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jendeDigital_Pioneer: which Kubuntu?Dapper?12:10
Digital_Pioneerjende, Yeah, Dapper Drake, it calls itself.12:10
Hawkwinddvayanu: It wouldn't work here til I put it in the mozilla-firefox directory12:11
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, Mine (just downloaded) came with 3.5.2.12:11
archangel_fdoving: 3.5.212:11
jendeDigital_Pioneer: your card should work out of the box12:11
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Digital_Pioneerjende, There's a Linux driver for it? How do you know what it is?...12:11
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dvayanuhawkwind: but mozilla-firefox is linked to firefox...12:12
dvayanuat leat on my system12:12
jendeDigital_Pioneer: usually the driver refers to your chipset12:12
fdovingarchangel_: hmm.. then i'm not sure.12:12
dvayanuhawkwind: i have an error on start too: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3k1tmP86.html12:12
Hawkwind!baddevice > dvayanu12:12
jendeDigital_Pioneer: type in a console lspci12:12
Digital_Pioneerjende: One sec.12:13
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jendeDigital_Pioneer: if you're not sure what device listed in the output of lspci your wlan card is pastebin the lot12:13
jende!pastebin12:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:13
Digital_Pioneerjende, I see something about Texas Instruments ACX 11112:13
fdovingjende: another acx :)12:13
jendefdoving: yep...12:14
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jendefdoving: we're having probs I guess with madwifi12:14
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Digital_Pioneerjende, I would guess it's the TI ACX 111#*Chipset.12:14
Digital_Pioneer;)12:14
fdovingDigital_Pioneer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx11112:14
dvayanuhawkwind: ok, gonna read and try that... i'm happy that my config is working at all with a rc kernel (2.6.19-rc2-mm1)12:15
fdovingDigital_Pioneer: go to the very bottom, and read the comment, before you do any of the other steps.12:15
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, I recognize your nick.12:15
paul__I cracked routers wep and  wpa with my railink pci wifi card, kubuntu and aircrack :)12:15
jendefdoving: were there any major changes for wifi's in the past 48hrs?12:15
paul__my router ^%^12:15
Hawkwinddvayanu: Why are you using that kernel on Dapper ?12:16
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fdovingjende: don't think so, or were there a linux-restricted-modules update maybe? hang on, i'll check.12:16
dvayanuhawkwind: edgy12:16
HawkwindOk, why that kernel on Edgy even :P12:16
dvayanuhawkwind: the only one to support my chipset12:16
dvayanup96512:16
Hawkwinddvayanu: Ah, gotcha12:16
fdovingjende: this: 2006-10-20 18:52:16 status installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 2.6.17.5-1112:16
jendefdoving: thanks that you're checking cause the probs in here are getting heaps12:16
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Digital_Pioneerfdoving, OK, having done that, what do I need to do now? Reboot, or just restart something?12:17
fdovingDigital_Pioneer: you can reload the module, from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) run 'sudo rmmod acx;sudo modprobe acx'12:18
VIKIWhat do I do? According to java test page. Firefox is using an outdated java plugin, whereas opera doesnt even have a java plugin. But jre is installed. Whenever I try to update java I get a message saying that it's already lastest version. What am I missing?12:18
jendefdoving: is 18:52 your local time?12:18
thompaanybody know if I boot live noapic, does my install come out same?12:19
fdovingjende: no, it's 00:20 here now.12:19
jendefdoving: so were some changes12:19
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!!!12:19
Digital_Pioneer:D12:19
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fdovingDigital_Pioneer :)12:19
pointwoodfdoving: same timezone as I - where do you live?12:19
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fdovingpointwood: Norway.12:20
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, I've been working on this for days! FINALLY!!!12:20
jendeFull Acknowlegement from person12:20
archangel_I try to access my cd/dvd drive and get a "malformed url" error every time. Is my drive bad?12:20
pointwoodfdoving: cool! Denmark here :)12:20
fdovingpointwood, cool :)12:20
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pointwoodAarhus to be more exact :)12:20
dhqhow do i get the repos source list for edgy12:20
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dhq!edgy12:21
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:21
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dhq!edgy repos12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edgy repos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
fdovingdhq: what do you mean exactly? change the dapper ones to edgy?12:21
dhqfdoving: its so slow12:22
instructor!edgy12:22
fdovingdhq: slow? you can do it fast too: 'sudo sed s/dapper/edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list' for example.12:22
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jendesudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy /g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list12:23
jendesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:23
jendesudo apt-get -f install12:23
jendesudo dpkg --configure -a12:23
peacekprwhen i boot my computer, it goes to the KDE Graphical Login Screen but the screen is flickering... i type in my username and password (blindly) and hit Enter.  Immediately, the screen stops flickering and all is well.  Does anyone know what this difference could be?  Does the login screen use a different xorg.conf ?12:23
sorush20when will kubuntu have an autosource addition tool?12:23
fdovingjende: you forgot to make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed both before, and after dist-upgrade :] 12:23
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peacekprthe only xorg.conf I know of is in /etc/X1112:23
nail_anyone had any issues with the KB on the latest live cd? (Edgy)12:24
jendefdoving: *grrrr* I forgot that to post, damn you're so right12:24
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jendefdoving: I might need one more coffee12:25
VIKIK O MON12:26
VIKIInstlal it12:26
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VIKIenable it12:26
VIKIdamn12:26
VIKIopera is missing java plugin, the java is there12:26
fdovingI must go to bed very soon, or my gf will probably somehow break my computers.12:26
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jendefdoving: I've got to go soonish, too, as my gf has been already yelling for me...12:27
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jendefdoving: where about in Norway are you?12:27
sorush20how do I start the cookie deamon?12:27
dvayanuhawkwind: next question :-) on dapper i had run automatiKs which installed win32codecs, proper fonts and so on... do you know where i can get this for edgy?12:27
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fdovingjende: lesund. it's about in the middle.12:28
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jendefdoving: I might be next year in norway12:28
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fdovingjende: ok, this is offtopic, i'm in #kubuntu-offtopic too :)12:29
jendefdoving: but not today.12:29
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jendefdoving: we booth should look after our .........12:29
sorush20what is the cookie daemon please ,, konqueror is unable to start it..12:30
jendefdoving: before they crack our pc's12:30
fdovingjende: i agree, it's too late.12:30
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jendegood nite everybody...12:30
fdovingsorush20: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced [tab]  -> service manager12:30
fdovingjende: nite.12:31
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jendefdoving: see ya tomorrow!?12:31
archangel_I need help with my cd drive12:32
jendefdoving: I'll be around12:32
sorush20fdoving: where is the advanced thing/' there is no advanced tab12:32
fdovingsorush20: it's at the very top, not really a tab, it's a button.12:32
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jendearchangel_: whats the prob?12:32
fdovingjende: i'll probably be here too. see you.12:32
fdovinggnite all.12:32
jendefdoving: I'll fix archangel and then I'll be gone, too12:33
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jendearchangel_: ???12:33
jende!ask12:33
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:33
archangel_sorry (kids)12:34
morghanphoenixadding a fstab entry for a fat32 external hdd, type options and pass paramaters unsure, I believe it is vfat user, noauto 0 0, is this correct?12:34
archangel_I have switched 2 drives and I cant get either to work12:34
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jendearchangel_: I'm not a kid, sorry!12:34
archangel_lol12:34
archangel_no I mean sorry it took me a while to respond12:35
archangel_I was dealing with MY kids12:35
jendearchangel_: so what is the prob with your cd-drives?12:35
archangel_1 of them I keep getting a "malformed error" that keep popping up when I try to access it12:36
archangel_and the other I get nothing12:36
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archangel_as if a drive is not installed12:36
jendearchangel_: did each got mounted?12:37
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archangel_not sure how to12:37
jendearchangel_: check it by openening a console (ALT+F2) and at the prompt of the console you type: mount12:37
archangel_jende: ok, what now12:38
jendearchangel_: its not there, is ist?12:38
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archangel_jende: no12:39
jendearchangel_: shouldn't be...good12:39
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jendearchangel_: now close the console and press again ALT+F212:39
mikeproblem installing xbuntu12:39
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archangel_jende: ok12:39
mikeplease help12:39
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jendeand type kdesu kate /etc/fstab12:40
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mikemy computer freezes when installin xbuntu12:40
jendearchangel_: paste the lot to pastebin12:40
rawrnessfun12:40
jende!pastebin12:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:40
rawrnesstry thte alt. install mike12:41
mikerawrness: what alt?12:41
mikeoo the alt install12:41
rawrnessalt. install cd?12:41
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coreymon77okay12:41
coreymon77fdoving12:41
rawrnesslive cds can be real slow12:41
mikeok but i used the same insatll i used for ubuntu, i had normal ubuntu working ine but am switching to xbuntu for my laptop12:41
coreymon77i did the whole sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:42
coreymon77is that it12:42
rawrnessthen just install the thingy for it12:42
coreymon77is all i have to do now restart?12:42
jendecoreymon77: fdoving went to bed12:42
rawrnessif you got ubuntu runing12:42
coreymon77im using dapper12:42
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coreymon77and apt is just finsishing witht he apt-get dist-upgrade12:42
jendecoreymon77: so you should be fine now12:43
mikerawrness:  what do u mean install the thingy for it?12:43
rawrnessil ring ya up a site 1 min12:43
coreymon77what about those other commands, like -f install12:43
rawrnessbtw why how do you make the red text?12:43
rawrnesshow&*12:43
coreymon77and configure -a12:43
archangel_jende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27578/12:43
jendecoreymon77: don't worry bout them anymore12:43
coreymon77just restart12:44
mikerawrness:  to make text red type the person name in front who u are talking to12:44
mikerawrness:  usualy just type first letter or two then press tab12:44
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mikerawrness: u got that website?12:44
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rawrnessmike: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu12:45
rawrnessmike: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu ?12:45
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jendearchangel_: that lokks just fine12:45
rawrnessdonn't look red12:45
jendearchangel_: that looks just fine12:45
VIKIhttp://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dicas/verDica.php?codigo=676112:45
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Bauhalgum maluco afim de fumar um baseado?12:45
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Bauhvamos queimar uma resina!12:46
archangel_jende: should work now?12:46
jende!es12:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:46
mikerawrness: will that take off ubuntu too ?12:46
jendearchangel_: and whenever you have a CD in there you get that error?12:46
archangel_jende: only with my dvd drive12:47
rawrnessmike: when you boot you can click session and what desktop ya want to ru n12:47
archangel_jende: I switched out with a another drive and I get nothing out of this one12:47
mikehttp://guidetolinux.wetpaint.com/12:48
rawrnessmike:  it then becomes default12:48
coreymon77wow12:48
coreymon77there is alot to uppgrade12:48
coreymon77its been unpacking and setting up for almost 10 minutes now!12:48
archangel_jende: should i switch back to the dvd drive (at least I get an error with that one)12:48
jendearchangel_: yep, do that...they're internal ones?12:48
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archangel_jende: yeah, give me 2.5 minutes at the most12:49
jendeVIKI: it makes no sense to post links to non-eglish sites in here12:49
jendearchangel_: no worries12:49
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VIKIFound what is wrong. Opera is missing the link to java plugin, but where is java?12:50
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jendeVIKI: sudo find / -name java12:50
jendeVIKI: or sudo locate java12:51
Dasnipa] [you do not have to run sudo to use locate.12:51
Dasnipa] [that is a very bad idea12:51
jendeVIKI: /usr/bin/12:51
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jendeDasnipa] [: the ooutput is the same, so that shouldn't bother now really12:53
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VIKIok, ive found java12:54
VIKIbut opera is missing the link12:54
jendeDasnipa] [: or do you think its worth discussing now?I'm quite tired already anyway12:54
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archangel_jende: should I get an icon?12:55
jendearchangel_: an icon?you mean the drive is connected and a CD or DVD is inserted?12:55
archangel_jende: malformed url   again12:55
archangel_jende: yes12:56
archangel_jende: sorry it took so long12:56
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jendearchangel_: I guess you get that window in which you'll be aked to tell what to do, ie. open and stuff12:56
archangel_jende: I am using a data cd and the drive is saying that the cd is black12:56
jendearchangel_: I guess you get that window in which you'll be asked to tell what to do, ie. open and stuff12:56
archangel_jende: I mean blank12:57
Dasnipa] [jende, but its horrible practice to run programs in sudo that you dont need to12:57
jendearchangel_: what data cd is it?12:57
archangel_jende: pictures from my camera12:57
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Dasnipa] [jende, you might give new users the impression they need to sudo everything and taht will create a ton more problems... hmm sudo firefox... sudo xchat... yeah all smart ideas12:58
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jendeDasnipa] [: I know that, but it's already 1am and I'm getting tired unfortunately; nope I'll never ever gave users that impression and haven't got on mind to do!12:58
archangel_jende: there on there are 555 pics12:59
mikeyou guys all get ur flash 9 alphas!!!!12:59
jendearchangel_: but the cd hasn't been burnt as a picture cd?12:59
archangel_jende: everything I put in there is 'blank'12:59
jendearchangel_: do the drives work in other machines?12:59
archangel_jende: no it was burned as a data cd12:59
magicmikeYo jende.01:01
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archangel_jende: yes the one I am using now does for sure01:01
archangel_jende: crap I have to go, I will be on later.    Sorry to cut you off01:02
jendearchangel_: open a console again ;-) and type ls -al /dev/cdrom01:02
archangel_ok01:02
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mikerawrness:  us see flash 9 alpha is out!01:02
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jendemike: flash9 beta is out01:02
rawrnessi am using flash 9b01:02
intelikeyhmmm i may not be back yet...01:02
rawrnesshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bQM5r-_8aw01:03
dragonflysevenWill flash 9 be in 6.10? Probably not...01:03
dragonflysevenOh well.01:03
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mikejende: yea i called it alpha my b01:03
archangel_still nothing01:03
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archangel_sorry got to go01:03
mikejende:  it works great, finally i can visit hose flash 9 sites lol01:04
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LjL!flash901:04
dvayanujende: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.so [/opt/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] 01:04
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)01:04
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ubuntuhi01:04
mluser-workis there a 'rc.local' or 'local.start' type file that I can add stuff to happen at boot time?01:04
LeeJunFanI didn't even know it was available. I've been working 18 hr days the last 4 days :(01:04
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ubuntumy god01:05
ubuntuthis is the first time, i use kubuntu, and i am a little lost01:05
dragonflyseveneightteen hours a day= not very much fun01:05
jendearchangel_: I need the ooutput of the given command01:05
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dragonflysevenubuntu: any questions?01:05
birgelots of01:05
dragonflysevenbirge: any questions?01:05
dragonflysevenSuch as?01:06
birgehow to set keyboard to hungarian01:06
rawrnesscontrol panel01:06
rawrnessunder k menu keyboards01:06
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yamalmluser-work: in /etc01:07
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mluser-workyamal: thanks.. I found it :)01:07
pointwoodfirst impression of edgy: ohh...shiny :D01:07
magicmikeYo jende. I had Ubuntu installed before instead of Kubuntu. Now I have Kubuntu installed. I liked the Firefox, and Gaim which isn't on this. Can it be installed?01:07
VIKIisnt 1.5 the lastest version of java??01:07
pointwoodlooks more polished than dapper01:07
VIKIjava site is telling me that this version is outdated01:07
jendemagicmike: sure01:07
birgesystem settings?01:07
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dragonflysevenbirge: K Menu, then Settings, then peripherals01:08
rawrnessclick the big k button01:08
rawrnessthats kmenu01:08
rawrnesssee dragonflys thingy01:08
jende!gaim01:08
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.01:08
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dvayanuviki: jdk1.5_0901:08
VIKI909?01:08
VIKImine is 0601:08
dvayanuviki: thats still ok01:09
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dvayanuviki: and the problem is?01:09
birgeyep01:09
VIKIim trying to acess a webchat01:09
dragonflysevenThis is completely off topic: I am trying to become addicted to IRC, but I don't know of any interesting channels. Does anyone have any suggestions?01:09
dvayanuyou need the plugin01:09
VIKIbut the pop up window with the java plugin will never pop up01:09
dvayanuviki: you installed the plugin?01:10
VIKIaccording to java test page, yes01:10
dragonflysevenOh, Birge!01:10
VIKICONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!01:10
dragonflysevenIts not peripherals.01:10
jendemagicmike: Hi Mike!I'll be gone in a few mins, but here is what you have to do:Open a console using ALT+F2 and the type at the console-prompt sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox01:10
intelikeydragonflyseven yes.   'do your self a fabour, get a real life, and leave irc to us L-users'01:10
VIKIopera might be blocking the pop up01:11
dragonflysevenIt is KMenu>Settings>Regional and Accesibility> keyboard01:11
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birgeok, i am a total newbie... a windows user, fed up with windows, and want to change01:11
dvayanuviki: dont know anything about opera :-)01:11
VIKIoh01:11
VIKIright01:11
dragonflysevenbirge: yep, I did the same thing a few months ago.01:11
VIKIopera was blocking the pop up01:11
T3hWiz0rdbirge: lol you just made this sound like an introductory session of Windows Rehab or something :-P01:11
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dragonflysevenintelikey: but real lives are boring!01:12
morphishbirge: kubuntu seems to be a nice distro for "switchers"01:12
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T3hWiz0rd"Hi my names bill. Outlook made me strangle my wife." "HI BILL!"01:12
VIKII installed automatix is it better or worse than Adept?01:12
LjL!automatix01:12
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!01:12
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LjLautomatix has nothing to do with adept01:12
LjL!adept01:12
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:12
LjLplease don't use automatix01:12
VIKIwhy?01:12
dvayanuwhyn ot?01:12
birgelol01:12
intelikeydragonflyseven it's not the life. it's the person living it.01:12
LjLbecause it breaks.01:12
T3hWiz0rdis aptitude ever going to be finallized?01:12
T3hWiz0rd!aptitude01:12
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide01:12
jende...and its not supported01:13
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mikejende: what were u telling me to do?01:13
LjLjende: yeah, but the factoid already says that ;P01:13
T3hWiz0rdis aptitude gonna replace apt ever?01:13
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cieswow!01:13
ciesthis is a fat channel!01:13
jendemagicmike: is it doing it?01:13
dragonflysevenintelikey: psh. I use linux, i think I gave up on the "real life" thing a while ago. :)01:13
birgeok, so help me rehab01:13
mikehow do i chekc what version of java i am running?01:13
dragonflysevenbirge:01:13
T3hWiz0rdbirge: well what are your questions?01:13
LjLnow that we have auto-dependency-tracking built into APT, i don't care much for aptitude anymore01:13
dragonflysevenhave you installed media codecs?01:14
rcarrmike: java --version01:14
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magicmikeNothing happening.01:14
intelikeyprobobably so so so so so01:14
rcarrmike: java -version, not java --version sorry01:14
ciesi had a lot of issues with 6.10, resulting in giving up on installing (tried 5 times), where can i report bugs?01:14
jendemagicmike: nothing?01:14
LjL!bugs01:14
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:14
dragonflysevenTry Easy Ubuntu (http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/). It is a great way to get most stuff working.01:14
rcarrhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu01:14
LjL!easyubuntu01:15
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.01:15
magicmikeNothing at all. If I type it in the console it says it couldn't find the gaim package.01:15
dragonflysevenIt worked great for me. I wish I had known of it before I started.01:15
jendemagicmike: you have to enable the repos for that01:15
jendemagicmike: is the sources.list still as like as it was earlier today?01:16
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birgemy main question is to sleep, or not to sleep... but i think, you cant help me01:16
magicmikeNo, I installed Kubuntu, earlier I was using Ubuntu.01:16
magicmikeThis has Kate installed. How do I bring up the sources.list in this one?01:17
jendemagicmike: do you remember what we did with the sources?01:17
magicmikeYea, I remember.01:17
morphishbirge: then enjoy a good night's rest, and burn the CD you downloaded while you slept, and run the "Desktop CD" so you can see if you like it, if you do, start xchat there, and be ready SHOULD questions arise after clicking "Install" on desktop01:17
jendemagicmike: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:17
dragonflysevenbirge: sleep is silly. when you think about it, typing doesnt take much engery at all.01:17
birgethx01:18
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morphishbirge: sleep is important because our IQ drops a lot if we don't sleep ;)01:18
intelikeydragonflyseven as to the question, one true bit of advice. pick a topic that you really like. and avoid it in irc channel names.    i.e. if you like linux stay away from ##linux     cause it has been my exp. that channels with the name of your favorite subject will pretty much turn you against it....    (end off topic broad cast)01:18
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T3hWiz0rdso much easier to read.01:19
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sorush20how do I start the kde print server?01:19
jmichaelxis it still discouraged to ask questions about edgy in this channel? :-D01:19
sorush20I keep getting the message that it is not started..01:19
sorush20I don't think edgy is going to be that edgy..01:19
jendejmichaelx: wouldn't say so01:19
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jmichaelxgood....01:20
mikei have a java game that just hung and i cant quite it any ideas?01:20
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T3hWiz0rdedgy will run fine i reckon.01:20
intelikeykill it01:20
T3hWiz0rdI look forward to seeing it.01:20
intelikeymike killall <name>01:20
mikeintelikey: how do i kill it01:20
mikeintelikey: i am not sure of the name01:20
jendebrb01:20
intelikeymike ps -A x01:20
birgeok, i am a bit tired, and slow by now, after a day long work, but i dont want to go to bed, until my keyboard is hungarian, so help me, and i will stop disturbing you with noob questions01:21
jendeb01:21
intelikeymike anything with java or jre might work  cause killall will kill the named + all children01:21
MetaMorfoziSby'all01:22
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jendeMetaMorfoziS: bye01:22
jendemagicmike: where are you?01:22
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mikeintelikey: y eai just tried kill all java nd it worked01:22
birgei found a regional&accessibility menu... is it good?01:22
mikeintelikey:  can u help me get this java game not to hang when i try and play it?01:22
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jendebirge: yep01:22
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mikerawrness: u just like changing names dont u01:23
magicmikeRight here.01:23
rawrnessyup01:23
magicmikeFinished editing.01:23
jendemagicmike: are you working on your sources.list?01:23
magicmikeI saved it already.01:23
jendemagicmike: pastebin it just to make sure everything is fine01:23
birgegood news? what is the next step?01:23
intelikeymike example; killall /bin/sh       if you had a shell script that hung something but you didn't know what.     and yes  killall java    in your case.     but as to your Q. no. i don't do java nor windows.01:24
rcarrIf you have multiple instances of a program runningg and only want to kill one, run ps -A | grep processname01:25
rcarrand record the pid, then use kill pid01:25
rcarrrather than killall01:25
rcarrjust a useful note01:25
mikeintelikey:  i am not on windows01:25
jendebirge: is hungaria in there?01:25
magicmikehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27588/01:25
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intelikeyrcarr why not   kill `pidof blah`01:26
birgewhere exactly?01:26
jendemagicmike: well done!01:26
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jendemagicmike: now do in the consoole again a sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox01:27
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jendebirge:I'll open it...hold on01:27
birgek01:27
birgethx01:27
jendebirge: add language01:27
rcarrintelikey: Because that still doesn't help if you have multiple instances and only want to kill one01:27
intelikeyjende don't mean to but in, but did he/she apt-get update ?01:28
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birgeyepp.. i added hungarian, and kubuntu became hungarian01:28
birgebut i still cant type hungarian letters01:28
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magicmikehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27589/01:28
dragonflysevenbirge: did you go to the Keyboard Layout settings?01:28
JosefKmagicmike: ps -ef | grep dpkg | wc -l01:28
birgeyepp01:29
jendemagicmike: you forgot, as we did it earlier, and as intelikey just mentioned to do your sudo apt-get update.01:29
JosefKmagicmike: if > 0, mercilessly slaughter dpkg processes01:29
tom__ok i have finily got the newest version unbuntu how do i install the java plug in for fire fox01:29
dragonflysevenHmmm... Have you restarted?01:29
intelikeyrcarr multi-processes with same name.... who would know which to kill anyway.  but that's niether here nor there.   sudo kill -9 -1     will get it.01:29
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JosefKintelikey: ptree usually helps01:29
intelikeypstree ^01:30
jendebirge: in the installation process you got asked what keyboard and stuff you're using what did you say as an answer?01:30
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JosefKintelikey: pfft, ptree on solaris ^^01:30
birgeno, because i only use live..01:30
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birgei dont want to install  until i know it well01:30
jendemagicmike: is kate still open?01:30
sorush20I can't print the test pages I keep getting the message that A print error occurred. Error message received from system:01:30
sorush20Unable to start child print process. The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running.01:30
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Noob1!java > Noob101:31
jendebirge: well than you have to live with english keyboard layout01:31
intelikeydid birge just say he was never going to install linux ???01:31
magicmikehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27591/01:31
dragonflysevenHey! I can stop trying to set up network printing! I just realized Edgy is coming out in six days, and since I am reinstalling then anyway I shouldnt bother with anything?01:31
birgewow01:31
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birgei found it01:31
magicmikeNo. But I can open it.01:31
birgeof course, i want to install linux, but first i want to learn about it01:32
Noob1how can i tell what version of unbuntu im running01:32
birgeand my father uses this computer too, and he is useless even in windows... but i will teach him;)01:32
jendemagicmike: hehe...pastebin me yoour sources.list01:32
Brydenn33:)01:32
jendemagicmike: don't have to01:33
dragonflysevenbirge: remember you can dual boot if you want.01:33
jendemagicmike: still have yours here01:33
birgei know01:33
intelikeybirge heh no offence inteneded,   just a joke about "knowing linux well"     who does ?     not i.01:33
birge:)01:33
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coreymon77wow01:34
coreymon77its still setting up stuff01:34
jendemagicmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27594/01:35
coreymon77this has been going on for close to an hour01:35
magicmikeOkay.01:35
rawrnesswhats  AIGLX01:35
birgei am so proud of me:D01:35
intelikeycoreymon77 common01:35
rawrness! AIGLX01:35
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.01:35
jendemagicmike: delete all the US thingys in there as I've posted01:35
birgeand thx for the help01:35
birgenow i go to sleep01:35
dragonflysevenbirge: bye01:35
coreymon77intellikey: im not kidding01:35
intelikeynn coreymon77 you misread me.01:36
birgegoodnight01:36
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coreymon77???01:36
intelikeybirge gooday01:36
jendecoreymon77: that ca happen, depending on how many packages needs to be downloaded01:36
jendecoreymon77: and configured and installed01:36
intelikeycoreymon77 you're installing what ?01:37
coreymon77edgy01:37
coreymon77from dapper01:37
intelikeyand it's been configuring things for an hour.   that's common.01:37
jendeintelikey: coreymon77 is upgrading from dapper to edgy, AFAIK01:37
birgegoodday? At Hungary it's 01:37 AM....01:37
ubuntuheya, 1st time on kubuntu here01:37
ubuntunot on linux though01:37
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dragonflysevenbirge: we are americentric.01:38
dragonflysevenIts not our fault, we were raised that way.01:38
birgei see:D01:38
dragonflyseven:D01:38
coreymon77it started the setting up process (downloading took a while too, but was done already) at 6:3501:38
jendedragonflyseven: and I'm quite eurocentric...;-)01:38
jmichaelxcould anyone tell me why my internal hard drives do not show up in konqueror or krusader in kubuntu edgy?01:38
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intelikeyjende we wont hold that against you :)01:38
magicmikeI still get that unable to unlock message.01:39
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vn-I saw someone switching of desktop with some simple move and it<s like a cube in 3d, rotation...I think the name is XGL, can I use that in the default kubuntu livecd^01:39
jendeintelikey: thannks mate!01:39
vn-?01:39
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jendemagicmike: reboot01:39
magicmikeOkay.01:39
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coreymon77what the01:40
intelikeyvn- on the live....  not the best of ideas.  but possable i suppose.01:40
dragonflysevenjende: Europe is stupid. Everything cool comes from america. Like Linux and Ubuntu.01:40
coreymon77guys01:40
coreymon77problem01:40
vn-why so?01:40
LjLdragonflyseven: like... Linux?01:40
vn-isn<t linux coming from Finland, which is in Europe^01:41
intelikeydragonflyseven linux came from sweden01:41
vn-?01:41
vn-LOL01:41
intelikeyor norway01:41
jendedragonflyseven: oh...I thought that linus torvalds is from finland01:41
LjLintelikey: finland01:41
dragonflyseveneveryone: I was kidding. I am not an idiot.01:41
vn-Helsinki01:41
vn-finland01:41
coreymon77major problem01:41
dragonflysevenIt was finland.01:41
coreymon77look at this01:41
LjLdragonflyseven: alrighty :)01:41
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27595/01:41
dragonflysevenAnd Ubuntu is south africa.01:41
intelikeyLjL it's all viking country to me...01:41
vn-but uhm where am I supposed to get this 3d cubic desktop thingy in the livecd?01:41
jendedragonflyseven: wrong Ubunutu is a circus01:42
coreymon77guys01:42
dragonflysevenvn: that is kind of complicated.01:42
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coreymon77can you look at that and tell me what the matter is?01:42
coreymon77http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27595/01:42
dragonflysevenDoes anyone know of an .iso that has XGL/Compiz pre-installed?01:42
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vn-dragonflyseven: but it<s easy if I install it?01:43
jendewww.ubuntu.de <- esp for dragonflyseven01:43
LjLdragonflyseven: kororaa. not ubuntu though01:43
Hawkwindcoreymon77: That on Dapper or Edgy ?01:43
Hawkwindkororaa is no longer maintained either and they took all their ISO's offline here not long ago. Not sure if they put them back01:43
jendeHawkwind: he is on edgy--trying to upgrade AFAIK01:44
coreymon77hawkind, i just did apt-get dist-upgrade01:44
dragonflysevenvn: I am not sure how easy it is. It is harder with KDE than GNOME. At least it was...01:44
magicmikeBack.01:44
coreymon77but havent restarted yet01:44
jendemagicmike: now open the console01:44
coreymon77so what is it01:44
dragonflysevenjende: um, that is odd.01:45
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coreymon77apt-get dist upgrade has run01:45
vn-anyway ubuntu looks so easy01:45
coreymon77but i havent restarted01:45
vn-compared to what it was 2 years ago01:45
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jendemagicmike: and do a sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox01:45
coreymon77i do install kubuntu-desktop as part of the command01:45
coreymon77and thats what it gives me01:45
dragonflysevenvn: I wouldn't know, but I have heard it was really hard.01:45
magicmikeShouldn't I do that update first?01:45
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coreymon77hawkind? whats the problem here?01:46
jendemagicmike: sure, I'll let you think a bit now as well01:46
vn-I guess the best way to know is to try!01:46
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jendemagicmike: and it works, which is good01:46
LjL!xgl01:46
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:46
coreymon77hawkwind?01:46
Hawkwindcoreymon77: No idea.  Try asking in #Ubuntu+1 since you're now running Edgy and that is the Edgy channel01:46
rat_HEEELO01:47
vn-oh01:47
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magicmikeSame message as before.01:47
vn-so XGL is still alpha01:47
jendemagicmike: okay01:47
vn-it seems to work so well01:47
peacekpranyone have any idea why i can't hear any sound upon one reboot?01:47
jendemagicmike: cd /etc/apt01:47
dragonflysevenWell, of to the wonderful world of the real world. Bye all.01:47
coreymon77am i running edgy?01:47
coreymon77cause i havent restarted yet01:47
Hawkwindcoreymon77: If you dist-upgraded after changing your sources.list, then yes01:48
archangel_hey, how does one with linux connect via dialup with aol? I have a buddy that will make the switch, but needs the net via dialup.01:48
jendemagicmike: are you there01:48
Hawkwindcoreymon77: You probably need to reboot first01:48
peacekpri have a soundblaster card that is recognized by the system, the kernel module snd_emu10k1 is loaded just fine - i have not made any changes between the reboot ... but i reboot and sound no longer works01:48
peacekprit's very strange01:48
magicmikedone01:48
jmichaelxcould anyone tell me why my internal hard drives do not show up in konqueror or krusader in kubuntu edgy?01:48
T3hWiz0rdwhy does the kde crystal theme seem to be so laggy?01:48
intelikeycoreymon77 try booting the newly upgraded and then gripe about all it broke.01:48
jendecoreymon77: I'd probably would give apt-get -f install achance as well as a dpkg-configure --a01:48
jendecoreymon77: before you reboot01:49
coreymon77okay01:49
coreymon77okay01:49
coreymon77thanks01:49
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jendemagicmike: type ls -l and tell me if there sre 2 sources.list's01:49
peacekpri'm running dapper01:49
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jendemagicmike: type ls -l and tell me if there are 2 sources.list's01:49
intelikeypeacekpr cat /proc/asound/cards01:50
peacekpri've read every troubleshooting tutorial that i can find... any suggestions on getting sound to work again?  it worked once before! heh01:50
peacekprintelikey, that returns the VIA chipset and the Soundblaster01:50
intelikeyit may be trying to default to the onboard01:51
peacekpryeah, the onboard is listed is "0" and the SBLive as "1"01:51
peacekprdoes "0" signify default ?01:51
intelikeyset card 1 as default01:51
magicmikeI had the adept updater on. It fetched the updates. Should I apply them?01:51
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jendemagicmike: well, yes...but then quit adept01:52
peacekprintelikey, what command do i use to set card 1 as default ?01:52
intelikeyunless adjusted everything defalts to 0  afaik01:52
jendemagicmike: and do it from the console, okay01:52
intelikeypeacekpr hmmmm what if i say 'i don't know' ?01:53
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magicmikeI was. That's probably why it was locked.01:53
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jendemagicmike: not probably; definitely01:53
magicmikeTryinfg to be an admin in 2 places.01:53
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jendemagicmike: shouldn't confuse you...hehehe01:54
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peacekprintelikey, i'd be bummed - heh01:54
magicmikeLOL. Not hard to do.01:54
pointwoodfdoving: thanks for the help solving my problems - if you ever come to Aarhus, I'll buy you a beer ;)01:54
jendemagicmike: so, the updates are running?01:54
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magicmikeThe one in adept is about half done.01:55
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rat_LOL01:55
intelikeypeacekpr sound is not where i play around really.   maybe someone else can tell you the "easy" way to set the card1 as the default alsa output01:55
jendemagicmike: good...now grab yourself a beer in the meantime01:55
intelikeysomeone ?01:55
jendeintelikey: I'm not into sound nor multimedia either01:56
intelikeysomeone else ?01:56
jende!2soundcards01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 2soundcards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
jende!2 soundcards01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 2 soundcards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
intelikey!sound01:56
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:56
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magicmikeAlready knocked down several glasses of Merlot!. How else do you think I could come back for more of this torture. ROFLMAO01:57
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rat_PROBLEMS WITH CAPS LOCK ON REMOTE DESKTOP TO UBUNTU01:57
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intelikeyrat_ maybe press  [ctrl] +[SysRQ] +[R]   then try it.01:59
Shyne_!bluetooth01:59
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup01:59
rat_ERM GOT NO SYSRQ DUDE02:00
jendepeacekpr: maybe that thingy helps; haven't read it but google said its good02:00
jendepeacekpr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27397202:00
jendemagicmike: hello???where is my wine?02:01
magicmikeGive me your address and I'll ship it to ya!02:01
jendemagicmike: hehehe02:01
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rat_hahaha classic sorted it02:01
intelikey!info wine02:01
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB02:01
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rat_you loverly people02:02
jendemagicmike: I'd like to have it now...well so I'll grab me a beer instead02:02
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jendebrb02:02
magicmikeAlways need some for later.02:02
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rat_magners n ice ummmmm02:03
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archangel_anyone know how to import pics to the ipod using amarok?02:03
bertha!es02:03
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:03
jendeintelikey: thanky for that sort of "wine"02:04
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intelikey:)02:04
magicmikeHey don't get him too drunk now.02:04
jendemagicmike: cheeeeeers02:05
witerainlet me in02:05
rat_in were02:05
jendewiterain: in where???02:05
witerainsomewhere in us02:05
jendewiterain: they wont let you in...hehehe02:06
magicmikeIf only there were some Ganja or hashish to top it all off.....02:06
witerainhehe02:06
jendemagicmike: pssssssssssssst.....02:06
intelikeyjust swim the river.   every one else does.02:06
witerainbeer is not enough ah.02:06
jendemagicmike: how afr are we?02:07
jendemagicmike: how far are we?02:07
rat_beer is great02:07
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rat_its the only thing u need02:07
witeraincompere to them...hmm02:07
magicmikeew ear otn taht raf. LOL02:07
witerainok..cool..cuz..thats the only thing to m02:07
jenderat_: it#s got to be german or australian beer; a guinness is still alright02:07
magicmikeWe are not that far.02:07
coreymon77ooh!02:08
coreymon77new konversations really nice02:08
witerainwell...02:08
coreymon77!02:08
witerainguiness in the frig..02:08
magicmike90%02:08
jendecoreymon77: you've got beer??02:08
witeraindam..good..02:08
magicmikeGuinness _Brilliant! LOL02:08
witerainone in my hand others in frig02:08
jendewiterain: be qquiet now, please02:09
witeraindo you guys seriousely think guiness make one drunk?02:09
magicmikeDone.02:09
jendewiterain: not, if you add cidre to it02:09
jendemagicmike: close adept02:09
magicmikedone02:09
jendemagicmike: open the console02:09
jendemagicmike: and now?02:10
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jendemagicmike: tell me02:10
chill3rahhhhhhhhhhh thats betta02:10
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peacekprintelikey, jende: FYI, to get sound working in XMMS, i went into the Plugins section and clicked "Configure" for the ALSA Output plugin.  I selected a different sound card (hw:1,0) and XMMS now plays my music .... all of the drivers, etc are loaded properly02:11
coreymon77the edgy konversation is really nice!02:11
jendemagicmike: remember what is next?02:11
rawrness!beryl02:11
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.02:11
peacekprso that seems to be proof that alsa isn't using the correct card for default sound... i had to tell XMMS to use card 1 instead of 002:11
magicmikeOkay sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox02:11
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jendemagicmike: yes!!!02:11
jendemagicmike: do it02:12
magicmikedone02:12
jenderawrness: beryl is still in Pre-Alpha02:12
rawrnessfun02:12
magicmikeHow do I get evolution?02:12
witerainwhy my amork is not wokring..02:12
rawrnesscasue it hates you02:13
jendemagicmike: so has it installed gaim and firefox?02:13
rawrnesshow is it not working02:13
witerainho..ho..02:13
witerain i think so..02:13
magicmikeYup. It shows in the menu02:13
witerainif i clik one mp3 file.02:13
jendemagicmike: happy now?02:13
rawrnessit don't play?02:13
witerainit immediately go over.02:13
BonBonTheJonwiterain: you need to install support for mp3s02:13
jendewiterain: you may want to install libxine-extracodecs02:14
witerainhow would i get it?.(sorry.im newbie)02:14
rawrness!w32codecs02:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:14
jende!libxine-extracodecs02:14
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB02:14
BonBonTheJonwiterain: install libxine-extracodecs02:14
jendewiterain: so you have to modify your sources.list02:14
magicmikeNot yet. Gotta check to see if I can play mp3's like I was earlier in Ubuntu. Think I'll need to install the extracodecs?02:14
witerainthnks..i will try right away..02:14
witerainhold on..02:14
jendemagicmike: yes02:14
jendesudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:15
jendewiterain: your sources.list needs definitely a modification02:15
magicmikeI knew that. LOL02:15
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intelikeypeacekpr "correct" in your case is the one you want it to use,   we can hardly call that a fault in alsa.   suppose you had wanted it to use the first card it found.... it would have been function "correctly" already.     but at any rate glad you found it. :)02:16
jendewiterain: do that: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:16
jendewiterain: and then pastebin t02:17
jende!paste02:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:17
peacekprintelikey, well ... this is half the battle.  it works in XMMS, but I want it to work by default for all sound-using applications02:17
witeraini am following..02:17
intelikeypeacekpr i don't want to delve into it, but; there is also a way to tell linux to ignore the onborad card altogather.   /etc/modprob.d/  or something like that.02:18
jendewiterain: have you opened the sources in kate?02:18
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witerainyes,,but i cant see nothting02:18
intelikeyblacklist it.02:18
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jendewiterain: close that!02:19
witeraini got it..02:19
witerainnow i opened it02:19
jendewiterain: okay02:19
intelikeynothing is awfully hard to see isn't it.02:19
jendewiterain: now just paste it to pastebin02:20
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witerainwell..i dont know what should i add to it02:20
jende!paste02:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:20
witerainfrom where to where02:20
witerainall of it?02:20
jendewiterain: you're not adding as yet anything, first just pastebin it02:20
magicmikeYo jende. You 'DA Man! I got mp3 jamming and I got evolution too. Thanks.02:20
intelikeypeacekpr there is also a way to tell kde which card to call default    kcontrol  should help there02:21
jendewiterain: sure, all of it.mark it say copy there open pastebin and paste it there02:21
jendemagicmike: you're welcome02:21
magicmikeI still don't have a printer and I don't have my cam or newsreader but that's a prob for a different day.02:21
witerainis pastbin command02:22
jendewiterain: !pastebin02:22
magicmikeLike the song says. Don't Worry, Be Happy.02:22
jende!pastebin02:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:22
intelikeyleft click highlight ... middle (both on two but mouse) click paste02:22
peacekprintelikey, yeah... i've had kcontrol settings to ALSA with emu10k1 selected all along02:22
magicmikeI appreciate you sticking around longer than you had planned.02:22
jendewiterain:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:22
peacekpri just wonder what made the system select the onboard audio card all of a sudden02:23
jendemagicmike: thats okay02:23
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intelikeypeacekpr i couldn't say.  not my box.    logs might show what changed.  /etc/log/*02:24
jendewiterain: done that?If so whats URL to have a look at it?02:25
archangel_anyone have an ipod?02:25
peacekpri'm going to try a reboot just to see what happens02:25
peacekpr:)02:25
peacekprbrb02:25
jendewiterain: ???02:26
witerainjende..i have open up the site you showed me..and it said just web..show i past something on there?02:26
archangel_anyone know how to exchange pics on an ipod?02:27
jendewiterain: you should have quite leftish a box and above that it says Paste something02:27
jendewiterain: in there paste the copied sources.list02:28
jendewiterain: then say paste and it gives you the URL02:28
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jendewiterain: have that?02:29
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jende_witerain: shouldn't take you that long02:31
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peacekprintelikey: revision of alsa.conf to use card 1 was successful02:31
witerainhoho....02:31
peacekprjust FYI02:31
chill3ru there jed02:31
witerainsince i am such a supid...sorry..jende..02:32
intelikeypeacekpr k i will make a note of that one.  thank you.02:32
witerainhold on...02:32
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witerainactually..the thing i have to do is add something on my update list...,02:32
witerainname is source.list.02:32
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witerainam i right>02:33
jende_witerain: didn't you say that you follow me?02:33
mkarahi all I am new here02:33
jende_witerain: thats wrong!02:33
intelikey/etc/apt/sources.list02:33
jende_witerain: /etc/apt/sources.list02:33
witerainyeah...i open up the source.list.02:33
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witerainthere is some what...list..02:34
intelikey:)02:34
jende_witerain: s o u r c e s .... not source02:34
witerainyeah.i know so i re open it..^^02:35
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witerainwaiting for command..02:36
mkaraI have a "su" problem in Edgy rc1. It sometimes accepts the password but sometimes denies saying "failed su in KDE" or something like that02:36
jende_witerain: now you see a file with quite few lines ?02:37
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witerainyes sir02:37
Hawkwindmkara: Have you tried #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel ?02:37
mkaraNo. I have come here bec I have Kubuntu Edgy rc102:38
jende_witerain: ifine, so just mark the lot, say copy, open the pastebin and paste it in the box02:38
intelikeymkara also of note.  testing sudo is as simple as typing    sudo echo working!     in a konsole.02:38
Hawkwindmkara: #Ubuntu+1 is the Edgy channel for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.  This channel is really for Dapper support since Edgy isn't final yet02:39
mkarahmm. thanks for info.02:39
witerainso past http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in there?02:39
mkaralater.02:40
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jende_witerain: yes02:40
jende_witerain: whats the URL?02:42
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intelikeydon't rush him.    i expect the url in the next five minutes............02:43
intelikey:)02:43
jende_intelikey: time to grab me a coffee or so02:43
intelikeyyeah.02:43
jende_intelikey: wanna have one, too02:43
intelikey me to dcc you another wine ???  :)02:44
jende_yep02:44
intelikeylol02:44
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jende_witerain: would you mind telling me, why it takes you ages to paste a file in a box and simpy post the URL in here?02:45
jende_witerain: its 2.45am02:45
witerainsorry...i am figureing....actully, i paste it to the box..02:46
intelikeyi never did get how you guys could drink rodao beer.     but i don't care for the taste of it cold so hot is even less desireable to me.02:46
witerainit is nothgin but just copy........i dont know how to get the url..02:46
witerainit should have nbeen02:46
witerainsorry...02:46
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intelikeywiterain you get the url from the next page.02:47
intelikeywhen you post that copy the page will change and show you the url to give us.02:47
jende_witerain: you submit your paste by saying paste,which is that box below the textbox02:47
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witerainis this like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27609/?02:47
witerainno?02:48
jende_witerain: veauty, thats what we need02:48
jende_witerain: beauty, thats what we need02:48
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witerainu serious?02:49
Lam_800 MHz / 256 MB.  XFCE or KDE?02:49
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intelikeysome times witerain.... some times.02:49
intelikeyLam_ anything you like.02:49
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intelikeyeven gnome02:49
Lam_i like kde better than gnome02:50
jende_witerain: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27610/02:50
Lam_but it's more for my computer illiterate friend02:50
intelikeywasn't my point but, ok.02:50
Lam_i'll probably do KDE since it seems more like windows and would be less confusing02:50
jende_witerain: what you should do is that: print the modified sources.list02:50
Lam_thanks02:50
intelikeynp02:50
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witeraini copyed it02:51
jende_I hope that the sources.list, you've posted is still open in kate02:51
jende_witerain: N O!!!02:51
witerainsure02:51
witerainwhat no?02:51
jende_witerain: don't copy it02:51
witerainno i copy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27609/ to my soucrec.lst02:52
jende_witerain: you don't copy anything at all at this point02:52
intelikeyjende_ i don't think..... ummm never mind now.02:52
witerainno?..02:52
witeraini take it bake02:52
witerainwaiting02:52
jende_can you print he modified sources.list?02:53
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jende_can you print the modified sources.list?02:53
mkaraHi again people.02:54
witeraincan i ask....modified from where02:54
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mkaraCan someone please tell me if it is possible to connect to a wireless network via a usb adapter on Kubuntu? if so, how?02:55
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jende_witerain: here is the modofied sources.list for you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27610/02:55
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witerainoh..well..02:56
witerainso sould i past it to...02:56
jende_mkara: it is possibel, but make sure that you get a USB which is supported by Linux02:56
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jende_witerain: I did say print it02:57
jende_witerain: I didn't say paste for a real good reason02:57
mkarait has no linux driver but they say it can be used with ndiswrapper02:57
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BonBonTheJonmkara: I have had good luck with atheros chips02:57
jende_mkara: have fun02:57
witerainyes...02:57
jende_witerain: so just pprint it if its possible02:58
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jende_mkara: you're with edgy?02:58
mkarayes02:58
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jende_mkara: be careful with USB02:59
mkarabut not right now bec I am not able to connect to internet on edgy02:59
morphishmkara: a wireless adapter to linux is just that, if usb, pcmcia or pci is not so much important as having the right driver, my bcm4318 in my amd64 laptop only works with ndiswrapper, just like any other wireless adapter, i just can't give you kubuntu specific answer02:59
intelikeyi'd reject it just on general principal and be vocal about it.   "no! i won't buy your product. BECAAUSE YOU DON'T SUPPORT OPEN SOURCE!!!   GET IT ?"    and go find something that was supported.02:59
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intelikeybut that's just me.03:00
mkara:)03:00
Ash-FoxAck, gam_server is taking 100% cpu, and killing it just restarts it03:00
morphishmkara: if you can exchange the usb wifi stick, the hawkings tech USB 54g stick worked for me both on ppc and armeb cpus, using the zd1211 driver, just a thought03:00
jende_we had in the last 48hrs several unsolveable issues in here with wlan chipsets; such as atheros and TI acx series03:00
intelikeymarketers do get the clue-by-four up side the head, if you make it plain enough.03:01
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mikehttp://guidetolinux.wetpaint.com/03:01
jende_morphish: on edgy?03:01
mikeanyone here have lots of free time03:01
jende_all issues were with edgy NOT dapper03:02
morphishjende_: i run edgy for two days or so, i usually run source based distros, but didn't feel like dealing with compiling on a duron 1.3GHz, so sorry, no, i was commenting basically merely on drivver support in linux , especially since i recently saw the zd1211 pop up in the kernel sources03:02
intelikeymike.  yeah  but you wont get any of it.  that's why i have some.....  :)03:02
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jende_morphish: have you made an apt-get update && dist-upgrade since? If not, my advice is:DON'T03:04
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mkaraActually the adapter was working on Pardus ( a distro from Turkey ) with ndiswrapper but I couldnt use it bec It didnt support wpa-psk encription. is it supported on kubuntu dapper or edgy ?03:05
jende_mp03:05
morphishjende_: um, i have not, but this flashy thing in the systray i hae answered, not knowing the tools yet, i am afraid it is similar to what you just typed out, last night there were 323 packages, and today 45 or so, why, what did i break?03:05
BonBonTheJonmkara: what adapter is it03:05
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BonBonTheJonmkara: what chipset03:05
mkaraAirTies WUS20003:05
LjLjende_: why dist-upgrade bad?03:05
intelikeymorphish if it didn't break anything, don't worry about it.03:06
jende_morphish: basically, there were some major changes which fdoving and I figured out today03:06
morphishthat reminds me i had this cpi wifi adapter, works out of the box, i mean, module is loaded and eth1 is in both ifconfig and iwconfig03:06
morphishjende_: well i have not rebooted yet, is it something that affects booting? (X restarted fine, didn't see a need to reboot though)03:07
jende_thing is as long as the box runs, we discovered, everything is for some reasons still fine; once you reboot it some, basically most in here today had to downgrade to get there wifi back to live03:07
BonBonTheJonmkara: if you get ndiswrapper working, you can add support for wpa-psk03:07
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mkarahow?03:08
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morphishjende_: oh, ok, good, i am not depending on wifi :)03:08
BonBonTheJon!wpa03:08
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:08
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mkaraI dont have internet connection on Kubuntu yet03:08
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morphishi just slapped the adapter in in case i decide to go headless and put the box in the garage03:08
jende_morphish: some were and havent understood that edgy isn't yet in stable and were disappointed03:09
mkara:/topic #kubuntu03:09
intelikeyhmmmm i have updates in dapper too.....    libksba8 xinit03:09
mikecan somone help me write a linux wiki here: http://guidetolinux.wetpaint.com03:09
intelikey2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:09
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intelikeywonder if that will break xinit  or not.....03:09
morphishintelikey: time to find out!03:10
jende_intelikey: as much as I could observe today a upgrade/update on dapper is okay03:10
mkaraOk. I am going to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs . After reading it, I will come back here if I cannot solve the problem. Thanks a lot.03:11
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intelikeyjende_ k.   hehhe was kinka one of those   "i wonder what this button does  {click} <BOOM!>   oh that ! "    :)03:12
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intelikey!wifi03:12
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jende_mates, I'm going to have a bi of a nap now03:13
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ny0nanyone in here good with freebsd?03:13
BonBonTheJonsweet dreams jende_03:13
LjL!offtopic03:13
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:13
intelikeywell i got an "ok 2" on that script so it didn't break any package (or dpkg).03:14
Mezevening all03:17
Mezny0n -> #freebsd03:17
BonBonTheJonhi Mez03:18
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Mezis everybody having fun today? (and using katapult to make the fun quicker?)03:18
LjLhardly ever use katapult03:19
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MezLjL - :(03:19
abattoirMez: katapult rocks ;)03:21
Mezabattoir, thankyou ;)03:21
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LjLdidn't say it doesn't. just said i don't use it.03:22
MezLjL, I know - I read it that way - still a shame you dont use it... is there any reason you dont... ?03:22
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LjLMez: 1) the GUI programs i use the most are just a few, and i've got the Quick Launcher panel applet for that, which even automatically knows which programs i use the most 2) normally i have a console open03:23
excitatoryi pretty much use katapult for kcalc.. heh..03:24
Mez1) planned feature to remember what you use most and 2) yeah, same here, or at least yakuake sitting there03:24
excitatoryi'm trying to remember it knows files too though.03:24
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Mezexcitatory, I mily use it for amarok ;)03:24
MezI've never really used it for files (though I do like the new preview option I coded)03:24
excitatoryamarok is ever-running on this box.03:24
abattoirMez: katapult wasn't fixed to handle the new '.' in amarok? in edgy?03:24
abattoirMez: in the path, that is03:25
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excitatorywell, i restart it after a new svn build.. but that's about it..03:25
Mezabattoir, it's a bit weird, works for some, doesnt for others... I'm fixing it atm actually03:25
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afexheh all, is there anyway to replace the konqueror link on the panel to something else? (namely firefox)03:25
abattoirMez: oh, so the fix won't get into edgy, right?03:25
Mezabbatoir, hopefully...03:26
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BonBonTheJonafex: you can get rid of the konqueror link and put a firefox link03:27
intelikeyhmmmm i just found out that i don't have anyway to close applications in my gui .....   ooops.03:27
troyargh! pity koffice packages are totally busted for amd64...03:28
afexBonBonTheJon: how do i go about doing that? thanks.03:28
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intelikeyi guess i can open an xterm and issue a killall on them.  but there should be a button....03:28
BonBonTheJonafex: you should be able to right click on it and do remove03:28
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afexBonBonTheJon: awesome, found it.  thanks.  didn't realize there was a context menu there03:29
BonBonTheJonafex: then right click and you can add a link03:29
Jucatointelikey: Ctrl+Alt+Esc don't work?03:29
intelikeyafex  kde== right click everything.03:29
intelikeyJucato no.  twm.03:29
Jucatoaah...03:30
intelikeyhey i can turn it on tho....03:30
Jucato:P03:30
intelikeyJucato ty that pointed the right dirrection.03:30
jmichaelxi added "/dev/hdb1    /media/linux ext3  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0" to the end of my /etc/fstab in an attempt to get my kubuntu hard drive to mount and show up in konqueror, but it doesn't work. could anyone tell me what i need to change?03:31
intelikeyjmichaelx extfs doesn't do psiudo permissions03:33
jmichaelxok, what should i change?03:33
intelikeyi.e. umask and ext are mutually exclusive03:33
jmichaelxahh03:33
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Jucatointelikey: they are?03:33
intelikeyman mount03:33
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jmichaelxok.... i should remove umask and probably change ext3 to ext2fs?03:34
intelikeyumask is a dosfs thing.   msdos vfat ntfs   because there is no permissions bit on those file systems mount sets a vertual permissions bit.  the *mask.03:35
Jucatovfat, ntfs, and hfs to be exact03:35
jmichaelxhow about those 2 zeros at the end?03:35
intelikeymsdos also iirc03:35
intelikeyfloppy disks03:36
jmichaelxi am just trying to work around a bug in edgy... that being that /etc/fstab is not configured properly03:36
intelikeyjmichaelx the two trailing goose eggs are needed.03:36
Jucatowell msdos and fat have the same options, it seems03:37
jmichaelxok ty03:37
intelikeyJucato yep03:37
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jmichaelxok, does "/dev/hdb1    /media/linux ext2fs  nls=utf8 0    0" look like something reasonable?03:38
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intelikeyJucato for all practical purposes msdos fs is depreciated you can mount it as vfat every thing from fat12 through fat32 can be mounted vfat03:39
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afexdo i need to jump through any hoops to get audio working? the my system info detects both my onboard sound and sound blaster live! card but i'm not sure if there is anything else ineed to do03:39
jmichaelxnevermind, i think i have this figured out03:40
Jucatofat12? isn't that fat16?03:40
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intelikeyJucato no.  fat12 fat16 fat16-e fat3203:40
Jucatoaaah03:40
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federico_hello, I need help03:41
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intelikeyJucato it was 32m max size iirc.03:41
federico_what shoul I install xlg or 3ddesk?03:41
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intelikeyJucato there was an fat8  hehhe prolly not in your life time tho  :)03:42
Jucatolol03:42
federico_ayudenme cono03:42
BonBonTheJon!xgl03:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:43
BonBonTheJonfederico_: ^^^03:43
max0_hi, how do you turn on the dropdown menu from the taskbars transparancy on in KDE03:43
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virtexHello everyone03:44
BonBonTheJonhi virtex03:44
federico_the thing is that it seems a little complicated to install it03:44
intelikeysorry i missed this. <jmichaelx> ok.... i should remove umask and probably change ext3 to ext2fs? <--- no if it is ext3 mount it as ext3   the alternative would be ext2 btw not ext2fs03:44
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federico_I am a new linux user03:44
jmichaelxty intelikey03:44
BonBonTheJonfederico_: xgl is still in alpha, it might be a little too much work for a beginner03:45
virtexi got a two questions if someones not too busy, i'm also not in a huge hurry right at the moment03:45
rawrnessI can sware a flash guide to setting up would be a great project03:45
BonBonTheJonvirtex: just ask the question03:45
intelikeyjmichaelx again if you want an individual to notice your posts, prepend their nick.  it gets attention.   *high lights*03:46
max0_BonBonTheJon: when does XGL come out of alpha? do you know03:46
BonBonTheJonfederico_: if you want to try #ubuntu-xgl03:46
BonBonTheJonmax0_: no, I don't use it, my graphics card isnt powerful enough03:46
virtexyea the usual... lol :) i downloaded some software from sourceforge, for converting video to psp format, but there appears to be no make command so the install.sh fails... any idea ?03:46
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max0_does anyone know when XGL will come out of alpha?03:47
intelikey!b-e > virtex03:47
federico_ummm... so if it is complicated for me... should I try 3ddesk?03:47
virtexThanks :)03:47
BonBonTheJonfederico_: 3ddesk is a lot easier03:48
peacekprintelikey: thanks again for the help03:48
intelikeyvirtex also of note.  you might want to check the repos for a deb package of the same    i.e.  apt-cache search blah03:48
virtexyea i haven't really found anything related to the psp at all for linux.03:49
BonBonTheJonintelikey: what is the difference between 'apt-cache search blah' and 'dpkg -l | grep blah'03:49
max0_federico: http://www.freelists.org/archives/3ddesktop-dev/ the dev package for 3ddesk03:49
intelikeypsp - Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime   ????03:49
federico_I download the package (3ddesk) and installed it, but when I try to launch it in the terminal...03:50
federico_3ddesk03:50
federico_Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.03:50
federico_Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.03:50
federico_Server not found after waiting 5 seconds.03:50
federico_Could not find server.03:50
federico_Try starting manually (3ddeskd)03:50
intelikeyBonBonTheJon compare the two and tell me.03:50
virtexvideo convertor for the psp.... PlayStation Portable ;)03:50
Jucato!pastebin03:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:50
BonBonTheJonfederico_: you need to first do '3ddeskd'03:50
JucatoBonBonTheJon: actually running "3ddesk" the first time would start 3ddeskd...03:50
BonBonTheJonintelikey: do you know the difference, or are you wanting to knopw03:51
Jucatohe needs to have 3d accelerated graphics card03:51
Jucatoand the proper drivers for it03:51
intelikeyBonBonTheJon yes03:51
federico_ok... so what should I do?03:51
max0_hi, how do you turn on the dropdown menu from the taskbars transparancy on in KDE03:52
Jucatofederico_: what is your video card? did you install the binary drivers for it?03:52
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federico_good question... is ATI a video card?03:53
Jucatofederico_: yes03:53
Jucato!ati03:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:53
Jucatofederico_: ^^^^^^^^^^03:53
BonBonTheJonintelikey: apt-cache '3ddesktop - "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher'03:54
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BonBonTheJonintelikey: dpkg 'rc  3ddesktop                              0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1                       "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher'03:54
intelikeyBonBonTheJon example;  echo "`apt-cache search bash` *************************************** `dpkg -l | grep bash` " | less     but dpkg -l bash     would work too.03:54
max0_hi, how do you turn on the dropdown menu from the taskbars transparancy on in KDE03:54
federico_ok... give a few minutes to read it03:54
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BonBonTheJonmax0_: what do you mean, please rephrase03:55
max0_how do you run "3ddesktop" from knosole?03:55
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max0_BonBonTheJon: transparency in the dropdown menu(k menu)03:55
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intelikeythis is linux,  there's not a "right" way to do things.  there is your way, my way, and other ways.  but none that is really above the others.  it's all in what you want and how you like to get there.03:56
maziahjust downloaded kubuntu for m laptop, what a dream.. even the wireless works!03:56
Jucatomax0_: I'm not sure it might be in System Settings > Appearance > Style (warning, I'm not 100% sure, I'm not on Linux right now..)03:56
max0_ha, ill try03:57
BonBonTheJonmax0_: i confirm Jucato's tip03:57
intelikeylinux began and has only grown from the desire for "another option"03:57
max0_do you knwo how to run 3ddesktop form a terminal?03:57
BonBonTheJonmax0_: its on the effect tab03:57
max0_thanks BonBon03:57
JucatoBonBonTheJon: I was right? wow03:57
JucatoO_O03:57
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max0_and thanks Jucato for the tip03:58
BonBonTheJonJucato: I just looked it up; you know more than you thought03:58
Jucatolol... residual memory :)03:58
Jucatodarn I really need to get my PC back..03:58
intelikeyJucato face it.  you don't know all you know about kde.03:58
max0_haha03:59
Jucatointelikey: lol03:59
intelikey:)03:59
maziahwho cares what he knows, u should worry about what you know!03:59
max0_intelikey is a smart guy, helped me out with some xorg issues03:59
maziahand if he knows more, good on him!03:59
mkaraHi. I am back with this from the wireless wiki: "If you are using WEP encryption the next box is to set the key type that's set up. Note that you can not set up WPA encryption in a gui enviroment as of Feb 2006 but it is being developed and will come in the future.". Is it still unsupported?03:59
intelikeymaziah did i raddle your cage ?     didn't mean to....04:00
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Jucatomax0_: about 3D Desktop, you can start it even with Alt+F2. the command to start the daemon (which runs in the backround) is "3ddeskd". the command to get snapshots of the desktops is "3ddesk --acquire", and the command to activate it is "3ddek"04:00
max0_thanks04:00
maziahna i was just having a bite of the hotdog :D04:00
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Jucatos/raddle/rattle ??04:01
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maziahoh dude, lol04:01
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mkaraAny ideas about using wpa encription on kubuntu?04:04
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federico_umm... I think I am going to wait for some friend of mine to help with the whole installation04:05
maziahbugga ias just att a page on writing ur ssl keys04:05
maziahfor encryption04:05
BonBonTheJonmkara: I think it works, but I dont know how to set it up04:05
maziahtho i cant recall if it was wpa or wep04:05
federico_meanwhile I have some other question if you can kindly help me04:05
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Mezfederico_, go ahead and ask your questions - if we can answer them, we will04:06
federico_I have a notebook acer aspire 5102 that have incorporated a webcam04:06
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federico_kubuntu is unable to recognize the webcam, and the drivers in the webpage of acer are all for windows04:07
tony_can someone help with my USB ports not working in Kubuntu?04:07
maziahmy apt-get update doesnt seem to work, i have tried using the generated sources.list from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, nz and au ones04:07
maziahall seem to timeout04:08
federico_A friend of mine told me that he knows that the are some drivers emulators of windows for linux... do you any?04:08
maziahthough my browser works fine when i go to the links in the address bar04:08
Meztony_, what do you mean by "not working"04:08
Mezfederico_, you mean to run windows programs on linux?04:09
federico_the windows drivers04:09
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Mezdrivers for your hardware?04:10
federico_as the matter of fact I have a problem with wine, cause I my notebook is amd64... do you what i couldo do with that?04:10
tony_Mez: I have a webcam plugged in and it doesnt see it. I was in here this morning and they had me run lusb and it didnt work.04:10
afexwhat are some fool-proof steps to getting video playback working?04:10
jmichaelxhow many people have been asking how to install flash 9 beta the last day or so??04:10
afexkaffeine can tell how long a video file is, but wont play it04:11
federico_well I am not really sure how does it work04:11
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federico_hahaha... I have the temptation to go back and use MS windows04:13
starsky-hutchy!windows04:13
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:13
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jmichaelx!flash904:14
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jmichaelxsweet04:14
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mkara!wpa04:15
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noexAnyone around?04:18
max0hi, where should i go for 3ddesktop help?04:18
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federico_I am... but I dont know anythin!04:18
starsky-hutchy!xgl04:18
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:18
noexStarsku-hutchy: Hells yah.04:19
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noexmax0: XGL and Compiz are good places to start04:19
starsky-hutchynoex, :)04:19
Jucatomax0: what's the problem?04:19
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noexThere is a pretty good tutorial for those to floating around also.04:19
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noexHey starsky, how long have you been using ubuntu?04:21
ironcladlouI just installed Kubuntu 6.10 RC from a clean text-based install (alternate disc). During install, it detected my PCMCIA Belkin Wireless G card as ath0. After install, however, the card has disappeared from KDE. Neither the control panel nor KNetworkManager can see it. Ideas?04:21
morphishanyone here using zope? or know of a light CMS for which there is a package for kubuntu?04:23
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max0Jucarto: i start 3ddesk and i get this error http://pastebin.ca/21286804:24
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mando!games04:24
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php04:24
Jucatomax0: have you installed the binary driver for your video card?04:25
mando!acer04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
max0no04:25
mando!wifi04:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:25
Jucatomax0: you need that04:25
max0how?04:25
ironcladlouI should also mention: in Kubuntu 6.06, this card worked just fine with a stock install+KNetworkManager04:26
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Jucatomax0: what's your video card?04:26
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max0intel i81004:27
teledynanyone know what's up with menus?  i'm installing a lot of stuff and its not updating the menu04:27
Jucatomax0: oh built-in?04:27
max0yes04:27
Jucatohm.. I don't think that would do. you need 3d hardware acceleration, afaik04:28
max0my card has that04:28
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CVirusteledyn: kbuildsycoca04:30
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max0how do i install the binary drivers04:30
CVirus_max_: there are no binary drivers for your card04:30
CVirusmax0: ^04:31
CVirusmax0: there is a kernel module already04:31
CVirusmax0: glxinfo | greo direct04:31
CVirusmax0: glxinfo | grep direct04:31
max0same error as in my pastebin http://pastebin.ca/21286804:32
CViruslemem see04:33
CViruslemme*04:33
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CVirusmax0: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i81004:34
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Brydenn33ok i need help finding a way to unRar .rar files04:35
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Brydenn33what program should i use? or what's the best option?04:35
max0CVirus: http://pastebin.ca/21287704:35
CVirus!rar04:35
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:35
CVirus!unrar04:36
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:36
CVirus!info unrar-free04:36
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB04:36
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JucatoCVirus: I think the unrar-free doesn't decompress the latest RAR versions?04:36
CVirusJucato: no idea04:36
Jucato:)04:36
CVirusmax0: do you have universe and multiverse repos. enabled ?04:37
max0whats that04:37
CVirus!universe04:37
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:37
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CVirusmax0: use that link04:37
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max0what about repositories?04:39
CVirusmax0: will you read the page ?04:39
max0its about repositories04:39
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max0errr04:39
max0dapper04:39
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max0i run edgy04:39
CVirusmax0: how long have you been using Linux ?04:39
max0month?04:39
CVirusmax0: and who the fuck told you to use Edgy ?04:40
max0me04:40
MezCVirus, moderate your language04:40
CVirusMez: sorry about that04:40
Jucatomax0: then just substitute dapper references with edgy in that wiki...04:40
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MezCVirus, dont be sorry - just dont do it ;)04:40
Jucatolol04:40
zorba64Edgy requires permission to use??04:41
max0ok04:41
Jucatomax0: you might be wondering why CVirus reacted that way. it's because Edgy (final release) hasn't been released yet. so you're usng something not 100% stable yet04:41
Mezzorba64, it's available, but it's in an unstable form atm04:41
Jucatoit's stable for the most part, but until the final release, it's not recommended to use as a main system04:42
Mezzorba64 - nvm me04:42
CVirusMez: its stable now04:42
zorba64i know i am using it...is max0 being a problem?04:42
Jucatowell, we can't really give a "100% Stable" stamp of approval until it's final release...04:42
max0Jucarto: i know its not stable04:42
Mezzorba64, he's probably having a problem, not being one ;)04:42
Jucatobut this is beyond max0's problem04:42
max0final is 26th this month04:42
federico_thank you all for the information!!!04:42
federico_see you later04:43
max0and no, no problems with edgy04:43
max0just some 3ddesktop problems04:43
zorba64the stable one isn't even stable...so...go figure04:43
max0there is no edgy stable04:43
CViruszorba64: the stable isnt stable .. thats a good reason to use unstable04:43
zorba64am referring to dapper and the X stuff ups04:43
max0oh04:44
Jucatobasically, max0's problem is a driver that would allow him to use 3d hardware acceleration of his IGP04:44
zorba64exactly...as stable is as stable gets04:44
CVirusmax0: just enable the universe and multiverse repos. and install the packge I told you about04:44
max0doin it now04:44
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zorba64nuthin much...just shooting the shit with no one in particular :)04:45
Jucatook, just to stop the discussion, let's just say that on Oct. 26, Edgy wil be as stable as it can get, despite being edgy. ok?04:45
zorba64is max) a ati or nvidia man with probs?04:46
intelikeyzorba64 hehhe i never ask an os to be more stabel than i am.... :)04:46
zorba64good point intelikey...no need to be too demanding04:46
Jucatozorba64: Intel IGP, which according to him has 3d acceleration04:46
intelikeyhave him lshw the thing and pastebin it.04:47
zorba64Jucato, welll...acording to intel anyway...plenty would probably disagree no doubt04:47
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zorba64what driver would work with that beast anyway...out of curiosity04:48
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max0can you send that link again?04:48
max0neverminf04:49
max0d04:49
zorba64max0...not paying attention again...to the back of the room with you04:49
CViruszorba64: xserver-xorg-driver-i81004:49
coreyhello all04:49
max0no, i had to restart04:49
noexAnyone have a moment to hit me up in a private message?04:49
max0and then i looked in my tray and the fox was still open with the restart04:50
zorba64ah that one...remember it well...(shudders theatrically)04:50
max0restart? i mean page04:50
Meznoex, ask out here... you're more than likely to find someone who can answer you04:51
zorba64noex, you trolling for something?04:51
noexNot trolling, just looking for some advise, new to having a full install of linux and looking for some advice. I have read the FAQ and most of the Ubuntu wiki.04:51
Mezzorba, I think the word you were looking for is "trawling" not trolling ;)04:52
noexHah04:52
Meznoex, go ahead and ask out here :D04:52
Mezif you ask out here, other people lurking can learn, not just you ;)04:52
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intelikeydid i hear a lurk ?04:53
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noexWell, I will just out myself, I am new to linux, in the desktop form. I just installed ubuntu and was curious if I need to download hardware specific drivers.04:54
intelikeynoex depends,  what is not working for you ?04:54
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Jucato"I will just out myself"... that sounds a bit... um.. strange... :)04:54
noexI only have a single peripheral device, which is my graphics card.. and I think I have that covered from the synaptic package manager (nvida drivers).04:55
noexLol, yeh, well, it was a poor attempt at a joke:)04:55
intelikey!ati04:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:55
intelikeybut if you don't need it don't mess with it.04:55
noex(Alreadu installed all that.. as I mentioned, I read the whole wiki and faq)04:55
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max0CVirus: ok, there enabled04:56
noexMy question is more focused on motherboard drivers.. any ideas there?04:56
Jucatonoex: if you installed nvidia-glx already with no problems, then it's ok now04:56
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intelikeynoex like i said.  tell us what is not working like you want it to and maybe we can help.04:56
noexSo for a new install, you fellows don't download drivers specifically for your motherboard or sound chips.04:56
MezI've never understood the need for motherboard drivers04:56
intelikeynoex no.04:57
noexIntelikey, everything is working, I am just asking if I should download something for even better performance.04:57
noexAh, very cool.04:57
Jucatonoex: not really, unless we need to. I download the NVIDIA driver though04:57
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noexAs I mentioned, still very used to Windows environment for desktop usage.04:57
max0CVirus: ok, there enabled04:57
Meznoex, the only thing I can possibly suggest is a kernel more specific to your compiler04:57
BonBonTheJonnoex: you might want to get a kernel version appropriate for your processor04:57
Jucatonoex: there are no "motherboard" drivers in Linux, afaik04:57
Mezs/compiler/processor/04:57
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noexYes, I have installed the nvidia drivers, nice difference.04:58
MezBonBonTheJon, ha, beat ya!04:58
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intelikeynoex we (maybe i should speek for myself) i generally use "if it aint broke, don't fix it"  and go.04:58
sacha_noex, when you compile the kernel -- you should compile all relevant drivers there04:58
sacha_that's not related to desktop at all, should do that without desktop too04:58
JucatoMez: actually, for edgy, there won't be need for processor specific kernels (except for 64-bt and PPC I think)04:58
noexAh, cool deal, any good howto on doing that, I would like to read up.04:58
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BonBonTheJonsacha_: you don't need to compile the kernel04:58
BonBonTheJonis there a way to check if my video card would be supported by the ati binary driver04:58
sacha_yeah by default it should have everything and you can compile modules if need be04:59
MezJucato... ?04:59
noexWhen I mention desktop, I am refering to the type of computer system, not the GUI (just for as a side note).04:59
sacha_since you are in the desktop right now, noex, you don't need anything else04:59
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sacha_it already has all the standard drivers as modules or builtin04:59
JucatoStarting edgy, they wil roll out a generic kernel for 386 to k7 processors.04:59
intelikeynoex you prolly wont gain any noticable advantage by guilding your own kernel...04:59
intelikeybuilding04:59
noexAh, thats good to know. I was probably going to hold off that anyhow.05:00
max0you here CVirus?05:00
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=== intelikey has a guilded kernel ???
MezJucato, er.. yet a kernel configured to your processor will still work05:00
noexI am going to get more filimiar with the system. Lucky I have a few years of SSH previous to my switch. :)05:00
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BonBonTheJonhas anyone updated dapper to edgy? any kinks?05:00
Mez-386 = generic kernel05:00
max0bonbon05:00
max0i did05:00
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JucatoMez: actually according to the devs, there's no difference, that's why they're rolling out a generic kernel05:00
BonBonTheJonmax0: any problems05:00
Jucatosomething like linux-image-generic05:01
max0i dont have a link, i did it manually but it was really easy05:01
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max0no no problems05:01
sacha_well i got my kernel from the 4MB generic down to 1MB and i have noticed much faster boot time05:01
lunitikBonBonTheJon: none for me05:01
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CVirusmax0: yes ?05:01
megamasterxhey all05:01
BonBonTheJondo I just change all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list05:01
JucatoMez: of course if you compile a kernel, that might be a different case. I'm not familiar with it though05:01
lunitikJucato: yes... this will be the default kernel though? they still have -386 -k7 etc...05:01
enyawixMez nic driver ide sata chipset etc.05:02
intelikeysacha_ the kernel is only 1m by default.05:02
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max0BonBon: yes then sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:02
intelikeyyou mean the initrd image no ?05:02
noexAny suggestions for a good media player (something that can handle streams and mp3s). I have been using Rhythmbox.05:02
max0CVirus: ok, there enabled05:02
sacha_i mean bzImage05:02
Jucatolunitik: I don't think so. maybe no more -k7 stuff05:02
BonBonTheJonmax0: any ideas of what changed?05:02
intelikeyhehhe sacha_ the generic *buntu kernels are ONE meg.05:02
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Mezoh forget it05:02
CVirusmax0: now sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i81005:02
lunitiknoex: Amarok > Rhythmbox  :)05:02
sacha_i dont use an initrd05:03
max0will do, brb05:03
noexAh, thanks for the suggestion Lunitik, any particular reasons?05:03
CVirus!schedule05:03
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:03
lunitikJucato: you just guessing? I still see -k7 as I stated05:03
BonBonTheJonlunitik: any ideas of what changed05:03
Jucatoah for edgy05:03
Jucatook if you say so05:03
max0same error05:03
lunitiknoex: Amarok is pretty much the best audio player full stop... theres not much it can't do with your music...05:03
Hawkwindlunitik: I disagree since that is *your* personal opinion actually05:04
sacha_im using Noatun :S05:04
noexlunitik: installing now :)05:04
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Mezlunitik, and the newest verison is ever so uber (though confusing from upgrading from 1.3 and everything moving places)05:04
intelikeyi use sox05:04
lunitikBonBonTheJon: Edgy feels like a point release rather than a huge release... they have upstart and oem installation stuff... thats about it of note though other than new versions05:04
Jucatolunitik: absolutely sure?05:05
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BonBonTheJon!upstart05:05
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/05:05
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Hawkwindlunitik: Much more than that in Edgy actually05:05
Jucatolunitik: have you seen the previous Beta/Knot release announcements?05:05
lunitikJucato: I'm running Edgy... so about as sure as you can be...05:05
max0edgy took me a whle night05:05
Hawkwindlunitik: Then you might want to look again at your install.  There are lots of big changes05:05
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lunitikHmm... and -k7 depends -generic ... meh05:07
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HawkwindImagine that05:07
lunitikHawkwind: name some?05:07
CVirus!edgy05:07
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:07
zorba64someone in here with an identity crisis05:08
Dr_willischeck out the edgy fstab, and grub configs for some interesging changes05:08
Hawkwindlunitik: #Ubuntu+1 and they will tell you all about Edgy since that is the Edgy channel05:08
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Mez!fiery05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
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Mez!fiesty05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
BonBonTheJon!fawn05:11
JucatoMez: I think it's "Feisty" :)05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fawn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
HawkwindIt's not in the bot yet05:11
lunitikFeisty Fawn05:11
BonBonTheJonmust be too new05:11
HawkwindUnder any spelling AFAIK05:11
Jucatoyeah. well let's wait for Edgy to come out before adding it :P05:12
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Mez!feisty is the codename for ubuntu 7.0405:12
ubotuI'll remember that, Mez05:12
User_linuxhow do I install via audio drivers????05:12
Jucatolol ok..05:12
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cellofellowIs there a way to reorganize whole toolbars in firefox? I can't seem to get Google toolbar to go above the Bookmarks toolbar.05:13
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noexlunitik: Should amaroK work directly after install? I can't seem to get the streams or mp3's to work on it.05:14
noex!amarok05:14
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org05:14
BonBonTheJon!mp305:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:15
cellofellownoex: I think u need the libxine-extracodecs package05:15
MegaMasterX!nvidia05:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:15
MegaMasterX:)05:15
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noexI was able to stream using Rhythmbox, but cannot from amaroK, does that make sense?05:15
cellofellowyes05:16
cellofellowamarok uses xine and xine needs libxine-extracodecs05:16
intelikeyJucato remember the no quit button question?  i set up twm to allow ^@[esc]    and it works on apps that don't have a menu.  but for some reason apps with a menu ignore it.....  ;/05:16
noexAh, ok. I will go grab up xine. Thanks cellofellow05:16
Jucatooh? that's strange then...05:16
cellofellowanyone know about firefox toolbars.05:16
cellofellownoex: it should be already there if you can play ogg files.05:16
intelikeyjah /me tinks so....05:17
MegaMasterX!mono05:17
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB05:17
MegaMasterXIt's not 1kb....05:17
MegaMasterXis it?05:17
cellofellowthe only thing I use mono for is beagle05:17
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lunitiknoex: in both cases, its mp3 issues... and in both cases... install libxine-extracodecs from universe05:17
zorba64MegaMasterX: it will drag in what it needs...a "metapackage"05:17
lunitiknoex: no such proprietary things will work without installing from multiverse (or in some cases elsewhere)05:17
noexAh, makes sense.05:18
intelikey!mp305:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:18
noexThanks for the explaination.05:18
intelikeybut you know that already, seeing that you have read the wiki05:18
cellofellowfirefox toolbars?05:18
MegaMasterX!firefox05:19
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins05:19
intelikeycellofellow  swimncello?05:19
cellofellowwell, its just I want to reorganize the toolbars, and not just the buttons on them.05:19
cellofellowintelikey: what???05:19
intelikeynm.05:19
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intelikeymistook you for someone i know.05:20
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noexFixed it up, thanks alot guys!05:20
noexIt's going to be much nicer to read all of these help guides to music :)05:20
intelikeysorry josh.   my bad.05:21
noex!5.105:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
noex!sound05:21
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin05:21
cellofellowgolly. you think your nick hides you but anyone can whois you and find your real name.05:21
Jucatocellofellow: don't put in you real name then05:21
Jucato:)05:21
cellofellowI can change that? wait, I remeber. there's a real name setting. yeah.05:22
intelikeyif you want to hide. hide. it's simple enough.05:22
cellofellownow that you know, no worries.05:22
Jucatolol05:22
intelikey:)05:22
t3hwiz0rd-serveri9 may have to reinstall my windows partition. if i do, grub will be overwritten, how can I reinstall it?05:22
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BonBonTheJon!windows05:23
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm05:23
BonBonTheJon#grub05:23
Jucato!grub05:23
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:23
Jucatot3hwiz0rd-server: ^^^^05:23
cellofellowI installed sun java vm but firefox/swiftfox doesn't use it.05:23
BonBonTheJoni can't type05:23
User_linuxhow do I install via audio drivers????05:23
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Jucatocellofellow: even after setting the default Java version to be used? (sudo update-alternatives)05:24
cellofellowJucato: yes, I foolowed the wiki to the letter.05:24
intelikeyman update-alternatives ?05:24
Jucatohm... you isntalled sun-java5-plugin right?05:24
cellofellowmaybe.....05:24
Jucatosudo update-alternatives --config java05:24
Jucatocellofellow: "maybe" won't work :P05:25
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cellofellowJucato: did do the previous command. I thought that sun-java5-bin installed the plugin too.05:25
=== intelikey wonders if it's wiser to follow the spirit of the wiki than the letter of the wiki ???
Jucatocellofellow: no05:25
Jucatointelikey: no spirit there. I exorcised it :P05:26
intelikeyoh.05:26
=== cellofellow thinks that they might update it now and then.
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intelikeyJucato maybe it changed it's nick and is now hiding   8*|05:26
noexAre XGL and Compiz resource hogs? Any huge preformace decrease?05:26
Jucatoheh05:27
noexI would imagine so.05:27
cellofellownoex: they use more than xorg and kwin that's fur shur05:27
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Jucatocellofellow: you probably didn't read hard enough :P "Java on Mozilla Firefox Ubuntu 6.06/Kubuntu 6.06 Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu (Ubuntu only), or install the sun-java5-plugin package."05:27
cellofellowJucato: oops05:27
Jucatocellofellow: heh :P05:28
noexWell, I think I have successfully moved into my new system, music player, flash9, wine, and gaim.05:28
sacha_someone said they were gettign 300 FPS on Beryl with an Xsomething video card (ati)05:28
noexGlad to be away from Windows before Vista comes out and annoys the piss out of me.05:28
cellofellowI read the requirements for flash9, and my decent system doesn't match. I wasn't happy.05:28
User_linuxhow do I install via audio drivers????05:28
cellofellownoex: xgl might annoy you too y'know.05:29
intelikeyUser_linux modprobe05:29
zorba64noex: and it is bloody annoying too05:29
sacha_xgl doesn't annoy me :P05:29
sacha_shift+backspace in beryl annoys me though05:29
cellofellowoh, well. I'm not going to try XGL with a TNT2 GPU05:29
noexcellowfellow: hah, I didn't read them sadly, anything interesting? It works quiet well for me. Before hitting up IRC I was watching LOST on abc.com05:29
sacha_why not cello? apparently it runs fine05:30
noexDo you guys run XGL?05:30
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cellofellowsacha_: really? I'd have thought that SGL needed at least a GeForce of some kind.05:30
zorba64nup...tried it...nausea...pass me the bucket05:30
lunitiknoex: do you have a specific question?05:30
cellofellowXGL05:30
noexWell, Vista annoys me because of the UA not because of the graphics or anything.05:30
sacha_apparently runs really well.. even on old videocards05:31
lunitiknoex: you mean UI?05:31
cellofellownoex: the flash9 requierements I say said 128 video and 512 memory. Mine doesn't match.05:31
noexUser Agreement.05:31
zorba64and that it requires "authorisation" for everything05:31
intelikeyEULA05:31
noexYou got it.05:31
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sacha_he means the privilege pop ups05:31
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cellofellowI've never actually agreed to an enforced M$ EULA05:31
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intelikeyenough reason for the whole world to refuse to use it.....05:32
sacha_hes not talking about the EULA05:32
User_linuxi installed XGL using Add / remove programs, where is it now???05:32
noexWell, I am talking about hte EULA, as well as the terms of use.05:32
cellofellowsacha_: you really think XGL will run on a RIVA TNT2 16MB?05:32
sacha_hmm 16MB, worth a try05:32
lunitikUser_linux: dpkg -L xserver-xgl | grep bin ...05:32
noexIt just seems too intrusive to be ok with.05:33
sacha_i thought tnt2 would be 32mb05:33
cellofellowsacha_: and Vista Aero needs like 128MB. ha ha!05:33
zorba64whole this is a bit of a laff...like previous editions05:33
sacha_yes05:33
jahallmightyxgl05:33
cellofellowsacha_: for some reason mine's a 16.05:33
User_linuxhow do I enable xgl?05:33
noex!xgl05:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:33
noexQuiet a nice IRC Bot, btw.05:34
cellofellowUser_linux: try the ubuntu-xgl channel then05:34
zorba64helpful chap05:34
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noexIndeed. Pip Pip!05:34
intelikey!botsnack05:34
ubotuYum!05:34
noexHaha05:34
noexVery nice feature.05:34
zorba64huzzah huzzah05:35
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cellofellowgrrrrr. I installed the sun java plugin and it installed firefox with it. I installed all of firefox's depends to use swiftfox, but got away with not haveing th actual binaries.05:35
lunitik!sacrifice zorba6405:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sacrifice zorba64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
lunitikNo fun  :(05:37
intelikeycellofellow welcome to "dpkg"05:37
zorba64charming chap aren't you05:37
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cellofellowintelikey: yeah, if only swiftfox were in the repos.05:37
lunitikzorba64: shush, its just a fun "feature" of most bloot bots  :/05:37
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Eroickis there an easy way to check MD5 sums from windows without cygwin?05:38
HawkwindEroick: fsum05:38
zorba64np old son...figured you was joshing wiv me05:38
HawkwindEroick: To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum05:38
jahallmightywho of you knows to install a progra05:38
Hawkwindjahallmighty: sudo apt-get install <package>05:38
jahallmightyit is that i am new in this05:38
zorba64everybody does05:38
User_linuxmy audio driver is disabled, how do I rollback to ubuntu default audio driver?05:39
Jucato!install05:39
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:39
ubahmapkEroick: http://www.google.com/search?q=md5sum+windows first entry does it05:39
Jucatoer...05:39
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grayeulAnyone over here know what it takes to make the /dev/eth1 device appear when wireless drivers are loaded?05:39
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cellofellowwhat is the default? alsa? oss?05:39
intelikeyalsa05:39
Jucatojahallmighty: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html05:39
intelikeyoss is depreciated05:40
User_linuxdont know, my audio device suddely turned off05:40
cellofellowintelikey: don't people still use oss?05:40
intelikeyyes05:40
intelikeyyour point ?05:40
cellofellowno point, just a question.05:40
noex!audio05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
zorba64jahallmighty: maybe you should ask specifically...more than one way to skin a cat or install a package05:41
cellofellow!alsa05:41
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin05:41
ubahmapkpeople still use Windows, too, but it's been obsolete for years! :-D05:41
intelikey!sound05:41
intelikeysame infonode05:41
zorba64very droll ubahmapk05:41
cellofellowubahmapk: true05:41
ubahmapkzorba64: sorry, couldn't help it :-)05:41
cellofellowubahmapk: no, it was really funny.05:41
noexAnyone have a good resource for setting up 5.1 sound?05:41
zorba64understand perfectly old son...apologies not necessary05:42
intelikeyi absolved of the obsolete absolutely.05:42
cellofellowdoesn't alsa have an advanced curses based config program?05:42
intelikey:)05:42
sacha_alsamixer05:42
cellofellownoex try that maybe05:42
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jahallmightyzorba64 grase05:43
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zorba64will ubahmapk return safely...stay tuned...film at 1105:43
cellofellowzorba64: lol05:43
intelikeytwo packages that expand alsa that you might look at.05:43
intelikeyalsa-tools - Console based ALSA utilities for specific hardware05:43
intelikeyalsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware05:43
noexCool, thanks guys05:43
cellofellowso, when it's finally released, how do I upgrade from dapper to edgy?05:44
zorba64cellofellow: a number of ways...05:45
noexWell, I am out for the night. Thanks alot guys, you all have been a great help. Be back tommorrow.05:45
cellofelloweasiest? most proper?05:45
cellofellowcleanest?05:45
intelikeycellofellow you edit your sources.list and do two commands05:45
BonBonTheJoncellofellow: in your sources.list, change all dapper's to edgy's05:45
lunitikcellofellow: change cases of 'dapper' to 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'05:46
cellofellowintelikey: does it boil down to changing papper to edgy?05:46
cellofellowoops05:46
zorba64cellofellow: mmm...well i did the download and burn iso and fresh install since i have home seperate05:46
Jucatocellofellow: yes. dapper to edgy05:46
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cellofellowok, sounds easy enough. will any apps or settings get changed or broken?05:46
Jucatocellofellow: of course if you have other 3rd party repos, and if you installed some stuff from those, they might cause some problems05:46
zorba64you can go that way....may need to be forcefull with apt if it doesn't play nice05:47
lunitikcellofellow: changed? yes... broken? unlikely05:47
cellofellowno 3rd parties.05:47
cellofellowlunitik: ok05:47
Brydenn33hey, anyone in here have strong C++ skillz or have wine 0.9.9 installed?05:47
intelikeypapper prake to nervous salamander yeah.05:47
Brydenn33need some help with it05:47
Jucatocellofellow: well if you have a very clean system, you have nothing to fear05:47
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cellofellowJucato: just nvidia and sun and swiftfox are sort of out of the main or universe05:48
cellofellowoutside of05:48
=== lunitik might reinstall just to see exactly what the intended experience of edgy is...
zorba64go learn more about apt while you are waiting for the upgrade05:48
Jucatocellofellow: well nvidia-glx and sun are in multiverse. swiftfox, I'm not sure how it will affect the upgrade05:48
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ubahmapksuccess! :-)05:49
cellofellowJucato: swiftfox is built kind of generically for Sid and ubuntu, so it should be fine.05:49
zorba64remove swiftfox before you do05:49
cellofellowubahmapk: sweet!05:49
cellofellowzorba64: ok05:49
Jucatocellofellow: probably. we still can't be 100% sure :)05:49
intelikeyhmm got a universe a multiverse and now an adverse.....05:49
zorba64if it ain't in the ubuntu repos then would be safer to remove it prior05:49
zorba64adverse??05:49
cellofellowlet's see.. swiftfox, picasa, w32codecs. that's it.05:50
intelikeybroken repo  :)05:50
zorba64ubahmapk: you are alive...a miracle forsooth05:50
cellofellowforgot about picasa.05:50
ubahmapkcellofellow: I was a bit concerned since adept errored out on me a few times, but then the trusty konsole fixed everything05:50
ubahmapkzorba64: miracles never cease05:50
cellofellowubahmapk: for anything like that I aint touching adept.05:50
Eroickdamn05:51
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zorba64ubahmapk: did you perform sacrifice to uboto god beforehand ?05:51
Eroickbootstrap failed,corrupt package.05:51
ubahmapkcellofellow: and from this point forward, neither am I05:51
EroickCD is corrupt05:51
ubahmapkthough it's nice for simple installs when you can't remember the name of the package :-)05:51
cellofellowubahmapk: adepts ok for some apps, but tought stuff like that it sucks.05:51
ubahmapkcellofellow: yup05:51
ubahmapkso I discovered tonight05:51
zorba64adept is still a bit young05:51
cellofellowubahmapk: when I'm just browsing around for a program I find myself using Add/Remove Programs. adept-installer05:52
ubahmapkhadn't tried those yet05:52
cellofellowubahmapk: same thing05:52
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zorba64apt-cache search works for me05:52
ubahmapkI also like the update notices in the systray from adept05:52
cellofellowubahmapk: adept installer is launched by the add/remove programs button05:53
ubahmapkI have used apt-cache and it is nice05:53
cellofellowubahmapk: yeah, thos are good.05:53
ubahmapkcellofellow: hadn't tried add/remove -- reminds me too much of windows05:53
ubahmapkI know it's just the name, but...05:53
sacha_lol05:53
sacha_thats what i was thinking05:53
cellofellowubahmapk: the name does, but I never could add any prgrams with windows add/remove programs.05:53
zorba64yeah...i removed it from the menu/renamed it to adept05:54
sacha_hah, true05:54
ubahmapkzorba64: now there's an idea!05:54
sacha_remove add/remove programs from add/remove programs?05:54
Dr_willisI thought the add/remove was a limited-adept-lite thing. :)05:54
lunitikThese names are chosen just for that reason... users that are switching from the most popular desktop OS know what it is by looking at the name05:54
cellofellowi think the name is sort of newb-oriented. actually, the whole program is.05:54
zorba64like system setting...changed it to kcontrol05:54
ubahmapklunitik: you're right.  And that's fine05:54
ubahmapkI've run linux for some time, just not debian/ubuntu05:54
cellofellowzorba64: trouble is system settings isnt't kcontrol05:55
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jahallmighty05:55
jahallmightywho of you says me as she builds the framework for another porfabor computer is that I want to learn single I have 16 of age05:55
zorba64nope...but close enough for me05:55
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intelikeyzorba64 i use apt all the time.  but i have scripts for everything.   q    is   apt-cache search $*    s = apt-cache show $*      being lazy is so hard in a console.... you have to script everything.......   :)05:56
ubahmapkintelikey: or use 'alias'05:56
sacha_i use prt05:56
zorba64hah...showoff...:)05:57
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intelikeyubahmapk that's just moving the script to a central location....05:57
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ubahmapkintelikey: yup.  and? :-)05:57
sacha_prt-get depinst --installscripts $*   is good for an alias05:57
jahallmighty05:57
zorba64more identity crises05:57
jahallmightyit tell me dr_willis05:57
sacha_--install-scripts*05:57
intelikeyah.... was i trying to say something...... ?05:57
ubahmapkno idea05:58
intelikeynever mind.05:58
ubahmapkI never know if I am, either :-)05:58
intelikey:05:58
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intelikeysacha_ prt-get ?06:00
Digital_PioneerHi. I'm having some trouble with my networking. I'm connected to the network, but I can't get to zeroconf:/06:00
intelikey:)06:00
sacha_yes :D06:00
ubahmapkOk, showing my ignorance of apt again: why have 44 packages been 'kept back' after my upgrade to eft?06:00
jahallmightydigame porfavor like estrar to another computer06:00
Digital_PioneerError message is: "The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running."06:01
sacha_prt-get depinst --install-scripts $*  downloads source code of each dependancy and the package itself, configures and compiles and then installs each dependancy and package itself :)06:01
ubahmapksacha_: sounds like gentoo :-) (which I used for some time and really liked - it was just tough on a workstation.  Still great for servers, though.)06:01
sacha_using CRUX06:01
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intelikeymodem resets  are detestable.06:02
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MegaMasterX!tar06:02
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression06:02
MegaMasterX!XServer06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about XServer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
MegaMasterX!X Server06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about X Server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
jdaanybody know a good how to   to install an ATi vid card in dapper06:03
intelikeytar x file06:03
MegaMasterX!X06:03
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:03
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intelikey!ati > jda06:04
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cellofellowwhy's ubotu say to use that crazy init.d command when ctrl+alt+backspace works just fine?06:05
MegaMasterXi have no clue.06:05
intelikeycellofellow cause while it works it's not clean.06:05
cellofellowoh, never mind, I see. It's for when you want to restart all the x.06:05
MegaMasterX:)06:05
cellofellowthat too.06:05
sacha_killall -q kdm  .. yeah not very clean06:05
MegaMasterXagreed06:06
Digital_PioneerOK, can someone tell me where to go for network support?...06:06
MegaMasterXis Konsole an console emulation?06:06
MegaMasterX!network06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
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lunitikcellofellow: ctrl+alt+backspace only works if X is accepting keystrokes... ctrl+alt+f1 will work in most cases however, except for a hard crash06:06
sacha_digital_pioneer what kind of network issue?06:06
ubahmapk!apt06:06
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:06
cellofellow!konsole > MegaMasterX06:06
Digital_Pioneersacha_, I'm trying to get a network going between two Kubuntu systems.06:07
MegaMasterXWoah thats cool.06:07
cellofellowlunitik: I've had some hard X freezes where the only thing that worked was SSH.06:07
sacha_share files with samba? or.. ?06:07
Digital_Pioneersacha_, Wireless. If I open zeroconf:/, it says the Zeroconf daemon isn't running.06:07
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cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: I think zeroconf is easiest.06:07
Digital_Pioneer(mdnsd)06:07
sacha_ahh wireless.. wireless scares me, sorry :P i had to use windows drivers to get my wireless card even working :(06:07
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, Sweet. How do I get mdnsd running?06:07
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: that's zeroconf06:07
lunitikcellofellow: and in that case... still /etc/init.d/gdm restart would likely work...  :)06:07
Digital_Pioneersacha_, I know the feeling. I'm using Ndiswrapper right now.06:08
intelikeyMegaMasterX konsole is a terminal emulator      the console is a real terminal        errr maybe i should say a real 'virtual terminal'   not that i actually know the diff.06:08
cellofellowlunitik: I'm using kubuntu thankyou. I have no gdm06:08
grayeulIs there a command to show which package a file is part of?06:08
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, Yeah, I know, but how do I start it?06:08
MegaMasterXOh....So it is an emulation.06:08
MegaMasterXok.06:08
lunitikcellofellow: eh... kdm  :/06:08
intelikeygrayeul apt-file06:08
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: um, did you install avahi-deamon or whatever it is?06:09
cellofellow!avahi06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
cellofellow!zeroconf06:09
ubotuzeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB06:09
grayeulintelikey: thanks... checking something...06:09
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cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: I got it going once. required some avahi package try that.06:09
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, OK, I'm installing it.06:09
intelikeygrayeul if you like cli; grep /path/to/file /var/lib/dpkg/info/*06:10
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, Sweet. What now...?06:10
intelikeyassuming the file was installed from a .deb06:10
Digital_PioneerZeroconf:/ opens without error, but it's empty.06:10
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: if the deamon is running, the just go to zeroconf:/ in konqueror. you won't see anything, but if you get no errors it's working06:11
grayeulintelikey: Hmm... apt-file not found, other: too long list for args06:11
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cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: so, know right click the panel and click add applet or whatever it is.06:11
intelikey?06:11
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: install the personal file server, it uses zerconf.06:12
intelikeygrayeul; grep /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/*06:12
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: just to test it.06:12
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, Know a package name?06:12
intelikeywell add -e then06:12
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: rather add the already installed server to the panel.06:12
intelikeygrayeul; grep -e /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/*06:12
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: that's how you use it.06:12
grayeulintelikey: got the grep to work, by cd'ing to /var/lib/dpkg/info... otherwise too many chars06:12
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intelikeygrayeul na just needed -e06:13
grayeulso, why don't I have apt-file?  Or is it in someplace funny?06:13
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: once the applet's on the panel right click it and add a new server. it should try to publish the server to zeroconf when it's done, and then it should be in the zeroconf:/ kioslave06:14
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, So for me to get an area where I can put files accessible to multiple computers on the same network, of the same OS, I need a file server...?06:14
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: this just tests if zeroconf is working. it's a read only server. you may need something else for use.06:14
grayeulanyone here using ipw3945 wireless driver?06:14
Dr_willisI got a old box thats a dedicated fileserver. :)06:14
intelikeygrayeul it's not installed by default06:14
Dr_willisI dont even know what zeroconf is supposed to do.06:15
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grayeulinteliky: Ah... just did a new install (and am new to kubuntu) of EdgyRC06:15
intelikeyapt-file - APT package searching utility -- command-line interface06:15
cellofellowbrb06:15
grayeulintelikey: So, when I get network up on that machine... to get apt-file, do: apt-get apt-file ?06:16
intelikeyyeah  apt-get install apt-file    and then you have to update apt-file.  it has to grab a database.06:17
Digital_Pioneercellofellow, OK, Zeroconf is working.06:17
grayeulyou wouldn't happen to be using ipw3945, would you?06:17
intelikeyafter that. it kinda works.   but i prefer just greping the info files.06:17
grayeulgood to know....06:18
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intelikeyme using.. no.06:18
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cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: now you boldly go where I have not gone before.06:18
grayeulintelikey: Ok, similar question: If I am looking for a file, but don't have it -- how do I find which package has it?06:18
intelikeyi'm network illiterate. and quite content to remain that way.06:18
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intelikeyapt-file06:19
cellofellowyippee. java plugin working06:19
grayeulintelikey: Same thing?  apt-file will tell me about it, whether it is installed or not?06:19
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I_Eat_PlasticUhh, I turn 18 in 40 minutes.06:20
intelikeythat's why it needs the database.  yes06:20
ubahmapkI_Eat_Plastic: Happy B-Day06:20
I_Eat_Plasticubahmapk: Thank you!06:20
flaccid_turning on 18 and is on irc06:20
flaccid_should be out taking drugs..06:20
grayeulI_Eat_Plastic: Happy birthday... my birthday is over in 40 minutes... just turned 47!06:20
Digital_Pioneerflaccid_, I'm 14 and I'm on IRC. What should I be doing?'06:21
ubahmapkgrayeul: and Happy B-Day to you, too! :-)06:21
flaccid_Digital_Pioneer: stealing cars and smoking crack06:21
ubahmapkmy un-birthday ends in 40 minutes...but then I have another one....06:21
I_Eat_Plasticgrayeul: Congradtulations.06:21
Digital_Pioneerflaccid_, Not recommened.06:21
rcarrmy birthday is in approximately 430 thousand minutes06:21
cellofellowmee too06:21
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flaccid_hehe06:21
intelikeygrayeul oh you're an old fart.    couple years older than me.06:21
grayeulintelikey: And I've been playing with Unix for about 25 years06:22
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rcarrflaccid: I probably completely lose then06:22
cellofellowI only heard about it about a year ago06:22
Digital_PioneerAnyone out there know how to get networking going?06:22
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cellofellowexcept on Jurassic Park06:22
grayeulSpeaking of networking......06:22
flaccid_Digital_Pioneer: system settings | networking06:23
sacha_it was on jurassic park?06:23
Digital_PioneerI need to get some sort of file sharing between two Kubuntu boxes on the same network.06:23
zorba64oh..so over 40 is a old fart...bunch of young .....06:23
rcarrflaccid: I'm 15, in IRC, and working on Real Analysis homework06:23
intelikeygrayeul i've yet to handle a unix box.  or solaris   but linux.....   well...06:23
rcarrI basically completely lose at having a life06:23
Dr_willisDigital_Pioneer,  dozen ways to do that.. ssh and the fish:\\ kioslave for konqueror is handy06:23
rcarrwoo!06:23
cellofellowsacha_: that little girl sits down at the main computer, and says it's a unix system and she know how to use it.06:23
Dr_willisDigital_Pioneer,  or use samba.. or scp.06:23
flaccid_i think people are missing my point. wouldn't you be out with your friends on your 18th birthday06:23
sacha_oh ok06:23
rcarrI like the fish:// kiioslave for konqueror06:23
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ubahmapkor fish:// that's good, too :-)06:24
Digital_PioneerDr_willis, Isn't Samba used for networking with Windoze?06:24
Dr_willisi sort of like the various FUSE filesystem things.06:24
cellofellowrcarr: me too06:24
Dr_willisDigital_Pioneer,  it can be used for that.06:24
rcarrI normally use cli for file management, but when you have a lot of files06:24
rcarrwithout a common naming pattern06:24
ubahmapkrcarr: then you use mc06:24
Dr_willismc is handy :)06:24
Dr_willisone of the frst things i install06:24
cellofellowDigital_Pioneer: that's what it's designed for yes. NFS is more unixy.06:24
rcarrI never bothered much with MC06:25
ubahmapkDr_willis: ssh and then vim06:25
rcarrworth it?06:25
cellofellowDr_willis: yeah, mc is handy when logged in over ssh06:25
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Dr_willisive had issues with using mc and screen together however.06:25
Digital_PioneerSo I _CAN_ use Samba to connect with other Linuxes?06:26
ubahmapkDr_willis: really? that's interesting.  what sort of issues?06:26
cellofellowDr_willis: konsole has an mc mode.06:26
intelikeyflaccid_ this is irc where men are men.......06:26
ubahmapkDigital_Pioneer: sure06:26
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rcarrmy general file management strategy consists of perl one liners and yakuake06:26
flaccid_sounds a bit like that recent cowboy movie06:26
Digital_Pioneerubahmapk, OK. Care to elaborate, or should I pay #samba a visit?06:26
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rcarrflaccid: The cowboy movie about perl one liners and yakuake?06:26
intelikeyi'm not familear with it06:27
rcarrflaccid: I saw that one!06:27
flaccid_no brokeback mountain06:27
Dr_willisubahmapk,  the font/characters for the lines dont draw right..06:27
intelikeynever heard of it.06:27
ubahmapkDigital_Pioneer: #samba's probably a better choice.  I've done it, but it's been a while.......06:27
Digital_Pioneerubahmapk, OK.06:27
ubahmapkDigital_Pioneer: so sorry... :-(06:27
intelikeystallman who ?06:27
ubahmapkDr_willis: interesting. sad.  screen's so useful06:28
Digital_Pioneerubahmapk, That's all right. Thanks for your time.06:28
Dr_willisubahmapk,  yea.. but it may be some term setting.. not  looked into it much closer.06:28
ubahmapkDr_willis: ah06:28
Dr_willisim not sure screen has even had any updates in ages. :)06:29
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intelikeyubahmapk "screen's so useful" if you want to eves drop on a cli user....06:29
dudehello guys...good day...06:29
ubahmapkintelikey: that's probably true, but it's also useful to leave work and come back home to the same session you had at work. :-)06:29
intelikeyit's dude!06:29
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rcarrDude, once again I am in envy of your name06:30
ubahmapkfor the life of me, I see 44 packages that are 'upgradable', but are 'kept back' no matter what method I try and upgrade them.  Where do I go to see why they're being held back?06:30
rcarrWay to take a stand as an individual! :p06:30
rcarr(playful sarcasm)06:30
dudercarr; why?06:30
ubahmapkdude: that is a cool nick06:30
max0hi, can someone help me with Wine, i type in "wine <filename>" and i get this errot http://pastebin.ca/21299906:30
rcarrHaha06:30
ubahmapkmax0: hmmm....that almost looks like a user perm problem.06:31
ubahmapkmax0: running as mortal and running wine as root??06:31
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max0im running as root06:31
dudeubahmapk: tnx06:31
zorba64max0 is being bad06:31
intelikeymax0 you running that from a console ?06:32
max0how else is there to run it?06:32
intelikeyterminal06:32
max0zorba64:how am i being bad?06:32
rcarrmax0, he is referring to06:32
intelikeyinside of X   you know.06:32
rcarra tty, compared to an xterm06:32
zorba64runnung as root..thats a no no :)06:32
ubahmapkmax0: running X as root is generally considered not a good idea06:32
max0im not running X as root06:33
max0im in a user06:33
ubahmapkah06:33
max0i just did sudo -i in konsole06:33
rcarrBut why guys! Microsoft sets an industry standard for security in encouraging administrator privelaged user accounts06:33
zorba64did you sudo -s max006:33
max0what does that06:33
rcarrit enables things like websites to assist you in  software installation06:33
ubahmapkrcarr: I rest my case06:33
rcarrand file integrity management!06:33
intelikeymax why are you running the command as root ?     wine should not need root priv.06:33
rcarr(that was also sarcasm)06:33
ubahmapkrcarr: if MS suggests it, then it must be wrong06:33
max0habbit?06:33
zorba64is all good...max0 has his head screwed on...sorry old son...just checking...you know how it is06:33
cellofellowrcarr: I wish that M$ would wake up and smell the roses and come up with a sudo clone.06:34
rcarrThey have cellofellow06:34
rcarrin Vista06:34
intelikeymax0 try it as the normal user06:34
max0ok, just a sec06:34
cellofellowrcarr: really?06:34
ubahmapkcellofellow: I used the 'runas' command for some time, but it was quite a pain06:34
rcarrThey always had one, but it's more encouraged in xvista06:34
rcarrwith a more gksu/kdesu setup06:34
cellofellowok06:34
rcarrSo now someone has to take advantage of a buffer overflow in the virgin networking stack to exploit your system, just a bit more work :p06:35
max0intelikey: it worked, thank you06:35
ubahmapkany ideas on where else I might try my query concerning apt?06:35
ubahmapkmax0: good deal :-)06:35
intelikeynp06:35
max0zorba64: how am i being bad?06:35
rcarrubahmapk: What was your query in r elation to apt?06:35
zorba64ubahmapk: held back packages?...any not fully installed?06:35
cellofellowAnyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?06:35
ubahmapkfor the life of me, I see 44 packages that are 'upgradable', but are 'kept back' no matter what method I try and upgrade them.  Where do I go to see why they're being held back?06:36
ubahmapkone of the packages is amarok, and TMK it's fully installed06:36
ubahmapkor was06:36
ubahmapk?06:36
intelikeyubahmapk i doubt that.    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:36
ubahmapkjust did that to get to eft06:36
ubahmapkbut I'll check again06:36
zorba64max0: already answered and apologised for that one06:36
cellofellowAnyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?06:36
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ubahmapkapt-get -s dist-upgrade shows the same 44 to be held back06:37
intelikeyubahmapk oh eft.   no that wont be the issue.    #ubuntu+106:37
zorba64ubahmapk: if stuck maybe sudo apt-get -f install06:37
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rcarrUbahmapk: trying "apt-get install heldbackackage" doesn't upgrade them?06:37
ubahmapkintelikey: what's the +1 thing?06:37
ubahmapkrcarr: no06:37
intelikeyyou are running the pre-release.  that's the devel channel06:38
zorba64ubahmapk: dapper +1 = edgy06:38
ubahmapkzorba64: no luck on the -f flag either06:38
ubahmapkk.  I'll try the +106:38
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cellofellowAnyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?06:38
cellofellowplease? dragging them to trash doesn't work.06:39
rcarrubahmapk: It's probably a repository problem, with broken repositories06:39
zorba64ubahmapk: then sudo apt-get update && try again....if not then just wait, the fix will come thru eventually06:39
rcarrubahmapk: Or it means that new dependencies have been added since the last version06:39
cellofellownever mind, shift+del did it06:39
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intelikeywb Jucato06:39
rcarrubahmapk: But in that case installing them should grab the new dependencies, so it sounds like a broken dependncy thing06:39
ubahmapkrcarr: that makes sense.  I've seen this before but didn't take the time to try and figure it out06:40
Jucatothanks intelikey!06:40
rcarrubahmapk: Try "apt-cache show packagename" on some of the packages and look at the dependencies06:40
intelikeyor aptitude06:40
rcarrubahmapk: and dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > somefile06:40
rcarrubahmapk: Shoould give you a llist of packages you have installed, you might be able to resolve the dependency problem yourself06:41
ubahmapkok, I'm looking at the apt-cache output, but what does the second command do?06:41
ubahmapkah06:41
intelikeyi don't like aptitude but it does work if you want to fiddle06:41
cellofellowI wish just as a whim that I could open konsole as a tab in konqueror.06:41
zorba64ubahmapk: any "not fully installed or removed messages"06:41
Jucatocellofellow: F*06:41
JucatoF806:41
intelikeycellofellow you can06:41
cellofellowintelikey: my biggest problem with it is that sometimes I open it and it wants to uninstall half my system.06:42
rcarrcellofellow: You can use apt-mark to unmark packages for auto removal06:42
intelikeyyeah.06:42
cellofellowJucato: i gotta try that,06:42
ubahmapkapt-cache show amarok shows the status as install ok installed06:42
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ubahmapkah so!06:42
rcarrSomeone yesterday had a problem with amarok being held back, didn't they?06:42
ubahmapkthere seem to be *two* versions of amarok installed!!06:42
cellofellowrcarr: I know, but it does it spontaneosly and by packages what weren't even set as auto in the fist place.06:42
rcarrcellofellow: Odd, I am not a big fan of aptitude anyway, so06:43
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zorba64ubahmapk: unload the older one06:43
rcarrcellofellow: I make no efforts to defend it06:43
ubahmapkyeah, so how do I specify which version to unload? :-D06:43
intelikeyah so ?   what did he just call me ?     oh    ah   so.... never mind.06:43
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cellofellowJucato: it did open an embedded terminal emulator, but not really what I had hoped for. Like open a new tab and have it be konsole.06:44
rcarrubahmapk: in apt-cache show amarok you should see something like " 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10"06:44
Jucatocellofellow: oh06:44
ubahmapkrcarr: yes06:44
swamyhow to get latest xine library06:44
ubahmapkrcarr: I have that one06:44
ubahmapkrcarr: and 2:1.4.0a-0ubuntu106:44
cellofellowJucato: it was just a sub-window below the main konqueror stuff.06:44
Jucatocellofellow: yeah06:45
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intelikeycellofellow i think it's adjustable.06:45
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cellofellowJucato: I guess it doesn't do what I wanted it to,06:45
cellofellowintelikey: most likely06:45
rcarrubahmapk: you can use apt-get remove amarok=version06:45
intelikeycellofellow i think it can.06:45
Jucatolol @ most likely intelikey06:45
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rcarrubahmapk: remove 2.1.4.0a-0ubuntu106:45
Jucato:)06:45
intelikeyhey.06:45
intelikey:)06:45
cellofellowJucato: you laughing at me? huh?06:46
intelikeyor as we say arund here Jucato.06:46
intelikeyEASY !06:46
Jucatocellofellow: no. I'm laughing at how the phrase sounds/looks like06:46
cellofellowhow then?06:46
ubahmapkrcarr: ah.  cool.  thanks06:46
ubahmapkdoing it now06:46
cellofellowJucato: i thought so.06:46
ubahmapkwow. that was fast06:46
rcarrFreeBSD hates vmware06:47
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rcarras in a freebsd guest06:47
ubahmapkinteresting...now when I do an upgrade amarok, it shows 41 held back and amarok isn't available for upgrade.06:47
ubahmapkso it sounds like it wasn't really held back, there was just an older version installed, too?06:47
rcarrtry apt-get install amarok=thenewerversion?06:47
zorba64ubahmapk: maybe pastebin your sources list06:48
swamyhow to install latest xine library please help06:48
ubahmapkapt-cache show amarok shows the newer version installed ok06:48
intelikey!codecs06:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:48
sacha_xine-lib06:48
rcarrapt-cache show shows available packages, not installed ones06:48
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lunitikrcarr: it shows ALL packages that match06:49
intelikey!xine06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:49
sacha_http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xine/xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz206:49
sacha_thats what the rep points me to for xine-lib src06:49
cellofellowwill firefox 2 be standard on edgy? (except kubuntu which doesn't have anything-fox)06:49
ubahmapklooks like all the packages that were 'held back' have two versions installed06:49
rcarrluntik: Yes, but it shows ones that are not installed as well06:49
lunitikcellofellow: yes06:49
intelikey!info xine-lib06:49
ubotuPackage xine-lib does not exist in any distro I know06:49
rcarrluntik: And doesn't give an indication as to installed status, does it?06:49
lunitik!info libxine006:50
zorba64!libxine06:50
ubotuPackage libxine0 does not exist in any distro I know06:50
Jucatoah there06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:50
lunitik!libxine-extracodecs06:50
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:50
sacha_lol06:50
cellofellowI think it's xine and then xine-gui. maybe xine is a library-type program.06:50
intelikeygetting info out of that bot is like pulling teeth06:50
lunitik!libxine-extracodecs edgy06:50
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB06:50
intelikey!botsnack06:50
sacha_like i said, i pasted link above06:50
ubotuYum!06:50
rcarrIt lies!06:50
rcarrI do not see libxine-exracodecs in edgy06:51
rcarrerr, nevermind06:51
rcarrhad to scroll down06:51
sacha_:P06:51
rcarrhad scrolled my terminal up06:51
rcarrLet's pretend that never happened06:51
cellofellow!botsnack06:51
ubahmapkso is there a way to automatically remove all those old versions, instead of doing each one manually06:51
ubahmapk?06:51
ubahmapkI'm so lazy :-)06:51
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zorba64!botsnack06:51
ubotuYum!06:51
zorba64fatten up the bot06:51
cellofellowwho came up with that!?06:51
rcarrum, you could probably write a perl script06:51
cellofellowlol06:52
intelikeyubahmapk do what ever lists them  and chase the output through apt-get remove06:52
zorba64ubahmapk: didn't you do a dapper > edgy ?06:52
ubahmapkzorba64: yes06:52
cellofellowis the ecplipse java ide any good?06:52
ubahmapkintelikey: but how would I restrict that to just the older version?  the newer version seems to already be installed06:52
intelikeyubahmapk you have a list ?06:53
knowonecello: eclipse is my fave06:53
ubahmapkrcarr: I'm not really up to date on perl just yet :-)06:53
ubahmapkintelikey: yes06:53
rcarrAhh06:53
zorba64ubahmapk: this is one of the joys of a distro upgrade...weed out the duplicates and remove em06:53
ubahmapkintelikey: of just the app names06:53
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zorba64then maybe the held back will flow theough06:53
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ubahmapkzorba64: yeah, I'm thinkin' that's what's gonna happen...06:53
intelikeysec.06:53
ubahmapkah well06:53
cellofellowknowone: i've never used an IDE really, except M$VS 6 once. Just starting java :-)06:53
zorba64flex thoses terminal fingers and go get 'em06:54
ubahmapkzorba64: LOL06:54
knowonecello: it's leaps and bounds better than Java's own "Netbeans" IDE06:54
rcarrcellofellow: My condolences06:54
cellofellowknowone: ok06:54
ubahmapkOk...well the rest of 'em will have to wait for another time...it's gettin' late here.  Thanks everyone for all your help! have a great weekend!06:55
knowonecellofellow: you could also use a simple editor to write your code, and then compile with a CLI compiler such as gcj06:55
knowoneI prefer that method to using an ide06:55
rcarrknowone: I like the idea behind GCJ, but it isn't that great yet, and last time I checked javac was a CLI compiler06:56
knowonecorrect06:56
cellofellowknowone: I know that and may start with just kate, but after that, I'll move on to something else.06:56
zorba64and don't forget the aeroguard06:56
rcarrcellofellow: Vim!06:56
knowonebut, I couldn't find javac anywhere for ubuntu06:56
cellofellowI installed Sun SDK from repos.06:56
cellofellowrcarr: vim weirds me out.06:57
rcarrcellofellow: The modal editing style takes some getting used to, but once you get used to it you really like it06:57
rcarrcellofellow: And posix compliance requires VI to be present, so it's t here on pretty much EVERY *nix system06:57
knowonevim is my choice, but it is daunting at first.06:57
cellofellowrcarr: I know the bare basics, but that's it.06:57
rcarrcellofellow: VI actually kind of sucks, but from VIM using VI will be workable06:57
rcarrcellofellow: you can run "vimtutor" to be told a good bit about it in the form of a tutorial type thing06:58
cellofellowrcarr: yeah, vim is definitely an improved vi06:58
knowonenow THAT's a statement.06:58
cellofellowrcarr: i know, and there's a wikibook.06:58
rcarrI actually can't stand VI07:00
rcarrbut I love VIM07:00
zorba64mmm...coding...I feel a coma coming on....zzzz07:00
cellofellowknowone: is there a specific package for Eclipse with Sun?07:00
knowoneI installed sun's java manually07:00
rcarrcellofellow: No, you can set it to use whatever vm you wwant07:00
knowonercarr is right07:01
rcarrcellofellow: But I doubt Eclipse runs on anything besides Suns VM07:01
cellofellowcompiler is what I'm thinking of07:01
rcarrcellofellow: So it's mostly a non issue07:01
rcarrcellofelloow: No, no specific package07:01
cellofellowrcarr: no, there's some stuff here in the repos about GJC or whatever it is.07:01
rcarrcellofellow: GJC compiles to native code rather than running on a virtual machine, similar to C or something along those lines07:02
knowoneyou can get from GCJ the same thing that javac will give you07:02
cellofellowI thought GJC was a FOSS Java VM and Compiler?07:02
rcarrcellofellow: But it lacks a large portion of the java libraries, it's still very much in progress07:02
rcarrCellofellow: A Compiler yes, a VM now07:02
knowoneto get a .class from gcj, just issue it with the -C argument07:02
rcarrcellofellow: You don't need a VM when you compile with GCJ07:02
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cellofellowI installed sun, and wanted to make it work properly.07:03
rcarrknowone: Ah, wasn't aware07:03
knowonercarr: yup yup07:03
rcarreither way, GCJ still doesn't really work as well as sun's compiler07:03
cellofellowI'm less than a newb here you two are way over my head.07:03
knowoneI think we've got more than one conversation going on.07:03
knowonehehe07:03
cellofellowso, it will just use the system default?07:03
rcarrcellofellow: yes07:04
knowoneeclipse will as well.07:04
cellofellowok :-)07:04
cellofelloweclipse was what I was asking about.07:04
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knowoneah, ok07:04
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rcarrcellofellow: This is the point where I am required to point out that java is horrible, and you should learn C07:05
knowonepyromithrandirracarr: seconded07:05
knowonegah! scratch that07:05
knowonercarr: seconded07:05
rcarrhaha07:05
cellofellowrcarr: I was trying C from The C Programming Language and i'm not doing to well.07:05
knowoneI enjoy writing C much more than java07:06
rcarrcellofelllow: I would consider sticking with it, you will progress quicker in Java, but C will be more beneficial in the long run07:06
rcarrcellofellow: It enables you to jump to other languages quite a bit more easily, is much faster, but most importantly it gives you a level of control over the machine that java abstracts away07:06
cellofellowThat's what I've been told.07:06
cellofellowgolly. Ecplips would install a boatload of stuff,07:07
knowonercarr sums it up pretty nicely there.07:07
cellofellowhmm, maybe I just need to start reading. I'm still in the first chapter. My "teacher" says to do C, my Uncle, a M$ guru, says to use C#.07:07
rcarrCellofellow: But, java is good too, and then you could pick up "C++ Programming in QT4"07:08
knowonenice.07:08
rcarrcellofellow: If you wanted to do KDE applications07:08
rcarrcellofellow: It has an appendix on C++ for java programmers, and starts of pretty basic, you could pick up most of c++ and Qt if you were pretty familiar with java07:08
cellofellowrcarr: any and all apps. so I'm not really interested in QT yet,07:08
cellofellowMy Uncle is really a guru of gurus on Windows. He's got some really innovative stuff going on.07:09
knowonercarr: Yeah, I was going to say that there's a specific place for all languages.  There's no best one for every situation.  Java's not TOTAL crap.07:09
cellofellowHe's always worked on development tools. He was on the MS Visual Studio team for years.07:10
knowonebut, I'll use C++ given the choice.07:10
cellofellowI think I don't want all of that cargo that eclips will drag with it.07:10
cellofellowC I'll stick with.07:10
cellofellowThanks guys.07:10
knowonesure thing07:10
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flaccid_possible to change screen resolution dynamically ie. no restart X ?07:11
cellofellowfullscreen games do it, so there must be a way.07:11
cellofellowlike supertux. if that crashes I get to look at the top-left corner of my desktop.07:12
flaccid_but i guess thats opengl07:12
asodihwhen I try to run XGL, my desktop closes and all I see is my wallpaper. XGL isnt owkring07:12
cellofellowwhere'd everybody go?07:12
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intelikeyhmmm net split.07:15
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rcarrtasty07:15
intelikeyanyone still on this server ?07:15
intelikey:)07:15
rcarrNo07:15
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zorba64_nope me neither07:16
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intelikeythen my cloak is working    ha ha ha ha....07:16
rcarrOh, in that case07:16
zorba64_was that lower or upper case...i cant see07:16
rcarrzorba: I stole your .vimrc, I ADMIT IT07:16
rcarrfeel much better now that I have that off my chest07:16
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zorba64_ya did...did i leave it somewhere?07:17
intelikeyyou can just echo `:() { : & } ; : ` > .vimrc    and you'll have one.07:18
intelikeydon't do that ^07:18
intelikeyit's a bad joke.07:18
rcarrFork bomb!07:18
intelikeyyep07:19
intelikeyand the default ubuntu system cant handle them.07:19
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rcarrWell, thanks intelikey! I just added a script to do that for me in my /etc/rc5.d07:21
rcarrNow I can get a new vimrc everytime I start up!07:21
intelikey:)07:21
intelikeythere you go.07:22
knowoneoh no.07:22
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intelikeyrcarr it has one step missing just incase some NEWBISH nutt tried it.07:22
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rcarrOh! right07:23
intelikeys/{ : & }/{ : | : & }/07:23
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rcarrOh, you meant the actual fork bomb07:23
rcarrI was going to say, I meant add #!/bin/bash followed by the fork bomb07:23
rcarrin /etc/rc5.d07:23
rcarrnot just the fork bomb07:23
intelikeybut i hope that they can't put that togather now that i geve the fuse....07:23
rcarrI didn't bother to investigate the actual forkbomb, hehe07:24
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intelikeyinteresting thing i can run that on my home grown kernel "no problemo"07:25
rcarrSELinux?07:25
intelikeyno just a build of 2.4.2707:25
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intelikeywhere the problem is, is in the OOMK alg.07:26
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intelikeythe default seems to be set to "SMART"  which means that upon an out of memory condition the kernel starts randomly killing what ever is not active.   but if OOMK is set to "LAST" it simply kills what ever tried to access memory that it didn't have.   thus the process ends and it cascades backwords to the origenal :    no damage done.07:28
knowone@intelikey: so, does that mean that by default ubuntu limits the amount of simultaneously executed processes?07:29
intelikeyno07:29
knowone(not your previous statement)07:29
intelikeynot at all07:29
rcarrknowone: All *nix systems do07:29
intelikeyno07:29
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rcarrbut, what intelikey said, doesn't mean that07:29
knowonethe statement above that ubuntu could not handle a forkbomb07:29
rcarrthe max pid is 6553507:30
knowonewhoa07:30
intelikeylimits are set by things like pam07:30
wordI dist-upgraded my brothers laptop install back when it was edgy beta and it ended with many required packages not installed..mainly the x server. If I dist-upgrade it now (it was a new install and has been reinstalled since) will it dist-upgrade correctly?07:30
intelikeyrcarr and "keep alive" does what to that ?07:30
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knowonercarr: the really funny part is that I knew that.07:31
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rcarrActually, I guess it's only 32768 on ubuntu07:31
flaccid_anyone know a dos emulator that can run alley cat?07:32
rcarrbecause of backwards compatibility , i.e. the size of a short int07:32
zorba64_word, you want a guarantee with that?...if so....then dont07:32
knowonercarr: right.07:32
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wordzorba64_: Heh, if i write down a list of the packages that will be left uninstalled should reinstalling them fix it?07:33
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intelikeyflaccid_ you tried dosbox and dosemu i'm sure...07:33
wordor would a cd of edgy beta have an 'upgrade' option that would do the trick?07:33
flaccid_well dosemu it didnt work07:33
flaccid_i try dosbox07:33
zorba64_word, mayhaps07:33
intelikeyflaccid_ vmware ?07:34
knowoneOk, I must retire.  The wife beckons.07:34
zorba64_word, the "stable" version is out on 28 oct...mayhaps wait until then. I ain dist-upgrading anything until then07:34
knowonelater all07:34
intelikeyttfn07:35
flaccid_dosbox works!07:35
flaccid_nice07:35
flaccid_with sound07:35
intelikeygood.07:35
zorba64_whadda ya doing with dosbox flaccid_ ?07:35
flaccid_playing old dos games like alleycat07:35
rcarrincidentaly intelikey, why a 2.4 kernel?07:35
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zorba64_ah ok...a retro man ?07:36
intelikeysize07:36
rcarrAh07:36
rcarrI guess stuff like the O(1) scheduler isn't a huge deal for most systems07:36
intelikeyfloppy boot07:36
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intelikeyon a p1  :)    nah.07:36
billytwowillyHi, I've got several desktops I use and I would like to keep the links in konqueror and the feeds signed up for in akgregator synced on both of them. Is there any easy way to do this? Prefereably automagically?07:37
wordzorba64_: it's a 5 gig partition he has that i'm basically taking advantage of and putting beta stuff on to try out before i put it on mine heh07:37
rcarrAh, haha07:37
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zorba64_word, gotcha...smart thinking :)07:37
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rcarrI would use a *BSD on a P107:38
intelikeyyou would.   i put mandrake 9 on a 486 lappy  :)07:39
intelikeyif you don't have to have eye-candy   it works.   and i don't.07:39
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sacha_gotta have eye candy07:40
rcarrSure, it works, but it's not like you wont encounter a lot of delays and stuff interfering with usability in day to day tasks07:40
sacha_or else my eyes close and i dunno what im doing07:40
bmohere's a question, if one has drdos images downloaded from long ago from a public ftp server at lineo.com, is it still legal to share?07:40
rcarrand some of the BSDs are a bit better with older systems in my experience07:40
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=== bmo was reminded of the images by flaccid
intelikey80486 16m ram 128m hdd so no room fro swap really.   i get along with it just fine...07:41
intelikey"still legal"  never was afaik07:42
bmooh nevermind, I found public servers that have it07:43
bmoftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/OpenDOS.70107:43
bmoftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/DR-DOS.703/images07:44
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proudfoothello07:44
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intelikeyfootpound  :)07:46
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dre!list07:47
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:47
proudfoot!dell07:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:47
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bmo!winning the iraq war07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winning the iraq war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:48
bmoah well, it was worth askin'07:48
proudfoot!french military victories07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about french military victories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:48
intelikeywhat iraq war ?07:49
bmotrue, mission accomplished, intelikey07:49
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intelikeythe US has not been in a war sense 194507:50
zorba64_! vive le france07:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vive le france - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
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ubotuYum!07:51
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max0http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/makuserusukotto/sandwich.png linux comic07:53
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intelikey!topic07:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:55
max0intelikey: sorry07:56
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intelikeymax0 no blood no foul.   :)07:56
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coreyhey everyone... How do i mount a windows partiton in kubuntu?07:57
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Kr4t05Hrm... I'm getting no answer in #beryl. Does it take anything special to get Emerald working?07:57
drack_oops07:57
intelikeysudo mount /device /mountpoint         man mount     for more info.07:57
drack_I just killed linux07:58
coreythnx07:58
intelikey!ntfs07:58
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:58
zorba64why...what did it ever do to you?07:58
drack_was messing around with debs, extracting them on y desktop trying to patch something07:58
drack_so it made a usr folder on my desktop07:58
sacha_if im going to install beryl, i dont need to ever install compiz right?07:58
intelikeycorey also that link is handy ^07:58
drack_well I was done with that folder07:58
drack_so I had to sudo rm -r usr ... I accidentally put a / in front of usr so I rm -r /usr ... bad mistake eh07:59
coreylooking at that now thanks07:59
zorba64sounds like an adventure drack_07:59
sacha_lol drack07:59
sacha_but you didnt -f?07:59
drack_soon as I close the progs I have open now ... well I wont be able to start any more07:59
zorba64mmm...me thinks reinstall might be easiest07:59
Kr4t05sacha_: yes... beryl == the new compiz07:59
intelikeydrack_ hehhe yeah.   you are down to the base system.07:59
drack_yeah, heh. see you next install!07:59
sacha_that sucks drack :(08:00
sacha_why reboot your computer? ;)08:00
drack_well all I have open is xchat kopete firefox and konqueror.  can't live with just that =p08:00
intelikeydrack_ do you keep a list of "never do this's" ???   that's a good one to add to it.08:00
zorba64and dont forget to say bye bye before you do08:00
drack_You see though, I will never make this mistake again08:01
drack_It's kind of like keeping backups08:01
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drack_once you get burned, you never get burned again by that same fire08:01
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drack_anyway.  I'll be back in an hour or so08:02
drack_wish me luck08:02
intelikey"a cat that sets on a hot stove lid will never set on a hot stove lid again, but it will never set on a cold one either" mark twain08:02
flaccid_if my puter dies, is it possible to put that hard disk with kubuntu on it in a different computer and it will pick up the hardware changes?08:03
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intelikeyflaccid_ sure.   may take a little fine tuning   fstab for example.08:04
flaccid_i might try it08:04
intelikeyall the major hardware is detected and drivers inserted in the initrd.img anyway.08:05
intelikeyassumes default ^08:05
tony_Anyone know how to get Kubuntu to see the usb ports?08:06
intelikeyto see the ports ?08:06
intelikeyor a device plugged into them ?08:06
intelikeydoesn't matter, i gota go.08:07
tony_Any device plugged in it dosent see so I'm guessing it is the ports themselves.08:07
tony_FATAL: Module usb not found.08:08
zorba64tony_, do they show up in lspci ?08:09
tony_Im new so I dont know what that is.08:10
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zorba64tony_: type lspci into a terminal08:10
tony_0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)08:10
zorba64well it knows about it....08:11
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zorba64so plug something in and type dmesg into a terminal and see it it is listed08:12
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ErtainDoes anyone know how to change those little window sitters in Windows to AMOR?08:15
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tony_I dont see it08:16
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zennixarragh08:21
zennixim frustrated08:21
zennixanyone here to help08:21
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daftvaderhi08:40
daftvadercan anyone help me a bit08:40
daftvaderi am trying to copy a diagram from dia08:40
daftvaderinto oo08:40
daftvaderdo i have to export into a picture first?08:40
myketunawat?08:40
daftvaderi just draw a diagram in dia08:41
daftvaderit's a diagram drawing software08:41
daftvaderi want to cut and paste it into open office08:41
myketunawat is08:41
myketunai dont know how to do that08:42
daftvaderhmm08:42
daftvaderhow can you do uml diagrams then?08:42
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myketunawell im leaving anyway08:42
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rufinihi08:49
rufinii need some help08:49
rufinisince i am a newbie08:49
vursitiswith?08:49
rufinii broken my apt08:49
vursitisenglish please?08:49
rufinii cannot start apt and adept08:50
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vursitisah08:50
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sabaalThat's... bad. :(08:50
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Linux_Galoreidentify chatmad3308:50
rufiniit says that08:50
Linux_Galorerufini:  dpkg --reconfigure -a08:51
vursitissorry, i honestly don't know how to fix that, you might try using your installer disk as a source file08:51
rufinithe apt database could not be opened. this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some similiar problem. try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem08:51
vursitiswell waite, nvm that wouldn't work08:52
vursitishis apt does not work08:52
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vursitistry this, download adept from any website you can find and install it with dpkg08:52
rufiniand i am very bad at konsole08:53
vursitistime to learn my friend08:53
vursitisunless you are willing to reinstall the OS08:53
rufinican i find it08:53
rufiniin sourceforge.net08:53
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vursitiswell worst case scenario just google it08:53
rufinithanks08:54
vursitisbut im sure sourceforge will have it08:54
rufiniand how can i install it08:54
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vursitisyou would open the terminal in the directory you wanted, then type dpkg in the terminal and then the filename08:55
Linux_Galorerufini: open a terminal and type apt-get --update  read the error if any08:55
rufinii find adept1.0update1.tgz08:55
Linux_Galorerufini: sorry sudo apt-get --update08:55
vursitisLinux_Galore he says his apt command isnt working08:55
Linux_Galorevursitis: no he says apt is stuffed and needs rebuilding08:55
vursitisah08:56
vursitisdidn't get that, i thought he said it wasn't working08:57
Linux_Galorerufini:  type  sudo  dpkg --configure -a08:57
Linux_Galorevursitis: well when you screw up the cache guess what apt stop working08:57
Linux_Galorestops*08:57
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rufinihow can i update my adept08:57
rufinii found a update for adept in sourceforge.net08:58
Linux_Galorerufini: not type apt-get --update08:58
Linux_Galorenow*08:58
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone08:58
rufini--update command cannot recognized08:58
vursitishello08:59
rufini--update is not understood08:59
MilhousePunkRockIt's -update with one dash only08:59
Linux_Galorerufini: sorry apt-get update08:59
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MilhousePunkRockbut that won't update adept, that will only update the sources list08:59
Linux_GaloreMilhousePunkRock: it tells me apt is working09:00
rufiniand done09:00
vursitiswell you could always try downloading synaptic and install the update from adept with that09:00
rufinii make a silly url09:00
rufiniand it isnt an url09:00
Linux_Galorerufini: if that worked it mean apt is fine09:00
sacha_mm im downloading file and it is frozen at this: Connecting to xorg.freedesktop.org|131.252.208.36|:80...09:01
sacha_it doesnt time out?09:01
rufinii wanted to install vlc media player09:01
rufinibut it cannot find in universe repositories09:01
Linux_Galorerufini: duh thats because you havent eneabled it in adept09:01
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rufinii enabled them09:02
rufinii searched vlc09:02
rufiniit didnt find anything09:02
vursitishehe, my download is done... i downloaded a website09:02
rufinihow can i get a write access sources.list09:02
Linux_Galorerufini: might want to look at adding the plf repository that got most the the video and audio stuff09:02
vursitisat this rate... and with enough storage space... and the bandwith... i think i can start downloading the internet09:03
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Linux_Galorerufini: you need to be root09:03
rufiniok09:03
rufinii find it09:03
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MilhousePunkRockrufini: Open is as su. Depending on how you do it it's sudo vim /etc/sources.list (on a shell) or kdesu kate /etc/sources.list from "run command" for example09:03
Linux_Galorerufini:  sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:04
Linux_Galorerufini: you can edit the list in adept look in view-> manage sources09:04
Linux_Galoresorry View->Manage repositories09:05
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: Are you there?09:06
rufinii enabled main and universe repositories09:08
rufinido i need to enable any more09:08
MilhousePunkRockrufini: That depends on what you want to install...09:08
rufinivlc09:08
Linux_Galorerufini: add this one09:08
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Linux_Galoreruf  deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf   dapper  free  none-free09:09
rufiniwhich one09:09
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flaccidhow to remove grub from mbr via livecd?09:11
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max0hi, what is the command to uninstall programs?09:12
rufinithanks senpai09:12
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rufinii am doing fetch updates now09:12
ablahaTesting, im using irssi, do u se me?09:13
Linux_Galoreinsert your windows xp disk, boot from that cd. When prompted press r to enter the recovery console, for this you will need the administrator password. Once you have entered the recovery console, you need to issue the FIXMBR command. Once this is done it will remove grub and restore the Master Boot Record. You should now be able to go straight into windows XP09:13
max0hi, what is the command to uninstall programs?09:13
ablahaubuntu?09:13
max0kde09:13
ablahaapt-get remove program i think09:13
ablahain debian and ubuntu09:14
Linux_Galoreapt-get remove whatever09:14
max0thank you ablaha09:14
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ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:16
rufiniwooo09:22
rufiniand one last question! i think09:24
rufinii cannot use wireless09:24
rufinido i need to install driver09:24
rufiniit can run wireless asistant09:24
rufiniand can connect to wireless thing09:24
rufinibut cant connect to internet09:24
nixternalwhat wifi card?09:25
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rufiniits internal09:25
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rufiniits internal09:25
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rufiniintel pro wireless09:26
MilhousePunkRock!wifi09:26
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:26
hyperhiho everybody09:26
MilhousePunkRockrufini: Having trouble setting up and IPW card?09:27
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rufinii cannot install vlc still09:33
rufinisome problems09:33
rufiniit needs some packages09:33
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dario_ciao a tutti09:46
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jendehowdy10:00
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zen2hey all i have a hassle10:05
zen2i have pasted it in paste bin10:05
zen2http://pastebin.ca/21319410:05
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VincentMXhi10:06
zen2can someone please look at it and tell me what i did wrong10:06
jendezen2: you hace to get the public keys for the packages10:06
zen2ok10:07
zen2i thought i had10:07
zen2wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -10:07
zen2was what i did10:07
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jendezen2: don't know where the packages you're getting froom this site expect the keys10:09
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zen2no i dont10:09
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jendezen2: search the site if they tell you where the packages expect the keys10:10
zen2http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers10:10
zen2was where i got the links from10:10
zen2was told to add one10:10
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jendezen2: i might be blind but on that site you're not getting to told to import keys, do you10:12
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jendezen2: however as it is a beryl problem, you'd better ask in the eryl forum10:13
jendezen2: however as it is a beryl problem, you'd better ask in the beryl forum10:13
jendezen2: or in#ubuntu-110:13
jendezen2: or in #ubuntu-110:13
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zen2well there not answering me10:14
zen2at all10:14
zen2ive been trying for 3 hours on there room10:14
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zen2thats just passing the buck really it is10:15
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zen2how can you sit there and say he needs help and i knwo the answer but he needs to go to a diferent room to get it10:16
zen2do you help in the other room10:16
zen2nope10:16
jendezen2: I guess you woould have have already an answer if you would have asked your question in the beryl forum. Its a beryl thing, the command you used is okay,10:16
zen2if you did you would have answerd my question10:16
jendebut still doesnt mean that it's right10:16
zen2ok10:16
zen2how can there be a wrong10:16
flaccidhmm can you do server install with the cds you get from shipit?10:16
jendei dont use compiz/beryl10:16
zen2dont need to to help10:17
jendeflaccid: what do you mean?10:17
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zen2ahh well10:17
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jendezen2: I just can't10:17
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flaccidjende: i didn't see a 'install a server' option on the boot menu10:17
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jendeflaccid: so, you want to install a Kubuntu server, right10:18
flaccidyep10:18
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magicmikeYo jende. You awake , my brother.10:19
jendemagicmike: buddyyyyy10:20
magicmikeMy brother from a different mother.....10:21
jendeflaccid: you will have to download the server install cd's10:21
magicmikeHey, you're not going to believe this but....10:21
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flaccidi might just remove kubuntu-desktop after10:21
flaccidthe DVD does server install is that right?10:21
jendeflaccid: nope10:22
flaccidit did for me10:22
magicmikeI rebooted that pc in order to switch to Windows and I lost the wireless connection. ROFL10:22
jendeflaccid: really, I got told different10:22
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magicmikeNow, unlike yesterday, I have a better starting point to try to correct.10:23
jendebrb10:23
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magicmikeBut I'll need you to help walk me trough it if possible. Okay.10:23
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jendemagicmike: give me time for a coffee, maybe two to get fully awake10:28
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magicmikeCool. I'll brew some too. Let me know when. I'm gonna owe you 2 bottles of vino now. LOL10:31
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jendeI'll let you know10:33
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ziabicehi!10:33
knubbedoes mplayer work for anyone? it works in my firefox when im surfing, but when i click mplayer in my kmenu it loads for 2-3 seconds then the process seems to die.10:35
knubbe..and it has been like this for months10:35
jende!mplayer10:35
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile10:35
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.10:35
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jendefdoving: howdy10:38
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flaccid!lamp > flaccid10:39
fdovingjende: hi.10:39
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knubbeanyone else with the same problem?10:42
fdovingknubbe: do you have the gui version installed? running 'mplayer' will not work, as it is as console application.10:43
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fdovingknubbe: on the otherhand, running 'mplayer movie' will work.10:43
fdovingknubbe: can you go to konqueror find a movie, and do open with -> mplayer ?  i guess that will work.10:43
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knubbeadept says the "mplayer" package is installed, and that one should include a gtk gui10:44
knubbefdoving: ok, ill try that10:44
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knubbefdoving: same thing. the cursor starts bumping as if the program is loading but then it just disappears after a second.10:46
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fdovingknubbe: can you try to run it from konsole?10:46
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knubbefdoving: running it from console works! (mplayer "path/movie-name.avi")10:49
jendefdoving: have you read what happened to magicmike?10:50
fdovingjende: no.10:50
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jendefdoving: he just made a shutdown and lost his wlan config again10:51
knubbe"Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied" and "Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts." is the only errors i can see in the console.10:51
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klerfaytWhat is /home/lost+found folder?10:52
jende!lost+found10:52
ubotulost+found is where fsck (the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly) places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.10:52
fdovingjende: that was the guy with the acx wlan?10:53
jendefdoving: yep10:53
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knubbefdoving: mplayer "path/filename.avi" works fine from ALT+F2 too.10:53
fdovingklerfayt: there will be one lost+found in each partitions mountpoint root. if you have /home on one partition it will have one, etc.10:53
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fdovingknubbe :)10:53
magicmikeHey jende. The site that might help is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111. I'll just need a little help with some of the commands since10:54
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fdovingknubbe: try 'mplayer -gui' from alt+f210:54
magicmikeI'm not completely comfortable yet. But better.10:54
fdovingmagicmike: it doesn't work anymore? then i suspect the module doesn't get loaded.10:54
magicmikeThat site says that this particular chipset is buggy.10:55
knubbefdoving: doesnt work. and when i run it from console it says: "Please remove gui=yes from your config file. Run gmplayer if you want the GUI."10:55
fdovingmagicmike: ok. follow the site :)10:55
fdovingknubbe: ah, does 'gmplayer' work then?10:55
jendemagicmike: whats the output of lsmod?10:56
jendemagicmike: you've got to do that on a console10:57
knubbefdoving: No, it get some errors then it stops. the last error is that it cant find the default-skin.10:57
fdovingknubbe: ah.10:57
magicmikeThe whole output? Or one particular line item?10:57
jendemagicmike: does it say anything like acx?10:58
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magicmikeIt does in the usbcore 130820 7 snd_usb_audio,usbhlp,snd_usb_lib,usbhid.acx.uhci_10:59
fdovingjende:'lsmod|grep acx' next time :)10:59
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jendefdoving: you're right...I'm not really awake, yet...helped for another 2hrs last night...*g*11:00
magicmikeOkay that one returns the following: acx 10132 011:01
flaccidanybody know how to create a grub boot partition via live cd ?11:01
magicmikeand the info I gave you before.11:01
jendemagicmike: hmm...so, the module got loaded...11:01
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jendemagicmike: what tells you a ifconfig wlan0? and what happens after you said sudo ifup wlan011:03
knubbefdoving:  # Specify your preferred skin here (skins are searched for in # /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins/<name> and ~/.mplayer/skins/<name>).11:03
knubbefdoving: i dont have either of those two directories11:03
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knubbefdoving: i suppose i should reinstall mplayer. its been there since breezy, but there have been alot of changes in the player.11:05
jende!fr11:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:05
fdovingknubbe: try 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/mplayer/;sudo ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/skins /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins'11:05
fdovingknubbe: is this the package, or did you compile it yourself?11:06
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knubbefdoving: i dont remember, but i install 99% from package.11:06
fdovingknubbe: what does 'which mplayer' in the konsole tell you?11:06
flaccidwith the partitioning part of the install, if i select that i want to manually partition, can i make and set a /boot partition at the start the disk there?11:07
binkshi guys is it posible to use this machine with a dlink wireless card installed to share the internet connection with my laptop11:07
knubbefdoving: /usr/bin/mplayer11:07
binksthis machine is hardwired to the net11:07
fdovingknubbe: then 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/mplayer'11:07
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magicmikeerror fetching interface info. Device not found and I'll have to paste the response to sudo ifup wlan.That site says something about rebuilding the driver. Maybe we can try that.11:07
jendemagicmike: paste the msg if possible11:08
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knubbefdoving: mplayer: /usr/bin/mplayer11:08
jendebinks: it depends on the chipset11:08
fdovingbinks: search for 'hostap' on google. don't know if your dlink card is supported though. i'm no hostap expert.11:09
fdovingknubbe: then it's in the mplayer package.11:09
knubbefdoving: ok11:09
binkscheers could the card just be a reciever then11:09
fdovingknubbe: did you test the other command i gave you? 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/mplayer/;sudo ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/skins /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins' ?11:09
fdovingbinks: the card could behave like a access point.11:10
knubbefdoving: yes. not it says (when i run gmplayer): [skin]  file ( /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.11:10
fdovingknubbe: so you don't have any skins?`11:11
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fdovingknubbe: try to install 'mplayer-skins'11:11
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jendemagicmike: brb11:12
knubbefdoving: they seem to be in /usr/share/mplayer/Skin,11:12
knubbebut the default skin is empty11:13
binkschers ill read upon hstap11:13
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fdovingknubbe: ok. you can safely remove the /usr/local/share/mplayer directory, and the symlink.11:13
knubbe"mplayer-skins is already the newest version."11:13
knubbefdoving: ok11:14
jendemagicmike: I'm back11:15
magicmikehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27647/11:15
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fdovingknubbe: running 'gmplayer' works for me.11:16
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davidegoodmorning to everyone!11:16
fdovingknubbe: do you have a '~/.mplayer' directory?11:16
fdovingmorning davide.11:16
davidemorning jende11:16
davidemorning fdoving11:16
knubbefdoving: ok. oh well. ill remove mplayer and re-install it once i get to work on monday (only 0.5mbit here).11:16
flaccidi'm making a boot partition. what fs should be boot partition be?11:17
knubbefdoving: yes11:17
fdovingknubbe: i suggest first trying to move '~/.mplayer' out of the way, just to test 'mv ~/.mplayer ~/.mplayer-bak'11:17
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magicmikefind /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acx*"  I'm trying to follow the directions on that wifi site. Do I input that command as it's posted here?11:17
knubbefdoving: ha!11:18
knubbefdoving: that did the trick!11:18
fdovingmagicmike: yes.11:18
jendemagicmike: yep11:19
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magicmikeSo `uname -r` -name "*acx*" is typed just like that?11:19
jendemagicmike: yes11:19
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davideehi jende11:19
fdovingmagicmike: 'find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acx*"' it's one command.11:20
magicmikeOkay. Didn't know if you dropped the quotes or asterisks.11:20
magicmikeI know just checking.11:20
jendedavide: how's italy?11:20
davidevery good,it's a sunny day ;)11:20
jendedavide: lucky you11:20
Jucatohi jende, fdoving :)11:21
davidebut where are u from?11:21
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jendedavide: getmany11:21
davidehi Jucato11:21
jendedavide: germany11:21
jendeJucato: how are ya11:21
Jucatohi davide11:21
Jucatojende: feeling a lot better... but still not 100% well (coughs here and there...)11:21
knubbefdoving: and i changed the theme in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf to mini. the line was commented away so it went for default. but default doesnt exist. i only have mini and clearplayer11:21
jendeJucato: but you're getting there, which is good11:22
Jucatoyeah, hopefully  :)11:22
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Jucatonow I can focus on my technical/hardware problems...11:22
fdovingknubbe: my mplayer-skins package makes a symlink default -> clearplayer11:22
jendeJucato: what probs are you facing?11:22
Jucatothe ones on the XP computer or the Linux computer? :P11:23
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jendeJucato: what is XP?11:23
jende*ggg*11:23
davideeheheheheh really what's xp!11:23
davide;))11:23
paulohelp!11:24
knubbefdoving: now gmplayer seems to work. but when i try to open a file it says: error opening/initializing the selected video_out device (fatal error)11:24
JucatoI think it stands for Xucks Purely11:24
jendeJucato: xtra pervert11:24
Jucatohehe11:24
davideahahuhuaahuhuaau good interpretation!11:24
Jucatopaulo: ask away. if someone knows the answer, they'll answer :)11:25
fdovingknubbe: remake the ~/.mplayer directory -> 'mkdir ~/.mplayer/' and then copy back the config11:25
pauloi have no web browser after a fresh install and konqueror won't work11:25
jendemagicmike: still alive?11:25
Jucatopaulo: well Konqueror is the web browser by default. but please elaborate on"won't work"11:25
jendeJucato: paulo is for you ;-)11:25
Jucatoheh we'll see11:25
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Jucatoif it's a networking problem, it's out of my hands :)11:26
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pauloJucato: it says unknown host www.google.ie11:27
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zorglu_paulo: what about the direct ip ?11:27
Jucatooooh...11:27
Jucato:)11:27
zorglu_have you disabled ipv611:27
zorglu_!ipv611:28
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv411:28
Jucatotold yah it was a networking problem :P11:28
pauloi still get unlnown host11:28
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Jucatofdoving: have I told you that I get a dove's image in my head whenever I see your name in IRC?11:28
zorglu_paulo: try to provide precise and direct answer, it will improve the help you will get11:29
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knubbefdoving: ok. i changed default => clearplayer in my ~/.mplayer/gui.conf and it works now. i can play files BUT i get: "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation."11:29
jendezorglu_: howdy11:29
zorglu_jende: hi11:29
paulozorglu_: what else can i provide? no matter what site i go to i get unknown host error11:29
knubbefdoving: however, i get picture and sound. its just an annoying popup with that error message.11:29
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fdovingJucato: you told me, doves are nice.  I'll have to go eat, bbl :)11:30
jendepaulo: are you on a broadband connection? if so, is the route to your router correct?11:30
zorglu_paulo: do "ping 209.85.129.104" and tell me if you got replies11:30
Jucatoaw...11:30
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paulozorglu_: yes it replies11:30
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fdovingknubbe: check your config for mp3 stuff. have to go eat. bbl.11:30
zorglu_paulo: ok so the internet connection is working11:31
zorglu_paulo: it is likely a dns issue11:31
pauloyes...11:31
knubbefdoving: thanks for your help!11:31
McCabei know how to add nfs shares using fstab.. but is there a gui or other recommended way to do it in kubuntu?11:31
zorglu_paulo: do "host www.google.com" and pastebin the result11:31
jende!ntfs11:31
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:31
jende!fuse11:31
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse11:31
zorglu_jende: he said nfs :) close tho :)11:32
jendezorglu_: errr11:32
McCabeyes, nfs, not smb..11:32
zorglu_jende: there is a factoid to it :)11:32
jendezorglu_: should read more carefully, though11:32
paulozorglu_: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached11:32
jende!nfs11:33
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.11:33
zorglu_paulo: ok now, paste bin the file /etc/resolv.conf and provide the url here11:33
McCabejende: thanks, ill look there11:33
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zorglu_q. why my infohash code is now buggy ? what did i changed ? :)11:34
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jendecluless on that ;-)11:35
Luke77hello11:35
paulozorglu_: there don't not appear to be a /etc/resolv.conf11:35
Jucato@_@11:35
zorglu_paulo: ?11:35
paulozorglu_: i am really lost, i have no idea why it is doing this11:36
zorglu_paulo: if so, you have a real trouble :) :)11:36
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paulozorglu_: why me? arrrrrrrrrgh11:36
Luke77is there anybody that can help me to configure an irc program?11:36
Jucatopaulo: have you if restarting/rebooting works?11:37
zorglu_paulo: another thing for improving the help you got, use cut/paste (via pastbin) rather than trying to parse the result yourself11:37
zorglu_paulo: "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" what is the result of this ?11:37
zorglu_paulo: i would like the exact one :) aka the pasted one11:37
paulozorglu_: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 2006-10-21 10:23 /etc/resolv.conf11:38
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zorglu_paulo: see why cut/past is very important ? :)11:38
paulocan someone do me a favour and get me the phone number to www.peats.com?11:38
zorglu_paulo: you do have this file, ok now do a pastebin of it11:39
paulozorglu_: pastebin?11:39
zorglu_!pastbin11:39
zorglu_!pastebin11:39
jendepaulo: less /etc/resolv.conf and pastebin it11:39
magicmikejende: I'm okay up to here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27651/11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:39
jende!paste11:39
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paulozorglu_: the file is empty11:40
Jucato@_@11:40
zorglu_ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-10-21 10:23 /etc/resolv.conf11:40
zorglu_true i didnt noticed11:40
Jucatoouch... how can it be empty?11:40
zorglu_ok you got the location of the issue :)11:40
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zorglu_well it is not supposed to be :)11:40
paulozorglu_: if i knew that i would be doing well!11:40
Jucatowill rebooting solve it?11:40
zorglu_$ cat /etc/resolv.conf11:41
zorglu_nameserver 192.168.1.111:41
zorglu_this is mine11:41
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zorglu_maybe11:41
pauloafter the install i rebooted to change driver to vesa so that should have done it11:41
zorglu_Jucato: maybe11:41
davidejende sorry can i ask u a thing?11:41
JucatoI use openDNS, btw...11:41
zorglu_ok have to debug my pile of crap11:41
zorglu_paulo: i no more have time to help11:41
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Jucatopaulo: have you tried rebooting?11:42
zorglu_tips: the key is the empty resolv.conf11:42
davidehow i can copy a file into the folder /usr/share/sane/gt68xx  ?11:42
pauloi will reboot now11:42
zorglu_it may be setup by the dhcp or directly setup11:42
zorglu_ok off11:42
Jucatooh there he rebooted :)11:42
davidebecause when i try to copy (manually)it doesn't permit me to copy11:42
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jendehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27652/ <- magicmike11:43
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jendedavide: ow do you copy?11:43
jendedavide: how do you copy?11:43
janhelp me! my kicker is hidden, how can i show it again?11:43
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davidewith "cut and paste"11:44
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davidejende: with the simple way to copy11:44
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jendedavide: wont work as you have to be sudo to write in these directories11:44
Jucatojan: Alt+F2, type in "systemsettings" (no quotes, no space), then look under the Panel options to see if it's hidden or not11:44
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janor how can i access the kicker configuration without RMB on it11:45
davidejende:  so?what i have to type in these situations?11:45
paulohey back11:45
janJucato, thank you11:45
Jucatopaulo: how did it go?11:45
jendedavide: man cp11:45
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jendedavide: man=manualpages11:45
pauloJucato: there is now 3 entries in resolv.conf11:45
Jucatopaulo: good11:45
Jucatohave you tried browsing?11:46
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paulobut in konqueror i get "save as" "open with firefox" "cancel"11:46
Jucatopaulo: this is when you type in a URL?11:46
paulowhen searching in google11:46
Jucatobut you can go to other web pages?11:47
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jendepaulo: so, you could get to google?try another site/URL11:47
huhmzHi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think?11:48
pauloJucato: jende same problem with other sites11:48
Jucatopaulo: ugh... I'm not really good with this...11:48
Jucatocan anyone help paulo here?11:48
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pauloits a konqueror config problem11:49
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Jucatohuhmz: do you have binary ATI or NVIDIA drivers installed?11:49
jendepaulo: patebin the resolv.conf and don't parse it in here11:49
paulojende: whats pastebin11:49
huhmzjucato: no11:49
jende!passte11:49
jende!paste11:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about passte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:49
Linux_Galore_#kbuntu-offtopic11:50
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jendepaulo: and don't forget to give us the URL, though11:50
paulook i did that11:50
JucatoLinux_Galore_: huh?11:50
klerfaytif I disable plugins globally in konqueror settings and then allow them for "www.youtube.com" konqueror won't show flash videos; why?11:50
paulobut i do not have a url11:50
paulohow on earth can i pastebin when i cannot use the browser??11:51
Jucatojende: err...11:51
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jendepaulo: errr...true11:51
Jucato@_@11:51
paulothis is annoying me... deeply11:51
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Jucatopaulo: but you are able to use the internet for anything else, I presume? (since you're chatting)11:52
pauloi feel like i am going mad11:52
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pauloyes11:52
Jucatohm.. seems like a DNS problem then...11:52
paulolike i said it must be a konqueror config problem11:52
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JucatoI have had that issue with my ISP11:52
Jucatopaulo: can you "ing www.google.com"?11:52
Jucatopaulo: can you "ping www.google.com"?11:52
pauloJucato: yes i can11:52
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Jucatook, it might be a Konqueror issue... hehe...11:53
jendepaulo: have you got the same probs with firefox?11:53
pauloJucato: no i cannot ping now :P11:53
JucatoI thought you said you could :P11:53
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paulojende: i cannot install firefox11:53
pauloit is not in my sources.list11:53
jendepaulo: why's that?11:53
jende!firefox11:54
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:54
Jucatoerr.. that is old...11:54
jendepaulo: it is in your sources11:54
jendepaulo: do that "sudo apt-get install firefox"11:54
Jucatopaulo: all you need is to enable the the "main" repositories (if they're not enabled yet)11:55
jendeJucato: shouldn't they be enabled by default?11:55
pauloReading package lists... Done11:55
pauloBuilding dependency tree... Done11:55
pauloPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:55
pauloThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:55
paulois only available from another source11:55
pauloE: Package firefox has no installation candidate11:55
Jucatojende: if you installed without an active/enabled internet connection, no11:55
Jucatobesides, if he's having DNS problems, I don't think he'll be able to install anything at all11:56
jendeJucato: true...never installed without an active connection, though11:56
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Jucatojende: I only installed with an internet connection once11:56
Jucato:)11:56
Jucatopaulo: don't lose hope yet11:56
jendepaulo: type less /etc/resolv.conf11:56
paulonameserver 83.147.161.14611:57
paulonameserver 83.147.160.311:57
paulonameserver 83.147.160.211:57
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Jucatoif it helps, I once had this problem as well. All other internet services (IRC, IM, and Torrent) work well, except for HTTP (which includes installing through apt)11:57
JucatoI solved it by using the DNS from www.opendns.com11:57
jendepaulo: your nameservers don't respond at all11:57
Jucatotry to use this from openDNS: nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.22011:58
Jucatobye11:58
jendepaulo: so your prob is a nameserver one11:58
jendepaulo: do you know how to edit such files?11:59
paulono11:59
magicmikejende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27653/11:59
paulolook guys every time i click on of those likes it saves it in /var12:00
pauloi cannot use http12:00
jendepaulo: press ALT+F2 and type in there kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf then delte the nameservers in there and replace the deleted ones with ones given by Jucato12:00
paulojende: but are they not from jucato's isp?12:00
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jendepaulo: no12:01
jendemagicmike: you have a broadband connection, right?12:01
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paulook that is now done12:02
jendemagicmike: if so, can you ping your router? in a console type ping <ipofyourrouter>12:02
jendepaulo: saved it?12:02
pauloyes12:02
jendepaulo: close kate then12:03
paulodone12:03
jendepaulo: do a sudo route on the console12:03
paulojende: eh?12:03
pauloDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface12:04
paulo83.147.165.0    *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth012:04
paulodefault         83.147.165.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth012:04
pauloi'm going to do a fresh install again12:04
jendepaulo: that looks alright; as long as the Ip for Dest/GW are correct12:04
jendepaulo: don't give up12:05
magicmikeNetwork is unreachable.12:05
paulook i have a major headache over this12:05
jendepaulo: reboot the machine and after you rebooted do again a less /etc/resolv.conf12:05
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jendemagicmike: so, your internal net doesn't work either12:05
jendemagicmike: I just read on a german site, that one had to rebuilt his acx almost every day and he did get unfortunately the same errors as you get12:07
jendemagicmike: that acx thingy seems to be damn buggy12:07
magicmikeWell, I can screw this wireless setup because I have a wired ethernet also but that doesn't show up either.12:08
magicmikeShould I shutdown, pop the card out and see what gives?12:08
jendemagicmike: yes, please12:08
magicmikeStay tuned. LOL12:09
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jendemagicmike: surrrrre12:09
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birgehi all12:12
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jendebirge: howdy12:14
birgetry to learn about linux12:15
birgei never used it before12:15
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jendebirge: good, keep learning12:16
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birgei will12:19
huhmzneither gdm nor kdm nor startx can start my xserver, i don't know what to do12:19
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jendehuhmz: reconfiguer your X12:20
magicmikejende: Okay. I'm using a wired network card. NE2000 Compatible ISAPNP Ethernet Adapter How to we configure this?12:20
jendemagicmike: sudo modprobe ne200012:20
huhmzjende: doesn't work12:20
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huhmzit is some bug with the upgrade to edgy12:21
jendehuhmz: there is no bug known re X12:21
jendehuhmz: unless you have installed beryl12:21
magicmikeNot found. LOL12:22
huhmzi have not12:22
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magicmikeII figured as much.12:22
jendehuhmz: basically, I have 3 boxes here running od edgy and no probs at all. How did you upgrade?using apt? any errors;like unmet dependencies?12:23
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huhmzbug 59242 seems to be related12:23
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huhmzi did apt-get dist-upgrade12:24
jendehuhmz: and apt-get update before?12:24
huhmzyes12:24
jendehuhmz: and no apt-get update before?12:24
huhmzapt-get update before always12:24
jendehuhmz: pastebin your sources12:24
huhmzcant get to pastebin atm, im in console12:24
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jendemagicmike: sudo find /etc/ -name ne200012:25
huhmzcan i query you?12:25
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jendehuhmz: have to change therefor quickly the ID ;)12:25
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huhmzcrap, something didnt work12:26
jende_huhmz: now you can12:26
magicmikeJende: returned to prompt12:26
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jende_magicmike: just the prompt?12:27
magicmikeYup12:27
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magicmikeIs there a place that tells you what hardware actually is recognized/works with Linux?12:31
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jende_magicmike: yes there is12:31
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magicmikeIt just seems like you spend so much time trying to get this stuff to work, you can't enjoy your computer.12:32
flaccidthats linux for ya12:32
huhmzjende_: i think there might be a problem that i didn't have the ubuntu-base package installed when i upgraded, did you see that bug i posted?12:34
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Danhulhi there12:35
jende_magicmike: modprobe ne12:35
jende_huhmz: nope, havent sees your posting as yet12:35
Danhulsince I updated edgy yesterday sudo doesn't work anymore - the /etc/sudoers is empty. What can I do?12:35
jende_flaccid: howdy12:35
huhmzjende_bug 5924212:35
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pauloback12:36
pauloafter fresh install and am installing firefix12:36
paulo*firefox12:36
jende_paulo: so your prob seems to be soolved, though12:37
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paulothrough a fresh install, for a second time!12:38
paulojende_: thanks you for your help anyway!12:38
jende_huhmz: would you mind posting me quickly the whole URL to your Bug still can't find iit12:38
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jende_magicmike: what tells you a modprobe ne ?12:39
magicmikeError inserting 8390 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/839 0.ko): Operation not permitted Fatal:Error inserting NE (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ne.ko}: Operation not permitted12:39
huhmzjende_: launchpad.net/bugs/5924212:40
jende_magicmike: what tells you asudo modprobe ne ?12:40
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magicmikeasudo says command not found. Sudo reurns me to the prompt.12:41
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lipe_peI got an error, that says "Su returned an error" when I am going to access as root... What should I do, please ?!?!12:43
jende_magicmike: what tells you a 'sudo modprobe ne' ?12:44
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Jucatojende_: ping?12:44
jende_huhmz: have you made since your postings any updates/upgrades, maybe yesterday to rc1?12:45
jende_Jucato: pong!12:45
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Jucatojende_: sorry for running off so suddenly...12:45
lipe_peI got an error, that says "Su returned an error" when I am going to access as root... What should I do, please ?!?!12:45
Jucatoeveryone was calling me for dinner... :(12:45
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jende_Jucato: fair enough12:45
huhmzjende_: i made the upgrade last night, didnt boot until this morning, i have done more dist-upgrade since12:45
Jucatowas paulo's problem solved?12:46
jende_lipe_pe: su is not the appropriate cmd to become root12:46
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jende_huhmz: hmmm...???12:46
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jende_Jucato: he gave up and reinstalled12:47
Jucatooh... did he try the DNS I gave?12:47
jende_Jucato: nope12:47
Jucatooh... that's not good...12:47
lipe_pejende_: ok, but when i click to became administrator in somewhere, or when i'm opening adept, for example, it apears it, and do not load the application ...12:47
Jucatocoz I almost had the same problem as his. and opendns solved it for me. it's an ISP issue I think...12:47
jende_Jucato: it would have helped as all his NS werde dead anyway, so....12:48
JucatoI'd say that it's his ISP then. specially if it behaves the same way in XP12:49
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jende_lipe_pe: if you open adept, which I hate personally hate to use, you'll be asked to enter the password12:49
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jende_lipe_pe: right? what message do you get once you entered your password12:49
Jucatolol12:49
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Jucatolove that side comment :)12:50
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jende_Jucato: i hate adept it's in my opinion as useless as yast and all that crap.12:50
Jucatowell, it's not 100% useless... :P12:51
Jucatoit works sometimes hehehe12:51
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lipe_pejende_: i can't enter my pass... i just apears it ...12:51
jende_Jucato: but apt and aptitude and dpkg works always12:51
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jende_lipe_pe: whats your native language?12:51
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jende_magicmike: ???12:52
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Jucatojende_: yes. but some people would prefer to use a GUI app if possible. (There's also a "GUI" alternative to dpkg, btw)12:52
lipe_pejende_: portuguese12:53
jende_!po12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
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Jucato!pt12:53
jende_!portuguese12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about portuguese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:53
Jucato:P12:53
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jende_Jucato: *ggg*12:53
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lipe_pejende_: if i delete the root user, how can i add it again ... ?!12:54
Jucatolipe_pe: there shouldn't be a root user by default12:54
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jende_magicmike: where are you?12:56
lipe_peJucato: i just deluser root ... and now i cant use "sudo" ... :p12:56
micraHi, I have been messing around with my root-user, and i think that i have changed the password. Somehow i cannot enter Adept, and i get the following message when I enter my password: "Conversation with su failed", how do i fix this?12:56
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magicmikeYea, I'm here. I'm going to go try another Linux version and see how I make out. Maybe Mandriva or Suse.12:57
Jucatooh here we go again...12:57
arejayteegoogle should buy ubuntu!12:57
magicmikeJust research them now.12:58
jende_magicmike: neither mandriva nor SuSE I would recommend12:58
magicmikeresearching I mean.12:58
JucatoI find it *amusing* that 2 people having the same problems because of the same reason :P12:58
arejayteethey didnt have the computer turned on?12:58
Jucatoarejaytee: hehe funny :P12:58
jende_magicmike: what gave you a sudo modprobe ne, though12:59
magicmikeWell, this seems to work fine until you update. Then crash.....12:59
magicmikeBack to the prompt12:59
pauloanyone here have ssh running on port 443?12:59
arejayteegubuntu!!!!12:59
arejayteerofl12:59
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bmo_why have ssh running on 443?01:00
jende_magicmike: then look up if the module got loaded using lsmod01:00
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martin__ssh is 2201:00
pauloto access from work as 22 is blocked01:00
Jucatoarejaytee: correctionl. Goobuntu :)01:00
arejayteehaha nice01:00
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bmo_to keep it out of the bots01:00
Jucatoarejaytee: actually they are using customized versions of Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) in house. afaik01:01
jende_bmo_: hehehe01:01
arejayteeive heard the before too somewhere01:01
paulobmo_: but do you need to change iptables?01:01
arejayteethe=that01:01
bmo_no01:01
magicmikeI see an ne  7620 used by 0 listing01:01
bmo_you edit the config file01:01
pauloyeah sshd_config01:01
Jucatojende_: I have to go again01:01
magicmike7620 being the size01:01
Jucatoso suddenly...01:01
jende_Jucato: see ya later and take care01:02
bmo_edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config01:02
klerfaythow to create symlink of folder /x in /y ?01:02
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bmo_change the line "Port 22" to whatever number strikes your fancy01:02
jende_magicmike: what gives you a ifconfig?is there a device eth0?01:02
pauloover 102401:03
intelikey47901:03
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intelikey:)01:03
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intelikey6667   lol01:03
jende_intelikey: howdy01:03
intelikeyjende_ :)01:03
intelikeyhey who knows something about dosemu ?01:04
jende_nnot me01:04
sacha_ln -s /y /x  klerfayt01:04
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bmo_what's to know?  you type it and you use emulated dos01:04
B-Minushello all01:04
intelikeySorry, there is no operating system.01:04
intelikeyPlease try to install FreeDOS from dosemu-freedos.01:04
bmo_oh01:05
bmo_well01:05
B-Minuswhat repositeries shall i add to my sources.list for getting kde 3.5.5 ?01:05
flaccidinstall the package dosemu-freedos01:05
flaccidi found dosbox better :)01:05
intelikeybmo_ where is it looking for the os01:05
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intelikeyflaccid i don't want freedos  i have dos.01:05
flaccidoh sorry01:06
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flaccidi think you change it in the .conf then01:06
magicmikeIt gives me my inet address and same info as when working on the wireless. I pinged the inet address and it is continually pinging.How do I stop the pinging?01:06
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intelikeyi failed to find it.    i thought it just had a symlink in ~/.dosemu/   but i don't see one.01:07
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flaccidmagicmike: ctrl+c01:07
intelikeyflaccid you have a working dosemu ?01:07
magicmikeOkay.01:07
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flaccidintelikey: yeah with freedos but01:07
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bmo_http://www.drdos.net/download.htm01:07
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intelikeywould you check ~/.dosemu/ for a symlink please ?01:07
flaccidthere is no symlink01:08
jende_magicmike: did it look like this 64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.51 ms ?01:08
intelikeynot in run/ or anywhere ?????01:08
flaccidnope01:08
magicmikeNo the inet address was 127.0.0.101:08
intelikeywell they've totally messed it up i guess..01:08
jende_magicmike: so, you said ping without a destination, I guess01:09
intelikeyused to be one.     hehhe it used to run a config script the first run also, which let you specify path to dos01:09
jende_magicmike: however, lets see if we can configure eth001:09
magicmike127.0.0.1 ping statistics 183 packets transmitted, 183 received , 0% loss, time182018ms01:10
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jende_magicmike: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.10101:10
jende_magicmike: whats the result?01:10
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Ayabarahi guys. I'm installing kubuntu in a dual boot system today. I have 16GB free. How should I split it between swap, root and home? I have 1GB ram, and I will not be storing any big files (music,video) in my home directory.01:11
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magicmikeWell, the net address that shows as my domain name servers returns no Reuslt is ping 192.168.2.101 (192.168.2.101) 56(84) bytes of data.01:13
intelikeybmo_ ?01:13
jende_magicmike: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.10101:13
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magicmikeSorry my domain name server continually pings the one you gave me gives those results.01:14
bmo_intelikey, I looked to install dosemu and it's not there01:14
bmo_only dosbox01:14
jende_magicmike: or sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.901:14
deadsoul_How to set double click to select open a file intead of one click?01:14
jende_magicmike: stop the ping01:14
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deadsoul_How to set double click to open a file intead of one click?*01:14
intelikeybmo_ eft ?01:14
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bmo_no, dapper01:14
intelikeyyeah it's there.  i installed it.01:14
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intelikey!info dosemu01:15
ubotudosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB01:15
magicmikeReturns to prompt01:15
jende_magicmike: good01:15
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magicmikeIf you say so.01:15
bmo_Package dosemu is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:16
intelikeybmo_ see ubotu ^01:16
jende_magicmike: now, we've got to tell your ne200 where the router is. sudo route add default gw <ipofyourrouter>01:16
deadsoul_How to set double click to open a file intead of one click?01:17
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intelikeydeadsoul_ kcontrol01:17
bmo_deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse01:17
bmo_I _have_ multiverse01:17
jende_!paste01:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:17
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deadsoul_Thanks a lot intelikey01:18
intelikeybmo_ me and flaccid had no trubble apt getting it....01:18
intelikeydeadsoul_ it's in there.  i don't recall where in there but i know it's in there.01:19
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magicmikeI get network is unreachable.01:19
prophitgm world01:19
jende_magicmike: doing what? gave you network is unreachable?01:19
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deadsoul_Yeah intelikey its in mouse section. I did it. Thanks a lot01:19
bmo_I have dapper-updates multiverse, dapper-backports multiverse, dapper multiverse, and the source repositories and the dapper-security multiverse.  if I don't have a multiverse, it doesn't exist. :-P01:19
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arejayteeshould i upgrade to edgy through dist-upgrade?01:20
magicmikesudo route add default gw 192.168.0.101:20
intelikeybmo_ :)01:20
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intelikeyapt-cache search dosemu01:21
intelikeydosemu - The Linux DOS Emulator01:21
intelikeydosemu-freedos - FreeDOS package for DOSEMU01:21
intelikeyxfonts-dosemu - VGA font for the DOS Emulator01:21
bmo_apt-cache search dosemu01:22
bmo_console-cyrillic - Better Cyrillic support for Linux console01:22
bmo_xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings01:22
bmo_xfonts-dosemu - VGA font for the DOS Emulator01:22
jende_magicmike: I just had a call from a client, will you be here in an hour?01:23
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magicmikeI don't know. Maybe. This Linux stuff is giving me a headache.01:23
intelikeymagicmike you can always ask in #ubuntu   if no one in here can help you.01:24
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bmo_it is giving me a headache right about now, but dosbox works flawlessly, more or less. hahahahahaha01:24
jende_magicmike: when I'm back I'll be fixing your ne200001:24
magicmikeI'm going to install another version of Linux and see what results I get. MAybe it'll like my hardware better.01:24
intelikeybmo_ not from a console it don't   dosbox01:24
intelikeyExit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device01:24
magicmikeThanks, jende.01:24
intelikeybmo_ dosbox depends on X01:24
lunitikmagicmike: if Ubuntu doesn't like your hardware... no other distro will01:24
magicmikeWell, sounds like I'm stuff with Billionaire Bill then.01:25
lunitikmagicmike: what hardware issues are you having? I just got here... sorry01:25
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bmo_intelikey, what dapper mirror do you use?01:26
intelikeyvenella01:26
magicmikeWell, things work fine until I do the damn updates. Then both my networking options are knocked out.01:26
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magicmikeI removed my wireless and went to a wired card and still the devices can't be found.01:26
magicmikeThat's it in a nutshell.01:27
klerfaythow to associate "rtsp" protocol in firefox with vlc? I got w32codecs and firefox-vlc-plugin installed allready01:27
bmo_intelikey: venella.ubuntu.com?01:27
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bmo_oh, wait01:27
intelikeybmo_ i'll post my sources.list for you.01:27
bmo_I think I know why01:27
lunitikmagicmike: so you updated kernel, without updating ndiswrapper and expected things to still work?01:27
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse01:27
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse01:27
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse01:27
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bmo_intelekey: 32 or 64 bit?01:27
intelikeythat's the whole file.01:27
magicmikeI'm using I did as instructed.01:27
lunitikmagicmike: what wired NIC are you using?01:27
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intelikey32     yeah you have 64   hah01:28
magicmikeSorry I did as instructed.01:28
bmo_that's why01:28
bmo_no dosemu for me01:28
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magicmikeI'm now using NE2000 compat card.01:28
intelikeybmo_ heh according to the manpage on it dosemu doesn't fully support 32 bit yet   lol01:29
jende_lunitik: a ne2000 isapnp01:29
magicmikeYup01:29
jende_see ya all01:29
magicmikeTake it easy.01:29
intelikeyc ya01:29
jende_have to run01:29
micraHi, i know my root password, but when i try to get root-access it doesnt work.01:29
intelikeyc++ ya01:29
bmo_most cards are ne2000 compat.  I have set up many windows machines by just telling them that the driver is ne1000/ne2000.  not surprised that the trick works in linux01:29
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insparedes!es01:30
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:30
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intelikeymicra when did you set a "root" password ?01:30
intelikey!root01:30
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:30
lunitikmagicmike: sorry for the delay... 'lspci | grep Ethernet' ... what does this return?01:31
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bmo_oh, I've had the same problem that Micra has, and it was a weird fix01:31
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intelikeybmo_ root password   or borked sudo  ?01:32
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bmo_suddenly sudo quit working01:32
lunitikmagicmike: should return two values... your wireless and wired NIC (unless you removed one card)01:32
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intelikeyyeah sudo != root password01:32
bmo_baking /etc/hosts bakes PAM01:32
lunitikmagicmike: ISA is a pita, its old technology, so no one really pays attention to it anymore01:33
intelikeyno only sudo01:33
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magicmikeI removed the wireless.01:33
micraintelikey: i was messing around with the root user and i think i changed the password. It shows the message "converstion with su failed", when i try to enter adept or administrator mode01:33
lunitikmagicmike: ok... what does the command return?01:33
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intelikeymicra do this in a konsole      sudo echo working!01:34
magicmikeI can shut down and put it back in.  I'm getting command not found so let me double check my typing.01:34
lunitikmagicmike: copy and paste from konsole is fine... just show me the result of the command01:34
bmo_sudo passwd01:34
bmo_set new password01:34
lunitikmagicmike: you have a typo... lspci is definitely a command  :)01:35
paul__when i select to share a folder the options are grayed out? how do I edit them?01:35
lunitikas is grep01:35
intelikeybmo_ lets see if sudo is working first shall we01:35
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micraNothing happens when i try to write sudo, it seems like it is "locked"?01:35
intelikeymicra ok.   do this     groups | grep admin01:36
magicmikecommand not found.01:36
micraIt locks whenever i write my root-password (or what i think it is), and i have to restart the computer before it gets unlocked01:36
magicmikewith the ' included?01:37
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intelikeymicra do you know the differance in a root password and using sudo ?01:37
micraintelikey: in console or?01:37
micraintelikey: no? im newb :-)01:37
insparedescomo instalar wine en kubuntu?01:37
intelikeythat's what i thought.01:37
intelikeynow micra yes in konsole01:38
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paul__is samba installed by default?01:38
intelikeysee if you are in the admin group01:38
intelikeypaul__ no01:38
intelikey!samba01:38
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:38
paul__oh no wonder :/01:38
lunitikmagicmike: no... just lspci | grep Ethernet ... copy and paste01:38
magicmikeIT returns to the prompt. IT only works without the ' symbols removed. Being a newb some commands use that symbol.01:38
micraintelikey it shows this: micra adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scann01:39
intelikeyhmmm ok01:39
magicmikeI can't copy and paste. I have no internet access on that computer and I'm going from another machine to the one that has the linux on it.01:39
intelikeymicra do this in the konsole     cat /etc/sudoers01:39
intelikeyand see if it has a line starting with adm01:40
micraintelikey: cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied01:40
intelikeyok01:40
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flaccidanyone know of a list of packages to remove/things to do to cut down a kubuntu desktop install to a server install01:41
intelikeymicra i'm thinking you will have to add your self to  the  "admin"   group.        someone that uses sudo can confirm or refute that.01:41
ironcladlouMy Belkin Wireless G PCMCIA card appears in lspci and during Kubuntu 6.11rc install, but is not visible to ifconfig, iwconfig, the network control panel, or KNetworkManager. It worked fine in 6.06. Any ideas?01:41
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intelikeyflaccid cat sudoers for me and see if they still use group "admin"  ?01:42
ironcladlou6.10rc, rather01:42
magicmikelunatik: You still with me?01:42
ElectrolyteHmmmm, Iceweasel isn't bad.01:42
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flaccidintelikey: aint finished install yet01:42
bmo_they do, intelikey %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL01:43
flaccidhuh01:43
flaccidthis is not for me01:43
intelikey!wifi > ironcladlou01:43
flaccidoh01:43
intelikeybmo_ ty01:43
magicmikeironcladlou: I've been having the same prob.01:43
intelikeyflaccid ty anyway.01:43
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magicmike!wifi01:43
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:43
bmo_but, intelikey, if he set a root password, even if he types sudo, his own password is no good, he has to type the (now unknown) root password01:43
ironcladloumagicmike: with the same card?01:44
bmo_even if he is in the admin group01:44
intelikeyok micra  you need to boot to recovery mode and   or use a live cd   to fix your problem.      you have to be in the admin group.01:44
ironcladlouintelikey: I know where the wifi docs are. This seems like some sort of bug.01:44
paul__hmm I installed Samba and still the share options are grayed out01:44
magicmikeMine is a US Robotics or Tex Inst acx 100 chipset.01:44
intelikeyironcladlou ok.01:44
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micraintelikey: how do I add myself to the admin group from the recovery console?01:45
intelikeymicra you can edit /etc/group  and  add your user name to the "admin"   line.01:45
ironcladloumagicmike: i have a forum topic going with no resolution yet at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=164379301:45
magicmikeI did all that stuff that is on the wifidocs site. It's about rebuilding your drivers. I was halfway through when it wouldn't complete because I needed internet access to download the make package.01:45
bmo_http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F01:46
intelikeymicra  nano is a command line text editor that is installed by default.01:46
ironcladloumagicmike: and yours worked fine in 6.06 also?01:46
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intelikeybmo_ does that doc detail fixing sudo ?01:46
ironcladloumagicmike: one thing i haven't tried is installing without the card inserted01:47
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magicmikeit worked without a problem in 6.06. When I shut down after the updates, it wouldn't show any internet connection devices.01:47
magicmikeIf the cards not inserted how are you going to access the net?01:47
micraintelikey: i know what nano is, but what file schould i open whith it?01:47
intelikeymicra nano /etc/group        will be the command.01:48
magicmikeI unplugged, booted and shutdown. Replugged, booted and same result. Does not show.01:48
ironcladloumagicmike: ot01:48
ironcladlouoops01:48
micraintelikey: okay, what schould i do after that? Remember im newbie :-)01:48
ironcladloumagicmike: its a laptop. it has internal LAN and WLAN (WEP only though). i need the pcmcia card for WPA. i have it conected to the wired network at the moment01:49
intelikeylook for admin:x:33:some,names,here        and add your name.01:49
intelikeythe 33 is a guess could be any number.01:49
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intelikeynote the comma seperated list of names01:50
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intelikeycould be blank.  but you need in it.01:50
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micraintelikey: it has to be through recovery konsole?01:51
intelikeymicro you have to have write permission01:51
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intelikeyhow are you going to get it ?01:51
bmo_!paste01:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:51
magicmikeGot disconnected.01:51
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bmo_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/01:52
micraintelikey: i don't know? :) Through recovery konsole? :-)01:52
bubu1uki have problem with ssh on kubuntu. when i use midnight commander it doesnt show properly. any1 knows how to solve this problem?01:52
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bmo_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/ (for micra and intelikey)01:53
magicmikeIroncladlou: Only thing I can suggest is don't update after 6.06. Let me know if you get your problem resolved.01:53
intelikeymicro i know of three ways without really working over a hack  to secure root access to a box that you don't have a root password nor root jr. privilages.   1. a recovery console   2. a live cd    3. using init=/bin/sh  at the boot prompt.     notice #3 is not for the newbee.01:53
ironcladloumagicmike: not exactly the preferable answer :D01:53
ironcladloumagicmike: i am downloading ubuntu6.10rc right now to make sure it's something in the base distro and not kubuntu specific01:54
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magicmikeYea, I know but I've gone through this about 3 times.01:54
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ironcladloumagicmike: you tried ubuntu?01:54
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micraintelikey: okay, ill use recovery console01:55
magicmikeSame problem in both. I was using Ubuntu until yesterday when I installed Kubuntu.01:55
intelikeybmo_ nano and the sudoers file......  ;S01:55
ironcladloucrap01:56
magicmikeJust gotta get lucky and find someone who knows how to resolve this problem.01:56
magicmikeso far no luck.01:56
intelikeybmo_ i hope no one in here is giving that advice.    visudo   is the prefered way.01:56
ironcladlouwhat other channels have you asked in?01:56
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magicmikeUbunt also.01:57
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magicmike#ubuntu I meant.01:57
simsehey intelikey. this is micra from another com01:57
intelikeybmo_ visudo checks the syntax on exit.   nano wont.01:57
simseIm going into recovery console now01:58
ironcladloumagicmike:  have you asked this morning in there?01:58
intelikeysimse yeah.01:58
intelikeyk01:58
bmo_ah01:58
bmo_ok01:58
ironcladloui'll go try anyway, just in case01:58
intelikeybmo_ also the sudoers file is not what is broke.  you just need in the group.01:58
magicmikeI'm there now. Good luck.01:58
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bmo_is it really 8am?01:59
ulinskiehow can I get build essentials in kubuntu?01:59
intelikeynew england time01:59
klerfaytwhat is the difference between "kvlc" and "qvlc" package?01:59
ironcladloumagicmike: i am referencing you as a "friend" in my plea for help :)02:00
intelikeyread the info on them klerfayt02:00
simseIm in the etc/group now02:00
simseHow do I add my self?02:00
klerfaytintelikey: oops - "The kvlc package has been discontinued"02:00
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intelikeyklerfayt in adept   or cli   apt-cache show <package-name>       for more info.02:00
intelikeyklerfayt xvlc  ?02:01
klerfaytintelikey: that's why I didn't see difference (they are discontinued) I fought I will get nice interface with kvlc02:01
bmo_adm:x:4:bmo  <---my adm group.  I assume that micra put his username in the obvious place02:01
ulinskiehow can I get build essentials in kubuntu?02:01
simseintelikey Im in the etc/group now02:01
intelikeyoooops  i mean  wxvlc02:02
bmo_admin:x:111:bmo02:02
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intelikeyyep.   if bmo    is the user name that you want to be root jr.02:02
simseintelikey it says "root:x:0:" and further down "adm:x:4:micra"02:02
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intelikeysimse "admin"02:03
simseintelikey there is now admin, only adm ???02:03
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binksfdoving thanks i got the access point working :)02:03
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bmo_my username is in adm, dialout (haha) cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, myself, and admin02:04
intelikeywell add it.     admin:x:111:micra02:04
simseallr right then02:04
zarrellihi02:04
bmo_alo02:04
simseIt is done02:05
intelikeybmo_ i did a box that way one time.    put me in all groups... :)02:05
simseand saved!02:05
epalissadI can't open folders or trash-bin it says: KDEInit could not launch '/home/myuser. can someone help me, I haven't found anything on google.02:05
simseshould it work now?02:05
bmo_try it, simse02:05
intelikeyshould work now.02:05
intelikeysimse you can issue a command to test it.02:05
simsebmo_ ok Im rebooting now02:05
bmo_wait02:05
intelikeysimse you can issue a command to test it.02:05
bmo_don't reboot, just do it02:06
simseit is allready rebooting02:06
intelikeysimse you can issue a command to test it.02:06
intelikey:)02:06
simseI heard you :-)02:06
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intelikeybut rebooting don't hurt, i guess....02:06
simsegreat02:06
bmo_sudo echo IT LIVES!! IT LIVES!!02:06
intelikey*NOTICE* this is not tht M$ reboot opperating system.02:07
simsewhat?02:07
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intelikeywe just change runlevels,  we don't reboot.02:08
bmo_simse: unlike windows, you dont' have to reboot linux every time you make a change02:08
bmo_really, the only time to reboot is power failure or a new kernel. heh.02:08
simsebmo_ intelikey IT MOTCHERFUCKINGWORK!02:08
JosefKalthough, interestingly, reboot _is_ a runlevel02:08
simseWORKS!02:08
bmo_MOTCHER?02:09
simseTHANKS GUYS!02:09
klerfaytbmo_: I think you don't have to reboot windows either02:09
simseTHANKS GUYS!02:09
bmo_what'ss a motcher?02:09
bmo_heh02:09
intelikey!language02:09
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:09
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simsethank you02:09
intelikeyyou welcome02:09
simseI love u02:09
intelikeyyou'll get over it.02:09
bmo_haha02:09
klerfayt!stereotype02:10
simsehaha02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stereotype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
VincentMXdoes kubuntu take use of my new 5.1 Dolby Surround set?02:10
bmo_!how to win the war on drugs, terrorism, and democrats02:10
intelikey!spelling02:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about how to win the war on drugs, terrorism, and democrats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spelling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
intelikeyklerfayt that ^ is the problem02:10
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intelikeyveni vidi clicky02:12
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ironcladloumagicmike: did you see? it solved the problem02:13
Puterohi, somebody know a similar program to SurMix2 for my soundblaster sound card? because i have a Audigy2 with proffesional sound for work, and under linux this card sound like a simple card integrated on mother board02:15
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JohnFlux!nvidia02:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:33
JohnFlux! nvidia02:33
JohnFlux% nvidia02:33
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zorglu_q. i got a dapper on 2.6.15-26-386, and it just trashed (aka disk active all the time and no more answering ping), i rebooted and /var/log/message is full of oom-killer, is there a way to determine the source of this ?02:33
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JohnFluxErrhttp://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages02:35
JohnFlux  Bad header line [IP: 195.248.90.54 80] 02:35
JohnFluxi keep getting this sort of error message02:35
JohnFluxwhen I do apt-get update02:35
JohnFluxanyone know why?02:35
zorglu_seems like a issue with the server02:36
JohnFluxanyone know  a good mirror I can use from the uk?02:36
fdovingJohnFlux: try se. it is usally fast from everywhere.02:37
zorglu_fr.archive.ubuntu.com seems to works02:37
zorglu_uk.archive.ubuntu.com is the same as archive.ubuntu.com02:38
fdovinguk is archive02:38
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onkeltucahi folks!02:39
onkeltucai am tryinng to install acpi drivers for my notebook (acer aspire 5020)02:40
onkeltucai installed all the linux headers etc...02:40
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onkeltucabut the "make" doesnt work02:40
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onkeltucahi ho....does any body read?02:44
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onkeltucaanybody there?02:45
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Tm_Tonkeltuca: No we don't read. ;)02:45
onkeltucahehe02:45
onkeltucahave some trouble with my laptop...02:45
onkeltuca:)02:46
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onkeltucadoes anybody now hoe to install acpi drvier correctly02:46
flaccidhow can i do an apt-get remove and ignore packages that are not installed02:47
onkeltucainstall them before removal02:47
flaccideg sudo apt-get remove telnet ivman <--- ivman not installed, so ignore02:47
flaccidonkeltuca: i'm looking for an ignore switch02:48
onkeltucakk02:48
abattoironkeltuca:02:48
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zorglu_flaccid: naively why do you add it if you want to ignore it ?02:48
abattoironkeltuca: what doesn't work?02:48
abattoironkeltuca: i have a similar laptop, acpi works fine here02:48
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flaccidbecause i am removing kubuntu-desktop packages02:49
JohnFluxflaccid: for f in telnet ivman; do sudo apt-get remove $f; done02:50
JohnFlux;-)02:50
onkeltucai downloaded some acer02:50
onkeltucaacpi driver...02:50
zorglu_JohnFlux put a smiley but i would do the same as i suggest02:50
onkeltuca#read the f m02:50
onkeltucainstalled sources copmilers etc..02:50
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onkeltucabut the makefile doesnt work02:51
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cyberquietI got a couple of problems upgrading to kde 3.5.5...02:51
abattoironkeltuca: mmm, you still haven't answered my question... why do you need to compile one when there is a binary? do you need to get something working? if so what?02:51
onkeltucawhere do i get the binary02:52
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alaincan anyone explain me why Bug #30207 is so difficult to fix   - for me it seems to be an (auto) configuration problem02:53
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zorglu_alain: url ?02:55
onkeltucaabattoir: where do i get the binary02:55
abattoironkeltuca: it should already be installed... for the last time, why are you looking for it?02:55
magicmikeIs there a way to extract the linux-restricted-modules or linux-generic from the cd and place it somewhere that the install program can find it? I'm trying to get the system to recognize and install my  networking.02:55
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alainhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3020702:56
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abattoirmagicmike: yup, look under the pool dir.(iirc) in the cd02:56
abattoirmagicmike: you have the dapper live cd?02:56
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magicmikeKubuntu Version 6.06 LTS02:57
onkeltucaabattoir: well. actually i cant get my wireless card get working and i have no opengl02:57
abattoironkeltuca: which card?02:57
abattoironkeltuca: broadcom?02:57
onkeltucaabattoir: yes02:57
abattoir!wireless02:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:58
onkeltucaabttoir: i tried ndiswrapper02:58
abattoironkeltuca: and...?02:58
onkeltucabut the problem is that the card is deactivated02:58
magicmikeWhat's the command for ndiswrapper?02:58
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onkeltucait has no power02:58
onkeltucanew acpidriver should fix this02:58
cyberquietwhat is the most appropriate way to report a problem to the packager(s) of kde for kubuntu? launchpad?03:00
onkeltucaabattoir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Acer5021WLMi_Amd6403:00
klerfaytis it possible that somewhere is repo with latest&greatest nvidia-glx package?03:00
abattoircyberquiet: a bug?03:00
abattoir!bug03:00
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:00
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zorglu_alain: well it is at least 6month old and has been subject to quite a lot of work, so it doesnt seems that trivial to fix. if you got the fix, i suggest you to contact the developers or even produce the patch03:01
cyberquietI'm not sure if its a bug03:01
zorglu_cyberquiet: talks to packagers on #ubuntu-motu to see what they think03:02
cyberquietthanks zorglu_03:02
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paul__I have installed samb but when I right click asnd selct share the options are grayed out, how do I enable those options?03:03
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abattoironkeltuca: those instructions seem to be for breezy... are you using breezy?03:04
onkeltucaabattoir: no..dapper03:04
onkeltucabut shouldnt it work?03:05
abattoironkeltuca: i don't think you need those if you are in dapper...03:05
wilyi've a problem launching kismet03:05
wilyanyone can help me?03:05
wilyFailed to set up UI server: TcpServer bind() failed: Address already in use03:05
wilythis is my error03:05
abattoironkeltuca: i have a similar laptop, and everything works fine out of the box...03:05
onkeltucahmm03:06
paul__hmm did u put your card in the source section of  kismet.conf ?03:06
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wilyyes of course03:06
zorglu_wily, this mean another apps is using the same address/port03:06
onkeltucaabattoir: which one do u have? and which distri do u use?03:06
abattoironkeltuca: have you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 ?03:06
wilydoh?!?03:06
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wilywhat application?03:06
abattoironkeltuca: Aspire 5002, i'm on edgy now, but i've had it work in dapper03:06
abattoironkeltuca: if you want to use ndiswrapper, then ignore the instructions for bcm43xx03:07
paul__yah I get same error it seems kismet fails to release tjhe process03:07
zorglu_wily: find out the address/port kismet try to bind (via config file or strace), then do a netstat -ntlap to get the address/port and the apps listening on it03:07
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onkeltucaabattoir: ..ok... i ll try that... thx a lot so far...03:08
wilyzorglu_:03:08
wilystate listen03:08
abattoironkeltuca: np03:08
wilyzen2:03:09
wilyzorglu_: Foreing address 0.0.0.0.03:09
klerfaytis there an metapackage that allows me to compile kde styles?03:09
zorglu_wily: i dont understand what you mean03:09
wilycan i call you in pvt03:09
wily?03:09
wilyi paste you my log03:09
zorglu_wily: nope, use pastebin03:10
zorglu_!pastebin03:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:10
paul__a reboot or kill process seems to work for me, it seems kismet srtill runs in process list even though been shutdown , hence address already in use03:10
wilyok !pastebin03:10
wilyzorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27666/03:11
zorglu_lookin03:11
wilyprocess is the first03:11
zorglu_hmm seems like my netstat -p doesnt work that well03:12
zen2whats up wily03:12
wilykismet don't work03:13
wilyzen2:03:13
zen2huh03:13
zorglu_oh ok03:13
zen2did i miss something03:13
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zorglu_wily: i forgot, you need to be root. aka do "sudo netstat -ntlap"03:13
wilyok03:13
zorglu_zen2: i guess a nick completion confusion with me :)03:14
zen2lol makes edense03:14
zen2sense03:14
zen2lol03:14
zen2that makes sense03:14
wilyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27667/03:15
wilyzorglu_:03:15
zorglu_2. tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:2501          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     5324/kismet_server03:15
zorglu_kismet is already running03:15
wilyhow i can close kismetserver?03:16
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paul__told ya it fails to drop process when shutdown03:16
zorglu_that i dunno :) i dont even know what is kizmet03:16
wilythank you zorglu_03:16
paul__so kill in process list or reboot works03:16
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zorglu_the expeditive, but maybe not the wisest, would be "sudo killall kismet_server"03:16
m`kayis there a namerule in ubuntu???03:16
m`kaylike alphabetical?03:17
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wilyok thank you all03:17
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JosefKdoes anyone have a dcop command to get Konqueror to update it's plugin index?03:17
paul__I got a kismet drone running on my wrt54g03:17
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wilypaul__: how i can close kismet_server without rebboot?03:18
JosefKin fact, can anyone communicate with konqueror via dcop at all?  I keep getting "No such application" errors03:18
paul__I go to process list and kill it there03:18
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paul__<--linux newb03:18
abattoirJosefK: use 'dcop' to get the name of the konqueror instance03:18
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wilyi know it paul__03:19
wilyjust killing pid03:19
JosefKabattoir: ah, thanks, I hoped there'd be a generic 'konqueror' instance running03:19
abattoirJosefK: its generally konqueror-xxxx where xxxx is a unique no.03:19
wilybut i wold to know if at reboot i have kismet_server running03:19
abattoirJosefK: no, since you can have different instances of konq. and might want to communicate w/ each differently, each instance has a separate entry03:19
JosefKabattoir: indeed, I can just grep for an id from dcop or start my own if it isn't there in a script I guess03:20
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paul__it dont run at startup by default unless you set it up to , if thats what your refering to ?03:21
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zorglu_dcop konqueror-* KIO::Scheduler reparseConfiguration "" <- JosefK does this work ? this is from http://www.konqueror.org/faq/03:23
wilypaul__: there are you?03:23
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JosefKzorglu_: alas no, that seems to just reload the configuration, it looks like searching for plugins isn't exposed via dcop03:24
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paul__?03:24
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wilyi can't kill kismet_server process03:25
paul__then I guess a reboot03:25
m_tadeuis it possible to add tools to the tool menu in konqueror?03:25
livingdaylightwas it image maggic or image shack?03:26
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abattoirlivingdaylight: imagemagick ?03:27
livingdaylightabattoir: dunno...03:27
abattoirlivingdaylight: imageshak.us is where you can upload images to share03:27
abattoir*imageshack.us03:27
livingdaylightabattoir: thats the one... thx03:27
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zorglu_m_tadeu: use 'kmenuedit'03:30
zorglu_q. i look for  a url scheme to have an url as parameter for another url ... any hint ?03:30
zorglu_ohhhh more seriously is there a ubuntu channel for web stuff ?03:31
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dhq!ftp03:32
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd03:32
m_tadeuzorglu_: I'm talking about the konqueror->tools menu....the find file entry disapeared03:32
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zorglu_m_tadeu: ah ok, then i dunno03:32
dhqcan any one tell me an ftp server which i can configure grafical03:32
Puterohi, somebody know a similar program to SurMix2 for my soundblaster sound card? because i have a Audigy2 with proffesional sound for work, and under linux this card sound like a simple card integrated on mother board03:32
zorglu_m_tadeu: i got the same issue recently, the 'split view left/right' disapeared03:32
dhqfdoving: ^^03:32
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m_tadeuzorglu_: I think  this happened on the kde355 upgrade03:34
dhq!gftp03:34
ubotugftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB03:34
dhq!ftpd03:34
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd03:34
dhq!proftpd03:34
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB03:34
fdovingdhq: pure-ftpd, get the packages 'pure-ftpd' 'kcmpureftpd' then you can find a pureftpd module in 'kcontrol' (kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol')03:34
zorglu_m_tadeu: i didnt update, so im my case, this is not that03:35
dhqfdoving: isnt there any other than pure-ftpd03:35
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m_tadeuzorglu_: I'm googling on that....not much luck03:35
fdovingdhq: not that i know of. i don't use graphical stuff to configure my ftp servers.03:36
zorglu_m_tadeu: personnaly i just use a workaround, aka the 'split left/right' being accessible from elsewhere03:36
dhqfdoving: thanx03:36
dhq:)03:36
JohnFluxHey all03:36
JohnFluxanyone know how to get dual screen working in edgy?03:36
fdovingdhq: there is proftpd and 'gproftpd' too, that's a gtk app, though.. it is graphical. never tried that either.03:37
flaccid!gproftpd03:37
ubotugproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB03:37
flaccidah frontend03:37
m_tadeuzorglu_: yep...I think I'll do the same :) thanks03:38
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micraHi, Im setting up a Apache Server and the files are stored in var/www/, but i dont have access to delete or modify. If i rightclick i see that "root" has access to this folder. How do i change that?04:00
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micraHi, Im setting up a Apache Server and the files are stored in var/www/, but i dont have access to delete or modify. If i rightclick i see that "root" has access to this folder. How do i change that?04:07
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psb154Micra you should have a www-data group you can add your user to.04:11
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micrapsb154: okay, and then i have access or?04:14
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CVirusmust Kmail krash on every mail sent ?04:17
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Meherclehi04:17
JucatoCVirus: *must* it? of course not... :(04:18
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Meherclewhen i press the power button on my computer it will shutdown and halt04:18
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azathorhola cabritos04:18
Meherclebut.. i want him to hibernate04:18
Meherclehow can i config this?04:18
azathoralguien sabe de donde bajar el video code linux en espanol????04:18
hastesaver_!es04:18
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:18
azathor=04:19
azathor=)04:19
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onkeltucaabattior: sry...this doesnt work neither... i have to go through this acpi stuff04:20
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magicmike!paste04:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:21
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User_linuxMinha password doesnt work to log in, but it works to get acess to admin only functions04:23
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User_linuxbtw, how do I select XGL as the default session?04:23
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User_linuxusers and groups modulo couldnt be loaded04:31
User_linuxwhat is broken??04:32
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magicmikeI've been having problems with my networking after I did the updates perhaps someone can help me with this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27671/04:37
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igihi04:38
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igican someone tell me how can I renew my ip address04:38
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igiwith ethtool?04:38
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user_linuxthe module users & grouops could not be loaded04:42
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Digital_PioneerIs that channel topic saying that KDE 3.5.5 is stable? I've got 3.5.2.04:44
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JucatoDigital_Pioneer: it's saying that packages for KDE 3.5.3 are now available04:45
Jucatothat KDE 3.5.5 has been officially released04:45
kimoI'm upgrading to edgy RC, should I leave kde-latest repo on?04:46
Jucatokimo: no need to. Edgy has 3.5.504:46
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francisco_hola04:53
Digital_Pioneerfrancisco_: Just so you know you're not alone in the world, Hi.04:54
Digital_Pioneer;)04:54
BonBonTheJon!es > francisco_04:54
BonBonTheJonDigital_Pioneer: guess he didnt need anything04:54
Digital_PioneerYeah.04:54
Digital_PioneerBonBonTheJon: You can tell he's Spanish by his saying 'Hola'?04:55
Digital_PioneerLOL04:55
kimoDuh, upgrading to edgyRC, it says upstart is broken & not installing it!04:55
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BonBonTheJonDigital_Pioneer: this is a little off topic, but.... do you by chance know anything about the Windows Error-CHecking04:56
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Digital_PioneerBonBonTheJon: Error checking? I know a good bit about Windoze, but you'll have to be more specific.04:56
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swanflhi everyone04:57
soulriderhi04:58
BonBonTheJonhi04:58
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swanfldoes anyone have this problem in Firefox? When I go to preferences, the program crashes.04:58
soulridernot me04:58
soulrideryou might wanna try Opera out though04:58
soulriderits a GREAT browser04:58
B-Minusso is firefox :p04:58
swanflI use opera too, but there are things firefox does that opera does not04:58
soulrideri prefer opera :P04:59
soulriderbut what i like abour FF04:59
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soulrideris that you can delete your history when you exit04:59
soulriderthats cool04:59
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Clinton__Where can I find the default Kubuntu themes?  I changed mine and would like to change it back.05:00
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soulriderit should still be in system settings05:00
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soulrideruber colors and decoration05:00
DeJaMoright click on desktop, configure desktop, defaults05:01
Digital_PioneerHow do I set up multiple user accounts?05:01
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Digital_PioneerLike logging into a different user at KDM.05:02
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soulridersystem settings > users ?05:02
zorglu_Digital_Pioneer: system setting -> user account05:02
zorglu_like he said :)05:02
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Clinton__uh, not quite, now everything is in high contrast05:02
B-Minusis it possible to make a backup of my whole linux partition ?05:03
B-Minusi mean like all linux partitions together05:03
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B-Minusclone05:03
Clinton__B-Minus: yup05:03
B-Minusmm05:03
Digital_Pioneerzorglu_: OK, thanks.05:03
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kimoB-Minus: google for "ghost for linux" or "mondo rescue"05:03
B-Minusok05:04
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Clinton__alright, the default kubuntu theme is nowhere to be found, and defaulting to it isn't possible.  Where can I download the theme?05:04
B-Minustnx05:04
Seph`Nixhi guys, how can i find out wether my kubuntu is dapper, breezy, etc?  i want to update my sources.list - cant remember when i got this cd ^^;05:04
zorglu_Seph`Nix: "lsbrelease -a"05:05
Seph`Nixthankyou :)05:05
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soulriderzorglu_: that wont work for me05:05
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Seph`Nixzorg- lsbrelease: command not found05:06
Seph`Nix:(05:06
Vuenthat's wierd05:06
zorglu_lsb_release -a05:06
zorglu_forgot a _ :)05:06
VuenSeph`Nix: look on the cd, it should give you a version number05:06
Seph`Nixperfect thankyou05:06
Vuenoh, Seph`Nix, you forgot the underscore05:06
Seph`Nix6.06 dapper ^^;05:07
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Vuenwow i'm slow. ignore me05:07
Seph`Nixhaha its ok thanks for helping Vuen :)05:07
swanfllook in your /etc/apt/sources.list05:07
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soulriderim downloading suse, i wanan try it out05:07
soulriderbut as son as edgy comes out05:07
soulriderim comming back05:07
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Vuenwhy suse?05:07
Vuenedgy comes out in five days05:08
soulriderjust wanna try it05:08
Vuenalright05:08
soulrideri never tried any toher distros than kubuntu05:08
Seph`Nixhmm, for the source-o-matic, letter code for england be UK?  GB? E?05:08
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zorglu_uk05:08
Seph`Nixok thanks05:08
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vandenoeveri just installed Edgy RC. Strigi runs great on it! hooray05:09
Vuenstrigi?05:09
vandenoevernow i'm playing with Konqueror05:09
vandenoeverVuen: desktop search05:10
Vuenmmm05:10
vandenoeverVuen: it's in universe, install strigi-applet to test it05:10
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vandenoeverVuen: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi05:10
soulrideri upgraded dapper toe dgy when knot 2 came out05:10
guanoci05:10
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Vueni upgraded to edgy when beta came out05:11
Vuennever had any problems with it05:11
vandenoeverIn konqueror, i cannot switch tabs with ctrl-[ and ctrl-] 05:11
guanoho bisogno di aiuto05:11
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vandenoeverdo others have this problem too?05:11
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user_linuxThe module Users & Groups could not be loaded05:13
swanflI have problems with ctrl + and ctrl _ changing my screen resolution05:13
swanfler ctrl -05:13