=== doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-124-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === andrew [n=andrew@d192-24-54-136.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-04874a162914e8dd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] I... LOVE... bzr :-) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] hi Hobbsee :-) [01:54] hey Nafallo === redguy [n=mati@afb175.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] hmm, my boss just came down but I don't know that he noticed that I was not running OS X === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] Hobbsee_: wb :-) [01:58] heya :) === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo sees Hobbsee bouncing around ;-) [01:59] hhe [01:59] my connectoin has sucked the past couple of days [02:00] does look like that yes... [02:03] Hobbsee: we're only supposed to work on UNMETDEPS now? :-P [02:03] Nafallo: and fix bugs. [02:04] *puuh* [02:04] that list looked boring :-) [02:05] heh its not /all/ fun ;P === imbrandon is listening to Gimme Back My Bullets by Lynyrd Skynyrd [Amarok] [02:05] and probably has false positives... how can bonfire have an unmet dep? it's a dummy package ffs :-P [02:06] heh doesnt mena all the packages it depends on are installable ;) === Nafallo logs in to his pbuilder === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] bonfire never built to begin with did it? [02:08] damnit. I HAVE to get my pbuilder.unionfs branch up-to-date soon... [02:09] lol [02:09] bonfire doesn't install indeed :-P [02:09] slomo: what did you think of? :-) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@88.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo feeds brasero to pbuilder === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] Hobbsee: it did. on all arches. [02:32] Hobbsee: ah. right. now I follow :-) [02:32] Hobbsee: you think we should drop the dummy? [02:32] Nafallo: i dont know. === Nafallo ponders... === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-38-191.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] I think slomo said something about that dummy being for the inofficial repos which had bonfire or something like that... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@202.107.195.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] ajmitch: can I get a general upload exception for UNMETDEPS? :-) === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st0660990722.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] that's crackful - there are all sorts of fixes needed [02:37] alright. brasero then? :-) [02:38] Depends: brasero (>= 0.4.4-0ubuntu1) instead of -1 on the dummy. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] should be ok === Nafallo dputs === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-b4691039af4d1f5d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] criawips needs libgoffice-1, we have -0. *sighs* [03:04] ajmitch: bug #65451 says you are fixing it? :-) [03:04] Malone bug 65451 in gnomesword "[UNMETDEPS] gnomesword has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65451 [03:05] yes? [03:05] then I can ignore that one then :-) [03:06] I'll set it to in progress and assign it then :-) [03:06] Nafallo: that's stinks about criawips, I needed libgoffice-1 for gchemutils too [03:07] but gnumeric needs the latest goffice so that's what we got === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] LaserJock: if we find enough stuff we might need to try to sync it? :-/ [03:07] we can't -0 is newer then -1 :-) [03:08] ehm. _that_ sounds like crack. [03:08] we got -0 from Debian experimental [03:08] *sigh* [03:08] WONTFIX? ;-) [03:08] basically [03:08] for edgy at least [03:09] the gchemutils developer also contributes to goffice [03:09] and he said that -0 is fairly unstable [03:09] (hence why it's been in experimental for a few months) [03:09] fortunately we did not release abiword yet [03:09] it depends on it too [03:09] yeah [03:10] I was going to see if we could have both versions some how [03:10] but it's just a tad late for edgy ;-) [03:10] I rejected it :-) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] but I don't know what I'm going to do with gchemutils in Edgy+1 [03:13] bddebian: hi :-) [03:13] I guess I'll try to patch it to work with -0 [03:13] LaserJock: we'll just have to see what will happen then :-) [03:13] Heya Nafallo [03:14] and LaserJock :) [03:14] bddebian: are you going to squash some UNMETDEPS? :-) [03:15] Nafallo: silly question, of course he will [03:16] in that case I'm pondering what the bed might do to me ;-) [03:16] for every upload, please put the changelog entry for the upload on the bug [03:16] so that it's easy to approve [03:16] Fri Oct 20 03:16:26 CEST 2006 [03:16] ah, oki [03:16] so we can't just ask you and get approved? :-) [03:17] no, because I may not be around === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] when you are I meant? [03:17] I still want stuff on the bug please :) === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] since I have to talk to archive admins when they're around [03:18] a bit too complex I think [03:19] hmmm. core duo's dont seem to work on edgy - this one at least [03:19] hmm, I wonder what bug I closed then... :-P [03:20] Hobbsee: got a new laptop now? [03:21] Hobbsee, core duo or core 2 duo ? [03:21] core 2 duo has an kernel pannic a while back but i thought it was fixed up [03:21] I like torrentflux upstream... he can't receive mail from me :-/ === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] more Hobbsee_ === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] indeed. [03:23] I think I have a core2 duo on this iMac [03:23] or maybe I don't [03:23] Hobbsee: as I asked, new laptop? [03:23] ajmitch: thinking about it, i stole dads [03:23] ah [03:23] your one not quite melted down then? [03:23] (sorry, connection lagged) [03:24] heh. yeah, well. i got it up to 87C again a couple of weeks ago [03:24] that's not bad [03:24] no way. dad's will boot to a dapper final cd, but not an edgy knot 1 [03:24] I used to get my desktop box up to 93C before it would shutdown [03:24] that's just crazy [03:24] that box is dead now, of course [03:25] ajmitch: the one thing that's suprising me - this laptop isnt hot from general running :P [03:25] yes, dad knows iv'e "borrowed" his laptop [03:25] Hobbsee, there was some issues with kernel pannics early in edgy, try an RC cd [03:25] Hobbsee: grab the RC release [03:25] imbrandon: i'd prefer not to download one :P [03:25] but i could do that [03:28] network controller: intel corporation: unknown device 4222 [03:28] that doesnt sound good === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superjon [n=jeff@office4.tmcs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp5-102.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] I just created a package using pbuilder build... and can't find the resulting deb [03:31] Where do I look? [03:32] in /var/cache/pbuilder/result if you dident change the defaults [03:32] find ~/packages/network-manager-vpnc -name '*.deb' doesn't give me anything [03:32] I looked there and it's empty [03:32] But $? of pbuilder build was 0 [03:33] well then look at the path its pointing to in your pbuilderrc [03:33] Thanks, that was it === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@CPE-144-136-125-169.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] wb Hobbsee [03:35] NEAT~ [03:35] wifi works :) [03:35] good === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-a92fd06936d147fb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] tsk...shakira [03:39] libtulip-qt4-2.0-dev: Depends: libtulip-qt-2.0c2a but it is not installable <-- s/qt/qt4/ ;-). okey to upload if I add a comment on the bug I close? :-) [03:40] ajmitch: ^ :-) === ajmitch looks around for someone else to take the blame for upload approvals [03:41] lol [03:41] hehe === Hobbsee blames ajmitch [03:42] Nafallo: go on [03:43] ajmitch: thanks :-) [03:51] is it just me or does the hotel doesnt have wireielss? === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee__ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] I might not have a pony but i have a deer http://federation.imbrandon.com/FeistyFawn.png [04:03] mmm, venison [04:03] hehe === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] yeah watch canonical be sued from disney [04:05] lol === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] hey everybody [04:13] hej Toadstool [04:13] hi Nafallo [04:13] oops, swedish :-P [04:13] heya [04:13] Hobbsee: \o/ [04:14] ello Toadstool === imbrandon streams a limp bizkit song to zul's speakers [04:14] hey imbrandon [04:16] ehrm.. [04:17] where the hell did we get cinepaint 0.20-1-2 from? [04:17] debian has 0.20-1-1.3 [04:19] Nafallo: maybe someone who did a dch -i without updating to 1.3ubuntu1 instead of 2 [04:19] most likely [04:20] uh oh [04:20] looks like it [04:20] how the hell did it get -1-1.3 anyhow shouldent it have been just -1.3 [04:21] imbrandon: depends on the upstream version [04:21] imbrandon: upstream 0.20-1? [04:21] imbrandon: maybe upstream version is 0.20-1 :) [04:21] three answers ;-) [04:21] most be true :-) [04:21] heh [04:23] baah. I wish it hadn't built in dapper, but it has :-P [04:23] yep [04:24] I'll just try to build the damn thing against the new libgutenprintui then. and add a comment about this in the changelog :-) === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-0bc7116370ebe7ad] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] Fri Oct 20 04:32:35 CEST 2006 [04:32] last bug before sleep now ;-) [04:33] in this time I will listen to myself I hope :-) [04:34] s/in/and/ === scotth [n=scotth@24-50-250-179.pittpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-b1089d4333d36f7f] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] I hope this bug is a quick fix... [04:43] my nose tells me to go to bed I think... nosebleed etc... === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] FTBFS [04:46] gnight all === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-26ceb4c527565a11] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-251-19-77.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] Has edgy RC been released? [05:23] yes [05:29] boohoo.. An upgrade done. But my nice Human Theme (with brown tinges) which were present durng the BETA release has been replaced by the old Human theme :| [05:29] I mean Human Circle [05:30] during login [05:31] Ugh! Even the splash scren has been changed :-| [05:33] tuxmaniac, yea ubuntu artwork was reverted [05:33] ( not kubuntu or xubuntu or edubuntu ) [05:34] imbrandon> Oh ok. Any reasons? IMO they were looking cool [05:34] tuxmaniac, basicly it boiled down to sabdfl wasent happy with it and said he would rather have the old then a crappy ( in his opinion ) new [05:34] more details on the -art ML [05:35] imbrandon> Ugh oh === tuxmaniac goes to check the -art ML [05:37] they are planning on having new artwork I think [05:37] we can hope [05:37] they've got a few hours to get it done [05:38] LaserJock, the deadline is in a few hours [05:38] LaserJock> Hi man.. Looks like the edgy science packages are quite stable :D [05:39] tuxmaniac: a bit yes. I think [05:39] hum anyone know if there are powerpc computers for workstation/desktpop from IMB ( other than apples ) [05:39] what is the deadline? [05:39] IBM* [05:39] LaserJock, 12UTC today iirc ( maybe it was RC release, i know it was close ) === imbrandon opens kmail [05:41] hmm, well they contacted the doc team to say that they were changing the artwork [05:42] more last-minute changes [05:44] ugh i hate command line gpg , whats the quick way to decrypt a file [05:45] gpg -d ? [05:46] "Could not access GDM configuration file" Any idea why this error is happening. I have my gdm.conf file in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. But wehn i do a sudo gdmsetup this is the error [05:46] This is after the upgrade I did recentl [05:50] err.. I can see some similar bugs bug 62342 [05:50] Malone bug 62342 in gdm "gdmgreeter Failed to connect to socket" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62342 === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] LaserJock: are you around? [06:28] joejaxx: kinda yeah [06:29] LaserJock: do you know how much space installed whould all the *-dev verions of the packages on the current ubuntu cd take up? [06:30] heh, nope [06:30] a fair amount [06:30] too bad i cannot do : sudo apt-get install *-deev [06:30] *-dev :P [06:30] well, that's not a normal thing to do [06:30] yeah [06:31] actually the part you usually need in -dev package is a very small portion size-wise :-( [06:31] i will probably go through and pick out the core dev packages that are needed for compiling building programming etc [06:32] minghua: ? [06:32] joejaxx: what are you trying to do? [06:33] joejaxx: you usually only need the .so symlinks and the .h headers, but the part that needs most space in a -dev pacakage is the .a static librarys [06:34] LaserJock: trying to build a list of the most needed dev packages [06:34] needed by whom? [06:34] me [06:35] i know obvious stuff like xserver-dev [06:35] and the linux headers etc [06:37] $ du -sh [06:37] 7.9M . [06:37] $ find . -name "*.a" -exec rm {} \; [06:37] $ du -sh [06:37] 2.0M . [06:37] joejaxx: that's an example for you, libgtk2.0-dev in dapper [06:39] oh ok === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@59.92.163.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] ... [07:04] imbrandon: ? [07:05] gftp is gonna make me throw this laptop accross the room [07:08] try a different ftp client, then [07:09] filezilla just entered debian unstable [07:14] lftp FTW! [07:27] mc FTW === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-251-19-77.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-885ebca6b3cd3934] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] Does mc do FTP? [07:40] yup [07:40] on either side, or both [07:41] Ah. But does it do https? [07:48] dunno never tried [07:49] Heh. Lftp can. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] well i only have to ftp to art.u.c so i dont do it often [07:56] hopefully i can get by with mc ;) [07:57] ( and not have to learn something else ) [07:57] wow this convo is going as fast as email [07:57] lol [08:03] hh [08:03] heh [08:03] ajmitch: Do you get shaped, or must you pay extra for any quota over? [08:03] pay extra [08:03] Ouch. [08:03] Do you have any sites or content that is quota free? [08:03] ok, just killed X [08:03] nope, none at all [08:04] That must suck. [08:04] I at least have a quota free mirror for most Linux stuff, Ubuntu included. [08:04] yeah [08:04] we used to === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-106-42.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] elo ajmitch === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@87-196-14-196.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] hey viviersf [08:49] how's it going? [08:51] going well just playing around with some thing [08:51] there ? [08:51] fun [08:51] lol [08:51] tell me how does a backport work ? does some1 request a backport or what ? [08:51] yeah, a bug is opened against dapper-backports [08:51] kay [09:04] ajmitch, what are my chances of getting a UVFe for a rather obscure package at this stage? It won't start at all, the latest version (released 3 years ago) works fine. [09:08] what is the package, what are the changes? [09:08] if it doesn't start now, then you're not likely to break it any worse than it already is [09:09] transcalc, and that's what I thought... It can't get any more broken, plus this new one uses GTK2 and actually works. [09:10] The changes are fairly large, however... [09:10] file a bug anyway & explain your case [09:10] There's already a bug filed, but I'll put the appropriate UVFe stuff on there shortly. [09:10] ok [09:10] As you say, it can't break any worse than it already is. [09:11] anyone interested in some 1U rackmount servers? someone in my lug just offered them up for $200 ( has over 100 to sell ) , i can forward the email to anyone interested [09:11] ( rough specs, email has more, but p4 2.8ghz 80gig hdd 256mbram ) [09:12] Not bad. === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] yea , looks like a good deal, bunch of cluster nodes from an isp going out of business localy looks like [09:14] imbrandon: I'd love to, but shipping would be more than the servers [09:14] ajmitch, the shipping costs would be absolutely insane! [09:14] well i could always bring one or two to mtv if you really wanted one heh [09:15] yeah, I can't quite fit it in my suitcase ;) [09:15] wouldent want to bring 50 or some such hehe [09:15] yea thats what i was thinking [09:15] hehe [09:16] I'll be back in a bit, attacking this with a bigger HDD (which I obtained from an old school computer)... [09:16] man ftp is so slow, i wish i just had ssh access to the DC heh [09:16] Fujitsu, cool === Fujitsu eyes the three 320GB SATA drives in the primary file server at school. [09:16] LOL [09:17] on one drive in the school? no raid ? [09:17] s/on/only [09:17] RAID 5. [09:17] ahh , they will never miss one from the array ( snickers ) [09:17] well actualy only 3 they would miss one [09:17] Heheh, I don't think anybody other than me would notice. The proper technicians don't regularly check the servers :P [09:18] If you lose one from RAID 5, you're fine. [09:18] well yea but if there was 7 or 10 in the array it would be nicer [09:18] True. [09:18] Well, see you shortly! Hopefully the RC installer won't explode on me. [09:19] yea i'm installing RC on my laptop right now [09:19] hum i wonder if i should leave 5 gigs for osx [09:20] imbrandon: no [09:21] Burgundavia, ;P [09:22] imbrandon: no. [09:23] if you remove it i'll remove my osx partition too. it's just a waste of space anyway. I have it installed but i never use it. [09:23] sounds like a deal === imbrandon formats the whole drive [09:25] I'll have to reboot to a livecd, and do some magic. [09:26] yea i'm installing from RC so its not so bad [09:27] just backup my /etc/network/interfaces and go [09:27] ( for easy wep keys recovery ) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] brb.. livecd :] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-82-64.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] wow the live cd has lots of atrifacts [09:43] artifacts* [09:44] wonder if it detected the wrong video driver ( the previous edgy install worked ok ) === imbrandon waits for it to finish === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] hrm strange === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@59.92.197.243] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@86.73.86.179] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] "apt-get install realplayer" leads to "realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable". and "apt-cache policy xlibs" leads to "Candidate: (none)", on a dapper [10:17] seems like a broken package no ? [10:17] zorglu_, probably ( but you can also use the one from dapper-comercial that would be better imho ) === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] Yay, shiny old 40GB added to existing 20GB, using LVM. [10:19] imbrandon: what is the name of the one from commercial ? apt-cache policy realplayer shows only multiverse [10:20] you have to enable dapper commercial repo [10:20] i already have dapper commercial repo enable and updated [10:21] deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main [10:21] yeah i have it :) Hit http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial/main Packages <- from my previous apt-get update [10:21] zorglu_, realplay [10:21] thanks === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === benzai [n=zaheda@82-71-18-29.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] zorglu_: it is a known bug that multiverse package is not instalable on Dapper (bug #58554) [10:25] Malone bug 58554 in realplayer "Not installable" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58554 [10:26] noted === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1E4F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] good morning [10:29] morning daniel [10:29] hiya Andrew === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === snowblink [n=snowblin@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@pD9E288A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@86.73.86.179] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu makes a note to never create an LVM snapshot again. [11:15] That was a /big/ mistake. [11:15] initramfs EXPLODED! === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.161.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] lol === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu hugs the install CD... Nice rescue mode, though its LVM support sucks. [11:24] Hmm, that's the first time I hear bad words about LVM snapshots in this channel === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.161.5] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.161.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:28] minghua, I think they're a great idea, but not if they cause my machine to fail to boot. [11:31] Fujitsu: definitely. I am just surprised that you seem to be the only one having problems with it === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.161.5] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-82-64.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-39-110.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-145-223.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdthood [n=jdthood@x074.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-82-64.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin110239.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-251-19-77.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-251-19-77.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B29F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@41.134.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo [n=kelmo@madwifi/support/kelmo] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Gone] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-14-196.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] could anyone check and hopefuly confirm 66821, 66822, 66823 ? [02:46] don't those require freeze exceptions? === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@59.92.197.243] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] minghua: no, there are only Debian package release, not upstream release (so no UVF needed) === jpon [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Erm: [02:51] (from topic) [02:51] Edgy frozen: ALL Uploads need approval [02:51] lionelp: but we are in deep freeze, and all uploads needs approval no matter new UV or not [02:52] Fujitsu: That's right. [02:52] Fujitsu: maybe technically a sync is not an upload? ;-) [02:52] sorry [02:52] I thought UVF with free exceptions [02:52] yes, ok, needs approval === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@pD9E2A386.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] Stani, author of http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/python/spe said he would add the debian/ dir to his sources - is there a page that describes what files he needs, what his responsibilities are, etc? [03:02] CarlFK: it's highly bad to do it that way. [03:02] No, it isn't bad. Just awkward. [03:03] Neither Debian or Ubuntu are really okay with upstream also being the Debian maintainer. [03:03] it's at least discouraged [03:03] huh. [03:03] i figured that would be ideal [03:03] azeem: Yes, that's better wording. Ta. === StevenK notes he was the last person to touch spe. === fdoving [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] so why is it discouraged? [03:09] !packagingguide [03:09] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources === CarlFK clicks [03:10] CarlFK: see the section on changing the original tarball. http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-mistakes.html [03:11] Hobbsee, thanks for the enigmail upload :-) === pirast hugs Hobbsee [03:11] pirast: not a problem :) === Hobbsee should actually do some work, from time to time :P [03:13] yes you should [03:13] Hobbsee, is there anywhere a list which contains packages that need to be made for ubuntu ? [03:14] cypher1_: as in, new packages? [03:14] Hobbsee, yes [03:14] cypher1_: or unmet deps, or what? [03:14] er, yeah there is, somewhere [03:14] w.u.c/MOTU/candidates or something, iirc [03:14] do you have the URL ? === TankEnMate [n=frontdes@host86-142-209-198.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] whats the URI regular expression for a package's "hompage"? === ranok [i=Jared@gateway/tor/x-6e6c66980740ca26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] hello everyone [03:20] hi ranok [03:21] I've been trying to help out Ubuntu, in any way, and I thought that I could comment code [03:21] which would let me help out in a way that I couldn't screw anything up ;) [03:22] ranok: that seems ... odd [03:22] why would you say that [03:25] that way I can see how it's all pieced together [03:25] and eventually, I could contribute code [03:26] I would think the code authors would be the only ones that could make 'reliable' comments [03:26] perhaps [03:26] what do think I should do then [03:26] I can program in C++, C, Java, perl [03:26] though I'm not very confident [03:27] CarlFK, heh :) I have re-read comments I have added to code after five years and thought "which idiot wrote that?" :P [03:28] TankEnMate: I said you could, not that you do :) [03:28] ranok: find a package that you are interested in and look at the bug list for it.. write patches and submit them.. [03:28] alright [03:29] probably one of the easiest ways to get into it.. [03:30] you'll learn packaging, how the submit process works.. and get a general feel for how it works.. [03:30] ranok: don't be suprised if you first 10 or so patches get rejected.. [03:30] oh, I'm well prepared for that [03:30] ranok: just take the advice givn on board and keep hacking.. [03:30] heehee [03:30] alright [03:31] that sounds like it would work === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] oh and try and find a package that has an active maintainer rather than an orphaned package.. [03:32] black holes aren't so good on the feedback side :) [03:32] ranok: do you know how to make packages? [03:33] .debs? [03:33] nod [03:33] nope [03:33] I guess that's good place to start [03:34] https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [03:34] that is a good intro, if you know how to code, you should be able to muddle your way through it first time.. 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