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Buzzygirlhello12:01
YoGTPGO: btw, both of the also give me: "umount: /dev/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)"12:01
dcordeswhere can i set which volume is controled by the hotkeys of my keyboard?12:01
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AsheDhas anybody here used the id3v2 command?12:01
elfrangerno12:01
YoGno12:01
elfrangernoone has12:01
conreytseb--: it's in /etc/network/interfaces12:01
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Buzzygirlanyone here using Edgy now?12:02
LjL!edgy > buzzygirl12:02
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johnny__in this statement "in order to install ndiswrapper you need a copy the windows drivers for your Wireless ethernet device" do i need to download the latest driver for my wireless card or ar there actually "windows drivers" that i need???12:02
dbmerkLjL: Can you help answer an install question?12:02
dcordesBuzzygirl: i think there are many people here who do. but if you want to discuss edgy related things better go to #ubuntu+112:02
LjL!ask12:02
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:02
seb--conreyt: thanks12:03
dbmerki did already12:03
dbmerkis there a way to force bad block checking when formatting a hard drive? My install is failing when copying files at the same point (70%) no matter the underlying file system (reiserfs or ext3)12:03
YoGTPGO: are you still here?12:03
conreytseb--: no problem :)12:03
TGPOYoG: here now12:03
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johnny__anyone plz?12:03
YoGTPGO: I get "umount: /dev/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)"12:03
BuzzygirlI don't use Edgy yet, just wondering if many Ubuntu users do12:03
{_-IcE-_}talisein: tnx man, managed to solve problem now :)12:04
BuzzygirlI like Dapper for now12:04
LjLdbmerk: "fsck -t ext3 -c" i guess12:04
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LjLdbmerk: err, that is "mkfs" not "fsck" ;)12:04
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TGPOjohnny__ before playing with ndiswrapper read the install guides on the wiki, repeatedly12:04
dbmerkljl: during the install? ok, how do i get to a shell?12:04
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johnny__ic12:04
LjLdbmerk: ctrl+alt+f212:05
dbmerkk, thankx12:05
gravesoni have a firefox extension that i cannot uninstall (unnstall button greyed out) - anyone has any ideason how i can do this12:05
YoGTPGO: I get "umount: /dev/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)"12:05
talisein{_-IcE-_}: great12:05
LjLdbmerk: what the mkfs.ext3 manpage says about the "-c" option is "Check the device for bad blocks before creating the file system.  If this option is specified twice, then a slower, read-write test is used instead of a fast read-only test"12:05
RMorris84Seveas: when im trying to put music on this thing now it says "there isnt enough space" but its 128mb and im just trying to put one mp3 on it12:05
dcordesBuzzygirl: i tried it. i noticed some small approvements in the apps. but there were a lot of problems like i couldn't install my VGA12:05
dcordesso i switched back to dapper12:05
{_-IcE-_}talisein: can you maybe suggest me a decent yet easy to setup webmail pls ?12:05
SeveasRMorris84, did you format it after messing around with cfdisk?12:05
RMorris84yes12:06
RMorris84well i dunno12:06
LjLdbmerk: (or, for that matter, you could just launch a Gnome terminal, that's as good as a console)12:06
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SeveasRMorris84, then make sure you have ;)12:06
RMorris84can i do that with cfdisk?12:06
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YoGTPGO: actually, I don't even have /dev/sda1 or 2...12:07
axa-axaHi, does anyone know when should the next version of Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) be released?12:07
SeveasRMorris84, no12:07
LjL!schedule > axa-axa12:07
axa-axa!schedule12:07
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:07
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RMorris84Seveas: what do i need to use? Disks in admin?12:07
SeveasRMorris84, or the mkfs command12:08
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RMorris84Seveas: when i went into disks i see it there, and it says .83 mb free lol, but the option for format is greyed out...12:08
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yacoobis there a way to quickly check the contents of _upcoming_ release?12:09
blukhi there; i just copied a whole ubuntu partition from one HD to another (cp -a source_part dest_part). It works fine, except i can't see anymore the "graphical init" at bootup or shutdown; it's not critical, but i'd like to understand why12:09
TGPOYoG: your past my ability then, sorry12:09
dcordesSeveas: are you the guy with the repository?12:09
LjLyacoob: you mean check what packages are in Edgy?12:09
gravesoni have a firefox extension that i cannot uninstall (unnstall button greyed out) - anyone has any ideason how i can do this12:09
YournameSeveas?12:09
YoGTPGO: :-( thanx...12:09
yacoobLjL, yup.12:09
LjLyacoob: packages.ubuntu.com12:09
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YournameHow can I use apt-get to install a package from somewhere else?12:09
YournameBecause obviously, network mananger .6.2 is not helping me connect to WPA.12:10
yacoobLjL, thanks.12:10
YoGso i'm back to the begining.... can someone help me with usb wlan?12:10
YournameMy best best is .06.412:10
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LjLYourname: you don't. you use dpkg for that. and perhaps you *shouldn't*, since packages that were not intended for ubuntu might break your system12:10
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yacoobAnother thing I want to ask; when I leave sources.list as they are after installation, no new version will arrive, only security updates, right?12:10
YournameYoG: www.linuxant.org12:10
lealrealplayer 10 without sound...12:10
lealany tips?12:10
YournameLjL: Ok, so how else can I make this same 6.2 work with WPA2?12:10
yacoobWhat about universum and multiversum, are those "frozen" too for specific release, or are they a moving target?12:10
Yourname(My system has wpa_supplicant)12:10
blukYourname, theres a soft named "alien" which converts packages maybe you can get use of this12:11
LjLYourname: "dpkg -i <filename>" installs a package that you have downloaded, anyway. it does *not* install the required dependencies, though. you may install them manually, or use the "gdebi" package, which can do that automatically12:11
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YoGYourname: it's not a problem with setting up one...12:11
LjLYourname: as i told you, i have neither network-manager nor gnome nor wifi nor a clue. i'm just warning that third-party packages might break.12:11
YournameLjL: I downloaded the latest nm, and converted it to .deb using alien, and it didn't install properly.12:11
Em3raldLjL:  Unfortunately, I don't have the special "adapter" required for that.  I think I am going to have to find an audio out port from another machine (I have plenty of old hardware laying around) and wire it to the internal audio outputs.12:12
LjLthat doesn't surprise me in the least12:12
YoGcan someone help me with usb wlan locking up after a while?12:12
Willdoes anyone know where i can get the drivers for CS4236 sound card?12:12
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blukYoG, is the lock temporary or not?12:12
TGPOYoG; have you tried ifup/ifdown?12:12
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LjLEm3rald: couldn't you just buy one of those (cheap) "doubler" adapters?12:13
YoGbluk: until i remove and reinsert the dongle...12:13
Liuitihi hi12:13
YoGTPGO: doesn't work12:13
YournameIf someone can tell me, how to connect to WPA using nm 6.2... that's enough, lol12:13
lealso, realplayer 10 does not work on ubuntu?12:13
LjLEm3rald: you know, the ones that let two people use two headphones on the same walkman, and such things12:13
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sproingiea splitter12:14
YoGbluk, TPGO: the only thing that was remotely close to work is "rmmod uhci_hcd" followed by "insmod uhci_hcd"12:14
LjLrightie12:14
test_i am trying to save the grub menu.lst but i dont have write access. how do i save it as root?12:14
Em3raldYa, I suppose I could ... just thought there was a quick fix.12:14
YoGTPGO: or removing and inserting the dongle12:14
Liuitisomeone talk to me12:14
LjLLiuiti: hi.12:14
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Em3raldI live in a small town and such an adapter may not be readily available.12:14
tsolerhi to all12:14
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tsoleris anyone can help?12:14
Liuitihi where you from?12:14
YoGtsoler, what's the problem?12:15
Willdoes anyone know where i can get the drivers for CS4236 sound card?12:15
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tsolertried to customize my desktop12:15
lealsomebody can tell me if realplayer 10 works on ubuntu or not?12:15
lealhello!12:15
blukYoG, not sure it will help; regularily, wlan devices scan available networks and in some cases (i've seen this problem happens on winxp but it might be more general) this can cause troubles (but i never heard about indefinite lock); you might try to disable autoscan, and see if it behaves differently12:15
YournameLjL: Ok, I installed the .deb file using gdebi. Now, how do I access it? Because I don';t see the applet, and so when I type 'nm' it says nm: 'a.out": No such file.12:15
tsolernow when i minimize firefox is gone12:15
K1765Can anyone tell me why it says "erroring reading boot cd"12:15
Em3raldtsoler:  can you alt-tab to it?12:15
TGPOleal: not every question has a known answer, try it and let us know12:16
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Em3raldleal:  Not sure off hand ....12:16
LjLYourname, i don't know. i never used network manager.12:16
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LiuitiHow i can modified the logon on my top pannel?12:16
tsoleryap!!!12:16
Em3raldleal:  did you use Automatix to install real?12:16
Yournamesigh12:16
YoGtsoler, no idea12:16
LjL!automatix12:16
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!12:16
YoGbluk: who do i do that?12:16
tsoleralt tab works fine12:16
lealEm3rald: no, canonical repository.12:16
Em3raldtsoler:  is it possible that your resolution is gibbled so that your bottom bar is missing?12:16
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LiuitiHow i can modified the logon on my top pannel?12:16
blukYoG, no idea you will have to figure it out by yourself12:17
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heanol_sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid gein mode master12:17
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Em3raldleal:  realplayer can be a pain in Ubuntu because they don't really work very hard on making a working up-to-date version of it for the Linux world.  However, you might try searching for info on the ubuntuforums.org website forum.12:17
tsoleri didnt change resolution12:17
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heanol_should that be enough to make my computer act as an access point?12:17
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tsolerbut .. i removed the down panel12:17
blukbut if the delay between two scans seems the same delay that makes wlan locked, they are chances it is related12:17
snottlebockethey guys12:18
dbmerkljl: one more question - i have a terminal up as the ubuntu user.. try to su to root and need a password, what is the default password for root?12:18
Em3raldtsoler:  I believe you can add it back by right-clicking on the top one and adding the panel.12:18
lealEm3rald: ok, thanks.12:18
Em3raldleal good luck :D12:18
TGPOdbmerk, your normal password12:18
snottlebocketfirst time on ubuntu using the live cd ^^12:18
YoGbluk: I didn't know about this option at all, but i do have the same problem on windoze.. so maybe thats the solution12:18
dbmerkmy user password?12:18
test_how do i move a file?12:18
TGPOdbmerk, yes12:18
dbmerkthx12:18
sloptest_, mv12:18
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blukYoG, wish you luck12:19
test_k12:19
tsolerits not working emerald12:19
YoGbluk, thanx :-)12:19
Em3raldtsoler:  mmm ... hang on dude :D12:19
tsolerive i added a panel on the bottom12:19
TGPOicky, 20 more meg of dev files to d/l12:19
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profoX`Seveas: is falcon no available for edgy somewhere?12:19
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LiuitiHow i can modified the logon on my top pannel?12:20
profoX`s/no/not12:20
Gumbylo all.  I am trying to figure out why samba isnt starting at boot time.  I have checked sysv-rc-conf and it shows it as starting in runlevels 2 through 5.  Am I missing something as to why it isnt starting at boot time?12:20
tsoleris there a reset button?12:20
Em3raldtsoler:  Okay, now you can "reconstruct" the bar I believe by "add to panel" and adding the appropriate things from the menu there.12:20
LjL!root > Em3rald12:20
blukwhy did the "graphical form" of init went away from my system after having transferred it between two HDs ?12:20
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TGPOLiuiti: you log in screen?12:20
LjLEm3rald: there is no password. use sudo.12:20
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tsoleryes i can add items but how do i keep firefox ?12:21
Tildelut12:21
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Ropechoborra!edgy12:21
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:21
LjLEm3rald: whoops, i'm sorry. wrong nickname :-)12:21
Ropechoborra!schedule12:21
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:21
Em3raldLjL:  haha ... no problem :D12:21
YoGdoes anyone here knows how to disable wlan autoscan?12:21
Liuitiyes12:21
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LjLdbmerk: use sudo, there is no root password12:21
test_how do i kill job 112:22
tsolerubotu12:22
Em3raldtsoler:  Okay ... not entirely sure actually.  let me fuddle a bout for a second.12:22
tsoler??12:22
test_jobs still shows job 1 after kill 112:22
TGPOLiuiti: go to the screen and on the bottom left there is an options button, you can change lots of things for it there12:22
blukor, more simple, how is the GUI version of init called/invoked ?12:22
Em3raldtsoler:  I am just messing with my own desktop to see if I can figure out whats up.12:22
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LjLtest_: "kill 1" will kill *process* number 1 (i.e. init), and not *job* number 112:22
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tsolerthanks emerald12:23
Em3raldNP dude :D12:23
shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to unzip 7zip?12:23
LjLtest_: i *think* it's "kill %1"12:23
tiredboneshow do I get the whole cd to play instead of just one track? I don't see anything in sound juicer that lets me do that.12:23
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K1765Anyone know what it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin12:23
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SonicChao!7zip12:23
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression12:23
Em3raldtsoler:  Okay, I think the one you want is right-click on the appropriate bar (your new one) and add-to-panel, then ....12:23
snottlebocketdue to the lack of windows fonts on ubuntu a lot of websites are looking really crummy, can i just install fonts to fix that?12:24
test_thanks LjL12:24
Liuitibut i want to modified the logon ubuntu to logon apple12:24
Em3raldtsoler:  ... then go down to Window List and add that to the panel.12:24
K1765Anyone know what it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin12:24
Em3raldtsoler:  This is assuming I understand your predicament lol.12:24
YoGdoes anyone here knows how to disable wlan autoscan?12:24
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tsoleremerald where is that window list?12:25
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K1765Anyone know what it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin12:25
mcphailsnottlebocket: there is a ms fonts package12:25
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shadowhywindark doesn't let me uncompress it any ideas?12:25
tsoleryou mean window selector??12:25
Em3raldShould be right to the left of that.12:25
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tonyyarussoDoes anyone know how to fix this?:  HP Pavilion dv4150us laptop; gets really hot and then the fan finally kicks in (hard), cools it off, and stops, rather than running more frequently or continuously at a lower speed.12:25
Liuitibut i don't understand how i do this12:25
YoGbluk: coming to think about it, the connection holds as long as there is now/little traffic on it, so if you say it should appear periodically, maybe thats not the problem?12:25
snottlebocketdoes ubuntu have a maximum screen resolution of only 1024?12:25
K1765Anyone know why it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin, what could this mean?12:26
blukYoG, good point :-(12:26
TGPOK1765, did you perchance d/l the 64bit version and are trying to boot onto a 32bit comp? tried that once with horrific results12:26
Em3raldsnottlebocket:  no, but you may have to manually edit your xorg.conf file for that.  Its an annoyance, but I believe it may be fixed in the next release .... maybe.12:26
LjLshadowhywind: sudo apt-get install p7zip12:26
conreytsnottlebocket: nope12:26
YoGbluk: dang12:26
K1765Nope, I have the intel x86 version12:26
YoGbluk: I'm getting frustrated...12:26
snottlebocketfair enough, right now i'm just looking around using the live cd to see if ubuntu is for me12:26
shadowhywindthanks, i found the directions, hehe12:26
clearzenCould anyone tell me how to setup automatic backups of my laptop system/config files to my server?12:26
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dcordesclearzen: what kind of server do you have?12:27
Liuitisomebody help me?12:27
Em3raldsnottlebucket:  cool.  When you finally install it, do some searching on the ubuntuforums.org forum for specific instructions on how to do stuff like editing your xorg.conf file.  Super easy12:27
blukYoG, if you have the exact same problem in windows, maybe it's not software-related.. meaning it could be hardware problem. Do you have another wlan device?12:27
clearzenubuntu server12:27
K1765Anyone know why it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin, what could this mean?12:27
ianmacgregor!backup > clearzen12:27
TGPOK1765: well there is always the option of downloading and burning the iso again, if it doesnt like that CD there isnt anything that you can do to change it12:27
snottlebocketi will, thanks em12:27
Em3raldNo problem my friend :D12:27
K1765I've tried 4 different cd's TGPO12:28
snottlebocketright now i'm just running into a lot of stuff that seems to be windows/mac only like my graphics programs and my wacom drivers12:28
YoGbluk: yes, and its doing the same (on windoze, didnt try it on linux)12:28
Em3raldtsoler:  how ya doing?12:28
K1765same thing happens12:28
snottlebocketi heard about Wine but it seems a bit pointless to run ubuntu only to emulate windows most of the time12:28
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TGPOK1765: from the same download?12:28
tsolertrying12:28
Em3raldsnottlebocket:  there are usually workarounds for just about anything.12:28
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K1765Different dl's12:28
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ianmacgregorK1765: Did you use Firefox for all those downloads?12:28
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Em3raldtsoler:  you don't have the "window list" in your Add-To-Panel options?12:29
sethkK1765, could be that either the reader drive, or the burner drive is slightly out of alignment12:29
mcphailsnottlebocket: within a couple of months of using ubuntu, there will be several programs you would miss if you went back to windows :)12:29
K1765Yes, but I checked them with md5sum and they were fine12:29
marijn!w32codecs12:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:29
tsolerone moment please12:29
YoGbluk: it seems that removing the dongle and reinserting it brings the connection back to life... do you think of a way of making ubuntu think i did that?12:29
Em3raldsnottlebocket:  Yeah, but thre are equivalent programs for almost everything, just takes some time to find your favorites.12:29
sethkK1765, that problem isn't caused by a bad image file12:29
TGPOK1765: go look at your bios, check the drive settings (not boot options) see id there is some tweaking you can do in there12:29
tsoleri ve added all window options,12:30
johnny__i download ndsiwrapper to my desktop and i am having a problem with extracting it from terminal with this cmd "tar -zxvf ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz" is ndsiwrapper suppose to be in a certain directory for the terminal to read it?12:30
snottlebocketoh i'm sure there's equivelants for a lot of the basic stuff but i'm doing flash development along with a bunch of windows and mac users, i doubt i could entirely get rid of using macromedia flash'  writing program12:30
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LjLsnottlebocket: i doubt that too12:30
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tsolerwindow list , window selection and workspace switcer12:30
snottlebocketfor example i have no problem with open office instead of word12:30
blukYoG, you told it before: rmmod / insmod12:30
Em3raldUnfortunately Macromedia hasn't been so good for Linux.12:30
sethksnottlebocket, in your case, that's correct, it isn't really practical12:30
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mcphailsnottlebocket: might be worth dual booting12:31
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sethkunfortunate12:31
YoGbluk: that doesn't work always...12:31
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Em3raldtsoler:  Alrighty, so ... what are you missing now ... perhaps I am not fully understanding your problem.12:31
Liuitisomeone help me please?12:31
TGPOjohnny__ you have to be in the same folder. use pwd to find out where you are and then cd to chnge directories12:31
LjLdual boot, or perhaps use a VM, if Wine fails..12:31
tsolerits working emerald12:31
AsheDif I am using rsync to copy a folder on my PC to a online host, and I change a small part of the file on my PC, will rsync re-upload the entire file, or just change the edited part?12:31
blukmaybe set a 5 seconds pause between the two: sleep 512:31
sethkLiuiti, only if you ask a question12:31
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Em3raldLiuiti:  whassup?12:31
johnny__k12:31
Em3raldtsoler:  YAY!12:31
mcphailAsheD: just the edited part12:31
tsolerits not the same as before12:31
AsheDmcphail:: excellent, thanks12:31
Em3raldtsoler:  what's different?12:32
snottlebocketyeah, i'm just wondering about the practicality of using wine or dual booting, basically i'd end up wanting to use ubuntu but spending most of my working time back in windows or emulating windows12:32
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tsolerbut i think i can walk along12:32
LiuitiHow i can modified the logon on my top pannel?12:32
Em3raldtsoler:  excellent, don't be afraid to keep asking ... though I may not be here much longer.12:32
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mcphailAsheD: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/tech_report/ is interesting reading12:32
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tsolerthe difference is that when i minimize a window its not sitting in the panel12:32
LjLsnottlebocket: well, that's up to you -- if *most* of what you use your computer for requires windows, then there is not much point switching.12:32
sethkLiuiti, not sure what you mean.12:32
snottlebocketrandom question but who is unbuntu for really because clearly someone in say the graphics industry would spend too much time switching or emulating to make it an efficient choice12:32
Em3raldsnottlebocket:  Well, I would get into using vmware and instaling windows thru it.12:33
blukbut, YoG, even if this works, it's just a workaround; would be better to find what's the real quirk12:33
Em3raldtsoler:  wierd.12:33
bod_snottlebocket: what do you use windows for?12:33
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sethksnottlebocket, I mostly work on embedded systems, and the last few projects I've done have all been linux12:33
TGPOsethk: he want to change the login screen from gdm appearance to mac appearance12:33
Liuitii want to modified the logon ubuntu to logon apple on thw top pannel12:33
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LjLsnottlebocket, it is for many people. it tries to be for as many as possible. for Flash developers, however, it's probably not optimal.12:33
tsoleri mean that if i remove window list i would not be able to find my windows12:33
snottlebocketi suppose i use windows because it's the most widely used OS here and it let's me use all the common programs in my line of work12:33
johnny__johnny@linux-box:~$ cd /desktop12:33
johnny__bash: cd: /desktop: No such file or directory12:33
sethkLiuiti, it can be done but I'm not familiar enough with the details to tell you how to do it.12:34
ianmacgregorsnottlebocket: I have been using Linux for about 7 years. Currently I use Ubuntu for all the work I do: Grapgics design, web surfing, email, chatting, software design, website design, etc. I haven't touched Windows in about 9 years and I won't go back.12:34
YoGbluk: i'll be happy if i didn't have to go to that computer and removing and inserting the dongle every 10 minutes (though my girl friend is happy that i'm doing some excercize ;-)12:34
bod_snottlebocket: such as12:34
XVampireXjohnny__,  just Desktop12:34
clearzen!backup12:34
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AsheDmcphail:: I think you and I may have different definitions of the word "interesting" :P12:34
LjLjohnny__: case matters in Linux. it's Desktop12:34
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johnny__k12:34
mcphailAsheD: :)12:34
Em3raldtsoler:  Yeah.  But the original bar is just a bar with that embedded in it anyway.  You can move components of a bar around too if that helps.12:34
XVampireXjohnny__, cd Desktop12:34
TGPOjohnny__: cd /home/johnny/Desktop12:34
binfalse1johnny__: cd Desktop    (with a capital D and without the /)12:34
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XVampireXjohnny__, It's case sensitive12:34
tsoleranyway emerald we didnt restore it , but i thing its much better this way12:34
mcphailAsheD: i should get out more...12:34
jbmigelsnottlebocket can you take your troll to ubuntu-offtopic please12:34
johnny__ohh12:34
johnny__ok12:34
Em3raldtsoler:  haha, yay!12:34
AsheDmcphail:: me too12:35
tsolerxaxa12:35
tsolerok12:35
sethksnottlebocket, but we still need windows, for the PCB layout, CAD programs, lot's of things unfortunately.12:35
Em3raldtsoler:  have you gotten into using multiple desktops yet?  ctrl-alt-(left or right arrow)12:35
snottlebocketIan don't you run into trouble making products that are meant to reach the masses while working on a system that is far less widespread, i'm just trying it out for half an hour but allready i ran into java problems, sites rendering badly due to lack of fonts and an outdated flash plugin12:35
tsolerhey guys you are really helpfull here12:35
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Em3raldtsoler:  we're all just users like you ... perhaps you will be helping someone someday too :D12:35
ianmacgregorsnottlebocket: To be honest, I don't care if Windows users can't see the stuff I design. As long as Linux users can use my stuff, then I am happy.12:36
XVampireXsnottlebocket, You're talking about silly problems that don't really exist, don't forget, linux is not windows. So you do things differently on linux.12:36
TGPOsnottlebocket: your running from a liveCD, means the OS is running from a slow as heck CD drive, you were expecting warp speed?12:36
dcordeswhere can i set which volume is controled by the hotkeys of my keyboard?12:36
johnny__ok i have the ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz on my desktop12:36
Em3raldsnottlebocket:  that's partly because a lot of fonts and other stuff are very proprietary, and Ubuntu is all about "legally free" until you add extra repositories and stuff.12:36
johnny__johnny@linux-box:~/Desktop$ tar -zxvf ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz12:36
johnny__tar: ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory12:36
johnny__tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now12:36
tsolerthank you12:36
snottlebocketactually i never complained about the speed TGPO12:36
johnny__tar: Child returned status 212:36
LjLsnottlebocket, yes we do. it's unfortunate, but when products are proprietary, the best we can do is try and create free alternatives -- which is not always fast or easy. anyway, this discussion is getting way too offtopic for here, use #ubuntu-offtopic12:36
johnny__tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors12:36
XVampireXsnottlebocket, Don't forget about Flash 9 beta12:36
Em3raldtsoler:  You are very welcome :D12:36
mcphailsnottlebocket: flash9 is now available. Whilst you are correct that the windows fonts are better than those shipped with ubuntu, the MS fonts are easily installed12:36
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TGPOsnottlebocket: you just did, with the lagging problems from some sites12:37
snottlebocketallright, i'll stop polluting the channel, i think i heard what i needed anyway12:37
jbmigeldont feed the trolls guys... like you can convince him in irc12:37
tsolerdo you think multiple deskttops are usefull?? very first time to use such thing12:37
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Em3raldtsoler:  YES!12:37
TGPOtsoler, after you get used to it, you'll wonder how you ever lived without12:37
mcphailtsoler: emphatically yes12:37
Em3raldtsoler:  it takes time to really get efficient with them though.12:37
johnny__how come i am getting an error?12:37
snottlebocketi didn't need convincing, i needed some information, i think i'll put ubuntu on my laptop and keep the pc for my work that requires windows a bit more, i wasn't being critical in a bad way12:37
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sethktsoler, most people I work with put a multiple desktop feature onto their windows box12:38
XVampireXtsoler, I don't use them12:38
Em3raldtsoler:  it's funny ... any time I am helping a windows friend, I am always trying to switch desktops and use the top bar which doesn't exist in Windows LOL12:38
LjLjohnny__, i doubt that your files is actually called "ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz"12:38
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tsolerdont what to do with them!! seems im not that multi tasking12:38
johnny__ohh ok12:38
sethkEm3rald, it does exist, but you have to install it separately12:38
johnny__kk12:38
balay3hello12:38
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mcphailsnottlebocket: it is reasonable to have doubts :) - Ubuntu is not ideal for everyone, but it doesn't hurt to try it!12:38
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gnomefreakjohnny__: is it tar.bz2?12:38
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Em3raldsnottlebocket:  meh ... some of us get a little touchy about the whole "ubuntu is ugly" problem LOL ....12:38
jpjacobssnottlebocket, if you're interested, flash9beta for linux is out, there is even a ubuntu-package for it (just don't remember the repo)12:38
johnny__.gz12:38
sethktsoler, depends on what you are doing.  I have one for programming, one for documentation, one for email/web, and one for photography12:38
LjL!flash912:39
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)12:39
Em3raldsethk:  I know, I had it with my nVidia video card, but it's performance was retarded.12:39
jpjacobsthere you go12:39
johnny__i understand now12:39
tsolerdo u use all that now??12:39
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Em3raldtsoler:  yes12:39
snottlebocketnope, like i said it seems perfectly acceptable for regular use and work and i'm defenitly a big fan of all the open source / non propriatry stuff, it just doesn't suit my needs for my graphical work12:39
gnomefreakjohnny__: i would look for a different tar. i just made a tar and it was messed up cause i made it with cvvf and tar -xvzf couldnt untar it i changed the way i compressed it and poof it worked12:39
snottlebocketso i'll stick ubuntu on the laptop and keep windows on the pc, it'll let me make a nice comparison over time12:39
binfalse1johnny__: by the way, you can use the TAB key to complete files names and directory names in the shell12:39
LjLsnottlebocket: sounds like a good idea12:40
Em3raldsnottlebocket:  I bet its less than 6 months before you have Ubuntu on your production machine haha ;)12:40
bod_Just do like I did and buy 5 computers with a multitude of OS' to play with at once :)12:40
jbmigelsnottlebocket if your not happy with the available open source softwares you are welciome to buy adobe and give away their source12:40
TGPOsnottlebocket: thats the spirit, and if you beat on it enough you'll end up finding ways to do what you want with linux instead, 6 months tops12:40
sethksnottlebocket, install cygwin on your windows box, makes windows less painful.12:40
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tsolerto be honest im trying to set up a gis on ubuntu, thats my intention12:40
bod_adobe runs fine in wine... whats all the fuss12:40
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gnomefreaksethk: no such thing as less painless in windows :)12:41
tsolerbut dont know how to hung around yet xaxa12:41
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tsolerits all about maps12:41
gnomefreaktsoler: what is gis?12:41
binfalse1gnomefreak: there is a windows port of less, btw  .:)12:41
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tsolermapping etc12:41
gnomefreakah12:41
LjLgnomefreak: geographical information system12:41
Em3raldtsoler:  as in google-earth style stuff?12:41
tsoleryes12:41
binfalse1gnomefreak: and pain doesn't need to be ported ;)12:41
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Em3raldbrb12:42
capgadgetgis tells you everything you want to know except where you left your keys.12:42
johnny__how do i go back to defaul directory in terminal12:42
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tsolergoogle is on the top, im just a normal user12:42
johnny__i tried cd johnny12:42
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LjLjohnny__: cd ~12:42
tonyyarussoDoes anyone know how to fix this?:  HP Pavilion dv4150us laptop; gets really hot and then the fan finally kicks in (hard), cools it off, and stops, rather than running more frequently or continuously at a lower speed.12:42
snottlebocketthe multiple workspace thingy lower right is sweet12:42
TGPOXVampireX cant reply to PMs sorry12:42
pak-xhi12:42
binfalse1johnny__: cd   (without parameters)12:42
johnny__kk12:42
elfrangerzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz12:42
tsolerbut on windows very slow processing12:42
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LjLjohnny__: or for that matter, cd /home/johnny (that's the correct path)12:42
Rozabelahi, anyone want to offer help to a first time ubuntu user?12:42
XVampireXTGPO, I'm someone who tries to help get K1765 to Ubuntu, I couldn't help him with booting problems so told him to come here but it seems like not many could help though you mentioned that he should look into the bios12:42
LjL!ask12:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:42
tsoleri ve made some post on google12:42
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Liuitisomeone know about aiglx?12:43
tsolergoogle earth i mean12:43
LjL!aiglx > Liuiti12:43
gnomefreakelfranger: please dont do that there is no need to post so many of same letter or number12:43
Hitchsure Rozabela12:43
johnny__tyty12:43
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binfalse1johnny__: you want to learn the difference between absolute and relative paths12:43
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elfrangergnomefreak: sorry, it was just an outburst12:43
bod_The problems with windows guys is that there in a comfort zone that says, I dont quite know how to get linux to do what i want right now and iam not ready to learn how. I realy want to cross over but I just cant be arsed...12:43
Em3raldTony:  Not sure my friend ... is this exclusive to Linux for you?12:43
XVampireXTGPO: "didnt see driver settings anywhere"12:43
johnny__ok12:43
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sethkXVampireX, no, it's not a bios issue12:43
tsolerif i can mount my disks i will sent you some data gnomefreak12:43
XVampireXsethk, so what is it?12:44
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Willhow do i get a custom theme in gnome ubuntu 6.6?12:44
tonyyarussoEm3rald: It's a friend's machine actually, but yes.  She dual-boots with Win XP, and it's fine there.12:44
Rozabelahitch: my linux partion isn't detecting my network card12:44
elfrangercan I add a HDD to a running ubuntu server?12:44
Willive gone to gnome-look12:44
johnny__binfalse1: Yea12:44
Willbut dont know what ot download12:44
Rozabelai don't know why12:44
Will*to12:44
sethkXVampireX, could be a slight misalignment between the burner and the cd reader.  I have seen a couple of cases of this type of behavior that were fixed by using the proper jumper settings for the drive.12:44
LjL!changethemes > will12:44
TGPOXVampireX yes, sometimes you can make bios tweaks to the drive settings that will allow it to work under other circumstances, LBA, and such12:44
pak-xi wanted to install gnome 2.16.1, but as i typed ./configure he says, that a parser perl module is required for intltool, so a googled and found a download XML-Parser 2.34, but after a run the Makefile, I typed make, but he dont know make? why12:44
Willi know12:44
Em3raldtony:  I remember reading a similar problem in ubuntuforums.org ....... if no one knows here, you could try there.12:44
sethkXVampireX, specifically, if the drive is connected with an EIDE cable, make sure it's jumpered for cable select12:44
Willbut what do i download to get the theme12:44
Hitchwhat is your network card?12:45
Em3raldtsoler:  which drives are you trying to mount?12:45
Willwhat format12:45
bluksorry to ask this again, but i saw no answer yet; how come the nice graphical version of INIT has gone off? (after moving the system from one hd to another)12:45
WillGTK12:45
Willor somthing12:45
TGPOXVampireX its not about changing a driver, but tweaking the bios12:45
LjL!enter12:45
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.12:45
sethkXVampireX, it's not impossible that switching DMA off (in the BIOS setting for the drive) would help, but the odds aren't great.12:45
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tsolermy ntfs drives12:45
XVampireXThanks12:45
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tonyyarussoEm3rald: Already have, and came up with answers for other brands, but not HPs.12:45
elfrangerhttp://www.mimoco.com/swlanding.htm12:45
XVampireXGotta catch him online now, don't know where he went :P12:45
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Em3raldtsoler:  easy stuff:  there's a cool howto about using ntfs-3g on the forum ... I will see if I can find a link.12:45
TGPOto look at his bios12:45
tsolerany suggestions emerald12:45
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sethkXVampireX, tell him to try burning the CD at the lowest available speed setting, say 4x.12:46
bod_http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only12:46
pak-xwhat does  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool means and what can i do?12:46
binfalse1johnny__: absolute paths always begin with a "/" and start from the root directory (example: /etc/X11). relative paths are relative to the current directory (examples: Desktop, ../bin, .)12:46
Exclamationhi, i want to chance my powernowd setting from on demand to conservative.12:46
Dr_willis!ntfs12:46
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:46
Kr0ntabso how bout flash 9, eh?  About time they released something.12:46
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Willwhat about for gnome?12:46
taliseinKr0ntab: ? You mean you want a package for it?12:46
XVampireXsethk, that's what he did :P12:46
Kr0ntabno... already got it..12:46
XVampireXsethk, I mean he burned it at 4x12:47
tsoleremerald: listen whats the strange , i can see ntfs drive on network but not on my computer12:47
Em3raldtsoler:  try this one, this is the one I use, and it was really easy and it works flawlessly:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g12:47
Kr0ntabseveas repo has it...12:47
elfrangerI tried adding a user specifying the homedir and group...12:47
Kr0ntabadobe released it i think on 10/1812:47
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lenathHi, I've switched to Ubuntu a couple of days ago, been playing around and just about to dump Windows... I am trying to install Juploadr but miserably fails... It is a tar.gz file and don't know the procedure to install these kind of files. Been looking around and nothing has worked so far... Could anyone help me or point me to the right method?12:47
Dr_willisI still have a hard time just FINDING the flash 9 links.12:47
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tsolerthanks again will check immediatelly12:47
elfrangerbut it warns me that the homedir already exists12:47
johnny__hm12:47
gnomefreak!flash912:47
Hitchdid somebody know if it is true that oracle will make a linux distribution for her?12:47
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)12:47
gnomefreaknothard12:47
Kr0ntabmakin the web soooo much more usable12:47
johnny__ic12:47
gnomefreaknot hard even12:47
johnny__nice12:47
Em3raldtsoler:  peculiar ... but I am not sure what the deal is there.12:47
kitcheKr0ntab: umm it's only beta :)12:47
LjL!enter12:47
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.12:47
LjL!offtopic12:47
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:47
tsolerbut do you have any ideas why is that12:47
tsoleroops12:47
johnny__i understand that :)12:47
Kr0ntabyeah... but much better than 712:48
Kr0ntabhehe12:48
XVampireXlenath, what are the contents of the tar.gz files12:48
elfrangerI want to create users for my ftp that all has the same home folder /home/ftp12:48
Em3raldtsoler:  absolutely no clue LOL.12:48
bod_http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox12:48
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sethklenath, it's probably a source code archive, so you have to build it.12:48
pak-xcan someone help me please?  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool12:48
Dr_willisKr0ntab,  every link/download i find mentione don the flash 9 pages - get flash 712:48
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Em3raldbrb ... gotta help my daughter with something.12:48
mcquaidhello, i have dapper on my main drive and edgy on a second drive, when I installed edgy i let it rewrite the mbr so it's now reading edgy's menu.1st12:48
binfalse1i wonder why people still stick to a braindead protocol like ftp12:48
XVampireXhehe12:48
tsolerdo u see ntfs emerald?12:48
mcquaidi am now removing the drive with edgy, so I need to rewrite grub, how do I do this?12:48
sethkbinfalse1, they know how to use it, is the main reason.12:48
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LjL!grub > mcquaid12:49
bluksorry but was my question stupid or bad formulated or both ? :)12:49
sethkmcquaid, you can do it with the grub utility.12:49
Em3raldtsoler:  can you see it with Ubuntu's disk manager?  system>admin>disks?12:49
binfalse1sethk: then they deserve their passwords to be stolen12:49
johnny__ok by extracting the ndiswrapper it is suppose to create a directory... so i typed in cd ndiswrapper-1.2712:49
tsolerno12:49
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LjLbluk: what is the "graphical version of INIT"?12:49
sethkbinfalse1, no disagreement here.  I don't allow it on any system I'm responsible for.12:49
tsoleronly sees that one im working in right now12:50
Em3raldtsoler:  wierd ............12:50
johnny__johnny@linux-box:~$ cd ndiswrapper-1.2712:50
johnny__bash: cd: ndiswrapper-1.27: No such file or directory12:50
tsolerand its not ntfs12:50
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tsolerits etc3?? or something like that12:50
mcquaidsethk, LjL I know there are guides to fixing the mbr if one installed windows or whatever, but I haven't screwed it up yet, so instead of doing a live cd thing I'd rather rewrite the mbr while I'm booted in dapper now12:50
LjLjohnny__: type "ls". you should see a list of the directories that you really do have.12:50
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mcquaidsethk, so what do I run just grub?12:50
Em3raldtsoler:  yeah, ext3 is the usual for Linux.12:50
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LjLmcquaid: i think the page covers that. anyway, i think you want the grub-install command.12:51
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johnny__ok12:51
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Em3raldtsoler:  what if you type this in your command prompt:12:51
sethkmcquaid, you run grub, then you use the  root   and   setup    commands12:51
blukLjL: usually in most distros, init is in text mode. but in Ubuntu, theres a nice graphical version of it, at start, with a progress bar and all that12:51
johnny__its there12:51
lenathsethk: can you point me to the right method for building it? Are we talkin compilation here?12:51
johnny__:)12:51
sethkmcquaid, if you config file is set correctly, that's all there is to it.12:51
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sethklenath, yes12:51
{_-IcE-_}can any1 give me a hand on dovecot pls? im trying to set some pop accounts, if i select Standard Unix user database for users and unix shadow file for passwords through webmin, what do i have to put for userdb and passdb in the config?12:51
Em3raldsudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS12:51
LjLbluk: init is still init. there is simply a program called "usplash" that provides a splash screen12:51
fangbiteI have a problem. I installed ubuntu w/ the alternate CD, it asked for a password for a user, but not a username. How can I fix this?12:51
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sethklenath, typically a tar.gz file contains source that needs to be compiled.12:51
mcquaidsethk, uh what root and setup cmds?12:51
blukand it disappeared since i transferred the system on another HD, i can't figure out why12:52
Hitchmcquaid, where did u get the edgy from?12:52
johnny__johnny@linux-box:~$ ls12:52
johnny__broken 3  Desktop           mkdev.sh      ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz12:52
LjLbluk: the system itself works alright?12:52
johnny__Command:  diggnation64      mkdev.sh~     TheBroken Ep412:52
johnny__Default   Linux Wallpapers  My Documents12:52
LjL!paste12:52
ink251Hey, in 6.06 is there any tool similar to the windows12:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:52
lenathsethk: all right, ill investigate this and let u know how it goes...12:52
johnny__johnny@linux-box:~$ cd ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz12:52
johnny__bash: cd: ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz: Not a directory12:52
dcordes!ntfs12:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:52
binfalse1johnny__: btw, why do you want to build ndiswrapper from source? there is a ready-build ubuntu package for that12:52
ink251"search for files containing"12:52
tsolersorry one moment12:52
sethklenath, ok12:52
mcquaidHitch, I grabbed the alt cd and installed it from that12:52
blukindeed it works fine; it's no critical problem... but i'm curious :)12:52
dcordes!fuse12:52
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:52
johnny__is there12:52
XVampireXjohnny__, .tar.gz files are not directories, they are archives12:52
tsolerfew its getting too many messages here12:52
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johnny__well i was talking about ndiswrrapper12:52
johnny__and someone said to read the wiki12:52
Em3raldtsoler:  np12:53
johnny__and thats what i am doing12:53
johnny__:/12:53
bod_find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 12:53
watson540johnny__:: thats not a gfolder you goof12:53
XVampireXjohnny__, read it carefully then12:53
mcquaidsethk, ok I think I have it figured out, now my next thing is I want to put this drive with edgy in a new computer, it never had the mbr written to it12:53
fangbiteAnyone?12:53
LjLbluk: i don't know, perhaps give this a try: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install usplash"12:53
sethkmcquaid, you fix it the same way, although you'12:53
ink251how would i find "hello" in all files in a certain directory12:53
Yourname*sigh*12:53
Em3raldtsoler:  and like I said, using the link I have you (the ntfs-3g one) is my personal favorite.  It really works, and doesn't seem to screw anything up at all.12:53
johnny__so just do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper12:53
sethkmcquaid, although you'll have to boot a live cd to get the system up so you can write the mbr.12:53
bod_ink251: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 12:53
blukthanks, i'll try at once!12:53
tsolerwhere is command prompt?? lol12:53
mcquaidso I want to write the mbr to this drive when it's in the new computer but obviously fstab and menu.1st will be incorrect12:53
YournameEveryone knows WPA is way better than WEP.12:53
binfalse1johnny__: i doubt that the wiki recommends building ndiswrapper from source12:53
bod_try man find12:53
Em3raldtsoler:  apps>acces>terminal12:53
mighty_falconcan someone help me to get the fstab to automount my usb peripherals? it doesnt automount my ipod nor my usb flashdrive anymore12:54
Liuitihow i done the pannel as mac osx ?12:54
tsoleru are the best12:54
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mcquaidsethk, ya I thought that, but is there an automated way to recreate the fstab and menu.1st or do I have to manually fix em12:54
Em3raldtsoler:  LOL np ... if you want to cut down on traffic, we can go to PM if you want ...12:54
sethkmcquaid, yes, if it is now hda (or sda, or whatever) and it used to have a different device, then you'll have to modify fstab and menu.lst12:54
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YournameEveryone knows WPA is way better than WEP. And that a secure linux community would always want WPA, than WEP. If ubuntu is being a very good OS, and wants noobs like me to try it.. the basics like WPA connectivity should be covered. It's sooooo hard to find help or documentation to get this other than pointers like "use wpa_supplicant".12:54
binfalse1johnny__: maybe the info in the wiki is outdated. ndiswrapper is at least in dapper (i think it was even in breezy)12:54
tsolerthat would be perfect12:55
Seeker2599anyone know of a avi splitter for ubuntu?12:55
johnny__k12:55
sethkmcquaid, I don't know of an automated way, but it's just a search and replace with a text editor.12:55
tsolercan u pm me?12:55
johnny__i will just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper12:55
LjLYourname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo12:55
watson540Yourname:: we only want noobs of they're willing  to google :)12:55
Em3raldtsoler done:D12:55
green__saotometried to update to edgy, with "update-manager -c -d", but i got an error about calculating downloads. Is there a work around?12:55
mcquaidsethk, will the uuid's be the same? as I noticed edgy uses uuids for the drive in fstab12:55
gravesonseeker2599: avidemux - quite good actually12:55
mcquaidnot sure how uuid's are determined12:55
tsolerwhere are u?12:55
Liuitihow i done the pannel as mac osx ?12:55
mighty_falconanyone know how to automount USB drive using fstab?12:55
Seeker2599ok i got that one but i cant find where it saved12:55
sethkmcquaid, I'm not sure about that.12:56
Em3raldheh you probably have another window or something.12:56
b03ntoLiuiti, u can try this link http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php12:56
sladenmighty_falcon: Universally unique ids are long random numbers;  two generated are unlikely to be the same12:56
mcquaidthere should be an automated script when migrating a drive to a new computer, windows 98 pukes going to new hardware but xp actually handles it quite well12:56
tsolerha?12:56
sethkmighty_falcon, you don't automount using fstab, exactly, for any type of drive.  You add a USB drive to fstab in exactly the same manner you add any other type of drive to fstab12:56
mcquaidi know a saw a guide on this awhile back but can't find it now12:56
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Yournamewatson540: Thank you. If the main ubuntu dude saw you saying that, I'm sure he'd whip you. :)12:56
Em3raldtsoler:  what application are you using to IRC?12:56
tsoleronly two windows12:56
sethkmighty_falcon, maybe I didn't really understand your question?12:56
YournameLjL: Thanks12:56
tsolerthe defalt one12:57
gravesonseeker2599: did you download the tarball- because there is a deb package maintained ,though i do not have the website right now12:57
Em3raldUmmmm .... LOL, been a long time, which is that?12:57
mcquaidbut heh, by now I could have just reinstalled, while I've been searching for a way to move this drive to a new puter gracefully12:57
Seeker2599graveson: where does avidemux save to?12:57
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mighty_falconsethk: the problem is that last night i decided to get rid of my XP partition, that gave me a whole bunch of headaches the whole day as my aprtiton tables got screwed up12:57
johnny__thank you guys for the help :)12:57
Seeker2599i downloaded it from add/remove12:57
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mighty_falconsethk: i finally fixed it all, but now when i plus in my ipod, usbdrive etc12:57
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gravesonseeker2599: you specify the directory to save it to12:57
LjLYourname: if you open a private query with the bot and type terms, it is likely to give you some information about them. it's often useful.12:57
Em3raldtsoler:  OR, if you have a list of usernames somewhere in this channel, double-click my name or right-click or something.12:57
tsoleremerald i found you12:57
Em3raldokay12:57
Seeker2599it didnt ask me to12:58
YournameLjL: Thanks again.12:58
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tsolerdo u see me12:58
watson540Yourname:: heh,, well i wasntreally aiming at you, but a lot of these people need to get un-lazy and start googling, although i doubt linux is vieing for anyone to cross over seeing as its non-profit12:58
mighty_falconsethk: it doesnt autmount them anymore i have to do it by hand12:58
Em3raldUm, nope.  Wierd12:58
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fiveironok, so my baby daughter seems to have stopped my 6.10 upgrade... and i'm having some issues removing courier-authdaemon.  it tells me to reinstall it before attempting to remove.  but every time i try to install it I get errors... anyone know if I can just forcibly remove the app or just tell the update manager to not worry about it12:58
Em3raldHmm, I could create a temp channel maybe ... #em3rald and you could /join #em3rald12:58
pak-xcan someone help me please?  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool12:58
tsolerdont you get my mesagges there?12:59
Yournamewatson540: Sure. But, if Google records the queries I must've given it to tell me how to upgrade a .tgz or install one, or get WPA to work with my drivers.. then Google would know me by first name.12:59
mcphailfiveiron: have you tried "sudo apt-get install -f"?12:59
blukLjL: init still in text mode, but the reinstall went fine. could you give me an advice on which script to look at (if there's one) ?12:59
tsoleri saw yours12:59
Em3raldtsoler:  nope12:59
b03ntoLiuiti, is that mac enough for u ? i doubt the logo thing will work anyway...12:59
Em3raldoop phone12:59
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watson540Yourname:: they know me by my email cause i keep a jar of cookies for them12:59
tsolerlet me find you , one minute please12:59
sethkmighty_falcon, in fstab, make sure the "noauto" option is not set.12:59
sethkmighty_falcon, do you mean that you want it to mount at boot time, or when you connect it?01:00
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fiveironmcphail, yep... it tells me this:01:00
watson540seriously though, in the time it takes to come in here and beg ppl t o show you how to un tar a file you could have built it and had it running using google01:00
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cafuegowhut?01:00
fiveirondpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove):01:00
fiveiron Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should01:00
fiveiron reinstall it before attempting a removal.01:00
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blukLjL: oh but i realize, maybe the usplash is working in fact, but the "graphical tty" (i don't know how it's called) isn't activated anymore?01:00
kurtoWas wondering if anyone had any tips on swapping out their system disk.  I used a 200gig ATA drive for my install, but now realize I need to segregate some of the data physically for performance01:00
kurtoso I want to replace it with a 40 gig drive without having to rebuild the box....01:00
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Em3raldtsoler:  can you /join #em3rald?01:01
LjLbluk: type "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep slash". does it show anything?01:01
mighty_falconsethl: when i connect it01:01
sethkkurto, you can do that, primarily by changing some directories to symbolic links, and pointing the links at whatever other drive now contains the actual data.01:01
cafuegokurto: Insert the 40GB, install system. Boot, mount 200GB, move cfg files, link actual data...01:01
johnny__i downloaded my wireless driver and opened the folder. my driver.inf is not in there01:01
bluki suppose you mean "grep splash"01:02
sethkmighty_falcon, that's related to the hotswap configuration, not really to fstab.  look into the udev settings.01:02
dbmerkI have forced block checking on my hard drive and there are 495 bad blocks, but when i go through the installer it insists that the / partition be formatted, and then the install hangs at 70% while copying files again01:02
sethkmighty_falcon, BRB01:02
LjLbluk: yes, i do :)01:02
mighty_falconsethk: when I connect it, i got the ipod to mount manually but would be nice if it automounted01:02
kurtoAt the costs of drives, it's probably easier for me to just buy another disk, hunh.....01:02
bluki remember having seen it, give me a minute01:02
dbmerkdoes anyone know a way to force the installer itself while it is formatting / to do a bad block check ?01:02
mighty_falconsethk: where would i find the udev settings?01:02
protexGuys, my Banshee music list has no fonts, anyone have this problem?01:02
kurtoThe box is my mythtv box and It took me MONTHS to get it working correctly.01:02
binfalse2testing thttpd with cgi-bin: http://84.179.122.120:29000/01:02
johnny__i suppose i need it for sudo ndiswrapper -i /Desktop/your_driver.inf01:02
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lenathsethk: I've been following this method: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html However I stall on step two. I can't do a ./configure to output the makefile needed for make install01:03
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fangbiteWhat's the package name for gnome? (for apt-get)01:03
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johnny__ic nevermind01:03
LjLdbmerk: perhaps the better option is saying RIP to that hard drive. do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled in the BIOS? if not, try enabling it and seeing if it reports a failure. if it does, time to change your drive.01:03
Vaske_Carwhat is the best password manager for Gnome?01:03
johsoone of my fat32 drives goes read-only everytime i start my computer. I'm pretty sure there's an error on it. how can I fix the error without wiping everything on it?01:03
dbmerkljl: no smart it's quite old01:04
Vaske_Carjohso, check out for a software called spinrite01:04
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blukLjL: hmm the only args to the kernel are: root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet01:04
dbmerkljl: but i would rather get it working, it's fairly common to do a bad block check, not sure why it isn't doing one01:04
blukaltho i'm sure i've seen it before01:04
LjLbluk: add a "splash" to that01:04
blukshall i add "splash" ?01:04
blukokay thanks :)01:04
fiveironmcphail, any ideas?01:04
mcphailfiveiron: fortunately, i've never had a package in " a very bad inconsistent state"! Maybe it would work if you use aptitude instead of apt-get to do the reinstall?01:04
green_earzVaske_Car: have a look at mypasswordsafe if thats what your looking for01:04
fangbiteWhat's the package name for gnome?01:05
fangbiteI can't get apt-get to install it01:05
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mcphailfiveiron: failing that, you could try the various "force" options. That would be a last resort, tough01:05
mcphail*though01:05
pak-xcan someone help me please?  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool???? can no one help me -.-01:05
LjLbluk, if you install from the Alternate CD, it should give you an option for *not* formatting the partition. not sure the Desktop CD has such an option.01:05
fangbitepak-x, run cpan01:06
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fangbiteThen install XML::Parser01:06
blukokay i get it now, after moving the partition, i did reinstall grub manually -not thru Ubuntu install- and of course it didn't set splash by default, hence the "disappearance", thanks a lot to make me understand that, sorry for the, after all, stupid question :)01:06
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dbmerkljl: i think that was meant for me, thanks i'll check it out01:06
merlininstalled nvidia driver after installing edgy.. reboots and Big blue screen with %'s all over it saying xorg is screwed up01:06
LjLfangbite: if you are using Ubuntu (rather than Kubuntu or Xubuntu or something), you have Gnome already installed. otherwise, you can install the "ubuntu-desktop" package.01:06
johsoVaske_Car: Thanks, that software looks really useful (wish I'd know it before), but I can access my data fine. problem is that I can't write. tried it before, and moved everything to another computer, wiped the disk and moved everything back. but I was wondering if this was doable without moving everything, just fixing it.01:06
fangbiteLjL, I did the alternate install01:06
LjLdbmerk, yes, it was. sorry bluk.01:07
fangbiteIt gave me the X login screen, but it can't login01:07
bod_merlin:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL01:07
fangbiteI'm in a failsafe terminal01:07
mighty_falconsethk: any ideas?01:07
LjLfangbite: well, i don't know what that could be due to, but try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" anyway01:08
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LjLfangbite: what does "can't login" mean anyway? it refuses to accept your password, it goes straight back to the login screen without saying a thing...?01:08
fangbiteIt says it's installed01:08
fangbiteLjL, it says the session lasted under a second then returned to the login screen01:09
blukwhy "sorry"? you were great!01:09
Vaske_Carjohso, check out for a software called QuickTechPro it is capable to deply test hard drive01:09
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Vaske_Cargreen_earz, installed mypasswordsafe, how to start it, it is not in menu list01:09
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pak-xalso i have the problem, then when i type "perl Makefile.PL" it works and no error comes, but when i then type "make", he is saying, that i dont know "make"? sorry01:11
LookTJwhere is the official gentoo ?01:11
pak-xi = he01:11
green_earzVaske_Car: from the command line  /usr/bin/MyPasswordSafe01:11
totall_6_7Vaske_Car: the name is the command to start it01:12
totall_6_7Vaske_Car: mypasswordsafe01:12
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Vaske_Caris there a way to add it to the menu?01:13
LjLLookTJ: why don't you ask that in the gentoo channel?01:13
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johnny__i have installed my driver .inf file but the terminal said "couldn't copy /Desktop/mrv8k51.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135." do i have to manually edit this?01:14
mighty_falconanyone know how to automount a device when plugged in??01:14
sethkLookTJ, gentoo is #masochists01:15
merlinhrmm... my system should be able to handle XGL and such.01:15
merlin2.8Ghz P4, GeForce 5500 256mb, 1.2gb ram.01:15
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bod_mine loves it01:16
bod_2.8 GF 4000 64mb 2 gig01:17
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tonyyarussoDoes anyone know how to fix this?:  HP Pavilion dv4150us laptop; gets really hot and then the fan finally kicks in (hard), cools it off, and stops, rather than running more frequently or continuously at a lower speed.01:17
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bod_tonyyarusso: yeah buy an IBM01:18
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bod_:)01:18
Marsmensch!pastbin01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
Marsmensch!past01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
binfalse2!paste01:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:18
tonyyarussobod_: Funny thing, that's what I did.  :)  I'm trying to solve a friend's issue.01:18
bod_;)01:19
Marsmenschthx binfalse201:19
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mighty_falconanyone know where the automount settings for the devices are?01:19
binfalse2np, martian01:19
totall_6_7Vaske_Car: what is the first thing you click to get to the menu you want to add it to (what is the name of that item you are clicking)01:19
bod_i have an advent that does the same thing01:19
sethktonyyarusso, the fan turn on temp is usually configurable in the BIOS01:19
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bod_try setting power saving to low01:20
tonyyarussosethk: Noted.  I know some things are software controlled though; any idea what the distinction is?01:20
Xal2I'm getting the following error when using this command: make kpkg-clean01:20
Xal2make: *** No rule to make target `kpkg-clean'.  Stop.01:20
habeebHello, as always, my fglrxinfo works alright, but I dont have Direct Rendering, also I cant use fgl_glxgears01:21
b03ntoXal2, i think its make-kpkg clean01:21
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Xal2ah right01:21
Xal2^^01:22
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merlinblah.01:23
apjonehi , can anyone tell me what port i need open on my firewall to recieve mail, i am running postfix / courier01:23
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habeebAny ideas, on why I cant see the alltray tray icon?01:23
habeebAnd is there any Mac dock for GNOME, like kiba-dock, that support transparency without a composite manager?01:24
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LjLapjone: "cat /etc/services | grep -i <service>". i suppose you're looking for the SMTP service01:24
dolphyis there anyway to use lilo instead of grub out of the dapper install live cd ?01:24
dolphydapper's grub fails miserably on mac mini intel01:25
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jbmigelim getting warnings that my disk is full... is there a way to compress everything for space and run a little slower?01:25
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megaueihello01:25
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LjLjbmigel: not on ext3 that i know of.01:25
poningru!clit01:25
j2daoshi know this is slightly off-topic, but how can i burn 6 cd iso's onto 1 dvd and still have them be bootable?01:25
poningru...01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
poningru!convertlit01:26
sethkj2daosh, no01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convertlit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
j2daoshno, like its not possible...?01:26
sethkj2daosh, no, like if you just copy them all to a dvd it won't work.01:26
megaueijust checking: the upgrade to Edgy proccess is around 2 hrs rigth?01:26
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bun-bunanyone know of any good tools for extracting cd audio to wav format?01:29
megaueibun-bun,  I use k3b01:30
chuckypAnyone know how to launch a terminal without window decorations?01:30
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bun-bunmegauei# does that require kde?01:30
taliseinchuckyp: you probably want something like eterm01:30
megaueinope01:30
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megaueiI have it under gnome01:30
bun-bunmegauei# thanks for the tip, i will check it out01:31
LjLbun-bun: it is a KDE program. like all KDE programs, you can run it under Gnome as well, it'll just install a bunch of KDE librari.es01:31
megaueiox01:31
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LjLbun-bun: "cdparanoia" is a command line application.01:31
bun-bunLjL# yeah anything that starts with "k" i worry about :)01:31
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LjLbun-bun: for a Gnome app, you could try "grip"01:32
jaimiedroletHi01:32
preactionbun-bun, even klogd and kjournald?01:32
jaimiedroletI can't seem to get FrostWire installed.  Anyone able to help me please?  I'm using kubuntu.01:33
LjL!frostwire01:33
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire01:33
jaimiedroletWell, I see it installed in pplications, but it won't load when I'm clicking it01:33
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megaueiso u wont have problems with amaroK lol ^^01:33
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jaimiedroletWell, I see it installed in applications, but it won't load when I'm clicking it01:34
LjLjaimiedrolet: try running "frostwire" from a terminal01:34
Liuitihow i done the pannel as mac osx ?01:35
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LjLLiuiti: sorry?01:35
chuckypjaimiedrolet, try typing frostwire in a terminal01:35
jaimiedroletit says I don't have a valid JRE01:35
chuckypjaimiedrolet, you need java run time01:35
b03ntoLiuiti, have u try this link http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php01:35
jaimiedroletWell I downloaded it01:36
jaimiedroletand installed it I think01:36
jaimiedroletbut it looks like it didn't work01:36
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jaimiedroletActually I'm a noob with Linux :P01:36
thcrw8383Me too01:36
thcrw8383but im learning01:36
jaimiedroletI installed it yesterday... I wanted to use it with Win Xp but I've got an error and it formatted all of my partitions01:36
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jaimiedroletAnd I couldn't seem to find my winxp cd01:37
thcrw8383:( so sorry01:37
jaimiedroletso I just re-entered the Kubuntu cd :/01:37
jaimiedroletand installed it... and btw01:37
thcrw8383Believe me,After using Ubuntu,You wont want to go back01:37
jaimiedroletI'm getting error 901 wityh Kopete pretty often01:37
thcrw8383I use GAIM01:37
quilzoI've been using kubuntu for the last few days01:38
jaimiedroletIt's better for MSN?01:38
quilzoapt-get install has changed my life01:38
jaimiedroletlol :P01:38
jaimiedroletanyways01:38
quilzoI've never felt so 133701:38
jaimiedroletcan anyone help me install frostwire?%01:38
jaimiedroletwell it's installed01:38
quilzocan't download the package01:38
jaimiedroletbut I mean...to install the good JRE01:38
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chuckyp!enter > jaimiedrolet01:39
chuckyp!frostwire > jaimiedrolet01:39
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jaimiedroletWhat's with the enter thing?01:40
quilzo!enter > quilzo01:40
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jaimiedroletI cannot press enter to send my message?01:40
chuckypjaimiedrolet, stop using it as punctuation.01:40
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[GuS] Aurevoir!01:40
quilzoahaa.01:40
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jaimiedroletI don't understand what you mean ^o)01:40
quilzoomg01:40
jaimiedroletI cannot press enter to send my message?01:40
LjLjaimiedrolet, you simply <enter> should avoid <enter> to write sentences <enter> this way01:40
taliseindon't send your message until you're done writing.01:40
chuckypjaimiedrolet, follow the directions below to get frostwire installed.01:40
chuckyp!frostwire01:40
tsole1is emerald here?01:40
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire01:40
Em3raldyup01:41
jaimiedroletI'm not sending until I'm done writing :o01:41
quilzohahahaha01:41
megaueixD01:41
chuckypLjL, its not even worth trying to explain it.01:41
jaimiedroletHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I understand what you mean!01:41
megaueilol01:41
tsole1ive lost my connection01:41
Em3raldtsole1:  you got disconnected or something?  It shows the channel is stil opem01:41
quilzoWHAHAAHHA01:41
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tsole1yes01:41
Em3raldOkay ... /join #em3rald again01:41
jaimiedroletI'll try to stop it... I'm used to MSN :P01:41
brasko_how do I know what version number of ubuntu I have installed?01:41
tsole1it did sign me in with a different nick01:42
LjLbrasko_: cat /etc/issue01:42
jaimiedroletAnyways... can anyone can help me install the good JRE to run forstwire?01:42
chuckypjaimiedrolet,  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire01:42
Em3raldthat's okay.01:42
brasko_thanks!01:42
jaimiedroletIs there the infos on the JRE?01:42
chuckypjaimiedrolet, I'm not going to read it for you.01:42
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jaimiedroletSorry...01:42
b03ntobrasko_, or lsb_release -a01:42
gansinhoplease, how do I edit my session list from comand line... I'm stuck !01:42
megaueijamie u maybe shoul reinstall JRE01:42
megauei*d01:43
LjL!java01:43
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:43
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LjLjaimiedrolet: ^01:43
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jaimiedroletYep?01:43
Liuitihow i done the pannel as mac osx ?01:43
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quilzoLjL: getting used of ^^ requiring 4 taps ?01:43
LjLjaimiedrolet: the message above.01:43
megaueilol01:43
maziahubuntu rox01:43
megauei^01:43
LjLquilzo: ...?01:43
quilzo:p01:44
LjLquilzo, indeed, typing ^^ requires four taps here, but...?! :o)01:44
quilzohahaha01:45
LjLwell, five, there is Shift too01:45
quilzobecause you typed ^01:45
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LjLquilzo: quick way of saying "look at the message above" :)01:45
megaueiits longer an upgrade than reinstall ubuntu? o.001:45
quilzoI typed ^ for 2 days while trying to type ^^01:45
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megaueihahaha same here01:45
megaueixD01:45
quilzojust couldn't make the switch01:46
quilzoI can never go back to windows, or I will type ^^^^ and be outcast01:46
jaimiedroletI wanted to know01:46
eternalswdhow dow I get my Second Screen to dipslay 1280x1024 in Gnome as I have set it to be in my xorg.conf?01:46
jaimiedroletIs there anyway I can get the sudo mode or su mode working without entering any password, and moving any files to anywhere without ever being prompted because I don't have the permission to do it?01:47
quilzoxorg xorg-configure -d 2 -r 1301:47
LjLquilzo: just use a different keyboard layout then :-P for that matter, i believe that we're using the same layout right now, but that's purely coincidential. my keyboard would normally require just two taps :)01:47
jaimiedroletAnd without using the konsole neither *01:47
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sethkgansinho, you mean the sessions available at the login screen?01:47
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quilzojaimiedrolet: settings01:48
quilzo"display"01:48
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quilzohardware01:48
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sethkjaimiedrolet, you can set the root password and do su.   or you can use  su -i01:48
dm1trihi01:48
sethkjaimiedrolet, sorry, sudo -i01:48
quilzosethk: he won't use the console :p01:48
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quilzosethk: and he calls it konsole because that's the name of the konsole gui in kde :p01:48
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quilzoaaah console*01:48
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sethkquilzo, then where is he typing the password he's trying not to type?01:49
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sethkjaimiedrolet, you can start a file browsing program as root, if that's what you are asking01:49
quilzohey, I didn't say he was succeeding :p01:49
quilzohe wants his display changed :p01:49
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quilzojaimiedrolet: ?01:50
jaimiedroletyeah?01:50
quilzokde-button, system settings, display01:50
jaimiedroletI was trying to install JRE...sorry01:50
quilzohu :p01:50
quilzowtf, who am I talking to01:50
quilzoeternalswd: ?01:51
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quilzohe left?01:51
chuckypjaimiedrolet, Did you try the directions on the web page?01:51
quilzohe left01:51
jaimiedroletI am setting the channels of Ubuntu LTS Source01:51
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quilzothe sounddrivers don't make any sense01:52
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quilzoI can change every option and it will still sound the same01:52
jaimiedroletbut it says that another app likeapt-get or aptitude is running...01:52
quilzoadept ?01:52
quilzoautomatix ?01:52
jaimiedrolet*like apt-get01:52
quilzoanother console ?01:52
jaimiedrolethmmmm01:52
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jaimiedroletwhere can I go to see the running processes?01:52
quilzops -e in console01:52
quilzoroot if you want to see those before kde-init (which you don't want)01:53
quilzoor stuff you started as root01:53
quilzo(which I doubt you can)01:53
hypetop is usefull too01:53
quilzoas in, putting a root-app in your user-de :p01:53
quilzokde*01:53
quilzofound it?01:53
jaimiedroletnah01:54
jaimiedroletI have no idea what the app that is blocking is01:54
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quilzoadept, apt-get, automatix.py01:54
chuckypjaimiedrolet, make sure synaptic is closed as well as update manager.01:54
sipherI just tried installing Ubuntu for the first time. Only ever tried Linux on live CD's.. installed from the desktop CD and when it asked the size for the new partition I set it to ~50 gigs.. but it created 2 50 gig partitions and now my win one is left with 4 gigs free. o_O01:54
jaimiedroletsynaptic is open01:54
LjL!automatix01:54
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!01:54
jaimiedrolethow do I shut it off?01:55
quilzosipjer: problem is ?01:55
quilzosipher*01:55
quilzosipher: delete second partition and resize windows01:55
sipherquandar: Problem is I wanted Ubuntu to take 50 gigs _max_.. and I need a lot more for win01:55
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chuckypLjL, i'm going to eat a bullet01:55
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quilzosipher: read what i typed01:55
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quilzochuckyp: why?01:56
jaimiedroletCan anyone tell me how to shut synaptic off with a terminal command?01:56
quilzokillall synaptic01:56
chuckypjaimiedrolet, sudo killall synaptic01:56
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hypesudo killall synaptic01:56
hypeowned01:56
hype:)01:56
chuckyp?01:56
quilzoyou were third01:56
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jaimiedroletThanks a lot :D01:56
hypesudo :p01:56
chuckypquilzo, your's was wrong though01:56
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hype^^01:57
quilzoI always go root01:57
quilzoCore :p01:57
quilzoI wanted to get kde to run in tty1 with root01:57
PumpkinPiequilzo: can you sound more fedora?01:57
quilzobut i'm not 1337 enough yet01:57
PumpkinPie"Always go ROOT, to the CORE   core 5!"01:57
sipherquilzo: I don't know what I'm doing. Last time I created seperate partitions was in win 3.101:57
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PumpkinPieFC 5!01:57
quilzosipher: WHAHAHAHAHAHAAH01:57
sipher:p01:58
kitchequilzo: well to get tty1 using kde you owuld have to have X use it01:58
sipheror :( rather01:58
quilzohahahahaahahahahahah01:58
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quilzokitche: I will need windows for the endless loop of stupidity01:58
sipherquilzo: I have a second HDD that I use for backup.. never needed to artition01:58
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sipherpartition*01:59
quilzosipher: doesn't come in handy now hu, does it ? :p01:59
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dm1triHow i configure epiphany to save all tabs when to exit ?02:00
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quilzoain't epiphany a holiday ?02:00
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bod_nah its a religious experence02:01
quilzowhich should save all tabs on exit...02:01
ianmacgregorNo, it's a game02:01
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megaueiits my dream bike02:01
quilzowhere you play 3 kings who follow a star?02:01
megaueisniF02:01
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wickedpuppy /j #kubuntu02:01
wickedpuppyoh02:01
quilzouhhm02:01
quilzodon't do that in #debian :p02:02
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dm1triquilzo, possible save tabs in epiphany ?02:02
quilzodibs on the crown02:02
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XVampireXdm1tri, I wish that too :P02:02
KanRiNiNI have slow video under XGL.  I think I just need to change the driver to gl2 to something.  I'm using totem-gstreamer.  How can I do this?02:02
kleeshey guys02:02
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kleesi'm starting to learn Python and was wondering if there was an IDE for it?02:03
XVampireXKanRiNiN, You use xv right now?02:03
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quilzokdevelop probably02:03
kleesi'm in Ubuntu02:03
kitcheklees: yea there's one that comes with python02:03
kleescommand line?02:03
XVampireXKanRiNiN, Also, video as in, video files?02:03
quilzofor kdevelop ?02:03
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KanRiNiNXVampireX: Yes, I believe so02:03
kleeskitche: is the IDE command line?02:04
KanRiNiNas in xvid and divx that previously played well in Gnome02:04
dm1triXVampireX, ;-)02:04
KanRiNiNAnd actually continue to do so in my gnome session w/o xgl02:04
kitcheklees: it's a gui program02:04
kleeskitche: what's the command to start it?02:04
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XVampireXKanRiNiN, what program? And what video output?02:04
quilzofor that video, just auto-install all the codecs you can find02:04
quilzoit worked for me02:04
quilzoI even recovered my porn from a ntfs-partition02:05
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XVampireXdm1tri, ty ruski?02:05
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quilzosounds stupid02:05
quilzosome guy said python was poo-lisp...02:06
dm1triXVampireX, brazilian02:06
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XVampireXdm1tri, Ah, okey :P02:06
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XVampireXdm1tri, nick sounds like a russian name02:06
KanRiNiNXVampireX: Sorry, it crashed.. I'm bback02:06
XVampireXKanRiNiN, You can't use opengl programs on top of XGL02:06
kitcheklees: trying to find out since it escapes me at the moment02:06
kleeskitche: np02:07
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DualCortex_could someone tell me how to compile programs in C++, i switched over from WIndows but programming is my main hobby02:07
XVampireXKanRiNiN, did you try XV?02:07
Seeker2599where do i find the files under my applications toolbar using the file browser02:07
InnerFIREhow do i install a metacity theme?02:07
KanRiNiNXVampireX: I went to gstreamer-properties, and the input is Video for Linux 1 and the output is autodetect02:07
InnerFIREit says file invalid02:07
XVampireX!programming02:07
XVampireX!build02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:07
jaimiedroletI use EasyUbuntu to install Sun-java5-plugin and it won't work.  It says that the paquet isn't available...  Anyone can help please?02:07
DualCortex_Ill read that link02:08
XVampireXKanRiNiN, Are you trying to view movies?02:08
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KanRiNiNI changed it to Xv.  Let me test it XVampireX02:08
XVampireXKanRiNiN, Alright :)02:08
XVampireXKanRiNiN, XV is the best video output02:09
XVampireXV4L is for video input02:09
jaimiedrolet use EasyUbuntu to install Sun-java5-plugin and it won't work.  It says that the paquet isn't available...  Anyone can help please?02:09
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InnerFIREmetacity theme anyone? how do i install one?02:09
DualCortex_are there any graphic development environments that don't require me to use the terminal every time just to debug my code02:09
Seeker2599where do i find the files under my applications toolbar using the file browser?02:09
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, need to enable universe and multiverse02:09
XVampireX!univese02:09
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XVampireX!universe02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about univese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:10
kitcheklees: it's called IDLE02:10
kleeskitche: cool thx02:10
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XVampireXIDLE is awesome02:10
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quilzoidle ?02:11
jaimiedroletI've made it universe already02:11
jaimiedroletIn the channel things...02:11
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, sudo apt-get update02:11
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XVampireXErrr, you need to update02:11
quilzoI have all the standards and the automix ones02:11
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jaimiedroletThere02:12
jaimiedroletnow it should work&02:12
jaimiedrolet?02:12
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SpudDoggDoes anyone know anything about getting the built-in bluetooth in a toshiba laptop working?02:12
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, yes02:12
jaimiedroletstill same error02:12
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quilzoKDE has bluetooth chat...02:13
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, sec02:13
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, linux is case sensitive02:13
SpudDoggquilzo, i've installed that, but i cannot get the device workin g02:13
jaimiedroletit worked.  it has done the updates02:13
quilzorodger02:13
DualCortex_hmm well I fount it myself... Eclipse seem slike a good IDE02:13
jaimiedroletit just won't work with easyubuntu02:13
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quilzoseems like easyubuntu is a pain in the ass02:14
SquirrlesWould anyone know how to configure an ATI Raedon graphics card02:14
quilzoSquirrles: I have an ATI radeon too :)02:14
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin02:14
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XVampireXjaimiedrolet, do that in console02:14
jaimiedroletit says there's no packet with the name of sun-java5-plugin02:15
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dm1triHow i configure epiphany to save all tabs when to exit ?02:15
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dm1trisave session02:15
jaimiedrolet:(02:15
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XVampireXdm1tri, there's no such thing in epiphany02:15
SpudDoggDoes anyone know anything about getting the built-in bluetooth in a toshiba laptop working?02:15
dm1triXVampireX, :'(02:15
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, hmm, did you enable ALL repositories?02:15
Squirrlescan somone tell me how to install my ATI Raedon graphics card with ubuntu02:15
DualCortex_dm1tri, I think you are confusing Epiphany with Opera02:16
jaimiedroletwhat's "ALL" repositories?02:16
bun-bunanyone use yahoopops?02:16
ericmoritz\0hey, is there a command line app that can watch a file for change and then execute a command if there's a change?02:16
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, ALL = all02:16
dm1triFirefox(extension: save session)02:16
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XVampireXdm1tri, epiphany is not exactly firefox02:16
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ArrenLexHas anyone ever installed\heard of someone install ubuntu\any linux on an intel mac? Are there any hoops to jump through? Any resources available?02:17
jaimiedroletwell...I went to change the channels... and then I clicked on  Ubuntu 6.06 LT (Source), clicked add and checked them all.  is that what you mean?02:17
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ericmoritz\0ArrenLex, Search digg.com, I think I've seen it a fee times there02:17
ericmoritz\0fee = few02:17
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, source is just that, source...02:17
XVampireXmeh, just a sec02:17
XVampireX!repositories02:17
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:17
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, please read through the second link02:18
ArrenLexIf it's on digg.com I assume that it's a horrible hack someone managed to make half-work by soldering some extra chips and hex-editing some mac software?02:18
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XVampireXjaimiedrolet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu02:18
kitcheArrenLex: think bootcamp can install stuff easily02:19
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effie_jayxhas anybody experience cosntant freezes ??02:19
scandiumhello, is there a reason why launchpad bug 57595 has been idle for weeks although it's about a package of "main" and a security issue (amongst other bugs)?02:19
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ArrenLexDoes bootcamp support any OS, or only Windows? Does it come with the system?02:19
ericmoritz\0http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18347202:20
eternalswdhow do I change which screen gets xv usage.  I have an ati with one bes and would like to allow my tv screen to use xv rather than my monitor.02:20
XVampireXArrenLex, I think only windows02:20
effie_jayxI have , and I switch to the vesa driver... but I would like to use the ati driver... :(02:20
ArrenLexeric: awesome, I'll check it out. Thanks!02:20
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ericmoritz\0here's the actual install link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1060679&postcount=2202:20
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ericmoritz\0the previous one was just someone asking about what would work02:21
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ericmoritz\0wtf, sorry ignore that last link, the title of the link wasn't what it actually was02:22
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ArrenLexAwesome, looks good.02:22
ArrenLexThis is for a macbook... how about a mac mini?02:23
ericmoritz\0I know my coworker got it working with parallels02:23
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ArrenLexthat's an emulator, isn't it?02:23
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ericmoritz\0no, it's virtualization software02:23
K1765grem02:23
ArrenLexYes, is what I mean.02:23
ArrenLexLike vmware\virtual pc.02:23
ArrenLexYes?02:23
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ericmoritz\0it doesn't emulate, it translates02:23
ericmoritz\0ArrenLex, yeah it's really fast too02:24
jaimiedroletI'm sorry, but I've just enabled all the "deb" and "deb-src" to universe and multiverse02:24
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jaimiedroletand it's still giving me the packet error02:24
ericmoritz\0ArrenLex, I couldn't tell that Ubuntu wasn't running natively02:24
K1765Hey, where in bios is the driver settings, cuz i dont see one02:24
XVampireXjaimiedrolet, what packet error?02:24
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chuckypjaimiedrolet, if you read the directions on the page I sent you it goes in to detail on how to install frostwire.02:24
chuckyp!frostwire02:25
jaimiedroletWell I have Kubuntu in French =/  So I can translate02:25
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:25
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chuckyp!fr02:25
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:25
merlinwow...02:25
jaimiedroletYes Chucky but I can't seem to get java working02:25
chuckypjaimiedrolet, did you try the fr channel?02:25
jaimiedroletthanks much :)02:25
jaimiedroletYeah I went.  Thanks for everything bro02:26
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K1765where in bios is the driver settings, cuz i dont see one02:26
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chuckypK1765, driver settings?02:26
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Em3raldfor a repository list, if a person is in Greece, which is the best country code to go with (like http://ca.ubuntu.~~~~)02:27
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chuckyp!sources02:27
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:27
chuckyp!easysource > Em3rald02:27
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merlinevery time i reboot my edgy box... it says xorg.conf is messed up02:28
ArrenLexThanks LOTS for all the help, ericmoriz! :) It looks awesome.02:28
chuckypmerlin, what do you end up donig to get X working?02:28
merlinre-installing nvidia drivers02:28
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Em3raldtx02:28
merlinthen startx. and it works beautifully02:28
chuckypmerlin, How are you i nstalling them?02:28
merlinfrom the nvidia site.02:29
K1765sethk u there?02:29
chuckypmerlin, I would just make sure the nvidia module is getting loaded.02:29
melonok - i can't unrar a rar file.. i do "apt-get install unrar" - but it says i don't have permissions - which is really odd as it's something i've never encountered before - any ideas?02:29
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merlinim a complete n00b... lol02:29
ArrenLexmelon: use sudo for admin tasks.02:29
ArrenLexsudo apt-get install unrar02:29
chuckypmerlin, on boot.  after a reboot try lsmod | grep nvidia     see if the module is being loaded.  If its htere make sure that xorg.conf has the driver listed as "nvidia"02:29
XVampireXchuckyp, install nvidia-glx and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf search for "nv" change it to "nvidia" then hit ctrl+alt+backspace02:29
ninnHello. How can i copy every single file, even the hidden onces?02:29
melonlol - yes.. i do sudo02:29
melonsorry02:29
merlinroot@filebox:~# lsmod | grep nvidia02:30
merlinnvidia 4554836 1202:30
merlini2c_core 23424 3 nvidia,i2c_ec,i2c_sis96x02:30
merlinagpgart 34888 2 nvidia,sis_agp02:30
chuckypXVampireX, my X is not broken02:30
melon"sudo apt-get install unrar" is what i typed02:30
kitcheninn: cp * <where you want to copy to>02:30
XVampireXchuckyp, I didn't say it was broken, you asked how to install nvidia drivers02:30
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ninndoenst copy the hidden ones :802:30
ninnkitche,02:30
XVampireXchuckyp, wait, lol02:30
ninn.... :/02:30
chuckypXVampireX, no i asked him how he installed them.02:30
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XVampireXchuckyp, lol, sorry, yeah, merlin02:30
merlin... lol02:31
merlinhad me confused02:31
Em3raldwell, that easy sources thing is great, but I don't know what the best country code would be.02:31
chuckypmerlin, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and make sure that under the Device section you have Driver     "nvidia"   instead of "nv"02:31
XVampireXmerlin: do what I told you, or even better yet02:31
XVampireX!nvidia02:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:31
kitcheninn: cp -R perhaps02:31
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ninnno .. doenst work too ^^^02:31
merlinSection "Device"02:31
merlinIdentifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] "02:31
merlinDriver "nvidia"02:31
merlinBusID "PCI:0:9:0"02:31
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chuckypmerlin, What sort of error are you getting when you X doesn't work?02:32
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merlinumm...02:32
merlini forget, i got used to it and just bypass it and reinstall every time02:32
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chuckypmerlin, you can cat /var/Xorg.0.log | grep EE   for the error02:32
merlinjust set that box to reboot02:32
chuckypk02:33
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merlinmy linux box is faster than my gaming box.. thats horrible02:33
merlinwell, not really02:33
merlin>.<02:33
chuckypmerlin, err.. /var/log/Xorg.0.log   or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old   for the previous one.02:33
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chuckypmerlin, wait till edgy comes out even faster.02:33
XVampireXmerlin, That's normal, linux is faster than windows.02:34
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rockzmanjbmigel, yo02:34
merlinno i mean...02:34
rockzmanjbmigel, ty so much buddy now i am ok =)02:34
merlinhardware...02:34
merlin2.8GHz Pentium 4, 1.2GB ram, GeForce 550002:34
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merlinfor my linux box02:34
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DualCortex_does sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin install the latest java version?02:35
chuckyp!java02:35
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:35
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rockzmanchuckyp,  can ya gimme some information about some services?02:36
XVampireXDualCortex_, yes02:36
Chm0ddoes ubuntu have a alsa-dev or libasound-dev file anywhere?02:36
rockzmanChm0d, sudo synaptic02:37
XVampireXyeah02:37
Chm0dive done a search in synaptic with no results02:37
chuckyprockzman, what do you want?02:37
rockzmanchuckyp, i want to make my system starts up faster deselecting  some services i dont use02:38
rockzmanchuckyp, would u know how to guide me ?02:38
kitcheChm0d: just look up alsa02:38
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chuckyprockzman, hrm... well I would search around the forums there are several guides on that.  Just becarfull deselecting certain services if that are needed for the operation of you system.02:38
rockzmanchuckyp, that is why i am worried ^.^02:39
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rockzmanbut ok i'll try myself02:39
rockzmanty anyway02:39
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merlinOkay...got the error02:39
KingLearHello all02:39
KingLearI have a small problem,02:40
Seeker2599when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?02:40
chuckypmerlin, What does it say something abou the kernel module?02:40
merlinError: API Mismatch: The Nvidia Kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this X module has the version 1.0-8776. Please make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version02:40
KingLeari have a PCtel Micromodem,02:40
KingLearand have the drivers as well,02:40
chuckypmerlin, someone else had this problem the other day and they where using automatix02:40
merlini used Envy02:40
merlin>.<02:40
merlinso what can i do to right this error02:40
chuckypmerlin, yeah you need to remove their version of the nvidia driver then install yours.02:41
KingLearhave compiled gcc as well, except for libstdc, when I try to compile drivers for the modems, it says gcc not found02:41
merlinblah.02:41
KingLearwhat can be the solution?02:41
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chuckypIs there a log of this channel on the net anywhere?02:41
marcrosoftSo i installed edgy, and i was wondering what i have to do when they release the newer version...02:41
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chuckypmerlin, I thought this channel was logged to the net if so you would be able to find it someone had your exact problem.02:41
chuckyp!edgy > marcrosoft02:41
mcphail!logs > chuckyp02:42
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DualCortex_does anyone know how to uninstall beryl02:42
chuckyp!logs > merlin02:42
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chuckypmcphail, cool ty02:42
KingLearany one who can tellme hwo to corect the gcc-4.0 compile problem?02:42
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Chm0dgrrr im trying to build a glx app called quetoo on ubuntu what headers and stuff do I need?02:43
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ubuntuhello to everybody02:43
chuckypChm0d, you need build-essentials02:43
Seeker2599when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?02:43
shawncm217any recomendation on02:43
ubuntuexcuseme02:43
Chm0dthats it?02:44
ubuntui speak spanish02:44
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merlinholy crap02:44
merlinthats alot of logs02:44
merlin>.<02:44
shawncm217any recommendation on TV software?02:44
ubuntuwhos speak spanish here?02:44
KingLearanyone please?02:44
chuckypmerlin, it was either yesterday or the day before.02:44
KingLearI have problem compiling GCC for the PCtel modem driver...02:44
chuckypmerlin, he had the exact same error as you so if you search for that you'll find it.02:44
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chuckypKingLear, why are you compiling gcc?02:45
chuckypKingLear, why not just install from synaptic?02:45
Seeker2599when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?02:45
chuckypshawncm217, mythtv02:45
KingLearchukyp, the problemis that02:45
Chm0dhmmm couldn't fine build-essentials in synaptic?02:45
KingLearI have a PCtel micromodem,02:45
chuckyp!build-essential02:46
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:46
KingLearand when I try to install its drivers, the error says, Gcc not found02:46
chuckyp!build-essentials02:46
KingLearthough I have installed via dpkg, the Gcc 4.002:46
Seveas!compiling > KingLear02:46
shawncm217thanks chuckyp any easy install method?02:46
merlinumm...02:46
Seeker2599!avidemux02:46
ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2607 kB, installed size 6756 kB02:46
merlinthese logs arent too big.. lol02:46
chuckypshawncm217, mythtv is more for recording tv are you looking for something just to view tv on your capture card?02:47
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Em3raldavidemux is awesome02:47
bioticproG'day yall, q: if blank dvds are 4.7GB capacity, why do all the ripping programs have the default image size set to 4.4GB?02:47
Seeker2599when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?02:47
shawncm217chuckyp: yes02:47
sethkbioticpro, overhead02:47
KingLearso?02:47
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bioticprosethk: what do you mean?02:47
chuckypChm0d, its there package name is build-essential02:47
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sethkbioticpro, the available space on any storage device is always smaller than the raw capacity02:48
chuckypmerlin, just search don't read throught he whole thing.02:48
Seeker2599i download and install it with add/remove and after installing i cant find it02:48
BHSPitLappybionoid, I think it's a general measurement inconsistency between those who sell media and computers02:48
sethkbioticpro, in this case you may also be running into the *1000 instead of *1024 issue.02:48
BHSPitLappydoes that make sense02:48
sethkBHSPitLappy, not the way you said it, but what you meant makes sense.02:48
sethk:)02:48
BHSPitLappyhehe02:49
chuckypshawncm217, i'm not sure which app to use though I know their are several perhaps search the forums.  People usually post their experiences there.02:49
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Chm0dhmm chuckyp i try to apt-get install build-essential and im not gettin it02:49
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mcphail!info build-essential02:49
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB02:49
BHSPitLappysethk, I prefer to cram the most amount of meaning into the least amount of words... sometimes it confuses people ;)02:49
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KingLearSeveas , that link did not help me .. :(02:50
BadRabbit320!logs02:50
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bioticproseth: so if I have a original dvd that says the size is 4.4GB (4,672,000,000) , that means it doesn't need to be shrunk to fit on a single layer disk02:50
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Chm0dhmm i alreayd  have build essential installed02:50
sethkKingLear, after installing, you have to do (in a shell) hash -r02:50
jdolanhi Chm0d02:50
bioticprosethk: G'day yall, q: if blank dvds are 4.7GB capacity, why do all the ripping programs have the default image size set to 4.4GB?02:50
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sethkKingLear, the path is cached02:50
Seeker2599i downloaded and installed avidemux with add/remove and after installing i cant find it02:50
bioticprooops02:50
Chm0dwhat do i need to install to build quetoo?02:50
Chm0doh hey j02:50
Chm0dLOL02:50
jdolan:)02:50
Chm0dim trying02:51
chuckypChm0d, then you have all the compiliers02:51
bioticprosethk: so if I have a original dvd that says the size is 4.4GB (4,672,000,000) , that means it doesn't need to be shrunk to fit on a single layer disk02:51
jdolanchuckyp, he needs x11 headers, alsa headers, sdl headers, ..02:51
maswanbioticpro: the first is GB as 10^9, the second GB as 2^3002:51
Chm0dwhat about headers for sdl glx and alsa?02:51
KingLearpardon, sethk? I mean after installing gcc I have to do that? ( hash -r)02:51
sethkbioticpro, yes, that's correct.02:51
bioticpromaswan: ok...02:51
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sethkKingLear, yes, if you are trying to compile within a shell02:51
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sethkKingLear, that tells the shell to throw away its cached path info and look for any program you try to run.02:52
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snoopsthe second GB maswan refers to is otherwise known as GiB - GibiByte02:52
Davey*sigh* I broke stuff :/02:52
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sethkKingLear, for obvious reasons the shell doesn't want to do that search every time you execute a command.02:52
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sethkDavey, then fix stuff02:52
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chuckypjdolan, perhaps you can tell him how to install them.02:53
DaveyI edited my /etc/hosts to change the hostname, and uh, sudo doesn't work anymore :(02:53
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sethkDavey, that's not the only place where the host name appears02:53
Seeker2599i downloaded and installed avidemux with add/remove and after installing i cant find it02:53
sethkDavey, for the moment, just do:    hostname new-name02:53
Daveysethk: I know...02:53
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KingLearsethk, when I do the command dpkg -i gcc-4.0.* it is installed, no error out out is seen,02:53
sethkDavey, at the prompt, then try sudo again from that prompt02:53
Chm0dchuckyp: he isn't familiar with ubuntu thats what he is in here as well :")02:53
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Daveysethk: I can't.... need root to do that :/02:53
chuckypSeeker2599, perhaps its not a gui program and it needs to be launched fromt he terminal?02:53
sethkDavey, no you don't02:54
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KingLearbut when I try to install the drivers for the PCtel modem, the eror says, no gcc found02:54
sethkDavey, well, yes, in some cases you might02:54
Seeker2599where would it have ben installed to?02:54
KingLearsethk what could be the problem?02:54
sethkDavey, boot the rescue cd02:54
jdolanChm0d, sudo apt-get install libxxf86misc-dev libxxf86vm-dev02:54
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sethkKingLear, I've told you that several times.02:54
chuckypChm0d, did you try apt-cache search "whatever"     no quotes of course but to possibly find the packages you are looking for.02:54
sethkKingLear, specifically, tell me what you are doing.02:54
jdolan(maybe, just found it googling for 'ubuntu' and header filenames)02:54
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sethkchuckyp, you can use the quotes there, they don't hurt anything02:55
KingLearsethk I am sure you must have toldme,02:55
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KingLearbut I unable to get that..02:55
Seeker2599chuckyp: where would it have been installed to?02:55
Daveysethk: I can reboot from the GUI, after that, will it work? I modified /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts02:55
concept10how do I get by a package that will not install?  In this case, samba.. it has ruined my dist-upgrade02:55
sethkKingLear, ok, tell me what you are doing, specifically.02:55
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KingLearsethk , I am trying to install the drivers of a PCtel micromode,02:55
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KingLearwhen i give the command ./setup02:55
sethkDavey, it might, or it might bite you because of the inconsistency.  but you have nothing to lose, worst case is you boot the rescue cd anyway02:55
chuckypSeeker2599, well you could type which "nameofprogram"   that will show you where its installed at.02:55
KingLearit says gcc not found02:55
Chm0dchuckyp: yea iv actually installed what I think i need02:55
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Chm0dthanks very much02:56
chuckypSeeker2599, but try opening a terminal and just tyeping the name of the app.02:56
Chm0dfor your time02:56
sethkKingLear, ok, at that prompt, type     hash -r02:56
Seeker2599ok02:56
KingLearsethk I can swear that i Hvae installed gcc-4.002:56
sethkKingLear, then, at the same prompt, type     which gcc02:56
KingLearall packages came in the 6.06 cd02:56
KingLear:(02:56
chuckypChm0d, np I just found a post int he forums about quetoo also.02:56
sethkKingLear, yes, three times was enough  times to say you have gcc02:56
jdolanChm0d, sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev02:56
jmichaelxare there any cups wizards in here? i am trying to configure this PC as a print server.... but when i 'lpq' from a client machine, i get 'no default destination available'. the machine with the printer is kubuntu edgy, the client machine is running kubuntu dapper (i hope it is ok to ask in this room!)02:56
sethkKingLear, try those two commands, at the _same_ shell prompt, and tell me what happens.02:56
Chm0dk thx jdolan02:56
jdolanseems to be several packages for ubuntu that have at one time or another provided those headers :-/02:57
KingLearI will have to DC, coz I am using a dual boot,02:57
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KingLearsethk thanx aloyt for your help..02:57
KingLearalot*02:57
sethkKingLear, ok.  to do this rebooting between each step is going to be very painful.02:57
mcphailKingLear: no point rebooting to test the command02:57
KingLearso what shallI do?02:57
sethkmcphail, no, he means he's in windows02:57
Chm0dwhat do i need to install to build quetoo?02:58
sethkKingLear, no choice, really, but it will be painful.02:58
KingLearsethk :)02:58
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Squirrelswere are the themes for gnome located02:58
rredd4trying to remove slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb, when i type "apt-get remove slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb" it says it cannot find it.  I can go into /var/cache/apt/archives and find it via cd command, the package is broken.  how do i remove it?02:58
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Chm0doopd02:58
Chm0dLOL02:58
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jdolanwrong window for the UP arrow? ;)02:58
mcphailsethk: yes - but booting back into ubuntu will open a new bash session, so no need for the hash -r02:58
Chm0dwhere is that post at chuckyp02:58
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chuckyprredd4, dpkg -r nameofdeb.deb02:58
sethkmcphail, oh, that's true, yes.02:58
rredd4ok02:58
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sethkmcphail, but it won't hurt.  :)02:58
mcphailsethk: :)02:59
Seeker2599does anyone know of an avi splitter besides avidemux02:59
Squirrelswere can i find the folders for the themes and colors for gnome?02:59
BHSPitLappywhy would another one need to even exist, Seeker259902:59
KingLearanyways, Guys, Thamx alot...02:59
mick_i am trying to run beryl on an ati 9800pro and i got everything installed seemingly correctly from the installation page of the wiki, but when i start up the xgl session alls i get is a white cube02:59
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mcphailKingLear: have you tried "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?02:59
Seeker2599because mine wont install correctly!!02:59
chuckyp!xgl > mick_02:59
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chuckypmick_, xgl suport is in #ubuntu-sgl02:59
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chuckypmick_, err #ubuntu-xgl02:59
KingLearthat darned modem is the only way I could be ableto do apt-get at all, sethk03:00
KingLear:(03:00
cd32fanhi03:00
mick_oops, thanks03:00
Seeker2599i have downloaded it 3 time and it wont show up03:00
KingLearwhat is build-essential sethk?03:00
mcphailKingLear: i think that build-essential and all the needed packages are on the cd03:00
chuckypSeeker2599, did you try typing its name at terminal?  and where are you downloading it?03:00
KingLearyes, build-essential is there03:00
Seeker2599i downloaded it from the add remove thingy03:00
Seeker2599and yes i did03:00
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jmichaelxis there a cups room?03:01
cmathesonwhat programs can view a multi-page tiff file?03:01
chuckypSeeker2599, what happened when you typed avidemeux in terminal?03:01
sethkKingLear, build-essential is a meta package which includes the compiler and make and other build tools.  But I didn't say that, someone else did.03:01
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mcphailKingLear: if you install that package, it will install several packages needed for compilation03:01
jmichaelxor ubuntu cups? :-D03:01
Seeker2599bash: command not found03:01
chuckypSeeker2599, go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install avidemux03:01
KingLearoh mcphail, sorry, I couldnt note that it was you, so I try installing that now?03:01
chuckypSeeker2599, then see if its there.03:01
Seeker2599ok03:02
sethkKingLear, not if you already installed it.03:02
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KingLearwill it also solve the dpendency problem between libstdc6 and g++?03:02
sethkKingLear, which is it?  either you installed it, or you didn't.03:02
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KingLearI didnt03:02
mcphailKingLear: if you have not installed it already, then install it now03:02
sethkKingLear, there isn't a dependency _problem_03:02
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sethkKingLear, what did you see that makes you think there is a dependency problem?03:02
KingLearsethk I thought I shouldnt mess around with the packages I dont know about, sethk03:03
KingLear:(03:03
rredd4chuckyp  typed dpkg -r  slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb  got this error:  dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in03:03
sethkKingLear, well, ok, but having a dependency isn't a problem.03:03
AsheDis it possible to change the name that Ubuntu appends to linked files?03:03
KingLearbecuase installing either of libstdc6 and g++ says that the other package is not present03:03
sethkAsheD, hm?  there is nothing appended to a linked file.03:03
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mcphailKingLear: are you installing with dpkg or apt-get? You need to use apt-get03:03
Seeker2599it says: avidemux is already the newest version03:04
sethkKingLear, do you mean you can't install?03:04
imperfect-Anyone here know how I can get lilo installed using a live cd?03:04
KingLearYes03:04
AsheDwhen I create a link, it creates a new file called "link to <filename>", can I edit that?03:04
sethkKingLear, try doing what mcphail suggested:    sudo apt-get install build-essential03:04
KingLearOkay03:04
KingLearI will do that03:04
KingLearsethk since I have only this option left with right now..03:04
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KingLearbuild-essential is in CD03:04
KingLearand will try that03:05
KingLearThanx anyway03:05
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KingLearI will try to save the out put for future refrence..03:05
KingLear:(03:05
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Seeker2599 it says: avidemux is already the newest version, now what?03:05
KingLearBye all... sethk, mcphail, Thanx03:05
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rredd4typed dpkg -r  slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb  got this error:  dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in03:06
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Squirrelshow do i run a .rpm03:06
chuckypSeeker2599, now type in avidemux03:06
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sethkSquirrels, you don't.03:06
chuckyp!alien > Squirrels03:06
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sethkSquirrels, a .rpm is an install file for the RPM package manager03:07
chuckypSquirrels, what program are you trying to install?03:07
sethkSquirrels, you can possibly use it with alien, but this is very dangerous03:07
Seeker2599bash: avidemux: command not found03:07
sethkSquirrels, you should find an install for ubuntu if at all possible03:07
anthonycmister patrick volkerding uses an rpm spec file to compile mozilla03:07
sethkSeeker2599, you can say that a few hundred more times, it says nothing.03:07
chuckypSeeker2599, hold on let me check something03:07
sethkSeeker2599, you can search for the file.  if, in fact, that is a program name.03:07
chuckypSeeker2599, what is the response of which avidemux03:08
rredd4chuckyp  dpkg -r ....  did not work  says i need to specify package by its own name, not the name of the file...  ??03:08
chuckyprredd4, dpkg -r slocate03:09
chuckyprredd4, dunno why you want to remove that though.03:09
rredd4its broken03:09
sethkthere is no such file as avidemux, unless it is very new.03:09
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chuckyprredd4, did you try apt-get reinstall slocate03:09
rredd4no03:09
rredd4i will03:09
chuckypsethk, Its int he repos03:09
chuckyp!info avidemux03:09
ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2607 kB, installed size 6756 kB03:10
sethkchuckyp, ok.03:10
sethkchuckyp, he downloaded a package file from somewhere?03:10
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Seeker2599i got it from the add/remove thing03:10
sethkchuckyp, no, according to that info you just provoked, it is indeed in the repositories03:10
chuckypsethk, he installed from repos but now he can't figure out how to run it.03:10
chuckypSeeker2599, what did which avidemux      say?03:10
Seeker2599it doesnt show up03:10
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sethkSeeker2599, do a find for it.      Or, run sudo updatedb,  then do a locate for it.03:11
tsoleremerald are u here?03:11
chuckypSeeker2599, "which avidemux"   no quotes in terminal03:11
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Seeker2599it doesnt say anything03:12
chuckypSeeker2599, it just went back to prompt?03:12
sethkSeeker2599, not possible03:12
Seeker2599yes03:12
sethkSeeker2599, it can say "avidemux not found"03:12
sethkSeeker2599, but it can't do nothing.03:12
Seeker2599it didnt say anything03:12
mcphailsethk: not true03:12
sethkmcphail, sure it's true, I just tried it.03:12
rredd4chuckyp  dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove slocate which isn't installed.    also got this   apt-get reinstall slocate    E: Invalid operation reinstall03:12
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mcphailsethk: so did i03:12
leetcharmerif I want to select all files that end in .avi in a folder w/ nautilus -- how do I do that?03:13
sethkmcphail, oh, you are using a broken bash, sorry03:13
chuckyprredd4, sudo aptitude reinstall slocate03:13
sethkmcphail, I forget that bug.03:13
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mcphailsethk: he was responding to the "which avidemux", not your suggestion for find or locate03:13
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chuckypSeeker2599, hold on let me try installing it and seeing what the deal is.03:13
nukeslioni cant find w32codecs, but im pretty sure my repositories are working right, is there a trick to getting them? (trying to get amarok to play mp3s)03:13
sethkmcphail, yes, of course, I understand that03:13
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Seeker2599where do i find the files downloaded through add/remove?03:14
sethkmcphail, I don't use the shell which says nothing at all for a failed which (which is a bug, if you'll excuse the expression  :)   )03:14
sethkSeeker2599, there is no specific answer, files get installed to lots of places03:14
Seeker2599ok03:14
chuckypSeeker2599, it downloaded a .deb file in apts cache03:14
anthonycleetcharmer, you would add *.avi to the end of your command03:14
sethkSeeker2599, do this:   find / -name avidemux03:14
rredd4chuckyp  what is   Score is -21?03:14
sethkSeeker2599, as root03:14
mcphailsethk: aah. OK. I don't recall bash ever responding to which if the file wasn't present, but that is maybe my bad memory...03:14
leetcharmerwhere do I type that in?03:14
noiesmonukeslion, for amarok and mp3 i did this sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs and used xine engine in amarok03:14
chuckyprredd4, there are dependancy problems aparently if you read the full message?  Why do you assume that slocate is broken?03:15
AsheDwhen I create a link to a file, it creates a new file called "link to <filename>", can I edit that?03:15
nukeslionnoiesmo, alright, i shall try that03:15
sethkmcphail, no, I don't mean that bash ever didn't have the bug, I meant that I don't use bash because it's broken in a number of ways, including that one.03:15
mcphailsethk: :)03:15
tonyyarussoAsheD: Edit how?03:15
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mcphailsethk: ksh?03:15
chuckypSeeker2599, I just installed it and it works fine  It installs in the menus under Applications > Sound & Video > avidemux03:15
Seeker2599its not there for me03:15
chuckypSeeker2599, also launching it from terminal works03:15
nukeslionnoiesmo, Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:15
AsheDtonyyarusso:: like to change the text it adds, or remove it, so its just the same as the file name03:15
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ArrenLex!libxine-extracodecs03:16
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rredd4chuckyp  because when i go to synaptic and click on fix broken package, it hangs on slocate03:16
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB03:16
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chuckypSeeker2599, well sudo apt-get --purge avidemux   then sudo apt-get install avi-demux03:16
jaimiedroletanyone can tell me what those errors mean?03:16
jaimiedrolethttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27730/03:16
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jewbileewould someone mind giving me a step by step install of Flash03:16
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chuckyprredd4, well what does the screen say about it?03:16
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jewbileei cant get it working03:16
chuckyp!flash > jewbilee03:16
noiesmonukeslion, works for me note > Enable the lines which end with 'dapper universe' and 'dapper multiverse'03:16
tonyyarussoAsheD: Is it in the right-click properties perhaps?03:16
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chuckypjewbilee, what version are you trying to install?03:17
leetcharmeranthonyc, where would I type that?03:17
noiesmojewbilee, I download latest flash 9 from abode this morning then extract it and read the txt file it comes with easy to install03:17
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AsheDtonyyarusso:: no?  at least I don't see anything pertaining to that03:17
bazzi'm trying to get samba running on dapper, i've got it installed and running and i've shared a folder, but when i try to connect from my windows machine it gives me a password prompt and nothing seems to log in successfully.  (i've tried my user account and the root account)03:17
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sethkjaimiedrolet, if the thing still runs, you can ignore those errors03:17
chuckyp!samba > bazz03:17
sethkjaimiedrolet, the program is looking for things that don't exist on your box, but that doesn't mean that there is a problem.03:17
bazzchuckyp: thanks, i'll ready that03:18
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cd32fancan anyone tell me the name of a program that streams radio for ubuntu?03:18
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Seeker2599when i try to purge it says E: invalid operation avidemux03:18
chuckypcd32fan, like fm radio?03:18
cd32fanyea03:18
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noiesmojewbilee, heres link http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html03:18
cd32fansomething like that03:18
chuckypcd32fan, did you try doing a search with synaptic for fm??03:18
rredd4cd32fan  streamtuner03:18
mick__!xgl  > mick__03:18
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cd32fanhey that was fast03:19
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cd32fanthanks ;)03:19
tonyyarussoAsheD: Works here...what do you see?03:19
rredd4cd32fan  i use it, needs xmms to hear it03:19
Seeker2599anyone know of another avi splitter besides avidemux03:19
chuckypjewbilee, download that extract and put it in your /usr/lib/firefox/plugins03:19
fatsheepquick q...  in open office when I try to select text with the mouse a lot of times it will only move the cursor, is there a way to get rid of this behaviour?03:20
AsheDtonyyarusso:: I have no problem *creating* the link, I just wanted to know if I can change the default text added to the link name03:20
chuckypjewbilee, restart firefox and flash will be working.03:20
sethkSeeker2599, no, sorry, I'm not really up on those apps.   google doesn't help you?03:20
cd32fanrredd4: i'll try it03:20
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Seeker2599no03:20
tonyyarussoAsheD: You mean the name that shows up in nautilus / on the desktop, right?03:20
AsheDtonyyarusso:: yes03:20
rredd4cd32fan  its not bad03:20
AsheDtonyyarusso:: I know its possible in windows, so I think it would be in Linux as well03:20
bod_what do i have to install to see java content in firefox03:20
chuckypSeeker2599, did you try removing like I told you and reinstall it?  Because I can confirm that it works here.03:20
tonyyarussoAsheD: And if you right click on the file, and select properties, what do you see?03:20
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chuckyp!java > bod_03:21
cd32fanthere's just one thing i still havent managed to install in Ubuntu03:21
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cd32fanthe graphic drivers03:21
chuckypcd32fan, what type of card?03:21
keithhhhcan someone tell me how to run a .jar file?03:21
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Seeker2599when i try to purge it says E: invalid operation avidemux03:21
chuckyp!java > keithhhh03:21
ArrenLexkeithhhh: do you have java insatlled03:21
ArrenLex?03:21
cd32fanchuckyp: the ATI drivers03:21
ArrenLexinstalled **03:21
chuckypSeeker2599, well apt-get remove avidemux03:22
chuckyp!ati > cd32fan03:22
jewbileecan anyone help me?  im at gnashs website and i can find the download link ^^;;03:22
cd32fanchuckyp: 9600 series03:22
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AsheDtonyyarusso:: I seem info about the file, but nothing pertaining to links, unless you are referring to the link file itself, then I can see its name, location, what it links to, etc, but that still doesn't answer my question03:22
chuckypjewbilee, ahh you want to install gnash.   I think they use cvs.03:22
ArrenLexjewbilee: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading03:22
jewbilee...?03:22
jewbileeuhhh03:22
chuckypjewbilee, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading03:22
jewbileehmmm03:23
chuckypArrenLex, argh you beet me.03:23
jewbileegimme a sec03:23
jewbileeill probably be back with another question03:23
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joevandykI've got a Dell laptop with an extra VGA thing in the back of it.  How do I get that to work with ubuntu?03:23
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ArrenLexjewbilee: you're going to have to use cvs to get gnash.03:23
chuckypjewbilee, well you have two choices basically gnash or adobes version of flash.03:23
nukeslionnoiesmo, thanks, its working ^__^ <303:23
ArrenLexjwebilee: I warn you gnash is of little interest to anyone but developers right now.03:23
chuckypjoevandyk, plug a monitor in to it.03:23
tonyyarussoAsheD: And the name is "link to whatever", right?03:23
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noiesmonukeslion, np :)03:23
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joevandykchuckyp: don't I need to modify xorg.conf?03:23
mcruzhello03:23
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AsheDtonyyarusso:: yes, and my question was how to change the default, so I don't have to manually change it each time03:23
jewbileeArrenLex: what would you recommend?03:24
mcruzany script-people here??03:24
Seeker2599ok it removed it now how do i get it again lol03:24
tonyyarussoAsheD: Ah, I see now.03:24
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ArrenLexjewbilee: to watch flash movies, only the official adobe plugin is useable right now.03:24
chuckypjoevandyk, you can't do a dual display if thats what you are asking.  I believe on most laptops its either using that or the screen?03:24
chuckypjoevandyk, and that is controlled usually by a function key or in the bios.03:24
jewbileeArrenLex: how do i get that to work?03:24
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ArrenLexjewbilee: by downloading it and putting the library into ~/.mozilla.plugins03:24
ArrenLex ~/.mozilla/plugins **03:24
jewbileeuse Synaptics?03:25
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jewbileeor from their website03:25
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tsoleremerald03:25
chuckypArrenLex, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  would be better because that would be a system wide change instead of for just his user.03:25
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jewbileeim still confused as to how to botain it03:25
ArrenLexjewbilee: if you're fine with Flash 7, you can use synaptic. If you want Flash 9, you'll have to download it from the adobe website.03:25
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jewbileeobtain*03:25
CientificoLocohello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?03:25
CientificoLocohello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?03:25
CientificoLocohello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?03:26
chuckypjewbilee, http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/03:26
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CientificoLocohello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?03:26
ArrenLexjewbilee: just download this file to ~/.mozilla/plugins : http://arrenlex.diff.be/libflashplayer.so03:26
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totall_6_7CientificoLoco: if someone has an answer they will answer there is no need to flood the room03:27
ArrenLex!repeat > CientificoLoco03:27
jewbileethanks chuckyp, ill let you know how it goes03:27
jester45i have 2 questions the first is do you need power management if your on a desktop and the second is if i have a video card and an integrated one can i use both ? will they have the same display? diffrent? same but the integrated slower?03:27
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CientificoLocohello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?03:27
chuckypCientificoLoco, stop flooding03:27
jester45CientificoLoco: you could use ripperx03:27
chuckyp!patience > CientificoLoco03:28
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jewbileechuckup: how do i install the downloaded tar.gz file?03:28
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chuckypjester45, you could use both if you have 2 montors sure03:28
ArrenLexjewbilee: just download this file to ~/.mozilla/plugins : http://arrenlex.diff.be/libflashplayer.so03:28
foo1911hi guys I've got a question, I'm currently running Ubuntu 5.1, is it safe and will it work as good as a clean install of 6.x if I update it with the update manager?03:28
coldsoulhi! examinig my syslogs I found an error: Oct 22 03:25:38 localhost kernel: [17185098.328000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking pcie memory !03:28
tonyyarussoAsheD: I'm going to guess that you can do it by adding a key under apps > nautilus > preferences in gconf, I'm just not sure what the key should be.03:28
coldsouldoes anyone know how to fix this?03:28
jewbileeArren: is that flash 9?03:29
chuckypfoo1911, it should but I would backup any data that is important first.03:29
jester45chuckyp: what will happen03:29
ArrenLexjewbilee: yes it is.03:29
john053how difficult to load ubuntu along with xp?03:29
Seeker2599w00t!!!03:29
foo1911thanks :)03:29
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jewbileeArren: alright, ill ask for help if i need it when the download it finished03:29
foo1911john053, not at all difficult if you're using VMware imo03:29
Seeker2599it worked!!!03:29
poningruColdFyre: whats wrong?03:30
chuckypjester45, Well you could span your desktop over two monitors or you could clone the desktop so that both display the same?  Its up to you?03:30
Seeker2599ty for everyones help!03:30
poningruoh03:30
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chuckypSeeker2599, what'd you have to do?03:30
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jester45chuckyp: so i could have cube on the newer card and as irc on the older03:30
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chuckypSeeker2599, to get it working.03:30
chuckypjester45, cube?03:30
Seeker2599i used apt-get to remove it then i reinstalled03:30
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jester45chuckyp: its a fps03:31
Seeker2599it wasnt working when i used the add/remove thingy03:31
chuckypSeeker2599, cool yeah I don't know why it got messed up.03:31
chuckypjester45, yes you could do that.03:31
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SpudDoggDoes anyone know of a really good GUI newsleecher program?03:31
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quintinWhat do I put in /etc/sudoers to not have a password03:31
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Seeker2599thanks chuckyp03:31
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sethkquintin, there is a NOPASSWD modifier03:32
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coldsoulhi! examinig my syslogs I found an error: Oct 22 03:25:38 localhost kernel: [17185098.328000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking pcie memory !03:32
chuckypjester45, do people actually play cube?03:32
coldsouldoes anyone know how to fix this?03:32
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jester45chuckyp: well its cube2 now03:32
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sethkcoldsoul, that doesn't mean much, except that the fglrx coders are very sloppy03:32
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chuckypjester45, is it online?03:32
jester45chuckyp: yes it has ingame map making03:33
coldsoulsethk: is this a problem? I mean the error..03:33
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chuckypjester45, no I mean online multiplayer03:33
sethkcoldsoul, unlikely to be a problem.03:33
poningrucoldsoul: not sure pcie is supported under the kernel yet03:33
poningruI know its experimental in gentoo03:33
quintinsethk: I'm aware.  Where do I put it.03:33
coldsoulthanks guys..03:33
jester45chuckyp: you fly around the map adding stuff its also very small on requirements i get about 130 fps03:33
coldsoulI hope it will be ok in the new ubuntu version03:34
jester45chuckyp: yes people play online03:34
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sethkquintin, on the line for the user you want to modify03:34
AsheDis there a way to search inside files?03:34
chuckypjester45, I'll have to check it out.03:34
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cd32fanwhat are the best games for ubuntu?03:34
sethkquintin, after the install, you should have at least one example of it in the sudoers file03:34
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quintinsethk: syntax error.  I have no users, only root.  you're gonna have to hold my hand here, as new way is pam and that's all I know :P03:34
jester45cd32fan: what kind of games03:35
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sethkquintin, root is a user03:35
quintinsethk: NOPASSWD on that line sez syntax error03:35
sethkquintin, and root should already be in the sudoers file.  if it isn't, the line is:03:35
cd32fanadventure,rpg03:35
sethkquintin, yes, you have to put it in the right place.  hold on:03:35
cd32fanjester45:games like that03:35
sethkquintin,     root       ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL03:35
quintinsethk: think I got it... (...ALL,NOPASSWD...) didn't give syntact error...03:36
quintinsethk: oh hmmmmmm ok03:36
bsdjunkie%wheel ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL03:36
quintinsethk: know offhand what 'forget password' command to sudo is so I can test03:36
jewbileeArren: in the /.mozilla/ folder03:36
cd32fanjester45:are there any?03:36
jewbileethere isnt a plugin folder03:36
jester45cd32fan: i dont know of any games you can try www.hardwareforums.com and look inside the linux/non-MS forums03:36
bod_where do i put libflashplayer.so03:36
jester45cd32fan: there is a sticky for linux games03:36
jewbileeyea, same questions as bod_, where does libflashplayer.so go?03:37
cd32fansticky?03:37
sethkquintin, any command03:37
jester45cd32fan: a forums post that cant be deleted03:37
bod_ArrenLex: libflashplayer.so wheres it go03:37
cd32fanjester45: got it03:37
ArrenLexjewbilee: you can try installing it for all users in the system by putting it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/03:37
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jester45cd32fan: i will be at the top of the linux section03:37
jewbileesays i dont have permission to write03:38
ArrenLexjewbilee: you'll have to use sudo to write there.03:38
jewbilee?03:38
ArrenLexjewbilee: where is the file now?03:38
jewbileehow do you do that03:38
ArrenLexBy magic.03:38
jewbileedesktop03:38
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ArrenLexJewbilee: do you know how to open a terminal?03:38
jewbileeyea03:38
jester45jewbilee: type sudo thunar03:38
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jester45jewbilee: if thats what you use03:39
ArrenLexJewbilee: do you know how to find your desktop from the terminal?03:39
ala-vani am trying to mount an external usb drive... i used sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/myusb but that would only give root permission to use.  how can i can permission for everyone to use it?03:39
jewbileeyea03:39
ArrenLexjewbilee: open a terminal. Find your desktop.03:39
sethkala-van, depends on the file system.  look at the uid= and gid= options for mount.03:39
jewbileeok03:39
ArrenLexjewbilee: then, run this command: "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/"03:39
jewbileeim there03:39
ala-vanit is ext303:39
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jewbileeahh03:39
jewbileeok03:39
jewbileenice03:39
jester45ArrenLex: you could give the file manager (i think) sudo rights so you could drag drop the file03:39
jewbileelets see if it worked03:39
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jewbileehmm03:40
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jewbileeyoutube still says i dont have flashplayer03:40
JaredI know this is a stupid question, but how do you get the tracan icon on your desktop03:40
Jaredtrashcan*03:40
ArrenLexjester: yes. But I think that would confuse him more.03:40
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ArrenLexJewbilee: restart firefox.03:40
ala-vani just want to use it as a regular disk drive with no root access03:40
jewbileei did03:40
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sethkala-van, if it's ext3, you can change the permissions and/or ownership.03:41
jester45jared no such thing03:41
sethkala-van, use    chown -R         or chmod -R03:41
ArrenLexjewbilee: browse to about:plugins in firefox. Copy all that information and paste it to pastebin. Give me the link.03:41
jester45i think03:41
quilzoanyone which packages I should download to set-up a lisp-environment ?03:41
ArrenLex!pastebin03:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:41
yipehow can I change which version of java I'm using? I have sun java installed but blackdown is the default03:41
Jaredjester45, i had it before i reinstalled03:41
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jewbileeoh wait03:42
jewbileei got it03:42
jester45Jared: i guess there is one03:42
ala-vanis this right ? sudo chmod go+x /media/myusb03:42
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jewbileei needed to sudo it into the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins folder03:42
jewbileenot mozilla03:42
ArrenLexI see.03:42
ArrenLexWeird.03:42
ArrenLexWell, as long as it works.03:42
jewbileeyup03:42
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AsheDanybody know how to edit the default "link to " text that creating a link to a file adds to the filename?03:42
jewbileewould you mind explaining the folder layout for me Arren03:42
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jester45ArrenLex: just tell him to use sudo file manager03:42
jewbileelike.. /usr/03:42
jewbileeand /lib and stuff03:43
sethkala-van, if you only want users to be able to see the names, but not access the files03:43
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jewbileeim new to linux, dont understand the file system yet03:43
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yipehow do you change which version of java you're using?03:43
cafuegojewbilee: /lib, /bin and /sbin for system stuff03:43
ArrenLexjewbilee: in windows, all physical divisions (a different drive, a different partition) is also a logical partition (a c: drive, a d: drive, etc). Yes?03:43
clustyis there a ubuntu libcss package?03:43
cafuegojewbilee: /usr/* for userspace stuff03:43
ala-vansethk:  then how to give them read right?03:43
jewbileeyea03:43
ArrenLexlogical partition -> logical division03:43
jewbileeyup03:43
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jewbileeok03:44
cafuegojewbilee: /var for files that change (logs, cache, etc)03:44
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sethkala-van, (with the thing mounted):   chmod -R g+r /whatever/usb03:44
cafuegojewbilee: /home/* for each user, /root  is home for root user.03:44
sethkala-van, the g is for group, is that what you meant?03:44
JDStoneanyone have smartmontools working on Ubuntu with SATA drives?03:44
sethkala-van, a+r is give read to all03:44
cafuegoJDStone: mine work fine03:44
ArrenLexjewbilee: on Linux, there are no logical divisions. There is a filesystem that looks like a tree. The trunk of this tree is the start of the filesystem, the folder "/". There is nothing higher than this folder. Everything is inside this folder. It is the "root" of the system.03:44
jewbileealright03:44
yipeso um, changing the default java?03:45
cafuegojewbilee: The real reason this stuff is separated out under / is so it can be put on seperate partitions and/or disks.03:45
ArrenLexInside this folder are other folders. /bin stores important system binaries. /etc stores important system configurations. /lib stores important system libaries.03:45
Hydrais there a manual installation procedure somewhere that i can read for edgyeft ?03:45
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cd32fanjester45: very nice forum03:46
clustyhow can i get encrypted DVD playing support for ubuntu?03:46
ArrenLexThere is also a folder called /usr. This stores less important files -- files the user will use. There is a /usr/bin folder, where almost all your binaries are. There is a /usr/lib folder, where all the libraries they need are.03:46
balayhashiany one here knows anything about vlc and subtitles with accentuated characters in ubuntu? I know that ubuntu open's save's all files in UTF-8 , but that doesn't mean that the program's I run in it does the same right?03:46
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cd32fanhttp://www.hardwareforums.com/essential-linux-n-bs-14720/03:46
jewbileeis a program like firefox considered a library?03:46
ArrenLexThere is also a /home folder. Inside this folder is a folder for each user. This is where all the stuff that belongs to you goes.03:46
ArrenLexjewbilee: no, a binary.03:46
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jewbileeok03:46
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ArrenLexjewbilee: library = like .dll. Binary = like .exe.03:46
jewbileeahhhh03:47
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jewbileeok03:47
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jewbileeso the actuall firefox binary is seperated from its libraries?03:47
yipejewbilee run "man hier" in a terminal and it will explain everything03:47
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ala-vanwhat i want is that i can mount the usb drive, and then let everyone who uses my computer read and write to it, without going root.  everyone has their own account03:47
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poningrujewbilee: what are you trying to do?03:47
ArrenLexjewbilee: /tmp is the temporary folder. Every time you restart your computer, this gets wiped clean. Programs and users put temporary files here if they need to.03:47
okapihello to all03:48
jewbileeponingru: learning about the filersystem03:48
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poningrujust trying to learn?03:48
poningrucool03:48
sethkala-van, then do:   chmod -R a+rwx /mnt/whatever03:48
yipeplease, this is driving me mad, how do you change your java version?03:48
poningruthats always teh best03:48
ArrenLexjewbilee: every folder and file has "permissions" which tell Linux who is and who is not allowed to read\write\execute it.03:48
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okapiI have a problem with samba and swat. Anyone can help?03:48
poningru!alternative03:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
poningru!java03:48
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:48
sethkala-van, that will give the entire tree read, write, execute for all.  that's normally not a great idea, but as long as you know the issues it's ok.03:48
ArrenLexjewbilee: by default: a regular user can write only to his home directory and to /tmp. He can read almost everything else.03:48
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colin_How can I change the login screen between the Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu screens?03:48
JDStone!Multiverse03:48
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:48
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ArrenLexjewbilee: this is safe. If a user downloads a virus, or if he accidentally runs a command to delete everything, or something like that, it will only affect his files, not hose the system.03:49
JDStone!easysource03:49
bod_yipe: did you uninstall the ver you have and then install the ver you want03:49
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:49
yipeno, I already have sun java and blackdown java installed03:49
jewbileeok03:49
yipeI just need to change the default version03:49
jewbileebut sudo i guess gives temporary root status03:49
poningruyipe:   update-java-alternatives -l03:49
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Ropechoborra!upgrade03:49
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:49
Ropechoborra!distupgrade03:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
_ph00what is vmnet? I never saw this before: Firestarter shows two vmnet connection, vmnet1 and vmnet8, both inactive, and I'm getting a lot of connections attempt on port 16058 UDP, blocked by iptables as firestarter shows: I'm not running any p2p app ATM, and I'm behind a NAT03:50
Ropechoborra!distroupgrade > Ropechoborra03:50
ArrenLexjewbilee: if you need to install a program, obviously you're going to have to put files in places other than a home directory. For this, you need to be "root" user. The root user can do ANYTHING. That's why you should never use a root account as your main account. If you screw something up, it's very very bad.03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distroupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
mcphail_ph00: i presume you have installed vmware?03:50
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_ph00I have just finished installing Ubuntu, btw, I switched back after trying another couple od dostros03:50
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okapiSamba error 10203:50
ArrenLexjewbilee: ubuntu uses "sudo" to give you temporary root status, yes, when you need it. That's why all your commands for installing programs and things need root.03:50
jewbileeok03:50
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ArrenLexjewbilee: external devices, too, are not seen as their own drives, but are mounted into the filesystem tree. For example, your CDROM can usually be found at /mnt/cdrom.03:51
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ala-vansethk:  thats what i need for now.  thanks a bunch, it worked like a charm :)03:51
okapiAnyone can help about samba generate status 102?03:51
jewbileeok03:51
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sethkala-van, np03:51
ArrenLex /mnt is the folder where external devices are usually mounted. But you can mount them anywhere you want to.03:51
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ArrenLexSorry, I lie. /media is that folder.03:51
jewbileehaha03:51
jewbileeok03:51
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_ph00mcphail, well, OK then it's normal. I don't know exactly what wmware does but I heard ythat name many times, so I thought I should try iot out. Well, I know one thing now, it creates a couple of connections03:51
colin_I installed the xubuntu-desktop package, and then removed it, but the login screen is still for Xubuntu.  How do I get it back to the normal Ubuntu screen?03:52
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mcphail_ph00: yes. Don't worry about them03:52
_ph00and what are all those connection attempts on 16058?03:52
ArrenLexjewbilee: that was a basic guide. For more information about all this, now that you know how to look at it, try typing "man hier" to read information about the file hierarchy.03:52
jewbileealright03:52
jewbileethanks a lot03:52
jewbileethat really helps03:52
jmitchjhey, i tried to instal fglrx drivers and i can't get into ubuntu anymore...can i restore to the previous state of the system in Recovery mode?03:52
_ph00ok mcphail, thx03:53
ArrenLexjewbilee: note that Linux is case sensitive.. in windows, FIREFOX.EXE and firefox.exe are the same file. On Linux, they are different.03:53
jewbileealright03:53
jewbileethanks03:53
_ph00what about all those connection attempts on 16058? are those also related to vmware?03:53
AsheDbleh, can't find anything on this03:53
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Em3raldjmitchj:  If you made a backup copy of your xorg.conf file, yes.03:54
okapiAnyone know something about status 102 generate by Samba?03:54
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Em3raldoop ... gotta go ... back in a few03:54
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mcphail_ph00: no idea. sorry03:54
_ph00k03:54
jmitchjEm3rald: is it possible that it made a backup as i was going through?03:54
Seeker2599anyone here use avidemux?03:55
hikenbootanyone know why in ubuntu i am unable to get direct rendering on my nvidia video card working. It seems to be a rights issue. When I log into the console as  root and startx direct rendering is enabled but not as a normal user...any ideas?03:56
hikenbootnormal user thru gdm that is03:56
imperfect-Anyone know how I can fix a GRUB 21 error?03:57
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sethkimperfect-, I think that's a config file syntax error03:59
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sethkimperfect-, no03:59
sethkimperfect-, it's selected disk does not exist03:59
sethkimperfect-, which is a config file error, but not a synatx error03:59
imperfect-sethk: It's GRUB not being able to find the device... the only solution is to get lilo installed and I can't seem to get a image to work03:59
imperfect-sethk: It's not a config file error in this case.04:00
sethkimperfect-, did you check your grub device table?04:00
nocotigoanyone know how to get a sata dvd burner working?04:00
imperfect-sethk: this is a known issue with my hardware. ;)04:00
Seeker2599does anyone here use  avidemux04:00
imperfect-sethk: P965 Based devices.. justtrying to figure out how to get from LiveCD install -> lilo install04:00
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sethkimperfect-, I was talking about getting grub to work, not lilo04:01
sethkimperfect-, did you check your grub device map?04:01
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imperfect-sethk: Grub has issues with this chipset.04:01
imperfect-sethk: the solution according to the forums is to get lilo installed04:01
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hobbsHow do I mount my NTFS drive as read only04:02
sethkimperfect-, ok, if you don't want to try to fix it, then use lilo I guess04:02
nocotigohobbs, wont it be read-only as long as you aren't using captive?04:02
hobbsuh04:02
hobbsI don't know04:02
bod_  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only04:02
nocotigohobbs: it should be read-only anyway04:02
hobbsthank you bod_04:02
bod_np04:03
imperfect-sethk: Good god.04:03
imperfect-sethk: The forums say GRUB has issues with this chipset.04:03
sethkimperfect-, yes, I'm not deaf, the forums are wrong04:03
Seeker2599does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?04:03
sethkimperfect-, plus, you said lilo isn't working for you, so I thought we would try to fix grub04:03
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imperfect-sethk: Well I'm at a loss cuz it just said GRUb loading stage 1.5 and error 2104:03
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imperfect-sethk: lilo works fine when I can get it to install.. but from a live cd install i can't get lilo04:04
imperfect-sethk: from an alternate i got lilo installed and it was all good04:04
imperfect-sethk: but the alternate install was all fucked up04:04
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QuashI'm having an install problem with 6.10 RC.  Is this the place to get suggestions?04:04
sethkimperfect-, what do you mean by "can't get lilo"?04:04
florianhi04:04
nocotigoQuash: what's the install problem04:04
sethkimperfect-, and as I said the forums are wrong about grub, they don't understand the issues.04:05
imperfect-sethk: apt-get doesn't have lilo. and when I chroot into the environment I can't get my netowrk drivers installed etc etc04:05
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QuashEveryone is fine until the GDM login, when screen goes blank.04:05
nocotigoQuash: booting from the livecd?04:05
sethkimperfect-, I'm not sure what you mean by "apt-get doesn't have lilo".  there is a lilo package04:05
imperfect-jesus god.04:06
imperfect-it's not on the install cd04:06
QuashYes, the 386 RC cd.04:06
imperfect-and i dont have network access04:06
sethkimperfect-, well, obviously I'm annoying you somehow, so I'll stop04:06
nocotigoQuash: what's your video card04:06
imperfect-IUt's not you04:06
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imperfect-I'm just frustraed04:06
QuashATI Radeon 9200SE04:06
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imperfect-because i've had this box over a month and i have to use windows04:06
imperfect-;)04:06
nocotigoimperfect-: i'm about to do the same thing because of the dvd burner i bought04:06
andyckerhow are you04:06
nocotigo:(04:06
sethkimperfect-, yes, I know, but perhaps, since I know how to make it work, and you don't, you shouldn't be insulting me and telling me what the forums say.04:06
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QuashHere's the thread on ubuntuforums I started. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28111104:07
imperfect-sethk: what you are not grasping is that there is no way for me to edit anything with grub  because there's not even a way for me to get a grub boot prompt04:07
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JaredI tried to install the frostwire .deb package and i got this jared@jared-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb04:07
Jaredsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 21 21:41:22 200604:07
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bkudriai'm trying to install a new versiopn of alsa as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto, but once i install, the boot proccess hangs, and occasionally emits an error that something to the effect of "ata1: command <hex> timeout"...what should i do?04:07
mjbjrTomorrow, I'm scheduled to upgrade a friend from 5.10 to 6.06.1 ... does 6.06.1 handle upgrading gracefully, or should I do a completely new install?  Or should I wait a month for the next version to come out?04:07
andyckerhow are you04:08
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floriancan someone tell me what i have to write in /etc/profile so that java is systemwide known?every time i want to execute a java file ive got a nasty error :(04:08
ArrenLexflorian: "nasty error"?04:08
nocotigoQuash: like some other people on there said, i'd try using the alternate cd04:08
ScurveyFroghello, i'm trying to add windows to my /boot/grub/menu.list. it is on hdc104:09
Quashyes, downloading now.  Never seen this with any Linux distro CD.  Any idea what's going on?04:09
nocotigoflorian: find the PATH variable, and add in the path to the java bin folder04:09
ScurveyFrogwhat lines would I add to menu.lst?04:09
nocotigoQuash: dunno, but that cd has been sketchy for me too04:09
imperfect-sethk: so if you know some superuber cool way04:09
nocotigomaybe an ati driver deal04:09
imperfect-sethk: to get to the boot prompt i'mlistening04:10
tonyyarusso!dualboot | ScurveyFrog04:10
ubotuScurveyFrog: Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot04:10
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Quashalternate 60% downloaded.04:10
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AsheDso I am having a small problem with unicode characters in my mp3 tags, anybody suggest something better?04:10
nocotigobrb, gonna see if irqpoll as a kernel param makes my dvd burner work04:10
nocotigogonna cry if it doesnt04:10
deviosI have a font.fon file, and a font.ttf file.  I'd like to install both fonts on ubuntu, but don't know how, and am finding the google results difficult to understand... gotta be an easy way to do it.  would anyone know an easy way to install and use these fonts?04:11
florianprofile looks atm like this: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun04:12
florianPATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin04:12
florianexport PATH04:12
sethkdevios, ttf fonts are used by putting them in the font server search path04:12
florianwhat else do i need?04:12
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deviossethk: ?04:12
sethkdevios, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and see what the FontPath s are04:12
ScurveyFrogubotu: I've already done exactly what those directions say to do04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about I've already done exactly what those directions say to do - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
ArrenLexflorian: could you actually expand on "nasty error" please?04:12
ScurveyFrogubotu: when I installed Ubuntu, my window's partition was not recognized in GRUB04:12
deviosl04:12
ubotuwhen: minimalistic personal calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 124 kB04:12
ScurveyFrogubotu: so I want to do it manually04:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about so I want to do it manually - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:13
ArrenLexScurveyFrog: you're talking to a robot =P04:13
sethkdevios, /usr/share/fonts/truetype usually have ttf font files in it.04:13
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imperfect-sethk: Any supercool uber way to get a bootprompt?04:13
deviossethk: so just copy the ttf font file into there?04:13
jmitchjhow to i restore to a backup of xorg.conf?04:13
ScurveyFrogArrenLex: apparently04:14
tonyyarussoScurveyFrog: Ah, okay.04:14
tonyyarussoScurveyFrog: So no auto-detect goodness for you, eh?04:14
sethkdevios, yes.  I don't think you need to manually regenerate the font info, I think it's regenerated each time X starts using the font paths.04:14
ScurveyFrogtonyyarusso: nope04:14
tonyyarussoScurveyFrog: 'k.  One sec.04:14
deviosso I need to restart x after copying the font there?04:14
sethkdevios, put it in a directory with other ttf files, not with other types of font files.04:14
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sethkdevios, yes.04:15
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Seeker2599 does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?04:16
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sorush20could someone help please here is the the problem http://pastebin.co.uk/4475, there is a missing version number for a file .. http://pastebin.co.uk/447504:17
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_ph00anyone has some idea about why I'm getting lots oc connection attempts from lots of different IP's tho I'm not running any p2p app, and most weird of all, I'm behind a nat with no forwarded pots, no those connections shouldn't even get that far04:17
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_ph00...with no forwarded poRts *04:18
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sethk_ph00, being behind NAT in and of itself means nothing.  do you mean you are sharing one public IP with multiple private IPs?04:19
tonyyarussoScurveyFrog: Sorry, we're having some technically difficulties with my dual-booting contact having a clue.04:19
ScurveyFrogtonyyarusso: okay04:19
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_ph00sethk, I'm behing a ISP nat, I have no access to the router and can't forward port (I know that sucks... long story) but no one else shares this IP with me04:20
bod_whats the best firewall to use for desktop use04:20
xenophenesScurveyFrog....try putting this in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:21
tonyyarusso!firewall | bod_04:21
ubotubod_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:21
SpudDoggDoes anyone know of a really good GUI newsleecher program?04:21
xenophenestitle Microsoft Windows XP04:21
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_ph00I'm getting really many connection attempts on UDP 16058 from different IP's and I don't know why04:21
xenophenesroot (hd2,0)04:21
xenophenessavedefault04:21
xenophenesmakeactive04:21
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sethk_ph00, port forwarding is only necessary with shared IPs.  being behind a NAT makes absolutely no difference in terms of people making connection attempts.04:21
xenopheneschainloader +104:21
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AsheDwhat character set are mp3 tags in?04:21
god-stud808whats so hot about ubuntu?04:21
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god-stud808I dont think is has a recent kernel does it?04:21
xenophenesthe problem might be (hd2,0)04:21
BRBSHOWERZIts got Catphrases!04:21
god-stud808its deb based eh04:21
sethk_ph00, NAT just translates your outside IP to your inside IP.  It doesn't provide any security.04:22
tonyyarussogod-stud808: Not bleeding edge, no, but newer than Debian.04:22
xenophenesthat assumes you have windows on hdc partion 104:22
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ScurveyFrogxenophenes: yeah, that's exactly what I already put in my menu.lst04:22
_ph00so why can't I listen for inbound connections on bittorrent for example?04:22
_ph00and why I'm getting those connections anyway?04:22
xenophenesis windows on hdc partition 1?04:22
tonyyarussoScurveyFrog: Hers is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27736/04:22
RanbeeSpudDogg: there's pan, don't know how good it is compared to anything else though04:23
ScurveyFrogxenophenes: I have windows mounted at /media/windows, and when I run 'df', it tells me it's at hdc104:23
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sethk_ph00, specifically, it does not block connection attempts.04:23
jewbilee!wine04:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:23
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sethk_ph00, so there is no mystery here.  I've been getting a ton of hack in attempts the past few weeks as well.04:23
xenophenesI wonder if the computer bios is capable of booting off hdc?04:24
SpudDoggRanbee, pan.  ok thanks man.  have you ever used newsleecher for the "unspoken OS"?  if so, how does it compare?04:24
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ScurveyFrogxenophenes: I am able to see everything on my windows partition from ubuntu04:24
xenophenesyeah, but that is because you have it mounted04:24
ScurveyFrogxenophenes: yeah, I was previously booting edgy eft from hdc104:24
jmitchjwould it be a good idea to restore to xorg.conf.original-0?04:24
RanbeeSpudDogg: i think i used grab, or something like that, i forget, it's fairly good, but i don't use it much, so i'm not the person to ask...04:25
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SpudDoggRanbee, ok cool04:25
Ranbeenp04:25
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xenophenesScurveyFrog...sorry...that was my best guess04:26
sorush20hi my pakcage list or status is damaged how to do i fix it?04:26
ScurveyFrogxenophenes: okay, well thanks anyway04:26
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okapiAnyone know something about status 102 generate by Samba?04:26
god-stud808u bung 204:27
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xenophenesCan someone help with a cursor problem...move cursor shows as random pixels04:27
cycomxenophenes: it's not a bug, it's a feature!04:27
cycomxenophenes: actually, I don't know.04:27
rixthHow many bytes are associated with one inode?04:28
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tnnccan someone tell me what might be the best ftp server to add to 6.06 so my users can ftp in04:28
xenophenesI've found reference to the problem, but no solutions04:28
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sethkScurveyFrog, check your grub device map04:28
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mjbjrtnnc: maybe proftpd04:29
Jay2hey, folks04:29
mjbjrTomorrow, I'm scheduled to upgrade a friend from 5.10 to 6.06.1 ... does 6.06.1 handle upgrading gracefully, or should I do a completely new install?  Or should I wait a month for the next version to come out?04:30
Seeker2599 does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?04:30
ScurveyFrogsethk: how?04:30
ScurveyFrogsethk: I was thinking that maybe rootnoverify would work04:30
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sethkScurveyFrog, it's a file in /boot/grub, named device.map.  It maps hdabcd type addresses to (hd#) type addresses04:30
ScurveyFrogsethk: I was about to try it04:31
sethkScurveyFrog, I don't see off hand how rootnoverify would help, but it can't hurt to try it.04:31
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ScurveyFrogsethk: it says hdc is hd104:31
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ScurveyFrogsethk: so I should try (hd1,0)?04:32
sethkScurveyFrog, yes04:32
ScurveyFrogsethk: okay, back in a minute04:32
sethkScurveyFrog, it may be necessary to rewrite grub, but try without first04:32
Seeker2599i guess thats a no04:32
ScurveyFrogsethk: what do you mean by rewrite grub?04:33
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ScurveyFrogsethk: (sorry, I'm not very familiar with grub)04:33
sethkScurveyFrog, write it back onto the mbr.  I do this with the grub utility; some people use grub-install04:33
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ScurveyFrogsethk: okay, I'll try this first, if it doesn't work I'll be back here for more directions04:34
sethkk04:34
rixthfsck is asking me if I want to clear an entire inode, should I say yes or no?04:35
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sethkrixth, not much choice, you have to say yes.  only question is whether you stop, backup, then say yes, or just say yes.04:37
rixthsethk, how many bytes are usually associated with an inode?04:37
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BHSPitLappycan anyone tell me any unbiased info about TGZ vs ZIP vs RAR vs whatever04:37
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rixthBHSPitLappy, I tfind tgz to have the best compression, can't speak for it in other terms04:38
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rixthsethk, if I know the inode number, can I find out what is there?04:39
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BHSPitLappywell, compression ratio is what I'm going by, not efficiency or compression time04:39
FructoseWhat's the best way to install a Radeon X1300 card using Edgy Eft?04:39
sethkrixth, if you don't mind dumping out individual disk sectors and reading hex dumps, you can.04:39
rixth!ati04:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:39
sethkrixth, check whether there is anything to help you in the e2fsprogs package04:39
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rixthsethk, no thanks! Is an inode likely to be 1 mb to 1 gb or just a few bytes?04:40
sethkrixth, certainly no more than 1 mb, probably less04:40
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sethkrixth, I'd have to check to get the numbers, but a relatively small amount04:41
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Fructoserixth:  I don't meet all of the requirements given in that wiki entry04:41
sorush20why does my kded always keep crashing ?04:41
rixthSo I won't be losing like an entire movie or something?04:41
ScurveyFrogsethk: no go04:41
rixthFructose, why not?04:41
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sethkrixth, unlikely04:41
Fructoserixth: When I do glxinfo, I get X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)04:41
sethkScurveyFrog, running grub, doing the root command, then the setup command04:41
rixthFructose, eek not sure, but Edgy Eft is #ubuntu+104:41
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ScurveyFrogsethk: eh?04:41
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simtowerwhat04:43
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tehstevhuh?04:43
Hydraok, now i'm annoyed04:43
Hydradoes anyone have a manual install process for edgy as the gui installer doesn't work for me04:44
tehstevhey all... i have a mounted sshfs connection, but it won't work or unmount.. .i'm getting the error "Transport endpoint is not connected"04:44
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ScurveyFrogsethk: okay, grub is running04:44
ScurveyFrogsethk: I tried to type 'root' and 'setup' but neither command did anything04:45
sethkScurveyFrog, you have to know the rest of the command  :)04:45
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sethkScurveyFrog, I didn't give it to you because I don't know your layout.04:45
sethkScurveyFrog, typical is:    root (hd1,0)           setup(hd0)04:45
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sethkScurveyFrog, which would mean the /dev/hdb1 is the root partition and you are installing to the mbr of /dev/hda04:45
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sethkScurveyFrog, change the numbers to match your installation.04:45
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SAM_themanhow i reconfigure my sound?04:46
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ScurveyFrogsethk: okay, my ubuntu root is hda1, and my windows root is hdc104:46
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sethkScurveyFrog, we don't care about windows for this04:46
sethkScurveyFrog, we care about where the menu.lst file lives04:46
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ScurveyFrogsethk, just ubuntu?04:46
ScurveyFrogsethk: okay04:47
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ScurveyFrogsethk: so hda1 is hd0,104:47
Fleebailey33im having trouble with mac-on-linux. i may sound stupid. it seem to of started. it says darwin kernal version. now what do i do ?04:47
Hydraanyone?04:47
sethkScurveyFrog, hda2 is (hd0,1)04:47
sethkScurveyFrog, and it won't accept the commands without the parens04:47
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sethkScurveyFrog, grub begins at 0, but the /dev/hda notation begins at one04:47
ScurveyFrogsethk, oops, okay (hd0,0)04:47
sethkright04:47
Hydraall i want to do is install ubuntu to a system that has a raid-0 array which appears on /dev/mapper/* after dmraid is installed04:48
sethkScurveyFrog, I'm being bitchy about the syntax because the program is bitchy about the syntax  :)04:48
SAM_themanubotu, sound04:48
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems04:48
ScurveyFrogsethk: so we want: root (hd0,0) setup(hd0)04:48
ScurveyFrogsethk: right?04:48
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ScurveyFrogsethk: and all on one line?04:49
sethkScurveyFrog, no04:49
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sethkScurveyFrog, first the root command on a line by itself04:49
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ScurveyFrogsethk: okay, got it04:49
sethkScurveyFrog, then the setup command on a line by itself04:49
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ScurveyFrogsethk: selected disk does not exist04:49
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sethkScurveyFrog, hm, that's interesting.04:49
Praxihmm04:49
sethkScurveyFrog, can you put your menu.lst on the paste web site?   and your device.map?04:50
ScurveyFrogsethk: when I run 'df' it tells me that '/' is /dev/hda104:50
sethkScurveyFrog, right, I believe you04:50
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ScurveyFrogsethk: yeah, what's the address for that?04:50
sethkScurveyFrog, do you have a separate partition for /boot?04:50
sethk!paste04:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:50
ScurveyFrogsethk: no, it's on hda1 with root04:50
sethkScurveyFrog, ok, then it should be working.04:51
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sethkScurveyFrog, it isn't working presumably for the same reason you have this problem in the first place.04:51
Praxihehe anyone know anything about red hat enterprise linux?  trying to get Ubunto added to grub with it (the grub installer off ubunto won't over write the redhat one when I install)04:52
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ScurveyFrogsethk: okay, menu.lst is there04:52
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ScurveyFrogsethk: and now device.map is there04:53
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XalI need to reinstall grub on an SATA drive.04:54
XalDo I still use HD?04:54
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Xalhd*04:54
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Xalnick Xal204:54
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Seeker2599does anyone here use avidemux?04:55
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rixth!anyone04:55
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:55
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bruenigI have tried to use it and failed04:56
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PraxiXal do a df -h I think it is04:56
SpacePuppyquestion04:56
Seeker2599how do i use avidemux to split an avi file in half?04:56
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Praxihehe04:57
Praxistill can't get into ubunto about to write it off and just stick with RH04:57
Praxiubuntu*04:57
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SpacePuppyto write what off?04:58
Praxiubuntu04:58
bruenigPraxi, the MBR should be overwritten when you install ubuntu04:58
Praxiits not04:58
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bruenigPraxi, did you use the desktop cd?04:58
Hydrai'm dumping ubuntu, can't get it installed, no decent manual install docs for latest release, no dmraid support04:58
SpacePuppyrh is too vanilla... ubuntu is a solid user friendly distro..  two completely different critters.04:58
Hydragentoo here i come04:58
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Praxiit doesn't report anything during the install, but when the box reboots it still uses the RH grub04:59
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Hydraooh look: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid04:59
Hydrajust what i need04:59
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Praxiif I try to do a rescue/grub reinstall from the unbunto CD I get a error 2005:00
Nyto-RJbye05:00
Hydrai added some comments to the ubuntu release feedbakc05:00
bruenigHydra, have fun compiling everything from source05:00
Hydrawiki page, hopefully someone will take notice05:00
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Hydrabruenig, yeah :(05:00
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Hydrastill, at least it might work05:00
Praxiand I installed from the alternate CD05:00
Hydraand at least there's good docs05:00
bruenignothing like waiting 24 hours to compile open office05:00
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Praxilimme check what version, I downloaded both 6.06 and 6.1005:00
HydraI don't need loads of apps05:00
zirraheya guys.  I installed gdm but when I try and startx it tells me it can't find /etc/X11/X05:01
zirrawhat do  need to instl?05:01
Hydraall I need is a cross-compiler!05:01
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ScurveyFrogbruenig: haha! that's so true!05:01
brueniggnome or kde I am sure take just as long05:01
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Hydramy box is a nice dual core x2 4200, so compiling from source, hopefully, won't be too bad05:01
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SpacePuppyhave fun Hydra05:01
Praxihehe same here hydra05:01
Hydrait's a shame as i've seen ubuntu on some other pc's and it looks nice05:01
bruenigresolving your own depedencies also05:01
CaptainMorganwtf05:01
SqueeeIf I installed a 64bit kernel and used all 32 bit binaries, could I make a 64bit chroot?05:02
CaptainMorganstop that05:02
bruenigoh that obscure lib file isn't there hmmm, better go find it somewhere05:02
Praxiseems like all the desktop 64 bit os's hated my raid setup05:02
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ScurveyFrogHydra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280896&highlight=dmraid05:02
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SpacePuppywhat... time.h is in there .. wtf???05:02
Hydrai got the old release (5.x) running with dmraid on my box at work, but this new edgy release just won't install, even manually05:02
Praxitried fedora core and ubuntu 64, neither one would install05:02
NineTeen67CometHi all git a little problem starting my terminal .. When I click it, the status bar shows it, then it goes away. No errors nothing .. I made an icon on the menu bar, and it does the same thing .. gnome-terminal just doesn't start .. help? (Edgy Eft) ..05:02
bruenig!edgy05:03
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:03
godzirraHeya folks.  I just installed gdm and x11-common and when I try and startx it tells me X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.05:03
godzirraWhat do I need to install to get X up and running?05:03
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NineTeen67CometThanks bruenig ..05:03
iratsu_can the partition editor in the ubuntu installation resize NTFS?05:03
SpacePuppygodzirra, is this a fresh install?05:03
godzirrayes.05:03
Squeeewhy should I use sudo -i instead of sudo -s or sudo su?  I was told to use sudo -i only05:03
Hydrai also can't find any docs regarding a manual installation to a blank partition using debootstrap for edgy05:04
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SpacePuppystart over.. you did not install x05:04
godzirraIt doesnt give me an option05:04
Hydraall the docs are for warty, sid, sarge and dapper05:04
godzirrait automatically installs everything and reboots.05:04
godzirraUsing ubuntu - dapper.05:04
rcarrjust because you didn't install X doesn't mean you have to start over05:04
ScurveyFrogHydra: have you ever been to ubuntuforums.org, they're great at this stuff05:04
SpacePuppyreally.. try it again.. it's easier.05:04
bruenig/etc/X11/X is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/Xorg on my machine05:04
rcarrinstall xserver-xorg05:04
Hydraand they all fail at various points and I've already spent 6 hours trying now...05:04
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godzirraSpacePuppy: I don't have an option to install X when I do an install ;p05:04
godzirrastarting over wouldnt herlp ;p05:04
godzirrahelp05:04
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godzirrarcarr: thanks, lemme try that.05:04
fdsdhey guys, why is it not possible to mount a currupted drive but imaging a drive with dd will allow me to mount the image it creates?  any idea why that works?05:04
Hydrai swear, linux is the biggest time-sap ever05:05
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FructoseIf I have a Radeon X1300, do I want to enable the kernel framebuffer device?05:05
mynullvoidI am using this --- useradd $1 -c $2 -g costa -s /bin/bash -m -p '$1$a/wmVI5L$3csBpudpOFZiuY8yPpDvD/'  to create user from a bash script file but I notice that when I try to echo the line I miss the single quote. How can I fix that?05:05
godzirraHydra: play World of Warcraft. :)05:05
bruenigHydra, initially it is but once you get it running, it runs faster and smoother and to your whims better than anything else.05:05
asymmetryHydra, ditto. At least, Linux WAS the biggest time-sap ever. Then I got engaged. ;)05:05
godzirralol05:05
Praxiimaging software doesn't typically care about the state of the hard drive05:05
ScurveyFrogHydra: especially gentoo05:05
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bruenigI get all of my scripts and keyboard shortcuts and apps and preferences which takes probably a full week or so and then from there it is awesome.05:06
godzirrarcarr: is there a xf86configurator or something?05:06
ScurveyFrogHydra: nothing like gentoo for sucking your time away05:06
brueniggodzirra, do you have x installed?05:06
rcarrgodzirra: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:06
fdsdanyone know?05:06
godzirraHrm.  It didnt ask me to configure xserver-xorg.  How odd.05:06
ScurveyFrogsethk: anything yet?05:07
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asymmetryOkay, see... Gentoo is like that 67 Chevy in your garage. It looks awesome. You tell all your friends that it'll be bad-ass whenever you finally get it running. But for some reason, it never does get running. It sits there in the garage, looking sweet as shit, but never doing anything.05:07
jbinder!schedule05:07
rcarrgodzirra: Well, that's a xorg configurer, xf86=eh05:07
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:07
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brueniggodzirra, wait, do you have XFree86 or Xorg?05:07
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mick__i'm a newbie trying to make a boot disk for an old pc. cna anybody point me to any information on this?05:07
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Che-AnarchAnyone here do any development / translation?05:07
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godzirrabruenig: Xorg05:07
aleve8could some one help me???05:08
godzirrarcarr: Sorry, I meant Xorg.  Old habits.05:08
bruenig!ask05:08
Hydrai guess, what i could do, if gentoo turns out to be pants, is stick a spare hdd into my box here and run it from that05:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:08
Brydenn33hey guys, is there a command to put in the konsole to tell me what version of Ubuntu I'm running?05:08
godzirraHrm.05:08
aleve8i need help finding simplymepis drivers for a gam55pluss3g board05:08
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godzirrait dies now telling me could not open default font 'fixed'05:08
AsheDI use amarok for my media player, and I am having some troubles getting it to read my music tags, I don't know if it uses a different character set or something, anybody use it?05:08
asymmetryhow stable is edgy right now?05:08
ferossmick__: dsl is a good little distro for old pc-s .. or slax might be good also05:09
Brydenn33edgy is supposedly fine05:09
Seeker2599 does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?05:09
Hydrastill, that's totally pants having to get a different hd just because the distro won't install to hardware that *is* supported by the distro once it's installed. lol05:09
Brydenn33the final release is on the 26th05:09
mick__thanks feross05:09
asymmetryAnyone running edgy via a dist-upgrade from dapper?05:09
Brydenn33not i asymmetry05:09
FructoseIf I have a Radeon X1300, do I want to enable the kernel framebuffer device?05:09
wickedpuppyasymmetry, me05:09
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Brydenn33i actally did a clean install of Edgy Beta and just upgraded to RC105:09
asymmetrywickedpuppy, how is it?05:09
aleve8i need help finding simplymepis drivers for a ga-m55plus-s3g(1.x) board05:09
printkasymmetry: I tried that but had some issues... I suggest a clean edgy install05:10
ScurveyFrogasymmetry: I was, but it gave me trouble, so I started from scratch05:10
wickedpuppyasymmetry, nothing wrong ... boring05:10
wickedpuppylol05:10
asymmetryprintk, were the issues with the sysvinit/upstart conflict?05:10
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printkasymmetry: yes a few of those and also some usplash conflicts also....05:10
printkasymmetry: but i did the upgrade around knot1.... maybe it's cleaner now05:10
asymmetryprintk, so clean install is the way to go, isn't it?05:10
ScurveyFrogasymmetry: I'd say so05:10
printkasymmetry: yes that's what i'd recommend.  I have a seperate /home directory so i just don't format that and reinstall the rest05:11
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fdsdhey guys, why is it not possible to mount a currupted drive but imaging a drive with dd will allow me to mount the image it creates?  any idea why that works?05:11
tnncanyone know of any docs on coppermine on ubuntu05:11
asymmetryprintk, this is my oops-i-killed-it-oh-well machine.05:11
printkasymmetry: :)05:11
wickedpuppybtw whats the upstart command ? i did upstart and get no such command error05:11
asymmetrywickedpuppy, upstart is a replacement for init05:11
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bruenig!edgy05:12
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:12
wickedpuppyasymmetry, that i know .. what is its command name ?05:12
demantik_http://kiwi.peemail.org/sandboxed/kids_in_sandbox.mpg awesome05:12
asymmetrywickedpuppy, not sure05:12
printkwickedpuppy: it's not a command.  it's the init system, the rc files.  it consists of several things05:12
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printkwickedpuppy: start is one, init is one... etc etc..05:12
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dadexterstonecrest!!!05:13
demantik_dadexter, !05:13
JKnifedadexter!05:13
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dadexterdemantik_!!!05:13
stonecresthello dadexter05:13
dadexterJKnife!!!05:13
asymmetrywhat's the console command to get the update manager to see edgy?05:13
tnncanyone know where maybe some docs on coppermine on ubuntu05:13
demantik_http://kiwi.peemail.org/sandboxed/kids_in_sandbox.mpg this is why ubuntu rocks :)05:13
bruenig!ops05:13
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!05:13
bruenigdemantik05:13
asymmetryis it 'update-manager -d -c'?05:13
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AsheDcan anybody tell me what character set amarok uses?05:14
JKnifeasymmetry: umm just edit your sources.list -_-05:14
asymmetryOr not. Can I get an answer to my question, as it was asked?05:14
dadextertry google05:15
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Xal2For a grub installation, do I use my first hard drive for the setup (hdx) command?05:15
asymmetryBeen doing that, thanks. Anyone going to not be lazy?05:15
Xal2or do I use the one with Linux on it?05:15
brueniggksudo "update-manager -c -d"05:15
asymmetrybruenig, THANK YOU. Finally, a real answer.05:15
dadextergoogle could have told you that05:16
dadexterI found it05:16
stonecrestOMFG that link is disgusting!!!!!!!05:16
dadexterwhat link?05:16
stonecrestdadexter: 21:12     demantik_| http://kiwi.peemail.org/sandboxed/kids_in_sandbox.mpg this  is why ubuntu rocks :)05:16
asymmetrydadexter, in the time you were doing that, you could have just... answered.05:16
bruenigI just went to ubuntu.com and looked for a release candidate link05:16
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nixternaldon't foget to kick him05:16
nixternalthere you go ;)05:16
dadexterasymmetry: how would I know? wtf is update-manager?05:16
LookTJSomeone help with adding a windows network printer? it's an Lexmark Optra E312L. Thanks for reading my question05:17
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asymmetrydadexter, maybe... the update manager?05:17
bruenigupdate-manager is the well update manager05:17
bruenigit is the graphical update thing05:17
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dadexteroh shit! wtf am I doing in #ubuntu?05:17
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DBO...05:17
asymmetrylol05:18
FujitsuO...K.05:18
ScurveyFrogsethk: are you still here?05:18
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_azraelHey, does anyone know how to fix Eclipse giving a "A console is not available." error?05:18
_azrael*How do I fix Eclipse giving a "A console is not available." error?05:18
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LookTJSomeone help with adding a windows network printer? it's an Lexmark Optra E312L. Thanks for reading my question05:20
fdsdAnyone here interested in working on a script that will walk a newbie though backing up a currupted harddrive to a external?05:20
LookTJor link me please05:21
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ianmacgregor_azrael: Have you seen these: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22a+console+is+not+available%22&btnG=Search05:21
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iCodI have a serious problem, and I need it fixed within an hour. 3 packages including libc6 are broken and synaptic will no t fix them. Any ideas?05:21
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bruenigiCod, what do you mean broken and what is the hurry05:22
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iCodthe packages are broken, and I have a podcast in an hour, and its stopping skype from working05:22
gubluntuso i am pull like 3 gigs over ssh with rsync in vt1, anyone know how i can see its progress or at least its transfer speed?05:22
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bruenigiCod, try reinstalling?05:23
iCodyeah05:23
MadpilotiCod, what is the *exact* error message - and can you pastebin your sources.list, please?05:23
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mrvw0169iCod, I don't know but try sudo dpkg --configure -a... or sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade... the dist-upgrade only if sudo aptitude reinstall * still doesn't fix it (* = all your broken packages)05:24
iCodI have05:24
iCodthe error message is...05:25
iCodone sec05:25
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omplater folks05:25
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iCodYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:05:26
iCodThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:26
iCod  libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable05:26
iCod  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is to be installed05:26
iCod  libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is to be installed05:26
LookTJWILL ANYONE ANSWER MY QUESTION???(sorry for caps)05:26
iCodE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).05:26
iCodthats the error message05:26
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LookTJ!paste05:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:26
gubluntu!patience05:26
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:26
rcarriCod, and did you try apt-get -f install ?05:26
iCodyes05:26
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iCodsudo apt-get -f install gives the same error message05:27
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rcarrtry installing tzdata?05:27
iCodyes05:27
LookTJicod: what about aptitude -f install05:27
rcarrand?05:27
iCodit says the packages need to be fix before it can be installed05:27
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rcarrjust a second05:27
Nemecushello everyone05:27
iCodLookTJ, i tried that05:28
mrvw0169what repo is causing you to pull in 2.3.6ds?05:28
LookTJaptitude and apt-get is different05:28
iCodmrvw0169, not sure05:28
rcarriCod: use apt-cache show on the package to see what repo a certain v ersion are from05:28
iCodok05:29
Nemecusis there anyone that is a super expert on ubuntu and can help me. I am a super noob and I just installed it. I have trouble getting my video card to work05:29
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chuckypNemecus, what kind of card?05:29
rcarriCod: If it's helpful, but no gurantees...but it has no dependencies05:30
rcarriCod: http://dev.wired-designs.net/tzdata_2006l-1ubuntu1_all.deb05:30
bruenigwow chuckyp is arrogant thinking he is a super expert and all :)05:30
rcarriCod: You could try dpkg -i on that deb to install tzdata05:30
iCodok05:30
rcarriCod: But that is the edgy version so eh05:30
Nemecusit is actually a laptop... Intel Graphic Media Accelerator 950. I am trying to run WoW with Crossover but it keeps saying that my 3d accerleration is not supported by WoW...05:30
iCodI'll try it05:30
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SpudDogg!edgy05:31
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:31
chuckypNemecus, did you try searching the forums for your card?05:31
Alakazamz0r!edgy05:31
Alakazamz0rheh05:31
SpudDogg!schedule05:31
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:31
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iCodCannot open tzdata_2006l-1ubuntu1_all.deb05:32
Nemecusyeah, I am getting lost with all of it. I can't find anything specific for my card. I also have been checking the device manager and all the items (processor, graphics card, etc) say unknown on it.05:32
SpudDoggWhat are some of the differences between dapper and edgy?05:32
iCodThe filename "tzdata_2006l-1ubuntu1_all.deb" indicates that this file is of type "Software package". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "HTML document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.05:32
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rcarriCod: err, that's a problem with my apache, oops05:32
iCod^never mind^05:32
lasindiHas the security fix for the NVIDIA driver been packaged for Ubuntu, or do we have to execute the NVIDIA binary?05:32
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iCodwheres the right one then?05:32
chuckypSpudDogg, go to the edgy page and see05:33
godzirraCan anyone help me?  I can't start X because it can't find my default fixed font.05:33
SpudDoggchuckyp, i was looking more for people's opinions.  is it worth a format and reinstall?05:33
rcarriCod: Just a second05:33
chuckypSpudDogg, You don't have to format and reinstall05:34
chuckypSpudDogg, you could dist-upgrade if you wanted to.05:34
mrvw0169SpudDogg, no you can upgrade to edgy from dapper pretty easily05:34
MadpilotiCod, can you pastebin your sources.list, please? Errors like yours are often caused by non-Ubuntu repositories in sources05:34
iCodwhat do you mean pastebin?05:34
Madpilot!pastebin05:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:34
MadpilotiCod, that ^^^05:34
iCodsorry...05:34
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rcarriCod: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2006m-1ubuntu1_all.deb05:35
gubluntuhow do i force --stats or --process on a rsync already running05:35
iCodI pasted my sources.list05:36
iCodI'm downloading tzdata05:36
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LookTJso anyone....Someone help with adding a windows network printer? it's an Lexmark Optra E312L. Thanks for reading my question05:37
nym_how do you reset a password in ubuntu if you can't log in at all?05:37
rcarrnym: If you haven't  set a root password05:37
rcarrnym: You can add rw init=/bin/sh to the end of the boot line in grub05:37
equilibriumnym_: you'll need to boot into single user mode and set it from there05:37
Fujitsurcarr, or just boot into recovery mode...05:37
rcarrnym:And then once you have a root console, you can run "passwd usernamegoeshere"05:38
nym_rcarr: cheers05:38
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nym_equilibrium: tried that, no luck05:38
rcarrFujitsu: I didn't get a recovery mode option with my last install05:38
LukeSeveas: do you have a repo for edgy set up yet?05:38
Fujitsurcarr, it should always be there... You must have stuffed around with something if it's not.05:38
equilibriumnym_: can't boot into single user or can't set it from single user?05:38
rcarrFujitsu: It's possible it  was a bad CD, it was an edgy daily build05:38
nym_can't boot into single05:39
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Fujitsunym_, what does it not do?05:39
nym_it goes to the login05:39
iCodtzdata installation was a success!05:39
nym_anyways, thanks!05:40
NemecusHello, I am new to Ubuntu (installed it yesterday) I am having some issues. I look at my device manager and everything that is on there (processor, graphics card, etc) show device type as unknown. Is that normal? I have a Toshiba Satellite (laptop) with a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950. When I try to play WoW using Crossover, I get an error saying "Your 3d acceleration card is not supported by World of Warcraft" Am I doing something wron05:40
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roothello05:40
equilibriumnym_: try booting a live cd, mounting the / filesystem and then chrooting to it05:40
iCoddependency problem fixed, THANK YOU!05:40
ZambeziAnyone skilled on rsync? I need to block external access, but i'm not sure how.05:41
iCodMadpilot and rcarr, THANK YOU05:42
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rcarriCod: No problem good luck with the padcast05:43
rcarriCod: Err, podcast05:43
iturkhi there i have a problem in kismet http://pastebin.ca/214633 !! can someone help ??05:43
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godzirraCrap.  I can never remember what windows manager I like.05:44
godzirraIt is very minimal.  With a bar at the bottom.  And a right click menu.05:44
asymmetryIceWM?05:45
asymmetryXFCE?05:45
godzirrano, neither of those.05:45
godzirraI dont think.05:45
iCodrcarr, will do, see you later05:45
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tannerldhow can one check the timezone from the command line?05:45
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godzirraAny other ideas?05:46
mrvw0169black/open/flux/box05:46
jojoman02how do i change what codec rhythmbox/gstreamer use?05:46
mrvw0169?05:46
godzirrafluxbox!05:46
godzirrathank you :)05:46
mrvw0169lol np05:46
jojoman02for mp3 for example05:46
AsheDI have been having some problems with amarok reading tags, and I am told I may not have UTF-8 support or something on my system, how can I check/remedy this?05:46
jolihi, i have a partition mounted for /home. This partition is already full, so i created a new partition and mounted it as /home but when i do it, ubuntu can't read from /home anymore. can anybody help me sorting this out?05:48
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sethkjoli, that's not quite what you want to do.05:48
sethkjoli, as you noticed, a mount  covers up anything in that part of the tree05:49
sethkjoli, you only mount to an empty directory05:49
nwbrenemanI just did a fresh install of Xubuntu from a gnome/xfce mix, and my external firewire harddrive is no longer showing up. any help please?05:49
sethkjoli, you have two choices.05:49
sethkjoli, you can copy the data, or you can use symbolic links05:49
sethkjoli, does the new partition have enough space for what (used to be on) home plus enough empty space?05:50
jolisethk: can i for instance mount it at /home/joli/newpartition and then put a simbolic link for /home/joli ?05:50
Zambezigodzirra, Enlightenment 17?05:50
sethknwbreneman, either the kernel module for firewire isn't loaded, or perhaps firmware support is missing  in the kernel.05:50
sethkjoli, yes05:51
jolino, is exactly the same space that the old one...it is what left of the disc05:51
sethkjoli, ok, then you need to use links05:51
nwbrenemansethk, thanks, but i have no idea how to fix this. i can wait if you need me to do so05:51
sethkjoli, only you said it kind of backwards.05:51
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sethknwbreneman, one second, let me finish with joli05:51
asymmetryedgy == sexy05:51
sethkjoli, say you mount the new partition on /home205:52
joliyes05:52
elljayHAHAHAHAHHA05:52
sethkjoli, then, you copy everything from /home/joli to /home205:52
elljay22:41 [ bigs]  give it ten years, and M$ will be gone hopefully05:52
elljay22:41 ::: bigs was kicked from #vista by newbfeet [The following word is banned: M$] 05:52
elljaythat almost brought me to tears ;)05:52
sethkjoli, then, your delete /home/joli05:52
sethkjoli, then you do:   ln -s /home2/joli /home/joli05:52
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jolisethk: ok, thank you!05:53
jolii will give a try :)05:53
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sethkjoli, it's easy, and you had already figured it out, it sounds05:53
sethknwbreneman, is this firewire drive always connected, or do you connect it occasionally?05:53
acukonqueror question: I want to add the google search in a toolbar (similar to firefox) anyone knows how to do it?05:54
nwbrenemanit's always connected, but i had it off when i booted my computer05:54
sethkacu, it already has it.05:54
acusethk: konqueror?05:54
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sethkacu, yes, konqueror already has a search area built in, similar to firefox05:54
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sethkacu, right next to the url box05:55
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nredCould someone help me. When I got to my resolution Screen, I only have the option for a resolution of 600x40005:55
sethkacu, konqueror had it three years before firefox/mozilla had it.05:55
sethknred, none of your configured resolutions are usable, so you are defaulting to 6x405:56
ChocoCidhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/sriBig80.html  <-- so what's up with this and how do i fix it?  Every time I try to use apt the yiff-server thing pops up and it's quite annoying05:56
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sethknred, or, none of your resolutions above 6x4 are usable.05:56
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acusethk: ok I just some extra utilities and it works now (I am using GNOME). However I want to add another search tool to NCBI05:56
sethknred, look in your X log file.  /var/log/Xorg.org.0.log05:56
nredsethk, how do I go about fixing it?05:56
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sethkacu, ah, ok, that can be done.  Did you try in the kde channel?  I would have to figure it out as I haven't looked at it in ages.05:57
ChocoCider, nvm, it works after repeatedly removing the program ;[05:57
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sethknred, first try running (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:57
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sethknred, if it does not correctly identify your monitor, override it's monitor choice with the appropriate generic.05:58
sethknred, when you get to the question about resolutions/monitors, take the middle difficulty level.05:58
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nredok05:58
nredI will try that05:58
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acusethk: thanks. I just think that Konqueror should have been the star instead of firefox. Konqueror is just so cool, from smb to ftp web browsing and file manager is just all in one05:59
acuthanks again- bye05:59
_goofy_anyone know of a program to mount a image file to a virtual cd drive06:00
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ZambeziAnybody skilled on rsync? I need to ask some question about security.06:01
equilibrium_goofy_: mount?06:01
nwbrenemansethk, did you get my last response?06:01
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sethknwbreneman, sorry, no, I was doing some work work.  :)06:02
tonyyarussoWhat command locks the screen in gnome?06:02
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nwbrenemansethk, heh, no problem. I usually have the drive connected and on constantly, but it was off when I turned on my laptop06:02
_goofy_i have an immage file that is a game and i want to get arround burning i to a disk06:02
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tannerldSudo isn't working for me. I get "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 22 01:00:17 2006" when I try to use it.06:02
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sethknwbreneman, run dmesg, then turn on the drive and run dmesg again.  see if there is any response.06:03
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sethktannerld, make sure your clock on the machine is set to the correct time.06:03
equilibrium_goofy_: if it's an iso image you can just mount it like you would a disk: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/isodisk06:04
sethktannerld, sounds like you might have lost the clock setting and it went back to 1980 or something .06:04
tannerldsethk: Just changed it to the correct time.06:04
tannerldsethk: Hmm.06:04
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nwbrenemansethk, the first dmesg said ieee1394 node suspended, after i turned it on, it showed that it was connected06:04
sethknwbreneman, ok, then the kernel module is there and is loaded.06:04
tannerldsethk: Seems right "Sun Oct 22 00:04:54 EDT 2006"06:04
sethknwbreneman, did you try to mount it?06:04
Em3rald_goofy_ or like this:  sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop06:04
sethknwbreneman, probably you merely need to add a line to /etc/fstab for it.06:05
Em3raldmake sure you "mkdir" the appropriate directory first06:05
_goofy_thanks06:05
Em3raldnp06:05
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sethktannerld, well, no, it's not 04:54 EDT on sunday06:05
sethktannerld, it's roughly 04:54 UTC06:05
nwbrenemansethk, d'oh, I didn't even check the disks admin. it's there. thank you!06:05
tannerldsethk: isn't it hour/min/seconds?06:05
sethktannerld, yes, sorry, I misread06:06
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tannerldsethk: :P06:06
Em3rald_goofy_:  Just a note, I believe the target directory must be /empty/ before you can use it for mount.06:06
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sethktannerld, I dont' mess around with sudo, normally, I just use su.  at the very least you can use su to fix sudo.06:06
tannerldhe06:06
equilibriumEm3rald: you can mount filesystems on non empty directories06:06
tannerldsethk: heh06:06
Bladelessi need help on installing ubuntu, can someone please help me...06:06
dabaRBladeless: you need me to close the cd tray?06:07
Em3raldequilibrium:  just as I thought ... never tried it on a non-empty directory.06:07
Em3raldBladeless:  Fire away.06:07
BladelessdabarR: im use to installing fedora core06:07
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ferosshey, what files does xorg look at? Just the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? does hotplug or gnome create any other files that are specific to each user?06:07
Em3raldBladeless:  well, its pretty straightforward usually.  Burn the CD or DVD image, slap it in the drive, reboot and give'er nuts06:08
Bladelessi have the desktop cd06:08
Em3raldAlrighty, so when it boots, do you get the ubuntu desktop?06:08
sethkfeross, yes, files specific to the user are created by many things including gnome.  do this in your home directory:    ls -A06:08
Bladelessi just get a list and it boots to ubuntu live06:08
sethkfeross, all the subdirectories beginning with . (that is dot) are state files.  you'll see the one for gnome, the name is obvious.06:09
Em3raldYup, thats peachy.  On the desktop should be an icon that points you to install it.06:09
Em3raldJust give 'er a double-click and voila (usually)06:09
sethkbrb, probably06:09
thejoeandchipbladeless: there is only a live cd, from there you install it too your desktop06:09
Bladeless??? what icon? i cant seem to find it :S, i have no mouse06:09
SmotangHow do I add fonts to Ubuntu?06:09
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sethkBladeless, use the text mode install from the alternate cd06:10
Em3raldWell, that would be the root of our problem then, hey?  Okay so just so I know what you are looking at ... you have a brownish desktop, right?06:10
Em3raldsethk:  I want to try without that first ...06:10
Bladelessonly have the one i downloaded it06:10
mrvw0169is the alternate cd now called the server cd?06:10
Em3raldBladeless, that's okay ... we'll try to get you all fixed up.06:10
sethkmrvw0169, no, there are three06:10
quintinPlaying a multiplayer freecraft06:10
Bladelesstahnks em3rald06:10
quintinanyone wanna join?06:10
sethkEm3rald, I can't imgaine why, but ok06:10
SmotangHow do I install fonts in ubuntu?06:10
kyubihi06:10
chuckyp!fonts > Smotang06:11
quintinSmotang: stw06:11
Smotangthanks06:11
quintinnow then06:11
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Em3raldSethk:  well, he's got the desktop CD and he's ready to go ... if it's relatively easy we'll go this way first.06:11
mrvw0169i remember there are 3 everytime i download the install cds since the "desktop/live cd" never works for me06:11
quintineveryone join my Wargus game06:11
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Em3raldOkay now Bladeless:  Do you have a top and bottom menu bar?06:11
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xenexWould installing CS:S/DoD:S and GW be relatively easy on Ubuntu using Cedega? And decent performance and stability?06:11
mrvw0169and always get alternate... but i don't see the link to them anymore on www.ubuntu.com06:11
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quintinxenex: totally stable.  ass-slow unless you have nvidia or ati drivers.06:11
Bladelessi have a menu, satrt or install ubuntu, start ubuntu in safe graphics mode chekc cd for defects mem test, boot from first hard disk06:12
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Bladelesswhen i use the start or install ubuntu06:12
xenexquintin: last time i tried gw, it was crap. cs:s/dod:s works well?06:12
tonyyarussoWhere would gnome-screensaver put something indicating the screen locked/unlocked status?06:12
mrvw0169nm i'm just stupid =P06:12
Bladelessi get an error that x coulndt start06:12
Em3raldBladeless:  that would be the usual way .... but that is a peculiar issue.06:12
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Bladelessill get you the error in just a second, its loading the install part06:13
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Em3raldBladeless:  Okay, I'll see if I can find a quick fix for you .......06:13
sethktonyyarusso, probably in the gnome state directory under your home directory06:13
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tnncanyone know of any good docs about installing coppermine on ubuntu06:14
sethkBladeless, if you don't have a mouse connected, X won't start.  you don't want that install without a mouse in any event.  use the text mode install from the alternate cd if you don't have a mouse.06:14
ferosssethk: ok I see the gnome directories but which one is the one that controls screen resolution and what devices are used to display.. LDC-CRT-TV ... it's on a laptop. I want to be able to control it what to use, right now it only works when I boot up with the devices plugged in.06:14
Bladelessmouse is plugged in....06:14
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Em3raldBladeless:  is it ps/2 or USB?06:15
Bladelessusb i think06:15
KeyseirWhere should I go to see about upgrading breezy badger to dapper drake?06:15
Bladelesslet me check'06:15
sethkBladeless, you said you don't have a mouse.  did you mean that you don't see the mouse?  that's a completely different thing.06:15
Tron_im having trouble setting up fglrx i get the error that my chipset is not recognized, using radeon 9200SE06:15
TheUniKeyseir: might want to wait a day or two and upgrade to edgy.06:15
ganja_guruwill there be another RC before final?06:15
Bladelessno mouse on the screen, physical mouse is present06:15
rcarrKeyseir: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list06:15
rcarrKeyseir: To replace all occurences of breezy with dapper in your sourcces06:15
rcarrKeyseir: You can do it via some other method, then run sudo apt-get update06:16
Bladelessit was plugged on usb06:16
rcarrKeyseir: And sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:16
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tonyyarussosethk: Know where that would be?  (Poking around in .gnome2 now)06:16
Keyseirrcarr: Thanks.06:16
Em3raldBladeless:  I don't suppose you have a PS/2 adapter do you?  This may be the quickest fix.06:16
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sethkBladeless, where else would it be plugged?  I don't understand what you mean.06:16
rcarrKeyseir: No problem, I think you can do it in synaptic or something, but I'm not sure how06:16
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sethktonyyarusso, no, not specifically, and I can't look because I'm running kde.06:17
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Em3raldsethk:  Many of us still use PS/2 mouses you know ;)06:17
Bladelesslol ill see what i can06:17
Bladelessdo06:17
sethkEm3rald, he said it's a usb mouse.  I wasn't saying it's a usb mouse.06:17
sethkEm3rald, this entire conversation is from the twilight zone  :)06:17
ganja_gurucan someone please point me to ubuntu cvs?06:17
Em3raldsethk:  I realize that, but I have several USB mouses which are plugged in using an adapter to the PS/2 port.06:18
Railerquick question ubuntu allows, you to apt-get webmin?06:18
crimsunganja_guru: what are you referring to?06:18
Bladelesswill ubuntu give me a hard time if the keyboard is on usb?06:18
sethkEm3rald, that's fine also, but it has nothing to do with what I was saying.06:18
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Em3raldBladeless:  Doubtful, in fact, even the mouse issue is doubtful, except that I ran into it once before too, so I know what you are dealing with.06:18
equilibriumBladeless: not at all06:18
sethkBladeless, no06:18
ganja_gurucrimsum: i'd like to checkout cvs for ubuntu packages. any cvs webview or something similar available?06:19
sethkBladeless, I have usb mouse/keyboard on all of my systems now except for two old ones.06:19
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jolirailer: i dont think so...at least i could not find it with apt-cache06:19
crimsunganja_guru: no, there's no cvs. Certain packages are maintained using bazaar-ng on launchpad.net, otherwise look in archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/06:19
Bladelesstrying install now with mouse on usb06:19
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Bladelessmouse on ps2*06:20
Railerthanks joli,06:20
Em3raldYou may have to restart the boot CD first though ... not sure about that.06:20
Bladelessfedora doesnt give me that much trouble lol06:20
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sethkBladeless, fedora's installer is a bit better.  it doesn't mean that once installed you'll have problems.06:20
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ganja_gurucrimsum: im not looking for packages..just cvs entries..how do the devs manage without cvs?06:20
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sethkBladeless, that's why I said to use the text mode install.  everything you are doing now is a waste of time because it doesn't apply to the o/s, only to the install program.06:21
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oidiahow di i remove a key set with blowfish?06:21
Em3raldSethk:  I was just attempting to prevent the extra time associated with downloading yet another image file.06:22
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crimsunganja_guru: some of us use bazaar-ng; the majority of packages are straight syncs from Debian and thus don't have "cvs metadata" attached06:22
Bladelesssame error06:22
ganja_gurucrimsum: i see..thanks06:22
sethkEm3rald, moving that off the install disk was a terrible mistake.06:22
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Em3raldBladeless:  From a fresh boot?  Peculiar. Sethk:  I totally and heartily agree.  I use the alternate myself. :D06:23
Bladelessfresh boot ya06:23
Em3raldSethk:  I think the live install is a cool idea in some sense, but I think there should be a "directly install" option from the menu, instead of "boot/install" in one option.06:24
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Tron_can anyone help me with fglrx06:24
Em3raldBladeless:  there probably "is" a fix for this, but I don't know it.  I think we've exhausted the "easy" solutions, so the next easiest would be to download the ALternate CD which doesn't use the live installer.06:24
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sethkEm3rald, yes, I would agree.  Well, I disagree that the live install has any advantage.06:25
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Em3raldBladeless:  unless you have some special wierdass mouse that requires some wacktastic driver.06:25
Bladelessms mouse?:P06:25
Em3raldsethk:  It's good for the "wow" factor for linux noobs.06:25
sethkEm3rald, the old install program worked extremely well.  so, let's discard it for one that, who knows, might work.06:25
Tron_fglrx cant recognize the chipset for my radeon 9200SE can anyone help me out06:25
strabesyeah that is06:25
Em3raldBladeless:  LOL!  Hahahah ... that's gotta be it, hey?  Hehehe, just kidding.  Shouldn't be a problem.06:25
_goofy_anyone know how to mannage a .daa file06:25
rcarrTron: I know fglrx recently dropped support for some older cards, make sure it's supported06:26
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Em3raldsethk:  I totally agree with you ... if the live installer was a little smoother and/or wasn't so damned slow to boot ......06:26
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Bladelesswhats the dvd do?06:26
Railerso are there deb packages that are not available for ubuntu?06:26
Tron_is there any easy way to check? i just used apt-get and followed a guide that said my card was infact supported06:26
Em3raldthe DVD has part of the repositories built right in (afaik)06:27
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sethkEm3rald, I guess the thought was that most people want the live cd and this way they only have to download one iso image.  A poor thought, in my view, but probably what they were thinking.06:27
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Em3raldsethk:  Definitely likely close to the truth.  But how hard would it have been to put a "directly install Ubuntu" on the opening menu instead of boot/install on the current live disc?06:28
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Em3rald1.  Boot to Ubuntu live 2. directly install 3. do other stuff ....06:29
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sethkEm3rald, maybe 1/2 hours work.06:29
Em3raldhaha06:29
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chasmarangwhat is the command line for scandisk in linux06:29
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JavaDeveloperif I created an launcher on desktop, but when I click it, it doesn't launch my program, but if I run it in terminal, it works.  Is this a permission related problem or others? I am running Eclipse.06:30
Em3raldOkay.... where are the developers ... we want changes!!!  We want ACTION on this problem .... ;)06:30
chasmarangdisk surface scan06:30
sethkJavaDeveloper, could be permissions, could be state set in your .bashrc, could be related to the current directory when the command is run.06:30
Em3raldchasmarang, dunno off hand, but I am sure someone will have it ....06:30
sethkchasmarang, badblocks06:31
chasmarangthanx E06:31
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sethkchasmarang, although in fact fsck is closer to scandisk than badblocks.  but badblocks scans for bad sectors, and I think that's what you mean.06:31
JavaDevelopersethk: ic ic...alright, thanks06:31
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nredHas anyone here install Gyach in Ubuntu?06:31
pc22anyone familiar with CRMs?06:31
chasmarangthanx sethk06:32
nredand got it working06:32
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nredCan someone help me with Gyach install?06:32
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nredCan someone help me?06:33
FructoseI'm desperately trying to get my Radeon X1300 to work. I install the drivers, but my Xorg.log says "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found". Any ideas?06:33
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FructoseIt also says "(--) Chipset RADEON X1300 (RV516 7183) found"06:33
Em3raldnred:  never used gyach what is it?06:33
sethkFructose, run lspci and see if 1:0:1 is correct06:33
Jay2what's the problem nred06:34
nredYahoo Mesenger for Linux, I found an install06:34
chasmarangsethk:can I use it while I'm in linux06:34
Fructosesethk: 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a306:34
h3htimocould someone help me with getting my sound working??06:34
nredI found a how to guide on how ot install, but the place I get the .deb file is down06:34
Em3raldnred:  have you tried sudo apt-get install gyach?06:34
nredyep06:34
nreddoesn't work06:34
nmsa!telepathy06:34
Em3raldhmm06:34
sethkchasmarang, the only place you can use it is within linux.  however, if you can't use it on a mounted partition.06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about telepathy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:34
Kr0ntabSeveas, gonna add w32codecs to edgy?  or wait until final release of 6.10?06:34
sethkchasmarang, you probably want to boot the livecd to use it.06:34
Fructosesethk: Oh, right above that, there's 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 718306:34
godzirrahow do I get wireless working on my laptop with ubuntu?06:34
Em3raldnred:  have you added any extra repositories to your sources.list?06:34
nredYep06:34
sethkFructose, ok, good, 1:0:1 is correct.06:35
chasmarangoh right great06:35
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sethkFructose, probably your best bet is to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:35
sethkFructose, odds are that will fix you up.06:35
Fructosesethk: Again?06:35
h3htimocould someone please help me with getting my sound working??06:35
Em3raldnred:  am I assuming you don't currently have the .deb file?06:35
nredyeah06:35
nredI can't find the one it says in the tutorial I need06:35
sethkFructose, when did you last run  it?06:35
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ed_hi06:36
nredhttp://www.bongload.org/files/linux/gyach-enhanced-pyvoicechat_1.0.7-2_i386.deb it says use this one, but that site is down06:36
Em3raldOkay, well ... I see.  Well, we have to do a google search or something to find the appropriate .deb package. Unfortunately not all Debian packages are totally compatable with Ubuntu.  This could prove to be interesting.06:36
Em3raldkay hang on.06:36
ed_im having trouble connecting to my server through the internet, i set my hosts.allow to ALL: ALL, and i forwarded my ports on my router but i cant seem to connect. can someone help me please?06:37
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wickedpuppyed_, when you do ifconfig ... what do you get ? pastebin if its long06:39
Fructosesethk: Well, I first tried installing via the repository, which used that command, but that didn't work. I haven't done it since I tried installing via the ATI installer, but they are both fglrx, so I'm not sure why an update to the xorg.conf would make a difference.06:39
Em3raldnred:  try here:  http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/download.shtml06:39
Fructosesethk: But I just did it again, so I'll go reboot. I'll probably be back, with my luck. :-)06:39
Em3raldnred:  specifically this link:  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gyachi/gyachi_1.0.5-1_dapper_i386.deb?download06:39
nredEm3rald all there servers are down to06:39
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Em3raldoh06:39
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chuckyp!info gyachi06:40
ed_sorry im a newbie, whats pastebin?06:40
ubotuPackage gyachi does not exist in any distro I know06:40
wickedpuppynred, sourceforge download mirrors are all down ?06:40
wickedpuppy!pastebin > ed_06:40
chuckyp!pastebin06:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:40
Em3raldwickedpuppy:  it appears so ...06:40
nredno, they only have one listed in there list06:40
nredto download that file06:40
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Jbirkis Edgy released?06:41
chuckyp!edgy Jbirk06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edgy Jbirk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
chuckyp!edgy > Jbirk06:41
wickedpuppyone ? no ... sourceforge will direct you to the mirrors ... unless its on their own server of course ..06:41
nredwhois06:41
Em3raldnred:  yeah, I see that .... in Kent.  And it's not responding.  Very strange.06:41
jdtedgy rc1 is released.06:41
nredyeah06:41
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Fructosesethk: Still no direct rendering06:41
Em3raldwickedpuppy:  yup, dude, only one mirror is showing up in the list ... never seen that before.06:41
godzirrahow do I get wireless working on my laptop with ubuntu?06:42
jdtwhat model laptop06:42
chuckypEm3rald, its doing it with other packages as well06:42
Em3raldOOOP ... I just got it!06:42
godzirraCompaq Presario 5200 series06:42
Em3raldnred:  I can send the file to you thru here if you want06:42
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nredwhat file?06:42
wickedpuppyyah dcc to him06:42
Em3raldthe .deb ... the Kent mirror just fired at me, so I now have the file.06:42
nredokay06:42
nredthat will work06:43
Fructosesethk: Still there... (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found06:43
chuckypWicked, Em3rald yeah souceforge mirrors have been messedup now for a few hours06:43
Em3raldstupid question ... uh ... how do I dcc it to you (I am not much an IRC user)06:43
ed_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27753/06:43
Em3raldchuckyp:  wacky.  Any reasons?06:43
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WickedO.o06:43
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nredI honestly have no ideas06:43
poningrugodzirra: hold on06:43
Em3raldhaha, okay, just a sec I will figure it out.06:43
wickedpuppyed_, you got 192.168.0.16 .... cant you ping to any other places ? like google ?06:44
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Em3raldoops, clicked the X06:44
godzirraponingru: sure thing.06:44
nredlol06:44
Em3raldanyway .. okay, trying to send it to you now.06:45
unluckymikeanyone have any experience with wmp54g wireless cards?06:45
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Em3raldnred, do you have a popup or something?  private chat or anything?06:45
nrednope did first time06:45
nrednot this time06:45
jdthmm - I cant find any info on Presario 5200 - does it have an internal wireless card? and how old?06:45
Em3raldwierd.  gah.06:45
Em3raldhang on, I have a problem on my end.06:45
ed_i can ping google, and my wan ip both responding06:45
wickedpuppyed_, then the problem is ??06:46
manmadhais there any cmd to open the browser & browse a given URL?06:46
Em3raldnred:  the stupid file is corrupt.06:46
poningrugodzirra: can you tell what the chipset of it is?06:46
godzirraponingru: how do I tell?06:46
poningruerr what the wireless card name is?06:46
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poningrugo to system->admin->device manager06:46
nredlol06:46
poningruor something like that06:47
Heptofitehey, one question, whats the best quickest way to get sysinfo on ubuntu?06:47
ed_i goto http://66.27.201.99/ and it should show my server but it says cant connect06:47
godzirraponingru: You're assuming I have windows installed.06:47
poningrugodzirra: no I am not06:47
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poningruI am assuming you have ubuntu installed06:47
Heptofiteand by that, i mean a dxdiag like function06:47
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wickedpuppyed_, can i clarify with you ? is it that your server seems to be down or you can't access the net ?06:48
jdtgodzirra - open a console window and type "lspci"06:48
h3htimocould someone help me with getting my soundcard working???06:48
godzirraBroadcom06:48
jdtthere will be a line that says wireless - prob toward the end.06:48
godzirraIt says unknown device06:48
poningrugodzirra: broadcom 43xxx?06:48
ed_i cant access my http server through the net06:48
godzirraYup06:48
godzirra431106:48
poningrusweet06:48
godzirraYay.06:48
poningrusimple to solve06:48
Em3raldnred:  I think you might just have to wait for a while for the sourceforge mirrors to come back up.  It appears they have a problem.06:48
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skello. i need some advice. how do i use the 6.06.1 live cd to partition undestructively on a ppc with mac osx? does gparted allow this in the command line? and if so, how do i get to the gparted command line?06:48
wickedpuppyed_, is your server configured properly ? ssh into it and check06:48
godzirraI knew when you said 43xx that either meant really good or really bad :)06:49
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chuckypEm3rald, try from here http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/g/gy/gyachi/gyachi_1.0.5-1_dapper_i386.deb06:49
poningrugodzirra: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb06:49
poningrugo download that06:49
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poningruand double click06:49
poningruthen restart06:49
ed_through lan or wan?06:49
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Em3raldchuckyp:  You da man ... the link is live.06:50
godzirradouble click?  You keep talking like I use X.  lol06:50
Em3raldnred:  Try chuckyp's link dude ...06:50
poningruoh06:50
poningrugodzirra: dude you have to say that you are not a complete noob06:50
poningruI have to assume that here06:50
JbirkI cannot resize my windows06:50
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Jbirkany help would be greatly appreciated06:50
FructoseI'm getting "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" followed by "(--) Chipset RADEON X1300 (RV516 7183) found" in my Xorg log. Anyone know how to get a Radeon X1300 working in Ubuntu?06:50
godzirraHehe.. I'm not a complete noob.  Just new to wireless on unix.06:51
godzirralinux06:51
poningrugodzirra: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb06:51
wickedpuppyed_, ssh is wan .. unless the server is right besides you ... the details are only known to you dude06:51
JbirkEverything was good for me today until I installed updates06:51
chuckypJbirk, unmount it first06:51
Em3raldjbirk:  increasing or decreasing size?06:51
godzirraYeah I know :)06:51
poningrucool06:51
poningruwasnt sure if you know the deb install system06:51
godzirraYup yu.06:51
dredhammeranyone using Iceweasel? How do you get it to install  extensions and themes without downloading and dragging and dropping ?06:51
wickedpuppyed_, put my nick in front if you are talking to me pls ...06:51
Em3raldjbirk:  ignore my last question ... I thought you were talking partitions06:51
godzirrabeen running debian for... hrm..  I dunno.  Over 5 years ;)06:51
godzirraWhat now?06:51
ed_wickedpuppy, sorry about that06:51
poningrugodzirra: it requires a network to be restarted06:52
godzirraI don't actually have ndiswrapper installed, but it tells me to remove the ndiswrapper driver.  Do I need to bother installing ndiswrapper?06:52
godzirrak06:52
poningruno06:52
Raileranyone using webmin onubuntu in here?06:52
AsheDI have been having some problems with amarok reading mp3 tags, basically, I have my music named with what I believe to be ISO 8859-1 encoding [Ubuntu's character map on the "Latin" set] , and I used id3v2 to create tags for the music, but they don't show correctly in amarok, so there is a disconnect somewhere, any ideas?06:52
wickedpuppyed_, no problem ... how to access the server depends on you ... maybe you ssh or drive to it or its besides ya .. only you know06:52
godzirra /etc/init.d/networking restart?06:52
poningruthat should do it06:52
unluckymikei'm trying to set up my linksys wmp54g (ralink) card but it will not connect to the network anyone have any experience with this problem?06:52
godzirraI still don't have my blue "internet button" as my wife likes to call it.06:52
godzirraand I dont see it in the network06:52
ed_wickedpuppy, yeah the servers in my room, i can ssh to my server through my lan ip but not my wan06:52
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GerMansonHi06:53
Em3raldGerManson:  Hello :D06:53
GerMansoni am new at ubuntu =)06:53
ed_wickedpuppy, is there some kind of ubuntu firewall or access config i need to configure besides hosts.allow?06:53
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wickedpuppyed_, then the server ip is blocked by your router ...06:53
poningrugodzirra: hmm it might require a restart then06:53
godzirraAsheD: I know -nothing- about the program your using.  That being said, the first thing I'd do is use another program to verify that the tags were written as id3v2's correctly.06:53
Em3raldGerManson:  Welcome!06:53
GerMansoni was on Gentoo..06:53
godzirraponingru: no configuration or anything?06:54
godzirrajust install that deb and boom I'm good to go?06:54
wickedpuppyed_, there is firestarter if your server got gui .. if not its iptable06:54
Em3raldGermanson:  Ah.  How do you like Ubuntu so far?06:54
poningrugodzirra: it should06:54
godzirrahrm.06:54
crimsunAsheD: have you tried editing the tags using mutagen?06:54
godzirraOk, its against my better judgement to fix something in linux by restarting, but I'll try ;)06:54
poningruyou do have to configure the wireless settings though06:54
ed_wickedpuppy, mm maybe its iptables ill check it out thanks for your help, really appreciate it06:54
godzirraOh sure, you tell m,e that right -after- I type reboot -n06:54
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GerMansonEm3rald, is good, easy. beautiful..06:54
wickedpuppyed_, no prob ....06:54
godzirra;)06:54
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poningru;)06:55
poningrubrb06:55
GerMansonnot that flexible like Gentoo. but is still ok.06:55
godzirraponingru: Should my wireless light be lit up though?06:55
wickedpuppyed_, you can flush the iptable rules .. its -f i think .. check out the man pages06:55
dredhammeranyone using Iceweasel? How do you get it to install  extensions and themes without downloading and dragging and dropping ?06:55
AsheDcrimsun:: I don't know mutagen, but when I edit the tags in amarok, they show correctly after that, leading me to believe that it is something with the id3v2 function06:55
Em3raldGermanson:  fabulous.  No troubles ... nothin you need help with just now?  I find it flexible enough for me :D06:55
godzirraWhats Iceweasel?06:55
poningrugodzirra: not sure06:55
poningru!iceweasel06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
poningrugodzirra: something that makes me very very sad06:55
wickedpuppygodzirra, you got to read slashdot to know that :P06:55
crimsunAsheD: amarok's use of id3v2.x through taglib?06:55
ed_wickedpuppy, will do06:55
godzirraYeah, I've been not keeping up with slashdot at all lately.06:55
godzirraI've got 177 hours t his month so far at work06:56
godzirraHavent had time ;p06:56
Em3raldI like using ExFalso for editing mp3/OGG tags.06:56
GerMansonEm3rald: Just one thing. mm but i can live with out it... i cant figure out how to install compiz-manager. i already got the repositorioes...06:56
unluckymikein my network settings, why do i have wlan0 and wmaster0?06:56
godzirraoh dear god.06:56
poningrugodzirra: hehe06:56
godzirraMy gdm has a picture of a flower.06:56
godzirraI -must- change this.06:56
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poningrurofl06:56
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godzirrahow do I change this ugly gdm screen?06:56
Em3raldGerManson:  There are a couple of really good tutorials on ubuntuforums.org that worked for me.06:56
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ink251GerManson: try beryl06:56
AsheDcrimsun:: just viewing the track's infomation?06:56
poningru!gdm06:56
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB06:57
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GerMansonEm3rald, out dated...06:57
crimsunAsheD: before changing, yes06:57
Em3raldFrom what I can tell Beryl is like, the next generation.06:57
Lubixhello ubuntu06:57
GerMansonink251, beryl is the new ubuntu?06:57
poningrugodzirra: hehe hold on06:57
Em3raldGerManson:  No no, like the new Compiz - sorta06:57
crimsunAsheD: i.e., what are you using to determine the tags are incorrect?06:57
godzirraAGH06:57
godzirraand it starts gnome06:57
Em3raldGermanson:  Kinda like an offshoot.06:57
godzirraGnome makes baby jesus cry.06:57
Em3raldgodzirra:  LOL!06:57
crimsunso choose another desktop environment from the Session menu...06:57
godzirraSorry.. this is really the wrong channel for me to bitch about GUI's isnt it ;)06:57
poningrugodzirra: maybe ubuntu isnt for you06:57
Lubixi have a newbish question06:57
auk_baby jesus makes me cry06:58
GerMansonEm3rald: aaaaaaah ok. mm beryl.. lets google it ..06:58
Lubixhow do u do a tracert in linux?06:58
AsheDcrimsun:: just that some characters show differently in the filenames vs. the playlist in amarok06:58
Em3raldlubix:  fire away.06:58
godzirraponingru: nah, I like ubuntu.  I've already got it on my desktop.  I just use fluxbox instead ;)06:58
poningruhehe06:58
Em3raldGerManson:  Use the ubuntuforums.org website and get a tutorial there :D06:58
po0fgodzirra: It's definitely the wrong channel for bad language.06:58
godzirraand never had a picture of a sunflower on my gdm screen ;p06:58
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Em3raldGerManson or even better, Wikipedia :D06:58
crimsunAsheD: your playlist is far more important, imo, than the filenames06:58
Che-AnarchAre the 18K+ applications on Repos all free?06:58
GerMansonEm3rald: thanks for the advice06:58
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Railerso anyone know if webmin_1.300_all.deb work on ubuntu??06:58
godzirrapo0f: err, sorry.06:58
crimsunChe-Anarch: no. A few are not at all Free.06:58
Em3raldGerManson:  No Problem :D06:58
AsheDcrimsun:: well, it would be nice if they were the same06:59
Che-AnarchSo just a few are free?06:59
LKRaideruptime[3w 3d 8h 17m 15s] 06:59
crimsunChe-Anarch: fewer than one hundred.06:59
godzirrahuh.  It did start fluxbox.  Then tried to load gnome on top. :/06:59
GerMansonanyone here got gnome 2.16 ?06:59
crimsunChe-Anarch: no, everything but those are Free.06:59
Em3raldcrimson:  LOL ... you are going to confuse people ...06:59
po0fGerManson: If you use Edgy, you have it.06:59
Che-AnarchHmmm... even for end/home users?06:59
jojoman02GerManson: i do...06:59
Lubixtracert command in bash,please?06:59
crimsunChe-Anarch: yes06:59
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jojoman02GerManson: with edgy :)06:59
GerMansonjojoman02: and how is it?06:59
crimsunAsheD: true. That's why I use mutagen.07:00
nwbrenemanhi, how do I set my default sound card in Xubuntu? i tried their room, but everyone is a vegetable at this hour07:00
Che-AnarchMan that kills the repos for me :-(07:00
LKRaiderLubix: tracepath07:00
jojoman02GerManson: i love it cuz CTRL+F in nautilus searches current directory, YEAH, no more searching for britney spears the hard way!!!07:00
nwbrenemanbasically I need rhythmbox to play with a usb sound card, rather than my onboard sound card, which is the default07:00
LKRaiderLubix: or install tcptraceroute07:00
GerMansonlol07:00
crimsunChe-Anarch: eh? that fewer than one hundred non-Free are available whereas tens of thousands of Free ones are?07:00
godzirraponingru: So what now?  How do I configure my wireless?  How do I tell if its even working?07:00
Railerso anyone know if webmin_1.300_all.deb will work on ubuntu?07:00
GerMansonjojoman02: that is an old feat..07:00
Che-AnarchOH.... sorry I understood it the other way round!07:00
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Che-AnarchI thought you are saying majority are not free.07:01
Lubixlkraider: i prefer the command line07:01
jojoman02GerManson: no before it always searched in your home directory, i have 2 external HD's sometimes i need to search07:01
godzirraWeird. gdm tries to automatically log me in or something.  Its very odd.07:01
LKRaiderLubix: both are commandline07:01
crimsunChe-Anarch: thankfully, no, the vast majority are Free.07:01
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  Nah ... and even the "non-free" ones are usually "free" just that you have to read their stupid EULA thingamadooey07:01
LKRaiderLubix: one uses ICMP the other TCP07:01
jojoman02GerManson: you could change it and refresh but that is added hassle...07:01
godzirraand I cantr get out of gdm by hitting ctrl+alt+F107:01
nwbrenemannobody could please tell me how to set my default sound card in xubuntu?07:01
GerMansonjojoman02: I see..07:01
crimsunnwbreneman: if you had waited a few more minutes, I would have answered you in that channel.07:02
Em3raldnwbreneman:  not ignoring you dude ... I just dont use XFCE.07:02
holycowAmaranth, just a heads up, you should be getting the package soon.  i sent it a good number of days ago.07:02
Che-AnarchGreat thanks... I am doing a localisation presentation on Ubuntu tomorrow so it was important that I get my facts stright.07:02
crimsunnwbreneman: use asoundconf(1) set-default-card07:02
nwbrenemani'm sorry, i don't mean to come across as impatient. i'm somewhat exhausted07:02
poningrugodzirra: dude you want to install ubuntu 'server'07:02
poningruthen07:02
crimsunnwbreneman: the string that you pass to it is taken from ``asoundconf list''07:02
GerMansonis there anyway to install gnome 2.16 with LTS?07:02
nwbrenemancrimsun: thank you very much! i appreciate it07:02
poningrugodzirra: I would say you can check by doing ifconfig07:02
poningrusee if there is an interface there07:03
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  Yeah ... the default installation of Ubuntu's repositories ARE definitely free.07:03
jojoman02nwbreneman: if you still need help try gstreamer-properties07:03
chuckypnwbreneman, alsamixer?07:03
poningruI will let you find the necessary flags ;)07:03
jojoman02nwbreneman: from terminal07:03
jojoman02nwbreneman: or Alt+F207:03
nwbrenemanheh, okay, thanks to all of you07:03
chuckypAnyone know how to open a terminal without the window decorations?07:03
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  It's just when you get into 3rd party repos and possibly Multiverse that things get a little gray.07:03
Squeee!lirc-x07:03
ubotulirc-x: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support (X dependent parts). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB07:03
godzirraponingru: I'm pretty sure thats what I did. ;)07:04
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godzirrathen I installed xserver-xorg and gdm07:04
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ubotulirc-modules-source: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support (kernel modules). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 191 kB, installed size 280 kB07:04
GerMansonis there anyway to install gnome 2.16 with LTS?07:04
jojoman02nwbreneman: try alsamixer first07:04
Em3raldGerManson:  Umm ... why?07:04
godzirraponingru: I'm a little disturbed that I can't ctrl+alt+f1 out though?07:04
chuckypGerManson, sure07:04
jojoman02GerManson: try edgy, it's in the RC phase so it's fairly stable07:04
godzirraam I missing something?07:04
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GerMansonis edgy a repository?07:05
po0fGerManson: Edgy is a release.07:05
Che-AnarchMan I need to find some more selling points of Linux (Ubuntu) for the lame computer person... and there is tons of things on net but nothing non-technical enough.07:05
Em3raldGerManson:  Haha no, it's the net Ubuntu release.07:05
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po0fGerManson: Like Dapper, but better.  :)07:05
jojoman02GerManson: i would suggest you download the CD and fresh install instead of upgrading...07:05
Che-AnarchSo far all I am doing is comparing a lot to Windows  :-p  and  OpenSource aspect.07:05
GerMansonEm3rald: my question was.. can i install new gnome in dapper?07:05
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  well, the biggest selling point:  Free, legally, with fabulous support.07:05
poningrugodzirra: you can07:05
Lubixwhat are some good books people know of for learning bash07:06
GerMansonthen i better wait for the official release :)07:06
NewTricksterDapper desktop comes with Gnome.07:06
godzirraI can't hit ctrl+alt+f107:06
poningrugodzirra: I just did07:06
jojoman02Che-Anarch, how about FOSS concept07:06
nwbrenemanjojoman02: i opened alsamixer, i didn't see any way to change the sound card, only the volume. is there a way to do this?07:06
Em3raldGermanson:  Oooh ... I gotcha.  I assume yes, and this might be another one to check in ubuntuforums.org07:06
crimsunnwbreneman: (I just told you...)07:06
godzirraI can't. :(07:06
Che-AnarchFOSS?  what is that?07:06
poningruwhat do you get?07:06
poningrubrb07:06
godzirranothing07:06
godzirrait completely ignores it.07:06
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poningruwhat about f2?07:06
jojoman02nwbreneman, i will be with you within 2 min doing some research07:06
godzirraIt also won't let me open a bash or sh07:06
godzirraI tried f1-f607:06
Lubixbash book to learn with?07:06
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po0fLubix: Google for Advanced Bash Scripting Guide.07:07
crimsunnwbreneman: here, let's just walk through it. What's the output from ``asoundconf list''?07:07
Che-Anarchbash is actually a shell is it?07:07
crimsunChe-Anarch: yes07:07
Praxihow can I tell what ubuntu thinks my hard drives/partitions are if I can't boot into it?  I can get into redhat, just not ubuntu07:07
poningrugodzirra: go to apps->tools->terminal07:07
Che-AnarchIs not*07:07
poningrubut thats weird07:07
nwbrenemancrimsun: sorry, i tried that and it didn't seem to work. i saw two sound cards listed, one being default. i changed the default to the other soundcard, and it didn't work07:07
godzirraI'm using fluxbox.07:07
godzirraI don't have an apps->tools->terminal07:07
godzirraI'm trying to change now though07:07
poningruoh sorry07:07
crimsunnwbreneman: what precise command did you enter?07:07
poningrudont07:07
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  yes indeed07:07
GerMansonfluxbox is for freakies :P07:07
poningruyou cant even open a terminal?07:07
poningrubrb07:08
LubixpoOf:thats a extensive tutorial thanks07:08
nwbrenemancrimsun: asoundconf set-default-card I82801CAICH307:08
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Che-AnarchI never quite got that... the name says shell and in essence its just a bunch of commands  :-p07:08
Praxitalking to me poningru?07:08
Em3raldgodzirra:  what about apps>accessories>terminal07:08
crimsunnwbreneman: did you restart your alsa app(s)?07:08
po0fLubix: Np,  ;)07:08
godzirraI'm restarting my box.  I'm having serious issues. :(07:08
nwbrenemancrimsun: yes, I restarted rhythmbox07:08
crimsunnwbreneman: had you created ~/.asoundrc prior?07:08
nwbrenemancrimsun: yes, I restarted rhythmbox07:08
nwbrenemancrimsun: oops. I meant I don't know how to dot hat07:09
po0fLubix: It's in the repos so you can view it offline, I forget the package name though.07:09
crimsunnwbreneman: no, I mean "did you create an ~/.asoundrc prior to running the asoundconf(1) command"?07:09
GerMansoni am bored, does some one have a suggestion of what would be nice doing with my ubuntu?07:09
Che-AnarchDoes anyone know of any "DJ"-ing app?07:09
godzirraI think my install may have some issues07:09
nwbrenemancrimsun: heh, sorry. I hit the up key accidently.07:09
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godzirraoh well.  I'm going to go to bed and screw with it tomorrow.07:09
Em3raldGermanson:  get Amarok and play with music07:09
GerMansonEm3rald: that is what i am already doing x'D07:09
Em3raldGermanson:  Install yakuake so you have a drop-down terminal all the time :D07:09
poningrugodzirra: I would seriously say choose ubuntu-server install07:09
GerMansonEm3rald: that sounds nice..07:10
godzirraponingru: is htat going to help me get up and running? :)07:10
Em3raldGermanson:  Get addicted to a terminal non-graphical game called crawl .... and addicted you WILL be.07:10
godzirrawith wireless and X?  lol07:10
godzirraponingru: what was that url again?07:10
godzirraso I can write it odwn for tomorrow?07:10
crimsunnwbreneman: please paste the output from ``cat ~/.asoundrc*'' onto http://pastebin.ca07:10
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MikeyMikehow do you find files in the terminal if you have a filename07:10
Praxihow can I tell what ubuntu thinks my hard drives are?07:10
crimsunPraxi: more precisely?07:10
Praximike do a find -name07:10
MikeyMikea filename such as sixpence none the richer - kiss me.mp307:11
MikeyMikePraxi,  name being the filename?07:11
GerMansonEm3rald: can i use yakuake with gnome?07:11
godzirrafind / -name name07:11
po0fMikeyMike: find -type f -name "name"07:11
Em3raldGerManson:  Yup, though transparency doesnt work07:11
Praxino find -name sixpence*07:11
poningrugodzirra: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb07:11
wickedpuppyMikeyMike, sudo find / -name "filename" -print <-- that will find top down from / ... replace it whatever you like07:11
jojoman02nwbreneman, i don't see any easy way to do this, besides messing with config files, you should ask in the alsa channel those guys would know more (when they are available)07:11
MikeyMikethanks07:11
godzirraThanks poningru, for all your help.07:11
Em3raldGerManson and you have to add a link in your sessions to make it boot every time you start.07:11
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godzirraI'm going to bed and I'll work on it tomorrow :)07:11
GerMansonEm3rald: oks :)07:11
poningrunn07:11
Praxicrimsun I installed Ubuntu, but grub install did not over write redhats07:11
nwbrenemancrimsun: i submitted it07:11
Praxiso I cant boot into it07:11
crimsunnwbreneman: what's the url, please?07:12
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nwbrenemancrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/21469607:12
nwbrenemancrimsun: neat website, by the way07:12
Praxiafter much fiddling, I got ubu's grub installed on the partition that ubu is installed to07:12
Em3raldGermanson:  Get Beryl going (or Compiz) and play with the rotating cube options.07:12
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crimsunPraxi: you wouldn't want a new Linux install to overwrite another's, I presume07:12
Em3rald(do a search on Youtube.com for a video of Compiz)07:12
Praxiya not the install, just the grub hehe07:12
jojoman02nwbreneman: actually try this webpage if you don't messing with conf files http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t48385.html07:12
GerMansonEm3rald: i was in love with that cube. but not i prefer plain Xorg.07:13
GerMansonbut now*07:13
crimsunPraxi: it should have been added to the existing grub conffile07:13
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PraxiI got both OS's installed, I'm halfway there, got BOTH grubs coming up07:13
Praxiit wasn't :(07:13
keithhhhanyone know how I can mount my compact flash card (inside a PCMCIA port) My system can see it when I look under Disk Manager"?07:13
Em3raldGerManson:  Yeah ... I am back to xorg most of the time too ... my screen is too dark for the cube.07:13
crimsunPraxi: with 6.06.1 LTS or 6.10?07:13
crimsun6.10 RC, that is07:13
GerMansonoh my god07:13
GerMansonyakuake is good07:13
GerMansonlol07:13
Praxitried both actually07:13
tnncanyone know of some docs about installing coppermine photo gallery on ubuntu07:13
Em3raldGermanson:  Hahah .... that's what I thought too .... lots of config options (though not all work in Gnome)07:13
crimsunnwbreneman: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' output to the correct device?07:13
Praxithink I stopped on 6.10 though07:13
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YournameHello, if wpa_supplicant supports my card, does that mean I don't need any other drivers for it?07:14
crimsunnwbreneman: (you can substitute any wav file)07:14
Em3raldUnimportant question people:  Is it feasable (or even advisable) to use LILO instead of GRUB?07:14
GerMansonhow can i change qt' apps look from gnome?07:14
nwbrenemancrimsun: no, I don't hear anything07:14
PraxiI can mount the ubu /07:14
Praxiis there a file or something I can look at that shows like hard drives it detected?07:14
Praxiso that way I can tell its local grub what to look at?07:15
crimsunnwbreneman: are the speakers/headphones/output devices plugged into the correct jack(s)? :)07:15
keithhhhanyone know how I can mount my compact flash card (inside a PCMCIA port) My system can see it when I look under Disk Manager"?07:15
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nwbrenemancrimsun: yes :)07:15
crimsunnwbreneman: now please pastebin ``amixer''07:15
LookTJomg i deleted everything important07:15
Em3raldkeithhh yes07:15
GerMansonhow can i change qt' apps look from gnome?07:15
LookTJi did "apt-get remove postfix libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail"07:16
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Em3raldkeithhh:  I think you have to find out what /dev/hd?? it uses ......07:16
keithhhhEm3rald: how?07:16
Em3raldkeithhh ... jussasec.07:16
keithhhhEm3rald: ok it uses hde07:16
nwbrenemancrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/21469907:16
Praxidf -h07:16
manmadhacan any one tell where the files of cc compiler sored...?plz07:16
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po0fmanmadha: Huh?07:16
po0fmanmadha: Are you asking where it puts the binary after you compile a program?07:17
keithhhhEm3rald: it uses hde according to the disk manager07:17
manmadhapo0f, there is some error in my cc compiler07:17
Railerin apt-get -y what does the -y do?07:17
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po0fmanmadha: What kind of error?07:17
Praxikeithhh so should be similar to mount /dev/hde /misc07:17
bcswill Beryl work using an old Nvidia RIVA TNT M64 Pro graphics card07:17
manmadhapo0f, there is no conio.h file..07:17
Em3raldkeithhh:  Okay, do you know what filesystem is is?07:17
Em3raldsudo fdisk -l07:17
Praxiassuming its not auto mounting07:17
keithhhhwindows fat07:17
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keithhhhEm3rald: windows virtual fat07:18
Praxithought linux could read fat/fat32 np?07:18
po0fmanmadha: conio.h is a Windows file, I believe there was a project that ported it to Linux.  I forget the name though.07:18
theDtTvBUhh, hello.07:18
Praxiso should still be /mount hehe07:18
jojoman02nwbreneman: omg, so easy do this, System> Preferences> Sound>07:18
Em3raldkeithhh:  Okay, as Praxi said, something like mount /dev/hde /whatever/directory/you/choose07:18
YournameHello, if wpa_supplicant supports my card, does that mean I don't need any other drivers for it?07:18
ed_wickedpuppy, hey wicked, if im running a httpd do i need bind9 or can i just use ath.cx?07:18
theDtTvBI got some TTF fonts and wanted to install them. What should I do?07:19
Em3raldkeithhh:  just make sure you have created the target directory first.07:19
GerMansonhow can i change qt' apps look from gnome?07:19
Em3raldkeithhh:  and it has to be an empty folder.  I use stuff like sudo mkdir /media/removable07:19
crimsunnwbreneman: amixer set 'IEC958' off07:19
wickedpuppyed_, can you view your page from server itself ?07:19
crimsunnwbreneman: after executing that command, is sound audible through the integrated sound chipset?07:19
keithhhhEm3rald: cool thanks by the way if I wasnt using Gnome hwo would I have know its dev/hde??07:19
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LookTJI deleted the update-manager07:19
Em3raldsudo fdisk -l07:19
poningruYourname: what is your card's chipset?07:19
ed_wickedpuppy, naw not yet but im getting close, i telneted my wan ip and i can see the banner07:20
Praxiif I have a unbootable install, that I can mount in another OS, is there a way to look at a device list to see what HD's that unbootable install thinks there are?07:20
LookTJ:'(07:20
Yournameponingru: I think it needs the Prism2 driver.07:20
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greg_Can someone help with ndiswrapper?07:20
ed_wickedpuppy, but it isnt showing on firefox07:20
Em3raldPraxi:  whoa ... who's on first?07:20
Yournameponingru: I tried to find out more, but couldn't. It's a D-link DWL-G122 Rev A2 USB adapter.07:20
Praxihehe Em3rald07:20
Daveyanyone know anything about mounting HFS+ on ubuntu?07:20
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nwbrenemancrimsun: sorry, I still can't hear anything07:21
Praxibeen screwing with ubuntu for 2 days now, so close, don't want to give up yet :)07:21
greg_My brother is on the phone and he is trying to switch from window to ubuntu but we are having ndiswrapper trouble.  Can anyone help?07:21
godzirraone last question07:21
crimsunnwbreneman: and after this?  amixer set 'External Amplifier' off07:21
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godzirrawhere do I download an edgy net install iso?07:21
ed_wickedpuppy, yea i tried lynx on the server byitself and it shows07:21
Em3raldPraxi:  I am way out of my element on that question .... I have no idea whatsoever.07:21
theDtTvBUhh, please help, how do I install fonts?07:21
crimsungodzirra: which $arch?07:21
godzirrai38607:22
Praxiroger, was hoping someone would know like if it stores in a file somewhere :)07:22
crimsungodzirra: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/07:22
Che-AnarchWhat about selling points of Ubuntu in comparison to other falvours of Linux?07:22
Em3raldtheDtTvB:  place font files in your ~/.fonts directory I believe .... anyone confirm?07:22
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godzirradanke07:22
crimsunbitte07:22
GerMansonI cant send files in aMSN, does ubuntu has some firewall blocking my transfers?07:22
asymmetryscheisse?07:22
theDtTvBThank you, I will try.07:22
nwbrenemancrimsun: no, still nothing07:22
poningruYourname: that should work out of the box for you07:22
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  One of the biggest is the support.  Ubuntuforums.org, the Ubuntu wiki, and this IRC channel are some examples.07:22
PraxiChe-Anarch: not that I can get ubuntu working, but theres 1000 people in its IRC support channel? :)07:22
godzirracrimsun: uhh, mini.iso?07:22
poningruGerManson: nope07:23
crimsungodzirra: sure07:23
keithhhhEm3rald: thanks again Im going to try now  ;)07:23
crimsunnwbreneman: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 007:23
asymmetryHow can I find the UUID of a partition?07:23
godzirra8 megs just seems awfully small.  Even for a net install iso07:23
Em3raldkeithhhh:  let me know how it goes.07:23
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Che-AnarchHmmm... not easy of installation/ use?07:23
Che-Anarchease*07:23
Yournameponingru: haha, I wish it did.  It didn't work at all.07:23
greg_no one can help with ndiswrapper on a bcmwl5 card? :-/07:23
crimsungodzirra: that's because it's a true netinstall. It's a PXE boot.07:23
Praximainly my problem07:23
Che-AnarchOr is there other flavours out there easier?  :-p07:23
godzirraahh, ok.07:23
godzirrathanks.07:23
Praxibut not wanting to destroy my whole box just to install ubuntu hehe07:23
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  well, under most circumstances, this one is the easiest *I* have ever used, definitely.07:23
nwbrenemancrimsun: nothing after that, either07:23
landoive got an old pc i want to install ubuntu on but i cant make it boot from the cd anyone got any ideas or links to boot floppys07:24
Yournameponingru: I plugged it in, and it didn't work. I had a feeling it would too, but it didn't.. so I went to DriverLoader. www.linuxant.org07:24
poningruYourname: hmm can you see it in the networking?07:24
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Em3raldlando:  are we assuming you burned the CD correctly?07:24
poningrusystem->admin->networking07:24
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Yournameponingru: Now I can.07:24
Praxican distro's share a boot partition?07:24
Yournameponingru: Before driverloader, I couldn;t.07:24
crimsunnwbreneman: and  amixer set 'IEC958 Mute' off   ?07:24
landoyea the cd is burnt fine07:24
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pestilencedoes /bin/sh in edgy follow POSIX standards more strictly?07:24
poningruoh ok...07:24
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crimsunpestilence: dash? Yes.07:25
AsheDcrimsun:: what?07:25
Em3raldlando:  the reason I ask is that it's common for people just to burn the ISO directly, and not actually burn the CD as an Image.07:25
pestilencecrimsun, interesting.  it breaks whereami07:25
asymmetryMore specifically, how do I find the UUID of an NTFS partition to use in /etc/fstab?07:25
yakumohi can u help me how to use my msi bluetooth on my ubuntu?07:25
AsheDeh, nvm07:25
crimsunAsheD: ?07:25
nwbrenemancrimsun: still nothing, sorry07:25
Yournameponingru: I was thinking I should do a fresh install again and see it if works.07:25
tonyyarussocrimsun: Any URL for more info on the difference dash vs bash that I could read?07:25
AsheDcrimsun:: sorry, nick I use on other servers07:25
theDtTvBIt doesn't show up. What should I do now? Restart my computer?07:25
landoi understand. im actually using ubuntu right now and i installed with the same cd07:25
Em3raldPraxi:  as far as I know, you can have multiple Linux os's using the same bootloader.07:26
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Yournameponingru: Even if I do, and I can't see it in Networking, shall wpa_supplicant work for me?07:26
crimsunnwbreneman: ok, please install aumix and use that program from a terminal to adjust the volume(s)07:26
nwbrenemancrimsun: certainly07:26
Em3raldlando:  Okay cool.  As far as boot floppies, I don't think such a thing exists.07:26
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crimsuntonyyarusso: a Web search will be more fruitful, I think07:27
Em3raldlando:  when you say "old" ... how old are we talking?07:27
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tonyyarussocrimsun: 'k07:27
pestilenceis edgy frozen?  is it too late to get in bugfixes?07:27
landowell its a 566 mhz with 192 megs of ram and 14 gigs of hd07:27
crimsuntonyyarusso: there's at least one not-so-current page; I don't remember the URL off the top of my skull07:27
tonyyarussopestilence: #ubuntu+107:27
pestilenceugh.07:27
pestilenceoh.07:27
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Em3raldlando:  Okay, specs are alright.  Umm ... stupid question, though ... is it a bios thing, where it's not checking the CDRom for a boot disk?07:28
crimsunpestilence: Edgy is definitely frozen, and unless the bugfix is non-invasive and fixes an absolutely critical issue, we likely will not consider it til post-release.07:28
pestilencetonyyarusso, my responses are screwy, i think i ate something bad.07:28
Em3rald(and it runs better with 256 by FAR)07:28
poningruYourname: didnt you just say it shows up in networking?07:28
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nwbrenemancrimsun: still not working07:28
landoi just flashed the bios and have tried every configuration and nothing07:28
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crimsunnwbreneman: what did you adjust in aumix?07:28
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poningru!wifi07:28
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:28
JbirkMy ubuntu has problems07:28
JbirkI hangs on thermal07:28
Jbirkany ideas?07:28
nwbrenemancrimsun: i just turned all of the volumes up07:28
Em3raldlando:  Wacky.  Okay ... another relatively dumb question:  is it the live install disk or the alternate install?07:29
GerMansondo you know ay app that organizes your music in folders like iTunes does?07:29
logankoesterAnyone know how to build cdemu from source? I'm getting the error 'No rule to make `cdemu.ko`, needed by `modules`.'07:29
Yournameponingru: But only after installing driverloader :(07:29
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landolive07:29
GerMansondo you know ay app that organices your music in folders like iTunes does?07:29
Em3raldlando:  and you don't get the menu at all?07:29
matkamHello, I am trying to compile something using boost, and I need to know whatversion of gcc was used to compile boost since i am having some linking errors. Is there any way to find this information out?07:29
poningruYourname: its a prism2 usb right?07:29
Yournameponingru: Yup.07:29
Yournameponingru: Or so I think.07:30
Em3raldlando:  another side note ... on that machine, you might find xubuntu runs smoother.  It's better for "legacy" machines07:30
poningruwhats the model number of your usb device?07:30
crimsunnwbreneman: can you take a screenshot of it?07:30
landoim not sure what u mean by the menu07:30
pestilencecrimsun, ok...the bug is for a package in universe anyways (whereami)...i guess not too many people use it, because it's a showstopper07:30
nwbrenemancrimsun: i guess i could. where do I upload it?07:30
Yournameponingru: Dlink DWL-G122 Rev A207:31
landoit doesnt boot to the cd but when i put in the cd while in windows it gives me a menu but to check out the software in ubuntu07:31
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Em3raldlando:  when ya slap the CD in the drive, do you get a menu asking you if you want to boot the Ubuntu live CD etc etc.07:31
Em3raldlando gotcha07:31
GerMansondo you know ay app that organices your music in folders like iTunes does?07:31
poningruYourname: hmm hold on07:31
Yournameponingru: Thanks dude!07:31
pestilenceGerManson, amarok07:31
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ink251Rythmbox, comes with ubuntu07:31
crimsunnwbreneman: choose a pastebin that allows uploading jpegs07:31
poningruYourname: ok you should be able to use it now actually... did you try configuring it?07:32
GerMansonpestilence: nope!! ... i mean.. moving files, changin files names.. etc.07:32
crimsunpestilence: have you filed a bug on it?07:32
Em3raldlando:  I am not entirely sure where to go from here, except to tell you to try either 1.  the alternate install CD, or 2. Xubuntu; otherwise, I would blame it on your BIOS settings not looking for the CDROM first at boot time.07:32
nwbrenemancrimsun: heh, uh, I just realized I don't know how to take a screenshot with x/ubuntu07:32
pestilencecrimsun, i just discovered it when i upgraded to edgy 1 hour ago.  i will file a bug.  and i think i have a fix, but i have to kill network to try it07:32
Yournameponingru: Even with WPA2? And do you mean out of the box, on a fresh install? On a fresh install it never showed up in Networking untill I installed Driverloader. :(07:32
logankoesteranyone know how to get cdemu?07:32
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poningruYourname: ok on fresh install it should not have detected it...07:33
pestilencecrimsun, basically, he used bash syntax but specified /bin/sh07:33
AsheDare there any commandline mp3 taggers that support id3v2 AND use an ISO charset?07:33
poningruYourname: the correct method was to install linux-wlan-ng07:33
landowell thanks anyways Em3rald. if it doesn't work i think i might kick it out the window07:33
poningruYourname: sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng07:33
poningruhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb07:33
Em3raldlando:  that's horrible :/ :D07:33
Che-AnarchWould it be fair to say the Open Source in most cases (as far as end-user is concerned) is free (of cost)?07:34
crimsunnwbreneman: import(1)07:34
Yournameponingru: After a fresh install, that's what I need to get to make it work right away?07:34
tonyyarussoChe-Anarch: It can be, but doesn't have to be.07:34
landoheh yea its a box for my pops and i wanted him to have a linux box to play and learn with. oh well07:34
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  as a very general statement, I would say a cautious "yes"07:34
poningruYourname: yep07:34
Yournameponingru: WOW, thanks so much dude. You've been one guy who actually explained it properly.07:34
crimsunpestilence: yes, please file a bug. bashisms should be straightforward and no-brainers to admit.07:34
poningrujust install the package linux-wlan-ng07:34
Che-AnarchI am taking this with reference to the majority of things out there for Linux as a whole (baring in mind Repos)07:34
poningruyep np07:34
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  In the context of most thing Ubuntu, yes.07:35
tonyyarussoChe-Anarch: Would be happy to discuss more in #ubuntu-offtopic; see what you're getting at.07:35
pestilencecrimsun, ok, will do.  and will brb if it works.07:35
poningruYourname: it seems though you cannot use it with wpa07:35
nwbrenemancrimsun: I'm still new to some aspects of ubuntu. I figured import was a terminal command, so I ran it, but bash doesn't recognize it07:35
poningruyou can use it with wep though07:35
Yournameponingru: So, on a fresh install, I i get that package, and then it shows up in Networking, and then what do I need to do to connect to WPA?07:35
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Yournameponingru: My grandad uses WEP :P07:35
Che-AnarchI was already there no one to discuse with   :-p07:35
crimsunnwbreneman: it's part of the 'imagemagick' package.07:35
tnnc?join #ubuntu-offtopic07:35
nwbrenemancrimsun: I'll install that then07:35
Em3raldChe-Anarch:  I am going there now :D07:35
poningruYourname: unfortunately that driver doesnt allow usage of wpa :(07:35
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Yournameponingru: I know.. :( So how do I do it?07:36
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poningruYourname: doesnt seem like you can07:37
poningrubut hold on still looking07:37
nwbrenemancrimsun: okay, I installed and used the command import, but it says it's missing an image name07:37
nwbrenemancrimsun: nevermind, read the manual file07:37
Yournameponingru: Well, according to what I saw.. I'd need to mess around a little with wpa_supplicant.07:37
Yournameponingru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo -> What do you think?07:38
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pestilencecrimsun, yes, that fixed it.  filing a bug as we speak07:38
crimsunpestilence: thanks.07:38
poningruYourname: hold on07:39
JbirkHow do I troubleshoot ubuntu on a machine that  won't boot?07:39
poningruYourname: ah here we go07:40
poningruso non-usb prism can do wap07:40
pestilencecrimsun, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/whereami/+bug/6749907:40
nwbrenemancrimsun: how do I find a pastebin that will take jpgs?07:40
poningrufor usb its still being worked on07:40
Yournameponingru: There you go, you helped me 7 times. I helped you once.07:40
crimsunnwbreneman: Web search :)07:40
poningru;)07:40
Yournameponingru: But.. but, mine is a USB adapter! lol07:40
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poningruyeah I know :(07:41
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poningru!java07:41
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:41
Kamping_Kaisercan someone save? my brainds just failed :| whats the command to remove services from init.d?07:41
Kamping_Kaisersudo $command apmd and it removes it07:41
pestilenceKamping_Kaiser, update-rc.d07:41
Kamping_Kaiseryay. *hugs pestilence *07:41
poningru...07:41
nwbrenemancrimsun: i have no idea what to look for07:42
Yournameponingru: So you think it won't work? :(07:42
crimsunpestilence: unfortunately the correct fix is really to fix the bashism. I'll look at it in a few hours.07:42
poningruYourname: if it worked using driverloader then I would say you should try to use that instead of the 'official' method07:42
Yournameponingru: The only thing is, the driver works. The only problem is making it connect to a WPA network.07:43
pestilencecrimsun, that's true.  but i'm not familiar enough with correct syntax for /bin/sh to fix it myself.07:43
Em3raldis there an official "supported hardware list"?07:43
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crimsunnwbreneman: "pastebin jpg attachment"07:43
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poningruYourname: any reason you are using wpa? wep is plenty secure if you use big enough password07:44
Yournameponingru: Because 16 other connectors use WPA2 :S07:44
poningrusorry dude :(07:44
YournameIt's all good man. No worries.07:44
YournameYou helped me enough.07:44
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YournameThanks a lot, doing a fresh install now.07:44
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nwbrenemancrimsun: here, i just uploaded it to my server. www.influenceme.net/screenshot.jpg07:45
YournameOkie dokie, g'night mate.07:45
poningrunn07:46
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HooveyyHey guys07:46
HooveyyCan someone tell me what "sudo rw -r /" would do?07:46
po0fNothing?07:46
ArrenLexrw isn't a command.07:46
crimsunthankfully not what you intend. :)07:46
ArrenLexYou mean rm.07:47
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nwbrenemanheh07:47
ArrenLexWhich would delete your entire filesystem.07:47
ArrenLexthis = bad.07:47
HooveyyI ran rm -r / under root07:47
HooveyyBy accident07:47
ArrenLexGood job!07:47
HooveyyHow do I fix it?07:47
HooveyyGRUB wont load07:47
DBOyou dont07:47
Hooveyy;(07:47
DBOits gone07:47
ArrenLexBy reinstalling.07:47
pestilenceHooveyy, with your carefully executed backup, of course07:47
ArrenLexHow did you manage to run that command by accident?07:47
crimsunnwbreneman: ah, try increasing IGain07:47
HooveyyI was pissing around in terminal with sudo su07:48
Hooveyyso I was logged in as root07:48
HooveyyAnd I wanted to see what it did07:48
DBOHooveyy, thats a bad idea...07:48
HooveyySo I ran it,07:48
ArrenLexWell, now you know to use the bathroom rather than the terminal, don't you.07:48
HooveyyAnd like, nothing would work07:48
DBOHooveyy, its gone... sorry man07:48
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ArrenLexHooveyy: yeah, that's kind of what happens when you delete all files.07:48
crimsunnwbreneman: sorry, have to take a phone call now.07:48
po0fI'll actually try that later tonight, hehe.07:48
Hooveyyhow was i supposed to know what rm - r / does!?07:48
ArrenLexDo you know that rm is 'remove'?07:49
ArrenLexAnd that / is the root filesystem?07:49
DBOHooveyy, asking here would have been a good way to find out07:49
ArrenLexIsn't that enough information to tip you off?07:49
utnubuwhen i do gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf i get a msg saying authentication was rejected,07:49
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utnubuwhat am i doing wrong07:49
nwbrenemancrimsun: no problem. I need to go now anyway. I'll fiddle with it later. thanks immensely for your help!07:49
HooveyyYeah07:49
pestilenceutnubu, you are looking in the mirror07:49
HooveyyI know what / is07:49
Hooveyy>_>07:49
HooveyyGrr, now I have to reinstall07:49
utnubuoh07:49
pestilenceutnubu, are you entering in your password?07:50
utnubui am trying to share home folders with read/write access has authentication07:50
ArrenLexIf you were like "oh, let's run a command which includes 'remove' and 'all my filesystem' as the administrator and hope NOTHING BAD HAPPENS! :D" then I'm sorry, there's just nothing we can do to help ypu.07:50
utnubuit dosnt ask for it, and then where in the line should i add it07:50
HooveyyNo, I didn't know what rm did07:50
HooveyyAs always, I tried it07:50
HooveyyI once did a command that would restart x every second07:50
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pestilenceutnubu, when you type gksudo gedit, it is supposed to ask for your password07:51
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Jbirk) Hooveyy: ;07:51
utnubuno it dosnt ask for a passwd or anything07:51
Jbirk) Hooveyy: ; um you could use man07:51
JbirkP.s. never test a command with sudo in front of it07:51
sky123hi guys...i asked on edubuntu site too..but im tftp/pxe booting a thin client and used the rom-tool to create an etherboot disk..and get a no BIOS32 detected message...can someone helpout??07:51
Jbirkor from the # prompt07:51
utnubudo i haft to be root to do it07:51
sky123is it the wrong driver??07:51
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HooveyyOkay I also need help with something07:52
HooveyyYou know how like07:52
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HooveyyIt's supposed to show install a LAMP server in the boot menu thing07:52
pestilenceutnubu, try "sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf"07:52
HooveyyWell mine doesn't show that07:52
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Hooveyyhow do I install the Ubuntu Server?07:52
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utnubuya nano worked thank you very much07:53
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noctianybody knows a good video converter that recognizes the different formats of avi and for wmv, dvd support too. thanks.07:53
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jdtnocti - install the codecs using automatix07:54
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jonathanmathew01 /msg NETID password07:55
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HooveyyI'll ask my question again,07:56
jdtnocti - automatix should help you with your vid codecs07:56
HooveyySo, I try installing Ubuntu, and I want to install Ubuntu Server, so, it says there should be an option called "INSTALL LAMP SERVER", but on mine there isn't07:57
HooveyyHow would I install the Ubuntu Server?07:57
jdtDid you use the server iso?07:57
HooveyyThere isn't one :S07:57
NewTricksteryes there is.07:57
HooveyyLink?07:57
HooveyyThe server download link links to the page with the main ISOs.07:58
NewTricksterOn the main site07:58
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HooveyyIt links to http://www.ubuntu.com/download07:58
HooveyyOhh07:58
NewTrickster your options to download are:desktop, server and alternate07:58
HooveyyNevermind, found it :D07:58
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NewTricksteryou should have all three.07:58
jdtI have never installed the -server iso, but there is one in the download mirrors. it is ubuntu-version-server or desktop etc07:58
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HooveyyYeah - downloading the ISO for the server now07:59
HooveyyThanks07:59
jdtanyway - LAMP should be Linux Apache MySQL and Python... hehe08:00
NewTricksterAre you trying to make a LAMP sever?08:00
HooveyyNow I am, yes08:00
NewTricksterI'd start with server.08:00
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NewTricksterI'm doing something similar; however , I'm using desktop and putting LAMP on that08:00
HooveyyWhy is the server ISO 432MB only?08:01
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HooveyyAlso, can I order server CDs from ubuntu?08:01
NewTricksterso I can have the destop in place to do work on it.08:01
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jdtserver iso has less desktopy stuff08:01
NewTricksterNone of the graphical apps,  I assume08:01
rredd4i read somewhere that there is not a much control with lamp as there is with the server install08:01
HooveyyHeh, okay08:01
HooveyySo I have to manually get X, etc?08:01
cypher1_how do i get the brightness controls in System->Preferences->Power Management08:01
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NewTricksteryeah,  that's why I decieded on. the Desktop & LAMP path08:02
jdtyour best bet would be to install the desktop version, then just use synaptic in gnome to select Apache, MySQL and PHP. then you will basically have a LAMP server (some config required)08:02
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NewTricksterOtherwise you have to put Gnome on and all the apps that you want.08:02
Hooveyyjdt: no,08:03
HooveyyI tried that08:03
HooveyyMYSQL failed08:03
HooveyyAnd 2 hours of googling, config-ing, and more didn't help.08:03
NewTricksterMYSQL fails often upon install in most OS's.08:03
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HooveyyAh,08:03
HooveyyDoesn't on Windows :p08:03
NewTricksterYou have to work at getting it to work.08:03
Hooveyythe server ISO is 30% done anyways08:03
Hooveyy800KB/S download rate08:03
jdtthus the - some config required statement :)  I am sure it is the same on server with LAMP option08:04
NewTrickster I've made a WAMP server for a demo a couple of years ago and it worked just great.08:04
po0fFrom a server install, can't you just `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`?08:04
Hooveyyyes08:04
Hooveyyand it'll install gnome08:04
Hooveyykubuntu-desktop installs kde, xubuntu-desktop installs xfce I think08:04
Hooveyyis there an edubuntu-desktop?08:04
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NewTrickster Hooveyy: Yes he is correct, but mine didn't work when I tried it.08:05
manmadhaHooveyy, ya it is easyubuntu08:05
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chuckypDon't use easyubuntu08:05
HooveyyWhy?08:05
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Hooveyy:p08:05
chuckyp!easyubuntu08:05
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:05
ZirJokerhi everybody08:05
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rredd4i install ubuntu-desktop.. getting slocate errors... cannot seem to fix..08:06
ZirJokeri wanna know if there is a command that allows me to download a file08:06
chuckypHooveyy, use at your own risk don't come crying here when it breaks stuff that you could have installed a lot easier with synaptic08:06
HooveyyWhoa, that's so cool.08:06
po0fwget?08:06
NewTricksterI still think Desktop & LAMP is the best choice here, I have asked on some other boards and gotten the same response.08:06
chuckypZirJoker, wget08:06
manmadhaZirJoker, wget08:06
HooveyyWait, easyubuntu breaks things?08:06
ZirJoker:O08:06
HooveyyBoo.08:06
ZirJokerthx08:06
chuckypZirJoker, wget http://www.whatever.com/filetodownload08:06
HooveyyAptitude is so easy.08:06
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po0fHooveyy: Anything that goes behind your back to install stuff breaks things.  ;)08:06
ZirJokerthx08:06
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yakumohello08:07
NewTricksterDon't know about Easy, but desktop just didn't work well, mine was partially broke.08:07
ANTDx1hello everyone08:07
Vaske_CarHow to install java?08:07
yakumoany idea what is this error all about?08:07
yakumofiles list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline08:07
yakumoErrors were encountered while processing:08:07
jdtwhat version of java ???08:07
Vaske_Carnew08:07
jdtsun java?08:07
ANTDx1I'm having some issues upgrading to 6.1008:07
Vaske_Caris there 2?08:07
NewTricksterHooveyy:  Good Luck with your server,  I'm headed off to bed have to be in Chicago tomorrow.08:08
jdtyes, there are many variants - the default in ubuntu is blackdown08:08
ANTDx1Upgrading went fine, until I restarted.  My GUI no longer appears to be working.08:08
chuckypANTDx1, edgy support is in #ubuntu-108:08
HooveyyThanks new,08:08
manmadhais there any advantage using FreeBsd for server administration .....08:08
HooveyyHave fun in chicago,08:08
NewTricksterNITE08:08
chuckypANTDx1, err #ubuntu+108:08
Vaske_Carwhat should I install than? It ask for Mozilla that I need java...08:08
jdtVaske_Car - what version of ubuntu are you running?08:08
ZirJokerdoes anyone knows where can i get rapidly the "nexiuz" game?08:08
ANTDx1thank you, chuckyp08:08
Vaske_Car6.0608:08
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AdamKilimy Windows key doesn't seem to do anything. how can i test that ubuntu even knows it's there?08:08
Vaske_Carupdated08:08
jonathanmathew01has anyone ever converted an ATX power supply into a non-atx.. i have a dell pen3 that i am trying to make into a server but the old power supply went down, and the only thing i can get here is ATX08:08
chuckyp!info nexiuz08:08
ubotuPackage nexiuz does not exist in any distro I know08:09
Hooveyyyay, 60% done for the ubuntu server cd.08:09
rredd4crimsun  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/    everything i tried does not work.. any ideas please08:09
ginyiphi everyone, I looking for help on fglrx issues. I am using 64bit ubuntu dapper. I use the newest ATI 8.29.6 driver for my ATI X1600 graphic card. Now my X can start, everything seem fine. BUT when I try to fglrxinfor / glxinfo | grep render, I see my graphic card X1600 show up and direct rendering = yes. but then my whole system freeze. I need to do a hard reset to reboot my system. Looking for help on this pls help08:09
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jdtVaske_Car: Check out www.getautomatix.com08:09
manmadhais there any advantage using FreeBsd for server administration .....08:09
chuckypjonathanmathew01, You can still buy AT power supplies08:09
chuckyp!patience > manmadha08:09
ZirJokeras far as i know i can play it in my ubuntu isnt it true?08:09
jdtIt is a great app to install some very useful apps for ubuntu. Including Sun Java 1.5 JRE and JDK.08:10
jdtIt has versions for 6.06 and 6.10 - so make sure you pick the correct one08:10
Vaske_Carjdt, was just startd typing question about that software :)08:10
chuckypNo AUTOMATIX IS THE DEVIL08:10
chuckyp!automatix08:10
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!08:10
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jdtI have used it a lot - works very well :)08:10
ZirJokerxd08:11
ZirJokerxD08:11
jdtoops08:11
ZirJokerits for novices like me xD08:11
jdt:)08:11
ZirJokerdows anyone plays nexiuz in his ubuntu?08:11
BHSPitLappyeasyubuntu is more widely accepted, and not thought of as evil, like automatix08:11
HooveyyAutomatix IS the devil.08:11
AdamKilihow can i test if ubuntu knows my windows key is there? i want to assign the command 3ddesk to it08:11
chuckypjdt, well I've seen it break a lot of stuff alos08:11
jdtautomatix hasnt ever broken anything for me - and its certainly a fast way to get sun java installed.08:12
HooveyyEasyUbuntu isn't so ..... system-borking.08:12
chuckypBoth easyubuntu and automatix are just bad ideas.08:12
HooveyyWell, they're good for the world's biggest 5 year old noobs08:12
ZirJokerdoes anyone plays nexiuz in his ubuntu??08:12
chuckypjdt, How do you figure ?  Its just a package either way?  I don't see the benefit?08:12
HooveyyMy friend booted into a Ubuntu LiveCD and went nuts because his window borders look different.08:12
BHSPitLappyAdamKili, it does... it's called the Super Key, by the way08:12
BHSPitLappylol08:12
BHSPitLappyfreak08:12
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manmadhaZirJoker, ya i tried it but the game is strucking while playing08:13
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AdamKiliBHSPitLappy: how can i test? and in this guide i got it calls it Super_L08:13
jdtchuckyp: agreed - but for codecs, etc etc... its just a convenient 'get everything working' script. it is afterall just a script to a few extra repos at the end of the day08:13
po0fWhich system-killer command should I use tonight?08:13
BHSPitLappyAdamKili, that makes sense, super left08:13
manmadhapo0f, i think xkill08:13
manmadha