[12:11] <Elwyn> Prety good. Im finding KDE more intuative than Gnome
[12:11] <jende_> fdoving: I just found a howto and a driver for TI WLan drivers which works for the acx series just fine and its easy to install. Unfortunately the HowTo is in german. Is that of your interest?
[12:12] <jende_> mikeeagles: I just found the solution, so don't run away
[12:13] <OOD> Elwyn: yeah, and it's easier moving from windows since it's more similar
[12:13] <mikeeagles> Not gone anywhere. Just waiting for the live cd to finish booting.
[12:14] <Elwyn> Yea, Iv found that too
[12:14] <batousaix19> not really simpler, but more similar;)
[12:15] <jende_> mikeeagles: can't you boot without the LiveCd anymore
[12:15] <jende_> mikeeagles: can't you boot without the LiveCd anymore?
[12:15] <mikeeagles> Remember I switched hd's.
[12:15] <mikeeagles> I'll stop this and reinstall the other one.
[12:15] <zorglu_> mikeeagles: a matter of grub map ?
[12:16] <jende_> mikeeagles: yep...I forgot that for a moment...sorry
[12:16] <yokobr> theres anyway to install flash by terminal??!
[12:16] <zorglu_> !flash
[12:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <zorglu_> yokobr: yes there is
[12:16] <OOD> there's a flash 9 beta so you should give that a try
[12:16] <yokobr> i want!!
[12:16] <yokobr> how?
[12:17] <zorglu_> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:17] <Elwyn> Quick question, How can i change my permisions on a mounted NTFS drive from "Can View Content" to "Can View and Modify Content", as every time I try do it from Right Click> Properties >Permisions, it gives me the error "Could not change permissions for /media/dir/"
[12:17] <OOD> that one is v 7
[12:17] <lainproliant> hello :)
[12:17] <yokobr> 00D, how can i ge t9?
[12:17] <timothy> i am having major problems with my Broadcom WiFi card
[12:17] <timothy> anyone wanna help me?
[12:17] <OOD> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/releasenotes.html
[12:18] <OOD> Elwyn: the default ntfs driver doesn't have write acces to NTFS
[12:18] <zorglu_> OOD: they release a linux version ?
[12:18] <OOD> yep
[12:18] <Hawkwind> !flash9
[12:18] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:18] <zorglu_> nice :)
[12:18] <Hawkwind> Hah
[12:18] <Hawkwind> I added the fact yesterday :P
[12:18] <Elwyn> @OOD is it possible to get another driver that doe4s?
[12:19] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: uptodate :)
[12:19] <batousaix19> ntfs-3g :)
[12:19] <OOD> Elwyn: right here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[12:19] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: cool :-)
[12:19] <Elwyn> sweet, thanks
[12:19] <jende_> timothy: what card are you havin'?
[12:19] <OOD> np
[12:20] <yokobr> please, can u gimme that link again, 00D, crash happened here
[12:20] <TheGateKeeper> Elwyn: you need a repo for ntfs-3g?
[12:20] <OOD> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:20] <jende_> !flash9
[12:20] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:20] <OOD> :P
[12:20] <batousaix19> look for it in adept 1st
[12:20] <timothy> jende: its a Dell TrueMobile 1400 with the BCM4309 chip
[12:20] <Elwyn> @theGateKeeper, repo?
[12:21] <TheGateKeeper> Elwyn: repositories is what linux uses for installing software
[12:21] <jende_> timothy: have a look: http://arclite.dyndns.org:8080/~chris/d800/d800.html
[12:21] <TheGateKeeper> !repos
[12:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:21] <mikeeagles> kay. I've got it hooked up again.
[12:21] <TheGateKeeper> Elwyn: ^^^
[12:21] <Elwyn> oh yep
[12:21] <lainproliant> i have a software related question
[12:22] <lainproliant> i am running software (GENS, rewritten to use OpenGL surfaces) and within both it and the normal GENS there is sound lag
[12:22] <lainproliant> other than this there are not issues
[12:22] <lainproliant> what do you think could be causing this?
[12:22] <jende_> mikeeagles: so you have rebooted yur box with he LiveCD?Menas you couldn't reboot it just with the old system?
[12:23] <TheGateKeeper> Elwyn: for when you get (k)ubuntu installed ---> repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[12:23] <mikeeagles> No, I reinstalled the hd that has kubuntu on it.
[12:23] <Elwyn> ohk, thanks.
[12:23] <mikeeagles> It's up and running.
[12:24] <jende_> mikeeagles: now type in the console lsmod | grep acx
[12:25] <lainproliant> hmm, maybe its a sound driver issue
[12:25] <lainproliant> the sound quality is perfect, but it lags about 50-100ms
[12:25] <lainproliant> well, probably more than that
[12:25] <lainproliant> about 250-300ms
[12:25] <mikeeagles> Okay now what?
[12:25] <jende_> mikeeagles: now type in the console lsmod | grep acx
[12:26] <mikeeagles> I did.
[12:26] <jende_> mikeeagles: what's the output?
[12:26] <Elwyn> If an instruction says "open a terminal and type..." is a terminal the same as Konsole?
[12:27] <lainproliant> yes
[12:27] <Elwyn> k
[12:27] <lainproliant> Konsole is a KDE frontend for bash
[12:27] <Elwyn> ohk.
[12:27] <Elwyn> thanks
[12:27] <lainproliant> yw ^_^
[12:27] <zorglu_> that's a way to put it :)
[12:27] <lainproliant> lol
[12:28] <lainproliant> sorrie if that isn't exactly correct, i'm still new with Linux myself
[12:28] <mikeeagles> acx 101132 0   usbcore 130820 7 usbhid,usblp,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,acs.uhci_  hcd
[12:29] <Elwyn> well, im off now, thanks everyone for all your help
[12:29] <lainproliant> byebye Elwyn
[12:30] <jende_> mikeeagles: okay, I'm not quite sure if we should remove that right now, but as we wanna start from the beginning, we will see later on if we have to remove that file. however we start with:
[12:30] <squarepusher> Hi, how can I get KDE's "Open With" dialog box to accept a command-line executable and its arguments? Is this documented somewhere? My Google searches are blowing... I want *.flac to open up in cmus-remote. The syntax is cmus-remote -i <filename(s)>
[12:30] <jende_> mikeeagles: sudo wget http://www.hauke-m.de/fileadmin/acx/fw.tar.bz2
[12:31] <lainproliant> hmm
[12:31] <cpk2> squarepusher: why not just use konsole?
[12:31] <jende_> mikeeagles: followed by: sudo wget http://www.hauke-m.de/fileadmin/acx/acx-20060521.tar.bz2
[12:31] <mikeeagles> I'm not online so I won't be able to get it.
[12:32] <lainproliant> write a script maybe? that takes a parameter that is the filename of the file you want to work with
[12:32] <squarepusher> cpk2: I do, but right now I'm feeling a bit lazy, and I've always wanted to know. But I just figured it out anyway. If you right click on the little icon near the dialog box, and click "What's this" it gives you all of the formats.
[12:32] <Zerb_Riss> guys, I just updated to Edgy but the system is booting to the console
[12:32] <Zerb_Riss> how do I get into KDE?
[12:32] <lainproliant> squarepusher: cool
[12:33] <jende_> lainproliant: unfortunately the modules/drivers for the acx series aren't built in modules
[12:34] <jende_> lainproliant: so you have to compile/build them by yourself
[12:34] <lainproliant> you mean mikeeagles jende_ ?
[12:34] <jende_> lainproliant: it lokked as like as you wede responding to mike's last posting. Sorry
[12:35] <jende_> lainproliant: it looked as like as you wede responding to mike's last posting. Sorry
[12:35] <lainproliant> ah that's fine
[12:35] <lainproliant> its okay
[12:35] <lainproliant> i had a question about why GENS has sound lag lol
[12:35] <edrex> Zerb_Riss: less /var/log/X.0.log may show you something if x is failing to start
[12:35] <mikeeagles> No problem guys.
[12:35] <lainproliant> and what i can do about it :P
[12:35] <lainproliant> if anything
[12:35] <lainproliant> my sound card is on board and runs an nVidia chipset
[12:36] <jende_> mikeeagles: what was it you installed yesterday and since you cant get connected to the world?
[12:36] <zorglu_> naively what is 'GENS' ?
[12:36] <lainproliant> ASUS A7N8X Deluxe board
[12:36] <edrex> oh he's gone
[12:36] <edrex> :P
[12:36] <lainproliant> GENS is just a Genesis emulator
[12:36] <zorglu_> oh ok
[12:36] <lainproliant> graphics are crystal perfect :P
[12:36] <lainproliant> but the sound is laggy
[12:36] <lainproliant> even if i turn the frequency all the way down
[12:36] <lainproliant> or rather the sample rate
[12:36] <zorglu_> lainproliant: what about the other apps, like video player. is the sound laggy too ?
[12:36] <lainproliant> not at all
[12:37] <mikeeagles> This morning you helped me to update my puter. Remember the removal of the hash marks, and multiverse universe stuff.
[12:37] <zorglu_> lainproliant: oh ok so it is due to the emulator itself
[12:37] <lainproliant> its kinda glitchy in ZSNES but that's probably ZSNES's fault
[12:37] <lainproliant> i am thinking it might have something to do with the sound libraries the emulator is using
[12:37] <lainproliant> most like sdl mixer
[12:37] <lainproliant> likely*
[12:37] <jende_> mikeeagles: ah well, to be honest...there were quite a few today...what was your nick this morning?
[12:38] <lainproliant> let me test some more apps
[12:38] <zorglu_> lainproliant: hmm the sdl sound stuff is used a lot... i mean so it is unlikely to be that bugged
[12:38] <mikeeagles> After the reboot the networking was gone and the only option it shows to configure is a dialup modem. No other options are available.
[12:38] <lainproliant> true
[12:38] <mikeeagles> Aha. I forgot. I was magicmike this morning.
[12:38] <mikeeagles> Sorry.
[12:39] <jende_> mikeeagles: Mr Magic...here we go
[12:39] <mikeeagles> Since I wasn't able to log on I had to use a regular irc client. Forgot what my name was. LOL
[12:40] <mikeeagles> I'm fried. I hope to catch you again in the morn and see where I am then. Have a great night.
[12:41] <oem> can anyone help me im stick in oem mode on kubuntu
[12:42] <lainproliant> this isn't that computer, but my friends laughed at me when i said i was going to pus Kubuntu on my Armada m300 laptop saying things like I would have catasrophic hardware/driver incompatabilities
[12:42] <lainproliant> when i finished installing they stopped laughing :P
[12:42] <jende_> mikeeagles: I have to lokk up some papers, as the acx doesn't seem to be a standard.Tomorrow I'll hae the solution for you, no worries
[12:42] <jende_> mikeeagles: I have to lokk up some papers, as the acx doesn't seem to be a standard.Tomorrow I'll have the solution for you, no worries
[12:43] <lainproliant> Kubuntu manages my wireless drivers (atheros chipset) magnitudes better than windows did
[12:43] <mikeeagles> Thanks. I appreciaite it.
[12:43] <lainproliant> okay testing Totem Movie Player now
[12:49] <word> flash 9!!!!!!!!
[12:49] <word> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[12:50] <lainproliant> no sound lag
[12:50] <lainproliant> not in Totem anyway
[12:50] <lainproliant> very very odd
[12:50] <jende_> BluesKaj: are you still around?
[12:50] <lainproliant> i will check all of the configuration options that GENS has and see if i can't find a hackaround
[12:50] <lainproliant> thanks everyone for your help ^_^
[12:50] <lainproliant> byebye for now
[12:50] <jende_> lainproliant: see ya
[12:52] <whyso> when i log in it says cannot load /HOME.drmc file to get default session, AND the login screen initially shows static at top and i have to scroll down to get to edit sessions, AND cant edit monitor settings from KDE :(((((((
[01:00] <M_A_K> How do I add packages in kubuntu (like synaptic in gnome)?
[01:01] <cpk2> M_A_K: to download things? you can use adept or even use synaptic or apt-get or aptitude
[01:01] <apokryphos> M_A_K: adept: kmenu -> system
[01:01] <M_A_K> I cannot find synaptic in the kmenu.
[01:02] <apokryphos> M_A_K: that's because it's called adept ;-)
[01:02] <cpk2> M_A_K: you need to download it first with adept
[01:02] <jende_> M_A_K: adept is your frind
[01:02] <jende_> M_A_K: adept is your friend
[01:02] <M_A_K> I see.  Ill give it a try.
[01:03] <cpk2> wow dvdauthor really seems to nuke my computer somehow
[01:04] <jende_> M_A_K: Michael if there should occur any probs just get back to us
[01:04] <cpk2> and gkrell doesnt even say I am using over half my cpu
[01:04] <jende_> cpk2: whooaaaaa...that's kinda weird
[01:05] <jende_> DjDarkman: howdy
[01:05] <jende_> cpk2: have you heard anything from that russian guy?
[01:06] <cpk2> no =\
[01:06] <cpk2> i was shaving & showering but i didnt get any messages
[01:06] <M_A_K> jende : can I use synaptic?  I don't see wine and as I recal,under synaptic I needed to add some repostories.
[01:06] <jende_> cpk2: well, I guess he made it though
[01:06] <cpk2> Sysinfo for 'snoresqueeze': Linux 2.6.15-27-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4806 bogomips), , RAM: 1243/1263MB, 109 proc's, 17.23h up
[01:07] <cpk2> M_A_K: go to view > manage repositories in adept
[01:07] <jende_> cpk2: you were faster...*g*
[01:08] <M_A_K> I dont know the address to enter in New Repository line.  In  synaptic, I just clicked on the ones to add.
[01:08] <menace> Is anyone here familiar with SWAP?
[01:08] <cpk2> M_A_K: this is what you want for bleeding edge wine deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[01:09] <M_A_K> What about stable (or as stable as can be)?
[01:09] <jende_> M_A_K: maybe you have to edit your sources.list
[01:09] <menace> !SWAP
[01:09] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[01:09] <menace> <3 that bot
[01:09] <M_A_K> Is synaptic installed or only if I install ubuntu?
[01:09] <cpk2> M_A_K: thats what you want, the wine package in the ubuntu repo is super old
[01:09] <jende_> add the line as given to you by cpk2 to yoour sources.list and you'll be fine
[01:10] <cpk2> something must be wrong...
[01:10] <M_A_K> jende_ : yes, for wine, but what about other apps I might want?  I dont know what repositores to add.
[01:11] <jende_> M_A_K: like what apps?
[01:11] <M_A_K> I am familiar with synaptic and am currently re-installing my system.  I need to get up and running.  I can take time to learn new later.
[01:11] <jende_> M_A_K: okay...do yu know how to modify your sources.list?
[01:12] <ubuntu> i have a real quick question about a dual boot system
[01:12] <whyso> whats key in konquror to view hidden folders
[01:12] <M_A_K> not really.
[01:12] <whyso> ubuntu: ask your question not ask to ask :)
[01:13] <ubuntu> i have 2 hardrives salved together...one with windows and the other i am trying to install kubuntu...will that work
[01:13] <ubuntu> i mean without hurting the wifes fules
[01:13] <cpk2> ok nevermind guess it did work, i have a 9 gig folder now
[01:14] <cpk2> M_A_K: its not hard to right click the repos in adept and choose enable
[01:14] <jende_> M_A_K: okay...here we go...open your sources.list by pressing ALT+F2 and then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <cpk2> nor is it hard to edit sources.list by hand
[01:14] <M_A_K> OK, open
[01:15] <ubuntu> anyone know if having the 2 drives together in a pc will effect the files on the windows setup with linux on the other
[01:15] <chab> ubuntu yea, everyone knows
[01:15] <M_A_K> should I just uncomment some of the items?
[01:15] <ubuntu> then tell me
[01:16] <belen> hi
[01:16] <M_A_K> Seems that some were commented out by installer because failed to verify.
[01:16] <belen> sorry i am not really how working these
[01:16] <belen> i am new
[01:16] <chab> ubuntu considering that you ask such a question, it'd be best to backup everything..or sell the pc...either way, the files will be fine..
[01:17] <jende_> M_A_K: compare yours with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27320/
[01:17] <krups> ubuntu: if you have a windows drive and you're adding a ubuntu - just be careful when you add partitions.
[01:19] <jende_> M_A_K: basically what you need to do is to delete a few hashes and also you should make sure that you have multiverse enabled as well
[01:20] <M_A_K> jende_ : all of mine were commented out.  I uncommented all since they were uncommented in your paste.  Thanks.
[01:20] <M_A_K> Now fetch updates in adept?
[01:21] <cpk2> M_A_K: yes
[01:21] <M_A_K> Yea.... :)  Thanks
[01:21] <whyso> i just switched to kde, and it cant change my display settings :( help?
[01:22] <jende_> M_A_K: yep
[01:22] <cpk2> whyso: cant how?
[01:22] <cpk2> whyso: cant pick a higer resolution? cant find the right menu?
[01:22] <whyso> cant do anything
[01:22] <whyso> in the right menu
[01:23] <cpk2> whyso: you are trying to get a higher resolution?
[01:23] <whyso> no, cant even see the settings
[01:23] <cpk2> oh its just completely blank?
[01:24] <whyso> says it cant load display settins
[01:32] <whyso> does synaptic work in kde?
[01:34] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:34] <LjL> whyso, yes, all Gnome apps also work in KDE, except that of course they'll install a big bunch of Gnome libraries
[01:36] <whyso> eew!
[01:36] <softmaster> how do i know if direct rendering is enabled and wmy renderer?
[01:36] <LjL> whyso, there is Adept in KDE. not quite exactly like Synaptic, but it's there.
[01:36] <whyso> k ty
[01:37] <whyso> anyone help me get my display settings working?
[01:37] <softmaster> how do i know if direct rendering is enabled and what is my renderer
[01:38] <softmaster> anyone knows the commands?
[01:39] <LjL> softmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[01:39] <softmaster> thanks
[01:45] <campbch> oye
[01:48] <campbch> how can i get the 915resolution program through a repository?
[01:48] <jende_> good night everybody
[01:49] <CVirus> campbch: I beleive I gave you a link before .. havent I ?
[01:54] <bLaZeD> does anyone know if there is a repo that has updated gtkpod debs?....
[01:56] <bLaZeD> i dont wanna have to compile it....but the one i installed with apt-get isnt letting me add videos to my ipod....but it did b4 with gtkpod...so im thinking the one that apt installed wasnt compiled with what i need....and hopeing to find a repo that has a diff one
[01:56] <bLaZeD> !gtkpod
[01:56] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[01:56] <campbch> yeah, later that night kubuntu crashed and wouldn't let me boot, so i'm back to square one
[01:56] <campbch> i found it though, thanks
[01:57] <bLaZeD> The latest stable version is V0.99.8 released on September 24th 2006
[01:59] <campbch> incredible.
[01:59] <timothy> hello
[01:59] <campbch> hello
[01:59] <timothy> i need help with my broadcom wifi
[02:00] <timothy> this is my first time using kubuntu
[02:00] <timothy> and the onyl thing that does nto work is my wifi
[02:00] <timothy> i tried using ndiswrapper
[02:00] <campbch> humm
[02:00] <timothy> but it does not connect to any networks
[02:03] <rawrness> Will it dectect networks?
[02:06] <BonBonTheJon> timothy: did you follow a guide
[02:08] <timothy> yes
[02:08] <timothy> i tried 2 different ones
[02:08] <timothy> it will sometimes see networks
[02:09] <timothy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[02:10] <campbch> why isn't build-essentials in the package manager? shouldn't it be?
[02:10] <BonBonTheJon> timothy: that link is not for ndiswrapper
[02:11] <timothy> i have another one
[02:11] <timothy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:11] <timothy> that i also tried
[02:11] <timothy> but no avail
[02:13] <arkady> hi! i've upgraded tonight to edgy. is safe to upgrade all those python-* packages and hpjs (that remove hplip-ppds and foomatic-filters)?
[02:13] <M_A_K> in adept, is Full Upgrade same as mark all upgrades in synaptic?
[02:14] <BonBonTheJon> timothy: I had a hard time with a broadcom card, maybe someone else can help
[02:14] <timothy> did youn get it working?
[02:14] <mattjunx> I have a question regarding authentication of apt repositories
[02:15] <BonBonTheJon> timothy: not really, I ended up getting a pcmcia card
[02:15] <BonBonTheJon> mattjunx: what is your problem
[02:15] <mattjunx> I've just re-created my chroot of edgy (via debootstrap), and it seems that absolutely NO packages can be "authenticated" according to apt-get
[02:16] <mattjunx> this problem happened to me in dapper, but I just ignore the authentication problem via something (can't remember where)
[02:19] <mattjunx> also, on an unrelated problem, what the crap is wrong with edgy? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27400/
[02:19] <mattjunx> I get that error when updating or installing pretty much anything
[02:21] <rawrness> itsin beta :P
[02:21] <Jucato> rawrness: actually, RC has been released
[02:21] <rawrness> it has?
[02:21] <pointwood> I'm thinking about upgrading from dapper to the new RC, I'm conserned about the unoffical repositories - my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27401/
[02:21] <Jucato> yes
[02:21] <rawrness> my bad
[02:21] <bLaZeD> !gtk2.0
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <Jucato> mattjunx: could you try asking around in #ubuntu+1 ?
[02:22] <mattjunx> doing that
[02:22] <mattjunx> thanks
[02:22] <waspius> hello..i am running kubuntu on a laptop with 512mb ram..but the applications and everything are running quite slow...and allot slower in comparison to windows..if i get a bigger ram will the problem be solved or do i need to do something else..
[02:22] <Jucato> pointwood: the repos for KDE, Amarok, and KOffice would probaby be OK, as those are the versions used by Edgy. I'm just not so sure about the PLF and dapper-commercial ones
[02:22] <Jucato> heck I'm not sure if there's an edgy-commercial
[02:23] <sebsebseb> how do I get
[02:23] <sebsebseb> Windows Media Player
[02:23] <sebsebseb> web radio
[02:23] <sebsebseb> playing in Konqueror?
[02:23] <Jucato> rawrness: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/RC/Kubuntu
[02:23] <sebsebseb> in Firefox I have already done this,  but what about Konq?
[02:23] <pointwood> Jucato: yeah, I would expect to not needing the amarok and koffice repos
[02:23] <pointwood> and kde
[02:24] <El> Hey, can anyone tell me how to make my mounted NTFS partitions writable?
[02:24] <Jucato> !ntfs
[02:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:24] <Jucato> El: ^^^^
[02:24] <waspius> anyone?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb:  web radio = streamtuner ...very good app
[02:24] <El> k, thnaks, il have a look
[02:25] <Jucato> waspius: that's strange. with 512MB RAM KDE does a decent, if not faster, job than XP on my system
[02:25] <El> I thought the linux ntfs driver didnt suppiort writing to ntfs though :/  *ereads*
[02:25] <Jucato> err I didn't see the "writeable" part
[02:25] <waspius> Jucato: :(
[02:25] <campbch> ick
[02:25] <Jucato> El: yeah the standart ntfs driver doesn't support/recommend. but there are other experimental drivers that allow it
[02:25] <Jucato> I just forgot what they're called
[02:25] <pointwood> yeah
[02:25] <El> hmmk
[02:25] <campbch> if i were to download kdevelop using the adept manager, it would get the required libraries and such itself, correct?
[02:25] <pointwood> it should be pretty good actually
[02:26] <Jucato> campbch: it should
[02:26] <campbch> ok
[02:26] <pointwood> though of course, no promise that it wont corrupt your partition ;)
[02:26] <El> i think its called ntfs-3 or ntfs-g or something like that
[02:26] <Jucato> ah ntfs-3g
[02:26] <campbch> that's a) but b) why is it saying it can't install?
[02:26] <Jucato> hm...
[02:26] <El> thats it :p
[02:26] <Jucato> campbch: apt-get might give you a more detailed error message output
[02:27] <campbch> alright...
[02:27] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[02:27] <pointwood> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-3g
[02:27] <Jucato> but the first thing I would check is your sources.list/Manage Repositories
[02:27] <Jucato> !kdevelop
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <pointwood> ntfs ^^^
[02:27] <El> pointwood: thanks
[02:27] <Jucato> what the hell?
[02:27] <campbch> it says it couldn't lock the admin directory
[02:28] <BonBonTheJon> !kdevelop3
[02:28] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:28] <campbch> how do i release that from whatever other program is stopping it?
[02:28] <Jucato> oh yeah lol thanks BonBonTheJon
[02:28] <Jucato> campbch: is Adept still running?
[02:28] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: your welcome
[02:28] <campbch> *cough*
[02:29] <campbch> depends on autoconf and automake, but it says they are not installable... ill try those individually
[02:29] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj:  What is streamtuner exactly?
[02:29] <campbch> autoconf has no installation candidate
[02:29] <campbch> why cant it be installed?
[02:29] <Jucato> campbch: can you pastebin the error messages from installing kdevelop3 ?
[02:30] <Jucato> I'm beginning to think that there may be some problems with your repositories list
[02:30] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb: streamtuner is web radio directory browser that uses the xmms player
[02:31] <sebsebseb> what's a web radio directory browser exactly?
[02:31] <Jucato> heh BluesKaj, better start talking in plain English :P
[02:32] <BluesKaj> it'lists several web radio stations like those in Shoutcast that one can tune in a nd listen to
[02:33] <El> hmm, i donno if im knowledgeable enough to get ntfs-3g working, so il outline my main problem and see if anyone can help.
[02:33] <El> My windowsXP instilation is corrupted, (lol, typical eh?), and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but thats getting tricky, with this whole ntfs driver thing. So any suggestions on how to save my files?
[02:33] <campbch> using paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[02:33] <campbch> how i despise the university wireless network
[02:33] <campbch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27403/
[02:33] <campbch> gotchya
[02:35] <campbch> i got lost with the sebs, can't count them allllll...
[02:35] <Jucato> campbch: hmm... strange...
[02:35] <pointwood> here goes nothing :)
[02:35] <Jucato> campbch: can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:35] <campbch> i have bad luc :(
[02:35] <campbch> k
[02:35] <pointwood> I probably should wait for the final release, but hey :)
[02:35] <Jucato> campbch: use !pastebin again :)
[02:36] <Jucato> pointwood: RC is *almost* as good as the final release
[02:36] <campbch> :D
[02:36] <pointwood> yeah :)
[02:36] <cellofellow> what's the easiest way to install Sun Java runtime and developing stuff?
[02:36] <Hail_Spacecake> how do I check to see if ubuntu recognizes my wlan card?
[02:36] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm pretty sure that it does
[02:37] <Jucato> !java
[02:37] <cellofellow> I tried to do it once but it just didn't work.
[02:37] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:37] <TubaSoldier> cellofellow. you can get sdk and jee from sun.com
[02:37] <Jucato> cellofellow: ^^^^
[02:37] <Hail_Spacecake> because it lists two enteries in iwconfig
[02:37] <campbch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27406/
[02:37] <Hail_Spacecake> but I can't seem to figure out how to raise the network
[02:37] <cellofellow> Jucato: thanks, I was already looking at that, but I tried that before and things kind of went sour. I'll try again though. ^_^
[02:38] <campbch> c(-_-v)
[02:38] <Jucato> cellofellow: the wiki for Java? I tried that. never had problems. just don't install using Adept. use apt-get in Konsole
[02:38] <cellofellow> Jucato: would aptitude have the problems too? I used it before.
[02:39] <campbch> life is grand.
[02:39] <cellofellow> From command line, no as an app.
[02:39] <Jucato> cellofellow: nope. that would even be better :)
[02:39] <cellofellow> ok
[02:40] <cellofellow> Jucato: you're right. It says it's ok to use synaptic in Ubuntu but to use apt-get in kubuntu.
[02:40] <campbch> i gotta get used to the command line still :o
[02:40] <Jucato> :)
[02:40] <Jucato> campbch: still trying to see what's wrong...
[02:40] <campbch> take your time
[02:41] <mike> help with installing java on kubuntu please
[02:41] <Jucato> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:41] <Jucato> mike: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:41] <campbch> is sources.list standard? would it matter if i replaced it with a functional one?
[02:41] <campbch> assuming it's nonfunctioning, that is
[02:41] <Jucato> campbch: your is quite functional, as far as I can tell
[02:42] <campbch> :o
[02:42] <campbch> aight
[02:42] <cellofellow> Hey, just curios, what are the backports repos for? I don't have them enabled and haven't run into any problems, so I'm guessing their not too important.
[02:42] <El> My windowsXP instilation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but thats getting tricky, with this whole ntfs driver thing. So any suggestions on how to save my files?
[02:42] <Lam_> openoffice autoloads on system start up. how do i turn it off?
[02:42] <mike> no i have java installed but the plugin is not in my firefox plugins
[02:43] <mike> Jucato: i have java but its not in firefox plugins
[02:43] <mike> directory
[02:43] <cellofellow> weird, Mine doesn't but I can't figure out how to get my OOo to start up to system tray automatically.
[02:43] <Jucato> cellofellow: backports would sometimes contain software updates that are not too important/critical to be put in the main dapper-updates repository. they're also optional
[02:44] <Jucato> Lam_: do you leave it open when you log out/shutdown?
[02:44] <mike> java is not working even though it is installed
[02:44] <cellofellow> When I've installed Java, how do I tell Firefox (swiftfox actually) and OpenOffice to use the Sun VM?
[02:45] <Jucato> mike: but it's working in Konqueror?
[02:45] <mike> let me see
[02:45] <Jucato> cellofellow: in the Java wiki, there's a section there about setting the Default Java version. you'd have to do that
[02:45] <Jucato> same goes for you mike.
[02:45] <danny500> is there a wmv player for linux?
[02:46] <cellofellow> danny500: try the w32codecs library
[02:46] <Jucato> danny500: if you install the w32codecs, any media player can
[02:46] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[02:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:46] <Jucato> danny500: ^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:46] <danny500> thanx man
[02:46] <Lam_> Jucato: oh. i guess that might be it. lol thanks
[02:46] <danny500> woman, what ever
[02:46] <cellofellow> They took it out of the repos. I had to manually download and install it after my reinstall.
[02:46] <Jucato> cellofellow: for OO.o, I think you also have to manually set it up to use Sun Java
[02:47] <mike> Jucato: well it kina works in kongere it load the java box but not the content in it, it went further then firefox though
[02:47] <Jucato> danny500: definitely a man, last I checked myself :)
[02:47] <danny500> lol
[02:47] <Jucato> mike: have you done the step for choosing the default Java version that I mentioned? it's in the Java wiki
[02:47] <Jucato> Lam_: most probably :)
[02:48] <Jucato> cellofellow: w32codecs is really not found in the official Ubuntu repos. for legal reasons
[02:48] <mike> Jucato: that just said how to install, i didnt see steps for settign default
[02:48] <cellofellow> Will OO.o work any different with Sun compared to GNU whatever.
[02:48] <El> My windowsXP instilation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but thats getting tricky, with this whole ntfs driver thing. So any suggestions on how to save my files?
[02:48] <Jucato> danny500: you'd have to download the .deb file for w32codecs and install it either with sudo dpkg -i or right-click on it and use the Kubuntu Package Menu
[02:48] <Jucato> !java
[02:48] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:48] <cellofellow> Jucato: I know, but it used to be. Did someone threaten to sue?
[02:48] <Jucato> mike: scroll down a bit
[02:49] <Jucato> cellofellow: no. but it's good to be safe :)
[02:49] <mike> Jucato:  can u send me the link aagian
[02:49] <Jucato> mike, cellofellow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[02:50] <Jucato> cellofellow: the Sun Java might be a bit faster than GNU's
[02:50] <cellofellow> OK
[02:51] <BluesKaj> What's the secret to keeping my screensaver settings permanently ?  ...I lose them after every reboot :(
[02:51] <El> My Windows XP installation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but that's getting tricky, with the whole NTFS read/write driver issue. (I haven't been able to successfully install NTFS-3G). So any suggestions on how to save my files?
[02:52] <cellofellow> OO.o is so slow to start I might do it.
[02:53] <campbch_> ack d/c
[02:53] <campbch_> anyways
[02:54] <campbch_> if i want kdevelop, and it isnt installing properly, what should i do?
[02:54] <Jucato> campbch_: still no clue :(
[02:54] <campbch_> is there a kdevelop channel anywhere?
[02:54] <Jucato> campbch_: what command are you using btw? I think it should be "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3" ?
[02:54] <cellofellow> Is the Eclipse Java IDE any good?
[02:54] <campbch_> sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[02:54] <campbch_> yep
[02:55] <Jucato> hm... really strange...
[02:55] <campbch_> :'(
[02:55] <BluesKaj> !kdevelop
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <Jucato> did you just recently modify your sources.list before trying to install?
[02:55] <Jucato> !kdevelop3
[02:55] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:55] <campbch_> v(0_o)v
[02:55] <cellofellow> !Eclipse
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <cellofellow> !eclipse
[02:55] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[02:56] <campbch_> here, try this... could you paste your sources.list file to the bin?
[02:56] <campbch_> rather, the contents of
[02:56] <Jucato> ??
[02:56] <Jucato> campbch_: mine?
[02:56] <cellofellow> who? me?
[02:56] <campbch_> yeah, ill try it
[02:56] <campbch_> it's all the same repositories, and if i deleted something accidentally it will fix it
[02:57] <campbch_> ill make backups, just in case
[02:57] <cellofellow> campbch_: oh, ecplipse, I was looking into that for myself. sorry about that. :)
[02:57] <Jucato> campbch_: unfortunately, I'm not on Linux right now...
[02:57] <campbch_> :p
[02:57] <campbch_> the TRUTH!
[02:57] <cellofellow> Jucato: whatcha on? mac or bsd ok, windows BOO
[02:57] <campbch_> oh well
[02:57] <campbch_> maybe i can find another one
[02:58] <Jucato> XP lol
[02:58] <cellofellow> campbch: try using aptitude search packagename for Kdevelop. I know I could download it right now.
[02:59] <campbch_> ill try that in just a sec
[03:00] <[GuS] > Aurevoir...
[03:01] <Brydenn33> anyone here have FrostWire installed?
[03:01] <Brydenn33> i'm having some problems getting it to work
[03:02] <whyso> hmmm how come when i put in a CD in kubuntu it doesnt automoutn it
[03:03] <campbch_> so
[03:03] <rawrness> brydenn perhaps its java?
[03:03] <campbch_> what does it mean when the console says via apt that there is no release candidate for the package?
[03:04] <rawrness> I rembering something in the java wiki about seting something to make java based programs work right or somthing....
[03:04] <rawrness> OH  well my brain banks are corrupt anyhows
[03:05] <cellofellow> cambch_: it means it can't find anything that matches the package name
[03:05] <Jucato> strange, really strange...
[03:05] <cellofellow> !java
[03:05] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:06] <cellofellow> rawrness: ^^^^^^^^^
[03:06] <cellofellow> Jucato: all the java inquiries?
[03:07] <Jucato> huh?
[03:07] <cellofellow> Jucato: what was strange.
[03:08] <Jucato> campbch_'s troubles
[03:08] <cellofellow> Jucato: oh
[03:08] <cellofellow> has he checked his sources.list and updated his cache or whatever it's called?
[03:09] <Jucato> afaik, his sources.list are correct... maybe someone else could check
[03:09] <Jucato> campbch_'s sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27406/
[03:10] <cellofellow> Jucato: maybe kdevelop isn't available right now. I'd check but my apt is occupied at the moment.
[03:10] <Jucato> I'd check to. but apt doesn't exist in XP
[03:10] <seishinbyou> Hi, I connected here on startup.  I have no particular problems right now, but I thought I should at least say hello while I am here.
[03:10] <Jucato> seishinbyou: eheheh hi! :)
[03:11] <cellofellow> he's got universe in there twice. might that ess things up?
[03:11] <|redalert|> hello, im new to linux but is there any program that lists all the other programs installed on your system?
[03:12] <campbch_> i went and rebuilt sources.list from the source-o-matic on ubuntu :D pretty much just checked everything, and it still turns up the error
[03:13] <cellofellow> |redalert|: dpkg keeps a cache of installed programs and uninstalled programs. Adept uses it to create its list. Try that.
[03:13] <campbch_> redalert, go to Kmenu>system>adept
[03:13] <|redalert|> thanks
[03:13] <cellofellow> campbch_: did you apt-get update?
[03:13] <campbch_> view all programs and those which you have installed
[03:13] <campbch_> ill update and try agian
[03:13] <campbch_> again****
[03:15] <cellofellow> why do you guys always have such hard to type nicks?
[03:16] <cellofellow> flaccid: hi there. I STILL haven't gotten my Samba server going
[03:17] <flaccid_> cellofellow: you need to learn samba
[03:17] <Jucato> cellofellow: ?? Tab completion?
[03:17] <cellofellow> I know. I've been trying, but it's apain is the but to get Samba working in a peer-to-peer Windows 98 style network.
[03:18] <cellofellow> Jucato: konversation has tab completion?
[03:18] <Hawkwind> cellofellow: All IRC clients do nowadays
[03:18] <seishinbyou> Works here (in konversation)
[03:18] <seishinbyou> (re: tab completion)
[03:18] <cellofellow> ok
[03:18] <Jucato> cellofellow: of course :)
[03:19] <flaccid_> cellofellow: windows 98 style of network wtf
[03:19] <cellofellow> flaccid_: no controller, just a bunch of computers in the same workgroup like Windows 98 does by default.
[03:20] <flaccid_> cellofellow: thats default for a lot of operating systems. has nothing to do with windows 98.
[03:20] <flaccid_> tis called samba standalone
[03:21] <cellofellow> flaccid_: oh, ok. but if I do that then user mode in samba doesn't work cause Win98 won't let me put in a username.
[03:22] <flaccid_> cellofellow: you need to remove the saved samba password in windows 98
[03:22] <campbch> oh jeez
[03:22] <campbch> here's a new morsel
[03:22] <campbch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27411/
[03:22] <cellofellow> flaccid_: where is that?
[03:22] <campbch> i tried apt-get update
[03:22] <campbch> and it freaked out on me
[03:22] <cellofellow> flaccid_" it's not like windows has nice etc or home dirs.
[03:22] <campbch> saying gzip wasnt in gzip format, that there are corrupted files, ec
[03:22] <cellofellow> campbch: how so?
[03:22] <cellofellow> oops
[03:23] <cellofellow> campbch: before or after downloading the header updates?
[03:23] <campbch> hmm?
[03:23] <campbch> i just tried sudo apt-get update
[03:23] <campbch> what else should i try?
[03:23] <cellofellow> campbch: did it actually download anything?
[03:24] <campbch> yes
[03:24] <cellofellow> then what?
[03:24] <campbch> it downloaded to 99% of a gzip, and then said it wasnt in gzip format
[03:24] <campbch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27411/
[03:24] <campbch> it's all there
[03:25] <flaccid_> cellofellow: this isn't ##windows
[03:25] <cellofellow> flaccid_: I know, sorry. :-(
[03:25] <flaccid_> like i sad, learn samba :)
[03:25] <cellofellow> ok
[03:25] <flaccid_> said
[03:25] <flaccid_> then you can fix samba problems
[03:25] <Jucato> can someone help campbch? I'm getting dizzy with the apt problem... :(
[03:26] <campbch> jucato, have you seen round 2?
[03:26] <campbch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27411/
[03:26] <cellofellow> me too
[03:26] <campbch> why is this happening?
[03:26] <campbch> this is a fresh install
[03:26] <campbch> i only installed 915resolutions to fix my screen side
[03:26] <campbch> size*
[03:27] <Jucato> yeah..
[03:27] <Jucato> :(
[03:27] <campbch> is there something wrong with gzip?
[03:27] <cellofellow> campbch: well, apparently apt update files are gzipped and get piped through gzip. My system isn't getting corrupt files. Maybe your net connection? just a wild guess.
[03:28] <Jucato> campbch: you can try changing servers. drop the us.
[03:28] <campbch> that is a possibility
[03:28] <cellofellow> campbch: can you unzip or zip some gzipped file?
[03:28] <naegling23> hey, im having a problem with amarok, I was having a problem with amarok-xine, so I removed amarok, now I cant install it, I get a break install
[03:28] <campbch> because i am having problems with my connection...
[03:28] <Jucato> err.... why didn't you say so?
[03:28] <Jucato> it might have been a connection issue after all...
[03:29] <cellofellow> campbch: what kind of connection? what router? (if you've got one.)
[03:29] <campbch> because it was working, it wasnt saying unable to connect
[03:29] <campbch> it's a wifi connection
[03:29] <campbch> over the university wireless
[03:29] <Jucato> @_@
[03:29] <Jucato> oh...
[03:29] <campbch> but im in a dorm where it's being upgraded, and it's kinda shoddy ATM
[03:29] <Jucato> it might be a problem with routers or that kind of stuff
[03:29] <campbch> i didn't know it would corrupt the files
[03:30] <Jucato> I think apt-get has problems with routers... or whatever you call them
[03:30] <LjL> Jucato: DSL routers and that sort of thing?
[03:30] <campbch> then would adept work at all?
[03:30] <LjL> no, it's more like the routers have problems ;-)
[03:30] <LjL> some routers break APT because APT makes many DNS requests at a time, and the router's DNS server panics
[03:31] <LjL> the fix is to set your own ISP's DNS as the system DNS server, instead of the router
[03:31] <cellofellow> I had to set a different DNS server than my router, and use a static IP cause my router was mangling something on APT.
[03:31] <cellofellow> yeah, that's what I had to do.
[03:31] <campbch> ok, ill try something less volatile... is there a way to mass convert mp3s to .ogg files?
[03:31] <cellofellow> campbch: as for adept, no, it's a graphical apt-get frontend. no apt-get, no adept.
[03:32] <campbch> yep
[03:32] <campbch> sounds about right
[03:32] <campbch> thanks for trying to help, though
[03:32] <soulrider> anyone know if theres a way to add an http source to a torrent in azureus ?
[03:33] <cellofellow> campbch: find out what DNS server your router forwards to and use that.
[03:33] <campbch> how would i go about doing that?
[03:34] <BonBonTheJon> campbch: look into mp32ogg
[03:34] <cellofellow> campbch: try just connecting to it's IP address with your browser. If you can't get in cause of a password, ask the net admin guy.
[03:34] <campbch> how do i find out what the ip address of the dns server?
[03:34] <cellofellow> BonBonTheJon: he hasn't any apt at the moment so he can't download new programs.
[03:34] <Ashex> !static > Ash-Fox
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Ashex> Damnit!
[03:35] <cellofellow> campbch: it's usually 192.168.0.1 or similar.
[03:35] <Jucato> ??
[03:35] <Ashex> !staticip > Ashex
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about staticip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Jucato> Ashex: better just PM ubotu if you're not sure what you're looking for
[03:35] <campbch> 198.111.37.17 or .18
[03:35] <campbch> is that it? i found that in the network config
[03:35] <cellofellow> campbch: is that the gateway>
[03:36] <cellofellow> ?
[03:36] <campbch> i have no idea
[03:36] <cellofellow> campbch: in system settings => network, what does it say is the default gateway?
[03:36] <campbch> it says could not connect to host
[03:36] <campbch> one sec
[03:36] <cellofellow> campbch: under routing table or something.
[03:37] <cellofellow> campbch: or run a tracert to something like google and see what the first hop is. that's the gateway and should be the router.
[03:37] <campbch> 172.24.16.1
[03:38] <campbch> nope
[03:38] <campbch> web admin @ .......
[03:38] <cellofellow> campbch: they've got security enabled. ask the dorm staff.
[03:38] <campbch> ehh they outsource
[03:38] <campbch> this complicates things
[03:38] <campbch> owell
[03:38] <cellofellow> campbch: tracepath google.com should tell you the gateway.
[03:39] <cellofellow> campbch: can it be that hard to just find out the isp's dns server?
[03:41] <campbch> one sec....
[03:41] <eaguerra> hello
[03:41] <eaguerra> i need help with LINUX
[03:42] <BonBonTheJon> eaguerra: whats your problem
[03:42] <campbch> tracepath google.com gets 172.24.16.1
[03:42] <cellofellow> campbch: as the first hop?
[03:42] <campbch> as the first hop
[03:42] <eaguerra> I'm new user and need a tutorial o manual
[03:43] <BonBonTheJon> eaguerra: what are you trying to do
[03:43] <Jucato> eaguerra: Kubuntu has a nice manual installed by default. in K Menu > Help > Kubuntu Documentation
[03:43] <Jucato> it's not really a "manual", more of a guide
[03:43] <eaguerra> install aplications
[03:43] <rawrness> I am thinking if get hold of a fresh box  il make a flash tut for starting
[03:43] <eaguerra> thanks jucato
[03:44] <BonBonTheJon> eaguerra: look in the menu for adapt
[03:44] <rawrness> everything from install and media
[03:44] <BonBonTheJon> eaguerra: adapt is how you install programs
[03:44] <Jucato> *cough* Adept *cough*
[03:44] <campbch> linux is nooooooooooooooooooooooot an acronym :D
[03:44] <BonBonTheJon> eaguerra: of course, if you have any questions, you can come here and asl them
[03:45] <eaguerra> thanks
[03:45] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I'd don't even use what ever it is, I use Synaptic
[03:45] <Jucato> heh
[03:45] <campbch> well
[03:46] <campbch> as a definition, linux is an acronym
[03:46] <Jucato> ??
[03:46] <Jucato> no it's not
[03:46] <campbch> 1.  a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.
[03:46] <campbch> Linus's Unix --> Linux
[03:46] <Jucato> no
[03:46] <campbch> no?
[03:47] <campbch> where am i wrong?
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> Its true.
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> Campbch is right.
[03:47] <Jucato> Linux doesn't stand for anything except the folder where Linus stored the original Linux code
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> <.<
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> ugh.
[03:47] <campbch> >.>
[03:47] <Jucato> besides, if it was an acronym of Linus's Unix, then it would be LU
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> I smell a debate.
[03:47] <campbch> no
[03:47] <campbch> thats an acrostic
[03:47] <Jucato> oh well
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> Not necessarily
[03:47] <MegaMasterX> Linux is clever.
[03:47] <Jucato> yeah I saw the "loran" example
[03:48] <MegaMasterX> It's not as boring as LU
[03:48] <campbch> see that last example, loran from long-range nav
[03:48] <seishinbyou> Hmm, is there a way to exclude the "kicker" from the Application Switcher in Beryl?
[03:50] <campbch> why doesn't tracepath ever actually get to the end ip address?
[03:53] <campbch> if i man something, how do i unman it?
[03:53] <cellofellow_> campbch: I don't know it did that with google to me too. try something else.
[03:53] <cellofellow_> campbch: q
[03:53] <campbch> exit vim, whatever the viewer is?
[03:53] <campbch> k
[03:53] <campbch> the one and only button left to press...
[03:55] <cellofellow_> gtg, cya l8er. good luck campbch
[03:55] <campbch> thanks much
[03:55] <campbch> ick late
[03:56] <campbch> senegal fast food!
[04:02] <coreymon77> just curious
[04:02] <coreymon77> is there a hebrew kubuntu channel
[04:02] <Hawkwind> What's the country code for Hebrew ?
[04:02] <Hawkwind> hb, he ?
[04:02] <LjL> !he
[04:02] <ubotu>          
[04:03] <Hawkwind> Wow!  That's quite interesting looking
[04:03] <LjL> i don't see a channel there, though...? :o)
[04:03] <coreymon77> interesting
[04:03] <Jucato> eheh
[04:03] <coreymon77> i know exactly what it says
[04:03] <LjL> well, what does it say?
[04:03] <seishinbyou> Pretty squiggles.  Can't read them, but pretty nonetheless
[04:03] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: /msg chanserv list *kubuntu*  That will give you all the channels with *kubuntu* in the name
[04:03] <coreymon77> it means
[04:05] <coreymon77> for conversations in hebrew and to the meet the hebrew channel (literal: sentence community), go to
[04:05] <LjL> ...to?
[04:06] <coreymon77> thats it
[04:06] <coreymon77> no channel
[04:06] <LjL> blah
[04:07] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: Can you type in hebrew on your system ?
[04:07] <coreymon77> yup
[04:08] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: PM me something that would make sense and I can add it to the bot
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Add in a channel name too if you could
[04:09] <coreymon77> there is no channel
[04:09] <eaguerra> how run a script
[04:10] <coreymon77> hawkind: what ubotu is saying makes perfect sense
[04:10] <coreymon77> there just isnt a channel
[04:10] <Jucato> Hawkwind: the IRC wiki doesn't list a hebrew channel
[04:10] <coreymon77> not with the command you told me
[04:11] <coreymon77> ill try going to ircsearch.com and checking there though
[04:11] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: If you have others that speak Hebrew you could create one
[04:11] <coreymon77> i doubt there are enough people
[04:11] <coreymon77> and im not fluent
[04:11] <seishinbyou> hrmf, noone hanging around kubuntu-jp.  Guess I'll just sit there in the hopes someone else drops by some year
[04:11] <Jucato> hai
[04:11] <Jucato> :)
[04:12] <seishinbyou> 
[04:12] <Hawkwind> Squiglies!
[04:12] <seishinbyou> squiglies will save the world
[04:12] <Jucato> there are people hanging around in ubuntu-ph, but we have no kubuntu-ph :P
[04:12] <Jucato> I don't think we have enough users to have a channel of our own
[04:12] <BonBonTheJon> what is ph?
[04:12] <Jucato> Philippines
[04:13] <BonBonTheJon> oh
[04:13] <seishinbyou> So, Tagalog?
[04:13] <Jucato> a bit south of jp
[04:13] <Jucato> seishinbyou: yeah, and a few other dialects
[04:13] <seishinbyou> My coworker had to make a few trips there to sort out his Visa paperwork
[04:13] <seishinbyou> he told me about the dialects and cheap medication
[04:14] <Jucato> coreymon77: maybe the channels aren't by language, but by country/localization.
[04:14] <coreymon77>        
[04:14] <Jucato> for example there's an #ubuntu-il for Israel
[04:14] <Jucato> !il
[04:14] <ubotu>          
[04:14] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[04:14] <Jucato> see
[04:14] <coreymon77>      
[04:14] <rawrness> small channel
[04:15] <coreymon77> oh shit
[04:15] <coreymon77> whoops
[04:15] <coreymon77> forgot to change layout
[04:15] <coreymon77> s
[04:15] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat has a list of available channels
[04:15] <coreymon77> i meant
[04:15] <coreymon77> there is only one person there
[04:15] <max0> is there an irc channel for games for linux?
[04:15] <Jucato> whoa, why isn't kubuntu-jp listed then?
[04:16] <DBO> Jucato, some channels simply havnt been added to the list, feel free to do so however
[04:16] <seishinbyou> Heh
[04:16] <Jucato> oh
[04:16] <Jucato> or maybe the channel isn't registered yet?
[04:16] <Jucato> oh well
[04:17] <coreymon77> i dont think there are enough people who speak hebrew to make a channel
[04:17] <coreymon77> plus
[04:17] <coreymon77> i dont speak it fluently
[04:17] <coreymon77> english is my first language
[04:17] <Jucato> coreymon77: I think the convention is to use #ubuntu-CC naming, by localization, not by language
[04:18] <Jucato> from the wiki: "If you start a new local channel, please adhere to the #ubuntu-CC naming convention"
[04:19] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee80221 subsystem and make is giving me a strange error, "no rule to make target `modules'." Any help? See full paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27419/
[04:19] <coreymon77> i looked in kubuntu-il
[04:19] <coreymon77> it doesnt exist
[04:19] <coreymon77> if there were more people
[04:19] <coreymon77> maybe
[04:20] <coreymon77> but there isnt
[04:20] <Jucato> coreymon77: but #ubuntu-il does exist
[04:20] <coreymon77> ya
[04:20] <coreymon77> there is one peroon there
[04:20] <Zaire> anyone in here know where I can get some cool LInux Avatar packs?
[04:20] <Jucato> at least according to the wiki
[04:20] <digivore> !tar
[04:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:20] <Zaire> like avatar packs of the diff linux mascots and even of the bsd mascot
[04:21] <campbch> eck
[04:22] <seishinbyou> I don't know of any "packs".  You could do a google image search if you really wanted, I guess
[04:22] <campbch> what package is required to find mp3/info.pm and such? to be able to convert from mp3 to ogg?
[04:22] <coreymon77> BESIDES
[04:22] <coreymon77> sorry
[04:22] <coreymon77> didnt know caps was on
[04:22] <coreymon77> besides
[04:22] <digivore> is this correct syntax? :   tar -zxvf file.tar
[04:22] <coreymon77> most people who would want a hebrew channel would be israelis
[04:22] <Jucato> !mp32ogg
[04:22] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[04:22] <coreymon77> and there is the 7 hour time difference thing
[04:22] <Jucato> campbch: ^^^^^
[04:23] <campbch> ok.... i got mp32ogg, and it returned
[04:23] <campbch> an't locate MP3/Info.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5                                                                                                   .8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5                                                                                                   .8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at mp32ogg line 84.
[04:23] <campbch> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mp32ogg line 84.
[04:23] <seishinbyou> Time differences are nothing to worry about unless it involes dealing with family or clients
[04:23] <campbch> im looking for @inc, i think?,.....
[04:24] <Jucato> errr
[04:24] <bsnider> is anyone here using a router?
[04:24] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: i do at home
[04:24] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: are you there now?
[04:25] <campbch> ack never mind, ill just go to bed
[04:25] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: no, i am at school, but i also have a router here, why
[04:25] <campbch> better luck next time, eh
[04:25] <campbch> thanks jucato
[04:25] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: are you using linux now?
[04:25] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: yeah kubuntu dapper
[04:25] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: check the contents of you /etc/resolv.conf file
[04:26] <bsnider> what's the address of the first nameserver?
[04:26] <rawrness> leaving cyaall
[04:26] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: the ip of my router
[04:27] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: i need you to do something risky
[04:27] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: its a wireless router
[04:27] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: comment out that line
[04:27] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: and then try browsing
[04:27] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: what is that supposed to do
[04:27] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: it should have some effect on your browsing, making it faster or slower
[04:28] <seishinbyou> augh, php...rotting...brain...must escape
[04:28] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: i didn't really notice any difference
[04:28] <tony_> I need help installing KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu
[04:28] <bLaZeD> anyone i here using the newest gtkpod?
[04:28] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: i see
[04:29] <bsnider> tony_: what kind of help?
[04:29] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: go to the kubuntu website, there are instructions there
[04:30] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: what brand of router do you have at home?
[04:31] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: at home is a linksys wrt-54g with dd-wrt, here at school i have a belkin wireless-b router
[04:32] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: belkin?
[04:32] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: its my old router, it was cheap when i got it
[04:33] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: that's the brand i'm having trouble with here. there's a 10 second delay caused by the nameserver line, as if the router is genuinely acting like a nameserver
[04:34] <tony_>  I am a TOTAL Newbie and I am having a hard time following the directions on the site.
[04:35] <bsnider> tony_: describe your system currently ine xacting detail
[04:35] <tony_> PC stats wise or OS?
[04:36] <bsnider> OS
[04:36] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: I tried it agian, with sites i've never been before, and i didn't see much of a performance change
[04:37] <tony_> Kubuntu stock set-up. I put the disk in ....let it run...now here I am.
[04:37] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: but there's not a 10 second delay with the line uncommented, right?
[04:37] <omar> guys I saw a linux with a konsole as a wallpaper, do you know a how to for that, I can't find it , even with my friend google
[04:37] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: no difference between the two
[04:37] <bsnider> tony_: dapper or edgy? when did you install it?
[04:38] <tony_> Yesterday.
[04:38] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: is this a live cd, or did you install kubuntu
[04:38] <tony_> Full install.
[04:38] <bsnider> i'm not sure riddell's building 3.5.5 for dapper, or just edgy
[04:39] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: ok, open up konsol and run 'wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg'
[04:39] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: konsole*
[04:39] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: i have 3.5.5 running on dapper
[04:40] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: then he should have it automatically, unless he's not running his upgrades
[04:40] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: I had to add a repository
[04:40] <judgen> hi
[04:40] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon:  get edgy
[04:41] <judgen> how come dri does not work in edgy?
[04:41] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: I like dapper, plus I don't have a graphics card to do all the eye candy
[04:41] <tony_> I did that wget BonBonTheJon
[04:41] <bsnider> judgen: you may have to load the module manually
[04:41] <BonBonTheJon> omar: there is a console that pops down
[04:41] <judgen> bsnider: command?
[04:41] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: now do 'sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' to add the key
[04:42] <bsnider> judgen: if you know what the module name is, you can add it to /etc/modules, and then reboot
[04:42] <judgen> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:42] <omar> BonBonTheJon what do you mean
[04:42] <bsnider> judgen: for me, it's radeon
[04:42] <BonBonTheJon> omar: search your package manager for quake
[04:43] <tony_> BonBonTheJon: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[04:43] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: hmm, let's see if it still works
[04:44] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: was the repo 'kde-latest'?
[04:44] <judgen> bsnider, i have radeon loaded
[04:44] <bsnider> judgen: what's your graphics card?
[04:44] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: yeah
[04:44] <judgen> radeon 9800
[04:45] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: now in the command line do 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: then at the end put in 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main'
[04:45] <bsnider> judgen: i think that should be the proprietary ati drivers, unless you want aiglx
[04:45] <judgen> same error with fglrx
[04:45] <bsnider> judgen: open terminal and type "glxgears -printfps"
[04:46] <judgen> bsnider: what i get then is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
[04:47] <judgen> got some answer from a forum claiming that the dir structure in edgy has changed
[04:47] <bsnider> judgen: check the forum on that
[04:47] <judgen> and that is why it does not work the same way as dapper did
[04:48] <bsnider> judgen: i would try blowing away all of the hidden kde config directories, but don't blame me when you lose your settings
[04:48] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: what do like so much about edgy
[04:48] <tony_> BonBonTheJon: Bunch of errors... Can'nt connect to X Server etc....
[04:48] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: does it still open
[04:48] <seishinbyou> Edgy is great for me as hibernate/suspend *finally* works on my laptop
[04:49] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: fewer bugs, newer kernel
[04:49] <tony_> What?
[04:49] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: does kate open up
[04:49] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: kate is a text editor
[04:49] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: newer than 2.6.15-27
[04:50] <tony_> Yes...blank screen
[04:50] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: yes
[04:50] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: use the menu to open /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:50] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:51] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: it should have text in the file
[04:51] <tony_> Yes
[04:51] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: add the line 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main' it should look somewhat similar to the other lines
[04:52] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: what has changed, do you know
[04:52] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: sorry
[04:52] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: does amarok work right, because mine has been crashing a lot recently
[04:53] <tony_> Does it need a # in front of it like all the others/
[04:53] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: amarok works fine here
[04:53] <judgen> bsnider:  are you sure kde has anything to do with the accel of xorg?
[04:53] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: no, a # means it is disabled
[04:53] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: what was the crash message?
[04:53] <bsnider> judgen: no, but if directories have been moved, then your old settings might be pointing to the old locations
[04:54] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: you might want to remove the # in front of the other 'deb' parts, this will allow you access to more software
[04:54] <tony_> I pasted it and hit enter.
[04:54] <tony_> OK
[04:54] <bsnider> judgen: gnome didn't work for me until i blew away its old config directories
[04:54] <tony_> All of them?
[04:54] <igor> hey guys...there do you know that program that shou some information of the computer in the desktop...like memory...temperature.....
[04:54] <igor> :T
[04:54] <bsnider> igor superkaramba
[04:54] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: only before lines that have deb in them, the others are comments
[04:55] <igor> thanks
[04:55] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: it crashes when i start it up
[04:55] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: i'm trying it now
[04:55] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: try it fromt eh command line and read the output. the executable is "amarokapp"
[04:56] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: of course it works when i'm trying to explain the error
[04:56] <tony_> BonBonTheJon: OK...I did that.
[04:56] <bsnider> and try it as root using those settings, by preceding the command with "kdesu"
[04:56] <tony_> Do I save it?
[04:56] <Tarantulafudge> what can I use to control cpu scaling and view the temperature on my laptop processor
[04:57] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: yes, save it, then close kate, and you should be back to the console
[04:57] <tony_> Yes I am.
[04:57] <bsnider> tony_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: ok, now do 'sudo apt-get update' so the computer knows about it
[04:58] <bsnider> tony_: wait. sudo apt-get update first
[04:58] <seishinbyou> Tarantulafudge: There was one installed by default when I installed Kubuntu Edgy.  It uses a "PowerNow" Daemon
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: do you use kopete, is it better in edgy
[04:58] <ZeroCool> what is the best mp3 player for kubuntu, that intergrates well.
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: amarok
[04:58] <tony_> Updating....
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: it is installed by default
[04:59] <ZeroCool> understood, that
[04:59] <Tarantulafudge> seishinbyou: how do I use/open it
[04:59] <ZeroCool> but is it the best
[04:59] <ZeroCool> and why
[04:59] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: i do, and it's newer. there are improvements in two protocols, jabber and i think yim
[04:59] <tony_> It says Done.
[04:59] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: now do 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:59] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: its a lot more powerful than other players like xmms
[04:59] <bsnider> ZeroCool: because it is
[05:00] <ZeroCool> what about juk
[05:00] <ZeroCool> or kaffeine
[05:00] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: only thing I wish was if daap was better integrated
[05:00] <bsnider> ZeroCool: juk sucks
[05:00] <ZeroCool> k
[05:00] <ZeroCool> what about kaffeine
[05:00] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: I dont know about the others, but amarok can sync an ipod
[05:00] <seishinbyou> Tarantulafudge:  powernowd -h lists all the options, but the default settings are just fine
[05:00] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: ^^^
[05:00] <bsnider> ZeroCool: kaffeine is a video player
[05:01] <ZeroCool> and its plays audio
[05:01] <ZeroCool> using xine
[05:01] <ZeroCool> engine
[05:01] <bsnider> ZeroCool: kaffeine does not manage a media library using a database
[05:01] <Tarantulafudge> seishinbyou: my laptop is clocked at 500 (900 mhz processor) and its plugged into the wall
[05:01] <ZeroCool> heard that
[05:01] <ZeroCool> amarok uses sql
[05:01] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: yeah, it depends on if you organize your music, or if you want the software to
[05:01] <sorush21> how do I restart my kmenu its missing after I have booted in .. I mean the task bar
[05:02] <ZeroCool> how about 28,000 thousand in my collection
[05:02] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: There is no such thing as 'best media player'.  That is merely a personal opinion of everyone here.  Use many and see what *you* like best, not what others like or prefer
[05:02] <Hawkwind> sorush21: kicker
[05:02] <ZeroCool> read abov
[05:02] <ZeroCool> can it handle it
[05:02] <bsnider> ZeroCool: amarok can look up lyrics, sync ipods, look up artist info on wikipedia, use podcasts, and play radio streams
[05:02] <ZeroCool> or should I go and use mpd
[05:02] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: it should be able to handle it
[05:02] <ZeroCool> what about re-tagging
[05:02] <ZeroCool> automatic
[05:02] <seishinbyou> Tarantulafudge: Sort of like mine.  It is running at 600mhz whereas it is a 1.7 ghz processor.  It shoots up to 100% speed when I do anything processor intensive automatically anyways
[05:02] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: hows it coming
[05:02] <bsnider> ZeroCool: there's a tagger in amarok
[05:03] <ZeroCool> but is it automatic
[05:03] <tony_> BonBonTheJon: Its done.
[05:03] <tony_> Do I reboot?
[05:03] <Tarantulafudge> seishinbyou: how do i test that
[05:03] <bsnider> ZeroCool: how do you mean automatic?
[05:03] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: Try all of them, see what *YOU* like, not what others like
[05:03] <BonBonTheJon> ZeroCool: it can look up cover art automatically, granted it messes up sometimes
[05:03] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: yeah, you can restart to see if it worked...
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: not much will look different though
[05:04] <seishinbyou> Tarantulafudge: In your System Tray, if there is a "Power Manager" icon, hover your mouse over it, then do something processor intensive like reencode a video or something and check again
[05:04] <ZeroCool> have a sh_T load of tags, that need to be corrected.....
[05:04] <seishinbyou> Tarantulafudge: you can force settings through the command line if you want
[05:04] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: come back here after you restart
[05:04] <max0> does anyone know the xgl room?
[05:04] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: So use easytag
[05:04] <bsnider> ZeroCool: you need a tagging program
[05:04] <ZeroCool> yes, tell me more
[05:04] <ZeroCool> which
[05:04] <tony_> Thanks for the help/ I'll try to get back in here  to let you know if it worked. Thanks again.
[05:04] <ZeroCool> best
[05:04] <seishinbyou> Tarantulafudge: -u and -l can specify upper and lower CPU usage %
[05:04] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: No such thing as 'best'
[05:05] <ZeroCool> automatic
[05:05] <tony_> Right on
[05:05] <ZeroCool> close 2
[05:05] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: Search for 'easytag'
[05:05] <ZeroCool> k
[05:05] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: Actually, sudo apt-get install easytag
[05:05] <Hawkwind> ZeroCool: Then run it and use it. It's very simple and works wonders
[05:05] <max0> does anyone know the link to the xgl irc room
[05:05] <kalim86> hey anyone kno the name for Unbuntu?
[05:06] <Hawkwind> max0: #Ubuntu-XGL
[05:06] <kalim86> thank you
[05:06] <max0> thank you
[05:06] <BonBonTheJon> kalim86: what do you mean
[05:06] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: i think he means #ubuntu
[05:07] <ZeroCool> TKS ++
[05:07] <bsnider> i've got to choose a horror flick to watch tonight
[05:08] <softmaster> i had this error after updating my kubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27424/
[05:09] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: any luck
[05:09] <sorush21> hi i have a make error how do I debug it ?
[05:09] <softmaster> with many packages either?
[05:09] <tony_> Nothing looks different..
[05:09] <softmaster> any help
[05:10] <bsnider> softmaster: type sudo apt-get -f install in a terminal
[05:10] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: in any kde app, select the help, then about kde
[05:10] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: it should say 3.5.5
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> sorush21: can you pastebin your error
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin > sorush21
[05:11] <kalim86> anyone know much about ubuntu?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> sorush21: First of all, what are you trying to build/compile ?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> kalim86: All of us do, do you have a question ?
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> kalim86: whats your question
[05:11] <tony_> Adept is installing a bunch of updates.
[05:11] <bsnider> kalim86: god damn right
[05:11] <Hawkwind> !language
[05:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:11] <kalim86> ok i cant use my wireless card
[05:11] <softmaster> bsnider: it didn't fix the problem
[05:12] <kalim86> i have a acer and when i used winxp the light was on
[05:12] <kalim86> now its not and it doesnt work
[05:12] <kalim86> and i think the card is installed
[05:12] <bsnider> softmaster: sudo dpkg --configure-a
[05:12] <Hawkwind> !wireless > kalim86
[05:12] <kalim86> but i cant get it to connect
[05:12] <tony_> BonBonTheJon: 3.5.2
[05:12] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: what is it installing now
[05:13] <tony_> Looks like apps....
[05:13] <omar> guys mu "add/remove software" is gone
[05:14] <omar> I mean is not in the menu anymore
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: its probably installing 3.5.5 now
[05:14] <softmaster> bsnider: no use :(
[05:14] <omar> what's the command to get it back
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: there are a lot of updates for it
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> kalim86: are you fixing it okay
[05:14] <bsnider> softmaster: do a web search for the portion of the pastebin message that contained the "hash table" blurb
[05:16] <tony_> Yea...I think you're right....I just saw "Replacing Konquer" flash by...
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> omar: you dont really need that, unless you used it alot
[05:16] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: i think it downloaded like 107MB when I did it, so it might take a while
[05:16] <omar> BonBonTheJon got you, but just in case, what's the command to open it by konsole
[05:17] <BonBonTheJon> omar: you can install software with adept
[05:17] <BonBonTheJon> omar: i dont know how to get it back
[05:17] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: how to get what back?
[05:18] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: the 'add/remove software' from the menu
[05:18] <osiris> can onyone recomend an icon editor for kubuntu ?
[05:19] <sander> does anyone know how to set the default resolution for kdm?
[05:20] <BonBonTheJon> !kiconedit > osiris
[05:21] <bsnider> home run molina. cards up 3-1
[05:22] <hazard2> what package should I install to get gtk-config?
[05:24] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: i cant find anything about gtk-config
[05:25] <hazard2> Hrm...
[05:25] <hazard2> Maybe I'm just insane then...
[05:25] <bsnider> hazard2: what do you need it for?
[05:25] <hazard2> Thanks anyway.
[05:25] <hazard2> shxd
[05:25] <hazard2> a hotline client
[05:25] <hazard2> it seems to want it
[05:26] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: i did a package search and there is no gtk-config
[05:26] <bsnider> hazard2: hotline?
[05:26] <hazard2> its an old file sharing protocol
[05:26] <bsnider> hazard2: too old, i'd say
[05:27] <bsnider> hazard2: do you absolutely have to have it, or esle you'll die?
[05:27] <hazard2> hey, it works (since the death of my laptop though, its gotten harder to find a client)
[05:27] <hazard2> Well, its kinda how I print my homework...
[05:28] <hazard2> (send home to webserver, and then print on school PC)
[05:28] <bsnider> hazard2: you print your homework using a file sharing network?
[05:28] <hazard2> its not really a file sharing network
[05:28] <hazard2> there's a server, then clients connect to it, it isn't p2p or anything.
[05:28] <tony_> Bon
[05:29] <bsnider> hazard2: something tells me there's a better way of doing this. what about ftp?
[05:29] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: any news
[05:29] <hazard2> a pain to configure for me?
[05:29] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: yeah, setup an ftp server
[05:29] <hazard2> I have a webserver.
[05:29] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: setting up ftp probably would be less work than getting shxd to work
[05:30] <bsnider> hazard2: you probably wouldn't need to secure it though
[05:30] <hazard2> But I can't get apache to share folders on network shares from windows PCs (which hotline does just fine)
[05:30] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: use samba to share the folder
[05:30] <tony_> BonBonTheJon: It worked...the only thing is the font changed...like it reminds me of Mozilla back in the day. How do I get it back to how it was before? It looked "cleaner"?
[05:30] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: thats how i edit my web site
[05:30] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: not on the internet!
[05:30] <hazard2> nononoo BonBon
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> bsnider: i know not on the internet, but on my local network
[05:31] <hazard2> I'd need APACHE to HOST pages ON network volumes
[05:31] <hazard2> Well, that dosen't help me any now does it?
[05:31] <hazard2> (and yes, I already do)
[05:31] <hazard2> (on the home local network)
[05:32] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: go into the control panel and look around the appearence section about anti-aliasing
[05:32] <bsnider> hazard2: ftp is the best way to do it
[05:32] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: maybe look into webdav
[05:32] <malcolm> how do i get the system time from the kernal?
[05:33] <hazard2> webdav works too, but its locking mechnism is to anal to let other home network stuff to work right.
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> malcolm: the first part of 'uptime' gives the time
[05:33] <hazard2> (and I do use webdav, I've found that hotline [before laptop death]  was more stable and faster)
[05:34] <hazard2> of course, I can't do what I need using webdav at the moment.
[05:34] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: i have samba for local network, and ftp for internet
[05:34] <hazard2> here's the thing with FTP: the OSX implementation of it is irratating.
[05:34] <hazard2> (and I've never used it on linux, so I don't know_)
[05:35] <hazard2> but either way that'd require configuration changes....AT HOME...
[05:35] <hazard2> which I can't do right now.
[05:35] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: thats why you need ssh
[05:35] <bsnider> hazard2: you could try forcing the installation
[05:35] <BonBonTheJon> tony_: did you find anti-aliasing
[05:35] <hazard2> I specifically _DISABLED_ ssh on the server.
[05:36] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: you can disable ssh for the root, that helps deter hackers
[05:36] <hazard2> 'helps' how about, no ssh 'stops'
[05:36] <coreymon77> goodnight everyone
[05:36] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: and you can specify who are the only users who can ssh in
[05:37] <hazard2> I know.
[05:37] <hazard2> but my view on security is less stuff, less risk.
[05:37] <bsnider> hazard2: as long as you've got a hell of a good password, it's fine
[05:37] <hazard2> and ssh _CAN_HAVE_ lots of system access.
[05:37] <coreymon77> gnight
[05:37] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: or, if you are behind a router/firewall, disable the port for ssh, except when you need it
[05:37] <coreymon77> gtg
[05:37] <hazard2> I try to keep it so that NO network service can actually do anything destructive.
[05:37] <BonBonTheJon> bye coreymon77
[05:38] <coreymon77> gnight
[05:38] <hazard2> 'night corey
[05:38] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: remember, these are only suggestions, you dont need to do any of it
[05:39] <hazard2> I know :)
[05:39] <Ashex> So, I've got this really irritating issue with the kbars
[05:39] <Ashex> they like to randomly freeze up
[05:40] <Ashex> it doesn't respond to anything i do for like, 10 seconds
[05:40] <Age1172> help
[05:40] <BonBonTheJon> Age1172: what is your problem
[05:41] <Age1172> i had kubuntu installed on my other machine
[05:41] <BonBonTheJon> Ashex: what is kbars
[05:41] <Age1172> and after update it doesnt logon to gui
[05:41] <hazard2> BonBonTheJon: do you know how to remove an entry from the system settings menu?
[05:41] <Age1172> it gives an error
[05:41] <BoganKiwi> I installed kubuntu but i want gnome/ubuntu as a session ...how do I add it on to kubuntu?
[05:41] <BoganKiwi> plz
[05:42] <Ashex> BonBonTheJon, the menu on the bottom
[05:42] <Ashex> I have another one on the left-side
[05:42] <Ashex> er, panels
[05:42] <Ashex> that's what I meant to say
[05:42] <hazard2> ah, as I suspected, gtk-config is part of gtk (basepkg)-dev
[05:43] <Ashex> BoganKiwi, sudo apt-get install gnome
[05:43] <BoganKiwi> thanks
[05:43] <BonBonTheJon> BoganKiwi: install ubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <Ashex> and when you login, click the little drop down bar and select Gnome as your session
[05:43] <BoganKiwi> ubuntu-desktop doesnt seem to work
[05:44] <Ashex> I believe kde uses ubuntu-desktop too, so you need to install gnome itself
[05:44] <BoganKiwi> E: Package gnome has no installation candidate
[05:44] <BonBonTheJon> Ashex: kubuntu should use kubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <Ashex> Age1172, what's the error
[05:44] <Ashex> BonBonTheJon, good point
[05:44] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: what are you trying to do
[05:44] <Age1172> that is the error : xsession: warning:unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
[05:44] <Ashex> BoganKiwi, enable multiverse
[05:44] <BoganKiwi> ok
[05:45] <BonBonTheJon> Ashex: ubuntu-desktop should be in main
[05:45] <bsnider> BonBonTheJon: he didn't try ubuntu desktop he tried gnome
[05:46] <BonBonTheJon> Age1172: log in and do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and see if that fixes it
[05:46] <BonBonTheJon> Ashex: i dont know about the kbar problem
[05:46] <Age1172> this problem happened after update
[05:46] <hazard2> I removed all the bluetooth stuff from the system, but the icon for the bluetooth control panel is still there in the system settings
[05:46] <Ashex> man, if i can't figure it why the panels keep freezing up, i might have to reinstall or something :/
[05:46] <Ashex> :( nutters
[05:47] <hazard2> its annoying more than anything, and it seems stupid if I can't remove it.
[05:47] <BonBonTheJon> hazard2: i dont know if you can
[05:47] <Ashex> bsnider, it sounds like he just doesn't have permissions to /tmp as a regular user
[05:47] <hazard2> heh, go figure
[05:47] <Ashex> maybe a chmod?
[05:47] <bsnider> Ashex: everyone has permissions to /tmp, that's the point
[05:48] <BonBonTheJon> Age1172: when you log in, then do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:48] <Ashex> bsnider, yeah, he would have way more problems if he didn't have access
[05:48] <Age1172> ok i'll try
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[05:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. anyone noticed an easysource like site for normal debian?
[05:52] <Ashex> google?
[05:52] <plugs> I have some questions about video editing.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> doing that now.. i  just liked how easysource worked.. not finding one similer.
[05:53] <plugs> First, is there a way to take frames and turn them into a video file?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I thought i saw that option with ffmpeg plugs
[05:53] <plugs> i'll look into thta
[05:53] <MasterEvilAce> anyone else using APT-GET and having problems upgrading a bunch of python-egenix packages?
[05:54] <MasterEvilAce> they're being held-back
[05:54] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: if there are help back, do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:55] <plugs> aaack!
[05:55] <MasterEvilAce> BonBonTheJon: i've done that many times.. they're still getting held-back for some reason
[05:55] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: hmm
[05:56] <plugs> i can't use sudo cause my clock was off and the last time it was used is tomorrow
[05:56] <MasterEvilAce> Running Edgy, btw
[05:56] <plugs> and you need sudo to change your clock.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> hmm... i cant say that ive ever seen that happen plugs  and ive had clocks set to all sorts of times.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> sudo -s    perhaps.. or reboot and set the time in the bios. :)
[06:00] <Ashex> Ooooo
[06:00] <Ashex> I just discovered a feature!
[06:00] <plugs> weird
[06:00] <plugs> check this out then Dr_willis
[06:00] <Ashex> scrolling the middle wheel at the top cycles through windows
[06:00] <BonBonTheJon> Ashex: whereever there are tabs, you can scroll through them
[06:00] <plugs> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 20 22:41:09 2006
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Ashex,  :)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ya can set it up do scroll anywhere on the desktop that way.. or over the desk-pager
[06:07] <ubuntu> In edgy eft, does anyone know how to turn off the bouncy cursor icons when a program is loading?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Thats a kde panel/feedback settings - in the menus/somewhere. :)
[06:09] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: go in to the control panel, then look in appearance fo 'launch feedback"
[06:09] <Dr_willis> ricght click on the panel, look in those menus :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> "Linux: Explore your OS" :)
[06:11] <ubuntu> That's funny, that's where I was looking, but it is definitely not there.  I just have Colors, Fonts, GTK Styles and Fonts, Font Installer, Icons, Style, and Window Decoration.
[06:12] <Ashex> in edgy?
[06:13] <Ashex> I want to say style>effects in appearance
[06:14] <ubuntu> Ashex: It's not there either.
[06:15] <ubuntu> Strange thing is if I type feedback in the search textarea, It says that there is one found in General, but all the icons are gray.
[06:17] <Ashex> yeah, i'm not finding it
[06:19] <ubuntu> Ashex: when you click on Monitor & Display, do you get the message "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"?
[06:20] <Ashex> Yup
[06:20] <Ashex> weird, worked before for me
[06:21] <us> Has anyone here used systemrescuecd?
[06:22] <moj0rising> it is a cd with a lot of (guess) recue tools.
[06:22] <moj0rising> rescue
[06:24] <mrvw0169> ubuntu: hit alt+f2, type in kcontrol
[06:24] <mrvw0169> look at appearance>launch feedback
[06:24] <Dr_willis> systemrescuecd - has saved my backside a few times. :)
[06:24] <jbeitler> hello hello
[06:25] <ubuntu> mrvw0169: ah thank you.  That bouncy icon was going to drive me crazy.
[06:25] <mrvw0169> lol
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Phear the Bouncy Icon!
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <ubuntu> Interestingly I don't get an error when going to Monitor & Display via kcontrol.
[06:28] <_pansatoy_> hello
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[06:28] <BonBonTheJon> moo?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Muu!
[06:29] <Dr_willis> fortune | cowsay
[06:29] <en1gma> hey all got a Q
[06:30] <en1gma> what amount of space do i need to a hd install
[06:30] <unix_infidel> how much do you have?
[06:30] <BonBonTheJon> en1gma: it depends on how much you want to put on it
[06:30] <BonBonTheJon> en1gma: you could do as little as maybe 5GB
[06:31] <en1gma> i have a 2gig hd that has a 512MB swap
[06:31] <en1gma> as little as 5GB???????
[06:31] <unix_infidel> en1gma: how much physical RAM
[06:31] <en1gma> 256mb
[06:31] <judgen> where can i get cgwd for edgy?
[06:31] <en1gma> and a 2.8ghz ht proc
[06:31] <unix_infidel> en1gma: you wont be able to put gnome or kde on there.
[06:31] <en1gma> bad mix eh
[06:31] <en1gma> crap i was wanting kde
[06:32] <BonBonTheJon> en1gma: it should work on 2gig, but you'll be very restricted
[06:32] <unix_infidel> en1gma: RAM is expensive currently.
[06:32] <en1gma> maybe i shouldnt do kubuntu
[06:32] <Hawkwind> !info cgwd edgy
[06:32] <ubotu> Package cgwd does not exist in edgy
[06:32] <Hawkwind> judgen: Doesn't seem to be in any repo.  Probably have to search google for it
[06:33] <judgen> what do i use instead then?
[06:33] <judgen> does not compiz/xgl depend on it?
[06:33] <MotorCitymadMan> helo:error using k3b:Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root. ISO burned fine. this can be ignored or does this need action ?
[06:34] <Hawkwind> judgen: Might ask in #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel or in #Ubuntu-XGL
[06:35] <T3hWiz0rd> errr isn't tihs a dapper channel?
[06:35] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: More or less in a lot of ways.  But if we know the answer to Edgy questions we would certainly answer them
[06:41] <digivore> how do i install a .rpm file?
[06:42] <tupac> 
[06:43] <digivore> !rpm
[06:43] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:44] <Hawkwind> digivore: You don't install rpm's on Kubuntu.  You use .deb files
[06:44] <judgen> hmm i only have xgl in windowed mode.. and kdm seems to have borked completley
[06:44] <Hawkwind> digivore: I wouldn't recommend using alien at all.
[06:47] <ricky> how is the world today?
[06:47] <ashwin_> boring
[06:47] <ricky> spinning around of course
[06:48] <ricky> why boring
[06:48] <jita> How to remove openoffice office sompletely so that it wont show up while doing dist-upgrade?
[06:49] <Ashex> anyone have experience sharing a printer in samba?
[06:49] <Ashex> I'm using kcontrol to set it up
[06:49] <Ashex> I've gotten it to the point of where I can add the printer on my laptop
[06:49] <Ashex> but I get access denied
[06:51] <ricky> wath stands  kubuntu for? (pardon my ask)
[06:52] <T3hWiz0rd> ricky: ubuntu means kindness to humans
[06:52] <Ashex> K stands for KDE
[06:53] <ricky> ok fine
[06:54] <ricky> this is mexico   ( where all of you you are)
[06:54] <seishinbyou> what's this, we all magically transported to Mexico?
[06:54] <Ashex> tequila!
[06:54] <ricky> yes you are
[06:55] <ricky> tequila sounds good
[06:55] <seishinbyou> just finished lunch...tequila might not be bad
[06:55] <ricky> cerveza sounds better
[06:55] <seishinbyou> probably not a good idea at work, though
[06:55] <ricky> beer i meant
[06:56] <ricky> ok pal
[06:56] <seishinbyou> It isn't an insult
[06:56] <mando> hey cvirus!
[06:57] <seishinbyou> I honestly don't know much about Mexico
[06:57] <ricky> dont worry
[06:57] <mando> u there dude?
[06:57] <lenore> ricky: is your native language spanish ?
[06:57] <mando> guys how can i register so i can pm?
[06:57] <ricky> enrique
[06:57] <ricky> si hablo espaol
[06:57] <NameNomad> !format
[06:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:58] <ricky> i speack spanish
[06:58] <mando> anyone speaks deutsch?
[06:58] <ricky> not me sorry mando
[06:58] <mando> i'm learning deutsch
[06:59] <lenore> ricky: is that "normal" spanish or some variation of spanish... is exactly the same spanish as spoken in Spain ?
[06:59] <ricky> where you from dude?
[06:59] <mando> who me?
[06:59] <ricky> yes i can speak and understand all kinds of spanish is not hard to (leonore)
[07:00] <seishinbyou> mi to es enfermo pero la carretera es verde
[07:00] <ricky> but....spanish of mexico have influences of native language (nahuatl) and english too
[07:01] <NameNomad> how can I format a slave harddrive?
[07:01] <ricky> is kind of crumbble (if you know watha i mean lol
[07:01] <lenore> ricky: ah, okay, so not exactly the same as spanish Spanish
[07:01] <ricky> no
[07:02] <ricky> for example
[07:02] <ricky> you said: me gusta comer guajolote (lol) that mean i like turkey meat
[07:03] <seishinbyou> But maybe he really does like turkey meat
[07:03] <ricky> lol
[07:04] <lenore> ricky: I can't PM you... if you would like a paid job translating some web pages please send an email to markc@renta.net ... sorry to everyone else for being off-topic
[07:04] <dude> mando: hello
[07:04] <dude> ricky: hello
[07:04] <dude> ricky: philippines
[07:04] <Martijn81> lol@edgy-> $ sudo aptitude update [enter]  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 20 08:55:53 2006
[07:04] <ricky> ok sorry too i didnt meant to disturb sorry
[07:05] <ricky> hi phillippins
[07:05] <seishinbyou> 
[07:05] <NameNomad> how can I format my extra hardrive?
[07:05] <Ashex> bah, i give up
[07:05] <ricky> seishinbyou whats that?
[07:05] <Ashex> I'll just wait for an edgy tut
[07:05] <ricky> hi dude
[07:06] <mando> hey dude
[07:06] <dude> ricly: hello
[07:06] <dude> mando: yo
[07:06] <seishinbyou> ricky: just a crazy moon language
[07:06] <mando> yo
[07:06] <mando> lsn guys i have a question
[07:07] <mando> how come i can find the wireless networks but can communicate with it?
[07:07] <lenore> NameNomad: in a shell... mkfs -j /dev/xxxx ... where xxxx is the other partition on the extra harddrive (presumably it's already partitioned, of course)
[07:07] <mando> the wirless assistant finds the networks, and i'm sure i've entered the encryption key correctly, however it still fails to connect
[07:08] <lenore> mando: they are probably encrypted, so you would need to know the WEP key, and also probably the ESSID for the access point
[07:08] <mando> the LED on the router doesnt flicker so i dont think its communicating with the laptop
[07:08] <T3hWiz0rd> wireless on linux... its one of the things linux is going to have to overcome.
[07:08] <ricky> ok seishinbyou
[07:08] <mando> wizard? is that fred?
[07:09] <lenore> mando: what about the ESSID and the right channel number etc?
[07:09] <seishinbyou> oops
[07:09] <mando> hmm.. havent really done anything with that
[07:10] <mando> let me try it out
[07:10] <ricky> hi dude
[07:10] <rcarr> Hi
[07:10] <mando> whats the ESSID?
[07:10] <mando> the name of the network right?
[07:11] <dude> hello ricky
[07:11] <ricky> leonore check private please
[07:14] <ricky> oh no private room didnt work out leonore any way i already have you on my hotmail
[07:15] <thompa> i could only boot with noapic, whats that mean I got to do anything else?
[07:16] <thompa> !apic
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <dude> is there a startup disk in ubuntu?
[07:16] <thompa> dude: what do you mean?
[07:16] <rcarr> What do you mean "dude" like a disk to boot from
[07:17] <rcarr> if your system is hosed?
[07:17] <thompa> there is a live cd
[07:17] <thompa> the same one
[07:17] <ricky> see you guys  nice to meet all of yuo wiil be on contac leonore
[07:17] <dude> thompa: so i can use the live cd as a startup disk?
[07:17] <rcarr> Why do you need the disk
[07:17] <NameNomad> !mount
[07:17] <rcarr> to startup ubuntu?
[07:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:18] <thompa> are you running windows?
[07:18] <thompa> anybody know what the noapic boot does?
[07:19] <dude> what if my system crashes? do i have to install whole OS again?
[07:19] <rcarr> apic is an interupt controller from intel for use with SMP setups
[07:19] <rcarr> noapic boot disables it
[07:19] <thompa> rcarr: im running duo core
[07:19] <rcarr> if you only have a single core/processor you should be fine without it
[07:19] <rcarr> Ah, then that would be somethingn you want to use both cores
[07:20] <thompa> i could not boot otherwise on 64 bit kubunt rc
[07:20] <rcarr> I would not run 64 bit on a duo core
[07:20] <dude> thompa: what if my system crashes? do i have to install the whole OS again?
[07:20] <thompa> if i just install it what happens
[07:20] <rcarr> Intels EMT64 on most of it's non server processors
[07:20] <rcarr> really sucks
[07:20] <thompa> dude: what OS, windos?
[07:20] <dude> kubuntu
[07:20] <dude> thompa: kubuntu
[07:21] <rcarr> Dude, generally crashes with linux don't involve having to do that
[07:21] <rcarr> the worst case is you can boot from a live cd
[07:21] <rcarr> downloadable from the site
[07:21] <thompa> just bach up /home directory , Email, and docs if you want
[07:21] <rcarr> and mount your install
[07:21] <rcarr> then run the command chroot
[07:22] <thompa> rcarr: is there some way to get duo core going by installing
[07:22] <rcarr> which, as implied by the name, you can set the / path to another folder
[07:22] <rcarr> and it's like interacting with your system
[07:22] <rcarr> no matter how borked it is
 and mount your install <--- ? wwhat do you mean?
[07:22] <rcarr> thompa: Your problem was the livecd would not boot without noapic?
[07:22] <rcarr> Dude: When you install, you install to a physical device, like a hard drive, right?
[07:23] <dude> ok
[07:23] <rcarr> this is represented in the /dev folder by something like
[07:23] <rcarr>  /dev/hda2, or /dev/sda3, etc
[07:23] <rcarr> so you can run the command
[07:23] <rcarr> mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/MyInstall
[07:23] <rcarr> to mount the device represented by hda2 at the folder MyInstall
[07:23] <rcarr> so MyInstall becomes the top level directory of that file system
[07:24] <rcarr> located at /mnt/MyInstall
[07:24] <dude> rcarr: ok, so boot from the live cd, then chroot
[07:24] <rcarr> right
[07:24] <rcarr> in most cases, you probably don't have to chroot
[07:24] <rcarr> just mount it and screw around with files
[07:24] <rcarr> but if you need to interact with programs that are on the broken install, chrooting might be the best idea
[07:24] <dude> rcarr: ok copy
[07:25] <dude> rcarr: ok copy, tnx
[07:25] <rcarr> No problem
[07:26] <dude> rcarr: my system crashes 3X
[07:26] <dude> rcarr: because i installed the worng video card driver
[07:27] <dude> Dr_Willis: hello
[07:27] <rcarr> dude: you shouldn't need to do all the live cd stuff for things like that
[07:27] <Dr_willis> howdy
[07:27] <rcarr> once you boot your system, you get a console login prompt, right?
[07:28] <rcarr> you can login like normal, and run: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <dude> rcarr: ok, i'll try that one
[07:28] <rcarr> and find something that looks like Section "Device"
[07:28] <rcarr> identified "Video card name"
[07:28] <rcarr> etc
[07:28] <rcarr> and change the driver entry to  a safe driver
[07:29] <rcarr> vesa is always safe, but for ati just use "ati" and nvidia "nv"
[07:29] <rcarr> it's pretty much guranteed to work
[07:29] <rcarr> or run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:29] <rcarr> for an interface to guide you through it
[07:29] <dude> rcarr: ok, copy that...tnx again
[07:29] <rcarr> a console based interface that is
[07:29] <rcarr> no problem
[07:30] <rcarr> I should stop breaking up my messages and spamming everyone, sorry about that
[07:30] <Dr_willis> its ok.. :P
[07:31] <Dr_willis> we know dude needs all the help he can get.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:31] <dude> :)
[07:31] <dude> actually, im learnig...
[07:31] <dude> :)
[07:31] <dude> sudo command
[07:31] <Dr_willis> I just sit in these channels some days.. and wonder.. HOW did they break that!
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:31] <dude> hehehe
[07:32] <Dr_willis> at least you dident add a user by the name of 'root' during the install.
[07:32] <dude> :)
[07:32] <dude> chroot
[07:39] <Dr_willis> the chroot of all evil.
[07:40] <rcarr> ...desperately trying to start conversation?
[07:40] <rcarr> We could talk about yakuake
[07:40] <rcarr> and how it is a gift from god
[07:41] <dude> yakuake?
[07:41] <rcarr> It is a program that gives you a tabbed set of shells
[07:41] <rcarr> similar to konsole
[07:41] <rcarr> but when you press f12
[07:42] <rcarr> it slides down from the top of the screen
[07:42] <rcarr> then you press f12 again and it slides back up
[07:42] <rcarr> I think the name comes from "kuake" "quake"
[07:42] <rcarr> and the similar behavior of the console int he game
[07:46] <dude> yakuake is cool
[07:46] <dude> hehehe
[07:47] <dude> rccar: so i have to load yakuake everytime i open my box to be abale to enable F12?
[07:48] <dude> rccar: so i have to load yakuake everytime i open my box to be able to use F12?
[07:50] <dude> hello
[07:50] <Dr_willis> dude,   add it to the kde sessions if its not beign saved.. so it auto-runs
[07:50] <dude> ?
[07:51] <dude> :)
[07:51] <dude> how do i do that? sorry
[07:51] <Dr_willis> look in the menus under session
[07:51] <pacman> Just thought I'd share this....a friend posted this on my website about MSIE 7.0
[07:51] <Dr_willis> kde is supposed to save whats running when you logout and save it to a session.
[07:51] <pacman> What I'm having issues with is IE hijacking the first tab... always sending to a Microsoft URL.
[07:51] <pacman> my response: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[07:51] <Dr_willis> dude,  may want to track down a few kde tutorials/guides.. i aint on kde at the moment.. so cant tell ya where
[07:53] <dude> Dr_Willis: i think it will saved automatically when i open my box
[07:53] <dude> it depends maybe if i teminate yakuake after in shutdown
[07:53] <Solveneq> Hey guys, here's something: If i go to load an application, Ubuntu will seem like its loading something, then nothing happens... anyone have this issue?
[07:53] <dude> it depends maybe if i teminate yakuake after i shutdown
[07:53] <rcarr> Hi dude, sorry about that was working on something
[07:53] <rcarr> but if you log out without killing yakuake
[07:53] <rcarr> it should automatically load up next time you log in
[07:53] <rcarr> if it doesn't you can create a file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:54] <draik> I have an issue that I wonder if anyone else has had. My laptop won't turn off (complete power down) when I tell Kubuntu to shutdown. Any ideas?
[07:54] <rcarr> and name it anything, and just have it contain:
[07:54] <rcarr> #!/bin/sh
[07:54] <rcarr> on the first line
[07:54] <rcarr> and
[07:54] <rcarr> yakuake
[07:54] <rcarr> on the second line
[07:55] <Dr_willis> draik,  ive always found suspend/sleep on laptops to be flakey.. but that sounds like an apci issue if its not pwoering off  when you tell it to shutdown.
[07:56] <rcarr> acpi and apic should have more differentiated names
[07:56] <Dr_willis> rcarr,  yep.. i agree there
[07:56] <Dr_willis> it could be an apic and apci issue
[07:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:57] <Dr_willis> try noapic and noapci options
[07:57] <Solveneq> It only happens every so often
[07:57] <draik> Dr_willis, what would you recommend to do? Or is there even a fix?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> draik,  last time my laptop had that iussue.. a newer kernel eventually fixed it.
[07:58] <draik> I have 3.5.5
[07:58] <Dr_willis> or google for that  laptop.
[07:58] <draik> This has happened since 3.5.2
[07:58] <dude> aside from krdc, terminal server client, any other recomendation?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> 3.5.5 - is the KDE version.. not the  kernel version..  if its a KDE issue.. log out of KDE.. then stop the kdm service.. then try the halt command.
[07:59] <Dr_willis> could be the diffrent kde's are using some other command to halt the system
[07:59] <Dr_willis> dude,  recomdations for what?
[07:59] <dude> remote desktop
[07:59] <Dr_willis> I use vnc mainly
[08:00] <draik> sorry, I'm a bit lost ATM... too many issues with my sis's winxp on my network
[08:00] <Dr_willis> vnc4server for the most part.
[08:00] <draik> Dr_willis ^^
[08:00] <rcarr> An less error prone alternative
[08:00] <rcarr> is x11vnc
[08:00] <rcarr> as it is pretty much zero configuration
[08:01] <Dr_willis> if it does what you want.. :P
[08:01] <Dr_willis> i found x11vnc slower.. and it dident work how i wanted it.
[08:01] <rcarr> another alternative is, ssh, while not providing a remote desktop you can connect with "X11 tunelling" and run graphical programs on the remote computer
[08:01] <rcarr> on the local computers xserver
[08:01] <rcarr> but not an entire desktop enviroment
[08:01] <rcarr> Ah, I have not experimented much with either to be honest
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Yep.. thees 12+ ways to do this stuff..
[08:02] <Dr_willis> and vnc has 12++ ways to do the vncish stuff. :)
[08:02] <Dr_willis> i got a machins set where when i vnc to it. it spawns a gdm login on the vncsession.
[08:03] <Dr_willis> and which port i vnc into. sets the res/depth of the vncserver display
[08:07] <Pazitron_Brain> Hello, where I can download the kubuntu sources? On the www.kubuntu.org I don't find it. I want to build distribution for russian "occidentalism", which based on kubuntu.
[08:10] <Jucato> Pazitron_Brain: in your sources.list, enable the "deb-src" repositories. the update. then you will be able to download the source for a package by doing "sudo apt-get source <package>"
[08:10] <kraut> moin
[08:10] <Pazitron_Brain> Ok, thanks.
[08:12] <draik> I have my 2 Kubuntu systems on my network with assigned IP addresses (no DHCP). Would that cause the 3rd computer to not be able to connect, even if the router is set for DHCP?
[08:15] <rcarr> I don't think so, networking isn't my thing though
[08:15] <draik> hmmm
[08:15] <rcarr> it seems remotely possible that the router could be trying to assign an IP taken by one of the  static systems
[08:16] <rcarr> but, I don't think that would happen
[08:16] <draik> sister is getting on my nerves and can't get her to STFU so that I can fix the issue
[08:16] <draik> back to dynamic I go, I suppose
[08:21] <draik_> Well, by going to DHCP, I don't get an IP assigned.
[08:22] <draik> and even if I     sudo ifconfig eth0 123.456.789.101      I can't go online
[08:25] <rcarr> Mm
[08:26] <rcarr> just to make sure
[08:26] <rcarr> one of the kubuntu boxes
[08:26] <rcarr> isn't running a dhcp server, is it/
[08:26] <draik> no
[08:26] <draik> I have a router
[08:26] <draik> kubuntu laptop... this kubuntu desktop... sister's winxp desktop
[08:27] <rcarr> Ah, because what I was thinking was
[08:27] <rcarr> you might have installed something that had a dhcp server as a dependency
[08:27] <rcarr> like ltsp
[08:28] <rcarr> and your sisters computer was trying to grab an ip from that
[08:28] <rcarr> rather than the router
[08:28] <samuel_> even when im not doing anything my internet is downloading hardout under kubuntu, any ideas why? does kubuntu auto update?
[08:29] <rcarr> samuel, it won't update without you giving your password and confirming it, so no
[08:29] <draik> rcarr, I was able to connect before without any special settings on my behalf. Now, I have to assign IPs to my kubuntu systems
[08:29] <rcarr> Which would seem to be consistent with something hijacking the DHCP
[08:29] <rcarr> but certainlly not the only possibility
[08:30] <rcarr> I would check that you don't have something containing "dhcp" in /etc/init.d on either of the kubuntu boxes
[08:30] <draik> I doubt it. I don't have anything worth anything on my computers and my sis... well, she's just special in her own way
[08:30] <draik> will do
[08:30] <draik> 1 sec
[08:32] <draik> I'm  looking in that directory and find nothing with DHCP
[08:33] <draik> rcarr, anything else that I should look at?
[08:34] <rcarr> mm, nothing is springing to mind
[08:35] <draik> I was on my winxp partition using photoshop and I didn't have an IP in winxp. I just said "F it" and deal with it when the next blue moon comes around
[08:36] <rcarr> Mm
[08:36] <draik> The weird thing is that I won't get an IP address from the router if I set the Network Settings in Kubuntu to DHCP
[08:40] <rcarr> I don't know, it really sounds like a rogue dhcp server, but that doesn't seem to be a possibility
[08:41] <draik> reset the router to default settings?
[08:41] <draik> errr... default to factory, I mean
[08:41] <Zaire> just a quick question...where is the grub bootloader I want to edit it so I can have it boot straight to cli
[08:41] <draik> Zaire, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:42] <Zaire> a router should have a reset button on it
[08:42] <Zaire> very obscure and tiny
[08:42] <Zaire> and thnks lol
[08:42] <rcarr> and you have to hold it down for a long time
[08:42] <draik> It does, but I can also do it from my desktop.
[08:42] <rcarr> to reset to factory settings normally
[08:42] <Zaire> yea
[08:42] <rcarr> zaire: having it boot to a shell
[08:42] <Zaire> yes
[08:42] <draik> I am my own NetAdmin
[08:42] <Zaire> like plain run level 3
[08:43] <rcarr> I guess that works, but make sure you set a root password, as kubuntu doesn't have one by default
[08:43] <draik> ok, on my laptop, I just set it to DHCP and I have no IP address from the router
[08:43] <rcarr> and if you have grub do that, it will just log you in as root
[08:43] <draik> to set a root password, type                 sudo passwd root
[08:43] <Zaire> unless its run level 3 thats a standard
[08:43] <draik> from there just enter the password you want for root and you're all set
[08:44] <Zaire> and yea I know about root its already set
[08:44] <draik> cool
[08:44] <draik> any ideas about obtaining an IP?
[08:44] <Zaire> I run a web server
[08:44] <rcarr> Ah, ok
[08:44] <draik> nice
[08:45] <draik> I'm hoping to run a web server once I get a better understanding of Kubuntu as a web server and such
[08:45] <Zaire> some of its very easy the pain is mysql and php
[08:45] <draik> what is the equivilance to winxp's  "ipconfig /renew" in Kubuntu?
[08:45] <Zaire> sudo ifconfig
[08:46] <Zaire> my website is http://foxfire.hopto.org
[08:48] <draik> sweet mods Zaire
[08:48] <Zaire> thanks lol my custom I plan to do more just need more funds at the moment
[08:51] <draik> You're welcome
[08:51] <draik> This is such a bummer that I can't figure this out
[08:51] <draik> DHCP won't assign me an IP
[08:51] <draik> what gives?
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: kick it in the nuts.
[08:51] <Zaire> hmm
[08:51] <Zaire> lol
[08:51] <draik> I wish T3hWiz0rd
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> excuse me, im on vicodin for injuries right now
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> and that was the most impulsively stupid thing i've done in over two hours
[08:51] <Zaire> ok the boot loader for kubuntu is much more complex then the redhat9 boot loader
[08:51] <Zaire> how do I change this
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: complex = 1337, redhat = sux
[08:51] <Zaire> ....yea to an extent it has a few plus sides
[08:51] <Zaire> not many but a few
[08:51] <rcarr> Well TehWizord
[08:51] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: don't get me wrong though, I was redhat myslef once. Redhat 8 was my first linux distro.
[08:52] <rcarr> Eh, nevermind
[08:52] <Zaire> mandrake 9.2 was my first lol
[08:52] <rcarr> no picking on someone high on vicodin
[08:52] <rcarr> I think redhat 8 was my first as well
[08:52] <rcarr> I was like 8
[08:52] <rcarr> or 7, one of the two
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: was redhat to fedora 1 & 2, stopped my linux usage for a while out of frustration... came back to Fedora core 3, got mad again, went back to windows, came back to Kubuntu 6.0, then suse 10.0, 10.1 back to kubuntu now.
[08:52] <Zaire> yea fedora sux
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> rcarr: im not high by choice i was hit by a semi
[08:53] <Zaire> their enterprise editions aren't much better
[08:53] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: fedora core doens't suck so much as its in a perminent beta stage.
[08:53] <T3hWiz0rd> now suse 10.1... talk about driving your product into a pit of death.
[08:53] <Zaire> lol yea
[08:53] <Zaire> I have that one to
[08:53] <gary_> anyone in the mood to help a noob?
[08:53] <Zaire> depens
[08:53] <T3hWiz0rd> right now i run 10.0 on my server, and will always be a loyal lover to it. I hate 10,1, and replaced my desktop of it with Kubuntu 6.06.1
[08:54] <Jucato> ok guys let's try to stay on topic, specially when someone needs help
[08:54] <rcarr> Ow TehWizord, I wasn't implying you were though
[08:54] <Jucato> gary_: ask away. if someone knows the answer, they'll respond
[08:54] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: we're talking about linux isn't that *on topic*?
[08:54] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: not directly. this is the Kubuntu support channel.
[08:55] <gary_> I got kununtu edgy eft runing every thing was fin, then when i moved my computer, opera and firefox won't connect anymore
[08:55] <Jucato> offtopic chat might be ok from time to time. just make sure that you don't neglect some support questions
[08:55] <Zaire> sounds like a lan issue or cat5 issue
[08:55] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: are you sure that you're dns is set up properly?
[08:55] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: ping your local IP addresses, then ping 4.2.2.1, then ping google.com
[08:55] <T3hWiz0rd> if one of those fails it narrows the problem down
[08:56] <dude> hello guys
[08:56] <gary_> how do i do that?
[08:56] <T3hWiz0rd> son of agun
[08:56] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: open up a terminal window and type ifconfig
[08:56] <T3hWiz0rd> see what your local address is and ping your default gateway
[08:57] <T3hWiz0rd> if that works, next step is to ping an outside IP address... so type ping 4.2.2.1
[08:57] <T3hWiz0rd> if that works, try a DNS address... ping google.com
[08:57] <Zaire> ummm if I do an apt-get remove --purge on kubuntu-desktop should that remove the gui all together cause I most likely won't need it
[08:57] <T3hWiz0rd> if that fails, we know your DNS servers are wrong.
[08:57] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: or it will eat your liver
[08:57] <T3hWiz0rd> either way, fun times.
[08:57] <draik> It's better if you type     ping -c 4 4.2.2.1
[08:57] <draik> it will go on forever without stating -c #
[08:57] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: yeah sorry forgot he may not be able to break it.
[08:58] <Zaire> well cause for me my server only needs to be commandline gui just takes up space and ram
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: used to running pings on sucky wind0wz boxes where its quit ethe opposite lol
[08:58] <draik> oh yea
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: i don't see any problem with it at all... just be careful.
[08:58] <draik> I learned that in a funny way
[08:58] <draik> ..........
[08:58] <draik> ..............
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: lol
[08:58] <draik> .............
[08:58] <gary_> it seems ok, btw, konquerer works fine
[08:58] <draik> Hey! Where's my list of sent/received???
[08:58] <draik> lol
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> haha...
[08:59] <Zaire> well i'll be back gonna swap back over to my main machine
[08:59] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: then perhaps firefox and the operah directories just have invalid configs?
[08:59] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: open a termianl window and type ping -c google.com
[08:59] <draik> ping -c 4 google.com
[09:00] <draik> you need the number of pings
[09:00] <draik> or "count" as they are called
[09:00] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: gerrr vicodin go easy on me lol
[09:00] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: ping -c 4 google.com
[09:00] <gary_> ping: bad number of packets to transmit
[09:00] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: yeah put it as ping -c 4 google.com
[09:00] <draik> lol, will do
[09:01] <draik> gary                ping -c 4 google.com
[09:01] <gary_> worked
[09:01] <T3hWiz0rd> t3hwiz0rd-server: good to see YOU'RE STILL ALIVE! you bucket lol
[09:01] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: okay, so your DNS is set up right then.
[09:01] <gary_> cool
[09:01] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: when this computer moved did you also change the port it was connected in on your router? (if any)
[09:02] <gary_> no, it's directly connected to a dsl modem
[09:02] <draik> in the off chance, check the installs
[09:02] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: if its DSL is ip also changes often
[09:02] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: perhaps have him dump the local user files for fox and opera?
[09:02] <gary_> static ip
[09:02] <draik> I mean the install of the apps he's using
[09:02] <T3hWiz0rd> ah okay...
[09:02] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: lets try a reinstall
[09:02] <gary_> ok
[09:02] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: in terminal sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[09:03] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: let it finish and then sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:03] <T3hWiz0rd> psb154: well hes able to ping DNS
[09:03] <T3hWiz0rd> psb154: so the modems okay.
[09:03] <fdoving> gary_: does konqueror work?
[09:03] <T3hWiz0rd> fdoving: yup he said that does
[09:03] <draik> Hmmm... is it weird that my desktop has a "Hibernate" option when I choose to sign off?
[09:03] <T3hWiz0rd> fdoving: i am thinking it may be the local user files for fox?
[09:03] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: nah normal kubuntu
[09:03] <draik> ok
[09:03] <fdoving> gary_: did you configure firefox to use a proxy server?
[09:03] <draik> just making sure
[09:04] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: just realize if it goes into hibernate it'll empty the fridge first ;-) lol
[09:04] <draik> LOL
[09:04] <draik> Jucato, you're still around?
[09:04] <gary_> konqerer works, no proxy
[09:04] <Jucato> yep
[09:05] <draik> Feeling better?
[09:05] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: you can always try reinstalling maybe...
[09:05] <Jucato> draik: just a bit
[09:05] <draik> good
[09:05] <gary_> reinstalled fox, brb
[09:05] <T3hWiz0rd> gary_: not common on linux but it happens
[09:05] <T3hWiz0rd> my room is moving
[09:05] <Jucato> draik: got your problem solved?
[09:05] <draik> Jucato, wanna fly over and help me?
[09:05] <draik> no, not fixed yet
[09:05] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: yeah right like he could manage that ;-)
[09:05] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: draik is his own problem :-P
[09:05] <Jucato> draik: lol :)
[09:05] <Jucato> @_@
[09:05] <fdoving> gary_: no proxy in firefox?
[09:06] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: <33 much love :-P
[09:06] <Zaire> back
[09:06] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: uninstall go smoothly?
[09:06] <gary_> i mean to say i didn't set any proxy up, it just worked
[09:06] <draik> T3hWiz0rd, You don't even know the half of that.
[09:06] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: hahaha
[09:06] <fdoving> gary_: check proxy settings for firefox please.
[09:06] <draik> I go by 3 names
[09:06] <Zaire> haven't done it yet just switched to my main machine
[09:06] <draik> my gf knows my real name
[09:06] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: ohh believe me i do i am a category five moron. wherever i walk a desaster shortly folloiws.
[09:07] <draik> another girl knows me by a 2nd name and a 3rd girl knows me by a 3rd name
[09:07] <draik> I must be a level 10 moron, I tend to attract Murphy
[09:07] <fdoving> !offtopic
[09:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:07] <Jucato> ooh fdoving... btw, your name always gives a picture of a dove in my head...
[09:07] <Jucato> (told you guys :P)
[09:08] <draik> Jucato, It's good to know it's not only me :-p
[09:08] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: such an overparanoia about that stuff.
[09:08] <fdoving> Jucato :)
[09:08] <gary_> it just says direct connect to internet
[09:08] <draik> Great, now I am not connecting to my eth0 device (USB Ethernet)
[09:08] <fdoving> gary_: ok, that's good.
[09:09] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: not really. there are some cases where valid, ontopic questions get ignored simply because of some offtopic conversation going on. not to mention some people tend to get a bit scared to ask if they see an ongoing conversation
[09:09] <draik> Network Settings doesn't even see eth0
[09:10] <seishinbyou> Question: Is it "legal" to use the MS Fonts (Japanese) in Ubuntu, or should I just keep quite about it?
[09:10] <draik> How do I get Kubuntu to see eth0
[09:10] <draik> ?
[09:10] <Zaire> restarting my server and hoping it doesn't crash
[09:10] <gary_> this happend when i first installed dapper, it seems that i chaneged something in about:config?
[09:10] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: wait i missed what you said t me i was seeing green dots in my head
[09:10] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: did the unijnstall of kubuntu-desktop work all okay?
[09:10] <Zaire> restarting my server and hoping it doesn't crash
[09:10] <Zaire> will find out soon
[09:11] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: alright lemme know.
[09:11] <Jucato> seishinbyou: I think it's legal. but that's just afaik
[09:11] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: i still have a hard time wanting to use kubuntu as my server though, let me know how that all turns out. Till then, i'll stick as suse
[09:11] <fdoving> gary_: you can try to move ~/.mozilla out of the way, and start with default settings. In a konsole (kmenu -> system > konsole) run 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak'
[09:11] <Zaire> works pretty good so far
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> fdoving: that was my original idea.
[09:12] <draik> What's faster? PCMCIA Ethernet card or USB Ethernet adapter?
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: im going to say usb2 would be faster.
[09:12] <seishinbyou> T3hWiz0rd> The company where I work is currently using an Ubuntu box as the web server for the company site.  It works all right, I guess
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> but im probably wrong...
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> seishinbyou: i have a thing about loving YaST for server management... so i have a hard time wanting to give it up.
[09:12] <draik> hmmm
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: i did answer.
[09:13] <draik> Jucato, I got 1 answer
[09:13] <Zaire> well Im logged back in via ssh so I take it Im safe
[09:13] <draik> LOL
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> 00:12 < draik> What's faster? PCMCIA Ethernet card or USB Ethernet adapter?
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> 00:12 < T3hWiz0rd> draik: im going to say usb2 would be faster.
[09:13] <rcarr> I'm not sure draik, try looking up both of the buses on wikipedia
[09:13] <rcarr> and check the speeds
[09:13] <fdoving> draik: usb2. pcmcia got a theoretically maximum of 160Mbps afaik.
[09:13] <Zaire> well my website is still runing
[09:13] <Jucato> heheh
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: link me
[09:14] <Zaire> http://foxfire.hopto.org
[09:14] <seishinbyou> T3hWiz0rd> Yes, I know what you mean.  This Ubuntu server is only for fun I believe until the bofh gets back from holidays and sets it up his own way
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> interesting.
[09:16] <Zaire> all but a few of the images on the main and gallery page I made myself...I painstakingly did the animated one tonight
[09:16] <rcarr> I really like kubuntu for the desktop, but Idon't think I would use it for a server
[09:16] <rcarr> err, *ubuntu
[09:17] <T3hWiz0rd> rcarr: well that has officially helped make my mind up on sticking in the suse realm for servers
[09:18] <rcarr> I wouldn't use suse for a server either!
[09:18] <T3hWiz0rd> what really sucks is that i wish the ubuntu community and the novell community could get along so i didn't have to step on sacred ground when dealing with either.
[09:18] <rcarr> I think I would use FreeBSD for a server
[09:18] <fdoving> I use ubuntu for servers and it rocks:)
[09:18] <draik> I don't get it. Why can't I get an IP from DHCP???
[09:18] <seishinbyou> I might set one up as a Gaiji server for fun
[09:18] <fignew> Gaiji?
[09:19] <seishinbyou> sorry, quick explanation:
[09:19] <fdoving> draik: is the cable connected?
[09:19] <draik> Yes
[09:19] <seishinbyou> In the Japanese language, some people have characters in their name not in the standard educational character set
[09:19] <draik> fdoving, I have "connectivity" but for some reason I have nothing. It won't register my gateway.
[09:20] <seishinbyou> The SJIS code is sent to this server and the server returns a bitmap of the character
[09:20] <fdoving> draik: if you set a static ip, can you ping the dhcp-servers ip?
[09:20] <seishinbyou> It's not *that* exciting
[09:20] <draik> fdoving, If I set it up through "manual" I can go online. But if I go through "automatic" I'm screwed for gateway and IP
[09:21] <Jucato> for me it is :P
[09:21] <seishinbyou> We have one guy in our office right now with a non-standard character in his name.   Really messed up the payroll system first month.
[09:21] <fdoving> draik: i'm thinking maybe a dhcp-server problem? is it a router? did you try to restart it?
[09:21] <draik> Yes, it's a router
[09:21] <draik> I will restart in just a sec
[09:24] <draik> Ok, well here goes
[09:25] <draik> I'm going to go restart my router
[09:25] <draik> fdoving, would you think a simple router restart would work or should I do a complete power cycle of my router and modem?
[09:25] <rcarr> still the same problem?
[09:26] <Jucato> problem never went away I guess :P
[09:26] <fdoving> draik: simple restart should work if it has dhcp-server problems.
[09:26] <draik> 10-4
[09:27] <draik> ok
[09:27] <draik> ok
[09:27] <fdoving> ok?
[09:27] <draik> I'm bacik
[09:27] <draik> *back
[09:28] <fdoving> i'll have to do a reboot to do some partition magic. brb.
[09:28] <draik> time to see if my laptop can go DHCP
[09:28] <rcarr> I'm on the edge of my seat
[09:28] <gary_> hey guys, I've been trying to get my browsers working, and just realized synapic won't connect either
[09:28] <draik> LOL @ Jucato
[09:29] <rcarr> *is crushed against the edge of his desk*
[09:29] <Jucato> heh :)
[09:29] <rcarr> Man, this is an Edgy conversation
[09:29] <rcarr> like an Eft
[09:29] <rcarr> haha
[09:29] <rcarr> hahahaha
[09:29] <rcarr> harhar...yeah no
[09:29] <draik> lol
[09:29] <draik> I think it's the lack of sleep
[09:29] <rcarr> It's 3:33 here...
[09:29] <rcarr> AM
[09:30] <draik> 12:30am here
[09:30] <Jucato> lol.. rcarr  is on EST
[09:30] <draik> You're in the EST
[09:30] <draik> yup, LOL
[09:30] <rcarr> Yay east coast!
[09:30] <draik> I'm Pacific
[09:31] <rcarr> I thought you were somewhere ELSE with a four hour time difference from EST
[09:31] <rcarr> like the moon
[09:31] <esas> I have made a php code and i want to set in that code a table, and in that table i want to set a php code again , but i don't now how i must do that???
[09:32] <rcarr> India jucato?
[09:32] <draik> nope
[09:32] <rcarr> Kazakhstan, Pakistan, that area?
[09:32] <draik> try again rcarr
[09:32] <rcarr> too lazy to check your IP
[09:32] <Jucato> lol
[09:32] <Jucato> .ph
[09:32] <Jucato> Philippines
[09:32] <rcarr> Ah
[09:33] <esas> i've altready made the table and everything but there's an error that say's there un unexpected "<" it's the < from the table so i cant delete this<
[09:33] <rcarr> I thought that was Est + 14
[09:33] <Jucato> nah. 12 hours exactly
[09:33] <draik> I wish my phone could support more javascripting that it does now. I want to use the online version of IRC while I'm away Halloween and Thxgiving
[09:34] <Jucato> jmirc?
[09:35] <draik> cross your fingers/toes/etc... I'm setting up the laptop for DHCP again
[09:35] <rcarr> !!
[09:35] <rcarr> Quick, sacrifice 12 goats and 3 virgin pigs!
[09:35] <draik> I just hope I get an IP address and that it recognizes the darn gateway
[09:36] <rcarr> *stains chalk in blood*
[09:36] <draik> LOL
[09:36] <rcarr> *of Gentoo users*
[09:36] <Jucato> O_o
[09:36] <draik> WOO-freaking-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:36] <rcarr> It worked?
[09:36] <rcarr> It must have been the gentoo ricers
[09:36] <rcarr> err, users
[09:36] <rcarr> blood
[09:36] <draik> Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:36] <Jucato> ooh hi jende
[09:37] <jende> Jucato: good Morning, my friend! How are ya?
[09:37] <Jucato> jende: feeling a bit better. still not fully well though
[09:37] <jende> Jucato: at least you recover
[09:38] <Ademan> how can i find out the currently running wm?
[09:38] <jende> Ademan: wm?
[09:38] <Ademan> window manager
[09:38] <Jucato> Ademan: if you're using default KDE, then it's KWin
[09:38] <rcarr> err, I suppose you could run
[09:38] <jende> Ademan: Help-> About
[09:38] <rcarr> ps -A
[09:38] <Ademan> i'm not on KDE, just people in #ubuntu are useless :-p
[09:38] <Jucato> jende: that would show the running DE, not the running WM
[09:39] <sredna> I have a bug related to fonts: The font installer can't show the oblique fonts, neither can kfontinstaller, nor are they selected for printing :(
[09:39] <rcarr> Ademan, on gnome?
[09:39] <draik> Jucato, time for the desktop
[09:39] <Jucato> Ademan: like what rcarr said. ps -A. check for names like kwin, metacity, etc
[09:39] <Ademan> rcarr: yes, i'm trying to get beryl up, but i'm pretty sure its not running
[09:39] <Jucato> good luck draik
[09:39] <sredna> I don't know if this is specific to kubuntu, or if anyone else have the problem
[09:39] <draik> Thanks
[09:39] <sredna> Can anyone confirm?
[09:39] <rcarr> Ah,
[09:39] <rcarr> How did you try and start it?
[09:40] <rcarr> for beryl you should have "emerald" and "beryl" showing up in ps -A
[09:40] <rcarr> emerald is the window decorator, and beryl the manager
[09:40] <Ademan> i didnt really, i just started up x (startx) from a tty because for God knows what reason, x doesnt start, and i don't get the login screen by default anymore
[09:40] <jende> Jucato: I had just one coffee so far, so I'm not really awake yet...*g*
[09:40] <rcarr> Ok Ademan, rather than
[09:40] <rcarr> "startx"
[09:41] <rcarr> You are using ubuntu vanilla right? with gnome?
[09:41] <Ademan> and of course, from the login screen i'd just choose a beryl session, but i dont even get that...
[09:41] <rcarr> start "gdm" with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:41] <Ademan> heh
[09:41] <rcarr> and you gete a login screen
[09:41] <Ademan> doesnt do ANYTHING
[09:41] <rcarr> ah
[09:41] <Ademan> tried start stop restart
[09:41] <Ademan> none of them even have any output
[09:41] <rcarr> ps -A | grep gdm
[09:41] <rcarr> ?
[09:41] <draik_> Hello?
[09:41] <Ademan> i opened up the file, and it looked alright
[09:41] <draik_> Hello?
[09:41] <rcarr> ?olleH
[09:42] <draik_> Ugh
[09:42] <Ademan> rcarr: no nothing about gdm
[09:42] <Ademan> wonder if its gdm thats not starting?
[09:42] <Jucato> draik: what?
[09:42] <draik_> draik is a ghost
[09:42] <rcarr> Try just running it
[09:42] <rcarr> i.e. sudo gdm
[09:42] <draik_> Jucato, how do I get rid of my ghost?
[09:42] <Ademan> command not found
[09:42] <Ademan> i think you gotta start it the way you said
[09:42] <Jucato> draik: /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>
[09:42] <rcarr> well, not if it works anythinglg ike kdm
[09:42] <rcarr> type gdm, then hit tab twice for tab completion
[09:42] <rcarr> what options does it give you?
[09:43] <draik> PERFECT
[09:43] <rcarr> I guess the executable just isn't named gdm
[09:43] <draik> all is good
[09:43] <fignew> /msg NickServ identify crazynas
[09:43] <Jucato> ooh
[09:43] <draik> fdoving, thatnk you
[09:43] <fignew> ;)
[09:43] <Jucato> someone needs to change his password :P
[09:43] <draik> errr, fdoving, thank you
[09:43] <draik> LOL
[09:43] <Ademan> rcarr: gave me gdm-signal
[09:43] <rcarr> Mm, I don't think that's it
[09:43] <rcarr> because I have that
[09:43] <rcarr> and I don't have gdm installed
[09:43] <draik> kinda like that one post on bash.org... "your password comes up as ******* to me!"
[09:44] <rcarr> I love that post draik
[09:44] <Jucato> heh
[09:44] <rcarr> also, bash keeps on rejecting my quotes
[09:44] <draik> That's an oldie but a goodie
[09:44] <rcarr> I just submitted: "robbjedi: Reiser is going to jail! robbjedi: Good thing ReiserFS supports tail packing"
[09:44] <rcarr> I really expected that to get in, but alas
[09:44] <rcarr> Ademan: Did you recently dist-upgrade or something?
[09:45] <rcarr> i.e. are you sure you have GDM installed
[09:45] <draik> I submitted, "winxp reminds me of my gf. They have an issue and they speak a COMPLETELY different language when I try to find out what the issue is."
[09:45] <Ademan> rcarr: yeah, i did hehe
[09:45] <rcarr> Err, Jucato, had you sent a PM to me? I just accidently closed an open window with you and I am not sure if I accidently opened it, or I recieved it
[09:45] <rcarr> and I am not keeping logs
[09:45] <Jucato> rcarr: why would I? :P
[09:45] <rcarr> No clue?
[09:45] <Ademan> wow
[09:45] <Ademan> rcarr
[09:46] <rcarr> Yeah?
[09:46] <Ademan> you rule
[09:46] <Jucato> rcarr: no I didn't
[09:46] <rcarr> GDM wasn't installed? hehe
[09:46] <Ademan> haha yeah...
[09:46] <rcarr> I had that problem when I dist-upgraded to edgy a while ago
[09:46] <Ademan> which begs the question why does /etc/init.d/gdm EXIST ?!
[09:46] <rcarr> it got rid of KDM and xserver-xorg
[09:46] <rcarr> it's probably listed as a configuration file
[09:46] <rcarr> it's just a shell script
[09:46] <Ademan> yeah
[09:46] <Ademan> well either way
[09:46] <rcarr> so it wont be removed unless you apt-get remove --purge
[09:46] <Ademan> i'm gonna install
[09:46] <rcarr> Glad it works for you
[09:46] <Ademan> and restart
[09:47] <Ademan> and see you all on the other side :-)
[09:47] <Ademan> thanks a lot rcarr
[09:47] <draik> See You On The Other Side is a great album
[09:47] <rcarr> Bye
[09:47] <draik> bye rcarr
[09:47] <rcarr> Err, I am not leaving
[09:47] <rcarr> I was saying bye to Ademan
[09:47] <draik> whoops
[09:48] <draik> LOL
[09:48] <draik> sorry rcarr
[09:48] <draik> ummm... welcome back?
[09:48] <draik> LOL
[09:48] <rcarr> I think Jucato is out to get me
[09:48] <Jucato> :)
[09:48] <draik> I know a guy that knows a guy that pushes guys
[09:48] <Jucato> just waiting for jende to be fully awake
[09:48] <draik> The final score ~~~~~~~~~
[09:49] <draik> Jucato 2   rcarr 0
[09:49] <rcarr> ?
[09:49] <rcarr> err
[09:49] <Ademan> alright, reinstalled, lets see how it goes, later all
[09:49] <rcarr>  /home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER/home/$USER?
[09:49] <draik> Bye Ademan
[09:49] <gary_> i have a somewhat dumb ???, if i install edgy eft beta will it automaticlly update to rc1
[09:49] <rcarr> (poor joke in regards to ~~~~~~~~~~)
[09:49] <rcarr> I think I just made a shell alias pun
[09:49] <draik> so I see
[09:50] <Jucato> gary_: yes
[09:50] <Jucato> and to final release too
[09:50] <Jucato> you just have to perform the updates
[09:50] <gary_> thanks
[09:50] <draik> anyone here having issues with the newest release of amaroK?
[09:50] <rcarr> No
[09:50] <Jucato> I really really really really really wish I was on Linux now... I miss using Alt+LMB to move windows...
[09:50] <rcarr> I was having issues with a previous ititeration of amarok in edgy
[09:51] <draik> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:51] <draik>   amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine
[09:51] <rcarr> in that the browser lagged like heck
[09:51] <rcarr> If you want them to update, just install the packages manually
[09:51] <draik> manually?
[09:51] <rcarr> i.e. run sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine
[09:51] <draik> you mean    apt-get install [package] 
[09:51] <rcarr> Yeah
[09:51] <draik> yeah, that fails
[09:52] <rcarr> with what?
[09:52] <Jucato> draik: KDE 3.5.5?
[09:53] <jende> Jucato: whooooaaaa...that coffee is a beauty...3spoons of black gold for one cup, that really wakes me up
[09:53] <rcarr> err, as in error
[09:53] <draik> Jucato, yes. KDE 3.5.5
[09:53] <Jucato> lol
[09:53] <draik> E: Broken packages
[09:53] <Jucato> draik: hm... did you check that you still have the appropriate Amarok repos enabled? (not to mention dapper-backports probably)
[09:53] <Ademan> it worked!
[09:53] <seishinbyou> Coffee is just too weak, unless you much on chocolate covered coffee beans and wash it down with Jolt or something
[09:53] <draik> I don't have the backports enabled
[09:53] <Ademan> now the question is how can i select a beryl session from that? lol
[09:53] <Jucato> draik: but you have the amarok 1.4.3 repos?
[09:53] <draik> I'm on amaroK 1.3.9
[09:53] <draik> the amaroK repo?
[09:53] <draik> yes I do
[09:54] <Jucato> er..
[09:54] <Jucato> draik: what are you trying to do again?
[09:54] <draik> update amaroK
[09:54] <Jucato> to which version?
[09:54] <draik> what ever the new version is.
[09:54] <draik> it's in my upgradable section, just not doable
[09:54] <draik> held back
[09:54] <Jucato> "Important:  you need to enable dapper-backports to be able to install Amarok 1.4.3. This includes unsupported updates for other popular packages including KTorrent and K3b."
[09:55] <draik> ok
[09:55] <draik> one sec
[09:56] <draik> still held back
[09:57] <Jucato> of course I presume you "sudo apt-get update" first right?
[09:57] <draik> yup
[09:57] <draik> always
[09:57] <Jucato> hm...
[09:57] <Jucato> pastebin your sources.list?
[09:57] <draik> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:57] <draik> ok, one sec
[09:57] <draik> !paste
[09:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:57] <Jucato> and probably the error message?
[09:59] <draik> Jucato, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27446/
[10:00] <draik> ok, so now it will install amaroK, but it will remove amarok-arts
[10:00] <Jucato> draik the error message that you get when you upgrade?
[10:01] <Jucato> er..
[10:01] <Jucato> now it's trying to install?
[10:01] <zorglu_> !fash
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <zorglu_> !flash
[10:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:01] <draik> Jucato, it installed it
[10:01] <Jucato> ok
[10:01] <draik> Time to restart amaroK
[10:02] <Jucato> :)
[10:02] <draik> updating right now
[10:04] <draik> sweet, I now have 1.4.3
[10:04] <draik> Ok, well that was enough troubleshooting
[10:05] <draik> time for sleep
[10:09] <zorglu_> $ sudo apt-get install realplayer -> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable. <- on a dapper. any suggestion ?
[10:12] <jende> !realplayer
[10:12] <visik7> I've a problem with kdm on edgy
[10:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:12] <visik7> anyone ?
[10:12] <visik7> when kdm start at boot I can't write the password
[10:12] <jende> visik7: like what?
[10:12] <zorglu_> jende: good :) but this wont repear the broken pacakge :)
[10:13] <visik7> but if I do a alt+ctrl+F1 and than back to F7
[10:13] <visik7> keyboard start to work
[10:14] <jende> zorglu_: you have multiverse universe and backports enables?
[10:14] <jende> zorglu_: you have multiverse universe and backports enabled?
[10:14] <zorglu_> yeah i have :)
[10:14] <jende> visik7: it works just fine here
[10:14] <visik7> I know that it works on most platform
[10:15] <visik7> I need a way to debug it
[10:15] <zorglu_> jende: what i do is "sudo apt-get install realplayer", the package IS found from multiverse. but the package requires another package called 'xlibs' and this one is not found
[10:15] <jende> zorglu_: I read that; I'm just trying to figure out why
[10:15] <jende> visik7: on which platform are you
[10:15] <visik7> x86
[10:16] <visik7> I mean
[10:17] <visik7> I know that it works on most machine
[10:17] <visik7> s
[10:17] <jende> visik7: okay, so you're not a 64 box, hmmm...I'm on a x86 to and hadn't had any dramas like you have...weird
[10:18] <visik7> maybe is a problem due to nvidia drivers/framebuffer/usplash
[10:19] <marian> hello, i need help with my dpkg, it cannot find dpkg-architecture command ..
[10:19] <marian> what can i do?
[10:20] <zorglu_> jende: discussed a bit with packagers and this is likely a broken package
[10:22] <marian> i've read its a part of the ccp .. but i've installed the full package but nothing happens
[10:22] <zorglu_> jende: for future reference, the one from dapper-commercial, called realplay, is installable
[10:24] <Jucato> marian: I think it's in the dpkg-dev package
[10:24] <marian> ok I try .. ;)
[10:25] <sacha_> Hello :). When I enable DRI in xorg.conf, the desktop wallpaper, icons and menu stop functioning. No icons present on desktop, default wallpaper. Everything else including taskbar and KDE menu still work. Video card: Radeon 9600. KDE Version: 3.5.3. Xorg Version:7.1.1 Any ideas?
[10:25] <jende> zorglu_: thanks mate
[10:25] <jende> zorglu_: had to feed quickly the cats...as they were starving
[10:26] <marian> it works, thank ya
[10:27] <Jucato> marian: no problem. (actually just searched for that in Google using "dpkg-architecture package")
[10:28] <timothy_> anyone get steam to run with the latest version of wine?
[10:28] <T3hWiz0rd> timothy_: ask about htat in #cedega.
[10:28] <T3hWiz0rd> timothy_: best place for it.
[10:28] <visik7> sacha_: how can you have xorg 7.1.1 and kde 3.5.3 there isn't any single kubuntu distro synced to this config
[10:28] <T3hWiz0rd> timothy_: they can answer all your wine/winex/cedega questions.
[10:28] <sacha_> i upgraded
[10:29] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: me too, but all i got was this stupid T-shirt.
[10:29] <Jucato> !xserver-xorg edgy
[10:30] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB
[10:30] <Jucato> visik7: edgy will ^^^
[10:30] <timothy_> no answer in #cedega
[10:31] <Jucato> visik7: Edgy will have X.org 7.1 and KDE 3.5.5
[10:31] <visik7> infact
[10:31] <sacha_> so no one knows my problem? :(
[10:31] <jende> Jucato: wondering what kind of mix that is Xorg7.1.1 and KDE 3.5.3...
[10:32] <Jucato> :)
[10:32] <jende> sacha_: not really
[10:32] <T3hWiz0rd> jende: its like replacing the back tires on a ghetto car lol
[10:32] <jende> T3hWiz0rd: lol
[10:32] <chx> so no KDE4 yet?
[10:32] <sacha_> no :(
[10:32] <Jucato> chx: no
[10:32] <chx> well, the name Krash suggests some instability :)
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> perhaps.
[10:33] <sacha_> i was going to get 3.5.5 but by the time i realised i was compiling 3.5.3, it was a bit late
[10:33] <Jucato> chx: it is. it's very alpha, and meant for developers only
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> is kde4 supposed to be plasma?
[10:34] <sacha_> plasma?
[10:34] <T3hWiz0rd> !plasma
[10:34] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: Plasma is a KDE 4 project
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Jucato> it's not a code name
[10:34] <zorglu_> those cute name are cute but very unexplicit :)
[10:34] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: so they are sitll just gonna do a minor overhaul i guess?
[10:34] <Jucato> http://plasma.kde.org/
[10:34] <sacha_> any screenshots of KDE4 around? i couldn't find any but i really do hope that those KDE4 mockups in kde-look.org end up in there
[10:34] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: no. a very major overhaul
[10:34] <T3hWiz0rd> or is kde being redone from the ground up?
[10:35] <sacha_> hah, doubt it
[10:35] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: well not exactly from the ground up. but very major changes
[10:35] <Jucato> for one, it uses the new Qt4
[10:35] <sacha_> KDE always has major changes through versions
[10:35] <Jucato> sacha_: but not like this
[10:35] <T3hWiz0rd> i just want it to have a more simplified configuration with maybe minus soo so many options
[10:36] <T3hWiz0rd> it also needs to take on the vista look lol
[10:36] <Jucato> er...
[10:36] <sacha_> :S
[10:36] <MistaED> their toolkit is now based on Qt4 though, which packs 'arthur' for vector graphics, much like cairo for gtk
[10:36] <Jucato> I won't comment on that
[10:36] <T3hWiz0rd> i don't mean look like it
[10:36] <T3hWiz0rd> but become something better
[10:36] <T3hWiz0rd> compete with it
[10:36] <sacha_> there is already glass out that looks just like vista, complete with the vista wallpaper
[10:36] <MistaED> and afaik, they want to incorporate glucose for arthur to perform opengl rendering
[10:36] <micra> Hi, Does anyone knows how to choose between 2 soundcards? It seems like it is randomly choosen on startup.
[10:36] <sacha_> i think what you want is beryl/emerald?
[10:36] <Jucato> well, there's absolutely no reason for KDE to "compete" with Vista. it's a by product, not a goal
[10:37] <sacha_> checkout this: http://web.archive.org/web/19981205010558/http://www.kde.org/kscreenshots.html
[10:37] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: okay...
[10:37] <T3hWiz0rd> just some old kde snaps
[10:38] <chx> sacha_: well, that looks 'unixy' now KDE looks more 'human'
[10:38] <Jucato> hehe
[10:38] <sacha_> yeah KDE changes a lot version to version
[10:38] <chx> sacha_: but even more is always appreciated :)
[10:38] <T3hWiz0rd> it used to look very windows 9x
[10:38] <Jucato> There are basicallly no circulated shots of KDE4 yet simply because all the work so far has been about the underlying code
[10:38] <chx> that's a wise course to take
[10:38] <draik> I just had some fun telling my dad why Kubuntu is better than winxp
[10:38] <draik> That was fun!
[10:38] <Jucato> there have been some interface changes, but they still look a bit like KDE 3
[10:39] <Jucato> lol
[10:39] <T3hWiz0rd> i know kde has grown a lot. it used to look very windows 9x ish and became its own life
[10:39] <chx> 'dad, have you heard of viruses? malware? ok, pop this cd in and forget them.'
[10:39] <chx> how come MS has not yet been class action lawsuited for that insecure piece of shit?
[10:40] <sacha_> VirusesIntrudersSpywareTrojansAdware
[10:40] <draik> chx, I told my dad about my sister's winxp computer... "See, she has it password protected. Now, once I put in this CD, I can see and change those files as I see fit"
[10:40] <Jucato> lol
[10:40] <draik> After I showed him, "If you know so much about computers, then why don't you get a job with using this CD thingy?"
[10:40] <Jucato> not a very good way to convince him, but convincing nonetheless
[10:41] <chx> *sigh*
[10:41] <draik> I wish my sis was awake to see this
[10:41] <chx> I hate when people think that just because I make a good living out of writing web applications
[10:41] <draik> So dear sis, you think it's safe when you're gone?
[10:41] <chx> I can support their broken Windows installs :(
[10:41] <sacha_> well draik, you could stick any OS in and change her files :P
[10:42] <sacha_> she could enable that disk encryption thing in windows though
[10:42] <spocky> hello
[10:42] <T3hWiz0rd> you can see everything on a linux box too
[10:42] <visik7> anyone with an nvidia with 1400x1050 monitor and edgy ?
[10:42] <T3hWiz0rd> with just a floppy disk and chown access
[10:42] <T3hWiz0rd> its not that much better really.
[10:42] <draik> Knoppix 5.x allows me to write to NTFS and change it accordingly
[10:42] <sacha_> the kernel lets you
[10:42] <zorglu_> !ntfs
[10:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:42] <zorglu_> !ntfs-3g
[10:42] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[10:42] <Jucato> only one way your sister can block you out. password protect the BIOS and set it not to boot from a CD drive
[10:43] <sacha_> write to ntfs is sort of borked.. atleast in 2.6.18 kernel.. you cant make file larger
[10:43] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: same goes for linux thoguh eh?
[10:43] <fdoving> or install encfs.:)
[10:43] <zorglu_> draik: seen the ntfs-3g link ? it is for you :)
[10:43] <T3hWiz0rd> it also can be accessed... very easily, the same as windows.
[10:43] <Jucato> yeah
[10:43] <draik> my sis is as good as a door knob when it comes to computers
[10:43] <Jucato> that's what the cyber cafe near here did. so I couldn't use my Live CD's and had to use their fscking Windows :P
[10:43] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: so that little factiod really doesn't prove linux security over windows.
[10:44] <spocky> I have Ubuntu edgy eft beta on my computer installed. Now, I'm thinking about apting the kubuntu-desktop package on my machine. But my thing is, I want to keep GDM as my desktop manager. So if I install kubuntu-desktop, will GDM stay my login manager, or will it be switched to KDM automaticly?
[10:44] <draik> she works at a law office and her boss tells her to call me for every little stupid issue. I told him, $100 for the first hour, $60 for the remaining
[10:44] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: if iwant to i can pop my USB thumb drive containing Damn Small Linux onto your computer, chown your / directory, and see your content to my pleasing as well.
[10:45] <draik> T3hWiz0rd, point being that I can manipulate whatever she is holding sacred in that ugly comcrap box of hers
[10:45] <fdoving> T3hWiz0rd: you don't even have to chown, as you boot with the auth info on DSL, and you're root. :)
[10:45] <zorglu_> nothing can counter 'physical access' to the box
[10:45] <T3hWiz0rd> fdoving: yeah, true.. i was thinknig about recovery console too lol
[10:45] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: the same is on linux too though
[10:45] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: you're no safer than she is unless you encrypted your files.
[10:45] <sacha_> yep
[10:46] <draik> T3hWiz0rd, Linux owns all. PERIOD
[10:46] <T3hWiz0rd> draik: not in the way you're saying it.
[10:46] <sacha_> and windows has encrypt disk option too (atleast in vista)
[10:46] <T3hWiz0rd> your little security boist is highly innacruate...
[10:46] <draik> I always liked Spector Pro 5.x
[10:46] <sacha_> it's not really a positive point for linux
[10:46] <draik> Nice little untracable app in win
[10:46] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: you can also encrypt content on current-day NTFS, and it works alright.
[10:46] <sacha_> yeah, wasnt sure if it was in XP or not
[10:47] <T3hWiz0rd> its there, just not very descriptively lol
[10:47] <zorglu_> of course you have to trust a company which is known to produce vulnerable system :)
[10:47] <T3hWiz0rd> zorglu_: even microsoft can't screw up encrpytion.
[10:47] <seishinbyou> All right, the MS fonts make the whole environment much more readable now
[10:47] <zorglu_> T3hWiz0rd: dont know where you got that. but every can screw up encryption and ms has done it in the past
[10:48] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know what the default apple fonts are called?
[10:48] <zorglu_> in fact i would say that most screw up encryption :)
[10:48] <zorglu_> i broked like 3 vpn on linux, aesloop fs and other internet routing protocol
[10:49] <zorglu_> and believe their security was not high :)
[10:49] <seishinbyou> 
[10:49] <seishinbyou> That looks better
[10:49] <zorglu_> !ch
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <zorglu_> ah ok :)
[10:50] <zorglu_> seishinbyou: btw what is the language codename for chinese ?
[10:50] <draik> !jp
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Jucato> lol
[10:50] <T3hWiz0rd> no one knows the os x fonts?
[10:50] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: lucida grande
[10:50] <draik> Jucato, what's so lol?
[10:50] <draik> trying to find out the language codename?
[10:50] <Jucato> your attempts at !ch and !jp
[10:51] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: thats their default?
[10:51] <draik> !japanese
[10:51] <Jucato> there are no registered channels for .ch and .jp
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japanese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: under linux, luxi and regular lucida is very similar
[10:51] <draik> I don't think I spelled it correctly
[10:51] <MistaED> *are
[10:52] <draik> !japan
[10:52] <seishinbyou> !zh
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:52] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: is tghere a way to use the font on my mac on the linux box? cos i have a mac
[10:52] <seishinbyou> ha!
[10:52] <Jucato> lol
[10:52] <draik> cheater
[10:52] <zorglu_> thanks :)
[10:52] <dad> Anybody fancy helping old dog with new tricks?....i.e....Not sure how my username is ok on here but not on ubunto channel??
[10:52] <Jucato> !botabuse
[10:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:52] <sacha_> dad? lol draik's dad?
[10:52] <seishinbyou> Oh, but sometimes it is fun to pretend you are a bot
[10:52] <draik> well dad, use            /nick <new nick name>
[10:52] <draik> sacha_ I knew that was coming... although I thought from Jucato
[10:52] <zorglu_> this message should be changed. the 'angry ops' sounds like a threat
[10:52] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: afaik what i did when i had OSX installed on this pc, i just used the linux HFS driver and searched for where it stores fonts, and just simply copy-pasted it into a linux font directory
[10:52] <Jucato> draik:  my mind is not at its best
[10:53] <draik> Jucato, but you still wouldn't miss it if you could :-p
[10:53] <dad> Sorry for being a "plank"...The kubunto channel just takes my username from the system and uses that but ubunto aint having it
[10:53] <Jucato> draik: if I could, I would have
[10:53] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: it might need a system restart though, also make sure fonts render at sub-pixel with minor/no hinting to mimmick OSX
[10:53] <Jucato> dad: no problem with your nick
[10:53] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: *system restart i mean xorg restart
[10:54] <draik> Jucato, I know you would. That's why I laughed when I saw the comment that sacha_ left and thought it was you (until I read the nick)
[10:54] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: well i found a directory to them and used the kde font installer
[10:54] <T3hWiz0rd> but it doesn't seem to be workin lol
[10:55] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: try as admin so it's system-wide in kcontrol
[10:55] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: i don't see lucidus in the menu though
[10:55] <timothy_> hey
[10:55] <MistaED> it's lucida
[10:55] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: yeah, don't see it there
[10:55] <timothy_> anyone know why steam wont work with wine?
[10:56] <draik> probably not a good mix anyway
[10:56] <sacha_> havent tried steam in there yet, but most things need reconfiguring of wine config
[10:56] <sacha_> and inserting some native DLLs in there
[10:56] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: odd
[10:56] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: i don'[t see it anywhere lol
[10:57] <draik> Well, it's time for me to crash like winME. Talk to you all later, if you're all still around.
[10:57] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: if you want something easier, i'm pretty sure lucida or luxi could be installed from a deb
[10:57] <timothy_> sacha_: how can i fix this?
[10:57] <dad> Jucato...sorry.Are you telling me the username is not a prob.Never used irc before other than quick shot in my dappers kubunto.Thought i`d have another go here on edgy
[10:57] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: i found the fonts online
[10:57] <seishinbyou> Windows CE+ME+NT, a portable, reliably crashing OS
[10:57] <T3hWiz0rd> they showq up in the list for kde font installer.
[10:57] <sacha_> i'd suggest checking out google for other people who try wine+steam
[10:57] <seishinbyou> Cement for short
[10:57] <MistaED> lucida seems to be identical to lucida grande for me
[10:58] <seishinbyou> Anyways, work is finished for me.  Time for dinner
[10:58] <Jucato> dad: yeah no problem with it
[10:58] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: check the repositories, it could be in there already
[10:58] <seishinbyou> 
[11:00] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: what should i search for?
[11:00] <MistaED> sun-java5-fonts contains lucida, just checked
[11:00] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: once it installs should I restart X?
[11:00] <MistaED> and xfonts-scalable has luxi
[11:00] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: if it doesn't work, yes you should
[11:00] <T3hWiz0rd> Use of uninitialized value in print at /var/lib/defoma/scripts/gs.defoma line 108.
[11:00] <MistaED> ttf-xfree86-nonfree * contains luxi, sorry
[11:00] <dad> This is mad then cause if i switch from Kubunto channel to ubunto channel it dont work the same.I`ll go do some reading and try see what im doing wrong.Actually using "edgy gnome" and no acceess to "KDE" help....DUH!!Tried that "bitchx" but that was even harder
[11:00] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: i installed the java one and still don't see it in the list
[11:01] <T3hWiz0rd> i see a bunch called like "ae_alarabiya"
[11:02] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: restart xorg
[11:02] <T3hWiz0rd> alright
[11:02] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: restarted
[11:03] <T3hWiz0rd> okay
[11:03] <T3hWiz0rd> i see them lol
[11:03] <T3hWiz0rd> for general font does os x use Lucida Bright at regular?
[11:04] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: nice, if you want mac-like font rendering do a: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and then make sure to pick sub-pixel font rendering when it comes to that part
[11:04] <T3hWiz0rd> well first i want to choose all the fonts to look like it lol
[11:04] <T3hWiz0rd> lucida bright for regular right?
[11:05] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: no idea, if it looks good then choose it ;) just make sure you have sub-pixel font rendering with no hinting
[11:06] <T3hWiz0rd> lucida grande for okay
[11:07] <T3hWiz0rd> MistaED: running it now
[11:07] <T3hWiz0rd> how should fonts be tuned to screen?
[11:07] <T3hWiz0rd> native? autohinder?
[11:07] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: not sure what that does, pick whatever is selected by default
[11:07] <T3hWiz0rd> subpixel rendering?
[11:08] <Sandman_> bonjour
[11:08] <T3hWiz0rd> automatic, always, never?
[11:08] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: yes turn that on, always/automatic whatever
[11:08] <T3hWiz0rd> enable bitmap fonts be default?
[11:08] <MistaED> in kcontrol you can tweak it
[11:08] <MistaED> i don't think you do, no
[11:09] <T3hWiz0rd> okay, it says done
[11:09] <T3hWiz0rd> restart X
[11:09] <MistaED> i like greyscale subpixel with no hinting to get the mac font look
[11:09] <MistaED> when you edit it in kcontrol
[11:10] <T3hWiz0rd> where in kcontro? the fonts section?
[11:10] <MistaED> T3hWiz0rd: yeah, think so
[11:10] <MistaED> bbl
[11:10] <T3hWiz0rd> im in the anti-aliasing part of it and i don't see grayscale?
[11:17] <jende> dude_: howdy
[11:17] <dude_> jende: hello
[11:19] <Jucato> heh... old friends meet once more :)
[11:21] <jende> Jucato: hehe
[11:21] <jende> dude_: is your system running well?even without any betas installed?
[11:22] <dude_> jende: ya, im happy with my system right now....tnx
[11:22] <Jucato> good. keep it that way. :)
[11:22] <jende> dude_: did you read already some manpages?
[11:22] <dude_> jende: some application issues though
[11:22] <dude_> jende: manpages
[11:23] <jende> dude_: argggggggghhhhh
[11:23] <Jucato> lol
[11:23] <dude_> !manpages
[11:23] <ubotu> manpages: Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system. In component main, is standard. Version 2.17-1 (dapper), package size 400 kB, installed size 728 kB
[11:23] <dude_> :)
[11:23] <dude_> just joing
[11:23] <dude_> just joking
[11:24] <jende> dude_: haven't I told you to read some manpages to learn a bit bout tools such as apt?
[11:25] <dude_> jende: ya i will read the manual, nut 4 the meantime, im completing the transition from windows to linux
[11:25] <dude_> jende: ya i will read the manual, but 4 the meantime, im completing the transition from windows to linux
[11:26] <jende> dude_: good, but dont mess your system up
[11:26] <dude_> jende: i need to set up may foot pedal
[11:26] <dude_> jende: i need to set up may foot pedal
[11:27] <jende> dude_: what?
[11:27] <jende> dude_: I've got such things in my car and they don't need to be set up, nor updated or upgra
[11:28] <dad> I only use windows for 3 or 4 months before i disvovered Ubu etc.That was 3 months ago and windows has been sacked from 2 out of 3 pc`s in the house and i wont ever use wonky windows now that i had a taste of wobbly ones.Still cany get on ubunto channel though...duh
[11:28] <jende> dude_: I've got such things in my car and they don't need to be set up, nor updated or upgrade
[11:28] <Jucato> dad: so you're using Ubuntu, but can't get into #ubuntu?
[11:29] <dude_> jende: im working in a medical transcription company and i need to setup my foot pedal, but i can't get it working
[11:29] <Jucato> dad: did you try /join #ubuntu ?
[11:30] <kenny> hi all
[11:31] <dad> Yup....but i am using edgy\ gnome and only got konversation from synaptic cause i have it on my dappers kde and quite liked it.mabey something different i should be using?????Thanks for helping.I manage some of the "harder" stuff but get lost on the simple stuff...lol
[11:31] <dude_> jende: im working in a medical transcription company and i need to setup my foot pedal, but i can't get it working, can you help me on this
[11:31] <hastesaver> dude_, maybe the hardware isn't supported by Linux at all... you should check somewhere
[11:32] <Jucato> dad: it doesn't matter what client you're using. although I can't understand why you couldn't get into #ubuntu
[11:32] <dude_> hastesaver: im using wine to run the express scribe software, but it can't detect the foot pedal
[11:33] <hastesaver> dude_, first  check if Linux has recognised the foot pedal; only then check if Windows programs running under Wine recognise it :-)
[11:34] <jende> dude_: I guess I cant help you with this
[11:34] <prophit> good morning world
[11:34] <dude_> jende: its ok
[11:35] <prophit> anyone here ever use the lfs kernels?
[11:35] <jende> dude_: thx
[11:35] <dad> I gathered that much m8 but im not doing anything different.They were both already there ready to use but i cant sem to access ubunto as i can this.NO DOUBT something stupid im missing or not doing but i cant see what
[11:35] <kenny_> is there
[11:35] <kenny_> oops
[11:35] <kenny_> :=
[11:35] <hastesaver> dad, maybe it's because it's spelt "ubuntu" and not "ubunto"?
[11:37] <grothesk> Has someone a clue if nvidia-glx will be updated by ubuntu?
[11:39] <Jucato> !nvidia-glx edgy
[11:39] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8774+2.6.17.5-11 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[11:39] <grothesk> That is an old version and has a security issue. 8776 is the patched one.
[11:39] <dude_> jende: i can't find the manual, i already installed it
[11:39] <dad> Sorry if im making typo`s anywhere but as i said this and the ubuntO channel were already there(so spelled right:-)....i click on "#kubunto" and i get you`se all fine but if i click on "ubunto" then all i see is..[Notice]  -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else..What am i not doing right??
[11:39] <sacha_> huh? #ubuntu ?
[11:39] <jende> dude_: where are you looking for the manpages, though?
[11:39] <Jucato> dad: it means someone already owns that nick
[11:40] <Jucato> dad: just change your name to something else. like dad0 or dad1 if you want
[11:40] <dude_> here
[11:40] <Jucato>  /nick <nickname>
[11:40] <sacha_> ohh when you join server
[11:40] <dude_> my box
[11:40] <T3hWiz0rd> hmmm my splash screen is different and my login screen different on kubuntu now that i reinstalled kwin-crystal
[11:40] <hastesaver> dad, It is "ubuntU" (ends with an U), not ubunto
[11:40] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone got any idea how i rechange it back?
[11:41] <jende> dude_: you'll get the manpages on the console...try man apt
[11:41] <dad> WHAT...so i can be my system username...ie"dad" on here but will need to change it on the ubuntu channel
[11:41] <sacha_> T3hWiz0rd: splash screen settings are in appearance, did anything change there?
[11:41] <T3hWiz0rd> yeah a few things
[11:41] <sacha_> can just manually change it back?
[11:41] <hastesaver> dad, and "nickname already owned by someone else" is not really a problem, until the other person comes and kicks you out
[11:41] <BadRabbit320> cpk2  u awake?
[11:41] <T3hWiz0rd> the kubuntu one is gone
[11:41] <Jucato> dad: of course. the IRC client uses your computer's user name. but that doesn't automatically mean that you'll be able to use that in IRC
[11:41] <sacha_> other people are also using that name :P
[11:42] <Jucato> your PC and the IRC server are completely independent and separate
[11:42] <hastesaver> dad, yes... anyone can be "dad" on their own computers; it wouldn't do well to have hundreds of people on #ubuntu with the same name
[11:42] <sacha_> T3hWiz0rd: "Default" disappeared from splash screen? :O
[11:42] <T3hWiz0rd> its the kde default though not the kubuntu
[11:42] <jende> dude_: have 'em?
[11:42] <sacha_> oh kubuntu one disappeared? i think you can just d/l it again
[11:43] <T3hWiz0rd> from where?
[11:43] <dude_> jende: ya, is there a graphical interface maual?
[11:43] <dude_> jende: ya, is there a graphical interface manual?
[11:43] <jende> dude_: not really, but you can use konqueror
[11:43] <Jucato> dude_: in Konqueror, type man:/apt or something like that
[11:43] <sacha_> well if you cant find it, could always ask someone to send theirs :)
[11:44] <dad> Right.......i sort of thought that to begin but the someone said"your usernames fine" and so i just thought IF i could use it on this channel then i should be able to use it on the ubuntu channel.I understand that "dad" is mabey a very common username but it was just this accepting it and the "it`s ok" that sort of threw me...sorry
[11:44] <T3hWiz0rd> its almost as if it deleted my entire .kde folder.
[11:45] <sacha_> :O
[11:45] <dude_> jende: i'll just search the web for that manual, pdf format
[11:45] <sacha_> well if you delete .kde folder, it makes it again when you login
[11:45] <sacha_> with default stuff.. maybe kubuntu splash screen not in that
[11:45] <T3hWiz0rd> i know that.
[11:45] <Jucato> dad: I said that your username's fine, in a way that there's nothing wrong with it. but of course that doesn't discount the fact that there might be someone else using it in another channel. like what happens in #ubuntu
[11:45] <Jucato> oh.. you don't have to delete the whole .kde directory...
[11:46] <Jucato> if you do that, you lose *all* customizations you made
[11:46] <sacha_> yep
[11:46] <Jucato> you can safely just delete the specific config/directory...
[11:46] <jende> dude_: you might find something in wikipedia
[11:46] <sacha_> if you can join this server with your name that means the name isn't being used.. you can join any channel then
[11:46] <Jucato> but afaik, the default ksplash theme is in kubuntu-default-settings
[11:47] <dude_> ok, tnx
[11:47] <jende> dude_: maybe you can browse the debian.org site, too
[11:47] <Jucato> dude_: you can browse it offline in Konqueror, using man:/
[11:48] <dad> Sorry m8.....i just assumed that you meant it was ok for me to use.......Theres obviously nothing wrong with the actual name.Not after some ive seen..lol.Thanks anyway.It ALL helps.I`ll go try a new name
[11:49] <_ZeeO> i'm having a prob with sound it seems like only one sound can play at a time if i'm playing mp3s and a sound trys to play it don't play tillt he mp3 is done
[11:49] <_ZeeO> then i get like 10 sounds at onec
[11:50] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: i am gonna just reinstall kubuntu desktop
[11:50] <_ZeeO> .
[11:50] <sacha_> :O
[11:50] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: no harm in that eh?
[11:50] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: or is that a "Bad idea"?
[11:50] <sacha_> reinstall as in what?
[11:50] <sacha_> delete .kde?
[11:51] <sacha_> or reinstall the OS?
[11:51] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: no, somehow everything got jacked up... sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <T3hWiz0rd> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <sacha_> oh ok
[11:51] <Jucato> wouldn't do much good T3hWiz0rd
[11:51] <_ZeeO> no one ess have this with sound?
[11:52] <T3hWiz0rd> its not letting me.
[11:52] <_ZeeO> i'm on a dell laptop
[11:52] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: it'll reinstall all the default kubuntu packages, will it not? for kde?
[11:52] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: no
[11:52] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: how can i reinstall those?
[11:52] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: my guess is that it's still installed. just not visible from the Splash Screen options.
[11:53] <Jucato> try looking for ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash and delete that folder so that your system will use the default splash settings
[11:53] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: for record: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings
[11:53] <T3hWiz0rd> it reinstalls the defaults :-P
[11:54] <T3hWiz0rd> just did it
[11:54] <T3hWiz0rd> all working now too
[11:54] <T3hWiz0rd> back to normal
[11:54] <Jucato> so it's back to normal?
[11:54] <T3hWiz0rd> yeah
[11:54] <T3hWiz0rd> scared me for a second lol
[11:54] <Jucato> good for you then
[11:54] <Jucato> :)
[11:55] <T3hWiz0rd> i actually like showing off the kubuntu logo when i log in at work
[11:55] <T3hWiz0rd> didn't want it gone
[11:57] <maddad> So even on here it changes to "maddad" but still dont work on ubuntu channel.....Mabey i should just install kubuntu desktop here on edgy too:-)....be bloody easier cause i aint getting on to no "ubuntu" channel
[11:57] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: being the only certified administrator,. i am the only one with authority to choose what OS i run
[11:57] <T3hWiz0rd> everyone else is stuck on winblows so i can monitor them closer.
[11:57] <magicmike> Yo jende. How's it going?
[11:57] <Jucato> hm..
[11:57] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: and so that they don't break stuff.
[11:57] <jende> magicmike: not toooooo bad
[11:57] <magicmike> Good.
[11:57] <jende> magicmike: and yourself?
[11:57] <T3hWiz0rd> okay thats enough breaking of the linux for me today.
[11:57] <T3hWiz0rd> I am goinbg to bed. Laters.
[11:58] <jende> brb
[11:58] <magicmike> Good. Thanks. I reinstalled ubuntu onto the new hd and I've got the networking configured. Can we do that update thing again?
[11:58] <Jucato> bye T3hWiz0rd
[11:58] <harmental> hi everybody....
[11:59] <magicmike> Hi
[11:59] <sacha_> hi
[11:59] <harmental> how can i convert a png file to a pdf file of the same size?
[11:59] <prophit> how do i install the flash player from adobe on kubuntu?
[11:59] <Jucato> !flash
[11:59] <timothy_> how do i make a program run at startup
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <timothy_> ?
[12:00] <Jucato> prophit: read that link ^^^^ (works only on 32-bit systems, afaik)
[12:00] <Jucato> timothy_: put a link to the program in ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:00] <Jucato> or
[12:00] <_ZeeO> !soubd
[12:00] <Jucato> just leave it open before you logout, and if your system is set to restore from a previous session (this is the default behavior) it will open once you log back in
[12:01] <_ZeeO> !sound
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soubd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:01] <magicmike> jende: You awake, mate?
[12:02] <jende> magicmike: sure am...I shouldn't sleep now as its just noon
[12:03] <magicmike> Where are you?
[12:03] <jende> magicmike: germnay
[12:03] <magicmike> It's 6 am here.
[12:03] <jende> magicmike: germany
[12:03] <magicmike> Cool. My best gal pal is from Germany. We've been friends over 25 years. Her name's Ute.
[12:04] <jende> magicmike: okay...where abouts in G is she?
[12:05] <magicmike> She lives here in the US. New York state. Not sure where she is originally from but I'll check and let you know.
[12:05] <jende> magicmike: I've been years ago in NYC, had a nice stay at the paramount hotel
[12:05] <magicmike> I met her mom a couple years ago when she came here to visit.
[12:05] <magicmike> I drank there once. LOL
[12:06] <Jucato> ...
[12:06] <jende> magicmike: where? at the paramount?
[12:07] <Jucato> need to take a nap... jende you take care :)
[12:07] <Jucato> I kinda feel drowsy..
[12:07] <magicmike> Yea. Well, yesterday I couldn't do the rep updates because of some hash marks that had to be editied out. If you can get me to that sources.list thing again I should be able to edit it and get setup.
[12:10] <jende> magicmike: press ALT+F2 and type in the commandline box kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:10] <BadRabbit320> hi all, how do I get to use the msttcorefonts(already installed 'and' showing in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts), but not available to use when I try to change my fonts in kcontrol center fonts?
[12:11] <jende> !paste
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:11] <magicmike> I'll have to write these commands down for future ref.
[12:12] <jende> magicmike: and your sources.list should be like this after you've modofied it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27320/
[12:13] <magicmike> Just one silly question. Could I have run that command line in console as well?
[12:17] <jende> magicmike: no, in commandline it is sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list    read man vi
[12:17] <sacha_> alt+f2 just runs a command in a terminal but doesnt pop the terminal up for you
[12:17] <jende> magicmike: no, in commandline it is sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list    read-> man vi
[12:17] <sacha_> you could run it in the terminal, but you wouldnt be able to use that terminal until you closed kate
[12:17] <jende> sacha_: yep, that's what I meant...just haven't been that precise, I suppose
[12:17] <jende> sacha_: but I prefer the vi anyway, but not that easy sometimes to use for newb's
[12:17] <sacha_> yeah i prefer it too :) /search is nice
[12:17] <jende> sacha_: yep ;)
[12:17] <sacha_> instead of ctrl+w in nano, etc
[12:17] <jende> sacha_: vi is just perfect
[12:17] <sacha_> and to just 'dd' out a line
[12:17] <jende> magicmike: are you getting there?
[12:19] <jende> JosefK: howdy
[12:19] <JosefK> jende: hoi :)
[12:20] <magicmike> I think so. What's next?
[12:23] <BadRabbit320> !icoutils
[12:23] <ubotu> icoutils: Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.25.0-1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 172 kB
[12:24] <BadRabbit320> !msttcorefonts
[12:24] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[12:25] <sacha_> !x11-fonts-corefonts
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x11-fonts-corefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <tony_> Good morning. I need help installing a webcam.
[12:26] <jende> magicmike: so, you've saved the changes
[12:26] <jende> tony
[12:26] <jende> !webcam
[12:26] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:26] <ubuntu_> hi peeps 1syt time Linux user here,.ne 1 know how i be able to connect and see/download from my local network (all winXP)
[12:26] <tony_> Hi jende
[12:26] <jende> !webcam
[12:26] <tony_> !webcam
[12:26] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:27] <magicmike> Yea. Take a quick look. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27458/
[12:27] <hyper> how can I mount .cue files?
[12:27] <hyper> hello abattoir :)
[12:27] <jende> magicmike: well done
[12:27] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[12:28] <magicmike> Thanks. What's next?
[12:28] <abattoir> hyper: how are you?
[12:28] <hyper> doing fine :)
[12:28] <abattoir> great :)
[12:28] <jende> magicmike: now open a console (Alt+F2)
[12:28] <hyper> what about you?
[12:28] <hyper> always helping other people in here?
[12:28] <abattoir> doing fine as well :)
[12:28] <magicmike> Yup
[12:28] <abattoir> hyper: no, haven't been very active here for the past few days... having exams
[12:28] <jende> magicmike: and then type: sudo apt-get update
[12:29] <skahead> hat hier jemand kgamma am laufen?
[12:29] <hyper> abattoir: I hope they went/go well
[12:29] <hyper> !de
[12:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:29] <skahead> sry wrong channel
[12:29] <abattoir> hyper: thanks :)
[12:30] <abattoir> hyper: they have been going well, so far ;)
[12:30] <hyper> abattoir: good to hear :)
[12:30] <ubuntu_> ne 1 can help me to get my local network ,.working on Kubuntu
[12:30] <hyper> abattoir: may I have a guess: It's computer science?
[12:30] <magicmike> And hope it doesn't wipe out my network this time. LOL
[12:30] <ubuntu_> so i can take sum linux programs from my other PC
[12:30] <jende> magicmike: is the update running?
[12:30] <hyper> ubunut_ what doesn't work?
[12:31] <ubuntu_> well it says its not running
[12:31] <magicmike> Done. Do I now sudo apt get install?
[12:31] <jende> magicmike: what was it again you wanted to install?
[12:31] <hyper> abattoir: I don't have a registered nick so I can't query you :) anyway, seems you're studying the same as I do :)
[12:31] <skahead> has someone kgamma running?
[12:32] <abattoir> hyper: oh ok, really? that's nice :)
[12:32] <ubuntu_> If i go to Network service it says " Zeroconf-Deamon (rndnsd) not running
[12:32] <newRunner> is any package listing to see in the web about CD and DVD packages of kubuntu?
[12:32] <magicmike> I wanted to install a firewall, multimedia codecs and perhaps a newsreader that handles nzb files.
[12:32] <hyper> abattoir: now I should be working on my master thesis in law... but I find every excuse to not work on it... e.g. like checking how it would be to found the Pirate Party in Switzerland ^^
[12:33] <jende> magicmike: yep, thats what it was ;-)
[12:33] <abattoir> newRunner: one sec... for Dapper?
[12:33] <newRunner> yes
[12:33] <abattoir> hyper: heh :P
[12:33] <newRunner> I want a full list of CD and DVD
[12:34] <jende> magicmike: here we go -> type: sudo apt-get install menus kmyfirewall libxine-extracodecs
[12:34] <tony_> How do I add lines to the source list?
[12:34] <jende> tony_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:34] <sacha_> newrunner: dvd+rw-tools ?
[12:34] <magicmike> Reply: E: Couldn't find package menus
[12:34] <sacha_> full list would be on a rep site
[12:34] <abattoir> newRunner: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.list is for the cd
[12:35] <jende> magicmike: here we go -> type: sudo apt-get install menu kmyfirewall libxine-extracodecs
[12:35] <hyper> ubuntu_ what does that demon do?
[12:35] <newRunner> and for dvd ?
[12:35] <ubuntu_>  shud be conecting me to my local network i think
[12:35] <ubuntu_> i got 3 more pc's running on Win XP
[12:36] <abattoir> newRunner: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/kubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.list is the dvd
[12:36] <ubuntu_>  got sum stuff on it for Linux i want on here
[12:36] <abattoir> newRunner: be patient :P
[12:36] <magicmike> That s screwed things up huh? LOL
[12:36] <tony_> Thanks again jende
[12:36] <ubuntu_> like gd virusscan and stuff
[12:36] <newRunner> very thanks abattoir....
[12:36] <hyper> ubuntu_ well, networking worked for me right out of the box after I set the correc ESSID :)
[12:36] <abattoir> newRunner: no problem :)
[12:37] <ubuntu_> how and where i do that ?
[12:37] <ubuntu_> im 1st time linux user :p
[12:37] <ubuntu_> was curious about it
[12:37] <jende> tony_: no worries, you're welcom
[12:37] <jende> tony_: no worries, you're welcome
[12:37] <hyper> ubuntu_ hmmm, you are in Kubuntu right?
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu why do you need a virus scan program ??
[12:37] <ubuntu_> yes ,.runnin from cd still havent full inbstalled it
[12:37] <ubuntu_> might be doing that in bit
[12:38] <hyper> ubuntu_ oh... not sure if wireless runs from the live cd
[12:38] <jende> magicmike: what has things screwed up?
[12:38] <hyper> but if you have a normal ethernet card
[12:38] <ubuntu_> hmm i have wireless but not on this pc m8
[12:38] <ubuntu_> i do
[12:38] <hyper> ubuntu_ KStart (Button) --> System Settings --> Network Settings
[12:39] <magicmike> Nothing. Just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and now waiting for it to finish.
[12:39] <ubuntu_> im there
[12:40] <hyper> is eth0 activated?
[12:40] <ubuntu_> and can see my ethernet card
[12:40] <jende> magicmike: how many packages will it download?
[12:40] <magicmike> A lot.
[12:40] <ubuntu_> uhm think so its saying @ interface eth0
[12:40] <jende> magicmike: in numbers?
[12:40] <hyper> does it say enabled?
[12:40] <jende> hyper: what about kdesu route?
[12:40] <harmental> how can i convert a png file to a pdf file of the same size?
[12:41] <ubuntu_> yes m8
[12:41] <hyper> routes is also correct?
[12:41] <ubuntu_> im running it in Dutch so had to look lolo
[12:41] <jende> harmental: open the png in openoffice writer and export it as aPDF
[12:41] <magicmike> 374 upgraded 8 new
[12:41] <hyper> correct gateway and correct interface?
[12:41] <jende> magicmike: thats brill
[12:42] <harmental> jende: thx!!
[12:42] <jende> harmental: you're welcome
[12:42] <ubuntu_> im not sure ,.gonna have to take a look on other pc for that now
[12:42] <magicmike> After that continues I should run sudo apt-get install menus and then sudo update-menus?
[12:43] <ubuntu_> thnx neways ,.ima have a look :)
[12:43] <jende> magicmike: yeah, but its menu not menus
[12:43] <hyper> ubuntu_: just check that all the settings are correct in there
[12:43] <magicmike> Okay. Thanks.
[12:43] <tony_> Does Kubuntu have or can I get a program that I can make a Recovery image of my machine so I can back my hd up in case I mess something up?
[12:43] <jende> harmental: make sure that "automatic fileextension" is enabled!!!
[12:44] <jende> tony_: sure
[12:44] <hyper> tony_: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_systemimager
[12:45] <jende> tony_: in the menu -> system -> keep
[12:45] <tony_> I'm new and I would hate to lose all the things you guys have helped me get. I don't think I can remember how to get them back.
[12:45] <tony_> Thanks again jende
[12:46] <jende> tony_: have it?
[12:46] <hyper> tony_: I setup a wiki for myself with all the things I do in here... so if I need to set up the machine again I can just mainly copy'n'paste from there :)
[12:46] <tony_> Maybe ounce I know what I'm doing ....I can do the same!
[12:47] <sacha_> im wondering if compositing works for anyone? i get this big mess of overlapped windows.. what's it meant to look like?
[12:47] <hyper> tony_: well, it's just a bit aid for me... people have helped me with so many things there is no chance I can remember all of that :)
[12:48] <tony_> This is the main thing I get confused with Linux. I ran the Easy Cam program. It finished...thats it. Where did it go..?
[12:48] <Tm_T> sacha_: Well, if you use translucency, it will come a mess with multiple windows. :)
[12:49] <tony_> It seems every time I try to install something it does that. I can never find it.
[12:49] <jende> tony_: it should be in the menu -> multimedia section if everything went fine
[12:49] <hyper> tony_: no clue where it adds icons in kubuntu... however I think you should be able to just run it from bash:  EasyCam
[12:50] <jende> tony_: but that's just a guess, cause I don't have it installed
[12:51] <sacha_> it's even a mess with 1 window.. the taskbar is transparent but the window goes all black and stuff changes colour with mouseover.. also gets very slow
[12:52] <sacha_> tony_: it installed a module for your webcam?
[12:52] <sacha_> what was it called?
[12:52] <Tm_T> sacha_: Sounds fun, can you take a pic?
[12:52] <tony_> I typed Easy Cam in the run command...it asked for the passwod...the screen flashed...thats it. Its not anywhere...
[12:52] <sacha_> i can barely find the apply button to change it back when i do it :P i'll just try alt+f2 and typing snapshot
[12:53] <hyper> tony_: not with a whie space between it
[12:53] <tony_> I think thats what it was supposed to do sacha_
[12:53] <hyper> tony_: EasyCam
[12:53] <sacha_> tony_: you know the module name? try sudo lsmod
[12:53] <sacha_> oh btw alt+f2 doesnt work for me now that desktop is failing
[12:53] <jende> tony_: whats the brand/model of your webcam?
[12:54] <tony_> Logitec QuickCam
[12:54] <sacha_> there's many many types of quickcams...
[12:55] <sacha_> messenger, express, web, .. ?
[12:55] <hyper> fusion
[12:56] <jende> sacha_: it should be either the pwc module oor the spca5xx
[12:57] <CVirus> !log
[12:57] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:57] <sacha_> if you have your kernel automatically load modules, you shouldn't have to ever 'find it' tony_
[12:57] <sacha_> but if you know the name, you can modprobe it
[12:57] <jende> sacha_: try sudo modprobe pwc
[12:57] <magicmike> Yea, mine is Logitech Quickcam Messenger. I'll check out your instructions when I'm ready to install it.
[12:58] <sacha_> not me jende :P
[12:58] <jende> sacha_: true...ooooops...
[12:58] <jende> tony_: try sudo modprobe pwc
[12:59] <jende> tony_: that is AFAIK the most common module for Logitech QuickCams
[01:00] <BadRabbit320> !bash
[01:00] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:01] <josh_> What font on kubuntu MOSTLY resembles Arial on windows?
[01:02] <sacha_> just download the arial font josh_ :)
[01:03] <sacha_> you can download microsoft core fonts
[01:03] <josh_> Will it work on kubuntu?
[01:03] <sacha_> yes
[01:03] <josh_> Oh :o
[01:03] <josh_> Sweet thanks :d
[01:03] <sacha_> !msttcorefonts
[01:03] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[01:04] <josh_> How would i install it? or where? i'm new on kubuntu, used ubuntu for a little bit, but i can't find the repositorys on kubuntu :x
[01:05] <jende> josh_: as the msttcorefonts are *optional* in the repo *multiverse* you want to change your sources.list
[01:05] <hyper> josh_: the reposirotires are at the same place  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <josh_> ok ty
[01:06] <jende> magicmike: are you still downloading?
[01:10] <jende> tony_: we need, before you do a modprobe the output of 'lsusb'
[01:10] <sacha_> i think he's using terminal as a user, so he needs sudo lsusb
[01:10] <jende> tony_: and it can be happen that is a bit of a hassle to get the camera working properly
[01:10] <josh_> On ubuntu there was sympatec (sp) or whatever to get programs, is there something like that for kubuntu? and where is it?
[01:11] <jende> tony_: true, sometimes I think people should know *sudo* after they've used like 4-5times
[01:11] <hazard2> dselect
[01:11] <hazard2> ???
[01:12] <jende> josh_: adept???
[01:12] <sacha_> it might be a bit hard on him if he tries lsusb as user and it says command not found :P might think it wouldnt work as root either
[01:12] <hazard2> or that
[01:12] <sacha_> System->Adept i think
[01:12] <josh_> Er, i don't know what it's called on kubuntu, on ubuntu there was a place where i could open and it would give me a list of repositorys and i could find what i need, download, and install from there. It was like, sympantec or something.
[01:12] <sacha_> yes josh :)
[01:12] <sacha_> front-end for apt-get
[01:12] <jende> josh_: taht is adept -> packetmanager
[01:12] <hazard2> I tghought you were talking about CLI stuff
[01:14] <josh_> it isn't under system. :x
[01:14] <sacha_> ok, not sure where it's under, just a guess :P
[01:14] <sacha_> Settings?
[01:14] <jende> josh_: it is here on dapper and edgy in the section system, as the first program
[01:14] <hyper> josh: from bash you could use aptitude
[01:18] <jende> magicmike: ???
[01:18] <sacha_> yay it was system :)
[01:18] <magicmike> Yupper.
[01:18] <magicmike> Still doing it's thing.
[01:18] <josh_> Search ftw, found it
[01:18] <davide_> ciao a tutti
[01:18] <davide_> ciao jende
[01:18] <Tm_T> !it
[01:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:18] <davide_> ah sorry
[01:18] <davide_> i forgot
[01:18] <Tm_T> ;)
[01:18] <jende> hey davide
[01:18] <jende> davide_: I found a driver for your printer
[01:18] <davide_> there are news jende
[01:18] <jende> what was the model again?
[01:18] <davide_> yesterday i spent about 2 hours to understand
[01:18] <davide_> the problem
[01:18] <davide_> and at the end
[01:18] <davide_> i was able to install drivers
[01:18] <jende> davide_: Brilliant!!!
[01:18] <davide_> but the story has not finished,unfortunately
[01:18] <davide_> eheheh
[01:18] <davide_> now when i try to print
[01:18] <davide_> the printer doesn't start
[01:18] <jende> davide_: but at least you've learned a bit and understand a few things better now
[01:18] <davide_> sure
[01:18] <davide_> i'm understanding each day more
[01:18] <davide_> and i'm loving Ubuntu
[01:18] <tony_> Does Kubuntu auto detect when you plug something into a USB port? I'm wondering if my USB ports are working.....
[01:18] <jende> davide_: so what printer was it again?
[01:18] <davide_> it's Canon i250
[01:19] <jende> tony_: what do you want to plug into the USB ?
[01:19] <davide_> tony_ it doesn't recognize my usb
[01:19] <josh_> How do i give Adept administrative privelages?
[01:19] <sacha_> type in password? it should just prompt you josh_
[01:19] <tony_> I'm still messing with the webcam... jende
[01:19] <jende> davide_: give a min and I'll post you a Link to get the right printerdriver, okay
[01:19] <josh_> Hmm,
[01:19] <josh_> No, it didn't prompt and it sais it doesn't have administrative properties
[01:20] <jende> tony_: what tells you sudo lsusb?
[01:20] <sacha_> if for some reason it isnt, just run adept from alt+f2 as user: root
[01:20] <davide_> yes jende i'll wait
[01:20] <davide_> ;)
[01:20] <davide_> it's so beautiful this community,everyone offers his help!
[01:20] <sacha_> click options on the alt+f2 dialog to have the change user part appear
[01:20] <davide_> wonderful!
[01:20] <BadRabbit320> is there a newer ver of kde (i have 3.5.2) and if so, how do i update it?
[01:20] <sacha_> 3.5.5 BadRabbit320
[01:21] <sacha_> does it not show that version in Adept? :S
[01:23] <tony_> jende: it just puts the cursor all the way to th left of the screen and sits there.
[01:23] <josh_> How do i make it, so when i hover over something on the bar the bubble doesn't pop up and give a summary of it or whatever..?
[01:23] <jende> tony_: no output at all?
[01:24] <tony_> Nope.
[01:24] <jende> tony_: sudo lsusb
[01:24] <sacha_> whoops jende.. cant run it as sudo either
[01:24] <sacha_> have to run it as root
[01:24] <jende> sacha_: I said sudo lsusb
[01:24] <sacha_> yeah sudo doesnt work
[01:24] <fildo> hi all
[01:24] <jende> sacha_: thats weird
[01:24] <tony_> jende: same thing
[01:24] <sacha_> bash-3.1$ sudo lsusb
[01:24] <sacha_> sudo: lsusb: command not found
[01:25] <sacha_> $ lsusb
[01:25] <sacha_> Bus 1 Device 2: ID 09da:022b A4 Tech Co., Ltd
[01:25] <jende> !paste
[01:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:26] <sacha_> tony_: type in: su -      and then your password and then: lsusb
[01:26] <sacha_> that is, your root password
[01:26] <josh_> Is there a terminal command i can type to get the basic microsoft fonts?
[01:26] <jende> sacha_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27464/
[01:26] <apokryphos> josh_: install msttcorefonts from multiverse
[01:26] <tony_> jende: su: Authentication failure
[01:27] <sacha_> yeah jende, it musnt be in the bin folder for user, only for root
[01:27] <josh_> Type that in terminal? or 'multiverse'?
[01:27] <apokryphos> tony_: what are you trying to do?
[01:27] <apokryphos> josh_: use Kubuntu's package manager
[01:27] <jende> davide_: bad day, though
[01:27] <apokryphos> josh_: first you'll have to add the multiverse repository -- for how to do that, please see the FAQ in the channel /topic
[01:27] <davide_> jende why you say this?
[01:28] <davide_> there are not drivers?
[01:28] <jende> davide_: just tested the driver and that driver doesn't work at all
[01:28] <sacha_> tony_: you have to use root password, not user password
[01:28] <davide_> ah ok
[01:28] <davide_> What luck!!
[01:28] <davide_> eheheeheh
[01:28] <D4m4ge> hello
[01:28] <davide_> no but it's really strange
[01:28] <jende> davide_: there is one which got tested and approved, the thing is that this driver cost money
[01:28] <D4m4ge> uh...did i just make a /who command?
[01:28] <D4m4ge> i did not ask anything...
[01:28] <davide_> that the driver i have
[01:28] <tony_> jende:  i did.
[01:28] <davide_> fonction for others but not for me
[01:29] <davide_> it's absurd!
[01:29] <tony_> I mean sacha_
[01:29] <sacha_> it's not your sudo password
[01:29] <jende> davide_: no its not absurd that is the businesspolitic by canon and lexmark
[01:30] <davide_> but i thought than canon was one of the societies that offered supports for linux
[01:30] <tony_> sacha_: if i change to a root Konsole it lets me in...
[01:30] <jende> davide_: have a look at: http://www.turboprint.info/
[01:30] <sacha_> ok go to a root konsole, then do: lsusb
[01:31] <davide_> jende:  but i need to connect to a dialer
[01:32] <host-one> ciao a tutti
[01:32] <tony_> sacha_: the cursor goes all the way to the left of the screen and sits there
[01:32] <magicmike> Be back in a few. Getting kids ready for school.
[01:32] <davide_> to download this driver
[01:32] <davide_> ?
[01:32] <jende> davide_: noooooo
[01:36] <sacha_> i don't know then :S
[01:36] <jende> davide_: whats your email addi?
[01:36] <davide_> it's davideniko@libero.it
[01:36] <tony_> I'll have to try this again later...Time for work.  Thanks guys!! jende and sacha_
[01:36] <jende> davide_: just downloaded the driver and will sent it now to your address
[01:36] <davide_> jende i really thank you
[01:37] <jende> davide_: its on the way; its kinda huge the file - 6.xMB's ;-)
[01:38] <michi_> hi, does anybody know if it is a problem having 2 GUI's installed at the same time?
[01:38] <davide_> ah ok
[01:38] <sacha_> no problem michi_ :) none that i have come across anyway
[01:40] <michi_> ok, thanks. than i will install xfce now....
[01:40] <davide_> jende i go for 20 minutes
[01:40] <davide_> see you later?
[01:41] <jende> davide_: the upload is now on 50%
[01:41] <davide_> ah ok
[01:42] <jende> davide_: I'll be back in lets say 45mins
[01:42] <davide_> 20 minutes and i'll be here
[01:42] <davide_> so,see you later
[01:42] <davide_> and thank you jende!
[01:42] <jende> davide_: I've got to go quickly to get some food will be back in 45mins,okay
[01:42] <jende> davide_: see ya
[01:43] <jende> see ya soonish folks; need some food
[01:46] <josh_> It's not letting me fetch updates after adding the universe and multiverse repositorys. =[
[01:47] <livingdaylight> guys where is teh dictionary that comes in Ubuntu by default?
[01:47] <livingdaylight> is that just a Gnome feature or does KDE have the same or equivalent dictionary feature?
[01:48] <MistaED> livingdaylight: afaik kde does have it, it might need enabling in kcontrol
[01:48] <magicmike> Yo jende. Guess what?
[01:48] <josh_> Jende left for food.
[01:48] <livingdaylight> MistaED: i figured it must. KDE has everything afaik
[01:48] <livingdaylight> MistaED: but where?
[01:49] <magicmike> After reboot, my only networking option is the dialup modem. Okay, thanks.
[01:49] <livingdaylight> MistaED: kubuntu doesn't have kcontrol - do you mean system settings?
[01:49] <MistaED> livingdaylight: lemme look, i'm in gnome at the moment but i do have kcontrol
[01:49] <MistaED> yeah if that has it
[01:50] <MistaED> you can still run kcontrol from the terminal
[01:50] <josh_> Anyone know why it won't let me fetch updates after i added universe/multiverse repositories? =(
[01:50] <MistaED> livingdaylight: it's under kde components > spell checker
[01:52] <livingdaylight> MistaED: found it in system settings but how to bring spell checker to the desktop?
[01:53] <MistaED> livingdaylight: not sure, i just know it did have that option ;) sorry
[01:53] <MistaED> konqueror might have an enable/disable itself
[01:53] <livingdaylight> Anyone know how to bring the dictionary to the desktop
[01:53] <sacha_> there's probably something on kde-apps for that
[01:53] <sacha_> oh yeah konqueror has spell check
[01:53] <livingdaylight> i want dictionary, not a spell checker
[01:54] <sacha_> ohh dictionary
[01:54] <livingdaylight> an independent dictionary apart from any webclient
[01:54] <MistaED> oh sorry livingdaylight, i think there is a tool somewhere but it logs into a website
[01:54] <livingdaylight> sacha_: yes, please
[01:54] <sacha_> use 'dict' :) it's very nice dictionary i used in Hiweed
[01:54] <livingdaylight> a dcitionary client like in Gnome
[01:55] <livingdaylight> why this doesn't come default i don't know - it does in Gnome/ubuntu
[01:55] <livingdaylight> sacha_: do i have to install it then?
[01:55] <sacha_> yeah
[01:55] <Moffia> Hello
[01:55] <livingdaylight> sudo apt-get install dict ?
[01:55] <sacha_> not sure if it's in your rep, try it
[01:56] <sacha_> try: dictd
[01:57] <sacha_> nvm that's daemon
[01:57] <sacha_> dict-wn ?
[01:59] <pinchartl> hi
[01:59] <pinchartl> I need to install Linux on an "old" computer (400MHz, 128MB of RAM). I'd like to get reasonable performances, and don't really care about the eye candy but need an easy to use (for non geeks) desktop environment. would kubuntu do ?
[01:59] <livingdaylight> sacha_: dict should work but didn't from command line, due to dependency or somthing. but synaptic apparently did
[02:00] <livingdaylight> sacha_: so now where is it?
[02:00] <sacha_> try: dict ?
[02:00] <hazard2> pinchartl: it'd be slow, but it'd work.
[02:00] <pinchartl> hazard2: how slow ? usable ?
[02:00] <hazard2> if you had more ram you'd get much better perforemence
[02:01] <hazard2> I'm not sure.
[02:01] <pinchartl> the computer is not mine, I can't add more ram
[02:01] <hazard2> it would depend on what it decides to load (or what you tell it)
[02:01] <hazard2> whose is it?
[02:01] <pinchartl> its a university computer
[02:02] <hazard2> I see...
[02:02] <hazard2> well...
[02:02] <pinchartl> I'd go for more RAM if I could
[02:02] <hazard2> how big is the harddrive (and you wouldn't happen to know if the drive is ultra-66 would you?)
[02:02] <Moffia> You can try DNS
[02:02] <hazard2> becuase if you've got a nice drive which is fast, the lack of ram might work out
[02:03] <pinchartl> hazard2: SCSI harddrive, 8GB if I remember well
[02:03] <Moffia> And 400MHz isnt that great
[02:03] <Moffia> I'd say get atleast 1GHz
[02:03] <hazard2> Also having a 3d card (a REAL non-INTEGRATED) one would probably help
[02:03] <pinchartl> Moffia: DNS ?
[02:03] <Moffia> Damn Small Linux
[02:03] <hazard2> hey, kubuntu runs fine on this 733 P3.
[02:03] <Moffia> Wow!
[02:03] <Moffia> Even with that eyecandy of KDE?
[02:03] <hazard2> yes
[02:03] <Moffia> Amazing...
[02:03] <Baffy> nice
[02:03] <livingdaylight> where is this friggin dictionary?
[02:03] <hazard2> with 512ram though
[02:03] <pinchartl> Moffia: wouldn't that be DSL ? :-)
[02:03] <Moffia> Erm, woops
[02:04] <Moffia> My bad haha, DSL, yep ;)
[02:04] <Moffia> it's like 80MB
[02:04] <sacha_> livingdaylight: the dict command didnt work?
[02:04] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: in konqueror -> dict:someword
[02:04] <livingdaylight> i type dict in command line it just gives me the version
[02:04] <hazard2> And if this machine had a decient harddrive (as in one that isn't 4gb and only ultra33), it would go a good bit faster too
[02:04] <livingdaylight> and dict --help
[02:04] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: or install kdict
[02:04] <sacha_> ah kdict, thanks apok
[02:04] <Moffia> Kubuntu 92% yay
[02:04] <livingdaylight> i just want a gui in my applications menu so i can transfer it to my taskbar - even better!
[02:05] <MistaED> pinchartl: do you need .deb/apt-get? i'd consider zenwalk 3.0 but the package management isn't as good being slackware-based
[02:05] <sacha_> livingdaylight: try kdict (apokryphos suggestion)
[02:05] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: is that the one? thx bux
[02:05] <hazard2> pinchartl: you could try it, you'd need the 'alternate' installer CD since the normal one will load a GUI you don't have enough ram for.
[02:05] <Electrolyte[V2] > GRRR!!!
[02:05] <livingdaylight> *bud
[02:05] <apokryphos> np
[02:05] <MistaED> pinchartl: it's orders of magnitude faster than ubuntu on old hardware, it uses xfce4.x though
[02:05] <hazard2> but really, the only way to see if its ok for you is to try it.
[02:06] <Moffia> Kbuuntu 99% downloading w00p w00p ^^
[02:06] <pinchartl> ok thanks for your help everybody
[02:06] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: how do i now find it in my applications menu?
[02:07] <sacha_> livingdaylight: go to menu editor and add it in if it isnt there
[02:07] <hazard2> in regards to the performence of kubuntu on this 733, it plays most of my videos more smoothly than my faster machines (given they run either windows or mac os, and x11 seems to have better hardware RTC support on linux than either of the latter)
[02:07] <sacha_> it's probably in edutainment or something..
[02:08] <livingdaylight> sacha_: and where is the menu editor :)
[02:08] <MistaED> hazard2: how much ram though? kubuntu is unusable with 128mb i tested it myself
[02:09] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: don't know, I never use the k menu. Just alt+f2 -> kdict someword (or just plain kdict)
[02:09] <hazard2> 512 for me (-32 I think for giving integrated graphics something decient to use)
[02:09] <MistaED> the guidance didn't help either using python
[02:09] <sacha_> Settings->Menu Editor
[02:09] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: that takes too long
[02:09] <livingdaylight> i want dict on my taskbar for immediate reference/use
[02:09] <livingdaylight> sacha_: lol, guess where?
[02:10] <hazard2> wow...
[02:10] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: no, it's way faster -- that's the whole reason I don't use the k menu -- takes too long.
[02:10] <hazard2> that's impressive (in that weird geeky way)
[02:10] <sacha_> where?
[02:10] <apokryphos> livingdaylight: taskbar, or in the menu?
[02:10] <sacha_> edutainment?
[02:10] <livingdaylight> sacha_: applications/internet/more applications
[02:10] <sacha_> lol
[02:10] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: taskbar
[02:10] <apokryphos> then make a shortcut there
[02:10] <hazard2> playing an AVI though a network connection is only using <20% cpu (including everything presently running)
[02:10] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: then it is right there without altF2
[02:11] <sacha_> we thought you were talking baout Kmenu
[02:11] <sacha_> but yeah just add it into taskbar yourself as a shortcut
[02:11] <livingdaylight> sacha_: well, usually its in the k-menu first and then i can make a shortcut from there
[02:11] <Windwalker> Hi. I just started the installer (Kubuntu 6.10) and I do not see reiserfs?
[02:13] <apokryphos> Windwalker: it's not supported on Ubuntu
[02:13] <Windwalker> apokryphos: but in ubuntu i have dapper with reiserfs
[02:13] <sacha_> im on reiser right now :)
[02:13] <livingdaylight> Windwalker: ubuntu uses ext3
[02:13] <apokryphos> Windwalker: perhaps that's when support was dropped
[02:13] <livingdaylight> Windwalker: you can use reiserfs though if you prefer
[02:13] <sacha_> fdisk and then mkreiserfs
[02:13] <hazard2> what are the alternitives for an aim client to Kopete and Gaim?
[02:13] <Windwalker> I do not see it in the drop down menu
[02:13] <sacha_> you dont like newest kopete? :( :P
[02:13] <hazard2> I don't like all the options....
[02:13] <livingdaylight> Windwalker: are you suse user?
[02:13] <BonBonTheJon> sacha_: whats the newest version
[02:13] <Windwalker> are you satisfied with ext3? Is it stable after power down states?
[02:13] <sacha_> yeah wind, i think you'd have to do it manually... they dropped support cause of reiser being accused as a murderer
[02:13] <Windwalker> nope
[02:13] <hazard2> (I'm used to apple's iChat, lame as it may be, its nice and simple)
[02:14] <Windwalker> just tested Ubuntu dapper and was happy, but now want Kubuntu 6.10
[02:14] <apokryphos> sacha_: who did?
[02:14] <sacha_> a lot of distros dropped reiser support after Hans Reiser was accused of murdering his wife
[02:14] <Windwalker> :)
[02:14] <Windwalker> kidding???
[02:14] <sacha_> no
[02:14] <apokryphos> sacha_: can you name one?
[02:14] <sacha_> ubuntu?
[02:14] <Windwalker> yes
[02:14] <apokryphos> sacha_: no, that's not when they dropped 'support' for it.
[02:15] <sacha_> there's quite a lot, i think suse too? and fedora
[02:15] <Windwalker> can you suggest something else but really stable I am going to set up terminal server...
[02:15] <Windwalker> not distro
[02:15] <sacha_> they said they were considering dropping it before, but that just tipped it off
[02:15] <Windwalker> filesystem
[02:15] <livingdaylight> maybe Hans had a good reason for murdering his wife?
[02:15] <apokryphos> sacha_: I presume you mean SLED, in which case you'd be wrong too, they still support it.
[02:15] <livingdaylight>  :p
[02:15] <sacha_> windwalker: you can still use reiserfs just have to do it manually
[02:15] <Windwalker> livingdaylight: I guess so
[02:15] <Windwalker> cfdisk way?
[02:15] <sacha_> yes
[02:16] <Windwalker> 10x
[02:16] <hazard2> +3
[02:18] <Windwalker> sacha_: you said you use reiserfs. Do you find it stable...better than ntfs for example. I am not very familiar with unixfs regarding stability yet
[02:18] <Windwalker> ext3 vs. reiserfs in matter of reliability
[02:18] <apokryphos> reiserfs has certain advantages over ext3, and visa versa
[02:18] <apokryphos> most stability reiser issues are ancient, but some still float about
[02:18] <hazard2> ntfs makes me want to die.
[02:18] <Windwalker> not speaking about advantages but stability
[02:19] <sacha_> i have never had any problems with any filesystem, can't say really
[02:19] <hastesaver> sacha_, no, they had announced dropping support long before he was even accused. The reason was that no one was maintaining reiserfs, and it has nowhere to go
[02:19] <apokryphos> reiser outperforms ext3 on most I/O operations
[02:19] <sacha_> i know that haste, but they (not just ubuntu) said that it tipped it off/ fasttracked t if you will
[02:19] <Windwalker> not a performance issue but stability is my concern
[02:19] <apokryphos> hastesaver: if you're talking about SLED, once again -- support isn't being dropped, just it's losing its default fs status
[02:20] <apokryphos> Windwalker: I've used reiser for quite some time and I've never had any stability issues with it
[02:20] <apokryphos> though they also take quite a bit longer to mount than ext3 partitions
[02:20] <Windwalker> that was the question :) 10x
[02:20] <hastesaver> apokryphos, oops, sorry
[02:21] <hazard2> I use whater the linux installer decides to use.
[02:21] <sacha_> yeah, even after they drop 'support' you can still use reiserfs
[02:22] <hazard2> of course...
[02:22] <hazard2> it wouldn't be linux otherwise
[02:22] <sacha_> but a lot of people who use ubuntu tend to go with default
[02:22] <sacha_> so if you change default, you'll get a lot moving to whatever next is
[02:24] <jende> davide_: hi
[02:24] <jende> davide
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[02:24] <jende> 193.70.193.96 failed after I sent the message.
[02:24] <jende> Remote host said: 552 Error: message too large
[02:24] <hazard2> make the message smaller and try again
[02:25] <jende> hazard2: *ggg*
[02:25] <sacha_> lol
[02:25] <hazard2> ???
[02:25] <jende> hazard2: if I could, I would...unfortunately I can't make it smaller for davide as it is now
[02:25] <sacha_> dont think problem is on jende's side
[02:26] <jende> davide_: wake up, italian
[02:26] <davide_> we jende
[02:27] <davide_> hi
[02:27] <davide_> why this error?
[02:27] <davide_> maybe the email space is less
[02:27] <jende> davide_: so, do you have another mail addi to where I can sent you the driver?Your provider said, that he had to reject the message/attachment as it is to long
[02:28] <Nexus> I have recently installed Kubuntu on my laptop. My laptop contains several extra buttons on the front of it and the top which control music and other commands. These aren't working which I expected. I was wondering how I could get them working.
[02:28] <davide_> maybe i can give you an hotmail account,i think it accepts
[02:28] <davide_> davideniko@hotmail.it
[02:28] <jende> davide_: check your settings, maybe your not allowed to receive messages which are larger than 5Megs or something
[02:29] <davide_> jende we test with this last email
[02:30] <BonBonTheJon> Nexus: you have to set them up, i'm looking for the tutorial
[02:30] <davide_> i remember that "libero"doesn't give the possibility to receive mails larger than 4 mb
[02:30] <sacha_> hotmail doesnt allow more than 1MB (as of 4 months ago, dont know now)
[02:30] <sacha_> try gmail, i think that's 10MB
[02:30] <apokryphos> closer to 3GB actually =)
[02:30] <sacha_> per message
[02:30] <jende> davide_: or create an account on Yahoo they accept large mails and get back to me
[02:31] <sacha_> received
[02:31] <apokryphos> oh right, yeah
[02:35] <davide_> ok
[02:35] <davide_> give me 2 minutes that i create an account with yahoo
[02:35] <jende> yahoo accepts up to 10MB AFAIK
[02:35] <jende> and gves you 1Gb for free
[02:35] <BonBonTheJon> Nexus: follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12159 but where it says something about gnome disregard, kde's keybinding is in the control panel under international for some reason
[02:35] <sacha_> i like gmail better :P quicker to setup too
[02:35] <Nexus> cheers, bonbon
[02:35] <jende> sacha_: haven't used freemailers for ages, so I Don't knonw which is faster to setup...
[02:36] <davide_> jende well davidenikol@yahoo.it
[02:42] <jende> davide_: it's on the way
[02:42] <davide_> ok,wonderful
[02:42] <davide_> jende sorry but this is a tested driver?
[02:42] <jende> has anyone used turboprint in here?
[02:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> Hello everybody!
[02:42] <jende> davide_: sure is
[02:42] <Acidic32> how do i play .wmv files?
[02:42] <jende> Carbon_Monoxide: hi
[02:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> jende: Hi
[02:42] <jende> !wmv
[02:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <Acidic32> k
[02:42] <jende> Acidic32: refer to these manuals
[02:42] <mikeeagles> Yo jende.
[02:42] <mikeeagles> Guess what?
[02:42] <jende> mikeeagles: howdy
[02:42] <jende> what?
[02:42] <jende> mikeeagles: I need coffee?
[02:42] <jende> mikeeagles: I need smokes?
[02:42] <jende> mikeeagles: come on tell me what happened
[02:42] <mikeeagles> After the reboots, I'm back where I was yesterday. No internet connection and the dialup modem being the only connection device listed.
[02:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> What is the different bewteen typing "sudo apt-get install kde" and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop"?
[02:43] <MDCore> hey all. I can resize my ntfs partition non-destructively from the livecd but not from a kubuntu install. Is there a reason for that ?
[02:43] <jende> Carbon_Monoxide: kubuntu-desktop are neccessary files and packages to get the kubuntu desktop and the KDE is basically all you need to have KDE as your DM
[02:44] <jende> mikeeagles: thats more than just weird
[02:44] <mikeeagles> Something about that dist-updates doesn't like my networking.
[02:44] <jende> mikeeagles: by the way...why did you do a reboot anyway?You don't have to reboot
[02:44] <mikeeagles> It said it needed to reboot following that.
[02:45] <jende> mikeeagles: thats weirs, too
[02:45] <jende> mikeeagles: thats weird, too
[02:45] <mikeeagles> Good thing I did anyway or I would not have known until later that it was screwed.
[02:46] <Carbon_Monoxide> jende: Thanks! I'm a rough image of it now. Does it mean "installing kubuntu-desktop" has acutally installed all "install kde" packages?
[02:46] <mikeeagles> Any idea how to get it to recognize other connection options or should I go back to square one again?
[02:46] <jende> Carbon_Monoxide: nope
[02:47] <jende> mikeeagles: just trying to get you back to live, but give me few secs to think of a nice and smooth way, okay
[02:47] <mikeeagles> I'm not becoming a fan of this op sys.
[02:48] <jende> mikeeagles: there must be something weird going on with your wlan card, it was wlan wasn't it
[02:48] <mikeeagles> i'll be away from the computer for 10-15 minutes. Yes.
[02:49] <davide_> sorry jende but you're just uploading?
[02:49] <gakko> KUBUNTU
[02:49] <mikeeagles> But why when you install the opsys does it offer both options to connect but after that dist-upgrade it only has dialup modem option?
[02:50] <mikeeagles> Something in that upgrade wipes out the wlan settings, drivers, etc.
[02:51] <Carbon_Monoxide> jende: I just thought "apt-get install kde" is the subset of "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:51] <Windwalker> Help please. Kubuntu did not let me use reiserfs as a default filesystem. I setup everything fine with cfdisk. Now the installer want to reformat them with ext3. How can I force it to use reiserfs???Help plz
[02:52] <Windwalker> It says "Filesystems used by system /,/boot, /usr /var ...should be reformattes = understand replaced with ext3 :(((((
[02:52] <jende> davide_: it should be there now
[02:52] <Windwalker> Can I trick it somehow???
[02:52] <davide_> now i test
[02:53] <jende> mikeeagles: still there?
[02:53] <jende> mikeeagles: open a console and tell me what you get with: sudo iwconfig
[02:55] <jende> mikeeagles: hello???
[02:55] <Windwalker>  Help please. Kubuntu did not let me use reiserfs as a default filesystem. I setup everything fine with cfdisk. Now the installer want to reformat them with ext3. How can I force it to use reiserfs???Kubuntu 6.10 latest
[02:55] <jende> Windwalker: I guess you can't. Anyway reiserfs isn't as good as ext3
[02:56] <Windwalker> :)
[02:56] <Windwalker> good point
[02:57] <Windwalker> Anybody using Kubuntu 6.10 with reiserfs???
[02:57] <mikeeagles> Okay.
[02:57] <jende> mikeeagles: now tell me what you get if you do on a console a sudo iwconfig
[02:58] <mikeeagles> No wireless extensions.
[02:58] <eth0> can anyone help me with xawtv
[02:58] <eth0> ?
[02:58] <mikeeagles> lo no wireless extensions sit0 no wireless extensions.
[02:59] <pansy> hi folks
[03:00] <davide_> jende nothing has arrived
[03:00] <jende> mikeeagles: I'm actually working on your pprob is a friend, so answers will come a bit slower than usual
[03:00] <Windwalker> Anybody using Kubuntu 6.10 with reiserfs???
[03:00] <davide_> eheheheh i'm lucky like always?
[03:01] <mikeeagles> I can just reinstall and not do the dist- upgrade.
[03:02] <jende> mikeeagles: nope
[03:02] <jende> mikeeagles: wanna know whats happening, eventhough we'll get you back to Live
[03:03] <fjsanchez> Hi
[03:03] <jende> mikeeagles: the wlan card was an internal one, right? If so, pastebin the output of sudo lspci
[03:05] <mikeeagles> Aw man. I did that last night and it took me over a half hour to type all that stuff. I don't have an internet connection on that machine so I can't copy and paste it.
[03:06] <jende> mikeeagles: you posted last nite, true.I'll find it in the archive
[03:06] <mikeeagles> Cool.
[03:08] <Carbon_Monoxide> The KDE 3.5.5 is not on dapper's repo?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> howdy
[03:11] <Cadmo> e aee pessoal
[03:11] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:12] <jende> mikeeagles: do this now: sudo pppoeconf
[03:12] <Cadmo> algum brasileiro ai??
[03:12] <jende> mikeeagles: will that find your wlan card?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> !pt
[03:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:12] <jende> davide_: did the file arrive?
[03:13] <jende> BluesKaj: howdy
[03:13] <BluesKaj> hiya jende
[03:14] <jende> Carbon_Monoxide: kde 3.5.5 will be launched with edgy on 26/10
[03:14] <davide_> jende not yet
[03:14] <BluesKaj> kde 3.5.5 is available for upgrade
[03:15] <BluesKaj> from older versions
[03:15] <Carbon_Monoxide> jende: how about dapper?
[03:15] <mikeeagles> No ethernet card found. Run modconf When modconf run it says command not found.
[03:16] <jende> mikeeagles: to run modconf you have to tell modconf which module you want to configure
[03:16] <jende> mikeeagles: eventhough, you have to run it as rot <sudo>
[03:17] <mikeeagles> What module is it?
[03:17] <Carbon_Monoxide> BluesKaj: hela! I've read the news on KDE. KDE 3.5.5 is available for upgrade, but there is no package on dapper's repo yet?
[03:18] <BluesKaj> I'm using it as we speak in dapper
[03:18] <BluesKaj> gotta find the right
[03:18] <BluesKaj> repos
[03:18] <apokryphos> Carbon_Monoxide: kubuntu.org
[03:19] <Carbon_Monoxide> BlueKaj: ahhh! did you grab it from main repo?
[03:19] <ubuntu> hi from all
[03:19] <jende> davide_:
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[03:19] <jende> 4.79.181.135 failed after I sent the message.
[03:19] <jende> Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.it account (davideniko@yahoo.it)
[03:19] <apokryphos> hello
[03:19] <Carbon_Monoxide> apokryphos: thank you!  :)
[03:19] <BluesKaj> sorry Carbon_Monoxide, i don't remember...I'm old and i keep changing my sources list to keep it uncluttered
[03:20] <BluesKaj> hey apokryphos , how's things
[03:21] <davide_> jende it's the wrong address: it's davidenikol@yahoo.it
[03:21] <davide_> with the "l"after the o
[03:21] <davide_> "l"like life
[03:21] <davide_> ;(
[03:22] <apokryphos> BluesKaj: hi, things are good, yeah =)
[03:24] <jende> cpk2: are you there?
[03:24] <jende> fdoving: ping!
[03:25] <fdoving> jende: ack.
[03:25] <jende> fdoving: hi!Hope you're well...
[03:26] <jende> fdoving: do you know if on the dapper Install CD is modconf?
[03:26] <fdoving> I am.
[03:27] <fdoving> jende: what do you mean  'is modconf? ' contains the 'modconf' program?
[03:28] <Carbon_Monoxide> BluesKaj: you find your KDE 3.5.5 running stable?
[03:29] <jende> fdoving: I mean due to the fact that mikeeagles has lost his Wlan stuff and pppoeconf can't find a card a solution would be to run modconf, but it needs to be installed with apt. As he has no connection to the web with that machine it would be just awesome if modconf could installed with the Install CD
[03:30] <BluesKaj> yes Carbon_Monoxide...very stable ,no probs
[03:30] <fdoving> jende: does he have the live-installer-cd or the alternate cd?
[03:30] <jende> fdoving: the live installer, AFAIK
[03:30] <Carbon_Monoxide> BluesKaj: Thanks old dude! I almost finished the update  :)
[03:31] <BluesKaj> cool Carbon_Monoxide, glad to hear it
[03:31] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:32] <jende> mikeeagles: have you got the Live Installer CD downloaded or the Alternate?
[03:32] <fdoving> jende: doesn't look like modconf is included.
[03:33] <Carbon_Monoxide> done it! and gotta reboot and see the new KDE
[03:33] <jende> fdoving: have you got an idea?
[03:33] <fdoving> mikeeagles: didn't you have a acx 100 wlan?
[03:33] <jende> fdoving: he has that
[03:33] <jende> fdoving: lspci said it
[03:34] <fdoving> jende: then the modulename is 'acx_pci' if i recall correctly.
[03:34] <mikeeagles> I've got the Live CD but get lots of I/o errors when trying to install from that so I've been installing from A DVD rom From Linux format LXF83
[03:34] <fdoving> he probably need some firmware though.
[03:34] <mikeeagles> I have a
[03:35] <mikeeagles> US Robotics 22mbps
[03:35] <mikeeagles> pci
[03:35] <jende> mikeeagles: try this sudo modprobe acx_pci
[03:36] <jende> mikeeagles: the stuff you posted yesterday tells different. US Robotics is just the Brand, the internals are the most important thing and hat says
[03:36] <davide_> jende (i know i disturb) but i want to know if you're resending the file in the correct mail.Tnx
[03:36] <jende> that you have TI Texas Instrument ACX100 WLAN 22mbps card
[03:36] <mikeeagles> Fatal: mod ule acx_pci not found.
[03:36] <jende> mikeeagles: try this sudo modprobe acx_100
[03:37] <mikeeagles> That's what it says. TI acx100
[03:37] <jende> davide_: got sent and should be....there now
[03:37] <fdoving> jende: i think it's 'acx' only.
[03:37] <Carbon_Monoxide> hela BluesKaj! I'm back!
[03:37] <jende> mikeeagles: was TI acx 100 the ouput of modprobe acx_100
[03:38] <jende> mikeeagles: if not try sudo modprobe acx
[03:38] <Carbon_Monoxide> The new KDE has installed a whole bunches of sxxx onto it.
[03:38] <mikeeagles> Fatal: mod ule acx__100 not found
[03:38] <jende> mikeeagles: if not try sudo modprobe acx
[03:38] <Carbon_Monoxide> oh my god
[03:39] <mikeeagles> Just comes back to the prompt:
[03:40] <fdoving> mikeeagles: that means success.
[03:40] <mluser-work> Does anyone know if there is a .deb package for flash 9 available for ubuntu/kubuntu yet?
[03:40] <mikeeagles> If you say so.
[03:43] <jende> mluser-work: yep there is one
[03:43] <jende> mikeeagles: great, so the module got loaded
[03:44] <mikeeagles> If you say so.
[03:45] <jende> mikeeagles: now we should try a sudo ifconfig
[03:46] <jende> mikeeagles: now we should try a sudo iwconfig
[03:47] <jende> davide_: it came back again
[03:47] <mikeeagles> Both?
[03:48] <jende> mikeeagles: give iwconfig a gou
[03:48] <jende> mikeeagles: give iwconfig a go
[03:48] <davide_> jende i don't know why
[03:48] <davide_> if you write the correct address
[03:48] <mikeeagles> No wireless extensions
[03:48] <jende> davide_: I'll check
[03:48] <jende> mikeeagles: now try ifconfig
[03:48] <davide_> but it's not possible to send it via Irc?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> dcc?
[03:49] <jende> davide_: my fault...now it should bealright
[03:50] <jende> mikeeagles: what tells you ifconfig
[03:50] <jende> mikeeagles: what tells you ifconfig?
[03:51] <davide_> ah ok
[03:51] <davide_> i'll wait
[03:51] <hazard2> *test*
[03:52] <jende> mikeeagles: ???
[03:54] <BluesKaj> 
[03:54] <mikeeagles> Ifconfig gives me the following: Link encap: Local Loopback inet address:127.0.0.1 Mask 255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP Loopback Running MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0overruns:0frame:0 TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0carrier:0 collisions:0 txquequelen:0 RX bytes:672 (672.0 b) TX bytes: 672 (672.0 b)
[03:55] <jende> mikeeagles: now try sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.111
[03:56] <days44> hi
[03:56] <jende> days44: hi
[04:00] <jende> mikeeagles: hope it works
[04:00] <hazard2> how can I configure the automoutner installed by default with kubuntu?
[04:03] <fdoving> hazard2: go to settings:/Peripherals/media in konqueror.
[04:03] <hazard2> huh?
[04:04] <fdoving> hazard2: open konqoeror, in the address field, type: 'settings:/Peripherals/media' and press enter.
[04:04] <hazard2> hmmm...
[04:04] <fdoving> hazard2: you can also go to 'settings:/' and browse from there if you want to.
[04:05] <hazard2> that's not quite what I need...
[04:05] <fdoving> what do you need then?
[04:05] <hazard2> well
[04:05] <hazard2> when I plug in say a USB key
[04:05] <hazard2> it makes the icon on the desktop-
[04:05] <hazard2> then when I open it, it can't mount it.
[04:05] <hazard2> I've got autofs installed, and it does it fine.
[04:05] <hazard2> I was hoping I could reconfigure whatever it is that makes the icons to just point things to the configured autofs mount points.
[04:06] <hazard2> (since they work better)
[04:07] <fdoving> don't know where you can do that.
[04:07] <hazard2> thanks for tryin though
[04:10] <jende> huuh...mikeeagles gone...
[04:11] <jende> davide_: its there isn't it
[04:11] <knubbe> is it possible to upgrade to efty or do i have to do a clean install?
[04:11] <davide_> jende: it's arrived
[04:11] <tomaz> it's possible to upgrade
[04:11] <Dr_willis> edgy :)
[04:11] <tomaz> but a clean install is safer
[04:11] <davide_> now i'm testing the setup
[04:11] <Dr_willis> I advise clean installs also.
[04:11] <knubbe> hah, i meant edgy :)
[04:12] <jende> davide_: good
[04:12] <tomaz> ppl, how can i manage the autostart process on the edgy?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> which autostart process?
[04:13] <knubbe> tomaz: do i need the cd or can i upgrade via apt somehow?
[04:13] <sacha_> i still have no desktop icons, alt+f2 not working and no right click menu for desktop ::(
[04:13] <jende> knubbe: you can easily upgrade via apt
[04:13] <knubbe> Dr_willis: id rather not loose my home-dir.
[04:13] <tomaz> you can update via apt
[04:14] <tomaz> you just need to add the edgy repositories
[04:14] <Dr_willis> knubbe,  thats why i put /home on its own partition.
[04:14] <tomaz> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Upgrades can cause issues..
[04:14] <tomaz> yeh, *never* put your home directorie on the same partition that  / is
[04:14] <jende> knubbe: sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy /g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <mikeeagles> Watch that apt-get dist-upgrade, it wipes me out everytime.
[04:14] <knubbe> oh well. too late for that now. its already in /
[04:15] <crrj> it is possible to move it to another partition
[04:15] <jende> knubbe: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:15] <Dr_willis> of course ive had issues with upgrading and keeping the gnome/kde settings.. often they confuse the newer versions of gnome/kde - oddly
[04:15] <jende> mikeeagles: you're with dapper
[04:15] <mikeeagles> Yea, I've been told I'm pretty Dapper. LOL
[04:16] <jende> mikeeagles: so, what did you get as a result?
[04:16] <knubbe> crrj: is that easy?
[04:16] <jende> knubbe: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:16] <mikeeagles> I posted it in the channel.
[04:16] <jende> mikeeagles: haven't seen it, sorry
[04:17] <tomaz> ppl, how can i configure the boot process of the Edgy Eft?
[04:17] <davide_> jende bad news
[04:17] <davide_> i did the setup
[04:17] <crrj> knubbe, fairly straight forward, take a look at this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[04:17] <davide_> all was ok
[04:17] <mikeeagles> No such device
[04:17] <ubuntu__> awesome
[04:17] <davide_> i start installing my printer
[04:17] <ubuntu__> kunbuntu > mandriva
[04:17] <davide_> every config i do
[04:17] <crrj> It's been a while since I've moved directories to new partitions / drives, but it wasn't difficult.
[04:17] <davide_> my print doesn't go!!!
[04:17] <Dr_willis> tomaz,  the services are all started using the SysV init system. theres several sysv config tools out.
[04:17] <knubbe> crrj: thanks
[04:17] <sacha_> can anyone help me? no desktop icons, no alt+f2, no right click menu, it uses the wallpaper from login (not the normal wallpaper) -- everything else works fine
[04:17] <tomaz> the edgy is sysv?
[04:18] <tomaz> i thougth it was upstgart
[04:18] <fdoving> tomaz: kmenu -> system settings -> adavanced [tab]  -> system settings.
[04:18] <tomaz> upstart *
[04:18] <jende> mikeeagles: do this now: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[04:18] <jende> davide_: maybe you've done something wrong
[04:19] <davide_> i don't know what wrong i did
[04:19] <jende> davide_: I can't tell from here and I can't install turborint on here either
[04:19] <davide_> i think everythink i've done is correct
[04:19] <fdoving> tomaz: it is, but it is still compatible with the sysv init way, for now.
[04:19] <jende> can someone help davide with turboprint?
[04:20] <davide_> but i installed it
[04:20] <davide_> but every port i put
[04:20] <davide_> doesn't turn on my printer
[04:20] <Dr_willis> !edgy
[04:20] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:21] <Dr_willis> i wonder if we are going to have to splut the channels into a #ubuntu-lts and #ubuntu-edgy :)
[04:21] <sacha_> ok, so why would those things happen? im thinking whatever process handles the desktop is frozen
[04:21] <sacha_> anyone know which process that is?
[04:21] <jende> whom of you has used turborprint?
[04:22] <tomaz> ahh
[04:22] <tomaz> nice =)
[04:22] <tomaz> i managed, tanks =)
[04:22] <jende> sacha_: what tells you 'top'?
[04:22] <mikeeagles> interfaces - kate shows different interfaces with one being auto wlan and it has the name of my network and the wireless key listed. Guess that shows it exists.
[04:22] <sacha_> i didnt see anything interesting there
[04:23] <sacha_> most cpu used up is from arts (playing music?)
[04:23] <jende> mikeeagles: so, its not wlan0 its just wlan?
[04:23] <sacha_> 1%
[04:23] <mikeeagles> auto wlan0
[04:23] <seele> i did a system upgrade and my wireless device disappeared.. any ideas what to try first?
[04:23] <sacha_> then X with 0.3% cpu and top with 0.3% cpu, all the rest with 0
[04:23] <sacha_> similar with memory
[04:24] <knubbe> the partitioning-thing seems too complicated. i dont have enough disk-space to do such thing. ill upgrade instead of clean install.
[04:24] <mikeeagles> Seele: Same here. Getting help right now.
[04:24] <seele> mikeeagles: what kind of card to you have?
[04:24] <mikeeagles> US Robotics
[04:24] <jende> mikeeagles: ifup wlan0
[04:24] <seele> hum
[04:24] <jende> seele: it has an acx_100 chipset
[04:24] <mikeeagles> Yea.
[04:25] <jende> mikeeagles: sudo ifup wlan0
[04:27] <mikeeagles> After that last command you gave console says kbuildsycoa running... ScimInputContextPlugin()
[04:27] <knubbe> !schedule
[04:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:27] <mikeeagles> sorry coca
[04:30] <jende> mikeeagles: huh...???hmmm...
[04:30] <mikeeagles> I brought up another console. It says failed Set failed on Wlan0. Failed to bring up wlan0
[04:30] <jende> mikeeagles: kdesu kate /etc/modules
[04:31] <davide> jende
[04:31] <davide> well
[04:31] <davide> good news
[04:31] <jende> mikeeagles: and see if this file has the entry *acx* if not, please edit in there acx. Then save the file and reboot
[04:31] <jende> davide: the printer works?
[04:32] <davide> i moved some options and the printer has printed the test page of turboprint
[04:32] <davide> Very good thing!!!
[04:32] <jende> davide: yep, that's good news
[04:32] <davide> eheheeh yes
[04:32] <davide> but now
[04:32] <davide> i tried to print a word file
[04:32] <davide> but
[04:32] <davide> nothing
[04:33] <mikeeagles> It has lp, mouse
[04:33] <jende> mikeeagles: okay add acx to it; save the file and make a reboot
[04:33] <mikeeagles> Sorry lp, psmouse
[04:33] <ubuntu__> What the ??? Windows C: prim partition is 65GB, but kunbuntu install is seeing 30GB NTFS + 35GB free space. WTF??
[04:34] <jende> davide: is the new printer your default printer? have you made that?
[04:35] <davide> yes i did that
[04:35] <davide> but nothing
[04:35] <davide> i'm trying to reinstall
[04:36] <Dr_willis> ubuntu__,  freespace as in the windows drive is only half full?
[04:36] <jende> davide: if you have the print-dialog open is the printer which comes up the one you installed with turboprint? is in that box another one?
[04:36] <mikeeagles> Rebooted. What next?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> vs. Unallocated drive space  - as in C: is only a 32 gb partition.
[04:37] <jende> mikeeagles: sudo ifconfig
[04:37] <davide> jende when i open the printer config,i find the turboprinter printer config
[04:37] <davide> but it doesn't function
[04:37] <davide> now i'm doing other tests
[04:37] <mikeeagles> Same info as before.
[04:38] <jende> mikeeagles: sudo lsmod
[04:38] <jende> is the acx module loaded?
[04:39] <mikeeagles> IT shows acx in the usbcore line
[04:39] <craftycorner> hello
[04:40] <jende> mikeeagles: okay
[04:40] <davide> jende
[04:40] <davide> so
[04:41] <davide> i was able to let the printing starting
[04:41] <davide> GOOD
[04:41] <jende> davide: yeah, well done
[04:41] <Igor_V2> hi...anybody knows a website to get subtitles? :T
[04:41] <davide> but when it starts, it prints at the end the logo of "turboprint purchase"
[04:42] <craftycorner> I updated my sources.list.  what's the command for getting my mp3's going?
[04:42] <jende> craftycorner: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:43] <craftycorner> thanks
[04:43] <jende> mikeeagles: so, can you pastebin just the bit which is in /etc/network/interaces re the Wlan entry, if I'm not asking foor toooo much *g*
[04:44] <craftycorner> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[04:44] <craftycorner> jende, can we talk private?
[04:45] <jende> craftycorner: just pastebin your sources.list
[04:45] <SHRIKEE> hi all
[04:45] <jende> !paste
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:45] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:45] <SHRIKEE> *question* ^^
[04:45] <Jucato> lol
[04:46] <jende> Jucato: howdy, you're back
[04:46] <mikeeagles> And where do I find this /etc/network/intefaces?
[04:47] <ubuntu_> !list
[04:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:47] <jende_> mikeeagles: sorry, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[04:47] <SHRIKEE> anyone know where i can make things like  work?
[04:49] <jende_> Jucato: where have you been?
[04:49] <SHRIKEE> ...
[04:49] <Jucato> 1) sleeping, 2) played for a while
[04:49] <Jucato> (notice there was no "dinner" in between)
[04:50] <jende_> Jucato: and no dinner???poor bugger..hehehe
[04:50] <craftycorner>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[04:50] <SHRIKEE> anyone know where i can make things like  work?
[04:50] <Jucato> jende_: physically hungry, but no appetite to eat anything...
[04:51] <jende_> Jucato: I know that feeling just way to good
[04:52] <davide> jende sorry
[04:52] <jende_> davide: yep...
[04:52] <davide> there is a way to take the driver of turboprinter
[04:52] <Jucato> ...
[04:52] <davide> and using them to start a new configuration
[04:52] <jende_> davide: what do you mean?
[04:52] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27480/ was my result
[04:53] <davide> i mean that
[04:53] <davide> this turboprint makes operate my printer
[04:53] <davide> but
[04:53] <jende_> craftycorner: I don't need the result, I need the sources.list
[04:53] <jende_> craftycorner: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <davide> at the end of the printing it shows a message "This is Turboprint...to print without this logo purchase a license.."
[04:54] <davide> now
[04:54] <davide> if i discover where turboprint writes drivers
[04:54] <davide> i can use those drivers
[04:54] <davide> for another configuration
[04:54] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27481/
[04:54] <jende_> davide: well, I'd say if you need the printer I would simply purchase the Linux Version which isn't expensive anyway
[04:55] <jende_> craftycorner: your sources.list is wrong
[04:55] <davide> but paying is the only way?
[04:55] <craftycorner> how do I get it right
[04:55] <jende_> craftycorner: I'll correct it and you can modify it with kate, give me a minute to modify it
[04:56] <davide> with the money i have to spend,i can buy another printer
[04:56] <craftycorner> thank you
[04:56] <mikeeagles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27482/
[04:56] <craftycorner> davide, you can do a windows/linux dual boot if you can't afford a 2nd printer and have windows laying about
[04:57] <davide> yes
[04:57] <davide> it's a solution
[04:57] <craftycorner> what i had to do
[04:57] <davide> but i wanted to delete winzoz
[04:57] <davide> and to let operative my Ubuntu
[04:57] <craftycorner> so did i, but my hardwaer wouldn't play ball
[04:57] <davide> but i think it's not possible now
[04:57] <jende_> craftycorner: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27483/
[04:57] <davide> jende
[04:57] <SHRIKEE> anyone know where i can make things like  work??
[04:58] <jende_> davide: you can do that online
[04:58] <davide> thank you for everything
[04:58] <craftycorner> np
[04:58] <davide> you're a friend!
[04:58] <jende_> davide: go to www.turboprint.info
[04:58] <jende_> davide: I'm just trying to help a bit
[04:58] <jende_> craftycorner: see the difference?
[04:59] <craftycorner> checking
[04:59] <jende_> davide: simply purchase your version online and you can get rid of windoof
[04:59] <DjDarkman> hy ,are the repository`s down?
[04:59] <DjDarkman> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qt4-x11/qt4-dev-tools_4.2.0-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb  404 Not Found
[04:59] <davide> eh it's the only way
[04:59] <davide> but i want to waste other time
[04:59] <craftycorner> yea, it's only something k!
[04:59] <davide> to try to solve without paying
[05:00] <davide> ;)
[05:00] <knubbe> not good. i get alot of errors while upgrading dapper->edgy
[05:00] <craftycorner> how do i get owner as root?
[05:00] <craftycorner> says owner is other
[05:00] <jende_> Jucato: can you have a look at mikeeagles posting @ pastebin
[05:01] <jende_> Jucato: its the 27483
[05:01] <jende_> Jucato: its the 27482
[05:01] <craftycorner> jende, i'll get a pic of the folder in question
[05:01] <Jucato> jende_: sorry, I'm not familiar with networking :(
[05:01] <DjDarkman> is something wrong with the repositorys or what?
[05:02] <jende_> craftycorner: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <jende_> craftycorner: the password you'll be asked for is the one you have configured for sudo
[05:02] <pattieja> hello
[05:03] <craftycorner> right
[05:03] <jende_> fdoving: may I ask you to have a look at mikeeagles posting @ pastebin? Need to pick up quickly something, but wont leave Mike aone
[05:03] <pattieja> is anyone using Kubuntu on Intel iMac?
[05:03] <craftycorner> ok, now what
[05:04] <jende_> craftycorner: have you modified it as I have pasted it?
[05:04] <craftycorner> yes
[05:05] <craftycorner> pasted your modified version to it and saved
[05:05] <fdoving> jende_: sure, url?
[05:05] <jende_> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27482/
[05:05] <jende_> fdoving: thanks a lot
[05:06] <jende_> craftycorner: in a console sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:06] <jende_> brb
[05:06] <pattieja> I am specifically having issues with switching users from the KDE menu (either from an already logged in user's account or from the KDM login screen) and switching virtual displays.  Whenever I attempt Ctrl-Alt-F<anything>, KDM seems to start a new login session
[05:06] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27489/
[05:08] <craftycorner> now i can't launch kate at all
[05:08] <jende_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27491/
[05:08] <jende_> bfn
[05:09] <BluesKaj> hey jende_, I had my network (windows) printer up and printing fine but I had to re install it . It's connected to a USB hub on my windows pc ...the test page sets up to print but then stops and freezes as if it ran out of info or something.
[05:09] <fdoving> jende_:  "i face wlan inet dhcp" is wrong should be "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" - and the 'i face' for all the other interfaces is also wrong, and should be replaced by 'iface'
[05:10] <fdoving> jende_: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27492/
[05:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[05:10] <BluesKaj> jende_:  I'm trying to print form my Kubuntu machine to the windows printer.
[05:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I am having a few problems with Edgy...
[05:11] <mikeeagles> Sorry there is no space between them. I screwed that up. It's iface.
[05:11] <BluesKaj> Jucato: perhaps you have experience with this ?
[05:11] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I have no printer...
[05:12] <BluesKaj> bummer
[05:12] <fdoving> mikeeagles: ok, then just change wlan to wlan0 on line 17. (of the paste)
[05:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Let's start with something simple: When KDE loads, exactly at the same time as the third screenshot here: http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution_sm=Kubuntu%206.10%20RC
[05:12] <MilhousePunkRock> The screen goes all white except the icons for a moment
[05:12] <MilhousePunkRock> After that KDE is there
[05:12] <chx> hi. if I have /boot on one disk and / on another , can I umount & remove /boot after booting?
[05:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone have the same issue or even a solution?
[05:13] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: i suspect that has something to do with RANDR.
[05:13] <mikeeagles> Same thing with the wlan. It is wlan0.
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> That's a beginning, fdoving...
[05:13] <fdoving> mikeeagles: ok, then you should be all good afaik.
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Anything I can do about it?
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey TheGateKeeper!
[05:13] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock: Hiya
[05:14] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: not sure. checking..
[05:14] <craftycorner> in my root folder, there is a file.  the fact I can't open it in kate to look at it, should i worry?
[05:14] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: you could try asking also in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <craftycorner> wtf did I do?
[05:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Good idea, Jucato
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: Run Commond... kdesu kate <filepath>
[05:15] <fdoving> craftycorner: what's the filename?
[05:15] <jende_> fdoving: I'm back
[05:15] <mikeeagles> What if I uninstall the card, reboot, shut down then reinstall. Will that do anything to correct the problem?
[05:15] <craftycorner> sources.list
[05:15] <sacha_> hehe
[05:16] <jende_> mikeeagles: nope, I would say
[05:16] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: Run Commond... kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[05:16] <craftycorner> got the bugger open, now I am looking at it.
[05:16] <mikeeagles> Then I should just reinstall the whole program and forget doing a dist-upgrade.
[05:16] <fdoving> mikeeagles: follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111
[05:17] <pointwood> hi, trying to upgrade to edgy rc but it fails with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27494/
[05:17] <craftycorner> I will post what it looks like
[05:17] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27495/
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: what's the problem?
[05:17] <craftycorner> that's in the root directory
[05:17] <craftycorner> making sure i don't got one
[05:18] <craftycorner> cuz my mp3's won't play
[05:18] <craftycorner> nor will my mp4's or other non-free codecs
[05:19] <craftycorner> and it's too snug in this drive for noncompressed files
[05:19] <mikeeagles> Thanks for the help. I don't see how that will help since it worked perfectly until I did dist-upgrade but I'll look at it.
[05:19] <MilhousePunkRock> pointwood: Does it really fail or does it just give the errors? perl and the locales were a little troublesome when I upgraded to edgy
[05:19] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: I use amarok using xine engine & libxine-extracodecs
[05:19] <pointwood> MilhousePunkRock: check last lines
[05:19] <craftycorner> amorok won't play the codecs, how do i get it to do so?
[05:19] <fdoving> mikeeagles: i suggest reading through it before doing anything, there are some tips & tricks at the bottom iirc.
[05:20] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: what have you installed?
[05:20] <pointwood> MilhousePunkRock: it seems to be a problem with x11
[05:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia > craftycorner
[05:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Did you try to update that manually, pointwood?
[05:20] <jende_> mikeeagles: It'll help cause it seems to be that the acx_xxx driver in Dapper is buggy
[05:20] <pointwood> nope
[05:21] <jende_> mikeeagles: If only I would have found that site, a big thanks to fdoving
[05:21] <jende_> fdoving: thank you, what a nice Wiki
[05:21] <MilhousePunkRock> pointwood: I doubt anyone upgraded without errors in just one turn... ;-)
[05:21] <jende_> fdoving: that explains a lot, though
[05:21] <craftycorner> do I got everyting in my sources.list for all this?
[05:22] <craftycorner> so I can use my synaptic to grab packages?
[05:22] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: you haven't told me what you have already instaled
[05:22] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[05:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:22] <jende_> craftycorner: your sources is wrong!
[05:23] <pointwood> MilhousePunkRock: that might be true and I don't consider that to be positive ;)
[05:23] <craftycorner> ?
[05:23] <hyper> abattoir?
[05:23] <jende_> craftycorner: you have copied simply all the lines of pastebin even within the numbers
[05:23] <craftycorner> I don't understand
[05:23] <MilhousePunkRock> pointwood: Well, I was really looking forward to edgy due to some trouble with my GFX chip and the old kernel, but it's no better now
[05:23] <jende_> craftycorner: and the numbers are the problem
[05:24] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir is eating, will be back in about 20 minutes
[05:24] <craftycorner> get rid of the numbers?
[05:24] <mikeeagles> That site deals with an acx111 based device and I don't get the expected output when I run the check.
[05:24] <jende_> craftycorner: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <craftycorner> still open
[05:24] <pointwood> MilhousePunkRock: dpkg -i <package> seems to give me the same error
[05:24] <pointwood> including the perl stuff
[05:24] <jende_> craftycorner: what you'll see is that each line begins with a number starting with"1"
[05:25] <jende_> craftycorner: am I right?
[05:25] <MilhousePunkRock> did you try dpkg-reconfigure -a
[05:25] <craftycorner> right
[05:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I had to do that after a failed upgrade
[05:25] <craftycorner> get rid of those?
[05:25] <jende_> craftycorner: delete them
[05:25] <craftycorner> ok
[05:26] <jende_> craftycorner: safe the file, close kate
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> pointwood: You could try apt-get -upgrade xwhatever -f
[05:27] <pointwood> MilhousePunkRock: trying the reconfigure one now - the -f doesn't change anything
[05:27] <craftycorner> ok, saving file, closing kate
[05:27] <jende_> open a console
[05:27] <craftycorner> open
[05:27] <MilhousePunkRock> tbh, I am anything else but an expert, I only know that steered around the errors for me, pointwood
[05:27] <craftycorner> konsol open
[05:27] <jende_> craftycorner: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:28] <Jucato> (sudo apt-get update first if he modified anything in sources.list)
[05:28] <jende_> Jucato: right
[05:28] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27496/
[05:29] <jende_> craftycorner: you forgot the update, as said earlier
[05:29] <jende_> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update
[05:29] <craftycorner> tell me how
[05:29] <craftycorner> got game now
[05:30] <craftycorner> now we do the codecs,
[05:30] <craftycorner> same probs
[05:30] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[05:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource < craftycorner
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource < craftycorner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource > craftycorner
[05:31] <MilhousePunkRock> This way... :-D
[05:31] <Jucato> hm...
[05:31] <mikeeagles> Thanks, jende. Take care.
[05:32] <Jucato> this line is my biggest concern: "Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or. is only available from another source"
[05:32] <jende_> mikeeagles: I'm quite sure that once you have followed the Wiki you'll be more than just fine
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[05:32] <jende_> mikeeagles: even with updates & upgrades
[05:32] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:33] <MilhousePunkRock> how do I look up which version of a package I have installed again?
[05:33] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: multiverse is enabled
[05:33] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: apt-cache policy <package>
[05:33] <Hawkwind> MilhousePunkRock: dpkg -l package
[05:33] <craftycorner> how do I add these to my sources.list?
[05:33] <jende_> craftycorner: they are already in there
[05:33] <Jucato> er.. yeah that too
[05:33] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind
[05:33] <mikeeagles> I'm not wired for this. Thanks anyway.
[05:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Morning
[05:34] <Jucato> evening! :)
[05:34] <jende_> mikeeagles: you're in the states right?
[05:34] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato:  pop this into konqueror ---> apt:/show?libxine-extracodecs
[05:34] <mikeeagles> Right.
[05:34] <Jucato> Hawkwind: do you think it might be a connection problem?
[05:34] <jende_> mikeeagles: in NYC?
[05:34] <craftycorner> ok, so I um can play the mp3's?
[05:34] <Jucato> craftycorner's problem
[05:34] <mikeeagles> PA
[05:34] <TheGateKeeper> hiya Hawkwind
[05:34] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: err.. why me?
[05:34] <jende_> mikeeagles: PA=Philadelphia?
[05:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I'd really like to see his sources.list put into http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[05:35] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: Hey there
[05:35] <mikeeagles> I'm from Philly but I live in Williamsport.
[05:35] <jende_> mikeeagles: I see, just a sec
[05:35] <Jucato> Hawkwind: jende_ says the sources.list is ok. but he's getting this error message:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27496/
[05:35] <grayeul> I'm having a problem with EdgyBeta on Dell Precision M65... anyone else seen this?
[05:35] <mikeeagles> From big city to small town. No resources around here.
[05:35] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: 'this line is my biggest concern' etc etc
[05:36] <jende_> mikeeagles: have a look http://www.phillylinux.org/
[05:36] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: oh I think he already has the correct repos (multiverse) according to jende_
[05:36] <jende_> mikeeagles: a Linux Group has helped me a lot, when I started
[05:36] <craftycorner> grabbing updates
[05:36] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Can you please paste your entire sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us  for all of us to see
[05:37] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: I thought you had a concern?
[05:37] <jende_> mikeeagles: is that an idea?
[05:37] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: that concern was regarding craftycorner's problem
[05:37] <yokobr> anyone there hava an asus mobo??
[05:37] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: ahh
[05:37] <Hawkwind> yokobr: I do.  I have the ASUS P4P800E-Deluxe
[05:37] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: sorry for the confusion. lots of traffic today
[05:37] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: np :-)
[05:38] <craftycorner> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/170
[05:38] <mikeeagles> Thanks. I'm usually only in Philly on weekends to visit my mom. Their meetings are during the week.
[05:38] <grayeul> Dell M65?  Hanging up when trying to 'install' after copying files.....
[05:38] <yokobr> i have a k8vse-deluxe.....i trying to get an IDE Emulation....becauso some systems doesnt see my sata hd.....how can i do that?!
[05:38] <Jucato> Hawkwind: craftycorner> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/170
[05:38] <jende_> mikeeagles: so during the week you are where?
[05:39] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: That definitely looks correct
[05:39] <craftycorner> thank you jende for decootifying my computer
[05:39] <craftycorner> I am learning a lot
[05:39] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Have you done sudo apt-get update at all since adding the new repos ?
[05:39] <mikeeagles> I appreciate all your help. I'm in Williamsport, 3 hours away. I get to Philly about once a month.
[05:39] <craftycorner> I jsut did a major grab of updates
[05:39] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: If it's done, then try the sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <mikeeagles> I'll try to reinstall it and skip the dist update and see what I can learn from there.
[05:40] <jende_> mikeeagles: If I'd be you I would get with them in contact to see whether there is a LUG nearby Williamsport
[05:40] <craftycorner> E: Invalid operation updatesudo
[05:41] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: What did you type ?
[05:41] <Jucato> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update
[05:41] <mikeeagles> I checked and Harisburg area is the closest.
[05:41] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:41] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Copy and paste that exactly as I typed it
[05:41] <craftycorner> no, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:41] <craftycorner> and got that wierd reply
[05:42] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Then you typed something incorrectly
[05:42] <craftycorner> I did cut and paste!  I didn't type
[05:42] <jende_> mikeeagles: maybe one of there members is close to Williamsport?
[05:42] <mikeeagles> I'll check.
[05:42] <jende_> mikeeagles: sounds good!
[05:42] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27499/
[05:43] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I find out at what date a file was created?
[05:43] <yokobr> i have a k8vse-deluxe.....i trying to get an IDE Emulation....becauso some systems doesnt see my sata hd.....how can i do that?!
[05:43] <jende_> craftycorner: you're jokin, aren't you?
[05:43] <mikeeagles> LOL I just realized I was mikeeagles again.
[05:43] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: As I said, you typed it wrong
[05:43] <Jucato> err....
[05:43] <Jucato> lol
[05:43] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: You forgot a space between update and sudo
[05:43] <craftycorner> ?
[05:43] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Just like that, with the && and everything
[05:43] <ubotu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): TheFridge
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Here is what you typed:  craftycorner@craftycorner:~$ sudo apt-get updatesudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:44] <mikeeagles> GL all.
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Notice the 'updatesudo'
[05:44] <_alex> Hi ! This is not a kubntu question but can anyone do a whois on google.com ? Don't know what happended to it ... Thanks
[05:44] <Hawkwind> _alex: That output is normal
[05:44] <Hawkwind> _alex: Ignore it
[05:45] <MilhousePunkRock> why dont you do a whois on whois.org?
[05:45] <_alex> Hawkwind: Normal ?! What do you mean ?
[05:45] <hazard2> arg!
[05:45] <Hawkwind> However, that really should be taken to #Kubuntu-OffTopic since it's not Kubuntu related
[05:45] <craftycorner> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:45] <craftycorner> is that correct?
[05:45] <hazard2> Why does the built in automounter fail to mount USB drives?
[05:45] <_alex> Hawkwind: Go there ...
[05:45] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Yes
[05:46] <hazard2> autofs works, but the built in one fails.
[05:46] <craftycorner> same answer
[05:46] <Hawkwind> _alex: I have no need.  I know what the whois information shows.  It's 100% normal
[05:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone have a vanilla hibernate.conf perhaps?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Same answer ??
[05:46] <craftycorner> yes
[05:46] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Paste the command you did and the output
[05:46] <jende_> craftycorner: thats pretty much impossible, I'd say
[05:46] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Seems you aren't copying the && which you need to
[05:46] <_alex> Hawkwind: I just meant I go to the offtopic chan ... ("go there" meant that :)
[05:46] <Hawkwind> _alex: I have no need to go there
[05:47] <craftycorner> I copied exactly what I pasted here!
[05:47] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Please put it into pastebin
[05:47] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27500/
[05:48] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Please paste the output of lsb_release -a
[05:48] <craftycorner> ? I'm very new, have no idea what your trying to say
[05:48] <craftycorner> gimmie the wole command
[05:48] <Jucato> craftycorner: "lsb_release -a"
[05:48] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: lsb_release -a
[05:49] <Hawkwind> Type that and then paste it to http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[05:49] <Zerb_Riss> does anyone know why Adept in Edgy is showing 39 upfgrade candidates but holding them all back?
[05:50] <Jucato> Zerb_Riss: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might give you more descriptive error messages
[05:50] <craftycorner> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs lsb_release -a
[05:50] <Hawkwind> Zerb_Riss: Try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade from a terminal
[05:50] <Jucato> er no
[05:50] <Jucato> craftycorner: no
[05:50] <craftycorner> then what
[05:50] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: I need the output of the command:  lsb_release -a
[05:50] <Jucato> just that one command
[05:50] <Hawkwind> lsb_release -a  <~~Type that exactly
[05:50] <jende_> craftycorner: just and only: lsb_release -a
[05:50] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Type it into your terminal of course
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> Jucato: dist-upgrade says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 39 not upgraded.
[05:51] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27501/
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> Hawkwind: see above
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> upgrade does the same
[05:51] <Jucato> Zerb_Riss: anything else after that?
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> no
[05:51] <Jucato> O_o
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> it just says "The following packages have been kept back:"
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> and lists them
[05:51] <Zerb_Riss> it appears to be mainly python packages
[05:52] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Ok, here's your problem actually
[05:52] <Jucato> Zerb_Riss: you might be able to get some answers in #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Open up your /etc/apt/sources.list again with sudo, and remove every instance of us.  from the us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:52] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: So it needs to look like this:  archive.ubuntu.com  *not* us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Does that make sense ?
[05:53] <jende_> Hawkwind: I think one of us should do that for craftycorner
[05:54] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/171
[05:54] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: That's what your sources.list *should* look like
[05:55] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: You with me ?
[05:55] <craftycorner> I'm gonna paste dump what my sources looks like now ok?
[05:55] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Ok, that's fine
[05:56] <Hawkwind> jende_: For future reference, and I over looked it totally, us. doesn't have libxine-extracodecs it seems
[05:56] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27504/
[05:56] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Perfect!
[05:56] <Jucato> looks good
[05:56] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:56] <jende_> Hawkwind: which can be
[05:57] <jende_> Hawkwind: Thanks mate, I'll keep that on miind, for sure
[05:58] <Hawkwind> jende_: No problem
[05:58] <craftycorner> same problem,
[05:58] <Jucato> O_o
[05:58] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Impossible :P
[05:58] <craftycorner> doing paste dump
[05:58] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Paste the command you typed/copied, and *all* of it's output
[05:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: connection problem? router? firewall?
[05:59] <Hawkwind> Jucato: If so, he would experience it during apt-get update
[05:59] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27505/
[05:59] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, which we don't know that he's not
[05:59] <Jucato> :P
[05:59] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update     Then paste bin all of that output, the entire thing please
[05:59] <josh_> whats up people
[05:59] <Jucato> the sky's up
[05:59] <josh_> what conf file do i need to change to be able to log into the gui as root?
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> The ceiling here
[06:00] <Jucato> !sudo
[06:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:00] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Wait!
[06:00] <Jucato> joscha_: ^^^^^^^
[06:00] <josh_> yeah i know how to sudo
[06:00] <josh_> i want to log in to x as root
[06:00] <jende_> Hawkwind: did you have closer look at the output
[06:00] <Hawkwind> Yes
[06:00] <Jucato> josh_: that page has instructions
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> josh_: AFAIK you can create a real root account...
[06:00] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: You must not have saved the file after you edited it.  It's still using the us. mirror
[06:00] <jende_> Hawkwind: it still says US
[06:00] <fdoving> josh_: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc - 'AllowRootLogin' set it to true
[06:01] <craftycorner> I saved the file
[06:01] <josh_> ty
[06:01] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: I don't think you did, as it's not correct
[06:01] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list  <~~Make sure you are editing that file
[06:01] <fdoving> josh_: i assume you know how to enable the root account and set a password, and that you are aware of the risks of running X as root.
[06:01] <josh_> yep
[06:01] <josh_> already have it setup and all that
[06:02] <T3hWiz0rd> why would you want ot enable root on a sudoers OS?
[06:02] <T3hWiz0rd> it stops 50% of attacks dead.
[06:02] <josh_> i just dont want to have to do any sys changes (make new folders) through cli
[06:02] <fyrmedic> When installing a program with wine what path to the cdrom0 do I use.
[06:02] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: Some prefer it, including myself
[06:02] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: Ummmm, how so ?
[06:02] <jende_> !wine
[06:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:02] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: An OS is as secure as *you* make it
[06:02] <craftycorner> the thing is open
[06:02] <T3hWiz0rd> Hawkwind: with root gone attacks aren't as prevelent
[06:02] <craftycorner> paste dump?
[06:03] <josh_> no
[06:03] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: I disagree
[06:03] <trappist> Hawkwind: the point of disabling root and using sudoers is security.
[06:03] <josh_> because then they just sudo
[06:03] <josh_> then activate the root account
[06:03] <josh_> then ur screwed
[06:03] <pacman> I have a question
[06:03] <Jucato> josh_: you can make new folders in GUI, launch Konqueror with kdesu
[06:03] <josh_> because you didn't activate and dont have the apss now
[06:03] <Hawkwind> trappist: A box is as secure as you make it, root or no root
[06:03] <Hawkwind> You know that better than most :P
[06:03] <trappist> Hawkwind: it's impossible to brute force root access with a disabled root account.  and whether to enable root is part of how secure you're making your OS.
[06:03] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Do you see any us.archives.ubuntu.com in that file ?
[06:03] <pacman> I did an scp for some files on my buddy's server
[06:04] <pacman> but I can't find where they got saved to
[06:04] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27506/
[06:04] <josh_> trappist: look the fact of the matter is this... not enabling sudo is like having a blank windows admin account
[06:04] <pacman> scp pacman@idlers.us:/web/*.avi .
[06:04] <Hawkwind> trappist: I have root enabled, but my box isn't accessible by the outside world
[06:04] <craftycorner> dang
[06:04] <josh_> someone will just activate it and then they have root
[06:04] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Bingo!
[06:04] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: You have all the us.  still there.  You need to remove them, and *save* the file
[06:05] <pacman> anyone?
[06:05] <MilhousePunkRock> craftycorner: Use source-o-matic...
[06:05] <trappist> Hawkwind: you don't want to depend on a single layer of security (like not being *directly* accessible from the outside) for your security.  Your box is as secure as you make it, and enabling root is an act of making it ever so slightly less secure.
[06:05] <T3hWiz0rd> mmmkay, yeah, theres no advantages to not having a root account disabled.
[06:05] <Hawkwind> They got saved in /web/
[06:05] <Jucato> ugh.. source-o-matic...
[06:05] <T3hWiz0rd> including if someone gets ssh access to the system and runs rootscripts...
[06:06] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:06] <T3hWiz0rd> but yanno, wheres the risk in it... I'm not smart after all.
[06:06] <Hawkwind> trappist: Being connected to the internet makes it less secure
[06:06] <trappist> sure
[06:06] <Hawkwind> Telling people not to disable root is stupid IMO.  It's their choice, let them do it if they choose/want
[06:06] <Jucato> but do tell them the reasons why it isn't enabled in the first place.
[06:06] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27507/  please check to make sure i did this right
[06:06] <fdoving> pacman: they got saved to the directory where you executed 'scp' from. also known as '.'
[06:07] <T3hWiz0rd> Hawkwind: kubuntu comes out of the box with no root access.
[06:07] <trappist> pretty much every security decision you make is going to be a tradeoff.  enabling root makes things more convenient (maybe) and less secure.  I don't think that particular tradeoff is a very good one.
[06:07] <Hawkwind> Most, not all of course, but most that enable root half know what they're doing in the first place
[06:07] <Jucato> craftycorner: make sure you saved it :)
[06:07] <T3hWiz0rd> in an OS *like* kubuntu that isn't meant to be a choice.
[06:07] <Hawkwind> trappist: I'm well aware of that since I run the distro
[06:07] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: Wrong!
[06:07] <craftycorner> i will
[06:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I agree, but if he fails to edit his sources manually for half an hour now, maybe it's the way to go for him
[06:07] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: Linux is *all* about choice
[06:07] <T3hWiz0rd> kubuntu is geared at simplifying things.
[06:07] <craftycorner> I hit the little floppy!
[06:07] <Jucato> *cough*offtopic*cough*
[06:07] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: got a tickle in your throat, try some warm honey.
[06:07] <trappist> Jucato: yeah
[06:08] <Jucato> sorry T3hWiz0rd.. it just seems that offtopic just springs up around you :)
[06:08] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: So you removed all of the us. and saved the file ?
[06:08] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: i don't see discussing linux security to be off topic... and frankly, your sticklerism is annoying. but thats just me.
[06:08] <pacman> fdoving: I'm not finding the files or the folder anywhere
[06:09] <fdoving> t3hwiz0rd, linux security can be offtopic in a kubuntu support channel.
[06:09] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: if there is going to be such a high level of anomosity in here for people trying to educate themselves and others about things that do relate to kubuntu, perhaps I need to choose an OS with a better community.
[06:09] <craftycorner> let me try again
[06:09] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: where's the animosity?
[06:09] <Hawkwind> fdoving: Good catch.  I looked at the . as the punctuation as the end of the sentence.  I hate that . being part of the command :)
[06:09] <T3hWiz0rd> its not like I am talking about my gf or my car, im talking about the root account and if or if not it should be enabled on kubuntu.
[06:10] <Jucato> fine do as you please. I'm not going to say another word
[06:10] <craftycorner> yes
[06:10] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: It's about the users choice, end of discussion
[06:10] <sacha_> i need root
[06:10] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: So the file is correct now ?
[06:10] <davide> jende_ are you here?
[06:10] <sacha_> i log into root every time i boot up so i can 'kdm'
[06:11] <Hawkwind> sacha_: Why do you run kdm as root ????????
[06:11] <sacha_> it wont let me run it as anything else
[06:11] <sacha_> it tells me kdm wants root to run it
[06:11] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: when you boot kdm doesn't load on its own?
[06:11] <sacha_> no, i didnt choose that
[06:11] <craftycorner> i think so
[06:11] <Hawkwind> sacha_: It should start on it's own when you boot
[06:11] <LjL> T3hWiz0rd, the issue is simply that #kubuntu and #ubuntu are support channels, and as such are intended solely as places to ask and reply to support questions. Anything else goes to #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic -- that's all. Nothing personal in that, I believe.
[06:11] <sacha_> i didnt choose that option
[06:11] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:11] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: have you tried running sudo /et/init.d/kdm start.
[06:11] <ubuntu> I have a stupid problem... I turned the display up to 1600x1200 which my screen can't handle, how can i edit this manually ?
[06:12] <sacha_> yes sudo didnt work
[06:12] <skh> anyone have any ideas why after a system sleep/hibernate my synaptics touchpad doesnt work?  Possibly sometime wrong with my xorg.conf (altho ive mess around with this alot) or the module not loading?
[06:12] <Hawkwind> LjL: Enough!  He's already been told, the discussion is over. No need to continue
[06:12] <LjL> ubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:12] <sacha_> it explicitly wants root to run kdm
[06:12] <ubuntu> LjL: thanks
[06:12] <davide> hey guys i installed unrar from Synaptic
[06:12] <T3hWiz0rd> Hawkwind: it seems to be ac ommunity trend. Suse is starting to sound well and better again
[06:12] <davide> but now i cannot find this program
[06:12] <LjL> yes Hawkwind, actually i believed i had edited my line to make that a /notice, but i hadn't.
[06:12] <davide> how i can do?
[06:12] <Hawkwind> sacha_: kdm should start on it's own during boot.  What have you done that it doesn't ?
[06:12] <jende_> davide: whats up?
[06:12] <sacha_> i dont like it starting on its own
[06:13] <davide> hey jende
[06:13] <davide> maybe i found a solution
[06:13] <BonBonTheJon> davide: unrar is run from the command line
[06:13] <Hawkwind> sacha_: You shouldn't be doing it the way you are, seriously
[06:13] <pacman> I'm just not finding the files
[06:13] <sacha_> why not?
[06:13] <davide> but now i have to decompress a rar file
[06:13] <T3hWiz0rd> sacha_: thats not good if its asking souly for root account. Did you edit anything in init.d?
[06:13] <craftycorner> I got something different
[06:13] <Hawkwind> sacha_: You let it run on it's own when the system boots.  Then you don't have to worry about it
[06:13] <sacha_> i believe that's the way it's meant to be.. kdm is meant to be run from root
[06:13] <BonBonTheJon> davide: it should be 'unrar file.rar'
[06:13] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Put it into pastebin, the complete output please
[06:14] <Hawkwind> BonBonTheJon: unrar e file.rar actually
[06:14] <sacha_> yeah hawkwind but sometimes i need to run stuff before i go into X, or run gnome instead or xgl instead
[06:14] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27508/
[06:14] <davide> but how i can launch this program?
[06:14] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: ok, i've never gotten it to work, so maybe i was missing the e
[06:14] <Hawkwind> sacha_: So then kill kdm and start what you want
[06:14] <sacha_> that's pointless :P
[06:14] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Again, it's still using us.
[06:14] <craftycorner> this isn't making sense, I'm saving the thing
[06:14] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: That last command is wrong
[06:15] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Type just this:      kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <sacha_> gotta load kde then, ctrl+alt+f1 then kill it, then login as root and do my stuff -- i prefer to save some steps :)
[06:15] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: That will open up a file that you should see all sorts of stuff in. Please tell me when you have that file open
[06:15] <fdoving> sacha_: you can disable kdm at boot with this command 'sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove' to re-enable it use 'sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults' (save that for later reference).
[06:15] <BluesKaj> T3hWiz0rd, it's your choice but you'll regret it , yast is a PITA and everyone knows it even the biggest Suse fans know that . Just cuz you encounter a few difficulties here with your probs , we all have them and instant gratification is not for Linux users
[06:16] <craftycorner> it keeps saving more and more copies of itself
[06:16] <sacha_> fdoving, i dont have kdm as boot :)
[06:16] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Then you're doing the commands wrong
[06:16] <sacha_> and i can never predict when i want to remove it
[06:16] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: That command I gave you will only open up /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <sacha_> that's why i dont load anything for boot
[06:16] <davide> BonBonTheJon sorry i type unrar and then the name of the file
[06:17] <davide> but this is the message" sudo: unrar: command not found
[06:17] <BonBonTheJon> davide: try unrar by itself and see if it gives any output
[06:17] <Hawkwind> davide: unrar e file.rar
[06:17] <Hawkwind> unrar file.rar is not a command that works
[06:18] <Hawkwind> davide: Make sure you've got unrar installed first and foremost
[06:18] <BonBonTheJon> Hawkwind: thats what I'm trying to check
[06:18] <davide> Hawkwind: i installed it from Synaptic
[06:18] <Hawkwind> dpkg -l unrar  would tell you really quick
[06:18] <davide> and now i think it's installed
[06:18] <Hawkwind> davide: Then type:  unrar e your-file.rar
[06:19] <fdoving> davide: is the rar file owned by root?
[06:19] <davide> Hawkwind: i wrote "dpkg..." and it says "no one packet it's installed"
[06:19] <Hawkwind> davide: Replace your-file.rar with the actual name of a file
[06:19] <davide> how is it possible?i installed it
[06:19] <craftycorner> the us isn't in the list
[06:19] <Hawkwind> davide: Then it's not installed
[06:20] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: sudo apt-get update  <~~Try just that and paste your command you did, and the output
[06:20] <BluesKaj> !Windows Network Printers
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Windows Network Printers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <davide> Hawkwind: what's the iter from Konsole to install unrar?
[06:20] <Hawkwind> davide: sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone have a vanilla Edgy installation by any chance?
[06:21] <Jucato> davide: make sure multiverse in enabled in order to install unrar
[06:21] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: pretty much, what do you need?
[06:21] <craftycorner> string us.archive not found in kate file
[06:21] <LjL> MilhousePunkRock: i do. but edgy discussion is for #ubuntu+1
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> i need to know what the /etc/hibernate/ folder looks like
[06:21] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Save the file, and then do:  sudo apt-get update   and paste the complete output please
[06:22] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: doesn't exist on my x86 edgy box.
[06:23] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Do you have KPowersave installed?
[06:23] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: it will be called #edgy soon :P
[06:23] <LjL> !edgy
[06:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:23] <fdoving> i think it's close enought to be dapper+edgy :] 
[06:23] <davide> Hawkwind: i installed it,but now i did what you wrote and i don't know where it decompress files
[06:23] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27510/
[06:23] <davide> in what foulder?
[06:23] <davide> folder?
[06:24] <LjL> MilhousePunkRock: i'm not making up the rules, no need for sarcasm about them. :-) anyway, if you care to join #ubuntu+1, i'll try to answer your question
[06:24] <Hawkwind> davide: It decompresses in the directory you ran the command, or where the files were originally
[06:24] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: no, i don't have kpowersave installed.
[06:24] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: That might be it
[06:24] <Hawkwind> LjL: Seems he's getting help here.  No need to push him elsewhere
[06:25] <craftycorner> any us?
[06:25] <LjL> ok, then i suppose he doesn't need my help.
[06:25] <Jucato> craftycorner: so far so good
[06:25] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:26] <Jucato> whoa nalioth
[06:26] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27511/
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> how do I make it so that my user account can modify the www-data files?
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> oh wait
[06:26] <nalioth> Jucato: yes?
[06:27] <Jucato> nalioth: just wanted to say hi :)
[06:27] <fdoving> Zerb_Riss: add your self to the www-data group, and set group permissions to rw
[06:27] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Then something is wrong with your sources.list somewhere.  I'm not sure you are pasting the right file as you stated earlier it's opening a bunch of different files or something
[06:27] <davide> Hawkwind: what's the command to convert rpm in deb?
[06:27] <Zerb_Riss> how do I set group permissions?
[06:27] <abattoir> hi hyper, sorry was afk
[06:27] <Jucato> Hawkwind: maybe it's time to recommend something like Automatix?
[06:27] <Zerb_Riss> davide: alien
[06:28] <hyper> abattoir: it's ok... you play WoW?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Up to you.  I know nothing about that stuff
[06:28] <abattoir> hyper: nope
[06:28] <Jucato> er.. nvm then...
[06:28] <Hawkwind> davide: That is not recommended at all, it's very dangerous
[06:28] <craftycorner> you've seen my sources.list
[06:28] <Jucato> !automatix
[06:28] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[06:28] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Maybe easysource ?
[06:28] <Jucato> either would do...
[06:29] <Hawkwind> !easysource > craftycorner
[06:29] <hyper> abattoir: ok :) thx
[06:29] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: Follow the information about easysource that the bot just pm'd you with
[06:29] <davide> Hawkwind: i have to convert a rpm, to deb
[06:29] <Hawkwind> davide: Why ?
[06:29] <Hawkwind> davide: An rpm of what app exactly ?
[06:29] <davide> because there are drivers
[06:30] <davide> driver for printe
[06:30] <craftycorner> um, what's the latest kubuntu
[06:30] <Jucato> craftycorner: Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)
[06:30] <Hawkwind> davide: You could use 'alien' but be forewarned, it's very dangerous. I'd try to find drivers in a different format like .tar.gz or something
[06:30] <Jucato> or 6.06.1, just the same
[06:30] <craftycorner> and the computer?
[06:31] <craftycorner> I've a celeron, that's right
[06:31] <Hawkwind> craftycorner: If it gives you the options of mirrors, please do *not* use the us. mirror.  Pick something like se. or something
[06:32] <abattoir> craftycorner: i386 is the architecture then
[06:32] <jende_> Hawkwind: or .de
[06:32] <Jucato> de. :P
[06:32] <Hawkwind> Anything besides us. :P
[06:33] <trappist> davide: if I'm faced with having to deal with an rpm, I use rpm2cpio | cpio to just extract the contents
[06:33] <nalioth> Jucato: 'whoa' is how you tell a horse to stop.  :)
[06:34] <Jucato> nalioth: heheh wouldn't know. I don't ride horses. :)
[06:34] <Hawkwind> nalioth: I hope he wasn't trying to insinuate anything when he said that then :P
[06:34] <craftycorner> how do I download this sucker
[06:34] <jende_> craftycorner: what do you want to DL though?
[06:35] <abattoir> craftycorner: ummm... what are you trying to download? an iso image?
[06:35] <craftycorner> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:35] <craftycorner> fix my um source.list
[06:35] <fdoving> MilhousePunkRock: do you have the 'hibernate' package installed? that's the one putting stuff in /etc/hibernate
[06:35] <davide> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[06:35] <davide> ol
[06:35] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Most likely, let me check
[06:35] <davide> finally
[06:36] <davide> after 4 days
[06:36] <davide> my Canon i250 fonctions!!
[06:36] <craftycorner> no, trying to fix my sourcelist using that url
[06:36] <abattoir> craftycorner: click on 'Give me a sources.list'
[06:36] <TheGateKeeper> craftycorner: follow this guide then maybe you will get somewhere ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[06:36] <davide> thanks to everyone
[06:36] <craftycorner> ah ok
[06:36] <davide> thank you jende_
[06:36] <jende_> davide: it works?
[06:37] <abattoir> craftycorner: it should open kate, along w/ the new sources.list... as root, backup your old sources.list, and the paste this there
[06:37] <davide> jende_: yes it works!!!
[06:37] <jende_> craftycorner: all you have to do at source-o-matic is to tick some boxes
[06:37] <abattoir> craftycorner: tell me when the window opens up...
[06:37] <MilhousePunkRock> fdoving: Yeah, I have it... How do I find out if it's "old or new" now?
[06:38] <davide> jende_: i create a key to let the printer work
[06:38] <craftycorner> I didn't back up my old source list, but it was busted anyway
[06:38] <jende_> davide: good, so your prob is solved
[06:38] <davide> yes
[06:38] <Jucato> 1 down, 1 to go...
[06:39] <jende_> Jucato: what???
[06:39] <davide> jende_: after 3 days of hell,we finally solved!
[06:39] <Jucato> 1 problem down, 1 to go
[06:39] <craftycorner> the window opened, I opened kate, cut and paste and saved a new source list
[06:40] <abattoir> craftycorner: ok, do a 'sudo apt-get update' now, in a terminal...
[06:40] <hazard2> is there 'skins' in kubuntu?
[06:40] <abattoir> craftycorner: the 'busted' sources.list was your only problem? or were you wanting to do something that it was hindering?
[06:40] <craftycorner> I gott a go
[06:40] <hazard2> bye crafty
[06:40] <Jucato> abattoir: he was trying to install libxine-extracodecs...
[06:40] <Hawkwind> abattoir: He's been trying to install libxine-extracodecs
[06:41] <jende_> folks, I'll be gone for a lil  while!
[06:41] <jende_> See ya all later, I hope
[06:41] <davide> see you jende_
[06:41] <davide> ;)
[06:42] <jende_> davide: see ya
[06:42] <josh_> who uses k3b in here?
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> josh_: guilty as charged lol
[06:43] <josh_> can you burn a cd using mp3's?
[06:43] <josh_> mine wont let me....
[06:43] <apokryphos> yes
[06:43] <josh_> complaining about unsupported format
[06:43] <apokryphos> josh_: you need k3b-mp3
[06:43] <josh_> rgr
[06:43] <Jucato> libk3b-mp3
[06:43] <apokryphos> it's in the FAQ, actually
[06:43] <Jucato> !mp3
[06:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:43] <Jucato> joscha_: it's somewhere there, together with libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <Jucato> er.. josh_
[06:44] <Jucato> sorry joscha_
[06:44] <apokryphos> !find k3b
[06:44] <ubotu> Found: k3b, libk3b2, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2-mp3
[06:44] <apokryphos> there
[06:44] <Jucato> !libk3b2-mp3
[06:44] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:44] <Jucato> that one
[06:45] <josh_> thank you very much guys :)
[06:45] <josh_> now i can burn the daughters cd lol
[06:46] <Jucato> er... I just misread that...
[06:49] <Acidic32> !adept-crash-fix
[06:49] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[06:50] <ubuntu> im installing ubuntu from the live CD. The partitions are all set, how do I set which one is gonna be used to install it??
[06:50] <apokryphos> ubuntu: set the / mount point for it
[06:50] <ubuntu> where?
[06:51] <apokryphos> ubuntu: well, click something like edit or whatever, and edit the mount point of the partition, and set it as /
[06:51] <ubuntu> there is no button labeled mount
[06:51] <ubuntu> no edit
[06:51] <apokryphos> mount point, it's somewhere there
[06:52] <apokryphos> for the given partition you'll have to format it as ext3
[06:53] <ubuntu> Im seeing a button named PROPERTY
[06:53] <ubuntu> it just shows the partition info
[06:54] <ubuntu> nothing to edit
[06:54] <Acidic32> is there a button saying Partition?
[06:54] <ubuntu> no
[06:54] <Acidic32> mm
[06:54] <Jucato> I think the option to mount the different folders comes after editing the partition table
[06:54] <ubuntu> im using the live CD
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: if you do a manual partition it will ask which partition is to be used for swap, root, home etc
[06:55] <Acidic32> it doest
[06:55] <Jucato> (after pressing the Next button)
[06:55] <ubuntu> ok
[06:55] <ubuntu> Im seeing the mounting point now
[07:03] <hammer> cpk2: hi
[07:04] <Kunrubu> how do I enable ident in Konversation?
[07:07] <_robert> hi, where I discuss problems with the kde 3.5.5 dapper packages?
[07:11] <ubuntu> hi
[07:12] <ubuntu> anyone there
[07:20] <samuel__> does kubuntu come with firefox?
[07:21] <MasterEvilAce> no i don't believe so but you can d/l it using apt-get
[07:21] <_robert> you can install it
[07:21] <Jucato> samuel__: no but you can install it
[07:21] <_robert> but its not installed by default
[07:21] <samuel__> sweet
[07:21] <_robert> ps: where I discuss problems with the kde 3.5.5 dapper packages?
[07:21] <_robert> samuel: ubuntu/kubuntu use the same repositories
[07:21] <samuel__> how do you update kubuntu?
[07:22] <Acidic32> !wmv
[07:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <_robert> on the console with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade  ... and apt-get install firefox for installing it
[07:22] <_robert> !kde
[07:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[07:25] <joe__> hello all
[07:26] <mimil> salut tout le monde
[07:26] <MasterEvilAce> anyone have probs with special keys on laptops now? Dell Inspiron 8000 is what I have. Before, the volume keys worked perfectly fine out of the box. I've been doing upgrades maybe daily. and i noticed those keys don't work anymore. i've been able to xmodmap the buttons and then i can SET them in kmix, but after i save changes.. it's like the keys don't work anymore.. and they're not detected at all
[07:27] <joe__> nope
[07:28] <joe__> lnflvn'lasnfv'alnsv
[07:28] <joe__> lnkbvlan
[07:28] <joe__> WN
[07:28] <joe__> WO
[07:28] <joe__> pWJE
[07:28] <joe__> YEP
[07:38] <drack> Is there a way to change audio drivers without recompiling the kernel?
[07:38] <drack> mplayer thinks there's something wrong witht hem, and apps that use OSS have a lot of static with their sounds
[07:39] <drack> for reference, I'm running Kubuntu Edgy on an Acer Ferrari 4005 ... For sound it uses atiixp module
[07:51] <syke> hi
[07:51] <syke> I just did a dist-upgrade, which attempted to isntall koffice 1.6
[07:51] <syke> and I got this error:
[07:51] <syke> Unpacking replacement xinit ...
[07:51] <syke> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:51] <syke>  /var/cache/apt/archives/krita_1%3a1.6.0-0ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb
[07:51] <syke> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:52] <fildo> !pastebin > syke
[07:52] <soulrider> yea
[07:52] <jende_> Hi folks ;-)
[07:52] <soulrider> try to use the pastebin
[07:52] <syke> for 4 lines? is that a "large" paste?
[07:52] <soulrider> im sorry. but since i dont use koffice i dont know what that could have been
[07:52] <soulrider> tea
[07:52] <syke> is this channel really high traffic right now?
[07:52] <soulrider> yeah*
[07:52] <syke> is the limit 3 lines?
[07:52] <syke> 2 lines?
[07:52] <syke> 1 line?
[07:52] <soulrider> well, anythign that takes a couple of lines or more should go there :P
[07:52] <jende_> syke: we had the whole day high traffic
[07:53] <syke> ok
[07:53] <syke> anyways, it looks like the koffice 1.6 packages supplied on kubuntu.org are broken
[07:54] <syke> who should I email/contact to notify them?
[07:54] <soulrider> uhm
[07:54] <syke> or is there someone in this channel?
[07:54] <soulrider> its been released for a few days now
[07:54] <soulrider> maybe its just you
[07:54] <jende_> syke: the Koffice team
[07:54] <syke> soulrider: that's possible
[07:54] <jende_> syke: basically browse the bugs archive if its just you, or if the prob you just had is already known
[07:54] <Electrolyte> Well I won't sodding bother with XGL then.
[07:55] <Electrolyte> Since the packages on the repository break each other
[08:00] <jende_> syke: I just installed for the fun of it KOffice on edgy and it works just fine
[08:00] <syke> I'm using dapper
[08:00] <jende_> syke: the official release will be next friday
[08:01] <syke> official release of..?
[08:01] <jende_> syke: I know that you're on Dapper, but if there was an issue/bug it seems to be that it got fixed - at least for Koffice in Edgy
[08:02] <jende_> syke: the official Release of Edgy...;)
[08:02] <syke> oh
[08:02] <syke> cool
[08:02] <syke> will that be supported under my canonical support?
[08:02] <jende_> syke: think so
[08:03] <syke> and will it be shipping with kde 3.5.5 so that more ajax-y sites work properly?
[08:03] <jende_> syke: yep it'll come with KDE 3.5.5
[08:03] <syke> awesome
[08:03] <_robert> where I discuss problems with the new kde 3.5.5 dapper packages?
[08:03] <jende_> _robert: depends
[08:04] <jende_> _robert: what is the prob?
[08:04] <TheGateKeeper> jende_: they manged to get it to go any quicker, either booting up, or starting apps?
[08:04] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: isn't that really also a question of the Hardware one uses
[08:04] <_robert> the kmail crashes at some imap problems on kubuntu. I tried to reproduce it on a suse and works there without any problem
[08:05] <_robert> there is even an bug report from someone else. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135948
[08:05] <syke> robert: I had kmail crash quite often before I updated to KDE 3.5.3
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> jende_: try arch linux & then tell me it's hardware lol
[08:05] <_robert> but as I said I can reproduce that only on kubuntu
[08:05] <syke> what version of kde are you running?
[08:05] <_robert> 3.5.5
[08:05] <jende_> syke: never used KMail and still wont
[08:05] <syke> hm, weird
[08:05] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: you might have got me wrong, I guess
[08:05] <_robert> the 3.5.4 worked for days without crash
[08:05] <syke> jende: um, good for you. wanta cookie?
[08:06] <syke> robert: is the stack trace sane?
[08:06] <jende_> syke: a coffe would be nice
[08:06] <syke> depending on compiler, libc, etc the memory layout would be different and corruption may not cause a crash in SuSe
[08:07] <TheGateKeeper> jende_: kubuntu has many nice attributes but unfortunately speed ain't one of them, unless thay have managed to improve the situation with edge
[08:07] <_robert> syke: I just try to get the error with an strace running
[08:07] <_robert> but now it just doesn't crash ;-)
[08:07] <syke> what about running it under gdb?
[08:07] <syke> gah, I hate it when that happens ;)
[08:07] <syke> you could also rebuild the package with symbols
[08:08] <siimon> i love ya guys <3<3<3
[08:09] <_robert> syke: before joining the channel it crashed 2 times in 10 min .. but now .. .arg
[08:09] <_robert> but I'll stay at it and paste a line if it crashed again
[08:10] <_robert> and I can confirm the stacktrace
[08:10] <klerfayt> where is kmenu config file hidden?
[08:12] <orient2000> I am lost. I can not fix xserver and I run only in a text mode. Would full upgrade solve this problem? I do not want to loose my data.
[08:12] <zorglu_> klerfayt: 'strace kmenuedit' :)
[08:12] <drack> How do you install w32codecs under edgy?  "sudo apt-get install w32codecs" says Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:12] <firephoto> klerfayt: you mean the settings for the app or the menu entries you've added/changed?
[08:13] <klerfayt> firephoto: I would like to delete kmenu config file
[08:13] <klerfayt> firephoto: and use default
[08:14] <firephoto> klerfayt: any menu entry changed is in is in ~/.local/applications, the kmenuedit config is in ~/.kde/share/config/
[08:15] <klerfayt> firephoto: I'm in ~/.kde/share/config but I don't see kmenu config there
[08:15] <firephoto> klerfayt: kmenueditrc
[08:16] <TheGateKeeper> orient2000: is xserver the issue or xorg.conf?
[08:17] <klerfayt> firephoto: I got only "SplitterSizes=240,307" here; but how did wine entry occur then if it is not here?
[08:17] <firephoto> klerfayt: you need to look in ~/.local/applications and clean that up if you want to remove stuff manually.
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> orient2000: have you tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall ??
[08:18] <klerfayt> firephoto: I tried deleting ~/.wine folder but menu enties are still there and there are no applications in ~/.local
[08:19] <firephoto> klerfayt: ~/.kde/share/applnk
[08:19] <firephoto> klerfayt: wine (and others) store links in there. i forgot about that one.
[08:19] <klerfayt> firephoto: thanks I see them
[08:20] <firephoto> klerfayt: you should be able to right click the menu item too and edit to remove those too.
[08:22] <orient2000> I tried everything
[08:22] <orient2000> I have no other option but reinstall it all.
[08:23] <firephoto> drack: you need the plf repos
[08:23] <drack> firephoto, ok what linedo I need to add to sources.list?
[08:25] <Hawkwind> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[08:25] <drack> Thank you Hawkwind
[08:25] <Hawkwind> Yep
[08:26] <firephoto> does that still work for dapper? the edgy one changed.
[08:27] <chowsapal> hmm i was under the impression that knetworkmanager was integrated with wpasupplicant
[08:27] <chowsapal> but i'm not getting a WPA option when i go to join a network
[08:27] <chowsapal> i'm using a netgear MA521 pci card
[08:28] <chowsapal> i guess i'm also wondering which driver that uses for wpasupplicant
[08:28] <TheGateKeeper> orient2000: give me something to go on
[08:29] <Joel-Wideman> I have a Belkin wireless network card (PCI) and it was working up until I did a full upgrade. Kubuntu doesn't even see the card. Any ideas?
[08:30] <jende_> orient2000: there might be no need to reinstall
[08:30] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: what chipset does the Belkin have?
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> orient2000: have you tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall yes or no  ??
[08:32] <Joel-Wideman> Not sure - there's a part # on the box: F5D7000
[08:32] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: lspci will tell you that
[08:32] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: Part# dont say anything
[08:33] <Joel-Wideman> lspci just says it's an unknown device
[08:33] <orient2000> I used easyubuntu and it installed ati drivers and then i downloaded somexserver files without knowing whot they are. Some server was down and download did not comlete. After that I reboot and my xserver does not come up anymore. Error opening /dev/wacom : no such file or directory could not open default cursor font 'cursor' *(RADEON.....
[08:33] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: if you don't know what I'm lookin' for just pastebin the output of lspci
[08:33] <jende_> !pastebin
[08:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:33] <zorglu_> !baddevice
[08:33] <ubotu> baddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[08:34] <zorglu_> orient2000: you may try the above link about /dev/wacom
[08:34] <kUbuntu> I deleted /tmp instead of /tmp/* and can\t login anymore
[08:35] <zorglu_> q. is there any regular helper with some free time. i got some simple idea to speedup the help here
[08:35] <Joel-Wideman> If I could paste it, jende, I wouldn't have the problem :P It's on another computer in another room
[08:35] <zorglu_> kUbuntu: use the livecd to recreate it
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> orient2000: have you got a copy of xorg.conf before all this started?
[08:36] <kUbuntu> zorglu_: I tried creating mkdir /tmp but that didn\t help
[08:36] <kUbuntu> zorglu_: I think I need to change the permissions of that folder_
[08:36] <zorglu_> kUbuntu: i think so too
[08:36] <zorglu_> $ ls -ld /tmp
[08:36] <zorglu_> drwxrwxrwt 15 root root 4096 2006-10-20 20:29 /tmp
[08:36] <zorglu_> kUbuntu: note the 't' at the end
[08:37] <kUbuntu> zorglu_: ? I don\t understand
[08:37] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: okay, let us see...give me the EXACT model and type of you PCI Card and I'll try to get some more information
[08:37] <Joel-Wideman> jende, it says something like: Ethernet Controller: Atheros Corp, Unknown Device: 001A (rev 1A)
[08:37] <zorglu_> kUbuntu: ask an helper to give you all the command to reach the same result i pasted
[08:38] <zorglu_> kUbuntu: sorry personnaly i dont have the time
[08:38] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: so, its an theros chipset
[08:38] <n8k99> does anyone in here know where I can find the sound log?
[08:38] <Joel-Wideman> okay...
[08:39] <Joel-Wideman> it worked enough to upgrade over the net with adept
[08:39] <zorglu_> Joel-Wideman: tried to use the kernel which was running before the upgrade ? it should still be available via grub
[08:40] <Joel-Wideman> I'll check
[08:40] <kUbuntu> so I have to "sudo chmod drwxrwxrwT /tmp"?
[08:41] <zorglu_> kUbuntu: nope :) ok ill be back in 5min and give you all the commands. meanwhile launch the livecd and come here :)
[08:41] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: try these 3 steps one after the other all with SUDO
[08:41] <jende_> modprobe wlan <- this could be also wlan0
[08:41] <kUbuntu> zorglu_: but I am using livecd cause can\t login
[08:41] <jende_> modprobe ath_hal
[08:41] <jende_> modprobe ath_pci
[08:42] <orient2000> I am not sure.
[08:42] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: then see what sudo dmesg tells you.If the card is there dmesg will tell xou that
[08:43] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: then see what sudo dmesg tells you.If the card is there dmesg will tell you that
[08:43] <kUbuntu> chmod +t /tmp ?
[08:43] <jende_> !sound
[08:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:44] <jende_> n8k99: that will help
[08:44] <TheGateKeeper> orient2000: have you looked in /etc ?
[08:44] <n8k99> jende: i'll try that
[08:46] <kUbuntu> how is "drwxrwxrwt" in chmod?
[08:46] <Joel-Wideman> jende_, thanks for the help. I guess I'll recompile the newer kernel if I want to use it.
[08:48] <jende_> Joel-Wideeman: unfortunately I have only a german wiki, but still it could help you
[08:48] <jende_> Joel-Wideman: wanna have it?It's a wiki re atheros wlan
[08:48] <Joel-Wideman> jende_, sure, why not
[08:49] <jende_> http://www.schokilade.de/doku.php?id=linux:wlan
[08:49] <Joel-Wideman> thanks, that should help if I need it
[08:50] <zorglu_> hmm kUbuntu is more there
[08:56] <Frederick> folks wich is the package I need to install to have full opengl libs support? I want glut and GL libs
[08:56] <jende_> !opengl
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <jende_> !open gl
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <rawrness> !anything
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <Frederick> jende_: draft1.c:2:19: error: GL/GL.h: No such file or directory
[08:58] <jende_> Frederick: you're on Dapper?
[08:58] <Frederick> jende_: yes
[08:59] <zorglu_> apt-cache search GL.h provides weird results
[09:00] <Electrolyte> Can anyone explain how I can add text after the KMenu icon? Can't find anything on Google to do it.
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: as in 3D racing game?
[09:00] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: yep, and especially no library
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: you got synaptic?
[09:01] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: nope, why ?
[09:02] <jende_> Frederick: you have a nvidia graphik-board?
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: it's a gui package manager with a nice little search facility might help you find what you are looking for quicker, or you could try putting apt:/ into konqueror
[09:03] <Frederick> jende_: I do
[09:03] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: if you use Firefox that also has a package search facility
[09:04] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: is it possible to query the package based on the file they provides ? like gimme the packages which provides the file /usr/include/limits.h ?
[09:05] <jende_> Frederick: so, you should get the required libraries from NVidia as they should
[09:06] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: there probable is a way but I don't know off the top of my head how you would do it, one thing for sure is that it will be a *-dev package
[09:07] <zorglu_> ok
[09:08] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: put limits.h into google see if anything that comes back makes sence
[09:08] <zorglu_> it is more to learn how to do it, more than getting this particular file :)
[09:08] <Frederick> back
[09:08] <jende_> Frederick: so, you should get the required libraries from NVidia as they should
[09:10] <Frederick> 2:19: error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory
[09:10] <jende_> Frederick: sorry, ut couldn't more to help you
[09:10] <jende_> Frederick: sorry, but couldn't find more to help you
[09:11] <mimil> bonjour tout le monde
[09:11] <jende_> !fr
[09:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:11] <mimil> y a des francais ?
[09:11] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: well there are things like dpkg -l | grep <partial package name>
[09:11] <jende_> !fr
[09:12] <mimil> c'est quoi !fr ?
[09:12] <hammer> hi everybody!
[09:12] <jende_> mimil
[09:12] <jende_> !fr
[09:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:12] <zorglu_> mimil, cest un channel ou lon parle anglais
[09:12] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: the various other methods I have given you for searching for a package
[09:12] <mimil> mince
[09:12] <theresa> hallo! is there a german kubuntu channel?
[09:12] <zorglu_> !de
[09:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:12] <jende_> !de
[09:13] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: ok, i will read the doc more in depth
[09:13] <jende_> theresa: was ist denn dein Prob
[09:14] <rawrness> !ja
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_: if you come up with a good answer let me know :-)
[09:14] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: ok :)
[09:15] <lupine_85> hehe
[09:16] <NightBird> yeay newegg!
[09:16] <Ash-Fox> No, it really isn't funny. I have important things todo and it's down
[09:16] <hammer> how dom i launch newly installed programms without rebooting?
[09:16] <hammer> *do
[09:16] <Ash-Fox> hammer, alt + f2
[09:17] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: Get used to SF being down.  I'd switch my stuff over to Google Code if it's that important as SF is down more than it's ever up
[09:17] <NightBird> what program requires you to reboot?
[09:17] <hammer> Ash-Fox: in slack it was better =(
[09:17] <Hawkwind> hammer: alt-f2 or click it from the menus
[09:17] <TheGateKeeper> Ash-Fox: looks ok to me give me a url
[09:17] <hammer> NightBird: i mean they apper in menu after kde restart
[09:17] <Ash-Fox> TheGateKeeper, www.aros.org
[09:17] <NightBird> really? huh
[09:17] <hammer> *appear
[09:17] <Hawkwind> hammer: kbuildsycoca  will update your menus
[09:18] <Ash-Fox> And yes, that's hosted on SF's servers.
[09:18] <Hawkwind> hammer: Then you don't have to restart KDE
[09:18] <hammer> Hawkwind: thx!
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> Ash-Fox: hmm that one looks knackered, is there another mirror?
[09:18] <Hawkwind> hammer: You're welcome
[09:19] <Ash-Fox> TheGateKeeper, aros.sourceforge.net
[09:19] <Ash-Fox> TheGateKeeper, which is essentially the same thing, both hosted by SF :P
[09:20] <root> Hi, can someone help me? After update (in adept) of kubuntu 6.06 I can't login in GUI. There's some rrors with interprocess comunication(don't know englis name - I have kubuntu in czech)
[09:20] <Ash-Fox> !cz
[09:20] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> Ash-Fox: that's where it went to I got here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/aros/
[09:21] <crazy_penguin> Good evening to everyone!
[09:22] <Ash-Fox> TheGateKeeper, okay?
[09:22] <theresa> jende_: irgendwie kann ich dir keine pm schicken :(
[09:22] <Ash-Fox> I'm just really infuriated at how it's down, every single time I need todo things in a hurry.
[09:23] <TheGateKeeper> here to: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=43586&package_id=194077
[09:23] <Frederick> folks does anyone here uses lib devil?
[09:23] <Ash-Fox> TheGateKeeper the nighties aren't stored there.
[09:24] <TheGateKeeper> Ash-Fox: can't blame me for trying, sorry can't help you any further
[09:25] <Ash-Fox> TheGateKeeper, I'm not blaming you. I'm just annoyed at the fact that SF is down partially.
[09:25] <paul__> How do I change the default player for mp3,,,,?  basically I  want vlc to open instead of amorak when I click a mp3
[09:25] <LjL> SF is down? wow. that never happens. </sarcasm>
[09:26] <LjL> paul__: right click on an MP3 file, "Open with", "Other", select the application, and chose the option to make it stick
[09:26] <TheGateKeeper> Ash-Fox:  is life I'm affraid, bit sad they don't have a suitable mirror
[09:26] <RawSewage_> how can I throttle the speed with KLibido
[09:26] <LjL> TheGateKeeper: www.aros-exec.org is not a mirror, but has useful pointers
[09:27] <paul__> LjL: thnx
[09:30] <paul__> If I sudo Kate I get a lot of error info in teminal window but kate then opens and seems to work normal, is this Normal?
[09:30] <lupine_85> use kdesu instead
[09:30] <paul__> same error
[09:30] <lupine_85> but yes, you'll get some errors - it's not a big deal
[09:31] <paul__> -->kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
[09:31] <paul__> so its safe to ignore ?
[09:33] <TheGateKeeper> paul__: use Run Command to start kate & other gui apps use kdesu kate if you want to use it as root
[09:34] <paul__> TheGateKeeper: gotcha thnx
[09:34] <TheGateKeeper> np :-)
[09:37] <RawSewage_> how can I throttle the speed with KLibido
[09:40] <grayeul> I'm having an install problem with EdgyBeta..... anyone listening?
[09:40] <zorglu_> !kbuildsyscoca
[09:40] <ubotu> kmenu_update is If your kmenu is out of date, like after installing an application and not founding it in kmenu, you should type "kbuildsyscoca" in a terminal to update it. It will rebuild the kde configuration cache.
[09:40] <Blacken> grayeul: #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <grayeul> Blacken: Thanks... will give a try
[09:46] <paulo> hello all
[09:48] <paulo> can i have some ssh help please?
[09:49] <grayeul> paulo: what is ssh issue?
[09:49] <paulo> cannot connect!
[09:50] <paulo> if i do [ssh -p 443 localhost]  it works fine
[09:50] <grayeul> paulo:  Are you trying to connect to a remote machine?  Can you ping it?
[09:50] <paulo> but if i ssh to a unix box and try ssh back into mine i get a time out
[09:50] <User_linux> Kubuntu is crazy, Im seeing 4 kubuntuns to choose from in grub
[09:51] <zorglu_> paulo: check the firewall and/or port forwarding
[09:51] <paulo> User_linux: a new one is normally added when you run a update
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm i'm not getting working sound on flash 9 b, anyone know a work around?
[09:51] <paulo> zorglu_: it ain't that, i could do it on the default port earlier this week
[09:52] <grayeul> paulo:  Could come back in to your own machine?  And now you can't ?
[09:52] <zorglu_> paulo, wanna bet ? :)
[09:52] <zorglu_> paulo: the other possibility is the dns
[09:52] <paulo> zorglu_: yeah how much?
[09:53] <grayeul> paulo: Actually there are probably a lot of possibilities... we don't have much info yet
[09:53] <zorglu_> paulo: ok lets try :)
[09:53] <paulo> grayeul: what would you like to know
[09:53] <zorglu_> paulo: are you connected to the remote box right now ?
[09:53] <paulo> zorglu_: it is my PC
[09:53] <zorglu_> paulo: ok lets put name to make it easier
[09:53] <paulo> zorglu_: and to test it i ssh out and try ssh back in
[09:54] <User_linux> i think Ive broken Adept. Its not loading anymore
[09:54] <zorglu_> paulo: what is the hostname for the box on which [ssh -p 443 localhost]  it works fine
[09:54] <grayeul> paulo: 1) What changed since it last worked? 2) are you behind firewall?
[09:54] <paulo> hemlock
[09:55] <zorglu_> paulo: ok you have a remote box no ? what is the hostname of the box on which 'ssh back' timeout
[09:55] <paulo> grayeul: 1) port changed to 443 2) no
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> are there any cli editors that use the standard gui text editor hotkey for things like undo, redo, selecting text holding the shift key & using the cursor & that sort of stuff?
[09:55] <zorglu_> paulo: hemlock is not a fully qualified hostname, what is the full one
[09:55] <zorglu_> paulo: like hemlock.blabla.org
[09:55] <User_linux> How do I add repositorties do kubuntu?? I need a repository that has opera and azureus
[09:55] <paulo> zorglu_: i don't understand
[09:56] <zorglu_> paulo: ok what is the command you type when you 'ssh back' ?
[09:56] <paulo> zorglu_: ssh -p 443 paulo@myipaddress
[09:57] <grayeul> paulo: If you changed ports (and it works with localhost), have you checked/changed iptables (if running)?
[09:57] <BluesKaj> lost my windows network printer access ! :(
[09:57] <zorglu_> paulo: aware that 443 is https ? why using this for ssh ?
[09:57] <paulo> grayeul: no i did not
[09:58] <paulo> zorglu_: to access my PC from work :P
[09:58] <zorglu_> i bet isp blocks 443 :)
[09:58] <paulo> zorglu_: maybe but i can ssh into my mates freebsd machine on 443
[09:59] <zorglu_> paulo: ok what is your ip address
[09:59] <paulo> how can i check iptables
[09:59] <grayeul> paulo: /sbin/iptables -L
[09:59] <grayeul> paulo: (as root)
[09:59] <paul__> Can i do  a remote desktop connection  to kubuntu box from windows machine?
[09:59] <zorglu_> paul__: yes, using vnc or freenx
[10:00] <zorglu_> !kbrc
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <zorglu_> is it the one
[10:00] <zorglu_> no
[10:00] <zorglu_> ok i lost paulo :)
[10:00] <zorglu_> paul__: what do you want to get the desktop of window from kubuntu, or vice versa ?
[10:01] <paul__> connet to kubuntu from window box
[10:01] <paulo> emmm theres alot to go through in ip tables -- i'll try | grep 443 after it
[10:01] <User_linux> where is the graphical repository list editor in kubuntu??
[10:01] <zorglu_> !info httptunnel
[10:01] <ubotu> httptunnel: Tunnels a data stream in HTTP requests.. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3-2 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[10:01] <grayeul> zorglu_: his IP is: 83.147.165.8
[10:02] <paulo> yeah it is... sorry i didn't answer your que
[10:02] <paulo> paul__: try ssh using putty on the windows box
[10:02] <paulo> paul__: but that what i'm having issues with
[10:02] <zorglu_> ok there is a firewall between me and this address
[10:03] <zorglu_> with 22 open
[10:03] <paulo> heh?
[10:03] <grayeul> paulo: I think it (443) is being blocked.
[10:03] <zorglu_> aka it is a firewall issue, paulo now pays :)
[10:03] <paul__> yah I use putty but would like a graphical desktop if possible
[10:03] <zorglu_> paul__: ok looking
[10:04] <paulo> ok guys how do i unblock?
[10:04] <grayeul> OK -- showing my ignorance of ubuntu now (still trying it get it installed), but on RedHat/Fedora iptables is controlled via /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[10:04] <paulo> coz 443 should be fine as its apache secure port
[10:04] <paul__> does kubuntu rdc work same as windows if connecting to windows box?
[10:04] <zorglu_> paul__: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/krdc/index.html
[10:05] <paul__> thnx looking now
[10:05] <grayeul> paulo:  At least as a temporary fix, you could simple stop iptables from running.
[10:05] <grayeul> (just to see if it helps)
[10:05] <zorglu_> paul__: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=434464 <- to know some possible window client
[10:06] <grayeul> paulo:  Do you have a /etc/init.d/iptables file?  or is this also too 'redhat'?
[10:06] <prophit> wondering why i cant mount to my second hard drive
[10:06] <zorglu_> paulo: try "sudo iptables -F" it will disable the local firewall
[10:06] <prophit> says cant find it in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[10:07] <paulo> zorglu_: isn't that a bad idea?
[10:07] <zorglu_> paulo: nope. dont worry it is not permanent
[10:07] <prophit> anyone know how to solve this problem
[10:08] <zorglu_> !ntfs
[10:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:08] <paulo> zorglu_: ok
[10:08] <zorglu_> prophit: see if this help
[10:08] <grayeul> zorglu_: What is the ubuntu way to start it back up?
[10:08] <zorglu_> here we go :)
[10:08] <paulo> zorglu_: ok so its iptables, thank you for finding out it was that
[10:08] <zorglu_> paulo: how much did we bet already ? :) :)
[10:08] <paulo> hehe
[10:09] <paulo> zorglu_: i can pay you in files
[10:09] <zorglu_> grayeul: dunno, need to install some firewall software to make it easy
[10:09] <paulo> lol
[10:09] <zorglu_> !firewall
[10:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[10:09] <paulo> zorglu_: how do i turn back on iptables
[10:09] <zorglu_> arg not a good one, to say the least
[10:09] <grayeul> zorglu_: so does ubuntu have the /etc/init.d type initialization?
[10:10] <grayeul> paulo: Do you have a /etc/init.d/iptables file?
[10:10] <paulo> grayeul: nope
[10:10] <zorglu_> grayeul: yep it does, more like system v, /etc/init.d/apaches2 restart for example
[10:11] <zorglu_> !info guarddog
[10:11] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[10:11] <grayeul> well, it sounds like he is missing /etc/init.d/iptables --- or you could just call that with a start argument.
[10:11] <zorglu_> paulo: install this one, it is a gui to setup the iptables
[10:11] <zorglu_> sudo apt-get install guarddog
[10:12] <grayeul> paulo: something must have started the iptables when you booted.... but since no one here has been able to help me get kubuntu installed, I can't help you :-)
[10:12] <paulo> grayeul: what issue you having during the install?
[10:13] <prophit> thank you the script worked
[10:13] <zorglu_> ny pleasure
[10:13] <grayeul> paulo:  I can boot/run the Live CD, but when I click on the desktop icon for install, it runs for a while "copying files", and then when it switches to begin install -- system locks up.
[10:13] <zorglu_> grayeul: have you checked the cd ? and which version do you try to installl
[10:13] <paulo> grayeul: did you do a media check before the install?
[10:14] <grayeul> This is on a new laptop (Dell M65) EdgyBeta
[10:14] <grayeul> I'm not sure if I completed a media check or not... but the basic bootup went OK.
[10:14] <zorglu_> the help for edgy focus in #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <zorglu_> check the cd to be sure
[10:15] <grayeul> zorglu_: Yes, I was directed there and asked -- but got no real response, then switched back here to help paulo with ssh
[10:15] <zorglu_> ah ok :)\
[10:15] <grayeul> I'll check the CD (while I'm downloading EdgeEft-RC1)
[10:15] <paulo> zorglu_: how do i start iptables again?
[10:15] <zorglu_> paulo: you install guarddog
[10:15] <zorglu_> and config them with it
[10:16] <paulo> zorglu_: this has been done and guarddog is open as sudo
[10:16] <grayeul> paulo: I would think that something in /etc/init.d started it before... try grepping files in /etc/init.d for iptables
[10:17] <paulo> okok it is back, zorglu_which tab in guarddog do i use to get 443 going
[10:17] <User_linux> http://www.kubuntu-br.org/node/6 I copied and pasted this over sources.list, now Adept doesnt work. IT wont open. What do I do?
[10:17] <zorglu_> paulo: once you configured it according to your need, exit. and do "iptables -L" to see if it is enable
[10:17] <paulo> |synaptic
[10:17] <paulo> !synaptic
[10:17] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:17] <grayeul> zorglu_,paulo: We should have had you save the output of iptables -L before....
[10:17] <zorglu_> !adept crash fix
[10:17] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:17] <paulo> User_linux: try the above link instead, synaptic is better
[10:18] <zorglu_> User_linux: the ubotu message was for you
[10:19] <paulo> zorglu_: is it in user defined protocols part?
[10:19] <User_linux> fixed
[10:19] <zorglu_> User_linux: and try a "apt-get update" to see if it reports error
[10:19] <User_linux> Ive forgot a D in DEB first line
[10:19] <User_linux> but the list is quite empty,
[10:19] <zorglu_> paulo: protocol -> interactive session -> ssh
[10:19] <User_linux> where is all goodies to install?
[10:20] <zorglu_> oh no you want special port
[10:20] <zorglu_> User_linux: if apt-get update worked ok, relaunch adept and have fun
[10:20] <paulo> zorglu_: yes!
[10:20] <zorglu_> paulo: ok so this is advanced -> user defined protocol
[10:20] <User_linux> ok, sudo apt-get update returned some errors at the end
[10:21] <zorglu_> paulo: tcp/443
[10:21] <User_linux> something about keys or signatures
[10:21] <zorglu_> User_linux: added the key from the url ?
[10:22] <paulo> help
[10:22] <User_linux> no
[10:22] <User_linux> im adding them now
[10:22] <zorglu_> ok
[10:23] <paulo> zorglu_: now when i try to ssh to a machine i get "Name or service not known"
[10:23] <User_linux> Its weird. When you are a windows user everything is automatic, then you go linux and not everything is automatic, you need to put your hand on some files and configs to get it working
[10:23] <zorglu_> User_linux: yep, we are working on that :)
[10:24] <fdoving> User_linux: it's also weird, when you get to know linux, you see how much more automatic linux can be, than windows :)
[10:24] <grayeul> zorglu_: If I select media check on boot, and then when I look back over (later) it has booted all the way to desktop, does that mean it successfully did check?
[10:24] <zorglu_> grayeul: i dunno... but clearly seems weird to me
[10:24] <grayeul> paulo: Sounds like you don't have DNS... can you ping the host?
[10:25] <zorglu_> fdoving: can you confirm what grayeul said ?
[10:25] <paulo> not any more
[10:25] <User_linux> still empty
[10:25] <paulo> zorglu_:  not any more
[10:25] <grayeul> zorglu_: EdgyRC is 68% downloaded... will try when finished.
[10:25] <grayeul> paulo: At least you didn't lose your IRC connection :)
[10:25] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[10:26] <grayeul> paulo: Did you ever check /etc/init.d for iptables references (grep)?
[10:26] <paulo> grayeul: thankfully
[10:26] <User_linux> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg I ran this but im still seeing errors about signaturs at the end of apt-get update
[10:26] <paulo> grayeul: the file does not exist
[10:26] <grayeul> paulo: Don't close it or you won't get it back without reboot.
[10:26] <paulo> help please
[10:26] <zorglu_> User_linux: there are 4 commands, this wget is only the first :)
[10:26] <grayeul> paulo: I know the file isn't there... did you try grep iptables /etc/init.d/*
[10:26] <paulo> i hate messing with firewall
[10:27] <m_tadeu> does anyone know how to change the color of the grub selected item? its all black after installing kubuntu-artwork stuff
[10:27] <User_linux> I ran all 4
[10:27] <fdoving> zorglu_: sounds like it was successfull. The general idea is that things that work out OK are quiet. When they get problems they tell you.
[10:27] <User_linux> but two are returning errors
[10:27] <paulo> GreyStar: i ran that command
[10:28] <paulo> grayeul: i ran that command
[10:28] <User_linux> the second one is returning "not found"
[10:28] <zorglu_> fdoving: hmm not a good idea for explicit check like media check, in my opinion
[10:28] <slow-motion> re
[10:28] <grayeul> paulo: I'm guessing you didn't see anything.... which begs the question, what started up iptables when you booted?
[10:28] <paulo> can i get some help please? since this guarddog thing i cannot ssh or ping
[10:29] <zorglu_> User_linux: ok lets do it steps by steps
[10:29] <User_linux> Hmmm
[10:29] <grayeul> paulo: What does /etc/resolv.conf say?
[10:29] <User_linux> with Sudo it returned OK
[10:29] <zorglu_> User_linux: ah ok
[10:29] <morghanphoenix> Okay, how do I delete the contents of "recycled" on an external hard drive? It came from windows and it's starting to piss me off just a bit.
[10:29] <fdoving> zorglu_: it's stupid if you for example run a server, that you will have to run the check, wait for it to say it finished successfully, click OK, and -then- it will boot. Instead of just booting when it's finished.
[10:29] <zorglu_> User_linux: now do 'sudo apt-ket list' and check you see the just added key
[10:29] <morghanphoenix> user - root
[10:29] <intelikey> GreyStar firestarter ?
[10:30] <User_linux> list is not a valid operator
[10:30] <paulo> grayeul: it has 3 nameserver lines
[10:30] <zorglu_> fdoving: yep, but this happen if and only if you explicitlty asked for a media check
[10:30] <grayeul> paulo:Can you ping any of them?  They should be numeric, right?
[10:30] <intelikey> morghanphoenix sudo rm -r /path
[10:30] <morghanphoenix> dr-xr-xr-x for the rest of the drive. drwxr-xr-x for recycled
[10:31] <morghanphoenix> says it's unable to
[10:31] <zorglu_> fdoving: in fact, what disturb me is that 'if the software doing the check fails or anything, i wont know it'
[10:31] <morghanphoenix> I've tried that allread, unable for all files in the -r
[10:31] <paulo> grayeul: i get operation not permitted
[10:31] <User_linux> !
[10:31] <zorglu_> fdoving: aka me as a user i have to trust the software is unbugged and that nobody made mistake :)
[10:31] <grayeul> paulo:  ??? on a ping?
[10:31] <paulo> yes
[10:31] <User_linux> No errors after sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <fdoving> zorglu_: maybe it sends you a mail about the result or something. don't know for sure. i still think it's a good idea to continue booting. it's what I expect. Filesystem checks was common on ext2, and they never stopped telling you everything were OK.
[10:32] <zorglu_> User_linux: ok cool
[10:32] <User_linux> I guess, I re ran all 4 lines with sudo and now update worked
[10:32] <morghanphoenix> operation not permitted for removing the path
[10:32] <grayeul> paulo: You could try the /sbin/iptables -F again.... that should get you back (albeit with no firewall)
[10:32] <paulo> its things like this that frustrate me about linux
[10:32] <User_linux> hmmm
[10:32] <zorglu_> fdoving: yep but only when done automatically :) not when it is explicitly asked
[10:33] <grayeul> paulo: Linux can be dangerous (as anything powerful can be), but it gives you great flexibility
[10:33] <User_linux> Adept is listing KDE packages, nothing else, where are the commercial or non KDE apackages?
[10:33] <intelikey> morghanphoenix is there a windows machine using that drive ?
[10:33] <zorglu_> fdoving: but it is ok, no need to argue, i can live with this
[10:33] <morghanphoenix> everything from linux works great for me, it's just this damn windows drive.
[10:33] <morghanphoenix> Not anymore
[10:33] <fdoving> zorglu_: 'run filesystem check automatically at next boot' isn't that what is asked?
[10:33] <morghanphoenix> It was on the windows machine
[10:33] <User_linux> Checked show unsupported and commercial, lets see
[10:34] <fdoving> zorglu_: I get your point though. :)
[10:34] <User_linux> oh yeahs, now I see azureus
[10:34] <jende_> howdy
[10:34] <zorglu_> fdoving: ok when i meant being asked, i mean explicitly asked by a human in front of the box :)
[10:34] <zorglu_> fdoving: aka a human who want to know the result of the check :)
[10:35] <megamasterx> Uhm, I need some help.
[10:35] <megamasterx> My monitor's resolution isn't going up
[10:35] <intelikey> morghanphoenix copy out all the stuff you want to keep and change it to an ext# file system  put back what you want on it.   ntfs is not "officially supported by linux"
[10:35] <morghanphoenix> fat32
[10:35] <zorglu_> !resolution
[10:35] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:35] <User_linux> am I admin or something? Whenever I open Adept it asks me for my own user password
[10:35] <megamasterx> it doens't have any other options in display settings, and when I click administrator mode button it doesn't ask me for a password
[10:35] <jende_> fdoving: howdy
[10:35] <fdoving> hi jende_.
[10:35] <jende_> morghanphoenix: howdy
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> intelikey it's fat32
[10:36] <jende_> fdoving: how are things going?
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> ello jende
[10:36] <zorglu_> User_linux: yep it is normal. each time you type the passwd you become admin
[10:36] <morghanphoenix> Got the drive to mount, now I can't get rid of the windows recycled path
[10:36] <fdoving> jende_: fine, and you?
[10:36] <megamasterx> why isn't it promting me for my root password
[10:37] <jende_> fdoving: I am okay, even it's getting late, but yes I'm fine
[10:37] <morghanphoenix> and it won't let me change permissions while the windows path is on my drive
[10:37] <intelikey> morghanphoenix if it's vfat and you cant remove something that tells me one of two things is up.  either something is accessing what you are trying to rm    or the fs is hosed and you are about to have major problems.    probably the former.
[10:37] <grayeul> paulo: Any luck?
[10:37] <morghanphoenix> Nothing accessing it, unless it's still connected to the windows box in it's mind
[10:38] <intelikey> morghanphoenix you can't change permissions on vfat  it has none.
[10:38] <User_linux> hmmmm
[10:38] <morghanphoenix> it's owner is user name - root
[10:38] <User_linux> no opera rbowser in the repository that I ve just added
[10:38] <jende_> megamasterx: has your monitor been recognized during the installation?
[10:38] <intelikey> yeah.
[10:38] <megamasterx> Jende: yea
[10:38] <megamasterx> This happened when I changed it last.
[10:39] <zorglu_> User_linux: you need commercial one
[10:39] <jende_> megamasterx: what have you changed?
[10:39] <morghanphoenix> I can't add or remove files.
[10:39] <User_linux> oh I see
[10:39] <User_linux> im using a Universal one
[10:40] <morghanphoenix> It says operation not permitted.
[10:40] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a76 <- User_linux
[10:40] <instructor> Interesting Radio station
[10:40] <zorglu_> !repo
[10:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:40] <instructor> It shows the next song in the playlist on song change :)
[10:40] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate harhar being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[10:40] <intelikey> morghanphoenix vfat does not support permissions bits  nor ownership bits  what you see as owner and perms is all a vertual bit set by the mount command.  man mount
[10:40] <megamasterx> I changed my resolution
[10:40] <zorglu_> User_linux: this is to get an idea of what are repository and how they are organized
[10:41] <User_linux> I was using mandriva hours ago, but sice it's package manager didnt like me, I have it replaced by kubuntu
[10:41] <morghanphoenix> it auto mounted, shouldn't it be accessable to me then?
[10:41] <intelikey> morghanphoenix no
[10:41] <instructor> intelikey:
[10:41] <instructor> Don't run :)
[10:42] <jende_> megamasterx: where have you changed the resolution just in KDE or in the systemfile itself?
[10:42] <morghanphoenix> /dev/sda1 on /media/PHOENIX type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)
[10:42] <morghanphoenix> root@home:/media/PHOENIX#
[10:43] <morghanphoenix> do I need to unmount this and mount it manually?
[10:43] <megamasterx> Much better.
[10:43] <megamasterx> reconfigured
[10:43] <instructor> Hmm Any one wanna help with a X vidcard issue?
[10:44] <User_linux> oh noes
[10:44] <intelikey> morghanphoenix in the console do this.   (first close all other windows that might be accessing that drive.) type "mount"  and note the device and mountpoint of that drive. then.    sudo umount /media/<where.ever.its.mounted> && sudo mount /dev/<device> </mount/point> -o umask=0
[10:44] <jende_> MegaMasterX: so you reconfigures xorg?xserver?xfree86?
[10:44] <User_linux> Im installing JAva, but the installer is stuck, im seeing a DOS PRompt with an OK button that I cannot press
[10:44] <MegaMasterX> Xorg
[10:45] <intelikey> morghanphoenix inturpret everything within <>
[10:45] <instructor> 0:0 is going to a new video card :(
[10:45] <morghanphoenix> sudo: unmount: command not found
[10:45] <jende_> #debian
[10:45] <intelikey> morghanphoenix why are you posting your typos ?
[10:46] <intelikey> we all make them.  from time to time.
[10:46] <morghanphoenix> typo?
[10:46] <intelikey> yep.
[10:47] <morghanphoenix> sudo unmount /media/PHOENIX?
[10:47] <intelikey> i didn't say "unmount"  there is no such command.  i said "umount"   you typo'd it.
[10:47] <morghanphoenix> ah
[10:48] <morghanphoenix> sorry
[10:48] <intelikey> typo=typographical error   generally transpositions but also often insertions and/or deletions
[10:49] <jende_> megamas
[10:49] <intelikey> typo might be also called  typing evolution    it's almost always deadly to a command.
[10:50] <morghanphoenix> wrong fs type, where does the vfat go?
[10:50] <intelikey> it doesnt
[10:50] <intelikey> you don't see it in what i said do
[10:50] <morghanphoenix> it's telling me wrong fs type
[10:51] <intelikey> sudo umount /media/<where.ever.its.mounted> && sudo mount /dev/<device> </mount/point> -o umask=0
[10:51] <morghanphoenix> used sudo
[10:51] <morghanphoenix> It's unmounted
[10:51] <sorush20> hi, I'm not sure what is going on with my kde usb devices its not auto mounting.. on lsusb the storage device is there but there is not automount
[10:51] <intelikey> mount device mountpoint -o umask=0
[10:51] <sorush20> any help people/
[10:52] <intelikey> mount <device> <mountpoint> -o umask=0
[10:52] <morghanphoenix> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ext-hdd -o unmask=0
[10:52] <User_linux> ...
[10:52] <morghanphoenix> right?
[10:52] <intelikey> looks good
[10:52] <sorush20> intelikey: how do i find out what device it is registered as I think it was sda1 or sda
[10:52] <intelikey> assuming /mnt/ext-hdd exists
[10:52] <Lam_> azureus or ktorrent?
[10:53] <morghanphoenix> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1. missing codepage or other error.
[10:53] <jende_> sorush20: mount
[10:53] <morghanphoenix> The mount point is there, I just made it and double checked.
[10:53] <sorush20> Lam_: depends , lots more features in azureus
[10:53] <intelikey> sorush20 usb devices are generally /dev/sd?
[10:53] <Lam_> sorush20: ok thanks
[10:54] <jende_> sorush20: I guess it is/was sda1
[10:54] <pastelborracho> se me lee?
[10:54] <sorush20> jende_: niether is mountable..
[10:54] <morghanphoenix> it's was at sda1 when I unmounted it, it's always at sda1.
[10:54] <intelikey> sorush20 if it's a usb disk or any veriant there of   sudo fdisk -l    might be productive.
[10:55] <jende_> intelikey: ;-) just had the same idea re sorish20 ;-)
[10:55] <morghanphoenix>  /dev/sda1               1        9728    78140128+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[10:55] <morghanphoenix> That's the output
[10:56] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ext-hdd -o umask=0
[10:56] <sorush20> the point is the automount fails on occasions and I don't think I have time to debug what is the problemm could be one of my other usb devices
[10:56] <sorush20> I managed to do it manually...
[10:56] <sorush20> but auto is better
[10:57] <jende_> sorush20: ;-)
[10:57] <rafa> alguna
[10:58] <rafa> linuxera
[10:58] <rafa> es que si las cosas me la esplica una mujer
[10:58] <rafa> pues que me entero mejor
[10:58] <rafa> jejej
[10:58] <zorglu_> !es
[10:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:58] <morghanphoenix> Okay, it's mounted, as root and I can't access it.
[10:58] <Lechero> rafa: esto es un canal en ingles, y solo hay geeks tios
[10:58] <rafa> y un lechero no??
[10:58] <intelikey> with umask=0 you can't access it.   bull crap
[10:59] <morghanphoenix> no crap
[10:59] <rafa> hello
[10:59] <morghanphoenix> I can see it, but can't alter anything
[10:59] <administrador> I made two logins, one is not working
[10:59] <intelikey> morghanphoenix pastebin the output of     mount
[11:00] <morghanphoenix> Owner: root - root Permissions: drwxrwxrwx
[11:00] <morghanphoenix> okay
[11:00] <jende_> sorush20: assuing that it works in Kubuntu as like as I did it with my debian box here is how to get your USB automounted
[11:00] <morghanphoenix> !pastebin
[11:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:00] <intelikey> Permissions: drwxrwxrwx   duh  that's umask=0
[11:01] <morghanphoenix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27557/
[11:01] <jende_> sorush20: I used that howto http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127
[11:01] <jende_> sorush20: maybe that helps
[11:02] <intelikey> and you are telling me that you cant access/change anything on    12. /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ext-hdd type vfat (rw,umask=0)   ????
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> can't make new dirs, can't delete files or remove dirs
[11:02] <morghanphoenix> nothing at all
[11:02] <brainwashed> anyone had success mounting stuff with the gmailf package in universe?
[11:03] <intelikey> for a nickle i'd sujest rm -fr /mnt/ext-hdd/*     and see if it changes anything..... but i try to not be malicious....
[11:04] <morghanphoenix> what does that do?
[11:04] <jende_> sorush20: so, do you think that'll help?
[11:05] <morghanphoenix> I'm a bit leary of *s
[11:05] <intelikey> morghanphoenix do this in a konsole,  mkdir /mnt/ext-hdd/testing_the_file_system ; ls /mnt/ext-hdd
[11:06] <intelikey> morghanphoenix what rm does is deletes/remover  rm=remove cp=copy mv=move ls=list
[11:06] <morghanphoenix> read only file system
[11:06] <VIKI> im running apt-get upgrade, what is it upgrading? I saw KDE and java
[11:07] <intelikey> how can it be a readonly fs if mounted rw ????
[11:07] <morghanphoenix> shouldn't be read only
[11:07] <intelikey>  12. /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ext-hdd type vfat (rw,umask=0)
[11:07] <Lechero> VIKI: is it upgrading all the packages that need to be upgraded
[11:08] <morghanphoenix> it says rw, but when I try to alter it in any way it says read only
[11:08] <morghanphoenix> fresh output from mount: /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ext-hdd type vfat (rw,umask=0)
[11:09] <intelikey> it's still possable that the fs is hosed and about to give major data loss
[11:09] <VIKI> I was installing java using Adept. But then Java prompted me to click OK, but the button was unclickable, it was inside Adept window. I just forced a kill to close it.
[11:09] <morghanphoenix> I just bought the thing
[11:09] <jende_> VIKI: what if you try to install Java from the console?
[11:09] <morghanphoenix> It's about two months old
[11:09] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to know of a way I can enable backing store for a specific window only?
[11:10] <morghanphoenix> made one backup and that's it
[11:10] <jende_> JosefK: Howdy ;-)
[11:10] <intelikey> umount it and  sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[11:10] <VIKI> Adpt-get is installing java I guess
[11:10] <VIKI> noooooooooooo...........
[11:10] <jende_> VIKI: so, here we go
[11:11] <VIKI> its downloading Koffice libs, I dont wanna install Koffice
[11:11] <jende_> VIKI: ooops...what's the output
[11:11] <VIKI> koffice-data
[11:11] <jende_> VIKI: do you need just the JRE?
[11:11] <VIKI> yes
[11:11] <morghanphoenix> differences between boot sector and its backup offset:original/backup 65:01/00, 67:ef/25, 68:61/29, 69:ff/e7, 70:fb/15
[11:12] <jende_> VIKI: gimme a seec
[11:12] <morghanphoenix> asks me if I want to copy orig to backup or backup to orig.
[11:13] <intelikey> so it is the fs waced out....
[11:13] <morghanphoenix> should I copy one, if so which way?
[11:13] <jende_> VIKI: how did you try to install the jre?
[11:13] <intelikey> that's right.
[11:14] <jhutchins_wk> swapon and mkfs swap return "Invalid block count" for my swap partition.  What can I do?  I've deleted and re-created it.
[11:14] <jende_> VIKI: sudo apt-get install <what>
[11:14] <VIKI> Adept -> search java -> select -> apply. At 28% the a DOS like message with an OK button showed up, I couldnt click it, then I closed Adept
[11:15] <jende_> VIKI: sudo apt-get install <what>
[11:15] <hammer> !dv
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <jende_> VIKI: sudo apt-get install <what>???
[11:16] <Hawkwind> Hah
[11:16] <jende_> Hawkwind: am I wrong?
[11:16] <Hawkwind> jende_: Absolutely not
[11:16] <jende_> Hawkwind: puuuh...;-)
[11:16] <dvayanu> hello
[11:17] <dvayanu> is there a chance to get a working mozilla for edge amd64?
[11:17] <morghanphoenix> okay, if the fs is screwed how do I fix it? I still need it to be compatabile with windows computers.
[11:17] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: You mean mozilla the webbrowser ?
[11:17] <Ash-Fox> seamonkey?
[11:17] <morghanphoenix> I don't think ext3 is, that's what my hard mounts are.
[11:17] <dvayanu> hawkwind: yes. mozilla-browser package
[11:17] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: There should be one by default
[11:17] <jende_> !mozilla
[11:18] <ubotu> mozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[11:18] <Ash-Fox> !seamonkey
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <Hawkwind> !info mozilla edgy
[11:18] <ubotu> mozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[11:18] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: He wants Mozilla, not seamonkey
[11:18] <dvayanu> there is one, it just doesn't run
[11:18] <dvayanu> segfault
[11:18] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: Define *doesn't run*
[11:18] <jende_> VIKI: would be just nice if you would answer
[11:18] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: Run it from a terminal and put any errors into http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[11:18] <VIKI> nvm
[11:18] <VIKI> the atp-get finished downloading all upgrades
[11:19] <jende_> VIKI: no errors?
[11:19] <VIKI> its installing java, the OK button showed again, but since I was in konsole, I was able to click it
[11:19] <dvayanu> hawkwind: no errors, just Segmentation fault
[11:19] <VIKI> uinstalling is the same as installing?
[11:19] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: Do this:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old as normal user, then try and start mozilla
[11:20] <VIKI> to uinstall a package I simple to in adept and uncheck it?
[11:20] <jende_> VIKI: to uninstall use: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[11:20] <Hawkwind> VIKI: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[11:20] <VIKI> done
[11:20] <jende_> Hawkwind: hehe
[11:20] <VIKI> jre showed up
[11:20] <dvayanu> hawkkind: thanx
[11:20] <jende_> VIKI: well done, prob solved
[11:21] <xabi> hey, anyone here knows of a good tutorial on C++ sockets (Under linux of course) :)
[11:21] <dvayanu> hawkwind: stupid me! i copied my home from my 32bit dapper
[11:21] <VIKI> no
[11:21] <VIKI> I m in a site that requires java to load an applet, but the java applet is missing
[11:22] <dvayanu> hawkwind: moving on, is there a chance to get flashplayer working or a java plugin? jdk1.5.09 64 doesn't have a plugin :-(
[11:22] <jende_> xabi: maybe that site yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialC++.html -
[11:22] <jende_> xabi: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialC++.html
[11:23] <jende_> VIKI: which browser?which site?
[11:23] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: You need to isntall the 32bit versions of flash and java to get them to work
[11:23] <VIKI> Firefox
[11:23] <jende_> VIKI: site?
[11:23] <VIKI> the java irc plugin
[11:23] <VIKI> for web irc sessions
[11:23] <dvayanu> hawkwind: hmm, can 64bit firefox work with 32bit java plugin?
[11:24] <jende_> VIKI: which firefox?
[11:24] <VIKI> 1.0.5.0.7
[11:24] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: That I don't know.  You could install the 32bit firefox if need be
[11:24] <xabi> thx jende_ but no luck :(
[11:24] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:25] <dvayanu> hawkwind: and for flashplayer: install_flash_player_7_linux$ ./flashplayer-installer ->
[11:25] <xabi> wtf?
[11:25] <jende_> VIKI: have you had a look here: https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?q=java&app=firefox
[11:25] <VIKI> Sun java 5.0 webstart
[11:25] <pointwood> okay, I get an error when running dist-upgrade (to edgy from dapper), I get dialog box named Debconf on marvin (marvin is the name of my pc): Incorrect nice value. Please enter a an integer between -20 and 20. I understand that quite well, but there is no place to enter a value :(
[11:25] <dvayanu> hawkwind: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by theMacromedia Flash Player installer.
[11:25] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:26] <jende_> VIKI: your firefoy is also, AFAIK, quite old
[11:26] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:26] <xabi> rawrness: that's called flooding <_<
[11:27] <rawrness> My apologys
[11:27] <xabi> np
[11:27] <rawrness> not only that it is stuck in my head
[11:28] <rawrness>  http://rj.selfip.com/pirate.swf
[11:28] <dvayanu> hawkwind: however, thanx you very much for the help with mozilla
[11:28] <jende_> VIKI: you'll be sent to here http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
[11:29] <Lechero> rawrness: nice video :)
[11:29] <rawrness> it was stolen off us imaginations pirate policy
[11:30] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: You can install a 32bit version though.  Most everyone here who runs a 64bit machine does just that
[11:30] <jende_> dvayanu: try that site for the latest flashplayer http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:31] <Lechero> has somebody installed flash player 9 beta under kubuntu?
[11:31] <rawrness> Me.
[11:31] <Hawkwind> Lechero: Yes
[11:31] <jende_> Lechero: on edgy I have
[11:31] <Hawkwind> Lechero: Works perfectly normal here in both Dapper and Edgy
[11:31] <dvayanu> jende_ thanx
[11:32] <jende_> dvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[11:32] <jende_> dvayanu: np
[11:32] <Lechero> jende_: i am under edgy too :)
[11:32] <rawrness> i think i might upgrade to edgy
[11:32] <jende_> Lechero: so...why wont you install fp9b ?
[11:33] <Lechero> i prefer to ask here before install is it is "stable"
[11:33] <rawrness> well it is in a Rc.
[11:34] <jende_> Lechero: edgy isn't in stable as yet, so basically you can say that you mix a beta with beta
[11:34] <Lechero> edgy now is really stable i have only problem with autocomplain under konsole with tab key... is very slow. More slow than always
[11:36] <jende_> Lechero: have you done today a apt-get update and dist-upgrade?
[11:36] <Lechero> jende_: yes
[11:36] <darkaura> Hi I need help
[11:36] <VIKI> for each repository I need a key?
[11:37] <jende_> Lechero: I've done it  bout noon CET and I'm doing just now again...guess what...another 50pckgs will be updated and 2 new installed
[11:38] <jende_> Lechero: if it wouldn't be a rc you wouldn't get within 12hrs that many updates
[11:38] <pointwood> I have a dapper to edgy upgrade that fails here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27494/
[11:38] <pointwood> anyone got a suggestion to how I fix that?
[11:39] <darkaura> I know this is kubuntu chat but I need help with ubuntu, I'm not getting any answers in Ubuntu. I have a nvidia geforce go 6800 ultra, when I play full screen games like metal blob solid, it only plays on part of the screen and doesn't scale full screen
[11:39] <fdoving> pointwood: 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu5_i386.deb;sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade'
[11:39] <Azmodan> Edgy doesn't recognize my wifi card while Dapper did out of the box.  Can anyone help me with this?
[11:39] <jende_> pointwood: pastebin yoour sources.list please
[11:39] <fdoving> pointwood: the bug is reported, and it is beeing fixed. fyi. :)
[11:40] <pointwood> jende_: one moment
[11:40] <jende_> pointwood: dont have to as fdoving has gave you already the solution
[11:41] <pointwood> my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27562/
[11:41] <jende_> fdoving: it seems to be that edgy des have a wlan/wifi prob
[11:41] <jende_> fdoving: it seems to be that edgy does have a wlan/wifi prob, dont you think
[11:41] <fdoving> jende_: i don't have wifi problems in edgy. do you?
[11:41] <Azmodan> fdoving: I do!
[11:42] <dylan_> what exactly does the swap partition do?
[11:42] <fdoving> Azmodan: oh, what card?
[11:42] <Azmodan> fdoving: D-Link Airplug something...
[11:42] <jende_> fdoving: I dont have a wifi, but azmodan is already the +10th reporting issues in here re wifi
[11:42] <jende_> !swap
[11:42] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[11:42] <VIKI> O_
[11:42] <jende_> dylan
[11:42] <VIKI> O_O
[11:42] <pointwood> I get the same problem as earlier - I get a Debconf dialog box saying "incorrect nice value. Please enter and integer between -20 and 20" but there is nowhere I can enter any number...
[11:43] <dylan_> i always check the system monitor and i never see any record of it being used
[11:43] <fdoving> dylan_: the linux kernel putts stuff that was initialy put into RAM on it, because it knows it doesn't change and it's not accessed frequently, so moving it to disk is smart. (or something like that, much more complex ofcourse)
[11:43] <VIKI> I download opera package in deb extension from opera site itself, its working
[11:43] <pointwood> there is a next button, but that just gives me the same dialog box again
[11:43] <dvayanu> i have the feeling i just somehow killed my firefox and got a fresh kubuntu-firefox copy... can mozilla-firefox overwrite firefox or is it the same package?
[11:43] <Lechero> i just installed flash 9 beta, now i can wath pornotube videos under kubuntu :)
[11:43] <jende_> !language
[11:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:44] <fdoving> Azmodan: the 'something' part is essential :)
[11:44] <jende_> Azmodan: the chipset might be nice to know
[11:44] <dylan_> it just seems a bit weird that it is never used
[11:44] <Azmodan> jende_: I'm under Dapper (liveCD) now, can I pluck that info out of somewhere?
[11:44] <jende_> dylan_: swap is used, most definitely
[11:45] <dylan_> would it show up in the graph for it under the system monitor?
[11:45] <jende_> Azmodan: lspci on a console should tell you details
[11:45] <pointwood> fdoving: the only thing I can do is press cancel and then it ends like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27564/
[11:45] <jende_> dylan_: nope
[11:45] <dylan_> why not?
[11:45] <Azmodan> Done, where's the paste bin?
[11:46] <jende_> !paste
[11:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:46] <jende_> pointwood: do as apt said a sudo apt-get -f install
[11:47] <Azmodan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27565/
[11:47] <pointwood> jende_: apt-get -f install what? openoffice-core?
[11:47] <jende_> pointwood: just: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:47] <fdoving> pointwood: hmm.. that's worse, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' select dialog, then run the last command i gave you, again.
[11:48] <jende_> fdoving: an atheros again
[11:48] <Azmodan> Is there a problem with atheros cards?
[11:48] <fdoving> jende_: that's madwifi then :)
[11:48] <jende_> fdoving: exactly...will you post a bug report?
[11:48] <jende_> or should I?
[11:49] <fdoving> jende_: what bug?
[11:49] <jende_> fdoving: in my opinion its a bug. Cause until the users haven't done an upgrade madwifi works fine
[11:49] <Azmodan> jende_: The wireless assistant in Edgy says it cannot find a card and quits.
[11:50] <fdoving> jende_: oh. that's bad. does the users have 'linux-restricted-modules' for the correct kernel installed?
[11:51] <Azmodan> fdoving: I was using the LiveCD, it's as "default" install as you can get.
[11:51] <jende_> fdoving: mikeeagle, AFAIK had them and it didn't work
[11:51] <fdoving> Azmodan: true.
[11:51] <Abnaxos> Hi, I just upgraded to Edgy and have a problem with guidance-power-manager.
[11:52] <Abnaxos> When I try to start it, I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27567/
[11:52] <fdoving> Azmodan: post a bug at http://bugs.ubuntu.com then.
[11:52] <Azmodan> Looks like we'll get an RC2....
[11:52] <Abnaxos> BTW: In the backtrace you can see that it thinks the AC adapter had been unplugged -- which is not true.
[11:53] <fdoving> jende_: mikeeagle was using a acx card. I have one on a old laptop, that works with edgy. did test-install on it yesterday.
[11:53] <coreymon77> oh
[11:53] <coreymon77> edgy rc is out?
[11:53] <fdoving> coreymon77: it is.
[11:53] <jende_> fdoving: true he had an acx
[11:54] <jende_> fdoving: sorry
[11:54] <coreymon77> how do i upgrade
[11:54] <jende_> coreymon77: where to?
[11:54] <shadowhywind> does anyone know if there is a way to change the graphic of the volume screen??
[11:55] <Azmodan> jende_: So I report madwifi as the offending package?
[11:55] <coreymon77> how do i upgrade toedgy
[11:55] <pointwood> fdoving: okay, that might seem to have fixed it, thx - now it asks whether I want dash installed - do I want that?
[11:55] <jende_> Azmodan: yep, I'd say so
[11:55] <fdoving> pointwood: yes, you want dash, and you also want dash to be the default /bin/sh shell, if it asks later :)
[11:55] <slow-motion> n8
[11:55] <jende_> coreymon77: hope you know that edgy isn't yet i stable
[11:56] <coreymon77> how do i do it?
[11:56] <jende_> coreymon77: and you are aware of the fact, that not stable means that you may come across some errors and stuf?
[11:57] <coreymon77> its an rc
[11:57] <theresa> edgy looks VERY sexy, well done guys on the artwork!
[11:57] <coreymon77> ive used linux for a long time
[11:57] <coreymon77> if its an rc
[11:57] <coreymon77> it should be fine
[11:57] <jende_> coreymon77: gimme a sec I'll pastebin my way
[11:57] <coreymon77> preferably through apt
[11:58] <VIKI> whats the difference between Adept and Add / Remove packages?? It seems that some packages wont show up or wont install unless I run system - Adept
[11:58] <jende_> !paste
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:58] <coreymon77> just tell me the apt command jende
[11:58] <jende_> coreymon77: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27568/
[11:59] <coreymon77> im not clueless in linuc
[11:59] <jende_> theresa: sexy...;-)
[11:59] <Azmodan> From bugs.ubuntu.com : "madwifi" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know"
[12:00] <coreymon77> i dunno
[12:00] <theresa> jende_: ja sehr sogar :)
[12:00] <coreymon77> i dont usually use dist-upgrade
[12:00] <Wikipedia-Gast90> why
[12:00] <coreymon77> ive just used install kubuntudesktop
[12:01] <coreymon77> fodving: is dist-upgrade the thing to do?
[12:01] <Wikipedia-Gast90> why
[12:01] <coreymon77> fdoving*
[12:01] <Wikipedia-Gast90> why
[12:01] <coreymon77> whatever
[12:02] <Wikipedia-Gast90> why
[12:02] <dvayanu> ok, double stupid me, as i moved away .mozilla to get mozilla working, i also killed all firefox setting, so after firefox restart it came blank :-)
[12:02] <Azmodan> jende: bugs.ubuntu.com says the package madwifi doesn't exists.
[12:03] <fdoving> Azmodan: just choose 'i don't know'
[12:03] <fdoving> Azmodan: or use 'kernel-source' then i'll be directed to the right people.
[12:04] <coreymon77> fdoving: is apt-get dist-upgrade the right way to get edgy?
[12:04] <coreymon77> or is there a better way
[12:04] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: Why are you upgrading to Edgy ?
[12:05] <fdoving> coreymon77: yes, first make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, then change /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy, then run 'sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[12:05] <coreymon77> cause its rc now
[12:05] <nicolas0265> join #ubuntu
[12:05] <coreymon77> and i upgrade when they get to rc
[12:07] <jende> Azmodan: sent the bug to madwifi
[12:07] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey. I've just installed Kubuntu on a computer, and one of my first setup steps is getting internet. The box has a wireless WG311v2 adapter, so I'm using NdisWrapper, but something seems to be blocking communication to the device
[12:07] <jende> www.madwifi.org
[12:07] <Azmodan> jende: Thanks
[12:07] <dvayanu> jende: i downloaded FP9 and linked the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, is that the right way to do it?
[12:07] <jende> dvayanu: yep
[12:08] <dvayanu> jende: doesn't work :-) the missing plugin page comes up
[12:08] <dvayanu> jende: i'm trying my favorite flash page: http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html
[12:09] <ubuntu> stop
[12:09] <jende> fdoving: the wg311 has an atheros
[12:09] <jende> fdoving: urgh
[12:09] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: Might need to go into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins instead
[12:09] <archangel_> I try to access my cd/dvd drive and get a "malformed url" error every time. Is my drive bad?
[12:10] <fdoving> archangel_: is this dapper with kde from kubuntu.org?
[12:10] <dvayanu> hawkwind: mozilla-firefox -> firefox
[12:10] <archangel_> fdoving: yes
[12:10] <fdoving> archangel_: kde 3.5.5 ?