=== doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-067-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-145-223.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] anybody knows how to enable the svn plug-in in anjuta? === sepheebear [n=sepheebe@ool-45778673.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinuxium [n=selinium@82-34-235-84.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] ajmitch: still around? [01:04] yes === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] ajmitch: can I upload a new trivial package after I've tested that it builds and works? :-) [01:08] ajmitch: hi btw :-). I don't think we said that today yet. [01:09] Nafallo: explain what you mean by new trivial package? [01:09] something that has to go through NEW? [01:09] ajmitch: I forked dholbach blubuntu-look and made a wave-look of it. yea, has to go through NEW :-). [01:10] then you probably can't upload just on my ok [01:10] hmm, ok. bug+subscribe someone then? [01:10] even then you'd have to talk really nicely to archive admins to get them to process NEW [01:11] yes [01:11] bug+subscribe motu-uvf [01:11] alright :-) [01:12] i wonder if it would be useful to have a module for an Apple Remote driver in edgy+1 ... i've made one at http://kilobyte.rcac.purdue.edu/ubuntu already called apple-remote-source [01:13] !revu [01:13] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] does anyone use lirc? [01:53] crimsun: i recently played around with it and got it working with gxine === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-87-81.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@adn184.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-26d86a13f6fc12eb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] mwolson: do you mind testing a merge candidate in, oh, 30 minutes? [01:55] I'm wading through these src:lirc bugs, and most of them can be closed with a merge [01:56] crimsun: it depends on what you want me to do -- if it's bug triage, i don't have time for that atm [01:56] if it's just checking to see whether it breaks something in my own config, sure [01:56] mwolson: I would need you to test the lirc-modules-source binary package to check if it generates a valid lirc-modules* binary package that can be installed and configured successfully. [01:58] i could test the default setup for that, since i ran across some compilation issues with the current lirc-modules-source (though i realized later that i didn't even need these modules), so sure [01:58] where do i get the candidate? [01:58] give me about 25 minutes [01:58] I need to triple-check my merged source package [01:58] ok [02:18] mwolson: http://tiber.tauware.de/~crimsun/ [02:18] mwolson: I've verified it builds and installs against linux-headers-$(uname -r) [using -generic] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-87-81.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:19] mwolson: please test lirc-modules-source (build, install) and lirc (runs). Remember to unload your current lirc modules first. [02:20] mwolson: for the record, this merge should close bug 28941, 29641, 45400, [02:20] Malone bug 28941 in lirc "lirc-modules-source package doesn't install the /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf file." [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/28941 [02:20] Malone bug 29641 in lirc "Can't reconfigure lirc" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29641 [02:20] Malone bug 45400 in lirc "uderquoted definition of AC_PATH_LIRC" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45400 [02:20] and bug 53111, 67258 [02:20] Malone bug 53111 in lirc "Unable to build lirc_gpio module" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53111 [02:20] Malone bug 67258 in lirc "Source package doesn't build" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67258 [02:21] oops, and bug 45703 [02:21] Malone bug 45703 in lirc "Unable to use modules in dapper" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45703 [02:24] ok, already found one (probably minor) issue; shall i paste the output on rafb.net? [02:24] sure [02:29] http://rafb.net/paste/results/MMvwPd22.html [02:31] hmm. [02:31] I take it you don't have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed? === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] it definitely compiles and installs; I need the actual lirc usage to be tested [02:33] crimsun: i think module-assistant is supposed to take care of that for me [02:33] oh === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-76-167.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] well, usage of lirc-modules-source is something i can't test, because i don't use any of those modules (dev/input is all i need) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] but yes, it does build properly now [02:37] ok, can you test the actual lirc functionality? [02:37] I don't have any IR device(s) here [02:37] sure [02:38] also, which $arch are you using? [02:39] generic i386 [02:39] does anyone use [!386] , have an IR device, and is willing to test the lirc merge? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] hmm ... lircrcd does not seem to be loading now (added the first line to ~/.lircrc to enable it) [02:45] though irw is showing events going throuugh [02:46] that could be because liblircclient0 and lirc are now out-of-sync version-wise [02:46] I presume you're using lirc_0.8.0-9ubuntu1_i386.deb (and possibly lirc-x_0.8.0-9ubuntu1_i386.deb)? [02:46] oh, d'oh [02:46] yes [02:47] sorry about that [02:47] refresh the dir [02:48] (forgot to copy over those debs) === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] after installing the new liblircclient0, it works again, though i had to restart lircd afterward for it to start working [02:52] ok, thank you for testing. [02:53] you're welcome === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] ajmitch: I'm not supposed to sub the archive admins for bug #67280 yet, right? :-) [03:37] Malone bug 67280 in Ubuntu "[NEW] wave-look_0.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67280 [03:54] Nafallo: correct [03:54] okidoki :-) [03:55] I'll just wait now then ;-) [04:28] moins all [04:29] imbrandon: gnight :-) [04:29] gnight *. I need to sleep. 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[06:50] the site is very information-dense, however it's difficult to figure out what's relevant to me [06:50] exactly, i'll nudge you in the right direction if you give me a little more to go on then "i want to help" hehe [06:50] I'd like to see something like "so you want to help out with coding on ubuntu" with a step by step or point form list of ideas. [06:51] well, I've done a lot of C#, quite a bit of Perl, quite a bit of C++, and a little on most mainstream languages [06:51] C++ primarily for windows, though [06:51] there realy isnt one, as 90% of ubuntu isnt "code" its packages from upstream code, so if you want to code as in c++ or such your better off looking upstream [06:52] well.. I'm pretty flexible [06:52] e.g pick a program you like ( say your favorate music app ) and grab the source for it , talk to upstream and code away [06:52] Werdnum: If you know Ada, I have a bug you can fix. :-) [06:52] hehe === PWill [n=paul@cpe-24-208-190-43.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] I was just giving you a rough overview of my coding experience -- basically I've used Kubuntu for a while, and love it, and am interested in giving back. [06:52] nah, sorry, no Ada [06:52] Is the Flash 9 beta going to be in the Edgy repos? [06:52] I can probably figure it out :-P [06:52] Or will we wait for Feisty? [06:53] PWill, not in the edgy repos its too late but seveas and me both have it in our edgy repos [06:53] Werdnum, great [06:53] What's the URL? [06:53] Werdnum, we always welcome help [06:54] :-) [06:54] PWill, http://seveas.imbrandon.com [06:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Tasks [06:54] is one mirror [06:54] looks promising [06:54] imbrandon: Thanks [06:55] Werdnum, if your interested in kubuntu packaging and helping squish bugs ( thats actualy one of the things i do too , kubuntu rocks shhh ) first off familiarize your self with deb packagaing ( url to follow ) then start picking bugs in LP and poke us in #kubuntu-devel or here with patches / fixes [06:55] !package guide [06:55] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [06:56] Werdnum, if you want more specifics than that i need more info to go on ;) [06:57] Werdnum, basicly hang out in here and there and read those, ask us questions and you'll catch on fairly quickly i'd assume [06:57] mmmmk [06:59] i know its kinda dauting and gerneral but you stated a 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[10:15] Fujitsu, pong === geser [n=michael@dialin111219.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] Fujitsu, ?? [10:19] imbrandon, hi. [10:19] heya [10:19] I've reproduced that not-installing thing with flashplugin-nonfree... [10:19] On a complete reinstallation. [10:19] It never unpacks the .deb. [10:19] Your repo is stuffed, it appears. [10:20] wow thats strange, works here ( and for a few others ) but i'll check again [10:20] might be messing up on the md5 sums === crimsun mutters === Fujitsu wonders what about. 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[11:02] Malone bug 38093 in enigmail-locales "[SYNC] [UNMETDEPS] engmail-locales has unmet dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38093 [11:02] pirast: it was being highly painful - wouldnt generate the .changes file [11:02] etc === Hobbsee thinks there's something strange in her scripts or something [11:03] Hobbsee, :-( [11:04] now i have to find someone else to upload it. [11:05] Hobbsee: you'd better fix that [11:08] ajmitch: thanks for offering :) [11:08] actually, i'm not sure if Fujitsu did it. [11:08] Hobbsee, no, I didn't end up doing that. === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] Ah, it did gen the changes file, it just didn't include the orig. [11:08] oh yeah [11:09] I can't find the initial Debian version. [11:09] using -sa and everything === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] Hobbsee: Hrrm. -S -sa should have been cool. [11:12] Hobbsee, you downloaded "enigmail-locales_0.9x-20061010.orig.tar.gz" as far as I see.. [11:12] mhpf [11:12] my fault [11:12] looked like being wrong [11:13] could anybody else try to upload it then please? [11:14] pirast: Point me at the bug? [11:14] StevenK, bug 38093 [11:14] Malone bug 38093 in enigmail-locales "[SYNC] [UNMETDEPS] engmail-locales has unmet dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38093 [11:14] morning [11:15] I saw Hobbsee build and install it last night, so I'll just upload it. [11:15] would be nice.. thanks [11:19] Uploaded. [11:19] Let's see how Soyuz likes it. [11:20] I hope it will like it :-) Tried to days in order to get it working with our Thunderbird :-) [11:20] *two === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@59.92.149.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === palski [n=ville@a81-197-22-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.151.104.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] I have a fix for Bug #49640, but I'm not sure where should I send it [11:30] Malone bug 49640 in xchat-systray "xchat-xsys crash" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49640 [11:30] StevenK: it wont like it. [11:31] palski: what's the fix, and can you stick a debdiff on the bottom of that bug? === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] morning [11:32] hey phanatic [11:33] Hobbsee: it is a code-fix === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] I havent' use depdiff before, where should I go to study? [11:35] heya Hobbsee [11:35] palski, debdiff old.dsc new.dsc > package.debdiff [11:37] imbrandon: thanks, but how can I build a new.dsc? === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.151.104.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host144-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-210.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host144-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsmidt [n=jsmidt@128.187.184.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] hello [12:32] Hello, I maintain texmaker for debian. Texmaker fails to build in edgy. I have fixed Ubuntu's package. How can I upload the changes? [12:38] jsmidt: possibly file a bug with the diff? [12:39] seaLne, thanks. I just did that. [12:40] just let me know if you need me to do anything else. I would like to see texmaker working when edgy is released. :) [12:40] it depends on the severity as unfortunatly edgy is frozen now [12:41] but if it currently dosen't work, thats bad :) [12:41] Too bad. It really is a minor chance. One line of code and one dependancy change. :( [12:41] Bug #67333 [12:41] Malone bug 67333 in texmaker "texmaker fails to build on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67333 === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] jsmidt, can you please provide a debdiff? [12:51] Upload that to launchpad? [12:52] Yep, attached to that bug report. [12:52] Okay, one second [12:52] Thanks. === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] Fujitsu, I uploaded a debdiff, tell me if it is what you wanted [01:03] ... that doesn't look like a debdiff to me... [01:03] Try `debdiff first.dsc last.dsc' [01:03] (replace first.dsc and last.dsc with the appropriate names) [01:06] sorry, I for whatever reason thought you wanted debdiff first.deb last.deb. I uploaded the correct debdiff [01:07] Ah, OK. [01:08] Now that's a little more readable :) [01:08] :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] (I'm looking at it now, I'll upload it if it's sane) [01:12] thanks [01:12] Is that extra dependency necessary? Why would it have ever built if it wasn't? [01:12] *if it was [01:13] It is necessary in Unstable. I'll admit I just assumed the same for edgy when building in Edgy gave the same error I was getting in Unstable [01:15] By the way, Ubuntu Rocks! You guys seem to have pulled off a miracle. [01:16] I've had very little to do with it :P [01:17] A miracle in the sense that in just a couple years you have set the new standard of what constitutes a great linux distro. [01:18] Yes, it has been quite amazing. === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] Fujitsu: Yay for the modesty. [01:24] StevenK, I have had almost nothing to do with it! Most of the packages I've touched are practically worthless, and they're all in universe, and all the changes have been very minor.. === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] ajmitch: around? [01:25] jsmidt, it builds fine without that extra dependency. [01:26] okay, If it is not needed that's good to know [01:27] somehow my uploads to revu don't appear on the revu website [01:27] do the packages need to pass smoe filter? [01:27] Do you want me to recompile without the extra dependency? [01:27] herzi, did you add yourself to ubuntu-univserse-contributors, and get the keyring synced? [01:27] jsmidt, I have done so. [01:27] Fujitsu, thanks [01:27] Fujitsu: i added myself, yes [01:27] Now I need to get this approved for upload... [01:28] herzi, did your request that the keyring be synced? [01:28] and iirc, someone asked for a sync between my application and my upload [01:28] so "maybe not" [01:28] is there a way to check for this? [01:28] Did you build with debuild -S -sa? [01:29] yes [01:30] Which package is it? [01:31] bioapi, pam-bioapi, bioapi-bsp-upek [01:32] there's still lots of stuff to do for these packages, but I wanted to have a source upload so others can report their results with these packages [01:32] OK, you'll have to get a REVU admin to look at it... THe most likely cause is your key not being on the keyring. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpon [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] siretart: ping [02:06] herzi: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I'll respond when I am around. [02:06] siretart: ping, revu-administration :-D [02:07] siretart: Bwahaha, shades of tfheen. [02:07] haha [02:08] absolutely, though siretart has got a friendlier package around "i don't resond to empty pings" === finalbeta_ [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amachu [n=amachu@125.22.69.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberquiet [n=John@host45-89-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] hi, I ran into problems while upgrading from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.5... [03:03] Fujitsu (n=Fujitsu@h26n1fls33o917.telia.com) <-- hmm... [03:04] cyberquiet: which problems? and dapper or edgy? [03:04] dapper [03:05] first, the startkde script was trying to start kdeinit by running a nonexistent command called start_kdeinit [03:05] so I had to modify the startkde script by hand [03:08] secondly, I was able to update most kde apps without upgrading the kdelibs packages, but this made the apps unusable. after updating kdelibs all seems to run fine [03:11] apparently also now notifications in konversation do not work anymore... [03:15] Hobbsee: can you hear me? ;-) === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] cyberquiet: why wouldnt you update the libs with the rest of the packages???? [03:18] Hobbsee: I forgot to! but I think if a package is essential for another there should be a dependency.... [03:18] cyberquiet: did you use the repository for this, or install the packages individually? [03:19] I use synaptic [03:19] with the repositories provided on www.kubuntu.org [03:20] so the libs would have automatically gotten upgraded as well as the packages, if you'd done a standard upgrade? that's what usually happens === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:20] it didn't happen in my case === Hobbsee has noticed weird stuff with the konvi notifications though - not sure what's going on there [03:21] have you problems with the notifications, too? === nightrat [n=nightrat@dslb-084-058-175-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] hi [03:24] anybody knowledge about building mozilla trunk on edgy? i saw a bugreport about that, there is a workaround mentioned, does anyone know something about that issue? building on dapper with gcc 4.1 works, but fails on edgy with gcc 4.1 [03:26] Hobbsee: it seems kdelibs4c2a is in the dependecies, but kdelibs-data and kdelibs4-dev are not. not sure about that, anyway === teledyn [n=teledyn@adsl-71-140-56-241.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] I was wrong: after looking at dpkg.log I can say I upgraded manually also kdelibs4c2a === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] Hobbsee: anyway, this is not a big issue, anyone could fix that. but the first problem I encountered completely put my KDE to its knees, so it should be fixed if it's a bug === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:36] wow! now the start_kdeinit command is in my /usr/bin folder! it must gotten installed by the upgrade to the kdelibs, so why not fix those damn dependencies? [03:37] they should be fixed. [03:38] Hobbsee: who is the one responsible of packaging those packages [03:38] ? [03:39] cyberquiet: Riddell. you're also the first person to report that problem though [03:40] but I exclude I am also the first upgrading to kde3.5.5! :-P [03:41] possibly. i thought we had more people who have tested that [03:41] we did [03:41] don't know what could went wrong... [03:42] with me [03:45] for example synaptic says me konqueror requires only kdelibs4c2a version 3.5.3 or greater, but without upgrading to 3.5.5 it was unusable [03:46] when i say konqueror, I intend konqueror 3.5.5 [03:46] So the shlibs file for kdelibs4c2a needs to be tightened, and all KDE apps rebuilt. *Not* cool, about one week before release. [03:47] StevenK: it's dapper. [03:47] !info kdelibs4c2a dapper [03:47] kdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB [03:47] Oh. === StevenK shuts up, due to lack of knowledge. [03:48] StevenK: and its' just a >=3.5.3 thing, which will usually tend to still work [03:50] sorry but i must go offline a second, I hope we'll be able to tackle the issue === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberquiet [n=John@host97-89-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] I'm here again :-) [03:57] no news? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] Heya gang === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-57.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matid [n=matid@ubuntu/member/matid] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@66.54.206.209] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] !seen superm1 [04:30] I last saw superm1 (n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1) 16h 11m 53s ago, quiting: "Quitting, send all complaints > /dev/null" === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] !seen sabdfl [04:36] sabdfl is on IRC right now! [04:36] :-) [04:36] :D === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@213-140-6-121.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo adds server-xen0 to a nafallo1 branch :-) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta_ [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ecki [n=ecki@cbproxy.astra-net.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] hello === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta_ [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amachu [n=amachu@125.22.69.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.146.144] has joined #ubuntu-motu === syndicate47 [n=opera@dsl-145-249-73.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] herzi: and I do read backlog ;) [06:41] great [06:41] can you sync the revo keyring please? [06:42] revu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon17113.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] running [06:49] thanks a lot [06:51] hello all, I'm looking at udev, the one in edgy is based on 093-0 but I can't find that version in debian unstable. They have version 092-2 then 093-1, in a case like this, is this a pure ubuntu package? i.e. one that's not synced with debian? [06:51] rmjb: experimental? [06:52] unstable [06:52] did you also look at debian experimental? [06:53] syncing keyring finished [06:53] siretart: thanks a lot [06:54] where can I find package info for experimental? on packages.debian.com they list stable, testing and unstable [06:54] (I'm new to this) [06:54] rmjb: I'd say that udev in ubuntu behaves quite differently compared to debian [06:54] it doesn't get listed there [06:54] rmjb: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/udev [06:54] rmjb: http://patches.ubuntu.com/u/udev/udev_093-0ubuntu18.patch is the patch to the ubuntu package, about 2.2mb big [06:55] rmjb: why are you interested in udev? [06:55] siretart: okay, i'm asking because in debian it seems to run at S03 but in edgy it runs at S10 [06:55] and dmraid, which needs to run after udev runs at S02 [06:55] sorry, dmraid is at S03 in edgy [06:55] revu is also for multiverse packages? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] herzi: sure [06:57] siretart: can you please delete the *bioapi* stuff from my previous upload attempts? [06:57] or will they get synced automatically now? [06:57] so the sync (or merge?) on MoM for the lasted dmraid doesn't work since it moved dmraid to S05 to run after udev, but that's in debain [06:57] s/lasted/latest [06:59] herzi: queue cleared [06:59] thanks again [06:59] rmjb: sounds like dmraid needs to be fixed [06:59] yeah, I'd like to take a try at it [06:59] so I'm looking at udev first === syndicate47 [n=opera@dsl-145-249-73.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:06] to start a merge/sync fix, download the updated files from MoM right? [07:06] then work on fixing those? === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@59.92.149.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] rmjb: depends on what you actually want to do. if you want to fix things, apt-get source the package [07:29] ignore the new version on MoM? [07:29] *sigh* I need a faster amd64 :-/ [07:30] rmjb: if you want to merge a new upstream from debian, it is helpfull in many cases to apply the ubuntu debdiff from the last version to the new version, and resolve the conflicts manually [07:30] rmjb: MoM does the latter in an automated way. [07:31] okay, I hope I understood what you said... we'll see === BlackSkad [n=Thomas@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] well, MoM leaves you with the conflicts alone, obviously === lakin [n=lakin@d209-89-89-241.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] I'd like to resolve the conflict on MoM first before doing my own fix, I saw grab-merge.sh, so I'll use that === pirast [n=martin@p508B3595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-114-210.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] dh_installdocs 1.0.0.rc9/{CREDITS,KNOWN_BUGS,README,TODO} [07:55] cp: cannot stat `1.0.0.rc9/{CREDITS,KNOWN_BUGS,README,TODO}': No such file or directory [07:56] is that an old or new format for the dh_installdocs command that my current version cannot take? === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] anyone, if I apt-get source a current package the sudo pbuilder build that package it should work right? because I get the above error when I do so [08:04] s/package the sudo/package then sudo === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] hey everybody [08:19] hey Toadstool [08:20] hi rmjb === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-134.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] oh for goodness sakes [08:39] hmm? [08:39] bug #67441 [08:39] Malone bug 67441 in texlive-base "What is added value of texlive packages vis--vis TeXLiveCD from TUG?" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67441 [08:40] oh, cool [08:40] I love this kind of bug reports [08:41] ?! [08:41] well, what gets me most is that somebody just goes and marks it "confirmed" === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] I just never really know how to respond to stuff like that [08:44] speaking of this, any chances of someone confirming 66821, 66822 and 66823 ? [08:44] bug 66821, 66822 and 66823 [08:44] Malone bug 66821 in rt2400 "Please sync rt2400 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66821 [08:44] Malone bug 66822 in rt2500 "Please sync rt2500 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66822 [08:44] Malone bug 66823 in rt2570 "Please sync rt2570 (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66823 [08:47] hmm, I'm not exactly sure what the policy right now is for that === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@59.92.149.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon23810.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] LaserJock: only debian changes which fix the package.. I'd say that this is ok [08:50] (and I've already confirmed the 1st one) [08:50] yeah, but *all* uploads are supposed to be approved by the motu-uvf team [08:50] yeah, true :/ [08:56] ey! [08:56] rt2??0 is in our default kernels ffs :-) [08:56] from upstream CVS :-) [09:00] rmjb: just got you mail :-) [09:00] morning [09:00] hi ajmitch === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reda_ea [n=reda@adsl196-150-100-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch feels like taking a holiday for the next week :) === kagou [n=kagou@84.5.166.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] yeah? I've been saying that since July :-) [09:05] hi === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] Nafallo: rt2x00 ? [09:12] Q-FUNK: that to. but the ones above are legacy. [09:12] Nafallo: if it's rt2x00, then yes, it's the one that should go into vanilla around 2.6.20 [09:12] yes, they are [09:12] rt2x00 fr rt61 and 7-something... === Nafallo talks about linux-image now btw [09:13] rt2x00 replaces all the above 3 legacy drivers [09:13] 5 [09:13] :-) [09:13] it's a clean rewrite [09:13] yup, plus two rt6x === Nafallo is on the commit mailinglist ;-) [09:13] ajmitch: ping (fedora-ds) [09:13] I think rt2500 is what really got me into linux :-) [09:14] hinting people about ralink breaking gpl and stuff :-) [09:14] that made it gpl'd :-) [09:15] too bad nobody dared port madwifi stuff to add USB support to the prism driver [09:18] herzi: hello === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] ajmitch: as i wrote in my email: i'd like to get fedora-ds done together with you [09:20] how far did you get? === Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:33] herzi: I started on a few of the supporting packages [09:33] herzi: we're going to be discussing all this at MV - you may want to join the ubuntu-directory team (and channel) at some point [09:33] I haven't spent a lot of time on FDS yet === Nafallo wish he would have asked ajmitch to borrow his pbuilder :-P [09:37]