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| Q-FUNK | anybody knows how to enable the svn plug-in in anjuta? | 12:24 |
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| herzi | ajmitch: still around? | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | yes | 01:04 |
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| Nafallo | ajmitch: can I upload a new trivial package after I've tested that it builds and works? :-) | 01:08 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: hi btw :-). I don't think we said that today yet. | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: explain what you mean by new trivial package? | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | something that has to go through NEW? | 01:09 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: I forked dholbach blubuntu-look and made a wave-look of it. yea, has to go through NEW :-). | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | then you probably can't upload just on my ok | 01:10 |
| Nafallo | hmm, ok. bug+subscribe someone then? | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | even then you'd have to talk really nicely to archive admins to get them to process NEW | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | yes | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | bug+subscribe motu-uvf | 01:11 |
| Nafallo | alright :-) | 01:11 |
| mwolson | i wonder if it would be useful to have a module for an Apple Remote driver in edgy+1 ... i've made one at http://kilobyte.rcac.purdue.edu/ubuntu already called apple-remote-source | 01:12 |
| bhale | !revu | 01:13 |
| ubotu | REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 01:13 |
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| crimsun | does anyone use lirc? | 01:51 |
| mwolson | crimsun: i recently played around with it and got it working with gxine | 01:53 |
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| crimsun | mwolson: do you mind testing a merge candidate in, oh, 30 minutes? | 01:55 |
| crimsun | I'm wading through these src:lirc bugs, and most of them can be closed with a merge | 01:55 |
| mwolson | crimsun: it depends on what you want me to do -- if it's bug triage, i don't have time for that atm | 01:56 |
| mwolson | if it's just checking to see whether it breaks something in my own config, sure | 01:56 |
| crimsun | mwolson: I would need you to test the lirc-modules-source binary package to check if it generates a valid lirc-modules* binary package that can be installed and configured successfully. | 01:56 |
| mwolson | i could test the default setup for that, since i ran across some compilation issues with the current lirc-modules-source (though i realized later that i didn't even need these modules), so sure | 01:58 |
| mwolson | where do i get the candidate? | 01:58 |
| crimsun | give me about 25 minutes | 01:58 |
| crimsun | I need to triple-check my merged source package | 01:58 |
| mwolson | ok | 01:58 |
| crimsun | mwolson: http://tiber.tauware.de/~crimsun/ | 02:18 |
| crimsun | mwolson: I've verified it builds and installs against linux-headers-$(uname -r) [using -generic] | 02:18 |
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| crimsun | mwolson: please test lirc-modules-source (build, install) and lirc (runs). Remember to unload your current lirc modules first. | 02:19 |
| crimsun | mwolson: for the record, this merge should close bug 28941, 29641, 45400, | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 28941 in lirc "lirc-modules-source package doesn't install the /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf file." [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/28941 | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 29641 in lirc "Can't reconfigure lirc" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29641 | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 45400 in lirc "uderquoted definition of AC_PATH_LIRC" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45400 | 02:20 |
| crimsun | and bug 53111, 67258 | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 53111 in lirc "Unable to build lirc_gpio module" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53111 | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67258 in lirc "Source package doesn't build" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67258 | 02:20 |
| crimsun | oops, and bug 45703 | 02:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 45703 in lirc "Unable to use modules in dapper" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45703 | 02:21 |
| mwolson | ok, already found one (probably minor) issue; shall i paste the output on rafb.net? | 02:24 |
| crimsun | sure | 02:24 |
| mwolson | http://rafb.net/paste/results/MMvwPd22.html | 02:29 |
| crimsun | hmm. | 02:31 |
| crimsun | I take it you don't have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed? | 02:31 |
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| crimsun | it definitely compiles and installs; I need the actual lirc usage to be tested | 02:33 |
| mwolson | crimsun: i think module-assistant is supposed to take care of that for me | 02:33 |
| mwolson | oh | 02:33 |
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| mwolson | well, usage of lirc-modules-source is something i can't test, because i don't use any of those modules (dev/input is all i need) | 02:36 |
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| mwolson | but yes, it does build properly now | 02:36 |
| crimsun | ok, can you test the actual lirc functionality? | 02:37 |
| crimsun | I don't have any IR device(s) here | 02:37 |
| mwolson | sure | 02:37 |
| crimsun | also, which $arch are you using? | 02:38 |
| mwolson | generic i386 | 02:39 |
| crimsun | does anyone use [!386] , have an IR device, and is willing to test the lirc merge? | 02:39 |
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| mwolson | hmm ... lircrcd does not seem to be loading now (added the first line to ~/.lircrc to enable it) | 02:45 |
| mwolson | though irw is showing events going throuugh | 02:45 |
| mwolson | that could be because liblircclient0 and lirc are now out-of-sync version-wise | 02:46 |
| crimsun | I presume you're using lirc_0.8.0-9ubuntu1_i386.deb (and possibly lirc-x_0.8.0-9ubuntu1_i386.deb)? | 02:46 |
| crimsun | oh, d'oh | 02:46 |
| mwolson | yes | 02:46 |
| crimsun | sorry about that | 02:47 |
| crimsun | refresh the dir | 02:47 |
| crimsun | (forgot to copy over those debs) | 02:48 |
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| mwolson | after installing the new liblircclient0, it works again, though i had to restart lircd afterward for it to start working | 02:51 |
| crimsun | ok, thank you for testing. | 02:52 |
| mwolson | you're welcome | 02:53 |
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| Nafallo | ajmitch: I'm not supposed to sub the archive admins for bug #67280 yet, right? :-) | 03:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67280 in Ubuntu "[NEW] wave-look_0.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67280 | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: correct | 03:54 |
| Nafallo | okidoki :-) | 03:54 |
| Nafallo | I'll just wait now then ;-) | 03:55 |
| imbrandon | moins all | 04:28 |
| Nafallo | imbrandon: gnight :-) | 04:29 |
| Nafallo | gnight *. I need to sleep. | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | heh later Nafallo | 04:30 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | hi Hobbsee | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:40 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 04:40 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:44 |
| imbrandon | ;P | 06:45 |
| imbrandon | hoya Hobbsee | 06:45 |
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| Werdnum | hello | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | heay | 06:46 |
| imbrandon | ello Werdnum | 06:46 |
| Werdnum | #ubuntu-devel says I should bug you guys to get involved | 06:46 |
| imbrandon | sure, we're in a release freeze right now, but read up on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 06:47 |
| imbrandon | is a good start | 06:47 |
| Werdnum | hmm | 06:48 |
| Werdnum | it's not particularly informative | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | Werdnum, well what are you wanting to know ? | 06:49 |
| Werdnum | the site is very information-dense, however it's difficult to figure out what's relevant to me | 06:50 |
| imbrandon | exactly, i'll nudge you in the right direction if you give me a little more to go on then "i want to help" hehe | 06:50 |
| Werdnum | I'd like to see something like "so you want to help out with coding on ubuntu" with a step by step or point form list of ideas. | 06:50 |
| Werdnum | well, I've done a lot of C#, quite a bit of Perl, quite a bit of C++, and a little on most mainstream languages | 06:51 |
| Werdnum | C++ primarily for windows, though | 06:51 |
| imbrandon | there realy isnt one, as 90% of ubuntu isnt "code" its packages from upstream code, so if you want to code as in c++ or such your better off looking upstream | 06:51 |
| Werdnum | well.. I'm pretty flexible | 06:52 |
| imbrandon | e.g pick a program you like ( say your favorate music app ) and grab the source for it , talk to upstream and code away | 06:52 |
| StevenK | Werdnum: If you know Ada, I have a bug you can fix. :-) | 06:52 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 06:52 |
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| Werdnum | I was just giving you a rough overview of my coding experience -- basically I've used Kubuntu for a while, and love it, and am interested in giving back. | 06:52 |
| Werdnum | nah, sorry, no Ada | 06:52 |
| PWill | Is the Flash 9 beta going to be in the Edgy repos? | 06:52 |
| Werdnum | I can probably figure it out :-P | 06:52 |
| PWill | Or will we wait for Feisty? | 06:52 |
| imbrandon | PWill, not in the edgy repos its too late but seveas and me both have it in our edgy repos | 06:53 |
| imbrandon | Werdnum, great | 06:53 |
| PWill | What's the URL? | 06:53 |
| imbrandon | Werdnum, we always welcome help | 06:53 |
| Werdnum | :-) | 06:54 |
| imbrandon | PWill, http://seveas.imbrandon.com | 06:54 |
| Werdnum | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Tasks | 06:54 |
| imbrandon | is one mirror | 06:54 |
| Werdnum | looks promising | 06:54 |
| PWill | imbrandon: Thanks | 06:54 |
| imbrandon | Werdnum, if your interested in kubuntu packaging and helping squish bugs ( thats actualy one of the things i do too , kubuntu rocks shhh ) first off familiarize your self with deb packagaing ( url to follow ) then start picking bugs in LP and poke us in #kubuntu-devel or here with patches / fixes | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | !package guide | 06:55 |
| ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 06:55 |
| imbrandon | Werdnum, if you want more specifics than that i need more info to go on ;) | 06:56 |
| imbrandon | Werdnum, basicly hang out in here and there and read those, ask us questions and you'll catch on fairly quickly i'd assume | 06:57 |
| Werdnum | mmmmk | 06:57 |
| imbrandon | i know its kinda dauting and gerneral but you stated a general goal ( eg "helping out" ) so kinda hard to be more specific untill you kinda drop into a niche you wanna help with | 06:59 |
| Werdnum | thanks | 06:59 |
| Werdnum | :=P | 06:59 |
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| imbrandon | Werdnum, here is a little bit of info on kubuntu specifics to packaging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Packaging/Kubuntu | 07:06 |
| imbrandon | just fyi | 07:06 |
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| Werdnum | imbrandon: is there a bugtrackerof things to do? | 07:19 |
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| imbrandon | https://launchpad.net/ | 07:20 |
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| imbrandon | it holds all our teams, bugtracker profiles etc etc etc | 07:21 |
| Werdnum | sneaky | 07:22 |
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| imbrandon | sneaky ? | 07:22 |
| Werdnum | ignore my twisted humour | 07:24 |
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| Fujitsu | imbrandon, ping. | 10:15 |
| imbrandon | Fujitsu, pong | 10:15 |
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| imbrandon | Fujitsu, ?? | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, hi. | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | heya | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | I've reproduced that not-installing thing with flashplugin-nonfree... | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | On a complete reinstallation. | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | It never unpacks the .deb. | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | Your repo is stuffed, it appears. | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | wow thats strange, works here ( and for a few others ) but i'll check again | 10:20 |
| imbrandon | might be messing up on the md5 sums | 10:20 |
| === crimsun mutters | ||
| === Fujitsu wonders what about. | ||
| crimsun | the flashplugin-nonfree trigger | 10:22 |
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| pirast | Hobbsee, what went wrong in uploading the dsc in bug 38093? | 11:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38093 in enigmail-locales "[SYNC] [UNMETDEPS] engmail-locales has unmet dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38093 | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | pirast: it was being highly painful - wouldnt generate the .changes file | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | etc | 11:02 |
| === Hobbsee thinks there's something strange in her scripts or something | ||
| pirast | Hobbsee, :-( | 11:03 |
| pirast | now i have to find someone else to upload it. | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you'd better fix that | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: thanks for offering :) | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | actually, i'm not sure if Fujitsu did it. | 11:08 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, no, I didn't end up doing that. | 11:08 |
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| StevenK | Ah, it did gen the changes file, it just didn't include the orig. | 11:08 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah | 11:08 |
| Fujitsu | I can't find the initial Debian version. | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | using -sa and everything | 11:09 |
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| StevenK | Hobbsee: Hrrm. -S -sa should have been cool. | 11:09 |
| pirast | Hobbsee, you downloaded "enigmail-locales_0.9x-20061010.orig.tar.gz" as far as I see.. | 11:12 |
| pirast | mhpf | 11:12 |
| pirast | my fault | 11:12 |
| pirast | looked like being wrong | 11:12 |
| pirast | could anybody else try to upload it then please? | 11:13 |
| StevenK | pirast: Point me at the bug? | 11:14 |
| pirast | StevenK, bug 38093 | 11:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38093 in enigmail-locales "[SYNC] [UNMETDEPS] engmail-locales has unmet dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38093 | 11:14 |
| siretart | morning | 11:14 |
| StevenK | I saw Hobbsee build and install it last night, so I'll just upload it. | 11:15 |
| pirast | would be nice.. thanks | 11:15 |
| StevenK | Uploaded. | 11:19 |
| StevenK | Let's see how Soyuz likes it. | 11:19 |
| pirast | I hope it will like it :-) Tried to days in order to get it working with our Thunderbird :-) | 11:20 |
| pirast | *two | 11:20 |
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| palski | I have a fix for Bug #49640, but I'm not sure where should I send it | 11:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 49640 in xchat-systray "xchat-xsys crash" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49640 | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: it wont like it. | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | palski: what's the fix, and can you stick a debdiff on the bottom of that bug? | 11:31 |
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| phanatic | morning | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | hey phanatic | 11:32 |
| palski | Hobbsee: it is a code-fix | 11:33 |
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| palski | I havent' use depdiff before, where should I go to study? | 11:35 |
| phanatic | heya Hobbsee | 11:35 |
| imbrandon | palski, debdiff old.dsc new.dsc > package.debdiff | 11:35 |
| palski | imbrandon: thanks, but how can I build a new.dsc? | 11:37 |
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| giskard | hello | 12:31 |
| jsmidt | Hello, I maintain texmaker for debian. Texmaker fails to build in edgy. I have fixed Ubuntu's package. How can I upload the changes? | 12:32 |
| seaLne | jsmidt: possibly file a bug with the diff? | 12:38 |
| jsmidt | seaLne, thanks. I just did that. | 12:39 |
| jsmidt | just let me know if you need me to do anything else. I would like to see texmaker working when edgy is released. :) | 12:40 |
| seaLne | it depends on the severity as unfortunatly edgy is frozen now | 12:40 |
| seaLne | but if it currently dosen't work, thats bad :) | 12:41 |
| jsmidt | Too bad. It really is a minor chance. One line of code and one dependancy change. :( | 12:41 |
| seaLne | Bug #67333 | 12:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67333 in texmaker "texmaker fails to build on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67333 | 12:41 |
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| Fujitsu | jsmidt, can you please provide a debdiff? | 12:51 |
| jsmidt | Upload that to launchpad? | 12:51 |
| Fujitsu | Yep, attached to that bug report. | 12:52 |
| jsmidt | Okay, one second | 12:52 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 12:52 |
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| jsmidt | Fujitsu, I uploaded a debdiff, tell me if it is what you wanted | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | ... that doesn't look like a debdiff to me... | 01:03 |
| Fujitsu | Try `debdiff first.dsc last.dsc' | 01:03 |
| Fujitsu | (replace first.dsc and last.dsc with the appropriate names) | 01:03 |
| jsmidt | sorry, I for whatever reason thought you wanted debdiff first.deb last.deb. I uploaded the correct debdiff | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, OK. | 01:07 |
| Fujitsu | Now that's a little more readable :) | 01:08 |
| jsmidt | :) | 01:08 |
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| Fujitsu | (I'm looking at it now, I'll upload it if it's sane) | 01:11 |
| jsmidt | thanks | 01:12 |
| Fujitsu | Is that extra dependency necessary? Why would it have ever built if it wasn't? | 01:12 |
| Fujitsu | *if it was | 01:12 |
| jsmidt | It is necessary in Unstable. I'll admit I just assumed the same for edgy when building in Edgy gave the same error I was getting in Unstable | 01:13 |
| jsmidt | By the way, Ubuntu Rocks! You guys seem to have pulled off a miracle. | 01:15 |
| Fujitsu | I've had very little to do with it :P | 01:16 |
| jsmidt | A miracle in the sense that in just a couple years you have set the new standard of what constitutes a great linux distro. | 01:17 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, it has been quite amazing. | 01:18 |
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| StevenK | Fujitsu: Yay for the modesty. | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK, I have had almost nothing to do with it! Most of the packages I've touched are practically worthless, and they're all in universe, and all the changes have been very minor.. | 01:24 |
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| herzi | ajmitch: around? | 01:25 |
| Fujitsu | jsmidt, it builds fine without that extra dependency. | 01:25 |
| jsmidt | okay, If it is not needed that's good to know | 01:26 |
| herzi | somehow my uploads to revu don't appear on the revu website | 01:27 |
| herzi | do the packages need to pass smoe filter? | 01:27 |
| jsmidt | Do you want me to recompile without the extra dependency? | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | herzi, did you add yourself to ubuntu-univserse-contributors, and get the keyring synced? | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | jsmidt, I have done so. | 01:27 |
| jsmidt | Fujitsu, thanks | 01:27 |
| herzi | Fujitsu: i added myself, yes | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | Now I need to get this approved for upload... | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | herzi, did your request that the keyring be synced? | 01:28 |
| herzi | and iirc, someone asked for a sync between my application and my upload | 01:28 |
| herzi | so "maybe not" | 01:28 |
| herzi | is there a way to check for this? | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | Did you build with debuild -S -sa? | 01:28 |
| herzi | yes | 01:29 |
| Fujitsu | Which package is it? | 01:30 |
| herzi | bioapi, pam-bioapi, bioapi-bsp-upek | 01:31 |
| herzi | there's still lots of stuff to do for these packages, but I wanted to have a source upload so others can report their results with these packages | 01:32 |
| Fujitsu | OK, you'll have to get a REVU admin to look at it... THe most likely cause is your key not being on the keyring. | 01:32 |
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| herzi | siretart: ping | 02:06 |
| siretart | herzi: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I'll respond when I am around. | 02:06 |
| herzi | siretart: ping, revu-administration :-D | 02:06 |
| StevenK | siretart: Bwahaha, shades of tfheen. | 02:07 |
| Nafallo | haha | 02:07 |
| herzi | absolutely, though siretart has got a friendlier package around "i don't resond to empty pings" | 02:08 |
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| cyberquiet | hi, I ran into problems while upgrading from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.5... | 03:03 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu (n=Fujitsu@h26n1fls33o917.telia.com) <-- hmm... | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | cyberquiet: which problems? and dapper or edgy? | 03:04 |
| cyberquiet | dapper | 03:04 |
| cyberquiet | first, the startkde script was trying to start kdeinit by running a nonexistent command called start_kdeinit | 03:05 |
| cyberquiet | so I had to modify the startkde script by hand | 03:05 |
| cyberquiet | secondly, I was able to update most kde apps without upgrading the kdelibs packages, but this made the apps unusable. after updating kdelibs all seems to run fine | 03:08 |
| cyberquiet | apparently also now notifications in konversation do not work anymore... | 03:11 |
| cyberquiet | Hobbsee: can you hear me? ;-) | 03:15 |
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| Hobbsee | cyberquiet: why wouldnt you update the libs with the rest of the packages???? | 03:17 |
| cyberquiet | Hobbsee: I forgot to! but I think if a package is essential for another there should be a dependency.... | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | cyberquiet: did you use the repository for this, or install the packages individually? | 03:18 |
| cyberquiet | I use synaptic | 03:19 |
| cyberquiet | with the repositories provided on www.kubuntu.org | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | so the libs would have automatically gotten upgraded as well as the packages, if you'd done a standard upgrade? that's what usually happens | 03:20 |
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| cyberquiet | it didn't happen in my case | 03:20 |
| === Hobbsee has noticed weird stuff with the konvi notifications though - not sure what's going on there | ||
| cyberquiet | have you problems with the notifications, too? | 03:21 |
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| nightrat | hi | 03:24 |
| nightrat | anybody knowledge about building mozilla trunk on edgy? i saw a bugreport about that, there is a workaround mentioned, does anyone know something about that issue? building on dapper with gcc 4.1 works, but fails on edgy with gcc 4.1 | 03:24 |
| cyberquiet | Hobbsee: it seems kdelibs4c2a is in the dependecies, but kdelibs-data and kdelibs4-dev are not. not sure about that, anyway | 03:26 |
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| cyberquiet | I was wrong: after looking at dpkg.log I can say I upgraded manually also kdelibs4c2a | 03:28 |
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| cyberquiet | Hobbsee: anyway, this is not a big issue, anyone could fix that. but the first problem I encountered completely put my KDE to its knees, so it should be fixed if it's a bug | 03:31 |
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| cyberquiet | wow! now the start_kdeinit command is in my /usr/bin folder! it must gotten installed by the upgrade to the kdelibs, so why not fix those damn dependencies? | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | they should be fixed. | 03:37 |
| cyberquiet | Hobbsee: who is the one responsible of packaging those packages | 03:38 |
| cyberquiet | ? | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | cyberquiet: Riddell. you're also the first person to report that problem though | 03:39 |
| cyberquiet | but I exclude I am also the first upgrading to kde3.5.5! :-P | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | possibly. i thought we had more people who have tested that | 03:41 |
| Riddell | we did | 03:41 |
| cyberquiet | don't know what could went wrong... | 03:41 |
| cyberquiet | with me | 03:42 |
| cyberquiet | for example synaptic says me konqueror requires only kdelibs4c2a version 3.5.3 or greater, but without upgrading to 3.5.5 it was unusable | 03:45 |
| cyberquiet | when i say konqueror, I intend konqueror 3.5.5 | 03:46 |
| StevenK | So the shlibs file for kdelibs4c2a needs to be tightened, and all KDE apps rebuilt. *Not* cool, about one week before release. | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: it's dapper. | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | !info kdelibs4c2a dapper | 03:47 |
| ubotu | kdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB | 03:47 |
| StevenK | Oh. | 03:47 |
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| Hobbsee | StevenK: and its' just a >=3.5.3 thing, which will usually tend to still work | 03:48 |
| cyberquiet | sorry but i must go offline a second, I hope we'll be able to tackle the issue | 03:50 |
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| cyberquiet | I'm here again :-) | 03:54 |
| cyberquiet | no news? | 03:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:58 |
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| lophyte | !seen superm1 | 04:29 |
| ubotu | I last saw superm1 (n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1) 16h 11m 53s ago, quiting: "Quitting, send all complaints > /dev/null" | 04:30 |
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| tuxmaniac | !seen sabdfl | 04:35 |
| ubotu | sabdfl is on IRC right now! | 04:36 |
| tuxmaniac | :-) | 04:36 |
| Q-FUNK | :D | 04:36 |
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| === Nafallo adds server-xen0 to a nafallo1 branch :-) | ||
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| ecki | hello | 05:19 |
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| siretart | herzi: and I do read backlog ;) | 06:41 |
| herzi | great | 06:41 |
| herzi | can you sync the revo keyring please? | 06:41 |
| herzi | revu | 06:42 |
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| siretart | running | 06:48 |
| herzi | thanks a lot | 06:49 |
| rmjb | hello all, I'm looking at udev, the one in edgy is based on 093-0 but I can't find that version in debian unstable. They have version 092-2 then 093-1, in a case like this, is this a pure ubuntu package? i.e. one that's not synced with debian? | 06:51 |
| herzi | rmjb: experimental? | 06:51 |
| rmjb | unstable | 06:52 |
| herzi | did you also look at debian experimental? | 06:52 |
| siretart | syncing keyring finished | 06:53 |
| herzi | siretart: thanks a lot | 06:53 |
| rmjb | where can I find package info for experimental? on packages.debian.com they list stable, testing and unstable | 06:54 |
| rmjb | (I'm new to this) | 06:54 |
| siretart | rmjb: I'd say that udev in ubuntu behaves quite differently compared to debian | 06:54 |
| herzi | it doesn't get listed there | 06:54 |
| herzi | rmjb: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/udev | 06:54 |
| siretart | rmjb: http://patches.ubuntu.com/u/udev/udev_093-0ubuntu18.patch is the patch to the ubuntu package, about 2.2mb big | 06:54 |
| siretart | rmjb: why are you interested in udev? | 06:55 |
| rmjb | siretart: okay, i'm asking because in debian it seems to run at S03 but in edgy it runs at S10 | 06:55 |
| rmjb | and dmraid, which needs to run after udev runs at S02 | 06:55 |
| rmjb | sorry, dmraid is at S03 in edgy | 06:55 |
| herzi | revu is also for multiverse packages? | 06:55 |
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| siretart | herzi: sure | 06:56 |
| herzi | siretart: can you please delete the *bioapi* stuff from my previous upload attempts? | 06:57 |
| herzi | or will they get synced automatically now? | 06:57 |
| rmjb | so the sync (or merge?) on MoM for the lasted dmraid doesn't work since it moved dmraid to S05 to run after udev, but that's in debain | 06:57 |
| rmjb | s/lasted/latest | 06:57 |
| siretart | herzi: queue cleared | 06:59 |
| herzi | thanks again | 06:59 |
| siretart | rmjb: sounds like dmraid needs to be fixed | 06:59 |
| rmjb | yeah, I'd like to take a try at it | 06:59 |
| rmjb | so I'm looking at udev first | 06:59 |
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| rmjb | to start a merge/sync fix, download the updated files from MoM right? | 07:06 |
| rmjb | then work on fixing those? | 07:06 |
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| siretart | rmjb: depends on what you actually want to do. if you want to fix things, apt-get source the package | 07:29 |
| rmjb | ignore the new version on MoM? | 07:29 |
| Nafallo | *sigh* I need a faster amd64 :-/ | 07:29 |
| siretart | rmjb: if you want to merge a new upstream from debian, it is helpfull in many cases to apply the ubuntu debdiff from the last version to the new version, and resolve the conflicts manually | 07:30 |
| siretart | rmjb: MoM does the latter in an automated way. | 07:30 |
| rmjb | okay, I hope I understood what you said... we'll see | 07:31 |
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| siretart | well, MoM leaves you with the conflicts alone, obviously | 07:31 |
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| rmjb | I'd like to resolve the conflict on MoM first before doing my own fix, I saw grab-merge.sh, so I'll use that | 07:33 |
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| rmjb | dh_installdocs 1.0.0.rc9/{CREDITS,KNOWN_BUGS,README,TODO} | 07:55 |
| rmjb | cp: cannot stat `1.0.0.rc9/{CREDITS,KNOWN_BUGS,README,TODO}': No such file or directory | 07:55 |
| rmjb | is that an old or new format for the dh_installdocs command that my current version cannot take? | 07:56 |
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| rmjb | anyone, if I apt-get source a current package the sudo pbuilder build that package it should work right? because I get the above error when I do so | 08:03 |
| rmjb | s/package the sudo/package then sudo | 08:04 |
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| Toadstool | hey everybody | 08:19 |
| rmjb | hey Toadstool | 08:19 |
| Toadstool | hi rmjb | 08:20 |
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| LaserJock | oh for goodness sakes | 08:39 |
| Toadstool | hmm? | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | bug #67441 | 08:39 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67441 in texlive-base "What is added value of texlive packages vis--vis TeXLiveCD from TUG?" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67441 | 08:39 |
| Toadstool | oh, cool | 08:40 |
| Toadstool | I love this kind of bug reports | 08:40 |
| Q-FUNK | ?! | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | well, what gets me most is that somebody just goes and marks it "confirmed" | 08:41 |
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| LaserJock | I just never really know how to respond to stuff like that | 08:43 |
| Q-FUNK | speaking of this, any chances of someone confirming 66821, 66822 and 66823 ? | 08:44 |
| Toadstool | bug 66821, 66822 and 66823 | 08:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66821 in rt2400 "Please sync rt2400 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66821 | 08:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66822 in rt2500 "Please sync rt2500 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66822 | 08:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66823 in rt2570 "Please sync rt2570 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66823 | 08:44 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm not exactly sure what the policy right now is for that | 08:47 |
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| Toadstool | LaserJock: only debian changes which fix the package.. I'd say that this is ok | 08:49 |
| Toadstool | (and I've already confirmed the 1st one) | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but *all* uploads are supposed to be approved by the motu-uvf team | 08:50 |
| Toadstool | yeah, true :/ | 08:50 |
| Nafallo | ey! | 08:56 |
| Nafallo | rt2??0 is in our default kernels ffs :-) | 08:56 |
| Nafallo | from upstream CVS :-) | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | rmjb: just got you mail :-) | 09:00 |
| ajmitch | morning | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 09:00 |
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| LaserJock | yeah? I've been saying that since July :-) | 09:04 |
| kagou | hi | 09:05 |
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| Q-FUNK | Nafallo: rt2x00 ? | 09:11 |
| Nafallo | Q-FUNK: that to. but the ones above are legacy. | 09:12 |
| Q-FUNK | Nafallo: if it's rt2x00, then yes, it's the one that should go into vanilla around 2.6.20 | 09:12 |
| Q-FUNK | yes, they are | 09:12 |
| Nafallo | rt2x00 fr rt61 and 7-something... | 09:12 |
| === Nafallo talks about linux-image now btw | ||
| Q-FUNK | rt2x00 replaces all the above 3 legacy drivers | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | 5 | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 09:13 |
| Q-FUNK | it's a clean rewrite | 09:13 |
| Q-FUNK | yup, plus two rt6x | 09:13 |
| === Nafallo is on the commit mailinglist ;-) | ||
| herzi | ajmitch: ping (fedora-ds) | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | I think rt2500 is what really got me into linux :-) | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | hinting people about ralink breaking gpl and stuff :-) | 09:14 |
| Nafallo | that made it gpl'd :-) | 09:14 |
| Q-FUNK | too bad nobody dared port madwifi stuff to add USB support to the prism driver | 09:15 |
| ajmitch | herzi: hello | 09:18 |
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| herzi | ajmitch: as i wrote in my email: i'd like to get fedora-ds done together with you | 09:20 |
| herzi | how far did you get? | 09:20 |
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| ajmitch | herzi: I started on a few of the supporting packages | 09:33 |
| ajmitch | herzi: we're going to be discussing all this at MV - you may want to join the ubuntu-directory team (and channel) at some point | 09:33 |
| ajmitch | I haven't spent a lot of time on FDS yet | 09:33 |
| === Nafallo wish he would have asked ajmitch to borrow his pbuilder :-P | ||
| Nafallo | I've compiled xen-source the whole day on my laptop :-P | 09:37 |
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| Nafallo | finally got around to add server for amd64 :-) | 09:37 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: *spanks* hiya! :-) | 09:37 |
| bddebian | Heya Nafallo | 09:38 |
| Toadstool | hey Barry! | 09:38 |
| bddebian | Hi Toadstool | 09:38 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: well aren't you silly | 09:48 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: well, I really do want it :-) | 09:48 |
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| ajmitch | heh | 09:51 |
| === ajmitch will be back later | ||
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| Q-FUNK | Toadstool: only the 1st one? | 09:59 |
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| Toadstool | Q-FUNK: uhuh, sorry.. was on something else and totally forgot to take a look at the remaining bug reports | 10:00 |
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| siretart | \sh_away: RN+ 5 ( 11k): 21.10.06, 21:50 [ 223: Ubuntu Installer ] Accepted fai 3.1ubuntu1 (source) | 10:03 |
| === Nafallo tries to understand siretarts message ;-) | ||
| Nafallo | ...and fails miserably :-P | 10:05 |
| siretart | Nafallo: \sh has asked me if I was working on fai 3 packages for ubuntu | 10:06 |
| siretart | Nafallo: I just told him that they just got ACCEPTED | 10:06 |
| Nafallo | ah, kewl :-) | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | siretart: using mutt? :) | 10:08 |
| Nafallo | aha. | 10:08 |
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| Nafallo | it's a line from a mailapp :-) | 10:08 |
| fatsheep | is the #ubuntu-motu-school channel dead? :( | 10:11 |
| siretart | ajmitch: no, using gnus | 10:15 |
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| rmjb | hey LaserJock i'm back, lunch | 10:18 |
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| LaserJock | rmjb: heh, I was at lunch | 10:58 |
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| rmjb_ | Happy Divali to all | 11:07 |
| rmjb_ | or Diwali, depending on your localisation | 11:07 |
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