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Burgundaviaok, slackers06:38
elkbuntuBurgundavia, sorry about my poor effort on the UWN.. it's crazy here atm06:38
Burgundaviawho wants to help me with UWN right now!06:38
elkbuntui read your mind. i'm cool06:38
nixternallets do this06:38
nixternalsince im slow on docs right now, except for the handbook, which needs massive amounts of help06:38
Burgundaviaok, transferring to gobby06:39
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nixternaluh oh06:40
nixternalis it me, or is this a 2 week edition?06:40
elkbuntui think we probably need to make it a 2 week edition, say we lost a week and get over it06:41
elkbuntubecause at this rate, it's ridiculous06:41
Burgundaviano, lets get this one out06:41
Burgundaviawe can release the next one on tuesday of next week06:42
Burgundaviasomebody want to  do meetings, etc.06:43
BurgundaviaI am going to dig into edgy stuff06:43
Burgundaviatodo:06:43
Burgundaviasecurity updates06:43
Burgundavia6.06 updates06:43
Burgundaviameetings06:43
Burgundaviabug stats06:43
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nixternalsecurity updates == 2 or 3 maybe06:43
nixternal6.06 updates about the same06:43
nixternalmeetings, that one is a bear06:44
nixternalbug stats, still rising06:44
nixternalok next?06:44
nixternal;)06:44
Burgundaviaheh06:45
Burgundaviaso this one ends on teh 14th06:45
nixternali used to hate doing the meetings06:45
elkbuntuBurgundavia, yes... we are 6 days behind06:45
BurgundaviaI am fully aware of that06:45
elkbuntuBurgundavia, which is why it's probably an idea to 'get over it' and do a 2-weeker :)06:45
Burgundaviathat is way too much crap06:46
Burgundaviaespecially the edgy stuff06:46
elkbuntuthen we be picky. we dont have to put every single world-wide mention of ubuntu into it06:46
nixternal8 security issues total06:47
Burgundaviahush you06:47
Burgundavianixternal: for which period06:47
Burgundaviayou elected me editor in chief] 06:47
BurgundaviaI am making decision :)06:47
nixternalfrom the last release, until now06:47
elkbuntudude, i didnt vote for nobody.. i dont even recall any election06:47
imbrandonmoins fella's ( and lady )06:47
poningru:(06:47
nixternal11 6.06 updates, plus language packs06:47
Burgundaviathere was as much democracy as in the US06:48
Burgundavianow, you are either with us or against us06:48
nixternalhrmm06:48
poningrulol06:48
nixternalim a bush supporter, so watch out, cuz i will wage war06:48
nixternalim sure you have weapons of mass destruction somewhere06:48
elkbuntuugh06:48
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poningrusomeone check the coc to see if thats ok or not06:49
imbrandon6 days behind isnt time to biker, lets get it going troops ;)06:49
elkbuntugah.. hush dorothy :06:49
imbrandoni have a short tad i'd like to add on the one comming out next tues06:49
nixternalgahahaha06:49
imbrandonHAHA06:49
nixternalthat was ownage06:50
nixternalimbrandon ain't in kansas no mo, he in the mo06:50
imbrandonkansas city is in missouri yes ;)06:50
elkbuntui remembered the kansas part, that's all i cared for :06:51
poningruso imbrandon == dorothy??06:52
nixternal428 new bugs since last uwn06:52
nixternal17 critical06:52
nixternal8399 unconfirmed06:52
nixternal11971 unassigned06:52
nixternalall bugs == 6012706:53
imbrandonanyhow i come to marketing with a request ( and the veteran elkbuntu ) a call for people to help me orginise ubuntu-midwest LoCo , thus if someone wants to poke it into the UWN i would be greatfull ( hint hint )06:53
nixternalhrmm06:53
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nixternaldon't be scoping my grounds homey06:53
nixternali have the midwest foolio06:53
imbrandonnixternal, chicago isnt midwest dopey ;)06:53
nixternalthis will be bloods and crips06:53
nixternalhrmm06:53
nixternalmonsters of the midway, capital of the midwest06:54
nixternalchicago is midwest, for as long as i can remember06:54
Burgundavianixternal: be nice, stop voting for bush and all that06:54
nixternali can't vote for him anymore06:54
Burgundaviathankfully06:54
poningruimbrandon: you do know about newz2000?06:54
nixternalnewz2000 will be at ubuntu chicago next weekend!06:55
nixternalhime and troy from the forums06:55
imbrandonponingru, yea i talk to him regularly06:55
Burgundaviathe worst part was, the rest of the world almost universally loathed the man, yet we can't vote against him but we did have to deal with it06:55
poningruimbrandon: iirc he is in the midwest06:55
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elkbuntuimbrandon, if you're at the forefront of that loco, you should probably be #ubuntu-locoteams :)06:55
nixternaltis ok, i know the exchange hit the 12k mark today, making me even more money06:55
nixternalimbrandon: and when you do get the loco, get jbrouhard out of my channel and into yours ;)06:56
elkbuntulol06:56
imbrandonnixternal, noooooooooooo06:56
elkbuntunixternal, you cant get rid of them. we still have a new zealander in our channel :(06:56
nixternali already have Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana and Michigan members06:56
nixternaldon't need missouri as well06:56
nixternalhaha elkbuntu06:56
poningruspeaking of which I need more ase people06:57
elkbuntuponingru, innocent factoids in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic do wonders :)06:57
poningrurofl06:57
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elkbuntuo.O06:58
elkbuntuhow the hell did you manage that?06:58
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poningru[00:49:04]  <poningru> someone check the coc to see if thats ok or not06:58
elkbuntuhave you tried joining it recently?06:59
poningruexcept iirc it was on gays or something06:59
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poningrunot really06:59
nixternalhahahahaha06:59
elkbuntucos the ban list is small and i cant see a match to you on there06:59
poningruplus I cant with freenodes channel limit06:59
poningruso meh06:59
elkbuntuponingru, annoy a staffer and ask for more channels06:59
Madpilotponingru, you do know that normal bans only last 48hrs, right?06:59
poningruelkbuntu: they let you do that??07:00
elkbuntuponingru, sure. how else do you think there are some people in a list of channels longer than your arm?07:00
poningruthey have longer arms than mine?07:01
nixternalhrmm...OOo2.0.4 is in this release...i thought that has been out for a while07:03
nixternali got security updates07:03
poningrunixternal: post em on gobby07:04
poningruhooray07:05
nixternalok, security and 6.06 done07:13
nixternalbugs done07:13
nixternalmeetings?07:13
nixternalalright..i got the meetings07:14
elkbuntuwell arent you just a machine07:14
nixternalhmm no wiki markup right?07:15
Burgundaviayep07:18
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nixternalnow, i just disconnect right, i don't close07:33
nixternal<jbrouhard> oh wow, there is going to be an ubuntu midwest, i am going to call imbrandon, and see what i can do to help him! thanks nixternal for telling me that!07:35
nixternali wonder why johnlittle has been hiding from irc?07:41
nixternalit seems he made a blog post within the past 2 days07:41
poningrucause its end of october and everyone seems crazy07:42
poningrureleasing right now07:42
poningrutwenty projects right now07:42
poningruand a fracking search project which goes live in like a week07:42
poningrugaaaah07:42
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nixternalelkbuntu: how come you aren't ubuntu user #1?07:43
Burgundavianixternal: can you write some about 3.5.507:44
nixternalsure07:45
Burgundaviathanks07:45
nixternal=== KDE 3.5.5 ====07:48
nixternalgrr, -=, is that ok?07:48
imbrandonnixternal, you SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!! ( w.r.t. jbrouhard )07:50
nixternalhaha07:50
nixternalthat was a joke btw07:50
nixternali almost forgot about it07:50
nixternali ignore him so much..i feel bad07:50
imbrandonthats not even close to funny07:50
nixternalya it was07:50
nixternalyou almost called cingular to change your number07:50
imbrandonverizon and i did once already07:51
nixternalheh, same crappy server i got07:51
nixternals/server/service ;)07:51
nixternalBurgundavia: should i create a new header for kde, or go along with the area you are in?07:52
Burgundaviajust do a paragraph07:52
nixternalk07:52
BurgundaviaI will edit it later07:53
Burgundaviacan somebody write a blurb about the behind ubuntu interview?07:58
nixternali got it07:58
nixternalwho was intereviewed btw07:59
Burgundaviamatt07:59
Burgundaviabehind ubuntu lists it07:59
nixternalthey just now posted it?  it says he was interviewed in august07:59
nixternalthats why i asked07:59
nixternaldo we put that in the "In the Press" section?08:00
Burgundaviathe interview was posted last week08:00
Burgundaviano, teh community stuff08:00
nixternalk08:00
Burgundaviafirst section08:00
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nixternaldone08:05
nixternalanything else?08:05
Burgundavianixternal: add the qt4.2 stuff08:07
nixternalk08:07
Burgundaviacan you do some spellchecking?08:23
nixternalheh08:24
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nixternalok, someone needs to tell the obby people to add some spell checking08:25
Burgundaviano, we need telepathy08:26
elkbuntudid youse get it done yet?08:32
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Burgundaviaelkbuntu: slacker08:35
elkbuntuBurgundavia, you dont know half of it :(08:36
Madpilotelkbuntu, survey results out yet? ;)08:40
elkbuntuBurgundavia, you can keep him. australia doesnt want him :08:40
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: after that last remark, yep08:41
nixternalspell checking done08:45
Burgundaviaok, anybody else editing?08:52
nixternalBurgundavia: the behind ubuntu story is on there twice08:52
nixternalonce in press with the osdir linkage, and then the top08:52
Burgundaviaclean that up08:52
nixternalremove mine08:52
nixternalim going to leave the press one08:52
Burgundaviaremove the in the press one08:52
nixternalarg08:52
nixternalok08:53
BurgundaviaI am going to write the in this issue08:53
nixternali just quit right?  don't close anything, just flat out quit, leaving the file open on the server08:54
Burgundaviabloody no undo08:55
Burgundaviayep, just quit08:55
nixternalok, im out08:56
Burgundaviaok, copying back to the wiki08:57
Burgundaviaok, last pieces before I send?08:58
nixternalnot here09:00
Burgundaviaok, sent09:06
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:Burgundavia] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam | UWN #18 is out | Help us write UWN 18 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue19 | Channel logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
elkbuntuyay09:06
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:poningru] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam | UWN #18 is out | Help us write UWN 19 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue19 | Channel logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
Burgundavianixternal: can you kickstart next weeks while I change the relevant pages?09:07
nixternalsure09:07
nixternalyou posting the text version or do you want me to rock it?09:11
Burgundaviaoh, we need a fridge story09:13
nixternalfridge story posted, awaiting approval by someone09:25
nixternalBurgundavia: want me to do the text based post to the list, or are you handling that?09:26
nixternalnm09:26
nixternalyou HANDLED that09:26
elkbuntuhes gone to bed afaik09:31
jendabout time too ;)09:33
jendaGood morning09:33
jendaI'm out09:33
jendaLatin class...09:33
mdkegood work on UWN people09:48
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elkbuntumdke, heh.. pity about the tardiness of it though :(10:47
jendaAnyone have a clue where the sleeve for the Ubuntu DVD could be DL'd?10:48
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elkbuntujenda, is there not one on the diy wiki page?10:48
jendaonly CD and breezy DVD10:49
elkbuntu:(10:52
jendaseems he is happy with the cd version - nevermind that, then.10:57
jendaI s'pose the DVD cover is owned by amazon.10:57
elkbuntuprobably10:58
elkbuntuno harm in creating one yourself though ;)11:00
jendahehe ;)11:00
jendaI don't need it - it's a guy in #ubuntu-cz11:00
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Kamping_Kaiserjenda, :)02:24
MenZajenda: :D02:24
jendayo KK02:24
jendaHuzzah MenZa ;)02:24
MenZaHeya :)02:25
jendaWhat's up, you two ;)02:25
MenZaOh not much02:25
MenZaI just got Evanescence's new album :902:25
Kamping_Kaiseri'm trying to do tafe work, but i'm to stuffed - even after napping02:25
Kamping_Kaiserjenda, you need a bank acco87unt for some reason?02:28
Kamping_Kaiser*account02:28
jendayes :)02:28
jendaI have some cash on my paypal, but no way of extracting it without an account.02:28
Kamping_Kaiserrofl :D02:28
jendaATM, it's 100, but presumably, I will rotate about 400 over the course of time for them posters :02:29
jenda:)02:30
jendaI can't afford to pay for the posters till I get my 10002:30
Kamping_Kaiseri'm impressed you managed this long without an account02:30
jendahehe02:35
jendaIt was a really pressing issue. I was too lazy though :)02:35
Kamping_Kaiser*grin*, your reminding me i need to change bank.02:35
Kamping_Kaiseri'm too lazy though ;)02:35
jendaThe great thing is that the Czech 'Sporitelna' gives me an account, a debit card, a credit card and all the online services for free + a 200 CZK ($10) annual bonus just because I'm a student :) :) :)02:35
Kamping_Kaiserwow. fair effort.02:35
jendavery02:35
jendaand I pay $0.10 for transfers and $0.25 for incoming payments, such as paypal02:35
jendaSounds fair to me.02:35
jendaBut if I disappear from IRC within the next year, it's prolly because they pulled my pants over some trick I didn't notice and I had to sell my lappy ;)02:36
Kamping_Kaisereek! may it never get to that :)02:37
jendaI guess i could read the thick stack of conditions etc. they gave me, now that I'm a lawyer :)02:42
Kamping_Kaiserjenda, i'll send you my banks, and you can tell me what it means :P02:42
jendaKamping_Kaiser: ok, sure no problem, anytime...02:42
jenda... it'll be $135.2002:42
Kamping_KaiserUS or NZ? ;)02:42
jendaumm... lemme check the conversion rates...02:42
Kamping_Kaiser*rofl*02:42
jendacan be either :)02:42
jenda1 NZD is 14 CZK, so $135.20 is still a fair deal for me :)02:42
Kamping_Kaiser:) tahts only $120~ in AUD then (135NZ~)02:42
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:42
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jendarather useful, imo :)02:42
Kamping_Kaiserxe.com=cool, but i dont convert currency that much :)02:42
jendaI just got an envelope in the mail today with a 200 Slovak crown bill02:42
jendaWTF am I gonna do with it I dunno :)02:42
Kamping_Kaiserwallpapering? :D02:42
jenda(we go to slovakia twice a year, so it won't be _that_ much trouble :))02:42
jendaHow do I add attachments to the wiki?02:43
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:43
jenda(damn i should know that ;))02:43
Kamping_Kaiser:D02:44
Kamping_Kaiserdropdown menu02:44
jendagot it :)02:45
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Kamping_Kaiser*grin*02:46
tonyyarussojenda: I have a Slovak friend here at school that would probably be happy to have that show up in the mail.02:51
jenda:)02:53
jendaI'm happy too, don't worry :)02:53
jendaIt's money all the same - and it's the money I put in the stickers.02:53
jendaMoney coming back after you gave it away definitely must feel better than new money :)02:53
Kamping_Kaiserjenda, i agree :)02:55
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grenegarheh, when i joined this channel, i though it said "Help us PWN" instead of "Help us write UWN...". Better get some coffee...04:40
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:41
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jendahaha :)04:44
elkbuntugrenegar, you are allowed to help us PWN as well :)04:48
grenegarlol! i do what i can...04:55
lophytegrenegar: how goes the effort in Winnipeg?04:56
grenegarlophyte: it goes slowly, but steadily.04:59
grenegari find it interesting when i talk to people about ubuntu....04:59
grenegarmany are intrigued by the powerful, yet free, capability.05:02
grenegarhowever the biggest barrier is change and learning something new05:02
grenegarfrom what's I've read lately, it seems that Vista will be very good for Ubuntu - everyone I talk to would rather make an effort to try something new than spend money on hardware and software05:05
lophytenot to mention all the DRM and stupid crap that Vista is bringing with it05:06
lophytewe're gonna be bringing a 12-foot inflatable Tux to the Vista launch party in Toronto05:08
elkbunturofl05:10
grenegarno doubt. people i talk to *hate* the idea of being restricted. i work at a university and our network admins are none-to-thrilled about tossing the corporate install disc and having to set up a dedicated license server.05:10
grenegarlophyte: I love it!! I *need* pictures of this!05:10
lophytehehe, there will be05:10
elkbuntuand video05:10
lophyteI think we should do an all-out protest05:10
lophytemake some noise05:11
lophyteget some media coverage :P05:11
grenegarthat's awesome!05:12
lophytepeople protest all the time over controversial things...05:12
lophyteso why not this?05:12
lophytethis *IS* controversial, people just don't realize it05:12
grenegarshould definitely generate some exposure for all things tux05:13
lophyteindeed05:13
jendalophyte: omg... Iwannacome!!!05:13
lophyteand they can't ask us to leave, as long as we're protesting peacefully05:13
lophytethey could ask us to take down the penguin probably, but not leave...05:14
lophytewe have the right to peaceful gathering05:14
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grenegar--> tux shirts for all05:14
lophytehehe, yeah :)05:14
lophytenow I'm considering making a sign, hehe05:14
lophyteyay protests05:14
lophyteI can't say I've ever heard of open source protesting.. but why not? that's how everyone else who's trying to promote a cause makes noise05:16
lophyteif a law is going to be passed that a large group of people disagree with, they protest05:16
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grenegar"'computer folks' everywhere are protesting against having a lowered quality of living...05:22
lophytelol05:22
grenegar"one guys said 'I constantly have to clean spyware and viruses from all my friend's and family's computers, I become somewhat depressed, and may end up costing the health system as a result" lol05:23
lophytehahaha05:23
elkbunturofl05:25
Kamping_Kaiserlmao05:25
lophytehonestly though, I don't think a protest is too far-fetched05:26
lophytehow else can we make noise to the masses05:26
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Burgundaviagettinh ubuntu taled about in the press05:28
lophyteindeed.. and open source in general05:29
grenegartotally agree. using and supporting M$ stuff leads to Office Space style anxiety. Many corporate environments are locked in to M$ to some extent, so computer professionals working in that environment are essentially an oppressed minority group. Definitely a reason to protest.05:31
elkbuntuBurgundavia, you mean so long as it's not done the reiser way?05:31
lophytelol05:31
lophytegrenegar: using and supporting anything that contains DRM technology05:32
lophytethough telling everyone that their ipods are bad for them wouldn't go over so well :P05:32
grenegarlophyte: ya, DRM, binary file formats and closed-source binary applications.05:33
Kamping_Kaiserlophyte, no, but its the truth05:36
lophyteindeed05:36
grenegarIT guy --> hand tied05:36
grenegarkicked in groin (optionally)05:36
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grenegarKamping_Kaiser: lol, i just strong arm my way to the computer, shield others from the computer with my body while loading Ubuntu. lol!05:38
Kamping_Kaiserrofl05:38
lophytenice, I got some ideas flowing05:39
lophyteI've got a cool idea for a commercial, hehe05:39
Kamping_Kaiserlater all, i'm going to crash05:39
lophytea guy dressed up nicely, clearly an IT type guy, sitting in a cubical with his hands tied behind his back, trying to work on his computer05:40
grenegar(typing with tongue)05:40
lophytehehe, yeah05:40
lophyteor feet05:40
grenegarlol05:40
Kamping_Kaiserdrat. i want to see thsi converstaion - i'll try and find logs later :( looks like it will be fun05:40
lophytehehe05:40
Kamping_Kaisertougng would be better05:40
Kamping_Kaiser'easier' :P05:40
lophyteI'd really like to shoot a couple of pro-opensource advertisements for fun05:41
lophytepost them up to ubuntuvideo05:41
grenegarand if done well, would develop some internet popularity (Digg, Slashdot,...)05:42
lophyteindeed05:42
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lophytewb05:43
gregbuntugrenegar --> gregbuntu05:44
ubotuAnnouncement from my owner (Seveas): TheFridge05:44
gregbuntu:)05:44
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jendahuh?05:45
gregbuntuanother idea for promotional video: see http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis/2006/10/20/drunkbuntu/05:46
gregbuntu"so easy to use, you can do it while loaded"05:47
lophytehaha05:47
gregbuntu2 IT guys setting up server for boss, (a) one loading M$ (b) other loading Ubuntu... cut scene to 1 hour later... boss: "what's the status?" guy (a): "almost done setting up the license server, then we can start loading the server up". guy (b) slurring words: "We've been live for half an hour".05:51
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Klaidas;] ] ] ] 06:00
Klaidasheh06:00
Klaidasthere's always the othger side you know06:00
Klaidas2 IT guys setting up desktop PC for boss, (a) one loading M$ (b) other loading Linux... cut scene to 1 hour later... boss: "what's the status?" guy (a): "almost done setting it up I'll just install antivirus, anti spyware and stuff like that". guy (b) slurring words: "We've been live for half an hour". Cut scene to 2 hours later: guy (a): "I'm glad seeing you enjoying this new PC" guy (b): I hope he doesnt need to play/do some serious grap06:03
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lophytehehe06:08
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lophytethat would rock06:08
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gregbuntuhehe06:10
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BurgworkI feel sorry for Suse08:01
Burgworkeverytime they pull ahead in the DW stats, we announce another release08:01
nixternallol08:04
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nixternalyo yo11:43
Burgworkhey nixternal11:45
nixternalmy lord i have come up with one hell of a marketing campaign for 7.0411:45
nixternalhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27566/11:47
nixternalthere it is for all to enjoy11:47
nixternalit is copylefted ;)11:47
MenZahahaha11:50
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MenZaThat is brilliant11:51
MenZaelkbuntu: topic that :D11:51
MenZaoh wait11:51
MenZanixternal, you're a member11:51
MenZaYou can topic it.11:51
Burgworknixternal: patent that and sell it to Mark ;)11:53
nixternalhehe11:54
nixternalim blogging it as we speak11:54
MenZaI should too.11:58
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