[12:10] <jende> Digital_Pioneer: which Kubuntu?Dapper?
[12:10] <Digital_Pioneer> jende, Yeah, Dapper Drake, it calls itself.
[12:11] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: It wouldn't work here til I put it in the mozilla-firefox directory
[12:11] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, Mine (just downloaded) came with 3.5.2.
[12:11] <archangel_> fdoving: 3.5.2
[12:11] <jende> Digital_Pioneer: your card should work out of the box
[12:11] <Digital_Pioneer> jende, There's a Linux driver for it? How do you know what it is?...
[12:12] <dvayanu> hawkwind: but mozilla-firefox is linked to firefox...
[12:12] <dvayanu> at leat on my system
[12:12] <jende> Digital_Pioneer: usually the driver refers to your chipset
[12:12] <fdoving> archangel_: hmm.. then i'm not sure.
[12:12] <dvayanu> hawkwind: i have an error on start too: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3k1tmP86.html
[12:12] <Hawkwind> !baddevice > dvayanu
[12:12] <jende> Digital_Pioneer: type in a console lspci
[12:13] <Digital_Pioneer> jende: One sec.
[12:13] <jende> Digital_Pioneer: if you're not sure what device listed in the output of lspci your wlan card is pastebin the lot
[12:13] <jende> !pastebin
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:13] <Digital_Pioneer> jende, I see something about Texas Instruments ACX 111
[12:13] <fdoving> jende: another acx :)
[12:14] <jende> fdoving: yep...
[12:14] <jende> fdoving: we're having probs I guess with madwifi
[12:14] <Digital_Pioneer> jende, I would guess it's the TI ACX 111#*Chipset.
[12:14] <Digital_Pioneer> ;)
[12:14] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111
[12:15] <dvayanu> hawkwind: ok, gonna read and try that... i'm happy that my config is working at all with a rc kernel (2.6.19-rc2-mm1)
[12:15] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: go to the very bottom, and read the comment, before you do any of the other steps.
[12:15] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, I recognize your nick.
[12:15] <paul__> I cracked routers wep and  wpa with my railink pci wifi card, kubuntu and aircrack :)
[12:15] <jende> fdoving: were there any major changes for wifi's in the past 48hrs?
[12:15] <paul__> my router ^%^
[12:16] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: Why are you using that kernel on Dapper ?
[12:16] <fdoving> jende: don't think so, or were there a linux-restricted-modules update maybe? hang on, i'll check.
[12:16] <dvayanu> hawkwind: edgy
[12:16] <Hawkwind> Ok, why that kernel on Edgy even :P
[12:16] <dvayanu> hawkwind: the only one to support my chipset
[12:16] <dvayanu> p965
[12:16] <Hawkwind> dvayanu: Ah, gotcha
[12:16] <fdoving> jende: this: 2006-10-20 18:52:16 status installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 2.6.17.5-11
[12:16] <jende> fdoving: thanks that you're checking cause the probs in here are getting heaps
[12:17] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, OK, having done that, what do I need to do now? Reboot, or just restart something?
[12:18] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: you can reload the module, from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) run 'sudo rmmod acx;sudo modprobe acx'
[12:18] <VIKI> What do I do? According to java test page. Firefox is using an outdated java plugin, whereas opera doesnt even have a java plugin. But jre is installed. Whenever I try to update java I get a message saying that it's already lastest version. What am I missing?
[12:18] <jende> fdoving: is 18:52 your local time?
[12:19] <thompa> anybody know if I boot live noapic, does my install come out same?
[12:19] <fdoving> jende: no, it's 00:20 here now.
[12:19] <jende> fdoving: so were some changes
[12:19] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!!!
[12:19] <Digital_Pioneer> :D
[12:19] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer :)
[12:19] <pointwood> fdoving: same timezone as I - where do you live?
[12:20] <fdoving> pointwood: Norway.
[12:20] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, I've been working on this for days! FINALLY!!!
[12:20] <jende> Full Acknowlegement from person
[12:20] <archangel_> I try to access my cd/dvd drive and get a "malformed url" error every time. Is my drive bad?
[12:20] <pointwood> fdoving: cool! Denmark here :)
[12:20] <fdoving> pointwood, cool :)
[12:20] <pointwood> Aarhus to be more exact :)
[12:20] <dhq> how do i get the repos source list for edgy
[12:21] <dhq> !edgy
[12:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:21] <dhq> !edgy repos
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy repos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <fdoving> dhq: what do you mean exactly? change the dapper ones to edgy?
[12:22] <dhq> fdoving: its so slow
[12:22] <instructor> !edgy
[12:22] <fdoving> dhq: slow? you can do it fast too: 'sudo sed s/dapper/edgy/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list' for example.
[12:23] <jende> sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy /g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:23] <jende> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:23] <jende> sudo apt-get -f install
[12:23] <jende> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:23] <peacekpr> when i boot my computer, it goes to the KDE Graphical Login Screen but the screen is flickering... i type in my username and password (blindly) and hit Enter.  Immediately, the screen stops flickering and all is well.  Does anyone know what this difference could be?  Does the login screen use a different xorg.conf ?
[12:23] <sorush20> when will kubuntu have an autosource addition tool?
[12:23] <fdoving> jende: you forgot to make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed both before, and after dist-upgrade :] 
[12:23] <peacekpr> the only xorg.conf I know of is in /etc/X11
[12:24] <nail_> anyone had any issues with the KB on the latest live cd? (Edgy)
[12:24] <jende> fdoving: *grrrr* I forgot that to post, damn you're so right
[12:25] <jende> fdoving: I might need one more coffee
[12:26] <VIKI> K O MON
[12:26] <VIKI> Instlal it
[12:26] <VIKI> enable it
[12:26] <VIKI> damn
[12:26] <VIKI> opera is missing java plugin, the java is there
[12:26] <fdoving> I must go to bed very soon, or my gf will probably somehow break my computers.
[12:27] <jende> fdoving: I've got to go soonish, too, as my gf has been already yelling for me...
[12:27] <jende> fdoving: where about in Norway are you?
[12:27] <sorush20> how do I start the cookie deamon?
[12:27] <dvayanu> hawkwind: next question :-) on dapper i had run automatiKs which installed win32codecs, proper fonts and so on... do you know where i can get this for edgy?
[12:28] <fdoving> jende: lesund. it's about in the middle.
[12:28] <jende> fdoving: I might be next year in norway
[12:29] <fdoving> jende: ok, this is offtopic, i'm in #kubuntu-offtopic too :)
[12:29] <jende> fdoving: but not today.
[12:29] <jende> fdoving: we booth should look after our .........
[12:30] <sorush20> what is the cookie daemon please ,, konqueror is unable to start it..
[12:30] <jende> fdoving: before they crack our pc's
[12:30] <fdoving> jende: i agree, it's too late.
[12:30] <jende> good nite everybody...
[12:30] <fdoving> sorush20: kmenu -> system settings -> advanced [tab]  -> service manager
[12:31] <fdoving> jende: nite.
[12:31] <jende> fdoving: see ya tomorrow!?
[12:32] <archangel_> I need help with my cd drive
[12:32] <jende> fdoving: I'll be around
[12:32] <sorush20> fdoving: where is the advanced thing/' there is no advanced tab
[12:32] <fdoving> sorush20: it's at the very top, not really a tab, it's a button.
[12:32] <jende> archangel_: whats the prob?
[12:32] <fdoving> jende: i'll probably be here too. see you.
[12:32] <fdoving> gnite all.
[12:33] <jende> fdoving: I'll fix archangel and then I'll be gone, too
[12:33] <jende> archangel_: ???
[12:33] <jende> !ask
[12:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:34] <archangel_> sorry (kids)
[12:34] <morghanphoenix> adding a fstab entry for a fat32 external hdd, type options and pass paramaters unsure, I believe it is vfat user, noauto 0 0, is this correct?
[12:34] <archangel_> I have switched 2 drives and I cant get either to work
[12:34] <jende> archangel_: I'm not a kid, sorry!
[12:34] <archangel_> lol
[12:35] <archangel_> no I mean sorry it took me a while to respond
[12:35] <archangel_> I was dealing with MY kids
[12:35] <jende> archangel_: so what is the prob with your cd-drives?
[12:36] <archangel_> 1 of them I keep getting a "malformed error" that keep popping up when I try to access it
[12:36] <archangel_> and the other I get nothing
[12:36] <archangel_> as if a drive is not installed
[12:37] <jende> archangel_: did each got mounted?
[12:37] <archangel_> not sure how to
[12:37] <jende> archangel_: check it by openening a console (ALT+F2) and at the prompt of the console you type: mount
[12:38] <archangel_> jende: ok, what now
[12:38] <jende> archangel_: its not there, is ist?
[12:39] <archangel_> jende: no
[12:39] <jende> archangel_: shouldn't be...good
[12:39] <jende> archangel_: now close the console and press again ALT+F2
[12:39] <mike> problem installing xbuntu
[12:39] <archangel_> jende: ok
[12:39] <mike> please help
[12:40] <jende> and type kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[12:40] <mike> my computer freezes when installin xbuntu
[12:40] <jende> archangel_: paste the lot to pastebin
[12:40] <rawrness> fun
[12:40] <jende> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:41] <rawrness> try thte alt. install mike
[12:41] <mike> rawrness: what alt?
[12:41] <mike> oo the alt install
[12:41] <rawrness> alt. install cd?
[12:41] <coreymon77> okay
[12:41] <coreymon77> fdoving
[12:41] <rawrness> live cds can be real slow
[12:41] <mike> ok but i used the same insatll i used for ubuntu, i had normal ubuntu working ine but am switching to xbuntu for my laptop
[12:42] <coreymon77> i did the whole sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <coreymon77> is that it
[12:42] <rawrness> then just install the thingy for it
[12:42] <coreymon77> is all i have to do now restart?
[12:42] <jende> coreymon77: fdoving went to bed
[12:42] <rawrness> if you got ubuntu runing
[12:42] <coreymon77> im using dapper
[12:42] <coreymon77> and apt is just finsishing witht he apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:43] <jende> coreymon77: so you should be fine now
[12:43] <mike> rawrness:  what do u mean install the thingy for it?
[12:43] <rawrness> il ring ya up a site 1 min
[12:43] <coreymon77> what about those other commands, like -f install
[12:43] <rawrness> btw why how do you make the red text?
[12:43] <rawrness> how&*
[12:43] <coreymon77> and configure -a
[12:43] <archangel_> jende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27578/
[12:43] <jende> coreymon77: don't worry bout them anymore
[12:44] <coreymon77> just restart
[12:44] <mike> rawrness:  to make text red type the person name in front who u are talking to
[12:44] <mike> rawrness:  usualy just type first letter or two then press tab
[12:44] <mike> rawrness: u got that website?
[12:45] <rawrness> mike: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[12:45] <rawrness> mike: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu ?
[12:45] <jende> archangel_: that lokks just fine
[12:45] <rawrness> donn't look red
[12:45] <jende> archangel_: that looks just fine
[12:45] <VIKI> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dicas/verDica.php?codigo=6761
[12:45] <Bauh> algum maluco afim de fumar um baseado?
[12:46] <Bauh> vamos queimar uma resina!
[12:46] <archangel_> jende: should work now?
[12:46] <jende> !es
[12:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:46] <mike> rawrness: will that take off ubuntu too ?
[12:46] <jende> archangel_: and whenever you have a CD in there you get that error?
[12:47] <archangel_> jende: only with my dvd drive
[12:47] <rawrness> mike: when you boot you can click session and what desktop ya want to ru n
[12:47] <archangel_> jende: I switched out with a another drive and I get nothing out of this one
[12:48] <mike> http://guidetolinux.wetpaint.com/
[12:48] <rawrness> mike:  it then becomes default
[12:48] <coreymon77> wow
[12:48] <coreymon77> there is alot to uppgrade
[12:48] <coreymon77> its been unpacking and setting up for almost 10 minutes now!
[12:48] <archangel_> jende: should i switch back to the dvd drive (at least I get an error with that one)
[12:48] <jende> archangel_: yep, do that...they're internal ones?
[12:49] <archangel_> jende: yeah, give me 2.5 minutes at the most
[12:49] <jende> VIKI: it makes no sense to post links to non-eglish sites in here
[12:49] <jende> archangel_: no worries
[12:50] <VIKI> Found what is wrong. Opera is missing the link to java plugin, but where is java?
[12:50] <jende> VIKI: sudo find / -name java
[12:51] <jende> VIKI: or sudo locate java
[12:51] <Dasnipa] [> you do not have to run sudo to use locate.
[12:51] <Dasnipa] [> that is a very bad idea
[12:51] <jende> VIKI: /usr/bin/
[12:53] <jende> Dasnipa] [: the ooutput is the same, so that shouldn't bother now really
[12:54] <VIKI> ok, ive found java
[12:54] <VIKI> but opera is missing the link
[12:54] <jende> Dasnipa] [: or do you think its worth discussing now?I'm quite tired already anyway
[12:55] <archangel_> jende: should I get an icon?
[12:55] <jende> archangel_: an icon?you mean the drive is connected and a CD or DVD is inserted?
[12:55] <archangel_> jende: malformed url   again
[12:56] <archangel_> jende: yes
[12:56] <archangel_> jende: sorry it took so long
[12:56] <jende> archangel_: I guess you get that window in which you'll be aked to tell what to do, ie. open and stuff
[12:56] <archangel_> jende: I am using a data cd and the drive is saying that the cd is black
[12:56] <jende> archangel_: I guess you get that window in which you'll be asked to tell what to do, ie. open and stuff
[12:57] <archangel_> jende: I mean blank
[12:57] <Dasnipa] [> jende, but its horrible practice to run programs in sudo that you dont need to
[12:57] <jende> archangel_: what data cd is it?
[12:57] <archangel_> jende: pictures from my camera
[12:58] <Dasnipa] [> jende, you might give new users the impression they need to sudo everything and taht will create a ton more problems... hmm sudo firefox... sudo xchat... yeah all smart ideas
[12:58] <jende> Dasnipa] [: I know that, but it's already 1am and I'm getting tired unfortunately; nope I'll never ever gave users that impression and haven't got on mind to do!
[12:59] <archangel_> jende: there on there are 555 pics
[12:59] <mike> you guys all get ur flash 9 alphas!!!!
[12:59] <jende> archangel_: but the cd hasn't been burnt as a picture cd?
[12:59] <archangel_> jende: everything I put in there is 'blank'
[12:59] <jende> archangel_: do the drives work in other machines?
[12:59] <archangel_> jende: no it was burned as a data cd
[01:01] <magicmike> Yo jende.
[01:01] <archangel_> jende: yes the one I am using now does for sure
[01:02] <archangel_> jende: crap I have to go, I will be on later.    Sorry to cut you off
[01:02] <jende> archangel_: open a console again ;-) and type ls -al /dev/cdrom
[01:02] <archangel_> ok
[01:02] <mike> rawrness:  us see flash 9 alpha is out!
[01:02] <jende> mike: flash9 beta is out
[01:02] <rawrness> i am using flash 9b
[01:02] <intelikey> hmmm i may not be back yet...
[01:03] <rawrness> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bQM5r-_8aw
[01:03] <dragonflyseven> Will flash 9 be in 6.10? Probably not...
[01:03] <dragonflyseven> Oh well.
[01:03] <mike> jende: yea i called it alpha my b
[01:03] <archangel_> still nothing
[01:03] <archangel_> sorry got to go
[01:04] <mike> jende:  it works great, finally i can visit hose flash 9 sites lol
[01:04] <LjL> !flash9
[01:04] <dvayanu> jende: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.so [/opt/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] 
[01:04] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[01:04] <ubuntu> hi
[01:04] <mluser-work> is there a 'rc.local' or 'local.start' type file that I can add stuff to happen at boot time?
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> I didn't even know it was available. I've been working 18 hr days the last 4 days :(
[01:05] <ubuntu> my god
[01:05] <ubuntu> this is the first time, i use kubuntu, and i am a little lost
[01:05] <dragonflyseven> eightteen hours a day= not very much fun
[01:05] <jende> archangel_: I need the ooutput of the given command
[01:05] <dragonflyseven> ubuntu: any questions?
[01:05] <birge> lots of
[01:05] <dragonflyseven> birge: any questions?
[01:06] <dragonflyseven> Such as?
[01:06] <birge> how to set keyboard to hungarian
[01:06] <rawrness> control panel
[01:06] <rawrness> under k menu keyboards
[01:07] <yamal> mluser-work: in /etc
[01:07] <mluser-work> yamal: thanks.. I found it :)
[01:07] <pointwood> first impression of edgy: ohh...shiny :D
[01:07] <magicmike> Yo jende. I had Ubuntu installed before instead of Kubuntu. Now I have Kubuntu installed. I liked the Firefox, and Gaim which isn't on this. Can it be installed?
[01:07] <VIKI> isnt 1.5 the lastest version of java??
[01:07] <pointwood> looks more polished than dapper
[01:07] <VIKI> java site is telling me that this version is outdated
[01:07] <jende> magicmike: sure
[01:07] <birge> system settings?
[01:08] <dragonflyseven> birge: K Menu, then Settings, then peripherals
[01:08] <rawrness> click the big k button
[01:08] <rawrness> thats kmenu
[01:08] <rawrness> see dragonflys thingy
[01:08] <jende> !gaim
[01:08] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[01:08] <dvayanu> viki: jdk1.5_09
[01:08] <VIKI> 909?
[01:08] <VIKI> mine is 06
[01:09] <dvayanu> viki: thats still ok
[01:09] <dvayanu> viki: and the problem is?
[01:09] <birge> yep
[01:09] <VIKI> im trying to acess a webchat
[01:09] <dragonflyseven> This is completely off topic: I am trying to become addicted to IRC, but I don't know of any interesting channels. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:09] <dvayanu> you need the plugin
[01:09] <VIKI> but the pop up window with the java plugin will never pop up
[01:10] <dvayanu> viki: you installed the plugin?
[01:10] <VIKI> according to java test page, yes
[01:10] <dragonflyseven> Oh, Birge!
[01:10] <VIKI> CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!
[01:10] <dragonflyseven> Its not peripherals.
[01:10] <jende> magicmike: Hi Mike!I'll be gone in a few mins, but here is what you have to do:Open a console using ALT+F2 and the type at the console-prompt sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox
[01:10] <intelikey> dragonflyseven yes.   'do your self a fabour, get a real life, and leave irc to us L-users'
[01:11] <VIKI> opera might be blocking the pop up
[01:11] <dragonflyseven> It is KMenu>Settings>Regional and Accesibility> keyboard
[01:11] <birge> ok, i am a total newbie... a windows user, fed up with windows, and want to change
[01:11] <dvayanu> viki: dont know anything about opera :-)
[01:11] <VIKI> oh
[01:11] <VIKI> right
[01:11] <dragonflyseven> birge: yep, I did the same thing a few months ago.
[01:11] <VIKI> opera was blocking the pop up
[01:11] <T3hWiz0rd> birge: lol you just made this sound like an introductory session of Windows Rehab or something :-P
[01:12] <dragonflyseven> intelikey: but real lives are boring!
[01:12] <morphish> birge: kubuntu seems to be a nice distro for "switchers"
[01:12] <T3hWiz0rd> "Hi my names bill. Outlook made me strangle my wife." "HI BILL!"
[01:12] <VIKI> I installed automatix is it better or worse than Adept?
[01:12] <LjL> !automatix
[01:12] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[01:12] <LjL> automatix has nothing to do with adept
[01:12] <LjL> !adept
[01:12] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:12] <LjL> please don't use automatix
[01:12] <VIKI> why?
[01:12] <dvayanu> whyn ot?
[01:12] <birge> lol
[01:12] <intelikey> dragonflyseven it's not the life. it's the person living it.
[01:12] <LjL> because it breaks.
[01:12] <T3hWiz0rd> is aptitude ever going to be finallized?
[01:12] <T3hWiz0rd> !aptitude
[01:12] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:13] <jende> ...and its not supported
[01:13] <mike> jende: what were u telling me to do?
[01:13] <LjL> jende: yeah, but the factoid already says that ;P
[01:13] <T3hWiz0rd> is aptitude gonna replace apt ever?
[01:13] <cies> wow!
[01:13] <cies> this is a fat channel!
[01:13] <jende> magicmike: is it doing it?
[01:13] <dragonflyseven> intelikey: psh. I use linux, i think I gave up on the "real life" thing a while ago. :)
[01:13] <birge> ok, so help me rehab
[01:13] <mike> how do i chekc what version of java i am running?
[01:13] <dragonflyseven> birge:
[01:13] <T3hWiz0rd> birge: well what are your questions?
[01:13] <LjL> now that we have auto-dependency-tracking built into APT, i don't care much for aptitude anymore
[01:14] <dragonflyseven> have you installed media codecs?
[01:14] <rcarr> mike: java --version
[01:14] <magicmike> Nothing happening.
[01:14] <intelikey> probobably so so so so so
[01:14] <rcarr> mike: java -version, not java --version sorry
[01:14] <cies> i had a lot of issues with 6.10, resulting in giving up on installing (tried 5 times), where can i report bugs?
[01:14] <jende> magicmike: nothing?
[01:14] <LjL> !bugs
[01:14] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:14] <dragonflyseven> Try Easy Ubuntu (http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/). It is a great way to get most stuff working.
[01:14] <rcarr> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[01:15] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[01:15] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:15] <magicmike> Nothing at all. If I type it in the console it says it couldn't find the gaim package.
[01:15] <dragonflyseven> It worked great for me. I wish I had known of it before I started.
[01:15] <jende> magicmike: you have to enable the repos for that
[01:16] <jende> magicmike: is the sources.list still as like as it was earlier today?
[01:16] <birge> my main question is to sleep, or not to sleep... but i think, you cant help me
[01:16] <magicmike> No, I installed Kubuntu, earlier I was using Ubuntu.
[01:17] <magicmike> This has Kate installed. How do I bring up the sources.list in this one?
[01:17] <jende> magicmike: do you remember what we did with the sources?
[01:17] <magicmike> Yea, I remember.
[01:17] <morphish> birge: then enjoy a good night's rest, and burn the CD you downloaded while you slept, and run the "Desktop CD" so you can see if you like it, if you do, start xchat there, and be ready SHOULD questions arise after clicking "Install" on desktop
[01:17] <jende> magicmike: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:17] <dragonflyseven> birge: sleep is silly. when you think about it, typing doesnt take much engery at all.
[01:18] <birge> thx
[01:18] <morphish> birge: sleep is important because our IQ drops a lot if we don't sleep ;)
[01:18] <intelikey> dragonflyseven as to the question, one true bit of advice. pick a topic that you really like. and avoid it in irc channel names.    i.e. if you like linux stay away from ##linux     cause it has been my exp. that channels with the name of your favorite subject will pretty much turn you against it....    (end off topic broad cast)
[01:19] <T3hWiz0rd> so much easier to read.
[01:19] <sorush20> how do I start the kde print server?
[01:19] <jmichaelx> is it still discouraged to ask questions about edgy in this channel? :-D
[01:19] <sorush20> I keep getting the message that it is not started..
[01:19] <sorush20> I don't think edgy is going to be that edgy..
[01:19] <jende> jmichaelx: wouldn't say so
[01:20] <jmichaelx> good....
[01:20] <mike> i have a java game that just hung and i cant quite it any ideas?
[01:20] <T3hWiz0rd> edgy will run fine i reckon.
[01:20] <intelikey> kill it
[01:20] <T3hWiz0rd> I look forward to seeing it.
[01:20] <intelikey> mike killall <name>
[01:20] <mike> intelikey: how do i kill it
[01:20] <mike> intelikey: i am not sure of the name
[01:20] <jende> brb
[01:20] <intelikey> mike ps -A x
[01:21] <birge> ok, i am a bit tired, and slow by now, after a day long work, but i dont want to go to bed, until my keyboard is hungarian, so help me, and i will stop disturbing you with noob questions
[01:21] <jende> b
[01:21] <intelikey> mike anything with java or jre might work  cause killall will kill the named + all children
[01:22] <MetaMorfoziS> by'all
[01:22] <jende> MetaMorfoziS: bye
[01:22] <jende> magicmike: where are you?
[01:22] <mike> intelikey: y eai just tried kill all java nd it worked
[01:22] <birge> i found a regional&accessibility menu... is it good?
[01:22] <mike> intelikey:  can u help me get this java game not to hang when i try and play it?
[01:22] <jende> birge: yep
[01:23] <mike> rawrness: u just like changing names dont u
[01:23] <magicmike> Right here.
[01:23] <rawrness> yup
[01:23] <magicmike> Finished editing.
[01:23] <jende> magicmike: are you working on your sources.list?
[01:23] <magicmike> I saved it already.
[01:23] <jende> magicmike: pastebin it just to make sure everything is fine
[01:23] <birge> good news? what is the next step?
[01:24] <intelikey> mike example; killall /bin/sh       if you had a shell script that hung something but you didn't know what.     and yes  killall java    in your case.     but as to your Q. no. i don't do java nor windows.
[01:25] <rcarr> If you have multiple instances of a program runningg and only want to kill one, run ps -A | grep processname
[01:25] <rcarr> and record the pid, then use kill pid
[01:25] <rcarr> rather than killall
[01:25] <rcarr> just a useful note
[01:25] <mike> intelikey:  i am not on windows
[01:25] <jende> birge: is hungaria in there?
[01:25] <magicmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27588/
[01:26] <intelikey> rcarr why not   kill `pidof blah`
[01:26] <birge> where exactly?
[01:26] <jende> magicmike: well done!
[01:27] <jende> magicmike: now do in the consoole again a sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox
[01:27] <jende> birge:I'll open it...hold on
[01:27] <birge> k
[01:27] <birge> thx
[01:27] <jende> birge: add language
[01:27] <rcarr> intelikey: Because that still doesn't help if you have multiple instances and only want to kill one
[01:28] <intelikey> jende don't mean to but in, but did he/she apt-get update ?
[01:28] <birge> yepp.. i added hungarian, and kubuntu became hungarian
[01:28] <birge> but i still cant type hungarian letters
[01:28] <magicmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27589/
[01:28] <dragonflyseven> birge: did you go to the Keyboard Layout settings?
[01:28] <JosefK> magicmike: ps -ef | grep dpkg | wc -l
[01:29] <birge> yepp
[01:29] <jende> magicmike: you forgot, as we did it earlier, and as intelikey just mentioned to do your sudo apt-get update.
[01:29] <JosefK> magicmike: if > 0, mercilessly slaughter dpkg processes
[01:29] <tom__> ok i have finily got the newest version unbuntu how do i install the java plug in for fire fox
[01:29] <dragonflyseven> Hmmm... Have you restarted?
[01:29] <intelikey> rcarr multi-processes with same name.... who would know which to kill anyway.  but that's niether here nor there.   sudo kill -9 -1     will get it.
[01:29] <JosefK> intelikey: ptree usually helps
[01:30] <intelikey> pstree ^
[01:30] <jende> birge: in the installation process you got asked what keyboard and stuff you're using what did you say as an answer?
[01:30] <JosefK> intelikey: pfft, ptree on solaris ^^
[01:30] <birge> no, because i only use live..
[01:30] <birge> i dont want to install  until i know it well
[01:30] <jende> magicmike: is kate still open?
[01:30] <sorush20> I can't print the test pages I keep getting the message that A print error occurred. Error message received from system:
[01:30] <sorush20> Unable to start child print process. The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running.
[01:31] <Noob1> !java > Noob1
[01:31] <jende> birge: well than you have to live with english keyboard layout
[01:31] <intelikey> did birge just say he was never going to install linux ???
[01:31] <magicmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27591/
[01:31] <dragonflyseven> Hey! I can stop trying to set up network printing! I just realized Edgy is coming out in six days, and since I am reinstalling then anyway I shouldnt bother with anything?
[01:31] <birge> wow
[01:31] <birge> i found it
[01:31] <magicmike> No. But I can open it.
[01:32] <birge> of course, i want to install linux, but first i want to learn about it
[01:32] <Noob1> how can i tell what version of unbuntu im running
[01:32] <birge> and my father uses this computer too, and he is useless even in windows... but i will teach him;)
[01:32] <jende> magicmike: hehe...pastebin me yoour sources.list
[01:32] <Brydenn33> :)
[01:33] <jende> magicmike: don't have to
[01:33] <dragonflyseven> birge: remember you can dual boot if you want.
[01:33] <jende> magicmike: still have yours here
[01:33] <birge> i know
[01:33] <intelikey> birge heh no offence inteneded,   just a joke about "knowing linux well"     who does ?     not i.
[01:33] <birge> :)
[01:34] <coreymon77> wow
[01:34] <coreymon77> its still setting up stuff
[01:35] <jende> magicmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27594/
[01:35] <coreymon77> this has been going on for close to an hour
[01:35] <magicmike> Okay.
[01:35] <rawrness> whats  AIGLX
[01:35] <birge> i am so proud of me:D
[01:35] <intelikey> coreymon77 common
[01:35] <rawrness> ! AIGLX
[01:35] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[01:35] <jende> magicmike: delete all the US thingys in there as I've posted
[01:35] <birge> and thx for the help
[01:35] <birge> now i go to sleep
[01:35] <dragonflyseven> birge: bye
[01:35] <coreymon77> intellikey: im not kidding
[01:36] <intelikey> nn coreymon77 you misread me.
[01:36] <birge> goodnight
[01:36] <coreymon77> ???
[01:36] <intelikey> birge gooday
[01:36] <jende> coreymon77: that ca happen, depending on how many packages needs to be downloaded
[01:36] <jende> coreymon77: and configured and installed
[01:37] <intelikey> coreymon77 you're installing what ?
[01:37] <coreymon77> edgy
[01:37] <coreymon77> from dapper
[01:37] <intelikey> and it's been configuring things for an hour.   that's common.
[01:37] <jende> intelikey: coreymon77 is upgrading from dapper to edgy, AFAIK
[01:37] <birge> goodday? At Hungary it's 01:37 AM....
[01:37] <ubuntu> heya, 1st time on kubuntu here
[01:37] <ubuntu> not on linux though
[01:38] <dragonflyseven> birge: we are americentric.
[01:38] <dragonflyseven> Its not our fault, we were raised that way.
[01:38] <birge> i see:D
[01:38] <dragonflyseven> :D
[01:38] <coreymon77> it started the setting up process (downloading took a while too, but was done already) at 6:35
[01:38] <jende> dragonflyseven: and I'm quite eurocentric...;-)
[01:38] <jmichaelx> could anyone tell me why my internal hard drives do not show up in konqueror or krusader in kubuntu edgy?
[01:38] <intelikey> jende we wont hold that against you :)
[01:39] <magicmike> I still get that unable to unlock message.
[01:39] <vn-> I saw someone switching of desktop with some simple move and it<s like a cube in 3d, rotation...I think the name is XGL, can I use that in the default kubuntu livecd^
[01:39] <jende> intelikey: thannks mate!
[01:39] <vn-> ?
[01:39] <jende> magicmike: reboot
[01:39] <magicmike> Okay.
[01:40] <coreymon77> what the
[01:40] <intelikey> vn- on the live....  not the best of ideas.  but possable i suppose.
[01:40] <dragonflyseven> jende: Europe is stupid. Everything cool comes from america. Like Linux and Ubuntu.
[01:40] <coreymon77> guys
[01:40] <coreymon77> problem
[01:40] <vn-> why so?
[01:40] <LjL> dragonflyseven: like... Linux?
[01:41] <vn-> isn<t linux coming from Finland, which is in Europe^
[01:41] <intelikey> dragonflyseven linux came from sweden
[01:41] <vn-> ?
[01:41] <vn-> LOL
[01:41] <intelikey> or norway
[01:41] <jende> dragonflyseven: oh...I thought that linus torvalds is from finland
[01:41] <LjL> intelikey: finland
[01:41] <dragonflyseven> everyone: I was kidding. I am not an idiot.
[01:41] <vn-> Helsinki
[01:41] <vn-> finland
[01:41] <coreymon77> major problem
[01:41] <dragonflyseven> It was finland.
[01:41] <coreymon77> look at this
[01:41] <LjL> dragonflyseven: alrighty :)
[01:41] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27595/
[01:41] <dragonflyseven> And Ubuntu is south africa.
[01:41] <intelikey> LjL it's all viking country to me...
[01:41] <vn-> but uhm where am I supposed to get this 3d cubic desktop thingy in the livecd?
[01:42] <jende> dragonflyseven: wrong Ubunutu is a circus
[01:42] <coreymon77> guys
[01:42] <dragonflyseven> vn: that is kind of complicated.
[01:42] <coreymon77> can you look at that and tell me what the matter is?
[01:42] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27595/
[01:42] <dragonflyseven> Does anyone know of an .iso that has XGL/Compiz pre-installed?
[01:43] <vn-> dragonflyseven: but it<s easy if I install it?
[01:43] <jende> www.ubuntu.de <- esp for dragonflyseven
[01:43] <LjL> dragonflyseven: kororaa. not ubuntu though
[01:43] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: That on Dapper or Edgy ?
[01:43] <Hawkwind> kororaa is no longer maintained either and they took all their ISO's offline here not long ago. Not sure if they put them back
[01:44] <jende> Hawkwind: he is on edgy--trying to upgrade AFAIK
[01:44] <coreymon77> hawkind, i just did apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:44] <dragonflyseven> vn: I am not sure how easy it is. It is harder with KDE than GNOME. At least it was...
[01:44] <magicmike> Back.
[01:44] <coreymon77> but havent restarted yet
[01:44] <jende> magicmike: now open the console
[01:44] <coreymon77> so what is it
[01:45] <dragonflyseven> jende: um, that is odd.
[01:45] <coreymon77> apt-get dist upgrade has run
[01:45] <vn-> anyway ubuntu looks so easy
[01:45] <coreymon77> but i havent restarted
[01:45] <vn-> compared to what it was 2 years ago
[01:45] <jende> magicmike: and do a sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox
[01:45] <coreymon77> i do install kubuntu-desktop as part of the command
[01:45] <coreymon77> and thats what it gives me
[01:45] <dragonflyseven> vn: I wouldn't know, but I have heard it was really hard.
[01:45] <magicmike> Shouldn't I do that update first?
[01:46] <coreymon77> hawkind? whats the problem here?
[01:46] <jende> magicmike: sure, I'll let you think a bit now as well
[01:46] <vn-> I guess the best way to know is to try!
[01:46] <jende> magicmike: and it works, which is good
[01:46] <LjL> !xgl
[01:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:46] <coreymon77> hawkwind?
[01:46] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: No idea.  Try asking in #Ubuntu+1 since you're now running Edgy and that is the Edgy channel
[01:47] <rat_> HEEELO
[01:47] <vn-> oh
[01:47] <magicmike> Same message as before.
[01:47] <vn-> so XGL is still alpha
[01:47] <jende> magicmike: okay
[01:47] <vn-> it seems to work so well
[01:47] <peacekpr> anyone have any idea why i can't hear any sound upon one reboot?
[01:47] <jende> magicmike: cd /etc/apt
[01:47] <dragonflyseven> Well, of to the wonderful world of the real world. Bye all.
[01:47] <coreymon77> am i running edgy?
[01:47] <coreymon77> cause i havent restarted yet
[01:48] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: If you dist-upgraded after changing your sources.list, then yes
[01:48] <archangel_> hey, how does one with linux connect via dialup with aol? I have a buddy that will make the switch, but needs the net via dialup.
[01:48] <jende> magicmike: are you there
[01:48] <Hawkwind> coreymon77: You probably need to reboot first
[01:48] <peacekpr> i have a soundblaster card that is recognized by the system, the kernel module snd_emu10k1 is loaded just fine - i have not made any changes between the reboot ... but i reboot and sound no longer works
[01:48] <peacekpr> it's very strange
[01:48] <magicmike> done
[01:48] <jmichaelx> could anyone tell me why my internal hard drives do not show up in konqueror or krusader in kubuntu edgy?
[01:48] <T3hWiz0rd> why does the kde crystal theme seem to be so laggy?
[01:48] <intelikey> coreymon77 try booting the newly upgraded and then gripe about all it broke.
[01:48] <jende> coreymon77: I'd probably would give apt-get -f install achance as well as a dpkg-configure --a
[01:49] <jende> coreymon77: before you reboot
[01:49] <coreymon77> okay
[01:49] <coreymon77> okay
[01:49] <coreymon77> thanks
[01:49] <jende> magicmike: type ls -l and tell me if there sre 2 sources.list's
[01:49] <peacekpr> i'm running dapper
[01:49] <jende> magicmike: type ls -l and tell me if there are 2 sources.list's
[01:50] <intelikey> peacekpr cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:50] <peacekpr> i've read every troubleshooting tutorial that i can find... any suggestions on getting sound to work again?  it worked once before! heh
[01:50] <peacekpr> intelikey, that returns the VIA chipset and the Soundblaster
[01:51] <intelikey> it may be trying to default to the onboard
[01:51] <peacekpr> yeah, the onboard is listed is "0" and the SBLive as "1"
[01:51] <peacekpr> does "0" signify default ?
[01:51] <intelikey> set card 1 as default
[01:51] <magicmike> I had the adept updater on. It fetched the updates. Should I apply them?
[01:52] <jende> magicmike: well, yes...but then quit adept
[01:52] <peacekpr> intelikey, what command do i use to set card 1 as default ?
[01:52] <intelikey> unless adjusted everything defalts to 0  afaik
[01:52] <jende> magicmike: and do it from the console, okay
[01:53] <intelikey> peacekpr hmmmm what if i say 'i don't know' ?
[01:53] <magicmike> I was. That's probably why it was locked.
[01:53] <jende> magicmike: not probably; definitely
[01:53] <magicmike> Tryinfg to be an admin in 2 places.
[01:54] <jende> magicmike: shouldn't confuse you...hehehe
[01:54] <peacekpr> intelikey, i'd be bummed - heh
[01:54] <magicmike> LOL. Not hard to do.
[01:54] <pointwood> fdoving: thanks for the help solving my problems - if you ever come to Aarhus, I'll buy you a beer ;)
[01:54] <jende> magicmike: so, the updates are running?
[01:55] <magicmike> The one in adept is about half done.
[01:55] <rat_> LOL
[01:55] <intelikey> peacekpr sound is not where i play around really.   maybe someone else can tell you the "easy" way to set the card1 as the default alsa output
[01:55] <jende> magicmike: good...now grab yourself a beer in the meantime
[01:55] <intelikey> someone ?
[01:56] <jende> intelikey: I'm not into sound nor multimedia either
[01:56] <intelikey> someone else ?
[01:56] <jende> !2soundcards
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2soundcards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <jende> !2 soundcards
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2 soundcards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <intelikey> !sound
[01:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:57] <magicmike> Already knocked down several glasses of Merlot!. How else do you think I could come back for more of this torture. ROFLMAO
[01:57] <rat_> PROBLEMS WITH CAPS LOCK ON REMOTE DESKTOP TO UBUNTU
[01:59] <intelikey> rat_ maybe press  [ctrl] +[SysRQ] +[R]   then try it.
[01:59] <Shyne_> !bluetooth
[01:59] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:00] <rat_> ERM GOT NO SYSRQ DUDE
[02:00] <jende> peacekpr: maybe that thingy helps; haven't read it but google said its good
[02:00] <jende> peacekpr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273972
[02:01] <jende> magicmike: hello???where is my wine?
[02:01] <magicmike> Give me your address and I'll ship it to ya!
[02:01] <jende> magicmike: hehehe
[02:01] <rat_> hahaha classic sorted it
[02:01] <intelikey> !info wine
[02:01] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[02:02] <rat_> you loverly people
[02:02] <jende> magicmike: I'd like to have it now...well so I'll grab me a beer instead
[02:02] <jende> brb
[02:02] <magicmike> Always need some for later.
[02:03] <rat_> magners n ice ummmmm
[02:03] <archangel_> anyone know how to import pics to the ipod using amarok?
[02:03] <bertha> !es
[02:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:04] <jende> intelikey: thanky for that sort of "wine"
[02:04] <intelikey> :)
[02:04] <magicmike> Hey don't get him too drunk now.
[02:05] <jende> magicmike: cheeeeeers
[02:05] <witerain> let me in
[02:05] <rat_> in were
[02:05] <jende> witerain: in where???
[02:05] <witerain> somewhere in us
[02:06] <jende> witerain: they wont let you in...hehehe
[02:06] <magicmike> If only there were some Ganja or hashish to top it all off.....
[02:06] <witerain> hehe
[02:06] <jende> magicmike: pssssssssssssst.....
[02:06] <intelikey> just swim the river.   every one else does.
[02:06] <witerain> beer is not enough ah.
[02:07] <jende> magicmike: how afr are we?
[02:07] <jende> magicmike: how far are we?
[02:07] <rat_> beer is great
[02:07] <rat_> its the only thing u need
[02:07] <witerain> compere to them...hmm
[02:07] <magicmike> ew ear otn taht raf. LOL
[02:07] <witerain> ok..cool..cuz..thats the only thing to m
[02:07] <jende> rat_: it#s got to be german or australian beer; a guinness is still alright
[02:07] <magicmike> We are not that far.
[02:08] <coreymon77> ooh!
[02:08] <coreymon77> new konversations really nice
[02:08] <witerain> well...
[02:08] <coreymon77> !
[02:08] <witerain> guiness in the frig..
[02:08] <magicmike> 90%
[02:08] <jende> coreymon77: you've got beer??
[02:08] <witerain> dam..good..
[02:08] <magicmike> Guinness _Brilliant! LOL
[02:08] <witerain> one in my hand others in frig
[02:09] <jende> witerain: be qquiet now, please
[02:09] <witerain> do you guys seriousely think guiness make one drunk?
[02:09] <magicmike> Done.
[02:09] <jende> witerain: not, if you add cidre to it
[02:09] <jende> magicmike: close adept
[02:09] <magicmike> done
[02:09] <jende> magicmike: open the console
[02:10] <jende> magicmike: and now?
[02:10] <jende> magicmike: tell me
[02:10] <chill3r> ahhhhhhhhhhh thats betta
[02:11] <peacekpr> intelikey, jende: FYI, to get sound working in XMMS, i went into the Plugins section and clicked "Configure" for the ALSA Output plugin.  I selected a different sound card (hw:1,0) and XMMS now plays my music .... all of the drivers, etc are loaded properly
[02:11] <coreymon77> the edgy konversation is really nice!
[02:11] <jende> magicmike: remember what is next?
[02:11] <rawrness> !beryl
[02:11] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:11] <peacekpr> so that seems to be proof that alsa isn't using the correct card for default sound... i had to tell XMMS to use card 1 instead of 0
[02:11] <magicmike> Okay sudo apt-get install gaim mozilla-firefox
[02:11] <jende> magicmike: yes!!!
[02:12] <jende> magicmike: do it
[02:12] <magicmike> done
[02:12] <jende> rawrness: beryl is still in Pre-Alpha
[02:12] <rawrness> fun
[02:12] <magicmike> How do I get evolution?
[02:12] <witerain> why my amork is not wokring..
[02:13] <rawrness> casue it hates you
[02:13] <jende> magicmike: so has it installed gaim and firefox?
[02:13] <rawrness> how is it not working
[02:13] <witerain> ho..ho..
[02:13] <witerain>  i think so..
[02:13] <magicmike> Yup. It shows in the menu
[02:13] <witerain> if i clik one mp3 file.
[02:13] <jende> magicmike: happy now?
[02:13] <rawrness> it don't play?
[02:13] <witerain> it immediately go over.
[02:13] <BonBonTheJon> witerain: you need to install support for mp3s
[02:14] <jende> witerain: you may want to install libxine-extracodecs
[02:14] <witerain> how would i get it?.(sorry.im newbie)
[02:14] <rawrness> !w32codecs
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:14] <jende> !libxine-extracodecs
[02:14] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:14] <BonBonTheJon> witerain: install libxine-extracodecs
[02:14] <jende> witerain: so you have to modify your sources.list
[02:14] <magicmike> Not yet. Gotta check to see if I can play mp3's like I was earlier in Ubuntu. Think I'll need to install the extracodecs?
[02:14] <witerain> thnks..i will try right away..
[02:14] <witerain> hold on..
[02:14] <jende> magicmike: yes
[02:15] <jende> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:15] <jende> witerain: your sources.list needs definitely a modification
[02:15] <magicmike> I knew that. LOL
[02:16] <intelikey> peacekpr "correct" in your case is the one you want it to use,   we can hardly call that a fault in alsa.   suppose you had wanted it to use the first card it found.... it would have been function "correctly" already.     but at any rate glad you found it. :)
[02:16] <jende> witerain: do that: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:17] <jende> witerain: and then pastebin t
[02:17] <jende> !paste
[02:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:17] <peacekpr> intelikey, well ... this is half the battle.  it works in XMMS, but I want it to work by default for all sound-using applications
[02:17] <witerain> i am following..
[02:18] <intelikey> peacekpr i don't want to delve into it, but; there is also a way to tell linux to ignore the onborad card altogather.   /etc/modprob.d/  or something like that.
[02:18] <jende> witerain: have you opened the sources in kate?
[02:18] <witerain> yes,,but i cant see nothting
[02:18] <intelikey> blacklist it.
[02:19] <jende> witerain: close that!
[02:19] <witerain> i got it..
[02:19] <witerain> now i opened it
[02:19] <jende> witerain: okay
[02:19] <intelikey> nothing is awfully hard to see isn't it.
[02:20] <jende> witerain: now just paste it to pastebin
[02:20] <witerain> well..i dont know what should i add to it
[02:20] <jende> !paste
[02:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:20] <witerain> from where to where
[02:20] <witerain> all of it?
[02:20] <jende> witerain: you're not adding as yet anything, first just pastebin it
[02:20] <magicmike> Yo jende. You 'DA Man! I got mp3 jamming and I got evolution too. Thanks.
[02:21] <intelikey> peacekpr there is also a way to tell kde which card to call default    kcontrol  should help there
[02:21] <jende> witerain: sure, all of it.mark it say copy there open pastebin and paste it there
[02:21] <jende> magicmike: you're welcome
[02:21] <magicmike> I still don't have a printer and I don't have my cam or newsreader but that's a prob for a different day.
[02:22] <witerain> is pastbin command
[02:22] <jende> witerain: !pastebin
[02:22] <magicmike> Like the song says. Don't Worry, Be Happy.
[02:22] <jende> !pastebin
[02:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:22] <intelikey> left click highlight ... middle (both on two but mouse) click paste
[02:22] <peacekpr> intelikey, yeah... i've had kcontrol settings to ALSA with emu10k1 selected all along
[02:22] <magicmike> I appreciate you sticking around longer than you had planned.
[02:22] <jende> witerain:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:23] <peacekpr> i just wonder what made the system select the onboard audio card all of a sudden
[02:23] <jende> magicmike: thats okay
[02:24] <intelikey> peacekpr i couldn't say.  not my box.    logs might show what changed.  /etc/log/*
[02:25] <jende> witerain: done that?If so whats URL to have a look at it?
[02:25] <archangel_> anyone have an ipod?
[02:25] <peacekpr> i'm going to try a reboot just to see what happens
[02:25] <peacekpr> :)
[02:25] <peacekpr> brb
[02:26] <jende> witerain: ???
[02:26] <witerain> jende..i have open up the site you showed me..and it said just web..show i past something on there?
[02:27] <archangel_> anyone know how to exchange pics on an ipod?
[02:27] <jende> witerain: you should have quite leftish a box and above that it says Paste something
[02:28] <jende> witerain: in there paste the copied sources.list
[02:28] <jende> witerain: then say paste and it gives you the URL
[02:29] <jende> witerain: have that?
[02:31] <jende_> witerain: shouldn't take you that long
[02:31] <peacekpr> intelikey: revision of alsa.conf to use card 1 was successful
[02:31] <witerain> hoho....
[02:31] <peacekpr> just FYI
[02:31] <chill3r> u there jed
[02:32] <witerain> since i am such a supid...sorry..jende..
[02:32] <intelikey> peacekpr k i will make a note of that one.  thank you.
[02:32] <witerain> hold on...
[02:32] <witerain> actually..the thing i have to do is add something on my update list...,
[02:32] <witerain> name is source.list.
[02:33] <witerain> am i right>
[02:33] <jende_> witerain: didn't you say that you follow me?
[02:33] <mkara> hi all I am new here
[02:33] <jende_> witerain: thats wrong!
[02:33] <intelikey> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:33] <jende_> witerain: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:33] <witerain> yeah...i open up the source.list.
[02:34] <witerain> there is some what...list..
[02:34] <intelikey> :)
[02:34] <jende_> witerain: s o u r c e s .... not source
[02:35] <witerain> yeah.i know so i re open it..^^
[02:36] <witerain> waiting for command..
[02:36] <mkara> I have a "su" problem in Edgy rc1. It sometimes accepts the password but sometimes denies saying "failed su in KDE" or something like that
[02:37] <jende_> witerain: now you see a file with quite few lines ?
[02:37] <witerain> yes sir
[02:37] <Hawkwind> mkara: Have you tried #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel ?
[02:38] <mkara> No. I have come here bec I have Kubuntu Edgy rc1
[02:38] <jende_> witerain: ifine, so just mark the lot, say copy, open the pastebin and paste it in the box
[02:38] <intelikey> mkara also of note.  testing sudo is as simple as typing    sudo echo working!     in a konsole.
[02:39] <Hawkwind> mkara: #Ubuntu+1 is the Edgy channel for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.  This channel is really for Dapper support since Edgy isn't final yet
[02:39] <mkara> hmm. thanks for info.
[02:39] <witerain> so past http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in there?
[02:40] <mkara> later.
[02:40] <jende_> witerain: yes
[02:42] <jende_> witerain: whats the URL?
[02:43] <intelikey> don't rush him.    i expect the url in the next five minutes............
[02:43] <intelikey> :)
[02:43] <jende_> intelikey: time to grab me a coffee or so
[02:43] <intelikey> yeah.
[02:43] <jende_> intelikey: wanna have one, too
[02:44] <intelikey>  me to dcc you another wine ???  :)
[02:44] <jende_> yep
[02:44] <intelikey> lol
[02:45] <jende_> witerain: would you mind telling me, why it takes you ages to paste a file in a box and simpy post the URL in here?
[02:45] <jende_> witerain: its 2.45am
[02:46] <witerain> sorry...i am figureing....actully, i paste it to the box..
[02:46] <intelikey> i never did get how you guys could drink rodao beer.     but i don't care for the taste of it cold so hot is even less desireable to me.
[02:46] <witerain> it is nothgin but just copy........i dont know how to get the url..
[02:46] <witerain> it should have nbeen
[02:46] <witerain> sorry...
[02:47] <intelikey> witerain you get the url from the next page.
[02:47] <intelikey> when you post that copy the page will change and show you the url to give us.
[02:47] <jende_> witerain: you submit your paste by saying paste,which is that box below the textbox
[02:47] <witerain> is this like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27609/?
[02:48] <witerain> no?
[02:48] <jende_> witerain: veauty, thats what we need
[02:48] <jende_> witerain: beauty, thats what we need
[02:49] <witerain> u serious?
[02:49] <Lam_> 800 MHz / 256 MB.  XFCE or KDE?
[02:49] <intelikey> some times witerain.... some times.
[02:49] <intelikey> Lam_ anything you like.
[02:49] <intelikey> even gnome
[02:50] <Lam_> i like kde better than gnome
[02:50] <jende_> witerain: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27610/
[02:50] <Lam_> but it's more for my computer illiterate friend
[02:50] <intelikey> wasn't my point but, ok.
[02:50] <Lam_> i'll probably do KDE since it seems more like windows and would be less confusing
[02:50] <jende_> witerain: what you should do is that: print the modified sources.list
[02:50] <Lam_> thanks
[02:50] <intelikey> np
[02:51] <witerain> i copyed it
[02:51] <jende_> I hope that the sources.list, you've posted is still open in kate
[02:51] <jende_> witerain: N O!!!
[02:51] <witerain> sure
[02:51] <witerain> what no?
[02:51] <jende_> witerain: don't copy it
[02:52] <witerain> no i copy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27609/ to my soucrec.lst
[02:52] <jende_> witerain: you don't copy anything at all at this point
[02:52] <intelikey> jende_ i don't think..... ummm never mind now.
[02:52] <witerain> no?..
[02:52] <witerain> i take it bake
[02:52] <witerain> waiting
[02:53] <jende_> can you print he modified sources.list?
[02:53] <jende_> can you print the modified sources.list?
[02:54] <mkara> Hi again people.
[02:54] <witerain> can i ask....modified from where
[02:55] <mkara> Can someone please tell me if it is possible to connect to a wireless network via a usb adapter on Kubuntu? if so, how?
[02:55] <jende_> witerain: here is the modofied sources.list for you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27610/
[02:56] <witerain> oh..well..
[02:56] <witerain> so sould i past it to...
[02:56] <jende_> mkara: it is possibel, but make sure that you get a USB which is supported by Linux
[02:57] <jende_> witerain: I did say print it
[02:57] <jende_> witerain: I didn't say paste for a real good reason
[02:57] <mkara> it has no linux driver but they say it can be used with ndiswrapper
[02:57] <BonBonTheJon> mkara: I have had good luck with atheros chips
[02:57] <jende_> mkara: have fun
[02:57] <witerain> yes...
[02:58] <jende_> witerain: so just pprint it if its possible
[02:58] <jende_> mkara: you're with edgy?
[02:58] <mkara> yes
[02:59] <jende_> mkara: be careful with USB
[02:59] <mkara> but not right now bec I am not able to connect to internet on edgy
[02:59] <morphish> mkara: a wireless adapter to linux is just that, if usb, pcmcia or pci is not so much important as having the right driver, my bcm4318 in my amd64 laptop only works with ndiswrapper, just like any other wireless adapter, i just can't give you kubuntu specific answer
[02:59] <intelikey> i'd reject it just on general principal and be vocal about it.   "no! i won't buy your product. BECAAUSE YOU DON'T SUPPORT OPEN SOURCE!!!   GET IT ?"    and go find something that was supported.
[03:00] <intelikey> but that's just me.
[03:00] <mkara> :)
[03:00] <Ash-Fox> Ack, gam_server is taking 100% cpu, and killing it just restarts it
[03:00] <morphish> mkara: if you can exchange the usb wifi stick, the hawkings tech USB 54g stick worked for me both on ppc and armeb cpus, using the zd1211 driver, just a thought
[03:00] <jende_> we had in the last 48hrs several unsolveable issues in here with wlan chipsets; such as atheros and TI acx series
[03:01] <intelikey> marketers do get the clue-by-four up side the head, if you make it plain enough.
[03:01] <mike> http://guidetolinux.wetpaint.com/
[03:01] <jende_> morphish: on edgy?
[03:01] <mike> anyone here have lots of free time
[03:02] <jende_> all issues were with edgy NOT dapper
[03:02] <morphish> jende_: i run edgy for two days or so, i usually run source based distros, but didn't feel like dealing with compiling on a duron 1.3GHz, so sorry, no, i was commenting basically merely on drivver support in linux , especially since i recently saw the zd1211 pop up in the kernel sources
[03:02] <intelikey> mike.  yeah  but you wont get any of it.  that's why i have some.....  :)
[03:04] <jende_> morphish: have you made an apt-get update && dist-upgrade since? If not, my advice is:DON'T
[03:05] <mkara> Actually the adapter was working on Pardus ( a distro from Turkey ) with ndiswrapper but I couldnt use it bec It didnt support wpa-psk encription. is it supported on kubuntu dapper or edgy ?
[03:05] <jende_> mp
[03:05] <morphish> jende_: um, i have not, but this flashy thing in the systray i hae answered, not knowing the tools yet, i am afraid it is similar to what you just typed out, last night there were 323 packages, and today 45 or so, why, what did i break?
[03:05] <BonBonTheJon> mkara: what adapter is it
[03:05] <BonBonTheJon> mkara: what chipset
[03:05] <mkara> AirTies WUS200
[03:05] <LjL> jende_: why dist-upgrade bad?
[03:06] <intelikey> morphish if it didn't break anything, don't worry about it.
[03:06] <jende_> morphish: basically, there were some major changes which fdoving and I figured out today
[03:06] <morphish> that reminds me i had this cpi wifi adapter, works out of the box, i mean, module is loaded and eth1 is in both ifconfig and iwconfig
[03:07] <morphish> jende_: well i have not rebooted yet, is it something that affects booting? (X restarted fine, didn't see a need to reboot though)
[03:07] <jende_> thing is as long as the box runs, we discovered, everything is for some reasons still fine; once you reboot it some, basically most in here today had to downgrade to get there wifi back to live
[03:07] <BonBonTheJon> mkara: if you get ndiswrapper working, you can add support for wpa-psk
[03:08] <mkara> how?
[03:08] <morphish> jende_: oh, ok, good, i am not depending on wifi :)
[03:08] <BonBonTheJon> !wpa
[03:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:08] <mkara> I dont have internet connection on Kubuntu yet
[03:08] <morphish> i just slapped the adapter in in case i decide to go headless and put the box in the garage
[03:09] <jende_> morphish: some were and havent understood that edgy isn't yet in stable and were disappointed
[03:09] <mkara> :/topic #kubuntu
[03:09] <intelikey> hmmmm i have updates in dapper too.....    libksba8 xinit
[03:09] <mike> can somone help me write a linux wiki here: http://guidetolinux.wetpaint.com
[03:09] <intelikey> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:09] <intelikey> wonder if that will break xinit  or not.....
[03:10] <morphish> intelikey: time to find out!
[03:10] <jende_> intelikey: as much as I could observe today a upgrade/update on dapper is okay
[03:11] <mkara> Ok. I am going to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs . After reading it, I will come back here if I cannot solve the problem. Thanks a lot.
[03:12] <intelikey> jende_ k.   hehhe was kinka one of those   "i wonder what this button does  {click} <BOOM!>   oh that ! "    :)
[03:12] <intelikey> !wifi
[03:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:13] <jende_> mates, I'm going to have a bi of a nap now
[03:13] <ny0n> anyone in here good with freebsd?
[03:13] <BonBonTheJon> sweet dreams jende_
[03:13] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:13] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:14] <intelikey> well i got an "ok 2" on that script so it didn't break any package (or dpkg).
[03:17] <Mez> evening all
[03:17] <Mez> ny0n -> #freebsd
[03:18] <BonBonTheJon> hi Mez
[03:18] <Mez> is everybody having fun today? (and using katapult to make the fun quicker?)
[03:19] <LjL> hardly ever use katapult
[03:19] <Mez> LjL - :(
[03:21] <abattoir> Mez: katapult rocks ;)
[03:21] <Mez> abattoir, thankyou ;)
[03:22] <LjL> didn't say it doesn't. just said i don't use it.
[03:22] <Mez> LjL, I know - I read it that way - still a shame you dont use it... is there any reason you dont... ?
[03:23] <LjL> Mez: 1) the GUI programs i use the most are just a few, and i've got the Quick Launcher panel applet for that, which even automatically knows which programs i use the most 2) normally i have a console open
[03:24] <excitatory> i pretty much use katapult for kcalc.. heh..
[03:24] <Mez> 1) planned feature to remember what you use most and 2) yeah, same here, or at least yakuake sitting there
[03:24] <excitatory> i'm trying to remember it knows files too though.
[03:24] <Mez> excitatory, I mily use it for amarok ;)
[03:24] <Mez> I've never really used it for files (though I do like the new preview option I coded)
[03:24] <excitatory> amarok is ever-running on this box.
[03:24] <abattoir> Mez: katapult wasn't fixed to handle the new '.' in amarok? in edgy?
[03:25] <abattoir> Mez: in the path, that is
[03:25] <excitatory> well, i restart it after a new svn build.. but that's about it..
[03:25] <Mez> abattoir, it's a bit weird, works for some, doesnt for others... I'm fixing it atm actually
[03:25] <afex> heh all, is there anyway to replace the konqueror link on the panel to something else? (namely firefox)
[03:25] <abattoir> Mez: oh, so the fix won't get into edgy, right?
[03:26] <Mez> abbatoir, hopefully...
[03:27] <BonBonTheJon> afex: you can get rid of the konqueror link and put a firefox link
[03:27] <intelikey> hmmmm i just found out that i don't have anyway to close applications in my gui .....   ooops.
[03:28] <troy> argh! pity koffice packages are totally busted for amd64...
[03:28] <afex> BonBonTheJon: how do i go about doing that? thanks.
[03:28] <intelikey> i guess i can open an xterm and issue a killall on them.  but there should be a button....
[03:28] <BonBonTheJon> afex: you should be able to right click on it and do remove
[03:29] <afex> BonBonTheJon: awesome, found it.  thanks.  didn't realize there was a context menu there
[03:29] <BonBonTheJon> afex: then right click and you can add a link
[03:29] <Jucato> intelikey: Ctrl+Alt+Esc don't work?
[03:29] <intelikey> afex  kde== right click everything.
[03:29] <intelikey> Jucato no.  twm.
[03:30] <Jucato> aah...
[03:30] <intelikey> hey i can turn it on tho....
[03:30] <Jucato> :P
[03:30] <intelikey> Jucato ty that pointed the right dirrection.
[03:31] <jmichaelx> i added "/dev/hdb1    /media/linux ext3  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0" to the end of my /etc/fstab in an attempt to get my kubuntu hard drive to mount and show up in konqueror, but it doesn't work. could anyone tell me what i need to change?
[03:33] <intelikey> jmichaelx extfs doesn't do psiudo permissions
[03:33] <jmichaelx> ok, what should i change?
[03:33] <intelikey> i.e. umask and ext are mutually exclusive
[03:33] <jmichaelx> ahh
[03:33] <Jucato> intelikey: they are?
[03:33] <intelikey> man mount
[03:34] <jmichaelx> ok.... i should remove umask and probably change ext3 to ext2fs?
[03:35] <intelikey> umask is a dosfs thing.   msdos vfat ntfs   because there is no permissions bit on those file systems mount sets a vertual permissions bit.  the *mask.
[03:35] <Jucato> vfat, ntfs, and hfs to be exact
[03:35] <jmichaelx> how about those 2 zeros at the end?
[03:35] <intelikey> msdos also iirc
[03:36] <intelikey> floppy disks
[03:36] <jmichaelx> i am just trying to work around a bug in edgy... that being that /etc/fstab is not configured properly
[03:36] <intelikey> jmichaelx the two trailing goose eggs are needed.
[03:37] <Jucato> well msdos and fat have the same options, it seems
[03:37] <jmichaelx> ok ty
[03:37] <intelikey> Jucato yep
[03:38] <jmichaelx> ok, does "/dev/hdb1    /media/linux ext2fs  nls=utf8 0    0" look like something reasonable?
[03:39] <intelikey> Jucato for all practical purposes msdos fs is depreciated you can mount it as vfat every thing from fat12 through fat32 can be mounted vfat
[03:39] <afex> do i need to jump through any hoops to get audio working? the my system info detects both my onboard sound and sound blaster live! card but i'm not sure if there is anything else ineed to do
[03:40] <jmichaelx> nevermind, i think i have this figured out
[03:40] <Jucato> fat12? isn't that fat16?
[03:40] <intelikey> Jucato no.  fat12 fat16 fat16-e fat32
[03:40] <Jucato> aaah
[03:41] <federico_> hello, I need help
[03:41] <intelikey> Jucato it was 32m max size iirc.
[03:41] <federico_> what shoul I install xlg or 3ddesk?
[03:42] <intelikey> Jucato there was an fat8  hehhe prolly not in your life time tho  :)
[03:42] <Jucato> lol
[03:42] <federico_> ayudenme cono
[03:43] <BonBonTheJon> !xgl
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:43] <BonBonTheJon> federico_: ^^^
[03:43] <max0_> hi, how do you turn on the dropdown menu from the taskbars transparancy on in KDE
[03:44] <virtex> Hello everyone
[03:44] <BonBonTheJon> hi virtex
[03:44] <federico_> the thing is that it seems a little complicated to install it
[03:44] <intelikey> sorry i missed this. <jmichaelx> ok.... i should remove umask and probably change ext3 to ext2fs? <--- no if it is ext3 mount it as ext3   the alternative would be ext2 btw not ext2fs
[03:44] <federico_> I am a new linux user
[03:44] <jmichaelx> ty intelikey
[03:45] <BonBonTheJon> federico_: xgl is still in alpha, it might be a little too much work for a beginner
[03:45] <virtex> i got a two questions if someones not too busy, i'm also not in a huge hurry right at the moment
[03:45] <rawrness> I can sware a flash guide to setting up would be a great project
[03:45] <BonBonTheJon> virtex: just ask the question
[03:46] <intelikey> jmichaelx again if you want an individual to notice your posts, prepend their nick.  it gets attention.   *high lights*
[03:46] <max0_> BonBonTheJon: when does XGL come out of alpha? do you know
[03:46] <BonBonTheJon> federico_: if you want to try #ubuntu-xgl
[03:46] <BonBonTheJon> max0_: no, I don't use it, my graphics card isnt powerful enough
[03:46] <virtex> yea the usual... lol :) i downloaded some software from sourceforge, for converting video to psp format, but there appears to be no make command so the install.sh fails... any idea ?
[03:47] <max0_> does anyone know when XGL will come out of alpha?
[03:47] <intelikey> !b-e > virtex
[03:47] <federico_> ummm... so if it is complicated for me... should I try 3ddesk?
[03:47] <virtex> Thanks :)
[03:48] <BonBonTheJon> federico_: 3ddesk is a lot easier
[03:48] <peacekpr> intelikey: thanks again for the help
[03:48] <intelikey> virtex also of note.  you might want to check the repos for a deb package of the same    i.e.  apt-cache search blah
[03:49] <virtex> yea i haven't really found anything related to the psp at all for linux.
[03:49] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: what is the difference between 'apt-cache search blah' and 'dpkg -l | grep blah'
[03:49] <max0_> federico: http://www.freelists.org/archives/3ddesktop-dev/ the dev package for 3ddesk
[03:49] <intelikey> psp - Perl Server Pages - Web scripting environment runtime   ????
[03:50] <federico_> I download the package (3ddesk) and installed it, but when I try to launch it in the terminal...
[03:50] <federico_> 3ddesk
[03:50] <federico_> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[03:50] <federico_> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[03:50] <federico_> Server not found after waiting 5 seconds.
[03:50] <federico_> Could not find server.
[03:50] <federico_> Try starting manually (3ddeskd)
[03:50] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon compare the two and tell me.
[03:50] <virtex> video convertor for the psp.... PlayStation Portable ;)
[03:50] <Jucato> !pastebin
[03:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:50] <BonBonTheJon> federico_: you need to first do '3ddeskd'
[03:50] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: actually running "3ddesk" the first time would start 3ddeskd...
[03:51] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: do you know the difference, or are you wanting to knopw
[03:51] <Jucato> he needs to have 3d accelerated graphics card
[03:51] <Jucato> and the proper drivers for it
[03:51] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon yes
[03:51] <federico_> ok... so what should I do?
[03:52] <max0_> hi, how do you turn on the dropdown menu from the taskbars transparancy on in KDE
[03:52] <Jucato> federico_: what is your video card? did you install the binary drivers for it?
[03:53] <federico_> good question... is ATI a video card?
[03:53] <Jucato> federico_: yes
[03:53] <Jucato> !ati
[03:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <Jucato> federico_: ^^^^^^^^^^
[03:54] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: apt-cache '3ddesktop - "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher'
[03:54] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: dpkg 'rc  3ddesktop                              0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1                       "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher'
[03:54] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon example;  echo "`apt-cache search bash` *************************************** `dpkg -l | grep bash` " | less     but dpkg -l bash     would work too.
[03:54] <max0_> hi, how do you turn on the dropdown menu from the taskbars transparancy on in KDE
[03:54] <federico_> ok... give a few minutes to read it
[03:55] <BonBonTheJon> max0_: what do you mean, please rephrase
[03:55] <max0_> how do you run "3ddesktop" from knosole?
[03:55] <max0_> BonBonTheJon: transparency in the dropdown menu(k menu)
[03:56] <intelikey> this is linux,  there's not a "right" way to do things.  there is your way, my way, and other ways.  but none that is really above the others.  it's all in what you want and how you like to get there.
[03:56] <maziah> just downloaded kubuntu for m laptop, what a dream.. even the wireless works!
[03:56] <Jucato> max0_: I'm not sure it might be in System Settings > Appearance > Style (warning, I'm not 100% sure, I'm not on Linux right now..)
[03:57] <max0_> ha, ill try
[03:57] <BonBonTheJon> max0_: i confirm Jucato's tip
[03:57] <intelikey> linux began and has only grown from the desire for "another option"
[03:57] <max0_> do you knwo how to run 3ddesktop form a terminal?
[03:57] <BonBonTheJon> max0_: its on the effect tab
[03:57] <max0_> thanks BonBon
[03:57] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: I was right? wow
[03:57] <Jucato> O_O
[03:58] <max0_> and thanks Jucato for the tip
[03:58] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I just looked it up; you know more than you thought
[03:58] <Jucato> lol... residual memory :)
[03:58] <Jucato> darn I really need to get my PC back..
[03:58] <intelikey> Jucato face it.  you don't know all you know about kde.
[03:59] <max0_> haha
[03:59] <Jucato> intelikey: lol
[03:59] <intelikey> :)
[03:59] <maziah> who cares what he knows, u should worry about what you know!
[03:59] <max0_> intelikey is a smart guy, helped me out with some xorg issues
[03:59] <maziah> and if he knows more, good on him!
[03:59] <mkara> Hi. I am back with this from the wireless wiki: "If you are using WEP encryption the next box is to set the key type that's set up. Note that you can not set up WPA encryption in a gui enviroment as of Feb 2006 but it is being developed and will come in the future.". Is it still unsupported?
[04:00] <intelikey> maziah did i raddle your cage ?     didn't mean to....
[04:00] <Jucato> max0_: about 3D Desktop, you can start it even with Alt+F2. the command to start the daemon (which runs in the backround) is "3ddeskd". the command to get snapshots of the desktops is "3ddesk --acquire", and the command to activate it is "3ddek"
[04:00] <max0_> thanks
[04:00] <maziah> na i was just having a bite of the hotdog :D
[04:01] <Jucato> s/raddle/rattle ??
[04:01] <maziah> oh dude, lol
[04:04] <mkara> Any ideas about using wpa encription on kubuntu?
[04:05] <federico_> umm... I think I am going to wait for some friend of mine to help with the whole installation
[04:05] <maziah> bugga ias just att a page on writing ur ssl keys
[04:05] <maziah> for encryption
[04:05] <BonBonTheJon> mkara: I think it works, but I dont know how to set it up
[04:05] <maziah> tho i cant recall if it was wpa or wep
[04:05] <federico_> meanwhile I have some other question if you can kindly help me
[04:06] <Mez> federico_, go ahead and ask your questions - if we can answer them, we will
[04:06] <federico_> I have a notebook acer aspire 5102 that have incorporated a webcam
[04:07] <federico_> kubuntu is unable to recognize the webcam, and the drivers in the webpage of acer are all for windows
[04:07] <tony_> can someone help with my USB ports not working in Kubuntu?
[04:07] <maziah> my apt-get update doesnt seem to work, i have tried using the generated sources.list from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, nz and au ones
[04:08] <maziah> all seem to timeout
[04:08] <federico_> A friend of mine told me that he knows that the are some drivers emulators of windows for linux... do you any?
[04:08] <maziah> though my browser works fine when i go to the links in the address bar
[04:08] <Mez> tony_, what do you mean by "not working"
[04:09] <Mez> federico_, you mean to run windows programs on linux?
[04:09] <federico_> the windows drivers
[04:10] <Mez> drivers for your hardware?
[04:10] <federico_> as the matter of fact I have a problem with wine, cause I my notebook is amd64... do you what i couldo do with that?
[04:10] <tony_> Mez: I have a webcam plugged in and it doesnt see it. I was in here this morning and they had me run lusb and it didnt work.
[04:10] <afex> what are some fool-proof steps to getting video playback working?
[04:10] <jmichaelx> how many people have been asking how to install flash 9 beta the last day or so??
[04:11] <afex> kaffeine can tell how long a video file is, but wont play it
[04:11] <federico_> well I am not really sure how does it work
[04:13] <federico_> hahaha... I have the temptation to go back and use MS windows
[04:13] <starsky-hutchy> !windows
[04:13] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:14] <jmichaelx> !flash9
[04:14] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[04:14] <jmichaelx> sweet
[04:15] <mkara> !wpa
[04:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <noex> Anyone around?
[04:18] <max0> hi, where should i go for 3ddesktop help?
[04:18] <federico_> I am... but I dont know anythin!
[04:18] <starsky-hutchy> !xgl
[04:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:19] <noex> Starsku-hutchy: Hells yah.
[04:19] <noex> max0: XGL and Compiz are good places to start
[04:19] <starsky-hutchy> noex, :)
[04:19] <Jucato> max0: what's the problem?
[04:19] <noex> There is a pretty good tutorial for those to floating around also.
[04:21] <noex> Hey starsky, how long have you been using ubuntu?
[04:21] <ironcladlou> I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 RC from a clean text-based install (alternate disc). During install, it detected my PCMCIA Belkin Wireless G card as ath0. After install, however, the card has disappeared from KDE. Neither the control panel nor KNetworkManager can see it. Ideas?
[04:23] <morphish> anyone here using zope? or know of a light CMS for which there is a package for kubuntu?
[04:24] <max0> Jucarto: i start 3ddesk and i get this error http://pastebin.ca/212868
[04:24] <mando> !games
[04:24] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[04:25] <Jucato> max0: have you installed the binary driver for your video card?
[04:25] <mando> !acer
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <max0> no
[04:25] <mando> !wifi
[04:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:25] <Jucato> max0: you need that
[04:25] <max0> how?
[04:26] <ironcladlou> I should also mention: in Kubuntu 6.06, this card worked just fine with a stock install+KNetworkManager
[04:26] <Jucato> max0: what's your video card?
[04:27] <max0> intel i810
[04:27] <teledyn> anyone know what's up with menus?  i'm installing a lot of stuff and its not updating the menu
[04:27] <Jucato> max0: oh built-in?
[04:27] <max0> yes
[04:28] <Jucato> hm.. I don't think that would do. you need 3d hardware acceleration, afaik
[04:28] <max0> my card has that
[04:30] <CVirus> teledyn: kbuildsycoca
[04:30] <max0> how do i install the binary drivers
[04:30] <CVirus> _max_: there are no binary drivers for your card
[04:31] <CVirus> max0: ^
[04:31] <CVirus> max0: there is a kernel module already
[04:31] <CVirus> max0: glxinfo | greo direct
[04:31] <CVirus> max0: glxinfo | grep direct
[04:32] <max0> same error as in my pastebin http://pastebin.ca/212868
[04:33] <CVirus> lemem see
[04:33] <CVirus> lemme*
[04:34] <CVirus> max0: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[04:35] <Brydenn33> ok i need help finding a way to unRar .rar files
[04:35] <Brydenn33> what program should i use? or what's the best option?
[04:35] <max0> CVirus: http://pastebin.ca/212877
[04:35] <CVirus> !rar
[04:35] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:36] <CVirus> !unrar
[04:36] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:36] <CVirus> !info unrar-free
[04:36] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:36] <Jucato> CVirus: I think the unrar-free doesn't decompress the latest RAR versions?
[04:36] <CVirus> Jucato: no idea
[04:36] <Jucato> :)
[04:37] <CVirus> max0: do you have universe and multiverse repos. enabled ?
[04:37] <max0> whats that
[04:37] <CVirus> !universe
[04:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:37] <CVirus> max0: use that link
[04:39] <max0> what about repositories?
[04:39] <CVirus> max0: will you read the page ?
[04:39] <max0> its about repositories
[04:39] <max0> errr
[04:39] <max0> dapper
[04:39] <max0> i run edgy
[04:39] <CVirus> max0: how long have you been using Linux ?
[04:39] <max0> month?
[04:40] <CVirus> max0: and who the fuck told you to use Edgy ?
[04:40] <max0> me
[04:40] <Mez> CVirus, moderate your language
[04:40] <CVirus> Mez: sorry about that
[04:40] <Jucato> max0: then just substitute dapper references with edgy in that wiki...
[04:40] <Mez> CVirus, dont be sorry - just dont do it ;)
[04:40] <Jucato> lol
[04:41] <zorba64> Edgy requires permission to use??
[04:41] <max0> ok
[04:41] <Jucato> max0: you might be wondering why CVirus reacted that way. it's because Edgy (final release) hasn't been released yet. so you're usng something not 100% stable yet
[04:41] <Mez> zorba64, it's available, but it's in an unstable form atm
[04:42] <Jucato> it's stable for the most part, but until the final release, it's not recommended to use as a main system
[04:42] <Mez> zorba64 - nvm me
[04:42] <CVirus> Mez: its stable now
[04:42] <zorba64> i know i am using it...is max0 being a problem?
[04:42] <Jucato> well, we can't really give a "100% Stable" stamp of approval until it's final release...
[04:42] <max0> Jucarto: i know its not stable
[04:42] <Mez> zorba64, he's probably having a problem, not being one ;)
[04:42] <Jucato> but this is beyond max0's problem
[04:42] <max0> final is 26th this month
[04:42] <federico_> thank you all for the information!!!
[04:43] <federico_> see you later
[04:43] <max0> and no, no problems with edgy
[04:43] <max0> just some 3ddesktop problems
[04:43] <zorba64> the stable one isn't even stable...so...go figure
[04:43] <max0> there is no edgy stable
[04:43] <CVirus> zorba64: the stable isnt stable .. thats a good reason to use unstable
[04:43] <zorba64> am referring to dapper and the X stuff ups
[04:44] <max0> oh
[04:44] <Jucato> basically, max0's problem is a driver that would allow him to use 3d hardware acceleration of his IGP
[04:44] <zorba64> exactly...as stable is as stable gets
[04:44] <CVirus> max0: just enable the universe and multiverse repos. and install the packge I told you about
[04:44] <max0> doin it now
[04:45] <zorba64> nuthin much...just shooting the shit with no one in particular :)
[04:45] <Jucato> ok, just to stop the discussion, let's just say that on Oct. 26, Edgy wil be as stable as it can get, despite being edgy. ok?
[04:46] <zorba64> is max) a ati or nvidia man with probs?
[04:46] <intelikey> zorba64 hehhe i never ask an os to be more stabel than i am.... :)
[04:46] <zorba64> good point intelikey...no need to be too demanding
[04:46] <Jucato> zorba64: Intel IGP, which according to him has 3d acceleration
[04:47] <intelikey> have him lshw the thing and pastebin it.
[04:47] <zorba64> Jucato, welll...acording to intel anyway...plenty would probably disagree no doubt
[04:48] <zorba64> what driver would work with that beast anyway...out of curiosity
[04:48] <max0> can you send that link again?
[04:49] <max0> neverminf
[04:49] <max0> d
[04:49] <zorba64> max0...not paying attention again...to the back of the room with you
[04:49] <CVirus> zorba64: xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[04:49] <corey> hello all
[04:49] <max0> no, i had to restart
[04:49] <noex> Anyone have a moment to hit me up in a private message?
[04:50] <max0> and then i looked in my tray and the fox was still open with the restart
[04:50] <zorba64> ah that one...remember it well...(shudders theatrically)
[04:50] <max0> restart? i mean page
[04:51] <Mez> noex, ask out here... you're more than likely to find someone who can answer you
[04:51] <zorba64> noex, you trolling for something?
[04:51] <noex> Not trolling, just looking for some advise, new to having a full install of linux and looking for some advice. I have read the FAQ and most of the Ubuntu wiki.
[04:52] <Mez> zorba, I think the word you were looking for is "trawling" not trolling ;)
[04:52] <noex> Hah
[04:52] <Mez> noex, go ahead and ask out here :D
[04:52] <Mez> if you ask out here, other people lurking can learn, not just you ;)
[04:53] <intelikey> did i hear a lurk ?
[04:54] <noex> Well, I will just out myself, I am new to linux, in the desktop form. I just installed ubuntu and was curious if I need to download hardware specific drivers.
[04:54] <intelikey> noex depends,  what is not working for you ?
[04:54] <Jucato> "I will just out myself"... that sounds a bit... um.. strange... :)
[04:55] <noex> I only have a single peripheral device, which is my graphics card.. and I think I have that covered from the synaptic package manager (nvida drivers).
[04:55] <noex> Lol, yeh, well, it was a poor attempt at a joke:)
[04:55] <intelikey> !ati
[04:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:55] <intelikey> but if you don't need it don't mess with it.
[04:55] <noex> (Alreadu installed all that.. as I mentioned, I read the whole wiki and faq)
[04:56] <max0> CVirus: ok, there enabled
[04:56] <noex> My question is more focused on motherboard drivers.. any ideas there?
[04:56] <Jucato> noex: if you installed nvidia-glx already with no problems, then it's ok now
[04:56] <intelikey> noex like i said.  tell us what is not working like you want it to and maybe we can help.
[04:56] <noex> So for a new install, you fellows don't download drivers specifically for your motherboard or sound chips.
[04:56] <Mez> I've never understood the need for motherboard drivers
[04:57] <intelikey> noex no.
[04:57] <noex> Intelikey, everything is working, I am just asking if I should download something for even better performance.
[04:57] <noex> Ah, very cool.
[04:57] <Jucato> noex: not really, unless we need to. I download the NVIDIA driver though
[04:57] <noex> As I mentioned, still very used to Windows environment for desktop usage.
[04:57] <max0> CVirus: ok, there enabled
[04:57] <Mez> noex, the only thing I can possibly suggest is a kernel more specific to your compiler
[04:57] <BonBonTheJon> noex: you might want to get a kernel version appropriate for your processor
[04:57] <Jucato> noex: there are no "motherboard" drivers in Linux, afaik
[04:57] <Mez> s/compiler/processor/
[04:58] <noex> Yes, I have installed the nvidia drivers, nice difference.
[04:58] <Mez> BonBonTheJon, ha, beat ya!
[04:58] <intelikey> noex we (maybe i should speek for myself) i generally use "if it aint broke, don't fix it"  and go.
[04:58] <sacha_> noex, when you compile the kernel -- you should compile all relevant drivers there
[04:58] <sacha_> that's not related to desktop at all, should do that without desktop too
[04:58] <Jucato> Mez: actually, for edgy, there won't be need for processor specific kernels (except for 64-bt and PPC I think)
[04:58] <noex> Ah, cool deal, any good howto on doing that, I would like to read up.
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> sacha_: you don't need to compile the kernel
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> is there a way to check if my video card would be supported by the ati binary driver
[04:59] <sacha_> yeah by default it should have everything and you can compile modules if need be
[04:59] <Mez> Jucato... ?
[04:59] <noex> When I mention desktop, I am refering to the type of computer system, not the GUI (just for as a side note).
[04:59] <sacha_> since you are in the desktop right now, noex, you don't need anything else
[04:59] <sacha_> it already has all the standard drivers as modules or builtin
[04:59] <Jucato> Starting edgy, they wil roll out a generic kernel for 386 to k7 processors.
[04:59] <intelikey> noex you prolly wont gain any noticable advantage by guilding your own kernel...
[04:59] <intelikey> building
[05:00] <noex> Ah, thats good to know. I was probably going to hold off that anyhow.
[05:00] <max0> you here CVirus?
[05:00] <Mez> Jucato, er.. yet a kernel configured to your processor will still work
[05:00] <noex> I am going to get more filimiar with the system. Lucky I have a few years of SSH previous to my switch. :)
[05:00] <BonBonTheJon> has anyone updated dapper to edgy? any kinks?
[05:00] <Mez> -386 = generic kernel
[05:00] <max0> bonbon
[05:00] <max0> i did
[05:00] <Jucato> Mez: actually according to the devs, there's no difference, that's why they're rolling out a generic kernel
[05:00] <BonBonTheJon> max0: any problems
[05:01] <Jucato> something like linux-image-generic
[05:01] <max0> i dont have a link, i did it manually but it was really easy
[05:01] <max0> no no problems
[05:01] <sacha_> well i got my kernel from the 4MB generic down to 1MB and i have noticed much faster boot time
[05:01] <lunitik> BonBonTheJon: none for me
[05:01] <CVirus> max0: yes ?
[05:01] <megamasterx> hey all
[05:01] <BonBonTheJon> do I just change all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list
[05:01] <Jucato> Mez: of course if you compile a kernel, that might be a different case. I'm not familiar with it though
[05:01] <lunitik> Jucato: yes... this will be the default kernel though? they still have -386 -k7 etc...
[05:02] <enyawix> Mez nic driver ide sata chipset etc.
[05:02] <intelikey> sacha_ the kernel is only 1m by default.
[05:02] <max0> BonBon: yes then sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:02] <intelikey> you mean the initrd image no ?
[05:02] <noex> Any suggestions for a good media player (something that can handle streams and mp3s). I have been using Rhythmbox.
[05:02] <max0> CVirus: ok, there enabled
[05:02] <sacha_> i mean bzImage
[05:02] <Jucato> lunitik: I don't think so. maybe no more -k7 stuff
[05:02] <BonBonTheJon> max0: any ideas of what changed?
[05:02] <intelikey> hehhe sacha_ the generic *buntu kernels are ONE meg.
[05:02] <Mez> oh forget it
[05:02] <CVirus> max0: now sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[05:02] <lunitik> noex: Amarok > Rhythmbox  :)
[05:03] <sacha_> i dont use an initrd
[05:03] <max0> will do, brb
[05:03] <noex> Ah, thanks for the suggestion Lunitik, any particular reasons?
[05:03] <CVirus> !schedule
[05:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:03] <lunitik> Jucato: you just guessing? I still see -k7 as I stated
[05:03] <BonBonTheJon> lunitik: any ideas of what changed
[05:03] <Jucato> ah for edgy
[05:03] <Jucato> ok if you say so
[05:03] <max0> same error
[05:03] <lunitik> noex: Amarok is pretty much the best audio player full stop... theres not much it can't do with your music...
[05:04] <Hawkwind> lunitik: I disagree since that is *your* personal opinion actually
[05:04] <sacha_> im using Noatun :S
[05:04] <noex> lunitik: installing now :)
[05:04] <Mez> lunitik, and the newest verison is ever so uber (though confusing from upgrading from 1.3 and everything moving places)
[05:04] <intelikey> i use sox
[05:04] <lunitik> BonBonTheJon: Edgy feels like a point release rather than a huge release... they have upstart and oem installation stuff... thats about it of note though other than new versions
[05:05] <Jucato> lunitik: absolutely sure?
[05:05] <BonBonTheJon> !upstart
[05:05] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:05] <Hawkwind> lunitik: Much more than that in Edgy actually
[05:05] <Jucato> lunitik: have you seen the previous Beta/Knot release announcements?
[05:05] <lunitik> Jucato: I'm running Edgy... so about as sure as you can be...
[05:05] <max0> edgy took me a whle night
[05:05] <Hawkwind> lunitik: Then you might want to look again at your install.  There are lots of big changes
[05:07] <lunitik> Hmm... and -k7 depends -generic ... meh
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Imagine that
[05:07] <lunitik> Hawkwind: name some?
[05:07] <CVirus> !edgy
[05:07] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:08] <zorba64> someone in here with an identity crisis
[05:08] <Dr_willis> check out the edgy fstab, and grub configs for some interesging changes
[05:08] <Hawkwind> lunitik: #Ubuntu+1 and they will tell you all about Edgy since that is the Edgy channel
[05:11] <Mez> !fiery
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <Mez> !fiesty
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> !fawn
[05:11] <Jucato> Mez: I think it's "Feisty" :)
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fawn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <Hawkwind> It's not in the bot yet
[05:11] <lunitik> Feisty Fawn
[05:11] <BonBonTheJon> must be too new
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Under any spelling AFAIK
[05:12] <Jucato> yeah. well let's wait for Edgy to come out before adding it :P
[05:12] <Mez> !feisty is the codename for ubuntu 7.04
[05:12] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[05:12] <User_linux> how do I install via audio drivers????
[05:12] <Jucato> lol ok..
[05:13] <cellofellow> Is there a way to reorganize whole toolbars in firefox? I can't seem to get Google toolbar to go above the Bookmarks toolbar.
[05:14] <noex> lunitik: Should amaroK work directly after install? I can't seem to get the streams or mp3's to work on it.
[05:14] <noex> !amarok
[05:14] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[05:15] <BonBonTheJon> !mp3
[05:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <cellofellow> noex: I think u need the libxine-extracodecs package
[05:15] <MegaMasterX> !nvidia
[05:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:15] <MegaMasterX> :)
[05:15] <noex> I was able to stream using Rhythmbox, but cannot from amaroK, does that make sense?
[05:16] <cellofellow> yes
[05:16] <cellofellow> amarok uses xine and xine needs libxine-extracodecs
[05:16] <intelikey> Jucato remember the no quit button question?  i set up twm to allow ^@[esc]    and it works on apps that don't have a menu.  but for some reason apps with a menu ignore it.....  ;/
[05:16] <noex> Ah, ok. I will go grab up xine. Thanks cellofellow
[05:16] <Jucato> oh? that's strange then...
[05:16] <cellofellow> anyone know about firefox toolbars.
[05:16] <cellofellow> noex: it should be already there if you can play ogg files.
[05:17] <intelikey> jah /me tinks so....
[05:17] <MegaMasterX> !mono
[05:17] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.13.6-0ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[05:17] <MegaMasterX> It's not 1kb....
[05:17] <MegaMasterX> is it?
[05:17] <cellofellow> the only thing I use mono for is beagle
[05:17] <lunitik> noex: in both cases, its mp3 issues... and in both cases... install libxine-extracodecs from universe
[05:17] <zorba64> MegaMasterX: it will drag in what it needs...a "metapackage"
[05:17] <lunitik> noex: no such proprietary things will work without installing from multiverse (or in some cases elsewhere)
[05:18] <noex> Ah, makes sense.
[05:18] <intelikey> !mp3
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <noex> Thanks for the explaination.
[05:18] <intelikey> but you know that already, seeing that you have read the wiki
[05:18] <cellofellow> firefox toolbars?
[05:19] <MegaMasterX> !firefox
[05:19] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:19] <intelikey> cellofellow  swimncello?
[05:19] <cellofellow> well, its just I want to reorganize the toolbars, and not just the buttons on them.
[05:19] <cellofellow> intelikey: what???
[05:19] <intelikey> nm.
[05:20] <intelikey> mistook you for someone i know.
[05:20] <noex> Fixed it up, thanks alot guys!
[05:20] <noex> It's going to be much nicer to read all of these help guides to music :)
[05:21] <intelikey> sorry josh.   my bad.
[05:21] <noex> !5.1
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <noex> !sound
[05:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:21] <cellofellow> golly. you think your nick hides you but anyone can whois you and find your real name.
[05:21] <Jucato> cellofellow: don't put in you real name then
[05:21] <Jucato> :)
[05:22] <cellofellow> I can change that? wait, I remeber. there's a real name setting. yeah.
[05:22] <intelikey> if you want to hide. hide. it's simple enough.
[05:22] <cellofellow> now that you know, no worries.
[05:22] <Jucato> lol
[05:22] <intelikey> :)
[05:22] <t3hwiz0rd-server> i9 may have to reinstall my windows partition. if i do, grub will be overwritten, how can I reinstall it?
[05:23] <BonBonTheJon> !windows
[05:23] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:23] <BonBonTheJon> #grub
[05:23] <Jucato> !grub
[05:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:23] <Jucato> t3hwiz0rd-server: ^^^^
[05:23] <cellofellow> I installed sun java vm but firefox/swiftfox doesn't use it.
[05:23] <BonBonTheJon> i can't type
[05:23] <User_linux> how do I install via audio drivers????
[05:24] <Jucato> cellofellow: even after setting the default Java version to be used? (sudo update-alternatives)
[05:24] <cellofellow> Jucato: yes, I foolowed the wiki to the letter.
[05:24] <intelikey> man update-alternatives ?
[05:24] <Jucato> hm... you isntalled sun-java5-plugin right?
[05:24] <cellofellow> maybe.....
[05:24] <Jucato> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:25] <Jucato> cellofellow: "maybe" won't work :P
[05:25] <cellofellow> Jucato: did do the previous command. I thought that sun-java5-bin installed the plugin too.
[05:25] <Jucato> cellofellow: no
[05:26] <Jucato> intelikey: no spirit there. I exorcised it :P
[05:26] <intelikey> oh.
[05:26] <intelikey> Jucato maybe it changed it's nick and is now hiding   8*|
[05:26] <noex> Are XGL and Compiz resource hogs? Any huge preformace decrease?
[05:27] <Jucato> heh
[05:27] <noex> I would imagine so.
[05:27] <cellofellow> noex: they use more than xorg and kwin that's fur shur
[05:27] <Jucato> cellofellow: you probably didn't read hard enough :P "Java on Mozilla Firefox Ubuntu 6.06/Kubuntu 6.06 Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu (Ubuntu only), or install the sun-java5-plugin package."
[05:27] <cellofellow> Jucato: oops
[05:28] <Jucato> cellofellow: heh :P
[05:28] <noex> Well, I think I have successfully moved into my new system, music player, flash9, wine, and gaim.
[05:28] <sacha_> someone said they were gettign 300 FPS on Beryl with an Xsomething video card (ati)
[05:28] <noex> Glad to be away from Windows before Vista comes out and annoys the piss out of me.
[05:28] <cellofellow> I read the requirements for flash9, and my decent system doesn't match. I wasn't happy.
[05:28] <User_linux> how do I install via audio drivers????
[05:29] <cellofellow> noex: xgl might annoy you too y'know.
[05:29] <intelikey> User_linux modprobe
[05:29] <zorba64> noex: and it is bloody annoying too
[05:29] <sacha_> xgl doesn't annoy me :P
[05:29] <sacha_> shift+backspace in beryl annoys me though
[05:29] <cellofellow> oh, well. I'm not going to try XGL with a TNT2 GPU
[05:29] <noex> cellowfellow: hah, I didn't read them sadly, anything interesting? It works quiet well for me. Before hitting up IRC I was watching LOST on abc.com
[05:30] <sacha_> why not cello? apparently it runs fine
[05:30] <noex> Do you guys run XGL?
[05:30] <cellofellow> sacha_: really? I'd have thought that SGL needed at least a GeForce of some kind.
[05:30] <zorba64> nup...tried it...nausea...pass me the bucket
[05:30] <lunitik> noex: do you have a specific question?
[05:30] <cellofellow> XGL
[05:30] <noex> Well, Vista annoys me because of the UA not because of the graphics or anything.
[05:31] <sacha_> apparently runs really well.. even on old videocards
[05:31] <lunitik> noex: you mean UI?
[05:31] <cellofellow> noex: the flash9 requierements I say said 128 video and 512 memory. Mine doesn't match.
[05:31] <noex> User Agreement.
[05:31] <zorba64> and that it requires "authorisation" for everything
[05:31] <intelikey> EULA
[05:31] <noex> You got it.
[05:31] <sacha_> he means the privilege pop ups
[05:31] <cellofellow> I've never actually agreed to an enforced M$ EULA
[05:32] <intelikey> enough reason for the whole world to refuse to use it.....
[05:32] <sacha_> hes not talking about the EULA
[05:32] <User_linux> i installed XGL using Add / remove programs, where is it now???
[05:32] <noex> Well, I am talking about hte EULA, as well as the terms of use.
[05:32] <cellofellow> sacha_: you really think XGL will run on a RIVA TNT2 16MB?
[05:32] <sacha_> hmm 16MB, worth a try
[05:32] <lunitik> User_linux: dpkg -L xserver-xgl | grep bin ...
[05:33] <noex> It just seems too intrusive to be ok with.
[05:33] <sacha_> i thought tnt2 would be 32mb
[05:33] <cellofellow> sacha_: and Vista Aero needs like 128MB. ha ha!
[05:33] <zorba64> whole this is a bit of a laff...like previous editions
[05:33] <sacha_> yes
[05:33] <jahallmighty> xgl
[05:33] <cellofellow> sacha_: for some reason mine's a 16.
[05:33] <User_linux> how do I enable xgl?
[05:33] <noex> !xgl
[05:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:34] <noex> Quiet a nice IRC Bot, btw.
[05:34] <cellofellow> User_linux: try the ubuntu-xgl channel then
[05:34] <zorba64> helpful chap
[05:34] <noex> Indeed. Pip Pip!
[05:34] <intelikey> !botsnack
[05:34] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:34] <noex> Haha
[05:34] <noex> Very nice feature.
[05:35] <zorba64> huzzah huzzah
[05:35] <cellofellow> grrrrr. I installed the sun java plugin and it installed firefox with it. I installed all of firefox's depends to use swiftfox, but got away with not haveing th actual binaries.
[05:36] <lunitik> !sacrifice zorba64
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sacrifice zorba64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <lunitik> No fun  :(
[05:37] <intelikey> cellofellow welcome to "dpkg"
[05:37] <zorba64> charming chap aren't you
[05:37] <cellofellow> intelikey: yeah, if only swiftfox were in the repos.
[05:37] <lunitik> zorba64: shush, its just a fun "feature" of most bloot bots  :/
[05:38] <Eroick> is there an easy way to check MD5 sums from windows without cygwin?
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Eroick: fsum
[05:38] <zorba64> np old son...figured you was joshing wiv me
[05:38] <Hawkwind> Eroick: To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[05:38] <jahallmighty> who of you knows to install a progra
[05:38] <Hawkwind> jahallmighty: sudo apt-get install <package>
[05:38] <jahallmighty> it is that i am new in this
[05:38] <zorba64> everybody does
[05:39] <User_linux> my audio driver is disabled, how do I rollback to ubuntu default audio driver?
[05:39] <Jucato> !install
[05:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:39] <ubahmapk> Eroick: http://www.google.com/search?q=md5sum+windows first entry does it
[05:39] <Jucato> er...
[05:39] <grayeul> Anyone over here know what it takes to make the /dev/eth1 device appear when wireless drivers are loaded?
[05:39] <cellofellow> what is the default? alsa? oss?
[05:39] <intelikey> alsa
[05:39] <Jucato> jahallmighty: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[05:40] <intelikey> oss is depreciated
[05:40] <User_linux> dont know, my audio device suddely turned off
[05:40] <cellofellow> intelikey: don't people still use oss?
[05:40] <intelikey> yes
[05:40] <intelikey> your point ?
[05:40] <cellofellow> no point, just a question.
[05:40] <noex> !audio
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <zorba64> jahallmighty: maybe you should ask specifically...more than one way to skin a cat or install a package
[05:41] <cellofellow> !alsa
[05:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:41] <ubahmapk> people still use Windows, too, but it's been obsolete for years! :-D
[05:41] <intelikey> !sound
[05:41] <intelikey> same infonode
[05:41] <zorba64> very droll ubahmapk
[05:41] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: true
[05:41] <ubahmapk> zorba64: sorry, couldn't help it :-)
[05:41] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: no, it was really funny.
[05:41] <noex> Anyone have a good resource for setting up 5.1 sound?
[05:42] <zorba64> understand perfectly old son...apologies not necessary
[05:42] <intelikey> i absolved of the obsolete absolutely.
[05:42] <cellofellow> doesn't alsa have an advanced curses based config program?
[05:42] <intelikey> :)
[05:42] <sacha_> alsamixer
[05:42] <cellofellow> noex try that maybe
[05:43] <jahallmighty> zorba64 grase
[05:43] <zorba64> will ubahmapk return safely...stay tuned...film at 11
[05:43] <cellofellow> zorba64: lol
[05:43] <intelikey> two packages that expand alsa that you might look at.
[05:43] <intelikey> alsa-tools - Console based ALSA utilities for specific hardware
[05:43] <intelikey> alsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware
[05:43] <noex> Cool, thanks guys
[05:44] <cellofellow> so, when it's finally released, how do I upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[05:45] <zorba64> cellofellow: a number of ways...
[05:45] <noex> Well, I am out for the night. Thanks alot guys, you all have been a great help. Be back tommorrow.
[05:45] <cellofellow> easiest? most proper?
[05:45] <cellofellow> cleanest?
[05:45] <intelikey> cellofellow you edit your sources.list and do two commands
[05:45] <BonBonTheJon> cellofellow: in your sources.list, change all dapper's to edgy's
[05:46] <lunitik> cellofellow: change cases of 'dapper' to 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[05:46] <cellofellow> intelikey: does it boil down to changing papper to edgy?
[05:46] <cellofellow> oops
[05:46] <zorba64> cellofellow: mmm...well i did the download and burn iso and fresh install since i have home seperate
[05:46] <Jucato> cellofellow: yes. dapper to edgy
[05:46] <cellofellow> ok, sounds easy enough. will any apps or settings get changed or broken?
[05:46] <Jucato> cellofellow: of course if you have other 3rd party repos, and if you installed some stuff from those, they might cause some problems
[05:47] <zorba64> you can go that way....may need to be forcefull with apt if it doesn't play nice
[05:47] <lunitik> cellofellow: changed? yes... broken? unlikely
[05:47] <cellofellow> no 3rd parties.
[05:47] <cellofellow> lunitik: ok
[05:47] <Brydenn33> hey, anyone in here have strong C++ skillz or have wine 0.9.9 installed?
[05:47] <intelikey> papper prake to nervous salamander yeah.
[05:47] <Brydenn33> need some help with it
[05:47] <Jucato> cellofellow: well if you have a very clean system, you have nothing to fear
[05:48] <cellofellow> Jucato: just nvidia and sun and swiftfox are sort of out of the main or universe
[05:48] <cellofellow> outside of
[05:48] <zorba64> go learn more about apt while you are waiting for the upgrade
[05:48] <Jucato> cellofellow: well nvidia-glx and sun are in multiverse. swiftfox, I'm not sure how it will affect the upgrade
[05:49] <ubahmapk> success! :-)
[05:49] <cellofellow> Jucato: swiftfox is built kind of generically for Sid and ubuntu, so it should be fine.
[05:49] <zorba64> remove swiftfox before you do
[05:49] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: sweet!
[05:49] <cellofellow> zorba64: ok
[05:49] <Jucato> cellofellow: probably. we still can't be 100% sure :)
[05:49] <intelikey> hmm got a universe a multiverse and now an adverse.....
[05:49] <zorba64> if it ain't in the ubuntu repos then would be safer to remove it prior
[05:49] <zorba64> adverse??
[05:50] <cellofellow> let's see.. swiftfox, picasa, w32codecs. that's it.
[05:50] <intelikey> broken repo  :)
[05:50] <zorba64> ubahmapk: you are alive...a miracle forsooth
[05:50] <cellofellow> forgot about picasa.
[05:50] <ubahmapk> cellofellow: I was a bit concerned since adept errored out on me a few times, but then the trusty konsole fixed everything
[05:50] <ubahmapk> zorba64: miracles never cease
[05:50] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: for anything like that I aint touching adept.
[05:51] <Eroick> damn
[05:51] <zorba64> ubahmapk: did you perform sacrifice to uboto god beforehand ?
[05:51] <Eroick> bootstrap failed,corrupt package.
[05:51] <ubahmapk> cellofellow: and from this point forward, neither am I
[05:51] <Eroick> CD is corrupt
[05:51] <ubahmapk> though it's nice for simple installs when you can't remember the name of the package :-)
[05:51] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: adepts ok for some apps, but tought stuff like that it sucks.
[05:51] <ubahmapk> cellofellow: yup
[05:51] <ubahmapk> so I discovered tonight
[05:51] <zorba64> adept is still a bit young
[05:52] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: when I'm just browsing around for a program I find myself using Add/Remove Programs. adept-installer
[05:52] <ubahmapk> hadn't tried those yet
[05:52] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: same thing
[05:52] <zorba64> apt-cache search works for me
[05:52] <ubahmapk> I also like the update notices in the systray from adept
[05:53] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: adept installer is launched by the add/remove programs button
[05:53] <ubahmapk> I have used apt-cache and it is nice
[05:53] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: yeah, thos are good.
[05:53] <ubahmapk> cellofellow: hadn't tried add/remove -- reminds me too much of windows
[05:53] <ubahmapk> I know it's just the name, but...
[05:53] <sacha_> lol
[05:53] <sacha_> thats what i was thinking
[05:53] <cellofellow> ubahmapk: the name does, but I never could add any prgrams with windows add/remove programs.
[05:54] <zorba64> yeah...i removed it from the menu/renamed it to adept
[05:54] <sacha_> hah, true
[05:54] <ubahmapk> zorba64: now there's an idea!
[05:54] <sacha_> remove add/remove programs from add/remove programs?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> I thought the add/remove was a limited-adept-lite thing. :)
[05:54] <lunitik> These names are chosen just for that reason... users that are switching from the most popular desktop OS know what it is by looking at the name
[05:54] <cellofellow> i think the name is sort of newb-oriented. actually, the whole program is.
[05:54] <zorba64> like system setting...changed it to kcontrol
[05:54] <ubahmapk> lunitik: you're right.  And that's fine
[05:54] <ubahmapk> I've run linux for some time, just not debian/ubuntu
[05:55] <cellofellow> zorba64: trouble is system settings isnt't kcontrol
[05:55] <jahallmighty> 
[05:55] <jahallmighty> who of you says me as she builds the framework for another porfabor computer is that I want to learn single I have 16 of age
[05:55] <zorba64> nope...but close enough for me
[05:56] <intelikey> zorba64 i use apt all the time.  but i have scripts for everything.   q    is   apt-cache search $*    s = apt-cache show $*      being lazy is so hard in a console.... you have to script everything.......   :)
[05:56] <ubahmapk> intelikey: or use 'alias'
[05:56] <sacha_> i use prt
[05:57] <zorba64> hah...showoff...:)
[05:57] <intelikey> ubahmapk that's just moving the script to a central location....
[05:57] <ubahmapk> intelikey: yup.  and? :-)
[05:57] <sacha_> prt-get depinst --installscripts $*   is good for an alias
[05:57] <jahallmighty> 
[05:57] <zorba64> more identity crises
[05:57] <jahallmighty> it tell me dr_willis
[05:57] <sacha_> --install-scripts*
[05:57] <intelikey> ah.... was i trying to say something...... ?
[05:58] <ubahmapk> no idea
[05:58] <intelikey> never mind.
[05:58] <ubahmapk> I never know if I am, either :-)
[05:58] <intelikey> :
[06:00] <intelikey> sacha_ prt-get ?
[06:00] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I'm having some trouble with my networking. I'm connected to the network, but I can't get to zeroconf:/
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:00] <sacha_> yes :D
[06:00] <ubahmapk> Ok, showing my ignorance of apt again: why have 44 packages been 'kept back' after my upgrade to eft?
[06:00] <jahallmighty> digame porfavor like estrar to another computer
[06:01] <Digital_Pioneer> Error message is: "The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running."
[06:01] <sacha_> prt-get depinst --install-scripts $*  downloads source code of each dependancy and the package itself, configures and compiles and then installs each dependancy and package itself :)
[06:01] <ubahmapk> sacha_: sounds like gentoo :-) (which I used for some time and really liked - it was just tough on a workstation.  Still great for servers, though.)
[06:01] <sacha_> using CRUX
[06:02] <intelikey> modem resets  are detestable.
[06:02] <MegaMasterX> !tar
[06:02] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:03] <MegaMasterX> !XServer
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XServer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <MegaMasterX> !X Server
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about X Server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <jda> anybody know a good how to   to install an ATi vid card in dapper
[06:03] <intelikey> tar x file
[06:03] <MegaMasterX> !X
[06:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <intelikey> !ati > jda
[06:05] <cellofellow> why's ubotu say to use that crazy init.d command when ctrl+alt+backspace works just fine?
[06:05] <MegaMasterX> i have no clue.
[06:05] <intelikey> cellofellow cause while it works it's not clean.
[06:05] <cellofellow> oh, never mind, I see. It's for when you want to restart all the x.
[06:05] <MegaMasterX> :)
[06:05] <cellofellow> that too.
[06:05] <sacha_> killall -q kdm  .. yeah not very clean
[06:06] <MegaMasterX> agreed
[06:06] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, can someone tell me where to go for network support?...
[06:06] <MegaMasterX> is Konsole an console emulation?
[06:06] <MegaMasterX> !network
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <lunitik> cellofellow: ctrl+alt+backspace only works if X is accepting keystrokes... ctrl+alt+f1 will work in most cases however, except for a hard crash
[06:06] <sacha_> digital_pioneer what kind of network issue?
[06:06] <ubahmapk> !apt
[06:06] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:06] <cellofellow> !konsole > MegaMasterX
[06:07] <Digital_Pioneer> sacha_, I'm trying to get a network going between two Kubuntu systems.
[06:07] <MegaMasterX> Woah thats cool.
[06:07] <cellofellow> lunitik: I've had some hard X freezes where the only thing that worked was SSH.
[06:07] <sacha_> share files with samba? or.. ?
[06:07] <Digital_Pioneer> sacha_, Wireless. If I open zeroconf:/, it says the Zeroconf daemon isn't running.
[06:07] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: I think zeroconf is easiest.
[06:07] <Digital_Pioneer> (mdnsd)
[06:07] <sacha_> ahh wireless.. wireless scares me, sorry :P i had to use windows drivers to get my wireless card even working :(
[06:07] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, Sweet. How do I get mdnsd running?
[06:07] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: that's zeroconf
[06:07] <lunitik> cellofellow: and in that case... still /etc/init.d/gdm restart would likely work...  :)
[06:08] <Digital_Pioneer> sacha_, I know the feeling. I'm using Ndiswrapper right now.
[06:08] <intelikey> MegaMasterX konsole is a terminal emulator      the console is a real terminal        errr maybe i should say a real 'virtual terminal'   not that i actually know the diff.
[06:08] <cellofellow> lunitik: I'm using kubuntu thankyou. I have no gdm
[06:08] <grayeul> Is there a command to show which package a file is part of?
[06:08] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, Yeah, I know, but how do I start it?
[06:08] <MegaMasterX> Oh....So it is an emulation.
[06:08] <MegaMasterX> ok.
[06:08] <lunitik> cellofellow: eh... kdm  :/
[06:08] <intelikey> grayeul apt-file
[06:09] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: um, did you install avahi-deamon or whatever it is?
[06:09] <cellofellow> !avahi
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <cellofellow> !zeroconf
[06:09] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:09] <grayeul> intelikey: thanks... checking something...
[06:09] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: I got it going once. required some avahi package try that.
[06:09] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, OK, I'm installing it.
[06:10] <intelikey> grayeul if you like cli; grep /path/to/file /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[06:10] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, Sweet. What now...?
[06:10] <intelikey> assuming the file was installed from a .deb
[06:10] <Digital_Pioneer> Zeroconf:/ opens without error, but it's empty.
[06:11] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: if the deamon is running, the just go to zeroconf:/ in konqueror. you won't see anything, but if you get no errors it's working
[06:11] <grayeul> intelikey: Hmm... apt-file not found, other: too long list for args
[06:11] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: so, know right click the panel and click add applet or whatever it is.
[06:11] <intelikey> ?
[06:12] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: install the personal file server, it uses zerconf.
[06:12] <intelikey> grayeul; grep /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[06:12] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: just to test it.
[06:12] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, Know a package name?
[06:12] <intelikey> well add -e then
[06:12] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: rather add the already installed server to the panel.
[06:12] <intelikey> grayeul; grep -e /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[06:12] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: that's how you use it.
[06:12] <grayeul> intelikey: got the grep to work, by cd'ing to /var/lib/dpkg/info... otherwise too many chars
[06:13] <intelikey> grayeul na just needed -e
[06:13] <grayeul> so, why don't I have apt-file?  Or is it in someplace funny?
[06:14] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: once the applet's on the panel right click it and add a new server. it should try to publish the server to zeroconf when it's done, and then it should be in the zeroconf:/ kioslave
[06:14] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, So for me to get an area where I can put files accessible to multiple computers on the same network, of the same OS, I need a file server...?
[06:14] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: this just tests if zeroconf is working. it's a read only server. you may need something else for use.
[06:14] <grayeul> anyone here using ipw3945 wireless driver?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> I got a old box thats a dedicated fileserver. :)
[06:14] <intelikey> grayeul it's not installed by default
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I dont even know what zeroconf is supposed to do.
[06:15] <grayeul> inteliky: Ah... just did a new install (and am new to kubuntu) of EdgyRC
[06:15] <intelikey> apt-file - APT package searching utility -- command-line interface
[06:15] <cellofellow> brb
[06:16] <grayeul> intelikey: So, when I get network up on that machine... to get apt-file, do: apt-get apt-file ?
[06:17] <intelikey> yeah  apt-get install apt-file    and then you have to update apt-file.  it has to grab a database.
[06:17] <Digital_Pioneer> cellofellow, OK, Zeroconf is working.
[06:17] <grayeul> you wouldn't happen to be using ipw3945, would you?
[06:17] <intelikey> after that. it kinda works.   but i prefer just greping the info files.
[06:18] <grayeul> good to know....
[06:18] <intelikey> me using.. no.
[06:18] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: now you boldly go where I have not gone before.
[06:18] <grayeul> intelikey: Ok, similar question: If I am looking for a file, but don't have it -- how do I find which package has it?
[06:18] <intelikey> i'm network illiterate. and quite content to remain that way.
[06:19] <intelikey> apt-file
[06:19] <cellofellow> yippee. java plugin working
[06:19] <grayeul> intelikey: Same thing?  apt-file will tell me about it, whether it is installed or not?
[06:20] <I_Eat_Plastic> Uhh, I turn 18 in 40 minutes.
[06:20] <intelikey> that's why it needs the database.  yes
[06:20] <ubahmapk> I_Eat_Plastic: Happy B-Day
[06:20] <I_Eat_Plastic> ubahmapk: Thank you!
[06:20] <flaccid_> turning on 18 and is on irc
[06:20] <flaccid_> should be out taking drugs..
[06:20] <grayeul> I_Eat_Plastic: Happy birthday... my birthday is over in 40 minutes... just turned 47!
[06:21] <Digital_Pioneer> flaccid_, I'm 14 and I'm on IRC. What should I be doing?'
[06:21] <ubahmapk> grayeul: and Happy B-Day to you, too! :-)
[06:21] <flaccid_> Digital_Pioneer: stealing cars and smoking crack
[06:21] <ubahmapk> my un-birthday ends in 40 minutes...but then I have another one....
[06:21] <I_Eat_Plastic> grayeul: Congradtulations.
[06:21] <Digital_Pioneer> flaccid_, Not recommened.
[06:21] <rcarr> my birthday is in approximately 430 thousand minutes
[06:21] <cellofellow> mee too
[06:21] <flaccid_> hehe
[06:21] <intelikey> grayeul oh you're an old fart.    couple years older than me.
[06:22] <grayeul> intelikey: And I've been playing with Unix for about 25 years
[06:22] <rcarr> flaccid: I probably completely lose then
[06:22] <cellofellow> I only heard about it about a year ago
[06:22] <Digital_Pioneer> Anyone out there know how to get networking going?
[06:22] <cellofellow> except on Jurassic Park
[06:22] <grayeul> Speaking of networking......
[06:23] <flaccid_> Digital_Pioneer: system settings | networking
[06:23] <sacha_> it was on jurassic park?
[06:23] <Digital_Pioneer> I need to get some sort of file sharing between two Kubuntu boxes on the same network.
[06:23] <zorba64> oh..so over 40 is a old fart...bunch of young .....
[06:23] <rcarr> flaccid: I'm 15, in IRC, and working on Real Analysis homework
[06:23] <intelikey> grayeul i've yet to handle a unix box.  or solaris   but linux.....   well...
[06:23] <rcarr> I basically completely lose at having a life
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  dozen ways to do that.. ssh and the fish:\\ kioslave for konqueror is handy
[06:23] <rcarr> woo!
[06:23] <cellofellow> sacha_: that little girl sits down at the main computer, and says it's a unix system and she know how to use it.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  or use samba.. or scp.
[06:23] <flaccid_> i think people are missing my point. wouldn't you be out with your friends on your 18th birthday
[06:23] <sacha_> oh ok
[06:23] <rcarr> I like the fish:// kiioslave for konqueror
[06:24] <ubahmapk> or fish:// that's good, too :-)
[06:24] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis, Isn't Samba used for networking with Windoze?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> i sort of like the various FUSE filesystem things.
[06:24] <cellofellow> rcarr: me too
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  it can be used for that.
[06:24] <rcarr> I normally use cli for file management, but when you have a lot of files
[06:24] <rcarr> without a common naming pattern
[06:24] <ubahmapk> rcarr: then you use mc
[06:24] <Dr_willis> mc is handy :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> one of the frst things i install
[06:24] <cellofellow> Digital_Pioneer: that's what it's designed for yes. NFS is more unixy.
[06:25] <rcarr> I never bothered much with MC
[06:25] <ubahmapk> Dr_willis: ssh and then vim
[06:25] <rcarr> worth it?
[06:25] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: yeah, mc is handy when logged in over ssh
[06:25] <Dr_willis> ive had issues with using mc and screen together however.
[06:26] <Digital_Pioneer> So I _CAN_ use Samba to connect with other Linuxes?
[06:26] <ubahmapk> Dr_willis: really? that's interesting.  what sort of issues?
[06:26] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: konsole has an mc mode.
[06:26] <intelikey> flaccid_ this is irc where men are men.......
[06:26] <ubahmapk> Digital_Pioneer: sure
[06:26] <rcarr> my general file management strategy consists of perl one liners and yakuake
[06:26] <flaccid_> sounds a bit like that recent cowboy movie
[06:26] <Digital_Pioneer> ubahmapk, OK. Care to elaborate, or should I pay #samba a visit?
[06:26] <rcarr> flaccid: The cowboy movie about perl one liners and yakuake?
[06:27] <intelikey> i'm not familear with it
[06:27] <rcarr> flaccid: I saw that one!
[06:27] <flaccid_> no brokeback mountain
[06:27] <Dr_willis> ubahmapk,  the font/characters for the lines dont draw right..
[06:27] <intelikey> never heard of it.
[06:27] <ubahmapk> Digital_Pioneer: #samba's probably a better choice.  I've done it, but it's been a while.......
[06:27] <Digital_Pioneer> ubahmapk, OK.
[06:27] <ubahmapk> Digital_Pioneer: so sorry... :-(
[06:27] <intelikey> stallman who ?
[06:28] <ubahmapk> Dr_willis: interesting. sad.  screen's so useful
[06:28] <Digital_Pioneer> ubahmapk, That's all right. Thanks for your time.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> ubahmapk,  yea.. but it may be some term setting.. not  looked into it much closer.
[06:28] <ubahmapk> Dr_willis: ah
[06:29] <Dr_willis> im not sure screen has even had any updates in ages. :)
[06:29] <intelikey> ubahmapk "screen's so useful" if you want to eves drop on a cli user....
[06:29] <dude> hello guys...good day...
[06:29] <ubahmapk> intelikey: that's probably true, but it's also useful to leave work and come back home to the same session you had at work. :-)
[06:29] <intelikey> it's dude!
[06:30] <rcarr> Dude, once again I am in envy of your name
[06:30] <ubahmapk> for the life of me, I see 44 packages that are 'upgradable', but are 'kept back' no matter what method I try and upgrade them.  Where do I go to see why they're being held back?
[06:30] <rcarr> Way to take a stand as an individual! :p
[06:30] <rcarr> (playful sarcasm)
[06:30] <dude> rcarr; why?
[06:30] <ubahmapk> dude: that is a cool nick
[06:30] <max0> hi, can someone help me with Wine, i type in "wine <filename>" and i get this errot http://pastebin.ca/212999
[06:30] <rcarr> Haha
[06:31] <ubahmapk> max0: hmmm....that almost looks like a user perm problem.
[06:31] <ubahmapk> max0: running as mortal and running wine as root??
[06:31] <max0> im running as root
[06:31] <dude> ubahmapk: tnx
[06:31] <zorba64> max0 is being bad
[06:32] <intelikey> max0 you running that from a console ?
[06:32] <max0> how else is there to run it?
[06:32] <intelikey> terminal
[06:32] <max0> zorba64:how am i being bad?
[06:32] <rcarr> max0, he is referring to
[06:32] <intelikey> inside of X   you know.
[06:32] <rcarr> a tty, compared to an xterm
[06:32] <zorba64> runnung as root..thats a no no :)
[06:32] <ubahmapk> max0: running X as root is generally considered not a good idea
[06:33] <max0> im not running X as root
[06:33] <max0> im in a user
[06:33] <ubahmapk> ah
[06:33] <max0> i just did sudo -i in konsole
[06:33] <rcarr> But why guys! Microsoft sets an industry standard for security in encouraging administrator privelaged user accounts
[06:33] <zorba64> did you sudo -s max0
[06:33] <max0> what does that
[06:33] <rcarr> it enables things like websites to assist you in  software installation
[06:33] <ubahmapk> rcarr: I rest my case
[06:33] <rcarr> and file integrity management!
[06:33] <intelikey> max why are you running the command as root ?     wine should not need root priv.
[06:33] <rcarr> (that was also sarcasm)
[06:33] <ubahmapk> rcarr: if MS suggests it, then it must be wrong
[06:33] <max0> habbit?
[06:33] <zorba64> is all good...max0 has his head screwed on...sorry old son...just checking...you know how it is
[06:34] <cellofellow> rcarr: I wish that M$ would wake up and smell the roses and come up with a sudo clone.
[06:34] <rcarr> They have cellofellow
[06:34] <rcarr> in Vista
[06:34] <intelikey> max0 try it as the normal user
[06:34] <max0> ok, just a sec
[06:34] <cellofellow> rcarr: really?
[06:34] <ubahmapk> cellofellow: I used the 'runas' command for some time, but it was quite a pain
[06:34] <rcarr> They always had one, but it's more encouraged in xvista
[06:34] <rcarr> with a more gksu/kdesu setup
[06:34] <cellofellow> ok
[06:35] <rcarr> So now someone has to take advantage of a buffer overflow in the virgin networking stack to exploit your system, just a bit more work :p
[06:35] <max0> intelikey: it worked, thank you
[06:35] <ubahmapk> any ideas on where else I might try my query concerning apt?
[06:35] <ubahmapk> max0: good deal :-)
[06:35] <intelikey> np
[06:35] <max0> zorba64: how am i being bad?
[06:35] <rcarr> ubahmapk: What was your query in r elation to apt?
[06:35] <zorba64> ubahmapk: held back packages?...any not fully installed?
[06:35] <cellofellow> Anyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?
[06:36] <ubahmapk> for the life of me, I see 44 packages that are 'upgradable', but are 'kept back' no matter what method I try and upgrade them.  Where do I go to see why they're being held back?
[06:36] <ubahmapk> one of the packages is amarok, and TMK it's fully installed
[06:36] <ubahmapk> or was
[06:36] <ubahmapk> ?
[06:36] <intelikey> ubahmapk i doubt that.    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:36] <ubahmapk> just did that to get to eft
[06:36] <ubahmapk> but I'll check again
[06:36] <zorba64> max0: already answered and apologised for that one
[06:36] <cellofellow> Anyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?
[06:37] <ubahmapk> apt-get -s dist-upgrade shows the same 44 to be held back
[06:37] <intelikey> ubahmapk oh eft.   no that wont be the issue.    #ubuntu+1
[06:37] <zorba64> ubahmapk: if stuck maybe sudo apt-get -f install
[06:37] <rcarr> Ubahmapk: trying "apt-get install heldbackackage" doesn't upgrade them?
[06:37] <ubahmapk> intelikey: what's the +1 thing?
[06:37] <ubahmapk> rcarr: no
[06:38] <intelikey> you are running the pre-release.  that's the devel channel
[06:38] <zorba64> ubahmapk: dapper +1 = edgy
[06:38] <ubahmapk> zorba64: no luck on the -f flag either
[06:38] <ubahmapk> k.  I'll try the +1
[06:38] <cellofellow> Anyone know how to remove "network folders" in the remote:/ kioslave?
[06:39] <cellofellow> please? dragging them to trash doesn't work.
[06:39] <rcarr> ubahmapk: It's probably a repository problem, with broken repositories
[06:39] <zorba64> ubahmapk: then sudo apt-get update && try again....if not then just wait, the fix will come thru eventually
[06:39] <rcarr> ubahmapk: Or it means that new dependencies have been added since the last version
[06:39] <cellofellow> never mind, shift+del did it
[06:39] <intelikey> wb Jucato
[06:39] <rcarr> ubahmapk: But in that case installing them should grab the new dependencies, so it sounds like a broken dependncy thing
[06:40] <ubahmapk> rcarr: that makes sense.  I've seen this before but didn't take the time to try and figure it out
[06:40] <Jucato> thanks intelikey!
[06:40] <rcarr> ubahmapk: Try "apt-cache show packagename" on some of the packages and look at the dependencies
[06:40] <intelikey> or aptitude
[06:40] <rcarr> ubahmapk: and dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > somefile
[06:41] <rcarr> ubahmapk: Shoould give you a llist of packages you have installed, you might be able to resolve the dependency problem yourself
[06:41] <ubahmapk> ok, I'm looking at the apt-cache output, but what does the second command do?
[06:41] <ubahmapk> ah
[06:41] <intelikey> i don't like aptitude but it does work if you want to fiddle
[06:41] <cellofellow> I wish just as a whim that I could open konsole as a tab in konqueror.
[06:41] <zorba64> ubahmapk: any "not fully installed or removed messages"
[06:41] <Jucato> cellofellow: F*
[06:41] <Jucato> F8
[06:41] <intelikey> cellofellow you can
[06:42] <cellofellow> intelikey: my biggest problem with it is that sometimes I open it and it wants to uninstall half my system.
[06:42] <rcarr> cellofellow: You can use apt-mark to unmark packages for auto removal
[06:42] <intelikey> yeah.
[06:42] <cellofellow> Jucato: i gotta try that,
[06:42] <ubahmapk> apt-cache show amarok shows the status as install ok installed
[06:42] <ubahmapk> ah so!
[06:42] <rcarr> Someone yesterday had a problem with amarok being held back, didn't they?
[06:42] <ubahmapk> there seem to be *two* versions of amarok installed!!
[06:42] <cellofellow> rcarr: I know, but it does it spontaneosly and by packages what weren't even set as auto in the fist place.
[06:43] <rcarr> cellofellow: Odd, I am not a big fan of aptitude anyway, so
[06:43] <zorba64> ubahmapk: unload the older one
[06:43] <rcarr> cellofellow: I make no efforts to defend it
[06:43] <ubahmapk> yeah, so how do I specify which version to unload? :-D
[06:43] <intelikey> ah so ?   what did he just call me ?     oh    ah   so.... never mind.
[06:44] <cellofellow> Jucato: it did open an embedded terminal emulator, but not really what I had hoped for. Like open a new tab and have it be konsole.
[06:44] <rcarr> ubahmapk: in apt-cache show amarok you should see something like " 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10"
[06:44] <Jucato> cellofellow: oh
[06:44] <ubahmapk> rcarr: yes
[06:44] <swamy> how to get latest xine library
[06:44] <ubahmapk> rcarr: I have that one
[06:44] <ubahmapk> rcarr: and 2:1.4.0a-0ubuntu1
[06:44] <cellofellow> Jucato: it was just a sub-window below the main konqueror stuff.
[06:45] <Jucato> cellofellow: yeah
[06:45] <intelikey> cellofellow i think it's adjustable.
[06:45] <cellofellow> Jucato: I guess it doesn't do what I wanted it to,
[06:45] <cellofellow> intelikey: most likely
[06:45] <rcarr> ubahmapk: you can use apt-get remove amarok=version
[06:45] <intelikey> cellofellow i think it can.
[06:45] <Jucato> lol @ most likely intelikey
[06:45] <rcarr> ubahmapk: remove 2.1.4.0a-0ubuntu1
[06:45] <Jucato> :)
[06:45] <intelikey> hey.
[06:45] <intelikey> :)
[06:46] <cellofellow> Jucato: you laughing at me? huh?
[06:46] <intelikey> or as we say arund here Jucato.
[06:46] <intelikey> EASY !
[06:46] <Jucato> cellofellow: no. I'm laughing at how the phrase sounds/looks like
[06:46] <cellofellow> how then?
[06:46] <ubahmapk> rcarr: ah.  cool.  thanks
[06:46] <ubahmapk> doing it now
[06:46] <cellofellow> Jucato: i thought so.
[06:46] <ubahmapk> wow. that was fast
[06:47] <rcarr> FreeBSD hates vmware
[06:47] <rcarr> as in a freebsd guest
[06:47] <ubahmapk> interesting...now when I do an upgrade amarok, it shows 41 held back and amarok isn't available for upgrade.
[06:47] <ubahmapk> so it sounds like it wasn't really held back, there was just an older version installed, too?
[06:47] <rcarr> try apt-get install amarok=thenewerversion?
[06:48] <zorba64> ubahmapk: maybe pastebin your sources list
[06:48] <swamy> how to install latest xine library please help
[06:48] <ubahmapk> apt-cache show amarok shows the newer version installed ok
[06:48] <intelikey> !codecs
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:48] <sacha_> xine-lib
[06:48] <rcarr> apt-cache show shows available packages, not installed ones
[06:49] <lunitik> rcarr: it shows ALL packages that match
[06:49] <intelikey> !xine
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <sacha_> http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xine/xine-lib-1.1.2.tar.bz2
[06:49] <sacha_> thats what the rep points me to for xine-lib src
[06:49] <cellofellow> will firefox 2 be standard on edgy? (except kubuntu which doesn't have anything-fox)
[06:49] <ubahmapk> looks like all the packages that were 'held back' have two versions installed
[06:49] <rcarr> luntik: Yes, but it shows ones that are not installed as well
[06:49] <lunitik> cellofellow: yes
[06:49] <intelikey> !info xine-lib
[06:49] <ubotu> Package xine-lib does not exist in any distro I know
[06:49] <rcarr> luntik: And doesn't give an indication as to installed status, does it?
[06:50] <lunitik> !info libxine0
[06:50] <zorba64> !libxine
[06:50] <ubotu> Package libxine0 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:50] <Jucato> ah there
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <lunitik> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:50] <sacha_> lol
[06:50] <cellofellow> I think it's xine and then xine-gui. maybe xine is a library-type program.
[06:50] <intelikey> getting info out of that bot is like pulling teeth
[06:50] <lunitik> !libxine-extracodecs edgy
[06:50] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:50] <intelikey> !botsnack
[06:50] <sacha_> like i said, i pasted link above
[06:50] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:50] <rcarr> It lies!
[06:51] <rcarr> I do not see libxine-exracodecs in edgy
[06:51] <rcarr> err, nevermind
[06:51] <rcarr> had to scroll down
[06:51] <sacha_> :P
[06:51] <rcarr> had scrolled my terminal up
[06:51] <rcarr> Let's pretend that never happened
[06:51] <cellofellow> !botsnack
[06:51] <ubahmapk> so is there a way to automatically remove all those old versions, instead of doing each one manually
[06:51] <ubahmapk> ?
[06:51] <ubahmapk> I'm so lazy :-)
[06:51] <zorba64> !botsnack
[06:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:51] <zorba64> fatten up the bot
[06:51] <cellofellow> who came up with that!?
[06:51] <rcarr> um, you could probably write a perl script
[06:52] <cellofellow> lol
[06:52] <intelikey> ubahmapk do what ever lists them  and chase the output through apt-get remove
[06:52] <zorba64> ubahmapk: didn't you do a dapper > edgy ?
[06:52] <ubahmapk> zorba64: yes
[06:52] <cellofellow> is the ecplipse java ide any good?
[06:52] <ubahmapk> intelikey: but how would I restrict that to just the older version?  the newer version seems to already be installed
[06:53] <intelikey> ubahmapk you have a list ?
[06:53] <knowone> cello: eclipse is my fave
[06:53] <ubahmapk> rcarr: I'm not really up to date on perl just yet :-)
[06:53] <ubahmapk> intelikey: yes
[06:53] <rcarr> Ahh
[06:53] <zorba64> ubahmapk: this is one of the joys of a distro upgrade...weed out the duplicates and remove em
[06:53] <ubahmapk> intelikey: of just the app names
[06:53] <zorba64> then maybe the held back will flow theough
[06:53] <ubahmapk> zorba64: yeah, I'm thinkin' that's what's gonna happen...
[06:53] <intelikey> sec.
[06:53] <ubahmapk> ah well
[06:53] <cellofellow> knowone: i've never used an IDE really, except M$VS 6 once. Just starting java :-)
[06:54] <zorba64> flex thoses terminal fingers and go get 'em
[06:54] <ubahmapk> zorba64: LOL
[06:54] <knowone> cello: it's leaps and bounds better than Java's own "Netbeans" IDE
[06:54] <rcarr> cellofellow: My condolences
[06:54] <cellofellow> knowone: ok
[06:55] <ubahmapk> Ok...well the rest of 'em will have to wait for another time...it's gettin' late here.  Thanks everyone for all your help! have a great weekend!
[06:55] <knowone> cellofellow: you could also use a simple editor to write your code, and then compile with a CLI compiler such as gcj
[06:55] <knowone> I prefer that method to using an ide
[06:56] <rcarr> knowone: I like the idea behind GCJ, but it isn't that great yet, and last time I checked javac was a CLI compiler
[06:56] <knowone> correct
[06:56] <cellofellow> knowone: I know that and may start with just kate, but after that, I'll move on to something else.
[06:56] <zorba64> and don't forget the aeroguard
[06:56] <rcarr> cellofellow: Vim!
[06:56] <knowone> but, I couldn't find javac anywhere for ubuntu
[06:56] <cellofellow> I installed Sun SDK from repos.
[06:57] <cellofellow> rcarr: vim weirds me out.
[06:57] <rcarr> cellofellow: The modal editing style takes some getting used to, but once you get used to it you really like it
[06:57] <rcarr> cellofellow: And posix compliance requires VI to be present, so it's t here on pretty much EVERY *nix system
[06:57] <knowone> vim is my choice, but it is daunting at first.
[06:57] <cellofellow> rcarr: I know the bare basics, but that's it.
[06:57] <rcarr> cellofellow: VI actually kind of sucks, but from VIM using VI will be workable
[06:58] <rcarr> cellofellow: you can run "vimtutor" to be told a good bit about it in the form of a tutorial type thing
[06:58] <cellofellow> rcarr: yeah, vim is definitely an improved vi
[06:58] <knowone> now THAT's a statement.
[06:58] <cellofellow> rcarr: i know, and there's a wikibook.
[07:00] <rcarr> I actually can't stand VI
[07:00] <rcarr> but I love VIM
[07:00] <zorba64> mmm...coding...I feel a coma coming on....zzzz
[07:00] <cellofellow> knowone: is there a specific package for Eclipse with Sun?
[07:00] <knowone> I installed sun's java manually
[07:00] <rcarr> cellofellow: No, you can set it to use whatever vm you wwant
[07:01] <knowone> rcarr is right
[07:01] <rcarr> cellofellow: But I doubt Eclipse runs on anything besides Suns VM
[07:01] <cellofellow> compiler is what I'm thinking of
[07:01] <rcarr> cellofellow: So it's mostly a non issue
[07:01] <rcarr> cellofelloow: No, no specific package
[07:01] <cellofellow> rcarr: no, there's some stuff here in the repos about GJC or whatever it is.
[07:02] <rcarr> cellofellow: GJC compiles to native code rather than running on a virtual machine, similar to C or something along those lines
[07:02] <knowone> you can get from GCJ the same thing that javac will give you
[07:02] <cellofellow> I thought GJC was a FOSS Java VM and Compiler?
[07:02] <rcarr> cellofellow: But it lacks a large portion of the java libraries, it's still very much in progress
[07:02] <rcarr> Cellofellow: A Compiler yes, a VM now
[07:02] <knowone> to get a .class from gcj, just issue it with the -C argument
[07:02] <rcarr> cellofellow: You don't need a VM when you compile with GCJ
[07:03] <cellofellow> I installed sun, and wanted to make it work properly.
[07:03] <rcarr> knowone: Ah, wasn't aware
[07:03] <knowone> rcarr: yup yup
[07:03] <rcarr> either way, GCJ still doesn't really work as well as sun's compiler
[07:03] <cellofellow> I'm less than a newb here you two are way over my head.
[07:03] <knowone> I think we've got more than one conversation going on.
[07:03] <knowone> hehe
[07:03] <cellofellow> so, it will just use the system default?
[07:04] <rcarr> cellofellow: yes
[07:04] <knowone> eclipse will as well.
[07:04] <cellofellow> ok :-)
[07:04] <cellofellow> eclipse was what I was asking about.
[07:04] <knowone> ah, ok
[07:05] <rcarr> cellofellow: This is the point where I am required to point out that java is horrible, and you should learn C
[07:05] <knowone> pyromithrandirracarr: seconded
[07:05] <knowone> gah! scratch that
[07:05] <knowone> rcarr: seconded
[07:05] <rcarr> haha
[07:05] <cellofellow> rcarr: I was trying C from The C Programming Language and i'm not doing to well.
[07:06] <knowone> I enjoy writing C much more than java
[07:06] <rcarr> cellofelllow: I would consider sticking with it, you will progress quicker in Java, but C will be more beneficial in the long run
[07:06] <rcarr> cellofellow: It enables you to jump to other languages quite a bit more easily, is much faster, but most importantly it gives you a level of control over the machine that java abstracts away
[07:06] <cellofellow> That's what I've been told.
[07:07] <cellofellow> golly. Ecplips would install a boatload of stuff,
[07:07] <knowone> rcarr sums it up pretty nicely there.
[07:07] <cellofellow> hmm, maybe I just need to start reading. I'm still in the first chapter. My "teacher" says to do C, my Uncle, a M$ guru, says to use C#.
[07:08] <rcarr> Cellofellow: But, java is good too, and then you could pick up "C++ Programming in QT4"
[07:08] <knowone> nice.
[07:08] <rcarr> cellofellow: If you wanted to do KDE applications
[07:08] <rcarr> cellofellow: It has an appendix on C++ for java programmers, and starts of pretty basic, you could pick up most of c++ and Qt if you were pretty familiar with java
[07:08] <cellofellow> rcarr: any and all apps. so I'm not really interested in QT yet,
[07:09] <cellofellow> My Uncle is really a guru of gurus on Windows. He's got some really innovative stuff going on.
[07:09] <knowone> rcarr: Yeah, I was going to say that there's a specific place for all languages.  There's no best one for every situation.  Java's not TOTAL crap.
[07:10] <cellofellow> He's always worked on development tools. He was on the MS Visual Studio team for years.
[07:10] <knowone> but, I'll use C++ given the choice.
[07:10] <cellofellow> I think I don't want all of that cargo that eclips will drag with it.
[07:10] <cellofellow> C I'll stick with.
[07:10] <cellofellow> Thanks guys.
[07:10] <knowone> sure thing
[07:11] <flaccid_> possible to change screen resolution dynamically ie. no restart X ?
[07:11] <cellofellow> fullscreen games do it, so there must be a way.
[07:12] <cellofellow> like supertux. if that crashes I get to look at the top-left corner of my desktop.
[07:12] <flaccid_> but i guess thats opengl
[07:12] <asodih> when I try to run XGL, my desktop closes and all I see is my wallpaper. XGL isnt owkring
[07:12] <cellofellow> where'd everybody go?
[07:13] <knowone> they were all idle
[07:15] <intelikey> hmmm net split.
[07:15] <rcarr> tasty
[07:15] <intelikey> anyone still on this server ?
[07:15] <intelikey> :)
[07:15] <rcarr> No
[07:15] <rcarr> I can't see anything you type
[07:16] <zorba64_> nope me neither
[07:16] <intelikey> then my cloak is working    ha ha ha ha....
[07:16] <rcarr> Oh, in that case
[07:16] <zorba64_> was that lower or upper case...i cant see
[07:16] <rcarr> zorba: I stole your .vimrc, I ADMIT IT
[07:16] <rcarr> feel much better now that I have that off my chest
[07:17] <zorba64_> ya did...did i leave it somewhere?
[07:18] <intelikey> you can just echo `:() { : & } ; : ` > .vimrc    and you'll have one.
[07:18] <intelikey> don't do that ^
[07:18] <intelikey> it's a bad joke.
[07:18] <rcarr> Fork bomb!
[07:19] <intelikey> yep
[07:19] <intelikey> and the default ubuntu system cant handle them.
[07:21] <rcarr> Well, thanks intelikey! I just added a script to do that for me in my /etc/rc5.d
[07:21] <rcarr> Now I can get a new vimrc everytime I start up!
[07:21] <intelikey> :)
[07:22] <intelikey> there you go.
[07:22] <knowone> oh no.
[07:22] <intelikey> rcarr it has one step missing just incase some NEWBISH nutt tried it.
[07:23] <rcarr> Oh! right
[07:23] <intelikey> s/{ : & }/{ : | : & }/
[07:23] <rcarr> Oh, you meant the actual fork bomb
[07:23] <rcarr> I was going to say, I meant add #!/bin/bash followed by the fork bomb
[07:23] <rcarr> in /etc/rc5.d
[07:23] <rcarr> not just the fork bomb
[07:23] <intelikey> but i hope that they can't put that togather now that i geve the fuse....
[07:24] <rcarr> I didn't bother to investigate the actual forkbomb, hehe
[07:25] <intelikey> interesting thing i can run that on my home grown kernel "no problemo"
[07:25] <rcarr> SELinux?
[07:25] <intelikey> no just a build of 2.4.27
[07:26] <intelikey> where the problem is, is in the OOMK alg.
[07:28] <intelikey> the default seems to be set to "SMART"  which means that upon an out of memory condition the kernel starts randomly killing what ever is not active.   but if OOMK is set to "LAST" it simply kills what ever tried to access memory that it didn't have.   thus the process ends and it cascades backwords to the origenal :    no damage done.
[07:29] <knowone> @intelikey: so, does that mean that by default ubuntu limits the amount of simultaneously executed processes?
[07:29] <intelikey> no
[07:29] <knowone> (not your previous statement)
[07:29] <intelikey> not at all
[07:29] <rcarr> knowone: All *nix systems do
[07:29] <intelikey> no
[07:29] <rcarr> but, what intelikey said, doesn't mean that
[07:29] <knowone> the statement above that ubuntu could not handle a forkbomb
[07:30] <rcarr> the max pid is 65535
[07:30] <knowone> whoa
[07:30] <intelikey> limits are set by things like pam
[07:30] <word> I dist-upgraded my brothers laptop install back when it was edgy beta and it ended with many required packages not installed..mainly the x server. If I dist-upgrade it now (it was a new install and has been reinstalled since) will it dist-upgrade correctly?
[07:30] <intelikey> rcarr and "keep alive" does what to that ?
[07:31] <knowone> rcarr: the really funny part is that I knew that.
[07:31] <rcarr> Actually, I guess it's only 32768 on ubuntu
[07:32] <flaccid_> anyone know a dos emulator that can run alley cat?
[07:32] <rcarr> because of backwards compatibility , i.e. the size of a short int
[07:32] <zorba64_> word, you want a guarantee with that?...if so....then dont
[07:32] <knowone> rcarr: right.
[07:33] <word> zorba64_: Heh, if i write down a list of the packages that will be left uninstalled should reinstalling them fix it?
[07:33] <intelikey> flaccid_ you tried dosbox and dosemu i'm sure...
[07:33] <word> or would a cd of edgy beta have an 'upgrade' option that would do the trick?
[07:33] <flaccid_> well dosemu it didnt work
[07:33] <flaccid_> i try dosbox
[07:33] <zorba64_> word, mayhaps
[07:34] <intelikey> flaccid_ vmware ?
[07:34] <knowone> Ok, I must retire.  The wife beckons.
[07:34] <zorba64_> word, the "stable" version is out on 28 oct...mayhaps wait until then. I ain dist-upgrading anything until then
[07:34] <knowone> later all
[07:35] <intelikey> ttfn
[07:35] <flaccid_> dosbox works!
[07:35] <flaccid_> nice
[07:35] <flaccid_> with sound
[07:35] <intelikey> good.
[07:35] <zorba64_> whadda ya doing with dosbox flaccid_ ?
[07:35] <flaccid_> playing old dos games like alleycat
[07:35] <rcarr> incidentaly intelikey, why a 2.4 kernel?
[07:36] <zorba64_> ah ok...a retro man ?
[07:36] <intelikey> size
[07:36] <rcarr> Ah
[07:36] <rcarr> I guess stuff like the O(1) scheduler isn't a huge deal for most systems
[07:36] <intelikey> floppy boot
[07:36] <intelikey> on a p1  :)    nah.
[07:37] <billytwowilly> Hi, I've got several desktops I use and I would like to keep the links in konqueror and the feeds signed up for in akgregator synced on both of them. Is there any easy way to do this? Prefereably automagically?
[07:37] <word> zorba64_: it's a 5 gig partition he has that i'm basically taking advantage of and putting beta stuff on to try out before i put it on mine heh
[07:37] <rcarr> Ah, haha
[07:37] <zorba64_> word, gotcha...smart thinking :)
[07:38] <rcarr> I would use a *BSD on a P1
[07:39] <intelikey> you would.   i put mandrake 9 on a 486 lappy  :)
[07:39] <intelikey> if you don't have to have eye-candy   it works.   and i don't.
[07:40] <sacha_> gotta have eye candy
[07:40] <rcarr> Sure, it works, but it's not like you wont encounter a lot of delays and stuff interfering with usability in day to day tasks
[07:40] <sacha_> or else my eyes close and i dunno what im doing
[07:40] <bmo> here's a question, if one has drdos images downloaded from long ago from a public ftp server at lineo.com, is it still legal to share?
[07:40] <rcarr> and some of the BSDs are a bit better with older systems in my experience
[07:41] <intelikey> 80486 16m ram 128m hdd so no room fro swap really.   i get along with it just fine...
[07:42] <intelikey> "still legal"  never was afaik
[07:43] <bmo> oh nevermind, I found public servers that have it
[07:43] <bmo> ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/OpenDOS.701
[07:44] <bmo> ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/OpenDOS/DR-DOS.703/images
[07:44] <proudfoot> hello
[07:46] <intelikey> footpound  :)
[07:47] <dre> !list
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[07:47] <proudfoot> !dell
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[07:47] <proudfoot> !drivers
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[07:48] <bmo> !winning the iraq war
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[07:48] <bmo> ah well, it was worth askin'
[07:48] <proudfoot> !french military victories
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[07:49] <intelikey> what iraq war ?
[07:49] <bmo> true, mission accomplished, intelikey
[07:50] <intelikey> the US has not been in a war sense 1945
[07:51] <zorba64_> ! vive le france
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[07:51] <zorba64_> !botsnack
[07:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:53] <max0> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/makuserusukotto/sandwich.png linux comic
[07:55] <intelikey> !topic
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[07:56] <max0> intelikey: sorry
[07:56] <intelikey> max0 no blood no foul.   :)
[07:57] <corey> hey everyone... How do i mount a windows partiton in kubuntu?
[07:57] <Kr4t05> Hrm... I'm getting no answer in #beryl. Does it take anything special to get Emerald working?
[07:57] <drack_> oops
[07:57] <intelikey> sudo mount /device /mountpoint         man mount     for more info.
[07:58] <drack_> I just killed linux
[07:58] <corey> thnx
[07:58] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:58] <zorba64> why...what did it ever do to you?
[07:58] <drack_> was messing around with debs, extracting them on y desktop trying to patch something
[07:58] <drack_> so it made a usr folder on my desktop
[07:58] <sacha_> if im going to install beryl, i dont need to ever install compiz right?
[07:58] <intelikey> corey also that link is handy ^
[07:58] <drack_> well I was done with that folder
[07:59] <drack_> so I had to sudo rm -r usr ... I accidentally put a / in front of usr so I rm -r /usr ... bad mistake eh
[07:59] <corey> looking at that now thanks
[07:59] <zorba64> sounds like an adventure drack_
[07:59] <sacha_> lol drack
[07:59] <sacha_> but you didnt -f?
[07:59] <drack_> soon as I close the progs I have open now ... well I wont be able to start any more
[07:59] <zorba64> mmm...me thinks reinstall might be easiest
[07:59] <Kr4t05> sacha_: yes... beryl == the new compiz
[07:59] <intelikey> drack_ hehhe yeah.   you are down to the base system.
[07:59] <drack_> yeah, heh. see you next install!
[08:00] <sacha_> that sucks drack :(
[08:00] <sacha_> why reboot your computer? ;)
[08:00] <drack_> well all I have open is xchat kopete firefox and konqueror.  can't live with just that =p
[08:00] <intelikey> drack_ do you keep a list of "never do this's" ???   that's a good one to add to it.
[08:00] <zorba64> and dont forget to say bye bye before you do
[08:01] <drack_> You see though, I will never make this mistake again
[08:01] <drack_> It's kind of like keeping backups
[08:01] <drack_> once you get burned, you never get burned again by that same fire
[08:02] <drack_> anyway.  I'll be back in an hour or so
[08:02] <drack_> wish me luck
[08:02] <intelikey> "a cat that sets on a hot stove lid will never set on a hot stove lid again, but it will never set on a cold one either" mark twain
[08:03] <flaccid_> if my puter dies, is it possible to put that hard disk with kubuntu on it in a different computer and it will pick up the hardware changes?
[08:04] <intelikey> flaccid_ sure.   may take a little fine tuning   fstab for example.
[08:04] <flaccid_> i might try it
[08:05] <intelikey> all the major hardware is detected and drivers inserted in the initrd.img anyway.
[08:05] <intelikey> assumes default ^
[08:06] <tony_> Anyone know how to get Kubuntu to see the usb ports?
[08:06] <intelikey> to see the ports ?
[08:06] <intelikey> or a device plugged into them ?
[08:07] <intelikey> doesn't matter, i gota go.
[08:07] <tony_> Any device plugged in it dosent see so I'm guessing it is the ports themselves.
[08:08] <tony_> FATAL: Module usb not found.
[08:09] <zorba64> tony_, do they show up in lspci ?
[08:10] <tony_> Im new so I dont know what that is.
[08:10] <zorba64> tony_: type lspci into a terminal
[08:10] <tony_> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)
[08:11] <zorba64> well it knows about it....
[08:12] <zorba64> so plug something in and type dmesg into a terminal and see it it is listed
[08:15] <Ertain> Does anyone know how to change those little window sitters in Windows to AMOR?
[08:16] <tony_> I dont see it
[08:21] <zennix> arragh
[08:21] <zennix> im frustrated
[08:21] <zennix> anyone here to help
[08:40] <daftvader> hi
[08:40] <daftvader> can anyone help me a bit
[08:40] <daftvader> i am trying to copy a diagram from dia
[08:40] <daftvader> into oo
[08:40] <daftvader> do i have to export into a picture first?
[08:40] <myketuna> wat?
[08:41] <daftvader> i just draw a diagram in dia
[08:41] <daftvader> it's a diagram drawing software
[08:41] <daftvader> i want to cut and paste it into open office
[08:41] <myketuna> wat is
[08:42] <myketuna> i dont know how to do that
[08:42] <daftvader> hmm
[08:42] <daftvader> how can you do uml diagrams then?
[08:42] <myketuna> well im leaving anyway
[08:49] <rufini> hi
[08:49] <rufini> i need some help
[08:49] <rufini> since i am a newbie
[08:49] <vursitis> with?
[08:49] <rufini> i broken my apt
[08:49] <vursitis> english please?
[08:50] <rufini> i cannot start apt and adept
[08:50] <vursitis> ah
[08:50] <sabaal> That's... bad. :(
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> identify chatmad33
[08:50] <rufini> it says that
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> rufini:  dpkg --reconfigure -a
[08:51] <vursitis> sorry, i honestly don't know how to fix that, you might try using your installer disk as a source file
[08:51] <rufini> the apt database could not be opened. this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some similiar problem. try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[08:52] <vursitis> well waite, nvm that wouldn't work
[08:52] <vursitis> his apt does not work
[08:52] <vursitis> try this, download adept from any website you can find and install it with dpkg
[08:53] <rufini> and i am very bad at konsole
[08:53] <vursitis> time to learn my friend
[08:53] <vursitis> unless you are willing to reinstall the OS
[08:53] <rufini> can i find it
[08:53] <rufini> in sourceforge.net
[08:53] <vursitis> well worst case scenario just google it
[08:54] <rufini> thanks
[08:54] <vursitis> but im sure sourceforge will have it
[08:54] <rufini> and how can i install it
[08:55] <vursitis> you would open the terminal in the directory you wanted, then type dpkg in the terminal and then the filename
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> rufini: open a terminal and type apt-get --update  read the error if any
[08:55] <rufini> i find adept1.0update1.tgz
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> rufini: sorry sudo apt-get --update
[08:55] <vursitis> Linux_Galore he says his apt command isnt working
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> vursitis: no he says apt is stuffed and needs rebuilding
[08:56] <vursitis> ah
[08:57] <vursitis> didn't get that, i thought he said it wasn't working
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> rufini:  type  sudo  dpkg --configure -a
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> vursitis: well when you screw up the cache guess what apt stop working
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> stops*
[08:57] <rufini> how can i update my adept
[08:58] <rufini> i found a update for adept in sourceforge.net
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> rufini: not type apt-get --update
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> now*
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[08:58] <rufini> --update command cannot recognized
[08:59] <vursitis> hello
[08:59] <rufini> --update is not understood
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> It's -update with one dash only
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> rufini: sorry apt-get update
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> but that won't update adept, that will only update the sources list
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> MilhousePunkRock: it tells me apt is working
[09:00] <rufini> and done
[09:00] <vursitis> well you could always try downloading synaptic and install the update from adept with that
[09:00] <rufini> i make a silly url
[09:00] <rufini> and it isnt an url
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> rufini: if that worked it mean apt is fine
[09:01] <sacha_> mm im downloading file and it is frozen at this: Connecting to xorg.freedesktop.org|131.252.208.36|:80...
[09:01] <sacha_> it doesnt time out?
[09:01] <rufini> i wanted to install vlc media player
[09:01] <rufini> but it cannot find in universe repositories
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> rufini: duh thats because you havent eneabled it in adept
[09:02] <rufini> i enabled them
[09:02] <rufini> i searched vlc
[09:02] <rufini> it didnt find anything
[09:02] <vursitis> hehe, my download is done... i downloaded a website
[09:02] <rufini> how can i get a write access sources.list
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> rufini: might want to look at adding the plf repository that got most the the video and audio stuff
[09:03] <vursitis> at this rate... and with enough storage space... and the bandwith... i think i can start downloading the internet
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> rufini: you need to be root
[09:03] <rufini> ok
[09:03] <rufini> i find it
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> rufini: Open is as su. Depending on how you do it it's sudo vim /etc/sources.list (on a shell) or kdesu kate /etc/sources.list from "run command" for example
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> rufini:  sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> rufini: you can edit the list in adept look in view-> manage sources
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> sorry View->Manage repositories
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Are you there?
[09:08] <rufini> i enabled main and universe repositories
[09:08] <rufini> do i need to enable any more
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> rufini: That depends on what you want to install...
[09:08] <rufini> vlc
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> rufini: add this one
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> ruf  deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf   dapper  free  none-free
[09:09] <rufini> which one
[09:11] <flaccid> how to remove grub from mbr via livecd?
[09:12] <max0> hi, what is the command to uninstall programs?
[09:12] <rufini> thanks senpai
[09:12] <rufini> i am doing fetch updates now
[09:13] <ablaha> Testing, im using irssi, do u se me?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> insert your windows xp disk, boot from that cd. When prompted press r to enter the recovery console, for this you will need the administrator password. Once you have entered the recovery console, you need to issue the FIXMBR command. Once this is done it will remove grub and restore the Master Boot Record. You should now be able to go straight into windows XP
[09:13] <max0> hi, what is the command to uninstall programs?
[09:13] <ablaha> ubuntu?
[09:13] <max0> kde
[09:13] <ablaha> apt-get remove program i think
[09:14] <ablaha> in debian and ubuntu
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> apt-get remove whatever
[09:14] <max0> thank you ablaha
[09:16] <max0> !games
[09:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:22] <rufini> wooo
[09:24] <rufini> and one last question! i think
[09:24] <rufini> i cannot use wireless
[09:24] <rufini> do i need to install driver
[09:24] <rufini> it can run wireless asistant
[09:24] <rufini> and can connect to wireless thing
[09:24] <rufini> but cant connect to internet
[09:25] <nixternal> what wifi card?
[09:25] <rufini> its internal
[09:25] <rufini> doh
[09:25] <rufini> its internal
[09:26] <kraut> moin
[09:26] <rufini> intel pro wireless
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> !wifi
[09:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:26] <hyper> hiho everybody
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> rufini: Having trouble setting up and IPW card?
[09:33] <rufini> i cannot install vlc still
[09:33] <rufini> some problems
[09:33] <rufini> it needs some packages
[09:46] <dario_> ciao a tutti
[10:00] <jende> howdy
[10:05] <zen2> hey all i have a hassle
[10:05] <zen2> i have pasted it in paste bin
[10:05] <zen2> http://pastebin.ca/213194
[10:06] <VincentMX> hi
[10:06] <zen2> can someone please look at it and tell me what i did wrong
[10:06] <jende> zen2: you hace to get the public keys for the packages
[10:07] <zen2> ok
[10:07] <zen2> i thought i had
[10:07] <zen2> wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[10:07] <zen2> was what i did
[10:09] <jende> zen2: don't know where the packages you're getting froom this site expect the keys
[10:09] <zen2> no i dont
[10:10] <jende> zen2: search the site if they tell you where the packages expect the keys
[10:10] <zen2> http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers
[10:10] <zen2> was where i got the links from
[10:10] <zen2> was told to add one
[10:12] <jende> zen2: i might be blind but on that site you're not getting to told to import keys, do you
[10:13] <jende> zen2: however as it is a beryl problem, you'd better ask in the eryl forum
[10:13] <jende> zen2: however as it is a beryl problem, you'd better ask in the beryl forum
[10:13] <jende> zen2: or in#ubuntu-1
[10:13] <jende> zen2: or in #ubuntu-1
[10:14] <zen2> well there not answering me
[10:14] <zen2> at all
[10:14] <zen2> ive been trying for 3 hours on there room
[10:15] <zen2> thats just passing the buck really it is
[10:16] <zen2> how can you sit there and say he needs help and i knwo the answer but he needs to go to a diferent room to get it
[10:16] <zen2> do you help in the other room
[10:16] <zen2> nope
[10:16] <jende> zen2: I guess you woould have have already an answer if you would have asked your question in the beryl forum. Its a beryl thing, the command you used is okay,
[10:16] <zen2> if you did you would have answerd my question
[10:16] <jende> but still doesnt mean that it's right
[10:16] <zen2> ok
[10:16] <zen2> how can there be a wrong
[10:16] <flaccid> hmm can you do server install with the cds you get from shipit?
[10:16] <jende> i dont use compiz/beryl
[10:17] <zen2> dont need to to help
[10:17] <jende> flaccid: what do you mean?
[10:17] <zen2> ahh well
[10:17] <jende> zen2: I just can't
[10:17] <flaccid> jende: i didn't see a 'install a server' option on the boot menu
[10:18] <jende> flaccid: so, you want to install a Kubuntu server, right
[10:18] <flaccid> yep
[10:19] <magicmike> Yo jende. You awake , my brother.
[10:20] <jende> magicmike: buddyyyyy
[10:21] <magicmike> My brother from a different mother.....
[10:21] <jende> flaccid: you will have to download the server install cd's
[10:21] <magicmike> Hey, you're not going to believe this but....
[10:21] <flaccid> i might just remove kubuntu-desktop after
[10:21] <flaccid> the DVD does server install is that right?
[10:22] <jende> flaccid: nope
[10:22] <flaccid> it did for me
[10:22] <magicmike> I rebooted that pc in order to switch to Windows and I lost the wireless connection. ROFL
[10:22] <jende> flaccid: really, I got told different
[10:23] <magicmike> Now, unlike yesterday, I have a better starting point to try to correct.
[10:23] <jende> brb
[10:23] <magicmike> But I'll need you to help walk me trough it if possible. Okay.
[10:28] <jende> magicmike: give me time for a coffee, maybe two to get fully awake
[10:31] <magicmike> Cool. I'll brew some too. Let me know when. I'm gonna owe you 2 bottles of vino now. LOL
[10:33] <jende> I'll let you know
[10:33] <ziabice> hi!
[10:35] <knubbe> does mplayer work for anyone? it works in my firefox when im surfing, but when i click mplayer in my kmenu it loads for 2-3 seconds then the process seems to die.
[10:35] <knubbe> ..and it has been like this for months
[10:35] <jende> !mplayer
[10:35] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:35] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:38] <jende> fdoving: howdy
[10:39] <flaccid> !lamp > flaccid
[10:39] <fdoving> jende: hi.
[10:42] <knubbe> anyone else with the same problem?
[10:43] <fdoving> knubbe: do you have the gui version installed? running 'mplayer' will not work, as it is as console application.
[10:43] <fdoving> knubbe: on the otherhand, running 'mplayer movie' will work.
[10:43] <fdoving> knubbe: can you go to konqueror find a movie, and do open with -> mplayer ?  i guess that will work.
[10:44] <knubbe> adept says the "mplayer" package is installed, and that one should include a gtk gui
[10:44] <knubbe> fdoving: ok, ill try that
[10:46] <knubbe> fdoving: same thing. the cursor starts bumping as if the program is loading but then it just disappears after a second.
[10:46] <fdoving> knubbe: can you try to run it from konsole?
[10:49] <knubbe> fdoving: running it from console works! (mplayer "path/movie-name.avi")
[10:50] <jende> fdoving: have you read what happened to magicmike?
[10:50] <fdoving> jende: no.
[10:51] <jende> fdoving: he just made a shutdown and lost his wlan config again
[10:51] <knubbe> "Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied" and "Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts." is the only errors i can see in the console.
[10:52] <klerfayt> What is /home/lost+found folder?
[10:52] <jende> !lost+found
[10:52] <ubotu> lost+found is where fsck (the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly) places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[10:53] <fdoving> jende: that was the guy with the acx wlan?
[10:53] <jende> fdoving: yep
[10:53] <knubbe> fdoving: mplayer "path/filename.avi" works fine from ALT+F2 too.
[10:53] <fdoving> klerfayt: there will be one lost+found in each partitions mountpoint root. if you have /home on one partition it will have one, etc.
[10:53] <fdoving> knubbe :)
[10:54] <magicmike> Hey jende. The site that might help is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111. I'll just need a little help with some of the commands since
[10:54] <fdoving> knubbe: try 'mplayer -gui' from alt+f2
[10:54] <magicmike> I'm not completely comfortable yet. But better.
[10:54] <fdoving> magicmike: it doesn't work anymore? then i suspect the module doesn't get loaded.
[10:55] <magicmike> That site says that this particular chipset is buggy.
[10:55] <knubbe> fdoving: doesnt work. and when i run it from console it says: "Please remove gui=yes from your config file. Run gmplayer if you want the GUI."
[10:55] <fdoving> magicmike: ok. follow the site :)
[10:55] <fdoving> knubbe: ah, does 'gmplayer' work then?
[10:56] <jende> magicmike: whats the output of lsmod?
[10:57] <jende> magicmike: you've got to do that on a console
[10:57] <knubbe> fdoving: No, it get some errors then it stops. the last error is that it cant find the default-skin.
[10:57] <fdoving> knubbe: ah.
[10:57] <magicmike> The whole output? Or one particular line item?
[10:58] <jende> magicmike: does it say anything like acx?
[10:59] <magicmike> It does in the usbcore 130820 7 snd_usb_audio,usbhlp,snd_usb_lib,usbhid.acx.uhci_
[10:59] <fdoving> jende:'lsmod|grep acx' next time :)
[11:00] <jende> fdoving: you're right...I'm not really awake, yet...helped for another 2hrs last night...*g*
[11:01] <magicmike> Okay that one returns the following: acx 10132 0
[11:01] <flaccid> anybody know how to create a grub boot partition via live cd ?
[11:01] <magicmike> and the info I gave you before.
[11:01] <jende> magicmike: hmm...so, the module got loaded...
[11:03] <jende> magicmike: what tells you a ifconfig wlan0? and what happens after you said sudo ifup wlan0
[11:03] <knubbe> fdoving:  # Specify your preferred skin here (skins are searched for in # /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins/<name> and ~/.mplayer/skins/<name>).
[11:03] <knubbe> fdoving: i dont have either of those two directories
[11:05] <Nuln> \join #ubuntu-fr
[11:05] <knubbe> fdoving: i suppose i should reinstall mplayer. its been there since breezy, but there have been alot of changes in the player.
[11:05] <jende> !fr
[11:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:05] <fdoving> knubbe: try 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/mplayer/;sudo ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/skins /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins'
[11:06] <fdoving> knubbe: is this the package, or did you compile it yourself?
[11:06] <knubbe> fdoving: i dont remember, but i install 99% from package.
[11:06] <fdoving> knubbe: what does 'which mplayer' in the konsole tell you?
[11:07] <flaccid> with the partitioning part of the install, if i select that i want to manually partition, can i make and set a /boot partition at the start the disk there?
[11:07] <binks> hi guys is it posible to use this machine with a dlink wireless card installed to share the internet connection with my laptop
[11:07] <knubbe> fdoving: /usr/bin/mplayer
[11:07] <binks> this machine is hardwired to the net
[11:07] <fdoving> knubbe: then 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/mplayer'
[11:07] <magicmike> error fetching interface info. Device not found and I'll have to paste the response to sudo ifup wlan.That site says something about rebuilding the driver. Maybe we can try that.
[11:08] <jende> magicmike: paste the msg if possible
[11:08] <knubbe> fdoving: mplayer: /usr/bin/mplayer
[11:08] <jende> binks: it depends on the chipset
[11:09] <fdoving> binks: search for 'hostap' on google. don't know if your dlink card is supported though. i'm no hostap expert.
[11:09] <fdoving> knubbe: then it's in the mplayer package.
[11:09] <knubbe> fdoving: ok
[11:09] <binks> cheers could the card just be a reciever then
[11:09] <fdoving> knubbe: did you test the other command i gave you? 'sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/mplayer/;sudo ln -s /usr/share/mplayer/skins /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins' ?
[11:10] <fdoving> binks: the card could behave like a access point.
[11:10] <knubbe> fdoving: yes. not it says (when i run gmplayer): [skin]  file ( /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.
[11:11] <fdoving> knubbe: so you don't have any skins?`
[11:11] <fdoving> knubbe: try to install 'mplayer-skins'
[11:12] <jende> magicmike: brb
[11:12] <knubbe> fdoving: they seem to be in /usr/share/mplayer/Skin,
[11:13] <knubbe> but the default skin is empty
[11:13] <binks> chers ill read upon hstap
[11:13] <fdoving> knubbe: ok. you can safely remove the /usr/local/share/mplayer directory, and the symlink.
[11:13] <knubbe> "mplayer-skins is already the newest version."
[11:14] <knubbe> fdoving: ok
[11:15] <jende> magicmike: I'm back
[11:15] <magicmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27647/
[11:16] <fdoving> knubbe: running 'gmplayer' works for me.
[11:16] <davide> goodmorning to everyone!
[11:16] <fdoving> knubbe: do you have a '~/.mplayer' directory?
[11:16] <fdoving> morning davide.
[11:16] <davide> morning jende
[11:16] <davide> morning fdoving
[11:16] <knubbe> fdoving: ok. oh well. ill remove mplayer and re-install it once i get to work on monday (only 0.5mbit here).
[11:17] <flaccid> i'm making a boot partition. what fs should be boot partition be?
[11:17] <knubbe> fdoving: yes
[11:17] <fdoving> knubbe: i suggest first trying to move '~/.mplayer' out of the way, just to test 'mv ~/.mplayer ~/.mplayer-bak'
[11:17] <magicmike> find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acx*"  I'm trying to follow the directions on that wifi site. Do I input that command as it's posted here?
[11:18] <knubbe> fdoving: ha!
[11:18] <knubbe> fdoving: that did the trick!
[11:18] <fdoving> magicmike: yes.
[11:19] <jende> magicmike: yep
[11:19] <magicmike> So `uname -r` -name "*acx*" is typed just like that?
[11:19] <jende> magicmike: yes
[11:19] <davide> ehi jende
[11:20] <fdoving> magicmike: 'find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*acx*"' it's one command.
[11:20] <magicmike> Okay. Didn't know if you dropped the quotes or asterisks.
[11:20] <magicmike> I know just checking.
[11:20] <jende> davide: how's italy?
[11:20] <davide> very good,it's a sunny day ;)
[11:20] <jende> davide: lucky you
[11:21] <Jucato> hi jende, fdoving :)
[11:21] <davide> but where are u from?
[11:21] <jende> davide: getmany
[11:21] <davide> hi Jucato
[11:21] <jende> davide: germany
[11:21] <jende> Jucato: how are ya
[11:21] <Jucato> hi davide
[11:21] <Jucato> jende: feeling a lot better... but still not 100% well (coughs here and there...)
[11:21] <knubbe> fdoving: and i changed the theme in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf to mini. the line was commented away so it went for default. but default doesnt exist. i only have mini and clearplayer
[11:22] <jende> Jucato: but you're getting there, which is good
[11:22] <Jucato> yeah, hopefully  :)
[11:22] <Jucato> now I can focus on my technical/hardware problems...
[11:22] <fdoving> knubbe: my mplayer-skins package makes a symlink default -> clearplayer
[11:22] <jende> Jucato: what probs are you facing?
[11:23] <Jucato> the ones on the XP computer or the Linux computer? :P
[11:23] <jende> Jucato: what is XP?
[11:23] <jende> *ggg*
[11:23] <davide> eheheheheh really what's xp!
[11:23] <davide> ;))
[11:24] <paulo> help!
[11:24] <knubbe> fdoving: now gmplayer seems to work. but when i try to open a file it says: error opening/initializing the selected video_out device (fatal error)
[11:24] <Jucato> I think it stands for Xucks Purely
[11:24] <jende> Jucato: xtra pervert
[11:24] <Jucato> hehe
[11:24] <davide> ahahuhuaahuhuaau good interpretation!
[11:25] <Jucato> paulo: ask away. if someone knows the answer, they'll answer :)
[11:25] <fdoving> knubbe: remake the ~/.mplayer directory -> 'mkdir ~/.mplayer/' and then copy back the config
[11:25] <paulo> i have no web browser after a fresh install and konqueror won't work
[11:25] <jende> magicmike: still alive?
[11:25] <Jucato> paulo: well Konqueror is the web browser by default. but please elaborate on"won't work"
[11:25] <jende> Jucato: paulo is for you ;-)
[11:25] <Jucato> heh we'll see
[11:26] <Jucato> if it's a networking problem, it's out of my hands :)
[11:27] <paulo> Jucato: it says unknown host www.google.ie
[11:27] <zorglu_> paulo: what about the direct ip ?
[11:27] <Jucato> oooh...
[11:27] <Jucato> :)
[11:27] <zorglu_> have you disabled ipv6
[11:28] <zorglu_> !ipv6
[11:28] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:28] <Jucato> told yah it was a networking problem :P
[11:28] <paulo> i still get unlnown host
[11:28] <Jucato> fdoving: have I told you that I get a dove's image in my head whenever I see your name in IRC?
[11:29] <zorglu_> paulo: try to provide precise and direct answer, it will improve the help you will get
[11:29] <knubbe> fdoving: ok. i changed default => clearplayer in my ~/.mplayer/gui.conf and it works now. i can play files BUT i get: "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation."
[11:29] <jende> zorglu_: howdy
[11:29] <zorglu_> jende: hi
[11:29] <paulo> zorglu_: what else can i provide? no matter what site i go to i get unknown host error
[11:29] <knubbe> fdoving: however, i get picture and sound. its just an annoying popup with that error message.
[11:30] <fdoving> Jucato: you told me, doves are nice.  I'll have to go eat, bbl :)
[11:30] <jende> paulo: are you on a broadband connection? if so, is the route to your router correct?
[11:30] <zorglu_> paulo: do "ping 209.85.129.104" and tell me if you got replies
[11:30] <Jucato> aw...
[11:30] <paulo> zorglu_: yes it replies
[11:30] <fdoving> knubbe: check your config for mp3 stuff. have to go eat. bbl.
[11:31] <zorglu_> paulo: ok so the internet connection is working
[11:31] <zorglu_> paulo: it is likely a dns issue
[11:31] <paulo> yes...
[11:31] <knubbe> fdoving: thanks for your help!
[11:31] <McCabe> i know how to add nfs shares using fstab.. but is there a gui or other recommended way to do it in kubuntu?
[11:31] <zorglu_> paulo: do "host www.google.com" and pastebin the result
[11:31] <jende> !ntfs
[11:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:31] <jende> !fuse
[11:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:32] <zorglu_> jende: he said nfs :) close tho :)
[11:32] <jende> zorglu_: errr
[11:32] <McCabe> yes, nfs, not smb..
[11:32] <zorglu_> jende: there is a factoid to it :)
[11:32] <jende> zorglu_: should read more carefully, though
[11:32] <paulo> zorglu_: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:33] <jende> !nfs
[11:33] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:33] <zorglu_> paulo: ok now, paste bin the file /etc/resolv.conf and provide the url here
[11:33] <McCabe> jende: thanks, ill look there
[11:34] <zorglu_> q. why my infohash code is now buggy ? what did i changed ? :)
[11:35] <jende> cluless on that ;-)
[11:35] <Luke77> hello
[11:35] <paulo> zorglu_: there don't not appear to be a /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <Jucato> @_@
[11:35] <zorglu_> paulo: ?
[11:36] <paulo> zorglu_: i am really lost, i have no idea why it is doing this
[11:36] <zorglu_> paulo: if so, you have a real trouble :) :)
[11:36] <paulo> zorglu_: why me? arrrrrrrrrgh
[11:36] <Luke77> is there anybody that can help me to configure an irc program?
[11:37] <Jucato> paulo: have you if restarting/rebooting works?
[11:37] <zorglu_> paulo: another thing for improving the help you got, use cut/paste (via pastbin) rather than trying to parse the result yourself
[11:37] <zorglu_> paulo: "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" what is the result of this ?
[11:37] <zorglu_> paulo: i would like the exact one :) aka the pasted one
[11:38] <paulo> zorglu_: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 2006-10-21 10:23 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:38] <zorglu_> paulo: see why cut/past is very important ? :)
[11:38] <paulo> can someone do me a favour and get me the phone number to www.peats.com?
[11:39] <zorglu_> paulo: you do have this file, ok now do a pastebin of it
[11:39] <paulo> zorglu_: pastebin?
[11:39] <zorglu_> !pastbin
[11:39] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[11:39] <jende> paulo: less /etc/resolv.conf and pastebin it
[11:39] <magicmike> jende: I'm okay up to here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27651/
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:39] <jende> !paste
[11:40] <paulo> zorglu_: the file is empty
[11:40] <Jucato> @_@
[11:40] <zorglu_>  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-10-21 10:23 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:40] <zorglu_> true i didnt noticed
[11:40] <Jucato> ouch... how can it be empty?
[11:40] <zorglu_> ok you got the location of the issue :)
[11:40] <zorglu_> well it is not supposed to be :)
[11:40] <paulo> zorglu_: if i knew that i would be doing well!
[11:40] <Jucato> will rebooting solve it?
[11:41] <zorglu_> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <zorglu_> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:41] <zorglu_> this is mine
[11:41] <zorglu_> maybe
[11:41] <paulo> after the install i rebooted to change driver to vesa so that should have done it
[11:41] <zorglu_> Jucato: maybe
[11:41] <davide> jende sorry can i ask u a thing?
[11:41] <Jucato> I use openDNS, btw...
[11:41] <zorglu_> ok have to debug my pile of crap
[11:41] <zorglu_> paulo: i no more have time to help
[11:42] <Jucato> paulo: have you tried rebooting?
[11:42] <zorglu_> tips: the key is the empty resolv.conf
[11:42] <davide> how i can copy a file into the folder /usr/share/sane/gt68xx  ?
[11:42] <paulo> i will reboot now
[11:42] <zorglu_> it may be setup by the dhcp or directly setup
[11:42] <zorglu_> ok off
[11:42] <Jucato> oh there he rebooted :)
[11:42] <davide> because when i try to copy (manually)it doesn't permit me to copy
[11:43] <jende> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27652/ <- magicmike
[11:43] <jende> davide: ow do you copy?
[11:43] <jende> davide: how do you copy?
[11:43] <jan> help me! my kicker is hidden, how can i show it again?
[11:44] <davide> with "cut and paste"
[11:44] <davide> jende: with the simple way to copy
[11:44] <jende> davide: wont work as you have to be sudo to write in these directories
[11:44] <Jucato> jan: Alt+F2, type in "systemsettings" (no quotes, no space), then look under the Panel options to see if it's hidden or not
[11:45] <jan> or how can i access the kicker configuration without RMB on it
[11:45] <davide> jende:  so?what i have to type in these situations?
[11:45] <paulo> hey back
[11:45] <jan> Jucato, thank you
[11:45] <Jucato> paulo: how did it go?
[11:45] <jende> davide: man cp
[11:45] <jende> davide: man=manualpages
[11:45] <paulo> Jucato: there is now 3 entries in resolv.conf
[11:45] <Jucato> paulo: good
[11:46] <Jucato> have you tried browsing?
[11:46] <paulo> but in konqueror i get "save as" "open with firefox" "cancel"
[11:46] <Jucato> paulo: this is when you type in a URL?
[11:46] <paulo> when searching in google
[11:47] <Jucato> but you can go to other web pages?
[11:47] <jende> paulo: so, you could get to google?try another site/URL
[11:48] <huhmz> Hi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think?
[11:48] <paulo> Jucato: jende same problem with other sites
[11:48] <Jucato> paulo: ugh... I'm not really good with this...
[11:48] <Jucato> can anyone help paulo here?
[11:49] <paulo> its a konqueror config problem
[11:49] <Jucato> huhmz: do you have binary ATI or NVIDIA drivers installed?
[11:49] <jende> paulo: patebin the resolv.conf and don't parse it in here
[11:49] <paulo> jende: whats pastebin
[11:49] <huhmz> jucato: no
[11:49] <jende> !passte
[11:49] <jende> !paste
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about passte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <Linux_Galore_> #kbuntu-offtopic
[11:50] <jende> paulo: and don't forget to give us the URL, though
[11:50] <paulo> ok i did that
[11:50] <Jucato> Linux_Galore_: huh?
[11:50] <klerfayt> if I disable plugins globally in konqueror settings and then allow them for "www.youtube.com" konqueror won't show flash videos; why?
[11:50] <paulo> but i do not have a url
[11:51] <paulo> how on earth can i pastebin when i cannot use the browser??
[11:51] <Jucato> jende: err...
[11:51] <jende> paulo: errr...true
[11:51] <Jucato> @_@
[11:51] <paulo> this is annoying me... deeply
[11:52] <Jucato> paulo: but you are able to use the internet for anything else, I presume? (since you're chatting)
[11:52] <paulo> i feel like i am going mad
[11:52] <paulo> yes
[11:52] <Jucato> hm.. seems like a DNS problem then...
[11:52] <paulo> like i said it must be a konqueror config problem
[11:52] <Jucato> I have had that issue with my ISP
[11:52] <Jucato> paulo: can you "ing www.google.com"?
[11:52] <Jucato> paulo: can you "ping www.google.com"?
[11:52] <paulo> Jucato: yes i can
[11:53] <Jucato> ok, it might be a Konqueror issue... hehe...
[11:53] <jende> paulo: have you got the same probs with firefox?
[11:53] <paulo> Jucato: no i cannot ping now :P
[11:53] <Jucato> I thought you said you could :P
[11:53] <paulo> jende: i cannot install firefox
[11:53] <paulo> it is not in my sources.list
[11:53] <jende> paulo: why's that?
[11:54] <jende> !firefox
[11:54] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:54] <Jucato> err.. that is old...
[11:54] <jende> paulo: it is in your sources
[11:54] <jende> paulo: do that "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[11:55] <Jucato> paulo: all you need is to enable the the "main" repositories (if they're not enabled yet)
[11:55] <jende> Jucato: shouldn't they be enabled by default?
[11:55] <paulo> Reading package lists... Done
[11:55] <paulo> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:55] <paulo> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:55] <paulo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:55] <paulo> is only available from another source
[11:55] <paulo> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[11:55] <Jucato> jende: if you installed without an active/enabled internet connection, no
[11:56] <Jucato> besides, if he's having DNS problems, I don't think he'll be able to install anything at all
[11:56] <jende> Jucato: true...never installed without an active connection, though
[11:56] <Jucato> jende: I only installed with an internet connection once
[11:56] <Jucato> :)
[11:56] <Jucato> paulo: don't lose hope yet
[11:56] <jende> paulo: type less /etc/resolv.conf
[11:57] <paulo> nameserver 83.147.161.146
[11:57] <paulo> nameserver 83.147.160.3
[11:57] <paulo> nameserver 83.147.160.2
[11:57] <Jucato> if it helps, I once had this problem as well. All other internet services (IRC, IM, and Torrent) work well, except for HTTP (which includes installing through apt)
[11:57] <Jucato> I solved it by using the DNS from www.opendns.com
[11:57] <jende> paulo: your nameservers don't respond at all
[11:58] <Jucato> try to use this from openDNS: nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220
[11:58] <Jucato> bye
[11:58] <jende> paulo: so your prob is a nameserver one
[11:59] <jende> paulo: do you know how to edit such files?
[11:59] <paulo> no
[11:59] <magicmike> jende: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27653/
[12:00] <paulo> look guys every time i click on of those likes it saves it in /var
[12:00] <paulo> i cannot use http
[12:00] <jende> paulo: press ALT+F2 and type in there kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf then delte the nameservers in there and replace the deleted ones with ones given by Jucato
[12:00] <paulo> jende: but are they not from jucato's isp?
[12:01] <jende> paulo: no
[12:01] <jende> magicmike: you have a broadband connection, right?
[12:02] <paulo> ok that is now done
[12:02] <jende> magicmike: if so, can you ping your router? in a console type ping <ipofyourrouter>
[12:02] <jende> paulo: saved it?
[12:02] <paulo> yes
[12:03] <jende> paulo: close kate then
[12:03] <paulo> done
[12:03] <jende> paulo: do a sudo route on the console
[12:03] <paulo> jende: eh?
[12:04] <paulo> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:04] <paulo> 83.147.165.0    *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[12:04] <paulo> default         83.147.165.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:04] <paulo> i'm going to do a fresh install again
[12:04] <jende> paulo: that looks alright; as long as the Ip for Dest/GW are correct
[12:05] <jende> paulo: don't give up
[12:05] <magicmike> Network is unreachable.
[12:05] <paulo> ok i have a major headache over this
[12:05] <jende> paulo: reboot the machine and after you rebooted do again a less /etc/resolv.conf
[12:05] <jende> magicmike: so, your internal net doesn't work either
[12:07] <jende> magicmike: I just read on a german site, that one had to rebuilt his acx almost every day and he did get unfortunately the same errors as you get
[12:07] <jende> magicmike: that acx thingy seems to be damn buggy
[12:08] <magicmike> Well, I can screw this wireless setup because I have a wired ethernet also but that doesn't show up either.
[12:08] <magicmike> Should I shutdown, pop the card out and see what gives?
[12:08] <jende> magicmike: yes, please
[12:09] <magicmike> Stay tuned. LOL
[12:09] <jende> magicmike: surrrrre
[12:12] <birge> hi all
[12:14] <jende> birge: howdy
[12:15] <birge> try to learn about linux
[12:15] <birge> i never used it before
[12:16] <jende> birge: good, keep learning
[12:19] <birge> i will
[12:19] <huhmz> neither gdm nor kdm nor startx can start my xserver, i don't know what to do
[12:20] <jende> huhmz: reconfiguer your X
[12:20] <magicmike> jende: Okay. I'm using a wired network card. NE2000 Compatible ISAPNP Ethernet Adapter How to we configure this?
[12:20] <jende> magicmike: sudo modprobe ne2000
[12:20] <huhmz> jende: doesn't work
[12:21] <huhmz> it is some bug with the upgrade to edgy
[12:21] <jende> huhmz: there is no bug known re X
[12:21] <jende> huhmz: unless you have installed beryl
[12:22] <magicmike> Not found. LOL
[12:22] <huhmz> i have not
[12:22] <magicmike> II figured as much.
[12:23] <jende> huhmz: basically, I have 3 boxes here running od edgy and no probs at all. How did you upgrade?using apt? any errors;like unmet dependencies?
[12:23] <huhmz> bug 59242 seems to be related
[12:24] <huhmz> i did apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:24] <jende> huhmz: and apt-get update before?
[12:24] <huhmz> yes
[12:24] <jende> huhmz: and no apt-get update before?
[12:24] <huhmz> apt-get update before always
[12:24] <jende> huhmz: pastebin your sources
[12:24] <huhmz> cant get to pastebin atm, im in console
[12:25] <jende> magicmike: sudo find /etc/ -name ne2000
[12:25] <huhmz> can i query you?
[12:25] <jende> huhmz: have to change therefor quickly the ID ;)
[12:26] <huhmz> crap, something didnt work
[12:26] <jende_> huhmz: now you can
[12:26] <magicmike> Jende: returned to prompt
[12:27] <jende_> magicmike: just the prompt?
[12:27] <magicmike> Yup
[12:31] <magicmike> Is there a place that tells you what hardware actually is recognized/works with Linux?
[12:31] <jende_> magicmike: yes there is
[12:32] <magicmike> It just seems like you spend so much time trying to get this stuff to work, you can't enjoy your computer.
[12:32] <flaccid> thats linux for ya
[12:34] <huhmz> jende_: i think there might be a problem that i didn't have the ubuntu-base package installed when i upgraded, did you see that bug i posted?
[12:35] <Danhul> hi there
[12:35] <jende_> magicmike: modprobe ne
[12:35] <jende_> huhmz: nope, havent sees your posting as yet
[12:35] <Danhul> since I updated edgy yesterday sudo doesn't work anymore - the /etc/sudoers is empty. What can I do?
[12:35] <jende_> flaccid: howdy
[12:35] <huhmz> jende_bug 59242
[12:36] <paulo> back
[12:36] <paulo> after fresh install and am installing firefix
[12:36] <paulo> *firefox
[12:37] <jende_> paulo: so your prob seems to be soolved, though
[12:38] <paulo> through a fresh install, for a second time!
[12:38] <paulo> jende_: thanks you for your help anyway!
[12:38] <jende_> huhmz: would you mind posting me quickly the whole URL to your Bug still can't find iit
[12:39] <jende_> magicmike: what tells you a modprobe ne ?
[12:39] <magicmike> Error inserting 8390 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/839 0.ko): Operation not permitted Fatal:Error inserting NE (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ne.ko}: Operation not permitted
[12:40] <huhmz> jende_: launchpad.net/bugs/59242
[12:40] <jende_> magicmike: what tells you asudo modprobe ne ?
[12:41] <magicmike> asudo says command not found. Sudo reurns me to the prompt.
[12:43] <lipe_pe> I got an error, that says "Su returned an error" when I am going to access as root... What should I do, please ?!?!
[12:44] <jende_> magicmike: what tells you a 'sudo modprobe ne' ?
[12:44] <Jucato> jende_: ping?
[12:45] <jende_> huhmz: have you made since your postings any updates/upgrades, maybe yesterday to rc1?
[12:45] <jende_> Jucato: pong!
[12:45] <Jucato> jende_: sorry for running off so suddenly...
[12:45] <lipe_pe> I got an error, that says "Su returned an error" when I am going to access as root... What should I do, please ?!?!
[12:45] <Jucato> everyone was calling me for dinner... :(
[12:45] <jende_> Jucato: fair enough
[12:45] <huhmz> jende_: i made the upgrade last night, didnt boot until this morning, i have done more dist-upgrade since
[12:46] <Jucato> was paulo's problem solved?
[12:46] <jende_> lipe_pe: su is not the appropriate cmd to become root
[12:46] <jende_> huhmz: hmmm...???
[12:47] <jende_> Jucato: he gave up and reinstalled
[12:47] <Jucato> oh... did he try the DNS I gave?
[12:47] <jende_> Jucato: nope
[12:47] <Jucato> oh... that's not good...
[12:47] <lipe_pe> jende_: ok, but when i click to became administrator in somewhere, or when i'm opening adept, for example, it apears it, and do not load the application ...
[12:47] <Jucato> coz I almost had the same problem as his. and opendns solved it for me. it's an ISP issue I think...
[12:48] <jende_> Jucato: it would have helped as all his NS werde dead anyway, so....
[12:49] <Jucato> I'd say that it's his ISP then. specially if it behaves the same way in XP
[12:49] <jende_> lipe_pe: if you open adept, which I hate personally hate to use, you'll be asked to enter the password
[12:49] <jende_> lipe_pe: right? what message do you get once you entered your password
[12:49] <Jucato> lol
[12:50] <Jucato> love that side comment :)
[12:50] <jende_> Jucato: i hate adept it's in my opinion as useless as yast and all that crap.
[12:51] <Jucato> well, it's not 100% useless... :P
[12:51] <Jucato> it works sometimes hehehe
[12:51] <lipe_pe> jende_: i can't enter my pass... i just apears it ...
[12:51] <jende_> Jucato: but apt and aptitude and dpkg works always
[12:51] <jende_> lipe_pe: whats your native language?
[12:52] <jende_> magicmike: ???
[12:52] <Jucato> jende_: yes. but some people would prefer to use a GUI app if possible. (There's also a "GUI" alternative to dpkg, btw)
[12:53] <lipe_pe> jende_: portuguese
[12:53] <jende_> !po
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Jucato> !pt
[12:53] <jende_> !portuguese
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portuguese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:53] <Jucato> :P
[12:53] <jende_> Jucato: *ggg*
[12:54] <lipe_pe> jende_: if i delete the root user, how can i add it again ... ?!
[12:54] <Jucato> lipe_pe: there shouldn't be a root user by default
[12:56] <jende_> magicmike: where are you?
[12:56] <lipe_pe> Jucato: i just deluser root ... and now i cant use "sudo" ... :p
[12:56] <micra> Hi, I have been messing around with my root-user, and i think that i have changed the password. Somehow i cannot enter Adept, and i get the following message when I enter my password: "Conversation with su failed", how do i fix this?
[12:57] <magicmike> Yea, I'm here. I'm going to go try another Linux version and see how I make out. Maybe Mandriva or Suse.
[12:57] <Jucato> oh here we go again...
[12:57] <arejaytee> google should buy ubuntu!
[12:58] <magicmike> Just research them now.
[12:58] <jende_> magicmike: neither mandriva nor SuSE I would recommend
[12:58] <magicmike> researching I mean.
[12:58] <Jucato> I find it *amusing* that 2 people having the same problems because of the same reason :P
[12:58] <arejaytee> they didnt have the computer turned on?
[12:58] <Jucato> arejaytee: hehe funny :P
[12:59] <jende_> magicmike: what gave you a sudo modprobe ne, though
[12:59] <magicmike> Well, this seems to work fine until you update. Then crash.....
[12:59] <magicmike> Back to the prompt
[12:59] <paulo> anyone here have ssh running on port 443?
[12:59] <arejaytee> gubuntu!!!!
[12:59] <arejaytee> rofl
[01:00] <bmo_> why have ssh running on 443?
[01:00] <jende_> magicmike: then look up if the module got loaded using lsmod
[01:00] <martin__> ssh is 22
[01:00] <paulo> to access from work as 22 is blocked
[01:00] <Jucato> arejaytee: correctionl. Goobuntu :)
[01:00] <arejaytee> haha nice
[01:00] <bmo_> to keep it out of the bots
[01:01] <Jucato> arejaytee: actually they are using customized versions of Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) in house. afaik
[01:01] <jende_> bmo_: hehehe
[01:01] <arejaytee> ive heard the before too somewhere
[01:01] <paulo> bmo_: but do you need to change iptables?
[01:01] <arejaytee> the=that
[01:01] <bmo_> no
[01:01] <magicmike> I see an ne  7620 used by 0 listing
[01:01] <bmo_> you edit the config file
[01:01] <paulo> yeah sshd_config
[01:01] <Jucato> jende_: I have to go again
[01:01] <magicmike> 7620 being the size
[01:01] <Jucato> so suddenly...
[01:02] <jende_> Jucato: see ya later and take care
[01:02] <bmo_> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:02] <klerfayt> how to create symlink of folder /x in /y ?
[01:02] <bmo_> change the line "Port 22" to whatever number strikes your fancy
[01:02] <jende_> magicmike: what gives you a ifconfig?is there a device eth0?
[01:03] <paulo> over 1024
[01:03] <intelikey> 479
[01:03] <intelikey> :)
[01:03] <intelikey> 6667   lol
[01:03] <jende_> intelikey: howdy
[01:03] <intelikey> jende_ :)
[01:04] <intelikey> hey who knows something about dosemu ?
[01:04] <jende_> nnot me
[01:04] <sacha_> ln -s /y /x  klerfayt
[01:04] <bmo_> what's to know?  you type it and you use emulated dos
[01:04] <B-Minus> hello all
[01:04] <intelikey> Sorry, there is no operating system.
[01:04] <intelikey> Please try to install FreeDOS from dosemu-freedos.
[01:05] <bmo_> oh
[01:05] <bmo_> well
[01:05] <B-Minus> what repositeries shall i add to my sources.list for getting kde 3.5.5 ?
[01:05] <flaccid> install the package dosemu-freedos
[01:05] <flaccid> i found dosbox better :)
[01:05] <intelikey> bmo_ where is it looking for the os
[01:05] <intelikey> flaccid i don't want freedos  i have dos.
[01:06] <flaccid> oh sorry
[01:06] <flaccid> i think you change it in the .conf then
[01:06] <magicmike> It gives me my inet address and same info as when working on the wireless. I pinged the inet address and it is continually pinging.How do I stop the pinging?
[01:07] <intelikey> i failed to find it.    i thought it just had a symlink in ~/.dosemu/   but i don't see one.
[01:07] <flaccid> magicmike: ctrl+c
[01:07] <intelikey> flaccid you have a working dosemu ?
[01:07] <magicmike> Okay.
[01:07] <flaccid> intelikey: yeah with freedos but
[01:07] <bmo_> http://www.drdos.net/download.htm
[01:07] <intelikey> would you check ~/.dosemu/ for a symlink please ?
[01:08] <flaccid> there is no symlink
[01:08] <jende_> magicmike: did it look like this 64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.51 ms ?
[01:08] <intelikey> not in run/ or anywhere ?????
[01:08] <flaccid> nope
[01:08] <magicmike> No the inet address was 127.0.0.1
[01:08] <intelikey> well they've totally messed it up i guess..
[01:09] <jende_> magicmike: so, you said ping without a destination, I guess
[01:09] <intelikey> used to be one.     hehhe it used to run a config script the first run also, which let you specify path to dos
[01:09] <jende_> magicmike: however, lets see if we can configure eth0
[01:10] <magicmike> 127.0.0.1 ping statistics 183 packets transmitted, 183 received , 0% loss, time182018ms
[01:10] <jende_> magicmike: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.101
[01:10] <jende_> magicmike: whats the result?
[01:11] <Ayabara> hi guys. I'm installing kubuntu in a dual boot system today. I have 16GB free. How should I split it between swap, root and home? I have 1GB ram, and I will not be storing any big files (music,video) in my home directory.
[01:13] <magicmike> Well, the net address that shows as my domain name servers returns no Reuslt is ping 192.168.2.101 (192.168.2.101) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:13] <intelikey> bmo_ ?
[01:13] <jende_> magicmike: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.101
[01:14] <magicmike> Sorry my domain name server continually pings the one you gave me gives those results.
[01:14] <bmo_> intelikey, I looked to install dosemu and it's not there
[01:14] <bmo_> only dosbox
[01:14] <jende_> magicmike: or sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.9
[01:14] <deadsoul_> How to set double click to select open a file intead of one click?
[01:14] <jende_> magicmike: stop the ping
[01:14] <deadsoul_> How to set double click to open a file intead of one click?*
[01:14] <intelikey> bmo_ eft ?
[01:14] <bmo_> no, dapper
[01:14] <intelikey> yeah it's there.  i installed it.
[01:15] <intelikey> !info dosemu
[01:15] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[01:15] <magicmike> Returns to prompt
[01:15] <jende_> magicmike: good
[01:15] <magicmike> If you say so.
[01:16] <bmo_> Package dosemu is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:16] <intelikey> bmo_ see ubotu ^
[01:16] <jende_> magicmike: now, we've got to tell your ne200 where the router is. sudo route add default gw <ipofyourrouter>
[01:17] <deadsoul_> How to set double click to open a file intead of one click?
[01:17] <intelikey> deadsoul_ kcontrol
[01:17] <bmo_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[01:17] <bmo_> I _have_ multiverse
[01:17] <jende_> !paste
[01:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:18] <deadsoul_> Thanks a lot intelikey
[01:18] <intelikey> bmo_ me and flaccid had no trubble apt getting it....
[01:19] <intelikey> deadsoul_ it's in there.  i don't recall where in there but i know it's in there.
[01:19] <magicmike> I get network is unreachable.
[01:19] <prophit> gm world
[01:19] <jende_> magicmike: doing what? gave you network is unreachable?
[01:19] <deadsoul_> Yeah intelikey its in mouse section. I did it. Thanks a lot
[01:19] <bmo_> I have dapper-updates multiverse, dapper-backports multiverse, dapper multiverse, and the source repositories and the dapper-security multiverse.  if I don't have a multiverse, it doesn't exist. :-P
[01:20] <arejaytee> should i upgrade to edgy through dist-upgrade?
[01:20] <magicmike> sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[01:20] <intelikey> bmo_ :)
[01:21] <intelikey> apt-cache search dosemu
[01:21] <intelikey> dosemu - The Linux DOS Emulator
[01:21] <intelikey> dosemu-freedos - FreeDOS package for DOSEMU
[01:21] <intelikey> xfonts-dosemu - VGA font for the DOS Emulator
[01:22] <bmo_> apt-cache search dosemu
[01:22] <bmo_> console-cyrillic - Better Cyrillic support for Linux console
[01:22] <bmo_> xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings
[01:22] <bmo_> xfonts-dosemu - VGA font for the DOS Emulator
[01:23] <jende_> magicmike: I just had a call from a client, will you be here in an hour?
[01:23] <magicmike> I don't know. Maybe. This Linux stuff is giving me a headache.
[01:24] <intelikey> magicmike you can always ask in #ubuntu   if no one in here can help you.
[01:24] <bmo_> it is giving me a headache right about now, but dosbox works flawlessly, more or less. hahahahahaha
[01:24] <jende_> magicmike: when I'm back I'll be fixing your ne2000
[01:24] <magicmike> I'm going to install another version of Linux and see what results I get. MAybe it'll like my hardware better.
[01:24] <intelikey> bmo_ not from a console it don't   dosbox
[01:24] <intelikey> Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device
[01:24] <magicmike> Thanks, jende.
[01:24] <intelikey> bmo_ dosbox depends on X
[01:24] <lunitik> magicmike: if Ubuntu doesn't like your hardware... no other distro will
[01:25] <magicmike> Well, sounds like I'm stuff with Billionaire Bill then.
[01:25] <lunitik> magicmike: what hardware issues are you having? I just got here... sorry
[01:26] <bmo_> intelikey, what dapper mirror do you use?
[01:26] <intelikey> venella
[01:26] <magicmike> Well, things work fine until I do the damn updates. Then both my networking options are knocked out.
[01:26] <magicmike> I removed my wireless and went to a wired card and still the devices can't be found.
[01:27] <magicmike> That's it in a nutshell.
[01:27] <klerfayt> how to associate "rtsp" protocol in firefox with vlc? I got w32codecs and firefox-vlc-plugin installed allready
[01:27] <bmo_> intelikey: venella.ubuntu.com?
[01:27] <bmo_> oh, wait
[01:27] <intelikey> bmo_ i'll post my sources.list for you.
[01:27] <bmo_> I think I know why
[01:27] <lunitik> magicmike: so you updated kernel, without updating ndiswrapper and expected things to still work?
[01:27] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[01:27] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[01:27] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[01:27] <bmo_> intelekey: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:27] <intelikey> that's the whole file.
[01:27] <magicmike> I'm using I did as instructed.
[01:27] <lunitik> magicmike: what wired NIC are you using?
[01:28] <intelikey> 32     yeah you have 64   hah
[01:28] <magicmike> Sorry I did as instructed.
[01:28] <bmo_> that's why
[01:28] <bmo_> no dosemu for me
[01:28] <magicmike> I'm now using NE2000 compat card.
[01:29] <intelikey> bmo_ heh according to the manpage on it dosemu doesn't fully support 32 bit yet   lol
[01:29] <jende_> lunitik: a ne2000 isapnp
[01:29] <magicmike> Yup
[01:29] <jende_> see ya all
[01:29] <magicmike> Take it easy.
[01:29] <intelikey> c ya
[01:29] <jende_> have to run
[01:29] <micra> Hi, i know my root password, but when i try to get root-access it doesnt work.
[01:29] <intelikey> c++ ya
[01:29] <bmo_> most cards are ne2000 compat.  I have set up many windows machines by just telling them that the driver is ne1000/ne2000.  not surprised that the trick works in linux
[01:30] <insparedes> !es
[01:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:30] <intelikey> micra when did you set a "root" password ?
[01:30] <intelikey> !root
[01:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:31] <lunitik> magicmike: sorry for the delay... 'lspci | grep Ethernet' ... what does this return?
[01:31] <bmo_> oh, I've had the same problem that Micra has, and it was a weird fix
[01:32] <intelikey> bmo_ root password   or borked sudo  ?
[01:32] <bmo_> suddenly sudo quit working
[01:32] <lunitik> magicmike: should return two values... your wireless and wired NIC (unless you removed one card)
[01:32] <intelikey> yeah sudo != root password
[01:32] <bmo_> baking /etc/hosts bakes PAM
[01:33] <lunitik> magicmike: ISA is a pita, its old technology, so no one really pays attention to it anymore
[01:33] <intelikey> no only sudo
[01:33] <magicmike> I removed the wireless.
[01:33] <micra> intelikey: i was messing around with the root user and i think i changed the password. It shows the message "converstion with su failed", when i try to enter adept or administrator mode
[01:33] <lunitik> magicmike: ok... what does the command return?
[01:34] <intelikey> micra do this in a konsole      sudo echo working!
[01:34] <magicmike> I can shut down and put it back in.  I'm getting command not found so let me double check my typing.
[01:34] <lunitik> magicmike: copy and paste from konsole is fine... just show me the result of the command
[01:34] <bmo_> sudo passwd
[01:34] <bmo_> set new password
[01:35] <lunitik> magicmike: you have a typo... lspci is definitely a command  :)
[01:35] <paul__> when i select to share a folder the options are grayed out? how do I edit them?
[01:35] <lunitik> as is grep
[01:35] <intelikey> bmo_ lets see if sudo is working first shall we
[01:35] <micra> Nothing happens when i try to write sudo, it seems like it is "locked"?
[01:36] <intelikey> micra ok.   do this     groups | grep admin
[01:36] <magicmike> command not found.
[01:36] <micra> It locks whenever i write my root-password (or what i think it is), and i have to restart the computer before it gets unlocked
[01:37] <magicmike> with the ' included?
[01:37] <intelikey> micra do you know the differance in a root password and using sudo ?
[01:37] <micra> intelikey: in console or?
[01:37] <micra> intelikey: no? im newb :-)
[01:37] <insparedes> como instalar wine en kubuntu?
[01:37] <intelikey> that's what i thought.
[01:38] <intelikey> now micra yes in konsole
[01:38] <paul__> is samba installed by default?
[01:38] <intelikey> see if you are in the admin group
[01:38] <intelikey> paul__ no
[01:38] <intelikey> !samba
[01:38] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:38] <paul__> oh no wonder :/
[01:38] <lunitik> magicmike: no... just lspci | grep Ethernet ... copy and paste
[01:38] <magicmike> IT returns to the prompt. IT only works without the ' symbols removed. Being a newb some commands use that symbol.
[01:39] <micra> intelikey it shows this: micra adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scann
[01:39] <intelikey> hmmm ok
[01:39] <magicmike> I can't copy and paste. I have no internet access on that computer and I'm going from another machine to the one that has the linux on it.
[01:39] <intelikey> micra do this in the konsole     cat /etc/sudoers
[01:40] <intelikey> and see if it has a line starting with adm
[01:40] <micra> intelikey: cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[01:40] <intelikey> ok
[01:41] <flaccid> anyone know of a list of packages to remove/things to do to cut down a kubuntu desktop install to a server install
[01:41] <intelikey> micra i'm thinking you will have to add your self to  the  "admin"   group.        someone that uses sudo can confirm or refute that.
[01:41] <ironcladlou> My Belkin Wireless G PCMCIA card appears in lspci and during Kubuntu 6.11rc install, but is not visible to ifconfig, iwconfig, the network control panel, or KNetworkManager. It worked fine in 6.06. Any ideas?
[01:42] <intelikey> flaccid cat sudoers for me and see if they still use group "admin"  ?
[01:42] <ironcladlou> 6.10rc, rather
[01:42] <magicmike> lunatik: You still with me?
[01:42] <Electrolyte> Hmmmm, Iceweasel isn't bad.
[01:42] <flaccid> intelikey: aint finished install yet
[01:43] <bmo_> they do, intelikey %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:43] <flaccid> huh
[01:43] <flaccid> this is not for me
[01:43] <intelikey> !wifi > ironcladlou
[01:43] <flaccid> oh
[01:43] <intelikey> bmo_ ty
[01:43] <magicmike> ironcladlou: I've been having the same prob.
[01:43] <intelikey> flaccid ty anyway.
[01:43] <magicmike> !wifi
[01:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:43] <bmo_> but, intelikey, if he set a root password, even if he types sudo, his own password is no good, he has to type the (now unknown) root password
[01:44] <ironcladlou> magicmike: with the same card?
[01:44] <bmo_> even if he is in the admin group
[01:44] <intelikey> ok micra  you need to boot to recovery mode and   or use a live cd   to fix your problem.      you have to be in the admin group.
[01:44] <ironcladlou> intelikey: I know where the wifi docs are. This seems like some sort of bug.
[01:44] <paul__> hmm I installed Samba and still the share options are grayed out
[01:44] <magicmike> Mine is a US Robotics or Tex Inst acx 100 chipset.
[01:44] <intelikey> ironcladlou ok.
[01:45] <micra> intelikey: how do I add myself to the admin group from the recovery console?
[01:45] <intelikey> micra you can edit /etc/group  and  add your user name to the "admin"   line.
[01:45] <ironcladlou> magicmike: i have a forum topic going with no resolution yet at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1643793
[01:45] <magicmike> I did all that stuff that is on the wifidocs site. It's about rebuilding your drivers. I was halfway through when it wouldn't complete because I needed internet access to download the make package.
[01:46] <bmo_> http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F
[01:46] <intelikey> micra  nano is a command line text editor that is installed by default.
[01:46] <ironcladlou> magicmike: and yours worked fine in 6.06 also?
[01:46] <intelikey> bmo_ does that doc detail fixing sudo ?
[01:47] <ironcladlou> magicmike: one thing i haven't tried is installing without the card inserted
[01:47] <magicmike> it worked without a problem in 6.06. When I shut down after the updates, it wouldn't show any internet connection devices.
[01:47] <magicmike> If the cards not inserted how are you going to access the net?
[01:47] <micra> intelikey: i know what nano is, but what file schould i open whith it?
[01:48] <intelikey> micra nano /etc/group        will be the command.
[01:48] <magicmike> I unplugged, booted and shutdown. Replugged, booted and same result. Does not show.
[01:48] <ironcladlou> magicmike: ot
[01:48] <ironcladlou> oops
[01:48] <micra> intelikey: okay, what schould i do after that? Remember im newbie :-)
[01:49] <ironcladlou> magicmike: its a laptop. it has internal LAN and WLAN (WEP only though). i need the pcmcia card for WPA. i have it conected to the wired network at the moment
[01:49] <intelikey> look for admin:x:33:some,names,here        and add your name.
[01:49] <intelikey> the 33 is a guess could be any number.
[01:50] <intelikey> note the comma seperated list of names
[01:50] <intelikey> could be blank.  but you need in it.
[01:51] <micra> intelikey: it has to be through recovery konsole?
[01:51] <intelikey> micro you have to have write permission
[01:51] <intelikey> how are you going to get it ?
[01:51] <bmo_> !paste
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[01:51] <magicmike> Got disconnected.
[01:52] <bmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/
[01:52] <micra> intelikey: i don't know? :) Through recovery konsole? :-)
[01:52] <bubu1uk> i have problem with ssh on kubuntu. when i use midnight commander it doesnt show properly. any1 knows how to solve this problem?
[01:53] <bmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/ (for micra and intelikey)
[01:53] <magicmike> Ironcladlou: Only thing I can suggest is don't update after 6.06. Let me know if you get your problem resolved.
[01:53] <intelikey> micro i know of three ways without really working over a hack  to secure root access to a box that you don't have a root password nor root jr. privilages.   1. a recovery console   2. a live cd    3. using init=/bin/sh  at the boot prompt.     notice #3 is not for the newbee.
[01:53] <ironcladlou> magicmike: not exactly the preferable answer :D
[01:54] <ironcladlou> magicmike: i am downloading ubuntu6.10rc right now to make sure it's something in the base distro and not kubuntu specific
[01:54] <magicmike> Yea, I know but I've gone through this about 3 times.
[01:54] <ironcladlou> magicmike: you tried ubuntu?
[01:55] <micra> intelikey: okay, ill use recovery console
[01:55] <magicmike> Same problem in both. I was using Ubuntu until yesterday when I installed Kubuntu.
[01:55] <intelikey> bmo_ nano and the sudoers file......  ;S
[01:56] <ironcladlou> crap
[01:56] <magicmike> Just gotta get lucky and find someone who knows how to resolve this problem.
[01:56] <magicmike> so far no luck.
[01:56] <intelikey> bmo_ i hope no one in here is giving that advice.    visudo   is the prefered way.
[01:56] <ironcladlou> what other channels have you asked in?
[01:57] <magicmike> Ubunt also.
[01:57] <magicmike> #ubuntu I meant.
[01:57] <simse> hey intelikey. this is micra from another com
[01:57] <intelikey> bmo_ visudo checks the syntax on exit.   nano wont.
[01:58] <simse> Im going into recovery console now
[01:58] <ironcladlou> magicmike:  have you asked this morning in there?
[01:58] <intelikey> simse yeah.
[01:58] <intelikey> k
[01:58] <bmo_> ah
[01:58] <bmo_> ok
[01:58] <ironcladlou> i'll go try anyway, just in case
[01:58] <intelikey> bmo_ also the sudoers file is not what is broke.  you just need in the group.
[01:58] <magicmike> I'm there now. Good luck.
[01:59] <bmo_> is it really 8am?
[01:59] <ulinskie> how can I get build essentials in kubuntu?
[01:59] <intelikey> new england time
[01:59] <klerfayt> what is the difference between "kvlc" and "qvlc" package?
[02:00] <ironcladlou> magicmike: i am referencing you as a "friend" in my plea for help :)
[02:00] <intelikey> read the info on them klerfayt
[02:00] <simse> Im in the etc/group now
[02:00] <simse> How do I add my self?
[02:00] <klerfayt> intelikey: oops - "The kvlc package has been discontinued"
[02:00] <intelikey> klerfayt in adept   or cli   apt-cache show <package-name>       for more info.
[02:01] <intelikey> klerfayt xvlc  ?
[02:01] <klerfayt> intelikey: that's why I didn't see difference (they are discontinued) I fought I will get nice interface with kvlc
[02:01] <bmo_> adm:x:4:bmo  <---my adm group.  I assume that micra put his username in the obvious place
[02:01] <ulinskie> how can I get build essentials in kubuntu?
[02:01] <simse> intelikey Im in the etc/group now
[02:02] <intelikey> oooops  i mean  wxvlc
[02:02] <bmo_> admin:x:111:bmo
[02:02] <intelikey> yep.   if bmo    is the user name that you want to be root jr.
[02:02] <simse> intelikey it says "root:x:0:" and further down "adm:x:4:micra"
[02:03] <intelikey> simse "admin"
[02:03] <simse> intelikey there is now admin, only adm ???
[02:03] <binks> fdoving thanks i got the access point working :)
[02:04] <bmo_> my username is in adm, dialout (haha) cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, myself, and admin
[02:04] <intelikey> well add it.     admin:x:111:micra
[02:04] <simse> allr right then
[02:04] <zarrelli> hi
[02:04] <bmo_> alo
[02:05] <simse> It is done
[02:05] <intelikey> bmo_ i did a box that way one time.    put me in all groups... :)
[02:05] <simse> and saved!
[02:05] <epalissad> I can't open folders or trash-bin it says: KDEInit could not launch '/home/myuser. can someone help me, I haven't found anything on google.
[02:05] <simse> should it work now?
[02:05] <bmo_> try it, simse
[02:05] <intelikey> should work now.
[02:05] <intelikey> simse you can issue a command to test it.
[02:05] <simse> bmo_ ok Im rebooting now
[02:05] <bmo_> wait
[02:05] <intelikey> simse you can issue a command to test it.
[02:06] <bmo_> don't reboot, just do it
[02:06] <simse> it is allready rebooting
[02:06] <intelikey> simse you can issue a command to test it.
[02:06] <intelikey> :)
[02:06] <simse> I heard you :-)
[02:06] <intelikey> but rebooting don't hurt, i guess....
[02:06] <simse> great
[02:06] <bmo_> sudo echo IT LIVES!! IT LIVES!!
[02:07] <intelikey> *NOTICE* this is not tht M$ reboot opperating system.
[02:07] <simse> what?
[02:08] <intelikey> we just change runlevels,  we don't reboot.
[02:08] <bmo_> simse: unlike windows, you dont' have to reboot linux every time you make a change
[02:08] <bmo_> really, the only time to reboot is power failure or a new kernel. heh.
[02:08] <simse> bmo_ intelikey IT MOTCHERFUCKINGWORK!
[02:08] <JosefK> although, interestingly, reboot _is_ a runlevel
[02:08] <simse> WORKS!
[02:09] <bmo_> MOTCHER?
[02:09] <simse> THANKS GUYS!
[02:09] <klerfayt> bmo_: I think you don't have to reboot windows either
[02:09] <simse> THANKS GUYS!
[02:09] <bmo_> what'ss a motcher?
[02:09] <bmo_> heh
[02:09] <intelikey> !language
[02:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:09] <simse> thank you
[02:09] <intelikey> you welcome
[02:09] <simse> I love u
[02:09] <intelikey> you'll get over it.
[02:09] <bmo_> haha
[02:10] <klerfayt> !stereotype
[02:10] <simse> haha
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stereotype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <VincentMX> does kubuntu take use of my new 5.1 Dolby Surround set?
[02:10] <bmo_> !how to win the war on drugs, terrorism, and democrats
[02:10] <intelikey> !spelling
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to win the war on drugs, terrorism, and democrats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <intelikey> klerfayt that ^ is the problem
[02:12] <intelikey> veni vidi clicky
[02:13] <ironcladlou> magicmike: did you see? it solved the problem
[02:15] <Putero> hi, somebody know a similar program to SurMix2 for my soundblaster sound card? because i have a Audigy2 with proffesional sound for work, and under linux this card sound like a simple card integrated on mother board
[02:33] <JohnFlux> !nvidia
[02:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <JohnFlux> ! nvidia
[02:33] <JohnFlux> % nvidia
[02:33] <zorglu_> q. i got a dapper on 2.6.15-26-386, and it just trashed (aka disk active all the time and no more answering ping), i rebooted and /var/log/message is full of oom-killer, is there a way to determine the source of this ?
[02:35] <JohnFlux> Errhttp://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[02:35] <JohnFlux>   Bad header line [IP: 195.248.90.54 80] 
[02:35] <JohnFlux> i keep getting this sort of error message
[02:35] <JohnFlux> when I do apt-get update
[02:35] <JohnFlux> anyone know why?
[02:36] <zorglu_> seems like a issue with the server
[02:36] <JohnFlux> anyone know  a good mirror I can use from the uk?
[02:37] <fdoving> JohnFlux: try se. it is usally fast from everywhere.
[02:37] <zorglu_> fr.archive.ubuntu.com seems to works
[02:38] <zorglu_> uk.archive.ubuntu.com is the same as archive.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <fdoving> uk is archive
[02:39] <onkeltuca> hi folks!
[02:40] <onkeltuca> i am tryinng to install acpi drivers for my notebook (acer aspire 5020)
[02:40] <onkeltuca> i installed all the linux headers etc...
[02:40] <onkeltuca> but the "make" doesnt work
[02:44] <onkeltuca> hi ho....does any body read?
[02:45] <onkeltuca> anybody there?
[02:45] <Tm_T> onkeltuca: No we don't read. ;)
[02:45] <onkeltuca> hehe
[02:45] <onkeltuca> have some trouble with my laptop...
[02:46] <onkeltuca> :)
[02:46] <onkeltuca> does anybody now hoe to install acpi drvier correctly
[02:47] <flaccid> how can i do an apt-get remove and ignore packages that are not installed
[02:47] <onkeltuca> install them before removal
[02:47] <flaccid> eg sudo apt-get remove telnet ivman <--- ivman not installed, so ignore
[02:48] <flaccid> onkeltuca: i'm looking for an ignore switch
[02:48] <onkeltuca> kk
[02:48] <abattoir> onkeltuca:
[02:48] <zorglu_> flaccid: naively why do you add it if you want to ignore it ?
[02:48] <abattoir> onkeltuca: what doesn't work?
[02:48] <abattoir> onkeltuca: i have a similar laptop, acpi works fine here
[02:49] <flaccid> because i am removing kubuntu-desktop packages
[02:50] <JohnFlux> flaccid: for f in telnet ivman; do sudo apt-get remove $f; done
[02:50] <JohnFlux> ;-)
[02:50] <onkeltuca> i downloaded some acer
[02:50] <onkeltuca> acpi driver...
[02:50] <zorglu_> JohnFlux put a smiley but i would do the same as i suggest
[02:50] <onkeltuca> #read the f m
[02:50] <onkeltuca> installed sources copmilers etc..
[02:51] <onkeltuca> but the makefile doesnt work
[02:51] <cyberquiet> I got a couple of problems upgrading to kde 3.5.5...
[02:51] <abattoir> onkeltuca: mmm, you still haven't answered my question... why do you need to compile one when there is a binary? do you need to get something working? if so what?
[02:52] <onkeltuca> where do i get the binary
[02:53] <alain> can anyone explain me why Bug #30207 is so difficult to fix   - for me it seems to be an (auto) configuration problem
[02:55] <zorglu_> alain: url ?
[02:55] <onkeltuca> abattoir: where do i get the binary
[02:55] <abattoir> onkeltuca: it should already be installed... for the last time, why are you looking for it?
[02:55] <magicmike> Is there a way to extract the linux-restricted-modules or linux-generic from the cd and place it somewhere that the install program can find it? I'm trying to get the system to recognize and install my  networking.
[02:56] <alain> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/30207
[02:56] <abattoir> magicmike: yup, look under the pool dir.(iirc) in the cd
[02:56] <abattoir> magicmike: you have the dapper live cd?
[02:57] <magicmike> Kubuntu Version 6.06 LTS
[02:57] <onkeltuca> abattoir: well. actually i cant get my wireless card get working and i have no opengl
[02:57] <abattoir> onkeltuca: which card?
[02:57] <abattoir> onkeltuca: broadcom?
[02:57] <onkeltuca> abattoir: yes
[02:58] <abattoir> !wireless
[02:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <onkeltuca> abttoir: i tried ndiswrapper
[02:58] <abattoir> onkeltuca: and...?
[02:58] <onkeltuca> but the problem is that the card is deactivated
[02:58] <magicmike> What's the command for ndiswrapper?
[02:58] <onkeltuca> it has no power
[02:58] <onkeltuca> new acpidriver should fix this
[03:00] <cyberquiet> what is the most appropriate way to report a problem to the packager(s) of kde for kubuntu? launchpad?
[03:00] <onkeltuca> abattoir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Acer5021WLMi_Amd64
[03:00] <klerfayt> is it possible that somewhere is repo with latest&greatest nvidia-glx package?
[03:00] <abattoir> cyberquiet: a bug?
[03:00] <abattoir> !bug
[03:00] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:01] <zorglu_> alain: well it is at least 6month old and has been subject to quite a lot of work, so it doesnt seems that trivial to fix. if you got the fix, i suggest you to contact the developers or even produce the patch
[03:01] <cyberquiet> I'm not sure if its a bug
[03:02] <zorglu_> cyberquiet: talks to packagers on #ubuntu-motu to see what they think
[03:02] <cyberquiet> thanks zorglu_
[03:03] <paul__> I have installed samb but when I right click asnd selct share the options are grayed out, how do I enable those options?
[03:04] <abattoir> onkeltuca: those instructions seem to be for breezy... are you using breezy?
[03:04] <onkeltuca> abattoir: no..dapper
[03:05] <onkeltuca> but shouldnt it work?
[03:05] <abattoir> onkeltuca: i don't think you need those if you are in dapper...
[03:05] <wily> i've a problem launching kismet
[03:05] <wily> anyone can help me?
[03:05] <wily> Failed to set up UI server: TcpServer bind() failed: Address already in use
[03:05] <wily> this is my error
[03:05] <abattoir> onkeltuca: i have a similar laptop, and everything works fine out of the box...
[03:06] <onkeltuca> hmm
[03:06] <paul__> hmm did u put your card in the source section of  kismet.conf ?
[03:06] <wily> yes of course
[03:06] <zorglu_> wily, this mean another apps is using the same address/port
[03:06] <onkeltuca> abattoir: which one do u have? and which distri do u use?
[03:06] <abattoir> onkeltuca: have you had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 ?
[03:06] <wily> doh?!?
[03:06] <wily> what application?
[03:06] <abattoir> onkeltuca: Aspire 5002, i'm on edgy now, but i've had it work in dapper
[03:07] <abattoir> onkeltuca: if you want to use ndiswrapper, then ignore the instructions for bcm43xx
[03:07] <paul__> yah I get same error it seems kismet fails to release tjhe process
[03:07] <zorglu_> wily: find out the address/port kismet try to bind (via config file or strace), then do a netstat -ntlap to get the address/port and the apps listening on it
[03:08] <onkeltuca> abattoir: ..ok... i ll try that... thx a lot so far...
[03:08] <wily> zorglu_:
[03:08] <wily> state listen
[03:08] <abattoir> onkeltuca: np
[03:09] <wily> zen2:
[03:09] <wily> zorglu_: Foreing address 0.0.0.0.
[03:09] <klerfayt> is there an metapackage that allows me to compile kde styles?
[03:09] <zorglu_> wily: i dont understand what you mean
[03:09] <wily> can i call you in pvt
[03:09] <wily> ?
[03:09] <wily> i paste you my log
[03:10] <zorglu_> wily: nope, use pastebin
[03:10] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:10] <paul__> a reboot or kill process seems to work for me, it seems kismet srtill runs in process list even though been shutdown , hence address already in use
[03:10] <wily> ok !pastebin
[03:11] <wily> zorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27666/
[03:11] <zorglu_> lookin
[03:11] <wily> process is the first
[03:12] <zorglu_> hmm seems like my netstat -p doesnt work that well
[03:12] <zen2> whats up wily
[03:13] <wily> kismet don't work
[03:13] <wily> zen2:
[03:13] <zen2> huh
[03:13] <zorglu_> oh ok
[03:13] <zen2> did i miss something
[03:13] <zorglu_> wily: i forgot, you need to be root. aka do "sudo netstat -ntlap"
[03:13] <wily> ok
[03:14] <zorglu_> zen2: i guess a nick completion confusion with me :)
[03:14] <zen2> lol makes edense
[03:14] <zen2> sense
[03:14] <zen2> lol
[03:14] <zen2> that makes sense
[03:15] <wily> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27667/
[03:15] <wily> zorglu_:
[03:15] <zorglu_> 2. tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:2501          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     5324/kismet_server
[03:15] <zorglu_> kismet is already running
[03:16] <wily> how i can close kismetserver?
[03:16] <paul__> told ya it fails to drop process when shutdown
[03:16] <zorglu_> that i dunno :) i dont even know what is kizmet
[03:16] <wily> thank you zorglu_
[03:16] <paul__> so kill in process list or reboot works
[03:16] <zorglu_> the expeditive, but maybe not the wisest, would be "sudo killall kismet_server"
[03:16] <m`kay> is there a namerule in ubuntu???
[03:17] <m`kay> like alphabetical?
[03:17] <wily> ok thank you all
[03:17] <JosefK> does anyone have a dcop command to get Konqueror to update it's plugin index?
[03:17] <paul__> I got a kismet drone running on my wrt54g
[03:18] <wily> paul__: how i can close kismet_server without rebboot?
[03:18] <JosefK> in fact, can anyone communicate with konqueror via dcop at all?  I keep getting "No such application" errors
[03:18] <paul__> I go to process list and kill it there
[03:18] <paul__> <--linux newb
[03:18] <abattoir> JosefK: use 'dcop' to get the name of the konqueror instance
[03:19] <wily> i know it paul__
[03:19] <wily> just killing pid
[03:19] <JosefK> abattoir: ah, thanks, I hoped there'd be a generic 'konqueror' instance running
[03:19] <abattoir> JosefK: its generally konqueror-xxxx where xxxx is a unique no.
[03:19] <wily> but i wold to know if at reboot i have kismet_server running
[03:19] <abattoir> JosefK: no, since you can have different instances of konq. and might want to communicate w/ each differently, each instance has a separate entry
[03:20] <JosefK> abattoir: indeed, I can just grep for an id from dcop or start my own if it isn't there in a script I guess
[03:21] <paul__> it dont run at startup by default unless you set it up to , if thats what your refering to ?
[03:23] <zorglu_> dcop konqueror-* KIO::Scheduler reparseConfiguration "" <- JosefK does this work ? this is from http://www.konqueror.org/faq/
[03:23] <wily> paul__: there are you?
[03:24] <JosefK> zorglu_: alas no, that seems to just reload the configuration, it looks like searching for plugins isn't exposed via dcop
[03:24] <paul__> ?
[03:25] <wily> i can't kill kismet_server process
[03:25] <paul__> then I guess a reboot
[03:25] <m_tadeu> is it possible to add tools to the tool menu in konqueror?
[03:26] <livingdaylight> was it image maggic or image shack?
[03:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: imagemagick ?
[03:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: dunno...
[03:27] <abattoir> livingdaylight: imageshak.us is where you can upload images to share
[03:27] <abattoir> *imageshack.us
[03:27] <livingdaylight> abattoir: thats the one... thx
[03:30] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: use 'kmenuedit'
[03:30] <zorglu_> q. i look for  a url scheme to have an url as parameter for another url ... any hint ?
[03:31] <zorglu_> ohhhh more seriously is there a ubuntu channel for web stuff ?
[03:32] <dhq> !ftp
[03:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[03:32] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: I'm talking about the konqueror->tools menu....the find file entry disapeared
[03:32] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: ah ok, then i dunno
[03:32] <dhq> can any one tell me an ftp server which i can configure grafical
[03:32] <Putero> hi, somebody know a similar program to SurMix2 for my soundblaster sound card? because i have a Audigy2 with proffesional sound for work, and under linux this card sound like a simple card integrated on mother board
[03:32] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: i got the same issue recently, the 'split view left/right' disapeared
[03:32] <dhq> fdoving: ^^
[03:34] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: I think  this happened on the kde355 upgrade
[03:34] <dhq> !gftp
[03:34] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[03:34] <dhq> !ftpd
[03:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[03:34] <dhq> !proftpd
[03:34] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[03:34] <fdoving> dhq: pure-ftpd, get the packages 'pure-ftpd' 'kcmpureftpd' then you can find a pureftpd module in 'kcontrol' (kmenu -> run command 'kcontrol')
[03:35] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: i didnt update, so im my case, this is not that
[03:35] <dhq> fdoving: isnt there any other than pure-ftpd
[03:35] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: I'm googling on that....not much luck
[03:36] <fdoving> dhq: not that i know of. i don't use graphical stuff to configure my ftp servers.
[03:36] <zorglu_> m_tadeu: personnaly i just use a workaround, aka the 'split left/right' being accessible from elsewhere
[03:36] <dhq> fdoving: thanx
[03:36] <dhq> :)
[03:36] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[03:36] <JohnFlux> anyone know how to get dual screen working in edgy?
[03:37] <fdoving> dhq: there is proftpd and 'gproftpd' too, that's a gtk app, though.. it is graphical. never tried that either.
[03:37] <flaccid> !gproftpd
[03:37] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[03:37] <flaccid> ah frontend
[03:38] <m_tadeu> zorglu_: yep...I think I'll do the same :) thanks
[04:00] <micra> Hi, Im setting up a Apache Server and the files are stored in var/www/, but i dont have access to delete or modify. If i rightclick i see that "root" has access to this folder. How do i change that?
[04:07] <micra> Hi, Im setting up a Apache Server and the files are stored in var/www/, but i dont have access to delete or modify. If i rightclick i see that "root" has access to this folder. How do i change that?
[04:11] <psb154> Micra you should have a www-data group you can add your user to.
[04:14] <micra> psb154: okay, and then i have access or?
[04:17] <CVirus> must Kmail krash on every mail sent ?
[04:17] <Mehercle> hi
[04:18] <Jucato> CVirus: *must* it? of course not... :(
[04:18] <Mehercle> when i press the power button on my computer it will shutdown and halt
[04:18] <azathor> hola cabritos
[04:18] <Mehercle> but.. i want him to hibernate
[04:18] <Mehercle> how can i config this?
[04:18] <azathor> alguien sabe de donde bajar el video code linux en espanol????
[04:18] <hastesaver_> !es
[04:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:19] <azathor> =
[04:19] <azathor> =)
[04:20] <onkeltuca> abattior: sry...this doesnt work neither... i have to go through this acpi stuff
[04:21] <magicmike> !paste
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:23] <User_linux> Minha password doesnt work to log in, but it works to get acess to admin only functions
[04:23] <User_linux> btw, how do I select XGL as the default session?
[04:31] <User_linux> users and groups modulo couldnt be loaded
[04:32] <User_linux> what is broken??
[04:37] <magicmike> I've been having problems with my networking after I did the updates perhaps someone can help me with this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27671/
[04:38] <igi> hi
[04:38] <igi> can someone tell me how can I renew my ip address
[04:38] <igi> with ethtool?
[04:42] <user_linux> the module users & grouops could not be loaded
[04:44] <Digital_Pioneer> Is that channel topic saying that KDE 3.5.5 is stable? I've got 3.5.2.
[04:45] <Jucato> Digital_Pioneer: it's saying that packages for KDE 3.5.3 are now available
[04:45] <Jucato> that KDE 3.5.5 has been officially released
[04:46] <kimo> I'm upgrading to edgy RC, should I leave kde-latest repo on?
[04:46] <Jucato> kimo: no need to. Edgy has 3.5.5
[04:53] <francisco_> hola
[04:54] <Digital_Pioneer> francisco_: Just so you know you're not alone in the world, Hi.
[04:54] <Digital_Pioneer> ;)
[04:54] <BonBonTheJon> !es > francisco_
[04:54] <BonBonTheJon> Digital_Pioneer: guess he didnt need anything
[04:54] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah.
[04:55] <Digital_Pioneer> BonBonTheJon: You can tell he's Spanish by his saying 'Hola'?
[04:55] <Digital_Pioneer> LOL
[04:55] <kimo> Duh, upgrading to edgyRC, it says upstart is broken & not installing it!
[04:56] <BonBonTheJon> Digital_Pioneer: this is a little off topic, but.... do you by chance know anything about the Windows Error-CHecking
[04:56] <Digital_Pioneer> BonBonTheJon: Error checking? I know a good bit about Windoze, but you'll have to be more specific.
[04:57] <swanfl> hi everyone
[04:58] <soulrider> hi
[04:58] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[04:58] <swanfl> does anyone have this problem in Firefox? When I go to preferences, the program crashes.
[04:58] <soulrider> not me
[04:58] <soulrider> you might wanna try Opera out though
[04:58] <soulrider> its a GREAT browser
[04:58] <B-Minus> so is firefox :p
[04:58] <swanfl> I use opera too, but there are things firefox does that opera does not
[04:59] <soulrider> i prefer opera :P
[04:59] <soulrider> but what i like abour FF
[04:59] <soulrider> is that you can delete your history when you exit
[04:59] <soulrider> thats cool
[05:00] <Clinton__> Where can I find the default Kubuntu themes?  I changed mine and would like to change it back.
[05:00] <soulrider> it should still be in system settings
[05:00] <soulrider> uber colors and decoration
[05:01] <DeJaMo> right click on desktop, configure desktop, defaults
[05:01] <Digital_Pioneer> How do I set up multiple user accounts?
[05:02] <Digital_Pioneer> Like logging into a different user at KDM.
[05:02] <soulrider> system settings > users ?
[05:02] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: system setting -> user account
[05:02] <zorglu_> like he said :)
[05:02] <Clinton__> uh, not quite, now everything is in high contrast
[05:03] <B-Minus> is it possible to make a backup of my whole linux partition ?
[05:03] <B-Minus> i mean like all linux partitions together
[05:03] <B-Minus> clone
[05:03] <Clinton__> B-Minus: yup
[05:03] <B-Minus> mm
[05:03] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: OK, thanks.
[05:03] <kimo> B-Minus: google for "ghost for linux" or "mondo rescue"
[05:04] <B-Minus> ok
[05:04] <Clinton__> alright, the default kubuntu theme is nowhere to be found, and defaulting to it isn't possible.  Where can I download the theme?
[05:04] <B-Minus> tnx
[05:04] <Seph`Nix> hi guys, how can i find out wether my kubuntu is dapper, breezy, etc?  i want to update my sources.list - cant remember when i got this cd ^^;
[05:05] <zorglu_> Seph`Nix: "lsbrelease -a"
[05:05] <Seph`Nix> thankyou :)
[05:05] <soulrider> zorglu_: that wont work for me
[05:06] <Seph`Nix> zorg- lsbrelease: command not found
[05:06] <Seph`Nix> :(
[05:06] <Vuen> that's wierd
[05:06] <zorglu_> lsb_release -a
[05:06] <zorglu_> forgot a _ :)
[05:06] <Vuen> Seph`Nix: look on the cd, it should give you a version number
[05:06] <Seph`Nix> perfect thankyou
[05:06] <Vuen> oh, Seph`Nix, you forgot the underscore
[05:07] <Seph`Nix> 6.06 dapper ^^;
[05:07] <Vuen> wow i'm slow. ignore me
[05:07] <Seph`Nix> haha its ok thanks for helping Vuen :)
[05:07] <swanfl> look in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:07] <soulrider> im downloading suse, i wanan try it out
[05:07] <soulrider> but as son as edgy comes out
[05:07] <soulrider> im comming back
[05:07] <Vuen> why suse?
[05:08] <Vuen> edgy comes out in five days
[05:08] <soulrider> just wanna try it
[05:08] <Vuen> alright
[05:08] <soulrider> i never tried any toher distros than kubuntu
[05:08] <Seph`Nix> hmm, for the source-o-matic, letter code for england be UK?  GB? E?
[05:08] <zorglu_> uk
[05:08] <Seph`Nix> ok thanks
[05:09] <vandenoever> i just installed Edgy RC. Strigi runs great on it! hooray
[05:09] <Vuen> strigi?
[05:09] <vandenoever> now i'm playing with Konqueror
[05:10] <vandenoever> Vuen: desktop search
[05:10] <Vuen> mmm
[05:10] <vandenoever> Vuen: it's in universe, install strigi-applet to test it
[05:10] <vandenoever> Vuen: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi
[05:10] <soulrider> i upgraded dapper toe dgy when knot 2 came out
[05:10] <guano> ci
[05:11] <Vuen> i upgraded to edgy when beta came out
[05:11] <Vuen> never had any problems with it
[05:11] <vandenoever> In konqueror, i cannot switch tabs with ctrl-[ and ctrl-] 
[05:11] <guano> ho bisogno di aiuto
[05:11] <vandenoever> do others have this problem too?
[05:13] <user_linux> The module Users & Groups could not be loaded
[05:13] <swanfl> I have problems with ctrl + and ctrl _ changing my screen resolution
[05:13] <swanfl> er ctrl -
[05:13] <guano> nuccio sei italiano
[05:14] <BonBonTheJon> !it > guano
[05:14] <user_linux> helpppppppppp
[05:14] <swanfl> !es
[05:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:14] <user_linux> The module Users & Groups could not be loaded
[05:14] <vandenoever> swanfl: but ctrl-[ and ctrl-]  work?
[05:14] <swanfl> oops. wrong language
[05:14] <swanfl> hold a sec, vandenoever, please
[05:14] <swanfl> let mecheck
[05:15] <swanfl> NM
[05:15] <swanfl> I messed up
[05:15] <swanfl> it's ctrl alt kpplus
[05:18] <VanessaE> swan's talking about the X thing to change screen mode/rez (broken in edgy)
[05:18] <Seph`Nix> is cipherfunk.org alive?  my apt-get update is hanging on connecting to cipherfunk.org - however it might be a problem my end
[05:18] <vandenoever> swanfl: ctrl-alt-kpplus?
[05:18] <vandenoever> VanessaE: ah, ok
[05:18] <Seph`Nix> earlier i tried to download the nvidia drivers and it kept stalling - went and did it on another pc in the end (though even there it crawled)
[05:18] <VanessaE> Seph: from nvidia's server?
[05:18] <Seph`Nix> yes
[05:19] <VanessaE> that's nvidia's fault, I've had it happen as well
[05:19] <Seph`Nix> on my windows machine, where all other net things are working fine, i only got 20k a sec
[05:19] <Seph`Nix> ok
[05:19] <VanessaE> sometimes, wget can work through that prob.
[05:19] <VanessaE> vandenoever, see this bug:  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/66203
[05:19] <Seph`Nix> now i'm going to try and install those nvidia drivers hree ^^  its gone badly in the past so this time i've grabbed a guide
[05:20] <vandenoever> VanessaE: how is that related to ctrl-[ and ctrl-]  in konqueror in edgy?
[05:20] <Seph`Nix> 8 pages of text just to install one set of drivers :x
[05:20] <Seph`Nix> im gonna get to it, idle for a bit
[05:20] <VanessaE> van: it's not related.
[05:20] <VanessaE> swan just wrote the wrong keys, he was confused :)
[05:20] <Acidic32> my dvd playback is slwo
[05:20] <Acidic32> slow*
[05:20] <Acidic32> someone told me about hdparms or something
[05:21] <Acidic32> !hdparms
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <VanessaE> acidic: hdparm /dev/hdc (or whatever your dvd is)
[05:21] <VanessaE> about all you are interested in is whether it says using_dma is on or not.
[05:21] <Acidic32> k
[05:22] <Acidic32> using_dma is on
[05:22] <kimo> upgrading to edgyRC, it says upstart is broken & not installing it!
[05:22] <VanessaE> ok, is direct rendering turned on in your video driver?
[05:23] <Acidic32> how do i find out
[05:23] <VanessaE> glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:24] <Acidic32> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[05:24] <VanessaE> ew.
[05:24] <VanessaE> well you don't need glx itself to play movies of course
[05:24] <VanessaE> but direct rendering is needed, otherwise the xv window doesn't work right
[05:24] <Acidic32> ok
[05:25] <VanessaE> what kind of vid card?
[05:26] <VanessaE> (xv is the name given to the video overlay, which is used to display movies in xine, mplayer, etc)
[05:29] <zorglu_> Acidic32: what is the result of "xvinfo|grep ports"
[05:30] <xitium> Hi I have a question for ya'll, I installed ubuntu but I have decided that I like kubuntu better, how can I remove gnome and the gnome apps that came installed with ubuntu?
[05:31] <Acidic32>     number of ports: 1
[05:31] <Acidic32>     number of ports: 32
[05:31] <zorglu_> Acidic32: you already got xv running
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:31] <Acidic32> k
[05:31] <knowone> bonbon: you beat me to it
[05:31] <otaku-san> Ok, A Stable Edgy RC is gonna be here any day.  So I'm getting ready to upgrade...but will it have issues with upgrading like Dapper did?
[05:31] <BonBonTheJon> knowone: sorry :)
[05:32] <knowone> =o)
[05:32] <xitium> BonBonTheJon: I saw that page on the net but it says what to do if you installed with apt ... etc but not what to do if it was the base installation
[05:32] <zorglu_> otaku-san: a stable release candidate, a new concept :)
[05:32] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: did you install the package kubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <xitium> BonBonTheJon yes
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: ok, you can uninstall those packages
[05:33] <xitium> uninstall the ubuntu-desktop packages or the kubuntu ones?
[05:33] <otaku-san> zorglu_: *rolls eyes*  I meant when it's out of being beta...
[05:33] <otaku-san> ;)
[05:33] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: if you uninstall ubuntu-desktop nothing will happen, it is called a meta-package
[05:34] <BonBonTheJon> xitium: you need to uninstall all the packages on that packe
[05:34] <zorglu_> otaku-san: :) in theory there are no problem upgrading, as for the practice, it can't be answered in advance :)
[05:34] <dhq> can any one help me with pureftpd
[05:34] <swanfl> How do I go back to dapper without removing all the programs I installed and without reinstalling from the CD?
[05:35] <zorglu_> swanfl: what do you mean 'go back to dapper'
[05:35] <xitium> BonBonTheJon, so I just follow the steps on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde ?
[05:35] <swanfl> zorglu_, I'm using edgy
[05:35] <dhq> fdoving: i am using pureftpd i did as you said i got it in my kcontrol but the problem is i can still only use root account and no other user i create plese help me
[05:36] <zorglu_> i think a tool to remove apps is needed, those kind of huge command from the web doesnt quite make it :)
[05:36] <knowone> xitium: yes
[05:36] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Hahaha!  Nothings perfect eh? :)   Oh, man...I'll just have to back up (saw some blogs on that at Planet Ubuntu...kinda weird actually) and just dive off the deep end and upgrade
[05:36] <zorglu_> swanfl: ok, and what do you want ? 'going back to dapper' meaning is very unclear
[05:37] <xitium> I'll try it and see what happens :)
[05:37] <swanfl> I want to stop using edgy and return to using dapper
[05:38] <knowone> xitium: If you've just installed ubuntu, and you'd rather have a pure KDE desktop, you may just want to reinstall with a Kubuntu disk.  I assume, of course, that you have a speedy enough connection to download a Kubuntu disk quickly...
[05:38] <Lynoure> swanfl: What was wrong with edgy?
[05:38] <zorglu_> swanfl: hmm not possible easily. i see 2 alternatives, (i) reinstalling a dapper from the cd or (ii) uninstalling all the apps you installed for edgy and reinstalling the one you removed
[05:39] <zorglu_> swanfl: the second is very long, complex and error prone
[05:39] <swanfl> 3 problems that I became aware of rather quickly, Lynoure.
[05:39] <zorglu_> a tool to rollback the apt-get would be good too :)
[05:40] <otaku-san> rollback?
[05:40] <grayeul> Where do I find settings to change keyboard shortcuts for desktop switching?
[05:40] <swanfl> 1) ctrl alt + and xtrl alt - did not change my screen resolution. 2) When I try to go to preferences in firefox, it crashes the program. 3) when I play I try to play several games, the crash X
[05:40] <zorglu_> otaku-san: like you upgrade package A v1 by v2, ok now roll back and come back to v1. but with several packages
[05:41] <otaku-san> zorglu_: hahaha that's a good idea.  But, just a simple chat of this channel could create a list that would make any coder cringe.
[05:41] <zorglu_> otaku-san: yep :)
[05:42] <zorglu_> otaku-san: but the inability to delete and rollback makes people very cautious to install/upgrade. this is no good
[05:43] <Lynoure> swanfl: the 1st I have on dapper too
[05:43] <otaku-san> zorglu_: it is...I found this out the very hard way....
[05:44] <zorglu_> otaku-san: i update only when explicitly required, for this exact reason :)
[05:44] <swanfl> my wife doesn't, Lynoure
[05:45] <brainless> argh ... the liveCD has such a bad performance on my laptop ... and when I finally managed to get past step 5 (perparing mount points), the installer crashed :/
[05:46] <otaku-san> zorglu_: This is why the edgy upgrade is kinda putting me on edge....I guess it's living up to it's name.  But I'm hoping this new upgrade will get rid of various hiccups I've brought into the system
[05:47] <grayeul> brainless: I fought that problem all day yesterday.... but I tried the Alternate installer and it went smootlhly
[05:47] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Dapper was my first taste of Linux...so it was a bit of a guinea pig for me
[05:47] <zorglu_> otaku-san: you expect an update to fix your config problem ?
[05:48] <brainless> can I get into the alternate installer from the desktop-CD?
[05:48] <zorglu_> otaku-san: ah ok, well you could reinstall a dapper and avoid the mistake you did the first time
[05:48] <grayeul> brainless: I had to download/burn a separate CD --
[05:49] <zorglu_> otaku-san: personnaly i always keep a 15gbyte partition to test new system. when i plan to update, i install the distribution on this partition and config it as i want, if it works ok to my taste i switch
[05:49] <brainless> darn, I won't be able to do that until Monday (at work ... and my boss hates it when I do that...) since I'm on a single ISDN-channel (hey, that was real fast 6 years ago :)) now...
[05:49] <zorglu_> otaku-san: obviously it takes a lot more time to upgrade but this is the prize to stability
[05:50] <Acidic32> zorglu_: i have Gentoo, Kubuntu 64bit and XP Pro 64 on my pc :P
[05:50] <zorglu_> well i beat you easily :)
[05:50] <dhq>  i am using pureftpd no matter i crate many users i can only login the root profile y us that so
[05:50] <Acidic32> lol
[05:50] <zorglu_> Acidic32: my window run in a linux window :)
[05:50] <zorglu_> !qemu
[05:50] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:50] <Acidic32> eh? :P
[05:51] <Acidic32> does it work ok?
[05:51] <Sephnroth> guys i need help - i tried to install the latest nvidia drivers for my downstairs pc (kubuntu dapper, geforce 6200 iirc) and the same problem as occured as when i tried up here - x cant start at all, boot hangs on kubuntu logo and i have to ctrl+alt+f1, startx says something liek please check there is an nvidia card installed
[05:51] <Sephnroth> and this time i followed this guide: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[05:51] <zorglu_> Acidic32: slow but yeah it works
[05:51] <Acidic32> no good for gaming then
[05:51] <Sephnroth> to the -letter-, everything worked, not one command produced and error or warning
[05:51] <zorglu_> Acidic32: no :)
[05:51] <cryptonic> does anyone else have any problems with azureus on edgy kubuntu?
[05:52] <zorglu_> cryptonic: it leaks memory on dapper, and i have been told it still do on edgy. it is likely due to gtk (maybe in relation with java)
[05:52] <Sephnroth> (i did method 2)
[05:53] <Hawkwind> cryptonic: That's the nature of azureus, it leaks memory in every distro as that's just the way the app is.  Might also talk to the guys in #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel
[05:53] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: it didnt on fc4 :)
[05:53] <zorglu_> and eclipse leaks the exact same amount of memory :)
[05:54] <zorglu_> not firefox tho
[05:54] <VanessaE> sometimes if a program leaks memory on one distro but not on another, it can be blamed on things like compile flags, certain library versions, and the compiler itself.
[05:54] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: When I ran it on FC4 it did.  It's just the way the app is made it leaks memory by default, just like firefox
[05:54] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: hey whats up? ....azureus leaks memory?  *eyes azureus suspiciously*
[05:54] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: here i mean that when the apps is closed, the memory is still used. not that the memory is growing with time
[05:55] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: I don't use it since it's a memory hog and leaks massive amounts of memory.  I use ktorrent or just plain bittorrent
[05:55] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: I think I'll do the same...no wonder my system has been so darn sluggish this whole time...
[05:56] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: dont like azureus hey :)
[05:56] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: it used to be nice and fast
[05:56] <zorglu_> and azureus dev are nice and competent :)
[05:57] <otaku-san> zorglu_: hehehe I like it in windoze...just I think for Linux I'll use bittorrent
[05:58] <zorglu_> otaku-san: what is the difference between the 2 ?
[05:58] <zorglu_> otaku-san: i mean why do you like it on window and not in linux ?
[05:58] <zorglu_> linux=kubuntu
[05:58] <zorglu_> to act as if it was on topic :) :)
[05:58] <some0ne> I haven't been able to find a ThinKeramik Debian package for the AMD64 arch. I downloaded the source tarball but the configure script says the X headers could not be found. I have libx11-dev installed. Would anyone like to help me with this or knows where to get a package?
[06:00] <brainless> lol ... and!: "do you know any way to transfer files between two computers using the tcp/ip protocol without using some IM?"
[06:01] <brainless> (that guy claimed to be a tech guru yesterday ;))
[06:01] <VanessaE> oh brother.
[06:02] <zorglu_> IM standing for internet message, and blah! :)
[06:02] <otaku-san> zorglu_: it seems alot more slow for some reason...I really wish I had a linux guru around my area...dang... oh about your question up there...yes I expect a upgrade to fix my config problems...well not exactly.  Oh and I barely have enough space for windoze and kubuntu...a 15 gb part is impossible for me
[06:03] <otaku-san> dang...I had more problems then I thought.... ;)
[06:04] <otaku-san> on a completely new tangent...how many of you have installed the Flash 9 beta?
[06:04] <VanessaE> jeez, 15 gigs not enough?
[06:05] <otaku-san> sad...yes
[06:05] <VanessaE> if most of it is movies/music/etc then divide the HD into three partitions.
[06:05] <VanessaE> one win, one linux, and one just for your data
[06:08] <otaku-san> VanessaE: I have one win, one linux, and a swap.  It took me like 20 times literally to get my harddrive to be parted...I was not going to push it with more partitions then I thought I needed.  I'm n00b with linux...I've stumbled my through for 3 months now but I still love my linux
[06:08] <VanessaE> I understand.
[06:08] <jmichaelx> !flash9
[06:08] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[06:09] <VanessaE> when you've got a smallish drive like that, it's a balancing act for sure.
[06:09] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: check this http://mindwarp.net/?p=22
[06:09] <longbean> it may be theoretically possible to downgrade a debian-based distribution using apt.
[06:09] <Sephnroth> does kubuntu have a minimally graphical console based configuration utility for X like some other distros?  or is it hand editing xorg.conf the only option?
[06:10] <longbean> on the other hand, doing so could render the system completely unusable. the apt_preferences manpage doesn't get very specific
[06:10] <brainless> hmm ... I wonder why everyone's so excited about using betas? that's so often people who don't even know what the "beta" stands for and then complain about stuff not working the way it's supposed to...
[06:10] <otaku-san> VanessaE: no kidding...I thought I either would not have enough...or something was going to go terribly wrong
[06:10] <VanessaE> *nod*
[06:10] <VanessaE> I was the same way when I started
[06:10] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: will do
[06:12] <otaku-san> brainless: I understand what a beta is...but Flash 9 is a big thing.  Every site that uses flash is going to 9...but us linux users originally couldn't see these sites because our stable flash was an older version
[06:12] <otaku-san> what is it...5..or 7?
[06:12] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: i have flash9 going on an Edgy box, and it seems to work well.... however, i am no longer able to view yahoo videos.... i am not sure if this is a flash issue or not, but i thkink it is] 
[06:13] <otaku-san> VanessaE: wow...how long have you been using linux now?
[06:13] <CVirus> Sephnroth: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <VanessaE> eh
[06:13] <VanessaE> not sure, 10 years maybe?
[06:13] <CVirus> VanessaE: how have you been doing ?
[06:13] <VanessaE> oh, I'm good
[06:14] <magicmike> okay VanessaE, Can I get some help from thee?
[06:14] <jmichaelx> <<-- dove into linux about 6 months ago, like jumping into a river without knowing how to swim
[06:14] <CVirus> VanessaE: /join #Kubuntu-OffTopic if you dont mind
[06:14] <binks> hi i have managed to setup my d-link wireless card to be an access point but my xp lappy wont connect althou it see the network any ideas cheers
[06:14] <brainless> otaku-san: I'm not that into flash-using sites anyway so maybe Flash 9 beta might actually be one of the betas which should be spread widely...
[06:14] <knowone> jmichaelx: you'll learn quickly.
[06:14] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: I'll have to check that out...yeah I heard theres issues with installing the flash 9 this way on edgy...but I think it going to be on the "stable" release of edgy
[06:15] <otaku-san> brainless: it's a good beta...not many bugs from what I've seen
[06:15] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: i just installed flash9beta via imbrandon's repo
[06:16] <VanessaE> magic: I can try
[06:16] <jmichaelx> flash games, etc. work much better now
[06:16] <brainless> otaku-san: well, I'm currently fighting with the dapper-liveCD-installer so I'm kind of unable to have a look at anything...
[06:16] <flavio> hi all
[06:17] <otaku-san> jmichaelx: ya...they were real jumpy before...is it real smooth now?  I don't have the time to try one out...I'll try it later tho'
[06:17] <jmichaelx> otaku-san: the few i have tried are working well
[06:17] <flavio> i just a finished my kubuntu website redesign
[06:17] <buz> i'm trying to install flashplugin-nonfree but it never starts downloading the plugin
[06:17] <flavio> i'm going to propose on the mailing list
[06:17] <flavio> http://flavio.tordini.org/kubuntu-restyling/
[06:18] <buz> asks me if it should then ends
[06:18] <otaku-san> brainless: ohhh...I feel for you...I'm about to get off or I would try to help you...
[06:18] <Acidic32> !wmv
[06:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <flavio> what do you think?
[06:18] <otaku-san> buz: go to this> http://mindwarp.net/?p=22
[06:19] <otaku-san> buz: it's the latest flash
[06:19] <buz> i dont want the beta
[06:19] <buz> i want 7.0
[06:19] <buz> usuallythat installs just fine
[06:19] <magicmike> vanessae: I was running 6.06 and did updates. After rebooting all my internet connection devices ( wireless) acx 100 and wired NE2000 disappeared. However, they work when I use the live cd. Can you help with a solution?
[06:19] <brainless> otaku-san: thanks for the offer anyway ;) I managed to get gentoo up and running (more or less, that is ;)) so I should be able to get this one going, too
[06:19] <otaku-san> buz: ahhh good luck
[06:19] <VanessaE> can't help you with the wireless thing :(
[06:19] <jmichaelx> *thinks flash9 beta is more stable than flash 7
[06:19] <otaku-san> brainless: your welcome...ok I'm off
[06:20] <VanessaE> except that maybe the appropriate kernel modules aren't loaded?
[06:20] <brainless> bye
[06:20] <otaku-san> see ya'll
[06:20] <jmichaelx> VanessaE: what wireless chipset do you have?
[06:20] <knowone> hehe
[06:20] <VanessaE> I don't use wireless at all.
[06:20] <buz> except for the fact that it wont automatically be updated when something is wrong
[06:20] <VanessaE> just making a guess based on someone else's wirelss issue I saw a little while ago.
[06:20] <magicmike> Tex Instruments acx 100
[06:20] <buz> which is tantamount on a normal users system
[06:20] <flavio> ok nevermind, thanks for the feedback :)
[06:20] <knowone> buz: neither will 7...
[06:21] <jmichaelx> buz: yes it will if you add imbrandon's repo
[06:21] <magicmike> Well, the wired device doesn't show either.
[06:21] <buz> ok
[06:21] <buz> ill give it a shot
[06:21] <VanessaE> what device is it?
[06:21] <VanessaE> (the wired one)
[06:21] <knowone> anyone know why they jumped from 7 to 9?
[06:22] <buz> jmichaelx: so where is that repo
[06:22] <jmichaelx> knowone: they just never got around to making 8 for linux
[06:22] <jmichaelx> !flash9
[06:22] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[06:22] <knowone> s'what I figured
[06:22] <magicmike> I was told to try sudo apt-get install linix-generic as well as sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules but both actions result packages can't be found.
[06:22] <magicmike> The wired one is NE2000 ISApnp
[06:22] <OOD> there's no linix-generic package ;)
[06:22] <jmichaelx> lol
[06:23] <OOD> look in adept
[06:23] <OOD> you'll find it
[06:24] <magicmike> OOD, you talking to me?
[06:24] <OOD> yes :)
[06:24] <magicmike> Ok, I'll find what in adept?
[06:25] <buz> $
[06:25] <buz> oop
[06:25] <flavio> ok let's try againa
[06:25] <buz> mhh 9beta seems to install
[06:25] <OOD> the generic kernel
[06:25] <flavio> anybody interested in giving me some feedback about a kubuntu site redesign?
[06:25] <buz> thx guys
[06:25] <swanfl> sure flavio
[06:25] <flavio> oh thank you
[06:26] <flavio> so here's the URL
[06:26] <swanfl> you're welcome
[06:26] <flavio> http://flavio.tordini.org/kubuntu-restyling/
[06:26] <buz> i like it
[06:26] <buz> but id like it more if the rss stream actually worked
[06:26] <ubuntu> Alguien puede ayudarme para instalar una tarjeta ati x550 en kubuntu
[06:27] <knowone> flavio, that looks great!
[06:27] <OOD> that looks reallly good :)
[06:27] <flavio> I just finished it
[06:27] <flavio> oh great!
[06:27] <flavio> :)
[06:27] <magicmike> I'm new. Out of 18865 possible packages available, could you be a little more specific? Thanks.
[06:27] <VanessaE> flavio: way better.
[06:27] <VanessaE> nice job
[06:28] <OOD> magicmike: search for linux-generic
[06:28] <swanfl> yes
[06:28] <swanfl> the oroginal page is much busier
[06:28] <argpirate> hey, im having frequent hardlocks, is there any good way to try and start diagnosing the proplem?
[06:28] <flavio> Thank you for your positive comments!
[06:28] <flavio> I'm going to write to the mailing list
[06:28] <jmichaelx> !wmv
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <flavio> Let's hope the devs like it
[06:29] <VanessaE> first rule of thumb with hardlocks is to disable stuff like hard disk DMA and video card glx/accelleration, and turn your AGP speed down.
[06:29] <brainless> argpirate: under which circumstances do you get the locks?
[06:29] <argpirate> brainless: all the time, i could just be browsing sites and it will lockup
[06:29] <zorglu_> flavio: some issue with it displaying it under konqueror, the image on the side got duplicated somehow and appears twice
[06:29] <argpirate> games will normall always cause it to lock
[06:29] <darkblue> I can anybody help with ati x550 card?
[06:29] <flavio> zorglu: really? which version of konq?
[06:30] <OOD> zorglu: looks fine over here
[06:30] <flavio> zorglu: i test on 3.5.5
[06:30] <zorglu_> flavio: 3.5.2 with dapper
[06:30] <BadRabbit320> How do I make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)
[06:30] <OOD> there have been a lot of khtml fixed since 3.5.2
[06:30] <knowone> flavio, I got the same issue in konqueror
[06:31] <flavio> knowone: 3.5.2 too?
[06:31] <knowone> yup
[06:31] <Hawkwind> flavio: Same with 3.5.3 in Dapper too
[06:31] <OOD> upgrade to kde 3.5.5
[06:31] <zorglu_> OOD: sure but putting 'MUST be loaded with khtml > 3.5.2' doesnt seems correct on kubuntu site :)
[06:31] <brainless> argpirate: you should probably go for vanessa's hint
[06:31] <knowone> OOD: not with all the problems I see people having with it.
[06:31] <magicmike> OOD: You typed earlier: there's no linix-generic package. I'm looking and see nothing named as such.
[06:32] <davide> hi guys
[06:32] <flavio> interesting ok i think i'll have to test it on an older konq
[06:32] <OOD> there's no linix, but there is a linux
[06:32] <davide> hi Hawkwind
[06:32] <Hawkwind> Hey there davide
[06:32] <davide> Hawkwind: sorry can i ask u a thing?
[06:33] <Hawkwind> davide: Sure
[06:33] <magicmike> Got ya. Typo. Picky, picky, LOL
[06:33] <OOD> :P
[06:33] <davide> Hawkwind: I'm trying to use kmid (the program which can read midi and karaoke).I can read the text but i can't hear the music
[06:34] <Hawkwind> davide: I've never used kmid personally.  Maybe someone else here will be able to help as I'm sure they know
[06:34] <Darth_Tux> hi all, can i get a little assistance installing kubuntu, i am not a new linux user but i cant afford to lose my main OS
[06:35] <davide> it's strange , i thought i ned some codecs
[06:35] <davide> but i don't know what codecs
[06:35] <zorglu_> my bet is more around the sound config for midi
[06:36] <davide> zorglu_: explain better please
[06:36] <Distro^Junkie> can anyone tell me what's needed for k9copy to work ?
[06:36] <zorglu_> davide: have you already succeed to play a .mid with any software ?
[06:37] <zorglu_> davide: i mean not especially with kmid
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: What do you mean ?
[06:37] <zorglu_> davide: like this timidity or playmidi ?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: I use k9copy all the time.  I simply installed it and use it.  Nothing special needed really
[06:37] <davide> zorglu_: i installed timidity but i can't find it,ehehhe
[06:37] <davide> what strange thing
[06:38] <zorglu_> davide: hehe :) do 'locate timidity' or 'type timidity'
[06:38] <magicmike> OOD: Error commiting changes. Possibly problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. Next suggestion?
[06:38] <Distro^Junkie> trying to copy a dvd from a folder but it keeps saying no sucj folder
[06:38] <swanfl> davide, I kmid doesn't work for me either. I used timidity
[06:38] <zorglu_> davide: or 'dpkg -L timidity'
[06:38] <Distro^Junkie> such*
[06:39] <VanessaE> it might be that kmid wants true hardware MIDI instead of uding timidity like everything else uses :)
[06:39] <Distro^Junkie> ERR: Error reading from pipe: No such file or directory
[06:39] <paulo> hello
[06:39] <Distro^Junkie> nm figured it out
[06:40] <Distro^Junkie> had to keep original menus
[06:40] <Distro^Junkie> duh!!
[06:41] <davide> zorglu_: there is but it's strange i cannot find the file to execute it
[06:41] <paulo> any do an update on breezy and all hard drives disappear from media:/ ???
[06:41] <zorglu_> davide: ? so where is the executable ?
[06:41] <zorglu_> davide: should appears in dpkg -L at least
[06:41] <davide> there isn't
[06:42] <davide> zorglu_:  maybe it's better i delete
[06:42] <davide> and then i reinstall
[06:42] <zorglu_> davide: ok
[06:42] <davide> this program
[06:42] <zorglu_> seems weird to me tho
[06:42] <magicmike> OOD: You done with me?
[06:43] <paulo> anyone do an update on breezy and all hard drives disappear from media:/ ???
[06:43] <magicmike> Guess so.
[06:44] <Sephnroth> is there any way to browse a network / samba shares from a command prompt?
[06:44] <davide> zorglu_:  sorry,i'm deleting it, but what's the command i have to type to update a new version of timidity?
[06:44] <zorglu_> davide: 'sudo apt-get install timidity'
[06:44] <magicmike> paulo: No I do updates and lose networking.
[06:45] <paulo> magicmike: that happened me last night and i has to do a fresh install
[06:45] <paulo> magicmike: and another fresh install this morning
[06:46] <magicmike> paulo: Yea, I've fresh installed at least 3 times. Did you do another update or leave as is after the fresh install?
[06:46] <davide> zorglu_:  now i disconnect and i test
[06:46] <zorglu_> ok
[06:46] <davide> i'll let you know
[06:46] <knowone> anyone know what version of KDE edgy will include?
[06:46] <paulo> magicmike: i update my sources.list and u8pgrade everything
[06:47] <paulo> can i get some help please?
[06:47] <magicmike> Yea, but how did you not lose it this time?
[06:47] <ubuntu__> anyone can help with a usb wifi atheros AR5523?
[06:47] <gurumeditationer> 'sup room
[06:47] <ubuntu__> In kubuntu drapper!!!!!
[06:48] <gurumeditationer> my drive is thrashing wildly right now for no reason I can guess, is there a way to get the disk access stats of each process?
[06:48] <davide> Hawkwind:  nothing,there isn't in the menu!How is it possible?
[06:48] <magicmike> Help not as good today.
[06:49] <Darth_Tux> anyone help me partition a mac hdd and not loose any data?
[06:49] <BadRabbit320> How do I make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[06:49] <paulo> magicmike: touching iptables fecked up everything
[06:51] <magicmike> Paulo: I don't know about this distro. I think I'm going to reformat and try another one. No one can really help with this issue.
[06:51] <paulo> i cannot see any hard drives in media:/ can i have some help please?
[06:51] <paulo> VLOS is not too bad
[06:51] <paulo> trying kubuntu and so far it kinda sucks
[06:52] <paulo> everything breaks
[06:52] <jmichaelx> paulo: it shouldn't
[06:52] <magicmike> My sentiments exactly. Spend so much time trying to get it to work can't enjoy it.
[06:52] <paulo> really need some help and its like asking a brick wall for help
[06:52] <paulo> some help please?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> paulo: What exactly are you having issues with ?  If you tell us what you need help with and supply errors, we might can help
[06:53] <paulo> pretty please?
[06:53] <paulo> i did, 3 times
[06:53] <Hawkwind> paulo: I just walked into the conversation
[06:53] <paulo> when i go to media:/ there is no hard drives
[06:53] <Hawkwind> Try media/
[06:53] <magicmike> Good luck paulo.
[06:54] <paulo> only floppy drive, no home, no root, and no 300GB hard drive (and media/ is invalid)
[06:54] <Hawkwind> paulo: What exactly are you trying to do....you really need to be specific so we can tell you other ways to accomplish what you need
[06:55] <paulo> in konqueror
[06:55] <jmichaelx> paulo: are you in edgy?
[06:55] <Hawkwind> paulo: If you are looking for all of that, try just:  /
[06:55] <paulo> wheni go to the location media:/
[06:55] <BadRabbit320> How do I make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[06:55] <paulo> breezy i'm sure
[06:55] <Hawkwind> paulo: lsb_release -a  will tell you for sure
[06:55] <vital> dapper is the coolest!
[06:55] <costanorte> hi
[06:55] <magicmike> It's all junk.
[06:56] <Hawkwind> magicmike: ??
[06:56] <magicmike> Yea.
[06:56] <paulo> i'm running The Breezy Badger Release
[06:56] <Hawkwind> paulo: Maybe you should upgrade to Dapper instead since it's much newer and has a much longer support time
[06:56] <paulo> and so far it sucks!
[06:56] <swanfl> magicmike, what's all junk?
[06:56] <Hawkwind> magicmike: What's the problem ?
[06:56] <paulo> Hawkwind: i'll try it now
[06:56] <VanessaE> my server still runs breezy :)
[06:57] <Hawkwind> paulo: Breezy was released nearly 8 months ago.  Try Dapper
[06:57] <vital> do you kno whether skype is supported for x64 architectre
[06:57] <VanessaE> (too lazy to upgrade it)
[06:57] <paulo> Hawkwind: whats the quickest way to upgrade?
[06:57] <jonatan> hmmm
[06:57] <magicmike> The problem is I run the live cd and I my networking devices wwork. I install6.06 and they still work.
[06:57] <magicmike> I install updates and all connection devices disappear.
[06:57] <LjL> !upgrade > paulo
[06:58] <paulo> !upgrade
[06:58] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:58] <Hawkwind> paulo: You could essentially change all 'breezy' instances in your sources.list to 'dapper' and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:58] <Hawkwind> paulo: But I always recommend fresh installs as they tend to work better
[06:58] <vital> does any1  kno whether skype is supported for x64 architectre ??
[06:58] <jmichaelx> anyone have a clue as to how to get yahoo video working on an edgy machine? i have it working on one dapper computer, and working halfways on another dapper computer...
[06:58] <Hawkwind> vital: No need to repeat your question every couple of minutes
[06:59] <Hawkwind> vital: Have you asked in #Skype ?
[06:59] <vital> sure
[06:59] <paulo> Hawkwind: this sucks, i did a fresh install last night and another one earlier today
[06:59] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Tried asking the Edgy channel, #Ubuntu+1 ?
[06:59] <VanessaE> Skype is not available in 64-bit form afaik.
[06:59] <magicmike> This is the fresh install channel. LOL
[06:59] <vital> good to know someone at least reads wot i say
[06:59] <paulo> Hawkwind: i really do not have the time for another... plus all the config changes
[06:59] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: i didn't , but i will right now
[07:00] <jmichaelx> i only asked in here because there are more people :-D
[07:00] <Hawkwind> paulo: Linux takes time.  If you aren't willing to put forth the effort then chances are things won't work properly.  I strongly suggest moving to Dapper
[07:00] <VincentMX> hi
[07:00] <magicmike> Help a brother out. How do you know if you're using brezy, edgy, goofy or dopey?
[07:00] <LjL> paulo, well, by now i think i've realized that just about everything you've tried in Kubuntu sucks, however, perhaps you could have installed the current release in the first place, rather than an older release - and even with the older release, what i think you've asked for (accessing the root filesystem, your home partition etc) should be easily achievable. don't you have a "System menu" icon next to your K menu icon? if you don't, you can
[07:01] <LjL> add it by right clicking on the panel and "Add applet".
[07:01] <JosefK> magicmike: lsb_release -a
[07:01] <VincentMX> i have a tv card (Pinnacle PCTV 40i) but it doesnt work
[07:02] <paulo> i'm changing to VLOS.... i found it better, goodbye
[07:02] <magicmike> Okay. I'm running Goofy. LOL
[07:02] <LjL> bye
[07:02] <magicmike> No seriously Dapper 6.06
[07:02] <VanessaE> wtf is VLOS?
[07:03] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: VidaLinux
[07:03] <magicmike> Is there a later release that I might try?
[07:03] <VanessaE> oh ok
[07:03] <LjL> so, he's not willing to install a fresh Dapper, but he's willing to install another completely different (and obscure, apparently) distribution. interesting.
[07:03] <LjL> almost trollish.
[07:03] <VanessaE> yeah..
[07:03] <Hawkwind> LjL: I was leaning more towards 'truly trolling' myself :P
[07:03] <JosefK> magicmike: 6.06 is currently the last stable release, there's 6.10, which is due for release in around a week, but as yet is possibly dangerous
[07:03] <LjL> heh
[07:03] <JosefK> magicmike: the RC was released the other day, at least :)
[07:04] <magicmike> And should it be goofy, dopey, sneezy, edgy or pluto? Thanks, josefk.
[07:04] <JosefK> magicmike: edgy
[07:04] <Hawkwind> magicmike: Enough of the name calling.  It's borderline trolling and not needed
[07:04] <magicmike> Cool.
[07:05] <LjL> on a completely unrelated note, am i stuck with Minicom for a serial terminal program? i realize that BBS's are a thing of the past, but is there really no KDE, or even just Qt terminal? :-?
[07:05] <magicmike> So since my disc is Dapper I assume, how do I turn it into edgy if I decide to reinstall for the umpteenth time?
[07:05] <JosefK> not that I'm aware of LjL, minicom's your best bet
[07:05] <stiopa> a
[07:06] <LjL> hm thanks JosefK
[07:06] <Hawkwind> magicmike: That's really not recommended.  However, read what I have the bot pm you
[07:06] <Hawkwind> !upgrade > magicmike
[07:07] <MetaMorfoziS> is there driver support from intel for intel integrated videocards?
[07:08] <LjL> also, any KDE IRDA utilities? i know on Windows, aiming IRDA and OBEX or whatever compliant devices at the IR port causes a tray icon to show up and give you connection options. anything similar? the keywords "kde irda" in APT show up nothing
[07:08] <JosefK> MetaMorfoziS: only for the new 965 (iirc) cards, the rest are okay with the open source drivers and 915resolution etc.
[07:09] <jonatan> !upgrade > jonatan
[07:09] <magicmike> Hawkwind: Thanks. My problem has not been with trying to upgrade. Mine has resulted from updating. And I did it once on my own and I've done it a couple times following instructions from jende and others.
[07:09] <jonatan> wow, an IRC bot with useful features ...
[07:09] <magicmike> Same results: Loss of networking devices after updates.
[07:09] <Hawkwind> magicmike: You asked how to upgrade, so I gave you the info
[07:10] <JosefK> magicmike: sudo aptitude install linux-686 ? (or linux-k7 depending)
[07:10] <JosefK> magicmike: you may not have the restricted networking modules installed?
[07:10] <Hawkwind> magicmike: Then stay on Dapper and stop upgrading.  Or do a fresh install of Edgy RC and see if that changes things.  This is exactly why upgrading is never recommended
[07:10] <JosefK> magicmike: if you're updating to dapper, you need to install linux-generic
[07:10] <JosefK> s/dapper/edgy/
[07:10] <quilzo> wow, by just entering the channel i solved my own problem !!!
[07:10] <brainless> ...so this is the last try to get kubuntu installed from the liveCD-installer ... after this I'll try an installing-xubuntu-using-a-(k)ubuntu-liveCD and if that doesn't work I'll have no laptop available until I get to downloading the alternate-CD on Monday...
[07:10] <MetaMorfoziS> JosefK: and other? so hav i chance toenable direct rendering in other ways?
[07:11] <magicmike> I'm saying for the last time and hope you understand. I have never tried to upgrade. Just updates. Thanks Josefk I'll try that.
[07:11] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to make konquror transparent?
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> close it.
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> ;))
[07:11] <JosefK> magicmike: dapper=linux-686, edgy=linux-generic - by default the restricted modules aren't installed
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> but iirc xorg have a module that is beta or unstable...
[07:12] <MetaMorfoziS> that supports transparency for windows
[07:12] <shadowhywind> hehe, not the whole window, just the section where the files are locatred
[07:12] <MetaMorfoziS> or xgl...
[07:12] <MetaMorfoziS> ^3 i don't think that is possible, but who knows...
[07:12] <flavio> zorglu_: i think fixed the image problem...
[07:12] <magicmike> Okay, I understand that, but when I try to install them I'm told packages not found when in console.
[07:13] <magicmike> When in adept I'm told they can't be downloaded or commit will screw something up.
[07:13] <Hawkwind> magicmike: Forget about Adept.  Use apt-get from CLI to see much better messages
[07:13] <Hawkwind> magicmike: What point are you at right now that you need to do ?  Are you just wanting to update the system completely to make sure your Dapper install is up to date or what ?
[07:16] <magicmike> No, I'm trying to get online. I just did the last thing that josefk recommended sudo aptitude install linux-686. IT begins the install then tries to get some package from the net and since I'm not connected it stops the install.
[07:17] <magicmike> I'm online here on a windows computer trying to resolve this issue.
[07:17] <jonatan> magicmike: are you using wireless or a direct connection ?
[07:17] <Hawkwind> magicmike: So paste to http://pastebin.ulteo.us what command you ran and what it outputs
[07:18] <jonatan> magicmike: on your linux box that is ...
[07:19] <magicmike> Well, I don't have a connection on that computer so I have to type whatever it says on here. That can take awhile.
[07:19] <quilzo> how do I get KDE running, under root, in tty 1 ?
[07:20] <jonatan> magicmike: when you use your linux box to connect, does it normally use a wireless or wired connection ?
[07:20] <jonatan> or well, do you have any interfaces at all ?
[07:21] <magicmike> I was using wireless but it has the capability for both?
[07:21] <Hawkwind> quilzo: You don't run KDE as root, ever
[07:21] <Hawkwind> quilzo: What are you wanting to do exactly ?
[07:22] <brainless> yay :) the installer did _not_ crash after selecting the partitioning this time :)
[07:22] <coreymon77> okay
[07:22] <coreymon77> thats it
[07:22] <jonatan> magicmike, what does ifconfig output ?
[07:22] <coreymon77> im getting a new wireless card
[07:22] <quilzo> Hawkwind: run the gui in tty 1
[07:22] <jonatan> magicmike, i.e do you have any interfaces listed ?
[07:22] <noex> !amarok
[07:22] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[07:22] <coreymon77> which one should i get?
[07:22] <coreymon77> and will they all work with a linksys router?
[07:23] <noex> !sound
[07:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:24] <quilzo> ok nvm, I found out
[07:24] <magicmike> Jonatan: link encap: Local Loopback inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask 255.0.0.0 UP Loopback Running MTU 16436 Metric:1 RX packets: 3 errors: 0 dropped : 0 overruns : 0 frame :
[07:24] <jonatan> magicmike: oh, you don't even have eth0  ?
[07:24] <jonatan> magicmike: dang
[07:25] <magicmike> No, I get nothing.
[07:25] <magicmike> Just lo
[07:25] <magicmike> Like I said it works fine if I run the live cd
[07:25] <jonatan> does dmesg say anything about it ?
[07:25] <jonatan> i.e "failed to load blah blah blah" or whatever
[07:26] <magicmike> It works fine when I install, but when I do the updates, it kills all
[07:26] <jonatan> mmmm
[07:26] <noex> To get amaroK to play mp3, after a fresh install I need which libxine package?
[07:26] <jonatan> can you see any seemingly related errors in dmesg ?
[07:26] <magicmike> you need libxnine-extracodecs
[07:26] <malcolm> I've got a Lexmark E321 on a win2k3 computer on my LAN and my kubuntu computer sees it, but when i go to install it idk how to install the drivers, can some1 help me?
[07:27] <CVirus> flavio: awesome design
[07:27] <noex> Ah thanks magic, I forgot the last bit.
[07:27] <magicmike> No prob.
[07:27] <flavio> CVirus: thank you
[07:27] <CVirus> malcolm: are you malek ?
[07:27] <malcolm> no
[07:27] <CVirus> malcolm: sorry to disturb you
[07:28] <magicmike> jonatan: are you asking me to run dmesg?
[07:28] <dylan__> where can i find codecs to play mp3s
[07:28] <BonBonTheJon> !libxine-extracodes
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine-extracodes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <OOD> !libxine-extracodecs
[07:28] <jonatan> magicmike, try dmesg | grep eth0 or something like that
[07:28] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:29] <BonBonTheJon> OOD: thank, I missed the c
[07:29] <OOD> np
[07:29] <magicmike> The other command results in Buffer I/O errors.
[07:29] <magicmike> in several sectors
[07:29] <jonatan> magicmike: huh ?
[07:29] <jonatan> magicmike: dmesg fails ?
[07:30] <magicmike> That last one brings me back to the command prompt.
[07:30] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:31] <BonBonTheJon> slow-motion: hallo
[07:31] <lyndy_j> i have an old id. how can i find if its still available?
[07:31] <slow-motion> hi BonBonTheJon
[07:31] <swanfl> lyndy_j, what do you mean?
[07:31] <BonBonTheJon> malcolm: in the control panel, under printers, you should be able to add a shared windows printer
[07:32] <swanfl> could you please be more specific?
[07:32] <noex> Hey Bonbon, I just got rid of my dual boot, had enough confidence built up last night to just reinstall with a full setup.
[07:32] <lyndy_j> well, used IRC before with another ID.
[07:32] <jonatan> magicmike: this is what it looks like for me http://pastebin.ulteo.us/174 , do you get any similar output , or just a lot of errors ?
[07:32] <BonBonTheJon> noex: sorry, can you remind me what you were trying to do
[07:33] <lyndy_j> i remember the password.
[07:33] <magicmike> Wow, that looks nice. LOL
[07:33] <magicmike> No, I just get errors.
[07:33] <BonBonTheJon> noex: if your computers fast enough, you could run windows in a virtual machine, just in case you need a windows environment
[07:33] <jonatan> hmmmm
[07:33] <noex> BonBon: Oh, I wasn't doing anything, just spoke to you guys last night with a few questions.
[07:34] <BonBonTheJon> noex: :) glad everything worked out
[07:34] <jonatan> magicmike: ok, what is the first error ?
[07:34] <BonBonTheJon> noex: I talk to so many people, its hard to remember who is doing what
 how do i identify myself to the network?
[07:34] <noex> Bonbon: So far so good. I will probably write a new user guide... add another one to the fray.
[07:35] <jonatan> magicmike: or well, first line ...
[07:35] <BonBonTheJon> noex: that, or try adding to another one, maybe add something to the ubuntu wiki
[07:35] <jonatan> magicmike: it seems to be a driver problem then.
[07:36] <VanessaE> what do you mean by "the network"?
[07:36] <magicmike> There's so many, I don't know where to start.
[07:36] <VanessaE> do you mean this chat room?
[07:36] <jonatan> oh dear
[07:36] <noex> Bonbon: I do have a question though, any good references to where I can get some good instruction on prefered methods of storing files in the filesystem. Such as where do I put my music, games, and other such stuff.
[07:36] <jonatan> magicmike, this is a bit beyond my level tbh
[07:36] <magicmike> I can't cut and paste since it's not on this machine and typing all that would take hours for me.
[07:36] <ernesto> hello
[07:36] <magicmike> Hey, I appreciate your help.
[07:36] <BonBonTheJon> noex: it is a matter of preference, i make folders for each with lower case names
[07:36] <magicmike> At least you made the attempt.
[07:36] <BonBonTheJon> noex: so 'music', 'movies'
[07:37] <lyndy_j> yes. sorry guys. maybe i'm not being clear.
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon> noex: games are installed, and you can get to them from the menu
[07:37] <VanessaE> lyndy: here, you just type:   /nick whatever
[07:37] <sheft> hi, how do i become root user when I am in konqueror??
[07:37] <noex> Bonbon: In your home directory? /home/bonbonthejon/music and so forth..
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon> noex: yeah
[07:37] <magicmike> I'm not digging on this distro though.
[07:37] <VanessaE> whatever you want for your name, must be one word (i.e. no spaces)
[07:37] <CVirus> sheft: kdesu konqueror
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon> sheft: you need to run 'kdesu konqueror'
[07:37] <brainless> oh no, the installer's doing that "detecting file systems" stuff again (this time in step 6/6) ... it crashed on me three times when it did that in step 5...
[07:37] <noex> Bonbon: well, if I ever install things that will use Wine, I will probably need to specify a home.
[07:37] <magicmike> I've wasted several days on the same prob.
[07:38] <jonatan> magicmike: I think you have a problem with your network drivers
[07:38] <BonBonTheJon> noex: I don't use wine so I don't know how it works
[07:38] <lyndy_j> ok. don't i need to register my name? cause i already have a registered one
[07:38] <VanessaE> eh, that I don't know about
[07:38] <ernesto> nuln?
[07:38] <magicmike> I don't have a problem ntil I update after a clean install.
[07:38] <noex> Bonbon: So for the most part, I will put files that relate to the user (mp3s, documents, pictures), into directories inside /home/username/...
[07:38] <lyndy_j> ok
[07:38] <jonatan> magicmake, yea you said
[07:38] <CVirus> brainless: how about you try the alternate CD instead of the desktop one
[07:38] <magicmike> What has to be updated?
[07:39] <arepie> hello,, big problem.. after install ubuntu which take all my harddisk space, i decided to reinstall ubuntu + windows.. but when i try to setup windows, the system can't detect my hard disk, then i open up ubuntu and run GNOME partiotion manager, and reformat it, it get;s even worst.. now ubuntu also didn't recognize my hard disk..
[07:39] <lyndy_j> thanks
[07:39] <BonBonTheJon> noex: you can, it makes it easy, since konqueror will open into your home direcory
[07:39] <brainless> CVirus: let's put it like this: I'm behind a single ISDN-Channel so it would put my laptop out of use for some days if I start downloading the alternate CD
[07:40] <xsacha> i love how wine has a menu in Kmenu
[07:40] <BadRabbit320> How do I make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[07:40] <jonatan> magicmike, you could give edgy a try
[07:40] <jonatan> magicmike, oh wait
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: can bios detect the harddrive
[07:41] <noex> Bonbonthejon: Ah, that makes good sense. Thanks for the help mate.
[07:41] <jonatan> magicmike, could it be a kernel issue ?
[07:41] <rufi> hi
[07:41] <rufi> how can i remove kubuntu from my computer
[07:41] <jonatan> magicmike, i.e some of the dapper updates updates your kernel image
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> rufi: install another os on top of it
[07:41] <rufi> i cannot boot from cd
[07:41] <petter_> yo
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> rufi: how did you install kubuntu, then
[07:42] <rufi> normal
[07:42] <rufi> next next next :D
[07:42] <magicmike> Are they necessary?
[07:42] <jonatan> rufi, you probably have your boot-order to try the hardrive first in the BIOS
[07:42] <BonBonTheJon> rufi: no, if you can't boot from cd, how did you install kubuntu
[07:42] <rufi> but since kubuntu installed i cannot boot from cd
[07:42] <xitium> I was trying to install java rte and it locked up my system, I rebooted and now it says that I can't go into add/remove programs. It seems like it keeps restoring. How do I get it to stop restoring from a previous session?
[07:42] <rufi> in fact boot-order is
[07:42] <rufi> cd-rom - fdd - hdd
[07:42] <yacoob> greetings :>
[07:43] <BonBonTheJon> hi yacoob
[07:43] <jonatan> magicmike, well you will need drivers that work with your kernel
[07:43] <magicmike> Yea, but if the drivers work when I fresh install why do
[07:43] <jonatan> magicmike, when you boot, try picking an older kernel from grub's boot menu
[07:43] <magicmike> I need to install ones that screw things up?
[07:44] <rufi> can somebody help me with my boot problem
[07:44] <rufi> can i change it from kubuntu
[07:44] <magicmike> Thanks, you're alright!
[07:44] <brainless> doh ... it screwed up again :/ if I read syslog right, it tried to connect to the net using eth1 (the wireless device) instead of eth0 and failed 'cause there is no other wifi-enabled device than the laptop in this house...
[07:44] <jonatan> rufi, you need to change your BIOS settings
[07:44] <jonatan> rufi, do you know how to access the BIOS ?
[07:44] <rufi> i changed
[07:45] <rufi> but still starting linux
[07:45] <rufi> i know
[07:45] <brainless> maybe it helps if I do "ifconfigh eth1 down"?
[07:45] <rufi> i am working in a computing firm
[07:45] <cryptonic> how do I install the nvidia graphics driver in kubuntu?
[07:45] <BonBonTheJon> rufi: maybe the cd is bad, so it cant load it so it loads kubuntu
[07:46] <rufi> its a fresh opened linux format dvd
[07:46] <jonatan> rufi, well you need a bootable CD in your CDrom drive, and if your computer doesn't boot that CD despite the BIOS settings saying it should, then it is most likely a problem with your CD / BIOS
[07:46] <rufi> and i tried normal ubuntu cd's too
[07:46] <noex> rufi:What you have on your harddisk has no effect on how your bios works.
[07:46] <xitium> I was trying to install java rte and it locked up my system, I rebooted and now it says that I can't go into add/remove programs. It seems like it keeps restoring. How do I get it to stop restoring from a previous session?
[07:47] <Acidic32> !flash
[07:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <rufi> apt-get update
[07:47] <jonatan> cryptonic: you need to enable the restricted repositories and then install the drivers using the package manager
[07:47] <rufi> he cannot go into apt or adept
[07:47] <rufi> go to terminal
[07:47] <noex> rufi: In other words, if you can't boot to a CD/DVD, your bios configuration will need adjustment, something is wrong with the media, or you have some failing hardware.
[07:48] <rufi> its a notebook pc
[07:48] <rufi> how can i remove kubuntu from kubuntu
[07:48] <jonatan> rufi, are you SURE the BIOS is set to boot from the CD/DVD first ?
[07:48] <BonBonTheJon> rufi: you can't
[07:48] <rufi> yep
[07:48] <jonatan> rufi, does your CD/DVD work in other computers ?
[07:48] <noex> rufi: What type of notebook?
[07:48] <rufi> yep
[07:49] <rufi> toshiba satellite
[07:49] <rufi> old aged notebook
[07:49] <rufi> 2 years
[07:49] <Distro^Junkie> Hawkwind, if you are still here k9copy worked perfect and thanx
[07:49] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: Glad to hear it :)
[07:49] <jonatan> rufi, in that case your hardware / bios is being dodgy , it has nothing to do with Kubuntu
[07:49] <noex> Ok, disable all of the other devices other than you CD/DVD player and attempt to have it access just that on boot.
[07:49] <rufi> its working in a windows os
[07:49] <Distro^Junkie> Hawkwind, you not with mandriva no more ?
[07:49] <brainless> rufi: did you set a boot password in the BIOS? that's an issue with my notebook, as long as the password is enabled, it won't boot from CD
[07:49] <rufi> and cd is bootable
[07:49] <Distro^Junkie> or am I thinking of someone else ?
[07:49] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: Absolutely not
[07:49] <rufi> windows xp cd
[07:50] <noex> rufi: if it is unable to find the device apon boot once you have done that, you may need to look at your hardware as being a issue.
[07:50] <rufi> nope
[07:50] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: I left the distro on June 1st, stepped down as an op of the channel and walked away
[07:50] <rufi> what ever
[07:50] <Distro^Junkie> how come or is it personal ?
[07:50] <rufi> i am going back to customers computer
[07:50] <jonatan> rufi, well the OS on the harddrive is irrelevant if you boot from a CD, you should not even need to have a harddrive in your computer to boot from a CD
[07:50] <rufi> its not my comp
[07:50] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: Tired of the way the distro as both a distro and a company were headed.  Plus I'm working with Gael on his new project as well
[07:51] <carsten> Moin. I wonder if we could collaborate a bit and promote these two digg-stories about KDE-stuff? Please digg   http://www.digg.com/software/Searching_insite_files_no_matter_what_filetype            and         http://www.digg.com/software/New_math_library_Eigen_0_9_1_released
[07:51] <Distro^Junkie> what new project ?
[07:51] <noex> rufi: As I mentioned, go into your bios, turn off all your devices in your boot list, other than your opitcal drive. If it doesn't find the device then, you have a bad piece of hardware or your bios needs adjusting.
[07:51] <Hawkwind> Distro^Junkie: Join #LFD as it's offtopic here
[07:51] <Distro^Junkie> ok
[07:51] <Acidic32> !flash
[07:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <arepie> !harddisk
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <jonatan> ubotu runs from a liveCD then ? :P
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runs from a liveCD then ? :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <jonatan> oh : /
[07:54] <noex> Be right back, installing flash9
[07:54] <magicmike> yo jonatan: I got it to work by loading a different kernel. One more question.
[07:55] <jonatan> shoot
[07:55] <magicmike> How do I install java?
[07:55] <jonatan> !java
[07:55] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:56] <jonatan> hmm, that doesn't seem to be exactly what you were asking for
[07:57] <arepie> hello.. after install ubuntu which take all my harddisk space, i decided to reinstall ubuntu + windows.. but when i try to setup windows, the system can't detect my hard disk, then i open up ubuntu and run GNOME partiotion manager, and reformat it, it get;s even worst.. now ubuntu also didn't recognize my hard disk..
[07:57] <malcolm> I've got a shared Lexmark E312 printer on my win2k3 server.  kubuntu sees it, but doesn't have the drivers for it, i installed a package from the lexmark support site, but it didn't install the printer and i can't figure out how to, can some1 help me?
[07:57] <magicmike> Thanks dude.
[07:57] <jonatan> no problem
[07:57] <magicmike> !flash9
[07:57] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[08:00] <yacoob> allrighto... is it possible to setup encoding for Konversation? iso2 characters are not displayed...
[08:01] <noex> Well, off to lunch. Have a good one yall.
[08:01] <noex> Bonbonthejon: Thank again bro!
[08:02] <quilzo> is there some kind of boot-file that initializes KDE ?
[08:02] <quilzo> ( I know there is, but I want to know where it is )
[08:02] <VanessaE> KDE relies on several programs that all work together, really.
[08:02] <VanessaE> what are you looking to do?
[08:04] <quilzo> I want to know which flags xorg is being initialized with when Kubuntu starts up
[08:04] <quilzo> there is a file somewhere that doe getty 6 times and then starts xorg...
[08:04] <VanessaE> oo
[08:05] <VanessaE> good question..probably one of the kdm config files?
[08:05] <quilzo> could be
[08:05] <fanta> tell me the fglrx info command
[08:05] <VanessaE> THAT however, is handled by /etc/inittab
[08:05] <VanessaE> (the getty bit)
[08:05] <quilzo> aha
[08:05] <quilzo> inittab :s
[08:05] <VanessaE> but that's not KDE-related
[08:05] <jonatan> quilso , start in /usr/share/xsessions and track them by hand ?
[08:06] <jonatan> oh nvm then : )
[08:08] <jonatan> oh btw, does KDE apps actually come with man-pages and in case, what package would I need to get them ?
[08:09] <Ace2016_> hi all
[08:10] <BonBonTheJon> hi Ace2016_
[08:10] <Ace2016_> are the alternative installer disks ok? any bugs i should watch out for?
[08:10] <Ace2016_> just about to install
[08:10] <BonBonTheJon> Ace2016_: the alternative install disc is just a text-only install, instead of a live cd
[08:11] <Ace2016_> ok so no bugs or crashes?
[08:11] <BonBonTheJon> Ace2016_: no, i actually prefer the alt. install disc
[08:11] <Ace2016_> same i had problems with the desktop installer last time the alternative one seems easier to use
[08:13] <scott_w|lappy> a theming question: the blue tint on the buttons on the window decorations: how do i change that?
[08:13] <scott_w|lappy> i'm looking through the kcontrol utility and there doesn't seem to be anyhting
[08:14] <BonBonTheJon> scott_w|lappy: I guess it depends on the window decoration you have
[08:14] <scott_w|lappy> it's the Vista one
[08:15] <raptor> any major security problems in dapper?
[08:15] <scott_w|lappy> can't you change it?
[08:15] <scott_w|lappy> raptor: is it going to be used as a server?
[08:15] <BonBonTheJon> raptor: if you have the security repos and keep up to date, you should be fine
[08:16] <raptor> not server, just desktop
[08:16] <BonBonTheJon> scott_w|lappy: you mean crystal, with the vista buttons
[08:17] <scott_w|lappy> yeah, that's the one
[08:17] <scott_w|lappy> my bad :P
[08:17] <yacoob> aww... kubuntu failed my userfriendliness test... :>
[08:17] <scott_w|lappy> yacoob: how the hell did it do that?
[08:17] <BonBonTheJon> !language
[08:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:17] <scott_w|lappy> sorry :(
[08:17] <yacoob> scott_w|lappy, by failing to play avi file from remote samba share
[08:17] <scott_w|lappy> !!!
[08:17] <BonBonTheJon> scott_w|lappy: you can tint the buttons
[08:18] <BonBonTheJon> !avi
[08:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:18] <yacoob> BonBonTheJon, nono. Not the codec
[08:18] <scott_w|lappy> bobesponja: in the buttons tab under window decorations?
[08:18] <BonBonTheJon> yacoob: you need to install support for avi
[08:18] <yacoob> kaffine failed to parse MRL
[08:18] <BonBonTheJon> scott_w|lappy: no, under decoration options, there is a buttons tab
[08:19] <yacoob> xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [smb://PL001%5Cwro01638@192.168.1.5/storage/file.avi] 
[08:19] <yacoob> it's far from chokeing on the odec itself... :)
[08:20] <BonBonTheJon> yacoob: I mount the samba/nfs share and then load videos
[08:20] <BonBonTheJon> yacoob: it depends on if that is plausible in your case
[08:20] <scott_w|lappy> BonBonTheJon: that's the one i was referring to
[08:20] <BonBonTheJon> scott_w|lappy: ok
[08:20] <scott_w|lappy> BonBonTheJon: unfortunately, it tints against he blue
[08:20] <yacoob> I just browsed there in konq. And I guess mounting it would do... :)
[08:21] <yacoob> BonBonTheJon, is there a way to quickly mount such thing from konq, or do I need to drop to cli?
[08:23] <BonBonTheJon> yacoob: I'm not seeing an easier way in konq
[08:23] <cryptonic> could someone help me with getting right access to my external hardrive
[08:23] <cryptonic> its partitioned in fat or ntfs
[08:23] <Putero> i think that i has found a bug on amule. Somebody has edgy with amule?
[08:26] <Hawkwind> Putero: Try asking in #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel
[08:28] <quilzo> does anyone know in which file xorg is initialised?
[08:28] <quilzo> x11*
[08:28] <quilzo> x11perf even
[08:29] <quilzo> doesn't seem like it
[08:31] <jonatan> quilzo, you could try #debian , it might be the same file
[08:32] <jonatan> or maybe not
[08:33] <jonatan> you /could/ try to grep recursively for xorg :P
[08:33] <arriesp_> xao gente
[08:34] <arriesp_> xao gente
[08:36] <MasterEvilAce> when is 6.10 supposed to go final? sometime in december?
[08:36] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: Oct 26th, I believe
[08:36] <BonBonTheJon> !edgy
[08:36] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:36] <BonBonTheJon> !schedule
[08:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:37] <MasterEvilAce> Wow, no way.. That's soon. Thanks BonBon
[08:37] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: you know what the numbers in 6.10 mean
[08:37] <MasterEvilAce> ?
[08:38] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: the first number is the year since 2000, then the second number is the month, so Oct 2006
[08:38] <jonatan> so the next release after edgy will be 7.4 ?
[08:39] <quilzo> when I start x11perf -all in tty1, i get "unable to open display ", why?
[08:39] <MasterEvilAce> Oh, I did not know that. I was wondering why the numbers seemed a bit weird. Good tip
[08:39] <BonBonTheJon> jonatan: yes, 7.04 is going to be called Feisty Fawn
[08:39] <MasterEvilAce> What a lame name
[08:40] <quilzo> why does no one know :(
[08:40] <quilzo> think they'll know in #debian or #ubuntu ?
[08:41] <jonatan> give it a try ?
[08:41] <BonBonTheJon> quilzo: sorry, try and see
[08:41] <quilzo> k
[08:41] <MasterEvilAce> is KDE4 shooting for a specific release date? I am wondering if I should format for 6.10 final, or wait until KDE4 is released, and maybe format in april (assuming the next kubuntu will include KD4)
[08:41] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: yeah, kde4 is coming out around april 07
[08:42] <JosefK> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/
[08:42] <MasterEvilAce> BonBonTheJon: So Kubuntu probably won't support it for another year, then? I'm sure they'd want to test for a stable release...
[08:42] <JosefK> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html
[08:43] <jonatan> hmmm
[08:43] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: kde4 is going to be a major overhawl, so they will probably take time
[08:44] <MasterEvilAce> I see, I see. I'll format for this upcoming kubuntu then
[08:44] <BonBonTheJon> MasterEvilAce: you can upgrade to new versions as they come out
[08:45] <MasterEvilAce> BonBonTheJon: Yeah, but I've got some oddities that I need to get rid of.. I've been doing update/upgrade fairly often, and that has caused some weird things to happen
[08:47] <mando> hello
[08:47] <mando> quick question
[08:47] <mando> i ran a full upgrade and installed a few applications like wine and abiword etc.
[08:47] <mando> now the storage media drives hda1 and hda2 have lost their names
[08:47] <carlos> hello people
[08:47] <mando> they;re displayed as  hda1 and ha2 instead of the names they were given
[08:48] <mando> and the xgl seems to have a problem
[08:48] <mando> the login box have no borders around username and password
[08:48] <carlos> does someone now how to use sopcast with mplayer?
[08:55] <petter_> yo
[08:56] <lugburz> ahooi
[08:56] <lugburz> ich hab soeben kubuntu installiert
[08:56] <lugburz> und bin echt grner als grn hinter den ohren ;)
[08:56] <lugburz> wie mounte ich meine ntfs festplatte?
[08:56] <lugburz> ich hab as von nem verzeichnis gelesen
[08:56] <lugburz> und zwar...
[08:56] <dek_> how do I delete console history?
[08:56] <petter_> does anyone here know how to install OADL Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary on Kubuntu dapper? OALD is said to work on Redhat
[08:57] <lugburz> ach kagge...
[08:57] <petter_> keep to English
[08:57] <yamal> !de
[08:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:58] <petter_> English please
[08:59] <roberto_> hi
[08:59] <roberto_> there's someone here?
[08:59] <DHGE> lugburz: man mount google nach fstab
[09:00] <carlos> oh god!
[09:01] <BadRabbit320> Anyone know how to make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[09:08] <ironcladlou> Why can't I remote desktop into my Windows XP box from KDE using Krdc? If I enter the host name in the box, the Connect button is greyed out. If I use rdp:/ from konq, it tries and fails to connect
[09:08] <ironcladlou> what am I missing here? RDP works fine to it through Gnome and from other windows boxes
[09:08] <ubuntu> hi
[09:09] <cellofellow> ironcladlou: you have to put the protocol name in krdc too. vnc or rpd
[09:10] <dek_> how do I delete console history?
[09:10] <ubuntu> i'm  calling from kubunto live cd   i'm not installing the OS  working from the cd  hhhh
[09:10] <ubuntu> that's great  hhhhh
[09:10] <ironcladlou> cellofellow: gotcha. it still fails. "Connection attempt to host failed." this is with either the actual host name or the IP
[09:11] <ironcladlou> wait!
[09:11] <ironcladlou> scratch that. it works via IP
[09:11] <Mez_> Mez: ping
[09:11] <ironcladlou> with rdp:/x.x.x.x
[09:11] <cellofellow> ironcladlou: if you don't have dns or /etc/hosts set up, hostnames won't resolve
[09:12] <ironcladlou> cellofellow: alright. thanks for the help. i love it when the problems are simple :)
[09:12] <yacoob> Hmmm.
[09:12] <cellofellow> ironcladlou: me too :-)
[09:12] <yacoob> amarok now plays mp3, but fails to use musicbrainz for tag filling.
[09:13] <yacoob> anything more needed?
[09:13] <Frederick> folk wich package do I need to have libSDL.la?
[09:14] <yacoob> wiki saves the day, thankyou... :D
[09:14] <BadRabbit320> could someone at least respond with "no way" or "can't understand your problem" so I know whether anyone is seeing my request for help?
[09:14] <iradio> I can't seem to access samba servers. When I put in the address, it just says 0 files and folders. It should be asking me for a username and password
[09:17] <Mez> !wikipedia astroturfing
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wikipedia astroturfing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <petter_> hi
[09:19] <andhy> hi i have problem with kwalletmanager - it don't start automaticly when i run it manually it store all my passwords but after system restart it loose all of them - any suggestion ?
[09:20] <BadRabbit320> Anyone know how to make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[09:24] <klerfayt> BadRabbit320: system setting>appearance>style>configure>scrollbars and sliders
[09:24] <klerfayt> BadRabbit320: *system settings
[09:27] <agustin> hola alguien de tampico
[09:28] <OuTiMe> Hi
[09:30] <dvayanu> hi
[09:31] <dvayanu> my kernel hangs during boot with 4gb ram on core2duo 2.4
[09:31] <yacoob> hmmm
[09:31] <dvayanu> 2.6.19-rc2-mm1
[09:31] <yacoob> if I install kubuntu 6.06, packages from main are "frozen" - only security updates
[09:31] <dvayanu> if i disable memory remapping on the board it works, but i see 3gb only
[09:32] <yacoob> is universum and multiversum also frozen, or are they moving target?
[09:33] <BadRabbit320> klerfayt  Thank you!!!
[09:34] <yacoob> ....anyone? :)
[09:35] <dragonflyseven> Hey guys, what is the difference between Edgy Eft RC, and the final release? ie: should I upgrade now, or wait?
[09:37] <yacoob> dragonflyseven, RC means 'release candidate'. So there may be dragons.
[09:37] <yacoob> Er, bugs.
[09:37] <TheGateKeeper> dragonflyseven: final release will hopefully have a few less bugs
[09:37] <dragonflyseven> Yeah... But can those bugs be fixed by updating?
[09:38] <TheGateKeeper> I should imagine they issue updates that do exactly that
[09:40] <dragonflyseven> OK. The thing is, I have a black CD now, and I might not by the 26th, so I think I will do it. I am doing a reinstall, since I am still using the first version I installed, which was originally using GNOME. There are a lot of things I don't need like that, so I am reinstalling.
[09:40] <dragonflyseven> blank CD*
[09:42] <jasonmog> how do i reinstall grub? vista overwrote the MBR. i'm using kubuntu for linux but i can't get in to it any more. my hard disk is split into 3 partitions for xp, vista, kubuntu in that order
[09:43] <Ace2016> Hi all
[09:43] <Ace2016> what do i have to do to get a tv card to work? what do i have to install?
[09:43] <Ace2016> i just installed kubuntu
[09:44] <Novh> hey guys
[09:44] <Ace2016> hey
[09:44] <Novh> why cant i launch emacs with katapult?
[09:44] <Ace2016> its not installed?
[09:44] <Ace2016> :D
[09:44] <yacoob> jasonmog, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows could be of use ;)
[09:44] <Novh> ofc it is =p
[09:44] <Novh> i have to run it via the kmenu all the time :(
[09:44] <dvayanu> can i run two different firefox installations with the same user at the same time?
My download speed here is slow!</whine>
[09:45] <dragonflyseven> dvayanu: not on windows...
[09:45] <jasonmog> thank you
[09:46] <fdoving> !away > emav_away
[09:46] <BadRabbit320> klerfayt found it, but not listed as toolbars and Sliders...toolbar only, no way i'm seeing to make them wider.  any more thoughts?
[09:46] <magicmike> !wine
[09:46] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:47] <klerfayt> BadRabbit320: oops I thought you needed scrollbars wider
[09:48] <klerfayt> BadRabbit320: rightclick on toolbars
[09:48] <Ace2016> why is mythtv not in kubuntu repos?
[09:48] <jon_> !flash
[09:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <Novh> Hm
[09:49] <Novh> What happens if i connect my laptop (this one) that is running kubuntu, with my stationary that is running Win XP?
[09:50] <Novh> i wanna download some music
[09:50] <AdamKili> stationary?
[09:51] <AdamKili> ....desktop?
[09:51] <Novh> call it what you want mate
[09:51] <User_linux> The module could not be loaded, how can I manage my user accounts now??????????? Many other modules refuse to load
[09:52] <AdamKili> Novh: how are u connecting them?
[09:52] <Darth_Tux> hi all, how do i unmount all drives when using the live CD so i can partition the hdd?
[09:52] <Ace2016> mplayer is not in my repos, do i have to enable dapper repos too? i installed 6.10 RC about half an hour ago
[09:52] <Novh> with a TP
[09:52] <Novh> straight
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> Darth_Tux: use umount but if you are using a livecd I would not have thought that they would be mounted unless you diliberatly mounted them
[09:54] <Novh> so
[09:54] <Novh> anyone?  =D
[09:54] <BadRabbit320> klerfaytr r-click not available, but I DID find it in "configure" for "widget Style" as "Scrollbar Width"
[09:55] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > Ace2016
[09:55] <AdamKili> sorry i know nothing about TP, but i connected over a wireless lan network and transfered 10 GB of music overnight.
[09:55] <BadRabbit320> klerfayt Thanks for getting me there
[09:55] <fdoving> Novh: if you anable internet connection sharing on the windows box, you'll probably get internet :)
[09:55] <Darth_Tux> TheGateKeeper: i didnt mount them and when i use umount it says it isnt mounted according to mtab, qyparted wont resize the partitions because it is mounted
[09:56] <Novh> i have internet :)
[09:56] <Novh> i just wanna transfer some files from desktop (win xp) -> laptop (kubuntu)
[09:56] <TheGateKeeper> Darth_Tux: odd, what livecd are you using?
[09:56] <BadRabbit320> klerfayt 9would've liked to pick "how wide" i wanted them, but at least I can see them now!
[09:57] <Darth_Tux> TheGateKeeper: kubuntu
[09:57] <fdoving> Novh: ok, connect them and just do it :) you can browse to smb:/ with konqueror
[09:57] <Novh> ah
[09:57] <Novh> coolt
[09:57] <Novh> -t
[09:58] <TheGateKeeper> Darth_Tux: use GParted livedcd or http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[09:58] <TheGateKeeper> Darth_Tux: there might be a boot option with the kubuntu cd but I don't what it is
[09:59] <dragonflyseven> Is there a hot key to open the KMenu? I just assigned win + l to it, but it would be better if it was just win
[09:59] <Ace2016> Thanks
[10:01] <julius> guden
[10:01] <ubuntu> how do i boot into my hard disk using a live cd?
[10:01] <julius> just do it in your cd laufwerk
[10:02] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: you mean chroot?
[10:02] <julius> kann hier jemand auch deutsch???
[10:03] <julius> haaaaallllloooooo
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> !dr
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <TheGateKeeper> !de
[10:03] <Darth_Tux> TheGateKeeper: problem is i am using it on a mac
[10:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:03] <Nighty99> Hi all
[10:04] <Ace2016> Hi
[10:05] <TheGateKeeper> Darth_Tux: hmmm sorry I have no experience with macs, I avoid them like the plague
[10:09] <grayeul> What should /etc/apt/apt.conf (or other file) be set to in order to have apt-get go to Edgy RC ?
[10:10] <campbch> ello
[10:10] <scion> hi
[10:10] <scion> how is things
[10:11] <TheGateKeeper> grayeul: /etc/sources.list and I think you replace dapper with edge, but might be best to check the wiki site
[10:12] <scion> hello TheGateKeeper
[10:13] <flexan> hello
[10:13] <grayeul> TheGateKeeper:OK... except Im running Edgy (new install) but apt-get is asking for CD...
[10:13] <grayeul> TheGateKeeper: Ah.. maybe it checks CD first, because there is a cdrom line in sources.list
[10:13] <flexan> is this the correct place to ask for some assistance booting the kubuntu 6.10 RC livecd? i've been searching docs/google/wiki/forums all day
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> grayeul: yep comment it out :-)
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> hi scion
[10:14] <grayeul> TheGateKeeper: Yep, that worked, thanks!
[10:14] <scion> flexan: what probs you having?
[10:15] <TheGateKeeper> grayeul: np :-)
[10:15] <flexan> well. after the load/booting etc. i get a nice light blue screen and a little bit of black corruption here and there. mouse cursor works
[10:15] <scion> brb... time for a smoke
[10:16] <flexan> no icons or anything
[10:16] <scion> flexan: is this after an install?
[10:16] <flexan> no this is booting live
[10:16] <scion> ouch!
[10:16] <flexan> hehe
[10:16] <flexan> i;ve tried vga safe mode
[10:17] <flexan> same result
[10:17] <scion> did uyou try do a media test, to see if the disk is ok?
[10:17] <scion> brb
[10:17] <flexan> yes i did
[10:17] <flexan> ok scion
[10:17] <TheGateKeeper> flexan: #ubuntu+1 is another place you could ask
[10:18] <Novh_> hey
[10:18] <Novh_> i tried
[10:18] <Novh_> but it wont work >_>
[10:18] <gun_>  ?
[10:18] <User_linux> The module could not be loaded, how can I manage my user accounts now??????????? Many other modules refuse to load
[10:18] <LjL> !ru > gun_
[10:18] <flexan> hmm is that a better place to ask for assistance theGateKeeper?
[10:19] <TheGateKeeper> for edge at the moment, probable until it is fully released
[10:19] <flexan> ok.
[10:19] <flexan> thank you
[10:19] <Novh> i tried
[10:19] <TheGateKeeper> flexan: just hope you find a fix :-)
[10:19] <Novh> I tried connecting my 2 computers but it wont work :c
[10:19] <Novh> is there any firewall in Kubuntu?
[10:20] <TheGateKeeper> Novh: yep called iptables
[10:20] <flexan> thanks. quick question. i am on an amd 64 x2. and want to do gaming with cedega, should I be trying to get the x386 or 64bit version working?
[10:20] <TheGateKeeper> !iptables
[10:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[10:20] <flexan> i'm currently trying both.
[10:20] <Novh> ah
[10:20] <flexan> with similar boot problems
[10:21] <Novh> because when i open Samba it says there are no workgroups in my local area network
[10:21] <Novh> may be caused by an enabled firewall
[10:21] <Novh> im trying to transfer stuff from win xp to kubuntu
[10:21] <Novh> as i mentioned earlier
[10:21] <TheGateKeeper> flexan: what I do know is you need to install 32bit apps for flash & codecs to work
[10:21] <TheGateKeeper> flexan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:21] <LjL> !firewall
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[10:22] <LjL> uh
[10:22] <flexan> thanks TGK
[10:22] <TheGateKeeper> Novh: you should be able to browse the network using konqueror
[10:23] <Novh> i tried
[10:23] <Novh> isnt it
[10:23] <Novh> smb://computer
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper> Novh: I have never done anything with iptables & I can see windows shares on my local network
[10:23] <Novh> :c
[10:23] <LjL> !firewall
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command, or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:24] <LjL> oh, finally
[10:24] <Novh> TheGateKeeper:
[10:24] <Novh> i have to use Samba, right?
[10:24] <Novh> !samba
[10:24] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> konquror has a samba client builtin
[10:25] <Novh> yea, when i run that it cant find any workgroups in my lan
[10:25] <Novh> or something
[10:26] <nabil_> hey guys someone pls help me to get my ati radeon mobility x1300 running in kubuntu
[10:26] <nabil_> i need 1280x800
[10:26] <nabil_> am a new guy
[10:27] <larsivi> are there any gui network settings tool in edgy that can handle wpa2 ?
[10:27] <scion> nabil_: you want a resolution of 1280x800?
[10:27] <nabil_> pls help me in configuring my ati adaptor
[10:27] <nabil_> yes pls
[10:27] <scion> ok
[10:28] <nabil_> and even the screen saver crawls
[10:29] <scion> nabil_: press Alt+F2 and type kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <User_linux> The module could not be loaded, how can I manage my user accounts now??????????? Many other modules refuse to load
[10:29] <adam^> Hi
[10:29] <scion> scroll down about halfway and you will see the display driver... tell me what it says
[10:29] <Xal2> Hi
[10:29] <scion> hello Xal2
[10:29] <Xal2> Does the latest version of Kubuntu to download have the latest kernel?
[10:30] <brainless> ...[installer]  Copying files (28:00 minutes remaining)... 88%... :)
[10:30] <proog> hello, when i try to play a midi file with kmid, it gives the error "Could not open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it". can anyone help me get midi to work in kubuntu?
[10:31] <flavio> hi all
[10:31] <scion> nabil_: i'd image it is some sort of ATI card you have?
[10:31] <brainless> it took me 6 hours to get there but here we are =)
[10:31] <scion> *imagine
[10:31] <flavio> check this design for the Kubuntu homepage
[10:31] <flavio> http://flavio.tordini.org/kubuntu-restyling/
[10:31] <User_linux> The module could not be loaded, how can I manage my user accounts now??????????? Many other modules refuse to load
[10:31] <flavio> let me know if you find any problem
[10:32] <Hawkwind> User_linux: Please stop repeating yourself every couple of minutes
[10:32] <nabil_> scion it says Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480
[10:32] <nabil_> yeah is there a solution to this
[10:32] <Ash-Fox> What is that application called, that lets you run a xserver in a window in a current xserver?
[10:32] <Hawkwind> User_linux: Also, you might state what you're doing, what you've tried, what you want to do and be specific
[10:32] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: Xnest ?
[10:32] <Ash-Fox> Hawkwind, could be. I can't remember *tries* :)
[10:32] <nabil_> scion ...any soln to this ati resolution
[10:32] <scion> nabil_: what is the make and model of your card? i'd think it is a drive issue
[10:33] <nabil_> yeah it is ati mobility radeon x1300 in my laptop
[10:33] <User_linux> system configuration, the users & groups module could not be loaded
[10:34] <scion> nabil_: ok i had issues with ati a while ago... hang on a sec and i'll do a bit o reseach!
[10:34] <zorglu_> flavio: the 'duplicate image' issue is no more there in my 3.5.2 browser
[10:34] <nabil_> sure
[10:34] <Xal2> Is it possible for me to compile my own kernel on another computer to add to a linux live CD?
[10:34] <flavio> zorglu: great!
[10:34] <flavio> zorglu: that's what i wanted to hear!
[10:34] <zorglu_> flavio: :)
[10:35] <Hawkwind> flavio: The problem still exists in 3.5.3 though
[10:35] <proog> anyone knows about my problem with /dev/sequencer?
[10:35] <Ash-Fox> Hawkwind, thankyou :)
[10:35] <flavio> Hawkind: really?
[10:35] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: No problem
[10:36] <Hawkwind> flavio: Yep.  Viewing it now and the image is duplicated still
[10:36] <flavio> Hawkind: did you refresh the page?
[10:36] <Hawkwind> flavio: Yes.  Besides that, I just rebooted my computer about 5 minutes ago
[10:36] <flavio> Hawkind: ok :)
[10:36] <flavio> Hawkind: It's a nasty bug...
[10:37] <Hawkwind> flavio: Hah, yes it is
[10:37] <scion> nabil_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:37] <nabil_> yeah..
[10:37] <petter_> hi peeps
[10:37] <flavio> Hawkind: apart from that i think it's complete now
[10:37] <nabil_> i'll follow this ?
[10:37] <scion> yeah and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9023914
[10:38] <petter_> anyone running OALD on their KUBUNTU?
[10:38] <nabil_> scion..thanx bro..will chk this out
[10:38] <scion> nabil_: ati is not supported very well in linux... they kinda suck ass actually
[10:38] <flexan> hello again
[10:39] <petter_> Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary OALD
[10:39] <Hawkwind> flavio: Besides that image problem it looks perfect in konqueror just like it does in swiftfox
[10:39] <nabil_> yah i know but it supports in slackware linux...
[10:39] <flavio> Hawkind: swiftfox? :D
[10:39] <nabil_> i tried a slackware the other day called myah os
[10:39] <Ash-Fox> Drat, can't get xnest to use a backing store of it's own
[10:40] <flexan> do the alternate CD's allow live booting? I can't get the 64-bit or x86 CD to booth in regular or safe mode
[10:40] <Hawkwind> flavio: Yes, much faster and less memory intensive than firefox.  Find it at:  http://getswiftfox.com
[10:40] <flavio> Hawkind: never heard about it
[10:41] <petter_> any lucky OALD users out there?
[10:41] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: they are from mozilla or distinct ?
[10:41] <flavio> Hawkwind: I'm checking it out
[10:42] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Read the page, it tells you all about it and how it works and where it comes from
[10:43] <petter_> flexan: hi
[10:43] <zorglu_> Hawkwind: ok, i will test it :)
[10:44] <scion> nabil_: let me know the outcome
[10:44] <nabil_> yeah goint through it ...and surely be back
[10:45] <flavio> Hawkwind: are u native english speaker?
[10:45] <flavio> Hawkwind: i need some help with some text
[10:45] <Hawkwind> flavio: Yes I am
[10:46] <flavio> Hawkwind: great! what do you think about: "Feel like contributing?"
[10:46] <flavio> Hawkwind: is it correct?
[10:46] <BadRabbit320> so if I want to try swiftfox, how do I 9or do I) need to get rid of firefox?
[10:46] <Hawkwind> flavio: Yes, that is a proper sentence/question
[10:46] <flavio> Hawkwind: i mean if you think it sounds right in the context
[10:47] <flavio> Hawkwind: is it better than "How to help"
[10:47] <Hawkwind> flavio: If it were me, I'd change it to:  Do you wish to contribute?
[10:47] <Hawkwind> Or 'Would you like to contribute' or 'Would you like to help'
[10:48] <flavio> Hawkwind: ok thank you
[10:48] <flavio> Hakwind: it's for me to choose, my english is very basic
[10:48] <flavio> Hakwind: it's hard for me to choose, my english is very basic
[10:48] <Hawkwind> flavio: No problem
[10:49] <Hawkwind> I personally would use 'Would you like to contribute?'
[10:50] <flavio> Hawkwind: uploaded
[10:50] <some0ne> Is there a Flash 9 Debian package out there yet?
[10:51] <some0ne> I'd use Gnash, but . . they don't have video down yet, damn.
[10:51] <Hawkwind> some0ne: No
[10:51] <Hawkwind> some0ne: Flash 9 is easy to install.  All you have to do is copy one file to a directory, restart your browser
[10:51] <zorglu_> !flash9
[10:51] <some0ne> Yeah I did that.
[10:51] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[10:51] <some0ne> mm 'k
[10:51] <zorglu_> seveas made a .deb
[10:52] <Hawkwind> flavio: Looks great
[10:52] <User_linux> thanks for not helping
[10:52] <flavio> someone: http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b1_installer_linuxplugin
[10:52] <flavio> flavio: it's not a deb
[10:52] <flavio> someone: it's not a deb
 some0ne: No <-- yes there is 
[10:53] <flavio> someone: but just extract the .so in ~/.mozilla/plugins and you're done
[10:53] <Hawkwind> Seveas: Hah, thanks as I hadn't seen the update to the fact :-)
[10:53] <jende_> Howdy...*ggg*
[10:53] <Seveas> it's only been there for 3 days or so :
[10:53] <Hawkwind> Hey there jende_
[10:54] <andhy> i have problems with kwalletmanager - don't start automaticly, runing manually storing all password/usernames but ... when i restart system wallet is empty
[10:54] <BadRabbit320> if I want to try swiftfox, how do I(or do I) need to get rid of firefox?
[10:54] <flavio> Seveas: thank you for your packages Seveas
[10:54] <Hawkwind> BadRabbit320: No.  Just install it and run swiftfox instead of firefox
[10:54] <jende_> Hawkwind: what a day
[10:54] <flavio> Seveas: i use freenx packaged by you
[10:54] <Hawkwind> BadRabbit320: It uses all the config files for firefox
[10:55] <Hawkwind> andhy: Dapper or Edgy ?
[10:55] <jende_> Hawkwind: all day long, just stress...grrrr...
[10:55] <flavio> Seveas: it's the only package that really works
[10:55] <Hawkwind> jende_: Heh.  Welcome to life :P
[10:56] <andhy> Hawkwind: on dapper first and now on edgy
[10:56] <some0ne> Saveas Oh didn't see that.
[10:56] <Un4givn1> Ubunto or Kubunto ... which is best for normal everyday use with wine?
[10:56] <Hawkwind> andhy: Supposedly the problem is fixed in Edgy in KDE 3.5.5
[10:56] <jende_> Hawkwind: at about noon I did get a call from one of my clients that the nezwork is not working anymore, cause the server seems to be down
[10:56] <Hawkwind> Un4givn1: Both the same.  One uses Gnome, the other uses KDE
[10:56] <flavio> Un4givn1: your question caused my head to explode!
[10:57] <andhy> Hawkwind: isn't :) i test it today ;)
[10:57] <Un4givn1> Hawkwind: which one does wine like best?
[10:57] <Hawkwind> Un4givn1: Neither, they are both the same
[10:57] <scion> Un4givn1: if you ask here you will be answered kubuntu, if you ask in ubuntu channel you will be answered ubuntu... its kinda a matter of personal preference!
[10:57] <Hawkwind> andhy: Might ask in #Ubuntu+1 then as that is the Edgy channel and maybe they know a fix or something
[10:57] <BadRabbit320> Hawkwind thanks.  yes, i'm a noob but I've learned a lot(in my mind...) by lurking... but sometimes ya gotta ask
[10:57] <Un4givn1> gnome & kde handle wine the same way
[10:57] <scion> yes
[10:57] <Un4givn1> hadn't had much luck w/ ubunto and wine for some reason...
[10:58] <jende_> Hawkwind: and guess what...it was just worse, cause the cleaner upplugged the UPC
[10:58] <andhy> Hawkwind: i'll try - thanks :)
[10:58] <Hawkwind> jende_: Ouch!
[10:58] <scion> Un4givn1: what you tryin to install
[10:58] <Un4givn1> wine so i can play halflife
[10:58] <jende_> Hawkwind: it took me ages to recover the lot...and that on a saturday
[10:58] <scion> hehe
[10:58] <scion> did you try the guide on linuxgamers?
[10:59] <jende_> magicmike: still alive?
[10:59] <Un4givn1> can try it, hadn't been on irc 4 ever it seems..
[10:59] <scion> worked for me with counterstrike
[10:59] <scion> i get you link now
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: remind me to bug Seveas later please
[10:59] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ?
[10:59] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: About ?
[11:00] <scion> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[11:00] <jonatan> doing 150 CAT at the moment
[11:00] <Un4givn1> thanks
[11:00] <jonatan> oops, wrong chan
[11:00] <jonatan> sorry : )
[11:01] <scion> np
[11:01] <BadRabbit320> how can I copy favorites(bookmarks) from a jumpdrive into firefox or swiftfox? a srch didn't show the bookmarks I already saved
[11:04] <Hawkwind> BadRabbit320: locate bookmarks.bak   if you kept the original file
[11:07] <dvayanu> can i somehow check which process is blocking a device?
[11:07] <BadRabbit320> Hawkwind thanks again
[11:07] <zorglu_> dvayanu: some funky fuser would do
[11:08] <zorglu_> dvayanu: fdoving is good with fuser
[11:08] <zorglu_> dvayanu: he has been idle for 1h10m tho
[11:08] <dvayanu> i have the problem that xmms tells me that /dev/dsp is busy
[11:08] <LjL> what about lsof as well
[11:09] <zorglu_> LjL: yep, just have to know the proper option :)
[11:09] <zorglu_> and i dont :)
[11:09] <dvayanu> i had the same problem with the same install on another pc, but it was sufficent to chmod it to a+rw
[11:09] <LjL> zorglu_: bah, i'd just try typing "lsof | grep devicename" :)
[11:09] <LjL> like lsof | grep dsp
[11:10] <dvayanu> LjL: none
[11:10] <Hawkwind> BadRabbit320: No problem
[11:10] <zorglu_> dvayanu: this smell like oss conflict, can you make xmms use alsa ?
[11:11] <dvayanu> zorglu: noatun uses alsa, right? i'll check whether it works
[11:12] <zorglu_> i dunno about noatun and alsa
[11:12] <zorglu_> !sound
[11:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:12] <zorglu_> just in case it helps
[11:12] <dvayanu> got it
[11:12] <dvayanu> it was a hanging artsd
[11:15] <dvayanu> moving on to next problem (i love my installation)... what can be a reason that out of three identical sata harddrives only two are recognized?
[11:15] <dvayanu> bios shows 3, windows shows 3, but i only have sd1 and sdb
[11:16] <dvayanu> s/sd1/sda
[11:19] <kaatil> yo
[11:19] <scion> word up homie
[11:19] <Ash-Fox> Is there any way I can force backing store ONLY for one particular window or just in Xnest?
[11:19] <yamal> dvayanu: all drives on the same sata controller?
[11:20] <dvayanu> yes
[11:20] <kaatil> nothin much it just that my dsl modem disconnect to internet too often.. prehap it break down.. (i guess i need new dsl modem device now.. bah)
[11:20] <dvayanu> yamal: yes
[11:20] <kaatil> or it my isp that goes haywire
[11:20] <scion> anyone good with grub? when i go to rescue mode root logs in automatically... i wanna stop this
[11:22] <Ash-Fox> scion, most people just set a password on grub, so the only option people can use without a password is the default.
[11:22] <scion> ??
[11:22] <Ash-Fox> !!
[11:22] <scion> Ash-Fox: this is by default tho
[11:22] <scion> i did not set it
[11:23] <JohnFlux> how do I reinstall the default configuration files etc for a package?
[11:23] <Ash-Fox> And you're not reading what I said.
[11:23] <scion> not very secure at all
[11:23] <morphish> is there a good K app that can do image processing, or should i stick to gimp?
[11:23] <JohnFlux> like doing  apt-get remove --purge   then reinstalling?
[11:23] <Ash-Fox> Or at least you're not understanding it.
[11:23] <scion> sorry!
[11:23] <scion> but thats kinda the same as a BIOS password
[11:23] <ltmon> morphish: try out Krita
[11:24] <scion> i'll take the BIOS password option instead!
[11:24] <Ash-Fox> scion, the bios password option doesn't block people from changing the default boot option
[11:24] <morphish> ltmon: aye, let's see what it can do
[11:24] <Ash-Fox> It only blocks access to the BIOS, or to the computer entirely.
[11:24] <scion> they cannot get the grub screen until they enter the bios pass first tho
[11:25] <zorglu_> scion: the bios option doesnt prevent me from opening the box and get the disk to modify it :)
[11:25] <cox377> does anyone here stream media from another computer using something like armork etc?
[11:25] <Ash-Fox> 'They' you say.
[11:25] <scion> they being flatmates lol
[11:26] <scion> or the MPAA lmao
[11:26] <scion> ah sure never mind!
[11:27] <Xal2> In order to create my own kubuntu live CD with a custom kernel, is it possible to get the kernel patches applied to kubuntu releases?
[11:28] <Valombre> Hey, Celeste ? :(
[11:28] <zorglu_> Xal2: likely, ask on #ubuntu-kernel
[11:28] <jende_> zorglu_: howdy
[11:28] <bobesponja> hey
[11:28] <zorglu_> Xal2: maybe in the source .deb of the kernel if there is any
[11:29] <zorglu_> jende_: hi
[11:29] <Xal2> ok
[11:29] <bobesponja> is there a tool on kubuntu to detect and mount smb shares?
[11:29] <zorglu_> hi... for the second time today :)
[11:29] <david_edmundson> Xal2: there's a particular program for making debian live CD's from deb pacakages
[11:29] <david_edmundson> hold on
[11:29] <david_edmundson> bobesponja: smb4k
[11:29] <ltmon> bobesponja: I use smb4k
[11:29] <david_edmundson> bobesponja: or tell knoqueror to go to smb:/
[11:30] <Xal2> david_edmundson, do you know if the daily kernel builds for ubuntu are with the latest kernel?
[11:30] <jende_> zorglu_: one comes back...;-)
[11:30] <otaku-san> zorglu_: you still on?
[11:30] <otaku-san> hehehe
[11:30] <david_edmundson> Xal2: what?
[11:30] <zorglu_> :)
[11:31] <Xal2> nm, I'll ask in the kernel channel, probably more appropriate to ask there.
[11:31] <bobesponja> I get smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[11:31] <david_edmundson> ok, I thought you were making your own kerenel
[11:31] <david_edmundson> (make sure you use make-kpkg)
[11:31] <bobesponja> how can I install smbmnt as suid root?
[11:31] <Xal2> Well, would I need the kernel patches?
[11:32] <ltmon> bobesponja: I don't think so, unless you are getting some kind of failure
[11:32] <ltmon> I didn't have to
[11:32] <Xal2> or would the latest kernel from kernel.com be alright? I just need a way to get into Linux.
[11:32] <david_edmundson> bobesponja: it does it by default
[11:32] <bobesponja> ltmon: well I do :/
[11:32] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Flash 9 is a bit more faster then 7...but it still has where the feedback is a bit jumpy...especially on games..do you think this is something to do with a dependency?
[11:32] <david_edmundson> Xal2: you're probably best with the one fm the ubntu guys
[11:32] <ltmon> iin any case "sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmount"
[11:32] <Xal2> I replaced mobos, reinstalled windows, and now I cannot use a live Cd because it's not compatible with the IDE controller on my new board.
[11:32] <david_edmundson> Xal2: though the one from kernel.org is pretty much the same
[11:32] <Xal2> Meh, they're not talking.
[11:32] <Xal2> oh ok
[11:33] <david_edmundson> main difference we'll be the initial .config file
[11:33] <david_edmundson> (list of modules to include/not include) which you're changing anyway
[11:33] <Xal2> alright
[11:33] <zorglu_> otaku-san: no idea :) what about the video playing ? the video from google takes a lot of cpu for me and they buffer the whole file even video of 1h30m....
[11:33] <Xal2> that's easy enough
[11:33] <zorglu_> otaku-san: the flash7 i meant
[11:33] <jende_> magical_trevsky: hello???
[11:34] <bobesponja> ltmon: now I get libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.
[11:34] <jende_> magicmike: hello???
[11:34] <magical_trevsky> jende_, 
[11:34] <JosefK> bobesponja: might be easier to fix it in sudoers?
[11:34] <jende_> magical_trevsky: oops, sorry I meant magicalmike
[11:34] <magical_trevsky> no worries :p
[11:34] <zorglu_> Xal2: you need that only to install it on your own box ?!?
[11:34] <ltmon> bobesponja: weird... let me have a look at my setup
[11:34] <Xal2> Yes
[11:35] <otaku-san> zorglu_: vids do the same thing...probably something it depends on is a older version and it needs a newer one...or it's not exactly right...or... the possibility could be endless
[11:35] <zorglu_> !netinstall
[11:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:35] <Xal2> I need a way to reinstall GRUB for one, and then I can compile my own kernel once I'm on my box
[11:35] <Xal2> I don't want to reinstall the OS
[11:35] <bobesponja> how do I rollback the sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmount ?
[11:35] <zorglu_> Xal2: you knew those links ? may be of help
[11:35] <JosefK> u-s
[11:35] <ltmon> sudo chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmount
[11:35] <david_edmundson> bobesponja: sudo chmod u-s /usr/.....
[11:35] <Xal2> That probably wouldn't work with the current release.
[11:36] <Xal2> Like I said, my IDE controller does not work with the current Linux kernel on Kubuntu live CD
[11:36] <zorglu_> otaku-san: hmm toobad
[11:36] <david_edmundson> ouchy,
[11:36] <Xal2> It's not a big deal, just some work for me.
[11:36] <david_edmundson> that's a good attitude to have
[11:36] <bobesponja> ok I did 'sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt' instead of 'sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmount' and it seems ok
[11:36] <Xal2> It's all a learning experience ^^
[11:37] <ltmon> bobesponja: check the following packages are installed - samba, samba-common, libsmbclient, smbclient, smbfs
[11:37] <david_edmundson> Xal2: do you have any other live CD's that do work?
[11:37] <Xal2> I think I'll be alright with the custom live CD guide from Ubuntu.
[11:37] <Xal2> No
[11:37] <Xal2> Only in the latest kernel is this controller working, afaik
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> Xal2: there are howto's on building a kernel on the ubuntu forums, are you new to linux or an old hand?
[11:37] <jende_> Xal2: not even a knoppix or kanotix will work?strage...
[11:38] <bobesponja> ltmon: yes they are cause I usually mount them using the smbmount command as root, I would just like to be able to do that as regular user
[11:38] <otaku-san> zorglu_: I'll just poke around on google...hehehe
[11:38] <Xal2> A lot of people are havng trouble with the new Intel P965 boards with JMicron controllers.
[11:38] <ltmon> ahhh right
[11:38] <Xal2> TheGateKeeper, I've compiled a few kernels on my own.
[11:38] <ltmon> bobesponja:: does that mean you have a fstab entry for each share?
[11:38] <Xal2> The problem will be reinstalling GRUB. I usually run into trouble with that.
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> Xal2: :-)
[11:38] <david_edmundson> Xal2: but compiling a kernel without being able to access the HD...I'm not seeing how you're going to manage that
[11:38] <TheGateKeeper> what trouble?
[11:38] <Xal2> I'm certainly not a Linux pro though.
[11:39] <ArmedGeek> is there currently any reason *not* to upgrade to edgy ?
[11:39] <Xal2> I have a second computer.
[11:39] <Xal2> ^^
[11:39] <david_edmundson> AH!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:39] <david_edmundson> I should probably have realised that!
[11:39] <bobesponja> ltmon: I just reenter the full command
[11:39] <Xal2> or I could have been using VMWare within Windows.
[11:39] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: howdy
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> jende_: hiya
[11:39] <Xal2> Is GRUB easy to reinstall? I use Windows sometimes, so I have it installed too. With my new board, I had to reinstall Windows, thus removing the GRUB bootloader.
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> jende_: how are you doing?
[11:40] <david_edmundson> no you couldn't. VMWare uses your current hardware, for the most part, so you'd still have the IDE issue. anyway...
[11:40] <zorglu_> !mbr
[11:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:40] <ltmon> bobesponja: one way you can do it is with an fstab entry, and then setting "user" in the options
[11:40] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: well, I'm doinf better now...had a horrible kinda day
[11:40] <zorglu_> Xal2: the above link will help
[11:40] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: well, I'm doing better now...had a horrible kinda day
[11:40] <Xal2> thanks ^^
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> Xal2: yes it is
[11:40] <ltmon> bobesponja: can you send me the command you are using to mount also
[11:40] <Xal2> I wish that guide was out last year.
[11:40] <bobesponja> ok now the share is mounted in '~/smb4k/MYBOX', is there a way to mount it in media or mnt for every body?
[11:41] <Xal2> It was a pain to get grub reinstalled. I screwed things up somehow.
[11:41] <jende_> TheGateKeeper: and you? how are you today?
[11:41] <ltmon> bobesponja: have a look at the smb4k configuration panel, it has an option for the base mount point
[11:41] <bobesponja> ltmon: //winxp/sancho    /media/sancho   smbfs   dmask=777,fmask=777   0       0
[11:41] <bobesponja> that one was in my fstab
[11:42] <otaku-san> ArmedGeek: not really...it's still a bit beta...but I've seen alot of people with it so...you could try it
[11:42] <ltmon> bobesponja: add "user" to your fstab entry to allow user mounting and unmounting ("users" for mutliple users), and possibly "uid" and "gid" for user and group permissions
[11:42] <ArmedGeek> otaku-san: thanks
[11:42] <ltmon> bobesponja: e.g. users,uid=1000,gid=100
[11:43] <lyndy_j> hi. i want to resize my partitions.  need help pls...
[11:43] <otaku-san> ArmedGeek: no prob
[11:43] <david_edmundson> lyndy_j: what file systems are on there?
[11:43] <david_edmundson> do you want to keep what's on all of them?
[11:43] <lyndy_j> NTFS (with win xp  on it) and ext 3 (i think) with linux
[11:44] <fille> Yellow
[11:44] <lyndy_j> i want to decrease the Win part and increase the linux one
[11:44] <david_edmundson> good man.
[11:44] <david_edmundson> ok, we can't resize a partition if there are any blocks at the end
[11:44] <otaku-san> ext 4 is coming out soon isn't it?
[11:45] <david_edmundson> you know disk degfragmentation tool in Windows?
[11:45] <david_edmundson> you see all the stripes?
[11:45] <lyndy_j> yea
[11:45] <david_edmundson> we can't make it smaller than the left hand most stripe
[11:45] <david_edmundson> that represents physical data on the disk
[11:45] <lyndy_j> ok
[11:46] <lyndy_j> well its 73% free at the moment
[11:46] <david_edmundson> a partition shows where one FS starts and ends, we can't have it start before the end of the data as it'd go mental
[11:46] <lyndy_j> surely i can use some of that ??
[11:46] <david_edmundson> yeah, problem is NTFS tends to scatter some files
[11:47] <lyndy_j> ahh, i see
[11:47] <david_edmundson> meh..let's just go with it, and see what it says
[11:47] <Hydra> hi
[11:47] <david_edmundson> lyndy_j: open a program called qtparted
[11:47] <david_edmundson> if you haven't got it, install it
[11:48] <lyndy_j> where can i find it? it doesn't appear in applications
[11:48] <Bob_> marian !!
[11:48] <lyndy_j> although adept says it is installed
[11:48] <Bob_> marc !!
[11:48] <david_edmundson> press alt+f2 and type in qtparted
[11:48] <zorglu_> !kbuildsyscoca
[11:48] <ubotu> If your kmenu is out of date, like after installing an application and not founding it in kmenu, you should type "kbuildsyscoca" in a terminal to update it. It will rebuild the kde configuration cache.
[11:49] <david_edmundson> it's probably hidden in system or somewhere
[11:49] <marc_> Bob...!!
[11:49] <zorglu_> lyndy_j: see the last ubotu message
[11:49] <Bob_> Oui !!
[11:49] <Hydra> can someone tell me if the kubuntu installer supports FAKERAID-0 yet?  I have three machines here, one nforce3, one nforce4 one via k8t800pro all running raid-0
[11:49] <david_edmundson> zorglu_: are you the resident helpful guy then, you seem to be always here :-D
[11:49] <marc_> C'est qui ???
[11:50] <zorglu_> david_edmundson: im a bot :)
[11:50] <david_edmundson> damnit, I knew it
[11:50] <Bob_> C'est moi, Bob !!
[11:50] <lyndy_j> it says "could not run the specified program"
[11:50] <zorglu_> marc_: he is somebody speaking english :)
[11:50] <david_edmundson> really?
[11:50] <david_edmundson> that's mental
[11:50] <david_edmundson> fire up a console
[11:50] <marc_> I cna;t seem to play any DVD's....
[11:50] <Bob_> No Prob ..
[11:50] <david_edmundson> let's go into a language I understand
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[11:51] <bobesponja> ltmon: //winxp/sancho    /media/sancho   smbfs users,uid=1000, gid=100   0       0 I get line 27 in /etc/fstab is bad
[11:51] <Bob_> ok
[11:51] <ubuntu> hola gentita
[11:51] <Bob_> hola !!
[11:51] <david_edmundson> ..the only reason I help people on here, is because I like the "BING" noise konversation makes when people type my name
[11:51] <ubuntu> hi people
[11:51] <marc_> any helpful tips to get DVD's playing on Ubuntu,...
[11:51] <Bob_> It's easy !!
[11:52] <zorglu_> !dvd
[11:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:52] <zorglu_> !codecs
[11:52] <lyndy_j> sory im relatively new to IRC
[11:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <zorglu_> may be of use too
[11:52] <david_edmundson> damn. zorglu_if you are a bot, I hope the source is GPL. it's pretty elite.
[11:52] <marc_> I think I downloaded every codec known to man...and still no go.
[11:53] <david_edmundson> marc_: the codec you need is libdvdcss
[11:53] <Hydra> anyone know the answer to my fakeraid question?
[11:53] <marc_> I'm dying to see my DVD copy of Pinky and The Brain.
[11:53] <zorglu_> Hydra: i dont...
[11:53] <Xal2> Hmm, I'm making this custom live CD, and am purging a few things. I try to remove bluez-utils for instance, and it says it will also remove kubuntu-desktop*
[11:53] <marc_> David...I will see I have not already tried that one...it looks familiar. But I will double check.
[11:54] <Xal2> Is it removing the entire kubuntu-desktop package, or just that element?
[11:54] <david_edmundson> Xal2: in short it's fine
[11:54] <Xal2> ok
[11:54] <CNE158_2> ok
[11:54] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson:what do i do in console?
[11:54] <david_edmundson> Xal2: kubuntu desktop is what's called a metapackage, it contains nothing, but depends on everything in kubuntu so it all get's installed
[11:54] <Xal2> oh ok
[11:55] <david_edmundson> lyndy_j: now type qtparted
[11:55] <ltmon> bobesponja: an example from my fstab...
[11:55] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: it says COMMAND NOT FOUND
[11:56] <ltmon> /Imp/backup /home/ltmon/Work/Imp-Backup smbfs noauto,username=xxxx,password=xxxx,users,uid=1000,gid=100  0 0
[11:56] <david_edmundson> bah, type "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[11:56] <david_edmundson> (I tried to tab complete that in here :-$ )
[11:56] <bobesponja> ltmon: thanx
[11:56] <ltmon> bobesponja: i can't see the problem with yours :(
[11:57] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: ok. wasn't installed . will install it now . sry
[11:57] <david_edmundson> it's alright. I can't understand what adept says either
[11:59] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: got it now. thanks
[11:59] <david_edmundson> now fire it up..(will require root, so do sudo qtparted)
[12:00] <Hydra> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270493&highlight=raid-0
[12:00] <lyndy_j> got it open
[12:00] <Hydra> ^ the last post.  edgy ships with an old version of dmraid :(
[12:00] <david_edmundson> lyndy_j: let me fire it up, hold on
[12:01] <david_edmundson> ok..I think it should be just a question of clicking the partition and selectign resize
[12:01] <Hydra> come on kubuntu guys, sort this out!  raid-0 is very popular these days, pretty much every one i know uses raid-0 for performance these days
[12:02] <david_edmundson> Hydra: A lot of the "cheap" RAID things are unsported because there's so many
[12:02] <david_edmundson> software raid is the best long term option
[12:02] <magicmike> Hey, what up jende?
[12:02] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: ok. so i can make NTFS smaller then. I need to make the swap part bigger
[12:03] <david_edmundson> I doubt you mean you want to make swap bigger
[12:03] <david_edmundson> make NTFS smaller first
[12:03] <david_edmundson> swap~=virtual memory in windows
[12:03] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: the system crashed earlier and got a message NOT ENOUGH SWAP MEMORY
[12:03] <david_edmundson> but we have it on a seperate file system so it's faster.
[12:03] <david_edmundson> oh right
[12:03] <david_edmundson> then maybe you do !
[12:03] <david_edmundson> I stand corrected!
[12:04] <lyndy_j> currently swap is 713 mb
[12:04] <magicmike> Got that figured out. Hawkwind and Josefk started throwing questions that made me think.
[12:04] <david_edmundson> should be plenty huge
[12:04] <magicmike> Thanks, guys.
[12:05] <yacoob> hm
[12:05] <yacoob> any estimate when RC turns into release? (edgy I mean)
[12:05] <ltmon> lyndy_j: that's heaps of swap.... how much physical memory do you have?
[12:06] <david_edmundson> *thinks
[12:06] <david_edmundson> lyndy_j: type "mount" into a terminal for me
[12:07] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: 40 g in total. 23 g for windows. 15.5 for linux
[12:08] <lyndy_j> david_edmundson: shall i paste the result for you here?
[12:08] <Xal2> is there a way to determine the current size of a folder and all of its subdirectories?
[12:08] <ltmon> lyndy_j: type "swapon -s" to check your swap
[12:08] <LjL> Xal2: du
[12:08] <JosefK> Xal2: du -ksh .
[12:08] <Hydra> david_edmundson, nforce3 and nforce3, intel ich5 and ich6 all support raid-0 and are very popular
[12:08] <Hydra> there should be out-of-the-box support from them (not to mention nforce5/am2 chipsets)
[12:09] <Hydra> sure, ditch highpoint, promise and silicon image support, but at least get raid-0 support for the main chipsets!
[12:09] <david_edmundson> silicon image is the main one isn't it?
[12:09] <Hydra> from/for
[12:09] <Hydra> david_edmundson, no not really
[12:10] <david_edmundson> my SATA card arrives monday that's silicon image. (I know that's sata controller not raid controller)
[12:10] <Hydra> sure, they have a lot of chips installed on other motherboards, but the chipsets need the support first
[12:10] <ltmon> Hydra: The nvidia ones are really software raid that requires special drivers (e.g. nvraid)  and often don't have Linux drivers anyway (last I looked nvidia didn't... but that was a while back)
[12:10] <Xal2> The last number the command outputs is the size in kilobytes?
[12:10] <Hydra> silicon image is who i'd suggest supporting first AFTER regular chipset support
[12:10] <david_edmundson> Xal2: add -h
[12:11] <david_edmundson> -h = human readable
[12:11] <Hydra> followed by highpoint and then promise
[12:11] <Xal2> ah