[12:01] <dtygel> raintheory: good question. Where do I check this?
[12:01] <dtygel> raintheory: you mean a jumper in motherboard?
[12:01] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: look under the heading for 64bit
[12:01] <javanick> Hello everyone! I have installed wine, but it does not recognize my swedish keyboard. Since I'm a newbie, I don't know where i set this. Can anyone please help me?
[12:01] <jaggz-> I didn't see the cdrom problem... what is it?
[12:01] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: actually, that is just for the plugin. One sec
[12:02] <spiderworm> raintheory: sorry, what are you referring to?
[12:02] <raintheory> dtygel, on the back of the CD-ROM drive itself
[12:02] <spiderworm> raintheory: my headphones problem?
[12:02] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: it appears to mention just above on what to do
[12:02] <raintheory> spiderworm,   sorry wrong person..   :P
[12:02] <spiderworm> ah k
[12:02] <DexterF> KristeK: what's the problem? you got no client on your desktop or ne daemon on your server?
[12:02] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:03] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: yes
[12:03] <KristeK> no daemon on my server!
[12:03] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: then it should be there
[12:03] <KristeK> i've tried sudo apt-get install amule
[12:03] <KristeK> but aparentely does nothing
[12:03] <dtygel> raintheory: I think it's ok: I put it as secondary master
[12:03] <DexterF> KristeK: amuled is not in the package?
[12:04] <dtygel> raintheory: you mean the jumpers for setting if master and slave, isn't it?
[12:04] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: could you pastebin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-cache search java?
[12:04] <KristeK> I need a step by step installation... can you pvt me?
[12:04] <wimpies> Any IPTables users that use --icmp-type ? It seems no longer supported or am I missing some config option ?
[12:04] <DexterF> KristeK: hell no :P see the wiki on amule.org on how to install step by step. or utsl.
[12:04] <raintheory> dtygel, yes...   how many CD drives do you have in there?
[12:05] <phanter> hey there.. a short question. Which filesystem was it again that allows to appear like one but actually excisting out of multiple hard disks?
[12:05] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ARzpKR36.html
[12:06] <dtygel> raintheory: only one. It boots, comes to the first screen. Then when I press enter, it goes and hang in the following line: "checking if image is initram..."
[12:06] <mcphail> phanter: i assume you are thinking of LVM
[12:06] <willys_fueguino> Hi!, Im on edgy and I have this error: Xlib; extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0 but I use xorg!, any ideas?
[12:06] <phanter> mcphail: that is exsactly waht I  mean.. thanks, I just could not remember it now :)
[12:06] <mcphail> :)
[12:07] <^Ocean^> okay, i seen to have 2 kernel drivers insatalled nvidiax and nvidiay  by default ubuntu is loading nvidiax but i want to remove that so it loads nvidiay instead
[12:07] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: have you done sudo apt-get update after changing your sources.list?
[12:08] <raintheory> dtygel,   hmm...
[12:08] <willys_fueguino> Hi!, Im on edgy and I have this error: Xlib; extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0 but I use xorg!, any ideas?
[12:09] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: when do you get that error?
[12:09] <raintheory> dtygel,   LiveCD?
[12:09] <apokryphos> not necessarily a problem, as there's still some modules/parts/whatever of Xorg with xfree names, I know
[12:09] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos, Every time I make an glxgears, glxinfom fglrxinfo, etc
[12:10] <apokryphos> willys_fueguino: and do they run properly?
[12:10] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: yes, but I can try again
[12:10] <apokryphos> good idea
[12:10] <whyso> how do i access direcrories with spaces in them via the shell?
[12:10] <dtygel> raintheory: live CD
[12:10] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos, yeap.
[12:10] <apokryphos> I wouldn't really worry about it then
[12:10] <jvai> is bastille needed for dapper's security? any1?
[12:11] <mcdonaldswes> whyso: you can use "\" before a space
[12:11] <apokryphos> whyso: either escape the space by prefixing it with a backslash, or use quotes for the name
[12:11] <dtygel> raintheory: I think it's something in bios not recognizing the cdrom... I really don't know. I don't know how to discover it
[12:11] <apokryphos> i.e. cd "some directory"
[12:11] <mcdonaldswes> whyso: but sometimes, it's easiest to use a regex to capture the dir name
[12:11] <cappe_> whyso: use tab-extensions..
[12:11] <dtygel> to diagnose it
[12:11] <whyso> ah ok thanks (being a programmer i should have thought of that :) )
[12:11] <mcdonaldswes> whyso: or rely on tab complete..
[12:12] <whyso> it would be REALLY cool if someone made a shell with rubytype syntax!
[12:12] <apokryphos> heh
[12:12] <apokryphos> what's really cool is fish :D
[12:12] <apokryphos> !info fish
[12:12] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.0-1 (dapper), package size 355 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[12:13] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: no dice
[12:13] <whyso> ah ty
[12:13] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: so I *should* be able to get it, right? (i.e. this isn't common to every Ubuntu 64-bit install)
[12:13] <raintheory> dtygel,   do you _need_ it to be the actual LiveCD?      If not, you could try the alternate iso
[12:14] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: I'm quite sure, yes. One sec.
[12:14] <cheesy> hi
[12:14] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: on the link provided, also, there are clearly amd64 debs
[12:14] <dtygel> raintheory: the problem is that it hangs before anything happens: still when loading root to ram image
[12:14] <Stormx2> Whats the best way of getting a PID from a process name?
[12:15] <dtygel> raintheory: linux doesn't boot, simply that
[12:15] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: you've *definitely* done a sudo apt-get update (which doesn't produce any errors), and then a apt-cache search java|grep sun??
[12:15] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: which link?
[12:15] <hitman> hello
[12:15] <apokryphos> Stormx2: pidof
[12:15] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: the one in the wiki
[12:15] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Thanks
[12:15] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/
[12:15] <sc0tt> how is ubuntu with old hardware?
[12:15] <sc0tt> :>
[12:15] <raintheory> dtygel,   oh okay..   you pulled the CD drive from a working PC though right?
[12:15] <sc0tt> and i'm talking
[12:15] <apokryphos> sc0tt: how old?
[12:16] <sc0tt> cyrix 686 - 200mhz chip
[12:16] <sc0tt> :>
[12:16] <sc0tt> :D
[12:16] <apokryphos> ouch, probably not great
[12:16] <sc0tt> >:D
[12:16] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: ah, I do get an error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KMTNdz56.html
[12:16] <sc0tt> I have a k6-2 450 chip as well
[12:16] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: should it be in dapper-security?
[12:16] <sc0tt> but i think i'd have to flash the bios
[12:16] <sc0tt> slackware installs fine on it :>
[12:16] <sc0tt> but i could get slack to install on a toaster if i wanted to
[12:16] <sc0tt> :D
[12:17] <dtygel> raintheory: right
[12:17] <sonics> hmm, anyone can tell me why, when I change my .bashrc to PS1=.. with colors... the end of lines in my terminals is way too short?!
[12:17] <sonics> cant even type to the end of a terminal :(
[12:19] <apokryphos> sc0tt: dang, can't seem to see the official statements on spec requirements anywhere :/
[12:19] <dtygel> raintheory: does that give some hint?
[12:19] <raintheory> dtygel,   you might want to try pulling any unnedded hardware from the box and seeing if it will boot.
[12:20] <whyso> whats an app like spacemonger for ubuntu (gives visual representation of space on your HD)
[12:20] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: nah, it wouldn't be there, but you want to make sure you get no errors, so remove (comment out) troublesome links
[12:20] <apokryphos> whyso: I always use filelight and I like it quite a bit
[12:20] <raintheory> dtygel,   it may be getting hung up on hardware if yr stuck at initramfs
[12:20] <dtygel> raintheory: hmmm, but small linux distros  boot from floppy
[12:20] <whyso> apokryphos: k ty :)
[12:20] <dtygel> raintheory: now I see what you mean!
[12:20] <Daviey> Hi, anybody and expert on scripting (ie Bash?)?
[12:21] <sc0tt> apokryphos: it just hung when booting the CD at the 'creating live user' part
[12:21] <dtygel> raintheory: good idea. What stuff should I get off? the HDs? what else? The ethernet card?
[12:21] <no0tic> what can I use to grab videos of my desktop?
[12:21] <cheesy> xvidcap
[12:21] <jelly> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:22] <Nyto-RJ> Hi guys...Newbie question...I got  a desktop and a laptop. They got ubuntu 6.06 installed and I want to set up a home lan. They are like before when they had winshit xp on them, connected to a HUB.
[12:22] <cheesy> no0tic: xvidcap
[12:22] <jelly> hmm
[12:22] <jelly> !mplayer
[12:22] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[12:22] <apokryphos> sc0tt: not too surprising, I'd say
[12:22] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:22] <qwer> hi all, aptitude always wants to purge the software I installed with synaptic. I keep aptitute up to date. Why is that and what can I do. this sucks so much.
[12:22] <spdf> no0tic: Yeh, xvidcap is decent
[12:22] <no0tic> thanks
[12:22] <Daviey> Nyto-RJ, What will be acting as the gateway/server?
[12:22] <raintheory> dtygel,   i'm not sure what you have in it and what you will need, but trial and error might be the only way to find out if its getting hung on hardware
[12:23] <Nyto-RJ> the thing is
[12:23] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: ok, I commented out dapper-security and still got nothing
[12:23] <no0tic> spdf, it is not in the repositories
[12:23] <sc0tt> apokryphos: me too :>
[12:23] <raintheory> dtygel,  how old is the pc?
[12:23] <whyso> apokryphos: neither google or synaptic search turning up anything on filelite :(
[12:23] <Nyto-RJ> i got adsl connection and they share it
[12:23] <sc0tt> i'll whack slack on it
[12:23] <mmcji> howdee
[12:23] <Enverex> Is 64bit Ubuntu out yet?
[12:23] <sc0tt> apokryphos: think 5.10 would make any difference?
[12:23] <sc0tt> Enverex: yup
[12:23] <apokryphos> whyso: that's because it's filelight ;-)
[12:23] <Nyto-RJ> the modem its connected to the hub and the 2 pc two...
[12:24] <Enverex> sc0tt, ah, thanks
[12:24] <apokryphos> sc0tt: not really
[12:24] <sc0tt> i have a disc over there for 64 bit
[12:24] <sc0tt> :)
[12:24] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: no errors this time?
[12:24] <qwer> is it at least possible to search for the packeges aptitude wants to purge??? so I can tell the programm to stop this
[12:24] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: no errors
[12:24] <mmcji> on a default install of 6.06 is there anything in the /opt directory ?
[12:24] <justmike> Hi everyone...I got some tunneling problems.
[12:24] <hitman> yo
[12:24] <hitman> whats up can anybody tell me were i can find hackers
[12:24] <whyso> apokryphos: oops there we go!
[12:24] <cheesy> mmcji: no
[12:24] <White_Castle> Can someone tell me how one uses a Makefile ples? :(
[12:25] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: not sure what to say other than you're *sure* sun java's not there?
[12:25] <hikenboot> hello all anyone know how to get nvidia 3d acceleration working on ubuntu
[12:25] <apokryphos> lasindi_lcps: if that's really the case I guess you can just download manually
[12:25] <apokryphos> hikenboot: check the FAQ
[12:25] <hitman> hackers ??
[12:25] <hitman> witch rook
[12:25] <Nyto-RJ> Does anybody know how to set up the lan
[12:25] <apokryphos> hitman: what?
[12:25] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: alright, I guess I might do that
[12:25] <Daviey> White_Castle, you should be able to use './configure' (if exsists) then 'make' (to build) then 'make install' to install
[12:26] <AsheD> !fixres
[12:26] <hitman> can you tell me  were i can find hackers
[12:26] <lasindi_lcps> apokryphos: thanks for the help anyway
[12:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:26] <justmike> I am trying to tunnel my e-mail with Evolution---it doesn't seem to work.  I am a newbie to Ubuntu.
[12:26] <slacktyro> hi all, i'm getting a problem with my sound system.....it works fine but if i change the volume at mixer it stop to work
[12:26] <dtygel> raintheory: its refurbished, with veery old parts
[12:26] <cheesy> hitman: you can find hackers in the garden
[12:26] <[-NoX-] > !seen Celeste
[12:26] <apokryphos> hitman: this is the Ubuntu support channel, for offtopic talk please head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <^Ocean^> okay, when my kernel autolaods a driver... what file do i need to modify so it pass's some info too the modules im loading  e.x modprobe bttv card=23
[12:26] <ubotu> I last saw Celeste (n=Celeste@85.237.25.82) 1d 10h 26m 31s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[12:26] <dtygel> raintheory: it seems like your idea worked!
[12:26] <mmcji> what do you mean by tunnel
[12:26] <White_Castle> Daviey: Just 'make' in the terminal?
[12:26] <Daviey> yes
[12:26] <raintheory> dtygel,   what did you pull from it?
[12:26] <White_Castle> Says command unrecognized
[12:26] <justmike> ssh port forwarding
[12:27] <Daviey> White_Castle,  you need to be in the directory of the source
[12:27] <apokryphos> White_Castle: Daviey: for those who don't know how to compile I really recommend first checking the FAQ entry on the matter
[12:27] <dtygel> raintheory: the 2 HDs
[12:27] <wimpies> where is the Ubuntu -egdy irc channel ?
[12:27] <apokryphos> wimpies: #ubuntu+1
[12:27] <raintheory> dtygel,   check the jumpers on the HDs
[12:27] <Nyto-RJ> PLEASE HELP...
[12:27] <dtygel> rainthoery: but I also lowered the RAM  in the F6 options
[12:27] <White_Castle> OK I will :)
[12:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Nyto-RJ about caps
[12:28] <whyso> turns out all my stuff was hiding in temp!
[12:28] <apokryphos> heh :)
[12:28] <apokryphos> whyso: so what do you think of filelight? ;-)
[12:28] <mmcji> you want to forward incoming requests? or do you want to forward the e-mail that you recieved to offsite server?
[12:28] <dtygel> raintheory: one is master and the other one is slave. They're both in IDE1 slot
[12:29] <whyso> its cool! although itl take some getting used to (the circular display)
[12:29] <dtygel> raintheory: oh no :( now it hung in the squashfs line...
[12:29] <squarepusher> how do I get KDE's "Open With" dialog box to accept a command-line executable and its arguments? Is this documented somewhere? My Google searches are blowing...
[12:29] <apokryphos> squarepusher: #kubuntu
[12:29] <slacktyro> hi all, i'm getting a problem with my sound system.....it works fine but if i change the volume at mixer it stop to work
[12:30] <justmike> the problem seems to be setting up the tunnels...but I've done it with Windows many times before and it works ok
[12:30] <raintheory> dtygel,  hmm
[12:30] <dtygel> raintheory: maybe I put to little RAM in the F6 boot options command. It seems not to be entirely hung, because the cd-rom is still working
[12:30] <cheesy> slacktyro: maybe some1 could help if youre question has more details
[12:31] <Yggdrasil> can somone gime a hand with this ?is there a way to make a floppy disk automount ?
[12:31] <dtygel> raintheory: yes! it came through squashfs line!
[12:31] <slacktyro> hi cheesy, i'm sorry but it's a little strange
[12:31] <dtygel> raintheory: I think it's because I put too little ram, and so it takes ages for any line...
[12:31] <raintheory> dtygel,   prob right
[12:32] <slacktyro> cheesy, i boot the system, everything work, but if i gone to mixer and change some volume, the sound stop to work and will only came back when i boot the system again
[12:32] <raintheory> dtygel,   so we dont know if it was the hard drives or you changing the F6 that did it
[12:33] <dtygel> raintheory: yes
[12:33] <UKMatt> to update to edgy, do you have to wait until the 26th to get the non-beta?
[12:33] <jelly> hmm, running xubuntu 6.06.1, I've added universe and multiverse repo's, pressed the reload button in synaptic and search still cannot find a mplayer package. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer suggests the package should be in multiverse.
[12:33] <menko> hi, when you use sudo/gksudo to open a program, what is the first file which is run before the program is started? I want to set some environment varibles before the application starts.
[12:33] <[H] 3b0R> hey ive installed the nvidia beta driver with the script and i have to reinstall it on every reboot, how do i fix it?
[12:33] <dtygel> raintheory: I'll first finish this boot, and then after I'll try with the HDs installed
[12:33] <whyso> is kde a fork of ubuntu?
[12:33] <White_Castle> I keep getting command not found when I try 'make' and then 'make install'
[12:33] <dabaR> yes
[12:33] <White_Castle> What's going on?
[12:33] <whyso> ( i mean kubuntu)
[12:33] <jelly> whyso: no.
[12:34] <raintheory> dtygel,   still booting?
[12:34] <apokryphos> whyso: not a fork, all Ubuntu and Kubuntu packages are in the same repositories
[12:34] <Hail_Spacecake> what is the command for bringing up a wireless network in ubuntu?
[12:34] <Daviey> White_Castle, do you have build-essential installed?
[12:34] <apokryphos> whyso: /msg ubotu kubuntu
[12:34] <White_Castle> Erm, no idea. :|
[12:34] <whyso> ah cool, then all my old apps should still work?
[12:34] <apokryphos> indeed
[12:34] <slacktyro> White_Castle: are you typing "./make" instead "make"?
[12:34] <whyso> nice :)
[12:34] <jelly> whyso: it's more or less a different subset of preinstalled packages.
[12:34] <dtygel> raintheory: veeeery slow :(
[12:34] <UKMatt> to update to edgy, do you have to wait until the 26th to get the non-beta?
[12:34] <White_Castle> No just 'make'.
[12:34] <apokryphos> UKMatt: yes
[12:34] <dabaR> Hail_Spacecake: what exactly do you mean?
[12:34] <Daviey> White_Castle, sudo apt-get install build-essential build-common
[12:35] <whyso> !tell UKMatt about schedlue
[12:35] <^Ocean^> is there an easy way to set up Grub ?
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schedlue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <apokryphos> set up?
[12:35] <whyso> hmmm misspelled that
[12:35] <^Ocean^> yes
[12:35] <UKMatt> whyso, i've seen it anyways
[12:35] <Hail_Spacecake> dabar: I want to bring up my wlan so I can use it
[12:35] <apokryphos> ^Ocean^: well it's set up by default
[12:35] <raeb> can anyone help me with my nvidia drivers ?
[12:35] <whyso> UKMatt: ah ok, sry
[12:35] <apokryphos> raeb: with what exactly?
[12:36] <slacktyro> my sound is make me crazy :(
[12:36] <Mad3Max3> I have a question about drivers for graphic... I got a onboard gfx on the Nforce chipset. Anyone know which drivers to install and how?
[12:36] <dtygel> raintheory: it booted!! yes! :)
[12:36] <raeb> every time i reboot, xserver says it can't find the nvidia.ko module
[12:36] <rm_you> when you make a raid with mdadm it becomes, say.... /dev/md0. Is that a DISK or a PARTITION? The guide I was following has me doing "mkfs.ext3 /dev/md0", but it seems like it's a DISK from what I can tell... help!?
[12:36] <dabaR> Hail_Spacecake: and you want to do it in the terminal?
[12:36] <dtygel> raintheory: now I'll tweak to know if it were the HDs or the memory
[12:36] <AsheD> I don't know who does the bot scripting, but the !fixres suggestion to 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart' doesn't seem to work, it just stops X, though I cannot be sure if that is just my computer
[12:37] <raintheory> dtygel,   great,
[12:37] <^Ocean^> Grub no matter what i seem to do will boot the correct hard drive by default.   it wants to boot /dev/hdd for some reason... even tho hdd dont exsist.  I have to press escap and manual edit the boot like so root=/dev/hda1  by default root=UUID=xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx or something like that not even readable so i dont even know what grubs trying to boot but its not the right drive
[12:37] <^Ocean^> sorry will = wont
[12:37] <dabaR> AsheD: you replaced the ? right?
[12:37] <apokryphos> ^Ocean^: /msg ubotu grub
[12:37] <cafuego> ^Ocean^: It's using the partition id. (or trying to) I don't know why this was thought to be a good idea for edgy.
[12:37] <marcrosoft> how many of you are now running edgy? ... should I wait until the final release?
[12:38] <AsheD> dabaR:: yes
[12:38] <raintheory> dtygel,  yeah let me know which it was...   couyld even be just one of the HDs or something
[12:38] <colder4545> i have a friend that I am sending an install CD to, he has a AMD sempron 3200, i can't figure out through google if i need the 32 or 64 bit ubuntu, he has no clue
[12:38] <sonics> hmm, anyone can tell me why, when I change my .bashrc to PS1=.. with colors... the end of lines in my terminals is way too short?!
[12:38] <dabaR> AsheD: and what did you do before that?
[12:38] <^Ocean^> greate but how do i configure grub to use the right hard drive ?
[12:38] <apokryphos> marcrosoft: no harm in trying the live (desktop) image
[12:38] <Mad3Max3> Noone that have installed grapicsdrivers?
[12:38] <White_Castle> Daviey: I get "E: Couldn't find package build-common
[12:38] <White_Castle> ".
[12:38] <sonics> if I dont use colors in bashrc its perfect =/
[12:38] <dtygel> raintheory: now rebooting: I wont change the options to see if it were the hds
[12:38] <AsheD> dabaR:: I just followed the instructions on how to change the resolutions
[12:38] <cafuego> colder4545: 32bit
[12:38] <colder4545> cafuego, thanks
[12:38] <dabaR> AsheD: what did you do exactly?
[12:38] <marcrosoft> apokryphos, i am having an issue with dbus/hal .. and im wondering if an upgrade might fix it :)
[12:39] <White_Castle> I'm on ubuntu 5.10
[12:39] <AsheD> dabaR:: I was able to restart X because I remembered the command used, and it seemed to work after that, it just didn't auto-restart like I expected
[12:39] <cafuego> colder4545: The 64bit will wok, but he will have problems with java, video and flash.
[12:39] <apokryphos> marcrosoft: perhaps, perhaps not
[12:39] <NetHaxor> who i connect to internet without typing "pon dsl-provider" ???
[12:39] <dabaR> AsheD: that command works here
[12:39] <Mad3Max3> graphics drivers ppl.. please help
[12:39] <cafuego> NetHaxor: Check the 'ppp info in man 5 interfaces;
[12:39] <NetHaxor> how do i connect to internet without typing "pon dsl-provider" ???
[12:39] <colder4545> so it is a 64 bit, the info on google was really confusing
[12:39] <NetHaxor> ok
[12:39] <AsheD> dabaR:: then I will assume it is my PC, and bow out
[12:40] <Mad3Max3> the graphics are terrible. it's lagging terrible
[12:40] <dabaR> Hail_Spacecake: and you want to get the wireless connected in the terminal?
[12:40] <cafuego> colder4545: Yep, the current semprons (Socket 754) all are. It's just that Linux 64bit isn't that great for the desktop :-)
[12:40] <cafuego> colder4545: I run 32bit on mine too.
[12:40] <joe__> can you run smp with 32 bit?
[12:40] <Daviey> White_Castle, do you have your repo's enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell mad3max3 about nvidia
[12:40] <cafuego> joe__: why not?
[12:41] <mmcji> what do ya'll think about easyubuntu?
[12:41] <NetHaxor> how do i make a script that connects me automatictly to the internet when i start my pc??
[12:41] <colder4545> cafuego, good deal, so if he dual booted into windows he would have to have the 64-bit XP?
[12:41] <mmcji> im coming to ubuntu from freebsd
[12:41] <cafuego> NetHaxor: Check the 'ppp info in man 5 interfaces;
[12:41] <BlueEagle> mad3max3: ubotu should have sendt you a message. If you've got any problems other than that please feel free to ask.
[12:41] <Max_-> I did what they say on http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg25t09.htm and it looks good... but when I try https://localhost/ it doesn't work!!!  What did I forget?
[12:42] <Mad3Max3> what is the terminal command to get kernel name and such.. something like enum or
[12:42] <cafuego> colder4545: No, microsoft haven't actually sold that to anyone (there pretty much are no drivers for it still)
[12:42] <White_Castle> Daviey,  how do I know that they're enabled?
[12:42] <colder4545> cafuego, wow, should i tell him not to order the chip then?
[12:42] <LjL> Mad3Max3: uname
[12:42] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: uname -t
[12:42] <Daviey> White_Castle, they will be missing the '#'  ie you sould have no # deb ......
[12:42] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: uname -r even
[12:42] <Mad3Max3> thats it .. thanks
[12:42] <White_Castle> Oh ok, I'll do that
[12:43] <cafuego> colder4545: No, the chip is fine, just run 32bit software on it <heh>
[12:43] <White_Castle> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:43] <White_Castle> should be
[12:43] <White_Castle> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:43] <White_Castle> right?
[12:43] <Daviey> White_Castle, then do a sudo apt-get update (this will update your database from the new repos)
[12:43] <colder4545> cafuego, ok thanks a bunch, that probably saved me a couple hours of headaches!
[12:43] <Daviey> Whatsisname,  correct
[12:43] <Daviey> White_Castle, correct
[12:43] <anon32> gah, I can't burn in SAO mode with K3b, what might the problem be?
[12:43] <anon32> it works fine in gnomebaker
[12:44] <White_Castle> thanks
[12:44] <dtygel> raintheory: I'm still without the HDs, but it didn't work when I let the options untouched...
[12:44] <Whatsisname> What
[12:45] <sholden> If I install Edgy Eft Beta, will apt-get dist-upgrade upgrade everything when the final version comes out?
[12:45] <sholden> (will it be just like I installed the final, or will I have to reinstall?)
[12:45] <anon32> burning in SAO mode fails with K3b even though my recorder supports SAO, what should I do?
[12:45] <raintheory> dtygel,   hmmm...    have you tried re-seating the physical RAM?   not sure if that would make a difference
[12:45] <cafuego> sholden: it will upgarde to the final version
[12:45] <sholden> OK great.
[12:46] <sholden> Thanks
[12:47] <slacktyro> My problem is this:  i boot the system, the sound work fine, but if i gone to any mixer and change some volume, the sound stop to work and will only came back when i boot the system again, how can i solve it?
[12:47] <dtygel> raintheory: what do you mean? in bios? do you think that is the problem?
[12:47] <dabaR> slacktyro: does the sound work now?
[12:47] <raintheory> dtygel,   i mean actually take the RAM out of the system and put it back in?
[12:47] <anon32> has anyone here encountered problems with SAO writing?
[12:47] <mmcji> what do ya'll think about easyubuntu?  I'm coming to ubuntu for desktop use from FreeBSD.
[12:47] <Max_-> I did what they say on http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg25t09.htm and it looks good... but when I try https://localhost/ it doesn't work!!!  What did I forget?
[12:47] <slacktyro> dabaR: no, i try to change the volume and it stopped
[12:48] <Seveas> !easyubuntu
[12:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:48] <LjL> mmcji: we generally think it's better to read the documentation.
[12:48] <dabaR> slacktyro: in what program did you change the sound? Do you have gmail open?
[12:48] <Ademan> anyone know why the heck GDM would say "cannot start splash, no suitable theme for 1920x1440" even though there's no such resolution either in my xorg.conf nor my system->preferences->screen resolution
[12:48] <slacktyro> dabaR: i try to use gnome mixer, alsamixer
[12:48] <slacktyro> dabaR: do you mean gmail account?
[12:48] <raintheory> dtygel,   could be something like that in bios, or could be that the physical connections for the ram have crept a bit, or may be a bit of dust...    worth a try taking it out and putting it back in
[12:49] <dabaR> slacktyro: post the output of lsof /dev/snd* /dev/dsp* to the paste.ubuntu-nl.org pastebin, please.
[12:49] <dabaR> slacktyro: a browser with gmail open in it.
[12:49] <raintheory> dtygel,   you'd be suprised how often thats fixed weird things for me
[12:49] <len> how can I set a variable in linux for good, like $JAVA_HOME?
[12:49] <White_Castle> Thanks alot Daviey, it works now. :)
[12:49] <mmcji> LjL: if have tested easyubuntu and loaded it on three laptop's, seems to work well, but I though there was a better way to install support for multimedia and this would be the best place to ask.
[12:49] <dabaR> len: add it to the /etc/bash.bashrc file
[12:50] <^Ocean^> how do i add options to kernel modules that are auto-loaded at boot time ?
[12:50] <LjL> len: use "export VARIABLE=value" to set it. if you want it to stay, look at ~/.bashrc
[12:50] <mmcji> LjL: sorry, ment to say I have installed....lol
[12:50] <len> ty
[12:50] <anon32> is there a place for K3b support (and not #k3b)?
[12:50] <Daviey> White_Castle, Good stuff!  Next thing to do is learn how to make .debs!  then you can add and remove & upgrade easyier!
[12:50] <White_Castle> :O
[12:51] <anon32> GAH! Why am I the only one being ignored?
[12:51] <LjL> mmcji, yes, we simply believe that reading the official documentation and understanding the steps involved is better than using automatic scripts that don't help you understand what you're doing, and may be broken themselves.
[12:51] <dabaR> we dont like you
[12:51] <len> export VARIABLE or export $VARIABLE?
[12:51] <LjL> mmcji: for multimedia, for instance
[12:51] <SpaceFrog> I'm trying to compile and install something i've downloaded, but when I type "make" i get this: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:51] <LjL> !tell mmcji about multimedia
[12:51] <slacktyro> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27386/
[12:51] <LjL> len: no $
[12:51] <LjL> len: only when using variables you have to prefix them with $
[12:52] <LjL> len: when setting them, not
[12:52] <dabaR> anon32: in seriousness, though, cause we do not know the answer to your question
[12:52] <whyso> when i log in it says cannot load /HOME.drmc file to get default session, AND the login screen initially shows static at top and i have to scroll down to get to edit sessions, AND cant edit monitor settings from KDE :(((((((
[12:52] <anon32> :-(
[12:52] <dabaR> slacktyro: hm...how about the output of amixer?
[12:52] <dtygel> raintheory: it's the memory size in F6 boot options from ubuntu, definitely
[12:52] <bruenig> is the release candidate supposed to be out today?
[12:52] <^Ocean^> how do i add options to kernel modules that are auto-loaded at boot time ? for example when my computer starts it loads bttv but if i wanna use it, i have to sudo rmmod bttv then sudo modprobe bttv card=12  how can i make it so my kernel audo loads bttv with card=12 ?
[12:53] <mmcji> LjL: thank you very much for the assistance!
[12:53] <whyso> could anyone posssibly help??
[12:53] <dtygel> raintheory: I've tried several different things: changed configs in bios, and so on. Only setting ram size do 32000 works...
[12:53] <slacktyro> dabaR: it show the volume levels
[12:53] <dabaR> bruenig: visit ubuntu.com and read on the right hand side there are some news links
[12:53] <dabaR> slacktyro: post the whole thing to the pastebin
[12:53] <raintheory> dtygel,   weird..   very odd.
[12:53] <slacktyro> ok
[12:53] <mmcji> I will read the documentation at the url you sent..thanks again
[12:54] <dtygel> raintheory: very very odd
[12:54] <Dextorion> hi. What would be a good choice on a ftp server for a desktop machine?  Nothing fancy, bu i wish to set up a account for me, and one guest account. :)
[12:54] <dtygel> raintheory: I tried also other sizes, like 256000 or 512000... only 30000 worked...
[12:54] <slacktyro> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27387/
[12:54] <ivx> hey i installed frostwire useing the .deb package but it won't open. i click it and nothing happens.
[12:54] <raintheory> dtygel,   32000 or 30000?
[12:55] <raintheory> how much physical ram do you have ?
[12:55] <bruenig> ivx, open a terminal, and try "frostwire" see if it will launch
[12:55] <dabaR> slacktyro: what does running esd in a terminal do?
[12:55] <anon32> say, reading my debug logs, I get Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[12:56] <whyso> could someone please help me with one of my issues? id appreciate it
[12:56] <dabaR> brb
[12:56] <anon32> can someone explain that and recommend a fix?
[12:56] <raeb> whyso: what's the issue?
[12:56] <ivx> bruenig, yeah it is saying some stuff about i dont' have jre
[12:56] <bruenig> ivx, you need to get jre then
[12:56] <slacktyro> dabaR: nothing
[12:57] <bruenig> !info sun-java-bin
[12:57] <ivx> bruenig do i just do apt-get jre
[12:57] <ubotu> Package sun-java-bin does not exist in any distro I know
[12:57] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-bin
[12:57] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[12:57] <bruenig> ivx, have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[12:57] <dtygel> raintheory: 32000
[12:57] <ivx> bruenig yes so will apt-get do it then
[12:57] <whyso> when i log in it says cannot load /HOME.drmc file to get default session, AND the login screen initially shows static at top and i have to scroll down to get to edit sessions, AND cant edit monitor settings from KDE :(((((((
[12:57] <bruenig> ivx, do apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[12:58] <ivx> bruenig alright thank you
[12:58] <raintheory> dtygel,   how many MB of physical RAM is actually in the computer?
[12:58] <raeb> hmm
[12:58] <jvai> u kno what? java works fine in knoppix, is there a way to extract it from knoppix?
[12:58] <dtygel> raintheory: it's really strange though. Now it didn't work even with 32000 in the size when I set in bios the multiplicity of 8x100Mhz to give 800MHz (it worked with 3.5x100MHZ)
[12:58] <dtygel> raintheory: 256MB, 100MHZ
[12:58] <slacktyro> dabaR:do you know what can it be?
[12:59] <SpaceFrog> is there a ubuntu version of emerge?
[01:00] <raeb> that's a toughy whyso, i can't really help you  =\
[01:00] <raeb> sorry
[01:00] <dabaR> slacktyro: if you esd it gives no output? does it just hang there?
[01:00] <LjL> SpaceFrog: don't think. what are you intending to do?
[01:00] <raeb> there are some posts on the ubuntu forums you might wanna give a read
[01:01] <dtygel> raintheory: I think the problem is in the RAM slots in the motherboard... so, hardware :(
[01:01] <SpaceFrog> LjL: I'm trying to ./configure something and it needs XML::Parser
[01:01] <slacktyro> dabaR: exactly
[01:02] <dabaR> slacktyro: let it hang and try playing sound.
[01:02] <raintheory> dtygel,   i was thinking that...   thats why i mentioned taking the RAM out and putting it back in
[01:02] <apokryphos> SpaceFrog: what are you trying to compile?
[01:02] <jelly> SpaceFrog: use apt-cache search XML::Parser to find the package containing it.
[01:02] <whyso> raeb: thanks anyways!
[01:03] <LjL> SpaceFrog: just guessing... the package you want to install might be libxml-parser-perl for that.  anyway, if you want to compile source packages automatically, that *can* be done, a bit like (what i believe) emerge does. but... the package concerned has to be in the repositories in the first place!
[01:03] <raintheory> dtygel,   maybe even but the RAM in one strip at a time (if you have more than 1) to see if one of the strips is bad
[01:03] <jelly> SpaceFrog: perl module packages are usually called libfoo-bar-perl
[01:03] <slacktyro> dabaR: still don't work
[01:03] <calctech> Can the GUI installer on the LiveCD work on a PC with only 192MB RAM?
[01:03] <ivx> bruenig do i need to reboot or anything after i install that
[01:03] <dabaR> slacktyro: no, no idea what is wrong.
[01:03] <jelly> SpaceFrog: in your case, that could be libxml-parser-perl
[01:03] <LjL> calctech: yes, with a little difficulty, but it should.
[01:03] <slacktyro> dabaR: but the esd returned
[01:03] <Mad3Max3> thats crap.. it doesn't work even thou im following the instructions on the page
[01:03] <bruenig> no
[01:03] <dtygel> raintheory: I have only one. But now I tried it in different slots, and it doesn't work. Only in one of them! So, who guarantees that this single one slots works well?
[01:03] <dabaR> slacktyro: did you ask crimsun? ask him when you see him if you did not ask him already
[01:04] <dtygel> raintheory: I know the memory is good because I used it in another machine
[01:04] <ivx> bruenig it is still doing that same thing
[01:04] <bruenig> ivx, what is it saying when you run it?
[01:04] <dtygel> raintheory: maybe some jumpers in mother board? or no hope? it just came from the technical today!
[01:04] <agent> what command does one use to find out which package owns a certain file on a system?
[01:04] <SpaceFrog> Thanks guys, I installed libxml-parser-perl, but I'm getting a different error now: You must have libxml2 >= 2.6.0 development headers installed to build Gaim.
[01:04] <slacktyro> dabaR: i don't remember to talk with him yet, thank you for the help
[01:04] <LjL> agent: dpkg -S filename
[01:04] <agent> LjL: thank you!
[01:05] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: 'sudo apt-get build-dep gaim'
[01:05] <jelly> SpaceFrog: why not just use gaim from the distro?
[01:05] <SpaceFrog> I'm trying out the beta
[01:05] <anon32> SpaceFrog, and for that one, you need libxml2-dev
[01:05] <raintheory> dtygel,   jumpers are a possibility...   I really wouldn't know where to tell you to start with those though
[01:05] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: Of course, you could simply use the packaged version. (There are beta apckages, yes)
[01:05] <SpaceFrog> there are RPM's, yeah.
[01:05] <ivx> bruenig it won't do anything when i click the icon. when i run it trought the terminal it says i don't have valid jer
[01:05] <LjL> SpaceFrog, when someone here mentions packages that you might install, they'll hardly ever be RPM ;)
[01:06] <slacktyro> whereis alsaconf at ubuntu
[01:06] <slacktyro> ?
[01:06] <bruenig> ivx, it shouldn't being do that. You have your jre, it should work. So beats me
[01:06] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: I don't do rpm.
[01:06] <raintheory> dtygel,  it may even be possible that the RAM suffered from a static discharge or something while moving it from one PC to another...    I've had that happen to me more than once
[01:06] <ivx> bruenig alright i'll play with it thanks though
[01:06] <jelly> SpaceFrog: what cafuego said is probably the easiest way to install all the required development packages.
[01:07] <cafuego> SpaceFrog: But for instance, you could use the gaim seb-src from edgy.
[01:07] <Mad3Max3> BlueEagle - I get error message when I try to start the drivers.. u know how to install a Geforce 6150 GPU?
[01:07] <LjL> !gaim2
[01:07] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[01:07] <vos> Is there a wireshark pkg for Ubuntu?
[01:07] <LjL> !info wireshark
[01:08] <Mad3Max3> Blueeagle : get this message - Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[01:08] <Mad3Max3> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[01:08] <ubotu> Package wireshark does not exist in any distro I know
[01:08] <LjL> vos: there is in Edgy, which will be out in a week
[01:08] <jelly> vos: it was called ethereal before... that's the name for dapper
[01:09] <Mad3Max3> Anyone?
[01:09] <cafuego> Bueller?
[01:09] <kitche> jelly: well ethereal still exists
[01:09] <raintheory> cafuego, lol!
[01:09] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Are you on edgy or dapper?
[01:09] <LjL> oh they're renamed ethereal...?
[01:09] <kismet_> Hi, I've been having multiple problems with the Login Screen not coming up, either after booting, or after Logout. Where might I find an error log for this, or how might I solve this issue?
[01:09] <raintheory> cafuego, that was good
[01:09] <jelly> kitche: what, in edgy?  Probably a dummy package.
[01:09] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, edgy
[01:09] <vos> LjL: Edgy out in a week?
[01:09] <vos> jelly: yeah!
[01:09] <LjL> !schedule > vos
[01:09] <kitche> jelly: don't know about in edgy but ethereal the project still exists
[01:10] <raintheory> !schedule > raintheory
[01:10] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Edit /etc/modpobe.d/lrm_video and comment out the lines without comments in front of them.
[01:10] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:10] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Then run 'sudo modprone --ignore-install nvidia'
[01:10] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:10] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: 'modprobe' even
[01:11] <bruffy> can somebody help me with kpackage?
[01:11] <LjL> kitche: judging from the wireshark.org website, though, it just appears to have been renamed
[01:11] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego , ok.. I shall check.. one min
[01:11] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: it will work, i did it yesterday :-)
[01:11] <LjL> bruffy: maybe and maybe not -- you should ask your question. but i'm not sure using kpackage is such wise a choice, why don't you use Adept?
[01:11] <kitche> LjL: maybe I just know that ethereal got updated the same day as wireshark new version came out
[01:12] <jelly> kitche: Yeah, well, afaict Ethereal is going to be the commercial branding, while the free one is renamed.
[01:12] <soobnauce> whats the best music player for ubuntu
[01:12] <soobnauce> a lot of people say xmms
[01:12] <LjL> !best
[01:12] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:13] <cheesy> !codecs
[01:13] <dtygel> raintheory: all that is so weird... anyway, we came close now to a diagnostic. I must render it again to the techical :(
[01:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <johannari> does anyone know if I can install mysql 5.0 using apt on Hoary
[01:14] <cafuego> johannari: no.
[01:14] <raintheory> dtygel,   well it was nice working with you on it!   :)
[01:14] <kitche> LjL, jelly nevermind wireshark is ethereal now :)
[01:14] <lws> which package is needed to get /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build
[01:14] <agent> does anyone know what package installs /etc/default/console-setup? dpkg -S show nothing, neither does searching on packages.ubuntu.com o_O
[01:14] <johannari> cafuego: it's not possible?
[01:15] <kitche> lws: in reality that should point to your linux-source
[01:15] <cafuego> lws: linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[01:15] <dtygel> raintheory: I must thank you a lot for "being there" :)
[01:15] <len> hi, I have this friend here trying to install Ubuntu
[01:15] <cafuego> johannari: it's possible, but far more trouble than it's worth.
[01:15] <CarlFK> how come I cant find file-zilla in the repos? http://packages.ubuntu.com - i thought I had installed it from there... ?
[01:15] <johannari> cafuego: ok....thanks
[01:15] <len> but in the mid of instalation it stops
[01:15] <dtygel> reaintheory: whenever you need something, just say :)
[01:15] <len> what should I do?
[01:15] <cafuego> johannari: (ie: you need to do a backport from dapper sources)
[01:16] <johannari> cafuego: oh hell no
[01:16] <raintheory> dtygel,   no problem, glad i was able to help you out at least a little bit
[01:16] <lws> cafuego, kitche: thanks
[01:16] <cafuego> johannari: Yah ;-)
[01:17] <agent> nm... i think i figured it out... it is created console-setup configure script :/
[01:17] <raintheory> dtygel,   at least to diagnose a bit for lack of getting it to actually work, heh
[01:17] <sc0tt> apokryphos: actually looks like its starting to run alright
[01:17] <sc0tt> :P
[01:17] <sc0tt> 200mhz chip/100mb ram
[01:17] <sc0tt> :>
[01:17] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego, what shall I do in that file.. lrm-video?
[01:18] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Just comment it out - all of it.
[01:18] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: its rules are making the moprobe fail.
[01:18] <ubuntu> ok i have 2 harddrives and i want linux on one and my windows on another...will that work?
[01:18] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego, so it will be a blank file then..
[01:18] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Yup. (You could delete it too, but I prefer to keep mine)
[01:18] <Mad3Max3> Cafuego, even the load statment
[01:19] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: yup
[01:19] <LjL> agent: i'm not sure... i guess files in /etc/default may get created by the postinst script. i guess the package that's actually responsible for that file is console-setup anyway
[01:19] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: :%s/^/\# /g
[01:20] <soobnauce> what version of xmms would i download for ubuntu? debian?
[01:20] <ubuntu> i mean i dont want to lose anything that is already on windows....will it cause me to lose files from windows if i install linux to the slave drive?
[01:20] <agent> LjL: yes it is... thank you again... i just backed up the file and ran reconfigure (see my msg above)
[01:20] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, and then what?
[01:20] <kitche> soobnauce: it's in the repos
[01:20] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: sudo modprobe --ignore-install nvidia
[01:21] <kitche> !xmms
[01:21] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:21] <LjL> soobnauce: you don't manually "download" packages. you just use the appropriate APT frontend to have them automatically fetched and installed.
[01:21] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee80211 subsystem in Ubuntu, and looking for the readme file that is supposed to be included in the tgz, but isn't there. Where is it?
[01:21] <LjL> soobnauce: try typing "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:21] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: That will load it now, the file editing means it will autoload next time.
[01:21] <soobnauce> ok, ill try that
[01:21] <Mad3Max3> cafugeo, ok.. im testing it.. brb
[01:22] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, how can I see if it is running?
[01:22] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: lsmod | less (see 2nd line)
[01:22] <slacktyro> dabaR: i found something strange
[01:23] <slacktyro> dabaR: can i paste it?
[01:23] <re-align> slacktyro, use the pastebin
[01:23] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Then just retsart gdm; /sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:23] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, Module                  Size  Used by
[01:23] <Mad3Max3> nvidia               4552308  0
[01:24] <sentinel> Hi... I'm trying to configure Ubuntu to not start powernowd when during boot, because it lags my whole system. Could someone tell me where I do such configurations?
[01:24] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, <sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart> ?
[01:25] <cafuego> yep, that will start X and give you  alogin screen
[01:25] <slacktyro> dabaR:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27391/
[01:25] <Ademan> how can i start my how can i choose my default window manager?
[01:25] <soobnauce> sweet thanks ljl... im a super noob with linux
[01:26] <Ademan> soobnauce: you'll pick it up quick, the way its designed makes... so much sense... you just have to get used to it
[01:26] <LjL> soobnauce: i had the bot send you another message that tells you what are, and how you can enable, other repositories. if you decide to enable all of them, you'll have around 20000 packages available through Synaptic or apt-get
[01:26] <re-align> Anyone here besides me mount an ntfs partition with the fusermount? (the command line is sudo ntfsmount <insert device here> <insert target folder here> <insert switches and options here>)
[01:26] <indref> Second Life time! :D
[01:26] <wheels3572> Where can I find a program that will archive mail and save it?
[01:26] <indref> I've worked my butt of to make my video card work.
[01:26] <indref> Now to put it to use.
[01:27] <indref> How do I install?!
[01:27] <Ademan> indref: install what?
[01:27] <indref> Ademan, Second Life. I have a file called SecondLife_i686_1_12_2_9.tar.bz2
[01:28] <jelly> does anyone have mplayer in 6.06?
[01:28] <Ademan> oh, extract it to a folder
[01:28] <Ademan> then open up a console
[01:28] <Ademan> type ./configure
[01:28] <Ademan> make
[01:28] <Ademan> sudo make install
[01:28] <indref> Ademan, Hold the phone.
[01:28] <jelly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer says it should be in multiverse, but it isn't.
[01:28] <indref> Ademan, One step at a time :D
[01:28] <Ademan> (you need to be IN the folder you extracted second life to though
[01:28] <re-align> Usually there's a readme inside the archive somewhere...
[01:28] <Ademan> you should be able to right click on the archive and hit extract here
[01:29] <sentinel> Hi. Anyone able to tell me where to configure what modules to start during boot? I want to disable powernowd since it lags my computer. I'm fairly noob
[01:29] <Ademan> actually, lemme think about this, maybe you should use checkinstall, its the "better" way to do it, its a bit more complicated though
[01:29] <indref> I just want it to work.
[01:29] <Ademan> well if you ever plan on uninstalling, you should use checkinstall
[01:30] <whyso> kubuntu in system settings it says it cannot load my display driver :( help?
[01:30] <cafuego> sentinel: sudo update-rc.d -f powernowd remove
[01:30] <sentinel> thanks!
[01:30] <Ademan> indref: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/
[01:30] <Ademan> i've got to go though
[01:30] <cafuego> sentinel: Same command applies to any files in /etc/init.d/ (You can check if they start via ls /etc/rc2.d/)
[01:30] <indref> This is slow to extract..
[01:30] <indref> Ademan, You're kidding.
[01:31] <Ademan> you might need to run "sudo apt-get checkinstall" from a console to get checkinstall
[01:31] <sentinel> I have a dell inspiron laptop. What is the best alternative for powernowd... I got the impression its pretty good to have running for minimal powerconsuption
[01:31] <Ademan> brb
[01:31] <indref> Ademan, What the hell is checkinstall?
[01:31] <Ademan> makes it easy to uninstall
[01:31] <Ademan> packages
[01:31] <Ademan> or update them
[01:31] <Ademan> etc
[01:31] <sentinel> thanks cafuego... I'll check it out
[01:31] <indref> Well ok.
[01:31] <cafuego> Ademan: secondlife doesn't do an install as such, it runs froma  single dir (that the user needs write access to)
[01:31] <indref> I'll get that next.
[01:31] <Ademan> cafuego: oh, then maybe he should just ./configure && make
[01:32] <LogicalDash> Where can I get the README file for the ieee80211 subsystem?
[01:32] <cafuego> Ademan: If it did wok properly, I'd have a package :-)
[01:32] <Ademan> cafuego: can you work with him i've really gotta go
[01:32] <cafuego> Ademan: Just tar xfz; cd ./secondlife
[01:32] <indref> Ademan, Thank you :D
[01:32] <sonics> hi all
[01:32] <sonics> =)
[01:33] <cafuego> indref: Right click the file and "Extract Here".
[01:33] <indref> cafuego, It's extracted now :D
[01:33] <cafuego> indref: ok, open a terminal and cd to that dir. Then run ./secondlife
[01:34] <indref> so in the dir I type "run ./secondlife"
[01:34] <sonics> i got a problem, I got 2 videocards within my laptop.. And now I made 2 different xorg.conf files (one named xorg_stamina.conf and one xorg_speed.conf) what do I have to do now to let the right one be copied upon rebooting?
[01:35] <cafuego> indref: yup
[01:35] <sonics> one is nvidia and one is intel onboard card
[01:35] <indref> Command not found.
[01:35] <cafuego> indref: what's in that dir?
[01:35] <indref> app_settings      fonts          licenses.txt      secondlife      unicode.ttf
[01:35] <indref> bin               gpu_table.txt  lsl_guide.html    SecondLife
[01:35] <indref> character         help           releasenotes.txt  secondlife.ico
[01:35] <indref> featuretable.txt  lib            res-sdl           skins
[01:35] <LjL> !paste
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:36] <indref> Jeese, specify already..
[01:36] <cafuego> indref: sh ./secondlife
[01:36] <beasty> is there a support chan for edgy ?
[01:36] <sonics> which file is runned upon booting up linux? where can I run scripts?
[01:36] <jrib> beasty: #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <wheels3572> Can i get help with mail archivers
[01:37] <indref> cafuego, Ok, that did a lot of stuff, now what. :D
[01:37] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, didn't work the first time.. had to reboot.. did this command that didn't work before and reseted the x woth ctrl-alt-backspace.. and viola..
[01:37] <link_36p> Does anyone know why my fat32 formatted ipod wont show up as a mountable device?
[01:38] <quux> Silly thing: my ubuntu is no longer recognizing the shift key or the capslock key! Nota hardware error because both work in a vmware guest session on the same machine ..
[01:38] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, now the windows don't studder and the text flowing better in chat
[01:38] <kitche> sonics: it runs many files
[01:38] <sonics> well kitche
[01:38] <sonics> one sec
[01:38] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, Many thanks.. how did u now about that with lrm-video file?
[01:39] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, is that edgy beta errors?
[01:39] <indref> cafuego, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27393/
[01:39] <sonics> kitche: http://paste-bin.com/1041 can u check that one out and c wether its gonna work
[01:40] <raeb> can anyone help with my nvidia drivers?
[01:40] <indref> raeb, Maybe I can.
[01:40] <Mad3Max3> raeb, what about them?
[01:40] <Mad3Max3> reab, just fixed mine! :)
[01:40] <raeb> they keep screwin up, here's a quick post on the forums about where I'm at
[01:40] <raeb> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280475
[01:40] <whyso> in kubuntu i cant load my display setting, help ?
[01:41] <quux> any thoughts on the shift/capslock issue?
[01:41] <NoUse> quit
[01:42] <grexk> linux ldap auth broken in edgy?
[01:42] <indref> raeb, Sorry, I don't know why that's happening. I'm still a noob too.
[01:42] <indref> raeb, All I know is I got mine to work.
[01:42] <pianoboy3333> For the game line rider, where are it's save files stored, and how can I send them/access/read them? http://joplan.com/digg/linerider_hacked.html
[01:42] <UKMatt> are there any Ubuntu programs that I can use to transcode from .m4a (apple's unprotected) to .mp3?
[01:42] <raeb> lol
[01:42] <kitche> sonics doesn't look right to me
[01:42] <pianoboy3333> UKMatt: soundconverter
[01:43] <sonics> kitche: whats wrong?
[01:43] <pianoboy3333> UKMatt: get the newer version though, google for it
[01:43] <sonics> I grabbed that one off the net
[01:43] <raeb> thanks anyway indref
[01:43] <UKMatt> pianoboy3333, would I have to install it then or is it a .deb
[01:43] <sonics> kitche: http://ariel.vardi.free.fr/ariel//vaiosz.html , you can see it there, under video section
[01:43] <ks1> UKMatt: yes, mplayer
[01:43] <UKMatt> ksl, mplayer can transcode?
[01:43] <ks1> search google for it. there are a couple scripts
[01:43] <ks1> UKMatt: yes.
[01:44] <UKMatt> ksl, how?
[01:44] <ks1> UKMatt: search google, there are a couple of scripts.
[01:44] <indref> Has anyone got SecondLife to run, I need install assistance.
[01:44] <UKMatt> alright what about this, what can I use to search my computer for .m4a's?
[01:44] <indref> UKMatt, The search function?
[01:44] <UKMatt> ksl, how do they work, just put a .mp3 next to the .m4a?
[01:44] <Mad3Max3> is there any package for changing the settings of the nvidia gfx GPU?
[01:45] <UKMatt> indref, it can search file types?
[01:45] <kitche> sonics what was the link again?
[01:45] <AdamMK> how to fix this? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:45] <indref> UKMatt, As far as I know.
[01:45] <ks1> UKMatt: Places>Search for files...
[01:45] <sonics> kitche: http://ariel.vardi.free.fr/ariel//vaiosz.html
[01:46] <UKMatt> ksl, indref, I don't see a way to restrict to .m4a's
[01:46] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, u there?
[01:46] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Based on the error I got when manually loading the driver, I knew where to look for problems.
[01:46] <LjL> Mad3Max3: nvidia-xsettings, though i seem to recall there was a GTK app as well that's escaping me right now
[01:46] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Sorry, wa soff doing espresso.
[01:46] <kitche> sonics: yeah it's right
[01:46] <ks1> UKMatt: put in name contains "*.m4a"
[01:46] <ks1> without the quotes
[01:47] <Mad3Max3> espresso is good.. make me one too! :)
[01:47] <kitche> sonics: forgot 1=true in bash
[01:47] <ks1> UKMatt: or select more options..
[01:47] <cafuego> indref: Yah, that's the problem with alpha software :-(
[01:47] <indref> UKMatt, Weird, you are right.
[01:47] <Mad3Max3> LjL, is nvidia-xsettings installed by default with the drivers?
[01:47] <indref> cafuego, What, it doesn't work? That's a heck of a problem.
[01:47] <AdamMK> i'm compiling Amarok from source so that i can include libmtp with it (./configure --with-libmtp) and have this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:47] <UKMatt> ksl, I don't have a more options, and searching .m4a isn't working, returning nothing
[01:48] <cafuego> indref: yah, well, closed-source eh
[01:48] <indref> cafuego, Did you read the pastebin I gave you?
[01:48] <sonics> kitche: ok , so I created this /etc/init.d/xorg_conf file... but what do I have to do now??
[01:48] <jrib> AdamMK: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[01:48] <ks1> UKMatt: well the default is to look in your /home... you can change that
[01:48] <LjL> Mad3Max3: think so, not sure. anyway i'm not really sure it's the thing you're looking for... let me see if i can find the package i actually had in mind
[01:48] <cafuego> indref: yup
[01:48] <ks1> UKMatt: works just fine for me.
[01:48] <indref> cafuego, What did you think.
[01:48] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok.. thanks :)
[01:48] <UKMatt> ksl, are we talking about the same search feature?
[01:49] <ks1> UKMatt: Look for in... select "Filesystem" and for the Name contains *.m4a
[01:49] <AdamMK> jrib: but won't that get the precompiled version? i need to compile amarok from the source
[01:49] <ks1> UKMatt: Places>Search for files...
[01:49] <jrib> AdamMK: that command installs the dependencies you need to compile the amarok in the repos (very likely the same ones you need)
[01:49] <UKMatt> ksl, I have a Places>Search
[01:49] <kitche> sonics: you can chmod +x it to make it executable at start
[01:49] <indref> ksl, I don't see that either.
[01:49] <jrib> AdamMK: by the way, you could just download the amarok source package, edit debian/rules, and then rebuild the package
[01:50] <AdamMK> jrib: aah i see -dep=dependencies
[01:50] <sonics> kitche: alright, so I dont need to add this #!/bin/sh line to it?
[01:50] <sonics> its gonna work?
[01:50] <kitche> sonics: yea you need that also at the top of it
[01:50] <indref> ksl, I see Name Matches Regular Expression and Name Does Not Contain, but no Name Contains
[01:50] <ks1> UKMatt: did you get it? it wont find any m4a files if you dont have any on your ubuntu install
[01:51] <cafuego> indref: You could try switching resolutions, see if there's one that works
[01:51] <Mad3Max3> I was wondering about soundcard and such. Im gonna have my sound output by a s-pdif.. so I get digital and can send it to my receiver. is there any setting or packages I have to install for that.. I think i've read something about doing something with ALSA..
[01:51] <indref> cafuego, I can only get one resolution to work on my machine.
[01:51] <jrib> AdamMK: right
[01:51] <UKMatt> ksl, oh i have plenty, they're mixed in but I don't have the same search program as you for some reason
[01:51] <ks1> indref: sorry i'm on edgy, probably makes a difference :P
[01:51] <sonics> kitche: ok, where do I set a link to that file then?
[01:51] <indref> ksl, Maybe.
[01:51] <ks1> UKMatt: i'm on edgy, might make a difference.
[01:51] <AdamMK> jrib: does that command get ALL depencies recomended and required? is there a way to get just the required?
[01:51] <LjL> Mad3Max3: oh... just type "nvidia-settings".
[01:51] <UKMatt> ksl, aw yeah, i think they changed to Beagle search in edgy
[01:52] <AdamMK> dependancies*
[01:52] <UKMatt> ksl, I'll wait a week
[01:52] <ks1> UKMatt: Yeah. I've been running edgy since knot 1
[01:52] <cafuego> and beagle won't find anything without an index
[01:52] <Mad3Max3> LjL.. nice.. :)
[01:52] <UKMatt> indref, does soundconverter need a plugin for .mp3?
[01:52] <indref> UKMatt, I don't know.
[01:52] <UKMatt> ksl, I put on knot 2 and it was buggy, and I'm not THAT great with ub so I missed my automatix, and changed back
[01:52] <jrib> AdamMK: it installs the deps that are required to build the package
[01:52] <ks1> either way with Name Matches Regular Expression, you can put *.m4a and it should work.
[01:53] <kitche> sonics: well there should be a local script in /etc/init.d but did you add it to the run level folder or just inside init.d
[01:53] <sonics> its located in /etc/init.d/
[01:54] <ks1> UKMatt: you can try *.m4a in "Name matches Regular Expression" i dont know if that will work or not
[01:54] <sonics> kitche: is that ok, or do I need to link it in some file?!
[01:55] <Mad3Max3> LjL, what does your nvidia-settings says about your graphics processor? .. mine says C51 .. strange..
[01:55] <alex_> hello, i installed ubuntu.. and for some reason the package manager wont install open office-common
[01:55] <alex_> http://pastebin.ca/210750
[01:55] <alex_> it's a auto update
[01:55] <UKMatt> ksl, the search programs are completely different, it seems like the only option for mine is search part of the name of the file, which won't work
[01:56] <LjL> Mad3Max3: says GeForce FX 5200, which is what i have
[01:56] <Shadowthrone> How can I view my environment variables?#
[01:56] <kitche> sonics: you should have folders in /etc/init.d/ or don't you can't remember right now
[01:56] <LjL> Shadowthrone: "env"
[01:57] <Mad3Max3> LjL, I got a 6150.. strange that i doesn't say that.. maybe some setting I have to change
[01:57] <sonics> kitche: there are only files there
[01:57] <Shadowthrone> LjL: Awesome.
[01:57] <kitche> Shadowthrone: .bashrc for your user
[01:57] <ks1> UKMatt: sudo find / -name *.m4a
[01:57] <LjL> Mad3Max3: i don't know. i wouldn't worry too much, as long as everything works, though
[01:57] <kitche> sonics: ok that's fine then you shouldn't have to link it
[01:57] <sonics> ok im gonna go and check if it works then :)
[01:57] <ks1> UKMatt: type that in terminal
[01:57] <barktpolar> Does the instLinux program install Ubuntu with GRUB?
[01:57] <sonics> brb, hopefully ! Thnx kitche
[01:58] <ks1> UKMatt: it will take a minute or so for the command to finish but it will search your system for any filenames that have .m4a
[01:58] <alex_> hello, i installed ubuntu.. and for some reason the package manager wont install open office-common
[01:58] <alex_> http://pastebin.ca/210750
[01:58] <Shadowthrone> How can I then change them?
[01:58] <ww2> I'm having major instability issues with XGL/Beryl... first with the current version, when with the SVN ones. All the suddenly it will just freeze (become unresponsive), and the only way to get out is ctrl + alt + backspace or pressing the reset button. I have a Radeon 9600 XT. Anyone had or is having similar problems?
[01:59] <LjL> ks1, UKMatt: perhaps make that "-iname *.m4a", if you might have any files with the extension in uppercase
[01:59] <Shadowthrone> And add more?
[01:59] <LjL> !xgl > ww2
[01:59] <LjL> Shadowthrone: "export VARIABLENAME=value"
[01:59] <ww2> LjL, what do you want me to do with those urls? I've already installed and configured everything.
[01:59] <ks1> LjL: yes that will work :)
[02:00] <Shadowthrone> LjL: Awesome.
[02:00] <ww2> LjL, thanks anyway
[02:00] <LjL> ww2, just trying to tell you that the right channel for XGL etc. support is #ubuntu-xgl
[02:00] <barktpolar> Does it?
[02:00] <ww2> LjL, I asked there too.
[02:00] <quux> Silly thing: my ubuntu (on thinkpad t42) is no longer recognizing the shift key or the capslock key! Not a hardware error because both work in a vmware guest session on the same machine ..
[02:00] <Mad3Max3> LjL, is there any package for tweaking the GPU.. like radligth on XP?
[02:00] <timothy> i need help with my broadcom wifi
[02:00] <ks1> UKMatt: did that work for you? find anything?
[02:00] <ww2> LjL, it's just that there is approximately 8 times more people here...
[02:01] <LjL> Mad3Max3: "tweaking" = what?   anyway, "apt-cache search nvclock" and be very careful.
[02:01] <LjL> ww2, yes, but people using XGL will normally hang in #ubuntu-xgl as well
[02:01] <ww2> LjL, ok =] 
[02:02] <LjL> ww2: people who aim for a sanely stable system simply don't use XGL ;)
[02:02] <spiderworm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279705 <--- laptop headphones detection issues.... any ideas on fixing something like this?
[02:02] <ww2> LjL, yeah, I tought about AIGLX, which is supposed to be more stable, but then the open source driver which it requires doesn't have proper 3d acceleration
[02:03] <LjL> ww2, actually, Beryl and friends themselves are extremely experimental stuff
[02:03] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok.. nvclock..
[02:03] <Chippy> hey, I'm trying to get XGL+Compiz to work on my box (amd64, nvidia geforce 6800gt), but can't seem to get it to work... I just tried this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 but when I try restarting gdm nothing starts, and I get a normal gnome desktop... xgl isn't running, compiz is but is defunct... ideas?
[02:03] <ww2> I know, but people seem to have GLX pretty stable... don't see lots of complaints on that
[02:03] <ww2> I mean XGL
[02:03] <LjL> !xgl > chippy
[02:03] <Chippy> LjL: ?
[02:04] <LjL> Chippy: you have a private message
[02:04] <Mad3Max3> the newest Firefox in edgy.. don't like it.. and none of the themes and addons work.. :(
[02:04] <spiderworm> xgl & compiz work well for me... it freezes sometimes, but not enough to make me stop using it
[02:04] <ks1> Mad3Max3: bon echo is ok.. but sucks for sure :P
[02:04] <LjL> well, having your X server "freeze sometimes" is considered as something very serious by a few people.
[02:05] <spiderworm> *nod*
[02:05] <Chippy> LjL: tried the howto's linked there, and ubuntu-xgl is dead
[02:05] <barktpolar> Quux, I did'nt know you go here?
[02:06] <Mad3Max3> ks1, I like my iFox theme.. and the tabs addons.. well.. they will come I guess..
[02:06] <Cymage> quux is everywhere
[02:06] <Shadowthrone> Okay, I installed Sun's jdk and would like to create an environment variable JDK_HOME, but don't know where to point it to.
[02:06] <lws> hum
[02:06] <lws> I have universe enabled on edgy but can't find the package libdvdplay0
[02:06] <lws> according to packages.ubuntu.com it exists
[02:06] <Mad3Max3> only 2 workspaces in edgy., how do I set it too 4 as it should be?
[02:06] <quux> barktpolar: I idle here
[02:07] <ks1> Mad3Max3: right click..
[02:07] <quux> anyway, I solved my keyboard prob; thanks to anyone who thought about it
[02:07] <ks1> Mad3Max3: right click.. preferences...
[02:07] <ks1> barktpolar: that would definitely complete a sentence?
[02:07] <timothy> i need help with my broadcom wifi
[02:08] <LjL> lws: it's there. have you run "sudo apt-get update" after adding universe? anyway, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for Edgy question
[02:08] <Cymage> Timsen, ndiswrapper
[02:08] <barktpolar> that would definitely work I meant to end it with
[02:08] <spiderworm> lol, #ubuntu+1 ... i like that
[02:08] <Cymage> timothy, ^^
[02:08] <lws> LjL: yeah I did
[02:09] <lws> LjL: does Ign mean ignore?
[02:09] <LjL> lws, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[02:09] <DarthVineman> Anyone know how I can get the old xchat back? I updated ubuntu and I dont like XChat-GNOME
[02:09] <Cymage> timothy, i am running the bcm4318 and ndiswrapper was a breaze
[02:09] <Mad3Max3> is there any config for nvidia soundcard.. graphical i mean..?
[02:09] <LjL> lws: where?
[02:09] <lws> LjL: when aptitude update is run
[02:09] <timothy> Cymage: i have a bcm4309
[02:09] <gnomefreak> lws: yes
[02:09] <LjL> lws: oh, i'm not sure.
[02:10] <LjL> lws: anyway, just put your sources.list into the pastebin, i feel you might not have enabled universe correctly
[02:10] <timothy> Cymage: i have tried ndiswrapper aleady
[02:10] <DarthVineman> Anyone know how I can get the old xchat back? I updated ubuntu and I dont like XChat-GNOME
[02:10] <Cymage> I would still use ndiswrapper, but could try the broadcom firmware thing. i dont remember what it was called
[02:10] <lws> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27397/
[02:10] <gnomefreak> lws: it may go back and hit them towards the end or there is a problem with either your sources.list or the repo
[02:10] <clearzen> How much of a  difference will your router make for connection speeds using ssh?
[02:10] <ks1> Mad3Max3: as far as configuring how/
[02:10] <LjL> DarthVineman: there is the plain "xchat" package, but it's in universe.
[02:10] <barktpolar> Who uses DD in here anyway?
[02:10] <lws> gnomefreak: Software Sources setup my sources.list so hrm
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lws: try getting rid of non-free free
[02:11] <LjL> lws, that sources.list looks terrible... you should at least have security repositories enabled!
[02:11] <len> Hi, I couldnt install Ubuntu 6.10 in my friend's compute so I instaled 5.10 How can I upgrade it to 6.10???
[02:11] <len> please
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lws: thats not really a sources.list :(
[02:11] <lws> gnomefreak: K, still does "Ign blah"
[02:11] <LjL> lws, and i don't think we have "free" and "non-free" components
[02:11] <gnomefreak> LjL: lnope
[02:11] <lws> LjL: Is there a security repository for edgy?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lws: did you run sudo apt-get update
[02:11] <LjL> !repos > lws
[02:11] <Mad3Max3> ks1, like how it should operate.. soundsettings.. and outs and ins.. all that stuff..
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lws: join #ubuntu+1 please
[02:12] <ks1> Mad3Max3: there is the volume control up in the right hand corner, you can select most if not all through there.
[02:12] <timothy> cymage: i think i know what you are talking about but i tried it and it does not want to work
[02:12] <ks1> Mad3Max3: in terminal you can also type "alsamixer" and adjust through there. be care ful what you are adjusting.
[02:13] <lws> I hate pasting on linux, i really do
[02:13] <lws> there's like three different clipboards
[02:13] <LjL> lws: there is two
[02:13] <gnomefreak> lws: join #ubuntu+1 now for edgy
[02:13] <Cymage> timothy, then the only other option is to blacklist the bcm43xx native driver and use ndiswrapper
[02:13] <Mad3Max3> ks1, yeah I saw that one. it left me quite unsatisfied thou.. I like it to be more! :)
[02:13] <LjL> lws: and if you just avoid using middle click pasting, then it becomes just like on windows ;)
[02:13] <ks1> more graphical? :P
[02:13] <Cymage> ndiswrapper wont work till u blacklist the native
[02:13] <timothy> ok
[02:14] <Mad3Max3> ks1, alsamixer.. ok. is that a graphical interface,,?
[02:14] <Cymage> timothy, u want a link to step by step?
[02:14] <lws> LjL: but it's not.  I select the url in my gterm, right click copy it, right-click-paste into firefox and get something different
[02:14] <timothy> Cymage: will this work? echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:14] <ks1> Mad3Max3: it is ncurses/dialog based. its not pretty but it will get the job done :P
[02:14] <Mad3Max3> ks1, ok
[02:14] <ks1> rhythmbox, why must you be mean :( crashes after so long of streaming internet radio
[02:15] <LjL> lws: that shouldn't happen. it might happen if you set your system to only have *one* clipboard that is shared with the select-middleclick-clipboard... i don't think that should happen by default, though. it's just an option i have in KDE
[02:15] <Cymage> timothy, not sure. not the way i did it.
[02:15] <Shadowthrone> I installed Sun's jdk but would like to create an environment variable that points to it... only I don't know where it's installed. How can I found out? Or rather, where is it?
[02:15] <len> Hi, I couldnt install Ubuntu 6.10 in my friend's compute so I instaled 5.10 How can I upgrade it to 6.10??? Some1 help me plz
[02:16] <LjL> len: 6.10 (Edgy) isn't released yet (though it will be in a couple of days). the current version is 6.06 (Dapper).
[02:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell len about upgrade
[02:16] <lws> LjL: I'm in gnome
[02:16] <timothy> Cymage: could you give me a link to the wizard?
[02:16] <len> LjL: so 6.06
[02:16] <len> sorry
[02:16] <barktpolar> !ubotu Upgrading
[02:16] <timothy> i will be back in a hour or so.
[02:16] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:16] <timothy> thanks
[02:16] <LjL> lws: well i don't have gnome installed, but it would strike me as strange if the two clipboards were synced by default still...
[02:17] <Cymage> timothy, wizard?
[02:18] <bruffy> hi peeps
[02:18] <ks1> Mad3Max3: did you check out alsamixer?
[02:18] <bruffy> does somebody knows how to install skype?
[02:19] <Cymage> timothy, this link has step by step for ndiswrapper along with other stuff. http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html
[02:19] <GhostFreeman> I'm trying to write a bash script that would send a file via scp over to another server. How would I send a password to the password prompt during execution?
[02:19] <Mad3Max3> ks1, yes..
[02:19] <LjL> !skype > bruffy
[02:19] <Shadowthrone> How can I remove environment variables?
[02:19] <Mad3Max3> ks1, only volume settings there.. I will search in apt-file to see if I can find any packages
[02:19] <kitche> !skype > bruffy
[02:20] <ks1> Mad3Max3: You can set other stuff than volume.
[02:20] <bruffy> in terminal?
[02:20] <ks1> Mad3Max3: atleast with my SB, there are about 30 settings
[02:20] <El> !skype
[02:20] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:20] <bruffy> !skype
[02:21] <ChickenTalons> skype actually works on LInux too
[02:21] <bruffy> thx
[02:21] <amicrawle> what is the command to see whats in my network ring ?
[02:21] <mattjunx> I've got an issue with edgy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27400/
[02:21] <Mad3Max3> ks1, what kind of settings do u have?
[02:21] <Rug> mattjunx: goto #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <mattjunx> okay
[02:21] <Mad3Max3> ks1, can u set freqvens and stuff..
[02:22] <mattjunx> /leave
[02:22] <mattjunx> er
[02:22] <mattjunx> bye
[02:22] <Hail_Spacecake> how do I run a graphical KDE program as root?
[02:22] <Moosebuntu> how do I query the size of /dev/hda ?
[02:22] <Hail_Spacecake> assuming I odn't know the command line command that normally opens it?
[02:22] <ryanakca> from command line (bash), how would I replace all ' ' (spaces) in a file name by '_' (underscore)?
[02:22] <ks1> Mad3Max3: not freqvens, i have a lot of the linein/lineout, video, IEC958, C,L,0,T and other stuff
[02:23] <El> !ntfs
[02:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:23] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake, find out the command line first. if the program's in the K menu, you can right click on the K menu, do "Menu editor", and find out the command's name.
[02:23] <LjL> !kdesu > Hail_Spacecake
[02:23] <Chippy> hey, the VNC viewer that's installed by default in Ubuntu, is there any way to remove the confirmation when users connect (so I can connect when no one is around)
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> heh, "kdesu"
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> the KDE japanese copula :)
[02:24] <Mad3Max3> ks1, ok
[02:24] <kitche> Chippy: don't think you can in the one installed by default
[02:24] <Shadowthrone> Does anyone here use IntelliJ IDEA?
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> hmm, I tried that
[02:24] <jrib> Chippy: system > preferences > remote desktop lets you choose that
[02:24] <Hail_Spacecake> and it still says that you have insufficient permissions because you didn't run it with sudo
[02:25] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: which program is that?
[02:25] <Hail_Spacecake> wlassistant
[02:25] <Hail_Spacecake> @ LjL
[02:26] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake, what does it say exactly? wlassistant AFAIK doesn't even normally *need* to be run as root, so it'd strike me as strange if it complained that you didn't run it with sudo
[02:26] <andy> Hi all, I am trying to install 'smbfs' and I get this error after apt-get: smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed, can someone help me?
[02:26] <JaytheGreat> hey all
[02:27] <jewbilee> anyone have any cool tips or trick for a ubuntu noob?
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> LjL: when I run it normally, it says "You might have insufficient permissions for Wireless assistant to function properly. Did you run it using sudo?"
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> and hten it gives an okay box to go to the main program
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> but it doesn't find any networks
[02:27] <Hail_Spacecake> and I'm pretty sure that ubuntu is actually detecting my network card, because it shows up in /sbin/iwconfig
[02:27] <jrib> jewbilee: yes, press alt-f2 and type "free the fish" without quotes
[02:28] <LjL> Hail_Spacecake: it doesn't ask me that, but then that might be because i don't *have* a wireless card... try plain "sudo wlassistant" perhaps. though "kdesu wlassistant" should be fine if not better :-\
[02:28] <Hail_Spacecake> apparantly, sudo'ing KDE apps is bad
[02:28] <Hail_Spacecake> I don't know why
[02:28] <Hail_Spacecake> or what will happen if I try it
[02:28] <jewbilee> jrib
[02:28] <jewbilee> what does that do?
[02:28] <kitche> Hail_Spaceckae: your suppose to use gtksudo
[02:29] <kitche> opsp gksudo not gtksudo
[02:29] <jrib> jewbilee: it puts a fish on your desktop named wanda!
[02:29] <LjL> kitche: err, not under KDE...
[02:29] <G0oW> what's a good irc client for ubuntu?
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> gksudo?
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> alright
[02:29] <jrib> G0oW: xchat, irssi
[02:29] <andy> Xchat
[02:29] <G0oW> ty
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> command not found
[02:29] <Rug> G0oW irssi
[02:29] <G0oW> <gaim right now =X
[02:29] <LjL> !good
[02:29] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:29] <kitche> LjL: well it should run it's own version of it then which it seems to me like it's not doing it
[02:29] <Hail_Spacecake> wait, isn't gksudo the GNOME command?
[02:30] <Hail_Spacecake> I have KDE
[02:30] <jewbilee> how do i make it go away now..
[02:30] <jewbilee> lol
[02:30] <jrib> jewbilee: lol idk
[02:30] <BlueEagle> g0ow: I recomend irssi because despite being less intuitive it's easier to set up on a remote server and connect to from any workstation.
[02:30] <andy>  Hi all, I am trying to install 'smbfs' and I get this error after apt-get: smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed, can someone help me?
[02:30] <jrib> jewbilee: just kidding, 'killall gnome-panel' in a terminal is the only way I know of or logout and back in
[02:30] <jewbilee> wow...
[02:30] <G0oW> ty, blueEagle
[02:30] <jewbilee> ok
[02:30] <jewbilee> hahha
[02:30] <G0oW> ill try it out ;] 
[02:31] <LjL> andy: try typing "sudo apt-get update" and then trying again
[02:31] <andy> ok
[02:31] <G0oW> austin, eh?
[02:31] <G0oW> that's close to me
[02:31] <G0oW> =] 
[02:31] <eimajenthat> anyone tried the new edgy eft RC?
[02:31] <LjL> !edgy
[02:31] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:31] <andy> LjL: same problem after update
[02:31] <joeCoT> So did anyone hear that there's _already_ an exploit for ie7?
[02:32] <_azrael> !schedule > me
[02:32] <Rug> joeCoT: yeah
[02:32] <strabes> yeah i read that on digg
[02:32] <LjL> andy: type "apt-cache policy smbfs" and tell me what version it gives you
[02:32] <jewbilee> damn ie...
[02:32] <Shadowthrone> How might I remove an environment variable entirely?
[02:32] <strabes> it's proprietary - it can never be as good as FOSS
[02:32] <Moosebuntu> how do I query the size of a hard drive on my Ubuntu system?
[02:32] <bmk789_> df -h
[02:32] <jewbilee> strabes
[02:32] <jewbilee> FOSS
[02:32] <Moosebuntu> The properties doesn't give this info
[02:32] <jewbilee> what is that?
[02:32] <jrib> Shadowthrone: set it equal to nothing export foo=
[02:32] <jewbilee> free open source software?
[02:32] <Chippy> another question: right now I have no "super key" and my keyboard "Layout Options" are blank... can anyone help?
[02:32] <kitche> Shadowthrone: did you put it in your .bashrc or just in the commandline
[02:32] <strabes> jewbilee: FOSS = free open source software
[02:32] <jewbilee> thought so
[02:32] <strabes> indeed
[02:32] <andy> LjL: 3.0.22-1ubuntu3 0
[02:32] <Shadowthrone> kitche: command line
[02:32] <strabes> i like it :)
[02:33] <jewbilee> oss is the way to go
[02:33] <Max_-> When I try to edit files in /var/www, they only open read only.. how do I get the rights to edit them.. ?
[02:33] <jewbilee> im just not good enough to edit it
[02:33] <jewbilee> all i know is java
[02:33] <strabes> i dont know anything about programming
[02:33] <jrib> Max_-: use sudo
[02:33] <cafuego> OSS is crap, use ALSA.
[02:33] <Rug> Max_-: sudo nano /file/you/want
[02:33] <LjL> andy: that sounds wrong, it should be 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1. paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please
[02:33] <jrib> ubotu: tell Max_- about sudo
[02:33] <andy> ok
[02:34] <RichardCranium> anyone, does ubuntu-desktop uninstall if you remove the gnome-screensaver package?
[02:34] <Max_-> jrib, Rug, I mean in GNOME...
[02:34] <cafuego> RichardCranium: probably
[02:34] <jrib> Max_-: gksudo gedit /var/www/foo
[02:34] <Mad3Max3> have a question.. is there something like activiteshandler like on XP on ubuntu.. u know when u press.. ctrl-alt-delete.. so I can see processes that are running and memroy usage
[02:34] <Rug> Max_-: it's easiest from a command line
[02:34] <LjL> Mad3Max3: ctrl+esc works on KDE, i'm not sure it works under Gnome as well
[02:34] <harisund> Hello! I often change my shells in my temrinal.. how do I find out easily if I am inside bash or tcsh?
[02:35] <strabes> mad3max3: you can type 'top' in console and it shows you all processes running
[02:35] <andy> LjL: alright I pated
[02:35] <LjL> harisund: echo $SHELL
[02:35] <LjL> andy: URL please
[02:35] <Max_-> Rug, I know but I ged mad when I type  like characters and they don't display good cuz of Nano or any other kind of reason...
[02:35] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: gnome-system-monitor
[02:35] <andy> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27404/
[02:35] <Mad3Max3> LjL, well ctrl-esc do nothing
[02:35] <Rug> Max_-: then swap nano for the editor of your choice.
[02:35] <Max_-> jrib trying this... but that'll get me crazy too to have to type the name of the file each time... if I wanna modify 50 files I should be able to click on them and modify them simply
[02:36] <Mad3Max3> cafuego.. is there a short command to start that?
[02:36] <Moosebuntu> Filesystem Properties: "Size: unknown"
[02:36] <strabes> mad3max3: gnome-system-monitor
[02:36] <Moosebuntu> :(
[02:36] <jrib> Max_-: then change the permissions on /var/www
[02:36] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: I tend to add the apple to the panel and just click on that
[02:36] <Max_-> jrib that was the point of the initial question
[02:36] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Right click panel, add to panel -> System Monitor
[02:37] <G0oW> brb
[02:37] <G0oW> bye <3
[02:37] <LjL> andy, that is wrong. you have enabled the Universe and Multiverse components for the "dapper" repository, but you've neglected to do the same for "dapper-updates" and "dapper-security". do that.
[02:37] <jrib> Max_-: you have to be specific :)  chgrp would be the best way to do it, then just add yourself to the group
[02:37] <Mad3Max3> cafuego, can I terminate processes there aswell. and how do I terminate a process in terminal.. do I use kill?
[02:37] <andy> LjL: alright, I shall report back
[02:37] <LjL> andy: then run sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <Max_-> jrib yeah, sorry :P
[02:37] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Of course, System -> Control Panel -> Keyboard SHortcuts
[02:37] <strabes> mad3max3: use sudo killall processname
[02:38] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Yup, right click 'em.
[02:38] <prestosd> u busy or can someone help me fix a problem?
[02:38] <cafuego> Mad3Max3: Or simply right click a window and choose 'close'.
[02:38] <strabes> prestosd: just ask :)
[02:38] <jrib> Max_-: chgrp -R www-data /var/www    would recursively make all the stuff in www-data belong to the www-data group (which probably exists)
[02:38] <prestosd> k
[02:38] <scenestar> lo room
[02:38] <Max_-> jrib thanks I was about to ask :)
[02:39] <scenestar> ive got an annoing problem with xchat
[02:39] <prestosd> I'm having trouble installing mzscheme
[02:39] <andy> LjL: alright, it worked, thankyou for the help.
[02:39] <scenestar> all links are opened in konqueror instead of firefox
[02:39] <jrib> Max_-: then just add your user to the group: adduser your_username www-data   (you need sudo for all this stuff by the way)
[02:39] <scenestar> ive checked my gconf and and set all associaions in kcontrol to firefox
[02:39] <strabes> scenestar: system, preferences, preferred applications
[02:39] <scenestar> can someone explain what the hell is going on
[02:39] <Max_-> jrib okay great! thanks a lot :D
[02:39] <scenestar> strabes
[02:39] <Gnomer__> Haha, scenestar?
[02:39] <jrib> Max_-: np
[02:40] <scenestar> set
[02:40] <strabes> scenestar: what?
[02:40] <Gnomer__> scenestar, are you from HTS?
[02:40] <scenestar> its set to firefox
[02:40] <scenestar> Gnomer__ yeah
[02:40] <scenestar> im admin there
[02:40] <Gnomer__> scenestar, HAHA
[02:40] <Gnomer__> Yeah, I know.
[02:40] <Gnomer__> <-- Patch
[02:40] <scenestar> hih there patch
[02:40] <Gnomer__> 'Lo.
[02:40] <jrib> scenestar: try 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'
[02:40] <scenestar> i set up the FBSD rootthisbox jail
[02:40] <Gnomer__> scenestar, really? Awesome.
[02:40] <prestosd> can someone help me fix a problem with mzscheme
[02:41] <Gnomer__> 'bout time some one whipped HTS back into shape :P
[02:41] <scenestar> jrib well that was pretty fucking obvious
[02:41] <Gnomer__> Still stayin' out of it though.
[02:41] <Chippy> right now I have no "super key" and my keyboard "Layout Options" are blank... can anyone help?
[02:41] <prestosd> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH A PROBLEM!
[02:41] <scenestar> good point Gnomer__ , still though, there will be root contests soon enough
[02:41] <jrib> prestosd: just ask your question, if someone can help, they will try
[02:41] <Gnomer__> Anyway, cool seein' ya scenestar
[02:42] <Mad3Max3> where do I check which programs and services that gets started when I boot into ubuntu. looks like I have a couple that I don't need.. like gnome-power-manager
[02:42] <Gnomer__> scenestar, Need me at any time for help, find me here ;)
[02:42] <scenestar> prestosd , try using bolds with capslock, it attracts more attention
[02:42] <scenestar> allright
[02:42] <whyso> is there a way to watch windows media player stuff in firefox?
[02:42] <scenestar> you still on xelix?
[02:42] <LjL> !caps > prestosd
[02:42] <Gnomer__> scenestar, nah.
[02:42] <Comrade_S> whyso: mplayer
[02:42] <Gnomer__> I moved myself away from HTS and anything related.
[02:42] <prestosd> Whenever I try to install any thing it gives me an error
[02:42] <jrib> whyso: sure, I like mplayer-plugin.  But totem-xine-plugin should work too
[02:42] <Mad3Max3> feels like a waste of memey having stuff runnung I don't need and that I can't use..
[02:42] <prestosd> about mzscheme
[02:42] <whyso> k thanx
[02:42] <prestosd> !caps
[02:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:42] <strabes> mad3max3: here is a tutorial  for that: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot be careful with it though
[02:42] <prestosd> lol
[02:43] <scenestar> Gnomer__ , you still a phreaker?
[02:43] <scenestar> what drove you away?
[02:43] <Mad3Max3> Strabes.. ooo.. thanks.. that was what I was loking for.
[02:43] <strabes> mad3max3: np
[02:43] <LjL> talking about illegal activities is not welcome here i'm afraid
[02:43] <lumgwada> hi I'm setting up ssh keys (ala http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/ ) and have everything working except ssh-agent integrated into the xsession. Can anyone suggest what I need to modify in the config file so it sits pretty with ubuntu's XSession startup.
[02:43] <Max_-> jrib .. that's weird... it still opens readonly :S
[02:43] <Gnomer__> scenestar, Answer to question 1) yes. and to question 2) HTS keeps changing owners, there WERE powerstuggles.
[02:43] <prestosd> illegal?
[02:43] <scenestar> aye
[02:43] <Gnomer__> Plus I don't like half the people that run that show.
[02:43] <scenestar> whats illigal?>
[02:43] <jrib> Max_-: you need to logout with your user and back in for the group membership tot ake effect
[02:44] <scenestar> LjL , im a hacker
[02:44] <scenestar> arrest me
[02:44] <Gnomer__> LjL, no one is talkin' about illegal activites, we're talkin' about professions.
[02:44] <prestosd> every linux user is a "hacker"
[02:44] <Max_-> ohhh .. ok
[02:44] <Gnomer__> Now, if I went on how to do something, it would be illegal.
[02:44] <LjL> scenestar, calm down. it's my impression that phreaking is illegal, i might be mistaken.
[02:44] <Mad3Max3> If I have spell bad. it's beacuse of my keyboard.. I tipped a cup of coffee into it today! only had one sip and then down into the keys.. so it's a semiworking keyboard now! :D
[02:44] <Comrade_S> depends on where you live
[02:44] <scenestar> hey, i just got a leet 0day to trade for a botnet <<< illigal
[02:44] <Luke> How do I make my monitor shut off after 10 min? I have gnome-screensaver
[02:45] <scenestar> Luke , set screen to blank
[02:45] <scenestar> in the settings pannel
[02:45] <jrib> Luke: system > preferences > power management
[02:45] <Gnomer__> LjL, me and scenestar practice the art of defrauding of security of computers and telephones. For pentesting (At least for me)
[02:45] <Luke> scenestar: it *does* go blank it just leaves the backlight on
[02:45] <Gnomer__> I'll keep illegal stuff to a minimum, promise.
[02:45] <Luke> jrib: i've set that and it doesnt seem to matter
[02:46] <scenestar> why the hell would i blurt illigal things out in a public channel
[02:46] <LjL> Gnomer__, scenestar: alright, i still think you should probably keep that kind of discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic though
[02:46] <Gnomer__> Anyway, Scenestar. AIM/Yahwhore/MSN?
[02:46] <RichardCranium> Gnomer__, why not tell the channel you deal methamphetamines while you're at it? j/k
[02:46] <AsheD> how can I add custom icons?
[02:46] <scenestar> Gnomer__
[02:46] <Gnomer__> RichardCranium, :P
[02:46] <scenestar> stfu
[02:46] <scenestar> i happen to be a tweaker
[02:47] <gstevens> sry to spoil the fun hear, but is there anyone that could help me out with xgl?  I followed the steps on the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219336&highlight=ati+xgl thread, and when I try to boot xgl session, I get the following away message "No Exec line in session file .xgl"  It would be sweet if someone could help, if not alright thanks
[02:47] <Gnomer__> scenestar, don't mind it XD Just notice me a messenger I can harass you on.
[02:47] <RichardCranium> scenestar, why not just drink a pot of coffee
[02:47] <jrib> Gnomer__, scenestar: #ubuntu is just for support because of the high traffic.  The non-support should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <Gnomer__> RichardCranium, "Cocaine", the energy drink.
[02:47] <scenestar> allright im off, Gnomer__ ill talk to you on AIM
[02:48] <enyawix> i have a working install now
[02:48] <RichardCranium> Gnomer__, #ubuntu-offtopic plz , im in there evading bans so we can chat there
[02:48] <G0oW> what is ubuntu breezy, and ubuntu Hoary?
[02:48] <enyawix> is the nvida driver part of the distro?
[02:48] <scenestar> no
[02:48] <scenestar> it isnt
[02:48] <scenestar> its part of the unofficail distros
[02:48] <G0oW> im trying to DL fluxbox
[02:48] <G0oW> and im not sure which one to go for.
[02:49] <G0oW> will someone help me?=P
[02:49] <gstevens> no it is ubuntu dapper  -- not nvida
[02:49] <enyawix> unoffical ?
[02:49] <joeCoT> G0oW: no, sorry. that's not what the ubuntu support channel is for
[02:49] <enyawix> how do i install
[02:49] <LjL> !nvidia > enyawix
[02:49] <jrib> Gnomer__: breezy and hoary are different versions of ubuntu
[02:49] <LjL> enyawix, the faster nvidia driver is not open source software, but it is included in the official repositories.
[02:49] <jrib> G0oW: breezy and hoary are different versions of ubuntu
[02:50] <strabes> g0ow: breezy is the version before dapper, and hoary is the version before breezy
[02:50] <Gnomer__> jrib, :/ I know this.
[02:50] <jrib> Gnomer__: yes, wrong name sorry :)
[02:50] <Gnomer__> :P
[02:50] <cafuego> G0oW: Pick the latest one (Dapper if you can)
[02:50] <agentcy> whens edgy due out?
[02:50] <cafuego> agentcy: next week
[02:50] <enyawix> so not on dserect
[02:50] <LjL> !schedule > agentcy
[02:50] <G0oW> there is not one for Dapper
[02:50] <strabes> agentcy: it comes out next thurs the 26th
[02:50] <agentcy> thx
[02:50] <LogicalDash> How do I install the Linux source packages?
[02:51] <cafuego> G0oW: Not what for dapper? fluxbox? it's *in* dapper.
[02:51] <jrib> G0oW: you mean fluxbox?
[02:51] <G0oW> yeah
[02:51] <cafuego> !info fluxbox
[02:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[02:51] <G0oW> =X
[02:51] <strabes> ubotu: tell strabes about fluxbox
[02:51] <gstevens>  is there anyone that could help me out with xgl?  I followed the steps on the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219336&highlight=ati+xgl thread, and when I try to boot xgl session, I get the following away message "No Exec line in session file .xgl"  It would be sweet if someone could help, if not alright thanks
[02:51] <G0oW> sorry, lol
[02:51] <cafuego> G0oW: If you're on dapper, 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[02:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell gstevens about xgl
[02:51] <joeCoT> G0ox: have you tried Xubuntu?
[02:52] <G0oW> nope, Ubuntu is my first
[02:52] <G0oW> i am trying to use a variety until i find the one i like
[02:52] <LjL> !xgl > gstevens
[02:52] <G0oW> i figured that ubuntu would be the best first step
[02:52] <strabes> !info fluxbox
[02:52] <LjL> sorry jrib
[02:52] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[02:52] <G0oW> ty, catuege
[02:52] <nomasteryoda|w> G0oW, good choice
[02:52] <G0oW> caf*
[02:52] <ww2-> Is it possible to "switch" between two different ATI video drivers (open source and proprietary)?
[02:53] <G0oW> brb
[02:53] <amunbu> !info fluxbox
[02:53] <LjL> ww2-: yes, just change the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X
[02:53] <strabes> ww2-: yes you can change them in your xorg.conf
[02:53] <jrib> LjL: no need to apologize I think ubotu doesn't double send info anyway
[02:53] <RichardCranium> ww2-, not without stopping your gui
[02:53] <joeCoT> G0oW. Xubuntu is Xfce for ubuntu. it's just a differnt desktop environment, which you can install from in ubuntu. http://www.xubuntu.org/
[02:53] <LjL> jrib: if they're sent too close together, no
[02:53] <ww2-> can I have a different xorg.conf for a certain Xsession?
[02:54] <G0oW> ty, joeCoT
[02:54] <G0oW> brb
[02:54] <gstevens> any help?
[02:54] <El> My Windows XP installation is corrupted, and I am trying to recover a few files with this LiveCD. I have a second hard drive that I was going to try copying the files to, but that's getting tricky, with the whole NTFS read/write driver issue. (I haven't been able to successfully install NTFS-3G). So any suggestions on how to save my files?
[02:54] <kismet_> El, use a windows boot disk?
[02:54] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee90221 subsystem, and it wants me to install the "Linux kernel source". I'm not quite sure what it's talking about, but it's supposed to be in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/ . Any help?
[02:54] <LjL> gstevens, XGL etc. help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:55] <LogicalDash> *80221
[02:55] <rixth> "/dev/video0: Device or resource busy" << how can I find out what is using it?
[02:55] <El> kismet: I havnt managed to get into windows, iv tried repai installs and all sorts..
[02:55] <ww2-> This is my situation... I'm trying to run XGL with an ATI card plus decent stability... but fglrx drivers are unstable by nature. So I need OSS drivers XGL (or AIGLX, which I may install) and fglrx for playing games and running other 3d apps. How can I switch between the two drivers in the quickest, less troublesome manner?
[02:55] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[02:55] <hubuntu_______> EL is your external drive formatted as FAT or NTFS?
[02:55] <ww2-> Just changing xorg.conf manually each time won't do, really.
[02:56] <El> hubuntu: NTFS
[02:56] <LjL> rixth: lsof | grep video
[02:56] <LjL> ww2-: doesn't have to be manually, you could write a script. don't know if there's an easier way.
[02:56] <hubuntu_______> I found a really neat  how-to
[02:56] <El> Oh yes?
[02:56] <hubuntu_______> give me a sec i'll give you the url..
[02:56] <ww2-> LjL, I don't have a lot of experience in bash scripting =/
[02:57] <El> Awesome, thanks
[02:57] <pablo> hi, which is the bet graphic card for linux?
[02:57] <Max_-> jrib... that's no fun.. even rebooted the whole computer.. and it still opens read only    owner : root  group : www-data
[02:57] <pablo> best
[02:57] <rixth> LjL, thanks! I thought that only worked with disks
[02:57] <jrib> Max_-: what does 'groups' say
[02:57] <hubuntu_______> El... just for the record. You are runing from a breezy live cd right now, right?
[02:58] <Max_-> jrib, root
[02:58] <El> Ubuntu 6.06 liveCD
[02:58] <jrib> Max_-: I mean the command 'groups'
[02:58] <Max_-> jrib, yah
[02:58] <LjL> ww2-: assuming you have the xorg.conf for one driver as /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and the one for ther other in /etc/X11/xorg.conf-alternate, you may try something like    /etc/init.d/gdm stop;  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf-alternate /etc/X11/xorg.conf-current; mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-alternate; mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf-current /etc/X11/xorg.conf; /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:58] <jrib> Max_-: are you root?
[02:58] <hubuntu_______> sorry i ment edgy 6.06... ok. BRB
[02:58] <El> thanks
[02:58] <Max_-> jrib, gotta create the group I guess...  I did it while sudo -i, yes
[02:58] <pablo> hi, which is the best graphic card for linux?
[02:58] <ww2-> LjL, I'll take note of that. Thanks =)
[02:59] <jrib> Max_-: run it as your regular user
[02:59] <pablo> considering open source drivers
[02:59] <moot> is vncserver not in the default repositories?
[02:59] <ww2-> pablo, nvidia for certain... what model to choose will depend on what kind of performance you wanna have.
[02:59] <Max_-> jrib, max adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[02:59] <LjL> !info vncserver
[02:59] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[02:59] <LjL> moot: ^
[02:59] <Max_-> jrib, www-data is there.
[02:59] <moot> i have vnc-common installed, but vncserver doesn't appear to exist
[03:00] <LjL> moot: then you probably need to enable Universe
[03:00] <pablo> ww2-: does it has good open source drivers?
[03:00] <moot> ah, ok... thanks
[03:00] <LjL> !universe > moot
[03:00] <jrib> Max_-: yes it is.  What does 'ls -l /var/www/file_you_are_editing' say?
[03:00] <ww2-> pablo, yes... ATI's ones are just abysmal
[03:00] <[GuS] > Aurevoir...
[03:00] <Code-E> Is there a way to get quake2 in the repositories
[03:01] <LjL> pablo: even on NVidia cards, however, most people use the proprietary binary-only drivers, if they need good 3D acceleration.
[03:01] <Code-E> This is the only linux distro i know of that doesnt have quake2 in the packages
[03:01] <ww2-> pablo, I'm sorry... you asked for open source. I don't know
[03:01] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to set Kubuntu up to use my Intel 3945ABG wireless card. When I try to make the ieee80221 subsystem, it tells me that I'm missing something in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/. The INSTALL file says that there are supposed to be "linux kernel sources" here. What are these, and how can I get them?
[03:01] <ww2-> pablo, didn't read your question properly.
[03:01] <LjL> !info quake2
[03:01] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[03:01] <LjL> Code-E: ^
[03:01] <Max_-> jrib, -rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data 86 2006-10-19 20:27 /var/www/DMV/text/product/fr.php
[03:01] <hubuntu_______> Remember... You are using a live CD and as such your system may vary from the described system, But give it a shot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:01] <Code-E> ok
[03:01] <jrib> Max_-: ah ok see the group doesn't have write permissions
[03:01] <LjL> !multiverse > code-e
[03:01] <Code-E> LjL what is the command do get it
[03:01] <Code-E> I have all the repositories selected
[03:02] <LjL> Code-E: "sudo apt-get install quake2", after enabling multiverse
[03:02] <Code-E> :S
[03:02] <hubuntu_______> good luck El... do you speak other languages? I found also a how-to in spanish. Which seems easier to me.
[03:02] <Code-E> I tried
[03:02] <Max_-> jrib,  ohh if I remember well its   owner,group,all  right?
[03:02] <LjL> Code-E: are you sure you have multiverse enabled correctly?
[03:02] <Code-E> yea
[03:02] <MrKeuner> hi, i am running a cronjob but not getting any action or the output. what might be a problem?
[03:02] <Code-E> settings, repositories
[03:02] <MrKeuner> syslog tells me that it was run
[03:02] <LjL> Code-E: and apt-get is not finding the packages?
[03:02] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:02] <Max_-> jrib, chmod g+w /var/www ??.. or something like this?
[03:02] <jrib> Max_-: right, so you will want to chmod -R +w /var/www
[03:02] <jrib> Max_-: ok we were both half right
[03:03] <Mad3Max3> is there a filebrowser like totalcommander for linux.. something similar...?
[03:03] <Code-E> Something is using adminstrative privalidges
[03:03] <LjL> Code-E: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[03:03] <jrib> Max_-: chmod -R g+w /var/www    the -R will make it recursive so it gets the files inside
[03:03] <Code-E> But I dont know what
[03:03] <cheesy> i have problems mounting with my CD/DVD Drive: Pioneer_DVD_ROM_ATAPIModel_DVD_120S
[03:03] <El> hubuntu: thanks, il see what i can manage :p
[03:03] <Max_-> jrib heheh okay, thanks a lot :)
[03:03] <LjL> Code-E: uh? is that an error message? if so, paste it to the pastebin as well
[03:03] <strabes> mad3max3: there's a few: pcmanfm, gnome commander, thunar
[03:03] <hubuntu_______> remember you are using 6.06 codename "Dapper Drake"
[03:04] <El> yep, thanks
[03:04] <cheesy> my other drive have no problems with the same disks
[03:04] <newpZ> hi i have a "NVIDIA Corporation NV15BR [GeForce2 Ultra, Bladerunner] " and the nvidia driver is not working, just nv.. any suggestions?
[03:04] <CheekyBoinc> Mad3Max3, tuxcommander , gnomecommander  etc:)
[03:04] <newpZ> i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[03:05] <Mad3Max3> CheekyBoinc, which one is best?
[03:05] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:05] <Code-E> LjL: http://pastebin.ca/210821
[03:06] <CheekyBoinc> I like the Tuxcommander.....test both :)
[03:06] <LjL> Code-E: i don't seem to see multiverse enabled. try adding the word "multiverse" at the end of lines 16 and 17, and then issuing a "sudo apt-get update"
[03:06] <moot> LjL: everything's good now, thanks for the help
[03:07] <hubuntu_______> newpZ use sudo aptitude and choose the right one or try System->Administration->Synaptic
[03:07] <zenlinuxNH> Where can I read up on some documentation regarding the changes to init in Edgy?
[03:07] <Code-E> so deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[03:07] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[03:07] <jrib> ubotu: tell zenlinuxNH about upstart
[03:07] <Code-E> Like that?
[03:07] <zenlinuxNH> thanks jrib
[03:07] <newpZ> hubuntu_______, right one what? its a nvidia card
[03:07] <hubuntu_______> zenlinux I was just reading James S.R.'s paper on the subject, but have not seen any documentation
[03:07] <hubuntu_______> try the launchpad specs
[03:08] <LjL> Code-E: yes. oh, also, do the same on lines 31 and 32 (security), and add "universe multiverse" to lines 6 and 7 (updates)
[03:08] <hubuntu_______> jrib... I have to learn taht :)
[03:08] <hubuntu_______> ubotu: tell hubuntu_______ about upstart
[03:08] <Mad3Max3> strabes, how about Krusader? anygood
[03:09] <El> hey hubuntu- in that guide you gave me, is it necesary to do "sudo apt-get upgrade"? Its just that it says its gonna download 118mb, which is gonna take ages lol. is it OK to skip that step?
[03:09] <HLM> !upstart
[03:09] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <strabes> mad3max3: never used it; it looks good. it's twin panel like konqueror can be.
[03:09] <rixth> How can I stop khubd from taking 100% CPU, I can't even kill the damn process, it doesn't even respond to signal 9.
[03:09] <scorpio-brizing> hello i have a few new user questions  if anyone has time
[03:09] <strabes> mad3max3: just try out different ones and see which one you like
[03:09] <strabes> the problem is that the places menu doesn't want to work with them
[03:09] <jrib> !ask
[03:09] <strabes> scorpio-brizing: just ask!
[03:10] <rixth> !ask > scorpio-brizing
[03:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:10] <scorpio-brizing> ok i have a linmodem and i have an ATI hehe
[03:10] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:10] <scorpio-brizing> i got all the steps to make my US robotics 56k work but for some reason the command doesnt work in terminal
[03:10] <Code-E> LjL: so it should look like this:
[03:10] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:10] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:10] <Code-E> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[03:10] <Code-E> ## distribution.
[03:10] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[03:10] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[03:10] <Code-E> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[03:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell Code-E about paste
[03:10] <LjL> !paste
[03:10] <Code-E> ## repository.
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:10] <Code-E> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[03:10] <Code-E> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[03:10] <Code-E> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[03:10] <Code-E> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[03:10] <Eke> kick this mothafucka
[03:10] <Code-E> ## team.
[03:11] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[03:11] <Code-E> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[03:11] <strabes> mad3max3: krusader is a kde app - i dont like using kde apps with gnome but you can do w/e
[03:11] <Code-E> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[03:11] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, isnt that the PITS? it took me forever to get my monitor working correctly after that too
[03:11] <LjL> Eke: come again?
[03:11] <Code-E> ## repository.
[03:11] <Code-E> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[03:11] <newpZ> ummmmm
[03:11] <Code-E> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[03:11] <LjL> !ops
[03:11] <Code-E> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[03:11] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:11] <newpZ> stupid bastard
[03:11] <Code-E> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[03:11] <Mad3Max3> strabes, Krusader seems like the one to use.  Also saw now that Azureus is working in linux.. that cool
[03:11] <Code-E> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[03:11] <Code-E> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:11] <LjL> newpZ: no use insulting
[03:11] <jrib> heh he's almost done let him finish now
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ?
[03:11] <Eke> LjL: i didn't make a joke
[03:11] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: PITS? whast that?
[03:11] <nalioth> gnomefreak: got it
[03:11] <Code-E> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[03:11] <Code-E> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[03:11] <El> hey hubuntu- in that guide you gave me, is it necesary to do "sudo apt-get upgrade"? Its just that it says its gonna download 118mb, which is gonna take ages lol. is it OK to skip that step?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:11] <mikeymike-linux> where does firefox keep its global plugins?
[03:11] <LjL> Eke: yeah, watch your language though please
[03:11] <Code-E> sorry
[03:11] <Code-E> jees sorry
[03:11] <jrib> mikeymike-linux: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[03:11] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, I believe its a slang reference to the pits of hell but I am not sure
[03:11] <newpZ> insulting rules
[03:11] <strabes> mad3max3: yeah azureus works well in linux. if you like krusader then use it lol whatever you want
[03:11] <Mad3Max3> strabes, why not KDE apps with gnome.. is there compatibile diffculties?
[03:11] <mikeymike-linux> thank you jrib
[03:11] <nalioth> Code-E: you will be able to talk in a few minutes
[03:11] <LjL> newpZ: maybe, but not on this channel
[03:11] <scorpio-brizing> ok for my first noob question how do i log in as root or Super user?
[03:12] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: haha oh
[03:12] <newpZ> and understable when people flood
[03:12] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: well do you know how to fix this?
[03:12] <nalioth> Code-E: next time use a pastebin (read the /topic)
[03:12] <Amaranth> !sudo
[03:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:12] <rixth> How can I stop khubd from taking 100% CPU, I can't even kill the damn process, it doesn't even respond to signal 9.
[03:12] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, do yourself a favor, uninstall the gnome-screensaver and install xscreensaver instead
[03:12] <strabes> mad3max3: they work, but usually you have to download a lot of kde libraries the 1st time.
[03:12] <strabes> mad3max3: just go for it
[03:13] <scorpio-brizing> does anyone knoow how to setup a software modem?
[03:13] <LjL> Code-E: i'm not able to tell if it looks correct from that paste... but really, just make it so that every line has "main restricted universe multiverse".
[03:13] <Mad3Max3> strabes, im completly new to linux.. like in XP u have your favorite software that u always install . have to find those on linux aswell. maybe even borrow you peoples favorite ones.. lol
[03:13] <AdamMK> jrib: install went well for amarok. support for libmtp WAS THERE. however, when i open amarok it says "cannot connect to MTP device" so i tried mtp-detect in the terminal, and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27410/
[03:13] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: then xscreensaver kicks in durring movies =/
[03:13] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: both have really annoying bugs =[
[03:14] <jrib> AdamMK: I have no idea about that, sorry
[03:14] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, I use mplayer and its got a -stop-xscreensaver option
[03:14] <strabes> scorpio-brizing: you can type passwd to create a root password
[03:14] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:14] <jrib> AdamMK: only think I can guess (since this is the first time I have heard of mtp) is a permissions issue.  Is your user in the right groups?  maybe plugdev?
[03:14] <Mad3Max3> strabes, when the subject is up! KDE vs Gnome? is there any advantages with gnome verus KDE.. and ect?
[03:15] <LjL> Code-E: paste your current sources.list *to a pastebin!* and give me the URL if you are still afraid it might be incorrect
[03:15] <puff> join #ubuntu
[03:15] <lhoerste> ChickenTalons: what about totem?
[03:15] <puff> Evening.
[03:15] <ChickenTalons> lhoerste, never messed with it
[03:15] <puff> I'm trying to play an avi.  I installed totem but totem says something else is using the sound file.  Presumably firefox.
[03:15] <strabes> mad3max3: i like gnome better, some people like kde better because they say it is more powerful. kde is too much like window$ for me
[03:15] <bruenig> puff, you tried closing firefox?
[03:16] <LjL> Mad3Max3, that's a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic, but not really for here...
[03:16] <Mad3Max3> strabes, before i intalled ubuntu.. I tried the knoppix livecd.. it has KDE.. thought it was a bit unorganised for my taste..
[03:16] <newpZ> hey i think ubuntu is worse than windows vista... i bet my nvidia card will work perfectly there
[03:16] <scorpio-brizing> can someone PM me if they know anything about winmodems? or the setserial command i cant keep up in here haha
[03:16] <Code-E> http://pastebin.ca/210830
[03:16] <Mad3Max3> LjL, ok!! lol
[03:16] <Code-E> LjL
[03:16] <ChickenTalons> newpZ, then why are you here?
[03:16] <harisund> Hello! I have compiled a new kernel using the standard technique. Is there anyway I can uninstall it? (I didn't use make-kpkg. I only came to know of it after compiling the kernel)
[03:16] <El> newpZ: what build of vista are you refering to?
[03:16] <bruenig> ChickenTalons, you are familiar with trolling
[03:16] <LjL> people, what's better and what's worse and desktop wars etc. are the realm of #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:17] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:17] <newpZ> cause i wanted to make sure vista is still better
[03:17] <Amaranth> newpZ: Vista is _horrible_ for nvidia users
[03:17] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> El: not in here join #ubuntu-offtopic for windows chat
[03:17] <strabes> mad3max3: you thought kde was too unorganized? that's what i thought. you have to search through the control panel type thing for options. in gnome it's pretty simple. you can install kde and gnome at the same time if you want to just try them out: sudo apt-get install kde
[03:17] <Moosebuntu> Can I get Ubuntu to read/write to NTFS disks?
[03:17] <puff> bruenig: I have forty windwos open :-(.
[03:17] <El> Aright, sorry lol.
[03:17] <newpZ> plus i got a free linux cd in the mail
[03:17] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: ack, i've been trolled :)
[03:17] <ChickenTalons> bruenig, sure, I do it sometimes if I have been banned from somewhere and I avoid the ban using a proxy and return to harass
[03:17] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[03:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:17] <Amaranth> !fuse
[03:17] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:17] <newpZ> horible but still working
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Moosebuntu: write is not supported or safe
[03:17] <strabes> mad3max3: it will take a long time but you can try kde out some more if you want
[03:17] <sha> nihaoa
[03:17] <sha> hello
[03:17] <Moosebuntu> gnomefreak> ok, thx!
[03:17] <bruenig> ChickenTalons, yeah that was more an answer to your newpZ question
[03:17] <sha> how are you
[03:18] <sha> hello
[03:18] <scorpio-brizing> anyone know anything about setting up a software modem?
[03:18] <hikenboot> hello all---I cant seem to get my nvidia driver and glx to work with direct rendering on a FX5200 PCI video card any ideas why this is?
[03:18] <strabes> mad3max: most of the default prograsm that come with ubuntu are pretty awesome
[03:18] <Amaranth> newpZ: If nvidia doesn't work on Ubuntu it's one of two things: 1) You set it up wrong or 2) the driver that's _provided by nvidia_ is broken
[03:18] <Brydenn33> anyone have FrostWire installed? I'm having trouble getting it running
[03:18] <ChickenTalons> bruenig, sure - just letting you know how I was familiar with it
[03:18] <jackson> I just got a new HP PhotoSmart C6100 wireless printer and I'm trying to set it up with gnome-cups-manager but I have no idea where to start. does anybody know how to set up a wireless printer?
[03:18] <LjL> Code-E: you can remove the last two lines, since they've become redundant now that you've added it all to the other dapper-security lines. as for the rest, it looks ok
[03:18] <newpZ> so is a nvidia GeForce2 Ultra, Bladerunner to eleet for linux?
[03:18] <bruenig> ChickenTalons, yes I figured as much, it was rhetorical you see
[03:18] <Code-E> ok
[03:18] <Code-E> Thanks
[03:18] <bruenig> Brydenn33, you have jre installed?
[03:18] <Mad3Max3> strabes, well .. Ill stick with Gnome.. I like the layout.. maybe KDE for another computer,,
[03:18] <Brydenn33> i believe so let me double check
[03:19] <ChickenTalons> bruenig, alrighty then...
[03:19] <strabes> mad3max3: good decision :)
[03:19] <newpZ>  it came free with my purchase of a ultra-led kit for my case.....blue and red led's!
[03:19] <Amaranth> ChickenTalons: Illegal activities are off-topic here.
[03:19] <newpZ> your mom is broken
[03:19] <LjL> newpZ...?
[03:19] <Mad3Max3> strabes, darn azureus won't start.. it's stuck at loading screen
[03:20] <bruenig> lol
[03:20] <Brydenn33> hehe bruenig: guess i didnt. downloading now
[03:20] <sentinel> I have some problems configurating KDE in ubuntu
[03:20] <sentinel> kde-config does not start...
[03:20] <newpZ> not nice! microsoft wouldnt have kicked me out! they have friendlier people!
[03:20] <lhoerste> I've got gnome-screensaver set to blank my screen and power management set to turn off my monitor after 10 min but when I leave my computer running, the screen goes black at the intended time but the backlights stay on. How can I fix this?
[03:20] <strabes> mad3max3: sorry i dont use azureus - i dont pirate anything =\
[03:21] <Amaranth> newpZ: Then go there and stop trolling.
[03:21] <LjL> newpZ, just stop trolling, please... we've had enough trolling in the last few minutes
[03:21] <newpZ> :)
[03:21] <newpZ> sorry.. was fun for a second!
[03:21] <Cas> Hello, yesterday a computer was shutdown hard because of a defect battery. Now the partition does mounts, if gives no errors with fsck, but the active user it's home directory has no rights/owner and give an Input/Output error on each command (chmod/chown/cd). Any ideas how to fix this?
[03:22] <Cas> btw the partition type is ext3
[03:22] <ChickenTalons> Cas, you may have to reformat your drive
[03:22] <mikeymike-linux> how would i put a flash plugin into the global plugins directory of firefox?
[03:23] <Cas> ChickenTalons: for now I would like to know if it's possible to get back the data
[03:23] <Mad3Max3> strabes, oh.. thats an missconception. lot's of companies use bittorent to have ppl download their software.. freesoftware and ect.. I downloaded my ubuntu edgy via Bittorrent.. a good thing with bittorrent for distribuation is that u don't have to have a server . saves money.. World of warcraft uses the bittorrent teqniue for their patches
[03:23] <ChickenTalons> Cas - if you boot off of the ubuntu livecd you should be able to recover your data
[03:23] <Cas> mikeymike-linux: locate/whereis the file you would like to replace
[03:23] <mikeymike-linux> well its just that
[03:23] <newpZ>  and your father is a hampster! and your sister smells of elderberries!
[03:23] <El> is there a way to edit what gets downloaded when i do "sudo apt-get upgrade"? Its realy annoying running the upgrade for a driver update, and vbeing forced to download 100mb+ of updates i dont want/need. (eg openOffice updates etc)
[03:23] <mikeymike-linux> the global directory is perm'd obviously
[03:24] <Cas> ChickenTalons: It's not my root dir so there is no need for that
[03:24] <mikeymike-linux> and for some reason my firefox wont read my /home/.mozilla/plugins/
[03:24] <mikeymike-linux> only the globals.....
[03:24] <Cas> ChickenTalons: but what tools can I use to recover the partition?
[03:24] <mikeymike-linux> i already tried putting it in my user plugins folder
[03:24] <ChickenTalons> Cas, dd? cp?
[03:24] <rawrness> anyone have an idea why ia m banned from offtopic?
[03:24] <newpZ> and call me roger the shrubber bitch
[03:24] <strabes> mad3max3: indeed. i should have said that i have no use for torrents at the moment, mainly because my college's proxy server blocks pretty much everything
[03:25] <dougsko> El: only make it so that youre using the security and/or main repos, leave out the extra ones
[03:25] <ChickenTalons> rawrness, they're ban-happy in there, big time.
[03:25] <rawrness> Very much so then
[03:25] <mikeymike-linux> what is the command to rename a file
[03:25] <mikeymike-linux> wtf.
[03:25] <rawrness> if i don't even know what i did...
[03:25] <mikeymike-linux> isn't it rename?
[03:25] <El> dougsko: how do i do that?
[03:25] <agentcy> mv
[03:25] <bruenig> mikeymike-linux, generally use "mv whatever newwhatever"
[03:25] <Mad3Max3> strabes, ok.. but do u have to go via their proxy.. can't u connect via the mainbone?
[03:25] <agentcy> mikeymike, mv oldfile newfile
[03:26] <mikeymike-linux> ah.
[03:26] <mikeymike-linux> ok
[03:26] <rawrness> perhaps they didn't like me jumping on other users backs cause they said they wehere zebras
[03:26] <newpZ> i guess i need to get the nvidia legacy drivers
[03:26] <Cas> ChickenTalons: cp doesn't work since I can't enter the directory, and it seems to me that dd would copy the faults with it
[03:26] <newpZ> anyone know where i can score those for ubuntu?
[03:26] <bruenig> !nvidia
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <ChickenTalons> Cas, try booting off of the livecd first, then mounting the drive
[03:26] <dougsko> El: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the stuff you dont need
[03:26] <newpZ> no
[03:26] <strabes> mad3max3: i believe so
[03:26] <newpZ> LEGACY nvidia drivers
[03:26] <dougsko> El: if you look at it, it will make sense to you
[03:26] <El> dougsko: thank you very much :)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> rawrness: 1st your not banned in -offtopic 2nd this is not the place for this topic
[03:27] <Cas> ChickenTalons: what would that do, does the livecd has more sanity checks before mounting? currently the partition is disabled in my fstab
[03:27] <rawrness> [474]  #ubuntu-offtopic You're banned from that channel
[03:27] <dougsko> El: youre very much welcome
[03:27] <newpZ> gnomefreak, are u female?
[03:27] <ChickenTalons> Cas, the livecd doesn't have a screwed up filesystem full of errors, your HD does
[03:27] <rawrness> looks like it to me and i wouldd put it in the right channel if was not banned
[03:28] <Cas> the "/" is not screwed up, only my /home
[03:28] <Cas> ChickenTalons: ^^
[03:28] <simtower> hello does wmv9 work on ubuntu?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> rawrness: your nick nor your ip are on the ban list
[03:28] <ChickenTalons> Cas, fsck is the tool to check
[03:28] <jrib> simtower: yes, with mplayer (or xine) and w32codecs
[03:29] <newpZ> gnomefreak, honestly are u female?
[03:29] <jrib> ubotu: tell simtower about w32codecs
[03:29] <Cas> ChickenTalons: like I said, fsck doesn't give any errors
[03:29] <simtower> jrib: thanks i am installing it asap
[03:29] <_avatar__> hello all
[03:29] <LjL> newpZ, honestly, is that ontopic?
[03:29] <rawrness> !w32codecs
[03:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <gnomefreak> newpZ: does it matter and you were asked to join #ubuntu-offtopic for general/windows chat
[03:29] <_avatar__> !dhcp
[03:29] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[03:29] <ChickenTalons> Cas - then you can back up your data and transfer it back over or deal with the errors
[03:30] <newpZ> im not talking about windows
[03:30] <_avatar__> my ftp file transfers are stalling
[03:30] <Random_Transit> hey, question...i have JRE installed but i can't get java applets running in Firefox
[03:30] <Amaranth> !sun-java-plugin
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java-plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <newpZ> i was asked... you act like your a natzi
[03:30] <bruenig> Random_Transit, you need the java plugin too
[03:30] <dougsko> newpZ: im pretty sure gnomefreak said general/windows, note the slash, and get over it
[03:31] <Cas> ChickenTalons: like I said, I can't cd into my directory, ls -l gives me ? ? ? ? ? dirname, and chmod, chown and cd all gives me input/output error
[03:31] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-plugin
[03:31] <ChickenTalons> Cas, like I said, use the LIVECD
[03:31] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:31] <simtower> why is it a ban
[03:31] <El> Hey, im trying to install ntfs-3g, and get to the last step in the guide im following, and I get the following error:      "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[03:31] <El> Reading package lists... Done
[03:31] <El> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:31] <El> Package ntfs-3g is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:31] <El> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:31] <El> is only available from another source
[03:31] <El> E: Package ntfs-3g has no installation candidate
[03:31] <El> "
[03:31] <bruenig> !paste
[03:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:31] <El> aa
[03:31] <El> very sorry
[03:31] <Cas> ChickenTalons: I'm booting that already, but I've no idea how it could help
[03:31] <jbmigel> !upgrade flash
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <jbmigel> !flash
[03:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:32] <ChickenTalons> Cas, that should allow you access to your /home directory.
[03:32] <mikeymike-linux> ok look
[03:32] <holycow> http://www.cyskat.de/dee/progxorg.htm
[03:32] <holycow> neato
[03:32] <sentinel> my kde control center is nowhere to find, and if I try to start kde-config manually, nothing happens. Anyone got an idea about what to do?
[03:32] <mikeymike-linux> all i want to know is..... there's 2 plugin folders that im concerned with..... my user and the global.........
[03:32] <Cas> ChickenTalons: Ok, I will take a look, thanks for your time
[03:32] <ChickenTalons> Cas, good luck with that.
[03:32] <jbmigel> !flash9
[03:32] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[03:32] <Cas> tnx
[03:33] <ChickenTalons> Cas, if I were you, i'd prepare myself for a HD wipe
[03:33] <mikeymike-linux> oh nice
[03:33] <Cas> ChickenTalons: I think I will replace the whole harddrive, smart already gave me some small errors in the past
[03:33] <El> Hey, im trying to install ntfs-3g, and get to the last step in the guide im following, and I get the following error:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27412/  The guide i was following is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[03:33] <Mad3Max3> strabes, Do I have to insall java runtimes in Linux like in windows.. or is that already installed?
[03:33] <jbmigel> Cas you can fix smart by overwritting 0's to the entire drive wuith DD
[03:34] <strabes> mad3max3: yes you do
[03:34] <LjL> Cas: what "small errors"? if SMART is saying the driver is not healthy, that is if any attribute is below the limit, the drive must *definitely* be replaced ASAP
[03:34] <strabes> that's kinda offtopic though
[03:34] <Mad3Max3> apt-get install Java?
[03:34] <hubuntu_______> flash player 98 rulez!!
[03:34] <hubuntu_______> 9
[03:34] <jbmigel> Cas if you real cool you can dd -if /dev/hda -of /dev/hda and ssave your data too
[03:34] <LjL> !java > Mad3Max3
[03:34] <sentinel> sorry, it all worked out... found out that the control center is named kcontrol
[03:34] <Mad3Max3> how do I install flash 9
[03:34] <Mad3Max3> is that in apt-get+
[03:35] <michael__> isnt 9 still a beta?
[03:35] <LjL> jbmigel: -if /dev/hda -of /dev/hda? somehow that doesn't sound right...
[03:35] <hubuntu_______> I know propietary software sucks but you know what I mean... I've waiting for ages to se a site and now it works... no lag.
[03:35] <timalot> anyone know how to fix nautilus samba browsing? when i click windows network i get: "smb:///" is not a valid location.
[03:35] <puff> Hm, I have a dependency conflict between totem-xine and totem-gstreamer.  Apt seems to want to remove totem-gstreamer to install totem-xine.  Which should I use?
[03:35] <mikeymike-linux> how do you enable ssh in xubuntu?
[03:35] <Cas> jbmigel: yes I will try, but I've no spare drive left at the moment, and it's 40 GB
[03:35] <jbmigel> LjL i honestly havent tried it but hear it works great... also fixes smart errors
[03:35] <cafuego> LjL: Notable exception is the WD 1600 SATA range which have a firmware error and report an incorrect temperature (by about 30C)
[03:35] <Cas> LjL: I know, it's not my pc I've warned for this
[03:36] <Eke> hey, how did this happen. i have a laptop and its connected to my router (wirelessly) and i opened this program on my linux machine and i see the folders: Shared Docs which is located on my laptop. any idea? is this why the reason why it is not safe to connect to someone's router?
[03:36] <bruenig> Mad3Max3, there are a few ways to do it. If you want to do it via apt-get, you should probably go here http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/
[03:36] <LjL> jbmigel, but usually, when SMART reports an error, the driver has *physically failed*, and keeping it in use is unsound at best... well, besides exceptions like what cafuego said i suppose
[03:36] <timalot> mikeymike-linux: get openssh-server package
[03:36] <cafuego> jbmigel: If SMART says the drive is failing, get a new drive. Really.
[03:36] <mikeymike-linux> what does this mean ? sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[03:37] <jbmigel> LjL I disagree... I have had blue screens create hd errors that I repaired with DD and have used the drives fine for years after
[03:37] <mikeymike-linux> timalot, apt-get install openssh-server       ???
[03:37] <cafuego> jbmigel: Back up the data and run a testvia smartctl, see what it says.
[03:37] <hubuntu_______> El how did your data rescue operation go?
[03:37] <El> im stuck
[03:37] <mikeymike-linux> timalot, already the newest version
[03:37] <dougsko> mikeymike, you have to call sshd by its full path
[03:37] <hubuntu_______> where?
[03:37] <LjL> jbmigel, cafuego: i can't really comment on the merits of filling the drive with zeroes or rewriting the entire contents still with dd, but that smells like urban legend to me. SMART is intended to tell you when the drive has failed. a failed drive cannot be restored safely.
[03:37] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, okay thanks
[03:38] <El> I get this error on the klast step of installing ntfs-3g http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27412/
[03:38] <LjL> jbmigel, "blue errors" aren't SMART errors i think
[03:38] <pike_> mikeymike-linux: it should already be running if you used apt-get to instal
[03:38] <timalot> mikeymike-linux: so u have it running then ? ... sshd is the process name
[03:38] <mikeymike-linux> i guess i should have them grep ps aux
[03:38] <mikeymike-linux> for sshd
[03:38] <jbmigel> cafuego LjL then buy a new drive... please send me all your old ones
[03:38] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: you can find the full path like this: which sshd
[03:38] <mikeymike-linux> yeah already did
[03:38] <cafuego> LjL: Well, depends on the failure. Most drives manage to move data when a sector goes bad; transparent to the OS and user. It does still mean the drive is bad and the failure will in the end be more catastrophical.
[03:39] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, im helping someone do it
[03:39] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: oh ok
[03:39] <mikeymike-linux> i had them grep processes it sruning already
[03:39] <cafuego> jbmigel: Just run the smart test.
[03:39] <LjL> cafuego, note though that when i say "SMART error", i mean an attribute going below the minimum threshold
[03:39] <mikeymike-linux> any ideas on what ports to use
[03:39] <timalot> 22
[03:40] <mikeymike-linux> well the reason why i ask which ports is because i cant connect on default port
[03:40] <Eke> any idea?
[03:40] <Eke> hey, how did this happen. i have a laptop and its connected to my router (wirelessly) and i opened this program on my linux machine and i see the folders: Shared Docs which is located on my laptop. any idea? is this why the reason why it is not safe to connect to someone's router?
[03:40] <mikeymike-linux> perhaps a diff port that might work
[03:40] <cafuego> LjL: When I say smart error I mean the bios going "THE DRIVE IS FAILING!!!"
[03:40] <mikeymike-linux> its probably because of the router
[03:40] <jbmigel> cafuego i have no current errrors... I fixed them all
[03:40] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: it doesnt matter, i like using something other than 22 to keep script kiddies from trying to brute force it (not that it really matters too much)
[03:40] <hubuntu_______> El did you add the deb repositories as described on the forum?
[03:40] <cafuego> jbmigel: You fixed smart errors? Did you run 'smartctl --test=long' ?
[03:40] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, well the person im connecting to is behidn a router and i dont think they can configure it
[03:40] <hubuntu_______> if you take asudo apt-get update
[03:40] <LjL> cafuego: well, AFAIK that *does* mean that an attribute has passed the threshold. anyway, you don't think that if the BIOS tells you that the drive is to be replaced ASAP, no ifs no buts...?
[03:41] <timalot> i hate it when ppol hammer port 22
[03:41] <hubuntu_______> before you try to install it should work
[03:41] <El> i did
[03:41] <jbmigel> cafuego yes... it took a long time and then the log said it was fine...
[03:41] <Code-E> I installed quake 2 finally through apt-get and now i am getting error:  SNDDMA_Shutdown
[03:41] <Code-E> recursive shutdown
[03:41] <Code-E> Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[03:41] <hubuntu_______> did you run the apt-get update command?
[03:41] <puff> Hm, this site seems to indicate that totem-xine is preferable to totem-gstreamer:  http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles
[03:41] <cafuego> jbmigel: then there's no problem.
[03:41] <El> i did a sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:41] <dougsko> timalot: yeah seriosuly, ppl still brute my one box, but i wrote a script to firewall them after 5 minutes of failed attempts
[03:41] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, how might i find their IP of their router?
[03:41] <hubuntu_______> mmm
[03:42] <mikeymike-linux> its a westell
[03:42] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: tell them to get online and google, "whats my ip"
[03:42] <jbmigel> cafuego correct... I was just saying you can fix a broken drive... before i fixed it it would not boot... bios complained drive failure...
[03:42] <strabes> lol "what's my ip"
[03:42] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, that wont give them their lan router IP
[03:42] <iammisc> i have a 37.26 gb hard drive with winxp on it. I want to partition it (resize the ntfs partition) and install ubuntu on it. How should i (a) partition the drive and(b) how should i impement this scheme?
[03:42] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, i need their router ip so we can sign in and forward port 22
[03:42] <hubuntu_______> I think you have to take a second look of your /etc/apt/sources.list with sudo nano or sudo gedit
[03:42] <ChickenTalons> jbmigel, itll do that if you put the wrong jumpers on
[03:42] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: well the lan IP is probly either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[03:43] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, for the router
[03:43] <El> il paste my sources.list to you, 1 sec
[03:43] <mikeymike-linux> to configure the router
[03:43] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: thats what im talking about
[03:43] <hubuntu_______> try adding the deb lines for DAPPER and then save. Reopen the file to check if they are still there
[03:43] <cafuego> jbmigel: probably a loose cable or somesuch - it happens.
[03:43] <Code-E> Does anybody know?
[03:43] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, hmm
[03:43] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: else youre going to have to tell them to google "whats my IP"
[03:43] <hubuntu_______> and thry the update + upgrade + install feature
[03:43] <jbmigel> ChickenTalons it has nothing to do with jumpers... my friend had a blue screen in windows and he couldnt ever use the drive... he gave it to me i fixed it and now its my freebsd server
[03:43] <Eroick> Is anyone here running a LinkSys WPC54G? (PCMCIA card). Is it hard to get running?
[03:44] <ChickenTalons> jbmigel, I KNOW it has nothing to do with your jumpers , im just saying it doesnt mean a drive is broken just because it gives you a bios error
[03:44] <hubuntu_______> It should work... trsut me. I'm under dapper and run ntfs-3g without problems
[03:44] <El> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27414/
[03:44] <El> thats my sources.list
[03:44] <hubuntu_______> Erocik I have tried that before. You must use ndiswrapper
[03:45] <jbmigel> ChickenTalons ah i see... well in my case it was smart... it complained when i tested it, er before i fixed it
[03:45] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: if youre not on their lan, they will have to find out their external IP, which is the IP of their router
[03:45] <wheelswitch> does any one know how to get dvd rip to rip an iso file straight to avi?
[03:45] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, yeah im not on their lan
[03:45] <kismet_> Why won't the Login Screen come up if, when I logged out, I had sudo privledges?
[03:45] <ccchis> Hey all--anyone know how to get saned daemon running on dapper? I have all the packages installed and scanning works with xsane, but I am trying to network the scanner
[03:45] <ChickenTalons> jbmigel, did you open up the drive and repair something?
[03:45] <mikeymike-linux> oh well.
[03:45] <hubuntu_______> ok run, again, the apt-get update
[03:46] <jbmigel> ChickenTalons i wish... havent had the guts to crack one yet
[03:46] <hubuntu_______> and then apt-get install ntfs-3g
[03:46] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: so to find their external IP, tell them to google, "whats my ip"
[03:46] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, how can i figure out what their lan ip is
[03:46] <ChickenTalons> jbmigel, so what are you saying was "broken" that you fixed?
[03:46] <mikeymike-linux> wont lspci show it
[03:46] <mikeymike-linux> or ifconfig
[03:46] <mikeymike-linux> rather
[03:46] <jbmigel> ChickenTalons you can scroll up if your interested in that
[03:46] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: if theire running linux it will
[03:46] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, ifconfig -a
[03:46] <mikeymike-linux> right
[03:46] <ChickenTalons> jbmigel, uh huh. Thanks anyhow.
[03:46] <dave55> hey
[03:47] <dave55> question
[03:47] <agentcy> first of all take the "-linux" off your name :P
[03:47] <dave55> i have a 40 gig hardrive
[03:47] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: but you wont be able to access their internal IP. itll be something like 192.168.x.x
[03:47] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, i know i wont be able to
[03:47] <jbmigel> dave55 that is not a question
[03:47] <dave55> im wondering how much i should give to root  home and swap
[03:47] <mikeymike-linux> i have to tell them to tell the router to pass 22 to their internal IP
[03:47] <Plecebo> I upgraded to edgy and got an error about xorg installation failure as well as ubuntu-desktop. Is there a way I can check to see what version I have and complete the upgrade if it failed?
[03:48] <jbmigel> dave55 are you building a server or your desktop?
[03:48] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: right. do you know what kind of router they have? im sure linksys or netagear have a doc on port forwarding
[03:48] <ChickenTalons> Dave, I tend to make a 100mb /boot, make my swap 2.5 times the amount of memory I have, and give the rest to /
[03:48] <Brydenn33> Hey bruenig: i installed JRE and still get this when i run FrostWire... runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[03:48] <dave55> laptop
[03:48] <ChickenTalons> OOPS
[03:48] <ChickenTalons> dave55, , I tend to make a 100mb /boot, make my swap 2.5 times the amount of memory I have, and give the rest to /
[03:48] <hubuntu_______> El try this one.... http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 this thread seems more compact, specific for dapper  and comprehensive
[03:48] <bruenig> hmmm, the runFrost.sh script must be having some problems...
[03:48] <El> k
[03:48] <El> il have a look
[03:48] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, they have a westell and they are in the web config for it
[03:48] <Brydenn33> yah
[03:48] <El> thanks
[03:48] <Crescendo> I suspect that I'm not getting the correct updates, I have Automatix2 installed, I think it messed my sources.list - how can I right this?
[03:48] <mikeymike-linux> it was 192.168.1.1
[03:49] <jbmigel> dave55 ChickenTalons has recommeded good sizes... but id use way less swap if you have at least 512 ram
[03:49] <mikeymike-linux> dougsko, its asking for user and pw lol i need to find the defaults for westell's
[03:49] <LjL> !automatix > Crescendo
[03:49] <LjL> !source-o-matic > crescendo
[03:49] <hubuntu_______> It will work in the end :) and your data will get out on the harddisk.. netx time: fORMAT THE DRIVE AS FAT :)
[03:49] <Acheu> hey all
[03:49] <bieb> Has anyone gotten a Dell DJ30 to work on Ubuntu?
[03:49] <ccchis> no saned users?
[03:49] <pike_> dave55: normally i do about 6-9 gigs for / alot most everything to /home and 512-1g for swap (that i never really touch)
[03:49] <ChickenTalons> dave55, jbmigel is correct, that much swap for a 32 bit system with 512mb of ram or more is a bit overkill.
[03:49] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: http://www.phenoelit.de/dpl/dpl.html
[03:50] <dave55> ok
[03:50] <rawrness> talk of overkll
[03:50] <dave55> oh ok
[03:50] <mikeymike-linux> thank you dougsko
[03:50] <dave55> i have like 700
[03:50] <dave55> ram
[03:50] <rawrness> i have a 5 gb swap:P
[03:50] <LjL> ccchis: no, no sane users here. oh wait, that wasn't what you asked was it? yeah, i used saned. wouldn't say i'm an expert.
[03:50] <dougsko> mikeymike-linux: np
[03:50] <dave55> thank you
[03:50] <jbmigel> rawrness on your laptop with a 40gb hdd?
[03:50] <ccchis> Ha Ljl
[03:50] <ChickenTalons> dave55, you have 768 mb ram?
[03:50] <rawrness> not in contex....
[03:50] <rawrness> my bad
[03:50] <Acheu> am a windows user, but am getting tired of its chronic diseases and i'd like to switch to linux... but before doing so, i need a few questions answered: can u help?
[03:51] <LjL> Acheu: maybe. ask.
[03:51] <davidfg4> A while ago I did "update-manager -c -d" to get beta apps, but now how do I turn off getting beta apps and updates?
[03:51] <Acheu> well 1rst will i still be able to play games like starcraft, need for speed, ect
[03:51] <rawrness> qustions
[03:51] <Acheu> ?
[03:51] <rawrness> i love questoins
[03:51] <gnomefreak> davidfg4: once youve started you cant revert it
[03:51] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, linux is more work than windows but definitely rewarding, and ubuntu's very easy to install
[03:51] <jbmigel> rawrness the answer is use less swap
[03:51] <dougsko> Acheu: probly not. some games can be played with wine or cedega though
[03:51] <jbmigel> :P
[03:51] <davidfg4> what?
[03:51] <SpudDogg> Does anyone here know the command to view the wireless card's chipset?
[03:51] <alex_> I have a question
[03:51] <Acheu> ok
[03:52] <iammisc> what is the best way to resize ntfs partitions so i can install ubuntu?
[03:52] <Flannel> gnomefreak: er, no, the -c and -d are for that session only, I think that's what he means... unless he wants to revert from edgy to dapper
[03:52] <hikenboot> any idea how to enable direct rendering on nvida fx5200 video card?
[03:52] <ccchis> It seems you have to start saned using the start-up scripts but I cant't get it to load at boot
[03:52] <rawrness> Perhaps starcraft with wine?
[03:52] <LjL> Acheu: games that are only released for Windows can sometimes be played in Wine, which is a Windows compatibility layer, or Cedega, which is a (commercial) version of it. However, it's rarely easy, and only works for some games
[03:52] <alex_> If i download EDGY will it auto update on the 26th to the final build?
[03:52] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, I would HIGHLY recommend hooking yourself up with a dual-boot system until you're accustomed to linux enough to leave windows
[03:52] <dougsko> SpudDogg: try lshw
[03:52] <Flannel> alex_: yes
[03:52] <jbmigel> SpudDogg you can use dmesg or lspci... the latter working better
[03:52] <Flannel> alex_: like normal updates
[03:52] <davidfg4> edgy is fine, i just don't want more beta stuff
[03:52] <alex_> okay thanks
[03:52] <hubuntu_______> does anyone here know if edgy eft 6.10 have ntfs-3g support built-in?
[03:52] <alex_> Flannel
[03:52] <LjL> !nvidia > hikenboot
[03:52] <Acheu> ok: ya dual boot seems wise
[03:52] <alex_> One more question
[03:52] <alex_> http://pastebin.ca/210750
[03:52] <alex_> hello, i installed ubuntu.. and for some reason the package manager wont install open office-common
[03:53] <hikenboot> ok
[03:53] <Mad3Max3> I have something strange mounted.. a diskdrive.. I don't have a diskdrive installed in computer.. not even one in the house! lol
[03:53] <gnomefreak> hubuntu_______: no
[03:53] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, the only game ive found with comparable performance in linux is ut2004
[03:53] <elvar> when i try to stream something from a site the file is  400mb and i am trying to watch it but i get this error-> The xine engine failed to start. No input plugin was found. Maybe the file does not exist or cannot be accessed, or there is an error in the URL.
[03:53] <hikenboot> !nvidia > hikenboot
[03:53] <LjL> alex_: off hands, i'd try "sudo apt-get clean", which will wipe your cache, and then redownload
[03:53] <Acheu> ok
[03:53] <iammisc> how does 17 gb windows 1gb transfer(fat32) .5gb swap and 17.5 gb ubuntu sound for dual-booting ubuntu?
[03:53] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, games are much, much better in windows and cedega is 100% excrement
[03:53] <Mad3Max3> how can I see what it's origin is?
[03:53] <kitche> Mad3Max3: what do you mean by disk drive?
[03:53] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 is its mount point listed in /etc/fstab?
[03:54] <Acheu> do u guys think a win user can install ubuntu without too many problems on a comp with nforce chipset
[03:54] <Flannel> Acheu: I've got starcraft running fine in wine, can't speak for the otehr games.  You can check out winehq.com for compatability lists if you have questions regarding a specific game
[03:54] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, ESPECIALLY if youre looking to play direct3d games, dont use linux for that.
[03:54] <jbmigel> Acheu gezuntheit
[03:54] <SpudDogg> dougsko, jbmigel:  thank you
[03:54] <ChickenTalons> lol 'fine in wine"
[03:54] <elvar> what does this mean -> The xine engine failed to start. No input plugin was found. Maybe the file does not exist or cannot be accessed, or there is an error in the URL. please somebody
[03:54] <hubuntu_______> thx gnomefreak... Maybe I should send a request for feisty fawn 7.04 ? :)
[03:54] <Mad3Max3> Kitche,  says Dics 1 on it
[03:54] <johnccc> Acheu,  yes
[03:54] <Acheu> ok
[03:54] <Acheu> well, am gonna give it a try
[03:55] <gnomefreak> hubuntu_______: i doubt it will happen. but they are looking at it
[03:55] <Acheu> thx for ur help guys
[03:55] <johnccc> good luck
[03:55] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, I'll check
[03:55] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, good stuff, just remember
[03:55] <johnccc> come in here if you need help
[03:55] <Acheu> ok
[03:55] <dougsko> elvar: you probly dont have the codec to play whatever youre trying to play. or the site sucks and theres an error in the URL
[03:55] <ChickenTalons> if you're expecting it to run games like windows does you're in for a disappointment
[03:55] <Acheu> thx a lot :)
[03:55] <kitche> Mad3Max3: you sure that's not your cd or something?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> hubuntu_______: they cant not promise its safe so it wont show up in ubuntu until they can sa its safe
[03:55] <Acheu> i'll use windows for games
[03:55] <Acheu> i think
[03:55] <dougsko> elvar: or Maybe the file does not exist or  cannot be accessed
[03:55] <elvar> nope the site does not suck dougsko
[03:55] <Acheu> i'll make dual boot
[03:55] <LjL> Acheu, anyway, using the Desktop CD (which is the normal Ubuntu CD, and is also a "live" CD), you'll be able to see, mostly, if your system supports Ubuntu well enough
[03:55] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, thats what I do, I keep a dual-boot setup and I use windows for games and multimedia
[03:55] <Ranbee> hi, can gparted format windows partitions?
[03:56] <dougsko> Ranbee: yes
[03:56] <hubuntu_______> ok... well I guess using it and reporting bugs is the only way to make it happen... but it seems pretty stable to me, no bugs to repport till now
[03:56] <Ranbee> thanks
[03:56] <johnccc> Ranbee, yes
[03:56] <elvar> okei dougsko here is the true :( i am trying to watch porn movie and i have full access to the site ,and i just wanna watch it :( what should i do?
[03:56] <Ranbee> thanks :D
[03:56] <jbmigel> elvar is your door closed/locked?
[03:56] <Acheu> one more: when u install ubuntu on a system and u want to keep the windows on it, do u install ubuntu on the same hard drive or on some other one?
[03:56] <hubuntu_______> El... did that one help?
[03:56] <elvar> hehe yeah!
[03:57] <hikenboot> LjL, been there done all that accelleration still not working but I got it working just once but couldnt figure out how
[03:57] <Flannel> Acheu: either way
[03:57] <Code-E> is there a reason i am getting this error: find: home/cody/Quake2//Install/Data/baseq2: No such file or directory
[03:57] <Flannel> !tell Acheu about dualboot
[03:57] <jbmigel> elvar ok next you need a video player? you got mplayer or what/
[03:57] <LjL> Acheu: you can do either. the Ubuntu installer will ask you whether you want to wipe the disk, or shrink any existing Windows partition
[03:57] <DarthVineman> Where can I get codecs for totem? Their site doesnt have any and my video files wont play without them I dont think
[03:57] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, you can install on the same hard drive, it will resize your windows partition for you - but you NEED to defragment first
[03:57] <dougsko> elvar: i have no idea what kind of file it is...you might need wmv codecs, you might need all kinds of stuff
[03:57] <hikenboot> unfortunately it crashed with the 3ddesk shortly after
[03:57] <johnccc> Acheu, you can split your ard drive up into partitions.... one windows and 2 linux
[03:57] <Flannel> Acheu: that page might give you some more insight on the whole prcess, so you know what youre getting into ebforehand
[03:57] <Mad3Max3> Kitche, have this one in fstab -. /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto
[03:57] <Code-E> Can Someone help?
[03:57] <dougsko> elvar: either way, get vlc, its the best video player in the entire world
[03:57] <johnccc> !dualboot
[03:57] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:58] <Acheu> ok
[03:58] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, if you dont defragment you run a very high risk of mashing your windows partition
[03:58] <jbmigel> Code-E just ask your question
[03:58] <DarthVineman> Where can I get codecs for totem? Their site doesnt have any and my video files wont play without them I dont think
[03:58] <kitche> Mad3Max3: yea that's a floppy it usually puts on there even if you don't have one
[03:58] <Acheu> thanks guys
[03:58] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, have this line in fstab.. /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto
[03:58] <Code-E> Nevermind
[03:58] <Code-E> I found the problem
[03:58] <Acheu> ok ChickenTalons : defrag 1rst
[03:58] <ChickenTalons> there's special instructions for a dual boot? nice! its so easy in the installer I never figured anyone would need one
[03:58] <Acheu> i got it
[03:58] <Mad3Max3> Kitche, how can I make it not mount since i don't got a discdrive..
[03:58] <elvar> dougsko :/ but how can i start with vlc :)when i click on this link -> http://vzj43867:cejekea8@members.videosz.com/movie.php?lg=us&player=1&dvd_id=791&scene_type=movie&id_place=2&file=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.videosz.com%2F6%2F791%2F6-black-sticks-1-white-trick-3-scene2.avi  it will only bring up xine error
[03:59] <LjL> Code-E: i think it's because, to run Quake 2, you need data files from the original game (which is why the package is in Multiverse, by the way). i think the "quake2-data" package can help you installing those correctly
[03:59] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 are you sure it's not /dev/fd0 ....
[03:59] <Acheu> i guess i'll be back soon :)
[03:59] <dougsko> DarthVineman: forget totem, get vlc. i know that didnt answer your question, but youll be much happuer in the long run
[03:59] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, the install is REALLY simple though - youll like it and its a prettier install than winders too
[03:59] <Acheu> see you later guys
[03:59] <Acheu> ok
[03:59] <ChickenTalons> Acheu, good luck!
[03:59] <Acheu> am gonna try right now
[03:59] <Acheu> :)
[03:59] <ChickenTalons> Acheu,
[03:59] <Acheu> thx
[03:59] <Acheu> :)
[03:59] <jbmigel> Acheu remember not too
[03:59] <ChickenTalons> the livecd boots up into a working linux environment
[03:59] <jbmigel> ah crap
[03:59] <ChickenTalons> excrement
[03:59] <dougsko> elvar: you probly have to assiciate .avi's with vlc in your browser
[03:59] <ChickenTalons> he'll find out
[03:59] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, it just say /dev/
[04:00] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, above it I have this line.. /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:00] <ChickenTalons> ROFL
[04:00] <jbmigel> mad3Max3 that is bunk
[04:00] <ChickenTalons> /dev/hda as your cdrom eh?
[04:00] <elvar> dougsko but how can i let this vlc rise when this xine stuff runs automatic when i click on the link :( is there a way to change this ?
[04:00] <ChickenTalons> I used to use that when I'd make a livecd
[04:01] <dave55> you could always change the partitions later
[04:01] <dave55> right
[04:01] <ChickenTalons> dave55, no, not really
[04:01] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, bunk?
[04:01] <jbmigel> mad3Max3 I suggest you open a terminal and type cat /etc/fstab and see what the file really looks like
[04:01] <dave55> eeh
[04:01] <dave55> all right
[04:01] <dave55> lets pray it works
[04:01] <GaiaX11_> Acheu: I think that ubuntu or linux is not to blame about games. Must be lack of knowledge  or something else because although I do not like games, I know that in my country there are people running game business using linux. :-)
[04:01] <ChickenTalons> dave55, if you want to be safe and good, put yourself a 100mb /boot, a 1gb swap, and give the rest to /
[04:01] <dougsko> ubotu: tell elvar about multimedia
[04:02] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, what does CAT do? what kind if command is that
[04:02] <LjL> Mad3Max3: type "man cat" and you'll know
[04:02] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 cat just displays the contents of the file... man cat
[04:02] <simtower> then also do man dog
[04:02] <ChickenTalons> Mad3Max3, it makes a small, furry, evil feline pop out of your computer screen and scratch you
[04:02] <simtower> mandogs are more agressive than mancats
[04:03] <ChickenTalons> hell, girlpuppies are more aggressive than mancats
[04:03] <Mad3Max3> ChickenTalons, lol
[04:03] <ChickenTalons> uh oh we're offtopic again
[04:03] <ChickenTalons> too bad im banned from -offtopic
[04:03] <bieb> Has anyone gotten a Dell DJ30 to work on Ubuntu?
[04:03] <jbmigel> heh
[04:04] <jbmigel> bieb are you having troubles with it/
[04:04] <bsnider> is anybody here using a router?
[04:04] <dougsko> bsnider: yes
[04:04] <jbmigel> bsnider i would hope we all are.
[04:04] <bieb> jb.. it doesnt get recognized
[04:04] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, it says the same with the cat command as in the gedit
[04:04] <bsnider> dougsko: what brand?
[04:04] <bieb> I was wondering if someone had a short how to or something
[04:05] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 I dont believe you that your cdrom is being mounted from /dev/hda
[04:05] <GaiaX11_> dave55: It is not necessary to put 1gb for swap. Put the same amount that your memory is. For example: 256mb ram= 256mb swap
[04:05] <dougsko> bsnider: its just a regualr puter running openbsd, but i used to have a netgear one a few years ago
[04:05] <kitche> Mad3Max3: do you have a SATA system?
[04:05] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:05] <Mad3Max3> /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:05] <Flannel> dave55, GaiaX11_, it's best to double your RAM, well... within reason, 1gb ram probably only ever needs 1gb swap (or even less)
[04:05] <kitche> jbmigel: it might be if it's a SATA system
[04:05] <bsnider> jbmigel: what brand?
[04:05] <Shadow_mil> 1 week til edgy eft!
[04:05] <Mad3Max3> kitche, yes.. got a SATA drive
[04:06] <kitche> dave55: for 1 gig of ram you should have about 256 mb swap
[04:06] <ChickenTalons> Flannel, on my system with 1g ram I hardly ever touch my swap and I dont think ive ever used more than 100 megs or so
[04:06] <slipttees> /dev/fd0           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:06] <kitche> Mad3Max3: well just eject your cdrom
[04:06] <Mad3Max3> kitche, CD-Drive is IDE thou
[04:06] <ChickenTalons> Flannel, I beleive that will change if gentoo ever gets 64 bit for core2duo going
[04:06] <GaiaX11_> Flannel: He can double it if he intends to upgrade his PC memory. Otherwise, it is not necessary :-)
[04:07] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 no your cd rom is right... but the floppy line should point to /dev/fd0
[04:07] <kitche> ChickenTalons: gentoo has a lot of swap storms as well on 64bit
[04:07] <bsnider> jbmigel: what brand of router do you have?
[04:07] <enyawix> how do i install nvida
[04:08] <ChickenTalons> kitche, yeah im pretty sure any 64 bit OS doing heavy compiles would be hitting the swap
[04:08] <enyawix> will the installer work?
[04:08] <jbmigel> bsnider i think im plugged into a linksys now.. but ive had some others
[04:08] <gnomefreak> guys join #gentoo for gentoo chat. keep this channel for support for ubuntu
[04:08] <Flannel> GaiaX11_: with 256mb, I would double.  Since, You'll use your swap with that low of ram
[04:08] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, I don't got a floppy drive so the line shouldnt be there at all,, thats my thought of it.. :)
[04:08] <ChickenTalons> sigh - another ignore.
[04:08] <bsnider> jbmigel: that's good. can you check your /etc/resolv.conf file and paste the contents?
[04:09] <kitche> Mad3Max3: yeah you don't need that line
[04:09] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 yes you can remove it safely... but if you ever add a floppy you will have to replace it
[04:09] <Mad3Max3> kitche, ejecting the cdrom is for acheiving what exactly?
[04:10] <kitche> Mad3Max3: well you say it's mounted didn't you?
[04:10] <jbmigel> bsnider sorry I cannot provide you with that information... are you having trouble finding your name server?
[04:10] <Mad3Max3> kitche, the CD-rom drive.. yes..
[04:10] <bsnider> jbmigel: tell me one thing: is the first nameserver listed in that file the address of your router?
[04:10] <GaiaX11_> gnomefreak: I did not get the gentoo issue. ????!!!
[04:10] <jbmigel> bsnider yes
[04:10] <kitche> Mad3Max3: ejecting it should unmount it
[04:11] <bsnider> jbmigel: can you coment that line out and see if your browser still works?
[04:11] <bieb> jbmigel, did you have any ideas on the Dell DJ30?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11_: join #gentoo we are not a support channel for gentoo
[04:11] <jbmigel> MadMax3 you should sudo umount /media/floppy before removing that line
[04:11] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, adding a floppy drive.. nah.. don't think thats gonna happen.. it's like installing a steam engine in a car! :)
[04:12] <jbmigel> bsnider bieb no sorry
[04:12] <GaiaX11_> gnomefreak: Who is looking for gentoo support here then?
[04:12] <DBO> gnomefreak, you two are confusing each other =)
[04:12] <bsnider> jbmigel: no, it doesn't work, or no you won't try it?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> GaiaX11_: the 2 people talking about gentoo know who they are
[04:12] <GaiaX11_> gnomefreak: So you are right!
[04:12] <jbmigel> bsnider if i tried it and it didnt work i would have a hard time telling you about it no?
[04:13] <bsnider> jbmigel: no. it only affects http
[04:13] <bsnider> jbmigel: if http stops working, you can remove the pound and it will work again
[04:13] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, got rid of the icon now.. when I commented the line in fstab..
[04:14] <Mad3Max3> Now I have a grim task ahead of me.. getting my Imon VFD display to work in the HTPC case! *sigh*
[04:15] <munozm> Hello, Is there anyone familiar with the grub gui script?
[04:16] <Mad3Max3> Spent 4 hours yesterday at it. had dapper then.. saw that a package I needed only was for edgy.. so I formated all and installed that instead..
[04:16] <munozm> I apparently hosed my grub and am now running the live cd..  need help restoring the grub
[04:16] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee80221 subsystem and make is giving me a strange error, "no rule to make target `modules'." Any help? See full paste at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27416/
[04:17] <Phuzion> How do I install MP3 codecs?
[04:17] <jrib> !mp3 > Phuzion
[04:19] <pike_> munozm: i normally just open a terminal type sudo grub then at the grub> type root (hd0,0) enter then setup (hd0) assuming ubuntu is installed on hda1 if on hda2 it would be hd0,1 etc
[04:19] <simtower> can someone tell me how to join the channel #2,000
[04:19] <GaiaX11_> jrib: how do I use this "!mp3" irc command-like?
[04:19] <ChickenTalons> simtower, first, you put aside the drugs
[04:20] <simtower> ChickenTalons, ?
[04:20] <munozm> pike: thanks.  I'll give that a shot
[04:20] <jrib> GaiaX11_: !mp3 > GaiaX11_     just tells ubotu to send GaiaX11_ a message about mp3
[04:20] <ChickenTalons> simtower, type join #2,000
[04:20] <dougsko> ubotu: tell GaiaX11_ about mp3
[04:20] <ChickenTalons> simtower, type /join #2,000
[04:21] <dougsko> GaiaX11_: that works too
[04:21] <lastnode> guys, a friend of mine has a radeon x1900XT, but 5.10 is not picking up the driver (that is all he has), can i just ask him to change 'ati' in xorg to 'vesa' ?
[04:21] <Slynderdale> Anyone here using Firefox under linux that can check a site real quick?
[04:21] <GaiaX11_> dougsko: Uhmm!
[04:21] <cosmodad> I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper and have this feeling that my fonts look worse. Can anyone confirm this?
[04:22] <cosmodad> and possibly give a fix...
[04:22] <ChickenTalons> cosmodad, that happened to me too - you gotta go into preferences/font and fix thands
[04:22] <ChickenTalons> things
[04:22] <Iron_Man> Release Canidate just released
[04:22] <ChickenTalons> Iron_Man, for what
[04:22] <cosmodad> ChickenTalons: gee, I see the prob
[04:22] <Iron_Man> eft
[04:23] <cosmodad> ChickenTalons: you know a way to set back defaults? I'd like them the way they used to be without a lot of trial-and-error
[04:23] <ChickenTalons> cosmodad, no I dont, im sorry
[04:24] <elvar> awwwww ubuntu does not have xine packages :(
[04:24] <kitche> elvar sure it does
[04:24] <elvar> help me :( i just downloaded http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xine/xine-ui-0.99.4.tar.gz this ,and dont know how to setup
[04:24] <elvar> kitche nope it does not
[04:24] <cosmodad> ChickenTalons: ok, thanks for the hint
[04:24] <jme> elvar: start by untaring it
[04:25] <jme> tar -xvf file.tar.gz
[04:25] <jme> then follow the make instructions
[04:25] <elvar> then?
[04:25] <jme> then rtfm
[04:25] <hutchGuy> hahha...
[04:25] <jme> there will be a prominent file in there telling you how to build it
[04:26] <kitche> elvar then what's this gxine or this xine-ui
[04:26] <hutchGuy> :o)
[04:26] <jme> if it doesn't work, come back
[04:26] <cosmodad> oh and another breezy->dapper thingy: aptitude wants to remove tons of packages on startup, synaptics works right. I like the CLI tool, any way to make aptitude work correctly again?
[04:26] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to install the ieee80211 subsystem because I'm told it's necessary to get my Intel 3945ABG wireless card working. sudo make gives me "No rule to make target `modules'. Stop." Any help? More complete error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27421/
[04:26] <rawrness> leaving cyaall
[04:27] <hutchGuy> elvar: there's a README inside the directory xine after you extract it.
[04:27] <kitche> elvar: but xine-ui is what you want since that is xine
[04:28] <elvar> kitche please tell me what you know?
[04:28] <elvar> i know ubuntu has somekinda xine stuff but it does not work
[04:28] <elvar> i get errror ,that package is missing!
[04:29] <elvar> The xine engine failed to start. No input plugin was found. Maybe the file does not exist or cannot be accessed, or there is an error in the URL.
[04:29] <`m0> would flash 9 be opensourcce?
[04:29] <elvar> there is no error in that url!
[04:29] <jrib> `m0: no
[04:29] <`m0> shitty
[04:29] <celiapg1> hi, there; my husband wants to know if there is some virtual acquarium screen saver for dapper; does anybody know one?
[04:29] <cosmodad> damn LogicalDash, I knew how to help ya!
[04:30] <bLaZeD> anyone in here using the lates gtkpod?
[04:30] <elvar> kitche i get this to -> http status not 2xx:  Authorization Required
[04:31] <rixth_> I'm switching to another OS, I have a raid1 array with mdadm, how am I going to access it from my new OS? I'd probably have to disassemable the array, then rebuild it.
[04:31] <dougsko> celiapg1: xfishtank
[04:31] <celiapg1> dougsko: does it look real?
[04:32] <dougsko> celiapg1: no idea
[04:32] <celiapg1> dougsko: i will try it; tks for the info!
[04:32] <MadCowBoy> Hi there, I have a Drive that is mounted at startup and it appears on the desktop, recently, a couple reboots ago, its name as it appears is a semicolon, the fstab is unchanged, any ideas of what may have happened?
[04:34] <dougsko> elvar: try playing a real movie file and not some wack pr0n which introduces like 10 more variables into the situation
[04:34] <elvar> i want porn man .
[04:34] <elvar> i need a good dream ,before i go to sleep , my girl friend is not here
[04:35] <dougsko> elvar: so what? youre trying to troubleshoot right? thats how you do it
[04:35] <elvar> wait
[04:35] <ChickenTalons> elvar, mplayer
[04:35] <elvar> please..
[04:35] <ChickenTalons> learn it, love it
[04:35] <dougsko> elvar: vlc
[04:35] <ChickenTalons> and learn the -loop 0 command
[04:35] <joeCoT> bah, apparently debian's iceweasel will just be vanilla firefox >_<
[04:36] <sorush20> guys I have a problem I'm trying to use the laserjet 5si Nx hp with hplip, I'm trying to install the binary installation package for hplip, are the any debs out there for it for the new version ? hplip 1.6.10
[04:36] <Psykus> question: trying to install ubuntu onto a serial ATA drive, but my computer doesn't support booting from it since it's on a PCI controller card. ubuntu recognizes the drive just fine in the installer, I just can't boot from it once it's finished. i read that I could possibly make a grub bootdisk which would boot the drive, but i'm not sure how?
[04:37] <elvar> dougsko there is no problem playing .movies.
[04:37] <Psykus> i tried putting the ubuntu CD back in and selecting "boot from first hard drive", but it showed an error, guess it didn't recognize it
[04:38] <elvar> so does that mean i cant play movies from site?
[04:38] <dougsko> elvar: probably...
[04:38] <elvar> how can i switch man?
[04:38] <dougsko> elvar: find a new site
[04:38] <elvar> so this xline cant start automatic
[04:39] <elvar> is there to switch?
[04:39] <elvar> i want vlc ,or shoul i unninstall this xline?
[04:39] <dougsko> elvar: jesus dude...
[04:40] <elvar> he is not here
[04:40] <munozm> pike:  I tried the commands you suggested and now the machine just dispays grub>  when I run the boot command I see error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting.  Any thoughts?
[04:40] <h3x_0x> does anyone here have a good ALU schematic?
[04:41] <teledyn> my 1st day of using ubuntu
[04:42] <h3x_0x> ANYONE?
[04:42] <h3x_0x> anyone have any good ALU designs?
[04:43] <elvar> dougsko i chooce another site and the same shitt happins agein
[04:43] <sorush20> why do I keep getting this message please? error: 'make' command failed with status code 512
[04:43] <Psykus> question: trying to install ubuntu onto a serial ATA drive, but my computer doesn't support booting from it since it's on a PCI controller card. ubuntu recognizes the drive just fine in the installer, I just can't boot from it once it's finished and needs to reboot. i read that I could possibly make a grub bootdisk which would boot the drive, but i'm not sure how?
[04:44] <teledyn> Psykus: install grub to /dev/fd0
[04:44] <tempted> can someone tell me what my permissions should be got my phpmyadmin dir ?
[04:44] <dougsko> elvar: dude, i dont even know what kind of browser youre using. from the extremely poor way youve been trying to explain this problem, i can only *guess* that its a file association problem. read your browser's docs or google around on how to change that
[04:44] <Psykus> teledyn, I tried that, on the liveCD, didn't work, got some sort of error
[04:44] <Psykus> grub-install /dev/fd0
[04:45] <skreet> tempted: Probably www-data:www-data
[04:45] <teledyn> Psykus: grub-install --recheck /dev/fd0
[04:45] <skreet> tempted: and 755.
[04:45] <tempted> skreet: ya, i have that... but when i try to load it in the browser.. i get Fatal error: require_once() [function.require] : Failed opening required './libraries/common.lib.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php on line 36
[04:45] <Psykus> teledyn, what does the --recheck option do exactly?
[04:45] <skreet> tempted Does the file exist?
[04:46] <teledyn> man grub-install  dude
[04:46] <Psykus> it said something about not recognizing it as a BIOS device
[04:46] <Psykus> can't remember the exact text
[04:46] <fiveiron> anyone use fetchmail to grab pop3 mail and put it in a local server?
[04:46] <fiveiron> i.e. courier-imap?
[04:47] <SaxMan> anyone have an idea of which would be easier, desktop and add LAMP or Server and add Gnome?
[04:47] <teledyn> Psykus: it rechecks the device map
[04:47] <kitche> SaxMan: well with server you would have to install LAMP and Gnome
[04:47] <jrib> server has setup for lamp during install I think
[04:47] <Psykus> teledyn, ok, would I also need to specify the installed ubuntu? (since i'm running from the liveCD)
[04:47] <Psykus> as the root directory
[04:48] <teledyn> grub-install --root-directory=/target --recheck /dev/hda
[04:48] <jrib> SaxMan: gnome is just installing the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[04:48] <SaxMan> Thanks
[04:48] <Psykus> k, will try that
[04:49] <teledyn> Psykus: that should be /dev/fd0  and <target> is the mount point for the HD install
[04:49] <munozm> I believe I destroyed my menu.lst through a script I found on the ubuntu forums.  What's the best way to restore/recreate it?  Thanks
[04:49] <Psykus> ok, going to try that, back later
[04:50] <elvar> YEAH IT WORKS!
[04:50] <elvar> dougsko ok thx man
[04:50] <dougsko> elvar: so it was a file association problem?
[04:50] <SaxMan> exit
[04:50] <Peacer> Hello
[04:51] <green__saotome> i'm getting an error while trying to update to edgy. It's about not being able to calculate the amount of stuff to download. Is this common? Is there a work around?
[04:51] <Peacer> i need some help with ssh
[04:51] <thetictacaddictt> I really want to install edgy, and I don't want to wait for the final release.  Isn't the Release Candidate supposed to be out today?  I can't find much information about it.
[04:51] <CNW8835> yes it's out
[04:51] <dougsko> elvar: i didnt mean to get on your case like that, but being able to explain your problem *is* half the problem
[04:52] <green__saotome> yeah, it's out, but as i said, got an error trying to intall it
[04:52] <green__saotome> Peacer, what do you need to know?
[04:52] <tempted> got it.. reinstall phpmyadmin
[04:53] <agent> can someone confirm that locking/pinning works for them in synaptic in edgy?
[04:53] <Peacer> green__saotome well first of all, where's the config file, second, how do i start it xD
[04:54] <thetictacaddictt> where can I get it?  (xubuntu)
[04:54] <Peacer> thetictacaddictt "sudo apt-get install xubuntu --fix-install"
[04:55] <Peacer> thetictacaddictt "sudo apt-get install xubuntu* --fix-install"
[04:55] <Peacer> thetictacaddictt "sudo apt-get install xubuntu* --fix-missing"
[04:55] <Peacer> <.<
[04:55] <Mad3Max3> How do I install a theme into firefox. got the .jar file of the theme.. thought that it would do it automatical
[04:55] <Peacer> Mad3Max3 try from the browser, open themes
[04:55] <brosnan> Mad3Max3: drag and drop to the theme window
[04:56] <meso> I want to boot an ubuntu off a USB hard drive. I have a ubuntu running on the internal drive, and one installed on the USB. The machine is capable of booting from USB. What do I need to do to get the ubuntu installed on the HD to boot?
[04:56] <Mad3Max3> brosnan, that worked.. many thanks
[04:56] <thetictacaddictt> thanks Peacer.  I want to do a fresh install; could I install the beta and then do that?
[04:56] <dabaR> meso: a bootloader.
[04:56] <dabaR> !grub
[04:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:57] <hedrek> can i use easyubuntu/automatix for 6.10RC?
[04:57] <Peacer> thetictacaddictt uninstall the beta and do the aptget :)
[04:58] <meso> I have tried to get grub to work. I will look at the second reference frum ubotu. Thanks.
[04:58] <thetictacaddictt> peacer: UNinstall the beta?  I haven't installed it yet, I'm running Dapper right now but I want to start fresh.
[04:58] <jclements> de=owb|+,cx=Z] T~?W[~KsV"
[04:58] <jclements> de=owb|+,cw=Z] P@M{P=N;PJ@fQ3
[04:58] <jclements> de=owb|+,cw=Z] Q[M:RFJLP1MGPUNVP(Kp
[04:59] <Peacer> ssh
[04:59] <Peacer> !ssh
[04:59] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:59] <Mad3Max3> I found a copy of my favourite theme to Firefox that was updated to match 2.0.. Firefox themes wasn't updated with the latest.. iFox rocks
[05:00] <jclements> de=owb|+,cw=Z] Q$?wQNM>
[05:00] <jclements> de=owb|+,cw=Z] SpLGQ;NdQ;NdQ;NdQ;L%Px
[05:00] <imakethings> what can i expect from ubuntu, i am fairly new to the OS and am thinking about installing it.
[05:00] <jclements> de=owb|+,cw=Z] RwNfSpNfSqNfQ;NdQ;NdQ;OS
[05:00] <jclements> de=owb|+,cw=Z] G=SpG;
[05:00] <st3v3dnd> Is there anything special that would need to be done to build and install subversion on Dapper without synaptic? I want to use svn 1.4, but the dapper repos are stuck down around 1.3
[05:01] <dabaR> imakethings: that is not a question one can answer readily. explain better what you want to hear.
[05:02] <imakethings> lol...is it dependable enough to out perform windows, and what must i sacrifice in order to use ubuntu.
[05:02] <dabaR> st3v3dnd: what could help you is to run sudo apt-get build-dep subversion.
[05:02] <imakethings> ?
[05:03] <Psykus> no can do, it made the floppy disk succesfully, when booting off of it, I just get "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[05:03] <dabaR> imakethings: a part of your hard disk, and you can boot both for a while 'til you get familiar.
[05:03] <imakethings> i've been hearing a lot of press on ubuntu...so my attention has been drawn.
[05:03] <GigaClon> is there a program that I can use to type Kana and Kanji without switching my whole system to Japanese
[05:04] <dabaR> imakethings: come here with any questions you may have, we are especially good at answering questions for people that just started using Ubuntu
[05:04] <thetictacaddictt> imakethings, I like Ubuntu better than Windows but there are certain things missing.
[05:04] <imakethings> like?
[05:04] <Psykus> if I remembered who I was talking to i'd do the whole tab complete thing
[05:04] <thetictacaddictt> imakethings: you could always set up a dual boot system
[05:04] <batu> hiii
[05:04] <wimpies>  I just upgrade to ssh 4.3 to 4.2 and I cannot logon anymore using rsa.  Logging shows 'key is disallowed'
[05:05] <st3v3dnd> dabaR: I did that and got "E: Build-dependencies for subversion could not be satisfied." I don't see a verbose option to tell me exactly what is wrong
[05:05] <wimpies> what could be wrong ?
[05:05] <imakethings> i know all about the joys of dual booting.
[05:05] <dabaR> Psykus: can you scroll up , or dd you leave the channel?
[05:05] <imakethings> lol.
[05:05] <noxxle> can i install compiz on edgy with synaptics manager alone? do i need to edit any files??
[05:05] <RNt> [sis_alloc.c:210] : Failure to allocate back buffer. What is this?
[05:05] <Psykus> left the channel :P
[05:06] <dabaR> st3v3dnd: that is the whole error?
[05:06] <noxxle> compiz!
[05:06] <Psykus> someone was helping me with creating a floppy boot disk for getting my sata drive booted
[05:06] <dabaR> Psykus: teledyn ?
[05:06] <Psykus> yup
[05:06] <st3v3dnd> dabaR: That's it
[05:06] <kitche> noxxle: you can install beryl which is community version of compiz
[05:07] <GigaClon> I have a program looking for java and can't find it ( i have sun-java5-bin installed )
[05:07] <noxxle> its buggy tho
[05:07] <noxxle> i have edgy and it found a compiz package
[05:07] <noxxle> i enabled all the repos
[05:07] <noxxle> didnt custom add anything
[05:07] <dabaR> st3v3dnd: do you have all the source repos enabled in your sources.list?
[05:07] <kitche> noxxle: compiz is buggy as well
[05:08] <Psykus> teledyn: created the floppy successfully, upon booting from it, "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[05:08] <jrk__> GigaClon: did you run "/usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives"?
[05:08] <sentinel_> I mounted my windows disk, /dev/hda1, to /media/hda1, but the folder is locked, and I cannot get access to it through any programs that has to use the file. How do I mount it without locking it, or how do I change permissions? I tried chown -R to my user on it, but it changed nothing
[05:08] <dabaR> sentinel_: what command did you use to mount it?
[05:08] <sentinel_> mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[05:09] <dabaR> sentinel_: sudo umount /dev/hda1; sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -tntfs -oumask=0222
[05:09] <AdamMK> sudo apt-get install ... gets and installs packages. how do i change it ti REinstall packages?
[05:09] <AdamMK> to*
[05:09] <factotum> when i try to open firefox i get an error saying Firefox is already running but not responding. From what I know it is not running at all, even tried a reboot and nothing. Any suggestions?
[05:09] <dabaR> AdamMK: did you rad the man page for apt-get?
[05:09] <AdamMK> no
[05:09] <Mad3Max3> found the Tab Mix plus for 2.0 firefox.. jippi.. now things look like normal again! :)
[05:10] <dabaR> AdamMK: --reinstall
[05:10] <jrk__> factotum: is there a .pid for it in /var/run? if so, rm it
[05:10] <factotum> jrk__: alright, ill take a look
[05:10] <Peacer> I need help with ssh
[05:10] <GigaClon> is there a program that I can use to type Kana and Kanji without switching my whole system to Japanese
[05:11] <st3v3dnd> dabaR: Yep, all are enabled.
[05:11] <dabaR> factotum: does "ps aux|grep firefox" in a terminal return output?
[05:11] <Falstius> GigaClon, scim
[05:11] <Peacer> st3v3dnd could you help me with ssh?
[05:11] <dabaR> st3v3dnd: then I dont know.
[05:11] <GigaClon> ok
[05:11] <AdamMK> dabaR: ty
[05:12] <sentinel_> dabaR: perfect! Thank you. It worked. I will check out what I actually did later:)
[05:12] <Falstius> you can download the language pack from synaptic and then enable it by right clicking on an input box and changing the input method.  My wife uses it for chinese, it works well.
[05:12] <dabaR> sentinel_: you mounted it with the option for all users to be able to read and execute the files.
[05:12] <sentinel_> ok. tanks
[05:12] <sentinel_> thanks
[05:13] <factotum> alright, thanks all, got it
[05:13] <thetictacaddic> imakethings, was it?  still here? I was getting all into my explanation but I got disconnected
[05:13] <Psykus> i'm beginning to think there's no way to boot from this drive on my current system :|
[05:13] <factotum> lost track of my tty's hehe, was doing some xconfig work and had x running on another term....doh!
[05:14] <Peacer> someone... ssh... please?
[05:14] <dabaR> !helpme
[05:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:14] <jrk__> Peacer: what's ur question?
[05:14] <GhostFreeman> !cron
[05:14] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[05:14] <Megaqwerty> how do I mount a partition?
[05:14] <Peacer> I have problems with ssh
[05:14] <Peacer> i'm trying to connect from putty
[05:14] <Megaqwerty> !mount
[05:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:14] <jrk__> Peacer: and?
[05:14] <Peacer> put the port 443
[05:15] <Peacer> connected to my ip
[05:15] <Peacer> but got a connection timeout
[05:15] <jrk__> Peacer: 443 is not the ssh port, by default
[05:15] <Peacer> i put it to 443
[05:15] <AsheD> my internet either timmes out or dies from lack of host every couple hours, anybody know why this might be happening?
[05:15] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: did you answer your question?
[05:15] <jrk__> Peacer: and you're sure it's running?
[05:15] <Peacer> in the openssh-server config
[05:15] <Megaqwerty> no, not really
[05:15] <Peacer> yes
[05:15] <Peacer> i reloaded it after editing the config
[05:15] <Megaqwerty> I can't mount my ntfs partition
[05:16] <Megaqwerty> I'm using gparted, but can't figure it out
[05:16] <jrk__> Peacer: can you connect from the same box?
[05:16] <Flannel> Peacer: if you netstat, does sshd show up listening on 443? (if you have a https server, it probably won't be)
[05:16] <Shadow_mil> Megaqwerty: what does it say if you try to mount it?
[05:16] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: I had accidentally unmounted in using gparted ironically
[05:16] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: then what exactly do you want to ask? the command is called mount. to mount an ntfs partition, you first have to know what its device node is, and then have a directory you are going to mount it to, then give some options to mount, and you are set. which of those do you need help with?
[05:17] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: it was called sda2.
[05:17] <Shadow_mil> Megaqwerty: you have to unmount a device before gaprted can help you
[05:17] <jrk__> Peacer: can you connect from same box?   (ssh -p 443 me@localhost)
[05:17] <Shadow_mil> gparted*
[05:17] <Peacer> jrk__ will try
[05:17] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: gparted is not for mounting, I do not know why someone would put it there in that factoid, although I am obviously missing some info since they use it.
[05:17] <kalim86> hey
[05:17] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: in your places menu?
[05:17] <kalim86> i need help with getting my wireless to work
[05:17] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: yeah, it was called sda2 in there
[05:17] <Peacer> yes i can connect
[05:17] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to set up an vnc web server?
[05:17] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: try sudo mount -a in a terminal. then tell me how that worked.
[05:18] <dabaR> jrk__: router...
[05:18] <xenex> could i run windows xp for gaming/photoshop and then run ubuntu in a window?
[05:18] <xenex> i don't want to dual boot.
[05:18] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: sudo mount -a
[05:18] <Megaqwerty> Password:
[05:18] <Megaqwerty> then it is done
[05:18] <dougsko> xenex: you can use vmplayer
[05:18] <tempted> dual boot is where it's at!
[05:18] <jrk__> dabaR: eh?
[05:18] <Mad3Max3> do I have to install java runtime files in edgy or does them come preinstalled as default with the OS
[05:18] <xenex> yeah but would i be able to save stuff?
[05:18] <superdump> i'm running a macbook. when i boot into the current ubuntu 6.10 livecd the wireless doesn't work but after i've run the installer, it does. i guess some hardware configuration script is run. i know it uses wlan_scan_sta but i don't know how to create the ath0 and wifi0 devices to be able to use it
[05:18] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: ya, I know how it works, did it get the sda2 in the places menu now?
[05:19] <Peacer> fuxx
[05:19] <Psykus> xenex, yes, but it would kind of defeat the purpose of running ubuntu imo
[05:19] <dougsko> xenex: yes
[05:19] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: no
[05:19] <kalim86> i need help with my wireless
[05:19] <xenex> Psykus: how
[05:19] <SuperMiguel> xenex: use vmware
[05:19] <Psykus> xenex, what exactly would you need ubuntu for?
[05:19] <dabaR> jrk__: he may have a router in front, and that would explain port 443 not being forwarded to the box.
[05:19] <kalim86> im new to ubuntu and i need step by step live help please
[05:19] <nn> So.. i have this lovely dual processor dell poweredge 2300 w/ PERC raid that i need to get ubuntu onto.. got 3x9gb and 2x4gb (for now) ultra2... How the hell to get raid0 working nicely w/ the PERC? :)
[05:19] <superdump> i saw something saying to run wlanconfig but that doesn't exist on the livecd
[05:19] <jrk__> dabaR: that's why i suggested from the same box
[05:19] <Psykus> xenex, vmware
[05:19] <jrk__> dabaR: takes the network out of the picture
[05:19] <Peacer> got a new local ip... 1.5 instead of 1.4 so my router was forwarding 443 to 1.4
[05:19] <NewTrickster> no live help here
[05:20] <tempted> i rarely boot winxp... only for playing cs 1.6... i just hate how msn doesn't have personalized messages in linux.. *yet
[05:20] <imakethings> haha
[05:20] <Miker64> help me!
[05:20] <xenex> Psykus: for everything else than gaming/photoshop?
[05:20] <Miker64> help me!
[05:20] <dabaR> jrk__: and it worked, so I suggested the logical next step...
[05:20] <UKMatt> is there any difference between doing a distupgrade now or on the 26th?
[05:20] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: how about this... sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -tntfs -oumask=0222
[05:20] <Peacer> Miker64 state your question
[05:20] <kalim86> i need wireless help please!!!!
[05:20] <jrk__> dabaR: oh, i was reading another window and didn't notice it worked :)
[05:20] <reynoldd> Kalim, I'm new myself, but may be able to help. What sort of wireless adapter are you using?
[05:20] <superdump> NewTrickster: where then?
[05:20] <dabaR> !helpme
[05:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:20] <kalim86> its broadcom
[05:20] <Miker64> I downloaded ubuntu, but I can't get it to install!
[05:20] <reynoldd> Ah, go buy a new adapter :)
[05:20] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: $ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -tntfs -oumask=0222
[05:20] <Megaqwerty> mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /media/sda2 busy
[05:20] <Megaqwerty> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/sda2
[05:20] <kalim86> its built in
[05:20] <kalim86> ?
[05:21] <Miker64> I downloaded ubuntu, but I can't get it to install!
[05:21] <UKMatt> is there any difference between doing a distupgrade now or on the 26th???
[05:21] <Peacer> Miker64 what do you mean by that?
[05:21] <dabaR> UKMatt: ya, like there is a difference between a dapper install off the cd and a dist-upgrade. there will be new package versions by the 26th in other words.
[05:21] <fivre> how can I change the "Applications" in the GNOME main menu?
[05:21] <Peacer> do you have the iso?
[05:21] <reynoldd> I know, but I don't think there is much support for Broadcom adapters.
[05:21] <wastrel> sudo echo "Hi #ubuntu"
[05:21] <Miker64> Peacer, well I run the CD, but it does not do anything
[05:21] <Peacer> you need to boot from the cd
[05:22] <jrk__> Peacer:  fyi, something like this  'sudo lsof -n |grep 22 |grep TCP' is a great way to see what process really has a port open
[05:22] <Miker64> Peacer: how?
[05:22] <kalim86> what dose ok i downloaded the  from the terminal
[05:22] <kalim86> now what?
[05:22] <dabaR> Megaqwerty: use your nautilus to navigate to that folder, see whether it is there, the /media/sda2
[05:22] <UKMatt> dabar, murrr.. really?
[05:22] <Peacer> you need to write the iso file to a disc
[05:22] <Peacer> jrk__ nice :D thanks
[05:22] <kalim86> ok i downloaded the package now wat?h
[05:22] <kalim86> now what?
[05:22] <dabaR> UKMatt: not sure why you ask really.
[05:22] <Peacer> kalim86 burn it to a cd
[05:22] <kalim86> where did it download too
[05:22] <kalim86> ?
[05:22] <UKMatt> dabar, i don't really mean really, i just wish it didnt
[05:22] <Megaqwerty> dabaR: yeah it is!!!!! thanks, it must not be in "places" yet
[05:23] <Miker64> Peacer, ok I have the CD open
[05:23] <xenex> so i can use vmware player for ubuntu and it'll run like normal?
[05:23] <UKMatt> dabar, well what about this, if i upgrade now, will the packages be updated on the 26th?
[05:23] <reynoldd> Should be in your home directory Kalim.
[05:23] <enyawix> got it
[05:23] <dabaR> UKMatt: only if you run the command, the computer does not update itself on its own.
[05:23] <GhostFreeman> when writing a crontab call to a bash script, should it be preceded by a "bash" statement?
[05:23] <enyawix> getting nvidia running is painfull
[05:23] <dougsko> xenex: go to the vmplayer website. it talks all about it. you can run any OS you want with it
[05:24] <enyawix> had to setup by hand
[05:24] <kalim86> what should it be called?
[05:24] <Miker64> Peacer, ok I have the CD open
[05:24] <UKMatt> dabar, what would I have to run then?
[05:24] <dabaR> same thing
[05:24] <rbil> xenex, you can install it in Ubuntu using Synaptic
[05:24] <Peacer> Miker64 you need to boot your pc from the cd
[05:24] <kalim86> i entered this
[05:24] <Peacer> Miker64 do you still want to keep windows?
[05:24] <kalim86> "sudo apt-get install build-essential dh-make gcc-3akeroot linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:24] <xenex> i want to use windows as my main os, then have ubuntu in a window. kind of like remote desktop i guess
[05:24] <teledyn> GhostFreeman: what?
[05:24] <Miker64> Peacer, Whats windows?
[05:24] <NetHaxor> hi guys i need help, i want to download a good firewall to my ubuntu 6.06.1 , where do i download it and how i install it :)
[05:24] <dabaR> UKMatt: go read the ubuntu.com page on the right hand side where they talk about the release candidate
[05:25] <Peacer> Miker64 probably your current operating system
[05:25] <SuperMiguel> NetHaxor: sudo apt-get install firestater
[05:25] <GhostFreeman> I want to have a cronjob execute a bash script every hour, how would I go about doing this?
[05:25] <UKMatt> dabar, oh it's still a RC?
[05:25] <enyawix> NetHaxor get firestarter
[05:25] <jrk__> xenex: vmware is a great way to play with various linux distros on your windows desktop. it'll be a bit slow though but you can try them all easily that way
[05:25] <Miker64> Peacer, whats a operating system... My friend told me to install ubuntu it makes you computer better
[05:25] <teledyn> GhostFreeman: crontab -e    create an entry to point to your script.  man crontab for exact syntax
[05:25] <xenex> i know i want ubuntu but i just want to run them both at the same time.
[05:25] <Peacer> well in that case
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> xenez
[05:26] <NetHaxor> Supermiguel that will download firestarter form the internet??
[05:26] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[05:26] <Peacer> Miker64 how much knowledge do you have about computers?
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> NetHaxor: yes sir
[05:26] <rbil> xenex, you can also pickup a vmplayer appliance that will let you run Linux LiveCDs within a vm
[05:26] <NetHaxor> ok
[05:26] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I'm having a problem during dist-upgrade
[05:26] <teledyn> GhostFreeman: or put the script in /etc/cron.d/cron.hourly
[05:26] <dougsko> GhostFreeman: put this at the top of your crontab and youll never forget how to do it: http://pastebin.ca/211024
[05:26] <NetHaxor> ok
[05:26] <SuperMiguel> xenex: read
[05:26] <Miker64> Peacer: I am not stupid I can use a computer
[05:26] <jrk__> xenex: you can do that by running one of them in a virtual machine (like linux in a vm on windows, or windows in a vm on linux)
[05:26] <jdsbluedevl> this is with edgy
[05:26] <jdsbluedevl> nvm, I'm going to the edgy room
[05:26] <Peacer> Miker64 i know you can... more like how much do you know about them
[05:27] <SuperMiguel> xenex: install vmware on windows
[05:27] <dabaR> Peacer: he has 12 ounces of computer knowledge.
[05:27] <Peacer> if you don't know much i suggest you get your friend to help you
[05:27] <rbil> xenex, unless you need Windows games, you'd have a much more powerful and secure system running Ubuntu as host and Windows in a vm.
[05:27] <Peacer> xD
[05:27] <Miker64> Peacer, Umm Well its a computer... you turn it on and do things... what more to them?
[05:27] <dougsko> xenex: www.vmware.com/products/player <----- go here
[05:27] <Peacer> Miker64 you don't know what an operating system is, you just downloaded one
[05:28] <jrk__> Peacer: sounds like a troll to me :)
[05:28] <Peacer> jrk__ i'm never a troll, i'm always a nice guy :>
[05:28] <Miker64> Peacer, well forget that.  More like I can't find the setup.exe on the CD ROM
[05:28] <xenex> rbil: i know that. the only reason i want to do this is because i am tired of using warez for crap. so i want to use windows as my os for gaming since i play games a lot, and then always have ubuntu open which will act as if it was installed and be able to save everything and run everything properly.
[05:28] <jrk__> Peacer: not you, miker64
[05:28] <dabaR> heh
[05:28] <Miker64> jrk: what about me?
[05:29] <dabaR> read the text
[05:29] <jrk__> Miker64: said it sounds like you are trolling
[05:29] <NetHaxor> i cant get the firestater :S
[05:29] <rbil> xenex, fair enough. If you're a gamer you need to stick with Windows (for now)
[05:29] <Miker64> Whats torlling?
[05:29] <NetHaxor> i got an error message
[05:29] <hutchGuy> !firestarter
[05:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:29] <kintaro0e> hello everyone...how to force using sudo not asking password i'll ready added a NOPASSWD: ALL on the sudoers file on my user..but still ask the any idea guys?
[05:29] <jrk__> Miker64: nm, i mean n00bish :)
[05:29] <Miker64> :(
[05:29] <Peacer> Miker64 turn off your computer, press f8 when you start it up and then press cd-rom, then you will soon get a menu, press the first one and when you then get a new desktop...
[05:30] <Peacer> you press install
[05:30] <Peacer> or doubleclick it
[05:30] <xenex> rbil: i've used ubuntu for a while now. i just don't want to dual boot and restart whenever i feel like playing a game or having to do web design.
[05:30] <jrk__> xenex: you'd save a lot of time for yourself if you just go to vmware.com and start the download
[05:30] <Miker64> Peacer, ok Ill try it... though I think the CD will get lost
[05:30] <Peacer> rofl what's windows
[05:30] <SuperMiguel> xenex: if you are asking something just **** read our answers
[05:31] <rbil> xenex, don't blame you. I don't like dualboot either
[05:31] <mikewinsdesk> is there a dtc IRC room?
[05:31] <hutchGuy> Miker64: atleast you should understand the basics of your computer. Imagine a situation where you can't get help. so I suggest you read some online manuals about Linux.
[05:31] <SuperMiguel> we told you like 1000 times to use vmware
[05:31] <dabaR> !windows
[05:31] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:31] <hutchGuy> !installation
[05:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:31] <xenex> SuperMiguel: i fucking know that. but last time i used vmware the shit was horrible and didn't work properly.
[05:31] <hutchGuy> !installation > Miker64
[05:31] <Mad3Max3> if a program failes to load.. is there a error message attached somewhere in a log file perhaps.. so I can see why it didn't load
[05:31] <dabaR> ubotu: windows is also Ubuntu's evil brother
[05:32] <SuperMiguel> xenex: :A how long before?
[05:32] <NetHaxor> supermiguel i cant install the firestarter firewall i got an error message
[05:32] <SuperMiguel> NetHaxor: what it says
[05:32] <xenex> SuperMiguel: not that long ago. probably a month or two
[05:32] <Em3rald> Does anyone feel like assisting me with enabling visualizations in Amarok?
[05:32] <Mad3Max3> never mind I solved it
[05:32] <AdamMK> how do i make a folder hidden?
[05:33] <jrk__> xenex: guess you're out of luck then if your machine can't handle running them both. how much ram you got? what cpu?
[05:33] <Em3rald> put a period before it in the name
[05:33] <Peacer> I guess miker64 will probably delete his whole windows partition or something
[05:33] <dabaR> AdamMK: name it .folder
[05:33] <Em3rald> like .hidden
[05:33] <NetHaxor> supermiguel
[05:33] <NetHaxor> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[05:33] <NetHaxor> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[05:33] <NetHaxor> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete firestarter
[05:33] <Miker64> It didn't work... the CD went away like I said...
[05:33] <xenex> jrk__: the performance is fine. ubuntu just didn't work properly (files would go corrupt every now and then)
[05:33] <Miker64> let me remake it
[05:33] <NetHaxor> it cant find the package
[05:33] <Miker64> ...
[05:33] <xenex> OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 2.00 GHz, 512KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: SigmaTel Audio Memory: Used: 377/1023MB Uptime: 4d 6h 20m 34s HD: Free: 129.19 GB/149.00 GB Connection: Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 3080.86MB Sent: 233.97MB)
[05:33] <SuperMiguel> lol eso te pasa por hablar espanol
[05:33] <tempted> gr... someone released a .deb package with the new gaim... but for edgy.. not dapper :(
[05:33] <Miker64> ok I have the CD back
[05:33] <hutchGuy> AdamMK: place a .before your folder
[05:33] <adil_> hello
[05:34] <peeps> hello all
[05:34] <NetHaxor> supermiguel hablas en espaol?'
[05:34] <SuperMiguel> se
[05:34] <NetHaxor> ok
[05:34] <jrk__> xenex: you mean individual files in your virtual filesystem or the entire virtual disk?
[05:34] <teledyn> xenex: why not paste in #flood?
[05:34] <NetHaxor> ese mensaje me sale
[05:34] <hutchGuy> !installation > Miker64
[05:34] <adil_> has anyone tried EdgyEft on VMWare 5.5 Workstation ?
[05:34] <dabaR> tempted: so now you're tempted to install edgy?
[05:34] <xenex> teledyn: i didn't paste anything?
[05:34] <tempted> naw... not yet
[05:34] <AdamMK> dabaR: I don't think it's that simple. the folder contains a program, so won't links to the program be broken?
[05:34] <Em3rald> Does anyone feel like assisting me with enabling visualizations in Amarok?  I have libvisual installed, but it says I don't have the plugin.
[05:34] <tempted> dabar: you install it yet?
[05:34] <rbil> xenix, you can't make a silk purse out of pig's ear .. and that's what you got with Windows
[05:34] <Peacer> well i'm going to meditate now
[05:34] <NetHaxor> cual sera el problema supermiguel??
[05:34] <teledyn> xenex: yes you did
[05:34] <Peacer> have fun
[05:34] <dabaR> nope
[05:35] <xenex> teledyn: i posted my system in 1 line. how is that pasting?
[05:35] <tempted> i am gonna wait till it's "released" and finalized
[05:35] <NetHaxor> instale el dvd del ubuntu en oem mode
[05:35] <teledyn> xenex: it was more like 6 lines
[05:35] <xenex> ...
[05:35] <enyawix> firestarter is missing
[05:35] <Em3rald> me too ... how long ya figure for edgy?
[05:35] <enyawix> what gives?
[05:35] <enyawix> i must build it?
[05:35] <hutchGuy> AdamMK: rename your folder to "dot" something. what's the problem ?
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[05:36] <peeps> can anyone recommend a graphical program for monitoring temps including hard drives?
[05:36] <SuperMiguel> y a los dos que digan universe en el medio les quitas el #
[05:36] <kitche> enyawix: what are you trying to do exactly? but firestarter is probably udner System
[05:36] <hutchGuy> peeps: watch acpi -V
[05:36] <NetHaxor> supermiguel reciern instale el ubuntu...primero tengo k actualizar todo para poder instalar ese firewall??
[05:36] <Miker64> Your product is not very user friendly I can't even get it to load... you need to make it more user friendly if you want people to use it
[05:36] <SuperMiguel> yep :)
[05:36] <jrk__> xenex: you could always try buying the MS solution (used to be called virtual PC) but i've been running vmware for a long time with no corruption issues at all.
[05:36] <dabaR> Em3rald: what exact package did you install?
[05:36] <tempted> dammit.. i need an autonick thingy for xchat.
[05:36] <SuperMiguel> sudo apt-get update
[05:36] <NetHaxor> ok
[05:36] <AdamMK> hutchGuy: the folder contains a program so it breaks the shortcuts to it
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> what is the channel for explicit edgy questions?
[05:36] <rbil> peeps,GKrellM
[05:37] <hutchGuy> AdamMK: just cp -R!
[05:37] <enyawix> kitche: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[05:37] <jrk__> Mad3Max3: ubuntu+1
[05:37] <SuperMiguel> Mad3Max3: #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <kitche> Miker64: what are you trying to load exactly
[05:37] <peeps> hutchGuy: it just says "No support for device type thermal"
[05:37] <hutchGuy> AdamMK: wait.!!
[05:37] <kitche> enyawix: firestarter should be installed by default
[05:37] <Miker64> kitche ubuntu
[05:37] <hutchGuy> peeps: install acpi package
[05:37] <hutchGuy> !acpi
[05:37] <dabaR> Miker64: we are just users here, we do not actually do anything to produce ubuntu
[05:37] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[05:38] <hutchGuy> Miker64: get corporate support
[05:38] <hutchGuy> $$$
[05:38] <Miker64> How?
[05:38] <kitche> !support
[05:38] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[05:38] <tempted> daba: hm... soon
[05:38] <Miker64> kitche I can't look at web sites
[05:38] <AdamMK> hutchGuy: what?
[05:38] <peeps> hutchGuy: acpi is already newest version
[05:39] <Em3rald> answered my own question (from #amarok) * kubuntu visualizations = " sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0 libvisual-0.4-plugins " then restart amarok
[05:39] <kitche> Miker64: why are you using the alternate cd or the desktop cd?
[05:39] <Miker64> alternate cd? desktop cd?
[05:39] <hutchGuy> AdamMK: you need to cp -R, recursively.
[05:40] <dabaR> Miker64: desktop to try out ubuntu
[05:40] <Miker64> I am not...
[05:40] <hutchGuy> AdamMk: links won't break because they point to location and not the other way round ?
[05:41] <Miker64> I turn the iso into a CD then when I reboot the cd goes away
[05:41] <hutchGuy> !alternate
[05:41] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:41] <enyawix> firestarter is NOT on my system :(
[05:41] <kitche> Miker64: umm are you burning it correctly?
[05:41] <hutchGuy> !apt
[05:41] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> !firestater
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firestater - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <Miker64> kitche I am not burnning...
[05:41] <Em3rald> Ye know, I kinda don't like the whole Live CD installation thingamadooey ... but then I am a sysadmin, and I do Ubuntu installations for a lot of people ... it's just an extra step I like to avoid.
[05:41] <hutchGuy> !iptables
[05:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> !firestarter
[05:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:41] <kitche> enyawix: well all firestarter is really is a front end to iptables
[05:41] <enyawix> Synaptic serch did not find
[05:41] <AsheD> my internet either timmes out or dies from lack of host every couple hours, anybody know why this might be happening?
[05:42] <Miker64> kitche if someone could tell me how to get setup.exe off the cd
[05:42] <Miker64> I think I can handle the rest
[05:42] <kitche> Miker64: umm the cd is a boot disk
[05:42] <AdamMK> hutchGuy: well the link to program under "Applications" breaks. I already tried it.
[05:42] <kitche> Miekr64: you boot onto the disk
[05:42] <hutchGuy> Miker64: install from desktop cd if you are doing dual booting (boot windows and ubuntu)
[05:43] <BoganKiwi> I installed kubuntu but i want gnome/ubuntu as a session ...how do I add it on to kubuntu?
[05:43] <Miker64> kitche that can't be right because when I reboot the disk I made goes away
[05:43] <dabaR> Miker64: in other words, you put on your boots, and jump on the CD
[05:43] <dabaR> BoganKiwi: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <hutchGuy> !rtfm
[05:43] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:43] <kitche> Miker64: well you just have the iso correct?
[05:44] <Miker64> *looks puzzeled at dabaR*
[05:44] <tempted> camera: hello
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> cardenals won :(
[05:44] <Miker64> kitche yes
[05:44] <jbmigel> what about free speach?
[05:45] <SuperMiguel> any good thing fot servers?
[05:45] <TheMoebius> i can't seem to play videos unless I change the video driver to something like GL, but all programs by default take 100% CPU with default video driver. Whats going on?
[05:45] <wastrel> hello
[05:45] <tempted> dabaR: got my nick completion figured out :) now i can get ur attention
[05:45] <kitche> Miker64: well you have to burn image in a cd recording program
[05:45] <q_a_z_steve> qemu question: how do I set up an -hda to "install" win2k to from an XP host? do I need somesort of blank *.img file?
[05:45] <Miker64> grrr.... how?
[05:46] <O2> hello
[05:46] <hutchGuy> Miker64: read the private msg. !!!!!!!
[05:46] <jbmigel> q_a_z_steve you can probably find a preinstalled image in the zoo
[05:46] <Miker64> hutch I can't opne web sites... the internet makes my computer crash
[05:46] <O2> I have a problem in using xmule: it has no servers to connect
[05:46] <teledyn> i didn't know noob was a bad word.  why is it bad?
[05:47] <crimsun> teledyn: it's disrespectful when used disparagingly.
[05:47] <hutchGuy> Miker64: you got any burner software installed in windoes ?
[05:47] <jbmigel> teledyn cuz you spelt it wrong... it properly spelled nub
[05:47] <crimsun> other than that, it's not "bad" per se
[05:47] <O2> anyone can provide a link to update the servers?
[05:47] <teledyn> O2: check with #DMCA
[05:47] <Miker64> hutch I can make ISOes into CDs...
[05:47] <q_a_z_steve> jbmigel: I'm trying to test an iso I made
[05:47] <O2> teledyn: what's #DMCA
[05:47] <hutchGuy> Miker64: then make it!
[05:48] <Miker64> hutch but when I reboot all the CDs I make go away
[05:48] <teledyn> jbmigel: uh i never saw that spelling.  nub isn't even pronounced the same
[05:48] <jbmigel> q_a_z_steve you shouldnt steal windows it's not worth the blank disc
[05:48] <hutchGuy> Miker64: what do ya mean ?
[05:48] <teledyn> O2: it was a joke.  nevermind
[05:48] <O2> :P
[05:48] <hutchGuy> Miker64: go to BIOS and set to boot from CD firest
[05:48] <Miker64> hutch they don't show up in F8, and windows can't see it afterwards, I have to make the CD again
[05:48] <q_a_z_steve> jbmigel: I'm testing slipstreaming.
[05:49] <hutchGuy> Miker64: can you ftp ?
[05:49] <Miker64> yes
[05:49] <jshriver> greetings
[05:49] <jshriver> is it possible to download the entire ubuntu set and create a local mirror for network installs?
[05:50] <infamouse> hello all, i'm trying to install a few applications via synaptic, however i keep getting prompted to insert the installation CD, is there a way to prevent this, maybe by having ubuntu download the files it needs from the internet?
[05:50] <jshriver> I'm going to be without internet access for a couple months and wanted to set something up so I can still install packages w/o being online
[05:50] <malv> anyone know why firefox scrolls so poorly with AIGLX?
[05:50] <DBO> pango hates you
[05:50] <DBO> malv, dapper or edgy?
[05:50] <strabes> only time firefox scrolls badly is when i have bad card drivers
[05:50] <jbmigel> q_a_z_steve use this to create a 4GB blank image dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.img bs=1M count=4096
[05:50] <malv> edgy
[05:50] <enyawix> no tv apps?
[05:50] <AsheD> anybody know why my Evolution re-downloads the same emails multiple times?
[05:50] <enyawix> :(
[05:50] <malv> I am using the beta Nvidia driver with beryl
[05:51] <|thunder> infamouse; do a "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then remove the # from all the urls. then do "sudo apt-get update".  that should fix it
[05:51] <q_a_z_steve> jbmigel: is that what I have to do?
[05:51] <jbmigel> q_a_z_steve or this... take your pick: qemu-img create disk.img 4G
[05:51] <SuperMiguel> any one good at graphics?
[05:51] <strabes> supermiguel: what type
[05:51] <jshriver> qemu rocks
[05:51] <malv> my desktop framerate is high, but firefox is sluggish when scrolling
[05:52] <jbmigel> jshriver indeed
[05:52] <vladuz976> how is beryl different from xgl ?
[05:52] <jshriver> jbmigel, are you familiar with port binding in qemu? wantd to setup a honeypot
[05:52] <q_a_z_steve> that'll be easier since I have that on windows
[05:52] <Miker64> grrr!  Tell me when you people make your stupid software better and easier to use!
[05:52] <SuperMiguel> strabes: i just need like a logo for Super Miguel, like an S and an M
[05:52] <FreakShow> how do i kill the x server
[05:53] <SuperMiguel> like mixed toghether that look prety good
[05:53] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:53] <jshriver> Miker64: it was easy to use back in 1996...
[05:53] <hutchGuy> Miker64: okay here ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[05:53] <kitche> vladuz976: beryl is a window manager which runs on xgl or aiglx xgl or aiglx is servers
[05:53] <kitche> jshriver he left
[05:53] <kitche> hutchGuy: he left and he had the iso already he doesn't know how to make cds
[05:53] <hutchGuy> kitchie: bloody hell!
[05:53] <jshriver> with all of the easy to use distros now... like Redhat, SuSe and Ubuntu I cant see why ppl complain.
[05:54] <hutchGuy> hutchGuy: these retards make my day!
[05:54] <jshriver> only thing missing is good 3d support out of the box.. and even that isnt bad unless youre a hardcore gamer..
[05:54] <strabes> supermiguel: oh. this is not really the place to ask for that lol
[05:54] <strabes> jshriver - don't forget mp3 and multimedia support - ubuntu doesn't come with proprietary anything
[05:54] <jshriver> hrm? xmms? mplayer?
[05:54] <strabes> jshriver: unfortunately
[05:54] <hutchGuy> !vlc
[05:54] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:55] <jshriver> I dont remember building from source..
[05:55] <jshriver> using vlc right now and mplayer can play anyting I toss at it.
[05:55] <jshriver> xmms for anything audio or mplayer
[05:55] <strabes> jshriver: ubuntu doesn't have mp3 support out of the box... in dapper
[05:55] <strabes> i think
[05:55] <jshriver> hrm multiverse?
[05:55] <strabes> or does it? i dont remember
[05:55] <strabes> yeah i know you can download stuff
[05:55] <hutchGuy> !mp3
[05:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:55] <strabes> but straight up fresh install
[05:55] <jshriver> think vlc and xmms are in there.. not sure about mplayer
[05:55] <jshriver> I usually always build mplayer from scratch to tweak it to my hardware (tv tuning etc)
[05:56] <crimsun> vlc is in universe. mplayer is in multiverse. xmms is in main.
[05:56] <jshriver> Flash can be a pain though for Firefox... but was able to get that working
[05:56] <jshriver> anyone here familiar with Wacom?
[05:56] <bieb> Has anyone gotten a Dell DJ30 to work on Ubuntu?
[05:56] <jshriver> er Watcom/Open Watcom
[05:57] <jshriver> bieb sorry never tried..
[05:57] <jshriver> on similar note, anyone recommend a good linux friendly laptop?
[05:57] <jshriver> I love Toshibas but not sure of the HW support
[05:57] <infamouse> |thunder, thanks, that did it
[05:57] <jshriver> GPU, wifi etc
[05:57] <bieb> all of them jshriver
[05:57] <teledyn> jshriver: my thinkpad is friendly
[05:57] <bieb> IBM
[05:57] <jshriver> hrm will look into those
[05:58] <teledyn> jshriver: plus its built better than most other brands, if not all
[05:58] <jshriver> my friend has had 2 Sony Viaos and they workd well, just out of my price range..
[05:58] <NickGarvey> how would I know if an nvidia card is compatible with linux?
[05:58] <bieb> I have a Thinkpad T30 and an HP Pavilion ze5170
[05:58] <jshriver> NickaNicka, it is :)
[05:58] <teledyn> exploding batteries, overheating, etc.
[05:58] <jshriver> get the NVidia binary drivers it's magic heh
[05:58] <bieb> the HP had some artifacting graphics issue.. the IBM is great
[05:58] <NickGarvey> jshriver: well I doubt they /all/ works
[05:59] <bieb> and I have had RH, FC, SUSE, Kubuntu and Ubuntu on the IBM
[05:59] <THX-1138> does anyone think lenovo
[05:59] <bieb> IBM=Lenovo
[05:59] <jshriver> I'd like to find a laptop that will let me downclock it to save power.. I really only need about 300-500mhz in speed mostly dev work and browing.. would rather work at 300-500mhz and have a 12hr battery than 3ghz and 2hrs
[05:59] <teledyn> NickGarvey: there's the opensource nv driver, or the closed-source nvidia one
[05:59] <teledyn> NickGarvey: read about supported cards of nv driver at xorg website
[05:59] <Flannel> jshriver: #ubuntu-offtopic, or #hardware or lots of other places, but not here
[06:00] <jshriver> I might be wrong, but I believe it encompases all NV cards from Geforce 2 up
[06:00] <jshriver> sorry Flannel
[06:00] <teledyn> NickGarvey: right now there's a nasty exploit for the nvidia driver
[06:00] <sproingie> teledyn: it's fixed in the beta driver
[06:01] <kitche> teledyn: also it is already fixed if you download the fix for it
[06:01] <jshriver> teledyn, saw that on /. is it fixed
[06:01] <acersales> hi how can i see the details about a package through apt-get ?
[06:01] <teledyn> sproingie: yeah, but i'd strongly recommend against installing anything other than the official ubuntu driver
[06:01] <jshriver> nvm
[06:02] <jshriver> apt-cache show pgkname
[06:02] <Flannel> acersales: apt-cache showpkg [stuff]  or just apt-cache show [stuff] , depending on what info
[06:02] <jshriver> dpkg -L pkgname
[06:02] <teledyn> sproingie: the ubuntu one is compiled/tested to work with the exact version of xorg in ubuntu
[06:02] <sproingie> teledyn: sadly i have an ATI
[06:02] <kitche> jshriver: they made a new driver with the fix in it and yet it doesn't effect Ubuntu users in reality unless they open up their X systems
[06:02] <sproingie> teledyn: and i definitely stick with the official version
[06:02] <teledyn> sproingie: sadly i have an nvidia.  wish i had an ati or anything else
[06:03] <sproingie> teledyn: gack, ati sucks.  if i even so much as switch consoles, the display corrupts until i reboot
[06:03] <jshriver> have heard ATI can be painful to get working if at all
[06:03] <sproingie> worked out of the box for me
[06:03] <teledyn> sproingie: hmm.  i know they used to be really good, but yeah i've heard in the past few years they've begun to suck
[06:03] <acersales> Flannel, i am looking for the functionality of the package
[06:04] <sproingie> well insofar as out of the box meant installing from synaptic and changing a couple lines in xorg.conf
[06:04] <Flannel> acersales: you want show then
[06:04] <sproingie> i have no other problems with the stability or performance, but i don't game on linux
[06:05] <sproingie> it's pretty smooth with blender
[06:05] <Backu> I need some help with Wine on X86_64 if anyone has had any luck with it..
[06:06] <acersales> Flannel, one more question, i am trying to secure my ubuntu box like remove telnet block port how to go with it ?
[06:07] <acersales> Flannel, n e idea about it ?
[06:08] <mnepton> acersales: telenet is not installed
[06:08] <sproingie> acersales: telnetd isn't installed on ubuntu by default
[06:08] <mnepton> -e
[06:09] <sproingie> acersales: out of the box, ubuntu has no open ports
[06:09] <acersales> sproingie, mnepton i am facing a problem when i do nmap on my ubuntu it gives very less security such as 23% but in my fedora or windows is 99% :(
[06:09] <dody> 
[06:10] <luckyone> Any StarCraft players in here?
[06:10] <mnepton> acersales: look through you running processes and find any likely culprits
[06:11] <mnepton> Dr_willis: figure that out and you, too can work for Gartner
[06:11] <acersales> mnepton, anyway to check it out ?
[06:11] <sproingie> acersales: you've installed something that opens ports then
[06:11] <luckyone> mnepton: you work for Gartner?
[06:11] <acersales> mnepton, i mean any command to check it out ?
[06:11] <mnepton> luckyone: no
[06:11] <Dr_willis> who the heck is Gartner?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <luckyone> Consulting group
[06:11] <acersales> sproingie, nope sure i havent if there is nothing installed on it
[06:12] <luckyone> did they have something to say about security of linux?
[06:12] <sproingie> acersales: keep in mind that there are open ports on localhost, so nmap it from the outside for a more realistic picture
[06:12] <luckyone> or ubuntu specifically?
[06:12] <mnepton> luckyone: i don't pay attention to analysts like that. too confusing.
[06:12] <luckyone> hah
[06:13] <sproingie> luckyone: gartner issues official sounding opinions about platforms the way a weathervane gives opinions about the wind
[06:13] <mnepton> luckyone: here's an example of me being confused - http://birdhouse.org/blog/2006/10/19/mac-marketshare-increasing/#comments
[06:13] <acersales> sproingie, how to block services or end them if there is any running ? and how to check
[06:13] <st3v3dnd> I ran ldd -r on a library, and got some undefined symbol messages. how can I figure out where it's expecting to find those files, and is it solvable by just installing whatever library has the missing symbols?
[06:13] <sproingie> luckyone: CIO's still pay them thousands of $$$ a year to say "XYZ is bad, except when it's good", then "XYZ is good, except when it's bad" six months later
[06:13] <ClayG> has anyone here seen a laptop mount for the cars?
[06:13] <luckyone> hah
[06:13] <sproingie> my favorite is their Magic Quadrant
[06:14] <luckyone> I think it is kinda cool how they quantify things
[06:14] <AdamMK> Login Photo doesn't do anything???
[06:14] <whyso> odd, eclipse doesnt boot, tells me to view the log in a nonexistant folder, and even rinstalling doesnt help, someone got a tip?
[06:14] <bieb> Clay.. what kind you looking for?
[06:14] <ClayG> like you see in the cop cars
[06:14] <ClayG> something that will hold it in the middle, so i can use it while stopped or whatever
[06:14] <luckyone> they have pretty positive things to say about open source, especially in the server and virtualization markets
[06:14] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  steal one from a cop car. :)
[06:14] <sproingie> the magic quadrant is a decent little scorecard system but their opinion papers are just reams of vapidity
[06:14] <luckyone> not so much for the desktop, but ubuntu is changing that
[06:14] <ClayG> i think it would be cool that have it, also i could use it as a gps and "dvd plaer"
[06:14] <dabaR> f the police!
[06:14] <ClayG> nah
[06:14] <bieb> There used to be a company here in Georgia that made them.. called Best Desk I think
[06:15] <mnepton> ClayG: i'm not answering that simply because i don't want to share the road with people guilding in WoW
[06:15] <whyso> someone plz help?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  heh - not sure that may be legal. :)
[06:15] <AdamMK> does Login Photo do anything?
[06:15] <ClayG> bieb: on ebay they have many but i want quality, wondering if anyone knows first hand
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ClayG,  many states have laws against watching porn while driving.
[06:15] <zmo> hi, I got a problem watching videos with mplayer, the screen gets always blank after about 15min of inactivity... though I deactivated screensaver/power management and even xset dpms is off
[06:15] <ClayG> Dr_willis: against anything "distracting" not just porn
[06:15] <luckyone> also - tech question... is there no specific 686 kernel anymore? It says the generic kernel replaces it?
[06:15] <bieb> Clay.. Best Desk.. used to do the mounts for the Georgia Police
[06:16] <ClayG> even though ubuntu is an african american linux distro doesn't mean im going to be riding around with a porn playing and 4 guys cramped in the car hanging out the windows
[06:16] <ClayG> that is very nice....
[06:16] <zmo> anyone knows about that, or could give me pointers ?
[06:16] <dabaR> ClayG: african american linux distro?
[06:16] <mnepton> Ubuntu is an African-American distro?
[06:16] <ClayG> I will look into Best Desk, if that is what the police use
[06:16] <mnepton> news to me.
[06:16] <ClayG> i thought it was
[06:16] <ClayG> maybe that's gentoo
[06:16] <luckyone> ClayG: what the hell are you talking about?
[06:16] <tritium> ClayG: not cool, dude.  Watch your comments.
[06:16] <ClayG> one of them
[06:16] <ClayG> ok, im thinking of something else
[06:17] <dabaR> tritium: I think he got it wrong somehow, cause sabdfl is south african.
[06:17] <Backu> Luckyone: Thanks for the tip, it worked.. kinda.. can't get wine to start
[06:17] <ClayG> but I'll check into best desk, if thats what the cops use it should be pretty sturdy
[06:17] <tritium> dabaR: worse, it was a stereotype
[06:17] <luckyone> Backu: did you find kills how to?
[06:17] <luckyone> Backu: make sure you have ia32 libs and ia32-headers I think
[06:17] <whyso> anyone know how i could try fixing eclipse?
[06:18] <Backu> thought I did.. guess not
[06:18] <ClayG> what about gps for the lappy? what is a good one? and does ubuntu have any good "mapping" (if that is what it's called) software that will show me on the map and all the bells and whistles?
[06:18] <mnepton> tritium: we could fork and make BubbaLinux. with gun rack, six pack, and sister-wife. >:)
[06:18] <bieb> Clay.. ask one of your local police who the Mfg is, it may have a sticker on it
[06:18] <dabaR> whyso: ya, man, get a new moon
[06:18] <luckyone> whyso: don't use the debian version, just download the tarball and untar
[06:18] <GigaClon> are there any good program for playing bridge hands in linux
[06:18] <ClayG> bieb: beleive it or not that is a BRILLANT idea
[06:18] <ClayG> i will do that
[06:18] <tritium> mnepton: please don't go there
[06:18] <whyso> luckyone: thanks!
[06:19] <mnepton> tritium: too late. help me ...
[06:19] <bieb> mnepton.. you have to spell it .. buhbuhlinux
[06:19] <majd> the RC1 of edgy eft is already out? wtf is the dev team on speed?
[06:19] <Backu> actually, guess I did
[06:19] <ClayG> problem with having a laptop mounted in your car is you could get tempted to get the verizon wifi card, or whatever the "real" name is
[06:19] <luckyone> majd, every six months my friend
[06:19] <luckyone> majd: and Dapper was delayed about a month
[06:19] <majd> isn't that nuts?
[06:20] <tritium> keep in mind that 6.06 was delayed a bit
[06:20] <mnepton> majd: actually, the QA person is alseep in a dark office next to me. we're in crunch mode.
[06:20] <tritium> majd: no, it's great
[06:20] <majd> it's not enough time to get sick of it
[06:20] <majd> lol
[06:20] <luckyone> majd: they work hard to make things build together properly, they get a lot of the code from the debian repos though
[06:21] <tritium> luckyone: it's all based on debian
[06:21] <majd> nniiissssssssssseeee
[06:21] <luckyone> tritium: of course, but there are debs that are ubuntu specific that aren't in the actual debian repos
[06:21] <meheren> i ran the following command: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade and aptitude unininstalled everything that i had ever manually installed what do i do?
[06:22] <luckyone> tritium: but anything that makes it into the latest debian-stable branch trickles down into our stream too
[06:22] <krazykit> meheren: reinstall the stuff and don't blindly use aptitude options?
[06:23] <krazykit> though, meheren, there must have been some issue.  aptitude only uninstalls stuff marked as automatic if they're not needed anymore, and afaik, only aptitude and synaptic mark those.
[06:23] <meheren> krazykit, but all i told it to do was update the pesporsities and then upgrade the system (if their wewe any possible updates)
[06:24] <meheren> i haven't touched my system any any other way....???
[06:24] <poopybutt> anybody have experience with a dual monitor setup with an ati radeon card?
[06:24] <GigaClon> are there any good program for playing bridge hands in linux
[06:24] <poopybutt> i want a dual monitor with the secondary to the left of my primary
[06:24] <tritium> poopybutt: yes
[06:24] <luckyone> krazykit: I think you can also do apt-get autoremove or something
[06:24] <tritium> poopybutt: which driver are you using?
[06:24] <dabaR> tritium: language...;p
[06:24] <Dheeraj_ku> pls help me regarding this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.10/+bug/40855
[06:24] <poopybutt> tritium: ive been looking at my xorg.conf but im confused
[06:24] <poopybutt> tritium: fglrx
[06:24] <tritium> dabaR: ;)
[06:25] <krazykit> meheren: right, but aptitude AUTOMATICALLY uninstalls packages marked as Automatically installed that no longer have reverse dependencies
[06:25] <Dheeraj_ku> wvdial connection dies in 1 minute
[06:25] <tritium> poopybutt: oh, I have a nice working xorg.conf for using the "ati" driver.  Sorry.
[06:25] <Dheeraj_ku> and this problem is only on ubuntu
[06:25] <tritium> poopybutt: how about a nick change?
[06:25] <luckyone> tritium: I like you!
[06:25] <poopybutt> is it not proper enough?
[06:25] <crimsun> everyone likes tritium!
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Heh.. i normally call my dog poopybutt  :)
[06:26] <der0b> krazykit: not to take you away from meheren, is it better to just use aptitude when installing via the CLI?
[06:26] <tritium> crimsun: :)
[06:26] <meheren> krazkit... hmm but it uninstalled a bunch of files that i remember installing by hand... (such as supertux)
[06:26] <rbil> poopybutt, do u have dual monitors working now? just want to reverse the order?
[06:26] <poopybutt> rbil: its stuck in clone mode
[06:26] <tritium> thanks, dabaR
[06:26] <krazykit> meheren: which might be a bug in aptitude or something.  i only use aptitude as a GUI
[06:26] <rbil> poopybutt, got xinerama installed?
[06:26] <meheren> you can do that?
[06:26] <luckyone> poopybutt: you have to define two desktops in Xorg.conf
[06:26] <Dheeraj_ku> help wvdial rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:26] <Dheeraj_ku> help wvdial rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:26] <Dheeraj_ku> help wvdial rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:26] <meheren> how?
[06:26] <tritium> poopybutt: anyway, the manpage for "radeon" gave me some good options for two-monitor mode
[06:26] <wasabi_> hey
[06:26] <krazykit> der0b: i think so.  i like aptitude's gui over synaptic
[06:26] <poopybutt> rbil: and the resolution on secondary is smaller so the screen shifts.  i dont want xinerama because i lose 3d accel
[06:27] <krazykit> Dheeraj_ku: that's a great way to get banned.
[06:27] <wasabi_> i'm getting a weird error after install beryl. my shutdown button doesn't work
[06:27] <wasabi_> it just freezes the screen
[06:27] <Dheeraj_ku> connection is dropping with wvdial on ubuntu pls help
[06:27] <poopybutt> tritium: i looked there too.  i saw the mergefb option and the screen layout option.  i tried addig those two lines with the arguments i wanted but it didnt change anything
[06:28] <meheren> how can one use aptitude as a gui..?
[06:28] <tritium> poopybutt: they work with the "ati" driver, not fglrx
[06:28] <krazykit> meheren: sudo aptitude
[06:28] <tritium> happy birthday, dabaR
[06:28] <Dheeraj_ku> no sollution for wvdial?
[06:28] <meheren> err... heh i don't call that a gui... although technically speaking it is one
[06:28] <wasabi_> anyone?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Dheeraj_ku,  enable verbose logging and check the logs.
[06:28] <tritium> poopybutt: this page might be helpful to you: http://linux.spiney.org/debian_gnu_linux_on_an_ibm_thinkpad_t43p_graphics_card_ati_fglrx
[06:28] <Dheeraj_ku> ubuntu has problem with ppp
[06:29] <meheren> i call a gui like synaptic....
[06:29] <tritium> poopybutt: it's got dualhead configs for both ati and fglrx
[06:29] <krazykit> meheren: gtk or ncurses, it's still a gui
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Dheeraj_ku,  also the ubuntu wiki/forums perhaps - see if others have had similer problems
[06:29] <poopybutt> tritium: ok thanks.  ill try playing around
[06:29] <pppoe_dude> hi. whats the print command in edgy the other programs can use?
[06:29] <Dheeraj_ku> yeah i found lots of such thread on ubuntu
[06:29] <tritium> pppoe_dude: command line?  lp
[06:30] <meheren> krazykit, true but for the mordern day and age... it would be considered an "old school" gui
[06:30] <Dheeraj_ku> but i didn't found any sollution there
[06:30] <krazykit> meheren: please.  still a gui, "old school" or not.  regardless, i think aptitude's interface is far superiour to slow synaptics'
[06:30] <meheren> ho hum this is annoying...
[06:30] <Dheeraj_ku> as those queries were never answered
[06:31] <Backu> Can anyone help me with this stupid wine startup problem?
[06:31] <Dheeraj_ku> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269876&highlight=wvdial unanswered 1
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> hmm
[06:31] <meheren> krazykit, sorry, i have a macbook... :p so i don't really notices speed differences
[06:31] <scott> is aptitude anything like dselect?
[06:31] <meheren> *notice
[06:31] <pppoe_dude> tritium, thanks
[06:31] <NetHaxor> supermiguel ya le hice el update a mi ubuntu pero aun no puedo instalar el firestarter
[06:31] <NetHaxor> k hago?
[06:31] <meheren> dunno never used dselect
[06:31] <NetHaxor> mhace rato me dijiste algo ddel source
[06:32] <Dheeraj_ku> and that bug is already listed on launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.10/+bug/40855
[06:32] <krazykit> meheren: i have a p4 desktop.  i SHOULDN'T notice a difference, but i do.  i guess it's just my preference for the keyboard.
[06:32] <NetHaxor> supermigul me puedes auydar??
[06:32] <krazykit> meheren: and i'm jealous.  i want a macbook >:(
[06:32] <scott> krazykit: don't be, they suck
[06:32] <NetHaxor> supermiguel me puedes ayudar?
[06:33] <meheren> krazykit... :p one is never satisfied... i want a macpro
[06:33] <krazykit> scott: well, not first gen of course.  i'd never buy first gen apple
[06:33] <Dheeraj_ku> any sollution? as this problem is occuring only on ubuntu
[06:33] <poopybutt> what is the difference between the ati drive and fglrx?
[06:34] <poopybutt> like which one is more advanced or newer
[06:34] <meheren> what language is nethaxer speaking...?
[06:34] <tritium> poopybutt: ati is open-source, fglrx is proprietary
[06:34] <tritium> !es
[06:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:34] <meheren> *NetHaxor
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> tritium, any ideas what my device location would be to pass to lp or lpr? (/dev/usblp0 doesnt show up anymore)
[06:34] <tritium> pppoe_dude: was your printer turned off when you booted?  It needs to be on when the initscript is run.
[06:34] <meheren> is that really spanish... does'nt look like it
[06:34] <pppoe_dude> oh i c.
[06:34] <Dheeraj_ku> no sollution?
[06:34] <tritium> meheren: yes
[06:34] <meheren> but what do i know?
[06:35] <pppoe_dude> tritium, would restarting hotplug or somethn do anything?
[06:35] <krazykit> hotplug doesn't take care of printers now?
[06:35] <Faithful> I have got amavis / spamassassin running... when i test directly with sa i get a score of 14 but when I send the same via amavis I get score of 3... any ideas???
[06:35] <tritium> pppoe_dude: just "sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart" after turning on the printer again, and see if that works
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> tritium, nope
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> maybe lp is deprecated? i used to be able to use it on dapper...
[06:36] <Dheeraj_ku> i'll better install fedora6 i think that is the only sollution :( grrrrrrrrrrr
[06:37] <MotorCitymadMan> helo:error using k3b:Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root. ISO burned fine. this can be ignored or does this need action ?
[06:37] <mikewinsdesk> Im running ubuntu 6.06 however my internet on it does not appear to be able to receive any message when i type ping google.com it displays ping: unknown host google.com, however it does seem to be running my website http://hosttosucceed.com just fine so im not sure what the problem is also using apt-get update returns errors about not being able to fetch the sources, here are all my configuration files you might need http://pasteb
[06:37] <tritium> pppoe_dude: no, lp is not deprecated
[06:38] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk repaste the URL and everything after it
[06:38] <wastrel> mikewinsdesk:  your /etc/resolv.conf needs valid internet nameservers in it.
[06:38] <tritium> Dheeraj_ku: which version are you running?
[06:38] <meheren> is there a pretend command for synaptic?
[06:39] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: can you ping by IP addresses?
[06:39] <mikewinsdesk> wastrel, what should i put in there
[06:39] <tritium> meheren: huh?
[06:39] <wastrel> your nameserver ip addresses.
[06:39] <dabaR> haha
[06:39] <tritium> mikewinsdesk: DNS server addresses from your ISP.  They should be provided by the DHCP server, actually.  You shouldn't have to set them manually.
[06:39] <tritium> mikewinsdesk: do you have a router?
[06:39] <wastrel> everyone with their dhcp nowadays
[06:39] <mikewinsdesk> yes
[06:40] <Dheeraj_ku> 6.06LTS
[06:40] <tritium> mikewinsdesk: what kind?
[06:40] <meheren> like is their a command that you give give aptitude that makes the program tell you what it would do if you actually did run the command?
[06:40] <mikewinsdesk> linksys
[06:40] <mikewinsdesk> it was working before just fine
[06:40] <tritium> mikewinsdesk: before what?
[06:40] <Dheeraj_ku> ON X86 SYSTEM
[06:40] <dabaR> meheren: -d is download the files only, don't install
[06:41] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: can you ping by IP addresses?
[06:41] <tritium> meheren: -s is to simulate
[06:41] <mikewinsdesk> i was following this guide http://dtcsupport.gplhost.com/pmwiki/PmWiki/UbuntuSetup and i just edited the /etc/init.d/networking file and then when i tryed apt-get update it dint work
[06:41] <meheren> ok thx
[06:41] <tritium> mikewinsdesk: why did you edit that file?  What were you trying to do?
[06:42] <dabaR> it says to make the iface manual in that page
[06:42] <Dheeraj_ku> kpppd, wvdial i tried both the dialer and both get disconnect with in 1-2minute
[06:42] <mikewinsdesk> i was trying to turn off IPv6
[06:42] <Dheeraj_ku> but both works fine on fedora
[06:43] <mikewinsdesk> dabaR, no i dont think i can ping ip addresses PING 65.126.161.171 (65.126.161.171) 56(84) bytes of d
[06:43] <mikewinsdesk> whoops
[06:43] <tritium> Dheeraj_ku: if there's an open bug filed, I think you found the problem
[06:43] <mikewinsdesk> it says 100% packet loss
[06:43] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: then it is likely not the dns servers, I think.
[06:43] <enyawix> ok i had to build firestarter
[06:43] <Dheeraj_ku> and i think i am not the 1 every 1 who use wvdial have same issue
[06:44] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk repaste the pastebin URL and everything after it, it was cut off in the first time you asked the question
[06:44] <friederich09>  i'm using a debian-based distro and i'd wonder if is there any way to get the benefits from the suspend2 through any .deb, or through any 'apt-get install lib_or_package'?
[06:44] <mikewinsdesk> http://pastebin.ca/211105 heres the pastbin
[06:44] <tritium> friederich09: which distro?
[06:44] <mikewinsdesk> there was nothing after that
[06:44] <friederich09> kurumin6.1
[06:44] <Dheeraj_ku> ubuntu is a gr8 os but this bug makes it worst :(
[06:44] <friederich09> do you know it?
[06:44] <tritium> friederich09: what do you think this is?  #kurumin?  ;)
[06:45] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: why don't you have some of the lines shown in that tutorial?
[06:45] <tritium> friederich09: no, it's in the kernel, and can't be installed in a .deb
[06:46] <friederich09> damn.
[06:46] <mikewinsdesk> dabaR, what do you mean ?
[06:46] <friederich09> do you know it, tritium, the suspend2!?
[06:46] <tritium> friederich09: I know of it, yes.
[06:47] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: nm, I don't know how to fix it
[06:47] <friederich09> and do you use it? is it simple to get, and it works fine, so far?
[06:47] <Mad3Max3> Strange stuff here.. can't copy files to dir that I want
[06:47] <fatsheep> I've got a quick q...  Is Ubuntu a good base for compiling linux from scratch (www.linuxfromscratch.org)?
[06:47] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: is your router at that address?
[06:47] <tritium> friederich09: no, I use stock ubuntu kernels, and suspend works fine for me
[06:48] <dabaR> 1.1
[06:48] <mikewinsdesk> dabaR, yes 192.168.1.1
[06:48] <jim__> fatsheep: no
[06:48] <Mad3Max3> Do I always have to do a Sudo to copy and stuff?
[06:48] <mikewinsdesk> dabaR, nevermind i fixed it
[06:48] <sproingie> fatsheep: pretty much anything can be used to compile LFS
[06:49] <mikewinsdesk> dabaR, /etc/hosts had 192.168.1.103 in it and it was causing all of these problems
[06:49] <fatsheep> well I've heard I might have problems with Ubuntu's optimizations and such
[06:49] <mikewinsdesk> or mabey it was because i restarted /init.d/network
[06:49] <mikewinsdesk> who knows
[06:49] <friederich09> tritium: the stock comes together with your ubuntu version?
[06:49] <sproingie> fatsheep: you're basically cross-compiling, i don't see how ubuntu's kernel or libc would really affect it
[06:49] <jim__> fatsheep: stock ubuntu doesnt come with any compiler GCC ... anything you need to build with
[06:49] <whyso> hmmm my CD/DVD rom wont open :(
[06:50] <tritium> friederich09: not sure what you mean.  I run the kernels that come with ubuntu with no modifications.
[06:50] <fatsheep> I don't remember but I do have GCC and all the other requirments for LFS installed
[06:50] <sproingie> fatsheep: hell you could probably compile LFS with cygwin if you were crazy enough
[06:50] <dabaR> mikewinsdesk: good work...o_O
[06:50] <whyso> ah thanks
[06:50] <tempted> j/k :)
[06:50] <fatsheep> ;)
[06:50] <tritium> jim__, fatsheep:  build-essential provides all that is needed
[06:50] <Syco54645> can anyone confirm the rumours that the new flash player finally plays flash in sync??
[06:50] <friederich09> mmm.. that's what i wondered.
[06:50] <fatsheep> ok
[06:50] <tempted> syco: yes
[06:50] <Syco54645> tempted: sweet jesus!  i need to upgrade!!!!
[06:51] <Syco54645> i have been waiting so long for this day
[06:51] <tempted> Syco54645: yes you do..  make sure you install all the previous versions...
[06:51] <tempted> i mean uninstall
[06:51] <whyso> netbus isnt found in synaptic.... :\
[06:51] <Syco54645> tempted: i shall... or maybe i will just wait for back ports, midterms are here now
[06:52] <tempted> hahaha whyso.. it was a joke... netbus is an old proggie that was a backdoor... let you take over someone's computer
[06:52] <tempted> open cd drives.. move the mouse around..
[06:53] <whyso> lol :)
[06:53] <jim__> OK, for the question I came looking for an answer to
[06:54] <jim__> anyone know if/when support for nforce 590 might get done?
[06:54] <whyso> so, umm have any real ideas how to get em to work :)?
[06:54] <Syco54645> whyso: what are you trying to do?
[06:55] <mikeymike-linux> why would mplayer open and then close immediately? is there any way i can figure out why
[06:55] <SuperMiguel> besides  ftp, http, shh, and media what should i put on my server?
[06:55] <wastrel> mikeymike-linux:  run it from the command line and look at the errors printed to the terminal
[06:55] <mikeymike-linux> okay
[06:56] <dabaR> SuperMiguel: ics
[06:56] <aimeri> nite ppl
[06:56] <SuperMiguel> ics??
[06:56] <dabaR> SuperMiguel: if you have a switch hub
[06:56] <aimeri> maybe you guys can help me
[06:57] <dabaR> SuperMiguel: or any other networking equipment
[06:57] <SuperMiguel> router xD
[06:57] <aimeri> I having a gnome-session reset after runing some programs like firefox or the theme manager
[06:57] <dabaR> SuperMiguel: wireless on it?
[06:57] <Madpilot> Cool, I figured out a surefire way to freeze Nautilus... gah.
[06:57] <mikeymike-linux> can anyone tell me what this means Failed to open /dev/rtc: Device or resource busy (it should be readable by the user.)
[06:57] <wastrel> yay
[06:57] <dabaR> Madpilot: what is it?
[06:57] <aimeri> i using edgy and gnome 2.16
[06:58] <Madpilot> dabaR, make a mistake setting up an sftp/ssh link, then click on the screwed up link - even right-clicking on it (to delete it) will freeze Nautilus...
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> Setting up LIRC support...
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> mplayer: could not connect to socket
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> mplayer: No such file or directory
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> Failed to open LIRC support.
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> whats going on?
[06:58] <Ademan> i think I may have inadvertantly enabled the root account during my upgrade to edgy, when it asked for a root password i gave it one...  How can i disable root?
[06:58] <Madpilot> mikeymike-linux, next time, use a pastebin, please...
[06:58] <mikeymike-linux> sorry
[06:59] <whyso> Syco54645: it wont mount my CD or DVD rom drives
[06:59] <SuperMiguel> dabaR: yep
[06:59] <wastrel> Ademan:  sudo passwd -d root
[06:59] <eternalswd> how do I change the resolution on tv out?  it's set up as a clone.
[06:59] <mikeymike-linux> if anyone knows what that means say my name when you reply thank you for your time
[07:00] <Mad3Max3> I have a problem with copying files. and access to folders..
[07:00] <dabaR> SuperMiguel: id still have the pc hooked up to the modem probably
[07:00] <SuperMiguel> um?
[07:00] <Mad3Max3> I can understand that some places needs root clearence. but not everywhere
[07:01] <Syco54645> whyso: you have tried to mount them by hand with the mount command using the actual device names?  example would be /dev/hdd for a dvd rom drive instead of what ever other name udev would give it
[07:01] <Mad3Max3> thats just dumb and makes stuff harder to do..
[07:01] <Ademan> wastrel: that'll disable it for sure?
[07:01] <wastrel> Ademan:  that deletes the root password
[07:01] <tempted> who knows anything about nameserverS?
[07:02] <whyso> Syco54645: thanks ill try that
[07:02] <wastrel> i know some things about nameservers
[07:02] <Ademan> wastrel: so no one can login as root? or someone can login as root with no password? lol
[07:02] <SuperMiguel> besides  ftp, http, shh, and media what should i put on my server?
[07:02] <Mad3Max3> is a file/folder that lies at. "/home/htpc/.azureus/" protected with sudo?
[07:02] <wastrel> so that no one can login as root
[07:02] <whyso> mount: can't find /dev/hdd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:03] <Ademan> thanks wastrel
[07:03] <Syco54645> whyso: i cant be sure of what the real device is called, but my hd is /dev/hda /dev/hde and my cdroms are /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd
[07:03] <Mad3Max3> I also have a folder in "/opt/azureus" that also denies my access to copy
[07:03] <tempted> wastrel: what's the deal with them... i have a domain... gave up on my hosting... created a server...  one ip, static... what do i do about nameservers... cuz don't i need two?
[07:03] <aimeri> any ideia on how to proceed to stop my gnome-session from receiving signal 15 and reseting? that does not happens with kde...
[07:03] <tempted> or should i just forward my domain to my ip?
[07:04] <tempted> using a forwardign service?
[07:04] <Ademan> hey, uh when i turn on my computer, X doesnt start, it just dumps me to a virtual terminal, i can start Xorg fine with "startx" but it should give me the gdm login instead of this...
[07:04] <overrider> is there a documents that describes how to get ubuntu wifi to authenticate with a wpa key?
[07:04] <Daviey> tempted, have your domain guys said they can do this.  Most wont
[07:04] <whyso> Syco54645: the disks manager isnt loading ... :(
[07:04] <Ademan> !wpa
[07:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:04] <unstable> Is Xubuntu unofficial?
[07:04] <Syco54645> whyso: what do you mean?
[07:04] <tempted> well.. they will provide the nameservers...
[07:05] <tempted> and forward it to my ip.
[07:05] <Ademan> unstable: no... its maintained by the same people iirc
[07:05] <Ademan> things like fluxbuntu though arent
[07:05] <whyso> Syco54645: it opens up, but just keeps searching forever, without finding disks
[07:05] <unstable> Ademan: What do you mean "same people" xfce devs maintain xubuntu?
[07:05] <tempted> nameserver for a lil $...
[07:05] <sproingie> unstable: same people as ubuntu
[07:05] <Ademan> unstable: no, ubuntu people (ie canonical) maintain xubuntu
[07:05] <sproingie> unstable: the official ubuntus are ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu
[07:06] <unstable> Why isn't it listed on the download page
[07:06] <unstable> edubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu are listed.
[07:06] <Syco54645> whyso: have another computer to try the disc in?
[07:06] <Ademan> unstable: link?
[07:06] <unstable> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseCandidateAnnouncement
[07:06] <whyso> the disk is ok,  tried many disks that i know are good
[07:07] <whyso> and the disks manager doesnt show anything at all :(
[07:07] <Ademan> unstable: well thats for edgy, and thats on the wiki, so that page could just have borked info
[07:07] <whyso> sproingie: its ubuntu for students
[07:08] <jbmigel> students of what
[07:08] <whyso> sproingie: it has more educational stuff by default
[07:08] <acehigh> sup everyone
[07:08] <sproingie> whyso: yah i just never figured how that rated a different distribution
[07:08] <sproingie> whyso: it just seems to have extra packages
[07:09] <tritium> sproingie: same with xubuntu and kubuntu.  Simply different packages.
[07:09] <whyso> guess its to make easy to install on school comps
[07:09] <sproingie> tritium: different desktops by default, not solely additive.  i guess it's more a channel distribution thing
[07:09] <jake__> overrider, check out this website: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[07:10] <El> !paste
[07:10] <unstable> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/6.10/ (works)
[07:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:10] <unstable> http://releases.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/6.10/ (does not work)
[07:10] <aimeri> no one here can help me with my gnome-session problem??? I tryed the #gnome on the irc.gnome.com but no one there answer... never... for nothing...
[07:10] <tritium> sproingie: point taken
[07:10] <whyso> why wont the disks manager find anything?
[07:10] <El> Does anyone know why Im getting this error while trying to install ntfs-3g? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27437/
[07:11] <poopybutt> apt-get update?
[07:11] <El> iv done update, and upgrade
[07:11] <slipttees_> download Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn ?
[07:11] <jim__> done dist-upgrade?
[07:12] <tritium> slipttees_: doesn't exist yet
[07:12] <El> what is dist-update
[07:12] <El> ?
[07:12] <tritium> El: you mean dist-upgrade.
[07:12] <jim__> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:12] <rcarr> I think you mean dist-upgrade El
[07:12] <slipttees_> :O
[07:12] <rcarr> and it upgrades ALL packages available for upgrade
[07:12] <rcarr> not specifically pinned
[07:12] <acehigh> brb
[07:12] <El> il try that
[07:12] <rcarr> as in marked to not upgrade because of dependency problems or something along those lines
[07:12] <poopybutt> try apt-get install -f
[07:13] <poopybutt> see what it says
[07:13] <slipttees_> tritium, ?
[07:13] <eternalswd> bump... does anyone know how to change the resolution on tv out?  it's set up as a clone.
[07:14] <El> poopybutt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27438/
[07:14] <tritium> slipttees_: what?
[07:14] <slipttees_> Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[07:14] <slipttees_> ?
[07:14] <Madpilot> slipttees, 7.04 doesn't exist yet
[07:14] <slipttees_> doesn't exits?
[07:14] <slipttees_> yet :)
[07:14] <Flannel> slipttees_: right, Edgy isn't even out yet
[07:15] <slipttees_> humm ok guys :
[07:15] <slipttees_> :)
[07:15] <rcarr> 7.04 should be neat
[07:15] <jim__> edgy isnt listed "stable" yet
[07:15] <rcarr> I think Edgy kind of fell short in implementing a lot of the user evident features it was hoping for torwards the beginning, but managed to lay all the framework
[07:16] <rcarr> Maybe more because of upstream stuff failing to stabilize, i.e. compositing
[07:16] <jim__> however edgy runs like a flaming gorilla with the 2.6.18 kernel
[07:16] <str0ng> hello.. is there any counter part of print artist for linux? or equivalent?
[07:17] <poopybutt> the next development of ubuntu should be labeled "pungent poopy"
[07:17] <ChickenTalons> jim__, plz tell me what that means - a flaming gorilla?
[07:17] <tritium> poopybutt: you're lowering the channel's maturity rating
[07:17] <Madpilot> jim__, a flaming gorilla? So it blunders around screaming, then falls over all burnt up? ;)
[07:17] <jim__> how fast would that gorilla be headed for water?
[07:17] <acehigh> k got a very interesting question
[07:17] <qzn> hey, i'm trying to dist-upgrade using apt-get, which repos should i have, every time some problems occur
[07:17] <ChickenTalons> jim__ i havent watched enough discovery to know if gorillas are fast or slow
[07:18] <Flannel> !tell qzn about upgrade
[07:18] <ChickenTalons> I just wanted to know if that was a positive or a negative assessment
[07:18] <jim__> positive
[07:18] <acehigh> In the older versions of debian you could run mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ftp and it would mount and you could read it
[07:18] <poopybutt> !tell poopybutt about upgrade
[07:18] <acehigh> now how do I mount to allow the user to read it
[07:18] <qzn> 404 not found with many packages
[07:19] <Ademan> that's quite a colorful name there poopybut :-)
[07:19] <qzn> it says i shoud run -i install
[07:19] <qzn> but
[07:19] <Luke> man firefox 2 is totally not ready for use yet.
[07:19] <Madpilot> poopybutt, how about finding a slightly more mature nick?
[07:19] <ChickenTalons> I love that nick!
[07:19] <Luke> does anyone know how to backport with aptitude?
[07:19] <ChickenTalons> thats what I call my puppy
[07:19] <poopybutt> i dont see why its so horrible
[07:20] <poopybutt> ive had this name for like a year
[07:20] <poopybutt> its not offensive
[07:20] <eno> just dist-upgrade to edgy, vnc4server always gets "could not open default font 'fixed'"
[07:20] <qzn> -f install says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:20] <Ademan> poopybutt: Its not HORRIBLE, its just like ... why? lol
[07:20] <eno> ideas? any1?
[07:20] <Ademan> qzn: upgrading to edgy?
[07:20] <acehigh> anyone got a idea?
[07:20] <Chippy> hey, having a spot of trouble getting dual monitors work properly... essentially, I want to be able to maximize onto one monitor (not both, which means no twinview etc).  using an nvidia card
[07:20] <qzn> trying...
[07:21] <Ademan> qzn: x11-common ?
[07:21] <Libertarian> Madpilot, you missed one :)
[07:21] <rbil> quick put a diaper on that guy!
[07:21] <Ademan> giving you trouble?
[07:21] <Luke> does anyone know how to backport with aptitude?
[07:21] <Flannel> Chippy: tried xinerama?
[07:21] <qzn> i belive so
[07:21] <Ademan> qzn: i had that problem too, want my fix?
[07:21] <qzn> yeah
[07:21] <Chippy> Flannel: yeah, I'm running it now, and while some people have reported it working for them, I can't seem to get it to work, even when I copy their xorg.conf almost exactly
[07:22] <aimeri> oh ppl... help me here with gnome-session... pleeeaaassseeee... I begging of you... I like kde but I love gnome... I wish I could go back to my beloved gnome desktop...
[07:22] <Flannel> aimeri: just chose "gnome" from GDM under 'session'
[07:23] <aimeri> huauhauhauha
[07:23] <aimeri> not what i meant
[07:23] <aimeri> sorry
[07:24] <Ademan> qzn: http://rafb.net/paste/results/dUcWJH31.html
[07:24] <Ademan> those are all of the console commands i issued
[07:24] <aimeri> its just that when I go to gnome, and start some programs like firefox or the theme mngr my gnome-session reset ant throw me back to gdm...
[07:24] <Ademan> except for SUCCESS!!! and the *** stuff
[07:24] <qzn> ;] 
[07:24] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install something like this on my http server? http://www.s-code.com/products/viewerx/webvnc.aspx
[07:25] <Ademan> qzn: note i still have one problem, when i boot, Xorg doesnt start, but i can start it easily by just logging into a virtual terminal and goign "startx"
[07:26] <qzn> any ideas what might be the reason ?
[07:26] <Ademan> qzn: still working on it
[07:26] <Ademan> that was earlier today
[07:26] <Ademan> and i've been gone
[07:26] <qzn> maybe i should just format and install form cd ?
[07:26] <Ademan> so i havent had much time for that
[07:26] <qzn> ok
[07:26] <Ademan> qzn: well its no doubt a pain in the ass, but... i think you can do it, and i mean, why lose all your data if you can just upgrade?
[07:27] <Luke> does anyone know how to backport with aptitude?
[07:27] <qzn> would you be so kind, if you find the solution to mail it to me ? (or the adress with it) i have to be going in a while
[07:28] <Ademan> qzn: sure, by the way, any time i do something more than once, i think its safe to only do it once lol, that was just me trying everything
[07:28] <Ademan> Luke: i don't use aptitude, but why would it be any different than apt-get ?
[07:28] <RuinGgg> .
[07:29] <Dr_willis> aptitude seems to be  smarter about fixing some things then just apt-get.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Not sure how/why .. but its fixed things for me in the past.
[07:29] <TGPO> odd, its just a front end
[07:30] <Dr_willis> not sure how  it differs.. i think it some how logs related packages better. perhaps.
[07:30] <Ademan> Dr_willis: right, but how would using a repository be any different? it just solves dependancies better
[07:30] <qzn> ->Ademan i sent you pm, got it ?
[07:30] <aimeri> I dont like to use aptitude often... It always try to remove or my kde or my gnome...
[07:30] <Dr_willis> so it knows how they are inter-related.
[07:30] <tritium> TGPO: it's a bit more.  For example, it will remove unused dependencies when you remove a package installed via aptitude.
[07:30] <Ademan> qzn: no... i didnt unfortunately, hold on
[07:30] <conz> hi, BOTH mycompter in windows and disks in ubuntu cant see my disks :(
[07:30] <rcarr> aimeri, does it reference unneeded dependencies?
[07:30] <rcarr> I am not a big fan of aptitude either, but you should be able to fix that with
[07:30] <Ademan> qzn: did you get mine?
[07:30] <rcarr> apt-mark
[07:30] <tritium> aptitude rocks!
[07:30] <TGPO> so will command line apt if you tell it to
[07:31] <conz> how do i fix?
[07:31] <rcarr> Conz, can you reword that? I am not sure I understand what you mean
[07:31] <Ademan> conz: hard drives?
[07:31] <aimeri> oh yes... but for some reason, if I install kubuntu, anda lather on add ubuntu-desktop, it will think that all my kubuntu-desktop is a hole bunch of unused packages that can be removed...
[07:31] <tritium> TGPO: no, it won't.  You have to use deborphan and such
[07:31] <aimeri> lol
[07:31] <conz> when i open either disks in ubuntu or mycomputer in windows, it just looks forever never finding anythign
[07:31] <rcarr> no you don't tritium
[07:31] <acehigh> I have my ntfs mount in fstab how do I make it so I can let a normal user read the drive?
[07:31] <rcarr> apt-get autoremove
[07:31] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install something like this on my http server? http://www.s-code.com/products/viewerx/webvnc.aspx
[07:31] <rcarr> removes orphan packages
[07:32] <rcarr> and you can mark/unmark packages for removal with apt-mark
[07:32] <qzn> yes, i saw yours
[07:32] <tritium> rcarr: ?
[07:32] <Ademan> qzn: if you sent me any since that, its not working lol
[07:32] <qzn> ;] 
[07:33] <qzn> shit happens, qzn[at] o2[dot] pl
[07:33] <tritium> autoremove is not a valid apt-get operation
[07:33] <tritium> qzn: language, please
[07:33] <rcarr> I think it is new
[07:33] <rcarr> are you running dapper?
[07:33] <qzn> ok
[07:33] <TGPO> auto-remove
[07:33] <TGPO> note the -
[07:33] <tritium> TGPO: also not a valid op
[07:33] <rcarr> I have apt 0.6.45ubuntu14
[07:33] <MrKeuner> how can I add locale to my system
[07:33] <rcarr> and autoremove is most definetly a valid operation
[07:33] <aimeri> If I post a dump of a backtrace for when my gnome-session crashes, will someone here be able to help me with?
[07:33] <Backu> tritium: auto-clean
[07:33] <acehigh> I have my ntfs mount in fstab how do I make it so I can let a normal user read the drive?
[07:33] <Ademan> qzn: got it
[07:34] <rcarr> autoclean removes downloaded packages, not unused dependencies
[07:34] <conz> anyone have an idea what the prob could be?
[07:34] <tritium> Backu: no, that's not for dependencies at all
[07:34] <TGPO> auto-clean just dumps your d/l cahce
[07:34] <qzn> ok
[07:34] <Backu> there is no auto-remove that I have ever seen
[07:34] <rcarr> I am assuming it is new
[07:34] <rcarr> I am running edgy and apt-get --version gives
[07:34] <rcarr> apt 0.6.45ubuntu14 for linux i386 compiled on Sep 27 2006 23:43:26
[07:34] <highvoltage> in edgy there's an auto-remove
[07:34] <highvoltage> it's a new feature in apt
[07:34] <qzn> ademan, one more question, you said you got rid of all broken pck, how do i chech which should i remove ?
[07:35] <qzn> aaa
[07:35] <Backu> I just wish I could get wine running on my system =(
[07:35] <rcarr> Backu, what is your problem?
[07:35] <rcarr> Is it auto-remove for you highvoltage?
[07:35] <acehigh> Backu: join the crowd
[07:35] <Backu> wine won't startup
[07:35] <rcarr> it's autoremove for me, I just tried
[07:35] <Ademan> qzn: all i did was open up synaptic, scroll down to find a package that was broken (has an ALL red checkbox next to it) click on it and hit remove broken package
[07:35] <Ademan> and it marked all broken packages to be removed
[07:36] <Ademan> for whatever reason
[07:36] <conz> come on someone help me plz :((
[07:36] <rcarr> Backu: how are you tryring to run wine programs?
[07:36] <qzn> ok, many thanks
[07:36] <b0xii> Backu: wine or the windows program
[07:36] <rcarr> conz: I didn't understand your question
[07:36] <Ademan> conz: what is your native language?
[07:36] <rcarr> Backu: Can you run winecfg ?
[07:36] <conz> the disks manager in ubuntu just searches forever never finding a disk
[07:36] <Dr_willis> SuperMiguel,  the vnc packages have  a web interface.. but i rarely ever messed with that part of the vnc servers.
[07:36] <Ademan> Backu: what version of wine are you running?
[07:36] <conz> the my computer in windows wont find anything either
[07:37] <Backu> rcarr: nope, that's what I've been trying to run
[07:37] <rcarr> conz: Hard drives of cds?
[07:37] <Ademan> !languages
[07:37] <acehigh> Ademan: can you tell me how to mount a ntfs drive to allow the user to access it also?
[07:37] <highvoltage> rcarr: nope, not for me right now :)
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Chippy> hey, having a spot of trouble getting dual monitors work properly... essentially, I want to be able to maximize onto one monitor (not both, which means no twinview etc).  using an nvidia card, and running xinerama, which doesn't seem to be doing anything in the least
[07:37] <rcarr> Backu:  What version of wine are you running? the version in dapper is woefully outdated if I recall
[07:38] <Ademan> !ntfs > acehigh
[07:38] <Backu> 0.9.23
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  to do that - i thought you had to be using twinview.
[07:38] <Ademan> Backu: so you're usign wine backports? GOOD
[07:38] <rcarr> Ah, no particular ideas then
[07:38] <rcarr> no error messages or anything?
[07:38] <Chippy> Dr_willis: possible, but not just twinview
[07:38] <Backu> oh I get error messages
[07:38] <Ademan> Backu: so what seems to be the problem? there's a #winehq channel if you'd like, but what happens?
[07:38] <Backu> and it's a little spammy
[07:38] <conz> nope nothing
[07:38] <Backu> Ademan: They don't respond
[07:39] <Ademan> conz: what is your native language?
[07:39] <conz> rcarr thanks anyways tho
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i recall using the nvidia config utility to test it out with/withoug twinview and xinerama. i got best  ussage by using both.
[07:39] <rcarr> Backu: Does anything stand out in particular?
[07:39] <Backu> I'll msg you both the error I get
[07:39] <Ademan> Backu: what programs? some windows program you're trying to run with wine?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  but even then - some aps were REALLY stupid about it.
[07:39] <Ademan> because wine is far from perfect, not all programs work *YET*
[07:39] <rcarr> Ademan, not even winecfg  will start
[07:39] <MrKeuner> which package is used to to change the default locale?
[07:39] <rcarr> and ok Backu
[07:40] <Chippy> Dr_willis: mkay, I can use both... any suggestions on getting that set up?
[07:41] <Backu> The error gets slightly more complicated as well...
[07:41] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i followed some guides.. then i discovered that nvidia config tool can do it from the command line..  i then tweaked the xorg.conf it made.
[07:41] <Ademan> Backu: if you messaged me i didnt get it
[07:41] <Backu> hrm
[07:42] <Ademan> Backu: qzn couldn't PM me either
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i discovered the command in that "Ubuntu hacks" book.. but i cant find that book to look it up. :()
[07:42] <Chippy> Dr_willis: tried things similar to that, no go
[07:42] <Ademan> Backu, rcarr: join #Backu
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  that command generated a successfull script for me.   but i still tweaked it a little.
[07:43] <Chippy> Dr_willis: and said successful script allowed you to maximize windows on one screen, not both?
[07:44] <Chippy> Dr_willis: also, was it nvidia-xconfig?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  yes.. thats how it worked for most alll apps.. with JUST xinerama - it used both screens as one huge screen
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  proberly use nvidia-xconfig --help  - i spent some time reading its help outputs
[07:44] <Chippy> Dr_willis: that's what I have now, and what I don't want... I want to be able to maximize to one screen, not both
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  however i still found some apps that were brain dead about it.
[07:44] <compu73rg33k> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and I'm having trouble playing a simple mp3 file, what lib(s) do I need to install to allow Totem and Rhythmbox to play mp3's ?
[07:45] <El> Hey, Im having a problem installing ntfs-3g on Ubuntu. This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27440/    I have done "apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get distro-upgrade", does anyone have any ideas?
[07:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell compu73rg33k about mp3
[07:45] <det> Is a realease candidate due out today?
[07:45] <aimeri> could someone please give a look on this bug report and see if you are able to help me?
[07:45] <Madpilot> det, it's out
[07:45] <aimeri> https://launchpad.net/bugs/65971
[07:46] <aimeri> its really anoying... u.u
[07:46] <Chippy> Dr_willis: so did the nvidia thing let you maximize to one monitor only, or did it stretch it across both screens?
[07:46] <acehigh> Ademan: thanks :)
[07:46] <compu73rg33k> ah thank you El
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i used twinview+xinerama both enabled to get the maxing to stay on one monitor.
[07:46] <Ademan> acehigh: no problem :-) all i did was say "rtfm" hehe
[07:46] <El> >_>
[07:46] <Ademan> but i'm happy to help
[07:46] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  i think.. :)
[07:47] <acehigh> Ademan: thats all i needed was what umask to put hehe
[07:47] <Chippy> Dr_willis: hm, okay... I've got xinerama working right now, but no twinview
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  BUT some apps ignored that .. they always maxed to both.
[07:47] <Dr_willis> Chippy,  with just xinerama it used both as a single huge display
[07:47] <Chippy> Dr_willis: mkay, thanks.  Will put up twinview
[07:48] <steamer> will updateing to Edy, change my present settings
[07:49] <Ademan> steamer: not at all
[07:49] <MrKeuner> which package is used to to change the default locale?
[07:49] <steamer> thanks
[07:49] <Ademan> steamer: but a lot of people have had trouble updating to edgy, i reccomend waiting till the final release
[07:49] <Ademan> (i had quite a bit of trouble myself, and i'm still not there)
[07:50] <steamer> gong to do that, it is about a week away
[07:50] <El> Hey, Im having a problem installing ntfs-3g on Ubuntu. This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27440/    I have done "apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get distro-upgrade", does anyone have any ideas??
[07:50] <TGPO> if I could just get my 7950 to get recognized I'd be happy :(
[07:51] <Ademan> TGPO: I think you need the new NVIDIA beta drivers
[07:51] <TGPO> tried that, blew my config to hell
[07:51] <TGPO> had to switch to the backup
[07:52] <TGPO> even after installing the drivers lspci still lists it as unknown
[07:54] <DaveyJ> hello!
[07:54] <DaveyJ> i just connected an external drive that is formatted as ntfs.. i'm trying to mount it but its telling me /dev/sda1 doesnt exist :(
[07:55] <MrKeuner> how can I add locale to my system?
[07:55] <MrKeuner> !help
[07:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:55] <rcarr> DaveyyJ: Does /dev/sda1 exist?
[07:55] <rcarr> ls /dev | grep sda1
[07:56] <MrKeuner> How can i Select supported locales?
[07:56] <DaveyJ> nope
[07:56] <unstable> .wc
[07:56] <james296> how come when I upgraded to the release candidate of version 6.10, I didnt get the new wallpaper, logon screen and splash screen???
[07:56] <DaveyJ> i just used gparted.. and its saying the filesystem is unknown
[07:56] <rcarr> is it usb DaveyJ?
[07:56] <DaveyJ> yeah its usb
[07:56] <Ademan> james296: they regected the new artwork
[07:56] <rcarr> does it show up in "lsusb"
[07:56] <rcarr> ?
[07:56] <Ademan> james296: theres a package full of it though, gimme a sec
[07:56] <james296> ummm, WHY?
[07:57] <Ademan> james296: http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/edgy-theme_0.1-0.deb   lemme see if its in the official repositories though...
[07:57] <rcarr> MrKeuner
[07:57] <james296> why would they reject the artwork...
[07:57] <rcarr> I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, as I know little about localization, but "apt-cache search locale" gives packages of the form
[07:57] <rcarr> language-support-* which seem to be meta packages for various locales
[07:58] <Ademan> james296: theres a series of edgy-*some form of art* packages
[07:58] <DaveyJ> rcarr: what do you mean?
[07:58] <Ademan> maybe those have what you want?
[07:58] <rcarr> and language-pack-*
[07:58] <DaveyJ> lsusb?
[07:58] <rcarr> running the command "lsusb"
[07:58] <rcarr> is it listed as an attached device?
[07:58] <DaveyJ> yeah what am i lookin gfor
[07:59] <DaveyJ> microsoft corp, microsoft corp, prolific tech
[07:59] <MrKeuner> rcarr: thank you
[07:59] <DaveyJ> i think its just a problem with the filesystem
[07:59] <DaveyJ> can i force it to read it as ntfs?
[07:59] <ice_1963> what is ubuntu runing for a firewall still Firestarter ?
[07:59] <rcarr> mount -t ntfs /dev/pathtoyourdevice /mnt/path/to/your/mountpoint
[08:00] <rcarr> but I thought you said it wasn't showing up in dev?
[08:00] <DaveyJ> its not lol.. it is through gparted though
[08:00] <ReverseBlade> DaveyJ, I have both read and write access to my  windows partition
[08:00] <DaveyJ> congrats?
[08:00] <ReverseBlade> yeah kudos to me , lol
[08:00] <DaveyJ> lol
[08:01] <ReverseBlade> I just wanted to tell you what is possible
[08:01] <DaveyJ> i just need to get 1 album off this damn drive before i have to go fly to vegas tomorrow
[08:01] <ReverseBlade> DaveyJ, why don't you search the forums. Tons of info there about mounting
[08:01] <DaveyJ> its not a mounting problem
[08:02] <rcarr> DaveyJ, what is it named
[08:02] <ReverseBlade> what problem ?
[08:02] <DaveyJ> its a filesystem problem.. i need to either do some kind of recovery or force it
[08:02] <rcarr> under gparted?
[08:02] <El> Hey I have just managed to install ntfs-3g. My NTFS drive is not currently mounted at all. What is the command to mount it (hda1) to /mnt/windows with full writable permissions?
[08:02] <DaveyJ> rcarr: sda1
[08:02] <DaveyJ> well sda
[08:02] <rcarr> Mm, if that is showing up, but not the partition
[08:02] <rcarr> I would have to guess corruption
[08:03] <DaveyJ> yes its definately file system corruption
[08:03] <rcarr> there is a package: ntfsprogs
[08:03] <DaveyJ> i'm asking if theres any way around that
[08:03] <rcarr> which might contain and ntfs fsck program
[08:03] <rcarr> but I am not sure
[08:03] <stevr1it> morning i have some problem with the audio who can help me?
[08:03] <ReverseBlade> El, follow this http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[08:04] <ReverseBlade> El, ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o silent,umask=0,locale=hu_HU.utf8
[08:04] <El> Thank you heaps
[08:04] <kenshin_ds> hi there
[08:04] <ReverseBlade> alright
[08:04] <ReverseBlade> Hello master
[08:05] <ReverseBlade> lol
[08:05] <kenshin_ds> hi
[08:05] <rcarr> stevr1it, no one knows until you are more specific
[08:05] <stevr1it> thNK YOU
[08:05] <kenshin_ds> its recommended use ubuntu 6.10 or not?
[08:05] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, after it is released you can if you like to
[08:05] <stevr1it> I I have ubuntu dapper and the audio of totem does not work,
[08:05] <stevr1it> 6.10
[08:05] <kenshin_ds> ReverseBlade, yeah i know
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> ReverseBlade, are u using 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:06] <El> ReverseBlade: I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27442/
[08:06] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, right now it is not recommended, just wait a week
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> humm
[08:06] <rcarr> dapper is ubuntu 6.06 stevr1it
[08:06] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, 6.06. But I am a bit conservative person
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> well my problem is...
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> ReverseBlade, haha
[08:06] <stevr1it> sorry the last one 6.10
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> im using gentoo here
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> but i got MANY MANY MANY problems
[08:06] <stevr1it> i am a bit sleepy in the morning
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> with my vga and drivers+opengl+fglrx
[08:06] <kenshin_ds> on this OS
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> and i want to change
[08:07] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, that you do ?
[08:07] <stevr1it> the sound come out low and no perfect
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> but, if i install ubuntu today
[08:07] <enoshei> increase the PCM
[08:07] <stevr1it> how and what can i check?
[08:07] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, go for 6.10 then
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> when 6.10 will be release, will be easy
[08:07] <kenshin_ds> upgrade 6.06-6.10?
[08:08] <npodges> where is a good place to get an xvidcap .deb?
[08:08] <james296> now how can I add the Edgy splash screen?
[08:08] <ReverseBlade> kenshin_ds, go for 6.10 and you wont regret
[08:08] <ReverseBlade> El I can open that page
[08:10] <rcarr> Yes kenshin, it  will be easy to upgrade to 6.10
[08:10] <ReverseBlade> El,  it's my ISP I think, sorry
[08:10] <rcarr> I think you can use a program called update-manager
[08:10] <rcarr> or replace all occurences of dapper with edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <rcarr> and run apt-get update
[08:10] <rcarr> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> yeah i know
[08:10] <james296> well?
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> but when i upgrade to 6.06
[08:10] <El> ohk, il paste the error here then. Sorry for channel flood everyone
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> of this way
[08:10] <El> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o silent,umask=0,locale=hu_HU.utf8
[08:10] <El> Couldn't set locale to hu_HU.utf8 thus you may not see properly or at all some files.
[08:10] <El> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[08:10] <El> Failed to startup volume: Permission denied
[08:10] <El> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Permission denied
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> i got many problems hehe
[08:10] <kraut> moin
[08:10] <ReverseBlade> El, you do it with sudo
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> well
[08:10] <El> oh crap.
[08:10] <El> sorry.
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> i will download 6.10 and install
[08:10] <kenshin_ds> see you later guys
[08:10] <El> god damn, i hate it when i do newbie mistakes like that
[08:10] <El> :p
[08:10] <ReverseBlade> hehe
[08:10] <stevr1it> how can i recognise with audio device i have and how to set up it?
[08:11] <STI40> I just installed an nvidia GForce MX4000 in one of my boxes, and preformed a fresh install of Ubuntu Dapper Server, I can't get it to boot... Looks like something is looping when the drivers load
[08:11] <STI40> Any suggestions?
[08:11] <ReverseBlade> stevr1it, you may try, www.getautomatix.com, to ease your pains
[08:11] <stevr1it> alrady done
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> aw
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> i forgot to question
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> *ask
[08:12] <stevr1it> i have already installed automatix
[08:12] <kenshin_ds> 6.10 is compatible with xgl and wine?
[08:13] <kenshin_ds> hello?
[08:14] <stevr1it> the audio comes out bad
[08:14] <kenshin_ds> stevr1it
[08:14] <stevr1it> yes
[08:14] <kenshin_ds> 6.10 is compatible with xgl and wine?
[08:14] <El> How do I unmount a NTFS partition? it is saying there is no 'unmount' command
[08:14] <rcarr> Kenshin: Yes
[08:14] <kenshin_ds> El the command is umount
[08:15] <El> oohk
[08:15] <El> read it wrong lol
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> :)
[08:15] <rcarr> backwards compatibility won't be broken like that
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> no problem
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> stevr1it are u using it? its stable?
[08:15] <STI40> how do i go about troubleshooting a fresh install error?
[08:15] <stevr1it> using what
[08:15] <kenshin_ds> stevr1it 6.10
[08:15] <stevr1it> uyes perfect
[08:15] <stevr1it> only the audio
[08:15] <stevr1it> everything works marvellously
[08:16] <NetDog> anyone use fluxbox on ubuntu?
[08:16] <STI40> Hello ?
[08:16] <rcarr> I have been using 6.10 for a while now, it has been fine for me
[08:16] <highvoltage> NetDog: lots of people do
[08:16] <rcarr> while=month and a half or so
[08:16] <stevr1it> this laptop has a kind of srs Trusorrounded xt
[08:16] <rcarr> but some people have had issues kenshin
[08:17] <kenshin_ds> rcarr huum, a friend tells me that 6.10 has a little problem to install vga drivers :(
[08:17] <El> OMG YES!!! I HAVE NTFS-3G WORKING!!  Thanks  ofr all your help everyone!
[08:17] <NetDog> highvoltage: hi there..didnt see you
[08:17] <NetDog> highvoltage: :)
[08:17] <rcarr> unless you feel comfortable enough to fix things if your X breaks or something, I would wait
[08:17] <highvoltage> NetDog: hi :)
[08:17] <rcarr> but I don't think much wiwll change anymore
[08:17] <rcarr> just the number of people able to help you
[08:17] <rcarr> I'm not aware of a problem like that, but one could exist
[08:17] <kenshin_ds> rcarr yeah u convinced me
[08:18] <kenshin_ds> rcarr downloading 6.10 hehe
[08:18] <STI40> <--- does not exist
[08:18] <rcarr> it's nice, a lot of under the hood changes
[08:18] <rcarr> significant espescially for kubuntu users
[08:18] <rcarr> (me!)
[08:18] <BrettHatley> kenshin_ds, theres a 6.10? is that "edgy"?
[08:18] <rcarr> I thought kubuntu dapper was really unpolished
[08:18] <rcarr> Yes Brett
[08:19] <NetDog> highvoltage: Im having issues as always..I want to make fluxbox start up as my default window manager,I need to create a .xinitrc file or script but dont really know what to put in it.
[08:19] <rcarr> It's at Release Candidate stage now, and is set to come out in 6 days
[08:19] <stevr1it> it does the same with totem and vlc
[08:19] <rcarr> NetDog
[08:19] <STI40> My ubuntu box is broken... Can anyone help?
[08:19] <rcarr> unless you login from a console, and run "startx" to start up your xserver
[08:19] <rcarr> .xinitrc is not what you are looking for
[08:20] <BrettHatley> rcarr, is 6.10 "edgy"?
[08:20] <rcarr> Yes Brett
[08:20] <highvoltage> NetDog: hmmm.. I'm not sure there... a lot of people on #xubuntu uses fluxbox, perhaps someone there will know?
[08:20] <rcarr> STI40, be more specific, no one knows if they can help until they know what the problem is
[08:20] <BrettHatley> you told me that already, sorry rcarr I was looking for my whole name
[08:20] <rcarr> Heh, no problem
[08:21] <kenshin_ds> rcarr kde is working more fine on 6.10
[08:21] <kenshin_ds> ?
[08:21] <NetDog> rcarr: so then how do i set it to start fluxbox by default?
[08:21] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now to no effect.  Any ideas?
[08:21] <BrettHatley> whats the "edgy" channel?
[08:21] <BrettHatley> #ubuntu-edgy?
[08:21] <Foc> BrettHatley: #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <BrettHatley> thank you
[08:22] <Foc> np
[08:22] <THX-1138> use the clone setting?
[08:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hey folks
[08:22] <rcarr> yes Kenshin, it's a newer release of KDE
[08:22] <rcarr> and quite a bit nicer
[08:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> linux on a flash drive
[08:22] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.althack.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=27
[08:22] <rcarr> NetDog: Do you login via KDM or GDM?
[08:22] <NetDog> rcarr: gdm
[08:23] <STI40> rcarr - Fresh Install Unbuntu Dapper Server.  P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB Ram, GF4 MX Video, Intel Chipset MB.  Makes it through the install, loads kernel, at *Loading Hardware Drivers I get a quick flash and an auto reboot... it's in a loop
[08:23] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, thank you ! I have a 1g flash drive here ive been dying to do that with
[08:23] <STI40> I have a suspicion it is due to the video card
[08:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley No Problem !!!!!!!!!
[08:23] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, aww heck - I thought that was with ubuntu - is there a guide for putting ubuntu onto a 1g usb flash drive?
[08:23] <rcarr> NetDog: And fluxbox doesn't show up under  the list of sessions you can choose?
[08:24] <PURESKILLZZZ> Seen it ran on a lot of devices before but now its time for me to play with strabnge items and linux
[08:24] <BrettHatley> or can I plug in my USB and do the CD install onto the 1g usb flash drive?
[08:24] <BrettHatley> my USB flash drive that is
[08:25] <NetDog> rcarr: I swear i didnt see that
[08:25] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now, but everything still maximizes stretched.  Any ideas?
[08:25] <c|int> hey all
[08:25] <STI40> what else do you need to know?
[08:25] <NetDog> rcarr: thanks
[08:25] <c|int> having problems with nvidia agp
[08:25] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley sorry ... But I will play with it ssoon and share if I get unbuntu to run on it
[08:25] <rcarr> Hehe, no problem
[08:25] <stevr1it> what can id do then? the audio does not work propeerly
[08:25] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, that would be greatly appreciated, ive been trying to do something like that for a year or two now
[08:25] <c|int> edited xorg.conf, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org,  something wrong
[08:26] <c|int> can anyone help
[08:26] <PURESKILLZZZ> well I have installed ubuntu on 40 machines and laptops so far .....
[08:26] <PURESKILLZZZ> going to try the new alternative version and see if it will install on a 133mhz 16mb ram machine
[08:26] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, nice - what im looking for is a functional ubuntu install that isnt on a read-only medium
[08:26] <c|int> eh?
[08:27] <c|int> PURESKILLZZZ:
[08:27] <c|int> can you help me you think?
[08:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int what you need ?
[08:27] <c|int> trying to get my nvidia to perform righgt
[08:27] <ljlolel> I'm using the nv module because i get the error with the nvidia module: Error: missing /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[08:27] <c|int> right*
[08:27] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley read only ??? You mean cd .... ??? So you dont want to put it on hard drive just another type of device ??
[08:27] <c|int> did, nvidia-settings nvidia-glx, but something wrong eh
[08:28] <c|int> o.O
[08:28] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int nvida ... hmmm do you have wine installed ??
[08:28] <c|int> yep
[08:28] <c|int> lmao.. run vmware and all .lol :)
[08:28] <PURESKILLZZZ> and you have the wine install version for nvida ??
[08:28] <c|int> hm
[08:28] <c|int> no
[08:29] <c|int> apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[08:29] <PURESKILLZZZ> get the package for it
[08:29] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, I want to put it onto a 1g USB flash drive, I dont want to install to it, I want to put the livecd on it but I'd like to be able to save my settings
[08:29] <c|int> is what I did
[08:29] <c|int> what package
[08:29] <ljlolel> you cant install nvidia-glx and nvidia settings ever (i dontk now why)
[08:29] <BrettHatley> I dont know how to explain that without sounding retarded - I want my usb to be like the livecd with the added ability of saving the settings I use
[08:29] <PURESKILLZZZ> BrettHatley The live should work on a bootable flash drive on a machine that can boot from usb
[08:30] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int get all the wine updates and all packages
[08:30] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, is there a howto for putting the image onto the USB drive so it boots properly?
[08:30] <highvoltage> PURESKILLZZZ: I understand what you mean, basically, you want a full ubuntu installation on your usb disk?
[08:30] <PURESKILLZZZ> I have never took the nvida seperate so I cant tell you exact name
[08:30] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now, but everything still maximizes stretched.  Any ideas?
[08:30] <ripper> does anyone know why tovid does not work on edgy?
[08:30] <STI40> My Ubuntu box hangs at * Loading hardware drivers then reboots itself
[08:30] <rcarr> BrettHatley: A distribution better suited for that, that includes tools for saving and stuff might be Knoppix
[08:31] <BrettHatley> STI40, that sounds like an acpi malfunction
[08:31] <PURESKILLZZZ> highvoltage thats my idea but bret wants to run the live on a flashdrive
[08:31] <rcarr> BrettHatley: It is debian based like ubuntu, but oriented torwards running off thumbsticks and livecds
[08:31] <NetDog> rcarr: I start fluxbox,but when i right-click there is no menu only the word fluxbox,
[08:31] <BrettHatley> rcarr, knoppix has a usb image???
[08:31] <ripper> seems that tovid will not encode video for some reason
[08:31] <rcarr> Brett: Yes, I am certain I have seen it before let me look
[08:31] <STI40> Brett so check ??
[08:31] <NetDog> rcarr: what are possible reasons for this
[08:32] <rcarr> NetDog: I have never used fluxbox, but it's possible it requires manual configuration to add menu stuff
[08:32] <c|int> back
[08:32] <PURESKILLZZZ> wb
[08:32] <c|int> so do what about the nvidia
[08:32] <BrettHatley> STI40, please tell me your hardware setup
[08:32] <c|int> I'm an IT PURESKILLZZZ
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: This might be more useful to you: http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: You could probably modify the ubuntu cd via a similar process
[08:33] <BrettHatley> rcarr, thank you
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: If you are content with knoppix however, http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ
[08:33] <rcarr> Brett: has a lot of info
[08:34] <STI40> P4 2.4Ghz, 512MB Ram, (it's an HP D220 MT Workstation).  It has onboard video which I disabled and added a GF4 MX 4000 PCI video card (no AGP slot)
[08:34] <Backu> Anyone know anythig about winetools?
[08:34] <PURESKILLZZZ> well nvida has a few issues with linux as we dont hve all the drivers .... I have a similar issue but just living with 1024x 768
[08:34] <tupac> k
[08:34] <c|int> hey PURESKILLZZZ
[08:34] <c|int> talk in a few,
[08:34] <STI40> which makes me think that it has to do with the video card, because it was working with the on board video
[08:35] <c|int> maybe you can help me get my nvidia card working better :-) for open GL :)
[08:35] <PURESKILLZZZ> STI40 onboard video more than likely uses an older driver which has filtered into linux already .. new card is going to take some playing with ...
[08:35] <Chippy> hello, I'm trying to get my dual screens setup in such a way that applications maximize to ONE screen, not stretched across both.  Running twinview and xinerama right now, but everything still maximizes stretched.  Any ideas?
[08:35] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:36] <STI40> Pureskillzz - ok i figured that, but I can't even boot to console... how do i start troubleshooting?
[08:36] <STI40> other than just removing the video card
[08:36] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int I would more than likely have to bein front of your machine .. But to be honest I would just manually size applications I am using since both screens are working
[08:36] <THX-1138> Chippy - Have you seen this program "nvidia-xconfig"?
[08:36] <tupac> i finish the installition but how do i use it ?
[08:37] <BrettHatley> STI40, will the computer boot without the pci card?
[08:38] <STI40> Brett - Haven't tried since I reinstalled
[08:38] <Chippy> Can no one help me setup my dual monitors?
[08:38] <BrettHatley> STI40, try.
[08:38] <Bensr20det> Can anyone help me with a firefox issue??
[08:38] <PURESKILLZZZ> STI40 you have to do a manual boot or manual install .. Forget what ubuntu calls it ... In this you have to add the drivers to the system in dos
[08:38] <STI40> k
[08:38] <rcarr> ST140: wait
[08:38] <STI40> k... i just used the 'canned' install
[08:38] <BrettHatley> PURESKILLZZZ, his problem is mostly likely from using an antiquated pci video card
[08:38] <rcarr> StI40: If you just reinstalled and still have the cd (assuming you used the livecd) boot in to that
[08:38] <STI40> k
[08:38] <STI40> one sec
[08:38] <rcarr> STI40: And find what device your ubuntu partition is, i.e.
[08:38] <STI40> k
[08:38] <rcarr> ST140: /dev/hda3, etc
[08:38] <STI40> only have 1 ide drive, 2 partitions
[08:38] <STI40> booting to cd
[08:38] <BrettHatley> ok anyhow I have to get to work - its been fun all
[08:38] <PURESKILLZZZ> lets see if it boots
[08:38] <rcarr> Ok, see you in a few minutes then
[08:38] <BrettHatley> Nice try again Madpilot  :)
[08:39] <STI40> yes, it boots to the live cd...
[08:39] <PURESKILLZZZ> Will it boot all the way is the question
[08:39] <STI40> almost there
[08:40] <Chippy> So no one here knows anything about setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?
[08:40] <STI40> I assumed i was supposed to pick the 'Rescue a broken System' option?
[08:40] <rcarr> Err, I haven't tried that option
[08:40] <Bensr20det> When I open Firefox I get a "Firefox - Restore Previous Session" I can say restore or new session. no matter what i pick firefox opens up is there for about 1 second and then it closes. also I am using edgy.
[08:40] <rcarr> but that is probably a good one to try
[08:40] <STI40> k
[08:40] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy I am asking the linux guru now so please hold
[08:41] <rcarr> Also, did you install dapper or edgy?
[08:41] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: mkay, thanks for the response
[08:41] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:41] <STI40> dapper
[08:41] <tupac> i finish the installition but how do i use it ?
[08:41] <aimeri> hey, this is a easy one... how do I blacklist a process???
[08:41] <rcarr> I missed the beginning of the problem, but I gathered you added a PCI card, and it refuses to boot now?
[08:41] <rpedro> Bensr20det: try and run firefox in safe mode like 'firefox -safe-mode'
[08:42] <STI40> yes, i added a pci video card, reinstalled OS... now it refuses to run
[08:42] <STI40> err bot
[08:42] <STI40> boot even
[08:42] <Hal_> Hello, running Dapper Drake (6.06) on an AMD 64. Trying to get ndiswrapper working so that I can connect to the Internet. I can't seem to find the build essentials package to download freely on the Internet and I can't just use apt-get due to the nature of my situation. Does anyone have any suggestions please?
[08:43] <STI40> rcarr ... ok i now have a 'rescue mode' console
[08:43] <Bensr20det> rpedro: same problem
[08:43] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy dual screen card or 2 cards ???
[08:43] <rcarr> STI40: That's a console chrooted to your install probably
[08:44] <STI40> k
[08:44] <rcarr> STI40: What kind of video card?
[08:44] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy What distro are you using ?
[08:44] <STI40> generic nvidia GF4 MX4000
[08:44] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: dual screen card, on ubuntu
[08:45] <rcarr> And what exactly happens when you try to boot?
[08:45] <STI40> when i get to the * Loading Hardware Drivers part it hangs then reboots
[08:45] <PURESKILLZZZ> STI40 did it fully boot with the cd ???
[08:45] <rcarr> He booted in to a recovery console PURESKILLZZZ
[08:45] <STI40> this is the server install
[08:46] <rcarr> which seems to be a chrooted console in to his install
[08:46] <kenshin_ds> im burn the cd of 6.10 :D
[08:46] <STI40> but yes just like rcarr says
[08:46] <rcarr> Mm, thinking
[08:46] <rcarr> well, the first thing to try, as it probably can't hurt
[08:46] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:46] <rcarr> is to make  sure the system is upgraded and stuff
[08:46] <STI40> k
[08:46] <rcarr> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:47] <rcarr> etcetc
[08:47] <DaveyJ> best rar handler for kde?
[08:47] <Hal_> Hello, running Dapper Drake (6.06) on an AMD 64. Trying to get ndiswrapper working so that I can connect to the Internet. I can't seem to find the build essentials package to download freely on the Internet and I can't just use apt-get due to the nature of my situation. Does anyone have any suggestions please?
[08:47] <rcarr> but if you just downloaded the CD it should be fine
[08:47] <STI40> yeah
[08:47] <STI40> doing that now
[08:47] <STI40> i didn't just download the cd... but it is updating
[08:47] <rcarr> err, DaveJ, I think ark handles rars if you are looking for a GUI tool
[08:47] <DaveyJ> its saying unrar isnt found
[08:47] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ hi .... ndiswrapper is easily found but you also need the actual driver for the wireless card you plan to use
[08:47] <tupac> no u have to do update it by ur self :)
[08:48] <rcarr> Doi
[08:48] <Hal_> Yes PURESKILLZZZZ, I have them.
[08:48] <tupac> ya
[08:48] <Hal_> But I can't find ndiswrapper. In a perfect world there would an amd64 package.
[08:48] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ did u find nidswrapper ??? or do you need it ?
[08:48] <rcarr> Daveyj, install unrar or unrar-free
[08:48] <Hal_> Well, I have the source, but I can't build.
[08:48] <birdfish> Hey guys, just wondering how I would uninstall certain themes?
[08:49] <DaveyJ> rcarr: not available
[08:51] <rcarr> What repositories do you have enabled?
[08:51] <DaveyJ> i should check
[08:51] <rcarr> unrar is in multiverse/utils
[08:51] <Hal_> A 64bit deb package would be lovely, but I don't think I'll find one.
[08:51] <rcarr> and unrar-free is in universe/utils
[08:51] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: any update?
[08:51] <rcarr> I would use unrar
[08:51] <rcarr> as unrar-free can't handle rar 3.0 files
[08:51] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy http://www.guru.net.nz/blog/2006/10/ubuntu-on-desktop.html
[08:51] <kenshin_ds> im going to install ubuntu
[08:51] <kenshin_ds> see you later
[08:51] <PURESKILLZZZ> rcarr http://www.guru.net.nz/blog/2006/10/ubuntu-on-desktop.html
[08:51] <rcarr> Yes pureskillz?
[08:51] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: that's not going to help me much, I'm on nvidia?
[08:51] <DaveyJ> i enabled all the sources and its still saying unavialable
[08:51] <DaveyJ> nevermind.. -free worked
[08:51] <ljlolel> i did apt-get --reiinstall the linux restricted modules
 but they disappear every time i reboot
 it disappears from the volatile/ folder
[08:52] <DaveyJ> ark still wont work though :(
[08:52] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/01/enabling-xinerama-in-ubuntu/
[08:52] <DaveyJ> dammit all the files failed :( .. must be the archive
[08:52] <rcarr> newer archives might not work with
[08:53] <rcarr> -free
[08:53] <rcarr> you have "multiverse" enabled
[08:53] <rcarr> and unrar still isn't showing up?
[08:53] <STI40> rcarr - ok it updated several apps, and have a newer kernel
[08:53] <Hal_> PURESKILLZZZ: Do you think there will be a 64 bit version of ndiswrapper, or will I have to look for the build essential tools, and make ndiswrapper from source?
[08:53] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: xinerama and twinview are running, no effect
[08:53] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy http://www.incunabulum.de/index_html/blogentry.2005-12-06.8595909838/projects/it/ubuntulaptop/xinerma
[08:53] <rcarr> STI40: I would try booting again, it might be a fixed bug
[08:53] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ dcc allow me ill send
[08:53] <STI40> k
[08:54] <Hal_> OK, give me a moment, still getting used to this silly IRC client.
[08:54] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:54] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:54] <tupac> hi there i wanna know abut enlightenment
[08:54] <tupac> any one ?
[08:54] <PURESKILLZZZ> OK ... Lets stop all dual screen questions ...... watch the video ... *Laughs*
[08:54] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiYGXyYjbGo
[08:54] <jimdaniels> is there any difference between the packages "xorg-driver-fglrx" and "fglrx-kernel-2.6.17-10-generic" ?
[08:54] <rcarr> Hi Tupac, repeating your message three times is a way to get ignored
[08:54] <tupac> e16
[08:55] <rcarr> You could try and find a channel discussing enlightenment
[08:55] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: and this helps me how?
[08:55] <tupac> my frins
[08:55] <rcarr> I think wikibooks has an enlightenment users manual
[08:55] <tupac> it is a desktop manger
[08:55] <rcarr> Yes, I know
[08:55] <tupac> ok can i use it in ubuntu ?
[08:55] <rcarr> Yes
[08:56] <ripper> anyone ever seen this? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/H4cKG485.html
[08:56] <tupac> thanx gad
[08:56] <Administrator> gh
[08:56] <rcarr> it's in the package "enlightenment" suprisingly
[08:56] <tupac> tel me ho come ?
[08:56] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: so you give up
[08:56] <STI40> rcar - ok no dice on boot, but i get some information on the screen when it locks up now
[08:56] <rcarr> install that package with "sudo apt-get install enlightenment" or from synaptic, or whatever
[08:56] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: ?
[08:56] <tupac> ok i did it
[08:56] <tupac> wht the next ?
[08:56] <rcarr> installed enlightenment?
[08:57] <rcarr> log out, and at the login screen find where you can select sessions
[08:57] <rcarr> and select enlighttenment rather than gn ome or kde or whatever you normally use
[08:57] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy do you have aim ????
[08:57] <PURESKILLZZZ> or gaim with an aim name
[08:57] <rcarr> STI40: I sent you a private message
[08:57] <Chippy> PURESKILLZZZ: not setup on my linux partition :(
[08:57] <PURESKILLZZZ> private messages arent working well
[08:57] <jimdaniels> it is an important question for me because i need my xserver running propperly. please anybody?
[08:57] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[08:58] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[08:58] <STI40> rcarr i am unregidtered, says i can't IM
[08:58] <PURESKILLZZZ> Chippy get gaim and message me ... rashad69696969
[08:58] <jimdaniels> why you keep repeating your questions man
[08:58] <STI40> err unregistered
[08:58] <Bensr20det> easy question... I just installed edgy and did all the updates. when ever I open firefox to a page that needs flash player it shuts down firefox. I also tried to install flash player from adobe.com to home/me/.opera and home/me/.mozilla how do i fix this?
[08:58] <rcarr> try /msg nickserver REGISTER passwordyouwant
[08:58] <rcarr> I just thought since it was ongoing we shohuld probably take it out of the channel
[08:59] <PURESKILLZZZ> Bensr20det SImple answer .. Flash 9 is out .. google it ,.. install it ... iof u sdont have wine and/or automatix running then do that before asking again sir
[08:59] <tupac> rcarr
[08:59] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[08:59] <c|int> back
[08:59] <tupac> wb
[08:59] <rcarr> Mmm tupac, just a second
[08:59] <c|int> thanks
[08:59] <Bensr20det> thank you sir
[09:00] <tupac> ok
[09:00] <Hal_> PURESKILLZZZ: I'm sorry but this IRC client doesn't seem to want to work, is there a link to the file you are trying to send me?
[09:00] <c|int> need help gettin this nvidia agp working high performance
[09:00] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ get aim .. message me there ..... rashad69696969
[09:00] <rcarr> Tupac, are you running GDM or KDM?
[09:00] <rcarr> Easy way to identify: Did you install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:00] <tupac> GDM
[09:00] <c|int> gnome display manager
[09:00] <rcarr> Ok, in "/usr/share/xsessions"
[09:01] <rcarr> no enlightenment.desktop, right?
[09:01] <c|int> nvidia...
[09:01] <c|int> nvida..
[09:01] <tupac> no
[09:01] <c|int> nvidia :)
[09:01] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk_eftDNjEQ&mode=related&search=
[09:01] <rcarr> is there an enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ ?
[09:01] <rcarr> If so, copy it over
[09:01] <c|int> need help with nvidia plz :)
[09:01] <tupac> let me chake plz
[09:01] <tupac> howld on
[09:02] <Backu> c|int: Just pose your problem or question
[09:02] <Hal_> PURESKILLZZZ: What happens when you try to send me a file via DCC?
[09:02] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ no good on this network
[09:03] <Hal_> Ok, what file are you trying to send?
[09:03] <PURESKILLZZZ> pureskillzzz.rr.nu : port 444 : up2me / up2me
[09:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hal_ ndiswrapper is there on my server .. enjoy
[09:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> passive off
[09:04] <Hal_> Thank you.
[09:04] <PURESKILLZZZ> No Problem !!!!!!!!!
[09:05] <tupac> rcarr
[09:05] <rcarr> Hi tupac
[09:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> Anybody else with a video problem can join me on aim .... A linux guru is there but he isnt joining here today ....
[09:05] <Filox> hello, i have a question
[09:05] <tupac> i am a bigner
[09:05] <tupac> :$
[09:05] <tupac> i trry to get u but i cant
[09:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> on aim
[09:05] <PURESKILLZZZ> rashad69696969
[09:06] <tupac> do u have any link to help me ,, i don wanna bathiring u any more
[09:06] <PURESKILLZZZ> tupac whats your aim name ?
[09:06] <Filox> can i use my pc ir port with a generic tv remote? (cheaper)
[09:06] <ircnewb> thats a lot of 69's guy
[09:06] <ircnewb> what are you implying?
[09:06] <PURESKILLZZZ> *Laughs*
[09:06] <rcarr> I don't tupac, sorryr
[09:06] <PURESKILLZZZ> ircnewb yes with the right configurations but distance isnt long
[09:06] <tupac> i go to  sessions but i did not find enlightenment
[09:06] <ircnewb> someone might think you want to "cyber"
[09:07] <ircnewb> wait hold on a sec, im not in the AA room?
[09:07] <PURESKILLZZZ> I dont cyber ... I have a tech/help room that's been running over 3 years on aim
[09:07] <ircnewb> crap wrong channel
[09:07] <Filox> hey is there a channel or a person especially for ir linux?
[09:07] <jimdaniels> how can i check out if a module is loaded or not?
[09:08] <c|int> sup filox
[09:08] <tupac> lol Filox
[09:08] <c|int> nope :)
[09:08] <drbashir> After adding a hard drive GRUB complains and gives me Error 22, what do I do?
[09:08] <Filox> sup?
[09:08] <drbashir> I have the HD connected now, and booted into Ubuntu (I connected it while in the GRUB menu)
[09:08] <ircnewb> how do i set the grub timeout to 0 and the splash screen to show?
[09:08] <c|int> Backu:  , you still here?
[09:08] <Ayabara> !firefox
[09:08] <ircnewb> i remember their was a tutorial somewhere..
[09:08] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:09] <ircnewb> !grub
[09:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:09] <hodden> Have a problem with my graphic... whent starting Xorg with ATI Radeon the screen get black and I cant get back to the tty. first time anny dist has crashed for me...
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: You're going to edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:09] <ircnewb> ahh thanks tonyyarusso
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: Timeout is nicely explained in a comment, for the splash screen just add the word splash at the end of the relevant kernel line.
[09:12] <rcarr> hodden: What driver are you using?
[09:12] <ircnewb> hmm tonyyarusso splash is already at the end of the line
[09:12] <ircnewb> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[09:12] <c|int> nvidia, help plz anyone :)
[09:12] <PURESKILLZZZ> c|int get on aim
[09:12] <hodden> rcarr fglrx
[09:12] <marcos9966> DISCONNECT
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: But you don't get the pretty usplash?
[09:13] <ircnewb> nope just text
[09:13] <hodden> rcarr and my graphics gard is Radeon X300 (PCIE)
[09:13] <ircnewb> i get some errors though
[09:13] <c|int> I register with, msn, and yahoo :-)
[09:13] <ircnewb> like unable to map stuff
[09:13] <ircnewb> but it still boots
[09:13] <Ademan> how can i detect the filesystem of a hard drive? (its a brand new hard drive i just installed, i expect ntfs but it could be unformated)
[09:13] <c|int> talk on filetopia, but really havn't talked on chat clients for a while
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: Ah, okay.  usplash falls back to text if there are errors so you can see what they are.
[09:14] <rcarr> hodden: You could try the "radeon" driver
[09:14] <rcarr> hodden: It has direct rendering support for the X300
[09:14] <ircnewb> and funny thing is, i have to unplug my external usb drive during boot up, if not it freezes up on mounting file systems
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> Ademan: Perhaps with fdisk?
[09:14] <ircnewb> i dunno why
[09:14] <rcarr> hodden: And is an open source driver, rather than fglrx
[09:14] <rcarr> Hodden: I'm not sure if it is included in dappers Xorg though
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: I had a similar problem
[09:15] <ircnewb> is it a known issue?
[09:15] <ircnewb> or is it just me?
[09:15] <c|int> talk later, on issue
[09:15] <c|int> :)
[09:15] <rcarr> hodden: and if it is, it is probably a less matured version as the dri on the radeon driver isn't that old
[09:15] <Ademan> its unformated
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> ircnewb: I don't know; I haven't gotten around to searching the bugs yet.
[09:15] <Ademan> what type of disklabel should i create for my hard drive?
[09:15] <ircnewb> label it whatever you want
[09:15] <ircnewb> haha jk
[09:16] <rcarr> hodden: But, checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:16] <rcarr> hodden: and look for anything that seems like it could be related to the lockup, and send it here if it doesn't clear up your problems for you
[09:17] <ircnewb> why is he using the fglrx driver? isn't it still buggy? mesa drivers are pretty good, unless you plan on gaming
[09:17] <hodden> ok I'll have a look at it and I'll  get back
[09:17] <rcarr> Ok, good luck
[09:17] <rcarr> and ircnewb, eye candy stuff requires direct rendering as well
[09:17] <rcarr> but fglrx is kind of buggy
[09:18] <ircnewb> true
[09:18] <ircnewb> nvidia have better support on their drivers imo
[09:18] <ircnewb> even on linux
[09:18] <rcarr> Yeah, they do
[09:18] <rcarr> the R300 ATI chipsets now have an open  source driver
[09:18] <rcarr> with DRI though
[09:18] <ircnewb> but we all know that ati pwns nvidia
[09:19] <ircnewb> still*
[09:19] <ircnewb> like amd pwns intel
[09:19] <rcarr> meh, I won't be buying any more ati cards
[09:20] <ircnewb> too expensive eh?
[09:20] <ircnewb> i agree
[09:20] <rcarr> No, just the poor linux support
[09:20] <ircnewb> ahaha
[09:20] <rcarr> I will probably go for an intel integrated
[09:20] <ircnewb> oh god
[09:20] <rcarr> Intel has good open source drivers
[09:20] <ircnewb> um..ya..but they don't benchmark as good
[09:20] <ircnewb> unless you don't plan on gaming
[09:20] <rcarr> Yeah, but I don't play games
[09:20] <ircnewb> cool :-)
[09:21] <ircnewb> i play games on console mostly...if i have time
[09:21] <ircnewb> waiting for gears of war
[09:21] <rcarr> Ah, I have seen limited amounts of information related to that
[09:21] <rcarr> Unreal 3 engine, right?
[09:21] <ircnewb> yeppers
[09:22] <rcarr> Interesting
[09:22] <ircnewb> it pwns the quake4 engine
[09:22] <rcarr> re-align: Gnometris
[09:22] <ircnewb> all quake4 had was that dam shader engine
[09:22] <ircnewb> i hate it
[09:22] <ircnewb> too dam dark
[09:22] <re-align> I
[09:23] <PURESKILLZZZ> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2394487
[09:23] <rcarr> re-align: On a more serious note, FreeCiv is supposed to be good if you like strategy type games
[09:23] <rcarr> re-align: TuxRacer (ppracer now I think) is a linux classic
[09:23] <rcarr> re-align:  nethack is a classic in general
[09:24] <ircnewb> oh i mess the old nes days
[09:24] <zyzy> are you available to play games on ubuntu or not ?! games like quake3 or something. i ask because i saw many screenshots with quake3 shortcut
[09:24] <ircnewb> i used to have a library of games
[09:24] <jimdaniels> SNES 4 life
[09:24] <ircnewb> snes did pwn though
[09:25] <ircnewb> i remember my first game...super mario world
[09:25] <ircnewb> then street fighter 2
[09:25] <re-align> I prefer strategy and simulation. Things like the Civilization series (played freeeciv), Orbiter (DirectX based space flight simulator), and things of that nature.
[09:25] <jimdaniels> i fink my first games were GB games
[09:25] <ircnewb> lol
[09:25] <zyzy> anyone here who can tell me please ?
[09:26] <zyzy> are you available to play games on ubuntu or not ?! games like quake3 or something. i ask because i saw many screenshots with quake3 shortcut
[09:26] <ircnewb> contra was my first nes game
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> Hey guys, the games talk would fit better in #ubuntu-offtopic (try to keep it to just support in here).
[09:26] <ircnewb> yea you can play quake3
[09:26] <ircnewb> under linux
[09:26] <rcarr> Zyzy: If there is a linux version of the game, yes, or if it runs under wine (www.winehq.com)
[09:26] <ircnewb> sorry tonyyarusso
[09:26] <zyzy> rcarr and with gnome you can ?
[09:27] <zyzy> sorry tonyyarusso , this will be the last question.
[09:27] <rcarr> zyzy: Sure
[09:27] <zyzy>  ok, thanks
[09:28] <rcarr> Mm, how long before he comes back asking how to set up video card drivers?
[09:28] <euxneks> hrm
[09:28] <euxneks> freaky
[09:28] <euxneks> ha
[09:28] <euxneks> I'm not used to this IRC client
[09:29] <ircnewb> time for venture bros
[09:29] <ircnewb> later guys
[09:34] <morbid88> Hello. I'm having trouble burning DVDs -- When I insert a blank DVD-R it doesn't show up, but blank CD-Rs do.
[09:35] <yakumo> hi pls help installing vcdImager
[09:36] <Flannel> yakumo: you need to have universe enabled, then just install it with your favorite package manager
[09:36] <yakumo> like apt-get install vcd imager
[09:36] <Mitsu> NickServ M1tsu
[09:37] <Ademan> is there any way to change your running window manager in the middle of an X session?
[09:37] <Flannel> yakumo: one work, sudo apt-get install vcdimager
[09:37] <rcarr> Yakumo, for the future, you can run apt-cache search vcdimager or if you aren't sure of the exact name vcd, etc etc
[09:38] <rcarr> to search the repos
[09:38] <yakumo> thnks
[09:38] <rcarr> and if you give apt a space it assumes youa re talking about multiple packages
[09:38] <yakumo> thats really help a lot
[09:38] <flasher> when does edgy come out?
[09:39] <flasher> where can i get flash 9 beta for linux?
[09:39] <BelialMkII> flasher, labs.adobe.com
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> flasher: 28th
[09:39] <BelialMkII> But i just removed it today
[09:39] <BelialMkII> Was playing hell with streaming video
[09:39] <Flannel> flasher: oct 26, and !flash9
[09:39] <flasher> you removed flash from your computer?
[09:39] <flasher> !flash9
[09:39] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[09:40] <Bensr20det> Can I make an icon on a panel change size when i move my mouse over them?
[09:40] <morbid88> hey there. If anyone answered me -- I'm sorry but I had to reboot.
[09:40] <morbid88> so could someone help me figure out why blank DVD-Rs don't show up on my desktop?
[09:42] <metatag> hello all! flash 9.0 beta is out!
[09:43] <metatag> btw how do we compile mpich programs on ubuntu? which commands to use?
[09:43] <morbid88> Anyone have any idea about the DVD-R drive not showing blanks?
[09:46] <Smotang> Wow this is the most silent i have seen this channel
[09:47] <rcarr> Way to ruin it Smotang
[09:47] <rcarr> we were having a moment of silence for err
[09:47] <rcarr> Gentoo users who die of starvation waiting for their install to finish
[09:47] <Smotang> haha
[09:47] <Smotang> For a moment there i didnt know if you were joking or not
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> ha
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> hi there
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> !
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> i already installed ubuntu 6.10
[09:48] <kenshin_ds> anyone can me help to install my vga drivers?
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> kenshin_ds: #ubuntu+1 for Edgy questions :)
[09:50] <Shadowthrone> How can I change the Firefox thumbnail from that silly globe into the fox?
[09:50] <kenshin_ds> tonyyarusso, thank u :)
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> What do I do to kill an app that's locked up?
[09:51] <Ignatius> sudo kill -9 pid
[09:51] <cafuego> Corporal_Dirge: right click the title bar, choose 'close'
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I get the pid?
[09:53] <Ignatius> ps ax | grep application
[09:53] <cafuego> Corporal_Dirge: Of run the system monitor
[09:53] <Corporal_Dirge> cafuego, Ok, thanks. System monitor did the trick.
[09:53] <rcarr> Corporal: in the future
[09:53] <rcarr> you can also run sudo killall -9 processname
[09:53] <rcarr> and bash 2 has tab completion on process names
[09:53] <cafuego> rcarr: sudo is not needed
[09:53] <Ignatius> it's a "shame" I never got into those graphical management tools :(
[09:53] <rcarr> so you just have to get the first few letters
[09:53] <cafuego> rcarr: and killall may have side effects
[09:53] <Corporal_Dirge> I'd need the process name though right?
[09:54] <rcarr> cafuego: It's not needed unless the process was running as root, which it could have been
[09:54] <rcarr> cafuego: I wasn't aware of any? I am curious however
[09:54] <AdamMK> is there a way to make so it always returns to previous session when switching to another user that's already logged in?
[09:55] <rcarr> Coporal_Dirge: Just the first few letters,  which you can almost always guess from the apps name, then hit tab and bash fills in the rest
[09:55] <cafuego> rcarr: imagine a multiuserbox with lots of people running <app> and someone running 'sudo killall <app>'
[09:55] <cyberix> Will there be a way for upgrading current LTS to the next LTS when it is released?
[09:55] <rcarr> cafuego: Ah, right, I wasn't thinking about a multiuser situation
[09:55] <Ademan> what's the name of the packages that has gksuexec in it?
[09:55] <cafuego> cyberix: I imagine so.
[09:55] <cafuego> rcarr: Without sudo it'd be fine.
[09:56] <YouBeOne> How many of you are going to stick with dapper LTS when edgy is released?
[09:56] <AdamMK> anyone? is there a way to make so it always returns to previous session when switching to another user that's already logged in?
[09:57] <rcarr> Yeah, I have more or less no experience in a multi user enviroment so things related to it don't occur to me
[09:57] <cafuego> YouBeOne: 511 of the 828 currently here
[09:57] <cafuego> rcarr: I cna be a BOFH so I on occasion do run such things to annoy users ;-)
[09:57] <YouBeOne> cafuego: how do you know that?
[09:57] <kenshin_ds> i got a problem installing fglrx drivers
[09:57] <kenshin_ds> anyone can help me?
[09:57] <cafuego> YouBeOne: Just guessing.
[09:57] <rcarr> We can try kenshin
[09:57] <rcarr> be more specific
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> well
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> the ubuntu tells me
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> that fglrx is installed
[09:58] <kenshin_ds> but when i type fglrxinfo
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> doesnt show my vga card
[09:59] <Ademan> how do you add a session type to the gnome display manager login?
[09:59] <rcarr> What do you mean ubuntu tells you fglrx is installed?
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> no errors
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> with dmesg
[09:59] <kenshin_ds> and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:00] <YouBeOne> I am running ubuntu k8-smp (64bit) and as far as I can tell there's lots of buggy stuff in the universal repositories!
[10:00] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: which does 'lspci | grep -i ati' say?
[10:00] <YouBeOne> Enough bugs to overload launchpad hehe
[10:00] <rcarr> ah, I thought you meant you had used some program that had given you the information
[10:00] <cafuego> YouBeOne: Hmmwell, 64bit isn't quite ready yet in terms of desktop (coz lots of stuff just don't work right)
[10:00] <kenshin_ds> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600
[10:01] <rcarr> what does fglrxinfo give you?
[10:01] <rcarr> specifically?
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[10:01] <YouBeOne> solution= buy the devs some cheap amd64 cpus?
[10:01] <rcarr> This is a fresh install, right?
[10:01] <YouBeOne> only kidding
[10:01] <kenshin_ds> fresh?
[10:02] <cafuego> YouBeOne: More a matter of kicking Sun & Adobe
[10:02] <kenshin_ds> u say apt-get install ?
[10:02] <rcarr> As in you just installed?
[10:02] <rcarr> I thought I remembered you saying you had just installed edgy eft
[10:02] <rcarr> around 30 minutes ago
[10:02] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: Did you install 'linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[10:02] <rcarr> because the most common thinng to give that result is libGL.so.1 being linked
[10:02] <kenshin_ds> cafuego, yeah, but i already the last version
[10:02] <rcarr> to the mesa version, rather than the fglrx version
[10:02] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: ... and confirue X to actually use the fglrx driver as opposed to ati...
[10:02] <rcarr> but, I don't see that happening if you just installed
[10:03] <rcarr> kenshin:
[10:03] <rcarr> LIBGL_DEBUG="verbose" fglrxinfo
[10:03] <rcarr> ?
[10:03] <gansinho> hello guys, after the announcement of the release candidate, is most likely that this is the final version of edgy? in that page, there are instructions, if I fallow them I'll lose the data in my home folder?
[10:04] <cafuego> gansinho: NO upgrade will erase data from /home. Only a fresh install will do that.
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, sorry buy i dont understand what u mean
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> cafuego,
[10:05] <rcarr> at a shell
[10:05] <dibblego> trying to configure a WPA-PSK wireless network - all these web pages tell me to do it through Network Manager (network-admin?) yet all I can see is the ability to configure a WEP key
[10:05] <rcarr> run
[10:05] <rcarr> LIBGL_DEUBG="verbose" fglrxinfo
[10:05] <gansinho> cafuego: and about my installed apps?
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable failed
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:05] <kenshin_ds> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[10:05] <rcarr> prefixing it with LIBGL_DEBUBG="verbose" sets the enviroment variable LIBGL_DEBUG to verbose, and fglrxinfo gives you more info
[10:05] <rcarr> ah, nothing new
[10:05] <cafuego> kenshin_ds: Did you just install fglrx or did you reconfigure X to tell it to use it as well?
[10:06] <kenshin_ds> i configure the xorrg.conf with aticonfig
[10:06] <cafuego> gansinho: It'll upgrade them where appropriate.
[10:06] <YouBeOne> What IRC clients are you guys btw?
[10:06] <Dextorion> irssi
[10:06] <kenshin_ds> im seeing here that the option OpenGLOverlay is off
[10:06] <kenshin_ds> i turn on?
[10:06] <YouBeOne> irssi?
[10:07] <unicat> hi
[10:07] <AdamMK> can some1 remind me again how to set up usernames and passwork for SMB folder sharing so i can share files with my windows comp?
[10:07] <Dextorion> YouBeOne: uhm.  ya
[10:07] <AdamMK> password*
[10:07] <dibblego> how do you configure WPA through "Network Manager" -- there simply isn't a way of configuring the WPA-PSK key
[10:07] <rcarr> Kenshin,
[10:07] <rcarr> I recall the problem now
[10:07] <kenshin_ds> i think that the problem is Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:07] <gansinho> cafuego: thank you very very much, I'll upgrade it now!
[10:07] <rcarr> You just upgraded to edgy, correct?
[10:07] <YouBeOne> Never heard of irssi
[10:07] <unicat> AdamMK, set security=user in smb.conf, and add user via smbpasswd -a username
[10:07] <rcarr> In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:08] <rcarr> add
[10:08] <rcarr> Section "Extensions"
[10:08] <rcarr> Option "Composite" "Disable"
[10:08] <Flannel> !tell dibblego about wpa
[10:08] <timalot> anyone know how to fix nautilus samba browsing? when i click windows network i get: "smb:///" is not a valid location.
[10:08] <rcarr> EndSection
[10:08] <rcarr> FGLRX disables dri with compositing enabled
[10:08] <rcarr> and it is enabled by default in edgy
[10:08] <AdamMK> ty
[10:09] <rcarr> err
[10:09] <dibblego> Flannel, can you confirm or deny - that you configure WPA through network-admin? there are conflicting documents
[10:09] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i reboot now?
[10:09] <rcarr> No
[10:09] <rcarr> just restart x, control+alt+backspace
[10:09] <rcarr> does the trick
[10:09] <rcarr> and brings you back to the login prompt
[10:09] <same> hi everybody
[10:09] <Dextorion> hey
[10:10] <same> who can help me please
[10:10] <rcarr> same
[10:10] <rcarr> no one knows if they can help you, unless you say what your problem is
[10:10] <same> install csim by net destop
[10:10] <Flannel> dibblego: use wpasupplicant, as per the WPA docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[10:10] <dibblego> Flannel, ok thans
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> check it out... a new Google service
[10:11] <rcarr> Kenshin, working now?
[10:11] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, thaaanks! its worked!
[10:11] <kenshin_ds> :D
[10:11] <rcarr> No problem
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> and wouldn't you know it, it's for windows users.
[10:11] <rcarr> If you have an ati card
[10:11] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i got a little "arthefacts"
[10:11] <rcarr> with the R300 chipset
[10:11] <rcarr> I suggest using the "Radeon" driver, unless you are a heavy gamer or something
[10:11] <same> i want install csim ,but idon't  know how to do it
[10:11] <rcarr> it has direct rendering support, as well
[10:12] <YouBeOne> Dextorion: are you running irssi in a terminal?
[10:12] <same> would you help me by  net destop
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i will use to play games here
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, cause that i wanted
[10:12] <rcarr> and you can use compositing with it, so you can use things like Berl and Compiz without XGL
[10:12] <rcarr> ah, stick with FGLRX then
[10:12] <Dextorion> YouBeOne: yup
[10:12] <rcarr> I'm not sure about the artifacts
[10:12] <same> I had start net destop
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, i will got a ps
[10:12] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, wait a sec
[10:12] <rcarr> Ok
[10:13] <YouBeOne> Anyone know the best IRC client with a GUI?
[10:13] <Flannel> !best
[10:13] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:13] <YouBeOne> hmmm
[10:14] <Flannel> YouBeOne: xchat-gnome is in main
[10:14] <kenshin_ds> i will take another, that is not so good
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> And xchat the regular one is in universe
[10:14] <rcarr> You mean the brown lines
[10:14] <rcarr> in fgl_glxgears?
[10:14] <gansinho> cafuego: one last question, xgl/beryl is working now, It will be working after upgrading?
[10:14] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, yeah
[10:14] <YouBeOne> how does xchat compare to chatzilla?
[10:15] <rcarr> On the subject of IRC clients, I find xchat and konversation to be suffecient
[10:15] <YouBeOne> in terms of functionality
[10:15] <alp> i recently dist-upgraded a remote dapper system with a custom kernel to edgy. following a reboot, the kernel now panics and is unable to mount the root filesystem (unknown) .. anyone familiar with the early boot stage know why this might happen?
[10:15] <rcarr> and konversation can be controlled via dcop which is nice for small scripts
[10:15] <shriphani> am gonna meet richard stallman today
[10:15] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, yeah the brown lines
[10:15] <rcarr> Mm, kenshin, thinking
[10:15] <shriphani> well not exactly meet
[10:15] <rcarr> shriphani: Tell him you are a "linux" user
[10:15] <rcarr> make sure to leave out GNU
[10:15] <shriphani> rcarr, lol
[10:16] <rcarr> then say linux over and over and dance in circles around him
[10:17] <rcarr> and ask when hurd is going ot be finished
[10:17] <shriphani> well he is giving a speech here
[10:17] <rcarr> On a more serious note, neat
[10:17] <mypapit> offline!!!!
[10:17] <rcarr> Stallman is interesting
[10:17] <shriphani> yeh
[10:17] <rcarr> he is a bit polarizing though and alienates a lot of people
[10:17] <rcarr> as a result
[10:17] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, at least its working, on gentoo, fgl_glxgears simply freezes my system
[10:17] <kenshin_ds> :P
[10:17] <kuh-emu> installparty with richard installman? :)
[10:17] <shriphani> rcarr, does the man give autographs ?
[10:17] <DMC1> Hey guys
[10:17] <DMC1> I need help
[10:17] <rcarr> No clue shriphani
[10:17] <shriphani> rcarr, would like one
[10:17] <Ignatius> DMC1: what is it?
[10:17] <shriphani> the thinghe has under his belt
[10:17] <alp> shriphani: at his recent talks he has charged donations for autographs
[10:18] <DMC1> Ignatius, Ubuntu hasn't configured my video card correctly
[10:18] <shriphani> emacs, gcc
[10:18] <rcarr> kenshin: I have no experience with artifacting personally, and everything on google says it is a non fixed problem
[10:18] <shriphani> alp, what ?
[10:18] <Ignatius> DMC1: so problems with resolution?
[10:18] <rcarr> Kenshin: See if it shows up in other applications
[10:18] <rcarr> shriphani: Yes, only GCC could redeem him after creating Emacs
[10:18] <alp> shriphani: you pay him for autographs
[10:18] <DMC1> Ignatius, problems with resolution and refresh rates
[10:18] <DMC1> Ignatius, it just installed generic drivers which are also quite slow
[10:19] <Ignatius> DMC1: and the card manufacturer was...? and model?
[10:19] <DMC1> s3 virge
[10:19] <shriphani> alp, does the man have a reason
[10:19] <Ignatius> ouch, sounds bad
[10:19] <rcarr> shriphani: His job is to go around speaking basically
[10:19] <rcarr> that's the only way he makes money
[10:19] <rcarr> that and prizes
[10:19] <shriphani> like macarthur
[10:19] <DMC1> Ignatius, any suggestions?
[10:19] <shriphani> the 240k he got
[10:20] <Ignatius> DMC1: just scrolling through the forums for one.
[10:20] <DMC1> Thanks
[10:20] <rcarr> On the subject of Stallman, GPL 3 is frustrating
[10:20] <shriphani> so anything other than listening to a man thrashing a redmond corp is worth payment ?
[10:21] <timalot> whats wrong with GPL v3 ?
[10:21] <shriphani> how costly is taking a photo ?
[10:21] <alp> have other people come in here with problems relating to the new libuuid use in the edgy boot process?
[10:21] <rcarr> It seems to be too restrictive
[10:21] <Ignatius> DMC1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269811&highlight=resolution+problem seems nice enough
[10:21] <rcarr> I would personally prefer sometehing like the BSD license for most userland applications
[10:21] <DMC1> Thanks Ignatius
[10:22] <shriphani> i never saw any linuxer in my life
[10:22] <DMC1> Ignatius, any tips for using .rpm files?
[10:22] <shriphani> DMC1, alien
[10:22] <shriphani> alien -i package.rpm
[10:22] <DMC1> What is alien?
[10:22] <kupesoft> what's the best way to look at porn on ubuntu?
[10:22] <shriphani> !alien
[10:22] <kupesoft> JUST KIDDING
[10:22] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[10:22] <rcarr> By using the mplayer ascii output
[10:22] <LedStyle> Hey guys. Were can i repport a bug in Ubuntu Installer of the Edgy-Desktop?
[10:23] <rcarr> savint the ascii to a giant text file
[10:23] <rcarr> and scrolling down really quickly
[10:23] <rcarr> Have fun with that!
[10:23] <kupesoft> When's edgy coming out?
[10:23] <tristan> IS Edgy out?
[10:23] <Ignatius> DMC1: you are welcome, yeah that alien program is quite nice, but try to find corresponding .deb's for a change :)
[10:23] <rcarr> 26th
[10:24] <apokryphos> kupesoft: /msg ubotu schedule
[10:24] <shriphani> btw i gota say the bonx hangs too frequently
[10:24] <LedStyle> someone?
[10:24] <apokryphos> tristan: /msg ubotu schedule
[10:24] <tristan> apokryphos, done
[10:24] <YouBeOne> kupesoft: In case you weren't joking amule can suffice
[10:24] <rcarr> ledstyle: Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[10:24] <apokryphos> tristan: check the message ubotu just sent you
[10:25] <tristan> apokryphos, done thank you
[10:25] <LedStyle> rcarr, tks... will try
[10:25] <tristan> It's because I went on the kubuntu and thought it was out but it is release candidate 1
[10:25] <LedStyle> rcarr, do u know the name of the "installer" package?
[10:25] <tristan> Do you know if we will to reinstall Beryl after upgrading to Edgy?
[10:26] <re-align> Anyone here use WINE?
[10:26] <rcarr> I don't LedStyle, I just saw it in a bug report a few days ago as well
[10:26] <rcarr> I used to use wine re-align, I may be able to help
[10:26] <YouBeOne> re-align: yes
[10:26] <Ignatius> re-align: I guess quite a few many ppl. atleast I do sometimes
[10:27] <NetDog> rcarr: how do you change the login or ubuntu greeter?
[10:27] <menko> hi, what is the first file which is "read" or run before when you use sudo to run a program? I want to set some environment variables for every program I open with sudo.
[10:27] <rcarr> NetDog: You mean the login screen theme?
[10:27] <re-align> I am trying to run a program that requires access tgo files in its directory and subdirectories, simply double clicking on it in the gnome file browser doesn't seem to aloow it access to these things.
[10:27] <rcarr> NetDog: I recall you saying you used GDM, I think you can find gdm themes at www.gnome-look.org
[10:28] <rcarr> and they should include installation instructions
[10:28] <Ignatius> re-align: sounds like simple chmod-job for me?
[10:28] <NetDog> rcarr: no i mean, using either a console as a greeter or a different gui greeter
[10:28] <re-align> No write access to my ntfs partition
[10:28] <YouBeOne> By the way Songbird 0.2 is out it's a media player based on firefox
[10:28] <rcarr> Ah
[10:29] <rcarr> well, if you wanted to use somethingg like KDM
[10:29] <rcarr> it asks you if you want to make it the default when you install it
[10:29] <Ignatius> re-align: whatwhaat? ntfs? that's unholy.
[10:30] <rcarr> Err, the previous 3 lines were at NetDog
[10:30] <re-align> Ignatius, I agree, but I didn't know any better when I first put Windows on...
[10:30] <kenshin_ds> rcarr, im trying to install warcraft3 here :D
[10:31] <YouBeOne> kenshin: Installing wc3 is the easiest thing to do with wine ever!
[10:31] <Ignatius> that's ok. we all are.
[10:31] <timalot> re-align: there is a mount option to set the file ownership
[10:31] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne, i know but on gentoo it doesnt work
[10:31] <kenshin_ds> now im trying on ubuntu
[10:31] <kenshin_ds> :D
[10:31] <YouBeOne> kenshin: no such thing
[10:32] <YouBeOne> kenshin: all you do is set wine to windowsxp or 98 and install away then you start it with: wine <pathttoexe> -opengl
[10:33] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne, im following a tutorial
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Anyway, if you wanted to juust have a console greeter
[10:33] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne,
[10:33] <kenshin_ds> doesnt need to change a value on wine cfg?
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Check what runlevel your system boots, to by running the command "runlevel"
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Then in /etc/rcn.d
[10:33] <rcarr> Netdog: Where n is the run level from the command
[10:34] <YouBeOne> kenshin: use the wine configuration gui
[10:34] <rcarr> Netdog: Remove the symbolic link to gdm
[10:34] <YouBeOne> kenshin: I think it's wineconfig or something
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> winecfg
[10:34] <LedStyle> rcarr, done. Now were can i see my bugs posted?
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> but look
[10:34] <YouBeOne> kenshin: right
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> Edite o arquivo ~/.wine/user.reg
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> Adicione:
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> "Gfx OpenGL"=dword:00000001
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> na chave:
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> [Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Warcraft III] 
[10:34] <NetDog> thank rcarr
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> edit the file ~/.wine/user.reg
[10:34] <rcarr> Nettdog: No problem
[10:34] <kenshin_ds> Add "Gfx ..... "
[10:35] <LedStyle> rcarr, found
[10:35] <kenshin_ds> in key [software....
[10:35] <kenshin_ds> you do that YouBeOne ?
[10:35] <YouBeOne> kenshin: never had to do such a thing
[10:35] <rcarr> LedStyle: I was typing a response as you said that, hehe
[10:35] <kenshin_ds> YouBeOne, so i will trying without do that hehe :D
[10:35] <rcarr> Speaking of wine kenshin
[10:35] <rcarr> don't use the version in the repos, if you are
[10:35] <LedStyle> rcarr, hehe https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67082
[10:35] <rcarr> that's my generic wine warning
[10:36] <YouBeOne> kenshin: maybe your problem is related to wine not finding the cd?
[10:36] <rcarr> it tends to be woefully outdated
[10:36] <rcarr> www.winehq.com has a link to an ubuntu repository that stays updated
[10:37] <rcarr> LedStyle: Odd bug
[10:37] <YouBeOne> rcarr: you don't need latest wine to install wc3
[10:37] <DMC1> Ignatius, it didn't help
[10:37] <rcarr> It can't hurt though
[10:37] <rcarr> and I have no doubt the latest one is more stable
[10:37] <DMC1> I followed the instructions on that posting and still exactly the same
[10:37] <YouBeOne> rcarr: yes it can you might run into a regression
[10:38] <LedStyle> rcarr, its a bug really flat
[10:38] <rcarr> I guess you are right, wine doesn't have many regressions anymore though
[10:38] <yhy> anyone get the problem of gaim in edgy?
[10:38] <yhy> i cant see the sys tray of gaim
[10:38] <LedStyle> rcarr, now im downloading the Alternate CD... i wish this works
[10:38] <YouBeOne> rcarr: with the exception of world of warcraft that broke latest wine after a blizzard update and then would only work on an older version with custom params?
[10:39] <yhy> so i cant focus on it
[10:39] <rcarr> LedStyle: Good luck
[10:39] <LedStyle> rcarr, and theres another too... look: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67084
[10:39] <akifemre> !g++
[10:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:39] <rcarr> YouBeOne: I wasn't saying it doesn't happen, I was just noting it is pretty rare nowdays
[10:40] <rcarr> LedStyle: good catch
[10:41] <disturboresiduo> how i can upgrade my ubuntu 606->610 with terminal and from cd?thanks
[10:41] <yhy> although i've enable the plug "sys tray
[10:41] <rcarr> I wonder how Sao Paulo as GMT-2 is still in there
[10:41] <rcarr> disturboresiduo: you can replace all occurences of dapper with edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <LedStyle> rcarr, :D
[10:42] <disturboresiduo> but i havent internet
[10:42] <rcarr> disturboresiduo: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/dapper/edgy/ig;' /etc/apt/sources.list does that for you
[10:42] <rcarr> Ah, but you do have a CD?
[10:42] <disturboresiduo> yes with edgy
[10:42] <rcarr> I think in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <rcarr> you can add a "deb-cd" repository
[10:43] <rcarr> with the location being where the cd is mounted
[10:43] <rcarr> then run apt-get update, andapt-get dist-upgrade
[10:43] <rcarr> but no gurantee of that working
[10:43] <rcarr> It's 4:47, I need sleep
[10:43] <disturboresiduo> how can i to add cd repository?
[10:43] <rcarr> goodnight everyone
[10:44] <rcarr> disturboresiduo:
[10:44] <rcarr> it is somethingg like
[10:44] <yhy> goodnight rcarr
[10:44] <rcarr> deb-cd /media/cdrom0 or whatever the path to your cd is
[10:44] <rcarr> check google for specifics
[10:45] <shriphani> rcarr, eww i have just a pad to ask stallman for an autograph
[10:45] <constrictor> disturboresiduo: go to system -> admin -> software properties and you can add cd easily
[10:46] <rcarr> Ask if you can touch his .emacs shriphani!
[10:46] <rcarr> ok, goodnight for real now
[10:46] <shriphani> umm   and i havent the money he wants
[10:46] <shriphani> $3!! i am 15 with no pocket money
[10:47] <StyXman> hi all. right now I'm running a live kubuntu. is there any way to put the "session" in a pendrive?
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> aw
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> :(
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> warcraft3 frozen here :(
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> doesnt work
[10:48] <kenshin_ds> i think that could be anything with resolution
[10:49] <tnnc> can someone tell me what might be causing edgy install to lock up the machine from cd install
[10:49] <disturboresiduo> i have do it
[10:49] <StyXman> tnnc: hw problems. did you run memtest on the machine?
[10:50] <tnnc> styxman no i didnt 1 gig mem in it plus i have 606 on it before
[10:50] <nulix> hello ! ; I am testing Edgy ; what is the point in fstab to replace typical mount point ie : /dev:sda1 by UUID=.....
[10:50] <jimdaniels> nulix do /join #ubuntu+q
[10:51] <jimdaniels> nulix do /join #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <nulix> jimdaniels : thanks I will
[10:52] <StyXman> tnnc: I mean, the ram could be borked
[10:52] <StyXman> tnnc: ah, and yes, you better join #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[10:52] <tnnc> styxman well it was ok till 2 mins ago the men so not sure
[10:53] <lajka> hi all.
[10:53] <winterweaver> Hi everyone !! ^.^
[10:53] <lajka> hi. what's up?
[10:53] <winterweaver> doesn't seem like much :P
[10:54] <mnepton> my nipples. it's freezing.
[10:54] <lajka> and are you english?
[10:54] <s_spiff> hey, any howto's on how to go about spicing up the desktop? the human themes the usual stuff is quite a drab sometimes.
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> i resolved with repository cd
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> I have launch
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> but terminal tell me this:
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> The following packages have unment dependecies:
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> xerver-xorg: Depends: xkb-data but it is not istallable or xkb-data-legacy which is a virtual package.
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> and other...
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> How can i do?
[10:54] <disturboresiduo> Thanks
[10:55] <winterweaver> does anyone have any info for me on why my GAIM keeps disconnecting.... (does this mainly with google)
[10:56] <lajka> goodi! so much people!
[10:56] <Corporal_Dirge> What's a Zombie in System Monitor?... Something that can't be killed?
[10:56] <timothy_> anyone know why steam wont work with wine?
[10:56] <Acke_ubu> hey, i have a very anoying problem.. how do i set the  keyshortcuts to disabled in the keyboard shortcuts app?
[10:56] <lajka> i'dt no.
[10:57] <kenshin_ds> anyone can help me?
[10:57] <lajka> sorry, i would like, but I can't.
[10:57] <winterweaver> s_spiff, Check out http://art.gnome.org ... you can drag and drop the themes directly onto your Theme Manager... really easy to install new themes
[10:58] <s_spiff> winterweaver, yup. already tried that. buts that too gets boring after sometime i was searching something alsong these lines: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112333
[10:58] <winterweaver> s_spiff, you might also want to check out XGL, but not if you wanna play games.... there are some nice demo's of XGL on Youtube and Google
[11:00] <lajka> hi.
[11:00] <s_spiff> winterweaver, i don play games on linux.. ig ot windows for that :( some how wine and CS never worked for me.
[11:00] <TheCarl> I recently installed the game 'Atlantik' and it keeps on crashing on me when I'm in a game, any advice?
[11:00] <lajka> hi. shell we give a party here? virtual?
[11:00] <s_spiff> hey can i boot into windows installed on a certain partition of my hdd using wine in ubuntu DD amd64?
[11:00] <lajka> certenly.
[11:00] <lajka> of course.
[11:00] <winterweaver> hmmm... lol... I think you're too ambitious ... lol
[11:00] <patient> Hi lajka, how u'r?
[11:00] <mnepton> s_spiff: WINE is an API emulator, not a virtualization schema
[11:01] <lajka> hi, its all good, and you?
[11:01] <s_spiff> mnepton, oks. i thot it woudlnt work.. but just was wondering.
[11:02] <lajka> is there ewery speaker for linux for blind useres?
[11:02] <patient> Fine thanks
[11:03] <patient> I don't know
[11:03] <winterweaver> timothy_: Steam with wine should work, I've seen guys do it... but you should know that Ubuntu is subject to what they call the 26% bug.... :P It downloads the steam updates up to about 26% and then bugs out... there are ways to get it fixed, but that I'm not familiar with
[11:03] <patient> may be should ask at ubuntuguide
[11:03] <Zaggynl> Indeed steam works with wine, there's a guide about it somewhere
[11:04] <cheesy> morgen
[11:04] <lajka> morgen. bist du deutsch?
[11:04] <cheesy> good morning
[11:04] <cheesy> yes
[11:04] <Zaggynl> this command should start Steam again after it bugs out at 26%: 'wine SteamTmp.exe SelfUpdate "C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" 14'
[11:05] <lajka> ich bin ungarisch. schn dich hier zu sehen.
[11:05] <cheesy> i need a driver for the lexmark optra s2450 (printer)
[11:05] <cheesy> does anyone know where i get one?
[11:05] <lajka> www.origo.hu/szoftverbazis
[11:06] <cheesy> lajka:  that's ungarisch...
[11:06] <lajka> sss
[11:07] <lajka> so a popular server I had never seen.
[11:08] <whyso> how do i get the mplayer plugin for firfox?
[11:08] <cheesy> i find my way trough
[11:08] <lajka> you get real player, and with it.
[11:09] <cheesy> is *.nsf the driver?
[11:09] <whyso> huh, player firefox plugin comes with realplayer?
[11:09] <lajka> yes. you get driverkeres.
[11:09] <lajka> yes.
[11:09] <whyso> k tyanx
[11:10] <lajka> who is the c.o?
[11:11] <umbro> c.o? don't zou mean CEO?
[11:11] <patient> who is the c.o?
[11:11] <whyso> Depends: xlibs  but it is not installable
[11:11] <whyso> howtofix?
[11:11] <lajka> channel oparator. der channel chef, dachte ich.
[11:13] <quantumdot> hello, i need a little help
[11:13] <lajka> say.
[11:13] <quantumdot> thx :)
[11:14] <cheesy> that was easy
[11:14] <quantumdot> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop
[11:14] <quantumdot> and
[11:14] <lajka> and?
[11:14] <quantumdot> i would like to import all my settings (passwds, etc) for firefox and thunderbird from another system of mine
[11:14] <usuario> dani_punta
[11:14] <quantumdot> is that possible?
[11:15] <lajka> it shell be given a transfer with much computers, I think.
[11:15] <patient> Hi kyja, where have u been?
[11:15] <quantumdot> can i just copy on .mozilla/... those fileS?
[11:15] <heikki> i'm not sure but maybe you only have to copy your ~/.mozilla and ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[11:15] <lajka> yes. or install real player, and its come with it.
[11:16] <quantumdot> lajka: ?
[11:16] <lajka> yes?
[11:16] <quantumdot> what has real player to do with my question?
[11:16] <kenshin_ds> hi
[11:16] <heikki> hi
[11:16] <kenshin_ds> anyone can help me with a freeze problem?
[11:17] <kenshin_ds> with wine
[11:17] <quantumdot> i just want to transfer all the prefs and passwd i have for firfox from a windows system to my ubunto install
[11:17] <lajka> it is so, if you install, at the and of the installation is that it downloaded the firefox, and you can download. or get it with a torrent.
[11:17] <lajka> or I can send you too.
[11:18] <lajka> firefox, I meen. but better is, then you install opera.
[11:18] <quantumdot> i like firefox lajka
[11:18] <quantumdot> and i have no probl with the installation, that is simple
[11:18] <lajka> shell I give you, as well as file sending?
[11:18] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: firefox's cool ! :)
[11:19] <quantumdot> i want to tranfer my settings from my windows system so  i dont have to enter all my passes for sites, etc
[11:19] <hastesaver> quantumdot, do you have both parttions?
[11:19] <quantumdot> it's a different machine
[11:19] <quantumdot> no partitions
[11:19] <hastesaver> quantumdot, so you can't access it directly?
[11:19] <heikki> quantumdot: read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=261394
[11:19] <quantumdot> i was wondering IF i could copy the prefs files on .mozilla/ with no trouble
[11:20] <quantumdot> hello NTH :)
[11:20] <hastesaver> quantumdot, I was wondering if you could use Firefox's Import Wizard (because that's the safest way, usually)...
[11:20] <lajka> aha. sorry. transfer setting is the heavyest think to do.
[11:20] <quantumdot> is there a firefox import wizard?
[11:20] <NTH> Hi Quantundot
[11:20] <quantumdot> nth what are you doing here?
[11:20] <hastesaver> quantumdot, yes, but it's inside Firefox.
[11:20] <quantumdot> :P
[11:20] <quantumdot> hastesaver: let me check
[11:20] <Daemonik> I want to install a specific version of a package without using adept or synaptic, but using the terminal. What's the syntax to do this?
[11:21] <lajka> ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[11:21] <quantumdot> hastesaver: that wizard is to import from other browsers you already have installed
[11:21] <quantumdot> not serving for my purpose
[11:21] <hastesaver> quantumdot, yes, I realised that just now. It's quite useless, agreed
[11:21] <NTH> quantumdot: I downloaded a live cd of ubuntu but never got on with it
[11:22] <quantumdot> i have my mozilla on a different machine and want to avoid the waste of time of setting all up again
[11:22] <whyso> i think i added a wrong repository in synaptic... now its frozen, is there a way to help?
[11:22] <hastesaver> Daemonik, You want the version in the repositories or an entirely different version altogether?
[11:22] <lajka> link cable.
[11:22] <lajka> infra port.
[11:22] <lajka> total commander.
[11:22] <quantumdot> NTH i installed on my old laptop, too slow for windows
[11:22] <lajka> total commander?
[11:23] <NTH> quantumdot: for a windows guy it was a shock, but I should do the same I have an old laptop
[11:23] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: try copying everything from your progra~1/mozilla-firefox/preference/ to ~quantumdot first.
[11:23] <quantumdot> yes hutchGuy
[11:23] <hastesaver> quantumdot, you could use Google Browser Sync ;-)
[11:23] <quantumdot> i am afraid the keys will be wrong
[11:24] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: is it winxp or pre-winxp ?
[11:24] <quantumdot> firefox and thundebird encrypt the passwd and that's where my troubles might start
[11:24] <lajka> keygen.
[11:24] <quantumdot> winXP
[11:24] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: are you using smbfs or cifs ?
[11:24] <infinito> does anyone know why xchat opens weblinks on epiphany instead of firefox?
[11:24] <quantumdot> i doubt i can just copy the prefs and files form win to linux
[11:24] <hutchGuy> yes you can.
[11:24] <quantumdot> no hutchGuy
[11:24] <cobelloy> hi, anyone ever use vlc to stream video from one machine to another on a network?
[11:24] <quantumdot> can i?
[11:25] <hastesaver> infinito, do sudo update-alternatives (or whatever) to change gnome-www-browser
[11:25] <cobelloy> I cant seem to get it to work
[11:25] <quantumdot> what about the encryted pass?
[11:25] <hutchGuy> mount -ro -t smbfs //you_winxp_share/sharename /media/winxpshare/
[11:25] <hastesaver> infinito, or, if you want the literal answer to "why", it's because the default browser is set to Epiphany
[11:25] <hutchGuy> quantumdot: go to ubuntu menu
[11:26] <infinito> hastesaver: strange, 'cause in preferences i have selected firefox as my default browser, but in alternatives it's epiphany
[11:26] <quantumdot> i will try to deploy the prefs dirs from my windows machine into .mozilla/firefox ... but i doubt it will work
[11:26] <infinito> harmental: thanks anyway
[11:26] <cheesy> i doesnt get my printer to work (Lexmark Optra S2450). can someone help me getting the drivers?
[11:26] <hastesaver> infinito, yeah, some strange mess. Got it fixed?
[11:26] <hutchGuy> quantumdot, doubt is always a doubt until you try it
[11:26] <hastesaver> Wow, proves that if you ignore the troll, it goes away
[11:27] <harmental> infinito: youre welcome.....(???)
[11:27] <jimdaniels> the gnome?
[11:27] <jimdaniels> or the troll
[11:27] <jimdaniels> lol
[11:27] <infinito> hastesaver: in fact, it keeps opening epiphany...
[11:28] <cobelloy> or anyone know a better channel to find answers regarding streaming video using vlc (except #vlc, of course)
[11:28] <hastesaver> infinito, I think you need to restart xchat. (or maybe even restart GNOME by logging out and back...)
[11:29] <Ubuntu2324> Hi, I'm trying to play DVDs but it seems the stock Totern movie player is refusing to. The error it gives me is:
[11:29] <Ubuntu2324> Totem cannot play this type of media (tmw_aspect_ratio_square_menu_item) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it
[11:29] <Ubuntu2324> Has anyone had this problem? Or know of a solution?
[11:29] <cheesy> i just didn't get it..i found it directly at the lexmark page
[11:29] <infinito> hastesaver: weird, x-www-browser was set to epiphany as well.... i dont know what is the preferences dialog about browser setup for
[11:29] <hutchGuy> !dvd
[11:29] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:29] <hastesaver> quantumdot, http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ seems to be an easy way. Use it once, then delete the extension :)
[11:31] <gansinho> please, I'm updating to edgy  using "gksudo "update-manager -c -d"" could someone help me with this : http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkr5.png please?
[11:31] <ekidu> how to unactivate apache2 for a long time, without having to remove it ?
[11:32] <hastesaver> ekidu, how long is a "long time"?
[11:32] <ekidu> hastesaver: for more than one session
[11:32] <quantumdot> hastesaver: hey this looks just like the one I was looking for!
[11:32] <hastesaver> ekidu, if you want to manually stop it, it is "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop". It will start again the next time you reboot
[11:32] <matiu> How can I generate a ppd for my photo printer?
[11:33] <Willster> does anyone know of an equivalent to d-tools in linux? i have found a couple apps (acetoneiso, kiso...) but none that get around the safedisc protection
[11:33] <cafuego> hastesaver: he was after 'udpate-rc.d -f apache2' remove I think.
[11:34] <hastesaver> cafuego, he said "without removing it"... It wasn't clear what that meant :-)
[11:35] <hastesaver> cafuego, BTW, how do you add it back after it is removed once? I don't know....
[11:35] <gansinho> cafuego, I was trying to update that way when this http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkr5.png happened, could you help me?
[11:36] <Auckland_Pig> !tramp
[11:36] <ubotu> tramp: remote file access in Emacs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.51-2 (dapper), package size 252 kB, installed size 964 kB
[11:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, got popups?
[11:39] <Auckland_Pig> i'm trying to use tramp with emacs... but it ftp's rather than ssh'ing... why is that?
[11:39] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I got one pop up, the print screen is in this page http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkr5.png
[11:39] <Auckland_Pig> !emacs
[11:39] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[11:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, thats a real bummer.
[11:39] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: sorry I do not speak english as a native language, what's a bummer?
[11:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, it is an american slang term for something that makes you feel bad emotionally
[11:39] <kenshin_ds> DAMN !!
[11:40] <quantumdot> ~dict bummer
[11:40] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: yes its a bummer...
[11:40] <kenshin_ds> my ubuntu freezes when i start any opengl application
[11:40] <kenshin_ds> gansinho, pvt plz
[11:40] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: is there any oher way to update?
[11:40] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, you can use apt-get
[11:41] <whyso> totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:41] <C-O-L-T> can I use webcam and voice  chat with yahoo clients? Is there any application which does this? I know that gaim does not does  at all
[11:41] <whyso> how do i fix? (trying to install totem gstreamer)
[11:41] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I'll lose my /home this way?
[11:41] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> I forgot the command for apt to update your system, I think its apt-get upgrade but done quote me on it, read the manual
[11:41] <whyso> yes it is
[11:41] <whyso> sudo first tho bugga
[11:41] <gansinho> bubba
[11:41] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, no, apt is a tool , that gui thing is just a frontend for apt I think
[11:41] <gansinho> not bugga
[11:41] <gansinho> =p
[11:42] <whyso> hehe typo :)
[11:42] <whyso> anyone have an idea on the firefox thing?
[11:42] <ulinskie> http://www.aptana.com <-- open source dreamweaver alternative
[11:42] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: the only way to lose info is from a fresh install right?
[11:43] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, god no, theres loads of ways to lose your data, but updating your system with apt shouldnt be one of them - heres the problem though - if you run into that issue with the GUI tool theres a decent chance youll run into it with apt
[11:43] <whyso> never mind fixed it!!
[11:43] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> but it doesnt hurt to try
[11:43] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: i'll try now
[11:43] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, you can do yahoo webcam with gyach-enhanced
[11:43] <Administrator> are there already ubuntu edgy images?
[11:44] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: what is that ? gyach?
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, its enhanced!
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> not regular ole gyach
[11:44] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I don't really know what is gyach that is the problem
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[11:44] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> check out the website
[11:44] <gansinho> whyso:  sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't had effect... I should have any repos?
[11:45] <hastesaver> gansinho, maybe everything is already up-to-date
[11:45] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> whats with all the administrators anyhow?
[11:45] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> im starting to feel a little inadequate
[11:46] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: anyway i have another problem too, can not call with skype. So I can hear the presons but they can not hear me. I think it is a driver problem, my sound card is a rare one I use a Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop. And I can not configure my microphone at all. I use the latest version of skype
[11:46] <gansinho> the command I was using was gksudo "update-manager -c -d" in the terminal, but doing this I had the bug ... =/
[11:46] <[h] tony|afk> moinmoin
[11:47] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, I don't know about that, sorry, google is your pal for that
[11:47] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I have searched a lot but nothing
[11:47] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, I always use alsamixer and not the GUI mixer if thats any help
[11:47] <whyso> gansinho: you use sudo apt-get update first
[11:48] <Ubuntu2324> U CANOT B SIRIS
[11:48] <whyso> ?
[11:48] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: can I get this gyach thing in repos?
[11:48] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, no.
[11:49] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, it isnt gyach , its gyach-enhanced
[11:49] <gansinho> whyso:  I do, the output in ugrade is the same
[11:50] <C-O-L-T> BubbaTheLoveSpon: it works if I convert the gyach enhanced rpms to deb and install in that way?
[11:50] <whyso> ? hmm shouldnt be
[11:50] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> C-O-L-T, no.
[11:50] <whyso> sry im no expert sorry
[11:50] <gansinho> the command "update-manager -c -d" this -c -d has something to do ... maybe some command in apt-get ...
[11:50] <gansinho> whyso: thanks anyway! =)
[11:51] <torpor> hi all
[11:52] <torpor> is this the right place to ask questions about Ubuntu-PPC?  i want to install Ubuntu on my 17" powerbook ..
[11:52] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> nice
[11:52] <gnomefreak> torpor: yes
[11:52] <torpor> ok
[11:53] <torpor> so i've freed up some disk space under OSX (moved my itunes music lib to a new ipod) and now i want to know if it will work for me to 'resize' the partition .. do i have to defrag somehow first?
[11:53] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: thanks anyway
[11:53] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, why not just use apt-get?
[11:53] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I need to sleep, I've already bug repported that, bb
[11:53] <torpor> i really don't want to have to re-install my current OSX setup because its full of all the things i need for work (dev tools/etc).  so i'm hoping that ubuntu will somehow let me just resize the partition and install on 20gigs that are free ..
[11:53] <unicat> hm cant i mix dapper and edgy?
[11:53] <unicat> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[11:53] <unicat> E: Error occurred while processing yank (NewVersion1)
[11:53] <unicat> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages
[11:53] <gnomefreak> unicat: you dont want to mix dapper and edgy
[11:53] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon:  I used...=/ same output: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:54] <hastesaver> torpor,  while you wait for a proper answer:  I'm not an expert, but I would use OSX's partition resizer if it has one
[11:54] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, what needs to be upgraded then?
[11:54] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> heck if I had an osx capable box, i'd just run osx
[11:55] <torpor> i want to dual-boot OSX and linux .. i develop for both linux and OSX, and i want to get rid of one of my machines and just use my powerbook for coding for both systems..
[11:55] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: my os!
[11:55] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> gansinho, i sure would like to give that a shot
[11:57] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> i should be able to try it on THIS box, its supposedly capable of doing those hacked osx builds for x86
[11:57] <gansinho> BubbaTheLoveSpon: thanks for the help, i need to go anyway, bb, and thanks for your patience
[11:57] <torpor> okay so i'm going to just go ahead and try and do this ubuntu-ppc instsall .. wish me luck!
[11:57] <hastesaver> torpor, doesn't OS X allow you to resize from within?
[11:57] <hastesaver> heck, Windows did...
[12:03] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> hastesaver, no, windows doesn't let you resize either I dont think
[12:04] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, I used some "Disk Administration" or "Disk Management" or something.... it was quite a few months ago since I deleted Windows; I don't remember the naem :)
[12:04] <llama32> how well is creative's zen range supported on linux? should i expect any problems?
[12:04] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> hastesaver, that doesnt let you resize. Itll let you format and delete and the such
[12:04] <tarelerulz> any of you use swat  in  Ubuntu
[12:05] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, No, it let me create free space.
[12:05] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, Oh, I understand now... ok, fine :)
[12:05] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> hastesaver, only by deleting partitions
[12:05] <hastesaver> BubbaTheLoveSpon, yes, got it.
[12:05] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> you need linux for REAL work :)
[12:07] <ubuntu_> dziendobry:)
[12:07] <mnepton> zdrazvidya
[12:08] <tarelerulz> I installed swat with synaptic
[12:08] <tarelerulz> so it is turned on by befault
[12:08] <mnepton> ps aux will tell you
[12:08] <mnepton> (if it has consistently runiing processes, that is)
[12:09] <sonics> hi all =)
[12:09] <sonics> is there anyone here who is experienced with gaim?
[12:10] <b_52Centos> guys i am under ubuntu , i remove files true thunar , but the space of my home directory don't decrease
[12:10] <b_52Centos> xubuntu to be more precise
[12:11] <cheesy> how do i run a script(setup.lexprint) in the terminal?
[12:12] <gsuveg> re
[12:12] <gsuveg> pleese gimme url/info about official 'ubuntu' font-type
[12:17] <Dextorion> cheesy: ./script
[12:17] <cosmodad> how can I change qt-based application fonts I use in gnome?
[12:17] <cheesy> will try :)
[12:17] <sonics> hm mb some1 can help me.. when I try to move a contact in gaim to another group it says "cannot move contact" and when I restart gaim.. contact is gone...
[12:17] <sonics> any1 know that issue?
[12:17] <compengi> what should i do in "software preferences" to make dapper update?
[12:17] <heikki> cheesy: if you get "permission denied"-error then write chmod u+x file
[12:17] <Dextorion> what heikki said
[12:17] <cheesy> thanks!
[12:17] <cheesy> i did sudo ./*
[12:17] <cheesy> it worked
[12:17] <cheesy> ubuntu=best support ever ;)
[12:18] <compengi> what should i do to the universe and multiverse to make dapper update?
[12:18] <Dextorion> would someone be so kind and dcc me something.. whatever.
[12:18] <Dextorion> no to small though please
[12:19] <heikki> Dextorion: i'm sending
[12:19] <Dextorion> ah heikki thanks.  a bit to small though
[12:19] <Dextorion> :p
[12:19] <invisiblepinkuni> ubotu emacs
[12:19] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[12:19] <invisiblepinkuni> ubotu do you like gentoo?
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you like gentoo? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <heikki> oh, you want something bigger
[12:20] <Dextorion> thanks anyways.
[12:20] <heikki> wait
[12:20] <invisiblepinkuni> !gentoo
[12:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[12:20] <invisiblepinkuni> !freebsd
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <akifemre> !windows
[12:20] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:20] <Dextorion> bah
[12:20] <invisiblepinkuni> hehehe
[12:20] <Dextorion> ok, thanks heikki
[12:20] <heikki> np
[12:21] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> theres a windows help channel?
[12:21] <Jon-Doe> hello guys n girls, looking to get win xp and ubuntu on one hdd any1 know how to do it?
[12:21] <variant> Jon-Doe: install winxp then install ubuntu
[12:22] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> Jon-Doe, thats easy as pie, nothing special, make sure xp goes first
[12:22] <variant> Jon-Doe: ubuntu will offer to shrink your winxp partition
[12:22] <compengi> Jon-Doe: you need to make a separate EXT2-3 extension and install your ubuntu on
[12:22] <variant> compengi: dont over complicate matters, the installer handles that for him
[12:22] <invisiblepinkuni> Jon-Doe: make sure xp is installed first. otherwise it screws up things
[12:22] <Jon-Doe> k
[12:22] <Jon-Doe> cheers guys
[12:22] <Dextorion> heikki: heh.. is it any good?
[12:22] <compengi> variant: can you help me?
[12:22] <variant> Dextorion: is what any good?
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> easy enuff then
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> lol
[12:23] <variant> compengi: what with?
[12:23] <invisiblepinkuni> Jon-Doe: the ideal would be install only ubuntu or ubuntu/linux/bsd
[12:23] <invisiblepinkuni> :)
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> lol
[12:23] <Jon-Doe> its more a trial run at the moment
[12:24] <heikki> Dextorion: it's one finnish movie about Matti Nyknen :)
[12:24] <Dextorion> heikki: ah, okay
[12:24] <compengi> variant: i installed my ubuntu and want to make it update but i don't remember what should i do to the universe and multiverse thing to make the updates go =/
[12:24] <newRunner> Hi. What's the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD. DVD contain more packages ?
[12:24] <variant> compengi: to simply update just run: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:24] <heikki> compengi: do you want to upgrade your dapper to edgy or just do a basic update?
[12:24] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: the audio???
[12:24] <Dextorion> heikki: uhm.. just to be annoyting, could you dcc something again please :)
[12:25] <heikki> ok :)
[12:25] <reaperindeath> Hey guys
[12:25] <mjr> newRunner, yes; for instance, the DVD can fit all the three desktop environments, whereas there's a separate CD for each
[12:25] <Dextorion> thanks
[12:25] <compengi> heikki: just basic update
[12:25] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, yes, things like protools
[12:25] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: whats that for?
[12:25] <invisiblepinkuni> linux still has to improve on wireless and audio support
[12:25] <Dextorion> baah.. oh well
[12:25] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, multitrack recording
[12:25] <variant> invisiblepinkuni: i agree iwth the wireless but certainly not on the audio fron
[12:25] <heikki> oops, it was a little file
[12:25] <reaperindeath> Hey I have a question. Im using amule. Where is the download folder located for amule. I cant find it LOL?
[12:25] <compengi> variant: so no need to do something with universe and multiverse?
[12:25] <Dextorion> heikki: nvm, thank you
[12:25] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> im not talking about sound card support
[12:26] <newRunner> so the DVD contains all the packages that are availabe for ubuntu ?
[12:26] <mjr> newRunner, regardless of where you install from, you can install the rest of the packages easily from the net (if you have a connection, of course)
[12:26] <variant> compengi: unless you want certain software from those repositorys
[12:26] <Jon-Doe> how good is ubuntu with wireless support?
[12:26] <Jon-Doe> am i likely to be able to get a connection>
[12:26] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> Jon-Doe, ugh.
[12:26] <C-O-L-T> anybody uses a dell inspiron laptop?
[12:27] <newRunner> i have a slow connection, thats why I want a dvd with most packages I can get
[12:27] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4814
[12:27] <mjr> newRunner, well then get it
[12:27] <variant> Jon-Doe: depends what card you have
[12:27] <variant> Jon-Doe: what wireless hardware do you have?
[12:27] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> Jon-Doe, my experience with wireless and ANY linux distro has been depressing at best, although I did get it to work with ubuntu for 386
[12:27] <compengi> variant: because when i first used ubuntu someone guided me and told me to do something in the software preference regarding universe and multiverse thing
[12:27] <Dextorion> wohoo.. now it works
[12:27] <Jon-Doe> linkseys, belkin or a cheep thing take ur pick
[12:27] <variant> compengi: if your not missing anything you dont need to mess around
[12:28] <newRunner> is any package listing to see in the web about CD and DVD ?
[12:28] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, that is no comparison to protools
[12:28] <variant> Jon-Doe: you shouldnt have any problem.. setting up wpa can be a pain, but if you dont use it then thats no problem either :)
[12:28] <Juhaz> Jon-Doe, somewhere on the line from "easy as pie" to "nightmare" to "impossible", depending on hardware, the network you're connecting to, and whole slew of other things
[12:28] <compengi> variant: okay then i'm updating through the terminal :)
[12:28] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: sorry, i have never used it so can't really help.. does it run in wine?
[12:28] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, no
[12:28] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: you have tried?
[12:29] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, lol.
[12:29] <Jon-Doe> can i connect it to a windows run network?
[12:29] <compengi> Jon-Doe: sure
[12:29] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: whats funny?
[12:29] <Jon-Doe> cool
[12:29] <variant> Jon-Doe: yes
[12:29] <Jon-Doe> wheres the best place to find drivers?
[12:29] <reaperindeath> so nobody knows where the files in amule download too?
[12:29] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, your questions.
[12:29] <newRunner> is any package listing to see in the web about CD and DVD packages?
[12:30] <compengi> jon-Doe: no need for drivers
[12:30] <Jon-Doe> huh?
[12:30] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: only trying to help you mate, if you find that funny you can go somewhere else with your big head :)
[12:30] <compengi> Jon-Doe: it will auto find them :)
[12:30] <Jon-Doe> ok
[12:30] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, it isnt a big head, I said what I said for a reason - theres no protools for linux.
[12:30] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: you tried ardour?
[12:31] <compengi> Jon-Doe: only for some parts, where you can find help here
[12:31] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: I don't really have any idea when it comes to multi track recording so what do you expect?
[12:31] <Jon-Doe> ok
[12:31] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, ive tried a couple of progs, even checked out stuff like cinelerra, but cinelerra is no Avid and nothing in linux comes close to protools
[12:31] <C-O-L-T> I need Alsa 1.0.11 how to get that? I need it for Dapper Drake because of sound issues
[12:31] <Jon-Doe> cheers guys
[12:32] <compengi> variant: Reading package lists... Done
[12:32] <compengi> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:32] <compengi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:32] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: have a look at ardour.. it seems to be quite popular. if you havent allready tried it you might find it usefull
[12:32] <didlo> i am still a newbie in linux, what means wine ?
[12:32] <variant> compengi: you must also have synaptic open or somthing.. close all other software installation programs
[12:32] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> variant, ive looked at it, but with all due respect, I wont be doing any multitrack recording on it
[12:32] <compengi> didlo: it makes exe extensions run on linux
[12:32] <variant> didlo: its a program that allows you to run some windows applications on gnu/linux
[12:32] <variant> BubbaTheLoveSpon: i see
[12:33] <didlo> compengi, variant and how can i install wine ?
[12:33] <variant> didlo: apt-get install wine
[12:33] <didlo> variant and after that i have to do something ?
[12:33] <variant> didlo: the majority of windows software won't run flawlessly under wine but you can get most programs to be functional at the very least
[12:33] <didlo> variant and wine it's only for ubuntu distro or for all distros ?
[12:33] <variant> didlo: its for any distro..
[12:34] <reZo> How do I go about removing a user in CLI in Ubuntu 5.04?
[12:34] <reaperindeath> variant: do you know where amule dowload folder is?
[12:34] <variant> didlo: after installing it you start the windows program by double clicking its exe (under ubuntu that should work) or by writing "wine /path/to/windows/program.exe" on the command line
[12:34] <C-O-L-T> !alsa
[12:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:34] <variant> reaperindeath: .amule/incomeing
[12:35] <variant> reaperindeath: might be .amule/Incoming actualy
[12:35] <variant> reaperindeath: userdel usernamehere
[12:35] <reaperindeath> thats hidden correct
[12:35] <variant> reZo: userdel usernamehere
[12:35] <reZo> variant :)
[12:35] <didlo> variant thanks
[12:36] <variant> reaperindeath: yes, its a hidden file. what i did for my girl friend who also found that annoying was create a symlink with the following command: ln -s ~/.amule/Incoming ~/Downloads
[12:36] <whazilla> high
[12:36] <cwill1> flash 9 on linux!  woooooot!
[12:36] <whazilla> can i ask assist on a laptop localhost issue
[12:36] <variant> reaperindeath: userdel username will deleet the account but not the home dir, run sudo rm -rf /home/usernamehere to delete that also
[12:36] <whazilla> from network manager deleted all local stuff
[12:37] <whazilla> now can't sudo anymore :$
[12:37] <Dextorion> cwill1: :)  trixy or easy?
[12:37] <tarelerulz> I don't want to sound dumb ,but was is cool about flash
[12:37] <variant> whazilla: woops
[12:37] <cwill1> Dextorion: define trixy
[12:37] <variant> tarelerulz: not very much too be honest
[12:37] <Dextorion> ye, i guessed so..   bah
[12:37] <cwill1> Dextorion: disable the old one, and copy the new file into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[12:37] <tarelerulz> I am glad you have it working I know when I get something working I fell like telling the world
[12:37] <cwill1> and restart
[12:37] <variant> whazilla: you will have to boot into a live cd, chroot your hard disk ubuntu install and set up localhost again
[12:38] <Dextorion> cwill1: okaydokay.
[12:39] <Dextorion> where did you get the flash 9 files from btw?
[12:39] <cwill1> Dextorion: one sec
[12:39] <didlo> variant what means .deb ?
[12:39] <tarelerulz> I installed swat with synaptic  and I have looked at the file that are said to start it and it seems to be in those file
[12:39] <cwill1> Dextorion:  http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:39] <Dextorion> didlo: .deb files are install files for debian based distros
[12:39] <variant> didlo: it is the installation file used by ubuntu or debian software
[12:40] <tarelerulz> ,but when I try to access it nothing happens I get error
[12:40] <Dextorion> didlo: or more like: install files that apt runs
[12:40] <variant> didlo: it is simmilar to a self extracting zip in some ways
[12:40] <Administrator> is flash9 already in ubuntu?>
[12:40] <variant> Administrator: doubtfull
[12:40] <Dextorion> Administrator: nah
[12:40] <Administrator> when ?
[12:40] <cwill1> administrator:  it's still a beta
[12:40] <Dextorion> good question :D
[12:41] <Administrator> so not even in edgy?
[12:41] <cwill1> released like two days ago
[12:41] <harmental> how can i convert a png file to a pdf file of the same size?
[12:41] <variant> Administrator: no idea, proprietry software (especially beta release proprietry software) does not get any priority at all
[12:41] <Administrator> can proprietry software be installed on ubuntu computers and sell them?
[12:41] <CyberSlug> If you have a MacBook Pro, do you go for the ppc or the x86 version of Ubuntu?
[12:42] <tarelerulz>  An error occurred while loading http://192.168.1.101:901/:Could not connect to host 192.168.1.101 (port 901).
[12:42] <cwill1> neat, bug already  :)
[12:42] <variant> harmental: there is a program called png2pdf, its not in ubuntu repos though so installing from source is the way to go
[12:42] <constrictor> Administrator: i have been using Flash 9 in Edgy for the past couple of days and i have no problems with it yet
[12:42] <variant> Administrator: if you have a licence from the proprietry software copyright holders and you also comply with the GPL and other licences
[12:43] <variant> constrictor: does it have an intel cpu?
[12:43] <Fuzzy76> I'm using the proprietary ati driver. When enabling composition in xorg.conf, my opengl acceleration disappeared. Anyone know what might be the problem?
[12:43] <cwill1> constrictor: pandora plus gaim doesn't work :)
[12:43] <Administrator> ah so the licenses have to be availble on the computer?
[12:43] <harmental> thx variant.....no easier way?
[12:43] <constrictor> variant: i am on Centrino Duo no problems yet
[12:43] <cwill1> Administrator:  you'd have to download it yourself and install
[12:43] <constrictor> just heard pandora doesn't work though
[12:44] <CyberSlug> Anyone?
[12:44] <variant> Administrator: you must obtain permission from the proprietry software owners. if you dont  include proprietry software then you can sell a linux based box no problem as long as you distribute the source to the gnu gpl licenced software also
[12:44] <constrictor> Cyberslug: i thought macbook pro was now intel?
[12:44] <variant> harmental: it is very easy
[12:45] <variant> harmental: http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net/
[12:45] <cwill1> constrictor: it works, until gaim (at least) takes focus
[12:45] <CyberSlug> constrictor, It is... But I have found conflicting stories... and it seems that it is very hard to set up :S
[12:45] <variant> harmental: you will need build-essential and libpng-dev and pdflib-dev (im just guessing
[12:45] <constrictor> due to the EFI file system?
[12:45] <Adross> whenever I tried to open banshee it lists all my music, says it's starting inotify threats then crashes of a segmentation fault. Any ideas?
[12:46] <variant> Adross: sorry, i don't know banshee
[12:46] <constrictor> Cuberslug: i haven't heard a success stories for ubuntu on macbook pro yet
[12:46] <constrictor> i'll look on the Wiki if i were you
[12:46] <cosmodad> anyone know how to change qt-based application fonts I use in gnome?
[12:46] <CyberSlug> constrictor, :S... Ok... Thanks
[12:46] <CyberSlug> constrictor, Will do
[12:46] <CyberSlug> Thank you everyone - Bye!
[12:46] <variant> CyberSlug: if its a intel cpu, shoul dbe no problem, if its ppc, should be no problem.. there may be bugs that i am not aware of though
[12:46] <constrictor> ;)
[12:48] <variant> harmental: if you need help just let me know
[12:48] <florg> hi, what causes filenames with french accents not to be showed correctly in nautilus? is there any configuration that would solve the problem?
[12:48] <harmental> ok...thx variant
[12:49] <variant> harmental: im off for some food now though so /query me if you do (you will have to be registered and identified to /query me on freenode though)
[12:49] <variant> harmental: /msg nickserve help
[12:49] <constrictor> cwill1: pandora works for me with flash 9
[12:50] <variant> harmental: /msg nickserv help i mean
[12:50] <harmental> thank you....i got it working with OO anyway.....
[12:50] <XVampireX>  @nvdia
[12:50] <XVampireX>  @nvidia
[12:50] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:51] <variant> harmental: cool, good job
[12:51] <hetauma> I followed this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse so I would have rw access to ntfs partion. trying to mount the partition manually works just fine. But mounting the partition from fstab doesn't work :( Here is my fstab too http://pastebin.ca/211508  any ideas what's wrong ?
[12:51] <mnepton> XVampireX: the nVidia driver is not a good idea at present
[12:51] <XVampireX> mnepton, Why?
[12:51] <ibob63> I am trying to get pdf printing from firefox on ubuntu. Tried cu-pdf printer but is there another way?
[12:51] <XVampireX> mnepton, it doesn't work for me on edgy, that's what I'm trying to get it to work on :P
[12:56] <mnepton> XVampireX: the nVidia binary blob has a remote root exploit. read the /topic
[12:56] <XVampireX> mnepton, I have no problem with the exploit, I just want things to work.
[12:56] <mnepton> XVampireX: uhhhh ....
[12:56] <mnepton> XVampireX: you have no problem with a random person having root on your machine?
[12:57] <XVampireX> mnepton, I have no problem with that
[12:57] <mnepton> XVampireX: great, make me an account and /msg me the login credentials? >:)
[12:57] <XVampireX> right
[01:02] <josh_> What font on ubuntu mostly resembles arial from windows?
[01:03] <Smotang> arial?
[01:03] <ibob63> josh: you can install the microsoft font set.
[01:03] <josh_> oh ok ty
[01:04] <ibob63> josh: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts cabextract
[01:04] <ibob63> you will need to add all the different repositries
[01:04] <Fuzzy76> Sorry for repeating. I'm using the proprietary ati driver, opengl and all works. But when enabling composition in xorg.conf, my opengl acceleration disappeared. Anyone know what might be the problem?
[01:04] <ibob63> otherwise it might not work
[01:05] <apokryphos> Fuzzy76: 'opengl acceleration'?
[01:05] <berent> Fuzzy76: yup whats opengl acceleration?
[01:05] <apokryphos> Fuzzy76: do you mean direct rendering?
[01:05] <Fuzzy76> the opengl extensions of the driver
[01:06] <Fuzzy76> the opengl screensaver suddenly went into software mode
[01:06] <Fuzzy76> and switching desktops became sluggish
[01:06] <chuckyp> Fuzzy76, glxinfo | grep render
[01:06] <apokryphos> opengl applications will be hardware accelerated if the driver supports fbos/pbuffers (which fglrx does)
[01:07] <nickspoon> Fuzzy76: do you have "RenderAccel" enabled?
[01:07] <chuckyp> Fuzzy76, also xgl support is in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:07] <apokryphos> nickspoon: direct rendering on xgl is impossible to implement at the moment
[01:07] <Fuzzy76> chuckyp : Looks fine, but I've rebooted with composition off.
[01:10] <cypher1_> how do i enable usb headphone
[01:10] <cypher1_> i plugged in but i cannot hear anything
[01:10] <cypher1_> the totem, vlc players are using the normal speakers
[01:10] <boni> can anyone help me to install splash screen??
[01:10] <Fuzzy76> nickspoon : Not explicit. But acceleration is on when the composition mode isn't set in xorg.conf
[01:10] <chuckyp> cypher1, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18926
[01:10] <forsaker> hi guys
[01:10] <Constrictor> boni: google splashy
[01:11] <chuckyp> !splash
[01:11] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[01:11] <forsaker> someone using postgresql?
[01:11] <berent> cypher1 : open volume controls and enable headphones in preferences
[01:12] <chuckyp> cypher1, I'm sure a search in google may yield more relevant results as well.
[01:12] <chuckyp> !ask > forsaker
[01:12] <mmcji> morning
[01:13] <ibob63> does anyone know about pdf printing?
[01:13] <forsaker> chuckyp, my question was if someone uses postgresql :P anyway... I just installed it on my dapper system... and I was wandering wich was the role allowed to create other roles...
[01:14] <cypher1_> berent, i have already enabled it
[01:14] <Constrictor> !login splash
[01:14] <[psy] > (Logquote not found 'n splash')
[01:14] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB
[01:14] <bimberi> forsaker: 'sudo su - postgres' (iirc)
[01:14] <Constrictor> !loginsplash
[01:14] <[psy] > (Logquote not found 'nsplash')
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loginsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <compengi> variant: do you know what codecs should i download to make *.mp3 extensions work?
[01:14] <cypher1_> chuckyp, i can see the snd_usb_audio module in lsmod output also
[01:18] <berent> cypher1_: checkout if ur usb device is detected in dmesg
[01:18] <bimberi> !splash
[01:18] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[01:18] <forsaker> bimberi .. I already tried but it says the role 'root' doesn't exist
[01:18] <bimberi> !usplash
[01:18] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:18] <Stalwart> !kernel
[01:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:18] <Constrictor> compengi: wiki has answer
[01:18] <boni> thanx
[01:18] <Stalwart> is 7.10 repository open already?
[01:18] <twev> aside from pulling my pc apart, is there anyway to tell if there is any sort of 3d card installed. i know i have nothing in the agp slot, but how about on board
[01:18] <twev> ?
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, I doubt it.
[01:18] <twev> my x.org driver is ati.
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, do you mean edgy?
[01:18] <bimberi> forsaker: hm, i'm not sure about that sorry
[01:18] <mmcji> im setting up a second ubuntu machine inside of a secure lan.  I would like to enable telnet to the box.  The box will never connect to the internet and sending commands and pasword to the box in clear text is readable so i have no need for ssh for this.  When I install the telnetd package, im still getting connection refused.  Netstat also does not list the service listening.  What do i still need to do to enable this?
[01:18] <Stalwart> chuckyp: no, 7.10 - release after edgy (i forgot codename)
[01:18] <forsaker> bimberi, np... thank you anyway :>
[01:18] <chuckyp> mmcji, check out the telnet conf in /etc
[01:18] <compengi> Constrictor: what should i search for?
[01:18] <Constrictor> Stalwart: fiest fawn
[01:18] <mmcji> thanks chuckyp
[01:18] <Stalwart> Constrictor: when? =] 
[01:18] <Constrictor> libmp3mad
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, It won't even start to get worked on untill a few weeks after edgy release
[01:18] <Constrictor> libmp3ugly
[01:18] <Samuli^> !edgy
[01:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, and it won't be very much different from edgy at first.
[01:18] <Constrictor> or something of the sort i forget
[01:18] <XVampireX> !multimedia
[01:18] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:18] <boni> could u pls tell me wat should I modify under /apps/gconf-editor??
[01:18] <Stalwart> i need .18 kernel ;[
[01:18] <chuckyp> boni, for what?
[01:18] <catalytic> howdy
[01:18] <chuckyp> Stalwart, you could install it
[01:18] <catalytic> what is the command that loads gnome?
[01:19] <Constrictor> Stalwart: i didn't get that when? question
[01:19] <boni> chuckyp: to get the splash screen going??
[01:19] <catalytic> eg xfce4-session starts the xfce
[01:19] <chuckyp> boni, do you want to chang ethe splash for gnome or the first spash you see before you log in?
[01:19] <Stalwart> Constrictor: when fiest will be available?
[01:19] <catalytic> what starts gnome?
[01:19] <chuckyp> catalytic, gdm
[01:19] <boni> the splash screen for gnome
[01:19] <catalytic> ah sweet thanks
[01:19] <Stalwart> chuckyp: are packages available?
[01:19] <chuckyp> !splash > boni
[01:20] <catalytic> er
[01:20] <chuckyp> Stalwart, the source is availible.
[01:20] <catalytic> isnt gdm the login page?
[01:20] <catalytic> that lets you choose different sessions?
[01:20] <chuckyp> Stalwart, may I ask why you need the .18 kernel?
[01:20] <Stalwart> chuckyp: SBS
[01:20] <lander> hola
[01:20] <chuckyp> catalytic, yes.
[01:20] <catalytic> chucky
[01:20] <catalytic> ok
[01:20] <catalytic> thats not what i want
[01:20] <catalytic> i have an xgl session already created
[01:20] <Stalwart> chuckyp: Fucki^W Smart Battery System
[01:20] <catalytic> except the last line is
[01:21] <catalytic> exec xfce4-session
[01:21] <catalytic> but i want to load gnome instaed
[01:21] <Constrictor> !schedule
[01:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:21] <catalytic> so ive been trying to locate what gnome's exec is
[01:21] <Constrictor> Stalwart: Fiesty Fawn should be out by april 2007 (all things being equal)
[01:22] <Stalwart> i need it now =P
[01:22] <Constrictor> it's a 6 month sycle
[01:22] <chuckyp> Stalwart, hrm  well yeah you could compile your own kernel.  There are some directions in the forums on how to do that.
[01:22] <catalytic> does that make sense chucky?
[01:22] <cypher1_> berent, i plugged out and in the headphone.. i got a message saying new device found
[01:22] <boni> chuckyp: that means that I should add this line !splash in which file under gconf-editor???
[01:22] <chuckyp> catalytic, yeah I understand what you are asking i'm trying to figure out myself.
[01:23] <cypher1_> berent, but not sound
[01:23] <catalytic> ok thanks
[01:23] <chuckyp> boni, no You need to follow the directions from ubotu
[01:23] <chuckyp> !splash
[01:23] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[01:23] <catalytic> i thought it was maybe gtk or something
[01:23] <boni> thanx ubotu and chuckyp
[01:23] <chuckyp> catalytic, nah hold up let me see
[01:24] <chuckyp> catalytic, gnome-session
[01:24] <catalytic> ah ok
[01:24] <fildo> hi all
[01:24] <twev> how can i check what video card i've got?
[01:24] <Nighteye> dunno
[01:24] <catalytic> thanks, ill try it out
[01:25] <catalytic> trying to get compiz to run and make wobbly bits :P
[01:25] <mmcji> chuckyp: hmmm i do not have a telnet directory under /etc nor to i see that in /etc a xinetd.conf or a inetd.conf
[01:25] <boni> ubotu: under/apps/gnome-sessiom/options I have got no file as splashscreen
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about under/apps/gnome-sessiom/options I have got no file as splashscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <whyso> ubuntu doesnt recognize my back button on mouse, any ideas to help it?
[01:26] <apokryphos> twev: lspci | grep -i graphic
[01:26] <chuckyp> mmcji, is there a telnetd.conf file?
[01:27] <boni> ubotu: I meant /apps/gnome-session/option I didnt mean an under directory
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I meant /apps/gnome-session/option I didnt mean an under directory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <mmcji> chuckyp: odd, but no there is not
[01:27] <boni> ubotu: ok thanx anyways
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok thanx anyways - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <chuckyp> boni, ubotu is a robot
[01:27] <mmcji> i looked for iptables, but do not see that either
[01:28] <twev> apokryphos: nothing shows up, when i do a plain lspci it shows a ATI 128 rage pro ultra. But when I try and use the ati prop. drivers x won't boot. any idea why?
[01:28] <kuh-emu> mmcji: btw, even inside a secured lan i would use ssh instead of telnet
[01:28] <boni> chuckyp: what do u mean??? didnt get u
[01:28] <apokryphos> twev: are you following the FAQ guide on installing/using the drivers?
[01:29] <kuh-emu> mmcji: it is much more convenient with public key auth and ssh-agent
[01:29] <chuckyp> boni, the key should be called spash-image I believe.  You may also want to google for splashy as someone else suggested.
[01:29] <apokryphos> !faq
[01:29] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:29] <twev> apokryphos: it just said install, do a dpkg-reconfigure choose the fglrx and restart, thats what i did. it didn't work
[01:29] <mmcji> k i do have : telnet          stream  tcp     nowait  telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
[01:29] <apokryphos> twev: what error do you get specifically?
[01:29] <nickspoon> boni: ubotu is not a real person.
[01:29] <nickspoon> !ubotu
[01:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:30] <didlo> variant, if i install wine i can use mIRC too ?
[01:30] <AngryElf> how do i make an ip address static via the command? -- when I    ifconfig eth0 2.2.2.2 up       and reboot, it comes back as dhcp
[01:30] <Smotang> mirc ftl
[01:30] <twev> apokryphos: ummm x won't boot. it says no devices found i think
[01:31] <didlo> what ? :P
[01:31] <Rookie_> AngryElf - /etc/network/interfaces
[01:31] <apokryphos> twev: can you check again?
[01:31] <kuh-emu> didlo: mIRC runs in wine, but i see no point in using it. xchat or irssi is the way to go.
[01:31] <twev> apokryphos: umm ok but i'll prolly d/c. just a tic
[01:31] <apokryphos> !irc
[01:31] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:31] <didlo> kuh-emu ok
[01:31] <boni> !splash
[01:31] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[01:32] <kuh-emu> didlo: try xchat if you want gui, try irssi if you want text mode
[01:32] <Bybeb> hello
[01:36] <didlo> i am a still newbie in linux, anyone have time to tell me the basic rules ?
[01:36] <Bybeb> I work with illustration and I'm looking for a unix solution
[01:36] <didlo> kuh-emu i use xchat now
[01:36] <Bybeb> thing is I need photoshop and illustrator
[01:36] <boink> maybe the gimp?
[01:36] <Bybeb> unfortunately gimp isn't quite enough
[01:36] <boink> that I couldn't say
[01:36] <Rookie_> didlo - http://www.tldp.org/
[01:36] <skar> hi, i've got a ubuntu machine in my college lab for my project and i want my hostel desktop to have the same setup, but hostel network is down for a month, how do i copy the apt db and also what debs are needed for a particular package?
[01:36] <twev> apokryphos: ok, it says this
[01:36] <Juhaz> Bybeb, inkscape for vector drawing
[01:36] <cappe_> what program do you suggest me to use to "make room" for FreeBSD? I'd like some kind of partition magic-lookalike app..
[01:36] <ReverseBlade> Bybeb, try wine
[01:36] <Rookie_> cappe_ - gparted
[01:36] <twev> apokryphos: no screens found
[01:36] <chuckyp> skar, well if you have apt installed you just need to add the sources for ubuntu  or you could download the debs manually from packages.ubuntu.com I believe
[01:36] <boink> manually? that makes no sense
[01:36] <boink> that's why there's apt-get
[01:36] <chuckyp> skar, I would strongly advise against installing ubuntu packages on a different distro though.
[01:36] <twev> apokryphos: no devices detected, amongst a bunch of other stuff. but when i use the same settings with the ati driver, instead of fglrx, it works
[01:36] <skar> chuckyp: both are ubuntu machines, one has internet, another doesn't, thats where i want to replicate the packages installed
[01:37] <Whhr> hi anybody about ?
[01:37] <chuckyp> skar, just need the cd then.  for a majority of them.  if you want to mimic the installed software you could do a dpkg -l      to list all the installed stuff on the school computer.  THen just add those packages to the other pc.
[01:38] <skar> chuckyp: thanks that'd do i guess :)
[01:38] <chuckyp> skar, do something like dpkg -l > test.txt
[01:39] <chuckyp> skar, that would put the output of dpkg -l into the file test.txt  then you could go through the list and install the various packages.
[01:39] <skar> chuckyp: ok, then i can download(or rather copy from the apt cache) to a cd, bring it to the other machine and install there ?
[01:39] <Whhr> Hi, I noticed that with ubuntu server and a install of apache2 the default config does not use chrooting, just how secure is apache2 with the defualt configuration?
[01:40] <chuckyp> skar, yeah thats an optoin as well copy the apt-cache to cdrom and bring it to the other machine and dpkg -i *.deb
[01:40] <cappe_> I'm running gparted now.. Do I have to unmount my linux partition in order to rezise it smaller?? and how will this affect my system? maybe I need to do this from XP by using Partition Magic then..
[01:40] <chuckyp> skar, assuming the hardware is similiar and you aren't installing hardware specific packges.
[01:40] <skar> chuckyp: yup of course :)
[01:40] <mikeymike-linux> grub splash images
[01:40] <chuckyp> cappe_, you could boot the livecd and do it.
[01:41] <cappe_> ain't got that cd here :P I'll enter the mad m$ world now...
[01:41] <cappe_> bbl
[01:42] <winterweaver> Hiya! Does anyone have a link or info on how I can rollback my Nvidia Drivers? the Package manager only has the latest
[01:42] <chuckyp> cappe_, dunno if partition magic wills uport it
[01:42] <chuckyp> winterweaver, install an older version from apt-cache
[01:43] <winterweaver> chuckyp, will that overwrite the current drivers? and will my TwinView still work? (I'm a bit newb)
[01:43] <george> Is it safe to upgarde fron breezy to dapper ?
[01:44] <cappe_> will I do fine with FreeBSD having 3 gb of space?? I could put it on the first disk i.e. (what's left of it)
[01:44] <chuckyp> winterweaver, if are talking about reverting back to an earlier installed version you just have to find the apt caches .deb file on your computer then dpkg -i that deb.
[01:44] <jakubek> hello.
[01:44] <Whhr> chuckyp you partitioning a multi boot ?
[01:44] <chuckyp> george, I would back up any needed data first.
[01:44] <chuckyp> Whhr, huh?
[01:45] <jakubek> http://wklej.org/id/d95258426f - help.
[01:45] <Whhr> sorry ment cappe_
[01:45] <A[D] minS> !amsn
[01:45] <sokuban> what is wrong with this fstab line"/dev/sda5       /media/sda5     vfat    defaults,users,rw 0      0
[01:45] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[01:45] <A[D] minS> !build amsn
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <A[D] minS> !build
[01:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:45] <GameZMember624> anyonek nows if its possible to run my ircd server(unrealircd) + anope irc servicest hrough a mysql db, i can easily set it up through linux but id like to put it on my webserver
[01:45] <A[D] minS> thx
[01:45] <sokuban> I have a fat32 partition on sda5 and I can't even mount it with root
[01:46] <george> thx
[01:46] <chuckyp> sokuban, what happens when you try to sudo mount it?
[01:46] <Whhr> you know VMWare Workstation can save you a lot of time.
[01:46] <kuh-emu> Whhr: qemu can do that too
[01:46] <chuckyp> winterweaver, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:46] <GameZMember624> UnrealIRCd & anope ii they wprk through a mysql db?
[01:47] <GameZMember624> just wondering
[01:47] <lastnode> i apt-getted wine, but winehq is not there?
[01:47] <mikeymike-linux> how do i remove a symbolic link i created
[01:47] <sokuban> chuckyp: I can't even mount it with root "sokuban@Arche:~$ sudo mount /media/sda5
[01:47] <sokuban> Password:
[01:47] <chuckyp> lastnode, what is winehq?
[01:47] <sokuban> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[01:47] <mikeymike-linux> just delete the symlink 'file' ??
[01:48] <sokuban> sokuban@Arche:~$
[01:48] <GameZMember624> is it possible to put UnrealIRCd & anope on a webserver & run them through a mysql db?
[01:48] <Crazyl1nk> wow im finally on
[01:48] <chuckyp> !fat > sokuban
[01:48] <chuckyp> sokuban, you would need to specify the filesystem type in that mount command
[01:49] <sokuban> chuckyp: I'll take a look at that thanks, (But I thought I put vfat)
[01:49] <chuckyp> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /media/sda5
[01:49] <GameZMember624> is it possible to put UnrealIRCd & anope on a webserver & run them through a mysql db?
[01:50] <johanmuller> hi
[01:50] <GameZMember624> hi
[01:50] <chuckyp> sokuban, and make sure that you sudo mkdir /media/sda5 prior to mounting the device.
[01:50] <chuckyp> !patience > GameZMember624
[01:50] <mikeymike-linux> lol
[01:50] <GameZMember624> sorry! you know if thats possible?
[01:50] <johanmuller> im running Gaim messenger on my computer
[01:50] <chuckyp> omfg
[01:50] <sokuban> chuckyp: Did that, and I did sudo chown sokuban
[01:50] <johanmuller> with msn
[01:50] <chuckyp> sokuban, well you don't need to chown the owner of /media/sda5
[01:50] <JuJuBee> Is there an easy way to print out a list of fonts installed in ubuntu as well as a list of packages?
[01:50] <lastnode> chuckyp: the tool to config wine?
[01:50] <johanmuller> but how do i upload my photo?
[01:50] <winterweaver> chuckyp, thanks... I just checked... I don't have an older version... busy downloading one now
[01:51] <sokuban> chuckyp: You do if you want the user to write and mount it right?
[01:51] <GameZMember624> whos next?
[01:51] <chuckyp> winterweaver, gotcha yeah after you do that you want to search about keeping a package so that it doesn't get auto updated to the newer version.
[01:51] <magicmike> Hello.
[01:51] <chuckyp> sokuban, yeah i guess
[01:51] <cappe_> If I wipe the partition on my first disk will the BOOT-loader disappear to?? or will it leave MBR-records??
[01:51] <winterweaver> thx, chuckyp
[01:51] <chuckyp> sokuban, but once root mounts there it may change the owner back.
[01:51] <johanmuller> how do upload my photo on Gaim messenger
[01:51] <chuckyp> cappe_, it will remove the MBR
[01:52] <sonics> anyone using ysm icq here?
[01:52] <chuckyp> cappe_, if you remvoe the partition
[01:52] <chuckyp> !grub > cappe_
[01:52] <chuckyp> johanmuller, upload it to where?
[01:52] <GameZMember624> whos next in line(me me) lol
[01:52] <johanmuller> gaim messenger for msn
[01:52] <lastnode> i basically just need a torrent client that can pick up and continue windows utorrent downloads
[01:52] <chuckyp> GameZMember624, its possible that someone may not know the answer to your problem.
[01:53] <chuckyp> GameZMember624, maybe try posting in the forums?
[01:53] <GameZMember624> thats posisble. ii ask it again just for sure
[01:53] <GameZMember624> is it possible to put UnrealIRCd & anope on a webserver & run them through a mysql db?
[01:53] <cappe_> but I think it's ok anyhow cause GRUB is installed on the second disk.. (Can I check this for being sure) ?
[01:53] <magicmike> Help requested here if possible.
[01:53] <Rookie_> !ask
[01:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:53] <GameZMember624> lol
[01:54] <GameZMember624> k i dint wanna interrupt anyone else
[01:54] <chuckyp> cappe_, well if you checked out your /boot/grub/menu.1st that would give you some info as far as which disk is where.
[01:54] <johanmuller> any out there
[01:54] <tnnc> is there an way to add the desktop to an server install
[01:54] <Crazyl1nk> hello everyone. i was woundering if theres anyone out there that wouldnt mind switching to a private chat for some help.
[01:54] <Whhr> you mean install X and packages ....
[01:54] <boni> !reply
[01:54] <Rookie_> tnnc - apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reply - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <chuckyp> johanmuller, upload your picture to what though?  Your msn account?  Don't you do that through a msn page?
[01:54] <boni> !ask
[01:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:54] <madduck> any idea about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-132572.html?
[01:54] <tnnc> thanks Rookie
[01:55] <GameZMember624> no one knows?
[01:55] <GameZMember624> hm
[01:55] <magicmike> I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and when it completed I was instructed to reboot. Following reboot, I am not able to access the internet. I go to system -networking config and the only option shown for config. is dialup modem. I don't use dialup(wireless was connection before reboot.)
[01:55] <johanmuller> ok chuckyp i will try thanks
[01:55] <chuckyp> boni, Are you trying to change the splash screen that comes up when you turn your computer on?  Or then one that comes up after you log in.
[01:55] <JuJuBee> Are the fonts all stored in a single directory?
[01:55] <chuckyp> JuJuBee, you could locate ttf
[01:56] <JuJuBee> chuckyp : thanks.
[01:56] <chuckyp> JuJuBee, but most are in /usr/share/fonts
[01:56] <chuckyp> JuJuBee, then there is a font cache as well.
[01:57] <chuckyp> magicmike, How did you install your wireless drivers before?  ndiswrapper?
[01:58] <cappe_> Ubuntu-my-kernel-blabla, root            (hd1,5) <- sais grub.lst that means it is on the second disc partition 5 right?? so I may wipe the first disc where windows is located and being sure grub isn't removed...
[01:58] <Crazyl1nk> i am ineed of help. this is my First linux OS box. so this means i am completely new to this but i wish to learn but i am in need of a few things before i learn this OS and one thing i wish to do is to install my GFX card and its Drivers. anyone out there mind helping me with my little dalema? *please forgive the spelling im dislexic... im pretty sure i spelt that wrong also >_<*
[01:58] <magicmike> No, I just used the networking config and it searched and found them and that ws it.
[01:58] <chuckyp> cappe_, not necessarily
[01:58] <JuJuBee> chuckyp :  thanks.  There seem to be a bunch of locations.  Even /var/lib...  I will cat that and print.
[01:58] <chuckyp> !grub
[01:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:58] <chuckyp> cappe_, there is some info on grub from ubotu
[01:58] <cappe_> k
[01:59] <JuJuBee> What about installed packages?  Is there an easy way to print a list of installed packages so I can duplicate an install on another machine?
[01:59] <chuckyp> magicmike, what type of wireless card do you have?
[01:59] <gilnim> is it normal that ubuntu edgy eft starts with: "ACP: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x1" and "Buffer I/0 error on device hdd, logical block 344502"?
[01:59] <cappe_> but what could go wrong.. teorically? GRUB is on the MBR of the second disk which I won't touch I will wipe the first partition where Windows is located..
[01:59] <nickspoon> why does my monitor deactivate every 10 minutes, even after I've set it to not do that in the Power Management thing?
[02:00] <cappe_> I am gonna read that now.
[02:00] <chuckyp> gilnim, looks like you may have a bad block on hdd.   I would try sudo fsck -f /dev/hdd and reboot to check it.
[02:00] <sokuban> This is odd, if I type the line in nano, the only difference from the one I copied from the faq was that it has the utf8 option, but now when I mount it, it says special device /dev/sda5 not found. (It is definately there, and that long command shows a /dev/sda5.)
[02:00] <GameZMember624> besides the mysql, is tehre a way too register your IRC server in the official serverlist? example: mIRC etc
[02:00] <magicmike> I have a US Robotics 22Mbps Wireless PCI
[02:00] <gilnim> nickspoon: the monitor itsself has a option you can deactivate
[02:00] <chuckyp> cappe_, yeah read that there are ways to fix grub too if it gets borked.
[02:00] <sokuban> Oooops, the copied line is hda5
[02:01] <Crazyl1nk> i am ineed of help. this is my First linux OS box. so this means i am completely new to this but i wish to learn but i am in need of a few things before i learn this OS and one thing i wish to do is to install my GFX card and its Drivers. anyone out there mind helping me with my little dalema? *please forgive the spelling im dislexic... im pretty sure i spelt that wrong also >_<*
[02:01] <nickspoon> gilnim: I've checked, it doesn't.
[02:01] <gilnim> chuckyp, i haven't installed edgy at the moment
[02:01] <ubuntu_> i have a problem recording voice memos with gnome sound recorder. when i select microphone as the recording source, it directly switches back to capture. what's wron here?
[02:01] <sokuban> Here is dmesg | tail "sda5."
[02:01] <chuckyp> magicmike, the only thing you may want to try is sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`   you may need those and its possible they didn't get installed.
[02:01] <sokuban> Here is dmesg | tail "[17181868.276000]  FAT: invalid media value (0x17)
[02:01] <sokuban> [17181868.276000]  VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda5.
[02:01] <Whhr> Crazylink prv message me
[02:01] <chuckyp> gilnim, okay?
[02:02] <gilnim> nickspoon: then i have no idea - did you look under settings of the screensaver? maybe its set to black
[02:02] <sokuban> So it is telling me there is no FAT filesystem on /dev/sda5 while there definately is.
[02:02] <GameZMember624> crazylink: what do you need to know, i might be able to help you, i know some linux commands, so whats ur question?
[02:02] <chuckyp> sokuban, thats fstab trying to mount it and erroring out
[02:02] <gilnim> chuckyp: what'sok?
[02:02] <variant> compengi: did you get an answer to the mp3 question?
[02:02] <sokuban> chuckyp: yes, but when I copy the command from the tutorial, and change it to sda5 it still has the same error
[02:03] <chuckyp> sokuban, sudo fdisk -l         see if /dev/sda5 is showing up there.
[02:03] <chuckyp> gilnim, I have no idea why you are telling me that you don't have edgy installed
[02:03] <variant> didlo: yes you can, god only knows why anyone would want to though
[02:04] <sokuban> chuckyp: yes, it shows it there '/dev/sda5            5857        7132    10249438+   b  W95 FAT32
[02:04] <ubuntu_> w95? lol
[02:04] <chuckyp> sokuban, okay try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /media/sda5
[02:04] <ubuntu_> anybody knows something about the gnome sound recorder?!
[02:04] <gilnim> chuckyp: you said i should run fdisk
[02:04] <variant> ubuntu_: what about it?
[02:04] <gilnim> !sound
[02:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:04] <chuckyp> ubuntu_, its just a fat32 partition shows up that way.
[02:05] <gilnim> !recorder
[02:05] <sokuban> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[02:05] <didlo> variant ok
[02:05] <Tokenbad> can someone tell me what CVS is and how to install it in ubuntu?
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recorder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <reZo> How do I use scp to transfer a file from my windows machine to my ubuntu 5.04 machine?
[02:05] <ubuntu_> variant: i can't record shit with it but rarely need voice memos.
[02:05] <magicmike> If that's it, then they were uninstalled during the dist-upgrade. I'm on a dual boot Linux/Windows computer so I'll try and be back shortly. Thanks chuckyp.
[02:05] <variant> reZo: you need winscp
[02:05] <Monska> hi
[02:05] <sokuban> chuckyp: doesn't work
[02:05] <reZo> okay
[02:05] <ubuntu_> variant: i have a problem recording voice memos with gnome sound recorder. when i select microphone as the recording source, it directly switches back to capture. what's wron here?
[02:05] <hastesaver> reZo, or putty
[02:05] <chuckyp> sokuban, -t fat    ???  can't remember the correct switch  or man mount to read the documentation
[02:05] <Whhr> reZo: may be SFTP, FTP, SMV
[02:05] <Whhr> err SMB
[02:05] <reZo> I'm using Putty
[02:05] <reZo> i'm using shell from my windows machine
[02:06] <GameZMember624> hcuckyp: you dont know if its possible to copy % run unrealircd and anope from a webserver?
[02:06] <variant> reZo: http://sourceforge.net/projects/winscp/
[02:06] <reZo> :)
[02:06] <variant> reZo: yes, i have used it to get files from a windows box before
[02:06] <chuckyp> sokuban, yeha mount -t vfat   should work.  Are you sure the partition is okay?
[02:06] <reZo> i only have cli in my linux distro also
[02:06] <sokuban> chuckyp: err, "mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'
[02:06] <sokuban> mount: maybe you meant 'vfat'?
[02:06] <Whhr> Bitvise Tunnelier is very cool windows free program for FTP, easy to use.
[02:06] <ubuntu_> which kernel fits best for an amd athlon xp 3200+ with via kt 600 chipset system`?
[02:06] <hastesaver> reZo, oh, putty comes with another thing called pscp, right?
[02:06] <Whhr> SFTP i mean
[02:06] <reZo> in the way of ftp, i have vsftpd,
[02:06] <Crazyl1nk> Whhr did you get my Pr message?
[02:06] <GameZMember624> anyone?
[02:06] <reZo> hastesaver, not sure :/
[02:06] <variant> reZo: actualy, i was thinking of the putty client
[02:07] <sokuban> chuckyp, I am not sure the partition is ok. I made it with Gparted on the ubuntu live CD, it is a logical partition, I never touched it with windows.
[02:07] <reZo> okay
[02:07] <variant> reZo: instal pscp instead (thats what i used, not winscp
[02:07] <hastesaver> reZo, it does. http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter5.html#pscp
[02:07] <variant> reZo: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[02:07] <reZo> :)
[02:07] <reZo> cheers
[02:07] <Tokenbad> can someone tell me what CVS is and how to install it in ubuntu?
[02:08] <chuckyp> sokuban, I would check it out in gparted make sure it got formated properly
[02:08] <variant> reZo: pscp c:\path\filename user@host:/path/
[02:08] <chuckyp> !cvs
[02:08] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:08] <cappe_> chuckyp: I have a line of groot=(hd1,5) <-- that one is inactive (#) how about deleting the #-sign to active it then save the grub.lst then do sudo grub-install ? right now it actually looks like GRUB is installed on the first disk's MBR :S
[02:08] <reZo> variant, cheers dude
[02:08] <sokuban> chuckyp: ok, I'll take a look.
[02:08] <cappe_> sudo update-grup i ment..
[02:08] <chuckyp> cappe_, not sure I haven't played that much with moving grub around and stuff.
[02:09] <variant> Tokenbad: it is software that allows development of software to be manged with versioning and multiple developers.. if you want to use some software that is available via cvs you will need to "checkout" the source code and then compile it normaly
[02:09] <variant> Tokenbad: is that what you want to do?
[02:09] <cappe_> anyone else knows about this??
[02:09] <chuckyp> cappe_, perhaps someone else could help more.
[02:09] <GameZMember624> how can i register my server to the official irc serverlist, example: mIRC serverlist????
[02:09] <JuJuBee> Got another question.  What do I use to rip audio to mp3?
[02:09] <Whhr> sorry Crazyl1nk, cant accept prv messages
[02:09] <Whhr> do it here.
[02:09] <Tokenbad> variant, not sure...I needed to install dxwine and to do that...it needs CVS
[02:09] <Crazyl1nk> alright
[02:09] <chuckyp> JuJuBee, check out the desktop guide
[02:09] <Whhr> explain what problem is, have you downloaded the 3rd party driver for linux ?
[02:10] <variant> Tokenbad: what do you mean? does it require that cvs is installed before you can use it? or do you get it from cvs?
[02:10] <conall> Can someone here tell me about upload.ubuntu.com? I can't find references to it searching www.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <Crazyl1nk> well see the thing is this is my first ever linux OS *2 days ago*
[02:10] <Whhr> np, what GFX card do you have ?
[02:10] <Crazyl1nk> Gforce FX 5500
[02:11] <webben> Why does /usr/liib/mozilla-firefox/plugins not include libnullplugin.so ?
[02:11] <GameZMember624> am i muted or something?
[02:11] <chuckyp> !nvidia
[02:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <Tokenbad> variant, they have an install script...and it goes through stuff and then says checking CVS and then quits says CVS not found
[02:11] <chuckyp> GameZMember624, no  perhaps ask in #irchelp or some similiar channel more specific to the application you are using.
[02:11] <chuckyp> GameZMember624, rather than the ubuntu support channel.
[02:11] <variant> Crazyl1nk: take advice from this channel with a pinch of salt, some (but not all) people here come accross as knowing much more than they actually do (me too probably! :))
[02:13] <GameZMember624> well i just wannak now how i can register my irc server in the official irc serverlist?
[02:13] <variant> Tokenbad: in that case do apt-get install cvs
[02:13] <webben> How can I run cp such that if when copying a symbolic link it creates a link to the original target in the new location, rather than creating a broken link or copying the original target?
[02:13] <Tokenbad> variant, thanks
[02:13] <variant> GameZMember624: for what program?
[02:13] <chuckyp> GameZMember624, maybe ask the people who maintain the list?
[02:13] <variant> GameZMember624: xchat?
[02:13] <GameZMember624> mIRC
[02:13] <GameZMember624> or xchat
[02:13] <XVampireX> !multimedia
[02:13] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:13] <Whhr> have you located the linux driver on the nvidia web site ?
[02:13] <variant> GameZMember624: tell mirc or xchat developers about your network.. on the xchat or mirc websites
[02:13] <Crazyl1nk> i already have my drivers yes i do
[02:13] <Whhr> ok is it a tar.gz file ?
[02:13] <chuckyp> I've had enough good night peoples
[02:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Has anyone in here cracked open their CRT monitor and adjusted it for focus? One of mine is all kinds of out of focus .
[02:13] <GameZMember624> ah so there is no official irc serverlist? you ii have to ask the program develoeprs if they can add ur irc server to their list?
[02:13] <volvoguy> morning all, any software RAID experts in the house?
[02:13] <variant> Crazyl1nk: there is installation documents on ubuntu wiki you should refer too as well as advice from here
[02:13] <variant> NineTeen67Comet: yes, it works very well
[02:14] <sokuban> So it seems my fat32 partition was 'unknown'
[02:14] <NineTeen67Comet> variant: I'm good with tools and working on stuff, is it cake? It's a Dell 19" ..
[02:14] <Crazyl1nk> im not sure what type of file it is sir
[02:14] <sokuban> how do I check if I made it succesfully?
[02:14] <Whhr> Crazylink : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33142
[02:14] <Crazyl1nk> all i can tell you is it ends in .run
[02:14] <cappe_> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub then it said Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 when I did a # sudo update-grub -- will it work you think?? looks like it to me..
[02:14] <XVampireX> !codecs
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <cappe_> has it printed GRUB to the MBR??
[02:15] <Whhr> ok have a look at this web page, think it solves your problem
[02:15] <Steven_M> hi all
[02:15] <Crazyl1nk> im looking at it right now
[02:15] <Crazyl1nk> thank you very much ^_^v
[02:15] <Whhr> can you follow the instructions
[02:16] <variant> NineTeen67Comet: i dont know about your specific monitor but yes its a peice of cake
[02:16] <variant> NineTeen67Comet: most have two finger-turnable knobs that you can use
[02:16] <sokuban> I used gnome's "disks" utility and apparantly it thinks me /usr partition is a swap partition. Every other app thinks it is ext3 why?
[02:16] <Whhr> does ubuntu ship with a text editor thats simpler to use than vi ?
[02:16] <variant> NineTeen67Comet: its for the staff on the production line to adjust but its not always accurate
[02:17] <Crazyl1nk> i can only follow them as much as i can read them
[02:17] <NineTeen67Comet> variant: cool .. I'll play with that as soon as this Edgy Eft iso is finished downloading .. I've got two video cards, and 4 monitors now . time to play ..
[02:17] <variant> Whhr: nano
[02:17] <volvoguy> it's officially friday and the server i was supposed to build by today (which I chatted about here a few days ago) still hasn't started.
[02:17] <variant> NineTeen67Comet: nice :)
[02:17] <usae> Whhr, gedit
[02:17] <hastesaver> !vi
[02:17] <variant> Whhr: nano -w /filename
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <cappe_> I will do a reboot now and prey it loads GRUB and then my Ubuntu :)
[02:17] <variant> !vim
[02:17] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[02:17] <NineTeen67Comet> variant: this is a used monitor, so I'm assuming it's just old .. I've got three of them running great, but xgl isn't happy with 4 .. lol
[02:17] <Whhr> ok when it comes to editing files, use nano -w XXXXX (where XXX is the file name to edit
[02:17] <Whhr> thanks guys... I always use vi..
[02:17] <variant> Whhr: correct
[02:17] <variant> Whhr: -w just turns off line wrapping, use it for config files
[02:18] <sokuban> If gnome's disks utility thinks my /usr partition is a swap partition is that bad?
[02:18] <sonics> uhm, how can I c what version of a specified program Ive got installed... dpkg -??????
[02:18] <Steven_M> What's the global equivalent of ~/.bashrc?
[02:18] <boink> dpkg -l|grep blah
[02:18] <sonics> thnx
[02:18] <volvoguy> I'm installing Dapper server edition and I want to put the whole OS on a pair of SCSI disks in RAID1 configuration. if I understand correctly, I need to use lilo as a bootloader to boot a configuration like this, yes?
[02:19] <sonics> boink: how would I upgrade vom gaim 1.5.0 to 2.0?
[02:20] <boink> depends if gaim 2.0 is in your ubuntu distro
[02:20] <boink> which ubuntu are you using
[02:20] <kuh-emu> Steven_M: /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:20] <boink> do an apt-cache search gaim to see which is the latest
[02:20] <usae> Whenever, i tried to configure the package: Gaim 2.0 , I get this error -> GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim .. Anyone can help me? (I've got 2.12.4)
[02:21] <sonics> boink: ok, one sec
[02:21] <boink> yes, you need GLiB 2.0 as it says
[02:21] <Steven_M> thanks kuh-emu :)
[02:21] <usae> boink, Between (), I've said I've got 2..12.4 ,, isn't that newer version? :S
[02:21] <boink> maybe you need to look at the configure options
[02:21] <sonics> boink: I dont c any new version there.. I got dapper installed
[02:22] <sonics> and current version is 1.5.xx
[02:22] <boink> you got dapper, what the output of apt-cache search gaim ?
[02:22] <Whhr> Crazyl1nk: if you come to a problem or something you dont understand just ask...
[02:22] <variant> sonics: apt-get update first
[02:23] <sonics> uhm, apt-cache search gaim doesnt result in any version nrs does it?
[02:23] <sonics> I did apt-get update before.
[02:23] <Crazyl1nk> i will thanks, reading ATM...
[02:23] <variant> sonics: no, so not very usefull :P
[02:23] <boink> apt-cache showpkg gaim
[02:24] <ptman> is there some documentation somewhere about how ubuntu accomplishes "live cd is install cd"
[02:24] <variant> thats such ugly output
[02:24] <variant> ptman: the live cd just contains a graphical installer..
[02:24] <hastesaver> apt-cache policy gaim
[02:24] <hastesaver> variant, less ugly?
[02:24] <Crazyl1nk> does the <name>: alert the person that a message is being sent to them?
[02:25] <variant> hastesaver: a little :)
[02:25] <ptman> variant: yes, but earlier the install and live cd were separate, and now both of those fit on one cd. so how does the live cd run the software from inside the .debs (or something, I dunno, that's what I'd like to know)
[02:25] <sonics> http://paste-bin.com/1045
[02:25] <Crazyl1nk> only one way to find out i guess
[02:25] <sonics> can u check it out plz boink!?
[02:25] <hastesaver> Crazyl1nk, by default, yes. Unless he has set it up not to
[02:26] <sonics> or hastesaver.. :D
[02:26] <Crazyl1nk> ahhh i see
[02:26] <variant> ptman: I don't know either, never looked into it. I excpect it just copies accross some of the binarys from the cd
[02:26] <TankEnMate> i know this is a stupid question, but what is the URI regular expression for packages on the wiki?
[02:26] <hid3> Hello everyone. I'm getting such error messages in dmesg: e100: eth2: e100_exec_cb_wait: ucode load failed. This happens randomly for all my e100 based network interfaces. After this, that interface "dies" (stops responding) and only a system reboot helps. What can be wrong? I've tried to change NICs but that did't help... I'm using 2.6.18.1
[02:27] <hastesaver> TankEnMate, what do you mean? Could you explain?
[02:27] <sonics> hastesaver: if canddate and installed are same, theres no newer version?
[02:27] <hastesaver> sonics, yes
[02:27] <Rookie_> !edgy
[02:27] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:28] <sonics> how comes someone was babbling about gaim2.xx here ;(?
[02:28] <Crazyl1nk> whhr: alright im in way over my head i feel like im trying to swim up a waterfall, i just dont know enough*if at all* about this new OS to do this alone
[02:28] <Rookie_> !schedule
[02:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:28] <TankEnMate> sonics: that is for eft
[02:28] <kuh-emu> sonics: what do you use gaim for?
[02:28] <variant> hid3: i dont know imediately about the errors but you shouldnt need to reboot to bring it back, just run rmmod e100; modprobe e100 to bring it back
[02:28] <sonics> m kuh-emu chatting, but Im thinking about to switch to ysm
[02:28] <sonics> oosp..
[02:28] <hastesaver> sonics, it means there is no newer version in the repositories. You could get out of the system and compile it yourself (or add different repos) or something
[02:28] <variant> hid3: which kinda suggests a bug in that driver module
[02:28] <kuh-emu> sonics: no, which protocol
[02:28] <hid3> variant: it's a pitty, but I'm using a "monolitic" kernel..
[02:28] <sonics> kuh-emu: icq
[02:29] <boink> dunno if edgy will have a newer gaim
[02:30] <variant> hid3: your not using the default ubuntu kernel?
[02:30] <kuh-emu> sonics: you might want centericq
[02:30] <boink> edgy will be released later this month
[02:30] <Maikel> end october?
[02:30] <variant> boink: in 6 days
[02:30] <variant> Maikel: 26th
[02:30] <Maikel> ah
[02:30] <Maikel> thx
[02:30] <hid3> variant: no, I've recompiled it myself
[02:30] <hastesaver> !info gaim edgy
[02:30] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[02:30] <variant> hid3: it definately sounds like a driver bug, i sugest upgrading the driver or if thats too much work upgrade the kernel to whatever version has a newer version of that driver in it
[02:30] <usae> Edgy Eft will be released on 26th
[02:30] <usae> of this month
[02:30] <usae> iirc
[02:30] <hastesaver> sonics, there you go. When you upgrade to edgy, you'll have the version 2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy)
[02:30] <variant> hid3: its exactly this kind of problem that makes using loadable modules a good thing, you could have upgraded the module without recompiling the whole kernel
[02:30] <boink> whoo! 26 October .. one week
[02:30] <hid3> variant: there's the latest kernel available now.
[02:30] <ufk> what are the 32 bit compatibility packages for the ubuntu edgy 64 bit?
[02:31] <variant> hid3: so go get it!
[02:35] <hid3> I already have it..
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to solve the delay in sound when viewing youtube videos and the like..
[02:35] <variant> hid3: ah!
[02:35] <hid3> unless there's somewhere a separate (newer) e100 driver module..
[02:35] <variant> hid3: problem, see if the project page for that driver points out any known bugs, ask on the mailing list and google for it
[02:35] <usae> Paddy_EIRE, have it ever worked? (without the delay in sound)
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> usae: I dont think so
[02:35] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: It's flash based crap.. destined to have this problem imo. I have never seen it not happen, on windows is same
[02:35] <Crazyl1nk> Whhr: ok i see that code is a huge role in getting these things to run, but i guess my biggest need is to know how to do this
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> variant: oh, ok
[02:35] <usae> I've never had a problem, where a sound skips or is delayed in windows in youtube.
[02:35] <TankEnMate> paddy: if you are really really game and know what you are doing you can try out the flash9 beta for linux, but it isn't packaged etc et al
[02:35] <usae> even in ubuntu atm
[02:35] <variant> usae: I have, it actualy works ok for me on gentoo
[02:35] <volvoguy> Paddy_EIRE, there's a new Flash 9 (perhaps beta) for Linux available that supposed to fix that.
[02:35] <TankEnMate> paddy: you could try adjusting your .asoundrc file, but it requires much voodoo
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> volvoguy: you say its beta is it stable?
[02:35] <variant> Paddy_EIRE: beta means not stable tbh
[02:35] <volvoguy> Paddy_EIRE, I don't know. I just read about it 5 minutes ago. :)
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[02:35] <TankEnMate> paddy: have you tried looking at your .asoundrc file?
[02:35] <Maikel> Can Ubuntu unpack RPM files with a GUI/clicking on the file or does it only has a command line?
[02:35] <usae> Maikel, afaik, only command line with the alien package
[02:35] <Rookie_> !rpm
[02:35] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:36] <usae> alien -d xxx (Where xxx is the filnemane)
[02:36] <usae> name *
[02:36] <Crazyl1nk> boy i wish i had a *Linux and GFX cards for dummies*
[02:36] <Maikel> ic, thanks.
[02:36] <TankEnMate> Maikel: i would suggest using alien to convert your RPM to a .deb and then installing it
[02:36] <Maikel> Okay, are there any plans to support RPM?
[02:36] <TankEnMate> Maikel: i doubt it
[02:37] <TankEnMate> very much.. about as much chance as redhat moving to .deb :)
[02:37] <jrib> Maikel: what program are you trying to install from an rpm?
[02:37] <apokryphos> Maikel: no, ubuntu is a deb-based system
[02:37] <usae> Maikel, never! :P
[02:37] <Maikel> nothing, im just new to ubuntu. And I wanted to know if it supported rpm
[02:42] <Afief> While booting i'm getting "error in block device dm-0" what does that mean?
[02:42] <TankEnMate> deb is better than RPM :)
[02:42] <apokryphos> TankEnMate: why do you think that?
[02:42] <Rookie_> why is deb better tehn rpm ?
[02:42] <usae> no doubt :)
[02:42] <jrib> Maikel: the repos should have most of what you want.  If they don't have something, then you should look for an ubuntu deb.  Do you know the basics about apt/synaptic?
[02:42] <volvoguy> I think it's pretty safe to say that anything packaged in RPM is also available as DEB. There are over 18k packages available!
[02:42] <usae> Afief, bad sector, perhaps!
[02:42] <Maikel> yes.
[02:42] <Crazyl1nk> Whhr, if you wouldnt mind im gonna need your help.
[02:42] <TankEnMate> Rookie_: mainly because the authors do a better job with dependancies
[02:42] <usae> volvoguy, AVG anti-virus doesn't have .deb package :P
[02:42] <Rookie_> i think tgz is the best pkg mangement
[02:42] <Afief> usae: bad sector where? i'm booting a live CD?
[02:42] <Crazyl1nk> crazyl1nk, la
[02:42] <apokryphos> TankEnMate: so deb isn't better than rpm....
[02:42] <Rookie_> just a mangement ....
[02:42] <TankEnMate> apokryphos, the tools make it easier to work with dependancies
[02:42] <apokryphos> TankEnMate: I really don't see that, rpm has some wonderful tools for the job.
[02:42] <usae> Afief, What is your main OS atm ?
[02:42] <TankEnMate> apokryphos, .spec files are ugly.. :(
[02:42] <Rookie_> *.gz and *.bz2 is not wrong either ....
[02:42] <_julian> hi all
[02:42] <apokryphos> TankEnMate: so are dscs
[02:42] <Afief> usae: on the HD i have not functioning windows(it's not my PC), i tried to boot a live CD to see where the problem is, and got that error during the boot
[02:42] <TankEnMate> apokryphos, if you don't have a template .spec file around it can be painful writing one from scratch..
[02:42] <volvoguy> usae, so i see.... i'm sure there are sufficient virus scanners available in the repos though. i can't help with that though as i've never had the need for one.
[02:42] <_julian> I just tried to install php5 on a fresh Ubuntu 6.0.6 server - did run apt-get update first and now it fails:
[02:42] <_julian> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2_amd64.deb  404 Not Found
[02:42] <compengi> !seen someothernick
[02:42] <ubotu> I haven't seen someothernick recently
[02:42] <TankEnMate> _julian: apt-get update
[02:42] <apokryphos> _julian: sudo apt-get update and then retry
[02:42] <_julian> TankEnMate: I did that a second ago
[02:42] <_julian> apokryphos: I am root
[02:42] <usae> volvoguy, I was just answering your question, since there are some packages, that doesn't have .deb package, and needs alien package to convert it
[02:42] <TankEnMate> Julian, maybe the pool hasn't caught up?
[02:42] <usae> Afief, Are you able to get into safe mode? (Windows)
[02:43] <apokryphos> _julian: so you don't need to prefix the command with sudo
[02:43] <_julian> TankEnMate: you mean my source is not uptodate?
[02:43] <_julian> apokryphos: that's what I wanted to say with that (c:
[02:43] <Afief> usae: no
[02:43] <volvoguy> usae, I understand.
[02:44] <_julian> http://pastebin.ca/211667 < that's my sources.list
[02:44] <usae> Afief, How is it not functioning, your windows, Do you get any on-screen error msg?
[02:44] <TankEnMate> _julian, no, there may be a newer package on the server but the packages list hasn't caught up with the files in the pool
[02:44] <trawler> anybody knows how i can burn a *.img file under gnome
[02:45] <Maikel> How old is the Ubuntu project by the way?
[02:45] <usae> trawler, gnomebaker does that fro you
[02:45] <TankEnMate> Maikel, 3 years
[02:45] <Afief> usae: nope, restarts at some point during the load process. and ubuntu gives me the error i mentioned while booting
[02:45] <apokryphos> Maikel: all in the FAQ
[02:45] <dou213> how can i setup a DF-connection on ubuntu?
[02:45] <Maikel> ah, ill look into that
[02:45] <apokryphos> !faq
[02:45] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[02:46] <_julian> TankEnMate: so what to do in that case?
[02:46] <Maikel> !help
[02:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:46] <TankEnMate> _julian, if that is the case, probably wait about 3 hours..
[02:46] <selinuxium> trying to add a folder to a network folder (ssh). I get Operation not permitted. THe remote folder is www-data|www-data 755 an dboth the local and remote user is a member of the www-data group. Any ideas?
[02:46] <TankEnMate> _julian, the i386 packages file has ubuntu3.3 for that deb...
[02:46] <selinuxium> hi apokryphos :)
[02:46] <apokryphos> hello
[02:46] <_julian> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/ < that shows that the new package (3.3) is alrady there for 10 days
[02:47] <TankEnMate> _julian, maybe the amd64 Packages file hasn't caught up yet.. it might be in the middle of a package rescan..
[02:47] <_julian> TankEnMate: ok, I will wait a bit then
[02:47] <bam_> Hi I was wondering if its my USB mass storage driver that suck or if it linux USB drivers that suck or if it is ubuntu that suck, but all my transfers to mass storage devices are real slow! Any thoughts???
[02:47] <TankEnMate> _julian, in that case the servers Packages file is way out of date..
[02:47] <TankEnMate> _julian, whats the url for your sources.list again?
[02:48] <_julian> http://pastebin.ca/211667
[02:48] <Afief> bam_ they always worked perfectly for me
[02:48] <kamo> I need help.
[02:48] <jrib> !helpme
[02:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:48] <Afief> kamo: don't ask for permission to ask, just ask
[02:49] <bam_> well it works perfectly for me too, but is goes really slow. Like 200 Kb/s. Thats not right....
[02:49] <kamo> Ok. I downloaded a .rar file and it has a password on it to open the file. I have the password but I can never find a way to put in the password before the error when I try to open the .rar file.
[02:49] <Smotang> 200kb/s is fast
[02:49] <jason> hi
[02:50] <jrib> kamo: on the command line you should be able to do 'unrar x file.rar'  does that work?
[02:50] <bderrly> kamo, if you're using unrar it should ask what the password is
[02:50] <jason> how do I set up adsl dialup connection?
[02:50] <TankEnMate> try changing your ftp.uni-erlangen.de host to de.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <zorba64> kamo, unrar e file.rar
[02:50] <bam_> 250 MB takes like 20 minutes....
[02:50] <bam_> thats not fast...
[02:50] <Chm0d> could anyone please please tell me how to completely get rid of mythtv?  I can't do any updates because of access denied error from the myth-database?
[02:50] <kamo> thanks
[02:50] <Afief> bam_: actually that's horrible if you ask me... but i never experienced that kind of thing
[02:51] <Chm0d> i have tried apt-get remove and i get that same error
[02:51] <usae> Chm0d, sudo apt-get remove --purge filename
[02:52] <TankEnMate> _julian, open the file with vi, then type %s/ftp.uni-erlangen.de\/mirrors/de.archive.ubuntu.com/g
[02:52] <_julian> TankEnMate: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:52] <Chm0d> will purge get rid of everything?
[02:52] <usae> Chm0d, it should.
[02:52] <TankEnMate> you need to remove the mirrors part of the url..
[02:52] <TankEnMate> _julian, the line you need is
[02:52] <_julian> ah sorry, missed that!
[02:52] <TankEnMate> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[02:53] <bam_> it says its going at about 200 kb/s ....but still taking 20 min....
[02:53] <bam_> ubuntu cant count....!
[02:53] <pdkl> hello
[02:53] <pdkl> i have a question
[02:53] <jason> how do I set up adsl dialup connection?
[02:53] <Chm0d> sorry usae thats a no go
[02:53] <pdkl> I have an intel core duo 2 6400 (or is it 4400) chip
[02:53] <usae> Chm0d, how did you install mytv in the first place?
[02:53] <pdkl> i wonder what version should i download?
[02:53] <Chm0d> apt-get
[02:53] <Chm0d> ill pastebin the error
[02:54] <pdkl> AMD64 bit version or the 32 bit?
[02:54] <volvoguy> ugh. got disconnected.
[02:54] <usae> pdkl, 64-bit
[02:54] <pdkl> the amd64 cd?
[02:54] <_julian> TankEnMate: hrm, still does refer to ubuntu3.2
[02:54] <volvoguy> nevermind about AVG - too many hoops to jump though, even on supported systems.
[02:54] <pdkl> though im on the core duo 2?
[02:54] <progek> does anyone know if open office can create UML diagrams?
[02:54] <usae> pdkl, core duo 2 is true 64-bit
[02:54] <Maikel> !fag Maikel
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fag Maikel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <usae> but core duo (without 2) has 32-bit
[02:55] <TankEnMate> _julian, just wait then, or manually downlad the package and put the .deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:55] <jason> !fag Maikel
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fag Maikel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <Maikel> !faq Maikel
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about faq Maikel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <jason> you wrote that bot Maikel?
[02:55] <_julian> TankEnMate: hmm, ok, I'll wait until this evening
[02:56] <Maikel> no
[02:56] <Chm0d> cheese whiz pastebin i ssllloooooowwwwww
[02:56] <jason> so nobody has succeeded in installing an adsl usb modem?
[02:56] <jrib> Chm0d: use pastebin.ca or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:56] <jrib> !dsl
[02:56] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:56] <volvoguy> wow. progek left fast. i still haven't has my question answered. lol.
[02:57] <usae> volvoguy, I've got a question, if you don't mind me asking
[02:57] <volvoguy> usae, shoot.
[02:57] <Maikel> !pastebin
[02:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:57] <Chm0d> http://pastebin.ca/211693
[02:57] <Maikel> Hmm, usefull irc bot
[02:57] <kamo> When I try to open the encrypted file that I have the password to, I get this message. "Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/kamo/Desktop/unrar x file.rar (password incorrect ?)" I get this before being able to put a password to open the file.
[02:58] <Chm0d> thx jrib
[02:58] <usae> volvoguy, I've plugged a webcam thru my usb, opened terminal, and typed 'lsusb' .. It shows me as Flexcam, my question is, How Do I install the driver for it (If there isn't any linux driver for it), should I get the windows driver for it?
[02:58] <TankEnMate> _jason, try this if you want..
[02:58] <Chm0d> thx for any help have to go afk for a few
[02:59] <jason> tank,try what?
[02:59] <TankEnMate> _julian, actually, if you aren't comfortable with manually installing packages its probably better to wait..
[02:59] <jason> from the link posted above,Confirm that your Ethernet card is detected.
[02:59] <jason> I don't have an ethernet card,its usb modem
[02:59] <TankEnMate> _julian, but if you don't mind learning a bit more about how packages work you can try doing a manual install
[03:00] <johso> does anybody know how I can revert every package back to the original dapper set? I've screwed around with my repos, and now some packages are newer versions, but not dapper versions, which creates a whole lot of dependency problems.
[03:00] <_julian> TankEnMate: I would like to keep that server clean, so I'd prefer waiting... it's not that I wouldn't be able to install a package manually! (c:
[03:00] <TankEnMate> _julian, ack.. wise move :)
[03:00] <jrib> jason: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28dsl%29
[03:00] <volvoguy> usae, i've had very mixed results with webcams in linux. Have you googled yet? I've had trouble even with identical models (not flexcam) but different revisions.
[03:00] <_julian> TankEnMate: yeah, makes things easier (c: - anyway thanks for your help
[03:01] <volvoguy> usae, which model do you have?
[03:01] <TankEnMate> _julian, no worries..
[03:01] <kamo> When I try to open the encrypted file that I have the password to, I get this message. "Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/kamo/Desktop/unrar x file.rar (password incorrect ?)" I get this before being able to put a password to open the file.
[03:01] <usae> volvoguy, but is it possible to install with a windows driver..?
[03:01] <jason> shnit,that list doensn't contain my modem,mine is billion bipacl 7000
[03:01] <jrib> ubotu: tell usae about webcam
[03:01] <usae> volvoguy, lsusb says -- Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04fc:0561 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100
[03:02] <volvoguy> usae, probabaly not, unless someone has written a "wrapper" for the windows driver like they do for wireless cards.
[03:02] <jrib> jason: that may just mean no other ubuntu user that has that modem has created a wiki page.  It may still work but you will have to read those docs, and probably google some more to get it to work
[03:02] <Jimmey> !wma
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:02] <snoops> hey, when I boot my pc, it says that on my two ext3 partitions (separate hdd's) that I have corrupted files... it does a check/scan..which takes forever. If I try to stop the process with ctrl+c the system wont continue booting. Is there a way to fix the hdds, or a way to turn off that kind of checking every time I boot?
[03:02] <usae> volvoguy, lsusb says -- Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04fc:0561 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100
[03:03] <usae> volvoguy, What if they haven't wrote any wrapper for the windows driver, that means i'm outta luck?
[03:03] <Jimmey> How can I play wma files?
[03:03] <jason> jrib, I saw some instructions which is like get get headers,recompile kernel,get windows driver and recompile it for ubuntu and such stuff
[03:03] <jason> Those stuff are too high tech for me
[03:04] <jrib> jason: is there no way to use your modem through ethernet?
[03:04] <bam_> Hi...I was wondering about the transfere rate between the linux filesystem and Fat32. Is it known to be slow?
[03:04] <volvoguy> usae, if there's no linux driver and it isn't supported "out of the box", you're probably out of luck.
[03:04] <jason> jrib,I don't have an ethernet card
[03:04] <compengi> Jimmey: see this https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/music.html#audio-cds
[03:05] <kamo> When I try to open the encrypted file that I have the password to, I get this message. "Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/kamo/Desktop/unrar x file.rar (password incorrect ?)" I get this before being able to put a password to open the file.
[03:05] <jrib> jason: hmm you can try searching ubuntuforums.org too.  afaik, you'll have to struggle a bit to get usb dsl to work
[03:05] <usae> volvoguy, alright, thanks for your time! Really appreciate it.
[03:05] <volvoguy> usae, i'm still looking... i see sunplus chipset info on google. :)
[03:05] <jason> I thought of using ubuntu for net surfing,that was the main purpose,now that can't be done it seems
[03:06] <usae> !webcam
[03:06] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:06] <jason> if the device manager shows my modem make,that means the modem driver is installed?
[03:06] <Maikel> I got a KDE question, does Kopete support webcam for MSN?
[03:07] <kamo> When I try to open the encrypted file that I have the password to, I get this message. "Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/kamo/Desktop/unrar x file.rar (password incorrect ?)" I get this before being able to put a password to open the file. How can I fix this problem?
[03:07] <volvoguy> usae, is there a line that starts with "USB_DEVICE" and has a set of numbers following?
[03:07] <jrib> jason: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2293 this might help get you started
[03:08] <usae> volvoguy, That's all i got in lsusb
[03:08] <mnepton> jason: does that modem have a standard RJ45 Ethernet port on it?
[03:08] <volvoguy> usae, try lsusb with a -v or -vv behind it.
[03:08] <steve> hi there, i'm having a problem with dns, usinbg ubuntu 6.06, websites are taking upto 30 seconds to reslove, has anybody experienced this?
[03:09] <volvoguy> usae, although it looks like a "Flexcam 100" is supported by this driver, and there's even an Ubuntu version - http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[03:09] <Jimmey> compengi, thanks
[03:09] <jason> jrib,thanks but I already went through that link,read about compiling source file from sourceforge
[03:09] <Lynoure> steve: have you tried with multiple dns servers?
[03:09] <Constrictor> steve: are you on a corporate lan or any lan of some sort?
[03:09] <compengi> Jimmey: np
[03:09] <jason> its like writing an OS for me
[03:09] <steve> i am on a lan
[03:09] <jason> I am a newbie
[03:10] <mnepton> jason: does that modem have a standard RJ45 Ethernet port on it?
[03:10] <steve> net connection is through a Dynamode router
[03:10] <Constrictor> steve: is there any ip filtering on this
[03:10] <volvoguy> usae, ok. maybe not the ubuntu part. they just have a picture on that page. :) looks like a compile-from-source deal.
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> Is there a cli audio file player on the live cd?
[03:10] <Jimmey> compengi, I've got all the gstreamer plugins installed, and it doesn't say anything on that page about how to play wma :(
[03:10] <cewek> ?????
[03:10] <steve> i have tried using multiple, yes
[03:10] <Jimmey> I have w32codecs aswell
[03:11] <kamo> When I try to open the encrypted file that I have the password to, I get this message. "Encrypted file:  CRC failed in /home/kamo/Desktop/unrar x file.rar (password incorrect ?)" I get this before being able to put a password to open the file. How can I fix this problem?
[03:11] <jason> mnepton,I don't know about that
[03:11] <jrib> Jimmey: what player are you trying to use?
[03:11] <mnepton> jason: well, take a look ;)
[03:11] <Jimmey> rythmbox
[03:11] <jason> mnepton,I just connect it to my USB port
[03:11] <Constrictor> steve: i have found this to be also a problem too. On my lan sits a firebox, acts as firewall, ip filtering and such
[03:11] <usae> volvoguy, got the link for flexcam 100 if you don't mind?
[03:11] <Constrictor> it takes a few seconds to resolve
[03:11] <jason> mnepton,I am at office now,will take a look when I reach home later
[03:11] <timhaughton> [Slightly OT]  Anyone know of a BitTorrent daemon?
[03:11] <cewek> ???
[03:11] <mnepton> jason: RJ-45 looks like RJ-11 (phone cable), except wider
[03:12] <compengi> Jimmey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:12] <mnepton> jason: what's the make/model again?
[03:12] <steve> i have a windows xp box running on the same network which doesnt seem to suffer in the same way
[03:12] <Constrictor> it's not just on ubuntu because i have windows boxes on the network as well and they have the same problems too
[03:12] <volvoguy> usae, i think you'd want this one - http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/gspcav1-20060925.tar.gz
[03:12] <jason> billion bipack 7000 USN ADSL modem
[03:12] <cewek> hallo
[03:12] <jason> USB**,sorry
[03:12] <steve> hmm
[03:12] <cewek> what are you mind
[03:12] <Constrictor> steve, sorry no idea
[03:13] <volvoguy> usae, since i don't have that cam, i probably can't help much with compilation and setup.
[03:13] <repabil> hi
[03:13] <cewek> halo ganteng kenalan dongh
[03:13] <cewek> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:13] <jason> my device manager shows the modem with the name billion bipac,that means the driver is installed for that?
[03:13] <steve> Constrictor, thanks for trying anyway
[03:13] <steve> it may be something to do with the way ubuntu resolves
[03:14] <volvoguy> and since nobody answered my question, i need to go figure out my problem myself. :) hope i could help!
[03:14] <slavik> yo
[03:14] <cewek> hei you wong crazy get out
[03:14] <Lynoure> steve: if you try with same domain names on the second computer, it can be that it is faster because something caches the dns results
[03:14] <demo_> Can I change the names in the menus?
[03:14] <steve> i have read elsewhere that it has something to do with IPv6
[03:14] <cewek> uoi man
[03:14] <slavik> demo_, names of what?
[03:14] <cewek> what nenenene
[03:14] <TankEnMate> ciao!
[03:14] <cewek> kurang ajar lu
[03:14] <Constrictor> possibly
[03:14] <cewek> siapa nama elu
[03:14] <kamo> I need help please.
[03:14] <cmoney> me too
[03:14] <demo_> slavik, of the programs in the menus. For instance, Aislerot Solitaire to say "Kabal"?
[03:15] <Constrictor> but i have found that it's primarilly through the http protocol that resolution slows down
[03:15] <cewek> eh yang bener ya gua ini rada crazy lho
[03:15] <steve> Lynoure, are you saying that i need to configure dns caching on ubuntu?
[03:15] <LjL> !helpme
[03:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:15] <cewek> hei cmoney you like monkey
[03:15] <Lynoure> cewek, in English, please.
[03:15] <slavik> demo_, yes you can ... applications -> accessories -> Alacarte menu editor :) (I think)
[03:15] <mnepton> jason: there is a Linux driver here - http://www.billion.com/support/download/fd/fd1.htm
[03:15] <LjL> cewek, we speak english here... what is your langauge? there is probably a channel for it
[03:15] <cewek> hei siapa elu kulo niki wong toto
[03:16] <jrib> Jimmey: I think you may have to use a different player for wma
[03:16] <cewek> iam a javanese
[03:16] <jason> mnepton,after downloading it,what do I do?
[03:16] <cmoney> having problems setting up Kerberos - keep getting dep errors
[03:16] <slavik> cewek, ohoyoo gazai masu. :)
[03:16] <mnepton> jason: read the instructions included in the .zip file
[03:16] <cewek> hei come aprizement
[03:16] <jason> its rpm
[03:16] <mnepton> jason: and that URL is the first result in a Google search for "billion bipac 700" ;)
[03:16] <fast1> what's the quickest way of getting xgl working in edgy?
[03:16] <demo_> nice. Thanks slavik :)
[03:16] <mnepton> *7000
[03:16] <Lynoure> steve: I do not know your LAN, but if you e.g. have an adsl modem, those often cache dns, making the second request a whole lot faster.
[03:17] <jrib> ubotu: tell fast1 about xgl
[03:17] <LjL> !xgl > fast1
[03:17] <kamo> How can I set a password so that I can open a .rar file???
[03:17] <cewek> i have aproblem iwant to find some one.  any one can help me
[03:17] <jason>  mnepton,that driver is rpm and I am a newbie trying to make a switch from windows to unix
[03:17] <mnepton> jason: i see no rpm
[03:17] <Jimmey> jrib, which?
[03:17] <Bybeb> what is "LTS"
[03:17] <jrib> !lts
[03:17] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:17] <jason> ttp://60.248.77.180/_Internet/fd/bipac-7000/BILLION-RedHat-71i386.rpm
[03:18] <whyso> eclipse wont boot up, and when i look where it says to check the error message, anything past ythe /.eclipse direcroty doesnt exist :( ive tried reinstalling any help plz?
[03:18] <mnepton> jason: click the link i gave you
[03:18] <cewek> hei anyone answer me
[03:18] <volvoguy> cewek, what is your question?
[03:18] <jason> ok
[03:18] <yama> kamo: the command line version of rar can do it
[03:18] <mnepton> jason: the driver for Linux for the Billion Bipac 7000 on the page there is not an rpm
[03:18] <Lynoure> whyso, try creating it?
[03:18] <Constrictor> cewek: what is your problem?
[03:18] <cewek> i need help to found some one
[03:19] <snoops> hey, when I boot my pc, it says that on my two ext3 partitions (separate hdd's) that I have corrupted files... it does a check/scan..which takes forever. If I try to stop the process with ctrl+c the system wont continue booting. Is there a way to fix the hdds, or a way to turn off that kind of checking every time I boot?
[03:19] <kamo> yama: where can i get that version?
[03:19] <whyso> what do i do? just download it in put it in the .eclipse folder?
[03:19] <steve> Lynoure: ok thanks, so you think that maybe i should be looking at the router as source of issue, not ubuntu?
[03:19] <mnepton> snoops: let the check finish
[03:19] <Maikel> Maybe it would be btter for cewek to use the javanese ubuntu chan, if there is one.
[03:19] <whrr> yup run the check, fsck...
[03:19] <cewek> hey what you say for
[03:19] <Lynoure> steve: That would be my first guess, yes
[03:19] <Constrictor> my first guess too steve
[03:19] <snoops> mnepton it does the check EVERY time I boot
[03:19] <jason> mnepton,trying to dl it,three min left
[03:20] <snoops> which means, a 15+ minute wait
[03:20] <sonics> hmm, can anyone tell me when I use xine, the video itself runs just fine but the graphics of the xine control gui are wicked :(((
[03:20] <whrr> can some one http://rjh.gotdns.com, see if my router config is working ?
[03:20] <yama> kamo: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:20] <brasko> hi, I just installed xubuntu, then installed all the updated packages, and rebooted
[03:20] <mnepton> snoops: have you let the check complete itself? booted nto recovery mode and run e2fsck on the volumes?
[03:20] <brasko> now I want to install mutt
[03:20] <brasko> but I get
[03:20] <brasko> apt-get install mutt
[03:20] <cewek> i will kill you
[03:20] <brasko> mutt: Depends: libidn11 (>= 0.5.18) but it is not installable
[03:20] <snoops> I've let the check complete about 10 times
[03:20] <kamo> yama: thanks ^__^
[03:20] <mnepton> !ops
[03:20] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:20] <jrib> brasko: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <Hobbsee> mnepton: ?
[03:20] <cewek> sial ndak ada yang balas
[03:20] <mnepton> ^^
[03:21] <snoops> e2fsck -t ext3 right? because they're ext3, not ext2.. I heard just running e2fsck can really screw things up
[03:21] <snoops> and how do you boot into recovery mode mnepton?
[03:21] <sonics> anyone know on what to do when xine gui aint displayed correctly??!
[03:21] <mnepton> snoops: hit ESC at the GRUB prompt
[03:22] <boink> s/aint/isn't/ .. tsk, tsk
[03:22] <edgy> Hi, I am reading "On Linux, the error constants are listed in the errno(3) manual page." how can I get this man page in ubuntu? which package?
[03:22] <brasko> jrib: pastebin.com?
[03:22] <GNAM> THE FEISTY FAWN
[03:23] <jrib> brasko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is probably faster
[03:23] <brasko> jrib: yeah, it's extremly slow :)
[03:23] <volvoguy> i had a feisty fawn in my backyard earler.
[03:23] <snoops> oh, right, that recovery mode.. mnepton thanks.. so boot into recovery mode..and run what exactly on the hdd's? "e2fsck -t ext3 /dev/sdb1" and replace my /dev with an appropriate one?
[03:23] <mnepton> 'zackly
[03:23] <brasko> jrib: much nicer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27473/
[03:23] <Bybeb> I downloaded ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso but Nero burning ROM says "this is not a valid Nero disc image file"
[03:24] <Constrictor> Bybeb: try ultraiso
[03:24] <Maikel> use another iso burner. like ultraiso
[03:24] <Constrictor> bybeb, or deepburner
[03:24] <jason> thanks guys for the help,I'll try following the instructions in readme
[03:24] <abyss> lo, anyone can help me to configure my tightvnc-server for use gnome instead of that terrible background and 1 terminal?
[03:24] <whrr> Bybeb just open up nero burning rom, and click file>Open> select all file types and pick the ISO file... it will open up dialog and just click Burn
[03:24] <brasko> Bybeb: I used nero last night to burn the xubuntu desktop image, it worked perfectly.
[03:24] <mnepton> Bybeb: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[03:24] <brasko> Bybeb: Did you choose teh "burn image" option?
[03:25] <Maikel> ^
[03:25] <Bybeb> brasko: yep
[03:25] <jrib> brasko: you have the dapper main repositories commented out.  You'll need to uncomment those or just use system > administration > software sources
[03:25] <brasko> jrib: I'm command line only.
[03:25] <volvoguy> Bybeb, did you check the md5 file? perhaps your download was corrupted.
[03:25] <Bybeb> dont know how md5 works
[03:25] <whrr> lol
[03:25] <Bybeb> ill redownload
[03:26] <brasko> jrib: exactly which line should I uncomment?
[03:26] <jrib> brasko: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list    just remove initial # from line2 (remove it from deb-src if you want that too).  Then sudo apt-get update
[03:26] <mnepton> Bybeb: read the URL i gave you. it explains md5summing and burning the ISO with freeware.
[03:26] <brasko> ok, thanks!
[03:26] <brasko> jrib: I'll probably have a lot more to update, eh?
[03:26] <Bybeb> oh nevermind, the download wasn't complete
[03:27] <Belutz> can anyone point me a tutorial how to connect to GPRS network using handphone and bluetooth from ubuntu?
[03:27] <Bybeb> :)
[03:27] <volvoguy> Bybeb, just type "md5sum file.iso" and it'll spit out a long string in a minute. check that string against the md5 file on the download page.
[03:27] <Touqen> Hey, does anyone know what I would use to initialize a partition?
[03:27] <jrib> brasko: yeah.  Do you know about universe and multiverse as well?  There is alot more software available if you enable those two repositories
[03:27] <brasko> jrib: thanks, mutt is installing now
[03:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell brasko about repos
[03:28] <jrib> brasko: np
[03:28] <mnepton> Touqen: sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:28] <brasko> has anyone installed mutt lately? it wants to know the "general type of configuration"
[03:29] <Touqen> mnepton: that's gtk isn't it?
[03:29] <mnepton> Touqen: aye
[03:29] <volvoguy> ok. off to go figure out booting a RAID array. later all
[03:29] <Touqen> don't have x on this machine
[03:30] <ikonia> how can you "name" a disk under ubuntu. In the same way you can label a disk under say windows as "boot disk" so that in explorer it says "C:\ boot disk"
[03:30] <mnepton> Touqen: parted and mkfs-ext3
[03:30] <steve> Lynoure: thanks for your info, slightly off topic, i can't seem to see any DNS options on the router apart from 'Dynamic DNS client', which is used to interact with DynDNS, not sure where on the router i should be looking
[03:31] <_julian> is there a package that automatically installs a basic build-environment on ubuntu (gcc, headers, ...)
[03:31] <slavik> !libflashplayer.so
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libflashplayer.so - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <whyso> when i try to start eclipse it errors, and tells me to check a log file, but theres nothing in the direcroty, coiuld anyone help?
[03:31] <snoops> _julian build-essential
[03:32] <_julian> snoops: thanks
[03:32] <slavik> hmm, anyone know which package provides that file?
[03:32] <mnepton> slavik: flashplayer-nonfree
[03:32] <bderrly> slavik, google for linux flash 9 and download that
[03:32] <slavik> ty
[03:33] <bderrly> much better than the flash 7 you'll get from dapper
[03:33] <whrr> can some one try http://rjh.gotdns.com/ and tell me if dns http works ?
[03:34] <GNAM> Ubuntu's Feisty release will put the spotlight on multimedia enablement and desktop effects
[03:34] <GNAM> WOW
[03:35] <jrib> whrr: I go to synios software
[03:35] <whrr> cool thanks... was it slow or anything ?
[03:35] <jrib> !flash9
[03:35] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[03:36] <whrr> very cool, thanks alot jrib.
[03:38] <mnepton> hrm. people not on i386 will be disappointed in that Flash9 URL ;)
[03:38] <_julian_> hmm, what sources should I add to get common packages like libcrypt-cbc-perl? - I currently have these: http://pastebin.ca/211667
[03:38] <Maikel> Wow the working with you desktop ubuntu doc is big, but very usefull.
[03:38] <LjL> whrr: fast enough, though i can notice by eye that it's a redirect
[03:38] <jrib> ubotu: tell _julian_ about universe
[03:39] <_julian_> jrib: thanks (c:
[03:39] <LjL> _julian_: be sure to add universe to *all* repositories, including security and updates
[03:39] <Touqen> mnepton: thank you
[03:39] <_julian_> LjL: yep, I'll take care of!
[03:40] <edgy> jrib: what should the line to add the flash repo looks like: just http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/?
[03:40] <ufk> is there a java 32 bit compatability package for a ubuntu 64 bit edgy
[03:40] <edgy> jrib: I am getting malformed url
[03:40] <jk_work> I get module requirements mismatch for radeon on edgy
[03:40] <jrib> edgy: your name is edgy, do you happen to be using edgy eft?
[03:40] <Seveas> edgy, just click on the url ;)
[03:41] <mluser-work> Does anyone know if there is a .deb package for flash 9 available for ubuntu/kubuntu yet?
[03:41] <LjL> !flash9 > mluser-work
[03:41] <mluser-work> thanks :)
[03:41] <Maikel> !flash > Maikel
[03:41] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[03:41] <edgy> jrib: yes I am using edgy eft ;)
[03:42] <jk_work> Has anybody reported problems with Radeon on edgy?
[03:42] <jrib> edgy: then you will want to go to http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy-seveas/custom/ in your browser
[03:42] <jrib> jk_work: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[03:43] <Gabby_Hayes> am trying to send a file from an ubuntu (dapper) computer, to another computer (Xandros) using the url (http://192.168.xx.yy) method. (nautilus-sendto crashes)
[03:43] <jk_work> jrib: Thanks
[03:43] <richie> Hey can anyone explain to me how i can extract from a .rar archive as sudo apt-get install rar no longer seems to work
[03:43] <edgy> Seveas, jrib: thx for the tip
[03:43] <bderrly> richie, apt-get install unrar
[03:43] <LjL> richie: you need "sudo apt-get install unrar", and you need multiverse enabled
[03:44] <richie> bderrly: tried that, same results
[03:44] <LjL> jk_work, for suspicions about users' advice, please join #ubuntu-skeptics
[03:44] <richie> LjL can you please tell me how to enable the multiverse
[03:44] <LjL> !multiverse > richie
[03:45] <bderrly> richie, check the pm for info about multiverse
[03:45] <bderrly> after you enable multiverse then you can apt-get unrar
[03:45] <Gabby_Hayes> any ideas on how to get a file from a floppy disk onto a network printer?  (printer is on a computer w/o a floppy drive)
[03:45] <edgy> Seveas: this is the plugin where can I find the player please?
[03:45] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: err...
[03:46] <Gabby_Hayes> LjL .. my  "nautilus-sendto" crashes .. it is a reported bug
[03:46] <frogzoo> any way to control an ATI vid card's fan speed/clock speed  ?
[03:48] <richie> LjL the links explained what the multiverse was but had no mention of how to enable?
[03:48] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: ah, so you *can* access the printer from a floppy-drive-equipped computer =) i wasn't sure from what you said ;)  dunno, i have a networked printer, but then i don't use gnome, my printer's computer is on debian...
[03:48] <Gabby_Hayes> richie  .. use a text editor to open the /etc/apt/sources.list  file,  and add the optin (or uncomment it)
[03:49] <LjL> richie: look at the second link - it's there
[03:49] <Gabby_Hayes> the printer is on a xandros (debian-based) .. the floppy is on a ubuntu computer
[03:49] <ingegnerlillo> hi guys
[03:50] <ingegnerlillo> I have a problem trying to canghe gdm theme
[03:50] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: alright, so in gnome you have a "send to / network printer"? or is it a "send to / other computer"? (which doesn't work anyway, alright)
[03:50] <Bybeb> gonna try ubunto for the first time, looks promising!
[03:50] <Bybeb> ubuntu*
[03:50] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: i'm asking because if you're simply trying to send it to the other computer, 1) there are other possible ways  2) you could probably access the networked printer directly
[03:50] <Gabby_Hayes> let me recheck as to what it actualy says  (have 6 computers here)
[03:50] <ingegnerlillo> gdmsetup said me "Could not access GDM configuration file."
[03:50] <ingegnerlillo> also runned as root
[03:50] <ingegnerlillo> some ideas?
[03:51] <selinuxium> trying to add a folder to a network folder (ssh). I get Operation not permitted. THe remote folder is www-data|www-data 755 an dboth the local and remote user is a member of the www-data group. Any ideas?
[03:51] <|_SpY_|> i use apt-get update and upgrade to update my files.. and he update php to new version.... but in the new version my php+mysql has very very slowly ... how i roll back a version of php to the old version?
[03:51] <bderrly> selinuxium, yes, you don't have write permission for the group
[03:51] <bderrly> selinuxium, if you want a member of the group to be able to add files and directories you need to chmod 775 it
[03:52] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: this is a howto on network printing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu -- although clearly it assumes you're on ubuntu on both the client and the server, but then i'm not sure there'd be much difference for your xandros server
[03:52] <selinuxium> bderrly: of course. doh!
[03:52] <aoupi> hi, I'd like to add a user that has no password. how do I do that?
[03:52] <edgy> Seveas, jrib: i installed it but about:plugins in firefox still show old version 7
[03:52] <LjL> Gabby_Hayes: or, if you're just in a hurry and want to get the document to the other machine, and have no file or printer sharing set up at all, you could probably just use netcat to do the file transfer
[03:53] <Seveas> edgy, find ~/.mozilla -name '*flash*'
[03:53] <Seveas> what doesthat output?
[03:53] <agent> how does one delay the loading of a module at boot?
[03:53] <bderrly> edgy, you probably need to rm the symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.o
[03:54] <selinuxium> bderrly: Cheers for that! :)
[03:54] <edgy> Seveas:
[03:54] <edgy> .mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
[03:54] <edgy> .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[03:54] <selinuxium> Hi there Seveas :)
[03:54] <Seveas> edgy, remove those files and restart firefox
[03:54] <bderrly> selinuxium, np :)
[03:54] <|_SpY_|> i use apt-get update and upgrade to update my files.. and he update php to new version.... but in the new version my php+mysql has very very slowly ... how i roll back a version of php to the old version?
[03:55] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs,  LjL ... or install a floppy drive on the printer server  :-(
[03:55] <Gabby_Hayes> trying to get CUPS to help  :-(
[03:55] <michoelc> Hi all. I am getting an error while booting up: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.16.7/modules.dep No such file or directory. And then my modules don't start. Can someone help. TIA.
[03:56] <_julian_> hrm, I ran again into a packge not found problem. this time it's awstats!
[03:56] <jrib> edgy: what version does http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ say?
[03:56] <jrib> !info awstats
[03:56] <edgy> Seveas: I did and still same problem
[03:56] <ubotu> awstats: powerful and featureful web server log analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5-1ubuntu1.2 (dapper), package size 833 kB, installed size 4636 kB
[03:57] <jrib> _julian_: do you have dapper main enabled?
[03:57] <bderrly> edgy, does about:plugins show two flash plugins?
[03:57] <Seveas> edgy, find /usr/lib/firefox -name '*flash*' | xargs ls -l
[03:57] <_julian_> jrib: yep, you can see my sources.list here: http://pastebin.ca/211769
[03:57] <|_SpY_|> i use apt-get update and upgrade to update my files.. and he update php to new version.... but in the new version my php+mysql be very very slowly ... how i roll back a version of php to the old version?
[03:58] <_julian_> and I just run apt-get update
[03:58] <edgy> bderrly: it shows
[03:58] <edgy>     File name: libflash-mozplugin.so
[03:58] <edgy>     Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0
[03:58] <ingegnerlillo> ehm, sorry guys, no idea about: Could not access GDM configuration file.?
[03:58] <jrib> _julian_: it should work... you check for typos maybe?
[03:59] <edgy> Seveas: # find /usr/lib/firefox -name '*flash*' | xargs ls -l
[03:59] <edgy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 2006-09-16 23:13 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so -> ../../mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
[03:59] <timhaughton> What's the best way to run an Subversion server on an Ubuntu Server? Add a script in init.d?
[03:59] <Seveas> edgy, yeah, you installed libflash-mozplugin orwhatever
[03:59] <Seveas> remove that
[03:59] <edgy> jrib: that link shows the version information box as blank
[03:59] <Teabagg> Does Ubuntu have KDE
[04:00] <whazilla> kubuntu
[04:00] <jrib> edgy: heh weird but I think seveas found the real problem
[04:00] <_julian_> jrib: it wants to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/awstats/awstats_6.5-1ubuntu1.1_all.deb, but theres only a newer package there...
[04:00] <Teabagg> Does Ubutu have KDE Or have to download some package or installation for it?
[04:00] <jrib> ubotu: tell Teabagg about kde
[04:00] <_julian_> I have the same problem with php5-packages
[04:00] <whazilla> kubuntu is kde
[04:00] <Bagoor> Anybody knows a DNS server address which will be public, any anyone can use it ?
[04:00] <whazilla> and the package are installeble on ubuntu to
[04:00] <jrib> _julian_: what's the exact error you get from apt?
[04:00] <edgy> Seveas: I will do but shouldn't your package prompt to remove that automatically?
[04:01] <Seveas> no
[04:01] <edgy> Seveas: since that can't live together
[04:01] <_julian_> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/211775 that's the whole output
[04:03] <selinuxium> Seveas: edgy: is there a new linux version of flash out there then?
[04:04] <jrib> _julian_: try apt-get update again
[04:04] <Teabagg> whazilla i'm using Ubuntu and don;t have kubuntu. and where is the package install for KDE
[04:04] <_julian_> jrib: no change
[04:04] <bderrly> selinuxium, yes, a beta version of flash 9
[04:05] <bderrly> it isn't quite as stable as 7 but it is much better quality
[04:05] <edgy> Seveas: I can't remove it. I tried: apt-get remove --purge libflash-mozplugin but it's still there!
[04:05] <jrib> _julian_: I think it might be server side, someone was having problems earlier with security
[04:05] <selinuxium> bderrly: were from! :)
[04:05] <bderrly> there is no sync problems with audio/video
[04:05] <boni> can anyone help me install the default ubuntu splash screen which appears before gnome starts up???
[04:05] <bderrly> selinuxium, google linux flash 9
[04:05] <_julian_> jrib: is there any alternative server I could use?
[04:06] <bderrly> edgy, if you do `sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree` it should prompt you to remove the mozplugin deb
[04:06] <boni> i instaled setting up a diff splash screen but it wasnt working properly so i removed the usplash directory after setting up libbogl
[04:06] <michoelc> Hi. Sorry for asking again.. but I am very desperate now.. When I boot up I get a message can't load /lib/modules/../modules.dep..No such file.. after googling it sees I somehow messed up the kernel. How can I fix this up? TIA.
[04:06] <edgy> bderrly: it doesn't
[04:07] <edgy> bderrly: Seveas even confirmed it shouldn't!
[04:07] <mikeymike-linux> how do i figure out where my /boot is located in terms of (hdx,x)
[04:07] <mikeymike-linux> i believe its hd0,X
[04:07] <mikeymike-linux> i dont know what partition it is
[04:07] <jrib> _julian_: you could use the package in main and not from security, though that might be a security risk.  I don't remember the xact apt syntax for taht at the moment
[04:07] <bderrly> edgy, that is what it did for me a few days ago
[04:07] <mikeymike-linux> it would be /dev/sda1
[04:07] <mikeymike-linux> but what does that mean in terms of hdx,x
[04:08] <boni> n then reconfigured kernel using dpkg-reconfigure but nw thrs no splash screen only diff daemon start up with no splash screen how can i revert to the original ubuntu spalsh screen??? pls help
[04:08] <aoupi> anyone know how to switch keyboard layout at the gdm login screen?
[04:09] <boni> can anyone help me install the default ubuntu splash screen which appears before gnome starts up???
[04:09] <bderrly> edgy, did you try `sudo dpkg --purge libflash-mozplugin`?
[04:10] <bderrly> or even `sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends libflash-mozplugin`
[04:10] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[04:11] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:12] <boni> Dr-willis: thts not helping cos it tells u how to install it but nt how to revert to original config of the default ubuntu start up screen after the grub stage
[04:12] <Dr_willis> boni,  no clue.. i normally disable that Ugly thing totally.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> boni,  i am guessing the origial files are thee somewhere.. you just need to remake the correct links.
[04:13] <Zaggynl> My update tool is stuck at 'Downloading package information' for a while now :(
[04:13] <Teabagg> What linux you guys are using > the Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[04:13] <Zaggynl> Ubuntu
[04:13] <Maikel> this is for Ubuntu so I think ubuntu..
[04:13] <Dr_willis> I normally install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <deadkode> anyone have any idea what the gkrellm type program in the righthand side of this screenshot is? http://puggy.symonds.net/~praveen/journal-images/gnome-desktop.png
[04:14] <jrib> _julian_: do you use i386?
[04:14] <boni> Dr_willis: i was thinking of tht i only needed the link of those files so tht i can add them
[04:14] <_julian_> jrib: no, amd64
[04:15] <Teabagg> DR-willis so you install both first ub then kub ?
[04:15] <bderrly> deadkode, gdesklets or adesklets
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Teabagg,  yes
[04:15] <bderrly> looks like gdesklets
[04:15] <deadkode> bderrly: thanks a lot :)
[04:15] <Teabagg> do you guys get the free cd?
[04:15] <Maikel> think gdesklets too yea.
[04:15] <Teabagg> 5 Kubuntu CDs (5 PC Edition)?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Teabagg,  faster to download it.
[04:16] <Maikel> depends on internet connection
[04:16] <Dr_willis> when shipping times can be in the months... its faster to download it. :)
[04:16] <Maikel> ah
[04:16] <Maikel> but it can also be 2-3 days
[04:16] <Dr_willis> faster still - get a friend with a copy to make a copy for ya.
[04:17] <jrib> _julian_: do you understand how apt figures out that url?  I thought it used packages.gz, do you know if that is correct?
[04:17] <ianmacgregor> deadkode: That looks like Superkaramba to me
[04:17] <Dr_willis> or the linux magazines often have a cd of it.. or the local libary.
[04:17] <_julian_> jrib: I think so, too
[04:17] <Teabagg> how much cd to burn it
[04:17] <Maikel> local libary, creative :P
[04:18] <jrib> _julian_: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz is different than what you are fetching, can you read yours in /var/cache/apt/ and see if it is the same?
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Ive seen people in here that order 100+ shipit cd's then leave them at the library in a box with a sign/docs/information
[04:18] <Maikel> O_o
[04:18] <Teabagg> I give them around friends/ strangers / etc
[04:19] <Maikel> homeless
[04:19] <Teabagg> :)
[04:19] <Teabagg> exactly
[04:19] <timhaughton> What's the best way to run an Subversion server on an Ubuntu Server? Add a script in init.d?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> ive given out about a dozen different live cd's to guys at work
[04:19] <frogzoo> is anyone else having problems with WoW locking up ? sound/video freeze - network is still active ?
[04:19] <Maikel> Useful
[04:19] <zlaja> does anyone have tutorial for nvidia + xgl on amd 64 bit with ubuntu 64 bit version?
[04:19] <Maikel> try googling
[04:19] <_julian_> jrib: will check, one sec
[04:19] <Dr_willis> best way to text XGL is with a live cd.. so you can easially disable the headache-causing eye candy. ;)
[04:20] <rambo3> zlaja try beryl forums
[04:20] <zlaja> ok
[04:21] <Teabagg> Does kubuntu combine with ubuntu? Does it need to have ubuutu install first?
[04:21] <jrib> _julian_: I assume it saves the file somewhre in there but idk
[04:21] <edgy> bderrly: thx a lot the dpkg --purge worked I guess. I will try now ...
[04:22] <bderrly> edgy, :)
[04:22] <edgy> Teabagg: yes they go very well together
[04:23] <Maikel> is there some workaround with google auto-refering you to www.google.xx if you dns ends with .xx?
[04:23] <mikeymike-linux> i just edited my menu.lst file and i want to apply the changes made to my bootsector
[04:23] <mikeymike-linux> how do i do this?
[04:23] <Icer> hallou:)i have a little problem with ubuntu:(
[04:23] <mikeymike-linux> grub-install?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> mikeymike-linux,  if you edited that file.. they are allready changed
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> Dr_willis, i dont have to run grub-install?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> mikeymike-linux,  you can run update-grub if you want
[04:24] <Dr_willis> mikeymike-linux,  reboot and see. :)
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> Dr_willis, what does that do
[04:24] <bderrly> Icer, asking a question helps
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> update-grub
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> that generates the list
[04:24] <Dr_willis> depends on the changes i guess.. but grub reads that file to set what menu items and stuff to show.. thats whats so nice about grub.
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> i dont want that :(
[04:24] <selinuxium> bderrly: Cheers installed and running. YouTube here I come!
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> Dr_willis, ok i wasn't sure
[04:24] <mikeymike-linux> Dr_willis, :) i will reboot and see :D
[04:24] <Icer> i have upgraded from warty to hoary but something went wrong and my X Server has problem
[04:25] <bderrly> selinuxium, double :) i was watching youtube like made last night enjoying the synced goodness
[04:25] <Icer> It makes waves on the screen
[04:25] <bderrly> Icer, does X load?
[04:25] <bderrly> or error and take you to console
[04:25] <mikeymike-linux> Dr_willis, what im trying to figure out is if i put the right (hdx,x)
[04:25] <mikeymike-linux> for my splashimage
[04:25] <Icer> bderrly...i think so...where can i check in dmesg?
[04:26] <mikeymike-linux> /boot is mounted on /dev/sda1
[04:26] <bderrly> Icer, you can check by looking at your screen and seeing if X is running :)
[04:26] <bderrly> Dr_willis, you are sick of it because you're jealous you didn't just get paid $1.6B
[04:26] <bderrly> :-P
[04:26] <Icer> bderrly:yes i am in gnome...but with waves and with bad resolution
[04:27] <mikmu> Hello, I've installed edgy successfully, everything runs fine, X and gnome work great.  After installing the xen packages, with it's accompanying kernel, X no longer functions, giving me (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth.  Is it possible that I have to add support for my video card into the kernel?
[04:28] <Icer> bderrly:i reinstalled all gnome...but made no effect:(
[04:28] <bderrly> Icer, it sounds like you may need to edit your X config or run the automated thingy
[04:28] <nickspoon> what
[04:28] <nickspoon> 's this about nvidia security problems?
[04:29] <republicansrnazi> is there a better step by step tutorial for ubuntu server than the pdf on the help.ubuntu page....???....
[04:30] <Icer> bderrly:ok actually i typed dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org ...but no effect:(
[04:31] <denni1> Hi there
[04:31] <Dr_willis> nickspoon,  aparently theres some exploit with using the official nvidia drivers.
[04:31] <Administrator> Icer, try with a paramter -plow
[04:31] <sonics> hmm, can anyone tell me when I use xine, the video itself runs just fine but the graphics of the xine control gui are wicked :(((
[04:31] <Icer> problems start after i make this post-upgrade from  hoary upgradenotes:apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <denni1> Could anyone help out a total Ubuntu-rookie with installing Nvidia drivers?
[04:32] <watson540> heyhey can someone tell me how i can open another x server to watch my movie without xgl in the way
[04:32] <Icer> Administrator:ok
[04:32] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Are you talking about the right-click menu?
[04:32] <Lobster> denni1 search a wiki
[04:32] <orangefly> is there an irc for ubuntu server....???....
[04:32] <Lobster> ubuntulinux.nl I think
[04:32] <XVampireX> denni1, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:32] <denni1> Lobster, how do I do that?
[04:32] <sonics> ianmacgregor: im talking about that graphical gui where you can step forward etc by using the mouse
[04:33] <Lobster> denni1 you got firefox?
[04:33] <XVampireX> actually
[04:33] <denni1> Yep
[04:33] <Lobster> open it and type ubuntulinux.nl :)
[04:33] <XVampireX> !nvidia > dennil
[04:33] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Ah, sounds like the skin. Try changing the skin. I use one that looks quite nice.
[04:33] <orangefly> ty....
[04:33] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[04:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:33] <denni1> How'd you know I'm .nl ? :)
[04:33] <sonics> ianmacgregor: might be.. where can I get it?
[04:33] <timothy_> #wine
[04:33] <XVampireX> #winehq
[04:33] <Lobster> your host is .nl :)
[04:33] <ianmacgregor> sonics: http://xinehq.de/index.php/skins
[04:33] <sonics> ianmacgregor: alright do I change it in the .xine file?
[04:34] <ianmacgregor> sonics: I use the Antares skin.
[04:34] <Lobster> !nl
[04:34] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:34] <Lobster> denni1 ^^
[04:34] <XVampireX> Torpedo
[04:34] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Unpack new xine skins into ~/.xine/skins
[04:34] <denni1> okay, thanks Lobster. I installed the nvidia-glx already, but I don't know what to do next...
[04:34] <SHRIKEE> hi all
[04:34] <ianmacgregor> sonics: And then restart xine and it should be available under skins
[04:35] <Code-E> Is there any graphical iso managers out there that I can use and add files to them?
[04:35] <Icer> Anministrator:/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-org is not installed ....so it is the problem i suppose?
[04:35] <mikmu> icer: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <sonics> ianmacgregor: yeah but well the proble is the whole gui is just like a graphical disaster
[04:35] <Lobster> xserver-xorg
[04:35] <ianmacgregor> sonics: how did you install xine?
[04:36] <SHRIKEE> can anyone help me with a keyboard mapping question?
[04:36] <sonics> I did apt-get install xine I guess..I followed some howto
[04:36] <ianmacgregor> sonics: I installed it with: sudo apr-get install xine-ui
[04:36] <ianmacgregor> SHRIKEE: What is your question?
[04:36] <Teabagg> What are the reason to have linux in the computer?
[04:37] <SHRIKEE> well im trying to type characters like  in windows its done with <shift> "o
[04:37] <SHRIKEE> but that wont work in kubuntu
[04:37] <slavik> teabagg, what is the reason to have windows
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Teabagg,  becuse windows doesent suite your needs.
[04:37] <joona> Teabagg: for me example, it's the best solution as i mostly work using terminals
[04:37] <SHRIKEE> im using the same keyboard map as in windows
[04:37] <Icer> mikmu:thank you:)
[04:37] <joona> Teabagg: and i have apple powerbook g4
[04:37] <Code-E> Is there any graphical iso managers out there that I can use and add files to them?
[04:38] <ianmacgregor> Teabagg: It's free to download and install on as many machines as you want, it has a huge support community, it's stronger and faster than other OS's (my opinion), you can change it to meet your needs, there are lots of reasons.
[04:38] <thugNA> hi :) im a noob and I need help :p
[04:38] <slavik> code, you want to change the ubuntu iso image?
[04:38] <slavik> !ask
[04:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:38] <Constrictor> what's the problem thugNA
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  ive toyed with kiso, there may be a few others.
[04:38] <Code-E> ok
[04:38] <SHRIKEE> ianmacgregor: saw what i typed? ;)
[04:38] <Code-E> !kiso > Code-E
[04:39] <ianmacgregor> SHRIKEE: Yes, but I don't know how to help with that :(
[04:39] <SHRIKEE> ah ok
[04:39] <SHRIKEE> :(
[04:39] <SHRIKEE> anyone else?
[04:39] <Teabagg> Does Linux function with another OS . OR other harddrive does it read it as the way it is as window xp?
[04:39] <sonics> ianmacgregor: hmm I unpacked the skin, but just as I guessed, well xine itself is having problems i think :(( and I dont know what to do no
[04:39] <sonics> *now
[04:40] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Which how to did you follow? Got a URL?
[04:40] <Code-E> ty Dr_willis
[04:40] <sonics> ianmacgregor: noo :(( what can I do now?! cant I just reinstall it somehow?
[04:40] <tim167> hi all, how can i find out what video card is in my computer and how i install the drivers for it (need OpenGL support)
[04:40] <Constrictor> SHRIKEE: Because i want to be able to do anything i want with the OS i use
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Teabagg,  i think you need to go do some googling and read up on it..  Linux IS an operating system.
[04:41] <mikeymike-linux> /dev/sda1 would give me what hdx,x for grub?
[04:41] <SHRIKEE> Constrictor: ...
[04:41] <ianmacgregor> sonics: I need to know how you installed it forst, to be able to best help you. You installed it from Synaptic?
[04:41] <Constrictor> Yes
[04:41] <Constrictor> ?
[04:41] <mikeymike-linux> my /boot is mounted from /dev/sda1
[04:41] <SHRIKEE> anyone know stuff about keyboard mappings?
[04:41] <sonics> ianmacgregor: either way,synaptics, or automatix or by hand.. I cant remember anymore I installed a lot since yesterday
[04:41] <mikeymike-linux> i want to call it up for splash images in menu.lst and i need to know the (hdx,x)
[04:42] <sonics> ii  xine-ui                                0.99.4-0ubuntu6                        the xine
[04:42] <OXIj> hello! can somebody help me? then I plug usb flash drive and trying to explore it in nautilus then is get such SLOW... I already thoght that is hang but it working... also. I have some hanged desktop icons "usbdisk", "usbdisk(2)" but no usb drives plugged. i need to restart nautilus fully. how can I reboot it without rebooting all system? if i trying to "sudo kill" him than it starts again and create that icons too
[04:42] <defrysk> mikeymike-linux, probably (hd0,0)
[04:42] <mikeymike-linux> defrysk, how do i figure it out
[04:42] <ianmacgregor> sonics: If you installed it with automatix, then I can't help you. If you installed it via Synatpic, try going into Synaptic and marking xine-ui for re-install
[04:42] <mikeymike-linux> defrysk, /boot is mounted on /dev/sda1
[04:42] <SHRIKEE> ugh this place is a mess
[04:43] <Constrictor> SHRIKEE: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:43] <Teabagg> Is there a site for beginnginers for linux
[04:43] <Teabagg> in ubuntu
[04:43] <jrib> Teabagg: help.ubuntu.com
[04:43] <XVampireX> What bit torrent client are you all using?
[04:43] <defrysk> mikeymike-linux, been a long time since I done that
[04:43] <ianmacgregor> Teabagg: You're in it
[04:43] <mikeymike-linux> im going to reboot
[04:43] <mikeymike-linux> all i have to do is keep guessing anyway
[04:43] <SHRIKEE> Constrictor: where should i find that? its not in system settings
[04:44] <Constrictor> SHRIKEE: what distro are you using?
[04:44] <ianmacgregor> SHRIKEE: It should be
[04:44] <SHRIKEE> kubuntu 6.06
[04:44] <denni1> Ok, I'm about to restart the X server, wish me luck!
[04:44] <Mathieu-> I have one of these new D620 and I am trying to have wifi working, does the ipw3945 work with 128b WEP keys?
[04:44] <boink> /clear/clear
[04:44] <boink> oops
[04:44] <SHRIKEE> i have this regional settings thing ,in there i can set layouts
[04:44] <SHRIKEE> but that doesnt help me
[04:44] <ianmacgregor> SHRIKEE: You might want to /join #kubuntu
[04:45] <sonics> ianmacgregor: i think I installed using synaptics.. do i have to only reinstall xine-ui?
[04:45] <tim167> can I get openGL on a matrox 3D prophet II MX under ubuntu ?
[04:45] <fast1> has anyone else here noticed that the amarok icon appears stuck in the top left corner of the screen in edgy?
[04:45] <SHRIKEE> ill try that
[04:45] <watson540> can anyone help me with starting another x server so i can watch a movie without xgl in the way?
[04:45] <ianmacgregor> sonics: That's what I would suggest
[04:45] <Icer> it doesnt work:( dont please anyone help me what parameters are dangerous in dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver.xorg ?
[04:45] <itsmegb> hi, when i try to open certain applications e.g. update-manager, alacarte, serpentine i recieve an error: ImportError: cannot import name glade and ImportError: No module named glade, im not sure how to fix this, any help would be great
[04:45] <app> So this is the vmware image from Ubuntu.org. But the screen resolution is max 800x600. How do I change that?  Will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do it on this VMWare image I run with the Player?
[04:45] <acuster> hey all, how do I install a .deb. file I have on my system?
[04:46] <mrvw0169> you click it
[04:46] <sproingie> acuster: dpkg --install foo.deb
[04:46] <defrysk> acuster, what .deb file ?
[04:46] <Constrictor> in your panel you know where the application drop down is next to it you should find "places" and then "system", click on system and then preferences, and then keyboard shortcuts
[04:46] <ianmacgregor> acuster: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[04:46] <acuster> thanks
[04:46] <snowblink> app, think you need to install vmware tools...
[04:46] <tim167> *hercules, not matrox
[04:46] <Constrictor> SHRIKEE: in your panel you know where the application drop down is next to it you should find "places" and then "system", click on system and then preferences, and then keyboard shortcuts
[04:46] <sproingie> oh yeah sudo
[04:46] <ianmacgregor> acuster: If it is a .deb file  made for debian, don't install it. look for a .deb made for Ubuntu
[04:47] <ianmacgregor> acuster: Are you sure that app isn't in the repos? What's the app?
[04:47] <ufk> guys.. i installed ubuntu edgy 64 bit, what do i need to install for 32 bit support?
[04:48] <berent> install a generic kernel
[04:48] <SHRIKEE> Constrictor: i dont see it. i see no drop down menu
[04:48] <Teabagg> Linux could do sort off things that other os can't do rite?
[04:48] <snoops> what's the command to check how much free space is left on a partition?
[04:48] <acuster> thanks all, that worked
[04:48] <LjL> snoops: df
[04:48] <slavik> !tor
[04:48] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[04:48] <ianmacgregor> Teabagg: Yes
[04:48] <snoops> ta LjL
[04:49] <slavik> is there a ubuntu tor how to?
[04:49] <sonics> ianmacgregor: same problem :(((
[04:49] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Did you install automatix?
[04:49] <sonics> yep
[04:49] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Ahh, that may be the problem. I can't help you any further.
[04:49] <Teabagg> Can Are there code list for using terminal
[04:50] <Teabagg> example : `cd or sudo gedit
[04:50] <s_spiff> whats the difference between XGL and AGLX? i wanna try out beryl, I have a onboard nvidia chipset 6100 on a gigabyte motherboard. any suggestions?
[04:50] <Teabagg> a list off comands?
[04:50] <LjL> !xgl > s_spiff
[04:50] <sonics> ianmacgregor: :[
[04:50] <ianmacgregor> Teabagg: Try this: http://www.onlamp.com/linux/cmd/
[04:50] <Icer> what about upgrad to breezy ...doesn X Server recover then?
[04:50] <defrysk> sonics, go to #automatix
[04:50] <defrysk> automatix is not supported here
[04:50] <kuh-emu> !automatix > sonics
[04:50] <slavik> teabagg, do 'echo $PATH', which will give you a colon delimeted lsit of directories ... go inside each one and do 'ls', that will give you all the possible terminal commands :)
[04:51] <boxubi> ianmacgregor: http://www.linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[04:51] <s_spiff> LjL, i already read all that, but it went over my head. i was hoping something in noob mans language.
[04:51] <defrysk> man bash
[04:51] <ianmacgregor> boxubi: Thank you for that URL :)
[04:51] <LjL> s_spiff, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:51] <boxubi> ianmacgregor: http://www.digilife.be/quickreferences/QRC/The%20One%20Page%20Linux%20Manual.pdf
[04:51] <snoops> s_spiff, well at the moment aiglx supports intel graphics chipsets. Nvidia have come out with a beta driver which supports aiglx, but I haven't personally used it
[04:51] <MicettoNero> I've a problema with usplash: it doesn't fit all the screen
[04:51] <pimeja> Can i see kernel configuration file for kernel package like linux-image-2.6.15-23-386?
[04:51] <boxubi> ianmacgregor: http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html
[04:52] <boxubi> ianmacgregor: http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html
[04:52] <gandolftheiwzard> hi all
[04:52] <sproingie> or just hit tab a couple times and hit 'y' when it asks if you want to see all xxxx expansions
[04:52] <Constrictor> pimeja: commandline type in uname -a
[04:52] <ianmacgregor> boxubi: That's enough, thanks
[04:52] <s_spiff> snoops, well i have a nvidia chipset, so should i go for glx then?
[04:52] <sproingie> listing all available commands is a pretty confusing way to start
[04:52] <boxubi> ianmacgregor: that's all I've got!
[04:52] <boxubi> :)
[04:52] <MicettoNero> there's a black border of 100-150px around the brown rectangle
[04:52] <gandolftheiwzard> what is the java command to install from terminal
[04:52] <ianmacgregor> sproingie: That's why I gave him that url
[04:52] <snoops> s_spiff, but you should be able to use beryl with either aiglx or xgl..I've got an nvidia (with the nvidia drivers from the repositories) and xgl running perfectly
[04:52] <gandolftheiwzard> i know it is sudo apt-get something
[04:52] <defrysk> pimeja, cat /boot/config-yourkernelversion
[04:53] <s_spiff> snoops, thanks. I'll give it a shot, and let you know how it worked.
[04:53] <Icer> is it possible to reinstall all X Server related things inubuntu?
[04:53] <pimeja> defrysk: thx.
[04:53] <sonics> defrysk: well I aint quite sure wether I used Automatix to install xine..
[04:53] <snoops> s_spiff that's what I'd do for now.. Will change soonish etc.. but the development/advancement for beryl is massive
[04:53] <MicettoNero> anyone?
[04:53] <defrysk> sonics, if you used automatix in any way you are on your own
[04:53] <s_spiff> snoops, so i read. for starters i think this would be a handful for a noob.
[04:54] <sonics> defrysk: If I would have I would be able to uninstall it there wouldnt I ?!
[04:54] <gandolftheiwzard> what is the java file name please
[04:54] <sproingie> !java > gandolftheiwzard
[04:54] <defrysk> sonics, ask in #automatix
[04:54] <Icer> MecettoNero:please dont you know how to tune X Server in hoary?
[04:54] <sonics> yes, that isnt the problem, but thanks :D
[04:55] <MicettoNero> Icer: sorry i never used hoary :-D
[04:56] <defrysk> hoary wont be supported much longer
[04:56] <CroX> Anyone with experience of MudMagic?
[04:56] <Icer> MicettoNero:Thanks:)
[04:57] <Icer> MicettoNero:i am afraid that if i upgrade without the fixed X Server ...it remains unfixed.
[04:57] <slavik> icer, upgrading usually fixes things ...
[04:58] <Icer> slavik:so you would recommend me upgrade?
[04:58] <slavik> anyone know of a proxy server (using port 80) that I may use to connect to IRC?
[04:58] <s_spiff> snoops, I'm using this wiki http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL
[04:58] <slavik> icer, you want to do dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[04:59] <rambo3> ok i think i lost users DB table  for my system it got corrupted(read deleted in phpmyadmin). is there a way to restore  users
[04:59] <slavik> icer, can you tell us how/what is broken?
[04:59] <s_spiff> snoops, and when i call for beryl installtion using apt-get install, it says beryl not found, what do i do?
[04:59] <vincenz> I just got a wacom pad
[04:59] <vincenz> Anyone know a nice program to draw in
[04:59] <sproingie> slavik: none that are public.  any that do exist tend to get banned pretty quickly
[04:59] <Sionide> vincenz, inkscape
[05:00] <vincenz> Sionide: that's not's good for drawing, it's more for vector art
[05:00] <Sionide> s_spiff, you need to go to the settings in Synaptic and enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories
[05:00] <Sionide> vincenz, ummm... gimp?
[05:00] <vincenz> gimp is for photo editing
[05:00] <s_spiff> Sionide, i did that as soon as i had installed ubuntu.
[05:00] <Sionide> not exclusively
[05:00] <vincenz> Sionide: that's the claim they use any time anyone asks for my features
[05:00] <rambo3> s_spiff, go to beryl forums and read  how to section
[05:01] <ianmacgregor> Sionide: Is beryl in universe/multiverse?
[05:01] <sproingie> you *can* use gimp for drawing, and for a long time there was no alternative so they stuffed lots of drawing tools in there
[05:01] <Sionide> s_spiff, then berly, whatever it is, isn't in the repos, you'll need to either manually install the .deb file or compile it yourself
[05:01] <s_spiff> rambo3, i'm using beryl projects wiki howto : http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL
[05:01] <sproingie> now the gimp devs know better
[05:01] <Icer> slavik:sure:)thx.i have small waves in gnome.after i do post upgrade:#
[05:01] <Icer> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <s_spiff> Sionide, yes i knw that, i'm using the repos setup by the beryl project itself
[05:01] <Icer> slavik:i am in hoary now
[05:01] <Sionide> s_spiff, ah you need to add those repos to your sources.list file
[05:02] <s_spiff> Sionide, i did that too and updated the list too.
[05:02] <ianmacgregor> s_spiff: Keep in mind that using debian repos isn't a good idea in Ubuntu
[05:02] <Icer> slavik:i tried 1)reinstall GNOME 2)dpkg-reconfigure -plow
[05:02] <wobster> Hi everyone. I'm experiencing some problems during the installation procedure of ubuntu. There's a IEEE1394 CDROM drives attached to the machine I'm trying to install it on.But the drive seems to time-out while it copies the base files. It`s totally random between 60% and 80% progress. Is there a way to perform a network installation maybe?
[05:02] <s_spiff> ianmacgregor, agreed, but these are provided specially for ubuntu. please cheack link : http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL
[05:03] <dcordes> i can't control my volume with the shortcuts on my keyboard n'either with the main volume regulator. the only audio output shown in volume control is PCM. how can i fix this?
[05:03] <ianmacgregor> s_spiff: Awesome!
[05:03] <s_spiff> ianmacgregor, yup. brb
[05:03] <Icer> slavik:i mean dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg...
[05:04] <dcordes> Icer: what does -plow mean?
[05:04] <Icer> dcores:sorry i dont know...it was a hint from this channel...
[05:06] <Sionide> wobster, yeah - or you should check the md5 of the files on the cd - if they've become a little bit corrupted during burning the cd, it won't work.. did you burn it yourself or is it an official ubuntu cd?
[05:06] <raintheory> i just d/l a script for xChat, but where do I put it?
[05:06] <wobster> Sionide, self-built
[05:06] <wobster> the md5 is fine though
[05:06] <raintheory> a rhythmbox now playing script
[05:06] <Icer> i think i try to upgrade to breezy without fixed X-server...
[05:06] <bderrly> raintheory, ~/.xchat2/scripts probably
[05:07] <Sionide> wobster, i'd try another cd first.. but it is possible to network install but don't ask me how cos i'm not sure
[05:07] <bderrly> raintheory, why do you want to annoy people with a now playing script though?
[05:08] <wobster> Sionide, sure thing. I'll try another cd. Uhm, I have some beezy original cds around somewhere. Would it cause much pollution to simply dist-upgrade later on?
[05:08] <raintheory> bderrly,    its for a music channel...   anyway that scripts directory doesnt exist in /.Xchat2/   should I create it?
[05:08] <NetHaxor> how do i play mp3 on my ubuntu linux??
[05:08] <erUSUL> !mp2
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <erUSUL> !mp3
[05:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <Sionide> wobster, that would work but it'd take a little longer obviously
[05:09] <wobster> Sionide, alright. I'll see what I can do about it. Thank you.
[05:09] <usae> Is there a way to install photoshop on my ubuntu box (without wine) .. do they have their own version of linux, perhaps ?
[05:09] <secureboot> i'm looking for a way to screencast so that I can give tech demos - but I want people to be able to fastforward, stop, start, etc.  Basically, I want google video but on my site, in high quality.  I can never get Istanbul to work, or i'd use that
[05:09] <secureboot> any ideas?
[05:09] <LjL> usae: no they don't
[05:09] <Touqen> usae: not yet (if ever)
[05:10] <sonics> ianmacgregor: i just checked with my other graficcard... xine running perfectly there..
[05:10] <usae> :( .. Is there an alternative to using Photoshop (anything besides Gimp) ?
[05:10] <sonics> may it be due to the use of OpenGL?
[05:10] <LjL> usae: use Wine, or use an alternative such as the GIMP (Gnome), Krita (KDE) or Pixel32 (proprietary, similar to Photoshop, uses its own GUI toolkit).
[05:10] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Ah hah! So  it may be a problem with the vid card
[05:10] <LjL> usae: those are the ones i know about, i can't exclude that others exist
[05:10] <sonics> ianmacgregor: thats something I cant do nuffing about I guess ;)?
[05:11] <usae> LjL, I'm using Gnome, can i still use Krita ?
[05:11] <sonics> the other video card is a nvidia geforce 74oo
[05:11] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Open xine, right-click, choose Settings -> Setup, go to the video tab and try the different settings under "video driver to use".
[05:11] <tahorg> usae: yes.
[05:11] <Sionide> usae, yeah it'll just install the KDE libraries as well (assuming krita is a kde app)
[05:12] <LjL> Sionide: it is, it's part of KOffice
[05:12] <bderrly> raintheory, i can guarantee that the xchat website has docs on how to install scripts
[05:12] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Does the rest of you desktop look ok?
[05:12] <sonics> ianmacgregor: ok :)) ive got to switch to my other graficcard then..
[05:12] <usae> Alright, thanks all
[05:12] <sonics> ianmacgregor: yeah rest looks amazing ! (thanks to xgl and beryl too heh)
[05:12] <kaharas> hi all, i've a little problem with my ubuntu. I've the clean installation with 3 programs installed, a java server, a soldat server and vnc. Since when i've install those 3 things the reboot always fails. someone can help me?
[05:13] <ra21vi> hi frndz, i m back with new problems :)
[05:13] <ra21vi> so whts up
[05:13] <chx> hi. if I have /boot on one disk and / on another , can I umount & remove /boot after booting?
[05:14] <brainiac> yes chx
[05:14] <ra21vi> chx: try it, but when kernel is loaded, u dont need /boot anymore
[05:14] <DjDarkman> hy ,why do I get these errors?
[05:14] <ra21vi> chx: but why do u want to do that
[05:14] <DjDarkman> Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qt4-x11/qt4-qtconfig_4.2.0-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb  404 Not Found
[05:14] <brainiac> its more secure to do so
[05:14] <brainiac> in gentoo it is default to not mount boot
[05:14] <ra21vi> DjDarkman: its simple,.. file not found
[05:14] <chx> ra21vi: because I have a complex installation scheme...
[05:15] <ra21vi> chx: u can go some safe way
[05:15] <ianmacgregor> DjDarkman: Go up one level
[05:15] <DjDarkman> up one level?
[05:15] <ra21vi> chx: do u want to change the /boot to another partiotion
[05:15] <DjDarkman> apt gave me this
[05:15] <DjDarkman> error
[05:15] <edgy> bderrly: I gave up! I installed flashplugin-nonfree and remove the other flash plugins but now firefox about:plugins shows no flash at all
[05:15] <chx> ra21vi: look, I will have a laptop which has a CF card reader (recognized as a PCMCIA device) and I would like to run my Dapper from a CF card and switch the HDD off to conserve battery
[05:15] <RMorris84> i have 3 volume buttons, vol up, down, and mute. the mute button has a light that works in windows, what would i have to do to get it to work in ubuntu, its not that important but it would still be cool lol
[05:15] <DjDarkman> I can`t upgrade to edgy
[05:15] <chx> ra21vi: but, the CF is not a bootable device
[05:15] <DjDarkman> and the repository`s not down
[05:15] <edgy> Seveas: flash still didn't work for me, any help?
[05:16] <ianmacgregor> DjDarkman: http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qt4-x11/
[05:16] <chx> ra21vi: so /boot goes on /dev/hda , / goes on /dev/hdc and then I want to be able to hdparm -Y /dev/hda once the booting is done.
[05:16] <ra21vi> chx: hey, maybe u search google.. n u will find some guide on CF booting LInux Howtos
[05:17] <DjDarkman> should I install all packagees manually ianmacgregor or what ,apt gave me the error ,I know that the repository is working
[05:17] <ianmacgregor> DjDarkman: What exactly are you trying to do?
[05:17] <DjDarkman> ianmacgregor: upgrade to edgy
[05:17] <chx> ra21vi: not when it's a PCMCIA device
[05:17] <ianmacgregor> DjDarkman: /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there
[05:18] <chx> ra21vi: and the BIOS won't boot from PCMCIA
[05:18] <ra21vi> chx: ok, i dont want to waste ur time.. i want to say, i dont know much in CF fields :)
[05:18] <ra21vi> chx: so find some1 lese buddy... sorry
[05:18] <chx> ra21vi: those tutorials are for the case when you plug your cf in an ata converter
[05:19] <chx> hmmmmmmmm
[05:19] <ra21vi> chx: :) .. ya, cuz i really dont want sm 1 to misguide for nothing ..
[05:19] <ra21vi> :)
[05:19] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:19] <natu> love me
[05:19] <chx> ra21vi: now, cf booting linux pcmcia does not come up empty handed :)
[05:19] <rapha> Is Edgy out?
[05:19] <brasko> anyone know what the permissions on /var/spool/mail/username should be?
[05:19] <LjL> rapha: no
[05:19] <tristanbob> can anyone succesfully view the videos on foxnews.com?  I get the sound but not the video.  I think it uses flash somehow, and I have flash installed.
[05:20] <rapha> LjL: okay, thanks. Do you know the page where it says the exact release date? I appear to be too dumb to google it :/
[05:20] <LjL> !schedule > rapha
[05:20] <ra21vi> chx: oh.. try it :) good luck buddy ....
[05:20] <rapha> Thx LjL!
[05:20] <fdoving> brasko: 660, or -rw-rw----
[05:20] <natu> vous parler francIAS
[05:20] <LjL> !fr
[05:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:20] <ra21vi> tristanbob: lemme check it
[05:21] <ProN00b> tristanbob, flash 8 has more video codecs than flash 7, maybe they are using one of those newer codecs
[05:21] <LjL> !away > mumbles-off
[05:21] <ra21vi> tristanbob: give me URL to the video..
[05:21] <tristanbob> ProN00b: I had someone try it with Flash 9 beta - still not work
[05:21] <ProN00b> tristanbob, flash 9 beta ?
[05:21] <tristanbob> ra21vi: just go the main site, and click on the picture on the top right that says "video"
[05:22] <ProN00b> tristan, don't watch foxnews neway, its the voice of the government
[05:22] <ianmacgregor> I didn't know flash 9 beat was even out
[05:22] <brasko> fdoving: thanks
[05:22] <ianmacgregor> tristanbob: I clicked on that pic and it says page not found
[05:22] <poopybutt> go to penguin swf
[05:22] <brasko> fdoving: and should they be owned by root:mail ?
[05:23] <poopybutt> havent had a single problem with beta yet
[05:23] <fdoving> brasko: no, by user.user
[05:23] <ra21vi> ProN00b: afaik, flash use integrated codecs which had multiple layered buffering, compressions levels and then postprocessing... just that i learnt from the GNU flash projects
[05:23] <ProN00b> woot woot
[05:23] <ProN00b> flash 9 beta rly is out !
[05:24] <ianmacgregor> Wowsers!
[05:24] <LjL> !flash9
[05:24] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[05:24] <ianmacgregor> OMG! And it's in Seveas's repo!
[05:24] <FordPrefect> yeah that is odd even with flash9 that site doesn't show
[05:24] <tristanbob> ra21vi: Still not getting the video to come up?  it is called "up in smoke" and shows the explosion of a power plant
[05:24] <torman> And it's just great. doesn't hog my CPU. :)
[05:24] <poopybutt> wellits beta
[05:25] <poopybutt> couldnt you just drop the plugin file in the mozilla plugins folder?
[05:25] <poopybutt> instead of going through all that annoying installer crud
[05:25] <torman> GMail is beta. hahha..
[05:25] <tristanbob> FordPrefect: it could be some problem unique to that site
[05:25] <ra21vi> tristanbob: i m just checking.. opned the URL
[05:25] <ra21vi> its loading now
[05:25] <torman> ~/.mozilla - single user or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin - system wide.
[05:26] <FordPrefect> it also truncates the right click menu
[05:26] <FordPrefect> making me wonder if maybe it just doesn't like being sized that small
[05:26] <FordPrefect> maybe if you get at the real url and ditch all of the window dressing it would work
[05:26] <torman> similar for opera
[05:26] <FordPrefect> so it could be a js/html problem
[05:26] <gandolftheiwzard> hey what is a good media player for ubuntu
[05:27] <poopybutt> vlc
[05:27] <torman> !vlc
[05:27] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:27] <ra21vi> tristanbob: ok, what i m  watching is  a black window.. and nothing else... but my network monitor showing a high data I/O from network card.. so its streaming but i cannt see it
[05:27] <ReverseBlade> gandolftheiwzard, totem is fine also
[05:27] <FordPrefect> yeah rightclick the black window
[05:27] <torman> !totem
[05:27] <nickspoon> totem is a terrible media player :)
[05:27] <poopybutt> vlc is the best though
[05:27] <ianmacgregor> gandolftheiwzard: I use MPlayer on all my boxes
[05:27] <ReverseBlade> totem works fine on me
[05:27] <nickspoon> I use MPlayer or VLC.#
[05:27] <LjL> !best
[05:27] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:27] <nickspoon> and amaroK for music.
[05:28] <ReverseBlade> amarok is KDE based
[05:28] <poopybutt> it still works wherever
[05:28] <torman> vlc is written in platform independent manner (wxc++) and works across linux,osx,windows.
[05:28] <ReverseBlade> I don't want to mess my system with the craps of trolltech
[05:28] <Ma1kel> isnt ubuntu able too run kde apps out of the box?
[05:28] <tristanbob> ra21vi: that is what I get - I also get sound
[05:28] <ra21vi> tristanbob: do u want to see that video.. there is another way
[05:28] <LjL> Ma1kel: yes. it will install the needed KDE libraries when you install an app.
[05:28] <nickspoon> ReverseBlade: amaroK runs fine under GNOME.
[05:28] <ReverseBlade> Ma1kel,
[05:28] <ReverseBlade> no
[05:28] <FordPrefect> at the same time my flex apps work on the flash9 linux with nearly no problem
[05:28] <nickspoon> ReverseBlade: it's just the libraries that are installed.
[05:29] <FordPrefect> (a few minor glitches with scrollbars that appear where they shouldn't)
[05:29] <ra21vi> tristanbob: but i m not sure if it will work or not
[05:29] <ReverseBlade> nickspoon, yes it runs fine. But I don't want to mess my system with qt
[05:29] <warlock_> Where's the logs stored in ubuntu? ex, when a user logs in, or attempts to login etc?
[05:29] <ReverseBlade> warlock_, /var/logs/
[05:29] <LjL> warlock_: /var/log/auth.log
[05:29] <ReverseBlade> warlock_, /var/log
[05:29] <tristanbob> ra21vi: what is your idea?  I am trying to get this working so my brother can watch those videos
[05:29] <warlock_> thanks.
[05:29] <edgy> LjL: I did install it but flash is still not working, how can I troubleshoo this?
[05:29] <tristanbob> ra21vi: not that particular video
[05:30] <LjL> ReverseBlade, that's understandable, but strictly speaking Ubuntu *can* run KDE apps "out of the box". that is, of course, if you install them from the repos - but then any other way of installing applications is not really a supported way
[05:30] <ra21vi> try a extension VideoDownloader in firefox.. and u can download the flv (flash video) that streaming cache to hard disk
[05:30] <LjL> edgy, I have never had Flash installed.
[05:30] <poopybutt> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:30] <nickspoon> ReverseBlade: I don't get you crazy "Everything that might have anything to do with KDE SUCKS" people. Frankly, amaroK is the best there is, imo, and it doesn't screw up anything.
[05:30] <FordPrefect> or if it is just newsreel then try another news site
[05:30] <ReverseBlade> tristanbob, you may try, www.getautomatix.com as well. It works fine for me
[05:30] <poopybutt> go there, get the download installer ad read the readme in it
[05:30] <gandolftheiwzard> why do i have such problems installing java
[05:30] <nickspoon> !automatix
[05:30] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[05:30] <ra21vi> tristanbob: and then u can convert that flv to mov or avi or mpg whatever, if u have ffmpeg installd
[05:30] <FordPrefect> and send a whine to fox
[05:31] <ReverseBlade> nickspoon, Amarok is the best, KDE is the crap period
[05:31] <poopybutt> edgy: delete the other two flash entries in the plugins folder as well
[05:31] <LjL> nickspoon, ReverseBlade, i suggest that if you want to keep discussing the relative merits of Gnome and KDE, and of installing KDE apps on a Gnome setup and vice versa, you move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <ianmacgregor> ReverseBlade: Please do NOT recommend automatix in this channel. It isn't supported configuration. Just because something works for you, doesn't mean it will work for others.
[05:31] <nickspoon> ReverseBlade: I don't like KDE either, but I'm not about to abandon the best music player on any platform.
[05:31] <gandolftheiwzard> what do i have to do to enable multivers
[05:31] <ReverseBlade> ianmacgregor, I will
[05:31] <ra21vi> ok letme ask something
[05:31] <nickspoon> :P
[05:31] <ra21vi> i got a PROBLEM :)
[05:32] <nickspoon> ra21vi: seen a doctor?
[05:32] <LjL> !multiverse > gandolftheiwzard
[05:32] <ianmacgregor> Let's take the KDE vs. gnome battle to another channel please.
[05:32] <edgy> poopybutt: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ |grep flash shows nothing
[05:32] <ReverseBlade> LjL, I am not the one who pursues this conversation
[05:32] <ReverseBlade> LjL, I said "period" remember ?
[05:32] <gandolftheiwzard> lol
[05:32] <ra21vi> i installed XGL and beryl, and it works wonderful, except that after rebooting my system, there is just a wallpaper, no desktop things and i cannt right click ok desktop.. i mean nautilus - desktop is not running...
[05:33] <LjL> !xgl > ra21vi
[05:33] <ra21vi> i run it manually.. but ahgain i get home/dir browser in nautilus
[05:33] <ReverseBlade> LjL, and I am not the one , that who should be warned about this
[05:33] <ra21vi> but no desktop
[05:33] <FordPrefect> ...despite vi's obvious superiority as an editor
[05:33] <ra21vi> LjL: ok i m sorry for those words, that went in vein :))
[05:33] <nickspoon> ianmacgregor: I don't think the battle is between GNOME and KDE at all, but I'm clogging up the support channel now, so I'll shut up :)
[05:34] <gandolftheiwzard> i've done that and did a sudo apt-get update but i still can't get java to run
[05:34] <ReverseBlade> gandolftheiwzard, what was your problem again ?
[05:34] <poopybutt> edgy: its under your home
[05:35] <poopybutt> edgy: this is my example /home/Matt/.mozilla/plugins
[05:35] <gandolftheiwzard> trying to install  the java plugin for firefox
[05:35] <nickspoon> gandolftheiwzard: what do you want to do with Java exactly?
[05:35] <nickspoon> ah.
[05:35] <poopybutt> obviously replace matt with whatever
[05:35] <ReverseBlade> gandolftheiwzard, try www.getautomatix.com
[05:35] <LjL> !automatix
[05:35] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[05:35] <edgy> poopybutt: .mozilla/plugins/ is also blank
[05:35] <sonics> ianmacgregor: none of the drivers for xine worked... oh well since its just the gui and the splashscreen thats wicked i just start it with xine --no-splash --no-gui .. :D
[05:35] <nickspoon> gandolftheiwzard: instructions here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:36] <variant> ReverseBlade: you never stop do you? :)
[05:36] <poopybutt> well navigate to that directory, check to make sure.  and if there is nothing there drop that new libflashplayer.so in there
[05:36] <ianmacgregor> sonics: Nice find there :D
[05:36] <ReverseBlade> variant, I believe I am doing the best thing for these people
[05:36] <sonics> I wont need the gui anyway...console work rules :D
[05:37] <nickspoon> ReverseBlade: I think you should let "these people" decide what's good and what's bad.
[05:37] <ReverseBlade> NickaNicka, I am not doing the otherwise, I just say try ....
[05:37] <FordPrefect> curious if anyone on 64-bit amd linux gets it to run
[05:37] <edgy> poopybutt: what are the names of the files installed by the plugins and where?
[05:37] <FordPrefect> (the flashplayer that is)
[05:37] <LjL> ReverseBlade, please always indicate that Automatix is totally unsupported here, whenever you advice its use to somebody
[05:37] <FordPrefect> I doubt it will but...
[05:37] <variant> ReverseBlade: at least ask them first if they dont mind installing proprietry or patent encumberd software
[05:38] <nickspoon> FordPrefect: you can't run the binary unless you've got a 32-bit chroot.
[05:38] <ianmacgregor> LjL: I was told by the ops that we are not to recommend automatix at all in this channel
[05:38] <variant> ReverseBlade: then if they don't mind they can use automatix.. can you do that please? then we don't have to keep having this discussion if we can compromisse like that :)
[05:38] <ReverseBlade> variant, I am not telling or givin any directions about how to install it. I am just giving the website link. IT is automatix's responsibility to remind users about it
[05:38] <FordPrefect> interesting.  I'm not on 64bit was just curious as its written in asm
[05:39] <FordPrefect> and the flash7 actually checked the arch string
[05:39] <cryptonic> hmmm..... could someone tell me if the software update site is down?
[05:39] <nickspoon> FordPrefect: Adobe don
[05:39] <FordPrefect> and refused to load if it wasn't a match
[05:39] <nickspoon> 't give out Flash Player source, and this is a 32-bit only binary.
[05:39] <poopybutt> edgy: theres only one file.  if you selected the download installer from the website.  and its called libflashplayer.so and it goes in your home/name/.mozilla/plugins folder
[05:39] <unfknblvbl> !dvd
[05:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:39] <poopybutt> edgy: its within the tar.gz
[05:40] <FordPrefect> yeah nickspoon I was wondering if by some bizzare coincidence the latest might run with the compat libs
[05:40] <edgy> poopybutt: I don't have any libflashplayer.so in my system. I installed flashplugin-nonfree from Seveas repo
[05:40] <poopybutt> oh
[05:40] <nickspoon> FordPrefect: sorry, nope ;)
[05:40] <LjL> ReverseBlade, no, it's this channel users' responsibility to make it clear that something is not officially supported and/or may cause problems.
[05:40] <poopybutt> edgy: well thats not my problem.  i should you the official adobe link
[05:41] <cryptonic> im using edgy and the software updates wizard doesnt seem to be doing anything, as in i clicked check and now its stalled
[05:41] <variant> ReverseBlade: fine, your not willing to compromise
[05:41] <poopybutt> *showed
[05:41] <poopybutt> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:41] <ReverseBlade> LjL, who says so ?
[05:41] <edgy> poopybutt: np thx. I want to test the ubuntu packages though
[05:41] <LjL> ReverseBlade: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:41] <edgy> Seveas: are you sure your packages should work? ;)
[05:41] <FordPrefect> yeah was just curious...I'm on a macbook so not prob for me nickspoon, just curious what flash's future is if they don't get on the ball with 64 bit (on windows either) before long
[05:41] <ianmacgregor> O, looks like it's time to drag out my ignore list. Some of you really need to go change your diaper or something
[05:42] <muzik> hey guys, does the amd64 work with all 64 bit chips? like a core 2 duo?
[05:42] <ReverseBlade> LjL, you join there, I don't want to discuss about automatix
[05:42] <edgy> any one here manage to install flash 9 from Seveas repo and it worked for him?
[05:42] <edgy> !flash 9
[05:42] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:42] <nickspoon> edgy: remove the Seveas one and install the beta from Adobe Labs.
[05:43] <nickspoon> edgy: have you checked about:plugins by the way?
[05:43] <muzik> hey guys, does the amd64 work with all 64 bit chips? like a core 2 duo?
[05:43] <LjL> ReverseBlade: i'm already there. if you don't want to discuss it, then don't. and don't advice its use. or at least do what i told you to. if you question my authority on the matter, which you certainly have a right to, then please join #ubuntu-offtopic and let's discuss.
[05:43] <Pelo> edgy , I didn't install from the repo, I already had 7 from automatix, and I just replaced the lib file and it works very well
[05:43] <ReverseBlade> LjL, I am sorry I thought you offended me. We can discuss in offtopic if you still want to
[05:44] <variant> LjL: ubotu should auto mention a small warning if automatix is mentiond :)
[05:44] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[05:44] <NetHaxor> how do i install xchat on my ubuntu 6.06.1 ??
[05:44] <variant> NetHaxor: apt-get install xchat
[05:44] <ubotu> Announcement from my owner (Seveas): TheFridge
[05:44] <variant> NetHaxor: might be x-chat actualy
[05:44] <gandolftheiwzard> this is what i keep on getting  Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[05:44] <variant> NetHaxor: nope, its xchat
[05:44] <tristanmike> Hi, sorry for the bother, for the nvidia hotfix, it appears I'm using 8762 (which is affected), should I download the "Linux IA32 - 1.0-8776" file and just run it as nvidia's site directs me to? or is there something I should know first ?
[05:44] <edgy> Pelo: yes I can do that but upgrading won't be smooth
[05:45] <cryptonic> could someone please tell me if the software update wizard is broken in edgy?
[05:45] <nickspoon> gandolftheiwzard: ah, you'll need the multiverse repository. try reading the bit it asks you to read (How to add extra repositories)
[05:45] <variant> cryptonic: no idea, i use edgy but i use apt-get directly. ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:45] <Pelo> edgy  just mentionnning how I went about it,  afterwards I saw a "tutorial" on diggs to do it and it was a lot more involved,  I did't realy see the point
[05:46] <ra21vi> tell me how do u restart Gnome-desktop (i mean nautilus as desktop_) manually
[05:46] <nickspoon> ra21vi: do you have a terminal?
[05:46] <gandolftheiwzard> i have enabled them as far as i know anyways
[05:47] <nickspoon> gandolftheiwzard: can you /msg me the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" (without the quotes) please?
[05:48] <gandolftheiwzard> what is the past it site
[05:48] <aoupi> ,topic
[05:48] <aoupi> sorry :)
[05:49] <Seveas> !pastebin > gandolftheiwzard
[05:49] <Zeerocool> I get an error under activation of XKB-configuration at startup and when I try to change the keyboard-settings in Gnome, any suggestions? I have the whole errormsg, but only in Norwegian
[05:50] <muzik> hey guys, does the amd64 work with all 64 bit chips? like a core 2 duo?
[05:50] <gandolftheiwzard> ok i think i might have it
[05:50] <poopybutt> i think they should rename reiserfs to something like poopybuttfs so the name doesnt carry bad connotations anymore
[05:50] <Seveas> muzik, if the core2 duo is EM64T, then yes
[05:50] <Backu> I have an interesting dilemma.. Currently I run Ubuntu Dapper Drake on half my hard drive. The other half is empty (until this download finishes) in which I plan to install Windows XP Pro x64.. problem is, I know that when I install XP it's going to overwrite GRUB on MBR... unless there is a way to prevent that.. Any Ideas?
[05:51] <nickspoon> Backu: there's no way to stop it, but you can put GRUB back.
[05:51] <oidia> Backu: easiest is to install xp first
[05:51] <Backu> Oidia: I realize that, but I didn't have XP yet
[05:51] <oidia> or you can chroot with the livecd and fix it...
[05:51] <edgy> Seveas: I installed flashplugin-nonfree but firefox about:plugins shows nothing flash
[05:52] <oidia> Backu: but im afraid i never done that on ubuntu
[05:52] <Backu> Nick: How would I put GRUB back? How would I even get back to Ubuntu once Windows is blown everything to peices?
[05:52] <poopybutt> you can repair mbr from a live cd right?
[05:52] <gandolftheiwzard> here is my source list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27502/
[05:52] <gandolftheiwzard> if someone could take a look
[05:52] <UKMatt> I have Windows mounted in Ubuntu, how can I change it so that it doesn't remount when I reboot
[05:52] <nickspoon> Backu: there's a disk with a wizard on it for getting Linux GRUB back on your MBR, I'll find it for you.
[05:52] <fbc> What ftp package do I have to use to be able to ftp to windows servers. GFTP show nothing when I connect.
[05:53] <Backu> thanks
[05:53] <Backu> fbc: if it's a proper windows FTP server, any client should work right.
[05:53] <nickspoon> Backu: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=95
[05:54] <gandolftheiwzard> ok i got it to go thank you all
[05:54] <TheGateKeeper> Backu: Install windows, then reboot into the livecd, chroot into your ubuntu root partition then fix grub
[05:54] <fbc> Backu:  Sure, but it's a hostdaddy server, and I need to upload files. How can I do it then?
[05:54] <nickspoon> burn that to a CD, and when you boot your PC, you'll get an options screen. choose something to do with reinstalling Linux GRUB.
[05:54] <UKMatt> I have Windows mounted in Ubuntu, how can I change it so that it doesn't remount when I reboot
[05:54] <torman> gondolftheiwzard: what about it ?
[05:55] <Backu> fbc: how many files do you need to upload? Myself, I use KFTPGrabber
[05:55] <variant> UKMatt: edit the /etc/fstab file where the windows line is and change auto to noauto in the options line
[05:55] <tristanmike> UKMatt: take it out of your fstab file ?  Unmount it first.
[05:55] <ReverseBlade> LjL, you see Saveas is an ill brained guy. And the most hated man of ubuntu community
[05:55] <variant> UKMatt: if its not there then you will have to add the line your self, which i can tell you how to do
[05:55] <LjL> Seveas. Ping.
[05:55] <variant> ReverseBlade: if thats true you are quickly over taking his position
[05:56] <ReverseBlade> ReverseBlade, why so ?
[05:56] <compengi> if i will compile gaime b4 by my self will it work on ubuntu os?
[05:56] <UKMatt> variant, unmounting is what, "sudo umount" then what?  i forget the directory
[05:56] <torman> LjL: try ping on steroids.
[05:56] <compengi> gaim*
[05:56] <torman> !hping
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <steven43126> hi
[05:56] <torman> !info hping
[05:56] <ubotu> Package hping does not exist in any distro I know
[05:56] <Sub> torman, its hping2
[05:56] <Sub> !info hping2
[05:56] <torman> !info hping2
[05:56] <ubotu> hping2: Active Network Smashing Tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.rc3-4 (dapper), package size 68 kB, installed size 188 kB
[05:56] <variant> UKMatt: yeah, you can unmount it with umount (as root or with sudo)
[05:56] <Gorth-> Has vmware images for 6.10 release candiate been releashed?
[05:57] <torman> Sub: :)
[05:57] <Seveas> Gorth-, no
[05:57] <Gorth-> Seveas: Will it be?
[05:57] <steven43126> to cut a long story short hard drive broke, long day, resorted to dd'ing the holw thing over the network to my other machine
[05:57] <variant> UKMatt: then nano -w /etc/fstab (as root or with sudo) but be VERY CAREFULL with this file as it is an _essential_ system file
[05:57] <Seveas> Gorth-, no idea
[05:57] <Seveas> depends on what vmware wants
[05:57] <torman> Sub: I myself needed info on tripwire. something like a text book or something. any ideas ?
[05:57] <steven43126> Problem is the machine uses lvm and i have just copied the whole hard drive will it be possible to mount the image ?
[05:58] <tristanmike> UKMatt: that's why you should always "cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[05:58] <tristanmike> "
[05:58] <Gorth-> Seveas: They have a say in this matter?
[05:58] <Sub> torman, what do you mean?
[05:58] <torman> !info tripwire
[05:58] <ubotu> tripwire: file and directory integrity checker. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1.2.0-6 (dapper), package size 1773 kB, installed size 5304 kB
[05:58] <Seveas> Gorth-, iirc they are the ones who created the images ;)
[05:58] <torman> Sub: that's ok.
[05:58] <Sub> torman, type "man tripwire" in a terminal"
[05:58] <Sub> torman, to get the MANual for tripwire
[05:59] <UKMatt> variant, then what just remove the windows line?
[05:59] <Lightenix> hello,  i have question... i want to install some program "synergy" but it needs aclocal-1.6, any suggestion?(i am using dapper atm)
[05:59] <Gorth-> Seveas: Ohhh, I thought you guys made them ;)
[05:59] <fbc> Backu:  Like 4 files... but i'll try downloading kftp grabber.
[05:59] <variant> UKMatt: no, can yo ushow me what the windows line looks like please?
[05:59] <UKMatt> variant, what pastebin?
[05:59] <torman> Sub: ok
[05:59] <variant> UKMatt: you need to change the bit that says "auto" if its there to "noauto"
[05:59] <EkUmBa> hello
[05:59] <variant> UKMatt: yes, or here.. its only one line
[06:00] <variant> EkUmBa: hi
[06:00] <EkUmBa> does anyone know a software for ubuntu,with which i could be able to receive nba live?
[06:00] <UKMatt> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   $
[06:00] <UKMatt> variant, oh just take noauto onto options?
[06:00] <tristanmike> Question: for the nvidia hotfix, it appears I'm using 8762 (which is affected), should I download the "Linux IA32 - 1.0-8776" file and just run it as nvidia's site directs me to? or is there something I should know first ?
[06:00] <variant> UKMatt: ok, in between nls=utf8 and umask part put noauto
[06:01] <variant> UKMatt: it must have a , either side though
[06:01] <variant> UKMatt: once you have done it please pastebin your whole fstab file please
[06:01] <kaur> how can i verify the version of my wifi card driver?
[06:01] <variant> UKMatt: just so i can check make sure its sane :)
[06:01] <variant> kaur: good question, is it ndiswrapper or a real linux module?
[06:02] <EkUmBa> does anyone know a software for ubuntu,with which i could be able to receive nba live?
[06:02] <UKMatt> variant, is pastebin always really slow?  it always is for me... if it works
[06:02] <sc0tt> hey folks
[06:02] <variant> UKMatt: there is also nopaste.org
[06:02] <variant> UKMatt: try that one
[06:02] <kaur> variant: what is the difference between them? (The driver is intel's)
[06:02] <variant> sc0tt: lo
[06:03] <steven43126> anyoen know if it's possible to mount a dd image and access LVM volumes ?
[06:03] <jickles> how do I put a link to 'filesystem' and 'cdrom' on the desktop?
[06:03] <UKMatt> variant, www.nopaste.org?  saying none found
[06:03] <sc0tt> heya variant, long time no see :)
[06:03] <kaur> jickles: just drag
[06:03] <NetHaxor> how do i install xchat on my ubuntu 6.06.1 ??
[06:04] <UKMatt> variant, yeah, i swear something is blocked with pastebin for me, it's sending now, it will send 10 more minutes and do nothing
[06:04] <kaur> NetHaxor: sudo apt-get install Xchat
[06:04] <NetHaxor> ok
[06:04] <tristanmike> NetHaxor: you can use "Add/Remove Programs" under Applications or Synaptic
[06:04] <NetHaxor> 10x
[06:04] <jickles> ah cool, I thought it would be more difficult :p
[06:04] <jickles> thank you
[06:05] <UKMatt> variant, yeah, it isn't going to work
[06:05] <variant> kaur: ndiswrapper uses the windows driver and i dont know how to get hte version of it
[06:05] <variant> UKMatt: try rafb.net/paste
[06:05] <kaur> variant: but there should be a way, right?
[06:05] <variant> kaur: yes, if its the windows version i dont know. if its the linux version you should be able to get it from proc
[06:06] <UKMatt> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/KFu1ww95.html , variant
[06:06] <kaur> variant: it is a linux version but what is proc
[06:06] <gandolftheiwzard> cool this is getting easyier to do now that i have done it a couple of times lol
[06:07] <UKMatt> variant, there's a "/dev/sda3       none            swap    sw              0       0" line in there but that isn't getting copied, which is weird
[06:08] <variant> UKMatt: dont worry about it
[06:08] <Backu> Wish Me Luck! Here I go..
[06:09] <UKMatt> variant, am I cleared to save
[06:09] <whazilla> venom in tah vainz
[06:10] <variant> sorry everyone, i have serious network issues ruight now
[06:10] <jai> jailton   barbosa   silva
[06:10] <variant> UKMatt: that is perfect
[06:11] <UKMatt> variant, how do I save and exit with nano?
[06:11] <covOPprometheus> what happens when I can connect to wlan, with ip, ap and everything, but I can't define the connection as the default-gateway and therefore don't get a running internet connection?
[06:11] <Zaggynl> ctrl-O ctrl-X
[06:11] <Zaggynl> UKMatt, ^
[06:12] <variant> UKMatt: ctrl o ctrl x
[06:12] <sonics> ctrl-O is saving?
[06:12] <variant> sonics: yes
[06:12] <Zaggynl> yep
[06:12] <UKMatt> variant, zaggynl
[06:12] <UKMatt> variant, zaggynl, ty
[06:12] <variant> UKMatt: yw
[06:12] <Zaggynl> your welcome
[06:13] <_julian_> is there a ssl-mod for apache2? - I couldn't find a package!
[06:14] <Lightenix> can anyone tell me what is this program on this screen: http://static.flickr.com/21/91333268_ec6b331dcd_o.png  that sits on the desktop, shows cpu,mem info etc... ?
[06:15] <sonics> how can I check which nvidia drivers I got installed, and which are the most recent?
[06:15] <exhale> wow.. i would like to know also
[06:16] <LjL> apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[06:16] <ianmacgregor> Lightenix: I'd guess Superkaramba
[06:17] <Lightenix> thanks
[06:17] <bderrly> sonics, `dpkg -s nvidia-glx`
[06:17] <pacman> I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction
[06:17] <bderrly> sonics, you'll see a line with "Version:"
[06:17] <covOPprometheus> what can I do, when I'm able to connect to wlan, with ip, ap and everything, but I can't define the connection as the default-gateway and therefore don't get a running internet connection?
[06:17] <sons> hi
[06:17] <compengi> alien program is used to convert rpm files to deb once for ubuntu right?
[06:17] <Zeerocool> is this correct: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27509/    ?? Because I have some errors dealing with the kbd driver
[06:17] <sonics> bderrly: thnks ill check
[06:18] <LjL> !alien > compengi
[06:18] <bderrly> LjL, nice, i didn't know about the apt-cache policy
[06:18] <sons> i need some help with my soundcard (creative soundblaster audigy se) how to change from the onboard to the new one?
[06:19] <tristanmike> Question: for the nvidia hotfix, it appears I'm using 8762 (which is affected), should I download the "Linux IA32 - 1.0-8776" file and just run it as nvidia's site directs me to? or is there something I should know first ?
[06:19] <sonics> bderrly: Version: 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-5
[06:19] <Dextorion> sons, do you use the onboard at all ?
[06:19] <sonics> might that be it?
[06:19] <sons> nope
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> compengi: it's used to install rpm's but there is no guarentee that the app will work
[06:19] <Dextorion> sons: then disable onboard audio in bios
[06:19] <bderrly> sonics, yes, that means you have 8762
[06:19] <sons> mkay will do that
[06:19] <lokas> ola
[06:19] <Dextorion> sons: :)
[06:19] <bderrly> i think there is a newer version, 8776 or something like that
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> compengi: what do you want to install?
[06:19] <sonics> ok, bderrly, how do I find out which is newest?
[06:20] <lokas> ola
[06:20] <sons> Dextorion you are the first guy who helped me today...
[06:20] <sonics> or, better, how to install it :D
[06:20] <sons> thx
[06:20] <compengi> TheGateKeeper: limewire
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> !frostwire
[06:20] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:20] <Dextorion> sons: hehe, just got here
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> compengi: ^^^^
[06:20] <Zeerocool> could someone please let me see their /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? atleast the keyboard and mouse part...?
[06:20] <scifi> hi, could someone recommend a web-page design app. for ubuntu (beginner)
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> compengi: use frostwire ^^^
[06:20] <agent> does anyone know how to delay the loading of a module?
[06:20] <ianmacgregor> scifi: screem
[06:21] <compengi> TheGateKeeper: what's the difference?
[06:21] <scifi> ianmacgregor: is it available in synaptic ?
[06:21] <grok> scifi: you mean something to make a website? if so then the best i think is nvu
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> scifi: ubuntu wiki and/or http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[06:22] <ianmacgregor> scifi: Yes, I do't install anything which isn't in the repos
[06:22] <ianmacgregor> !screem
[06:22] <ubotu> screem: A GNOME website development environment. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2051 kB, installed size 7672 kB
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> compengi: never used them so you would probable have to use google
[06:22] <tristanmike> Can someone please help me install the nivida hotfix ?
[06:22] <lupine_85> *ooh* a hotfix?
[06:23] <tristanmike> lupine_85: see /topic
[06:23] <lupine_85> oh - it's "just another driver update"?
[06:23] <tristanmike> lupine_85: i don't know, that's why I'm asking for help :P
[06:23] <scifi> hmm i want something that combines WYSIWYG and raw code. i tried nvu, its ok, but doesnt have a image/graphics tools or in-built frames that i know of
[06:23] <TheGateKeeper> scifi: ohhh I misread your question sorry, you could use google pages to start with
[06:24] <lupine_85> well, if they aren't being backported into the repos (although they should be), you need to uninstall linux-restricted-modules and use the nvidia installer that you d/l from that website
[06:24] <Lightenix> Zeerocool: http://www.papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/2530
[06:24] <sonics> hmm i just checked out, if a website needs "Adobe Flash player" you cant run it on linux, can you somehow?!?
[06:24] <TheGateKeeper> scifi: try Quanta
[06:24] <Zeerocool> thnx Lightenix :)
[06:24] <tristanmike> lupine_85: is that going to screw everything up?
[06:25] <Lightenix> np
[06:25] <lupine_85> possibly
[06:25] <tristanmike> lupine_85: like xgl or games or something ?
[06:25] <tristanmike> lol
[06:25] <Dextorion> sonics: apt-get install flash-player will give you flashplayer 7 or something.
[06:25] <jeanjean> sonics, there is a flashplayer for linux
[06:25] <lupine_85> Xgl will work still, as will your games
[06:25] <lupine_85> but if you use anything else at all in the l-r-m package, that will stop working
[06:25] <Dextorion> sonics: no player 9 for linux as of yet
[06:25] <lupine_85> some wireless cards, for instance
[06:26] <variant> Dextorion: the beta was released recently
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9 > sonics
[06:26] <tristanmike> lupine_85: sorry, "l-r-m package" ?
[06:26] <Dextorion> variant: :) neat
[06:26] <Dextorion> sonics: what variant said
[06:26] <lupine_85> is the beta (9625) immune to the problem, though?
[06:26] <lupine_85> lrm=linux-restricted-modules
[06:26] <tristanmike> lupine_85: no, it appears it's only 2 drivers
[06:26] <variant> lupine_85: no idea
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[06:26] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[06:26] <Dextorion> sonics: and.. its apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree or something .cant remember.
[06:26] <Zaggynl> ohnoes, low diskspace, kdirstat to the rescue!
[06:26] <TheGateKeeper> Dextorion: ^^^^
[06:27] <scifi> TheGateKeeper: quanta looks good, but does it have any drawing(raster/vector) tools ?
[06:27] <tristanmike> lupine_85: or should say yes, it's immune, as the issue only affects 2 sets of drivers
[06:27] <lupine_85> tristanmike: personally I;d uninstall lrm and give the installer a try. if it all goes wrong, the installer has a --uninstall option, and then you can reinstall lrm
[06:27] <lupine_85> ah, ok
[06:27] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[06:27] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[06:27] <lupine_85> if you're in edgy
[06:27] <Lightenix> can anyone tell me how to install aclocal-1.6 on dapper version?
[06:27] <TheGateKeeper> scifi: sorry never used it yet, I keep meaning to give it a try
[06:27] <variant> scifi: quanta is not a wysiwyg editor.. you enter the code your self it just sugest completions and highlights the syntax
[06:28] <lupine_85> !info aclocal-1.6 dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> Package aclocal-1.6 does not exist in dapper
[06:28] <variant> scifi: so, no it doesnt support that
[06:28] <scifi> hmmm
[06:28] <variant> scifi: nvu is a wysiwyg editor. i have no idea what it does and doesnt support though
[06:28] <Dextorion> lots of bugs in edgy?  Any fancy updates?
[06:28] <scifi> variant: know of any other good wysiwyg editor?
[06:28] <foo> How can I upgrade ubuntu's libshout from 1.5 to 2?
[06:28] <variant> scifi: nope
[06:28] <lupine_85> lots of fancy updates, plenty of bugs ;)
[06:29] <lupine_85> still in squashing stage though
[06:29] <Dextorion> lupine_85: :) i hear ye
[06:29] <Dextorion> no upgrade for me then
[06:29] <variant> Dextorion: not many bugs so far. nothing bad anyway.. I been using it for a few months now
[06:29] <lupine_85> IMO, it's "usable", but YMMV
[06:29] <Dextorion> variant: cool
[06:29] <Lightenix> !info aclocal-1.6 edgy
[06:29] <lupine_85> I use it for http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/orange.png
[06:29] <ubotu> Package aclocal-1.6 does not exist in edgy
[06:29] <Lightenix> hmm
[06:29] <tristanmike> lupine_85: which "lrm" should I uninstall ? and should I also uninstall "nvidia-glx" and "nvidia-kernel-common" ?
[06:30] <variant> Dextorion: it is very slick too.. feels faster '(
[06:30] <Dextorion> variant: oh yeah? nice
[06:30] <lupine_85> tristanmike: might as well uninstall all the lrm packages - they're kernel specific. get rid of the nvidia- ones as well, yes
[06:32] <bam_> Hi...I was wondering if anyone could tell me why my USB 2.0 get connected at USB 1.0 speed?
[06:32] <bam_> I have looked around the ubuntu forum and many people have this problem, but there doesnt seem to be a solution.
[06:32] <bam_> Any ideas?
[06:32] <bam_> Anything?
[06:33] <Rookie_> solution might be in kernel ... tryed the 686 kernel ?
[06:33] <tristanmike> lupine_85: sorry to bother with these piddly questions, but I have "lrm-2.6..." and 4 of them are installed and I also have a "lrm-386" as well as "lrm-common" are you saying to uninstall all of these ?
[06:33] <bam_> 686 kernel?
[06:33] <Rookie_> yea, or you use amd ?
[06:34] <gandolftheiwzard> !flash>gandolfthewizard
[06:34] <lupine_85> tristan
[06:34] <lupine_85> ...mike - yes
[06:34] <lupine_85> each one is specific to a certain kernel
[06:34] <scifi> bluefish looks good, anyone use it ?
[06:34] <fdsd> Hey guys, I have a script launching at boot, in the console, yet it keeps getting interuptted by messages.. how do I turn that off?
[06:34] <slavik> anything for php web dev?
[06:34] <gandolftheiwzard> !flash >gadolfthewizard7523
[06:34] <lupine_85> i.e. a new package version gets installed every time you update your kernel
[06:34] <lupine_85> slavik: kate
[06:34] <bam_> Rookie_: were you talking to me?
[06:34] <covOPprometheus> what can I do, when I'm able to connect to wlan, with ip, ap and everything, but I can't define the connection as the default-gateway and therefore don't get a running internet connection?
[06:34] <Rookie_> yea ...
[06:34] <lupine_85> or gEdit, I guess
[06:34] <lupine_85> but kate is better :p
[06:35] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ahh, I see, so uninstalling all but the most recent one would be cool anyway ? unless for some reason I needed to go back ? is that it ?
[06:35] <slavik> I want something with like preview and such
[06:35] <bam_> I have Fujitsu Siemens Laptop that uses, i guess, Intel.
[06:35] <lupine_85> tristanmike: yep
[06:35] <bam_> whats the 686 kernel?
[06:35] <ana> has some one here managed to use a HP 400 or similar with ubuntu?
[06:36] <Rookie_> bam_ - ok, i belive thats an intel cpu, upgrade to kernel image i686 , might be better support for your usb
[06:36] <tristanmike> lupine_85: wow, I can now see why they say there is such a steep learning curve, but once you start to get it, all the pieces fit, thanx.
[06:36] <Rookie_> bam_ - you can do that within synaptic
[06:36] <tristanmike> lupine_85: oh, yeah, after uninstalling everything, should I reboot first ?
[06:36] <lupine_85> tristanmike: makes little difference
[06:36] <fdsd> Hey guys, I have a script launching at boot, in the console, yet it keeps getting interuptted by messages.. how do I turn that off?
[06:36] <lupine_85> you'll need to kill X to do the install
[06:36] <bam_> let me give it shoot.
[06:37] <lupine_85> after installing, run "sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia" then restart X
[06:37] <sonics> Is there a way to  install sth like Adobe Flash Player for firefox in ubuntu?
[06:37] <Rookie_> !flash
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:37] <jaek> can you boot from a soft raid1 setup?
[06:37] <lupine_85> ("sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop" and "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start" are the commands to stop and start X, in this context)
[06:37] <fdsd> anyone know?
[06:38] <tristanmike> lupine_85: awesome, and then just do it from the command line, cool, thanx alot....I hope it all works. :D appreciate the time
[06:38] <bam_> I found out that I have a "Pentium M - 1600Mhz".
[06:39] <Rookie_> yea, thats i686
[06:40] <jaek> i'm trying to choose if i should use software raid1 or dmraid... anyone have any recommendations?
[06:41] <bam_> should I install "Linux-image-2.6.15-27-686" or/and "linux-image-686"?
[06:41] <Rookie_> yes
[06:41] <lupine_85> either
[06:41] <prav33n> bam_, the later should be meta-package for the former
[06:41] <bam_> PS: should I remove the older ones after?
[06:41] <Rookie_> belive you have "modules" too ...
[06:41] <Rookie_> nope
[06:41] <lupine_85> the latter is a metapackage, and always depends on the latest version of the other
[06:41] <Rookie_> let em be
[06:42] <lupine_85> you can remove the old ones - good idea if /boot is on a separate partition
[06:42] <lupine_85> note that -686 was removed from edgy for not providing a noticable performance boost
[06:42] <Rookie_> lupine_85 - what if something failes ... ? no kernel if something fails ... good idea ?
[06:42] <prav33n> bam_, But don't remove unless you can boot at least once in your new kernel
[06:42] <lupine_85> makes little difference
[06:42] <lupine_85> that's what rescue/live CDs are for
[06:43] <prav33n> lupine_85, It is always good to remove the old kernel by booting into the new kernel
[06:43] <Rookie_> right, should be some sport ;)
[06:43] <lupine_85> in actuality, that kernel has been tested by count(ubuntu_users) so is very unlikely to go wrong
[06:43] <bam_> I had 2 kernel installed, so I think I will remove them later. Good?
[06:43] <lupine_85> but I agree in principle that it's best to test the new one first :)
[06:43] <prav33n> lupine_85, :-)
[06:43] <Rookie_> bam_ - yea, later , when you see the new kernel working
[06:44] <fdsd> Hey guys, I have a script launching at boot, in the console, yet it keeps getting interuptted by messages.. how do I turn that off?
[06:44] <fdsd> anyone know?
[06:44] <dx> hi all. i've got an doubt. i had been downloaded http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso file. but when i boot that, there isn't an option called "install to the hard disk" but just "start or install". when I entered, X server was loaded with some background but nothing on the screen. what should I do?
[06:44] <prav33n> fdsd, What you mean by interrupted?
[06:44] <prav33n> fdsd, What messages?
[06:44] <lupine_85> fdsd: if not interactive, then >> all the output to something then echo it at the end?
[06:44] <fdsd> prav33n, its the kernel messages and its an interactive script, and it puts text all over it
[06:44] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a way to safely write to ntfs?
[06:45] <lupine_85> if interactive, then I agree - it's a PITA (that breaks irssi for me)
[06:45] <prav33n> dx, You should have an icon on the desktop for install
[06:45] <tristanmike> lupine_85: sorry to bother again, but "if something" goes wrong" and I have to uninstall the new driver with the "--uninstall" option, is it just "sh NVIDIAblah.run --uninstall" ?
[06:45] <Zaggynl> I'm using vmware with shares now, but that's not very efficient
[06:45] <lupine_85> tristanmike: yep
[06:45] <tristanmike> lupine_85: terrific, thanx
[06:45] <dx> pradeep, that's what I supossed :/
[06:45] <lupine_85> also, you should have have irssi installed which is a textmode IRC client
[06:45] <lupine_85> just in case :)
[06:45] <dx> prav33n,  that's what I supossed :/
[06:45] <LordBrain> Zaggynl: you mean without rebooting right?
[06:45] <bam_> should I install "Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686"?
[06:45] <fdsd> lupine_85, it is interactive, its just makes the script unreadable when those messages come up
[06:45] <prav33n> fdsd, Try passing quiet option to the kernel parameters on boot
[06:45] <Zaggynl> LordBrain, uh without rebooting?
[06:45] <fdsd> prav33n, ok
[06:46] <lupine_85> it's the initscripts, not the kernel, surely?
[06:46] <prav33n> dx, You are not seeing anything on the desktop?
[06:46] <dv5000> is there a way to disable "Places > Recent Documents"?
[06:46] <lupine_85> besides, the kernel is "quiet" by defauly
[06:46] <LordBrain> Zaggynl: well, i know of botdisk systems which can safely write to ntfs
[06:46] <lupine_85> not safely
[06:46] <dx> prav33n, nothing.
[06:46] <dx> prav33n, just the background more or less brown.
[06:46] <lupine_85> fairly safely
[06:46] <lupine_85> !ntfs-3g
[06:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[06:46] <bam_> Rookie_:should I install "Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-686"?
[06:46] <LordBrain> LordBrain: *bootdisk*
[06:46] <prav33n> fdsd, What sort of script is yours?
[06:46] <Zaggynl> 'fairly safely' won't do I'm afraid :<
[06:46] <Bybad> Help! hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, but I get this flooded like 2mins after I hit install: hdc: cdrom_pc the drive appears confused
[06:46] <LordBrain> Zaggynl: *bootdisk*
[06:46] <Rookie_> bam_ - yes, thats the modules for that kernel
[06:47] <lupine_85> Zaggynl: then your current situation is the ideal one
[06:47] <scifi> anyone use amaya ?
[06:47] <prav33n> dx, hmm!
[06:47] <Zaggynl> okay, cheers
[06:47] <dx> prav33n, any ideas around ?
[06:47] <dimiassas> hi
[06:47] <dx> prav33n, maybe some wrong X server configuration ?
[06:47] <prav33n> dx, Are you getting the desktop at all?
[06:47] <bam_> whats the difference between "linux-image-686" and "linux-686"?
[06:48] <lupine_85> nothing, essentially
[06:48] <fdsd> prav33n, it uses dialog, I made a livecd that boots up to the console, and starts my script which backs up data from a failing Hfsplus volume (mac) and backs it up to a known good drive.
[06:48] <oblib> I am using ubuntu on a media server, and it keeps blanking the screen after x minutes if I don't touch it. I disabled the screensaver and DPMS -- what am I missing?
[06:48] <dx> prav33n, yes.
[06:48] <lupine_85> 'though linux-686 might depend on lrm... 1 sec
[06:48] <Rookie_> kernel and kernelsource
[06:48] <lupine_85> yes, it does
[06:48] <lupine_85> linux-686 depends on linux-image-686 and lrm-686
[06:49] <bam_> should install both or dont I need them both?
[06:49] <bam_> or maybe just incase....:P
[06:49] <lupine_85> bam: do you want lrm?
[06:49] <Rookie_> get both
[06:49] <bam_> lrm?
[06:49] <prav33n> dx, Then it should not be a X problem
[06:49] <lupine_85> linux-restricted-modules
[06:49] <prav33n> bam_, restricted
[06:49] <lupine_85> if so, install linux-686
[06:49] <bam_> oh.ok
[06:49] <lupine_85> if not, install linux-image-686
[06:50] <tristanmike> lupine_85: sorry to bother, I found this http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=c3479786ecca02ded4719b7f92089f42&t=72490   and it says "the linux-headers package matching the installed Linux kernel is installed"  how do I know ?
[06:50] <lupine_85> run this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:50] <lupine_85> that'll install them if they're not in
[06:50] <dx> prav33n, hrmpf :/ Can I install ubuntu without load X ? just like debian's installation.
[06:50] <bam_> guys,I'm gonna to a reboot. Pray for me will you plz.:)
[06:51] <lupine_85> !alternate
[06:51] <dimis> still got the problem with my soundcard, disabled the onboard in my bios but i still cant/dont know how to activate the new soundcard which is a creative soundblaster audigy se
[06:51] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:51] <prav33n> fdsd, If you are invoking it as initscript, try promoting the order of the start
[06:51] <Bybad> I'm trying to install ubuntu, but I get this flooded like 2mins after I hit install: hdc: cdrom_pc_intr the drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[06:51] <gandolftheiwzar1> do i have to do anything etra to get flash plug in for firefox?
[06:51] <tristanmike> lupine_85: thanx a bunch, you are great !  :D
[06:51] <fbc> gandolftheiwzar1:  cmon gandlaf wave your magic wand.
[06:51] <prav33n> gandolftheiwzar1, Uncomment multiverse rep
[06:52] <Gnomer__> gandolftheiwzar1, automatix, look it up
[06:52] <fdsd> prav33n, its not an init script, it launches with bash, it also doesnt matter when it starts, if the kernel spits out a message I am going to see it on screen.
[06:52] <dimis> doesnt anyone know?
[06:52] <Gnomer__> Zaggynl, :D
[06:52] <prav33n> fdsd, I think that is the case with any application
[06:52] <Zaggynl> Gnomer__, hey :)
[06:52] <prav33n> fdsd, What kind of message is spit out
[06:52] <lupine_85> dimis: does the card show up in aplay -l ? (that's L)
[06:52] <webben> Is there a Wine repository
[06:53] <webben> that works with edgy yet?
[06:53] <Zaggynl> webben, yep
[06:53] <dimis> w8 ill pm you
[06:53] <prav33n> fdsd, In quiet mode kernel doesn't spit unless it is a critical one
[06:53] <porkpie> guy's whats the command for adding a gateway .....is it add route gw ipaddress
[06:53] <fdsd> prav33n, like for example, if I plug in a firewire harddrive it starts spitting out sda: ieexxx blah all over the scripty
[06:53] <webben> Zaggynl: that works with edgy?
[06:53] <dx> prav33n, sorry,, no ideas man ?
[06:53] <lupine_85> "no"
[06:53] <Zaggynl> webben, haven't touched edgy yet, so I can't say I'm afraid.
[06:53] <prav33n> dx, try starting in safe mode
[06:53] <Rookie_> porkpie - route add default fw ip
[06:53] <lupine_85> but you can do apt-get source -b wine
[06:53] <webben> Zaggynl: ah, thanks anyhow
[06:53] <lupine_85> that "should" work#
[06:54] <gandolftheiwzar1> what is the command for the source list
[06:54] <prav33n> fdsd, That is interesting
[06:54] <Rookie_> ehh, not fw - gw
[06:54] <webben> lupine_85: apt-get from where?
[06:54] <prav33n> fdsd, Normally in quiet mode these messages don't come
[06:54] <lupine_85> use the dapper wine repo
[06:54] <ishimaru_kaito> anyone here know anything about enlightenment (the window manager, not spiritual peace :-)
[06:54] <fdsd> prav33n, ill try it
[06:54] <scifi> could someone remind of the command to restart the panel ?
[06:54] <webben> lupine_85: ah, okay thanks
[06:54] <prav33n> fdsd, Please ensure that you have quiet added to the parameters of the kernel
[06:54] <lupine_85> it'll be a long, torturous path to install though ;)
[06:54] <webben> scifi: killall gnomepanel ... should restart automatically
[06:54] <fdsd> prav33n, ill try it
[06:55] <bam_> well, the boot went great as always, but still I have *crap* USB transfere rate!
[06:55] <rm_you> symlink or bind? Which way is better for setting up a /home that's on another drive? (it isn't the whole other drive, just one folder)
[06:55] <scifi> webben: ty
[06:55] <prav33n> fdsd, OK
[06:55] <lupine_85> prav33n: thast's the default, and /doesn't help with init messages/
[06:55] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:55] <bam_>  Timing cached reads:   1660 MB in  2.00 seconds = 829.95 MB/sec
[06:55] <bam_>  Timing buffered disk reads:   26 MB in  3.14 seconds =   8.29 MB/sec
[06:55] <Akifemre> !xserver
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <prav33n> lupine_85, It is not init messages that he is talking about
[06:55] <Akifemre> !serverx
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serverx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Rookie_> !xorg
[06:55] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <bam_> it says this, but still max write is 200 kb/s.
[06:55] <lupine_85> really?
[06:55] <prav33n> lupine_85, Also in 6.10, quiet supresses the init messages as well
[06:56] <lupine_85> ah, so they are (kernel)
[06:56] <lupine_85> quite strange
[06:56] <cypher1_> i am having lot of issues with usb devices
[06:56] <cypher1_> i am using dapper
[06:57] <bam_> It seems that there are a lot for USB 2.0 problems with dapper.
[06:57] <gandolftheiwzar1> were is the multiverse thati have to uncomment
[06:58] <prav33n> gandolftheiwzar1, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <abhinay> how to open a application in another workspace(workspace2) from current workspace(workspace1 )  ??  ;        like xmms & > workspace2
[07:01] <abhinay> from console
[07:02] <bderrly> abhinay, i don't think that is possible, however you could look into devilspie for something similar
[07:04] <tristanmike> what's the command to "purge" when removing in apt-get "sudo apt-get remove package --purge"  or  "sudo apt-get remove --purge package" ?
[07:04] <abhinay> bderrly, It is possible ,, I'm sure ;  there should be feature like this
[07:04] <skroll> I've been having problems setting up a chroot environment to compile a few programs inside of, every time I try to install the dbus package inside of the chroot environment, it says it cannot start the script, or configure it, so everythign that depends on dbus cannot be configured.  what causes this/
[07:04] <dv5000> is there a way to disable "Places > Recent Documents"?
[07:05] <samurai> does anyone know how to fix a failed dist-upgrade to edgy
[07:05] <bderrly> abhinay, you just contradicted yourself. you say you are sure there is such and thing then say there should be such a thing
[07:05] <AtKaaZ> hi, does anyone know if /etc/console-setup/boottime.kmap.gz of ubuntu edgy(6.10) is still compatible with /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz of ubuntu 6.06 or earlier? the format seems different
[07:05] <nuked_omen> samurai: can you login to CLI?
[07:05] <samurai> yes
[07:05] <samurai> yes nuked_omen
[07:06] <Wolfpaws> 'lo... Need a bit of help... I've tried to remove the old Python 2.4 to install python 2.4.4, but when I try to get it, it wants to install Python 2.4.3 instead of 2.4.4 :|
[07:06] <nuked_omen> did you do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:06] <samurai> yep
[07:06] <Wolfpaws> Of course
[07:06] <samurai> then apt-get -f install
[07:06] <Wolfpaws> Er...
[07:06] <samurai> then apt-get --fix-missing
[07:07] <Baybed> I get this flooded for eternity when I try to install ubuntu 6.06:  hda: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x01)  what is wrong?
[07:07] <samurai> and some iterative combination of all the above
[07:07] <nuked_omen> samurai: that must be ubuntu repos then
[07:07] <samurai> is there a solution short of reinstalling everything
[07:07] <nuked_omen> there are 10 updates for my system but i still didn't update and don't want to
[07:08] <Rookie_> !banshee
[07:08] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:08] <nuked_omen> i'm not sure, sorry
[07:08] <Rookie_> !codecs
[07:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <samurai> it really sucks because the minute this happens I start getting the rpm is better crap from my colleagues
[07:08] <segfault_> Wolfpaws, looks like 2.4.3 is version in edgy
[07:09] <bderrly> haha, rpm is better than apt?!
[07:09] <freshmouse> Hello.
[07:09] <ChaosFan> apples are better than bananas?
[07:09] <skroll> ChaosFan, oranges are clearly superior
[07:09] <nuked_omen> samurai: this has nothing to do with how rpm or apt work
[07:09] <segfault_> bderrly, please go to offtopic to troll
[07:09] <nuked_omen> ubuntu has fucked up updates, that's all
[07:09] <samurai> I donj't think so, but I also like to be able to do a dist-upgrade without encountered a seemingly unresolvable error
[07:09] <ianmacgregor> !language
[07:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:10] <faith> hei
[07:10] <samurai> I know, but that isn't the point
[07:10] <UKMatt> I have a bunch of video files in .vob right now, what video format would you guys recommend that I convert them to to preserve as much quality I can but still having a filesize a bit smaller
[07:10] <LjL> !language > nuked_omen
[07:10] <Znuff> Hello. How does one exactly install ubuntu-server?
[07:10] <faith> hello
[07:10] <faith> i need help:)
[07:10] <samurai> it is still bad press and those that don't make the obvious assumption that its the installer/package manager
[07:10] <faith> :P
[07:10] <UKMatt> faith, just way what
[07:10] <UKMatt> faith, *say
[07:10] <dimis> still got the problem with my soundcard, disabled the onboard in my bios but i still cant/dont know how to activate the new soundcard which is a creative soundblaster audigy se
[07:11] <Rookie_> !pastebin
[07:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:11] <samurai> should have downloaded the iso first, then the dist-upgrade would have worked
[07:11] <crimsun> dimis: lspci -v
[07:11] <nuked_omen> :(
[07:11] <faith> how do i make ubuntu mount my hard drive and place it in Computer??
[07:11] <freshmouse> I need your help. I'm "after" dist-upgrade, but it still gives me this notification: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27516/
[07:11] <UKMatt> faith, mount what hard drive
[07:11] <nuked_omen> faith: just how you do with other distros
[07:12] <dimis> crimsun pm
[07:12] <samurai> nuked_omen: now I have to complete the download and try to repair the damage
[07:12] <ubuntu> hi
[07:12] <UKMatt> faith, are you talking about your windows hard drive?
[07:12] <crimsun> dimis: please use http://pastebin.ca
[07:12] <nuked_omen> mount /dev/<hard drive> /media/<mount point>
[07:12] <nuked_omen> samurai: good luck
[07:12] <samurai> oh well thanks nuked_omen
[07:12] <faith> my 200gb IDE hard drive just formatted it from NTFS to ext3
[07:12] <nuked_omen> sorry couldn't be more helpful samurai
[07:12] <ubuntu> anyone fancy giving me a hand?
[07:12] <samurai> this always happens on the important machines
[07:12] <samurai> nuked_omen: you tried
[07:13] <UKMatt> faith, do you have two seperate hard drives?
[07:13] <dimis> crimsun http://pastebin.ca/212023
[07:13] <sebsebseb> faith:  you might have to edit etc/fstab
[07:13] <nuked_omen> :)
[07:13] <bam_> Ok, here is a different question. Why is transfere rate at around 1 MB/s when I transfere music files, but at 200 kb/s when I transfere ISO files?
[07:13] <bam_> any ideas?
[07:13] <faith> actually i have 3
[07:13] <segfault_> samurai, what happens when u run the dist-upgrqade again?
[07:13] <samurai> it fails in the same place segfault_
[07:13] <UKMatt> faith, so what, the drive is completely blank and you just need to mount it to ubuntu?
[07:13] <ubuntu> is there a way i can format my windows hd, from inside the cd boot of kubuntu?
[07:13] <UKMatt> faith, yeah you'd need to edit /etc/fstab
[07:14] <segfault_> samurai, r u sure u have updated everything needed in ur sources.list
[07:14] <ubuntu> or at least, create a partion in it to install kubuntu on
[07:14] <samurai> yep
[07:14] <skroll> I've been having problems setting up a chroot environment to compile a few programs inside of, every time I try to install the dbus package inside of the chroot environment, it says it cannot start the script, or configure it, so everythign that depends on dbus cannot be configured.  what causes this?  Is it possible to run dbus inside of a chroot?
[07:14] <UKMatt> faith, "sudo nano -w /etc/fstab", then you'd have to add the drive there to mount
[07:14] <freshmouse> apt-get install -f didn't help me. The product is the same...
[07:14] <dimis> woops cripsum pasted the whole console :p
[07:14] <dimis> crimsun*
[07:14] <samurai> I did a regular update/upgrade first to regular edgy, then changed sources.list and did an upgrade prior to running dist-upgrade
[07:14] <nuked_omen> i'm having a little trouble with dmix
[07:14] <segfault_> samurai, it is possible also that you could have to stop X and do from a console ( tho unlikely)
[07:15] <nuked_omen> i think quake3 uses oss, when i type 'aoss ./quake3' it doesn't work
[07:15] <samurai> segfault_: I will give that a try before I use the iso
[07:15] <scifi> hi guys, i get the following error when trying to run amaya:
[07:15] <scifi> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[07:15] <scifi>   serial 106 error_code 8 request_code 56 minor_code 0
[07:15] <faith> UKMatt: i have mounted it to /home/faith/hdd/   but how do i make it appear in Computer so i can access it from there?
[07:15] <samurai> its complaining about libpango1.0-dev and xutils
[07:15] <segfault_> samurai, what does regular upgrade to egy mean?
[07:15] <UKMatt> you have to mount it in a different place, faith
[07:15] <Wolfpaws> o.O I thought that python 2.4 release is already in Edgy :|
[07:15] <UKMatt> faith, here try this
[07:15] <samurai> libpango is looking for libxft-dev
[07:16] <faith> :)
[07:16] <samurai> I was running edgy, then I did a normal edgy update then upgrade
[07:16] <samurai> just to make sure there wouldn't be any issues
[07:16] <crimsun> disasm: what seems to be the issue?
[07:16] <crimsun> disasm: sorry
[07:16] <crimsun> dimis: what seems to be the issue?
[07:16] <Rookie_> !gallery
[07:16] <ubotu> gallery: a web-based photo album written in php. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 7209 kB, installed size 25056 kB
[07:16] <samurai> sorry I misspoke
[07:17] <dimis> i can select the soundcard when i go to the sound options
[07:17] <dimis> crimsun
[07:17] <segfault_> samurai, plz be more clear and state exactly what u did, if u were running edy no need to dist-upgrade to it
[07:17] <samurai> normal dapper upgrade, then sources.list change to edgy, followed by the update and the dist-upgrade attempt
[07:17] <samurai> I was running dapper
[07:17] <UKMatt> faith, actually I'm not sure how to mount that kind of file system, but go here, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite , I'd imagine it's very similar with only a different term instead of vfat
[07:17] <dimis> it is still on the old one but i disabled it on my bios
[07:17] <samurai> did a update/upgrade
[07:17] <samurai> then I changed source.list
[07:17] <samurai> then did an update followed by dist-upgrade
[07:17] <scifi> can anyone help ?
[07:18] <UKMatt> faith, if you mount it in /media though it will show up right
[07:18] <sebsebseb> samurai:  might as well just stick with Dapper,  since loads of the stuff that they said would be in Edgy is not going to happen
[07:18] <sebsebseb> samurai:  and so Dapper and Edgy are hardly any differnet
[07:18] <segfault_> samurai, what error are u getting? eact wording
[07:18] <Rookie_> use pastebin
[07:18] <segfault_> eact=exact
[07:18] <faith> ok thanks UKMatt :)
[07:18] <UKMatt> faith, no problem, good luck
[07:18] <samurai> libpango1.0-dev: depends libxft-dev but it is not installed
[07:19] <faith> thx
[07:19] <Rookie_> !pastebin
[07:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:19] <dimis> crimsun... and another problem is that the card should be able to run enemy territory with sound and teamspeak together but it doesnt
[07:19] <Rookie_> !paste
[07:19] <samurai> xutils: depends: xutils-dev but it is not installed
[07:19] <samurai> try using apt-get install -f
[07:19] <samurai> segfault_: which also fails
[07:19] <Matii> Where I can get NP-script for xmms that copyes the artist&title to clipboard
[07:19] <segfault_> samurai, what happenes when u try to install the pkgs it says are not installed, and then continue the dist-upgrade
[07:19] <gansinho> please, I'm trying to upgrade dapper do edgy, however I'm using beryl/xgl, this is apparently causing some problem, is there anything that I can do
[07:20] <crimsun> dimis: 1) are you referring to System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card ?  2) No, your hardware does /not/ support pcm multiplexing.
[07:20] <sebsebseb> smurai:   oh you tryed to update Dapper to Edgy doing an Internet update right?
[07:20] <samurai> it fails processing x11-common
[07:20] <samurai> yes sebsebseb
[07:20] <samurai> I've done this on two other systems, with minimal disconfort
[07:20] <sebsebseb> sumari:  ah yes I did this myself the other day,  and then got a problem with X,  but I fixed that
[07:21] <samurai> I had errors with all attempts, but the other two I was able to get working
[07:21] <samurai> this one I can't move past
[07:21] <sebsebseb> the other two what/
[07:21] <sebsebseb> ?
[07:21] <samurai> upgrades
[07:21] <samurai> I upgraded two other dapper machines to edgy
[07:22] <ianmacgregor> samurai: Using xgl/beryl on the other two?
[07:22] <samurai> no
[07:22] <sebsebseb> right if you run the
[07:22] <ianmacgregor> :)
[07:22] <sebsebseb> commands again
[07:22] <sebsebseb> does it tell you what packages
[07:22] <sebsebseb> it is having problems with?
[07:22] <samurai> actually not using it on the desktop any more
[07:22] <samurai> libpango1.0-dev xutils
[07:23] <dimis> crimsun a friend of mine has got the same card and he has got sound in et, ts and xmms together
[07:23] <[H] 3b0R> hey im install rt61 driver formy wlan card,and i have ran "make", but when i run "make install, i return with this: "grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory
[07:23] <[H] 3b0R> append 'alias ra0 rt61' to /etc/modprobe.conf
[07:23] <[H] 3b0R> " running edgy eft rc1...
[07:23] <Sub> anyone had any issues installing the nvidia hotfix?
[07:23] <denni1> Hey, I got the Nvidia drivers to work!
[07:24] <sebsebseb> Samurai:  on this attempted Edgy upgrade does X work?
[07:24] <dcordes> how can i force my radeon 9600 pro to give me tv-out? i'm using fglrx
[07:24] <samurai> yes sebsebseb
[07:24] <segfault_> [H] 3b0R, right, that dir doesnt exists, use /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[07:24] <samuel__> what is different in edgy?
[07:24] <crimsun> dimis: I'm fairly certain he doesn't have the same card, since the ca0106 driver that your hardware uses is not capable of driving multiple sounds in hardware. Note that Creative plays loose and fast with their product naming.
[07:24] <samurai> at last until I reboot I suspect
[07:24] <samurai> in fact everything worked
[07:24] <sebsebseb> samurari: what is the problem exactly
[07:24] <[H] 3b0R> segfault how do i do that?
[07:24] <power83> hi, I'm trouble with ubuntu server
[07:25] <Rookie_> !ask
[07:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:25] <samurai> the dist-upgrade fails sebsebseb
[07:25] <dimis> crimsun i dont get what you are telling me
[07:25] <sebsebseb> samuel__  not much at all is differnet in Edgy,  because a load of the stuff they were going to have well they coudn't do that for the release
[07:25] <power83> after a riht installation annd reboot, the kernel don't boot
[07:25] <segfault_> [H] 3b0R, echo 'alias ra0 rt61' >> /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[07:25] <sebsebseb> samuel__  so I suggest you just stick with Dapper for now,  and then when the next Ubuntu comes out upgrade to that
[07:25] <dimis> crimsun: isnt there a way to change the drivers?
[07:25] <Akifemre> !windows
[07:25] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:25] <samuel__> ok
[07:25] <crimsun> dimis: you can't randomly change drivers, no.
[07:25] <sonics> ahahahah
[07:26] <sonics> "or your nearest mental health institute.
[07:26] <sonics> lol:D
[07:26] <dimis> crimsun: so i bought a 40 euro card for nothing?
[07:26] <crimsun> dimis: your hardware must be driven by a specific driver. It does /not/ use the emu10k1 driver.
[07:26] <samurai> in fact sebsebseb, kinda funny I'm using xchat-gnome on one of the machines that I had trouble upgrading  while I download the iso
[07:26] <crimsun> dimis: the less expensive Creative cards are crap.
[07:26] <Rookie_> !winrar
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winrar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <dcordes> samurai: NEVER use xchat-gnome. it's completly useless
[07:26] <dcordes> use xchat
[07:27] <dimis> crimsun are you sure that it will not work?
[07:27] <setnoff> hi. with desktop CD from ubuntu can I install it at HD or just with Alternate CD ?
[07:27] <samurai> I normally use xchat or lately play with irc under gaim, but that doesn't seem to work currently
[07:27] <crimsun> dimis: anything resembling audigy LS, sound blaster 7.1/24-bit is guaranteed to cause headaches for your usage
[07:27] <Matii> Where I can get NP-script for xmms that copyes the artist&title to clipboard
[07:27] <dcordes> setnoff: with both. you would like the desktop cd
[07:27] <dimis> crimsun that means?
[07:27] <samurai> at least doesn't work on edgy dcordes
[07:27] <dcordes> setnoff: alternat cd has text based installer which is crappy to install
[07:27] <Zaggynl> hm I quit VLC a while ago, but it's still playing the sound :/
[07:27] <dimis> crimsun my english isnt rly good :p
[07:27] <dcordes> samurai: xchat?
[07:27] <[H] 3b0R> segfault_ thx
[07:27] <crimsun> dimis: that means avoid all audigy LS, sound blaster 7.1/24-bit cards
[07:27] <samurai> irc under gaim
[07:28] <crimsun> dimis: the Audigy 2 ZS, however, is a fine card
[07:28] <Sp4rKy> !seen freeflying
[07:28] <ubotu> I last saw freeflying (i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying) 7h 22m 33s ago, quiting: "Konversation terminated!"
[07:28] <dcordes> lol why would you want irc under gaim?
[07:28] <dimis> crimsun but i have got an audigy SE
[07:28] <Rookie_> !rar
[07:28] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:28] <samurai> one client to bind them all
[07:28] <crimsun> dimis: it's an LS, trust me.
[07:28] <setnoff> dcordes, with desktop CD i choose the first option from the boot CD "start or install" after loading X server nothing was showed on the screen but just some brown background and nothing. what should I do ?
[07:28] <dimis> crimsun lol should i bring the card back now or what?
[07:28] <crimsun> dimis: yes, buy a real Audigy.
[07:28] <samurai> I don't like the direction they are going relative to multi-users accounts however... dcordes
[07:29] <dcordes> setnoff: chose save mode on boot
[07:29] <dimis> crimsun 40 euro ARE real
[07:29] <dimis> !
[07:29] <setnoff> dcordes, I did. and the same thing.
[07:29] <crimsun> dimis: your headaches will be, too.
[07:29] <FlimFlamMan> hard to believe it's almost time for a new release.  is it on track more or less?
[07:29] <setnoff> dcordes, I am using a toshiba M45 laptop with widescreen.. really don't know what could be that.
[07:29] <dcordes> crimsun: now that you are talking about sound. i can't control the volume with my keyboard or the regulator. how can i fix this?
[07:29] <dcordes> only pcm
[07:30] <dimis> crimsun: so the SE is the same as LS?
[07:30] <crimsun> dimis: no. /Your/ misbranded SE is an LS.
[07:30] <dcordes> setnoff: hmm very strange. maybe your disc is corrupted
[07:30] <dimis> crimsun and LS doesnt work or what?
[07:30] <crimsun> dimis: like I said, Creative plays loost and fast with product branding.
[07:30] <iMax> hi
[07:30] <setnoff> dcordes, i will test at some other pc desktop to check out. i will be back in 4 min.
[07:30] <dcordes> ok
[07:30] <dimis> crimsun gg i cant bring the card back :OOO
[07:30] <crimsun> dimis: the LS certainly works (I helped with the driver). It just won't do pcm multiplexing like you want in hardware.
[07:31] <dimis> crimsun so i cant play et and be in the ts at the same time?
[07:31] <dcordes> crimsun: any suggestion on how to fix this?
[07:31] <crimsun> dcordes: I need a lot more detail.
[07:31] <crimsun> dimis: no.
[07:31] <dcordes> crimsun: like what?
[07:31] <crimsun> dcordes: driver, lspci -vn, tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[07:32] <dimis> crimsun from where do you know that?
[07:32] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I have just swapped my IDE Intenral PCI controller (I have 4 HDD's attached to it internally). But none of my Mount points can be enabled now. Any ideas?
[07:32] <crimsun> dimis: like I said, I helped write that sound driver.
[07:33] <coz_> Hello all
[07:33] <dcordes> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27519/ thanks for your nerve
[07:33] <iMax> I just tried to install edgy eft rc1, but my PATA cdrom will not be found....I thought that has been fixed, no? I have an intel board, core2duo and ich8 controller.....with the jmicron ide controller probably
[07:33] <dcordes> setnoff: you tested the disc?
[07:33] <dimis> thx anyway crimsun
[07:33] <dufresnep> Does edgy-beta tag in malone apply to RC ?
[07:34] <crimsun> iMax: the jmicron issue appears to be unresolved
[07:34] <setnoff> dcordes, yes it was loaded sucessfuly at some other PC. a desktop icon called "Install" stands there.
[07:34] <setnoff> but here on my laptop just the background was loaded.
[07:34] <iMax> crimsun: ahh...thanks...well I guess I learned that the hard way :-/. is there any plan to solve that before the final version?
[07:35] <crimsun> iMax: the kernel is frozen for Edgy, which releases in less than one week.
[07:36] <dcordes> setnoff: okay you can boot in command line and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" this will guide you through setting up your graphical interface. the first thing you have to chose is display driver. chose mesa there. the rest you set default. when it's done type startx- that's all i can tell you i'm not so good either
[07:36] <kjm> Trying to upgrade to OpenOffice 2.0.3 - added dapper-proposed source to my sources.list,  apt-get update -> results here:http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/212047
[07:36] <crimsun> iMax: hopefully it will be ironed out soon so you'll see the fixes in a post-release update.
[07:36] <kjm> Why would it want to remove kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop?
[07:36] <setnoff> dcordes, thank you man. i will try.
[07:36] <crimsun> dcordes: amixer, too
[07:36] <coz_> Ok just got wireless to work with edgy, then did the updateds to find that the default sounds had been replaced with shorter rediculous ones
[07:36] <Wolfpaws> dcordes: How come PYthon 2.4.4 release isn't in Edgy?
[07:37] <dcordes> crimsun: what`?
[07:37] <crimsun> Wolfpaws: because there's no 2.4.4, only candidate.
[07:37] <iMax> crimsun: ok thanks....not good...for me at least. ;-) the only option I have is probably to try and install from usb somehow right?
[07:37] <xuser> How do i scan wireless nets from cli?
[07:37] <jickles> I have an unstable net connection at the moment, is there a tool I can use to download and resume files?
[07:37] <crimsun> Wolfpaws: Python 2.4.4c1 (#2, Oct 11 2006, 21:51:02)
[07:37] <cryptonic> can someone help me find a place to get video and audio
[07:37] <jickles> firefox's built in download manager is quite poo
[07:37] <coz_> i want to replace the "startup.wav" NOT the login.wav... anyone know how to do this?? I already replace the file in /user/sahre/sounds and get nothing at all during startup
[07:37] <cryptonic> cod3ecs?
[07:37] <dcordes> Wolfpaws: /join #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <Wolfpaws> crimsun: The stable came out day before yesterday.
[07:37] <dcordes> please
[07:37] <sebsebseb> !AVI
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <sebsebseb> there you go
[07:37] <sebsebseb> cyrptonic
[07:37] <crimsun> Wolfpaws: like I said, there's no 2.4.4, only candidate
[07:37] <JaytheGreat> lol y u stab me?
[07:38] <coz_> multimedia issues does not apply here
[07:38] <kjempe> does anyone know how to empty gnome's imagecache?
[07:38] <porkpie> guy's whats the command for updating the apt  after the initial install ??
[07:38] <kjempe> sudo apt-get update
[07:38] <crimsun> Wolfpaws: if Matthias (who handles Python) got an exception for 2.4.4, then you'll see 2.4.4 final in Edgy. Otherwise, no.
[07:38] <kjm> porkpie : sudo apt-get update
[07:38] <Laibsch> "set" from the command line to look at environment variables does not list the variables but instead shows me the text of some bash script (long).  Anybody know what's wrong here?
[07:39] <Matii> Are everyone running Edgy now?
[07:39] <crimsun> iMax: netboot is an option, too, if your hardware supports it.
[07:39] <Znuff> what's the mysql version in ubuntu?
[07:39] <coz_> Matii, we is!
[07:39] <kjm> Matii - everybody is a pretty long list - so probably not.
[07:39] <kjempe> how do i find out if my version is edgy?
[07:39] <dcordes> crimsun: oh lolz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27520/
[07:39] <azathoth> System -> About Ubuntu
[07:39] <t0mz> hi
[07:39] <porkpie> Hmm! OK ..it did the update and I want to install ssh but it keeps trying to access the cdrom ??
[07:40] <kjm> Matii - I downloaded RC1 iso this morning - haven't installed yet though.  Waiting for automatix to work - or have more time to get my box working.
[07:40] <iMax> crimsun: hmm....yes...true, but that might be more hassle to set up. but let's see.... :)
[07:40] <coz_> kjempe, system "about ubuntu"
[07:40] <kjempe> type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the cd-rom out
[07:40] <Matii> Is it safe to update with dist-upgrade=
[07:40] <Matii> ?*
[07:41] <crimsun> dcordes: you don't appear to have a 'Headphone' control element
[07:41] <kjempe> well
[07:41] <dcordes> crimsun: what? lmao
[07:41] <kjempe> i do know that i run dapper
[07:41] <kjempe> but isn't edgy some sort of newer version of dapper?
[07:41] <dcordes> crimsun: what's that?`
[07:41] <kjm> Matii - You will probably break things.  The change in the init system is substantial.  Probably easier to fresh install.  Back up your ~/ folder and /etc and you'll be good to go.
[07:41] <azathoth> it's the latest release of ubuntu
[07:41] <porkpie> kjempe:command not found
[07:41] <azathoth> dapper was just the name given to the 6.06 version of ubuntu
[07:41] <kjm> kjempe - it is a newer version of ubuntu. Dapper is dapper.
[07:42] <kjempe> ok
[07:42] <kjempe> didn't know that
[07:42] <Matii> kjm: Ok, have to wait for my DVD-burner arrival
[07:42] <kjempe> are there substantial changes?
[07:42] <dcordes> dcordes: how can i get my volume back in control now?
[07:42] <kjm> Matti - ask in ubuntu+1 about dist-upgrade experiences though.
[07:43] <seth220993> Can anyone help me with a boot problem?
[07:43] <kjempe> i have a graphics problem
[07:43] <kjempe> gnome won't use some of my icons
[07:43] <dcordes> any op here? please write fat in the motd that edgy questions go to edgy channel
[07:43] <cusco> dudes... to get sound working from flash you edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[07:43] <seth220993> I get an error when I select any option from the boot-screen: I/O error: disk error 80, AX = 4200, drive df
[07:43] <cusco> and change the sound to "aoss" or "esd" ??
[07:44] <seth220993> can anyone help me with this?
[07:44] <cusco> !flash
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <kjempe> no
[07:44] <JaytheGreat> hey guys
[07:45] <seth220993> what do I need to do?
[07:45] <JaytheGreat> how do I set up 2 different hard drives (one with XP and one with ubuntu) ?
[07:45] <dcordes> crimsun: ? :-(
[07:45] <dimis> crimsun can you give me some advice for a soundcard where i dont have any problems and that works fine on linux and win?
[07:45] <crimsun> dimis: Audigy 2 ZS
[07:45] <porkpie> who knows how to use vi  I want to # out the cdrom entry from the sources list
[07:45] <dimis> thx
[07:45] <t0mz> somebody know if i can clone disk with AIX partition running ubuntu?
[07:46] <crimsun> dcordes: do you have a headphone jack?
[07:46] <dcordes> crimsun: i g2g in a few. would be so kind if you could help me now
[07:46] <kjm> porkpie - use nano or gedit.  Much easier
[07:46] <crimsun> dcordes: I'm at work. My free time is not at my disposal.
[07:46] <porkpie> kjm:it's not installed
[07:46] <kjm> apt-get install nano
[07:46] <JaytheGreat> lol y u ignore me?
[07:46] <pickles> how can I create a link to my home folder on my desktop?
[07:46] <porkpie> kjm:I only have vi
[07:46] <segfault_> porkpie, to do that do vi filename, then hit i to insert type what u need to type then hit esc the :wq and enjoy
[07:46] <LjL> !patience
[07:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:46] <dcordes> crimsun i have 3 jacks. line out, line in and microphone. ok sorry
[07:46] <kjm> or do that ^^
[07:47] <LjL> !dualboot > JaytheGreat
[07:47] <seth220993> How long will it take to get an answer here?
[07:47] <segfault_> porkpie, also vi has good docs try reading them
[07:47] <JaytheGreat> where do I type in !dualboot?
[07:47] <crimsun> dcordes: then it's not an alsa issue but a hotkey-setup one.
[07:47] <kjm> !dualboot
[07:47] <LjL> JaytheGreat: nowhere. you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:47] <segfault_> !patience
[07:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:47] <JaytheGreat> oh yeah i wasn't paying attention
[07:47] <dcordes> crimsun: ok where do i set like pcm is my standart volume which is controlled by hotkeys?
[07:48] <kjm> dcordes - man xmodmap ?
[07:48] <JaytheGreat> will that dualboot link help me with 2 different hard drives?
[07:48] <kjm> JaytheGreat - yes
[07:48] <JaytheGreat> ok
[07:49] <porkpie> segfault_:thanks ....now how do I set a static ip on the interface  ????
[07:49] <seth220993> Alright, I'll wait, sorry
[07:49] <dcordes> kjm: lol this doesn't help me any
[07:49] <AsheD> why does my LinkSys router hate me?
[07:49] <porkpie> segfault_:I normally use FreeBSD :(
[07:49] <lupine_85> porkpie: ip addr add <address>/subnet dev <interface>
[07:50] <sebsebseb> jaytheGreat:  you don't need a dual boot,   you can use both at same time
[07:50] <dcordes> AhseD you're lucky that it is not your dlink router that hates youz lol- theyre even worse. what's your problem my friend?
[07:50] <lupine_85> you might need to specify brd <broadcast address> as well
[07:50] <JaytheGreat> oh I can?
[07:50] <sebsebseb> yes
[07:50] <JaytheGreat> well dual boot is not what I want then?
[07:50] <sebsebseb> you want to run Windows and Linux on same PC right?
[07:50] <dcordes> so anybody can tell me how i can set which volume is controlled by my hotkeys?
[07:50] <sebsebseb> well depends
[07:50] <JaytheGreat> correct, and I have 2 seperate hard drives
[07:50] <sebsebseb> well if your a gammer with 3D games well virtual machiens suck for that
[07:50] <sebsebseb> ,but for everything else
[07:50] <sebsebseb> no problem
[07:51] <sebsebseb> virtual machines
[07:51] <segfault_> porkpie, man interfaces
[07:51] <kjm> dcordes : sorry - I thought you wanted to define the hot keys......
[07:51] <JaytheGreat> I set up a virtual machine?
[07:51] <sebsebseb> well yes you can do
[07:51] <LjL> sebsebseb, JaytheGreat: however, if you go the virtual machine route, you will have to reinstall your Windows. the copy of Windows you have currently installed is not likely to work in a virtual machine
[07:51] <segfault_> porkpie, nothing wrong with freebsd its just different
[07:51] <JaytheGreat> that's not an option then
[07:52] <sebsebseb> or he might be able to copy it over to a virtual machine
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> dcordes: have you tried uncle google?
[07:52] <dcordes> kjm: i want do define that when i press volume up/down on my logitech cordless desktop, my pcm volume goes up/down
[07:52] <crimsun> dcordes: 'Master' is controlled by default
[07:52] <LjL> sebsebseb: not really, i'm afraid Windows will panick as soon as it sees the "hardware" has changed so much :-\
[07:52] <sebsebseb> which Windows was he using?
[07:52] <sebsebseb> is he
[07:52] <dcordes> crimsun: that's the problem about which i came here --i have no master :-D
[07:52] <JaytheGreat> I want to show you all a picture
[07:52] <sebsebseb> which WIndows are you using?
[07:52] <JaytheGreat> me? xp pro
[07:53] <sebsebseb> ok and what's on there?
[07:53] <sebsebseb> that's not a big deal at all
[07:53] <sebsebseb> installing XP pro in a virtual machine
[07:53] <crimsun> dcordes: yes you do.
[07:53] <crimsun>  125. dcordes@dcordes-desktop:~$ amixer
[07:53] <crimsun>  126. Simple mixer control 'Master',0
[07:53] <sebsebseb> so you got XP on there?  with no Linux?
[07:53] <JaytheGreat> what's on here? a bunch of shit
[07:53] <dcordes> but it doesn't appear anywhere
[07:53] <kjm> dcordes : this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12159.html
[07:53] <JaytheGreat> http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualbootrf6.png  that is how my machine is set up now
[07:53] <dcordes> i can't control it in the volume manager neither with my keyboard
[07:53] <JaytheGreat> but I can't figure out how to boot into ubuntu doing this. it goes straight to XP
[07:54] <crimsun> dcordes: then you need to bind the hotkey manually. See hotkey-setup.
[07:54] <LjL> JaytheGreat, you mean you can't boot from the Ubuntu Desktop CD?
[07:54] <JaytheGreat> not using that set up. i've done it before when I completely take the XP hard drive out
[07:54] <samurai> thanks for all the help guys, going to go and reinstall now...
[07:55] <MtJB> anyone know how to set up serial modem on usb for ppc ubuntu?
[07:55] <sebsebseb> JaytheGreat:  do you have a boot loader coming up such as for example Grub?
[07:55] <sebsebseb> program that asks you which one to boot?
[07:55] <JaytheGreat> nope
[07:55] <sebsebseb> ok well that's your problem then I think
[07:55] <JaytheGreat> no, that's what I need to download?
[07:55] <JaytheGreat> alright. i just didn't know what I needed
[07:55] <sebsebseb> well if you got the Ubuntu CD
[07:55] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows an alternative to DVDshrink?
[07:55] <sebsebseb> I think there is an option for just installing Grub
[07:55] <LjL> JaytheGreat, what set up? i'm not following you anymore... 1) do you have ubuntu installed but can't get to it, or you haven't managed to get it installed yet?  2) if you have ubuntu already installed, did you change your IDE setup and then ubuntu stopped working?
[07:56] <JaytheGreat> http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualbootrf6.png that is my set up
[07:56] <sebsebseb> LijL: by the sounds of it he does not have a boot loader
[07:56] <JaytheGreat> ubuntu is installed and works fine when I remove the XP hard drive
[07:56] <Zaggynl> better get two different 80 wire IDE cables
[07:56] <lightcap_> I see server, desktop and alternative as downloads.  what's alternative?
[07:56] <sebsebseb> when you remove the XP hard drive and boot into Ubuntu what happens?  does Grub come up or what?
[07:56] <LjL> JaytheGreat: then it probably just means that your BIOS is set up so that the XP hard drive has a chance to boot first
[07:57] <LjL> JaytheGreat: try going into the BIOS and change the settings so that the *other* drive is the first boot drive
[07:57] <JaytheGreat> no, I remove the XP hard drive and just make the ubuntu hard drive "master" and it works fine
[07:57] <sebsebseb> well to be able to boot both
[07:57] <sebsebseb> with XP on one hard disk and Ubuntu on the other
[07:57] <sebsebseb> you must have
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> lightcap_: uses a text installer & you can use it to install software
[07:57] <JaytheGreat> so I just need a bootloader program to give me the option of which one to boot into?
[07:57] <dcordes> crimsun: how can i do this?
[07:57] <sebsebseb> a boot loader such as Grub on the "Master" Boot Record
[07:57] <dcordes> !hotkey-setup
[07:58] <lightcap_> TheGateKeeper: okay, thanks!
[07:58] <ubotu> hotkey-setup: auto-configures laptop hotkeys. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-17 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 160 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:58] <dcordes> !hotkey
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> lightcap_: np :-)
[07:58] <sebsebseb> yes without Grub or some other bootloader it won't ask you which OS to boot
[07:58] <JaytheGreat> ok, so I need Grub. by looking at the diagram, my hard drives are set up properly?
[07:58] <LjL> JaytheGreat, anyway, if the drive that's at the "middle" connector of the cable is the Master, and the one that is at the "far" end of the cable is the Slave, that's a wrong setup (at least if you have a modern ATA cable). The Master should be at the "far" end of the cable, always
[07:59] <JaytheGreat> what is incorrect about my diagram?
[07:59] <sebsebseb> yeah in the Bios you must make sure
[07:59] <sebsebseb> it boots from the master hard disk first
[07:59] <LjL> JaytheGreat: that the Master drive (i.e. the "Windows XP" drive, where you said the jumpers are set to Master) appears to be attached at the middle connector of the cable.
[08:00] <JaytheGreat> oh that is the IDE cable, I didn't draw any jumpers
[08:00] <sebsebseb> IDE 1 shou be your master hard disk
[08:00] <sebsebseb> and IDE2 should be the other one
[08:00] <JaytheGreat> [x000]  for master and [0000]  for slave right?
[08:01] <LjL> JaytheGreat: yes i know it is the IDE cable. i am saying that you've got the drives swapped. the master should be at the end of the cable, and the slave at the middle
[08:01] <JaytheGreat> ok let me check to see if I did that
[08:01] <seth220993> I have to go soon
[08:02] <LjL> JaytheGreat, that depends on the particular drive i suppose, i don't know the pin configurations. most drives have schematics for the pins drawn on them. you could just set both drives to Cable Select
[08:02] <sebsebseb> jaytheGreat:  1.  make sure the hard disks are set up right in the PC I guess,  and in the Bios.   2.  make sure you got Grub on the Master
[08:02] <sebsebseb> and then you should get Grub coming up
[08:02] <sebsebseb> asking you which OS to boot
[08:02] <JaytheGreat> you're right. I didn't draw the diagram correctly
[08:03] <JaytheGreat> in my Bios, it recognizes both hard drives, so i guess I just need Grub. right?
[08:03] <LjL> JaytheGreat: yeah, but you probably have it already installed... just on the wrong drive, i'd suppose
[08:03] <new_here> hi all
[08:03] <JaytheGreat> yes, so I'm on XP now I need to install grub on here?
[08:03] <JaytheGreat> XP=primary
[08:04] <LjL> JaytheGreat: (by the way, the IDE cable should also have a color code: Blue goes to the motherboard, Black goes to the master, Gray goes to the slave)
[08:04] <dufresnep>  /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/ubuntu-docs.postinst configure 6.10.2 seems to block my upgrade to ubuntu-docs (6.10.3)
[08:04] <tabasko> hi new_here :)
[08:04] <tabasko> nice nick
[08:04] <power83_> hi
[08:04] <LjL> JaytheGreat: no, you can't install Grub from XP. you can install it by booting the Ubuntu CD. or, IMHO, you could just try going into the BIOS and changing your boot drive to the other drive, and see if that works
[08:05] <power83_> i've installed ubuntu server i386 on a VIA EPIA M-10000 Nehemiah, but after reboot the kernel don't boot
[08:05] <new_here> need some help with weird ethernet problem (lots of rx errors, lots of tx overruns). can anyone please help?
[08:06] <JaytheGreat> ok, so if I set ubuntu as my primary boot then how would I get into XP?
[08:06] <LjL> JaytheGreat, if after doing what i said Grub works correctly, it should give you a choice for booting XP instead of Linux.
[08:06] <JaytheGreat> do I need to switch around my hard ware so that XP is slave or can I just change the bios settings?
[08:07] <Znuff> JaytheGreat, no
[08:07] <dufresnep> ununtu-docs update (killed the process, but it decided to retry :-/)
[08:07] <setnoff> Hi.. i am trying to install desktop CD. when I boot I chose "start or install" option. when X server is loaded a brown bakcground was showed at screen and nothing more. so I back to windows and tried to do the same process from vmware. It works perfect gnome was loaded.. what should be that?
[08:07] <LjL> JaytheGreat: I don't really know, it depends on what precisely the Ubuntu installer did, and how the drives were set up originally. I'd try with just the BIOS first -- although, if your drives are actually set incorrectly (i.e. Black is not the master and Gray is not the slave), you should still change that
[08:08] <new_here> setnoff, what's you graphics card model, chipset, maker?
[08:08] <JaytheGreat> i just checked and black is the master and gray is the slave
[08:09] <LjL> JaytheGreat: alright, then i suggest you just try changing the boot drive from the BIOS. if that fails, you can always change it back at least.
[08:09] <JaytheGreat> and Znuff said no, so... I guess all i have to do is make ubuntu the primary boot?
[08:09] <setnoff> new_here, intel. i guess i810. btw it's a laptop toshiba M series.
[08:09] <JaytheGreat> ok, and what do I do after ubuntu boots first?
[08:10] <sebsebseb> jaytheGreat:  it's a dual boot you carn't run both at same time.
[08:10] <sebsebseb> jaytheGreat:  you can only run XP or Ubuntu
[08:10] <JaytheGreat> I know that
[08:10] <new_here> setnoff, it's supposed to be well supported... ;-(
[08:10] <sebsebseb> jaytheGreat:  Grub will ask you which one to boot
[08:10] <kmaynard> in that case, when ubuntu boots...use it
[08:10] <new_here> setnoff, can you switch consoles (Ctrl+Fn) while installing?
[08:10] <JaytheGreat> ok, I don't know any linux commands yet so hopefully grub will do that for me
[08:11] <sebsebseb> no
[08:11] <sebsebseb> ,but Grub should do your hard disks for you
[08:11] <sebsebseb> the partitions so on
[08:11] <setnoff> new_here, yes man I tried to reconfigure and choice VESA driver.
[08:11] <sebsebseb> unless it's a complete mess
[08:11] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I have just swapped my IDE Intenral PCI controller (I have 4 HDD's attached to it internally). But none of my Mount points can be enabled now. Any ideas?
[08:11] <setnoff> new_here, then I kill gdm and started it again.. nothing.
[08:11] <JaytheGreat> ok, I should try this now then thanks for the help
[08:11] <setnoff> new_here, i can't understand how it can works on the same machine but using vmware.
[08:11] <Milkyy> Hello, my Audigy SE card still isn't working on ubuntu...
[08:12] <LjL> phew
[08:12] <new_here> setnoff, does the debugging console (i don't remember which one it is...) show anything interesting? like: vesa mode (un)supported or something?
[08:13] <new_here> setnoff, vmware emulates a different fairly standard graphics card, so ubuntu when running inside ubuntu does not tryh to load the same driver
[08:13] <setnoff> new_here, nah.. it's ok. when i tried ALT + BACK SPACE and then a login graphical was showed.. i Hope it's nothing about display driver..
[08:13] <new_here> setnoff, infact it emulates a whole different pc with totally different configuration when compared to your actual computer
[08:13] <setnoff> new_here, the question is that gnome isn't loaded completly.
[08:14] <new_here> setnoff, hm
[08:14] <setnoff> new_here, i can see the background but nothing is loaded after that.
[08:14] <l0st1> how do you completely remove a program?
[08:14] <LjL> l0st1: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[08:14] <new_here> setnoff, so it doesn't simply load and then X becomes unresponsive... that's strange
[08:15] <sentinel> I'm trying to install fuse 2.5.3, to be able to install ntfs-3g, but fuse asks for the path to the kernel. Where is it? I have a standard ubuntu installation (just pressed enter)
[08:15] <setnoff> new_here, really. don't know what to do.
[08:16] <ProN00b> how can i disable or redirect my pc speaker to my soundcard, like for the terminal bell ?
[08:16] <new_here> setnoff, it might only be an installation thing. if you feel comfortable with text-based installs, you might as well try to install using the alternative install cd
[08:16] <setnoff> new_here, what about alternate CD.. maybe with text installation could works..
[08:16] <setnoff> new_here, yes.. that's ok for me.
[08:16] <new_here> setnoff, after the installation things should be the same...
[08:16] <Laibsch> What is calling updatedb from time to time?  Seems like this is no cron job as it is in debian.
[08:16] <sentinel> I'm trying to install fuse 2.5.3, to be able to install ntfs-3g, but fuse asks for the path to the kernel. Where is it? I have a standard ubuntu installation (just pressed enter)
[08:16] <new_here> setnoff, it's not really hard you know. it has the same steps, it's just not pretty
[08:17] <setnoff> new_here, jup.. maybe.. seems like i will spent time to download alternate Cd.
[08:17] <LjL> ProN00b: there should be options in the terminal program you're using. if you want something more generic, perhaps try hack such as
[08:17] <LjL> !softbeep
[08:17] <ubotu> softbeep: System bell replacement. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-11 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 88 kB
[08:17] <new_here> setnoff, all the best mate. hopefully, you wont have any problems post-install
[08:17] <cryptonic> hmmm...... maybe they should take out the irish ubuntu server as an option to update ubuntu as the server does not seem to exsist, i fixed the problem i had earlier by clicking on the main server instead of the irish(default) server
[08:18] <new_here> need some help with weird ethernet problem (lots of rx errors, lots of tx overruns). can anyone please help?
[08:18] <ProN00b> LjL, its the system bell, i can disable it over system-preferences-sound
[08:18] <JaytheGreat> well that almost worked. i'm back in XP now
[08:19] <setnoff> new_here, it's debian based.. i work with debian always..
[08:19] <setnoff> new_here, thank ya brother.
[08:19] <sentinel> Hi. Can anyone help me locate where the kernel is in Ubuntu?
[08:19] <LjL> ProN00b: alright. i couldn't point you to the exact setting because i'm not on Gnome.
[08:19] <JaytheGreat> I did what you said, I went into bios and made my ubuntu the primary boot, then I restarted my system and ubuntu almost loaded then it gave me an error message
[08:19] <lupine_85> sentinal: /boot
[08:19] <JaytheGreat> said no such device
[08:19] <sentinel> ok. Thanks!
[08:20] <JaytheGreat> said "can not mount. no such device" or something like that
[08:20] <LjL> sentinel: /vmlinuz is a symlink to it. type "ls -l /vmlinuz". what do you need to do anyway?
[08:20] <ProN00b> does anyone else know how to get the system bell on your soundcard instead of your internal speaker ?
[08:20] <LjL> JaytheGreat: so, Grub is loading, and it can start both XP and Linux, but the Linux fails starting, while XP works ok?
[08:20] <new_here> setnoff, np mate
[08:20] <cryptonic> does gnome gui usually go blank after ubuntu has been updated?
[08:21] <JaytheGreat> grub doesn't load. well I'm not sure if it loads or not. it goes to the ubuntu screen then turns black and says "no such device" or something
[08:21] <JaytheGreat> if that black screen is Grub, then yes grub loads
[08:21] <kyledevans> anyone know where I can look/report bugs for the edgy rc?
[08:21] <s_spiff> anyopne here recently installed beryl?
[08:21] <LjL> JaytheGreat: ok, so to get back to XP you had to change the BIOS settings again?
[08:22] <JaytheGreat> yes
[08:22] <LjL> !beryl > s_spiff
[08:22] <LjL> JaytheGreat: when you say "the ubuntu screen" you mean the graphical splash screen?
[08:22] <JaytheGreat> yes
[08:22] <cryptonic> thx for the help everyone
[08:22] <JaytheGreat> and the little bar gets to about 10% before the black screen pops up and says "no such device
[08:22] <gizmo_the_great1> I have a drive I am trying to mount called /dev/hdc5 in mount point /home/ted/Mounts/vfat. When I click 'Enable' in Discs Manager it does nothing? I have check ownership and I am the owner. What's wrong?
[08:23] <s_spiff> LjL, thanks. like i said earlier, I already know all that. but the problem i was havin was about able to access the beryl package itself from the repos mentioned in the howtos.
[08:23] <Vornotron> I cannot detect the appropriate video card and monitor characteristics for my machine, and I don't have any idea what to look for to get decent information.
[08:23] <l0st1> "apt-get --purge <package>" will that imply to progs compiled from source?
[08:23] <aoupi> !roadmap
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <aoupi> !releases
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:24] <LjL> JaytheGreat: well, then i think Grub is loading. i believed it should show a menu by default, but apparently it doesn't. anyway, if you press Esc at the right time during boot (i.e. after the BIOS gives way to the system, i.e. just keep pressing Esc like mad until you see a menu), you can change the Grub options. i suspect that your Grub is trying to set the wrong root device for Ubuntu. when you see the Grub menu, go to the entry for Ubuntu,
[08:24] <LjL> and press "e" to edit it. you should have a line including something like "root=/dev/hda1". try changing that to "root=/dev/hdb1" (or vice versa). then press "b" to boot.
[08:24] <LjL> l0st1: no
[08:24] <JaytheGreat> you think the black screen is grub?
[08:25] <sebsebseb> been a while since I extracted something and then installed it,  so forggoton the command to extract so on.  extract then CD into directory and ./configure make make install I think
[08:25] <LjL> l0st1: to remove programs that you compiled from source tarballs, you'll have to type "make uninstall" from the original program's directory, if that's supported by the program. failing that, you'll have to remove files manually. perhaps next time you might consider using Checkinstall
[08:25] <JaytheGreat> should I be hitting "Escape" as the ubuntu spaslh screen loads or before that?
[08:26] <Adam-g> Anyone know where I would look for a log of failed suspend-to-ram? It was working up until this morning, after I ran the updates (but did not restart)
[08:26] <LjL> JaytheGreat: there are many "black screens" that i can think of during a system's boot process... no, press Esc *before* the splash loads. basically, start pressing it at the BIOS screen, and press it a couple of times
[08:26] <new_here> sebsebseb, try "$tar xvjf file.tar.bz2" or "$tar xvzf file.tar.gz"
[08:26] <JaytheGreat> ok
[08:26] <yrlnry> In Synaptic Package manager, what does the second column in the package listing mean?
[08:26] <JaytheGreat> i'll try this again. brb
[08:26] <gizmo_the_great1> I have a drive I am trying to mount called /dev/hdc5 in mount point /home/ted/Mounts/vfat. When I click 'Enable' in Discs Manager it does nothing? I have check ownership and I am the owner. What's wrong?
[08:26] <sebsebseb> new_here so  cd into direcotry  sudo xvijf file name .tar.bz2?
[08:27] <yrlnry> For most packages, it's blank; for some, it shown an Ubuntu logo.
[08:27] <lupine_85> sebsebseb: sudo xf does almost exactly the same thing :)
[08:27] <LjL> sebsebseb: no.  "tar xfwhatever filename.tar.bz2". no need for sudo normally, unless you're doing that in a directory that you don't own (which you shouldnt, anyway)
[08:27] <lupine_85> yrlnry: I think that ones with the ubuntu logo are from main
[08:27] <yrlnry> Thanks.
[08:27] <lupine_85> i.e. officially ubuntu
[08:28] <yrlnry> And what's the difference, in the first column, between a white box and a white box with a yellow star?
[08:28] <new_here> sebsebseb, LjL is right man
[08:28] <sebsebseb> ok
[08:28] <LjL> maybe, but on the other hand there is dinner ready for me :P
[08:28] <yrlnry> Never mind, I just found "Icon legend"
[08:28] <new_here> btw, need some help with weird ethernet problem (lots of rx errors, lots of tx overruns). can anyone please help?
[08:28] <compengi> how do i get the latest x-chat installed?
[08:29] <gizmo_the_great1> Come on...anyone? Surely not that much of a mystery? I have a drive I am trying to mount called /dev/hdc5 in mount point /home/ted/Mounts/vfat. When I click 'Enable' in Discs Manager it does nothing? I have check ownership and I am the owner. What's wrong?
[08:29] <sebsebseb> x-chat sucks
[08:29] <sebsebseb> Konversation the KDE app  is rather good :)
[08:29] <Utopiate> Gaim!
[08:29] <gizmo_the_great1> I starting to panic now - all my data is on them and they worked fine before
[08:29] <compengi> sebsebseb: nvm i want the x-chat :)
[08:30] <mikmu> I have a problem.  I installed a xen kernel from Edgy universe.  Everything works fine except for xorg.  Same config file as with the stock edgy kernel, but I get "(EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth." when booting the xen-enabled kernel.  I also see the message "VESA VBE Total Mem: 320 kB" while with the stock kernel, it detects 8000 kB
[08:30] <compengi> how can i get the latest one?
[08:30] <mikmu> Would anyone know what I should be looking into to?
[08:30] <kmaynard> mikmu, vmware probably
[08:30] <mikmu> kmaynard: heh, true
[08:31] <sharperguy> how come i cant talk on skype and play runescape (a java game online) at the same time?
[08:31] <compengi> i have the oldest x-chat 0.11, how can i get the latest?
[08:31] <sebsebseb> runescape is IE only I think Internet Explorer
[08:31] <sebsebseb> Activex game
[08:31] <mikmu> It must be some obscure kernel config blocking X from probing the correct amount of video ram
[08:31] <compengi> !multimedia
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:31] <new_here> gizmo, open a terminal and try "$sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /home/ted/Mounts/vfat" and let us know what's the output.
[08:32] <compengi> variant: do you know how to install the latest x-chat?
[08:32] <sebsebseb> !Internet Explorer
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Internet Explorer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <chowsapal> anyone have luck with WPA and a netgear MA521?
[08:32] <new_here> need some help with weird ethernet problem (lots of rx errors, lots of tx overruns). can anyone please help?
[08:33] <chowsapal> it's showing up great, and works with wep, but i thought i'd be able to use network manager to setup WPA
[08:33] <chowsapal> as it stands, I can't even figure out which driver to use for a manual wpa_supplicant configuration
[08:34] <JaytheGreat> ok :-(
[08:34] <JaytheGreat> I did what you said. I hit escape and grub loaded
[08:35] <s_spiff> any1 installed beryl using a howto provided in their wiki?
[08:35] <JaytheGreat> it gave me 3 options: 1. amd64-generic 2. amd64 (recovery mode) and 3. memtest86+
[08:35] <gizmo_the_great1> what does ' wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1' and ' wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd5,
[08:35] <gizmo_the_great1> ' mean, anyone? Please...I desperate
[08:35] <new_here> gizmo, what command did you run?
[08:35] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: sudo mount -a
[08:36] <new_here> gizmo, have you tried "$sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /home/ted/Mounts/vfat"??
[08:36] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, that you didnt specify the filesysten type, though you should. or that the partition/filesystem has been damaged
[08:36] <hobbesmaster> is there a seperate edgy eft channel?
[08:36] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, the filesystem type is defined by a '-t *', where * is you file system
[08:37] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: yes, tried that already. Already specified specified FS's. Unable to mount any of my drives in Disc Manager
[08:37] <new_here> gizmo, normally it should autodetect the filesystem, but nolimitsoya is right: that could be it as well, that why we use "-t vfat" in that command.
[08:37] <sharperguy> how come i cant talk on skype and play runescape (a java game online) at the same time?
[08:37] <gizmo_the_great1> They worked fine before though
[08:37] <JaytheGreat> wtf mate?
[08:37] <new_here> gizmo, are you sure about /dev/hda5? or /dev/hdd5
[08:37] <new_here> ?
[08:38] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, did you run any kind of file system checks, to look for coruption?
[08:38] <nolimitsoya> of has you fstab gone fubar?
[08:38] <nolimitsoya> *your
[08:38] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: here is my fstab entry : /dev/hdd5	/home/ted/Mounts/ext3	   ext3      rw,user,auto	   0       0
[08:38] <Bog> is there a very light vmware image of ubuntu available anywhere?
[08:39] <gizmo_the_great1> nolimitsoya: no i haven't - how do I do that?
[08:39] <new_here> gizmo, is that a windows disk?
[08:39] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: no - ext3
[08:39] <new_here> gizmo, or ... a linux one?
[08:40] <new_here> gizmo, then try the above command with "-t ext3".
[08:40] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, fsck should do that :)
[08:40] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: I have 4 X 160Gb HDD's all with either reiserFS or ext3. I swapped my IDE controller because the other was broke (I think) and when I rebooted I cannot mount
[08:40] <manudeb> i saw on i video with xgl that it was possible to have windows on one of the 4 desktops in gnome for exemple.. He probably run windows at the same time as Linux on the same machine ? Some one knowws how to do that ?
[08:40] <sebsebseb> ok  I got the program extracted into my home folder,  but now I need to move it to  the place I think?  some other folder?  so that I can ./configure make make install?
[08:40] <gizmo_the_great1> nolimitsoya: i will try that - I be back
[08:40] <sebsebseb> I mean the program has it's folder in my home folder
[08:40] <new_here> gizmo, try "$sudo fdisk -l"
[08:40] <new_here> gizmo, it'll output all partitions on all disks list
[08:41] <new_here> gizmo, maybe the device names have shifted around
[08:41] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, that is 'sudo mount /dev/hdd5 -t ext3 /home/ted/Mounts/ext3' to mount that drive. are you sure the map you are trying to mount to exists?
[08:42] <fbc> I'm trying to switchover and work solely in Ubuntu. Can someone recommend a graphics package that can work with Multi Layered PNG files?
[08:42] <gansinho> I'm having a problem while upgrading to edgy while it's "calculating the upgrade"
[08:42] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: checked that - all the same still
[08:42] <fatsheep> fbc: Have you tried Gimp?
[08:42] <fbc> I've already tried gimp..
[08:42] <gizmo_the_great1> nolimitsoya: yep - the mount exists. All of them do.
[08:42] <nolimitsoya> fbc, what do you mean?
[08:42] <fatsheep> oh
[08:42] <fbc> fatsheep: damn, you beat me to it..
[08:42] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, did you paste my line?
[08:43] <fbc> nolimitsoya: I need to open a png file and remove some of the layers in it.
[08:43] <fatsheep> you'd think Gimp would be able to do that I guess not...
[08:43] <nolimitsoya> fbc, whats wrong with gimp then?
[08:43] <gansinho> I'm using beryl/xgl, and cannot upgrade...=/
[08:43] <bawnpa> it will
[08:43] <fatsheep> maybe inkscape
[08:43] <fatsheep> I'd try inkscape
[08:44] <fbc> nolimitsoya: Gimp see it as a flat file or background.. you can't edit the existing layer, however it will allow you to create new layer..
[08:44] <gizmo_the_great1> nolimitsoya: yep - it reported same as b4 : 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd5,
[08:44] <gizmo_the_great1> '
[08:44] <nolimitsoya> fbc, are you sure there is a layer then, and that it hasnt been flattend by mistake?
[08:44] <instructor> Where can I find the logs fo r my sound systme?
[08:44] <instructor> system?
[08:44] <kaur> Hi my ipw3945 is sucking cpu (dual core) I used dapper before and then upgraded to edgy but that didn't help. This thing is killing my laptop. Please help
[08:45] <kaur> ipw3945 is a wireless card...
[08:45] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, mount all drives in order, and se if they have switched name to hdc, or something
[08:45] <fbc> nolimitsoya:  I'm sure because fireworks allows me to open the same file and remove or hide the layers, but gimp does not.
[08:45] <instructor> Where can I find the logs for my sound system?
[08:45] <nolimitsoya> fbc, as a dirty fix, move to another file format
[08:45] <gizmo_the_great1> nolimitsoya: I checked that already. They all the same and correspond to the mount points. how do I run fsck on the unmounted drives?
[08:45] <JamieBE> Would someone give me a hand with a Samba problem please?
[08:46] <kaur> Hi my ipw3945 (wireless card) is sucking cpu (dual core) I used dapper before and then upgraded to edgy but that didn't help. This thing is killing my laptop. Please help
[08:46] <fbc> nolimitsoya: What image format does GIMP recognize with layers?
[08:46] <nolimitsoya> fbc, its strange, becouse the gimps png support is held in very high regard. it is actualy one of the best pieces of software around for encoding pngs, for example
[08:46] <fatsheep> xfc
[08:46] <nolimitsoya> fbc, id say most. :) ive never found one that wasnt supported...
[08:46] <new_here> gizmo, ok mate, we have to admit things look bad... can you try "$sudo mount -t ext2 etc." (ext2 is compatible with ext3) and see what happens?
[08:47] <new_here> gizmo, fsck /dev/hda5
[08:47] <fatsheep> xcf rather...
[08:47] <new_here> gizmo, "$sudo fsck /dev/hda5"
[08:47] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, have you checked you drives s.m.a.r.t status, to make sure you havnt got a drive failure on your hands?
[08:47] <JamieBE> Someone, help with Samba please?
[08:47] <Bog> anyone suggest a free cpanel clone?
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> JamieBE, what do you need?
[08:48] <NetHaxor> how do i install flash player on my ubuntu 6.06.1 ?
[08:48] <JamieBE> Hi nolimitsoya, I have a problem sharing a folder on my USB 2.0 external drive over Ubuntu with my windows machines
[08:49] <nono_> bonsoir
[08:49] <gizmo_the_great1> new_here: reports that 'Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks..fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdd5. The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. ' etc etc
[08:49] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: All other folders share perfectly, just this one for external USB drive
[08:49] <NetHaxor> how do i install flash player on my ubuntu 6.06.1 ?
[08:49] <gizmo_the_great1> nolimitsoya: no - how do I do that?
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> JamieBE, just share the folder your drive is mounted in, no?
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, there are tools on the manufacturers webpage
[08:50] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: Drive is mounted, all share parameters appear correct, and modified like all other functional shares.
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> gizmo_the_great1, by the way, is the drive identityed correctly at bios level?
[08:51] <nolimitsoya> *identified
[08:51] <new_here> gizmo, try installing the S.M.A.R.T. monitoring tools "$ sudo apt-get install smartmontools"
[08:52] <porkpie> guy's how do get netowrk interface to come up automatically after a reboot
[08:52] <new_here> gizmo, and maybe S.M.A.R.T. notifier "$sudo apt-get install smart-notifier"
[08:52] <nono_> j'ai achet un pc portable ACer dot d'une carte ATI X1100, je me demandais si quelqu'un sait si cette carte est bien reconnue avec les drivers ATI ?
[08:52] <klm-> nono_: #ubuntu-fr
[08:53] <new_here> need some help with weird ethernet problem (lots of rx errors, lots of tx overruns). can anyone please help?
[08:53] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: I must have asked this question 10 times now and nobody has solved it yet. It seems very obvious.
[08:53] <nolimitsoya> JamieBE, i have no idea, what happens if you share one step up in the tree?
[08:53] <manudeb> is it possible to boot windows and Ubuntu at the same time ?
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> manudeb, yes, with a virtual pc running on one of the two
[08:54] <Renan_s2> manudeb, with VMware you can
[08:54] <Renan_s2> !vmware
[08:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:54] <oneseventeen> how do I send email from the command line using Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:54] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: You mean to share the entire /mount/VAULT directory? - I'll give it a go and see...
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> JamieBE, no!
[08:55] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: ?
[08:55] <nolimitsoya> i mean, mount in fex '/home/youuser/share/drive', and share 'share'
[08:56] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: "fex"?
[08:56] <ubuntu> Hi! My hard drive has crashed, so I am using an Ubuntu Live CD. How can I get more "disk space"? Uninstalling, say Open Office, takes up space!
[08:56] <nolimitsoya> new_here, what about broken tpcable?
[08:56] <nolimitsoya> JamieBE, for example :)
[08:56] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu, if your drive crashed thats no use anyway. :)
[08:56] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: ALL shares in my home DIR work ok, just the external drive directories that won't share :(
[08:57] <faith> hi, i have a soundblaster card, but it dont work properly with ubuntu
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: use badblocks on your hdd to see if it's ok first
[08:57] <willys_fueguino> http://images.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~fool/Humor/ubuntu-logo.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~fool/Humor/&h=354&w=492&sz=29&hl=es&start=2&tbnid=bFCOTR6-HNnjeM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dubuntu%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Des%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:es-AR:unofficial%26sa%3DN
[08:57] <willys_fueguino> take a look
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> JamieBE, as i said, mount in you home folder, and share one step above th mount
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:57] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: you can run it from the livecd
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> willys_fueguino, read, please ;)
[08:57] <willys_fueguino> nolimitsoya, its just a link, Im not flooding ;-)
[08:57] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: I think I see what you are saying - What is the command for mounting the drive?
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> faith, what card are you using?
[08:58] <ubuntu> nolimitsoya: Well ... starting with 165Mb available (on the so called unionfs partition), after "apt-get remove openoffice.org-common", only 122Mb is left :-/
[08:58] <nolimitsoya> willys_fueguino, a five line link is flooding
[08:58] <faith> sb Live PCI
[08:58] <krazykit> how odd.  i can't seem to access websites, but i'm still on IRC.  what's the IP of google?
[08:58] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu, yes, but whats the point when you got no hardrive?
[08:58] <nolimitsoya> faith, what isnt working?
[08:58] <faith> the volume control in ubuntu wont work with it
[08:59] <faith> and neither in xmms
[08:59] <mimithebrain> hi
[08:59] <mimithebrain> I have a problem setting up an xpilot server
[08:59] <faith> but it works in rythmbox :S
[08:59] <ubuntu> nolimitsoya: I want to be able to download data to work with. It will, of course, disappear, when I shut down, but...
[08:59] <faith> nolimitsoya: can u tell me what to do?
[09:00] <ubuntu> nolimitsoya: I guess that the Live CD in some way uses my RAM as "hard drive"?
[09:00] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu, try a distrubution that is ment to be portable. ubuntu isnt.
[09:00] <ubulinu> Can someone help me to check if this is a bug? (I'm beginner). It is about Openoffice Writer and a cups pdf printer on the cmdline. "ooffice -pt pdf-printer your.odt"
[09:00] <nolimitsoya> faith, are you sure your default soundcard is set to that live card?
[09:00] <ubuntu> nolimitsoya: I run Ubuntu Live, and there is 165Mb free space on this temporary partition. I want to create more space. Isn't that possible?
[09:01] <faith> how do i set default card in ALSA?
[09:01] <raintheory> !twinview
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <brasko> hi, is there any way I can get debian's packages from the command line?
[09:01] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu, as i said, youd be better of trying a distro that is ment to be portable
[09:01] <brasko> I need to install esmtp
[09:01] <ubuntu> brasko: Add the repositoris and use apt-get?
[09:01] <mimithebrain> brasko: aptitude
[09:01] <fatsheep> yea just use the dpkg -i <packagename> command
[09:01] <hobbesmaster> i'm trying to get suspend to disk (hibernate) working on an ibm thinkpad t41 in edgy eft - when I hit suspend in gnome or use the hotkey (fn-f12), ubuntu writes to the disk for a while with the suspend light flashing and then shuts off.  when coming back up, grub comes up and when I select ubuntu, it waits for a while flashing _ and then goes with a normal cold startup
[09:02] <Dextorion> woah, edgy is on a dvd?
[09:02] <|Philipp|> brasko: wget and dpkg if theyre not in your repositorys
[09:02] <ubuntu> nolimitsoya: Perhaps I will try that, but my question was: Is this possible in Ubuntu?
[09:02] <raintheory> anyone here using twinview?
[09:02] <Blissex> ubufor twinView look at #NVIDIA's /topic
[09:02] <Blissex> faith: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundsAlsa#tasks
[09:02] <Dextorion> was dapper on dvd aswell? Oo
[09:02] <raintheory> Blissex, thx
[09:02] <hobbesmaster> Dextorion: dapper is definately on CD, I have 50 of them sitting next to me for my next LUG meeting
[09:02] <mimithebrain> um. looks like xpilot is now a dead project :(
[09:02] <raintheory> join #nvidia
[09:02] <faith> Blissex:  the page was not found
[09:03] <faith> :(
[09:03] <raintheory> whoops
[09:03] <Dextorion> hobbesmaster: indeed.
[09:03] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu, i dont know, but either way, its an installation program and not a live distro. you shouldnt expect functionality as if it where. you are, for the thrid time, better of trying a distro geared towards you needs.
[09:03] <Blissex> faith: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundsALSA#tasks
[09:03] <Dextorion> what the hell have they done with edgy? heh
[09:04] <faith> Blissex: The requested URL /Notes/linuxSoundsALSA was not found on this server.
[09:04] <Dextorion> that feels really wierd.  Why would the install be on a dvd and be somewhat like 3gb when they have it all on the repos?
[09:04] <porkpie> how long should it take to restart the networking
[09:04] <Blissex> faith: argh my memory...
[09:04] <Blissex> faith: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundsALSA.html#tasks
[09:04] <hobbesmaster> dextorion: they broke S4 on my laptop, thats what they did :P
[09:04] <faith> hehe
[09:04] <faith> :P
[09:04] <Dextorion> hobbesmaster: s4 ?
[09:04] <mimithebrain> anyone, does hostname and domain name affect linux boxes from connecting to each other in any way?
[09:04] <hobbesmaster> dextorion: suspend to disk
[09:05] <Dextorion> hobbesmaster: Ah..
[09:05] <faith> Blissex:  look deeper :P
[09:05] <porkpie> I have just ran sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  ...and all I have is a flashing cursor
[09:05] <hobbesmaster> first linux i've seen where suspend to ram worked bettter than to disk!
[09:05] <Dextorion> hobbesmaster: oh!  good thing im not running it on my laptop then
[09:05] <Blissex> faith: this one from the pagbe itself: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksDefault
[09:05] <dipple_wand> Where can i change my nickname (MSN) under GAIM ?
[09:05] <mimithebrain> use the nick command
[09:05] <usual> Where would I change the server name in apache2 in ubuntu server
[09:05] <Jowi> mimithebrain, no, but it does make it easier to connect to "mimibox" instead of 192.168.0.15
[09:05] <porkpie> *Reconfiguring network interfaces ?????
[09:05] <usual> I can't seem to find it
[09:05] <bur[n] er> usual: /etc/hostname ?
[09:06] <usual> bur[n] er: no, for apache
[09:06] <faith> Blissex: thanks it works now :P
[09:06] <cryptonic> does anyone know if there are any ubuntu install packages of skype around the place?
[09:06] <talisein> you'll need to look at an apache hoto
[09:06] <Blissex> cryptonic: the Debian '.deb' should work...
[09:06] <talisein> *howto
[09:06] <Jowi> !skype
[09:06] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:06] <usual> talisein: every dist does apache2 different
[09:07] <Blissex> usual: depends whether you used the autoconfigured or did a manual config. First case rerun it; seocn dcase, read the HOWTO as someone suggested.
[09:07] <cbx33> With a dual core, can I tell an application to run on both processors, like in windows....*shudder*
[09:07] <usual> Blissex: ubuntu ran auto configurations
[09:07] <usual> Blissex: It usually is in like httpd.conf or apache2.conf but I dont see it
[09:07] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: I did "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home/jamie/.share" and then shared it but still get the same error
[09:07] <Blissex> usual: then rerun it with 'dpkg-reconfigure apache2' probably.
[09:08] <porkpie> guy's I am struggling here to get the network interfaces up ....can anyone help please
[09:08] <rcarr> cbx33: Nothing can magically parallelize your applications
[09:08] <Blissex> usual: the autoconfigurator split the config in a lot of small files. Check 'conf.d/' subsir
[09:08] <cbx33> rcarr, no I kinda meant more like restricting certain apps to one processor
[09:08] <cbx33> or allowing it to use which ever it wants
[09:08] <rcarr> cbx33: Ah, yes
[09:08] <Blissex> cbx33: that's called ''affinity'' and there are utils to do that, and system calls. Web search./
[09:08] <Jowi> porkpie, you got several on a single machine?
[09:08] <porkpie> ah fixed :)
[09:08] <cbx33> Blissex, thanks
[09:09] <rcarr> cbx33: I think you are looking for bind
[09:09] <faith> Blissex: i dont get it!!
[09:09] <cbx33> thanks rcarr
[09:10] <rcarr> cbx33: the usage is bind pid cpu_mask
[09:10] <rcarr> cbx33: so process 1200 on core 2 is "bind 1200 2"
[09:10] <faith> my integrated sound card dont work so i have to set my sb live card as primary default
[09:10] <cbx33> rcarr ahh so does that move that process to that processor?
[09:10] <usual> Blissex: how would I search the entire partition in files for a string like ServerName
[09:11] <rcarr> cbx33: Yeah
[09:11] <cbx33> wow cool
[09:11] <Jowi> cbx33, core 0 is usually the first and core 1 the second one
[09:11] <cbx33> is bind an extra util or does it come with systems?
[09:12] <JamieBE> nolimitsoya: We're close - I can feel it in my marrow!!
[09:12] <Blissex> usual: if you got a GUI with a file manager just use the search inside the file manager, else use 'find /etc/apache2 -type f | xargs egrep ServerName'
[09:12] <rcarr> cbx33: It comes with systems
[09:12] <cbx33> yeh I see
[09:12] <cbx33> it should be integrtated into system manger
[09:12] <gandolftheiwzar1> ok need some help installing the flash plug-in please
[09:12] <sipher> Is there a torrent for the live cd? The US mirrors are pretty crap
[09:12] <cbx33> so you can right click a process
[09:12] <sipher> I was getting 45KB/s on one
[09:12] <Blissex> BIND is a DNS name server...
[09:13] <cbx33> rcarr, presumably, that will only stay until that process ends?
[09:13] <LjL> sipher, sure. it's listed in the download pages
[09:13] <Blissex> cbx33: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6799
[09:13] <rcarr> cbx33: Yeah
[09:13] <Blissex> cbx33: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
[09:13] <sipher> LjL: I'm not seeing it
[09:14] <phaedra> sipher,  http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/
[09:15] <cbx33> thanks Blissex
[09:15] <LjL> sipher: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ - scroll down
[09:16] <oneseventeen> can I use mailutils to send email from a different user?
[09:16] <cbx33> is there then a way to check which processor a process is running on?
[09:16] <oneseventeen> (such as send from foo@example.com instead of from oneseventeen@mymachine.com )
[09:17] <rcarr> err
[09:17] <rcarr> tehres a system call sched_getaffinity, but I'm not sure of a program
[09:17] <Blissex> oneseventeen: only if you have permission to do so.
[09:18] <sipher> 300KB/s.. much better
[09:18] <sipher> heh
[09:18] <brasko> is it possitble to remove postfix, but not mutt?
[09:18] <brasko> I want to use mutt with exim
[09:19] <Blissex> brasko: sure. They are totally independent.
[09:19] <brasko> $ apt-get remove postfix
[09:19] <brasko> The following packages will be REMOVED: mutt postfix
[09:19] <sparkleytone> where does the sun-java5-jdk package install the jdk to?
[09:19] <oneseventeen> Blissex: I'm trying to set up a script to send an email newsletter out, but our spam firewall keeps blocking it... should I be doing some complicated smtp stuff to make it work with our exchange server or something?
[09:19] <xulund> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458
[09:19] <sparkleytone> i'm writing up some docs and need to know...i always self-install java
[09:19] <Blissex> brasko: you probably don't even need to remove Postfix, installing 'exim' should lead to its removal. Not sure though.
[09:19] <[Daniel] > Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Edgy and I'm running into a problem. :-)
[09:20] <[Daniel] > I'm in the "Prepare mount points" dialog and the "Forward" button is greyed out no matter what partitions I select. What do I do? Help! :-)
[09:20] <justmike> How much stuff can I update if I have the Live CD for
[09:20] <sipher> I can't wait for fiber to the home.. but it will be a loooong time before it's available in my area
[09:20] <Blissex> brasko: probably 'mutt' got autoinstalled when 'postfix' was installed, and now gets autoremoved...
[09:20] <sipher> Wish I could get FIOS
[09:20] <Blissex> brasko: try 'apt-get install mutt', it might mark it as manually installed. Or use Aptitude for finer control.
[09:21] <crazy_penguin> Good evening to everyone!
[09:21] <justmike> How much stuff can I update if I have the Live CD for Ubuntu 6.10 and am just running it live?
[09:21] <Ranbee> hi, i installed xubuntu, then installed the gnome-desktop i think. there are lots of things missing which come as ubuntu defaults, like gnome-screenshot. is there an easy way to get all the ubuntu default programs?
[09:21] <rredd4> how do i aim the cue ball in foobillard... i could not figure it out from the man page or f1
[09:22] <kmaynard> Ranbee, try ubuntu-desktop
[09:22] <cryptonic> does anyone know where i can get desktop themes, not backgrounds or wallpapers, iv found a site called gnome-look.org but it seems to be mostly just mockups
[09:22] <Ranbee> kmaynard: great thanks :)
[09:22] <gandolftheiwzar1> can someone please help me with the flash plug-in?
[09:23] <Ranbee> rredd4: try holding down different mouse buttons and moving the mouse, i think the mouse-wheel does things too.
[09:23] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: yes, have you enabled multiverse?
[09:23] <GhostFreeman> How would I make an application send any outbound text to a textfile?
[09:23] <Blissex> justmike: not a lot :-)
[09:23] <LjL> GhostFreeman: that's called a "redirect".    "command >filename"
[09:23] <JsonT> hiya all. anybody that have some experience about wlan in linux?
[09:23] <rredd4> Ranbee  ok, i am using a laptop, no mouse wheel
[09:23] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[09:23] <jrib> GhostFreeman: application > /path/to/textfile    (or use &> to grab stderr and stdout)
[09:24] <LjL> !cli > GhostFreeman
[09:24] <Blissex> Ranbee: 'gnome-desktop' should have done it...
[09:24] <[Daniel] > Does anyone know if the "Prepare mount points" dialog works in Ubuntu Edgy beta?
[09:24] <Ranbee> rredd4: oh, sorry, i don't know then
[09:24] <Blissex> !gnome
[09:24] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:24] <gandolftheiwzar1> yes i have
[09:24] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: ok, have you installed flashplugin-nonfree?  Also try to prefix what you say with my name so that my highlight activates
[09:24] <rredd4> Ranbee  i don't see anything in the man page about aiming.. or is it called something else
[09:25] <gandolftheiwzar1> as fare as i know i just installed java so it must be
[09:25] <Blissex> Ranbee: perhaps you want to use 'aptitude' to pick and choose things you like. 'aptitude' lists them by topic.
[09:25] <Ranbee> Blissex: i'm going to try ubuntu-desktop right now and see if there's a difference, would you try gnome-desktop first?
[09:25] <Blissex> Ranbee: does not matter a lot, dependencies are magic.
[09:25] <Ranbee> rredd4: i really don't know, i've only played it a few times
[09:25] <rredd4> Ranbee ok, ty
[09:26] <Ranbee> Blissex: does apptitude have all the same commands as apt-get? search policy show etc? i'll try anyway
[09:26] <exhale> is there a way to install gnome 2.16 in dapper?
[09:26] <Blissex> Ranbee: it is a text GUI program... Try it.
[09:26] <JsonT> what do I need to do to get my wlan to work? (a laptop, no pcmcia card)
[09:26] <jrib> exhale: not recommended, edgy will be released as stable in less than a week with 2.16
[09:26] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: I have installed java and now i can't get the plug in
[09:26] <LjL> Ranbee: most of them. some more also.
[09:26] <Synner> hello everyone..  question about the installation of ubuntu server from CD...  I start comp with cd in the drive..  selection screen comes up..  however i can't do anything, i am guessing its due to the fact that my mouse and keyboard are USB.. what should I do?
[09:27] <Blissex> JsonT: a supported chipset, of which there aren't many.
[09:27] <GhostFreeman> Well i'm using both > and &> but its not writing that stuff to the textfile
[09:27] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[09:27] <exhale> ok thanks, jrib
[09:27] <gandolftheiwzar1> k
[09:27] <nolimitsoya> Synner, unplug and replug
[09:27] <Ranbee> LjL: great, i'll see what i can find out now :)
[09:27] <GhostFreeman> its just making a blank textfile
[09:27] <LjL> GhostFreeman: what's the command you're using precisely
[09:27] <Blissex> GhostFreeman: #BASH but first read a nice tutorial...
[09:27] <GhostFreeman> scp
[09:27] <justmike> Blissex:  I guess I am not asking the question the right way....from a security standpoint, are there updates to the Ubuntu 6.10 Live CD that I should grab so I don't get attacked by a known vulnerability?
[09:27] <Synner> nolimitsoya: tried that, every single port on the comp.. none worked
[09:28] <nolimitsoya> Synner, is you usbcontrollers enabled?
[09:28] <Blissex> justmike: probably yes. Always a good idea.
[09:28] <exhale> justmike, you cant install updates when running the live cd i think
[09:28] <tritium> justmike: 6.10 will be released next week.
[09:28] <LjL> GhostFreeman: scp what?
[09:28] <RawSewage_> How can I throttle the speed with KLibido
[09:28] <Blissex> justmike: anyhow you got to install to do that.
[09:28] <Synner> i believe so, I have XP on the system now..  everything works fine..
[09:28] <GhostFreeman> scp ~/irclogs/Rizon/index.html ghostfreeman@<REMOVED>:public_html/chanstats > ~/errtextfile
[09:29] <GhostFreeman> index.html being the output from pisg
[09:29] <gandolftheiwzar1> what is the postbin addy please
[09:29] <jrib> GhostFreeman: erm I think it may actually be >& not &>
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > GhostFreeman
[09:29] <Synner> nolimitsoya, i believe so, I have XP on the system now..  everything works fine..
[09:29] <Ranbee> it looks like i need ubuntu-desktop, thanks for the help
[09:29] <LjL> GhostFreeman: and you want the errors to be logged to errtextfile? if so, use "    2> ~/errtextfile"
[09:29] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > gandolftheiwzar1
[09:30] <TheGateKeeper> GhostFreeman: sorry wrong person :-(
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> Synner, usb legacy keyboard enabled in bios?
[09:30] <GhostFreeman> what about all text?
[09:30] <GhostFreeman> even if it's not an error?
[09:30] <LjL> GhostFreeman: programs have to standard ways to output stuff to the console: "standard output", and "standard error". you need to redirect the one(s) you need. you redirect stdout with "1>" (or just ">"), and stderr with "2>"
[09:30] <blackmamba23> hi all
[09:30] <blackmamba23> i have an issue when i try to compile something
[09:31] <LjL> GhostFreeman: i don't know how scp behaves in that respect, but it may conceivably use stderr for its diagnostic output
[09:31] <justmike> The updates won't stay, but technically can't I install everything except the Linux kernel and still run the Live CD with the understanding everything will disappear when I shut the box off?  (Correct me if I am wrong.)
[09:31] <blackmamba23> after i run configure at the and i have this problem
[09:31] <blackmamba23> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[09:31] <GhostFreeman> this really dosen't help but I appreciate it
[09:31] <mistform> herro
[09:31] <ianmacgregor> What must I install to get Firefox to be able to load pdf documents?
[09:31] <LjL> blackmamba23: install libxml-parser-perl
[09:31] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27529/
[09:31] <Plecebo> I just did a clean install of Edgy and when i rebooted i get a blank screen (i thought x config but when i switch to a virtual terminal via ctrl+alt+f1 the screen scrambles). I can hear the "i'm ready for you to login sound" and if i type my username and password it will make the "i'm logging in sound" but still no display, any ideas?
[09:32] <ianmacgregor> !restricted > ianmacgregor
[09:32] <peteweez> Does anyone know a shell command to reset a USB port (i.e. reconnect my iPod after ejecting without physically disconnecting the USB cable)?
[09:32] <LjL> !edgy > Plecebo
[09:32] <GhostFreeman> been trying to get a cronjob that would generate and upload a stats page for an IRC channel to work for the past couple of days and i'm not having any luck
[09:32] <JsonT> maybe im just slow, but ive got a integrated wlan card in a hp compaq nc8000 laptop and want that to work, im sorry if i missed the other answer.
[09:32] <Celeste> hi
[09:32] <GhostFreeman> the script works fine in bash, but not in cron
[09:32] <mistform> ianmacgregor, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_PDF_Reader_.28Adobe_Reader.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:32] <Plecebo> LjL,  thanks
[09:33] <ianmacgregor> mistform: Ahh, thank you
[09:33] <Celeste> I just started ubuntu via Live-CD ... how can I install  grub or lilo or whatever bootloader there is available?   I installed WIndows XP to a partition and it killed my bootloader I had
[09:33] <Ranbee> is there a way to inistall everything included in the ubuntu-desktop, except for all the OOo stuff, using aptitude?
[09:33] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[09:33] <anon32> why would anyone want Adobe's PDF reader?
[09:33] <mistform> because of lack of experience, an
[09:33] <peteweez> anon32: Adobe's reader is a little more accurate than say xpdf.
[09:33] <mistform> anon32
[09:33] <anon32> Celeste, run grub from a terminal
[09:33] <mistform> yeah
[09:33] <mistform> .....
[09:33] <Mow02> anon32, isn't adobe reader more "compatible" or something
[09:34] <peteweez> It runs slower though
[09:34] <anon32> peteweez, and quite a bit heavier too...
[09:34] <LjL> !grubrepair > Celeste
[09:34] <scrub18m> hello guys, i installed compiz but compiz start does not work. what could be wrong ?
[09:34] <peteweez> anon32: no kidding
[09:34] <ezerhoden> peteweez: just mount it again
[09:34] <mistform> anyone here know a program to sense CPU temps?
[09:34] <LjL> !compiz > scrub18m
[09:34] <ezerhoden> mistform: gkrellm
[09:34] <peteweez> ezerhoden: can't...it's ejected
[09:34] <mistform> I have i8kutils installed
[09:34] <mistform> but idfk how to use it....
[09:34] <Kenotic> I am have  problem with totem
[09:34] <Celeste> thasnk you anon32
[09:34] <Celeste> thank you LjL
[09:34] <Kenotic> all the colors look washed out
[09:34] <Kenotic> and the wites are to bright
[09:35] <mistform> ezerhoden, apt-get gkrellm?  how do I use it?
[09:35] <anon32> compiz made me do a hardware reset...
[09:35] <porkpie__> guy's whats the name of the package ee
[09:35] <ezerhoden> mistform: gkrellm2 i think launches it , then right click on it to configure
[09:35] <LjL> mistform: i believe you must also have the "lm-sensors" package installed to read sensor data. when you have it installed, you then need to run "sensors-detect" to configure it for your system's sensors.
[09:35] <jrib> porkpie__: ee ?
[09:35] <jrib> !info ee
[09:35] <ubotu> ee: An "easy editor" for novices and compuphobics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4.2-5 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:35] <mistform> LjL, thank you
[09:35] <mistform> ezerhoden, I will try it out
[09:36] <mistform> gkrellm2 is 2mb.....
[09:36] <porkpie__> jrib:just tried sudo apt-get install ee but it couldn't find it
[09:36] <LjL> horrible
[09:36] <willys_fueguino> hi!! I need to talk with someone who design ubuntu logos in pv
[09:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell porkpie__ about universe
[09:37] <ezerhoden> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[09:37] <chowsapal> does anyone know which wpa_supplicant driver to use with wlan cards that work out of the box with dapper?
[09:37] <chowsapal> is that ndiswrapper?
[09:37] <ezerhoden> mistform: that command will do it
[09:37] <mistform> LjL, No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:37] <mistform> LjL, that's when I ran sensors-detect
[09:37] <LjL> mistform: try "sudo modprobe i2c-dev"
[09:37] <mistform> did I mention I am on a Dell Laptop?
[09:37] <{alejandro}> if I have a question about edgy, do I take t to ubuntu+1?
[09:37] <willys_fueguino> no one??
[09:37] <LjL> {alejandro}: yes
[09:37] <willys_fueguino> :-
[09:37] <{alejandro}> ok
[09:38] <snooplsm> I set up open ssh, using sudo apt-get install openssh*  but when i try doing ssh ryan@localhost it says port 22 isn't open...  Any help?
[09:38] <ezerhoden> mistform: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[09:38] <jrib> willys_fueguino: maybe #ubuntu-art
[09:38] <boricua> trying to update to edgy i am left with a very unstable system.  now i cant get into x and cant even sftp into to get error file to paste during boot eveything is ok with the exception of loading hardware drivers failed  and debian version shows test/unstable  instead of dapper or edgy
[09:38] <boricua> plse help
[09:38] <mistform> LjL, did the modprobe
[09:38] <LjL> !edgy > boricua
[09:38] <blackmamba23> i did install now the parser package
[09:38] <blackmamba23> now i get this
[09:38] <blackmamba23> You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build Gaim.
[09:38] <LjL> mistform: yeah, try sensors-detect again. also see what ezerhoden told you, you *should* be able to read the temperature from there with a modern system
[09:38] <willys_fueguino> jrib, thanx dud
[09:39] <jrib> blackmamba23: gaim is in the repositories
[09:39] <blackmamba23> i want the beta
[09:39] <mistform> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:39] <mistform> same thing
[09:39] <jrib> !gaim2
[09:39] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[09:39] <tritium> blackmamba23: the beta is in edgy
[09:39] <blackmamba23> coz msn doesnt work
[09:39] <{alejandro}> what is the terminal command for the gnome disk manager
[09:39] <mistform> even after modprobe
[09:39] <tritium> coz is not an English word
[09:39] <blackmamba23> how do i get msn? then?
[09:39] <anon32> blackgraz, do you have the edgy repos installed?
[09:39] <LjL> !gaim2 > blackmamba23
[09:39] <{alejandro}> the one that shows up in the menu as discs under system/administration
[09:40] <mistform> AHA
[09:40] <Zaggynl> so, what are the pro's and con's of edgy vs dapper?
[09:40] <SurfnKid> Zaggynl, good question
[09:40] <mistform> ezerhoden, it was THM/temperature, no THM0/temperature
[09:40] <{alejandro}> Zaggynl edgy is still a bit unstable
[09:40] <LjL> {alejandro}: perhaps gparted - not sure it's that one, i don't use gnome
[09:40] <exhale> just wait a week =)
[09:40] <mistform> thanks for the help, guys
[09:40] <{alejandro}> Ljl it isn't gparted
[09:40] <{alejandro}> it's like gnome-disks or something
[09:40] <Zaggynl> I heard edgy is faster
[09:41] <SurfnKid> i like dapper so far
[09:41] <LjL> !edgy > Zaggynl
[09:41] <SurfnKid> not changing it in a long time
[09:41] <Zaggynl> cheers
[09:41] <anon32> Zaggynl, possibly
[09:41] <exhale> !edgy
[09:41] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:41] <exhale> !schedule
[09:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:41] <tritium> Zaggynl: boot-up and shutdown certainly is faster
[09:41] <Zaggynl> I find ubuntu dapper slower then my windows xp though :( might have to do with the fact windows runs on my SATA hdd
[09:41] <mistform> 37C
[09:42] <islan> is there a way to keep the audio from going out of sync in streaming video with mplayer?
[09:42] <tritium> s/then/than
[09:42] <ezerhoden> islan: yes
[09:42] <SurfnKid> sure is slower, but then again its taken a lot of hard work :)
[09:42] <ezerhoden> islan: once sec
[09:42] <islan> ezerhoden, really?  wow, I was just shooting in the dark, thanks
[09:42] <anon32> I find dragging windows around slower in Dapper
[09:43] <ezerhoden> islan: - and Shift + keys
[09:43] <anon32> I also find the subpixel anti-aliasing buggy
[09:43] <ezerhoden> islan: man mplayer will show alot of cool stuff
[09:43] <islan> ezerhoden, k, thanks
[09:44] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/
[09:44] <Zaggynl> Not saying windowsxp is better then ubuntu dapper, just faster, but then again, I'm not as good at ubuntu dapper yet
[09:44] <ezerhoden> islan: bugged me till i dived into the man page one booring day
[09:44] <Zaggynl> is there some sort of services.msc in dapper? so I can change which services start at boot?
[09:44] <islan> ezerhoden, do I just click on the streaming video itself and hit those keys (don't want to get mixed up with firefox hot-keys just in case)
[09:44] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:45] <ljlolel> where is the flash 9 installation tutorial? preferably one with .deb's?
[09:45] <ezerhoden> islan: yes
[09:45] <gandolftheiwzar1> i have that
[09:45] <iwkse> hi all.. anybody using nfs?
[09:45] <jrib> !flash9
[09:45] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[09:45] <Baybed> What motherboard will guarantee me that ubuntu will work? Now I have an asus p4c800 and I get shitted over in the install
[09:45] <anon32> ljlolel, just download it and read the README
[09:45] <anon32> geez
[09:45] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib, i have that
[09:45] <islan> ezerhoden, groovey, didn't think the plugin would be helped by the man page
[09:45] <FunnyLookinHat> !language
[09:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:45] <Bog> anyone here ever use the ubuntu server vmware image?
[09:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, that's strange.  I doubt your mobo was the issue...
[09:45] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: what does it say?
[09:45] <ezerhoden> ahh, plug-in i dont know
[09:45] <ezerhoden> islan: ^^
[09:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, I have an ASUS in my media box and it runs dapper drake fine
[09:46] <ezerhoden> islan: never tried it that way
[09:46] <ezerhoden> islan: let me know  if it works
[09:46] <islan> ezerhoden, oh, well, that's how I get my streaming video.  the audio is in sync from the beginning, but then the video starts going ahead of it
[09:47] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: says the same  thing
[09:47] <Baybed> FunnyLookinHat: the error I get is hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[09:47] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: I don't know what "same thing" is, can you copy and paste?
[09:47] <cryptonic> which version of gnome is in edgy?
[09:47] <davvs_> is ubuntu suse linux?
[09:47] <gandolftheiwzar1> same thing that i pastbin  when i was trying to install flash
[09:47] <amicrawle> how to i get my normal resalution back again
[09:47] <LjL> davvs_: no.
[09:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, have you set the master/slave settings on your drives correctly?
[09:47] <davvs_> ok :P
[09:48] <amicrawle> it is @ 640x480
[09:48] <Bog> whats installed with the vmware image?
[09:48] <iwkse> i'm having problems mount a nfs filesystem. when i try mount -t nfs host:/local /share it idle a lot of time till i get the prompt and after it when i ls /share i get "ls reading directory: input output error". Any hints?
[09:48] <amicrawle> will not go back eather
[09:48] <LjL> !ubuntu > davvs_
[09:48] <nylund> '
[09:48] <amicrawle> any help would be nice
[09:48] <Baybed> FunnyLookinHat: I have one HDD, and one CDROM, how should they be set?
[09:48] <islan> ezerhoden, oh, it's not mplayer, it's flash player 7, and flash doesn't seem to ever work very good on ubuntu
[09:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Baybed, to the SINGLE setting.  i fthose don't have a setting for those drives, set them to master
[09:49] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:49] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: here is the past bin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27534/
[09:49] <ezerhoden> islan: hopefully flash 9 will be better
[09:49] <Baybed> FunnyLookinHat: HDD as primary IDE master, CDROM as secondary IDE Master?
[09:49] <cappe> I have edited my grub-config-file menu.lst (added FreeBSD lines) in there.. how do I save it? I have tried several times to use sudo grub-update but it will only delete the lines containing freebsd.. :S
[09:49] <FunnyLookinHat>  Baybed yes, but the jumper settings hva eto match
[09:50] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: be sure to run 'sudo apt-get update' beforehand
[09:50] <Baybed> brb
[09:50] <lukaswayne9> Can you boot into a command-line only ubuntu live disk?
[09:51] <ikus060> There is some one that already manage a LDAP server, I have some basic question about the main structure of the LDAP server and the LDAP - Application structure .. I already try the #ldap channel ..
[09:51] <ezerhoden> lukaswayne9: for what purpose?
[09:51] <lukaswayne9> ezerhoden: I'd like to boot into a command-line system on a windows box to backup all the files
[09:52] <lukaswayne9> it's sorta old, and the full live cd doesn't work too well
[09:52] <scompany> Hello people...
[09:52] <ezerhoden> lukaswayne9: systemrescuecd is a good cd to have for that
[09:52] <cappe> do I have to do anything at all after have added lines in the menu.lst or is it just to reboot and prey??
[09:52] <lukaswayne9> ezerhoden: i'll check it out
[09:52] <islan> has anyone else had problems with streamtuner's recorder since Dapper Drake release?
[09:53] <scompany> Can someone help me with
[09:53] <LjL> cappe: i usually reboot and pray.
[09:53] <tritium> cappe: only predators prey
[09:53] <scompany> adding persistant routes?
[09:53] <lupine_85> you mean static routes?
[09:53] <cappe> :D
[09:53] <scompany> yea...
[09:53] <lupine_85> ip route add
[09:54] <cappe> later guys hopefully in BSD-environment :)
[09:54] <lupine_85> e.g. ip route add default via <gateway> dev <interface>
[09:54] <scompany> route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 192.168.2.1
[09:54] <scompany> this need to be static
[09:54] <Astro73> I would I configure ubuntu server so that it runs an app when the power button is pressed (ACPI enabled)?
[09:55] <lukaswayne9> ezerhoden: I've also got an old laptop that I can't even install ubuntu-minimal on.  Is there a live disk I can run on that that's only command-line?  The only app I really require is telnet
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> are there any cli editors that use the standard gui text editor hotkey for things like undo, redo, selecting text holding the shift key & using the cursor & that sort of stuff?
[09:55] <lupine_85> ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 192.168.2.1 dev <interface>
[09:55] <lupine_85> and stick it in /etc/rc.local
[09:55] <anon32> lukaswayne9, try a different distro/
[09:55] <tritium> TheGateKeeper: none that I've heard of
[09:56] <anon32> perhaps DSL or slackware
[09:56] <lukaswayne9> anon32: right, i'm just asking for a suggestion
[09:56] <lukaswayne9> anon32: alright
[09:56] <JDahl> TheGateKeeper: jed is fairly intuitive
[09:56] <tritium> lukaswayne9: why can't you install?  Have you tried an alternate intsall (text-mode only) install image?
[09:56] <killown> I not found alsaconf  where I find it , I have alsa-base installed
[09:56] <tritium> intsall, rather
[09:56] <tritium> killown: it's not included
[09:56] <tritium> !sound
[09:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:56] <lukaswayne9> tritium: yeah, I get a bunch of weird errors.  it's in low memory mode for sub 64mb systems
[09:56] <scompany> Do I stick it before of after exit 0
[09:57] <tritium> lukaswayne9: ouch
[09:57] <trappist> killown: you *could* apt-get source alsa-utils (or is it alsa-tools) and get it from there
[09:57] <killown> tritium but , I need to install driver to my card sound
[09:57] <IcemanV9> is Xen better than VMware player or server OR kemu?? Xen is not in repos?
[09:57] <islan> never heard of Xen
[09:57] <tritium> !xen
[09:57] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:57] <trappist> IcemanV9: it's not better or worse.  it's a different solution.
[09:58] <gandolftheiwzar1> jrib: this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27541/
[09:58] <snooplsm> i don't know where I installed sun's java 1.5 is ther eanyway I can figure this out?
[09:58] <trappist> IcemanV9: whether it's better or worse for you depends a lot on what you have in mind
[09:58] <zach> !xen
[09:59] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: weird, i've never seen that
[09:59] <islan> is there a free linux 1.5 Java compiler yet?
[09:59] <killown> I cannot enter in my partition windows ntfs its say you cannot permission   what I do?
[09:59] <gandolftheiwzar1> me either i have no clue whats going on
[09:59] <gandolftheiwzar1> th
[09:59] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i use vmware and it is great, i recommend it, never tried the others
[09:59] <IcemanV9> read that Xen will give "close to native" performance. i assumed it may be better than kqemu or vmware.
[09:59] <tritium> !java > islan
[09:59] <LjL> islan, that matter is offtopic for this channel though... #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about that ;-)
[09:59] <gandolftheiwzar1> this happened after i installed java 5
[09:59] <LjL> islan, gcj is a free java compiler, part of the GNU compiler project
[10:00] <gnomefreak> islan: sun-java5-plugins
[10:00] <snooplsm> gcj sucks
[10:00] <islan> google failed me the last time I tried to look for one
[10:00] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: idk, I hope someone else can help you out.  I'm not sure what that error means
[10:00] <gnomefreak> or jdk
[10:00] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: i use kqemu. it is not bad. i guess i am looking for a better performance.
[10:00] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i can run windows xp :( (sorry) with 396 megs ram assisned to it and it runs at native speed that i can tell
[10:00] <mjr> IcemanV9, the close to native performance is available for xen-aware operating systems (though xen can do unaware too with the new virtualizing processors from intel and amd)
[10:00] <bayzider> is ubuntu compatable with any portable dvd/dvd are burner?
[10:00] <snooplsm> so guys I don' tknow where I installed java compiler, any hints?
[10:00] <exhale> does anyone have any experience on getting the sidebuttons on the intellimouse optical to work in ubuntu? i tried the howto at the forum but it didnt work
[10:00] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: vmware player or server?
[10:01] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: server
[10:01] <gnomefreak> snooplsm: what are you trying to do
[10:01] <jelly> is there a mplayer build for 6.06?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> jelly: yes
[10:01] <islan> wait, the question is, is this 1.5 Java or 1.4?
[10:01] <jrib> ubotu: tell jelly about multiverse
[10:01] <anon32> jelly, yea..
[10:01] <gandolftheiwzar1> me either i am new to linux so i am clue less but i really need the plugin so i can get into my classes
[10:01] <jrib> jelly: just enable multiverse
[10:01] <IcemanV9> ok. thanks guys for the information on xen, vmware or kqemu. :)
[10:01] <killown> when I access my partition windows ntfs its say you cannot permission why?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> islan: the one i said is 5
[10:01] <islan> sweet
[10:01] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i use it everday and it is stable and fast
[10:01] <jrib> gandolftheiwzar1: well we can get you the plugin, but I don't know about that error you are getting with java
[10:02] <scompany> Thank you lupine_85.....
[10:02] <snooplsm> I can type javac and that works, how can I determine its link though?
[10:02] <gandolftheiwzar1> me either
[10:02] <gnomefreak> snooplsm: locate javac?
[10:02] <snooplsm> thanks
[10:02] <gandolftheiwzar1> yeah but if java is not working than i can't get into the virtual class so i am screwed either way i gues lol
[10:03] <killown> please
[10:03] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: i tried to install winxp via kqemu and it failed due to the hardware is not recongizied as hp laptop (even it IS hp)
[10:04] <IcemanV9> ezerhoden: guess i will try vmware server to see if it works
[10:05] <ezerhoden> IcemanV9: i had the same issue with my ibm windows disks, there are ways around it, none legal that I know of though
[10:05] <gandolftheiwzar1> so what do i need to do to install the flas plug in
[10:05] <nn> I just hot-plugged a drive into my machine.. how do i rescan scsi devices?
[10:05] <gandolftheiwzar1> brb
[10:05] <nn> wanna add it to the LVM VG w/o rebooting, possible?
[10:05] <sevenood> hi all
[10:05] <nn> :(
[10:06] <gandolftheiwzar1> ok i am back
[10:07] <killown> please How I do to set permission for local users?
[10:07] <killown> please How I do to set permission for local users in ntfs partition?
[10:07] <jelly> jrib: thanks, dunno how I missed that.
[10:07] <gandolftheiwzar1> ok jirb: now what do i do
[10:07] <anon32> killown, by not repeating
[10:07] <gandolftheiwzar1> i went to the help page for ubuntu and i get the samethig that i got for java so i am kinda stuck i guess
[10:08] <LjL> !ntfs > killown
[10:09] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, what are you trying to achieve?
[10:09] <gandolftheiwzar1> i hope i don't have to reinstall everythin again
[10:09] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, this it not windows
[10:10] <gandolftheiwzar1> no kidding i know that
[10:10] <gandolftheiwzar1> but i am starting to like this linux
[10:10] <winsux> Hi there! anyone who know how to fix this TFTP err: Oct 20 21:57:06 multimedia atftpd[11430.-1210726736] : atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp
[10:10] <abyss> anyone can help me ive installed apache,php4,mysql-server but the apache cant read php files
[10:10] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, so what's the problem?
[10:11] <gandolftheiwzar1> but i need the flash and java plug-ins for firefox so that i can get into my online classes
[10:11] <LjL> !lamp > abyss
[10:11] <abyss> if i open one the browser offers me to download the phpfile
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> gandolftheiwzar1, they are in multiverse
[10:11] <abyss> !lamp
[10:11] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:11] <bun-bun> !easyubuntu > gandolftheiwzar1
[10:11] <gandolftheiwzar1> this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27541/ go here and see the errors that i am getting
[10:11] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, are you using an amd64 version or "normal" pc?
[10:11] <gandolftheiwzar1> i guess normal
[10:12] <killown> thanks all
[10:13] <fbc> How can I view wmv's?
[10:14] <gandolftheiwzar1> its what ever i got on the cd when i ordered it
[10:14] <bun-bun> !restricted formats >fbc
[10:14] <emmettshear> Hi! I'm trying to install the drivers for a USB camera (available at http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/), but following the directions supplied I've hit a dead end. When I try to make the module, it tries "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/justintv/Desktop/pwc-10.0.11 modules" and then says ..../build doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[10:14] <nn> how do i hold back a package (lvm2) what breaks while upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[10:14] <gandolftheiwzar1> well i mean sent for it
[10:14] <Gropi> gandolftheiwzar1, device 144 would be ADSL I guess. Are you using ADSL?
[10:14] <emmettshear> I've done apt-get install linux-source, but that doesn't seem to help
[10:15] <gandolftheiwzar1> no
[10:15] <gandolftheiwzar1> i just have an compaq presario 1278
[10:15] <gandolftheiwzar1> laptop
[10:17] <chowsapal> i'm getting freq=0 when i try to use wpa_supplicant with this wireless card...
[10:17] <chowsapal> any idea how to fix that?
[10:19] <tiredbones__> My daughter is taken aa french class and has to listen to the pronunciation. what package should I install for this? I have creative hard ware.
[10:19] <nn> tiredbones__: What kind of format is it?
[10:19] <tiredbones__> nn, It looks likw wav
[10:19] <emmettshear> can anyone help me with the camera driver problem?
[10:20] <g333k_work> how can I see the list of users of my pc?
[10:20] <Gropi> tiredbones__,  rhythmbox or xmms?
[10:21] <Gropi> g333k_work, try "last" or "who"
[10:21] <Gropi> g333k_work, or do you mean all possible users?
[10:21] <nn> tiredbones__: audacity works well
[10:21] <nn> tiredbones__: even xmms
[10:21] <g333k_work> Gropi, yeah all existent users
[10:22] <tiredbones__> Gropi, of the two which one would you pick?
[10:22] <Gropi> g333k_work,  "cat /etc/passwd"
[10:22] <Gropi> tiredbones__, xmms is "easier" for me, getting used to rythmbox
[10:22] <RMorris84> does anyone else have a problem with flash 9 where any flash video or song just stops like 5 secs after it stops
[10:22] <tiredbones__> nn, it sounds like you would pick audacity.
[10:23] <Gropi> tiredbones__, if one is installed and the othes isn't use the one installed
[10:23] <nn> tiredbones__: Audacity is a sound editor, which more suites what i do, which is why i use it :)
[10:23] <tiredbones__> Gropi, nothing is insatalled yet.
[10:24] <nn> How to hold back a specific package when upgrading?
[10:24] <nn> Explode for lvm2 upgrade :\
[10:24] <Gropi> nn, wasn't there something like "pin" a package?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> !pinning
[10:25] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[10:25] <nn> Gropi: Im not sure, it's been a while, just need to tell apt to hold back lvm2 pkg until i reboot
[10:25] <gnomefreak> nn: ^^ see above
[10:25] <Gropi> !solvem<problem :-)
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about solvem<problem :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <fdoving> nn: echo packagename hold|dpkg --set-selections
[10:26] <nn> Ahh
[10:26] <nn> fdoving: Thanks
[10:27] <svinto> are there someone more than me who's got problems starting with the live CD under a radeon X850xt
[10:27] <fdoving> nn: that would need to be in a root-shell. (sudo -i)
[10:27] <svinto> when I search the net there seems to be lots of people having trouble with this
[10:28] <svinto> including me
[10:28] <nn> fdoving: Yea, i got that :)
[10:28] <svinto> :)
[10:28] <nn> fdoving: Had to install from a hoary disk, upgrade to breezy then dapper (using a server install) and now getting everything up-to-date and installing my stuff i want
[10:29] <gdh> ... just a straw poll - anyone with a low end Radeon card (X300/X600) tried the RC live cd?
[10:29] <utnubu>  what would cause ubuntu dapper drake to freeze up then after restarting it fails to setup xserver sockets and freezes when it trys to load boot scripts?
[10:29] <tiredbones__> Gropi,  I just read a small section on rhythmbox and it sound like my will have to save individuals wav file to here each word's pronunciation. Is this correct?
[10:30] <nn> I gotta reboot since linux is too stupid to support my SCSI hotswap :(
[10:30] <Gropi> tiredbones__, I thought you already have the wav files and want to replay them?
[10:31] <svinto> ate there any known conflicts between x850 xt and the amd 64?
[10:31] <svinto> in x
[10:31] <blackmamba23> how do i use effects in gnome?
[10:31] <tiredbones__> Gropi, no we go to a web site and click on the word.
[10:31] <Gropi> tiredbones__, do you want to record the words first?
[10:31] <blackmamba23> like fade menu effects
[10:31] <blackmamba23> and shadows
[10:31] <anon32> gah, say, can someone explain what's different in the modified cdrecord (ubuntu version)?
[10:31] <tiredbones__> Gropi, no we go to a web site and click on the word.
[10:31] <t0mz> hi
[10:32] <tiredbones__> Gropi, no we go to a web site and click on the word. and then hear the pronunciation
[10:32] <Gropi> tiredbones__, it could be that you need to save them. Then it might be possible to tell your browser to download and play wav files automatically.
[10:33] <killown> I get error tcl-interface.c:4:17: error: tcl.h: No such file or directory When I try to compile  what I have to install?
[10:33] <killown> I yet installed tcl8-dev
[10:34] <anon32> can someone tell me what's been changed in the ubuntu version of cdrecord?
[10:34] <mart_> hi, how do i found out the address of my sound card
[10:35] <mart_> looks like /dev/dsp
[10:35] <mart_> i have an on board one, and an audigy 4
[10:35] <mart_> teamspeak seems to be just set on the in built one
[10:35] <blackmamba23> anyone????
[10:36] <Gropi> anon32, perhaps the DVD size limit is removed?
[10:37] <tristanmike> what's the command to "purge" when removing in apt-get "sudo apt-get remove package --purge"  or  "sudo apt-get remove --purge package" ?
[10:37] <anon32> hmm, I just know that it keeps crashing in DAO/SAO mode
[10:38] <ompaul> mart_, have you disabled the onboard one?
[10:38] <mart_> no
[10:38] <mart_> its kinda wierd
[10:38] <mart_> I cannot play a game and use teamspeak
[10:38] <ompaul> mart_, well let me suggest to you do to so
[10:38] <mart_> as teamspeak takes over the sound
[10:39] <mart_> right... how do i do that?
[10:39] <mart_> easy enough to tell me?
[10:39] <mart_> jst googling now
[10:39] <ompaul> mart_, in your bios - as the machine boots press F12 or F2 or delete as instructed - then you choose the onboard sound from whate3ver bios menu it is in and work from there
[10:40] <mart_> ahhh
[10:40] <mart_> :P
[10:40] <ompaul> mart_, it is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:40] <mart_> lol i was trying to think of a way in ubuntu :P
[10:40] <mart_> yep... should have thought of that
[10:40] <mart_> many thanks
[10:41] <killown> How I do to install tcl?
[10:41] <emmettshear> Hey, I'm having a lot of trouble installing a driver for my usb camera
[10:41] <emmettshear> can anyone help me with that?
[10:42] <rockzman> could anyone help me ? i have  prism intersil usb wireless adapter and it is not working what could i do?
[10:42] <Die> mike@mike:~$ makedvd -burn /tmp/Star_Trek_Season_1
[10:42] <Die> --------------------------------
[10:42] <Die> makedvd
[10:42] <Die> A script to create a DVD-Video file structure and burn it to DVD
[10:42] <Die> Part of the tovid suite, version 0.28
[10:42] <Die> with: core magick dvd vcd transcode
[10:42] <Die> http://www.tovid.org
[10:42] <Die> --------------------------------
[10:42] <Die> [10:42] <killown> tcl-interface.c:4:17: error: tcl.h: No such file or directory why?
[10:43] <rockzman> could anyone help me ? i have  prism intersil usb wireless adapter and it is not working what could i do?
[10:43] <ompaul> Die, multiple line outpuits should go in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:43] <MystaMax> hello, how are gdm themes installed?
[10:43] <emmettshear> specifically, it seems like it's looking in the wrong place for the kernel source when I tell it to do make, should I just point it at the unzipped version in /usr/src?
[10:44] <rockzman> ompaul my usb adapter is even loading wlan0 interface but i cant even set an essid on it why do i cant?
[10:44] <killown> please
[10:44] <killown> can anyone help me
[10:44] <ompaul> !AK
[10:44] <ompaul> !ask
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:44] <killown> tcl-interface.c:4:17: error: tcl.h: No such file or directory why?
[10:45] <killown> when I try to compile megahal return it
[10:45] <ompaul> killown, have you installing it using synaptic?
[10:45] <killown> ompaul nope
[10:46] <nn> so.. in ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12 supports my megaraid in my dell poweredge 2300, but 2.6.15 it breaks.. Hmm
[10:46] <ompaul> killown, that is the normal way to keep your machine in sync with the ubuntu patches and so on
[10:46] <killown> ok
[10:46] <nn> Ideas? :)
[10:47] <tiredbones__> Gropi, When I click on the word to hear the pronunciation of the word, I'm told that totem is not installed. Do I need this with rymthmbox?
[10:47] <rockzman> could anyone help me ? i have  prism intersil usb wireless adapter and it is not working what could i do?
[10:48] <holysmoke> greetings
[10:48] <Vaporlze> hello
[10:48] <mike> hey, i'm building c apps... i had to install build-essential to do that... what do i install to get the x libraries?
[10:48] <holysmoke> vaporize !
[10:49] <Vuen> hey guys, how come vi doesn't work in screen?
[10:49] <holysmoke> can anyone give me any help installing a 3DFuzion GeForce FX 5500 video card ? I'm in dapper
[10:49] <andy> how do you mount a network folder using 'smbfs'?
[10:49] <ompaul> nn, I have an 1800 running it (I have yet to tackle the 2300 (many more users)) but using stock kernels I installed "bum" and knocked off a few of the start up packages like powermanagment but the raid I left to the hardware
[10:50] <mike> is there a package i need to install to get the X11 libraries for c programming?
[10:50] <ompaul> !repeat > rockzman
[10:50] <nn> ompaul: It's working fine on my machine except for the new kernel gets weird device errors
[10:50] <Vaporlze> can someone help me? i am right know on ubuntu and wanna switch to xubuntu, but i just got 100MB left, and when i try to apt-get install xubuntu it says it needs, 230MB, so i was wondering, if i could go to a terminal, and first uninstall ubuntu, then install xubuntu...?
[10:50] <rockzman> ompaul my usb adapter is even loading wlan0 interface but i cant even set an essid on it why do i cant?
[10:50] <nn> i originally thought it was bad drives, as the entire machine was donated recently to my project
[10:51] <holysmoke> I guess my question is , what drivers does the geForce card use ?
[10:51] <ompaul> rockzman, why do you assume I know the answer to this? I don't do wireless at all
[10:51] <Vuen> hey guys, how come vi doesn't work in screen?
[10:51] <ompaul> Vaporlze, that might break more than it fixes
[10:52] <rockzman> ompaul ah ok i just wondered you would know by ur helpin work
[10:52] <rockzman> anyway thank you
[10:52] <scrub18m> how can i start gdm from command line ?
[10:52] <Vaporlze> oh...lol.....so what do u suggest? i wanna switch to xubuntu..
[10:52] <ompaul> rockzman, thems the breaks, unfortunately
[10:52] <Vuen> scrub18m: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:53] <ompaul> scrub18m, what Vuen said :)
[10:53] <Vaporlze> Vuen what do u mean with 'in screen?' have you tried gvim?
[10:53] <scrub18m> beryl ruined my dapper :/
[10:53] <Vuen> Vaporlze: screen is a software for windowing terminals
[10:53] <Vaporlze> oh...
[10:53] <ompaul> scrub18m, you need to go to #ubuntu-xgl that is not supported software
[10:54] <scrub18m> yeah but they are silent :(
[10:54] <JsonT_> people are telling me that I need something something "universe" to install some stuff, how to do?
[10:54] <ompaul> scrub18m, maybe you need to wait there, because in this channel we only do supported stuff
[10:54] <cablesm102> I just tried the Edgy RC Live disk, and it wouldn't recognize my D-Link (atheros) wi-fi card. Dapper recognized it immediately.
[10:54] <ompaul> !easysource > JsonT_
[10:55] <Vuen> cablesm102: that's wierd. try installing linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:55] <ompaul> JsonT_, please check the message from ubotu
[10:55] <mart_> thanks for the help on the soundcard, works now
[10:55] <cablesm102> it's installed
[10:55] <Vuen> cablesm102: hmm, that's really strange
[10:55] <mart_> only issue is i get a sh*t load of echo when i speak into the mic
[10:55] <cablesm102> Should I file a bug report maybe?
[10:55] <cablesm102> sorta late
[10:55] <mart_> anyone ever heard of that before?
[10:56] <ompaul> mart_, turn down the mic
[10:56] <mart_> tried that
[10:56] <cablesm102> mart, what it's doing is playing back whats in the mic.
[10:56] <tristanmike> hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia hotfix right now, and I'm getting a "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel. Would you like to download one from nvidia ftp" what does this mean ?
[10:56] <mart_> cablesm102: yes
[10:56] <mart_> but over and over
[10:56] <cablesm102> that's strange
[10:56] <mart_> when i turn the mic down its too low to pick up my voice
[10:56] <mart_> random
[10:56] <nn> mart_: try muting my mic in mixer
[10:57] <ompaul> mart_, got speakers?
[10:57] <nn> or if it shows a "monitor" channel
[10:57] <mart_> ompaul: yep
[10:57] <emmettshear> so, can anyone in here help me with my usb webcam driver? I have details if anyone can help...
[10:57] <ompaul> mart_, make sure they are turned off
[10:57] <mart_> no monitor channel
[10:57] <Outerlimit> !ext3
[10:57] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:57] <mart_> i need those on :P
[10:57] <anon32> !xfs
[10:58] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 180 kB
[10:58] <ompaul>  webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:58] <mart_> to hear what the other person says
[10:58] <ompaul> mart_, speaking echo usually originates at the far end
[10:59] <ompaul> !nickspam
[10:59] <ubotu> changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[10:59] <mart_> even covering the mic causes echo
[10:59] <emmettshear> ompaul: thanks a lot
[10:59] <Vaporlze> is there a way to switch from ubuntu to xubuntu without haveing to install my whole system?
[10:59] <DBO> /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit  <--- anyone seen a boot freeze on that (whole thing just freezes)
[10:59] <Killallhumans> hello
[10:59] <mart_> hmm, also its echoing with a delay.
[11:00] <Linuturk> I'm going to be installing a OEM system soon. Will all the configurations I do (wireless, FF bookmarks, and other settings) stick after I set the machine for the oem boot?
[11:00] <anon32> huh, is there a factoid for xfs (the file system)?
[11:00] <anon32> !fs
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Killallhumans> does anyone here know how to burn dual layer DVD with Tovid??
[11:00] <mart_> whistled down the mic, and it delays by about 10 seconds
[11:00] <ompaul> Vaporlze, you need more room and the disk
[11:00] <anon32> !XFS
[11:00] <anon32> gah..
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Linuturk> !oem
[11:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:01] <Killallhumans> anyone?
[11:01] <ompaul> mart_, your lag is a quality of services issue nothing to do with ubuntu tbh
[11:01] <mart_> as in, the mic is crap?
[11:01] <Vaporlze> okay, i could remove some packages, but after i run xubuntu, can i remove ubuntu (gnome) and install the packages again, i removed ealier?
[11:02] <anon32> Vaporlze, ?
[11:02] <anon32> if you have xubuntu, you shouldn't have gnome installed at all
[11:02] <Killallhumans> NOBODY ??
[11:02] <Killallhumans> cmon...
[11:02] <Vaporlze> right now i am in ubuntu with gnome
[11:02] <Vaporlze> and i wanna switch to xubuntu
[11:02] <Killallhumans> how about making an ISo then?
[11:02] <Vaporlze> but i dont have enough disk space
[11:03] <tuxub> hello
[11:03] <Killallhumans> oi
[11:03] <segfault_> Vaporlze, just install xubuntu-desktop why remove anything?
[11:03] <ompaul> Vaporlze, get a bigger drive you can't get from where you are to where you want to get to without the room
[11:03] <tristanmike> hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia hotfix right now, and I'm getting a "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel. Would you like to download one from nvidia ftp" can anyone tell me what this means please ?
[11:03] <Killallhumans> tuxub, you know anything about dual layer burning?
[11:03] <Vaporlze> haha....but i'm on a laptop....
[11:03] <tuxub> nope, sorry
[11:03] <Killallhumans> ty anyway
[11:04] <Killallhumans> tristanmike...
[11:04] <GhostFreeman> !sshd
[11:04] <anon32> Vaporlze, oh, in that case, you can purge GNOME right after installing Xubuntu
[11:04] <ompaul> Killallhumans, I was ignoring you avoiding my mute - you are now annoying wait 10 if you get an answer fine if not - repat then
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <tRSS> I want to ssh a remote machine without entering a password. ihave to setup some ssh keys, right? how do I do that?
[11:04] <Killallhumans> it's asking you if you want to download the files you need from the NVIDIA website
[11:04] <Vaporlze> how do i purge GNOME?
[11:04] <anon32> Vaporlze, hunt down all the packages and remove em
[11:04] <[H] 3b0R> whats the best tool for clocking an nvidia graphics card?
[11:04] <Killallhumans> A simple NO would suffice......
[11:04] <atlef> !dvd9
[11:04] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: but should I have those files installed through ubuntu ?
[11:05] <Vaporlze> ok....so that's all starting with gnome-?
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Killallhumans> Ignoring me is unproductive
[11:05] <ompaul> Killallhumans, there couild be 800+ nos but we don't do that this is irc
[11:05] <anon32> Vaporlze, also, libgtk-etc
[11:05] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: and should I even download them at all ?
[11:05] <anon32> and a bunch of others
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> How do I start up sshd so I can allow a friend to check my system?
[11:05] <tuxub> i am trying to migrate my dapper to edgy via sudo update-manager -c -d but the update stops with the error: "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'". is this normal?
[11:05] <anon32> you need to read the dependency list for "ubuntu-desktop"
[11:06] <Vaporlze> alright.....i'm a noob...where do i find it?...:)
[11:06] <tuxub> anon32, read where?
[11:06] <ompaul> !noob
[11:06] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:06] <Killallhumans> 800+ nos
[11:06] <anon32> tuxub, not you
[11:06] <Killallhumans> ??
[11:06] <iks> Hey all :)
[11:06] <iks> I've got a quick question
[11:06] <anon32> what's jfgi?
[11:06] <nityann0> for some reason, the fans on my mobo are always running at full. this is probably because the mobo drivers are not installed. i have a SONY VAIO PCV-RX550.
[11:07] <tuxub> anon32, you mentioned ubuntu-desktop, which is my error :)
[11:07] <ompaul> anon32,  just "find" and google it
[11:07] <anon32> tuxub, sorry
[11:07] <Linuturk> I've got a question about the OEM install. What settings will be saved when I prepare it for First Boot?
[11:07] <Linuturk> I'm going to be configuring the video drivers, the sound drivers, the network drivers
[11:07] <emmettshear> ompaul: EasyCam didn't work, unfortunately
[11:08] <anon32> ompaul, and what's wrong with that?
[11:08] <tuxub> has anyone used the update-manager to upgrade dapper to edgy?
[11:08] <emmettshear> but there are definitely drivers available (at http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/)
[11:08] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: i don't really remember... what are th options?
[11:08] <ompaul> anon32, we give urls don't tell people to google it
[11:08] <Linuturk> will they be saved?
[11:08] <iks> I'd like to run an Apache Server. So I installed XAMPP. But part of the files' owner is iks (me) and part of its is nobody. In fact the Root's mine and the /phpmyadmin is nobody's. How can I make this work without running the server under root or changing all the file's owner ?
[11:08] <nityann0> for some reason, the fans on my mobo are always running at full. this is probably because the mobo drivers are not installed. i have a SONY VAIO PCV-RX550. Any help??
[11:08] <ompaul> tuxub, I did on my lappy - go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy help please
[11:08] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: what do you mean ? Yes and No
[11:09] <anon32> ompaul, it'll save them time
[11:09] <tuxub> ompaul, thanks
[11:09] <Corporal_Dirge> For some reason, the default web browser changed without my changing it. It's Mozilla instead of Firefox.
[11:09] <Killallhumans> yes then.
[11:09] <ompaul> anon32, we don't do it - as the bot said .. period
[11:09] <anon32> wtf, the translation files for gnome take up less space then their download (according to synaptic)?
[11:09] <Killallhumans> I thought you were on the site already
[11:09] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: I guess I'm saying that if ubuntu has a stock kernel interface thingy, shouldn't I use that one ?
[11:09] <ompaul> !lamp > iks
[11:09] <Flannel> Linuturk: they'll all be.
[11:09] <Killallhumans> NO
[11:10] <Killallhumans> it sucks
[11:10] <ompaul> iks, please reas the stuff from the bot
[11:10] <braddcadd2000> Anyone able to help get my svnclient working?
[11:10] <Killallhumans> you want the updated NVIDIA one
[11:10] <[H] 3b0R> whats the best tool for clocking an nvidia graphics card?
[11:10] <ompaul> Killallhumans, stop hitting enter after one or two words, please collect your thoughts and put them on one line thanks
[11:10] <Linuturk> Flannel, what about settings to FF, flash, and all that stuff?
[11:10] <nityann0> How can i get my motherboard drivers installed??
[11:10] <Flannel> Linuturk: actually, if you have user specific scripts, I'm not sure they'll be saved, actually.
[11:10] <nityann0> please help
[11:10] <Flannel> Linuturk: but, all the OEM thing does is make a new user, so everything you've installed etc will remain
[11:11] <anon32> !best
[11:11] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:11] <Linuturk> Flannel, yes, what about the configurations to the repositories? and, all the configs that go to the ~ dir will be lost?
[11:11] <inimesekene> how can i get themes for beryl
[11:11] <inimesekene> _
[11:11] <inimesekene> "
[11:11] <inimesekene> ?
[11:11] <Flannel> Linuturk: FF settings get stored in the users home directory by default, You'll want to change those to global configs if you want them for all the users
[11:11] <Killallhumans> Tristanmike: what did it do?
[11:11] <Flannel> Linuturk: sources.list is a global config, it won't be touched
[11:11] <nityann0> How can i get my mobo drivers installed?????
[11:11] <anon32> !spam
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <Linuturk> Flannel, thanks
[11:11] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: I'm sorry, what did what do ?
[11:11] <Flannel> inimesekene: try #beryl
[11:11] <nityann0> for some reason, the fans on my mobo are always running at full. this is probably because the mobo drivers are not installed. i have a SONY VAIO PCV-RX550.
[11:12] <nityann0> how do i get mobo drivers???
[11:12] <rsk> you dont
[11:12] <Killallhumans> When the program asked you if you wanted to download the stuff from NVIDIA's site and you clicked "yes"... what dit it do?
[11:12] <liquidboy> what command can i put in the windowmaker menu to directly shut down the computer. iv'e tried the shutdown -h now option, but nothing happens...
[11:12] <rsk> halt?
[11:13] <narayana> how can i compile a module for another kernel?
[11:13] <Tampler> maybe sudo shutdown now -h
[11:13] <Tampler> now is before -h
[11:13] <Tampler> I think
[11:13] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: oh, I haven't done it yet, just gathering somemore info
[11:13] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: Look at your windowmaker menu file, I believe you can do "exec sudo shutdown -h now" or some such.
[11:13] <narayana> isn't shutdown -h now
[11:14] <ianmacgregor> Tampler: now is after the -h
[11:14] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: My bad, since windowmaker is gui, you'll probably need gksudo instead of sudo
[11:15] <liquidboy> yeah
[11:15] <Flannel> no, you won't.  Since you're running the shutdown command
[11:15] <cablesm102> I just tried the Edgy RC LiveCD. It isn't detecting my atheros wi-fi card. The Dapper disk did this right out of the box. Does anybody know how I can get this to work ?
[11:15] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: How will the user be able to put in a password?
[11:16] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: It's from a menu item
[11:16] <liquidboy> ianmacgregor, i had that in my menu file
[11:16] <Flannel> Oh, you're making a menu item? yeah, you'll need to then
[11:16] <liquidboy> doesn't do anything :(
[11:16] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> cablesm102, pray?
[11:16] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: :(
[11:16] <cablesm102> Thanks, I think
[11:16] <liquidboy> it will work from the terminal tho
[11:16] <liquidboy> and yep i tried gksudo
[11:16] <GhostFreeman> How would I setup an account so I could have a friend SSH into my system? Anybody know?
[11:16] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: you many need to find the specific FTP for the VNIDIA website. Then you can add it to the list and download the drivers you need with no problems.
[11:16] <braddcadd2000> svn error:  "svn: PROPFIND request failed"  (any help?)
[11:17] <gop> hey
[11:17] <abalcho> hello
[11:17] <gop> if I installing on a third physicall drive ubuntu linux
[11:17] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: make him a user on your box
[11:17] <gop> do i need to repartion my two other physical drivers
[11:17] <roshan_s> GhostFreeman: System > Administration > Users and Groups should do the trick
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> did that, but he can't log in
[11:17] <abalcho> uffff you only speak english in this channel
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> got openssh-server installed but he's getting timeout errors
[11:18] <t0mz> hey, somebody know how to clone a disk that runs UNIX?
[11:18] <gop> I got a 120 gig and 80 gig which I am using 120 gig has windows 80 gig extra storage and I just have a 60 gig laying around
[11:18] <tristanmike> Killallhumans: I've stoped gdm and I'm working strickly from command line
[11:18] <tristanmike> lupine_85: are you available for a second ?
[11:18] <ChaosFan> abalcho: there are extra channels for nearly any other language
[11:18] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: You might be interested in partimage
[11:18] <Killallhumans> does anyone other than ompaul know anything about burning dual layer DVD's with TOVID?
[11:18] <joona> GhostFreeman: then he's not using ssh or you are behind firewall
[11:18] <gop> if I install ubuntu on the 60 gig drive
[11:18] <abalcho> thank  you chaos
[11:18] <GhostFreeman> yeah I am behind a firewall, guess its all on my own now
[11:19] <gop> do I need to touch the other two
[11:19] <exhale-> is flash supported for x64?
[11:19] <gop> drivers
[11:19] <gop> hard disk
[11:19] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: i dont know, but i need to clone a disk running unix, partimage is booteable?
[11:19] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: or you don't have a ssh server installed
[11:19] <anon32> exhale-, no
[11:19] <morghanphoenix> how do I fix and external drive that's mounting as read only even though it's in mount as rw?
[11:19] <joona> he just said he has :)
[11:19] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: Lemme get you a link, hold on..
[11:19] <GhostFreeman> I installed it, I just think I need to open a port on my firewall
[11:19] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: I don't quite remember the command lines but here is a good site that will tell you all about it...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936
[11:19] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: thanxs
[11:19] <joona> GhostFreeman: which firewall?
[11:20] <joona> are you just running plain iptables?
[11:20] <joona> or are you behind NAT of some sort?
[11:20] <lupine_85> tristanmike: more or less, yes
[11:20] <lupine_85> 'sup?
[11:20] <Killallhumans> Tristanmike: OOPS sorry wrong one.... hold on.
[11:20] <GhostFreeman> Router based, D-Link DI-524
[11:20] <joona> ok, you can route ports from D-links setup
[11:20] <qwe1> Hi all, I am looking for a Programm like Smart Draw under Windows. So far I found Kivio. It is nice, but I need more Symbols (folders, files, ...). Can you help me?
[11:20] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:21] <joona> GhostFreeman: you'll need to forward port 22 to your internal network ip from D-link
[11:21] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: I use this livecd, it has lots of great tools on it, including partimage. I recommend it to anyone: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=systemrescue
[11:21] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: what are you trying to do when you get that error?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:21] <tristanmike> I'm finally getting to installing that update and it's saying "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel. Would you like to download one from nvidia ftp" what do you think I should do ?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> I can find my system's IP from ifconfig, right?
[11:21] <joona> yeah
[11:21] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ^^^^^
[11:21] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: ok, let me try, 10x a lot
[11:21] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: are you on a LAN?
[11:21] <GhostFreeman> yes
[11:22] <Killallhumans> tristanmike: This website has almost everything you need to know about basic UBUNTU stuff
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> A lan of one computer.
[11:22] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: You're welcome :)
[11:22] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: trying to connect to the svn server
[11:22] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: are you behind a router
[11:22] <GhostFreeman> yes
[11:22] <joona> Flannel: already sorted that out
[11:22] <ianmacgregor> t0mz: MEPIS also has partimage, if you have a copy of that.
[11:22] <joona> GhostFreeman: just forward the port :)
[11:23] <joona> GhostFreeman: that's the solution, and only choice
[11:23] <braddcadd2000> Flannel:  svn checkout https://mysvnserver/bla/bla
[11:23] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: then your IP won't be on ifconfig, that'll be your subnet's IP, you'll need your external/routers IP
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> ah
[11:23] <lupine_85> tristanmike: you need to compile one - it's easy
[11:23] <joona> GhostFreeman: he's right, but you'll need to forward that port first
[11:23] <tristanmike> lupine_85: oh crap
[11:23] <lupine_85> the installer does all the hard work for you, you just need the build-essential package installed and the appropriate linux-headers
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> I am aware, i've done this before on a local network with a laptop
[11:24] <lupine_85> so... sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:24] <lupine_85> then re-run the installer
[11:24] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ok, so I should just download it? cause I have build-essential and the headers, (which we did earlier)
[11:24] <ianmacgregor> liquidboy: Ca I pm you?
[11:24] <tristanmike> lupine_85: or just say "NO" ?
[11:25] <theCore> *shameless announcement* I am giving a quiz in #ubuntu-trivia, and everyone is invited. So, come in to prove how mucho puissante your brain's cells are. :) *end of the shameless announcement*
[11:25] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: you can get your external IP at ... well,lots of places, one is "whatismyip.com"
[11:25] <eXistenZ> any better .chm viewer than xchm?
[11:25] <tristanmike> lupine_85: and let the installer do it, is that what you mean ?
[11:25] <GhostFreeman> yeah I got it here
[11:25] <lupine_85> tristanmike: there are none suitable on the nvidia website
[11:25] <lupine_85> you can let it search or not... it doesn't matter
[11:25] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:25] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: and does https://mysvnserver/bla/bla come up with the correct file/etc?
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> Can I have someone who uses the WindowMaker wm pm me please?
[11:26] <GhostFreeman> once I have it, what should I do next
[11:26] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:26] <theCore> hello rob!
[11:26] <rawrness> do what you want because a pirate is free you are pirate yar har being a pirate is ok to be you are a pirate
[11:26] <tristanmike> lupine_85: right, so just say no to that question and see if the installer does the work for me ? or should I run the updated file with an option
[11:26] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: #windowmaker might be of some assistance
[11:26] <rob> theCore: please don't do that
[11:26] <lupine_85> tristanmike: I always let it search, because I dn't like saying no :)
[11:26] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: Ah, yeah, I was hoping to speak with an Ubuntu user who installed wm from the repos
[11:27] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: well, the wm from the repos will be identical to the stock wm, since it's in universe
[11:27] <tristanmike> lupine_85: what is this "precompiled kernel interface" ?
[11:27] <theCore> okay, sorry rob
[11:27] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: Oh? Ok, didn't know that. Thanks for the help :)
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> Flannel: I got my IP. What now?
[11:27] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: no I can't see the files, although it does ask me login, and I know I am logging in correctly :)
[11:27] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: he'll connect via your external IP, which will be forwarded to your computer by the router
[11:27] <lupine_85> tristanmike: a kernel module
[11:27] <darkaura> Hi guys I have a problem with games not scaling to full screen I have a GeForce Go 6800 Ultra any suggestinos?
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> ok
[11:27] <lupine_85> if it can't find one, it'll build one for you
[11:27] <GhostFreeman> we tried this a while back, and it still didn't work for him
[11:27] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ok
[11:27] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: then chances are that file doesn't exist.  You've installed svn correctly and webdav and stuff?
[11:28] <pozdiy> my printers are 'networked unix LPD' - I configured them through Gnome 'printing' menu, but the Acrobat Reader does not see them, it needs something like '/usr/bin/lp' - how to get it to work with my network printers?
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> he says that his port 25 is closed on my end, yet my ssh port is 22
[11:28] <rawrness>  http://rj.selfip.com/pirate.swf
[11:28] <GhostFreeman> should I open 25?
[11:28] <andy> is there anyway to put a trash icon on your desktop?
[11:29] <Tampler> yes with gconf-editor i think
[11:29] <rawrness> why would you want one?
[11:29] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: The server must be setup correctly.  I can see the files from a webview.  The server was setup at odesk.com
[11:29] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: all stuff in universe is not modified by ubuntu to integrate with ubuntu like the stuff in main. (it still might be slightly different, or come with different configuration, but basically theyre identical)
[11:29] <andy> cause
[11:29] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: why is he trying to connect at port 25?
[11:29] <GhostFreeman> I don't know
[11:29] <tristanmike> lupine_85: should I have the installer automatically update my X config file ?
[11:29] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: Should I be asking to checkout a file or an entire directory?
[11:29] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: I see. I learn something new each day :)
[11:29] <GhostFreeman> he says he nmapped me and 22 is closed on my end
[11:29] <lupine_85> if the driver already reads nvidia, then no
[11:30] <tristanmike> lupine_85: how do I know, should I open it now to check ? and that's xorg.conf ?
[11:30] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: but you forwarded it with your router right? and netstat -a mentions it with sshd?
[11:30] <lupine_85> were you using nvidia drivers before?
[11:30] <tristanmike> lupine_85: yeah, but I uninstalled all that stuff
[11:30] <lupine_85> i.e. did you get the nvidia splash screen?
[11:30] <rambo3> problem with php , echo phpinfo reports php4 , i have both 5 and 4 installed but would prefer php5
[11:30] <lupine_85> if so, it should still read nvidia
[11:30] <darkaura> no got the nvidia drivers when I installed
[11:30] <lupine_85> so say no
[11:30] <tristanmike> lupine_85: and yes to the splash screin, Ok,
[11:31] <darkaura> but I use nvidia drivers now
[11:31] <lupine_85> worst case scenario is you edit the file manually, which is trivial
[11:31] <GhostFreeman> i'm running through netstat -a so we'll see what happens
[11:31] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: netstat -lnt |grep 22 :D
[11:32] <GhostFreeman> I get this tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[11:32] <lupine_85> so it's only running on TCP version 6
[11:32] <lupine_85> erm, IP
[11:32] <Flannel> braddcadd2000: you check out directories
[11:32] <lupine_85> change /etc/ssh/sshd_config (IIRC) - add anther Listen directive specifying the IPv4 address
[11:33] <GhostFreeman> what's the text for another listen directive?
[11:33] <lupine_85> ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 should do it
[11:34] <tristanmike> lupine_85: after the installation I did that command "rmmod nvidia" and "modprobe nvidia" and I get "Error: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules"
[11:34] <GhostFreeman> 0.0.0.0 or my machine's IP?
[11:34] <haploid_> I have a problem with cupsys - after a remove / install cycle of cupsys, there's no /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[11:34] <braddcadd2000> Flannel: Are there log files for the errors?  Anyway to know what really went wrong?
[11:34] <andy> hi, how do I get k3b working with MP3s?
[11:34] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: either - 0.0.0.0 means "all IPv4 addresses"
[11:34] <lupine_85> tristanmike: try running sudo depmod -a
[11:34] <lupine_85> then modprobe again
[11:35] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, maybe a reboot
[11:35] <GhostFreeman> and to reload the file?
[11:35] <tristanmike> lupine_85: ok
[11:35] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: /etc/init.d/sshd reload
[11:36] <tristanmike> lupine_85: reboot it is..... wish me luck
[11:36] <GhostFreeman> I don't have sshd but I have ssh, reload it?
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> andy: libk3b2-mp3
[11:38] <Corporal_Dirge> I've noticed that Firefox on Ubuntu is slower than Firefox in Windows. Is there something I can tweak to make it faster?
[11:38] <ddly> I was wondering, if there is any powerpoint alternative for Ubuntu other than openoffice presentation, that is lightweighted and fast ?
[11:38] <GhostFreeman> ok, he's still not able to connect, it keeps timing out
[11:38] <GhostFreeman> what now?
[11:39] <rsk> Corporal_Dirge, Contribute with code or money, known issue.
[11:39] <lupine_85> GhostFreeman: yep
[11:39] <lupine_85> firewall?
[11:39] <GhostFreeman> its open
[11:39] <GhostFreeman> port 22
[11:39] <lupine_85> Corporal_Dirge: fasterfox ?
[11:39] <GhostFreeman> its probably a POS one at that
[11:39] <lupine_85> if it's open on your side and he can't connect, it's something in between
[11:40] <lupine_85> !info fasterfozx
[11:40] <ubotu> Package fasterfozx does not exist in any distro I know
[11:40] <lupine_85> !info fasterfox
[11:40] <ubotu> Package fasterfox does not exist in any distro I know
[11:40] <lupine_85> hmm
[11:40] <kitche> never heard of fasterfox before unless you mean swift fox
[11:41] <Axord> Does MOOX make lin builds of FF?
[11:41] <rawrness> fasterfox is a firefox add-on
[11:41] <kbrooks> hi all. i have a problem
[11:42] <kbrooks> i upgraded to edgy, and i get an error
[11:42] <unforgiving> we all have a problem
[11:42] <tristanmike> lupine_85: everything seems to be working fine, thank you very much for your help. :D
[11:42] <lupine_85> np :)
[11:42] <rossignoli> exit
[11:42] <rawrness> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1269/.
[11:42] <kbrooks> gdm cant start the graphics
[11:42] <tristanmike> lupine_85: should I reinstall those lrm's again ?
[11:42] <Flannel> kbrooks: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[11:42] <kbrooks> Flannel: no, edgy is out
[11:42] <Flannel> kbrooks: no it's not
[11:42] <kbrooks> o rly?
[11:42] <ddly> kbrooks, on 26th october it will be.
[11:43] <Flannel> kbrooks: RC1 is out, not the final
[11:43] <rsk> if you call release candidate "out" then sure.
[11:43] <Corporal_Dirge> ya rly
[11:43] <Max_-> what about using ubuntu on a webserver?  would I be better with debian or something else?..
[11:43] <lupine_85> tristanmike: no
[11:43] <rsk> Max_- there is ubuntu server you know..
[11:43] <lupine_85> if you've used the installer, don't install l-r-m - you get all sorts of weirdness
[11:43] <Max_-> rsk, didn't know!
[11:43] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: partimage is for clone partitions... i need to clone a entire disk with 2 partitions, 0:AIX 1:FAT16.. another option?
[11:43] <ChaosFan> Max_-: i personally would use debian on a server, but - as it usually is in the linux world - it's a matter of personal taste ;)
[11:44] <lupine_85> if you need it in the future (once 8776 comes out in a security release, maybe) then run the installer with the --uninstall option before installing lrm
[11:44] <Corporal_Dirge> XChat switched to using Mozilla as default browser.. odd.
[11:44] <kitche> t0mz: use dd
[11:44] <Max_-> ChaosFan, the main thing.. as I'm getting used to ubuntu... is security.. if there's nothing to worry about more with ubuntu than debian.. I'll keep with it
[11:44] <Flannel> Corporal_Dirge: it uses sensible-browser, you'll want to reconfigure that
[11:44] <kitche> tomz: man dd if you want to learn more about it
[11:45] <t0mz> ok
[11:45] <t0mz> let me try...
[11:45] <crochat> Anybody has problems with the flash plugin ? Actually, on my computers (one with Dapper and the other with Edgy) both have big problems when reaching a flash Web site... that "kills" firefox :-(
[11:45] <ChaosFan> Max_-: OpenBSD stresses security a lot... but you can get ubuntu equally secure ;)
[11:45] <kitche> crochat: it's a problem with firefox
[11:46] <ChaosFan> Max_-: they do "proactive security", meaning "if i close every service noone can come in"
[11:46] <crochat> kitche: Why does it appears in 1.5 and 2.0 branches ?
[11:46] <Flannel> ChaosFan: ubuntu listens to nothing by default
[11:46] <Corporal_Dirge> Flannel, It _was_ Firefox. It changed to Mozilla on it's own.
[11:46] <ChaosFan> Flannel: not even ssh?
[11:46] <Flannel> ChaosFan: right, ssh isn't even installed
[11:47] <ChaosFan> never did a default install...
[11:47] <kitche> crochat: it's how Firefox is made but I had flash working on 1.5.0.6 once and it stopped working think it has to do with how flash hooks in
[11:47] <Flannel> Corporal_Dirge: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[11:48] <sandrinah> hi
[11:48] <sandrinah> Woud you know some link to documentation about how to generate new pdiff/DiffIndex into debian repos?
[11:49] <sandrinah> I maintain a Debian repo, and i am interested in introducing new diff feature....
[11:50] <crochat> kitche: http://www.brainonfire.net/2006/05/25/firefox-crash-on-flash-content-in-ubuntu/
[11:50] <kitche> crochat: it just doesn't deal with ubuntu
[11:54] <anon32> when edgy goes final, will I be able to upgrade automatically, or will I need to add repositories?
[11:54] <anon32> !schedule
[11:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:54] <kbrooks> antoninus: alt+f2 -> gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[11:55] <anon32> !edgy
[11:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:56] <anon32> um... so how do I add edgy repositories? do I just go into sources.list and change all mentions of dapper to edgy?
[11:56] <anon32> !repos
[11:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:57] <gnomefreak> anon32: that is a question for #ubuntu
[11:57] <gnomefreak> +1
[11:57] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <ubutom> I did what kbrooks said.... it changes the repositories...
[11:57] <jtf0518> anyone out there running lm-sensors on an recent model Intel motherboard that has fan control working?
[11:57] <ubutom> ^ anon32
[11:57] <anon32> hmm
[11:58] <agent> anon32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[11:59] <AdamMK> how do i change the splash image for just one user? i've figured out that changing /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml changes the  splash for all users, but i need to change it for one user.
[12:00] <t0mz> kitche:
[12:00] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey. I've just installed Kubuntu on a computer, and one of my first setup steps is getting internet. The box has a wireless WG311v2 adapter, so I'm using NdisWrapper, but something seems to be blocking communication to the device.