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lapoyo11:04
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newz2000imbrandon: hey, about the server performance, it's ubuntu-it's fault. :D04:35
imbrandonheya newz200004:37
imbrandonahh ok04:37
newz2000We're in the process of moving them, but until then :(04:37
imbrandonmark commented on it too, dident know if it was in the DC or now04:37
imbrandons/now/not04:37
imbrandonright right i totaly understand04:37
newz2000what else did mark say?04:37
imbrandonhe seems to really like it, i have him in PM right now, i'll see if he has a moment to pop in04:38
imbrandona few more features like voting to get the best ones on the front page and such04:40
imbrandonbut its all very doable in short order04:40
newz2000is it a concern that it doesn't support uploading themes?04:40
newz2000Or can you do that?04:40
imbrandonshould be able to, might need a slight tweak04:41
imbrandonbut archive support with image extraction is in there,04:41
imbrandonone way was working "set"s04:41
imbrandonlike Logins / spalshs etc04:41
newz2000I saw that gallery2 supports plugins, but haven't used them myself.04:42
imbrandonyea it has TONS of plugins04:42
imbrandona few i have in use already and they are simeple to code04:42
imbrandon( if you know php but i do and afaik you do also )04:42
newz2000I also noticed that when I created my account, I didn't have the ability to add pictures to public galleries04:42
newz2000Only my personal gallery04:43
imbrandonbrb i'ma grab a soda, bac in a sec04:43
newz2000ok04:43
imbrandonright, i'll explain that in a sec04:43
imbrandonre04:45
imbrandonok the way i set it up was to work like this, anyone can make an account04:45
imbrandonand it makes a "personal" album under the community album you can upload picture or sounds to04:46
imbrandonthen under that you can make sub albums for like say splashs04:46
imbrandongdm themes etc04:46
imbrandonas far as the kubuntu / ubuntu / xubuntu etc , those were setup as restriced for "official" type teams04:47
imbrandonand artwork thats going into the distro04:47
newz2000how do people find the images that users upload into their personal album?04:47
imbrandonafter its uploaded to the user albums and commented on etc04:47
imbrandonclick on community04:47
imbrandonken has uploaded one and i umported a few from the old site04:47
imbrandonjust to kinda show it04:48
imbrandons/ken/ kwwii04:48
newz2000Cool, you've got most of my questions answered04:48
imbrandontbh at its stage right now its a drop in for the old functionality plus more04:49
newz2000Is there a way that we can make it easy for people to find stuff without having to dig? For example, what if someone wants GDM stuff... is there a way to show all of the gdm themes?04:49
imbrandonand i think we can add the rest trivialy04:49
imbrandonsure, and there is also a search ( becouse you can add metadata when uploading )04:49
newz2000That would be good... maybe we could create links down the site that are shortcuts to common searches...04:50
newz2000like gdm, wallpaper, icon themes, etc.04:50
imbrandonsure , actualy i could make top level categorys like "Community GDM" etc that all registered users could upload to04:50
imbrandonalso we can set a quota ( i arbitrarly set it to 50mb per user )04:51
imbrandonbut that can be changed on the fly04:51
imbrandonand per user or group04:51
newz2000What do you have that you'd like to see done on it before moving to art.ubuntu.com?04:53
imbrandonnot much actualy i can make all these changes on the fly without interuption trivialy04:53
newz2000How do we get the existing content into gallery?04:54
imbrandonthat is the main problem, so far i hvae had to do it by hand BUT if i could get a dump of all the images into a directory i can import them in one swoop04:54
imbrandon( my login to the main art.u.c dident work anylonger or i would have grabbed it myself )04:55
newz2000I can get you that04:56
newz2000The auc has two things I don't think you can easily import though...04:56
newz2000the name of the author and the license04:56
imbrandonyea true , i'll probable have to do that by hand04:57
imbrandongah i cant type today04:57
newz2000I wonder how many there are. That sounds tedious04:57
imbrandonbut i dont mind doing it if it means a better site hehe04:57
imbrandonsides it in theroy only has to be done once heh04:57
imbrandonyea i wonder how many too04:57
imbrandonone sec, i think i can find out04:58
newz200014704:58
imbrandonyea i could do that all by the end of the weekend ( today if i get on it hehe )04:58
newz2000backgrounds, some of those are multiple sizes of the same one04:58
imbrandon~150 isnt terrible04:58
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imbrandonyea thats one nice thing about this one, you upload the largest and it auto resizes it to 640x480 , 1024x768 etc etc etc04:59
imbrandonand makes the thumbs etc all auto, makes maint alot less04:59
newz2000You could probably rename those images something like (using http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/106 as example):04:59
newz2000Ubuntu Cloud by lukacu (by-nc-ca)05:00
imbrandonyea05:00
newz2000then batch upload them05:00
imbrandonvery true05:00
newz2000the folder with all of the images, themes and etc is 59MB.05:01
imbrandonnot too bad05:01
imbrandoni figured it would be more05:01
imbrandonthey all seem to be in http://art.ubuntu.com/images/backgrounds/ ( if its not a url rewrite )05:03
newz2000ok, in your ftp root there's a new folder called uploads that contains all the data05:03
newz2000it is a rewrite, you can download it either way (ftp or http)05:03
imbrandoncool got it05:04
imbrandonnow the main thing wll be the author and the lic notes05:04
imbrandonif i do all the importing and stuff on staging05:04
imbrandonwill it be difficult to move it05:04
imbrandon?05:04
newz2000No, shouldn't be05:05
newz2000I'll just make art.ubuntu.com an alias for this site.05:06
imbrandonok cool05:06
imbrandonoh btw OT i heard your in the midwest USA , correct ?05:07
imbrandon( i'm getting a ubuntu-midwest loco team togather )05:07
newz2000Yes, actually. Was going to talk to you about that.05:07
imbrandonhaha ;)05:07
newz2000I'm just 200 miles from you or so, in Des Moines.05:07
imbrandonoh nice05:08
newz2000Are you in KC?05:08
imbrandonyea05:08
imbrandonKC mo05:08
newz2000what is your progress on starting the loco team?05:09
imbrandonumm chatting with jono and melissa a tad and getting the irc channel ( plus some intrest from the local lug from 2 or 3 guys )05:09
imbrandonnot much more05:10
imbrandonjust thought about it a few days ago05:10
newz2000What do you do in real life?05:10
imbrandonhaha right now? nothing, since my divorce i have been looking for work , but I'm a php programer / webdesigner05:11
imbrandon( and a full time kubuntu packager atm lol )05:11
newz2000well, I plan on making a trip down to KC, but wasn't going to do that until spring.05:12
imbrandongot a divorce and moved back to my home town and the IT stuff arround here is insanely slow05:12
imbrandonnice05:12
imbrandonare you headed to mtv ?05:12
imbrandon( mountian view )05:12
newz2000no,05:12
newz2000I'm not really an ubuntu dev, so will get more done here05:13
imbrandonahh , i'll be there this time ( finaly made core-dev heh )05:13
imbrandonyea true05:13
newz2000congrats!05:13
imbrandonalot of what you do can be done in a familiar environment05:13
imbrandonthanks ;)05:13
newz2000there is an employees only meeting right on the heels of UDS, so I'll be at that one.05:14
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imbrandoncool05:14
kwwiiimbrandon: we can get a mt dew together :-)05:14
newz2000kwwii: and don't forget to get a taco from Taco Bell while in the US.05:14
imbrandonhahah yea finaly since we dident hookup in saint louis a few months back05:14
kwwiihehe! taco bell...can't wait05:15
kwwiiand a decent cheeseburger05:15
newz2000I tried thinking of "american" food, and taco bell was one prime choice.05:15
imbrandonnah, belly bombers from white castle05:15
imbrandonheh05:15
kwwiihehe, I had lot's of 'em while I was home05:15
newz2000kwwii: are you from the US?05:15
imbrandonyea and your weight in mt dew ;)05:15
kwwiievery time I went out I would pick up a couple05:15
kwwiinewz2000: yepp05:15
imbrandonnewz2000, he is from KC iirc with family in stl05:16
newz2000oh, didn't know that. Well, never mind then. :)05:16
imbrandonnewz2000, but he lives in gemany ;)05:16
kwwiiin the meantime I am pretty germanized05:16
imbrandonso our neck of the woods by heart05:16
newz2000you know Jane, coo of Canonical, is from the midwest too.05:17
imbrandonwow , no i dident know that05:17
kwwiiyepp, we lived quite close, actually05:17
imbrandonkwwii, wasent it KC you were from or am i rembering wrong05:18
kwwiiI was born in KC, lived longer in st. louis though05:18
imbrandonyou can be an honorary -midwest member lol05:18
imbrandonkwwii, ahh yea thats right05:18
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ppdhi05:21
imbrandonhello05:21
newz2000imbrandon: mark obviously has the final way, but go ahead and do what you can over the weekend. Once the existing content is there and things are working well, we'll switch the domain.05:24
newz2000oops, I mean 'say' not 'way'05:24
imbrandonnewz2000, sounds great, i'll finish up importing and polishing over the weekend and we'll all take another look mondayish05:25
imbrandonsound good ?05:25
newz2000yeah. Can you change the theme to make it look more ubuntu-ish?05:25
imbrandonnewz2000, sure05:25
newz2000That's probably pretty high on the list (not that your theme is bad)05:25
newz2000Just to give people confidence that they're in the right place.05:26
newz2000Also, someone, a week ago, wanted to help with auc. I sent a reply but haven't heard back.05:26
imbrandonsure, thats pretty simple to change ( and even customizable per user so they can have a Kubutnu look also if wanted etc )05:26
kwwiiimbrandon: I could help with the logo if you want05:26
imbrandonkwwii, rockin05:26
newz2000If you can, try to think of ways you could easily delegate tasks in case someone else wants to help.05:26
imbrandonnewz2000, ok, that should be simple as i have was to actualy do that within the cms too since i pretty much figured i wouldent be the only one05:27
imbrandonhehe05:27
imbrandons/was/ways05:27
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Viper550Well, I guess that the "modified" version of Operation Last Stand was a complete success (get us a freeze, let fschoep make some final choices)06:16
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newz2000imbrandon, kwwii: things on that server should be moving better now. Hopefully we'll see this hold through the weekend.07:12
kwwiicool07:13
kwwiiI will work on a new graphic tonight07:13
HiddenWolfI believed it was decided to ship with mostly dapper's artwork?07:15
newz2000HiddenWolf: kwwii is outside the law. If he submits artwork while the CDs are actually on the press, they'll stop and start over for his stuff.07:16
HiddenWolf*chuckle*07:17
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nysosymhii party people! :)))07:42
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kwwiiimbrandon: ping?09:22
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lapohi09:25
nysosymhi lapo :)09:33
nysosymwhat do u think about the new wallpaper und login? :)09:33
laponew?09:33
lapoyou mean the old ones09:34
nysosymhmm no, in edgy are 2 updates today :D09:34
nysosymi little bit modified of the dapper ones :D09:34
lapohave to check them still, btw you surelly don't want to know what I think about those :-)09:36
nysosymsure, i will know what u think about it ;)09:38
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willys_fueguinohello???09:39
nysosymhi09:40
willys_fueguinonysosym, do you know a page with *buntu logos???09:41
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fschoeptroy_s: I need you *NOW* :)09:42
nysosymhi frank :)09:42
willys_fueguinoI have the assignment of do some researchs on *buntu logos09:42
willys_fueguinofor a web-page09:42
fschoepnysosym: good evening to you sir :)09:42
fschoepwillys_fueguino: we're the guys to talk to :)09:43
nysosymfschoep: the same for u my darling ^^09:43
fschoepnysosym: thanks09:43
nysosymfschoep: whats your problem? :)09:44
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nysosymhi PingunZ09:44
PingunZhey09:44
fschoepnysosym: not exactly a problem09:44
fschoepPingunZ: least like lad to see here eh :)09:44
fschoeplikely*09:44
willys_fueguinofschoep, thats what people told me in #ubuntu :-09:44
fschoepPingunZ: good to see you here09:44
fschoepwillys_fueguino: you can ask you questions right here if you want09:45
PingunZfschoep, Just passing by :)09:45
fschoepPingunZ: OK, good to see you anyway :)09:45
PingunZ;)09:45
willys_fueguinofschoep, do you know a page with *buntu logos???09:45
willys_fueguinoI have the assignment of do some researchs on *buntu logos09:46
willys_fueguinofor a web-page09:46
fschoepwillys_fueguino: yes:09:46
fschoephttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?highlight=%28official%2909:46
fschoepwillys_fueguino: that page has got a *huge* amount of official logo stuff09:46
willys_fueguinofschoep, and what about banners??09:47
fschoepwillys_fueguino: real life banners, or website banners?09:47
willys_fueguinoI was thinking of "redesign" some wallpapers to get some cool logos...09:48
willys_fueguinofschoep, website banners09:48
fschoepwillys_fueguino: Ubuntu doesn't really have website banners I think, I never saw one really.09:48
fschoepwillys_fueguino: or... you want to make one?09:48
willys_fueguinofschoep, If I knew how I'd already at least one09:49
willys_fueguino:-09:49
willys_fueguinofschoep, I saw one with buttons..09:49
fschoepwillys_fueguino: really? Did it link to Ubuntu.com?09:49
fschoepwillys_fueguino: I'm not sure if we officially have banners though09:49
willys_fueguinothey are on that page...09:49
fschoep!09:50
willys_fueguinoxDD09:50
willys_fueguinothere's a button that looks like a banner...09:50
fschoepRight, I didn't know that :)09:50
willys_fueguino(its not animated)09:50
fschoepBut what is your question?09:50
willys_fueguinoIf you know bout any page of *buntu banners...09:50
willys_fueguinodoesn't matter if they are "unofficial"09:51
fschoepOK, then the answer is "no", I personally don't know of any Ubuntu banners, other than those you just pointed out to me :)09:52
willys_fueguinoxDD09:52
willys_fueguinothanx for the link to the logos...09:52
willys_fueguinomm...09:52
willys_fueguinoI've been on this page before...09:53
willys_fueguino:-09:53
fschoepkwwii: ping?09:54
kwwiihi fschoep09:55
fschoepkwwii: Hi09:55
fschoepkwwii: how are you doing?09:55
kwwiifschoep: pretty good, you?09:55
fschoepkwwii: fine, thanks :)09:55
fschoepkwwii: listened to our tracks yet?09:55
kwwiiI listened to all those on the web, yes :-)09:56
fschoepkwwii: and were they passable?09:56
PingunZfschoep, Linkie ?09:57
PingunZ( to the sounds .. I might give my opinion :D )09:57
fschoepPingunZ: http://www.myspace.com/oceansedge09:57
kwwiifschoep: definitely...I liked the stuff from the new album. You have improved from the first09:57
willys_fueguinommm....09:57
fschoepkwwii: thanks :)09:57
fschoepkwwii: the disc should find its way to your home soon09:57
nysosymfrank your band? :D09:57
fschoepnysosym: yes09:57
PingunZOh, you're band :)09:57
kwwiifschoep: can't wait to get it :-)09:57
PingunZ*your band09:57
fschoepPingunZ: yes09:58
fschoepkwwii: I wanted to ask some Gimp advice09:58
PingunZYou told me about it :)09:58
fschoepkwwii: just a short question09:58
PingunZCan't wait to download it .. illegal :D just kidding09:58
fschoepkwwii: suppose, theoretically, you have our Ubuntu login splash09:58
willys_fueguinoguys, do you know of any "unnoficial" page of *buntu logos??09:58
fschoepkwwii: you know the one with the dark edges?09:58
fschoepkwwii: how would you lighten those a bit so it'd fit better on a light background?09:59
fschoepI've tried all kinds of stuff but it doesn't come out looking good.09:59
PingunZfschoep, the links in ' Contacting Ocean's edge ' are hard to read .. fix the blue color. ;)09:59
fschoepPingunZ: I know, we used something called Pimp my Profile to get some basic CSS but I haven't yet used my magic on it.10:00
PingunZoh10:00
fschoepBasically Myspace is a bucketload of crap web design :)10:00
fschoepcheck www.oceansedge.nl for the true story10:00
kwwiifschoep: to be honest, I am not sure what you mean10:01
kwwiifschoep: which pic?10:01
nysosymfrank wow I LOVE THESE KIND OF MUSIC! :D10:01
fschoepkwwii: let me get it10:01
fschoepnysosym: thanks ;)10:01
fschoepkwwii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Polish/Directions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=dapper-lsplash.png10:02
fschoepit's got those dark edges10:02
nysosymfschoep: hmm no, i dont like it with the dark edgy :-/10:02
nysosymhh10:02
nysosymedg ^^10:03
nysosym+e10:03
fschoepnysosym: right :)10:03
kwwiifschoep: if you take much of that away you will loose the 3D effect10:04
nysosymfrank i go crazy, i love "the brightest" :D10:04
fschoepkwwii: indeed, that's the biggest problem10:04
kwwiiyou might be able to lighten it a bit10:04
kwwiiand lighten the inside some too10:04
kwwiibut if you lighten the inside too much you loose the creamy smoothness of it10:05
fschoepkwwii: indeed10:05
kwwiiyou could reverse the gradient10:05
kwwiiit appears to be darker at top than at bottom10:05
willys_fueguinoWould it be alright if I get an *buntu wallpaper from art.ubuntu.com and I modify it to get or customize its logo??10:05
kwwiior possible the top highlight starts a few pixels down10:05
nysosymfschoep: is there a *svg version of this splash?10:05
fschoepnysosym: no, this is we ever had... unless >:)10:06
fschoepCan't talk about that in public I'm afraid10:06
kwwiieither reverse the highlight of that object so the the bottom part is as dark as the top and vice versa....or, move the top element up a pixel or make it a pixel bigger in both x and x10:06
fschoepkwwii: OK, thanks for that advice10:07
fschoepkwwii: now how would you do this with only this PNG :) ?10:07
kwwiiouch10:07
fschoep;)10:07
kwwiiI wouldn't try10:07
willys_fueguino??10:07
fschoepOK, that's clear10:07
kwwiihonestly, trying to work on the png is nasty10:07
fschoepIt is, indeed.10:07
kwwiimake extra layers in gimp and try to add transparent highlights or such10:07
kwwiithen you can play with how transparent the highlight is10:08
fschoepYes10:08
fschoepanother problem is that the background color is going to clash regarding hue10:08
kwwiioh man10:08
fschoepanyway, I've got some minutes till the freeze :)10:08
fschoep:D10:08
kwwiichanging the color of the inside will probably lead to color banding10:08
PingunZThe freeze is today ?10:08
fschoepPingunZ: yes, again actually10:08
PingunZwhen will edgy final release ?10:09
fschoepmy warm personality makes all those freezes go away10:09
fschoepPingunZ: next week10:09
PingunZfschoep, You have a point there :D10:09
kwwiihehe10:09
kwwiilol10:09
fschoep:)10:09
fschoepkwwii: I'll go and try some stuff, thanks a lot for the advice buddy10:09
PingunZOr its just my coldness that is gone -_-10:10
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kwwiino problem man, if I can be of any more help just let me know10:10
fschoepkwwii: fix edgy plz kthxbye :)10:10
fschoepjust kidding10:10
kwwiilol10:10
kwwiiI could help you with certain pics10:10
kwwiiI have time10:10
fschoepWell, it's really only this login splash that is problematic10:10
kwwiijust say the word and I'll do whatever I can :-)10:11
PingunZWill the gdm be the same as in dapper ?10:11
fschoepIf you can also try to make it look good that'd be cool10:11
fschoepPingunZ: no, no, no, it's going to be awesome. Better than Arch's anyway ;)10:11
PingunZfschoep, Arch has no gdm at all :D10:11
fschoepkwwii: I'm going to try and hunt for the source of the image using dark magic.10:12
kwwiithat would be the best idea10:12
fschoepkwwii: the basic scenario is we have that image and it needs to be displayed well on #dab082.10:12
fschoepkwwii: officially we don't have it, but I can poke around10:12
kwwii;-)10:13
fschoepkwwii: it looks like getting the source won't be an option10:16
fschoep:-|10:16
fschoepI've got some earlier designs, but not this one10:16
kwwiiouch10:16
nysosymfschoep: do u have a graphic tablet?10:24
fschoepnysosym: no, I use a mouse10:24
nysosymhmm okay, i will buy one, but it must work under linux10:25
fschoepOK, I think any Wacom will be pretty well supported10:25
nysosymok, thx. I will buy one :)10:26
fschoepTell Wacom I sent you so I can get one for free ;)10:27
nysosymi hate it to draw with a mice, especially some characters.10:27
fschoepIndeed10:27
nysosymand u don't have any problems with your mice?10:27
nysosymu can get one for free? O.o10:28
nysosymwhy u didn't use that? ^^10:28
fschoepYeah, just kidding - like a referral program10:28
fschoepmy mouse works perfectly - it's a Mighty Mouse10:28
nysosymhehe :)10:29
nysosymfschoep  #dab082 << these is the background color?10:43
fschoepnysosym: yes10:44
nysosymok :)10:44
nysosymhttp://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=previewso3.png << i think it looks very good without a dark border on top :D10:45
fschoepnysosym: can you send it to me? I'll add it to the mix10:46
fschoepnysosym: looks good10:46
nysosymfschoep: sure, per mail?10:46
fschoepnysosym: yes, please10:47
nysosymok10:47
nysosymi will send them10:47
nysosymmom10:47
nysosymu have a mail :)10:48
fschoepnysosym: thanks10:49
nysosymno problem :)10:49
fschoepnysosym: thanks, your attempt is very good especially on the background, I'll use it10:49
nysosymcool :)10:50
nysosymthanks10:50
fschoepgoing to do a bit of polishing if necessary, but it's good10:50
nysosymyes, have fun :)10:50
kwwiihttp://sinecera.de/artUbuntuCom.jpg10:53
fschoepnysosym: one thing I changed is the corners - lsplash can only handle 1-bit transparency10:53
nysosymohh okay :)10:54
fschoepnysosym: just a small tip - use Layer --> Transparency --> Semi flatten to make it use 1-bit :)10:54
fschoepnysosym: no problem, it's a hidden feature10:54
kwwiifschoep: is the ubuntu usplash stuff all 16 color safe?10:55
nysosymyes, thank fschoep :)10:55
fschoepkwwii: yes10:55
fschoepnysosym: :)10:55
kwwiifschoep: well, that is on the list of things to improve in kubuntu for edgy+1 then :p10:56
fschoepkwwii: well, we just have a basic design for it, but it should be in there I think :)10:56
kwwii"let someone else take care of it" has always been a good motto at the end of a release10:56
fschoep;)10:57
nysosymfschoep: which logo do u use for gdm?10:58
fschoepnysosym: A creation by Jonathan Austin, "Who"10:59
fschoepnysosym: I've got it somewhere10:59
kwwiiwho?10:59
fschoepkwwii: yes :)10:59
kwwiisounds like an old comedy skit10:59
fschoepkwwii: not going to fall for that joke again ;)10:59
kwwii:p11:00
nysosymfschoep: thx, i will search them :D11:00
fschoepsomething Monty Python would take fifteen minutes for11:00
fschoepnysosym: you won't find it11:00
fschoepnysosym: it's been kind of hidden11:00
nysosymhmmm11:00
fschoepnysosym: you could take ubuntu.png from the GDM11:00
fschoepnysosym: but it's got a slight drop shadow11:00
nysosymok i will try it :)11:02
kwwiihttp://sinecera.de/artUbuntuCom2.jpg11:13
kwwiiideas?11:14
fschoepkwwii: where is it going to be used?11:15
fschoepart.ubuntu.com main page / template?11:15
fschoepbrb11:16
kwwiiyepp11:17
kwwiithinking about not using the normal ubuntu colors for it though11:17
kwwiisince it has artwork from all the *buntu projects11:17
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kwwiibut I like the earlier tangerine version11:17
kwwiihi nixternal11:18
nixternalhola kwwii!11:20
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nysosymi will go to bed now12:06
nysosymgood night my friends! :)12:06
kwwiisee you12:06
kwwiisleep well12:07
nysosymthx, u too ;)12:07

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