[12:01] <Digital_Pioneer> Normally I'd head straight over to #ndiswrapper, but nobody's around.
[12:01] <t0mz>  kitche: how i can skip the perms on the disk.. i got the error "access denied" ??
[12:01] <willwork4foo> hiya! I'm trying to get a netboot install of Dapper working, and for some reason I can't seem to connect to any ubuntu archive mirrors???? I get as far as the "choose a mirror of the Ubuntu archive" screen, I choose my country (I've also tried a few others), I then ping an archive (such as gb.archive.ubuntu.com) and press enter for no web proxy (there isn't one) - and I get a red screen saying "Bad archive mirror"
[12:01] <willwork4foo> can anyone shed any light here?
[12:01] <jojoman02> does ubuntu come with support for using dial-up internet? (if so, how do i use/configure it)
[12:02] <willwork4foo> if I go into a shell, I can do ifconfig -a and see my network interface is configured properlyt
[12:02] <hss> can i install xgl-compiz on ubuntu 6.06tls
[12:02] <RogerBacon> hi, can anybody here can compile libusb-0.1.12 for me ? when i compile it i receive this : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp/configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:02] <willwork4foo> and I can ping it
[12:02] <Digital_Pioneer> jojoman02, Have you looked at KPPP? I think that's a default package.
[12:02] <silox> My Gizmo Client crashes when I try to make a call, whats whrong? I have the latest version..
[12:02] <t0mz> ianmacgregor: when i try to clone a disk that runs AIX i got the "access denied" error, so.. anyone knows how skip that?
[12:02] <agent> jojoman02: yes it does...
[12:02] <willwork4foo> does anyone have any ideas?
[12:02] <agent> silox: ask gizmo :)
[12:03] <rabautz> willwork4foo: You can ping the archive server?
[12:03] <conreyt> willwork4foo: you can ping the site?
[12:03] <jojoman02> Digital_Pioneer: no, i haven't, i will, any gnome apps u know that come default in ubuntu (not kubuntu)
[12:03] <silox> agent: do they have a irc channel?
[12:03] <willwork4foo> I can ping the archive server from my windows desktop yes
[12:03] <Digital_Pioneer> jojoman02, Sorry, I'm a KDE fan. I use Kubuntu... :\
[12:03] <jojoman02> agent: well?
[12:03] <willwork4foo> but not from the netboot install on the target box - ping is not part of the netboot image
[12:03] <agent> silox: no idea... they do have a forum... does your client work at all? does it crash?
[12:04] <willwork4foo> I am installing ubuntu on an IBM X20 thinkpad with no floppy / cdrom
[12:04] <agent> silox: the thing is, gizmo is not open source so its not really easy for anyone to help you
[12:04] <conreyt> willwork4foo: but you've got a ifconfig cmd option?  Is it using dhcp?
[12:04] <phaedra> jojoman02,  Have you tried wvdial?
[12:04] <willwork4foo> conreyt: I can ping the laptop
[12:04] <RogerBacon> hi, can anybody here can compile libusb-0.1.12 for me ? when i compile it i receive this : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp/configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:04] <agent> silox: hence why i suggest gizmo forum... they are the only ones that really know their own client
[12:04] <kitche> tomz: you can't you have to do sudo dd
[12:04] <conreyt> willwork4foo: is it dhcp?
[12:04] <willwork4foo> conreyt: the network link on the laptop works fine
[12:04] <agent> jojoman02: hold on... working on it :)
[12:04] <jojoman02> phaedra: how do i use that? type it in terminal?
[12:04] <jojoman02> agent: thankz
[12:04] <anon32> RogerBacon, if you fail a sanity check, your system has problems
[12:05] <willwork4foo> wait a sec
[12:05] <phaedra> jojoman02,  use apt-get or synaptic....
[12:05] <silox> agent: like i said, it crashes when i try to make a call to someone, it makes the ringtone then it hangups...
[12:05] <willwork4foo> ok - still trying to work this out - still no luck
[12:05] <conreyt> is it dhcp or staticly set?
[12:05] <jojoman02> phaedra: kind of useless without internet, don't you think?
[12:05] <conreyt> willwork4foo: is it dhcp or staticly set?
[12:05] <^Alan^> i love it!
[12:05] <RogerBacon> anon32 : what i do ? im running ubuntu from the live cd ...
[12:05] <nicolas0265> #kubuntu-fr
[12:05] <agent> silox: try starting from terminal and see what error it gives... otherwise you really have to ask gizmo people...
[12:05] <willwork4foo> conreyt: it HAS TO BE DHCP because it was a PXE boot!!!!!
[12:06] <phaedra> jojoman02,  It's on the ubuntu install disk.
[12:06] <anon32> RogerBacon, that's why
[12:06] <phaedra> jojoman02,  Just install from there
[12:06] <jojoman02> phaedra: ok, cool, it's called vwdial, is it gui or term?
[12:06] <silox> okey yeah good idea, i will try the gizmo forum if it doesnt work
[12:06] <^Alan^> can i help some people out here? ill be happy to..i know my way around ubuntu a good bit
[12:06] <agent> jojoman02: what kind of modem do you have? built in? a pci card? usb?
[12:06] <jojoman02> agent: pci
[12:07] <conreyt> willwork4foo: are you sure that your pxe boot is coughing up the correct dns?
[12:07] <agent> silox: just so you know... there are open soure sip clients (ubuntu has ekiga - there are also more out there)
[12:07] <RogerBacon> anon32 : why ? i have compiled libgphoto2 without any error ...
[12:07] <willwork4foo> conreyt: ah. wait a second...
[12:07] <haploid_> ok, I have 2 identical printers, connected by usb to an ubuntu box.  they are BOTH mapped to /dev/lp0.  wtf?
[12:07] <silox> agent: not with record support :(
[12:07] <phaedra> jojoman02,  Can't remember now...  I haven't used it in quite a while.  Have had broadband for years here...  ;)
[12:07] <agent> jojoman02: is it a hardware modem or software?
[12:07] <anon32> RogerBacon, I'll build libusb for you, but it probably won't work right
[12:07] <willwork4foo> :)
[12:07] <jojoman02> agent: it's a broadcomm
[12:07] <phaedra> jojoman02,  I do believe it's a gui though.
[12:07] <RogerBacon> anon32 : tanks :D !!!
[12:08] <willwork4foo> lemme try this now...
[12:08] <jojoman02> agent: soft i believe
[12:08] <agent> jojoman02: i dont know what that means :)
[12:08] <conreyt> willwork4foo: and you were raising your voice for nothing eh?
[12:08] <agent> jojoman02: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:08] <graveson> i am copying some data files to a dvd but i just cannot lay out the files in the order i want to . I have even labelled the files using numbers (title) but still no go,any idea how i can get around this ?
[12:08] <agent> jojoman02: that has explanation on soft modems
[12:08] <willwork4foo> conreyt: frustration will do a lot of unpleasant things to people :) sorry conreyt
[12:08] <jojoman02> phaedra: cool, sadly some parts of the word (like india) still use dial up
[12:08] <anon32> RogerBacon, you'll need to dcc me the source though
[12:08] <Evaso2> any news on new ati bugs... edgy is quite uninstallable for normal user
[12:08] <anon32> or give a link
[12:09] <willwork4foo> nope. it STILL doesn't work.
[12:09] <kitche> willwork4foo: what are you trying exactly
[12:09] <PixelhateD> Hey all
[12:09] <phaedra> jojoman02,  There are lots of places where broadband isn't avilable but should be...  Just use synaptic and install wvdial...
[12:09] <andej> hey
[12:09] <conreyt> willwork4foo: and DNS is correctly set as well as default GW in your config?
[12:10] <anon32> RogerBacon, um... did you here me?
[12:10] <RogerBacon> anon32 : yes
[12:10] <anon32> winmodems make me afraid of upgrading :-(
[12:10] <conreyt> willwork4foo: just walking through from the ground up willwork4foo..... :)
[12:10] <RogerBacon> anon32 : how i send you a dcc ?
[12:10] <emmettshear> I'm having trouble getting camorama to work..error is: "checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gdk-pixbuf-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10 gconf-2.0 libglade-2.0) were not met:"
[12:11] <andej> can anyone tell me why windows starts to load but then quickly bsods and my comp restarts?
[12:11] <anon32> RogerBacon, forget that, can you give me a link to where you got libusb?
[12:11] <willwork4foo> ok - trying something else
[12:11] <emmettshear> (Requested 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10' but version of GTK+ is 2.8.20) How can I update gtk to be 2.10 instead of 2.8?
[12:11] <silox> okey fuck gizmo ^^ anyone know i can record voip calls (i use Twinkle SIP), i have two soundcards and run Ubuntu 6.10
[12:11] <anon32> emmettshear, you need edgy
[12:11] <emmettshear> anon32: ok, how do I do that/what does that mean?
[12:11] <jojoman02> agent: thankz a lot
[12:11] <willwork4foo> :)
[12:11] <jojoman02> phaedra: thankz a lot
[12:11] <emmettshear> !edgy?
[12:12] <anon32> emmettshear, you need to add the edgy eft repositories - go to #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <phaedra> jojoman02,  np....
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <willwork4foo> let's see how this goes...
[12:12] <^Alan^> edgy elfe
[12:12] <agent> jojoman02: good luck with that modem
[12:12] <^Alan^> *elf
[12:12] <ompaul> !language
[12:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:12] <amicrawle> hey guys just updated my hardware how doi get my nvidia driver back ?
[12:12] <RogerBacon> anon32 : i PM you
[12:12] <anon32> RogerBacon, ok
[12:12] <RogerBacon> *send a pm
[12:12] <^Alan^> who's doin bad language?
[12:12] <willwork4foo> yes. or substitute sweary words for things like... um... common kitchen implements.
[12:12] <fatsheep> just do the same thing you did to enable the driver
[12:12] <amicrawle> what was that
[12:12] <jojoma> Does ubuntu support intel centrino wireless? if so is it default what do I have to do extra?
[12:12] <graveson> i am copying some data files to a dvd but i just cannot lay out the files in the order i want to . I have even labelled the files using numbers (title) but still no go,any idea how i can get around this ?
[12:12] <willwork4foo> what the ROASTING TIN is going on with my system? (example)
[12:12] <amicrawle> enable nvidia
[12:13] <fatsheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28drivers%29%7C%28nvidia%29
[12:13] <conreyt> willwork4foo: this is the article I used to PXE boot some of our laptops at work: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[12:13] <willwork4foo> conreyt: it's working now
[12:13] <willwork4foo> :)
[12:13] <agent> silox: http://www.twinklephone.com/ - but i don't think you can record using twinkle... maybe some other application
[12:13] <silox> How can I record VOIP SIP Calls in Ubuntu 6.10? I use Twinkle as SIP Client and have two soundcards....
[12:13] <willwork4foo> just got it working :):):):):)
[12:13] <amicrawle> and do i need to update my kernal from p3 to p4
[12:13] <silox> agent ok thx
[12:13] <amicrawle> or am i fine
[12:13] <AdamMK> how do i change the splash image for just one user? i've figured out that changing /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml changes the  splash for all users, but i need to change it for one user.
[12:13] <conreyt> willwork4foo: what was it?
[12:14] <willwork4foo> conreyt: I had made a mistake in my dhcp config file. a stupid one.
[12:14] <willwork4foo> meh
[12:14] <willwork4foo> fixed now
[12:15] <conreyt> willwork4foo: cool :)
[12:15] <silox> hmm so i youst need to install the Bugdows to record SIP VOIP Calls eh?
[12:15] <kitche> silox: or use a asterisk box to do it for you
[12:15] <jojoman02> if a modem shows up in HAL it's installed or just detected?
[12:16] <silox> kitche okey explain that a bit more please :)
[12:17] <agent> silox: maybe use a program like http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ to record the conversation "in real time"... especially since you have 2 sound cards
[12:17] <silox> agent: yeah but it complains about "soundcard in use" :/
[12:18] <dodgyville> Hello
[12:18] <agent> silox: use your second sound card :)
[12:18] <JsonT> how to get universal something something to install apps?
[12:18] <willwork4foo> Dapper is the latest stable release of Ubuntu, isn't it?
[12:18] <willwork4foo> just checking
[12:18] <DrKuha> how do install ati drivers?
[12:18] <^Alan^> yes it is willwork4foo
[12:18] <anon32> willwork4foo, yes, but edgy is at release candidate, so it's probably stable too
[12:19] <willwork4foo> ok
[12:19] <silox> agent: then i will only get the sound of one direction :/ not both parts..
[12:19] <dodgyville> I just upgraded to 6.10, when I run glxgears, I get  "Xlib: extension "GLX"  missing on display ":0:0" " - I have an nvidia card and I had the binary drivers installed in 6.06.
[12:19] <RogerBacon> anon32 : chek your PM
[12:19] <anon32> RogerBacon, what PM?
[12:19] <PixelhateD> Info for 83.142.53.172:27040
[12:19] <PixelhateD> Name: Moppys Fun Surf CSS Server - HLStatsX
[12:19] <PixelhateD> Map: surf_10x_final
[12:19] <PixelhateD> Game: Counter-Strike: Source
[12:19] <PixelhateD> Players: 2/13
[12:20] <PixelhateD> Sorry, bad alias.
[12:20] <agent> silox: or if you really want to do this the quick and easy way (but the not so cool way) is plug the cable from your first soundcard output (one you use voip) into your second soundcard record/input and record using audacity or any other program the second sound cards input port
[12:20] <RogerBacon> anon32 : private message
[12:20] <anon32> RogerBacon, didn't get one
[12:20] <anon32> if you're unregistered, freenode will stop you from sending PMs
[12:21] <andej> hey, I'm using grub to dual boot but I've never been able to load windows since I installed ubuntu - it starts loading but then restarts - does anyone know why?
[12:21] <agent> silox: im sure you can figure something out... im out of ideas :)
[12:21] <willwork4foo> how clever is Ubuntu - I remember installing Kubuntu on an iBook, and was quite impressed by the way it managed to successfully put the laptop on standby when I closed the lid, and wake it up again when I opened the lid - I'd quite like to get that working in Ubuntu
[12:21] <RogerBacon> anon32 : strange, do you have started to compile libusb ?
[12:21] <PPAAUULL> One question, if I upgrade to Ubuntu Edgy, when it gets released will I have to do another dist upgrade or will it just be like normal updates?
[12:21] <willwork4foo> does Ubuntu do this as well? or is it a Kubuntu-added cleverness
[12:21] <anon32> RogerBacon, don't know where to get the source :-(
[12:22] <PPAAUULL> I am mean if I upgrade now
[12:22] <^Alan^> ubuntu has to have something that does it im sure...kubuntu is just a graphics pack to ubuntu that i know of
[12:22] <RogerBacon> anon32 : http://libusb.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable
[12:22] <willwork4foo> ^Alan^cool thanks
[12:22] <anon32> RogerBacon, got it, I'll send you the built but not installed result (use make install)
[12:22] <conreyt> PPAAUULL: you'll be running that distro, updates will be all that is nessec. for that version
[12:22] <^Alan^> dont take my word for int now!
[12:22] <^Alan^> lol
[12:22] <^Alan^> it
[12:23] <anon32> RogerBacon, 0.1.12?
[12:23] <DrKuha> how do install ati drivers?
[12:23] <PPAAUULL> ok
[12:23] <RogerBacon> anon32 : yes
[12:23] <JsonT> it says that I need universial something with apt-get, where to download?
[12:23] <willwork4foo> ^Alan^: No probs. I'm installing Dapper now on my laptop - we shall see how it fares. Slackware 11 didn't spend long on there
[12:23] <conreyt> willwork4foo: It should work as well.
[12:24] <^Alan^> i dont wanna give you false information and break your laptop
[12:24] <PPAAUULL> conrey, so if I do an upgrade now, when it is released final then it will do normal updates on my system?
[12:24] <^Alan^> id feel so bad
[12:24] <agent> silox: also, if you are getting a "sound card already in use" error that probably means that one or more of those programs are NOT using alsa... use alsa and you should not get that error
[12:24] <willwork4foo> Slackware is absolutely fantastic - if you want to tailor your system and customize absolutely everything and work on getting all sorts of stuff to work. I frankly haven't the time, and can't be bothered. if it doesn't work straight out of the box, chances are I won't want to use it
[12:24] <conreyt> willwork4foo: I've been happy with ubuntu on slower notebooks.....
[12:24] <^Alan^> but im pretty sure it would work
[12:24] <willwork4foo> :)
[12:24] <willwork4foo> which is why a friend told me to try Ubuntu
[12:24] <conreyt> PPAAUULL: yup
[12:24] <^Alan^> ubuntu rocks
[12:24] <PPAAUULL> ok
[12:24] <PPAAUULL> Thanks
[12:24] <^Alan^> i love the fact that its an installable live cd
[12:25] <willwork4foo> am I right in thinking also, that Ubuntu has the root password scrambled by default? and that any root-type behaviour is done through sudo?
[12:25] <^Alan^> try b4 you buy..well..sort of :)
[12:25] <conreyt> willwork4foo: I'd stick with ubuntu bit that's just my opinion....
[12:25] <willwork4foo> ^Alan^: yeah - except this laptop has no CDROM or floppy
[12:25] <jojoma> How do I go about creating my own custom live-cd?
[12:25] <^Alan^> sudo is your best bet
[12:25] <conreyt> willwork4foo: yes
[12:25] <willwork4foo> PXE installation > internet install is the way this is happenning
[12:26] <conreyt> willwork4foo: no USB?
[12:26] <willwork4foo> conreyt: what was the thinking behind that decision?
[12:26] <dodgyville> So, does edgy remove glx mode from X?
[12:26] <willwork4foo> conreyt: there is USB, but the laptop won't boot off a USB stick
[12:26] <willwork4foo> tried that
[12:26] <^Alan^> mine either hehe
[12:26] <conreyt> willwork4foo: There are USB CDROMS too lol
[12:26] <willwork4foo> only way to boot this laptop from external media is via PXE net boot
[12:26] <willwork4foo> conreyt: that would involve spending money.
[12:26] <^Alan^> so i said oh whatever forget it and went and ordered the cd from cononical
[12:26] <anon32> RogerBacon,
[12:26] <willwork4foo> don't have much of that.
[12:26] <conreyt> willwork4foo: so true so true
[12:26] <anon32> RogerBacon, building it now
[12:27] <RogerBacon> anon32 : tanks
[12:27] <^Alan^> anyways guys and girls
[12:27] <^Alan^> i shall talk to you later
[12:27] <willwork4foo> ttfn
[12:27] <DrKuha> how do i listen to mp3s?
[12:27] <RogerBacon> anon32 : afther that i will compile libgphoto2 (add my gigabeat s) ;D
[12:27] <anon32> RogerBacon, done, how do you want it sent/
[12:27] <conreyt> willwork4foo: My company is running a ton (~150) thinkpads.... of different generations... regular ubuntu is the only one that I've gotten loaded (with ease) on all of them
[12:27] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> DrKuha, I use xmms
[12:27] <rabautz> jojoma: apt-cache search bootcd
[12:27] <anon32> warning: no guarantee it'll work
[12:28] <RogerBacon> rapidshare ?
[12:28] <anon32> RogerBacon, screw that, I don't have a rapidshare account
[12:28] <DrKuha> where do I get codecs then?
[12:28] <^Alan^Away> theres no guarantee that any software will work :)
[12:28] <^Alan^Away> ubuntu does!
[12:28] <^Alan^Away> :)
[12:28] <conreyt> DrKuha: are you using Ubuntu?
[12:28] <RogerBacon> its free .... put it at a place you want
[12:28] <DrKuha> yeah, I'm using dapper drake
[12:28] <lostatc> when compiling software using a AMD Sempron processor are there any flags to set to optimize it for this processor?
[12:28] <anon32> before that, let's see if dcc works
[12:28] <killown> anyone know where has driver via igp s3g unichrome for xorg?
[12:29] <anon32> dialup*
[12:29] <conreyt> DrKuha: use the media player that it ships with.  very nice.
[12:29] <wikijeff> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to boot all of a sudden. It will get to the Starting System Log... part of the booting process, but then hangs. Recovery mode works, as does my windows boot which I'm using now. Any ideas?? Thanks.
[12:29] <Jobberwacky> new nvidia driver out - fixes security hole http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8776.html
[12:30] <RogerBacon> anon32 : now downloading :D
[12:30] <willwork4foo> I have to say, out of the different versions of Linux I've put on this IBM thinkpad via PXE, Ubuntu does appear so far to be the easiest to install (once I sorted my PXE server out)
[12:30] <DrKuha> yeah, rhythm box does not play mp3s, it looks like
[12:30] <anon32> !restrictedformats > DrKuha
[12:30] <DrKuha> I'll look there
[12:31] <anon32> never tried this dcc thing before, it doesn't sound efficient :-P
[12:31] <conreyt> DrKuha: use this site for rythmbox it will work for you : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:32] <jojoma> what is the defaut ubuntu irc client?
[12:32] <anon32> jojoma, irsii
[12:32] <gnomefreak> jojoma: your in it
[12:32] <gnomefreak> oh client
[12:32] <gnomefreak> gaim and irssi
[12:32] <anon32> you can then get your own (but avoid gnome-xchat)
[12:32] <conreyt> client!=channel lol
[12:32] <DrKuha> oh yeah, i've done taht
[12:32] <RNt> Is possible install an activeX reader for mozilla in linux?
[12:33] <anon32> RNt, no
[12:33] <dou213> anon32, why should he avoid xchat?
[12:33] <wikijeff> Anyone?
[12:33] <anon32> there's an extension, but it doesn't work too well
[12:33] <anon32> dou213, he shouldn't, just gnome-xchat
[12:33] <jojoma> thanks
[12:33] <Guest05956> oh my god.
[12:33] <Guest05956> 900 people..
[12:33] <Guest05956> you guys are from dalnet?
[12:33] <anon32> RogerBacon, you can obviously understand how bad dialup is :-(
[12:34] <anon32> Guest05956, and?
[12:34] <Guest05956> just curious.
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> Guest05956: Where?
[12:35] <Noor> tonyyarusso i asked, if anyone here was from dal.net?
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> Noor: Maybe someone is; I've never heard of it.
[12:35] <minerale> so I know there's this one package named regexplorer - but for whatever reason I can't see it, what repository is it in?
[12:35] <minerale> well, I see it in the debian repositories
[12:36] <anon32> RogerBacon, should be done sending now, at least it says so serverside
[12:36] <JohnnieWalker> noob question: i need to configure my kernel to get DRI working for my intel extreme graphics 2 chip.. never configured a linux kernel, can anyone start me off somewhere?
[12:36] <anon32> just unbz2, untar, and make install
[12:36] <willwork4foo> just a thought - this laptop's only got 128MB of RAM. that's probably not going to be enough for the system to work properly?
[12:36] <anon32> JohnnieWalker, #linux ?
[12:36] <morghanphoenix> what goes in the type, options, dump and pass sections of fstab?
[12:36] <JohnnieWalker> heh
[12:36] <RNt> is GLX swarp bugged or what?
[12:36] <anon32> willwork4foo, no, it won't - I recommend Xubuntu
[12:36] <morghanphoenix> I'm adding an external fat32 hdd
[12:37] <jojoma> conreyt: do any of the thinkpad models come w/ a built-in ethernet?
[12:37] <JohnnieWalker> anon32: let's see, i'm using ubuntu so i thought i'd ask here.
[12:37] <RogerBacon> anon32 : where is the file ....... i cant find it ! LOL
[12:37] <Noor> so you guys are official helpers of ubunto?
[12:37] <viator> try apt-cache search regex*
[12:37] <anon32> or perhaps Win2k (only windows version that competes with *nix)?
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> jojoma: Mine did.  Umm...
[12:37] <anon32> RogerBacon, err........
[12:37] <claviola> okay, this is a weird question, but... when I try to run "unrar" I get a warning that I should install either "unrar" or "unrar-nonfree" to have unrar on my machine.  The thing is, which program is displaying that message?
[12:37] <viator> then if you see what your looking for use the show command
[12:37] <anon32> RogerBacon, IRC client?
[12:37] <jrib> Noor: not really official, just anyone that can help out
[12:37] <conreyt> jojoma: yup most of um why?
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> jojoma: 2668-49U
[12:38] <RogerBacon> anon32 : xchat
[12:38] <Noor> jrib it was in official web site right..... its cool..
[12:38] <anon32> RogerBacon, should be .xchat2/downloads
[12:38] <anon32> /home/usrname/.xchat2/downloads*
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> claviola: Something new...are you on Edgy or Dapper?
[12:38] <jojoma> conreyt: well i lookin into getting some to play with jus to load linux on
[12:38] <jrib> Noor: right it's the official irc channel, I just mean for example you can idle here and help out too if you want
[12:38] <Noor> i want to visit help channel of this network.. which one is it?
[12:39] <RogerBacon> anon32 : not here .... i  dont understand !!!
[12:39] <TechSalvager> Noor, #freenode-social
[12:39] <anon32> RogerBacon, :-(((
[12:39] <conreyt> jojoma: if you're looking to "play around' with linux that model will certainly handle it lol
[12:39] <conreyt> jojoma: the 2668-49U is smokin'
[12:39] <claviola> tonyyarusso: yeah, edgy.
[12:39] <TraT0> Does DD suport 2 monitors (windows style)?It's crucial for me and I realy want to go to linux
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> claviola: Try asking in #ubuntu+1, they may be more aware of it (if you don't stumble on the developer of it).
[12:40] <jojoma> well actually im lookin for the older models
[12:40] <viator> is it a hidden file
[12:40] <conreyt> jojoma: it's got an integrated 10/100/1000 nic and internal wireless lol
[12:40] <anon32> RogerBacon, you could search your system for bz2 files
[12:40] <viator> you have to have it show hidden files
[12:40] <claviola> tonyyarusso: yeah, I just asked in #ubuntu-devel instead
[12:40] <TraT0> I had it already 6month but I needed 2 monitors
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> claviola: Hm, might work.
[12:40] <conreyt> jojoma: I'm using some old R51's that my work just phased out.  I get the leftovers lol
[12:40] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know the package I need to be able to watch online Windows Media videos, ie youtube.com?
[12:40] <TraT0> so I got back to win :(
[12:41] <Axord> Youtube is flash video
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> SpudDogg: I think youtube is flash.  Either way, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:41] <conreyt> SpudDogg: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:41] <morghanphoenix> must be flash, cause I can watch youtube and I don't have w32 installed
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> SpudDogg: Oh, and there's a beta of flash 9 for linux if you're interested
[12:41] <_azrael> SpudDogg: Youtube is flash.
[12:41] <jrib> claviola: what does this command say:  which unrar
[12:42] <Tampler> where is unrar
[12:42] <Tampler> path to unrar
[12:42] <Tampler> Thats which command mean
[12:42] <morghanphoenix> anyone able to help me with a fstab entry for a removable USB HDD?
[12:42] <anon32> morghanphoenix, sure
[12:43] <cello_rasp> to install, 'sudo apt-get install unrar' . no need for path, just use 'unrar somefile.rar'
[12:43] <anon32> removable drives should be automounted though
[12:43] <morghanphoenix> I have no idea what to put in past file system and mount point, it's a fat32 80GB external usb hdd
[12:43] <agent> morghanphoenix: just remember, fstab changed in edgy... it now uses those crazy id strings (for good reason, however)
[12:43] <RogerBacon> anon32 : i find it
[12:43] <morghanphoenix> I don't know what to add for type options dump and pass
[12:43] <morghanphoenix> I'm in dapper
[12:43] <RogerBacon> anon32 : but make show error
[12:43] <Brydenn33> anyone here use FrostWire?
[12:44] <RogerBacon> anon32 : dosnt work
[12:44] <agent> morghanphoenix: as anon32 said, you do not need your own fstab line, it should work when you plug it in
[12:44] <RogerBacon> anon32 : but tansk anyway :D
[12:44] <emmettshear> ok, I've successfully installed the driver for my usb webcam (at least, I think it's installed, since modprobe -l shows the .ko). Can someone explain to me how to mount my webcam so it shows up under /dev/video0?
[12:44] <jrib> Brydenn33: yes, but what is your real question?
[12:44] <morghanphoenix> It doesn't, I have to mount manually
[12:44] <agent> morghanphoenix: its no different than a usb stick... think of it as a REALLY HUGE usb stick ;)
[12:44] <anon32> RogerBacon, that's why I warned about using someone else's build
[12:44] <agent> morghanphoenix: are you sure its turned on?
[12:44] <LinuxHelp> With lighttpd, I put my .htm's in /var/www/, but where do I put my cgi scripts?
[12:44] <Brydenn33> jrib: my real question is how did you get it to work? i downloaded the latest version and cant get it to work
[12:44] <JsonT> okay. i have went to software preferences and pressed add and checked everything. but when i have refreshed i have gotten back to unchecked. what to do?
[12:45] <Brydenn33> it shows as being installed in Adept_Manager
[12:45] <roe> I can't get Xorg to display 1920x1280 on my dell 24incher it says  No valid modes for "1920x1280"; removing in /var/log any thoughts?
[12:45] <morghanphoenix> Yes, it's bus powered, not power switch or cords
[12:45] <Brydenn33> but the box never pops up
[12:45] <jrib> Brydenn33: are you on dapper?
[12:45] <morghanphoenix> and it manually mounts just fine
[12:45] <Brydenn33> i'm on Edgy
[12:45] <jrib> Brydenn33: edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 please (i'll help you out there)
[12:45] <Brydenn33> thanks jrib
[12:46] <morghanphoenix> but if it does auto-mount, which it only does every once in a while, it uses up a new space because it doesn't weant to release it's mount point when I unplug it.
[12:46] <anon32> morghanphoenix, all you need are devname, mountpoint, fstype, and defaults for the rest
[12:46] <Brydenn33> so jrib i assume you cant help?
[12:46] <Umesh> is there is a php.src package in Ubuntu like php.src.rpm on Redhat ?
[12:46] <morghanphoenix> vfat for fat32, right?
[12:46] <anon32> yea
[12:47] <jkku3> hey guys? what's the command to list the hardware on your computer?
[12:47] <morghanphoenix> is there a better way to make it always mount as /mnt/ext-hdd?
[12:47] <agent> jkku3: there are different ways to do that, one is lshw
[12:47] <anon32> jkku3, go to /proc and just read the files
[12:47] <emmettshear> after you've installed a driver for a webcam, after plugging it in should it just be recognized? or do I have to do something else?
[12:48] <viator> try running gqcam for the webcam
[12:48] <anon32> morghanphoenix, yes, just mkdir /mnt/ext-hdd and set that as mount point
[12:48] <jkku3> what about lsdev?
[12:49] <rabautz> Umesh: apt-get source php5 <- can not test at the moment if package is named like that
[12:49] <agent> jkku3: lsdev is not a command that i know of :)
[12:49] <agent> jkku3: just type ls and press tab twice it will list all ls commands if you want that
[12:50] <jkku3> i'll go with lshw
[12:50] <morghanphoenix> Okay, it's telling me that a device that's mounted on /mnt/ext-hdd is also mounted as /media/PHOENIX
[12:50] <agent> jkku3: there are specfic commands and /proc/ for more details... for example, lsusb shows usb devices, cat /proc/cpuinfo gives you cpu info, etc.
[12:50] <anon32> morghanphoenix, is it?
[12:51] <morghanphoenix> of course, /media/PHOENIX is not in the mount readout
[12:51] <morghanphoenix> but properties says it's mounted there
[12:51] <anon32> morghanphoenix, can you post your fstab to pastebin?
[12:51] <anon32> heck, paste the result of mount -l there too
[12:52] <hikenboot> hello all I have already looked at the wiki...nothing i do seems to enable 3d accelleration on my nvidia fx 5200 video card ..anyone able to help
[12:52] <anon32> question: how can I allow people to write to my mount point... but not delete it?
[12:52] <morghanphoenix> !pastebin
[12:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:52] <kitche> hikenboot: did you install the nvidia binary drivers?
[12:52] <hikenboot> yup
[12:52] <kitche> hikenboot: you should have 3d acceleraton then unless you mean direct rendering
[12:52] <dou213> if i plan to install xgl, would it be rentable to set up gdesklets and xfce4-terminal?
[12:53] <kitche> hikenboot: but you have to change your xorg.conf so it uses the nvidia driver
[12:53] <hikenboot> it works and even works with beryl and emerald but the 3d acceration doesnt wokr
[12:53] <hikenboot> sorry direct rendering
[12:53] <hikenboot> I did that already
[12:53] <emmettshear> I see my webcam under lsusb (Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0471:0329 Philips) and I have compiled and installed the pwc driver (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/pwc/pwc.ko) ... what's the final step I need to make it work?
[12:54] <morghanphoenix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27583/
[12:54] <kitche> hikenboot: I just had ot change the driver for my direct rendering to work so you tried glxinfo |grep direct and it says no?
[12:54] <ciscosurfer> emmettshear: turn it on
[12:54] <emmettshear> haha, ciscosurfer, thanks
[12:54] <emmettshear> I tried that :-P
[12:54] <Matamouros> Can anyone use evolution with tsocks?
[12:54] <emmettshear> it's plugged in and not working; any ideas how I can trouble shoot from there?
[12:55] <ciscosurfer> emmettshear: never hurts to point out the obvious...;-)
[12:55] <kitche> emmettshear: you might have to modprobe pwc
[12:55] <morghanphoenix> everything looks right there, just in properties of ext-hdd it says mounted on /media/PHOENIX
[12:55] <c|int> hello people.. maybe someone can seriously, or as many people that can, help me figure out why I"m having issue with my nvidia agp, I did, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx, is there something I'm suppose to do and trigger it, I remember before I did, sudo nvidia-glx enable or something, I also have books too, if I can't get help
[12:55] <ciscosurfer> c|int > !pastebin
[12:55] <emmettshear> kitche: ok, I just did that...modprobe didn't return an error but the webcam still doesn't work
[12:55] <c|int> btw, I'm testing with edgy eft :)
[12:55] <roe> anyone have a modeline for the Dell 2407fpw
[12:55] <Linuturk> the command "sudo oem-configure-prepare" isn't working!!!!
[12:55] <Umesh> rabautz, I want to change php4 spec and rebuild like I did in RH, is there is a way I can do in debian
[12:56] <bun-bun> c|int# check the topic
[12:56] <c|int> thanks ciscosurfer :)
[12:56] <Linuturk> the command "sudo oem-configure-prepare" isn't working!!!!
[12:56] <c|int> I went out drinkin last nite, after some smoke too, because I was highly fustrated, I even checked, and edited /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <c|int> :(
[12:57] <cello_rasp> how lol
[12:57] <c|int> how?
[12:57] <willwork4foo> can someone explain to me how :{}{ :|:&}; works? (NOBODY RUN IT - IT'S A FORK BOMB AND IT WILL SCREW YOUR SYSTEM)
[12:57] <c|int> I had to change some of the mode lines up, because I know what my nvidia is capable of ,
[12:57] <JosefK> c|int: I've noticed a kind of chicken/egg problem in Edgy with nvidia.  it's best to manually replace the Driver "nv" with Driver "nvidia" line in your xorg.conf
[12:57] <viator> wth
[12:57] <c|int> oh
[12:57] <c|int> holy smokes.. : O
[12:57] <c|int> ; P
[12:58] <ciscosurfer> willwork4foo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forkbomb
[12:58] <hikenboot> kitche yes it says no
[12:58] <c|int> hehe, thanks JosefK, maybe that will help lool
[12:58] <c|int>  ; )
[12:58] <JosefK> c|int: otherwise, nvidia-glx-config won't add Driver "nvidia" because it can't load the module, and module won't load because it doesn't say Driver "nvidia" in the config file
[12:58] <cafuego> JosefK: It created a script function called ':'.
[12:58] <c|int> yeah I noticed
[12:58] <cafuego> willwork4foo even
[12:58] <rhican> hey is there a possibility to generate/get the kernel .config of the precompiled ubuntu kernels, so that i can start using my own kernel built from source without too much trouble?
[12:58] <JosefK> rhican: they're all in /boot
[12:59] <cafuego> willwork4foo: Then it calls :() over and over :-)
[12:59] <rhican> JosefK, cool tnx
[12:59] <c|int> I'm not noob lol.. I been working with linux since 2004, and as well with windows.. I run Windows XP Pro VLK, my edition from IT, and College, corperate people :P.. inside, via vmware workstation , and 5.5 btw. sure fixed alot of issues, :)
[12:59] <ciscosurfer> c|int: a whole 2 years?  my gosh!
[12:59] <c|int> edgy other than what I had to do manually, I just didn't change nv, to nvidia, but I can
[01:00] <anon32> c|int, sure... after all, I wouldn't want to say I use VLK because it's easy to warez either
[01:00] <c|int> hee, well I hav'nt read all the books I got, and so on.. :-)
[01:00] <c|int> anon, it isn't
[01:00] <c|int> Robert Morris College, Peoria, IL, come see me :)
[01:00] <anon32> isn't easy to warez, or isn't the reason?
[01:00] <compengi> can someone help me to compile gaim beta 4?
[01:00] <c|int> its not a hacked edition, cough :-)
[01:00] <anon32> compengi, I suppose, why?
[01:00] <JosefK> I'm sure everyone has a few legit windows licenses they aren't using from all the hardware we alpha geeks buy?
[01:01] <anon32> c|int, the great thing about VLK is that it has no activation :-)
[01:01] <compengi> anon32: i want to install gaim beta 4 on my os
[01:01] <ciscosurfer> compengi: google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=compile+gaim+beta+4&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[01:01] <c|int> there is an activation, but I don't have to register if I dont' want too, anon, and I work with Microsoft Gold Partner wombats anyways ;)
[01:01] <anon32> compengi, well, what's the difficulty?
[01:01] <c|int> and they ask for my consultant advice, with linux systems to evaluate,
[01:01] <compengi> anon32: i don't know the steps how to compile and install =/
[01:02] <LjL> compengi: then can't you live with beta 3? :P
[01:02] <c|int> no point to prove anything to anyone on the net .. when they don't see the truth :)
[01:02] <anon32> c|int, um... the corporate does *not* have an activation
[01:02] <anon32> !modem
[01:02] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:02] <^Alan^> thanks anon32
[01:02] <^Alan^> lol
[01:02] <c|int> anon.. the 1 I have.. I have to enter product key, then it is up to me, to register with microsoft or not, its because we work with alot of systems, and we strip out what we don't need.. cough ocugh
[01:02] <compengi> LjL: i had beta 3 before i formated my os and reinstalled it now i'm running gaim 1.5
[01:02] <emmettshear> ok, so now the webcam's light turns on, I guess that's useful
[01:03] <kitche> !offtopic
[01:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:03] <anon32> c|int, huh
[01:03] <LjL> compengi: ok, still can't you use the beta 3 packages? are they too buggy?
[01:03] <anon32> kitche, thank you, now politely stop that
[01:03] <c|int> although, I can just create a custom image if I want, and use my Software ACronis True Image, whatever I need, to make an image of an install, dont' matter, the entire disk, eh a virtual disk image as wel, etc
[01:03] <compengi> LjL: beta 3 has alot of bugs
[01:04] <hikenboot> kitche, you still there
[01:04] <LjL> !compile > compengi
[01:04] <c|int> I just had an nvidia question.. gee, thanks for adding your input.. :)
[01:04] <c|int> thanks, JosefK, btw, ;)
[01:04] <anon32> I never could figure out what acronis did..
[01:04] <JosefK> c|int: np's :)
[01:05] <c|int> sure was fun, to get a copy of Mandriva 2007 PowerPack as well, and strip that, :)
[01:05] <c|int> any trigger eh?... enable etc?
[01:05] <emmettshear> how can I tell if the webcam is working?
[01:05] <c|int> JosefK: , should I do?
[01:05] <emmettshear> aka what program will read it and display the images/
[01:05] <c|int> or just change nv to nvidia,
[01:06] <c|int> all the refresh rates are right, and I got the correct amount of memory the agp should be using, manually inputed it,
[01:06] <c|int> 131072
[01:06] <compengi> LjL: i'm downloading the cvs package
[01:06] <LjL> emmettshear: camorama perhaps
[01:06] <kitche> hikenboot: yes I was playing tremoulous a bit
[01:06] <c|int> although it appears, it just isn't using its native driver.
[01:06] <LjL> compengi: then i guess you'll have to run "autoconf" before being able to run "./configure"
[01:07] <hikenboot> well I a posting my logs for someone in another chat room he thinks he can help
[01:07] <c|int> oh and yes.. java doesn't seem to be in any extra repositories.. erm. maybe I checked something wrong.. or need to add something :-)
[01:07] <compengi> LjL: i didn't get it
[01:07] <JosefK> c|int: I can't offer unbiased advice on Mandriva
[01:07] <anon32> leaving..
[01:07] <LjL> compengi, "./configure" is a compilation step
[01:07] <c|int> nah, I'm not asking about that lmao
[01:07] <XpLiciT> do i need to install flash player on the ubuntu server in order to view swf remotely through a browser?
[01:07] <JosefK> ah :P sorry, what was the problem?
[01:07] <c|int> so.. it being on "nv" instead of "nvidia" is causing probs eh?
[01:08] <viator> emmettshear qkcam or kopete even
[01:08] <JosefK> c|int: well, 'nv' is the closed source driver.  the logic of nvidia-glx-config needs fixing, it should update xorg.conf first _then_ try loading the module, and revert the config if it doesn't work
[01:08] <compengi> LjL: i know, but what did you mean by saying i have to run autoconf before ./configure
[01:08] <JosefK> c|int: *nv is the open source driver, not the closed source one
[01:08] <c|int> hee he
[01:09] <kitche> XpLiciT: yes
[01:09] <c|int> dam commercial proprietary hardware, got to luv em eh JosefK :)
[01:09] <c|int> and to think, someday I want an SGI so bad.. :)))
[01:09] <LjL> compengi: i meant what i said :-) when you get stuff from CVS, the "configure" script has usually not yet been generated, and you must generate it by running "autoconf"
[01:09] <c|int> workstation that is..:))
[01:09] <JosefK> c|int: it could be worse, you could have a radeon..
[01:09] <c|int> lol
[01:10] <viator> gqcam
[01:10] <viator> i meant
[01:10] <c|int> and I was thinking about getting 1.. erm.. but I sure do like nvidia.. :)
[01:10] <c|int> I'm just going wait to get a 512 ddr video card :)
[01:10] <c|int> probably going , pci express,
[01:10] <c|int> its a must.. :- )
[01:10] <Phuzion> Alright, my machine isn't using DNS servers?
[01:11] <Phuzion> Why?
[01:11] <Phuzion> That first line should be a statement, by the way
[01:11] <c|int> question is, how long should I wait on ubuntu to support more latest technology . provided to the people :-)
[01:11] <willwork4foo> Phuzion: because it doesn't know about them?
[01:11] <willwork4foo> Phuzion: do me a favour - cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:11] <willwork4foo> what's in there
[01:11] <waltn> may i ask a question?
[01:11] <Phuzion> !ask
[01:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:12] <c|int> JosefK: , what you think.. : P
[01:12] <Phuzion> search WorkGroup
[01:12] <Phuzion> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:12] <waltn> when I use the logout menu hibernate button, what causes the system to come out of hibernate?
[01:12] <Phuzion> Turn it on
[01:12] <compengi> LjL: when i'll begin compiling i would probably need your help, can you provide it?
[01:12] <c|int> seems that waltn, has an inquiry on the point of this channel, and was just being polite? :)
[01:13] <Phuzion> Hibernate is turning off the computer, so you have to turn it back on
[01:13] <waltn> then it reboots to a clean session, not where i left it
[01:13] <Phuzion> Hmm
[01:13] <LjL> compengi: maybe
[01:13] <|thunder> waltn; a light sneeze
[01:13] <Phuzion> willwork4foo:  Any ideas?
[01:13] <JosefK> c|int: that depends, if you're submitting a report you'd probably recommend migrating hardware to a platform that's definitely supported over time too
[01:13] <lib8264q> hello channel
[01:13] <compengi> LjL: i hope so :)
[01:13] <waltn> lol, |thunder
[01:14] <JosefK> c|int: the hardware support here's as good as any other distro, it's just tougher to get all those rpm'd third-party drivers (because everyone uses fedora, right?) to install easily
[01:14] <waltn> if hibernate is not what i want, how does one tell ubuntu to sleep?
[01:14] <|thunder> waltn; Phuzion is right. it caches the ram and all power is killed. gonna need to hit the power button.
[01:14] <lib8264q> can someone tell me if there is a program that i can use to  make a .mov file from a mixture of .mp3 and .jpg
[01:14] <XpLiciT> installing flashplayer-nonfree failed.  i'm not sure whether to add the PLF or Canonical repositories.
[01:15] <XpLiciT> i added the PLF.  but apt-get update failed
[01:15] <|thunder> waltn; dont know. i never wanted it too, so.
[01:15] <XpLiciT> GPG error: ...  the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[01:15] <Phuzion> lib8264q: any video editing software, then if it doesn't directly output to MOV, then a converter should finish things off
[01:15] <Phuzion> I don't specifically know of any video editing software for Linux, unfortunately
[01:15] <c|int> be surprised what everyone else uses, JosefK :)
[01:16] <rcarr> lib8264q: Try "apt-cache search slideshow"
[01:16] <lib8264q> im new to  *nix ... any advice on program that i could possibly use ????
[01:16] <c|int> vision is, take mac software, compiled on intel architectures, then compile and port to linux, systems, that wouldn't that be the ideal thing :)
[01:16] <Phuzion> So, does anyone have any ideas about how to resolv (pun intended) my DNS problem?
[01:17] <JosefK> c|int: well, there's GNUstep
[01:17] <waltn> Phuzion&thunder: thanks...will keep googling :)
[01:17] <c|int> now wouldn't*
[01:17] <c|int> yep, I know
[01:17] <c|int> I been on alot.. :)
[01:17] <kitche> Phuzion: I tend to use custom dns servres instead of what my router sends me
[01:17] <JosefK> Phuzion: if you're using DHCP, it should be automagic, if not, you can add them to /etc/resolv.conf?
[01:17] <c|int> I do have, a licensed copy of Mandriva 2007 PowerPack
[01:18] <Phuzion> What is the syntax for one of those?
[01:18] <JosefK> Phuzion: check /etc/nsswitch.conf too
[01:18] <LjL> JosefK, Phuzion: i think that (at least on kubuntu), thanks to the "resolvconf" package that is installed by default, /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten automatically at every boot
[01:18] <c|int> I was having issues with my external hard drive,  LACIE 2.0 usb/ firewire 80 GB , 7.05 oz :P
[01:18] <XpLiciT> !flash
[01:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:19] <^Alan^> im gonna be back in a bit..gonna go copy ubuntu a few dozen times..im distributing it at my college...got them all wanting it!
[01:19] <c|int> remember back in the days, where ubuntu, didn't mount foriegn partitions :)
[01:19] <JosefK> LjL: sadly true, to get around that I usually add a post-up script to eth* to manually append/overwrite resolv.conf
[01:19] <LjL> JosefK: i just removed resolvconf, for that matter =)
[01:19] <c|int> see ya ^Alan^
[01:19] <Phuzion> JosefK:  It's manually entered into the resolv.conf file
[01:19] <c|int> ;)
[01:19] <Phuzion> And it still doesn't work
[01:19] <Phuzion> Yet this machine has literlally the exact same resolv.conf file
[01:19] <bintut> anyone can help me here? why is it that my openoffice.org in my ubuntu dapper setup doesn't recognize a wrong spelling word when i click the check spelling icon?
[01:19] <JosefK> Phuzion: just to check, you've put the IP address, not a domain name into resolv.conf?
[01:19] <Mariele> whatever ..
[01:19] <Phuzion> Of course
[01:20] <Phuzion> Yeah, I'm gonna put dnsresolver.org into there
[01:20] <LjL> Phuzion: and, on that line, you've put the word "nameserver" before the IP?
[01:20] <Phuzion> lol
[01:20] <Phuzion> Yes
[01:20] <c|int> JosefK: , I'm going to see you on.. ubuntu, edgy eft, I was doing some things on my windows system, because I involved with programming for ms systems as well.. ;)
[01:20] <Phuzion> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:20] <AsheD> ooo, that wasn't good
[01:20] <JosefK> Phuzion: ;) could you paste the error from nslookup?
[01:20] <LjL> Phuzion, what does nslookup have to say?
[01:20] <bsnider> kitche: whcih DNS servers do you use?
[01:20] <c|int> I'm going get that nvidia agp working great, thanks to you , I hope :)
[01:20] <kitche> bsnider: I use the two root servers :)
[01:21] <Phuzion> Uhh, it goes directly into >
[01:21] <JosefK> Phuzion: nslookup www.google.com (for example)
[01:21] <Phuzion> oh, haha
[01:21] <Phuzion> thanks, I wasn't sure how to use it
[01:21] <Phuzion> connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[01:21] <LjL> Phuzion, try "nslookup www.google.com 192.168.1.1"
[01:22] <MetaMorfoziS> by'all
[01:22] <Phuzion> Probably the same thing
[01:22] <Phuzion> yeah
[01:22] <Phuzion> same thing
[01:22] <Phuzion> connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[01:22] <LjL> Phuzion: does pinging 192.168.1.1 succeed?
[01:22] <Phuzion> yeah
[01:22] <c|int> JosefK:
[01:22] <AsheD> my X just crashed?
[01:22] <c|int> you think I should use, nano to edit, or gedit?
[01:22] <Phuzion> Hold on
[01:22] <rcarr> cjing: vim
[01:22] <rcarr> cjint*
[01:23] <c|int> vim eh?
[01:23] <JosefK> no emacs!  no wait, yes, vim.
[01:23] <Phuzion> What the hell
[01:23] <c|int> clint
[01:23] <Phuzion> It doesn't work anymore
[01:23] <rcarr> err c|int
[01:23] <jkku3> hey what's the site that let's you copy and paste stuff into it?
[01:23] <rcarr> Only took me three tries
[01:23] <LjL> !paste
[01:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:23] <XpLiciT> anyone else having problems apt-get update'ing because of http://packages.freecontrib.org ?
[01:23] <compengi> !samba
[01:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:23] <JosefK> LjL: other machines on your network are using 192.168.1.1 as a DNS server?
[01:23] <c|int> thanks :)
[01:23] <LjL> JosefK, that was for Phuzion i think
[01:23] <c|int> for the pastebin too :P
[01:23] <JosefK> yes, yes it was
[01:23] <c|int> remember to tell me, paste when I get back :)
[01:24] <Phuzion> All of them are
[01:24] <c|int> or , I will do , !paste
[01:24] <c|int> as well :)
[01:24] <fsancho> hi all
[01:24] <GhostFreeman_> How do I restart iptables?
[01:24] <LjL> Phuzion: if it's not pinging, then the problem is not the DNS itself, though
[01:24] <fsancho> anyone knows how can i customize a gnome screensaver??
[01:24] <Phuzion> Alright, so ping 192.168.1.1 works now
[01:24] <LjL> GhostFreeman_: iptables is a command - you don't restart it
[01:24] <JosefK> Phuzion: out of interest, does 'lsmod | grep sky2' show anything?
[01:25] <Phuzion> nothing
[01:25] <GhostFreeman_> um, I used firehol to unload iptables, i'd like to reload what was already there
[01:25] <Phuzion> what does that do?
[01:25] <JosefK> not sky2 bugs then.  if you can ping it now, does 'nslookup www.google.com 192.168.1.1' work now?
[01:25] <JosefK> just wondering if you had a sky2 network card
[01:25] <LjL> Phuzion: try nslookup www.google.com 192.168.1.1 again while making keeping a ping running in another shell, and making sure every ping goes through
[01:25] <XpLiciT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27587/  following the advice on line 4 does not help :/
[01:25] <Phuzion> Yeah, it'
[01:25] <Phuzion> It worked
[01:26] <XpLiciT> err line 3
[01:26] <Phuzion> name google,com, address 72.whatnot
[01:26] <LjL> !gpgerr > XpLiciT
[01:26] <GhostFreeman_> um, I used firehol to unload iptables, i'd like to reload what was already there
[01:26] <Phuzion> don't ask repeatedly
[01:26] <XpLiciT> thank you LjL
[01:26] <LjL> Phuzion: then you seem to have an intermittent connection
[01:26] <JosefK> Phuzion: it looks like maybe just your connection went down then
[01:26] <compengi> LjL: can i compile using ./configure; make; make install steps?
[01:27] <monofonik> how do i resize the boot partition on my mac without reformatting? i want to dual boot os x and ubuntu on my powerbook g4
[01:27] <Phuzion> part of the problem is probably that my switch down here thinks that everything wants to use the 192.168.2.* subnet
[01:27] <Phuzion> route returns the first line being 192.168.2.0
[01:27] <Phuzion> for some reason
[01:27] <LjL> compengi: maybe. first thing, you must have build-essential installed. then, if you've got a "configure", run it, otherwise you need to run "autoconf" first. if the configure succeeds, proceed with "make". if it doesn't succeed (which is likely), you'll have to see which -dev packages are required
[01:28] <GhostFreeman_> How can I recover/reload whatever was sitting in iptables after being unloaded by Firestarter/FireHOL?
[01:28] <Phuzion> Alright, apparently I can ping by IP address, even outside of the network
[01:29] <Phuzion> But this machine's like a fat kid in a buffet
[01:29] <Phuzion> It won't go outside for anything
[01:31] <JosefK> Phuzion: route
[01:31] <JosefK> Phuzion: are you sure you're using DHCP? :/
[01:31] <^Alan^> so far so good
[01:31] <Phuzion> I have a static IP address on purpose
[01:31] <Phuzion> this machine is a server
[01:31] <JosefK> Phuzion: there should be an entry "192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0"
[01:31] <Phuzion> Yeah, but it's 192.168.2.0
[01:31] <Phuzion> Why?
[01:31] <compengi> LjL: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim-2.0.0beta4.tar.bz2
[01:31] <compengi> Password:
[01:31] <compengi> Reading package lists... Done
[01:31] <compengi> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:31] <compengi> E: Unable to find a source package for gaim-2.0.0beta4.tar.bz2
[01:31] <JosefK> Phuzion: we usually leave our servers on DHCP and have them get a specific IP address using their Mac
[01:32] <Phuzion> I prefer manual configuration
[01:32] <LjL> !paste > compengi
[01:32] <JosefK> Phuzion: well, whichever subnet that machines on.  if it's 192.168.2.0, and you're machine has an IP in 192.168.1.0, make sure the subnet's class b
[01:32] <LjL> compengi: where did you get that command from? that's wrong.
[01:32] <Phuzion> How do I change that?
[01:32] <JosefK> s/subnet/netmask/
[01:32] <compengi> LjL: from the site you gave me
[01:32] <Phuzion> I just want it on 192.168.1.0
[01:32] <compengi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[01:32] <JosefK> Phuzion: which is the address of the router?
[01:33] <Phuzion> no
[01:33] <Phuzion> 192.168.1.1 is the router address
[01:33] <LjL> compengi: yeah, it specifies "apt-get build-dep <package>" though. "gaim-2.0.0beta4.tar.bz2" on the other hand is a file -- a tarball specifically
[01:33] <^Alan^> 192.168.1.1 is a linksys router am i correct?
[01:33] <Phuzion> Haha, yeah, but not really a linksys anymore
[01:33] <LjL> compengi: you may, however, want to run "sudo apt-get install build-dep gaim". this will install the dependencies that are required for the Dapper version of Gaim. with some luck, they'll be the same that Gaim 2.0 needs
[01:33] <Phuzion> WRT54G v.3 to be specific
[01:33] <^Alan^> thought so :)
[01:33] <kitche> ^Alan^: it can be anything really
[01:33] <JosefK> Phuzion: hmm, the routing's fine then.  can you "ping 64.233.183.103"
[01:34] <Phuzion> yeah
[01:34] <Phuzion> its getting it
[01:34] <JosefK> heh, cat /etc/resolv.conf - see if it's empty again
[01:34] <Phuzion> same as it was before
[01:34] <Phuzion> search WorkGroup
[01:34] <Noob1> hi how can i tell what version of unbuntu im running?
[01:34] <compengi> LjL: some error
[01:34] <Phuzion> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:34] <compengi> same*
[01:35] <JosefK> Phuzion: and you still can't "ping www.google.com"?
[01:35] <^Alan^> it should be on your sleeve of your cd
[01:35] <Phuzion> nope
[01:35] <c|int> hey  JosefK, you still here?
[01:35] <JosefK> c|int: indeed
[01:35] <Phuzion> noobl/noob1, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <Noob1> ^Alan^:  my teacher gave me a burnt one
[01:35] <c|int> want me name the nvidia driver.. instead of "nv" to "NVIDIA"  or "nvidia"  doesnt' matter?
[01:35] <Phuzion> It should have the name of your distro pasted all over there
[01:35] <AdamKili> anyone know the terminal command for the Desktop Switcher?
[01:35] <viator> is your wrt54g firmware buggered
[01:35] <^Alan^> um....im not sure
[01:35] <LjL> compengi: "unable to find source package for gaim"? post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin.
[01:35] <^Alan^> let me see really quick Noob1
[01:35] <JosefK> Noob: lsb_release -a
[01:35] <Noob1> ok
[01:35] <seerking1> anyone here experienced using auto text complete in OpenOffice?
[01:35] <viator> i got a version of ddwrt that was
[01:36] <^Alan^> ok
[01:36] <^Alan^> nevermind then
[01:36] <^Alan^> lol
[01:36] <compengi> LjL: i said E: Couldn't find package build-dep
[01:36] <c|int> 3ddesk
[01:36] <viator> and had similar problems
[01:36] <compengi> it'*
[01:36] <c|int> or hee, 3d tab :)
[01:36] <andersja> I've got a pretty weird bug in the installer in on the release candiate
[01:36] <seerking1> anyone here experienced using auto text complete in OpenOffice?
[01:36] <c|int> or say it.... with speech recognition :)
[01:36] <compengi> !paste
[01:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:36] <LjL> compengi: ah sorry, my bad, i gave you a wrong command. "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim".
[01:36] <Noob1> ^Alan^: so is there a way ir what
[01:36] <viator> anderversja file a bug then heh
[01:36] <c|int> JosefK: , so, doesn't matter?
[01:36] <LjL> compengi: not sure how i managed to get "install" to end up there.
[01:36] <gbu> Hello I have a ATI Radeon 9200 PRO card.can you please tell me how to install 3d drivers for it?
[01:36] <JosefK> Phuzion: sorry, but without actually seeing your setup, I'm out of ideas.  I'm guessing it's something you've missed setting up the iface by hand, but I can't be sure
[01:37] <compengi> lol
[01:37] <c|int> rename "nv" to "NVIDIA" or "nvidia"
[01:37] <seerking1> how can I use the auto text complete in OpenOffice?
[01:37] <LjL> compengi: i'm just used to typing "apt-get install something" i suppose :-)
[01:37] <JosefK> c|int: nvidia is the 'better', official NVidia one
[01:37] <JohnnieWalker> god
[01:37] <JosefK> c|int: supports 3D acceleration etc.
[01:37] <JohnnieWalker> i hope this speeds up my GUI
[01:37] <JohnnieWalker> because it's slow as nuts
[01:37] <bintut> anyone can help me here? why is it that my openoffice.org in my ubuntu dapper setup doesn't recognize a wrong spelling word when i click the check spelling icon?
[01:37] <viator> i would make sure i have the newest firmware version and reinstall it
[01:37] <c|int> k, brb.. hee, thanks alot.. rebooting X :)
[01:37] <seerking1> LjL: any ideas?
[01:37] <viator> then work out
[01:37] <compengi> LjL: nvm :)
[01:37] <bintut> i tried setting up US English language format in "format > character" and "tools > options > languages > language settings" to US english too but still the check spelling doesn't work.. :(
[01:37] <LjL> seerking1: no. i don't even have openoffice installed.
[01:37] <Phuzion> JosefK:  I can set you up with SSH access to the machine, if you want to take a look around
[01:38] <bintut> anyone please?
[01:38] <kitche> bintut: are you sure the word is spelled wrong?
[01:38] <bintut> kitche: yes
[01:38] <bintut> kitche: there's no such US English word as bintut, right?
[01:38] <JosefK> Phuzion: it's 00:38 here - I'm gonna kip soon, but out of interest, if you can still ping 192.168.1.1, does 'nslookup www.google.com 192.168.1.1' still work?
[01:39] <Phuzion> yeah
[01:39] <Phuzion> both still work
[01:39] <JosefK> but 'nslookup www.google.com' doesn't?
[01:39] <JosefK> I'd check the syntax of your /etc/resolv.conf
[01:39] <compengi> LjL: btw what irc client are you using?
[01:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> bf2 in ubuntu eh?
[01:39] <BubbaTheLoveSpon> lol
[01:39] <Phuzion> right
[01:39] <Luke> does anyone know of a way to use the apache config to force  svn to go through the ssl virtual host using the "debian" config setup?
[01:39] <LjL> compengi: Konversation
[01:39] <Phuzion> is there a need for semicolons at the end or something?
[01:39] <kitche> bintut: bintut is a word
[01:39] <JosefK> Phuzion: you might've mis-spelt something, or maybe it's commented etc.
[01:39] <JosefK> Phuzion: no semi-colons
[01:40] <kitche> in reality bintut it's a place
[01:40] <Phuzion> Hmm
[01:40] <viator> bypass the router
[01:40] <Luke> does anyone know of a way to use the apache config to force  svn to go through the ssl virtual host using the "debian" config setup?
[01:40] <viator> use the preocess of elemintation
[01:40] <bintut> kitche: oh my..
[01:40] <JosefK> Phuzion: man resolv.conf - for more detail
[01:40] <Phuzion> Alright
[01:40] <gbu> how do i install 3d drivers for ati radeon 9200 pro?
[01:41] <compengi> LjL: i'm downloading gaim stuff
[01:41] <JosefK> Phuzion: I think you should remove that 'search' line btw
[01:41] <Phuzion> Why?
[01:41] <kitche> Phuzion: it will search for that then use the dns servers
[01:41] <Phuzion> Oh
[01:41] <JosefK> Phuzion: it's not for WINS/NETBIOS, it's for DNS.  ie. I'd put 'search germany.company.com company.com'
[01:42] <simpla> hi guys.  So about the nvidia driver security problem, I take it that is why its not working now?  (I just finished doing apt updates)
[01:42] <Phuzion> JosefK:  that was automatically in there
[01:42] <Phuzion> Uhhhg
[01:42] <JosefK> Phuzion: if you set your machines domain, it probably was, but isn't needed
[01:42] <AdamKili> does anyone know the terminal command for switching desktops?
[01:42] <c|int> its having problems
[01:43] <c|int> i had to.. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:43] <JosefK> c|int: hmm, you're using the nvidia-glx package?  if so, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:43] <chrismhampson> just downloaded 6.10 for my desktop - very nice it is too...apart from the disk admin missing! On a separate note, does anyone know a place where I can download old distros like suse 8.1?
[01:43] <simpla> yeah, ah i manually edited the xorg file and changed it back to the nv driver
[01:43] <c|int> yeah
[01:43] <c|int> shouldn't i be?
[01:44] <AdamKili> does anyone know the terminal command for switching desktops?
[01:44] <kitche> simpla: that security problem isn't really a big risk unless give people X sessions
[01:44] <Flannel> chrismhampson: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support, and I'm sure you can find older versions on the internet somewhere
[01:44] <JosefK> yes :) the details of the error'll be in that Xorg.0.log
[01:44] <Phuzion> JosefK:  How do I change that 192.168.2.0 line to be 1.0?
[01:44] <Phuzion> in route
[01:44] <XpLiciT> "Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available."  I'm using ubuntu server, firefox is not installed.  Should i install libflash-swfplayer instead? or first?
[01:44] <simpla> yeah but the packages are broken through apt. won't let me install nvidia-glx due to nvidia-kernel not being there
[01:44] <JosefK> Phuzion: actually, if you're on 192.168.1.0, that's the problem *slaps forehead*
[01:44] <Flannel> XpLiciT: you need to enable multiverse
[01:45] <Phuzion> No, I don't have any machines in the 2.0 subnet
[01:45] <JosefK> Phuzion: two secs, I'll check the manpage to adjust from solaris (last place I used route)
[01:45] <chrismhampson> Flannel: I've tried but it looks like the ftp servers i know have deleted everything but 10.0 10.1 etc
[01:45] <Phuzion> Alright
[01:45] <simpla> AdamKili, command is desktop name  , ie..    desktop Desk2 to change to desktop 2
[01:45] <XpLiciT> Flannel, which repository? or how?
[01:45] <c|int> what should I be looking for
[01:45] <kitche> Phuzion: didn't you say your gateway is 192.168.1.1?
[01:45] <^Alan^> wow..thats the quickest ubuntu has EVER installed
[01:45] <^Alan^> 5 minutes tops
[01:45] <Phuzion> yeah
[01:45] <AdamKili> simpla: ty
[01:45] <JosefK> route del 192.168.2.0
[01:46] <JosefK> Phuzion: route del 192.168.2.0
[01:46] <simpla> :)
[01:46] <Flannel> !tell XpLiciT about multiverse
[01:46] <Phuzion> no such process
[01:46] <Phuzion> alright
[01:46] <Phuzion> it's suddenly on 1.0 now
[01:46] <c|int> ubuntu still working slick, just not my 3d performance working good.. :(
[01:46] <Phuzion> i think this machine is possessed
[01:46] <Phuzion> It has some serious problems
[01:46] <AdamKili> simpla: bash: desktop: command not found
[01:46] <c|int> lmao @ possessed
[01:47] <JosefK> Phuzion: heh, I think it's just the network setup - does your router have an option to assign Mac addresses to specific IPs in the DHCP pool?
[01:47] <AdamKili> y is it called Mac address?
[01:47] <Phuzion> JosefK:  I have had this exact system up and running before on this same setup
[01:47] <AdamKili> did apple invent it
[01:47] <Phuzion> !google mac
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <Phuzion> !G Mac address
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about G Mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <viator> lol @ mac
[01:48] <AdamKili> !mac address
[01:48] <Phuzion> no one has a google bot in here?
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:48] <Flannel> No.  Phuzion, google it yourself
[01:48] <AdamKili> !mac
[01:48] <Phuzion> Damn
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <JosefK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_address
[01:48] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:48] <JsonT> i went to system preferences, i pressed at add, checked everything, closed and refreshed, but when I go back in the stuff i checked is not checked...
[01:48] <kitche> Phuzion: why have a google bot when it will be abused?
[01:48] <JsonT> software preferences
[01:48] <JsonT> i meant
[01:48] <c|int> JosefK: , any ideas?
[01:48] <marshall> hey guys, i keep getting this problem with gftp when i try to use SSH2 to access my server: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/212639
[01:48] <Phuzion> I go to channels that have them, and no one abuses them
[01:49] <viator>  media aceess cntrl
[01:49] <Phuzion> then again, I kickban people for doing shit like that
[01:49] <Phuzion> lol
[01:49] <Flannel> Phuzion: a google bot wouldn't be of any benefit to the channel.
[01:49] <c|int> Phuzion:
[01:49] <LjL> Phuzion: well, on a channel with an average of 900 people, what you just did is considered bot abuse...
[01:49] <JosefK> c|int: you'd have to paste the log, but my first guess would be typo
[01:49] <c|int> know anything about nvidia cards, as far as.. getting them to work properly, on testing, edgy ?
[01:50] <c|int> typo eh on my part eh?
[01:50] <JosefK> c|int: :P change the 'nv' to read 'nvidia' now, then try 'modprobe nvidia'
[01:50] <JosefK> c|int: if the module loads okay, then try restarting the X server
[01:50] <c|int> k, give me paste bin link plz
[01:50] <JosefK> !paste > c|lint
[01:50] <JsonT> anyone?
[01:50] <kitche> !paste
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:50] <c|int> oh okay lol :P
[01:51] <chrismhampson> can anyone help me register my nickname? I have no idea how to do it!
[01:51] <kitche> chrismhampson: /msg nickserv help
[01:51] <c|int> give me link plz.. :)
[01:51] <Phuzion`away> chrismhampson:  /nickserv register password email
[01:51] <kitche> c|int umm the link is right there
[01:51] <chrismhampson> Phuzion`away: thanks!
[01:51] <Phuzion`away> No prob
[01:51] <JosefK> nice to see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ working dandy under konqueror :/
[01:51] <simpla> adamkili you can just do control-alt-left or right to change desktops
[01:51] <Phuzion`away> Have fun with your +e
[01:52] <JsonT> hmm.. f*k this, ill fix it myself...
[01:52] <c|int> oh yeah, this would be big help.. how to view chm files on ubuntu :)
[01:52] <bsnider> a DNS delay happens with this router, unless icomment out the line that identifies it as a nameserver
[01:52] <JosefK> c|int: sudo aptitude install gnochm
[01:52] <c|int> what nice script, I need to install to view that :)
[01:52] <dou213> if i plan to install xgl, would it be wise to set up gdesklets and xfce4-terminal?
[01:52] <c|int> thanks :D
[01:52] <JosefK> np :)
[01:53] <LjL> !xgl > dou213
[01:53] <c|int> wow. aptitude is fixing my java insall :)
[01:53] <simpla> c|int, there is a CHM viewer for gnome
[01:54] <c|int> oh yeah?
[01:54] <c|int> I'm all ears :-)
[01:54] <LjL> c|int: actually, i think JosefK just told you about it
[01:54] <JosefK> !gnochm > c|int
[01:55] <justmike> I am a newbie and having a problem with the Update Manager.  When I try to run it, the error message shows: "Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time," but I don't know how to find (and kill, if needed) the other process that may be running (e.g., if Synaptic Package Manager is running, I can't see it).
[01:56] <JosefK> justmike: ps -ef | grep dpkg | wc -l
[01:56] <JosefK> justmike: does that show a number > 0?
[01:56] <jvai> justmike: sometymes that happens when u r running apt from the terminal, or have the update manager open whilst running synaptic
[01:56] <jvai> @ the same tyme
[01:57] <justmike> ok let me see if I can run the command in terminal -- hold on
[01:57] <hikenboot> anyone know what mesa packages I should not have for running nvidia-glx?
[01:58] <justmike> after the -ef, is that a pipe character (vertical bar) or the letter L?
[01:58] <JosefK> justmike: a pipe
[01:59] <marshall> can anybody help me with this?: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/212639
[01:59] <abo> how can I get the new flash 9 beta into my ubuntu?
[02:00] <ubuntumah> any bodu use wifi-radar
[02:00] <SeanTater> marshall: have you tried connecting in a more local fashion>?
[02:00] <ubuntumah> or wireless assistant
[02:01] <marshall> SeanTater, how do you mean? i want to be able to connect to my computer from any computer, not just the ones on the network
[02:01] <SeanTater> ubuntumah: yes, I did, occasionally, once -- but it seems pretty simple, what about it?
[02:01] <ubuntumah> I cant connect to my net by wifi-radar
[02:01] <justmike> I ran the command ... output was a 1 (one)
[02:01] <SeanTater> marshall, yes, but you may want to check and see if you can connect at all, before you get to the /from anywhere/
[02:01] <JosefK> justmike: sudo killall dpkg
[02:02] <SeanTater> ubuntumah: have you read the following link?
[02:02] <SeanTater> !wifi
[02:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:02] <izzyb_> abo: try searching at digg.com.  I seen an article there recently
[02:02] <marshall> SeanTater, i can connect on the windows computer using filezilla
[02:02] <SeanTater> ubuntumah: what ubotu said
[02:02] <JosefK> justmike: it seems to have crashed, you should be able to update after you kill it
[02:02] <abo> izzyb_, I found this file http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b1_installer_linuxplugin
[02:02] <SeanTater> marshall: okay -- then , do you have a router that that ssh server is behind?
[02:02] <izzyb_> abo something to the effect of installing flash in ubunto
[02:03] <izzyb_> er ubuntu even
[02:03] <justmike> dpkg: no process killed
[02:03] <abo> izzyb_, but I am afraid of installing it manually and breaking my system
[02:03] <marshall> SeanTater, yeah
[02:03] <JosefK> justmike: hmm, run just 'ps -ef | grep dpkg' this time
[02:03] <izzyb_> abo: I can't help you htere.  i haven't read the article, just remember seeing it
[02:03] <SeanTater> marshall: then have it foreward port 22 to that computer's local ip address
[02:04] <justmike> no quotes, I assume?
[02:04] <abo> izzyb_, ok thanks
[02:04] <JosefK> justmike: oh dear, it isn't running.  it's late, and that 1 was the grep command we were using
[02:04] <JosefK> justmike: meh, a reboot should fix it, but I need to get some kip
[02:04] <marshall> SeanTater, its forwarded
[02:04] <tadgada> Anyone knows how to install a dos image on a usb key when you only have linux available? I would like to update my bios.
[02:04] <ubuntumah> how can i install wlassistant
[02:04] <ubuntumah> ??
[02:05] <SeanTater> morshall: assuming you mean that you just did it, try connecting now
[02:05] <izzyb_> abo: http://www.digg.com/?s=flash+ubuntu
[02:05] <SeanTater> marshall: assuming you mean that you just did it, try connecting now
[02:05] <SeanTater> marshall: sorry, I got your name wrong the first time
[02:05] <de_ad2ME> hey linux newbie here, i just got an hp pavilion 6000t with Intel PRO/Wireless3945ABG w/Bluetooth and I'm having trouble getting wireless internet to work
[02:06] <tadgada> all dos image installers runs from dos or windows...
[02:06] <SeanTater> de_ad2ME: read the following:
[02:06] <SeanTater> !wifi
[02:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:06] <SeanTater> de_ad2ME: what ubotu saud
[02:06] <de_ad2ME> thanks
[02:06] <SeanTater> de_ad2ME: /said/
[02:06] <SeanTater> de_ad2ME: yw
[02:07] <jewbilee> can someone help me with wine?
[02:07] <SeanTater> jewbilee: try saying !wine
[02:07] <jewbilee> !wine
[02:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:08] <agent> where do i find older deb files no longer located on the ubuntu ftp?
[02:10] <de_ad2ME> wow it didnt work for the last hour and half and after reading that doc for 2 minutes it works
[02:10] <de_ad2ME> thank you very much SeanTater
[02:11] <tadgada> ok, i found my answer :) The ms-sys package will write all kind of ms mbr :)
[02:11] <tadgada> thank you all, good evening
[02:12] <compengi> LjL: i finished from downloading gaim stuff, what should i do next?
[02:13] <LjL> compengi: try "./configure"
[02:14] <AdamKili> what is the terminal command for switching desktops???
[02:14] <bsnider> why is the router listed as the first nameserver in resolv.conf?
[02:15] <compengi> LjL: it worked now doing make command
[02:15] <LjL> bsnider: because routers generally act as nameservers, i suppose
[02:15] <bsnider> LjL: is that a joke?
[02:16] <LjL> bsnider: why should it be a joke?
[02:16] <neemz> hey folks i've decided to start using linux more but I have one issue, i'm currently doing some large (8gb) downloads in azureus in windows, if I install azureus in linux can I continue them there?
[02:16] <LjL> bsnider, if you have a DSL router or some other sort of home router, it's extremely likely that it can, and does, act as a DNS nameserver.
[02:16] <bsnider> neemz: yes
[02:16] <oidia> what is the "extended" fdisk called?
[02:17] <xulund> cfdisk ?
[02:17] <neemz> can I continue them writing to the same NTFS disk? if I use this new fangled NTFS-3g thing?
[02:17] <^Alan^> i think its cfdisk
[02:17] <bsnider> LjL: routers do not run DNS servers
[02:17] <oidia> xulund: thanks :)
[02:17] <oidia> i forgot :P
[02:17] <bsnider> LjL: routers run DHCP servers
[02:17] <deltaman2> any one from egypt???????????
[02:17] <deltaman2> please
[02:17] <neemz> Or will NTFS-3G eat my hard disks?
[02:18] <LjL> bsnider: many routers can and do run DNS server. please try "nslookup www.google.com IP-of-your-router".
[02:18] <bsnider> LjL: that doesn't work
[02:18] <compengi> LjL: the make process takes time lol
[02:18] <^Alan^> it doesnt work LjL...nice try though :)
[02:19] <agent> anyone have a suggestion on how to finalize my jigdo iso when 9 debs are missing in the archives?
[02:20] <LjL> compengi: that's quite normal. it's compiling a huge program.
[02:20] <Mad3Max3> whats the deal with the nvidia drivers.. do they update via synaptic?
[02:20] <compengi> LjL: after the make command what should i do?
[02:20] <compengi> LjL: make install?
[02:20] <tsoler> hi
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> hi all
[02:21] <LjL> compengi: "sudo make install", or "sudo checkinstall" (after installing checkinstall) to be able to track the files it adds and later remove them, if needed
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> i have problem
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> ??????
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> any one can help me
[02:21] <tsoler> anyone know about google earth instalation?
[02:21] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: want to tell us the problem?
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> yes
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> my pc dosemn't work with media
[02:21] <ahmed-elmasry> ????
[02:22] <tsoler> lot of o people here
[02:22] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: try to keep your responses in one line, don't use the enter key as punctuation.  What kind of media?
[02:22] <tsoler> anyone keen with google earth?
[02:22] <ahmed-elmasry> all media in examples is working well
[02:22] <Mad3Max3> I was wondering. Sound worked from start in my comp but now i want to get my s/pdif to work. do I have to install drivers for the onboard nvidia soundcard?
[02:22] <jrib> tsoler: just run the installer
[02:23] <compengi> LjL: now install right?
[02:23] <tsoler> im very new to ubuntu
[02:23] <Mad3Max3> and in that case which drivers?
[02:23] <ahmed-elmasry> jrib : ok
[02:23] <tsoler> the bin is the installer?
[02:23] <LjL> compengi: look above, i just told you.
[02:23] <Mad3Max3> Nobody that has onboard soundcard made by nvidia?
[02:23] <ahmed-elmasry> jrib: vidio & sound
[02:23] <jrib> tsoler: http://earth.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=44713&  let me know if anything isn't clear on that page and I'll give you more detail
[02:23] <Mad3Max3> have it in my nforce chipset
[02:24] <tsoler> ok jrib i ll take a look
[02:24] <nickspoon> ahmed-elmasry:
[02:24] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: you need to be more specific.  Do all videos not have sound?
[02:24] <compengi> LjL: i did the command make install, now install command after it?
[02:24] <nickspoon> !mp3
[02:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:24] <Ragnaroek> Hello
[02:24] <agent> is there any possible way that i can read the contents of an iso thats in the archives in a mount -o loop kind of way (besides downloading the whole thing)??
[02:24] <nickspoon> !mp3 > ahmed-elmasry
[02:25] <LjL> compengi: no. if you already typed "sudo make install", you're finished.
[02:25] <ahmed-elmasry> jrib : i have ubuntu live cd
[02:25] <ahmed-elmasry> ok
[02:25] <ahmed-elmasry> all viseo in examples are working
[02:25] <compengi> LjL: oh then now i should close the gaim and open it again right?
[02:26] <LjL> compengi: not the same gaim. you should run the gaim binary that was installed -- and find out where it was installed. possibly /usr/local/bin/gaim
[02:26] <Mad3Max3> this blows :(
[02:27] <compengi> LjL: yes it's there
[02:27] <h2> so what's the scoop on automatix?
[02:27] <Ragnaroek> good
[02:27] <Mad3Max3> LjL, do u know?
[02:28] <tsoler> jrib: i open the terminal window is that right?
[02:29] <jrib> tsoler: right
[02:29] <LjL> bsnider, and ^Alan^: http://www.linuxjournal.com/comment/reply/8317/124855 ("Some home routers, which set themselves up as your DHCP and DNS servers"), http://www.tomfotherby.com/Contents/Home/Computing/routerInterface.html ("Your router can act as the DNS server for your network."), http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkProblemsBeginnersGuide (" Most routers can be configured to act as DNS servers for your local network")
[02:29] <tsoler> how do i navigate to a folder?
[02:29] <LjL> Mad3Max3, i haven't the slightest idea
[02:29] <jrib> tsoler: cd /path/to/folder     where did you download the .bin to?
[02:29] <LjL> compengi: then run it
[02:30] <tsoler> desktop
[02:30] <compengi> LjL: i did
[02:30] <compengi> ty
[02:30] <LjL> compengi: works?
[02:30] <compengi> yep
[02:30] <jrib> tsoler: so do 'cd ~/Desktop'  capitalization is important
[02:30] <Mad3Max3> LjL, so the installed drivers for sound in ubuntu is all I need.. no need for installing anything else.. how did u do on your machine?
[02:30] <compengi> LjL: now compiling new x-chat
[02:30] <LjL> Mad3Max3, i didn't do anything. sound just worked.
[02:30] <ArrenLex> Vim and GNU Emacs. Which features does each have that the other doesn't?
[02:31] <tsoler> is that cd ~/Desktop ?
[02:31] <LjL> oh my. ArrenLex, join #ubuntu-offtopic :-P
[02:31] <tsoler> ok one moment
[02:31] <ArrenLex> It's not ubuntu related? Hmm.
[02:31] <ArrenLex> Okay...
[02:31] <Renan_s2> ArrenLex, a lot
[02:31] <Renan_s2> most likely this will spark a flame war
[02:31] <LjL> ArrenLex, it's not a support question
[02:31] <ArrenLex> Okay.
[02:31] <ArrenLex> I don't want a flame war. That's why I didn't ask which is better.
[02:32] <compengi> LjL: can you look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27605/
[02:32] <c|int> I finally got it now, after some tweaking
[02:32] <LjL> compengi: sudo apt-get install libperl-dev
[02:32] <cello_rasp> is there anything like stickynots but for images
[02:34] <c|int> jos
[02:34] <tsoler> ok jrib
[02:34] <jrib> tsoler: ok all done?
[02:35] <tsoler> it asks mer now sothing about where to install it??
[02:35] <tsoler> insatll path?
[02:35] <c|int> guys
[02:35] <c|int> I finally got it :)
[02:36] <c|int> for some reason.. nvidia-glx got out of the system, imagine that, or was some kind of diff settings :)
[02:36] <tsoler> sorry it asks me the instalation path
[02:36] <jrib> tsoler: right, so you can install it in your home directory somewhere if you want
[02:36] <c|int> had to do alot of things.. remove xserver-xorg, and put back in
[02:36] <tsoler> and binary path
[02:36] <Mad3Max3> can't understand why everything has to be so darn complicated..
[02:37] <lostatc> How do you kill a process that you dont know the PID to?
[02:37] <tsoler> the default location is /home/tsoler/google-earth/  is that right?
[02:37] <jrib> tsoler: that will work fine
[02:37] <Mad3Max3> lostatc : type top
[02:37] <c|int> seems right tsoler
[02:37] <tsoler> ok
[02:37] <lostatc> I tried that
[02:37] <lostatc> I dont see it
[02:37] <lostatc> VLC was running
[02:37] <lostatc> I closed it
[02:38] <lostatc> and its still playing music
[02:38] <jrib> lostatc: pkill vlc
[02:38] <Mad3Max3> if there is a process runnin u will see it there
[02:38] <c|int> jrib
[02:38] <c|int> I finally got my nvidia agp working great with , edgy eft :)
[02:38] <lostatc> Tahnk you pkill vlc worked and no vlc was not listed under top
[02:38] <jrib> c|int: cool
[02:38] <compengi> LjL: i compiled xchat but how to make a short cut in applications>internet?
[02:39] <c|int> sure gave me a lot of problems. but going out drinkin last nite, and then smokin last,nite and today, helped the stress :)
[02:39] <ahmed-elmasry> ohhhhhh i'm here
[02:39] <LjL> compengi, i don't know, i'm not using Gnome. but i guess right click on the "Applications" menu should give you something.
[02:39] <lostatc> thanks guys
[02:40] <ahmed-elmasry> jrib
[02:40] <ahmed-elmasry> i have ubuntu live cd
[02:40] <ahmed-elmasry> ok
[02:41] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: ok, you probably just need codecs.  Did you take a look at the page that nickspoon had ubotu send you?
[02:41] <tsoler> jrib ok it is installed
[02:42] <ahmed-elmasry> i have instaled the latest ver. of real player
[02:42] <jrib> tsoler: great
[02:42] <ahmed-elmasry> put the same problem
[02:42] <tsoler> how do i run it though?
[02:42] <ahmed-elmasry> ?????
[02:42] <jrib> tsoler: did it create a shortcut in applications > internet?
[02:42] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: how did you install it?
[02:43] <tsoler> no
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to modify the mime type of a folder?
[02:43] <ahmed-elmasry> chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[02:43] <ahmed-elmasry> "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[02:44] <tsoler> i dont find it in applications > internet
[02:44] <jrib> tsoler: hmm, maybe it only does that if you install to /usr/local.  Well you can just do ~/google-earth/googleearth   and then create a shortcut for that
[02:44] <dr`venom> hey guys, I have been trying to install nvidia drivers and getting ubuntu to offer me a 1440x900. Unfortunately, I have failed so far. Can anyone here help me. This is my first time trying ubuntu. I am a windows and suse user, so I am not familiar with ubuntu.
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> !binarydriver > dr`venom
[02:44] <tsoler> i found it in my folder
[02:44] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: try typing 'real' and then pressing tab in a terminal
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> !fixres > dr`venom
[02:44] <jkku3> i have a question, my friend just installed ubuntu and is having touble mounting his FAT32 partition, can anybody help?
[02:45] <tsoler> but how can i run it jrib
[02:45] <dr`venom> cool
[02:45] <dr`venom> let me give that a try
[02:45] <jrib> tsoler: just type ~/google-earth/googleearth and press enter
[02:45] <tsoler> whats the .exe in linux?
[02:45] <ahmed-elmasry> in anormal user or root
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> tsoler, a file with +x
[02:45] <ahmed-elmasry> ????????????
[02:45] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: normal user
[02:45] <ahmed-elmasry> nothing happens
[02:46] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: press it twice
[02:46] <ahmed-elmasry> nothing
[02:46] <andy> is there a way to permantly mount a network folder with 'smbfs'?  Everytime i restart, I have to re mount...
[02:46] <RogerBacon> hey, i use LSUSB to find my Gigabeat S player ID ... : Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0930:0010 Toshiba Corp. What the adress yould like in libgphoto ?
[02:46] <ahmed-elmasry> :(
[02:46] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: I don't use realplayer, so I don't know what command it uses :/
[02:46] <ahmed-elmasry> k
[02:47] <ianmacgregor> andy: I just foundinfo on that earlier today. google for "hacking the nautilus tree view"
[02:47] <RogerBacon> exemple of a ID in libgphoto : {"Toshiba:Gigabeat",                    0x0930, 0x000c, 0},
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ahmed-elmasry, when you type real and press tab what you get ?
[02:47] <tsoler> it says it is running??
[02:47] <ahmed-elmasry> nothing
[02:47] <tsoler> but i cant see it
[02:47] <jrib> tsoler: what says what is running?
[02:47] <andy> Im not getting nice results with that search
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> ahmed-elmasry, then you got no .... real ?
[02:47] <andy> I dont know what to search for
[02:48] <ahmed-elmasry> ???
[02:48] <amicrawle> how do i turn on my  3com card 10/100  my duplex is off or on dont know witch  can any body help me please
[02:48] <ahmed-elmasry> i'll tray again
[02:48] <ahmed-elmasry> ok
[02:48] <gnu2it2> does edgy go production next week or so ?
[02:48] <tsoler> terminal:tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$ ~/google-earth/googleearth
[02:48] <tsoler> Google Earth appears to be running already. Please kill the
[02:48] <tsoler>  existing process, or delete /home/tsoler/.googleearth/instance-running-lock if this is an error.
[02:48] <tsoler> tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$
[02:48] <jrib> ahmed-elmasry: type 'hash -r'  and then try the tab thing again
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> ahmed-elmasry, that question been done ? sorry i thought you were trying to run real player
[02:48] <amicrawle> i use dapper kernal 686
[02:48] <tsoler> terminal says :tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$ ~/google-earth/googleearth
[02:48] <tsoler> Google Earth appears to be running already. Please kill the
[02:48] <tsoler>  existing process, or delete /home/tsoler/.googleearth/instance-running-lock if this is an error.
[02:48] <tsoler> tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$
[02:48] <viator> use the command prompt
[02:48] <jrib> tsoler: don't paste here, use pastebin
[02:48] <viator> close all applications
[02:48] <ianmacgregor> andy: See item 4 here: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/GnomeNautilus
[02:49] <Lam_> 800 MHz / 256 MB.  XFCE or KDE?
[02:49] <DigitalNinja> Anyone here use aircrack?
[02:49] <Dackel> i need help with qmake
[02:49] <amicrawle> use qmake
[02:49] <tsoler> it says google earth is  running already
[02:49] <amicrawle> kde
[02:49] <amicrawle> is better more eye candy
[02:49] <Dackel> in which do I find it
[02:50] <Dackel> +package
[02:50] <amicrawle> i use make and makeinstall
[02:50] <jrib> tsoler: ps -ef | grep google
[02:50] <ianmacgregor> Dackel: apt-cache search qmake  or open synaptic and search for qmake
[02:51] <tsoler> ok jrib
[02:51] <tsoler> thanx a lot
[02:51] <jrib> tsoler: what is the output?
[02:52] <tsoler> seems ok but slow
[02:52] <jrib> tsoler: oh ok so it is working now, yeah google earth has high requirements
[02:52] <tsoler> a prompt for missing font
[02:52] <tiredbones> I never had sound on my systems before, but duaghter needs it for school. I bought the book "Beg. Ubuntu Linux" because it has a section media. One of the reocurring messages I get is "totem could not startup". I'm not playnig movies. Does this have to be removed?
[02:53] <Dackel> thanks
[02:53] <jrib> tiredbones: do you get a more meaningful message if your run totem from the terminal?
[02:53] <tsoler> and something about needed updated driver
[02:53] <RMorris84> is it possible to make a folder in the file system?
[02:54] <RMorris84> im running out of room for my music and have space there i would like to store some stuff
[02:54] <jrib> RMorris84: yes, right click > create folder
[02:54] <jrib> in your home directory, that should work
[02:54] <tiredbones> jrib, to start do I enter "totem"
[02:54] <jrib> tiredbones: yep
[02:54] <black_13> is there a package for the serlook application?
[02:55] <joshier> How do I set the root password?
[02:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell joshier about root
[02:55] <black_13> passwd
[02:55] <joshier> and why isn't it in the help?
[02:55] <joshier> /black_13\: passwd what?
[02:55] <tiredbones> jrib, nothing happens!
[02:55] <agent> joshier: because you should use sudo, not root
[02:55] <black_13> sudo
[02:55] <black_13> passwd
[02:55] <[Daniel] > Does anyone know what to do about this: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Found
[02:55] <jrib> joshier: the wiki page ubotu sent you explains all
[02:55] <oidia> how did i view the sizes/empty space om my disks?
[02:55] <black_13> df
[02:55] <[Daniel] > I can't seem to apt-get upgrade my system :-(
[02:56] <RMorris84> jrib: i have my /home on one partition thats is getting full, and then the rest on another partition that isnt near full, where i want to create another folder to store music lol
[02:56] <[Daniel] > Just get lots of Err 302
[02:56] <jrib> RMorris84: oh I see, well just use 'sudo mkdir foo' in a terminal
[02:56] <oin1> hi all, anyone knows how to make an smp-kernel to boot in uni-processor mode?
[02:56] <joshier> /jrib\: If you have no internet, and you need to work out how to set the root password, how the hell can you find out?
[02:56] <black_13> oidia du --max-depth=1 -k | sort -n
[02:56] <tsoler> jrib do i need the terminal to run it everytime?
[02:56] <jrib> RMorris84: then you will probably want to use the chown command to give ownership to your user
[02:56] <oidia> ok, thanks
[02:56] <samson_86> hey all. having some problems with wifi. I was under the impression that dlink cards (mine is dwl-g520) worked fine straight out of the box, but it's not being recognized this time. found a page saying I should get madwifi but the instructions failed. running on ubuntu edgy server. any suggestions?
[02:56] <jrib> tsoler: no, create a new shortcut with that command
[02:56] <agent> [Daniel] : your package list is out of date, run sudo apt-get update
[02:57] <jrib> joshier: you don't need to set a root password
[02:57] <ianmacgregor> joshier: You're not supposed to set a root password, the root account is locked, you don't need to log into root at all. best to use sudo/gksudo
[02:57] <joshier> /jrib\: what if you have no internet, and you need to use ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <black_13> what im looking for is if serlook has been packaged into ubuntu
[02:57] <ianmacgregor> !serlook
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serlook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <agent> joshier: as everyone here is telling you... .you use sudo instead of root
[02:57] <Mad3Max3> Do I have to install anything to get s-pdif to work, got a Nforce chipset with a Realtek soundcard with spdif outbracket. I like to get digital sound out to my reciver?
[02:57] <jrib> joshier: again, you don't need a root password, you use sudo.  The ndiswrapper stuff is on the cd by the way
[02:58] <jvai> sherlock
[02:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell joshier about ndiswrapper
[02:58] <black_13> ianmacgregor i know its suse
[02:58] <black_13> in suse
[02:58] <black_13> i mean
[02:58] <jelly> Is /etc/lsb-release the one true way to detect ubuntu?
[02:58] <nrdb> with ghostscript there are lots of files in the fonts directory with weird names like b018035l.pfb how do I relate these to font names ?
[02:58] <[Daniel] > agent> When I run apt-get update I get lots of: "Failed to fetch ... archive.ubuntu.com ... 302 Found"
[02:59] <ianmacgregor> jelly: It's probably the best: lsb_release -a
[02:59] <[Daniel] > Is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[02:59] <agent> [Daniel] : your sources.list is wrong
[02:59] <joshier> /agent\: you cannot use ndiswrapper (installing a .inf driver) without the root because you need write access. Go ahead, try it for yourself.
[02:59] <agent> [Daniel] : 10 seconds ago i just synced archives.ubuntu.com so its not down :)
[03:00] <ianmacgregor> joshier: you can get write access if you use sudo
[03:00] <jelly> ianmacgregor: thanks!
[03:00] <[Daniel] > Hmmm
[03:00] <jrib> joshier: sudo foo, is the same as running foo as root
[03:00] <agent> joshier: again, use sudo...!
[03:00] <[Daniel] > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[03:00] <[Daniel] > Looks about right to me?
[03:00] <[Daniel] > I don't know a lot about Ubuntu though :)
[03:00] <joshier> /ianmacgregor\: i've gone through this tons of times before, yes you can use sudo as your username, but to use ndiswrapper and install a driver, you need root access
[03:00] <ianmacgregor> joshier: No, you don't. Tons of people have installed it using sudo
[03:01] <agent> joshier: your not using sudo correctly
[03:01] <joshier> ok, i'll bet you money on that, if you loose, you pay me money on my paypal account
[03:01] <agent> joshier: please read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:01] <jrib> lol
[03:01] <agent> lol
[03:01] <ianmacgregor> joshier: I'll bet you aren't using sudo correctly
[03:01] <jelly> whatever, one can always run sudo su - and get a clean root shell.
[03:01] <ianmacgregor> agent: Thank you
[03:02] <dr`venom> i've installed the nvidia driver but I get an error when I type in sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:02] <jrib> dr`venom: what error?
[03:02] <dr`venom> it says error you x configuration has been altered
[03:02] <dr`venom> and it says to do it manually
[03:02] <jrib> dr`venom: did you try doing it manually?
[03:02] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: Do it manually
[03:02] <dr`venom> so should I go to xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia?
[03:02] <jrib> dr`venom: yep, that's all that comand does
[03:02] <[Daniel] > Hmmm, seems to work now. Maybe it was a temporary network hickup.
[03:02] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: yes
[03:02] <dr`venom> I did it before and I had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:03] <tiredbones> jrib, From reading the man page it sound like totem is at the heart of any form of media on linux. Is this so?
[03:03] <dr`venom> lol
[03:03] <dr`venom> ok here we go
[03:03] <[Daniel] > Thanks for your help agent
[03:03] <dr`venom> lol
[03:03] <hondje> dr`venom: If you do that, also comment out loading the DRI module
[03:03] <dr`venom> dont know what comment out means
[03:03] <emmettshear_> What's the next step for debugging a usb device when you've installed the driver, and you can see the device in lsusb, but it still doesn't work?
[03:03] <hondje> dr`venom: put a # on the line
[03:03] <agent> [Daniel] : do you want me to send you a copy of my sources.list?
[03:03] <jrib> tiredbones: no, there are many alternatives.  Totem is just default.  When you said "nothing happens", did you just get dropped back to a prompt or did it hang?
[03:03] <[Daniel] > agent> Sure that'd be great
[03:03] <hondje> #       Load    "dri" for example
[03:03] <agent> [Daniel] : err... not send but i will paste it
[03:03] <agent> !pastebin
[03:03] <[Daniel] > agent> Sure
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:04] <[Daniel] > :)
[03:04] <tiredbones> jrib, it just dropped back to prompt.
[03:04] <agent> [Daniel] : also, just so you know archives.ubuntu.com is not down im downloading updates from it as we speak
[03:05] <[Daniel] > agent> Yeah it seems to be working now, I'm thinking it might have been a temporary network thing
[03:05] <jrib> tiredbones: ps -ef | grep totem         turn up anything?
[03:05] <ianmacgregor> !easysource > [Daniel] 
[03:05] <Mad3Max3> Do I have to install anything to get s-pdif to work, got a Nforce chipset with a Realtek soundcard with spdif outbracket. I like to get digital sound out to my reciver?
[03:05] <dr`venom> so, will it look like this: Driver   #"nvidia"
[03:05] <agent> ianmacgregor: nice :)
[03:05] <ianmacgregor> agent: :)
[03:05] <agent> [Daniel] : just in case: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27616/
[03:05] <dr`venom> sorry, i'm new at this!
[03:05] <agent> !easysource > agent
[03:06] <jrib> dr`venom: yes except there is no #
[03:06] <tiredbones> jrib,  5984  5567  0 21:05 pts/0    00:00:00 grep totem, this anything/
[03:06] <hondje> dr`venom: No, that part will just be Driver        "nvidia" , you want to comment out the load dri part in the 'modules' section
[03:06] <scodil> acpi works fine on the liveCD, but on my current system, some things don't work, like the battery meter and the ac connect/disconnect events.  how do I find out what's different between the livecd and my current system?
[03:06] <jrib> tiredbones: no, strange.  How about if you do 'totem /path/to/some/mediafile'
[03:06] <agent> ianmacgregor: just so you know that link does not have edgy option
[03:07] <agent> [Daniel] : your trying to update edgy, right? if not dont use my sources ;)
[03:07] <ianmacgregor> agent: Well, edgy folks should be in #ubuntu+q anyway. But, thank you for that info, I didn't know that.
[03:07] <emmettshear_> because I'd really love to get my webcam working tonight
[03:07] <dr`venom> I see the a load "dri"
[03:07] <dr`venom> is that where i am doint the #
[03:07] <[Daniel] > agent> Yep, I'm trying to run edgy :)
[03:07] <jrib> dr`venom: yeah, put it at the beginning of the line before any letters
[03:07] <emmettshear_> any experts who could help make that happen? I promise I'm polite and you won't have to explain how "grep" works
[03:08] <dr`venom> #   Load   "dri"
[03:08] <dr`venom> like that?
[03:08] <jrib> dr`venom: ye
[03:08] <ianmacgregor> yes
[03:08] <dr`venom> cool
[03:08] <agent> [Daniel] : select the download as text link and copy from/paste from that because paste bin adds #'s and spaces
[03:08] <[Daniel] > agent> Thanks, looks like the same of mine but in the opposite order.
[03:09] <black_13> ok this is a stretch but can rpms be installed on ubuntu
[03:09] <[Daniel] > agent> Going to try them just to see what happens :)
[03:09] <hondje> black_13: Yes, using 'alien', but usually if there's an RPM, there's a .deb
[03:09] <jrib> black_13: not recommended
[03:09] <agent> [Daniel] : sure, why not? ;)
[03:09] <dr`venom> oh one more thing, my native resolution is 1440x900. I dont see that available. Can I add it to the list of resolutions?
[03:09] <[Daniel] > Yay, running an upgrade seems to be working now
[03:09] <black_13> hondje i have been looking for a deb for serlook
[03:09] <[Daniel] > And now I'm off, catch you guys later :)
[03:09] <ianmacgregor> black_13: Not a good idea. Better to get an Ubuntu .deb or compile from source if it isn't inthe repos.
[03:09] <[Daniel] > Thanks for the help agent, much appreciated
[03:09] <hondje> dr`venom: yes, you can add it where the other ones are
[03:09] <agent> dr`venom: you can add any resolution you wish :)
[03:10] <agent> [Daniel] : thank you for giving me the chance to help ;)
[03:10] <Mad3Max3> crimsun , are u there?
[03:10] <ianmacgregor> !alien
[03:10] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:10] <[Daniel] > :)
[03:10] <black_13> i have run apt-cache search serlook and no luck
[03:10] <[Daniel] > Have a good one
[03:10] <hondje> black_13: http://freshmeat.net/projects/serlook/ that one?
[03:10] <black_13> yes i believe so
[03:10] <crimsun> Mad3Max3: I'm fairly busy atm.
[03:11] <agent> black_13: just so you know: packages.ubuntu.com <--- find packages for any/all ubuntu releases
[03:12] <dr`venom> do I need to restart?
[03:12] <agent> black_13: and serlook is not in official repos
[03:12] <black_13> thanks agent
[03:12] <Mad3Max3> crimsun, ok! but a fast question. I've read that I have to unmute the spdif in the alsamixer. but since I don't even have a row for spdif in my alsamixer I wonder if I have to activate it or something
[03:12] <cgardner> Hey guys, I have an ipw2200 wireless card and network-admin doesn't detect my ssid (which is broadcasting).  Any suggestions?
[03:12] <hondje> black_13: Hmm, yep :-) You can use the rpm with alien, for something like that it shouldn't be too chaotic
[03:13] <black_13> agent becuase its a pain to build ... i have it seems to build fine on rpm based distros (mandrake suse)
[03:13] <agent> dr`venom: why do you think you need to restart?
[03:13] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: For nvidia driver install? No, no need to restart.
[03:13] <tsoler> jrib
[03:13] <tiredbones> jrib, tired to use pastbin, not working.   (totem:6092): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libcdda.so' (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libcdda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory). What package am I missing?
[03:13] <tsoler> are u still here?
[03:13] <steeltoes1234> hey hey.   can someone give me some advice about trying to set up XGL?  i am bit of a noob
[03:14] <GTroy> hopefully someone can help me add a file to /etc/profile?
[03:14] <jrib> tsoler: yes
[03:14] <LjL> !xgl > steeltoes1234
[03:14] <agent> !list > agent
[03:14] <tsoler> how can i find which graphic card my system sees?
[03:14] <black_13> will alien tell me what deb files are needed?
[03:14] <agent> tsoler: lspci probably
[03:15] <ianmacgregor> black_13: alien is dangerous, don't use it
[03:15] <ianmacgregor> !alien > black_13
[03:15] <jrib> tiredbones: are you using dapper?
[03:15] <steeltoes1234> ok i want to install XGL.  i understand that i require 3d accelerated drivers installed first.   I have a ATI 9600 pro card.     how can i tell if i have the correct drivers installed or not?
[03:15] <tiredbones> jrib, yes
[03:15] <LjL> steeltoes1234, ask in #ubuntu-cgl
[03:15] <LjL> #ubuntu-xgl even
[03:15] <steeltoes1234> ok thanks
[03:15] <ArrenLex> !tell steeltoes1234 about ati
[03:16] <tiredbones> jrib, I'm using the alternate version.
[03:17] <jrib> tiredbones: ok, did totem still not startup?  I don't think that warning is anything to worry about since no package actually installs that file and I use totem fine without it
[03:17] <black_13> question if compile and build the executeable static would it then run on another distro?
[03:17] <LjL> black_13: might.
[03:17] <black_13> a big maybe then?
[03:17] <ArrenLex> black_13: should.
[03:17] <ianmacgregor> black_13: It's best to build it on the system you plan to run it on
[03:17] <hondje> Or have a second toolchain
[03:18] <black_13> somedays i hate linux well not linux ... the kernel is great but its this fracturing that kills me
[03:18] <tiredbones> jrib, am I supposed to start it?
[03:18] <bruenig> you say fracturing, I say options
[03:18] <jrib> tiredbones: well typing 'totem' should start it is what I mean
[03:19] <ArrenLex> black_13: that's why you release source code!
[03:19] <jrib> tiredbones: in this case we did 'totem /path/to/some/file'
[03:19] <Mez> bruenig, I agree, fracturing/forking/spooning (not that way!) is bad... so much wasted effort with everyone duplicating coding etc etc
[03:19] <black_13> ah here come the flames
[03:19] <steeltoes1234> i cant seem to get into #ubuntu-xgl
[03:19] <Mez> make one linux, everyone work together, no redundant brain cycles
[03:19] <LjL> steeltoes1234: actually, you're there right now.
[03:19] <dr`venom> ok, so i have added my resolution "1440x900" to the xorg.conf file and I still dont get the option when I try to change it under system > preference > screen resolution. As a matter of fact, i only get for options of resolution while the xorg.conf file has about 7.
[03:19] <ArrenLex> Mez: you can't make everyone work together, though. They all want different things.
[03:20] <steeltoes1234> ??
[03:20] <jrib> dr`venom: did you restart X?
[03:20] <steeltoes1234> but i t wont let me type there says i need to be an operator
[03:20] <ArrenLex> steeltoes; I got in fine. o_O
[03:20] <precator> i just installed ubuntu but i dont know the default username and password
[03:20] <dr`venom> I restarted my computer, so I take it it must have restarted x
[03:20] <precator> can ayone help me
[03:20] <hondje> black_13: have you looked at snooper and ttysnop at all?
[03:20] <jrib> precator: it should have prompted you for taht during the install
[03:20] <hondje> at least I think that's the name of the pkgs ....
[03:20] <Mez> ArrenLex, true, however, for example, all the different config tools people have for gnome... all the different distros have different things - but they all do the same job...
[03:20] <Mez> stuff like that gets on my nerves
[03:21] <hondje> yep, it's still snooper
[03:21] <tiredbones> jrib, 'totem /path/to/some/file', the file is a wav file format. It suppose to tell my daughter how to pronouce a french word.
[03:21] <black_13> no i havent if they work ill ditch serlook its to much of pain to get working and i have to use debian/ubuntu
[03:21] <precator> thanks jrib
[03:21] <bruenig> linux's purpose is to provide other options to that which exists (I know that is not its only purpose but that is one of the big draws for windows people tired of windows). If you say you can no longer provide other options through forking and different distros and whatnot, you defeat the purpose.
[03:21] <hondje> black_13: i use snooper, it works pretty smoothly
[03:21] <steeltoes1234> arrenlex: ya i just figured it out
[03:21] <rockzman> Can anyone help me with Wireless drivers ?
[03:22] <hondje> Well, by 'use' I mean 'very rarely get bugged by something not working and break it out to see what's happening, and have to RTFM all over again' :)
[03:22] <jbmigel> rockzman http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=219f54cb6bc076ae1178fd2818a1a30f&t=31926
[03:22] <jrib> tiredbones: so other than the warning, nothing else happened and totem failed to open right?  If that's the case, then I don't know but we can just try a different player for you to hear the file
[03:22] <rockzman> jbmigel it is not an usual information
[03:22] <jbmigel> rockzman well ask an unusual question then please
[03:23] <rockzman> jbmigel i am using prism2_usb for a wireless usb adapter and it says "operation not supoprted" when i try setting up an essid what does it means
[03:23] <tiredbones> jrib, you are right
[03:23] <black_13> what i like about serlook is that i could watch the stream of bytes comeing and going its similar to a win32 prog call sermon
[03:23] <dr`venom> I love linux, but I seem to find some issue with every distro that I have. Then again, I have only been using linux for a few months. I do hope to abandon windows once I can find a distro that can work properly with my hardware. So far, abuntu is the closest
[03:23] <agent> anyone know if jigdo files will be provided for desktop cd? (edgy stable)
[03:24] <jrib> tiredbones: try installing gxine from the repositories and see if that works for you
[03:24] <agent> dr`venom: or replace the odd hardware to work with linux :)
[03:24] <tiredbones> jrib, ok
[03:24] <dr`venom> well, my video card works fine in suse, but my sound card does not
[03:24] <jbmigel> rockzman your should try to attach to your router from command line by AP address instead
[03:24] <dr`venom> my sound card works great in ubuntu
[03:24] <jbmigel> rockzman iwconfig
[03:24] <dr`venom> but not my resolution
[03:25] <rockzman> jbmigel i tried installing with slackware and now i am trying with ubuntu 6.06
[03:25] <kitche> dr`venom: what video card?
[03:25] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: Did you restart X ?
[03:25] <rockzman> jbmigel ok on iwconfig wlan0 sit0 eth0
[03:25] <dr`venom> so, I dont think it is the hardware. It is namely my lack of knowledge when it comes to linux
[03:25] <dr`venom> gforce fx5200
[03:25] <rockzman> jbmigel then iwconfig wlan0 essid "ANY" or -- any
[03:25] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: That card works, I use it
[03:25] <dr`venom> it supports 1440x900 resolution in suse
[03:25] <dr`venom> so I konw linux supports it
[03:25] <rockzman> answer: operation not supported jbmigel
[03:25] <rockzman> :/
[03:25] <jbmigel> rockzman no iwconfig wlan0 AP 12:23:34:45:56
[03:25] <hondje> dr`venom: That's probably an issue with horiz / vert ratesx
[03:26] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: Did you restart X ?
[03:26] <agent> dr`venom: if it supports it in suse, it supports it in ubuntu... both use xorg :)
[03:26] <kitche> dr`venom: to get higher res you need the binary driver the nv driver doesn't really support high resolutions
[03:26] <dr`venom> I just dont know why I can't get that resolution in ubuntu
[03:26] <ianmacgregor> agent: good point
[03:26] <dr`venom> yea
[03:26] <jbmigel> rockzman where the numbers match the ap address of your router... get that with iwlist
[03:26] <dr`venom> I did
[03:26] <dr`venom> I have the nvidia driver
[03:26] <dr`venom> it says "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[03:26] <hondje> dr`venom: does sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange say anything?
[03:26] <dr`venom> let me check
[03:27] <rockzman> jbmigel iwlist wlan0 scanning:
[03:27] <rockzman> ?
[03:27] <jbmigel> iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:27] <tiredbones> jrib, can I use synaptic to install gxine or do I do apt-get?
[03:27] <jrib> tiredbones: whichever you prefer
[03:27] <ianmacgregor> tiredbones: Synaptic is a front=end for apt
[03:27] <rockzman> k brb
[03:27] <c|int> i got a problem
[03:27] <dr`venom> I see my resolution in there
[03:27] <dr`venom> but I can't get it from the system menu
[03:27] <agent> dr`venom: when you make changes to xorg you need to restart it (ctl+alt+del) - restarting xorg will of course restart your whole dekstop (and quick your programs)
[03:28] <jbmigel> rockzman you should be able to attch with essid if you specify it... they driver for your device obviously doesnt support the "any" parameter
[03:28] <c|int> Azureus won't load
[03:28] <hondje> dr`venom: something like monitorrange: 31-96, 55-160 ?
[03:28] <c|int> and I got java installed, and everything
[03:28] <ianmacgregor> dr`venom: Do you use xchat?
[03:28] <dr`venom> let me check
[03:28] <Madeye> any dyndns alternative ?
[03:28] <dr`venom> 31-81, 56-75
[03:28] <dr`venom> that is my monitor range
[03:28] <agent> dr`venom: if you modified xorg.conf with the new resolution, you need to restart xorg to have it as an option in the resolution dialog (i think)
[03:28] <tiredbones> ianmacgregor, how do you get synaptic to get a package if it's not found in the search?
[03:28] <dr`venom> I did restart it agent
[03:28] <c|int> dr venom
[03:28] <dr`venom> I restarted my computer
[03:29] <c|int> do you need help with your video settings eh
[03:29] <agent> dr`venom: ok
[03:29] <bruenig> tiredbones, what package are you looking for?
[03:29] <dr`venom> yea
[03:29] <c|int> what kind of card you hve
[03:29] <c|int> have
[03:29] <tiredbones> bruenig, gxine
[03:29] <ianmacgregor> tiredbones: If you're sure it's in the repos, you need to edit your sources.list and add the proper repo
[03:29] <dr`venom> gforce fx5200
[03:29] <bun-bun> Madeye# check www.tzo.com
[03:29] <c|int> oh okay lmao
[03:29] <c|int> same 1 I have :)
[03:29] <jrib> c|int: do you get any error output from a terminal with azureus?
[03:29] <bruenig> tiredbones, have you enabled the universe repo?
[03:29] <jrib> !info gxine
[03:29] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 301 kB, installed size 804 kB
[03:29] <c|int> I was busy since last nite, getting video card working great
[03:29] <hondje> dr`venom: okay, in the Monitor section of xorg.conf, put in HorizSync      31-81 and then VertRefresh      56-75, restart xorg, and see if you can get the higher resolution
[03:30] <dr`venom> and I have an lcd with a 1440x900 native resolution
[03:30] <hondje> that usually fixes the problem for me
[03:30] <Madeye> bun-bun, are they good ?
[03:30] <jbmigel> c|int does nvidia driver still do that splash screen thing? that was cool
[03:30] <bun-bun> Madeye# i have no idea
[03:30] <c|int> yep
[03:30] <jbmigel> nice
[03:30] <dr`venom> ok
[03:30] <bruenig> tiredbones, use this graphical tutorial to enabled the extra repos, after you are done with that. Go back in synaptic and reload and then look for it. It should be there. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[03:30] <c|int> after you install,  nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[03:30] <c|int> then
[03:30] <kitche> jbmigel it will always do that unless you turn that option off in xorg.conf
[03:30] <tiredbones> bruenig, how do you do that?
[03:31] <c|int> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:31] <hondje> jbmigel: Yes, unless you have NoLogo in the device section
[03:31] <c|int> right
[03:31] <c|int> dr venom
[03:31] <jbmigel> kitche hondje i have ati card now... just curious... it was wicked the first time you see it
[03:31] <tiredbones> bruenig, thanks
[03:31] <c|int> first of all, what video display modes you want supported
[03:31] <hondje> jbmigel: I have it on my TV, freaks people out when I turn it on ;-)
[03:31] <atom_> hi guys! :)
[03:32] <c|int> dr venom
[03:32] <atom_> whats the equivalent of winamp for linux? :)
[03:32] <dr`venom> I had an error when I enabled it, SO I did it manually
[03:32] <Pierre> atom_: xmms
[03:32] <ianmacgregor> atom_: xmms or bmp
[03:32] <c|int> I also did a, apt-get dist-upgrade, with edgy eft
[03:32] <c|int> yeah, but your performance isn't working as fast as you thought it would?
[03:32] <atom_> does xmms support shoutcast?
[03:32] <LjL> atom_: you have RhythmBox installed (it's in Applications / Sound). that's the default audio player. the one that looks the most like winamp is xmms
[03:33] <atom_> or rythm?
[03:33] <kitche> atom_: yes but you have to know the url to the server sicne xmms won't let you search for streams in the program
[03:33] <Parisi> Anyone know an easy way to upgrade dapper to Edgy from apt?
[03:33] <c|int> dr venom
[03:33] <c|int> what issues are you having
[03:33] <c|int> yes Parisi
[03:33] <jrib> Parisi: you understand edgy is not released as stable yet?
[03:33] <LjL> !edgy > Parisi
[03:33] <c|int> I can give you what I hvae in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:33] <Parisi> jrip, of course, neither is Beryl :0
[03:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell Parisi about upgrade
[03:34] <Parisi> jrip, I run Linux for testing purposes
[03:34] <Falstius> Parisi: gksu update-manager -c -d
[03:34] <Parisi> jrip, For fun anyways
[03:34] <c|int> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe
[03:34] <c|int> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe
[03:34] <tsoler> jrib
[03:34] <Parisi> Thanks mate :0
[03:34] <c|int> yvw ;)
[03:35] <Parisi> It will keep me busy until i switch to OSX
[03:35] <tsoler> jrib: how do i call i directory from terminal
[03:35] <c|int> if you want the whole entire source.list txt. let me know
[03:35] <jrib> tsoler: cd /path/to/directory
[03:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell tsoler about cli
[03:35] <c|int> !paste
[03:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:35] <Falstius> why would you want to switch ... ohwell.
[03:35] <dr`venom> does the 31-81 go in ""
[03:35] <tsoler> ok guys im sorry
[03:36] <jrib> tsoler: sorry for what?
[03:36] <hondje> dr`venom: no
[03:36] <tsoler> for flood
[03:36] <black_13> why doesnt kdevelop show up on my search of deb files?
[03:36] <c|int> heres latest
[03:36] <c|int> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27617/
[03:36] <dr`venom> ok so under identifier and option Im puting in Horizync   31-81
[03:36] <tsoler> dont know how tro hung around
[03:36] <LjL> black_13: do you have universe enabled?
[03:37] <c|int> is that what it can do
[03:37] <black_13> i thought so
[03:37] <Mad3Max3> How do I get s-pdif to work, I have a nvidia onboard sound.. Nforce chipset 430. Can't find any options in alsamixer about spdif..
[03:37] <hondje> black_13: if it is, did you do apt-get update? :)
[03:37] <LjL> black_13: try "sudo apt-get update" and then try again. also, note than in dapper the package is "kdevelop3" not just "kdevelop"
[03:37] <c|int> Parisi:
[03:37] <bruenig> c|int, what are you trying to do?
[03:38] <c|int> me?
[03:38] <c|int> just get Azureus working :-)
[03:38] <black_13> ljl i didnt add universe every where
[03:38] <c|int> I posted that for Parisi, to upgrade :-)
[03:38] <bruenig> oh Azureus is a pain because of ownership issues generally
[03:38] <Parisi> c|int,  ohm thanks.
[03:38] <jrib> c|int: do you get any ouput when you run azureus from a terminal?
[03:38] <c|int> yvw
[03:38] <K1765> Hey anyone here can help me with linux install, pm me plz
[03:38] <bruenig> !msg
[03:38] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:38] <K1765> ok
[03:39] <c|int> StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [127.0.0.1: 6880] 
[03:39] <atom_> how do you increase brightness?
[03:39] <tsoler> ok i bookmarked this clint
[03:39] <black_13> i want to be able to compile qt applications from source (my own sources) what packages will i need to bring down to get all of qt3/qt4?
[03:39] <bruenig> atom_, should be some buttons on your monitor
[03:39] <ianmacgregor> atom_: With some people, you just can't, lol
[03:39] <atom_> :)
[03:39] <c|int> k
[03:39] <K1765> well, I dl ubuntu, and put on CD. I changed bios to priority cd rom first, and it just comes to the "starting windows in normal mode in 30 seconds" what I do wrong?
[03:39] <kitche> atom_: it's a setting in xorg.conf also but it's called gamma
[03:39] <jrib> c|int: ps -ef | grep azureus     show any azureus running?
[03:40] <Parisi> gksu "update-manager -c -d"  What about that method?
[03:40] <c|int> make sure you clear everything out of the sources.list , if you want to upgrade
[03:40] <bruenig> K1765, did you burn the iso as an image or just burn it as data?
[03:40] <kitche> atom_: what drivers are you using since nvidia has a program to do it also
[03:40] <LjL> gamma != brightness though
[03:40] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Did you burn the ISO to cd as a file or as an image?
[03:40] <K1765> as an image
[03:40] <bruenig> K1765, did you check the md5sum before you burned it?
[03:40] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Perhaps it's a bad burn. did you check the ISO md5sum before burning?
[03:40] <dr`venom> wow, now x server wont start after the HoriSync thing
[03:40] <atom_> whats the show all hard drives command?
[03:40] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: hahahaha
[03:41] <K1765> md5sum???
[03:41] <K1765> lol
[03:41] <NN-DMT> Hey everyone. I issued the command : gksudo "update-manager -c -d" and get a problem with the update manager
[03:41] <hondje> jrib: You might like pgrep :)
[03:41] <bruenig> !md5
[03:41] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:41] <bruenig> K1765, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[03:41] <LjL> uh?!
[03:41] <NN-DMT> it says "unable to calculate the upgrade"
[03:41] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: You and I seem to be on the same wavelength tonight
[03:41] <Myrth> hi, anyone knows what it means when during pvmove it's stuck on "Loading Ubuntu-pvmove0"? ..
[03:41] <bruenig> echos all over the place
[03:41] <c|int> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27620/
[03:41] <K1765> its on the cd as an .iso file o.0
[03:42] <ianmacgregor> K1765: You need to burn it as an image
[03:42] <bruenig> K1765, right but maybe you had a bad download and the iso is corrupted
[03:42] <dr`venom> hm, i'm in front of a black screen with mariano-desktop login:
[03:42] <c|int> just having issues, getting Azureus up and running
[03:42] <c|int> took care of , nvidia issues :-)
[03:42] <K1765> kk
[03:42] <dr`venom> no x server
[03:42] <bruenig> K1765, generally I download it via bittorrent so as to not have to deal with the md5 hassle
[03:42] <dr`venom> anyone know what I can do from here?
[03:42] <bruenig> dr`venom, login
[03:43] <dr`venom> ok
[03:43] <K1765> Whats a good program to burn as image to cd? thats free?
[03:43] <bruenig> dr`venom, did you make any changes to your xorg.conf file before this no x server error happened?
[03:43] <dr`venom> i'm loged in
[03:43] <domibel> k3b
[03:43] <dr`venom> yea
[03:43] <dr`venom> HorinSync
[03:43] <dr`venom> 31-81
[03:43] <bruenig> dr`venom, did you make a backup?
[03:43] <ianmacgregor> K1765: k3b, gnomebaker, graveman, there are lots
[03:43] <Djnx>  does anyone happen to know what i need to add to the package manager sources.list? like the universal repositories
[03:43] <jrib> c|int: that first process (6139) is azureus
[03:43] <dr`venom> I'm not sure
[03:43] <atom_> do you guys run an anti virus program?
[03:43] <bruenig> ianmacgregor, he probably means on windows
[03:44] <dr`venom> is there a way to just go in there and erase it?
[03:44] <ianmacgregor> !repos > Djnx
[03:44] <c|int> I'm going get Opera up and running, hee I got so much on it, in Mandriva
[03:44] <dr`venom> I know exactly what I added before it had this error
[03:44] <c|int> 9 meg down.. :)
[03:44] <ianmacgregor> bruenig: Oh, lol, I haven't touched that little toy in years.
[03:44] <sproingie> atom_: yeah.  linux.
[03:44] <NN-DMT> Hey guys - can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27621/
[03:44] <atom_> lol
[03:44] <atom_> theres supposedly 100+ viruses for linux
[03:44] <sproingie> atom_: and none of them "in the wild"
[03:45] <Mad3Max3> I hate being stuck on such a small thing here.. sound works trhougt the headphone jacks on the mobo.. but I inserted a spdif bracket a 2 hours ago.. and started up again and had the illusion that there would exist a option in alsamixer about s-pdif since I have one on the mobo.. but no no.. nothing.. so here I am trying to figure this colundrum out
[03:45] <atom_> how liberating. i feel naked
[03:45] <kitche> atom_: most are done by breaking into a system they aren't like windows where it will get infected automatically
[03:45] <sproingie> not much about linux precludes viruses.  just the way it is that there arent many out there
[03:45] <c|int> opera, went up nice and easily on, edgy edft
[03:45] <bruenig> dr`venom, when you get logged in do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you better make sure you know what you are doing though. Generally it saves the last backup so if you mess this up there is no way of recovering, Also that command as with all unix is case sensitive
[03:45] <c|int> I used the debian deb, for etch, not ubuntu packages :)
[03:45] <K1765> Any cd burners for windows ??
[03:45] <sproingie> atom_: mind you there are plenty of worm rootkits out there that will exploit things like phpBB or drupal or old mysql installs
[03:45] <dr`venom> ok
[03:46] <dr`venom> I got it :) thanks let me get my hands dirty
[03:46] <NN-DMT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27621/ is the error im experiencing - any ideas?
[03:46] <starsky-hutchy> !windows
[03:46] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:46] <atom_> LOL
[03:46] <starsky-hutchy> :)
[03:47] <ianmacgregor> LOL @ nearest mental health institute!
[03:47] <bruenig> dr`venom, after you make your changes, ctrl+o will save and ctrl+x will exit. Then just do startx and it should startup if you did it right.
[03:47] <atom_> cool. bubble shows me what songs being played from shoutcast :)
[03:47] <bruenig> "startx"
[03:47] <sproingie> nothing wrong with windows
[03:47] <sproingie> that a bulk eraser can't fix
[03:47] <NN-DMT> lol
[03:47] <NN-DMT> big magnets and wintel boxes make me very happy..
[03:47] <jvai> smh.. uall sik
[03:48] <c|int> opera is working fantastic
[03:48] <NN-DMT> If my packages are all confused and messed up.. is there any way to force them to fix themselves?
[03:48] <dr`venom> ok, im in the file
[03:48] <dr`venom> but I see no letters
[03:48] <K1765> GRRR wow, how do i remove the dang .iso so i can reburn it?
[03:48] <dr`venom> how do I erase the part that I added before the error?
[03:48] <K1765> (remove from the cd)
[03:48] <dr`venom> i'm I better off reinstalling ubuntu?
[03:49] <ianmacgregor> K1765: You can't, just copy it or burn it from the cd
[03:49] <bruenig> dr`venom, you said you knew where it was? Are you sure you typed that command in right. If you messed it in the slightest, it might have opened a blank file instead of the configuration file.
[03:49] <dr`venom> yea, i'm in there
[03:49] <K1765> omg
[03:49] <dr`venom> but I get these options in the bottom part
[03:49] <dr`venom> G get help
[03:49] <Djnx> ianmacgregor: thanks!
[03:49] <dr`venom> x exit
[03:49] <^Alan^> I have a computer that uses dapper drake..its got a broadband connection through a network card...how do i set up my ubuntu to use this card?
[03:49] <Parisi> Ok
[03:49] <dr`venom> and so forth
[03:49] <Parisi> Upgrading to Edgy :)
[03:49] <dr`venom> but there is nothing there
[03:50] <K1765> burn it from what?? i cant burn the .iso to the same cd......
[03:50] <dr`venom> do I type in ^R to read the file?
[03:50] <^Alan^> well
[03:50] <bruenig> dr`venom, all of those things mean ctrl+the letter. So for help do ctrl+G, or exit is Ctrl+X
[03:50] <^Alan^> gonna go
[03:50] <ianmacgregor> Djnx: You're welcome :)
[03:50] <dr`venom> cool
[03:50] <bruenig> dr`venom, if there is no text on the file you are looking at, you typed it in incorrectly, or you had no xorg.conf file
[03:51] <K1765> wow
[03:51] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Ok, you only have one cd-r drive? Ok, then pop in the cd, copy it to the hard drive, then put in a blank cd and burn it as an image from the hd
[03:51] <DMT> I really need some help :(
[03:51] <teledyn> !tell dr`venom about enter
[03:51] <K1765> it says read only so i cant use that cd anymore :/
[03:51] <jbmigel> DMT whats up?
[03:51] <K1765> i only got 1 cd and its got the .iso on it...
[03:51] <ianmacgregor> K1765: But, you can copy the ISO from the cd to the hard drive
[03:51] <DMT> jbmigel, trying to upgrade to edgy...
[03:51] <c|int> who is
[03:51] <DMT> jbmigel, im getting a really lame error
[03:52] <DMT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27621/
[03:52] <K1765> i got it on my hard drive already.......
[03:52] <bruenig> an error with lame, well it is just an mp3 decoder, I wouldn't worry too much about that
[03:52] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Ok, then burn it as an image to a blank cd-r
[03:52] <hondje> DMT: there's a chan just for upgrading to edgy :)
[03:52] <K1765> I just tried to burn it as an image and its on the only blank cd i had..... and i cant delete it so
[03:53] <bruenig> DMT, I saw that earlier from somebody else. It is impossible to derive anything from that.
[03:53] <K1765> lol im not going to waste 10 blank cds on this crap if its not going to work
[03:53] <jbmigel> K1765 you have messed up, you cant overwrite your used disk... go borrow another they are 2 cents
[03:53] <DMT> where is the upgrade chan?
[03:53] <ianmacgregor> K1765: if you do it right, it will only us one blank cd
[03:53] <bruenig> K1765, obviously it works, else no one would have ubuntu and this channel wouldn't exist.
[03:53] <hondje> DMT: #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <jbmigel> K1765 also you could request the ubuntu gods to just mail you ojne
[03:54] <ianmacgregor> !shipit
[03:54] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[03:54] <K1765> I did do it right the time, i burned it to the blank cd.......
[03:54] <K1765> and it dont work so
[03:54] <jbmigel> k1765 you burned the iso file to the cd as data... you *should* have burned it as an image
[03:54] <jojoma> how you know it didnt work
[03:55] <bruenig> K1765, but the dowloaded iso might not have been correct. It might have been corrupted. You may have done everything else right but if you missed that, it won't work. If you still have the iso, perhaps verify with that link I gave you.
[03:55] <Thirsteh> ShipIt is an awesome feature, I must admit. I ordered a few a while back, not thinking I was going to use them since I have a DVDRW drive and a highspeed connection. Boy, was I wrong.
[03:55] <ianmacgregor> jojoma: because he sees the ISO file on the cd
[03:55] <K1765> ok well what burner can i use to burn it as an image then?
[03:55] <Thirsteh> K1765: Are you in Windows or Linux at the moment?
[03:55] <Thirsteh> Sorry, didn't follow the conversation
[03:55] <K1765> windows.....or i wouldnt be asking for help lol
[03:55] <jbmigel> k1765 you right click the .iso file and click "burn as image"
[03:55] <Thirsteh> jbmigel: That's not a native Windows feature
[03:56] <jbmigel> Thirsteh well it ought to be
[03:56] <ianmacgregor> jbmigel: That would make sense, and we all know.. well, you get the idea.
[03:56] <Thirsteh> jbmigel: There's no limit to the things that should be builtin to Windows :p
[03:56] <K1765> lol jb, i have to have the program installed for that to be an option
[03:56] <tiredbones> bruenig, ok I can see gxine in synaptic. While in synaptic I notice that totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin are not installed. should they be?
[03:56] <Thirsteh> K1765: Tried ISOBuster? I think it can do the job
[03:56] <Mad3Max3> if alsa can't find the control IEC958 .. then whats wrong.. tried this amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[03:56] <K1765> kk ill try that 1 sec
[03:57] <jbmigel> k1765 do you have any burning software installed? like nero?
[03:57] <Thirsteh> K1765: I'm not really sure. It might just be a CD ripper, but I do reckon having used it to burn once.
[03:57] <sethk> Mad3Max3, most likely the hardware doesn't support it.
[03:57] <bruenig> K1765, here is what the ##windows channel recommends, http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[03:57] <K1765> yea...i tried that link already....
[03:57] <Thirsteh> K1765: As long as you're just "Burning an ISO/Image" and not actually burning the ISO file to the CD, whatever program should do just fine.
[03:57] <jbmigel> k1765 install this and it will add "burn as image" to your windows http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[03:57] <K1765> that program wont work for me
[03:58] <Thirsteh> K1765: What jbmigel said :)
[03:58] <bruenig> tiredbones, not necessarily, it won't hurt to install them. Unless you are using some other engine that you know of, I would say try it and if you don't like it or something bad happens, you can uninstall it later.
[03:58] <dr`venom> ok, I am just going to reinstall ubuntu one more time and do the nvidia drivers again. I will finally try to fix the resolution issue one last time. I've done nothing but messed around with linux all day (lol). It was fun
[03:58] <dr`venom> lol
[03:58] <Mad3Max3> sethk.. but is a ordinary Nvidia onboard soundcard.. in the Nforce 430 chipset.. it should support it.
[03:58] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: Gotta break it to learn it :D
[03:58] <GhostFreeman> what's the unix command to search for files?
[03:58] <Xenguy> GhostFreeman: find
[03:58] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[03:58] <sethk> Mad3Max3, possibly the kernel support for it isn't compiled in (or the module isn't loaded).
[03:58] <Thirsteh> GhostFreeman: Find, but you might wanna try the Slocate package ('locate')
[03:59] <Xenguy> GhostFreeman: or locate
[03:59] <kitche> GhostFreeman: you can do sudo updatedb then locate <file>
[03:59] <tiredbones> bruenig, would they have stop totem from starting?
[03:59] <Thirsteh> GhostFreeman: Do 'sudo updatedb' then go 'locate'ing crazy
[03:59] <dr`venom> unfortunately, I do not have much time cause of school (majoring in math and economics)
[03:59] <Ragnaroek> hello
[03:59] <GhostFreeman> right
[03:59] <bruenig> tiredbones, no
[03:59] <Thirsteh> kitche: ;P
[03:59] <bruenig> tiredbones, just install gxine for now, those might interfere with gxine
[03:59] <dr`venom> However, I have to find an alternative to windows. I will not pay the $$$$$$ for vista
[03:59] <rockzman> jbmigel hiho u said me to type iwlist wlan0 scan to verify if any access points were accessible
[03:59] <Ragnaroek> you tell me
[03:59] <Mad3Max3> sethk, how do I see if the modules is loaded.. and where do I see which modules are loaded?
[03:59] <rockzman> jbmigel may i tell you something
[03:59] <dr`venom> I rather donate that money to a distribution
[04:00] <jbmigel> rockzman did it work?
[04:00] <rockzman> jbmigel no
[04:00] <fiveiron> mmmm....6.10 is nice
[04:00] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: Ubuntu is a step in the right direction. Biased, of course, but really, it is.
[04:00] <sethk> Mad3Max3, lsmod lists loaded modules
[04:00] <jbmigel> rockzman that command didnt list available access points/
[04:00] <tiredbones> bruenig, ok
[04:00] <rockzman> jbmige it showed none access points
[04:00] <bruenig> K1765, when I switched, I used nero, but that costs money, unless of course you bittorrent it. Assuming you already have a copy that you accidentally uninstalled and the cd is scratched up so won't work, you could get that copy and use it.
[04:00] <rockzman> mabe is my driver ? jbmigel u know the module prism2_usb?
[04:00] <jvai> for me.. hoary 5.04 was the xp killa, & for me still, dapper wil be the vista killa
[04:00] <Xenguy> K1765: k3b
[04:01] <dr`venom> I know, I really like linux. Actually, I love it. I really like suse, ubuntu, and pclinux os. But I have had an issue with all of them
[04:01] <dr`venom> just one issue
[04:01] <dr`venom> lol
[04:01] <Thirsteh> jvai: And Edgy will eliminate any opposition, right? :)
[04:01] <bruenig> Xenguy, windows...
[04:01] <jbmigel> rockzman i dont know that device... did you have to install ndiswrapper?
[04:01] <Xenguy> bruenig: np, just install linux
[04:01] <Xenguy> ;-)
[04:01] <rockzman> jbmigel i've tried to install the stable version
[04:01] <dr`venom> suse: sound, ubuntu: no 1440x900 resolution, and PClinuxOS: no wpa wireless
[04:01] <bruenig> lol, right he is looking for a windows burner
[04:01] <jvai> lol.. edgy, is icing.... for ms's next whatever/.. lol
[04:01] <sproingie> i'm not an anti-MS bill-basher by any stretch but I'm staying away from vista too
[04:01] <Parisi> Hmm.
[04:01] <rockzman> jbmigel followed INSTALL file instructions and there was "unkown make command"
[04:02] <sproingie> the insane system requirements did it for me
[04:02] <rockzman> even with sudo
[04:02] <jbmigel> rockzman were you successful? can you see your wlan0 in ifconfig?
[04:02] <Parisi> A bit too early to comment on Vista no?
[04:02] <Parisi> I think Vista will be fine.
[04:02] <bruenig> but it has transparent windows, how can you resist that innovation that microsoft exclusively have figured out how to do.
[04:02] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: To be honest, there's always a little something with any Linux, but as soon as you've gone through configuration, you'll find that it's NOTHING in comparison to the usual maintainability requirements of e.g. Windows
[04:02] <Mad3Max3> sethk, it says that the soundcard is loaded.. nothing specific about s-pdif thou..
[04:02] <Djnx> when it arrives
[04:02] <Djnx> and that weill
[04:02] <dr`venom> ok installing ubuntu right now I'll be back when i'm done installing nvidia drivers. I hope I can get some help from you guys with the resolution. I really would appriciate it.
[04:02] <Djnx> its likje vapourware
[04:02] <Parisi> There will be a number of switchers from OSX and Linux.
[04:02] <Xenguy> repeatedly
[04:02] <sproingie> the security model in vista looks like pop-up hell
[04:02] <Parisi> Mark my words.
[04:02] <sproingie> Djnx: of course it's not vaporware
[04:02] <rj-> vista is garbage
[04:02] <rj-> :/
[04:02] <jbmigel> rockzman "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to add make to your system
[04:02] <Mad3Max3> sethk, does alsa autodetect stuff like s-pdif .. like on boot and such.
[04:02] <dr`venom> yup, I tried vista RC2 and it was no good
[04:03] <Djnx> sproingie: its not vapourware, but lots of its features were
[04:03] <Parisi> I just hope they make it a little more speedier and less resource hog, jesus.
[04:03] <jvai> i'm on hoary still, & my box runs circles round the xp workstations on my job
[04:03] <dr`venom> slow, and I think the price is $400+
[04:03] <sethk> Mad3Max3, ordinarily, yes, but there can always be exceptions.
[04:03] <sproingie> it's about $150
[04:03] <bruenig> price, lol, bittorrent
[04:03] <Parisi> And i think $100 for a OS is reasonable.
[04:03] <K1765> so i burn as a .iso right?
[04:03] <jvai> i just cant get into the active dir @ work :(
[04:03] <Mad3Max3> sethk, maybe I have to reload something. since I installed the s-pdif bracket afterwards
[04:03] <GhostFreeman> What's the most lightest way possible for me to install Amarok?
[04:03] <sethk> K1765, right
[04:03] <Djnx> but youll have to wait at least for the first service pack to know how good vista actually is
[04:03] <dr`venom> the ultimate edition is 400+
[04:03] <dr`venom> they have five versions I think
[04:03] <jrib> GhostFreeman: sudo apt-get install amarok
[04:04] <Xenguy> K1765: nice -19 growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso
[04:04] <sproingie> $150 for the os, $350 for a new motherboard, video card, and cpu
[04:04] <dr`venom> talk about price discrimination
[04:04] <sethk> Mad3Max3, possible, yes.  there is a dpkg-reconfigure command you can run.
[04:04] <steeltoes1234> ok help me please.   i think i just removed the tab in my toolbar that will allow me to jump between the 4 workspaces on my desktop.    how do i get that back on my toolbar????
[04:04] <K1765> kk i found like 5 more blank cds so lol
[04:04] <Parisi> sproingie,  How much would you pay for a mac to run OSX ?
[04:04] <bruenig> GhostFreeman, sudo aptitude install amarok, it is the best way and I assume lightest. I doubt it loads you down with stuff you don't need but you may try manually to see if some of the dependencies it adds are unneeded. Kind of doub it myself
[04:04] <Parisi> sproingie,  Couple of 1k ?
[04:04] <rockzman> jbmigel do i need to have internet connection to install build-essential package?
[04:04] <GhostFreeman> thank you jrib, bruenig
[04:04] <dr`venom> I dont know man, I am a super leftist economist. I like the whole linux community thing. It is something very personal, unlike windows.
[04:04] <jbmigel> rockzman yes you will
[04:05] <ianmacgregor> steeltoes1234: right-click the panel, choose add to panel, find the workspace switcher and drag it to the panel
[04:05] <jbmigel> rockzman your not wired?
[04:05] <bruenig> GhostFreeman, you may want to give listen a try. It has all of the features of amarok. Or most I think. It has wikipedia and lyrics and all of that good stuff. Automatic album art download, etc. http://listengnome.free.fr/
[04:05] <rockzman> jbmigel bad i have a 5.10 cd here
[04:05] <rockzman> jbmigel ye but im using windows to login on iRC
[04:05] <starsky-hutchy> dr`venom: :). I concur.
[04:05] <steeltoes1234> but the workspace switcher is gone!@
[04:05] <ianmacgregor> steeltoes1234: look in the add to panel window to find it
[04:05] <jbmigel> rockzman you can download the build-essential package, then copy it over then install it manually
[04:05] <Mad3Max3> sethk, just type dpkg-reconfigure in terminal and enter?
[04:06] <sethk> Mad3Max3, no, we need the package name to reconfigure
[04:06] <starsky-hutchy> Linux community is *alot* about freedom.
[04:06] <ianmacgregor> steeltoes1234: It should be under Desktop & Windows
[04:06] <steeltoes1234> under preferences???
[04:06] <rockzman> jbmigel where is this package available to download
[04:06] <dr`venom> Yup, I think my thesis will be on linux and opensource
[04:06] <dr`venom> I have to learn about it more
[04:06] <sproingie> Parisi: meh, the gui candy on vista is just part of it, and i'm kind of glad that they took GDI out behind the woodshed anyway
[04:06] <ianmacgregor> steeltoes1234: right-click the panel, choose add to panel, find the workspace switcher in the add to panel window and drag it to the panel
[04:06] <dr`venom> then, I can start building my econ graphs
[04:06] <dr`venom> lol
[04:06] <Mad3Max3> sethk, is it the alsa-mixer or alsa something?
[04:07] <sproingie> Parisi: the user security model looks supremely annoying however
[04:07] <mathieu_> anyone have suggestions of multiplayer popular linux multiplayer games ?
[04:07] <dr`venom> ok, I am going to go get some coffee while ubuntu installs
[04:07] <Thirsteh> mathieu_: Free or commercial?
[04:07] <sethk> Mad3Max3, no, the mixer uses it, but the mixer is just an app
[04:07] <dr`venom> brb
[04:07] <mathieu_> Thirsteh: free of course
[04:07] <JsonT> okay. i have downloaded a new cool coursor pack. sooo, how do i apply it?
[04:08] <ianmacgregor> mathieu_: a nice, fast-paced, game you can try is bzflag
[04:08] <atom_> there is no skype for x64 ? :(
[04:08] <Thirsteh> mathieu_: Vendetta, if you like online space games. It's an MMORPG of sorts.
[04:08] <c|int> oh yeah, where did you get that, cusor pack from?
[04:08] <mathieu_> ianmacgregor: installing
[04:08] <jbmigel> rockzman you will also need your kernel-headers to build ndiswrapper... do you know what kernel you run while i look for link?
[04:08] <ianmacgregor> mathieu_: That's a fast-paced game :) I always get my bum kicked, but I like it
[04:08] <JsonT> hm... hold on, ill get the link...
[04:09] <JsonT> gnome-look.org
[04:09] <steeltoes1234> ok got the workspace switcher back.   thanks!
[04:09] <Mad3Max3> sethk, maybe alsa-base?
[04:09] <ianmacgregor> steeltoes1234: :)
[04:09] <DreamingRom> jbmigel: you find that in synaptic
[04:09] <DreamingRom> or when you boot (grub)
[04:09] <tiredbones> before I install gxine, could someone look at this. It pertains to totem. http://animimotus.pastebin.ca/212846
[04:09] <steeltoes1234> only thing though is now it is in the centre of the tool bar, can i get it to the right edge again?
[04:10] <jbmigel> DreamingRom he has no network synaptic is useless... hey where is that repository file?
[04:10] <jvai> i want elive online for linux..
[04:11] <JsonT> soo... how to apply? im very excited to have those cool cursors... yey..
[04:12] <DreamingRom> sorry, I read too fast
[04:13] <JsonT> ahem... noone? :-/
[04:13] <sethk> Mad3Max3, could be any of the alsa packages.  check for an audio howto, it might not address your specific issue, but it will certainly tell you in general the way to reconfigure.
[04:14] <sethk> jbmigel, you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:14] <gnu2it2> any idea when flash will work in 64 bit systems?
[04:14] <jbmigel> sethk ya
[04:14] <bruenig> gnu2it2, when they port it. I heard there is some plugin wrapper or something that works with flash 9 beta, but not using amd64 I have no idea
[04:14] <Mad3Max3> sethk , ok
[04:15] <dr`venom> ok setting up nvidia drivers. I have two hours before my date gets here
[04:15] <dr`venom> ahhhhhh
[04:16] <gnu2it2> thanks,, will look some more
[04:16] <JsonT> gaah.. f*k it, ill do it myself...
[04:16] <Mez> dr`venom, you going to try and impress her with Xgl then ?
[04:16] <dr`venom> not any more
[04:17] <dr`venom> I got dumped the last time I did that
[04:17] <dr`venom> most girls think that I am quite an attractive guy that is borring as hell.
[04:17] <hondje> hehehe
[04:17] <rukuartic> Hey there, are there any nice programs out there similar to iTunes that will help organize my music library? I've looked around in apt and I can't find much...
[04:17] <hondje> Never, ever, ever talk to girls about 1) computers, 2) math
[04:17] <hondje> :)
[04:17] <Thirsteh> hondje: word.
[04:17] <dr`venom> I love math, computers, and physics
[04:17] <dr`venom> lol
[04:17] <jbmigel> nerd
[04:18] <bpfick> Amarok
[04:18] <Xenguy> hondje: philosophy, psychism, and voodoo -- try it, it works :P
[04:18] <dr`venom> nerds will inherit the world
[04:18] <hondje> My gf has no idea I actually run a physics chan on this network, for example .... and she never will muwahaha
[04:18] <sproingie> hondje: but ... but ... that guy on numbers talks about math and he gets all the chicks
[04:18] <dr`venom> lol
[04:18] <dr`venom> oh man, that is funny
[04:18] <bpfick> fair itunes mimic   Amarok
[04:18] <hondje> sproingie: hehe
[04:18] <dr`venom> lol
[04:18] <dr`venom> man, that had me rolling on the ground
[04:19] <DreamingRom> dr'venom ok I understand your former girlfriends lol
[04:19] <DreamingRom> my dog just farted rrr
[04:19] <sproingie> DreamingRom: thanks for sharing
[04:19] <v3l0ct> rukuartic, rhythmbox, quodlibet, exaile, banshee.  Those are just a few
[04:19] <K1765> wow
[04:19] <dr`venom> I know one fine girl that loves math, but she is married to a rich amigo
[04:19] <rukuartic> bpfick: Yeah but thats a KDE thing... looking for more of a manager instead of a player.
[04:19] <DreamingRom> you're welcome sproingie
[04:19] <dr`venom> should I do the software updates first, or install the nvidia driver?
[04:19] <hondje> I dated a math girl once. Bad idea
[04:19] <K1765> still cant find a burner that works..............www sux
[04:19] <hondje> but, that's OT so I'll stfu :)
[04:19] <dr`venom> lol
[04:20] <tiredbones_> I just lost power, very windy here. Did anyone look at the paste I did?
[04:20] <Xenguy> K1765: *definitely* k3b
[04:20] <K1765> is k3b linux or windows.........
[04:20] <Xenguy> K1765: install linux quick - you need to burn those DVDs!
[04:20] <v3l0ct> linuxboy, it's a kde app
[04:20] <dr`venom> works great too
[04:20] <v3l0ct> brasero is very good also
[04:20] <starsky-hutchy> !k3b > Xenguy
[04:20] <K1765> well im talking about a burner for windows.................
[04:21] <dr`venom> ah nero 6.4
[04:21] <starsky-hutchy> !k3b > K1765
[04:21] <Xenguy> starsky-hutchy: gee thanks =)
[04:21] <bpfick> easyCD creator Roxio
[04:21] <DreamingRom> what's your release dr`venom
[04:21] <DreamingRom> ?
[04:21] <josh_> therefore 3b > 1765
[04:21] <dr`venom> my release is the 6.4 or 6.5.9
[04:21] <dr`venom> one of those two
[04:22] <dr`venom> I dont like 7
[04:22] <dr`venom> it is slow
[04:22] <bruenig> gnu2it2, here is that plugin wrapper the 64 bit people were saying worked with flash 9, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277077
[04:22] <v3l0ct> i have no clue, don't run windows
[04:22] <Xenguy> K1765: no man, you *have* to install linux now - or else you are in the *wrong* channel :-)
[04:22] <dr`venom> if you use linux, I recomend k3b
[04:22] <DreamingRom> ubuntu release dr`venom ?
[04:22] <bruenig> K1765, do you bittorrent?
[04:22] <dr`venom> I think it is fast and I have not gotten one error
[04:23] <dr`venom> I have the latest one
[04:23] <v3l0ct> edgy
[04:23] <dr`venom> let me double check though
[04:23] <dr`venom> 6.06 LTS
[04:24] <dr`venom> I am downloading the updates right now and I will install nvidia. THen, I have to start trouble shooting the resolution issue
[04:24] <DreamingRom> install the drivers from synaptic, switching nv to nvidia in xorg.conf and restart gdm  is not enough dr`venom
[04:24] <DreamingRom> ?
[04:24] <v3l0ct> I'm running 6.10 RC
[04:24] <steeltoes1234> does anyone know how to install Wine?
[04:24] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: should be in repos
[04:24] <v3l0ct> steeltoes1234, it's in the repos
[04:24] <dr`venom> that is exactly what I did
[04:24] <dr`venom> last time and still no 1440x900 resolution
[04:24] <K1765> ok
[04:24] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:25] <K1765> anyways
[04:25] <steeltoes1234> oh ya?
[04:25] <dr`venom> I even installed it manually
[04:25] <steeltoes1234> cool
[04:25] <K1765> I need to make the cd bootable right?
[04:25] <bruenig> steeltoes1234, "sudo apt-get install wine", after it install run winecfg, and then from there just do "wine "path/to/whatever.exe" to use win
[04:25] <bruenig> e
[04:25] <K1765> That might have been the problem
[04:25] <rukuartic> bruenig: winecfg is run automatically, don't worry. Its a one time thing
[04:25] <sureshot> hey all does wine do directx9c
[04:25] <K1765> Anyone????
[04:25] <kitche> dr`venom: the resolution problem probably has to do with xorg autodetection you might have to add the resolution to your xorg.conf
[04:26] <dr`venom> I did
[04:26] <K1765> Would having the cd not bootable be the problem?
[04:26] <dr`venom> and nothing
[04:26] <bruenig> rukuartic, is it? It didn't work for me until I winecfg. ANd I know it was a one time thing, but he having not run it would have to do it for his one time
[04:26] <dr`venom> I'm going to try again
[04:26] <kitche> dr`venom: and restarted gdm and X?
[04:26] <dr`venom> hopefully that will work
[04:26] <DreamingRom> when i install it manually on my system, it doesn't work :(
[04:26] <dr`venom> I restarted X
[04:26] <Mad3Max3> sethk, when I type the aplay -l ... I only get up Analog.. no digital.. is it that digital istn't enabled and thats why alsa can't find my spdif?
[04:26] <dr`venom> I restarted my computer
[04:26] <K1765> Would having the cd not bootable cause linux to not workkkkk?
[04:26] <dr`venom> so that should have done both
[04:26] <rukuartic> bruenig: Were you using an older version of wine?
[04:26] <bruenig> K1765, you need to burn the iso as an image, not bootable doesn't really make sense in terms of burning software. Did you check a box that said not bootable or what?
[04:27] <dr`venom> I know its not my video card or my monitor because they work perfectly on suse
[04:27] <bruenig> rukuartic, yeah, has it changed?
[04:27] <kitche> dr`venom: see I don't even mess with the window managers resolution thing since usually they onyl show like five resolutions
[04:27] <Mad3Max3> sethk, I get .. card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , device 0: ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog] 
[04:27] <dr`venom> yea
[04:27] <K1765> Does it have to be bootable or not bootable?
[04:27] <rukuartic> bruenig: Hmm I seem to remember it when I installed wine, that was some time ago.
[04:27] <DreamingRom> you have to write your resolution in the xorg.conf i think
[04:27] <dr`venom> I did
[04:27] <dr`venom> and the resolution was not offored
[04:27] <bruenig> K1765, by burning it as an image, it will be bootable. You cannot burn it as an image, assuming the image is not corrupted and have it not be bootable.
[04:27] <dr`venom> maybe it will do it this time
[04:28] <K1765> kk
[04:28] <sureshot> hey all does wine do directx9c
[04:28] <bruenig> dr`venom, have you tried doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then just selecting defaults until you get to resolution and then making your changes that way?
[04:28] <DreamingRom> :(
[04:28] <dr`venom> bruenig, nope, I will give that a try next
[04:28] <kitche> sueshot: wine doesn't do directx9c last time I checked and that was last week
[04:29] <steeltoes1234> ok...   package wine is not available, but is referred to as a different package.  this may mean the package is missing, or obsoleted, or is only avaiable from another source E: package wine  has no installation candidate
[04:29] <kitche> sureshot*
[04:29] <dr`venom> I have to reinstall nvidia drivers first. I reinstalled ubuntu
[04:29] <steeltoes1234> ok so what does that mean???
[04:29] <fatsheep> what's a good native CPU benchmark program?
[04:29] <sureshot> kitche thanks if it did it would answer a lot of problems thanks again
[04:29] <v3l0ct> K1765, this is what you need.  it's a powertoy that will burn an .iso properly in windows  http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[04:29] <jim__> how interesting no wine in apt currently for edgy
[04:29] <steeltoes1234> im running dapper
[04:30] <K1765> would people stop sending me that, the link takes 10 minutes to load, and isorecorder doesnt work, just gives me error here error there
[04:30] <kitche> sureshot: think wine needs a patch to use directx anyways
[04:30] <starsky-hutchy> jim__, probably still testing it ?
[04:30] <tnnc> can someone tell me where the sutoinstall script is for automatix
[04:30] <steeltoes1234> how can i install wine??????
[04:30] <kitche> !wine
[04:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:30] <jim__> K1765, are you in linux now or windoze?
[04:30] <v3l0ct> how am i supposed to know that's been sent to you before? magic?
[04:31] <K1765> i just burned it, seeing if linux will work now
[04:31] <K1765> If not i give up
[04:31] <v3l0ct> tnnc, sutoinstall?
[04:31] <K1765> ill be back
[04:31] <unforgiving> how i reinstall the java plugin in the firefox?
[04:32] <sureshot> i have ced and it does not run any of my 9c files :_
[04:32] <dr`venom> should I install both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev?
[04:32] <bpfick> unforgiving do you use easyubuntu?
[04:32] <v3l0ct> unforgiving, open synaptic, find the file and right click on it, it gives you an option to reinstall
[04:33] <unforgiving> bpfick: yes
[04:33] <Lubix> hey ubuntu!
[04:33] <Thirsteh> Hi Lubix
[04:33] <Mez> Lubix, hello
[04:34] <Lubix> how goes it this evening?
[04:34] <Amaranth> Xenguy: Having fun with ubotu?
[04:34] <tnnc> can someone tell me where to find the autoinstall script for automatix thanks
[04:34] <Lubix> whats ubotu?
[04:34] <mrkris> anyone happen to remember the ubuntu package/tutorial that explained how to get all the non-free stuff working, eg: flash, wmv, etc ?
[04:34] <kitche> a bot Lubix
[04:34] <rukuartic> tnnc: I don't know the link off hand, and I"m not being smart, but its the first link off of google
[04:34] <Amaranth> !automatic > tnnc
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <v3l0ct> tnnc, www.getautomatix.com
[04:34] <Amaranth> !restricted > mrkris
[04:34] <dr`venom> question guys, when I am installing the linux-restricted-modules, should I keep the 386 that are already installed or get the 686
[04:34] <Mez> !bot > Lubix
[04:35] <Amaranth> !automatix > tnnc
[04:35] <ripper> if the xserver gives the message sync out of range, is there anyway i can simply get it back to defaults.
[04:35] <rukuartic> !botsnack
[04:35] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:35] <mrkris> thanks ;D
[04:35] <ripper> ?
[04:35] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: Do you have a Pentium 4 or equal?
[04:35] <dr`venom> I have a pentium 4 3.2 a 478 socket
[04:35] <dr`venom> ht
[04:35] <Lubix> hey has anyone used monodevlope to open a c#project from vs2003?
[04:35] <dr`venom> hyper threading
[04:36] <rukuartic> dr`venom: try uname -a
[04:36] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: Go with the linux-686 kernel which should auto-fetch linux-restricted-modules-686
[04:36] <dr`venom> cool
[04:36] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: It's no use if you're not running a 686 kernel, tho
[04:36] <lando> im fairly new to ubuntu and i was wondering when edgy eft does get release will it just automagically upgrade?
[04:36] <v3l0ct> lando, no
[04:36] <Lubix> should be u get get it now
[04:36] <dr`venom> so, it does not matter?
[04:36] <jim__> lnado no
[04:36] <lando> or will i have to update my repo's
[04:36] <dr`venom> which one I use?
[04:36] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: uname -a will show you what you're currently running, like rukuartic said.
[04:37] <jim__> lando: have to update your sources.list
[04:37] <jim__> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:37] <steeltoes1234> what exactly is a repository?
[04:37] <Lubix> so no one has used monodevelop?
[04:37] <rukuartic> Is there any way I can tell ACPI how long it takes my battery to drain/charge so it can know when I mouseover?
[04:37] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: As a rule of thumb, if you have the option between 386 and 686, take the 686. They are simply architectures and 386 dates back to early Pentium 3, if I'm not mistaken.
[04:37] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: Compatability, you know :)
[04:38] <capgadget> 383 is P1 P2
[04:38] <capgadget> 386
[04:38] <jim__> steeltoes1234: repository is where all the packages for software is
[04:38] <dr`venom> it says mariano-desktop 2.6.15-27-386 #1 Preempt sat sept 16 UTC 2006 i686
[04:38] <v3l0ct> dr`venom, actually use a smp kernel, since Hyperthreading supports it
[04:38] <capgadget> Oops nope
[04:38] <Thirsteh> capgadget: Yes, thank you, I thought it was earlier than that, too
[04:38] <hondje> P1 was a nice name for 586 ... 5 so pentium
[04:38] <Thirsteh> dr`venom: Oh yes, what v3l0ct said, you'll want the 686-SMP
[04:38] <Thirsteh> (kernel)
[04:38] <ubuntumah> how can i install wlassistant??
[04:38] <dr`venom> ok let me look for this bad boy
[04:38] <Mez> !wlassistant
[04:38] <ubotu> wlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 139 kB, installed size 580 kB
[04:39] <Lubix> so i just upgraded to edgy is cool
[04:39] <v3l0ct> ubuntumah, it's in the repos
[04:39] <steeltoes1234> jim_: packages on my hdd or on the net?
[04:39] <K1765> ok
[04:39] <lando> would it be best to do a clean install of edgy or will upgrading do just fine ? and thanks for the help guys. if it werent for this room i would of never made the leap into linux as gracefully
[04:39] <Mez> !adept > ubuntumah
[04:39] <jim__> steeltoes1234: on the net
[04:39] <capgadget> forgetting pentiums as fast as I can on amd64 now
[04:39] <Mez> !synaptic > ubuntumah
[04:39] <K1765> Now it is saying "Starting Caldera DR-DOS" and goes to a command prompt-ish thing
[04:39] <v3l0ct> lando, clean install is always best
[04:39] <steeltoes1234> ok cool   thanks
[04:39] <black_13> is there a psuedo package that install gcc and other dev tools
[04:39] <ubuntumah> yes i know but i cant use make command
[04:39] <Lubix> lando, i just upgraded so far so good
[04:39] <dr`venom> I dont see any 686 smp on the restricted modules
[04:39] <dr`venom> I just see 686
[04:40] <steeltoes1234> jim_: sorry for the noob questions but i am very much a noob to linux
[04:40] <capgadget> smp is just for the kernel
[04:40] <v3l0ct> black_13, yes.  select build-essentials
[04:40] <ianmacgregor> black_13: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:40] <jim__> steeltoes1234: no probs, I have been a noob for the last 3 years
[04:40] <lando> ah i see. thanks for the all the help. much obliged
[04:40] <K1765> Now it is saying "Starting Caldera DR-DOS" and goes to a command prompt-ish thing
[04:40] <ianmacgregor> jim__: lol
[04:40] <steeltoes1234> jim_: LOL
[04:40] <atom_> something happened to my audio... i was playing music and rebooted due to updates and now no audio from music or video... what can cause this?
[04:41] <black_13> gotcha
[04:41] <steeltoes1234> ok so what is this whole edgy thing ive been hearing about?
[04:41] <wasabi_> hello
[04:41] <capgadget> Caldera DR-DOS  M$ had topay big money for killing it.
[04:41] <Mez> !edgy > steeltoes1234
[04:41] <jim__> steeltoes1234: the next release of ubuntu
[04:41] <K1765> Now it is saying "Starting Caldera DR-DOS" and goes to a command prompt-ish thing
[04:41] <K1765> whats this mean?? zz
[04:41] <BrentNewhall> Hi, all.  Anyone here who can help me with a network problem installing Dapper on a MacBook?
[04:41] <steeltoes1234> jim_: is it an official release?
[04:41] <jim__> steeltoes1234: every 6 months officially" they release a new verion with a new name
[04:41] <wasabi_> i'm trying to install Bundle::CPAN in cpan and i keep getting this message about LWP not available
[04:42] <ubuntumah> i cant use synabtic because i cant connect to my wireless net
[04:42] <rukuartic> BrentNewhall: Is it a problem ding a network install, or is it networking problems during install?
[04:42] <steeltoes1234> jim_: would it be advisable to switch to edgy then???
[04:42] <K1765> omfg
[04:42] <wasabi_> i'm trying to install Bundle::CPAN in cpan and i keep getting this message about LWP not available
[04:42] <K1765> Could someone answer plz :)
[04:42] <v3l0ct> steeltoes1234, edgy is still a release candidate,  should be fully released next week
[04:43] <jim__> steeltoes1234: after the 26th when it becomes the official release, right now its technically the development release
[04:43] <ianmacgregor> K1765: If on one knows the answer, how should we respond?
[04:43] <rukuartic> ubuntumah: Oh here, type "iwconfig" in the terminal, see if it recognizes your wireless device
[04:43] <BrentNewhall> rukuartic: Well, I can boot off the LiveCD, then set up a temporary local install, but when I chroot to the local install to install lilo, I can't reach the 'net.
[04:43] <v3l0ct> K1765, what are you trying to install
[04:43] <steeltoes1234> jim_: and would i have to reinstall ubuntu clean or can i just get an update?
[04:43] <rukuartic> BrentNewhall: Its a wireless thing? Try opening up a terminal and typing "iwconfig"
[04:43] <BrentNewhall> I can access the 'net from the LiveCD, but not from Ubuntu.
[04:43] <Lubix> does no one uses monodev?
[04:43] <ripper> !edgy
[04:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:43] <steeltoes1234> jim_: oh ok in that case ill wait till next week then
[04:43] <ripper> !schedule
[04:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:44] <dr`venom> hey guys, i'm a bit lost there are a few 686 linux restricted modules : 2.6.15-25, 26, and 27
[04:44] <K1765> I burned ubuntu, and ran it on the cd, and its saying "Starting Caldera DR-Dos"
[04:44] <dr`venom> which one should I get
[04:44] <jim__> steeltoes1234: just update, you would ecit your sources and then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:44] <BrentNewhall> rukuartic: I've also plugged directly into the router, and I actually see an IP address on eth0 then.
[04:44] <dr`venom> I dont see the smp one
[04:44] <jim__> steeltoes1234: it then magically becomes edgy
[04:44] <BrentNewhall> But still no network connectivity, even after an "ifconfig eth0 down" and "eth0 up"
[04:45] <rukuartic> BrentNewhall: Often times routers have internal websites (eg: for configuration) can you access that?
[04:45] <BrentNewhall> Ahh, good question.
[04:45] <K1765> 834 people and no1 knows :/
[04:45] <Lubix> get can someone give me a good just general linux chat channel to use
[04:45] <ianmacgregor> Lubix: #linux
[04:45] <dr`venom> k1765 everyone is trying
[04:45] <rukuartic> K1765: Give us a second... Caldera Dr-DOS is not something any of us have heard of
[04:46] <ianmacgregor> rukuartic: True
[04:46] <ripper> i've heard of it
[04:46] <BrentNewhall> rukuartic: I actually can't answer that question at the moment; this is my only usable computer at the moment, and it's the one I'm trying to instal Ubuntu on.
[04:46] <jim__> epp caldera Dr-Dos talk about old school
[04:46] <ripper> just dont know much about it.
[04:46] <v3l0ct> caldera has been dead for years now
[04:46] <ripper> yeah no shit.
[04:46] <ripper> whoops
[04:46] <ripper> sorry bout the language
[04:46] <K1765> lol ripper
[04:46] <ianmacgregor> hehe
[04:46] <Lubix> ver goot
[04:46] <dr`venom> I'm going to install all 686
[04:46] <dr`venom> lol
[04:46] <dr`venom> it should be fine
[04:46] <BoogieWoogieMan> BOOOGIE WOOOGIE Amaranth !!!! this is SO fun!!!!
[04:46] <Lubix> now whats a good firewall for me here on ubuntu?
[04:46] <jim__> Dr-DOS become either open dos or free dos
[04:47] <BrentNewhall> rukuartic: Can you give me a few diagnostics steps to run?  Would greatly appreciate it.
[04:47] <ripper> Lubix iptables.
[04:47] <K1765> I ran the cd i burned ubuntu on and that started up so
[04:47] <ripper> if you cant figure that out, @ Lubix use firestarter
[04:47] <ianmacgregor> Lubix: You already have a firewall (iptables), but Irecommend Firestarter as the gui firewall setup app
[04:47] <v3l0ct> k1765, i dunno what you burned but that's not it
[04:47] <Lubix> fiaif any good?
[04:47] <rukuartic> BrentNewhall: Hurr... do you use DHCP? If you do you could try "sudo dhclient"
[04:47] <steeltoes1234> jim_: ok i think that i have now installed wine, how do i know if it is installed or how do i open it.   i dont see it in my menus
[04:48] <K1765> lol, it was ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:48] <ripper> i dont use a firewall on my ubuntu box, its all handled by a box running obsd's packetfilter
[04:48] <K1765> right from site, so
[04:48] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: Its not an actual program, you run your EXE's like this: "wine <program name>"
[04:48] <BrentNewhall> rukuartic: Yep, I use DHCP.  I'll give that a try.
[04:48] <jim__> steeltoes1234: did you install winecfg as well?
[04:48] <rukuartic> jim__: preinstalled
[04:48] <ripper> dhcp is always giving me problems :| thats why i went to static LAN ips
[04:48] <steeltoes1234> jim_: i dont think so.    what is winecfg?
[04:48] <v3l0ct> ripper: my router has a firewall so I use that :)
[04:49] <rukuartic> ripper: Yeah... well I use DHCP for my desktop/laptop and static for my server
[04:49] <ripper> v3l0ct heh im sure its not nearly as robust as PF
[04:49] <jim__> steeltoes1234: type winecfg
[04:49] <ripper> v3l0ct what kind of router (im sure its no cisco :) )
[04:49] <v3l0ct> ripper true but good enough
[04:49] <v3l0ct> ripper netgear
[04:49] <ripper> eww @ netgear
[04:49] <ripper> thats nasty
[04:49] <v3l0ct> 3 years and still running,
[04:49] <ripper> linksys ftw!
[04:49] <v3l0ct> that's your opinion
[04:50] <ripper> well i just dont like netgears lack of configurability at all.
[04:50] <v3l0ct> i can configure mine plenty :)
[04:50] <K1765> well, this is fairly gay, dunno how caldera dr-dos started up from the linux cd... :S
[04:50] <steeltoes1234> jim_: ok i just ran that
[04:50] <Lubix> hey i got a like total sacrilige question....i downloaded a copy of xp that was from my gf's laptop, i have a licensed copy but its at home, the install totally sucks it cant connect to the net or nothing is it b/c it was designed for her hardware?
[04:50] <steeltoes1234> jim_: and i got a window that opened up
[04:51] <Lubix> i only need it cuz i do vs2003 for a class
[04:51] <ripper> heh im sure you cant configure the SPI firewall thats embedded in it.....i havent seen one that allows it yet @ netgear
[04:51] <rukuartic> K1765: Ur, I hate to tell you this, but I think it was installed before hand.
[04:51] <jim__> steeltoes1234: get through that, then find yourself a windoze executable
[04:51] <Bensr20det> hello
[04:51] <v3l0ct> ripper i can on mine
[04:51] <ripper> what model?
[04:51] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: if you go into "/home/usrname/.wine/drive_c/" and look around, there are a few like notepad
[04:51] <v3l0ct> FR114P
[04:51] <K1765> caldera dr-dos is on every pc o.0
[04:51] <jim__> steeltoes1234: then from console wine <whatevertheheckitis.exe>
[04:51] <steeltoes1234> jim_: with wine, will i able to access my other HDD (windows xp) from ubuntu>
[04:51] <rukuartic> K1765: because I'm pretty sure its not on ANY of my pc's
[04:52] <agent> Lubix: probably.... just install ubuntu... no need to taint your computer with that x...p... creature :P
[04:52] <v3l0ct> ripper we'll just agree to disagree :)
[04:52] <K1765> lol its on there...
[04:52] <Lubix> agent: i need visual studio 03 for school
[04:52] <ripper> v3l0ct the newer ones seem to lack alot :)
[04:52] <jim__> steeltoes1234: yes and no, question is a little more complex than that
[04:52] <capgadget> Probably booted dr-dos because it can't boot the iso.  You have to set the bios to boot from the cd
[04:52] <rukuartic> K1765: Keep in mind you are talking to a CS major who works on computers frequently... its not on every computer.
[04:52] <ripper> v3l0ct there is some netgear equip i will use...like their switches.
[04:52] <agent> v3l0ct: i say you arm wrestle for it
[04:52] <v3l0ct> ripper like I said mine is almost 3 years old and i've hear the newer ones aren't that good
[04:52] <ripper> i just like linksys, and building my own equipment.
[04:53] <jim__> steeltoes1234: wine creates a "fake" windows to operate from
[04:53] <Bensr20det> How do i check/change my color depth?
[04:53] <Lubix> do you think that visual studio would run in wine?
[04:53] <K1765> ill try to see if its set to boot cd first :S
[04:53] <__mikem> screw armwrestling, lets really wrestle
[04:53] <ripper> v3l0ct you would figure they would get better with time, not worse.
[04:53] <v3l0ct> agent lol, nah. it's all about choice
[04:53] <Lubix> i dunno jack about wine
[04:53] <agent> Lubix: but seriously... thats probably your problem... windows usually is computer specific
[04:53] <Syco54645> anyone here successfully get flash player 9 working that can give me a hand?
[04:53] <rukuartic> Lubix: I think they have an app compatability thing on their site... winehq.org
[04:53] <ripper> v3l0ct but look at windows :) vista is a repeat of ME w/ better gfx if you ask me, its a POS
[04:53] <v3l0ct> ripper yeah, i would think so.
[04:53] <steeltoes1234> jim_: but would i be able to run programs that are installed in my windows HDD through wine>
[04:54] <v3l0ct> ripper i haven't run windows in over a year.  i have no clue about it
[04:54] <Lubix> i would love to drop xp all together its a hassle
[04:54] <jim__> steeltoes1234: a solid maybe, depends on how intertied it is in windows
[04:54] <ripper> i have one windows box, it's not allowed on the LAN
[04:54] <capgadget> Stuff the "runs" on wine is on http://appdb.winehq.org/
[04:54] <SkramX> hey
[04:54] <Bensr20det> How do I check/change the color depth of my screen in edgy??
[04:54] <jim__> steeltoes1234: you may have to use wine to install it into linux
[04:54] <rukuartic> ripper: Maybe for the power user, but here's the deal. If everyone ran computers as powerful as linux, imagine what would happen when the ignorant ones installed spyware and stuff on them, its like taking a knife away from a madman and giving him a shotgun and handgrenade stash
[04:54] <ScreaminIke> what package do i need to install my nvidia drivers? my x won't work with this new card...
[04:54] <Lubix> so you fellas should be proud i turned my co-worker onto ubuntu today
[04:54] <agent> Lubix: another idea: run a windows emulator on ubuntu
[04:54] <SkramX> im using the 6 boot cd.. and after it uncompresses the kernel my monitor says it has gone out of range and shuts down
[04:54] <SkramX> i have tried safe graphics mode
[04:54] <steeltoes1234> well most important is can i run World of Warcraft through wine?????
[04:54] <rukuartic> Lubix: Whoo! :3
[04:55] <Lubix> agent: where might i get one?
[04:55] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: Thats more of a cedega thing
[04:55] <jim__> steeltoes1234: yes
[04:55] <ripper> rukuartic hmm i like the idea of giving a madman a shotgun & grenade stash.
[04:55] <ScreaminIke> steeltoes1234 yea... cedega
[04:55] <zorba64> ScreaminIke, nvidia-glx
[04:55] <BrentNewhall> BRB
[04:55] <jim__> steeltoes1234: not cedega gargabe
[04:55] <SkramX> ?
[04:55] <ScreaminIke> zorba64, i've installed that, and x still crashes. i'm using irssi as root right now...
[04:55] <steeltoes1234> ok good.    that is importaint!    VERY importaint!!  LOL
[04:55] <ScreaminIke> in terminal
[04:55] <steeltoes1234> now i just gotta figure out how
[04:55] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: People around here don't like cedega because you have to pay for it... apparently its really good though.
[04:55] <ripper> im seeing linux go more mainstream everyday due to ubuntu
[04:56] <jim__> steeltoes1234: go to www.winehq.com there are a few tweaks you have to make to get it working correctly in wine
[04:56] <ripper> i think canonical is up to something here
[04:56] <agent> Lubix: there is qemu (open source) and vmware (not open source) that i know of... i have used both before with success
[04:56] <steeltoes1234> what is cedega?
[04:56] <ripper> cedega is a wineX
[04:56] <rukuartic> steeltoes1234: wine + better support for 3d stuff.
[04:56] <ScreaminIke> steeltoes1234 google for it
[04:56] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: cedega is pretty crappy...
[04:56] <jim__> steeltoes1234: a pay-as-you-go ripoff of wine
[04:56] <steeltoes1234> woh.   you lost me here.    what is wineX
[04:56] <ubuntumah> how can i use web shared key in wireless network??
[04:56] <Mark1412> hi, who knows of a rar file opener
[04:56] <ripper> unrar @ Marconius__
[04:56] <black_13> isnt there win32 clone out now
[04:56] <agent> steeltoes1234: wine thats not free as in freedom ;)
[04:57] <ripper> unrar @ Mark1412
[04:57] <SkramX> ?
[04:57] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: i have better luck with bland old wine than with cedega
[04:57] <ScreaminIke> oh, anyone here able to help me out with this nvidia thing?
[04:57] <kitche> jiim__: you do know you don't have to pay to get cedega you know that right
[04:57] <Mark1412> ripper: Where can i get htat/
[04:57] <dr`venom> what nvidia thing?
[04:57] <ripper> Mark just do sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:57] <Mark1412> oh kay
[04:57] <Mark1412> thanks
[04:57] <kitche> jim__: since it is open source just the copyrighted stuff you can't get
[04:57] <ScreaminIke> what do i need to install to use my nvidia card?
[04:57] <rukuartic> ScreaminIke: Haha... nobody likes dealing with graphics drivers issues, don't take it personally if responses come lsow
[04:57] <ubuntumah> how can i use web shared key in wireless network??
[04:57] <Lubix> agent: im downloading qemu now
[04:57] <ripper> Mark1412 i dont see why ubuntu wouldnt handle .rar by default though
[04:57] <agent> !nvidia > ScreaminIke
[04:58] <v3l0ct> ScreaminIke, I use ATI so i dunno
[04:58] <enyawix> bugs bugs bugs
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> rukuartic, i usually ignore drivers questions... i don't know them...
[04:58] <rukuartic> ripper: Propriatory?
[04:58] <agent> *squash* *squash*
[04:58] <Mark1412> ripper: its not supported
[04:58] <K1765> k i give up :/
[04:58] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: what do you mean?  the linux drivers? or do you want tv out
[04:58] <ripper> pfft
[04:58] <enyawix> why have support for a file system and not support it in the kernel?
[04:58] <ripper> i dont have troubles with .rar
[04:58] <rukuartic> ScreaminIke: While you're waiting you could check the forums... There might be something there.
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> that's all fine and dandy, agent, but i'm in command line. can't use the interweb...
[04:58] <agent> Lubix: from what i remember, 98 works  best on qemu
[04:58] <rukuartic> K1765: How old is your computer?
[04:58] <ripper> and didnt have to install unrar either.
[04:58] <Mark1412> how do you extract .rar filese then
[04:58] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: elinks
[04:58] <K1765> year old..
[04:58] <agent> ScreaminIke: did not know that
[04:58] <ripper> right click on them :) and click extract
[04:59] <ripper> or in the terminal type unrar blah.rar
[04:59] <ubuntumah> how can i use web shared key in wireless network??
[04:59] <steeltoes1234> i dont understand how wine works
[04:59] <agent> ScreaminIke: lynx, links or elinks (im sure there are others) :P
[04:59] <ScreaminIke> 's ok. i just really want to be able to, you know... use my computer
[04:59] <steeltoes1234> oh well
[04:59] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: to make it even easier get gpm
[04:59] <Mark1412> my archive manager says it doesnt support
[04:59] <enyawix> hod to build firestarter fron source :(
[04:59] <ScreaminIke> sudo apt-get install gpm ?
[04:59] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: yes
[04:59] <ScreaminIke> thx
[04:59] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: then do a sudo apt-get install gpm
[04:59] <ScreaminIke> can i use that in command line?
[05:00] <rukuartic> K1765: I'm inclined to question that, since DR-DOS was last updated in the 90's
[05:00] <Bensr20det> How do I check/change the color depth of my screen??
[05:00] <Mark1412> ok ill try unrar
[05:00] <Mark1412> thanks rippe
[05:00] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: what exactly are you trying to do with the card?  di dyou install the drivers and have x give errors?
[05:00] <Lubix> agent: how does qemu work
[05:00] <kitche> Bensr20det: in your xorg.conf is how i do it
[05:00] <rukuartic> K1765: Sorry wrong there
[05:00] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: yes.  elinks supports tabs
[05:00] <jim__> yeesh talk about client blow up
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Freedos finially hit version 1.0
[05:00] <steeltoes1234> how do i use wine????
[05:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:00] <ScreaminIke> i haven't installed the drivers yet.
[05:00] <K1765> lol seeing how its on every pc with windows u shouldnt
[05:00] <Dr_willis> steeltoes1234,  wine whatever.exe
[05:00] <ScreaminIke> i don't know how.
[05:00] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: then why can you not get into x?
[05:00] <agent> !qemu > Lubix
[05:00] <kitche> steeltoes1234: open up a console it's a console app sorta
[05:00] <Xenguy_> steeltoes1234: you needn't wine alot ;-)
[05:00] <Bensr20det> kitche: how do i edit that file?
[05:01] <ScreaminIke> no x. it just gives me B$...
[05:01] <agent> Lubix: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[05:01] <ScreaminIke> if i had a gui, it'd be so much easier to find these crash logs
[05:01] <rukuartic> K1765: No you're wrong there. DR-DOS is something you purchase and install on your computer. Its 3rd party software. MS-DOS is what you're thinking of.
[05:01] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: that doesnt sound right
[05:01] <kitche> Bensr20det: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can also use nano if you don't like vim
[05:01] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: the logs are in /var/logs or should be
[05:01] <jim__> kitche: to answer your question before my client went haywire. tried cedega twice and liked it neaither time
[05:01] <agent> omg another usplash theme... thats like the 4th theme update today ;)
[05:01] <ScreaminIke> i'll brb.
[05:01] <Xenguy_> K1765: you definitely want FreeDOS
[05:01] <Syco54645> ScreaminIke: did you crash then this happened?
[05:01] <Alakazamz0r> anyone got webhosting experience?
[05:01] <ScreaminIke> hold responsces, plz
[05:01] <rukuartic> Xenguy_: I don't think he wants either o_o;
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Freedos even comes on a live cd. :)
[05:02] <kitche> jim__: it's more for games then anything but wine is catching up to it
[05:02] <Xenguy_> rukuartic: mwuha
[05:02] <steeltoes1234> ok but whatever i want to open up in wine i need to have in my /home directory?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> dosbox is great for playing the old dos games.
[05:02] <rukuartic> Xenguy_: If his comp's a year old, Iunno. Maybe dr-dos messed up his boot.
[05:02] <Xenguy_> rukuartic: it's always possible
[05:02] <Dr_willis> steeltoes1234,  depends.. ya can put the .exe's wheever you want..
[05:02] <Lubix> agent: i know ima probably sound stupid here but do i have to install xp or what goes on here?
[05:02] <K1765> well if its not on windows, then its in the .iso, because thats the only thing it could be running
[05:02] <jim__> steeltoes1234: you just need to know what directory its in
[05:03] <rukuartic> Oh yeah, does anyone have tips on how to get GRUB back if you install Ubuntu, then Windows, but still want GRUB?
[05:03] <kitche> steeltoes1234: well after you isntall the app it will be in /home/<user>/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files most likely
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Lubix,  huh? what xp are you refering to?
[05:03] <kitche> rukuartic: reinstall grub
[05:03] <steeltoes1234> ok now im really confused
[05:03] <jim__> steeltoes1234: wine /home/jim/downloads/winejunk/grabit.exe works as well
[05:03] <Dr_willis> steeltoes1234,  wine /path/to/whever/you/keep/your/stuff.exe
[05:03] <agent> Lubix: you can install almost any x32 os... any linux and windows from 95 until xp... but i recommend 98 as its the fastest and its compatible with your program
[05:03] <kitche> Xenguy_: deltree
[05:03] <rukuartic> Can anyone comfirm that DrDOS is in the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:03] <Xenguy_> kitche: good handlin' :-)
[05:04] <agent> Lubix: think of is as a "computer inside your computer" :)
[05:04] <rukuartic> K1765: Where'd you get the install cd?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> rukuartic,  its not on there as far as ive seen.
[05:04] <Lubix> agent: im working on it ill let u know if get it up
[05:04] <jim__> go to the downloads section at ubuntu.com when your browsing the d/ls you'll find a payload
[05:04] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: with wine it makes a virtual c drive that you specify the location for.  usually ~/.wine/drive_c/
[05:05] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: that is where it will install all apps to.  so to run them go to like  wine "~/.wine/drive_c/program files/foobar2000/foobar.exe"
[05:05] <steeltoes1234> ok.   now can i access my other hdd now from unbutu?
[05:05] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: ir what ever
[05:05] <Syco54645> or rather
[05:05] <Xenguy_> !root
[05:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:05] <jim__> steeltoes1234: maybe
[05:05] <agent> Lubix: i have to get going.... refer to that howto and qemu website (website has good documentation)... it works because i used it as far back as 2 years ago :)
[05:06] <ScreamingIke> hrm
[05:06] <ScreamingIke> ok. so i installed nvidia-glx... but x still crashes
[05:06] <jim__> steeltoes1234: you may have to mount it, you may not
[05:06] <Syco54645> ScreamingIke: what did you figure out?
[05:06] <ScreamingIke> do i need a reboot to reload the kernel?
[05:06] <steeltoes1234> like if i go in the menue, places/ computer   i can see both my HDDs and al partitions on my other but cannot access them since it is window
[05:06] <jim__> ScreamingIke yes
[05:06] <ScreamingIke> hrm. thx. brb
[05:06] <Syco54645> ScreamingIke: yes
[05:07] <enyawix> ScreamingIke chroot if it breaks your install
[05:07] <Lubix> agent: alirght thanks for the heads up on that app tho
[05:07] <agent> Lubix: your welcome
[05:07] <enyawix> where do i supmit fixes?
[05:07] <Syco54645> what do i need to have installed to have firefox play flash.  i am just trying to get this thing to work with the regular old ubuntu supported flash
[05:07] <jim__> steeltoes1234: sounds like ntfs, have to get the libs for that installed
[05:07] <rukuartic> K1765: There ya go, found a topic on your problem, and it is related to DR-DOS
[05:08] <rukuartic> K1765: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268870&highlight=dr-dos
[05:08] <steeltoes1234> jim_ my C: drive is fat32
[05:08] <K1765> umm
[05:08] <jim__> then you should be able to access it and get to everything on it
[05:08] <c|int> hey
[05:08] <steeltoes1234> jim_: D: and  E: is ntfs
[05:09] <c|int> guess what guys, guess what I"m going try and do
[05:09] <rukuartic> K1765: Did you tell Nero to burn it as a bootable CD?
[05:09] <K1765> i just all to just load cd-rom, and it still loads that..
[05:09] <jim__> steeltoes1234: then you should be able to access it and get to everything on it
[05:09] <K1765> yes its a bootable cd, i used cd burner xp
[05:09] <K1765> I made sure it was :S
[05:09] <c|int> hey steeltoes1234, guess what I"m going try and do
[05:09] <steeltoes1234> jim_: hmmmm so did i install wine correctly then
[05:09] <rukuartic> K1765: You don't need that
[05:09] <steeltoes1234> c|int: what?
[05:10] <rukuartic> K1765: Just do an ordinary burn to CD
[05:10] <K1765> so it will be non-bootable?
[05:10] <jim__> steeltoes1234: wine has nothing to do with being able to "read" windows drives, its a windows emulator
[05:10] <atom_> anyone get this error while trying to install the new nvidia driver? "You appear to be runing an X server; please exit X before installing"
[05:10] <rukuartic> K1765: No... I think the burning software you're using does something funny to it
[05:10] <SkramX> i have the 6 LiveCD.. how do i do an install without the GUI-installer?
[05:10] <steeltoes1234> jim_: then what can i do to read my C: drive?
[05:11] <atom_> mount it if its fat32
[05:11] <atom_> if its ntfs ur buggered
[05:11] <rukuartic> K1765: It'll still be bootable, but you don't want to check the "make bootable" flag
[05:11] <dr`venom> so, I finally got ubuntu reinstalled and I also reinstalled the nvidia driver
[05:11] <c|int> about to install paragon, hard disk manager, on ubuntu :)
[05:11] <black_13> what package gives me the x11 headers
[05:11] <minerale> Does anyone know a program that lets one try regexes? I can't find a program that can understand some of the more advanced operators such as '\<'
[05:11] <pressingonalways> hello... i'm having extreme clock drifting in VM... I've enabled time syncronization and it isn't helping... any ideas anyone?
[05:11] <atom_> venom did u get any error?
[05:11] <jim__> atom_: you have to go command line wihtout x to install the drivers
[05:11] <dr`venom> however, I did not see an nvidia splash and I still dont get the resolution option of 1440x900
[05:11] <kitche> black_13: the xorg-dev packages
[05:11] <dr`venom> i'm really lost now
[05:12] <steeltoes1234> atom: i currently boot between the 2 drives by selecting it through the Bios.   if i mount my C drive will it cause problems trying to boot that into windows?
[05:12] <atom_> how so jim__?
[05:12] <K1765> wow
[05:12] <kitche> dr`venom: can you pastebin your xorg.conf
[05:12] <dr`venom> give me a sec
[05:12] <K1765> forget this. im going to bed... no point in wasting another disc
[05:12] <K1765> lol
[05:13] <jim__> atom_: ctrl alt f1 will get you to tty, then /proc/init.d/gdm stop to kill X
[05:13] <rukuartic> atom_: ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back
[05:13] <jim__> not if you kill gdm
[05:13] <dr`venom> I have to e-mail it to my self so that I can then paste it here
[05:13] <black_13> thanks
[05:13] <rukuartic> No problem K1765 you're welcome for all my help. </sarcasm>
[05:14] <Brydenn33> anyone wanna help me get wine 0.9.9 installed? having troubles
[05:14] <kitche> dr`venom you paste in a pastebin
[05:14] <steeltoes1234> guys if i try to mount my c drive so i can read it, will i have problems booting off that drive next time i want to boot into windows?
[05:14] <peeps> are you guys talking about problems with display after an edgy dist-upgrade
[05:14] <Mir1> hey, i'd like to know, how to use "inpud methods" in some progs, eg Firefox
[05:14] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Zo. Tell me about your problems.
[05:14] <kitche> !pastebin > dr`venom
[05:14] <dr`venom> I'm using a different computer to chat in here
[05:14] <jim__> steeltoes1234: nope
[05:14] <padan> ok i give up, what flippin package are the termcap libs in for ubuntu?
[05:14] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: well i'm having trouble making the file
[05:14] <jim__> steeltoes1234: mouning it just tells linux its there to read from
[05:15] <dr`venom> cool
[05:15] <dr`venom> got it
[05:15] <rukuartic> padan: Not sure, try "apt-cache search termcap"
[05:15] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: it starts doing its thing then i get errors
[05:15] <padan> every other distribution decides to name this like libtermcap or termcap
[05:15] <Eroick> hey, if I am running in low memory mode, will I be having issues?
[05:15] <padan> ruk, nothing
[05:15] <Brydenn33> want me to put it in pastebin for you to see?
[05:15] <steeltoes1234> i cant mount it
[05:15] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: anything is possible, but i would say no
[05:15] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: There any reason you aren't using the one in the repositories?
[05:15] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: why can you not mount it?  what is the error
[05:15] <Mir1> can i use "inpud methods" in Firefox??
[05:15] <Dr_willis> yea. edgy at least mounts the ntfs drivs where users can read the, :P
[05:16] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: yes, cuz the wine archive says 0.9.9 can run Exact Audio Copy. And i really want that app on linux
[05:16] <peeps> is there a more automatic method to setup xorg than using dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:16] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Aha. What errors are you running into?
[05:16] <Eroick> like, is 64mb of ram too little for Ubuntu with Fluxbox?
[05:16] <Brydenn33> plus from what i've read it's a great improvment
[05:16] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: let me show you via pastebin. one sec
[05:16] <dr`venom> ok, its at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27626/
[05:16] <padan> no
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Eroick,  should work.
[05:16] <Eroick> Dr_willis: smoothly?
[05:17] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: what is the error when you try to mount it
[05:17] <jim__> Eroik: I have had it use as little as 30 meg using fluxbox
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Eroick,  you aint allowed to change the question once we answer.. :)   with a minimal window manger it should be useable.
[05:17] <dr`venom> I dont even get all of those 7 resolutions
[05:17] <Eroick> Dr_willis: define useable.
[05:18] <padan> it will be plenty usable
[05:18] <padan> web + email + terms
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Eroick,  why dont you define it. :P
[05:18] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: here you go ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27627/
[05:18] <padan> dont expect to be able to run xgl or some such
[05:18] <steeltoes1234> syco54645: it says error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable    error: could not execute pmount
[05:18] <kitche> ok dr`venom remove all of those resolutions that you don't want to use
[05:18] <dr`venom> and there is no nvidia splash so I dont know if the nvidia driver is working
[05:18] <Syco54645> Eroick: you should be able to play frozen bubble too ;)
[05:18] <Lubix> if i have a ubuntu and xp partition on my system now but want to drop the xp partition and just use the ubuntu and have it take up the whole disk how do i do that?
[05:18] <La_PaRCa> padan, there use to be a termcap-compat package back in warty
[05:18] <Dr_willis> dr`venom,  it could be displaying so fast on/off that you dont see the splash
[05:18] <jim__> Eroick, it will work. I have seen as low as 30 meg mem usage with fluxbox loaded
[05:18] <Eroick> well, I want web, email, Openoffice or something of the like, a calendar :) and frozenbubble :P
[05:18] <dr`venom> ok
[05:18] <padan> there used to be, so i see in forum posts
[05:19] <padan> but its not in the repositories now
[05:19] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: you are using the command "sudo mount /dev/sda1 location"  ??
[05:19] <dr`venom> so, I will delete those resolutions and just add mine?
[05:19] <tokyoahead> hi all... I am trying to partition a USB stick with ubuntu 6.10 RC, which is in FAT16, but I get a WARNING: statfs /media/MY USB\040DISK: No such file or directory... what to do?
[05:19] <padan> you dont partition it
[05:19] <kitche> dr`venom: yeha that's how I do it it seems to work better
[05:19] <Eroick> hmm
[05:19] <La_PaRCa> padan, can always try and download it and install it by hand.
[05:19] <padan> you just mount it
[05:19] <peeps> Lubix: you mean without reinstalling ubuntu?
[05:19] <padan> its vfat
[05:19] <steeltoes1234> no i did it by right clicking on my systems drive then go to mount device
[05:19] <Eroick> i got an error installing that said a package was corrupt. is this a major issue?
[05:19] <Lubix> peeps: yes is it possible?
[05:19] <jim__> tokyoahead try mounting it as /dev/sda1
[05:19] <urz> hey
[05:19] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Ha! Looks like they forgot to end one of their lines... Might want to let the wine people know about this
[05:19] <urz> i am trying to use dh_make
[05:20] <padan> yes i know, but hte whole point of a package management system is to provide core libraries
[05:20] <padan> termcap is one of those things
[05:20] <padan> heh
[05:20] <urz> it aparently made a nearly empty rules file with about 4 includes
[05:20] <urz> using cdbs
[05:20] <atom_> lol i couldnt find me way out of alt - cnt - f1 ... whats the command to get back to desktop?
[05:20] <Lubix> i found emulation and i dont have a need for a full xp partition
[05:20] <johnficca> hi does anyone know how to play yahoo music videos with ubuntu
[05:20] <tokyoahead> jim__: thanks
[05:20] <peeps> Lubix: well, you can always just format the windows partition to ext3fs and keep it as a separate partition that ubuntu can use
[05:20] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: eh, so i'm screwed huh? heh
[05:20] <kitche> atom_: ctrnl-alt-f7
[05:20] <jim__> atom ctrl alt f7
[05:20] <dr`venom> I do this to every row right
[05:20] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Ur, you might be able to fix it if you go to /home/bryndenn/Desktop/wine-0.9.9/tools/wrc and putting a ; where it needs one somewher along line 2610 of lex.yy.c
[05:21] <kitche> dr`venom you can if you want to
[05:21] <atom_> thnx. is there a typable command to do it? i tried exit like dos :)
[05:21] <peeps> Lubix: i don't know if you can "merge" two partitions though
[05:21] <Brydenn33> lmfao sweet, i'll try that rukuartic
[05:21] <Lubix> peeps: hmmm interesting , ya that what i wanna do maybe ill just to a fresh install in a few days
[05:21] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: no i didnt do that in command lines
[05:21] <jim__> atom_: just use the 3 key combo to move back and forth
[05:21] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: (and a little secret, if you want to put all the output of a program into a text file, its "command > file"... but don't try it with something that takes input it'll mess up.)
[05:21] <Lubix> burn an iso of edgy and go fresh
[05:21] <kitche> atom_: just the keys
[05:21] <Bog> how do I get my network working in the ubuntu server vmware image?
[05:22] <jim__> cntl alt and then the tty you want f1-f9 (I think is max)
[05:22] <atom_> ok. explain to me how to kill xserver again plz jim?
[05:22] <Lubix> so who has used qemu?
[05:22] <Lubix> does it rock?
[05:22] <Xenguy> Brydenn33: '>' = output; '<' = input
[05:22] <dr`venom> ok, I am going to save it and then do I need to restart x?
[05:22] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: that should work.  i mount my /dev/sda1 drive to /mnt/sda, but you will need to make the mnt/sda directory
[05:22] <jim__> log in at tty
[05:22] <Brydenn33> lol i have no clue what you guys are talking about
[05:22] <kitche> dr`venom: yes you have to restart
[05:22] <Brydenn33> :(
[05:22] <pressingonalways> hello... i'm having extreme clock drifting in VM... I've enabled time syncronization and it isn't helping... any ideas anyone?
[05:22] <Xenguy> Brydenn33: command-line stuff
[05:22] <jim__> atom_: log in at tty, /proc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:22] <Lubix> if anyone has QEMU expirence please let me know i wanna know i got xp installing now
[05:22] <Xenguy> Brydenn33: learn it now, or use it later :-)
[05:22] <atom_> thnx jim
[05:23] <Bog> pressingonalways: what's extreme?
[05:23] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Haha, you know how you copied and pasted all that stuff? If you typed "make depend > output" it puts all that garbage in a little file called output
[05:23] <kitche> umm atom_: it's /etc/init.d/gdm stop not /proc/init.d/gdm
[05:23] <jim__> atom_: no prob
[05:23] <peeps> Lubix: if you don't want to reinstall, try the gparted livecd, it might be able to do what you want
[05:23] <Brydenn33> ohh
[05:23] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: ok then how do i do that?
[05:23] <jim__> atom_: eep
[05:23] <jim__> atom_: sorry, he's right
[05:23] <peeps> it works much better than the gparted version that omes with ubuntu
[05:23] <Brydenn33> so instead of just typing make type "make > output"
[05:23] <atom_> np. thnx bunches
[05:23] <Lubix> peeps: i will try it thanks, where can i get the iso?
[05:23] <dr`venom> Ok, and now for the moment of truth
[05:24] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Naw thats just a special circumstance
[05:24] <Xenguy> Brydenn33: see also 'tee' :-)
[05:24] <Brydenn33> hehe
[05:24] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: i am not sure if ubuntu comes with /mnt by default, but if not then type sudo mkdir /mnt
[05:24] <Eroick> a package in dbootstrap is corrupt. Is this a major problem? will my system install anyway??
[05:24] <jim__> kitche: good catch *feeling sheepish now*
[05:24] <Brydenn33> you guys and your shell's
[05:24] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: We'll stop flooding you with needless information now, its just a neat trick
[05:24] <Brydenn33> i swear
[05:24] <peeps> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:24] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Fiddle with it some time
[05:24] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: can i just pm you?  it will be easier
[05:24] <dr`venom> man, ubuntu's start up is quite sexy
[05:24] <Brydenn33> haha i will :)
[05:24] <DaveDaDj> HI, I have a airlink awlh3026 card. If I shutdown without deactivating the card I can't get back in the system without using recovery mode but never back into the desktop? Any thoughts?
[05:24] <rukuartic> dr`venom: Agreed :)
[05:24] <Lubix> ubuntu is sexy
[05:24] <pressingonalways> hello... i'm having extreme clock drifting in VM... I've enabled time syncronization and it isn't helping... any ideas anyone?
[05:24] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: yes please pm
[05:24] <dr`venom> I have to put this on my laptop
[05:25] <pressingonalways> my clock is going like 30% faster
[05:25] <dr`venom> I have to learn how to undervolt with linux first though
[05:25] <pressingonalways> i just synced it 10 minutes ago and it's already 5 minutes off
[05:25] <Mir1> do you have a name of a channel about firefox for ubuntu?
[05:25] <Brydenn33> so rukuartic where was that " ; " at in lex.yy.c that i needed to add?
[05:25] <dr`venom> yes
[05:25] <dr`venom> it works
[05:25] <Lubix> why would you uses VW is QEMU is free?
[05:25] <dr`venom> it worked
[05:25] <rukuartic> dr`venom: If you have a good processor it might support stepping, read up on powernowd
[05:25] <Lubix> is it better?
[05:25] <dr`venom> sure will
[05:25] <black_13> next question how do i get the develment binaries for qt3
[05:26] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: should be on line 2610 or one or two lines above or below it
[05:26] <dr`venom> hey guys, one last thing. I installed the 686 smp and when grub comes on there is a whole bunch of kernel versions
[05:26] <dr`venom> how can I take those off?
[05:26] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Just look for where it needs one and put it, you should be able to guess
[05:26] <Brydenn33> well how the hell am i supposed to know where to put it lol
[05:26] <dr`venom> can I do it via grub?
[05:26] <Brydenn33> hmm ok
[05:26] <Brydenn33> breb
[05:26] <Brydenn33> *brb
[05:26] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Every command ends in a ;
[05:26] <Brydenn33> ok
[05:26] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: You know its on line (whatever it was)
[05:26] <Brydenn33> well that is C/C++
[05:26] <Brydenn33> right
[05:26] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: So just look around
[05:26] <jim__> dr`venom nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:27] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: It might be blatantly obvious, or not so much... we'll see
[05:27] <dr`venom> in terminal?
[05:27] <jim__> dr`venom yuppers, dont screw up, nano doesnt make an auto backup
[05:27] <dr`venom> I dont know how to use nano
[05:27] <Brydenn33> haha i found it
[05:27] <Brydenn33> the idiots
[05:27] <Brydenn33> they totally forgot the ";"
[05:28] <Brydenn33> YY_BUFFER_STATE yy_scan_string (yyconst char * yystr )  <--- is what they had
[05:28] <dr`venom> is there a gui way?
[05:28] <jim__> dr`venom very easy, just make your changes and ctrl x to quit, y to save
[05:28] <dr`venom> ok
[05:28] <Lubix> hey my QEMU xp install is stalling at 38%
[05:28] <Brydenn33> k i'll try this all again rukuartic
[05:28] <jim__> sudo su kate
[05:28] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Ur could you copy and paste like 5 lines around that to pastebin?
[05:28] <dr`venom> I dont see anything in the file
[05:28] <Brydenn33> ok
[05:28] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: I've had some programming experince I might see it
[05:28] <dr`venom> just these commands
[05:28] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: let me do that really fast for ya
[05:28] <dr`venom> writeout
[05:28] <dr`venom> read file
[05:28] <Mir1> where can i find infos about tables, used in "inpud methods"?
[05:28] <dr`venom> get help
[05:28] <Bog> anyone here use vmware images?
[05:29] <dr`venom> and so forth
[05:29] <rbil> Bog, I do
[05:29] <peeps> manual changes mades to menu.lst are overwritten when you do upgrades though
[05:29] <peeps> happened to me
[05:29] <jim__> dr`venom sudo su, then cd /boot/grub
[05:29] <Bog> rbil: I downloaded the ubuntu image and I dont know how to get ethernet working
[05:29] <DraGgon> aki  br?
[05:29] <dr`venom> ok
[05:29] <jim__> dr`venom then kate menu.lst
[05:29] <Lubix> why is vwmare the choice of QEMU!?
[05:30] <Can0beans> trying to help a buddy with installing Drapper
[05:30] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: here ya are... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27628/
[05:30] <Can0beans> Dapper
[05:30] <DraGgon> u internet are broad band?
[05:30] <rbil> Bog, it should just use eth0 although it virtualizes it.
[05:30] <Eroick> is there an easy way to check MD5 sums from windows without cygwin?
[05:30] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645:   sorry i was unable to reply to your PM.   apparently i need to be registered with freenode first
[05:30] <Can0beans> and he is losing all video when he boots to the Live portion
[05:30] <dr`venom> i get command not found
[05:30] <Can0beans> any suggestions?
[05:30] <Bog> rbil: when I load the image there is only 127.0.0.1
[05:30] <DraGgon> netcardconfig?
[05:30] <jim__> dr`venom I thought kate shipped with ubuntu ?!?
[05:30] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: oh yeah i forgot about that.  well did it work?
[05:31] <Lubix> is there a icq client that runs in terminal?
[05:31] <DraGgon> yup
[05:31] <jim__> dr`venom try nano, its straight forward
[05:31] <kitche> jim__: isn't that a kde app?
[05:31] <peeps> jim__ probably only with kubuntu?  gnome has gedit
[05:31] <dr`venom> ok but what do I do when i'm in nano
[05:31] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: dunno going to try that now.    sorry i was trying to figure out how to regester.
[05:31] <kitche> dr`venom: it's has a menu at the bottom which will show you the commands to save and such
[05:31] <dr`venom> I dont see the anything in the file other than commands to execute with ctrl
[05:31] <jim__> dr`venom just use the arrow keys to navigate
[05:32] <DraGgon> sorry i dont speking inglish very well
[05:32] <DraGgon> :(
[05:32] <rbil> Bog, sorry I'm not familiar with that vm image, so don't know what to suggest to fix it.
[05:32] <INeedMailHelp> Hey there postfix isn't working, anyone help me?
[05:32] <kitche> dr`venom: did you do sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:32] <dr`venom> yea
[05:32] <dr`venom> and I get the blank screen with the commands at the bottom
[05:32] <INeedMailHelp> Hey there, how do I set up a mail server
[05:32] <Bog> rbil: I should jut find aother I think.  do you know of any minimal ubuntu images?
[05:32] <atom_> alt + ctrl + F7 didnt get me out of F1 shell window.. did i misread?
[05:32] <kitche> dr`venom: umm it should have opened up your menu.lst
[05:33] <INeedMailHelp> Hey there, how do I set up a mail server, it's not working for me
[05:33] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645:  man i cant make that /mnt    says already exists!
[05:33] <kitche> atom_: umm well if your X is killed it won't
[05:33] <rbil> Bog, no I don't. I run W2K and some other o/s's under vmplayer. No ubuntu. I run ubuntu as host.
[05:33] <peeps> you probably typed the file path wrong so it is giving you a new blank file
[05:33] <jim__> atom_: if you killed gdm then you have to restart x
[05:33] <dr`venom> it does say GNU nano file /boot/gub/menu.1st
[05:33] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: then just skip that step, go to the mkdir /mnt/sda part instead
[05:33] <atom_> i c
[05:33] <tokyoahead> guys if I want install ubuntu to a USB disk (sda), and want GRUB to be installed to it also, what is the device I have to install it to? "(hd0)"is proposed, I have to set it to "(sda0)" or what?
[05:33] <dr`venom> but there is nothing there other than the command menus
[05:33] <kitche> dr`venom: it's l such as L not 1
[05:34] <INeedMailHelp> Hey there, how do I set up a mail server, it's not working for me
[05:34] <Bog> rbil: thanks anyways
[05:34] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Sorry couldja give me the link again?
[05:34] <dr`venom> ok
[05:34] <Brydenn33> yes
[05:34] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: here ya are... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27628/
[05:34] <peeps> dr`venom and it's grub, not gub
[05:34] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: thanks, sorry I crashed :P
[05:34] <dr`venom> got it
[05:34] <dr`venom> im in
[05:34] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: i saw hehe :) i'm patient
[05:34] <dr`venom> I did 1 instead of L
[05:34] <steeltoes1234> Syso54645:  ok now im getting pissed.    when i go to the next step it tells me that it at /mnt doesnt exist!!!!!!!!
[05:35] <rbil> Bog, I've seen a vm image that simply lets you boot a livecd within it and run. If you're interested, google for it.
[05:35] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: return yy_scan_bytes(yystr,strlen(yystr) );
[05:35] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Is that the line?
[05:35] <Brydenn33> yes
[05:35] <Brydenn33> YY_BUFFER_STATE yy_scan_string (yyconst char * yystr )  <--- is what they had
[05:35] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Yea they totally did forget
[05:35] <tokyoahead> guys if I want install ubuntu to a USB disk (sda), and want GRUB to be installed to it also, what is the device I have to install it to? "(hd0)"is proposed, I have to set it to "(sda0)" or what?
[05:35] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Try again it should work now
[05:35] <Brydenn33> errr wait
[05:35] <Brydenn33> YY_BUFFER_STATE yy_scan_string (yyconst char * yystr )  <--- is like 2610
[05:35] <Bog> rbil: there are alot of images around and on vmware's site.  I want to create my own image I think with LAMP.  do you know od a cpanel clone?
[05:36] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: oh
[05:36] <dr`venom> so what do I do to the file
[05:36] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: hmm... i am not sure why it would do that.  it shouldnt.  check that the command is entered correctly. or just copy and past it from my chat
[05:36] <peeps> so I did a dist-upgrade, and it removed nvidia-glx as a broken package.  anyone know what that is about?
[05:36] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Hurr hold up, looking at it
[05:36] <dr`venom> I dont see any of those kernels that I see during start up
[05:36] <Eroick> is there an easy way to check MD5 sums from windows without cygwin?
[05:36] <Brydenn33> ok
[05:36] <PURESKILLZZZ> Hello all
[05:36] <Can0beans> he has an ati 3d rage iic
[05:36] <jbmigel> peeps you upgraded your kernel and borken your kernel modules... rebuild
[05:36] <rbil> Bog, no
[05:37] <peeps> what is best way to rebuild
[05:37] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Couldja send me the link for the make error again? I think we're closing down on it
[05:37] <kitche> Bog: there is many look up alternatives to cpanel
[05:37] <jbmigel> peeps did you install a custom nvidia driver or did you use package?
[05:37] <Pelo> evening folks
[05:37] <Brydenn33> ya
[05:37] <Bog> kitchen: do you know the name of any?  I will be googling more
[05:37] <Kewlb> I just used the disk manager to mount my windows (NTFS) drive into /media/windows
[05:37] <peeps> jbmigel i used nvidia beta drivers
[05:37] <Kewlb> but it tells me access is denied when I try to acces it
[05:37] <Pelo> does anyone know if I can control my screen brightness from within ubuntu ?
[05:38] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: ya i jsut cut and pasted from your chat.   it is still doing the same thing
[05:38] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: here you go ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27627/
[05:38] <jbmigel> peeps i suggest you "use" them again
[05:38] <dr`venom> do I just erase the kernel entries that I dont want to show up at the beginning?
[05:38] <kitche> Bog: I m nopt sure that exact name but it's VHCD or somethign close to that
[05:38] <peeps> hehe, ok i will try
[05:38] <kitche> dr`venom: yes
[05:38] <Bog> kitche: thanks
[05:38] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: i made a mistake... i typed the fix for it ;)
[05:38] <kitche> Bog: it's open source also :)
[05:38] <black_13> there has to be an easier way to install all of kde qt3 and so forth for developer
[05:38] <Bog> well, I want to start with a minimal ubuntu image
[05:39] <peeps> what is a nice console based IRC client?
[05:39] <kitche> black_13: yes install the packages
[05:39] <Can0beans> trying to help a buddy with installing Dapper
[05:39] <Can0beans> he has an ati 3d rage iic
[05:39] <Bog> kitche: ^^
[05:39] <Can0beans> and he is losing all video when he boots to the Live portion
[05:39] <kitche> peeps: epic4 irssi or BitchX
[05:39] <Can0beans> any suggestions?
[05:39] <black_13> kitche well an uber package
[05:40] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Yarg... this sounds like something they need to fix... Last shot, lemme see a few more lines of code above this... If I can't find it there I might not be able to
[05:40] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: now im having problems with the next step!
[05:41] <TubaSoldier> question: when it comes to DV Cams which ones are most compatible with linux or that work well. and how do they connect to linux?
[05:41] <Brydenn33> ok hold on rukuartic... i'll copy more :)
[05:41] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: if you are in xchat, or any other modern irc client you can just type sy and hit tab to complete my name, not sure if you are doing that as it was misspelled the one time
[05:41] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: what is the account on your machine called?
[05:41] <Syco54645> like your user name
[05:41] <Syco54645> just replace the `whoami` bit with the name
[05:41] <Syco54645> and it will work
[05:41] <Brydenn33> rukuartic: more code :) weeeeeeeee http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27629/
[05:42] <steeltoes1234> ok
[05:42] <dr`venom> do I have to save the menu.lst, or do I just exit
[05:43] <kitche> dr`venom: have to save
[05:43] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: alright ill try that
[05:43] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: ok
[05:43] <peeps> when you exit, it will ask if you want to save changes
[05:43] <Brydenn33> see rukuartic... what i dont get how people are using wine 0.9.9. If it won't complile cuz of a syntax error are they all just fixing it manually themselves?
[05:43] <dr`venom> is the writeout command the save
[05:43] <peeps> yeah
[05:44] <dr`venom> I dont see any save in the file menu
[05:44] <dr`venom> ok
[05:44] <Lubix> does anyone have know how to make the backspace key in FireFox RC3 go to the previous page instead of acting as Page Up
[05:44] <Lubix> ??
[05:44] <steeltoes1234> sy
[05:45] <Lubix> firefox?
[05:45] <dr`venom> man, I have learned so much today! thanks a lot you guys
[05:45] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Golly you've found a bug thats a real good one... Anyone with C++ knowledge might be able to help you... Give them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27629/ (SOURCE) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27627/ (ERROR) to help them out
[05:45] <Pelo> what's firefox ?
[05:45] <rukuartic> Lubix: OH! I just found that today
[05:45] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: arg no it still doesnt work.     ok im getting fusterated now.    i think i might just abandon this whole Linux thing all together and go back to windows xp
[05:45] <dr`venom> I'm going to talk to my date about all of this. LOL
[05:45] <rukuartic> Lubix: type "about:config" in the URL bar, and then search for backspace
[05:46] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: what is the error that it is giving?
[05:46] <Lubix> rukuartic: thanks
[05:46] <dr`venom> hey, I learned to configure the menu.lst file
[05:46] <rukuartic> Lubix: Change to 1
[05:46] <Brydenn33> ok thanks rukuartic
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: thanks for your help though
[05:46] <dr`venom> maybe that will get me some love
[05:46] <dr`venom> lol
[05:46] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: sorry it didnt work for you
[05:46] <rukuartic> Brydenn33: Sorry I couldn't help =\
[05:46] <Dr_willis> dr`venom,  you learned to configure GRUB by editing the menu.lst :)
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645:chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/sda': Operation not permitted
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/': Operation not permitted
[05:46] <Brydenn33> hehe it's ok rukuartic
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> david@david-desktop:~$ chown -R `david` /mnt
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> bash: david: command not found
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> chown: missing operand after `/mnt'
[05:46] <dr`venom> thats right, now, on to multimedia
[05:46] <steeltoes1234> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[05:47] <peeps> dr`venom lol, you stud
[05:47] <dr`venom> hey, in your guy's opinion, is xgl useful or just eye candy
[05:47] <Dr_willis> eye candy
[05:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:47] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: check the pm
[05:47] <TubaSoldier> my opinion its eye candy. makes wine run really slow
[05:47] <dr`venom> ok, so i'm better off without it eh?
[05:47] <kitche> dr`venom: eye candy it gets lame after a while
[05:47] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: ya i saw that  ill try it
[05:47] <dr`venom> cool
[05:48] <dr`venom> yea, it did slow me down with suse
[05:48] <dr`venom> does wine run quite quick?
[05:48] <dr`venom> or does it run slugish
[05:48] <dr`venom> oh, so it must run nice
[05:48] <dr`venom> cool
[05:49] <dr`venom> maybe i will be able to drop windows sooner than I thought possible
[05:49] <peeps> i think it depends what you run with it
[05:49] <Pelo> runs smootly but for a little flicker ,  but then Torrent is not very demanding
[05:49] <TubaSoldier> wine depends on the program you are running under it.
[05:49] <TubaSoldier> but with xgl it slows way down.
[05:49] <Lubix> ok i cant find where backspace might be
[05:49] <TubaSoldier> at least it did for me
[05:49] <dr`venom> I have a p4 3.2 with ht and 2gigs of ram
[05:49] <Pelo> dr`venom , I am one application away from dropping window  alltogether
[05:49] <dr`venom> nice pelo
[05:49] <Pelo> I just need an autocad r14  copy and it is gone
[05:50] <TubaSoldier> I've dropped it. I'm just one application from dropping wine alltogether.
[05:50] <tiredbones_> I just installed gxine. How do you start a cd to play?
[05:50] <dr`venom> I run windows in my laptop because of onenote and notebook hardware control's ability to undervolt
[05:50] <Dr_willis> dr`venom,  with ubuntu i can clock down my laptop cpu further then i can under windows. :)
[05:50] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: well what is sudo anyways?
[05:50] <SuperMiguel> besides vnc, http, ftp, media server, mail server, ssh there is any other tool for a server?
[05:50] <dr`venom> can you keep the clock at the same speed and just undervolt it like in windows
[05:51] <Dr_willis> dr`venom,   so slow its not even useable. :) well not for videos..  i can still irc.
[05:51] <dr`venom> thats essentially what I want to do
[05:51] <Dr_willis> i guess its just speed. the turion cpu is so low voltage its scary
[05:51] <dr`venom> I am running the dothan 1.7 at 972v as appose to 1.39
[05:52] <dr`venom> that drop in voltage makes a big difference
[05:52] <rbil> SuperMiguel, much of GNU/Linux is made up of servers and clients ... cups, X, etc.
[05:52] <dr`venom> I hard hear the fan and battery last a good 20% longer
[05:52] <dr`venom> thats my reason for having windows on this laptop
[05:52] <SuperMiguel> rbil :S
[05:53] <dr`venom> I got my tablet to work features to work on linux just have to learn to undervolt
[05:53] <rukuartic> dr`venom: If you have a CPU that supports frequency scaling look into powernowd
[05:53] <rukuartic> And with that I'm out, g'nite peoples! :3
[05:53] <dr`venom> cool
[05:53] <dr`venom> I will
[05:54] <dr`venom> good night man
[05:54] <dr`venom> take care
[05:54] <dr`venom> do any of you tripple boot
[05:54] <dr`venom> windows, linux, and osx?
[05:54] <Lubix> rukartic: it was set to 1 i had to change to 0
[05:54] <jazzrocker> how can i find the home directory of a user given the user's uid?
[05:54] <rbil> cat /etc/passwd
[05:55] <dr`venom> thats my goal. I hope to make an economic comparative analysis between these 3 os's for my thesis.
[05:55] <dr`venom> and hope that my department will be interested in putting in a few linux based computers in the lab
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> I wanna setup a cron that will backup the dir contents of /home/chuck to /media/usbdisk/backup.tar  What would be the best like for that?  I am thinking something like:     tar -u /media/usbdisk/backup.tar /home/chuck
[05:55] <Mad3Max3> how do I check which version of alsa that is loaded.. I did a compilation of the latest one and I don't know if it loaded over the old ones
[05:56] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: ok i still can t get it to work, but ive really got to go to bed.   im tired.    ill play with this again tommorrow 1 last time before giving up!
[05:56] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: ok have a good one
[05:57] <steeltoes1234> Syco54645: thanks a lot for all your help.  i really appreciate that
[05:57] <Syco54645> steeltoes1234: np
[05:58] <Mad3Max3> beacuse in synaptic it still says the old version I had before.. 1.0.11 and I installed 1.0.13
[05:59] <Lubix> so i will try this again, Has Anyone Tried QEMU!?
[05:59] <dr`venom> when it comes to music and video playback, do you guys recomend easy ubuntu or the individual codec instructions
[05:59] <dr`venom> ?
[05:59] <dr`venom> sorry, this is my first time in ubuntu so I dont know what works better.
[05:59] <rbil> cat /etc/passwd | grep <uid>  would save having to look through the whole file
[05:59] <Pelo> Mad3Max3 , open the terminal and type  alsamixer
[06:01] <tiredbones_> I have a sound blaster live pci card and I have a creative speaker system, but I have no manual. the jack from the speak should plug in what spot on the pci card?
[06:02] <rbil> tiredbones_, speaker usually goes into green plug
[06:02] <Mad3Max3> Pelo, where does it say which version is loaded in alsamixer
[06:02] <rbil> assuming they are color coded :-)
[06:02] <Pelo> Mad3Max3  top of the window
[06:02] <SuperMiguel> any easy to configure mail server?
[06:03] <tiredbones_> rbil, is there some test I can do to see if thing are right?
[06:03] <Mad3Max3> ok.. old version loaded then.. how do I load the new over the old.. do I have to uninstall the old ones first?
[06:03] <rbil> are they color coded?
[06:03] <jahallmighty> el digame alguien el como del favor del por entrar una PC del otra
[06:04] <tiredbones_> rbil, I would say yes.
[06:04] <rbil> then u can be sure green is for speaker
[06:04] <fnf> Hi, will anyone please tell me how 'startx' knows which window manager I've installed (and active), where's the script/config file which specify that ?.
[06:04] <Pelo> Mad3Max3  that's a bit over my head, ,I haven'T installed much stuff that's not from the packages,  but I would assume so
[06:05] <tiredbones_> rbil, how do I test for sound? I have a cd in but no music.
[06:05] <kitche> fnf: it's can be in many places .xsession or .xinitrc both are in your /home/<user> directory
[06:05] <rbil> audio cd?
[06:05] <jahallmighty> digame somebody as to enter another computer by favo I want to learn
[06:05] <tiredbones_> rbil, yes, the sound track for Loin King.
[06:05] <rbil> can u get sound going into ~/Examples and looking at stuff in there?
[06:06] <SuperMiguel> !POSTFIX
[06:06] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[06:06] <fnf> kitche: I've looked up both of them in /etc, by default Ubuntu's xinitrc just invokes Xsession, Xsession tells nothing about my window manager.
[06:06] <kitche> fnf: umm they are in /etc they should be in your /home directory
[06:07] <jahallmighty> 
[06:07] <jahallmighty> then nobody ba to adecir to me like
[06:07] <kitche> fnf: I mean they should not be in /etc
[06:07] <fnf> kitche: I haven't crafted my custom .xinitrc as I'm using Ubuntu server and manually installed X server and icewm window manager.
[06:07] <rbil> tiredbones_ old system?
[06:07] <rbil> separate audio card?
[06:08] <tiredbones_> rbil, what do you mean here, "can u get sound going into ~/Examples"
[06:08] <dr`venom> do any of you guys recomend automatix 2?
[06:08] <fnf> kitche: Ubuntu server does not automatically create a custom .xinitrc in my home directory.
[06:08] <rbil> there are some sound files you can test going into your home directory and into Examples directory
[06:08] <kitche> fnf: might be a .xsession
[06:09] <tiredbones_> rbil, I don't see any sound file in examples.
[06:09] <rbil> no ogg file?
[06:10] <tiredbones_> rbil, yes, ther are some oggs. how do I use them?
[06:10] <rbil> tiredbones_, I ask because wondering if you can play a regular sound file, but just not audio cd sounds.
[06:10] <rbil> just double click on it and see
[06:10] <fnf> kitche: It's not there either: by default a newly created user receives nothing in his home, that is: I couldn't find .xsession, .xinitrc or the like. Nonetheless, after installing X server and icewm, I can startx out of the box.
[06:11] <rbil> tiredbones_, if you computer is an older vintage then it may require a cable from CDROM to soundcard.
[06:11] <rbil> won't play thru pci
[06:11] <peeps> argh, trying to get xorg working again, and fsck decides to do it's thing
[06:11] <peeps> so i wait
[06:13] <SuperMiguel>  if my hosting come with email services, and i install a mail server using the same hosting will that shut down the hosting email system?\
[06:13] <peeps> i think i'm gonna have to increase that interval from every 30 boots to every 60
[06:13] <tiredbones_> rbil, the motheboard is L7vmm3 with amd k7 processor. is that old?
[06:13] <rbil> tiredbones_ did u get sound playing an ogg file?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> The DVD has the regular desktop, alternate, and server cd capabilities all rolled into one, right?
[06:14] <SuperMiguel>  if my hosting come with email services, and i install a mail server using the same hosting will that shut down the hosting email system?\
[06:14] <tiredbones_> rbil, I haven't figure out how to double click on it. I see the file with ls command.
[06:14] <Pelo> SuperMiguel why do you want to hose your own email server ?
[06:14] <rbil> tiredbones, you not in a gui desktop?
[06:14] <Pelo> host
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> Pelo will that give me more space
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> i just have 25MB :)
[06:16] <tiredbones_> rbil, yes I have guui, but file only show with ls command
[06:16] <lokadin_> what is the cupsd password?
[06:16] <Pelo> SuperMiguel I haven'T got a clue,  I just use a client
[06:16] <rbil> tiredbones_ too strange. You go to Places .... Home Folder and you can't go into Examples?
[06:17] <peeps> tiredbones_ you know ~ means your home directory
[06:17] <Shadow_mil> tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive   <--what does that mean?
[06:17] <lokadin> how do i set the cupsd password?
[06:17] <tiredbones_> peeps, yes
[06:17] <lokadin> or find out?
[06:17] <lokadin> has anyone here used cupsd before?
[06:17] <lokadin> or for that matter, printed anything from ubuntu
[06:18] <Pelo> lokadin  I've setup two printers on two different lpt port and I have no problems printing with either
[06:19] <lokadin> Pelo: cool, do you use cups?
[06:19] <Pelo> lokadin  I just use the thingy from the system menu
[06:19] <lokadin> how do you get there?
[06:19] <lokadin> oh
[06:20] <lokadin> foomati-gui?
[06:20] <Pelo> lokadin  in the top taskbar , system , parameters,  printers
[06:20] <iamtheric> Enis you in here?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> lokadin,  you trying to use the cups web interface?
[06:20] <Pelo> lokadin  I think that's it
[06:20] <Ragnaroek> hey
[06:20] <lokadin> Dr_willis: yes
[06:20] <tiredbones_> rbil, ok I double clicked on the file and got error message "Totem could not startup"
[06:20] <ej> hey I just upgraded ubuntu but x wont start. I believe its because some packages are being held back. Can anyone help?
[06:20] <rbil> tiredbones_ totem installed?
[06:20] <lokadin> lokadin@cisma:~$ foomatic-gui
[06:20] <lokadin> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x081781d8 ***
[06:20] <lokadin> Unable to read printer database.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> lokadin,  its disabled by default - it looks like it works - but it dont. check the forums/wikis on how to reenable it.  or use the gnome cups config program
[06:20] <halitech> lokadin - System - Administration - Printing
[06:20] <tiredbones_> rbil, yes
[06:21] <tiredbones_> rbil, so is gxine
[06:21] <Pelo> lokadin  sorry, I was translating from french,  halitech  probably has it right
[06:21] <ej> hey I just upgraded ubuntu but x wont start. I believe its because some packages are being held back. Can anyone help?
[06:21] <lokadin> halitech: there is no Administration
[06:21] <lokadin> :(
[06:21] <rbil> tiredbones_ right click and try to open with another sound client
[06:21] <halitech> lokadin, what version of Ubuntu?
[06:21] <Ragnaroek> not sure
[06:22] <Pelo> lokadin  ,  system , what ever the second thing is,  look for printer or printing or something similar
[06:22] <tiredbones_> rbil, that is the only ogg file I have.
[06:22] <lokadin> how do i check what version?
[06:22] <lokadin> oh i'm using XUBUNTU
[06:22] <Pelo> oh
[06:22] <ej> is there a way to force package upgrade
[06:22] <rbil> tiredbones_ I meant try to open the ogg file with some other sound player
[06:23] <rbil> maybe your totem is misinstalled or missing something
[06:23] <lokadin> Pelo: i found printer, foomatic-gui when i try to load i get:0lokadin@cisma:~$ foomatic-gui
[06:23] <lokadin> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x081781d8 ***
[06:23] <halitech> ok, XFCE i different, I have gnome and KDE installed on mine
[06:23] <lokadin> Unable to read printer database.
[06:23] <tiredbones_> rbil, how do I do that?
[06:23] <ej> is there a way to force package upgrade
[06:23] <Ademan> i'm having one hell of a time playing a DVD (specifically nightmare before chrismtas, i know i know, its just haloween and i had a craving to see it) other dvds have worked in the past, i have libdvdcss2
[06:23] <sandy16> my ubuntu dapper 6.06 is unable to boot and its saying that the charecters in /etc/inittab are too long and its asking me to enter the run level mannually
[06:23] <Pelo> lokadin  try installing tha pacakge first , I seem to recall xubuntu installs pretty light to start with
[06:23] <Ademan> i'm gonna try another dvd, but any idea why its not working?
[06:24] <rbil> right click on the ogg file .. then Open with ...
[06:24] <sandy16> how can i make my dapper rework?
[06:24] <ej> Ademan: have you tryed mplayer?
[06:24] <Ademan> ej: yep, it crashed X :-p
[06:24] <holycow> Ademan, all dvds are encrypted, decryption work 99.99 percent of the time
[06:24] <black_13> i have just installed the autotools and i am getting ./configure: line 135 'AM_AUTOMAKE(serlook,0.4.0)`
[06:24] <ej> Ademan: xine-ui?
[06:24] <Ademan> totem just sat there, and the disk spinning ,mplayer crashed X :-)
[06:24] <holycow> Ademan, .01 percent of the time it doesn't, you just gotta deal with the fact studios encrypt their dvds and don't let us build dvd players that decrypt stuff without very stiff licencing fees
[06:24] <Pelo> sandy16  what is the last thing you did before ubuntu fucked up ?
[06:25] <holycow> there was once a dvd player that you could buy for linux but linspire madeit purely interna;
[06:25] <iamtheric> enis?
[06:25] <ej> can someone please tell me how to force packages to be installed/upgraded that are being "left behind"
[06:25] <holycow> the scam basically involves charging you twice btw, once for the dvd and once for the player
[06:26] <halitech> tiredbones, if you go to linuxreality.com, he has all of his episodes in ogg format
[06:26] <Pelo> ej  what do you mean by left behind ?
[06:26] <sandy16> Pelo, i did nothing in the last session but ages before i have stopped the default filesystem check from /etc/init.d/cheskfs.sh
[06:26] <tiredbones_> rbil, I open it with rymthbox. I could hear the cd going but no soud.
[06:26] <lokadin> Pelo: what package to install for printer?
[06:26] <Pelo> sandy16  can you run it manualy ?
[06:26] <slacktyro> i'm looking at winehq page there're different mirrors for ubuntu dapper or ubuntu breezy, what's that?
[06:26] <ej> Pelo: ok I upgraded by xubuntu install to edgy. And x wotnt start so I do a "apt-get upgrade" and then I see a list of xorg related packages
[06:27] <sandy16> Pelo, i just kept all the entire script in /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh to comments
[06:27] <rbil> tirebones_ check amixer and make sure that nothing is muted ... double click on sound icon on taskbar to get into amixer
[06:27] <Pelo> lokadin   re-intall that -gui thing
[06:27] <ej> Pelo: saying that there being left behind
[06:27] <Ademan> holycow: thats retarded, we need an open source video format  (not like ogg theora or whatever, like, an open source dvd type format, menus and whatnot, even stick it on dual layered dvds and tout it as a high capacity format, i dunno)
[06:27] <iamtheric> anyone get e17 to have real transparency yet?
[06:27] <halitech> slack, dapper and breezy are 2 different versions of ubuntu, dapper is the latest and Edgy is the next release
[06:27] <slacktyro> halitech: how can i know what's mine?
[06:28] <rcarr> slacktryo: Breezy is 5.04, Dapper 6.04, and Edgy 6.10
[06:28] <Pelo> ej ic, I don'T have an answer for you,  try loading them from synaptic
[06:28] <Railer> quick newbie question how do I take root commands with my current user, so I can add files to another users home directory, in the gui, not cli
[06:28] <Pelo> sandy16 I have no idea
[06:28] <Ingrix> Railer: su or sudo
[06:28] <rcarr> slackttryo: I think in gnome it is under help about, or something along those lines, but I do not use gnome
[06:28] <ej> Pelo: lolI cant run synaptic. Seeing as how X doesnt start but thx.
[06:28] <rcarr> slacktryo: but you can run cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep dapper
[06:28] <peeps> HUZZAH, xorg works again
[06:28] <holycow> Ademan, indeed, the problem isn't that, its that the media companies are beyond greedy.  i don't mind them protecting their stuff with even drm but them charging to make a player
[06:28] <sandy16> Pelo, but when i give the run level its becoming hanged up
[06:28] <rcarr> etc etc
[06:28] <rcarr> to see which one shows up
[06:28] <halitech> slack, go to system - about ubuntu if you are using gnome
[06:28] <rcarr> or just open the file and see which one is listed
[06:29] <slacktyro> mine is dapper drake thank you halitech
[06:29] <halitech> slack, welcome
[06:29] <Railer> ingrix I know how to do it in CLI but it seems I still cannot transfer files in GUI
[06:29] <Ingrix> Ah
[06:29] <Ademan> holycow: what does that make the legal status of libdvdcss2 ?
[06:29] <halitech> slack, if you want an easy way, there is a great howto on the forum on installing and setting it up
[06:29] <Ingrix> I apologize but I do not know from there
[06:30] <holycow> Ademan, depends on the country, not legal in us, soon not to be legal in canada i bet, legal in sweden
[06:30] <tiredbones_> rbil, the message "he volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured."
[06:30] <sandy16> is there no body to help me out please?
[06:30] <halitech> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine
[06:30] <Pelo> Railer http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[06:30] <rbil> tirebones_ probably you don't have a sound card configured
[06:31] <peeps> Railer: gksudo
[06:31] <rbil> that would account for no sound :-)
[06:31] <Pelo> Railer  you might find that link helpfull
[06:31] <peeps> gksudo nautilus for example
[06:31] <Ademan> holycow: so that means i'm breaking the law? lol
[06:31] <Pelo> G'night folks
[06:31] <tiredbones_> rbil, are there some wizards fot this?
[06:32] <holycow> ype
[06:32] <holycow> yep
[06:32] <holycow> but all great revolutions start with small law infractions
[06:32] <seadoo18> hey dudes
[06:32] <rbil> maybe this will help u get going? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1876
[06:32] <Ademan> gross, shouldn't be a sin to watch a legally bought (rented) dvd on a legally bought dvd player as part of a legally bought computer...
[06:33] <seadoo18> does anyone know how I can get my Trackpad to stop, cuz i really hate using it
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> what are the system requirement to install putty?
[06:33] <holycow> Ademan, i fyou live i nthe u.s. you have a lot to thank the republicans for the state you guys are in freedome wise ... or lack there of although dems aren't all that much better
[06:33] <holycow> Ademan, absolutely
[06:33] <tiredbones_> rbil, thanks
[06:33] <Ademan> holycow: i dunno... maybe the stuffy republicans, i'm one myself, and look at me, i'm using hte "commie OS"
[06:33] <holycow> Ademan, unfortunately the your local state reps owned by the funding from corporations seem to disagree
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: You can comment out the device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <seadoo18> tonyyarusso, do you know what the device would be called?
[06:34] <iamtheric> wifi wouldnt work on the g4
[06:34] <holycow> Ademan, its probably fair to think of republicans in lots of varieties ... current gov't being one particularly nasty variety thats all
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: probably something like "synaptics touchpad" I'd guess
[06:34] <Mad3Max3> If I compiled and installed new drivers. how do I get them to load instead of the old ones that came with synaptic. it's the alsa 1.0.11 vs 1.0.13 drivers..
[06:34] <sandy16>  my ubuntu dapper 6.06 is unable to boot and its saying that the charecters in /etc/inittab are too long and its asking me to enter the run level mannually but when i give runlevel it has no responce
[06:34] <rbil> tiredbones_ after reading thru that one, it might not be too helpful, just google and read. I'm sure you'll find answers. I'll look a bit and let you know if I find anything more helpful
[06:35] <Ademan> holycow: frankly, i think its less republican ideals that are fucking things up, and much more the fact that politicians are fucked up, no matter their party affiliation
[06:35] <Railer> I have 2 users neither root, I'm logged in as one. How do I transfer files from one home to another in GUI? I just tried gksudo no luck.
[06:35] <DBO> Ademan, this is not the place for that, and please watch your language
[06:35] <holycow> Ademan, i would agree with that but then we are off topic
[06:35] <Ingrix> Ademan: both parties are fueled by big money.  What helps big money helps them
[06:36] <Ingrix> And they have a need for power
[06:36] <holycow> so yeah decryption isn't perfect but its darned close
[06:36] <holycow> yey for dvdjon :)
[06:36] <Ademan> i guess i'm going to have to take it into the living room to watch :-(
[06:36] <Ademan> later all
[06:37] <holycow> see ya sorry bro
[06:37] <Ingrix> Im out all.  Night.
[06:37] <seadoo18> tonyyarusso, ok you were right, it's the synaptics touchpad
[06:38] <seadoo18> tonyyarusso, but i still want to use that little red dot to move the mouse, you know the Thinkpad integrated mouse
[06:38] <marshall> um... h-hi everybody
[06:38] <tiredbones_> rbil, I bought a book today, title "Beg. Ubuntu Linux" and I read the section on multimedia. It sure did say anything about config your sound card.
[06:38] <halitech> SuperMiguel, are you trying to install on windows or ubuntu?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: Hmm, okay.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Hi marshall
[06:39] <marshall> lol
[06:39] <Railer> anyone, sorry I'm a newbie to ubuntu, I have 2 users neither root, I'm logged in as one. How do I transfer files from one home to another in GUI? I just tried gksudo no luck, I can do it in CLI but I want to know how in GUI
[06:39] <marshall> hi tonyyarusso
[06:39] <Dr_willis> "Hi, My name is Dr_willis  and I'm a Ubuntu Addict"
[06:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:39] <rbil> tiredbones_ what soundcard do u have?
[06:39] <_Casey> Hi, Dr_willis
[06:39] <teledyn> Railer: cp ?
[06:39] <marshall> Railer, how did you not end up with a root account?
[06:39] <holycow> !sshfs
[06:39] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 100 kB
[06:40] <marshall> Railer, should the root pass be the same as that of the user you set up during installation?
[06:40] <holycow> Railer, the easiest way is to create ssh links to a folder on their account
[06:40] <tiredbones_> rbil, maybe I use the wrong term. Sound blaster live.
[06:40] <Railer> well I can use the root pass for gksudo but I still cant transfer the file
[06:40] <seadoo18> marshall, you and your knowledge
[06:41] <teledyn> i want to put gas in my car.  i need to remove the gas cap.  is there some automated tool that will remove the gas cap?
[06:41] <holycow> teledyn, hahaha
[06:41] <holycow> funny
[06:41] <seadoo18> lol
[06:41] <rbil> tiredbones_ very common soundcard, I'd think ubuntu would have drivers for it builtin
[06:41] <seadoo18> teledyn that actually was pretty funny
[06:41] <teledyn> thanks
[06:42] <marshall> lol seadoo18
[06:42] <atom_> can i get an expert x64 comment on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281358 ?
[06:42] <Railer> let me ask this is there any way to give a normal user root abilities in GUI?
[06:43] <atom_> users and groups railer
[06:43] <holycow> you don't really want to do that that
[06:43] <bwlang> Railer: gksudo?
[06:43] <bwlang> Railer: that will let you run a GUI program as root
[06:43] <marshall> bwlang, he tried that already
[06:43] <Railer> I tried gksudo, password worked but still cannot transfer the file
[06:43] <seadoo18> tonyyarusso, you still with me?
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: Yeah, looking around.
[06:44] <holycow> Railer, you are doing this wrong
[06:44] <holycow> please listen to what i told you
[06:44] <marshall> Railer, you have to do gksu then the command you would do normally
[06:44] <bwlang> marshall: sorry - thought that was a new thread
[06:44] <holycow> ssh in to each others accounts
[06:44] <holycow> places / connect server
[06:44] <holycow> thats all
[06:44] <marshall> Railer, so it would be gksu nautilus <path to directory>
[06:45] <holycow> thats actually a bad idea
[06:45] <holycow> when you put the file on the other users desktop it will be owned by root
[06:45] <Railer> the point is I dont want to do it in CLI, I'm trying in GUI
[06:45] <holycow> the other user wont be able to delete it
[06:45] <holycow> stop doing dumb things, just ssh into the users account, its simple
[06:45] <holycow> and yes you can do it via cli
[06:45] <holycow> places / servers
[06:46] <marshall> lol starsky-hutchy
[06:46] <marshall> wicked name
[06:46] <Railer> holycow I can do it though GUI right?
[06:46] <Farrell> i just reinstalled winXP and it wiped out my MBR... how do i re-install grub? i still have my ubuntu 6.06 install livecd
[06:47] <holycow> railer how many times do i haveto repeat my self?
[06:47] <holycow> Railer, i'm trying to help make it easy for me and read what i wrote
[06:47] <holycow> places / connect to server
[06:47] <holycow> just make sure you have ssh installed
[06:47] <Railer> "and yes you can do it via cli" I want to do it via GUI, you just confused me
[06:48] <holycow> Railer, places /connect to server
[06:48] <halitech> Farrell, check out here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279750&highlight=grub
[06:48] <holycow> if you insist on making it hard for me to help me i can easily stop
[06:48] <holycow> "for me to help me" <-- hehe
[06:48] <Railer> dude I'm just new to this, I'm trying
[06:48] <holycow> i mean you
[06:49] <holycow> Railer, i know but do remember comming home after doing this for a living is just as much hard work
[06:49] <Eroick> how do i mount a USB Stick from a terminal?
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: So far I've seen suggestions for using tpconfig to mess with it, or disabling the touchpad in the bios.
[06:50] <Farrell> halitech, thx
[06:50] <seadoo18> yeah holycow give Railer a break
[06:51] <Railer> what do I put in for server
[06:51] <holycow> ip address
[06:51] <Railer> 127.0.0.1?
[06:51] <holycow> Railer, probably not i've not tried that, heh, lan ip address
[06:51] <Railer> access denied
[06:51] <teledyn> is there any chance ubuntu will ever incorporate swsusp2 into their kernels?
[06:52] <rbil> Railer, what are u trying to do?
[06:52] <seadoo18> tonyyarusso, tpconfig? i can run that from the terminal i suppose?
[06:52] <halitech> question Railer and sorry if you answered and I missed it, but do you have static IPs assigned on each computer have?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: Yeah
[06:52] <iamtheric> Eroick, $mount /dev/yourdevice
[06:52] <strabes> seadoo18: yeah
[06:52] <seadoo18> thanks guys
[06:52] <seadoo18> i'm a n00b
[06:52] <seadoo18> lol
[06:53] <Railer> it's the same computer, I'm just trying to transfer a file from one user directory to another
[06:53] <iamtheric> why doesnt ubuntu ship with gcc?
[06:53] <seadoo18> dudes tpconfig doesn't work
[06:53] <holycow> he's trying to transfer via gui from one non admin user to another non admin (sudo) users
[06:53] <holycow> easiest way is via mounting a local ssh pass to each account
[06:53] <gnopgnip> you could make your own install cd with gcc
[06:53] <sethk> iamtheric, it doesn't ship with anything.  Depending on which type of install you select, you may or may not get gcc during the install
[06:53] <halitech> gksudo nautilus doesn't work?
[06:53] <seadoo18> i amtheric, i know that's retarded eh
[06:54] <holycow> iamtheric, its for security reasons primarily.  we have a lot of noobs running this stuff, the last thing they need is a compromised box with gcc on it
[06:54] <mnepton> Railer: you need to cp the file with sudo, and then chown it so the other user can read it.
[06:55] <sethk> mnepton, chmod is better than chown in that situation, almost always
[06:55] <holycow> mnepton, no he doesn't
[06:55] <holycow> he just needs to mount th eother account via ssh from places/servers
[06:55] <holycow> thats the fastest/easiest way an dit uses gui, no need fo rcli
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> seadoo18: You probably need to install it first.
[06:55] <mnepton> oh, it's remote?
[06:55] <seadoo18> ohh
[06:55] <seadoo18> ok
[06:55] <holycow> no its local but thats irrelevant
[06:56] <mnepton> is sshd installed and running?
[06:56] <holycow> he wants a user friendly method he can setup for his users via gui
[06:56] <iamtheric> so what c compiler does it use?
[06:56] <sethk> holycow, if a box is compromised, it hardly makes any difference whether gcc is there or not.
[06:56] <sethk> iamtheric, gcc, of course
[06:56] <seadoo18> i amtheric, you can install g++
[06:56] <Railer> mnepton, close enough, thanks everyone, sshd I think is runnung but it didn't work the nautlis thing is close enough for now
[06:56] <holycow> not if the account compromised is restricted
[06:56] <sethk> iamtheric, there is an intel compiler, also, but it isn't free
[06:56] <mnepton> oh, something for multiple users. create /home/share and make it writable by a group the users all belong to.
[06:56] <seadoo18> iamtheric, if you want c++
[06:57] <Eroick> yay, installing is going good
[06:57] <sethk> holycow, that makes no sense
[06:57] <holycow> gcc would give them a few more tools to work with
[06:57] <holycow> it makes a lot of sense, you don't need sudo to compile
[06:57] <iamtheric> well i was gonna use ubuntu for the school comps for programming lessons because it was the only live cd anyof us had
[06:57] <marshall> seadoo18, yeah
[06:58] <Jesus> yo
[06:58] <sethk> holycow, makes absolutely no difference whether you compile on the compromised box, or compile elsewhere.  you can do exactly the same bad things.
[06:58] <Jesus> i've been sent by God to tell you all that you suck
[06:58] <holycow> iamtheric, you can download lots of other live cds, knoppix is excellent, lots of other ones out there
[06:58] <atom_> whats the best ftp client program for linux?
[06:58] <Eroick> if I do apt-get install fluxbox, will it get X as well?
[06:58] <Jesus> holycow, lmao knoppix is crap!
[06:58] <holycow> sethk, whatever bro.  go ahead teach us your l33t haxor skills bro
[06:58] <marshall> lol Jesus, God is already in use
[06:58] <Jesus> damn
[06:58] <Jesus> pity
[06:59] <sethk> marshall, which, jesus or god?
[06:59] <Jesus> God
[06:59] <mnepton> holycow: dude.
[06:59] <_Casey> Like I'm gonna trust the Son of God, our Lord and Saviour on Linux issues.
[06:59] <iamtheric> yeah i know
[06:59] <marshall> Eroick, no, i dont think fluxbox is a metapackage. i ahvent tried it for a few months though so it might be now
[06:59] <iamtheric> we just had a bunch of ubuntu cds
[06:59] <rcarr> Eroick: try apt-cache show fluxbox | grep "(x|X)org"
[06:59] <rbil> jesus, tell GW Bush to get out of Iraq. He listens to you apparently.
[06:59] <marshall> sethk, God is taken
[06:59] <rcarr> Eroick: To see if it is listed as a dependency, it probably is though
[06:59] <iamtheric> and we were like "lets try this"
[06:59] <marshall> rbil, he says he does lol
[06:59] <Jesus> rbil, lol i'll take it under advisement
[07:00] <iamtheric> but we couldnt find a suitible c compiler
[07:00] <Jesus> rbil, put it on my todo
[07:00] <_Casey> But.. But.. "Thou shalt no.." eh, whatever.
[07:00] <marshall> i thing GWB would crap himself if jesus actually did exist
[07:00] <Railer> anyother GUI question, anyway to see my ip address from gui and not ifconfig?
[07:00] <rbil> jesus, don't take too long, hundreds are dying everyday
[07:00] <Eroick> rcarr: hmm, I cant find the package
[07:00] <Jesus> rbil, yeah, it's pretty bad over there
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Jesus: I'm coming up with nothing, unfortunately.
[07:00] <marshall> rbil, really? just hundreds?
[07:00] <sethk> iamtheric, certain install selections do install gcc, so what you are saying doesn't make a lot of sense.
[07:00] <mnepton> Railer: System -> Admin -> Network tools
[07:01] <holycow> Railer, system / admin / networking should show it to you for your eth device
[07:01] <halitech> Railer, if you go to http://ipchicken.com  you can get it for your external
[07:01] <holycow> halitech, he's probably be3hind a router, that won't give him his local lan ip
[07:01] <Railer> ok too easy using external, must learn ubuntu
[07:01] <holycow> Railer, also system / admin / network tools will give you the ip
[07:02] <holycow> under devices, select your eth device
[07:02] <halitech> holycow, thats why I specified for his external
[07:02] <iamtheric> no i was using it as a live cd on the school laptops
[07:02] <rbil> he can look within the router and get the ip address of connected compuers on his lan
[07:02] <iamtheric> and i could install because the wifi was locked
[07:02] <Railer> 103 it is thank you
[07:02] <Eroick> yay! my wifi card works!
[07:02] <rbil> but if he's going to ssh back into his box, wouldn't localhost work?
[07:03] <holycow> it should but i've never bothered to try
[07:03] <sethk> rbil, sure
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> NO!  Come back...
[07:03] <holycow> the key to ssh is actually just typing in the right ip address and right username/pass
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> oh, wait
[07:03] <rbil> ssh username@localhost
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> two: Got something!
[07:03] <sethk> rbil, that works fine, but what is the point?
[07:03] <rbil> no idea
[07:03] <UtterMassacre> tonyyarusso, awesome!
[07:03] <rbil> why he'd want to ssh back into his own box, I don't understand
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> UtterMassacre: Maybe it is this easy.  Try adding the Option TouchpadOff 1 (or true).
[07:04] <sethk> rbil, me neither.  :)
[07:04] <holycow> the point, if we are talking about railers question is: how does a local user share files between other users without doing cli, installing funky services, just standard gui tools in default install
[07:04] <holycow> ssh back to the local account via gui mount is the easiest
[07:04] <Eroick> hmm
[07:04] <holycow> which part of this is hard?
[07:04] <UtterMassacre> tonyyarusso, where do i add this in the conf file?
[07:04] <Eroick> console is using all my mem right now less swap.
[07:04] <mnepton> holycow: a directory is created for users to share information between themselves in /home
[07:04] <rbil> holycow, setup a directory accessible by all users and dump the files in there
[07:04] <Eroick> fluxbox isnt going to work i take it.
[07:05] <holycow> mnepton, no sorry
[07:05] <holycow> mnepton, go aheda and try to write there without sudo access
[07:05] <sethk>  holycow why in the world would you do that?  you can simply become the other user.
[07:05] <holycow> rbil, hes not asking that tho
[07:05] <holycow> rbil, like i said, no funky stuff, no need to install services, no admin cli stuff, no permissioning crap
[07:05] <rbil> holycow, sorry, but I missed the op's original question
[07:05] <sethk> he meant a subdirectory of /home, plus, you can grant read/write for groups anywhere you want, and put everyone in that group.
[07:06] <holycow> man you guys hafve never adminned a multi user system before where you had reguloar windows uswers wanting to do regular windowsy things and still maintain normal unixy security?
[07:06] <holycow> wow
[07:06] <mnepton> holycow: sudo mkdir /home/share && sudo chown -R users:users /home/share && sudo chmod 770 /home/share
[07:06] <holycow> rbil, no biggie
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> UtterMassacre: So you've got Section "Input Device", Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad", the driver, and probably a couple of option lines.  Just add another option line in the same format as the others,  Option   "TouchpadOff"   "1" right there, save it, and restart X.
[07:06] <holycow> mnepton, he said no cli
[07:06] <holycow> is everyone stupid here?
[07:06] <holycow> i'm serious
[07:06] <mnepton> holycow: alt-f2
[07:06] <sethk> ssh is cli, fool
[07:06] <holycow> hes asking a simple user question
[07:06] <holycow> no cli
[07:06] <Elwyn> Hey, anyone able to spare a sec to help me? I have an IDE drive with some data on t, that is corrupted. My windows PC wont even get past post with it installed, so I have booted off this liveCD. The drive shows up, but wont mount, it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27631/  Any ideas on how to recover this data?
[07:06] <mnepton> holycow: alt-f2
[07:06] <holycow> lets actually try to answer his goddamend question?
[07:06] <UtterMassacre> tonyyarusso, thanks very much
[07:07] <holycow> mnepton, shtup, now you are not just annoying but stupid
[07:07] <UtterMassacre> lol
[07:07] <holycow> help the user, give the user the answer they are expectiing
[07:07] <UtterMassacre> let's keep it nice here people
[07:07] <holycow> don't question the users motivation, gently push them in the directio nof the right answre if they are really misunderstanding stuff
[07:08] <Eroick> just plain CLI (no X) is taking all but one meg of my RAM. Fluxbox will be interesting. Which package is the XServer?
[07:08] <mnepton_> holycow: before you dismiss me and my ideas as "stupid," you might want to first have a look at my hostmask, and then read the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct
[07:08] <sethk> Eroick, There are many packages  that comprise X
[07:09] <sethk> mnepton, plus he's wrong and you are correct in this particular case.
[07:09] <atom_> how do you increase the font size of the text in here?
[07:09] <sethk> atom_, depends on which IRC client you use.
[07:09] <atom_> xchat
[07:09] <sethk> settings/preferences
[07:10] <sethk> then look at text box,
[07:10] <sethk> input box, etc.
[07:10] <UtterMassacre> atom_, if you're using XChat it's Edit/Preferences
[07:10] <atom_> got it. :)
[07:10] <atom_> so hard on the eyes the default is
[07:11] <atom_> whats a good gui based ftp program for linux?
[07:11] <Elwyn> Noone? :(
[07:11] <atom_> igloo good?
[07:11] <rbil> atom_ nautilus
[07:12] <atom_> shitty
[07:12] <rbil> spring cleaning comes early
[07:12] <atom_> netsplits still happen to linux users ? :P
[07:12] <Elwyn> wtf was that? lol!
[07:12] <sethk> atom_, there are other IRC clients, although I prefer xchat of the ones I've tried.
[07:13] <Elwyn> c'n'p:    Hey, anyone able to spare a sec to help me? I have an IDE drive with some data on t, that is corrupted. My windows PC wont even get past post with it installed, so I have booted off this liveCD. The drive shows up, but wont mount, it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27631/  Any ideas on how to recover this data?
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> gnopgnip: The world ended.
[07:14] <rcarr> He said he HAD xserver-xorg
[07:14] <lars30> ok so when I first installed this OS they keyboard preference pane had lots of choices in it, and my numpad worked... now neither.
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> !netsplit
[07:14] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[07:14] <rcarr> "startx" doesn't start it?
[07:14] <UtterMassacre> everyone
[07:14] <mnepton_> holycow: i'm not part of GNOME Nautilus team, just a GNOME sysadmin
[07:14] <sethk> Elwyn, appears that it isn't an NTFS partition.
[07:14] <holycow> mnepton, just a thought
[07:14] <rcarr> ...yay netsplits
[07:14] <iamtheric> temper temper
[07:14] <iamtheric> Eroick, you need alot more than just that
[07:14] <iamtheric> Eroick, did you try startx?
[07:14] <UtterMassacre> everyone is quitting :(
[07:14] <sethk> Elwyn, mount doesn't think so, in any event.
[07:14] <Eroick> iamtheric: yeah, no dice. I got xserver-xorg
[07:14] <rcarr> UtterMassacre:
[07:14] <iamtheric> like fireworks
[07:14] <rcarr> !netsplit
[07:14] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[07:14] <gnu2it2> FYI i was trying to reinstall a sun box, the help over at #solaris is worthless. i like #ubuntu much better. you folks rock in my book
[07:14] <UtterMassacre> rcarr, what?
[07:15] <iamtheric> Eroick, maybe just install thorugh apt and let it figure it out?
[07:15] <sethk> Elwyn, it's not the codepage, there is just a problem with the file system
[07:15] <rcarr> uttermassacre: Everyone was quitting because it was a netsplit
[07:15] <Eroick> iamtheric: install what?
[07:15] <rcarr> uttermassacre: Read what ubotu said
[07:15] <iamtheric> Eroick, maybe gnome
[07:15] <Elwyn> sethk: is there a way to fix the filesystem back to NTFS?
[07:15] <sethk> Elwyn, if it is NTFS, boot windows an use the windows tools to repar
[07:15] <UtterMassacre> rcarr, oh ok
[07:15] <iamtheric> Eroick, maybe or fluxbox
[07:15] <Eroick> iamtheric: no, i am installing fluxbox with X
[07:15] <UtterMassacre> rcarr, that ubotu is cool
[07:15] <Eroick> iamtheric: how do I get X
[07:15] <ub12> I have just deleted and repartitioned a hard drive with an old unused Debian sytem on it. How do I get Grub to stop to listing the old bootimage at bootup?
[07:15] <iamtheric> Eroick, yeah...
[07:15] <Eroick> iamtheric: like, so I can do startx
[07:15] <sethk> Elwyn, if it's ntfs, and it's merely corrupted slightly, then booting windows will give you some tools you can use on it.
[07:16] <sethk> Elwyn, is that what you meant to ask?
[07:16] <atom_> can i get an expert x64 comment on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281358 ?
[07:16] <Elwyn> yea:p
[07:16] <Elwyn> sethk, which tools are those? i am not familiar with anything like that
[07:16] <rbil> got my cpu pegged out
[07:16] <UtterMassacre> sethk, windows is a funny OS
[07:16] <iamtheric> Eroick, it should register as a dep for any wm
[07:16] <starsky_hutchy> !window
[07:16] <starsky_hutchy> !windows
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:16] <iamtheric> Eroick, just get gnome or kde or any other random wm and it will get x as a dep
[07:17] <Elwyn> lol@ubotu!
[07:17] <sethk> Elwyn, you can get to them through their disk administrator.  they also have command line one, I believe scandisk is its latest incarnation.
[07:17] <zeroinc> hey guys how do i dualboot ubuntu with windows xp already installed
[07:17] <Eroick> iamtheric: why do that? i have limited disk space
[07:17] <Elwyn> aaaa, lol, scandisk. *snorts*
[07:17] <iamtheric> Eroick, how much?
[07:17] <iamtheric> Eroick, less than 40mbs?
[07:17] <iamtheric> Eroick, just get flux through apt
[07:17] <Eroick> iamtheric: i did
[07:18] <rcarr> zeroinc: Do you realize how many thou\sands of resources there are on that, available through google, and within the install itself?
[07:18] <rbil> darn it, now I gotta defrag my Sea Drive
[07:18] <iamtheric> Eroick, x should be gotten as a dep
[07:18] <sethk> iamtheric, install the gnome desktop or KDE desktop, let it take care of X for you.  You can always uninstall it later, although there really isn't a reason to uninstall.
[07:18] <Elwyn> sethk, and what if my system stops at POST with the drive in, giving me an error on bad sectors or something like that? does that mean I dont have it set to slave properly?
[07:18] <iamtheric> sethk, i wasnt the one with the question!
[07:18] <Eroick> iamtheric: it wasn
[07:18] <rcarr> Results 1 - 10 of about 12,100 for "dual boot ubuntu" windows.
[07:18] <Eroick> t
[07:18] <sethk> Eroick, if windows was installed when you installed linux, the boot loader installation will find windows and add it to the boot menu.
[07:19] <sethk> iamtheric, well, don't you know anyway?  :)
[07:19] <iamtheric> wow retardicon
[07:19] <brian98> I'm liking edgy
[07:19] <iamtheric> i do
[07:19] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, have you got Ubuntu on a CD?
[07:19] <at0mic> so is this gui interface called the "x server" enviroment?
[07:19] <iamtheric> i never asked a question
[07:19] <Eroick> sethk: what? Im not using windows
[07:19] <sethk> Elwyn, check jumpering.  If you have an EIDE cable (one black, one grey, one blue connector) jumper the drives for Cable Select
[07:20] <Elwyn> allright, thanks
[07:20] <Elwyn> il give it a go
[07:20] <sethk> Eroick, if you aren't using windows, why are you messing with ntfs?
[07:20] <Elwyn> Cheers
[07:20] <Eroick> sethk: umm, i am not
[07:20] <iamtheric> agggh
[07:20] <iamtheric> newbs
[07:20] <iamtheric> hes not!
[07:20] <iamtheric> god damn
[07:20] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, have you got Ubuntu on a CD?
[07:20] <ub12> ok I solved my own problem: I ran "sudo update-grub -y".
[07:20] <Eroick> sethk: I want to get X to work. I am installing xubuntu-desktop.
[07:20] <Eroick> then usijng fluxbox
[07:20] <Eroick> :)
[07:21] <sethk> Eroick, sorry, you are right, I confused you with the file system problem guy.
[07:21] <Eroick> iamtheric: ?
[07:21] <iamtheric> Eroick, install any wm through apt and it wil get x!
[07:21] <Werdnum> Eroick: by X, I assume you mean xfce
[07:21] <zeroinc> UtterMassacre: fo sho
[07:21] <Werdnum> in which case you should be running sudo apt-get install xfce4
[07:21] <zeroinc> what i do afta that
[07:21] <zeroinc> during the install
[07:21] <zeroinc> that is
[07:21] <Eroick> what size is shown in apt-cache show? it says 8232. is that megs?! 8 gigs?!
[07:21] <at0mic> kb
[07:21] <at0mic> always kb here
[07:21] <iamtheric> HE WAS TALKING ABOuT X11!
[07:22] <Eroick> at0mic: ok. so that means 823MB?
[07:22] <halitech> Eroick, no it would be about 8meg
[07:22] <sethk> Werdnum, xfce != x
[07:22] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, do you have 2 partitions?
[07:22] <Eroick> halitech: no way
[07:22] <sethk> xfce, like any other window manager, uses X.
[07:22] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, one for windows, one for linux?
[07:22] <iamtheric> no!
[07:23] <Eroick> 8000 kb = ?mb?
[07:23] <at0mic> eroick 1000kb = 1mb. 8.3 MB is ur total
[07:23] <iamtheric> xfce is not x11
[07:23] <at0mic> 1024 to be exact
[07:23] <Rookie_> 1024 = 1 mb
[07:23] <oTToRoCk> hdparm -Tt
[07:23] <halitech> 8232/1024= ~8meg
[07:23] <rbil> atOmic, not if you sell hard drives :-)
[07:23] <Eroick> at0mic: how the heck is the entire xubuntu-desktop package 8MB?
[07:23] <oTToRoCk> cat /proc/partitions
[07:23] <sethk> Eroick, compressed, I presume
[07:23] <Werdnum> sethk: however, he wanted to install xubuntu, which uses xfce
[07:24] <UtterMassacre> zeroinc, do you have 2 partitions?
[07:24] <iamtheric> Werdnum, yeah...
[07:24] <halitech> Eroick, XFCE is pretty light weight and that might be compressed and what is being downloaded from the repo, not including what is on the cd
[07:24] <Eroick> i am installing the xubuntu-desktop[ system because it is the smallest and has many apps i need built in
[07:24] <lars30> anyone got any pionters to fixing my Keyboard?
[07:24] <oTToRoCk> bye
[07:24] <lars30> It stopped knowing it has a numpad..
[07:24] <Eroick> halitech: will it be over a gig decompressed?
[07:24] <iamtheric> Eroick, just apt-get install fluxbox
[07:24] <at0mic> hey halitech u registered to nickserv? u from halifax?
[07:25] <sethk> Werdnum, yes, I understand, and in fact suggested installing a desktop.  what I was responding to what the statement   "xfce is X", which I guess really meant to say "xfce is the only desktop I can install)
[07:25] <iamtheric> Eroick, , what does it say?
[07:25] <halitech> Eroick, I'm not sure, can't see it being that big
[07:25] <Werdnum> ah
[07:25] <Eroick> iamtheric: i already did it. it just installs fluxbox, nothing else
[07:25] <iamtheric> Eroick, reboot
[07:25] <halitech> at0mic, nope, not registered but yes to halifax, check your privates
[07:25] <at0mic> i got no privates. u need to be registered to send privates u know?
[07:26] <Eroick> iamtheric: no. im installing the desktop package.
[07:26] <sethk> at0mic, register, it takes about 30 seconds
[07:26] <numist> or you can /ns set unfiltered on
[07:26] <at0mic> i did register.
[07:26] <neopoLiTan> at0mic, thats a problem best kept between you and your doctor
[07:26] <halitech> ok, replied back but I guess since I'm not registered you didn't get them
[07:26] <iamtheric> Eroick, i know!
[07:26] <at0mic> u gots it
[07:26] <iamtheric> Eroick, get another wm through apt
[07:26] <iamtheric> Eroick, gdm
[07:27] <halitech> so how do I register?
[07:27] <iamtheric> Eroick, that should get x as a dep
[07:27] <iamtheric> Eroick, then just select a flux session
[07:27] <at0mic> '/nickserv register password
[07:27] <halitech> with the ' or without?
[07:28] <numist> without
[07:28] <at0mic> '/msg nickserv rather... without the '
[07:28] <peeps> anyone know some program to control my cpu fan speed?
[07:28] <iamtheric> Eroick, update?
[07:28] <Eroick> installing GDM
[07:29] <Eroick> but i doubt it will work
[07:29] <iamtheric> Eroick why not?
[07:29] <brian98> !eyecandy
[07:29] <steveneddy> peeps yeah - nexus
[07:29] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:29] <ANTDx1> Hey guys
[07:29] <ANTDx1> serious problem...
[07:29] <Eroick> iamtheric: nvm, will startx in a sec
[07:29] <ANTDx1> I upgraded to 6.10 today, and when I restarted, it said something was wrong with my xorg server configuration
[07:29] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, what did it say?
[07:30] <Wiseguy> anyone here have both a wireless card and a normal nic card and have problems switching back and forth between the two devices?
[07:30] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, you have a broken package most likely, you have to see what it is
[07:30] <ANTDx1> It said the xorg interface could not be loaded.  It asked me if I wanted to get the output to see what was wrong.  I said yes, so it gave me an empty message with ok at the bottom, then it went to a black screen.
[07:30] <ANTDx1> How can I see what it is?
[07:30] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, look in the log
[07:31] <iamtheric> Eroick, update?
[07:31] <ANTDx1> Ok guys...I'm a bit new.  I have no idea where in the filesystem the log is.
[07:31] <some0ne> !nvidia
[07:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:31] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, did apt tell you if you had any broked packages?
[07:31] <some0ne> !aiglx
[07:32] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:32] <iamtheric> !e17
[07:32] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[07:32] <ANTDx1> apt told me that I could not override one Openoffice package because it was also used by mplayer.
[07:32] <zeroinc> uttermasacer left ?
[07:32] <rbil> ANTDx1 ... cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:32] <ANTDx1> however, that shouldn't have brought down the entire gui
[07:32] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, your in hell, dependency hell
[07:32] <zeroinc> god damnit
[07:32] <zeroinc> he was helping me
[07:33] <zeroinc> how do i dualboot ubuntu w/ windows xp already installed w/ a already partitioned hd
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, whats wrong?
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, install grub
[07:33] <sethk> ANTDx1, nothings go to work properly without fixig the problem
[07:33] <zeroinc> after i install ubuntu?
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, lilo might* work
[07:33] <iamtheric> zeroinc, yes
[07:33] <zeroinc> ok
[07:33] <AdamKili> can some1 help me? Adobe Flash only semi-works for me. sites like homestarrunner.com, newgrounds.com, and youtube.com work, but things like CNET videos, or episodes of shows on CBS.com don't work
[07:34] <zeroinc> and when i install them they will pick up the other partitions/boot.ini files?
[07:34] <sethk> zeroinc, do you mean you installed windows _after_ install linux?
[07:34] <zeroinc> no
[07:34] <zeroinc> i already have windows installed
[07:34] <zeroinc> i want to install ubuntu
[07:34] <zeroinc> on a seperate partition
[07:34] <iamtheric> zeroinc, it should ask where you want to install bootloader say mbr
[07:34] <sethk> zeroinc, then dual boot will be setup automtaically
[07:34] <zeroinc> hmm
[07:34] <ANTDx1> Ok sethk I'm hoping someone here will be able to help me fix the problem.  I'm on a Dapper live disc with my edgy partition mounted
[07:34] <zeroinc> really? that would be awesome.
[07:35] <iamtheric> zeroinc, still need to say install to mbr
[07:35] <iamtheric> enis?
[07:35] <zeroinc> whats mbr
[07:35] <AdamKili> !flash
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:35] <iamtheric> zeroinc, master boot record
[07:35] <ANTDx1> ok guys what am I looking for in my xOrg logs?
[07:35] <starseed> Hey, i'm trying to add a repo , it says it can't verify because I don't have a public key .. I know what the key is , how do I pass that along ?
[07:35] <zeroinc> hmm
[07:36] <iamtheric> zeroinc, it will come up in the install where you want to install
[07:36] <zeroinc> but wont it overwrite the mbr if i install it to mbr
[07:36] <zeroinc> oh but i want it to overwrite hte mbr
[07:36] <iamtheric> zeroinc, ...thats the whole point
[07:36] <zeroinc> cuz it will recognize the dualboot
[07:36] <zeroinc> correct?
[07:36] <zeroinc> ok.
[07:36] <rbil> ANTDx1 ... error messages
[07:36] <zeroinc> thanks guys, iamtheric
[07:36] <ANTDx1> I don't see any, I just see normal things...or atleast, they look normal to me
[07:36] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, what did you upgrade from?
[07:37] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, xfree86?
[07:37] <ANTDx1> amd 64
[07:37] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, ...um no
[07:37] <lando> starseed: i think its apt-key add "link to key"
[07:37] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, what x11 did you have before xorg or xfree86?
[07:37] <starseed> k, i'll start there
[07:37] <ANTDx1> I don't know.  Whatever was the default on the install
[07:38] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, default install from what?
[07:38] <ANTDx1> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Cd.
[07:38] <AdamKili> HELP flash player works for newgrounds and youtube, but not for videos on CNET or CBS!!!
[07:38] <ANTDx1> CD*
[07:38] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no, what did you have before!
[07:38] <ANTDx1> I had 6.06 and I was upgrading to 6.10
[07:39] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, oh
[07:39] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, if apt says no brokes packages
[07:39] <ANTDx1> there was an error with apt, but it looked like it was just an openoffice package.
[07:39] <ANTDx1> I can't check now because I can't do anything
[07:39] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, i use debian unstable and redhat 9 so i dont know about ubuntus packages that well
[07:40] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, why not?
[07:40] <ANTDx1> when I boot,  the Ubuntu splash is black and white instead of color
[07:40] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, so...
[07:40] <ANTDx1> Well I can't check the synaptic messages because I can't get into the system.
[07:40] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, apt!, not the frontend just  apt
[07:41] <ANTDx1> It wouldn't accept my terminal commands either.  It showed my text on the screen, but did nothing when I typed it.
[07:42] <halitech> ANDTx, did you do sudo apt?
[07:42] <ANTDx1> would I be able to do anything in recover mode?  I'm not sure exactly how that works.
[07:42] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, log in with ssh
[07:42] <ANTDx1> Log in to my own machine with SSH?
[07:42] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, log in with ssh and use the term
[07:43] <ANTDx1> I can't do that if I can't set it up to allow an ssh connection
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no, log into your machine from another
[07:43] <sethk> ANTDx1, if you can't get the gui up, then yes, log into your machine using the client ssh on another box.
[07:43] <ANTDx1> I don't have another box available.
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, windows has putty
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, availible
[07:43] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, log in with that
[07:43] <sethk> ANTDx1, you do have the netowrk up?
[07:43] <ANTDx1> I know windows has putty.  I use it.  I don't have a windows computer.
[07:44] <rbil> haha
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then what are you using now?
[07:44] <ANTDx1> I have a windows partition on THIS box.
[07:44] <ANTDx1> I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 Live cd
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then reinstall and start over!
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, itl take half an hour
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, you broke your system
[07:44] <ANTDx1> And lose the documents I had on my old desktop?
[07:44] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no!!!!
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, move them to your windows partition
[07:45] <ANTDx1> I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, or another partition!
[07:45] <ANTDx1> How?  ubuntu can't modify NTFS and I have no other partitions...
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, make another!!!!
[07:45] <ANTDx1> There has to be a better solution than 'you broke your system now start over'
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, qtparted
[07:45] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, parted
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, under present conditions no there isnt
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, unless you can log in with ssh from another comp...
[07:46] <ANTDx1> there isn't some config file i can edit and restart?
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, maybe your keyboard just got unplugged
[07:46] <rbil> iamtheric, why don't u login to his system and fix it?
[07:46] <halitech> ANTDx1, you can copy your files over to NTFS though
[07:46] <ANTDx1> It's a laptop.
[07:46] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, my connect sucks ass
[07:46] <ANTDx1> If my keyboard got unplugged, I'm screwed.
[07:46] <Rookie_> to ntfs ? without the permissions ?
[07:47] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, whats your ip i could try...
[07:47] <halitech> right, no fstab to edit on livedc so forget that idea
[07:47] <sethk> ANTDx1, this isn't windows.  unplugging the keyboard is easily handled.
[07:47] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, no!
[07:47] <ANTDx1> Someone asked if my keyboard was unplugged.  I simply responded.  I know this isn't windows.
[07:48] <ANTDx1> Anyway, isn't there some config file that I can edit....or even replace?
[07:48] <bthornton> Is it possible to rename the default printer names in CUPS?  The defaults usually seem to be something goofy like "hp_usb_HP_LaserJet_3050"...
[07:48] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, can you mount ntfs?
[07:48] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, yes!
[07:48] <ANTDx1> ok well what file do I need to edit or replace
[07:49] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, move the livecds x conf to the x conf that you just installed
[07:49] <ANTDx1> That's how I fixed all the other problems I've had...put in the live CD, mount the partition, and edit some file
[07:49] <ANTDx1> ok
[07:49] <AdamKili> nevermind i got flash working
[07:49] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <iamtheric> sorry
[07:50] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, mount partition and replace that file
[07:50] <ANTDx1> ok
[07:50] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then reboot and see if that helped
[07:50] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, i kind of doubt it though
[07:50] <rbil> iamtheric, why would xorg.conf be the prob when he can't even get into an init 3?
[07:51] <ANTDx1> It told me that the xorg server is what was wrong.
[07:51] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, iamtheric he never said he couldnt get there
[07:51] <ANTDx1> Why it wouldn't accept my terminal commands after that, I have no idea.
[07:51] <AsheD> Ubuntu hates me
[07:51] <iamtheric> rbil, he just said his keyboard didnt work
[07:51] <skoger> why?
[07:51] <ANTDx1> My keyboard DOES work.
[07:51] <adam_12> i have samba installed and i am sharing 2 of my folders but when i go on my windows box and try 2 connect to the files i am sharing it asks for a username and password but i dont know what they r
[07:51] <rbil> ANTDx1, oh, didn't know the prob was with his keyboard
[07:52] <ANTDx1> The problem isn't the keyboard
[07:52] <rbil> i thought he couldn't get to a command prompt period
[07:52] <ANTDx1> The keyboard works fine.  I could type, but when I pressed enter, my commands did nothing
[07:52] <AsheD> it decided not to mount anything except root on this boot, gave me a 'could not initialize HAL' error, power management errors, dbus, X randomly crashes
[07:52] <rbil> what commands did u use? did u login?
[07:52] <halitech> adam_12, you would have to use a username and password for a user that exists on the linux box
[07:52] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, yeah then your screwed
[07:52] <ANTDx1> well first I tried a sudo command and that didn't work
[07:52] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, i thought you said x gave you an error
[07:52] <ANTDx1> It did
[07:53] <ANTDx1> x gave me an error, THEN it sent me to this black screen
[07:53] <fnf> Hi, will anyone give me a direction of how to configure TV-out with my nvidia video adapter in xorg ?, I'm using the default 'nv' driver.
[07:53] <adam_12> halitech, i tried that and they didnt work
[07:53] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, then dont start x
[07:53] <rbil> what does ATL-CTRL F2 do for you?
[07:53] <ANTDx1> how do I not start x?
[07:53] <AdamKili> what's the folder programs are usually installed to? /usr/lib/?
[07:53] <mayday_jay> ANTDx1 did you try including the path in the command?
[07:53] <halitech> adam_12, did you add the user as a samba user?
[07:53] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, delete it from your init scripts
[07:53] <adam_12> halitech, how do i do that?
[07:54] <AdamKili> hello? anyone?
[07:54] <halitech> adam_12 check here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba
[07:54] <ANTDx1> but then how can I fix my xorg config?
[07:54] <adam_12> halitech, thatnx
[07:55] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, your x is irelevent if you cant type in a terminal
[07:55] <marlowe> how do i connect remote desktop via windows vpn box
[07:55] <AdamKili> what's the folder programs are usually installed to? /usr/lib/?
[07:55] <rbil> ANTDx1, you need to get to a terminal and then u can fix things. either ssh or login on the box.
[07:56] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, yeah
[07:56] <iamtheric> ANTDx1, do you know your external ip?
[07:56] <ANTDx1> I don't have any idea.  I'm at a college campus....i'm not sure how my connection works here
[07:56] <marlowe> hello ? any experience on connecting remote desktop to windows over vpn
[07:57] <mayday_jay> ANTDx1, check that your paths aren't missing.  If they are re-establish.  Then do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure X.
[07:57] <ANTDx1> What paths?
[07:57] <iamtheric> mayday_jay, he cant do jack shit
[07:57] <iamtheric> mayday_jay, he cant type in a terminal
[07:57] <halitech> marlowe, if the windows box is set up, use Terminal services client to connect
[07:57] <mayday_jay> ANTDx1 ... he said he could type but his commands wouldn't do anything.
[07:58] <ANTDx1> iamtheric: I copied and pasted that xorg config.  I'm going to see if it helps at all.  If not, I'll probably be back here.  It takes about 5 minutes for me to get the live cd up ayway
[07:58] <rbil> iamtheric, he said he could type "but nothing happens"
[07:58] <marlowe> halitech,i tried that and i was able to connect but i need to go over vpn. I get a prompt on the windows box. Interactive login not allowed......
[07:58] <iamtheric> rbil, basically the same thing
[07:58] <rbil> haha,
[07:58] <rbil> what does he use the livecd for?
[07:58] <iamtheric> i dont know
[07:58] <mayday_jay> iamtheric, if his paths are missing most commands won't work.
[07:59] <halitech> marlowe, not sure, I use vnc to remote my mothers system but no vpn
[07:59] <iamtheric> the basic commands would
[07:59] <adam_12> how do i find my MAC adress
[07:59] <mayday_jay> adam_12 sudo ifconfig
[07:59] <marlowe> halitech, thanks. Im really despirate to have it work over ubuntu. Im sick of windows. But i have no choice on the windows server
[08:00] <rbil> mayday_jay, don't need sudo, just ifconfig
[08:00] <marlowe> I hope somebody has experience about remote desktop and vpn here
[08:00] <iamtheric> ifconfig eth0
[08:00] <No1Viking> Where can I find the channel settings that I have in my Xchat?
[08:01] <iamtheric> makes me glad i dont use ubuntu
[08:01] <rbil> iamtheric, I like ubuntu :-)
[08:01] <halitech> marlowe, check the forum herre http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91249&highlight=vpn
[08:01] <iamtheric> rbil, how many years you used linux?
[08:02] <rbil> 4 or 5, can't remember and then years ago before that
[08:02] <iamtheric> rbil, wow and you use ubuntu?
[08:03] <rbil> what's wrong with ubuntu. I'm enjoying it.
[08:03] <iamtheric> if i am going to use something debian based i want it almost pure
[08:03] <rbil> I like the philosophy behind the ubuntu organization
[08:03] <marlowe> halitech, i have tried and read that site but it doesnt allow me to connect on the remote desktop. My vpn is working on pptpclient.
[08:04] <iamtheric> i still use redhat9
[08:04] <newbuntu> hi all
[08:04] <rbil> last readhat I used was 5
[08:04] <iamtheric> enis you here?
[08:04] <iamtheric> ancient
[08:04] <marlowe> halitech, but when i now use the remote desktop it prompts me with an error not reachable.
[08:04] <marlowe> halitech, im trying to use the ip 192.168.0.2
[08:04] <peeps> what can I use to control my cpu fan speed?
[08:04] <peeps> sorry,i asked a while ago but I went afk and lost the replies
[08:04] <halitech> marlowe, wish I could help more but not that good with vpn
[08:04] <halitech> are you inside a network?
[08:05] <marlowe> no
[08:05] <peeps> also, does anyone have an idea why I can't view my CPU temps?   I am using gkrellm
[08:05] <marlowe> halitech, im directly connected on my adsl internet.
[08:05] <newbuntu> i have an ati radeon video card and its installed and working, but i have no ati gui to say... turn on my tv out capabilities.. any clue how I can get the gui to install or show itself its already installed?
[08:05] <mayday_jay> Marlowe do you have a route set for the VPN network?
[08:05] <tapoxi> Hi everyone. I'm using a new monitor capable of a higher resolution than I had before, but it's not letting me select the higher resolution. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but even upon restarting X it goes to the old resolution. Any ideas?
[08:05] <iamtheric> how many packages are in the ubuntu repositories anyway?
[08:05] <iamtheric> peeps, you dont have the module configured
[08:05] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i think i dont or i did not configure that
[08:05] <peeps> how can i do that?
[08:05] <iamtheric> tapoxi, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:06] <iamtheric> peeps, never tried it
[08:06] <peeps> doh
[08:06] <rbil> tapoxi, edit xorg.conf and add the higher resolution
[08:06] <holycow> and google your horizontal and vertical refresh rates, and input in xorg.conf
[08:06] <mayday_jay> Marlowe are you using pptpconfig?
[08:06] <holycow> then restart x
[08:06] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes
[08:06] <tapoxi> rbil, iamtheeric, thanks
[08:06] <iamtheric> tapoxi, it did that to me with gnome, but when i installed kde it had a bigger resolution
[08:06] <marlowe> mayday_jay, pptp client application status is running when i click the start button
[08:06] <peeps> "acpi -t" tells me "No support for device type: thermal"
[08:07] <peeps> there is a kernel module I need?
[08:07] <iamtheric> peeps, exactly
[08:07] <marlowe> mayday_jay, routing style is client to lan
[08:07] <iamtheric> peeps, yeah
[08:07] <rbil> peeps, have you installed lsensors and configured them?
[08:07] <iamtheric> peeps, look in the repositories
[08:07] <tapoxi> /etc/X11/xorg.conf has the correct resolutions listed...
[08:08] <iamtheric> tapoxi, i ran into that
[08:08] <iamtheric> tapoxi, i installed kde
[08:08] <rbil> tapoxi, default color depth has to match the first resolution on the line you want to use
[08:08] <marlowe> hello ?
[08:08] <zane> whats up?
[08:08] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - I believe there is a network or a route tab...I don't have it installed right now.  2nd tab in I think....
[08:08] <iamtheric> marlowe, hi
[08:08] <marlowe> remote desktop over vpn ( windows server box )
[08:08] <tapoxi> rbil: ?
[08:08] <iamtheric> oh yeah
[08:09] <halitech> marlowe, is the computer you are trying to reach in the same house/apartment or is it in another building?
[08:09] <iamtheric> tapoxi, huh?
[08:09] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes you are correct. I see it.
[08:09] <marlowe> halitech, the computer that i am connecting to is  over another country
[08:09] <iamtheric> marlowe, not enough bandwidth to support a connect i doubt
[08:09] <halitech> marlowe, and you are trying to connect to 192.168.0.2?
[08:10] <marlowe> halitech, yes
[08:10] <mayday_jay> Marlowe...add the 192.168.0.0/24 network....
[08:10] <tapoxi> iamtheeric: Even though my xorg.conf is correct, the gnome resolution applet still won't let me switch, and presents a weird list from what is possibly some other config file
[08:10] <peeps> rbil: what is lsensors, I can find no such package in synaptic or apititude
[08:10] <marlowe> mayday_jay, ok i will try to add that.
[08:10] <marlowe> will do it now
[08:10] <iamtheric> tapoxi, yeah, i got kde, and then that changed around gnome too
[08:10] <darkaura> Holycow I got a question for you
[08:10] <tapoxi> iamtheric: Yeah, but I'm not going to install KDE just to switch resolutions
[08:10] <iamtheric> peeps, add more repositories if you dont have them already
[08:10] <rbil> tapoxi, the DefaultDepth if it's say 16, and you look at Display section, what does the Modes line say?
[08:11] <halitech> marlowe, that could be why, 192.168 IPs are not routable outside your local network
[08:11] <holycow> shoot i'll try to answer
[08:11] <marlowe> RNETLINK answers: invalid argument
[08:11] <iamtheric> marlowe, that would explain alot
[08:11] <iamtheric> tapoxi, edit the gnome applet
[08:11] <marlowe> halitech, possibly what should i do.  On my windows i have no problem. I connect to vpn and connec the remote desktop to 192.168.0.2
[08:11] <elmargol> !mp3
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <tapoxi> rbil: Depth		24
[08:12] <tapoxi> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768"
[08:12] <darkaura> Okay I have a laptop, and it has a sound card built in I'
[08:12] <tapoxi> rbil: default depth is 24
[08:12] <mayday_jay> Also, Marlowe if your local network is on the same subnet 192.168.0.x you will have a problem connecting...
[08:12] <halitech> marlowe, can you get the vpm connection first to the wan IP?
[08:12] <darkaura> I'm buying a usb sound card cause my earphones don't work how would I disable the internal sound card and use the usb one
[08:12] <iamtheric> enis you here?
[08:12] <rbil> tapoxi, should go into then 1280x1024 then
[08:12] <marlowe> halitech yes. I think so because the status is running
[08:12] <darkaura> is some one having problems with resolutions?
[08:13] <marlowe> mayday_jay, error: Network is unreachable
[08:13] <iamtheric> darkaura, he just left
[08:13] <halitech> marlowe, running does not always equal connected
[08:13] <mayday_jay> marlowe - can you ping 192.168.0.2?
[08:13] <marlowe> htalitech, hmmm ok. I agree......
[08:13] <marlowe> mayday_jay, no
[08:14] <marlowe> mayday_jay, ping no reachable also
[08:14] <halitech> marlowe, if you can't ping it sounds like your vpn is not actually connected
[08:14] <marlowe> i agree
[08:14] <rbil> tapoxi, did you copy and paste this: Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768"  don't see a space between Modes and first "
[08:14] <iamtheric> yep
[08:14] <darkaura> well I was having problems switching resolutions, and what I did was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then I went through the setup it came to resoultions and then added all of them and now I can switch resolutions
[08:14] <marlowe> hmmmmm
[08:15] <halitech> marlowe, what IP address did you tell the vpn client to connect to?
[08:15] <marlowe> do i have to set anything or shutdown anything like a firewall ?
[08:16] <darkaura> holycow did you get my question?
[08:16] <halitech> marlowe, if you have a firewall running, you probably need to open up your firewall
[08:16] <marlowe> halitech, i connect the vpn client to connect to 202.154.82.212
[08:16] <rbil> peeps, my mistake it's lm-sensors
[08:16] <holycow> darkaura, typically you would find out what module the kernel is loading for the sound card and rmmod modulename ... then add it to the black list so it doesn't get loaded at start
[08:16] <marlowe> halitech, i think it is able to connect. Because if i set a wrong password it does not have a status running
[08:17] <mayday_jay> marlow - What is your machine's local IP address?
[08:17] <darkaura> and how would I do that?
[08:17] <marlowe> halitech, no firewall running. I uninstalled it
[08:17] <holycow> the problem with sound cards is that mostly they are undocumented and there isn't always an obvious command you can send to power it down ... never mind that the kernel doesn't really support such a thing well yet anyway
[08:17] <marlowe> mayday_jay, machine local ip adress is 222.126.112.176
[08:18] <iamtheric> marlowe, thats not local
[08:18] <Seeker2599> ok this may seem like a stupid question to ask on here but i thought you guys might know the answer, how do i connect with ftp to a server using firefox using my username and password, my server doesnt allow anonomus connections with ftp
[08:18] <iamtheric> marlowe, 192.168.*.*
[08:18] <rbil> peeps ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[08:18] <mayday_jay> That is a routable IP.  Are you behind a router or are you directly connected to a cable modem or dsl modem?
[08:18] <marlowe> iamtheric, oops. sorry
[08:18] <halitech> Seeker username:password@ipaddress or hostname
[08:19] <marlowe> mayday_jay, connected directly to a calbe modem
[08:19] <Seeker2599> ty i knew there was a way
[08:19] <iamtheric> Seeker2599, it doesnt give a prompt?
[08:19] <halitech> sorry, add ftp:// to the beginning
[08:19] <Seeker2599> no
[08:19] <iamtheric> yeah what halitech said
[08:19] <darkaura> SEEKER2599 - install  gFTP its easier than using firefox
[08:20] <mayday_jay> do you see 192.168.0.x if you type route in a shell?
[08:20] <Seeker2599> i did but its not connecting
[08:20] <marlowe> mayday_jay. will try to type route
[08:20] <Seeker2599> and it just froze
[08:20] <marlowe> mayday_jay, no 192.xxx
[08:21] <mayday_jay> marlowe, when you added the network on the route tab did you highlight the connection, click update and then reconnect?
[08:21] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes yes yes. I forgot to run the pptp again. Now it is running and i see the 192.168.0.1
[08:22] <Seeker2599> can i upload using firefox?
[08:22] <mayday_jay> Marlowe, now try to connect...
[08:22] <halitech> Seeker, sure can
[08:22] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i see now
[08:22] <Ademan_> technically in a UML diagram, when a class implements another class, does the arrow point to the parent class or the child class?
[08:22] <Seeker2599> how, my brains not working tonight
[08:23] <mayday_jay> Marlowe...so you are connecting?
[08:23] <darkaura> Holycow in device manager I see intel ich6 alsa control device is that my sound card?
[08:23] <marlowe> mayday_jay, 192.168.0.1     *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[08:23] <halitech> open your file manager, right click and copy the file and then paste it into the ff window
[08:23] <Seeker2599> well duh
[08:23] <Seeker2599> lol ty
[08:23] <marlowe> mayday_jay, yes it is connected to the vpn. I think. But the remote desktop is not able to connect to the 192.168.0.2 which is what i use on my windows environment to connect to the remote desktop server
[08:23] <halitech> Seeker, no problem, we all have brain farts :)
[08:24] <jordan> Ademan,  I believe the child although I am not sure.
[08:24] <iamtheric> its about 230 in est
[08:24] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - Did you type in 192.168.0.0/24 for the network or did you type 192.168.0.1 ... the first one is what you need....so it routes the whole class c
[08:24] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i typed 192.168.0.0/ 24. The one you instructed
[08:25] <halitech> iamtheric, it's 3:24 ast
[08:25] <iamtheric> am or pm?
[08:25] <halitech> am
[08:25] <Seeker2599> what am i doing wrong, when i copy and paste it, it tries to open it
[08:25] <iamtheric> yeah
[08:25] <iamtheric> fail
[08:26] <halitech> Seeker, what error message do you get?
[08:26] <marlowe> mayday_jay, i typed it as 192.168.0.01 but when i check it back. It is defaulted to 192.168.0.1
[08:26] <halitech> d'oh, never mind
[08:26] <marlowe> mayday_jay, sorry
[08:26] <halitech> where are you pasting it?
[08:26] <Seeker2599> in my /www/ folder
[08:27] <marlowe> mayday_jay, typed it as 192.168.0.0 then it goes 192.168.0.1
[08:27] <mooseman089> hey
[08:27] <Seeker2599> is there a different ftp client i can use besides gftp
[08:27] <halitech> don't take this the wrong way but you aren't pasting it in the address bar are you?
[08:27] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - That should get you connected ... I've used that config in the past to connect to a Windows PPTP connection at work...so basically I needed to set username, password, route, IP on PPTP server, and then I have access to the network....
[08:27] <Seeker2599> no
[08:28] <Seeker2599> gftp has crashed twice now
[08:28] <halitech> ok, not sure why it would be trying to open the file then
[08:28] <Seeker2599> i dont know either
[08:28] <halitech> there should be a few in synaptic if you look for ftp
[08:28] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:28] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - You've connected to this VPN via a Windows box and it serves you an IP?
[08:29] <marlowe> mayday_jay, pptconfig status is running ( or should i assume connected ). But then a ping on 192.168.0.2 = DEstination Net unreachble
[08:29] <mooseman089> ok i have apache running on my ubuntu box for a web server and it was working fine but all the sudden it stopped loading so i did /etc/init.d/apache2 reload and i got warnings that it couldnt bind to address [::] :80
[08:29] <darkaura> if gftp doesn't work try kftpgrabber
[08:29] <Seeker2599> ok ty i will
[08:29] <marlowe> mayday_jay, I have connected to the windows box. But i dont know if it serves my an ip. I just connect using the 192.168.0.2
[08:29] <mooseman089> i did netstat  -lnp | grep 80 and i found that gnome panel apps for some reason binded to the port
[08:30] <mooseman089> if i kill their pid then the apache server works
[08:30] <darkaura> I use to use gftp but it didn't do everything I needed it to, so I use kftpgrabber
[08:30] <mooseman089> but why would gnome do that
[08:30] <halitech> ok, here's an idea and this worked for me, go to places and connect to server, select ftp (with login) put in the rest of the info and it should connect and allow you to treat it like a folder
[08:30] <mooseman089> and the exact same thing happened to my secondary web server that i rarely us
[08:30] <mayday_jay> Marlowe....it shouldn't change back to 192.168.0.1 - it should go to 192.168.0.0/24.  Delete it readd, highlight and update connection....then check in config...the reconnect...I'm sure its a routing thing if you are connecting alright but can't pass traffic...
[08:31] <cafuego> mooseman089: If they don't run as root, they cannot bind to port 80.
[08:31] <marlowe> mayday_jay, ok i will do that again
[08:31] <mooseman089> how would things like the volume control run as root
[08:32] <cafuego> I'm just saying, if it's bound to port 80, it *has* to run as root.
[08:32] <mooseman089> but the weird thing is it suddenly happened because my friend was using it fine and then he sent a message saying it stopped
[08:33] <cafuego> mooseman089: What happens when you telnet to port 80?
[08:33] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - did it work
[08:33] <mooseman089> says connected to localhost then nothing else
[08:33] <marlowe> mayday_jay, your a genius. YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:33] <marlowe> mayday_jay, thanks thanks thanks. I am now able to connect
[08:34] <Seeker2599> installing now
[08:34] <marlowe> via remote desktop
[08:34] <cafuego> mooseman089: Type "GET / HTTP/1.1" and hit return twice.
[08:34] <marlowe> YAHOOOOOOO
[08:34] <mayday_jay> Cool - glad I could help...
[08:34] <mooseman089> nothing returned
[08:34] <marlowe> mayday_jay. now i will try to ftp also
[08:34] <palski> There is a link in usr/bin/X11 which points to .? why?
[08:34] <mooseman089> it just stayed blank
[08:34] <cafuego> mooseman089: it's just sitting there?
[08:35] <mooseman089> yea
[08:35] <cafuego> mooseman089: hit return again
[08:35] <mooseman089> i did
[08:35] <drack> Reinstall done
[08:35] <mooseman089> then i hit it a couple more times for fun and still nothing
[08:35] <drack> 30 minutes, not bad
[08:36] <halitech> night everyone
[08:36] <marlowe> now the remote desktop is on hang. wow. anyways its good to see the screen of the server. Thanks to all
[08:36] <cafuego> mooseman089: Anything in your apache access_log?
[08:36] <mooseman089> well when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 reload it says unable to open log file
[08:37] <cafuego> Are you running that as root?
[08:37] <Seeker2599>  kftpgrabber is asking for a url and a host name what do i put in host name
[08:37] <mooseman089> yea
[08:37] <mooseman089> im logined in as over ssh
[08:37] <cafuego> mooseman089: 'aapche2ctl configtest'
[08:37] <cafuego> 'apache2ctl configtest' even
[08:37] <mooseman089> nothing interesting
[08:38] <Seeker2599> sorry guys im being a complete idiot right now
[08:38] <darkaura> hold on Seeker2599 I'll walk you through it just let me start it up on my end
[08:38] <mooseman089> just the same as always but im sure its port bindings
[08:38] <rbil> is restart different than reload?
[08:38] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:38] <mayday_jay> mooseman089 - what does netstat -lp | grep http return
[08:38] <Seeker2599> ty
[08:38] <mooseman089> if i change the listening port from 80 to 83 it works
[08:38] <cafuego> mooseman089: It's not saying it has a problem with its log file?
[08:38] <marlowe> mayday_jay, how do i automate the connection for the vpn when i do remote desktop ?
[08:38] <Seeker2599> ive got all the info put in i just dont know what to put for host name
[08:38] <mooseman089> netstat -lp | grep http
[08:38] <mooseman089> tcp6       0      0 *:https                 *:*                     LISTEN     4683/apache2
[08:39] <cafuego> mooseman089: Any chance a leftover apache2 process is still listening on port 80?
[08:39] <mooseman089> i dont know why its tcp6 though because i dont use ipv6
[08:39] <mooseman089> i rebooted a couple times
[08:39] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - goto file and Quick Connect
[08:39] <mooseman089> and tried apache2ctl stop
[08:39] <Seeker2599> i did
[08:39] <cafuego> mooseman089: Can you tell me IP of the apache2 server?
[08:40] <mayday_jay> Marlowe - you would have to write a pppscript to do that.... a little more complex than using pptpconfig -- pptpconfig is basically doing that for you...
[08:40] <Shadow_mil> gnome panel is acting up, it shows up in the middle of the screen and it keeps forgetting it's setting
[08:40] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - under url put the url your ftping to
[08:40] <Seeker2599> i did
[08:40] <mooseman089> cafuego did you get the pm?
[08:40] <cafuego> nope
[08:41] <cafuego> you not identified with nickserv?
[08:41] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - then under username  put your user name and under password put password
[08:41] <Seeker2599> what about hostname
[08:41] <Seeker2599> or host
[08:41] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - don't worry about that
[08:42] <mayday_jay> mooseman089 - netstat -lp show anything listening on 80?
[08:42] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - Make sure you have add to bookmarks checked so you won't have to do this over again
[08:42] <Seeker2599> well when i click connect is says please enter a hostname
[08:43] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - close that and do a new quick connect I did something wrong
[08:44] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:44] <bayzider> Ok, I relly need some help. I installed a windows program thorugh wine and it needs activex. How do I get that?
[08:44] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - under host name put the url
[08:45] <Seeker2599> with http:// ?
[08:45] <darkaura> no http:// or www.
[08:45] <Seeker2599> ok
[08:46] <darkaura> so for example if you wanted to ftp to tripod it would be ftp.tripod.com in the host box
[08:46] <bayzider> So, any one know how to do that?
[08:46] <Seeker2599> HOT DAMN! sorry
[08:46] <Seeker2599> thank you so much darkaura
[08:47] <Seeker2599> and everyone else that stayed patient with me
[08:48] <Seeker2599> lol i shut everyone up
[08:48] <darkaura> Seeker2599 - did it work?
[08:48] <Seeker2599> yes it did perfectly
[08:48] <darkaura> sorry my chat wen funny
[08:48] <wolfbane_691> hey i have a quick question why are some games on ubuntu act slow and sluggish?
[08:49] <wolfbane_691> is it my video card
[08:49] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - what games?
[08:49] <b0xii> wolfbane_691: no acceleration?
[08:49] <wolfbane_691> like chromium
[08:49] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - and what is your video card?
[08:50] <Seeker2599> well thank you again everyone im going to go ftp now
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> ati 64
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> 64 mb
[08:50] <bayzider> So, no one knows how to do that?
[08:50] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - you have Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> a few days ago they ran just fine
[08:50] <wolfbane_691> i do
[08:51] <davin> Hi, im running Kubuntu 6.06 LTS, Id like to use GNOME too (both), but when I try to install ubuntu-desktop I get some errors about langauge-selector and libglib2.0-data ?
[08:51] <bayzider>  Ok, I relly need some help. I installed a windows program thorugh wine and it needs activex. How do I get that?
[08:51] <wolfbane_691> any thoughts
[08:51] <davin> bayzider: #winehq
[08:51] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - looking for answers now
[08:52] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[08:52] <bayzider> davin: what?
[08:52] <davin> bayzider: ask your wine questions in #winehq
[08:52] <bayzider> kk
[08:52] <wolfbane_691> does ubuntu run apps in the background?
[08:53] <wolfbane_691> cause i thought of that
[08:53] <wolfbane_691> maybe it could slow things down?
[08:53] <wolfbane_691> just a thought
[08:54] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - your video card an ATI Rage or ATI Radeon?
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> ati radeon
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> 8500
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> le
[08:54] <Ademan_> how can you find the BusID of your video card?
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> L E
[08:54] <wolfbane_691> 64 bit
[08:55] <SurfnKid> Adam__,  lspci
[08:55] <SurfnKid> Adam__,  lspci -v
[08:55] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - I came across this page you might want to check out it may help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:55] <SurfnKid> Ademan, lspci -v
[08:55] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[08:55] <darkaura> Wow I'm doing not bad for only using Ubuntu for a month
[08:56] <SurfnKid> darkaura, its amazing aint it
[08:56] <Dheeraj_k> Happy diwali to all :)
[08:57] <Lynoure> That ati card should work fine with free drivers, too... so if it does not, might make sense to see if a bug needs to be reported
[08:58] <darkaura> SurfnKid - I've tried other linux distros, but always returned to windows in about 3 weeks after installing, installed Ubuntu and I've had it installed for a month
[08:59] <darkaura> Don't want to return to windows
[08:59] <wolfbane_691> ok 1 more thing i have a game called armyops250 whats the command line to install and run it
[08:59] <starsky_hutchy> darkaura, Ubuntu's great :)
[09:00] <Dheeraj_k> it is not possible to ignore windows
[09:00] <bayzider> My deufaltfont is really screwed up how do I put it back to normal
[09:00] <starsky_hutchy> Dheeraj_k, maybe.
[09:00] <jordan> I need some help following a this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent, when it says "Rename the file 'isolinux.cfg' to 'syslinux.cfg'" Where is this file supposed to be?
[09:00] <darkaura> wolfbane_691 - I believe it would be sudo sh ./armyops250.run
[09:01] <SurfnKid> darkaura, yep i only go to windows when i play a game or defrag my usb drive
[09:01] <SurfnKid> but other than that, im in the underground internet life forever with ubuntu
[09:01] <wolfbane_691> is that to install
[09:01] <darkaura> sorry I have to go now
[09:02] <jordan> I need some help following a this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent, when it says "Rename the file 'isolinux.cfg' to 'syslinux.cfg'" Where is this file supposed to be? Is it supposed to be in the root of the pen drive?
[09:03] <sidny4> are there widgets for gnome? or are they mostly for KDE and other interfaces?
[09:03] <wolfbane_691> what do i type to run it?
[09:04] <jordan> sidny4, try gdesklets.
[09:04] <sidny4> ok
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> good news MSDN for Linux developers http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8006773943.html
[09:05] <bayzider> does any one know how to fix my problem
[09:05] <jordan> Please, can someone confirm that the file is supposed to be on the root of the drive?
[09:06] <starsky_hutchy> !redmond
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redmond - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <yakumo> hello anyone know how to use tovid?
[09:14] <Daverocks> !anyone
[09:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:15] <sidny4> how do you configure a synaptics touchpad?
[09:21] <sidny4> !synaptics
[09:22] <infidel> ?j #electronics
[09:22] <sidny4> !synaptics
[09:23] <Shadow_mil> net split
[09:23] <berent> what hap
[09:23] <berent> so many quit
[09:23] <Milchmann> hi, i've installed the kubuntu-desktop. now how do i get the ubuntu loadscreen back?
[09:24] <Flannel> net split, no need to worry, just sit back and enjoy the ride ;)
[09:24] <berent> what isnet split
[09:24] <Milchmann> server loose connection
[09:24] <Milchmann> servers
[09:24] <Flannel> a netsplit is when two (or more) of the IRC servers lose connections with each other
[09:24] <sidny4> woohoo!
[09:24] <Flannel> ubotu has a factoid, but he's on the other side at the moment ;)
[09:25] <Milchmann> and the user on the server who got disconnected from the net dont see us and we dont see them
[09:25] <berent> wow
[09:25] <berent> but how are they binded again
[09:25] <berent> bind again
[09:25] <Milchmann> when the server reconnects to the net
[09:25] <Milchmann> freenode is not only one server
[09:25] <zeroinc> lol
[09:25] <Elwyn> bewm
[09:25] <kraut> moin
[09:25] <compengi> !mp3
[09:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:26] <Milchmann> so, once again ;), i've installed the kubuntu-desktop. now how do i get the ubuntu loadscreen back?
[09:26] <winterweaver> hey all ^.^
[09:26] <sidny4> !synaptics
[09:26] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[09:26] <sasper> I'm currently booted into and running on the Live Ubuntu CD, and want to install ubuntu fully. However, nothing happens when I click the Install icon the desktop. Any suggestions?
[09:27] <berent> how will both servers join together to show cumulative users
[09:28] <berent> after net split
[09:28] <Werdnum> is there a package bot in here?
[09:29] <sasper> no one can help with support on my issue at all?
[09:29] <Werdnum> ~tell me about blender
[09:29] <Werdnum> !blender
[09:29] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[09:29] <Werdnum> !gameblender
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gameblender - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Milchmann> sorry, sasper. you could try the alternate cd
[09:29] <Milchmann> but there should be an easier way
[09:29] <berent> how will both servers join together to show cumulative users after net split
[09:30] <sasper> there isn't a cmd line way to do the install?
[09:30] <Milchmann> there sure is, but i dont know the command
[09:30] <Flannel> berent: same as they do beforehand
[09:30] <winterweaver> sasper, yeah me2
[09:30] <Milchmann> you could check the properties of the link on the desktop
[09:30] <Milchmann> see where it points
[09:30] <Milchmann> and then execute that command in the shell
[09:31] <berent> Flannel: can you explain "doing beforehand"
[09:31] <Flannel> berent: sure, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:31] <sasper> tried that already... doesn't work either ;)
[09:31] <nip> 4u
[09:31] <berent> Flannel: come over I have joined it
[09:31] <sasper> ** (gksudo:7510): WARNING **: Could not load desktop file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <nip> kjkl
[09:32] <sasper> the command from the desktop shortcut is  gksudo --desktop %k ubiquity gtkui
[09:33] <compengi> variant, what's the best source.list list, because i'm searching for some software in synaptic and it can't find it
[09:33] <jazzrocker> what's an aac file?
[09:33] <jazzrocker> can ubuntu play them? some sort of media format?
[09:33] <winterweaver> sooo.... I'm gonna rollback my NVidia Drivers now, I downloaded the earlier version from NVidia, I've made a backup of my xorg.conf.... Is there anything else I may need to backup just in case?? (I'm running a TwinView (Dual Monitors))
[09:33] <gansinho> ok, I'll ask another way, I really want to upgrade from dapper to edgy, but, gksudo "update-manager -c -d", gives me an error output, maybe because of xgl, is there another way to upgrade the OS ?
[09:34] <XiXaQ> jazzrocker, sound I think.'
[09:34] <vorbote> jazzrocker: advanced audio coding. It is part of the MPEG4 standards. Yes, install the gstreamer ugly plugins in multiverse.
[09:35] <jazzrocker> ahh, google says it's the iTunes format
[09:35] <vorbote> Or gstreamer ffmpeg
[09:35] <vorbote> jazzrocker: not exactly...
[09:35] <sasper> what the fuck. i thought ubuntu was supposed to be "easy to install", and yet i can't even get the installation running!
[09:36] <Jay2> sasper, be patient, it took me awhile, but it's worth it
[09:36] <jazzrocker> vorbote, so, what, exactly is it?
[09:36] <vorbote> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding
[09:36] <starsky_hutchy> sasper, Jay2
[09:36] <Snottlebocket> hey guys, is there something like a beginner's guide to ubuntu? it's time to format my pc and i'm looking at installing ubuntu instead of win xp because i keep reading positive things about it but i'm entirely new at linux so i'd like to get some idea of what i'm getting into and whether ubuntu is even a good choice for me
[09:36] <strike> hi, I have just installed ubuntu desktop, by default it does not have a root password. How can I assign password to root?
[09:36] <i386> hello
[09:36] <starsky_hutchy> :)
[09:36] <jazzrocker> vorbote, yeah, i just read that actually
[09:36] <i386> anyone have a good resource on creating Icon themes ?
[09:36] <sasper> Jay2: i can't even get the installation to run!
[09:36] <strike> hi, I have just installed ubuntu desktop, by default it does not have a root password. How can I assign password to root?
[09:37] <winterweaver> sasper, I didn't have any probs ?? >.<  ... what system do you have?
[09:37] <vorbote> Apple uses one of the formats defined in the standard. AAC was before the iPod.
[09:37] <Flannel> strike: ubuntu uses sudo instead of root
[09:37] <vorbote> If you've listened to satelite radio, that's in AAC
[09:37] <sasper> winterweater: the system shouldn't matter. i'm currently running on the ubuntu 'live install cd'
[09:37] <BrianG> !ohmy
[09:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:37] <jazzrocker> vorbote, does the itunes encoder create files with the aac extension? or does it use something else?
[09:38] <XiXaQ> sasper, I have never heard of that problem before.
[09:38] <Jay2> sasper, for me, it was just a matter of changing to a faster cdrom
[09:38] <frogzoo> which is the best versn of wine to run WoW - I get constant freezes with 0.9.23
[09:38] <strike> Flannel: thats right but I do not want user to be able to mess with setting and I want multiple users on the system
[09:38] <XiXaQ> sasper, it's the easiest install I have ever done.
[09:38] <Flannel> strike: if a user doesn't have admin rights, he can't use sudo
[09:38] <vorbote> I don't recall. If they are raw, they should use the .aac extension. If they use an mpeg4 container, the extension would be .mp4 or .m4a
[09:39] <compengi> what's the best source.list list, because i'm searching for some software in synaptic and it can't find it
[09:39] <Flannel> compengi: like what software?
[09:39] <strike> Flannel: but is there a way to set password for root?
[09:39] <frogzoo> !easysource > compengi
[09:39] <Flannel> strike: sure, but there's really no reason to
[09:39] <Flannel> !tell strike about rootsudo
[09:39] <compengi> Flannel, gnomebaker....
[09:40] <XiXaQ> !tell XiXaQ about rootsudo
[09:40] <frogzoo> XiXaQ: you can /msg ubotu
[09:40] <Flannel> compengi: you need to enable universe
[09:40] <Flannel> !tell compengi about universe
[09:42] <lando> anyone got a good script to replace filename spaces with underscores
[09:42] <Matii> Hey gays, If I now download the Edgy RC adn intall it fresh, do I need to dl the final version?
[09:43] <crimsun> Matii: no, you can update && dist-upgrade to it
[09:43] <Flannel> Matii: no, you'll update to the final
[09:43] <Matii> Good, cos I think I'm installing windows for dual boot =(
[09:43] <Snottlebocket> besides being free, what advantages does ubuntu have over windows?
[09:43] <compengi> Flannel, sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:43] <compengi> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found O.o
[09:44] <Flannel> compengi: you need an editor in there, is that command given on the wiki? (which page, so I can fix it)
[09:44] <Matii> compengi: Omg
[09:44] <Flannel> compengi: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <Matii> compengi: Do you just switched to ubuntu?
[09:44] <Matii> did*
[09:45] <compengi> yes yesterday i just installed it
[09:45] <compengi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[09:45] <Matii> Ok
[09:45] <starsky_hutchy> !windows
[09:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:45] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: all the software is free, you can modify it for your use, it's quite stable and compared to XP, very fast on older hardware
[09:45] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: the filesystem has a lot of benefits, including symbolic links and other goodies
[09:45] <Snottlebocket> is there a big switch in gui? ie am i going to be working at half speed for weeks while i figure it out?
[09:45] <ziabice> re all
[09:46] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: what did you do on windows? just email and web browsing? or what
[09:46] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, you'll find it amazing. :)
[09:46] <vorbote> Flannel: no, unless you are a "power user".
[09:46] <Snottlebocket> i do flash development, bit of graphic work, some low end coding and website building
[09:46] <vorbote> Pardon, that was for Snottlebocket
[09:46] <compengi> Flannel, that error i got is the first time, i did before alot changes in source list but didn't get any familliar error like this one =/
[09:47] <Snottlebocket> i guess windows specific i mostly browse, email and manage my files i guess, i just need to make sure i can keep working with my graphics programs
[09:47] <compengi> Flannel, why is that
[09:48] <Snottlebocket> not to mention avoiding comptabibility issues with my coworkers
[09:48] <bob23654> hello
[09:48] <Flannel> compengi: why is what?  the nano? because you need to use a text editor ;)
[09:48] <compengi> Flannel, how to get it?
[09:48] <Flannel> compengi: you already have it: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list will work fine
[09:48] <ziabice> can someone help me before I fire a bug to launchpad?
[09:49] <starsky_hutchy> !compengi
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compengi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <compengi> but before i used only sudo /etc/....
[09:49] <ziabice> I'm on a fresh updated dapper to edgy
[09:49] <Flannel> ziabice: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[09:49] <Snottlebocket> is this channel always this busy?
[09:49] <bob23654> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports USB ADSL modems???
[09:49] <ziabice> Flannel: thanks! ;)
[09:49] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: if you want to keep on using the exact same programs, and there is no Linux version for them, that might be a problem (but nothing wmware would not solve)
[09:49] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, almost. sometimes even more. :)
[09:50] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: the only issue you'll run into is flash development, I have no idea how/if flash will work in wine
[09:50] <Snottlebocket> see that doesn't mean anything to me, "in wine"?
[09:50] <tabman> when I try to install ubuntu from boot cd I get the following error: PCI:cannot allocate resource region 3 of device
[09:51] <Lynoure> !wine
[09:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:51] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, wine is a compatibility layer for Linux. Lets you run windows programs in Linux.
[09:51] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: windows and linux are different, they can't run the 'same' programs (you can run the same programs, but not the same exact file)
[09:51] <Snottlebocket> adobe has a linux flash i think
[09:51] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: you can get firefox for windows, and firefox for linux, for instance, but they're not identical
[09:51] <compengi> Flannel, but before i used only sudo /etc/....
[09:51] <Flannel> compengi: and that won't work
[09:52] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, it's free software. you have to ask, research. no one has obligations or anything. No one
[09:52] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, 's even forcing you
[09:52] <compengi> Flannel, it was lol, before i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:52] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: you'll want to find out for sure
[09:52] <Snottlebocket> hm, i figured when you produce a flash file in linux it would be identical to the file produced by a windows flash, mac and windows have that in common
[09:52] <Flannel> compengi: no, seriously, that absolutely will not do anything.  Well, except error.
[09:52] <Snottlebocket> flash always banks on working perfectly cross platform
[09:53] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: right, flash files will.  But the programs you use won't.  Flash runs in the flash player, not on linux itself
[09:53] <Snottlebocket> ah right, got it
[09:53] <Snottlebocket> hm, maybe i should find a cheap second pc to try it out on first before putting it on my main machine
[09:54] <zen2> anyone wanna help with a update i am havveing hassles with
[09:54] <zen2> http://pastebin.ca/213184
[09:54] <zen2> is the paste link
[09:54] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: have you tried a live-cd yet?
[09:54] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: that's one solution, the other is to dualboot, and have them both on the same machine (you run one, or the other, sort of thing) to try.  Of course, you can also try the liveCD, if you want to just take a gander
[09:54] <Snottlebocket> nope, i'm gathering as much info as i can before doing anything
[09:54] <Snottlebocket> what is the live cd exactly?
[09:55] <Snottlebocket> i know i should look this stuff up, there's just so much ubuntu info i'm trying to read everything at once
[09:55] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: it does not change anything in your system, but lets you try Ubuntu off a cd
[09:55] <Snottlebocket> ah, i'll check that one out, seems convenient
[09:55] <Flannel> Snottlebocket: your computer will boot to the CD, and run entirely off the CD (and slower because of that, obviously).  As long as you don't click the "install" link on the desktop, your computer will be untouched
[09:55] <bob23654> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports USB ADSL modems???
[09:56] <Snottlebocket> thanks guys, i'll do some reading and try the live cd
[09:56] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, what kind of internet connection do you have?
[09:56] <Snottlebocket> cable, through a router
[09:56] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, with a password, or are you connected once you plug the cable?
[09:57] <Snottlebocket> connected right away
[09:57] <Snottlebocket> only had to tinker a bit with the ip and ethermask settings and such
[09:58] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, right. Try out the live cd. I think you'll like it. There are irc clients available and you shouldn't have any difficulties connecting.
[09:58] <XiXaQ> bob23654, have you tried?
[09:59] <compengi> Flannel, how do i get mp3 formats working?
[09:59] <XiXaQ> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:59] <mwe> !mp3 > compengi
[09:59] <Snottlebocket> hm, flash only has mac and windows installers, i could have sworn they had a linux one too
[09:59] <winterweaver> could someone help me?? I type this command: sysctl hw.nvidia.registry , but I get a error message -  error: "hw.nvidia.registry" is an unknown key... I'm trying to enable fast writes on my nvidia
[09:59] <mwe> Snottlebocket: it does
[09:59] <mwe> Snottlebocket: only version 7 though unless you use mozplugger
[10:00] <Flannel> mwe: not "Flash" the writer
[10:00] <mwe> oh
[10:00] <mwe> right
[10:00] <Flannel> well, I have no idea if it does or not, but you're talking about the player, I know that much
[10:00] <Lynoure> There are some open source Flash development tools
[10:00] <Lynoure> but I have no idea how good they are
[10:00] <starsky_hutchy> !flash9 > Snottlebocket
[10:01] <Snottlebocket> ah yeah the player, i need the actual development program though for production
[10:01] <bob23654> does anyone know if Ubuntu supports USB ADSL modems???
[10:01] <Snottlebocket> if i can actually make flash on ubuntu it's kind of useless to me
[10:01] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions too. :)
[10:01] <vorbote> !mp3
[10:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:01] <zen2> http://pastebin.ca/213194
[10:01] <Foc> !flash9 > Foc
[10:01] <zen2> can someone read this and tell me whaty i did wrong
[10:02] <Snottlebocket> thanks, i was kind of overwhelmed with the amount of ubuntu info and help pages online
[10:02] <starsky_hutchy> bob23654, you seem to be lost. try googling.
[10:02] <mwe> I'm pretty sure adobe doesn't provide the flash writer for linux, Snottlebocket
[10:03] <Lynoure> bob23654: if I remember right, some of them but not all of them
[10:03] <vorbote> bob23654:  Check http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/ for most el-cheapo boxes.
[10:03] <Snottlebocket> hm, well i doubt ubuntu is usefull for me right now then considering i work at home as much as at the office
[10:03] <compengi> Flannel, i did the source.list thing but still can't get results in synaptic =/
[10:04] <vorbote> bob23654: the speedtouch drivers are in the repositories (in multiverse I'm afraid)
[10:04] <bob23654> ok anyone know about Dynalink?
[10:04] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: if you want, you could run Windows in a virtual machine, and Flash on that
[10:04] <vorbote> bob23654: AFAIK, that would work with eciadsl
[10:04] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, use wine if you are desperate.
[10:04] <starsky_hutchy> !wine > Snottlebocket
[10:04] <mwe> Snottlebocket: if you need to use a lot of windows only tools all the time linux is probably a bad choice :)
[10:05] <bob23654> Eciadsl does support my modem can anyone help me with that program?
[10:05] <Snottlebocket> i'm not desperate really, i was looking into ubuntu as a windows alternative, i'm not all that interested in running both side by side
[10:05] <vorbote> bob23654: but don't take my word at face value.
[10:05] <Lynoure> Snottlebocket: but I can understand if that feels like a hassle, but on the other hand it adds to security
[10:05] <Snottlebocket> besides i do flash a lot, if i can't run flash in linux i'd end up doing ubuntu from 11pm to 12pm while i do some personal stuff
[10:05] <winterweaver> forget flash ^.^ support FOSS :P
[10:06] <winterweaver> i'm not one to talk .... I'm not using all open source software either :P
[10:06] <Snottlebocket> how memory efficient is using wine?
[10:06] <winterweaver> well... as I understand really good
[10:06] <winterweaver> I ran photoshop on it once... no probs
[10:07] <winterweaver> ran at eh same speed as my extinct win box
[10:07] <bob23654> is anyone here running Eciadsl?
[10:07] <Snottlebocket> i still think i'll try out the live cd and then install ubuntu on a second box once i find one for my "office" kind of needs while sticking with a windows machine for all my graphics work
[10:08] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, Flash is proprietary. Ubuntu's not.
[10:08] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, the Gimp is really cool.
[10:08] <starsky_hutchy> bob23654, not me.
[10:08] <vorbote> bob23654: I haven't used it in a log while, but eciadsl is easy to install and configure. Check the database in the web site, compile and install the source code (always more up-to-date than the copy in the repos), configure with the supplied script, launch, use pppoeconf to configure PPPoE if necessary, add startup script to /etc/init.d
[10:08] <Draconicus> I'm having some trouble with a wireless PCI card. iwconfig sees my wireless network, but I don't know how to make it connect. Could somebody help me?
[10:08] <Snottlebocket> gimp is cool, but it's no photoshop by a longshot
[10:08] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, just boot from live cd, install wine and install your Flash Studio or whatever it is called.
[10:08] <sky123> Anybody here use plone for content management? and...curious what you think of it...
[10:09] <Snottlebocket> i will xi
[10:09] <winterweaver> snottlebocket: the new Gimp should be released soon... with new graphics libs
[10:09] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, keep in mind that the system will be much slower because you're running from the cd.
[10:09] <winterweaver> we have been waiting for 4 years :P
[10:09] <starsky_hutchy> sky123, I heard zope is kind of grand daddy. :)
[10:09] <Snottlebocket> anyway, i'm gonna go work through some information and putz about with this live cd, thanks for all the help guys, this has been one of the most informative and helpfull channels i've been in so far on irc
[10:09] <Ruudi> hi
[10:10] <XiXaQ> Snottlebocket, glad to hear it. :)
[10:10] <Jsgmob> Zope is pretty cool
[10:10] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, remember to read docs. it's a great operating system but only if you're willing to invest in a bit of time.
[10:10] <compengi> i need a good source list where can i find it?
[10:10] <sky123> starsk_hutchy: yeah Im looking at Zope too...which is pretty darn extensive...The question really is whether it will support vhosts for multiple sites..and make the matter of admin easy..
[10:10] <starsky_hutchy> Snottlebocket, and btw, glad to hear that.
[10:10] <Snottlebocket> i am starksy, there were just so many docs i decided to come here for some quick condensed info to make some decisions
[10:10] <winterweaver> I've got a bit more advanced question for those with cewl Linux-Fu
[10:10] <Snottlebocket> anywho take care all
[10:10] <XiXaQ> compengi, source-o-matic?
[10:11] <Jsgmob> Zope can do that
[10:11] <XiXaQ> compengi, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:11] <winterweaver> could someone help me?? I type this command: sysctl hw.nvidia.registry , but I get a error message -  error: "hw.nvidia.registry" is an unknown key... I'm trying to enable fast writes on my nvidia
[10:11] <winterweaver> what am I doing wrong ?
[10:11] <compengi> XiXaQ, i didn't get good results in repost =/
[10:11] <Draconicus> Nobody in here knows about wireless?
[10:11] <Draconicus> !wireless
[10:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:11] <starsky_hutchy> sky123, Zope is really extensive man.
[10:12] <starsky_hutchy> sky123, it's certainly worth a shot.
[10:12] <sky123> Jsgmob: Im try to help out a couple of schools, manage their own content and thought that this would be a good idea...
[10:12] <winterweaver> go for zope
[10:12] <compengi> XiXaQ, i'm using this source list but i'm searching for software in synaptic i don't get results
[10:13] <XiXaQ> compengi, have you reloaded?
[10:13] <compengi> XiXaQ, i did apt-get update and upgrade
[10:13] <winterweaver> look up plone if you want, runs off zope if I'm not mistaken ?
[10:14] <sky123> Zope it is then... The goal is that I have established some really good repore with helping some schools with minimal budget and thought what a cool way for them to manage their sites etc... The goal of course being to manage it... plus the edubuntu thin client stuff is very cool too.
[10:14] <XiXaQ> compengi, which version of Ubuntu do you run, and what software is it you cannot find?
[10:15] <starsky_hutchy> winterweaver, zope is grand daddy of all meaning, it can host php stuffs, python's plone etc..
[10:15] <sky123> Plus...the use of wiki's for knowledgebases abd the use of moodle or something like that allows for online classes...
[10:15] <sky123> Is anyone on here involved heavily with the Education portion of Ubuntu or Edubuntu??
[10:15] <compengi> XiXaQ, i'm running dapper and i'm searching for a gnomebaker which should be found
[10:15] <Hal_> I am running ndiswrapper on a netgear wg111v2, kernel 2.6.x with an AMD 64 processor. Have just recently discovered a very strange issue whereby I can ONLY ping given domains such as google.com, yahoo.com, but domains like msn.com will not work.
[10:16] <winterweaver> starsky_hutchy, cewl ... now I know for future ref ^.^
[10:16] <utnubu> i have 4 users running on my linux box in ubuntu and dont know how they got started or how to end them. how could i kill them
[10:16] <Draconicus> My wireless card is seen properly by iwconfig, though it's ath0. ifup won't do anything with it.
[10:16] <sky123> Id like to work with someone here...that deals speicically with the Edubuntu end of things..and talk about grading software, calendering ..etc..
[10:16] <Draconicus> It says it doesn't exist.
[10:16] <Draconicus> Any thoughts?
[10:16] <lw> i  cant login system with another account, who can help me ??
[10:16] <XiXaQ> compengi, do you get any errors while updating?
[10:17] <sky123> lw: you at least one account setup right??
[10:17] <winterweaver> sky123, I think there is a edubuntu channel
[10:17] <winterweaver> sky123, I'm sure you will find heaps more info there
[10:17] <sky123> winterweaver: will check it out thnx
[10:17] <compengi> XiXaQ, i have like a link that gave you the best edited source list, but it's gone. no it's working fine while updating
[10:17] <lw> sky123,yes i can use current account
[10:17] <Hal_> I am running ndiswrapper on a netgear wg111v2, kernel 2.6.x with an AMD 64 processor. Have just recently discovered a very strange issue whereby I can ONLY ping given domains such as google.com, yahoo.com, but domains like msn.com will not work. However, if I try to access google through a browser, it won't return anything. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:18] <XiXaQ> compengi, have you tried synaptic?
[10:18] <Draconicus> Please help me...
[10:18] <lw> sky123 ,but the other account cannot login
[10:18] <winterweaver> Hal_, firewall, mebe?? I dunno... I'm still a bit newbish
[10:18] <sky123> lw: if you say sudo su , then do an adduser...that will manually do it.. but if you look at System tab, and go into users/groups that should be a good place to start ;)
[10:19] <Hal_> The thought had crossed my mind, but where in ubuntu would you configure it?
[10:19] <winterweaver> Hal_, install Firestarter to help with firewall
[10:19] <compengi> XiXaQ, i'm searching now in synaptic for the software but the results always seem to short before i had reinstalled my os =/
[10:19] <winterweaver> Hal_ , Firestarter is in the Package manager :)
[10:19] <Hal_> It's very difficult for me to install anything winterweaver because I have to go back & forth to get all the package dependencies...
[10:20] <sky123> lw: or are you implying that they still cant login after adding them??
[10:20] <Hal_> OK...do you think it has many dependencies?
[10:20] <lw> sky123, i found when i delete this file /etc/network/interfaces , i can login with the other account
[10:20] <sky123> ??
[10:20] <winterweaver> Hal_, cannot remember... I'll check quick
[10:20] <sky123> weird
[10:20] <Draconicus> Craptastic. I forgot my wireless password. I'll have to reset the box.
[10:20] <sky123> lw: over ssh or directly??
[10:21] <lw> directly
[10:21] <winterweaver> Hal_: oooh yeah... quite a bit of dependancies >.<
[10:21] <winterweaver> but if you use the Synaptic Package manager, it should install them all for you
[10:21] <sky123> thats pretty funny...help me configure the wireless...oh i forgot my pass to my ap...
[10:21] <sky123> lol
[10:21] <Hal_> Yes you see that makes it extemely difficult, because depencies have dependencies
[10:21] <Hal_> lol
[10:22] <winterweaver> Hal_: but if you use the Synaptic Package manager, it should install them all for you
[10:22] <Hal_> I spent about 2 hours going back and forth yesterday just to install ndiswrapper...
[10:22] <XiXaQ> compengi, well
[10:22] <winterweaver> Hal_: That's what I did
[10:22] <XiXaQ> compengi, I don't have anything to offer.. I'm sorry. Good luck though.
[10:22] <sky123> Hal_: I feel for you its amazing how many people DONT read the wiki's here or dont even try....
[10:23] <compengi> XiXaQ, search for gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in your synaptic, do you get any results?
[10:23] <Hal_> sky123: Regarding what? I don't even know where to begin.
[10:23] <lw> no solution?
[10:24] <winterweaver> !firewall > Hal_
[10:24] <sky123> Hal_: ndiwrapper....that should be just a simple sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper....
[10:24] <Hal_> Yes but if you'd read my question you would know that I can't just apt-get because my connection isn't working.
[10:24] <sky123> lw: this is very strange...that the network portion would be tied to your login... when trying to login directly....
[10:24] <sky123> lw: "how" did you add the account??
[10:25] <lw> it was created months ago
[10:25] <sky123> lw: need more info as to whether it ever worked before..or...
[10:25] <lw> and my friend have been using that account for a long time
[10:26] <sky123> lw: any work saved in that account ??
[10:26] <Hal_> Thank you winterweaver.
[10:26] <lw> no,
[10:26] <sky123> lw: id also see if /home/thenameof user exists....
[10:26] <sky123> ??
[10:27] <lw> sky123, i deleted it and recreacte it
[10:27] <compengi> Flannel, you there?
[10:27] <lw> and chown
[10:28] <sky123> lw: did that fix the issue or??
[10:28] <Flannel> compengi: pastebin your sources.list
[10:28] <Flannel> !paste
[10:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:28] <lw> sky123, no
[10:28] <sky123> lw: did you do that manually or....use the gui tools??
[10:28] <compengi> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27642/
[10:29] <sky123> split??
[10:29] <lw> i did it using command
[10:29] <sky123> was that a split that just occured or did a bunch of peeps get kicked??
[10:29] <Flannel> compengi: you need to uncomment those lines (remove the #)
[10:29] <lw> because the  User and Group  is not reponding
[10:30] <sky123> lw: Im thinking maybe a  sudo su first. then userdel the username in question...then useradd the user... then passwd the user
[10:30] <sky123> lw: then try again...
[10:30] <compengi> Flannel, all?
[10:30] <porkpie__> Morning guy's ....I am trying to install xen and on reboot I get "error 13 invalid or unsupported format press any key to continue"   ???
[10:31] <sky123> lw:  then you might need to add them to the /etc/sudoers fileto allow them to sudo...
[10:31] <Flannel> compengi: not the bottom ones, just the universe multiverse pair
[10:31] <witless> any idea, off-hand, why my networking should just stop working after a reboot?
[10:31] <sky123> lw: did you try that too already??
[10:31] <compengi> Flannel, paste the new list
[10:31] <lw> sky123, i don't want it to be sudoer
[10:32] <Flannel> compengi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27644/
[10:32] <sky123> lw: then okay...you wont need to do a darn thing with sudoers... just do the other stuff i posted.
[10:32] <sky123> lw: sudo su..then userdel -r homersimpson...then useradd homersimpon
[10:33] <sky123> lw: then passwd homersimpson
[10:33] <sky123> or whatever...:)
[10:33] <dank> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:33] <sky123> !ridlin
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ridlin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <lw> sky123, i m doing it
[10:34] <compengi> Flannel, updating now
[10:37] <S9010_R50B> I've just installed Dapper Server on my box, and it won't boot past GRUB.  it simply reboots every time, back through the bios, loads grub, attempts to boot, fails, restarts.
[10:37] <S9010_R50B> any ideas?
[10:37] <MrHair> help. neither 6.06 nor 6.1rc will even get past the first progress splash screen when trying to boot. VIA motherboard, so i've tried every "acpi=..." that i know of and they all generate kernel panic
[10:38] <sky123> lw: any luck??
[10:38] <MrHair> i could put acpi=martians_have_landed and it would panic
[10:39] <Hal_> I am running Dapper Drake on an AMD 64, I have recently installed ndiswrapper and am using a windows INF driver for a Netgear wg111v2 wireless adaptor. My network access is limited, I receive pings only from select domains, firefox won't work, and nor will gaim, I am completely stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:39] <lw> sky123: i will logout to try
[10:40] <sky123> S9010_R50B: My gues potentially would be a master boot record issue....or....did you add a new device or memory to the box...before you built it???I ran into an issue where i had a nasty irq conflict and things just would boot...started unplugging stuff and voila...
[10:40] <XiXaQ> compengi, yes, it's in the universe
[10:40] <compengi> XiXaQ, but i don't get any result =/
[10:41] <sky123> S9010_R50B: also im not sure..if there is a no-apic option at boot time...that might cause issues????
[10:41] <S9010_R50B> sky123: i've just done a clean install.. no new memory.. but when i installed it,, the bios had mbr protect, on... should i reinstall the whole thing with mbr protect off?
[10:41] <Hal_> !universe
[10:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:41] <sky123> yes
[10:42] <MrHair> btw i have also tried no-apic and no-lapic separately and together
[10:42] <S9010_R50B> sky123, i always thought that what ami bioses call "Chipaware virus" was really more of a throwback, and that clever OSes could get past it anyway..
[10:43] <sasper> hey all. i just installed a fresh version of dapper drake and want to run my LCD monitor at its default resolution. how can i do this? the highest option is 1024x768
[10:43] <sky123> S9010_R50B: on google somewhere...I read this may cause issues...but also on google...if you want to learn a little through linux...there is a way to flush mbr in fdisk through...uhmm..passing a command to /dev/null...Someone correct me on this if im way off...
[10:45] <sky123> sasper: System, Preferences, screen resolution??
[10:46] <sasper> sky123: 1024x768 is the highest available
[10:47] <MrHair> sasper as i said i havent even got the cd to boot but perhaps manual edit your X configuration would do it
[10:48] <sky123> sasper: hmmmm...hang on im looking for a manual way...but the last thing you want is to F up the X window session... its bitch undoing it..
[10:48] <sky123> MrHair: yep...that was where I was headed..
[10:48] <sasper> do i need to install different nvidia drivers?
[10:48] <MrHair> if u leave the resolutions that work, in place, you can ctrl-alt-+ and -
[10:49] <illuvator> !#beryl
[10:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:50] <sky123> sasper: the /etc/X11/xorg.conf section for "screen" you try to add your entry....and see if it "takes effect"
[10:50] <sasper> i'll work on it. thanks for the advice
[10:50] <sky123> MrHair: right on...good advice...
[10:50] <MrHair> that bot has any info on making a via motherboard like ubuntu? hehe
[10:51] <Hal_> I am running Dapper Drake on an AMD 64, I have recently installed ndiswrapper and am using a windows INF driver for a Netgear wg111v2 wireless adaptor. My network access is limited, I receive pings only from select domains, firefox won't work, and nor will gaim, I am completely stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:51] <MistaED> Hal_: using a 64-bit windoze driver?
[10:51] <sky123> Hal_ : is the network wpa protected?? or what encryption are you using??
[10:51] <Hal_> No protection.
[10:51] <MistaED> nm
[10:52] <MrHair> it doesnt like my other *nix's either but in them i was at least able to kill acpi
[10:52] <Hal_> No it's not a 64 bit windows driver.
[10:53] <MistaED> maybe ndiswrapper can convert 32-bit calls to 64-bit for a 64-bit kernel? *shrugs*
[10:53] <sky123> Hal_: so you have verified that you get a link light or indicator that the wireless is up and running??
[10:53] <Hal_> Well, the activity light on the adaptor blinks once, and once only. But then it receives pings from google and still won't blink.
[10:54] <Hal_> So the wireless should be working...
[10:54] <sky123> Hal_: Im not entirely sure if it will help...but there is "network manager applet" that can be installed to aid with finding the AP/Network in question and connecting...
[10:54] <sky123> Hal_: do you have that installed too??
[10:54] <S9010_R50B> thanks for the help sky123, i'm going to go and reinstall, then try again
[10:55] <Hal_> You mean the gtk interface, where you select etho1, wireless1 etc?
[10:55] <Hal_> I have that.
[10:55] <sky123> S9010_R50B:good luck with that...it will truly be interesting to find out what it is that is causing that....
[10:55] <whyso> if i have a tar.gz, how do i install it?
[10:55] <TheColonial> hi all
[10:56] <Hal_> I looked at a network monitor, and while it pinged a couple of domains, it showed activity on the wireless connection.
[10:56] <sky123> Hal_: its actually a manager...one sec while i find the exact name
[10:56] <TheColonial> i have a question about iwconfig if someone wouldn't mind helping.
[10:56] <TheColonial> for some reason every time i try to use it to configure my interface, it hangs...
[10:56] <Hal_> whyso: in a terminal:
[10:56] <Hal_> tar -zxvf [PACKAGE NAME] 
[10:56] <Hal_> To extract.
[10:56] <TheColonial> and something fundamental happens that stops me from doing various things on the system, so i have to reboot
[10:57] <TheColonial> does anyone have any ideas why this might happen?
[10:57] <sky123> Hal_: its apt-get network-manager....you have ebabled all the additional repositories??
[10:57] <sky123> Hal_: my bad that is  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[10:57] <Hal_> I can't use apt-get sky123, I don't have an internet connection on the box in question.
[10:58] <Hal_> I am windows right now on my GF's computer.
[10:58] <sky123> Hal_: can you ssh in?
[10:58] <Hal_> Furthermore, I already have network-manager.
[10:58] <sky123> ahh.. okay
[10:58] <Hal_> That's exactly what I'm using to connect.
[10:58] <sky123> Hal_: so when you ping google no problem with responses??
[10:58] <Hal_> None at all.
[10:58] <Hal_> BUT!
[10:59] <Hal_> If I try to use google in an explorer, no results.
[10:59] <sky123> Hal_: do you have any weird proxy setting set??
[10:59] <Hal_> It's bizzare, I installed the firestarter package to see if it was a firewall interfering with it, but no such luck.
[10:59] <Hal_> No lol
[10:59] <sky123> Hal_: I should'nthave used weird...i meant any proxy settings...
[10:59] <sky123> lol
[11:00] <Hal_> No I don't use a proxy.
[11:00] <Hal_> And I checked all that in the broswer.
[11:00] <sky123> sky123:<-----thinking........hmmmmmm
[11:00] <Hal_> brower*
[11:00] <Hal_> Yeh it's got me stumped too.
[11:01] <sky123> Hal_: so pinging sites like yahoo, etc all work...in the terminal then...
[11:01] <Hal_> All I can guess is that it's just a DUD windows driver that ndiswrapper can't use, or that my wireless router is having trouble.
[11:01] <Hal_> Yes.
[11:01] <Hal_> But msn.com won't work.
[11:01] <Hal_> LOL ironically
[11:01] <sky123> MSN doesnt work period....
[11:01] <sky123> lol
[11:01] <Hal_> Hey, lets not start we'll never finish :)
[11:02] <sky123> ;)
[11:02] <whyso> Hal_: thanks!!!
[11:02] <Hal_> Look don't worry. I'll try a different driver or check my router settings. I just pray it's not an issue somewhere else.
[11:02] <lw> i still have the problem
[11:03] <Hal_> cya
[11:03] <sky123> Hal_: im trying to understand the interaction part of why the darn terminal would work....but not the browser...weird..
[11:04] <sky123> lw: same issue...huh...uhmmmm.. hey! try to sudo su with your own account... that will make you root.....then type su <name of user> and see if you can do that..
[11:04] <MrHair> btw whats a good download manager for windows, to download iso's? IE cant do it to save its life
[11:04] <nolimitsoya> someone has got a fu dsn, simple as that :)
[11:05] <nolimitsoya> MrHair, firefox ;)
[11:05] <nolimitsoya> getright works well if you need a full download suite
[11:05] <lw> sky123: i did it but no help
[11:06] <sky123> lw: also as sudo su take a look and tail -f /var/log/messages in another screen and check to see if attempts are logged???
[11:06] <MrHair> nope i dont. well i might at some point but its easier for me just to put files where they should go as i get them than to set up rules in something like that
[11:06] <MrHair> but ty for reminding me i had firefox LOL
[11:07] <MrHair> <-- senile
[11:07] <MrHair> <-- sometimers' disease, sometimes i remember and sometimes i dont
[11:07] <sky123> Hal_: if you are around....wonder if port 80 requests are blocked...
[11:07] <nolimitsoya> getright lets you place files manualy as well, but it gives you the option to add alternate download sources for the same file, resume aborted downloads, open up miltiple connections and so on and so forth
[11:08] <MrHair> i had it like 4 yrs ago when i was trying to put the whole internet on my hd
[11:08] <MrHair> now... the internet IS my hd
[11:09] <patient> Hi mrHair
[11:09] <sky123> MrHair: you and Larry Page would have something in common
[11:09] <MrHair> hi patient
[11:10] <MrHair> lol
[11:10] <rixth> How can I record what is going onscreen? (I alrady know of istanbul)
[11:10] <winterweaver> can some one tell me why I can't make install my nvidia drivers ?
[11:11] <MrHair> im laughing, not because i have any idea who larry page is, but because im relieved im not the only one
[11:11] <sky123> winterweaver: potentially missing the build-essential package??
[11:11] <sky123> !build-essential
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:11] <patient> how do you manage internet with Ubuntu, for I used windows til now.
[11:11] <sky123> !nvidia
[11:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:12] <jordan> saluti
[11:13] <sky123> patient: managing the internet not even our buddy George Bush can do that...but browsing the internet...firefox, epiphany, on of those browsers i guess...
[11:13] <winterweaver> sky123, I installed make, and I've downloaded the NVidia drivers
[11:13] <MrHair> patient if you are directing that at me, i am the wrong one to ask, i am here because i cant even get the install cd to boot
[11:13] <winterweaver> sky123, but I get this message: Makefile:17: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[11:13] <jordan> no spike english
[11:13] <MrHair> i'm about ready to give my computer a whole different knid of boot
[11:14] <sky123> winterweaver: and you got the kernel-headers, etc necessary...i think the build-essential will do that... are you also doing this as "sudo su" /?
[11:14] <Draconicus> I'm having trouble with a wireless card. I can configure it with various tools, but ifup doesn't see its interface. The network has been detected, but I can't connect to it. Any ideas?
[11:14] <jordan> im french
[11:15] <winterweaver> sky123, kk I'll try
[11:15] <mohamed> can anyone help me with UBUNTU software installations
[11:15] <mohamed> its starting to REALLY REALLY annoy me. and i would like to get into open source
[11:15] <mohamed> ] ???
[11:15] <sky123> what part of install???
[11:15] <jordan> salut
[11:15] <mohamed> well these are the following applications
[11:16] <mohamed> GNUCASH
[11:16] <jordan> non
[11:16] <mohamed> MPG123
[11:16] <jordan> thrhyzbt4
[11:16] <mohamed> thats about it
[11:16] <jordan> frensh
[11:16] <sky123> mohamed: i think...that a good start enabling some of the repositories..is a start...then I can try to help with the others...
[11:17] <sky123> mohamed: do you have that already done??
[11:17] <jordan> hte
[11:17] <mohamed> :) ok thats the prob im still new to linux
[11:17] <mohamed> ive been reading quite bit
[11:17] <mohamed> and so forht, it interests me, but i got no clue where to begin
[11:17] <jordan> its a racing
[11:17] <mohamed> i mainly use my pc for office applicaitons
[11:17] <mohamed> so i need to install gnucash as an accounting package
[11:18] <mohamed> help would greatly be appreciated
[11:18] <jordan> yes
[11:18] <sky123> mohamed: System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager
[11:18] <peeps> anyone know a livecd that is quick to boot?  even if it just goes to console?
[11:18] <peeps> for just a basic sort of rescue cd
[11:19] <jordan> ps3
[11:19] <sky123> mohamed: then there is a settings..tab then repositories..and activate those..and follow directions...
[11:19] <sky123> mohamed: then do a search for the packages in question... and it shoud be good
[11:19] <mohamed> is that in ADD NEW PROGRAMS ??
[11:19] <jordan>  no conpri
[11:19] <jordan> gtuggyggu yufdtrszrh544354
[11:20] <sky123> mohamed:nope...the System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager....then settings
[11:20] <Draconicus> I'm shocked that nobody in here knows wireless.
[11:20] <mohamed> IM STILL SHOCKED im finding this ubuntu so hard to use
[11:20] <mohamed> :(
[11:21] <sky123> Draconicus: what was the q??
[11:21] <Draconicus> mohamed: Ubuntu is not for people not willing to listen and learn.
[11:21] <compengi> how do i install application .bin?
[11:21] <sky123> mohamed: did you find it??
[11:21] <compengi> Flannel, btw it worked thank you
[11:22] <Draconicus> sky123: ifup doesn't see my wirless interface, but ifconfig and iwconfig do. I need ifup to see it or I can't use it. Can you help me?
[11:22] <mohamed> sky123, : :( no im completely lost in ubuntu
[11:22] <mohamed> the only things i found was firefox, and xchat and the usual stuff it installs with
[11:22] <sky123> mohamed: you have the System on top of the screen right??
[11:23] <mohamed> yes
[11:23] <sky123> click it
[11:23] <quandar> Woah, this is weird, opera and firefox are defaulting to all caps for displaying text...
[11:23] <mohamed> ok it then says preferences and so forth
[11:23] <Rookie_> !vectorlinux
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vectorlinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <drbashir> I've connected my IDE cable to my Primary slave drive after fully booted up, can I somehow make Ubuntu detect the disk?
[11:23] <Draconicus> quandar: That certainly is odd. Did you change any fonts recently?
[11:23] <sky123> mohamed: right...click on administration
[11:23] <quandar> not any of the ones firefox uses
[11:24] <sky123> mohamed: then synaptic package manager
[11:24] <mohamed> ok i found synaptic now what ...
[11:24] <sky123> mohamed: it will prompt you for your password
[11:24] <Draconicus> quandar: Are you sure about that? Firefox will use your system-wide fonts.
[11:24] <mohamed> ok i entered my password
[11:24] <sky123> mohamed: then setting
[11:24] <quandar> Draconicus: I will make sure
[11:24] <mohamed> ok settings...
[11:24] <sky123> Draconicus: one sec..
[11:24] <mohamed> it brings up another menue
[11:25] <sky123> then repositories..
[11:25] <sky123> check em all
[11:25] <mohamed> click and add all
[11:26] <mohamed> ?
[11:26] <sky123> mohamed: then yep
[11:26] <webben> quandar: what happens with IE?
[11:26] <quandar> webben: you mean through wine
[11:26] <mohamed> ok one second
[11:26] <sky123> mohamed: then close.. it will prompt you for the next step
[11:26] <webben> quandar: ah, sorry, thought i was in a different channel for a moment
[11:26] <mohamed> once i click them what button to i click AUTHENTICATE OR ADD
[11:26] <mohamed> ?
[11:26] <MrHair> well i dont feel so bad now... at least one post per page on the forums has someone who is hanging at install, and on various machines too
[11:26] <quandar> webben: hehe no problem
[11:27] <webben> quandar: is everything in the same font on the pages or are they all caps in multiple fonts?
[11:27] <sky123> mohamed: just add then close when you have the repos all checked...
[11:28] <quandar> webben: I have noticed that bolded and italics are not all caps, however normal text is
[11:28] <mohamed> ok its downloading stuff
[11:28] <mohamed> ?
[11:28] <mohamed> now what
[11:28] <drbashir> When I add my other harddrive to Primary slave, GRUB starts to complain in stage 1.5 about error 22
[11:29] <drbashir> When I do not connect it, there is no problem...
[11:29] <sky123> mohamed: now if you do a "search" for gnucash...it should find it
[11:29] <mohamed> ok one drv
[11:29] <sky123> mohamed: then check box it
[11:30] <sky123> mohamed: mark it for install
[11:30] <mohamed> WOW IT FOUND IT
[11:30] <drbashir> gnucash really that good?
[11:30] <sky123> yep
[11:30] <sky123> brbashir: not sure...my wife owns my money...lol
[11:31] <MrHair> hahahah i could almost see mohamed jump a little in his chair
[11:31] <mohamed> sky123 : im curious will this be done for any other software i want to install on ubuntu
[11:31] <mohamed> ?
[11:31] <drbashir> lol :P
[11:31] <sky123> yes
[11:31] <drbashir> Holy crap, it depends on ALOT
[11:31] <mohamed> say for example i find an mp3 player is this the same procedure i need to follo
[11:31] <webben> quandar: and this is on all web pages?
[11:32] <MrHair> sky you could always manage the money from a monopoly game with it
[11:32] <sky123> well here is the deal guys...you can go searching via source for all of this stuff and resolve all the dependencies your self OR...have apt or synaptics do it...take your pic...
[11:32] <sky123> :)
[11:32] <webben> quandar: could you put up a screenshot?
[11:32] <mohamed> ok sky123: say i want tetris the game do i search it in synaptic
[11:32] <mohamed> ?
[11:33] <sky123> mohamed: the equivalent of it...i forget what the heck its called..my wife plays it like all day long...one sec
[11:33] <mohamed> ok
[11:33] <j`ey> to get universe packages, do I just need to uncomment the two lines in etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:33] <webben> mohamed: tetris is installed by default
[11:33] <j`ey> i cant seem to apt-get install darcs
[11:34] <webben> mohamed: go to the applications menu, then games, then "gnometris"
[11:34] <mohamed> yeah i no, im generalising sky123
[11:34] <mohamed> i used that as an example.  what i discovered yestereday was that there are a wealth of games and so forth online for download
[11:34] <mohamed> now my million dollar question is
[11:34] <mohamed> if i download the tar files and save it to a stiffy
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: yes, generally you search in synaptic for your first port of call (or an Edgy you can also use Add/Remove programs at the bottom of the Applications menu)
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: then you'd have some tar files or a stiffy
[11:35] <sky123> mohamed: take a look at j`ey's comment that is yet another way.. to do it.. is to maually " uncomment the /etc/apt/sources.list file...as sudo and that will have done essentially what you did via synaptics.
[11:35] <mohamed> how would i install that file from there
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: you'd need to compile it for the system you were running it on
[11:35] <sky123> mohamed: if you want to be super agile...learn how to use apt via command line as well.
[11:35] <MrHair> why is it, the busier i am, the more my cats love me
[11:35] <webben> mohamed: then you could run it on the system when the disk is mounted
[11:35] <sky123> mohamed: it will really make you understand how debs, dpkg and apt work
[11:36] <zen2> MrHair thats cos they see you as stressed
[11:36] <webben> MrHair: Because the busier you are the less attention you are paying to /them/, And /that/, my friend, is your job in life.
[11:36] <zen2> what else is a cat for
[11:36] <sky123> MrHair: I have one too...their cute though...and its unconditional love...:)
[11:36] <mohamed> now yestereday from command line and lot of reading i was ablke to compile gnucash
[11:36] <mohamed> but then it kicked some errors and so forht that annoyed me
[11:36] <mohamed> cause i didn no how to go roun dit
[11:37] <webben> mohamed: Why didn't you just use the packaged version?
[11:37] <MrHair> yep it is, but, cant they love me beside me as well as trying to weasel under my elbow when im typing? lol
[11:37] <mohamed> from where
[11:37] <mohamed> ?
[11:37] <mohamed> webben : From which site do i get the packaged
[11:37] <centyx> hi.
[11:37] <Mohammed> hey guys!
[11:38] <webben> mohamed: it's not in Add/Remove Programs?
[11:38] <mohamed> sky123: :) ok it installed everything, by the looks of it
[11:38] <rixth> With a VNC server, how can I _NOT_ create a new display, what if i want it to attach to localhost:0, instead of making localhost:1
[11:38] <sky123> mohamed: the equivalent would be to open a terminal and type " sudo apt-get install ksirtet
[11:38] <mohamed> but where or how do i run the program
[11:38] <sky123> without that first quote
[11:38] <Mohammed> how's the desktop live cd compared to alternate cd for installation ?
[11:38] <webben> mohamed: Applications -> Add/Remove Programs -> search for "gnucash" -> tick it -> install
[11:38] <sky123> terminal window
[11:38] <webben> mohamed: it should put itself somewhere in the Applications menu
[11:39] <sky123> webben: yep hes been through that...lol
[11:39] <webben> it didn't work?
[11:39] <sky123> yes it worked..
[11:39] <sky123> webben: now learning about apt
[11:39] <sky123> :)
[11:39] <webben> Oh okay.
[11:39] <sky123> ;)
[11:39] <mohamed> ok i click now on add applications and nothing happens
[11:39] <webben> Mohammed: apt and Add/Remove and Synaptic all deal with packages
[11:40] <drbashir> What is the command line to search for *.qif files in /media/QUICKEN BKP?
[11:40] <webben> "packages" because they are software specifically packaged for Ubuntu
[11:40] <drbashir> and sub-directories
[11:40] <sky123> right
[11:40] <centyx> drbashir: find /media/QUICKEN -iname "*.qif"
[11:40] <MrHair> rixth i did that ages ago, lemme think a bit and i might remember how i did it, as a starter have a look at the starting script and at the relevant .vncserver file
[11:41] <mohamed> webben : i goto applications > then i click ADD APPLICATIONS, AND nothing happens
[11:41] <webben> mohamed: packages come in two forms: compiled binaries (*.deb files) and source packages (which you don't need to worry about)
[11:41] <rixth> MrHair, so it is doable? I'm using tight vnc
[11:41] <sky123> webben: I did have the roughest time getting the openldap to work with TLS though...actually had to get it all from source with bdb....what biatccch
[11:41] <webben> mohamed: is Add/Remove already open (look at  the taskbar at the bottom)
[11:41] <sky123> webben: finally worked after 12 hours
[11:42] <quandar> webben: it was a font conflict, had a all caps arial mislabeled
[11:42] <webben> quandar: ah, okay
[11:42] <mohamed> webben : no i dnt think so, on my task bar i see synaptic, xchat and a web browser
[11:42] <webben> mohamed: ah, close synaptic
[11:42] <sky123> yep
[11:43] <webben> mohamed: never run synaptic, Add/Remove... and apt-get at the same time
[11:43] <MrHair> yes i do believe it is but dont shoot me if im wrong. as an alternative i did also once get the windows version to run in wine
[11:43] <sky123> mohamed: looks like you are in good hands :)
[11:43] <centyx> silver bells, silver bells, it's Christmas time in the city
[11:44] <MrHair> wb rixth. yes i do believe it is but dont shoot me if im wrong. as an alternative i did also once get the windows version to run in wine
[11:44] <gnufied> how do i install Linux Programmer's man pages on Ubuntu?
[11:45] <MrHair> and since the windows version doent know from X it shares the whole desktop as it does in windows
[11:45] <webben> mohamed: does Add/Remove work now that you've closed Synaptic?
[11:45] <s4ck3rl> how can i manually check my ext2 filesystem for errors?
[11:45] <sky123> Draconicus: I had this weird issue...but after loading the network-manager package it seemed to resolve my issue....I did have to log out and log back in though to see it in the systray
[11:45] <sky123> fsck??
[11:45] <s4ck3rl> k thx
[11:45] <rixth> MrHair, my issue is that if I have a vncserver running, and I log into it, my settings do not take effect. Like all the window controls are dull & bland. I want to be able to capture the way my desktop LOOKS
[11:46] <sky123> s4ck3rl:  Id heed that warning about the mounted file system though...it looks pretty serious..
[11:46] <eXistenZ> the mplayer plugin for ff is better than totem's. Isn't it
[11:47] <MrHair> oh. well thats just that vnc isnt using the same color depth, that will still be true even if you get it to attach to :0 so, you'll need to change that somewhere as well
[11:47] <sky123> mplayer rocks..worth the effort to get all the w32codecs etc :)
[11:47] <webben> hmmm .... guys, i get a lot of odd descriptions in Add/Remove saying "cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."
[11:47] <webben> (i'm on a pentium-m thinkpad)
[11:47] <webben> so what's that about?
[11:48] <sky123> webben: Im wondering if you need to add the proper kernel version for your laptop and then try again....but thats a guess....
[11:49] <webben> sky123: well i used to add the i686 kernel but that no longer exists (one just uses the main kernel in edgy)
[11:49] <huhmz> Hi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think?
[11:49] <webben> huhmz: i dunno try logging in and starting gdm
[11:49] <sky123> webben: that would be my conjecture then....for some reason the dont know for sure..
[11:49] <Terryble> Hi
[11:50] <MrHair> webben compile one
[11:50] <webben> huhmz: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:50] <huhmz> webben: im running kubuntu and i tried that, it is already running and if i restart it i only get the boot splash
[11:50] <Terryble> How I can to install the kernel source code please?
[11:50] <Rookie_> !kernelsource
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernelsource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <Rookie_> !source
[11:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:50] <webben> MrHair: I'm pretty sure I don't need a custom kernel -- for one thing packages install fine --- and secondly the message makes no sense.
[11:51] <webben> (why would all packages be impossible to install on i386)
[11:51] <centyx> do we discuss edgy in here?
[11:51] <webben> huhmz: then this question probably belongs in #kubuntu
[11:51] <webben> centyx: now, yes
[11:51] <Terryble> is it possible via "apt-get install"?
[11:51] <binfalse1> centyx: no, /join #ubuntu+1
[11:52] <centyx> hm
[11:52] <MrHair> w00t. only 20 mintill my alternative-iso is downloaded
[11:52] <webben> binfalse1: i think #ubuntu+1 is being phased out
[11:52] <binfalse1> oh
[11:52] <abli> Hi! I have a laptop with ubuntu on it and a desktop computer with debian. The desktop has an ADSL connection, and I'm trying to use that connection from the laptop. I have made this work, but somhow it broke. The two computers can ping each other, but dns doesn't work from the laptop
[11:53] <TheColonial> hi again guys, anyone happy to give me a hand with figuring out a iwconfig problem?
[11:53] <MrHair> what nameserver is set in the laptop?
[11:53] <abli> Or more precisely, it works at first, but then breaks. The the computers have fix ips.
[11:53] <binfalse1> abli: is routing and masquerading enabled on the desktop?
[11:53] <abli> MrHair, the desktop is set as the gateway on the laptop
[11:54] <mohamed> ay this add applications story still dont wanna open
[11:54] <abli> binfalse1, yes, I think so. I set that by using the "firestarter" program's gui and setting "enable internet connection sharing"
[11:55] <MrHair> gateway != nameserver necessarily
[11:55] <binfalse1> abli: i don't use firestarter. i set my iptables rules by hand.
[11:55] <abli> MrHair, how can I check what nameserver is used?
[11:56] <abli> binfalse1, Right. I wish I know that much about firewall rules.
[11:56] <binfalse1> abli: on the desktop, what is the output of "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"?
[11:56] <nolimitsoya> abli, thats whats called dns, usualy
[11:56] <nolimitsoya> dns=dynamic name server
[11:56] <abli> binfalse1: 1
[11:56] <binfalse1> abli: okay
[11:57] <binfalse1> abli: and are there any entries in the nat table: sudo iptables -t nat -L -nv   (do not paste multiple lines here)
[11:58] <binfalse1> abli: there should be something in the POSTROUTING chain
[11:58] <abli> binfalse1,  129  5877 MASQUERADE  all  --  *      ppp0    0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0
[11:58] <MrHair> i dont know in the GUI but the file /etc/resolv.conf has your name server(s) listed
[11:59] <binfalse1> abli: okay. can you ping 193.99.144.80 from the notebook?
[11:59] <centyx> hm. funny what a little 'hold' flag on cupsys* can do during a dist-upgrade
[11:59] <centyx> ;-s
[12:00] <centyx> hope this new cupsys client isn't still broken w/ my hp psc 1510
[12:00] <Boypanties> can some one tell me why the add applications in ubuntu wont open
[12:00] <sky123> Akasha: cool name :)
[12:00] <centyx> Boypanties: it's trying to make you cry
[12:00] <centyx> Boypanties: no, sorry, I really don't know
[12:00] <abli> Oh, I think I got it.
[12:01] <Boypanties> lol tell me bout it
[12:01] <binfalse1> abli: only a DNS issue?
[12:01] <centyx> Boypanties: I always use apt-get
[12:01] <abli> The resolv.conf was different on the laptop and on the desktop. Setting the desktops resolv.conf on the laptop appears to fixed it
[12:01] <abli> so yes, it was only DNS.
[12:01] <binfalse1> abli: so it was a DNS setting issue
[12:01] <scompany> Is there a way to capture screen while working on ubuntu?
[12:02] <scompany> Any screen capture application?
[12:02] <sky123> The problem...is many folks are getting used to the gui tools...the art of using apt is lost...kind of sad really.....
[12:02] <abli> scompany, gnome has a screenshot-taker applet
[12:02] <MrHair> i'm glad it fixed it but you need to listen a bit to abli so that you know why it fixed it ;)
[12:02] <binfalse1> abli: thats the normal testing order: 1. ping the gateway, 2. ping an ip adress that is only reachable through the gateway, 3. ping a host name
[12:02] <scompany> Can it capture video, not jut image?
[12:02] <abli> scompany, I also have heard of apps that take a video (but thats a bit complicated)
[12:02] <MrHair> to binfalse i mean lol
[12:03] <scompany> :( I need to capture video...
[12:03] <Mattc> Has someone got  2 mins for some basic questions
[12:03] <defrysk> !ask
[12:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <centyx> Mattc: just ask
[12:03] <Rookie_> !ask
[12:03] <Mattc> THanks
[12:04] <Mattc> I have broken my install trying to install xgl
[12:04] <ubuntu> god mornimg
[12:04] <Mattc> I am trying to edit the gdm files in terminal
[12:04] <scompany> Anyone else.... Is there application that captures screen to video?
[12:04] <Mattc> is it possible
[12:04] <ubuntu> hi bunbun
[12:04] <test2342> I set my screen resolution incorrectly in System->Preferences->Screen Resolution, what text file is that stored in?
[12:04] <abli> scompany, well, a hackers approach is described at http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[12:05] <zyclop> Mattc, define broken
[12:05] <abli> scompany, but I'll see if i can look up something more user-friendly
[12:05] <bun-bun> hello ubuntu
[12:05] <ubuntu> you motherfuking asshole
[12:05] <Mattc> it will no boot up to the graphic interface
[12:05] <bun-bun> ...
[12:05] <ubuntu> sorry
[12:05] <test2342> scompany, pyvnc2swf is good
[12:05] <binfalse1> Mattc: do you have mc installed? (midnight commander)
[12:05] <ubuntu> not to you bunbun
[12:05] <scompany> Ok, thank you abli.
[12:05] <zyclop> Mattc, have you tried xinit?
[12:05] <binfalse1> Mattc: then you can edit mcedit
[12:05] <MrHair> test2342: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[12:05] <scompany> You too, tet2342..
[12:06] <Mattc> is mcedit a terminal program?
[12:06] <binfalse1> Mattc: yes
[12:06] <Mattc> excellent
[12:06] <abli> scompany, Look in the comments section of that page. It mentions gui apps to do it.
[12:06] <scompany> ok
[12:07] <test2342> MrHair, nah, when you use the Gnome UI, it is on a per-user basis.
[12:07] <Mattc> i just typed mcedit into bash and got command not found
[12:07] <test2342> The login screen is the correct resolution
[12:07] <binfalse1> Mattc: sudo apt-get install mc
[12:08] <Mattc> nice
[12:08] <binfalse1> Mattc: good ol' norton commander clone :)
[12:08] <MrHair> ~home/.something i'd guess then, i havent even got the cd to boot lol
[12:10] <Mattc> May be I should not have tried something as complex as installing xgl on my second day at linux
[12:10] <binfalse1> Mattc: you are right
[12:10] <webben> Mattc: most definitely not
[12:10] <MrHair> switch to a vt and dig around in there with the midnight commander, you should have no trouble spotting it, its probably .Xorg.conf or similar in your home dir
[12:10] <test2342> Rephrase: How do I reset the screen resolution when it is set via System->Preferences->Screen Resolution? This is not in xorg.conf, because the login screen is the correct resolution.
[12:11] <Mattc> learning a lot in the process of fixing it though
[12:11] <test2342> MrHair, i'll take a look.
[12:12] <MrHair> switch while not logged in the troubled account tho or it might overwrite your changes on logout
[12:13] <Mattc> is there any problems installing xgl on ubuntu with a radeon 9600
[12:13] <huhmz> Hi guys, i just upgraded to edgy and now after boot i only get to console login prompt, whats up with that ya think, i get no output to the Xorg.log.0 file
[12:13] <not-a-bot> Hey
[12:13] <zyclop> anyone in here have an idea, why xsane and xscanimage keep segfaulting on me?
[12:13] <not-a-bot> Does anyone succesfully use XGL on Edgy?
[12:13] <not-a-bot> Without gnome-settings-daemon crashing?
[12:14] <not-a-bot> It looks like gnome-settings-daemon doesn't work with custom gnome sessions in Edgy
[12:15] <Mattc> what is the terminal switch so you get one page at a time
[12:15] <binfalse1> Mattc: what do you mean?
[12:15] <wickedpuppy> Mattc .. less
[12:16] <zyclop> less filename
[12:16] <binfalse1> Mattc: oh, that is not a switch
[12:16] <binfalse1> Mattc: less is a command
[12:16] <Mattc> I am looking at the --help for mcedit and I get more than one page of text to read so I miss some
[12:16] <binfalse1> Mattc: mcedit --help | less
[12:17] <MrHair> mcedit --help |less
[12:17] <rockstar_> any one here that runs beryl and experiense problems with VLC?
[12:17] <Mattc> thanks
[12:17] <binfalse1> Mattc: if that doesnt help: mcedit --help 2>&1 | less
[12:17] <zyclop> Mattc, you exit with q btw
[12:17] <binfalse1> zyclop: yeah, less newbies need that info :)
[12:18] <MrHair> and for more fun still, mcedit --help 2>&1 > mcedit.txt
[12:18] <zyclop> binfalse1, took me quite some time to figure out :D
[12:18] <test2342> What is the name of the program that runs when you click System->Preferences->Screen Resolution?
[12:18] <MrHair> but make sure youre in your home dir or something
[12:18] <MrHair> then you have all that help captured in a file
[12:19] <binfalse1> MrHair: the order of redirects is wrong then
[12:19] <binfalse1> MrHair: first redirect stdout to a file, then redirect stderr to the (already redirected) stdout
[12:20] <MrHair> binfalse1 if i ever get to have my own company, you want a helpdesk job? lol
[12:21] <binfalse1> MrHair: hehe
[12:24] <cwraig> anyone know anything about what sound engine myth tv uses?
[12:24] <ra21vi> hi ppl
[12:24] <ra21vi> :)
[12:24] <qzn> where is system/administration/discs menu in edgy eft ? on dapper i used it to add second hdd. currently system detects it (in device manager) but i don't know how to mount it.
[12:25] <ra21vi> qzn: u can mount it manually
[12:25] <Mattc> next really basic question whats the reboot terminal command
[12:25] <ra21vi> qzn: look at man fstab
[12:25] <boink> hello
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> Mattc reboot :)
[12:25] <cwraig> mattc sudo init 6
[12:25] <binfalse1> Mattc: sudo reboot
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> do as su
[12:25] <zyclop> Mattc, sudo shutdown -r now
[12:25] <binfalse1> init 6 also works. and shutdown -r now
[12:25] <Mattc> thats a lot of choices
[12:25] <cwraig> mattc sudo init 0 will shutdown
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> reboot is easu to remeber
[12:26] <fourat> wich program does cd burning one Gnome ? i wont use the KDE K3b
[12:26] <cwraig> u can use init to impress your friends with your nerd skill
[12:26] <binfalse1> all will do the same (put init into a different runlevel)
[12:26] <nolimitsoya> fourat, bonfire and graveman fex
[12:26] <cwraig> i didnt know reboot worked :P
[12:26] <zyclop> fourat: nautilus can burn discs
[12:26] <Mattc> nice once again
[12:26] <ra21vi> hey i want to record my XGLs demo.. so is there any tool to direct my video to some other computer, where i can record the screen using some tools
[12:27] <ra21vi> i want to perform here, and record my screen X :0 to some other computer too
[12:27] <ra21vi> i dont wnt to record it on my comp
[12:27] <ra21vi> it will b sl;ow then
[12:27] <ra21vi> any answer??
[12:28] <ra21vi> istanbul desktop session crashes and is not my solution
[12:30] <Mattc> I have ubuntu 6.06 with an ati radeon 9600 card what is the best bet for me to get xgl installed and is there a good step by step guide that you could point me to please
[12:30] <Mattc> no
[12:30] <cwraig> mattc http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:31] <ra21vi> anyone know how to capture desktop session in some video file
[12:31] <ra21vi> ???
[12:31] <cwraig> mattc that has heaps of guides and its on there
[12:31] <ra21vi> *i want to capture my XGL demo in a video file:"
[12:31] <cwraig> ra21vi i know how to do it on windows
[12:31] <Mattc> thanks
[12:31] <ra21vi> cwraig: ok tell me
[12:31] <binfalse1> don't know anything about xgl and it won't run here (my gfx card is not 3d h/w accelerated)
[12:31] <cwraig> a program called camtastia runs on windows
[12:32] <ra21vi> ok, leave XGl, how to do it simply without ny XGL
[12:32] <ra21vi> creyon: is it Opensource/free
[12:32] <Mattc> there are a lot iof guides it seems hoping for one that works I have a look there thanks
[12:32] <ra21vi> is there any Open and Free Window..  i will then install that too
[12:32] <abli> ra21vi, how about using X's network features? the server can run on one computer, the client on the other? or you can hook up a tv-out card to a tv-in card... :)
[12:33] <stiz> 6.10 is looking great
[12:33] <ra21vi> abli: i dont have TV card.... and i just have Nvidia
[12:34] <ra21vi> thats nVidia 6500 turbocache 256mb DDR
[12:35] <ra21vi> it has a DVI out, but dont have any accessory to perform anything with it, and i also dont know what it does
[12:35] <chell> hi
[12:35] <cwraig> ra21vi: dvi is a better quality output to replace that vga out
[12:35] <mdious> stupid question, where can I found information about files with a "~" appended to the end...for example "myfile.txt~"...is this just a temporary file?
[12:36] <qzn> ok, i mounted it, how can i run file browser as root or change permissions any othger way ?
[12:36] <binfalse1> mdious: typically, this is the previous version, backed up by some editor you edited the file with
[12:36] <mdious> qzn> you can change the permissions with chmod and chgrp
[12:37] <stone123> !fonts >stone123
[12:37] <mdious> binfalse1>thanks that is what I thought...but found it very hard to construct my query into a google search :P
[12:37] <dv5000> Is there a good MMORPG for linux?
[12:39] <ccooke> dv5000: "debugging" ;-)
[12:39] <drbashir> What do I do about error 22 in Stage 1.5 in GRUB, after only adding a simple IDE Harddrive to Primary Slave?
[12:39] <ccooke> dv5000: Quite a few MMORPGs will run fine under Cedega or wine
[12:39] <ccooke> dv5000: that's likely to be your best bet
[12:39] <test2342> How do I alow other users to be able to use sudo?
[12:40] <drbashir> !sudo
[12:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:40] <binfalse1> which xorg version is in edgy?
[12:40] <drbashir> !xorg
[12:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:40] <defrysk> 7.1
[12:40] <binfalse1> defrysk: thanks
[12:40] <defrysk> binfalse1, 7.1
[12:40] <sgruber> !wine
[12:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:41] <dv5000> ccooke: hm ok i was hoping there was a MMPROG made and played by the linux community would prolly be fun :)
[12:41] <defrysk> dv5000, planeshift
[12:41] <mdious> drbashir> maybe you need to fix the mbr or something...that is all I know of the error
[12:41] <defrysk> dv5000, tremulous
[12:42] <dv5000> defrysk: are they any good?
[12:42] <huhmz> I just upgraded to edgy and now X doesn't start. I can use neither gdm, kdm or startx. Seems to be related to launchpad.net/bugs/59242. No xserver gets started so not a problem with xorg.conf (no output to Xorg.log.0). Please help im in the console
[12:42] <defrysk> dv5000, tremulous is a fps
[12:43] <defrysk> planeshift is an open source  MMPROG sil under development
[12:43] <defrysk> still
[12:43] <defrysk> planeshift is pretty good
[12:43] <boink> huhmz: you made need to make another xorg.conf
[12:44] <dv5000> defrysk: ok thanks ill check planeshift out first :)
[12:44] <huhmz> boink: didn't you read? no x process even gets started so xorg.conf is not even read
[12:44] <boink> I read
[12:44] <nolimitsoya> huhmz sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:44] <boink> which I find a little rude
[12:44] <drbashir> mdious, thx, but ... I think thats not it because it works fine without the extra disk
[12:44] <huhmz> that is the problem, if it was the config that was the problem i could fix it
[12:45] <huhmz> boink: sorry did not mean to be rude
[12:45] <huhmz> im just very frustrated atm
[12:45] <nolimitsoya> remove xserver and reinstall it then
[12:45] <mdious> drbashir>stupid suggestion...it's all okay in the bios right...everything detected properly as master/slave etc
[12:45] <mdious> drbashir>is anything on the extra disk or is it just an empty?
[12:46] <ClayG> anyone here know of a good laptop mount or gps plug-in for a laptop?
[12:46] <tsoler> hi to all
[12:46] <tsoler> very new to ubuntu
[12:46] <boink> !ask
[12:46] <tsoler> yesterday first trial
[12:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <tsoler> ok
[12:47] <tsoler> install totem plugin
[12:47] <boink> just fire away, tsoler
[12:47] <drbashir> mdious, Its properly detected by the BIOS, and there is 1 NTFS partition on it, but without an OS
[12:47] <godzirra> how do I mount an ntfs partition on the ubuntu-dapper installer disk?  It tells me invalid argument
[12:48] <tsoler> downloaded bad plugin , need to install
[12:48] <boink> on ubuntu, you use the apt-get system to install software
[12:48] <mdious> drbashir>I have no idea, sorry for wasting your time...i can only be a google butler on this one sorry
[12:48] <v3l0ct> godzirra, you mean during installation?
[12:48] <snoops> godzirra sudo mount -t ntfs /device/blah /locationtomountto
[12:49] <tsoler> parenthesis(is there a shortcut for viewing desktop instead of minimazing alla windows?)
[12:49] <drbashir> mdious, I can add it as soon as GRUB has been loaded the menu. Then in windows it will auto-detect it, and I can then use it. Within Ubuntu I've not been able to find out how to detect it
[12:49] <drbashir> mdious, np ;)
[12:49] <boink> snoops: can you read and write to nfts mounts in ubuntu?
[12:49] <mdious> have you tried adding it to /etc/fstab
[12:49] <v3l0ct> tsoler, you have a show desktop icon
[12:49] <snoops> read yes..write is dodgy and not worth trying
[12:49] <snoops> :)
[12:49] <|thunder> !fuse
[12:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:50] <drbashir> mdious, How do I add it?
[12:50] <snoops> however there is a writing driver ntfs-g3 or something like that
[12:50] <boink> ok, ta snoops
[12:50] <snoops> but..experimental..not worh losing data over
[12:50] <mdious> do you know what it is?  for example...hda1,2 3 etc?
[12:50] <v3l0ct> vfat is still better to write to from linux
[12:50] <tsoler> v3loct: wheres that??!
[12:50] <snoops> if you're dual booting with windows, just use the ext3 driver for windows to copy stuff from ntfs to ext3 and vice versa
[12:51] <mdious> check /etc/fstab, first part you put the device (/dev/hda) then a mount point for it, then you can change options as you see fit
[12:51] <godzirra> v3l0ct: Yes, I booted into rescue mode and Ineed to read something off that disk.
[12:51] <v3l0ct> tsoler, bottom left, lower panel
[12:51] <kanotix> hi
[12:51] <Mirro> hey, did sum1 manage to connect SAMSUNG D600 with Ubuntu?
[12:51] <godzirra> snoops: It tells me "no such device" when I do that.
[12:51] <mdious> /dev/hda5       /               reiserfs notail          0       1       are the details for my main partition
[12:51] <godzirra> snoops: and fdisk -l /dev/sda obviously shows me there is such a device :)
[12:51] <mdious> all the best, i'm off.  Catcha Later.
[12:51] <drbashir> mdious, it should probably be hdb1
[12:51] <v3l0ct> godzirra, [06:48]  <snoops> godzirra sudo mount -t ntfs /device/blah /locationtomountto
[12:51] <snoops> godzirra umm.. well /dev/sda is a drive, not a partition.. you can only mount partitions not drives
[12:52] <kanotix> Can anybody direct me to a good samba tutorial? Everything I've looked at confuses the hell out of me.  I just want to share files between my kanotix box and my ubuntu box
[12:52] <stiz> where do i go for feature requests? my request is probably the last thing in world they will do but its worth a shot...., an easy Wine+IE with all plugins and have it render IE windows within firefox (similar to an extension for firefox  on windows that does that), I have got dozens of friends and family (everyday people) to switch over to ubuntu and there biggest hurdle is pages that require IE, specially educational institutions, both my
[12:52] <stiz>  girlfriend and mother are in school (2 different schools) and neither one of them can do there online school work because of this
[12:52] <snoops> kanotix is a linux distro kanotix?
[12:53] <snoops> if so, use nfs instead of samba to share files.. nfs is FAR fasters
[12:53] <godzirra> snoops: I know.  I did: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:53] <snoops> faster*
[12:53] <kanotix> yes snoops
[12:53] <godzirra> snoops: but it says "mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt failed: No such device"
[12:53] <godzirra> fdisk -l /dev/sda obviously shows there -is- such a device though.
[12:53] <kanotix> ok snoops.... does that have a gui frontend?
[12:54] <drbashir> How do I make Ubuntu autodetect new hd* 's?
[12:54] <snoops> godzirra ubuntu uses /media as a mount area.. and create a folder for that within the /media dir to mount to
[12:54] <binfalse1> stiz: schools should be sued for forcing people to use IE..
[12:54] <snoops> then do your mount -t nfs /dev/sdb1 /media/sda1 for example
[12:54] <snoops> -t ntfs* rather
[12:54] <boink> schools should go open source
[12:54] <webben> stiz: sued? sued how?
[12:55] <webben> ;)
[12:56] <kanotix> exit
[12:56] <drbashir> Or does Ubuntu not have that function like windows does?
[12:56] <binfalse1> stiz: may its just a simple browser id check. browser ids can be faked.
[12:56] <stiz> no sh*t, you would think that educational institutions would be the last place this would happen, but its like every school hired idiot web designers, the ones that graduated and couldnt get a real job i guess
[12:56] <stiz> alot of it is special IE plugins
[12:56] <binfalse1> stiz: :(
[12:57] <stiz> active x i think
[12:57] <dv5000> I just downloaded a game but its a .bin how can i install that?
[12:57] <dv5000> !bin
[12:57] <Mirro> did anyone manage to connect SAMSUNG D600 with Ubuntu?
[12:57] <snoops> drbashir not sure what you mean.. if I plug a new hdd in, it's detected next boot.. or do you mean hot swappable/
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <godzirra> snoops: I'm booting from the ubuntu dapper install disk.  DOes that make a difference?  And /mnt exists so I should be able to mount to /mnt.
[12:58] <godzirra> Just because ubuntu puts /media in the fstab shouldnt make a difference. :)
[12:58] <drbashir> snoops, hot swappable, because if I add it before booting/GRUB menu loading, then it gives me error 22 at stage 1.5
[12:58] <dv5000> how can i install a *.bin file?
[12:58] <binfalse1> stiz: if the machine is fast enough, you can install XP in qemu and run IE from there
[12:58] <snoops> drbashir.. right, there's probably a way, not sure of the command..sata hot swappable?
[12:59] <ubuntu> hello
[12:59] <stiz> binfalse1: hmmm ok, let me google that and figure out what that means :)
[12:59] <bent_> When I try to change the volume, it takes about 2 seconds before it actually lowers it. Muting is instantly, though. Why?
[12:59] <kanotix> snoops: What do I have to apt-get install for the most basic sharing?
[12:59] <binfalse1> stiz: qemu is a pc emulator, open source
[12:59] <ubuntu> i have a strange problem
[12:59] <kanotix> snoops: I can't seem to apt-get install nfs
[01:00] <ubuntu> sometimes when i boo into ubuntu 5.10
[01:00] <ubuntu> i try to dial out to my isp
[01:00] <boink> kanotix: for which sharing?
[01:00] <boink> samba?
[01:00] <snoops> godzirra you can mount it whereever.. it has to be a proper place to mount to.. /mnt is not a proper place.. if you create a mount point in the /mnt folder then mount to that.. eg mkdir /mnt/sda1 then mount to /mnt/sda1
[01:00] <boink> do an apt-cache search nfs
[01:00] <ubuntu> (it dials hangs up dials hangs up)
[01:00] <kanotix> boink: I just want to be able to share files between my two linux machines
[01:00] <boink> or an apt-cache search samba
[01:00] <kanotix> boink: and I'm a newbie
[01:00] <stiz> binfalse1: ahh ic, never tried it, i will now, i couldnt get wine to work, im sure i could but i dont have enough time to figure it out
[01:00] <godzirra> Umm, /mnt is just a directory.
[01:00] <godzirra> I should be able to mount it to any directory.
[01:00] <boink> between to linux boxen? use nfs server and nfs client for that
[01:01] <variant> godzirra: correct
[01:01] <dv5000> !binary
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <binfalse1> stiz: wine is a total different approach for running windows programs
[01:01] <kanotix> boink: ok, thanks.  Do I need to apt-get install both on each?
[01:01] <godzirra> snoops: But to humor you I created /mnt/sda1 and it still tells me that mounting /dev/sda1 failed: no such device
[01:01] <boink> well .. try an apt-cache search nfs
[01:01] <snoops> does /dev/sda1 exist?
[01:01] <kanotix> ok
[01:01] <variant> godzirra: is that a usb key?
[01:01] <binfalse1> stiz: qemu emulates the complete hardware (include the cpu) and needs the whole OS installed
[01:01] <ubuntu> is there something wrong with my modem?
[01:02] <godzirra> variant: Nope.  sata drive
[01:02] <godzirra> I can mount /dev/sda2 just fine (linux partition)
[01:02] <godzirra> just sda1 won't mount (its an NTFS partition)
[01:02] <webben> stiz: I'd recommend installing XP in VMWare
[01:02] <variant> godzirra: ok, what does fdisk -l /dev/sda say?
[01:02] <webben> stiz: VMWare server is free and seems to work very well (so far, touch wood)
[01:02] <variant> webben: not free, gratis
[01:02] <binfalse1> webben: well, qemu is free software. vmware is not.
[01:03] <compengi> can i install realplayer on ubuntu?
[01:03] <boink> xen is yet another good one too
[01:03] <Seveas> !realplayer
[01:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:03] <boink> compengi: yes
[01:03] <Pensacola> when's the release for the new version?
[01:03] <webben> variant: free in price (compared to VMWare workstation)
[01:03] <ubuntu> i have an odd modem problem
[01:03] <variant> compengi: yes, but there are codecs that mean you don thave to.. you can use vlc too
[01:03] <YoG> hi, I have a problem with my wlan usb dongle, I looks like after awhile the module crash, anyone knows anything about this?
[01:03] <boink> you need to make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is properly set up
[01:03] <stiz> binfalse1: i can do that (i think) ive had plenty of experience installing windows, lol
[01:03] <binfalse1> webben: yeah. but it taints your system with a nasty kernel module.
[01:03] <variant> compengi: enable universe and multivers repos in sources.list
[01:03] <webben> binfalse1: what's nasty about it?
[01:04] <variant> webben: its proprietry
[01:04] <godzirra> variant: it displays /dev/sda1-/dev/sda3 just fine
[01:04] <ubuntu> please help
[01:04] <webben> variant: so's XP
[01:04] <variant> webben: nice point :)
[01:04] <binfalse1> webben: a closed source kernel module is nasty by default. i mean in kernel space you can do everything.
[01:04] <scompany> Hello again :) Where can I manage startup programs/scripts in ubuntu?
[01:05] <binfalse1> webben: running untrusted code in user space is one thing, but in kernel space its really bad
[01:05] <webben> binfalse1: so you're point is it's potentially insecure because not audited by open source programmers?
[01:05] <YoG> anyone?
[01:05] <binfalse1> webben: right
[01:05] <webben> s/you're/your
[01:05] <ubuntu> ( is it true you have to shut down your pc than turn your modem off then turn it back on?
[01:05] <variant> webben: but xp would be running on top free software, not with vmware though.. it would be part of hte free software systeml...
[01:05] <snoops> kanotix https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[01:05] <drbashir> snoops, Sata is not a command, but also... its IDE...
[01:05] <webben> binfalse1: meh, I'll take that particular risk i think
[01:05] <Seveas> !nfs
[01:05] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:05] <webben> binfalse1: but I take your point
[01:05] <variant> ubotu: to do what?
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about to do what? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <variant> ubuntu: to do what?
[01:05] <scompany> Where can I manage startup programs?
[01:05] <webben> variant: so what?
[01:05] <binfalse1> webben: though i don't believe that there are intentional back doors or something i that module
[01:05] <snoops> drbashir it was a question, not telling you which command to type.. isn't hot swapping ide drives very dodgy?
[01:06] <binfalse1> in*
[01:06] <kanotix> thank you snoops
[01:06] <variant> webben: my point is that, if you really must use non free software you should limmit it to the bare minimum
[01:06] <drbashir> snoops, probably, thats why I want to fix GRUB, not so much get it hot swappable
[01:06] <variant> webben: thats just my policy
[01:06] <variant> godzirra: ok.. is it a ntfs partition?
[01:07] <ubuntu> yep i installed flash player and it says i need to upgrade still???
[01:07] <godzirra> Yes
[01:07] <webben> variant: If you have an ideological commitment to free software, sure. My commitment is more pragmatic tbh.
[01:08] <variant> godzirra: you should be able to mount it then.. odd
[01:08] <godzirra> I agree ;p
[01:08] <variant> webben: less idealogical more practical.
[01:08] <ubuntu> please help!
[01:08] <snoops> drbashir I'm not too sure about what you can do with grub besides reinstalling it, or checking for problems in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:08] <variant> godzirra: what does mount /dev/sda1 /mnt give you again please?
[01:08] <ClayG> in an email header, does anyone know which is the orig senders ip , the top or bottom(if they have multiple received from)??
[01:08] <boink> man update-grub as well
[01:09] <rockstar_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YJbfiZRqWo
[01:09] <compengi> variant, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27657/
[01:09] <drbashir> how do I reinstall it? Does it help that GRUB is probably installed on Sda1?
[01:09] <binfalse1> webben: call it ideological, but preventing some software (or system) going closed source more and more is also a pramatical decision
[01:09] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[01:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:09] <drbashir> actually, my /boot resides in SDA2
[01:09] <variant> compengi: that seems fine
[01:09] <compengi> variant, so?
[01:10] <NetVamp> Got a new problem, I installed Win98 on hda and Ubuntu on hdb, after the installation it asked me if I wanted to install grub into the MRB, I answered with yes and now after rebooting I get the message GRUB loading, please wait ... and nothing happens, no chosing between Win and Ubuntu
[01:10] <godzirra> variant: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 failed:  No such device
[01:10] <variant> compengi: so what?
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> Lexmark X1270m cannot print
[01:10] <compengi> variant, what should i do to install realplayer?
[01:10] <variant> godzirra: does /mnt/sda1 exist?
[01:10] <webben> binfalsel: It can be, but I think variant was couching it in more ideological terms than you were. (I'm not using "ideology" in a derogative sense here... I'd be equally happy with "principled".)
[01:12] <variant> compengi: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29
[01:13] <variant> compengi: remember that realplayer is proprietry software and has had a lot of unfixed vulnerabilities in the past that were quite serious
[01:13] <whyso> compengi: the newer (non legal) version worked, where the older didnt
[01:13] <covOPprometheus> what might be the problem when I can connect to a wlan, receive an ip and access point, but cant set the connection as my default gateway?
[01:13] <whyso> (for me)
[01:14] <variant> covOPprometheus: why can't you??
[01:14] <compengi> variant, sudo apt-get install realplay
[01:14] <compengi> Reading package lists... Done
[01:14] <compengi> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:14] <compengi> E: Couldn't find package realplay
[01:15] <covOPprometheus> variant, well I can, but it's reseted and therefore I can't connect to the internet
[01:15] <whyso> hmmm i installed jdk5, but when im in eclipse it doesnt show it as availible
[01:16] <drbashir> !grub
[01:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:16] <variant> compengi: it tells you how to do it on that site
[01:17] <godzirra> variant: Yes, /mnt/sda1 exists.  Originally I was trying /mnt
[01:17] <godzirra> which also exists.
[01:17] <godzirra> same errror.
[01:17] <Gorth-> Does Ubuntu save a logfile of the installation somewhere?
[01:17] <Ayabara> hi guys. I'm installing (k)ubuntu in a dual boot system today. I have 16GB free. How should I split it between swap, root and home? I have 1GB ram, and I will not be storing any big files (music,video) in my home directory.
[01:17] <variant> covOPprometheus: use route add default gw <gatewayiphere>
[01:17] <compengi> variant, this is the way how they told me to do it =/
[01:17] <variant> covOPprometheus: as root
[01:17] <variant> compengi: it clearly says you need to add an extra repo to get that package. or apt-get install realplayer will give you realplayer 8
[01:18] <whyso> Ayabara: you can skip the swap if you really need to
[01:18] <NetVamp> I installed Ubuntu after I installed Win98, so my MBR shouldnt have been overwritten
[01:18] <variant> compengi: so run apt-get install realplayer
[01:18] <nolimitsoya> Ayabara, 5gb /, as much swap as you need (shouldnt need any if you got enough ram) and the rest for /home
[01:18] <compengi> variant, i did
[01:18] <variant> godzirra: very very odd
[01:18] <variant> compengi: no, you ran apt-get install realplay
[01:18] <covOPprometheus> variant, 'route add default gw <ip>' like this?
[01:18] <variant> covOPprometheus: yep
[01:19] <Ayabara> nolimitsoya: I have 1gb ram. have used 512 swap earlier I think. will 5gb be enough for an install of "everything" ?
[01:19] <covOPprometheus> variant, and you mean the DNS-ip?
[01:19] <whyso> i made the silly mistake of not making a home partition (i was new) so now my entire 320 is in root hehe
[01:19] <variant> Ayabara: 5gb of swap????
[01:19] <variant> Ayabara: if you mean 5gb total space for ubuntu then yeah its enough but its a bit limmited
[01:19] <binfalse1> covOPprometheus: the gateway ip
[01:19] <whyso> and ubuntu set my swap at 7.5 GB, cause i have 3.2 GB ram
[01:20] <variant> whyso: thats rediculous
[01:20] <covOPprometheus> variant, done, but:
[01:20] <Ayabara> variant: hehe. 5gb for root, like nolimitsoya said :-)
[01:20] <variant> Ayabara: ok
[01:20] <covOPprometheus> variant, SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[01:20] <whyso> variant: wonder if i could ever use all that swap :)
[01:20] <variant> covOPprometheus: nice
[01:20] <Ayabara> 512 mb for swap
[01:20] <whyso> its enough to load the os on!
[01:21] <variant> whyso: if you ran a database that was getting ddos'd :)
[01:21] <Ayabara> (not milliByte)
[01:21] <ptl> hello
[01:21] <binfalse1> covOPprometheus: then your gateway ip or the net you put your card in is wrong
[01:21] <ptl> does anyone know how to apt-install mplayer on ubuntu without resorting to the incompatible debian repositories?
[01:21] <bun-bun> !root
[01:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:21] <binfalse1> covOPprometheus: the gateway ip must be in the same network
[01:21] <ptl> I've search on the forums to no avail
[01:21] <nolimitsoya> Ayabara, you could always double it, though i cant see anyone using up more than 5gb in a regular setup
[01:21] <covOPprometheus> variant, hmmm, where can I put the network name in?
[01:21] <whyso> !mplayer
[01:21] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[01:22] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:22] <variant> covOPprometheus: the network name?
[01:22] <bun-bun> how does ubuntu set up the root account?  specifically, does it generate a random password for root per install or is it some obscure password that's fixed?
[01:22] <variant> ptl: apt-get install mplayer works here
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> bun-bun, there is no root
[01:22] <binfalse1> covOPprometheus: no network name. i mean the network ip range
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> only sudo
[01:22] <variant> binfalse1: its a random password
[01:22] <bun-bun> nolimitsoya# sure there is
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> sudo pass is the same as your first user
[01:22] <ptl> variant: on which repositories?
[01:22] <variant> nolimitsoya: there is a root account
[01:22] <kristian> I'm trying to build a .deb package for a library but I end up with a package only containing the /usr/share/PACKAGE/ directory and files. Anyone that can help me?
[01:22] <ptl> universe and multiverse won't help
[01:22] <binfalse1> variant: huh?
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> variant, i know ;)
[01:22] <covOPprometheus> variant, binfalse1, well, I've got no idea, but it works
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> though that info is not usefull
[01:22] <variant> ptl: whatever was default.. i use universe and multiverse
[01:23] <covOPprometheus> variant, binfalse1, YAY!
[01:23] <nolimitsoya> root is not to be used, just sudo
[01:23] <variant> nolimitsoya: it certainly is, seeing as most of the daemons run as user root
[01:23] <Ayabara> nolimitsoya: what about 8GB root, 1GB swap and 7GB home?
[01:23] <bun-bun> nolimitsoya# that wasn't my question.  not a good thing to spread false information
[01:23] <binfalse1> covOPprometheus: you want to learn about ip and routing
[01:23] <ptl> variant: ? :( I use ubuntu dapper. how could it be?
[01:23] <variant> Ayabara: 5gb root 10gb home more like it
[01:23] <covOPprometheus> binfalse1, sure, why not
[01:23] <nolimitsoya> bun-bun, what is you question then? i though you where trying to use a root acount and failed :)
[01:24] <Ayabara> variant: ok. thought you said 5gb was a bit limited?
[01:24] <nolimitsoya> variant, nothing new here ;)
[01:24] <bun-bun> nolimitsoya# i tried to be clear--  how does ubuntu set up the root account?
[01:24] <variant> bun-bun: its a random password
[01:24] <bun-bun> variant# randomly generated for each install then?
[01:24] <variant> bun-bun: if you new it then you could su root wiwth it
[01:24] <variant> bun-bun: yes
[01:25] <binfalse1> covOPprometheus: i cannot answer you in the query, please don't /msg me
[01:25] <variant> bun-bun: if it was the same for every install that would be pretty stupid :)
[01:25] <ptl> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:25] <ptl> deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:25] <ptl> these are my universe and multiverse repositories
[01:25] <bun-bun> variant# well, that's what i was worried about :)
[01:25] <ptl> any other that I should know of?
[01:25] <variant> ptl: ah, your using the unsupported backports. that explains it
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> !wmware > nolimitsoya
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> :/
[01:26] <variant> ptl: yeah, undo anything that was installed via backports and then install mplayer again :P
[01:26] <ptl> variant: how can I undo that?
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> !vmware > nolimitsoya
[01:26] <variant> nolimitsoya: try spelling it right :P
[01:26] <variant> ptl: no idea, i never enabled backports
[01:27] <ptl> well, I'll just remove it and try to install mplayer then
[01:27] <compengi> variant, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27660/
[01:27] <defrysk> variant, used automatix ?
[01:28] <ptl> ok
[01:28] <ptl> next question
[01:28] <defrysk> variant, I misread, sorry
[01:28] <ptl> every time I try to install a new package, aptitude (but not apt-get) tells me that there are a lot of "unused" packages and it will remove them. How can I avoid it? These packages are not unused. I have installed ubuntu and then installed kde via apt-get.
[01:29] <defrysk> a new package = ?
[01:29] <covOPprometheus> binfalse1, k
[01:29] <neenaoffline> I have a Quake 2 CDROM for windows , and I am installing Quake 2 on ubuntu right now
[01:30] <shedi> is there any practical solution to the sound delay problem in flash videos
[01:30] <variant> ptl: i fyou hadent used the backports repo this would probably not have happened.. somone here might help you with it but seeing as backports are unsuported you might not have much luck
[01:30] <neenaoffline> how do I make it use the CDROM for data files ?
[01:30] <tsoler> x
[01:31] <rambo3> ptl you mean obsolete packages
[01:31] <ptl> variant: on the mplayer install howto for ubuntu it says to add backports... that's weird
[01:31] <ptl> variant: look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27661/
[01:31] <ptl> rambo3: I dunno. Are they obsolete?
[01:31] <nolimitsoya> neenaoffline, make i symlink you your <cdrom>/data folder?
[01:32] <ptl> neeja: apt-cdrom -a add
[01:32] <gnomefreak> ptl: can you give me the link that says to add backports
[01:32] <drbashir> How do I erase a CD-RW?
[01:32] <nolimitsoya> drbashir, using you cdrom burning app of coice
[01:32] <rambo3> !info dcraw dapper
[01:32] <ptl> gnomefreak: yes, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061&highlight=mplayer --> "Playing DVDs
[01:32] <ubotu> dcraw: decode raw digital camera images. In component universe, is extra. Version 7.94-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 97 kB, installed size 280 kB
[01:32] <ptl> ------------
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ptl: ty
[01:33] <ptl> To add DVD playback capability to Ubuntu, use your favorite
[01:33] <ptl> text editor and add the "ubuntuforums backports" repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list file if it is not there already.
[01:33] <drbashir> nolimitsoya, I don't think I have one yet...
[01:33] <variant> ptl: you dont need to do that.. i have dvd playback
[01:33] <variant> ptl: you just need dvdread
[01:33] <nolimitsoya> drbashir, then get one. :) k3b is considdered by many to be the best burning app there is
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ptl: that is weird but i will find out if its been added to backports
[01:33] <ptl> ok
[01:33] <tsoler> guys where is my apt-get?
[01:33] <nolimitsoya> sudo apt-get install k3b from terminal
[01:33] <variant> tsoler: its a command
[01:33] <variant> tsoler: you run it (as root)
[01:33] <didlo> can someone tell me how can I install wine ? i mean the steps.. i am newbie
[01:34] <drbashir> nolimitsoya, cheers, will try k3b then :)
[01:34] <ptl> but now I need to get rid of that insistence on removing my KDE packages and remove the backports packages to install mplayer
[01:34] <variant> didlo: apt-get install wine
[01:34] <nolimitsoya> didlo, sudo apt-get install wine
[01:34] <rambo3> didlo, user add/remove to add wine , its there for a reason
[01:34] <didlo> rambo3 ok
[01:34] <didlo> rambo3 let me install first :)
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ptl: i dont see that part but mplayer is in multiverse
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ptl: ah it sasy ubuntuforums-backports
[01:35] <gnomefreak> gnu2it2: thats a 3rd party repo
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ooops
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ptl: its a 3rd party repo and in my opinion should not be used
[01:36] <ptl> gnomefreak: I can't find mplayer on multiverse. I issued an apt-cache policy and I have just noticed that there's only one candidate for mplayer, without the "ubuntu" suffix.
[01:36] <ptl> what is the multiverse repository you use?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ptl: its in multiverse
[01:37] <ptl> I know
[01:37] <gnomefreak> ptl: the repos that end in universe add a space than add multiverse to them
[01:37] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[01:37] <ptl> but it seems that "my" multiverse is not working
[01:37] <S4ck3rl> is there something like base-config in ubuntu dapper because i don't have any idea how to configure the system
[01:37] <ptl> can you grep multiverse /etc/apt/sources.list there? =P
[01:37] <HumanPrototype> how can i set my pc up so that any connections on the eth0 interface are routed to the ath0 interface so other pcs can get on the net?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> ptl: im not talking the one that says dapper-backports
[01:37] <ptl> gnomefreak: ok
[01:37] <nolimitsoya> S4ck3rl, what are you trying to do?
[01:38] <nolimitsoya> HumanPrototype, sudo apt-get install shorewall
[01:38] <nolimitsoya> run it
[01:38] <S4ck3rl> i installed dapper on a software raid
[01:38] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: did you already configure ip addresses for eth0 and ath0?
[01:38] <didlo> variant, done now what can I do ?
[01:38] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya, isnt that a firewall?
[01:38] <S4ck3rl> but now i have an empty fstab
[01:38] <nolimitsoya> HumanPrototype, yes it is, and it will be needed to share an internet connection
[01:38] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, ath0 is on dhcp and im online for it now. eth0 is 192.168.1.100
[01:39] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya, what config do i need to do?
[01:39] <binfalse1> nolimitsoya: shorewall is not needed for ip masquerading
[01:39] <nolimitsoya> HumanPrototype, in order to share an internetconnection you will need a nat service. shorewall will help yopu set one up
[01:39] <HumanPrototype> oh ok
[01:39] <nolimitsoya> binfalse1, no but its easy :)
[01:39] <didlo> guys, I installed wine, what else I have to do ?
[01:40] <nolimitsoya> like suing firestarter instead of manualty editing iptables fex
[01:40] <binfalse1> nolimitsoya: i prefer knowing what i do
[01:40] <nolimitsoya> didlo, type wine <program name> from a console
[01:40] <nolimitsoya> or wine-cfg if you need to configure something
[01:40] <didlo> nolimitsoya a program with .exe ?
[01:40] <nolimitsoya> didlo, yes
[01:41] <didlo> nolimitsoya ok let me download one
[01:41] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya, so how do i set up the nat service
[01:41] <nolimitsoya> didlo, sry, thats winecfg, without the '-', to set up wine
[01:41] <nolimitsoya> HumanPrototype, just follow the wizard
[01:41] <didlo> nolimitsoya ok
[01:42] <compengi> !samba
[01:42] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:42] <nolimitsoya> didlo, though it should not be needen :)
[01:42] <nolimitsoya> *needed
[01:42] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya, how do i start the wizard?
[01:42] <nolimitsoya> run shorewall
[01:42] <ptl> ok
[01:42] <ptl> mplayer comes from debian-multimedia mirrors
[01:42] <ptl> gnomefreak: can you do a 'apt-cache policy mplayer' there and tell me where does your mplayer comes from?
[01:42] <ptl> *come
[01:43] <tsole1> examples of ubuntu apears with a locker, why is that?
[01:43] <didlo> nolimitsoya i tryed to install mirc but i get a error wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\mirc62.exe": Module not found
[01:44] <rag> JosefK: good morning!
[01:44] <nolimitsoya> didlo, not thats its a solution to your problem, but you shouldnt use wine for a task lika irc. sudo apt-get install lostirc will sort you out :)
[01:44] <nolimitsoya> *like
[01:44] <ptl> variant: can you do that too? apt-cache policy mplayer
[01:44] <gnomefreak> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ptl: add that repo to your list
[01:44] <JosefK> rag: thanks, and good morning too :)
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ptl: also add the following
[01:44] <whyso> hmmmmm i uninstalled java1.4 jre and jdk, and installed java5, but STILL when i run java -version it says java 1.4 HELP plz
[01:44] <didlo> nolimitsoya, so i have to instaii mirc with sudo apt-get install mirc ?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[01:45] <ptl> didlo: there's also kvirc, which is very much like mirc
[01:45] <ptl> gnomefreak: ok... I'll try. I was using 'br' and such.
[01:45] <JosefK> whyso: sudo update-alternatives --config java && sudo update-alternatives --config jar
[01:45] <ptl> for my country code
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ptl: you have those repos already
[01:45] <JosefK> whyso: select the Sun JRE in both of those menus
[01:45] <nolimitsoya> didlo, no, you shouldnt use mirc at all. use lostirc, for example. or xchat
[01:45] <nolimitsoya> 'sudo apt-get install lostirc' installs lostirc
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ptl: they just dont have multiverse added to the end
[01:45] <didlo> nolimitsoya yea.. and if I want to use mIRC what i have to type ?
[01:46] <didlo> nolimitsoya I use xchat now
[01:46] <ptl> gnomefreak: ok
[01:46] <whyso> JosefK: wow THANKS :))))
[01:46] <nolimitsoya> didlo, just run mirc.exe from where you installed mirc to
[01:46] <gnomefreak> didlo: you need to run mirc through wine to run it
[01:46] <JosefK> whyso: np's :)
[01:46] <Davidou> hello !
[01:46] <HumanPrototype> nolimitsoya, how do i start the wizard?
[01:47] <thugNA> hi :)
[01:47] <didlo> gnomefreak look what i get: wine mirc62.exe |  wine: creating configuration directory '/home/didlo/.wine'... | wine: '/home/didlo/.wine' created successfully. | wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\mirc62.exe": Module not found
[01:47] <tsole1> hey guys how can i mount my disks?
[01:47] <Haga> Hi, does anyone here know the command to show desktop in the xbindkeys config?
[01:47] <thugNA> could somebody pliz help me ? :)
[01:47] <HumanPrototype> tsole1, mount --help and man mount
[01:47] <Mattc> who knows what the terminal sodu command to launch a file manager
[01:47] <HumanPrototype> thugNA, whats the prob?
[01:48] <HumanPrototype> Mattc, "gksudo nautilus" on gnome
[01:48] <gnomefreak> didlo: sounds like its gonna be alot of work to get it working right
[01:48] <ptl> gnomefreak: thanks! That solved the problem. It seems that the 'br' (Brazil) mirrors were somehow lacking. I've just noticed that there were error messages about Packages.gz not found there.
[01:48] <thugNA> rt61 chipset wifi problem :/
[01:48] <nolimitsoya> didlo, have you downloaded the mirc installer to your /home/'account/ ?
[01:48] <JosefK> Mattc: in gnome, "gksudo nautilus --no-desktop"
[01:48] <Davidou> I have a problem with my swap, under edgy: it isn't mounted automatically when I boot. I have to mount it with GParted ...
[01:48] <Mattc> thanks
[01:48] <didlo> nolimitsoya i downloded in my desktop
[01:48] <nolimitsoya> Davidou, edit you fstab
[01:48] <Davidou> my fstab is very amazing since I upgraded
[01:48] <tsole1> can anyone please tell me
[01:48] <ptl> Davidou: add a line like this to your fstab:
[01:48] <didlo> nolimitsoya i have to download in home/didlo ?
[01:48] <ptl> /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:48] <nolimitsoya> didlo, ok, navigate to you desktop from a console
[01:48] <Davidou> # /dev/hda6 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[01:48] <Davidou> UUID=aa0d5abd-d307-426b-8791-1609f16a4d11 none swap sw 0 0
[01:49] <ptl> huh
[01:49] <nolimitsoya> then run 'wine <name of installer>'
[01:49] <ptl> is this right? UUID?
[01:49] <didlo> nolimitsoya hmm what's the command ?
[01:49] <Davidou> yes
[01:49] <Davidou> all my partition are like this in my fstab... and it works
[01:49] <nolimitsoya> didlo, navigating in console is done using cd. fex, 'cd Desktop' would get you to your desktop folder
[01:49] <Haga> someone know the shell to show desktop??
[01:49] <Seveas> ptl, yes
[01:49] <ptl> What does it refer to? I didn't even know that something that was not a file was eligible to be swap.
[01:49] <Davidou> except for the swap
[01:49] <Seveas> in edgy that is correct
[01:49] <Micksa_> so who's the ubuntu/canonical guy that's working on speeding up the startup process?
[01:49] <didlo> nolimitsoya ok
[01:50] <whyso> so uh, wine is like a virtual machine or something?
[01:50] <JosefK> Micksa: I'm not sure who they are, but it's pretty fast here in Edgy
[01:50] <nolimitsoya> whysp, wine is a caompatibility layer
[01:50] <Micksa> what's been done in edgy?
[01:50] <nolimitsoya> *compatibility
[01:50] <Davidou> SeanTater,
[01:50] <Davidou> oops
[01:50] <nolimitsoya> !wine
[01:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:50] <JosefK> Micksa: I imagine switching to Upstart's helped, I'll try to find a wiki page
[01:50] <whyso> Micksa: i heard it was mostly behind the scenes stuff
[01:50] <ptl> I've seen on the manpage now
[01:50] <ptl> yes... it's possible
[01:50] <ptl> weird! =P
[01:50] <whyso> Micksa: totall retooling of boot sequence
[01:50] <Davidou> Seveas, it doesn't work for the swap...
[01:50] <Micksa> upstart eh
[01:50] <keithhhh> Hey what do you guys use to video conference with mac users??
[01:51] <Haga> !wiki xbindkeys
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki xbindkeys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Haga> :/
[01:51] <Seveas> Davidou, works fine here for swap
[01:51] <Smotang> "What a hideous colour khaki is," remarked Lenina, voicing the hypnopdic    prejudices of her caste.         --- 10 points if someone can guess what that quote is from?
[01:51] <didlo> nolimitsoya done and where can I install ? there is C:\ I type there: /home/didlo ?
[01:51] <Micksa> I'm brainstorming about how the boot process could be made faster
[01:51] <didlo> nolimitsoya or C:\ it's my /home/didlo ?
[01:51] <Davidou> even if i change "UUID=..........." for "/dev/hda6", sudo mount -a doesn't work
[01:51] <Mattc> where are the user directories stored in linux
[01:51] <Smotang> Ack wrong chat
[01:51] <thugNA> if somenone could help me (wifi problem) /j help-a-nb-pliz  ty :/
[01:52] <gnomefreak> Smotang: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[01:52] <Mattc> please
[01:52] <JosefK> Smotang: it sounds like Phillip K. Dick, but I could be wrong
[01:52] <Micksa> and I'm wondering if maybe I've thought of something that hasn't already been thought of :)
[01:52] <Smotang> Yeah sorry josefk
[01:52] <keithhhh> Hey what do you guys use to video conference with mac users??
[01:52] <nolimitsoya> didlo, c: is a folder wine created. install just as if you where running windows
[01:52] <Davidou> Seveas, ok, do you have any idea about the reason it could not work ?
[01:52] <nolimitsoya> didlo, that is 'c:\program files\mirc', or whatever
[01:52] <Seveas> Davidou, swaps aren't mounted
[01:52] <Davidou> ?
[01:52] <Seveas> you don't use mount to enable swap
[01:53] <Davidou> ah, ok
[01:53] <didlo> nolimitsoya i installed in C:\mIRC
[01:53] <Davidou> I can active it with GParted
[01:53] <didlo> nolimitsoya where can I find it ?
[01:53] <nolimitsoya> didlo, thats ok :)
[01:53] <Davidou> (right clik, active the swap partition)
[01:53] <Haga> connect skynet.irc.net
[01:53] <nolimitsoya> didlo, in /home/'your account'/.wine/c:/mirc/
[01:53] <Haga> raaaahh
[01:54] <Davidou> maybe the specified UUID isn't correct ?
[01:54] <didlo> nolimitsoya i have to navigate via console ?
[01:54] <nolimitsoya> didlo, yes
[01:55] <nolimitsoya> or make a shortcut/launcher
[01:55] <Micksa> so the key thing for upstart is, does it facilitate starting multiple startup scripts simultaneously?
[01:55] <thugNA> pliz iwconfig ra0 says im connected but i cant browse the web :/
[01:55] <gnomefreak> thugNA: try another browser
[01:55] <Seveas> Micksa, the key thingis that it doesn't care about that
[01:56] <gnomefreak> thugNA: can you ping a website?
[01:56] <thugNA> no i cant do anything
[01:56] <thugNA> i can just
[01:56] <Micksa> ummokay :)
[01:56] <thugNA> capture
[01:56] <thugNA> :/
[01:56] <Micksa> hey, I have an idea
[01:56] <Micksa> I could, like, TRY EDGY
[01:56] <didlo> nolimitsoya it is drive_c :)
[01:56] <didlo> nolimitsoya not c: :P
[01:56] <nolimitsoya> didlo, :)
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Micksa: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:56] <Micksa> haha
[01:56] <nolimitsoya> memory lapse
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Micksa: this is not the edgy channel for good reason
[01:56] <Ragnaroek> yo
[01:56] <Micksa> was that an automatic response? :)
[01:56] <thugNA> i got rt61 chipset, i compiled a driver (with gcc4 instead of gcc 3.4)
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Micksa: no
[01:57] <didlo> nolimitsoya and to run it ? wine mirc.exe ?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Micksa: i said that and meant it :)
[01:57] <thugNA> could it be the problem ?
[01:57] <didlo> nolimitsoya i am in that dir where mIRC.exe is
[01:57] <nolimitsoya> didlo, correct
[01:59] <didlo> nolimitsoya thank you
[01:59] <ironcladlou> My Belkin Wireless G PCMCIA card appears in lspci and during Kubuntu 6.10rc install, but is not visible to ifconfig, iwconfig, the network control panel, or KNetworkManager. It worked fine in 6.06. A friend of mine having the same issue with Ubuntu, which is why I'm here. Nobody knew anything about it in #kubuntu. Ideas?
[02:00] <thugNA> it depends of the chipset :/
[02:00] <nolimitsoya> didlo, but as i said, this will eat up system resources and just add extra work and headache. use lostirc if you want a mirc-like irc client
[02:00] <magicmike> Also is there a channel that specializes in just networking issues?
[02:00] <didlo> nolimitsoya it sux :) how i remove it ?
[02:00] <nolimitsoya> didlo, what sux?
[02:01] <didlo> nolimitsoya mIRC in linux
[02:01] <nolimitsoya> yes, i told you ;)
[02:01] <JosefK> ironcladlou: 'sudo aptitude install linux-generic'
[02:01] <JosefK> ironcladlou: you may not have the restricted NIC modules installed
[02:01] <didlo> nolimitsoya to remove it rm -rf entire dir where mIRC is ?
[02:01] <nolimitsoya> didlo, wine has an add/remove tool :)
[02:01] <nolimitsoya> use it
[02:01] <nolimitsoya> as i said, its just extra work using wine, if there are naitive tools for the job
[02:02] <ironcladlou> JosefK: it's installing now.
[02:02] <ironcladlou> JosefK: would a reboot be prudent when it's done?
[02:02] <Ambimom> xchat works better than mirc anyway...
[02:02] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[02:02] <JosefK> ironcladlou: I think you can just modprobe the module, but a reboot may be prudent
[02:02] <hoelk> i really can recommend xchat
[02:02] <Ambimom> hoelk:  me too I was using mirc with wine and it sucked
[02:02] <ironcladlou> JosefK: i'll try a modprobe first, just in case it works :D
[02:03] <ironcladlou> JosefK: but... modprobe which module?
[02:03] <hoelk> i was  using mirc under windows and its a quite cool client, but xchat is great also
[02:03] <Ambimom> anyone know why I can't erase cds and dvds?  burning is fine
[02:03] <JosefK> ironcladlou: I haven't a clue, whichever your NIC uses (google may help)
[02:03] <didlo> nolimitsoya i have to find "wine" in add/remove applications ?
[02:03] <ironcladlou> JosefK: I know it's an atheros chipset. maybe i'll just reboot
[02:03] <iturk> hi there i am trying to run cube game. An FPS. I have a simple Sis graphic card. I have installed the OpenGL libraries. When i try to run the game in fullscreen or in a window i cannot see any image on them. On window i only get this error "open /dev/sequencer: No such device" on Fullscreen i am getting http://pastebin.ca/213416 !! What can be the problem ??
[02:03] <magicmike> Yo ironclad: What'd you get.
[02:03] <nolimitsoya> didlo, no you have to run the wine equivalent of the windows add/remove software-tool :)
[02:04] <nolimitsoya> for which, i dont remember the command ;)
[02:04] <ironcladlou> magicmike: PMing you
[02:04] <nolimitsoya> man wine <- read and be edcated
[02:04] <nolimitsoya> *educated
[02:04] <magicmike> No prob.
[02:04] <didlo> nolimitsoya can you give me more details please ?
[02:04] <nolimitsoya> the next time someone sais somethingis a bad idea, just think one extra time ;)
[02:04] <Rookie_> man and apropos, best commands
[02:05] <ironcladlou> magicmike: rebooting now
[02:05] <ironcladlou> brb
[02:05] <thugNA> pliz where could i find help about dapper and ralink chipset ?
[02:05] <Seveas> !wifi > thugNA
[02:05] <didlo> nolimitsoya i have to remove wine or mIRC now ?
[02:05] <Rookie_> !libxine-extracodecs
[02:05] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[02:06] <Ambimom> didlo:  removing mirc is just sending it too trash
[02:07] <didlo> Ambimom i want to remove the whole wine
[02:07] <didlo> and I don't know how...
[02:07] <didlo> Ambimom even mIRC
[02:07] <Ambimom> didlo:  did you try add remove or synaptic package manager?'
[02:08] <Ambimom> didlo:  search for wine in synaptic and mark for uninstallation
[02:08] <didlo> Ambimom and if I uninstall wine it will remove mIRC too ?
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> didlo, sudo apt-get remove wine
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> it will nuke everything exept .wine in your home
[02:08] <Ambimom> didlo: mirc isn't really installed....just send it to trash
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> delete that manualy afterwards
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> Ambimom, wrong :)
[02:09] <nolimitsoya> it it installed
[02:09] <Ambimom> if you remove mirc...since it is exe program...it will be gone
[02:09] <Ambimom> mirc can't work without wine
[02:09] <nolimitsoya> it will still be installed in wine, just as if you remove .exe in a windows enviroment
[02:09] <Ambimom> but he's removing wine
[02:10] <Ambimom> duh
[02:10] <nolimitsoya> sorry :)
[02:10] <Ambimom> after he removes wine, mirc will be there, but it isn't installed
[02:10] <didlo> nolimitsoya i removed wine, now i have to navigate in that dir where is mIRC and to rm -rf ?
[02:10] <nolimitsoya> didlo, no
[02:10] <nolimitsoya> just go to your home and do rm -f .wine
[02:11] <variant> didlo: rm -rf *.wine
[02:11] <variant> oops
[02:11] <variant> didlo: dont run that
[02:11] <defrysk> rf indeed
[02:11] <variant> didlo: what i said
[02:11] <Ambimom> didlo:  just remove mirc...send it to trash
[02:11] <didlo> hmm
[02:11] <nolimitsoya> Ambimom, but that wond delete wine configuration ;)
[02:11] <Ambimom> nolimitsoya:  didlo has already removed wine
[02:11] <defrysk> rm -rf .wine
[02:11] <nolimitsoya> Ambimom, .wine is not wine
[02:11] <ironcladlou> well i'll be damned. it worked.
[02:11] <ironcladlou> JosefK: it worked!
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> .wine is a directory that contains all the configurations and installed programs
[02:12] <ironcladlou> magicmike: are you trying this?
[02:12] <JosefK> ironcladlou: :) hf
[02:12] <Ambimom> but if you remove it through synaptic...for all intents and purposes ... it's gone
[02:12] <didlo> so i have to naviagate in my /home dir and rm -rf .wine ?
[02:12] <keithhhh> anyone running Mac Dashboard widgets in Ubuntu??
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> Ambimom, no it isnt ;)
[02:12] <ironcladlou> JosefK: thanks so much. i'll post these findings on my forum thread
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> as i have said a nomber of times now...
[02:12] <variant> didlo: thats just hte config files and installed iwndows applications.. the acual wine appliatoin is gone with apt-get reomove wine
[02:12] <nolimitsoya> *u
[02:13] <Ambimom> thank you variant!
[02:13] <didlo> variant i want to remove all programs/files contains wine even mIRC.
[02:13] <didlo> sorry for my english
[02:13] <defrysk> didlo, rm -rf .wine
[02:13] <variant> didlo: fine run "rm -rf ~/wine
[02:13] <variant> didlo: fine run "rm -rf ~/wine"
[02:13] <Ambimom> and I want to erase files..LOL
[02:14] <anon32> how is there a universe security update repos?
[02:14] <ptl> it's rm -rf ~/.wine
[02:14] <variant> didlo: fine run "rm -rf ~/.wine" i mean
[02:14] <JosefK> ironcladlou: np's - and thanks, hopefully that thread'll show up in google for people
[02:14] <anon32> that sounds like an oxymoron
[02:14] <nolimitsoya> didlo, as i have said so many times that im getting tired, .wine i your home, and apt-get remove wine will take care of it
[02:14] <variant> nolimitsoya: go get a bottle of wine and chill :)
[02:15] <didlo> nolimitsoya ok but I have mIRC installed in /home/didlo/.wine/drive_c/mIRC
[02:15] <didlo> it's there
[02:15] <variant> didlo: so rm -rf ~/.wine (as user not with root or sudo) will delet that
[02:15] <anon32> didlo, too bad
[02:16] <magicmike> I tried aironcladlou: I get couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-generic" when I try.
[02:16] <nolimitsoya> variant, sorry, its just frustrating first helping someone for 20min getting things working, constantly advising him to use naitive software instead, and the minute he gets it working he decides it "sux" and want to remove it, then it turns into a huge fuzz
[02:16] <variant> lol
[02:16] <variant> didlo: yeah, use irssi or xchat or one of the many other programs
[02:16] <variant> didlo: not smegging mirc
[02:16] <magicmike> LOL YEa, makes you want to puke, huh? LOL
[02:18] <ironcladlou> magicmike: it worked fine for me from a stock install after an apt-get update
[02:18] <didlo> nolimitsoya sorry... ;(
[02:19] <soon> Hi folks - how do I install a 32 bit version of libncurses on a 64 version af ubuntu?
[02:20] <variant> soon: in a 32bit chroot
[02:20] <binfalse1> IMHO, wine is bad for linux actually. i prevents users from focusing on native linux software.
[02:20] <Rookie_> cant mix 32bit with 64bit, atleast i dont think so
[02:20] <binfalse1> *it
[02:20] <variant> binfalse1: nah, it provideds a way for windows software developers to port apps to gnu/unix
[02:20] <soon> variant: you'll have to explain that - a 32 bit chroot?
[02:20] <variant> soon: you can do it in a chroot, yeah ok. i exploain :)
[02:21] <fraco> anybody happen to know how i can find out which process is using the alsa library
[02:21] <variant> soon: its a little complicated depending on your experiance
[02:21] <soon> I'm not newbie - not expert ...
[02:21] <compengi> what is the quivalent program to limewire?
[02:21] <binfalse1> variant: yeah, but if someone says "no need for a native app, i can use wine+bla instead", native linux apps will be developed slower
[02:21] <davvs> where do i set default encryption key and ssid for the wlan?
[02:21] <timwizzy> isnt limewire full of spyware?
[02:22] <variant> timwizzy: nope
[02:22] <timwizzy> i use emule
[02:22] <davvs> variant :-D
[02:22] <defrysk> timwizzy, try frostwire
[02:22] <Gasten> timwizzy: just windows-spywares.
[02:22] <variant> timwizzy: take a look at it your self, the source code is there for anyone to see
[02:22] <timwizzy> lol
[02:22] <variant> davvs: yo!
[02:22] <binfalse1> variant: and many newbies will say that, not knowing the difference between native apps and win32 apps running in wine
[02:22] <variant> davvs: I got internet at home!
[02:22] <magicmike> My Texas Instruments ACX 100 22mbps appears in lspci as an unknown device. It worked fine until I did the updates. It is not visible to ifconfig, iwconfig, the network control panel, or KNetworkManager. Any solutions?
[02:23] <timwizzy> this is my first time using ubuntu
[02:23] <timwizzy> just installed 6.06 desktop
[02:23] <timwizzy> and installing server on another compuiter now
[02:23] <soon> I'm trying to install statistical software suite called STATA - it relies on libncurses. I have libncurses 5.5 installed and I actually find it in two dir's: /lib and /lib64 ... the STATA helpline suggest I might need the 32 bit version (in /lib32 i suspect) ...
[02:23] <Gasten> timwizzy: then you have to upgrade soon :D
[02:23] <variant> soon: ok, here is a document that explains it in simple steps
[02:23] <variant> soon: http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD64
[02:24] <Rookie_> why does anyone _have_ to upgrade?
[02:24] <soon> thanks !
[02:24] <Gasten> timwizzy: official Edgy Elk is out the 26.
[02:24] <variant> soon: as you can see, its a lengthy process
[02:24] <anon32> !schedule
[02:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:24] <variant> Gasten: edgy eft
[02:24] <timwizzy> oh really
[02:24] <defrysk> well dapper is lts so for servers I would go for dapper
[02:24] <timwizzy> i can just type apt-get upgrade dist or something can i?
[02:24] <Gasten> variant: ah... what's an eft?
[02:24] <ironcladlou> magicmike: were you not able to do install linux-generic?
[02:24] <timwizzy> yheah i liek lts concept
[02:24] <magicmike> No I told you what output I got.
[02:24] <defrysk> timwizzy, for your server dapper is best choice
[02:25] <timwizzy> i agree
[02:25] <Gasten> timwizzy: you type sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, asafik.
[02:25] <magicmike> Couldn't find package linux-generic
[02:25] <soon> wauv variant .. that is lengthy .. do you think I could just download the libraries manually and place them in /lib32 ... I could try that at least :-)
[02:25] <defrysk> desktop is whatever you prefer
[02:25] <variant> timwizzy: change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:25] <anon32> err, if I upgrade to a new release (such as edgy) when I have a 686 kernel, will it revert to a 386 one?
[02:25] <timwizzy> I'm just doing this to learn how to set up a httpd and maybe a email server
[02:25] <variant> soon: dunno, try it
[02:26] <timwizzy> but just being able to logon to ssh is proving to be dificult lol
[02:26] <binfalse1> timwizzy: really?
[02:26] <variant> timwizzy: whats the problem your having with ssh?
[02:26] <binfalse1> timwizzy: what the problem with ssh?
[02:26] <timwizzy> well i think it was the other computer i was working on, i've build another machine to work on now
[02:26] <timwizzy> is sshd installed by default anyways?
[02:26] <variant> timwizzy: no
[02:26] <binfalse1> timwizzy: nope
[02:27] <variant> timwizzy: maybe on the server install.. not sure
[02:27] <Gasten> it isnt??
[02:27] <timwizzy> oh well thats probably why...
[02:27] <timwizzy> i read no ports are open by default
[02:27] <variant> Gasten: not on deskktop version no
[02:27] <Gasten> then why do I have it?
[02:27] <binfalse1> timwizzy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:27] <Gasten> I can't recall installing it!
[02:27] <variant> timwizzy: all ports are open by default.. there is no firewall by default
[02:27] <timwizzy> its installing the software now "Select and Install Software" step
[02:27] <variant> Gasten: it was probably a dependancy of some other program
[02:27] <Gasten> variant: hm...
[02:27] <binfalse1> Gasten: maybe you installed some metapackage that has sshd as a dependency
[02:27] <whyso> ummm i have a WARNING: Azureus did not shut down tidly java message SUCK in the bottom right corner of my screen, and it wont go away!
[02:28] <variant> timwizzy: there are not network aware services by default afaik
[02:28] <taillo> hello
[02:28] <timwizzy> but do i have to install openssh-server manually tho
[02:28] <whyso> taillo: hello
[02:28] <variant> whyso: run xkill and click the thing that wont go away
[02:28] <taillo> je cherche quelqu'un qui peut m'aider pour installer XGL sur la version 6.06 de ubuntu
[02:28] <variant> timwizzy: apt-get install ssh
[02:28] <timwizzy> i dont even know what this machine is installing i just set it to go
[02:28] <variant> timwizzy: it should be on the cd
[02:29] <taillo> arf, I am french,
[02:29] <timwizzy> ok its rebooting now
[02:29] <Gasten> whyso: yes, that is a problem I run into too. didn't fix it. I switched to the official bittorrent-clent. much better. www.bittorrent.com. it's even in python.
[02:29] <variant> taillo: this is an english speaking channel
[02:29] <binfalse1> the only network services running on a default dapper install are bound to 127.0.0.1, so they can only be reached locally
[02:29] <timwizzy> time to do some commands
[02:29] <taillo> variant: i look !
[02:29] <binfalse1> binfalse1: dapper desktop install i mean
[02:29] <variant> taillo: #ubuntu.fr (just a guess)
[02:29] <taillo> arf !
[02:29] <taillo> thx !
[02:29] <binfalse1> oops, talking to myself :)
[02:29] <variant> taillo: ahh, its not a chan :P
[02:29] <Gasten> !fr
[02:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:30] <ironcladlou> magicmike: that is your new problem, then. why wouldn't you be able to see linux-generic
[02:30] <ironcladlou> how are your apt sources configured
[02:30] <whyso> variant: i did and its still not :( thanks for good general tip tho
[02:30] <variant> whyso: ok, find out the PID and kill -9 it
[02:30] <timwizzy> yay at least i can ping google.co.nz
[02:31] <variant> whyso: use top
[02:31] <Rookie_> !ncd
[02:31] <whyso> Gasten: cool thanks! is it the one that comes installed (that runs each torrent in a separate window?)
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <timwizzy> now time to copy that command aptget
[02:31] <CorpseFeeder> why can't I adjust my microphone volume? Do i need to be root to change mic level?
[02:31] <Rookie_> !mcd
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <variant> CorpseFeeder: you shouldnt need to be by default on ubuntu, no
[02:31] <variant> CorpseFeeder: run alsamixergui
[02:31] <timwizzy> Which program do i use to connect to my server via ssh on my ubuntu desktop?
[02:31] <Gasten> whyso: No. I don't know why it isn't preinstalled (and why that little sh*tty thing is called bittorrent.
[02:31] <variant> CorpseFeeder: you may need to apt-get install it first though
[02:32] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[02:32] <variant> timwizzy: ssh user@host
[02:32] <variant> timwizzy: that commmand
[02:32] <timwizzy> ta
[02:32] <Gasten> whyso: It is as good as azu(can't spell more) and BitComet.
[02:32] <variant> Gasten: azureus
[02:32] <variant> :P
[02:32] <Gasten> whyso: The only thing i use.
[02:32] <nolimitsoya> anting is better that aureus :P
[02:32] <Gasten> only*
[02:32] <didlo> variant one more thing, if i removed .wine it will be something wrong ?
[02:32] <Rookie_> !mc
[02:32] <nolimitsoya> *anything
[02:32] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[02:32] <variant> didlo: no
[02:32] <timwizzy> How do i check what ip my dhcp has assigned me?
[02:33] <variant> timwizzy: ifconfig eth0
[02:33] <binfalse1> Rookie_: what are you looking for?
[02:33] <didlo> variant and if I want to install again wine it will create automaticaly another dir with .wine ?
[02:33] <timwizzy> "ipconfig: comamnd not found"
[02:33] <binfalse1> timwizzy: ifconfig
[02:33] <Rookie_> binfalse1 - found it
[02:33] <whyso> Gasten: cool ty (and gotta love the python stuff!)
[02:33] <variant> didlo: yes, first time you run wine it creates .wine
[02:33] <binfalse1> Rookie_: okay
[02:33] <variant> timwizzy: ifconfig not ipconfig
[02:33] <didlo> variant ok
[02:33] <timwizzy> oh lol!
[02:33] <timwizzy> I'm such a windows user doh!
[02:34] <binfalse1> timwizzy: that can change .)
[02:34] <whyso> variant: hmmm azureus isnt even listed by process manager, is it safe to just kill java?
[02:34] <didlo> variant oh I forgot something, can I rename my login name ?
[02:34] <harisund> Hello! I have a question. I have to reinstall my operating system, but I want to keep my user info the same (meaning the users shouldn't know the OS has been reinstalled). Any ideas what files I need to save? I was thinking /etc/passwd but apparently not.
[02:34] <didlo> variant i mean the /home/"blabla"
[02:35] <tom47> samsung lcd colour depth problem
[02:35] <Gasten> harisund: the whole /home/ is agood starter.
[02:35] <variant> whyso: kill the java pid yes
[02:35] <variant> didlo: yes, usermod
[02:35] <didlo> variant can you give me more details ? :)
[02:35] <Gasten> harisund: thou, I have no idea whee the account-info are stored.
[02:35] <timwizzy> So this server iso is basicly like a netinst of debian?
[02:35] <timwizzy> Its downloading off the net
[02:35] <harisund> Gasten the /home is mounted on a different partition that I am not formatting. My concern is this: I reinstall the OS and then recreate the users. Now I want them to be able to logn with the password they had set earlier.
[02:35] <variant> didlo: dunno, i never did that. read the man page of usermod
[02:36] <didlo> variant ok
[02:36] <whyso> variant: worked :) ty!!!
[02:36] <sidolin> hi
[02:36] <harisund> Gasten, so I was wondering if there is one file which lists the user and passwords, so that if I copy that over I can allow the users to have their old passwords
[02:36] <Gasten> harisund: Ok. I'm not that divine that I know where the passwords are stored. (hardly the systemlogs!)
[02:36] <sidolin> how can i get ubuntu not to mount fat with utf-8? i have problems with the case-sensitive fs on my mp3player
[02:36] <variant> harisund: back up /etc/shadow* and /etc/passwd* and /etc/group* that should work if you replace them.. never tried it htough.. may need somthing else too
[02:36] <nolimitsoya> !vmware > nolimitsoya
[02:36] <Gasten> harisund: I think there is.
[02:37] <tom47> help wanted samsung 740N lcd colour depth problem
[02:37] <Gasten> !xorg
[02:37] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:37] <CorpseFeeder> that alsa mixer seems to have done the trick.. the mic now works
[02:37] <variant> harisund: if you replace the new files with those ones that should be enough providing the usernames are the same
[02:38] <tom47> Gasten ty been there\
[02:38] <variant> didlo: usermod -l newname
[02:38] <variant> didlo: that wont change the home directory name though so you will have to chang ehtat too
[02:38] <binfalse1> harisund: /etc/shados stored the password hashes. plain passwords are stored nowhere.
[02:39] <didlo> variant i understand.. so what's the complete command ?
[02:39] <Gasten> tom47: I would ask aT THE FORUMS.
[02:39] <tom47> Gasten OK ty will try there
[02:39] <binfalse1> variant: i wonder if usermod -l also renames the user's crontab and such
[02:39] <Gasten> tom47: ops.. sorry about the caps.
[02:39] <tom47> nw
[02:39] <variant> binfalse1: nope, just hte login anem according to the man page
[02:40] <binfalse1> variant: so i guess renaming a user is more work than just usermod -l
[02:40] <harisund> thanks binfalse1 , variant and Fasten ..
[02:40] <anon32> question: if I perform a dist-upgrade while running a 686 kernel, will it switch to a 386 kernel?
[02:40] <harisund> variant, /etc/shadw, /etc/passwd and /etc/group are what I had in mind too..
[02:40] <harisund> I will try it out ..
[02:41] <variant> harisund: use * to get all the files.. passwd- for example
[02:41] <variant> anon32: good question, no idea
[02:41] <harisund> anon32, no, it won't. It will probably upgrade your 386 kernel to a newer 386 kernel if it is in the repos but the top of your grub will still be 686 latest version only.
[02:41] <harisund> ok thanks variant.
[02:41] <variant> anon32: actualy, the default in edgy is to not use 686 because of the lack of performance increae
[02:41] <bloodlions> I all
[02:41] <harisund> anon32 what I normally do is uninstall the 386 after I know the 686 is working.
[02:42] <anon32> variant, well, as I have multiple CPUs, I want a 686 kernel
[02:42] <anon32> harisund, ok
[02:42] <variant> anon32: so 686 package is gone.. so yeah, it will change you to the generic kernel
[02:42] <anon32> variant, and will said generic kernel have SMP support?
[02:42] <variant> anon32: the package is still there so you will probaboly have to reinstall it after
[02:42] <variant> anon32: yes absolutly
[02:42] <anon32> ugh
[02:43] <harisund> anon32 if you want to check, you can run a simulation of the dist-upgrade and it will tell you what changes will be made. You can search for the kernel change in that.
[02:43] <anon32> variant, well, the dapper generic 386 kernel doesn't have SMP..
[02:43] <variant> anon32: it will support smp, the differnece in performance between 686 and 383 kernels in not noticable on smp or not
[02:43] <variant> anon32: hmm, let me check
[02:43] <defrysk> 386 kernels have no bigmem support
[02:44] <anon32> defrysk, bigmem?
[02:44] <defrysk> over one gig ram support
[02:44] <anon32> ah
[02:44] <variant> anon32: he means highmem
[02:44] <anon32> oh
[02:44] <defrysk> high mem yes sorry
[02:44] <variant> anon32: the default generic kernel in edgy supports smp
[02:44] <variant> anon32: and its 386
[02:45] <anon32> YAY
[02:45] <variant> anon32: so nothing to worry abouthtere
[02:45] <anon32> and there was great rejoicing!
[02:45] <variant> anon32: lol
[02:45] <skoruppa_> hi
[02:45] <anon32> although, it might still break my winmodem
[02:45] <defrysk> so if you have i gig ram or more a kernel suited to your proc is handyer
[02:45] <defrysk> i = 1
[02:45] <defrysk> :s
[02:45] <anon32> is dist-upgrade reversible?
[02:46] <variant> anon32: not that i am aware, edgy has a regression feature but that wont work with anything previous to edgy if you know what i mean.. i think thats how it is anyway
[02:46] <anon32> ugh
[02:46] <variant> anon32: actualy, i think thats bs, i must have drempt that
[02:46] <variant> :P
[02:46] <defrysk> as reversible as making born babies unborn
[02:47] <anon32> defrysk, that's easy
[02:47] <m_tadeu> hello everyone
[02:47] <variant> anon32: wait till the 26th anyway when its released for real
[02:47] <variant> lo m_tadeu
[02:47] <skoruppa_> i got a little problem... after the latest update of ubuntu edgy i got "failed to initialize hal" when i start ubuntu witch cd in cdrom
[02:47] <anon32> variant, might still break my winmodem, lol
[02:47] <alvaro> anyone knows how can i do to run a dual screen? i have a nvdia e-Geforce MX 400 and an onboard graphic board with two monitors, but i get xorg errors
[02:47] <Gasten> tom47: You could try to edit you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. (dont forget to backit up first!!) There should be a wizard for it, but I have forgotten how you access to is .
[02:47] <m_tadeu> isit possible to recover grub from dapper desktop cd?
[02:47] <defrysk> anon32, get a proper modem
[02:47] <variant> m_tadeu: yes
[02:48] <anon32> after going from 6.06 to 6.06.1, I spent three days trying to get it working again... only to realize that all I had to do was follow directions :-\
[02:48] <variant> m_tadeu: run grub from the live cd
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> anon32, make a tar of your working dapper setup, and you risk nothing by upgrading :)
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> just untar if things go fubar
[02:48] <oidia> how do i "format" a disk with ext3?
[02:48] <PPAAUULL> Does anyone else get an error when trying to upgrade to Ubuntu edgy?
[02:48] <anon32> nolimitsoya, um... how does that work? you can't revert by just copying files
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> oidia, mkfs
[02:48] <m_tadeu> variant: grub-install?
[02:48] <skoruppa_> can someone help?
[02:48] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes you can ;)
[02:48] <defrysk> mk2fs -j
[02:48] <defrysk> or something
[02:48] <variant> m_tadeu: yep
[02:48] <gnomefreak> PPAAUULL: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <alvaro> i need help, please
[02:49] <variant> oidia: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1
[02:49] <anon32> nolimitsoya, no you can't
[02:49] <skoruppa_> i got a little problem... after the latest update of ubuntu edgy i got "failed to initialize hal" when i start ubuntu witch cd in cdrom
[02:49] <alvaro> how can i do to run a dual screen? i have a nvdia e-Geforce MX 400 and an onboard graphic board with two monitors, but i get xorg errors
[02:49] <variant> oidia: that will format the first partition of the first hard disk
[02:49] <anon32> besides, not even root can read all the files at once
[02:49] <m_tadeu> variant: thanx a lot :) regards
[02:49] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes you can! :|
[02:49] <tom47> Gasten yes been fiddling there ,,, do you have this monitor?
[02:49] <anon32> nolimitsoya, no you can't..
[02:49] <variant> m_tadeu: np
[02:49] <defrysk> skoruppa_, go to #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <skoruppa_> ok
[02:49] <nolimitsoya> anon32, please :) if you tar your dapper, you have a full backup :)
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> if you untar that, you are back to ehere you where before installation
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> linux doesnt have a registry :)
[02:50] <anon32> nolimitsoya, um... what will I do with said tar? that'd be 20GB
[02:50] <variant> anon32: tar is a program for doing backups.. its a little more complicated than just untarring it but yeah you can
[02:50] <anon32> and btw, the registry is just a set of files
[02:50] <nolimitsoya> anon32, you just tar /, not /home
[02:50] <Gasten> tom47: No, sorry. Have you considered it to be your graphic-card that does the problem?
[02:50] <timwizzy> How do I go about downloading the no-ip tar.gz on a website using my server's terminal? Is there any web browsers for terminal?
[02:50] <Vishnu_pradeep> hiya
[02:51] <binfalse1> timwizzy: w3m
[02:51] <nolimitsoya> variant, whats more complicated than untaring? thats all i ever do when recovering or moving from one hdd to another :)
[02:51] <anon32> nolimitsoya, ok... but that means I'd have to sudo chmod +R a+rwx / right?
[02:51] <timwizzy> w3m eh thanks I'll look into that
[02:51] <tom47> Gasten yes could be anywhere ... was just seeking someone that actually had this monitor and see if they experience what seems to me to be the wrong colour depth despite xorg settings
[02:51] <whyso> whats a good java gui builder in ubuntu?
[02:51] <XiXaQ> timwizzy, lynx is nice. links. wget maybe
[02:51] <whyso> (or ruby/python even better ) :)
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> anon32, the untaring would be done from a live system :)
[02:52] <variant> timwizzy: links, links2, lynx
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> not from a running copy of what you are trying to fix :P
[02:52] <variant> timwizzy: are better than w3m
[02:52] <anon32> nolimitsoya, and if I only have one box?
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> anon32, the intallacd ;)
[02:52] <timwizzy> I want LYNX!
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> *install
[02:52] <timwizzy> but its not on aptitude
[02:52] <nolimitsoya> thats a live system
[02:52] <variant> timwizzy: if you know the exact url to download just do "wget -c http://path/to/download
[02:52] <binfalse1> variant: lynx is better than w3m?
[02:52] <timwizzy> do i have to install it manually?
[02:52] <jrib> whyso: well you can use glade for python, and ruby
[02:52] <Gasten> tom47: what monitor did you use, did you say? have you tried any other?
[02:52] <johnmorr> i dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy a couple days ago (when the rc was announced), but after the reboot, xorg-driver-fglrx was no longer installed. re-installing it manually works fine. the dist-upgrade apt.log says it's being removed due to a broken dep on xserver-xorg. should i report this as a bug?
[02:53] <anon32> nolimitsoya, I don't have enough ram to but that much data in memory?
[02:53] <anon32> !edgy > johnmorr
[02:53] <variant> timwizzy: the package is lynx-cur
[02:53] <tom47> Gasten i was using a mitsubishi until it died recenty and had not noticed on it what i see now .....
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> anon32, so make a tar of /, and move to /home. if things go over the egde, just boot the install cd, format /, move the tar to the new /, and untar
[02:53] <nolimitsoya> anon32, whats ram got to do with anything? :/
[02:53] <anon32> nolimitsoya, and how would I make that tar?
[02:53] <alvaro> anyone knows about using two monitors?
[02:53] <anon32> you can't do that from a running machine
[02:53] <Gasten> tom47: sorry. I have no idea.
[02:54] <nolimitsoya> anon32, just tar /, passing the --one-file-system command
[02:54] <johnmorr> ok, thanks anon32
[02:54] <variant> anon32: I have a 20gb tar sitting on my usb hard disk
[02:54] <mrlooney> where can I download codecs etc for ubuntu?
[02:54] <variant> !codec
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <variant> !codecs
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <whyso> jrib: oh ok, glade stuff not runnable on windows right? ( i want cross platfrom)
[02:54] <anon32> variant, what's that have to do with anything?
[02:54] <anon32> and I only have one hdd...
[02:55] <variant> anon32: the point is that tar is designed to backup systems.. thats what its for!
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> anon32, you just need onte. though you should have two partitions
[02:55] <tom47> Gasten ty anyway .... i was hoping to find someone with this actual monitor
[02:55] <anon32> besides, I think we're missing the point - you CAN'T tar files that are locked
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> anon32, even if you dont, still its ok to just untar over the existing files without format
[02:55] <Gasten> tom47: better luck next time.
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> anon32, there are no locked files
[02:55] <variant> anon32: locked?
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> sorry, but you are wrong :)
[02:55] <anon32> nolimitsoya, um.....
[02:55] <jrib> whyso: you can do gtk stuff in windows too (gaim for example).  Though there are other gui's that work right away with windows
[02:55] <anon32> a whole ton of files can't be read... even by root
[02:55] <variant> whyso: wxgtk
[02:55] <nolimitsoya> anon32, there is no such files on a unix system
[02:56] <tom47> Gasten am doing photo editing with GIMP is why I am sensitive to teh colour depth ... usually 16 is fine but i have to have 24
[02:56] <whyso> variant: cool thanks :)
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> every file can alvars be read and backed up, even if used
[02:56] <variant> anon32: thats not true.. if you mean /dev/ or /proc entries then you shouldnt be backing them up anyway
[02:56] <binfalse1> anon32: you have to skip /dev, /proc and /sys when tar'ing
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> those wont be backed up, since they arnt files ;)
[02:56] <anon32> alright then... what command should I run?
[02:56] <nolimitsoya> the --one-file-system command does away with those automaticaly
[02:56] <alvaro>  anyone knows about using two monitors?
[02:56] <Zaggynl> How do I access the smb shares created by Gnome with the bash shell?
[02:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell alvaro about xinerama
[02:57] <variant> Zaggynl: just a guess but, smbmount command should help
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> --one-file-system only backs up whats actualy on that filesystem. /var, /pric and the others arnt
[02:57] <Gasten> tom47: Ah..... Teh evil.
[02:57] <Zaggynl> variant, ah okay
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> *proc
[02:57] <anon32> nolimitsoya, so... tar --one-file-system / ?
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes
[02:57] <Zaggynl> variant, I used 'connect to server' from the Gnome menu, and it creates a nice and working shortcut to one of my windows shares
[02:57] <anon32> do I need to use recurse?
[02:57] <nolimitsoya> pass the -z command to
[02:57] <cryptonic> is anyone having problems downloading flash player 9, whenever i try and download it it downloads flash player 7
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> to get a gzip
[02:58] <variant> anon32: you might want to recurse and also preserve permissions
[02:58] <Zaggynl> I'm wondering how to use the shortcut with the terminal
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> that saves space
[02:58] <webben> cryptonic: downloading from where?
[02:58] <anon32> variant, I'm somewhat nooby, can you give me an example command?
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> variant, that true >_<
[02:58] <nolimitsoya> sry
[02:58] <cryptonic> adobe.com
[02:58] <webben> cryptonic: exact URL?
[02:58] <variant> anon32: not off the top of my head.. let me refer to the man page and get back to you
[02:58] <variant> anon32: which is what i always do
[02:58] <cryptonic> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[02:59] <webben> cryptonic: and are you trying to download the Windows version for use with Wine or the Linux beta?
[02:59] <cryptonic> nah, linux version
[02:59] <nolimitsoya> anon32, tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --one-file-system /
[02:59] <nolimitsoya> should work...
[02:59] <webben> cryptonic: I think that's the wrong URL for 9
[02:59] <jrib> cryptonic: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[02:59] <jrib> ubotu: tell cryptonic about flash9
[03:00] <anon32> nolimitsoya, preserves permissions?
[03:00] <nolimitsoya> anon32, and add --exclude=/backup.tgz, of course ;)
[03:00] <beach> good afternoon
[03:00] <webben> cryptonic: follow the link from here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html
[03:00] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes, -p does that
[03:00] <webben> cryptonic: and remember to uninstall any existing flash you have
[03:00] <anon32> nolimitsoya, where should I add the exclude line?
[03:00] <cryptonic> dont think iv installed any flash
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> anon32, right by the --one-file-system commend
[03:01] <timwizzy> Is there a special button in lynx to save a file? When I select download it does something strange
[03:01] <nolimitsoya> *command
[03:01] <ubuntumah> alsalm alainum
[03:01] <ubuntumah> alaikum
[03:01] <variant> timwizzy: yeah, there is a menu at the top
[03:01] <beach> question: I am trying to install a matrox driver on my brand new AMD64, and it complains that /lib/modules/.../build does not exist.  Does anyone know whether I can find that in some Ubuntu package?
[03:01] <ubuntumah>   
[03:01] <anon32> nolimitsoya, last question - will it try to backup my second partition (don't want that)?
[03:01] <ubuntumah>    
[03:02] <variant> anon32: if its mounted
[03:02] <Lightenix> hi, can anyone tell me where can i find list of system calls for kernel 2.6.18
[03:02] <nolimitsoya> anon32, no, thats what the --one-file-system does :)
[03:02] <Lightenix> ?
[03:02] <jrib> ubotu: english only please
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english only please - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <nolimitsoya> variant, no, it wont :)
[03:02] <variant> nolimitsoya: hmm..
[03:02] <nolimitsoya> couse those are on another file system ;)
[03:02] <Zaggynl> ubuntumah, English only please.
[03:03] <ubuntumah> how can i install wlassistant pakages??
[03:03] <ubuntumah> ok
[03:03] <anon32> running....
[03:04] <ubuntumah> I cant use make to wlassistant
[03:04] <variant> nolimitsoya: i see, but that wont backup /boot or /var or whatever if its on aseperate partitions
[03:04] <variant> anon32: btw, it will take hours if you have a lot of stuff..
[03:04] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[03:04] <nolimitsoya> variant, no, thats true
[03:04] <variant> anon32: and a slow box :)
[03:04] <anon32> variant, ugh?
[03:04] <mike1o> how can ssh into my friend PC from a my PC; neither of us are have public IP's
[03:04] <HumanPrototype> how can i set up shorewall as a router?
[03:05] <anon32> so, you say it won't backup /boot and /var?
[03:05] <ubuntumah> how can i install wlassistant pakages??
[03:05] <binfalse1> mike1o: one of you could tell his ip adress to a service like dyndns
[03:05] <variant> mike1o: browse to the website whatsmyip.com and ssh to that. you may need dto forward the ports on your router/firewall to allow it
[03:05] <nolimitsoya> anon32, not if those are on a separate partition
[03:06] <variant> anon32: yes, --one-file-system wont allow that unless you have /boot /var on the same partition as /
[03:06] <anon32> nolimitsoya, are they usually?
[03:06] <HumanPrototype> mike1o, if you do it regularly then look at dyndns.com
[03:06] <nolimitsoya> then you need to run the command from those partitions as well
[03:06] <nolimitsoya> anon32, no
[03:06] <anon32> ok, I'm fine then
[03:06] <variant> anon32: the defautl install is to have it on /
[03:06] <anon32> I'm on /usr/lib now
[03:06] <anon32> the tar shouldn't take too long, but the gzip will
[03:07] <nolimitsoya> anon32, it gzips while tar:ing
[03:07] <anon32> nolimitsoya, um, gzip only does one file, so it would have to be tarred before gziped
[03:07] <binfalse1> anon32: tar pipes its output to gzip
[03:07] <anon32> !!!
[03:08] <nolimitsoya> :)
[03:08] <nolimitsoya> nifty, huh?
[03:08] <binfalse1> anon32: gzip can compress data read from a pipe
[03:08] <anon32> wait... so tar file - gzip file - tar again?? wtf?
[03:08] <Zaggynl> What's a GUI tool to watch your % amount of free diskspace in real time?
[03:08] <drezha> tgz = tar gzip file
[03:08] <Zaggynl> *what's a good tool
[03:08] <cryptonic> does anyone know where firefox's plugin directory is on ubuntu?
[03:08] <binfalse1> anon32: no, you dont need to call gzip manually in that case
[03:08] <anon32> by the way, was there no chance that I could have used bzip2 instead?
[03:08] <nolimitsoya> anon32, as i said, it gzips while taring :)
[03:08] <anon32> :-)?
[03:08] <binfalse1> anon32: the tar option -z does it for you
[03:09] <mike1o> variant, the problem is that neither of us are connected directly to the router
[03:09] <drezha> I've got a tar question as well...
[03:09] <willys_fueguino> hello???
[03:09] <jrib> cryptonic: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ or use ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for your user
[03:09] <nolimitsoya> anon32, you could, by taking the -z out and putting --bzip2 instead
[03:09] <nolimitsoya> but thats useless
[03:09] <anon32> why?
[03:09] <drezha> it wont accept my exclude argument
[03:09] <nolimitsoya> just eats processing power and takes ages
[03:09] <anon32> bzip2 is superior to gzip though
[03:09] <willys_fueguino> If I use thunar as root and I delete something accidentaly, How can I recover it??
[03:09] <nolimitsoya> in compressionratio, yes
[03:09] <nolimitsoya> though not i performance
[03:09] <anon32> hmm
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> willys_fueguino, you cant :)
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> usualy...
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> anon32, there is p7zip ;)
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> thats 7zip, but command line
[03:10] <anon32> nolimitsoya, doesn't properly recurse
[03:10] <teledyn> is there a way to stay current with ubuntu even after next release by changing "dapper" in sources.list to "current" or something?
[03:10] <nolimitsoya> yes it does?
[03:10] <anon32> teledyn, no
[03:10] <anon32> nolimitsoya, no it doesn't?
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> what do you mean?
[03:11] <teledyn> anon32: so when the new release comes, it will be necessary to dist-upgrade?
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> teledyn, yes you can
[03:11] <anon32> it even tells you that -r is broken if you use --help
[03:11] <anon32> teledyn, yes
[03:11] <Ayabara> what application can I use to join avi files with vbr?
[03:11] <mike1o> HumanPrototype, the problem is that neither of us are connected directly to the router
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> teledyn, to upgrade just change all the 'dappers' to 'edgys'
[03:11] <anon32> ugh-oh, it's not excluding backup
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> to stay in dapper, dont do a thing :)
[03:11] <nolimitsoya> anon32, then abort :)
[03:12] <teledyn> anon32: actually that kind of makes sense, since ubuntu releases are basically static except for security updates until the next release.  correct?
[03:12] <anon32> teledyn, yea... unfortunately
[03:12] <anon32> I really would like non-static releases
[03:12] <drezha> why this argument not excluding the folder?
[03:12] <drezha> tar pzcvf /home/chris/Desktop/DocsBackup.tgz /home/chris/Disc2/Documents --exclude="/home/chris/Disc2/Documents/My Music/"
[03:12] <teledyn> anon32: actually i think that's a good thing  :-)   etch/sid for me are too unstable
[03:12] <nolimitsoya> drezha, move the exclude one step to the left
[03:12] <nolimitsoya> before the folder to tar
[03:13] <teledyn> i like the 6 month release thing - it seems like a good balance between being stable but also current
[03:13] <anon32> I just don't like the outdated packages....
[03:13] <drezha> right cheers
[03:13] <jrib> Ayabara: I don't about vbr, but there is 'avicat' that you can try from the avifile-utils package.  You can probably use mencoder or ffmpeg somehow to (idk how)
[03:13] <mike1o> how can ssh into my friend PC from a my PC; neither of us are have public IP's and neither of us are connected directly to the router
[03:13] <anon32> say, why is Azureus not 2.5.0.0 even in edgy?
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> a dvd movie I was once able to play on my previous installation will no longer mount, is there any reason for this I have all the dvd stuff installed
[03:13] <teledyn> anon32: then you should be using etch or sid?
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !dvd
[03:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:13] <anon32> repeating with proper syntax this time :-P
[03:13] <nolimitsoya> anon32, couse azuerus is crap :)
[03:13] <teledyn> or whatever ubuntu unstable is called
[03:13] <anon32> nolimitsoya, no it isn't?
[03:13] <shashi_sa> Hi , I just want to know the list of packages ubuntu server provides . Any URL that i can check up list of packages of Ubuntu server ?
[03:13] <nolimitsoya> >200MB ram just for tre downloads :/
[03:13] <m`kay> hi@all
[03:13] <nolimitsoya> *three
[03:13] <anon32> teledyn, there's no ubuntu-unstable
[03:13] <Ayabara> jrib: ok, I will try it out. thanks
[03:14] <drezha> not linux but utorrent works great under wine
[03:14] <nolimitsoya> anon32, there is always the development release
[03:14] <m`kay> is there a namerule in ubuntu???
[03:14] <teledyn> anon32: what is edgy then?
[03:14] <nolimitsoya> thats the unstable ;)
[03:14] <anon32> drezha, nothing works *great* in wine
[03:14] <m`kay> like alphabetical?
[03:14] <anon32> teledyn, just a beta of the next static version?
[03:14] <drezha> well utorrent works and I guess thats all thats needed
[03:14] <anon32> personally, I try to avoid WINE like the plague
[03:15] <shashi_sa> Hi , I just want to know the list of packages ubuntu server provides . Any URL that i can check up list of packages of Ubuntu server ?
[03:15] <teledyn> anon32, nolimitsoya: how stable is the beta?
[03:15] <jrib> Ayabara: transcode is another utility I don't know about :)
[03:15] <nolimitsoya> just realiced something... i forgot to tell you to clean the apt cache before taring... that will save you quite a lot of time and drive space :)
[03:15] <anon32> teledyn, it's at Release Candidate, so it's pretty much final
[03:15] <nolimitsoya> teledyn, very :)
[03:15] <drezha> well I need it for 2 items...utorrent cos I hate all linux BT clients and a graphing utility
[03:15] <anon32> nolimitsoya...
[03:15] <anon32> drezha, a graphing utility?
[03:16] <drezha> FAHChart
[03:16] <anon32> btw, Azureus 2.5 is slick (although still bloated)
[03:16] <drezha> takes a log file and turn it into a graph
[03:16] <anon32> drezha, that doesn't seem complicated... can't you write your own?
[03:16] <Ayabara> jrib: :-)
[03:16] <ianmacgregor> shashi_sa: Have a look here: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/LampTutorial
[03:16] <drezha> possibly
[03:16] <shashi_sa> K
[03:16] <teledyn> anon32, nolimitsoya: thanks
[03:17] <drezha> if I got into coding yes I could
[03:17] <nolimitsoya> teledyn, np :)
[03:17] <_Brandon_> does someone know if netgear wg311is it's wg311 v2? or if it works fine on linux?
[03:17] <teledyn> nolimitsoya: so i just change dapper to edgy then dist-upgrade?
[03:17] <nolimitsoya> teledyn, yes :)
[03:17] <anon32> I'd use WINE for games, but that'd be like playing them on an old 80386
[03:17] <nolimitsoya> but wait till the day after tomorrow
[03:17] <nolimitsoya> then the upgrade method should be perfect
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> (or about perfect...)
[03:18] <anon32> nolimitsoya, why the day after tomorrow?
[03:18] <drezha> I'll stick with my Core Duo lappy for games...not good for brand new games but then I dont play new games
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> anon32, couse then edgy is the stable version of ubuntu :)
[03:18] <anon32> nolimitsoya, the release date is the 36th
[03:18] <anon32> 26th*
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> hm... i thought it was 24 today :/
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> sorry
[03:19] <teledyn> how exciting
[03:19] <anon32> actually, edgy will be rebranded feisty upon releas
[03:19] <anon32> presumably, work would then begin on a new eggy
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[03:19] <anon32> edgy*
[03:19] <nolimitsoya> hm... my mobile says its 24, and my computer...
[03:19] <nolimitsoya> somethings fucked up :/
[03:19] <nolimitsoya> television says 21:P
[03:19] <jrib> anon32: no, that's now how ubuntu does it.  edgy is edgy, next release is feisty
[03:19] <drezha> cheers for the tar help. works a treat now
[03:19] <variant> anon32: really? didnt know that
[03:20] <ianmacgregor> shashi_sa: Yes it does, read section number 1
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> edgy is edgy
[03:20] <variant> nolimitsoya: this is a fammily friendly channle
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> will always be
[03:20] <ianmacgregor> samitheberber: LAMP
[03:20] <anon32> jrib, feisty *is* the current edgy
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> variant, sorry :<
[03:20] <anon32> it will be rebranded and forked
[03:20] <jrib> anon32: feisty is dapper+2
[03:20] <anon32> jrib, ???
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> jrib is right
[03:20] <anon32> WHY CAN'T WE USE VERSION NUMBERS?
[03:20] <anon32> sorry for yelling
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> we do :)
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> 6.06 for dapper
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> 6.10 for edgy
[03:21] <jenda> 7.04 for FF
[03:21] <jenda> :)
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> 6.04 for feisty
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> *7
[03:21] <ianmacgregor> shashi_sa: Oh, you want the package names?
[03:21] <anon32> nolimitsoya, finished, does it copy symbolic links?
[03:21] <shashi_sa> ianmacgregor : It conatins only LampTutorial . I want the complete list of packages what ubuntu server media conatins .
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> anon32, it copies erverything :)
[03:21] <binfalse1> anon32: symlinks ar tarred as symlinks
[03:22] <shashi_sa> yes
[03:22] <binfalse1> *are
[03:22] <anon32> nolimitsoya, that makes no sense, version numbers are based on month and year - it'd be 6.10 for feisty
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> anon32, no 7.04
[03:22] <anon32> hey, my tgz is only 939.5 M :-)
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> anon32, edgy is 6.10
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> since, it will be released this month
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> ;)
[03:23] <anon32> nolimitsoya, the topic for edgy says it'll be named feisty
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> anon32, then the topic if wrong ;)
[03:23] <teledyn> "Need to get 720MB of archives."   whoa
[03:23] <jrib> anon32: "edgy+1 will be Feisty Fawn"
[03:23] <rabautz> Hi, i can't change themes. When i do so, the window border and title changes, but not the "content". Any ideas?
[03:23] <jbmigel> where can i find a list of changes in edgy vs. dapper?
[03:25] <jrib> jbmigel: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate
[03:25] <teledyn> jbmigel: search google: edgy site:ubuntu.com
[03:25] <ianmacgregor> rabautz: There are different types of themes. There are GTK2 themes (controls/widgets) and Metacity themes (titlebar and border) and icon themes (icons). Are you changing a GTK2 theme or a Metacity theme?
[03:25] <HumanPrototype> what is the simplest way of setting up a gateway on my linux box?
[03:25] <jrib> jbmigel: the "releasenotes" should list the changes
[03:25] <rabautz> GtK2 ianmacgregor
[03:26] <ianmacgregor> rabautz: Then you need tomake sure the theme you are seeking is actually a GTK2 theme and not a Metacity theme
[03:26] <ianmacgregor> rabautz: How did you install the theme you are trying to change to?
[03:27] <jbmigel> thanks jrib
[03:27] <teledyn> i just build my first ubuntu .deb.  is there a place i can submit it?
[03:27] <rabautz> ianmacgregor, I just pasted the "Glossy P"-Theme from gnome-look to Theme-manager .. but i even can't change between the standard-themes that are shipped with ubuntu
[03:28] <gnomefreak> teledyn: join #ubuntu-motu and ask
[03:28] <tristanmike> I'm using "Sound Juicer" but I want my tracks to be 192kbps, but the line the Ubuntu Doc tells me (audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux) only puts me at 128, does anyone have any idea ?
[03:29] <tristanmike> sorry, that was in mp3
[03:29] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ; iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE   (where ethX must be the interface to the internet)
[03:30] <davin> how do I play .ram/.rm files inside firefox using mozilla-mplayer? The rest works but not ram/rm
[03:30] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: both commands must be run with root priveleges of course
[03:30] <jrib> davin: have you installed w32codecs?
[03:30] <greendog> Anybody knows how to use a keyboard from a mac (I can't join chanels because i can't type sharps ^^)
[03:31] <rabautz> ianmacgregor, i changed to beryl now (could Xgl be the reason). It's the same. Can't change gtk2-themes with theme-manager.
[03:31] <ProN00b> greendog, that is because mac fails
[03:31] <ProN00b> greendog, either mac or linux, you decide
[03:31] <ianmacgregor> rabautz: I know nothing about xgl or beryl
[03:32] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, i tried the first with sudo and it said permission denied?
[03:32] <davin> jrib: yes
[03:32] <greendog> ProN00b: But I use a pc, but with a mac keyboard
[03:32] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: for the first, you must do: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[03:32] <ProN00b> greendog, still, mac stuff won't work
[03:33] <greendog> ProN00b: So I can't type some characters anyway, anybody has a solution ?
[03:34] <ProN00b> greendog, just change the keyboard layout... -_-
[03:34] <jrib> davin: have a link to some rm file?  I'll find out what codec my mplayer is using
[03:34] <shashi_sa> Hi , I just want to know the list of packages ubuntu server provides . Any URL that i can check up list of packages of Ubuntu server ?
[03:34] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: the first command turns on ip forwarding (routing) on the machine, the second enables source nat (ip masquerading) for packets that leave the machine on a specific network interface
[03:35] <tritium> shashi_sa: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <davin> jrib: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1535000/video/_1537692_planeone_footage09_vi.ram
[03:35] <shashi_sa> K , let me check
[03:35] <sikor_sxe> can i painlessly run kubuntu along with ubuntu?
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> sikor_sxe, not painlessly
[03:35] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, so now i can plug a machine into the ethernet port and have it go out on the wireless?
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> but you can
[03:35] <davin> sikor_sxe: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and you can choose both at logon
[03:35] <|thunder> Is it possible to mount a bin/cue ?
[03:36] <davin> |thunder: sudo mount /path/to/bin /mount/place?
[03:36] <jrib> davin: does http://info.linspire.com/lindows/audiovideo/TSS_Lindows.rm work for you?
[03:36] <davin> |thunder: or cue dunno, I use iso
[03:36] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: you have to set your linux machine as the default gateway on the machine you plug into it
[03:36] <sikor_sxe> nolimitsoya: what could be the problem?
[03:36] <davin> jrib: yeah it does
[03:36] <aNewB> My sign in screen comes up in a resolution or frequency outside the range of my monitor, how can I fit this?
[03:36] <shashi_sa> tritium : How can i check only Ubuntu server packages ?
[03:36] <nolimitsoya> sikor_sxe, you will get a downright mess in you menus, for example
[03:36] <sikor_sxe> ah ok
[03:36] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, it seems to be working as it is resolving the domain names but ping google.com takes ages to get nothing
[03:36] <nolimitsoya> if you must, install kde-core instead of xubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <davin> sikor_sxe: yes it will install all apps included in kubuntu too
[03:37] <jrib> davin: yeah, this is what I get when I run mplayer from a terminal with your link:  You need to obtain a new player to play this clip. Please point your web browser to http://www.real.com and download the latest RealOne Player from RealNetworks. Once you have installed it you should try this clip again.
[03:37] <cryptonic> how do i get kde as the default gui in ubuntu?
[03:37] <davin> jrib: thanks mate
[03:37] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: you installed shorewall before, didnt you?
[03:37] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, yes but i have removed it now
[03:37] <davin> cryptonic: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <sikor_sxe> ok thanks, that's what i meant with hazzle
[03:37] <sikor_sxe> p
[03:37] <davin> cryptonic: that deletes gnome and adds kde
[03:37] <jrib> davin: I'm not sure if it's just an identification problem
[03:38] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: are can you make sure it didn't leave any iptables rules?
[03:38] <variant> binfalse1: iptables -f
[03:38] <binfalse1> -F
[03:38] <davin> jrib: I cant find RealOne, only RealPlayer
[03:39] <binfalse1> variant: iptables -F might not be enough, the default policy of the chains may be set to DROP
[03:40] <davin> jrib: and I cant see any linux version either
[03:40] <jrib> davin: realplayer 10 is in the repositories, idk about real one
[03:40] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, iptables -L shows nothing in the three chains
[03:40] <binfalse1> thats why i did not recommend installing shorewall just to get routing/masquerading done
[03:40] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: and which default policy is set?
[03:40] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, ACCEPT all round
[03:40] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: okay
[03:40] <davin> jrib: sudo apt-get install realplayer gives me some error about xlibs
[03:41] <davin> jrib; hold on
[03:42] <neemz> is the linux realplayer not evil like the windows one?
[03:42] <Liorithiel> hello
[03:42] <davin> realpalyer -is- evil
[03:42] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: and pinging google.com still doesn't work?
[03:43] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, no and now it  cant resolve the dns
[03:43] <human39> hello, quick question.  How do I skip kernel updates in apt-get?
[03:43] <IRC_> how come in firefox if the shockwave file isnt focused on in the window, the plugin stops working?
[03:43] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: okay, step by step. what default route is set on the machine you plugged in?
[03:43] <jrib> davin: 'realplay' should be the name of the package.  It is in edgy commercial
[03:44] <jrib> davin: I mean dapper commercial
[03:44] <Liorithiel> i've got a problem with playing dvd's... when i run totem and choose to play dvd from menu, it responds with "Failed to find mountpoint for /dev/hdb"
[03:44] <rabautz> ianmacgregor, gnome-settings-daemon didn't run. That was problem with theme-changing. thx
[03:44] <Liorithiel> i can play that dvd when i run totem with 'totem dvd://' from a terminal
[03:44] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, on the gateway its from the wireless im connecting to (the internet)
[03:45] <IRC_> how come in firefox if the shockwave file isnt focused on in the window, the plugin stops working?
[03:45] <Liorithiel> but i need to have first option working
[03:45] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: you don't get me
[03:45] <ianmacgregor> rabautz: Glad you found that
[03:45] <Liorithiel> does anybody know where's the problem?
[03:45] <davin> jrib: cant find realplay, only realplayer
[03:45] <tristanmike> I'm using "Sound Juicer" to rip my cd's to mp3 and I would like my tracks to be 192kbps, but the line the Ubuntu Documentation tells me to add (audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux) but this only puts me at 128kbps, how would I adjust the line for 192kbps ?
[03:45] <jrib> davin: have you enabled the dapper-commercial repository?
[03:46] <Mad3Max3> Hello! I could use some help... have "messed up" my drivers for my soundcard.. and can't get it to work. alsa drivers and stuff
[03:46] <hikenboot> hello all I have worked for 3 days to figure out what my video 3ddesk and glxinfo problem with direct rendering: no problem...I have figured it out! its a rights issue I think as root I can direct render...anyone know what the solution is currently on a normal boot the rights are rw-rw-rw for /dev/nvidia0 and /dev/nvidiaactl anyone knw how to fix this problem chmod +777 /dev/nvida* reverts back on next boot
[03:46] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, on the connecting machine i want to give inet access to its ... all screwed up
[03:46] <jrib> davin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[03:46] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, that will be the prob but how do i delete a route?
[03:46] <Mad3Max3> did a uninstall of all the sounddrivers and installed them again.. won't work
[03:47] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: i don't know, you didn tell me which route you have set
[03:47] <hikenboot> i assume the problem is that i need execute rights
[03:47] <jokoon> Hello
[03:47] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, a gateway (192.168.0.1)
[03:47] <Mad3Max3> I did a compilation and a .. make install yestrday of the newest version of alsa. 1.0.13 .. how do I uninstall something like that.. it won't show up in the packages..
[03:47] <Mad3Max3> or does it
[03:48] <timwizzy> Can someone do me a favor. ssh to timtech.myftp.biz and tell me does it connect
[03:48] <timwizzy> I cant seem to connect to myself
[03:49] <davin> jrib: cheers, installing realplay now
[03:49] <Mad3Max3> and I wonder.. when I do install something from source code.. where does all the files go.. what folder.. and such.. with xp I have control over where stuff gets stored. here in linux I just se stuff happen and don't have the foggiest where and why
[03:49] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: you have to give things names. whats the hostname of the machine with the wireless card? (the one with two network interfaces)
[03:49] <hastesaver> Hi, there is a php.ini in both /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini and /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini. Why are there two, and how are they different?
[03:50] <Daniel-56> hey SAM_theman
[03:50] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, kallavitch and the connecting machine is arthur
[03:50] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: If you learned how to pass arguments to ./configure, you'd see that you have control in Linux too ;)
[03:50] <SAM_theman> Yo Daniel-56
[03:50] <finalbeta> Mad3Max3 yeah, good question, I've installed apps that made no shurtcut, and I didn't figure out how to start them. lol
[03:50] <jrib> ubotu: tell Mad3Max3 about checkinstall
[03:50] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: okay, so give me the network interface config of kallavitch first (BOTH interfaces)
[03:50] <hastesaver> Mad3Max3, it doesn't matter where they go :-)
[03:51] <davin> jrib: alright, realplayer 10 works now, I just copy paste the url in the player, ill look later into how to watch it in firefox, thanks for all your help!
[03:51] <jrib> davin: np
[03:51] <Mad3Max3> I followed some instructions on the web about installing the latest alsa drivers.. in kinda made my soundcard go away.. all I wanted was alsa to dectedt my s-pdif
[03:51] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, http://pastebin.ca/213535
[03:51] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Be sure to read the warning on that checkinstall page too
[03:51] <aNewB> Help Help Please Help I will repeat my question I didn't see a response did I miss it? My sign in screen comes up in a resolution or frequency outside the range of my monitor, so all I see is an outside of range message. how can I fix this? Therefore I am having to sign in blind. Not good.
[03:52] <atom> why is .x2chat a hidden folder?
[03:52] <jrib> atom: because it starts with a .
[03:52] <hastesaver> atom, anything beginning with a . is hidden. And it's probably .xchat2, not .x2chat
[03:52] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: okay. and ath0 is your interface to the internet, right?
[03:52] <Mad3Max3> hastesaver : to me it does. I want control.. and with ubuntu I have a hard time beeing in control..
[03:52] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, yes
[03:52] <atom> yeah... rename to standard folder good idea?
[03:53] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: and now the network config for arthur
[03:53] <hastesaver> Mad3Max3, so tell me how does it matter?
[03:53] <jrib> atom: no, because things looking for stuff in .xchat2 will not find stuff in xchat2
[03:54] <Mad3Max3> for fault searching.. and such.. removing stuff that doesn't belong and ect..
[03:54] <hastesaver> atom, what's the problem? it's for settings and such... not things you need to be seeing.
[03:55] <tristanmike> Hi, I'm trying to do a very simple thing. I'm trying to rip my cd's to 192 Kbps, can anyone please tell me a program I can do this with ?
[03:55] <jrib> atom: the . is not for "hiding" really.  It's just to get it out of your qay so it doesn't clutter the important stuff like your documents, pictures etc.
[03:55] <atom> my downloades are in thre
[03:55] <hastesaver> Mad3Max3, ideally, if you don't go out of the package management system, then you only remove with the package manager... in which case it takes care
[03:55] <jrib> atom: you can probably change the download folder in the preferences
[03:55] <hastesaver> atom, you can either change (in xchat preferences) where the downloads go to...
[03:55] <hastesaver> atom, or, if you really need, you can make a symbolic link on your desktop to ~/.xchat2
[03:55] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Do you read the README and INSTALL files before installing from source? Those files tell you how to use the different commands to gain more control.
[03:56] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: still there?
[03:56] <atom> how do you create a link?
[03:56] <hastesaver> Mad3Max3, but if you install from source, you can control every tiny aspect, such as which directory, and everything else (options to ./configure ...)
[03:56] <majorowl> anybody have dapper on a clamshell ibook?
[03:57] <jrib> atom: right click > make link
[03:57] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, yes - i have to type it manually though
[03:57] <ianmacgregor> atom: ln -s /path/target /path/link-name
[03:57] <HumanPrototype> http://pastebin.ca/213538
[03:58] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows an alternative to Filemon?
[03:58] <atom> right click the desktop or the hidden folder which is hidden? :)
[03:58] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1,  http://pastebin.ca/213538
[03:58] <jrib> atom: the folder ~/.xchat2/downloads/
[03:58] <atom> any way to unhide folders?
[03:58] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: and can you ping 192.168.1.100 from arthur?
[03:58] <everamzah> if i download the source package for linux-image-2.6.17-generic does it come prepatched with all the restricted drivers, etc? ubuntu supports my laptop best of all distros, but i need to install the molnar's preempt-rt patches
[03:58] <jrib> atom: ctrl-h or view > hidden folders
[03:59] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, well.. it was late yesterday night.. and I was anoyed that the s-pdif didn't got detected.. so I just followed a how-to on internet.. didn't work thou. it made my soundcard go away completly.. did a reinstall of the old alsa drivers via apt.. but don't work. so I think I have to remove those I installed yesterday or something.. the problem now is how to find that install and uninstall it since it wasn't with a packaging servic
[03:59] <ianmacgregor> atom: CTRL+H or check View -> Show hidden files
[03:59] <atom> wow theres alot of hidden folders
[03:59] <rhalff> hi what was that command to upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu ?
[03:59] <rhalff> me forgot..
[03:59] <jrib> ubotu: tell rhalff about upgrade
[03:59] <scandium> hello, some time ago there has been a debian bug regarding a new upstream version of "jfsutils" which fixes security bugs amongst some other things (debian bug #343638) and although jfsutils is in main it got never synced to ubuntu - why? :)
[03:59] <rhalff> yeah, tell me.. :p
[03:59] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Go back to the source folder and issue: sudo make uninstall
[03:59] <HumanPrototype>  binfalse1 yes
[03:59] <jrib> rhalff: he should have sent you a private message
[04:00] <rhalff> jrib, ah thanks, I'm a retard.. :)
[04:00] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: okay. now do "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" on kallavitch?
[04:01] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, good thing that I didn't remove the source folder then! :)
[04:01] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: does that return 1?
[04:01] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, yes
[04:01] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Doesn't matter, you could have unpacked it and compiled it again and the uninstall would have worked anyway
[04:01] <aNewB> I used another monitor to install. I changed the resolution to a lower setting after logging in so that this monitor can handle it but how do I change the resolution of the log in / sign in screen?
[04:01] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: All the make install does is copy needed files to their proper directory
[04:02] <HumanPrototype> aNewB, u need to reconfigure x
[04:02] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: okay, still on kallavitch: sudo iptables -t nat -L POSTROUTING -nv
[04:02] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: If you read the makefile, it tells where everything is installed to
[04:02] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, sudo iptables -t nat -L POSTROUTING -nv
[04:02] <aNewB> ok, thank you HumanPrototype.
[04:02] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, returns : 0     0 MASQUERADE  all  --  *      ethX    0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0
[04:03] <HumanPrototype> aNewB, sure
[04:03] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: i told you to replace ethX with the interface to the net, but you blindly typed in the line
[04:04] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, sorry - i changed it the first time then retired it when it ddnt work and forgot to change it
[04:04] <marcelo> Ola como eu configuro a minha inpressora
[04:04] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, can i have the line again please?
[04:04] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ath0 -j MASQUERADE
[04:04] <hikenboot> anyone here able to help with a pam issue
[04:05] <scandium> btw. it's also reported on launchpad (57595) but hasnt been touched yet :(
[04:06] <atom> is the respository scheme unique to ubuntu?
[04:06] <jokoon> I set tahoma font in ubuntu, the problem is that the font is not "smooth" even in best shape, but IT IS when in italic/oblique. But there is not any italic mode in font selector.
[04:06] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, thnks
[04:06] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: if you put in that line, try pinging 72.14.207.99 from arthur
[04:06] <ianmacgregor> atom: no
[04:06] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: and if that works, try pinging google.com from arthur
[04:06] <hastesaver_> atom, no, many distros have it. But it works best only on Debian-based (like Ubuntu) distros, IMHO ;)
[04:07] <LjL> atom: depends what you mean. "main" "restricted" "universe" "multiverse", and "-updates", "-security", "-backports" is unique to ubuntu. but the APT system of repositories is a Debian inherited thing.
[04:07] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor,  the configure file.. is the installer for the package?
[04:07] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, and writing ./configure runs the apps?
[04:08] <exhale> is apt-get autoremove only on 6.10?
[04:08] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: No, the configure file runs a set of tests on your system and then the makefile is created. The makefile is the one which tells the source where to install things.
[04:08] <jokoon> ubotu tell jokoon about fonts
[04:08] <hastesaver_> Mad3Max3, ./configure decides which directories, what compilation options, etc.
[04:08] <LjL> exhale: yes
[04:08] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: No, writing ./configure "configures" the sources.
[04:08] <LjL> exhale: you can use aptitude to obtain a similar effect on dapper
[04:08] <LjL> !aptitude > exhale
[04:08] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: does it work now?
[04:09] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: If you're looking for the executable command, you will usually find the executable insied the src directory after running make.
[04:10] <timwizzy> can i connect to someones ssh?
[04:10] <timwizzy> please
[04:10] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, I don't have a src folder... :(
[04:10] <ianmacgregor> timwizzy: They would have to create an account for you or tell you the username:password to an existing account.
[04:10] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, just testing
[04:11] <timwizzy> oh too much hassle
[04:11] <timwizzy> hey
[04:11] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: What are you compiling? Can I have a URL? I'll look at the sources.
[04:11] <timwizzy> can u ssh to me then
[04:11] <timwizzy> i want to test my noip
[04:11] <timwizzy> ssh to timtech.myftp.biz
[04:11] <timwizzy> please
[04:11] <timwizzy> tell me does it at lease connect
[04:11] <timwizzy> least
[04:11] <LjL> timwizzy: it connects
[04:11] <timwizzy> really?
[04:11] <timwizzy> excelent
[04:11] <LjL> yes
[04:12] <timwizzy> it doesnt connect over here tho
[04:12] <timwizzy> its cause i'm through a router
[04:12] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2
[04:12] <ianmacgregor> LjL: How did you connect via ssh without a username and password?
[04:12] <timwizzy> cant forward ports
[04:12] <hastesaver_> timwizzy, I have/had that problem too; I can connect from outside but not from inside
[04:12] <timwizzy> true
[04:12] <timwizzy> thanks LjL
[04:12] <LjL> ianmacgregor, it doesn't take a username and a password to see that a service is up on the SSH port, and that it's actually an SSH server
[04:13] <timwizzy> ya thats all i needed
[04:13] <hastesaver_> Mad3Max3, are you sure whatever it is that you're compiling from source isn't in the repositories?
[04:13] <timwizzy> now to set up more servers
[04:13] <binfalse1> nc timtech.myftp.biz 22
[04:13] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Oh, ok. I just learned something
[04:13] <hastesaver_> Mad3Max3, because the easiest thing is to never install from source and always use packages... I've never needed to compile from source. Adding and removing stuff is easy.
[04:13] <binfalse1> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.1
[04:13] <LjL> timwizzy, if i can connect to you, then you probably have the relevant port *already* forwarded. otherwise i wouldn't be able to connect
[04:13] <timwizzy> yep thanks!
[04:13] <duPOLL> rarely has a dist-upgrade given me so many conflicts as dapper->edgyrc1
[04:13] <LjL> !edgy > duPOLL
[04:14] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, I have one src folder., the one I created for the alsa drivers,, was it that on u was refering to?
[04:14] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: gotta go now, i cannot help further
[04:14] <duPOLL> just a statement, LjL :p
[04:14] <HumanPrototype> binfalse1, you have been great, thanks for all the help
[04:14] <SubNet> Hi - does one of you use Xara?
[04:14] <Mad3Max3> hastesaver, the version of alsa in apt is 1.0.11 and that version wont detect my s-pdif
[04:15] <binfalse1> HumanPrototype: np
[04:15] <Mehercle> hi
[04:15] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: I am seeing that the sources for that are set up quite differently than most source tarballs.. but there is a ton of information in the INSTALL file. Have you read that file completely?
[04:15] <nmsa> !ices2
[04:15] <ubotu> ices2: Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 52 kB, installed size 244 kB
[04:16] <Mehercle> I'm running edgy, and the hibernate option is working very good
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> which ubuntu app would be best suited to making business cards
[04:16] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, nope.. I was in a hurry!
[04:16] <rmd_> Paddy_EIRE: OpenOffice?
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[04:17] <qzn> how to mount disc in live ubuntu 6.10 ? i need to edit fstab to remove primary slave. while booting it says it wasn't mounted properly, starts chkdsk ,prints load of buffering i/o errors and blocks, i have no idea how to fix it.
[04:17] <qzn> *it wasn't unmounted
[04:17] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: I understand your desire to get this running, but "in a hurry" can cause more problems. I feel that you should take your time with all compilation and read the files before tackling such a job.
[04:18] <Xyphosura> i tried to configure xsever-xorg; but now i get a unsupported video mode when gnome starts; how to acces the commandline before entering gnome; i am now using the 6.06 live cd8
[04:18] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, your probably right. but read a how-to about it and it said this is the way to do it..
[04:18] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Keep in mind that compiling on my system would likely be much different than compiling on your system.
[04:19] <LjL> !edgy > qzn
[04:19] <Xyphosura> help me i am desperate
[04:19] <K1765> kk got a question
[04:20] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, I was wondering thou... prior to compiling and make install.. do I have to remove the packages installed by apt.. or something?
[04:20] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, maybe the two versions collide or something..
[04:20] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Not sure, I haven't ever had to mess with drivers.. everything "just worked" on all my systems.
[04:21] <Xyphosura> I configured the xsever-xorg file; but now i get a unsupported video mode when gnome starts; how to acces the commandline before entering gnome; i am now using the 6.06 live cd; so i can undo  what i did
[04:21] <K1765> I burned ubuntu onto the disc, it loads up in to the "start or install ubuntu" menu , and I click it, and it says Error Boot CD, Disk error 80, AX=4280, Drive 9F
[04:21] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, the funny part is that Im a software developer in Windows.. and I can't get a simple compilation to work in linux :(
[04:22] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: That one is NOT a simple compliation ;)
[04:22] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, Well.. I had sound.. but I wanted to have sound from my s-pdif contact aswell.. so I could run it to my receiver
[04:22] <qz1> where can i get help for edgy ?
[04:22] <K1765> Anyone know whats wrong?
[04:22] <hastesaver_> Mad3Max3, IMO, if Linux doesn't detect your hardware, either give up on Linux or buy proper hardware. From experience, messing with drivers is always a mess :) (Sorry!)
[04:22] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, I can't even get it to dectedt my ditial soundcard.. only the analog part of it..
[04:22] <hastesaver_> qz1, #ubuntu+1
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> Xyphosura: have you tried ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[04:23] <Xyphosura> yes
[04:23] <K1765> I burned ubuntu onto the disc, it loads up in to the "start or install ubuntu" menu , and I click it, and it says Error Boot CD, Disk error 80, AX=4280, Drive 9F
[04:23] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Are you certain that app is compatible with your hardware?
[04:23] <K1765> what did I do wrong?
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> Xyphosura: then its not terminal ?
[04:23] <atom> whats the best media player for linux that you all use?
[04:23] <Mad3Max3> hastesaver, well.. it's common hardware Im using.. Nforce onboard stuff.. very common hardware.. so I should guess it will work if I get the install right
[04:23] <porkpie> guy's  I have a strange problem here .....ifconfig tell me the interfaces are up but I can ping them
[04:23] <HumanPrototype> atom, matter of opinion
[04:24] <atom> i dont like movie player
[04:24] <Xyphosura> it stops loading graphically; but still tries to start gnome
[04:24] <HumanPrototype> atom, try mplayer
[04:24] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Could be a corrupted download. Did you verify the md5sum before burning?
[04:24] <K1765> no i didnt lol
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Xyphosura: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:24] <ianmacgregor> K1765: ;)
[04:24] <porkpie> actually I can ping them from the local server but not from the out side
[04:24] <K1765> thats the 3rd time i dl'd ffs
[04:24] <mmcji> morning
[04:24] <atom> can u make vlc player go true full screen?
[04:24] <K1765> whats site for md5
[04:24] <qz1> how can i mount hdd using live ubuntu?
[04:24] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Are you using firefox for the download?
[04:24] <tristanmike> atom: "f" ?
[04:25] <K1765> yea i am ian
[04:25] <Xyphosura> i cant  acces the commandline to do that
[04:25] <atom> seems to have the tray and windows rows still there
[04:25] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Better to use wget or a download manager for that. What is the URL of the download?
[04:25] <tristanmike> atom: just don't move your mouse for a moment or two? doesn't that get rid of them ?
[04:25] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, the alsa driver u mean.. the 1.0.11 versionen worked and detected my soundcard.. I started messing with it because I wanted digital sound out.. from a digital output as s-pdif.. and from that s-pdif I was gonna use optical cable
[04:26] <K1765> http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/ubuntu/dapper/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[04:26] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, this beeing a new HTPC i've built..
[04:26] <mmcji> i need to connect to a proxy server from ubuntu.  Im looking for documentation on how to do this.  I have searched the community and ubuntu wiki, but have not yet seen instructions on how to do this.  anyone know the specific location section of documentation i can go to for this?  thanks in advance
[04:26] <hikenboot> anyone able to help with a rights issue with pam and /dev/nvidia*
[04:26] <hikenboot> no direct rendering possible
[04:27] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, thought it was a good way of learning linux installing a OS and installing drivers and such.. but I got more problems than I bargain for
[04:27] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Go to: http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/ubuntu/dapper/ and you will see the  MD5SUMS file. You need to download that and the ISO, then use the md5sum command to check the ISO after download and before burning.
[04:27] <Xyphosura> how can i access the commanline before gnome starts
[04:27] <assasukasse> hi all
[04:27] <assasukasse> does anyone use ubuntu with a laptop?
[04:27] <alessia> hi
[04:27] <alessia> I do
[04:27] <mmcji> yes
[04:27] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, at least the graphics drivers were a pieace of pancake to install..
[04:27] <alessia> I have an iBook G4
[04:28] <K1765> lol that was my last disc so o well :P wasted 4 already
[04:28] <mmcji> both on old ibm laptop and a p4 dell
[04:28] <Xyphosura>  I configured the xsever-xorg file; but now i get a unsupported video mode when gnome starts; how to acces the commandline before entering gnome; i am now using the 6.06 live cd; so i can undo  what i did
[04:28] <hastesaver_> Xyphosura, you mean before gdm (the login screen) starts, right?
[04:28] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Are you sure that driver supports "digital"?
[04:28] <Xyphosura> yes
[04:28] <Xyphosura> exactly
[04:28] <assasukasse> i am having problems on the switch from dapper to edgy..
[04:28] <mmcji> the ibm has only 128 of ram, but still runs will..good, no sound, but everything else works..had to use alt cd to install
[04:28] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, im having nightmares about getting my VFD display to work when I can't get a soundcard to work..
[04:28] <ianmacgregor> K1765: I have found that Firefox can corrupt downloads, so I find it best to use wget.
[04:29] <emav> @Xyphosura Ctrl+Alt+F1
[04:29] <assasukasse> in dapper my laptop could change the brightness no problem, and the hotkey worked..in eggy i am stuck with full brighness and no hotkey
[04:29] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, Yes.. it should support digital..
[04:29] <towolf> Got a disk crash. Anyone ever used reiserfsck --rebuild-sb? It too dangerous to use on the disk itself, right?
[04:29] <hastesaver_> Xyphosura, you can set gdm to not start automatically... update-rc.d gdm remove (or just comment out some things in /etc/init.d/gdm or somewhere)
[04:29] <Xyphosura> emav; that doesnt work; it still starts gdm when i do that
[04:29] <porkpie__> how do I set an interface to 100mb full duplex using the bnx2 driver
[04:30] <Rug> mmcji: that laptop is a great candidate for a slim DE like fluxbox
[04:30] <bug> does anyone know how to clear (or better yet, disable) the history in totem?
[04:30] <Xyphosura> hatesaver;  how do i do that; i cant acces the commandline
[04:30] <Clinton__> Good morning, how do I enable amarok to play .pls streams?
[04:30] <towolf> How do I rebuild my superblock "The Right Way"? I have an empty external HDD vailable.
[04:31] <hastesaver_> Xyphosura, so you currently are in a graphical screen? And you can't access the commandline either through Ctrl-Alt-F[1..6]  or starting a gnome-terminal?
[04:31] <alessia> I have a question about grub. When I turn on my laptop, I don't get the boot options anymore and it boots directly in mac OS X. I've tried putting the live CD back in and that gives me a boot option, and then opening a terminal and typing grub as a friend advised me, but my command isn't recognized
[04:31] <graveson> anyone can point to me on how do i create profiles for the sound juicer cd extracter software?
[04:31] <Xyphosura> i am currently in the live cd;
[04:32] <emav> @Xyphosura mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/linux; chroot /mnt/linux and you can use your broken system
[04:32] <tristanmike> graveson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[04:32] <Xyphosura> emav; thx
[04:32] <towolf> Please, anyone. My FS is broken. How do I proceed?
[04:33] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, but.. do I have to remove the old package with the sound drivers before installing via a complition. I have the old one installed in synaptic
[04:33] <tristanmike> graveson: you can also use "Help-Contents" from Sound Juice itself, but I found that page to better for me
[04:33] <atom> what movie formats are just not possible to play on linux?
[04:33] <tristanmike> atom: nothing that I can think of
[04:33] <bug> alessia, do what emav said and then do grub-install /dev/hda (may need to put a 1 after the hda)
[04:33] <tristanmike> atom: maybe wmv 10
[04:33] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: I don't know, I haven't ever messed with drivers
[04:34] <graveson> tristankmike: help is not that great,i am going to check out the website-thanks
[04:34] <tristanmike> graveson: yeah, that's what I thought about help too :P
[04:34] <Xyphosura> emav; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/linux doesnt work
[04:34] <alessia> bug: whenever I type grub in my terminal, it's like the command doesn't exist
[04:35] <bug> alessia, i don't think it does -- you need to do "grub-install /dev/hda" (although it may be /dev/hda1, try both)
[04:35] <atom> how can i get body text font size to increase? this pages body text is really small as an example:
[04:35] <atom> http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-81568.html
[04:35] <emav> @Xyphosura Substitute /dev/hda1 with the device your system resides on.
[04:35] <tristanmike> atom: firefox ?  crt+scroll wheel ?
[04:35] <emav> @Xyphosura Of course, if /mnt/linux doesn't exist you first have to mkdir /mnt/linux
[04:35] <mmcji> anyone know how to setup a proxy connection in ubuntu for internet access?
[04:36] <alessia> and that will install it? (grub)
[04:36] <Mad3Max3> ianmacgregor, the comfort is that If I get this to work. I will feel very happy about myself.. and that those VFD display drivers will be like a walk in the park :)
[04:36] <alessia> bug: do I need to be online to install it or is it already on my system?
[04:36] <atom> u rock tristan :)
[04:36] <bug> alessia, it *should* be in your system, but you'llhave to to run it as rooot
[04:36] <bug> alessia, as root, i mean
[04:37] <atom> whats the command to show all physical drives ?
[04:37] <Xyphosura> @emav; still doesnt wotk
[04:37] <tristanmike> atom: df -h ?
[04:37] <alessia> right
[04:37] <Clinton__> Good morning, how do I enable amarok to play .pls streams?
[04:37] <atom> htat shows dirs / mounts... whats the physical disk drive command?
[04:37] <emav> @Xyphosura What's the error message?
[04:38] <alessia> bug: well I'll boot into linux with the live CD if it works I'll let you know when I get back to my mac partition or figure out how to connect to the internet from linux
[04:38] <compengi> LjL, look at this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27672/
[04:38] <mmcji> df -h will you you human readable information
[04:38] <ianmacgregor> Mad3Max3: Yeah, satisfaction is very comforting. You might want to see if the author for that app has a mailing list or some other means of communication to get these working.
[04:38] <compengi> LjL, when i ran apt-get update it stated this error after it finished
[04:38] <atom> eg = if i have many drives that are unmounted and want to see them?
[04:38] <Xyphosura> @emav it think it works now
[04:39] <porkpie__> guy's I am using the bnx2 drivers and I want to set it to 100MB full duplex ...how do I do this
[04:39] <LjL> compengi, maybe the mirror is broken right now, perhaps try an european mirror (like fr.archive.ubuntu.com)
[04:39] <swanfl> hi folks. How do I contact the "ubuntu core development" team
[04:39] <compengi> LjL, oh, so nothing to worry about
[04:40] <LjL> compengi: maybe, maybe not. if your sources.list worked previously, and you didn't change it, it should only be a matter of broken mirrors.
[04:40] <exhale> damn apt-get autoremove is awesome
[04:41] <bug> is it possible to clear/disable the totem history? i can't find anything...
[04:41] <atom> whats it do?
[04:41] <Xyphosura> @emav when i do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original /etc/X11/xorg.conf it gives this error ; unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[04:41] <atom> lol dont want ur wife seeing ur porn?
[04:41] <ianmacgregor> compengi: http://archive.ubuntu.com works fine here
[04:41] <compengi> LjL, nope i changed it to install realplayer as given in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:41] <emav> @Xyphosura No need for sudo.
[04:41] <atom> realplayer? ick
[04:42] <ianmacgregor> emav: Yes, he does need sudo for that.. since it is a system dir
[04:42] <Xyphosura> @ ok it works now thanks a lot
[04:42] <emav> @ianmacgregor It's mounted now... no need for sudo.
[04:42] <Xyphosura> @ i hope its gone now
[04:43] <emav> @Xyphosura Keep your fingers crossed.
[04:43] <atom> someone should port dvd decrypter to linux
[04:43] <compengi> !source list
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <ianmacgregor> emav: Oh, he mounted it and then changed ownership/perms on the mountpoint? ok
[04:43] <LjL> compengi: pastebin your current one
[04:44] <Xyphosura> ok restarting now
[04:44] <swanfl> does anyone have the same problem with firefox I'm having? I'm using edgy and when I launch Firefox and try to go to preferences, the program crashes
[04:44] <ianmacgregor> swanfl: Might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <mmcji> anyone have a isp that requires a proxy setup?  if so, how did you set this up in ubuntu?
[04:45] <compengi> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27673/
[04:45] <FOAD> Hey, since moving to Edgy my LaserJet 1100 printer stopped working.  I'm trying to understand cups but, well, I don't.  Can anyone help?
[04:46] <GreyGhost> when is Edgy planned for release?
[04:46] <ianmacgregor> The 26th
[04:46] <compengi> GreyGhost, 26th
[04:46] <moot> 11clear
[04:46] <moot> /quit
[04:46] <GreyGhost> cool !!! :)
[04:47] <FOAD> Not for my printer.
[04:47] <tamale> hey all.. how can I change my mouse sensitivity if I don't have gnome?
[04:47] <LjL> compengi, i don't know if the unofficial repos you added are correct, but the errors you're getting don't seem to be related to them. and the rest looks correct.
[04:47] <ianmacgregor> !away > antoxz
[04:48] <Lobster> tamale somewhere in the xorgconfig
[04:48] <tamale> that's what i figured lobster.. thanks.
[04:48] <Lobster> :)
[04:48] <antoxz> ianmacgregor, got it. 10x.
[04:48] <Lobster> I am lookin atm :)
[04:48] <tamale> does anyone know if you can get ati drivers for a mobility radeon X1600 working in ubuntu 64?
[04:48] <Xyphosura> @emav: it works! just wanted to say that
[04:49] <tamale> I just tried and when I rebooted GDM didn't even come up
[04:49] <compengi> LjL, also i was downloading skype an error came out saying Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/skype-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb  Could not resolve 'download.skype.com'E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[04:49] <emav> @Xyphosura Good! :)
[04:49] <tamale> compengi:  that just means your networking isn't working yet :}
[04:49] <Xyphosura> @emav thanks again and goodbye
[04:49] <LjL> compengi, don't know about skype. but the "download.skype.com" site does exist, although the index page is an HTTP redirect
[04:49] <emav> @Xyphosura Bye
[04:50] <mmcji> hmm, im finding some stuff about Gconf editor
[04:50] <compengi> LjL, i see so maybe something with my connection
[04:50] <LjL> compengi: are you behind a home router?
[04:51] <compengi> LjL, yes, but i didn't get any errors like that
[04:52] <bug> atom: (slow reaction, i know..) nah, i just hat when you can't easily clear stuff out.. it makes things look messy
[04:52] <LjL> compengi, some routers have a DNS relay server built-in that is sort of broken -- i.e. it goes crazy when it sees too many DNS requests at a time. apt-get does that.
[04:52] <Daniel-56> guys i have a big problem
[04:52] <XTREME06> hallo
[04:52] <Daniel-56> I am trying to play ET and Americasarmy on my dads computer but its soo slow
[04:53] <B-Minus> can I give in a parameter in konquerer to tell it what view-profile it needs to load at startup ?
[04:53] <Daniel-56> he has a 1.1ghz 768ram and a 6200 Agp 256
[04:53] <halfsusi> lsdldoom: symbol lookup error: lsdldoom: undefined symbol: open_music
[04:53] <halfsusi> is there a fix for that?
[04:53] <bug> Daniel-56, there's no way that's too slow. i can play et on my 800mhz p3 with 64 mb geforce2mx... maybe you don't have the nvidia glx thing installed?
[04:54] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: you still use doom legacy?
[04:54] <Daniel-56> its says it installed
[04:54] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: What should I use?
[04:55] <Sonderblade> i get GPG error when running apt-get update, anyone know how to fix it?
[04:55] <compengi> LjL, my connection il lame now
[04:55] <Daniel-56> it works fine on my comp ..Amd X2 3880+,1Gb Ram and a 6600GT
[04:55] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: im using the doomsday engine, and doom 2 looks so good in it
[04:55] <mmcji> i think i found what i was looking for on my proxy question
[04:55] <mmcji> got another one
[04:55] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: Multiplayer is broken with 1.9.0-beta4
[04:55] <kaur> my laptops fan is almost always on. acpi -t gives 49-50 c I suspect that one core is overloaded and my wireless card ipw3945 is causing this. What should i do to avoid the overheating and still be able to use wifi?
[04:55] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: try typing deng in synaptic ;)
[04:55] <mmcji> is the kernel source avail on the alternate install cd for 6.0.6?
[04:56] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: Doomsday is useless for my purposes now that it is broken
[04:56] <LjL> mmcji: don't think so
[04:56] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: oh...
[04:56] <Daniel-56> My dad not here and its supposd to be a surprise
[04:57] <Daniel-56> i am going on my comp as SAM_theman ok
[04:57] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: So, in fact, I need the prettiest and easiest to use sourceport with a working multiplayer
[04:57] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: but there are like hundreds of other ports out there, doom legacy is kind of old, and the most recent linux compile sound system doesnt work
[04:57] <mmcji> LjL:  yup, i just found the source directory..it was empty. nada, nothing in there...foowee
[04:58] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: Like what? prboom does not work with opengl in this machine. Or how does one enable opengl in it?
[04:58] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: you can still use doomlegacy, without sound and play multi there
[04:58] <LjL> mmcji: well, a CD has limited space on it, and the Desktop CD does contain quite a few packages already...
[04:58] <Negative_Infinit> i havent been in doom matches lately
[04:59] <Mad3Max3> Anyone that are well traveled in the world of alsa-drivers and installing non packages drivers for it..
[04:59] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: What I am trying to do is to have my kid brother and his visiting cousin playing co-op
[04:59] <whomever> has anyone here with a linksys wireless card figured out how to get it up off its ass?
[04:59] <Negative_Infinit> hmm... aside from playing the game in windows, you could try to disable the sounds, i did that once, but, wait... lemme check the forums again for that...
[05:00] <halfsusi> Negative_Infinit: This machine has no windows, the other machine has only windows
[05:00] <Negative_Infinit> http://forums.newdoom.com/showthread.php?s=b3c0c11f84e7c56375839055715778f7&t=31648
[05:02] <mmcji> would this be the source for dapper
[05:02] <mmcji> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/
[05:02] <Vuen> hey guys, i keep getting mail from /etc/cron.daily/man.db that says:
[05:02] <Negative_Infinit> halfsusi: i forgot the keyword for disabling the sounds, anyway, you can try typing something like gldoom --help and then run the game with the no sound option
[05:02] <Vuen> mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[05:02] <Vuen> mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/vncconfig.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[05:02] <Vuen> anyone know what's up?
[05:02] <ianmacgregor> mmcji: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/
[05:03] <MouseJstr> If I was hoping for a new pre-built kernel variant, should I just add a note to the effect in the EdgyIdeas/Kernel wiki page?
[05:04] <kaur> does anyone have any ideas about:https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/48395 ?
[05:06] <atom> whats the program to use for msn messager type for x64 ? theres no skype x64 ?
[05:07] <Toma-> atom: amsn
[05:07] <paylo> Free unreleased exe packer (NO VIRUS SCANNER DETECTS IT YET) @ http://www.vertex-hosting.net/?x=../index
[05:07] <rao> use aMSN
[05:07] <atom> cool thnx
[05:08] <rao> thnx Tona@help /atom
[05:08] <Mad3Max3> alsa drivers should be shot and then burnt.. and put into cement to never rise again...
[05:08] <Toma-> paylo: u r a bot?
[05:08] <paylo> no
[05:08] <paylo> definetly not
[05:08] <paylo> okay?
[05:08] <Toma-> !ops
[05:08] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:09] <Toma-> paylo: well, you have a virus.
[05:09] <Toma-> cya paylo
[05:09] <rao> atom: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[05:09] <atom> installed already from reposites :)
[05:09] <atom> so easy installing stuff. is it this easy in true debian?
[05:10] <Subhuman> atom, identical
[05:10] <Ekinoks> aMSN is in Synaptic no ?
[05:10] <atom> yup
[05:10] <rao> aMSN has features not present in MSN Messenger
[05:11] <Toma-> atom: id get amsn from the amsn website. straight upgrade of a deb package and includes webcam fun
[05:11] <jenda> how can I convert a ton of plaintext from CP-1250 to UTF-8?
[05:11] <ianmacgregor> hahaha.. paylo was K-lined.. I love it when children get K-lined.
[05:11] <Jared> Okay, I am expierencing some problems with my ubuntu right now, and want to reinstall. It seems that I have lost my dapper cd, would it be better to download the iso and burn to cd and install it, or would it be easier to just  install an older version i already have, then upgrade via sudo apt-get upgrade?
[05:11] <Negative_Infinit> ianmcgergor: what exactly is K-line?
[05:11] <jenda> Negative_Infinit: network ban
[05:11] <Jared> never mind
[05:11] <Jared> i just had ....a moment
[05:11] <ianmacgregor> Negative_Infinit: Banned from freenode :)
[05:11] <binfalse1> jenda: man iconv
[05:12] <mmcji> actually, i guess im looking for kernel source for 2.6.15-27-386....
[05:12] <Taloas> morning/evening...whichever it is in your neighborhood
[05:13] <asterisk_> I'm new to linux....how do I dual boot ubuntu and windows?
[05:13] <sketchykrew> Hi all...been having a weird problem while installing ubuntu, I get to the "keyboard layout" step on the livecd install, and when I type a single letter into the text box to try out the layout, it acts like I hit that key about 30 times...nothaving any luck finding a solution...any pointers?
[05:14] <TheUni> asterisk_: you'll need to install windows first, then ubuntu, then configure grub.
[05:14] <tamale> sketchykrew: I HAVE THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM
[05:14] <asterisk_> do I need to partition the hd?
[05:14] <TheUni> yea
[05:14] <rao> <asterisk: what is ur architecture ?
[05:14] <mmcji> yes
[05:14] <mmcji> firs partition
[05:14] <nn> so..
[05:14] <mmcji> then install windows
[05:14] <nn> Fatal server error:
[05:14] <nn> could not open default cursor font 'cursor'
[05:14] <sketchykrew> tamale: any luck finding a solution?
[05:14] <mmcji> then install ubuntu
[05:14] <tamale> sketchykrew: No one knows about this.. they all think I'm nuts.
[05:14] <nn> :(
[05:14] <asterisk_> what do you mean?
[05:14] <mmcji> ubuntu will config grub for you
[05:14] <tamale> sketchykrew: Is your computer a toshiba laptop by any chance?
[05:15] <sketchykrew> tamale: great....sheesh
[05:15] <phase_10> Edgy installer fails when  installing on extended partition, workaround available?
[05:15] <mmcji> reboot and you should be ok
[05:15] <sketchykrew> tamale: nope. A desktop with a cyrix (!) 6x86.
[05:15] <asterisk_> I don't know how to partition...
[05:15] <Daniel-56> k i got it worl
[05:15] <Taloas> theres a video on it at google video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[05:15] <mmcji> i ahve this laptop installed with xp, dsl and ubuntu
[05:15] <tamale> sketchykrew: what kind of keyboard?
[05:15] <mmcji> o
[05:15] <Daniel-56> bug, I got it to wrok on his comp .. :P
[05:15] <sketchykrew> tamale: one off an old compaq, has worked fine on everything except for this install.
[05:15] <mmcji> you can download gparted
[05:15] <bug> Daniel-56, good! what'd you have to do? was it the nvidia-glx?
[05:15] <Daniel-56> bug, because i thought my dads comp was as fast as mine so i tweaked the nvidia settings
[05:16] <Daniel-56> thats was it was so slow
[05:16] <mmcji> burn the iso, that has a graphical interface you might find easier than fdisk
[05:16] <bug> bug, ah... was it aa/fsaa-ing everything?
[05:16] <bug> oops ha
[05:16] <bug> Daniel-56, what i just said to myself was to you
[05:16] <jenda> binfalse1: thanks... but how do I know how to call cp-1250 properly? it says it's not supported as cp-1250
[05:16] <Daniel-56> k
[05:16] <nn> So.. i had to do a server of hoary because newer kernels do not work on my machine (because of my megaraid controller).. now i can't get SMP kernel of same version (2.6.12) working because i get Segfaults in the initrd.... Anything newer than 2.6.12, it freaks out on the megaraid controller and none of my drives come up, ideas?
[05:16] <Mad3Max3> Where are all the people knowing all there is to now about getting driver to work in linux.. are they all hiding?
[05:17] <tamale> sketchykrew: I wish I had some advice.  All i know is mine worked fine in Breezy for a while, but then after an update one day this started happening to me
[05:17] <phase_10> Edgy installer fails when  installing on extended partition, workaround available?
[05:17] <rao> <asterisk: using NTLDR http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php
[05:17] <bug> Daniel-56, what did you have to change?
[05:17] <Daniel-56> buggy u have msn?
[05:17] <sketchykrew> this computer doesn't want to run anything linux. tried putting another distro on it, it pitched on the install trying to extract a package. i try ubuntu, it does this...grrrrr
[05:17] <nn> I really don't like the idea of using windows on this lovely machine.. especially because then i can't use it as my outer-edge server
[05:17] <binfalse1> jenda: CP1250
[05:17] <Daniel-56> bug, I had to change from the "nvidia-settings" to Hardware defalut
[05:18] <mmcji> asterisk: there is lots of stuff all of do  not know how to do.  Just look at it as an adventure..  Linux is very enjoyable if you dive into it
[05:18] <TheUni> does edgy include the fix for the recent nvidia driver exploit?
[05:18] <CSWookie> Is there no package for gnucash?
[05:18] <binfalse1> jenda: or WINDOWS-1250
[05:18] <tamale> sketchykrew: I'm sure there's a fix though, since it didn't start doing this until AFTER a certain point in the dapper upgrade
[05:18] <tamale> s
[05:18] <Daniel-56> On my computer all my nvidia settings are set on highest maxed out :P
[05:18] <Mad3Max3> a windows installation is getting closer by the minute.. :(
[05:18] <Daniel-56> even on my games
[05:18] <tamale> sketchykrew: if you find a fix, please e-mail me at UICTamale@gmail.com  :)
[05:18] <bug> Daniel-56, ah.. makes sense..  and nope. don't have msn
[05:18] <rao> gnucash is itself package
[05:18] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 maybe you would be better off that way
[05:18] <sketchykrew> tamale: sure thing
[05:18] <Taloas> omfg this dual boot video is funny...i never actually watched the whole thing
[05:18] <bug> Mad3Max3, what's the hardware that you're having trouble with?
[05:19] <Daniel-56> bad bug'
[05:19] <CSWookie> rao: Hmm.  Then how come apt-cache won't find it?  *pokes about*
[05:19] <nn> jbmigel: sadly, i'm fearing thats the only thing im going to be able to do on this machine as well.. I really dont want another doze box
 what exactly u want to do in accounting
[05:19] <bug> Taloas, what video?
[05:19] <CSWookie> rao: I want to keep my books.
[05:19] <asterisk_> Where do I find what soundcard I have?  I need a driver for sound.  I just got this comp used
[05:19] <chinook> Which programs should I take on Ubuntu to make animation short films in (to later export into QT or DIVX-format??)
[05:19] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, well.. I like ubuntu.,. but if I can't get drivers for soundcard to work and no one that knows anything about soundcards im kinda stuck
[05:20] <kaur> does anyone have any ideas about:https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/48395 ?
[05:20] <rao> right n u want to stick with gnucash
[05:20] <Mad3Max3> bug, alsa drivers for my onboard soundcard
[05:20] <CSWookie> rao: Yes.
[05:20] <bug> Mad3Max3, do you know the chipset?
[05:20] <CSWookie> rao: But it appears there is no package for it.
[05:20] <chinook> I first thoguht about GImp-GAP but I'm afraid it is more for simple gif-animations with not so many fps possible
[05:20] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 what kind of soundcard?
[05:20] <rao> gnucash often comes with linux distro
[05:21] <Mad3Max3> bug, it's the one in nforce 430 chipset.. ALC880 i think
[05:21] <CSWookie> rao: Well, it didn' come with this one, because I can't run the program.
[05:21] <klm-> .mov -files are showing very saturated on my mplayer. any solution?
[05:21] <rao> which distro r u using
[05:21] <Will> hey peeps
[05:22] <Will> how much does disk space does ubuntu 5.10 take up without the swap partition?
[05:22] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, just a ordinary soundcard.. got sound at start but wanted the digital outputs to work,, and the current alsa-drivers couldn't find my s-pdif
[05:22] <SAM_theman> bug, I am on my comp
[05:23] <SAM_theman> bug, I am the son od Daniel-56
[05:23] <chinook> Which programs are good for making animation films out of camera-pix???
[05:23] <rao> CSwookie GnuCash is part of the GNOME desktop environment
[05:23] <SAM_theman> *of
[05:23] <h00t> hello ... how can i put shortcut to my ~ on the desktop
[05:23] <cablesm102> A question: Is Edgy meant for general consumption, or is it more of a bleeding-edge beta-ful release?
[05:23] <Will> how much does disk space does ubuntu 5.10 take up without the swap partition?
[05:23] <VanessaE> will: about 2-3 gigs for a full install of everything, including all the software you'd normally use
[05:23] <bug> Mad3Max3, : go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36870&page=3     for the solution
[05:23] <VanessaE> (like gimp, office, etc)
[05:23] <SAM_theman> h00t, umm...
[05:23] <Will> bugger
[05:23] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 that sounds like a fun problem. let me look into it a bit
[05:23] <VanessaE> you can strip it down though
[05:23] <SAM_theman> h00t, right click on your desktop add shortcut...
[05:23] <VanessaE> just depends on what software you need to run
[05:23] <Jeruvy> Will, my install is under 1GB.
[05:23] <Will> 0.o
[05:23] <w1w1t0m1> hello, I use fluxbox, xterm and firefox; sometimes copying text by selecting it in xterm and then paste into firefox doesn't work at first trial ...any ideas? (I use it to copy links from centericq)
[05:23] <h00t> shortcut to my home dir like /home/h00t
[05:23] <Will> how?
[05:23] <SAM_theman> h00t, well..launcher
[05:23] <SAM_theman> o
[05:23] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, and having digital output is excential part for me since this comp is a htpc
[05:24] <h00t> ... yeah... where is that ... i know you have to "check" something
[05:24] <atom> is vmware supported by reposit?
[05:24] <ianmacgregor> w1w1t0m1: highlight+middleclick?
[05:24] <SAM_theman> atom, i think so
[05:24] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 what application are you trying to pipe the sound out of? like mplayer?
[05:24] <CSWookie> rao: I know.  However, shouldn't it show up when I say apt-cache search gnucash?
[05:24] <SAM_theman> atom, i used to use vmware
[05:24] <Will> does anyone know where i can get a turtial on how to dual boot xp with ubuntu?
[05:24] <h00t> it's like an "option" not just regular shortcut
[05:24] <atom> wine better?
[05:24] <h00t> Will, google dude... tons of em
[05:24] <w1w1t0m1> ianmacgregor:yes
[05:24] <CSWookie> rao: I don't want to just be blindly instally GNOME stuff hoping that I accidentally get gnucash.
[05:24] <hikenboot> hello all---back again..nvidia 3d render works as root but not as a normal user...anyone at all with an idea where I could go for help with this issue?
[05:24] <Will> i guess i shal
[05:24] <Daniel-56> atom, nah
[05:24] <DeJaMo> Will I have seen many online try googling
[05:24] <Daniel-56> atom, but try wine if u dear
[05:25] <h00t> Will,  install win2k first and ubuntu will add it to boot menu
[05:25] <bug> SAM_theman, check the private/direct irc window
[05:25] <Will> kk
[05:25] <h00t> Will, automatically
[05:25] <h00t> Win .. won't do that for you thought
[05:25] <hastesaver> Mad3Max3, try the forums. People who are asleep now might read it sometime.
[05:25] <rao> u want to update gnucash?
[05:25] <chinook> Animation Films in Ubuntu: What software could I use for better animations than simple gif-animations (like 20 fps-animations)
[05:25] <SAM_theman> how i do that?
[05:25] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, well.. first of I wanted to get the spdif found by alsa.. since it didn't detect it... thought it might be a version problem .. so I downloaded the newest from alsa homepage. 1.0.13 and installed them via a compile..
[05:25] <h00t> SAM_theman, ... so where is the launcher
[05:25] <Zaggynl> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281569
[05:25] <klm-> .mov -files are showing very 'solarized' on my mplayer. any solution?
[05:26] <bug> gnucash is a package in universe
[05:26] <hastesaver> Will, yes, easiest way is to install Windows first, leaving some free space. And then tell Ubuntu to use the free space. It will automatically set up a dualboot
[05:26] <CSWookie> rao: NO.  I want to install it.  There is no package for it?
[05:26] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, now my soundcard isn't detected at all.. from having sound on the headphone jacks to nothing...
[05:27] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, aplay -l say no sundcard found..
[05:27] <bug> CSWookie, enable the universe repository and it's in there.. just need to do a normal apt-get install gnucash
[05:27] <cablesm102> Will, you can defrag your windows drive, then using the manual partitioner in the Ubuntu installer, shrink that partition and make a new partition for ubuntu to use
[05:27] <SAM_theman> h00t, go into your terminal and type "sudo -s"
[05:27] <rao> server:  irc.gnome.org
[05:27] <rao> channel: #gnucash
[05:27] <CSWookie> bug: How does that work?
[05:27] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 sounds like you may have broken your sound.. did your install of new alsa go unerrored?
[05:27] <rao> server:  irc.gnome.org channel: #gnucash
[05:27] <SAM_theman> h00t, then type your pss then type nautilus /home
[05:27] <CSWookie> bug: What is the "universe" stuff I hear about?
[05:27] <pale_horse> anyone have any experience with the ATI modem chipset in the compaq v2400 series ?
[05:28] <SAM_theman> h00t, then copy your home folder to your desktop'
[05:28] <SAM_theman> COPY
[05:28] <SAM_theman> not drag
[05:28] <h00t> OK .. got it thatx
[05:28] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, yes.. it went without errors..
[05:28] <rao> i prefer i prefer TurboCASH over gnucash
[05:29] <CSWookie> rao: Different strokes, I guess.
[05:29] <CSWookie> How do I enable "universe"?
[05:29] <rao> yes :)
[05:29] <CSWookie> And why do I have to?
[05:29] <hastesaver> !universe
[05:29] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:29] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, I've tested many things now.. I even uninstalled them with .. make uninstall
[05:29] <rao> gtg
[05:30] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 the alsa-base package docs talk about creating a new package with make-kpkg when building from source... did you do that?
[05:30] <h00t> hey SAM_theman you wanna know something
[05:30] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, was wondering if I need to remove the alsa-base package in synaptic first before installing the newest drivers,, maybe it was that, that screwed things up that I had the old drivers installed
[05:31] <SAM_theman> h00t, yo
[05:31] <SAM_theman> h00t, I am The Man ::P
[05:31] <SAM_theman> wait didn't work
[05:32] <CSWookie> Thanks folks.
[05:32] <bimbim> hola
[05:32] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, well.. no. I followed a how-to.. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[05:32] <bimbim> alguien me leee
[05:32] <SAM_theman> h00t, I am sorry dude I mean this way
[05:32] <h00t> SAM_theman, the proper way to do it (just figured it out) is to Enable "configuration editor" in "system tools" w/ "Alacarte Menu Editor"  ... then in config manager you just go to  /apps/nautilus/desktop ... and check enable home icon visible
[05:32] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, go down to the part with using drivers from alsa-project
[05:33] <SAM_theman> h00t, no go in your termianl as the user and type gconf-editor
[05:33] <h00t> it won't enable in the menu though
[05:33] <atom> smbmount //LA'MARA/1 /mnt/win98  - this the correct syntax to mount a shared folder ? no errors but doesnt seem to werk.
[05:33] <SAM_theman> h00t, then a window pops up go to where it says apps
[05:33] <SAM_theman> h00t, then go down and look for nautilus
[05:33] <tobywuk> what is Gdesklets?
[05:34] <SAM_theman> h00t, then go to desktop and check 'home_icon_visible"
[05:34] <h00t> same thing ... i prefer to have it in the menu instead of launching terminal all the time
[05:34] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, wel it said.. 1.0.12 drivers.. but I thought that the newest ones might do the trick better.. so I installed 1.0.13
[05:34] <h00t> but ... yeah... you are the man
[05:34] <hastesaver> tobywuk, it's little programs on your desktop... like Mac OS X's "Dashboard widgets", if you've heard of them
[05:34] <binfalse1> atom: try the ip address of LA'MARA instead
[05:34] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 do you know the name you used to add your soundcard to modprobe?
[05:35] <tobywuk> ah ok. i have the gdesklets shell application installed. it says i need to download these widgets. where do i get them from?
[05:35] <kjaer> Hey guys, I am doing a dist-upgrade but I get the following error message:
[05:35] <kjaer> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[05:35] <kjaer>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdns_sd.so.1', which is also in package bonjour
[05:35] <kjaer> How do I solve this ?
[05:35] <aquarius> I've got a PDF document that I'd like to print so that I can fold up and staple the printed pages into a book. (I'm happy to print on one side of the paper and then put the paper back through the printer to print on the other side.) Can I do that?
[05:35] <kjaer> I can't uninstall bonjour.
[05:35] <h00t> SAM_theman, do you know how to cleanly install Firefox 2.0 latest RC
[05:35] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, but not knowing about linux i ponder about.. does drivers has to match the exact linux kerne? maybe the 1.0.13 dosn't support the ubuntu kernel or something. how do I check that?
[05:36] <h00t> it's not in the depository yet ... is it
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, got a code from here.. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Nvidia#matrix
[05:36] <tobywuk> hastesaver, where can i download these widgets from?
[05:36] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, since I have a nforce mobo.. I thougt that would be the one to go with
[05:36] <pc22> does singshot.com work in ubuntu?
[05:36] <hastesaver> tobywuk, first install the package gdesklets (through synaptic/aptitude/adept/apt-get/whatever you use)
[05:37] <tobywuk> done that :)
[05:37] <SAM_theman> h00t, umm first you willing to remove the current ubutnu version of FF?
[05:37] <hastesaver> tobywuk, and gdesklets-data
[05:37] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 I think if your driver/kernel combination was not compatible it would have errored when you built the module. Did you add your new module with MODPROBE?
[05:37] <jenda> How can I replace all spaces in a document with newlines?
[05:37] <tobywuk> so whats sudo apt-get install gdesklets-data?
[05:38] <hastesaver> tobywuk, yes
[05:38] <tobywuk> ok then what?
[05:38] <SAM_theman> h00t, then again you taking that risk?
[05:38] <jenda> nevermind :)
[05:39] <tobywuk> hastesaver, done that. now what?
[05:39] <SAM_theman> h00t, there is no need for the rc2-3 versions yet wait till the Ubuntu urepositories come out with their version
[05:39] <nn> So.. today I must fix X and it's "can't find 'cursor' font", SMP, and maybe get megaraid on a newer kernel than 2.6.12
[05:39] <hastesaver> tobywuk, now start gdesklets, you should see a bunch of desklets available already
[05:39] <tobywuk> o yeah :)
[05:39] <h00t> SAM_theman, i like to live on the edge... (still won't install Gentoo though)
[05:40] <tamale> where can i get some more download urls to try for edgy?  the official one looks like it's capped at 555KB/s
[05:40] <hastesaver> tobywuk, there are more available, but the gdesklets site seems to be down now :-( Feel free to learn Python and contribute your own ;-)
[05:40] <hastesaver> tamale, torrents?
[05:40] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, jupp, sudo modprbe snd-intel8x0
[05:41] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 and that ran successfully?
[05:41] <SAM_theman> gentoo is works of Satan
[05:41] <tamale> hastesaver:  I can't unblock the ports on the routers I'm behind.. torrents go at 3 KB/s if i'm LUCKY
[05:41] <SAM_theman> :P
[05:41] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, nothing happend when doing that.. so I guess it did
[05:41] <SAM_theman> ask the bot
[05:41] <cyber> gentoo rox
[05:41] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 then you added intel8x0 to /etc/modules?
[05:41] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, it just did a newline
[05:41] <tobywuk> hehe :)
[05:41] <SAM_theman> ubotu, firefox
[05:41] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:42] <hastesaver> tamale, then be happy with 555 kB/s; it's quite fast (I have a 256 kbps = 32 kB/s connection, so my opinion might not matter to you) :-)
[05:42] <tobywuk> hastesaver,  how do i get the MaxOsx style icon toolbar on the desktop?
[05:42] <SAM_theman> h00t, go here http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/07/15/howto-install-firefox-20-bon-echo-in-ubuntu/
[05:42] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, well since it didn't work after doing the modprobe.. with my spdif I mean.. I didn't do that..
[05:42] <tamale> haste:  I'm just in a hurry :)
[05:42] <nn> How do i remove every trace of X?
[05:42] <nn> I need to reinstall all that stuff cuz it's broke ;(
[05:42] <hastesaver> tobywuk, the dock or whatever? One of the desklets does that; I don't remember which one now (and I'm using KDE, besides)
[05:42] <hastesaver> tobywuk, try every one :)
[05:42] <tobywuk> ok thanks :)
[05:43] <nn> bbl, redoing my RAID
[05:43] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, since it didn't see if the new drivers installed. when running alsa-mixer the old version was still up in the menu
[05:43] <Liorithiel> aquarius, you can use pstools to do that, but you'll have to learn some dark console magic...
[05:44] <aquarius> Liorithiel: ah, OK. I was hoping I could use the gnome print window to do it...
[05:44] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, but if that version number is for the alsa-mixer or the drivers I don't know.. someone here told me it was the driver version but im not so sure.
[05:44] <Ademan> why do my gnome-panels keep dissapearing with beryl? after a few restarts they come in right, but untill that... they don't
[05:44] <h00t> SAM_theman, nice ... worked like a charm ... the only thing is that you have to replace RC2 w/ RC3 if you want the latest
[05:45] <Lam_> how do i access the local java docs (i have Java JDK installed)
[05:45] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 what makes you think that your not running the new driver and the spdif is still just not supported?
[05:45] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, u said someting about when compiling from source I had to use make-kpkg.. is that whats messing things up
[05:46] <ianmacgregor> Lam_: Have a look in /usr/share/doc
[05:46] <Liorithiel> aquarius, something like `psbook <file.ps | psnup -2 | psselect -o >odd.ps` for odd pages and -e instead of -o for even pages would do the thing (you have to convert your data to postscript earlier)
[05:46] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, well.. s-pdif should be supported in the new drivers.. so I read from the release
[05:46] <Liorithiel> aquarius, you can always file a bug in gnome-print-manager ;-)
[05:47] <Lam_> ianmacgregor: it looks like i don't have them installed despite the fact i have the JDK. i'll go get them from Sun then.  thanks a lot
[05:47] <tomasz> siema
[05:47] <ianmacgregor> Lam_: You're welcome :)
[05:47] <tomasz> yes :)
[05:48] <Liorithiel> aquarius, ah, one thing... if you use gutenprint/gimpprint drivers for your printer, you'll have to convert the result into pdf, then print - pstools have some old bugs which make their output not understandable by these drivers
[05:48] <atom> do i need to install some package to use the smbmount command?
[05:48] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 there is a gnome-alsamixer package... could work better?
[05:48] <atom> saying command not found
[05:48] <hastesaver> Lam_, no, install sun-java5-doc
[05:48] <hastesaver> Lam_, from the repos :)
[05:49] <justin__> Hello, I need guidance. I've got mobo with a ATI Radeon Xpress 200 integrated video adapter and an NVidia GeForce 5200fx PCI card. Since the ATI is a better adapter, I'd prefer to use that for my main monitor and use the nvidia for the 2nd monitor. How do I do this?
[05:49] <cyber> hi, I"m trying to set alsa on kubuntu , lspci: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start >> 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_st[ ok ] 36: No soundcards found...'...
[05:49] <hastesaver> Lam_, sorry, I was wrong. You'll have to get it from Sun's site. Sorry
[05:49] <binfalse1> atom: i think the package is smbfs
[05:49] <atom> thnx
[05:49] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, I tried that one..
[05:50] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 your new driver shows up in "modprobe -l | grep snd-"?
[05:51] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 also "dmesg" may provide some insight
[05:52] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, modprobe -l | grep snd- tells shows me acouple of files for the alsa drivers...
[05:52] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[05:53] <alvaro> hi anyone knows how i must set the xorg.conf file to have two monitors?
[05:53] <quakenul> hello
[05:53] <jenda> how can I convert to text from prc?
[05:55] <quakenul> "sudo source" doesn't seem to work anymore with edgy eft but ipkungfu seems to need that
[05:55] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, don't know if I got an answer for this.. but do I have to remove the alsa-base drivers intalled in synaptic before installing new ones with make intstall?
[05:55] <quakenul> can anyone tell me how to modify sudoers to make that work?
[05:55] <hastesaver> jenda, what's prc, btw?
[05:56] <LiraNuna> quakenul, hold on
[05:56] <jenda> hastesaver: palm text format
[05:56] <quakenul> happy so LiraNuna
[05:56] <elias_> is either gamin or fam part of ubuntu-desktop?
[05:56] <LiraNuna> jenda, .prc isn't a text format
[05:56] <elias_> which one?
[05:56] <LiraNuna> quakenul, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_allow_more_sudoers
[05:57] <jenda> LiraNuna: what is it, then?
[05:57] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 Im not really sure, If you remove alsa-base it will take your ubuntu-desktop with it lets keep looking for a way to remove the old driver from being loaded
[05:57] <LiraNuna> jenda, it's a Palm executable
[05:57] <LiraNuna> like window's .exe
[05:57] <jenda> LiraNuna: OK, I have a book in it :)
[05:57] <LiraNuna> jenda, about what?
[05:57] <LiraNuna> how to create a .prc? lol
[05:57] <LiraNuna> aka Palm API Coding manual
[05:58] <jenda> LiraNuna: ok, then how do I convert from .pdb?
[05:58] <LiraNuna> jenda, PDB has a header
[05:58] <jenda> No, it's just a random book - I need a sample text for frequency analysis :)
[05:58] <LiraNuna> i forgot it's size
[05:58] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 you could try dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[05:58] <LiraNuna> PDB is:
[05:58] <quakenul> LiraNuna actually when i said sudoers i meant /etc/sudoers, sorry for the confusion
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[05:58] <atom> trying to figure out ping for ubuntu... ping localhost in command line does nothing
[05:59] <jenda> LiraNuna: ok... and how do I get my book :)
[05:59] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, yes. I did that one time.. removed all... linux-sounds-base ,alsa-base and alsa-utils.. it made gnome not start.. so I had to reinstall them.. sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <LiraNuna> jenda, try hexdump -C filename.pdb
[05:59] <LiraNuna> and paste it here: http://rafb.net/paste/
[06:00] <LiraNuna> then give me the address
[06:00] <French> Is their a wine support Channel i can Connect to that people know off?
[06:00] <French> there
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> what moderboard think yours i need to buy? msi or asus? for Intel P4 531 (3.0GHz/1MB/800MHz) (s775) BOX
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[06:00] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 I think you will need to replace alsa-base and alsa-utils aswell, then rebuild your driver from source
[06:00] <jenda> LiraNuna: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PLWxV355.html It's just a bit.
[06:00] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel.. says alsa-base not installed.. lol.. I forgot that I removed them with make uninstall
[06:01] <LiraNuna> jenda, that's all?
[06:01] <jenda> LiraNuna: it's just a bit of it.
[06:01] <LiraNuna> ok
[06:01] <jenda> You need teh entire thing?
[06:01] <LiraNuna> what application is that?
[06:01] <jenda> I can do that, it's just huge :)
[06:01] <LiraNuna> sure
[06:01] <LiraNuna> i know
[06:01] <LiraNuna> what application is that?
[06:01] <jenda> LiraNuna: it's not an application...
[06:01] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 well reinstall them and hopefully you will have better luck :P
[06:01] <jenda> what app - not sure what you mean.
[06:01] <LiraNuna> how did you create this PDB?
[06:02] <jenda> I didn't, I downloaded it.
[06:02] <LiraNuna> :|
[06:02] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... what is the difference between the different Nvidia drivers in the reps?
[06:02] <LiraNuna> you need a palmOS machine to view it then
[06:02] <jenda> haha
[06:02] <jenda> ok
[06:02] <LiraNuna> but
[06:02] <LiraNuna> there are freeware Palm Simulators
[06:02] <mjr> Captain_Redbeard, support for legacy hardware; it's explained in the package descriptions
[06:03] <jenda> LiraNuna: I think I just found a reader of the format...
[06:03] <LiraNuna> .PDB is a generic file type of Palm applications
[06:03] <Captain_Redbeard> mjr: yea, but if I want to install say nvidia-settings it will automaticly remove the nvidia package :O
[06:04] <LiraNuna> usually only the application that made it can read it
[06:04] <LiraNuna> unless it's aiming for compatibility with other applications
[06:04] <jenda> LiraNuna: argh, nevermind, it don't work.
[06:04] <LiraNuna> (such as pictures)
[06:04] <LiraNuna> that's what i said
[06:04] <jenda> I only need sample text, so I won't pursue it so hard :)
[06:04] <LiraNuna> you need a PalmOS machine
[06:04] <LiraNuna> to run that .prc
[06:05] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, this time I get compiler errors .. :(
[06:05] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, well install errors i mean
[06:05] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 at modprobe?
[06:05] <Mad3Max3> no.. make install
[06:05] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, no make instal
[06:06] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 what kind of errors
[06:06] <LiraNuna> Mad3Max3, it's not very wise to make install in ubuntu
[06:06] <Captain_Redbeard> further on... how do I stop the check for sata-channels at boot up? since there is only a harddrive on port one it takes some good 10 minutes for the computor to boot up since it has to check and probe and wait for the rest to time out
[06:06] <VanessaE> it should be noted that if you're doing something that involves `make install` you should probably be using checkinstall..  makes it easier to remove the prog later.
[06:07] <jbmigel> LiraNuna scroll up to see what we talking about dont just spout dictator crap
[06:07] <LiraNuna> :D
[06:07] <jbmigel> :)
[06:08] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, I got it to install.. and modprobe worked aswell,, I guess when it only does a newline it means success
[06:08] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 no news is good news
[06:09] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, go no dection of the sondcard with aplay -l thou.. reboot comp maybe?
[06:09] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 put it in /etc/modules first
 hi anyone knows how i must set the xorg.conf file to have two monitors?
[06:11] <rockzman> Can someoe help me with my wireless lan
[06:11] <quakenul> another try : ) now that i upgraded to edgy eft ipkungfu won't work anymore, this seems to be due to the source cmd which won't be executed via sudo. My guess was to edit /etc/sudoers in a way to allow exactly that but I'm fine with other solutions and any help is much appreciated :)
[06:11] <SAM_theman> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7011255910636054752&q=where%27s+my+change&hl=en
[06:11] <VanessaE> alvaro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27681/
[06:11] <SAM_theman> guys watch that
[06:11] <VanessaE> that's how my nvidia dualhead works.
[06:12] <VanessaE> might give you an idea.
[06:12] <rockzman> Can someoe help me with my wireless lan
[06:12] <rockzman> ?
[06:12] <alvaro> thanks VanessaE taking a look
[06:12] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, how do I save in Nano?
[06:12] <jbmigel> rockzman goto http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and download your kernel headers and also build-essential then come back and ask
[06:12] <alvaro> VanessaE, only one card? or two?
[06:12] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 sorry im an emacs guy
[06:13] <VanessaE> one card.
[06:13] <Mad3Max3> How do I save in Nano ppl?
[06:13] <quakenul> Mad3Max3: ctrl + o
[06:13] <VanessaE> (nv 6600, has dual outputs)
[06:13] <jbmigel> Mad3Max3 ctrl-x
[06:13] <catalytic> has anyone here tried enlightenment?
[06:13] <alvaro> mm i have two, thats the problem
[06:13] <quakenul> ctrl+x is exit
[06:13] <Mad3Max3> ctrl-o worked.-. thanks
[06:13] <VanessaE> alvaro: that's ok, you can do it with two, hold a sec.
[06:13] <quakenul> np
[06:14] <jbmigel> ctrl-x asks if you want to save before exit
[06:14] <Mad3Max3> jbmigel, im rebooting now.. hold your thumbs
[06:14] <jbmigel> good luck
[06:14] <VanessaE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27682/
[06:14] <VanessaE> that's for two cards
[06:15] <brian98> any chance of a decent version of flash
[06:15] <rockzman> jbmigel hhahah i already made that :D
[06:15] <brian98> :D
[06:15] <rockzman> jbmigel my wireless lan is up
[06:15] <VanessaE> does it make sense to you?
[06:15] <jbmigel> rockzman sweet man thats awesome
[06:15] <Tomcat_> brian98: Nope.
[06:15] <philipsmith> Macromedia flash is not working with my Firefox. I'm positive that I've installed it. In fact, perhaps I've installed it to 2 different locations. Could this by why it doesn't work?
[06:15] <rockzman> jbmigel but i still got a problem
[06:15] <brian98> This page requires the flash 8 player or better.Please click here to get it.
[06:15] <brian98> LOL] 
[06:15] <jbmigel> rockzman whats up now?
[06:15] <rockzman> jbmigel i have 1 access point router and 2 stations, one is windows another is my linux, of course
[06:16] <Tomcat_> philipsmith: You installed flashplugin-nonfree to two locations? o_O
[06:16] <jbmigel> rockzman i see your trouble already
[06:16] <rockzman> jbmigel i can even enter on access point web interface i even ping my DNS's ip but i cant just
[06:16] <GigaClon> I try to run /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives --plugin but all it gives me is the syntax screen
[06:16] <rockzman> surf
[06:16] <rockzman> jbmigel and my windows station works normally
[06:16] <philipsmith> Tomcat: Possibly. I'm not very knowledgeable. Can you help?
[06:16] <jbmigel> rockzman sorry you got cut off... you cant just what?
[06:17] <Tomcat_> philipsmith: No time, sorry... usually you just need to install the package and it works...
[06:17] <hastesaver> GigaClon, try sudo update-alternatives --all and change only the java-releated ones (this is a bad solution; maybe there are better ones :-))
[06:17] <rockzman> jbmigel my wireless network is up, but i am having troubles in my linux station
[06:17] <philipsmith> Tomcat_: Thanks.
[06:17] <compengi> LjL, i downloaded and installed froswire but it's not running =/
[06:18] <rockzman> jbmigel i can access the access point web interface i do ping dns's from the linux station but i cant surf
[06:18] <jbmigel> rockzman can you surf to 165.193.120.166
[06:18] <compengi> frostwire*
[06:18] <rockzman> jbmigel is that a random ip ?
[06:19] <jbmigel> rockzman it should be hotmail... we are testing your connection... I think just your name server suxorz
[06:19] <rockzman> jbmigel yes i cant ping any external websites and i can only access access point site
[06:20] <jbmigel> rockzman can you ping www.hotmail.com?
[06:20] <rockzman> lemme check[
[06:21] <compengi> i downloaded and installed frostwire but it's not running, what should i do?
[06:21] <compengi> i tried to reboot but it didn't help
[06:22] <VanessaE> compengi, run it from a terminal
[06:22] <VanessaE> tell me the error you get (I'm guessing it has to do with a shell error)
[06:22] <compengi> VanessaE, i don't know where it's located
[06:22] <VanessaE> just type the name
[06:23] <VanessaE> open a konsole
[06:23] <VanessaE> type "frostwire" and hit enter.
[06:23] <VanessaE> (without the quotes, of course)
[06:23] <compengi> VanessaE, oh, i need java
[06:23] <VanessaE> there you go :)
[06:24] <compengi> then sudo apt-get install sun-java?
[06:24] <ed_> Anyone know how I can change the colour of the text in my terminals?
[06:24] <VanessaE> I think so (I used the official package from Sun's website)
[06:24] <ed_> ie the non graphical ones
[06:24] <compengi> VanessaE, do they have deb packages for ubuntu or you compiled one?
[06:25] <VanessaE> I believe there are packages, yes.
[06:25] <VanessaE> however, what I installed didn't require compiling (Sun distributes them as binary)
[06:27] <jdsnape> does anyone know if xgl works with multiple monitors?
[06:27] <Tomcat_> jdsnape: It does... there are videos. :o
[06:27] <rockzman> jbmigel nope
[06:27] <rockzman> no ping
[06:27] <jdsnape> cool, does anything special have to be done with xorg.conf
[06:27] <jdsnape> or will it "just work" the same way as with one monitor
[06:28] <rockzman> jbmigel i could not resolve using host -d www.hotmail.com
[06:28] <jbmigel> rockzman does it error 'unresolved host"
[06:28] <compengi> VanessaE, it
[06:28] <compengi> VanessaE, it's rmp.bin
[06:28] <atom> can i use a KDE application although im using gnome?
[06:28] <compengi> rpm.bin*
[06:28] <rockzman> jbmigel uknown host
[06:29] <rockzman> unk*
[06:29] <rockzman> but i do ping my gateway
[06:29] <tjb891> can anyone tell me were direct connect file transfers go in gaim
[06:29] <VanessaE> what I downloaded was not the .rpm but just the plain .bin
[06:29] <VanessaE> but you should first try using the 'proper' ubuntu package
[06:30] <jbmigel> rockzman yes you would... is your wlan0 configured for dhcp?
[06:30] <compengi> VanessaE, i need Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 6
[06:30] <rockzman> jbmigel yes i did type dhcpcd wlan0
[06:30] <VanessaE> ok
[06:30] <yakumo> anyone know where i can find a dvd creator where i can create a root menu and the title menu?
[06:30] <rockzman> and it retrieved a ip jbmigel
[06:30] <rockzman> my access point is configurated to get dns automatically jbmigel
[06:30] <compengi> VanessaE, how can i get it proper for ubuntu
[06:30] <VanessaE> yakumo: maybe dvdstyler?
[06:31] <VanessaE> compengi, is there nothing listed in your package manager?
[06:31] <compengi> VanessaE, i'm searching
[06:31] <VanessaE> (I guess you use synaptic, right?)
[06:31] <VanessaE> I think it's sun-java-bin or so
[06:31] <VanessaE> (checking)
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> Its listed, but under the proprietary(Is that what its called?) tab..so you might have to enable those.
[06:32] <yakumo> can i create menu title using dvdstyler?
[06:32] <VanessaE> d'oh
[06:32] <rockzman> jbmigel should i use my acess point ip as name server?
[06:32] <jbmigel> rockzman look at output of "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[06:32] <yakumo> is the dvdstyler only allow to play dvd?
[06:32] <VanessaE> looks like sun java isn't even in here anymore
[06:32] <rockzman> jbmigel it has 2 isp dns those i said you that answers my pings
[06:32] <jbmigel> rockzman yes your nameserver should be your router
[06:32] <rockzman> jbmigel :D
[06:32] <rockzman> brb
[06:33] <rockzman> jbmigel worked :D
[06:33] <rockzman> brb
[06:33] <jbmigel> rockzman nice
[06:33] <atom> i cant find vmnet package using synaptic
[06:33] <VanessaE> you'll have to download the .bin from http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> No package?
[06:34] <atom> can anyone else find the vmnet ?
[06:35] <VanessaE> vmnet is part of vmware
[06:35] <VanessaE> or did you mean wmnet?
[06:36] <atom> two applications now failed due to no vmnet.... vmware and kftp
[06:36] <VanessaE> wtf does kft need with vmnet?
[06:36] <VanessaE> er, kftp
[06:36] <habeeb> Greetings, I was following a howto, and a step was: dpkg-buildpkg -rfakeroot -us -uc. There is no dpkg-buildpkg, right? Isnt there a buildpkg GNU program, but not a dpkg one. Did I miss something? :/
[06:37] <atom> said it was for KDE and im running gnome? has to emulate ?
[06:37] <VanessaE> dpkg-buildpackage
[06:37] <VanessaE> try that instead, habeeb
[06:37] <atom> says the service isnt running.. how to start vmnet?
[06:37] <habeeb> -_-
[06:38] <habeeb> VanessaE: thank you. I was looking for that...
[06:38] <VanessaE> tried modprobe vmnet ?
[06:38] <atom> modprobe?
[06:39] <dominus__> lguerra:
[06:39] <VanessaE> yeah
[06:39] <VanessaE> vmnet is a kernel module
[06:39] <jcsmith> hi all, i have dapper installed on my laptop and it seems that it is not executing any user crontabs
[06:39] <VanessaE> at least, I seem to remember that being the case.
[06:39] <jcsmith> does anyone have an idea of where to look to see whats going on, i don't see anything in /var/log/syslog which seems to be where cron is configured to log
[06:40] <fni> hey guys. trying to install unbuntu, but everytime i try it just starts loading ubuntu live CD
[06:40] <VanessaE> that's what it's supposed to do
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> Did you already install it?
[06:40] <VanessaE> you spawn the installer after the liveCD boots.
[06:40] <atom> theres an install icon on the desktop
[06:40] <Megaqwerty> .part
[06:40] <atom> dclick it
[06:40] <eternalswd> how would I go about routing one port to another.  say I have a program that wants to use port 59 that I don't want to give root access to but want to use port 9000 instead.  How would I route 9000 to port 59?
[06:41] <fni> VanessaE, but i want to install it to the HDD. problem is ubuntu takes forever to load (>30min)
[06:41] <Music_Shuffle> Right..
[06:41] <VanessaE> jeez
[06:41] <Music_Shuffle> You can find an option to install to the HDD on the liveCD's desktop.
[06:41] <Clinton__> fni: whatare you trying to install it on, a 286?
[06:41] <Jeruvy> fni: get a faster pc :)
[06:41] <VanessaE> once you spwan the installer, it will install to your HDD.
[06:41] <bod_> z80a
[06:41] <VanessaE> spawn.
[06:41] <fni> Clinton__: lol, it's a *sony* laptop
[06:41] <atom> i boot ubuntu in less than 2 minutes
[06:42] <Clinton__> fni: holy crap, might as well be a an 8086 then
[06:42] <atom> ur cd might be slow
[06:42] <atom> install to the hdd
[06:42] <julien_> fni trie alternate iso
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> its probably just his CD drive..
[06:42] <Subhuman> fni, my vaio boots in about 5 mins from the live CD....
[06:42] <Clinton__> I agree, that's ridiculous
[06:42] <fni> so far i've waited 30mins (at the redish screen)
[06:42] <atom> lol
[06:42] <mooseman089> has anybody had a problem lately with ubuntu where gnome applets start using port for servers like 80 and 443?
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> The disk maybe?
[06:42] <Subhuman> but yeah, i bet it your oprical drive, your on AC yeah?
[06:42] <VanessaE> for me, the livecd (actually, I use kubuntu) takes some 5 minutes to fully boot up (on a fast box) but the actual HD install takes maybe 2 mins or less.
[06:42] <VanessaE> to boot.
[06:42] <Clinton__> i have a compaq laptop (6years old) that boots in 5 minutes on the live cd
[06:42] <fni> yeah AC
[06:43] <fni> try re-burning at a slower speed then?
[06:43] <Music_Shuffle> Plus, if the disk's messed up, good luck installing it after your 30 minute wait.
[06:43] <Clinton__> It'll take so long, you might as well install Gentoo
[06:44] <kane77> hi... how can i close gnome? I would like to try fluxbox.
[06:44] <mooseman089> anybody having the same problem as me?
[06:44] <Clinton__> kane77: log out and choose fluxbox in your session manager
[06:44] <Clinton__> kane77: make sure you've installed fluxbox first tho
[06:44] <kane77> Clinton__, thanx.. hh thats easy :D
[06:44] <Clinton__> kane77: np
[06:45] <VanessaE> jeez...talk about a long install (gentoo)
[06:45] <ianmacgregor> lol
[06:45] <SpudDogg> Can someone here help me with the install of madwifi drivers?  I keep getting the error '.config does not exist'
[06:46] <ianmacgregor> SpudDogg: Did you run ./configure or ./config?
[06:46] <Paddy_EIRE> i have my hp all in one scanner printer attached and working as regards printing although I can not see where to add the scanner functionality
[06:46] <VanessaE> you have to set up sane/xsane
[06:47] <Paddy_EIRE> how
[06:47] <mcquaid> hey all, I think there's a guide on this but I can't find it right now.  Currently my ubuntu install is on a drive that does not have mbr on it, in my case hda has the mbr and ubuntu is on hdd
[06:47] <mcquaid> I want to move my ubuntu drive to a new computer that will end up being hda
[06:47] <VanessaE> eh, actually sane is a pain in the tail to configure
[06:47] <Paddy_EIRE> s ok i got it
[06:48] <VanessaE> ok
[06:48] <mcquaid> I have a guide on reinstalling grub, but obviously the menu.1st file will be incorrect, is there a way to make ubuntu recreate menu.1st for the new system?
[06:49] <DaBuss> Hey everyone, is it just me or are the repos going super slow? about 12kb/s?
[06:49] <mcquaid> i could manually modify menu.1st myself but then I thought about it and was curious what the installer uses to detect existing drives and create the menu.1st file in the first place
[06:49] <mooseman089> is it safe to delete /tmp ?
[06:49] <eternalswd> bump...how would I go about routing one port to another.  say I have a program that wants to use port 59 that I don't want to give root access to but want to use port 9000 instead.  How would I route 9000 to port 59?
[06:49] <yakumo> hi how can i install dvdstyler?
[06:50] <VanessaE> moose: only delete the *contents* of /tmp and only if you are absolutely sure nothing is using the files therein.
[06:50] <protex> Is Ubuntu still as sluggish as it was in 5.10?
[06:50] <DaBuss> Hey everyone, is it just me or are the repos going super slow? about 12kb/s?
[06:50] <SpudDogg> ianmacgregor, no, i have not done either of those
[06:50] <mcquaid> DaBuss, you asked that 5 seconds ago
[06:51] <mooseman089> vanessae it looks like there are socket files in there binding to my server ports like 80 and i need to fix it
[06:51] <mcquaid> be patient
[06:51] <mooseman089> even after a reboot they stay there
[06:51] <VanessaE> eh...don't mess with those.
[06:51] <DaBuss> ok, sry
[06:51] <mcquaid> in the past when I found the reps slow sometimes, simply stopping and reapplying whatever changes in synaptic will give it a kick in the pants
[06:51] <VanessaE> the kernel handles it's own port forwarding schemes separate from whatever might be stored in /tmp
[06:52] <mcquaid> it also can be a result of if you've added alternate repositories that don't have much bandwidth
[06:52] <mooseman089> so are you saying i should or shouldnt delete teh file?
[06:52] <VanessaE> should not.
[06:52] <DaBuss> ok, let me try that
[06:52] <mooseman089> http://pastebin.ca/213152
[06:52] <Music_Shuffle> DaBuss: They're ok for me
[06:52] <VanessaE> you might look into the workings of iptables.
[06:52] <Zaggynl> I can't hear sound from Flash movies (video.google movies) anymore :<
[06:52] <VanessaE> that's how the kernel does port forwarding et.al
[06:53] <JoeMama> hello
[06:53] <DaBuss> ok, then is gota be on my end...i hate time warner/adelphia
[06:53] <DaBuss> thx
[06:53] <JoeMama> does anybody know a program i can use to convert m4a to mp3...
[06:53] <eternalswd> Zaggynl, try using alsa-oss
[06:53] <Music_Shuffle> Good luck.
[06:54] <snook353> how do i edit a .gz compressed file?  i want to edit conky.
[06:54] <Zaggynl> eternalswd, well I can hear every other thing that makes sound, just flash isn't making any
[06:54] <binfalse1> mooseman089: what you trying to do, btw?
[06:54] <Zaggynl> and how would I change that option for flash?
[06:54] <snook353> sudo gedit doesn't open it - conky
[06:54] <binfalse1> mooseman089: i missed your original question
[06:54] <Rookie_> !dualscreen
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <mooseman089> for some reason the ports my apache server uses (80,443) are already binded by some apps http://pastebin.ca/213152
[06:55] <Music_Shuffle> binfalse1: His original related to deleting /tmp safely and if it was ok to do so.
[06:55] <JoeMama> !m4a
[06:55] <binfalse1> Music_Shuffle: ah okay
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <JoeMama> !convert
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <binfalse1> as long as he/she doesn't delete the /tmp dir itself  :)
[06:55] <mooseman089> i think the problem lies in the fact there was a power outage a couple times yesterday and somehow some files got stuck in /tmp are causing it but i dont know how i should remove them from /tmp
[06:55] <snook353> !conky
[06:56] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[06:56] <binfalse1> mooseman089: so are there files in /tmp that you cannot remove even as root?
[06:56] <xion1986> hello can anyone help me herre?
[06:56] <xion1986> here
[06:56] <Music_Shuffle> With?
[06:56] <mooseman089> i didnt try to remove them yet
[06:56] <Rookie_> !ask
[06:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:56] <eternalswd> Zaggynl, if you have alsa-oss installed from the repositories, to test, start your browser from the command line but put aoss at the beginning ie "aoss firefox"
[06:57] <mooseman089> ok they deleted ill reboot and see what happens
[06:57] <Zaggynl> nvm found a howto :), thanks for the pointer. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255422&highlight=flash+no+sound
[06:57] <xion1986> i got 2monitors and 1 graphicart, and now i want to use the 2 monitors to work like 1 big monitor, because the second monitor is a clone of the first one
[06:57] <mcquaid> does anyone know if there's a particular program that creates menu.1st when installing, or is that all wrapped up in the installer?
[06:58] <mcquaid> I want to know because I'm moving this drive to another computer and obviously the menu.1st will no longer be accurate
[06:58] <Scorpmoon> how do I install my creative webcam on Ubuntu?
[06:58] <Scorpmoon> Easycam and Camorama gave me 3 images of myself tiled
[06:58] <Clinton__> Scorpmoon: plug it in
[06:58] <Scorpmoon> no, it's not windows, its ubuntu
[06:59] <atom> any way to check your motherboard model within ubuntu?
[06:59] <Clinton__> Scorpmoon: I didn't say anything about windows
[06:59] <xion1986> i got 2monitors and 1 graphicard, and now i want to use the 2 monitors to work like 1 big monitor, because the second monitor is a clone of the first one
[06:59] <Scorpmoon> but plugging it in doesnt help
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> Mcquaid
[06:59] <Clinton__> atom: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:59] <mcquaid> yes?
[06:59] <Rookie_> !ati
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> Mcquaid: update-grub - program to generate GRUB's menu.lst file
[06:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <mcquaid> ahh thx very much Music_Shuffle
[07:00] <Music_Shuffle> Hope it helps
[07:00] <mcquaid> now I should be good to go
[07:00] <atom> thnx clinton but it looks to be only cpu info
[07:00] <mooseman089> ok great ubuntu remade the files in /tmp
[07:01] <mooseman089> can somebody tell me why its doing this?
[07:01] <Compy> Is there some reason why Dapper Drake server doesnt have a sendmail package available?
[07:01] <Clinton__>  mooseman089: what do you mean by remade?
[07:01] <Rookie_> !sendmail
[07:01] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 244 kB
[07:01] <mooseman089> i delete teh contents of /tmp and rebooted and the same files are back
[07:01] <Rookie_> !qmail
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Rookie_> !postfix
[07:01] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[07:01] <Scorpmoon> is it possible to do video chat in skype for linux?
[07:01] <mooseman089> clinton do you know how i have the problem with port bindings
[07:02] <binfalse1> mooseman089: "some files" in /tmp are okay
[07:02] <Clinton__> mooseman089: I know nothing about port bindings, sorry.  As for the tmp files, some files will always be there
[07:02] <binfalse1> mooseman089: that's what /tmp is for. some programs put temporary files in there.
[07:02] <mooseman089> yea but those files never prevent my apache server from running
[07:03] <Clinton__> mooseman089:  why would you not want to prevent your apache server from running?
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> He wants it to run...
[07:03] <mooseman089> when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 reload it gives me (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address no listening sockets available, shutting down
[07:03] <mooseman089> Unable to open logs
[07:03] <Who_> does anyone know if Ekiga can do video chat?
[07:03] <concept10> is there a room for the eft?
[07:03] <binfalse1> mooseman089: you probably run the init script as a normal user
[07:04] <Clinton__> mooseman089: then its an issue with the config, not tmp files
[07:04] <Clinton__> concept10: #ubuntu+1
[07:04] <binfalse1> mooseman089: try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[07:04] <concept10> Clinton__, thks
[07:04] <mooseman089> i ran the command as root from ssh
[07:04] <JoeMama> anybody know how to convert m4a to mp3??
[07:04] <ianmacgregor> binfalse1: Isn't it restart instead of reload?
[07:05] <Clinton__> JoeMama: sox *might* do it
[07:05] <Compy> Rookie_: why would it be on dappers package list but with an apt-cache search sendmail nothing is found?
[07:05] <binfalse1> ianmacgregor: there is also reload. i don't know what mooseman089 tries to do exactly
[07:05] <Rookie_> might be because you dont have the right rep. ?
[07:05] <Rookie_> !sendmail
[07:05] <atom> wow no nforce raid chipset drivers for linux. how shitty is that
[07:05] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 244 kB
[07:05] <Compy> possibly
[07:05] <Compy> ill have to check
[07:05] <Rookie_> look in that rep
[07:05] <Compy> Thanks, I shall.
[07:06] <binfalse1> ianmacgregor: restart shuts down the service, then starts it. reload just re-reads the config files.
[07:06] <Scorpmoon> what do you use for video chat if skype linux doesn't support it?
[07:06] <ianmacgregor> binfalse1: Ahh, ok, thanks
[07:06] <Music_Shuffle> You can use mplayer to convert the mp4's to .ogg's or whatnot. (No idea who asked though)
[07:06] <mooseman089> how do you manage the port mapper?
[07:06] <binfalse1> ianmacgregor: but not all services support "reload", it depends
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> has the integrated intel videocards linux support?
[07:06] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: I didn't know mplayer could convert types
[07:06] <Rookie_> restart
[07:06] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: you sure on that?
[07:06] <mjr> Scorpmoon, ekiga for example
[07:07] <SpudDogg> Can someone here help me install a new madwifi driver?
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> I'm about to try it. We'll find out? >.>
[07:07] <SpudDogg> Actually, all I need to do is create a symlink
[07:07] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: let me know!
[07:07] <binfalse1> mooseman089: the portmapper has nothing to do with your apache problem. portmapper is for rpc, mainly for nfs.
[07:07] <MetaMorfoziS> is there driver support from intel for intel integrated videocards?
[07:07] <Clinton__> SpudDogg: ln -s <sourcefile> <targetfile>
[07:07] <SpudDogg> Clinton__, thanks man, i'll try it
[07:07] <ianmacgregor> mooseman089: /etc/apache2/ports.conf ?
[07:08] <SlowLight> hello all, I'm new to Linux, I used to have putty ssh client on my XP, how can I have something similier on ubuntu to access my hosting server?
[07:08] <mooseman089> its not apache is something with the kernal/ubuntu
[07:08] <Clinton__> SpudDogg: np
[07:08] <mooseman089> even i chanage to a weird port it works
[07:08] <ianmacgregor> SlowLight: use ssh in a terminal
[07:08] <Rookie_> SlowLight - just type ssh and ip
[07:08] <SlowLight> will try!!!
[07:08] <liu> exit
[07:08] <Clinton__> mooseman089: on an off chance, do you have any other servers running?
[07:08] <binfalse1> mooseman089: first you want to find out which process is already bound to port 80: sudo netstat --inet -nap | grep LISTEN | grep -w 80
[07:09] <mooseman089> binfalse1 that returned nothing
[07:09] <binfalse1> mooseman089: okay, then: sudo netstat --inet6 -nap | grep LISTEN | grep -w 80
[07:09] <DeusX> I get the 'cannot start HAL' error on startup. WHat's this and how can I get rid of it ?
[07:09] <shuttle> lu
[07:09] <Rookie_> try /etc/services for ports
[07:10] <shuttle> quelqu un peux me dire comment lire des mp3 sur ubuntu ?
[07:10] <mooseman089> netstat --inet6 -nap | grep LISTEN | grep -w 80
[07:10] <mooseman089> tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN     4674/apache2
[07:10] <Compy> Rookie_: looks good, thanks for the tip.
[07:10] <binfalse1> mooseman089: see? apache2 is already running
[07:10] <Rookie_> oki, np
[07:10] <SlowLight> Rookie and how should I submit my username, it asks directly for passwrd
[07:11] <shuttle> hello
[07:11] <ianmacgregor> SlowLight: ssh username@host
[07:11] <shuttle> someone can explain to me how to play a mp3 file on ubuntu ?
[07:11] <mooseman089> but i cant get any files not even with telnet
[07:11] <Rookie_> your current user on your localhost is the username, if you have the same username on the server, just type the pwd and you logging in as that user
[07:11] <VanessaE> use xmms, amarok, etc.
[07:11] <SlowLight> Rookie thank you, and everyone
[07:12] <ianmacgregor> shuttle: xmms plays mp3 files out-of-the-box
[07:12] <VanessaE> (shuttle ^^^)
[07:12] <binfalse1> mooseman089: which ip address do you try?
[07:12] <shuttle> ok thx
[07:12] <mooseman089> localhost 80
[07:12] <mooseman089> go try yourself moose.homelinux.org
[07:13] <Darth_Tux> anyone using mac hardware with linux?
[07:13] <binfalse1> mooseman089: no answer. any iptables rules that could block connects to that machine?
[07:14] <binfalse1> mooseman089: the machine also doesn't respond to ping
[07:14] <mooseman089> my lan firewall blocks pings but the ports for the web server are open i checked
[07:15] <mooseman089> but what happened was my friend was using my site fine and the sudden he sent a message saying its down and i have been working on figure it out since
[07:15] <binfalse1> mooseman089: "lan firewall"... could you be more specific?
[07:15] <catalytic> i have just installed eclipse
[07:15] <atom> does debian run an x-server like ubuntu? x-server seems to complicate things with driver installs
[07:15] <mooseman089> i wasnt doing related to the server at all
[07:15] <DeusX> I get the 'cannot start HAL' error on startup. WHat's this and how can I get rid of it ? I get this after running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 3 times.
[07:15] <shuttle> Can i read my disk ntfs on linux ?
[07:15] <catalytic> and i want to set the workspace to another partition
[07:15] <mooseman089> smoothwall box
[07:15] <jelly-home> !ntfs
[07:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:15] <catalytic> but the partition is NTFS
[07:15] <shuttle> !ntfs
[07:15] <SpudDogg> ianmacgregor, you still here?
[07:15] <ianmacgregor> SpudDogg: yep
[07:16] <pvt_harv> ey guys...
[07:16] <VincentMX> hi
[07:16] <ianmacgregor> SpudDogg: I practically live here, lol
[07:16] <catalytic> the drive is mounted
[07:16] <binfalse1> mooseman089: i know little about smoothwall, but i guess you have to re-check if and how port forwarding on the smoothwall machine is configured
[07:16] <pvt_harv> im demonstrating ubuntu to new users here in asia...
[07:16] <catalytic> and i can open and read from it
[07:16] <catalytic> but should i be able to write to it?
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> No.
[07:16] <pvt_harv> showed this chat room on a big projector
[07:16] <VincentMX> my tv card (Pinnacle PCTV 40i) wont work with kubuntu
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> Not if its NTFS, I don't think.
[07:17] <catalytic> ...
[07:17] <Crazyl1nk> I have a question, i wish to have better Resolution how can i got about this because i cant seem to find where
[07:17] <atom> vincentmx - no shit
[07:17] <catalytic> damn
[07:17] <ianmacgregor> pvt_harv: Well, say hello to those folks :)
[07:17] <Music_Shuffle> NTFS is read-only.
[07:17] <VanessaE> ahh this is good to see....the edgy CD finally recognizes the SATA chipset/drives in our computers here.
[07:17] <catalytic> zomg
[07:17] <DeusX> I get the 'cannot start HAL' error on startup. WHat's this and how can I get rid of it ? I get this after running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 3 times..... someone, please ?
[07:17] <SpudDogg> ianmacgregor, hey question...when i try to build the driver for madwifi, i keep getting the error '../Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELCONF: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build/.config does not exist..  Stop.'  do you know what i need to do?
[07:17] <VincentMX> atom, explain?
[07:17] <Crazyl1nk> besides going to system, because they have a set limit.
[07:17] <catalytic> so if i had an already partitioned windows drive
[07:17] <mooseman089> binflase i can promise my firewall isnt doing anything because it doesnt work on the same box with localhost
[07:17] <binfalse1> VanessaE: which sata chipset is it?
[07:17] <catalytic> im never goign to be able to write to it with linux?
[07:17] <Music_Shuffle> You can read from it.
[07:17] <pvt_harv> ianmcgregor: they say hi, too..
[07:17] <ianmacgregor> SpudDogg: No idea, I've never had to build drivers.
[07:17] <atom> pinnacle is a horrid company for linux support. ur best chance is googling user-open drivers for it
[07:17] <Music_Shuffle> Right. Not with that filesystem, no.
[07:17] <catalytic> ok
[07:17] <pvt_harv> ianmacgregor: they say hi, too..
[07:17] <VanessaE> binfalse1, ULi 5289 (rev 10)
[07:18] <DeusX> I get the 'cannot start HAL' error on startup. WHat's this and how can I get rid of it ? I get this after running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 3 times..... someone, please ?
[07:18] <catalytic> i tried running eclipse with eclipse -date / instead
[07:18] <ianmacgregor> SpudDogg: Seen this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:18] <ianmacgregor> pvt_harv: :)
[07:18] <pvt_harv> dont buy hardware from vendors with no linux support
[07:18] <catalytic> but then it sayst that that workspace is currently in use
[07:18] <mooseman089> and what makes even weirder there is another ubuntu server that is also experiancing this exact some problem
[07:18] <binfalse1> VanessaE: uh, never heard of that. recently i had problems with a ICH7 sata that wouldn't recognize the attached disks
[07:18] <VanessaE> that was my problem exactly.
[07:18] <VincentMX> atom, it uses the bttv driver, wich comes with most 2.6 kernels
[07:19] <catalytic> oh and does anyone know about configuring enlightenment for the first time?
[07:19] <DeusX> I get the 'cannot start HAL' error on startup. WHat's this and how can I get rid of it ? I get this after running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' 3 times..... someone, please ?
[07:19] <catalytic> eg putting in some menus and aps etc?
[07:19] <binfalse1> VanessaE: when booting an older kernel, the controller was recognized as IDE, but the disks couldn't do DMA...
[07:19] <VanessaE> dapper recognized the chipset but not the disk.  I just chalked it up to a kernel bug and rolled my own (used a regular IDE disk and them moved it all over to SATA)
[07:20] <mooseman089> is there way to backup all apps installed through apt-get with ubuntu?
[07:20] <Carroarmato0> Hit3k, can somebody tell me how to make some partitions not mount automatically at boot?
[07:20] <Jahman> hi
[07:20] <SpudDogg> ianmacgregor, looks like that page is only for breezy
[07:20] <VanessaE> mooseman: have you ever messed with the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives?   If not, just back that up.
[07:20] <ianmacgregor> SpudDogg: :(
[07:20] <binfalse1> VanessaE: i even tried compiling 2.6.18 on that machine. same problem. so only IDE was possible..
[07:20] <VanessaE> it contains everything you've installed, in .deb package form.
[07:20] <clearzen> Carroarmato0: comment the drives out in fstab
[07:20] <sharperguy> anyone know how to record ekiga calls?
[07:20] <VincentMX> still there, atom?
[07:21] <binfalse1> mooseman089: do you have tcpdump installed?
[07:21] <Carroarmato0> clearzen, just an # infront of them?
[07:21] <mooseman089> no whats that
[07:21] <binfalse1> mooseman089: a network testing/sniffing tool
[07:21] <clearzen> yes
[07:21] <Carroarmato0> clearzen, thx!
[07:21] <Music_Shuffle> Clinton_ you here still?
[07:21] <atom> what is a good tv capture / viewer program for linux anyway? i got a theater 550
[07:21] <mooseman089> o whoa its built in
[07:21] <clearzen> Carroarmato0: no problem
[07:21] <binfalse1> mooseman089: good for network debugging to see if some packets reach a machine
[07:22] <Music_Shuffle> Clinton__ you here still? *Typos ftl*
[07:22] <mikefoo> Have a Question: We run a fairly large web server shop, which lots of content. We switched to holding the served content to a network attached storage device. I tested max throughput to the device and got 30MB/sec when the webserver only pushed 5MB/sec. After we switched out request time dropped a lot. So I guess it just sheer latency to the NAS?
[07:22] <binfalse1> mooseman089: try "sudo tcpdump -ni your_eth_interface port 80"
[07:22] <binfalse1> mooseman089: got it running?
[07:22] <clearzen> does anyone have links to a good iptables guide
[07:22] <mooseman089> yea
[07:23] <binfalse1> mooseman089: do you see packets now?
[07:23] <mooseman089> yea
[07:23] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: sup?
[07:23] <Music_Shuffle> It works.
[07:23] <Music_Shuffle> :D
[07:23] <binfalse1> mooseman089: okay, so the port forwarding works
[07:23] <Clinton__> awesome!
[07:23] <anacaona> hello hello
[07:23] <Music_Shuffle> http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_aac/mp4_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux
[07:23] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: thats something I gotta check into
[07:23] <binfalse1> mooseman089: but somehow your apache2 is deaf
[07:23] <anacaona> i'm having a problem with dapper install freezing at the partition set up
[07:23] <Clinton__> *bookmarked*
[07:23] <Music_Shuffle> I tested the steps for just one file, works fine to .wav and then from there you do it again to .mp3, or for a folder or whatever
[07:23] <Music_Shuffle> But theres a script listed
[07:24] <Music_Shuffle> to go straihgt from
[07:24] <mooseman089> or something is else is binded to the port blocking apache from it?
[07:24] <Music_Shuffle> except...I have no idea what to do with the script to run it.
[07:24] <Music_Shuffle> Because I'm noob like that. Any help?
[07:24] <binfalse1> mooseman089: maybe apache2 is only bound to the ip6-addresses, not ipv4
[07:24] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: thx =)
[07:24] <Clinton__> Music_Shuffle: OK, back to work forme
[07:24] <Music_Shuffle> Np.
[07:25] <Music_Shuffle> Anyone able to explain scripts to me? >.>
[07:25] <binfalse1> mooseman089: can you check iptables rules on the apache2 machine? sudo iptables -L -nv  (and paste it to pastebin)
[07:25] <mooseman089> http://pastebin.ca/213822
[07:26] <grndslm> does suspend to hd or ram work in edgy/compiz??
[07:26] <binfalse1> mooseman089: looks good
[07:26] <si9o> hi all
[07:26] <Music_Shuffle> Hi
[07:26] <binfalse1> mooseman089: does "w3m http://localhost/" on the apache2 machine work?
[07:27] <mooseman089> so what do you think happened personally i have 2 guess a) power outage had a delayed screw up of something b) i somehow got pwned by a hacker
[07:27] <dk06> How come I can't open a .rpm file in archive manager?
[07:27] <mooseman089> localhost contaced waiting for reply
[07:27] <binfalse1> mooseman089: not sure
[07:27] <ianmacgregor> dk06: Because we aren't supposed to be using rpm files in Ubuntu?
[07:27] <dk06> oh
[07:27] <dk06> thanks
[07:27] <Mathieu__> anybody has an up-to-date tutorial to install beryl/Xgl/AIGL? Both http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu and http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit are not working :(
[07:27] <mooseman089> do you think it could be a) ?
[07:28] <hurax> dk06: there's alien though
[07:28] <binfalse1> mooseman089: sorry, dont know
[07:28] <ianmacgregor> dk06: Search the repos for the app, or, find a .deb made for Ubuntu, or, compile from source
[07:28] <mooseman089> i would say there was a 4 hour difference between the last outage and the report of a problem
[07:28] <mooseman089> alright
[07:28] <ianmacgregor> dk06: Which app are you looking for?
[07:28] <dk06> ok
[07:28] <Andre28> hello. I have a 2.6.15-27-386 and i want to install a 640c at lpt1 (that didn't install it self on boot). What must i do? Google was not been a good friend. Thanks
[07:28] <_diz> sup?
[07:28] <dk06> limewire
[07:28] <Ragnaroek> Hi
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> Don't use LW.
[07:28] <ianmacgregor> !limewire
[07:28] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:28] <dk06> why not
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> Frostwire's easier to setup on Ubuntu.
[07:28] <mjr> Lr5, not really
[07:28] <binfalse1> mooseman089: try w3m http://::1/
[07:28] <Lr5> mjr: ok, thanks
[07:29] <Music_Shuffle> And its the same thing. PLUS, its blue!
[07:29] <dk06> ok
[07:29] <dk06> can u link me
[07:29] <Ademan> !ipv6
[07:29] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:29] <mooseman089> w3m http://::1/
[07:29] <mooseman089> w3m: Can't load http://::1/.
[07:29] <ianmacgregor> !limewire > dk06
[07:29] <dk06> ok
[07:29] <grahamldlw> hey can someone help me? i have a repository problem
[07:29] <dk06> thanks
[07:29] <dk06> but im asking about frostwire
[07:29] <ianmacgregor> !frostwire > dk06
[07:29] <VincentMX> !tv
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <grahamldlw> is there anyone here that can help me?
[07:30] <catalytic> anyone here use enlightenment?
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> dk06, its listed here:
[07:30] <si9o> well... i guess i'll jump right in. just got a SyncMaster 940bw and can't get it working in X. i've scoured the forums for something useful, but all i end up doing is crashing X and having to replace my xorg.conf file from backup
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28FrostWire.29
[07:30] <ianmacgregor> !anyone > grahamldlw
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> Just ctrl-f it, its pretty easy to follow.
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> grahamldlw, you never once stated a problem; that makes it kind of hard to answer a question, eh?
[07:30] <binfalse1> mooseman089: must be something in the apache2 config i guess. i never use apache, only thttpd. so i don't know.
[07:30] <dk06> ianmacgregor: should i download the tar of the other file
[07:30] <grahamldlw> i said a repository problem just to state the topic
[07:30] <Chousuke> Hmmh.
[07:31] <mooseman089> im almost postivite its not apache
[07:31] <ianmacgregor> dk06: I don't know, best to follow that page
[07:31] <Music_Shuffle> What about the repositories?
[07:31] <Andre28> I have a 2.6.15-27-386 and i want to install a 640c at lpt1 (that didn't install it self on boot). What must i do? Does it come with native suport or do i need software?
[07:31] <grahamldlw> i decided to wait for someone to respond as theres no point describing a problem when no ones watching
[07:31] <BHSPitLappy> grahamldlw, oh! okay! the answer to your question is, "maybe"
[07:31] <dk06> ok thanks guys
[07:31] <_diz> unsure
[07:31] <sharperguy> whats the repo with opera and stuff in it?
[07:31] <ianmacgregor> grahamldlw: No one can respond until we know the question
[07:31] <Music_Shuffle> Meh. Nobody WILL respond if you don't just state a question.
[07:31] <VanessaE> multiverse?
[07:31] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know of any software to see where a wifi signal is coming from?  You know the general direction...Preferably without a GPS antenna?
[07:31] <mooseman089> if i manually kill the pids of apps i see in netstat -lnp  | grep 80 then it works
[07:32] <hss> wouw beryl+xgl superb :D
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> SpudDogg, you can't tell if you're sitting still
[07:32] <grahamldlw> but anyway, i keep gettin an error with the respotory thing saying that i have malformed code on line 22, i deleted all my repositorys thinking that wud fix it and i cud get em back but i cant, so i have no repo's and an error still
[07:32] <Music_Shuffle> Anyone able to explain to me what on Earth I do with a script I found on a site that looks interesting? Like...how I run it/do whatever it is you do with scripts?
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> SpudDogg, you'd have to be able to move around a whole lot, you know
[07:32] <ianmacgregor> !easysource > grahamldlw
[07:32] <grahamldlw> huh?
[07:32] <SpudDogg> BHSPitLappy, meaning driving around the block, or just walking around a little?
[07:32] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, in a terminal, "sh nameofscript"
[07:33] <Music_Shuffle> grahamldlw, you can get them back...redo your sources.list file.
[07:33] <Music_Shuffle> Wait, what?
[07:33] <grahamldlw> i dont know how?
[07:33] <si9o> the question is: does anyone have any experience getting a syncmaster 940bw working in dapper?
[07:33] <BHSPitLappy> SpudDogg, you know what, I'm pretty sure you need GPS to even do that
[07:33] <Chousuke> I wonder if my 3d performance is at its maximum. I'm using the "ati" drivers, and glxinfo says I have direct rendering. I'm getting 700 fps with glxgears, which sounds pretty low for a radeon 9200 SE :/
[07:33] <grahamldlw> and wen i open it it says read only
[07:33] <ianmacgregor> grahamldlw: Check your other irc windows/tabs
[07:33] <Music_Shuffle> Open it as root.
[07:33] <BHSPitLappy> SpudDogg, I think for you, you'd just have to go around and watch the signal increase or decrease
[07:33] <skaos> hallo
[07:33] <arepie> hello,, big problem.. after install ubuntu which take all my harddisk space, i decided to reinstall ubuntu + windows.. but when i try to setup windows, the system can't detect my hard disk, then i open up ubuntu and run GNOME partiotion manager, and reformat it, it get;s even worst.. now ubuntu also didn't recognize my hard disk..
[07:33] <SpudDogg> BHSPitLappy, do you know of a GPS antenna that will work well in ubuntu with airodump?
[07:33] <Lr5> Is it normal that when some application is playing sounds you don't hear sound from other applications?
[07:34] <k3nobi> hi there, if I install now edgy-RC will I get updates for the final realase Okt26 or do I have to do a reinstalltaion..?
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> Arepie: LiveCD to fix it?
[07:34] <grahamldlw> i tried that thing already and i didnt understand it
[07:34] <BHSPitLappy> SpudDogg, I don't.
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> ...tried what?
[07:34] <arepie> Music_Shuffle: yes.. im run the GNOME partition manager with live cd.. now the live cd also didn't recognize my hard disk.. it says that i have no hard disk
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> BHSPitLappy, I think that's like two steps ahead of where I am with this script.
[07:35] <BHSPitLappy> Lr5, yes. that's the currently-bad state linux sound is in.
[07:35] <Music_Shuffle> I'm at the "text on web page, me have blank stare"-stage.
[07:35] <SpudDogg> BHSPitLappy, ok, thanks man
[07:35] <Music_Shuffle> Shove it into a text editor or what?
[07:35] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, link?
[07:35] <dk06> nothing happens when i launch frostwire
[07:35] <grahamldlw> i tried that source list program website thing and i didnt understand it
[07:35] <Music_Shuffle> BHSPitLappy, http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_aac/mp4_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux
[07:36] <Music_Shuffle> Its the one at the bottom to do it all at once, but I've never touched a script before...so I'm >.>.
[07:36] <grahamldlw> how do i acctually replace the source file thing because it says read only
[07:36] <Music_Shuffle> grahamldlw, open a terminal
[07:37] <ianmacgregor> grahamldlw: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:37] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, yeah, throw it into a text editor.
[07:37] <Music_Shuffle> ...and then follow what he said.
[07:37] <labanux> anyone know how to play VCD on ubuntu??
[07:37] <Music_Shuffle> Mplayer has an option to do that.
[07:37] <labanux> i've installed all media player i've found in repesitory
[07:38] <labanux> but still can't fix that
[07:38] <earthian> hello
[07:38] <Music_Shuffle> Did you install mplayer? It might not be listed.
[07:38] <earthian> how do i make ALT+SHIFT to change my keyboard layout ??? i am using gnome
[07:38] <labanux> i;ve install it
[07:38] <Music_Shuffle> Does the Play VCD option just...not work?
[07:38] <labanux> mplayer + all video plugin
[07:39] <protex> Hello guys! I'm about to be a new Ubuntu user; I'm moving over from Gentoo, just burning the install now. =] 
[07:39] <labanux> it gives an error messages , something like : can't find plugin
[07:39] <Music_Shuffle> Hi.
[07:39] <ianmacgregor> protex: Awesome :)
[07:39] <dk06> can someone help me in PM for 1 java question
[07:39] <dk06> its very simple
[07:39] <Music_Shuffle> Sorry then, that's the extent of my knowledge of VCD's in Ubuntu. Bet someone else can help you more.
[07:40] <ianmacgregor> dk06: Better to askin the channel, that way others can learn too
[07:40] <mooseman089> falsebin1 are you still hanging around?
[07:40] <Andre28> bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:40] <Andre28> 640c
[07:40] <Andre28> on lpt1
[07:40] <Andre28> why doen't it came on the wizard?
[07:40] <labanux> the VCD fomat is .DAT, and it's always give some error messages like : "not supported file format"
[07:40] <Andre28> pc rebooted, the cable was there...
[07:40] <Andre28> why not?
[07:40] <Andre28> ideas?
[07:40] <dk06> ok i need to configure java for frostwire
[07:40] <dk06> and i did update-java
[07:41] <dk06> umm update alternative
[07:41] <earthian> how do i make ALT+SHIFT to change my keyboard layout ??? i am using gnome
[07:41] <dk06> i get 3 choices, and i have to choose the one that coresponds to jse3
[07:41] <dk06> jse2
[07:41] <Music_Shuffle> Unbelievable. I did the script thing...all ready to convert my non-Mp3's to Mp3's...and then realized I deleted them all.
[07:41] <protex> Is there a net-install option for Ubuntu?
[07:41] <dk06> tuhere are 3 choices
[07:41] <Music_Shuffle> Configure java for frostwire?
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> labanux, tried VLC?
[07:41] <dk06> usr/bin/gij-wrapper4.1
[07:41] <dk06> yes music shuffle
[07:41] <gandolftheiwzard> hi
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, bravo.
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> Dunno about others, but I never had to configure it.
[07:42] <dk06> usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[07:42] <dk06> and the thrid option is
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> I just installed with Synaptic, and then went for FW itself.
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> labanux, I just about promise you that VLC can play it.
[07:42] <Music_Shuffle> BHSPitLappy, *Takes a bow*. Looking for one to see if this'll work.
[07:42] <sharperguy> whats the repo with opera and stuff in it?
[07:42] <dk06> usr/lib/jvm/java1.50sun/jre/bin/java
[07:43] <dk06> so which one do i choose
[07:43] <dk06> which one corresponds to j2se
[07:43] <ianmacgregor> !seveas > sharperguy
[07:43] <dk06> jse2
[07:43] <BadRabbit320> How do I make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[07:43] <ianmacgregor> sharperguy: I think that is it
[07:43] <dk06> js2e
[07:43] <protex> Guys, is there a net-install option for Ubuntu? Or should I just install the base, and build up from there.
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> Base.
[07:44] <ianmacgregor> protex: I would suggest to install from the Alternate cd and build from there.
[07:44] <Music_Shuffle> LiveCD and then whatever else is really easy.
[07:44] <protex> Thanks.
[07:44] <protex> ianmacgregor: Aye, the alternate CD differs in which way?
[07:44] <dk06> anyone please
[07:44] <sharperguy> I though it was an official repo for comercial software, that only had opera in it, at least when i had it enabled
[07:44] <ianmacgregor> protex: It's a text-based installer.. and since you're coming from gentoo, I would think you can handle it
[07:45] <protex> ianmacgregor: Oh, awesome. =). Although I've never install Ubuntu before, so does that text installer have instructions?
[07:45] <Music_Shuffle> That makes sense as to why I had no idea what you were talking about then...
[07:45] <ianmacgregor> protex: The desktop cd is a livecd with a gui installer, but I have never used it
[07:45] <Music_Shuffle> Us Windows kids like GUI's.
[07:45] <dk06> protex: i have used the livecd to install dapper, and it works well
[07:45] <ianmacgregor> protex: It's quite easy to understand.. I know an 8 year old who used it and didn't have any questions until the partitioning section :)
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> protex, you want the alternate cd, because it gives the option of installing a base system. (it's called a Server install, from the main menu).
[07:46] <Music_Shuffle> The LiveCD is the shinier version.  Neither is complex at all.
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> and yes, even IT is easy.
[07:46] <protex> ianmcgregor haha awesome
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, you should start apprenticing this 8-year-old.
[07:47] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Way ahead of ya ;)
[07:47] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: My niece, almost 9 years old, runs three Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS boxes and even uses LAMP
[07:48] <orange_> hi all - can i ask q's about edgy here or is there another channel?
[07:48] <Music_Shuffle> Wow...
[07:48] <ianmacgregor> Ubuntu is just that easy :)
[07:48] <knoppix_> how to conect with spnanish Chat???
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, what could a 9-year-old possibly do with 3 boxes
[07:49] <nolimitsoya> orange_, that would be #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <phaedra> orange_,  #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <orange_> ta
[07:49] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Fill them with horses wallpaper apparently
[07:49] <BHSPitLappy> haha
[07:49] <sharperguy> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main is what i meant
[07:49] <knoppix_> Como me conecto con una espaol chat
[07:49] <rbil> BHSPitLappy, setup a high availability Linux :-)
[07:49] <reiki> !es
[07:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> Well, I seem to be getting owned by this...BHS, what do I do to run it?
[07:50] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, so what website does she apparently host
[07:50] <knoppix_> #ubuntu-es
[07:50] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, you don't have the music though
[07:50] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: She runs a PmWiki on her localhost (non-public)
[07:50] <knoppix_> #edubuntu
[07:50] <reiki> knoppix_,   ../j #unbuntu-es
[07:50] <reiki> or that
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> Well, see, I just entered sh ConversionScript into a terminal.
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> And it tossed me the message
[07:50] <Music_Shuffle> No files with extension m4a in this directory.
[07:51] <Timmy|GDS> Ok, I just found a new View Sonic Graphics Series G810 made in 2000 21" in the trash, it works, can somebody tell me the type of monitor i should tell xorg it is so i can have exact drivers?
[07:51] <Music_Shuffle> So I'm wondering where I add in the modifications to that to specify folder.
[07:51] <Music_Shuffle> Because it WORKS, I'm just not entering it in right.
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, yeah... you have to run it with the proper arguments... it's not going to pop up some GUI tot use
[07:51] <St0n3-C0l> well
[07:51] <St0n3-C0l> I've a problem in Mplayer..
[07:51] <St0n3-C0l> every song I am playing is playing in very slow motion
[07:51] <St0n3-C0l> what's the problem with it ?
[07:51] <St0n3-C0l> can anybody solve me out ?
[07:51] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Do I recognise your nick from #lfd a while back?
[07:51] <Music_Shuffle> And according to the link, it says to use aac2mp3 -h for the help file.
[07:51] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, what errors
[07:52] <BHSPitLappy> ianmacgregor, yes. I'm always there.
[07:52] <Falstius> St0n3-C0l: use an mp3 player?
[07:52] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: Ah, that's what I thought
[07:52] <St0n3-C0l> XMMs doing the same thing also!
[07:52] <Timmy|GDS> fuck you hoz
[07:52] <rbil> Timmy|GDS, no such a thing as monitor drivers, being a multisync type of monitor should just work
[07:52] <Music_Shuffle> Its not able to select the directory. And I'm not sure how to open the help file, which the site says is "aac2mp3 -h"
[07:52] <St0n3-C0l> Just happened it now!!
[07:52] <Music_Shuffle> I just enter that into the terminal or what?
[07:52] <BHSPitLappy> rbil, heh.
[07:53] <ianmacgregor> Music_Shuffle: yes
[07:53] <Music_Shuffle> ~$ aac2mp3 -h
[07:53] <Music_Shuffle> bash: aac2mp3: command not found
[07:53] <ianmacgregor> Music_Shuffle: -h = show help for that app. It may have a "--usage" switch as well.
[07:53] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, ./NAMEOFSCRIPT -h
[07:54] <ianmacgregor> BHSPitLappy: thank you
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> ~$ ConversionScript -h
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> bash: ConversionScript: command not found
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> >.>
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> WIth the full filename?
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> you also might need to do "chmod +x NAMEOFSCRIPT" first
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, of course.
[07:54] <ianmacgregor> Music_Shuffle: you need a "./" before the name of the script
[07:54] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, use TAB-completion.
[07:54] <Music_Shuffle> Oh I need the ./?
[07:54] <ianmacgregor> yes
[07:55] <ianmacgregor> If you are in the same dir as the script
[07:55] <St0n3-C0l> anybody home ?
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle,
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> ./NAMEOFSCRIPT -h
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> just like that
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> except, the script's filename
[07:55] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I have a failing drive that I need to briefly transfer files to (off a good drive) while I repartition and format the good drive to take the data of both. So which filesystem is the 'kindest' to a failing drive?
[07:55] <BHSPitLappy> use the TAB key to finish typing the file name, so you know it's correct
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> Umm ok
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> and it says permission denied
[07:55] <Music_Shuffle> >.<
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> baxter_kylie, try to find some other way. for your sake.
[07:56] <ianmacgregor> Music_Shuffle: ls -l nameofscript
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, did you chmod it like I told you to?
[07:56] <tamale> could someone help me get ubuntu working nicely on my new HP laptop?  I just installed Ubuntu but it's stuck on 1024x768 resolution.. how do I get 1680x1050 as an option?
[07:56] <Music_Shuffle> If I knew how/what, I promise I would have!
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> "<BHSPitLappy> you also might need to do "chmod +x NAMEOFSCRIPT" first"
[07:56] <BHSPitLappy> I siad that 2 minutes ago
[07:56] <ianmacgregor> !resolution
[07:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:56] <tamale> I tried installing the ATI drivers but it failed
[07:57] <nickspoon> tamale: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution :P
[07:57] <baxter_kylie> BHSPitLappy: I have the files on an array elsewhere... with several hours work I can salvage the data but I'm looking for the quick and dirty solution right now. If I had to format the failing drive with a fs for a one-time transfer, what's the safest bet?
[07:57] <orange_> anyone know how to determine UUID's of a new partition?
[07:57] <BHSPitLappy> nickspoon, I promise you that's not the solution to his problem
[07:57] <tamale> nickspoon: 1680x1050 isn't listed as an option
[07:57] <Music_Shuffle> Ok I did that, it didn't give any readout though.
[07:57] <St0n3-C0l> Someone help me on Mplayer :((
[07:57] <dk06> thanks guys i have frostwire working :D
[07:57] <BHSPitLappy> Music_Shuffle, it shouldn't. but now you won't get permission denied
[07:57] <dk06> stone col
[07:57] <dk06> screw mplayer
[07:57] <dk06> get bmp
[07:57] <dk06> beep media player
[07:57] <Music_Shuffle> niceDay, eh dk? ;P
[07:57] <ianmacgregor> tamale: open a term and do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-sorg
[07:57] <dk06> yeah
[07:58] <ianmacgregor> *xorg
[07:58] <protex> When I have my base system is there a repo I need to enable to get newer software packages?
[07:58] <nickspoon> tamale: ah, right, in which case you'll need to edit your xorg.conf
[07:58] <Music_Shuffle> nahkiss, the defaults are nearly everything.
[07:58] <niceDay> Music_Shuffle: pardon ?
[07:58] <VanessaE> yeah, you need universe and multiverse
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> protex, rather, UNSUPPORTED packages.
[07:58] <clearzen> Is there a quick way I could see the differences in two config files for the same service using emacs?
[07:58] <tamale> it says xserver-sorg is not installed
[07:58] <arepie> hello,, big problem.. after install ubuntu which take all my harddisk space, i decided to reinstall ubuntu + windows.. but when i try to setup windows, the system can't detect my hard disk, then i open up ubuntu and run GNOME partiotion manager, and reformat it, it get;s even worst.. now ubuntu also didn't recognize my hard disk..
[07:58] <BHSPitLappy> tamale, he meant xorg
[07:58] <St0n3-C0l> dk06: my all songs are playing slowly even with XMMS
[07:58] <Music_Shuffle> ...../sigh. Sorry, I hit the autocomplete nick key twice. My fault.
[07:58] <protex> VanessaE: How would I enable those? Uncomment them from /etc/sources?
[07:58] <protex> BHSPitLappy: Yes, forgive me.
[07:58] <tamale> ok i'm in a menu system
[07:58] <Gavrila> hello is there anyone who successfully configured his laptop to use an external monitor?
[07:59] <tamale> what should i select
[07:59] <VanessaE> protex: rather, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <dk06> yeah
[07:59] <VanessaE> but yeah
[07:59] <dk06> thats why im tellin you try bmp
[07:59] <VanessaE> uncomment the appropriate lines
[07:59] <dk06> it pwns all
[07:59] <protex> VanessaE: And aside from those, there's no more I need to enable correct?
[07:59] <VanessaE> as far as I know, yeah.
[07:59] <protex> VanessaE: Thanks.
[07:59] <tamale> ianmacgregor: I'm in a menu program asking what x server driver I should select
[07:59] <St0n3-C0l> hmm
[07:59] <ianmacgregor> protex: I use only those and they have tons of stuff in them
[07:59] <St0n3-C0l> let me try it then!!
[07:59] <tamale> ianmacgregor: What should I pick :)
[07:59] <clearzen> Gavrila: Mine works. But it worked directly after install
[07:59] <Gavrila> I'd like to use an external monitor with ati card in my laptop, but I can't manage to get a proper resolution
[08:00] <BHSPitLappy> St0n3-C0l, all "best media player" flamewars aside, it sounds like your files have sample rate issues.
[08:00] <nickspoon> tamale: what are the options?
[08:00] <VanessaE> in mine, I've enabled all of the repository lines that were included in the default sources.list (some were not enabled by default)
[08:00] <protex> ianmacgregor: Alright awesome! I'm looking specifically for the nvidia beta drivers, and beryl
[08:00] <Gavrila> clearzen, do you use it in clone mode? or what?
[08:00] <tamale> nickspoon:  there are tons. all different kinds of VGA manufaturers i think
[08:00] <dk06> stone col : go for it :D you wont be dissapointed
[08:00] <tamale> I don't see ati though
[08:00] <St0n3-C0l> BHSPitLAPPY: well...they were playing okay before but just today they're having this problem!
[08:00] <dk06> i gotta mow the lawn grrrrr
[08:00] <dk06> c yall later
[08:00] <BHSPitLappy> protex, ahh... wait, if you're going to be using X, why are you doing a base install, if I may ask
[08:01] <protex> BHSPitLappy: Feels more like home to me, lol >_<
[08:01] <tamale> anyone?
[08:01] <VanessaE> I use the nvidia beta driver..
[08:01] <VanessaE> (installed using nvidia's official package)
[08:01] <ianmacgregor> tamale: I always select via
[08:01] <Music_Shuffle> ./same.
[08:01] <tamale> i have an X1600
[08:01] <tamale> (ati)
[08:02] <ianmacgregor> tamale: Have you installed the ati drivers?
[08:02] <protex> In Arch, the nvidia beta driver wouldn't support my 1440x900 resolution, so I'm going to try to stable one first.
[08:02] <tamale> ianmacgregor: I tried to follow the ubuntu guide for installing ati drivers, but upon reboot I didn't get a logon screen at all, just a bunch of screen artifacts
[08:02] <h00t> hello ... why when i install anjuta it says it cannot find gcc
[08:02] <tamale> so I reloaded the backup default xorg.conf
[08:02] <h00t> what compiler does the ubuntu come w/
[08:02] <anderson> how to install a pixelview play tv pro ultra ?
[08:02] <nickspoon> tamale: I have no idea. Open another terminal window and type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"
[08:02] <ianmacgregor> h00t: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:03] <clearzen> Gavrila: yes I use clone mod
[08:03] <h00t> they don't come by default
[08:03] <clearzen> *mode
[08:03] <St0n3-C0l> hey!!
[08:03] <ianmacgregor> h00t: no
[08:03] <h00t> ianmacgregor, why
[08:03] <tamale> the current driver is fglrx
[08:03] <St0n3-C0l> is there anyway I can reset my all Mplayer settings?
[08:03] <ianmacgregor> h00t: no idea
[08:03] <Music_Shuffle> aside from just reinstalling mplayer?
[08:03] <kaur> hi! I'm using edgy and my laptop can't resume from suspend (blank screen with stuck cursor, occasionaly blinking) what to do?
[08:03] <h00t> ianmacgregor, what's included in essentials
[08:03] <Music_Shuffle> Might be the easiest way to just refresh all the settings.
[08:04] <ianmacgregor> !build-essential
[08:04] <nickspoon> tamale: choose that one from the list.
[08:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:04] <St0n3-C0l> Music_Shuffle: how??
[08:04] <Music_Shuffle> apt-get remove mplayer and then reinstall it?
[08:04] <ianmacgregor> St0n3-C0l: you can mv ./mplayer ./mplayer-old and restart mplayer, that will reset everything.
[08:04] <Music_Shuffle> Hah. I like ian,'s idea better.
[08:05] <rbil> Music_Shuffle, changes are usually saved in dot files under your home directory. Removing the one for mplayer will put it back to default settings.
[08:05] <Ademan> does it matter if i remove the ubuntu-desktop package? it seems to depend on totem-mozilla, when i would rather have mplayer-mozilla
[08:05] <Music_Shuffle> Really?
[08:05] <tamale> nickspoon: Ok, I went through the config utility and tried to start x again.  I got "failed to load module "fglrx"
[08:05] <talisein> Music_Shuffle: apt-get removing would leave all the settings still
[08:05] <ianmacgregor> St0n3-C0l: Then, if you're sure you don't want the old settings: rm -r ./mplayer-old
[08:05] <utet3142> How do u change splash screens in gnome????
[08:05] <AsheD> if I am wanting to rsync to a link to a file, but to actually copy the file, not just the link, how do I do that?
[08:06] <Music_Shuffle> ...how to tell I still am nowhere closer to knowing anything. ;D
[08:06] <BHSPitLappy> protex, I recommend installing edgy rc
[08:06] <BHSPitLappy> or upgrading, if you installed dapper
[08:06] <ianmacgregor> utet3142: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/GnomeSplashScreen
[08:07] <protex> BHSPitLappy: egdy coming out already?
[08:07] <baxter_kylie> How does one force a swap partition out of use? (trying to format a drive)
[08:07] <Ademan> protex: DO NOT install edgy untill the release date, its VERY buggy right now
[08:07] <VanessaE> swapoff -a
[08:07] <digilink> I am trying to change the default file handler for bittorrent files to Azureus. I downloaded a torrent file to my desktop, righ clicked and selected open with other application, and when I selected azureus, I got an error window stating could not add application to the database. Either I'm doing this wrong, or something is broke.......
[08:07] <VanessaE> or swapoff /dev/whatever
[08:07] <strabes> it comes out in 5 days anyawy...
[08:07] <VanessaE> and comment it out of your /etc/fstab
[08:07] <St0n3-C0l> Thanks all!!
[08:07] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[08:07] <BHSPitLappy> protex, 5 dadys
[08:07] <BHSPitLappy> days
[08:07] <protex> BHSPitLappy: I can upgrade from dapper to edgy when it is released without reinstalling correct?
[08:08] <strabes> protex: yeah
[08:08] <protex> Ademan: Is it THAT buggy? >_<
[08:08] <strabes> i prefer to reinstall though
[08:08] <BHSPitLappy> protex, yeah, though you can upgrade now, if you're a beta kind of person
[08:08] <protex> BHSPitLappy: Coming from gentoo ~x86 I've always used bleeding edge...
[08:08] <BHSPitLappy> protex, I've been using edgy fine. I even have my mom using it, so...
[08:08] <Ademan> protex: no not really, but the upgrade can be a real pain
[08:08] <Ademan> i can think of at least 4 people who had a MAJOR hitch upgrading
[08:08] <BHSPitLappy> Ademan, judging by his background, he might be fine upgrading.
[08:08] <Ademan> x11-common causes a LOT of upgrade troubles
[08:08] <strabes> bhspitlappy: haha i put dapper on my mom's comp a few months ago - she has a bad habit of opening every email she gets
[08:08] <tamale> can someone please help?  I don't think I'm asking for much.. I just want 1680x1050 resolution :\
[08:09] <protex> Ademan: And if I install directly from an edgy RC cd, that wouldn't be an upgrade, correct?
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> strabes, huh?
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> protex, no.
[08:09] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: I tried that upgrade (edit sources -> update -> upgrade) and it broke all 11 boxes.
[08:09] <strabes> bhspitlappy: you said you have ur mom using ubuntu
[08:09] <protex> BHSPitLappy: Where can I get the rc?
[08:09] <VanessaE> as long as you wipe out your existing install (or install to another partition)
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> protex, release.ubuntu.org
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> or releases
[08:09] <Hoxzer> has someboyd else found firefox and nautilus unstable in dabber?
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> can't remember
[08:09] <digilink> I am trying to change the default file handler for bittorrent files to Azureus. I downloaded a torrent file to my desktop, righ clicked and selected open with other application, and when I selected azureus, I got an error window stating could not add application to the database. Either I'm doing this wrong, or something is broke.......
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> .com!
[08:09] <Music_Shuffle> All ELEVEN?
[08:09] <Ademan> ianmacgregor: what do you mean?
[08:10] <VanessaE> otherwise it might cause just as much trouble as a dapper->edgy upgrade can.
[08:10] <tjb891> does anyone here play planeshift?
[08:10] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: After rebooting, almost nothing worked
[08:10] <Ademan> hehe
[08:10] <BHSPitLappy> protex, ok ok http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[08:10] <strabes> tamale: does your monitor support that big of a resolution? and if so do you have your video card driver?
[08:10] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: So, I just wiped them all and installed from cd
[08:10] <Ademan> lol
[08:10] <Ademan> it was funny
[08:10] <Ademan> in the end
[08:10] <protex> BHSPitLappy: And I go into edgy/?
[08:10] <Ademan> it ended up removing all of the packages that werent on the cd anyways
[08:11] <Ademan> so i had to reinstall them one way or another
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> Ademan, he might be safe upgrading, since it's just a base system he has anyway...
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> protex, si senor.
[08:11] <ianmacgregor> A fresh Ubuntu install only takes about 45 mins if you use scripts for tweaking after the install
[08:11] <tamale> strabes:  I have a new laptop, HP NC8430 with a 1680x1050 screen and an ATI X1600 gpu
[08:11] <Ademan> BHSPitLappy: OH, prolly fine then, i dunno though, it was a PAIN for me, and a lot of other people
[08:11] <tamale> the ATI driver install failed.  I tried to use the guide on the main ubuntu guide
[08:11] <si9o> trying to get a Samsung SyncMaster 940bw working in Dapper. it displays post, and fb stuff, but once x starts the screen is all scrambled, any advice?
[08:11] <strabes> tamale: ok are you using dapper?
[08:12] <protex> BHSPitLappy: As of now, I have no systme, I was waiting for iso to download
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> si9o, is that an LCD? ./Just wondering.
[08:12] <tamale> Currently I've only got an edgy install disc with me.
[08:12] <ianmacgregor> Ademan: Dapper has LTS, so I may just stick withit for a while
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> protex, ah, then just download the edgy iso instead ^^
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> if it's not too much of a pain
[08:12] <si9o> Music_Shuffle, yeah
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> I have the 912N
[08:12] <strabes> tamale: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[08:12] <protex> BHSPitLappy: Yeah, just another 20 minutes....
[08:12] <Ademan> protex: or wait 5 days, are you having trouble with dapper?
[08:12] <Music_Shuffle> It did the same thing, but with Debian...because I picked the wrong display driver choice in the install.
[08:13] <Music_Shuffle> ...like 4-5 times in a row.
[08:13] <|rellis|> Does anyone know the name of the package(s) containing ls, mount, df, etc... ?
[08:13] <BHSPitLappy> protex, well, the edgy torrent is probably pretty strong...
[08:13] <Music_Shuffle> That might be your problem. >.>
[08:13] <tamale> strabes:  Which section should I follow?
[08:13] <strabes> tamale: depends if you are using dapper or edgy
[08:13] <BadRabbit320> How do I make my scrollbars wider(other than decreasing screen resolution)?
[08:13] <protex> Ademan: I have no Ubuntu install right now.
[08:13] <digilink> I am trying to change the default file handler for bittorrent files to Azureus. I downloaded a torrent file to my desktop, righ clicked and selected open with other application, and when I selected azureus, I got an error window stating could not add application to the database. Either I'm doing this wrong, or something is broke.......
[08:13] <ianmacgregor> |rellis|: I believe that is binutils, though  I could be wrong.
[08:13] <tamale> edgy:
[08:13] <Ademan> protex: oh, ok nvm then do what you want :-) i'd almost say its worth waiting 5 days for the official release
[08:13] <|rellis|> Ya it's not binutils =/ That was my 1st guess as well, hehe.
[08:14] <tamale> but i mean, within there there are several methods
[08:14] <ianmacgregor> |rellis|: Ahh, ok
[08:14] <digilink> nobody knows!!!??????
[08:14] <strabes> tamale: use method 1
[08:14] <Music_Shuffle> Nobody knows what?
[08:14] <strabes> tamale: you are using edgy right?
[08:14] <Music_Shuffle> Oh, the Torrent question?
[08:14] <digilink> this:
[08:14] <tamale> Yes, I'll give it a shot again.
[08:14] <digilink> this:
[08:14] <digilink> nobody knows!!!??????
[08:14] <digilink> I am trying to change the default file handler for bittorrent files to Azureus. I downloaded a torrent file to my desktop, righ clicked and selected open with other application, and when I selected azureus, I got an error window stating could not add application to the database. Either I'm doing this wrong, or something is broke.......
[08:14] <ianmacgregor> !repeat > digilink
[08:14] <Music_Shuffle> uTorrent with Wine works beautifully for me. Loved it with windows, still love it.
[08:14] <strabes> tamale: ok then follow method one on the edgy page
[08:15] <Axord> !repeat > Axord
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> protex, you can install edgy today, and then the official release will just be normal updates in a few days.
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> protex, the only problem is, your edgy RC cd will be obsolete in 5 days
[08:16] <|rellis|> You guys seem to get a lot of people who like to spam theur questions in here..
[08:16] <protex> BHSPitLappy: That's no problem.
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> cool
[08:16] <coocaracha> anyone here
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> nope
[08:16] <coocaracha> hmmm
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> only 962 people
[08:16] <elias_> how can I create a fullscreen xnest session with gdm in it?
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> that's nobody.
[08:16] <ianmacgregor> |rellis|: some folks are impatient. Which is understandable, I would want my computer working right away too
[08:16] <coocaracha> HAVVVVEEE BIIIIGGG QUESTION
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> elias_, erm... purpose?
[08:16] <coocaracha> how do i get the Qt3 headers and dev files?
[08:17] <VanessaE> try libqtmt-dev maybe?
[08:17] <rbil> jrellis, especially whentheir questions go unanswered. Why the heck are there over 950 lurkers hanging around here with so few participating?
[08:17] <|rellis|> ianmacgregor: True enough :) btw.. it's coreutils that has ls, mount, df, etc..
[08:17] <BHSPitLappy> elias_, it might be easier to just go to the Shut Down menu, and click switch user
[08:17] <|rellis|> rbil: Ubuntu is just that cool...
[08:17] <ianmacgregor> |rellis|: It is? Ahh, I'll have to remember that one, thanks
[08:17] <protex> BHSPitLappy: Urgh, the torrent is horrible speed lol
[08:17] <BHSPitLappy> protex, lol sorry
[08:17] <rbil> jrellis, a total waste of bandwidth if they're just leaving irc running and not actively participating
[08:18] <BHSPitLappy> protex, I've just always had good luck with ubuntu torrents I guess... maybe the HTTP or FTP or whatever is faster
[08:18] <protex> BHSPitLappy: It's alright, I'll just get the http of the alternate
[08:18] <protex> BHSPitLappy: about 25 minutes
[08:18] <BHSPitLappy> rbil, oh yes, tons of bandwidth
[08:18] <|rellis|> rbil: mmm yep, pretty much
[08:18] <coocaracha> do you guys compile from source?
[08:18] <tamale> by the way, I love the orange on  black look of edgy's startup splash :)
[08:18] <|rellis|> rbil: However IRC is pretty BW efficient in the 1st place =/
[08:18] <BHSPitLappy> coocaracha, only if absolutely necessary.
[08:18] <coocaracha> i kno
[08:18] <coocaracha> but
[08:18] <rbil> jrellis, i know but this lurking is just plain silly
[08:19] <strabes> tamale: you mean the bootsplash?
[08:19] <ianmacgregor> coocaracha: I used to compile from source all the time.. on other distros. Since I have been on Ubuntu, I have found that the huge repos negated that habit :)
[08:19] <tamale> yah I guess
[08:19] <coocaracha> lik.........missing Qt3 headers
[08:19] <coocaracha> and thats making me maaad
[08:19] <coocaracha> some of the programs i use dont have binaries
[08:19] <tamale> strabes:  No luck.  I'm still suck at the boot splash (almost all the way loaded) with some screen artifacts.  Hard freeze.. can't get to virtual terms.
[08:19] <tamale> This is after following Method 1.
[08:19] <BHSPitLappy> !seen keybuk
[08:19] <ubotu> I last saw Keybuk (n=scott@quest.netsplit.com) 1d 24m 18s ago, quiting: ""
[08:20] <ianmacgregor> coocaracha: apt-cache search libqt3-headers
[08:20] <elias_> BHSPitLappy: Switching VTs takes endless! I want xnest. Moreover my XGL instance crashes if I do switch users
[08:20] <BHSPitLappy> elias_, wha? takes endless what?
[08:20] <h00t> hey ... when install "essentials" what version of gcc will it install
[08:20] <BHSPitLappy> it takes <1sec
[08:21] <ianmacgregor> h00t: I believe it's 4.0
[08:21] <elias_> BHSPitLappy: Switching between X sessions with Ctrl+Alt+F7/8
[08:21] <BHSPitLappy> h00t, whichever gcc is in your repositories. scroll down to it and look.
[08:21] <tamale> strabes: Should I try method 2?
[08:21] <strabes> if you want
[08:21] <BHSPitLappy> elias_, it takes under a second!
[08:21] <elias_> BHSPitLappy: I just want to run a session in a window, do my stuff and close again
[08:21] <elias_> BHSPitLappy: no way!
[08:22] <BHSPitLappy> watch
[08:22] <tamale> strabes:  I just want it to work :)
[08:22] <BHSPitLappy> there
[08:22] <Music_Shuffle> elate, same with me.
[08:22] <BHSPitLappy> I just switched and came back
[08:22] <h00t> BHSPitLappy, how can i see my repositories ... isn't it the same thing as the list in Synaptic
[08:22] <Music_Shuffle> ...I hate this.
[08:22] <elias_> The screen flashes several times, backlite goes on and off, ... all in all, this sucks!
[08:22] <Music_Shuffle> elias_, same with me.
[08:22] <BHSPitLappy> h00t, I just meant, in synaptic, scroll down to gcc and look what version is available
[08:22] <BHSPitLappy> that's the version it will install
[08:22] <elias_> Xorg should work on something better! Where all Xsessions run on one process maybe.
[08:23] <BHSPitLappy> elias_, your monitor is weird then
[08:23] <BHSPitLappy> that's your monitor's fault
[08:23] <clearzen> coocaracha: you can. Why?
[08:23] <elias_> My Laptop is weird indeed (Vaio) but this was the same on almost any machine I worked on yet!
[08:23] <ianmacgregor> I installed build-essentials on the 16th of this month and it installed gcc 4.0.3-1
[08:23] <SPF> where can I find the RTL8201 network card driver?
[08:23] <coocaracha> clearzen: wat did i miss
[08:23] <h00t> it seems that i have installed 3.3 & 4.0 "base" packages ... 1. what is base package as opposed to "essentials" ... 2. why do i have 2 versions of compiler installed? will I need the old one
[08:24] <coocaracha> hoot: apt-get install build-essentials
[08:24] <coocaracha> that will take care of all of it
[08:24] <coocaracha> also install xlibs-dev
[08:24] <michi_> guten abend
[08:24] <h00t> coocaracha, I want to understand it not "just take carre of it all"
[08:24] <clearzen> coocaracha: you will also need gcc and checkinstall
[08:24] <utet3142> sweet it worked
[08:24] <h00t> what are xlibs-dev
[08:24] <h00t> for gui??
[08:25] <tamale> this is pyschotic.. I just want to change my resolution lol
[08:25] <clearzen> coocaracha: checkinstall will build .deb packages and install after make or ./config
[08:25] <clearzen> coocaracha: you run checkinstall instead of makeinstall
[08:25] <|rellis|> SPF: modprobe sis900 ?
[08:26] <|rellis|> SPF: I believe that's the modual to support your card =/
[08:26] <|rellis|> module even..
[08:26] <SPF> |rellis|: im in the installation process
[08:26] <SPF> it isnt listed
[08:26] <|rellis|> SPF: Oh
[08:26] <DaBuss> ok, i'm tryin to update to edgy, but my repo's are going from 12-20kb/s and i dont think the problem is my connection or the rep servers
[08:26] <shachaf> When using gnome-panel with a window manager other than GNOME, the shutdown/reboot/suspend icon just closes the panel, instead of bringing up the shutdown dialog box. Is there any way of making it do that instead?
[08:26] <iammisc> how safe is it to use the newest gparted to resize ntfs partitions. Will it cauze my ntfs partition to explode?
[08:26] <SPF> oh wait, sis900 is listed
[08:26] <|rellis|> SPF: Use it then ;)
[08:27] <|rellis|> SPF: This is where I saw that.. http://kerneltrap.org/node/4838
[08:27] <cryptonic> can anyone help me get write access to my external hardrive
[08:28] <cryptonic> i think its fat but might be ntfs
[08:28] <SPF> well, he wont eat it
[08:28] <coocaracha> hmmm
[08:28] <clearzen> cryptonic: I can
[08:28] <coocaracha> how do i go abt doing this makeinstall stuifff?
[08:28] <ianmacgregor> shachaf: The command to bring up the gui logout window is: /usr/bin/gnome-session-save --gui --kill
[08:28] <|rellis|> SPF: It doesn't like the driver?
[08:28] <SPF> no
[08:28] <ianmacgregor> shachaf: I use that with openbox as my wm in gnome
[08:28] <AsheD> is it possible to change the name that Ubuntu appends to linked files?
[08:28] <SPF> it still says no ethernet card detected
[08:28] <iammisc> crpytonic: linux is ok with fat. For ntfs use ntfs-3g(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g). I hhave used ntfs-3g on linux with lots of luck
[08:29] <clearzen> coocaracha: What are you trying to compile??
[08:29] <coocaracha> fung-calc
[08:29] <ianmacgregor> !fung-calc
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fung-calc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <tiredbones> I want to thanks all those folk who help me work on my sound yesterday. These doc where also very helpful. Comprehensive Sound Problems Solutultio guide and Support cmedia sound card, where very helpful also.
[08:29] <clearzen> coocaracha: navigate to the folder with the source for fung-calc
[08:30] <coocaracha> it seems that theres always magical dev packages that i have to look for..,...lol
[08:30] <cryptonic> clearzen, how do i do it so?
[08:30] <shachaf> ianmacgregor: Do I have to be running gnome-session for that?
[08:30] <ianmacgregor> I want to personally thank all you who sit in this channel and answer questions. Ubuntu has an awesome community :)
[08:30] <clearzen> cryptonic: what kind of filesystem is it??
[08:30] <ianmacgregor> shachaf: Yes, if you're running gnome, it should work
[08:30] <coocaracha> ZOMG
[08:31] <|rellis|> SPF: I really think that's the correct driver.
[08:31] <coocaracha> im gonna go insane with this compile stuff
[08:31] <exs> Hello, Quick question, What do I need to install for the command "build-dep" to work? Thanks in advance
[08:31] <shachaf> ianmacgregor: I'm not running GNOME.
[08:31] <jelly-home> iammisc: it worked for me... ntfsprogs, which are used to handle ntfs in gparted, look quite reliable.
[08:31] <|rellis|> SPF: Or something similar..
[08:31] <shachaf> ianmacgregor: Just the panel.
[08:31] <|rellis|> SPF: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0409.0/0957.html
[08:31] <ianmacgregor> shachaf: Oh, then I have no idea
[08:31] <tiredbones>  ianmacgregor, I second that!
[08:31] <ianmacgregor> :)
[08:31] <cryptonic> not sure ntfs or fat32
[08:32] <shachaf> ianmacgregor: That gave me an idea, though, I think.
[08:32] <shachaf> ianmacgregor: Thanks for your help.
[08:32] <|rellis|> exs: You don't need to know, apt-get will figure it out for you ;)
[08:32] <DaBuss> ok, i'm tryin to update to edgy, but my repo's are going from 12-20kb/s and i dont think the problem is my connection or the rep servers....what else could be the problem?
[08:32] <cryptonic> clearzen , not sure ntfs or fat32
[08:32] <ianmacgregor> shachaf: You're welcome :)
[08:33] <exs> |rellis|:  Well, see I would use apt-get, but "xserver-xorg-driver-via" is not in the repositories.
[08:33] <jelly-home> iammisc: however gparted itself slightly fucked the disk geometry for me.  I have a laptop formatted with X/240/63 geometry and it used X/255/63 Windows bluescreened on shutdown until I fixed that.
[08:33] <clearzen> cryptonic: if it is fat32 then you can edit the fstab file. and change the uid to 000 and gid to 000
[08:33] <protex> ianmacgregor: Will that alternate CD allow me to customize my partitioning scheme?
[08:33] <cryptonic> wheres the fstab file?
[08:33] <clearzen> cryptonic: that would give everyone read/write
[08:33] <si9o> DaBuss, probably because ether they haven't allocated the bandwidth yet since it isn't in full release, or people are already dling it and the bandwidth is pegged already
[08:33] <clearzen> cryptonic: /etc/fstab
[08:33] <jelly-home> clearzen: surely you mean "1000"?
[08:33] <ianmacgregor> protex: Yes, I use it to setup my own parition scheme before installiung
[08:33] <iammisc> jelly-home: sorry new to this disk partitioning stuff what exactly is X/255/63 and X/240/63?
[08:34] <clearzen> jelly-home:  yeah, sorry
[08:34] <h00t> coocaracha, ... dude it's telling me it cannot find package "build-essentials"
[08:34] <ianmacgregor> protex: I have a feeling you're going to like the alternate cd
[08:34] <protex> ianmacgregor: And what is Ubuntu's default? I, personally use XFS. Does Ubuntu have any need for certain folders to be mounted on seperate paritions? (as /usr/portage/) in gentoo
[08:34] <coocaracha> h00t
[08:34] <|rellis|> exs: xserver-xorg-driver-via ? I have that installed via apt-get on my box =/
[08:34] <coocaracha> wat version of jewbuntu?
[08:34] <loudmouthman> Hello and goodevening.
[08:34] <h00t> hep
[08:34] <h00t> yep
[08:35] <coocaracha> h00t
[08:35] <h00t> wha't up
[08:35] <coocaracha> wat version of ubuntu
[08:35] <coocaracha> ?
[08:35] <diminthedam> hi.anyone know a good player/comp chess game for ubuntu?
[08:35] <|rellis|> exs: Do you have the universe/multiverse repos added?
[08:35] <ianmacgregor> protex: No idea about that, I just always use ext3 and the only custom thing I do is have /home on /dev/hdb1
[08:35] <RogerBacon> hey, how i add the SSL support when i compile gaim beta 4 ?
[08:35] <h00t> 6.06 LTS Drapper Drake
[08:35] <exs> |rellis|:  Yeah, well currently I#m trying to install my unichrome graphics driver, and ubuntu's wiki tells me to install xserver-xorg.. etc, but it's not in the repositories. I'm using 6.10 RC and I have universe and multiverse added
[08:35] <coocaracha> oh
[08:35] <coocaracha> soooo sorry
[08:36] <coocaracha> build-essential
[08:36] <protex> ianmacgregor: Alrighty, thank you. =)
[08:36] <coocaracha> no "s"
[08:36] <ianmacgregor> You're welcome :)
[08:36] <Puaff> thx :)
[08:36] <h00t> coocaracha, they change it from version to version by removing the "s" ...WTF ...
[08:36] <coocaracha> h00t
[08:36] <coocaracha> idk man
[08:36] <coocaracha> linux ppl are weird
[08:36] <coocaracha> lol
[08:37] <Puaff> does anyone get this error using less? less: Symbol `ospeed' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
[08:37] <|rellis|> exs: So "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-via" returns nothing?
[08:37] <|rellis|> exs: returns*
[08:37] <jelly-home> iammisc: that's logical disk geometry.  Usually in BIOS one can choose something like LBA, large or custom disk geometry. It's a relic from old times where you had to set up physical configuration of the disk in BIOS.
[08:37] <cryptonic> clearzen, when i go to /ect/fstab all i get are the two partitions on my sata drive, dont see the external drive there at all?
[08:38] <h00t> how will we top M$ w/ inconsistencies like this
[08:38] <RogerBacon> how to add SSL option support in gaim 2.0 beta 4 ?
[08:38] <clearzen> cryptonic:  you have to manually add it
[08:38] <clearzen> cryptonic: is it sda1?
[08:38] <|rellis|> RogerBacon: Ask in a gaim channel, but probably --with-ssl
[08:38] <cryptonic> i dunno
[08:38] <ianmacgregor> h00t: Ubuntu topped Windows a long time ago, IMHO
[08:38] <|rellis|> RogerBacon: A gnome/gaim channel would be a better place to ask that imo =p
[08:38] <exs> |rellis|:  I pm'd you..
[08:39] <|rellis|> exs: I didn't get your pm =/
[08:39] <cryptonic> clearzen, I dont know?
[08:39] <jelly-home> iammisc: however the numbers describing the geometry are part of the partition table format.  gparted wrongly assumed the most common geometry instead of what was already on disk.
[08:39] <h00t> ianmacgregor, yeah ... that's why it takes me 1/2 hour on irc to install a compiler
[08:39] <clearzen> cryptonic: you have to add something like this: /dev/sda1 /media/<foldername> owners,users,gid=1000,uid=1000      0        0
[08:39] <|rellis|> h00t: sudo apt-get install gcc took you a 1/2 hour?
[08:39] <h00t> meanin' ... not in easy of use
[08:39] <|rellis|> h00t: I couldn't take that long to install it if I tried..
[08:39] <ianmacgregor> h00t: Would have taken you 2 mins if you had done it correctly o.O
[08:40] <RogerBacon> |rellis| : haha, im stupid. thats work !
[08:40] <exs> exs@exs-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-viaReading package lists...  DoneBuilding dependency tree Reading state information... Done. Package xserver-xorg-driver-via is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: xserver-xorg-video-via E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-vi
[08:40] <exs> a has no installation candidate
[08:40] <h00t> the problem is that i actually have to know & REMMEMBER exact name of every package
[08:40] <h00t> synaptic & apt made it much better thoguh
[08:40] <|rellis|> exs: However the following packages replace it: xserver-xorg-video-via !!!!!!
[08:40] <ianmacgregor> h00t: Oh, yeah, that is a pitfall.. Linux requires you to be smart
[08:41] <iammisc> jelly-home:how do i know if this happens?
[08:41] <cryptonic> clearzen , i think its /dev/stb1/
[08:41] <|rellis|> exs: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-via !!!!!!
[08:41] <clearzen> cryptonic: you can find out by going to admin---->disks
[08:42] <quilzo> I'm using kubuntu and in tty1 (kde's running in tt7) I try to run x11perf -all, which I think should start the xserver... but I get "unable to open display " they couldn't help me in #kubuntu though
[08:42] <BlueLaguna> does ubuntu-server use the same repositories as the regular ubuntu distributions?
[08:42] <h00t> ianmacgregor, ... if being well versed in insult is "smart" you are already there
[08:42] <boink> BlueLaguna: yes
[08:42] <JDStone> is Edgy stable as of now?
[08:42] <boink> Edgy will be released formally on 26 October
[08:42] <ianmacgregor> :)
[08:42] <boink> !edgy
[08:42] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:43] <BlueLaguna> I've been using Edgy for a while now
[08:43] <JDStone> yes, I know when edgy will be released
[08:43] <h00t> is there a way to upgrade whole system to a new version w/out reinstall
[08:43] <JDStone> but is it stable
[08:43] <BlueLaguna> The only problem I've had is that it doesn't power down my computer anymore upon halt
[08:43] <JDStone> h00t: yes
[08:43] <|rellis|> Does ubuntu server use logical volumes for  /usr /var etc... by default?
[08:43] <JDStone> h00t: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate
[08:43] <h00t> thanx
[08:44] <BlueLaguna> h00t: the install cd has an upgrade option if I'm not mistaken
[08:44] <JDStone> np
[08:44] <protex> woot, iso is finished. I'm pumped!
[08:44] <ianmacgregor> protex: :)
[08:44] <h00t> where does linux store system variables ... like "path"
[08:44] <JDStone> ok, thanks BlueLaguna
[08:45] <JDStone> heh, maybe i'll just wait 'til 26th
[08:45] <jelly-home> iammisc: try running "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdX" (replace hdX with whatever disk you have, probably hda if IDE or sda if it's SATA). If it says "Heads: 255   Sectors per Track: 63" then you're using LBA geometry and this won't happen.  Probably. ;-)
[08:45] <ianmacgregor> protex: Some good URL's for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/ , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[08:45] <iammisc> ok
[08:45] <ianmacgregor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[08:45] <iammisc> cool thanks
[08:45] <mac`> Hiya..
[08:45] <iammisc>  if it does, ill ask you
[08:45] <protex> ianmacgregor: Alright, I have my crappy laptop on next to me, I'm going to join this channel from there so I can ask for guidance if need be
[08:46] <ianmacgregor> protex: Good idea
[08:46] <jelly-home> iammisc: however if it says 240 heads, there might be trouble.
[08:46] <ianmacgregor> protex: crappy laptop? you mean a craptop?
[08:46] <mac`> I'm having problems with this box acting very jerkily regardless of the window manager I use.
[08:46] <iammisc> ok. so i think il back up my documents and settings folder in windows, then resize the ntfs partition.
[08:46] <quilzo> I try to run x11perf -all, in tty1, which I think should start the xserver... but I get "unable to open display "
[08:46] <shuttle> re all
[08:46] <iammisc> thanks for all your help
[08:46] <protex> ianmacgregor: Precisely! P2 400mhz, meh get's the job done
[08:46] <|rellis|> re shuttle
[08:46] <shuttle> where can i take a win emulator plz ?
[08:46] <mac`> Small jerks seem to occur in pretty much everything every second or so.
[08:46] <finalbeta> When my PC comes back from standby, I can no longer use the TV card. Any suggestions?
[08:47] <BlueLaguna> JDStone: It really doesn't matter, you can just use apt-get to to keep it update
[08:47] <shuttle> i search but a link explain to me but i d ont understand :s what repository want to say :s ?
[08:47] <jelly-home> quilzo: x11perf won't start the server, that's just a test/benchmark app.
[08:47] <dcordes> someone using LIRC in here?
[08:47] <protex2> alrighty... here we go burning the iso
[08:47] <quilzo> jelly-home: do you know which will ?
[08:47] <mac`> Using http://haikz.org/test.c I count about 52 seconds per minute on this box. Another box counts to 60 fine.
[08:47] <BlueLaguna> *updated
[08:47] <jelly-home> quilzo: startx for example
[08:47] <|rellis|> dcordes: KVIrc 'till I die!!
[08:47] <quilzo> hmm
[08:48] <cntb> sorry for off-topic . pls take a moment to consider this contribution absolutely free  of charge http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/viewJoinNow.do
[08:48] <jelly-home> quilzo: but the x server should start automatically on ubuntu
[08:48] <finalbeta> When my PC comes back from standby, I can no longer use the TV card. Any suggestions?
[08:49] <mac`> Using the included CPU monitoring panel applet I can't see any spectacular CPU usage spikes, but some small bumps do occur.
[08:49] <dcordes> rellis lirc is a program that takes up infrared signals lol
[08:49] <jelly-home> finalbeta: tried unloading the drivers from kernel and modprobing them back?
[08:49] <quilzo> jelly-home: it won't co-exist with the xserver running on tty7... is there a workaround ?
[08:50] <finalbeta> jelly-home, no, that would be a quest for me :p
[08:50] <jelly-home> quilzo: yes, start another one.
[08:50] <jelly-home> quilzo: startx -- :1
[08:50] <quilzo> i'll try that
[08:50] <|rellis|> dcordes: Oh, lol, label me stupid
[08:51] <quilzo> gives the same error
[08:51] <kaosx> Anyone here good with networking, Im trying to work on converting a script I wrote in windows to linux and having a small problem finding a replacement
[08:51] <jelly-home> finalbeta: you're going to embark on a perilous journey!
[08:51] <jhujhiti_> I'm running the latest fglrx drivers, and whenever I try to use Xv, Xorg crashes to the console, restarts, and leaves no logs behind. Any ideas?
[08:51] <jelly-home> quilzo: what error?
[08:51] <ianmacgregor> cntb: Please do NOT advertise anything on this channel. This is a support channel for Ubuntu and that is all it is for.
[08:51] <|rellis|> kaosx: ?
[08:52] <kaosx> yeah, the command in windows is "net view | find "\\" . list.txt" which lists all the hostnames on the current subnet
[08:52] <AdamKili> help: error with gnome-splashscreen-manager. here's what it says in the terminal: /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[08:52] <kaosx> and writes them to a text file
[08:52] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Alright, burnt! This is exciting, lol... Hope this goes by quickly though, I got a report to write tonight.
[08:52] <quilzo> jelly-home: display 0 already used
[08:53] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Coming from gentoo, I don't think you'll have any prbos
[08:53] <|rellis|> kaosx: A system can have 5 hostsnames..
[08:53] <|rellis|> kaosx: I don't see how that could be very conclusive =/
[08:53] <kaosx> its just a list of hostnames in a network, or IP's for that matter
[08:53] <protex2> ianmacgregor, =) More than anything probably just getting used to the way ubuntu is constructed
[08:53] <kaosx> either one doesnt matter
[08:54] <quilzo> jelly-home: "server already active for display 0"
[08:54] <ianmacgregor> protex2: And using a *real* package manager? o.O
[08:54] <jelly-home> quilzo: you didn't type it correctly. it should have tried to start a server on display :1
[08:54] <|rellis|> kaosx: Nmap might do what you want.
[08:54] <quilzo> i did startx --:1 ...
[08:54] <protex2> ianmacgregor, haha. Alright I';m assuming I want to install in text mode?
[08:54] <kaosx> yeah, I had thought of that, it usually returns more infor than needed though
[08:54] <cntb> ianmacgregor: not to worry check it anyway  pls now that you answered. and no I usually dont do such things. i guess you never came close to cancer issue
[08:54] <quilzo> I know it was supposed to, but it didn't
[08:54] <jelly-home> quilzo: "startx -- :1"  note the space between -- and :1
[08:55] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Just kidding. But, I am amazed at apt, I tried to break it by installing and uninstalling tons of stuff, and it was like "that all you got? pffft"
[08:55] <quilzo> stupid font -_-"
[08:55] <jelly-home> quilzo: copy/paste ftw!
[08:55] <SPF> |rellis|: I'm done installing, insmod sis900.ko doesnt work, file exist, although eth0 doesnt exist
[08:55] <protex2> ianmacgregor, lol, looking forward to it. Now I'm to select install via text mode, correct?
[08:55] <ianmacgregor> cntb: I refused to read spammed advertisements
[08:55] <kaosx> apt is very reliabe, Im going to install slackware on my test system later tonight to try it out
[08:55] <kaosx> i was gonna add slapt-get to it
[08:55] <finalbeta> jelly-home, found several modules for my card using modprobe -l | grep 7134, but when unloading them using sudo modprobe -r saa7134 , I get an error, module in use, FATAL.
[08:56] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Yes
[08:56] <quilzo> jelly-home: true
[08:56] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Unless you just want the base, then its the server
[08:56] <jelly-home> finalbeta: you'll have to unload all the modules which use it first (those on the right hand side in lsmod output).
[08:56] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Either way, you can build quickly and easily from either cli (apt-get) or gui (synaptic)
[08:56] <fresco> does anyone now if there's a visual editor for Gnome themes?
[08:57] <SPF> sis900 is loading during boot, but it doesnt find RTL8201. It's an onboard ethernet controller
[08:57] <fresco> rather than trial and error in the config file
[08:57] <vandit2k7> can anybody help me with gaim installation........
[08:57] <ianmacgregor> fresco: Been looking for one of those for a while and haven't found one
[08:57] <Railer> can anyone suggest which is the best mail server to use with webmin?
[08:57] <|rellis|> SPF: Hmmm...
[08:57] <fresco> ianmacgregor, i'm surprised
[08:57] <|rellis|> SPF: I see several listing of people using that driver for that card
[08:57] <ianmacgregor> fresco: Me too
[08:57] <andy> hi all, how do you use the murrina engine?  I installed it and nothing seems to have changed
[08:57] <SPF> also, when I do lspci, it list only nVidia crap
[08:58] <SPF> I have no pci cards in use
[08:58] <|rellis|> SPF: http://www.themoes.org/linux/pcg-grt160/
[08:58] <jelly-home> SPF: AGP and PCIe cards are listed in lspci too.
[08:58] <|rellis|> SPF: "SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet. Also mentions: "Realtek RTL8201 PHY transceiver" sis900 kernel module. Works fine out-of-the-box."
[08:58] <quilzo> jelly-home: : thanks a lot, a shame that it crashed somewhere around windows manager loader :)
[08:59] <SPF> jelly-home: thx for the tip, didnt know :)
[09:00] <SPF> althought I have no agp card either
[09:00] <SPF> vga onboard too
[09:00] <SPF> s/ought/ough
[09:00] <AdamKili> can anyone help me? hello?
[09:00] <emerge> hi guys. advice me please, which pop3 server it is better to use...  used cyrus. But may be there is more interesting things.. :)
[09:00] <dcordes> me too please lol
[09:00] <jelly-home> SPF: the onboard card is either agp or pcie.
[09:00] <andy> hey, what GTK theme would you reccomend?
[09:00] <tich> what is the most professional-ish video editing program?
[09:01] <anon32> if I have a tar of my entire file system, can I use that to reinstall my system?
[09:01] <anandrd> Has anyone compiled openafs on edgy?
[09:01] <andy> Premeir
[09:01] <fresco> andy: i like silicon
[09:01] <fresco> but i was trying to make a white-on-black theme
[09:01] <jelly-home> emerge: better for what?
[09:01] <andy> fresco, tryed it, didnt care for it
[09:01] <Railer> can anyone suggest which is the best mail server to use with webmin?
[09:01] <compengi> i installed frostwire but when i try to run it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27698/ what should i install to make it work?
[09:01] <anon32> um, yes, no, maybe?
[09:01] <quilzo> I'm trying to mount an ntfs-partition... getting error (kio_media_mounthelper) : "mount: can't find /dev/sda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Please check that the device is plugged correctly"
[09:02] <anon32> quilzo, mount -t ntfs /dev/foo /mnt/bar
[09:02] <andy> I want to use the murrina engine but I cant figure out how to use it
[09:02] <emerge> now for training purposes. after training, maybe at work.
[09:02] <strabes> quilzo, that means you have the name wrong
[09:02] <quilzo> anon32: what's /mnt ?
[09:03] <strabes> quilzo: that's the folder where mounted devices are located
[09:03] <ianmacgregor> fresco: Still there?
[09:03] <strabes> quilzo: like ipods external harddrives etc
[09:03] <bailux> mount
[09:03] <emerge> jelly-home: now for training purposes. after training, maybe at work.
[09:03] <anon32> quilzo: just a generic folder
[09:03] <anon32> I use /media, but any directory works
[09:03] <anon32> long as it's empty
[09:03] <bailux> partition
[09:03] <fresco> ianmacgregor, yes
[09:03] <anandrd> i am trying to compile openafs module on edgy but it fails
[09:04] <jelly-home> emerge: I heard good things about dovecot
[09:04] <anon32> question: I have a tar of my file system, can I use that to reinstall?
[09:04] <ianmacgregor> fresco: You might /join ##gnome  and try to get hold of Juhaz and see if he knows of a gnome theme creation app
[09:04] <fresco> ok, thanks
[09:04] <ianmacgregor> fresco: Juhaz is quite good with gnome stuff
[09:04] <atom> what package u need to write to fat32 drives?
[09:04] <anon32> atom, none
[09:05] <atom> i mounted it but cant make any folders / et
[09:05] <atom> c
[09:05] <atom> in /mnt
[09:05] <anon32> atom - ls -l (mountpoint)
[09:05] <emerge> jelly-home: )) used dovecot... nice thing, really... it is simple in use... and so one
[09:05] <AdamKili> help i get this error when trying to run gnome-splashscreen-manager: /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[09:05] <atom> whats that cmd do?
[09:05] <jelly-home> emerge: but you should think about what features do you need first, then look for software
[09:05] <anon32> atom, lists your directory and the permissions... actually, try (mountpoint/..
[09:06] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Alright, base system is installing... =] 
[09:06] <jelly-home> emerge: eg. are you going to have multiple domains?  thousands of users?  What mailbox format are you going to use?
[09:06] <PAK_013> I have mobile phone nokia 7610 and i want to share files betwean mobile phone and computer. I have usb cable ca-53... Question is: How to share files... what software to use... do I need drivers for phone?
[09:06] <ianmacgregor> protex2: :)
[09:06] <atom> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root     475844 2004-11-12 09:34 OggDS0995.exe
[09:07] <anon32> atom, the mount point belongs to root, you can't write because you don't have permission
[09:07] <ianmacgregor> protex2: You gonna want a desktop/wm on that? If so, which one?
[09:07] <emerge> jelly-home: Need good mysql integration and/or backup posibilities
[09:07] <atom> how u change owner?
[09:07] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Probably going to go with gnome... so is that an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[09:07] <anon32> atom, chown user:group directory
[09:07] <atom> im not in a grp am i?
[09:07] <atom> user?
[09:07] <ianmacgregor> protex2: exactly :)
[09:08] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Awesome, I'm assuming that takes care of xorg as well.
[09:08] <AdamKili> help i get this error when trying to run gnome-splashscreen-manager: /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[09:08] <compengi> i installed frostwire but when i try to run it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27698/ what should i install to make it work?
[09:08] <anon32> atom, no, the way file permissions work is that there's an owner, a privileged group, and everyone else
[09:08] <anon32> atom, in your case, root is both the owner and the privileged group
[09:08] <atom> whats my group?
[09:08] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Keep in mnd that ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package (it pulls in all the needed files for gnome desktop), after installing it, you can remove ubuntu-desktop without causing a problem.
[09:09] <anon32> atom, err.... you can see a list of groups in users-admin
[09:09] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Yeah, that will pull in xorg too
[09:09] <atom> k. thnx
[09:09] <PAK_013> I have mobile phone nokia 7610 and i want to share files betwean mobile phone and computer. I have usb cable ca-53... Question is: How to share files... what software to use... do I need drivers for phone?
[09:09] <anon32> atom, you could just chown root:username /mnt
[09:09] <anon32> every user is also a group
[09:09] <quilzo> anon32: I got the error "can't open /mnt"
[09:10] <jelly-home> PAK_013: you don't have to repeat
[09:10] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Aye, and im going to want to enable those extra repos, so is that in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:10] <quilzo> or something like that, I'll just give up
[09:10] <anon32> quilzo, lol
[09:10] <afief> I downloaded a 700 MB iso file using wget -c and it turned out to be 800+ MB, how can i correct this?:S
[09:10] <quilzo> the device is 'busy' now
[09:10] <atom> chown: changing ownership of `/mnt': Operation not permitted
[09:10] <atom> lol
[09:10] <anon32> quilzo: join me in #anon32 - I'll walk you through it
[09:10] <fresco> ianmacgregor: no luck there
[09:10] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Yes, you can do that in vim (cli) or in gui. But, remember, Ubuntu uses sudo. Use sudo for cli apps and use gksudo for gui apps.
[09:10] <atom> i sudo it too
[09:10] <ianmacgregor> fresco: :(
[09:11] <AdamKili> help i get this error when trying to run gnome-splashscreen-manager: /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[09:11] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Got it, why is my install now installing xorg  by itself? lol
[09:11] <fresco> one other thing - is there a way to get the login screen to select a user automatically when there's only one user, like OS X does?
[09:11] <jelly-home> afief: no easy way, unless the remote side supports rsync.
[09:11] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Can't have gnome without xorg ;)
[09:12] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Wait, you chose the server install and it's installing xorg?
[09:12] <protex2> ianmacgregor, I haven't apt-get'd yet, the install went to 'Select and Install software' is this still part of the base system?
[09:12] <protex2> ianmcgregor, yeah hrm...
[09:12] <ianmacgregor> protex2: I have never used the server install I always used the "Install in text mode" option
[09:12] <h00t> bye all
[09:12] <fluxinator> are backports safe?
[09:12] <protex2> ianmacgregor, That's what I used, install in text mode.
[09:12] <afief> jelly-home: well, does the ubuntu etch server support it?
[09:13] <atom> every time i try to install something ... anything... like dmraid it starts setting up vmware player.....  vmware install failed before.
[09:13] <ianmacgregor> protex2: What is it asking for?
[09:13] <protex2> ianmacgregor, nothing just went on and installed openoffice too, I resetted PC to see what I did wrong now
[09:13] <bailux> cd do not run
[09:13] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Ok, sounds like it's going ahead with the text mode install, sounds good
[09:13] <jelly-home> afief: say what?  ubuntu or etch?
[09:14] <protex2> ianmacgregor, should I have chosen install a command-line system?
[09:14] <greg> !schedule
[09:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:14] <ianmacgregor> protex2: That is totally up to you, depending on your needs. You can build the desktop from either the server or the text mode, it doesn't matter.
[09:14] <jelly-home> afief: I don't know if ubuntu's mirrors support rsync.  One would hope so.
[09:14] <afief> jelly-home: ubuntu edgy etch, that's the iso i downloaded
[09:14] <afief> jelly-home: how can i check?
[09:15] <ianmacgregor> protex2: You can also install the LAMP stack later too, it's easy
[09:15] <protex2> ianmacgregor, command line system means the server option?
[09:15] <ianmacgregor> yes
[09:15] <fluxinator> Can I safely use backports?
[09:16] <clearzen> Can anyone tell me how to send a remote x session to a winxp machine using putty?
[09:16] <Heartsbane> fluxinator: define safe, because I used it all the time for xorg
[09:16] <hurax> putty can't do x
[09:17] <hurax> you need an x server for windows
[09:17] <iratsu_> is ubuntu installable from floppy?
[09:17] <clearzen> It says it can do X11 sessions through ssh.
[09:17] <compengi> ianmacgregor, i installed frostwire but when i try to run it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27698/
[09:17] <jelly-home> afief: check on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive if your mirror supports rsync
[09:18] <fluxinator> Heartsbane, will my comp explode if i USE ut
[09:18] <fluxinator> *it
[09:18] <ctrlbreak> use vnc  or xdcmp for remote
[09:18] <ctrlbreak> vnc easier
[09:18] <ianmacgregor> compengi: I've never used frostwire but it looks like you need to install/upgrade your JRE (Java Runtime Environment)
[09:19] <emerge> jelly-home:http: thank's for help.. I will likely use dovecot  www.dovecot.org/security.html
[09:19] <compengi> iammisc, how to do it?
[09:19] <jelly-home> afief: then try running "rsync -P rsync://path/to/your.iso ."
[09:19] <ianmacgregor> !java > compengi
[09:19] <compengi> ianmacgregor, how to do it?
[09:19] <jelly-home> afief: rsync should download only the differences between the files.
[09:19] <OpaH> Hi, running 6.06.1 (xubuntu) on a Toshiba-Tecra from CDROM && PCMCIA works.
[09:19] <OpaH> Once installed, at reboot, PCMCIA card insert returns
[09:19] <OpaH>   "cs: unable to map card memory!"
[09:19] <OpaH> This same Laptop has been running various Debian flavours since end of the
[09:19] <OpaH> last century, but is getting a little underpowered for todays distributions.
[09:19] <OpaH> What is the difference between the installer.iso's kernel
[09:19] <OpaH> and the resulting installed kernel?
[09:19] <amar-ze> Hi anyone know how to make two ppp connections running in same time. I have dsl-provider and dsl-provider2 but I run one at the time.I need to have ppp0 and ppp1 at same time
[09:19] <afief> jelly-home: don't all mirrors host the same file?
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> clearzen: you can freenx and using nxclient
[09:20] <jelly-home> afief: not all mirrors have rsync support
[09:20] <fluxinator> !backports
[09:20] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:20] <compengi> ianmacgregor, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:20] <compengi> Reading package lists... Done
[09:20] <compengi> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:20] <compengi> sun-java5-jre is already the newest version.
[09:20] <compengi> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:20] <afief> jelly-home: but if any of them does, i can use it, right?
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> clearzen: I have never really set it up but you can see an example of that at cosmopod.net
[09:20] <jelly-home> afief: correct
[09:21] <ianmacgregor> compengi: As I said, I don't know anything about frostwire, maybe someone else can help youwith it
[09:21] <clearzen> TheGateKeeper: thank you
[09:21] <RMorris84> my desktop is gone.. its like i can see my wallpaper, but like i cant right click it or anything, and none of my icons are there. What can i do? is this common? everything else works, like my menu bars and taskbars, and i can goto my desktop folder and see it but nothing is on there.
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> clearzen: yw :-)
[09:21] <compengi> ianmacgregor, ok nvm thank you from your help :)
[09:21] <ianmacgregor> RMorris84: run nautilus
[09:21] <compengi> does anyone here use frostwire?
[09:21] <atom> so how do i mount a driver properly if doing it through the disk manager gives all perms to root???
[09:21] <atom> *drive
[09:21] <Warbo> compengi: I have a tiny little bit of experience with it, what's up?
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> RMorris84: killall nautilus
[09:22] <amar-ze> RMorris84: try sudo killall nautilus
[09:22] <bailux> hi!! I would like good action games on ubuntu,same link?
[09:22] <RMorris84> ahh! ok that worked
[09:22] <Warbo> atom: I found that annoying the other day. I generally add the option "uid=myusername" to a mount command line
[09:22] <RMorris84> :) why is that happening?
[09:22] <compengi> Warbo, when i try to run it it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27698/
[09:22] <ctrlbreak> i use frostwire i installed it via automatix
[09:22] <iradio> I'm trying to access smb shares in konqueror and it instead of asking me for a password it is just saying there are no files and folders in the share.
[09:23] <ianmacgregor> RMorris84: nautilus manages the desktop and something happened to cause it to not run correctly
[09:23] <compengi> Warbo, but i have the latest jre 1.5 =/
[09:23] <iammisc> jelly-home: gparted livecd tells me that the disk geometry is heads: 255 and sectors per track: 63
[09:23] <iammisc> jelly-home: does this mean i can resize my ntfs partition safely?
[09:23] <anon32> what's in the backports repos?
[09:23] <iammisc> jelly-home: should i defragment my disk first?
[09:23] <protex2> ianmacgregor, okay base install completed
[09:24] <amar-ze> ok I am gonna repeat :p
[09:24] <amar-ze> Hi anyone know how to make two ppp connections running in same time. I have dsl-provider and dsl-provider2 but I run one at the time.I need to have ppp0 and ppp1 at same time
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Now, log in and have fun :)
[09:24] <Warbo> compengi: hang on a sec, my machine is going SLOW
[09:24] <protex2> ianmacgregor, and I get a kernel panic, yay!
[09:24] <fluxinator> anon32, newer packages
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> protex2: :(
[09:24] <jelly-home> iammisc: yes, that means you won't stumble onto that particular problem.  Also, no need to defrag, but it shouldn't hurt.
[09:25] <at0mic_> warbo, thanks. whats the mount cmd?
[09:25] <protex2> ianmacgregor, fixed it... grub had a ad entry.
[09:25] <jelly-home> iammisc: of course, always backup your data before using any partition resizing tool.
[09:25] <jmitchj> can someone tell me what this command does exactly...sudo ndiswrapper -m?
[09:26] <anon32> yay, trying backports
[09:26] <ianmacgregor> protex2: Wow, this distro may end up being boring for you
[09:26] <Warbo> at0mic_: Do you know the device name? (like /dev/hda1 or something like that. System>Admin>Discs should say). If so then first do "sudo umount <devicename>" then do "sudo mount <devicename" <mountpoint> -o uid=yourusername" where <mountpoint> is the folder you want to put it in, so maybe /home/yourusername/stuff or something (the folder must exist though)
[09:26] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Haha, now how do I sync apt?
[09:26] <clearzen> jmitchj: it inserts ndiswrapper as a module loading durnig boot
[09:27] <jmitchj> clearzen: what does this message mean then? adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ...
[09:27] <jmitchj> couldn't add module alias:  at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 714.
[09:27] <Warbo> compengi: You tried "sudo update-alternatives --config java"?
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> protex2: sudo apt-get update  will update the sources and sudo apt-get upgrade will update your apps
[09:27] <compengi> Warbo, no i didn't
[09:27] <ianmacgregor> protex2: You'll also need a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade the kernel
[09:27] <csaba> Hello
[09:28] <Warbo> compengi: That sets the default Java to use. I think it is set to GCJ or something by default, so change that and you should be good to go
[09:28] <clearzen> jmitchj: It means wlan0  modules will automaticly be loaded on boot
[09:28] <protex2> ianmacgregor, yeah hat are my options in terms of kernels...
[09:28] <clearzen> jmitchj: aka your wireless
[09:28] <compengi> Warbo, it said to choose one of those 1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[09:28] <compengi> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[09:28] <compengi>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:28] <jmitchj> clearzen: so that's not an error message
[09:28] <Warbo> compengi: choose 3
[09:28] <clearzen> jmitchj: no, it means you did it correctly
[09:28] <Scorpmoon> is there a channel for ubuntu server?
[09:28] <Flibberdy> Hi all.. if I install Kubuntu after my initial ubuntu install will i be left with both gnome and kde libraries?
[09:28] <ianmacgregor> protex2: I always just accept the default one, however, you can open synaptic, search for kernel and have a look
[09:28] <jmitchj> clearzen: even though it says couldn;t add?
[09:28] <compengi> Warbo, Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number: 3
[09:29] <compengi> Using `/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' to provide `java'.
[09:29] <csaba> Can somebody help me with Edgy Efts DNS name resolve :)
[09:29] <clearzen> oh, i didn't see that
[09:29] <Warbo> Flibberdy: If you install Kubuntu as in the kubuntu-desktop package then yes. If you install Kubuntu from a CD then it will obviously wipe your drive :)
[09:29] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[09:29] <leetcharmer> how's it goin'?
[09:29] <ianmacgregor> protex2: I know there are a few but I don't know the package names/versions
[09:29] <Scorpmoon> what's the best tutorial about LAMP on the net, perhaps specific for ubuntu server?
[09:29] <jmitchj> clearzen: couldn't add module alias:  at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 714.
[09:29] <Warbo> compengi: Try FrostWire now
[09:29] <protex2> ianmacgregor, I'll search for them. Also, what are the US mirrors for apt, the CA ones are slow for me >_<;
[09:30] <jmitchj> clearzen: is that because my wireless card comes up as eth1?
[09:30] <clearzen> jmitchj: you are getting this error after typing ndiswrapper -m ??
[09:30] <leetcharmer> how do I add cool looking effects to my xchat?
[09:30] <jmitchj> clearzen: yeah
[09:30] <ianmacgregor> protex2: have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list .. you can replace the "ca" with "us" in there and it may be faster
[09:30] <leetcharmer> like transparent background?
[09:30] <compengi> Warbo, it worked
[09:30] <Warbo> compengi: Yay :)
[09:30] <compengi> Warbo, thank you
[09:31] <protex2> ianmacgregor, Hrmm,  yeah I tried that and it's actually slower...
[09:31] <clearzen> jmitchj: is your wireless card active right now?
[09:31] <Warbo> compengi: If you want a GUI for that by the way then there is "galternatives" package
[09:31] <ianmacgregor> protex2: I'll paste my sources.list, hold on
[09:31] <jmitchj> clearzen: it's up, cause my blue light is on...but i'm not near a wireless connection to test it
[09:31] <clearzen> jmitchj: if so try sudo ifdown eth1 and then try sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:31] <Qaldune> hi all
[09:31] <Qaldune> i've got a problem with ubuntu
[09:32] <protex2> ianmacgregor, paste it in #protex please
[09:32] <compengi> Warbo, okay, thank you very much :)
[09:32] <grr555> hello
[09:32] <ianmacgregor> protex2: This is the list I use: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27699/
[09:32] <Warbo> Qaldune: Ask and ye shall receive (hopefully)
[09:32] <Qaldune> i need to compile and install ndiswrapper to make mi wifi adaptor works so i would need make and gcc
[09:32] <compengi> Warbo, btw it looks like limewire lol
[09:32] <grr555> I'm having trouble with my fglrx drivers
[09:32] <Qaldune> are make and gcc in the cd?
[09:32] <Warbo> Qaldune: Install the package "build-essential"
[09:32] <grr555> I'm following the guide at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:32] <grr555> and I've restarted my computer like it says
[09:32] <csaba> I just installed a fresh Edgy Eft on my laptop, entered into my hosts list 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost csaba and into DNS the same ip, this was working under dapper but it doesnt work for edgy. Now Edgy is not resolving any names I can ping anything but no ICQ, apt or webpage works
[09:32] <Qaldune> warbo: must i have internet connection to install that?
[09:33] <Qaldune> is it included in the cd?
[09:33] <Warbo> compengi: I thought it basically IS LimeWire, but with some of the crappy bits taken off? (I use GTK-Gnutella so I don't know really)
[09:33] <Warbo> Qaldune: I think it is on the CD
[09:33] <grr555> but now when I type fglrxinfo it says Mesa GLX indirect
[09:33] <jmitchj> clearzen: result of ndiswrapper -m: modprobe config already contains alias directive
[09:33] <Qaldune> ok
[09:33] <Qaldune> what would be the command to install that?
[09:33] <grr555> and it won't let me load the fglrx module
[09:33] <fiveiron> ok, so my baby daughter seems to have stopped my 6.10 upgrade... and i'm having some issues removing courier-authdaemon.  it tells me to reinstall it before attempting to remove.  but every time i try to install it I get errors
[09:33] <at0mic_> thnx warbo!
[09:33] <Qaldune> apt-get build-essentials?
[09:33] <jmitchj> clearzen: but the first command you had me do took away the blue light on my laptop
[09:33] <grr555> I get some error about fglrx:firegl_init_module *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed. in dmesg
[09:34] <fluxinator> wow thats odd. I removed firefox some time ago, and now backports wont allow me to update without firefox
[09:34] <clearzen> jmitchj: try sudo ifup wlan0
[09:34] <Flannel> Qaldune: with sudo in front of it
[09:34] <Qaldune> ok
[09:34] <DigitalNinja> I compiled samba from source. I installed it in /usr/local/samba. Where do the config files go?
[09:34] <Qaldune> and last question
[09:34] <Qaldune> i'm an old suse user
[09:34] <light_> hey, how can i remove the old flash 7?
[09:34] <Warbo> Qaldune: Run this, exactly as I type it but without the quotes: "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[09:34] <jmitchj> clearzen: sudo ifup wlan0
[09:34] <anon32> light_, go to your firefox/mozilla directory and then cd to the plugins dir
[09:34] <jmitchj> clearzen: Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[09:35] <anon32> delete the flash plugin
[09:35] <leetcharmer> my laptop mouse's scroll isn't working in edgy -- how can I fix this?
[09:35] <clearzen> jmitchj:what interfaces do you have when you type ifconfig -a
[09:35] <Qaldune> and i don't like to use sudo everytime i want to make smthg as root so how can i disable that sudo stuff and make things like they've always been?
[09:35] <light_> anon32, OK, thanks
[09:36] <anon32> light_, this isn't Windows... you can just uninstall stuff by deleting it :-)
[09:36] <clearzen> Qaldune: sudo passwd root
[09:36] <Warbo> Qaldune: "sudo -s -H" lets you become root, so if you run "passwd" as root then you can give root a password and thus enable the account
[09:36] <jmitchj> clearzen: eth0...eth1...lo....sit0
[09:36] <Qaldune> yes i knew that
[09:36] <clearzen> Qaldune: set password and then use su to get root
[09:36] <Qaldune> but for example when i want to run any program that makes use of kde-sudo it always reject my pass
[09:36] <SPF> |rellis|: gentoo livecd uses forcedeth.c to initialize the rtl8201 ethernet card
[09:37] <Qaldune> and i can't even login in X as root
[09:37] <SPF> any chance to use it with ubuntu too?
[09:37] <Warbo> Qaldune: You are using you USER password and not the root password aren't you? (sudo doesn't use root password, it uses the regular user's )
[09:37] <anon32> how can you tell if you have ntfs-3g installed?
[09:37] <compengi> Warbo, do you know any other p2p software like frostwire?
 light_, this isn't Windows... you can just uninstall stuff by deleting it :-)
[09:37] <light_> :P
[09:37] <Qaldune> no
[09:37] <jmitchj> clearzen: how to i reverse the sudo ifdown eth1...cause that deactivated the card
[09:37] <Qaldune> i put the root pass
[09:37] <Warbo> Qaldune: Honestly, do NOT log into X as root
[09:37] <clearzen>  jmitchj:one sec i'm at work
[09:37] <Qaldune> warbo
[09:37] <Qaldune> i'm not new at linux
[09:37] <Qaldune> i know what i do
[09:37] <Qaldune> i'm just new at ubuntu
[09:38] <Warbo> Qaldune: If you are experienced with Linux then you should know full well why it is stupid to log in graphically as root
[09:38] <kitche> !enter
[09:38] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:38] <Qaldune> warbo
[09:38] <light_> anon32, just delete this - ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[09:38] <light_> ?
[09:38] <Qaldune> it's more comfortable to do some things as root in X
[09:38] <Qaldune> and i just want to do it
[09:38] <Qaldune> if you can help plz do it
[09:38] <anon32> light_, yea
[09:38] <Warbo> compengi: MLDonkey is good, but I have had mixed experiences with the repo's version (I have written a guide to it on help.ubuntu.com/community)
[09:38] <light_> cool
[09:39] <light_> i love linux so bad
[09:39] <Warbo> Qaldune: There is gksudo for graphical apps
[09:39] <light_> :P
[09:39] <clearzen>  jmitchj: try to bring up eth1. Although I have to say it is strange that it is reconizing your wireless as eth1
[09:39] <Qaldune> well
[09:39] <kitche> Qaldune: you have to enable root logins for kdm/gdm
[09:39] <kitche> !gdm
[09:39] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[09:39] <Karark> is there a ubuntu forum channel?
[09:39] <Warbo> "gksudo nautilus /" for example would open the file manager in / with root permissions
[09:39] <clearzen>  jmitchj: I would think it would be sit0 instead
[09:39] <Qaldune> warbo
[09:39] <Praxi> I'm new at linux in general, installed Ubuntu and messed up my boot hehe.  I was successfully dual booting XP and Red Hat ES 4, decided to try Ubuntu had it erase my partitions, now I can't seem to write new partitions
[09:40] <jmitchj> clearzen: that did turn the blue light back on
[09:40] <Qaldune> when i try to start a graphical app in kde when i'm login in X as normal user but login in konsole as root it always fails
[09:40] <XVampireX> karark: Yeah
[09:40] <compengi> Warbo, can i get it by apt-get mldonkey?
[09:40] <XVampireX> Karark, #ubuntuforums
[09:40] <Qaldune> login->logged sorry
[09:40] <everamzah> prolly cause u were fucking around with root qaldune
[09:40] <clearzen>  jmitchj: does it see your wireless network?
[09:40] <XVampireX> !info mldonkey
[09:40] <ubotu> Package mldonkey does not exist in any distro I know
[09:40] <XVampireX> weee :P
[09:40] <kitche> !language
[09:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:40] <Warbo> !info mldonkey-server
[09:40] <Karark> thankyou XVampireX
[09:40] <concept10> where may I find a sources.list for edgy? or should I change from dapper to edgy?
[09:40] <Praxi> I got ubuntu installed, but grub freezes at "Grub _" so I figured I would install RHES again and have it boot between the 3 OS's
[09:40] <ubotu> mldonkey-server: Door to the 'donkey' network. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2900 kB, installed size 7960 kB
[09:40] <kitche> concept10: just change dapper
[09:41] <jmitchj> clearzen: so should the alias in modprobe.d be alias eth1 instead of alias wlan0
[09:41] <Qaldune> everamzah i tried to do it just after start the system first time using sudo
[09:41] <XVampireX> kmldonkey - KDE GUI for MLDonkey
[09:41] <XVampireX> mldonkey-gui - Graphical frontend for mldonkey based on GTK
[09:41] <clearzen>  jmitchj: yes
[09:41] <Warbo> http://sancho-gui.sf.net is the best GUI for MLDonkey in my opinion
[09:41] <Warbo> (I think that address is right, let me check)
[09:41] <concept10> kitche, thanks ... are you on edgy yet
[09:41] <Qaldune> well...
[09:41] <Qaldune> anyway
[09:41] <Qaldune> thx you guys
[09:41] <jmitchj> clearzen: i was just trying to get the card to activate...i'm not near my wireless network today
[09:41] <Scorpmoon> does ubuntu server come with an ftp server?
[09:41] <kitche> concept10: no I don't use ubuntu myself
[09:42] <clearzen>  jmitchj: oh, i see.
[09:42] <at0mic_> anyone run a 550 theater thru linux?
[09:42] <jmitchj> clearzen: it doesn;t show up in my networkmanager though....will it only show after a reboot maybe?
[09:42] <at0mic_> what apps good for mpeg capture cards?
[09:42] <jasonmog> how do i reinstall grub? vista overwrote the MBR. i'm using kubuntu for linux but i can't get in to it any more. my hard disk is split into 3 partitions for xp, vista, kubuntu in that order
[09:43] <Warbo> !grub > jasonmog
[09:43] <anon32> can I do a dist-upgrade in increments? I don't have a very fast connection
[09:43] <clearzen>  jmitchj: you could try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:43] <jasonmog> yay thanks Warbo
[09:43] <Karark> I need help, I cannot log into the forum but it says "Thank you for logging in, (my name)"... but then I'm not logged in when it redirects.
[09:44] <Scorpmoon> is there a channel for ubuntu server?
[09:44] <everamzah> ;)
[09:44] <Warbo> anon32: Updates will only be applied once everything has been downloaded, so you can download a few packages, cancel the upgrade, then carry on from where you left off later. Once they have finished downloading though you should leave them all to install
[09:44] <kitche> Karark: it's a cookie problem dealing with your browser
[09:44] <Karark> kitche: should I search that cookie out and delete it?
[09:44] <anon32> Warbo, since it's just a bunch of packages, can I just upgrade them one by one with synaptic?
[09:45] <kitche> Karark: you can I usually do it though the browser myself
[09:45] <Karark> kitche: it started happening after using Google Browser Sync...should I go do a bug repot?
[09:45] <rvalles> hi
[09:45] <Scorpmoon> what ftp server deamon do you guys use?
[09:45] <jmitchj> clearzen: will it only show if i'm near a wireless network though?
[09:45] <Warbo> anon32: I wouldn't recommend that. If the Internet connection is the only real problem then the method I described should work well, then you can just leave it upgrading the system overnight or something
[09:45] <rvalles> libfreeimage.so.3 => not found
[09:45] <rvalles> which package does have this library? (it's for google earth to run...)
[09:45] <anon32> Warbo, it's um... 26K
[09:46] <kitche>  Karark: the bug report is up to you if you think it's a real bug
[09:46] <anon32> that's Kbit not Kbyte
[09:46] <jmitchj> clearzen: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
[09:46] <jmitchj> clearzen: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[09:46] <darnell> i always get a currupt disk when i download edgy alternative cd
[09:46] <darnell> whats a good download site?
[09:46] <clearzen> jmitchj: At least it is working
[09:46] <Warbo> rvalles: You might want to check out the "apt-file" package, it looks through every package to see what files they contain "sudo apt-file search libfreeimage.so.3" for example (I would do it for you but my system is going too slow)
[09:47] <anon32> darnell, thepiratebay.org
[09:47] <clearzen> jmitchj: You will need to be by a wireless network for it to get an address
[09:47] <anon32> oh wait, downloading ubuntu?
[09:47] <darnell> ya
[09:47] <CoOlGhOsT> hey... just upgraded to edgy and i have a slight problem with usplash... logo is not centered on screen and that makes the output from verbose mode show out of screen area
[09:47] <CoOlGhOsT> any ideas?
[09:47] <compengi> XVampireX, so if i want to get mldonkey which package should i get?
[09:47] <anon32> actually, I think ubuntu's on thepiratebay too :-P
[09:47] <LjL> !edgy CoOlGhOsT
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy CoOlGhOsT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <XVampireX> compengi: in ubuntu mldonkey-gui
[09:48] <anon32> !edgy > CoOlGhOsT
[09:48] <AdamKili> Help please: error with gnome-splashscreen-manager: /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[09:48] <Warbo> XVampireX: Check out this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MLDonkey
[09:48] <jmitchj> clearzen: definitely...i've been trying for 3 weeks to get my card activated....now if I can only figure out 2 other problems...my modem and why I can;t get my video to come through my s-video
[09:48] <Mirro> hey, i wonder if anyone jnows how to use Samsund d600 with Ubuntu....
[09:48] <CoOlGhOsT> LjL: what are you trying to tell me?
[09:48] <Warbo> XVampireX: Oops, should have been for compengi really
[09:48] <LjL> CoOlGhOsT: that the support channel for edgy is #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <XVampireX> Hmm
[09:48] <clearzen> jmitchj: I'm glad I could help you then. It took me a while to figure out the wireless too
[09:48] <XVampireX> Warbo: Yeah, still, I checked Sancho right now, and it asks for a core
[09:48] <jmitchj> clearzen: thanks for the help!!
[09:48] <XVampireX> Warbo: What core is it? :P
[09:48] <CoOlGhOsT> aah ok... i thought it had moved here since the RC
[09:49] <CoOlGhOsT> sorry
[09:49] <clearzen> jmitchj: does the s-video give you an error?
[09:49] <at0mic_> is it safe / possible to run the i386 / 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit machine?
[09:49] <darnell> anon32: did you encounter any errors while upgrading to edgy?
[09:49] <pudland> hello, glxgears jerky after failed fglrx install, please review xorg.conf here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27702/
[09:49] <anon32> darnell, haven't done it yet
[09:49] <exhale> at0mic_, yes absolutely
[09:49] <exhale> im running it myself..
[09:49] <darnell> ok
[09:49] <at0mic_> this 64bit specific issues are just too much to handle first time thru
[09:49] <darnell> where is a page that tells me about known bugs
[09:49] <jmitchj> clearzen: I don't think i'm anywhere near the right drivers or something....i'm brand new at this...
[09:49] <mamzers555> hello, anyone here that can help me with cryptsetup
[09:49] <exhale> at0mic_, same here. thats why im running the 32bit version :)
[09:50] <Warbo> XVampireX: I use MLDonkey 2.7 I think, I will have to check that
[09:50] <XVampireX> ah
[09:50] <at0mic_> vmware dont even load / install on 64bit kernel
[09:50] <XVampireX> Warbo, is the core mldonkey-server ?
[09:50] <Qaldune> hi again
[09:50] <rvalles> Warbo: thank you, sounds reasonable
[09:50] <graveson> is t possible to use evolutio for rss feeds ? if so where can i find more info on this
[09:51] <Qaldune> do u guys know where can i get the packets in build-essentials??
[09:51] <jmitchj> clearzen: I have and ATI Express 200M card and I don;t even get an ATI control panel anywhere so that I can switch the display
[09:51] <Qaldune> i've got no internet conection in my ubuntu installation so i can't use apt-get
[09:51] <quilzo> anon32: thanks, I have all the files from the ntfs partition :)
[09:51] <clearzen> jmitchj: have you installed the ati drivers??
[09:51] <at0mic_> exhale, when you changed OS's did you do format first or downgrade some way easily and retain settings ?
[09:51] <Warbo> 2.7.7 apparently
[09:52] <anon32> is edgy likely to change from now to release date?
[09:52] <exhale> at0mic_, i reformated, im not shure if theres a way to apt to 32bit
[09:52] <jmitchj> clearzen: I'm not sure which ones to get....i've gotten so mixed up trying to search the net for the right ones
[09:52] <Salah> any good documents to read about learning linux printservers or network?
[09:52] <Warbo> XVampireX: Yes, but check the version. I think the repo one has Gnutella and Gnutella 2 broken, if it is not 2.7 or later then download it from mldonkey.sf.net
[09:52] <exhale> at0mic_, but i have a seperate partition for /home so most settings are kept
[09:52] <XVampireX> Warbo: Running edgy, it's 2.8 here
[09:53] <at0mic_> sneaky
[09:53] <clearzen> jmitchj: easy fix. Use either easy ubuntu or automatix. However I hear automatix can break things. But I haven't had a problem.
[09:53] <Warbo> XVampireX: OK, then get that then :)
[09:53] <fruitbat> hi guys, i'm wondering if it's possible to downgrade from 64bit ubuntu to 32 bit ubuntu, using a machine that i only have ssh access to, possibly using dist-upgrade?
[09:53] <Qaldune> hey can anyone tell where the ubuntu repository is??
[09:53] <XVampireX> Warbo, You're using sancho?
[09:53] <Qaldune> i need to download some packets and i can't use apt-get
[09:53] <Warbo> XVampireX: MLDonkey is notorious for startup scripts though, you might have to start it manually
[09:53] <Warbo> XVampireX: Yes, but not at this very moment
[09:54] <XVampireX> Warbo: Ah, wanna help me set it up?
[09:54] <Warbo> Qaldune: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:54] <jmitchj> clearzen: how do i run easy ubuntu?...i remember doing something with it when i first setup ubuntu about 6 weeks ago
[09:54] <at0mic_> its in ur apps menu jmitchj
[09:54] <Warbo> XVampireX: OK, it's not too hard
[09:54] <at0mic_> sys tools
[09:54] <jmitchj> at0mic: actually it's not there
[09:55] <clearzen> Download the package and there is a python script that you run from the terminal called easyubuntu.py or something similiar
[09:55] <iammisc> how would i back up my 40gb windows partition before resizing it with gparted(from the gparted livecd)?
[09:55] <at0mic_> u gotta install it first
[09:55] <at0mic_> its in the repository i think
[09:55] <mjr> fruitbat, it's possible though rather involved, using a spare partition and debootstrap
[09:55] <AdamKili> /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[09:55] <Railer> Hey I'm not getting sendmail and I want to install Postfix, should I install sendmail first??
[09:55] <jmitchj> at0mic_: whats the command to install?
[09:55] <fruitbat> mjr: do you have a link to a guide possibly?
[09:56] <Qaldune> omg
[09:56] <pudland> hello, glxgears jerky after failed fglrx install, please review my xorg.conf here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27702/ thanks
[09:56] <mjr> fruitbat, there isn't one to my knowledge
[09:56] <Qaldune> where can i download build-essentials packet without using apt-get?????????????
[09:56] <at0mic_> go to the synaptic and search easyubuntu . its in system - admin - synap...
[09:56] <Qaldune> that address you told me warbo is nuts
[09:56] <darnell> qaldune: freshmeat
[09:56] <at0mic_> then its just a matter of marking it for download / install
[09:57] <fruitbat> mjr: heh, fair enough, may as well wait till monday for someone to reinstall it from in front of the box
[09:57] <Praxi> after installing Ubuntu alternative AMD64 into a dual boot environment, Grub hangs at "Grub _"  can anyone point me to a good thread on how to fix it?  been googling and not finding an easy answer
[09:57] <kevin1> How do people take screenshots with beryl when the cube is rotating.. .I know super + 1 takes screen shot and ctl + alt left and right arrow does the cube... but how can people do both?
[09:57] <at0mic_> praxi, install 32bit version :)
[09:57] <mjr> fruitbat, if that's an option, it's highly recommended
[09:57] <jmitchj> clearzen: do you know what the command to install easy ubuntu is?...it's a directory in my home direcroy
[09:57] <Praxi> doh! serious?
[09:57] <AdamKili> Help please: error with gnome-splashscreen-manager: /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22:in `require': no such file to load -- gnome_splashscreen_manager (LoadError)        from /usr/bin/gnome-splashscreen-manager:22
[09:58] <fruitbat> mjr: aye, just slightly impatient :), cheers for your help though
[09:58] <graveson> is t possible to use evolution for rss feeds ? if so where can i find more info on this . If this is not possible what is a good rss client
[09:58] <Warbo> Qaldune: If you want to check out the packages then look at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:58] <Praxi> whole reason I was trying linux, wanted a 64 bit OS hehe
[09:58] <maccam94> what's up with the repositories? or is it just me? most of the repositories i can't connect to
[09:58] <at0mic_> its got all the issues like windows. im converting shortly
[09:58] <at0mic_> cant install vmware... hard installing nvidia drivers...
[09:58] <kitche> kevin1: they make a movie then rip that movie apart
[09:58] <talisein> kevin1: Use the scrot program with the delay feature. (It will wait 5 seconds before taking a screenshot, letting you set the cube spinning>
[09:58] <at0mic_> its a custom kernel so its got probs everywhere.
[09:58] <maccam94> i've used two livecds, and neither can update their repositories
[09:59] <Boon> hi, im trying to install Ubuntu on an HP pavillion but i cant get this pc to boot from cd-rom. i have been into bios and changed the boot order, saved it and restarted with the ubuntu disc in the drive and it still just loads windows. anyone have any suggestions to remedy this?
[09:59] <Qaldune> warbo: i just want to get the needed packets to compile ndiswrapper without using apt-get is it so hard?????? this is mad
[09:59] <maccam94> Boon: either it's a bad cd or the bios is still wrong... or it's a bad cd drive
[10:00] <kevin1> kitche, talisein  thank you... 2 ways of accomplishing it
[10:00] <Boon> the drive works fine, i use it daily
[10:00] <Praxi> aloit of BIOS's will have a key push for live boot menu boon, usually when you use those it will at least stop and not try to boot other things hehe
[10:00] <Boon> and this cd has been used on 2 other machines recently
[10:00] <tommy> hola
[10:00] <clearzen> jmitchj: follow the instructions here: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[10:01] <maccam94> er ok... when i do apt-get update from the cd it works fine, but on the installed copy it will NOT connect to the repositories >_<
[10:01] <Boon> live boot menu?
[10:01] <Praxi> at0mic_: are there any 64 bit linux flavors that work?
[10:01] <ubuntu> how do i boot into my hard disk using a live cd?
[10:01] <maccam94> Praxi: depends on how you define "work"
[10:01] <at0mic_> praxi, not worth it imo.
[10:01] <psiborg> what site is easybuntu at?
[10:01] <at0mic_> u can "make" shit work with alot of effort
[10:02] <at0mic_> but who wants effort?
[10:02] <kitche> ubuntu: root=/dev/<device>
[10:02] <maccam94> !google get easyubuntu
[10:02] <Praxi> Boon: ya for example, my boxes at home, I hit F12, brings up a boot menu where I pick boot device.  Boxes at work its F8, when I use that, it doesn't boot to other devices if the device I picked failed
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google get easyubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Warbo> Qaldune: Why not use apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic or Adept?
[10:02] <maccam94> or automatix
[10:02] <LjL> !automatix
[10:02] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[10:02] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[10:02] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:02] <Boon> ok so i should press something besides f1 to get to the boot menu?
[10:02] <Qaldune> warbo i have said many times i don't have internet connection in ubuntu yet because i need to compile ndiswrapper
[10:03] <mamzers555> i have made a encrypted home-partition with cryptsetup now i have installed dapper drake again. how can i mount my partition?
[10:03] <psiborg> easybuntu really needs some google spamming
[10:03] <Warbo> Qaldune: But I thought you had the CD??!
[10:03] <psiborg> thanks
[10:03] <Praxi> should I go for Ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10 as a noob?  not a production box or anything crazy
[10:03] <ubuntu> how do i boot into my hard disk using a live cd?
[10:03] <Qaldune> warbo i try the command you told me before
[10:03] <Qaldune> and i didn't work
[10:03] <iammisc> ubuntu: you can't
[10:03] <Qaldune> there's not build-essentials in the cd
[10:03] <psiborg> oh there was a u missing :)
[10:03] <mamzers555> i need some help to mount a encrypted partition
[10:03] <iammisc> ubuntu: at least i dont think so
[10:03] <iammisc> ubuntu: why would you want to do such a thing?
[10:04] <Warbo> Qaldune: That is because it is called "build-essential" (what did I say about copying exactly?) :)
[10:04] <Praxi> recovery mode maybe iammisc?
[10:04] <talisein> Praxi: eh, at this point I'd say try 6.10 if you have spare time to fiddle around.
[10:04] <Qaldune> build-essential didn't work too
[10:04] <Qaldune> i tried both
[10:04] <Warbo> oh?
[10:04] <mamzers555> can someone help me please?
[10:04] <Qaldune> essential and essentials
[10:04] <Warbo> AAAAAAA!!!
[10:04] <Praxi> kk thanks Tal
[10:05] <Qaldune> AAAAAAA??? what's wrong man?
[10:05] <Qaldune> i did what u told me
[10:05] <Warbo> I just remembered that Dapper and Edgy don't contain complete package sets because they have to fit the live session on as well!
[10:05] <talisein> Praxi: if you do though, look for help in #ubuntu+1, not here :)
[10:05] <Praxi> hehe k
[10:05] <Qaldune> i know that omfg
[10:05] <joevandyk> Not a Ubuntu-specific question, but... I've seen in the past "hugemem" kernels that are able to support more memory than 4GB.  Do those require a 64 bit machine?  If not, how do they work?
[10:05] <Warbo> Sorry Qaldune, I am not up to date with these new fangled distributions :)
[10:05] <talisein> mamzers555: were you using a howto guide for setting up an encrypted /home?
[10:05] <rcarr> I think the dapper CD has build essential
[10:06] <rcarr> I installed build-essential on my sisters computer off the dapper CD the other day to get ndiswrapper set up
[10:06] <rcarr> just 2-3 days ago
[10:06] <eternalswd> I have tv out working relatively well, but when I play back videos at full screen the width is a little too narrow.  How do I adjust to resolution to fix this?
[10:06] <kitche> joevandyk: they need 64bit means since x86 is limited to 4GB
[10:06] <Qaldune> rcarr dapper does not at least
[10:06] <Warbo> Qaldune: You can either go through dependency hell online, or get the alternative CD which contains all of the packages
[10:06] <Qaldune> where's that cd?
[10:06] <Qaldune> ubuntu page?
[10:06] <Flannel> Qaldune: ubuntu.com/download (same as the desktop CD)
[10:06] <Warbo> releases.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <Qaldune> ok
[10:06] <mamzers555> talisein, yes
[10:06] <Qaldune> gonna try it
[10:06] <Warbo> OK, either then
[10:06] <quilzo> as root, how do I set the files to belong to another user (weird way of saying it)
[10:07] <Warbo> Qaldune: Sorry dude
[10:07] <acu> how can you mirror all your ubuntu system in order to restore it later (suposedly everything installed has less than 4 Gb). In other words is anything simmilar to host in linux
[10:07] <compengi> Warbo, is this link working http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/mldonkey/mldonkey-2.8.1.static.i386-Linux_glibc-2.3.2.tar.bz2?
[10:07] <iammisc> quilzo chown group:owner
[10:07] <Praxi> Nother noob question, why does europe have DVD releases of Ubuntu?
[10:07] <ubuntu> how do i mount a hard disk partition from a live cd?
[10:07] <kitche> quilzo: sudo chown <user>:<group> file
[10:07] <rcarr> ...I'm certain build-essential is on the dapper CD...
[10:07] <mamzers555> talisein, i have the problem that the mapper is gone after newly installing dapper drake
[10:07] <Qaldune> warbo no prob thx anyway
[10:07] <kenshin_ds> I was looking for a tutorial in internet but i didnt find, im traying to install a USB joypad, anyone can help me?
[10:07] <mamzers555> talisein, can you help me out?
[10:07] <quilzo> ok thanks iammisc and kitche
[10:07] <Studiosus> hi, all! I did 'apt-get install xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-100dpi' and added FontPath to xorg.conf, but still can't see cronyx fonts in fontsel. How to fix?
[10:07] <iammisc> ubuntu:mount -t fstype /dev/device-name /mnt/mount-point
[10:07] <talisein> mamzers555: yeah
[10:07] <talisein> mamzers555: i can help
[10:07] <Warbo> ubuntu: "sudo mount <devicename> <mountpoint> -o uid=ubuntu" where you can find <devicename> from System>Admin>Discs
[10:07] <Frederick> folks wich is the package for libsdl.a?
[10:07] <jojoman02> my mp3 audio quality sucks in dapper, is there any way of fixing this?
[10:07] <ubuntu> the device-name is what i need to know
[10:08] <jmitchj> clearzen: after doing this command: wget http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add -, my terminal window seems to just hang
[10:08] <fen> hello?
[10:08] <talisein> mamzers555: so you made the encrypted partition, and then you did a reinstall?
[10:08] <kenshin_ds> I was looking for a tutorial in internet but i didnt find, im traying to install a USB joypad, anyone can help me?
[10:08] <mamzers555> talisein, yes
[10:08] <ubuntu> i want to mount the 3rd partition of my first hard disk
[10:08] <talisein> mamzers555: do you have the encryption key still?
[10:08] <ubuntu> how do i refer to it? /dev/hda0:3?
[10:08] <rcarr> ubuntu: If it's internal, that's /dev/hda3
[10:08] <mamzers555> talisein, yes
[10:08] <fen> Can I get help with an install error message
[10:08] <rcarr> ubuntu: If it's external, /dev/sda3
[10:09] <rcarr> ubuntu: In general
[10:09] <kitche> ubuntu it's /dev/hda3
[10:09] <joevandyk> kitche: doesn't the Intel PAE extensions have something to do with it?
[10:09] <quilzo> kitche: can I do this for a directory too?
[10:09] <Warbo> Frederick: You can install the package "apt-file" then run "sudo updatedb" and search for files in any package with "sudo apt-file search libsdl.a" (for example)
[10:09] <Praxi> all my internal drives show up as sd
[10:09] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: /dev/hda3
[10:09] <kitche> joevandyk: umm it's still x86
[10:09] <kitche> quilzo yes
[10:09] <Qaldune> i think ubuntu should be distributed in a dvd
[10:09] <talisein> mamzers555: and you didn't change the partition at all, right?
[10:09] <quilzo> ok thanks
[10:09] <mamzers555> talisein, right
[10:09] <Praxi> it is in Europe Qaldane
[10:09] <dmitriy> Hi, i went to networking, in sys>admin and changed the hostname, now my sudo doent work and tells me that its unable to lookup hostname gethostbyname(), i tried googling, nothing worked. Also what is the default hostname from fresh install dapper?
[10:09] <rcarr> Praxi: Mine do as well, but for most people it's hd*
[10:09] <Warbo> I've got to go, see you later :)
[10:09] <fni> guys, having a problem running the liveCD. once it finishes loading all i'm getting is a black screen?
[10:09] <Qaldune> they told you only one cd needed but that's not enough
[10:09] <jmitchj> clearzen: any iea why?
[10:09] <Qaldune> i'm in europe
[10:09] <Praxi> ya seems to be raid related for me rcarr
[10:09] <kitche> joevandyk: x86_64 is still x84 architechture but has a memory chip that does 64bit
[10:09] <Qaldune> i download cds
[10:10] <rcarr> qaldune: build-essential is on the dapper cd :\
[10:10] <Qaldune> coz they don't offer dvds to download
[10:10] <kenshin_ds> I was looking for a tutorial in internet but i didnt find, im traying to install a USB joypad, anyone can help me?
[10:10] <Qaldune> nope rcarr
[10:10] <Praxi> the site I goto does qal
[10:10] <Praxi> Ubuntu DVD Releases
[10:10] <eternalswd> Frederick, its in libsdl1.2-dev
[10:10] <quilzo> kitche: how?
[10:10] <Praxi> bottom of the page
[10:10] <talisein> mamzers555: okay, I'm pretty sure you just need to go through the same process for creating an encrypted partition, just make sure to use the exact same key & hashing algorythm.
[10:10] <Qaldune> kenshin what usb joypad?
[10:10] <clearzen> jmitchj: one sec
[10:10] <talisein> mamzers555: http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=HOWTO has a piece at the end on how to set it up so the partition is mounted at boot time
[10:10] <rcarr> Qaldune: in the dapper cd
[10:11] <finalbeta> !fglrx
[10:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:11] <Qaldune> rcarr what magic command do u use to install build-essential with dapper installation cds?
[10:11] <Qaldune> cd sorry
[10:11] <kitche> quilzo: it's the same way but if you want it to be though all of the folders you will do chown -R user:group directory
[10:11] <rcarr> Qaldune pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:11] <quilzo> kitche: thanks
[10:11] <Studiosus> hi, all! I did 'apt-get install xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-100dpi' and added FontPath to xorg.conf, but still can't see cronyx fonts in fontsel. How to fix?
[10:11] <mamzers555> talisein, if i go throught the whole process then i think my partition will formated
[10:11] <fen> Trying to boot live CD - getting hdb I/O block error - any help?
[10:11] <rcarr> qaldune: it's definetly there, is the cd in your sources.list? and have you run apt-get update since you put the CD in?
[10:11] <joevandyk> kitche: are you familiar with PAE?
[10:11] <dmitriy> Hi, i went to networking, in sys>admin and changed the hostname, now my sudo doent work and tells me that its unable to lookup hostname gethostbyname(), i tried googling, nothing worked. Also what is the default hostname from fresh install dapper?
[10:11] <mamzers555> talisein, maybe it is enough to create the mapper device again
[10:11] <talisein> mamzers555: skip the mkfs part, and go straight to mounting it after the device mapper is created
[10:12] <Praxi> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/dapper/release.1/  <--DVD releases in there
[10:12] <Qaldune> how can i put the cd in sources.list?
[10:12] <quilzo> woohoo
[10:12] <jmitchj> clearzen: it does seem to have installed it...i'll see what i can install
[10:12] <kitche> joevandyk: with PAE it just loads stuff into memory for the higher addresses in memory
[10:12] <mamzers555> talisein, please hold on, i'll take a look
[10:13] <rcarr> qaldune: apt-cdrom add
[10:13] <joevandyk> kitche: sort of like how disk space swap works with memory?
[10:13] <jmitchj> clearzen: i get this error...so maybe something didn;t work....W: GPG error: http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net main Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 580E2519969F3F57
[10:13] <rcarr> qaldune: You might have to specify the mount point with the -d flag
[10:13] <talisein> mamzers555: yeah, in fact the device mapper part shouldn't actually do anything to your harddrive, so its okay to mess that up. Just try mounting and if it doesn't work, you forgot something.
[10:13] <varsendaggr> hey i ahve a OS disk  and it's been rolling around with my other disk...   is there anyway to verify that all the information is good?
[10:13] <kitche> joevandyk: yea
[10:13] <rcarr> qaldune: then run sudo apt-get update
[10:13] <Qaldune> ok
[10:13] <finalbeta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI << does this guide make sense? it tells you to run the command to change xorg.conf for fglrx, then it tels you to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:13] <clearzen> jmitchj: try gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 969F3F57  then pgp --export --armor 969F3F57 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:13] <fni> to install ubuntu from HDD, which files do i need to copy over?
[10:13] <Qaldune> thx rcarr
[10:13] <rcarr> Qaldune: No problem
[10:14] <mamzers555> talisein, you mean i should create the mapper and then i should try to mount the partition
[10:14] <varsendaggr> anyone
[10:14] <talisein> mamzers555: yes
[10:14] <Studiosus> so, folks, no suggestions why fonts don't get visible in xfontsel?
[10:14] <clearzen> jmitchj: nevermind you already have it
[10:14] <kitche> varsendaggr: you cna do a cd check on it if the cd has the utility on it
[10:14] <jmitchj> clearzen: so why the errors?
[10:15] <mamzers555> talisein, ok i'll try, maybe you can hold on please. and by the way, thank you for the link and for your help
[10:15] <talisein> mamzers555: np :)
[10:15] <clearzen> jmitchj: what errors
[10:15] <klm-> does anyone here know a solution for audio going out of sync in videos (audio coming about one second later than the video)
[10:15] <talisein> klm-: are these flash videos?
[10:15] <jmitchj> clearzen: W: GPG error: http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net main Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 580E2519969F3F57
[10:15] <varsendaggr> kitche, cool
[10:15] <kitche> klm-: could be the codecs
[10:16] <clearzen>  one sec
[10:16] <at0mic_> hi i am very good at irc, i can script and even hack people on irc,but this real good hacker keeps hacking into me and changing my nick, his name is NickServ
[10:16] <talisein> klm-: flash 7 for linux was made w/ OSS, not ALSA. As a consequence the audio is out of sync. There is a new flash 9 beta with alsa support... but it doesn't work very well yet.
[10:16] <at0mic_> lol
[10:17] <rcarr> flash 9 works fine for me
[10:17] <kitche> at0mic_: umm ok but that's offtopic :)
[10:17] <rcarr> then again, I never had syncing problems with flash 7
[10:17] <mamzers555> talisein, eh sorry but have you ever heard about :Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver"
[10:17] <clearzen> jmitchj: try this gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 580E2519969F3F57
[10:17] <jmitchj> clearzen: its downloading packages now....and i'm on dialup...so this is gonna take awhile...i guess i'll just see how it goes...thanks for the help...this will somewhere along the way install the right ATI drivers huh?
[10:17] <talisein> mamzers555: did you install both from the ubuntu repositorys via apt?
[10:18] <mamzers555> yes
[10:18] <talisein> mamzers555: and are you on dapper or edgy?
[10:18] <mamzers555> talisein, edgy
[10:18] <klm-> talisein and kitche, thanks I'll try the new flash. The problem is with all videofiles
[10:18] <adub> heh good to see the community on here is larger than ever!!!
[10:18] <mamzers555> talisein, is this a problem
[10:18] <Praxi> anyone use Transgaming's cedega?
[10:18] <adub> when i came in here a year ago there was 400 - 500 people tops
[10:18] <adub> now there is double!
[10:18] <boink> ubuntu is getting popular
[10:18] <mamzers555> talisein, i only used the repos that comes with edgy
[10:18] <talisein> mamzers555: since Edgy is such a moving target, everything isn't necessarily built off one another correctly. I
[10:19] <kitche> Praxi: what are you having problems with cedega?
[10:19] <Praxi> no, just wanted feedback
[10:19] <talisein> mamzers555: apt-get update and see if there are any updates. If not, just wait a day or two and it should work
[10:19] <jmitchj> clearzen: it's just kinda hangin like before...does that request possibly take awhile?
[10:19] <clearzen> jmitchj: then gpg --export --armor  580E2519969F3F57 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:19] <kitche> Praxi: it's wine but with copyright stuff and better 3d support
[10:19] <Praxi> new to the whole linux thing, and the whole reason I don't normally use it, can't play my games on it.
[10:19] <clearzen> it will
[10:20] <Praxi> ya, just wanted to see if anyone had actually used it :)
[10:20] <mamzers555> talisein, you're right with that i think
[10:20] <mamzers555> talisein, maybe i have to wait till it gets final
[10:20] <clearzen> jmitchj: sorry about response time. I'm doing a few things at once
[10:20] <jmitchj> clearzen: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found ....then   OK
[10:20] <kitche> Praxi: I used it and that's all it seems liek to me :)
[10:20] <jmitchj> clearzen: no prob
[10:21] <talisein> Praxi: look at cedega's list of supported software and make sure your games are on it. If it is, it will probably work fine. sometimes when they update the game, it will break. but cedega is pretty good about updating it
[10:21] <_LF_> Can someone tell me how to get Ubuntu Server Edition? Is included on the regular Ubuntu CD, or is there a separate download?
[10:21] <Praxi> roger :)
[10:21] <jmitchj> clearzen: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found then on the next line it says OK
[10:22] <talisein> mamzers555: yeah. you might want to file a bug in launchpad if it doesn't work by Tuesday or so though. Just to be sure :)
[10:22] <boink> LF: no
[10:22] <boink> I mean, yes .. there is a seperate server cd
[10:22] <boink> that's just ubuntu with no gnome stuff
[10:23] <clearzen> jmitchj: that looks like the key was imported correctly
[10:23] <talisein> mamzers555: the other possibility is that the way mapper worked on dapper changes the way it would modify the hard drive in some way, which would be bad for you. But I'm pretty sure its just the packages being out of sync
[10:24] <_LF_> boink, where can I download it? I tried here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/ , which is the link provided on the Ubuntu Derivatives page, but I get a 404.
[10:24] <clearzen> jmitchj:  sudo aptitude update
[10:24] <boink> there are plenty of mirrors to download it from
[10:24] <kitche> _LF_: http://ubuntu.com/download
[10:24] <boink> google .. ubuntu server download
[10:24] <rcarr> Eww! Emacs!
[10:24] <mamzers555> talisein, i also think so, so i am looking for the source at the moment, maybe i can it compile myself and maybe then it works
[10:25] <_LF_> So just use one of the mirrors listed on the main download page, then?
[10:25] <boink> ideally, use the mirror closest to you
[10:25] <adub> how can i change my MAC address im pen testing want to spoof it
[10:25] <Railer> can anyone tell me the difference between "apt-get remove --purge" and "apt-get remove"?
[10:25] <boink> adub: that's not an ubuntu question :P
[10:26] <talisein> mamzers555: that could get ugly/annoying pretty fast ;)
[10:26] <BFT_ICE_BFT> hi
[10:26] <rcarr> Railer: purge removes configuration files
[10:26] <kitche> adub: it's part of ifconfig read the man that is all I m saying :)
[10:26] <_LF_> boink, Naturally. :) Thanks for your help.
[10:26] <mamzers555> talisein, what do you mean excactly?
[10:26] <jelly-home> boink: what about "how can I changed my mac address in ubuntu?" <g>
[10:26] <Railer> what one should I use to remove sendmail?
[10:26] <boink> heh :P
[10:26] <boink> Railer: apt-get remove sendmail
[10:26] <jmitchj> clearzen: that worked fine
[10:27] <BFT_ICE_BFT> i want to boot form cd but i can't find the selection in grub bootupscreen
[10:27] <Railer> thank you
[10:27] <kitche> Railer: --purge will remove the files as well
[10:27] <rcarr> Railer: Do you want to keep your configuration files? if not just purge them, but remove is safer
[10:27] <boink> man apt-get
[10:27] <fen> Can I get some help booting the live CD?
[10:27] <boink> !ask
[10:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:27] <jmitchj> clearzen: except: Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[10:27] <jmitchj>   Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[10:27] <jelly-home> Railer: first install some other MTA, then apt-get --purge remove sendmail-base
[10:27] <talisein> mamzers555: well, if you're looking for the libdevmapper source, then its going to require all sorts of header files to actually build. like linux-headers-whatever + some others. You could get those via apt-get packagename-dev, but you'd have to figure out what exact packages devmapper wants
[10:27] <clearzen> jmitchj: easy ubuntu will ask if you want to install ati drivers btw
[10:28] <jmitchj> clearzen: is that message ok ?
[10:28] <kitche> fen: did you burn the cd correctly?
[10:28] <Railer> well I might as well purge I'm not going to need send mail again, any dependany issues or anyhting like that if I remove the configuration files?
[10:28] <talisein> mamzers555: and then when a security update for the kernel hits, there will be a new linux-headers, which means that you might end up in breakage again
[10:28] <mcscruff> lo, is there a way to mount my resiserfs under windows like you can with ext2/3 ?
[10:28] <BFT_ICE_BFT> what must i do to boot a cd with grub?
[10:28] <fen> When booting live CD get to second splash screen - then "uncompressing linux" get "Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block xxxxx
[10:29] <clearzen> jmitchj: it should be ok. Try running update again and see if you get the same error
[10:29] <Megaqwerty> !patch
[10:29] <ubotu> patch: Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-2 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 188 kB
[10:29] <kitche> fen: and /dev/hdb is your cdrom drive I take it
[10:29] <jmitchj> cleazen: Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg, then next line...Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[10:29] <fen> yes it is
[10:29] <talisein> mcscruff: look on google, but I don't think so
[10:29] <LjL> mcscruff: not sure about actually mounting, but "raiserfs windows" in google shows a few possibility to at least read it
[10:29] <kitche> fen: probably a bad burn or the iso was corrupted when you downloaded it
[10:29] <zpiff> Hey, is the any programs that can do a badblock scan to a ntfs partition/disk ?
[10:29] <jojoman02> is there a point/click way of installing the latest 8.29.6 ati drivers in ubuntu?
[10:29] <mamzers555> talisein, your're right, it is not a good idea, but it is annoying to not have access to all your data
[10:30] <mamzers555> talisein, i hope the ubuntu-guys are fast
[10:30] <fen> I have 2 cdrom drives - tried both - same error
[10:30] <AsheD> does rsync check for *differences* in files?
[10:30] <kitche> fen: then it's a bad burn or your download is corrupted try redownloading the iso
[10:30] <fen> I know the media is OK cause it boots ok on my laptop
[10:30] <talisein> mamzers555: they usually are. but edgy IS beta. ;) for future reference btw, edgy technical problems should be brought to #ubuntu+1 :)
[10:30] <AsheD> like if I am syncing my PC to a website, and we have a file that has the same name, but slightly different content, will it overwrite the old part of the file with the new data, or just upload the whole file again?
[10:30] <protex2> Excuse me what is the default ubuntu kernels package name?
[10:31] <jmitchj> clearzen: W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.moshen.de dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FC0A1CC62F306651
[10:31] <LjL> !kernel > protex2
[10:31] <kitche> AsheD: whole file
[10:31] <kitche> fen: then I would say it has tod ow ith your cdrom drives
[10:31] <mamzers555> talisein, ok, thanks a lot for your great help, i wish you the best
[10:31] <talisein> mamzers555: you're welcome, good luck :)
[10:32] <Xal2> Hi
[10:32] <whazilla> high
[10:32] <fen> I take it hdb is the CDROM drives?
[10:32] <Xal2> Does the latest version of Ubuntu to download include the latest Linux kernel?
[10:32] <LjL> Xal2: no
[10:32] <whazilla> what's wrong here
[10:32] <whazilla>  http://rafb.net/paste/results/EbEY7L72.html
[10:32] <clearzen> jmitchj: run the same gpg commands. gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv FC0A1CC62F306651
[10:32] <kitche> fen: one of them probably
[10:32] <Xal2> I need the latest kernel because the JMicron IDE controller does not work with the current release afaik
[10:32] <SV452> does anybody have any idea how the modeline command work for xorg.conf file ???
[10:32] <erUSUL> !kernel
[10:32] <zpiff> Is there any programs for linux/ubuntu to scan for badblocks on a ntfs partition/disk?
[10:32] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:32] <ivx> hey i installed all the packages to play restriced formats, after though my gaim noises are distorted,
[10:32] <Xal2> Is it posible to add one to the CD?
[10:32] <clearzen> and then gpg --export --armor FC0A1CC62F306651 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:32] <jmitchj> clearzen: ok and then apt-get update again?
[10:32] <talisein> Xal2: the ubuntu kernel has a lot of patches from the current kernel. So you could try the livecd and see
[10:33] <Xal2> I can't boot the live CD
[10:33] <mamzers555> talisein, btw. do you know an equivalent to klipper, i need such a tool for gnome?
[10:33] <Xal2> It doesn't have the correct driver for my IDE controller.
[10:33] <clearzen> jmitchj: and then update
[10:33] <ivx> anyone know why
[10:33] <whazilla> bumps
[10:33] <talisein> zpiff: Badblocks should work as long as you keep it in the nondestructive mode
[10:33] <talisein> mamzers555: what does klipper do? ;)
[10:33] <zpiff> talisein: ok thanks
[10:33] <Xal2> Is there a way to compile a new kernel on my other computer to add to the live CD?
[10:33] <mamzers555> talisein, klipper is just a clipboard-manager
[10:34] <mypapit> offline!!!!!!!!
[10:34] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how to apply a .patch file from launchpad?
[10:34] <niles> ben?
[10:34] <LjL> xal2, there is a way to 1) recompile a kernel, and 2) create a custom live CD. if you can merge these two things, you're done. good luck though
[10:34] <jmitchj> clearzen; ok, that all worked :)
[10:34] <Xal2> Ok
[10:34] <clearzen> jmitchj: cool, good to hear
[10:35] <Xal2> thanks ^^
[10:35] <jmitchj> clearzen: now just run easyubuntu?
[10:35] <talisein> mamzers555: I can't think of anything off the top of my head, and apt-cache doesn't return anything GNOME specific. What do you use a clipboard for anyways?
[10:35] <protex2> the link I was given by the bot didnt tell me the package name... how do I apt-get the default kernel?
[10:35] <clearzen> jmitchj: yeah that should be it
[10:35] <jmitchj> clearzen: like i said...if there are a lot of downloads..it will take me awhile on dialp...
[10:36] <talisein> protex2: what CPU do you have?
[10:36] <jmitchj> clearzen: I may wait til i get to work on Monday and do them on DSL
[10:36] <ivx> protex2 i think you can just go into the package manger and it will show you all them
[10:36] <protex2> talisein, K7 Amd Athlon Xp
[10:36] <Megaqwerty> how do I use a .patch file?
[10:36] <talisein> !kernel>talisein
[10:36] <jmitchj> clearzen: thanks again for all your help!!!
[10:37] <clearzen> jmitchj: np
[10:37] <kitche> Megaqwerty: use patch
[10:37] <Eghie> hello, what is the "S" permission, when you look at the permissions of a file?
[10:37] <mamzers555> talisein, sometimes it is usefull if you have to copy and past several things
[10:37] <demio> hey
[10:37] <Megaqwerty> kitche: like in bash?
[10:37] <demio> how do i change the look of the menu bars in gone?
[10:37] <mamzers555> !kernel>mamzers555
[10:37] <demio> gnome
[10:37] <kitche> Megaqwerty: look up on how to patch files using patch since I don't think ubotu has a thing about it
[10:37] <demio> like the top and bottom bars
[10:37] <GStubbs43> Is Google Earth really slow for anyone on Edgy? It is extremely slow for me, yet was very fast on Dapper... But, it works a lot better, like the screen isn't cut off...
[10:37] <talisein> mamzers555: you might try xclipboard to see if its good enough ;)
[10:38] <LjL> Eghie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit
[10:38] <Eghie> Ljl thanks
[10:38] <LjL> Eghie: ah no sorry. that's *not* the one.
[10:39] <SV452> can anybody explain how this works ?? ModeLine       "1024x768" 60.8 1024 1056 1128 1272 768 768 770 796 - my screen is bigger than what it should be and my max for my 14" is 1024x768
[10:39] <joevandyk> What are the main downsides still about running a 64-bit kernel?
[10:39] <jmitchj> clearzen: once the ATI driver is installed...which it just did....should i get a control panel?
[10:39] <joevandyk> (and OS)
[10:39] <clearzen> jmitchj:I'm not sure with ATI. I have one with NVIDIA though
[10:40] <talisein> protex2: apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
[10:40] <jmitchj> clearzen: maybe i need to reboot?
[10:40] <LjL> Eghie: i'm messing up. "S" should be setuid-root for non-executable files, according to wikipedia.
[10:40] <Eghie> Ljl ow
[10:40] <clearzen> try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:40] <protex2> talisein, Yeah by default my ubuntu booted into an old custom kernel I had so I'm apting kernel-image-generic
[10:40] <iammisc> i am going to partition my disk as follows: 1 37.2 gb disk into 18.1 gigabyte windows, 1 gb transfer(vfat), 18.1 gb freespace for ubuntu.
[10:40] <iammisc> is this ok
[10:40] <Eghie> how do i set that one?
[10:40] <pike_> joevandyk: pros: bragging rights cons: simple things can turn out to be a pain speed difference: meh
[10:40] <talisein> that will work
[10:41] <clearzen> type startx at the command line if it dosen't come back up
[10:41] <talisein> iammisc: sounds fine. I'd make the transfer space a little bigger, just to be sure. You can always use it for ubuntu storage too
[10:42] <LjL> Eghie: chmod g+s filename
[10:42] <LjL> Eghie: (for setting it for the group)
[10:42] <iammisc> okay 17.6 windows and ubuntu and 2gb transfer?
[10:42] <Eghie> thanks
[10:42] <SV452> anybody?
[10:42] <bam_> Hi...I was wondering how I could find out what driver my wireless is using. Or maybe someone could just tell me its the Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG card.
[10:43] <sholden> I just built gaim on ubuntu edgy, and it says that it does not support MSN because I need SSL support.  Does anyone know what I need to do to correct this?
[10:43] <LjL> Eghie: note that SUID may be a dangerous thing to use, especially if it's SUID-root, because it means the file, if it's executable (though with uppercase S, it should not be), will be executed with root privileges
[10:44] <Eghie> it's dangerous, i understand that one
[10:44] <Yourname> If someone has the time, can they please check out my question at-> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281205
[10:44] <anon32> can I download ISOs for versions of Ubuntu other than 6.06?
[10:44] <nityann0> for some reason, my motherboard fans are running at full all the time when i am booted into ubuntu. Any help?
[10:45] <Eghie> Ljl: but what's the difference with uppercase S and lowercase?
[10:45] <nityann0> for some reason, my motherboard fans are running at full all the time when i am booted into ubuntu. Any help?
[10:46] <talisein> anon32: 6.10 isos are easily available. There are probably earlier ubuntu isos somewhere too
[10:46] <anon32> talisein, where?
[10:46] <nityann0> googe search
[10:46] <talisein> anon32: which do you want?
[10:46] <nityann0> *google
[10:46] <LjL> Eghie: according to Wikipedia, S means the file is not executable, while s means it's executable. i'm sorry however, but i haven't the slightest idea of how a non-executable SUID file could be useful
[10:46] <anon32> talisein, um, 6.10 and 5.10
[10:46] <compengi> LjL, can you check this one please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27705/
[10:47] <FurthuR> getting Error: Rage 128 timed out... exiting when attempting to run blender
[10:47] <FurthuR> just enabled 3d accell
[10:47] <Ademan> what's the package for the update manager
[10:47] <nityann0> for some reason, my motherboard fans are running at full all the time when i am booted into ubuntu. Any help?
[10:47] <Ademan> !ubdate
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Ademan> !update
[10:47] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:47] <Eghie> Ljl: I don't have any idea either
[10:47] <LjL> compengi, are you trying to recompile the entire Ubuntu by hand? you might want to try Gentoo if you like that sort of thing ;)
[10:47] <iammisc> is ther any real benefit from dual-booting windows and ubuntu?
[10:47] <nityann0> do i have to install mobo drivers??
[10:47] <Eghie> Ljl: but thanks for your help, now i understand
[10:47] <{_-IcE-_}> hey guys... im trying to setup dovecot for pop and imap, when trying to start it its giving me an error Unknown setting: userdb ... i found it in the config but have no clue what it should be :S any help pls?
[10:47] <Ademan> iammisc: if you need some windows only programs that wont work with WINE, otherwise linux is all you need :-)
[10:47] <pike_> iammisc: only for gaming as far as im concerned
[10:47] <FurthuR> getting Error: Rage 128 timed out... exiting when attempting to run blender any ideas???
[10:47] <compengi> LjL, i was trying to compile a new rhythmbox
[10:48] <nityann0> for some reason, my motherboard fans are running at full all the time when i am booted into ubuntu. Any help?
[10:48] <protex2> Just finished install Ubuntu, I'm in love.
[10:48] <Ademan> pike_: i have counter strike source, counter striek 1.6, half life 2 all running at full speed with WINE on my computer
[10:48] <LjL> compengi: i noticed that. try installing libgnomeui-dev and libglade-dev
[10:48] <nityann0> hello
[10:48] <LjL> compengi: keep in mind that there is an "apt-cache search <keyword>" command for finding packages, and that packages that are needed to compile stuff usually end with "-dev"
[10:49] <pike_> Ademan: well i dont have windows but about all i do is tremulous and native games im not too familiar with working with wine
[10:49] <deb_user> is sourceforge down right now? anybody know?
[10:49] <nityann0> for some reason, my motherboard fans are running at full all the time when i am booted into ubuntu. Any help?
[10:49] <FurthuR> sourceforge??
[10:49] <deb_user> I just get one mirror for downloads...
[10:49] <FurthuR> weird
[10:49] <talisein> anon32: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/hoary/
[10:49] <iammisc> if i decide to uninstall ubuntu and resize my ntfs partition back to normal size, can i do that?
[10:50] <FurthuR> getting Error: Rage 128 timed out... exiting when attempting to run blender any ideas ? ? ?
[10:50] <Ademan> pike_: you know what wine is though right?
[10:50] <compengi> LjL, got that ;)
[10:50] <talisein> anon32: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.10/
[10:50] <Ademan> ianmisc: yes, with gparted
[10:50] <nityann0> for some reason, my motherboard fans are running at full all the time when i am booted into ubuntu. Any help?
[10:50] <kitche> deb_mirror: it's been hapening a lot their mirrors seem to bbe dead alot of them but they don't control the mirrors
[10:50] <anon32> talisein, THANKS
[10:50] <pike_> Ademan: yeah
[10:50] <Ademan> works great
[10:50] <talisein> anon32: even better: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:50] <Ademan> i can't get battlefield 2 to work with it though
[10:50] <Snadder> Some way.. my crontab dosnt work.. the commands never gets executed.. even if they show up when I do crontab -l
[10:50] <anon32> talisein, YAY
[10:51] <talisein> anon32: see the old-releases link for the others
[10:51] <Snadder> * * * * *   /some/script.sh <-- thats what I put in
[10:51] <iammisc> when i use gparted to resize and create the appropiate partitions, will ubuntu automatically mark the appropiate partition bootable?
[10:51] <LjL> compengi: also, have you tried "sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox" like you did with gaim? that often does the trick, as well, without hunting for packages manually.
[10:51] <iammisc> or will i have to do that manually
[10:51] <FurthuR> gaaah this is killing meeee
[10:51] <anon32> talisein, which CD should I get if I want to "upgrade" with it?
[10:51] <FurthuR> my cursor is all garbeled and blender wont work
[10:51] <FurthuR> ive been working on this for days
[10:51] <talisein> anon32: you can't upgrade downwards. Or are you on warty?
[10:52] <FurthuR> *&&^% waste of time
[10:52] <anon32> talisein, you can't downgrade?
[10:52] <talisein> anon32: nope. apt wasn't built to do that
[10:52] <anon32> !!!
[10:52] <talisein> !downgrade
[10:52] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:52] <anon32> talisein, ok, and if I wanted to upgrade forwards, which CD would I want?
[10:52] <protex2> how can I see what's starting a boot and possibly remove some startup daemons?
[10:52] <iammisc> also. I have 7 mb of unused space on my hard disk. Is this used for something?
[10:53] <Snadder> Seems like there aint any entries in syslog
[10:53] <CromagDK> if its unused ?
[10:53] <Snadder> of when the crontab commands is executed
[10:53] <FurthuR> exit
[10:53] <Snadder> actually.. there aint any entry in syslog for several days
[10:53] <nityann0> do i need to install motherboard drivers??
[10:53] <kitche> protex2: there is inetd and the init scripts really
[10:53] <jmitchj> clearzen: still no control panel..so i'm not sure how to change displays from laptop screen to TV
[10:53] <talisein> anon32: install cd (but edgy/dapper only have dual install-livecds). What you would do is edit your /etc/sources.list and add a CD repository, and aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:54] <nityann0> do i need to install motherboard drivers??
[10:54] <bkudria> is upgrading to edgy from dapper at this point a good idea?  will anything break?  i need to upgrade because i need a newer kernel...
[10:54] <protex2> kitche: is there a program that will assist me in editing? similar to rc-update in gentoo?
[10:54] <nityann0> do i need to install motherboard drivers??
[10:54] <talisein> nityann0: probably not.
[10:54] <anon32> talisein, which install CD? live, desktop, or alt?
[10:54] <nityann0> for some reason my fans are always running at max
[10:54] <nityann0> it's like a jet
[10:54] <kitche> protex2: not that I know anyways gentoo makes it easy for people you sorta have to turn off the initscripts yourself
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> bkudria: Check in with #ubuntu+1 and see how things are going.
[10:55] <bkudria> tonyyarusso: thanks
[10:55] <protex2> kithce is there maybe a guide on this?
[10:55] <talisein> anon32: Desktop Install, if available. otherwise live cd over alt. It'd probably be easier to just change your sources.list to upgrade rather than use a cd though
[10:55] <talisein> !upgrading
[10:55] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:55] <kitche> protex2: not that I know of but you can look at the wiki for some help
[10:55] <protex2> kitche,  awesome thanks for the help
[10:55] <anon32> talisein, I have an extraordinarily slow system - that's I want all my packages in one place
[10:55] <talisein> anon32: only download ISOs if the target computer doesn't have an internet connection.
[10:56] <talisein> anon32: ok
[10:56] <Megaqwerty> !java
[10:56] <ubotu> java is To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:56] <nityann0> talisein, my fans are always running at max speed. how could i fix this?
[10:57] <talisein> nityann0: try installing the lm-sensors package
[10:57] <nityann0> where??
[10:57] <talisein> nityann0: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager. Search for lm-sensors
[10:57] <anon32> ....the iso isn't even compressed?
[10:57] <anon32> ARGH
[10:57] <talisein> anon32: its compressed
[10:58] <talisein> anon32: at least, all the packages are compressed
[10:58] <Seveas> !java =~ s/^/<reply>/
[10:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[10:58] <jojoman02> !ati
[10:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:58] <talisein> anon32: by upgrading via apt, you would ensure only downloading the packages you need
[10:58] <talisein> anon32: you can also specify for apt to Just Download and not install until you're ready
[10:59] <anon32> talisein, well, I just notice an abnormally high download speed due to modem compression, something which has only ever happened to me when downloading a long string of 0s
[11:00] <anon32> talisein, I'm not always on the same system, that's why I want it all in one file - makes it easier to wget -c
[11:00] <talisein> oic
[11:00] <talisein> anon32: be sure to get 6.06.1 and not 6.06.
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> does ubuntu come with an ftp server builtin?
[11:00] <Scorpmoon> ubuntu server
[11:01] <anon32> talisein, I'm fetching 6.10, lol
[11:01] <talisein> anon32: oh god
[11:01] <bam_> I was wondering. What channel does normally wireless card run on? is it ch 6? and do access points run on ch 11?
[11:01] <anon32> ?
[11:01] <digisus> Hi! I have got a question about Dapper freezing every once in while. It happens on my laptop and I saw people discussing it on ubuntuforums.org. Will the problem be solved for Edgy?
[11:01] <kitche> bam_: depends on how the AP is set up
[11:01] <Xenguy> digisus: when does it freeze?
[11:02] <talisein> anon32: 6.10 is beta. all those packages will be out of date in 2 weeks. Who knows if the CD will even work. And you'd end up having to download hundreds of megabytes of stuff again
[11:02] <{_-IcE-_}> can anyone please please send me dovecot.conf as i deleted it by mistake :| ?
[11:02] <digisus> talisein:randomly :-/ sometimes when starting an app, sometimes when closing...
[11:02] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: dpkg-reconfigure dovecot
[11:02] <Xenguy> {_-IcE-_}: can you google one?
[11:02] <anon32> talisein, um, it's RC - that means it's the same package that's probably gonna be labeled as final
[11:02] <{_-IcE-_}> root@icebox:~# dpkf-reconfigure dovecot
[11:02] <{_-IcE-_}> -bash: dpkf-reconfigure: command not found
[11:03] <{_-IcE-_}> oops
[11:03] <{_-IcE-_}> typo
[11:03] <iammisc> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:03] <nityann0> do i need to restart after installing lm-sensors and the libsensors3 packages??
[11:03] <{_-IcE-_}> Xenguy: couldnt find on google
[11:03] <anon32> unless there's some strange use of Release Candidate involved that I'm not aware of?
[11:03] <digisus> Xenguy (sorry...): randomly :-/ sometimes when starting an app, sometimes when closing...
[11:03] <Xenguy> {_-IcE-_}: what talisein said :-)
[11:03] <rixth> How can I turn the 'feature' where windows snap o the edge of other windows off?
[11:03] <nityann0> do i need to restart after installing lm-sensors and the libsensors3 packages??
[11:03] <Xenguy> digisus: that's not good :-/
[11:03] <talisein> anon32: well, it is an RC, i give you that.
[11:04] <{_-IcE-_}> uhm, it says dovecot is not installed...
[11:04] <{_-IcE-_}> if i try reconfigure dovecot-imapd
[11:04] <Yourname> sudo apt-get keeps installing 0.6.2 of network-manager.. but there's a 0.6.4 out, how do I update it?!
[11:04] <ispirto> hi, how can i find epox nforce4 ultra ethernet driver for ubuntu
[11:04] <digisus> Xenguy: yep. Sorry to say that I cannot reproduce it - But it happened just an houre ago. Usually 1-2x a week...
[11:04] <{_-IcE-_}> then it says grep .... dovecot.conf file not found
[11:04] <anon32> oh yea, and the final date is in 5 days, not 14 :-P
[11:04] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: lol. try aptitude reinstall dovecot-imapd
[11:04] <Xenguy> digisus: time to buy new hardware ;-)
[11:04] <kitche> Yourname: apt-get update since you have to update the repo list
[11:04] <anon32> besides, I find it unlikely that all of it will have changed
[11:04] <bkudria> is 2.6.17 or higher available in dapper?
[11:05] <LjL> bkudria: no. it will be in edgy.
[11:05] <talisein> anon32: it doesn't all change, but if openoffice does, there's like 100 Mb
[11:05] <Yourname> kitche: I've done that already.
[11:05] <Yourname> And it still installed 0.6.2
[11:05] <bkudria> LjL: ok, thanks
[11:05] <{_-IcE-_}> after some lines........
[11:05] <{_-IcE-_}> Setting up dovecot-imapd (1.0.beta3-3ubuntu5.3) ...
[11:05] <{_-IcE-_}> grep: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf: No such file or directory
[11:05] <{_-IcE-_}> :(
[11:05] <anon32> bkudria, no
[11:05] <Yourname> I have a downloaded 0.6.4 on desktop too.
[11:05] <kitche> !network-manager
[11:05] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[11:05] <anon32> talisein, I never upgrade OO.o anyway
[11:05] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: with aptitude reinstall?
[11:05] <digisus> Xenguy: Why do you think so? The laptop (ThinkPad X31) is perhaps 3yo. And it never froze with Breezy while it has been freezing nearly a dozen times with Dapper.
[11:05] <anon32> I use MS Office instead
[11:05] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: yep
[11:06] <Yourname> Yeah kitche, I followed that.
[11:06] <iammisc> how long will an install take. I only have about 1.5 hours. I have a 768mb of ram, 2ghz system.
[11:06] <kitche> Yourname if you have the 0.6.4 deb on your desktop just install it that way with dpkg?
[11:06] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: oO. Try dpkg-reconfigure dovecot-common or aptitude reinstall -common if that doens't work
[11:06] <Yourname> But it's not doing the update. :(
[11:06] <Yourname> From shell>
[11:06] <Yourname> ?
[11:06] <kitche> Yourname: yea
[11:06] <Yourname> Ok.
[11:06] <Yourname> Shall I uninstall it first?
[11:06] <Yourname> I don't want two versions, you know.
[11:07] <ispirto> how can i find epox nforce4 ultra ethernet driver for ubuntu
[11:07] <bam_> how can I find out what driver my laptop is using for my wireless card?
[11:07] <Yourname> Unless dpkg installs the new one and removes the old one.
[11:07] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: both failed... they try grep dovecot.conf :(
[11:07] <TGPO> so what is the advantage of SMP with dual core over non SMP?
[11:07] <nityann0> do i need to restart after installing lm-sensors and the libsensors3 packages??
[11:07] <Xenguy> digisus: I would suspect that changing hardware might increase system stability - but I believe you, my desktop system keyboard locks up once/day at precisely 1:06am every morning.  Breezy was fine, but the problem started with my upgrade to Dapper :-(
[11:07] <kitche> Yourname just do a man dpkg to make sure you use the right syntax but it should remove the old one and install the new one if you do it right
[11:07] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: blah. "touch /etc/dovecot.conf" and try. If that doens't work, I'll install it and give it to you ;)
[11:08] <Yourname> Gotcha kitche, thanks. Lemme try and get back to ya.
[11:08] <jenda> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X300 Card. When I set xorg.conf to radeon or fgrlx, X starts, but in both cases, glxinfo returns Direct Rendering = No. What can I do?
[11:08] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: are you working as root?
[11:08] <nityann0> do i need to restart after installing lm-sensors and the libsensors3 packages??
[11:08] <barktpolar> Question, Is there a way to Install and Run Ubuntu while running Windows
[11:08] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: yea ofcourse
[11:08] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: ok.
[11:08] <Xenguy> digisus: maybe our problems are related somehow?  Do you have any good URLs on the problem?
[11:08] <{_-IcE-_}> reinstall worked after the touch :O
[11:08] <{_-IcE-_}> lets see :D
[11:08] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: hooray
[11:08] <Yourname> Hey, kitche.. it's acutually a .tgz file :S
[11:08] <digisus> Xenguy: Hm. And what about the people discussing the freezing problem on ubuntuforums? I feel I am not alone.
[11:08] <anon32> heh, download speed back at normal - guess I ran into the packages
[11:08] <TGPO> barktpolar: yes under emulation
[11:08] <kitche> Yourname: ok you can use alien then
[11:08] <nityann0> do i need to restart after installing lm-sensors and the libsensors3 packages??
[11:08] <mcphail> barktpolar: yes, with vmware or qemu
[11:08] <Yourname> man alien?
[11:09] <kitche> Yourname: to make it a deb since most likely it's a slackware package
[11:09] <nityann0> do i need to restart after installing lm-sensors and the libsensors3 packages??
[11:09] <digisus> Xenguy: No, sorry. I read the forums and they said it might be the gfx driver. But who knows...
[11:09] <talisein> nityann0: if the fan speeds haven't slowed down, yes please try
[11:09] <grndslm> barktpolar, you mean like a live cd?
[11:09] <anon32> barktpolar, yes... but it's more complicated than just installing Ubuntu and ditching Windows
[11:09] <Megaqwerty> how do I get Java to work in Firefox?
[11:09] <barktpolar> I already tried VPC with it and it runs as slow as heck
[11:09] <Xenguy> digisus: if you don't have a URL handy, then I'll just track it down :-)
[11:09] <Yourname> kitche: Ah, I got it off gnome.org/projects.
[11:09] <Skaag> is there a bluetooth channel? :-)
[11:09] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: hmm, still didnt get conf back though... trying both reinstall -common and -imapd and we'll see
[11:09] <anon32> mcphail, or even MS VPC 2007
[11:09] <barktpolar> Yeah, but it install it somewhere and run it while you're running Windows
[11:09] <jmccc> I fubared a breezy->edgy upgrade that was using software RAID1, can someone help me unfubar it?
[11:09] <mcphail> anon32: i'm not aware of that one :)
[11:10] <barktpolar> I thought there was a Ubuntu Installer that can do that
[11:10] <talisein> jmccc: how is it foobared?
[11:10] <anon32> I noticed that when I did dist-upgrade to edgy, one of the packages to be removed was alien - how am I gonna convert rpms in the beta then?
[11:10] <rixth> ispirto, it should be supported by default
[11:10] <anon32> mcphail, Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
[11:10] <kitche> anon32: reinstall alien
[11:10] <digisus> Xenguy: try searchin sth. like "Dapper freezing" in the forums...
[11:10] <TGPO> barktpolar: you can install it, but only run one OS at a time, thats dual boot
[11:10] <jmccc> talisein: the md doesn't autostart so init crashes and it falls into a busybox shell
[11:10] <grndslm> barktpolar, the easiest way for running 2 different OSes simultaneously is with vmware virtualization...
[11:10] <anon32> barktpolar, then you were very wrong
[11:10] <talisein> anon32: it might have removed alien, installed something else, then reinstalled a newer alien
[11:10] <Yourname> kitche: Ok, installing alien using apt-get. So, shall I use alien (man alien?) to convert .tgz to .deb and then use dpkg?
[11:10] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: didnt get anywere ... still same prob
[11:10] <anon32> kitche, oh, lol
[11:10] <ispirto> rixth: it did not installed the driver
[11:10] <barktpolar> There is no way to run it while running Windows without Emulation Software>
[11:11] <mememe> hey
[11:11] <ispirto> i could not connect to internet
[11:11] <kitche> Yourname: you do alien <package> that you want to convert to a deb
[11:11] <mememe> need some help
[11:11] <ispirto> or get ip
[11:11] <mememe> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:11] <{_-IcE-_}> reinstalls after the touch but config isnt being created
[11:11] <mememe> what should i do?
[11:11] <anon32> Yourname, NO
[11:11] <mcphail> barktpolar: no
[11:11] <jmccc> talisen: i think the init ramdisk is wrong
[11:11] <anon32> you use alien on rpms
[11:11] <LjL> !compile > mememe
[11:11] <Yourname> Gotcha kitche, thanks.
[11:11] <mememe> what?
[11:11] <talisein> jmccc: gah.
[11:11] <TGPO> barktpolar: only if you want both OS operating at the same time
[11:11] <Yourname> anon32: What about a .tgz? kitche just said I could :S
[11:11] <mcphail> barktpolar: (well, emulation or virtualisation...)
[11:11] <mememe> i cant compile anything
[11:11] <talisein> jmccc: your / was the Raid 1?
[11:11] <LjL> mememe: you have a private message. what are you trying to compile anyway?
[11:11] <mememe> this is the error
[11:11] <barktpolar> DOes coLinux help
[11:11] <grndslm> barktpolar, vmware needs two computers.....you use one as the vmware server, an the other runs vmware player on a plain OS install (in your case ubuntu would have it's own window inside XP)
[11:11] <LjL> mememe: yeah, and the message you got explains how to solve that error
[11:11] <jmccc> talisein: yep
[11:11] <mememe> tuner
[11:12] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: weird..
[11:12] <LjL> mememe: sorry?
[11:12] <mememe> guitar tuner you kniw
[11:12] <mememe> know*
[11:12] <TGPO> barktpolar: and regardless of emulator, your going to take a performance hit running it inside windows
[11:12] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: hold on
[11:12] <Xenguy> digisus: ok, will do, thanks
[11:12] <nwbreneman> Hi, I was going about my business as usual, when suddenly all of my XFCE panels disappeared. I restarted but they still aren't there. Can anyone please help me?
[11:12] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: ok, tnx
[11:12] <LjL> !lingot
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lingot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <grndslm> there wouldn't be that big of a performance hit if you COULD run vmware...but that's your call
[11:12] <mememe> LjL understand now?
[11:12] <talisein> jmccc: do you have a livecd?
[11:12] <LjL> !gtkguitune
[11:12] <barktpolar> K, WHat's the diff between VMWare Player and VMWare Server
[11:12] <protex2> guys I cant find a Mplayer package?
[11:12] <ubotu> gtkguitune: Guitar and other instruments tuner. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-5build1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 192 kB
[11:12] <LjL> mememe: why not use that thing above, instead?
[11:12] <digisus> Xenguy: nothing. Good luck. cu...
[11:12] <mememe> LjL,I cant use lingot
[11:12] <mememe> I tried it
[11:12] <anon32> Yourname, err... for tgz isn't a package format, the tool you need depends on the compressed files
[11:13] <TGPO> barktpolar: vmware player is free, and is made to do what your talking about
[11:13] <LjL> mememe, so you're in Edgy?
[11:13] <kitche> !mplayer > protex2
[11:13] <mememe> edgy?
[11:13] <barktpolar> How big is it
[11:13] <jmccc> talisein: I do...but it's Knoppix 3.9.  I booted from it and I can manually start raid
[11:13] <Yourname> anon32: I just got alien to make a .deb file from the .tgz
[11:13] <Yourname> :D
[11:13] <kitche> anon32: umm .tgz is a package format :)
[11:13] <jmccc> talisein: i have to modprobe the modules in first
[11:13] <Yourname> Is there a frontend to dpkg?
[11:13] <mememe> edgy?
[11:13] <mememe> what is that?
[11:13] <TGPO> barktpolar: www.vmware.com
[11:13] <LjL> !edgy > mememe
[11:13] <anon32> Yourname, ok, fine, be that way
[11:13] <talisein> jmccc: okay.. are you on dapper or edgy?
[11:13] <jmccc> talisein: but i can mount the /dev/md0 stuff
[11:13] <mememe> nope
[11:13] <talisein> jmccc: edgy right? gah
[11:13] <Yourname> anon32: hehe :P
[11:13] <anon32> kitche, no it isn't a tgz is just a gzipped tar file
[11:13] <LjL> mememe: anyway, forget about this and just type "sudo apt-get install gtkguitune". you will have a guitar tuner installed.
[11:13] <kitche> anon32: .tgz is slackware's package format which is just .tar.gz
[11:13] <nwbreneman> Could somebody please tell me how to make my XFCE panels reappear? They disappeared suddenly, and restarting didn't help.
[11:13] <talisein> jmccc: oh, okay, yeah, mount the md0
[11:14] <mememe> ok
[11:14] <jmccc> talisein: it was a breezy server that I dist-upgraded to edgy
[11:14] <mcphail> barktpolar: you can find ubuntu images on the vmware site which you can run on the player. I don't know how good they are, though
[11:14] <Yourname> Is there a frontend to dpkg?
[11:14] <kitche> anon32: umm is that why slackware uses it for their package format
[11:14] <LjL> mememe: you need to have the Universe component enabled, though.
[11:14] <anon32> kitche, huh? tgz=tar.gz= a bunch of files glued together and then gziped
[11:14] <mememe> i have.
[11:14] <barktpolar> Yeah, but teh prob is that I can't store them on my FLash Drive
[11:14] <kitche> anon32: yes but slackware uses .tgz as a package format
[11:14] <jmccc> talisein: i tried to mount everything and chroot, which sort of worked
[11:14] <barktpolar> I got VPC and getting VMWare Player from my school
[11:15] <nityann0> talisein: i installed the packages (Im-sensors and libsensors3), but the fan speed is the same. When i booted up it said: "Checking sensors limit            [FAIL] ".
[11:15] <TGPO> what is it with edgy and no wine candidate in the repo?
[11:15] <mememe> LjL, thanks for helping by the way
[11:15] <mememe> :)
[11:15] <anon32> kitche, but they must use a very specific kind of tgz
[11:15] <talisein> jmccc: the tricky thing is Edgy is using upstart, so this is going to take research to figure out how to get it to load the raid stuff first
[11:15] <mcphail> barktpolar: you can run ubuntu from qemu on a flash drive, but it will be fairly slow
[11:15] <kitche> anon32: no they don't their packages are just .tar.gz same as archlinux which is tar.gz as well
[11:15] <jmccc> talisein: well, i think we're in luck on that
[11:15] <anon32> TGPO, that's the way edgy works
[11:15] <anon32> TGPO, add the WINE repository
[11:15] <nityann0> talisein: i installed the packages (Im-sensors and libsensors3), but the fan speed is the same. When i booted up it said: "Checking sensors limit            [FAIL] ".
[11:15] <LjL> mememe, in Edgy, there is lingot packaged as well. so when Edgy is out, if you decide to upgrade, you'll be able to type "sudo apt-get install lingot" and have that, if you prefer it over gtkguitune
[11:15] <kitche> anon32: read up on pkgtools it will say just uses .tar.gz for package formats
[11:16] <jmccc> talisein: as there was an message to root that got mailed to me about running dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
[11:16] <TGPO> anon32: thanks.
[11:16] <mememe> ok
[11:16] <talisein> jmccc: try that.
[11:16] <talisein> jmccc: ;)
[11:16] <nityann0> talisein: i installed the packages (Im-sensors and libsensors3), but the fan speed is the same. When i booted up it said: "Checking sensors limit            [FAIL] ".
[11:16] <anon32> kitche, no, what I mean is that they must tgz them in a certain way - i.e. script in a certain place, bin in another, etc
[11:16] <jmccc> talisein: so I did the chroot to the mounted /dev/md0 stuff from the knoppix livecd
[11:16] <talisein> nityann0: in console run sudo sensors-detect
[11:16] <nityann0> k
[11:16] <jmccc> talisein: and ran dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
[11:16] <talisein> jmccc: oh, you cant mount the md0 from the failed ubuntu boot?
[11:16] <Yourname> kitche, anon32: So, using this new Network manager, I would be able to connect to my WPA2 wifi networks, right?
[11:16] <LjL> mememe: remember that compiling programs is often not necessary. ubuntu has about 20000 packages available. if you really do need to compile software, start by reading the first link Ubotu gave you -- but it's not always easy anyway.
[11:17] <talisein> jmccc: did you chroot first?
[11:17] <kitche> anon32: yea all they have is a install directory but you don't even need it to make their package
[11:17] <mememe> LjL its not working
[11:17] <jmccc> talisein: oh no, from the failed ubuntu boot there are no md modules loaded
[11:17] <mememe> i mean
[11:17] <mememe> its work
[11:17] <LjL> mememe: "not working" like in giving you an error?
[11:17] <mememe> but its not get the sound
[11:17] <nityann0> talisein: when i ran it, it said: "No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them."
[11:17] <mememe> no errors
[11:17] <jmccc> talisein: from the knoppix boot I can insmod the md stuff, mount everything, then chroot
[11:17] <kitche> anon32: I mean they have bin and the program stuff and another directory called install
[11:17] <mememe> just didnt get the sound from my mic
[11:17] <LjL> mememe: do you have the mixer settings correct for capturing from microphone?
[11:17] <jmccc> talisein: but as I was saying
[11:17] <anon32> lol, I have so much ETA on this ISO that it's showing as "can not determine"
[11:17] <mememe> what do you mean?
[11:18] <nityann0> talisein: when i ran it, it said: "No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them."
[11:18] <mememe> the mic is in 48 volume
[11:18] <jmccc> talisein: once I chrooted to the md0 mounted drives, and ran dpkg-reconfigure mdadm, it didn't work
[11:18] <anon32> kitche, ok
[11:18] <Yourname> lol what ISO is it?
[11:18] <Yourname> Are you on dialup?
[11:18] <LjL> mememe: i mean that you soundcard isn't going to pick you the microphone unless you tell it to. go to your mixer, and click on the red switch for the microphone -- or whatever color it is in gnome
[11:18] <jmccc> talisein: it tried to create a new initramfs file in /boot but it said the kernel needs to be at least 2.6.11 to do that
[11:18] <b03nto> guys, i have 3.06 ghz processor, but in cpuinfo it say only 1600 mhz, whats wrong ?
[11:18] <grndslm> barktpolar, if you want to run ubuntu on your school's computer....look into customizing a livecd or flash drive, but don't expect any of them to run ubuntu under windows....microsoft would never let that happen
[11:18] <nityann0> talisein: when i entered "sudo sensors- detect", it said: "No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them."
[11:18] <LjL> mememe: volume is not enough. it has to be selected for recording.
[11:18] <jmccc> talisein: i mean 2.6.12
[11:18] <anon32> kitche, the way it probably works is that their package manager goes into the install dir and executes the install script
[11:18] <mememe> LjL and how i do that?
[11:18] <anon32> Yourname, yep, the edgy iso
[11:19] <kitche> anon32: yeah it does if you call it a package manager :)
[11:19] <jmccc> talisein: so I need to know if the dapper livecd has a high enough kernel to do that, as the knoppix cd is kinda old
[11:19] <ispirto> how can i install this driver forcedeth.c
[11:19] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: uploading to pastebin
[11:19] <kitche> Yourname: umm WPA2 working dpeneds on if your wpa_supplicant is set up right
[11:19] <anon32> !clockspeed
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clockspeed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <nityann0> talisein: when i entered "sudo sensors- detect", it said: "No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them."
[11:19] <Yourname> kitche: apt-get says I have wpasupplicant.
[11:19] <LjL> mememe, i'm not on Gnome, so i can't tell you specifically. look at your gnome mixer. or ask someone else if they know the specific procedure for switching microphone capture on in the gnome mixer.
[11:19] <mememe> the mic is enable
[11:19] <talisein> jmccc: try the edgy livecd, and try to chroot from it
[11:20] <jmccc> talisein: oh, i didn't know there was an edgy live cd
[11:20] <LjL> mememe: "enabled" doesn't necessarily means it'll be recorded.
[11:20] <mememe> so what can i do
[11:20] <jmccc> talisein: that should do the trick, too bad I just got done downloading the dapper iso :-(
[11:20] <mememe> with alsamixer for example
[11:20] <nwbreneman> my panels in xfce are gone, and I don't know where they went. could somebody please tell me how to get them back without actually being able to graphically open anything?
[11:20] <nityann0> talisein: when i entered "sudo sensors- detect", it said: "No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them."
[11:20] <talisein> jmccc: ;)
[11:20] <anon32> question: I'm not sure I can write in dao mode successfully, can I upgrade from a mounted iso?
[11:20] <LjL> mememe: there are three settings for the microphone (like for everything else):  1) the volume slider  2) the switch that decides whether the sound is output to the speakers or not  3) the switch that decides whether the sound is captured.   you need number 3.
[11:20] <b03nto> guys, i have 3.06 ghz processor, but in cpuinfo it say only 1600 mhz, whats wrong ?
[11:20] <Yourname> kitche: Also, I just installed network managers.. now I don't see it anywhere?
[11:21] <talisein> nityann0: hmmm. I don't think I can help then =(
[11:21] <jmccc> talisein: is there a special place to find the edgy livecd?
[11:21] <nityann0> ok
[11:21] <mememe> i dont know how to do that :\
[11:21] <nityann0> who could?
[11:21] <talisein> jmccc: releases.ubuntu.com should have a link I think
[11:21] <anon32> nwbreneman, do you have a terminal?
[11:21] <jmccc> talisein: thanks for all your help :-)
[11:21] <talisein> nityann0: try posting on the forums at http://ubuntuforums.com
[11:21] <nwbreneman> anon32: I don't see how I could open one, no
[11:21] <clarkphp> Hello. Building Apache 2.2.3 from source. ./configure includes --enable-ssl.  Synaptic says 0.9.8a openssl is installed, but the apache configure can't find the SSL/TLS toolkit.  find / -name ssl.h -print turns up nothing, along with searching for sslc.h, etc.  Should I download the source for 0.9.8d from openssl.org and build that first. If so, should I uninstall 0.9.8a using Synaptic first?
[11:21] <LjL> mememe, reading from the manpage, in alsamixer you should probably select the microphone (using the left and right arrows), and then press Space to enable capture
[11:21] <talisein> nityann0: oops, ubuntuforums.org
[11:22] <mike1o> how can ssh into my friend PC from a my PC; neither of us are have public IP's and neither of us are connected directly to the router
[11:22] <nwbreneman> anon32: but I used crtlaltf1 to open irssi
[11:22] <mememe> oh
[11:22] <mememe> ok
[11:22] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: pastebin is slow today =(
[11:22] <nwbreneman> ctrl*
[11:22] <anon32> nwbreneman, ok, switch to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and work from there
[11:22] <mememe> nothing happen
[11:22] <nwbreneman> anon32: okay
[11:22] <Yourname> anon32: Also, I just installed network managers.. now I don't see it anywhere?
[11:23] <anon32> nwbreneman, try using adduser
[11:23] <anon32> Yourname, if you aliened it, it probably won't auto-configure, search for the actual file and execute it
[11:23] <mememe> LjL i tried to press space,nothing happen
[11:23] <nwbreneman> anon32: okay, but may I ask what my goal is?
[11:23] <nwbreneman> anon32: or what it will accomplish, I suppose
[11:23] <Yourname> anon32: Ok, and where do you think it is? :S
[11:23] <K1765> ok, whats wrong with this
[11:24] <anon32> nwbreneman, to just start over :-\
[11:24] <b03nto> i have 3.06 ghz processor, but in cpuinfo it say only 1600 mhz, is it normal ?
[11:24] <nwbreneman> anon32: okay, thank you :)
[11:24] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: screwit. look at talisein.livejournal.com ;)
[11:24] <K1765> I checked the .iso with checksum, it says its not corrupt, I burn it at 4x, go to the loading screen, and it says Error Readong boot cd
[11:24] <mememe> LjL ?
[11:24] <anon32> Yourname, /usr/bin
[11:24] <Yourname> one sec kthx
[11:24] <LjL> mememe, please ask somebody else about this. i normally use KMix under KDE, i don't have the slightest idea how you're supposed to enable microphone capture in Gnome or alsamixer.
[11:24] <anon32> K1765, well, duh, it failed the checksum
[11:25] <mememe> LjL
[11:25] <K1765> no, duh, it passed it....
[11:25] <mememe> ok thanks anyway!
[11:25] <mememe> :)
[11:25] <K1765> no errors were in it
[11:25] <seth__> hi, my problem: with "sudo pppoeconf" I only get "This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages."
[11:25] <Em3rald> Hey all
[11:25] <Yourname> anon32: Found it. As 'nm' and when I try to exec it, it says a.out, no such file. :(
[11:25] <talisein> mememe: eh, you need a microphone enabled? Did you try doubleclicking the speaker icon and going into Preferences?
[11:26] <LjL> mememe: the alsamixer man page says you need to press Space, but i just learned that 2 minutes ago. perhaps the Gnome Mixer help describes the procedure too.
[11:26] <anon32> Yourname, that's the problem with using alien, sometimes it doesn't work
[11:26] <Em3rald> Ooo, a sound person ... I have a question for you too then ...
[11:26] <mememe> talisein,and than what?
[11:26] <talisein> alsamixer will work
[11:26] <b03nto> please enlight me with this, i have 3.06 ghz processor, but in cpuinfo it say only 1600 mhz, is it normal ?
[11:26] <LjL> talisein: enabled for recording, not just for passthru to the speakers
[11:26] <Yourname> anon32: any alternative suggestions, please? I now have a .tgz and a .deb of the network manager.
[11:26] <Em3rald> Can I make my Mic port into an output?  Onboard sound.
[11:26] <anon32> b03nto, no, but we don't know how to fix it either
[11:26] <talisein> mememe: make sure all those boxes, or at least anything to do with the microphone works, is checked.
[11:27] <LjL> Em3rald: err... no. really don't think so.
[11:27] <bbrazil> Em3rald: depends on the soundcard
[11:27] <mememe> checked
[11:27] <talisein> mememe: then close the preferences and look at the main volume control window
[11:27] <anon32> Yourname, open the .tgz and read the README
[11:27] <Em3rald> Hmm, thought so.  Okay, let me get the info and maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
[11:27] <anon32> maybe it'll enlighten you to the normal install method
[11:27] <mememe> done that
[11:27] <elfranger> good evening
[11:27] <talisein> mememe: then click the Capture tab and unmute the microphone
[11:27] <b03nto> anon31, thanks...
[11:27] <mememe> done
[11:28] <talisein> mememe: does it work? ;)
[11:28] <elfranger> any way I can modify ubuntu's adduser?
[11:28] <mememe> wait a seccond.
[11:28] <mon^rch> what's the best frontend to format cdrw media etc. ???
[11:28] <YoG> hi cam someone help me with usb wlan?
[11:28] <talisein> mon^rch: nautilus works
[11:28] <mememe> nope.
[11:28] <elfranger>  Idon't want it o autocreate the home dir... I am creating a lot of ftpusers and they should all have the same homedir...
[11:28] <JDStone> anyone have smartmontools working on Ubuntu with SATA drives?
[11:28] <elfranger> any idea?
[11:28] <talisein> mememe: try unclicking the other button by microphone
[11:28] <mon^rch> talisein: how ???
[11:29] <mememe> what>
[11:29] <mememe> ??
[11:29] <Praxi> can different linux installs share the same swap partition?
[11:29] <K1765> What would cause linux to say "Error Reading Boot CD"
[11:29] <talisein> mon^rch: when you insert the cdrw, it will probably pop up with a CD symbol on the desktop. Rightclick on it and it should give you a blanking option
[11:29] <LjL> Praxi: probably, but take care with hibernation, because normally linux uses the swap partition for hibernation.
[11:29] <YoG> help?
[11:29] <JosefK> Praxi: yes, so long as you don't want any of them to support hibernation
[11:29] <mememe> talisein what??
[11:29] <mon^rch> talisein: ok, 1 sec
[11:29] <elfranger> hm,very hard to get anyone's attention here...
[11:29] <talisein> mememe: so in my list there is a little microphone symbol and a speaker symbol. one of them should do what you want
[11:30] <b03nto> anyway, what is bogomips ?
[11:30] <YoG> elfeanger, you can say that again...
[11:30] <JosefK> elfranger: adduser --no-create-home
[11:30] <mememe> ok
[11:30] <talisein> mememe: also try turning the volume ont he microphone up
[11:30] <Lam_> how do i open a new server connection screen in xchat using the text line?
[11:30] <mememe> but every one with a mic is enable
[11:30] <mcruz> hello
[11:30] <elfranger> JosefK: really?
[11:30] <JosefK> elfranger: man adduser
[11:30] <mcphail> elfranger: your question is answered very clearly in the man page
[11:30] <Ash-Fox> Is there any way I can force backing store ONLY for one particular window or just in Xnest?
[11:30] <elfranger> JosefK: ok, will do
[11:31] <elfranger> sorry all for not reading the man pages first... lesson learnt
[11:31] <K1765> What would cause linux to say "Error Reading Boot CD" when trying to install it?
[11:31] <LjL> talisein: some soundcards (like my own embedded) also have a separate "capture" slider (or whatever it's called) that must be both selected and/or turned up, for capturing from any line-input to work
[11:31] <K1765> I checked with checksum and nothing was corrupt.
[11:31] <leakd>  n8
[11:31] <talisein> LjL: oh you're right
[11:31] <YoG> can anyone help me with a usb wlan problem? please?
[11:31] <Zambezi> Dapper or Edgy as a server? It's long uptimes, stable and secture system I would like.
[11:31] <mememe> talisein
[11:31] <talisein> mememe: scroll to the right and there should be a capture bar
[11:31] <RMorris84> !fdisk
[11:32] <mememe> and?
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <talisein> mememe: turn it up
[11:32] <mememe> what capture bar?
[11:32] <mon^rch> talisein: nautilus isn't cutting the mustard with formatting my cdrw know of anything else ??? (k3b, maybe)
[11:32] <K1765> What would cause linux to say "Error Reading Boot CD", I checked with checksum and it said nothing was corrupt
[11:32] <talisein> mememe: Okay, in Volume Control, in the Capture tab, scroll the window to the far right.
[11:32] <TGPO> mon^rch: k3b always works for me
[11:33] <talisein> mememe: you should see an up-down slider labeled capture
[11:33] <mon^rch> ty TGPO
[11:33] <mememe> well,i dont see one
[11:33] <K1765> What would cause linux to say "Error Reading Boot CD", I checked with checksum and it said nothing was corrupt........
[11:33] <talisein> mememe: crap
[11:33] <dredhammer> ANyone know of a way to add the mplayer plugin to Iceweasel?
[11:33] <talisein> mememe: what do you see? :)
[11:33] <b03nto> please enlight me with this, i have 3.06 ghz processor, but in cpuinfo it say only 1600 mhz, is it normal ? is it got something to do with clockmod or speedstep things ?
[11:34] <krazykit> would there be a reason that ifconfig reports a different IP on an interface than I have?  it reports the "fake" ip of 169.254.70.154, which dhclient gives back when it can't pick up an IP... even though it has one and i'm using it right now
[11:34] <talisein> dredhammer: is there a /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins on your system?
[11:34] <mememe> PCM,Synth,Line-in,CD,Microphone,Aux
[11:34] <Praxi> whats the normal way to shutdown X if I wanted to install the Nvidia drivers?  I did it, but I did it by editing x conf file to be invalid hehe
[11:34] <jbmigel> b03nto yes
[11:34] <dredhammer> yes
[11:34] <XVampireX> dredhammer, iceweasel is firefox, plugins are checked in mozilla
[11:34] <dredhammer> hmm
[11:34] <K1765> What would cause linux to say "Error Reading Boot CD", I checked with checksum and it said nothing was corrupt
[11:34] <talisein> dredhammer: make a link from there to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[11:34] <XVampireX> Could someone help K1765?
[11:34] <dredhammer> it tells me i need the plugin for streaming media
[11:34] <Praxi> memory could be corrupting it
[11:34] <mememe> talisein PCM,Synth,Line-in,CD,Microphone,Aux
[11:34] <K1765> Yes please could they
[11:34] <dredhammer> i installed flash and java fine
[11:34] <mon^rch> what is all this compiz stuff I keep hearing about???
[11:34] <Praxi> run memtest
[11:35] <reverie> Hey guys.
[11:35] <dredhammer> mplayer is compiled
[11:35] <LjL> !compiz > mon^rch
[11:35] <b03nto> jbmigel, finally some respond :), yes on what normal, speetstep or clockmod things ?
[11:35] <YoG> can anyone help me with a usb wlan problem?
[11:35] <mon^rch> ty LjL
[11:35] <XVampireX> Hey
[11:35] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: is that all ? i think mine was much longer
[11:35] <talisein> mememe: go back to Edit-> Prefrences and look for a Capture box to click
[11:35] <Jbirk> Hi
[11:35] <XVampireX> Could someone help K1765?
[11:35] <Jbirk> have any of you heard of Ubuntu unleashed
[11:35] <Praxi> just did hehe
[11:35] <mon^rch> how "stable" is running xgl and compiz on edgy???
[11:35] <XVampireX> Cause that's as far as I got him, to give ubuntu a try
[11:35] <reverie> Has anyone had problems with "Buffer I/O Error on device hdc" while trying to boot Edgy Eft RC?
[11:35] <Praxi> K1765: run memtest
[11:35] <dcordes> Jbirk: what's that?
[11:36] <K1765> What would cause linux to say "Error Reading Boot CD", I checked with checksum and it said nothing was corrupt
[11:36] <Jbirk> An Ubuntu book
[11:36] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: not the text I /msg'd you, go to my livejournal. Note that it installed to /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf not /etc/dovecot.conf
[11:36] <Jbirk> I bought a book on Ubuntu, yesterday
[11:36] <K1765> ok Praxi
[11:36] <jbmigel> b03nto ubuntu has powernowd enabled by default which "underclocks" your chip to save power and noise. if your usage goes above 95% or so it will kick up to 3ghz again
[11:36] <K1765> thanks
[11:36] <K1765> ill try that
[11:36] <mememe> talisien everything is enabled
[11:36] <YoG> can anyone help me with a usb wlan problem?
[11:36] <LjL> mon^rch: as "stable" as you can get from running an unstable window manager on an unstable X server on an unstable Linux distribution ;-)
[11:36] <Davey|Ubuntu> Hey, is there any easy way to create a striped array in linux? GUI perhaps? Or a HOW-TO? :)
[11:36] <Praxi> that happens on XP installs too when your memory is bad, says things like corrupt files blah blah K1765
[11:36] <talisein> mememe: ehh. =( is the microphone plugged in?
[11:36] <Jbirk> The answer is it should be okay
[11:36] <mememe> yeah
[11:36] <{_-IcE-_}> {_-IcE-_}: can i have the link pls? first timer :)
[11:37] <mememe> i can hear sounds from the mic
[11:37] <LjL> mememe: perhaps test also with another program, such as Audacity for example (or the Gnome sound recorder, if there is such thing), to see if you can record from the mic
[11:37] <XVampireX> Praxi: Thanks :)
[11:37] <mon^rch> lol LjL
[11:37] <b03nto> jbmigel, thank you so much for you info, one more thing what is this bogomips things ?
[11:37] <talisein> mememe: go through the Capture tab and unmute everything and raise the volume on everything up.
[11:37] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: can i have the link pls? first timer :)
[11:37] <Praxi> np, now if someone could just tell me the proper way to shutdown X! :)
[11:37] <Studiosus> hi, folks :) How to inherit my console environment vars (PATH etc) in gnome session?
[11:37] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: talisein.livejournal.com
[11:37] <mon^rch> maybe I just won't install it then (looks pretty tho)
[11:37] <mememe> talisein,i already done that
[11:37] <LjL> Praxi: what do you mean by "proper"?
[11:37] <Yourname> How can I install a .tgz network manger?!
[11:37] <jbmigel> b03nto http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BogoMips/bogo-faq.html
[11:37] <YoG> Praxi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:38] <talisein> mememe: how are you testing the microphone?
[11:38] <mememe> using two diffrent tuners
[11:38] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: tnx very very much, i'll give it a try
[11:38] <YoG> Praxi: assuming you are runing gnome
[11:38] <Praxi> thanks yog :)  I mean the way I did it before was just crash the config
[11:38] <XVampireX> Yourname, sounds like a slackware package
[11:38] <Praxi> ya yog
[11:38] <LjL> Yourname: .tgz is an archive format (well, two archive formats actually). it's like .zip -- it's just a container for files. what is contained in it is a completely different matter.
[11:38] <b03nto> thanks jbmikel, i ll check that link... :)
[11:38] <YoG> Praxi: np
[11:38] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: let me know when I can delete that entry ;)
[11:38] <XVampireX> :P
[11:39] <YoG> can anyone help me with a usb wlan problem?
[11:39] <LjL> Yourname: what *is* the program that you're trying to install?
[11:39] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: saved to notepad so u could delete, tnx mate
[11:39] <YoG> sob....
[11:39] <talisein> mememe: Goto File->Change device... what do you see?
[11:39] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: np
[11:39] <jbmigel> YoG could you be a little specific about your problem or should i just tell you to plug it in?
[11:40] <mememe> alsa mixer and oss mixer
[11:40] <ianmacgregor> jbmigel: lol
[11:40] <JavaDeveloper> does anybody know how to make Firefox faster in Ubuntu 6.06? I wonder if this is Firefox's problem or Linux's problem.  It seems like Firefox but I guess you guys would know little tricks and tips for it.  I am using Athlon2100+, 2GB.  Any idea?
[11:40] <talisein> mememe: and its on alsa right?
[11:40] <mememe> yeah
[11:40] <joevandyk> Where's a fast place to get an edgy iso?
[11:40] <YoG> jbmigel: I did'nt see any reason to tell the whole story before anyone reacts...
[11:40] <joevandyk> cdimage.ubuntu.com is slow
[11:41] <Yourname> LjL: Network Manager 0.6.4
[11:41] <YoG> jbmigel: It seems the module crashes after awhile...
[11:41] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: I am using Linksys WUSB12, does that help you?
[11:41] <RMorris84> how do i format a usb memory stick? its a creative muvo mp3 player stick, and i dont know what the default disk setup was... but i formatted it with 2 partitions and now i want it back to stock...
[11:41] <talisein> mememe: what do you mean when you say you are using 2 different tuners?
[11:41] <mememe> you know
[11:41] <mememe> guitartuners
[11:41] <mememe> guitar tuners
[11:41] <TGPO> anyone know where I could find wine 64bit repo for edgy? winehq has nothing for edgy x64
[11:41] <jbmigel> YoG do you get any errors in dmesg?
[11:41] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: do you have any issus with it?
[11:41] <snoops> it's probably the ipv6 issue JavaDeveloper.. check the forums to disable ipv6 since it's doing two requests
[11:41] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: nope.  Running extremely smooth
[11:41] <kingsley_> Why would typing "xhost +LOCAL:" in an xterm allow other users' applications to open windows, but putting "-" followed by "+LOCAL:" in /etc/X0.hosts would not?
[11:42] <LjL> Yourname: the .tgz you have is probably raw source code that you will have to compile. are you sure you can't live with the version that's shipped by Ubuntu (i.e. 0.6.2)?
[11:42] <YoG> jbmigel: not that I can remeber...
[11:42] <JavaDeveloper> snoops: the browser is not very responsive when it loads javascript, does that matter?
[11:42] <matjan> !request http://www.sabrinasabrok.com/members/members_eng.html (ccbill)
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request http://www.sabrinasabrok.com/members/members_eng.html (ccbill) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <Praxi> doh didn't work for me YoG
[11:42] <YoG> jbmigel: sometimes doing: modprobe uhci_hcd -r
[11:42] <talisein> mememe: software guitar tuners? Try looking through the settings for those, I guess.
[11:42] <Yourname> LjL: Not really. I need WPA2 to work with it, and although my apt-get says I have wpa_supplicant.. I trust 0.6.4 to do the job right from the front end.
[11:42] <mcruz2> any coders in here?
[11:42] <LjL> !compile Yourname
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile Yourname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <mcruz2> perl?
[11:42] <YoG> jbmigel: and the modprobe uhci_hcd
[11:42] <LjL> Yourname: your best bet is following that guide
[11:43] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: what USB WLAN you are using?
[11:43] <YoG> jbmigel: fixes the problem...
[11:43] <snoops> actually I've always found javascript a little bit slow on linux firefox JavaDeveloper.. it's quite a bit faster on konqueror
[11:43] <Praxi> It told me it was aborint gdm, then I tried to install the NVIDIA linux driver, and said X was still running
[11:43] <mememe> talisein,you think both of them dont good enogh?
[11:43] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: Acer...
[11:43] <Yourname> LjL: The thing is, I do know the compile stuff too.
[11:43] <Yourname> But everytime I do ./configure.. it stops with erros.
[11:43] <talisein> mememe: no. I just don't know anything about guitar tuners ;)
[11:43] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: do you know what module you should use for it? cuz I am using Prism2_usb
[11:43] <jbmigel> YoG well are you sure your just not losing connection to your router?
[11:43] <YoG> Javadeveloper: Acer Warplink USB Adapter.
[11:43] <LjL> Yourname: yeah, that's probably because you don't have a compiler installed in the first place. so try reading that guide ;)
[11:43] <johnny__> hey all
[11:43] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: same here
[11:43] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: if you are using that, then I can give you my script and it runs in seconds
[11:44] <mememe> talisein,its just getting your mic sound
[11:44] <mememe> and show where is it and where it should be
[11:44] <Yourname> lol
[11:44] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: so did you install wlan-ng from repo?
[11:44] <YoG> jbmigel: it doesnt looks like loosing connectivity
[11:44] <Yourname> I installed gcc
[11:44] <LjL> Yourname: which is wrong. follow the guide.
[11:44] <LjL> Yourname: you need to install build-essential. but really, follow the guide.
[11:44] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: wait, what problem you are encountering with it now? disconnecting?
[11:44] <Yourname> LjL: Okie dokie.. yes sir.
[11:45] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: yup, linux-wlan-ng...
[11:45] <talisein> mememe: yeah, but how does that software interact with the system sound settings?
[11:45] <dbmerk> is there a way to force bad block checking when formatting a hard drive? My install is failing when copying files at the same point (70%) no matter the underlying file system (reiserfs or ext3)
[11:45] <reverie> Has anyone had problems with "Buffer I/O Error on device hdc" while trying to boot Edgy Eft RC?
[11:45] <johnny__> for this statement "In order to install ndiswrapper you need a copy the windows drivers for your Wireless ethernet device." is the windows driver my wireless card driver?
[11:45] <mememe> talisein
[11:46] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: it looks like something "locks", When I remove it and reinsert the dongle it starts to work - until the next time it locks (usually ~10 minutes)
[11:46] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: so what problem you have now? You cannot make it running? cuz if you have something else, my installation script may not work for you
[11:46] <mememe> just getting sound from my mic
[11:46] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: locks.....
[11:46] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: No it runs...
[11:46] <Praxi> How do I make Gnome quit opening a new window every time I double click a directory?
[11:46] <talisein> mememe: are you using gtkguitune for one of them?
[11:46] <RMorris84> how do i formatt a usb stick that has two partitions on it to just one fat32
[11:46] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: locks... yes...
[11:46] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: okay...are you BTing from other computer on  the same network using the same router?
[11:47] <mememe> yeah
[11:47] <iratsu_> is ubuntu installable from floppy?
[11:47] <shuan> hello
[11:47] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: some times...
[11:47] <talisein> go to Options -> Recording Input. what is it set to?
[11:47] <shuan> can someone kindly tell me how to install automatix?
[11:47] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: I allso encounter the same problem with Windoze
[11:47] <talisein> !automatix
[11:47] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[11:47] <JavaDeveloper> YoG: then it's not about the driver...should be the hardware then
[11:48] <YoG> JavaDeveloper: is there a way to make linux think I ejected and reinserted my dongle?
[11:48] <YoG> (that sound so dirty)
[11:48] <RMorris84> how do i formatt a usb stick that has two partitions on it to just one fat32
[11:48] <talisein> YoG: unmount it and mount it
[11:48] <TGPO> umount /dev/sda1
[11:48] <b03nto> jbmikel, umm i wonder what  PREEMPT meaning for ?
[11:49] <YoG> talisein: how do i do that?
[11:49] <Seveas> b03nto, preemptable kernel
[11:49] <LjL> iratsu_: you can probably *boot* it from floppy, but you'd still need to have a CD to actually install
[11:49] <YoG> talisein: umount?
[11:49] <kane77> hi. I'm trying using fluxbox, but I cant make it remember the screen resolution... how can I do it?
[11:49] <talisein> YoG: First type "mount" and figure out what /dev/device it is
[11:49] <YoG> talisein: if umount... then what device?
[11:49] <iratsu_> LjL: there's no floppy netinstall thing? =\
[11:49] <TGPO> YoG umount /dev/sda1 or whatever its location is
[11:49] <LjL> !install > iratsu_
[11:49] <b03nto> Seveas, and what exactly its mean ? is it faster than non preemt things ?
[11:49] <Seveas> iratsu_, can't fit linux 2.6on a floppy
[11:50] <LjL> iratsu_: that lists all the ways ubuntu can conceivably be installed. but i doubt a debian-style netinstall exists.
[11:50] <Seveas> b03nto, that's a side effect of it
[11:50] <talisein> YoG: then sudo umount /media/usbdisk then sudo mount /dev/whatthedevicewas /some/new/place
[11:50] <luckyone> hello all
[11:50] <luckyone> does anyone know of any good word games for linux?
[11:50] <talisein> mememe: go to Options -> Recording Input. what is it set to?
[11:50] <iratsu_> Seveas: could i install with an old kernel and then upgrade?
[11:50] <YoG> talisein, TPGO: I'll look for the device...
[11:51] <Seveas> iratsu_, no
[11:51] <mememe> where?
[11:51] <talisein> mememe: gtkguitune
[11:51] <mememe> oh
[11:51] <mememe> ok
[11:51] <Studiosus> hi, folks :) How to inherit my console environment vars (PATH etc) in X/gnome session?
[11:51] <b03nto> k, one more thing Seveas, so the bigger bogomips the better right ?
[11:51] <mememe> its set to Vol
[11:51] <talisein> mememe: try setting it to mic
[11:51] <LjL> b03nto: in a "preemptive" multitasking system, programs are forcibly taken away from the CPU by the operating system. this way, you can use multiple programs concurrently (due to the system making each program run for a fraction of a second), without the programs actually having to do anything to allow this to work.  "preemptible kernel" means that some tasks that are executed by the kernel itself can be preempted the same way as normal programs
[11:51] <LjL> can.
[11:51] <Seveas> b03nto, not nccessarily but it's not a bad indication
[11:52] <dcordes> d-E-u-S: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27709/
[11:52] <mememe> still,nothing
[11:52] <RMorris84> how do i formatt a usb stick that has two partitions on it to just one fat32
[11:52] <talisein> mememe: try the other options
[11:52] <YoG> talisein, TPGO: I don't see it with "mount"
[11:52] <Seveas> RMorris84, you probably can't
[11:52] <TGPO> YoG: lsusb
[11:52] <Praxi> can in windows
[11:52] <johnny__> where can i find or get windopws drivers please?
[11:52] <Seveas> RMorris84, but maybe gparted can help you
[11:52] <johnny__> windows*
[11:52] <mememe> talisein,nothing
[11:52] <Seveas> !windows
[11:52] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[11:52] <YoG> TPGO: yes, i see him there, what now?
[11:53] <RMorris84> Seveas: i had it before as just one, and i used linux to make it the way it is not... but i cant remember how i did it before lol
[11:53] <YoG> TPGO: "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0967:0204 Acer (??) WarpLink 802.11b Adapter"
[11:53] <Seveas> RMorris84, then gparted can help 
[11:53] <Seveas> or fdisk
[11:53] <Seveas> or any partition editor
[11:53] <johnny__> ty
[11:53] <RMorris84> Seveas: its a creative muvo mp3 player lol that i was using for DSLinux, and now i want it back as my mp3 player lol
[11:53] <TGPO> YoG: umount /dev/sda(1or2)
[11:54] <YoG> TPGO: and then? "mount /dev/sda1or2"?
[11:54] <RMorris84> Seveas: in fdisk its /dev/sdb and it shows the patitions when i put in the "p" command but i dont know what i need to do now
[11:54] <b03nto> thanks guys, the thigs is i have some custom kernel with lower bogomips than original kernel, but somehow its feels more responsive..
[11:54] <TGPO> YoG: sda1 or sda2
[11:54] <Seveas> RMorris84, then try cfdisk -- it'smuch easier to use
[11:54] <F28_AFK> Hi all
[11:54] <YoG> TPGO: yeah, I understood it... :)
[11:54] <F28> is Ubuntu hard to install to a HD
[11:55] <RMorris84> Seveas: thats what one i used before! lol
[11:55] <YoG> TPGO: just making sure
[11:55] <LjL> F28: it shoudn't.
[11:55] <Seveas> F28, no -- you can even do it drunk
[11:55] <dbmerk> is there a way to force bad block checking when formatting a hard drive? My install is failing when copying files at the same point (70%) no matter the underlying file system (reiserfs or ext3)
[11:55] <F28> ok thanks
[11:55] <talisein> mememe: well, try setting it back to mic, and then fiddle  with the settings in volume control again. I don't help more than that
[11:55] <TGPO> of all the lousy ..... no x64 wine for edgy ... I hate compiling
[11:55] <dbmerk> this s for an initial install
[11:55] <LjL> Seveas: which is probably the best choice, if you already have an operating system on the same drive and trust the installer to resize its partition without having a backup.
[11:56] <YoG> TPGO: mount gives me "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[11:56] <YoG> TPGO: for both of them
[11:56] <elfranger> help, look at this page... http://www.jrsweb.org/
[11:56] <JosefK> YoG: you need to give it a destination
[11:56] <oidia> where does apt place the eggdrop files?
[11:57] <LjL> oidia: type "dpkg -L eggdrop"
[11:57] <elfranger> I am having problems with the norwegian characters...
[11:57] <JosefK> YoG: ie 'sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1'
[11:57] <oidia> LjL: thanks
[11:57] <YoG> JosefK: yes... the thing is its working now without being mount
[11:57] <elfranger> does anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[11:57] <Yourname> LjL: How to configure wpa_supplicant to use with Network Manager?
[11:57] <Yourname> Would you now? :$
[11:57] <Yourname> know*
[11:57] <Em3rald> Okay perhaps someone can help me with my sound thing.  This is not a "problem", just something I want to do.
[11:57] <elfranger> I am running other sites off the same server, and the have no problems with the same characters...
[11:57] <Seveas> Yourname, if you use n-m, you don't need to configure wpa_supplicant
[11:58] <RMorris84> Seveas: thanks for the help, i got it now! :)
[11:58] <LjL> Yourname: no, sorry, i don't use Gnome (or wireless networks for that matter
[11:58] <Yourname> Seveas: The 0.6.2 nm that was given in ubuntu only has WEP, not WPA.
[11:58] <Em3rald> I have a Soltek Nforce mobo (ac97) and I want to use either the mic or the line-in as a sound output.
[11:58] <Seveas> Yourname, nonsense
[11:58] <Em3rald> the board was designed with surround in mind.
[11:58] <Yourname> Seveas: Wanna help me, please?
[11:58] <YoG> TPGO: any other ideas?
[11:58] <Em3rald> but I only have regular stereo, so I don't really care about the surround thing.
[11:58] <Em3rald> Basically I want dual outputs of the same signal.
[11:59] <seb--> what file do i specify my WEP key in?
[11:59] <LjL> Em3rald: i don't think the mic or line-in plugs are going to give you that. they're probably directly connected to an analog-to-digital converter. you should possibly look at the other (surround) outputs, which maybe, with clever mixer settings or software, can be set to output an exact copy of the main (front) signal
[12:00] <elfranger> bla bla bla bla
[12:00] <conreyt> seb--: it's in /etc/network/
[12:00] <Diegomel> #ubuntu-es
[12:00] <elfranger> what does ttyl mean?
[12:00] <seb--> conreyt: yes but which file in there?
[12:00] <elfranger> talk-to-you-later
[12:00] <elfranger> ha ha ah