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| CarlFK | duh? | 01:19 |
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| mpathy | Hi.. Is there some kind of release announcement for the 6.10 Ubuntu-Server? | 06:14 |
| infinity | I doubt it, since it's not been released. | 06:15 |
| infinity | (edgy isn't released yet) | 06:15 |
| mpathy | Yes, but something already prepared like at Ubuntu and Kubuntu | 06:18 |
| infinity | Nah, we didn't do an announce for the RC. | 06:29 |
| infinity | It was released, though. Same directory. | 06:29 |
| infinity | Feel free to test it. | 06:30 |
| infinity | And report bugs to me. :) | 06:30 |
| infinity | Don't expect any stellar changes or cool new stuff. -server got very little love this cycle, as I expect any sane server admins to keep running dapper. | 06:30 |
| mpathy | THAT would be an information for a Release Announcement :P ;) | 06:36 |
| infinity | The final release announcement will include an encouragement for people to consider keeping dapper, due to the 5 years' support and months we spent stabilising it, yes. | 06:37 |
| infinity | The RC announcement already said something like that for the desktop users, though not all that strongly-worded. | 06:38 |
| mpathy | okay ;) its because I set up a new server end of the month so I thought about using edgy but okay, I'll use dapper ;) | 06:38 |
| infinity | But we are generally encouraging anyone who needs long term support and solid stability to shy away from edgy. It was meant to be a "fun" "break the world" release, not something to base an enterprise network on. | 06:38 |
| mpathy | perhaps it should be considerd to release ubuntu-server online on LTR ;) | 06:41 |
| mpathy | -online +only | 06:42 |
| infinity | It's always online-only, we don't ship -server CDs in shipit. | 06:45 |
| infinity | Or if we do, that new and I'm not aware of it. | 06:45 |
| infinity | s/that/that's/ | 06:45 |
| mpathy | infinity: I meant only not online sorry | 06:53 |
| mpathy | I meant server editions only at LTRs | 06:53 |
| infinity | Oh, I see what you mean. | 07:02 |
| infinity | No, we'll continue to release it with regular Ubuntu releases, but I will make sure the release announcement has some wording to encourage people to stick with dapper unless they really want/need edgy. | 07:02 |
| infinity | (Which they might for hardware support, if nothing else) | 07:02 |
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| Znuff | Hello. How does one exactly install ubuntu-server? provided that it has the ubuntu 6.06 cd image? | 07:11 |
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| infinity | Well, one would assume you have the ubuntu-server ISO, not the plain ubuntu one? | 07:14 |
| infinity | If not, then go back to step 1. :) | 07:14 |
| Znuff | that's a flaw | 07:14 |
| Znuff | I always thought it's actually the same platform, but without -desktop packages | 07:15 |
| Znuff | guess I was wrong | 07:15 |
| infinity | It is the same, but the installation media is different. | 07:16 |
| infinity | Mainly to install different kernels, and ship different package sets. | 07:16 |
| infinity | You can, however, do a no-frills install from an ubuntu alternate CD, then swap kernels, and you're pretty much there. | 07:16 |
| infinity | You can't even hope to do a server install from the desktop/live CD (the one we ship with shipit), because its installer isn't really bright enough to make that happen. | 07:17 |
| Znuff | was actually trying to take "downloading another iso" out of the ecuation | 07:17 |
| porkpie | hi guy's ... just tried the latest release /ubuntu-6.10-rc-server-amd64.iso on a Dell Poweredge 1950 The install now see's the logical drive and installs but on reboot it hangs loading the kernel and I get Alert! /dev/sda1 doesn't exist Dropping into shell | 07:17 |
| Znuff | infinity, and I'm reading that there are issues with already-set-up lvm groups?! | 07:18 |
| infinity | porkpie: Are we missing a driver in the initrd, maybe? | 07:18 |
| porkpie | infinity:how can I check | 07:18 |
| infinity | porkpie: After the install, but before the reboot, you can check to see which driver is being used. (at another virtual console in the installer) | 07:19 |
| infinity | Then check to see if we're actually including it in the initramfs when it drops you to a shell. :) | 07:19 |
| porkpie | infinity:I am in the initramfs shell now | 07:20 |
| porkpie | it should include the megaraid_sas driver | 07:20 |
| infinity | As a general rule, if the installer works, but the installed system claims not to find your root drive, we either have a subtle bug somewhere that'll be a pain to find, or we're missing a driver. The latter is far more likely (and far easier to fix) | 07:20 |
| infinity | porkpie: cat /proc/modules and see if it's loaded. | 07:20 |
| infinity | porkpie: If not, try to modprobe it manually, and see if it exists. | 07:20 |
| infinity | porkpie: If it exists but isn't being loaded, we have a problem. If it doesn't exist at all, we have a different problem. If it's loaded but not working, problem number 3. | 07:21 |
| infinity | Find out which problem it is, and then we'll talk. | 07:21 |
| Znuff | infinity, regarding the "known issue" with already set-up lvm groups in the desktop cd... does the bug still exist in the server cd? | 07:22 |
| porkpie | infinity:sorry what the syntax for modeprobe ...I normally use FreeBSD :( | 07:22 |
| infinity | Znuff: No, the desktop CD's partitioner is defficient. The server CD uses debian-installer, which is much more robust. | 07:22 |
| infinity | porkpie: modprobe megaraid_sas | 07:22 |
| Znuff | then I guess I'm ok | 07:22 |
| porkpie | infinity:module megaraid_sas not found | 07:23 |
| Znuff | damn this will be a pain in the ass, download at 55k/s =( of all these days the FO could break... | 07:23 |
| infinity | porkpie: A quick glance here looks like we're just missing the module. | 07:23 |
| infinity | porkpie: Yeah. So, simple fix. | 07:24 |
| infinity | porkpie: You can boot the CD in recovery mode, mount your root partition, chroot to it, then "echo 'megaraid_sas' >> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and "update-initramfs -u" | 07:25 |
| infinity | porkpie: Then you should be able to boot fine. | 07:25 |
| infinity | porkpie: If that works, tell me, and I'll add it to the SCSI module list (so no one else has to do that hack) | 07:25 |
| porkpie | infinity:just doing it .....I have done that so many times | 07:25 |
| porkpie | infinity:it also not seeing the network interfaces either | 07:26 |
| porkpie | bnx2 drivers | 07:26 |
| infinity | The installer isn't? | 07:26 |
| porkpie | yeah the installer | 07:26 |
| infinity | Curious. | 07:26 |
| infinity | I don't know much about that driver, mind you. | 07:27 |
| porkpie | infinity:do I use chroot /target | 07:29 |
| porkpie | infinity:hmm! it will not let me add the module | 07:31 |
| porkpie | infinity:ok JUST REBOOTING | 07:34 |
| Znuff | infinity, ubuntu uses mysql4 or 5? | 07:37 |
| infinity | Znuff: 5. | 07:40 |
| Znuff | oh, then no change to the format of backup is needed | 07:40 |
| infinity | (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~$ apt-cache show mysql-server | grep ^Depends | 07:41 |
| infinity | Depends: mysql-server-5.0 | 07:41 |
| porkpie | infinity:It has booted now and I have got the interface up and have ran the apt-get update. I am now trying to install ssh but it keeps looking for the cdrom ...also gedit is coming back with commad not found | 07:43 |
| infinity | porkpie: Okay, we're well in the realm of "support questions" now. :) | 07:44 |
| infinity | If it's looking for the CD-ROM, and you don't like that, remove the cdrom entry from /etc/apt/sources.list, and gedit better not be found, since it's a GUI app, and ubuntu-server doesn't install X. | 07:45 |
| Znuff | so, I've backed up sql, /etc, named, and now files | 07:46 |
| Znuff | anywhere I should look for something else? | 07:46 |
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| KurtKraut | How can I run an identd ? | 08:42 |
| KurtKraut | I've installed nullidentd and properly set in /etc/inetd.conf but I have no clue how it should be runned. | 08:43 |
| infinity | If it runs from inetd, you don't need to "run" it at all. | 08:43 |
| infinity | inetd will spawn it when connection attempts come in. | 08:43 |
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| KurtKraut | infinity, when I run xchat and connect to freenode for instance it never gets my id. | 08:44 |
| KurtKraut | the same for all IRC networks. | 08:44 |
| KurtKraut | So I suppose it does not run when it should run | 08:44 |
| mpathy | does debbootstrap and cdebootstrap work now as it worked on Debian - but for Ubuntu? | 08:52 |
| mpathy | (sorry for my weird english *g*) | 08:52 |
| KurtKraut | anyone has any clue how I can configure a identd to reply to IRC servers ? | 08:52 |
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| Ries | are there any lvm2 configuration tools? | 11:14 |
| Znuff | "lvm" perhaps? | 11:17 |
| Ries | Znuff: yeaa just found it ...stupid me | 11:23 |
| Ries | I just did add this line to my fstab: /dev/vg1/lv1 /opt xfs defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 11:23 |
| Ries | I also see soem stuff about uuid.... I never seen that :) | 11:23 |
| Znuff | Ries, read up on the LVM howto at tldp.org | 11:23 |
| Ries | Znuff: it's working already... and xfs is install on top of lvm.. | 11:23 |
| Znuff | I'm taking care of LVM these days too | 11:24 |
| Ries | what is the uuid about and do I need it? | 11:24 |
| Znuff | no, you don't | 11:24 |
| Ries | is the uuid ubuntu specific, or is it used anywehre else? | 11:25 |
| ChaosFan | Ries: that's the "new and intuitive way" ;) | 11:26 |
| ChaosFan | of adressing devices | 11:26 |
| Ries | ChaosFan: is it a do or don't ? | 11:26 |
| Ries | at teh current point? | 11:26 |
| ChaosFan | it wants to become a do | 11:26 |
| ChaosFan | i personally don't like it | 11:26 |
| Znuff | it's interesting, anyway :P | 11:26 |
| Znuff | uuids are too long =/ | 11:26 |
| ChaosFan | exactly ;) | 11:26 |
| Znuff | mounting the partition/disk wherever on the bus is located sounds nice for me | 11:27 |
| Ries | hahah... ok, I think I can leave it for now | 11:27 |
| Ries | since I don't see myself moving drives... | 11:27 |
| Znuff | I mean, I don't think there's another usefull thing for UUIDs, or am I wrong? | 11:28 |
| ChaosFan | Znuff: when i saw the first uuid i decided for myself not to use it or investigate on its uses until i'm forced to ;) | 11:28 |
| Ries | I think you can use a label aswell | 11:29 |
| Znuff | I never set labels | 11:30 |
| Ries | never seen it :s | 11:31 |
| Znuff | installers usually set labels :) | 11:32 |
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