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Digital_PioneerNormally I'd head straight over to #ndiswrapper, but nobody's around.12:01
t0mz kitche: how i can skip the perms on the disk.. i got the error "access denied" ??12:01
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willwork4foohiya! I'm trying to get a netboot install of Dapper working, and for some reason I can't seem to connect to any ubuntu archive mirrors???? I get as far as the "choose a mirror of the Ubuntu archive" screen, I choose my country (I've also tried a few others), I then ping an archive (such as gb.archive.ubuntu.com) and press enter for no web proxy (there isn't one) - and I get a red screen saying "Bad archive mirror"12:01
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willwork4foocan anyone shed any light here?12:01
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jojoman02does ubuntu come with support for using dial-up internet? (if so, how do i use/configure it)12:01
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willwork4fooif I go into a shell, I can do ifconfig -a and see my network interface is configured properlyt12:02
hsscan i install xgl-compiz on ubuntu 6.06tls12:02
RogerBaconhi, can anybody here can compile libusb-0.1.12 for me ? when i compile it i receive this : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp/configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check12:02
willwork4fooand I can ping it12:02
Digital_Pioneerjojoman02, Have you looked at KPPP? I think that's a default package.12:02
siloxMy Gizmo Client crashes when I try to make a call, whats whrong? I have the latest version..12:02
t0mzianmacgregor: when i try to clone a disk that runs AIX i got the "access denied" error, so.. anyone knows how skip that?12:02
agentjojoman02: yes it does...12:02
willwork4foodoes anyone have any ideas?12:02
agentsilox: ask gizmo :)12:02
rabautzwillwork4foo: You can ping the archive server?12:03
conreytwillwork4foo: you can ping the site?12:03
jojoman02Digital_Pioneer: no, i haven't, i will, any gnome apps u know that come default in ubuntu (not kubuntu)12:03
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siloxagent: do they have a irc channel?12:03
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willwork4fooI can ping the archive server from my windows desktop yes12:03
Digital_Pioneerjojoman02, Sorry, I'm a KDE fan. I use Kubuntu... :\12:03
jojoman02agent: well?12:03
willwork4foobut not from the netboot install on the target box - ping is not part of the netboot image12:03
agentsilox: no idea... they do have a forum... does your client work at all? does it crash?12:03
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willwork4fooI am installing ubuntu on an IBM X20 thinkpad with no floppy / cdrom12:04
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agentsilox: the thing is, gizmo is not open source so its not really easy for anyone to help you12:04
conreytwillwork4foo: but you've got a ifconfig cmd option?  Is it using dhcp?12:04
phaedrajojoman02,  Have you tried wvdial?12:04
willwork4fooconreyt: I can ping the laptop12:04
RogerBaconhi, can anybody here can compile libusb-0.1.12 for me ? when i compile it i receive this : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp/configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check12:04
agentsilox: hence why i suggest gizmo forum... they are the only ones that really know their own client12:04
kitchetomz: you can't you have to do sudo dd12:04
conreytwillwork4foo: is it dhcp?12:04
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willwork4fooconreyt: the network link on the laptop works fine12:04
agentjojoman02: hold on... working on it :)12:04
jojoman02phaedra: how do i use that? type it in terminal?12:04
jojoman02agent: thankz12:04
anon32RogerBacon, if you fail a sanity check, your system has problems12:04
willwork4foowait a sec12:05
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phaedrajojoman02,  use apt-get or synaptic....12:05
siloxagent: like i said, it crashes when i try to make a call to someone, it makes the ringtone then it hangups...12:05
willwork4foook - still trying to work this out - still no luck12:05
conreytis it dhcp or staticly set?12:05
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jojoman02phaedra: kind of useless without internet, don't you think?12:05
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conreytwillwork4foo: is it dhcp or staticly set?12:05
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^Alan^i love it!12:05
RogerBaconanon32 : what i do ? im running ubuntu from the live cd ...12:05
agentsilox: try starting from terminal and see what error it gives... otherwise you really have to ask gizmo people...12:05
willwork4fooconreyt: it HAS TO BE DHCP because it was a PXE boot!!!!!12:05
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phaedrajojoman02,  It's on the ubuntu install disk.12:06
anon32RogerBacon, that's why12:06
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phaedrajojoman02,  Just install from there12:06
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jojoman02phaedra: ok, cool, it's called vwdial, is it gui or term?12:06
siloxokey yeah good idea, i will try the gizmo forum if it doesnt work12:06
^Alan^can i help some people out here? ill be happy to..i know my way around ubuntu a good bit12:06
agentjojoman02: what kind of modem do you have? built in? a pci card? usb?12:06
jojoman02agent: pci12:06
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conreytwillwork4foo: are you sure that your pxe boot is coughing up the correct dns?12:07
agentsilox: just so you know... there are open soure sip clients (ubuntu has ekiga - there are also more out there)12:07
RogerBaconanon32 : why ? i have compiled libgphoto2 without any error ...12:07
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willwork4fooconreyt: ah. wait a second...12:07
haploid_ok, I have 2 identical printers, connected by usb to an ubuntu box.  they are BOTH mapped to /dev/lp0.  wtf?12:07
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siloxagent: not with record support :(12:07
phaedrajojoman02,  Can't remember now...  I haven't used it in quite a while.  Have had broadband for years here...  ;)12:07
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agentjojoman02: is it a hardware modem or software?12:07
anon32RogerBacon, I'll build libusb for you, but it probably won't work right12:07
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jojoman02agent: it's a broadcomm12:07
phaedrajojoman02,  I do believe it's a gui though.12:07
RogerBaconanon32 : tanks :D !!!12:07
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willwork4foolemme try this now...12:08
jojoman02agent: soft i believe12:08
agentjojoman02: i dont know what that means :)12:08
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conreytwillwork4foo: and you were raising your voice for nothing eh?12:08
agentjojoman02: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto12:08
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gravesoni am copying some data files to a dvd but i just cannot lay out the files in the order i want to . I have even labelled the files using numbers (title) but still no go,any idea how i can get around this ?12:08
agentjojoman02: that has explanation on soft modems12:08
willwork4fooconreyt: frustration will do a lot of unpleasant things to people :) sorry conreyt12:08
jojoman02phaedra: cool, sadly some parts of the word (like india) still use dial up12:08
anon32RogerBacon, you'll need to dcc me the source though12:08
Evaso2any news on new ati bugs... edgy is quite uninstallable for normal user12:08
anon32or give a link12:08
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willwork4foonope. it STILL doesn't work.12:09
kitchewillwork4foo: what are you trying exactly12:09
PixelhateDHey all12:09
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phaedrajojoman02,  There are lots of places where broadband isn't avilable but should be...  Just use synaptic and install wvdial...12:09
conreytwillwork4foo: and DNS is correctly set as well as default GW in your config?12:09
anon32RogerBacon, um... did you here me?12:10
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RogerBaconanon32 : yes12:10
anon32winmodems make me afraid of upgrading :-(12:10
conreytwillwork4foo: just walking through from the ground up willwork4foo..... :)12:10
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RogerBaconanon32 : how i send you a dcc ?12:10
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emmettshearI'm having trouble getting camorama to work..error is: "checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gdk-pixbuf-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10 gconf-2.0 libglade-2.0) were not met:"12:10
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andejcan anyone tell me why windows starts to load but then quickly bsods and my comp restarts?12:11
anon32RogerBacon, forget that, can you give me a link to where you got libusb?12:11
willwork4foook - trying something else12:11
emmettshear(Requested 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10' but version of GTK+ is 2.8.20) How can I update gtk to be 2.10 instead of 2.8?12:11
siloxokey fuck gizmo ^^ anyone know i can record voip calls (i use Twinkle SIP), i have two soundcards and run Ubuntu 6.1012:11
anon32emmettshear, you need edgy12:11
emmettshearanon32: ok, how do I do that/what does that mean?12:11
jojoman02agent: thankz a lot12:11
jojoman02phaedra: thankz a lot12:11
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anon32emmettshear, you need to add the edgy eft repositories - go to #ubuntu+112:12
phaedrajojoman02,  np....12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edgy? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
willwork4foolet's see how this goes...12:12
^Alan^edgy elfe12:12
agentjojoman02: good luck with that modem12:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:12
amicrawlehey guys just updated my hardware how doi get my nvidia driver back ?12:12
RogerBaconanon32 : i PM you12:12
anon32RogerBacon, ok12:12
RogerBacon*send a pm12:12
^Alan^who's doin bad language?12:12
willwork4fooyes. or substitute sweary words for things like... um... common kitchen implements.12:12
fatsheepjust do the same thing you did to enable the driver12:12
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amicrawlewhat was that12:12
jojomaDoes ubuntu support intel centrino wireless? if so is it default what do I have to do extra?12:12
gravesoni am copying some data files to a dvd but i just cannot lay out the files in the order i want to . I have even labelled the files using numbers (title) but still no go,any idea how i can get around this ?12:12
willwork4foowhat the ROASTING TIN is going on with my system? (example)12:12
amicrawleenable nvidia12:12
conreytwillwork4foo: this is the article I used to PXE boot some of our laptops at work: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install12:13
willwork4fooconreyt: it's working now12:13
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agentsilox: http://www.twinklephone.com/ - but i don't think you can record using twinkle... maybe some other application12:13
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siloxHow can I record VOIP SIP Calls in Ubuntu 6.10? I use Twinkle as SIP Client and have two soundcards....12:13
willwork4foojust got it working :):):):):)12:13
amicrawleand do i need to update my kernal from p3 to p412:13
siloxagent ok thx12:13
amicrawleor am i fine12:13
AdamMKhow do i change the splash image for just one user? i've figured out that changing /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml changes the  splash for all users, but i need to change it for one user.12:13
conreytwillwork4foo: what was it?12:13
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willwork4fooconreyt: I had made a mistake in my dhcp config file. a stupid one.12:14
willwork4foofixed now12:14
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conreytwillwork4foo: cool :)12:15
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siloxhmm so i youst need to install the Bugdows to record SIP VOIP Calls eh?12:15
kitchesilox: or use a asterisk box to do it for you12:15
jojoman02if a modem shows up in HAL it's installed or just detected?12:15
siloxkitche okey explain that a bit more please :)12:16
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agentsilox: maybe use a program like http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ to record the conversation "in real time"... especially since you have 2 sound cards12:17
siloxagent: yeah but it complains about "soundcard in use" :/12:17
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agentsilox: use your second sound card :)12:18
JsonThow to get universal something something to install apps?12:18
willwork4fooDapper is the latest stable release of Ubuntu, isn't it?12:18
willwork4foojust checking12:18
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DrKuhahow do install ati drivers?12:18
^Alan^yes it is willwork4foo12:18
anon32willwork4foo, yes, but edgy is at release candidate, so it's probably stable too12:18
siloxagent: then i will only get the sound of one direction :/ not both parts..12:19
dodgyvilleI just upgraded to 6.10, when I run glxgears, I get  "Xlib: extension "GLX"  missing on display ":0:0" " - I have an nvidia card and I had the binary drivers installed in 6.06.12:19
RogerBaconanon32 : chek your PM12:19
anon32RogerBacon, what PM?12:19
PixelhateDInfo for
PixelhateDName: Moppys Fun Surf CSS Server - HLStatsX12:19
PixelhateDMap: surf_10x_final12:19
PixelhateDGame: Counter-Strike: Source12:19
PixelhateDPlayers: 2/1312:19
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PixelhateDSorry, bad alias.12:20
agentsilox: or if you really want to do this the quick and easy way (but the not so cool way) is plug the cable from your first soundcard output (one you use voip) into your second soundcard record/input and record using audacity or any other program the second sound cards input port12:20
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RogerBaconanon32 : private message12:20
anon32RogerBacon, didn't get one12:20
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anon32if you're unregistered, freenode will stop you from sending PMs12:20
andejhey, I'm using grub to dual boot but I've never been able to load windows since I installed ubuntu - it starts loading but then restarts - does anyone know why?12:21
agentsilox: im sure you can figure something out... im out of ideas :)12:21
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willwork4foohow clever is Ubuntu - I remember installing Kubuntu on an iBook, and was quite impressed by the way it managed to successfully put the laptop on standby when I closed the lid, and wake it up again when I opened the lid - I'd quite like to get that working in Ubuntu12:21
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RogerBaconanon32 : strange, do you have started to compile libusb ?12:21
PPAAUULLOne question, if I upgrade to Ubuntu Edgy, when it gets released will I have to do another dist upgrade or will it just be like normal updates?12:21
willwork4foodoes Ubuntu do this as well? or is it a Kubuntu-added cleverness12:21
anon32RogerBacon, don't know where to get the source :-(12:21
PPAAUULLI am mean if I upgrade now12:22
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^Alan^ubuntu has to have something that does it im sure...kubuntu is just a graphics pack to ubuntu that i know of12:22
RogerBaconanon32 : http://libusb.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable12:22
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willwork4foo^Alan^cool thanks12:22
anon32RogerBacon, got it, I'll send you the built but not installed result (use make install)12:22
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conreytPPAAUULL: you'll be running that distro, updates will be all that is nessec. for that version12:22
^Alan^dont take my word for int now!12:22
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anon32RogerBacon, 0.1.12?12:23
DrKuhahow do install ati drivers?12:23
RogerBaconanon32 : yes12:23
JsonTit says that I need universial something with apt-get, where to download?12:23
willwork4foo^Alan^: No probs. I'm installing Dapper now on my laptop - we shall see how it fares. Slackware 11 didn't spend long on there12:23
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conreytwillwork4foo: It should work as well.12:23
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^Alan^i dont wanna give you false information and break your laptop12:24
PPAAUULLconrey, so if I do an upgrade now, when it is released final then it will do normal updates on my system?12:24
^Alan^id feel so bad12:24
agentsilox: also, if you are getting a "sound card already in use" error that probably means that one or more of those programs are NOT using alsa... use alsa and you should not get that error12:24
willwork4fooSlackware is absolutely fantastic - if you want to tailor your system and customize absolutely everything and work on getting all sorts of stuff to work. I frankly haven't the time, and can't be bothered. if it doesn't work straight out of the box, chances are I won't want to use it12:24
conreytwillwork4foo: I've been happy with ubuntu on slower notebooks.....12:24
^Alan^but im pretty sure it would work12:24
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willwork4foowhich is why a friend told me to try Ubuntu12:24
conreytPPAAUULL: yup12:24
^Alan^ubuntu rocks12:24
^Alan^i love the fact that its an installable live cd12:24
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willwork4fooam I right in thinking also, that Ubuntu has the root password scrambled by default? and that any root-type behaviour is done through sudo?12:25
^Alan^try b4 you buy..well..sort of :)12:25
conreytwillwork4foo: I'd stick with ubuntu bit that's just my opinion....12:25
willwork4foo^Alan^: yeah - except this laptop has no CDROM or floppy12:25
jojomaHow do I go about creating my own custom live-cd?12:25
^Alan^sudo is your best bet12:25
conreytwillwork4foo: yes12:25
willwork4fooPXE installation > internet install is the way this is happenning12:25
conreytwillwork4foo: no USB?12:26
willwork4fooconreyt: what was the thinking behind that decision?12:26
dodgyvilleSo, does edgy remove glx mode from X?12:26
willwork4fooconreyt: there is USB, but the laptop won't boot off a USB stick12:26
willwork4footried that12:26
^Alan^mine either hehe12:26
conreytwillwork4foo: There are USB CDROMS too lol12:26
willwork4fooonly way to boot this laptop from external media is via PXE net boot12:26
willwork4fooconreyt: that would involve spending money.12:26
^Alan^so i said oh whatever forget it and went and ordered the cd from cononical12:26
willwork4foodon't have much of that.12:26
conreytwillwork4foo: so true so true12:26
anon32RogerBacon, building it now12:26
RogerBaconanon32 : tanks12:27
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^Alan^anyways guys and girls12:27
^Alan^i shall talk to you later12:27
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DrKuhahow do i listen to mp3s?12:27
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RogerBaconanon32 : afther that i will compile libgphoto2 (add my gigabeat s) ;D12:27
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anon32RogerBacon, done, how do you want it sent/12:27
conreytwillwork4foo: My company is running a ton (~150) thinkpads.... of different generations... regular ubuntu is the only one that I've gotten loaded (with ease) on all of them12:27
BubbaTheLoveSponDrKuha, I use xmms12:27
rabautzjojoma: apt-cache search bootcd12:27
anon32warning: no guarantee it'll work12:27
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RogerBaconrapidshare ?12:28
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anon32RogerBacon, screw that, I don't have a rapidshare account12:28
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DrKuhawhere do I get codecs then?12:28
^Alan^Awaytheres no guarantee that any software will work :)12:28
^Alan^Awayubuntu does!12:28
conreytDrKuha: are you using Ubuntu?12:28
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RogerBaconits free .... put it at a place you want12:28
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DrKuhayeah, I'm using dapper drake12:28
lostatcwhen compiling software using a AMD Sempron processor are there any flags to set to optimize it for this processor?12:28
anon32before that, let's see if dcc works12:28
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killownanyone know where has driver via igp s3g unichrome for xorg?12:28
conreytDrKuha: use the media player that it ships with.  very nice.12:29
wikijeffI'm having trouble getting ubuntu to boot all of a sudden. It will get to the Starting System Log... part of the booting process, but then hangs. Recovery mode works, as does my windows boot which I'm using now. Any ideas?? Thanks.12:29
Jobberwackynew nvidia driver out - fixes security hole http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8776.html12:29
RogerBaconanon32 : now downloading :D12:30
willwork4fooI have to say, out of the different versions of Linux I've put on this IBM thinkpad via PXE, Ubuntu does appear so far to be the easiest to install (once I sorted my PXE server out)12:30
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DrKuhayeah, rhythm box does not play mp3s, it looks like12:30
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anon32!restrictedformats > DrKuha12:30
DrKuhaI'll look there12:30
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anon32never tried this dcc thing before, it doesn't sound efficient :-P12:31
conreytDrKuha: use this site for rythmbox it will work for you : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories12:31
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jojomawhat is the defaut ubuntu irc client?12:32
anon32jojoma, irsii12:32
gnomefreakjojoma: your in it12:32
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gnomefreakoh client12:32
gnomefreakgaim and irssi12:32
anon32you can then get your own (but avoid gnome-xchat)12:32
conreytclient!=channel lol12:32
DrKuhaoh yeah, i've done taht12:32
RNtIs possible install an activeX reader for mozilla in linux?12:32
anon32RNt, no12:33
dou213anon32, why should he avoid xchat?12:33
anon32there's an extension, but it doesn't work too well12:33
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anon32dou213, he shouldn't, just gnome-xchat12:33
Guest05956oh my god.12:33
Guest05956900 people..12:33
Guest05956you guys are from dalnet?12:33
anon32RogerBacon, you can obviously understand how bad dialup is :-(12:33
anon32Guest05956, and?12:34
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Guest05956just curious.12:34
tonyyarussoGuest05956: Where?12:34
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Noortonyyarusso i asked, if anyone here was from dal.net?12:35
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tonyyarussoNoor: Maybe someone is; I've never heard of it.12:35
mineraleso I know there's this one package named regexplorer - but for whatever reason I can't see it, what repository is it in?12:35
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mineralewell, I see it in the debian repositories12:35
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anon32RogerBacon, should be done sending now, at least it says so serverside12:36
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JohnnieWalkernoob question: i need to configure my kernel to get DRI working for my intel extreme graphics 2 chip.. never configured a linux kernel, can anyone start me off somewhere?12:36
anon32just unbz2, untar, and make install12:36
willwork4foojust a thought - this laptop's only got 128MB of RAM. that's probably not going to be enough for the system to work properly?12:36
anon32JohnnieWalker, #linux ?12:36
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morghanphoenixwhat goes in the type, options, dump and pass sections of fstab?12:36
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RNtis GLX swarp bugged or what?12:36
anon32willwork4foo, no, it won't - I recommend Xubuntu12:36
morghanphoenixI'm adding an external fat32 hdd12:36
jojomaconreyt: do any of the thinkpad models come w/ a built-in ethernet?12:37
JohnnieWalkeranon32: let's see, i'm using ubuntu so i thought i'd ask here.12:37
RogerBaconanon32 : where is the file ....... i cant find it ! LOL12:37
Noorso you guys are official helpers of ubunto?12:37
viatortry apt-cache search regex*12:37
anon32or perhaps Win2k (only windows version that competes with *nix)?12:37
tonyyarussojojoma: Mine did.  Umm...12:37
anon32RogerBacon, err........12:37
claviolaokay, this is a weird question, but... when I try to run "unrar" I get a warning that I should install either "unrar" or "unrar-nonfree" to have unrar on my machine.  The thing is, which program is displaying that message?12:37
viatorthen if you see what your looking for use the show command12:37
anon32RogerBacon, IRC client?12:37
jribNoor: not really official, just anyone that can help out12:37
conreytjojoma: yup most of um why?12:37
tonyyarussojojoma: 2668-49U12:37
RogerBaconanon32 : xchat12:38
Noorjrib it was in official web site right..... its cool..12:38
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anon32RogerBacon, should be .xchat2/downloads12:38
tonyyarussoclaviola: Something new...are you on Edgy or Dapper?12:38
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jojomaconreyt: well i lookin into getting some to play with jus to load linux on12:38
jribNoor: right it's the official irc channel, I just mean for example you can idle here and help out too if you want12:38
Noori want to visit help channel of this network.. which one is it?12:38
RogerBaconanon32 : not here .... i  dont understand !!!12:39
TechSalvagerNoor, #freenode-social12:39
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anon32RogerBacon, :-(((12:39
conreytjojoma: if you're looking to "play around' with linux that model will certainly handle it lol12:39
conreytjojoma: the 2668-49U is smokin'12:39
claviolatonyyarusso: yeah, edgy.12:39
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TraT0Does DD suport 2 monitors (windows style)?It's crucial for me and I realy want to go to linux12:39
tonyyarussoclaviola: Try asking in #ubuntu+1, they may be more aware of it (if you don't stumble on the developer of it).12:40
jojomawell actually im lookin for the older models12:40
viatoris it a hidden file12:40
conreytjojoma: it's got an integrated 10/100/1000 nic and internal wireless lol12:40
anon32RogerBacon, you could search your system for bz2 files12:40
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viatoryou have to have it show hidden files12:40
claviolatonyyarusso: yeah, I just asked in #ubuntu-devel instead12:40
TraT0I had it already 6month but I needed 2 monitors12:40
tonyyarussoclaviola: Hm, might work.12:40
conreytjojoma: I'm using some old R51's that my work just phased out.  I get the leftovers lol12:40
SpudDoggDoes anyone know the package I need to be able to watch online Windows Media videos, ie youtube.com?12:40
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TraT0so I got back to win :(12:40
AxordYoutube is flash video12:41
tonyyarussoSpudDogg: I think youtube is flash.  Either way, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:41
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conreytSpudDogg: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories12:41
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morghanphoenixmust be flash, cause I can watch youtube and I don't have w32 installed12:41
tonyyarussoSpudDogg: Oh, and there's a beta of flash 9 for linux if you're interested12:41
_azraelSpudDogg: Youtube is flash.12:41
jribclaviola: what does this command say:  which unrar12:41
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Tamplerwhere is unrar12:42
Tamplerpath to unrar12:42
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TamplerThats which command mean12:42
morghanphoenixanyone able to help me with a fstab entry for a removable USB HDD?12:42
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anon32morghanphoenix, sure12:42
cello_raspto install, 'sudo apt-get install unrar' . no need for path, just use 'unrar somefile.rar'12:43
anon32removable drives should be automounted though12:43
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morghanphoenixI have no idea what to put in past file system and mount point, it's a fat32 80GB external usb hdd12:43
agentmorghanphoenix: just remember, fstab changed in edgy... it now uses those crazy id strings (for good reason, however)12:43
RogerBaconanon32 : i find it12:43
morghanphoenixI don't know what to add for type options dump and pass12:43
morghanphoenixI'm in dapper12:43
RogerBaconanon32 : but make show error12:43
Brydenn33anyone here use FrostWire?12:43
RogerBaconanon32 : dosnt work12:44
agentmorghanphoenix: as anon32 said, you do not need your own fstab line, it should work when you plug it in12:44
RogerBaconanon32 : but tansk anyway :D12:44
emmettshearok, I've successfully installed the driver for my usb webcam (at least, I think it's installed, since modprobe -l shows the .ko). Can someone explain to me how to mount my webcam so it shows up under /dev/video0?12:44
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jribBrydenn33: yes, but what is your real question?12:44
morghanphoenixIt doesn't, I have to mount manually12:44
agentmorghanphoenix: its no different than a usb stick... think of it as a REALLY HUGE usb stick ;)12:44
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anon32RogerBacon, that's why I warned about using someone else's build12:44
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agentmorghanphoenix: are you sure its turned on?12:44
LinuxHelpWith lighttpd, I put my .htm's in /var/www/, but where do I put my cgi scripts?12:44
Brydenn33jrib: my real question is how did you get it to work? i downloaded the latest version and cant get it to work12:44
JsonTokay. i have went to software preferences and pressed add and checked everything. but when i have refreshed i have gotten back to unchecked. what to do?12:44
Brydenn33it shows as being installed in Adept_Manager12:45
roeI can't get Xorg to display 1920x1280 on my dell 24incher it says  No valid modes for "1920x1280"; removing in /var/log any thoughts?12:45
morghanphoenixYes, it's bus powered, not power switch or cords12:45
Brydenn33but the box never pops up12:45
jribBrydenn33: are you on dapper?12:45
morghanphoenixand it manually mounts just fine12:45
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Brydenn33i'm on Edgy12:45
jribBrydenn33: edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 please (i'll help you out there)12:45
Brydenn33thanks jrib12:45
morghanphoenixbut if it does auto-mount, which it only does every once in a while, it uses up a new space because it doesn't weant to release it's mount point when I unplug it.12:46
anon32morghanphoenix, all you need are devname, mountpoint, fstype, and defaults for the rest12:46
Brydenn33so jrib i assume you cant help?12:46
Umeshis there is a php.src package in Ubuntu like php.src.rpm on Redhat ?12:46
morghanphoenixvfat for fat32, right?12:46
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jkku3hey guys? what's the command to list the hardware on your computer?12:47
morghanphoenixis there a better way to make it always mount as /mnt/ext-hdd?12:47
agentjkku3: there are different ways to do that, one is lshw12:47
anon32jkku3, go to /proc and just read the files12:47
emmettshearafter you've installed a driver for a webcam, after plugging it in should it just be recognized? or do I have to do something else?12:47
viatortry running gqcam for the webcam12:48
anon32morghanphoenix, yes, just mkdir /mnt/ext-hdd and set that as mount point12:48
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jkku3what about lsdev?12:48
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rabautzUmesh: apt-get source php5 <- can not test at the moment if package is named like that12:49
agentjkku3: lsdev is not a command that i know of :)12:49
agentjkku3: just type ls and press tab twice it will list all ls commands if you want that12:49
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jkku3i'll go with lshw12:50
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morghanphoenixOkay, it's telling me that a device that's mounted on /mnt/ext-hdd is also mounted as /media/PHOENIX12:50
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agentjkku3: there are specfic commands and /proc/ for more details... for example, lsusb shows usb devices, cat /proc/cpuinfo gives you cpu info, etc.12:50
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anon32morghanphoenix, is it?12:50
morghanphoenixof course, /media/PHOENIX is not in the mount readout12:51
morghanphoenixbut properties says it's mounted there12:51
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anon32morghanphoenix, can you post your fstab to pastebin?12:51
anon32heck, paste the result of mount -l there too12:51
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hikenboothello all I have already looked at the wiki...nothing i do seems to enable 3d accelleration on my nvidia fx 5200 video card ..anyone able to help12:52
anon32question: how can I allow people to write to my mount point... but not delete it?12:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:52
kitchehikenboot: did you install the nvidia binary drivers?12:52
kitchehikenboot: you should have 3d acceleraton then unless you mean direct rendering12:52
dou213if i plan to install xgl, would it be rentable to set up gdesklets and xfce4-terminal?12:52
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kitchehikenboot: but you have to change your xorg.conf so it uses the nvidia driver12:53
hikenbootit works and even works with beryl and emerald but the 3d acceration doesnt wokr12:53
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hikenbootsorry direct rendering12:53
hikenbootI did that already12:53
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emmettshearI see my webcam under lsusb (Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0471:0329 Philips) and I have compiled and installed the pwc driver (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/pwc/pwc.ko) ... what's the final step I need to make it work?12:53
kitchehikenboot: I just had ot change the driver for my direct rendering to work so you tried glxinfo |grep direct and it says no?12:54
ciscosurferemmettshear: turn it on12:54
emmettshearhaha, ciscosurfer, thanks12:54
emmettshearI tried that :-P12:54
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MatamourosCan anyone use evolution with tsocks?12:54
emmettshearit's plugged in and not working; any ideas how I can trouble shoot from there?12:54
ciscosurferemmettshear: never hurts to point out the obvious...;-)12:55
kitcheemmettshear: you might have to modprobe pwc12:55
morghanphoenixeverything looks right there, just in properties of ext-hdd it says mounted on /media/PHOENIX12:55
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c|inthello people.. maybe someone can seriously, or as many people that can, help me figure out why I"m having issue with my nvidia agp, I did, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx, is there something I'm suppose to do and trigger it, I remember before I did, sudo nvidia-glx enable or something, I also have books too, if I can't get help12:55
ciscosurferc|int > !pastebin12:55
emmettshearkitche: ok, I just did that...modprobe didn't return an error but the webcam still doesn't work12:55
c|intbtw, I'm testing with edgy eft :)12:55
roeanyone have a modeline for the Dell 2407fpw12:55
Linuturkthe command "sudo oem-configure-prepare" isn't working!!!!12:55
Umeshrabautz, I want to change php4 spec and rebuild like I did in RH, is there is a way I can do in debian12:55
bun-bunc|int# check the topic12:56
c|intthanks ciscosurfer :)12:56
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Linuturkthe command "sudo oem-configure-prepare" isn't working!!!!12:56
c|intI went out drinkin last nite, after some smoke too, because I was highly fustrated, I even checked, and edited /ect/X11/xorg.conf12:56
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cello_rasphow lol12:57
willwork4foocan someone explain to me how :{}{ :|:&}; works? (NOBODY RUN IT - IT'S A FORK BOMB AND IT WILL SCREW YOUR SYSTEM)12:57
c|intI had to change some of the mode lines up, because I know what my nvidia is capable of ,12:57
JosefKc|int: I've noticed a kind of chicken/egg problem in Edgy with nvidia.  it's best to manually replace the Driver "nv" with Driver "nvidia" line in your xorg.conf12:57
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c|intholy smokes.. : O12:57
c|int; P12:57
ciscosurferwillwork4foo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forkbomb12:58
hikenbootkitche yes it says no12:58
c|inthehe, thanks JosefK, maybe that will help lool12:58
c|int ; )12:58
JosefKc|int: otherwise, nvidia-glx-config won't add Driver "nvidia" because it can't load the module, and module won't load because it doesn't say Driver "nvidia" in the config file12:58
cafuegoJosefK: It created a script function called ':'.12:58
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c|intyeah I noticed12:58
cafuegowillwork4foo even12:58
rhicanhey is there a possibility to generate/get the kernel .config of the precompiled ubuntu kernels, so that i can start using my own kernel built from source without too much trouble?12:58
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JosefKrhican: they're all in /boot12:58
cafuegowillwork4foo: Then it calls :() over and over :-)12:59
rhicanJosefK, cool tnx12:59
c|intI'm not noob lol.. I been working with linux since 2004, and as well with windows.. I run Windows XP Pro VLK, my edition from IT, and College, corperate people :P.. inside, via vmware workstation , and 5.5 btw. sure fixed alot of issues, :)12:59
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ciscosurferc|int: a whole 2 years?  my gosh!12:59
c|intedgy other than what I had to do manually, I just didn't change nv, to nvidia, but I can12:59
anon32c|int, sure... after all, I wouldn't want to say I use VLK because it's easy to warez either01:00
c|inthee, well I hav'nt read all the books I got, and so on.. :-)01:00
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c|intanon, it isn't01:00
c|intRobert Morris College, Peoria, IL, come see me :)01:00
anon32isn't easy to warez, or isn't the reason?01:00
compengican someone help me to compile gaim beta 4?01:00
c|intits not a hacked edition, cough :-)01:00
anon32compengi, I suppose, why?01:00
JosefKI'm sure everyone has a few legit windows licenses they aren't using from all the hardware we alpha geeks buy?01:00
anon32c|int, the great thing about VLK is that it has no activation :-)01:01
compengianon32: i want to install gaim beta 4 on my os01:01
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ciscosurfercompengi: google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=compile+gaim+beta+4&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a01:01
c|intthere is an activation, but I don't have to register if I dont' want too, anon, and I work with Microsoft Gold Partner wombats anyways ;)01:01
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anon32compengi, well, what's the difficulty?01:01
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c|intand they ask for my consultant advice, with linux systems to evaluate,01:01
compengianon32: i don't know the steps how to compile and install =/01:01
LjLcompengi: then can't you live with beta 3? :P01:02
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c|intno point to prove anything to anyone on the net .. when they don't see the truth :)01:02
anon32c|int, um... the corporate does *not* have an activation01:02
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto01:02
^Alan^thanks anon3201:02
c|intanon.. the 1 I have.. I have to enter product key, then it is up to me, to register with microsoft or not, its because we work with alot of systems, and we strip out what we don't need.. cough ocugh01:02
compengiLjL: i had beta 3 before i formated my os and reinstalled it now i'm running gaim 1.501:02
emmettshearok, so now the webcam's light turns on, I guess that's useful01:02
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:03
anon32c|int, huh01:03
LjLcompengi: ok, still can't you use the beta 3 packages? are they too buggy?01:03
anon32kitche, thank you, now politely stop that01:03
c|intalthough, I can just create a custom image if I want, and use my Software ACronis True Image, whatever I need, to make an image of an install, dont' matter, the entire disk, eh a virtual disk image as wel, etc01:03
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compengiLjL: beta 3 has alot of bugs01:03
hikenbootkitche, you still there01:04
LjL!compile > compengi01:04
c|intI just had an nvidia question.. gee, thanks for adding your input.. :)01:04
c|intthanks, JosefK, btw, ;)01:04
anon32I never could figure out what acronis did..01:04
JosefKc|int: np's :)01:04
c|intsure was fun, to get a copy of Mandriva 2007 PowerPack as well, and strip that, :)01:05
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c|intany trigger eh?... enable etc?01:05
emmettshearhow can I tell if the webcam is working?01:05
c|intJosefK: , should I do?01:05
emmettshearaka what program will read it and display the images/01:05
c|intor just change nv to nvidia,01:05
c|intall the refresh rates are right, and I got the correct amount of memory the agp should be using, manually inputed it,01:06
compengiLjL: i'm downloading the cvs package01:06
LjLemmettshear: camorama perhaps01:06
kitchehikenboot: yes I was playing tremoulous a bit01:06
c|intalthough it appears, it just isn't using its native driver.01:06
LjLcompengi: then i guess you'll have to run "autoconf" before being able to run "./configure"01:06
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hikenbootwell I a posting my logs for someone in another chat room he thinks he can help01:07
c|intoh and yes.. java doesn't seem to be in any extra repositories.. erm. maybe I checked something wrong.. or need to add something :-)01:07
compengiLjL: i didn't get it01:07
JosefKc|int: I can't offer unbiased advice on Mandriva01:07
LjLcompengi, "./configure" is a compilation step01:07
c|intnah, I'm not asking about that lmao01:07
XpLiciTdo i need to install flash player on the ubuntu server in order to view swf remotely through a browser?01:07
JosefKah :P sorry, what was the problem?01:07
c|intso.. it being on "nv" instead of "nvidia" is causing probs eh?01:07
viatoremmettshear qkcam or kopete even01:08
JosefKc|int: well, 'nv' is the closed source driver.  the logic of nvidia-glx-config needs fixing, it should update xorg.conf first _then_ try loading the module, and revert the config if it doesn't work01:08
compengiLjL: i know, but what did you mean by saying i have to run autoconf before ./configure01:08
JosefKc|int: *nv is the open source driver, not the closed source one01:08
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c|inthee he01:08
kitcheXpLiciT: yes01:09
c|intdam commercial proprietary hardware, got to luv em eh JosefK :)01:09
c|intand to think, someday I want an SGI so bad.. :)))01:09
LjLcompengi: i meant what i said :-) when you get stuff from CVS, the "configure" script has usually not yet been generated, and you must generate it by running "autoconf"01:09
c|intworkstation that is..:))01:09
JosefKc|int: it could be worse, you could have a radeon..01:09
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viatori meant01:10
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c|intand I was thinking about getting 1.. erm.. but I sure do like nvidia.. :)01:10
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c|intI'm just going wait to get a 512 ddr video card :)01:10
c|intprobably going , pci express,01:10
c|intits a must.. :- )01:10
PhuzionAlright, my machine isn't using DNS servers?01:10
PhuzionThat first line should be a statement, by the way01:11
c|intquestion is, how long should I wait on ubuntu to support more latest technology . provided to the people :-)01:11
willwork4fooPhuzion: because it doesn't know about them?01:11
willwork4fooPhuzion: do me a favour - cat /etc/resolv.conf01:11
willwork4foowhat's in there01:11
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waltnmay i ask a question?01:11
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:11
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c|intJosefK: , what you think.. : P01:12
Phuzionsearch WorkGroup01:12
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waltnwhen I use the logout menu hibernate button, what causes the system to come out of hibernate?01:12
PhuzionTurn it on01:12
compengiLjL: when i'll begin compiling i would probably need your help, can you provide it?01:12
c|intseems that waltn, has an inquiry on the point of this channel, and was just being polite? :)01:12
PhuzionHibernate is turning off the computer, so you have to turn it back on01:13
waltnthen it reboots to a clean session, not where i left it01:13
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LjLcompengi: maybe01:13
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|thunderwaltn; a light sneeze01:13
Phuzionwillwork4foo:  Any ideas?01:13
JosefKc|int: that depends, if you're submitting a report you'd probably recommend migrating hardware to a platform that's definitely supported over time too01:13
lib8264qhello channel01:13
compengiLjL: i hope so :)01:13
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waltnlol, |thunder01:13
JosefKc|int: the hardware support here's as good as any other distro, it's just tougher to get all those rpm'd third-party drivers (because everyone uses fedora, right?) to install easily01:14
waltnif hibernate is not what i want, how does one tell ubuntu to sleep?01:14
|thunderwaltn; Phuzion is right. it caches the ram and all power is killed. gonna need to hit the power button.01:14
lib8264qcan someone tell me if there is a program that i can use to  make a .mov file from a mixture of .mp3 and .jpg01:14
XpLiciTinstalling flashplayer-nonfree failed.  i'm not sure whether to add the PLF or Canonical repositories.01:14
XpLiciTi added the PLF.  but apt-get update failed01:15
|thunderwaltn; dont know. i never wanted it too, so.01:15
XpLiciTGPG error: ...  the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY01:15
Phuzionlib8264q: any video editing software, then if it doesn't directly output to MOV, then a converter should finish things off01:15
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PhuzionI don't specifically know of any video editing software for Linux, unfortunately01:15
c|intbe surprised what everyone else uses, JosefK :)01:15
rcarrlib8264q: Try "apt-cache search slideshow"01:16
lib8264qim new to  *nix ... any advice on program that i could possibly use ????01:16
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c|intvision is, take mac software, compiled on intel architectures, then compile and port to linux, systems, that wouldn't that be the ideal thing :)01:16
PhuzionSo, does anyone have any ideas about how to resolv (pun intended) my DNS problem?01:16
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JosefKc|int: well, there's GNUstep01:17
waltnPhuzion&thunder: thanks...will keep googling :)01:17
c|intnow wouldn't*01:17
c|intyep, I know01:17
c|intI been on alot.. :)01:17
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kitchePhuzion: I tend to use custom dns servres instead of what my router sends me01:17
JosefKPhuzion: if you're using DHCP, it should be automagic, if not, you can add them to /etc/resolv.conf?01:17
c|intI do have, a licensed copy of Mandriva 2007 PowerPack01:17
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PhuzionWhat is the syntax for one of those?01:18
JosefKPhuzion: check /etc/nsswitch.conf too01:18
LjLJosefK, Phuzion: i think that (at least on kubuntu), thanks to the "resolvconf" package that is installed by default, /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten automatically at every boot01:18
c|intI was having issues with my external hard drive,  LACIE 2.0 usb/ firewire 80 GB , 7.05 oz :P01:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:18
^Alan^im gonna be back in a bit..gonna go copy ubuntu a few dozen times..im distributing it at my college...got them all wanting it!01:19
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c|intremember back in the days, where ubuntu, didn't mount foriegn partitions :)01:19
JosefKLjL: sadly true, to get around that I usually add a post-up script to eth* to manually append/overwrite resolv.conf01:19
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LjLJosefK: i just removed resolvconf, for that matter =)01:19
c|intsee ya ^Alan^01:19
PhuzionJosefK:  It's manually entered into the resolv.conf file01:19
PhuzionAnd it still doesn't work01:19
PhuzionYet this machine has literlally the exact same resolv.conf file01:19
bintutanyone can help me here? why is it that my openoffice.org in my ubuntu dapper setup doesn't recognize a wrong spelling word when i click the check spelling icon?01:19
JosefKPhuzion: just to check, you've put the IP address, not a domain name into resolv.conf?01:19
Marielewhatever ..01:19
PhuzionOf course01:19
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PhuzionYeah, I'm gonna put dnsresolver.org into there01:20
LjLPhuzion: and, on that line, you've put the word "nameserver" before the IP?01:20
c|intJosefK: , I'm going to see you on.. ubuntu, edgy eft, I was doing some things on my windows system, because I involved with programming for ms systems as well.. ;)01:20
AsheDooo, that wasn't good01:20
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JosefKPhuzion: ;) could you paste the error from nslookup?01:20
LjLPhuzion, what does nslookup have to say?01:20
bsniderkitche: whcih DNS servers do you use?01:20
c|intI'm going get that nvidia agp working great, thanks to you , I hope :)01:20
kitchebsnider: I use the two root servers :)01:20
PhuzionUhh, it goes directly into >01:21
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JosefKPhuzion: nslookup www.google.com (for example)01:21
Phuzionoh, haha01:21
Phuzionthanks, I wasn't sure how to use it01:21
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Phuzionconnection timed out; no servers could be reached01:21
LjLPhuzion, try "nslookup www.google.com"01:21
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PhuzionProbably the same thing01:22
Phuzionsame thing01:22
Phuzionconnection timed out; no servers could be reached01:22
LjLPhuzion: does pinging succeed?01:22
AsheDmy X just crashed?01:22
c|intyou think I should use, nano to edit, or gedit?01:22
PhuzionHold on01:22
rcarrcjing: vim01:22
c|intvim eh?01:23
JosefKno emacs!  no wait, yes, vim.01:23
PhuzionWhat the hell01:23
PhuzionIt doesn't work anymore01:23
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rcarrerr c|int01:23
jkku3hey what's the site that let's you copy and paste stuff into it?01:23
rcarrOnly took me three tries01:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:23
XpLiciTanyone else having problems apt-get update'ing because of http://packages.freecontrib.org ?01:23
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:23
JosefKLjL: other machines on your network are using as a DNS server?01:23
c|intthanks :)01:23
LjLJosefK, that was for Phuzion i think01:23
c|intfor the pastebin too :P01:23
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JosefKyes, yes it was01:23
c|intremember to tell me, paste when I get back :)01:23
PhuzionAll of them are01:24
c|intor , I will do , !paste01:24
c|intas well :)01:24
fsanchohi all01:24
GhostFreeman_How do I restart iptables?01:24
LjLPhuzion: if it's not pinging, then the problem is not the DNS itself, though01:24
fsanchoanyone knows how can i customize a gnome screensaver??01:24
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PhuzionAlright, so ping works now01:24
LjLGhostFreeman_: iptables is a command - you don't restart it01:24
JosefKPhuzion: out of interest, does 'lsmod | grep sky2' show anything?01:24
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GhostFreeman_um, I used firehol to unload iptables, i'd like to reload what was already there01:25
Phuzionwhat does that do?01:25
JosefKnot sky2 bugs then.  if you can ping it now, does 'nslookup www.google.com' work now?01:25
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JosefKjust wondering if you had a sky2 network card01:25
LjLPhuzion: try nslookup www.google.com again while making keeping a ping running in another shell, and making sure every ping goes through01:25
XpLiciThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27587/  following the advice on line 4 does not help :/01:25
PhuzionYeah, it'01:25
PhuzionIt worked01:25
XpLiciTerr line 301:26
Phuzionname google,com, address 72.whatnot01:26
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LjL!gpgerr > XpLiciT01:26
GhostFreeman_um, I used firehol to unload iptables, i'd like to reload what was already there01:26
Phuziondon't ask repeatedly01:26
XpLiciTthank you LjL01:26
LjLPhuzion: then you seem to have an intermittent connection01:26
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JosefKPhuzion: it looks like maybe just your connection went down then01:26
compengiLjL: can i compile using ./configure; make; make install steps?01:26
monofonikhow do i resize the boot partition on my mac without reformatting? i want to dual boot os x and ubuntu on my powerbook g401:27
Phuzionpart of the problem is probably that my switch down here thinks that everything wants to use the 192.168.2.* subnet01:27
Phuzionroute returns the first line being
Phuzionfor some reason01:27
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LjLcompengi: maybe. first thing, you must have build-essential installed. then, if you've got a "configure", run it, otherwise you need to run "autoconf" first. if the configure succeeds, proceed with "make". if it doesn't succeed (which is likely), you'll have to see which -dev packages are required01:27
GhostFreeman_How can I recover/reload whatever was sitting in iptables after being unloaded by Firestarter/FireHOL?01:28
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PhuzionAlright, apparently I can ping by IP address, even outside of the network01:28
PhuzionBut this machine's like a fat kid in a buffet01:29
PhuzionIt won't go outside for anything01:29
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JosefKPhuzion: route01:31
JosefKPhuzion: are you sure you're using DHCP? :/01:31
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^Alan^so far so good01:31
PhuzionI have a static IP address on purpose01:31
Phuzionthis machine is a server01:31
JosefKPhuzion: there should be an entry "     *        U     0      0        0 eth0"01:31
PhuzionYeah, but it's
compengiLjL: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim-2.0.0beta4.tar.bz201:31
compengiReading package lists... Done01:31
compengiBuilding dependency tree... Done01:31
compengiE: Unable to find a source package for gaim-2.0.0beta4.tar.bz201:31
JosefKPhuzion: we usually leave our servers on DHCP and have them get a specific IP address using their Mac01:31
PhuzionI prefer manual configuration01:32
LjL!paste > compengi01:32
JosefKPhuzion: well, whichever subnet that machines on.  if it's, and you're machine has an IP in, make sure the subnet's class b01:32
LjLcompengi: where did you get that command from? that's wrong.01:32
PhuzionHow do I change that?01:32
compengiLjL: from the site you gave me01:32
PhuzionI just want it on
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JosefKPhuzion: which is the address of the router?01:32
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Phuzion192.168.1.1 is the router address01:33
LjLcompengi: yeah, it specifies "apt-get build-dep <package>" though. "gaim-2.0.0beta4.tar.bz2" on the other hand is a file -- a tarball specifically01:33
^Alan^ is a linksys router am i correct?01:33
PhuzionHaha, yeah, but not really a linksys anymore01:33
LjLcompengi: you may, however, want to run "sudo apt-get install build-dep gaim". this will install the dependencies that are required for the Dapper version of Gaim. with some luck, they'll be the same that Gaim 2.0 needs01:33
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PhuzionWRT54G v.3 to be specific01:33
^Alan^thought so :)01:33
kitche^Alan^: it can be anything really01:33
JosefKPhuzion: hmm, the routing's fine then.  can you "ping"01:33
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Phuzionits getting it01:34
JosefKheh, cat /etc/resolv.conf - see if it's empty again01:34
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Phuzionsame as it was before01:34
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Phuzionsearch WorkGroup01:34
Noob1hi how can i tell what version of unbuntu im running?01:34
compengiLjL: some error01:34
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JosefKPhuzion: and you still can't "ping www.google.com"?01:35
^Alan^it should be on your sleeve of your cd01:35
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c|inthey  JosefK, you still here?01:35
JosefKc|int: indeed01:35
Phuzionnoobl/noob1, look in /etc/apt/sources.list01:35
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Noob1^Alan^:  my teacher gave me a burnt one01:35
c|intwant me name the nvidia driver.. instead of "nv" to "NVIDIA"  or "nvidia"  doesnt' matter?01:35
PhuzionIt should have the name of your distro pasted all over there01:35
AdamKilianyone know the terminal command for the Desktop Switcher?01:35
viatoris your wrt54g firmware buggered01:35
^Alan^um....im not sure01:35
LjLcompengi: "unable to find source package for gaim"? post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin.01:35
^Alan^let me see really quick Noob101:35
JosefKNoob: lsb_release -a01:35
seerking1anyone here experienced using auto text complete in OpenOffice?01:35
viatori got a version of ddwrt that was01:35
^Alan^nevermind then01:36
compengiLjL: i said E: Couldn't find package build-dep01:36
viatorand had similar problems01:36
c|intor hee, 3d tab :)01:36
andersjaI've got a pretty weird bug in the installer in on the release candiate01:36
seerking1anyone here experienced using auto text complete in OpenOffice?01:36
c|intor say it.... with speech recognition :)01:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:36
LjLcompengi: ah sorry, my bad, i gave you a wrong command. "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim".01:36
Noob1^Alan^: so is there a way ir what01:36
viatoranderversja file a bug then heh01:36
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c|intJosefK: , so, doesn't matter?01:36
LjLcompengi: not sure how i managed to get "install" to end up there.01:36
gbuHello I have a ATI Radeon 9200 PRO card.can you please tell me how to install 3d drivers for it?01:36
JosefKPhuzion: sorry, but without actually seeing your setup, I'm out of ideas.  I'm guessing it's something you've missed setting up the iface by hand, but I can't be sure01:36
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c|intrename "nv" to "NVIDIA" or "nvidia"01:37
seerking1how can I use the auto text complete in OpenOffice?01:37
LjLcompengi: i'm just used to typing "apt-get install something" i suppose :-)01:37
JosefKc|int: nvidia is the 'better', official NVidia one01:37
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JosefKc|int: supports 3D acceleration etc.01:37
JohnnieWalkeri hope this speeds up my GUI01:37
JohnnieWalkerbecause it's slow as nuts01:37
bintutanyone can help me here? why is it that my openoffice.org in my ubuntu dapper setup doesn't recognize a wrong spelling word when i click the check spelling icon?01:37
viatori would make sure i have the newest firmware version and reinstall it01:37
c|intk, brb.. hee, thanks alot.. rebooting X :)01:37
seerking1LjL: any ideas?01:37
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viatorthen work out01:37
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compengiLjL: nvm :)01:37
bintuti tried setting up US English language format in "format > character" and "tools > options > languages > language settings" to US english too but still the check spelling doesn't work.. :(01:37
LjLseerking1: no. i don't even have openoffice installed.01:37
PhuzionJosefK:  I can set you up with SSH access to the machine, if you want to take a look around01:37
bintutanyone please?01:38
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kitchebintut: are you sure the word is spelled wrong?01:38
bintutkitche: yes01:38
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bintutkitche: there's no such US English word as bintut, right?01:38
JosefKPhuzion: it's 00:38 here - I'm gonna kip soon, but out of interest, if you can still ping, does 'nslookup www.google.com' still work?01:38
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Phuzionboth still work01:39
JosefKbut 'nslookup www.google.com' doesn't?01:39
JosefKI'd check the syntax of your /etc/resolv.conf01:39
compengiLjL: btw what irc client are you using?01:39
BubbaTheLoveSponbf2 in ubuntu eh?01:39
Lukedoes anyone know of a way to use the apache config to force  svn to go through the ssl virtual host using the "debian" config setup?01:39
LjLcompengi: Konversation01:39
Phuzionis there a need for semicolons at the end or something?01:39
kitchebintut: bintut is a word01:39
JosefKPhuzion: you might've mis-spelt something, or maybe it's commented etc.01:39
JosefKPhuzion: no semi-colons01:39
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kitchein reality bintut it's a place01:40
viatorbypass the router01:40
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Lukedoes anyone know of a way to use the apache config to force  svn to go through the ssl virtual host using the "debian" config setup?01:40
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viatoruse the preocess of elemintation01:40
bintutkitche: oh my..01:40
JosefKPhuzion: man resolv.conf - for more detail01:40
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gbuhow do i install 3d drivers for ati radeon 9200 pro?01:40
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compengiLjL: i'm downloading gaim stuff01:41
JosefKPhuzion: I think you should remove that 'search' line btw01:41
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kitchePhuzion: it will search for that then use the dns servers01:41
JosefKPhuzion: it's not for WINS/NETBIOS, it's for DNS.  ie. I'd put 'search germany.company.com company.com'01:41
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simplahi guys.  So about the nvidia driver security problem, I take it that is why its not working now?  (I just finished doing apt updates)01:42
PhuzionJosefK:  that was automatically in there01:42
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JosefKPhuzion: if you set your machines domain, it probably was, but isn't needed01:42
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AdamKilidoes anyone know the terminal command for switching desktops?01:42
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c|intits having problems01:42
c|inti had to.. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:43
JosefKc|int: hmm, you're using the nvidia-glx package?  if so, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:43
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chrismhampsonjust downloaded 6.10 for my desktop - very nice it is too...apart from the disk admin missing! On a separate note, does anyone know a place where I can download old distros like suse 8.1?01:43
simplayeah, ah i manually edited the xorg file and changed it back to the nv driver01:43
c|intshouldn't i be?01:43
AdamKilidoes anyone know the terminal command for switching desktops?01:44
kitchesimpla: that security problem isn't really a big risk unless give people X sessions01:44
Flannelchrismhampson: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support, and I'm sure you can find older versions on the internet somewhere01:44
JosefKyes :) the details of the error'll be in that Xorg.0.log01:44
PhuzionJosefK:  How do I change that line to be 1.0?01:44
Phuzionin route01:44
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XpLiciT"Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available."  I'm using ubuntu server, firefox is not installed.  Should i install libflash-swfplayer instead? or first?01:44
simplayeah but the packages are broken through apt. won't let me install nvidia-glx due to nvidia-kernel not being there01:44
JosefKPhuzion: actually, if you're on, that's the problem *slaps forehead*01:44
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FlannelXpLiciT: you need to enable multiverse01:44
PhuzionNo, I don't have any machines in the 2.0 subnet01:45
JosefKPhuzion: two secs, I'll check the manpage to adjust from solaris (last place I used route)01:45
chrismhampsonFlannel: I've tried but it looks like the ftp servers i know have deleted everything but 10.0 10.1 etc01:45
simplaAdamKili, command is desktop name  , ie..    desktop Desk2 to change to desktop 201:45
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XpLiciTFlannel, which repository? or how?01:45
c|intwhat should I be looking for01:45
kitchePhuzion: didn't you say your gateway is
^Alan^wow..thats the quickest ubuntu has EVER installed01:45
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^Alan^5 minutes tops01:45
AdamKilisimpla: ty01:45
JosefKroute del
JosefKPhuzion: route del
Flannel!tell XpLiciT about multiverse01:46
Phuzionno such process01:46
Phuzionit's suddenly on 1.0 now01:46
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c|intubuntu still working slick, just not my 3d performance working good.. :(01:46
Phuzioni think this machine is possessed01:46
PhuzionIt has some serious problems01:46
AdamKilisimpla: bash: desktop: command not found01:46
c|intlmao @ possessed01:46
JosefKPhuzion: heh, I think it's just the network setup - does your router have an option to assign Mac addresses to specific IPs in the DHCP pool?01:47
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AdamKiliy is it called Mac address?01:47
PhuzionJosefK:  I have had this exact system up and running before on this same setup01:47
AdamKilidid apple invent it01:47
Phuzion!google mac01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
Phuzion!G Mac address01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about G Mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
viatorlol @ mac01:48
AdamKili!mac address01:48
Phuzionno one has a google bot in here?01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
LjL!msg the bot01:48
FlannelNo.  Phuzion, google it yourself01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
LjL!msg the bot01:48
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:48
JsonTi went to system preferences, i pressed at add, checked everything, closed and refreshed, but when I go back in the stuff i checked is not checked...01:48
kitchePhuzion: why have a google bot when it will be abused?01:48
JsonTsoftware preferences01:48
JsonTi meant01:48
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c|intJosefK: , any ideas?01:48
marshallhey guys, i keep getting this problem with gftp when i try to use SSH2 to access my server: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/21263901:48
PhuzionI go to channels that have them, and no one abuses them01:48
viator media aceess cntrl01:49
Phuzionthen again, I kickban people for doing shit like that01:49
FlannelPhuzion: a google bot wouldn't be of any benefit to the channel.01:49
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LjLPhuzion: well, on a channel with an average of 900 people, what you just did is considered bot abuse...01:49
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JosefKc|int: you'd have to paste the log, but my first guess would be typo01:49
c|intknow anything about nvidia cards, as far as.. getting them to work properly, on testing, edgy ?01:49
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c|inttypo eh on my part eh?01:50
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JosefKc|int: :P change the 'nv' to read 'nvidia' now, then try 'modprobe nvidia'01:50
JosefKc|int: if the module loads okay, then try restarting the X server01:50
c|intk, give me paste bin link plz01:50
JosefK!paste > c|lint01:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:50
c|intoh okay lol :P01:50
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chrismhampsoncan anyone help me register my nickname? I have no idea how to do it!01:51
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kitchechrismhampson: /msg nickserv help01:51
c|intgive me link plz.. :)01:51
Phuzion`awaychrismhampson:  /nickserv register password email01:51
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kitchec|int umm the link is right there01:51
chrismhampsonPhuzion`away: thanks!01:51
Phuzion`awayNo prob01:51
JosefKnice to see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ working dandy under konqueror :/01:51
simplaadamkili you can just do control-alt-left or right to change desktops01:51
Phuzion`awayHave fun with your +e01:51
JsonThmm.. f*k this, ill fix it myself...01:52
c|intoh yeah, this would be big help.. how to view chm files on ubuntu :)01:52
bsnidera DNS delay happens with this router, unless icomment out the line that identifies it as a nameserver01:52
JosefKc|int: sudo aptitude install gnochm01:52
c|intwhat nice script, I need to install to view that :)01:52
dou213if i plan to install xgl, would it be wise to set up gdesklets and xfce4-terminal?01:52
c|intthanks :D01:52
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JosefKnp :)01:52
LjL!xgl > dou21301:53
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c|intwow. aptitude is fixing my java insall :)01:53
simplac|int, there is a CHM viewer for gnome01:53
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c|intoh yeah?01:54
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c|intI'm all ears :-)01:54
LjLc|int: actually, i think JosefK just told you about it01:54
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JosefK!gnochm > c|int01:54
justmikeI am a newbie and having a problem with the Update Manager.  When I try to run it, the error message shows: "Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time," but I don't know how to find (and kill, if needed) the other process that may be running (e.g., if Synaptic Package Manager is running, I can't see it).01:55
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JosefKjustmike: ps -ef | grep dpkg | wc -l01:56
JosefKjustmike: does that show a number > 0?01:56
jvaijustmike: sometymes that happens when u r running apt from the terminal, or have the update manager open whilst running synaptic01:56
jvai@ the same tyme01:56
justmikeok let me see if I can run the command in terminal -- hold on01:57
hikenbootanyone know what mesa packages I should not have for running nvidia-glx?01:57
justmikeafter the -ef, is that a pipe character (vertical bar) or the letter L?01:58
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JosefKjustmike: a pipe01:58
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marshallcan anybody help me with this?: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/21263901:59
abohow can I get the new flash 9 beta into my ubuntu?01:59
ubuntumahany bodu use wifi-radar02:00
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SeanTatermarshall: have you tried connecting in a more local fashion>?02:00
ubuntumahor wireless assistant02:00
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marshallSeanTater, how do you mean? i want to be able to connect to my computer from any computer, not just the ones on the network02:01
SeanTaterubuntumah: yes, I did, occasionally, once -- but it seems pretty simple, what about it?02:01
ubuntumahI cant connect to my net by wifi-radar02:01
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justmikeI ran the command ... output was a 1 (one)02:01
SeanTatermarshall, yes, but you may want to check and see if you can connect at all, before you get to the /from anywhere/02:01
JosefKjustmike: sudo killall dpkg02:01
SeanTaterubuntumah: have you read the following link?02:02
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:02
izzyb_abo: try searching at digg.com.  I seen an article there recently02:02
marshallSeanTater, i can connect on the windows computer using filezilla02:02
SeanTaterubuntumah: what ubotu said02:02
JosefKjustmike: it seems to have crashed, you should be able to update after you kill it02:02
aboizzyb_, I found this file http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b1_installer_linuxplugin02:02
SeanTatermarshall: okay -- then , do you have a router that that ssh server is behind?02:02
izzyb_abo something to the effect of installing flash in ubunto02:02
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izzyb_er ubuntu even02:03
justmikedpkg: no process killed02:03
aboizzyb_, but I am afraid of installing it manually and breaking my system02:03
marshallSeanTater, yeah02:03
JosefKjustmike: hmm, run just 'ps -ef | grep dpkg' this time02:03
izzyb_abo: I can't help you htere.  i haven't read the article, just remember seeing it02:03
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SeanTatermarshall: then have it foreward port 22 to that computer's local ip address02:03
justmikeno quotes, I assume?02:04
aboizzyb_, ok thanks02:04
JosefKjustmike: oh dear, it isn't running.  it's late, and that 1 was the grep command we were using02:04
JosefKjustmike: meh, a reboot should fix it, but I need to get some kip02:04
marshallSeanTater, its forwarded02:04
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tadgadaAnyone knows how to install a dos image on a usb key when you only have linux available? I would like to update my bios.02:04
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ubuntumahhow can i install wlassistant02:04
SeanTatermorshall: assuming you mean that you just did it, try connecting now02:05
izzyb_abo: http://www.digg.com/?s=flash+ubuntu02:05
SeanTatermarshall: assuming you mean that you just did it, try connecting now02:05
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SeanTatermarshall: sorry, I got your name wrong the first time02:05
de_ad2MEhey linux newbie here, i just got an hp pavilion 6000t with Intel PRO/Wireless3945ABG w/Bluetooth and I'm having trouble getting wireless internet to work02:05
tadgadaall dos image installers runs from dos or windows...02:06
SeanTaterde_ad2ME: read the following:02:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:06
SeanTaterde_ad2ME: what ubotu saud02:06
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SeanTaterde_ad2ME: /said/02:06
SeanTaterde_ad2ME: yw02:06
jewbileecan someone help me with wine?02:07
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SeanTaterjewbilee: try saying !wine02:07
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:07
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agentwhere do i find older deb files no longer located on the ubuntu ftp?02:08
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de_ad2MEwow it didnt work for the last hour and half and after reading that doc for 2 minutes it works02:10
de_ad2MEthank you very much SeanTater02:10
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tadgadaok, i found my answer :) The ms-sys package will write all kind of ms mbr :)02:11
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tadgadathank you all, good evening02:11
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compengiLjL: i finished from downloading gaim stuff, what should i do next?02:12
LjLcompengi: try "./configure"02:13
AdamKiliwhat is the terminal command for switching desktops???02:14
bsniderwhy is the router listed as the first nameserver in resolv.conf?02:14
compengiLjL: it worked now doing make command02:15
LjLbsnider: because routers generally act as nameservers, i suppose02:15
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bsniderLjL: is that a joke?02:15
LjLbsnider: why should it be a joke?02:16
neemzhey folks i've decided to start using linux more but I have one issue, i'm currently doing some large (8gb) downloads in azureus in windows, if I install azureus in linux can I continue them there?02:16
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LjLbsnider, if you have a DSL router or some other sort of home router, it's extremely likely that it can, and does, act as a DNS nameserver.02:16
bsniderneemz: yes02:16
oidiawhat is the "extended" fdisk called?02:16
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xulundcfdisk ?02:17
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neemzcan I continue them writing to the same NTFS disk? if I use this new fangled NTFS-3g thing?02:17
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^Alan^i think its cfdisk02:17
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bsniderLjL: routers do not run DNS servers02:17
oidiaxulund: thanks :)02:17
oidiai forgot :P02:17
bsniderLjL: routers run DHCP servers02:17
deltaman2any one from egypt???????????02:17
neemzOr will NTFS-3G eat my hard disks?02:17
LjLbsnider: many routers can and do run DNS server. please try "nslookup www.google.com IP-of-your-router".02:18
bsniderLjL: that doesn't work02:18
compengiLjL: the make process takes time lol02:18
^Alan^it doesnt work LjL...nice try though :)02:18
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agentanyone have a suggestion on how to finalize my jigdo iso when 9 debs are missing in the archives?02:19
LjLcompengi: that's quite normal. it's compiling a huge program.02:20
Mad3Max3whats the deal with the nvidia drivers.. do they update via synaptic?02:20
compengiLjL: after the make command what should i do?02:20
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compengiLjL: make install?02:20
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ahmed-elmasryhi all02:21
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LjLcompengi: "sudo make install", or "sudo checkinstall" (after installing checkinstall) to be able to track the files it adds and later remove them, if needed02:21
ahmed-elmasryi have problem02:21
ahmed-elmasryany one can help me02:21
tsoleranyone know about google earth instalation?02:21
jribahmed-elmasry: want to tell us the problem?02:21
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ahmed-elmasrymy pc dosemn't work with media02:21
tsolerlot of o people here02:22
jribahmed-elmasry: try to keep your responses in one line, don't use the enter key as punctuation.  What kind of media?02:22
tsoleranyone keen with google earth?02:22
ahmed-elmasryall media in examples is working well02:22
Mad3Max3I was wondering. Sound worked from start in my comp but now i want to get my s/pdif to work. do I have to install drivers for the onboard nvidia soundcard?02:22
jribtsoler: just run the installer02:22
compengiLjL: now install right?02:23
tsolerim very new to ubuntu02:23
Mad3Max3and in that case which drivers?02:23
ahmed-elmasryjrib : ok02:23
tsolerthe bin is the installer?02:23
LjLcompengi: look above, i just told you.02:23
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Mad3Max3Nobody that has onboard soundcard made by nvidia?02:23
ahmed-elmasryjrib: vidio & sound02:23
jribtsoler: http://earth.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=44713&  let me know if anything isn't clear on that page and I'll give you more detail02:23
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Mad3Max3have it in my nforce chipset02:23
tsolerok jrib i ll take a look02:24
jribahmed-elmasry: you need to be more specific.  Do all videos not have sound?02:24
compengiLjL: i did the command make install, now install command after it?02:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:24
agentis there any possible way that i can read the contents of an iso thats in the archives in a mount -o loop kind of way (besides downloading the whole thing)??02:24
nickspoon!mp3 > ahmed-elmasry02:24
LjLcompengi: no. if you already typed "sudo make install", you're finished.02:25
ahmed-elmasryjrib : i have ubuntu live cd02:25
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ahmed-elmasryall viseo in examples are working02:25
compengiLjL: oh then now i should close the gaim and open it again right?02:25
LjLcompengi: not the same gaim. you should run the gaim binary that was installed -- and find out where it was installed. possibly /usr/local/bin/gaim02:26
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Mad3Max3this blows :(02:26
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compengiLjL: yes it's there02:27
h2so what's the scoop on automatix?02:27
Mad3Max3LjL, do u know?02:27
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tsolerjrib: i open the terminal window is that right?02:28
jribtsoler: right02:29
LjLbsnider, and ^Alan^: http://www.linuxjournal.com/comment/reply/8317/124855 ("Some home routers, which set themselves up as your DHCP and DNS servers"), http://www.tomfotherby.com/Contents/Home/Computing/routerInterface.html ("Your router can act as the DNS server for your network."), http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkProblemsBeginnersGuide (" Most routers can be configured to act as DNS servers for your local network")02:29
tsolerhow do i navigate to a folder?02:29
LjLMad3Max3, i haven't the slightest idea02:29
jribtsoler: cd /path/to/folder     where did you download the .bin to?02:29
LjLcompengi: then run it02:29
compengiLjL: i did02:30
LjLcompengi: works?02:30
jribtsoler: so do 'cd ~/Desktop'  capitalization is important02:30
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Mad3Max3LjL, so the installed drivers for sound in ubuntu is all I need.. no need for installing anything else.. how did u do on your machine?02:30
compengiLjL: now compiling new x-chat02:30
LjLMad3Max3, i didn't do anything. sound just worked.02:30
ArrenLexVim and GNU Emacs. Which features does each have that the other doesn't?02:30
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tsoleris that cd ~/Desktop ?02:31
LjLoh my. ArrenLex, join #ubuntu-offtopic :-P02:31
tsolerok one moment02:31
ArrenLexIt's not ubuntu related? Hmm.02:31
Renan_s2ArrenLex, a lot02:31
Renan_s2most likely this will spark a flame war02:31
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LjLArrenLex, it's not a support question02:31
ArrenLexI don't want a flame war. That's why I didn't ask which is better.02:31
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compengiLjL: can you look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27605/02:32
c|intI finally got it now, after some tweaking02:32
LjLcompengi: sudo apt-get install libperl-dev02:32
cello_raspis there anything like stickynots but for images02:32
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tsolerok jrib02:34
jribtsoler: ok all done?02:34
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tsolerit asks mer now sothing about where to install it??02:35
tsolerinsatll path?02:35
c|intI finally got it :)02:35
c|intfor some reason.. nvidia-glx got out of the system, imagine that, or was some kind of diff settings :)02:36
tsolersorry it asks me the instalation path02:36
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jribtsoler: right, so you can install it in your home directory somewhere if you want02:36
c|inthad to do alot of things.. remove xserver-xorg, and put back in02:36
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tsolerand binary path02:36
Mad3Max3can't understand why everything has to be so darn complicated..02:36
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lostatcHow do you kill a process that you dont know the PID to?02:37
tsolerthe default location is /home/tsoler/google-earth/  is that right?02:37
jribtsoler: that will work fine02:37
Mad3Max3lostatc : type top02:37
c|intseems right tsoler02:37
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lostatcI tried that02:37
lostatcI dont see it02:37
lostatcVLC was running02:37
lostatcI closed it02:37
lostatcand its still playing music02:38
jriblostatc: pkill vlc02:38
Mad3Max3if there is a process runnin u will see it there02:38
c|intI finally got my nvidia agp working great with , edgy eft :)02:38
lostatcTahnk you pkill vlc worked and no vlc was not listed under top02:38
jribc|int: cool02:38
compengiLjL: i compiled xchat but how to make a short cut in applications>internet?02:38
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c|intsure gave me a lot of problems. but going out drinkin last nite, and then smokin last,nite and today, helped the stress :)02:39
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ahmed-elmasryohhhhhh i'm here02:39
LjLcompengi, i don't know, i'm not using Gnome. but i guess right click on the "Applications" menu should give you something.02:39
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lostatcthanks guys02:39
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ahmed-elmasryi have ubuntu live cd02:40
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jribahmed-elmasry: ok, you probably just need codecs.  Did you take a look at the page that nickspoon had ubotu send you?02:41
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tsolerjrib ok it is installed02:41
ahmed-elmasryi have instaled the latest ver. of real player02:42
jribtsoler: great02:42
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ahmed-elmasryput the same problem02:42
tsolerhow do i run it though?02:42
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jribtsoler: did it create a shortcut in applications > internet?02:42
jribahmed-elmasry: how did you install it?02:42
tonyyarussoIs it possible to modify the mime type of a folder?02:43
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ahmed-elmasrychmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin02:43
tsoleri dont find it in applications > internet02:44
jribtsoler: hmm, maybe it only does that if you install to /usr/local.  Well you can just do ~/google-earth/googleearth   and then create a shortcut for that02:44
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dr`venomhey guys, I have been trying to install nvidia drivers and getting ubuntu to offer me a 1440x900. Unfortunately, I have failed so far. Can anyone here help me. This is my first time trying ubuntu. I am a windows and suse user, so I am not familiar with ubuntu.02:44
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tonyyarusso!binarydriver > dr`venom02:44
tsoleri found it in my folder02:44
jribahmed-elmasry: try typing 'real' and then pressing tab in a terminal02:44
tonyyarusso!fixres > dr`venom02:44
jkku3i have a question, my friend just installed ubuntu and is having touble mounting his FAT32 partition, can anybody help?02:44
tsolerbut how can i run it jrib02:45
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dr`venomlet me give that a try02:45
jribtsoler: just type ~/google-earth/googleearth and press enter02:45
tsolerwhats the .exe in linux?02:45
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ahmed-elmasryin anormal user or root02:45
wickedpuppytsoler, a file with +x02:45
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jribahmed-elmasry: normal user02:45
ahmed-elmasrynothing happens02:45
jribahmed-elmasry: press it twice02:46
andyis there a way to permantly mount a network folder with 'smbfs'?  Everytime i restart, I have to re mount...02:46
RogerBaconhey, i use LSUSB to find my Gigabeat S player ID ... : Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0930:0010 Toshiba Corp. What the adress yould like in libgphoto ?02:46
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jribahmed-elmasry: I don't use realplayer, so I don't know what command it uses :/02:46
ianmacgregorandy: I just foundinfo on that earlier today. google for "hacking the nautilus tree view"02:47
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RogerBaconexemple of a ID in libgphoto : {"Toshiba:Gigabeat",                    0x0930, 0x000c, 0},02:47
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wickedpuppyahmed-elmasry, when you type real and press tab what you get ?02:47
tsolerit says it is running??02:47
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tsolerbut i cant see it02:47
jribtsoler: what says what is running?02:47
andyIm not getting nice results with that search02:47
wickedpuppyahmed-elmasry, then you got no .... real ?02:47
andyI dont know what to search for02:47
amicrawlehow do i turn on my  3com card 10/100  my duplex is off or on dont know witch  can any body help me please02:48
ahmed-elmasryi'll tray again02:48
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gnu2it2does edgy go production next week or so ?02:48
tsolerterminal:tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$ ~/google-earth/googleearth02:48
tsolerGoogle Earth appears to be running already. Please kill the02:48
tsoler existing process, or delete /home/tsoler/.googleearth/instance-running-lock if this is an error.02:48
jribahmed-elmasry: type 'hash -r'  and then try the tab thing again02:48
wickedpuppyahmed-elmasry, that question been done ? sorry i thought you were trying to run real player02:48
amicrawlei use dapper kernal 68602:48
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tsolerterminal says :tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$ ~/google-earth/googleearth02:48
tsolerGoogle Earth appears to be running already. Please kill the02:48
tsoler existing process, or delete /home/tsoler/.googleearth/instance-running-lock if this is an error.02:48
viatoruse the command prompt02:48
jribtsoler: don't paste here, use pastebin02:48
viatorclose all applications02:48
ianmacgregorandy: See item 4 here: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/GnomeNautilus02:48
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Lam_800 MHz / 256 MB.  XFCE or KDE?02:49
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DigitalNinjaAnyone here use aircrack?02:49
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Dackeli need help with qmake02:49
amicrawleuse qmake02:49
tsolerit says google earth is  running already02:49
amicrawleis better more eye candy02:49
Dackelin which do I find it02:49
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amicrawlei use make and makeinstall02:50
jribtsoler: ps -ef | grep google02:50
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ianmacgregorDackel: apt-cache search qmake  or open synaptic and search for qmake02:50
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tsolerok jrib02:51
tsolerthanx a lot02:51
jribtsoler: what is the output?02:51
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tsolerseems ok but slow02:52
jribtsoler: oh ok so it is working now, yeah google earth has high requirements02:52
tsolera prompt for missing font02:52
tiredbonesI never had sound on my systems before, but duaghter needs it for school. I bought the book "Beg. Ubuntu Linux" because it has a section media. One of the reocurring messages I get is "totem could not startup". I'm not playnig movies. Does this have to be removed?02:52
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jribtiredbones: do you get a more meaningful message if your run totem from the terminal?02:53
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tsolerand something about needed updated driver02:53
RMorris84is it possible to make a folder in the file system?02:53
RMorris84im running out of room for my music and have space there i would like to store some stuff02:54
jribRMorris84: yes, right click > create folder02:54
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jribin your home directory, that should work02:54
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tiredbonesjrib, to start do I enter "totem"02:54
jribtiredbones: yep02:54
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black_13is there a package for the serlook application?02:54
joshierHow do I set the root password?02:55
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jribubotu: tell joshier about root02:55
joshierand why isn't it in the help?02:55
joshier/black_13\: passwd what?02:55
tiredbonesjrib, nothing happens!02:55
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agentjoshier: because you should use sudo, not root02:55
[Daniel] Does anyone know what to do about this: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Found02:55
jribjoshier: the wiki page ubotu sent you explains all02:55
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oidiahow did i view the sizes/empty space om my disks?02:55
[Daniel] I can't seem to apt-get upgrade my system :-(02:55
RMorris84jrib: i have my /home on one partition thats is getting full, and then the rest on another partition that isnt near full, where i want to create another folder to store music lol02:56
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[Daniel] Just get lots of Err 30202:56
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jribRMorris84: oh I see, well just use 'sudo mkdir foo' in a terminal02:56
oin1hi all, anyone knows how to make an smp-kernel to boot in uni-processor mode?02:56
joshier/jrib\: If you have no internet, and you need to work out how to set the root password, how the hell can you find out?02:56
black_13oidia du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n02:56
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tsolerjrib do i need the terminal to run it everytime?02:56
jribRMorris84: then you will probably want to use the chown command to give ownership to your user02:56
oidiaok, thanks02:56
samson_86hey all. having some problems with wifi. I was under the impression that dlink cards (mine is dwl-g520) worked fine straight out of the box, but it's not being recognized this time. found a page saying I should get madwifi but the instructions failed. running on ubuntu edgy server. any suggestions?02:56
jribtsoler: no, create a new shortcut with that command02:56
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agent[Daniel] : your package list is out of date, run sudo apt-get update02:56
jribjoshier: you don't need to set a root password02:57
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ianmacgregorjoshier: You're not supposed to set a root password, the root account is locked, you don't need to log into root at all. best to use sudo/gksudo02:57
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joshier/jrib\: what if you have no internet, and you need to use ndiswrapper?02:57
black_13what im looking for is if serlook has been packaged into ubuntu02:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serlook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:57
agentjoshier: as everyone here is telling you... .you use sudo instead of root02:57
Mad3Max3Do I have to install anything to get s-pdif to work, got a Nforce chipset with a Realtek soundcard with spdif outbracket. I like to get digital sound out to my reciver?02:57
jribjoshier: again, you don't need a root password, you use sudo.  The ndiswrapper stuff is on the cd by the way02:57
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jribubotu: tell joshier about ndiswrapper02:58
black_13ianmacgregor i know its suse02:58
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black_13in suse02:58
black_13i mean02:58
jellyIs /etc/lsb-release the one true way to detect ubuntu?02:58
nrdbwith ghostscript there are lots of files in the fonts directory with weird names like b018035l.pfb how do I relate these to font names ?02:58
[Daniel] agent> When I run apt-get update I get lots of: "Failed to fetch ... archive.ubuntu.com ... 302 Found"02:58
ianmacgregorjelly: It's probably the best: lsb_release -a02:59
[Daniel] Is archive.ubuntu.com down?02:59
agent[Daniel] : your sources.list is wrong02:59
joshier/agent\: you cannot use ndiswrapper (installing a .inf driver) without the root because you need write access. Go ahead, try it for yourself.02:59
agent[Daniel] : 10 seconds ago i just synced archives.ubuntu.com so its not down :)02:59
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ianmacgregorjoshier: you can get write access if you use sudo03:00
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jellyianmacgregor: thanks!03:00
[Daniel] Hmmm03:00
jribjoshier: sudo foo, is the same as running foo as root03:00
agentjoshier: again, use sudo...!03:00
[Daniel] deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse03:00
[Daniel] Looks about right to me?03:00
[Daniel] I don't know a lot about Ubuntu though :)03:00
joshier/ianmacgregor\: i've gone through this tons of times before, yes you can use sudo as your username, but to use ndiswrapper and install a driver, you need root access03:00
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ianmacgregorjoshier: No, you don't. Tons of people have installed it using sudo03:00
agentjoshier: your not using sudo correctly03:01
joshierok, i'll bet you money on that, if you loose, you pay me money on my paypal account03:01
agentjoshier: please read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:01
ianmacgregorjoshier: I'll bet you aren't using sudo correctly03:01
jellywhatever, one can always run sudo su - and get a clean root shell.03:01
ianmacgregoragent: Thank you03:01
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dr`venomi've installed the nvidia driver but I get an error when I type in sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:02
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jribdr`venom: what error?03:02
dr`venomit says error you x configuration has been altered03:02
dr`venomand it says to do it manually03:02
jribdr`venom: did you try doing it manually?03:02
ianmacgregordr`venom: Do it manually03:02
dr`venomso should I go to xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia?03:02
jribdr`venom: yep, that's all that comand does03:02
[Daniel] Hmmm, seems to work now. Maybe it was a temporary network hickup.03:02
ianmacgregordr`venom: yes03:02
dr`venomI did it before and I had to reinstall ubuntu03:02
tiredbonesjrib, From reading the man page it sound like totem is at the heart of any form of media on linux. Is this so?03:03
dr`venomok here we go03:03
[Daniel] Thanks for your help agent03:03
hondjedr`venom: If you do that, also comment out loading the DRI module03:03
dr`venomdont know what comment out means03:03
emmettshear_What's the next step for debugging a usb device when you've installed the driver, and you can see the device in lsusb, but it still doesn't work?03:03
hondjedr`venom: put a # on the line03:03
agent[Daniel] : do you want me to send you a copy of my sources.list?03:03
jribtiredbones: no, there are many alternatives.  Totem is just default.  When you said "nothing happens", did you just get dropped back to a prompt or did it hang?03:03
[Daniel] agent> Sure that'd be great03:03
hondje#       Load    "dri" for example03:03
agent[Daniel] : err... not send but i will paste it03:03
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[Daniel] agent> Sure03:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:03
[Daniel] :)03:04
tiredbonesjrib, it just dropped back to prompt.03:04
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agent[Daniel] : also, just so you know archives.ubuntu.com is not down im downloading updates from it as we speak03:04
[Daniel] agent> Yeah it seems to be working now, I'm thinking it might have been a temporary network thing03:05
jribtiredbones: ps -ef | grep totem         turn up anything?03:05
ianmacgregor!easysource > [Daniel] 03:05
Mad3Max3Do I have to install anything to get s-pdif to work, got a Nforce chipset with a Realtek soundcard with spdif outbracket. I like to get digital sound out to my reciver?03:05
dr`venomso, will it look like this: Driver   #"nvidia"03:05
agentianmacgregor: nice :)03:05
ianmacgregoragent: :)03:05
agent[Daniel] : just in case: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27616/03:05
dr`venomsorry, i'm new at this!03:05
agent!easysource > agent03:05
jribdr`venom: yes except there is no #03:06
tiredbonesjrib,  5984  5567  0 21:05 pts/0    00:00:00 grep totem, this anything/03:06
hondjedr`venom: No, that part will just be Driver        "nvidia" , you want to comment out the load dri part in the 'modules' section03:06
scodilacpi works fine on the liveCD, but on my current system, some things don't work, like the battery meter and the ac connect/disconnect events.  how do I find out what's different between the livecd and my current system?03:06
jribtiredbones: no, strange.  How about if you do 'totem /path/to/some/mediafile'03:06
agentianmacgregor: just so you know that link does not have edgy option03:06
agent[Daniel] : your trying to update edgy, right? if not dont use my sources ;)03:07
ianmacgregoragent: Well, edgy folks should be in #ubuntu+q anyway. But, thank you for that info, I didn't know that.03:07
emmettshear_because I'd really love to get my webcam working tonight03:07
dr`venomI see the a load "dri"03:07
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dr`venomis that where i am doint the #03:07
[Daniel] agent> Yep, I'm trying to run edgy :)03:07
jribdr`venom: yeah, put it at the beginning of the line before any letters03:07
emmettshear_any experts who could help make that happen? I promise I'm polite and you won't have to explain how "grep" works03:07
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dr`venom#   Load   "dri"03:08
dr`venomlike that?03:08
jribdr`venom: ye03:08
agent[Daniel] : select the download as text link and copy from/paste from that because paste bin adds #'s and spaces03:08
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[Daniel] agent> Thanks, looks like the same of mine but in the opposite order.03:08
black_13ok this is a stretch but can rpms be installed on ubuntu03:09
[Daniel] agent> Going to try them just to see what happens :)03:09
hondjeblack_13: Yes, using 'alien', but usually if there's an RPM, there's a .deb03:09
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jribblack_13: not recommended03:09
agent[Daniel] : sure, why not? ;)03:09
dr`venomoh one more thing, my native resolution is 1440x900. I dont see that available. Can I add it to the list of resolutions?03:09
[Daniel] Yay, running an upgrade seems to be working now03:09
black_13hondje i have been looking for a deb for serlook03:09
[Daniel] And now I'm off, catch you guys later :)03:09
ianmacgregorblack_13: Not a good idea. Better to get an Ubuntu .deb or compile from source if it isn't inthe repos.03:09
[Daniel] Thanks for the help agent, much appreciated03:09
hondjedr`venom: yes, you can add it where the other ones are03:09
agentdr`venom: you can add any resolution you wish :)03:09
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agent[Daniel] : thank you for giving me the chance to help ;)03:10
Mad3Max3crimsun , are u there?03:10
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).03:10
[Daniel] :)03:10
black_13i have run apt-cache search serlook and no luck03:10
[Daniel] Have a good one03:10
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hondjeblack_13: http://freshmeat.net/projects/serlook/ that one?03:10
black_13yes i believe so03:10
crimsunMad3Max3: I'm fairly busy atm.03:10
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agentblack_13: just so you know: packages.ubuntu.com <--- find packages for any/all ubuntu releases03:11
dr`venomdo I need to restart?03:12
agentblack_13: and serlook is not in official repos03:12
black_13thanks agent03:12
Mad3Max3crimsun, ok! but a fast question. I've read that I have to unmute the spdif in the alsamixer. but since I don't even have a row for spdif in my alsamixer I wonder if I have to activate it or something03:12
cgardnerHey guys, I have an ipw2200 wireless card and network-admin doesn't detect my ssid (which is broadcasting).  Any suggestions?03:12
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hondjeblack_13: Hmm, yep :-) You can use the rpm with alien, for something like that it shouldn't be too chaotic03:12
black_13agent becuase its a pain to build ... i have it seems to build fine on rpm based distros (mandrake suse)03:13
agentdr`venom: why do you think you need to restart?03:13
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ianmacgregordr`venom: For nvidia driver install? No, no need to restart.03:13
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tiredbonesjrib, tired to use pastbin, not working.   (totem:6092): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libcdda.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libcdda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory). What package am I missing?03:13
tsolerare u still here?03:13
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steeltoes1234hey hey.   can someone give me some advice about trying to set up XGL?  i am bit of a noob03:13
GTroyhopefully someone can help me add a file to /etc/profile?03:14
jribtsoler: yes03:14
LjL!xgl > steeltoes123403:14
agent!list > agent03:14
tsolerhow can i find which graphic card my system sees?03:14
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black_13will alien tell me what deb files are needed?03:14
agenttsoler: lspci probably03:14
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ianmacgregorblack_13: alien is dangerous, don't use it03:15
ianmacgregor!alien > black_1303:15
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jribtiredbones: are you using dapper?03:15
steeltoes1234ok i want to install XGL.  i understand that i require 3d accelerated drivers installed first.   I have a ATI 9600 pro card.     how can i tell if i have the correct drivers installed or not?03:15
tiredbonesjrib, yes03:15
LjLsteeltoes1234, ask in #ubuntu-cgl03:15
LjL#ubuntu-xgl even03:15
steeltoes1234ok thanks03:15
ArrenLex!tell steeltoes1234 about ati03:15
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tiredbonesjrib, I'm using the alternate version.03:16
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jribtiredbones: ok, did totem still not startup?  I don't think that warning is anything to worry about since no package actually installs that file and I use totem fine without it03:17
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black_13question if compile and build the executeable static would it then run on another distro?03:17
LjLblack_13: might.03:17
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black_13a big maybe then?03:17
ArrenLexblack_13: should.03:17
ianmacgregorblack_13: It's best to build it on the system you plan to run it on03:17
hondjeOr have a second toolchain03:17
black_13somedays i hate linux well not linux ... the kernel is great but its this fracturing that kills me03:18
tiredbonesjrib, am I supposed to start it?03:18
bruenigyou say fracturing, I say options03:18
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jribtiredbones: well typing 'totem' should start it is what I mean03:18
ArrenLexblack_13: that's why you release source code!03:19
jribtiredbones: in this case we did 'totem /path/to/some/file'03:19
Mezbruenig, I agree, fracturing/forking/spooning (not that way!) is bad... so much wasted effort with everyone duplicating coding etc etc03:19
black_13ah here come the flames03:19
steeltoes1234i cant seem to get into #ubuntu-xgl03:19
Mezmake one linux, everyone work together, no redundant brain cycles03:19
LjLsteeltoes1234: actually, you're there right now.03:19
dr`venomok, so i have added my resolution "1440x900" to the xorg.conf file and I still dont get the option when I try to change it under system > preference > screen resolution. As a matter of fact, i only get for options of resolution while the xorg.conf file has about 7.03:19
ArrenLexMez: you can't make everyone work together, though. They all want different things.03:19
jribdr`venom: did you restart X?03:20
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steeltoes1234but i t wont let me type there says i need to be an operator03:20
ArrenLexsteeltoes; I got in fine. o_O03:20
precatori just installed ubuntu but i dont know the default username and password03:20
dr`venomI restarted my computer, so I take it it must have restarted x03:20
precatorcan ayone help me03:20
hondjeblack_13: have you looked at snooper and ttysnop at all?03:20
jribprecator: it should have prompted you for taht during the install03:20
hondjeat least I think that's the name of the pkgs ....03:20
MezArrenLex, true, however, for example, all the different config tools people have for gnome... all the different distros have different things - but they all do the same job...03:20
Mezstuff like that gets on my nerves03:20
hondjeyep, it's still snooper03:21
tiredbonesjrib, 'totem /path/to/some/file', the file is a wav file format. It suppose to tell my daughter how to pronouce a french word.03:21
black_13no i havent if they work ill ditch serlook its to much of pain to get working and i have to use debian/ubuntu03:21
precatorthanks jrib03:21
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brueniglinux's purpose is to provide other options to that which exists (I know that is not its only purpose but that is one of the big draws for windows people tired of windows). If you say you can no longer provide other options through forking and different distros and whatnot, you defeat the purpose.03:21
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hondjeblack_13: i use snooper, it works pretty smoothly03:21
steeltoes1234arrenlex: ya i just figured it out03:21
rockzmanCan anyone help me with Wireless drivers ?03:21
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hondjeWell, by 'use' I mean 'very rarely get bugged by something not working and break it out to see what's happening, and have to RTFM all over again' :)03:22
jbmigelrockzman http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=219f54cb6bc076ae1178fd2818a1a30f&t=3192603:22
jribtiredbones: so other than the warning, nothing else happened and totem failed to open right?  If that's the case, then I don't know but we can just try a different player for you to hear the file03:22
rockzmanjbmigel it is not an usual information03:22
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jbmigelrockzman well ask an unusual question then please03:22
rockzmanjbmigel i am using prism2_usb for a wireless usb adapter and it says "operation not supoprted" when i try setting up an essid what does it means03:23
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tiredbonesjrib, you are right03:23
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black_13what i like about serlook is that i could watch the stream of bytes comeing and going its similar to a win32 prog call sermon03:23
dr`venomI love linux, but I seem to find some issue with every distro that I have. Then again, I have only been using linux for a few months. I do hope to abandon windows once I can find a distro that can work properly with my hardware. So far, abuntu is the closest03:23
agentanyone know if jigdo files will be provided for desktop cd? (edgy stable)03:23
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jribtiredbones: try installing gxine from the repositories and see if that works for you03:24
agentdr`venom: or replace the odd hardware to work with linux :)03:24
tiredbonesjrib, ok03:24
dr`venomwell, my video card works fine in suse, but my sound card does not03:24
jbmigelrockzman your should try to attach to your router from command line by AP address instead03:24
dr`venommy sound card works great in ubuntu03:24
jbmigelrockzman iwconfig03:24
dr`venombut not my resolution03:24
rockzmanjbmigel i tried installing with slackware and now i am trying with ubuntu 6.0603:25
kitchedr`venom: what video card?03:25
ianmacgregordr`venom: Did you restart X ?03:25
rockzmanjbmigel ok on iwconfig wlan0 sit0 eth003:25
dr`venomso, I dont think it is the hardware. It is namely my lack of knowledge when it comes to linux03:25
dr`venomgforce fx520003:25
rockzmanjbmigel then iwconfig wlan0 essid "ANY" or -- any03:25
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ianmacgregordr`venom: That card works, I use it03:25
dr`venomit supports 1440x900 resolution in suse03:25
=== hondje has the same card ;-)
dr`venomso I konw linux supports it03:25
rockzmananswer: operation not supported jbmigel03:25
jbmigelrockzman no iwconfig wlan0 AP 12:23:34:45:5603:25
hondjedr`venom: That's probably an issue with horiz / vert ratesx03:25
ianmacgregordr`venom: Did you restart X ?03:26
agentdr`venom: if it supports it in suse, it supports it in ubuntu... both use xorg :)03:26
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kitchedr`venom: to get higher res you need the binary driver the nv driver doesn't really support high resolutions03:26
dr`venomI just dont know why I can't get that resolution in ubuntu03:26
ianmacgregoragent: good point03:26
jbmigelrockzman where the numbers match the ap address of your router... get that with iwlist03:26
dr`venomI did03:26
dr`venomI have the nvidia driver03:26
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dr`venomit says "nvidia" in xorg.conf03:26
hondjedr`venom: does sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange say anything?03:26
dr`venomlet me check03:26
rockzmanjbmigel iwlist wlan0 scanning:03:27
jbmigeliwlist wlan0 scan03:27
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tiredbonesjrib, can I use synaptic to install gxine or do I do apt-get?03:27
jribtiredbones: whichever you prefer03:27
ianmacgregortiredbones: Synaptic is a front=end for apt03:27
rockzmank brb03:27
c|inti got a problem03:27
dr`venomI see my resolution in there03:27
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dr`venombut I can't get it from the system menu03:27
agentdr`venom: when you make changes to xorg you need to restart it (ctl+alt+del) - restarting xorg will of course restart your whole dekstop (and quick your programs)03:27
jbmigelrockzman you should be able to attch with essid if you specify it... they driver for your device obviously doesnt support the "any" parameter03:28
c|intAzureus won't load03:28
hondjedr`venom: something like monitorrange: 31-96, 55-160 ?03:28
c|intand I got java installed, and everything03:28
ianmacgregordr`venom: Do you use xchat?03:28
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dr`venomlet me check03:28
Madeyeany dyndns alternative ?03:28
dr`venom31-81, 56-7503:28
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dr`venomthat is my monitor range03:28
agentdr`venom: if you modified xorg.conf with the new resolution, you need to restart xorg to have it as an option in the resolution dialog (i think)03:28
tiredbonesianmacgregor, how do you get synaptic to get a package if it's not found in the search?03:28
dr`venomI did restart it agent03:28
c|intdr venom03:28
dr`venomI restarted my computer03:28
c|intdo you need help with your video settings eh03:29
agentdr`venom: ok03:29
bruenigtiredbones, what package are you looking for?03:29
c|intwhat kind of card you hve03:29
tiredbonesbruenig, gxine03:29
ianmacgregortiredbones: If you're sure it's in the repos, you need to edit your sources.list and add the proper repo03:29
dr`venomgforce fx520003:29
bun-bunMadeye# check www.tzo.com03:29
c|intoh okay lmao03:29
c|intsame 1 I have :)03:29
jribc|int: do you get any error output from a terminal with azureus?03:29
bruenigtiredbones, have you enabled the universe repo?03:29
jrib!info gxine03:29
ubotugxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 301 kB, installed size 804 kB03:29
c|intI was busy since last nite, getting video card working great03:29
hondjedr`venom: okay, in the Monitor section of xorg.conf, put in HorizSync      31-81 and then VertRefresh      56-75, restart xorg, and see if you can get the higher resolution03:29
dr`venomand I have an lcd with a 1440x900 native resolution03:30
hondjethat usually fixes the problem for me03:30
Madeyebun-bun, are they good ?03:30
jbmigelc|int does nvidia driver still do that splash screen thing? that was cool03:30
bun-bunMadeye# i have no idea03:30
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bruenigtiredbones, use this graphical tutorial to enabled the extra repos, after you are done with that. Go back in synaptic and reload and then look for it. It should be there. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309603:30
c|intafter you install,  nvidia-glx nvidia-settings03:30
kitchejbmigel it will always do that unless you turn that option off in xorg.conf03:30
tiredbonesbruenig, how do you do that?03:30
c|intsudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:31
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hondjejbmigel: Yes, unless you have NoLogo in the device section03:31
c|intdr venom03:31
jbmigelkitche hondje i have ati card now... just curious... it was wicked the first time you see it03:31
tiredbonesbruenig, thanks03:31
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c|intfirst of all, what video display modes you want supported03:31
hondjejbmigel: I have it on my TV, freaks people out when I turn it on ;-)03:31
atom_hi guys! :)03:31
c|intdr venom03:32
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atom_whats the equivalent of winamp for linux? :)03:32
dr`venomI had an error when I enabled it, SO I did it manually03:32
Pierreatom_: xmms03:32
ianmacgregoratom_: xmms or bmp03:32
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c|intI also did a, apt-get dist-upgrade, with edgy eft03:32
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c|intyeah, but your performance isn't working as fast as you thought it would?03:32
atom_does xmms support shoutcast?03:32
LjLatom_: you have RhythmBox installed (it's in Applications / Sound). that's the default audio player. the one that looks the most like winamp is xmms03:32
atom_or rythm?03:33
kitcheatom_: yes but you have to know the url to the server sicne xmms won't let you search for streams in the program03:33
ParisiAnyone know an easy way to upgrade dapper to Edgy from apt?03:33
c|intdr venom03:33
c|intwhat issues are you having03:33
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c|intyes Parisi03:33
jribParisi: you understand edgy is not released as stable yet?03:33
LjL!edgy > Parisi03:33
c|intI can give you what I hvae in my /etc/apt/sources.list03:33
Parisijrip, of course, neither is Beryl :003:33
jribubotu: tell Parisi about upgrade03:34
Parisijrip, I run Linux for testing purposes03:34
FalstiusParisi: gksu update-manager -c -d03:34
Parisijrip, For fun anyways03:34
c|intdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe03:34
c|intdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe03:34
ParisiThanks mate :003:34
c|intyvw ;)03:34
ParisiIt will keep me busy until i switch to OSX03:35
tsolerjrib: how do i call i directory from terminal03:35
c|intif you want the whole entire source.list txt. let me know03:35
jribtsoler: cd /path/to/directory03:35
jribubotu: tell tsoler about cli03:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:35
Falstiuswhy would you want to switch ... ohwell.03:35
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dr`venomdoes the 31-81 go in ""03:35
tsolerok guys im sorry03:35
jribtsoler: sorry for what?03:36
hondjedr`venom: no03:36
tsolerfor flood03:36
black_13why doesnt kdevelop show up on my search of deb files?03:36
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c|intheres latest03:36
dr`venomok so under identifier and option Im puting in Horizync   31-8103:36
tsolerdont know how tro hung around03:36
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LjLblack_13: do you have universe enabled?03:36
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c|intis that what it can do03:37
black_13i thought so03:37
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Mad3Max3How do I get s-pdif to work, I have a nvidia onboard sound.. Nforce chipset 430. Can't find any options in alsamixer about spdif..03:37
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hondjeblack_13: if it is, did you do apt-get update? :)03:37
LjLblack_13: try "sudo apt-get update" and then try again. also, note than in dapper the package is "kdevelop3" not just "kdevelop"03:37
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bruenigc|int, what are you trying to do?03:37
c|intjust get Azureus working :-)03:38
black_13ljl i didnt add universe every where03:38
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c|intI posted that for Parisi, to upgrade :-)03:38
bruenigoh Azureus is a pain because of ownership issues generally03:38
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Parisic|int,  ohm thanks.03:38
jribc|int: do you get any ouput when you run azureus from a terminal?03:38
K1765Hey anyone here can help me with linux install, pm me plz03:38
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ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.03:38
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c|intStartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [ 6880] 03:39
atom_how do you increase brightness?03:39
tsolerok i bookmarked this clint03:39
black_13i want to be able to compile qt applications from source (my own sources) what packages will i need to bring down to get all of qt3/qt4?03:39
bruenigatom_, should be some buttons on your monitor03:39
ianmacgregoratom_: With some people, you just can't, lol03:39
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K1765well, I dl ubuntu, and put on CD. I changed bios to priority cd rom first, and it just comes to the "starting windows in normal mode in 30 seconds" what I do wrong?03:39
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kitcheatom_: it's a setting in xorg.conf also but it's called gamma03:39
jribc|int: ps -ef | grep azureus     show any azureus running?03:39
Parisigksu "update-manager -c -d"  What about that method?03:40
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c|intmake sure you clear everything out of the sources.list , if you want to upgrade03:40
bruenigK1765, did you burn the iso as an image or just burn it as data?03:40
kitcheatom_: what drivers are you using since nvidia has a program to do it also03:40
LjLgamma != brightness though03:40
ianmacgregorK1765: Did you burn the ISO to cd as a file or as an image?03:40
K1765as an image03:40
bruenigK1765, did you check the md5sum before you burned it?03:40
ianmacgregorK1765: Perhaps it's a bad burn. did you check the ISO md5sum before burning?03:40
dr`venomwow, now x server wont start after the HoriSync thing03:40
atom_whats the show all hard drives command?03:40
ianmacgregorbruenig: hahahaha03:40
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NN-DMTHey everyone. I issued the command : gksudo "update-manager -c -d" and get a problem with the update manager03:41
hondjejrib: You might like pgrep :)03:41
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:41
bruenigK1765, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto03:41
NN-DMTit says "unable to calculate the upgrade"03:41
ianmacgregorbruenig: You and I seem to be on the same wavelength tonight03:41
Myrthhi, anyone knows what it means when during pvmove it's stuck on "Loading Ubuntu-pvmove0"? ..03:41
bruenigechos all over the place03:41
K1765its on the cd as an .iso file o.003:41
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ianmacgregorK1765: You need to burn it as an image03:42
bruenigK1765, right but maybe you had a bad download and the iso is corrupted03:42
dr`venomhm, i'm in front of a black screen with mariano-desktop login:03:42
c|intjust having issues, getting Azureus up and running03:42
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c|inttook care of , nvidia issues :-)03:42
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dr`venomno x server03:42
bruenigK1765, generally I download it via bittorrent so as to not have to deal with the md5 hassle03:42
dr`venomanyone know what I can do from here?03:42
bruenigdr`venom, login03:42
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K1765Whats a good program to burn as image to cd? thats free?03:43
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bruenigdr`venom, did you make any changes to your xorg.conf file before this no x server error happened?03:43
dr`venomi'm loged in03:43
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bruenigdr`venom, did you make a backup?03:43
ianmacgregorK1765: k3b, gnomebaker, graveman, there are lots03:43
Djnx does anyone happen to know what i need to add to the package manager sources.list? like the universal repositories03:43
jribc|int: that first process (6139) is azureus03:43
dr`venomI'm not sure03:43
atom_do you guys run an anti virus program?03:43
bruenigianmacgregor, he probably means on windows03:43
dr`venomis there a way to just go in there and erase it?03:44
ianmacgregor!repos > Djnx03:44
c|intI'm going get Opera up and running, hee I got so much on it, in Mandriva03:44
dr`venomI know exactly what I added before it had this error03:44
c|int9 meg down.. :)03:44
ianmacgregorbruenig: Oh, lol, I haven't touched that little toy in years.03:44
sproingieatom_: yeah.  linux.03:44
NN-DMTHey guys - can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27621/03:44
atom_theres supposedly 100+ viruses for linux03:44
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sproingieatom_: and none of them "in the wild"03:44
Mad3Max3I hate being stuck on such a small thing here.. sound works trhougt the headphone jacks on the mobo.. but I inserted a spdif bracket a 2 hours ago.. and started up again and had the illusion that there would exist a option in alsamixer about s-pdif since I have one on the mobo.. but no no.. nothing.. so here I am trying to figure this colundrum out03:45
atom_how liberating. i feel naked03:45
kitcheatom_: most are done by breaking into a system they aren't like windows where it will get infected automatically03:45
sproingienot much about linux precludes viruses.  just the way it is that there arent many out there03:45
c|intopera, went up nice and easily on, edgy edft03:45
bruenigdr`venom, when you get logged in do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you better make sure you know what you are doing though. Generally it saves the last backup so if you mess this up there is no way of recovering, Also that command as with all unix is case sensitive03:45
c|intI used the debian deb, for etch, not ubuntu packages :)03:45
K1765Any cd burners for windows ??03:45
sproingieatom_: mind you there are plenty of worm rootkits out there that will exploit things like phpBB or drupal or old mysql installs03:45
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dr`venomI got it :) thanks let me get my hands dirty03:46
NN-DMThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27621/ is the error im experiencing - any ideas?03:46
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm03:46
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ianmacgregorLOL @ nearest mental health institute!03:47
bruenigdr`venom, after you make your changes, ctrl+o will save and ctrl+x will exit. Then just do startx and it should startup if you did it right.03:47
atom_cool. bubble shows me what songs being played from shoutcast :)03:47
sproingienothing wrong with windows03:47
sproingiethat a bulk eraser can't fix03:47
NN-DMTbig magnets and wintel boxes make me very happy..03:47
jvaismh.. uall sik03:47
c|intopera is working fantastic03:48
NN-DMTIf my packages are all confused and messed up.. is there any way to force them to fix themselves?03:48
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dr`venomok, im in the file03:48
dr`venombut I see no letters03:48
K1765GRRR wow, how do i remove the dang .iso so i can reburn it?03:48
dr`venomhow do I erase the part that I added before the error?03:48
K1765(remove from the cd)03:48
dr`venomi'm I better off reinstalling ubuntu?03:48
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ianmacgregorK1765: You can't, just copy it or burn it from the cd03:49
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bruenigdr`venom, you said you knew where it was? Are you sure you typed that command in right. If you messed it in the slightest, it might have opened a blank file instead of the configuration file.03:49
dr`venomyea, i'm in there03:49
dr`venombut I get these options in the bottom part03:49
dr`venomG get help03:49
Djnxianmacgregor: thanks!03:49
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dr`venomx exit03:49
^Alan^I have a computer that uses dapper drake..its got a broadband connection through a network card...how do i set up my ubuntu to use this card?03:49
dr`venomand so forth03:49
ParisiUpgrading to Edgy :)03:49
dr`venombut there is nothing there03:49
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K1765burn it from what?? i cant burn the .iso to the same cd......03:50
dr`venomdo I type in ^R to read the file?03:50
bruenigdr`venom, all of those things mean ctrl+the letter. So for help do ctrl+G, or exit is Ctrl+X03:50
^Alan^gonna go03:50
ianmacgregorDjnx: You're welcome :)03:50
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bruenigdr`venom, if there is no text on the file you are looking at, you typed it in incorrectly, or you had no xorg.conf file03:50
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ianmacgregorK1765: Ok, you only have one cd-r drive? Ok, then pop in the cd, copy it to the hard drive, then put in a blank cd and burn it as an image from the hd03:51
DMTI really need some help :(03:51
teledyn!tell dr`venom about enter03:51
K1765it says read only so i cant use that cd anymore :/03:51
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jbmigelDMT whats up?03:51
K1765i only got 1 cd and its got the .iso on it...03:51
ianmacgregorK1765: But, you can copy the ISO from the cd to the hard drive03:51
DMTjbmigel, trying to upgrade to edgy...03:51
c|intwho is03:51
DMTjbmigel, im getting a really lame error03:51
K1765i got it on my hard drive already.......03:52
bruenigan error with lame, well it is just an mp3 decoder, I wouldn't worry too much about that03:52
ianmacgregorK1765: Ok, then burn it as an image to a blank cd-r03:52
hondjeDMT: there's a chan just for upgrading to edgy :)03:52
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K1765I just tried to burn it as an image and its on the only blank cd i had..... and i cant delete it so03:52
bruenigDMT, I saw that earlier from somebody else. It is impossible to derive anything from that.03:53
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K1765lol im not going to waste 10 blank cds on this crap if its not going to work03:53
jbmigelK1765 you have messed up, you cant overwrite your used disk... go borrow another they are 2 cents03:53
DMTwhere is the upgrade chan?03:53
ianmacgregorK1765: if you do it right, it will only us one blank cd03:53
bruenigK1765, obviously it works, else no one would have ubuntu and this channel wouldn't exist.03:53
hondjeDMT: #ubuntu+103:53
jbmigelK1765 also you could request the ubuntu gods to just mail you ojne03:53
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org03:54
K1765I did do it right the time, i burned it to the blank cd.......03:54
K1765and it dont work so03:54
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jbmigelk1765 you burned the iso file to the cd as data... you *should* have burned it as an image03:54
jojomahow you know it didnt work03:54
bruenigK1765, but the dowloaded iso might not have been correct. It might have been corrupted. You may have done everything else right but if you missed that, it won't work. If you still have the iso, perhaps verify with that link I gave you.03:55
ThirstehShipIt is an awesome feature, I must admit. I ordered a few a while back, not thinking I was going to use them since I have a DVDRW drive and a highspeed connection. Boy, was I wrong.03:55
ianmacgregorjojoma: because he sees the ISO file on the cd03:55
K1765ok well what burner can i use to burn it as an image then?03:55
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ThirstehK1765: Are you in Windows or Linux at the moment?03:55
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ThirstehSorry, didn't follow the conversation03:55
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K1765windows.....or i wouldnt be asking for help lol03:55
jbmigelk1765 you right click the .iso file and click "burn as image"03:55
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Thirstehjbmigel: That's not a native Windows feature03:55
jbmigelThirsteh well it ought to be03:56
ianmacgregorjbmigel: That would make sense, and we all know.. well, you get the idea.03:56
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Thirstehjbmigel: There's no limit to the things that should be builtin to Windows :p03:56
K1765lol jb, i have to have the program installed for that to be an option03:56
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tiredbonesbruenig, ok I can see gxine in synaptic. While in synaptic I notice that totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin are not installed. should they be?03:56
ThirstehK1765: Tried ISOBuster? I think it can do the job03:56
Mad3Max3if alsa can't find the control IEC958 .. then whats wrong.. tried this amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 003:56
K1765kk ill try that 1 sec03:56
jbmigelk1765 do you have any burning software installed? like nero?03:57
ThirstehK1765: I'm not really sure. It might just be a CD ripper, but I do reckon having used it to burn once.03:57
sethkMad3Max3, most likely the hardware doesn't support it.03:57
bruenigK1765, here is what the ##windows channel recommends, http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm03:57
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K1765yea...i tried that link already....03:57
ThirstehK1765: As long as you're just "Burning an ISO/Image" and not actually burning the ISO file to the CD, whatever program should do just fine.03:57
jbmigelk1765 install this and it will add "burn as image" to your windows http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm03:57
K1765that program wont work for me03:57
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ThirstehK1765: What jbmigel said :)03:58
bruenigtiredbones, not necessarily, it won't hurt to install them. Unless you are using some other engine that you know of, I would say try it and if you don't like it or something bad happens, you can uninstall it later.03:58
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dr`venomok, I am just going to reinstall ubuntu one more time and do the nvidia drivers again. I will finally try to fix the resolution issue one last time. I've done nothing but messed around with linux all day (lol). It was fun03:58
Mad3Max3sethk.. but is a ordinary Nvidia onboard soundcard.. in the Nforce 430 chipset.. it should support it.03:58
Thirstehdr`venom: Gotta break it to learn it :D03:58
GhostFreemanwhat's the unix command to search for files?03:58
XenguyGhostFreeman: find03:58
sethkMad3Max3, possibly the kernel support for it isn't compiled in (or the module isn't loaded).03:58
ThirstehGhostFreeman: Find, but you might wanna try the Slocate package ('locate')03:58
XenguyGhostFreeman: or locate03:59
kitcheGhostFreeman: you can do sudo updatedb then locate <file>03:59
tiredbonesbruenig, would they have stop totem from starting?03:59
ThirstehGhostFreeman: Do 'sudo updatedb' then go 'locate'ing crazy03:59
dr`venomunfortunately, I do not have much time cause of school (majoring in math and economics)03:59
bruenigtiredbones, no03:59
Thirstehkitche: ;P03:59
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bruenigtiredbones, just install gxine for now, those might interfere with gxine03:59
dr`venomHowever, I have to find an alternative to windows. I will not pay the $$$$$$ for vista03:59
rockzmanjbmigel hiho u said me to type iwlist wlan0 scan to verify if any access points were accessible03:59
Ragnaroekyou tell me03:59
Mad3Max3sethk, how do I see if the modules is loaded.. and where do I see which modules are loaded?03:59
rockzmanjbmigel may i tell you something03:59
dr`venomI rather donate that money to a distribution03:59
jbmigelrockzman did it work?04:00
rockzmanjbmigel no04:00
fiveironmmmm....6.10 is nice04:00
Thirstehdr`venom: Ubuntu is a step in the right direction. Biased, of course, but really, it is.04:00
sethkMad3Max3, lsmod lists loaded modules04:00
jbmigelrockzman that command didnt list available access points/04:00
tiredbonesbruenig, ok04:00
rockzmanjbmige it showed none access points04:00
bruenigK1765, when I switched, I used nero, but that costs money, unless of course you bittorrent it. Assuming you already have a copy that you accidentally uninstalled and the cd is scratched up so won't work, you could get that copy and use it.04:00
rockzmanmabe is my driver ? jbmigel u know the module prism2_usb?04:00
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jvaifor me.. hoary 5.04 was the xp killa, & for me still, dapper wil be the vista killa04:00
XenguyK1765: k3b04:00
dr`venomI know, I really like linux. Actually, I love it. I really like suse, ubuntu, and pclinux os. But I have had an issue with all of them04:01
dr`venomjust one issue04:01
Thirstehjvai: And Edgy will eliminate any opposition, right? :)04:01
bruenigXenguy, windows...04:01
jbmigelrockzman i dont know that device... did you have to install ndiswrapper?04:01
Xenguybruenig: np, just install linux04:01
rockzmanjbmigel i've tried to install the stable version04:01
dr`venomsuse: sound, ubuntu: no 1440x900 resolution, and PClinuxOS: no wpa wireless04:01
brueniglol, right he is looking for a windows burner04:01
jvailol.. edgy, is icing.... for ms's next whatever/.. lol04:01
sproingiei'm not an anti-MS bill-basher by any stretch but I'm staying away from vista too04:01
rockzmanjbmigel followed INSTALL file instructions and there was "unkown make command"04:01
sproingiethe insane system requirements did it for me04:02
rockzmaneven with sudo04:02
jbmigelrockzman were you successful? can you see your wlan0 in ifconfig?04:02
ParisiA bit too early to comment on Vista no?04:02
ParisiI think Vista will be fine.04:02
bruenigbut it has transparent windows, how can you resist that innovation that microsoft exclusively have figured out how to do.04:02
Thirstehdr`venom: To be honest, there's always a little something with any Linux, but as soon as you've gone through configuration, you'll find that it's NOTHING in comparison to the usual maintainability requirements of e.g. Windows04:02
Mad3Max3sethk, it says that the soundcard is loaded.. nothing specific about s-pdif thou..04:02
Djnxwhen it arrives04:02
Djnxand that weill04:02
dr`venomok installing ubuntu right now I'll be back when i'm done installing nvidia drivers. I hope I can get some help from you guys with the resolution. I really would appriciate it.04:02
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Djnxits likje vapourware04:02
ParisiThere will be a number of switchers from OSX and Linux.04:02
sproingiethe security model in vista looks like pop-up hell04:02
ParisiMark my words.04:02
sproingieDjnx: of course it's not vaporware04:02
rj-vista is garbage04:02
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jbmigelrockzman "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to add make to your system04:02
Mad3Max3sethk, does alsa autodetect stuff like s-pdif .. like on boot and such.04:02
dr`venomyup, I tried vista RC2 and it was no good04:02
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Djnxsproingie: its not vapourware, but lots of its features were04:03
ParisiI just hope they make it a little more speedier and less resource hog, jesus.04:03
jvaii'm on hoary still, & my box runs circles round the xp workstations on my job04:03
dr`venomslow, and I think the price is $400+04:03
sethkMad3Max3, ordinarily, yes, but there can always be exceptions.04:03
sproingieit's about $15004:03
bruenigprice, lol, bittorrent04:03
ParisiAnd i think $100 for a OS is reasonable.04:03
K1765so i burn as a .iso right?04:03
jvaii just cant get into the active dir @ work :(04:03
Mad3Max3sethk, maybe I have to reload something. since I installed the s-pdif bracket afterwards04:03
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GhostFreemanWhat's the most lightest way possible for me to install Amarok?04:03
sethkK1765, right04:03
Djnxbut youll have to wait at least for the first service pack to know how good vista actually is04:03
dr`venomthe ultimate edition is 400+04:03
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dr`venomthey have five versions I think04:03
jribGhostFreeman: sudo apt-get install amarok04:03
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XenguyK1765: nice -19 growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso04:04
sproingie$150 for the os, $350 for a new motherboard, video card, and cpu04:04
dr`venomtalk about price discrimination04:04
sethkMad3Max3, possible, yes.  there is a dpkg-reconfigure command you can run.04:04
steeltoes1234ok help me please.   i think i just removed the tab in my toolbar that will allow me to jump between the 4 workspaces on my desktop.    how do i get that back on my toolbar????04:04
K1765kk i found like 5 more blank cds so lol04:04
Parisisproingie,  How much would you pay for a mac to run OSX ?04:04
bruenigGhostFreeman, sudo aptitude install amarok, it is the best way and I assume lightest. I doubt it loads you down with stuff you don't need but you may try manually to see if some of the dependencies it adds are unneeded. Kind of doub it myself04:04
Parisisproingie,  Couple of 1k ?04:04
rockzmanjbmigel do i need to have internet connection to install build-essential package?04:04
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GhostFreemanthank you jrib, bruenig04:04
dr`venomI dont know man, I am a super leftist economist. I like the whole linux community thing. It is something very personal, unlike windows.04:04
jbmigelrockzman yes you will04:04
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ianmacgregorsteeltoes1234: right-click the panel, choose add to panel, find the workspace switcher and drag it to the panel04:05
jbmigelrockzman your not wired?04:05
bruenigGhostFreeman, you may want to give listen a try. It has all of the features of amarok. Or most I think. It has wikipedia and lyrics and all of that good stuff. Automatic album art download, etc. http://listengnome.free.fr/04:05
rockzmanjbmigel bad i have a 5.10 cd here04:05
rockzmanjbmigel ye but im using windows to login on iRC04:05
starsky-hutchydr`venom: :). I concur.04:05
steeltoes1234but the workspace switcher is gone!@04:05
ianmacgregorsteeltoes1234: look in the add to panel window to find it04:05
jbmigelrockzman you can download the build-essential package, then copy it over then install it manually04:05
Mad3Max3sethk, just type dpkg-reconfigure in terminal and enter?04:05
sethkMad3Max3, no, we need the package name to reconfigure04:06
starsky-hutchyLinux community is *alot* about freedom.04:06
ianmacgregorsteeltoes1234: It should be under Desktop & Windows04:06
steeltoes1234under preferences???04:06
rockzmanjbmigel where is this package available to download04:06
dr`venomYup, I think my thesis will be on linux and opensource04:06
dr`venomI have to learn about it more04:06
sproingieParisi: meh, the gui candy on vista is just part of it, and i'm kind of glad that they took GDI out behind the woodshed anyway04:06
ianmacgregorsteeltoes1234: right-click the panel, choose add to panel, find the workspace switcher in the add to panel window and drag it to the panel04:06
dr`venomthen, I can start building my econ graphs04:06
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Mad3Max3sethk, is it the alsa-mixer or alsa something?04:06
sproingieParisi: the user security model looks supremely annoying however04:07
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mathieu_anyone have suggestions of multiplayer popular linux multiplayer games ?04:07
dr`venomok, I am going to go get some coffee while ubuntu installs04:07
Thirstehmathieu_: Free or commercial?04:07
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sethkMad3Max3, no, the mixer uses it, but the mixer is just an app04:07
mathieu_Thirsteh: free of course04:07
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JsonTokay. i have downloaded a new cool coursor pack. sooo, how do i apply it?04:07
ianmacgregormathieu_: a nice, fast-paced, game you can try is bzflag04:08
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atom_there is no skype for x64 ? :(04:08
Thirstehmathieu_: Vendetta, if you like online space games. It's an MMORPG of sorts.04:08
c|intoh yeah, where did you get that, cusor pack from?04:08
mathieu_ianmacgregor: installing04:08
jbmigelrockzman you will also need your kernel-headers to build ndiswrapper... do you know what kernel you run while i look for link?04:08
ianmacgregormathieu_: That's a fast-paced game :) I always get my bum kicked, but I like it04:08
JsonThm... hold on, ill get the link...04:08
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steeltoes1234ok got the workspace switcher back.   thanks!04:09
Mad3Max3sethk, maybe alsa-base?04:09
ianmacgregorsteeltoes1234: :)04:09
DreamingRomjbmigel: you find that in synaptic04:09
DreamingRomor when you boot (grub)04:09
tiredbonesbefore I install gxine, could someone look at this. It pertains to totem. http://animimotus.pastebin.ca/21284604:09
steeltoes1234only thing though is now it is in the centre of the tool bar, can i get it to the right edge again?04:09
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jbmigelDreamingRom he has no network synaptic is useless... hey where is that repository file?04:10
jvaii want elive online for linux..04:10
JsonTsoo... how to apply? im very excited to have those cool cursors... yey..04:11
DreamingRomsorry, I read too fast04:12
JsonTahem... noone? :-/04:13
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sethkMad3Max3, could be any of the alsa packages.  check for an audio howto, it might not address your specific issue, but it will certainly tell you in general the way to reconfigure.04:13
sethkjbmigel, you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?04:14
gnu2it2any idea when flash will work in 64 bit systems?04:14
jbmigelsethk ya04:14
brueniggnu2it2, when they port it. I heard there is some plugin wrapper or something that works with flash 9 beta, but not using amd64 I have no idea04:14
Mad3Max3sethk , ok04:14
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dr`venomok setting up nvidia drivers. I have two hours before my date gets here04:15
gnu2it2thanks,, will look some more04:16
JsonTgaah.. f*k it, ill do it myself...04:16
Mezdr`venom, you going to try and impress her with Xgl then ?04:16
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dr`venomnot any more04:16
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dr`venomI got dumped the last time I did that04:17
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dr`venommost girls think that I am quite an attractive guy that is borring as hell.04:17
rukuarticHey there, are there any nice programs out there similar to iTunes that will help organize my music library? I've looked around in apt and I can't find much...04:17
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hondjeNever, ever, ever talk to girls about 1) computers, 2) math04:17
Thirstehhondje: word.04:17
dr`venomI love math, computers, and physics04:17
Xenguyhondje: philosophy, psychism, and voodoo -- try it, it works :P04:18
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dr`venomnerds will inherit the world04:18
hondjeMy gf has no idea I actually run a physics chan on this network, for example .... and she never will muwahaha04:18
sproingiehondje: but ... but ... that guy on numbers talks about math and he gets all the chicks04:18
dr`venomoh man, that is funny04:18
bpfickfair itunes mimic   Amarok04:18
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hondjesproingie: hehe04:18
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dr`venomman, that had me rolling on the ground04:18
DreamingRomdr'venom ok I understand your former girlfriends lol04:19
DreamingRommy dog just farted rrr04:19
sproingieDreamingRom: thanks for sharing04:19
v3l0ctrukuartic, rhythmbox, quodlibet, exaile, banshee.  Those are just a few04:19
dr`venomI know one fine girl that loves math, but she is married to a rich amigo04:19
rukuarticbpfick: Yeah but thats a KDE thing... looking for more of a manager instead of a player.04:19
DreamingRomyou're welcome sproingie04:19
dr`venomshould I do the software updates first, or install the nvidia driver?04:19
hondjeI dated a math girl once. Bad idea04:19
K1765still cant find a burner that works..............www sux04:19
hondjebut, that's OT so I'll stfu :)04:19
tiredbones_I just lost power, very windy here. Did anyone look at the paste I did?04:20
XenguyK1765: *definitely* k3b04:20
K1765is k3b linux or windows.........04:20
XenguyK1765: install linux quick - you need to burn those DVDs!04:20
v3l0ctlinuxboy, it's a kde app04:20
dr`venomworks great too04:20
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v3l0ctbrasero is very good also04:20
starsky-hutchy!k3b > Xenguy04:20
K1765well im talking about a burner for windows.................04:20
dr`venomah nero 6.404:21
starsky-hutchy!k3b > K176504:21
Xenguystarsky-hutchy: gee thanks =)04:21
bpfickeasyCD creator Roxio04:21
DreamingRomwhat's your release dr`venom04:21
josh_therefore 3b > 176504:21
dr`venommy release is the 6.4 or 6.5.904:21
dr`venomone of those two04:21
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dr`venomI dont like 704:22
dr`venomit is slow04:22
brueniggnu2it2, here is that plugin wrapper the 64 bit people were saying worked with flash 9, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27707704:22
v3l0cti have no clue, don't run windows04:22
XenguyK1765: no man, you *have* to install linux now - or else you are in the *wrong* channel :-)04:22
dr`venomif you use linux, I recomend k3b04:22
DreamingRomubuntu release dr`venom ?04:22
bruenigK1765, do you bittorrent?04:22
dr`venomI think it is fast and I have not gotten one error04:22
dr`venomI have the latest one04:23
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dr`venomlet me double check though04:23
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dr`venom6.06 LTS04:23
dr`venomI am downloading the updates right now and I will install nvidia. THen, I have to start trouble shooting the resolution issue04:24
DreamingRominstall the drivers from synaptic, switching nv to nvidia in xorg.conf and restart gdm  is not enough dr`venom04:24
v3l0ctI'm running 6.10 RC04:24
steeltoes1234does anyone know how to install Wine?04:24
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: should be in repos04:24
v3l0ctsteeltoes1234, it's in the repos04:24
dr`venomthat is exactly what I did04:24
dr`venomlast time and still no 1440x900 resolution04:24
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: sudo apt-get install wine04:24
steeltoes1234oh ya?04:25
dr`venomI even installed it manually04:25
K1765I need to make the cd bootable right?04:25
bruenigsteeltoes1234, "sudo apt-get install wine", after it install run winecfg, and then from there just do "wine "path/to/whatever.exe" to use win04:25
K1765That might have been the problem04:25
rukuarticbruenig: winecfg is run automatically, don't worry. Its a one time thing04:25
sureshothey all does wine do directx9c04:25
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kitchedr`venom: the resolution problem probably has to do with xorg autodetection you might have to add the resolution to your xorg.conf04:25
dr`venomI did04:26
K1765Would having the cd not bootable be the problem?04:26
dr`venomand nothing04:26
bruenigrukuartic, is it? It didn't work for me until I winecfg. ANd I know it was a one time thing, but he having not run it would have to do it for his one time04:26
dr`venomI'm going to try again04:26
kitchedr`venom: and restarted gdm and X?04:26
dr`venomhopefully that will work04:26
DreamingRomwhen i install it manually on my system, it doesn't work :(04:26
dr`venomI restarted X04:26
Mad3Max3sethk, when I type the aplay -l ... I only get up Analog.. no digital.. is it that digital istn't enabled and thats why alsa can't find my spdif?04:26
dr`venomI restarted my computer04:26
K1765Would having the cd not bootable cause linux to not workkkkk?04:26
dr`venomso that should have done both04:26
rukuarticbruenig: Were you using an older version of wine?04:26
bruenigK1765, you need to burn the iso as an image, not bootable doesn't really make sense in terms of burning software. Did you check a box that said not bootable or what?04:26
dr`venomI know its not my video card or my monitor because they work perfectly on suse04:27
bruenigrukuartic, yeah, has it changed?04:27
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kitchedr`venom: see I don't even mess with the window managers resolution thing since usually they onyl show like five resolutions04:27
Mad3Max3sethk, I get .. card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , device 0: ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog] 04:27
K1765Does it have to be bootable or not bootable?04:27
rukuarticbruenig: Hmm I seem to remember it when I installed wine, that was some time ago.04:27
DreamingRomyou have to write your resolution in the xorg.conf i think04:27
dr`venomI did04:27
dr`venomand the resolution was not offored04:27
bruenigK1765, by burning it as an image, it will be bootable. You cannot burn it as an image, assuming the image is not corrupted and have it not be bootable.04:27
dr`venommaybe it will do it this time04:27
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sureshothey all does wine do directx9c04:28
bruenigdr`venom, have you tried doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then just selecting defaults until you get to resolution and then making your changes that way?04:28
dr`venombruenig, nope, I will give that a try next04:28
kitchesueshot: wine doesn't do directx9c last time I checked and that was last week04:28
steeltoes1234ok...   package wine is not available, but is referred to as a different package.  this may mean the package is missing, or obsoleted, or is only avaiable from another source E: package wine  has no installation candidate04:29
dr`venomI have to reinstall nvidia drivers first. I reinstalled ubuntu04:29
steeltoes1234ok so what does that mean???04:29
fatsheepwhat's a good native CPU benchmark program?04:29
sureshotkitche thanks if it did it would answer a lot of problems thanks again04:29
v3l0ctK1765, this is what you need.  it's a powertoy that will burn an .iso properly in windows  http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm04:29
jim__how interesting no wine in apt currently for edgy04:29
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steeltoes1234im running dapper04:29
K1765would people stop sending me that, the link takes 10 minutes to load, and isorecorder doesnt work, just gives me error here error there04:30
kitchesureshot: think wine needs a patch to use directx anyways04:30
starsky-hutchyjim__, probably still testing it ?04:30
tnnccan someone tell me where the sutoinstall script is for automatix04:30
steeltoes1234how can i install wine??????04:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:30
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jim__K1765, are you in linux now or windoze?04:30
v3l0cthow am i supposed to know that's been sent to you before? magic?04:30
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K1765i just burned it, seeing if linux will work now04:31
K1765If not i give up04:31
v3l0cttnnc, sutoinstall?04:31
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K1765ill be back04:31
unforgivinghow i reinstall the java plugin in the firefox?04:31
sureshoti have ced and it does not run any of my 9c files :_04:32
dr`venomshould I install both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev?04:32
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bpfickunforgiving do you use easyubuntu?04:32
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v3l0ctunforgiving, open synaptic, find the file and right click on it, it gives you an option to reinstall04:32
unforgivingbpfick: yes04:33
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Lubixhey ubuntu!04:33
ThirstehHi Lubix04:33
MezLubix, hello04:33
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Lubixhow goes it this evening?04:34
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AmaranthXenguy: Having fun with ubotu?04:34
tnnccan someone tell me where to find the autoinstall script for automatix thanks04:34
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Lubixwhats ubotu?04:34
mrkrisanyone happen to remember the ubuntu package/tutorial that explained how to get all the non-free stuff working, eg: flash, wmv, etc ?04:34
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kitchea bot Lubix04:34
rukuartictnnc: I don't know the link off hand, and I"m not being smart, but its the first link off of google04:34
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Amaranth!automatic > tnnc04:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:34
v3l0cttnnc, www.getautomatix.com04:34
Amaranth!restricted > mrkris04:34
dr`venomquestion guys, when I am installing the linux-restricted-modules, should I keep the 386 that are already installed or get the 68604:34
Mez!bot > Lubix04:34
Amaranth!automatix > tnnc04:35
ripperif the xserver gives the message sync out of range, is there anyway i can simply get it back to defaults.04:35
mrkristhanks ;D04:35
Thirstehdr`venom: Do you have a Pentium 4 or equal?04:35
dr`venomI have a pentium 4 3.2 a 478 socket04:35
Lubixhey has anyone used monodevlope to open a c#project from vs2003?04:35
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dr`venomhyper threading04:35
rukuarticdr`venom: try uname -a04:36
Thirstehdr`venom: Go with the linux-686 kernel which should auto-fetch linux-restricted-modules-68604:36
Thirstehdr`venom: It's no use if you're not running a 686 kernel, tho04:36
landoim fairly new to ubuntu and i was wondering when edgy eft does get release will it just automagically upgrade?04:36
v3l0ctlando, no04:36
Lubixshould be u get get it now04:36
dr`venomso, it does not matter?04:36
jim__lnado no04:36
landoor will i have to update my repo's04:36
dr`venomwhich one I use?04:36
Thirstehdr`venom: uname -a will show you what you're currently running, like rukuartic said.04:36
jim__lando: have to update your sources.list04:37
jim__then apt-get dist-upgrade04:37
steeltoes1234what exactly is a repository?04:37
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Lubixso no one has used monodevelop?04:37
rukuarticIs there any way I can tell ACPI how long it takes my battery to drain/charge so it can know when I mouseover?04:37
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Thirstehdr`venom: As a rule of thumb, if you have the option between 386 and 686, take the 686. They are simply architectures and 386 dates back to early Pentium 3, if I'm not mistaken.04:37
Thirstehdr`venom: Compatability, you know :)04:37
capgadget383 is P1 P204:38
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jim__steeltoes1234: repository is where all the packages for software is04:38
dr`venomit says mariano-desktop 2.6.15-27-386 #1 Preempt sat sept 16 UTC 2006 i68604:38
v3l0ctdr`venom, actually use a smp kernel, since Hyperthreading supports it04:38
capgadgetOops nope04:38
Thirstehcapgadget: Yes, thank you, I thought it was earlier than that, too04:38
hondjeP1 was a nice name for 586 ... 5 so pentium04:38
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Thirstehdr`venom: Oh yes, what v3l0ct said, you'll want the 686-SMP04:38
ubuntumahhow can i install wlassistant??04:38
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dr`venomok let me look for this bad boy04:38
ubotuwlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 139 kB, installed size 580 kB04:38
Lubixso i just upgraded to edgy is cool04:39
v3l0ctubuntumah, it's in the repos04:39
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steeltoes1234jim_: packages on my hdd or on the net?04:39
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landowould it be best to do a clean install of edgy or will upgrading do just fine ? and thanks for the help guys. if it werent for this room i would of never made the leap into linux as gracefully04:39
Mez!adept > ubuntumah04:39
jim__steeltoes1234: on the net04:39
capgadgetforgetting pentiums as fast as I can on amd64 now04:39
Mez!synaptic > ubuntumah04:39
K1765Now it is saying "Starting Caldera DR-DOS" and goes to a command prompt-ish thing04:39
v3l0ctlando, clean install is always best04:39
steeltoes1234ok cool   thanks04:39
black_13is there a psuedo package that install gcc and other dev tools04:39
ubuntumahyes i know but i cant use make command04:39
Lubixlando, i just upgraded so far so good04:39
dr`venomI dont see any 686 smp on the restricted modules04:39
dr`venomI just see 68604:39
steeltoes1234jim_: sorry for the noob questions but i am very much a noob to linux04:40
capgadgetsmp is just for the kernel04:40
v3l0ctblack_13, yes.  select build-essentials04:40
ianmacgregorblack_13: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:40
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jim__steeltoes1234: no probs, I have been a noob for the last 3 years04:40
landoah i see. thanks for the all the help. much obliged04:40
K1765Now it is saying "Starting Caldera DR-DOS" and goes to a command prompt-ish thing04:40
ianmacgregorjim__: lol04:40
steeltoes1234jim_: LOL04:40
atom_something happened to my audio... i was playing music and rebooted due to updates and now no audio from music or video... what can cause this?04:40
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steeltoes1234ok so what is this whole edgy thing ive been hearing about?04:41
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capgadgetCaldera DR-DOS  M$ had topay big money for killing it.04:41
Mez!edgy > steeltoes123404:41
jim__steeltoes1234: the next release of ubuntu04:41
K1765Now it is saying "Starting Caldera DR-DOS" and goes to a command prompt-ish thing04:41
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K1765whats this mean?? zz04:41
BrentNewhallHi, all.  Anyone here who can help me with a network problem installing Dapper on a MacBook?04:41
steeltoes1234jim_: is it an official release?04:41
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jim__steeltoes1234: every 6 months officially" they release a new verion with a new name04:41
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wasabi_i'm trying to install Bundle::CPAN in cpan and i keep getting this message about LWP not available04:41
ubuntumahi cant use synabtic because i cant connect to my wireless net04:42
rukuarticBrentNewhall: Is it a problem ding a network install, or is it networking problems during install?04:42
steeltoes1234jim_: would it be advisable to switch to edgy then???04:42
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wasabi_i'm trying to install Bundle::CPAN in cpan and i keep getting this message about LWP not available04:42
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K1765Could someone answer plz :)04:42
v3l0ctsteeltoes1234, edgy is still a release candidate,  should be fully released next week04:42
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jim__steeltoes1234: after the 26th when it becomes the official release, right now its technically the development release04:43
ianmacgregorK1765: If on one knows the answer, how should we respond?04:43
rukuarticubuntumah: Oh here, type "iwconfig" in the terminal, see if it recognizes your wireless device04:43
BrentNewhallrukuartic: Well, I can boot off the LiveCD, then set up a temporary local install, but when I chroot to the local install to install lilo, I can't reach the 'net.04:43
v3l0ctK1765, what are you trying to install04:43
steeltoes1234jim_: and would i have to reinstall ubuntu clean or can i just get an update?04:43
rukuarticBrentNewhall: Its a wireless thing? Try opening up a terminal and typing "iwconfig"04:43
BrentNewhallI can access the 'net from the LiveCD, but not from Ubuntu.04:43
Lubixdoes no one uses monodev?04:43
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:43
steeltoes1234jim_: oh ok in that case ill wait till next week then04:43
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:43
dr`venomhey guys, i'm a bit lost there are a few 686 linux restricted modules : 2.6.15-25, 26, and 2704:44
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K1765I burned ubuntu, and ran it on the cd, and its saying "Starting Caldera DR-Dos"04:44
dr`venomwhich one should I get04:44
jim__steeltoes1234: just update, you would ecit your sources and then do apt-get dist-upgrade04:44
BrentNewhallrukuartic: I've also plugged directly into the router, and I actually see an IP address on eth0 then.04:44
dr`venomI dont see the smp one04:44
jim__steeltoes1234: it then magically becomes edgy04:44
BrentNewhallBut still no network connectivity, even after an "ifconfig eth0 down" and "eth0 up"04:44
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rukuarticBrentNewhall: Often times routers have internal websites (eg: for configuration) can you access that?04:45
BrentNewhallAhh, good question.04:45
K1765834 people and no1 knows :/04:45
Lubixget can someone give me a good just general linux chat channel to use04:45
ianmacgregorLubix: #linux04:45
dr`venomk1765 everyone is trying04:45
rukuarticK1765: Give us a second... Caldera Dr-DOS is not something any of us have heard of04:45
ianmacgregorrukuartic: True04:46
ripperi've heard of it04:46
BrentNewhallrukuartic: I actually can't answer that question at the moment; this is my only usable computer at the moment, and it's the one I'm trying to instal Ubuntu on.04:46
jim__epp caldera Dr-Dos talk about old school04:46
ripperjust dont know much about it.04:46
v3l0ctcaldera has been dead for years now04:46
ripperyeah no shit.04:46
rippersorry bout the language04:46
K1765lol ripper04:46
Lubixver goot04:46
dr`venomI'm going to install all 68604:46
dr`venomit should be fine04:46
BoogieWoogieManBOOOGIE WOOOGIE Amaranth !!!! this is SO fun!!!!04:46
Lubixnow whats a good firewall for me here on ubuntu?04:46
jim__Dr-DOS become either open dos or free dos04:46
BrentNewhallrukuartic: Can you give me a few diagnostics steps to run?  Would greatly appreciate it.04:47
ripperLubix iptables.04:47
K1765I ran the cd i burned ubuntu on and that started up so04:47
ripperif you cant figure that out, @ Lubix use firestarter04:47
ianmacgregorLubix: You already have a firewall (iptables), but Irecommend Firestarter as the gui firewall setup app04:47
v3l0ctk1765, i dunno what you burned but that's not it04:47
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Lubixfiaif any good?04:47
rukuarticBrentNewhall: Hurr... do you use DHCP? If you do you could try "sudo dhclient"04:47
steeltoes1234jim_: ok i think that i have now installed wine, how do i know if it is installed or how do i open it.   i dont see it in my menus04:47
K1765lol, it was ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso04:48
ripperi dont use a firewall on my ubuntu box, its all handled by a box running obsd's packetfilter04:48
K1765right from site, so04:48
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: Its not an actual program, you run your EXE's like this: "wine <program name>"04:48
BrentNewhallrukuartic: Yep, I use DHCP.  I'll give that a try.04:48
jim__steeltoes1234: did you install winecfg as well?04:48
rukuarticjim__: preinstalled04:48
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ripperdhcp is always giving me problems :| thats why i went to static LAN ips04:48
steeltoes1234jim_: i dont think so.    what is winecfg?04:48
v3l0ctripper: my router has a firewall so I use that :)04:48
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rukuarticripper: Yeah... well I use DHCP for my desktop/laptop and static for my server04:49
ripperv3l0ct heh im sure its not nearly as robust as PF04:49
jim__steeltoes1234: type winecfg04:49
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ripperv3l0ct what kind of router (im sure its no cisco :) )04:49
v3l0ctripper true but good enough04:49
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v3l0ctripper netgear04:49
rippereww @ netgear04:49
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ripperthats nasty04:49
v3l0ct3 years and still running,04:49
ripperlinksys ftw!04:49
v3l0ctthat's your opinion04:49
ripperwell i just dont like netgears lack of configurability at all.04:50
v3l0cti can configure mine plenty :)04:50
K1765well, this is fairly gay, dunno how caldera dr-dos started up from the linux cd... :S04:50
steeltoes1234jim_: ok i just ran that04:50
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Lubixhey i got a like total sacrilige question....i downloaded a copy of xp that was from my gf's laptop, i have a licensed copy but its at home, the install totally sucks it cant connect to the net or nothing is it b/c it was designed for her hardware?04:50
steeltoes1234jim_: and i got a window that opened up04:50
Lubixi only need it cuz i do vs2003 for a class04:51
ripperheh im sure you cant configure the SPI firewall thats embedded in it.....i havent seen one that allows it yet @ netgear04:51
rukuarticK1765: Ur, I hate to tell you this, but I think it was installed before hand.04:51
jim__steeltoes1234: get through that, then find yourself a windoze executable04:51
v3l0ctripper i can on mine04:51
ripperwhat model?04:51
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: if you go into "/home/usrname/.wine/drive_c/" and look around, there are a few like notepad04:51
K1765caldera dr-dos is on every pc o.004:51
jim__steeltoes1234: then from console wine <whatevertheheckitis.exe>04:51
steeltoes1234jim_: with wine, will i able to access my other HDD (windows xp) from ubuntu>04:51
rukuarticK1765: because I'm pretty sure its not on ANY of my pc's04:51
agentLubix: probably.... just install ubuntu... no need to taint your computer with that x...p... creature :P04:52
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v3l0ctripper we'll just agree to disagree :)04:52
K1765lol its on there...04:52
Lubixagent: i need visual studio 03 for school04:52
ripperv3l0ct the newer ones seem to lack alot :)04:52
jim__steeltoes1234: yes and no, question is a little more complex than that04:52
capgadgetProbably booted dr-dos because it can't boot the iso.  You have to set the bios to boot from the cd04:52
rukuarticK1765: Keep in mind you are talking to a CS major who works on computers frequently... its not on every computer.04:52
ripperv3l0ct there is some netgear equip i will use...like their switches.04:52
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agentv3l0ct: i say you arm wrestle for it04:52
v3l0ctripper like I said mine is almost 3 years old and i've hear the newer ones aren't that good04:52
ripperi just like linksys, and building my own equipment.04:52
jim__steeltoes1234: wine creates a "fake" windows to operate from04:53
Bensr20detHow do i check/change my color depth?04:53
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Lubixdo you think that visual studio would run in wine?04:53
K1765ill try to see if its set to boot cd first :S04:53
__mikemscrew armwrestling, lets really wrestle04:53
ripperv3l0ct you would figure they would get better with time, not worse.04:53
v3l0ctagent lol, nah. it's all about choice04:53
Lubixi dunno jack about wine04:53
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agentLubix: but seriously... thats probably your problem... windows usually is computer specific04:53
Syco54645anyone here successfully get flash player 9 working that can give me a hand?04:53
rukuarticLubix: I think they have an app compatability thing on their site... winehq.org04:53
ripperv3l0ct but look at windows :) vista is a repeat of ME w/ better gfx if you ask me, its a POS04:53
v3l0ctripper yeah, i would think so.04:53
steeltoes1234jim_: but would i be able to run programs that are installed in my windows HDD through wine>04:53
v3l0ctripper i haven't run windows in over a year.  i have no clue about it04:54
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Lubixi would love to drop xp all together its a hassle04:54
jim__steeltoes1234: a solid maybe, depends on how intertied it is in windows04:54
ripperi have one windows box, it's not allowed on the LAN04:54
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capgadgetStuff the "runs" on wine is on http://appdb.winehq.org/04:54
Bensr20detHow do I check/change the color depth of my screen in edgy??04:54
jim__steeltoes1234: you may have to use wine to install it into linux04:54
rukuarticripper: Maybe for the power user, but here's the deal. If everyone ran computers as powerful as linux, imagine what would happen when the ignorant ones installed spyware and stuff on them, its like taking a knife away from a madman and giving him a shotgun and handgrenade stash04:54
ScreaminIkewhat package do i need to install my nvidia drivers? my x won't work with this new card...04:54
Lubixso you fellas should be proud i turned my co-worker onto ubuntu today04:54
agentLubix: another idea: run a windows emulator on ubuntu04:54
SkramXim using the 6 boot cd.. and after it uncompresses the kernel my monitor says it has gone out of range and shuts down04:54
SkramXi have tried safe graphics mode04:54
steeltoes1234well most important is can i run World of Warcraft through wine?????04:54
rukuarticLubix: Whoo! :304:54
Lubixagent: where might i get one?04:55
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: Thats more of a cedega thing04:55
jim__steeltoes1234: yes04:55
ripperrukuartic hmm i like the idea of giving a madman a shotgun & grenade stash.04:55
ScreaminIkesteeltoes1234 yea... cedega04:55
zorba64ScreaminIke, nvidia-glx04:55
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jim__steeltoes1234: not cedega gargabe04:55
ScreaminIkezorba64, i've installed that, and x still crashes. i'm using irssi as root right now...04:55
steeltoes1234ok good.    that is importaint!    VERY importaint!!  LOL04:55
ScreaminIkein terminal04:55
steeltoes1234now i just gotta figure out how04:55
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: People around here don't like cedega because you have to pay for it... apparently its really good though.04:55
ripperim seeing linux go more mainstream everyday due to ubuntu04:55
jim__steeltoes1234: go to www.winehq.com there are a few tweaks you have to make to get it working correctly in wine04:56
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ripperi think canonical is up to something here04:56
agentLubix: there is qemu (open source) and vmware (not open source) that i know of... i have used both before with success04:56
steeltoes1234what is cedega?04:56
rippercedega is a wineX04:56
rukuarticsteeltoes1234: wine + better support for 3d stuff.04:56
ScreaminIkesteeltoes1234 google for it04:56
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: cedega is pretty crappy...04:56
jim__steeltoes1234: a pay-as-you-go ripoff of wine04:56
steeltoes1234woh.   you lost me here.    what is wineX04:56
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ubuntumahhow can i use web shared key in wireless network??04:56
Mark1412hi, who knows of a rar file opener04:56
ripperunrar @ Marconius__04:56
black_13isnt there win32 clone out now04:56
agentsteeltoes1234: wine thats not free as in freedom ;)04:56
ripperunrar @ Mark141204:57
Syco54645steeltoes1234: i have better luck with bland old wine than with cedega04:57
ScreaminIkeoh, anyone here able to help me out with this nvidia thing?04:57
kitchejiim__: you do know you don't have to pay to get cedega you know that right04:57
Mark1412ripper: Where can i get htat/04:57
dr`venomwhat nvidia thing?04:57
ripperMark just do sudo apt-get install unrar04:57
Mark1412oh kay04:57
kitchejim__: since it is open source just the copyrighted stuff you can't get04:57
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ScreaminIkewhat do i need to install to use my nvidia card?04:57
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rukuarticScreaminIke: Haha... nobody likes dealing with graphics drivers issues, don't take it personally if responses come lsow04:57
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ubuntumahhow can i use web shared key in wireless network??04:57
Lubixagent: im downloading qemu now04:57
ripperMark1412 i dont see why ubuntu wouldnt handle .rar by default though04:57
agent!nvidia > ScreaminIke04:57
v3l0ctScreaminIke, I use ATI so i dunno04:58
enyawixbugs bugs bugs04:58
ScreaminIkerukuartic, i usually ignore drivers questions... i don't know them...04:58
rukuarticripper: Propriatory?04:58
agent*squash* *squash*04:58
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Mark1412ripper: its not supported04:58
K1765k i give up :/04:58
Syco54645ScreaminIke: what do you mean?  the linux drivers? or do you want tv out04:58
enyawixwhy have support for a file system and not support it in the kernel?04:58
ripperi dont have troubles with .rar04:58
rukuarticScreaminIke: While you're waiting you could check the forums... There might be something there.04:58
ScreaminIkethat's all fine and dandy, agent, but i'm in command line. can't use the interweb...04:58
agentLubix: from what i remember, 98 works  best on qemu04:58
rukuarticK1765: How old is your computer?04:58
ripperand didnt have to install unrar either.04:58
Mark1412how do you extract .rar filese then04:58
Syco54645ScreaminIke: elinks04:58
K1765year old..04:58
agentScreaminIke: did not know that04:58
ripperright click on them :) and click extract04:58
ripperor in the terminal type unrar blah.rar04:59
ubuntumahhow can i use web shared key in wireless network??04:59
steeltoes1234i dont understand how wine works04:59
agentScreaminIke: lynx, links or elinks (im sure there are others) :P04:59
ScreaminIke's ok. i just really want to be able to, you know... use my computer04:59
steeltoes1234oh well04:59
Syco54645ScreaminIke: to make it even easier get gpm04:59
Mark1412my archive manager says it doesnt support04:59
enyawixhod to build firestarter fron source :(04:59
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ScreaminIkesudo apt-get install gpm ?04:59
Syco54645ScreaminIke: yes04:59
Syco54645ScreaminIke: then do a sudo apt-get install gpm04:59
ScreaminIkecan i use that in command line?04:59
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rukuarticK1765: I'm inclined to question that, since DR-DOS was last updated in the 90's05:00
Bensr20detHow do I check/change the color depth of my screen??05:00
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Mark1412ok ill try unrar05:00
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Mark1412thanks rippe05:00
Syco54645ScreaminIke: what exactly are you trying to do with the card?  di dyou install the drivers and have x give errors?05:00
Lubixagent: how does qemu work05:00
kitcheBensr20det: in your xorg.conf is how i do it05:00
rukuarticK1765: Sorry wrong there05:00
Syco54645ScreaminIke: yes.  elinks supports tabs05:00
jim__yeesh talk about client blow up05:00
Dr_willisFreedos finially hit version 1.005:00
steeltoes1234how do i use wine????05:00
ScreaminIkei haven't installed the drivers yet.05:00
K1765lol seeing how its on every pc with windows u shouldnt05:00
Dr_willissteeltoes1234,  wine whatever.exe05:00
ScreaminIkei don't know how.05:00
Syco54645ScreaminIke: then why can you not get into x?05:00
agent!qemu > Lubix05:00
kitchesteeltoes1234: open up a console it's a console app sorta05:00
Xenguy_steeltoes1234: you needn't wine alot ;-)05:00
Bensr20detkitche: how do i edit that file?05:00
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ScreaminIkeno x. it just gives me B$...05:01
agentLubix: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/05:01
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ScreaminIkeif i had a gui, it'd be so much easier to find these crash logs05:01
rukuarticK1765: No you're wrong there. DR-DOS is something you purchase and install on your computer. Its 3rd party software. MS-DOS is what you're thinking of.05:01
Syco54645ScreaminIke: that doesnt sound right05:01
kitcheBensr20det: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can also use nano if you don't like vim05:01
Syco54645ScreaminIke: the logs are in /var/logs or should be05:01
jim__kitche: to answer your question before my client went haywire. tried cedega twice and liked it neaither time05:01
agentomg another usplash theme... thats like the 4th theme update today ;)05:01
ScreaminIkei'll brb.05:01
Xenguy_K1765: you definitely want FreeDOS05:01
Syco54645ScreaminIke: did you crash then this happened?05:01
Alakazamz0ranyone got webhosting experience?05:01
ScreaminIkehold responsces, plz05:01
rukuarticXenguy_: I don't think he wants either o_o;05:01
Dr_willisFreedos even comes on a live cd. :)05:02
kitchejim__: it's more for games then anything but wine is catching up to it05:02
Xenguy_rukuartic: mwuha05:02
steeltoes1234ok but whatever i want to open up in wine i need to have in my /home directory?05:02
Dr_willisdosbox is great for playing the old dos games.05:02
rukuarticXenguy_: If his comp's a year old, Iunno. Maybe dr-dos messed up his boot.05:02
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Xenguy_rukuartic: it's always possible05:02
Dr_willissteeltoes1234,  depends.. ya can put the .exe's wheever you want..05:02
Lubixagent: i know ima probably sound stupid here but do i have to install xp or what goes on here?05:02
K1765well if its not on windows, then its in the .iso, because thats the only thing it could be running05:02
jim__steeltoes1234: you just need to know what directory its in05:02
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rukuarticOh yeah, does anyone have tips on how to get GRUB back if you install Ubuntu, then Windows, but still want GRUB?05:03
kitchesteeltoes1234: well after you isntall the app it will be in /home/<user>/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files most likely05:03
Dr_willisLubix,  huh? what xp are you refering to?05:03
kitcherukuartic: reinstall grub05:03
steeltoes1234ok now im really confused05:03
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jim__steeltoes1234: wine /home/jim/downloads/winejunk/grabit.exe works as well05:03
Dr_willissteeltoes1234,  wine /path/to/whever/you/keep/your/stuff.exe05:03
agentLubix: you can install almost any x32 os... any linux and windows from 95 until xp... but i recommend 98 as its the fastest and its compatible with your program05:03
kitcheXenguy_: deltree05:03
rukuarticCan anyone comfirm that DrDOS is in the Ubuntu LiveCD?05:03
Xenguy_kitche: good handlin' :-)05:03
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agentLubix: think of is as a "computer inside your computer" :)05:04
rukuarticK1765: Where'd you get the install cd?05:04
Dr_willisrukuartic,  its not on there as far as ive seen.05:04
Lubixagent: im working on it ill let u know if get it up05:04
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jim__go to the downloads section at ubuntu.com when your browsing the d/ls you'll find a payload05:04
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: with wine it makes a virtual c drive that you specify the location for.  usually ~/.wine/drive_c/05:04
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: that is where it will install all apps to.  so to run them go to like  wine "~/.wine/drive_c/program files/foobar2000/foobar.exe"05:05
steeltoes1234ok.   now can i access my other hdd now from unbutu?05:05
Syco54645steeltoes1234: ir what ever05:05
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Syco54645or rather05:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:05
jim__steeltoes1234: maybe05:05
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agentLubix: i have to get going.... refer to that howto and qemu website (website has good documentation)... it works because i used it as far back as 2 years ago :)05:05
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ScreamingIkeok. so i installed nvidia-glx... but x still crashes05:06
jim__steeltoes1234: you may have to mount it, you may not05:06
Syco54645ScreamingIke: what did you figure out?05:06
ScreamingIkedo i need a reboot to reload the kernel?05:06
steeltoes1234like if i go in the menue, places/ computer   i can see both my HDDs and al partitions on my other but cannot access them since it is window05:06
jim__ScreamingIke yes05:06
ScreamingIkehrm. thx. brb05:06
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Syco54645ScreamingIke: yes05:06
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enyawixScreamingIke chroot if it breaks your install05:07
Lubixagent: alirght thanks for the heads up on that app tho05:07
agentLubix: your welcome05:07
enyawixwhere do i supmit fixes?05:07
Syco54645what do i need to have installed to have firefox play flash.  i am just trying to get this thing to work with the regular old ubuntu supported flash05:07
jim__steeltoes1234: sounds like ntfs, have to get the libs for that installed05:07
rukuarticK1765: There ya go, found a topic on your problem, and it is related to DR-DOS05:07
rukuarticK1765: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268870&highlight=dr-dos05:08
steeltoes1234jim_ my C: drive is fat3205:08
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jim__then you should be able to access it and get to everything on it05:08
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steeltoes1234jim_: D: and  E: is ntfs05:08
c|intguess what guys, guess what I"m going try and do05:09
rukuarticK1765: Did you tell Nero to burn it as a bootable CD?05:09
K1765i just all to just load cd-rom, and it still loads that..05:09
jim__steeltoes1234: then you should be able to access it and get to everything on it05:09
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K1765yes its a bootable cd, i used cd burner xp05:09
K1765I made sure it was :S05:09
c|inthey steeltoes1234, guess what I"m going try and do05:09
steeltoes1234jim_: hmmmm so did i install wine correctly then05:09
rukuarticK1765: You don't need that05:09
steeltoes1234c|int: what?05:09
rukuarticK1765: Just do an ordinary burn to CD05:10
K1765so it will be non-bootable?05:10
jim__steeltoes1234: wine has nothing to do with being able to "read" windows drives, its a windows emulator05:10
atom_anyone get this error while trying to install the new nvidia driver? "You appear to be runing an X server; please exit X before installing"05:10
rukuarticK1765: No... I think the burning software you're using does something funny to it05:10
SkramXi have the 6 LiveCD.. how do i do an install without the GUI-installer?05:10
steeltoes1234jim_: then what can i do to read my C: drive?05:10
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atom_mount it if its fat3205:11
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atom_if its ntfs ur buggered05:11
rukuarticK1765: It'll still be bootable, but you don't want to check the "make bootable" flag05:11
dr`venomso, I finally got ubuntu reinstalled and I also reinstalled the nvidia driver05:11
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c|intabout to install paragon, hard disk manager, on ubuntu :)05:11
black_13what package gives me the x11 headers05:11
mineraleDoes anyone know a program that lets one try regexes? I can't find a program that can understand some of the more advanced operators such as '\<'05:11
pressingonalwayshello... i'm having extreme clock drifting in VM... I've enabled time syncronization and it isn't helping... any ideas anyone?05:11
atom_venom did u get any error?05:11
jim__atom_: you have to go command line wihtout x to install the drivers05:11
dr`venomhowever, I did not see an nvidia splash and I still dont get the resolution option of 1440x90005:11
kitcheblack_13: the xorg-dev packages05:11
dr`venomi'm really lost now05:11
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steeltoes1234atom: i currently boot between the 2 drives by selecting it through the Bios.   if i mount my C drive will it cause problems trying to boot that into windows?05:12
atom_how so jim__?05:12
kitchedr`venom: can you pastebin your xorg.conf05:12
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dr`venomgive me a sec05:12
K1765forget this. im going to bed... no point in wasting another disc05:12
jim__atom_: ctrl alt f1 will get you to tty, then /proc/init.d/gdm stop to kill X05:13
rukuarticatom_: ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back05:13
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jim__not if you kill gdm05:13
dr`venomI have to e-mail it to my self so that I can then paste it here05:13
rukuarticNo problem K1765 you're welcome for all my help. </sarcasm>05:13
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Brydenn33anyone wanna help me get wine 0.9.9 installed? having troubles05:14
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kitchedr`venom you paste in a pastebin05:14
steeltoes1234guys if i try to mount my c drive so i can read it, will i have problems booting off that drive next time i want to boot into windows?05:14
peepsare you guys talking about problems with display after an edgy dist-upgrade05:14
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Mir1hey, i'd like to know, how to use "inpud methods" in some progs, eg Firefox05:14
rukuarticBrydenn33: Zo. Tell me about your problems.05:14
kitche!pastebin > dr`venom05:14
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dr`venomI'm using a different computer to chat in here05:14
jim__steeltoes1234: nope05:14
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padanok i give up, what flippin package are the termcap libs in for ubuntu?05:14
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Brydenn33rukuartic: well i'm having trouble making the file05:14
jim__steeltoes1234: mouning it just tells linux its there to read from05:14
dr`venomgot it05:15
rukuarticpadan: Not sure, try "apt-cache search termcap"05:15
Brydenn33rukuartic: it starts doing its thing then i get errors05:15
padanevery other distribution decides to name this like libtermcap or termcap05:15
Eroickhey, if I am running in low memory mode, will I be having issues?05:15
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padanruk, nothing05:15
Brydenn33want me to put it in pastebin for you to see?05:15
steeltoes1234i cant mount it05:15
Syco54645steeltoes1234: anything is possible, but i would say no05:15
rukuarticBrydenn33: There any reason you aren't using the one in the repositories?05:15
Syco54645steeltoes1234: why can you not mount it?  what is the error05:15
Mir1can i use "inpud methods" in Firefox??05:15
Dr_willisyea. edgy at least mounts the ntfs drivs where users can read the, :P05:15
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Brydenn33rukuartic: yes, cuz the wine archive says 0.9.9 can run Exact Audio Copy. And i really want that app on linux05:16
peepsis there a more automatic method to setup xorg than using dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?05:16
rukuarticBrydenn33: Aha. What errors are you running into?05:16
Eroicklike, is 64mb of ram too little for Ubuntu with Fluxbox?05:16
Brydenn33plus from what i've read it's a great improvment05:16
Brydenn33rukuartic: let me show you via pastebin. one sec05:16
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dr`venomok, its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27626/05:16
Dr_willisEroick,  should work.05:16
EroickDr_willis: smoothly?05:16
Syco54645steeltoes1234: what is the error when you try to mount it05:17
jim__Eroik: I have had it use as little as 30 meg using fluxbox05:17
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Dr_willisEroick,  you aint allowed to change the question once we answer.. :)   with a minimal window manger it should be useable.05:17
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dr`venomI dont even get all of those 7 resolutions05:17
EroickDr_willis: define useable.05:17
padanit will be plenty usable05:18
padanweb + email + terms05:18
Dr_willisEroick,  why dont you define it. :P05:18
Brydenn33rukuartic: here you go ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27627/05:18
padandont expect to be able to run xgl or some such05:18
steeltoes1234syco54645: it says error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable    error: could not execute pmount05:18
kitcheok dr`venom remove all of those resolutions that you don't want to use05:18
dr`venomand there is no nvidia splash so I dont know if the nvidia driver is working05:18
Syco54645Eroick: you should be able to play frozen bubble too ;)05:18
Lubixif i have a ubuntu and xp partition on my system now but want to drop the xp partition and just use the ubuntu and have it take up the whole disk how do i do that?05:18
La_PaRCapadan, there use to be a termcap-compat package back in warty05:18
Dr_willisdr`venom,  it could be displaying so fast on/off that you dont see the splash05:18
jim__Eroick, it will work. I have seen as low as 30 meg mem usage with fluxbox loaded05:18
Eroickwell, I want web, email, Openoffice or something of the like, a calendar :) and frozenbubble :P05:18
padanthere used to be, so i see in forum posts05:18
padanbut its not in the repositories now05:19
Syco54645steeltoes1234: you are using the command "sudo mount /dev/sda1 location"  ??05:19
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dr`venomso, I will delete those resolutions and just add mine?05:19
tokyoaheadhi all... I am trying to partition a USB stick with ubuntu 6.10 RC, which is in FAT16, but I get a WARNING: statfs /media/MY USB\040DISK: No such file or directory... what to do?05:19
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padanyou dont partition it05:19
kitchedr`venom: yeha that's how I do it it seems to work better05:19
La_PaRCapadan, can always try and download it and install it by hand.05:19
padanyou just mount it05:19
peepsLubix: you mean without reinstalling ubuntu?05:19
padanits vfat05:19
steeltoes1234no i did it by right clicking on my systems drive then go to mount device05:19
Eroicki got an error installing that said a package was corrupt. is this a major issue?05:19
Lubixpeeps: yes is it possible?05:19
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jim__tokyoahead try mounting it as /dev/sda105:19
rukuarticBrydenn33: Ha! Looks like they forgot to end one of their lines... Might want to let the wine people know about this05:19
urzi am trying to use dh_make05:19
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padanyes i know, but hte whole point of a package management system is to provide core libraries05:20
padantermcap is one of those things05:20
urzit aparently made a nearly empty rules file with about 4 includes05:20
urzusing cdbs05:20
atom_lol i couldnt find me way out of alt - cnt - f1 ... whats the command to get back to desktop?05:20
Lubixi found emulation and i dont have a need for a full xp partition05:20
johnficcahi does anyone know how to play yahoo music videos with ubuntu05:20
tokyoaheadjim__: thanks05:20
peepsLubix: well, you can always just format the windows partition to ext3fs and keep it as a separate partition that ubuntu can use05:20
Brydenn33rukuartic: eh, so i'm screwed huh? heh05:20
kitcheatom_: ctrnl-alt-f705:20
jim__atom ctrl alt f705:20
dr`venomI do this to every row right05:20
rukuarticBrydenn33: Ur, you might be able to fix it if you go to /home/bryndenn/Desktop/wine-0.9.9/tools/wrc and putting a ; where it needs one somewher along line 2610 of lex.yy.c05:20
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kitchedr`venom you can if you want to05:21
atom_thnx. is there a typable command to do it? i tried exit like dos :)05:21
peepsLubix: i don't know if you can "merge" two partitions though05:21
Brydenn33lmfao sweet, i'll try that rukuartic05:21
Lubixpeeps: hmmm interesting , ya that what i wanna do maybe ill just to a fresh install in a few days05:21
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steeltoes1234Syco54645: no i didnt do that in command lines05:21
jim__atom_: just use the 3 key combo to move back and forth05:21
rukuarticBrydenn33: (and a little secret, if you want to put all the output of a program into a text file, its "command > file"... but don't try it with something that takes input it'll mess up.)05:21
Lubixburn an iso of edgy and go fresh05:21
kitcheatom_: just the keys05:21
Boghow do I get my network working in the ubuntu server vmware image?05:21
jim__cntl alt and then the tty you want f1-f9 (I think is max)05:22
atom_ok. explain to me how to kill xserver again plz jim?05:22
Lubixso who has used qemu?05:22
Lubixdoes it rock?05:22
XenguyBrydenn33: '>' = output; '<' = input05:22
dr`venomok, I am going to save it and then do I need to restart x?05:22
Syco54645steeltoes1234: that should work.  i mount my /dev/sda1 drive to /mnt/sda, but you will need to make the mnt/sda directory05:22
jim__log in at tty05:22
Brydenn33lol i have no clue what you guys are talking about05:22
kitchedr`venom: yes you have to restart05:22
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pressingonalwayshello... i'm having extreme clock drifting in VM... I've enabled time syncronization and it isn't helping... any ideas anyone?05:22
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XenguyBrydenn33: command-line stuff05:22
jim__atom_: log in at tty, /proc/init.d/gdm stop05:22
Lubixif anyone has QEMU expirence please let me know i wanna know i got xp installing now05:22
XenguyBrydenn33: learn it now, or use it later :-)05:22
atom_thnx jim05:22
Bogpressingonalways: what's extreme?05:23
rukuarticBrydenn33: Haha, you know how you copied and pasted all that stuff? If you typed "make depend > output" it puts all that garbage in a little file called output05:23
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kitcheumm atom_: it's /etc/init.d/gdm stop not /proc/init.d/gdm05:23
jim__atom_: no prob05:23
peepsLubix: if you don't want to reinstall, try the gparted livecd, it might be able to do what you want05:23
steeltoes1234Syco54645: ok then how do i do that?05:23
jim__atom_: eep05:23
jim__atom_: sorry, he's right05:23
peepsit works much better than the gparted version that omes with ubuntu05:23
Brydenn33so instead of just typing make type "make > output"05:23
atom_np. thnx bunches05:23
Lubixpeeps: i will try it thanks, where can i get the iso?05:23
dr`venomOk, and now for the moment of truth05:23
rukuarticBrydenn33: Naw thats just a special circumstance05:24
XenguyBrydenn33: see also 'tee' :-)05:24
Syco54645steeltoes1234: i am not sure if ubuntu comes with /mnt by default, but if not then type sudo mkdir /mnt05:24
Eroicka package in dbootstrap is corrupt. Is this a major problem? will my system install anyway??05:24
jim__kitche: good catch *feeling sheepish now*05:24
Brydenn33you guys and your shell's05:24
rukuarticBrydenn33: We'll stop flooding you with needless information now, its just a neat trick05:24
Brydenn33i swear05:24
rukuarticBrydenn33: Fiddle with it some time05:24
Syco54645steeltoes1234: can i just pm you?  it will be easier05:24
dr`venomman, ubuntu's start up is quite sexy05:24
Brydenn33haha i will :)05:24
DaveDaDjHI, I have a airlink awlh3026 card. If I shutdown without deactivating the card I can't get back in the system without using recovery mode but never back into the desktop? Any thoughts?05:24
rukuarticdr`venom: Agreed :)05:24
Lubixubuntu is sexy05:24
pressingonalwayshello... i'm having extreme clock drifting in VM... I've enabled time syncronization and it isn't helping... any ideas anyone?05:24
steeltoes1234Syco54645: yes please pm05:24
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dr`venomI have to put this on my laptop05:24
pressingonalwaysmy clock is going like 30% faster05:25
dr`venomI have to learn how to undervolt with linux first though05:25
pressingonalwaysi just synced it 10 minutes ago and it's already 5 minutes off05:25
Mir1do you have a name of a channel about firefox for ubuntu?05:25
Brydenn33so rukuartic where was that " ; " at in lex.yy.c that i needed to add?05:25
dr`venomit works05:25
Lubixwhy would you uses VW is QEMU is free?05:25
dr`venomit worked05:25
rukuarticdr`venom: If you have a good processor it might support stepping, read up on powernowd05:25
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Lubixis it better?05:25
dr`venomsure will05:25
black_13next question how do i get the develment binaries for qt305:25
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rukuarticBrydenn33: should be on line 2610 or one or two lines above or below it05:26
dr`venomhey guys, one last thing. I installed the 686 smp and when grub comes on there is a whole bunch of kernel versions05:26
dr`venomhow can I take those off?05:26
rukuarticBrydenn33: Just look for where it needs one and put it, you should be able to guess05:26
Brydenn33well how the hell am i supposed to know where to put it lol05:26
dr`venomcan I do it via grub?05:26
Brydenn33hmm ok05:26
rukuarticBrydenn33: Every command ends in a ;05:26
rukuarticBrydenn33: You know its on line (whatever it was)05:26
Brydenn33well that is C/C++05:26
rukuarticBrydenn33: So just look around05:26
jim__dr`venom nano /boot/grub/menu.lst05:26
rukuarticBrydenn33: It might be blatantly obvious, or not so much... we'll see05:27
dr`venomin terminal?05:27
jim__dr`venom yuppers, dont screw up, nano doesnt make an auto backup05:27
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dr`venomI dont know how to use nano05:27
Brydenn33haha i found it05:27
Brydenn33the idiots05:27
Brydenn33they totally forgot the ";"05:27
Brydenn33YY_BUFFER_STATE yy_scan_string (yyconst char * yystr )  <--- is what they had05:28
dr`venomis there a gui way?05:28
jim__dr`venom very easy, just make your changes and ctrl x to quit, y to save05:28
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Lubixhey my QEMU xp install is stalling at 38%05:28
Brydenn33k i'll try this all again rukuartic05:28
jim__sudo su kate05:28
rukuarticBrydenn33: Ur could you copy and paste like 5 lines around that to pastebin?05:28
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dr`venomI dont see anything in the file05:28
rukuarticBrydenn33: I've had some programming experince I might see it05:28
dr`venomjust these commands05:28
Brydenn33rukuartic: let me do that really fast for ya05:28
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dr`venomread file05:28
Mir1where can i find infos about tables, used in "inpud methods"?05:28
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dr`venomget help05:28
Boganyone here use vmware images?05:28
dr`venomand so forth05:29
rbilBog, I do05:29
peepsmanual changes mades to menu.lst are overwritten when you do upgrades though05:29
peepshappened to me05:29
jim__dr`venom sudo su, then cd /boot/grub05:29
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Bogrbil: I downloaded the ubuntu image and I dont know how to get ethernet working05:29
DraGgonaki  br?05:29
jim__dr`venom then kate menu.lst05:29
Lubixwhy is vwmare the choice of QEMU!?05:29
Can0beanstrying to help a buddy with installing Drapper05:30
Brydenn33rukuartic: here ya are... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27628/05:30
DraGgonu internet are broad band?05:30
rbilBog, it should just use eth0 although it virtualizes it.05:30
Eroickis there an easy way to check MD5 sums from windows without cygwin?05:30
steeltoes1234Syco54645:   sorry i was unable to reply to your PM.   apparently i need to be registered with freenode first05:30
Can0beansand he is losing all video when he boots to the Live portion05:30
dr`venomi get command not found05:30
Can0beansany suggestions?05:30
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Bogrbil: when I load the image there is only
jim__dr`venom I thought kate shipped with ubuntu ?!?05:30
Syco54645steeltoes1234: oh yeah i forgot about that.  well did it work?05:30
Lubixis there a icq client that runs in terminal?05:31
jim__dr`venom try nano, its straight forward05:31
kitchejim__: isn't that a kde app?05:31
peepsjim__ probably only with kubuntu?  gnome has gedit05:31
dr`venomok but what do I do when i'm in nano05:31
steeltoes1234Syco54645: dunno going to try that now.    sorry i was trying to figure out how to regester.05:31
kitchedr`venom: it's has a menu at the bottom which will show you the commands to save and such05:31
dr`venomI dont see the anything in the file other than commands to execute with ctrl05:31
jim__dr`venom just use the arrow keys to navigate05:31
DraGgonsorry i dont speking inglish very well05:32
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rbilBog, sorry I'm not familiar with that vm image, so don't know what to suggest to fix it.05:32
INeedMailHelpHey there postfix isn't working, anyone help me?05:32
kitchedr`venom: did you do sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst05:32
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dr`venomand I get the blank screen with the commands at the bottom05:32
INeedMailHelpHey there, how do I set up a mail server05:32
Bogrbil: I should jut find aother I think.  do you know of any minimal ubuntu images?05:32
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atom_alt + ctrl + F7 didnt get me out of F1 shell window.. did i misread?05:32
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kitchedr`venom: umm it should have opened up your menu.lst05:32
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INeedMailHelpHey there, how do I set up a mail server, it's not working for me05:33
steeltoes1234Syco54645:  man i cant make that /mnt    says already exists!05:33
kitcheatom_: umm well if your X is killed it won't05:33
rbilBog, no I don't. I run W2K and some other o/s's under vmplayer. No ubuntu. I run ubuntu as host.05:33
peepsyou probably typed the file path wrong so it is giving you a new blank file05:33
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jim__atom_: if you killed gdm then you have to restart x05:33
dr`venomit does say GNU nano file /boot/gub/menu.1st05:33
Syco54645steeltoes1234: then just skip that step, go to the mkdir /mnt/sda part instead05:33
atom_i c05:33
tokyoaheadguys if I want install ubuntu to a USB disk (sda), and want GRUB to be installed to it also, what is the device I have to install it to? "(hd0)"is proposed, I have to set it to "(sda0)" or what?05:33
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dr`venombut there is nothing there other than the command menus05:33
kitchedr`venom: it's l such as L not 105:33
INeedMailHelpHey there, how do I set up a mail server, it's not working for me05:34
Bogrbil: thanks anyways05:34
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rukuarticBrydenn33: Sorry couldja give me the link again?05:34
Brydenn33rukuartic: here ya are... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27628/05:34
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peepsdr`venom and it's grub, not gub05:34
rukuarticBrydenn33: thanks, sorry I crashed :P05:34
dr`venomgot it05:34
dr`venomim in05:34
Brydenn33rukuartic: i saw hehe :) i'm patient05:34
dr`venomI did 1 instead of L05:34
steeltoes1234Syso54645:  ok now im getting pissed.    when i go to the next step it tells me that it at /mnt doesnt exist!!!!!!!!05:34
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rbilBog, I've seen a vm image that simply lets you boot a livecd within it and run. If you're interested, google for it.05:35
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rukuarticBrydenn33: return yy_scan_bytes(yystr,strlen(yystr) );05:35
rukuarticBrydenn33: Is that the line?05:35
Brydenn33YY_BUFFER_STATE yy_scan_string (yyconst char * yystr )  <--- is what they had05:35
rukuarticBrydenn33: Yea they totally did forget05:35
tokyoaheadguys if I want install ubuntu to a USB disk (sda), and want GRUB to be installed to it also, what is the device I have to install it to? "(hd0)"is proposed, I have to set it to "(sda0)" or what?05:35
rukuarticBrydenn33: Try again it should work now05:35
Brydenn33errr wait05:35
Brydenn33YY_BUFFER_STATE yy_scan_string (yyconst char * yystr )  <--- is like 261005:35
Bogrbil: there are alot of images around and on vmware's site.  I want to create my own image I think with LAMP.  do you know od a cpanel clone?05:35
rukuarticBrydenn33: oh05:36
dr`venomso what do I do to the file05:36
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: hmm... i am not sure why it would do that.  it shouldnt.  check that the command is entered correctly. or just copy and past it from my chat05:36
peepsso I did a dist-upgrade, and it removed nvidia-glx as a broken package.  anyone know what that is about?05:36
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rukuarticBrydenn33: Hurr hold up, looking at it05:36
dr`venomI dont see any of those kernels that I see during start up05:36
Eroickis there an easy way to check MD5 sums from windows without cygwin?05:36
PURESKILLZZZHello all05:36
Can0beanshe has an ati 3d rage iic05:36
jbmigelpeeps you upgraded your kernel and borken your kernel modules... rebuild05:36
rbilBog, no05:36
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peepswhat is best way to rebuild05:37
rukuarticBrydenn33: Couldja send me the link for the make error again? I think we're closing down on it05:37
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kitcheBog: there is many look up alternatives to cpanel05:37
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jbmigelpeeps did you install a custom nvidia driver or did you use package?05:37
Peloevening folks05:37
Bogkitchen: do you know the name of any?  I will be googling more05:37
KewlbI just used the disk manager to mount my windows (NTFS) drive into /media/windows05:37
peepsjbmigel i used nvidia beta drivers05:37
Kewlbbut it tells me access is denied when I try to acces it05:37
Pelodoes anyone know if I can control my screen brightness from within ubuntu ?05:37
steeltoes1234Syco54645: ya i jsut cut and pasted from your chat.   it is still doing the same thing05:38
Brydenn33rukuartic: here you go ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27627/05:38
jbmigelpeeps i suggest you "use" them again05:38
dr`venomdo I just erase the kernel entries that I dont want to show up at the beginning?05:38
kitcheBog: I m nopt sure that exact name but it's VHCD or somethign close to that05:38
peepshehe, ok i will try05:38
kitchedr`venom: yes05:38
Bogkitche: thanks05:38
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: i made a mistake... i typed the fix for it ;)05:38
kitcheBog: it's open source also :)05:38
black_13there has to be an easier way to install all of kde qt3 and so forth for developer05:38
Bogwell, I want to start with a minimal ubuntu image05:38
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peepswhat is a nice console based IRC client?05:39
kitcheblack_13: yes install the packages05:39
Can0beanstrying to help a buddy with installing Dapper05:39
Can0beanshe has an ati 3d rage iic05:39
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Bogkitche: ^^05:39
Can0beansand he is losing all video when he boots to the Live portion05:39
kitchepeeps: epic4 irssi or BitchX05:39
Can0beansany suggestions?05:39
black_13kitche well an uber package05:39
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rukuarticBrydenn33: Yarg... this sounds like something they need to fix... Last shot, lemme see a few more lines of code above this... If I can't find it there I might not be able to05:40
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steeltoes1234Syco54645: now im having problems with the next step!05:40
TubaSoldierquestion: when it comes to DV Cams which ones are most compatible with linux or that work well. and how do they connect to linux?05:41
Brydenn33ok hold on rukuartic... i'll copy more :)05:41
Syco54645steeltoes1234: if you are in xchat, or any other modern irc client you can just type sy and hit tab to complete my name, not sure if you are doing that as it was misspelled the one time05:41
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: what is the account on your machine called?05:41
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Syco54645like your user name05:41
Syco54645just replace the `whoami` bit with the name05:41
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Syco54645and it will work05:41
Brydenn33rukuartic: more code :) weeeeeeeee http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27629/05:41
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dr`venomdo I have to save the menu.lst, or do I just exit05:42
kitchedr`venom: have to save05:43
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steeltoes1234Syco54645: alright ill try that05:43
Syco54645steeltoes1234: ok05:43
peepswhen you exit, it will ask if you want to save changes05:43
Brydenn33see rukuartic... what i dont get how people are using wine 0.9.9. If it won't complile cuz of a syntax error are they all just fixing it manually themselves?05:43
dr`venomis the writeout command the save05:43
dr`venomI dont see any save in the file menu05:44
Lubixdoes anyone have know how to make the backspace key in FireFox RC3 go to the previous page instead of acting as Page Up05:44
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dr`venomman, I have learned so much today! thanks a lot you guys05:45
rukuarticBrydenn33: Golly you've found a bug thats a real good one... Anyone with C++ knowledge might be able to help you... Give them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27629/ (SOURCE) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27627/ (ERROR) to help them out05:45
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Pelowhat's firefox ?05:45
rukuarticLubix: OH! I just found that today05:45
steeltoes1234Syco54645: arg no it still doesnt work.     ok im getting fusterated now.    i think i might just abandon this whole Linux thing all together and go back to windows xp05:45
dr`venomI'm going to talk to my date about all of this. LOL05:45
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rukuarticLubix: type "about:config" in the URL bar, and then search for backspace05:45
Syco54645steeltoes1234: what is the error that it is giving?05:46
Lubixrukuartic: thanks05:46
dr`venomhey, I learned to configure the menu.lst file05:46
rukuarticLubix: Change to 105:46
Brydenn33ok thanks rukuartic05:46
steeltoes1234Syco54645: thanks for your help though05:46
dr`venommaybe that will get me some love05:46
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: sorry it didnt work for you05:46
rukuarticBrydenn33: Sorry I couldn't help =\05:46
Dr_willisdr`venom,  you learned to configure GRUB by editing the menu.lst :)05:46
steeltoes1234Syco54645:chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/sda': Operation not permitted05:46
steeltoes1234chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/': Operation not permitted05:46
Brydenn33hehe it's ok rukuartic05:46
steeltoes1234david@david-desktop:~$ chown -R `david` /mnt05:46
steeltoes1234bash: david: command not found05:46
steeltoes1234chown: missing operand after `/mnt'05:46
dr`venomthats right, now, on to multimedia05:46
steeltoes1234Try `chown --help' for more information.05:46
peepsdr`venom lol, you stud05:47
dr`venomhey, in your guy's opinion, is xgl useful or just eye candy05:47
Dr_williseye candy05:47
Syco54645steeltoes1234: check the pm05:47
TubaSoldiermy opinion its eye candy. makes wine run really slow05:47
dr`venomok, so i'm better off without it eh?05:47
kitchedr`venom: eye candy it gets lame after a while05:47
steeltoes1234Syco54645: ya i saw that  ill try it05:47
dr`venomyea, it did slow me down with suse05:48
dr`venomdoes wine run quite quick?05:48
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dr`venomor does it run slugish05:48
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dr`venomoh, so it must run nice05:48
dr`venommaybe i will be able to drop windows sooner than I thought possible05:49
peepsi think it depends what you run with it05:49
Peloruns smootly but for a little flicker ,  but then Torrent is not very demanding05:49
TubaSoldierwine depends on the program you are running under it.05:49
TubaSoldierbut with xgl it slows way down.05:49
Lubixok i cant find where backspace might be05:49
TubaSoldierat least it did for me05:49
dr`venomI have a p4 3.2 with ht and 2gigs of ram05:49
Pelodr`venom , I am one application away from dropping window  alltogether05:49
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dr`venomnice pelo05:49
PeloI just need an autocad r14  copy and it is gone05:49
TubaSoldierI've dropped it. I'm just one application from dropping wine alltogether.05:50
tiredbones_I just installed gxine. How do you start a cd to play?05:50
dr`venomI run windows in my laptop because of onenote and notebook hardware control's ability to undervolt05:50
Dr_willisdr`venom,  with ubuntu i can clock down my laptop cpu further then i can under windows. :)05:50
steeltoes1234Syco54645: well what is sudo anyways?05:50
SuperMiguelbesides vnc, http, ftp, media server, mail server, ssh there is any other tool for a server?05:50
dr`venomcan you keep the clock at the same speed and just undervolt it like in windows05:50
Dr_willisdr`venom,   so slow its not even useable. :) well not for videos..  i can still irc.05:51
dr`venomthats essentially what I want to do05:51
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Dr_willisi guess its just speed. the turion cpu is so low voltage its scary05:51
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dr`venomI am running the dothan 1.7 at 972v as appose to 1.3905:51
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dr`venomthat drop in voltage makes a big difference05:52
rbilSuperMiguel, much of GNU/Linux is made up of servers and clients ... cups, X, etc.05:52
dr`venomI hard hear the fan and battery last a good 20% longer05:52
dr`venomthats my reason for having windows on this laptop05:52
SuperMiguelrbil :S05:52
dr`venomI got my tablet to work features to work on linux just have to learn to undervolt05:53
rukuarticdr`venom: If you have a CPU that supports frequency scaling look into powernowd05:53
rukuarticAnd with that I'm out, g'nite peoples! :305:53
dr`venomI will05:53
dr`venomgood night man05:54
dr`venomtake care05:54
dr`venomdo any of you tripple boot05:54
dr`venomwindows, linux, and osx?05:54
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Lubixrukartic: it was set to 1 i had to change to 005:54
jazzrockerhow can i find the home directory of a user given the user's uid?05:54
rbilcat /etc/passwd05:54
dr`venomthats my goal. I hope to make an economic comparative analysis between these 3 os's for my thesis.05:55
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dr`venomand hope that my department will be interested in putting in a few linux based computers in the lab05:55
Shadow_milI wanna setup a cron that will backup the dir contents of /home/chuck to /media/usbdisk/backup.tar  What would be the best like for that?  I am thinking something like:     tar -u /media/usbdisk/backup.tar /home/chuck05:55
Mad3Max3how do I check which version of alsa that is loaded.. I did a compilation of the latest one and I don't know if it loaded over the old ones05:55
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steeltoes1234Syco54645: ok i still can t get it to work, but ive really got to go to bed.   im tired.    ill play with this again tommorrow 1 last time before giving up!05:56
Syco54645steeltoes1234: ok have a good one05:56
steeltoes1234Syco54645: thanks a lot for all your help.  i really appreciate that05:57
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Syco54645steeltoes1234: np05:57
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Mad3Max3beacuse in synaptic it still says the old version I had before.. 1.0.11 and I installed 1.0.1305:58
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Lubixso i will try this again, Has Anyone Tried QEMU!?05:59
dr`venomwhen it comes to music and video playback, do you guys recomend easy ubuntu or the individual codec instructions05:59
dr`venomsorry, this is my first time in ubuntu so I dont know what works better.05:59
rbilcat /etc/passwd | grep <uid>  would save having to look through the whole file05:59
PeloMad3Max3 , open the terminal and type  alsamixer05:59
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tiredbones_I have a sound blaster live pci card and I have a creative speaker system, but I have no manual. the jack from the speak should plug in what spot on the pci card?06:01
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rbiltiredbones_, speaker usually goes into green plug06:02
Mad3Max3Pelo, where does it say which version is loaded in alsamixer06:02
rbilassuming they are color coded :-)06:02
PeloMad3Max3  top of the window06:02
SuperMiguelany easy to configure mail server?06:02
tiredbones_rbil, is there some test I can do to see if thing are right?06:03
Mad3Max3ok.. old version loaded then.. how do I load the new over the old.. do I have to uninstall the old ones first?06:03
rbilare they color coded?06:03
jahallmightyel digame alguien el como del favor del por entrar una PC del otra06:03
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tiredbones_rbil, I would say yes.06:04
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rbilthen u can be sure green is for speaker06:04
fnfHi, will anyone please tell me how 'startx' knows which window manager I've installed (and active), where's the script/config file which specify that ?.06:04
PeloMad3Max3  that's a bit over my head, ,I haven'T installed much stuff that's not from the packages,  but I would assume so06:04
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tiredbones_rbil, how do I test for sound? I have a cd in but no music.06:05
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kitchefnf: it's can be in many places .xsession or .xinitrc both are in your /home/<user> directory06:05
rbilaudio cd?06:05
jahallmightydigame somebody as to enter another computer by favo I want to learn06:05
tiredbones_rbil, yes, the sound track for Loin King.06:05
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rbilcan u get sound going into ~/Examples and looking at stuff in there?06:05
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto06:06
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fnfkitche: I've looked up both of them in /etc, by default Ubuntu's xinitrc just invokes Xsession, Xsession tells nothing about my window manager.06:06
kitchefnf: umm they are in /etc they should be in your /home directory06:06
jahallmightythen nobody ba to adecir to me like06:07
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kitchefnf: I mean they should not be in /etc06:07
fnfkitche: I haven't crafted my custom .xinitrc as I'm using Ubuntu server and manually installed X server and icewm window manager.06:07
rbiltiredbones_ old system?06:07
rbilseparate audio card?06:07
tiredbones_rbil, what do you mean here, "can u get sound going into ~/Examples"06:08
dr`venomdo any of you guys recomend automatix 2?06:08
fnfkitche: Ubuntu server does not automatically create a custom .xinitrc in my home directory.06:08
rbilthere are some sound files you can test going into your home directory and into Examples directory06:08
kitchefnf: might be a .xsession06:08
tiredbones_rbil, I don't see any sound file in examples.06:09
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rbilno ogg file?06:09
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tiredbones_rbil, yes, ther are some oggs. how do I use them?06:10
rbiltiredbones_, I ask because wondering if you can play a regular sound file, but just not audio cd sounds.06:10
rbiljust double click on it and see06:10
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fnfkitche: It's not there either: by default a newly created user receives nothing in his home, that is: I couldn't find .xsession, .xinitrc or the like. Nonetheless, after installing X server and icewm, I can startx out of the box.06:10
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rbiltiredbones_, if you computer is an older vintage then it may require a cable from CDROM to soundcard.06:11
rbilwon't play thru pci06:11
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peepsargh, trying to get xorg working again, and fsck decides to do it's thing06:11
peepsso i wait06:11
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SuperMiguel if my hosting come with email services, and i install a mail server using the same hosting will that shut down the hosting email system?\06:13
peepsi think i'm gonna have to increase that interval from every 30 boots to every 6006:13
tiredbones_rbil, the motheboard is L7vmm3 with amd k7 processor. is that old?06:13
rbiltiredbones_ did u get sound playing an ogg file?06:13
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tonyyarussoThe DVD has the regular desktop, alternate, and server cd capabilities all rolled into one, right?06:14
SuperMiguel if my hosting come with email services, and i install a mail server using the same hosting will that shut down the hosting email system?\06:14
tiredbones_rbil, I haven't figure out how to double click on it. I see the file with ls command.06:14
PeloSuperMiguel why do you want to hose your own email server ?06:14
rbiltiredbones, you not in a gui desktop?06:14
SuperMiguelPelo will that give me more space06:15
SuperMigueli just have 25MB :)06:15
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tiredbones_rbil, yes I have guui, but file only show with ls command06:16
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lokadin_what is the cupsd password?06:16
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PeloSuperMiguel I haven'T got a clue,  I just use a client06:16
rbiltiredbones_ too strange. You go to Places .... Home Folder and you can't go into Examples?06:16
peepstiredbones_ you know ~ means your home directory06:17
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Shadow_miltar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive   <--what does that mean?06:17
lokadinhow do i set the cupsd password?06:17
tiredbones_peeps, yes06:17
lokadinor find out?06:17
lokadinhas anyone here used cupsd before?06:17
lokadinor for that matter, printed anything from ubuntu06:17
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Pelolokadin  I've setup two printers on two different lpt port and I have no problems printing with either06:18
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lokadinPelo: cool, do you use cups?06:19
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Pelolokadin  I just use the thingy from the system menu06:19
lokadinhow do you get there?06:19
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Pelolokadin  in the top taskbar , system , parameters,  printers06:20
iamthericEnis you in here?06:20
Dr_willislokadin,  you trying to use the cups web interface?06:20
Pelolokadin  I think that's it06:20
lokadinDr_willis: yes06:20
tiredbones_rbil, ok I double clicked on the file and got error message "Totem could not startup"06:20
ejhey I just upgraded ubuntu but x wont start. I believe its because some packages are being held back. Can anyone help?06:20
rbiltiredbones_ totem installed?06:20
lokadinlokadin@cisma:~$ foomatic-gui06:20
lokadin*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x081781d8 ***06:20
lokadinUnable to read printer database.06:20
Dr_willislokadin,  its disabled by default - it looks like it works - but it dont. check the forums/wikis on how to reenable it.  or use the gnome cups config program06:20
halitechlokadin - System - Administration - Printing06:20
tiredbones_rbil, yes06:20
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tiredbones_rbil, so is gxine06:21
Pelolokadin  sorry, I was translating from french,  halitech  probably has it right06:21
ejhey I just upgraded ubuntu but x wont start. I believe its because some packages are being held back. Can anyone help?06:21
lokadinhalitech: there is no Administration06:21
rbiltiredbones_ right click and try to open with another sound client06:21
halitechlokadin, what version of Ubuntu?06:21
Ragnaroeknot sure06:21
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Pelolokadin  ,  system , what ever the second thing is,  look for printer or printing or something similar06:22
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tiredbones_rbil, that is the only ogg file I have.06:22
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lokadinhow do i check what version?06:22
lokadinoh i'm using XUBUNTU06:22
ejis there a way to force package upgrade06:22
rbiltiredbones_ I meant try to open the ogg file with some other sound player06:22
rbilmaybe your totem is misinstalled or missing something06:23
lokadinPelo: i found printer, foomatic-gui when i try to load i get:0lokadin@cisma:~$ foomatic-gui06:23
lokadin*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x081781d8 ***06:23
halitechok, XFCE i different, I have gnome and KDE installed on mine06:23
lokadinUnable to read printer database.06:23
tiredbones_rbil, how do I do that?06:23
ejis there a way to force package upgrade06:23
Ademani'm having one hell of a time playing a DVD (specifically nightmare before chrismtas, i know i know, its just haloween and i had a craving to see it) other dvds have worked in the past, i have libdvdcss206:23
sandy16my ubuntu dapper 6.06 is unable to boot and its saying that the charecters in /etc/inittab are too long and its asking me to enter the run level mannually06:23
Pelolokadin  try installing tha pacakge first , I seem to recall xubuntu installs pretty light to start with06:23
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Ademani'm gonna try another dvd, but any idea why its not working?06:23
rbilright click on the ogg file .. then Open with ...06:24
sandy16how can i make my dapper rework?06:24
ejAdeman: have you tryed mplayer?06:24
Ademanej: yep, it crashed X :-p06:24
holycowAdeman, all dvds are encrypted, decryption work 99.99 percent of the time06:24
black_13i have just installed the autotools and i am getting ./configure: line 135 'AM_AUTOMAKE(serlook,0.4.0)`06:24
ejAdeman: xine-ui?06:24
Ademantotem just sat there, and the disk spinning ,mplayer crashed X :-)06:24
holycowAdeman, .01 percent of the time it doesn't, you just gotta deal with the fact studios encrypt their dvds and don't let us build dvd players that decrypt stuff without very stiff licencing fees06:24
Pelosandy16  what is the last thing you did before ubuntu fucked up ?06:24
holycowthere was once a dvd player that you could buy for linux but linspire madeit purely interna;06:25
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ejcan someone please tell me how to force packages to be installed/upgraded that are being "left behind"06:25
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holycowthe scam basically involves charging you twice btw, once for the dvd and once for the player06:25
halitechtiredbones, if you go to linuxreality.com, he has all of his episodes in ogg format06:26
Peloej  what do you mean by left behind ?06:26
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sandy16Pelo, i did nothing in the last session but ages before i have stopped the default filesystem check from /etc/init.d/cheskfs.sh06:26
tiredbones_rbil, I open it with rymthbox. I could hear the cd going but no soud.06:26
lokadinPelo: what package to install for printer?06:26
Pelosandy16  can you run it manualy ?06:26
slacktyroi'm looking at winehq page there're different mirrors for ubuntu dapper or ubuntu breezy, what's that?06:26
ejPelo: ok I upgraded by xubuntu install to edgy. And x wotnt start so I do a "apt-get upgrade" and then I see a list of xorg related packages06:26
sandy16Pelo, i just kept all the entire script in /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh to comments06:27
rbiltirebones_ check amixer and make sure that nothing is muted ... double click on sound icon on taskbar to get into amixer06:27
Pelolokadin   re-intall that -gui thing06:27
ejPelo: saying that there being left behind06:27
Ademanholycow: thats retarded, we need an open source video format  (not like ogg theora or whatever, like, an open source dvd type format, menus and whatnot, even stick it on dual layered dvds and tout it as a high capacity format, i dunno)06:27
iamthericanyone get e17 to have real transparency yet?06:27
halitechslack, dapper and breezy are 2 different versions of ubuntu, dapper is the latest and Edgy is the next release06:27
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slacktyrohalitech: how can i know what's mine?06:27
rcarrslacktryo: Breezy is 5.04, Dapper 6.04, and Edgy 6.1006:28
Peloej ic, I don'T have an answer for you,  try loading them from synaptic06:28
Railerquick newbie question how do I take root commands with my current user, so I can add files to another users home directory, in the gui, not cli06:28
Pelosandy16 I have no idea06:28
IngrixRailer: su or sudo06:28
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rcarrslackttryo: I think in gnome it is under help about, or something along those lines, but I do not use gnome06:28
ejPelo: lolI cant run synaptic. Seeing as how X doesnt start but thx.06:28
rcarrslacktryo: but you can run cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep dapper06:28
peepsHUZZAH, xorg works again06:28
holycowAdeman, indeed, the problem isn't that, its that the media companies are beyond greedy.  i don't mind them protecting their stuff with even drm but them charging to make a player06:28
sandy16Pelo, but when i give the run level its becoming hanged up06:28
rcarretc etc06:28
rcarrto see which one shows up06:28
halitechslack, go to system - about ubuntu if you are using gnome06:28
rcarror just open the file and see which one is listed06:28
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slacktyromine is dapper drake thank you halitech06:29
halitechslack, welcome06:29
Raileringrix I know how to do it in CLI but it seems I still cannot transfer files in GUI06:29
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Ademanholycow: what does that make the legal status of libdvdcss2 ?06:29
halitechslack, if you want an easy way, there is a great howto on the forum on installing and setting it up06:29
IngrixI apologize but I do not know from there06:29
holycowAdeman, depends on the country, not legal in us, soon not to be legal in canada i bet, legal in sweden06:30
tiredbones_rbil, the message "he volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured."06:30
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sandy16is there no body to help me out please?06:30
PeloRailer http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php06:30
rbiltirebones_ probably you don't have a sound card configured06:30
peepsRailer: gksudo06:31
rbilthat would account for no sound :-)06:31
PeloRailer  you might find that link helpfull06:31
peepsgksudo nautilus for example06:31
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Ademanholycow: so that means i'm breaking the law? lol06:31
PeloG'night folks06:31
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tiredbones_rbil, are there some wizards fot this?06:31
holycowbut all great revolutions start with small law infractions06:32
seadoo18hey dudes06:32
rbilmaybe this will help u get going? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/187606:32
Ademangross, shouldn't be a sin to watch a legally bought (rented) dvd on a legally bought dvd player as part of a legally bought computer...06:32
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seadoo18does anyone know how I can get my Trackpad to stop, cuz i really hate using it06:33
SuperMiguelwhat are the system requirement to install putty?06:33
holycowAdeman, i fyou live i nthe u.s. you have a lot to thank the republicans for the state you guys are in freedome wise ... or lack there of although dems aren't all that much better06:33
holycowAdeman, absolutely06:33
tiredbones_rbil, thanks06:33
Ademanholycow: i dunno... maybe the stuffy republicans, i'm one myself, and look at me, i'm using hte "commie OS"06:33
holycowAdeman, unfortunately the your local state reps owned by the funding from corporations seem to disagree06:33
tonyyarussoseadoo18: You can comment out the device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:33
seadoo18tonyyarusso, do you know what the device would be called?06:34
iamthericwifi wouldnt work on the g406:34
holycowAdeman, its probably fair to think of republicans in lots of varieties ... current gov't being one particularly nasty variety thats all06:34
tonyyarussoseadoo18: probably something like "synaptics touchpad" I'd guess06:34
Mad3Max3If I compiled and installed new drivers. how do I get them to load instead of the old ones that came with synaptic. it's the alsa 1.0.11 vs 1.0.13 drivers..06:34
sandy16 my ubuntu dapper 6.06 is unable to boot and its saying that the charecters in /etc/inittab are too long and its asking me to enter the run level mannually but when i give runlevel it has no responce06:34
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rbiltiredbones_ after reading thru that one, it might not be too helpful, just google and read. I'm sure you'll find answers. I'll look a bit and let you know if I find anything more helpful06:34
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Ademanholycow: frankly, i think its less republican ideals that are fucking things up, and much more the fact that politicians are fucked up, no matter their party affiliation06:35
RailerI have 2 users neither root, I'm logged in as one. How do I transfer files from one home to another in GUI? I just tried gksudo no luck.06:35
DBOAdeman, this is not the place for that, and please watch your language06:35
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holycowAdeman, i would agree with that but then we are off topic06:35
IngrixAdeman: both parties are fueled by big money.  What helps big money helps them06:35
IngrixAnd they have a need for power06:36
holycowso yeah decryption isn't perfect but its darned close06:36
holycowyey for dvdjon :)06:36
Ademani guess i'm going to have to take it into the living room to watch :-(06:36
Ademanlater all06:36
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holycowsee ya sorry bro06:37
IngrixIm out all.  Night.06:37
seadoo18tonyyarusso, ok you were right, it's the synaptics touchpad06:37
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seadoo18tonyyarusso, but i still want to use that little red dot to move the mouse, you know the Thinkpad integrated mouse06:38
marshallum... h-hi everybody06:38
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tiredbones_rbil, I bought a book today, title "Beg. Ubuntu Linux" and I read the section on multimedia. It sure did say anything about config your sound card.06:38
halitechSuperMiguel, are you trying to install on windows or ubuntu?06:38
tonyyarussoseadoo18: Hmm, okay.06:38
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tonyyarussoHi marshall06:38
Raileranyone, sorry I'm a newbie to ubuntu, I have 2 users neither root, I'm logged in as one. How do I transfer files from one home to another in GUI? I just tried gksudo no luck, I can do it in CLI but I want to know how in GUI06:39
marshallhi tonyyarusso06:39
Dr_willis"Hi, My name is Dr_willis  and I'm a Ubuntu Addict"06:39
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rbiltiredbones_ what soundcard do u have?06:39
_CaseyHi, Dr_willis06:39
teledynRailer: cp ?06:39
marshallRailer, how did you not end up with a root account?06:39
ubotusshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 100 kB06:39
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marshallRailer, should the root pass be the same as that of the user you set up during installation?06:40
holycowRailer, the easiest way is to create ssh links to a folder on their account06:40
tiredbones_rbil, maybe I use the wrong term. Sound blaster live.06:40
Railerwell I can use the root pass for gksudo but I still cant transfer the file06:40
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seadoo18marshall, you and your knowledge06:40
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teledyni want to put gas in my car.  i need to remove the gas cap.  is there some automated tool that will remove the gas cap?06:41
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holycowteledyn, hahaha06:41
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rbiltiredbones_ very common soundcard, I'd think ubuntu would have drivers for it builtin06:41
seadoo18teledyn that actually was pretty funny06:41
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marshalllol seadoo1806:42
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atom_can i get an expert x64 comment on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281358 ?06:42
Railerlet me ask this is there any way to give a normal user root abilities in GUI?06:42
atom_users and groups railer06:43
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holycowyou don't really want to do that that06:43
bwlangRailer: gksudo?06:43
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bwlangRailer: that will let you run a GUI program as root06:43
marshallbwlang, he tried that already06:43
RailerI tried gksudo, password worked but still cannot transfer the file06:43
seadoo18tonyyarusso, you still with me?06:43
tonyyarussoseadoo18: Yeah, looking around.06:44
holycowRailer, you are doing this wrong06:44
holycowplease listen to what i told you06:44
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marshallRailer, you have to do gksu then the command you would do normally06:44
bwlangmarshall: sorry - thought that was a new thread06:44
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holycowssh in to each others accounts06:44
holycowplaces / connect server06:44
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holycowthats all06:44
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marshallRailer, so it would be gksu nautilus <path to directory>06:44
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holycowthats actually a bad idea06:45
holycowwhen you put the file on the other users desktop it will be owned by root06:45
Railerthe point is I dont want to do it in CLI, I'm trying in GUI06:45
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holycowthe other user wont be able to delete it06:45
holycowstop doing dumb things, just ssh into the users account, its simple06:45
holycowand yes you can do it via cli06:45
holycowplaces / servers06:45
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marshalllol starsky-hutchy06:46
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marshallwicked name06:46
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Railerholycow I can do it though GUI right?06:46
Farrelli just reinstalled winXP and it wiped out my MBR... how do i re-install grub? i still have my ubuntu 6.06 install livecd06:46
holycowrailer how many times do i haveto repeat my self?06:47
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holycowRailer, i'm trying to help make it easy for me and read what i wrote06:47
holycowplaces / connect to server06:47
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holycowjust make sure you have ssh installed06:47
Railer"and yes you can do it via cli" I want to do it via GUI, you just confused me06:47
holycowRailer, places /connect to server06:48
halitechFarrell, check out here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279750&highlight=grub06:48
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holycowif you insist on making it hard for me to help me i can easily stop06:48
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holycow"for me to help me" <-- hehe06:48
Railerdude I'm just new to this, I'm trying06:48
holycowi mean you06:48
holycowRailer, i know but do remember comming home after doing this for a living is just as much hard work06:49
Eroickhow do i mount a USB Stick from a terminal?06:49
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tonyyarussoseadoo18: So far I've seen suggestions for using tpconfig to mess with it, or disabling the touchpad in the bios.06:50
Farrellhalitech, thx06:50
seadoo18yeah holycow give Railer a break06:50
Railerwhat do I put in for server06:51
holycowip address06:51
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holycowRailer, probably not i've not tried that, heh, lan ip address06:51
Raileraccess denied06:51
teledynis there any chance ubuntu will ever incorporate swsusp2 into their kernels?06:51
rbilRailer, what are u trying to do?06:52
seadoo18tonyyarusso, tpconfig? i can run that from the terminal i suppose?06:52
halitechquestion Railer and sorry if you answered and I missed it, but do you have static IPs assigned on each computer have?06:52
tonyyarussoseadoo18: Yeah06:52
iamthericEroick, $mount /dev/yourdevice06:52
strabesseadoo18: yeah06:52
seadoo18thanks guys06:52
seadoo18i'm a n00b06:52
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Railerit's the same computer, I'm just trying to transfer a file from one user directory to another06:53
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iamthericwhy doesnt ubuntu ship with gcc?06:53
seadoo18dudes tpconfig doesn't work06:53
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holycowhe's trying to transfer via gui from one non admin user to another non admin (sudo) users06:53
holycoweasiest way is via mounting a local ssh pass to each account06:53
gnopgnipyou could make your own install cd with gcc06:53
sethkiamtheric, it doesn't ship with anything.  Depending on which type of install you select, you may or may not get gcc during the install06:53
halitechgksudo nautilus doesn't work?06:53
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seadoo18i amtheric, i know that's retarded eh06:53
holycowiamtheric, its for security reasons primarily.  we have a lot of noobs running this stuff, the last thing they need is a compromised box with gcc on it06:54
mneptonRailer: you need to cp the file with sudo, and then chown it so the other user can read it.06:54
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sethkmnepton, chmod is better than chown in that situation, almost always06:55
holycowmnepton, no he doesn't06:55
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holycowhe just needs to mount th eother account via ssh from places/servers06:55
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holycowthats the fastest/easiest way an dit uses gui, no need fo rcli06:55
tonyyarussoseadoo18: You probably need to install it first.06:55
mneptonoh, it's remote?06:55
holycowno its local but thats irrelevant06:55
mneptonis sshd installed and running?06:56
holycowhe wants a user friendly method he can setup for his users via gui06:56
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iamthericso what c compiler does it use?06:56
sethkholycow, if a box is compromised, it hardly makes any difference whether gcc is there or not.06:56
sethkiamtheric, gcc, of course06:56
seadoo18i amtheric, you can install g++06:56
Railermnepton, close enough, thanks everyone, sshd I think is runnung but it didn't work the nautlis thing is close enough for now06:56
holycownot if the account compromised is restricted06:56
sethkiamtheric, there is an intel compiler, also, but it isn't free06:56
mneptonoh, something for multiple users. create /home/share and make it writable by a group the users all belong to.06:56
seadoo18iamtheric, if you want c++06:56
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Eroickyay, installing is going good06:57
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sethkholycow, that makes no sense06:57
holycowgcc would give them a few more tools to work with06:57
holycowit makes a lot of sense, you don't need sudo to compile06:57
iamthericwell i was gonna use ubuntu for the school comps for programming lessons because it was the only live cd anyof us had06:57
marshallseadoo18, yeah06:57
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sethkholycow, makes absolutely no difference whether you compile on the compromised box, or compile elsewhere.  you can do exactly the same bad things.06:58
Jesusi've been sent by God to tell you all that you suck06:58
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holycowiamtheric, you can download lots of other live cds, knoppix is excellent, lots of other ones out there06:58
atom_whats the best ftp client program for linux?06:58
Eroickif I do apt-get install fluxbox, will it get X as well?06:58
Jesusholycow, lmao knoppix is crap!06:58
holycowsethk, whatever bro.  go ahead teach us your l33t haxor skills bro06:58
marshalllol Jesus, God is already in use06:58
sethkmarshall, which, jesus or god?06:59
mneptonholycow: dude.06:59
_CaseyLike I'm gonna trust the Son of God, our Lord and Saviour on Linux issues.06:59
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iamthericyeah i know06:59
marshallEroick, no, i dont think fluxbox is a metapackage. i ahvent tried it for a few months though so it might be now06:59
iamthericwe just had a bunch of ubuntu cds06:59
rcarrEroick: try apt-cache show fluxbox | grep "(x|X)org"06:59
rbiljesus, tell GW Bush to get out of Iraq. He listens to you apparently.06:59
marshallsethk, God is taken06:59
rcarrEroick: To see if it is listed as a dependency, it probably is though06:59
iamthericand we were like "lets try this"06:59
marshallrbil, he says he does lol06:59
Jesusrbil, lol i'll take it under advisement06:59
iamthericbut we couldnt find a suitible c compiler07:00
Jesusrbil, put it on my todo07:00
_CaseyBut.. But.. "Thou shalt no.." eh, whatever.07:00
marshalli thing GWB would crap himself if jesus actually did exist07:00
Raileranyother GUI question, anyway to see my ip address from gui and not ifconfig?07:00
rbiljesus, don't take too long, hundreds are dying everyday07:00
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Eroickrcarr: hmm, I cant find the package07:00
Jesusrbil, yeah, it's pretty bad over there07:00
tonyyarussoJesus: I'm coming up with nothing, unfortunately.07:00
marshallrbil, really? just hundreds?07:00
sethkiamtheric, certain install selections do install gcc, so what you are saying doesn't make a lot of sense.07:00
mneptonRailer: System -> Admin -> Network tools07:00
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holycowRailer, system / admin / networking should show it to you for your eth device07:01
halitechRailer, if you go to http://ipchicken.com  you can get it for your external07:01
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holycowhalitech, he's probably be3hind a router, that won't give him his local lan ip07:01
Railerok too easy using external, must learn ubuntu07:01
holycowRailer, also system / admin / network tools will give you the ip07:01
holycowunder devices, select your eth device07:02
halitechholycow, thats why I specified for his external07:02
iamthericno i was using it as a live cd on the school laptops07:02
rbilhe can look within the router and get the ip address of connected compuers on his lan07:02
iamthericand i could install because the wifi was locked07:02
Railer103 it is thank you07:02
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Eroickyay! my wifi card works!07:02
rbilbut if he's going to ssh back into his box, wouldn't localhost work?07:02
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holycowit should but i've never bothered to try07:03
sethkrbil, sure07:03
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tonyyarussoNO!  Come back...07:03
holycowthe key to ssh is actually just typing in the right ip address and right username/pass07:03
tonyyarussooh, wait07:03
rbilssh username@localhost07:03
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tonyyarussotwo: Got something!07:03
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sethkrbil, that works fine, but what is the point?07:03
rbilno idea07:03
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UtterMassacretonyyarusso, awesome!07:03
rbilwhy he'd want to ssh back into his own box, I don't understand07:03
tonyyarussoUtterMassacre: Maybe it is this easy.  Try adding the Option TouchpadOff 1 (or true).07:04
sethkrbil, me neither.  :)07:04
holycowthe point, if we are talking about railers question is: how does a local user share files between other users without doing cli, installing funky services, just standard gui tools in default install07:04
holycowssh back to the local account via gui mount is the easiest07:04
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holycowwhich part of this is hard?07:04
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UtterMassacretonyyarusso, where do i add this in the conf file?07:04
Eroickconsole is using all my mem right now less swap.07:04
mneptonholycow: a directory is created for users to share information between themselves in /home07:04
rbilholycow, setup a directory accessible by all users and dump the files in there07:04
Eroickfluxbox isnt going to work i take it.07:04
holycowmnepton, no sorry07:05
holycowmnepton, go aheda and try to write there without sudo access07:05
sethk holycow why in the world would you do that?  you can simply become the other user.07:05
holycowrbil, hes not asking that tho07:05
holycowrbil, like i said, no funky stuff, no need to install services, no admin cli stuff, no permissioning crap07:05
rbilholycow, sorry, but I missed the op's original question07:05
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sethkhe meant a subdirectory of /home, plus, you can grant read/write for groups anywhere you want, and put everyone in that group.07:05
holycowman you guys hafve never adminned a multi user system before where you had reguloar windows uswers wanting to do regular windowsy things and still maintain normal unixy security?07:06
mneptonholycow: sudo mkdir /home/share && sudo chown -R users:users /home/share && sudo chmod 770 /home/share07:06
holycowrbil, no biggie07:06
tonyyarussoUtterMassacre: So you've got Section "Input Device", Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad", the driver, and probably a couple of option lines.  Just add another option line in the same format as the others,  Option   "TouchpadOff"   "1" right there, save it, and restart X.07:06
holycowmnepton, he said no cli07:06
holycowis everyone stupid here?07:06
holycowi'm serious07:06
mneptonholycow: alt-f207:06
sethkssh is cli, fool07:06
holycowhes asking a simple user question07:06
holycowno cli07:06
ElwynHey, anyone able to spare a sec to help me? I have an IDE drive with some data on t, that is corrupted. My windows PC wont even get past post with it installed, so I have booted off this liveCD. The drive shows up, but wont mount, it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27631/  Any ideas on how to recover this data?07:06
mneptonholycow: alt-f207:06
holycowlets actually try to answer his goddamend question?07:06
UtterMassacretonyyarusso, thanks very much07:06
holycowmnepton, shtup, now you are not just annoying but stupid07:07
holycowhelp the user, give the user the answer they are expectiing07:07
UtterMassacrelet's keep it nice here people07:07
holycowdon't question the users motivation, gently push them in the directio nof the right answre if they are really misunderstanding stuff07:07
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Eroickjust plain CLI (no X) is taking all but one meg of my RAM. Fluxbox will be interesting. Which package is the XServer?07:08
mnepton_holycow: before you dismiss me and my ideas as "stupid," you might want to first have a look at my hostmask, and then read the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct07:08
sethkEroick, There are many packages  that comprise X07:08
sethkmnepton, plus he's wrong and you are correct in this particular case.07:09
atom_how do you increase the font size of the text in here?07:09
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sethkatom_, depends on which IRC client you use.07:09
sethkthen look at text box,07:10
sethkinput box, etc.07:10
UtterMassacreatom_, if you're using XChat it's Edit/Preferences07:10
atom_got it. :)07:10
atom_so hard on the eyes the default is07:10
atom_whats a good gui based ftp program for linux?07:11
ElwynNoone? :(07:11
atom_igloo good?07:11
rbilatom_ nautilus07:11
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rbilspring cleaning comes early07:12
atom_netsplits still happen to linux users ? :P07:12
Elwynwtf was that? lol!07:12
sethkatom_, there are other IRC clients, although I prefer xchat of the ones I've tried.07:12
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Elwync'n'p:    Hey, anyone able to spare a sec to help me? I have an IDE drive with some data on t, that is corrupted. My windows PC wont even get past post with it installed, so I have booted off this liveCD. The drive shows up, but wont mount, it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27631/  Any ideas on how to recover this data?07:13
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tonyyarussognopgnip: The world ended.07:14
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rcarrHe said he HAD xserver-xorg07:14
lars30ok so when I first installed this OS they keyboard preference pane had lots of choices in it, and my numpad worked... now neither.07:14
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit07:14
rcarr"startx" doesn't start it?07:14
mnepton_holycow: i'm not part of GNOME Nautilus team, just a GNOME sysadmin07:14
sethkElwyn, appears that it isn't an NTFS partition.07:14
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holycowmnepton, just a thought07:14
rcarr...yay netsplits07:14
iamtherictemper temper07:14
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iamthericEroick, you need alot more than just that07:14
iamthericEroick, did you try startx?07:14
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UtterMassacreeveryone is quitting :(07:14
sethkElwyn, mount doesn't think so, in any event.07:14
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Eroickiamtheric: yeah, no dice. I got xserver-xorg07:14
iamthericlike fireworks07:14
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit07:14
gnu2it2FYI i was trying to reinstall a sun box, the help over at #solaris is worthless. i like #ubuntu much better. you folks rock in my book07:14
UtterMassacrercarr, what?07:14
iamthericEroick, maybe just install thorugh apt and let it figure it out?07:15
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sethkElwyn, it's not the codepage, there is just a problem with the file system07:15
rcarruttermassacre: Everyone was quitting because it was a netsplit07:15
Eroickiamtheric: install what?07:15
rcarruttermassacre: Read what ubotu said07:15
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iamthericEroick, maybe gnome07:15
Elwynsethk: is there a way to fix the filesystem back to NTFS?07:15
sethkElwyn, if it is NTFS, boot windows an use the windows tools to repar07:15
UtterMassacrercarr, oh ok07:15
iamthericEroick, maybe or fluxbox07:15
Eroickiamtheric: no, i am installing fluxbox with X07:15
UtterMassacrercarr, that ubotu is cool07:15
Eroickiamtheric: how do I get X07:15
ub12I have just deleted and repartitioned a hard drive with an old unused Debian sytem on it. How do I get Grub to stop to listing the old bootimage at bootup?07:15
iamthericEroick, yeah...07:15
Eroickiamtheric: like, so I can do startx07:15
sethkElwyn, if it's ntfs, and it's merely corrupted slightly, then booting windows will give you some tools you can use on it.07:15
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sethkElwyn, is that what you meant to ask?07:16
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atom_can i get an expert x64 comment on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281358 ?07:16
Elwynsethk, which tools are those? i am not familiar with anything like that07:16
rbilgot my cpu pegged out07:16
UtterMassacresethk, windows is a funny OS07:16
iamthericEroick, it should register as a dep for any wm07:16
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about window - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:16
iamthericEroick, just get gnome or kde or any other random wm and it will get x as a dep07:16
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sethkElwyn, you can get to them through their disk administrator.  they also have command line one, I believe scandisk is its latest incarnation.07:17
zeroinchey guys how do i dualboot ubuntu with windows xp already installed07:17
Eroickiamtheric: why do that? i have limited disk space07:17
Elwynaaaa, lol, scandisk. *snorts*07:17
iamthericEroick, how much?07:17
iamthericEroick, less than 40mbs?07:17
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iamthericEroick, just get flux through apt07:17
Eroickiamtheric: i did07:17
rcarrzeroinc: Do you realize how many thou\sands of resources there are on that, available through google, and within the install itself?07:18
rbildarn it, now I gotta defrag my Sea Drive07:18
iamthericEroick, x should be gotten as a dep07:18
sethkiamtheric, install the gnome desktop or KDE desktop, let it take care of X for you.  You can always uninstall it later, although there really isn't a reason to uninstall.07:18
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Elwynsethk, and what if my system stops at POST with the drive in, giving me an error on bad sectors or something like that? does that mean I dont have it set to slave properly?07:18
iamthericsethk, i wasnt the one with the question!07:18
Eroickiamtheric: it wasn07:18
rcarrResults 1 - 10 of about 12,100 for "dual boot ubuntu" windows.07:18
sethkEroick, if windows was installed when you installed linux, the boot loader installation will find windows and add it to the boot menu.07:18
sethkiamtheric, well, don't you know anyway?  :)07:19
iamthericwow retardicon07:19
brian98I'm liking edgy07:19
iamtherici do07:19
UtterMassacrezeroinc, have you got Ubuntu on a CD?07:19
at0micso is this gui interface called the "x server" enviroment?07:19
iamtherici never asked a question07:19
Eroicksethk: what? Im not using windows07:19
sethkElwyn, check jumpering.  If you have an EIDE cable (one black, one grey, one blue connector) jumper the drives for Cable Select07:19
Elwynallright, thanks07:20
Elwynil give it a go07:20
sethkEroick, if you aren't using windows, why are you messing with ntfs?07:20
Eroicksethk: umm, i am not07:20
iamtheriches not!07:20
iamthericgod damn07:20
UtterMassacrezeroinc, have you got Ubuntu on a CD?07:20
ub12ok I solved my own problem: I ran "sudo update-grub -y".07:20
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Eroicksethk: I want to get X to work. I am installing xubuntu-desktop.07:20
Eroickthen usijng fluxbox07:20
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sethkEroick, sorry, you are right, I confused you with the file system problem guy.07:21