[12:15] Tonio_: no pb [12:15] kwwii: http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/burn_baby.png http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/burn_baby1.png http://forum.beryl-project.org/attachment.php?item=2682 [12:15] Tonio_: btw, do you already have tickets for UDS? === Lure just got them today [12:16] what is the purpose of the burn? [12:17] nixternal: close an application and it burns up [12:17] ahh ok, so in otherwords, absolutely useless, just eye candy === nixternal pets his "default" Kubuntu desktop by kwwii ;) [12:18] Lure: yes, it is an electronic ticket, so I just have to give the number at the airport [12:18] functionality + usability + beautifulability == Kubuntu [12:18] nixternal: though you can have it occur on open close minimize etc [12:18] Tonio_: when are you arriving? Sat? [12:18] yep [12:19] dunno how to go from the airport to the hotel [12:19] Lure: when are you arriving ? [12:19] nixternal: hope you like it - you have to live with it for 6 months! [12:19] Sat, from Orlando [12:19] what time ? [12:20] Tonio_: 1102 - and a friend of mine will have a rental car [12:21] Tonio_: otherwise there is shuttle service from SFO [12:21] Lure: ah cool [12:21] kwwii: not if he's feisty enough :) [12:21] Fiesty :-( [12:21] Lure: I arrive at 16:43 [12:21] hehe [12:22] I thought about getting a rental car [12:22] I arrive around the same time [12:22] then again, my brother lives in the area.... === Lure -> bed - good nite all! [12:24] Lure: [12:24] ../../src/k3bapplication.cpp:291: error: no matching function for call to 'K3bDevice::DeviceManager::deviceByName(KURL)' [12:24] ../../src/../libk3bdevice/k3bdevicemanager.h:77: note: candidates are: K3bDevice::Device* K3bDevice::DeviceManager::deviceByName(const QString&) [12:24] not for this time hehe :) [12:25] nite lure. [12:25] Tonio_: just convert KURL to QString (this is just nice excercise for c++ beginner) ;-) [12:26] Tonio_: hint: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.4-api/kdecore/html/classKURL.html [12:26] ;-) [12:27] Lure: will do, go to bed now ! :) [12:27] you did enough === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] hehe [12:32] gnite. === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] Lure: fyi (even if you sleep) that works :) [12:55] Lure: thanks for the help, I'll finish the kde integration now === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-204-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] Riddell: I just noticed that kds ftbfs from bzr.... [01:39] Riddell: make[2] : *** No rule to make target `throbber_back_16.png.c.o', needed by `usplash-theme-kubuntu.so'. Stop. [01:39] Riddell: isn't that related to your last change ? [01:41] Tonio_: it build on upload, check if there'a a diff between the archive and bzr, I might have forgotten to commit something [01:41] Riddell: okay let me check [01:41] Riddell: fyi, thanks to the help of lure, k3b integration is over, and works :) [01:43] integration for cd ripping? === Riddell beds [01:49] Riddell: yes, for cd ripping [01:49] Riddell: seems to work taking your package and applying my yesterday changes....... I'm commiting this [01:53] Tonio_: commit where? [01:54] Riddell: heh, to bzr :) [01:54] I'm not going to upload, don't mind :) [01:54] I don't wanna lose my upload rights hehe :) [01:58] k3b is in bzr? [02:01] Riddell: no, kds in bzr ;) [02:02] k3b will go to my repo, nothing else lol [02:02] Riddell: [02:02] -------------- This line and the following will be ignored -------------- [02:02] unknown: [02:02] usplash/throbber_back_16.png [02:02] usplash/throbber_fore_16.png [02:02] usplash/usplash_640_400.png [02:02] bzr doesn't want to commit png changes.......... [02:02] the png files in the package and in bzr are different [02:02] but impossible to update [02:06] or maybe they simply are not there.......; I'm checking === Mez [i=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] Riddell: okay the three png files are not on bzr, that's why the build fails.......; I just would like to know why I can't commit them...... [02:12] bzr commit [02:12] bzr push <- the real commit [02:12] i went a week committing with bzr and nothing showing up ;) [02:14] nixternal: what does it changes ? [02:14] bzr commit commits the changes, but doesn't send them to the server [02:14] hu ? [02:14] bzr push is what send the commit tot he server [02:15] bzr push sftp://branch_location [02:15] nixternal: bah 'ive bzr commit yesterday and the changes are in [02:15] is it giving you an error? [02:15] yesterday no [02:16] today yes, becauce there is something going wrong with those png files [02:16] hmmm [02:16] nixternal: to make it simple [02:16] I bzr sftp://......... [02:17] I had 3 png files in usplash [02:17] bzr commit [02:17] -> nothing to commit [02:17] this is the response === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] sorry Tonio_..phone call [02:28] did you [02:28] bzr add the png files [02:29] since they are new [02:33] bzr nope I didn't, I may try indeed [02:34] nixternal: but bzr commit is supposed to handle new files.......; I'll try anyway [02:36] nixternal: looks like it worked... [02:37] nixternal: ah okay I didn't knew we had to bzr add the files before commit....... [02:37] nixternal: I'm a total nocive with bzr.... okay it worked this time, thanks :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/597 [02:46] hehe, this is exactly where I live [02:46] I choosed the good place, just sad that I'm not a student anymore.... === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] ya Tonio_, i am a novice as well with bzr, i just realized i need to checkout and not branch [03:09] nixternal: hehe :) [03:10] nixternal: pfiou..... good day for packaging....; I'm adding kdebase, kdelibs, kdeaddons, kdeutils, k3b, amarok kubuntu-default-settings packages to my repo ;) [03:10] ready for feisty [03:10] woohoo [03:11] +kmplayer [03:11] hehe, that spec will be done quickly [03:15] dinner time...bbiaf ;) [03:16] nixternal: bye (beds) [03:16] g'nite [03:21] nobody knows the answer in #ubuntu+1, so, Why can't I play *.mp3 in amarok anymore? (Yes, I have libxine-extracodecs and libmad installed) [03:21] only in amarok? [03:22] yes [03:22] what's the console spew? [03:22] ryanakca, what engine are you using for amarok ? [03:23] and someone else had the same problem earlier in #ubuntu+1 ... about 4 hours ago... [03:23] xine [03:24] This started last night... I upgraded and rebooted... forget if amarok or xine or something else related was upgraded... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=Jucato@210.213.193.107] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:44] crimsun: hmm... it seems to work and then not work and then work again... [03:45] crimsun: no console output... I'll let you know how if it starts again... [03:45] ryanakca, when I first installed edgy, amarok wouldnt play OGGs [03:45] wierd... === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.154.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-154.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.166] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242375048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku2 [n=nuku@unaffiliated/nuku] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:15] hmm. kmenu artwork changed === Hawkwind Sneaks off with Hobbsee's pointy stick [05:16] do we have a spec page for the generic kernel? === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind Quietly sneaks the pointy stick into Jucato's pocket and walks away slowly and innocently [05:17] generic kernel doesn't work for me [05:17] I don't have it! :) === Hobbsee drops a large saucepan on Hawkwind's head === Jucato runs away with long pointy stick... [05:18] Ouchie!!!! [05:18] that was crazy Hawkwind, that stick has a built in GPS unit running Kubuntu... [05:18] Full or not, that thing hurt [05:18] nixternal: Hah. Notice I don't have possession of it now :P [05:18] So I feel sorry for that guy over there ~~~~> [05:18] obviously you haven't seen the "sticks" in harry potter [05:19] Ickkkkkkkkkkk @ Fairy Potter [05:19] Thankfully my kids don't even like Harry. Unfortunately Liz does though :( [05:19] I saw the first one, not my type of movie at all [05:19] heh === Jucato liked the books === Hobbsee does too === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-233.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] 2 vs 1. you lose Hawkwind :P [05:21] Jucato: Story of my life every Monday and Wednesday when I look at the lotto numbers :P [05:21] well, add Saturday to your list :P [05:22] I would, but it's only Friday. Sheeesh, you livin` in the future or what :-) [05:22] lol oh yeah... [05:22] well then add Friday :P [05:22] Hobbsee is living waaaay in the future [05:22] indeed [05:22] living in the future is fun! === Hawkwind Pokes Hobbsee and reminds her that Jucato has her pointy stick [05:23] I don't think you can get any more "future-y" than that === Hobbsee holds out her hand [05:23] hand it over. === Jucato hesistates... === Jucato hands it over slowly, then runs away fast [05:26] Hobbsee: who take care on amarok now? [05:26] thankyou [05:26] freeflying: imbrandon [05:26] Hobbsee: thanks [05:26] imbrandon: ping [05:28] pong [05:28] freeflying ? [05:29] imbrandon: would u like set the defalut font of amarok to sans serif or sans [05:30] i beleave Riddell reciently set that system wide, why ? [05:30] erm why would we chnage the default font is what i'm asking [05:30] imbrandon: it can't display chinese character defaultly [05:31] right but shouldent it use what kde sets as the system default [05:31] ( that Riddell just fixed a few days back ) [05:31] imbrandon: if and when you get a chance, look over bug 67200, psn made some fixes for this bug and it is in the konvi svn [05:31] Malone bug 67200 in konversation "[Edgy] v1.0.1 Excess Flood due to /WHO on connect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67200 [05:31] nixternal, ok [05:32] nixternal, what svn revision is it , you know ? [05:32] i created a patch messing around earlier if you want to take a look, and im running it here after the build..works great [05:32] no i don't [05:32] i remove extra*/konversation already ;( [05:32] sure , email it to me if you will , and it would help to know the svn revision you pulled it from for the changelog [05:33] shoot..let me see if i can get it [05:33] i only grabbed the channel.cpp and inputfilters.cpp from the src dir that psn redid todoay to close the upstream bug [05:34] 597567 [05:34] remember that ;) [05:34] thats the svn revision ? [05:36] on its way [05:36] yes [05:36] k [05:36] i sent you the debdiff as well as the debian/patches/kubuntu_01_autowho.diff as well [05:37] k [05:37] i wouldn't have noticed this bug if it wasn't for my bip server dying ;) [05:38] yea mines dies a few times , i thought it was a bip bug [05:38] s/dies/died [05:38] the excess flood? [05:38] yea [05:38] on connect of a new client [05:38] ya, it is because the mass /WHO on all the channels with a ton of people [05:38] yup [05:38] now the way psn did it is nice [05:39] thus i took all my high traffic channels of autojoin [05:39] lol [05:39] when you connect, it waits for the first 90 seconds...but if someone talks int he chan, then it will autowho them and grab their info [05:39] i was joining w/o the /WHO...that is horrid, because i like knowing who some people are and where they are from when i am chattin' with them [05:40] why dident psn upload it ( or get an OK ) ? [05:40] upload it to our repo? [05:40] ahh psn is upstream, i forgot [05:40] ya..hehe [05:40] he rocked that out for me quick to === imbrandon headdesks, i get teams mixed up at times [05:40] hehe [05:41] well if you join it will still /who after 90 seconds ? [05:41] that sucks [05:41] but it is incremental, so it won't kill you [05:41] the first 77 seconds on irc with konvi is useless anyways [05:41] as it is synching everything [05:41] not if you join 20 channels at the same time, it will just wait 90 seconds and then /who them all [05:42] well, i have 31 channels [05:42] and i didn't even notice it occur [05:42] why the hell does it /who anyhow before someone speaks or you right click and /who them [05:42] i was telling psn, that his fix didn't work, and then i dragged the mouse over to the nicklist and everything was working [05:43] the /who picks up everyones status..w/o it, when you hover above a user, it shows a blank tooltip [05:43] and you don't know is away or here [05:49] ;) [05:51] freeflying, does amarok not use the default kde font ? 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[08:46] Hobbsee: did you notice that sometimes konqueror fails to load the kds settings ? [08:47] especially with preloaded sessions [08:47] it has been reported a while ago [08:47] Tonio_: cant say i've been watching too closely. i tend not to use konq [08:47] Hobbsee: yeah, but I'm sure you heard about the bugs the sometimes, the menus are not complete didn't you ? [08:48] I'm affraid I'll have to hardcode the settings via a patch to get that fixed...... but I really don't want to... [08:48] Hobbsee: what are you using ? krusader ? [08:48] Tonio_: konq for file browsing, firefox for web browsing [08:49] actually, i've been meaning to look at krusader [08:49] apparently it's really good [08:49] said to be yes === freet15 [n=freet15@221.221.154.156] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@88.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:16] hi Tonio_ - so it worked? [09:17] Lure: yep [09:17] perfectly [09:18] Lure: thanks for the help :) [09:18] Lure: fancy testing ? [09:18] Tonio_: it probably makes sense to suggest sending it upstream [09:18] Lure: impossible [09:18] Tonio_: no time for testing - working Saturday for me :-( [09:18] Lure: in fact the servicemenu I did for integration is to be compatible with _Sime's patches [09:19] Lure: the --device patch can be send upstream, but no way to merge the service menu [09:19] Tonio_: not everything, just -device option - this would make sense in general [09:19] yes, probably [09:19] I'll email the patch and we'll see [09:22] there they go [09:22] goodbye [09:23] why? 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[09:27] hiya Hobbsee! ;) [09:27] nixternal: hi [09:27] nixternal: hey [09:27] well hello there mr. freeflying [10:07] Riddell, sebas: can we target bug 67081 and bug 64752 as release critical and do a simple workaround by reducing CHARGE_LEVEL_THRESHOLD? [10:07] Malone bug 67081 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager thinks battery is low way too early" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67081 [10:07] Malone bug 64752 in kde-guidance "Forced hibernate is too early" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64752 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] hi everyone :) [10:12] nixternal: great work on the RC page, as usual ;) [10:13] why tink u [10:21] Lure: my guidance-power-manager dies when i click the systray icon. It used to work, i think this is a new feature in 0.7.0. [10:24] fdoving: which platform? Can you start it from Konsole and report output (and please open bug for it) [10:24] yes, nixternal really rocks - who cares if good things are done if we are not able to get our message through [10:25] Lure: opening a bug as we speak, this is powerpc, no smart console output, only bug 64406 output, and kcrash. [10:25] Malone bug 64406 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager: dcop problem message when starting in a terminal" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64406 === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:26] fdoving: are you able to get backtrace from kcrash? [10:26] thanks Lure, glad i can help out anyway possible [10:26] for instance, im going to go and keep my bed company now [10:26] Lure: no, it doesn't give any usefull info. [10:27] g'nite all, and to all a g'day, g'nite, see ya in a few! [10:27] nite nixternal. [10:27] fdoving: hard to debug, since I do not have ppc HW... :-( maybe imbrandon or Riddell can confirm/debug [10:29] Riddell: why have we changed Deja Vu -> Sans Serif? [10:29] Lure: because the chinese fonts werent getting rendered correctly [10:29] Hobbsee: thanks, will change my profile then... [10:32] Lure: bug 67316 if you're interessted. [10:32] Malone bug 67316 in kde-guidance "[EDGY] guidance-powermanager crash on powerpc." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67316 [10:35] Lure: nevermind, it's a problem with kde-guidance-powermanager and the serenity style/deco. it's not important for edgy. [10:35] changed the styles and deco now, and it works. [10:35] fdoving: I was just wondering what tris serenity is... [10:35] fdoving: good to know === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:39] Lure: thanks for your time. :) [10:40] fdoving: nopb === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-204-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=Jucato@210.213.192.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:01] i need an interesting picture [12:02] does anyone else using the new ktorrent have times left completly wrong? [12:03] http://zebrafinch.com/SocietyFinch/untitled%20folder/Fawn%20self.GIF might do [12:04] Hobbsee: so what are you going to use the "interesting picture" for? [12:04] seaLne: have you been in -bugs? [12:04] this was in a /query [12:04] [Sat Oct 21 2006] [19:58:31] do you have pic of you ? :) [12:04] [Sat Oct 21 2006] [19:59:14] hidden safely away. [12:04] [Sat Oct 21 2006] [20:00:27] do u have a pic of you ? [12:05] only idling [12:05] seaLne: he's switched to /msg after trying to chat me up in bugs [12:05] ah :) [12:05] seaLne: ahh - it's the last lot of stuff that was said [12:06] the stuff there looked fairly normal === Hobbsee thought that the pic was entirely suitable for the constant request for a picture. === Hobbsee doesnt like being chatted up, see. that's why i tend to avoid using my real name online [12:09] oddly enough, the guy hasnt replied back :P === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] heh === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:13] is Bug #56168 worth bothering to try to fix for edgy? i don't think so [12:13] Malone bug 56168 in kdemultimedia "k3b should *not* calculate md5 sum of images by default" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56168 [12:13] i think that can survive fine till k3b 1 in feisty [12:14] nah... [12:14] well, it probably wouldnt get accepte [12:14] d [12:14] yeah, i wouldn't accept it :) [12:15] seaLne: there's various unmet deps stuff still, if you wanted to fix them. [12:15] there's a link in -motu [12:17] i need to get other stuff done in the next few hours but i should have time tonight to look at stuff so i'll ask for suggestions then :) [12:19] :) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180116004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] Bug #67326 [12:28] Malone bug 67326 in ktorrent "ktorrent 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 gets time left wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67326 === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alain [n=alain@vpn-stud.rz-zw.fh-kl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:33] have you try to paste an 800-page article to kword? === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] seaLne: 56168 is not a bug - you can click Start and will continue === Jucato [n=Jucato@210.213.192.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:52] Lure: yeah i know, but it seems to annoy some people === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-233.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-233.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] how do i find out what package the file /usr/lib/libGL.so belongs to ? [02:07] Ingmar^: packages.ubuntu.com - type in libGL.so in the files box [02:07] Ingmar^: dpkg -S file [02:07] that too [02:07] hey Riddell [02:07] afternoon Hobbsee [02:08] thanks Riddell & Hobbsee === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-233.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku2 [n=nuku@e178084101.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] hi Riddell [02:26] [10:07] Riddell, sebas: can we target bug 67081 and bug 64752 as releas[10:07] Riddell, sebas: can we target bug 67081 and bug 64752 as release critical and do a simple workaround by reducing CHARGE_LEVEL_THRESHOLD?e critical and do a simple workaround by reducing CHARGE_LEVEL_THRESHOLD? [02:26] Malone bug 67081 in kde-guidance "guidance-power-manager thinks battery is low way too early" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67081 [02:26] Malone bug 64752 in kde-guidance "Forced hibernate is too early" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64752 [02:26] (sorry, double paste) [02:28] Lure: CHARGE_LEVEL_THRESHOLD is in guidance-power-manager or hal? [02:28] Riddell: guidance - sebas implemented this for one user, but it set it pretty high... [02:29] for one user? [02:30] Riddell: problem is that remaining_time can temporarily jump to very small number and can cause [02:30] Riddell: threshold was done to prevent doing action if percentage charged is above it [02:30] Riddell: so if charge is 50+%, then action will not be performed even though remaining_time is 0 [02:31] Riddell: it looks like there are many cases where remaining_time might get confused - see all the cases in bug 60442 [02:31] Malone bug 60442 in gnome-power "Dual / Two Batteries, shutdown on empty expansion battery. (GPM does not recognises second battery on hotplug)" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60442 [02:32] Riddell: with change of threshold to 5% (or 10%) we would solve unwanted hibernation/shutdown (typical action on critical battery) for many users [02:33] Lure: so it's currently 50% and you propose to change to 5%? [02:33] Riddell: they would however still get some not so problematic warnings (notification of low level), but those are not RC [02:33] Riddell: yes (can be also 10%) [02:34] Problem is that 50% may be way below what you are left in two battery case (as percentage is cumulative for both batteries) [02:34] sounds like a good fix to me [02:35] send me a debdiff and I'll upload [02:35] two batteries may have different capacity and when first one empties (typicaly external/larger) which causes remaining_time bug event, then percantage is probably between 30-50% [02:35] Riddell: ok, thanks [02:36] Riddell: I will still try to ping sebas why he choose so big timeout, as I can remeber that even the initial reported (for which treshold was implemented) said that it may be too high (but it was good enough for him) [02:38] Riddell: I will also try to reproduce bug 65885 - if we can fix this one it would be also great... [02:38] Malone bug 65885 in kde-guidance "hibernation by closing lid not recovering correctly" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65885 === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] Lure: think it'll be easily fixed? === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-233.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:43] Riddell: not sure yet - if it is not obvious fix I would wait for -updates [02:44] Lure: even -updates can only take fixes are are easy to understand [02:46] Riddell: sure for that, it is just if it is not couple of obvious lines it is RC candidate, for -updates we can take some time to verify with reporters to cofirm it is correct (and no regression) [02:47] true === alain [n=alain@vpn-stud.rz-zw.fh-kl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] hi [02:52] can anyone explain me why Bug #30207 is so difficult to fix - for me it seems to be an (auto) configuration problem [02:52] Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 [02:55] Riddell: so... would it be possible to change the lines in /usr/share/desktop-directories/ ? (the systemsettings .mo bug) [02:55] mhb: not really, I have no reliable way to do that [02:56] Riddell: you can't apply a patch to them? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] Riddell: well the Czech descriptions are really messed up in them [02:57] Riddell: totallly ... and nobody asked us to check or correct it [02:58] mhb: I can't apply a patch at this stage no === _Sime wonders who is using floppies still. Maybe we should send them a USB-stick in mail. It might be faster and cheaper than fixing that bug... [02:58] _Sime: :) [02:58] mhb: you might want to look at fixing the strings in KDE to sort it out longer term [02:59] <_Sime> It is very simple. File a floppy related bug, get a USB-stick in the post. :-) [02:59] Riddell: systemsettings are on KDE's SVN? [03:01] _Sime: :D [03:01] mhb: yes [03:02] <_Sime> Hobbsee: ...a USB-stick and steaming hot cup of STFU. [03:03] Riddell: can you give me a small hint on where exactly? I'm always lost in KDE's SVN... (and Launchpad too :o) [03:03] _Sime: hehe. i should give you a link to what i'm reading now. but it's better if you're in retail yourself :P [03:03] Riddell: problem is that apci-support lid.sh scripts is missing check for power-manager, but adding check (over dcop) does not help as dcop is not working from acpid :-( [03:04] Riddell: I suspect dcop works only from user context - acpid reports: ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! [03:04] dcop? or dbus? [03:04] Riddell: see /usr/share/acpi-support/policy-funcs [03:05] we are missing check for power-manager (which is fix for bug), but the check through dcop does not work [03:08] <_Sime> mhb: k-s-s is in playground/base/systemsettings. [03:08] _Sime: thanks [03:08] Riddell: I am not sure how this worked for klaptopdaemon (but I can imagine that some painful bugs that we have seen were due to both acpi-support and klaptop doing their stuff :-( ) === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:16] Riddell: according to this (http://developer.kde.org/documentation/other/dcop.html), we would need to mess with ICEAUTHORITY environment variable, but the problem is that we do not know which user is logged in [03:19] Riddell: we could do ps -p `pidof dcopserver` -o user= in order to set ICEAUTHORITY, but this would not work in multi-user environemnt (lstp) [03:22] sounds ugly [03:24] Riddell: indeed :-( [03:25] Riddell: if guidance-power-manager would be binary, we could do simple "pidof guidance-power-manager" like kpowersave... [03:28] Riddell: actually, there is -x option: pidof -x guidance-power-manager.py [03:28] it works here! === Lure trying now... [03:31] ok, other than triaging (and anything having to do with editing code), what can I do to help? [03:32] ryanakca: you can deal with the person in -motu [03:32] ryanakca: i've never seen anyone else with that problem [03:33] Hobbsee: [08:58] hi, I ran into problems while upgrading from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.5... ? [03:34] ryanakca: that's the one [03:34] as for *why* it wouldnt have all upgraded with a standard upgrade, i dont know [03:35] it's wierd... [03:35] that's not the way repos work, unless some of it ftbfs [03:36] ftbfs? failed to build from source? [03:37] yep [03:38] ah, so what packages does this involve? kdebase? [03:38] (like the one that needs to be fixed) === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:41]