[08:53] <Hobbsee> anyone around here today?  i know it's a sunday
[08:54] <crimsun> (sort of)
[08:55] <Hobbsee> i've found out a few regressions from dapper, with wifi cards not being detected/not working in edgy.  i've got no idea if it's too late to fix bits of this
[08:55] <tfheen> it's too late.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> okay
[08:57] <tfheen> sorry, but I just can't take the risk of new kernel at this point.
[08:57] <tfheen> maybe edgy-updates.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> tfheen: yeah, fair enough.  that would be a candidate for edgy updates?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> tfheen: it was more of a question of "do you guys care about fixing it at all, for edgy"
[08:58] <Hobbsee> or just say "wait till edgy+1"?
[08:58] <tfheen> depends on what cards it is, I guess, but -updates is not my domain.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> tfheen: fair enough.  an atheros card, and a few others.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> tfheen: who's the contact for -updates?
[08:59] <tfheen> atheros is madwifi-ng, isn't it?
[09:00] <infinity> Indeed.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> tfheen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/+bug/66176  i believe it's in l-r-m, it's certainly madwifi
[09:03] <tfheen> puppies are wonderful small creatures.
[09:04] <tfheen> hmm, make sure that guy isn't using network-manager
[09:04] <infinity> Hobbsee: That thread is bordering on useless, mind you. :/
[09:04] <Hobbsee> infinity: it was partly a test in "what woudl they do, being asked for info"
[09:04] <infinity> Hobbsee: Like the "my ipw2200 doesn't work" guy.  If the ipw2200 driver was broken, we'd definitely know.  I suspect a large number of these people are seeing non-kernel bugs, or have configuration issues.
[09:04] <Hobbsee> infinity: but yeah, i know
[09:05] <Hobbsee> true that
[09:05] <Hobbsee> like i say, it was a question of "if the developers want to know about this, then what sort of stuff will they give back?  useful, or not?"
[09:06] <Hobbsee> which the answer is mostly no, of course
[09:06] <tfheen> if ipw2200 was broken, half the development team would be unable to work and we'd all be screaming at the top of our lungs. :-)
[09:06] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:06] <Hobbsee> yeah, i thougth so
[09:06] <infinity> Exactly. :)
[09:06] <infinity> Though the same goes for madwifi, really.
[09:07] <Hobbsee> yeah, well
[09:07] <infinity> And, while it's perpetually "half broken for a few bits of hardware", it can't possibly be as bad as it's made out.
[09:07] <Hobbsee> true that.  works fine here.  mind you, my marvell card...
[09:07] <infinity> Yeah, that's a different story.
[09:08] <Hobbsee> apparently it has drivers distributed, but arent activated by default.  *shrugs*
[11:34] <ivoks> zul: shouldn't xen depend on bridge-utils?