patches from the wiki page then.... [08:20] but people who upgrade probably won't get the new setting automatically. [08:21] Sime: unless they already set those parameters manually, they will [08:21] because the profile file is merged with kds one [08:21] so if the profile file doesn't have anything set, it'll be merged [08:21] for everyone? [08:21] yup [08:22] I just learnt something [08:22] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135999 [08:22] KDE bug 135999 in general "Konqueror segfault with audiocd:/" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [08:22] if you could confirm this, would be cool aswell :) [08:22] okay now bedtime ! === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:23] Sime: nex patches will have an issue -> what if there are 2 drives ? [08:24] Sime: old patches are better since they put the device as a parameter... [08:24] Sime: ho and thanks for the kdcop thing :) that helped for amarok [08:24] amarok --cdplay `dcop kded mediamanager fullList | grep -B1 $DEVICE | head -n1` [08:24] I know [08:24] hehe :) [08:24] this is how I extract the device on your icon with the v9 patch, works nice === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-106-138.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@90.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.110.114] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957AE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rcarr [n=robb@c-69-143-127-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=dw@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:06] did we ever come up with a solution to it being impossible to reuse cdrws? [11:07] (impossible for a normal user) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] has anyone tried to use k3b recently? [11:46] /dev/sg0 is root:root rather than cdrom for me === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:51] seaLne, yea i just burned a RC cd [11:51] a few hours ago [11:52] brandon@horatio:~$ ls -l /dev/hdc [11:52] brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-10-16 06:46 /dev/hdc [11:52] i burnt a dvd, earlier then rebooted and can't burn anything now [11:52] but k3b shoudl start with kdesu iirc [11:52] why? [11:52] k3b doesn't need root privs [11:52] the devices are supposed to be writable [11:53] ahh yea by the cdrom group probably [11:53] yep [11:53] sebas: what perms do you have on sg0? [11:53] anyhow i just checked on my laptop too, its fine there also [11:54] crw-rw---- 1 root root 21, 0 Aug 31 13:40 /dev/sg0 [11:54] imbrandon: sg0? [11:54] This is dapper, still. [11:54] brandon@horatio:~$ ls -l /dev/sg0 [11:54] crw-rw---- 1 root root 21, 0 2006-10-16 11:47 /dev/sg0 [11:57] so i don't see how cdrecord could write to it [11:57] it did but it write to /dev/hdc ( my burner iirc ) why would it write to sg0 [11:57] http://rafb.net/paste/results/BqHE4u53.html [12:01] what does k3b -> settings -> devices say your device is called? === imbrandon looks [12:02] i have scd0 [12:02] /dev/hdc [12:03] could you do me a favour and delete all your k3b settings then check again? [12:03] seaLne, http://federation.imbrandon.com/ss111.png [12:04] sure but this install is only about 2 hours old [12:04] as i said i used it to burn an RC disk heh [12:05] ooh all default looks :) === Jucato [n=Jucato@58.69.26.161] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:19] imbrandon: ok just tested on a fresh rc install and it is using hdd and is fine... [12:19] great === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.89] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:20] dosen't explain why i can't :-/ === nuku [n=nuku@unaffiliated/nuku] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] even removing my settings i still get scd0 === seaLne gives out more kubuntu cds to students :) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=dw@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=dw@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] Riddell: is it possible to have a ktorrent dfsg modified version ? [01:18] I just found best support channel ever, there's chanserv with me. [01:18] I wonder if he does help me... :p [01:18] ChanServ is certainly a she [01:18] fabo: what's not free about it? [01:18] Riddell: geoip stuff [01:18] what licence is that under? [01:19] Tm_T: you can try [01:20] Hobbsee: Trust me I am trying. =) [01:20] Funny thing is, it even gives me rules when I join in... [01:20] Looks like chanserv is familyguy afterall. ;) [01:21] Tm_T: do the rules state that the channel is an auto-kline one, then go bye? [01:21] Riddell: open data license : www.maxmind.com/download/geoip/database/LICENSE.txt [01:21] Hobbsee: Er, chanserv is only op there ;( [01:21] awwww [01:22] Riddell: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/06/msg00093.html [01:22] Riddell: database file and country flags are affected [01:22] ktorrent-2.0.3/plugins/infowidget/geoip/GeoIP-LICENSE.txt [01:23] ktorrent-2.0.3/plugins/infowidget/geoip/FLAGS_LICENCE [01:24] fabo: ye gods [01:26] Riddell: if it is possible, just tell me. Then you can do it or if you don't have time, tell me too and i'll prepare one [01:28] fabo: that flags licence is especially evil [01:29] Riddell: i talked with upstream some time ago and he introduced a nogeoip flag at build time [01:30] Riddell: but he prefer to keep geoip stuff for people not interested in licenses ... [01:30] for people who don't mind blatant copyright infringement [01:31] it's not like there aren't free flag images out there [01:36] Riddell: what is your proposal ? [01:36] hmm, we don't build with --enable-geoip Enables GeoIP database installation but the geoip files are installed [01:36] Riddell: in debian package changelog -> * built with GeoIP support enabled, but removed the database file [01:36] and country flags due to licensing restrictions (see README.Debian) [01:36]