ryanakca | freeflying_: system settings -> Regional & Languages -> Keyboard Layout | 12:17 |
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ryanakca | Set your keyboard model | 12:18 |
ryanakca | freeflying_: keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts | 12:18 |
Riddell | Mez: hi | 12:18 |
freeflying_ | ryanakca: I mean some func key, like Fn+Fx | 12:19 |
Mez | Riddell: just an FYI... I have a couple of patches to put into katapult in main ... fix for bug 48103 and bug 60136 | 12:20 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 48103 in katapult "Katapult don't start with swedish localisation" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/48103 | 12:20 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 60136 in katapult "Katapult doesn't work with Amarok >= 1.4.2" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60136 | 12:20 |
Mez | Riddell, I've spoken to tfheen regarding them - he's going to speak to you after I post the patch for the second | 12:23 |
Mez | Riddell: however, the first one's been available for a while (but I only found out about it last week due to it being filed under ubuntu and not showing up in any of my buglists) | 12:24 |
Riddell | Mez: and you think these should get into edgy? | 12:32 |
Riddell | interesting website redesign http://flavio.tordini.org/kubuntu-restyling/ | 12:32 |
mhb | Riddell: yeah | 12:32 |
Riddell | interesting how it uses gnome icons | 12:32 |
mhb | Riddell: I'm writing just now that it's an interesting idea | 12:32 |
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mhb | Riddell: Ken's doing some modification to the website too, right? | 12:34 |
Riddell | yes | 12:36 |
Mez | Riddell: yes I do ... they're pretty important fixes really... 1) it means katapult doesnt work in anything other than english language if not | 12:37 |
Mez | 2) a core catalog doesnt work with the version in edgy | 12:37 |
Riddell | Mez: when will you have the patch posted? | 12:39 |
Mez | in about 10 mins when I've had someone test it ;) | 12:40 |
Mez | unless you want to ? | 12:40 |
Mez | (I dont have access to a linux machine at present) | 12:40 |
imbrandon | Tonio_, pong | 12:41 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: fancy testing the packages for mulmedia stuff ?* | 01:02 |
Mez | anyone fancy testing the fix for amarok/katapult ? | 01:03 |
ryanakca | freeflying_: func key? | 01:04 |
freeflying_ | ryanakca: some functions key | 01:04 |
ryanakca | freeflying_: like vol up/down? or something else? | 01:05 |
ryanakca | if something else, no clue :) | 01:05 |
freeflying_ | ryanakca: vol up/down | 01:06 |
ryanakca | yeah, you can set it by setting your keyboard model | 01:06 |
imbrandon | Tonio_, sure, cf query | 01:07 |
Mez | Riddell: patch attached to bug 60136 | 01:13 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 60136 in katapult "Katapult doesn't work with Amarok >= 1.4.2" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60136 | 01:13 |
ryanakca | umm, how do I change my resolution without restarting X or editing my xorg.conf since the Monitor & Display of System Settings is broken? | 01:23 |
ryanakca | bug 62223 | 01:23 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62223 in kde-guidance "Monitor & Display, User Management, Disk & Filesystems - All Broken" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62223 | 01:23 |
ryanakca | anyone mind my editing https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems so that it looks more like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | 01:28 |
ryanakca | and removing the fixed bugs from that list? | 01:29 |
Riddell | Mez: got a debdiff against the current katapult? | 01:30 |
nixternal | Riddell: so we are kind of hosed on fixing the release notes? | 01:31 |
Riddell | nixternal: yep | 01:33 |
nixternal | alright...im going to work with jjesse, and from now on, every version# will become an entity. that way there, we can update version numbers w/o working about translation strings | 01:33 |
nixternal | fdoving just showed me 2 spelling mistakes as well in there...that kind of makes me mad that I let that slip through the cracks | 01:34 |
ryanakca | nixternal: hosed on fixing the release notes? *wonders if this applies to the editing I'm doing at the moment* | 01:34 |
nixternal | no no | 01:35 |
nixternal | release notes in the kubuntu-docs package | 01:35 |
ryanakca | kk, phew :) | 01:35 |
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nixternal | ryanakca: if you want to help out more with documentation, im sure myself, jjesse, trappist, and robotgeek can put you to work come feisty work | 01:36 |
nixternal | oh btw, if you are interested, jjesse and i will begin work on a "Switching from Windows to Kubuntu" book as well | 01:36 |
ryanakca | oooh, very :) | 01:36 |
nixternal | we will have a guide the will do desktop to desktop migration, but i would like to expand on that and also cover the main applications as well, i.e., Office to OOo or KOffice | 01:37 |
ryanakca | not sure to what extend I can help, but I'd love to help wherever I can | 01:37 |
nixternal | grab the trunk svn from doc repos, follow along in there, learn some docbook and xml if you do't know it already...docbook and xml is very easy | 01:38 |
nixternal | i have kind of expanded in doc work, as I do the Kubuntu docs, now the Edubuntu docs (Handbook mostly) and working with KDE docs and learning the debian.docbook stuff | 01:39 |
ryanakca | kindof like what's that book called... umm... by Marcel Gagne | 01:40 |
ryanakca | "Moving to Linux: Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye! " | 01:40 |
nixternal | heh, ya, but Kubuntu specific | 01:41 |
ryanakca | kk, comes with a kubuntu live CD I presume? | 01:43 |
ryanakca | XML from what I see, it's sole purpose is to organise information | 01:43 |
nixternal | yup | 01:43 |
nixternal | and then we use kde and kubuntu css and xsl templates to make the docs look the way they do | 01:44 |
ryanakca | ah | 01:45 |
ryanakca | ok, wheres the docbook howto/tutorial | 01:45 |
nixternal | http://docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html | 01:46 |
nixternal | how about the book instead ;) | 01:46 |
ryanakca | *cough* *cough* *hack* *choke* *sputter* *dead* | 01:47 |
nixternal | [18:47:15] [Notice] -ChanServ- You have been added to the access list for #ubuntu-colorado with level [10] | 01:47 |
ryanakca | I thought you said it was simple :) | 01:47 |
nixternal | i wonder if that was by accident? | 01:47 |
ryanakca | the table of contents scares me :) | 01:47 |
ryanakca | lol, no clue... | 01:47 |
nixternal | it is simple, it is as easy as html, especially once you get a grip on the tags | 01:48 |
nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | 01:48 |
nixternal | that link will kind of go over the doc team stuff as well | 01:48 |
ryanakca | ah, well, I'll look at it... | 01:48 |
ryanakca | "Rights are granted by current Documentation Team administrators after some substantial contribution to the project. " :) | 01:50 |
ryanakca | I guess in mean time, I'll be emailing stuff to you :D | 01:50 |
nixternal | yes | 01:54 |
ryanakca | nixternal: wheres the svn trunk? | 01:54 |
nixternal | easier to mail the doc-list | 01:54 |
ryanakca | kk | 01:54 |
nixternal | https://docteam.ubuntu.com | 01:54 |
nixternal | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk i think is the full | 01:54 |
nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Repository | 01:54 |
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ryanakca | nixternal: think anybody would mind my editing https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems so that it looks more like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems ? | 01:56 |
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ryanakca | nixternal: I think docteam.ubuntu.com is down... "The server at 65.19.178.132 is taking too long to respond." | 01:58 |
nixternal | great, that would be because the italian loco is so massive and popular | 02:00 |
nixternal | it is up | 02:00 |
ryanakca | kk, ty | 02:12 |
ryanakca | nixternal: kubuntu/desktopguide/ ? | 02:14 |
ryanakca | nixternal: and how would I export it? (I've never had to use svn before) | 02:15 |
ryanakca | nixternal: and on Kubuntu/Release, why [[MailTo(foo AT bar DOT guru,foo(at)bar(dot)guru)] ] instead of [[MailTo(foo AT bar DOT guru)] ] ? | 02:19 |
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httpdss | im trying to use keep for backup, the thing is that as destination i select remote:/Backup (which references smb://192.168.xxx.xxx/Backup) ... when trying to backup, log shows error, as if i dont have RW access to that share, but i do have RW access through konqueror... any clue? can someone reproduce this ?... | 04:24 |
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DaSkreech | How goes? | 06:03 |
Tm_T | DaSkreech: It doesn't. | 06:07 |
DaSkreech | Are you being Fiesty? | 06:08 |
Tm_T | Fiesty? | 06:08 |
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DaSkreech | What s left to be wrapped up for Edgy Release? | 06:09 |
Tm_T | Sorry I lost you, wave a bit so I may notice you in the sand. | 06:09 |
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crimsun | DaSkreech: more testing than you can shake Hobbsee's stick at | 06:17 |
DaSkreech | Who's been shaking Hobbsee's stick? | 06:17 |
crimsun | I think...she has? | 06:18 |
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DaSkreech | Oooh Memory Stick? | 06:29 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: ... | 06:29 |
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DaSkreech | How are you Hobbsee? I haven't seen you in like a month | 06:30 |
Hobbsee | that stick. | 06:30 |
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Hobbsee | DaSkreech: uni'ing, fixing unmet deps, etc | 06:30 |
DaSkreech | Hows Uni? Still mkaing you get up early? | 06:31 |
Hobbsee | yeah. when i get there :P | 06:31 |
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Tm_T | Bit OT but this is the way docs should be: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-speakingunix4/?ca=dgr-lnxw07UNIXpart4 | 06:32 |
Tm_T | "From the dawn of the electronic age a scant 50 years ago..." | 06:32 |
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Lure | why does kontact show News icon, even though knode is not installed by default? | 08:27 |
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seaLne | Lure: known feature, was discussed a while ago can't remember what was said tho | 10:36 |
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Mez | seaLne, w00 for organising akademy, wheres it going to be (not the city, the venue) | 10:42 |
seaLne | strath.ac.uk | 10:46 |
seaLne | says on the website :) | 10:46 |
seaLne | fancy helping? :) | 10:47 |
seaLne | grrr i was happy kpilot started working again in edgy but it has now removed all my todo and calendar entries :( | 10:48 |
seaLne | it synced them all to my computer and removed them from my treo :( | 10:48 |
seaLne | i have a completly empty cal and todo | 10:49 |
mhb | can somebody explain to me why some KDE icons are in hicolor and other in crystalsvg ... what is the difference? | 11:04 |
seaLne | maybe there aren't crystal icons for them | 11:06 |
mhb | seaLne: well the problem is the crystal icons for them (Konqueror, for instance) resides in hicolor insted of crystalsvg | 11:06 |
mhb | my question is related to the bug 67507 I'm looking at right now | 11:07 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 67507 in kdebase "Some image files are missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67507 | 11:07 |
mhb | (so many typos in one sentence) | 11:08 |
seaLne | ok, that dosen't sound like what i said | 11:08 |
mhb | seaLne: judging by the look of the icons the Crystal icons have been moved to hicolor, I just don't understand why | 11:09 |
seaLne | sorry not sure | 11:12 |
mhb | seaLne: no problem :o) | 11:14 |
seaLne | i'm currently trying to restore my life to my palm :-/ | 11:15 |
seaLne | nixternal: you use a palm don't you? | 11:15 |
marseillai | does someone use smart on kubuntu? | 11:16 |
fdoving | as in the package manager? | 11:19 |
Lure | seaLne: search in ~/.kde sometimes you find backup files when stuff is lost | 11:35 |
Lure | seaLne: kmail deleted 3800 mails from my imap and I have found them still in disconnected impa folder | 11:36 |
marseillai | fdoving: yes! it segfault for me | 11:38 |
fdoving | marseillai: i don't have it installed, hang on. installing. | 11:39 |
Lure | imbrandon: how do you package oxygen icons as icon theme? (you gave me once your tar file, but I have misplaced it somewhere... ;-)) | 11:39 |
imbrandon | grab it from svn , then get the gen script from kwwii dir ( ken ) and run it | 11:40 |
Lure | imbrandon: thanks | 11:40 |
marseillai | fdoving: it works now but i really don't see why everybody talks about smart ...... | 11:47 |
fdoving | marseillai: don't know, might be usable for people that want something that works for both dpkg and rpm distros. | 11:57 |
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fdoving | nixternal: ohwell. is the example-contents, kubuntu presentation to be more precise, also totally frozen? | 12:19 |
fdoving | (is it -doc?) stuff like 'TBD' 'Add some image here..' and everywhere says '6.06'.. | 12:21 |
fdoving | there is also a spelling mistake in kubuntu-leaflet.png - 'htpp://kubuntu.es' | 12:28 |
fdoving | I'll make bugreports. | 12:29 |
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fdoving | are the example contents translated? | 12:35 |
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mhb | fdoving: I doubt it, at least in most languages | 12:38 |
fdoving | then there might still be a chance. | 12:40 |
mhb | if such Rosetta translation exists it's not visible on the first few pages | 12:40 |
mhb | "Edgy example-content does not have any strings to be translated through Rosetta. " | 12:41 |
fdoving | :) | 12:42 |
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_Sime | fdoving: ping | 01:15 |
fdoving | _Sime: ack. | 01:18 |
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_Sime | fdoving: Can i get you to do a "strace -o displayconfig_py.txt displayconfig"? Just run it and cancel it immediately. | 01:25 |
_Sime | fdoving: then I can compare the two traces, working vs non-working. | 01:25 |
fdoving | will do. | 01:26 |
fdoving | uploading. it'll be at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/displayconfig_py.txt in ~2min. slow upload :| | 01:27 |
fdoving | i could gzip it maybe. | 01:28 |
fdoving | _Sime: it is at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/displayconfig_py.txt.gz | 01:28 |
_Sime | thanks. | 01:29 |
_Sime | got it | 01:29 |
_Sime | fdoving: Do you have a file called "python-support.pth" on your system? | 01:33 |
fdoving | hang on, checking. (sorry about the delay) | 01:44 |
fdoving | python-support: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/python-support.pth | 01:44 |
fdoving | python-support: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/python-support.pth | 01:44 |
fdoving | i have two of them. | 01:44 |
_Sime | ok, | 01:44 |
_Sime | fdoving: Which package does "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/iconv_codec.pth" belong to? | 01:46 |
fdoving | python2.4-iconvcodec: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/iconv_codec.pth | 01:47 |
_Sime | fdoving: do you know where that package came from? | 01:49 |
fdoving | hmm.. checking. | 01:49 |
fdoving | Maintainer: Changwoo Ryu <cwryu@debian.org> | 01:50 |
fdoving | Version: 1.1.2-2.2ubuntu1 | 01:50 |
fdoving | probably ubuntu somewhere.. | 01:50 |
fdoving | it's not in the repos anymore. | 01:50 |
_Sime | fdoving: is it in the edgy repository? | 01:50 |
_Sime | ok | 01:50 |
_Sime | I mean Ah ha! | 01:50 |
_Sime | remove that package and then test displayconfig. | 01:50 |
fdoving | hang on. | 01:50 |
fdoving | wooohooo! :) | 01:53 |
fdoving | _Sime: works. you rock. :) | 01:53 |
_Sime | fdoving: and in kde-system-settings? | 01:53 |
fdoving | ran with kcmshell displayconfig, checking in system settings now. | 01:54 |
_Sime | looks good | 01:54 |
fdoving | works in system settings too. | 01:54 |
fdoving | all guidance modules are now working. | 01:55 |
_Sime | whoohoo! | 01:55 |
_Sime | I hope you didn't need that old package. | 01:55 |
fdoving | probably didn't. I haven't re-installed since hoary. so it's probably just leftovers. | 01:56 |
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_Sime | fdoving: thanks for your effort with this. It would not have been possible to track the problem down without those traces. | 02:01 |
fdoving | no problem, you did all the work :) | 02:01 |
_Sime | it was a b*st*rd of a bug too. | 02:02 |
fdoving | sure was. | 02:02 |
_Sime | something to do with shared libraries / modules conflicting. | 02:03 |
fdoving | also, this will probably only happen to people like me, who only update, and never reinstall. | 02:04 |
fdoving | will you add a conflict to the kde-guidance package? | 02:06 |
_Sime | I don't do any packaging, but yeah, I'll ask someone to add that conflict. | 02:07 |
fdoving | ok :) | 02:07 |
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Tonio_ | hi* | 02:22 |
_Sime | hi | 02:24 |
fdoving | hi. | 02:25 |
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Tonio_ | _Sime: your patches finally couldn't go in.... too late | 02:54 |
fdoving | know of any small package using cmake? | 02:54 |
_Sime | Tonio_: none of them? | 02:54 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: no :( | 02:54 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: but i've prepared packages for fiesty | 02:54 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: not including the latest but the previous version, so that we can wait for konq segfault to be fixed | 02:55 |
_Sime | Tonio_: will the new patches show up in an update? | 02:55 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: hum, hard to say... | 02:55 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: with the previous version, we have the segfault issue | 02:55 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: with the new patches, issues with 2 drives (which is a very common case) | 02:56 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: I think the reasonable way is to consider edgy as it is | 02:56 |
Tonio_ | something potentially unstable, and then focus on making fiesty more mature | 02:56 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: your patches are an attempt, as was systemsettings in the past | 02:56 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: something buggy but promissing, that will become great after 2 versions | 02:57 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: that's my feeling about them | 02:57 |
Tonio_ | _Sime: but Riddell will decide for updates, not me | 02:58 |
_Sime | ok, thanks. | 02:58 |
Tonio_ | hum, I'm thinking about placing a bounty on a konqueror issue | 02:59 |
Tonio_ | we have released 4 kubuntu versions without fixing this out....... | 02:59 |
fdoving | what issue is that? | 03:00 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: konqueror sometimes fail to mix kubuntu-default-settings | 03:01 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: that results incomplete menus etc..... | 03:02 |
fdoving | aw. not good. | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: it happens when konqueror is restored in a kde session, or when using preload session | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: it also happens when opening certain links that open a new window | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: should be linked to ksettings somehow, bads usage or something I don't know | 03:03 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm trying to clearly define the bug first, but I think I'l place a bounty for this, because I really want it to be fixed | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | the problem is that the way kubuntu defines its settings is different than what other distros do | 03:04 |
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Tonio_ | [Directories-default] | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/ | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | this is the way we do in kderc | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: we can workarround in patching and hardcoding the settings in kdebase, but I don't want that | 03:05 |
fdoving | hardcoding is generally bad. | 03:06 |
fdoving | hmm.. | 03:06 |
fdoving | are you aware of a package in the repos using cmake? | 03:06 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: hum... yes :) | 03:07 |
Riddell | strigi | 03:07 |
Tonio_ | qcomicbook | 03:07 |
Riddell | kde 4 | 03:07 |
fdoving | thanks :) | 03:07 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: not sure, if it is cmake or scons, but I think it is cmake | 03:07 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: what about kde4 ? :) | 03:07 |
fdoving | i'll get strigi, it's small and nice. | 03:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: ho you have been right not to change the session management in konq.... | 03:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the 'konqueror fail to load kds' happens very often | 03:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: all preloaded sessions are failing the settings, resulting incompletes menus | 03:09 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: we really need to get that fixed once an for all... I'm tired of workarrounding this issue everytime :) | 03:09 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: kde4 is cmake based ? hehe | 03:10 |
fdoving | it is. | 03:11 |
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_Sime | Riddell: have you read the IRC backlog? | 03:11 |
Riddell | _Sime: nope | 03:11 |
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_Sime | Riddell: ok, then. Long story short. The kde-guidance package needs a "Conflict: python2.4-iconvcodec" added. | 03:12 |
Riddell | _Sime: is that's what has been causing the fail to load? | 03:13 |
_Sime | Riddell: this solves bug 62223 | 03:13 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62223 in kde-guidance "Monitor & Display, User Management, Disk & Filesystems - All Broken" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62223 | 03:13 |
_Sime | Riddell: this is for that bug where all of the modules fail in k-s-s. | 03:13 |
gnomefreak | should konq show an icon when a hd is mounted that is ext3? | 03:14 |
Riddell | _Sime: do you know why it causes module to fail to load, and do you know why people have it installed? | 03:14 |
_Sime | Riddell: iconvcodec is an old package no longer in the repo. | 03:15 |
_Sime | Riddell: It contains a binary python module which gets read (for some reason) when Python starts up and runs the "site" module. | 03:16 |
_Sime | Riddell: when python is embedded, the site module would fail thanks to iconvcodec. | 03:16 |
_Sime | Riddell: I don't know why exactly iconvcodec would fail when embedded. | 03:17 |
_Sime | Riddell: but since it isn't even in the repo anymore, I consider the solution found. => remove that package. | 03:17 |
fdoving | it was in universe until dapper. | 03:17 |
fdoving | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=iconvcodec&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all | 03:18 |
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Tonio_ | fdoving: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=113517859227122&w=2 | 03:25 |
Tonio_ | fdoving: could be a patch for our bug ! | 03:25 |
fdoving | nice :) | 03:26 |
fdoving | compile & test then :) | 03:26 |
Riddell | _Sime: sounds good, I'll upload the change | 03:31 |
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gnomefreak | fdoving: are you busy atm? | 03:36 |
fdoving | Riddell: there is also bug 67527 67530 67537 if a change is possible before release. (not very very important, but first impression can be improved) | 03:36 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 67527 in example-content "[edgy] spelling mistake in kubuntu-leaflet.png" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67527 | 03:36 |
fdoving | gnomefreak: not very much. no. | 03:37 |
gnomefreak | fdoving: care to help someone with konq, krusader, bleh kde apps that are not viewing his filesystem ( /etc/ /boot/ and the rest) | 03:38 |
fdoving | gnomefreak: sure. where? | 03:38 |
gnomefreak | nautilus shows them if he chooses show hidden | 03:38 |
gnomefreak | #ubuntu+1 | 03:38 |
Riddell | mhb: hicolour is the fallback icon theme recognised by all freedesktop.org desktops, application icons go in there so they can be found by gnome and others | 03:38 |
Riddell | mhb: send me a patch to ktip if you want and I'll commit it in KDE's SVN | 03:39 |
Riddell | ryanakca: please do tidy up KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems if you havn't already | 03:40 |
ryanakca | Riddell: already done | 03:40 |
mhb | Riddell: what is the fastest way to rebuild kdelibs? dpkg-buildpackage every time? | 03:40 |
Riddell | mhb: debuild (== dpkg-buildpackage with a few extra checks) and debuild -nc after the first time which doesn't run make clean | 03:42 |
fdoving | mhb: i can only second your suggestion to include 'kdict' on the cd, i started it yesterday when talking to you about it, and i still have it running, I use it too :) | 03:45 |
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ryanakca | nixternal: kubuntu/desktopguide/ ? | 04:00 |
ryanakca | nixternal: and how would I export it? (I've never had to use svn before) | 04:00 |
ryanakca | nevermind the last question :) | 04:03 |
mhb | Riddell: the systemsettings bug is a tough one | 04:04 |
Riddell | certainly is | 04:04 |
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mhb | Riddell: the only key.value() if (key.data() == "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain") it prints is "desktop_kdelibs" ... I can't find that line anywhere | 04:06 |
Riddell | mhb: I'm not sure what you're doing | 04:09 |
mhb | Riddell: sorry ... if (QString(key.data()) == "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain") { and then I print out key.data() an val.data() through qDebug() | 04:11 |
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Riddell | mhb: what program are you running to test it? | 04:11 |
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mhb | Riddell: none ... it's probably not the best way but I just recompiled the code with some qDebug() lines added and then watch what systemsettings say | 04:13 |
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Riddell | mhb: well systemsettings is special because it uses kbuildsycoca | 04:17 |
Riddell | you could try running kbuildsycoca and see what happens | 04:17 |
mhb | Riddell: so what program does open the .directory files? | 04:21 |
mhb | Riddell: both strace and my primitive qDebug() lines indicate that it's not systemsettings itself | 04:21 |
mhb | Riddell: is it kbuildsysoca? | 04:21 |
Riddell | mhb: they're cached by kbuildsycoca and system settings just reads the cache | 04:22 |
mhb | Riddell: thanks, strace confirms that ... but the code in kconfigbacked.cpp applies for kbuildsycoca too, right? | 04:26 |
mhb | Riddell: or not? | 04:26 |
Riddell | it /should/ do, but it may not | 04:26 |
mhb | Riddell: it looks like it doesn't for some files | 04:27 |
mhb | Riddell: which may be the trouble | 04:28 |
mhb | Riddell: any idea why it shows so many "desktop_kdelibs" ? http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/215260 | 04:31 |
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Riddell | mhb: try adding the name of the .desktop file it's reading to the debug output | 04:32 |
mhb | ok | 04:32 |
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Riddell | mhb: by the way it's faster just to run make && sudo make install in obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/kdecore | 04:35 |
mhb | Riddell: thanks | 04:39 |
fdoving | hmm.. what package introduces /.hidden ? | 04:44 |
fdoving | the .hidden file in / | 04:44 |
Riddell | kubuntu-default-settings | 04:45 |
fdoving | so non-kde-ubuntu doesn't have it? | 04:46 |
fdoving | it's not very compatible with using firefox. in firefox, when you select what application you want to use to open a certain filetype, you'll have to browse to find the binary. With /usr hidden users get stuck and give up. | 04:48 |
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abattoir | Riddell: any idea when the next set of daily cds would be built? | 04:50 |
Riddell | abattoir: tomorrow I'd guess | 04:51 |
abattoir | Riddell: ok, thanks | 04:51 |
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mhb | Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/215317 | 05:26 |
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mhb | fdoving: my Firefox simply ignores the .hidden file and displays them all :o) | 05:28 |
mhb | fdoving: can't tell why, though | 05:28 |
imbrandon_ | probab le becouse thats a feature of gnome and kde , ff uses pure gtk iirc | 05:29 |
imbrandon_ | it just LOOKS like a gnome dialog | 05:29 |
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mhb | Riddell: I should probably call it with "--no-incremental" | 05:31 |
mhb | Riddell: when I do it enters the gettextDomain for the problematic files | 05:32 |
fdoving | mhb: my firefox displays everything too. but on a clean edgy install the directories are hidden. | 05:43 |
fdoving | don't know where firefox gets its show/hide hidden files settings from. | 05:44 |
marseillai | fdoving: you are talking about directories in / | 05:48 |
marseillai | ? | 05:48 |
fdoving | mhb: just found out you can rightclick and select 'show hidden files' in the firefox file dialog. | 05:48 |
fdoving | marseillai: yes. | 05:48 |
marseillai | fdoving: takes a look at /.hidden and it's not firefox but every applications! :) | 05:49 |
fdoving | marseillai: i know this. but there should be a option to 'show hidden files' easily. and there is. but it's just not very clear, nor easy to find (for me atleast). | 05:50 |
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mhb | Riddell: I can't do it by myself :o) but I really really hope you'll fix it somehow ... imagine what would reviewers say about Kubuntu when instead of "Keyboard & Mouse" there was "Users & Groups" | 07:26 |
mhb | Riddell: and that's what'll happen to us even though we can't do anything as translators | 07:27 |
Riddell | mhb: I /think/ I've got it | 07:28 |
Riddell | it'll take a wee while to tidy it up and compile it then I'll need you to test | 07:28 |
Riddell | mhb: actually, could you try it as it is with http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kconfigbackend.cpp | 07:29 |
mhb | right away | 07:29 |
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mhb | some weird error | 07:33 |
Riddell | what's that? | 07:33 |
mhb | Riddell: a load of warnings and then make[4] : *** [libkdecore_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1 | 07:34 |
Riddell | mhb: during compile? | 07:35 |
mhb | Riddell: yes | 07:35 |
Riddell | mhb: try again with new http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kconfigbackend.cpp | 07:35 |
nixternal | everything ok in the world of kubuntu this fine sunday? | 07:37 |
Riddell | it will be if mhb says I've fixed this problem | 07:38 |
mhb | Riddell: it continues compiling now | 07:39 |
Riddell | a good sign | 07:40 |
mhb | Riddell: is there already a Riddell fan club? If so I might consider to join later today | 07:40 |
Riddell | wait until you've tested if this works yet | 07:40 |
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nixternal | oh lord, the ubuntu fan clab created Ubuntu thongs, I sure hope that I don't see Riddell thongs ;) | 07:47 |
abattoir | lol | 07:47 |
mhb | nixternal: great idea | 07:47 |
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nixternal | ;) | 07:48 |
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nixternal | i made some killer chili last night, literally | 07:48 |
Tm_T | Who died? | 07:49 |
abattoir | Scott Tenorman ;) | 07:49 |
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nixternal | i did | 07:50 |
marsport | hi! | 07:50 |
Riddell | mhb: how's it going? | 07:50 |
marsport | Riddell: i'm trying to upgrade my dapper to edgy and it wants remove kubuntu-desktop don't you want to see what says dist-upgrade? | 07:51 |
Riddell | hi marsport | 07:51 |
Riddell | marsport: it's a known problem, nothing we can do about it alas | 07:51 |
mhb | Riddell: finishing install any minute now | 07:51 |
nixternal | i go ahead and remove it, and once the install is complete, i just reinstall it..only way to make it happy right now | 07:51 |
nixternal | i did the same with the "apt-get autoremove" | 07:51 |
marsport | Riddell: oki so i wait to upgrade or i do it? then i install kubuntu-desktop ? | 07:52 |
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abattoir | nixternal: F1 by any chance? or IRL ? | 07:52 |
nixternal | nascar ;) | 07:52 |
nixternal | i watched f1 earlier | 07:52 |
nixternal | irl is done for the season | 07:53 |
abattoir | heh, just had a discussion about that now :P, enjoy the race | 07:53 |
abattoir | oh | 07:53 |
marsport | Riddell: should i upgrade or should i wait for a fix? | 07:53 |
mhb | :O(( | 07:54 |
mhb | Riddell: not yet | 07:55 |
Riddell | mhb: upgrade | 07:55 |
Riddell | mhb: what happened? | 07:55 |
mhb | Riddell: nothing ... make install went ok, rebuilt --no-incremental ksycoca and then run systemsettings ... no effect | 07:55 |
Riddell | mhb: what's your problem string again? | 07:56 |
Riddell | an example you know is wrong but should work | 07:56 |
Riddell | Name=Keyboard & Mouse] | 07:57 |
Riddell | Name[cs] =Uivatel a skupiny | 07:57 |
Riddell | ? | 07:57 |
mhb | yes | 07:57 |
mhb | that's the most painful one | 07:57 |
Riddell | what does this give you? | 07:58 |
Riddell | strings /usr/share/locale-langpack/cs/LC_MESSAGES/desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo | grep Keyboard | 07:58 |
mhb | (in the .mo file is Name=Klvesnice & my) | 07:59 |
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mhb | Name=Keyboard & Mouse | 07:59 |
mhb | (the translated string in the .mo file is Name=Klvesnice & my) | 08:00 |
Riddell | if you do.. | 08:00 |
Riddell | touch /usr/share/locale-langpack/cs/LC_MESSAGES/desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo | 08:00 |
Riddell | kbuildsycoca 2>&1 | less | 08:00 |
Riddell | what does it give as debug output for desktop_kde-systemsettings? | 08:00 |
mhb | should I only touch it? | 08:01 |
Riddell | sorry | 08:02 |
Riddell | touch /usr/share/desktop-directories/kde-settings-keyboardmouse.directory | 08:02 |
Riddell | kbuildsycoca 2>&1 | less | 08:02 |
mhb | I'll pastebin it, one moment | 08:04 |
mhb | Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/215555 should be it | 08:05 |
Riddell | mhb: try adding this to the kdecore directory | 08:07 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/klocale.cpp | 08:07 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/klocale.h | 08:07 |
marseillai | Riddell: i've not understood. This bug can not be solve so i can upgrade now? or it'll be solve before release and i should wait? | 08:08 |
Riddell | marseillai: it won't be resolved, you should do dist-upgrade then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 08:09 |
marseillai | oki thanks riddell | 08:10 |
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Riddell | mhb: progress? | 08:26 |
mhb | Riddell: make installing | 08:28 |
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mhb | sorry .o) can't speed it up | 08:31 |
mhb | Riddell: rebuilding sycoca | 08:40 |
mhb | Y A Y! | 08:41 |
Riddell | :) | 08:41 |
mhb | Riddell: Keyboard& Mouse translated correctly | 08:42 |
mhb | Riddell: User Management and Monitor & Display keep untranslated but that's nothing important | 08:43 |
mhb | Riddell: other stuff is OK | 08:43 |
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Riddell | why are they untranslated? | 08:45 |
mhb | Riddell: not sure ... I'll check | 08:45 |
mhb | Riddell: maybe they aren't translated in the .mo file, I dunno | 08:46 |
Riddell | hmm, no desktop_guidance in the langpacks | 08:48 |
mhb | desktop-guidancce present, though | 08:49 |
mhb | don't tell me it's a typo :o)) | 08:49 |
Riddell | hmmm | 08:50 |
mhb | translated in desktop-guidance | 08:50 |
Riddell | yes, wonder how that happened | 08:50 |
Riddell | oh well, not much can be done about it now | 08:50 |
mhb | Riddell: can't we fix this in the next langpack release? | 08:50 |
Riddell | it needs fixed in the kde-guidance package | 08:51 |
mhb | Riddell: too late for that? | 08:52 |
Riddell | dunno, I might upload and see if it's accepted | 08:52 |
Riddell | mhb: actually could you report a bug for that | 08:52 |
mhb | Riddell: sure | 08:53 |
mhb | Riddell: remember the amarok bug from yesterday? | 08:53 |
Riddell | which? | 08:53 |
mhb | Riddell: it gets more complicated than I originally thought | 08:53 |
mhb | Riddell: bug 67457 | 08:54 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 67457 in amarok "amaroK translations in Rosetta - plural forms are broken" [Undecided,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67457 | 08:54 |
mhb | Riddell: actually it's most probably a duplicate of the bug 46982 as Caroline Ford suggested | 08:55 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 46982 in rosetta "Rosetta does not accept correct KDE plural forms when there are more than 2" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 | 08:55 |
mhb | Riddell: which means Rosetta refuses to accept a .po definition of the plural form | 08:55 |
mhb | Riddell: in just this single package, which is so strange | 08:56 |
mhb | Riddell: bug 67614 | 09:03 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 67614 in kde-guidance "kde-guidance desktop .mo file can not be loaded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67614 | 09:03 |
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orkid__ | the daily d-i hd-media image for i386 doesn't find the RC i386 desktop iso in its media scan. How come? | 09:42 |
Riddell | hd-media? | 09:44 |
orkid__ | debian installer image for hd-media (you get an iso, boot the image, scand the HD, and it finds the iso and installs from there) | 09:44 |
Riddell | never heard of it | 09:47 |
Riddell | not sure why it would be looking for the desktop iso though | 09:47 |
orkid__ | i've done debian net installs this way, maybe i need a different boot image. | 09:49 |
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mhb | Riddell: I'm going to sleep now ... thanks for everything | 09:58 |
Riddell | mhb: thanks for testing | 09:59 |
mhb | Riddell: that was really nothing | 09:59 |
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mhb | Riddell: poke me anytime you need anything done that I am able to do | 10:03 |
Riddell | well solid ISO testing from tomorrow until thursday | 10:03 |
mhb | Riddell: OK, will do at least until I hit the bandwidth limit. | 10:05 |
Riddell | rsync is your friend | 10:06 |
mhb | Riddell: sure | 10:07 |
mhb | good night all and thank you for the great work! | 10:08 |
Lure | Riddell: my first discussion proposal: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/feisty-networking-kubuntu | 10:19 |
Riddell | cool | 10:23 |
mhb | Lure: you might know it ... has some tray network monitor a la knemo been discussed earlier? | 10:24 |
Lure | mhb: yes, knemo was, but was rejected at that tim e(dapper) due to high load - this is now fixed though | 10:27 |
Lure | mhb: but there is duplication with knetworkmanager for wireless | 10:28 |
mhb | Lure: yes, I agree | 10:28 |
mhb | Lure: there are other places where it could be modified to fit more into Kubuntu | 10:29 |
Riddell | ok, kdelibs, guidance and katapult all uploaded | 10:29 |
Riddell | and with those in I think I'm all happy with Edgy | 10:29 |
Lure | Riddell: yep, lot's of pressure for you in last days... - but Edgy with not be edgy at all (at least for Kubuntu) | 10:31 |
mhb | Lure: if you could add this application/feature to the spec and discuss it there I'd be glad | 10:32 |
Lure | mhb: I will probably start a Wiki page so that we can capture feedback from all interested parties easier | 10:32 |
mhb | Lure: great idea | 10:33 |
Riddell | Lure: are you able to rename the spec to kubuntu-feisty-networking? nice to have it namespaced like that | 10:33 |
Lure | Riddell: will try | 10:34 |
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Lure | Riddell: done: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-feisty-networking | 10:34 |
fdoving | Riddell: what do you use to edit the kdebase patches? 'cdbs-edit-patch patchname' always wants to add a .patch extension. | 10:39 |
fdoving | dpatch-edit-patch wants .dpatch extension. | 10:40 |
mhb | Has Kubuntu DVD improving been discussed before? | 10:47 |
Lure | fdoving: I use cdbs, but I rename to .diff (which is mostly used in kde) | 10:50 |
Lure | mhb: in what direction? | 10:51 |
fdoving | Lure: so, when you need to edit an existing patch, you rename to '.patch' again, and use cdbs-edit-patch patchname ? | 10:51 |
Lure | fdoving: yes | 10:51 |
fdoving | i'll make a cdbs-edit-diff copy of cdbs-edit-patch and s/patch/diff/g in it. | 10:51 |
Lure | fdoving: good idea - maybe we should add it to cdbs - I will do my script | 10:52 |
Lure | for now | 10:52 |
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fdoving | Lure: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/cdbs-edit-diff if you want it. | 10:56 |
Lure | fdoving: thanks | 10:56 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: You around by chance ? | 10:59 |
mhb | Lure: well, now that I think of it, it'd be probably quite hard ... well making DVDs more than just Desktop CD + extra packages ... at least modifying the installer so that you can choose some extra packages from the DVD like localisation, developer tools&header files and so on | 11:01 |
jjesse | hello :) | 11:02 |
Lure | mhb: right, partiuclarly with live cd | 11:05 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: When you see this, will you try an update with the src repos of SoS and see if the error(s) are fixed for you now please | 11:07 |
mhb | Lure: it would still be worth it, though ... sooner or later we'll experience the final shift from cds->dvds | 11:07 |
ryanakca | umm... is this normal? "/etc/inittab: No such file or directory" I have a feeling that's why my VT's don't show up/why I can't access them or change back and forth between X sessions, or between X sessions and VT... | 11:13 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: Can you change between VT's while outside of X ? | 11:15 |
ryanakca | Hawkwind: I can't even get out of X... | 11:15 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: I've had this problem in the past and the fix was that in the xorg.conf file the wrong keyboard layout was listed. Instead of en_US it had en_GB or something similar | 11:15 |
ryanakca | ctrl-alt-backspace simply returns me to kdm... | 11:15 |
ryanakca | kk | 11:16 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: You don't have an /etc/inittab at all ? | 11:16 |
ryanakca | and where's my inittab file? | 11:16 |
Lure | mhb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyNetworking - please contribute additonal ideas | 11:16 |
ryanakca | nope :( | 11:16 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/180 | 11:16 |
fdoving | ryanakca: upstart doesn't need inittab. :) | 11:17 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: That's mine, and you're right, it definitely belongs in /etc | 11:17 |
Hawkwind | Ohhhhhh | 11:17 |
ryanakca | no? | 11:17 |
ryanakca | ah :) | 11:17 |
gnomefreak | Hawkwind: yeah im here now | 11:17 |
Hawkwind | fdoving: What does it use instead ? Seeings how inittab is where you change your runlevel in most distros | 11:18 |
fdoving | ryanakca: my clean install of edgy does not have /etc/inittab | 11:18 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: Try an update for me please and see if the src stuff is fixed | 11:18 |
fdoving | Hawkwind: runlevels are so 70s :) | 11:18 |
gnomefreak | ok let me re enable it | 11:18 |
Hawkwind | fdoving: Hah. I hate a GUI login, I have to boot to CLI or I go insane :) | 11:18 |
fdoving | Hawkwind: 'cd /etc/even.d;ls' play :) | 11:18 |
fdoving | it's in /etc/even.d/rc-default more precisely. | 11:19 |
fdoving | it honours /etc/inittab if it's there.. but it doesn't fail if it's not. | 11:19 |
gnomefreak | ok its running ill elt you know | 11:19 |
fdoving | Hawkwind: also, you should not change runlevel to disable graphical login. you should remove the kdm links from the init.d dirs. 'update-rc.d -f kdm remove' to get it back, 'update-rc.d kdm defaults' | 11:20 |
fdoving | s/init.d/rc?.d/ | 11:21 |
Hawkwind | fdoving: I actually learned that the other day when you told bLaZeD about it as I didn't know any differently coming from Mandriva :) | 11:21 |
marseillai | Riddell: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesn't work problem with X dependance. And acpi and acpid configuration failed | 11:22 |
fdoving | marseillai: i have a experimental upgrade script you can try. i'm currently testing in chroots. | 11:23 |
gnomefreak | Hawkwind: its good ty | 11:24 |
fdoving | you'll have to wait till this test i'm currently doing is finished. don't want to break your kubuntu. | 11:24 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: Awesome. Many thanks for testing. I've been fighting it for over an hour | 11:24 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: Come to find out, my script was missing a simple . on one line :( | 11:24 |
gnomefreak | omg | 11:24 |
gnomefreak | Hawkwind: use a texteditor with a debugger? | 11:25 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: Hah yeah. Frustrating once you find out it was something so darn simple | 11:25 |
ryanakca | Hawkwind: where's the keyboard map for console set again? /etc/? | 11:25 |
gnomefreak | not that they work all the great at times but maybe help some for little things | 11:26 |
fdoving | marseillai: what is the error you get? can you pastebin it? | 11:26 |
fdoving | ryanakca: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-data' iirc. | 11:26 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: Should be in your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:26 |
gnomefreak | ha i fixed minefield :) | 11:26 |
ryanakca | Hawkwind: yes, but doesn't it need to be the same for console and xorg? or were you talking about something else? | 11:26 |
Hawkwind | ryanakca: Though that might not be the problem you're having. I always had this problem in Mandriva | 11:26 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: What are you running minefield on ? | 11:27 |
fdoving | ryanakca: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-setup' actually. | 11:27 |
gnomefreak | edgy ;) | 11:27 |
gnomefreak | Hawkwind: when i go unstable i make the best of it | 11:27 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: Hah, I'd say so | 11:28 |
Hawkwind | I'm running minefield on my Windows laptop. It runs quite well | 11:28 |
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ryanakca | fdoving: is a bunch of output simmilar to "WARNING: Undefined kernel key code for 236" normal? | 11:31 |
fdoving | ryanakca: i haven't experienced that, no. | 11:32 |
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fdoving | marseillai: still having issues upgrading? | 11:40 |
marseillai | fdoving: i've now my X back | 11:40 |
marseillai | and finish upgrading | 11:40 |
fdoving | ok :) | 11:40 |
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marseillai | but kubuntu-desktop, acpi and acpid still don't want to configure fdoving | 11:40 |
fdoving | marseillai: do you have error messages? can you pastebin them? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ? | 11:41 |
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Lure | another spec for uds-mtv: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-feisty-laptop | 11:43 |
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marsport | fdoving: http://pastebin.ca/215922 | 11:44 |
marsport | Riddell: upgrading causes a problem with acpid so i can't configure kubuntu-desktop | 11:46 |
Riddell | apt-get -f install | 11:47 |
Riddell | ? | 11:47 |
fdoving | marsport: can you try to run '/var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.postinst' what does it say? | 11:47 |
marsport | Riddell: nothing | 11:48 |
fdoving | marsport: nevermind, don't need to do that. it's the init script that fails. somehow. | 11:48 |
marsport | fdoving: i gave you in pv the result of /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.postinst | 11:49 |
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fdoving | marsport: 'apt-get --purge remove acpid;apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' | 11:50 |
marsport | works fine fdoving | 11:51 |
marsport | fdoving: thanks a lot | 11:51 |
fdoving | no problem :) | 11:51 |
marsport | fdoving: to be able to finish my upgrade i've have to install xorg, and every python packages | 11:52 |
fdoving | marsport: xserver-xorg ? | 11:52 |
fdoving | i'm aware of the python packages. | 11:52 |
fdoving | and upgrading from dapper to edgy is not a trival task. | 11:52 |
fdoving | I'm working on a script to do it (hopefully) less painfull. | 11:53 |
marsport | fdoving: xserver-xorg and xorg | 11:53 |
fdoving | ok, thanks. | 11:53 |
marsport | fdoving: it seems that the problem was with the names of driver wich changes | 11:54 |
fdoving | I have focused on getting kubuntu-desktop installing cleanly so far. | 11:54 |
marsport | so now! time to sleep! have 5 hours to sleep | 11:54 |
fdoving | yeah.. me too.. soon. :) | 11:54 |
gnomefreak | does anyone know since kdevelop3-data was pulled from repos that kdevelop-data will work with kdevelop3? | 12:03 |
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