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ElwynPrety good. Im finding KDE more intuative than Gnome12:11
jende_fdoving: I just found a howto and a driver for TI WLan drivers which works for the acx series just fine and its easy to install. Unfortunately the HowTo is in german. Is that of your interest?12:11
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jende_mikeeagles: I just found the solution, so don't run away12:12
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OODElwyn: yeah, and it's easier moving from windows since it's more similar12:13
mikeeaglesNot gone anywhere. Just waiting for the live cd to finish booting.12:13
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ElwynYea, Iv found that too12:14
batousaix19not really simpler, but more similar;)12:14
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jende_mikeeagles: can't you boot without the LiveCd anymore12:15
jende_mikeeagles: can't you boot without the LiveCd anymore?12:15
mikeeaglesRemember I switched hd's.12:15
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mikeeaglesI'll stop this and reinstall the other one.12:15
zorglu_mikeeagles: a matter of grub map ?12:15
jende_mikeeagles: yep...I forgot that for a moment...sorry12:16
yokobrtheres anyway to install flash by terminal??!12:16
zorglu_!flash12:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:16
zorglu_yokobr: yes there is12:16
OODthere's a flash 9 beta so you should give that a try12:16
yokobri want!!12:16
yokobrhow?12:16
zorglu_sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree12:17
ElwynQuick question, How can i change my permisions on a mounted NTFS drive from "Can View Content" to "Can View and Modify Content", as every time I try do it from Right Click> Properties >Permisions, it gives me the error "Could not change permissions for /media/dir/"12:17
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OODthat one is v 712:17
lainprolianthello :)12:17
yokobr00D, how can i ge t9?12:17
timothyi am having major problems with my Broadcom WiFi card12:17
timothyanyone wanna help me?12:17
OODhttp://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/releasenotes.html12:17
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OODElwyn: the default ntfs driver doesn't have write acces to NTFS12:18
zorglu_OOD: they release a linux version ?12:18
OODyep12:18
Hawkwind!flash912:18
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html12:18
zorglu_nice :)12:18
HawkwindHah12:18
HawkwindI added the fact yesterday :P12:18
Elwyn@OOD is it possible to get another driver that doe4s?12:18
zorglu_Hawkwind: uptodate :)12:19
batousaix19ntfs-3g :)12:19
OODElwyn: right here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700912:19
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TheGateKeeperHawkwind: cool :-)12:19
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Elwynsweet, thanks12:19
jende_timothy: what card are you havin'?12:19
OODnp12:19
yokobrplease, can u gimme that link again, 00D, crash happened here12:20
TheGateKeeperElwyn: you need a repo for ntfs-3g?12:20
OODhttp://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html12:20
jende_!flash912:20
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html12:20
OOD:P12:20
batousaix19look for it in adept 1st12:20
timothyjende: its a Dell TrueMobile 1400 with the BCM4309 chip12:20
Elwyn@theGateKeeper, repo?12:20
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TheGateKeeperElwyn: repositories is what linux uses for installing software12:21
jende_timothy: have a look: http://arclite.dyndns.org:8080/~chris/d800/d800.html12:21
TheGateKeeper!repos12:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:21
mikeeagleskay. I've got it hooked up again.12:21
TheGateKeeperElwyn: ^^^12:21
Elwynoh yep12:21
lainprolianti have a software related question12:21
lainprolianti am running software (GENS, rewritten to use OpenGL surfaces) and within both it and the normal GENS there is sound lag12:22
lainproliantother than this there are not issues12:22
lainproliantwhat do you think could be causing this?12:22
jende_mikeeagles: so you have rebooted yur box with he LiveCD?Menas you couldn't reboot it just with the old system?12:22
TheGateKeeperElwyn: for when you get (k)ubuntu installed ---> repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main12:23
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mikeeaglesNo, I reinstalled the hd that has kubuntu on it.12:23
Elwynohk, thanks.12:23
mikeeaglesIt's up and running.12:23
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jende_mikeeagles: now type in the console lsmod | grep acx12:24
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lainprolianthmm, maybe its a sound driver issue12:25
lainproliantthe sound quality is perfect, but it lags about 50-100ms12:25
lainproliantwell, probably more than that12:25
lainproliantabout 250-300ms12:25
mikeeaglesOkay now what?12:25
jende_mikeeagles: now type in the console lsmod | grep acx12:25
mikeeaglesI did.12:26
jende_mikeeagles: what's the output?12:26
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ElwynIf an instruction says "open a terminal and type..." is a terminal the same as Konsole?12:26
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lainproliantyes12:27
Elwynk12:27
lainproliantKonsole is a KDE frontend for bash12:27
Elwynohk.12:27
Elwynthanks12:27
lainproliantyw ^_^12:27
zorglu_that's a way to put it :)12:27
lainproliantlol12:27
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lainproliantsorrie if that isn't exactly correct, i'm still new with Linux myself12:28
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mikeeaglesacx 101132 0   usbcore 130820 7 usbhid,usblp,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,acs.uhci_  hcd12:28
Elwynwell, im off now, thanks everyone for all your help12:29
lainproliantbyebye Elwyn12:29
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jende_mikeeagles: okay, I'm not quite sure if we should remove that right now, but as we wanna start from the beginning, we will see later on if we have to remove that file. however we start with:12:30
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squarepusherHi, how can I get KDE's "Open With" dialog box to accept a command-line executable and its arguments? Is this documented somewhere? My Google searches are blowing... I want *.flac to open up in cmus-remote. The syntax is cmus-remote -i <filename(s)>12:30
jende_mikeeagles: sudo wget http://www.hauke-m.de/fileadmin/acx/fw.tar.bz212:30
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lainprolianthmm12:31
cpk2squarepusher: why not just use konsole?12:31
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jende_mikeeagles: followed by: sudo wget http://www.hauke-m.de/fileadmin/acx/acx-20060521.tar.bz212:31
mikeeaglesI'm not online so I won't be able to get it.12:31
lainproliantwrite a script maybe? that takes a parameter that is the filename of the file you want to work with12:32
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squarepushercpk2: I do, but right now I'm feeling a bit lazy, and I've always wanted to know. But I just figured it out anyway. If you right click on the little icon near the dialog box, and click "What's this" it gives you all of the formats.12:32
Zerb_Rissguys, I just updated to Edgy but the system is booting to the console12:32
Zerb_Risshow do I get into KDE?12:32
lainproliantsquarepusher: cool12:32
jende_lainproliant: unfortunately the modules/drivers for the acx series aren't built in modules12:33
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jende_lainproliant: so you have to compile/build them by yourself12:34
lainproliantyou mean mikeeagles jende_ ?12:34
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jende_lainproliant: it lokked as like as you wede responding to mike's last posting. Sorry12:34
jende_lainproliant: it looked as like as you wede responding to mike's last posting. Sorry12:35
lainproliantah that's fine12:35
lainproliantits okay12:35
lainprolianti had a question about why GENS has sound lag lol12:35
edrexZerb_Riss: less /var/log/X.0.log may show you something if x is failing to start12:35
mikeeaglesNo problem guys.12:35
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lainproliantand what i can do about it :P12:35
lainproliantif anything12:35
lainproliantmy sound card is on board and runs an nVidia chipset12:35
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jende_mikeeagles: what was it you installed yesterday and since you cant get connected to the world?12:36
zorglu_naively what is 'GENS' ?12:36
lainproliantASUS A7N8X Deluxe board12:36
edrexoh he's gone12:36
edrex:P12:36
lainproliantGENS is just a Genesis emulator12:36
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zorglu_oh ok12:36
lainproliantgraphics are crystal perfect :P12:36
lainproliantbut the sound is laggy12:36
lainprolianteven if i turn the frequency all the way down12:36
lainproliantor rather the sample rate12:36
zorglu_lainproliant: what about the other apps, like video player. is the sound laggy too ?12:36
lainproliantnot at all12:36
mikeeaglesThis morning you helped me to update my puter. Remember the removal of the hash marks, and multiverse universe stuff.12:37
zorglu_lainproliant: oh ok so it is due to the emulator itself12:37
lainproliantits kinda glitchy in ZSNES but that's probably ZSNES's fault12:37
lainprolianti am thinking it might have something to do with the sound libraries the emulator is using12:37
lainproliantmost like sdl mixer12:37
lainproliantlikely*12:37
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jende_mikeeagles: ah well, to be honest...there were quite a few today...what was your nick this morning?12:37
lainproliantlet me test some more apps12:38
zorglu_lainproliant: hmm the sdl sound stuff is used a lot... i mean so it is unlikely to be that bugged12:38
mikeeaglesAfter the reboot the networking was gone and the only option it shows to configure is a dialup modem. No other options are available.12:38
lainprolianttrue12:38
mikeeaglesAha. I forgot. I was magicmike this morning.12:38
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mikeeaglesSorry.12:38
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jende_mikeeagles: Mr Magic...here we go12:39
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mikeeaglesSince I wasn't able to log on I had to use a regular irc client. Forgot what my name was. LOL12:39
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mikeeaglesI'm fried. I hope to catch you again in the morn and see where I am then. Have a great night.12:40
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oemcan anyone help me im stick in oem mode on kubuntu12:41
lainproliantthis isn't that computer, but my friends laughed at me when i said i was going to pus Kubuntu on my Armada m300 laptop saying things like I would have catasrophic hardware/driver incompatabilities12:42
lainproliantwhen i finished installing they stopped laughing :P12:42
jende_mikeeagles: I have to lokk up some papers, as the acx doesn't seem to be a standard.Tomorrow I'll hae the solution for you, no worries12:42
jende_mikeeagles: I have to lokk up some papers, as the acx doesn't seem to be a standard.Tomorrow I'll have the solution for you, no worries12:42
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lainproliantKubuntu manages my wireless drivers (atheros chipset) magnitudes better than windows did12:43
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mikeeaglesThanks. I appreciaite it.12:43
lainproliantokay testing Totem Movie Player now12:43
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wordflash 9!!!!!!!!12:49
wordhttp://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/12:49
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lainproliantno sound lag12:50
lainproliantnot in Totem anyway12:50
lainproliantvery very odd12:50
jende_BluesKaj: are you still around?12:50
lainprolianti will check all of the configuration options that GENS has and see if i can't find a hackaround12:50
lainproliantthanks everyone for your help ^_^12:50
lainproliantbyebye for now12:50
jende_lainproliant: see ya12:50
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whysowhen i log in it says cannot load /HOME.drmc file to get default session, AND the login screen initially shows static at top and i have to scroll down to get to edit sessions, AND cant edit monitor settings from KDE :(((((((12:52
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M_A_KHow do I add packages in kubuntu (like synaptic in gnome)?01:00
cpk2M_A_K: to download things? you can use adept or even use synaptic or apt-get or aptitude01:01
apokryphosM_A_K: adept: kmenu -> system01:01
M_A_KI cannot find synaptic in the kmenu.01:01
apokryphosM_A_K: that's because it's called adept ;-)01:02
cpk2M_A_K: you need to download it first with adept01:02
jende_M_A_K: adept is your frind01:02
jende_M_A_K: adept is your friend01:02
M_A_KI see.  Ill give it a try.01:02
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cpk2wow dvdauthor really seems to nuke my computer somehow01:03
jende_M_A_K: Michael if there should occur any probs just get back to us01:04
cpk2and gkrell doesnt even say I am using over half my cpu01:04
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jende_cpk2: whooaaaaa...that's kinda weird01:04
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jende_DjDarkman: howdy01:05
jende_cpk2: have you heard anything from that russian guy?01:05
cpk2no =\01:06
cpk2i was shaving & showering but i didnt get any messages01:06
M_A_Kjende : can I use synaptic?  I don't see wine and as I recal,under synaptic I needed to add some repostories.01:06
jende_cpk2: well, I guess he made it though01:06
cpk2Sysinfo for 'snoresqueeze': Linux 2.6.15-27-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4806 bogomips), , RAM: 1243/1263MB, 109 proc's, 17.23h up01:06
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cpk2M_A_K: go to view > manage repositories in adept01:07
jende_cpk2: you were faster...*g*01:07
M_A_KI dont know the address to enter in New Repository line.  In  synaptic, I just clicked on the ones to add.01:08
menaceIs anyone here familiar with SWAP?01:08
cpk2M_A_K: this is what you want for bleeding edge wine deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main01:08
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M_A_KWhat about stable (or as stable as can be)?01:09
jende_M_A_K: maybe you have to edit your sources.list01:09
menace!SWAP01:09
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info01:09
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menace<3 that bot01:09
M_A_KIs synaptic installed or only if I install ubuntu?01:09
cpk2M_A_K: thats what you want, the wine package in the ubuntu repo is super old01:09
jende_add the line as given to you by cpk2 to yoour sources.list and you'll be fine01:09
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cpk2something must be wrong...01:10
M_A_Kjende_ : yes, for wine, but what about other apps I might want?  I dont know what repositores to add.01:10
jende_M_A_K: like what apps?01:11
M_A_KI am familiar with synaptic and am currently re-installing my system.  I need to get up and running.  I can take time to learn new later.01:11
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jende_M_A_K: okay...do yu know how to modify your sources.list?01:11
ubuntui have a real quick question about a dual boot system01:12
whysowhats key in konquror to view hidden folders01:12
M_A_Knot really.01:12
whysoubuntu: ask your question not ask to ask :)01:12
ubuntui have 2 hardrives salved together...one with windows and the other i am trying to install kubuntu...will that work01:13
ubuntui mean without hurting the wifes fules01:13
cpk2ok nevermind guess it did work, i have a 9 gig folder now01:13
cpk2M_A_K: its not hard to right click the repos in adept and choose enable01:14
jende_M_A_K: okay...here we go...open your sources.list by pressing ALT+F2 and then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:14
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cpk2nor is it hard to edit sources.list by hand01:14
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M_A_KOK, open01:14
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ubuntuanyone know if having the 2 drives together in a pc will effect the files on the windows setup with linux on the other01:15
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chabubuntu yea, everyone knows01:15
M_A_Kshould I just uncomment some of the items?01:15
ubuntuthen tell me01:15
belenhi01:16
M_A_KSeems that some were commented out by installer because failed to verify.01:16
belensorry i am not really how working these01:16
beleni am new01:16
chabubuntu considering that you ask such a question, it'd be best to backup everything..or sell the pc...either way, the files will be fine..01:16
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jende_M_A_K: compare yours with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27320/01:17
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krupsubuntu: if you have a windows drive and you're adding a ubuntu - just be careful when you add partitions.01:17
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jende_M_A_K: basically what you need to do is to delete a few hashes and also you should make sure that you have multiverse enabled as well01:19
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M_A_Kjende_ : all of mine were commented out.  I uncommented all since they were uncommented in your paste.  Thanks.01:20
M_A_KNow fetch updates in adept?01:20
cpk2M_A_K: yes01:21
M_A_KYea.... :)  Thanks01:21
whysoi just switched to kde, and it cant change my display settings :( help?01:21
jende_M_A_K: yep01:22
cpk2whyso: cant how?01:22
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cpk2whyso: cant pick a higer resolution? cant find the right menu?01:22
whysocant do anything01:22
whysoin the right menu01:22
cpk2whyso: you are trying to get a higher resolution?01:23
whysono, cant even see the settings01:23
cpk2oh its just completely blank?01:23
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whysosays it cant load display settins01:24
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whysodoes synaptic work in kde?01:32
BluesKajyup01:34
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LjLwhyso, yes, all Gnome apps also work in KDE, except that of course they'll install a big bunch of Gnome libraries01:34
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whysoeew!01:36
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softmasterhow do i know if direct rendering is enabled and wmy renderer?01:36
LjLwhyso, there is Adept in KDE. not quite exactly like Synaptic, but it's there.01:36
whysok ty01:36
whysoanyone help me get my display settings working?01:37
softmasterhow do i know if direct rendering is enabled and what is my renderer01:37
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softmasteranyone knows the commands?01:38
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LjLsoftmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html01:39
softmasterthanks01:39
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campbchoye01:45
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campbchhow can i get the 915resolution program through a repository?01:48
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jende_good night everybody01:48
CViruscampbch: I beleive I gave you a link before .. havent I ?01:49
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bLaZeDdoes anyone know if there is a repo that has updated gtkpod debs?....01:54
bLaZeDi dont wanna have to compile it....but the one i installed with apt-get isnt letting me add videos to my ipod....but it did b4 with gtkpod...so im thinking the one that apt installed wasnt compiled with what i need....and hopeing to find a repo that has a diff one01:56
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bLaZeD!gtkpod01:56
ubotugtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB01:56
campbchyeah, later that night kubuntu crashed and wouldn't let me boot, so i'm back to square one01:56
campbchi found it though, thanks01:56
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bLaZeDThe latest stable version is V0.99.8 released on September 24th 200601:57
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campbchincredible.01:59
timothyhello01:59
campbchhello01:59
timothyi need help with my broadcom wifi01:59
timothythis is my first time using kubuntu02:00
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timothyand the onyl thing that does nto work is my wifi02:00
timothyi tried using ndiswrapper02:00
campbchhumm02:00
timothybut it does not connect to any networks02:00
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rawrnessWill it dectect networks?02:03
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BonBonTheJontimothy: did you follow a guide02:06
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timothyyes02:08
timothyi tried 2 different ones02:08
timothyit will sometimes see networks02:08
timothyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517402:09
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campbchwhy isn't build-essentials in the package manager? shouldn't it be?02:10
BonBonTheJontimothy: that link is not for ndiswrapper02:10
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timothyi have another one02:11
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timothyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper02:11
timothythat i also tried02:11
timothybut no avail02:11
arkadyhi! i've upgraded tonight to edgy. is safe to upgrade all those python-* packages and hpjs (that remove hplip-ppds and foomatic-filters)?02:13
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M_A_Kin adept, is Full Upgrade same as mark all upgrades in synaptic?02:13
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BonBonTheJontimothy: I had a hard time with a broadcom card, maybe someone else can help02:14
timothydid youn get it working?02:14
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mattjunxI have a question regarding authentication of apt repositories02:14
BonBonTheJontimothy: not really, I ended up getting a pcmcia card02:15
BonBonTheJonmattjunx: what is your problem02:15
mattjunxI've just re-created my chroot of edgy (via debootstrap), and it seems that absolutely NO packages can be "authenticated" according to apt-get02:15
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mattjunxthis problem happened to me in dapper, but I just ignore the authentication problem via something (can't remember where)02:16
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mattjunxalso, on an unrelated problem, what the crap is wrong with edgy? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27400/02:19
mattjunxI get that error when updating or installing pretty much anything02:19
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rawrnessitsin beta :P02:21
Jucatorawrness: actually, RC has been released02:21
rawrnessit has?02:21
pointwoodI'm thinking about upgrading from dapper to the new RC, I'm conserned about the unoffical repositories - my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27401/02:21
Jucatoyes02:21
rawrnessmy bad02:21
bLaZeD!gtk2.002:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk2.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
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Jucatomattjunx: could you try asking around in #ubuntu+1 ?02:22
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mattjunxdoing that02:22
mattjunxthanks02:22
waspiushello..i am running kubuntu on a laptop with 512mb ram..but the applications and everything are running quite slow...and allot slower in comparison to windows..if i get a bigger ram will the problem be solved or do i need to do something else..02:22
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Jucatopointwood: the repos for KDE, Amarok, and KOffice would probaby be OK, as those are the versions used by Edgy. I'm just not so sure about the PLF and dapper-commercial ones02:22
Jucatoheck I'm not sure if there's an edgy-commercial02:22
sebsebsebhow do I get02:23
sebsebsebWindows Media Player02:23
sebsebsebweb radio02:23
sebsebsebplaying in Konqueror?02:23
Jucatorawrness: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/RC/Kubuntu02:23
sebsebsebin Firefox I have already done this,  but what about Konq?02:23
pointwoodJucato: yeah, I would expect to not needing the amarok and koffice repos02:23
pointwoodand kde02:23
ElHey, can anyone tell me how to make my mounted NTFS partitions writable?02:24
Jucato!ntfs02:24
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:24
JucatoEl: ^^^^02:24
waspiusanyone?02:24
BluesKajsebsebseb:  web radio = streamtuner ...very good app02:24
Elk, thnaks, il have a look02:24
Jucatowaspius: that's strange. with 512MB RAM KDE does a decent, if not faster, job than XP on my system02:25
ElI thought the linux ntfs driver didnt suppiort writing to ntfs though :/  *ereads*02:25
Jucatoerr I didn't see the "writeable" part02:25
waspiusJucato: :(02:25
campbchick02:25
JucatoEl: yeah the standart ntfs driver doesn't support/recommend. but there are other experimental drivers that allow it02:25
JucatoI just forgot what they're called02:25
pointwoodyeah02:25
Elhmmk02:25
campbchif i were to download kdevelop using the adept manager, it would get the required libraries and such itself, correct?02:25
pointwoodit should be pretty good actually02:25
Jucatocampbch: it should02:26
campbchok02:26
pointwoodthough of course, no promise that it wont corrupt your partition ;)02:26
Eli think its called ntfs-3 or ntfs-g or something like that02:26
Jucatoah ntfs-3g02:26
campbchthat's a) but b) why is it saying it can't install?02:26
Jucatohm...02:26
Elthats it :p02:26
Jucatocampbch: apt-get might give you a more detailed error message output02:26
campbchalright...02:27
Jucato"sudo apt-get install kdevelop"02:27
pointwoodhttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-3g02:27
Jucatobut the first thing I would check is your sources.list/Manage Repositories02:27
Jucato!kdevelop02:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:27
pointwoodntfs ^^^02:27
Elpointwood: thanks02:27
Jucatowhat the hell?02:27
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campbchit says it couldn't lock the admin directory02:27
BonBonTheJon!kdevelop302:28
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB02:28
campbchhow do i release that from whatever other program is stopping it?02:28
Jucatooh yeah lol thanks BonBonTheJon02:28
Jucatocampbch: is Adept still running?02:28
BonBonTheJonJucato: your welcome02:28
campbch*cough*02:28
campbchdepends on autoconf and automake, but it says they are not installable... ill try those individually02:29
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sebsebsebBluesKaj:  What is streamtuner exactly?02:29
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campbchautoconf has no installation candidate02:29
campbchwhy cant it be installed?02:29
Jucatocampbch: can you pastebin the error messages from installing kdevelop3 ?02:29
JucatoI'm beginning to think that there may be some problems with your repositories list02:30
BluesKajsebsebseb: streamtuner is web radio directory browser that uses the xmms player02:30
sebsebsebwhat's a web radio directory browser exactly?02:31
Jucatoheh BluesKaj, better start talking in plain English :P02:31
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BluesKajit'lists several web radio stations like those in Shoutcast that one can tune in a nd listen to02:32
Elhmm, i donno if im knowledgeable enough to get ntfs-3g working, so il outline my main problem and see if anyone can help.02:33
ElMy windowsXP instilation is corrupted, (lol, typical eh?), and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but thats getting tricky, with this whole ntfs driver thing. So any suggestions on how to save my files?02:33
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campbchusing paste.ubuntu-nl.org?02:33
campbchhow i despise the university wireless network02:33
campbchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27403/02:33
campbchgotchya02:33
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campbchi got lost with the sebs, can't count them allllll...02:35
Jucatocampbch: hmm... strange...02:35
pointwoodhere goes nothing :)02:35
Jucatocampbch: can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?02:35
campbchi have bad luc :(02:35
campbchk02:35
pointwoodI probably should wait for the final release, but hey :)02:35
Jucatocampbch: use !pastebin again :)02:35
Jucatopointwood: RC is *almost* as good as the final release02:36
campbch:D02:36
pointwoodyeah :)02:36
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cellofellowwhat's the easiest way to install Sun Java runtime and developing stuff?02:36
Hail_Spacecakehow do I check to see if ubuntu recognizes my wlan card?02:36
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Hail_SpacecakeI'm pretty sure that it does02:36
Jucato!java02:37
cellofellowI tried to do it once but it just didn't work.02:37
ubotujava is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:37
TubaSoldiercellofellow. you can get sdk and jee from sun.com02:37
Jucatocellofellow: ^^^^02:37
Hail_Spacecakebecause it lists two enteries in iwconfig02:37
campbchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27406/02:37
Hail_Spacecakebut I can't seem to figure out how to raise the network02:37
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cellofellowJucato: thanks, I was already looking at that, but I tried that before and things kind of went sour. I'll try again though. ^_^02:37
campbchc(-_-v)02:38
Jucatocellofellow: the wiki for Java? I tried that. never had problems. just don't install using Adept. use apt-get in Konsole02:38
cellofellowJucato: would aptitude have the problems too? I used it before.02:38
campbchlife is grand.02:39
cellofellowFrom command line, no as an app.02:39
Jucatocellofellow: nope. that would even be better :)02:39
cellofellowok02:39
cellofellowJucato: you're right. It says it's ok to use synaptic in Ubuntu but to use apt-get in kubuntu.02:40
campbchi gotta get used to the command line still :o02:40
Jucato:)02:40
Jucatocampbch: still trying to see what's wrong...02:40
campbchtake your time02:40
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mikehelp with installing java on kubuntu please02:41
Jucato!java02:41
ubotujava is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:41
Jucatomike: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^02:41
campbchis sources.list standard? would it matter if i replaced it with a functional one?02:41
campbchassuming it's nonfunctioning, that is02:41
Jucatocampbch: your is quite functional, as far as I can tell02:41
campbch:o02:42
campbchaight02:42
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cellofellowHey, just curios, what are the backports repos for? I don't have them enabled and haven't run into any problems, so I'm guessing their not too important.02:42
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ElMy windowsXP instilation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but thats getting tricky, with this whole ntfs driver thing. So any suggestions on how to save my files?02:42
Lam_openoffice autoloads on system start up. how do i turn it off?02:42
mikeno i have java installed but the plugin is not in my firefox plugins02:42
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mikeJucato: i have java but its not in firefox plugins02:43
mikedirectory02:43
cellofellowweird, Mine doesn't but I can't figure out how to get my OOo to start up to system tray automatically.02:43
Jucatocellofellow: backports would sometimes contain software updates that are not too important/critical to be put in the main dapper-updates repository. they're also optional02:43
JucatoLam_: do you leave it open when you log out/shutdown?02:44
mikejava is not working even though it is installed02:44
cellofellowWhen I've installed Java, how do I tell Firefox (swiftfox actually) and OpenOffice to use the Sun VM?02:44
Jucatomike: but it's working in Konqueror?02:45
mikelet me see02:45
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Jucatocellofellow: in the Java wiki, there's a section there about setting the Default Java version. you'd have to do that02:45
Jucatosame goes for you mike.02:45
danny500is there a wmv player for linux?02:45
cellofellowdanny500: try the w32codecs library02:46
Jucatodanny500: if you install the w32codecs, any media player can02:46
Jucato!w32codecs02:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:46
Jucatodanny500: ^^^^^^^^^^^02:46
danny500thanx man02:46
Lam_Jucato: oh. i guess that might be it. lol thanks02:46
danny500woman, what ever02:46
cellofellowThey took it out of the repos. I had to manually download and install it after my reinstall.02:46
Jucatocellofellow: for OO.o, I think you also have to manually set it up to use Sun Java02:46
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mikeJucato: well it kina works in kongere it load the java box but not the content in it, it went further then firefox though02:47
Jucatodanny500: definitely a man, last I checked myself :)02:47
danny500lol02:47
Jucatomike: have you done the step for choosing the default Java version that I mentioned? it's in the Java wiki02:47
JucatoLam_: most probably :)02:47
Jucatocellofellow: w32codecs is really not found in the official Ubuntu repos. for legal reasons02:48
mikeJucato: that just said how to install, i didnt see steps for settign default02:48
cellofellowWill OO.o work any different with Sun compared to GNU whatever.02:48
ElMy windowsXP instilation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but thats getting tricky, with this whole ntfs driver thing. So any suggestions on how to save my files?02:48
Jucatodanny500: you'd have to download the .deb file for w32codecs and install it either with sudo dpkg -i or right-click on it and use the Kubuntu Package Menu02:48
Jucato!java02:48
ubotujava is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:48
cellofellowJucato: I know, but it used to be. Did someone threaten to sue?02:48
Jucatomike: scroll down a bit02:48
Jucatocellofellow: no. but it's good to be safe :)02:49
mikeJucato:  can u send me the link aagian02:49
Jucatomike, cellofellow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b02:49
Jucatocellofellow: the Sun Java might be a bit faster than GNU's02:50
cellofellowOK02:50
BluesKajWhat's the secret to keeping my screensaver settings permanently ?  ...I lose them after every reboot :(02:51
ElMy Windows XP installation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but that's getting tricky, with the whole NTFS read/write driver issue. (I haven't been able to successfully install NTFS-3G). So any suggestions on how to save my files?02:51
cellofellowOO.o is so slow to start I might do it.02:52
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campbch_ack d/c02:53
campbch_anyways02:53
campbch_if i want kdevelop, and it isnt installing properly, what should i do?02:54
Jucatocampbch_: still no clue :(02:54
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campbch_is there a kdevelop channel anywhere?02:54
Jucatocampbch_: what command are you using btw? I think it should be "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3" ?02:54
cellofellowIs the Eclipse Java IDE any good?02:54
campbch_sudo apt-get install kdevelop302:54
campbch_yep02:54
Jucatohm... really strange...02:55
campbch_:'(02:55
BluesKaj!kdevelop02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
Jucatodid you just recently modify your sources.list before trying to install?02:55
Jucato!kdevelop302:55
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB02:55
campbch_v(0_o)v02:55
cellofellow!Eclipse02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
cellofellow!eclipse02:55
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB02:55
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campbch_here, try this... could you paste your sources.list file to the bin?02:56
campbch_rather, the contents of02:56
Jucato??02:56
Jucatocampbch_: mine?02:56
cellofellowwho? me?02:56
campbch_yeah, ill try it02:56
campbch_it's all the same repositories, and if i deleted something accidentally it will fix it02:56
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campbch_ill make backups, just in case02:57
cellofellowcampbch_: oh, ecplipse, I was looking into that for myself. sorry about that. :)02:57
Jucatocampbch_: unfortunately, I'm not on Linux right now...02:57
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campbch_:p02:57
campbch_the TRUTH!02:57
cellofellowJucato: whatcha on? mac or bsd ok, windows BOO02:57
campbch_oh well02:57
campbch_maybe i can find another one02:57
JucatoXP lol02:58
cellofellowcampbch: try using aptitude search packagename for Kdevelop. I know I could download it right now.02:58
campbch_ill try that in just a sec02:59
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[GuS] Aurevoir...03:00
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Brydenn33anyone here have FrostWire installed?03:01
Brydenn33i'm having some problems getting it to work03:01
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whysohmmm how come when i put in a CD in kubuntu it doesnt automoutn it03:02
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campbch_so03:03
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rawrnessbrydenn perhaps its java?03:03
campbch_what does it mean when the console says via apt that there is no release candidate for the package?03:03
rawrnessI rembering something in the java wiki about seting something to make java based programs work right or somthing....03:04
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rawrnessOH  well my brain banks are corrupt anyhows03:04
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cellofellowcambch_: it means it can't find anything that matches the package name03:05
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Jucatostrange, really strange...03:05
cellofellow!java03:05
ubotujava is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:05
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cellofellowrawrness: ^^^^^^^^^03:06
cellofellowJucato: all the java inquiries?03:06
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Jucatohuh?03:07
cellofellowJucato: what was strange.03:07
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Jucatocampbch_'s troubles03:08
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cellofellowJucato: oh03:08
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cellofellowhas he checked his sources.list and updated his cache or whatever it's called?03:08
Jucatoafaik, his sources.list are correct... maybe someone else could check03:09
Jucatocampbch_'s sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27406/03:09
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cellofellowJucato: maybe kdevelop isn't available right now. I'd check but my apt is occupied at the moment.03:10
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JucatoI'd check to. but apt doesn't exist in XP03:10
seishinbyouHi, I connected here on startup.  I have no particular problems right now, but I thought I should at least say hello while I am here.03:10
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Jucatoseishinbyou: eheheh hi! :)03:10
cellofellowhe's got universe in there twice. might that ess things up?03:11
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|redalert|hello, im new to linux but is there any program that lists all the other programs installed on your system?03:11
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campbch_i went and rebuilt sources.list from the source-o-matic on ubuntu :D pretty much just checked everything, and it still turns up the error03:12
cellofellow|redalert|: dpkg keeps a cache of installed programs and uninstalled programs. Adept uses it to create its list. Try that.03:13
campbch_redalert, go to Kmenu>system>adept03:13
|redalert|thanks03:13
cellofellowcampbch_: did you apt-get update?03:13
campbch_view all programs and those which you have installed03:13
campbch_ill update and try agian03:13
campbch_again****03:13
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cellofellowwhy do you guys always have such hard to type nicks?03:15
cellofellowflaccid: hi there. I STILL haven't gotten my Samba server going03:16
flaccid_cellofellow: you need to learn samba03:17
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Jucatocellofellow: ?? Tab completion?03:17
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cellofellowI know. I've been trying, but it's apain is the but to get Samba working in a peer-to-peer Windows 98 style network.03:17
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cellofellowJucato: konversation has tab completion?03:18
Hawkwindcellofellow: All IRC clients do nowadays03:18
seishinbyouWorks here (in konversation)03:18
seishinbyou(re: tab completion)03:18
cellofellowok03:18
Jucatocellofellow: of course :)03:18
flaccid_cellofellow: windows 98 style of network wtf03:19
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cellofellowflaccid_: no controller, just a bunch of computers in the same workgroup like Windows 98 does by default.03:19
flaccid_cellofellow: thats default for a lot of operating systems. has nothing to do with windows 98.03:20
flaccid_tis called samba standalone03:20
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cellofellowflaccid_: oh, ok. but if I do that then user mode in samba doesn't work cause Win98 won't let me put in a username.03:21
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flaccid_cellofellow: you need to remove the saved samba password in windows 9803:22
campbchoh jeez03:22
campbchhere's a new morsel03:22
campbchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27411/03:22
cellofellowflaccid_: where is that?03:22
campbchi tried apt-get update03:22
campbchand it freaked out on me03:22
cellofellowflaccid_" it's not like windows has nice etc or home dirs.03:22
campbchsaying gzip wasnt in gzip format, that there are corrupted files, ec03:22
cellofellowcampbch: how so?03:22
cellofellowoops03:22
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cellofellowcampbch: before or after downloading the header updates?03:23
campbchhmm?03:23
campbchi just tried sudo apt-get update03:23
campbchwhat else should i try?03:23
cellofellowcampbch: did it actually download anything?03:23
campbchyes03:24
cellofellowthen what?03:24
campbchit downloaded to 99% of a gzip, and then said it wasnt in gzip format03:24
campbchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27411/03:24
campbchit's all there03:24
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flaccid_cellofellow: this isn't ##windows03:25
cellofellowflaccid_: I know, sorry. :-(03:25
flaccid_like i sad, learn samba :)03:25
cellofellowok03:25
flaccid_said03:25
flaccid_then you can fix samba problems03:25
Jucatocan someone help campbch? I'm getting dizzy with the apt problem... :(03:25
campbchjucato, have you seen round 2?03:26
campbchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27411/03:26
cellofellowme too03:26
campbchwhy is this happening?03:26
campbchthis is a fresh install03:26
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campbchi only installed 915resolutions to fix my screen side03:26
campbchsize*03:26
Jucatoyeah..03:27
Jucato:(03:27
campbchis there something wrong with gzip?03:27
cellofellowcampbch: well, apparently apt update files are gzipped and get piped through gzip. My system isn't getting corrupt files. Maybe your net connection? just a wild guess.03:27
Jucatocampbch: you can try changing servers. drop the us.03:28
campbchthat is a possibility03:28
cellofellowcampbch: can you unzip or zip some gzipped file?03:28
naegling23hey, im having a problem with amarok, I was having a problem with amarok-xine, so I removed amarok, now I cant install it, I get a break install03:28
campbchbecause i am having problems with my connection...03:28
Jucatoerr.... why didn't you say so?03:28
Jucatoit might have been a connection issue after all...03:28
cellofellowcampbch: what kind of connection? what router? (if you've got one.)03:29
campbchbecause it was working, it wasnt saying unable to connect03:29
campbchit's a wifi connection03:29
campbchover the university wireless03:29
Jucato@_@03:29
Jucatooh...03:29
campbchbut im in a dorm where it's being upgraded, and it's kinda shoddy ATM03:29
Jucatoit might be a problem with routers or that kind of stuff03:29
campbchi didn't know it would corrupt the files03:29
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JucatoI think apt-get has problems with routers... or whatever you call them03:30
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LjLJucato: DSL routers and that sort of thing?03:30
campbchthen would adept work at all?03:30
LjLno, it's more like the routers have problems ;-)03:30
LjLsome routers break APT because APT makes many DNS requests at a time, and the router's DNS server panics03:30
LjLthe fix is to set your own ISP's DNS as the system DNS server, instead of the router03:31
cellofellowI had to set a different DNS server than my router, and use a static IP cause my router was mangling something on APT.03:31
cellofellowyeah, that's what I had to do.03:31
campbchok, ill try something less volatile... is there a way to mass convert mp3s to .ogg files?03:31
cellofellowcampbch: as for adept, no, it's a graphical apt-get frontend. no apt-get, no adept.03:31
campbchyep03:32
campbchsounds about right03:32
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campbchthanks for trying to help, though03:32
soulrideranyone know if theres a way to add an http source to a torrent in azureus ?03:32
cellofellowcampbch: find out what DNS server your router forwards to and use that.03:33
campbchhow would i go about doing that?03:33
BonBonTheJoncampbch: look into mp32ogg03:34
cellofellowcampbch: try just connecting to it's IP address with your browser. If you can't get in cause of a password, ask the net admin guy.03:34
campbchhow do i find out what the ip address of the dns server?03:34
cellofellowBonBonTheJon: he hasn't any apt at the moment so he can't download new programs.03:34
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Ashex!static > Ash-Fox03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about static - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
AshexDamnit!03:35
cellofellowcampbch: it's usually 192.168.0.1 or similar.03:35
Jucato??03:35
Ashex!staticip > Ashex03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about staticip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
JucatoAshex: better just PM ubotu if you're not sure what you're looking for03:35
campbch198.111.37.17 or .1803:35
campbchis that it? i found that in the network config03:35
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cellofellowcampbch: is that the gateway>03:35
cellofellow?03:36
campbchi have no idea03:36
cellofellowcampbch: in system settings => network, what does it say is the default gateway?03:36
campbchit says could not connect to host03:36
campbchone sec03:36
cellofellowcampbch: under routing table or something.03:36
cellofellowcampbch: or run a tracert to something like google and see what the first hop is. that's the gateway and should be the router.03:37
campbch172.24.16.103:37
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campbchnope03:38
campbchweb admin @ .......03:38
cellofellowcampbch: they've got security enabled. ask the dorm staff.03:38
campbchehh they outsource03:38
campbchthis complicates things03:38
campbchowell03:38
cellofellowcampbch: tracepath google.com should tell you the gateway.03:38
cellofellowcampbch: can it be that hard to just find out the isp's dns server?03:39
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campbchone sec....03:41
eaguerrahello03:41
eaguerrai need help with LINUX03:41
BonBonTheJoneaguerra: whats your problem03:42
campbchtracepath google.com gets 172.24.16.103:42
cellofellowcampbch: as the first hop?03:42
campbchas the first hop03:42
eaguerraI'm new user and need a tutorial o manual03:42
BonBonTheJoneaguerra: what are you trying to do03:43
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Jucatoeaguerra: Kubuntu has a nice manual installed by default. in K Menu > Help > Kubuntu Documentation03:43
Jucatoit's not really a "manual", more of a guide03:43
eaguerrainstall aplications03:43
rawrnessI am thinking if get hold of a fresh box  il make a flash tut for starting03:43
eaguerrathanks jucato03:43
BonBonTheJoneaguerra: look in the menu for adapt03:44
rawrnesseverything from install and media03:44
BonBonTheJoneaguerra: adapt is how you install programs03:44
Jucato*cough* Adept *cough*03:44
campbchlinux is nooooooooooooooooooooooot an acronym :D03:44
BonBonTheJoneaguerra: of course, if you have any questions, you can come here and asl them03:44
eaguerrathanks03:45
BonBonTheJonJucato: I'd don't even use what ever it is, I use Synaptic03:45
Jucatoheh03:45
campbchwell03:45
campbchas a definition, linux is an acronym03:46
Jucato??03:46
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Jucatono it's not03:46
campbch1.  a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.03:46
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campbchLinus's Unix --> Linux03:46
Jucatono03:46
campbchno?03:46
campbchwhere am i wrong?03:47
MegaMasterXIts true.03:47
MegaMasterXCampbch is right.03:47
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JucatoLinux doesn't stand for anything except the folder where Linus stored the original Linux code03:47
MegaMasterX<.<03:47
MegaMasterXugh.03:47
campbch>.>03:47
Jucatobesides, if it was an acronym of Linus's Unix, then it would be LU03:47
MegaMasterXI smell a debate.03:47
campbchno03:47
campbchthats an acrostic03:47
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Jucatooh well03:47
MegaMasterXNot necessarily03:47
MegaMasterXLinux is clever.03:47
Jucatoyeah I saw the "loran" example03:47
MegaMasterXIt's not as boring as LU03:48
campbchsee that last example, loran from long-range nav03:48
seishinbyouHmm, is there a way to exclude the "kicker" from the Application Switcher in Beryl?03:48
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campbchwhy doesn't tracepath ever actually get to the end ip address?03:50
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campbchif i man something, how do i unman it?03:53
cellofellow_campbch: I don't know it did that with google to me too. try something else.03:53
cellofellow_campbch: q03:53
campbchexit vim, whatever the viewer is?03:53
campbchk03:53
campbchthe one and only button left to press...03:53
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cellofellow_gtg, cya l8er. good luck campbch03:55
campbchthanks much03:55
campbchick late03:55
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campbchsenegal fast food!03:56
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coreymon77just curious04:02
coreymon77is there a hebrew kubuntu channel04:02
HawkwindWhat's the country code for Hebrew ?04:02
Hawkwindhb, he ?04:02
LjL!he04:02
ubotu         04:02
HawkwindWow!  That's quite interesting looking04:03
LjLi don't see a channel there, though...? :o)04:03
coreymon77interesting04:03
Jucatoeheh04:03
coreymon77i know exactly what it says04:03
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LjLwell, what does it say?04:03
seishinbyouPretty squiggles.  Can't read them, but pretty nonetheless04:03
Hawkwindcoreymon77: /msg chanserv list *kubuntu*  That will give you all the channels with *kubuntu* in the name04:03
coreymon77it means04:03
coreymon77for conversations in hebrew and to the meet the hebrew channel (literal: sentence community), go to04:05
LjL...to?04:05
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coreymon77thats it04:06
coreymon77no channel04:06
LjLblah04:06
Hawkwindcoreymon77: Can you type in hebrew on your system ?04:07
coreymon77yup04:07
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Hawkwindcoreymon77: PM me something that would make sense and I can add it to the bot04:08
HawkwindAdd in a channel name too if you could04:08
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coreymon77there is no channel04:09
eaguerrahow run a script04:09
coreymon77hawkind: what ubotu is saying makes perfect sense04:10
coreymon77there just isnt a channel04:10
JucatoHawkwind: the IRC wiki doesn't list a hebrew channel04:10
coreymon77not with the command you told me04:10
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coreymon77ill try going to ircsearch.com and checking there though04:11
Hawkwindcoreymon77: If you have others that speak Hebrew you could create one04:11
coreymon77i doubt there are enough people04:11
coreymon77and im not fluent04:11
seishinbyouhrmf, noone hanging around kubuntu-jp.  Guess I'll just sit there in the hopes someone else drops by some year04:11
Jucatohai04:11
Jucato:)04:11
seishinbyou04:12
HawkwindSquiglies!04:12
seishinbyousquiglies will save the world04:12
Jucatothere are people hanging around in ubuntu-ph, but we have no kubuntu-ph :P04:12
JucatoI don't think we have enough users to have a channel of our own04:12
BonBonTheJonwhat is ph?04:12
JucatoPhilippines04:12
BonBonTheJonoh04:13
seishinbyouSo, Tagalog?04:13
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Jucatoa bit south of jp04:13
Jucatoseishinbyou: yeah, and a few other dialects04:13
seishinbyouMy coworker had to make a few trips there to sort out his Visa paperwork04:13
seishinbyouhe told me about the dialects and cheap medication04:13
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Jucatocoreymon77: maybe the channels aren't by language, but by country/localization.04:14
coreymon77       04:14
Jucatofor example there's an #ubuntu-il for Israel04:14
Jucato!il04:14
ubotu         04:14
ubotu/join #ubuntu-il04:14
Jucatosee04:14
coreymon77     04:14
rawrnesssmall channel04:14
coreymon77oh shit04:15
coreymon77whoops04:15
coreymon77forgot to change layout04:15
coreymon77s04:15
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat has a list of available channels04:15
coreymon77i meant04:15
coreymon77there is only one person there04:15
max0is there an irc channel for games for linux?04:15
Jucatowhoa, why isn't kubuntu-jp listed then?04:15
DBOJucato, some channels simply havnt been added to the list, feel free to do so however04:16
seishinbyouHeh04:16
Jucatooh04:16
Jucatoor maybe the channel isn't registered yet?04:16
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Jucatooh well04:16
coreymon77i dont think there are enough people who speak hebrew to make a channel04:17
coreymon77plus04:17
coreymon77i dont speak it fluently04:17
coreymon77english is my first language04:17
Jucatocoreymon77: I think the convention is to use #ubuntu-CC naming, by localization, not by language04:17
Jucatofrom the wiki: "If you start a new local channel, please adhere to the #ubuntu-CC naming convention"04:18
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LogicalDashI'm trying to install the ieee80221 subsystem and make is giving me a strange error, "no rule to make target `modules'." Any help? See full paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27419/04:19
coreymon77i looked in kubuntu-il04:19
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coreymon77it doesnt exist04:19
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coreymon77if there were more people04:19
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coreymon77maybe04:19
coreymon77but there isnt04:20
Jucatocoreymon77: but #ubuntu-il does exist04:20
coreymon77ya04:20
coreymon77there is one peroon there04:20
Zaireanyone in here know where I can get some cool LInux Avatar packs?04:20
Jucatoat least according to the wiki04:20
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digivore!tar04:20
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression04:20
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Zairelike avatar packs of the diff linux mascots and even of the bsd mascot04:20
campbcheck04:21
seishinbyouI don't know of any "packs".  You could do a google image search if you really wanted, I guess04:22
campbchwhat package is required to find mp3/info.pm and such? to be able to convert from mp3 to ogg?04:22
coreymon77BESIDES04:22
coreymon77sorry04:22
coreymon77didnt know caps was on04:22
coreymon77besides04:22
digivoreis this correct syntax? :   tar -zxvf file.tar04:22
coreymon77most people who would want a hebrew channel would be israelis04:22
Jucato!mp32ogg04:22
ubotump32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB04:22
coreymon77and there is the 7 hour time difference thing04:22
Jucatocampbch: ^^^^^04:22
campbchok.... i got mp32ogg, and it returned04:23
campbchan't locate MP3/Info.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5                                                                                                   .8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5                                                                                                   .8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at mp32ogg line 84.04:23
campbchBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mp32ogg line 84.04:23
seishinbyouTime differences are nothing to worry about unless it involes dealing with family or clients04:23
campbchim looking for @inc, i think?,.....04:23
Jucatoerrr04:24
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bsnideris anyone here using a router?04:24
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BonBonTheJonbsnider: i do at home04:24
bsniderBonBonTheJon: are you there now?04:24
campbchack never mind, ill just go to bed04:25
BonBonTheJonbsnider: no, i am at school, but i also have a router here, why04:25
campbchbetter luck next time, eh04:25
campbchthanks jucato04:25
bsniderBonBonTheJon: are you using linux now?04:25
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BonBonTheJonbsnider: yeah kubuntu dapper04:25
bsniderBonBonTheJon: check the contents of you /etc/resolv.conf file04:25
bsniderwhat's the address of the first nameserver?04:26
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rawrnessleaving cyaall04:26
BonBonTheJonbsnider: the ip of my router04:26
bsniderBonBonTheJon: i need you to do something risky04:27
BonBonTheJonbsnider: its a wireless router04:27
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: comment out that line04:27
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: and then try browsing04:27
BonBonTheJonbsnider: what is that supposed to do04:27
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: it should have some effect on your browsing, making it faster or slower04:27
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seishinbyouaugh, php...rotting...brain...must escape04:28
BonBonTheJonbsnider: i didn't really notice any difference04:28
tony_I need help installing KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu04:28
bLaZeDanyone i here using the newest gtkpod?04:28
bsniderBonBonTheJon: i see04:28
bsnidertony_: what kind of help?04:29
BonBonTheJontony_: go to the kubuntu website, there are instructions there04:29
bsniderBonBonTheJon: what brand of router do you have at home?04:30
BonBonTheJonbsnider: at home is a linksys wrt-54g with dd-wrt, here at school i have a belkin wireless-b router04:31
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: belkin?04:32
BonBonTheJonbsnider: its my old router, it was cheap when i got it04:32
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: that's the brand i'm having trouble with here. there's a 10 second delay caused by the nameserver line, as if the router is genuinely acting like a nameserver04:33
tony_ I am a TOTAL Newbie and I am having a hard time following the directions on the site.04:34
bsnidertony_: describe your system currently ine xacting detail04:35
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tony_PC stats wise or OS?04:35
bsniderOS04:36
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BonBonTheJonbsnider: I tried it agian, with sites i've never been before, and i didn't see much of a performance change04:36
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tony_Kubuntu stock set-up. I put the disk in ....let it run...now here I am.04:37
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: but there's not a 10 second delay with the line uncommented, right?04:37
omarguys I saw a linux with a konsole as a wallpaper, do you know a how to for that, I can't find it , even with my friend google04:37
BonBonTheJonbsnider: no difference between the two04:37
bsnidertony_: dapper or edgy? when did you install it?04:37
tony_Yesterday.04:38
BonBonTheJontony_: is this a live cd, or did you install kubuntu04:38
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tony_Full install.04:38
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bsnideri'm not sure riddell's building 3.5.5 for dapper, or just edgy04:38
BonBonTheJontony_: ok, open up konsol and run 'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg'04:39
BonBonTheJontony_: konsole*04:39
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BonBonTheJonbsnider: i have 3.5.5 running on dapper04:39
bsniderBonBonTheJon: then he should have it automatically, unless he's not running his upgrades04:40
BonBonTheJonbsnider: I had to add a repository04:40
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judgenhi04:40
bsniderBonBonTheJon:  get edgy04:40
judgenhow come dri does not work in edgy?04:41
BonBonTheJonbsnider: I like dapper, plus I don't have a graphics card to do all the eye candy04:41
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tony_I did that wget BonBonTheJon04:41
bsniderjudgen: you may have to load the module manually04:41
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BonBonTheJonomar: there is a console that pops down04:41
judgenbsnider: command?04:41
BonBonTheJontony_: now do 'sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' to add the key04:41
bsniderjudgen: if you know what the module name is, you can add it to /etc/modules, and then reboot04:42
judgenXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".04:42
omarBonBonTheJon what do you mean04:42
bsniderjudgen: for me, it's radeon04:42
BonBonTheJonomar: search your package manager for quake04:42
tony_BonBonTheJon: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found04:43
BonBonTheJontony_: hmm, let's see if it still works04:43
bsniderBonBonTheJon: was the repo 'kde-latest'?04:44
judgenbsnider, i have radeon loaded04:44
bsniderjudgen: what's your graphics card?04:44
BonBonTheJonbsnider: yeah04:44
judgenradeon 980004:44
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BonBonTheJontony_: now in the command line do 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:45
BonBonTheJontony_: then at the end put in 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main'04:45
bsniderjudgen: i think that should be the proprietary ati drivers, unless you want aiglx04:45
judgensame error with fglrx04:45
bsniderjudgen: open terminal and type "glxgears -printfps"04:45
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judgenbsnider: what i get then is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."04:46
judgengot some answer from a forum claiming that the dir structure in edgy has changed04:47
bsniderjudgen: check the forum on that04:47
judgenand that is why it does not work the same way as dapper did04:47
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bsniderjudgen: i would try blowing away all of the hidden kde config directories, but don't blame me when you lose your settings04:48
BonBonTheJonbsnider: what do like so much about edgy04:48
tony_BonBonTheJon: Bunch of errors... Can'nt connect to X Server etc....04:48
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BonBonTheJontony_: does it still open04:48
seishinbyouEdgy is great for me as hibernate/suspend *finally* works on my laptop04:48
bsniderBonBonTheJon: fewer bugs, newer kernel04:49
tony_What?04:49
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BonBonTheJontony_: does kate open up04:49
BonBonTheJontony_: kate is a text editor04:49
BonBonTheJonbsnider: newer than 2.6.15-2704:49
tony_Yes...blank screen04:50
bsniderBonBonTheJon: yes04:50
BonBonTheJontony_: use the menu to open /etc/apt/sources.list04:50
bsniderBonBonTheJon: 2.6.17-10-generic04:50
BonBonTheJontony_: it should have text in the file04:51
tony_Yes04:51
BonBonTheJontony_: add the line 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main' it should look somewhat similar to the other lines04:51
BonBonTheJonbsnider: what has changed, do you know04:52
bsniderBonBonTheJon: sorry04:52
BonBonTheJonbsnider: does amarok work right, because mine has been crashing a lot recently04:52
tony_Does it need a # in front of it like all the others/04:53
bsniderBonBonTheJon: amarok works fine here04:53
judgenbsnider:  are you sure kde has anything to do with the accel of xorg?04:53
BonBonTheJontony_: no, a # means it is disabled04:53
bsniderBonBonTheJon: what was the crash message?04:53
bsniderjudgen: no, but if directories have been moved, then your old settings might be pointing to the old locations04:53
BonBonTheJontony_: you might want to remove the # in front of the other 'deb' parts, this will allow you access to more software04:54
tony_I pasted it and hit enter.04:54
tony_OK04:54
bsniderjudgen: gnome didn't work for me until i blew away its old config directories04:54
tony_All of them?04:54
igorhey guys...there do you know that program that shou some information of the computer in the desktop...like memory...temperature.....04:54
igor:T04:54
bsniderigor superkaramba04:54
BonBonTheJontony_: only before lines that have deb in them, the others are comments04:54
igorthanks04:55
BonBonTheJonbsnider: it crashes when i start it up04:55
BonBonTheJonbsnider: i'm trying it now04:55
bsniderBonBonTheJon: try it fromt eh command line and read the output. the executable is "amarokapp"04:55
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BonBonTheJonbsnider: of course it works when i'm trying to explain the error04:56
tony_BonBonTheJon: OK...I did that.04:56
bsniderand try it as root using those settings, by preceding the command with "kdesu"04:56
tony_Do I save it?04:56
Tarantulafudgewhat can I use to control cpu scaling and view the temperature on my laptop processor04:56
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BonBonTheJontony_: yes, save it, then close kate, and you should be back to the console04:57
tony_Yes I am.04:57
bsnidertony_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:57
BonBonTheJontony_: ok, now do 'sudo apt-get update' so the computer knows about it04:58
bsnidertony_: wait. sudo apt-get update first04:58
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seishinbyouTarantulafudge: There was one installed by default when I installed Kubuntu Edgy.  It uses a "PowerNow" Daemon04:58
BonBonTheJonbsnider: do you use kopete, is it better in edgy04:58
ZeroCoolwhat is the best mp3 player for kubuntu, that intergrates well.04:58
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: amarok04:58
tony_Updating....04:58
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: it is installed by default04:58
ZeroCoolunderstood, that04:59
Tarantulafudgeseishinbyou: how do I use/open it04:59
ZeroCoolbut is it the best04:59
ZeroCooland why04:59
bsniderBonBonTheJon: i do, and it's newer. there are improvements in two protocols, jabber and i think yim04:59
tony_It says Done.04:59
BonBonTheJontony_: now do 'sudo apt-get upgrade'04:59
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: its a lot more powerful than other players like xmms04:59
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bsniderZeroCool: because it is04:59
ZeroCoolwhat about juk05:00
ZeroCoolor kaffeine05:00
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: only thing I wish was if daap was better integrated05:00
bsniderZeroCool: juk sucks05:00
ZeroCoolk05:00
ZeroCoolwhat about kaffeine05:00
BonBonTheJonbsnider: I dont know about the others, but amarok can sync an ipod05:00
seishinbyouTarantulafudge:  powernowd -h lists all the options, but the default settings are just fine05:00
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: ^^^05:00
bsniderZeroCool: kaffeine is a video player05:00
ZeroCooland its plays audio05:01
ZeroCoolusing xine05:01
ZeroCoolengine05:01
bsniderZeroCool: kaffeine does not manage a media library using a database05:01
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Tarantulafudgeseishinbyou: my laptop is clocked at 500 (900 mhz processor) and its plugged into the wall05:01
ZeroCoolheard that05:01
ZeroCoolamarok uses sql05:01
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: yeah, it depends on if you organize your music, or if you want the software to05:01
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sorush21how do I restart my kmenu its missing after I have booted in .. I mean the task bar05:01
ZeroCoolhow about 28,000 thousand in my collection05:02
HawkwindZeroCool: There is no such thing as 'best media player'.  That is merely a personal opinion of everyone here.  Use many and see what *you* like best, not what others like or prefer05:02
Hawkwindsorush21: kicker05:02
ZeroCoolread abov05:02
ZeroCoolcan it handle it05:02
bsniderZeroCool: amarok can look up lyrics, sync ipods, look up artist info on wikipedia, use podcasts, and play radio streams05:02
ZeroCoolor should I go and use mpd05:02
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: it should be able to handle it05:02
ZeroCoolwhat about re-tagging05:02
ZeroCoolautomatic05:02
seishinbyouTarantulafudge: Sort of like mine.  It is running at 600mhz whereas it is a 1.7 ghz processor.  It shoots up to 100% speed when I do anything processor intensive automatically anyways05:02
BonBonTheJontony_: hows it coming05:02
bsniderZeroCool: there's a tagger in amarok05:02
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ZeroCoolbut is it automatic05:03
tony_BonBonTheJon: Its done.05:03
tony_Do I reboot?05:03
Tarantulafudgeseishinbyou: how do i test that05:03
bsniderZeroCool: how do you mean automatic?05:03
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HawkwindZeroCool: Try all of them, see what *YOU* like, not what others like05:03
BonBonTheJonZeroCool: it can look up cover art automatically, granted it messes up sometimes05:03
BonBonTheJontony_: yeah, you can restart to see if it worked...05:03
BonBonTheJontony_: not much will look different though05:04
seishinbyouTarantulafudge: In your System Tray, if there is a "Power Manager" icon, hover your mouse over it, then do something processor intensive like reencode a video or something and check again05:04
ZeroCoolhave a sh_T load of tags, that need to be corrected.....05:04
seishinbyouTarantulafudge: you can force settings through the command line if you want05:04
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BonBonTheJontony_: come back here after you restart05:04
max0does anyone know the xgl room?05:04
HawkwindZeroCool: So use easytag05:04
bsniderZeroCool: you need a tagging program05:04
ZeroCoolyes, tell me more05:04
ZeroCoolwhich05:04
tony_Thanks for the help/ I'll try to get back in here  to let you know if it worked. Thanks again.05:04
ZeroCoolbest05:04
seishinbyouTarantulafudge: -u and -l can specify upper and lower CPU usage %05:04
HawkwindZeroCool: No such thing as 'best'05:04
ZeroCoolautomatic05:05
tony_Right on05:05
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ZeroCoolclose 205:05
HawkwindZeroCool: Search for 'easytag'05:05
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ZeroCoolk05:05
HawkwindZeroCool: Actually, sudo apt-get install easytag05:05
HawkwindZeroCool: Then run it and use it. It's very simple and works wonders05:05
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max0does anyone know the link to the xgl irc room05:05
kalim86hey anyone kno the name for Unbuntu?05:05
Hawkwindmax0: #Ubuntu-XGL05:06
kalim86thank you05:06
max0thank you05:06
BonBonTheJonkalim86: what do you mean05:06
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: i think he means #ubuntu05:06
ZeroCoolTKS ++05:07
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bsnideri've got to choose a horror flick to watch tonight05:07
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softmasteri had this error after updating my kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27424/05:08
BonBonTheJontony_: any luck05:09
sorush21hi i have a make error how do I debug it ?05:09
softmasterwith many packages either?05:09
tony_Nothing looks different..05:09
softmasterany help05:09
bsnidersoftmaster: type sudo apt-get -f install in a terminal05:10
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BonBonTheJontony_: in any kde app, select the help, then about kde05:10
BonBonTheJontony_: it should say 3.5.505:10
BonBonTheJonsorush21: can you pastebin your error05:11
BonBonTheJon!pastebin > sorush2105:11
kalim86anyone know much about ubuntu?05:11
Hawkwindsorush21: First of all, what are you trying to build/compile ?05:11
Hawkwindkalim86: All of us do, do you have a question ?05:11
BonBonTheJonkalim86: whats your question05:11
tony_Adept is installing a bunch of updates.05:11
bsniderkalim86: god damn right05:11
Hawkwind!language05:11
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:11
kalim86ok i cant use my wireless card05:11
softmasterbsnider: it didn't fix the problem05:11
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kalim86i have a acer and when i used winxp the light was on05:12
kalim86now its not and it doesnt work05:12
kalim86and i think the card is installed05:12
bsnidersoftmaster: sudo dpkg --configure-a05:12
Hawkwind!wireless > kalim8605:12
kalim86but i cant get it to connect05:12
tony_BonBonTheJon: 3.5.205:12
BonBonTheJontony_: what is it installing now05:12
tony_Looks like apps....05:13
omarguys mu "add/remove software" is gone05:13
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omarI mean is not in the menu anymore05:14
BonBonTheJontony_: its probably installing 3.5.5 now05:14
softmasterbsnider: no use :(05:14
omarwhat's the command to get it back05:14
BonBonTheJontony_: there are a lot of updates for it05:14
BonBonTheJonkalim86: are you fixing it okay05:14
bsnidersoftmaster: do a web search for the portion of the pastebin message that contained the "hash table" blurb05:14
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tony_Yea...I think you're right....I just saw "Replacing Konquer" flash by...05:16
BonBonTheJonomar: you dont really need that, unless you used it alot05:16
BonBonTheJontony_: i think it downloaded like 107MB when I did it, so it might take a while05:16
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omarBonBonTheJon got you, but just in case, what's the command to open it by konsole05:16
BonBonTheJonomar: you can install software with adept05:17
BonBonTheJonomar: i dont know how to get it back05:17
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bsniderBonBonTheJon: how to get what back?05:17
BonBonTheJonbsnider: the 'add/remove software' from the menu05:18
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osiriscan onyone recomend an icon editor for kubuntu ?05:18
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sanderdoes anyone know how to set the default resolution for kdm?05:19
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BonBonTheJon!kiconedit > osiris05:20
bsniderhome run molina. cards up 3-105:21
hazard2what package should I install to get gtk-config?05:22
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BonBonTheJonhazard2: i cant find anything about gtk-config05:24
hazard2Hrm...05:25
hazard2Maybe I'm just insane then...05:25
bsniderhazard2: what do you need it for?05:25
hazard2Thanks anyway.05:25
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hazard2shxd05:25
hazard2a hotline client05:25
hazard2it seems to want it05:25
BonBonTheJonhazard2: i did a package search and there is no gtk-config05:26
bsniderhazard2: hotline?05:26
hazard2its an old file sharing protocol05:26
bsniderhazard2: too old, i'd say05:26
bsniderhazard2: do you absolutely have to have it, or esle you'll die?05:27
hazard2hey, it works (since the death of my laptop though, its gotten harder to find a client)05:27
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hazard2Well, its kinda how I print my homework...05:27
hazard2(send home to webserver, and then print on school PC)05:28
bsniderhazard2: you print your homework using a file sharing network?05:28
hazard2its not really a file sharing network05:28
hazard2there's a server, then clients connect to it, it isn't p2p or anything.05:28
tony_Bon05:28
bsniderhazard2: something tells me there's a better way of doing this. what about ftp?05:29
BonBonTheJontony_: any news05:29
hazard2a pain to configure for me?05:29
BonBonTheJonhazard2: yeah, setup an ftp server05:29
hazard2I have a webserver.05:29
BonBonTheJonhazard2: setting up ftp probably would be less work than getting shxd to work05:29
bsniderhazard2: you probably wouldn't need to secure it though05:30
hazard2But I can't get apache to share folders on network shares from windows PCs (which hotline does just fine)05:30
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BonBonTheJonhazard2: use samba to share the folder05:30
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tony_BonBonTheJon: It worked...the only thing is the font changed...like it reminds me of Mozilla back in the day. How do I get it back to how it was before? It looked "cleaner"?05:30
BonBonTheJonhazard2: thats how i edit my web site05:30
bsniderBonBonTheJon: not on the internet!05:30
hazard2nononoo BonBon05:30
BonBonTheJonbsnider: i know not on the internet, but on my local network05:31
hazard2I'd need APACHE to HOST pages ON network volumes05:31
hazard2Well, that dosen't help me any now does it?05:31
hazard2(and yes, I already do)05:31
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hazard2(on the home local network)05:31
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BonBonTheJontony_: go into the control panel and look around the appearence section about anti-aliasing05:32
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bsniderhazard2: ftp is the best way to do it05:32
BonBonTheJonhazard2: maybe look into webdav05:32
malcolmhow do i get the system time from the kernal?05:32
hazard2webdav works too, but its locking mechnism is to anal to let other home network stuff to work right.05:33
BonBonTheJonmalcolm: the first part of 'uptime' gives the time05:33
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hazard2(and I do use webdav, I've found that hotline [before laptop death]  was more stable and faster)05:33
hazard2of course, I can't do what I need using webdav at the moment.05:34
BonBonTheJonhazard2: i have samba for local network, and ftp for internet05:34
hazard2here's the thing with FTP: the OSX implementation of it is irratating.05:34
hazard2(and I've never used it on linux, so I don't know_)05:34
hazard2but either way that'd require configuration changes....AT HOME...05:35
hazard2which I can't do right now.05:35
BonBonTheJonhazard2: thats why you need ssh05:35
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bsniderhazard2: you could try forcing the installation05:35
BonBonTheJontony_: did you find anti-aliasing05:35
hazard2I specifically _DISABLED_ ssh on the server.05:35
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BonBonTheJonhazard2: you can disable ssh for the root, that helps deter hackers05:36
hazard2'helps' how about, no ssh 'stops'05:36
coreymon77goodnight everyone05:36
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BonBonTheJonhazard2: and you can specify who are the only users who can ssh in05:36
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hazard2I know.05:37
hazard2but my view on security is less stuff, less risk.05:37
bsniderhazard2: as long as you've got a hell of a good password, it's fine05:37
hazard2and ssh _CAN_HAVE_ lots of system access.05:37
coreymon77gnight05:37
BonBonTheJonhazard2: or, if you are behind a router/firewall, disable the port for ssh, except when you need it05:37
coreymon77gtg05:37
hazard2I try to keep it so that NO network service can actually do anything destructive.05:37
BonBonTheJonbye coreymon7705:37
coreymon77gnight05:38
hazard2'night corey05:38
BonBonTheJonhazard2: remember, these are only suggestions, you dont need to do any of it05:38
hazard2I know :)05:39
AshexSo, I've got this really irritating issue with the kbars05:39
Ashexthey like to randomly freeze up05:39
Ashexit doesn't respond to anything i do for like, 10 seconds05:40
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Age1172help05:40
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BonBonTheJonAge1172: what is your problem05:40
Age1172i had kubuntu installed on my other machine05:41
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BonBonTheJonAshex: what is kbars05:41
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Age1172and after update it doesnt logon to gui05:41
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hazard2BonBonTheJon: do you know how to remove an entry from the system settings menu?05:41
Age1172it gives an error05:41
BoganKiwiI installed kubuntu but i want gnome/ubuntu as a session ...how do I add it on to kubuntu?05:41
BoganKiwiplz05:41
AshexBonBonTheJon, the menu on the bottom05:42
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AshexI have another one on the left-side05:42
Ashexer, panels05:42
Ashexthat's what I meant to say05:42
hazard2ah, as I suspected, gtk-config is part of gtk (basepkg)-dev05:42
AshexBoganKiwi, sudo apt-get install gnome05:43
BoganKiwithanks05:43
BonBonTheJonBoganKiwi: install ubuntu-desktop05:43
Ashexand when you login, click the little drop down bar and select Gnome as your session05:43
BoganKiwiubuntu-desktop doesnt seem to work05:43
AshexI believe kde uses ubuntu-desktop too, so you need to install gnome itself05:44
BoganKiwiE: Package gnome has no installation candidate05:44
BonBonTheJonAshex: kubuntu should use kubuntu-desktop05:44
AshexAge1172, what's the error05:44
AshexBonBonTheJon, good point05:44
BonBonTheJonhazard2: what are you trying to do05:44
Age1172that is the error : xsession: warning:unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error05:44
AshexBoganKiwi, enable multiverse05:44
BoganKiwiok05:44
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BonBonTheJonAshex: ubuntu-desktop should be in main05:45
bsniderBonBonTheJon: he didn't try ubuntu desktop he tried gnome05:45
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BonBonTheJonAge1172: log in and do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and see if that fixes it05:46
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BonBonTheJonAshex: i dont know about the kbar problem05:46
Age1172this problem happened after update05:46
hazard2I removed all the bluetooth stuff from the system, but the icon for the bluetooth control panel is still there in the system settings05:46
Ashexman, if i can't figure it why the panels keep freezing up, i might have to reinstall or something :/05:46
Ashex:( nutters05:46
hazard2its annoying more than anything, and it seems stupid if I can't remove it.05:47
BonBonTheJonhazard2: i dont know if you can05:47
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Ashexbsnider, it sounds like he just doesn't have permissions to /tmp as a regular user05:47
hazard2heh, go figure05:47
Ashexmaybe a chmod?05:47
bsniderAshex: everyone has permissions to /tmp, that's the point05:47
BonBonTheJonAge1172: when you log in, then do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'05:48
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Ashexbsnider, yeah, he would have way more problems if he didn't have access05:48
Age1172ok i'll try05:48
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Dr_willis!easysource05:52
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:52
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Dr_willisHmm.. anyone noticed an easysource like site for normal debian?05:52
Ashexgoogle?05:52
plugsI have some questions about video editing.05:52
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Dr_willisdoing that now.. i  just liked how easysource worked.. not finding one similer.05:53
plugsFirst, is there a way to take frames and turn them into a video file?05:53
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Dr_willisI thought i saw that option with ffmpeg plugs05:53
plugsi'll look into thta05:53
MasterEvilAceanyone else using APT-GET and having problems upgrading a bunch of python-egenix packages?05:53
MasterEvilAcethey're being held-back05:54
BonBonTheJonMasterEvilAce: if there are help back, do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'05:54
plugsaaack!05:55
MasterEvilAceBonBonTheJon: i've done that many times.. they're still getting held-back for some reason05:55
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BonBonTheJonMasterEvilAce: hmm05:55
plugsi can't use sudo cause my clock was off and the last time it was used is tomorrow05:56
MasterEvilAceRunning Edgy, btw05:56
plugsand you need sudo to change your clock.05:56
Dr_willishmm... i cant say that ive ever seen that happen plugs  and ive had clocks set to all sorts of times.05:58
Dr_willissudo -s    perhaps.. or reboot and set the time in the bios. :)05:59
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AshexOoooo06:00
AshexI just discovered a feature!06:00
plugsweird06:00
plugscheck this out then Dr_willis06:00
Ashexscrolling the middle wheel at the top cycles through windows06:00
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BonBonTheJonAshex: whereever there are tabs, you can scroll through them06:00
plugssudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 20 22:41:09 200606:00
Dr_willisAshex,  :)06:03
Dr_willisya can set it up do scroll anywhere on the desktop that way.. or over the desk-pager06:04
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ubuntuIn edgy eft, does anyone know how to turn off the bouncy cursor icons when a program is loading?06:07
Dr_willisThats a kde panel/feedback settings - in the menus/somewhere. :)06:09
BonBonTheJonubuntu: go in to the control panel, then look in appearance fo 'launch feedback"06:09
Dr_willisricght click on the panel, look in those menus :)06:09
Dr_willis"Linux: Explore your OS" :)06:09
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ubuntuThat's funny, that's where I was looking, but it is definitely not there.  I just have Colors, Fonts, GTK Styles and Fonts, Font Installer, Icons, Style, and Window Decoration.06:11
Ashexin edgy?06:12
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AshexI want to say style>effects in appearance06:13
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ubuntuAshex: It's not there either.06:14
ubuntuStrange thing is if I type feedback in the search textarea, It says that there is one found in General, but all the icons are gray.06:15
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Ashexyeah, i'm not finding it06:17
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ubuntuAshex: when you click on Monitor & Display, do you get the message "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"?06:19
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AshexYup06:20
Ashexweird, worked before for me06:20
usHas anyone here used systemrescuecd?06:21
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moj0risingit is a cd with a lot of (guess) recue tools.06:22
moj0risingrescue06:22
mrvw0169ubuntu: hit alt+f2, type in kcontrol06:24
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mrvw0169look at appearance>launch feedback06:24
Dr_willissystemrescuecd - has saved my backside a few times. :)06:24
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jbeitlerhello hello06:24
ubuntumrvw0169: ah thank you.  That bouncy icon was going to drive me crazy.06:25
mrvw0169lol06:25
Dr_willisPhear the Bouncy Icon!06:25
Dr_willis:)06:25
ubuntuInterestingly I don't get an error when going to Monitor & Display via kcontrol.06:26
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_pansatoy_hello06:28
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Dr_willisMoo!06:28
BonBonTheJonmoo?06:28
Dr_willisMuu!06:29
Dr_willisfortune | cowsay06:29
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en1gmahey all got a Q06:29
en1gmawhat amount of space do i need to a hd install06:30
unix_infidelhow much do you have?06:30
BonBonTheJonen1gma: it depends on how much you want to put on it06:30
BonBonTheJonen1gma: you could do as little as maybe 5GB06:30
en1gmai have a 2gig hd that has a 512MB swap06:31
en1gmaas little as 5GB???????06:31
unix_infidelen1gma: how much physical RAM06:31
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en1gma256mb06:31
judgenwhere can i get cgwd for edgy?06:31
en1gmaand a 2.8ghz ht proc06:31
unix_infidelen1gma: you wont be able to put gnome or kde on there.06:31
en1gmabad mix eh06:31
en1gmacrap i was wanting kde06:31
BonBonTheJonen1gma: it should work on 2gig, but you'll be very restricted06:32
unix_infidelen1gma: RAM is expensive currently.06:32
en1gmamaybe i shouldnt do kubuntu06:32
Hawkwind!info cgwd edgy06:32
ubotuPackage cgwd does not exist in edgy06:32
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Hawkwindjudgen: Doesn't seem to be in any repo.  Probably have to search google for it06:32
judgenwhat do i use instead then?06:33
judgendoes not compiz/xgl depend on it?06:33
MotorCitymadManhelo:error using k3b:Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root. ISO burned fine. this can be ignored or does this need action ?06:33
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Hawkwindjudgen: Might ask in #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel or in #Ubuntu-XGL06:34
T3hWiz0rderrr isn't tihs a dapper channel?06:35
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: More or less in a lot of ways.  But if we know the answer to Edgy questions we would certainly answer them06:35
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digivorehow do i install a .rpm file?06:41
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tupac06:42
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digivore!rpm06:43
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).06:43
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Hawkwinddigivore: You don't install rpm's on Kubuntu.  You use .deb files06:44
judgenhmm i only have xgl in windowed mode.. and kdm seems to have borked completley06:44
Hawkwinddigivore: I wouldn't recommend using alien at all.06:44
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rickyhow is the world today?06:47
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ashwin_boring06:47
rickyspinning around of course06:47
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rickywhy boring06:48
jitaHow to remove openoffice office sompletely so that it wont show up while doing dist-upgrade?06:48
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Ashexanyone have experience sharing a printer in samba?06:49
AshexI'm using kcontrol to set it up06:49
AshexI've gotten it to the point of where I can add the printer on my laptop06:49
Ashexbut I get access denied06:49
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rickywath stands  kubuntu for? (pardon my ask)06:51
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T3hWiz0rdricky: ubuntu means kindness to humans06:52
AshexK stands for KDE06:52
rickyok fine06:53
rickythis is mexico   ( where all of you you are)06:54
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seishinbyouwhat's this, we all magically transported to Mexico?06:54
Ashextequila!06:54
rickyyes you are06:54
rickytequila sounds good06:55
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seishinbyoujust finished lunch...tequila might not be bad06:55
rickycerveza sounds better06:55
seishinbyouprobably not a good idea at work, though06:55
rickybeer i meant06:55
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rickyok pal06:56
seishinbyouIt isn't an insult06:56
mandohey cvirus!06:56
seishinbyouI honestly don't know much about Mexico06:57
rickydont worry06:57
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mandou there dude?06:57
lenorericky: is your native language spanish ?06:57
mandoguys how can i register so i can pm?06:57
rickyenrique06:57
rickysi hablo espaol06:57
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NameNomad!format06:57
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks06:57
rickyi speack spanish06:58
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mandoanyone speaks deutsch?06:58
rickynot me sorry mando06:58
mandoi'm learning deutsch06:58
lenorericky: is that "normal" spanish or some variation of spanish... is exactly the same spanish as spoken in Spain ?06:59
rickywhere you from dude?06:59
mandowho me?06:59
rickyyes i can speak and understand all kinds of spanish is not hard to (leonore)06:59
seishinbyoumi to es enfermo pero la carretera es verde07:00
rickybut....spanish of mexico have influences of native language (nahuatl) and english too07:00
NameNomadhow can I format a slave harddrive?07:01
rickyis kind of crumbble (if you know watha i mean lol07:01
lenorericky: ah, okay, so not exactly the same as spanish Spanish07:01
rickyno07:01
rickyfor example07:02
rickyyou said: me gusta comer guajolote (lol) that mean i like turkey meat07:02
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seishinbyouBut maybe he really does like turkey meat07:03
rickylol07:03
lenorericky: I can't PM you... if you would like a paid job translating some web pages please send an email to markc@renta.net ... sorry to everyone else for being off-topic07:04
dudemando: hello07:04
dudericky: hello07:04
dudericky: philippines07:04
Martijn81lol@edgy-> $ sudo aptitude update [enter]  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 20 08:55:53 200607:04
rickyok sorry too i didnt meant to disturb sorry07:04
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rickyhi phillippins07:05
seishinbyou07:05
NameNomadhow can I format my extra hardrive?07:05
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Ashexbah, i give up07:05
rickyseishinbyou whats that?07:05
AshexI'll just wait for an edgy tut07:05
rickyhi dude07:05
mandohey dude07:06
dudericly: hello07:06
dudemando: yo07:06
seishinbyouricky: just a crazy moon language07:06
mandoyo07:06
mandolsn guys i have a question07:06
mandohow come i can find the wireless networks but can communicate with it?07:07
lenoreNameNomad: in a shell... mkfs -j /dev/xxxx ... where xxxx is the other partition on the extra harddrive (presumably it's already partitioned, of course)07:07
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mandothe wirless assistant finds the networks, and i'm sure i've entered the encryption key correctly, however it still fails to connect07:07
lenoremando: they are probably encrypted, so you would need to know the WEP key, and also probably the ESSID for the access point07:08
mandothe LED on the router doesnt flicker so i dont think its communicating with the laptop07:08
T3hWiz0rdwireless on linux... its one of the things linux is going to have to overcome.07:08
rickyok seishinbyou07:08
mandowizard? is that fred?07:08
lenoremando: what about the ESSID and the right channel number etc?07:09
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seishinbyouoops07:09
mandohmm.. havent really done anything with that07:09
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mandolet me try it out07:10
rickyhi dude07:10
rcarrHi07:10
mandowhats the ESSID?07:10
mandothe name of the network right?07:10
dudehello ricky07:11
rickyleonore check private please07:11
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rickyoh no private room didnt work out leonore any way i already have you on my hotmail07:14
thompai could only boot with noapic, whats that mean I got to do anything else?07:15
thompa!apic07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
dudeis there a startup disk in ubuntu?07:16
thompadude: what do you mean?07:16
rcarrWhat do you mean "dude" like a disk to boot from07:16
rcarrif your system is hosed?07:17
thompathere is a live cd07:17
thompathe same one07:17
rickysee you guys  nice to meet all of yuo wiil be on contac leonore07:17
dudethompa: so i can use the live cd as a startup disk?07:17
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rcarrWhy do you need the disk07:17
NameNomad!mount07:17
rcarrto startup ubuntu?07:17
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks07:17
thompaare you running windows?07:18
thompaanybody know what the noapic boot does?07:18
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dudewhat if my system crashes? do i have to install whole OS again?07:19
rcarrapic is an interupt controller from intel for use with SMP setups07:19
rcarrnoapic boot disables it07:19
thomparcarr: im running duo core07:19
rcarrif you only have a single core/processor you should be fine without it07:19
rcarrAh, then that would be somethingn you want to use both cores07:19
thompai could not boot otherwise on 64 bit kubunt rc07:20
rcarrI would not run 64 bit on a duo core07:20
dudethompa: what if my system crashes? do i have to install the whole OS again?07:20
thompaif i just install it what happens07:20
rcarrIntels EMT64 on most of it's non server processors07:20
rcarrreally sucks07:20
thompadude: what OS, windos?07:20
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dudekubuntu07:20
dudethompa: kubuntu07:20
rcarrDude, generally crashes with linux don't involve having to do that07:21
rcarrthe worst case is you can boot from a live cd07:21
rcarrdownloadable from the site07:21
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thompajust bach up /home directory , Email, and docs if you want07:21
rcarrand mount your install07:21
rcarrthen run the command chroot07:21
thomparcarr: is there some way to get duo core going by installing07:22
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rcarrwhich, as implied by the name, you can set the / path to another folder07:22
rcarrand it's like interacting with your system07:22
rcarrno matter how borked it is07:22
dude<rcarr> and mount your install <--- ? wwhat do you mean?07:22
rcarrthompa: Your problem was the livecd would not boot without noapic?07:22
rcarrDude: When you install, you install to a physical device, like a hard drive, right?07:22
dudeok07:23
rcarrthis is represented in the /dev folder by something like07:23
rcarr /dev/hda2, or /dev/sda3, etc07:23
rcarrso you can run the command07:23
rcarrmount /dev/hda2 /mnt/MyInstall07:23
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rcarrto mount the device represented by hda2 at the folder MyInstall07:23
rcarrso MyInstall becomes the top level directory of that file system07:23
rcarrlocated at /mnt/MyInstall07:24
dudercarr: ok, so boot from the live cd, then chroot07:24
rcarrright07:24
rcarrin most cases, you probably don't have to chroot07:24
rcarrjust mount it and screw around with files07:24
rcarrbut if you need to interact with programs that are on the broken install, chrooting might be the best idea07:24
dudercarr: ok copy07:24
dudercarr: ok copy, tnx07:25
rcarrNo problem07:25
dudercarr: my system crashes 3X07:26
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dudercarr: because i installed the worng video card driver07:26
dudeDr_Willis: hello07:27
rcarrdude: you shouldn't need to do all the live cd stuff for things like that07:27
Dr_willishowdy07:27
rcarronce you boot your system, you get a console login prompt, right?07:27
rcarryou can login like normal, and run: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:28
dudercarr: ok, i'll try that one07:28
rcarrand find something that looks like Section "Device"07:28
rcarridentified "Video card name"07:28
rcarretc07:28
rcarrand change the driver entry to  a safe driver07:28
rcarrvesa is always safe, but for ati just use "ati" and nvidia "nv"07:29
rcarrit's pretty much guranteed to work07:29
rcarror run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:29
rcarrfor an interface to guide you through it07:29
dudercarr: ok, copy that...tnx again07:29
rcarra console based interface that is07:29
rcarrno problem07:29
rcarrI should stop breaking up my messages and spamming everyone, sorry about that07:30
Dr_willisits ok.. :P07:30
Dr_williswe know dude needs all the help he can get.07:31
Dr_willis:)07:31
dude:)07:31
dudeactually, im learnig...07:31
dude:)07:31
dudesudo command07:31
Dr_willisI just sit in these channels some days.. and wonder.. HOW did they break that!07:31
Dr_willis:)07:31
dudehehehe07:31
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Dr_willisat least you dident add a user by the name of 'root' during the install.07:32
dude:)07:32
dudechroot07:32
Dr_willisthe chroot of all evil.07:39
rcarr...desperately trying to start conversation?07:40
rcarrWe could talk about yakuake07:40
rcarrand how it is a gift from god07:40
dudeyakuake?07:41
rcarrIt is a program that gives you a tabbed set of shells07:41
rcarrsimilar to konsole07:41
rcarrbut when you press f1207:41
rcarrit slides down from the top of the screen07:42
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rcarrthen you press f12 again and it slides back up07:42
rcarrI think the name comes from "kuake" "quake"07:42
rcarrand the similar behavior of the console int he game07:42
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dudeyakuake is cool07:46
dudehehehe07:46
duderccar: so i have to load yakuake everytime i open my box to be abale to enable F12?07:47
duderccar: so i have to load yakuake everytime i open my box to be able to use F12?07:48
dudehello07:50
Dr_willisdude,   add it to the kde sessions if its not beign saved.. so it auto-runs07:50
dude?07:50
dude:)07:51
dudehow do i do that? sorry07:51
Dr_willislook in the menus under session07:51
pacmanJust thought I'd share this....a friend posted this on my website about MSIE 7.007:51
Dr_williskde is supposed to save whats running when you logout and save it to a session.07:51
pacmanWhat I'm having issues with is IE hijacking the first tab... always sending to a Microsoft URL.07:51
pacmanmy response: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox07:51
Dr_willisdude,  may want to track down a few kde tutorials/guides.. i aint on kde at the moment.. so cant tell ya where07:51
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dudeDr_Willis: i think it will saved automatically when i open my box07:53
dudeit depends maybe if i teminate yakuake after in shutdown07:53
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SolveneqHey guys, here's something: If i go to load an application, Ubuntu will seem like its loading something, then nothing happens... anyone have this issue?07:53
dudeit depends maybe if i teminate yakuake after i shutdown07:53
rcarrHi dude, sorry about that was working on something07:53
rcarrbut if you log out without killing yakuake07:53
rcarrit should automatically load up next time you log in07:53
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rcarrif it doesn't you can create a file in ~/.kde/Autostart07:53
draikI have an issue that I wonder if anyone else has had. My laptop won't turn off (complete power down) when I tell Kubuntu to shutdown. Any ideas?07:54
rcarrand name it anything, and just have it contain:07:54
rcarr#!/bin/sh07:54
rcarron the first line07:54
rcarrand07:54
rcarryakuake07:54
rcarron the second line07:54
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Dr_willisdraik,  ive always found suspend/sleep on laptops to be flakey.. but that sounds like an apci issue if its not pwoering off  when you tell it to shutdown.07:55
rcarracpi and apic should have more differentiated names07:56
Dr_willisrcarr,  yep.. i agree there07:56
Dr_willisit could be an apic and apci issue07:56
Dr_willis:)07:56
Dr_willistry noapic and noapci options07:57
SolveneqIt only happens every so often07:57
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draikDr_willis, what would you recommend to do? Or is there even a fix?07:57
Dr_willisdraik,  last time my laptop had that iussue.. a newer kernel eventually fixed it.07:58
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draikI have 3.5.507:58
Dr_willisor google for that  laptop.07:58
draikThis has happened since 3.5.207:58
dudeaside from krdc, terminal server client, any other recomendation?07:58
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Dr_willis3.5.5 - is the KDE version.. not the  kernel version..  if its a KDE issue.. log out of KDE.. then stop the kdm service.. then try the halt command.07:58
Dr_williscould be the diffrent kde's are using some other command to halt the system07:59
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Dr_willisdude,  recomdations for what?07:59
duderemote desktop07:59
Dr_willisI use vnc mainly07:59
draiksorry, I'm a bit lost ATM... too many issues with my sis's winxp on my network08:00
Dr_willisvnc4server for the most part.08:00
draikDr_willis ^^08:00
rcarrAn less error prone alternative08:00
rcarris x11vnc08:00
rcarras it is pretty much zero configuration08:00
Dr_willisif it does what you want.. :P08:01
Dr_willisi found x11vnc slower.. and it dident work how i wanted it.08:01
rcarranother alternative is, ssh, while not providing a remote desktop you can connect with "X11 tunelling" and run graphical programs on the remote computer08:01
rcarron the local computers xserver08:01
rcarrbut not an entire desktop enviroment08:01
rcarrAh, I have not experimented much with either to be honest08:01
Dr_willisYep.. thees 12+ ways to do this stuff..08:02
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Dr_willisand vnc has 12++ ways to do the vncish stuff. :)08:02
Dr_willisi got a machins set where when i vnc to it. it spawns a gdm login on the vncsession.08:02
Dr_willisand which port i vnc into. sets the res/depth of the vncserver display08:03
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Pazitron_BrainHello, where I can download the kubuntu sources? On the www.kubuntu.org I don't find it. I want to build distribution for russian "occidentalism", which based on kubuntu.08:07
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JucatoPazitron_Brain: in your sources.list, enable the "deb-src" repositories. the update. then you will be able to download the source for a package by doing "sudo apt-get source <package>"08:10
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krautmoin08:10
Pazitron_BrainOk, thanks.08:10
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draikI have my 2 Kubuntu systems on my network with assigned IP addresses (no DHCP). Would that cause the 3rd computer to not be able to connect, even if the router is set for DHCP?08:12
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rcarrI don't think so, networking isn't my thing though08:15
draikhmmm08:15
rcarrit seems remotely possible that the router could be trying to assign an IP taken by one of the  static systems08:15
rcarrbut, I don't think that would happen08:16
draiksister is getting on my nerves and can't get her to STFU so that I can fix the issue08:16
draikback to dynamic I go, I suppose08:16
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draik_Well, by going to DHCP, I don't get an IP assigned.08:21
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draikand even if I     sudo ifconfig eth0 123.456.789.101      I can't go online08:22
rcarrMm08:25
rcarrjust to make sure08:26
rcarrone of the kubuntu boxes08:26
rcarrisn't running a dhcp server, is it/08:26
draikno08:26
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draikI have a router08:26
draikkubuntu laptop... this kubuntu desktop... sister's winxp desktop08:26
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rcarrAh, because what I was thinking was08:27
rcarryou might have installed something that had a dhcp server as a dependency08:27
rcarrlike ltsp08:27
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rcarrand your sisters computer was trying to grab an ip from that08:28
rcarrrather than the router08:28
samuel_even when im not doing anything my internet is downloading hardout under kubuntu, any ideas why? does kubuntu auto update?08:28
rcarrsamuel, it won't update without you giving your password and confirming it, so no08:29
draikrcarr, I was able to connect before without any special settings on my behalf. Now, I have to assign IPs to my kubuntu systems08:29
rcarrWhich would seem to be consistent with something hijacking the DHCP08:29
rcarrbut certainlly not the only possibility08:29
rcarrI would check that you don't have something containing "dhcp" in /etc/init.d on either of the kubuntu boxes08:30
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draikI doubt it. I don't have anything worth anything on my computers and my sis... well, she's just special in her own way08:30
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draikwill do08:30
draik1 sec08:30
draikI'm  looking in that directory and find nothing with DHCP08:32
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draikrcarr, anything else that I should look at?08:33
rcarrmm, nothing is springing to mind08:34
draikI was on my winxp partition using photoshop and I didn't have an IP in winxp. I just said "F it" and deal with it when the next blue moon comes around08:35
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rcarrMm08:36
draikThe weird thing is that I won't get an IP address from the router if I set the Network Settings in Kubuntu to DHCP08:36
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rcarrI don't know, it really sounds like a rogue dhcp server, but that doesn't seem to be a possibility08:40
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draikreset the router to default settings?08:41
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draikerrr... default to factory, I mean08:41
Zairejust a quick question...where is the grub bootloader I want to edit it so I can have it boot straight to cli08:41
draikZaire, /boot/grub/menu.lst08:41
Zairea router should have a reset button on it08:42
Zairevery obscure and tiny08:42
Zaireand thnks lol08:42
rcarrand you have to hold it down for a long time08:42
draikIt does, but I can also do it from my desktop.08:42
rcarrto reset to factory settings normally08:42
Zaireyea08:42
rcarrzaire: having it boot to a shell08:42
Zaireyes08:42
draikI am my own NetAdmin08:42
Zairelike plain run level 308:42
rcarrI guess that works, but make sure you set a root password, as kubuntu doesn't have one by default08:43
draikok, on my laptop, I just set it to DHCP and I have no IP address from the router08:43
rcarrand if you have grub do that, it will just log you in as root08:43
draikto set a root password, type                 sudo passwd root08:43
Zaireunless its run level 3 thats a standard08:43
draikfrom there just enter the password you want for root and you're all set08:43
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Zaireand yea I know about root its already set08:44
draikcool08:44
draikany ideas about obtaining an IP?08:44
ZaireI run a web server08:44
rcarrAh, ok08:44
draiknice08:44
draikI'm hoping to run a web server once I get a better understanding of Kubuntu as a web server and such08:45
Zairesome of its very easy the pain is mysql and php08:45
draikwhat is the equivilance to winxp's  "ipconfig /renew" in Kubuntu?08:45
Zairesudo ifconfig08:45
Zairemy website is http://foxfire.hopto.org08:46
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draiksweet mods Zaire08:48
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Zairethanks lol my custom I plan to do more just need more funds at the moment08:48
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draikYou're welcome08:51
draikThis is such a bummer that I can't figure this out08:51
draikDHCP won't assign me an IP08:51
draikwhat gives?08:51
T3hWiz0rddraik: kick it in the nuts.08:51
Zairehmm08:51
Zairelol08:51
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draikI wish T3hWiz0rd08:51
T3hWiz0rdexcuse me, im on vicodin for injuries right now08:51
T3hWiz0rdand that was the most impulsively stupid thing i've done in over two hours08:51
Zaireok the boot loader for kubuntu is much more complex then the redhat9 boot loader08:51
Zairehow do I change this08:51
T3hWiz0rdZaire: complex = 1337, redhat = sux08:51
Zaire....yea to an extent it has a few plus sides08:51
Zairenot many but a few08:51
rcarrWell TehWizord08:51
T3hWiz0rdZaire: don't get me wrong though, I was redhat myslef once. Redhat 8 was my first linux distro.08:51
rcarrEh, nevermind08:52
Zairemandrake 9.2 was my first lol08:52
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rcarrno picking on someone high on vicodin08:52
rcarrI think redhat 8 was my first as well08:52
rcarrI was like 808:52
rcarror 7, one of the two08:52
T3hWiz0rdZaire: was redhat to fedora 1 & 2, stopped my linux usage for a while out of frustration... came back to Fedora core 3, got mad again, went back to windows, came back to Kubuntu 6.0, then suse 10.0, 10.1 back to kubuntu now.08:52
Zaireyea fedora sux08:52
T3hWiz0rdrcarr: im not high by choice i was hit by a semi08:52
Zairetheir enterprise editions aren't much better08:53
T3hWiz0rdZaire: fedora core doens't suck so much as its in a perminent beta stage.08:53
T3hWiz0rdnow suse 10.1... talk about driving your product into a pit of death.08:53
Zairelol yea08:53
ZaireI have that one to08:53
gary_anyone in the mood to help a noob?08:53
Zairedepens08:53
T3hWiz0rdright now i run 10.0 on my server, and will always be a loyal lover to it. I hate 10,1, and replaced my desktop of it with Kubuntu 6.06.108:53
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Jucatook guys let's try to stay on topic, specially when someone needs help08:54
rcarrOw TehWizord, I wasn't implying you were though08:54
Jucatogary_: ask away. if someone knows the answer, they'll respond08:54
T3hWiz0rdJucato: we're talking about linux isn't that *on topic*?08:54
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: not directly. this is the Kubuntu support channel.08:54
gary_I got kununtu edgy eft runing every thing was fin, then when i moved my computer, opera and firefox won't connect anymore08:55
Jucatoofftopic chat might be ok from time to time. just make sure that you don't neglect some support questions08:55
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Zairesounds like a lan issue or cat5 issue08:55
T3hWiz0rdJucato: are you sure that you're dns is set up properly?08:55
T3hWiz0rdJucato: ping your local IP addresses, then ping 4.2.2.1, then ping google.com08:55
T3hWiz0rdif one of those fails it narrows the problem down08:55
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dudehello guys08:56
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gary_how do i do that?08:56
T3hWiz0rdson of agun08:56
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T3hWiz0rdgary_: open up a terminal window and type ifconfig08:56
T3hWiz0rdsee what your local address is and ping your default gateway08:56
T3hWiz0rdif that works, next step is to ping an outside IP address... so type ping 4.2.2.108:57
T3hWiz0rdif that works, try a DNS address... ping google.com08:57
Zaireummm if I do an apt-get remove --purge on kubuntu-desktop should that remove the gui all together cause I most likely won't need it08:57
T3hWiz0rdif that fails, we know your DNS servers are wrong.08:57
T3hWiz0rdZaire: or it will eat your liver08:57
T3hWiz0rdeither way, fun times.08:57
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draikIt's better if you type     ping -c 4 4.2.2.108:57
draikit will go on forever without stating -c #08:57
T3hWiz0rddraik: yeah sorry forgot he may not be able to break it.08:57
Zairewell cause for me my server only needs to be commandline gui just takes up space and ram08:58
T3hWiz0rddraik: used to running pings on sucky wind0wz boxes where its quit ethe opposite lol08:58
draikoh yea08:58
T3hWiz0rdZaire: i don't see any problem with it at all... just be careful.08:58
draikI learned that in a funny way08:58
draik..........08:58
draik..............08:58
T3hWiz0rddraik: lol08:58
draik.............08:58
gary_it seems ok, btw, konquerer works fine08:58
draikHey! Where's my list of sent/received???08:58
draiklol08:58
T3hWiz0rdhaha...08:58
Zairewell i'll be back gonna swap back over to my main machine08:59
T3hWiz0rdgary_: then perhaps firefox and the operah directories just have invalid configs?08:59
T3hWiz0rdgary_: open a termianl window and type ping -c google.com08:59
draikping -c 4 google.com08:59
draikyou need the number of pings09:00
draikor "count" as they are called09:00
T3hWiz0rddraik: gerrr vicodin go easy on me lol09:00
T3hWiz0rdgary_: ping -c 4 google.com09:00
gary_ping: bad number of packets to transmit09:00
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T3hWiz0rdgary_: yeah put it as ping -c 4 google.com09:00
draiklol, will do09:00
draikgary                ping -c 4 google.com09:01
gary_worked09:01
T3hWiz0rdt3hwiz0rd-server: good to see YOU'RE STILL ALIVE! you bucket lol09:01
T3hWiz0rdgary_: okay, so your DNS is set up right then.09:01
gary_cool09:01
T3hWiz0rdgary_: when this computer moved did you also change the port it was connected in on your router? (if any)09:01
gary_no, it's directly connected to a dsl modem09:02
draikin the off chance, check the installs09:02
T3hWiz0rddraik: if its DSL is ip also changes often09:02
T3hWiz0rddraik: perhaps have him dump the local user files for fox and opera?09:02
gary_static ip09:02
draikI mean the install of the apps he's using09:02
T3hWiz0rdah okay...09:02
T3hWiz0rdgary_: lets try a reinstall09:02
gary_ok09:02
T3hWiz0rdgary_: in terminal sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox09:02
T3hWiz0rdgary_: let it finish and then sudo apt-get install firefox09:03
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T3hWiz0rdpsb154: well hes able to ping DNS09:03
T3hWiz0rdpsb154: so the modems okay.09:03
fdovinggary_: does konqueror work?09:03
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: yup he said that does09:03
draikHmmm... is it weird that my desktop has a "Hibernate" option when I choose to sign off?09:03
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: i am thinking it may be the local user files for fox?09:03
T3hWiz0rddraik: nah normal kubuntu09:03
draikok09:03
fdovinggary_: did you configure firefox to use a proxy server?09:03
draikjust making sure09:03
T3hWiz0rddraik: just realize if it goes into hibernate it'll empty the fridge first ;-) lol09:04
draikLOL09:04
draikJucato, you're still around?09:04
gary_konqerer works, no proxy09:04
Jucatoyep09:04
draikFeeling better?09:05
T3hWiz0rdgary_: you can always try reinstalling maybe...09:05
Jucatodraik: just a bit09:05
draikgood09:05
gary_reinstalled fox, brb09:05
T3hWiz0rdgary_: not common on linux but it happens09:05
T3hWiz0rdmy room is moving09:05
Jucatodraik: got your problem solved?09:05
draikJucato, wanna fly over and help me?09:05
draikno, not fixed yet09:05
T3hWiz0rdJucato: yeah right like he could manage that ;-)09:05
T3hWiz0rdJucato: draik is his own problem :-P09:05
Jucatodraik: lol :)09:05
Jucato@_@09:05
fdovinggary_: no proxy in firefox?09:05
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T3hWiz0rddraik: <33 much love :-P09:06
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Zaireback09:06
T3hWiz0rdZaire: uninstall go smoothly?09:06
gary_i mean to say i didn't set any proxy up, it just worked09:06
draikT3hWiz0rd, You don't even know the half of that.09:06
T3hWiz0rddraik: hahaha09:06
fdovinggary_: check proxy settings for firefox please.09:06
draikI go by 3 names09:06
Zairehaven't done it yet just switched to my main machine09:06
draikmy gf knows my real name09:06
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T3hWiz0rddraik: ohh believe me i do i am a category five moron. wherever i walk a desaster shortly folloiws.09:06
draikanother girl knows me by a 2nd name and a 3rd girl knows me by a 3rd name09:07
draikI must be a level 10 moron, I tend to attract Murphy09:07
fdoving!offtopic09:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:07
Jucatoooh fdoving... btw, your name always gives a picture of a dove in my head...09:07
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Jucato(told you guys :P)09:07
draikJucato, It's good to know it's not only me :-p09:08
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T3hWiz0rdJucato: such an overparanoia about that stuff.09:08
fdovingJucato :)09:08
gary_it just says direct connect to internet09:08
draikGreat, now I am not connecting to my eth0 device (USB Ethernet)09:08
fdovinggary_: ok, that's good.09:08
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: not really. there are some cases where valid, ontopic questions get ignored simply because of some offtopic conversation going on. not to mention some people tend to get a bit scared to ask if they see an ongoing conversation09:09
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draikNetwork Settings doesn't even see eth009:09
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seishinbyouQuestion: Is it "legal" to use the MS Fonts (Japanese) in Ubuntu, or should I just keep quite about it?09:10
draikHow do I get Kubuntu to see eth009:10
draik?09:10
Zairerestarting my server and hoping it doesn't crash09:10
gary_this happend when i first installed dapper, it seems that i chaneged something in about:config?09:10
T3hWiz0rdZaire: wait i missed what you said t me i was seeing green dots in my head09:10
T3hWiz0rdZaire: did the unijnstall of kubuntu-desktop work all okay?09:10
Zairerestarting my server and hoping it doesn't crash09:10
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Zairewill find out soon09:10
T3hWiz0rdZaire: alright lemme know.09:11
Jucatoseishinbyou: I think it's legal. but that's just afaik09:11
T3hWiz0rdZaire: i still have a hard time wanting to use kubuntu as my server though, let me know how that all turns out. Till then, i'll stick as suse09:11
fdovinggary_: you can try to move ~/.mozilla out of the way, and start with default settings. In a konsole (kmenu -> system > konsole) run 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak'09:11
Zaireworks pretty good so far09:11
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: that was my original idea.09:12
draikWhat's faster? PCMCIA Ethernet card or USB Ethernet adapter?09:12
T3hWiz0rddraik: im going to say usb2 would be faster.09:12
seishinbyouT3hWiz0rd> The company where I work is currently using an Ubuntu box as the web server for the company site.  It works all right, I guess09:12
T3hWiz0rdbut im probably wrong...09:12
T3hWiz0rdseishinbyou: i have a thing about loving YaST for server management... so i have a hard time wanting to give it up.09:12
draikhmmm09:12
=== Jucato wonders why no one is answering draik... :)
T3hWiz0rdJucato: i did answer.09:13
draikJucato, I got 1 answer09:13
Zairewell Im logged back in via ssh so I take it Im safe09:13
draikLOL09:13
T3hWiz0rd00:12 < draik> What's faster? PCMCIA Ethernet card or USB Ethernet adapter?09:13
T3hWiz0rd00:12 < T3hWiz0rd> draik: im going to say usb2 would be faster.09:13
rcarrI'm not sure draik, try looking up both of the buses on wikipedia09:13
rcarrand check the speeds09:13
fdovingdraik: usb2. pcmcia got a theoretically maximum of 160Mbps afaik.09:13
Zairewell my website is still runing09:13
Jucatoheheh09:13
T3hWiz0rdZaire: link me09:13
Zairehttp://foxfire.hopto.org09:14
seishinbyouT3hWiz0rd> Yes, I know what you mean.  This Ubuntu server is only for fun I believe until the bofh gets back from holidays and sets it up his own way09:14
T3hWiz0rdinteresting.09:14
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Zaireall but a few of the images on the main and gallery page I made myself...I painstakingly did the animated one tonight09:16
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rcarrI really like kubuntu for the desktop, but Idon't think I would use it for a server09:16
rcarrerr, *ubuntu09:16
T3hWiz0rdrcarr: well that has officially helped make my mind up on sticking in the suse realm for servers09:17
rcarrI wouldn't use suse for a server either!09:18
T3hWiz0rdwhat really sucks is that i wish the ubuntu community and the novell community could get along so i didn't have to step on sacred ground when dealing with either.09:18
rcarrI think I would use FreeBSD for a server09:18
fdovingI use ubuntu for servers and it rocks:)09:18
draikI don't get it. Why can't I get an IP from DHCP???09:18
seishinbyouI might set one up as a Gaiji server for fun09:18
fignewGaiji?09:18
seishinbyousorry, quick explanation:09:19
fdovingdraik: is the cable connected?09:19
draikYes09:19
seishinbyouIn the Japanese language, some people have characters in their name not in the standard educational character set09:19
draikfdoving, I have "connectivity" but for some reason I have nothing. It won't register my gateway.09:19
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seishinbyouThe SJIS code is sent to this server and the server returns a bitmap of the character09:20
=== Jucato thinks it's his first time to meet a real Japanese Kubuntu user...
fdovingdraik: if you set a static ip, can you ping the dhcp-servers ip?09:20
seishinbyouIt's not *that* exciting09:20
draikfdoving, If I set it up through "manual" I can go online. But if I go through "automatic" I'm screwed for gateway and IP09:20
Jucatofor me it is :P09:21
seishinbyouWe have one guy in our office right now with a non-standard character in his name.   Really messed up the payroll system first month.09:21
fdovingdraik: i'm thinking maybe a dhcp-server problem? is it a router? did you try to restart it?09:21
draikYes, it's a router09:21
draikI will restart in just a sec09:21
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draikOk, well here goes09:24
draikI'm going to go restart my router09:25
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draikfdoving, would you think a simple router restart would work or should I do a complete power cycle of my router and modem?09:25
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rcarrstill the same problem?09:25
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Jucatoproblem never went away I guess :P09:26
fdovingdraik: simple restart should work if it has dhcp-server problems.09:26
draik10-409:26
draikok09:27
draikok09:27
fdovingok?09:27
draikI'm bacik09:27
draik*back09:27
fdovingi'll have to do a reboot to do some partition magic. brb.09:28
draiktime to see if my laptop can go DHCP09:28
rcarrI'm on the edge of my seat09:28
gary_hey guys, I've been trying to get my browsers working, and just realized synapic won't connect either09:28
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draikLOL @ Jucato09:28
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rcarr*is crushed against the edge of his desk*09:29
Jucatoheh :)09:29
rcarrMan, this is an Edgy conversation09:29
rcarrlike an Eft09:29
rcarrhaha09:29
rcarrhahahaha09:29
rcarrharhar...yeah no09:29
draiklol09:29
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draikI think it's the lack of sleep09:29
rcarrIt's 3:33 here...09:29
rcarrAM09:29
draik12:30am here09:30
Jucatolol.. rcarr  is on EST09:30
draikYou're in the EST09:30
draikyup, LOL09:30
rcarrYay east coast!09:30
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draikI'm Pacific09:30
rcarrI thought you were somewhere ELSE with a four hour time difference from EST09:31
rcarrlike the moon09:31
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esasI have made a php code and i want to set in that code a table, and in that table i want to set a php code again , but i don't now how i must do that???09:31
rcarrIndia jucato?09:32
draiknope09:32
rcarrKazakhstan, Pakistan, that area?09:32
draiktry again rcarr09:32
rcarrtoo lazy to check your IP09:32
Jucatolol09:32
Jucato.ph09:32
JucatoPhilippines09:32
rcarrAh09:32
esasi've altready made the table and everything but there's an error that say's there un unexpected "<" it's the < from the table so i cant delete this<09:33
rcarrI thought that was Est + 1409:33
Jucatonah. 12 hours exactly09:33
draikI wish my phone could support more javascripting that it does now. I want to use the online version of IRC while I'm away Halloween and Thxgiving09:33
Jucatojmirc?09:34
draikcross your fingers/toes/etc... I'm setting up the laptop for DHCP again09:35
rcarr!!09:35
rcarrQuick, sacrifice 12 goats and 3 virgin pigs!09:35
draikI just hope I get an IP address and that it recognizes the darn gateway09:35
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rcarr*stains chalk in blood*09:36
draikLOL09:36
rcarr*of Gentoo users*09:36
JucatoO_o09:36
draikWOO-freaking-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:36
rcarrIt worked?09:36
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rcarrIt must have been the gentoo ricers09:36
rcarrerr, users09:36
rcarrblood09:36
draikYes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:36
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Jucatoooh hi jende09:36
jendeJucato: good Morning, my friend! How are ya?09:37
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Jucatojende: feeling a bit better. still not fully well though09:37
jendeJucato: at least you recover09:37
Ademanhow can i find out the currently running wm?09:38
jendeAdeman: wm?09:38
Ademanwindow manager09:38
JucatoAdeman: if you're using default KDE, then it's KWin09:38
rcarrerr, I suppose you could run09:38
jendeAdeman: Help-> About09:38
rcarrps -A09:38
Ademani'm not on KDE, just people in #ubuntu are useless :-p09:38
Jucatojende: that would show the running DE, not the running WM09:38
srednaI have a bug related to fonts: The font installer can't show the oblique fonts, neither can kfontinstaller, nor are they selected for printing :(09:39
rcarrAdeman, on gnome?09:39
draikJucato, time for the desktop09:39
JucatoAdeman: like what rcarr said. ps -A. check for names like kwin, metacity, etc09:39
Ademanrcarr: yes, i'm trying to get beryl up, but i'm pretty sure its not running09:39
Jucatogood luck draik09:39
srednaI don't know if this is specific to kubuntu, or if anyone else have the problem09:39
draikThanks09:39
srednaCan anyone confirm?09:39
rcarrAh,09:39
rcarrHow did you try and start it?09:39
rcarrfor beryl you should have "emerald" and "beryl" showing up in ps -A09:40
rcarremerald is the window decorator, and beryl the manager09:40
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Ademani didnt really, i just started up x (startx) from a tty because for God knows what reason, x doesnt start, and i don't get the login screen by default anymore09:40
jendeJucato: I had just one coffee so far, so I'm not really awake yet...*g*09:40
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rcarrOk Ademan, rather than09:40
rcarr"startx"09:40
rcarrYou are using ubuntu vanilla right? with gnome?09:41
Ademanand of course, from the login screen i'd just choose a beryl session, but i dont even get that...09:41
rcarrstart "gdm" with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start09:41
Ademanheh09:41
rcarrand you gete a login screen09:41
Ademandoesnt do ANYTHING09:41
rcarrah09:41
Ademantried start stop restart09:41
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Ademannone of them even have any output09:41
rcarrps -A | grep gdm09:41
rcarr?09:41
draik_Hello?09:41
Ademani opened up the file, and it looked alright09:41
draik_Hello?09:41
rcarr?olleH09:41
draik_Ugh09:42
Ademanrcarr: no nothing about gdm09:42
Ademanwonder if its gdm thats not starting?09:42
Jucatodraik: what?09:42
draik_draik is a ghost09:42
rcarrTry just running it09:42
rcarri.e. sudo gdm09:42
draik_Jucato, how do I get rid of my ghost?09:42
Ademancommand not found09:42
Ademani think you gotta start it the way you said09:42
Jucatodraik: /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>09:42
rcarrwell, not if it works anythinglg ike kdm09:42
rcarrtype gdm, then hit tab twice for tab completion09:42
rcarrwhat options does it give you?09:42
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draikPERFECT09:43
rcarrI guess the executable just isn't named gdm09:43
draikall is good09:43
fignew/msg NickServ identify crazynas09:43
Jucatoooh09:43
draikfdoving, thatnk you09:43
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fignew;)09:43
Jucatosomeone needs to change his password :P09:43
draikerrr, fdoving, thank you09:43
draikLOL09:43
Ademanrcarr: gave me gdm-signal09:43
rcarrMm, I don't think that's it09:43
rcarrbecause I have that09:43
rcarrand I don't have gdm installed09:43
draikkinda like that one post on bash.org... "your password comes up as ******* to me!"09:43
rcarrI love that post draik09:44
Jucatoheh09:44
rcarralso, bash keeps on rejecting my quotes09:44
draikThat's an oldie but a goodie09:44
rcarrI just submitted: "robbjedi: Reiser is going to jail! robbjedi: Good thing ReiserFS supports tail packing"09:44
rcarrI really expected that to get in, but alas09:44
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rcarrAdeman: Did you recently dist-upgrade or something?09:44
rcarri.e. are you sure you have GDM installed09:45
draikI submitted, "winxp reminds me of my gf. They have an issue and they speak a COMPLETELY different language when I try to find out what the issue is."09:45
Ademanrcarr: yeah, i did hehe09:45
rcarrErr, Jucato, had you sent a PM to me? I just accidently closed an open window with you and I am not sure if I accidently opened it, or I recieved it09:45
rcarrand I am not keeping logs09:45
Jucatorcarr: why would I? :P09:45
rcarrNo clue?09:45
Ademanwow09:45
Ademanrcarr09:45
rcarrYeah?09:46
Ademanyou rule09:46
Jucatorcarr: no I didn't09:46
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rcarrGDM wasn't installed? hehe09:46
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Ademanhaha yeah...09:46
rcarrI had that problem when I dist-upgraded to edgy a while ago09:46
Ademanwhich begs the question why does /etc/init.d/gdm EXIST ?!09:46
rcarrit got rid of KDM and xserver-xorg09:46
rcarrit's probably listed as a configuration file09:46
rcarrit's just a shell script09:46
Ademanyeah09:46
Ademanwell either way09:46
rcarrso it wont be removed unless you apt-get remove --purge09:46
Ademani'm gonna install09:46
rcarrGlad it works for you09:46
Ademanand restart09:46
Ademanand see you all on the other side :-)09:47
Ademanthanks a lot rcarr09:47
draikSee You On The Other Side is a great album09:47
=== draik is listening to "Peephole" by System of A Down on System of a Down [amaroK]
rcarrBye09:47
draikbye rcarr09:47
rcarrErr, I am not leaving09:47
rcarrI was saying bye to Ademan09:47
draikwhoops09:47
draikLOL09:48
draiksorry rcarr09:48
draikummm... welcome back?09:48
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draikLOL09:48
rcarrI think Jucato is out to get me09:48
Jucato:)09:48
draikI know a guy that knows a guy that pushes guys09:48
Jucatojust waiting for jende to be fully awake09:48
draikThe final score ~~~~~~~~~09:48
draikJucato 2   rcarr 009:49
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rcarr?09:49
rcarrerr09:49
Ademanalright, reinstalled, lets see how it goes, later all09:49
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rcarr /home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER?09:49
draikBye Ademan09:49
gary_i have a somewhat dumb ???, if i install edgy eft beta will it automaticlly update to rc109:49
rcarr(poor joke in regards to ~~~~~~~~~~)09:49
rcarrI think I just made a shell alias pun09:49
draikso I see09:49
Jucatogary_: yes09:50
Jucatoand to final release too09:50
Jucatoyou just have to perform the updates09:50
gary_thanks09:50
draikanyone here having issues with the newest release of amaroK?09:50
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rcarrNo09:50
JucatoI really really really really really wish I was on Linux now... I miss using Alt+LMB to move windows...09:50
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rcarrI was having issues with a previous ititeration of amarok in edgy09:50
draikThe following packages have been kept back:09:51
draik  amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine09:51
rcarrin that the browser lagged like heck09:51
rcarrIf you want them to update, just install the packages manually09:51
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draikmanually?09:51
rcarri.e. run sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine09:51
draikyou mean    apt-get install [package] 09:51
rcarrYeah09:51
draikyeah, that fails09:51
rcarrwith what?09:52
Jucatodraik: KDE 3.5.5?09:52
jendeJucato: whooooaaaa...that coffee is a beauty...3spoons of black gold for one cup, that really wakes me up09:53
rcarrerr, as in error09:53
draikJucato, yes. KDE 3.5.509:53
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Jucatolol09:53
draikE: Broken packages09:53
Jucatodraik: hm... did you check that you still have the appropriate Amarok repos enabled? (not to mention dapper-backports probably)09:53
Ademanit worked!09:53
seishinbyouCoffee is just too weak, unless you much on chocolate covered coffee beans and wash it down with Jolt or something09:53
draikI don't have the backports enabled09:53
Ademannow the question is how can i select a beryl session from that? lol09:53
Jucatodraik: but you have the amarok 1.4.3 repos?09:53
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=== Jucato personally prefers tea over coffee
draikI'm on amaroK 1.3.909:53
draikthe amaroK repo?09:53
draikyes I do09:53
Jucatoer..09:54
Jucatodraik: what are you trying to do again?09:54
draikupdate amaroK09:54
Jucatoto which version?09:54
draikwhat ever the new version is.09:54
draikit's in my upgradable section, just not doable09:54
draikheld back09:54
Jucato"Important:  you need to enable dapper-backports to be able to install Amarok 1.4.3. This includes unsupported updates for other popular packages including KTorrent and K3b."09:54
draikok09:55
draikone sec09:55
draikstill held back09:56
Jucatoof course I presume you "sudo apt-get update" first right?09:57
draikyup09:57
draikalways09:57
Jucatohm...09:57
Jucatopastebin your sources.list?09:57
draikapt-get update && apt-get upgrade09:57
draikok, one sec09:57
draik!paste09:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:57
Jucatoand probably the error message?09:57
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draikJucato, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27446/09:59
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draikok, so now it will install amaroK, but it will remove amarok-arts10:00
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Jucatodraik the error message that you get when you upgrade?10:00
Jucatoer..10:01
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Jucatonow it's trying to install?10:01
zorglu_!fash10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
zorglu_!flash10:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:01
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draikJucato, it installed it10:01
Jucatook10:01
draikTime to restart amaroK10:01
Jucato:)10:02
draikupdating right now10:02
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draiksweet, I now have 1.4.310:04
draikOk, well that was enough troubleshooting10:04
draiktime for sleep10:05
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zorglu_$ sudo apt-get install realplayer -> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable. <- on a dapper. any suggestion ?10:09
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jende!realplayer10:12
visik7I've a problem with kdm on edgy10:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:12
visik7anyone ?10:12
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visik7when kdm start at boot I can't write the password10:12
jendevisik7: like what?10:12
zorglu_jende: good :) but this wont repear the broken pacakge :)10:12
visik7but if I do a alt+ctrl+F1 and than back to F710:13
visik7keyboard start to work10:13
jendezorglu_: you have multiverse universe and backports enables?10:14
jendezorglu_: you have multiverse universe and backports enabled?10:14
zorglu_yeah i have :)10:14
jendevisik7: it works just fine here10:14
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visik7I know that it works on most platform10:14
visik7I need a way to debug it10:15
zorglu_jende: what i do is "sudo apt-get install realplayer", the package IS found from multiverse. but the package requires another package called 'xlibs' and this one is not found10:15
jendezorglu_: I read that; I'm just trying to figure out why10:15
jendevisik7: on which platform are you10:15
visik7x8610:15
visik7I mean10:16
visik7I know that it works on most machine10:17
visik7s10:17
jendevisik7: okay, so you're not a 64 box, hmmm...I'm on a x86 to and hadn't had any dramas like you have...weird10:17
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visik7maybe is a problem due to nvidia drivers/framebuffer/usplash10:18
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marianhello, i need help with my dpkg, it cannot find dpkg-architecture command ..10:19
marianwhat can i do?10:19
zorglu_jende: discussed a bit with packagers and this is likely a broken package10:20
mariani've read its a part of the ccp .. but i've installed the full package but nothing happens10:22
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zorglu_jende: for future reference, the one from dapper-commercial, called realplay, is installable10:22
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Jucatomarian: I think it's in the dpkg-dev package10:24
marianok I try .. ;)10:24
sacha_Hello :). When I enable DRI in xorg.conf, the desktop wallpaper, icons and menu stop functioning. No icons present on desktop, default wallpaper. Everything else including taskbar and KDE menu still work. Video card: Radeon 9600. KDE Version: 3.5.3. Xorg Version:7.1.1 Any ideas?10:25
jendezorglu_: thanks mate10:25
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jendezorglu_: had to feed quickly the cats...as they were starving10:25
marianit works, thank ya10:26
Jucatomarian: no problem. (actually just searched for that in Google using "dpkg-architecture package")10:27
timothy_anyone get steam to run with the latest version of wine?10:28
T3hWiz0rdtimothy_: ask about htat in #cedega.10:28
T3hWiz0rdtimothy_: best place for it.10:28
visik7sacha_: how can you have xorg 7.1.1 and kde 3.5.3 there isn't any single kubuntu distro synced to this config10:28
T3hWiz0rdtimothy_: they can answer all your wine/winex/cedega questions.10:28
sacha_i upgraded10:28
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T3hWiz0rdsacha_: me too, but all i got was this stupid T-shirt.10:29
Jucato!xserver-xorg edgy10:29
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB10:30
Jucatovisik7: edgy will ^^^10:30
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timothy_no answer in #cedega10:30
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Jucatovisik7: Edgy will have X.org 7.1 and KDE 3.5.510:31
visik7infact10:31
sacha_so no one knows my problem? :(10:31
jendeJucato: wondering what kind of mix that is Xorg7.1.1 and KDE 3.5.3...10:31
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Jucato:)10:32
jendesacha_: not really10:32
T3hWiz0rdjende: its like replacing the back tires on a ghetto car lol10:32
jendeT3hWiz0rd: lol10:32
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chxso no KDE4 yet?10:32
sacha_no :(10:32
Jucatochx: no10:32
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chxwell, the name Krash suggests some instability :)10:32
T3hWiz0rdperhaps.10:33
sacha_i was going to get 3.5.5 but by the time i realised i was compiling 3.5.3, it was a bit late10:33
Jucatochx: it is. it's very alpha, and meant for developers only10:33
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T3hWiz0rdis kde4 supposed to be plasma?10:33
sacha_plasma?10:34
T3hWiz0rd!plasma10:34
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: Plasma is a KDE 4 project10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
Jucatoit's not a code name10:34
zorglu_those cute name are cute but very unexplicit :)10:34
T3hWiz0rdJucato: so they are sitll just gonna do a minor overhaul i guess?10:34
Jucatohttp://plasma.kde.org/10:34
sacha_any screenshots of KDE4 around? i couldn't find any but i really do hope that those KDE4 mockups in kde-look.org end up in there10:34
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: no. a very major overhaul10:34
T3hWiz0rdor is kde being redone from the ground up?10:34
sacha_hah, doubt it10:35
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: well not exactly from the ground up. but very major changes10:35
Jucatofor one, it uses the new Qt410:35
sacha_KDE always has major changes through versions10:35
Jucatosacha_: but not like this10:35
T3hWiz0rdi just want it to have a more simplified configuration with maybe minus soo so many options10:35
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T3hWiz0rdit also needs to take on the vista look lol10:36
Jucatoer...10:36
sacha_:S10:36
MistaEDtheir toolkit is now based on Qt4 though, which packs 'arthur' for vector graphics, much like cairo for gtk10:36
JucatoI won't comment on that10:36
T3hWiz0rdi don't mean look like it10:36
T3hWiz0rdbut become something better10:36
T3hWiz0rdcompete with it10:36
sacha_there is already glass out that looks just like vista, complete with the vista wallpaper10:36
MistaEDand afaik, they want to incorporate glucose for arthur to perform opengl rendering10:36
micraHi, Does anyone knows how to choose between 2 soundcards? It seems like it is randomly choosen on startup.10:36
sacha_i think what you want is beryl/emerald?10:36
Jucatowell, there's absolutely no reason for KDE to "compete" with Vista. it's a by product, not a goal10:36
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sacha_checkout this: http://web.archive.org/web/19981205010558/http://www.kde.org/kscreenshots.html10:37
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: okay...10:37
T3hWiz0rdjust some old kde snaps10:37
chxsacha_: well, that looks 'unixy' now KDE looks more 'human'10:38
Jucatohehe10:38
sacha_yeah KDE changes a lot version to version10:38
chxsacha_: but even more is always appreciated :)10:38
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T3hWiz0rdit used to look very windows 9x10:38
JucatoThere are basicallly no circulated shots of KDE4 yet simply because all the work so far has been about the underlying code10:38
chxthat's a wise course to take10:38
draikI just had some fun telling my dad why Kubuntu is better than winxp10:38
draikThat was fun!10:38
Jucatothere have been some interface changes, but they still look a bit like KDE 310:38
Jucatolol10:39
T3hWiz0rdi know kde has grown a lot. it used to look very windows 9x ish and became its own life10:39
chx'dad, have you heard of viruses? malware? ok, pop this cd in and forget them.'10:39
chxhow come MS has not yet been class action lawsuited for that insecure piece of shit?10:39
sacha_VirusesIntrudersSpywareTrojansAdware10:40
draikchx, I told my dad about my sister's winxp computer... "See, she has it password protected. Now, once I put in this CD, I can see and change those files as I see fit"10:40
Jucatolol10:40
draikAfter I showed him, "If you know so much about computers, then why don't you get a job with using this CD thingy?"10:40
Jucatonot a very good way to convince him, but convincing nonetheless10:40
chx*sigh*10:41
draikI wish my sis was awake to see this10:41
chxI hate when people think that just because I make a good living out of writing web applications10:41
draikSo dear sis, you think it's safe when you're gone?10:41
chxI can support their broken Windows installs :(10:41
sacha_well draik, you could stick any OS in and change her files :P10:41
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sacha_she could enable that disk encryption thing in windows though10:42
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spockyhello10:42
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T3hWiz0rdyou can see everything on a linux box too10:42
visik7anyone with an nvidia with 1400x1050 monitor and edgy ?10:42
T3hWiz0rdwith just a floppy disk and chown access10:42
T3hWiz0rdits not that much better really.10:42
draikKnoppix 5.x allows me to write to NTFS and change it accordingly10:42
sacha_the kernel lets you10:42
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zorglu_!ntfs10:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse10:42
zorglu_!ntfs-3g10:42
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171010:42
Jucatoonly one way your sister can block you out. password protect the BIOS and set it not to boot from a CD drive10:42
sacha_write to ntfs is sort of borked.. atleast in 2.6.18 kernel.. you cant make file larger10:43
T3hWiz0rdJucato: same goes for linux thoguh eh?10:43
fdovingor install encfs.:)10:43
zorglu_draik: seen the ntfs-3g link ? it is for you :)10:43
T3hWiz0rdit also can be accessed... very easily, the same as windows.10:43
Jucatoyeah10:43
draikmy sis is as good as a door knob when it comes to computers10:43
Jucatothat's what the cyber cafe near here did. so I couldn't use my Live CD's and had to use their fscking Windows :P10:43
T3hWiz0rddraik: so that little factiod really doesn't prove linux security over windows.10:43
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spockyI have Ubuntu edgy eft beta on my computer installed. Now, I'm thinking about apting the kubuntu-desktop package on my machine. But my thing is, I want to keep GDM as my desktop manager. So if I install kubuntu-desktop, will GDM stay my login manager, or will it be switched to KDM automaticly?10:44
draikshe works at a law office and her boss tells her to call me for every little stupid issue. I told him, $100 for the first hour, $60 for the remaining10:44
T3hWiz0rddraik: if iwant to i can pop my USB thumb drive containing Damn Small Linux onto your computer, chown your / directory, and see your content to my pleasing as well.10:44
draikT3hWiz0rd, point being that I can manipulate whatever she is holding sacred in that ugly comcrap box of hers10:45
fdovingT3hWiz0rd: you don't even have to chown, as you boot with the auth info on DSL, and you're root. :)10:45
zorglu_nothing can counter 'physical access' to the box10:45
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: yeah, true.. i was thinknig about recovery console too lol10:45
T3hWiz0rddraik: the same is on linux too though10:45
T3hWiz0rddraik: you're no safer than she is unless you encrypted your files.10:45
sacha_yep10:45
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draikT3hWiz0rd, Linux owns all. PERIOD10:46
T3hWiz0rddraik: not in the way you're saying it.10:46
sacha_and windows has encrypt disk option too (atleast in vista)10:46
T3hWiz0rdyour little security boist is highly innacruate...10:46
draikI always liked Spector Pro 5.x10:46
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sacha_it's not really a positive point for linux10:46
draikNice little untracable app in win10:46
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: you can also encrypt content on current-day NTFS, and it works alright.10:46
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sacha_yeah, wasnt sure if it was in XP or not10:46
T3hWiz0rdits there, just not very descriptively lol10:47
zorglu_of course you have to trust a company which is known to produce vulnerable system :)10:47
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T3hWiz0rdzorglu_: even microsoft can't screw up encrpytion.10:47
seishinbyouAll right, the MS fonts make the whole environment much more readable now10:47
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zorglu_T3hWiz0rd: dont know where you got that. but every can screw up encryption and ms has done it in the past10:47
T3hWiz0rdanyone know what the default apple fonts are called?10:48
zorglu_in fact i would say that most screw up encryption :)10:48
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zorglu_i broked like 3 vpn on linux, aesloop fs and other internet routing protocol10:48
zorglu_and believe their security was not high :)10:49
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seishinbyou10:49
seishinbyouThat looks better10:49
zorglu_!ch10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
zorglu_ah ok :)10:49
zorglu_seishinbyou: btw what is the language codename for chinese ?10:50
draik!jp10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
Jucatolol10:50
T3hWiz0rdno one knows the os x fonts?10:50
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: lucida grande10:50
draikJucato, what's so lol?10:50
draiktrying to find out the language codename?10:50
Jucatoyour attempts at !ch and !jp10:50
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: thats their default?10:51
draik!japanese10:51
Jucatothere are no registered channels for .ch and .jp10:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about japanese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:51
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: under linux, luxi and regular lucida is very similar10:51
draikI don't think I spelled it correctly10:51
MistaED*are10:51
draik!japan10:52
seishinbyou!zh10:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about japan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk10:52
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: is tghere a way to use the font on my mac on the linux box? cos i have a mac10:52
seishinbyouha!10:52
Jucatolol10:52
draikcheater10:52
zorglu_thanks :)10:52
dadAnybody fancy helping old dog with new tricks?....i.e....Not sure how my username is ok on here but not on ubunto channel??10:52
Jucato!botabuse10:52
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops10:52
sacha_dad? lol draik's dad?10:52
seishinbyouOh, but sometimes it is fun to pretend you are a bot10:52
draikwell dad, use            /nick <new nick name>10:52
draiksacha_ I knew that was coming... although I thought from Jucato10:52
zorglu_this message should be changed. the 'angry ops' sounds like a threat10:52
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: afaik what i did when i had OSX installed on this pc, i just used the linux HFS driver and searched for where it stores fonts, and just simply copy-pasted it into a linux font directory10:52
Jucatodraik:  my mind is not at its best10:52
draikJucato, but you still wouldn't miss it if you could :-p10:53
dadSorry for being a "plank"...The kubunto channel just takes my username from the system and uses that but ubunto aint having it10:53
Jucatodraik: if I could, I would have10:53
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: it might need a system restart though, also make sure fonts render at sub-pixel with minor/no hinting to mimmick OSX10:53
Jucatodad: no problem with your nick10:53
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MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: *system restart i mean xorg restart10:53
draikJucato, I know you would. That's why I laughed when I saw the comment that sacha_ left and thought it was you (until I read the nick)10:54
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T3hWiz0rdMistaED: well i found a directory to them and used the kde font installer10:54
T3hWiz0rdbut it doesn't seem to be workin lol10:54
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: try as admin so it's system-wide in kcontrol10:55
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: i don't see lucidus in the menu though10:55
timothy_hey10:55
MistaEDit's lucida10:55
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: yeah, don't see it there10:55
timothy_anyone know why steam wont work with wine?10:55
draikprobably not a good mix anyway10:56
sacha_havent tried steam in there yet, but most things need reconfiguring of wine config10:56
sacha_and inserting some native DLLs in there10:56
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: odd10:56
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: i don'[t see it anywhere lol10:56
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draikWell, it's time for me to crash like winME. Talk to you all later, if you're all still around.10:57
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: if you want something easier, i'm pretty sure lucida or luxi could be installed from a deb10:57
timothy_sacha_: how can i fix this?10:57
dadJucato...sorry.Are you telling me the username is not a prob.Never used irc before other than quick shot in my dappers kubunto.Thought i`d have another go here on edgy10:57
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: i found the fonts online10:57
seishinbyouWindows CE+ME+NT, a portable, reliably crashing OS10:57
T3hWiz0rdthey showq up in the list for kde font installer.10:57
sacha_i'd suggest checking out google for other people who try wine+steam10:57
seishinbyouCement for short10:57
MistaEDlucida seems to be identical to lucida grande for me10:57
seishinbyouAnyways, work is finished for me.  Time for dinner10:58
Jucatodad: yeah no problem with it10:58
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: check the repositories, it could be in there already10:58
seishinbyou10:58
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T3hWiz0rdMistaED: what should i search for?11:00
MistaEDsun-java5-fonts contains lucida, just checked11:00
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: once it installs should I restart X?11:00
MistaEDand xfonts-scalable has luxi11:00
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: if it doesn't work, yes you should11:00
T3hWiz0rdUse of uninitialized value in print at /var/lib/defoma/scripts/gs.defoma line 108.11:00
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MistaEDttf-xfree86-nonfree * contains luxi, sorry11:00
dadThis is mad then cause if i switch from Kubunto channel to ubunto channel it dont work the same.I`ll go do some reading and try see what im doing wrong.Actually using "edgy gnome" and no acceess to "KDE" help....DUH!!Tried that "bitchx" but that was even harder11:00
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: i installed the java one and still don't see it in the list11:00
T3hWiz0rdi see a bunch called like "ae_alarabiya"11:01
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: restart xorg11:02
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T3hWiz0rdalright11:02
T3hWiz0rdMistaED: restarted11:02
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T3hWiz0rdokay11:03
T3hWiz0rdi see them lol11:03
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T3hWiz0rdfor general font does os x use Lucida Bright at regular?11:03
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MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: nice, if you want mac-like font rendering do a: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and then make sure to pick sub-pixel font rendering when it comes to that part11:04
T3hWiz0rdwell first i want to choose all the fonts to look like it lol11:04
T3hWiz0rdlucida bright for regular right?11:04
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: no idea, if it looks good then choose it ;) just make sure you have sub-pixel font rendering with no hinting11:05
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T3hWiz0rdlucida grande for okay11:06
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T3hWiz0rdMistaED: running it now11:07
T3hWiz0rdhow should fonts be tuned to screen?11:07
T3hWiz0rdnative? autohinder?11:07
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: not sure what that does, pick whatever is selected by default11:07
T3hWiz0rdsubpixel rendering?11:07
Sandman_bonjour11:08
T3hWiz0rdautomatic, always, never?11:08
MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: yes turn that on, always/automatic whatever11:08
T3hWiz0rdenable bitmap fonts be default?11:08
MistaEDin kcontrol you can tweak it11:08
MistaEDi don't think you do, no11:08
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T3hWiz0rdokay, it says done11:09
T3hWiz0rdrestart X11:09
MistaEDi like greyscale subpixel with no hinting to get the mac font look11:09
MistaEDwhen you edit it in kcontrol11:09
T3hWiz0rdwhere in kcontro? the fonts section?11:10
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MistaEDT3hWiz0rd: yeah, think so11:10
MistaEDbbl11:10
T3hWiz0rdim in the anti-aliasing part of it and i don't see grayscale?11:10
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jendedude_: howdy11:17
dude_jende: hello11:17
Jucatoheh... old friends meet once more :)11:19
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jendeJucato: hehe11:21
jendedude_: is your system running well?even without any betas installed?11:21
dude_jende: ya, im happy with my system right now....tnx11:22
Jucatogood. keep it that way. :)11:22
jendedude_: did you read already some manpages?11:22
dude_jende: some application issues though11:22
dude_jende: manpages11:22
jendedude_: argggggggghhhhh11:23
Jucatolol11:23
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dude_!manpages11:23
ubotumanpages: Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system. In component main, is standard. Version 2.17-1 (dapper), package size 400 kB, installed size 728 kB11:23
dude_:)11:23
dude_just joing11:23
dude_just joking11:23
jendedude_: haven't I told you to read some manpages to learn a bit bout tools such as apt?11:24
dude_jende: ya i will read the manual, nut 4 the meantime, im completing the transition from windows to linux11:25
dude_jende: ya i will read the manual, but 4 the meantime, im completing the transition from windows to linux11:25
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jendedude_: good, but dont mess your system up11:26
dude_jende: i need to set up may foot pedal11:26
dude_jende: i need to set up may foot pedal11:26
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jendedude_: what?11:27
jendedude_: I've got such things in my car and they don't need to be set up, nor updated or upgra11:27
dadI only use windows for 3 or 4 months before i disvovered Ubu etc.That was 3 months ago and windows has been sacked from 2 out of 3 pc`s in the house and i wont ever use wonky windows now that i had a taste of wobbly ones.Still cany get on ubunto channel though...duh11:28
jendedude_: I've got such things in my car and they don't need to be set up, nor updated or upgrade11:28
Jucatodad: so you're using Ubuntu, but can't get into #ubuntu?11:28
dude_jende: im working in a medical transcription company and i need to setup my foot pedal, but i can't get it working11:29
Jucatodad: did you try /join #ubuntu ?11:29
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kennyhi all11:30
dadYup....but i am using edgy\ gnome and only got konversation from synaptic cause i have it on my dappers kde and quite liked it.mabey something different i should be using?????Thanks for helping.I manage some of the "harder" stuff but get lost on the simple stuff...lol11:31
dude_jende: im working in a medical transcription company and i need to setup my foot pedal, but i can't get it working, can you help me on this11:31
hastesaverdude_, maybe the hardware isn't supported by Linux at all... you should check somewhere11:31
Jucatodad: it doesn't matter what client you're using. although I can't understand why you couldn't get into #ubuntu11:32
dude_hastesaver: im using wine to run the express scribe software, but it can't detect the foot pedal11:32
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hastesaverdude_, first  check if Linux has recognised the foot pedal; only then check if Windows programs running under Wine recognise it :-)11:33
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jendedude_: I guess I cant help you with this11:34
prophitgood morning world11:34
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dude_jende: its ok11:34
prophitanyone here ever use the lfs kernels?11:35
jendedude_: thx11:35
dadI gathered that much m8 but im not doing anything different.They were both already there ready to use but i cant sem to access ubunto as i can this.NO DOUBT something stupid im missing or not doing but i cant see what11:35
kenny_is there11:35
kenny_oops11:35
kenny_:=11:35
hastesaverdad, maybe it's because it's spelt "ubuntu" and not "ubunto"?11:35
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grotheskHas someone a clue if nvidia-glx will be updated by ubuntu?11:37
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Jucato!nvidia-glx edgy11:39
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ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-11 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB11:39
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grotheskThat is an old version and has a security issue. 8776 is the patched one.11:39
dude_jende: i can't find the manual, i already installed it11:39
dadSorry if im making typo`s anywhere but as i said this and the ubuntO channel were already there(so spelled right:-)....i click on "#kubunto" and i get you`se all fine but if i click on "ubunto" then all i see is..[Notice]  -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else..What am i not doing right??11:39
sacha_huh? #ubuntu ?11:39
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jendedude_: where are you looking for the manpages, though?11:39
Jucatodad: it means someone already owns that nick11:39
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Jucatodad: just change your name to something else. like dad0 or dad1 if you want11:40
dude_here11:40
Jucato /nick <nickname>11:40
sacha_ohh when you join server11:40
dude_my box11:40
T3hWiz0rdhmmm my splash screen is different and my login screen different on kubuntu now that i reinstalled kwin-crystal11:40
hastesaverdad, It is "ubuntU" (ends with an U), not ubunto11:40
T3hWiz0rdanyone got any idea how i rechange it back?11:40
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jendedude_: you'll get the manpages on the console...try man apt11:41
dadWHAT...so i can be my system username...ie"dad" on here but will need to change it on the ubuntu channel11:41
sacha_T3hWiz0rd: splash screen settings are in appearance, did anything change there?11:41
T3hWiz0rdyeah a few things11:41
sacha_can just manually change it back?11:41
hastesaverdad, and "nickname already owned by someone else" is not really a problem, until the other person comes and kicks you out11:41
BadRabbit320cpk2  u awake?11:41
T3hWiz0rdthe kubuntu one is gone11:41
Jucatodad: of course. the IRC client uses your computer's user name. but that doesn't automatically mean that you'll be able to use that in IRC11:41
sacha_other people are also using that name :P11:41
Jucatoyour PC and the IRC server are completely independent and separate11:42
hastesaverdad, yes... anyone can be "dad" on their own computers; it wouldn't do well to have hundreds of people on #ubuntu with the same name11:42
sacha_T3hWiz0rd: "Default" disappeared from splash screen? :O11:42
T3hWiz0rdits the kde default though not the kubuntu11:42
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jendedude_: have 'em?11:42
sacha_oh kubuntu one disappeared? i think you can just d/l it again11:42
T3hWiz0rdfrom where?11:43
dude_jende: ya, is there a graphical interface maual?11:43
dude_jende: ya, is there a graphical interface manual?11:43
jendedude_: not really, but you can use konqueror11:43
Jucatodude_: in Konqueror, type man:/apt or something like that11:43
sacha_well if you cant find it, could always ask someone to send theirs :)11:43
dadRight.......i sort of thought that to begin but the someone said"your usernames fine" and so i just thought IF i could use it on this channel then i should be able to use it on the ubuntu channel.I understand that "dad" is mabey a very common username but it was just this accepting it and the "it`s ok" that sort of threw me...sorry11:44
T3hWiz0rdits almost as if it deleted my entire .kde folder.11:44
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sacha_:O11:45
dude_jende: i'll just search the web for that manual, pdf format11:45
sacha_well if you delete .kde folder, it makes it again when you login11:45
sacha_with default stuff.. maybe kubuntu splash screen not in that11:45
T3hWiz0rdi know that.11:45
Jucatodad: I said that your username's fine, in a way that there's nothing wrong with it. but of course that doesn't discount the fact that there might be someone else using it in another channel. like what happens in #ubuntu11:45
Jucatooh.. you don't have to delete the whole .kde directory...11:45
Jucatoif you do that, you lose *all* customizations you made11:46
sacha_yep11:46
Jucatoyou can safely just delete the specific config/directory...11:46
jendedude_: you might find something in wikipedia11:46
sacha_if you can join this server with your name that means the name isn't being used.. you can join any channel then11:46
Jucatobut afaik, the default ksplash theme is in kubuntu-default-settings11:46
dude_ok, tnx11:47
jendedude_: maybe you can browse the debian.org site, too11:47
Jucatodude_: you can browse it offline in Konqueror, using man:/11:47
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dadSorry m8.....i just assumed that you meant it was ok for me to use.......Theres obviously nothing wrong with the actual name.Not after some ive seen..lol.Thanks anyway.It ALL helps.I`ll go try a new name11:48
_ZeeOi'm having a prob with sound it seems like only one sound can play at a time if i'm playing mp3s and a sound trys to play it don't play tillt he mp3 is done11:49
_ZeeOthen i get like 10 sounds at onec11:49
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T3hWiz0rdsacha_: i am gonna just reinstall kubuntu desktop11:50
_ZeeO.11:50
sacha_:O11:50
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: no harm in that eh?11:50
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: or is that a "Bad idea"?11:50
sacha_reinstall as in what?11:50
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sacha_delete .kde?11:50
sacha_or reinstall the OS?11:51
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T3hWiz0rdsacha_: no, somehow everything got jacked up... sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop11:51
T3hWiz0rdsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:51
sacha_oh ok11:51
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Jucatowouldn't do much good T3hWiz0rd11:51
_ZeeOno one ess have this with sound?11:51
T3hWiz0rdits not letting me.11:52
_ZeeOi'm on a dell laptop11:52
T3hWiz0rdJucato: it'll reinstall all the default kubuntu packages, will it not? for kde?11:52
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: no11:52
T3hWiz0rdJucato: how can i reinstall those?11:52
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: my guess is that it's still installed. just not visible from the Splash Screen options.11:52
Jucatotry looking for ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash and delete that folder so that your system will use the default splash settings11:53
T3hWiz0rdJucato: for record: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings11:53
T3hWiz0rdit reinstalls the defaults :-P11:53
T3hWiz0rdjust did it11:54
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T3hWiz0rdall working now too11:54
T3hWiz0rdback to normal11:54
Jucatoso it's back to normal?11:54
T3hWiz0rdyeah11:54
T3hWiz0rdscared me for a second lol11:54
Jucatogood for you then11:54
Jucato:)11:54
T3hWiz0rdi actually like showing off the kubuntu logo when i log in at work11:55
T3hWiz0rddidn't want it gone11:55
maddadSo even on here it changes to "maddad" but still dont work on ubuntu channel.....Mabey i should just install kubuntu desktop here on edgy too:-)....be bloody easier cause i aint getting on to no "ubuntu" channel11:57
T3hWiz0rdJucato: being the only certified administrator,. i am the only one with authority to choose what OS i run11:57
T3hWiz0rdeveryone else is stuck on winblows so i can monitor them closer.11:57
magicmikeYo jende. How's it going?11:57
Jucatohm..11:57
T3hWiz0rdJucato: and so that they don't break stuff.11:57
jendemagicmike: not toooooo bad11:57
magicmikeGood.11:57
jendemagicmike: and yourself?11:57
T3hWiz0rdokay thats enough breaking of the linux for me today.11:57
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T3hWiz0rdI am goinbg to bed. Laters.11:57
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jendebrb11:58
magicmikeGood. Thanks. I reinstalled ubuntu onto the new hd and I've got the networking configured. Can we do that update thing again?11:58
Jucatobye T3hWiz0rd11:58
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harmentalhi everybody....11:58
magicmikeHi11:59
sacha_hi11:59
harmentalhow can i convert a png file to a pdf file of the same size?11:59
prophithow do i install the flash player from adobe on kubuntu?11:59
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Jucato!flash11:59
timothy_how do i make a program run at startup11:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:59
timothy_?11:59
Jucatoprophit: read that link ^^^^ (works only on 32-bit systems, afaik)12:00
Jucatotimothy_: put a link to the program in ~/.kde/Autostart12:00
Jucatoor12:00
_ZeeO!soubd12:00
Jucatojust leave it open before you logout, and if your system is set to restore from a previous session (this is the default behavior) it will open once you log back in12:00
_ZeeO!sound12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soubd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:01
magicmikejende: You awake, mate?12:01
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jendemagicmike: sure am...I shouldn't sleep now as its just noon12:02
magicmikeWhere are you?12:03
jendemagicmike: germnay12:03
magicmikeIt's 6 am here.12:03
jendemagicmike: germany12:03
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magicmikeCool. My best gal pal is from Germany. We've been friends over 25 years. Her name's Ute.12:03
jendemagicmike: okay...where abouts in G is she?12:04
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magicmikeShe lives here in the US. New York state. Not sure where she is originally from but I'll check and let you know.12:05
jendemagicmike: I've been years ago in NYC, had a nice stay at the paramount hotel12:05
magicmikeI met her mom a couple years ago when she came here to visit.12:05
magicmikeI drank there once. LOL12:05
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Jucato...12:06
jendemagicmike: where? at the paramount?12:06
Jucatoneed to take a nap... jende you take care :)12:07
JucatoI kinda feel drowsy..12:07
magicmikeYea. Well, yesterday I couldn't do the rep updates because of some hash marks that had to be editied out. If you can get me to that sources.list thing again I should be able to edit it and get setup.12:07
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jendemagicmike: press ALT+F2 and type in the commandline box kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:10
BadRabbit320hi all, how do I get to use the msttcorefonts(already installed 'and' showing in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts), but not available to use when I try to change my fonts in kcontrol center fonts?12:10
jende!paste12:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:11
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magicmikeI'll have to write these commands down for future ref.12:11
jendemagicmike: and your sources.list should be like this after you've modofied it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27320/12:12
magicmikeJust one silly question. Could I have run that command line in console as well?12:13
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jendemagicmike: no, in commandline it is sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list    read man vi12:17
sacha_alt+f2 just runs a command in a terminal but doesnt pop the terminal up for you12:17
jendemagicmike: no, in commandline it is sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list    read-> man vi12:17
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sacha_you could run it in the terminal, but you wouldnt be able to use that terminal until you closed kate12:17
jendesacha_: yep, that's what I meant...just haven't been that precise, I suppose12:17
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jendesacha_: but I prefer the vi anyway, but not that easy sometimes to use for newb's12:17
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sacha_yeah i prefer it too :) /search is nice12:17
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jendesacha_: yep ;)12:17
sacha_instead of ctrl+w in nano, etc12:17
jendesacha_: vi is just perfect12:17
sacha_and to just 'dd' out a line12:17
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jendemagicmike: are you getting there?12:17
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jendeJosefK: howdy12:19
JosefKjende: hoi :)12:19
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magicmikeI think so. What's next?12:20
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BadRabbit320!icoutils12:23
ubotuicoutils: Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.25.0-1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 172 kB12:23
BadRabbit320!msttcorefonts12:24
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB12:24
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sacha_!x11-fonts-corefonts12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x11-fonts-corefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
tony_Good morning. I need help installing a webcam.12:25
jendemagicmike: so, you've saved the changes12:26
jendetony12:26
jende!webcam12:26
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:26
ubuntu_hi peeps 1syt time Linux user here,.ne 1 know how i be able to connect and see/download from my local network (all winXP)12:26
tony_Hi jende12:26
jende!webcam12:26
tony_!webcam12:26
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:26
magicmikeYea. Take a quick look. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27458/12:27
hyperhow can I mount .cue files?12:27
hyperhello abattoir :)12:27
jendemagicmike: well done12:27
abattoirhi hyper :)12:27
magicmikeThanks. What's next?12:28
abattoirhyper: how are you?12:28
hyperdoing fine :)12:28
abattoirgreat :)12:28
jendemagicmike: now open a console (Alt+F2)12:28
hyperwhat about you?12:28
hyperalways helping other people in here?12:28
abattoirdoing fine as well :)12:28
magicmikeYup12:28
abattoirhyper: no, haven't been very active here for the past few days... having exams12:28
jendemagicmike: and then type: sudo apt-get update12:28
skaheadhat hier jemand kgamma am laufen?12:29
hyperabattoir: I hope they went/go well12:29
hyper!de12:29
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:29
skaheadsry wrong channel12:29
abattoirhyper: thanks :)12:29
abattoirhyper: they have been going well, so far ;)12:30
hyperabattoir: good to hear :)12:30
ubuntu_ne 1 can help me to get my local network ,.working on Kubuntu12:30
hyperabattoir: may I have a guess: It's computer science?12:30
magicmikeAnd hope it doesn't wipe out my network this time. LOL12:30
ubuntu_so i can take sum linux programs from my other PC12:30
jendemagicmike: is the update running?12:30
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hyperubunut_ what doesn't work?12:30
ubuntu_well it says its not running12:31
magicmikeDone. Do I now sudo apt get install?12:31
jendemagicmike: what was it again you wanted to install?12:31
hyperabattoir: I don't have a registered nick so I can't query you :) anyway, seems you're studying the same as I do :)12:31
skaheadhas someone kgamma running?12:31
abattoirhyper: oh ok, really? that's nice :)12:32
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ubuntu_If i go to Network service it says " Zeroconf-Deamon (rndnsd) not running12:32
newRunneris any package listing to see in the web about CD and DVD packages of kubuntu?12:32
magicmikeI wanted to install a firewall, multimedia codecs and perhaps a newsreader that handles nzb files.12:32
hyperabattoir: now I should be working on my master thesis in law... but I find every excuse to not work on it... e.g. like checking how it would be to found the Pirate Party in Switzerland ^^12:32
jendemagicmike: yep, thats what it was ;-)12:33
abattoirnewRunner: one sec... for Dapper?12:33
newRunneryes12:33
abattoirhyper: heh :P12:33
newRunnerI want a full list of CD and DVD12:33
jendemagicmike: here we go -> type: sudo apt-get install menus kmyfirewall libxine-extracodecs12:34
tony_How do I add lines to the source list?12:34
jendetony_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:34
sacha_newrunner: dvd+rw-tools ?12:34
magicmikeReply: E: Couldn't find package menus12:34
sacha_full list would be on a rep site12:34
abattoirnewRunner: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.list is for the cd12:34
jendemagicmike: here we go -> type: sudo apt-get install menu kmyfirewall libxine-extracodecs12:35
hyperubuntu_ what does that demon do?12:35
newRunnerand for dvd ?12:35
ubuntu_ shud be conecting me to my local network i think12:35
ubuntu_i got 3 more pc's running on Win XP12:35
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abattoirnewRunner: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.list is the dvd12:36
ubuntu_ got sum stuff on it for Linux i want on here12:36
abattoirnewRunner: be patient :P12:36
magicmikeThat s screwed things up huh? LOL12:36
tony_Thanks again jende12:36
ubuntu_like gd virusscan and stuff12:36
newRunnervery thanks abattoir....12:36
hyperubuntu_ well, networking worked for me right out of the box after I set the correc ESSID :)12:36
abattoirnewRunner: no problem :)12:36
ubuntu_how and where i do that ?12:37
ubuntu_im 1st time linux user :p12:37
ubuntu_was curious about it12:37
jendetony_: no worries, you're welcom12:37
jendetony_: no worries, you're welcome12:37
hyperubuntu_ hmmm, you are in Kubuntu right?12:37
Linux_Galoreubuntu why do you need a virus scan program ??12:37
ubuntu_yes ,.runnin from cd still havent full inbstalled it12:37
ubuntu_might be doing that in bit12:37
hyperubuntu_ oh... not sure if wireless runs from the live cd12:38
jendemagicmike: what has things screwed up?12:38
hyperbut if you have a normal ethernet card12:38
ubuntu_hmm i have wireless but not on this pc m812:38
ubuntu_i do12:38
hyperubuntu_ KStart (Button) --> System Settings --> Network Settings12:38
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magicmikeNothing. Just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and now waiting for it to finish.12:39
ubuntu_im there12:39
hyperis eth0 activated?12:40
ubuntu_and can see my ethernet card12:40
jendemagicmike: how many packages will it download?12:40
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magicmikeA lot.12:40
ubuntu_uhm think so its saying @ interface eth012:40
jendemagicmike: in numbers?12:40
hyperdoes it say enabled?12:40
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jendehyper: what about kdesu route?12:40
harmentalhow can i convert a png file to a pdf file of the same size?12:40
ubuntu_yes m812:41
hyperroutes is also correct?12:41
ubuntu_im running it in Dutch so had to look lolo12:41
jendeharmental: open the png in openoffice writer and export it as aPDF12:41
magicmike374 upgraded 8 new12:41
hypercorrect gateway and correct interface?12:41
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jendemagicmike: thats brill12:41
harmentaljende: thx!!12:42
jendeharmental: you're welcome12:42
ubuntu_im not sure ,.gonna have to take a look on other pc for that now12:42
magicmikeAfter that continues I should run sudo apt-get install menus and then sudo update-menus?12:42
ubuntu_thnx neways ,.ima have a look :)12:43
jendemagicmike: yeah, but its menu not menus12:43
hyperubuntu_: just check that all the settings are correct in there12:43
magicmikeOkay. Thanks.12:43
tony_Does Kubuntu have or can I get a program that I can make a Recovery image of my machine so I can back my hd up in case I mess something up?12:43
jendeharmental: make sure that "automatic fileextension" is enabled!!!12:43
jendetony_: sure12:44
hypertony_: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_systemimager12:44
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jendetony_: in the menu -> system -> keep12:45
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tony_I'm new and I would hate to lose all the things you guys have helped me get. I don't think I can remember how to get them back.12:45
tony_Thanks again jende12:45
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jendetony_: have it?12:46
hypertony_: I setup a wiki for myself with all the things I do in here... so if I need to set up the machine again I can just mainly copy'n'paste from there :)12:46
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tony_Maybe ounce I know what I'm doing ....I can do the same!12:46
sacha_im wondering if compositing works for anyone? i get this big mess of overlapped windows.. what's it meant to look like?12:47
hypertony_: well, it's just a bit aid for me... people have helped me with so many things there is no chance I can remember all of that :)12:47
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tony_This is the main thing I get confused with Linux. I ran the Easy Cam program. It finished...thats it. Where did it go..?12:48
Tm_Tsacha_: Well, if you use translucency, it will come a mess with multiple windows. :)12:48
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tony_It seems every time I try to install something it does that. I can never find it.12:49
jendetony_: it should be in the menu -> multimedia section if everything went fine12:49
hypertony_: no clue where it adds icons in kubuntu... however I think you should be able to just run it from bash:  EasyCam12:49
jendetony_: but that's just a guess, cause I don't have it installed12:50
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sacha_it's even a mess with 1 window.. the taskbar is transparent but the window goes all black and stuff changes colour with mouseover.. also gets very slow12:51
sacha_tony_: it installed a module for your webcam?12:52
sacha_what was it called?12:52
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Tm_Tsacha_: Sounds fun, can you take a pic?12:52
tony_I typed Easy Cam in the run command...it asked for the passwod...the screen flashed...thats it. Its not anywhere...12:52
sacha_i can barely find the apply button to change it back when i do it :P i'll just try alt+f2 and typing snapshot12:52
hypertony_: not with a whie space between it12:53
tony_I think thats what it was supposed to do sacha_12:53
hypertony_: EasyCam12:53
sacha_tony_: you know the module name? try sudo lsmod12:53
sacha_oh btw alt+f2 doesnt work for me now that desktop is failing12:53
jendetony_: whats the brand/model of your webcam?12:53
tony_Logitec QuickCam12:54
sacha_there's many many types of quickcams...12:54
sacha_messenger, express, web, .. ?12:55
hyperfusion12:55
jendesacha_: it should be either the pwc module oor the spca5xx12:56
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CVirus!log12:57
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs12:57
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sacha_if you have your kernel automatically load modules, you shouldn't have to ever 'find it' tony_12:57
sacha_but if you know the name, you can modprobe it12:57
jendesacha_: try sudo modprobe pwc12:57
magicmikeYea, mine is Logitech Quickcam Messenger. I'll check out your instructions when I'm ready to install it.12:57
sacha_not me jende :P12:58
jendesacha_: true...ooooops...12:58
jendetony_: try sudo modprobe pwc12:58
jendetony_: that is AFAIK the most common module for Logitech QuickCams12:59
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BadRabbit320!bash01:00
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:00
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josh_What font on kubuntu MOSTLY resembles Arial on windows?01:01
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sacha_just download the arial font josh_ :)01:02
sacha_you can download microsoft core fonts01:03
josh_Will it work on kubuntu?01:03
sacha_yes01:03
josh_Oh :o01:03
josh_Sweet thanks :d01:03
sacha_!msttcorefonts01:03
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB01:03
josh_How would i install it? or where? i'm new on kubuntu, used ubuntu for a little bit, but i can't find the repositorys on kubuntu :x01:04
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jendejosh_: as the msttcorefonts are *optional* in the repo *multiverse* you want to change your sources.list01:05
hyperjosh_: the reposirotires are at the same place  /etc/apt/sources.list01:05
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josh_ok ty01:05
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jendemagicmike: are you still downloading?01:06
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jendetony_: we need, before you do a modprobe the output of 'lsusb'01:10
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sacha_i think he's using terminal as a user, so he needs sudo lsusb01:10
jendetony_: and it can be happen that is a bit of a hassle to get the camera working properly01:10
josh_On ubuntu there was sympatec (sp) or whatever to get programs, is there something like that for kubuntu? and where is it?01:10
jendetony_: true, sometimes I think people should know *sudo* after they've used like 4-5times01:11
hazard2dselect01:11
hazard2???01:11
jendejosh_: adept???01:12
sacha_it might be a bit hard on him if he tries lsusb as user and it says command not found :P might think it wouldnt work as root either01:12
hazard2or that01:12
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sacha_System->Adept i think01:12
josh_Er, i don't know what it's called on kubuntu, on ubuntu there was a place where i could open and it would give me a list of repositorys and i could find what i need, download, and install from there. It was like, sympantec or something.01:12
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sacha_yes josh :)01:12
sacha_front-end for apt-get01:12
jendejosh_: taht is adept -> packetmanager01:12
hazard2I tghought you were talking about CLI stuff01:12
josh_it isn't under system. :x01:14
sacha_ok, not sure where it's under, just a guess :P01:14
sacha_Settings?01:14
jendejosh_: it is here on dapper and edgy in the section system, as the first program01:14
hyperjosh: from bash you could use aptitude01:14
jendemagicmike: ???01:18
sacha_yay it was system :)01:18
magicmikeYupper.01:18
magicmikeStill doing it's thing.01:18
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josh_Search ftw, found it01:18
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davide_ciao a tutti01:18
davide_ciao jende01:18
Tm_T!it01:18
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:18
davide_ah sorry01:18
davide_i forgot01:18
Tm_T;)01:18
jendehey davide01:18
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jendedavide_: I found a driver for your printer01:18
davide_there are news jende01:18
jendewhat was the model again?01:18
davide_yesterday i spent about 2 hours to understand01:18
davide_the problem01:18
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davide_and at the end01:18
davide_i was able to install drivers01:18
jendedavide_: Brilliant!!!01:18
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davide_but the story has not finished,unfortunately01:18
davide_eheheh01:18
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davide_now when i try to print01:18
davide_the printer doesn't start01:18
jendedavide_: but at least you've learned a bit and understand a few things better now01:18
davide_sure01:18
davide_i'm understanding each day more01:18
davide_and i'm loving Ubuntu01:18
tony_Does Kubuntu auto detect when you plug something into a USB port? I'm wondering if my USB ports are working.....01:18
jendedavide_: so what printer was it again?01:18
davide_it's Canon i25001:18
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jendetony_: what do you want to plug into the USB ?01:19
davide_tony_ it doesn't recognize my usb01:19
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josh_How do i give Adept administrative privelages?01:19
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sacha_type in password? it should just prompt you josh_01:19
tony_I'm still messing with the webcam... jende01:19
jendedavide_: give a min and I'll post you a Link to get the right printerdriver, okay01:19
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josh_Hmm,01:19
josh_No, it didn't prompt and it sais it doesn't have administrative properties01:19
jendetony_: what tells you sudo lsusb?01:20
sacha_if for some reason it isnt, just run adept from alt+f2 as user: root01:20
davide_yes jende i'll wait01:20
davide_;)01:20
davide_it's so beautiful this community,everyone offers his help!01:20
sacha_click options on the alt+f2 dialog to have the change user part appear01:20
davide_wonderful!01:20
BadRabbit320is there a newer ver of kde (i have 3.5.2) and if so, how do i update it?01:20
sacha_3.5.5 BadRabbit32001:20
sacha_does it not show that version in Adept? :S01:21
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tony_jende: it just puts the cursor all the way to th left of the screen and sits there.01:23
josh_How do i make it, so when i hover over something on the bar the bubble doesn't pop up and give a summary of it or whatever..?01:23
jendetony_: no output at all?01:23
tony_Nope.01:24
jendetony_: sudo lsusb01:24
sacha_whoops jende.. cant run it as sudo either01:24
sacha_have to run it as root01:24
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jendesacha_: I said sudo lsusb01:24
sacha_yeah sudo doesnt work01:24
fildohi all01:24
jendesacha_: thats weird01:24
tony_jende: same thing01:24
sacha_bash-3.1$ sudo lsusb01:24
sacha_sudo: lsusb: command not found01:24
sacha_$ lsusb01:25
sacha_Bus 1 Device 2: ID 09da:022b A4 Tech Co., Ltd01:25
jende!paste01:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:25
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sacha_tony_: type in: su -      and then your password and then: lsusb01:26
sacha_that is, your root password01:26
josh_Is there a terminal command i can type to get the basic microsoft fonts?01:26
jendesacha_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27464/01:26
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apokryphosjosh_: install msttcorefonts from multiverse01:26
tony_jende: su: Authentication failure01:26
sacha_yeah jende, it musnt be in the bin folder for user, only for root01:27
josh_Type that in terminal? or 'multiverse'?01:27
apokryphostony_: what are you trying to do?01:27
apokryphosjosh_: use Kubuntu's package manager01:27
jendedavide_: bad day, though01:27
apokryphosjosh_: first you'll have to add the multiverse repository -- for how to do that, please see the FAQ in the channel /topic01:27
davide_jende why you say this?01:27
davide_there are not drivers?01:28
jendedavide_: just tested the driver and that driver doesn't work at all01:28
sacha_tony_: you have to use root password, not user password01:28
davide_ah ok01:28
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davide_What luck!!01:28
davide_eheheeheh01:28
D4m4gehello01:28
davide_no but it's really strange01:28
jendedavide_: there is one which got tested and approved, the thing is that this driver cost money01:28
D4m4geuh...did i just make a /who command?01:28
D4m4gei did not ask anything...01:28
davide_that the driver i have01:28
tony_jende:  i did.01:28
davide_fonction for others but not for me01:28
davide_it's absurd!01:29
tony_I mean sacha_01:29
sacha_it's not your sudo password01:29
jendedavide_: no its not absurd that is the businesspolitic by canon and lexmark01:29
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davide_but i thought than canon was one of the societies that offered supports for linux01:30
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tony_sacha_: if i change to a root Konsole it lets me in...01:30
jendedavide_: have a look at: http://www.turboprint.info/01:30
sacha_ok go to a root konsole, then do: lsusb01:30
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davide_jende:  but i need to connect to a dialer01:31
host-oneciao a tutti01:32
tony_sacha_: the cursor goes all the way to the left of the screen and sits there01:32
magicmikeBe back in a few. Getting kids ready for school.01:32
davide_to download this driver01:32
davide_?01:32
jendedavide_: noooooo01:32
sacha_i don't know then :S01:36
jendedavide_: whats your email addi?01:36
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davide_it's davideniko@libero.it01:36
tony_I'll have to try this again later...Time for work.  Thanks guys!! jende and sacha_01:36
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jendedavide_: just downloaded the driver and will sent it now to your address01:36
davide_jende i really thank you01:36
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jendedavide_: its on the way; its kinda huge the file - 6.xMB's ;-)01:37
michi_hi, does anybody know if it is a problem having 2 GUI's installed at the same time?01:38
davide_ah ok01:38
sacha_no problem michi_ :) none that i have come across anyway01:38
michi_ok, thanks. than i will install xfce now....01:40
davide_jende i go for 20 minutes01:40
davide_see you later?01:40
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jendedavide_: the upload is now on 50%01:41
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davide_ah ok01:41
jendedavide_: I'll be back in lets say 45mins01:42
davide_20 minutes and i'll be here01:42
davide_so,see you later01:42
davide_and thank you jende!01:42
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jendedavide_: I've got to go quickly to get some food will be back in 45mins,okay01:42
jendedavide_: see ya01:42
jendesee ya soonish folks; need some food01:43
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josh_It's not letting me fetch updates after adding the universe and multiverse repositorys. =[01:46
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livingdaylightguys where is teh dictionary that comes in Ubuntu by default?01:47
livingdaylightis that just a Gnome feature or does KDE have the same or equivalent dictionary feature?01:47
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MistaEDlivingdaylight: afaik kde does have it, it might need enabling in kcontrol01:48
magicmikeYo jende. Guess what?01:48
josh_Jende left for food.01:48
livingdaylightMistaED: i figured it must. KDE has everything afaik01:48
livingdaylightMistaED: but where?01:48
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magicmikeAfter reboot, my only networking option is the dialup modem. Okay, thanks.01:49
livingdaylightMistaED: kubuntu doesn't have kcontrol - do you mean system settings?01:49
MistaEDlivingdaylight: lemme look, i'm in gnome at the moment but i do have kcontrol01:49
MistaEDyeah if that has it01:49
MistaEDyou can still run kcontrol from the terminal01:50
josh_Anyone know why it won't let me fetch updates after i added universe/multiverse repositories? =(01:50
MistaEDlivingdaylight: it's under kde components > spell checker01:50
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livingdaylightMistaED: found it in system settings but how to bring spell checker to the desktop?01:52
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MistaEDlivingdaylight: not sure, i just know it did have that option ;) sorry01:53
MistaEDkonqueror might have an enable/disable itself01:53
livingdaylightAnyone know how to bring the dictionary to the desktop01:53
sacha_there's probably something on kde-apps for that01:53
sacha_oh yeah konqueror has spell check01:53
livingdaylighti want dictionary, not a spell checker01:53
sacha_ohh dictionary01:54
livingdaylightan independent dictionary apart from any webclient01:54
MistaEDoh sorry livingdaylight, i think there is a tool somewhere but it logs into a website01:54
livingdaylightsacha_: yes, please01:54
sacha_use 'dict' :) it's very nice dictionary i used in Hiweed01:54
livingdaylighta dcitionary client like in Gnome01:54
livingdaylightwhy this doesn't come default i don't know - it does in Gnome/ubuntu01:55
livingdaylightsacha_: do i have to install it then?01:55
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sacha_yeah01:55
MoffiaHello01:55
livingdaylightsudo apt-get install dict ?01:55
sacha_not sure if it's in your rep, try it01:55
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sacha_try: dictd01:56
sacha_nvm that's daemon01:57
sacha_dict-wn ?01:57
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pinchartlhi01:59
pinchartlI need to install Linux on an "old" computer (400MHz, 128MB of RAM). I'd like to get reasonable performances, and don't really care about the eye candy but need an easy to use (for non geeks) desktop environment. would kubuntu do ?01:59
livingdaylightsacha_: dict should work but didn't from command line, due to dependency or somthing. but synaptic apparently did01:59
livingdaylightsacha_: so now where is it?02:00
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sacha_try: dict ?02:00
hazard2pinchartl: it'd be slow, but it'd work.02:00
pinchartlhazard2: how slow ? usable ?02:00
hazard2if you had more ram you'd get much better perforemence02:00
hazard2I'm not sure.02:01
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pinchartlthe computer is not mine, I can't add more ram02:01
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hazard2it would depend on what it decides to load (or what you tell it)02:01
hazard2whose is it?02:01
pinchartlits a university computer02:01
hazard2I see...02:02
hazard2well...02:02
pinchartlI'd go for more RAM if I could02:02
hazard2how big is the harddrive (and you wouldn't happen to know if the drive is ultra-66 would you?)02:02
MoffiaYou can try DNS02:02
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hazard2becuase if you've got a nice drive which is fast, the lack of ram might work out02:02
pinchartlhazard2: SCSI harddrive, 8GB if I remember well02:03
MoffiaAnd 400MHz isnt that great02:03
MoffiaI'd say get atleast 1GHz02:03
hazard2Also having a 3d card (a REAL non-INTEGRATED) one would probably help02:03
pinchartlMoffia: DNS ?02:03
MoffiaDamn Small Linux02:03
hazard2hey, kubuntu runs fine on this 733 P3.02:03
MoffiaWow!02:03
MoffiaEven with that eyecandy of KDE?02:03
hazard2yes02:03
MoffiaAmazing...02:03
Baffynice02:03
livingdaylightwhere is this friggin dictionary?02:03
hazard2with 512ram though02:03
pinchartlMoffia: wouldn't that be DSL ? :-)02:03
MoffiaErm, woops02:03
MoffiaMy bad haha, DSL, yep ;)02:04
Moffiait's like 80MB02:04
sacha_livingdaylight: the dict command didnt work?02:04
apokryphoslivingdaylight: in konqueror -> dict:someword02:04
livingdaylighti type dict in command line it just gives me the version02:04
hazard2And if this machine had a decient harddrive (as in one that isn't 4gb and only ultra33), it would go a good bit faster too02:04
livingdaylightand dict --help02:04
apokryphoslivingdaylight: or install kdict02:04
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sacha_ah kdict, thanks apok02:04
MoffiaKubuntu 92% yay02:04
livingdaylighti just want a gui in my applications menu so i can transfer it to my taskbar - even better!02:04
MistaEDpinchartl: do you need .deb/apt-get? i'd consider zenwalk 3.0 but the package management isn't as good being slackware-based02:05
sacha_livingdaylight: try kdict (apokryphos suggestion)02:05
livingdaylightapokryphos: is that the one? thx bux02:05
hazard2pinchartl: you could try it, you'd need the 'alternate' installer CD since the normal one will load a GUI you don't have enough ram for.02:05
Electrolyte[V2] GRRR!!!02:05
livingdaylight*bud02:05
apokryphosnp02:05
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MistaEDpinchartl: it's orders of magnitude faster than ubuntu on old hardware, it uses xfce4.x though02:05
hazard2but really, the only way to see if its ok for you is to try it.02:05
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MoffiaKbuuntu 99% downloading w00p w00p ^^02:06
pinchartlok thanks for your help everybody02:06
livingdaylightapokryphos: how do i now find it in my applications menu?02:06
sacha_livingdaylight: go to menu editor and add it in if it isnt there02:07
hazard2in regards to the performence of kubuntu on this 733, it plays most of my videos more smoothly than my faster machines (given they run either windows or mac os, and x11 seems to have better hardware RTC support on linux than either of the latter)02:07
sacha_it's probably in edutainment or something..02:07
livingdaylightsacha_: and where is the menu editor :)02:08
MistaEDhazard2: how much ram though? kubuntu is unusable with 128mb i tested it myself02:08
apokryphoslivingdaylight: don't know, I never use the k menu. Just alt+f2 -> kdict someword (or just plain kdict)02:09
hazard2512 for me (-32 I think for giving integrated graphics something decient to use)02:09
MistaEDthe guidance didn't help either using python02:09
sacha_Settings->Menu Editor02:09
livingdaylightapokryphos: that takes too long02:09
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livingdaylighti want dict on my taskbar for immediate reference/use02:09
livingdaylightsacha_: lol, guess where?02:09
hazard2wow...02:10
apokryphoslivingdaylight: no, it's way faster -- that's the whole reason I don't use the k menu -- takes too long.02:10
hazard2that's impressive (in that weird geeky way)02:10
sacha_where?02:10
apokryphoslivingdaylight: taskbar, or in the menu?02:10
sacha_edutainment?02:10
livingdaylightsacha_: applications/internet/more applications02:10
sacha_lol02:10
livingdaylightapokryphos: taskbar02:10
apokryphosthen make a shortcut there02:10
hazard2playing an AVI though a network connection is only using <20% cpu (including everything presently running)02:10
livingdaylightapokryphos: then it is right there without altF202:10
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sacha_we thought you were talking baout Kmenu02:11
sacha_but yeah just add it into taskbar yourself as a shortcut02:11
livingdaylightsacha_: well, usually its in the k-menu first and then i can make a shortcut from there02:11
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WindwalkerHi. I just started the installer (Kubuntu 6.10) and I do not see reiserfs?02:11
apokryphosWindwalker: it's not supported on Ubuntu02:13
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Windwalkerapokryphos: but in ubuntu i have dapper with reiserfs02:13
sacha_im on reiser right now :)02:13
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livingdaylightWindwalker: ubuntu uses ext302:13
apokryphosWindwalker: perhaps that's when support was dropped02:13
livingdaylightWindwalker: you can use reiserfs though if you prefer02:13
sacha_fdisk and then mkreiserfs02:13
hazard2what are the alternitives for an aim client to Kopete and Gaim?02:13
WindwalkerI do not see it in the drop down menu02:13
sacha_you dont like newest kopete? :( :P02:13
hazard2I don't like all the options....02:13
livingdaylightWindwalker: are you suse user?02:13
BonBonTheJonsacha_: whats the newest version02:13
Windwalkerare you satisfied with ext3? Is it stable after power down states?02:13
sacha_yeah wind, i think you'd have to do it manually... they dropped support cause of reiser being accused as a murderer02:13
Windwalkernope02:13
hazard2(I'm used to apple's iChat, lame as it may be, its nice and simple)02:13
Windwalkerjust tested Ubuntu dapper and was happy, but now want Kubuntu 6.1002:14
apokryphossacha_: who did?02:14
sacha_a lot of distros dropped reiser support after Hans Reiser was accused of murdering his wife02:14
Windwalker:)02:14
Windwalkerkidding???02:14
sacha_no02:14
apokryphossacha_: can you name one?02:14
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sacha_ubuntu?02:14
Windwalkeryes02:14
apokryphossacha_: no, that's not when they dropped 'support' for it.02:14
sacha_there's quite a lot, i think suse too? and fedora02:15
Windwalkercan you suggest something else but really stable I am going to set up terminal server...02:15
Windwalkernot distro02:15
sacha_they said they were considering dropping it before, but that just tipped it off02:15
Windwalkerfilesystem02:15
livingdaylightmaybe Hans had a good reason for murdering his wife?02:15
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apokryphossacha_: I presume you mean SLED, in which case you'd be wrong too, they still support it.02:15
livingdaylight :p02:15
sacha_windwalker: you can still use reiserfs just have to do it manually02:15
Windwalkerlivingdaylight: I guess so02:15
Windwalkercfdisk way?02:15
sacha_yes02:15
Windwalker10x02:16
hazard2+302:16
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Windwalkersacha_: you said you use reiserfs. Do you find it stable...better than ntfs for example. I am not very familiar with unixfs regarding stability yet02:18
Windwalkerext3 vs. reiserfs in matter of reliability02:18
apokryphosreiserfs has certain advantages over ext3, and visa versa02:18
apokryphosmost stability reiser issues are ancient, but some still float about02:18
hazard2ntfs makes me want to die.02:18
Windwalkernot speaking about advantages but stability02:18
sacha_i have never had any problems with any filesystem, can't say really02:19
hastesaversacha_, no, they had announced dropping support long before he was even accused. The reason was that no one was maintaining reiserfs, and it has nowhere to go02:19
apokryphosreiser outperforms ext3 on most I/O operations02:19
sacha_i know that haste, but they (not just ubuntu) said that it tipped it off/ fasttracked t if you will02:19
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Windwalkernot a performance issue but stability is my concern02:19
apokryphoshastesaver: if you're talking about SLED, once again -- support isn't being dropped, just it's losing its default fs status02:19
apokryphosWindwalker: I've used reiser for quite some time and I've never had any stability issues with it02:20
apokryphosthough they also take quite a bit longer to mount than ext3 partitions02:20
Windwalkerthat was the question :) 10x02:20
hastesaverapokryphos, oops, sorry02:20
hazard2I use whater the linux installer decides to use.02:21
sacha_yeah, even after they drop 'support' you can still use reiserfs02:21
hazard2of course...02:22
hazard2it wouldn't be linux otherwise02:22
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sacha_but a lot of people who use ubuntu tend to go with default02:22
sacha_so if you change default, you'll get a lot moving to whatever next is02:22
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jendedavide_: hi02:24
jendedavide02:24
jende<davideniko@libero.it>:02:24
jende193.70.193.96 failed after I sent the message.02:24
jendeRemote host said: 552 Error: message too large02:24
hazard2make the message smaller and try again02:24
jendehazard2: *ggg*02:25
sacha_lol02:25
hazard2???02:25
jendehazard2: if I could, I would...unfortunately I can't make it smaller for davide as it is now02:25
sacha_dont think problem is on jende's side02:25
jendedavide_: wake up, italian02:26
davide_we jende02:26
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davide_hi02:27
davide_why this error?02:27
davide_maybe the email space is less02:27
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jendedavide_: so, do you have another mail addi to where I can sent you the driver?Your provider said, that he had to reject the message/attachment as it is to long02:27
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NexusI have recently installed Kubuntu on my laptop. My laptop contains several extra buttons on the front of it and the top which control music and other commands. These aren't working which I expected. I was wondering how I could get them working.02:28
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davide_maybe i can give you an hotmail account,i think it accepts02:28
davide_davideniko@hotmail.it02:28
jendedavide_: check your settings, maybe your not allowed to receive messages which are larger than 5Megs or something02:28
davide_jende we test with this last email02:29
BonBonTheJonNexus: you have to set them up, i'm looking for the tutorial02:30
davide_i remember that "libero"doesn't give the possibility to receive mails larger than 4 mb02:30
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sacha_hotmail doesnt allow more than 1MB (as of 4 months ago, dont know now)02:30
sacha_try gmail, i think that's 10MB02:30
apokryphoscloser to 3GB actually =)02:30
sacha_per message02:30
jendedavide_: or create an account on Yahoo they accept large mails and get back to me02:30
sacha_received02:31
apokryphosoh right, yeah02:31
davide_ok02:35
davide_give me 2 minutes that i create an account with yahoo02:35
jendeyahoo accepts up to 10MB AFAIK02:35
jendeand gves you 1Gb for free02:35
BonBonTheJonNexus: follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12159 but where it says something about gnome disregard, kde's keybinding is in the control panel under international for some reason02:35
sacha_i like gmail better :P quicker to setup too02:35
Nexuscheers, bonbon02:35
jendesacha_: haven't used freemailers for ages, so I Don't knonw which is faster to setup...02:35
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davide_jende well davidenikol@yahoo.it02:36
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jendedavide_: it's on the way02:42
davide_ok,wonderful02:42
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davide_jende sorry but this is a tested driver?02:42
jendehas anyone used turboprint in here?02:42
Carbon_MonoxideHello everybody!02:42
jendedavide_: sure is02:42
Acidic32how do i play .wmv files?02:42
jendeCarbon_Monoxide: hi02:42
Carbon_Monoxidejende: Hi02:42
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jende!wmv02:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:42
Acidic32k02:42
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jendeAcidic32: refer to these manuals02:42
mikeeaglesYo jende.02:42
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mikeeaglesGuess what?02:42
jendemikeeagles: howdy02:42
jendewhat?02:42
jendemikeeagles: I need coffee?02:42
jendemikeeagles: I need smokes?02:42
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jendemikeeagles: come on tell me what happened02:42
mikeeaglesAfter the reboots, I'm back where I was yesterday. No internet connection and the dialup modem being the only connection device listed.02:42
Carbon_MonoxideWhat is the different bewteen typing "sudo apt-get install kde" and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop"?02:42
MDCorehey all. I can resize my ntfs partition non-destructively from the livecd but not from a kubuntu install. Is there a reason for that ?02:43
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jendeCarbon_Monoxide: kubuntu-desktop are neccessary files and packages to get the kubuntu desktop and the KDE is basically all you need to have KDE as your DM02:43
jendemikeeagles: thats more than just weird02:44
mikeeaglesSomething about that dist-updates doesn't like my networking.02:44
jendemikeeagles: by the way...why did you do a reboot anyway?You don't have to reboot02:44
mikeeaglesIt said it needed to reboot following that.02:44
jendemikeeagles: thats weirs, too02:45
jendemikeeagles: thats weird, too02:45
mikeeaglesGood thing I did anyway or I would not have known until later that it was screwed.02:45
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Carbon_Monoxidejende: Thanks! I'm a rough image of it now. Does it mean "installing kubuntu-desktop" has acutally installed all "install kde" packages?02:46
mikeeaglesAny idea how to get it to recognize other connection options or should I go back to square one again?02:46
jendeCarbon_Monoxide: nope02:46
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jendemikeeagles: just trying to get you back to live, but give me few secs to think of a nice and smooth way, okay02:47
mikeeaglesI'm not becoming a fan of this op sys.02:47
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jendemikeeagles: there must be something weird going on with your wlan card, it was wlan wasn't it02:48
mikeeaglesi'll be away from the computer for 10-15 minutes. Yes.02:48
davide_sorry jende but you're just uploading?02:49
gakkoKUBUNTU02:49
mikeeaglesBut why when you install the opsys does it offer both options to connect but after that dist-upgrade it only has dialup modem option?02:49
mikeeaglesSomething in that upgrade wipes out the wlan settings, drivers, etc.02:50
Carbon_Monoxidejende: I just thought "apt-get install kde" is the subset of "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"02:51
WindwalkerHelp please. Kubuntu did not let me use reiserfs as a default filesystem. I setup everything fine with cfdisk. Now the installer want to reformat them with ext3. How can I force it to use reiserfs???Help plz02:51
WindwalkerIt says "Filesystems used by system /,/boot, /usr /var ...should be reformattes = understand replaced with ext3 :(((((02:52
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jendedavide_: it should be there now02:52
WindwalkerCan I trick it somehow???02:52
davide_now i test02:52
jendemikeeagles: still there?02:53
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jendemikeeagles: open a console and tell me what you get with: sudo iwconfig02:53
jendemikeeagles: hello???02:55
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Windwalker Help please. Kubuntu did not let me use reiserfs as a default filesystem. I setup everything fine with cfdisk. Now the installer want to reformat them with ext3. How can I force it to use reiserfs???Kubuntu 6.10 latest02:55
jendeWindwalker: I guess you can't. Anyway reiserfs isn't as good as ext302:55
Windwalker:)02:56
Windwalkergood point02:56
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WindwalkerAnybody using Kubuntu 6.10 with reiserfs???02:57
mikeeaglesOkay.02:57
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jendemikeeagles: now tell me what you get if you do on a console a sudo iwconfig02:57
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mikeeaglesNo wireless extensions.02:58
eth0can anyone help me with xawtv02:58
eth0?02:58
mikeeagleslo no wireless extensions sit0 no wireless extensions.02:58
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pansyhi folks02:59
davide_jende nothing has arrived03:00
jendemikeeagles: I'm actually working on your pprob is a friend, so answers will come a bit slower than usual03:00
WindwalkerAnybody using Kubuntu 6.10 with reiserfs???03:00
davide_eheheheh i'm lucky like always?03:00
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mikeeaglesI can just reinstall and not do the dist- upgrade.03:01
jendemikeeagles: nope03:02
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jendemikeeagles: wanna know whats happening, eventhough we'll get you back to Live03:02
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fjsanchezHi03:03
jendemikeeagles: the wlan card was an internal one, right? If so, pastebin the output of sudo lspci03:03
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mikeeaglesAw man. I did that last night and it took me over a half hour to type all that stuff. I don't have an internet connection on that machine so I can't copy and paste it.03:05
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jendemikeeagles: you posted last nite, true.I'll find it in the archive03:06
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mikeeaglesCool.03:06
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Carbon_MonoxideThe KDE 3.5.5 is not on dapper's repo?03:08
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BluesKajhowdy03:11
Cadmoe aee pessoal03:11
BluesKaj!es03:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:11
jendemikeeagles: do this now: sudo pppoeconf03:12
Cadmoalgum brasileiro ai??03:12
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jendemikeeagles: will that find your wlan card?03:12
BluesKaj!pt03:12
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:12
jendedavide_: did the file arrive?03:12
jendeBluesKaj: howdy03:13
BluesKajhiya jende03:13
jendeCarbon_Monoxide: kde 3.5.5 will be launched with edgy on 26/1003:14
davide_jende not yet03:14
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BluesKajkde 3.5.5 is available for upgrade03:14
BluesKajfrom older versions03:15
Carbon_Monoxidejende: how about dapper?03:15
mikeeaglesNo ethernet card found. Run modconf When modconf run it says command not found.03:15
jendemikeeagles: to run modconf you have to tell modconf which module you want to configure03:16
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jendemikeeagles: eventhough, you have to run it as rot <sudo>03:16
mikeeaglesWhat module is it?03:17
Carbon_MonoxideBluesKaj: hela! I've read the news on KDE. KDE 3.5.5 is available for upgrade, but there is no package on dapper's repo yet?03:17
BluesKajI'm using it as we speak in dapper03:18
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BluesKajgotta find the right03:18
BluesKajrepos03:18
apokryphosCarbon_Monoxide: kubuntu.org03:18
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Carbon_MonoxideBlueKaj: ahhh! did you grab it from main repo?03:19
ubuntuhi from all03:19
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jendedavide_:03:19
jende<davideniko@yahoo.it>:03:19
jende4.79.181.135 failed after I sent the message.03:19
jendeRemote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.it account (davideniko@yahoo.it)03:19
apokryphoshello03:19
Carbon_Monoxideapokryphos: thank you!  :)03:19
BluesKajsorry Carbon_Monoxide, i don't remember...I'm old and i keep changing my sources list to keep it uncluttered03:19
BluesKajhey apokryphos , how's things03:20
davide_jende it's the wrong address: it's davidenikol@yahoo.it03:21
davide_with the "l"after the o03:21
davide_"l"like life03:21
davide_;(03:21
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apokryphosBluesKaj: hi, things are good, yeah =)03:22
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jendecpk2: are you there?03:24
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jendefdoving: ping!03:24
fdovingjende: ack.03:25
jendefdoving: hi!Hope you're well...03:25
jendefdoving: do you know if on the dapper Install CD is modconf?03:26
fdovingI am.03:26
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fdovingjende: what do you mean  'is modconf? ' contains the 'modconf' program?03:27
Carbon_MonoxideBluesKaj: you find your KDE 3.5.5 running stable?03:28
jendefdoving: I mean due to the fact that mikeeagles has lost his Wlan stuff and pppoeconf can't find a card a solution would be to run modconf, but it needs to be installed with apt. As he has no connection to the web with that machine it would be just awesome if modconf could installed with the Install CD03:29
BluesKajyes Carbon_Monoxide...very stable ,no probs03:30
fdovingjende: does he have the live-installer-cd or the alternate cd?03:30
jendefdoving: the live installer, AFAIK03:30
Carbon_MonoxideBluesKaj: Thanks old dude! I almost finished the update  :)03:30
BluesKajcool Carbon_Monoxide, glad to hear it03:31
BluesKaj:)03:31
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jendemikeeagles: have you got the Live Installer CD downloaded or the Alternate?03:32
fdovingjende: doesn't look like modconf is included.03:32
Carbon_Monoxidedone it! and gotta reboot and see the new KDE03:33
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jendefdoving: have you got an idea?03:33
fdovingmikeeagles: didn't you have a acx 100 wlan?03:33
jendefdoving: he has that03:33
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jendefdoving: lspci said it03:33
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fdovingjende: then the modulename is 'acx_pci' if i recall correctly.03:34
mikeeaglesI've got the Live CD but get lots of I/o errors when trying to install from that so I've been installing from A DVD rom From Linux format LXF8303:34
fdovinghe probably need some firmware though.03:34
mikeeaglesI have a03:34
mikeeaglesUS Robotics 22mbps03:35
mikeeaglespci03:35
jendemikeeagles: try this sudo modprobe acx_pci03:35
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jendemikeeagles: the stuff you posted yesterday tells different. US Robotics is just the Brand, the internals are the most important thing and hat says03:36
davide_jende (i know i disturb) but i want to know if you're resending the file in the correct mail.Tnx03:36
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jendethat you have TI Texas Instrument ACX100 WLAN 22mbps card03:36
mikeeaglesFatal: mod ule acx_pci not found.03:36
jendemikeeagles: try this sudo modprobe acx_10003:36
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mikeeaglesThat's what it says. TI acx10003:37
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jendedavide_: got sent and should be....there now03:37
fdovingjende: i think it's 'acx' only.03:37
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Carbon_Monoxidehela BluesKaj! I'm back!03:37
jendemikeeagles: was TI acx 100 the ouput of modprobe acx_10003:37
jendemikeeagles: if not try sudo modprobe acx03:38
Carbon_MonoxideThe new KDE has installed a whole bunches of sxxx onto it.03:38
mikeeaglesFatal: mod ule acx__100 not found03:38
jendemikeeagles: if not try sudo modprobe acx03:38
Carbon_Monoxideoh my god03:38
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mikeeaglesJust comes back to the prompt:03:39
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fdovingmikeeagles: that means success.03:40
mluser-workDoes anyone know if there is a .deb package for flash 9 available for ubuntu/kubuntu yet?03:40
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mikeeaglesIf you say so.03:40
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jendemluser-work: yep there is one03:43
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jendemikeeagles: great, so the module got loaded03:43
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mikeeaglesIf you say so.03:44
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jendemikeeagles: now we should try a sudo ifconfig03:45
jendemikeeagles: now we should try a sudo iwconfig03:46
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jendedavide_: it came back again03:47
mikeeaglesBoth?03:47
jendemikeeagles: give iwconfig a gou03:48
jendemikeeagles: give iwconfig a go03:48
davide_jende i don't know why03:48
davide_if you write the correct address03:48
mikeeaglesNo wireless extensions03:48
jendedavide_: I'll check03:48
jendemikeeagles: now try ifconfig03:48
davide_but it's not possible to send it via Irc?03:48
BluesKajdcc?03:49
jendedavide_: my fault...now it should bealright03:49
jendemikeeagles: what tells you ifconfig03:50
jendemikeeagles: what tells you ifconfig?03:50
davide_ah ok03:51
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davide_i'll wait03:51
hazard2*test*03:51
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jendemikeeagles: ???03:52
BluesKaj03:54
mikeeaglesIfconfig gives me the following: Link encap: Local Loopback inet address:127.0.0.1 Mask 255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP Loopback Running MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0overruns:0frame:0 TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0carrier:0 collisions:0 txquequelen:0 RX bytes:672 (672.0 b) TX bytes: 672 (672.0 b)03:54
jendemikeeagles: now try sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.11103:55
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days44hi03:56
jendedays44: hi03:56
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jendemikeeagles: hope it works04:00
hazard2how can I configure the automoutner installed by default with kubuntu?04:00
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fdovinghazard2: go to settings:/Peripherals/media in konqueror.04:03
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hazard2huh?04:03
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fdovinghazard2: open konqoeror, in the address field, type: 'settings:/Peripherals/media' and press enter.04:04
hazard2hmmm...04:04
fdovinghazard2: you can also go to 'settings:/' and browse from there if you want to.04:04
hazard2that's not quite what I need...04:05
fdovingwhat do you need then?04:05
hazard2well04:05
hazard2when I plug in say a USB key04:05
hazard2it makes the icon on the desktop-04:05
hazard2then when I open it, it can't mount it.04:05
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hazard2I've got autofs installed, and it does it fine.04:05
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hazard2I was hoping I could reconfigure whatever it is that makes the icons to just point things to the configured autofs mount points.04:05
hazard2(since they work better)04:06
fdovingdon't know where you can do that.04:07
hazard2thanks for tryin though04:07
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jendehuuh...mikeeagles gone...04:10
jendedavide_: its there isn't it04:11
knubbeis it possible to upgrade to efty or do i have to do a clean install?04:11
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davide_jende: it's arrived04:11
tomazit's possible to upgrade04:11
Dr_willisedgy :)04:11
tomazbut a clean install is safer04:11
davide_now i'm testing the setup04:11
Dr_willisI advise clean installs also.04:11
knubbehah, i meant edgy :)04:11
jendedavide_: good04:12
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tomazppl, how can i manage the autostart process on the edgy?04:12
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Dr_williswhich autostart process?04:13
knubbetomaz: do i need the cd or can i upgrade via apt somehow?04:13
sacha_i still have no desktop icons, alt+f2 not working and no right click menu for desktop ::(04:13
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jendeknubbe: you can easily upgrade via apt04:13
knubbeDr_willis: id rather not loose my home-dir.04:13
tomazyou can update via apt04:13
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tomazyou just need to add the edgy repositories04:14
Dr_willisknubbe,  thats why i put /home on its own partition.04:14
tomazand apt-get dist-upgrade04:14
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Dr_willisUpgrades can cause issues..04:14
tomazyeh, *never* put your home directorie on the same partition that  / is04:14
jendeknubbe: sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy /g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list04:14
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mikeeaglesWatch that apt-get dist-upgrade, it wipes me out everytime.04:14
knubbeoh well. too late for that now. its already in /04:14
crrjit is possible to move it to another partition04:15
jendeknubbe: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:15
Dr_willisof course ive had issues with upgrading and keeping the gnome/kde settings.. often they confuse the newer versions of gnome/kde - oddly04:15
jendemikeeagles: you're with dapper04:15
mikeeaglesYea, I've been told I'm pretty Dapper. LOL04:15
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jendemikeeagles: so, what did you get as a result?04:16
knubbecrrj: is that easy?04:16
jendeknubbe: sudo apt-get -f install04:16
mikeeaglesI posted it in the channel.04:16
jendemikeeagles: haven't seen it, sorry04:16
tomazppl, how can i configure the boot process of the Edgy Eft?04:17
davide_jende bad news04:17
davide_i did the setup04:17
crrjknubbe, fairly straight forward, take a look at this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/04:17
davide_all was ok04:17
mikeeaglesNo such device04:17
ubuntu__awesome04:17
davide_i start installing my printer04:17
ubuntu__kunbuntu > mandriva04:17
davide_every config i do04:17
crrjIt's been a while since I've moved directories to new partitions / drives, but it wasn't difficult.04:17
davide_my print doesn't go!!!04:17
Dr_willistomaz,  the services are all started using the SysV init system. theres several sysv config tools out.04:17
knubbecrrj: thanks04:17
sacha_can anyone help me? no desktop icons, no alt+f2, no right click menu, it uses the wallpaper from login (not the normal wallpaper) -- everything else works fine04:17
tomazthe edgy is sysv?04:17
tomazi thougth it was upstgart04:18
fdovingtomaz: kmenu -> system settings -> adavanced [tab]  -> system settings.04:18
tomazupstart *04:18
jendemikeeagles: do this now: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces04:18
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jendedavide_: maybe you've done something wrong04:18
davide_i don't know what wrong i did04:19
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jendedavide_: I can't tell from here and I can't install turborint on here either04:19
davide_i think everythink i've done is correct04:19
fdovingtomaz: it is, but it is still compatible with the sysv init way, for now.04:19
jendecan someone help davide with turboprint?04:19
davide_but i installed it04:20
davide_but every port i put04:20
davide_doesn't turn on my printer04:20
Dr_willis!edgy04:20
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:20
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Dr_willisi wonder if we are going to have to splut the channels into a #ubuntu-lts and #ubuntu-edgy :)04:21
sacha_ok, so why would those things happen? im thinking whatever process handles the desktop is frozen04:21
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sacha_anyone know which process that is?04:21
jendewhom of you has used turborprint?04:21
tomazahh04:22
tomaznice =)04:22
tomazi managed, tanks =)04:22
jendesacha_: what tells you 'top'?04:22
mikeeaglesinterfaces - kate shows different interfaces with one being auto wlan and it has the name of my network and the wireless key listed. Guess that shows it exists.04:22
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sacha_i didnt see anything interesting there04:22
sacha_most cpu used up is from arts (playing music?)04:23
jendemikeeagles: so, its not wlan0 its just wlan?04:23
sacha_1%04:23
mikeeaglesauto wlan004:23
seelei did a system upgrade and my wireless device disappeared.. any ideas what to try first?04:23
sacha_then X with 0.3% cpu and top with 0.3% cpu, all the rest with 004:23
sacha_similar with memory04:23
knubbethe partitioning-thing seems too complicated. i dont have enough disk-space to do such thing. ill upgrade instead of clean install.04:24
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mikeeaglesSeele: Same here. Getting help right now.04:24
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seelemikeeagles: what kind of card to you have?04:24
mikeeaglesUS Robotics04:24
jendemikeeagles: ifup wlan004:24
seelehum04:24
jendeseele: it has an acx_100 chipset04:24
mikeeaglesYea.04:24
jendemikeeagles: sudo ifup wlan004:25
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mikeeaglesAfter that last command you gave console says kbuildsycoa running... ScimInputContextPlugin()04:27
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knubbe!schedule04:27
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:27
mikeeaglessorry coca04:27
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jendemikeeagles: huh...???hmmm...04:30
mikeeaglesI brought up another console. It says failed Set failed on Wlan0. Failed to bring up wlan004:30
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jendemikeeagles: kdesu kate /etc/modules04:30
davidejende04:31
davidewell04:31
davidegood news04:31
jendemikeeagles: and see if this file has the entry *acx* if not, please edit in there acx. Then save the file and reboot04:31
jendedavide: the printer works?04:31
davidei moved some options and the printer has printed the test page of turboprint04:32
davideVery good thing!!!04:32
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jendedavide: yep, that's good news04:32
davideeheheeh yes04:32
davidebut now04:32
davidei tried to print a word file04:32
davidebut04:32
davidenothing04:32
mikeeaglesIt has lp, mouse04:33
jendemikeeagles: okay add acx to it; save the file and make a reboot04:33
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mikeeaglesSorry lp, psmouse04:33
ubuntu__What the ??? Windows C: prim partition is 65GB, but kunbuntu install is seeing 30GB NTFS + 35GB free space. WTF??04:33
jendedavide: is the new printer your default printer? have you made that?04:34
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davideyes i did that04:35
davidebut nothing04:35
davidei'm trying to reinstall04:35
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Dr_willisubuntu__,  freespace as in the windows drive is only half full?04:36
jendedavide: if you have the print-dialog open is the printer which comes up the one you installed with turboprint? is in that box another one?04:36
mikeeaglesRebooted. What next?04:36
Dr_willisvs. Unallocated drive space  - as in C: is only a 32 gb partition.04:36
jendemikeeagles: sudo ifconfig04:37
davidejende when i open the printer config,i find the turboprinter printer config04:37
davidebut it doesn't function04:37
davidenow i'm doing other tests04:37
mikeeaglesSame info as before.04:37
jendemikeeagles: sudo lsmod04:38
jendeis the acx module loaded?04:38
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mikeeaglesIT shows acx in the usbcore line04:39
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craftycornerhello04:39
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jendemikeeagles: okay04:40
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davidejende04:40
davideso04:40
davidei was able to let the printing starting04:41
davideGOOD04:41
jendedavide: yeah, well done04:41
Igor_V2hi...anybody knows a website to get subtitles? :T04:41
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davidebut when it starts, it prints at the end the logo of "turboprint purchase"04:41
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craftycornerI updated my sources.list.  what's the command for getting my mp3's going?04:42
jendecraftycorner: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:42
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craftycornerthanks04:43
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jendemikeeagles: so, can you pastebin just the bit which is in /etc/network/interaces re the Wlan entry, if I'm not asking foor toooo much *g*04:43
craftycornerE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate04:44
craftycornerjende, can we talk private?04:44
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jendecraftycorner: just pastebin your sources.list04:45
SHRIKEEhi all04:45
jende!paste04:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:45
Jucato!pastebin04:45
SHRIKEE*question* ^^04:45
Jucatolol04:45
jendeJucato: howdy, you're back04:46
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mikeeaglesAnd where do I find this /etc/network/intefaces?04:46
ubuntu_!list04:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:47
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jende_mikeeagles: sorry, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces04:47
SHRIKEEanyone know where i can make things like  work?04:47
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jende_Jucato: where have you been?04:49
SHRIKEE...04:49
Jucato1) sleeping, 2) played for a while04:49
Jucato(notice there was no "dinner" in between)04:49
jende_Jucato: and no dinner???poor bugger..hehehe04:50
craftycorner /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER04:50
SHRIKEEanyone know where i can make things like  work?04:50
Jucatojende_: physically hungry, but no appetite to eat anything...04:50
jende_Jucato: I know that feeling just way to good04:51
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davidejende sorry04:52
jende_davide: yep...04:52
davidethere is a way to take the driver of turboprinter04:52
Jucato...04:52
davideand using them to start a new configuration04:52
jende_davide: what do you mean?04:52
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27480/ was my result04:52
davidei mean that04:53
davidethis turboprint makes operate my printer04:53
davidebut04:53
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jende_craftycorner: I don't need the result, I need the sources.list04:53
jende_craftycorner: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:53
davideat the end of the printing it shows a message "This is Turboprint...to print without this logo purchase a license.."04:53
davidenow04:54
davideif i discover where turboprint writes drivers04:54
davidei can use those drivers04:54
davidefor another configuration04:54
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27481/04:54
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jende_davide: well, I'd say if you need the printer I would simply purchase the Linux Version which isn't expensive anyway04:54
jende_craftycorner: your sources.list is wrong04:55
davidebut paying is the only way?04:55
craftycornerhow do I get it right04:55
jende_craftycorner: I'll correct it and you can modify it with kate, give me a minute to modify it04:55
davidewith the money i have to spend,i can buy another printer04:56
craftycornerthank you04:56
mikeeagleshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27482/04:56
craftycornerdavide, you can do a windows/linux dual boot if you can't afford a 2nd printer and have windows laying about04:56
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davideyes04:57
davideit's a solution04:57
craftycornerwhat i had to do04:57
davidebut i wanted to delete winzoz04:57
davideand to let operative my Ubuntu04:57
craftycornerso did i, but my hardwaer wouldn't play ball04:57
davidebut i think it's not possible now04:57
jende_craftycorner: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27483/04:57
davidejende04:57
SHRIKEEanyone know where i can make things like  work??04:57
jende_davide: you can do that online04:58
davidethank you for everything04:58
craftycornernp04:58
davideyou're a friend!04:58
jende_davide: go to www.turboprint.info04:58
jende_davide: I'm just trying to help a bit04:58
jende_craftycorner: see the difference?04:58
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craftycornerchecking04:59
jende_davide: simply purchase your version online and you can get rid of windoof04:59
DjDarkmanhy ,are the repository`s down?04:59
DjDarkmanFailed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qt4-x11/qt4-dev-tools_4.2.0-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb  404 Not Found04:59
davideeh it's the only way04:59
davidebut i want to waste other time04:59
craftycorneryea, it's only something k!04:59
davideto try to solve without paying04:59
davide;)05:00
knubbenot good. i get alot of errors while upgrading dapper->edgy05:00
craftycornerhow do i get owner as root?05:00
craftycornersays owner is other05:00
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jende_Jucato: can you have a look at mikeeagles posting @ pastebin05:00
jende_Jucato: its the 2748305:01
jende_Jucato: its the 2748205:01
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craftycornerjende, i'll get a pic of the folder in question05:01
Jucatojende_: sorry, I'm not familiar with networking :(05:01
DjDarkmanis something wrong with the repositorys or what?05:01
jende_craftycorner: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:02
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jende_craftycorner: the password you'll be asked for is the one you have configured for sudo05:02
pattiejahello05:02
craftycornerright05:03
jende_fdoving: may I ask you to have a look at mikeeagles posting @ pastebin? Need to pick up quickly something, but wont leave Mike aone05:03
pattiejais anyone using Kubuntu on Intel iMac?05:03
craftycornerok, now what05:03
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jende_craftycorner: have you modified it as I have pasted it?05:04
craftycorneryes05:04
craftycornerpasted your modified version to it and saved05:05
fdovingjende_: sure, url?05:05
jende_fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27482/05:05
jende_fdoving: thanks a lot05:05
jende_craftycorner: in a console sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:06
jende_brb05:06
pattiejaI am specifically having issues with switching users from the KDE menu (either from an already logged in user's account or from the KDM login screen) and switching virtual displays.  Whenever I attempt Ctrl-Alt-F<anything>, KDM seems to start a new login session05:06
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craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27489/05:06
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craftycornernow i can't launch kate at all05:08
jende_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27491/05:08
jende_bfn05:08
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BluesKajhey jende_, I had my network (windows) printer up and printing fine but I had to re install it . It's connected to a USB hub on my windows pc ...the test page sets up to print but then stops and freezes as if it ran out of info or something.05:09
fdovingjende_:  "i face wlan inet dhcp" is wrong should be "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" - and the 'i face' for all the other interfaces is also wrong, and should be replaced by 'iface'05:09
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fdovingjende_: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27492/05:10
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!05:10
BluesKajjende_:  I'm trying to print form my Kubuntu machine to the windows printer.05:10
MilhousePunkRockI am having a few problems with Edgy...05:10
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mikeeaglesSorry there is no space between them. I screwed that up. It's iface.05:11
BluesKajJucato: perhaps you have experience with this ?05:11
JucatoBluesKaj: I have no printer...05:11
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BluesKajbummer05:12
fdovingmikeeagles: ok, then just change wlan to wlan0 on line 17. (of the paste)05:12
MilhousePunkRockLet's start with something simple: When KDE loads, exactly at the same time as the third screenshot here: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Kubuntu%206.10%20RC05:12
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MilhousePunkRockThe screen goes all white except the icons for a moment05:12
MilhousePunkRockAfter that KDE is there05:12
chxhi. if I have /boot on one disk and / on another , can I umount & remove /boot after booting?05:12
MilhousePunkRockDoes anyone have the same issue or even a solution?05:12
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: i suspect that has something to do with RANDR.05:13
mikeeaglesSame thing with the wlan. It is wlan0.05:13
MilhousePunkRockThat's a beginning, fdoving...05:13
fdovingmikeeagles: ok, then you should be all good afaik.05:13
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MilhousePunkRockAnything I can do about it?05:13
MilhousePunkRockHey TheGateKeeper!05:13
TheGateKeeperMilhousePunkRock: Hiya05:13
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: not sure. checking..05:14
craftycornerin my root folder, there is a file.  the fact I can't open it in kate to look at it, should i worry?05:14
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: you could try asking also in #ubuntu+105:14
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craftycornerwtf did I do?05:14
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MilhousePunkRockGood idea, Jucato05:14
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: Run Commond... kdesu kate <filepath>05:14
fdovingcraftycorner: what's the filename?05:15
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jende_fdoving: I'm back05:15
mikeeaglesWhat if I uninstall the card, reboot, shut down then reinstall. Will that do anything to correct the problem?05:15
craftycornersources.list05:15
sacha_hehe05:15
jende_mikeeagles: nope, I would say05:16
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: Run Commond... kdesu kate /etc/sources.list05:16
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craftycornergot the bugger open, now I am looking at it.05:16
mikeeaglesThen I should just reinstall the whole program and forget doing a dist-upgrade.05:16
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fdovingmikeeagles: follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx11105:16
pointwoodhi, trying to upgrade to edgy rc but it fails with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27494/05:17
craftycornerI will post what it looks like05:17
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craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27495/05:17
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: what's the problem?05:17
craftycornerthat's in the root directory05:17
craftycornermaking sure i don't got one05:17
craftycornercuz my mp3's won't play05:18
craftycornernor will my mp4's or other non-free codecs05:18
craftycornerand it's too snug in this drive for noncompressed files05:19
mikeeaglesThanks for the help. I don't see how that will help since it worked perfectly until I did dist-upgrade but I'll look at it.05:19
MilhousePunkRockpointwood: Does it really fail or does it just give the errors? perl and the locales were a little troublesome when I upgraded to edgy05:19
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: I use amarok using xine engine & libxine-extracodecs05:19
pointwoodMilhousePunkRock: check last lines05:19
craftycorneramorok won't play the codecs, how do i get it to do so?05:19
fdovingmikeeagles: i suggest reading through it before doing anything, there are some tips & tricks at the bottom iirc.05:19
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: what have you installed?05:20
pointwoodMilhousePunkRock: it seems to be a problem with x1105:20
MilhousePunkRock!multimedia > craftycorner05:20
MilhousePunkRockDid you try to update that manually, pointwood?05:20
jende_mikeeagles: It'll help cause it seems to be that the acx_xxx driver in Dapper is buggy05:20
pointwoodnope05:20
jende_mikeeagles: If only I would have found that site, a big thanks to fdoving05:21
jende_fdoving: thank you, what a nice Wiki05:21
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MilhousePunkRockpointwood: I doubt anyone upgraded without errors in just one turn... ;-)05:21
jende_fdoving: that explains a lot, though05:21
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craftycornerdo I got everyting in my sources.list for all this?05:21
craftycornerso I can use my synaptic to grab packages?05:22
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: you haven't told me what you have already instaled05:22
MilhousePunkRock!easysource05:22
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:22
jende_craftycorner: your sources is wrong!05:22
pointwoodMilhousePunkRock: that might be true and I don't consider that to be positive ;)05:23
craftycorner?05:23
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hyperabattoir?05:23
jende_craftycorner: you have copied simply all the lines of pastebin even within the numbers05:23
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craftycornerI don't understand05:23
MilhousePunkRockpointwood: Well, I was really looking forward to edgy due to some trouble with my GFX chip and the old kernel, but it's no better now05:23
jende_craftycorner: and the numbers are the problem05:23
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MilhousePunkRockabattoir is eating, will be back in about 20 minutes05:24
craftycornerget rid of the numbers?05:24
mikeeaglesThat site deals with an acx111 based device and I don't get the expected output when I run the check.05:24
jende_craftycorner: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:24
craftycornerstill open05:24
pointwoodMilhousePunkRock: dpkg -i <package> seems to give me the same error05:24
pointwoodincluding the perl stuff05:24
jende_craftycorner: what you'll see is that each line begins with a number starting with"1"05:24
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jende_craftycorner: am I right?05:25
MilhousePunkRockdid you try dpkg-reconfigure -a05:25
craftycornerright05:25
MilhousePunkRockI had to do that after a failed upgrade05:25
craftycornerget rid of those?05:25
jende_craftycorner: delete them05:25
craftycornerok05:25
jende_craftycorner: safe the file, close kate05:26
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MilhousePunkRockpointwood: You could try apt-get -upgrade xwhatever -f05:26
pointwoodMilhousePunkRock: trying the reconfigure one now - the -f doesn't change anything05:27
craftycornerok, saving file, closing kate05:27
jende_open a console05:27
craftycorneropen05:27
MilhousePunkRocktbh, I am anything else but an expert, I only know that steered around the errors for me, pointwood05:27
craftycornerkonsol open05:27
jende_craftycorner: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:27
Jucato(sudo apt-get update first if he modified anything in sources.list)05:28
jende_Jucato: right05:28
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27496/05:28
jende_craftycorner: you forgot the update, as said earlier05:29
jende_craftycorner: sudo apt-get update05:29
craftycornertell me how05:29
craftycornergot game now05:29
craftycornernow we do the codecs,05:30
craftycornersame probs05:30
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories05:30
MilhousePunkRock!easysource < craftycorner05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easysource < craftycorner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
MilhousePunkRock!easysource > craftycorner05:31
MilhousePunkRockThis way... :-D05:31
Jucatohm...05:31
mikeeaglesThanks, jende. Take care.05:31
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Jucatothis line is my biggest concern: "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or. is only available from another source"05:32
jende_mikeeagles: I'm quite sure that once you have followed the Wiki you'll be more than just fine05:32
TheGateKeeper!libxine-extracodecs05:32
jende_mikeeagles: even with updates & upgrades05:32
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB05:32
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MilhousePunkRockhow do I look up which version of a package I have installed again?05:33
jende_TheGateKeeper: multiverse is enabled05:33
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: apt-cache policy <package>05:33
HawkwindMilhousePunkRock: dpkg -l package05:33
craftycornerhow do I add these to my sources.list?05:33
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jende_craftycorner: they are already in there05:33
Jucatoer.. yeah that too05:33
Jucatohi Hawkwind05:33
mikeeaglesI'm not wired for this. Thanks anyway.05:33
HawkwindJucato: Morning05:34
Jucatoevening! :)05:34
jende_mikeeagles: you're in the states right?05:34
TheGateKeeperJucato:  pop this into konqueror ---> apt:/show?libxine-extracodecs05:34
mikeeaglesRight.05:34
JucatoHawkwind: do you think it might be a connection problem?05:34
jende_mikeeagles: in NYC?05:34
craftycornerok, so I um can play the mp3's?05:34
Jucatocraftycorner's problem05:34
mikeeaglesPA05:34
TheGateKeeperhiya Hawkwind05:34
JucatoTheGateKeeper: err.. why me?05:34
jende_mikeeagles: PA=Philadelphia?05:34
HawkwindJucato: I'd really like to see his sources.list put into http://pastebin.ulteo.us05:34
HawkwindTheGateKeeper: Hey there05:35
mikeeaglesI'm from Philly but I live in Williamsport.05:35
jende_mikeeagles: I see, just a sec05:35
JucatoHawkwind: jende_ says the sources.list is ok. but he's getting this error message:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27496/05:35
grayeulI'm having a problem with EdgyBeta on Dell Precision M65... anyone else seen this?05:35
mikeeaglesFrom big city to small town. No resources around here.05:35
TheGateKeeperJucato: 'this line is my biggest concern' etc etc05:35
jende_mikeeagles: have a look http://www.phillylinux.org/05:36
JucatoTheGateKeeper: oh I think he already has the correct repos (multiverse) according to jende_05:36
jende_mikeeagles: a Linux Group has helped me a lot, when I started05:36
craftycornergrabbing updates05:36
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Can you please paste your entire sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us  for all of us to see05:36
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TheGateKeeperJucato: I thought you had a concern?05:37
jende_mikeeagles: is that an idea?05:37
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JucatoTheGateKeeper: that concern was regarding craftycorner's problem05:37
yokobranyone there hava an asus mobo??05:37
TheGateKeeperJucato: ahh05:37
Hawkwindyokobr: I do.  I have the ASUS P4P800E-Deluxe05:37
JucatoTheGateKeeper: sorry for the confusion. lots of traffic today05:37
TheGateKeeperJucato: np :-)05:37
craftycornerhttp://pastebin.ulteo.us/17005:38
mikeeaglesThanks. I'm usually only in Philly on weekends to visit my mom. Their meetings are during the week.05:38
grayeulDell M65?  Hanging up when trying to 'install' after copying files.....05:38
yokobri have a k8vse-deluxe.....i trying to get an IDE Emulation....becauso some systems doesnt see my sata hd.....how can i do that?!05:38
JucatoHawkwind: craftycorner> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/17005:38
jende_mikeeagles: so during the week you are where?05:38
Hawkwindcraftycorner: That definitely looks correct05:39
craftycornerthank you jende for decootifying my computer05:39
craftycornerI am learning a lot05:39
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Have you done sudo apt-get update at all since adding the new repos ?05:39
mikeeaglesI appreciate all your help. I'm in Williamsport, 3 hours away. I get to Philly about once a month.05:39
craftycornerI jsut did a major grab of updates05:39
Hawkwindcraftycorner: If it's done, then try the sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:39
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mikeeaglesI'll try to reinstall it and skip the dist update and see what I can learn from there.05:40
jende_mikeeagles: If I'd be you I would get with them in contact to see whether there is a LUG nearby Williamsport05:40
craftycornerE: Invalid operation updatesudo05:40
Hawkwindcraftycorner: What did you type ?05:41
Jucatocraftycorner: sudo apt-get update05:41
mikeeaglesI checked and Harisburg area is the closest.05:41
Hawkwindcraftycorner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:41
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Copy and paste that exactly as I typed it05:41
craftycornerno, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:41
craftycornerand got that wierd reply05:41
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Then you typed something incorrectly05:42
craftycornerI did cut and paste!  I didn't type05:42
jende_mikeeagles: maybe one of there members is close to Williamsport?05:42
mikeeaglesI'll check.05:42
jende_mikeeagles: sounds good!05:42
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27499/05:42
MilhousePunkRockHow do I find out at what date a file was created?05:43
yokobri have a k8vse-deluxe.....i trying to get an IDE Emulation....becauso some systems doesnt see my sata hd.....how can i do that?!05:43
jende_craftycorner: you're jokin, aren't you?05:43
mikeeaglesLOL I just realized I was mikeeagles again.05:43
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: As I said, you typed it wrong05:43
Jucatoerr....05:43
Jucatolol05:43
Hawkwindcraftycorner: You forgot a space between update and sudo05:43
craftycorner?05:43
Hawkwindsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:43
HawkwindJust like that, with the && and everything05:43
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ubotuAnnouncement from my owner (Seveas): TheFridge05:43
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HawkwindHere is what you typed:  craftycorner@craftycorner:~$ sudo apt-get updatesudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:44
mikeeaglesGL all.05:44
HawkwindNotice the 'updatesudo'05:44
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_alexHi ! This is not a kubntu question but can anyone do a whois on google.com ? Don't know what happended to it ... Thanks05:44
Hawkwind_alex: That output is normal05:44
Hawkwind_alex: Ignore it05:44
MilhousePunkRockwhy dont you do a whois on whois.org?05:45
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_alexHawkwind: Normal ?! What do you mean ?05:45
hazard2arg!05:45
HawkwindHowever, that really should be taken to #Kubuntu-OffTopic since it's not Kubuntu related05:45
craftycornersudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:45
craftycorneris that correct?05:45
hazard2Why does the built in automounter fail to mount USB drives?05:45
_alexHawkwind: Go there ...05:45
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Yes05:45
hazard2autofs works, but the built in one fails.05:46
craftycornersame answer05:46
Hawkwind_alex: I have no need.  I know what the whois information shows.  It's 100% normal05:46
MilhousePunkRockDoes someone have a vanilla hibernate.conf perhaps?05:46
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Same answer ??05:46
craftycorneryes05:46
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Paste the command you did and the output05:46
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jende_craftycorner: thats pretty much impossible, I'd say05:46
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Seems you aren't copying the && which you need to05:46
_alexHawkwind: I just meant I go to the offtopic chan ... ("go there" meant that :)05:46
Hawkwind_alex: I have no need to go there05:46
craftycornerI copied exactly what I pasted here!05:47
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Please put it into pastebin05:47
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craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27500/05:47
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Please paste the output of lsb_release -a05:48
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craftycorner? I'm very new, have no idea what your trying to say05:48
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craftycornergimmie the wole command05:48
Jucatocraftycorner: "lsb_release -a"05:48
Hawkwindcraftycorner: lsb_release -a05:48
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HawkwindType that and then paste it to http://pastebin.ulteo.us05:49
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Zerb_Rissdoes anyone know why Adept in Edgy is showing 39 upfgrade candidates but holding them all back?05:49
JucatoZerb_Riss: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might give you more descriptive error messages05:50
craftycornersudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs lsb_release -a05:50
HawkwindZerb_Riss: Try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade from a terminal05:50
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Jucatoer no05:50
Jucatocraftycorner: no05:50
craftycornerthen what05:50
Hawkwindcraftycorner: I need the output of the command:  lsb_release -a05:50
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Jucatojust that one command05:50
Hawkwindlsb_release -a  <~~Type that exactly05:50
jende_craftycorner: just and only: lsb_release -a05:50
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Type it into your terminal of course05:50
Zerb_RissJucato: dist-upgrade says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded.05:51
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27501/05:51
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Zerb_RissHawkwind: see above05:51
Zerb_Rissupgrade does the same05:51
JucatoZerb_Riss: anything else after that?05:51
Zerb_Rissno05:51
JucatoO_o05:51
Zerb_Rissit just says "The following packages have been kept back:"05:51
Zerb_Rissand lists them05:51
Zerb_Rissit appears to be mainly python packages05:51
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Ok, here's your problem actually05:52
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JucatoZerb_Riss: you might be able to get some answers in #ubuntu+105:52
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Open up your /etc/apt/sources.list again with sudo, and remove every instance of us.  from the us.archive.ubuntu.com05:52
Hawkwindcraftycorner: So it needs to look like this:  archive.ubuntu.com  *not* us.archive.ubuntu.com05:52
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: Does that make sense ?05:53
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jende_Hawkwind: I think one of us should do that for craftycorner05:53
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/17105:54
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: That's what your sources.list *should* look like05:54
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: You with me ?05:55
craftycornerI'm gonna paste dump what my sources looks like now ok?05:55
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: Ok, that's fine05:55
Hawkwindjende_: For future reference, and I over looked it totally, us. doesn't have libxine-extracodecs it seems05:56
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craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27504/05:56
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Perfect!05:56
Jucatolooks good05:56
Hawkwindcraftycorner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:56
jende_Hawkwind: which can be05:56
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jende_Hawkwind: Thanks mate, I'll keep that on miind, for sure05:57
Hawkwindjende_: No problem05:58
craftycornersame problem,05:58
JucatoO_o05:58
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Impossible :P05:58
craftycornerdoing paste dump05:58
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Paste the command you typed/copied, and *all* of it's output05:58
JucatoHawkwind: connection problem? router? firewall?05:58
HawkwindJucato: If so, he would experience it during apt-get update05:59
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27505/05:59
HawkwindHmmm, which we don't know that he's not05:59
Jucato:P05:59
Hawkwindcraftycorner: sudo apt-get update     Then paste bin all of that output, the entire thing please05:59
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josh_whats up people05:59
Jucatothe sky's up05:59
josh_what conf file do i need to change to be able to log into the gui as root?05:59
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MilhousePunkRockThe ceiling here06:00
Jucato!sudo06:00
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:00
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Wait!06:00
Jucatojoscha_: ^^^^^^^06:00
josh_yeah i know how to sudo06:00
josh_i want to log in to x as root06:00
jende_Hawkwind: did you have closer look at the output06:00
HawkwindYes06:00
Jucatojosh_: that page has instructions06:00
MilhousePunkRockjosh_: AFAIK you can create a real root account...06:00
Hawkwindcraftycorner: You must not have saved the file after you edited it.  It's still using the us. mirror06:00
jende_Hawkwind: it still says US06:00
fdovingjosh_: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc - 'AllowRootLogin' set it to true06:00
craftycornerI saved the file06:01
josh_ty06:01
Hawkwindcraftycorner: I don't think you did, as it's not correct06:01
Hawkwindcraftycorner: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  <~~Make sure you are editing that file06:01
fdovingjosh_: i assume you know how to enable the root account and set a password, and that you are aware of the risks of running X as root.06:01
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josh_yep06:01
josh_already have it setup and all that06:01
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T3hWiz0rdwhy would you want ot enable root on a sudoers OS?06:02
T3hWiz0rdit stops 50% of attacks dead.06:02
josh_i just dont want to have to do any sys changes (make new folders) through cli06:02
fyrmedicWhen installing a program with wine what path to the cdrom0 do I use.06:02
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: Some prefer it, including myself06:02
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: Ummmm, how so ?06:02
jende_!wine06:02
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:02
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: An OS is as secure as *you* make it06:02
craftycornerthe thing is open06:02
T3hWiz0rdHawkwind: with root gone attacks aren't as prevelent06:02
craftycornerpaste dump?06:02
josh_no06:03
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: I disagree06:03
trappistHawkwind: the point of disabling root and using sudoers is security.06:03
josh_because then they just sudo06:03
josh_then activate the root account06:03
josh_then ur screwed06:03
pacmanI have a question06:03
Jucatojosh_: you can make new folders in GUI, launch Konqueror with kdesu06:03
josh_because you didn't activate and dont have the apss now06:03
Hawkwindtrappist: A box is as secure as you make it, root or no root06:03
HawkwindYou know that better than most :P06:03
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trappistHawkwind: it's impossible to brute force root access with a disabled root account.  and whether to enable root is part of how secure you're making your OS.06:03
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Do you see any us.archives.ubuntu.com in that file ?06:03
pacmanI did an scp for some files on my buddy's server06:03
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pacmanbut I can't find where they got saved to06:04
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27506/06:04
josh_trappist: look the fact of the matter is this... not enabling sudo is like having a blank windows admin account06:04
pacmanscp pacman@idlers.us:/web/*.avi .06:04
Hawkwindtrappist: I have root enabled, but my box isn't accessible by the outside world06:04
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craftycornerdang06:04
josh_someone will just activate it and then they have root06:04
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Bingo!06:04
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: You have all the us.  still there.  You need to remove them, and *save* the file06:04
pacmananyone?06:05
MilhousePunkRockcraftycorner: Use source-o-matic...06:05
trappistHawkwind: you don't want to depend on a single layer of security (like not being *directly* accessible from the outside) for your security.  Your box is as secure as you make it, and enabling root is an act of making it ever so slightly less secure.06:05
T3hWiz0rdmmmkay, yeah, theres no advantages to not having a root account disabled.06:05
HawkwindThey got saved in /web/06:05
Jucatough.. source-o-matic...06:05
T3hWiz0rdincluding if someone gets ssh access to the system and runs rootscripts...06:05
slow-motionhallo06:06
T3hWiz0rdbut yanno, wheres the risk in it... I'm not smart after all.06:06
Hawkwindtrappist: Being connected to the internet makes it less secure06:06
trappistsure06:06
HawkwindTelling people not to disable root is stupid IMO.  It's their choice, let them do it if they choose/want06:06
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Jucatobut do tell them the reasons why it isn't enabled in the first place.06:06
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27507/  please check to make sure i did this right06:06
fdovingpacman: they got saved to the directory where you executed 'scp' from. also known as '.'06:06
T3hWiz0rdHawkwind: kubuntu comes out of the box with no root access.06:07
trappistpretty much every security decision you make is going to be a tradeoff.  enabling root makes things more convenient (maybe) and less secure.  I don't think that particular tradeoff is a very good one.06:07
HawkwindMost, not all of course, but most that enable root half know what they're doing in the first place06:07
Jucatocraftycorner: make sure you saved it :)06:07
T3hWiz0rdin an OS *like* kubuntu that isn't meant to be a choice.06:07
Hawkwindtrappist: I'm well aware of that since I run the distro06:07
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: Wrong!06:07
craftycorneri will06:07
MilhousePunkRockJucato: I agree, but if he fails to edit his sources manually for half an hour now, maybe it's the way to go for him06:07
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: Linux is *all* about choice06:07
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu is geared at simplifying things.06:07
craftycornerI hit the little floppy!06:07
Jucato*cough*offtopic*cough*06:07
T3hWiz0rdJucato: got a tickle in your throat, try some warm honey.06:07
trappistJucato: yeah06:07
Jucatosorry T3hWiz0rd.. it just seems that offtopic just springs up around you :)06:08
Hawkwindcraftycorner: So you removed all of the us. and saved the file ?06:08
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T3hWiz0rdJucato: i don't see discussing linux security to be off topic... and frankly, your sticklerism is annoying. but thats just me.06:08
pacmanfdoving: I'm not finding the files or the folder anywhere06:08
fdovingt3hwiz0rd, linux security can be offtopic in a kubuntu support channel.06:09
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T3hWiz0rdJucato: if there is going to be such a high level of anomosity in here for people trying to educate themselves and others about things that do relate to kubuntu, perhaps I need to choose an OS with a better community.06:09
craftycornerlet me try again06:09
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: where's the animosity?06:09
Hawkwindfdoving: Good catch.  I looked at the . as the punctuation as the end of the sentence.  I hate that . being part of the command :)06:09
T3hWiz0rdits not like I am talking about my gf or my car, im talking about the root account and if or if not it should be enabled on kubuntu.06:09
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Jucatofine do as you please. I'm not going to say another word06:10
craftycorneryes06:10
HawkwindT3hWiz0rd: It's about the users choice, end of discussion06:10
sacha_i need root06:10
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: So the file is correct now ?06:10
davidejende_ are you here?06:10
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sacha_i log into root every time i boot up so i can 'kdm'06:10
Hawkwindsacha_: Why do you run kdm as root ????????06:11
sacha_it wont let me run it as anything else06:11
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sacha_it tells me kdm wants root to run it06:11
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: when you boot kdm doesn't load on its own?06:11
sacha_no, i didnt choose that06:11
craftycorneri think so06:11
Hawkwindsacha_: It should start on it's own when you boot06:11
LjLT3hWiz0rd, the issue is simply that #kubuntu and #ubuntu are support channels, and as such are intended solely as places to ask and reply to support questions. Anything else goes to #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic -- that's all. Nothing personal in that, I believe.06:11
sacha_i didnt choose that option06:11
Hawkwindcraftycorner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:11
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: have you tried running sudo /et/init.d/kdm start.06:11
ubuntuI have a stupid problem... I turned the display up to 1600x1200 which my screen can't handle, how can i edit this manually ?06:11
sacha_yes sudo didnt work06:12
skhanyone have any ideas why after a system sleep/hibernate my synaptics touchpad doesnt work?  Possibly sometime wrong with my xorg.conf (altho ive mess around with this alot) or the module not loading?06:12
HawkwindLjL: Enough!  He's already been told, the discussion is over. No need to continue06:12
LjLubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:12
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sacha_it explicitly wants root to run kdm06:12
ubuntuLjL: thanks06:12
davidehey guys i installed unrar from Synaptic06:12
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T3hWiz0rdHawkwind: it seems to be ac ommunity trend. Suse is starting to sound well and better again06:12
davidebut now i cannot find this program06:12
LjLyes Hawkwind, actually i believed i had edited my line to make that a /notice, but i hadn't.06:12
davidehow i can do?06:12
Hawkwindsacha_: kdm should start on it's own during boot.  What have you done that it doesn't ?06:12
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jende_davide: whats up?06:12
sacha_i dont like it starting on its own06:12
davidehey jende06:13
davidemaybe i found a solution06:13
BonBonTheJondavide: unrar is run from the command line06:13
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Hawkwindsacha_: You shouldn't be doing it the way you are, seriously06:13
pacmanI'm just not finding the files06:13
sacha_why not?06:13
davidebut now i have to decompress a rar file06:13
T3hWiz0rdsacha_: thats not good if its asking souly for root account. Did you edit anything in init.d?06:13
craftycornerI got something different06:13
Hawkwindsacha_: You let it run on it's own when the system boots.  Then you don't have to worry about it06:13
sacha_i believe that's the way it's meant to be.. kdm is meant to be run from root06:13
BonBonTheJondavide: it should be 'unrar file.rar'06:13
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Put it into pastebin, the complete output please06:13
HawkwindBonBonTheJon: unrar e file.rar actually06:14
sacha_yeah hawkwind but sometimes i need to run stuff before i go into X, or run gnome instead or xgl instead06:14
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27508/06:14
davidebut how i can launch this program?06:14
BonBonTheJonHawkwind: ok, i've never gotten it to work, so maybe i was missing the e06:14
Hawkwindsacha_: So then kill kdm and start what you want06:14
sacha_that's pointless :P06:14
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Again, it's still using us.06:14
craftycornerthis isn't making sense, I'm saving the thing06:14
Hawkwindcraftycorner: That last command is wrong06:14
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: Type just this:      kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list06:15
sacha_gotta load kde then, ctrl+alt+f1 then kill it, then login as root and do my stuff -- i prefer to save some steps :)06:15
Hawkwindcraftycorner: That will open up a file that you should see all sorts of stuff in. Please tell me when you have that file open06:15
fdovingsacha_: you can disable kdm at boot with this command 'sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove' to re-enable it use 'sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults' (save that for later reference).06:15
BluesKajT3hWiz0rd, it's your choice but you'll regret it , yast is a PITA and everyone knows it even the biggest Suse fans know that . Just cuz you encounter a few difficulties here with your probs , we all have them and instant gratification is not for Linux users06:15
craftycornerit keeps saving more and more copies of itself06:16
sacha_fdoving, i dont have kdm as boot :)06:16
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: Then you're doing the commands wrong06:16
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sacha_and i can never predict when i want to remove it06:16
Hawkwindcraftycorner: That command I gave you will only open up /etc/apt/sources.list06:16
sacha_that's why i dont load anything for boot06:16
davideBonBonTheJon sorry i type unrar and then the name of the file06:16
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davidebut this is the message" sudo: unrar: command not found06:17
BonBonTheJondavide: try unrar by itself and see if it gives any output06:17
Hawkwinddavide: unrar e file.rar06:17
Hawkwindunrar file.rar is not a command that works06:17
Hawkwinddavide: Make sure you've got unrar installed first and foremost06:18
BonBonTheJonHawkwind: thats what I'm trying to check06:18
davideHawkwind: i installed it from Synaptic06:18
Hawkwinddpkg -l unrar  would tell you really quick06:18
davideand now i think it's installed06:18
Hawkwinddavide: Then type:  unrar e your-file.rar06:18
fdovingdavide: is the rar file owned by root?06:19
davideHawkwind: i wrote "dpkg..." and it says "no one packet it's installed"06:19
Hawkwinddavide: Replace your-file.rar with the actual name of a file06:19
davidehow is it possible?i installed it06:19
craftycornerthe us isn't in the list06:19
Hawkwinddavide: Then it's not installed06:19
Hawkwindcraftycorner: sudo apt-get update  <~~Try just that and paste your command you did, and the output06:20
BluesKaj!Windows Network Printers06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Windows Network Printers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
davideHawkwind: what's the iter from Konsole to install unrar?06:20
Hawkwinddavide: sudo apt-get install unrar06:20
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MilhousePunkRockDoes someone have a vanilla Edgy installation by any chance?06:21
Jucatodavide: make sure multiverse in enabled in order to install unrar06:21
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: pretty much, what do you need?06:21
craftycornerstring us.archive not found in kate file06:21
LjLMilhousePunkRock: i do. but edgy discussion is for #ubuntu+106:21
MilhousePunkRocki need to know what the /etc/hibernate/ folder looks like06:21
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Hawkwindcraftycorner: Save the file, and then do:  sudo apt-get update   and paste the complete output please06:21
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fdovingMilhousePunkRock: doesn't exist on my x86 edgy box.06:22
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Do you have KPowersave installed?06:23
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: it will be called #edgy soon :P06:23
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LjL!edgy06:23
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:23
fdovingi think it's close enought to be dapper+edgy :] 06:23
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davideHawkwind: i installed it,but now i did what you wrote and i don't know where it decompress files06:23
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27510/06:23
davidein what foulder?06:23
davidefolder?06:23
LjLMilhousePunkRock: i'm not making up the rules, no need for sarcasm about them. :-) anyway, if you care to join #ubuntu+1, i'll try to answer your question06:24
Hawkwinddavide: It decompresses in the directory you ran the command, or where the files were originally06:24
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: no, i don't have kpowersave installed.06:24
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: That might be it06:24
HawkwindLjL: Seems he's getting help here.  No need to push him elsewhere06:24
craftycornerany us?06:25
LjLok, then i suppose he doesn't need my help.06:25
Jucatocraftycorner: so far so good06:25
Hawkwindcraftycorner: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:25
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Jucatowhoa nalioth06:26
craftycornerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27511/06:26
Zerb_Risshow do I make it so that my user account can modify the www-data files?06:26
Zerb_Rissoh wait06:26
naliothJucato: yes?06:26
Jucatonalioth: just wanted to say hi :)06:27
fdovingZerb_Riss: add your self to the www-data group, and set group permissions to rw06:27
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Then something is wrong with your sources.list somewhere.  I'm not sure you are pasting the right file as you stated earlier it's opening a bunch of different files or something06:27
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davideHawkwind: what's the command to convert rpm in deb?06:27
Zerb_Risshow do I set group permissions?06:27
abattoirhi hyper, sorry was afk06:27
JucatoHawkwind: maybe it's time to recommend something like Automatix?06:27
Zerb_Rissdavide: alien06:27
hyperabattoir: it's ok... you play WoW?06:28
HawkwindJucato: Up to you.  I know nothing about that stuff06:28
abattoirhyper: nope06:28
Jucatoer.. nvm then...06:28
Hawkwinddavide: That is not recommended at all, it's very dangerous06:28
craftycorneryou've seen my sources.list06:28
Jucato!automatix06:28
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!06:28
HawkwindJucato: Maybe easysource ?06:28
Jucatoeither would do...06:28
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Hawkwind!easysource > craftycorner06:29
hyperabattoir: ok :) thx06:29
Hawkwindcraftycorner: Follow the information about easysource that the bot just pm'd you with06:29
davideHawkwind: i have to convert a rpm, to deb06:29
Hawkwinddavide: Why ?06:29
Hawkwinddavide: An rpm of what app exactly ?06:29
davidebecause there are drivers06:29
davidedriver for printe06:30
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craftycornerum, what's the latest kubuntu06:30
Jucatocraftycorner: Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)06:30
Hawkwinddavide: You could use 'alien' but be forewarned, it's very dangerous. I'd try to find drivers in a different format like .tar.gz or something06:30
Jucatoor 6.06.1, just the same06:30
craftycornerand the computer?06:30
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craftycornerI've a celeron, that's right06:31
Hawkwindcraftycorner: If it gives you the options of mirrors, please do *not* use the us. mirror.  Pick something like se. or something06:31
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abattoircraftycorner: i386 is the architecture then06:32
jende_Hawkwind: or .de06:32
Jucatode. :P06:32
HawkwindAnything besides us. :P06:32
trappistdavide: if I'm faced with having to deal with an rpm, I use rpm2cpio | cpio to just extract the contents06:33
naliothJucato: 'whoa' is how you tell a horse to stop.  :)06:33
Jucatonalioth: heheh wouldn't know. I don't ride horses. :)06:34
Hawkwindnalioth: I hope he wasn't trying to insinuate anything when he said that then :P06:34
craftycornerhow do I download this sucker06:34
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jende_craftycorner: what do you want to DL though?06:34
abattoircraftycorner: ummm... what are you trying to download? an iso image?06:35
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craftycornerhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:35
craftycornerfix my um source.list06:35
fdovingMilhousePunkRock: do you have the 'hibernate' package installed? that's the one putting stuff in /etc/hibernate06:35
davideYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH06:35
davideol06:35
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Most likely, let me check06:35
davidefinally06:35
davideafter 4 days06:36
davidemy Canon i250 fonctions!!06:36
craftycornerno, trying to fix my sourcelist using that url06:36
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abattoircraftycorner: click on 'Give me a sources.list'06:36
TheGateKeepercraftycorner: follow this guide then maybe you will get somewhere ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories06:36
davidethanks to everyone06:36
craftycornerah ok06:36
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davidethank you jende_06:36
jende_davide: it works?06:36
abattoircraftycorner: it should open kate, along w/ the new sources.list... as root, backup your old sources.list, and the paste this there06:37
davidejende_: yes it works!!!06:37
jende_craftycorner: all you have to do at source-o-matic is to tick some boxes06:37
abattoircraftycorner: tell me when the window opens up...06:37
MilhousePunkRockfdoving: Yeah, I have it... How do I find out if it's "old or new" now?06:37
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davidejende_: i create a key to let the printer work06:38
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craftycornerI didn't back up my old source list, but it was busted anyway06:38
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jende_davide: good, so your prob is solved06:38
davideyes06:38
Jucato1 down, 1 to go...06:38
jende_Jucato: what???06:39
davidejende_: after 3 days of hell,we finally solved!06:39
Jucato1 problem down, 1 to go06:39
craftycornerthe window opened, I opened kate, cut and paste and saved a new source list06:39
abattoircraftycorner: ok, do a 'sudo apt-get update' now, in a terminal...06:40
hazard2is there 'skins' in kubuntu?06:40
abattoircraftycorner: the 'busted' sources.list was your only problem? or were you wanting to do something that it was hindering?06:40
craftycornerI gott a go06:40
hazard2bye crafty06:40
Jucatoabattoir: he was trying to install libxine-extracodecs...06:40
Hawkwindabattoir: He's been trying to install libxine-extracodecs06:40
jende_folks, I'll be gone for a lil  while!06:41
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jende_See ya all later, I hope06:41
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davidesee you jende_06:41
davide;)06:41
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jende_davide: see ya06:42
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josh_who uses k3b in here?06:42
TheGateKeeperjosh_: guilty as charged lol06:42
josh_can you burn a cd using mp3's?06:43
josh_mine wont let me....06:43
apokryphosyes06:43
josh_complaining about unsupported format06:43
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apokryphosjosh_: you need k3b-mp306:43
josh_rgr06:43
Jucatolibk3b-mp306:43
apokryphosit's in the FAQ, actually06:43
Jucato!mp306:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:43
Jucatojoscha_: it's somewhere there, together with libxine-extracodecs06:43
Jucatoer.. josh_06:44
Jucatosorry joscha_06:44
apokryphos!find k3b06:44
ubotuFound: k3b, libk3b2, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2-mp306:44
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apokryphosthere06:44
Jucato!libk3b2-mp306:44
ubotulibk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB06:44
Jucatothat one06:44
josh_thank you very much guys :)06:45
josh_now i can burn the daughters cd lol06:45
Jucatoer... I just misread that...06:46
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Acidic32!adept-crash-fix06:49
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"06:49
ubuntuim installing ubuntu from the live CD. The partitions are all set, how do I set which one is gonna be used to install it??06:50
apokryphosubuntu: set the / mount point for it06:50
ubuntuwhere?06:50
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apokryphosubuntu: well, click something like edit or whatever, and edit the mount point of the partition, and set it as /06:51
ubuntuthere is no button labeled mount06:51
ubuntuno edit06:51
apokryphosmount point, it's somewhere there06:51
apokryphosfor the given partition you'll have to format it as ext306:52
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ubuntuIm seeing a button named PROPERTY06:53
ubuntuit just shows the partition info06:53
ubuntunothing to edit06:54
Acidic32is there a button saying Partition?06:54
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ubuntuno06:54
Acidic32mm06:54
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JucatoI think the option to mount the different folders comes after editing the partition table06:54
ubuntuim using the live CD06:54
TheGateKeeperubuntu: if you do a manual partition it will ask which partition is to be used for swap, root, home etc06:55
Acidic32it doest06:55
Jucato(after pressing the Next button)06:55
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ubuntuok06:55
ubuntuIm seeing the mounting point now06:55
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hammercpk2: hi07:03
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Kunrubuhow do I enable ident in Konversation?07:04
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_roberthi, where I discuss problems with the kde 3.5.5 dapper packages?07:07
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ubuntuhi07:11
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ubuntuanyone there07:12
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samuel__does kubuntu come with firefox?07:20
MasterEvilAceno i don't believe so but you can d/l it using apt-get07:21
_robertyou can install it07:21
Jucatosamuel__: no but you can install it07:21
_robertbut its not installed by default07:21
samuel__sweet07:21
_robertps: where I discuss problems with the kde 3.5.5 dapper packages?07:21
_robertsamuel: ubuntu/kubuntu use the same repositories07:21
samuel__how do you update kubuntu?07:21
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Acidic32!wmv07:22
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:22
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_roberton the console with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade  ... and apt-get install firefox for installing it07:22
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_robert!kde07:22
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE07:22
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joe__hello all07:25
mimilsalut tout le monde07:26
MasterEvilAceanyone have probs with special keys on laptops now? Dell Inspiron 8000 is what I have. Before, the volume keys worked perfectly fine out of the box. I've been doing upgrades maybe daily. and i noticed those keys don't work anymore. i've been able to xmodmap the buttons and then i can SET them in kmix, but after i save changes.. it's like the keys don't work anymore.. and they're not detected at all07:26
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drackIs there a way to change audio drivers without recompiling the kernel?07:38
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drackmplayer thinks there's something wrong witht hem, and apps that use OSS have a lot of static with their sounds07:38
drackfor reference, I'm running Kubuntu Edgy on an Acer Ferrari 4005 ... For sound it uses atiixp module07:39
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sykehi07:51
sykeI just did a dist-upgrade, which attempted to isntall koffice 1.607:51
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sykeand I got this error:07:51
sykeUnpacking replacement xinit ...07:51
sykeErrors were encountered while processing:07:51
syke /var/cache/apt/archives/krita_1%3a1.6.0-0ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb07:51
sykeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:51
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fildo!pastebin > syke07:52
soulrideryea07:52
jende_Hi folks ;-)07:52
soulridertry to use the pastebin07:52
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sykefor 4 lines? is that a "large" paste?07:52
soulriderim sorry. but since i dont use koffice i dont know what that could have been07:52
soulridertea07:52
sykeis this channel really high traffic right now?07:52
soulrideryeah*07:52
sykeis the limit 3 lines?07:52
syke2 lines?07:52
syke1 line?07:52
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soulriderwell, anythign that takes a couple of lines or more should go there :P07:52
jende_syke: we had the whole day high traffic07:52
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sykeok07:53
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sykeanyways, it looks like the koffice 1.6 packages supplied on kubuntu.org are broken07:53
sykewho should I email/contact to notify them?07:54
soulrideruhm07:54
sykeor is there someone in this channel?07:54
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soulriderits been released for a few days now07:54
soulridermaybe its just you07:54
jende_syke: the Koffice team07:54
sykesoulrider: that's possible07:54
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jende_syke: basically browse the bugs archive if its just you, or if the prob you just had is already known07:54
ElectrolyteWell I won't sodding bother with XGL then.07:54
ElectrolyteSince the packages on the repository break each other07:55
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jende_syke: I just installed for the fun of it KOffice on edgy and it works just fine08:00
sykeI'm using dapper08:00
jende_syke: the official release will be next friday08:00
sykeofficial release of..?08:01
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jende_syke: I know that you're on Dapper, but if there was an issue/bug it seems to be that it got fixed - at least for Koffice in Edgy08:01
jende_syke: the official Release of Edgy...;)08:02
sykeoh08:02
sykecool08:02
sykewill that be supported under my canonical support?08:02
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jende_syke: think so08:02
sykeand will it be shipping with kde 3.5.5 so that more ajax-y sites work properly?08:03
jende_syke: yep it'll come with KDE 3.5.508:03
sykeawesome08:03
_robertwhere I discuss problems with the new kde 3.5.5 dapper packages?08:03
jende__robert: depends08:03
jende__robert: what is the prob?08:04
TheGateKeeperjende_: they manged to get it to go any quicker, either booting up, or starting apps?08:04
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jende_TheGateKeeper: isn't that really also a question of the Hardware one uses08:04
_robertthe kmail crashes at some imap problems on kubuntu. I tried to reproduce it on a suse and works there without any problem08:04
_robertthere is even an bug report from someone else. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13594808:05
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sykerobert: I had kmail crash quite often before I updated to KDE 3.5.308:05
TheGateKeeperjende_: try arch linux & then tell me it's hardware lol08:05
_robertbut as I said I can reproduce that only on kubuntu08:05
sykewhat version of kde are you running?08:05
_robert3.5.508:05
jende_syke: never used KMail and still wont08:05
sykehm, weird08:05
jende_TheGateKeeper: you might have got me wrong, I guess08:05
_robertthe 3.5.4 worked for days without crash08:05
sykejende: um, good for you. wanta cookie?08:05
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sykerobert: is the stack trace sane?08:06
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jende_syke: a coffe would be nice08:06
sykedepending on compiler, libc, etc the memory layout would be different and corruption may not cause a crash in SuSe08:06
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TheGateKeeperjende_: kubuntu has many nice attributes but unfortunately speed ain't one of them, unless thay have managed to improve the situation with edge08:07
_robertsyke: I just try to get the error with an strace running08:07
_robertbut now it just doesn't crash ;-)08:07
sykewhat about running it under gdb?08:07
sykegah, I hate it when that happens ;)08:07
sykeyou could also rebuild the package with symbols08:07
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siimoni love ya guys <3<3<308:08
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_robertsyke: before joining the channel it crashed 2 times in 10 min .. but now .. .arg08:09
_robertbut I'll stay at it and paste a line if it crashed again08:09
_robertand I can confirm the stacktrace08:10
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klerfaytwhere is kmenu config file hidden?08:10
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orient2000I am lost. I can not fix xserver and I run only in a text mode. Would full upgrade solve this problem? I do not want to loose my data.08:12
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zorglu_klerfayt: 'strace kmenuedit' :)08:12
drackHow do you install w32codecs under edgy?  "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" says Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:12
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firephotoklerfayt: you mean the settings for the app or the menu entries you've added/changed?08:12
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klerfaytfirephoto: I would like to delete kmenu config file08:13
klerfaytfirephoto: and use default08:13
firephotoklerfayt: any menu entry changed is in is in ~/.local/applications, the kmenuedit config is in ~/.kde/share/config/08:14
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klerfaytfirephoto: I'm in ~/.kde/share/config but I don't see kmenu config there08:15
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firephotoklerfayt: kmenueditrc08:15
TheGateKeeperorient2000: is xserver the issue or xorg.conf?08:16
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klerfaytfirephoto: I got only "SplitterSizes=240,307" here; but how did wine entry occur then if it is not here?08:17
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firephotoklerfayt: you need to look in ~/.local/applications and clean that up if you want to remove stuff manually.08:17
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TheGateKeeperorient2000: have you tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall ??08:18
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klerfaytfirephoto: I tried deleting ~/.wine folder but menu enties are still there and there are no applications in ~/.local08:18
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firephotoklerfayt: ~/.kde/share/applnk08:19
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firephotoklerfayt: wine (and others) store links in there. i forgot about that one.08:19
klerfaytfirephoto: thanks I see them08:19
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firephotoklerfayt: you should be able to right click the menu item too and edit to remove those too.08:20
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orient2000I tried everything08:22
orient2000I have no other option but reinstall it all.08:22
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firephotodrack: you need the plf repos08:23
drackfirephoto, ok what linedo I need to add to sources.list?08:23
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Hawkwinddeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free08:25
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drackThank you Hawkwind08:25
HawkwindYep08:25
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firephotodoes that still work for dapper? the edgy one changed.08:26
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chowsapalhmm i was under the impression that knetworkmanager was integrated with wpasupplicant08:27
chowsapalbut i'm not getting a WPA option when i go to join a network08:27
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chowsapali'm using a netgear MA521 pci card08:27
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chowsapali guess i'm also wondering which driver that uses for wpasupplicant08:28
TheGateKeeperorient2000: give me something to go on08:28
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Joel-WidemanI have a Belkin wireless network card (PCI) and it was working up until I did a full upgrade. Kubuntu doesn't even see the card. Any ideas?08:29
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jende_orient2000: there might be no need to reinstall08:30
jende_Joel-Wideman: what chipset does the Belkin have?08:30
TheGateKeeperorient2000: have you tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall yes or no  ??08:32
Joel-WidemanNot sure - there's a part # on the box: F5D700008:32
jende_Joel-Wideman: lspci will tell you that08:32
jende_Joel-Wideman: Part# dont say anything08:32
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Joel-Widemanlspci just says it's an unknown device08:33
orient2000I used easyubuntu and it installed ati drivers and then i downloaded somexserver files without knowing whot they are. Some server was down and download did not comlete. After that I reboot and my xserver does not come up anymore. Error opening /dev/wacom : no such file or directory could not open default cursor font 'cursor' *(RADEON.....08:33
jende_Joel-Wideman: if you don't know what I'm lookin' for just pastebin the output of lspci08:33
jende_!pastebin08:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:33
zorglu_!baddevice08:33
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.008:33
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zorglu_orient2000: you may try the above link about /dev/wacom08:34
kUbuntuI deleted /tmp instead of /tmp/* and can\t login anymore08:34
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zorglu_q. is there any regular helper with some free time. i got some simple idea to speedup the help here08:35
Joel-WidemanIf I could paste it, jende, I wouldn't have the problem :P It's on another computer in another room08:35
zorglu_kUbuntu: use the livecd to recreate it08:35
TheGateKeeperorient2000: have you got a copy of xorg.conf before all this started?08:35
kUbuntuzorglu_: I tried creating mkdir /tmp but that didn\t help08:36
kUbuntuzorglu_: I think I need to change the permissions of that folder_08:36
zorglu_kUbuntu: i think so too08:36
zorglu_$ ls -ld /tmp08:36
zorglu_drwxrwxrwt 15 root root 4096 2006-10-20 20:29 /tmp08:36
zorglu_kUbuntu: note the 't' at the end08:36
kUbuntuzorglu_: ? I don\t understand08:37
jende_Joel-Wideman: okay, let us see...give me the EXACT model and type of you PCI Card and I'll try to get some more information08:37
Joel-Widemanjende, it says something like: Ethernet Controller: Atheros Corp, Unknown Device: 001A (rev 1A)08:37
zorglu_kUbuntu: ask an helper to give you all the command to reach the same result i pasted08:37
zorglu_kUbuntu: sorry personnaly i dont have the time08:38
jende_Joel-Wideman: so, its an theros chipset08:38
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n8k99does anyone in here know where I can find the sound log?08:38
Joel-Widemanokay...08:38
Joel-Widemanit worked enough to upgrade over the net with adept08:39
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zorglu_Joel-Wideman: tried to use the kernel which was running before the upgrade ? it should still be available via grub08:39
Joel-WidemanI'll check08:40
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kUbuntuso I have to "sudo chmod drwxrwxrwT /tmp"?08:40
zorglu_kUbuntu: nope :) ok ill be back in 5min and give you all the commands. meanwhile launch the livecd and come here :)08:41
jende_Joel-Wideman: try these 3 steps one after the other all with SUDO08:41
jende_modprobe wlan <- this could be also wlan008:41
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kUbuntuzorglu_: but I am using livecd cause can\t login08:41
jende_modprobe ath_hal08:41
jende_modprobe ath_pci08:41
orient2000I am not sure.08:42
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jende_Joel-Wideman: then see what sudo dmesg tells you.If the card is there dmesg will tell xou that08:42
jende_Joel-Wideman: then see what sudo dmesg tells you.If the card is there dmesg will tell you that08:43
kUbuntuchmod +t /tmp ?08:43
jende_!sound08:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:43
jende_n8k99: that will help08:44
TheGateKeeperorient2000: have you looked in /etc ?08:44
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n8k99jende: i'll try that08:44
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kUbuntuhow is "drwxrwxrwt" in chmod?08:46
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Joel-Widemanjende_, thanks for the help. I guess I'll recompile the newer kernel if I want to use it.08:46
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jende_Joel-Wideeman: unfortunately I have only a german wiki, but still it could help you08:48
jende_Joel-Wideman: wanna have it?It's a wiki re atheros wlan08:48
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Joel-Widemanjende_, sure, why not08:48
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jende_http://www.schokilade.de/doku.php?id=linux:wlan08:49
Joel-Widemanthanks, that should help if I need it08:49
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zorglu_hmm kUbuntu is more there08:50
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Frederickfolks wich is the package I need to install to have full opengl libs support? I want glut and GL libs08:56
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jende_!opengl08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
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jende_!open gl08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about open gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
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rawrness!anything08:57
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:57
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Frederickjende_: draft1.c:2:19: error: GL/GL.h: No such file or directory08:58
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jende_Frederick: you're on Dapper?08:58
Frederickjende_: yes08:58
zorglu_apt-cache search GL.h provides weird results08:59
ElectrolyteCan anyone explain how I can add text after the KMenu icon? Can't find anything on Google to do it.09:00
TheGateKeeperzorglu_: as in 3D racing game?09:00
zorglu_TheGateKeeper: yep, and especially no library09:00
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TheGateKeeperzorglu_: you got synaptic?09:01
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zorglu_TheGateKeeper: nope, why ?09:01
jende_Frederick: you have a nvidia graphik-board?09:02
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TheGateKeeperzorglu_: it's a gui package manager with a nice little search facility might help you find what you are looking for quicker, or you could try putting apt:/ into konqueror09:03
Frederickjende_: I do09:03
TheGateKeeperzorglu_: if you use Firefox that also has a package search facility09:03
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zorglu_TheGateKeeper: is it possible to query the package based on the file they provides ? like gimme the packages which provides the file /usr/include/limits.h ?09:04
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jende_Frederick: so, you should get the required libraries from NVidia as they should09:05
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TheGateKeeperzorglu_: there probable is a way but I don't know off the top of my head how you would do it, one thing for sure is that it will be a *-dev package09:06
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zorglu_ok09:07
TheGateKeeperzorglu_: put limits.h into google see if anything that comes back makes sence09:08
zorglu_it is more to learn how to do it, more than getting this particular file :)09:08
Frederickback09:08
jende_Frederick: so, you should get the required libraries from NVidia as they should09:08
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Frederick2:19: error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory09:10
jende_Frederick: sorry, ut couldn't more to help you09:10
jende_Frederick: sorry, but couldn't find more to help you09:10
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mimilbonjour tout le monde09:11
jende_!fr09:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:11
mimily a des francais ?09:11
TheGateKeeperzorglu_: well there are things like dpkg -l | grep <partial package name>09:11
jende_!fr09:11
mimilc'est quoi !fr ?09:12
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hammerhi everybody!09:12
jende_mimil09:12
jende_!fr09:12
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:12
zorglu_mimil, cest un channel ou lon parle anglais09:12
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TheGateKeeperzorglu_: the various other methods I have given you for searching for a package09:12
mimilmince09:12
theresahallo! is there a german kubuntu channel?09:12
zorglu_!de09:12
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:12
jende_!de09:12
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zorglu_TheGateKeeper: ok, i will read the doc more in depth09:13
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jende_theresa: was ist denn dein Prob09:13
rawrness!ja09:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:14
TheGateKeeperzorglu_: if you come up with a good answer let me know :-)09:14
zorglu_TheGateKeeper: ok :)09:14
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lupine_85hehe09:15
NightBirdyeay newegg!09:16
Ash-FoxNo, it really isn't funny. I have important things todo and it's down09:16
hammerhow dom i launch newly installed programms without rebooting?09:16
hammer*do09:16
Ash-Foxhammer, alt + f209:16
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HawkwindAsh-Fox: Get used to SF being down.  I'd switch my stuff over to Google Code if it's that important as SF is down more than it's ever up09:17
NightBirdwhat program requires you to reboot?09:17
hammerAsh-Fox: in slack it was better =(09:17
Hawkwindhammer: alt-f2 or click it from the menus09:17
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TheGateKeeperAsh-Fox: looks ok to me give me a url09:17
hammerNightBird: i mean they apper in menu after kde restart09:17
Ash-FoxTheGateKeeper, www.aros.org09:17
NightBirdreally? huh09:17
hammer*appear09:17
Hawkwindhammer: kbuildsycoca  will update your menus09:17
Ash-FoxAnd yes, that's hosted on SF's servers.09:18
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Hawkwindhammer: Then you don't have to restart KDE09:18
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hammerHawkwind: thx!09:18
TheGateKeeperAsh-Fox: hmm that one looks knackered, is there another mirror?09:18
Hawkwindhammer: You're welcome09:18
Ash-FoxTheGateKeeper, aros.sourceforge.net09:19
Ash-FoxTheGateKeeper, which is essentially the same thing, both hosted by SF :P09:19
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rootHi, can someone help me? After update (in adept) of kubuntu 6.06 I can't login in GUI. There's some rrors with interprocess comunication(don't know englis name - I have kubuntu in czech)09:20
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Ash-Fox!cz09:20
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.09:20
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TheGateKeeperAsh-Fox: that's where it went to I got here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/aros/09:21
crazy_penguinGood evening to everyone!09:21
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Ash-FoxTheGateKeeper, okay?09:22
theresajende_: irgendwie kann ich dir keine pm schicken :(09:22
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Ash-FoxI'm just really infuriated at how it's down, every single time I need todo things in a hurry.09:22
TheGateKeeperhere to: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=43586&package_id=19407709:23
Frederickfolks does anyone here uses lib devil?09:23
Ash-FoxTheGateKeeper the nighties aren't stored there.09:23
TheGateKeeperAsh-Fox: can't blame me for trying, sorry can't help you any further09:24
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Ash-FoxTheGateKeeper, I'm not blaming you. I'm just annoyed at the fact that SF is down partially.09:25
paul__How do I change the default player for mp3,,,,?  basically I  want vlc to open instead of amorak when I click a mp309:25
LjLSF is down? wow. that never happens. </sarcasm>09:25
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LjLpaul__: right click on an MP3 file, "Open with", "Other", select the application, and chose the option to make it stick09:26
TheGateKeeperAsh-Fox:  is life I'm affraid, bit sad they don't have a suitable mirror09:26
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RawSewage_how can I throttle the speed with KLibido09:26
LjLTheGateKeeper: www.aros-exec.org is not a mirror, but has useful pointers09:26
paul__LjL: thnx09:27
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paul__If I sudo Kate I get a lot of error info in teminal window but kate then opens and seems to work normal, is this Normal?09:30
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lupine_85use kdesu instead09:30
paul__same error09:30
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lupine_85but yes, you'll get some errors - it's not a big deal09:30
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paul__-->kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.09:31
paul__so its safe to ignore ?09:31
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TheGateKeeperpaul__: use Run Command to start kate & other gui apps use kdesu kate if you want to use it as root09:33
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paul__TheGateKeeper: gotcha thnx09:34
TheGateKeepernp :-)09:34
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RawSewage_how can I throttle the speed with KLibido09:37
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grayeulI'm having an install problem with EdgyBeta..... anyone listening?09:40
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zorglu_!kbuildsyscoca09:40
ubotukmenu_update is If your kmenu is out of date, like after installing an application and not founding it in kmenu, you should type "kbuildsyscoca" in a terminal to update it. It will rebuild the kde configuration cache.09:40
Blackengrayeul: #ubuntu+109:40
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grayeulBlacken: Thanks... will give a try09:41
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paulohello all09:46
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paulocan i have some ssh help please?09:48
grayeulpaulo: what is ssh issue?09:49
paulocannot connect!09:49
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pauloif i do [ssh -p 443 localhost]  it works fine09:50
grayeulpaulo:  Are you trying to connect to a remote machine?  Can you ping it?09:50
paulobut if i ssh to a unix box and try ssh back into mine i get a time out09:50
User_linuxKubuntu is crazy, Im seeing 4 kubuntuns to choose from in grub09:50
zorglu_paulo: check the firewall and/or port forwarding09:51
pauloUser_linux: a new one is normally added when you run a update09:51
Admiral_Chicagohmm i'm not getting working sound on flash 9 b, anyone know a work around?09:51
paulozorglu_: it ain't that, i could do it on the default port earlier this week09:51
grayeulpaulo:  Could come back in to your own machine?  And now you can't ?09:52
zorglu_paulo, wanna bet ? :)09:52
zorglu_paulo: the other possibility is the dns09:52
paulozorglu_: yeah how much?09:52
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grayeulpaulo: Actually there are probably a lot of possibilities... we don't have much info yet09:53
zorglu_paulo: ok lets try :)09:53
paulograyeul: what would you like to know09:53
zorglu_paulo: are you connected to the remote box right now ?09:53
paulozorglu_: it is my PC09:53
zorglu_paulo: ok lets put name to make it easier09:53
paulozorglu_: and to test it i ssh out and try ssh back in09:53
User_linuxi think Ive broken Adept. Its not loading anymore09:54
zorglu_paulo: what is the hostname for the box on which [ssh -p 443 localhost]  it works fine09:54
grayeulpaulo: 1) What changed since it last worked? 2) are you behind firewall?09:54
paulohemlock09:54
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zorglu_paulo: ok you have a remote box no ? what is the hostname of the box on which 'ssh back' timeout09:55
paulograyeul: 1) port changed to 443 2) no09:55
TheGateKeeperare there any cli editors that use the standard gui text editor hotkey for things like undo, redo, selecting text holding the shift key & using the cursor & that sort of stuff?09:55
zorglu_paulo: hemlock is not a fully qualified hostname, what is the full one09:55
zorglu_paulo: like hemlock.blabla.org09:55
User_linuxHow do I add repositorties do kubuntu?? I need a repository that has opera and azureus09:55
paulozorglu_: i don't understand09:55
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zorglu_paulo: ok what is the command you type when you 'ssh back' ?09:56
paulozorglu_: ssh -p 443 paulo@myipaddress09:56
grayeulpaulo: If you changed ports (and it works with localhost), have you checked/changed iptables (if running)?09:57
BluesKajlost my windows network printer access ! :(09:57
zorglu_paulo: aware that 443 is https ? why using this for ssh ?09:57
paulograyeul: no i did not09:57
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paulozorglu_: to access my PC from work :P09:58
zorglu_i bet isp blocks 443 :)09:58
paulozorglu_: maybe but i can ssh into my mates freebsd machine on 44309:58
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zorglu_paulo: ok what is your ip address09:59
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paulohow can i check iptables09:59
grayeulpaulo: /sbin/iptables -L09:59
grayeulpaulo: (as root)09:59
paul__Can i do  a remote desktop connection  to kubuntu box from windows machine?09:59
zorglu_paul__: yes, using vnc or freenx09:59
zorglu_!kbrc10:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:00
zorglu_is it the one10:00
zorglu_no10:00
zorglu_ok i lost paulo :)10:00
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zorglu_paul__: what do you want to get the desktop of window from kubuntu, or vice versa ?10:00
paul__connet to kubuntu from window box10:01
pauloemmm theres alot to go through in ip tables -- i'll try | grep 443 after it10:01
User_linuxwhere is the graphical repository list editor in kubuntu??10:01
zorglu_!info httptunnel10:01
ubotuhttptunnel: Tunnels a data stream in HTTP requests.. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3-2 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB10:01
grayeulzorglu_: his IP is: 83.147.165.810:01
pauloyeah it is... sorry i didn't answer your que10:02
paulopaul__: try ssh using putty on the windows box10:02
paulopaul__: but that what i'm having issues with10:02
zorglu_ok there is a firewall between me and this address10:02
zorglu_with 22 open10:03
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pauloheh?10:03
grayeulpaulo: I think it (443) is being blocked.10:03
zorglu_aka it is a firewall issue, paulo now pays :)10:03
paul__yah I use putty but would like a graphical desktop if possible10:03
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zorglu_paul__: ok looking10:03
paulook guys how do i unblock?10:04
grayeulOK -- showing my ignorance of ubuntu now (still trying it get it installed), but on RedHat/Fedora iptables is controlled via /etc/sysconfig/iptables10:04
paulocoz 443 should be fine as its apache secure port10:04
paul__does kubuntu rdc work same as windows if connecting to windows box?10:04
zorglu_paul__: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html10:04
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paul__thnx looking now10:05
grayeulpaulo:  At least as a temporary fix, you could simple stop iptables from running.10:05
grayeul(just to see if it helps)10:05
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zorglu_paul__: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=434464 <- to know some possible window client10:05
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grayeulpaulo:  Do you have a /etc/init.d/iptables file?  or is this also too 'redhat'?10:06
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prophitwondering why i cant mount to my second hard drive10:06
zorglu_paulo: try "sudo iptables -F" it will disable the local firewall10:06
prophitsays cant find it in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab10:06
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paulozorglu_: isn't that a bad idea?10:07
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zorglu_paulo: nope. dont worry it is not permanent10:07
prophitanyone know how to solve this problem10:07
zorglu_!ntfs10:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse10:08
paulozorglu_: ok10:08
zorglu_prophit: see if this help10:08
grayeulzorglu_: What is the ubuntu way to start it back up?10:08
zorglu_here we go :)10:08
paulozorglu_: ok so its iptables, thank you for finding out it was that10:08
zorglu_paulo: how much did we bet already ? :) :)10:08
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paulohehe10:08
paulozorglu_: i can pay you in files10:09
zorglu_grayeul: dunno, need to install some firewall software to make it easy10:09
paulolol10:09
zorglu_!firewall10:09
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)10:09
paulozorglu_: how do i turn back on iptables10:09
zorglu_arg not a good one, to say the least10:09
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grayeulzorglu_: so does ubuntu have the /etc/init.d type initialization?10:09
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grayeulpaulo: Do you have a /etc/init.d/iptables file?10:10
paulograyeul: nope10:10
zorglu_grayeul: yep it does, more like system v, /etc/init.d/apaches2 restart for example10:10
zorglu_!info guarddog10:11
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB10:11
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grayeulwell, it sounds like he is missing /etc/init.d/iptables --- or you could just call that with a start argument.10:11
zorglu_paulo: install this one, it is a gui to setup the iptables10:11
zorglu_sudo apt-get install guarddog10:11
grayeulpaulo: something must have started the iptables when you booted.... but since no one here has been able to help me get kubuntu installed, I can't help you :-)10:12
paulograyeul: what issue you having during the install?10:12
prophitthank you the script worked10:13
zorglu_ny pleasure10:13
grayeulpaulo:  I can boot/run the Live CD, but when I click on the desktop icon for install, it runs for a while "copying files", and then when it switches to begin install -- system locks up.10:13
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zorglu_grayeul: have you checked the cd ? and which version do you try to installl10:13
paulograyeul: did you do a media check before the install?10:13
grayeulThis is on a new laptop (Dell M65) EdgyBeta10:14
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grayeulI'm not sure if I completed a media check or not... but the basic bootup went OK.10:14
zorglu_the help for edgy focus in #ubuntu+110:14
zorglu_check the cd to be sure10:14
grayeulzorglu_: Yes, I was directed there and asked -- but got no real response, then switched back here to help paulo with ssh10:15
zorglu_ah ok :)\10:15
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grayeulI'll check the CD (while I'm downloading EdgeEft-RC1)10:15
paulozorglu_: how do i start iptables again?10:15
zorglu_paulo: you install guarddog10:15
zorglu_and config them with it10:15
paulozorglu_: this has been done and guarddog is open as sudo10:16
grayeulpaulo: I would think that something in /etc/init.d started it before... try grepping files in /etc/init.d for iptables10:16
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paulookok it is back, zorglu_which tab in guarddog do i use to get 443 going10:17
User_linuxhttp://www.kubuntu-br.org/node/6 I copied and pasted this over sources.list, now Adept doesnt work. IT wont open. What do I do?10:17
zorglu_paulo: once you configured it according to your need, exit. and do "iptables -L" to see if it is enable10:17
paulo|synaptic10:17
paulo!synaptic10:17
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto10:17
grayeulzorglu_,paulo: We should have had you save the output of iptables -L before....10:17
zorglu_!adept crash fix10:17
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:17
pauloUser_linux: try the above link instead, synaptic is better10:17
zorglu_User_linux: the ubotu message was for you10:18
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paulozorglu_: is it in user defined protocols part?10:19
User_linuxfixed10:19
zorglu_User_linux: and try a "apt-get update" to see if it reports error10:19
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User_linuxIve forgot a D in DEB first line10:19
User_linuxbut the list is quite empty,10:19
zorglu_paulo: protocol -> interactive session -> ssh10:19
User_linuxwhere is all goodies to install?10:19
zorglu_oh no you want special port10:20
zorglu_User_linux: if apt-get update worked ok, relaunch adept and have fun10:20
paulozorglu_: yes!10:20
zorglu_paulo: ok so this is advanced -> user defined protocol10:20
User_linuxok, sudo apt-get update returned some errors at the end10:20
zorglu_paulo: tcp/44310:21
User_linuxsomething about keys or signatures10:21
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zorglu_User_linux: added the key from the url ?10:21
paulohelp10:22
User_linuxno10:22
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User_linuxim adding them now10:22
zorglu_ok10:22
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paulozorglu_: now when i try to ssh to a machine i get "Name or service not known"10:23
User_linuxIts weird. When you are a windows user everything is automatic, then you go linux and not everything is automatic, you need to put your hand on some files and configs to get it working10:23
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zorglu_User_linux: yep, we are working on that :)10:23
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fdovingUser_linux: it's also weird, when you get to know linux, you see how much more automatic linux can be, than windows :)10:24
grayeulzorglu_: If I select media check on boot, and then when I look back over (later) it has booted all the way to desktop, does that mean it successfully did check?10:24
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zorglu_grayeul: i dunno... but clearly seems weird to me10:24
grayeulpaulo: Sounds like you don't have DNS... can you ping the host?10:24
zorglu_fdoving: can you confirm what grayeul said ?10:25
paulonot any more10:25
User_linuxstill empty10:25
paulozorglu_:  not any more10:25
grayeulzorglu_: EdgyRC is 68% downloaded... will try when finished.10:25
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grayeulpaulo: At least you didn't lose your IRC connection :)10:25
m_tadeuhi everyone10:25
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grayeulpaulo: Did you ever check /etc/init.d for iptables references (grep)?10:26
paulograyeul: thankfully10:26
User_linuxwget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg I ran this but im still seeing errors about signaturs at the end of apt-get update10:26
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paulograyeul: the file does not exist10:26
grayeulpaulo: Don't close it or you won't get it back without reboot.10:26
paulohelp please10:26
zorglu_User_linux: there are 4 commands, this wget is only the first :)10:26
grayeulpaulo: I know the file isn't there... did you try grep iptables /etc/init.d/*10:26
pauloi hate messing with firewall10:26
m_tadeudoes anyone know how to change the color of the grub selected item? its all black after installing kubuntu-artwork stuff10:27
User_linuxI ran all 410:27
fdovingzorglu_: sounds like it was successfull. The general idea is that things that work out OK are quiet. When they get problems they tell you.10:27
User_linuxbut two are returning errors10:27
pauloGreyStar: i ran that command10:27
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paulograyeul: i ran that command10:28
User_linuxthe second one is returning "not found"10:28
zorglu_fdoving: hmm not a good idea for explicit check like media check, in my opinion10:28
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slow-motionre10:28
grayeulpaulo: I'm guessing you didn't see anything.... which begs the question, what started up iptables when you booted?10:28
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paulocan i get some help please? since this guarddog thing i cannot ssh or ping10:28
zorglu_User_linux: ok lets do it steps by steps10:29
User_linuxHmmm10:29
grayeulpaulo: What does /etc/resolv.conf say?10:29
User_linuxwith Sudo it returned OK10:29
zorglu_User_linux: ah ok10:29
morghanphoenixOkay, how do I delete the contents of "recycled" on an external hard drive? It came from windows and it's starting to piss me off just a bit.10:29
fdovingzorglu_: it's stupid if you for example run a server, that you will have to run the check, wait for it to say it finished successfully, click OK, and -then- it will boot. Instead of just booting when it's finished.10:29
zorglu_User_linux: now do 'sudo apt-ket list' and check you see the just added key10:29
morghanphoenixuser - root10:29
intelikeyGreyStar firestarter ?10:29
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User_linuxlist is not a valid operator10:30
paulograyeul: it has 3 nameserver lines10:30
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zorglu_fdoving: yep, but this happen if and only if you explicitlty asked for a media check10:30
grayeulpaulo:Can you ping any of them?  They should be numeric, right?10:30
intelikeymorghanphoenix sudo rm -r /path10:30
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morghanphoenixdr-xr-xr-x for the rest of the drive. drwxr-xr-x for recycled10:30
morghanphoenixsays it's unable to10:31
zorglu_fdoving: in fact, what disturb me is that 'if the software doing the check fails or anything, i wont know it'10:31
morghanphoenixI've tried that allread, unable for all files in the -r10:31
paulograyeul: i get operation not permitted10:31
User_linux!10:31
zorglu_fdoving: aka me as a user i have to trust the software is unbugged and that nobody made mistake :)10:31
grayeulpaulo:  ??? on a ping?10:31
pauloyes10:31
User_linuxNo errors after sudo apt-get update10:31
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fdovingzorglu_: maybe it sends you a mail about the result or something. don't know for sure. i still think it's a good idea to continue booting. it's what I expect. Filesystem checks was common on ext2, and they never stopped telling you everything were OK.10:32
zorglu_User_linux: ok cool10:32
User_linuxI guess, I re ran all 4 lines with sudo and now update worked10:32
morghanphoenixoperation not permitted for removing the path10:32
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grayeulpaulo: You could try the /sbin/iptables -F again.... that should get you back (albeit with no firewall)10:32
pauloits things like this that frustrate me about linux10:32
User_linuxhmmm10:32
zorglu_fdoving: yep but only when done automatically :) not when it is explicitly asked10:32
grayeulpaulo: Linux can be dangerous (as anything powerful can be), but it gives you great flexibility10:33
User_linuxAdept is listing KDE packages, nothing else, where are the commercial or non KDE apackages?10:33
intelikeymorghanphoenix is there a windows machine using that drive ?10:33
zorglu_fdoving: but it is ok, no need to argue, i can live with this10:33
morghanphoenixeverything from linux works great for me, it's just this damn windows drive.10:33
morghanphoenixNot anymore10:33
fdovingzorglu_: 'run filesystem check automatically at next boot' isn't that what is asked?10:33
morghanphoenixIt was on the windows machine10:33
User_linuxChecked show unsupported and commercial, lets see10:33
fdovingzorglu_: I get your point though. :)10:34
User_linuxoh yeahs, now I see azureus10:34
jende_howdy10:34
zorglu_fdoving: ok when i meant being asked, i mean explicitly asked by a human in front of the box :)10:34
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zorglu_fdoving: aka a human who want to know the result of the check :)10:34
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megamasterxUhm, I need some help.10:35
megamasterxMy monitor's resolution isn't going up10:35
intelikeymorghanphoenix copy out all the stuff you want to keep and change it to an ext# file system  put back what you want on it.   ntfs is not "officially supported by linux"10:35
morghanphoenixfat3210:35
zorglu_!resolution10:35
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:35
User_linuxam I admin or something? Whenever I open Adept it asks me for my own user password10:35
megamasterxit doens't have any other options in display settings, and when I click administrator mode button it doesn't ask me for a password10:35
jende_fdoving: howdy10:35
fdovinghi jende_.10:35
jende_morghanphoenix: howdy10:35
morghanphoenixintelikey it's fat3210:36
jende_fdoving: how are things going?10:36
morghanphoenixello jende10:36
zorglu_User_linux: yep it is normal. each time you type the passwd you become admin10:36
morghanphoenixGot the drive to mount, now I can't get rid of the windows recycled path10:36
fdovingjende_: fine, and you?10:36
megamasterxwhy isn't it promting me for my root password10:36
jende_fdoving: I am okay, even it's getting late, but yes I'm fine10:37
morghanphoenixand it won't let me change permissions while the windows path is on my drive10:37
intelikeymorghanphoenix if it's vfat and you cant remove something that tells me one of two things is up.  either something is accessing what you are trying to rm    or the fs is hosed and you are about to have major problems.    probably the former.10:37
grayeulpaulo: Any luck?10:37
morghanphoenixNothing accessing it, unless it's still connected to the windows box in it's mind10:37
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intelikeymorghanphoenix you can't change permissions on vfat  it has none.10:38
User_linuxhmmmm10:38
morghanphoenixit's owner is user name - root10:38
User_linuxno opera rbowser in the repository that I ve just added10:38
jende_megamasterx: has your monitor been recognized during the installation?10:38
intelikeyyeah.10:38
megamasterxJende: yea10:38
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megamasterxThis happened when I changed it last.10:38
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zorglu_User_linux: you need commercial one10:39
jende_megamasterx: what have you changed?10:39
morghanphoenixI can't add or remove files.10:39
User_linuxoh I see10:39
User_linuxim using a Universal one10:39
morghanphoenixIt says operation not permitted.10:40
zorglu_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a76 <- User_linux10:40
instructorInteresting Radio station10:40
zorglu_!repo10:40
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:40
instructorIt shows the next song in the playlist on song change :)10:40
rawrnessdo what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate harhar being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate10:40
intelikeymorghanphoenix vfat does not support permissions bits  nor ownership bits  what you see as owner and perms is all a vertual bit set by the mount command.  man mount10:40
megamasterxI changed my resolution10:40
zorglu_User_linux: this is to get an idea of what are repository and how they are organized10:40
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User_linuxI was using mandriva hours ago, but sice it's package manager didnt like me, I have it replaced by kubuntu10:41
morghanphoenixit auto mounted, shouldn't it be accessable to me then?10:41
intelikeymorghanphoenix no10:41
instructorintelikey:10:41
instructorDon't run :)10:41
jende_megamasterx: where have you changed the resolution just in KDE or in the systemfile itself?10:42
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morghanphoenix/dev/sda1 on /media/PHOENIX type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)10:42
morghanphoenixroot@home:/media/PHOENIX#10:42
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morghanphoenixdo I need to unmount this and mount it manually?10:43
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megamasterxMuch better.10:43
megamasterxreconfigured10:43
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instructorHmm Any one wanna help with a X vidcard issue?10:43
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User_linuxoh noes10:44
intelikeymorghanphoenix in the console do this.   (first close all other windows that might be accessing that drive.) type "mount"  and note the device and mountpoint of that drive. then.    sudo umount /media/<where.ever.its.mounted> && sudo mount /dev/<device> </mount/point> -o umask=010:44
jende_MegaMasterX: so you reconfigures xorg?xserver?xfree86?10:44
User_linuxIm installing JAva, but the installer is stuck, im seeing a DOS PRompt with an OK button that I cannot press10:44
MegaMasterXXorg10:44
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intelikeymorghanphoenix inturpret everything within <>10:45
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instructor0:0 is going to a new video card :(10:45
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morghanphoenixsudo: unmount: command not found10:45
jende_#debian10:45
intelikeymorghanphoenix why are you posting your typos ?10:45
intelikeywe all make them.  from time to time.10:46
morghanphoenixtypo?10:46
intelikeyyep.10:46
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morghanphoenixsudo unmount /media/PHOENIX?10:47
intelikeyi didn't say "unmount"  there is no such command.  i said "umount"   you typo'd it.10:47
morghanphoenixah10:47
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morghanphoenixsorry10:48
intelikeytypo=typographical error   generally transpositions but also often insertions and/or deletions10:48
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jende_megamas10:49
intelikeytypo might be also called  typing evolution    it's almost always deadly to a command.10:49
morghanphoenixwrong fs type, where does the vfat go?10:50
intelikeyit doesnt10:50
intelikeyyou don't see it in what i said do10:50
morghanphoenixit's telling me wrong fs type10:50
intelikeysudo umount /media/<where.ever.its.mounted> && sudo mount /dev/<device> </mount/point> -o umask=010:51
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morghanphoenixused sudo10:51
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morghanphoenixIt's unmounted10:51
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sorush20hi, I'm not sure what is going on with my kde usb devices its not auto mounting.. on lsusb the storage device is there but there is not automount10:51
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intelikeymount device mountpoint -o umask=010:51
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sorush20any help people/10:51
intelikeymount <device> <mountpoint> -o umask=010:52
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morghanphoenixsudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ext-hdd -o unmask=010:52
User_linux...10:52
morghanphoenixright?10:52
intelikeylooks good10:52
sorush20intelikey: how do i find out what device it is registered as I think it was sda1 or sda10:52
intelikeyassuming /mnt/ext-hdd exists10:52
Lam_azureus or ktorrent?10:52
morghanphoenixwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1. missing codepage or other error.10:53
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jende_sorush20: mount10:53
morghanphoenixThe mount point is there, I just made it and double checked.10:53
sorush20Lam_: depends , lots more features in azureus10:53
intelikeysorush20 usb devices are generally /dev/sd?10:53
Lam_sorush20: ok thanks10:53
jende_sorush20: I guess it is/was sda110:54
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pastelborrachose me lee?10:54
sorush20jende_: niether is mountable..10:54
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morghanphoenixit's was at sda1 when I unmounted it, it's always at sda1.10:54
intelikeysorush20 if it's a usb disk or any veriant there of   sudo fdisk -l    might be productive.10:54
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jende_intelikey: ;-) just had the same idea re sorish20 ;-)10:55
morghanphoenix /dev/sda1               1        9728    78140128+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)10:55
morghanphoenixThat's the output10:55
intelikeysudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ext-hdd -o umask=010:56
sorush20the point is the automount fails on occasions and I don't think I have time to debug what is the problemm could be one of my other usb devices10:56
sorush20I managed to do it manually...10:56
sorush20but auto is better10:56
jende_sorush20: ;-)10:57
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rafaalguna10:57
rafalinuxera10:58
rafaes que si las cosas me la esplica una mujer10:58
rafapues que me entero mejor10:58
rafajejej10:58
zorglu_!es10:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:58
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morghanphoenixOkay, it's mounted, as root and I can't access it.10:58
Lecherorafa: esto es un canal en ingles, y solo hay geeks tios10:58
rafay un lechero no??10:58
intelikeywith umask=0 you can't access it.   bull crap10:58
morghanphoenixno crap10:59
rafahello10:59
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morghanphoenixI can see it, but can't alter anything10:59
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administradorI made two logins, one is not working10:59
intelikeymorghanphoenix pastebin the output of     mount10:59
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morghanphoenixOwner: root - root Permissions: drwxrwxrwx11:00
morghanphoenixokay11:00
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jende_sorush20: assuing that it works in Kubuntu as like as I did it with my debian box here is how to get your USB automounted11:00
morghanphoenix!pastebin11:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:00
intelikeyPermissions: drwxrwxrwx   duh  that's umask=011:00
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morghanphoenixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27557/11:01
jende_sorush20: I used that howto http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/12711:01
jende_sorush20: maybe that helps11:01
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intelikeyand you are telling me that you cant access/change anything on    12. /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ext-hdd type vfat (rw,umask=0)   ????11:02
morghanphoenixcan't make new dirs, can't delete files or remove dirs11:02
morghanphoenixnothing at all11:02
brainwashedanyone had success mounting stuff with the gmailf package in universe?11:02
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intelikeyfor a nickle i'd sujest rm -fr /mnt/ext-hdd/*     and see if it changes anything..... but i try to not be malicious....11:03
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morghanphoenixwhat does that do?11:04
jende_sorush20: so, do you think that'll help?11:04
morghanphoenixI'm a bit leary of *s11:05
intelikeymorghanphoenix do this in a konsole,  mkdir /mnt/ext-hdd/testing_the_file_system ; ls /mnt/ext-hdd11:05
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intelikeymorghanphoenix what rm does is deletes/remover  rm=remove cp=copy mv=move ls=list11:06
morghanphoenixread only file system11:06
VIKIim running apt-get upgrade, what is it upgrading? I saw KDE and java11:06
intelikeyhow can it be a readonly fs if mounted rw ????11:07
morghanphoenixshouldn't be read only11:07
intelikey 12. /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ext-hdd type vfat (rw,umask=0)11:07
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LecheroVIKI: is it upgrading all the packages that need to be upgraded11:07
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morghanphoenixit says rw, but when I try to alter it in any way it says read only11:08
morghanphoenixfresh output from mount: /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ext-hdd type vfat (rw,umask=0)11:08
intelikeyit's still possable that the fs is hosed and about to give major data loss11:09
VIKII was installing java using Adept. But then Java prompted me to click OK, but the button was unclickable, it was inside Adept window. I just forced a kill to close it.11:09
morghanphoenixI just bought the thing11:09
jende_VIKI: what if you try to install Java from the console?11:09
morghanphoenixIt's about two months old11:09
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Ash-FoxAnyone happen to know of a way I can enable backing store for a specific window only?11:09
morghanphoenixmade one backup and that's it11:10
jende_JosefK: Howdy ;-)11:10
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intelikeyumount it and  sudo fsck /dev/sda111:10
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VIKIAdpt-get is installing java I guess11:10
VIKInoooooooooooo...........11:10
jende_VIKI: so, here we go11:10
VIKIits downloading Koffice libs, I dont wanna install Koffice11:11
jende_VIKI: ooops...what's the output11:11
VIKIkoffice-data11:11
jende_VIKI: do you need just the JRE?11:11
VIKIyes11:11
morghanphoenixdifferences between boot sector and its backup offset:original/backup 65:01/00, 67:ef/25, 68:61/29, 69:ff/e7, 70:fb/1511:11
jende_VIKI: gimme a seec11:12
morghanphoenixasks me if I want to copy orig to backup or backup to orig.11:12
intelikeyso it is the fs waced out....11:13
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morghanphoenixshould I copy one, if so which way?11:13
jende_VIKI: how did you try to install the jre?11:13
intelikeythat's right.11:13
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jhutchins_wkswapon and mkfs swap return "Invalid block count" for my swap partition.  What can I do?  I've deleted and re-created it.11:14
jende_VIKI: sudo apt-get install <what>11:14
VIKIAdept -> search java -> select -> apply. At 28% the a DOS like message with an OK button showed up, I couldnt click it, then I closed Adept11:14
jende_VIKI: sudo apt-get install <what>11:15
hammer!dv11:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
jende_VIKI: sudo apt-get install <what>???11:15
HawkwindHah11:16
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jende_Hawkwind: am I wrong?11:16
Hawkwindjende_: Absolutely not11:16
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jende_Hawkwind: puuuh...;-)11:16
dvayanuhello11:16
dvayanuis there a chance to get a working mozilla for edge amd64?11:17
morghanphoenixokay, if the fs is screwed how do I fix it? I still need it to be compatabile with windows computers.11:17
Hawkwinddvayanu: You mean mozilla the webbrowser ?11:17
Ash-Foxseamonkey?11:17
morghanphoenixI don't think ext3 is, that's what my hard mounts are.11:17
dvayanuhawkwind: yes. mozilla-browser package11:17
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Hawkwinddvayanu: There should be one by default11:17
jende_!mozilla11:17
ubotumozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB11:18
Ash-Fox!seamonkey11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
Hawkwind!info mozilla edgy11:18
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ubotumozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB11:18
HawkwindAsh-Fox: He wants Mozilla, not seamonkey11:18
dvayanuthere is one, it just doesn't run11:18
dvayanusegfault11:18
Hawkwinddvayanu: Define *doesn't run*11:18
jende_VIKI: would be just nice if you would answer11:18
Hawkwinddvayanu: Run it from a terminal and put any errors into http://pastebin.ulteo.us11:18
VIKInvm11:18
VIKIthe atp-get finished downloading all upgrades11:18
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jende_VIKI: no errors?11:19
VIKIits installing java, the OK button showed again, but since I was in konsole, I was able to click it11:19
dvayanuhawkwind: no errors, just Segmentation fault11:19
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VIKIuinstalling is the same as installing?11:19
Hawkwinddvayanu: Do this:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old as normal user, then try and start mozilla11:19
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VIKIto uinstall a package I simple to in adept and uncheck it?11:20
jende_VIKI: to uninstall use: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>11:20
HawkwindVIKI: sudo apt-get remove <package>11:20
VIKIdone11:20
jende_Hawkwind: hehe11:20
VIKIjre showed up11:20
dvayanuhawkkind: thanx11:20
jende_VIKI: well done, prob solved11:20
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xabihey, anyone here knows of a good tutorial on C++ sockets (Under linux of course) :)11:21
dvayanuhawkwind: stupid me! i copied my home from my 32bit dapper11:21
VIKIno11:21
VIKII m in a site that requires java to load an applet, but the java applet is missing11:21
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dvayanuhawkwind: moving on, is there a chance to get flashplayer working or a java plugin? jdk1.5.09 64 doesn't have a plugin :-(11:22
jende_xabi: maybe that site yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialC++.html -11:22
jende_xabi: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialC++.html11:22
jende_VIKI: which browser?which site?11:23
Hawkwinddvayanu: You need to isntall the 32bit versions of flash and java to get them to work11:23
VIKIFirefox11:23
jende_VIKI: site?11:23
VIKIthe java irc plugin11:23
VIKIfor web irc sessions11:23
dvayanuhawkwind: hmm, can 64bit firefox work with 32bit java plugin?11:23
jende_VIKI: which firefox?11:24
VIKI1.0.5.0.711:24
Hawkwinddvayanu: That I don't know.  You could install the 32bit firefox if need be11:24
xabithx jende_ but no luck :(11:24
rawrnessdo what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate11:24
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dvayanuhawkwind: and for flashplayer: install_flash_player_7_linux$ ./flashplayer-installer ->11:25
xabiwtf?11:25
jende_VIKI: have you had a look here: https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?q=java&app=firefox11:25
VIKISun java 5.0 webstart11:25
pointwoodokay, I get an error when running dist-upgrade (to edgy from dapper), I get dialog box named Debconf on marvin (marvin is the name of my pc): Incorrect nice value. Please enter a an integer between -20 and 20. I understand that quite well, but there is no place to enter a value :(11:25
dvayanuhawkwind: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by theMacromedia Flash Player installer.11:25
rawrnessdo what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate11:25
jende_VIKI: your firefoy is also, AFAIK, quite old11:26
rawrnessdo what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate11:26
xabirawrness: that's called flooding <_<11:26
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rawrnessMy apologys11:27
xabinp11:27
rawrnessnot only that it is stuck in my head11:27
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rawrness http://rj.selfip.com/pirate.swf11:28
dvayanuhawkwind: however, thanx you very much for the help with mozilla11:28
jende_VIKI: you'll be sent to here http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp11:28
Lecherorawrness: nice video :)11:29
rawrnessit was stolen off us imaginations pirate policy11:29
Hawkwinddvayanu: You can install a 32bit version though.  Most everyone here who runs a 64bit machine does just that11:30
jende_dvayanu: try that site for the latest flashplayer http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html11:30
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Lecherohas somebody installed flash player 9 beta under kubuntu?11:31
rawrnessMe.11:31
HawkwindLechero: Yes11:31
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jende_Lechero: on edgy I have11:31
HawkwindLechero: Works perfectly normal here in both Dapper and Edgy11:31
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dvayanujende_ thanx11:31
jende_dvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv11:32
jende_dvayanu: np11:32
Lecherojende_: i am under edgy too :)11:32
rawrnessi think i might upgrade to edgy11:32
jende_Lechero: so...why wont you install fp9b ?11:32
Lecheroi prefer to ask here before install is it is "stable"11:33
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rawrnesswell it is in a Rc.11:33
jende_Lechero: edgy isn't in stable as yet, so basically you can say that you mix a beta with beta11:34
Lecheroedgy now is really stable i have only problem with autocomplain under konsole with tab key... is very slow. More slow than always11:34
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jende_Lechero: have you done today a apt-get update and dist-upgrade?11:36
Lecherojende_: yes11:36
darkauraHi I need help11:36
VIKIfor each repository I need a key?11:36
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jende_Lechero: I've done it  bout noon CET and I'm doing just now again...guess what...another 50pckgs will be updated and 2 new installed11:37
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jende_Lechero: if it wouldn't be a rc you wouldn't get within 12hrs that many updates11:38
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pointwoodI have a dapper to edgy upgrade that fails here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27494/11:38
pointwoodanyone got a suggestion to how I fix that?11:38
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darkauraI know this is kubuntu chat but I need help with ubuntu, I'm not getting any answers in Ubuntu. I have a nvidia geforce go 6800 ultra, when I play full screen games like metal blob solid, it only plays on part of the screen and doesn't scale full screen11:39
fdovingpointwood: 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade'11:39
AzmodanEdgy doesn't recognize my wifi card while Dapper did out of the box.  Can anyone help me with this?11:39
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jende_pointwood: pastebin yoour sources.list please11:39
fdovingpointwood: the bug is reported, and it is beeing fixed. fyi. :)11:39
pointwoodjende_: one moment11:40
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jende_pointwood: dont have to as fdoving has gave you already the solution11:40
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pointwoodmy sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27562/11:41
jende_fdoving: it seems to be that edgy des have a wlan/wifi prob11:41
jende_fdoving: it seems to be that edgy does have a wlan/wifi prob, dont you think11:41
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fdovingjende_: i don't have wifi problems in edgy. do you?11:41
Azmodanfdoving: I do!11:41
dylan_what exactly does the swap partition do?11:42
fdovingAzmodan: oh, what card?11:42
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Azmodanfdoving: D-Link Airplug something...11:42
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jende_fdoving: I dont have a wifi, but azmodan is already the +10th reporting issues in here re wifi11:42
jende_!swap11:42
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info11:42
VIKIO_11:42
jende_dylan11:42
VIKIO_O11:42
pointwoodI get the same problem as earlier - I get a Debconf dialog box saying "incorrect nice value. Please enter and integer between -20 and 20" but there is nowhere I can enter any number...11:42
dylan_i always check the system monitor and i never see any record of it being used11:43
fdovingdylan_: the linux kernel putts stuff that was initialy put into RAM on it, because it knows it doesn't change and it's not accessed frequently, so moving it to disk is smart. (or something like that, much more complex ofcourse)11:43
VIKII download opera package in deb extension from opera site itself, its working11:43
pointwoodthere is a next button, but that just gives me the same dialog box again11:43
dvayanui have the feeling i just somehow killed my firefox and got a fresh kubuntu-firefox copy... can mozilla-firefox overwrite firefox or is it the same package?11:43
Lecheroi just installed flash 9 beta, now i can wath pornotube videos under kubuntu :)11:43
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jende_!language11:43
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:43
fdovingAzmodan: the 'something' part is essential :)11:44
jende_Azmodan: the chipset might be nice to know11:44
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dylan_it just seems a bit weird that it is never used11:44
Azmodanjende_: I'm under Dapper (liveCD) now, can I pluck that info out of somewhere?11:44
jende_dylan_: swap is used, most definitely11:44
dylan_would it show up in the graph for it under the system monitor?11:45
jende_Azmodan: lspci on a console should tell you details11:45
pointwoodfdoving: the only thing I can do is press cancel and then it ends like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27564/11:45
jende_dylan_: nope11:45
dylan_why not?11:45
AzmodanDone, where's the paste bin?11:45
jende_!paste11:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:46
jende_pointwood: do as apt said a sudo apt-get -f install11:46
Azmodanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27565/11:47
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pointwoodjende_: apt-get -f install what? openoffice-core?11:47
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jende_pointwood: just: sudo apt-get -f install11:47
fdovingpointwood: hmm.. that's worse, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' select dialog, then run the last command i gave you, again.11:47
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jende_fdoving: an atheros again11:48
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AzmodanIs there a problem with atheros cards?11:48
fdovingjende_: that's madwifi then :)11:48
jende_fdoving: exactly...will you post a bug report?11:48
jende_or should I?11:48
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fdovingjende_: what bug?11:49
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jende_fdoving: in my opinion its a bug. Cause until the users haven't done an upgrade madwifi works fine11:49
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Azmodanjende_: The wireless assistant in Edgy says it cannot find a card and quits.11:49
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fdovingjende_: oh. that's bad. does the users have 'linux-restricted-modules' for the correct kernel installed?11:50
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Azmodanfdoving: I was using the LiveCD, it's as "default" install as you can get.11:51
jende_fdoving: mikeeagle, AFAIK had them and it didn't work11:51
fdovingAzmodan: true.11:51
AbnaxosHi, I just upgraded to Edgy and have a problem with guidance-power-manager.11:51
AbnaxosWhen I try to start it, I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27567/11:52
fdovingAzmodan: post a bug at http://bugs.ubuntu.com then.11:52
AzmodanLooks like we'll get an RC2....11:52
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AbnaxosBTW: In the backtrace you can see that it thinks the AC adapter had been unplugged -- which is not true.11:52
fdovingjende_: mikeeagle was using a acx card. I have one on a old laptop, that works with edgy. did test-install on it yesterday.11:53
coreymon77oh11:53
coreymon77edgy rc is out?11:53
fdovingcoreymon77: it is.11:53
jende_fdoving: true he had an acx11:53
jende_fdoving: sorry11:54
coreymon77how do i upgrade11:54
jende_coreymon77: where to?11:54
shadowhywinddoes anyone know if there is a way to change the graphic of the volume screen??11:54
Azmodanjende_: So I report madwifi as the offending package?11:55
coreymon77how do i upgrade toedgy11:55
pointwoodfdoving: okay, that might seem to have fixed it, thx - now it asks whether I want dash installed - do I want that?11:55
jende_Azmodan: yep, I'd say so11:55
fdovingpointwood: yes, you want dash, and you also want dash to be the default /bin/sh shell, if it asks later :)11:55
slow-motionn811:55
jende_coreymon77: hope you know that edgy isn't yet i stable11:55
coreymon77how do i do it?11:56
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jende_coreymon77: and you are aware of the fact, that not stable means that you may come across some errors and stuf?11:56
coreymon77its an rc11:57
theresaedgy looks VERY sexy, well done guys on the artwork!11:57
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coreymon77ive used linux for a long time11:57
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coreymon77if its an rc11:57
coreymon77it should be fine11:57
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jende_coreymon77: gimme a sec I'll pastebin my way11:57
coreymon77preferably through apt11:57
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VIKIwhats the difference between Adept and Add / Remove packages?? It seems that some packages wont show up or wont install unless I run system - Adept11:58
jende_!paste11:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:58
coreymon77just tell me the apt command jende11:58
jende_coreymon77: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27568/11:58
coreymon77im not clueless in linuc11:59
jende_theresa: sexy...;-)11:59
AzmodanFrom bugs.ubuntu.com : "madwifi" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know"11:59
coreymon77i dunno12:00
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theresajende_: ja sehr sogar :)12:00
coreymon77i dont usually use dist-upgrade12:00
Wikipedia-Gast90why12:00
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coreymon77ive just used install kubuntudesktop12:00
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coreymon77fodving: is dist-upgrade the thing to do?12:01
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coreymon77fdoving*12:01
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coreymon77whatever12:01
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dvayanuok, double stupid me, as i moved away .mozilla to get mozilla working, i also killed all firefox setting, so after firefox restart it came blank :-)12:02
Azmodanjende: bugs.ubuntu.com says the package madwifi doesn't exists.12:02
fdovingAzmodan: just choose 'i don't know'12:03
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fdovingAzmodan: or use 'kernel-source' then i'll be directed to the right people.12:03
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coreymon77fdoving: is apt-get dist-upgrade the right way to get edgy?12:04
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coreymon77or is there a better way12:04
Hawkwindcoreymon77: Why are you upgrading to Edgy ?12:04
fdovingcoreymon77: yes, first make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, then change /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy, then run 'sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'12:05
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coreymon77cause its rc now12:05
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coreymon77and i upgrade when they get to rc12:05
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jendeAzmodan: sent the bug to madwifi12:07
Digital_PioneerHey. I've just installed Kubuntu on a computer, and one of my first setup steps is getting internet. The box has a wireless WG311v2 adapter, so I'm using NdisWrapper, but something seems to be blocking communication to the device12:07
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jendewww.madwifi.org12:07
Azmodanjende: Thanks12:07
dvayanujende: i downloaded FP9 and linked the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, is that the right way to do it?12:07
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jendedvayanu: yep12:07
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dvayanujende: doesn't work :-) the missing plugin page comes up12:08
dvayanujende: i'm trying my favorite flash page: http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html12:08
ubuntustop12:09
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jendefdoving: the wg311 has an atheros12:09
jendefdoving: urgh12:09
Hawkwinddvayanu: Might need to go into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins instead12:09
archangel_I try to access my cd/dvd drive and get a "malformed url" error every time. Is my drive bad?12:09
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fdovingarchangel_: is this dapper with kde from kubuntu.org?12:10
dvayanuhawkwind: mozilla-firefox -> firefox12:10
archangel_fdoving: yes12:10
fdovingarchangel_: kde 3.5.5 ?12:10

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