[12:01] <Buzzygirl> hello
[12:01] <YoG> TPGO: btw, both of the also give me: "umount: /dev/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)"
[12:01] <dcordes> where can i set which volume is controled by the hotkeys of my keyboard?
[12:01] <AsheD> has anybody here used the id3v2 command?
[12:01] <elfranger> no
[12:01] <YoG> no
[12:01] <elfranger> noone has
[12:01] <conreyt> seb--: it's in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:02] <Buzzygirl> anyone here using Edgy now?
[12:02] <LjL> !edgy > buzzygirl
[12:02] <johnny__> in this statement "in order to install ndiswrapper you need a copy the windows drivers for your Wireless ethernet device" do i need to download the latest driver for my wireless card or ar there actually "windows drivers" that i need???
[12:02] <dbmerk> LjL: Can you help answer an install question?
[12:02] <dcordes> Buzzygirl: i think there are many people here who do. but if you want to discuss edgy related things better go to #ubuntu+1
[12:02] <LjL> !ask
[12:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <seb--> conreyt: thanks
[12:03] <dbmerk> i did already
[12:03] <dbmerk> is there a way to force bad block checking when formatting a hard drive? My install is failing when copying files at the same point (70%) no matter the underlying file system (reiserfs or ext3)
[12:03] <YoG> TPGO: are you still here?
[12:03] <conreyt> seb--: no problem :)
[12:03] <TGPO> YoG: here now
[12:03] <johnny__> anyone plz?
[12:03] <YoG> TPGO: I get "umount: /dev/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)"
[12:03] <Buzzygirl> I don't use Edgy yet, just wondering if many Ubuntu users do
[12:04] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: tnx man, managed to solve problem now :)
[12:04] <Buzzygirl> I like Dapper for now
[12:04] <LjL> dbmerk: "fsck -t ext3 -c" i guess
[12:04] <LjL> dbmerk: err, that is "mkfs" not "fsck" ;)
[12:04] <TGPO> johnny__ before playing with ndiswrapper read the install guides on the wiki, repeatedly
[12:04] <dbmerk> ljl: during the install? ok, how do i get to a shell?
[12:04] <johnny__> ic
[12:05] <LjL> dbmerk: ctrl+alt+f2
[12:05] <dbmerk> k, thankx
[12:05] <graveson> i have a firefox extension that i cannot uninstall (unnstall button greyed out) - anyone has any ideason how i can do this
[12:05] <YoG> TPGO: I get "umount: /dev/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)"
[12:05] <talisein> {_-IcE-_}: great
[12:05] <LjL> dbmerk: what the mkfs.ext3 manpage says about the "-c" option is "Check the device for bad blocks before creating the file system.  If this option is specified twice, then a slower, read-write test is used instead of a fast read-only test"
[12:05] <RMorris84> Seveas: when im trying to put music on this thing now it says "there isnt enough space" but its 128mb and im just trying to put one mp3 on it
[12:05] <dcordes> Buzzygirl: i tried it. i noticed some small approvements in the apps. but there were a lot of problems like i couldn't install my VGA
[12:05] <dcordes> so i switched back to dapper
[12:05] <{_-IcE-_}> talisein: can you maybe suggest me a decent yet easy to setup webmail pls ?
[12:05] <Seveas> RMorris84, did you format it after messing around with cfdisk?
[12:06] <RMorris84> yes
[12:06] <RMorris84> well i dunno
[12:06] <LjL> dbmerk: (or, for that matter, you could just launch a Gnome terminal, that's as good as a console)
[12:06] <Seveas> RMorris84, then make sure you have ;)
[12:06] <RMorris84> can i do that with cfdisk?
[12:07] <YoG> TPGO: actually, I don't even have /dev/sda1 or 2...
[12:07] <axa-axa> Hi, does anyone know when should the next version of Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) be released?
[12:07] <Seveas> RMorris84, no
[12:07] <LjL> !schedule > axa-axa
[12:07] <axa-axa> !schedule
[12:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:07] <RMorris84> Seveas: what do i need to use? Disks in admin?
[12:08] <Seveas> RMorris84, or the mkfs command
[12:08] <RMorris84> Seveas: when i went into disks i see it there, and it says .83 mb free lol, but the option for format is greyed out...
[12:09] <yacoob> is there a way to quickly check the contents of _upcoming_ release?
[12:09] <bluk> hi there; i just copied a whole ubuntu partition from one HD to another (cp -a source_part dest_part). It works fine, except i can't see anymore the "graphical init" at bootup or shutdown; it's not critical, but i'd like to understand why
[12:09] <TGPO> YoG: your past my ability then, sorry
[12:09] <dcordes> Seveas: are you the guy with the repository?
[12:09] <LjL> yacoob: you mean check what packages are in Edgy?
[12:09] <graveson> i have a firefox extension that i cannot uninstall (unnstall button greyed out) - anyone has any ideason how i can do this
[12:09] <Yourname> Seveas?
[12:09] <YoG> TPGO: :-( thanx...
[12:09] <yacoob> LjL, yup.
[12:09] <LjL> yacoob: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <Yourname> How can I use apt-get to install a package from somewhere else?
[12:10] <Yourname> Because obviously, network mananger .6.2 is not helping me connect to WPA.
[12:10] <yacoob> LjL, thanks.
[12:10] <YoG> so i'm back to the begining.... can someone help me with usb wlan?
[12:10] <Yourname> My best best is .06.4
[12:10] <LjL> Yourname: you don't. you use dpkg for that. and perhaps you *shouldn't*, since packages that were not intended for ubuntu might break your system
[12:10] <yacoob> Another thing I want to ask; when I leave sources.list as they are after installation, no new version will arrive, only security updates, right?
[12:10] <Yourname> YoG: www.linuxant.org
[12:10] <leal> realplayer 10 without sound...
[12:10] <leal> any tips?
[12:10] <Yourname> LjL: Ok, so how else can I make this same 6.2 work with WPA2?
[12:10] <yacoob> What about universum and multiversum, are those "frozen" too for specific release, or are they a moving target?
[12:10] <Yourname> (My system has wpa_supplicant)
[12:11] <bluk> Yourname, theres a soft named "alien" which converts packages maybe you can get use of this
[12:11] <LjL> Yourname: "dpkg -i <filename>" installs a package that you have downloaded, anyway. it does *not* install the required dependencies, though. you may install them manually, or use the "gdebi" package, which can do that automatically
[12:11] <YoG> Yourname: it's not a problem with setting up one...
[12:11] <LjL> Yourname: as i told you, i have neither network-manager nor gnome nor wifi nor a clue. i'm just warning that third-party packages might break.
[12:11] <Yourname> LjL: I downloaded the latest nm, and converted it to .deb using alien, and it didn't install properly.
[12:12] <Em3rald> LjL:  Unfortunately, I don't have the special "adapter" required for that.  I think I am going to have to find an audio out port from another machine (I have plenty of old hardware laying around) and wire it to the internal audio outputs.
[12:12] <LjL> that doesn't surprise me in the least
[12:12] <YoG> can someone help me with usb wlan locking up after a while?
[12:12] <Will> does anyone know where i can get the drivers for CS4236 sound card?
[12:12] <bluk> YoG, is the lock temporary or not?
[12:12] <TGPO> YoG; have you tried ifup/ifdown?
[12:13] <LjL> Em3rald: couldn't you just buy one of those (cheap) "doubler" adapters?
[12:13] <YoG> bluk: until i remove and reinsert the dongle...
[12:13] <Liuiti> hi hi
[12:13] <YoG> TPGO: doesn't work
[12:13] <Yourname> If someone can tell me, how to connect to WPA using nm 6.2... that's enough, lol
[12:13] <leal> so, realplayer 10 does not work on ubuntu?
[12:13] <LjL> Em3rald: you know, the ones that let two people use two headphones on the same walkman, and such things
[12:14] <sproingie> a splitter
[12:14] <YoG> bluk, TPGO: the only thing that was remotely close to work is "rmmod uhci_hcd" followed by "insmod uhci_hcd"
[12:14] <LjL> rightie
[12:14] <test_> i am trying to save the grub menu.lst but i dont have write access. how do i save it as root?
[12:14] <Em3rald> Ya, I suppose I could ... just thought there was a quick fix.
[12:14] <YoG> TPGO: or removing and inserting the dongle
[12:14] <Liuiti> someone talk to me
[12:14] <LjL> Liuiti: hi.
[12:14] <Em3rald> I live in a small town and such an adapter may not be readily available.
[12:14] <tsoler> hi to all
[12:14] <tsoler> is anyone can help?
[12:14] <Liuiti> hi where you from?
[12:15] <YoG> tsoler, what's the problem?
[12:15] <Will> does anyone know where i can get the drivers for CS4236 sound card?
[12:15] <tsoler> tried to customize my desktop
[12:15] <leal> somebody can tell me if realplayer 10 works on ubuntu or not?
[12:15] <leal> hello!
[12:15] <bluk> YoG, not sure it will help; regularily, wlan devices scan available networks and in some cases (i've seen this problem happens on winxp but it might be more general) this can cause troubles (but i never heard about indefinite lock); you might try to disable autoscan, and see if it behaves differently
[12:15] <Yourname> LjL: Ok, I installed the .deb file using gdebi. Now, how do I access it? Because I don';t see the applet, and so when I type 'nm' it says nm: 'a.out": No such file.
[12:15] <tsoler> now when i minimize firefox is gone
[12:15] <K1765> Can anyone tell me why it says "erroring reading boot cd"
[12:15] <Em3rald> tsoler:  can you alt-tab to it?
[12:16] <TGPO> leal: not every question has a known answer, try it and let us know
[12:16] <Em3rald> leal:  Not sure off hand ....
[12:16] <LjL> Yourname, i don't know. i never used network manager.
[12:16] <Liuiti> How i can modified the logon on my top pannel?
[12:16] <tsoler> yap!!!
[12:16] <Em3rald> leal:  did you use Automatix to install real?
[12:16] <Yourname> sigh
[12:16] <YoG> tsoler, no idea
[12:16] <LjL> !automatix
[12:16] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[12:16] <YoG> bluk: who do i do that?
[12:16] <tsoler> alt tab works fine
[12:16] <leal> Em3rald: no, canonical repository.
[12:16] <Em3rald> tsoler:  is it possible that your resolution is gibbled so that your bottom bar is missing?
[12:16] <Liuiti> How i can modified the logon on my top pannel?
[12:17] <bluk> YoG, no idea you will have to figure it out by yourself
[12:17] <heanol_> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid gein mode master
[12:17] <Em3rald> leal:  realplayer can be a pain in Ubuntu because they don't really work very hard on making a working up-to-date version of it for the Linux world.  However, you might try searching for info on the ubuntuforums.org website forum.
[12:17] <tsoler> i didnt change resolution
[12:17] <heanol_> should that be enough to make my computer act as an access point?
[12:17] <tsoler> but .. i removed the down panel
[12:17] <bluk> but if the delay between two scans seems the same delay that makes wlan locked, they are chances it is related
[12:18] <snottlebocket> hey guys
[12:18] <dbmerk> ljl: one more question - i have a terminal up as the ubuntu user.. try to su to root and need a password, what is the default password for root?
[12:18] <Em3rald> tsoler:  I believe you can add it back by right-clicking on the top one and adding the panel.
[12:18] <leal> Em3rald: ok, thanks.
[12:18] <Em3rald> leal good luck :D
[12:18] <TGPO> dbmerk, your normal password
[12:18] <snottlebocket> first time on ubuntu using the live cd ^^
[12:18] <YoG> bluk: I didn't know about this option at all, but i do have the same problem on windoze.. so maybe thats the solution
[12:18] <dbmerk> my user password?
[12:18] <test_> how do i move a file?
[12:18] <TGPO> dbmerk, yes
[12:18] <dbmerk> thx
[12:18] <slop> test_, mv
[12:19] <bluk> YoG, wish you luck
[12:19] <test_> k
[12:19] <tsoler> its not working emerald
[12:19] <YoG> bluk, thanx :-)
[12:19] <Em3rald> tsoler:  mmm ... hang on dude :D
[12:19] <tsoler> ive i added a panel on the bottom
[12:19] <TGPO> icky, 20 more meg of dev files to d/l
[12:19] <profoX`> Seveas: is falcon no available for edgy somewhere?
[12:20] <Liuiti> How i can modified the logon on my top pannel?
[12:20] <profoX`> s/no/not
[12:20] <Gumby> lo all.  I am trying to figure out why samba isnt starting at boot time.  I have checked sysv-rc-conf and it shows it as starting in runlevels 2 through 5.  Am I missing something as to why it isnt starting at boot time?
[12:20] <tsoler> is there a reset button?
[12:20] <Em3rald> tsoler:  Okay, now you can "reconstruct" the bar I believe by "add to panel" and adding the appropriate things from the menu there.
[12:20] <LjL> !root > Em3rald
[12:20] <bluk> why did the "graphical form" of init went away from my system after having transferred it between two HDs ?
[12:20] <TGPO> Liuiti: you log in screen?
[12:20] <LjL> Em3rald: there is no password. use sudo.
[12:21] <tsoler> yes i can add items but how do i keep firefox ?
[12:21] <Tilde> lut
[12:21] <Ropechoborra> !edgy
[12:21] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:21] <LjL> Em3rald: whoops, i'm sorry. wrong nickname :-)
[12:21] <Ropechoborra> !schedule
[12:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:21] <Em3rald> LjL:  haha ... no problem :D
[12:21] <YoG> does anyone here knows how to disable wlan autoscan?
[12:21] <Liuiti> yes
[12:21] <LjL> dbmerk: use sudo, there is no root password
[12:22] <test_> how do i kill job 1
[12:22] <tsoler> ubotu
[12:22] <Em3rald> tsoler:  Okay ... not entirely sure actually.  let me fuddle a bout for a second.
[12:22] <tsoler> ??
[12:22] <test_> jobs still shows job 1 after kill 1
[12:22] <TGPO> Liuiti: go to the screen and on the bottom left there is an options button, you can change lots of things for it there
[12:22] <bluk> or, more simple, how is the GUI version of init called/invoked ?
[12:22] <Em3rald> tsoler:  I am just messing with my own desktop to see if I can figure out whats up.
[12:22] <LjL> test_: "kill 1" will kill *process* number 1 (i.e. init), and not *job* number 1
[12:23] <tsoler> thanks emerald
[12:23] <Em3rald> NP dude :D
[12:23] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to unzip 7zip?
[12:23] <LjL> test_: i *think* it's "kill %1"
[12:23] <tiredbones> how do I get the whole cd to play instead of just one track? I don't see anything in sound juicer that lets me do that.
[12:23] <K1765> Anyone know what it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin
[12:23] <SonicChao> !7zip
[12:23] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:23] <Em3rald> tsoler:  Okay, I think the one you want is right-click on the appropriate bar (your new one) and add-to-panel, then ....
[12:24] <snottlebocket> due to the lack of windows fonts on ubuntu a lot of websites are looking really crummy, can i just install fonts to fix that?
[12:24] <test_> thanks LjL
[12:24] <Liuiti> but i want to modified the logon ubuntu to logon apple
[12:24] <Em3rald> tsoler:  ... then go down to Window List and add that to the panel.
[12:24] <K1765> Anyone know what it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin
[12:24] <Em3rald> tsoler:  This is assuming I understand your predicament lol.
[12:24] <YoG> does anyone here knows how to disable wlan autoscan?
[12:25] <tsoler> emerald where is that window list?
[12:25] <K1765> Anyone know what it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin
[12:25] <mcphail> snottlebocket: there is a ms fonts package
[12:25] <shadowhywind> ark doesn't let me uncompress it any ideas?
[12:25] <tsoler> you mean window selector??
[12:25] <Em3rald> Should be right to the left of that.
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to fix this?:  HP Pavilion dv4150us laptop; gets really hot and then the fan finally kicks in (hard), cools it off, and stops, rather than running more frequently or continuously at a lower speed.
[12:25] <Liuiti> but i don't understand how i do this
[12:25] <YoG> bluk: coming to think about it, the connection holds as long as there is now/little traffic on it, so if you say it should appear periodically, maybe thats not the problem?
[12:25] <snottlebocket> does ubuntu have a maximum screen resolution of only 1024?
[12:26] <K1765> Anyone know why it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin, what could this mean?
[12:26] <bluk> YoG, good point :-(
[12:26] <TGPO> K1765, did you perchance d/l the 64bit version and are trying to boot onto a 32bit comp? tried that once with horrific results
[12:26] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  no, but you may have to manually edit your xorg.conf file for that.  Its an annoyance, but I believe it may be fixed in the next release .... maybe.
[12:26] <LjL> shadowhywind: sudo apt-get install p7zip
[12:26] <conreyt> snottlebocket: nope
[12:26] <YoG> bluk: dang
[12:26] <K1765> Nope, I have the intel x86 version
[12:26] <YoG> bluk: I'm getting frustrated...
[12:26] <snottlebocket> fair enough, right now i'm just looking around using the live cd to see if ubuntu is for me
[12:26] <shadowhywind> thanks, i found the directions, hehe
[12:26] <clearzen> Could anyone tell me how to setup automatic backups of my laptop system/config files to my server?
[12:27] <dcordes> clearzen: what kind of server do you have?
[12:27] <Liuiti> somebody help me?
[12:27] <Em3rald> snottlebucket:  cool.  When you finally install it, do some searching on the ubuntuforums.org forum for specific instructions on how to do stuff like editing your xorg.conf file.  Super easy
[12:27] <bluk> YoG, if you have the exact same problem in windows, maybe it's not software-related.. meaning it could be hardware problem. Do you have another wlan device?
[12:27] <clearzen> ubuntu server
[12:27] <K1765> Anyone know why it says "error loading boot cd", the iso wasnt corrupt...ive done memtest, and everythin, what could this mean?
[12:27] <ianmacgregor> !backup > clearzen
[12:27] <TGPO> K1765: well there is always the option of downloading and burning the iso again, if it doesnt like that CD there isnt anything that you can do to change it
[12:27] <snottlebocket> i will, thanks em
[12:27] <Em3rald> No problem my friend :D
[12:28] <K1765> I've tried 4 different cd's TGPO
[12:28] <snottlebocket> right now i'm just running into a lot of stuff that seems to be windows/mac only like my graphics programs and my wacom drivers
[12:28] <YoG> bluk: yes, and its doing the same (on windoze, didnt try it on linux)
[12:28] <Em3rald> tsoler:  how ya doing?
[12:28] <K1765> same thing happens
[12:28] <snottlebocket> i heard about Wine but it seems a bit pointless to run ubuntu only to emulate windows most of the time
[12:28] <TGPO> K1765: from the same download?
[12:28] <tsoler> trying
[12:28] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  there are usually workarounds for just about anything.
[12:28] <K1765> Different dl's
[12:28] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Did you use Firefox for all those downloads?
[12:29] <Em3rald> tsoler:  you don't have the "window list" in your Add-To-Panel options?
[12:29] <sethk> K1765, could be that either the reader drive, or the burner drive is slightly out of alignment
[12:29] <mcphail> snottlebocket: within a couple of months of using ubuntu, there will be several programs you would miss if you went back to windows :)
[12:29] <K1765> Yes, but I checked them with md5sum and they were fine
[12:29] <marijn> !w32codecs
[12:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:29] <tsoler> one moment please
[12:29] <YoG> bluk: it seems that removing the dongle and reinserting it brings the connection back to life... do you think of a way of making ubuntu think i did that?
[12:29] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  Yeah, but thre are equivalent programs for almost everything, just takes some time to find your favorites.
[12:29] <sethk> K1765, that problem isn't caused by a bad image file
[12:29] <TGPO> K1765: go look at your bios, check the drive settings (not boot options) see id there is some tweaking you can do in there
[12:30] <tsoler> i ve added all window options,
[12:30] <johnny__> i download ndsiwrapper to my desktop and i am having a problem with extracting it from terminal with this cmd "tar -zxvf ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz" is ndsiwrapper suppose to be in a certain directory for the terminal to read it?
[12:30] <snottlebocket> oh i'm sure there's equivelants for a lot of the basic stuff but i'm doing flash development along with a bunch of windows and mac users, i doubt i could entirely get rid of using macromedia flash'  writing program
[12:30] <LjL> snottlebocket: i doubt that too
[12:30] <tsoler> window list , window selection and workspace switcer
[12:30] <snottlebocket> for example i have no problem with open office instead of word
[12:30] <bluk> YoG, you told it before: rmmod / insmod
[12:30] <Em3rald> Unfortunately Macromedia hasn't been so good for Linux.
[12:30] <sethk> snottlebocket, in your case, that's correct, it isn't really practical
[12:31] <mcphail> snottlebocket: might be worth dual booting
[12:31] <sethk> unfortunate
[12:31] <YoG> bluk: that doesn't work always...
[12:31] <Em3rald> tsoler:  Alrighty, so ... what are you missing now ... perhaps I am not fully understanding your problem.
[12:31] <Liuiti> someone help me please?
[12:31] <TGPO> johnny__ you have to be in the same folder. use pwd to find out where you are and then cd to chnge directories
[12:31] <LjL> dual boot, or perhaps use a VM, if Wine fails..
[12:31] <tsoler> its working emerald
[12:31] <AsheD> if I am using rsync to copy a folder on my PC to a online host, and I change a small part of the file on my PC, will rsync re-upload the entire file, or just change the edited part?
[12:31] <bluk> maybe set a 5 seconds pause between the two: sleep 5
[12:31] <sethk> Liuiti, only if you ask a question
[12:31] <Em3rald> Liuiti:  whassup?
[12:31] <johnny__> k
[12:31] <Em3rald> tsoler:  YAY!
[12:31] <mcphail> AsheD: just the edited part
[12:31] <tsoler> its not the same as before
[12:31] <AsheD> mcphail:: excellent, thanks
[12:32] <Em3rald> tsoler:  what's different?
[12:32] <snottlebocket> yeah, i'm just wondering about the practicality of using wine or dual booting, basically i'd end up wanting to use ubuntu but spending most of my working time back in windows or emulating windows
[12:32] <tsoler> but i think i can walk along
[12:32] <Liuiti> How i can modified the logon on my top pannel?
[12:32] <Em3rald> tsoler:  excellent, don't be afraid to keep asking ... though I may not be here much longer.
[12:32] <mcphail> AsheD: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/tech_report/ is interesting reading
[12:32] <tsoler> the difference is that when i minimize a window its not sitting in the panel
[12:32] <LjL> snottlebocket: well, that's up to you -- if *most* of what you use your computer for requires windows, then there is not much point switching.
[12:32] <sethk> Liuiti, not sure what you mean.
[12:32] <snottlebocket> random question but who is unbuntu for really because clearly someone in say the graphics industry would spend too much time switching or emulating to make it an efficient choice
[12:33] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  Well, I would get into using vmware and instaling windows thru it.
[12:33] <bluk> but, YoG, even if this works, it's just a workaround; would be better to find what's the real quirk
[12:33] <Em3rald> tsoler:  wierd.
[12:33] <bod_> snottlebocket: what do you use windows for?
[12:33] <sethk> snottlebocket, I mostly work on embedded systems, and the last few projects I've done have all been linux
[12:33] <TGPO> sethk: he want to change the login screen from gdm appearance to mac appearance
[12:33] <Liuiti> i want to modified the logon ubuntu to logon apple on thw top pannel
[12:33] <LjL> snottlebocket, it is for many people. it tries to be for as many as possible. for Flash developers, however, it's probably not optimal.
[12:33] <tsoler> i mean that if i remove window list i would not be able to find my windows
[12:33] <snottlebocket> i suppose i use windows because it's the most widely used OS here and it let's me use all the common programs in my line of work
[12:33] <johnny__> johnny@linux-box:~$ cd /desktop
[12:33] <johnny__> bash: cd: /desktop: No such file or directory
[12:34] <sethk> Liuiti, it can be done but I'm not familiar enough with the details to tell you how to do it.
[12:34] <ianmacgregor> snottlebocket: I have been using Linux for about 7 years. Currently I use Ubuntu for all the work I do: Grapgics design, web surfing, email, chatting, software design, website design, etc. I haven't touched Windows in about 9 years and I won't go back.
[12:34] <YoG> bluk: i'll be happy if i didn't have to go to that computer and removing and inserting the dongle every 10 minutes (though my girl friend is happy that i'm doing some excercize ;-)
[12:34] <bod_> snottlebocket: such as
[12:34] <XVampireX> johnny__,  just Desktop
[12:34] <clearzen> !backup
[12:34] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[12:34] <AsheD> mcphail:: I think you and I may have different definitions of the word "interesting" :P
[12:34] <LjL> johnny__: case matters in Linux. it's Desktop
[12:34] <johnny__> k
[12:34] <mcphail> AsheD: :)
[12:34] <Em3rald> tsoler:  Yeah.  But the original bar is just a bar with that embedded in it anyway.  You can move components of a bar around too if that helps.
[12:34] <XVampireX> johnny__, cd Desktop
[12:34] <TGPO> johnny__: cd /home/johnny/Desktop
[12:34] <binfalse1> johnny__: cd Desktop    (with a capital D and without the /)
[12:34] <XVampireX> johnny__, It's case sensitive
[12:34] <tsoler> anyway emerald we didnt restore it , but i thing its much better this way
[12:34] <mcphail> AsheD: i should get out more...
[12:34] <jbmigel> snottlebocket can you take your troll to ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:34] <johnny__> ohh
[12:34] <johnny__> ok
[12:34] <Em3rald> tsoler:  haha, yay!
[12:35] <AsheD> mcphail:: me too
[12:35] <tsoler> xaxa
[12:35] <tsoler> ok
[12:35] <sethk> snottlebocket, but we still need windows, for the PCB layout, CAD programs, lot's of things unfortunately.
[12:35] <Em3rald> tsoler:  have you gotten into using multiple desktops yet?  ctrl-alt-(left or right arrow)
[12:35] <snottlebocket> Ian don't you run into trouble making products that are meant to reach the masses while working on a system that is far less widespread, i'm just trying it out for half an hour but allready i ran into java problems, sites rendering badly due to lack of fonts and an outdated flash plugin
[12:35] <tsoler> hey guys you are really helpfull here
[12:35] <Em3rald> tsoler:  we're all just users like you ... perhaps you will be helping someone someday too :D
[12:36] <ianmacgregor> snottlebocket: To be honest, I don't care if Windows users can't see the stuff I design. As long as Linux users can use my stuff, then I am happy.
[12:36] <XVampireX> snottlebocket, You're talking about silly problems that don't really exist, don't forget, linux is not windows. So you do things differently on linux.
[12:36] <TGPO> snottlebocket: your running from a liveCD, means the OS is running from a slow as heck CD drive, you were expecting warp speed?
[12:36] <dcordes> where can i set which volume is controled by the hotkeys of my keyboard?
[12:36] <johnny__> ok i have the ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz on my desktop
[12:36] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  that's partly because a lot of fonts and other stuff are very proprietary, and Ubuntu is all about "legally free" until you add extra repositories and stuff.
[12:36] <johnny__> johnny@linux-box:~/Desktop$ tar -zxvf ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz
[12:36] <johnny__> tar: ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:36] <johnny__> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:36] <tsoler> thank you
[12:36] <snottlebocket> actually i never complained about the speed TGPO
[12:36] <johnny__> tar: Child returned status 2
[12:36] <LjL> snottlebocket, yes we do. it's unfortunate, but when products are proprietary, the best we can do is try and create free alternatives -- which is not always fast or easy. anyway, this discussion is getting way too offtopic for here, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:36] <johnny__> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:36] <XVampireX> snottlebocket, Don't forget about Flash 9 beta
[12:36] <Em3rald> tsoler:  You are very welcome :D
[12:36] <mcphail> snottlebocket: flash9 is now available. Whilst you are correct that the windows fonts are better than those shipped with ubuntu, the MS fonts are easily installed
[12:37] <TGPO> snottlebocket: you just did, with the lagging problems from some sites
[12:37] <snottlebocket> allright, i'll stop polluting the channel, i think i heard what i needed anyway
[12:37] <jbmigel> dont feed the trolls guys... like you can convince him in irc
[12:37] <tsoler> do you think multiple deskttops are usefull?? very first time to use such thing
[12:37] <Em3rald> tsoler:  YES!
[12:37] <TGPO> tsoler, after you get used to it, you'll wonder how you ever lived without
[12:37] <mcphail> tsoler: emphatically yes
[12:37] <Em3rald> tsoler:  it takes time to really get efficient with them though.
[12:37] <johnny__> how come i am getting an error?
[12:37] <snottlebocket> i didn't need convincing, i needed some information, i think i'll put ubuntu on my laptop and keep the pc for my work that requires windows a bit more, i wasn't being critical in a bad way
[12:38] <sethk> tsoler, most people I work with put a multiple desktop feature onto their windows box
[12:38] <XVampireX> tsoler, I don't use them
[12:38] <Em3rald> tsoler:  it's funny ... any time I am helping a windows friend, I am always trying to switch desktops and use the top bar which doesn't exist in Windows LOL
[12:38] <LjL> johnny__, i doubt that your files is actually called "ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz"
[12:38] <tsoler> dont what to do with them!! seems im not that multi tasking
[12:38] <johnny__> ohh ok
[12:38] <sethk> Em3rald, it does exist, but you have to install it separately
[12:38] <johnny__> kk
[12:38] <balay3> hello
[12:38] <mcphail> snottlebocket: it is reasonable to have doubts :) - Ubuntu is not ideal for everyone, but it doesn't hurt to try it!
[12:38] <gnomefreak> johnny__: is it tar.bz2?
[12:38] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  meh ... some of us get a little touchy about the whole "ubuntu is ugly" problem LOL ....
[12:38] <jpjacobs> snottlebocket, if you're interested, flash9beta for linux is out, there is even a ubuntu-package for it (just don't remember the repo)
[12:38] <johnny__> .gz
[12:38] <sethk> tsoler, depends on what you are doing.  I have one for programming, one for documentation, one for email/web, and one for photography
[12:39] <LjL> !flash9
[12:39] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[12:39] <Em3rald> sethk:  I know, I had it with my nVidia video card, but it's performance was retarded.
[12:39] <jpjacobs> there you go
[12:39] <johnny__> i understand now
[12:39] <tsoler> do u use all that now??
[12:39] <Em3rald> tsoler:  yes
[12:39] <snottlebocket> nope, like i said it seems perfectly acceptable for regular use and work and i'm defenitly a big fan of all the open source / non propriatry stuff, it just doesn't suit my needs for my graphical work
[12:39] <gnomefreak> johnny__: i would look for a different tar. i just made a tar and it was messed up cause i made it with cvvf and tar -xvzf couldnt untar it i changed the way i compressed it and poof it worked
[12:39] <snottlebocket> so i'll stick ubuntu on the laptop and keep windows on the pc, it'll let me make a nice comparison over time
[12:39] <binfalse1> johnny__: by the way, you can use the TAB key to complete files names and directory names in the shell
[12:40] <LjL> snottlebocket: sounds like a good idea
[12:40] <Em3rald> snottlebocket:  I bet its less than 6 months before you have Ubuntu on your production machine haha ;)
[12:40] <bod_> Just do like I did and buy 5 computers with a multitude of OS' to play with at once :)
[12:40] <jbmigel> snottlebocket if your not happy with the available open source softwares you are welciome to buy adobe and give away their source
[12:40] <TGPO> snottlebocket: thats the spirit, and if you beat on it enough you'll end up finding ways to do what you want with linux instead, 6 months tops
[12:40] <sethk> snottlebocket, install cygwin on your windows box, makes windows less painful.
[12:40] <tsoler> to be honest im trying to set up a gis on ubuntu, thats my intention
[12:40] <bod_> adobe runs fine in wine... whats all the fuss
[12:41] <gnomefreak> sethk: no such thing as less painless in windows :)
[12:41] <tsoler> but dont know how to hung around yet xaxa
[12:41] <tsoler> its all about maps
[12:41] <gnomefreak> tsoler: what is gis?
[12:41] <binfalse1> gnomefreak: there is a windows port of less, btw  .:)
[12:41] <tsoler> mapping etc
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:41] <LjL> gnomefreak: geographical information system
[12:41] <Em3rald> tsoler:  as in google-earth style stuff?
[12:41] <tsoler> yes
[12:41] <binfalse1> gnomefreak: and pain doesn't need to be ported ;)
[12:42] <Em3rald> brb
[12:42] <capgadget> gis tells you everything you want to know except where you left your keys.
[12:42] <johnny__> how do i go back to defaul directory in terminal
[12:42] <tsoler> google is on the top, im just a normal user
[12:42] <johnny__> i tried cd johnny
[12:42] <LjL> johnny__: cd ~
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to fix this?:  HP Pavilion dv4150us laptop; gets really hot and then the fan finally kicks in (hard), cools it off, and stops, rather than running more frequently or continuously at a lower speed.
[12:42] <snottlebocket> the multiple workspace thingy lower right is sweet
[12:42] <TGPO> XVampireX cant reply to PMs sorry
[12:42] <pak-x> hi
[12:42] <binfalse1> johnny__: cd   (without parameters)
[12:42] <johnny__> kk
[12:42] <elfranger> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:42] <tsoler> but on windows very slow processing
[12:42] <LjL> johnny__: or for that matter, cd /home/johnny (that's the correct path)
[12:42] <Rozabela> hi, anyone want to offer help to a first time ubuntu user?
[12:42] <XVampireX> TGPO, I'm someone who tries to help get K1765 to Ubuntu, I couldn't help him with booting problems so told him to come here but it seems like not many could help though you mentioned that he should look into the bios
[12:42] <LjL> !ask
[12:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:42] <tsoler> i ve made some post on google
[12:43] <Liuiti> someone know about aiglx?
[12:43] <tsoler> google earth i mean
[12:43] <LjL> !aiglx > Liuiti
[12:43] <gnomefreak> elfranger: please dont do that there is no need to post so many of same letter or number
[12:43] <Hitch> sure Rozabela
[12:43] <johnny__> tyty
[12:43] <binfalse1> johnny__: you want to learn the difference between absolute and relative paths
[12:43] <elfranger> gnomefreak: sorry, it was just an outburst
[12:43] <bod_> The problems with windows guys is that there in a comfort zone that says, I dont quite know how to get linux to do what i want right now and iam not ready to learn how. I realy want to cross over but I just cant be arsed...
[12:43] <Em3rald> Tony:  Not sure my friend ... is this exclusive to Linux for you?
[12:43] <XVampireX> TGPO: "didnt see driver settings anywhere"
[12:43] <johnny__> ok
[12:43] <sethk> XVampireX, no, it's not a bios issue
[12:43] <tsoler> if i can mount my disks i will sent you some data gnomefreak
[12:44] <XVampireX> sethk, so what is it?
[12:44] <Will> how do i get a custom theme in gnome ubuntu 6.6?
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> Em3rald: It's a friend's machine actually, but yes.  She dual-boots with Win XP, and it's fine there.
[12:44] <Rozabela> hitch: my linux partion isn't detecting my network card
[12:44] <elfranger> can I add a HDD to a running ubuntu server?
[12:44] <Will> ive gone to gnome-look
[12:44] <johnny__> binfalse1: Yea
[12:44] <Will> but dont know what ot download
[12:44] <Rozabela> i don't know why
[12:44] <Will> *to
[12:44] <sethk> XVampireX, could be a slight misalignment between the burner and the cd reader.  I have seen a couple of cases of this type of behavior that were fixed by using the proper jumper settings for the drive.
[12:44] <LjL> !changethemes > will
[12:44] <TGPO> XVampireX yes, sometimes you can make bios tweaks to the drive settings that will allow it to work under other circumstances, LBA, and such
[12:44] <pak-x> i wanted to install gnome 2.16.1, but as i typed ./configure he says, that a parser perl module is required for intltool, so a googled and found a download XML-Parser 2.34, but after a run the Makefile, I typed make, but he dont know make? why
[12:44] <Will> i know
[12:44] <Em3rald> tony:  I remember reading a similar problem in ubuntuforums.org ....... if no one knows here, you could try there.
[12:44] <sethk> XVampireX, specifically, if the drive is connected with an EIDE cable, make sure it's jumpered for cable select
[12:44] <Will> but what do i download to get the theme
[12:45] <Hitch> what is your network card?
[12:45] <Em3rald> tsoler:  which drives are you trying to mount?
[12:45] <Will> what format
[12:45] <bluk> sorry to ask this again, but i saw no answer yet; how come the nice graphical version of INIT has gone off? (after moving the system from one hd to another)
[12:45] <Will> GTK
[12:45] <Will> or somthing
[12:45] <TGPO> XVampireX its not about changing a driver, but tweaking the bios
[12:45] <LjL> !enter
[12:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:45] <sethk> XVampireX, it's not impossible that switching DMA off (in the BIOS setting for the drive) would help, but the odds aren't great.
[12:45] <tsoler> my ntfs drives
[12:45] <XVampireX> Thanks
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> Em3rald: Already have, and came up with answers for other brands, but not HPs.
[12:45] <elfranger> http://www.mimoco.com/swlanding.htm
[12:45] <XVampireX> Gotta catch him online now, don't know where he went :P
[12:45] <Em3rald> tsoler:  easy stuff:  there's a cool howto about using ntfs-3g on the forum ... I will see if I can find a link.
[12:45] <TGPO> to look at his bios
[12:45] <tsoler> any suggestions emerald
[12:46] <sethk> XVampireX, tell him to try burning the CD at the lowest available speed setting, say 4x.
[12:46] <bod_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[12:46] <pak-x> what does  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool means and what can i do?
[12:46] <binfalse1> johnny__: absolute paths always begin with a "/" and start from the root directory (example: /etc/X11). relative paths are relative to the current directory (examples: Desktop, ../bin, .)
[12:46] <Exclamation> hi, i want to chance my powernowd setting from on demand to conservative.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[12:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:46] <Kr0ntab> so how bout flash 9, eh?  About time they released something.
[12:46] <Will> what about for gnome?
[12:46] <talisein> Kr0ntab: ? You mean you want a package for it?
[12:46] <XVampireX> sethk, that's what he did :P
[12:46] <Kr0ntab> no... already got it..
[12:47] <XVampireX> sethk, I mean he burned it at 4x
[12:47] <tsoler> emerald: listen whats the strange , i can see ntfs drive on network but not on my computer
[12:47] <Em3rald> tsoler:  try this one, this is the one I use, and it was really easy and it works flawlessly:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[12:47] <Kr0ntab> seveas repo has it...
[12:47] <elfranger> I tried adding a user specifying the homedir and group...
[12:47] <Kr0ntab> adobe released it i think on 10/18
[12:47] <lenath> Hi, I've switched to Ubuntu a couple of days ago, been playing around and just about to dump Windows... I am trying to install Juploadr but miserably fails... It is a tar.gz file and don't know the procedure to install these kind of files. Been looking around and nothing has worked so far... Could anyone help me or point me to the right method?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> I still have a hard time just FINDING the flash 9 links.
[12:47] <tsoler> thanks again will check immediatelly
[12:47] <elfranger> but it warns me that the homedir already exists
[12:47] <johnny__> hm
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !flash9
[12:47] <Hitch> did somebody know if it is true that oracle will make a linux distribution for her?
[12:47] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> nothard
[12:47] <Kr0ntab> makin the web soooo much more usable
[12:47] <johnny__> ic
[12:47] <gnomefreak> not hard even
[12:47] <johnny__> nice
[12:47] <Em3rald> tsoler:  peculiar ... but I am not sure what the deal is there.
[12:47] <kitche> Kr0ntab: umm it's only beta :)
[12:47] <LjL> !enter
[12:47] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:47] <LjL> !offtopic
[12:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:47] <tsoler> but do you have any ideas why is that
[12:47] <tsoler> oops
[12:47] <johnny__> i understand that :)
[12:48] <Kr0ntab> yeah... but much better than 7
[12:48] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[12:48] <XVampireX> lenath, what are the contents of the tar.gz files
[12:48] <elfranger> I want to create users for my ftp that all has the same home folder /home/ftp
[12:48] <Em3rald> tsoler:  absolutely no clue LOL.
[12:48] <bod_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:48] <sethk> lenath, it's probably a source code archive, so you have to build it.
[12:48] <pak-x> can someone help me please?  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[12:48] <Dr_willis> Kr0ntab,  every link/download i find mentione don the flash 9 pages - get flash 7
[12:48] <Em3rald> brb ... gotta help my daughter with something.
[12:48] <mcquaid> hello, i have dapper on my main drive and edgy on a second drive, when I installed edgy i let it rewrite the mbr so it's now reading edgy's menu.1st
[12:48] <binfalse1> i wonder why people still stick to a braindead protocol like ftp
[12:48] <XVampireX> hehe
[12:48] <tsoler> do u see ntfs emerald?
[12:48] <mcquaid> i am now removing the drive with edgy, so I need to rewrite grub, how do I do this?
[12:48] <sethk> binfalse1, they know how to use it, is the main reason.
[12:49] <LjL> !grub > mcquaid
[12:49] <bluk> sorry but was my question stupid or bad formulated or both ? :)
[12:49] <sethk> mcquaid, you can do it with the grub utility.
[12:49] <Em3rald> tsoler:  can you see it with Ubuntu's disk manager?  system>admin>disks?
[12:49] <binfalse1> sethk: then they deserve their passwords to be stolen
[12:49] <johnny__> ok by extracting the ndiswrapper it is suppose to create a directory... so i typed in cd ndiswrapper-1.27
[12:49] <tsoler> no
[12:49] <LjL> bluk: what is the "graphical version of INIT"?
[12:49] <sethk> binfalse1, no disagreement here.  I don't allow it on any system I'm responsible for.
[12:50] <tsoler> only sees that one im working in right now
[12:50] <Em3rald> tsoler:  wierd ............
[12:50] <johnny__> johnny@linux-box:~$ cd ndiswrapper-1.27
[12:50] <johnny__> bash: cd: ndiswrapper-1.27: No such file or directory
[12:50] <tsoler> and its not ntfs
[12:50] <tsoler> its etc3?? or something like that
[12:50] <mcquaid> sethk, LjL I know there are guides to fixing the mbr if one installed windows or whatever, but I haven't screwed it up yet, so instead of doing a live cd thing I'd rather rewrite the mbr while I'm booted in dapper now
[12:50] <LjL> johnny__: type "ls". you should see a list of the directories that you really do have.
[12:50] <mcquaid> sethk, so what do I run just grub?
[12:50] <Em3rald> tsoler:  yeah, ext3 is the usual for Linux.
[12:51] <LjL> mcquaid: i think the page covers that. anyway, i think you want the grub-install command.
[12:51] <johnny__> ok
[12:51] <Em3rald> tsoler:  what if you type this in your command prompt:
[12:51] <sethk> mcquaid, you run grub, then you use the  root   and   setup    commands
[12:51] <bluk> LjL: usually in most distros, init is in text mode. but in Ubuntu, theres a nice graphical version of it, at start, with a progress bar and all that
[12:51] <johnny__> its there
[12:51] <lenath> sethk: can you point me to the right method for building it? Are we talkin compilation here?
[12:51] <johnny__> :)
[12:51] <sethk> mcquaid, if you config file is set correctly, that's all there is to it.
[12:51] <sethk> lenath, yes
[12:51] <{_-IcE-_}> can any1 give me a hand on dovecot pls? im trying to set some pop accounts, if i select Standard Unix user database for users and unix shadow file for passwords through webmin, what do i have to put for userdb and passdb in the config?
[12:51] <Em3rald> sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[12:51] <LjL> bluk: init is still init. there is simply a program called "usplash" that provides a splash screen
[12:51] <fangbite> I have a problem. I installed ubuntu w/ the alternate CD, it asked for a password for a user, but not a username. How can I fix this?
[12:51] <sethk> lenath, typically a tar.gz file contains source that needs to be compiled.
[12:51] <mcquaid> sethk, uh what root and setup cmds?
[12:52] <bluk> and it disappeared since i transferred the system on another HD, i can't figure out why
[12:52] <Hitch> mcquaid, where did u get the edgy from?
[12:52] <johnny__> johnny@linux-box:~$ ls
[12:52] <johnny__> broken 3  Desktop           mkdev.sh      ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz
[12:52] <LjL> bluk: the system itself works alright?
[12:52] <johnny__> Command:  diggnation64      mkdev.sh~     TheBroken Ep4
[12:52] <johnny__> Default   Linux Wallpapers  My Documents
[12:52] <LjL> !paste
[12:52] <ink251> Hey, in 6.06 is there any tool similar to the windows
[12:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:52] <lenath> sethk: all right, ill investigate this and let u know how it goes...
[12:52] <johnny__> johnny@linux-box:~$ cd ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz
[12:52] <johnny__> bash: cd: ndiswrapper-1.27.tar.gz: Not a directory
[12:52] <dcordes> !ntfs
[12:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:52] <binfalse1> johnny__: btw, why do you want to build ndiswrapper from source? there is a ready-build ubuntu package for that
[12:52] <ink251> "search for files containing"
[12:52] <tsoler> sorry one moment
[12:52] <sethk> lenath, ok
[12:52] <mcquaid> Hitch, I grabbed the alt cd and installed it from that
[12:52] <bluk> indeed it works fine; it's no critical problem... but i'm curious :)
[12:52] <dcordes> !fuse
[12:52] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:52] <johnny__> is there
[12:52] <XVampireX> johnny__, .tar.gz files are not directories, they are archives
[12:52] <tsoler> few its getting too many messages here
[12:52] <johnny__> well i was talking about ndiswrrapper
[12:52] <johnny__> and someone said to read the wiki
[12:53] <Em3rald> tsoler:  np
[12:53] <johnny__> and thats what i am doing
[12:53] <johnny__> :/
[12:53] <bod_> find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 
[12:53] <watson540> johnny__:: thats not a gfolder you goof
[12:53] <XVampireX> johnny__, read it carefully then
[12:53] <mcquaid> sethk, ok I think I have it figured out, now my next thing is I want to put this drive with edgy in a new computer, it never had the mbr written to it
[12:53] <fangbite> Anyone?
[12:53] <LjL> bluk: i don't know, perhaps give this a try: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install usplash"
[12:53] <sethk> mcquaid, you fix it the same way, although you'
[12:53] <ink251> how would i find "hello" in all files in a certain directory
[12:53] <Yourname> *sigh*
[12:53] <Em3rald> tsoler:  and like I said, using the link I have you (the ntfs-3g one) is my personal favorite.  It really works, and doesn't seem to screw anything up at all.
[12:53] <johnny__> so just do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[12:53] <sethk> mcquaid, although you'll have to boot a live cd to get the system up so you can write the mbr.
[12:53] <bod_> ink251: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 
[12:53] <bluk> thanks, i'll try at once!
[12:53] <tsoler> where is command prompt?? lol
[12:53] <mcquaid> so I want to write the mbr to this drive when it's in the new computer but obviously fstab and menu.1st will be incorrect
[12:53] <Yourname> Everyone knows WPA is way better than WEP.
[12:53] <binfalse1> johnny__: i doubt that the wiki recommends building ndiswrapper from source
[12:53] <bod_> try man find
[12:53] <Em3rald> tsoler:  apps>acces>terminal
[12:54] <mighty_falcon> can someone help me to get the fstab to automount my usb peripherals? it doesnt automount my ipod nor my usb flashdrive anymore
[12:54] <Liuiti> how i done the pannel as mac osx ?
[12:54] <tsoler> u are the best
[12:54] <mcquaid> sethk, ya I thought that, but is there an automated way to recreate the fstab and menu.1st or do I have to manually fix em
[12:54] <Em3rald> tsoler:  LOL np ... if you want to cut down on traffic, we can go to PM if you want ...
[12:54] <sethk> mcquaid, yes, if it is now hda (or sda, or whatever) and it used to have a different device, then you'll have to modify fstab and menu.lst
[12:54] <Yourname> Everyone knows WPA is way better than WEP. And that a secure linux community would always want WPA, than WEP. If ubuntu is being a very good OS, and wants noobs like me to try it.. the basics like WPA connectivity should be covered. It's sooooo hard to find help or documentation to get this other than pointers like "use wpa_supplicant".
[12:54] <binfalse1> johnny__: maybe the info in the wiki is outdated. ndiswrapper is at least in dapper (i think it was even in breezy)
[12:55] <tsoler> that would be perfect
[12:55] <Seeker2599> anyone know of a avi splitter for ubuntu?
[12:55] <johnny__> k
[12:55] <sethk> mcquaid, I don't know of an automated way, but it's just a search and replace with a text editor.
[12:55] <tsoler> can u pm me?
[12:55] <johnny__> i will just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[12:55] <LjL> Yourname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:55] <watson540> Yourname:: we only want noobs of they're willing  to google :)
[12:55] <Em3rald> tsoler done:D
[12:55] <green__saotome> tried to update to edgy, with "update-manager -c -d", but i got an error about calculating downloads. Is there a work around?
[12:55] <mcquaid> sethk, will the uuid's be the same? as I noticed edgy uses uuids for the drive in fstab
[12:55] <graveson> seeker2599: avidemux - quite good actually
[12:55] <mcquaid> not sure how uuid's are determined
[12:55] <tsoler> where are u?
[12:55] <Liuiti> how i done the pannel as mac osx ?
[12:55] <mighty_falcon> anyone know how to automount USB drive using fstab?
[12:55] <Seeker2599> ok i got that one but i cant find where it saved
[12:56] <sethk> mcquaid, I'm not sure about that.
[12:56] <Em3rald> heh you probably have another window or something.
[12:56] <b03nto> Liuiti, u can try this link http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[12:56] <sladen> mighty_falcon: Universally unique ids are long random numbers;  two generated are unlikely to be the same
[12:56] <mcquaid> there should be an automated script when migrating a drive to a new computer, windows 98 pukes going to new hardware but xp actually handles it quite well
[12:56] <tsoler> ha?
[12:56] <sethk> mighty_falcon, you don't automount using fstab, exactly, for any type of drive.  You add a USB drive to fstab in exactly the same manner you add any other type of drive to fstab
[12:56] <mcquaid> i know a saw a guide on this awhile back but can't find it now
[12:56] <Yourname> watson540: Thank you. If the main ubuntu dude saw you saying that, I'm sure he'd whip you. :)
[12:56] <Em3rald> tsoler:  what application are you using to IRC?
[12:56] <tsoler> only two windows
[12:56] <sethk> mighty_falcon, maybe I didn't really understand your question?
[12:56] <Yourname> LjL: Thanks
[12:57] <tsoler> the defalt one
[12:57] <graveson> seeker2599: did you download the tarball- because there is a deb package maintained ,though i do not have the website right now
[12:57] <Em3rald> Ummmm .... LOL, been a long time, which is that?
[12:57] <mcquaid> but heh, by now I could have just reinstalled, while I've been searching for a way to move this drive to a new puter gracefully
[12:57] <Seeker2599> graveson: where does avidemux save to?
[12:57] <mighty_falcon> sethk: the problem is that last night i decided to get rid of my XP partition, that gave me a whole bunch of headaches the whole day as my aprtiton tables got screwed up
[12:57] <johnny__> thank you guys for the help :)
[12:57] <Seeker2599> i downloaded it from add/remove
[12:57] <mighty_falcon> sethk: i finally fixed it all, but now when i plus in my ipod, usbdrive etc
[12:57] <graveson> seeker2599: you specify the directory to save it to
[12:57] <LjL> Yourname: if you open a private query with the bot and type terms, it is likely to give you some information about them. it's often useful.
[12:57] <Em3rald> tsoler:  OR, if you have a list of usernames somewhere in this channel, double-click my name or right-click or something.
[12:57] <tsoler> emerald i found you
[12:57] <Em3rald> okay
[12:58] <Seeker2599> it didnt ask me to
[12:58] <Yourname> LjL: Thanks again.
[12:58] <tsoler> do u see me
[12:58] <watson540> Yourname:: heh,, well i wasntreally aiming at you, but a lot of these people need to get un-lazy and start googling, although i doubt linux is vieing for anyone to cross over seeing as its non-profit
[12:58] <mighty_falcon> sethk: it doesnt autmount them anymore i have to do it by hand
[12:58] <Em3rald> Um, nope.  Wierd
[12:58] <fiveiron> ok, so my baby daughter seems to have stopped my 6.10 upgrade... and i'm having some issues removing courier-authdaemon.  it tells me to reinstall it before attempting to remove.  but every time i try to install it I get errors... anyone know if I can just forcibly remove the app or just tell the update manager to not worry about it
[12:58] <Em3rald> Hmm, I could create a temp channel maybe ... #em3rald and you could /join #em3rald
[12:58] <pak-x> can someone help me please?  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[12:59] <tsoler> dont you get my mesagges there?
[12:59] <Yourname> watson540: Sure. But, if Google records the queries I must've given it to tell me how to upgrade a .tgz or install one, or get WPA to work with my drivers.. then Google would know me by first name.
[12:59] <mcphail> fiveiron: have you tried "sudo apt-get install -f"?
[12:59] <bluk> LjL: init still in text mode, but the reinstall went fine. could you give me an advice on which script to look at (if there's one) ?
[12:59] <tsoler> i saw yours
[12:59] <Em3rald> tsoler:  nope
[12:59] <b03nto> Liuiti, is that mac enough for u ? i doubt the logo thing will work anyway...
[12:59] <Em3rald> oop phone
[12:59] <watson540> Yourname:: they know me by my email cause i keep a jar of cookies for them
[12:59] <tsoler> let me find you , one minute please
[12:59] <sethk> mighty_falcon, in fstab, make sure the "noauto" option is not set.
[01:00] <sethk> mighty_falcon, do you mean that you want it to mount at boot time, or when you connect it?
[01:00] <fiveiron> mcphail, yep... it tells me this:
[01:00] <watson540> seriously though, in the time it takes to come in here and beg ppl t o show you how to un tar a file you could have built it and had it running using google
[01:00] <cafuego> whut?
[01:00] <fiveiron> dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove):
[01:00] <fiveiron>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[01:00] <fiveiron>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[01:00] <bluk> LjL: oh but i realize, maybe the usplash is working in fact, but the "graphical tty" (i don't know how it's called) isn't activated anymore?
[01:00] <kurto> Was wondering if anyone had any tips on swapping out their system disk.  I used a 200gig ATA drive for my install, but now realize I need to segregate some of the data physically for performance
[01:00] <kurto> so I want to replace it with a 40 gig drive without having to rebuild the box....
[01:01] <Em3rald> tsoler:  can you /join #em3rald?
[01:01] <LjL> bluk: type "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep slash". does it show anything?
[01:01] <mighty_falcon> sethl: when i connect it
[01:01] <sethk> kurto, you can do that, primarily by changing some directories to symbolic links, and pointing the links at whatever other drive now contains the actual data.
[01:01] <cafuego> kurto: Insert the 40GB, install system. Boot, mount 200GB, move cfg files, link actual data...
[01:01] <johnny__> i downloaded my wireless driver and opened the folder. my driver.inf is not in there
[01:02] <bluk> i suppose you mean "grep splash"
[01:02] <sethk> mighty_falcon, that's related to the hotswap configuration, not really to fstab.  look into the udev settings.
[01:02] <dbmerk> I have forced block checking on my hard drive and there are 495 bad blocks, but when i go through the installer it insists that the / partition be formatted, and then the install hangs at 70% while copying files again
[01:02] <sethk> mighty_falcon, BRB
[01:02] <LjL> bluk: yes, i do :)
[01:02] <mighty_falcon> sethk: when I connect it, i got the ipod to mount manually but would be nice if it automounted
[01:02] <kurto> At the costs of drives, it's probably easier for me to just buy another disk, hunh.....
[01:02] <bluk> i remember having seen it, give me a minute
[01:02] <dbmerk> does anyone know a way to force the installer itself while it is formatting / to do a bad block check ?
[01:02] <mighty_falcon> sethk: where would i find the udev settings?
[01:02] <protex> Guys, my Banshee music list has no fonts, anyone have this problem?
[01:02] <kurto> The box is my mythtv box and It took me MONTHS to get it working correctly.
[01:02] <binfalse2> testing thttpd with cgi-bin: http://84.179.122.120:29000/
[01:02] <johnny__> i suppose i need it for sudo ndiswrapper -i /Desktop/your_driver.inf
[01:03] <lenath> sethk: I've been following this method: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/softinstall.html However I stall on step two. I can't do a ./configure to output the makefile needed for make install
[01:03] <fangbite> What's the package name for gnome? (for apt-get)
[01:03] <johnny__> ic nevermind
[01:03] <LjL> dbmerk: perhaps the better option is saying RIP to that hard drive. do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled in the BIOS? if not, try enabling it and seeing if it reports a failure. if it does, time to change your drive.
[01:03] <Vaske_Car> what is the best password manager for Gnome?
[01:03] <johso> one of my fat32 drives goes read-only everytime i start my computer. I'm pretty sure there's an error on it. how can I fix the error without wiping everything on it?
[01:04] <dbmerk> ljl: no smart it's quite old
[01:04] <Vaske_Car> johso, check out for a software called spinrite
[01:04] <bluk> LjL: hmm the only args to the kernel are: root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet
[01:04] <dbmerk> ljl: but i would rather get it working, it's fairly common to do a bad block check, not sure why it isn't doing one
[01:04] <bluk> altho i'm sure i've seen it before
[01:04] <LjL> bluk: add a "splash" to that
[01:04] <bluk> shall i add "splash" ?
[01:04] <bluk> okay thanks :)
[01:04] <fiveiron> mcphail, any ideas?
[01:04] <mcphail> fiveiron: fortunately, i've never had a package in " a very bad inconsistent state"! Maybe it would work if you use aptitude instead of apt-get to do the reinstall?
[01:04] <green_earz> Vaske_Car: have a look at mypasswordsafe if thats what your looking for
[01:05] <fangbite> What's the package name for gnome?
[01:05] <fangbite> I can't get apt-get to install it
[01:05] <mcphail> fiveiron: failing that, you could try the various "force" options. That would be a last resort, tough
[01:05] <mcphail> *though
[01:05] <pak-x> can someone help me please?  XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool???? can no one help me -.-
[01:05] <LjL> bluk, if you install from the Alternate CD, it should give you an option for *not* formatting the partition. not sure the Desktop CD has such an option.
[01:06] <fangbite> pak-x, run cpan
[01:06] <fangbite> Then install XML::Parser
[01:06] <bluk> okay i get it now, after moving the partition, i did reinstall grub manually -not thru Ubuntu install- and of course it didn't set splash by default, hence the "disappearance", thanks a lot to make me understand that, sorry for the, after all, stupid question :)
[01:06] <dbmerk> ljl: i think that was meant for me, thanks i'll check it out
[01:06] <merlin> installed nvidia driver after installing edgy.. reboots and Big blue screen with %'s all over it saying xorg is screwed up
[01:06] <LjL> fangbite: if you are using Ubuntu (rather than Kubuntu or Xubuntu or something), you have Gnome already installed. otherwise, you can install the "ubuntu-desktop" package.
[01:06] <johso> Vaske_Car: Thanks, that software looks really useful (wish I'd know it before), but I can access my data fine. problem is that I can't write. tried it before, and moved everything to another computer, wiped the disk and moved everything back. but I was wondering if this was doable without moving everything, just fixing it.
[01:06] <fangbite> LjL, I did the alternate install
[01:07] <LjL> dbmerk, yes, it was. sorry bluk.
[01:07] <fangbite> It gave me the X login screen, but it can't login
[01:07] <bod_> merlin:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[01:07] <fangbite> I'm in a failsafe terminal
[01:07] <mighty_falcon> sethk: any ideas?
[01:08] <LjL> fangbite: well, i don't know what that could be due to, but try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" anyway
[01:08] <LjL> fangbite: what does "can't login" mean anyway? it refuses to accept your password, it goes straight back to the login screen without saying a thing...?
[01:08] <fangbite> It says it's installed
[01:09] <fangbite> LjL, it says the session lasted under a second then returned to the login screen
[01:09] <bluk> why "sorry"? you were great!
[01:09] <Vaske_Car> johso, check out for a software called QuickTechPro it is capable to deply test hard drive
[01:09] <Vaske_Car> green_earz, installed mypasswordsafe, how to start it, it is not in menu list
[01:11] <pak-x> also i have the problem, then when i type "perl Makefile.PL" it works and no error comes, but when i then type "make", he is saying, that i dont know "make"? sorry
[01:11] <LookTJ> where is the official gentoo ?
[01:11] <pak-x> i = he
[01:11] <green_earz> Vaske_Car: from the command line  /usr/bin/MyPasswordSafe
[01:12] <totall_6_7> Vaske_Car: the name is the command to start it
[01:12] <totall_6_7> Vaske_Car: mypasswordsafe
[01:13] <Vaske_Car> is there a way to add it to the menu?
[01:13] <LjL> LookTJ: why don't you ask that in the gentoo channel?
[01:14] <johnny__> i have installed my driver .inf file but the terminal said "couldn't copy /Desktop/mrv8k51.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135." do i have to manually edit this?
[01:14] <mighty_falcon> anyone know how to automount a device when plugged in??
[01:15] <sethk> LookTJ, gentoo is #masochists
[01:15] <merlin> hrmm... my system should be able to handle XGL and such.
[01:15] <merlin> 2.8Ghz P4, GeForce 5500 256mb, 1.2gb ram.
[01:16] <bod_> mine loves it
[01:17] <bod_> 2.8 GF 4000 64mb 2 gig
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to fix this?:  HP Pavilion dv4150us laptop; gets really hot and then the fan finally kicks in (hard), cools it off, and stops, rather than running more frequently or continuously at a lower speed.
[01:18] <bod_> tonyyarusso: yeah buy an IBM
[01:18] <bod_> :)
[01:18] <Marsmensch> !pastbin
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <Marsmensch> !past
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <binfalse2> !paste
[01:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> bod_: Funny thing, that's what I did.  :)  I'm trying to solve a friend's issue.
[01:19] <bod_> ;)
[01:19] <Marsmensch> thx binfalse2
[01:19] <mighty_falcon> anyone know where the automount settings for the devices are?
[01:19] <binfalse2> np, martian
[01:19] <totall_6_7> Vaske_Car: what is the first thing you click to get to the menu you want to add it to (what is the name of that item you are clicking)
[01:19] <bod_> i have an advent that does the same thing
[01:19] <sethk> tonyyarusso, the fan turn on temp is usually configurable in the BIOS
[01:20] <bod_> try setting power saving to low
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Noted.  I know some things are software controlled though; any idea what the distinction is?
[01:20] <Xal2> I'm getting the following error when using this command: make kpkg-clean
[01:20] <Xal2> make: *** No rule to make target `kpkg-clean'.  Stop.
[01:21] <habeeb> Hello, as always, my fglrxinfo works alright, but I dont have Direct Rendering, also I cant use fgl_glxgears
[01:21] <b03nto> Xal2, i think its make-kpkg clean
[01:21] <Xal2> ah right
[01:22] <Xal2> ^^
[01:23] <merlin> blah.
[01:23] <apjone> hi , can anyone tell me what port i need open on my firewall to recieve mail, i am running postfix / courier
[01:23] <habeeb> Any ideas, on why I cant see the alltray tray icon?
[01:24] <habeeb> And is there any Mac dock for GNOME, like kiba-dock, that support transparency without a composite manager?
[01:24] <LjL> apjone: "cat /etc/services | grep -i <service>". i suppose you're looking for the SMTP service
[01:24] <dolphy> is there anyway to use lilo instead of grub out of the dapper install live cd ?
[01:25] <dolphy> dapper's grub fails miserably on mac mini intel
[01:25] <jbmigel> im getting warnings that my disk is full... is there a way to compress everything for space and run a little slower?
[01:25] <megauei> hello
[01:25] <LjL> jbmigel: not on ext3 that i know of.
[01:25] <poningru> !clit
[01:25] <j2daosh> i know this is slightly off-topic, but how can i burn 6 cd iso's onto 1 dvd and still have them be bootable?
[01:25] <poningru> ...
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <poningru> !convertlit
[01:26] <sethk> j2daosh, no
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convertlit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <j2daosh> no, like its not possible...?
[01:26] <sethk> j2daosh, no, like if you just copy them all to a dvd it won't work.
[01:26] <megauei> just checking: the upgrade to Edgy proccess is around 2 hrs rigth?
[01:29] <bun-bun> anyone know of any good tools for extracting cd audio to wav format?
[01:30] <megauei> bun-bun,  I use k3b
[01:30] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to launch a terminal without window decorations?
[01:30] <bun-bun> megauei# does that require kde?
[01:30] <talisein> chuckyp: you probably want something like eterm
[01:30] <megauei> nope
[01:30] <megauei> I have it under gnome
[01:31] <bun-bun> megauei# thanks for the tip, i will check it out
[01:31] <LjL> bun-bun: it is a KDE program. like all KDE programs, you can run it under Gnome as well, it'll just install a bunch of KDE librari.es
[01:31] <megauei> ox
[01:31] <LjL> bun-bun: "cdparanoia" is a command line application.
[01:31] <bun-bun> LjL# yeah anything that starts with "k" i worry about :)
[01:32] <LjL> bun-bun: for a Gnome app, you could try "grip"
[01:32] <jaimiedrolet> Hi
[01:32] <preaction> bun-bun, even klogd and kjournald?
[01:33] <jaimiedrolet> I can't seem to get FrostWire installed.  Anyone able to help me please?  I'm using kubuntu.
[01:33] <LjL> !frostwire
[01:33] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:33] <jaimiedrolet> Well, I see it installed in pplications, but it won't load when I'm clicking it
[01:33] <megauei> so u wont have problems with amaroK lol ^^
[01:34] <jaimiedrolet> Well, I see it installed in applications, but it won't load when I'm clicking it
[01:34] <LjL> jaimiedrolet: try running "frostwire" from a terminal
[01:35] <Liuiti> how i done the pannel as mac osx ?
[01:35] <LjL> Liuiti: sorry?
[01:35] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, try typing frostwire in a terminal
[01:35] <jaimiedrolet> it says I don't have a valid JRE
[01:35] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, you need java run time
[01:35] <b03nto> Liuiti, have u try this link http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
[01:36] <jaimiedrolet> Well I downloaded it
[01:36] <jaimiedrolet> and installed it I think
[01:36] <jaimiedrolet> but it looks like it didn't work
[01:36] <jaimiedrolet> Actually I'm a noob with Linux :P
[01:36] <thcrw8383> Me too
[01:36] <thcrw8383> but im learning
[01:36] <jaimiedrolet> I installed it yesterday... I wanted to use it with Win Xp but I've got an error and it formatted all of my partitions
[01:37] <jaimiedrolet> And I couldn't seem to find my winxp cd
[01:37] <thcrw8383> :( so sorry
[01:37] <jaimiedrolet> so I just re-entered the Kubuntu cd :/
[01:37] <jaimiedrolet> and installed it... and btw
[01:37] <thcrw8383> Believe me,After using Ubuntu,You wont want to go back
[01:37] <jaimiedrolet> I'm getting error 901 wityh Kopete pretty often
[01:37] <thcrw8383> I use GAIM
[01:38] <quilzo> I've been using kubuntu for the last few days
[01:38] <jaimiedrolet> It's better for MSN?
[01:38] <quilzo> apt-get install has changed my life
[01:38] <jaimiedrolet> lol :P
[01:38] <jaimiedrolet> anyways
[01:38] <quilzo> I've never felt so 1337
[01:38] <jaimiedrolet> can anyone help me install frostwire?%
[01:38] <jaimiedrolet> well it's installed
[01:38] <quilzo> can't download the package
[01:38] <jaimiedrolet> but I mean...to install the good JRE
[01:39] <chuckyp> !enter > jaimiedrolet
[01:39] <chuckyp> !frostwire > jaimiedrolet
[01:40] <jaimiedrolet> What's with the enter thing?
[01:40] <quilzo> !enter > quilzo
[01:40] <jaimiedrolet> I cannot press enter to send my message?
[01:40] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, stop using it as punctuation.
[01:40] <[GuS] > Aurevoir!
[01:40] <quilzo> ahaa.
[01:40] <jaimiedrolet> I don't understand what you mean ^o)
[01:40] <quilzo> omg
[01:40] <jaimiedrolet> I cannot press enter to send my message?
[01:40] <LjL> jaimiedrolet, you simply <enter> should avoid <enter> to write sentences <enter> this way
[01:40] <talisein> don't send your message until you're done writing.
[01:40] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, follow the directions below to get frostwire installed.
[01:40] <chuckyp> !frostwire
[01:40] <tsole1> is emerald here?
[01:40] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:41] <Em3rald> yup
[01:41] <jaimiedrolet> I'm not sending until I'm done writing :o
[01:41] <quilzo> hahahaha
[01:41] <megauei> xD
[01:41] <chuckyp> LjL, its not even worth trying to explain it.
[01:41] <jaimiedrolet> Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I understand what you mean!
[01:41] <megauei> lol
[01:41] <tsole1> ive lost my connection
[01:41] <Em3rald> tsole1:  you got disconnected or something?  It shows the channel is stil opem
[01:41] <quilzo> WHAHAAHHA
[01:41] <tsole1> yes
[01:41] <Em3rald> Okay ... /join #em3rald again
[01:41] <jaimiedrolet> I'll try to stop it... I'm used to MSN :P
[01:41] <brasko_> how do I know what version number of ubuntu I have installed?
[01:42] <tsole1> it did sign me in with a different nick
[01:42] <LjL> brasko_: cat /etc/issue
[01:42] <jaimiedrolet> Anyways... can anyone can help me install the good JRE to run forstwire?
[01:42] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet,  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:42] <Em3rald> that's okay.
[01:42] <brasko_> thanks!
[01:42] <jaimiedrolet> Is there the infos on the JRE?
[01:42] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, I'm not going to read it for you.
[01:42] <jaimiedrolet> Sorry...
[01:42] <b03nto> brasko_, or lsb_release -a
[01:42] <gansinho> please, how do I edit my session list from comand line... I'm stuck !
[01:42] <megauei> jamie u maybe shoul reinstall JRE
[01:43] <megauei> *d
[01:43] <LjL> !java
[01:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:43] <LjL> jaimiedrolet: ^
[01:43] <jaimiedrolet> Yep?
[01:43] <Liuiti> how i done the pannel as mac osx ?
[01:43] <quilzo> LjL: getting used of ^^ requiring 4 taps ?
[01:43] <LjL> jaimiedrolet: the message above.
[01:43] <megauei> lol
[01:43] <maziah> ubuntu rox
[01:43] <megauei> ^
[01:43] <LjL> quilzo: ...?
[01:44] <quilzo> :p
[01:44] <LjL> quilzo, indeed, typing ^^ requires four taps here, but...?! :o)
[01:45] <quilzo> hahaha
[01:45] <LjL> well, five, there is Shift too
[01:45] <quilzo> because you typed ^
[01:45] <LjL> quilzo: quick way of saying "look at the message above" :)
[01:45] <megauei> its longer an upgrade than reinstall ubuntu? o.0
[01:45] <quilzo> I typed ^ for 2 days while trying to type ^^
[01:45] <megauei> hahaha same here
[01:45] <megauei> xD
[01:46] <quilzo> just couldn't make the switch
[01:46] <quilzo> I can never go back to windows, or I will type ^^^^ and be outcast
[01:46] <jaimiedrolet> I wanted to know
[01:46] <eternalswd> how dow I get my Second Screen to dipslay 1280x1024 in Gnome as I have set it to be in my xorg.conf?
[01:47] <jaimiedrolet> Is there anyway I can get the sudo mode or su mode working without entering any password, and moving any files to anywhere without ever being prompted because I don't have the permission to do it?
[01:47] <quilzo> xorg xorg-configure -d 2 -r 13
[01:47] <LjL> quilzo: just use a different keyboard layout then :-P for that matter, i believe that we're using the same layout right now, but that's purely coincidential. my keyboard would normally require just two taps :)
[01:47] <jaimiedrolet> And without using the konsole neither *
[01:47] <sethk> gansinho, you mean the sessions available at the login screen?
[01:48] <quilzo> jaimiedrolet: settings
[01:48] <quilzo> "display"
[01:48] <quilzo> hardware
[01:48] <sethk> jaimiedrolet, you can set the root password and do su.   or you can use  su -i
[01:48] <dm1tri> hi
[01:48] <sethk> jaimiedrolet, sorry, sudo -i
[01:48] <quilzo> sethk: he won't use the console :p
[01:48] <quilzo> sethk: and he calls it konsole because that's the name of the konsole gui in kde :p
[01:48] <quilzo> aaah console*
[01:49] <sethk> quilzo, then where is he typing the password he's trying not to type?
[01:49] <sethk> jaimiedrolet, you can start a file browsing program as root, if that's what you are asking
[01:49] <quilzo> hey, I didn't say he was succeeding :p
[01:49] <quilzo> he wants his display changed :p
[01:50] <quilzo> jaimiedrolet: ?
[01:50] <jaimiedrolet> yeah?
[01:50] <quilzo> kde-button, system settings, display
[01:50] <jaimiedrolet> I was trying to install JRE...sorry
[01:50] <quilzo> hu :p
[01:50] <quilzo> wtf, who am I talking to
[01:51] <quilzo> eternalswd: ?
[01:51] <quilzo> he left?
[01:51] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, Did you try the directions on the web page?
[01:51] <quilzo> he left
[01:51] <jaimiedrolet> I am setting the channels of Ubuntu LTS Source
[01:52] <quilzo> the sounddrivers don't make any sense
[01:52] <quilzo> I can change every option and it will still sound the same
[01:52] <jaimiedrolet> but it says that another app likeapt-get or aptitude is running...
[01:52] <quilzo> adept ?
[01:52] <quilzo> automatix ?
[01:52] <jaimiedrolet> *like apt-get
[01:52] <quilzo> another console ?
[01:52] <jaimiedrolet> hmmmm
[01:52] <jaimiedrolet> where can I go to see the running processes?
[01:52] <quilzo> ps -e in console
[01:53] <quilzo> root if you want to see those before kde-init (which you don't want)
[01:53] <quilzo> or stuff you started as root
[01:53] <quilzo> (which I doubt you can)
[01:53] <hype> top is usefull too
[01:53] <quilzo> as in, putting a root-app in your user-de :p
[01:53] <quilzo> kde*
[01:53] <quilzo> found it?
[01:54] <jaimiedrolet> nah
[01:54] <jaimiedrolet> I have no idea what the app that is blocking is
[01:54] <quilzo> adept, apt-get, automatix.py
[01:54] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, make sure synaptic is closed as well as update manager.
[01:54] <sipher> I just tried installing Ubuntu for the first time. Only ever tried Linux on live CD's.. installed from the desktop CD and when it asked the size for the new partition I set it to ~50 gigs.. but it created 2 50 gig partitions and now my win one is left with 4 gigs free. o_O
[01:54] <jaimiedrolet> synaptic is open
[01:54] <LjL> !automatix
[01:54] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[01:55] <jaimiedrolet> how do I shut it off?
[01:55] <quilzo> sipjer: problem is ?
[01:55] <quilzo> sipher*
[01:55] <quilzo> sipher: delete second partition and resize windows
[01:55] <sipher> quandar: Problem is I wanted Ubuntu to take 50 gigs _max_.. and I need a lot more for win
[01:55] <chuckyp> LjL, i'm going to eat a bullet
[01:55] <quilzo> sipher: read what i typed
[01:56] <quilzo> chuckyp: why?
[01:56] <jaimiedrolet> Can anyone tell me how to shut synaptic off with a terminal command?
[01:56] <quilzo> killall synaptic
[01:56] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, sudo killall synaptic
[01:56] <hype> sudo killall synaptic
[01:56] <hype> owned
[01:56] <hype> :)
[01:56] <chuckyp> ?
[01:56] <quilzo> you were third
[01:56] <jaimiedrolet> Thanks a lot :D
[01:56] <hype> sudo :p
[01:56] <chuckyp> quilzo, your's was wrong though
[01:57] <hype> ^^
[01:57] <quilzo> I always go root
[01:57] <quilzo> Core :p
[01:57] <quilzo> I wanted to get kde to run in tty1 with root
[01:57] <PumpkinPie> quilzo: can you sound more fedora?
[01:57] <quilzo> but i'm not 1337 enough yet
[01:57] <PumpkinPie> "Always go ROOT, to the CORE   core 5!"
[01:57] <sipher> quilzo: I don't know what I'm doing. Last time I created seperate partitions was in win 3.1
[01:57] <PumpkinPie> FC 5!
[01:57] <quilzo> sipher: WHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
[01:58] <sipher> :p
[01:58] <kitche> quilzo: well to get tty1 using kde you owuld have to have X use it
[01:58] <sipher> or :( rather
[01:58] <quilzo> hahahahaahahahahahah
[01:58] <quilzo> kitche: I will need windows for the endless loop of stupidity
[01:58] <sipher> quilzo: I have a second HDD that I use for backup.. never needed to artition
[01:59] <sipher> partition*
[01:59] <quilzo> sipher: doesn't come in handy now hu, does it ? :p
[02:00] <dm1tri> How i configure epiphany to save all tabs when to exit ?
[02:00] <quilzo> ain't epiphany a holiday ?
[02:01] <bod_> nah its a religious experence
[02:01] <quilzo> which should save all tabs on exit...
[02:01] <ianmacgregor> No, it's a game
[02:01] <megauei> its my dream bike
[02:01] <quilzo> where you play 3 kings who follow a star?
[02:01] <megauei> sniF
[02:01] <wickedpuppy>  /j #kubuntu
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:01] <quilzo> uhhm
[02:02] <quilzo> don't do that in #debian :p
[02:02] <dm1tri> quilzo, possible save tabs in epiphany ?
[02:02] <quilzo> dibs on the crown
[02:02] <XVampireX> dm1tri, I wish that too :P
[02:02] <KanRiNiN> I have slow video under XGL.  I think I just need to change the driver to gl2 to something.  I'm using totem-gstreamer.  How can I do this?
[02:02] <klees> hey guys
[02:03] <klees> i'm starting to learn Python and was wondering if there was an IDE for it?
[02:03] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, You use xv right now?
[02:03] <quilzo> kdevelop probably
[02:03] <klees> i'm in Ubuntu
[02:03] <kitche> klees: yea there's one that comes with python
[02:03] <klees> command line?
[02:03] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, Also, video as in, video files?
[02:03] <quilzo> for kdevelop ?
[02:03] <KanRiNiN> XVampireX: Yes, I believe so
[02:04] <klees> kitche: is the IDE command line?
[02:04] <KanRiNiN> as in xvid and divx that previously played well in Gnome
[02:04] <dm1tri> XVampireX, ;-)
[02:04] <KanRiNiN> And actually continue to do so in my gnome session w/o xgl
[02:04] <kitche> klees: it's a gui program
[02:04] <klees> kitche: what's the command to start it?
[02:04] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, what program? And what video output?
[02:04] <quilzo> for that video, just auto-install all the codecs you can find
[02:04] <quilzo> it worked for me
[02:05] <quilzo> I even recovered my porn from a ntfs-partition
[02:05] <XVampireX> dm1tri, ty ruski?
[02:05] <quilzo> sounds stupid
[02:06] <quilzo> some guy said python was poo-lisp...
[02:06] <dm1tri> XVampireX, brazilian
[02:06] <XVampireX> dm1tri, Ah, okey :P
[02:06] <XVampireX> dm1tri, nick sounds like a russian name
[02:06] <KanRiNiN> XVampireX: Sorry, it crashed.. I'm bback
[02:06] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, You can't use opengl programs on top of XGL
[02:06] <kitche> klees: trying to find out since it escapes me at the moment
[02:07] <klees> kitche: np
[02:07] <DualCortex_> could someone tell me how to compile programs in C++, i switched over from WIndows but programming is my main hobby
[02:07] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, did you try XV?
[02:07] <Seeker2599> where do i find the files under my applications toolbar using the file browser
[02:07] <InnerFIRE> how do i install a metacity theme?
[02:07] <KanRiNiN> XVampireX: I went to gstreamer-properties, and the input is Video for Linux 1 and the output is autodetect
[02:07] <InnerFIRE> it says file invalid
[02:07] <XVampireX> !programming
[02:07] <XVampireX> !build
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:07] <jaimiedrolet> I use EasyUbuntu to install Sun-java5-plugin and it won't work.  It says that the paquet isn't available...  Anyone can help please?
[02:08] <DualCortex_> Ill read that link
[02:08] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, Are you trying to view movies?
[02:08] <KanRiNiN> I changed it to Xv.  Let me test it XVampireX
[02:08] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, Alright :)
[02:09] <XVampireX> KanRiNiN, XV is the best video output
[02:09] <XVampireX> V4L is for video input
[02:09] <jaimiedrolet>  use EasyUbuntu to install Sun-java5-plugin and it won't work.  It says that the paquet isn't available...  Anyone can help please?
[02:09] <InnerFIRE> metacity theme anyone? how do i install one?
[02:09] <DualCortex_> are there any graphic development environments that don't require me to use the terminal every time just to debug my code
[02:09] <Seeker2599> where do i find the files under my applications toolbar using the file browser?
[02:09] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, need to enable universe and multiverse
[02:09] <XVampireX> !univese
[02:10] <XVampireX> !universe
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about univese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:10] <kitche> klees: it's called IDLE
[02:10] <klees> kitche: cool thx
[02:10] <XVampireX> IDLE is awesome
[02:11] <quilzo> idle ?
[02:11] <jaimiedrolet> I've made it universe already
[02:11] <jaimiedrolet> In the channel things...
[02:11] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, sudo apt-get update
[02:11] <XVampireX> Errr, you need to update
[02:11] <quilzo> I have all the standards and the automix ones
[02:12] <jaimiedrolet> There
[02:12] <jaimiedrolet> now it should work&
[02:12] <jaimiedrolet> ?
[02:12] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know anything about getting the built-in bluetooth in a toshiba laptop working?
[02:12] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, yes
[02:12] <jaimiedrolet> still same error
[02:13] <quilzo> KDE has bluetooth chat...
[02:13] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, sec
[02:13] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, linux is case sensitive
[02:13] <SpudDogg> quilzo, i've installed that, but i cannot get the device workin g
[02:13] <jaimiedrolet> it worked.  it has done the updates
[02:13] <quilzo> rodger
[02:13] <DualCortex_> hmm well I fount it myself... Eclipse seem slike a good IDE
[02:13] <jaimiedrolet> it just won't work with easyubuntu
[02:14] <quilzo> seems like easyubuntu is a pain in the ass
[02:14] <Squirrles> Would anyone know how to configure an ATI Raedon graphics card
[02:14] <quilzo> Squirrles: I have an ATI radeon too :)
[02:14] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[02:14] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, do that in console
[02:15] <jaimiedrolet> it says there's no packet with the name of sun-java5-plugin
[02:15] <dm1tri> How i configure epiphany to save all tabs when to exit ?
[02:15] <dm1tri> save session
[02:15] <jaimiedrolet> :(
[02:15] <XVampireX> dm1tri, there's no such thing in epiphany
[02:15] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know anything about getting the built-in bluetooth in a toshiba laptop working?
[02:15] <dm1tri> XVampireX, :'(
[02:15] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, hmm, did you enable ALL repositories?
[02:15] <Squirrles> can somone tell me how to install my ATI Raedon graphics card with ubuntu
[02:16] <DualCortex_> dm1tri, I think you are confusing Epiphany with Opera
[02:16] <jaimiedrolet> what's "ALL" repositories?
[02:16] <bun-bun> anyone use yahoopops?
[02:16] <ericmoritz\0> hey, is there a command line app that can watch a file for change and then execute a command if there's a change?
[02:16] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, ALL = all
[02:16] <dm1tri> Firefox(extension: save session)
[02:16] <XVampireX> dm1tri, epiphany is not exactly firefox
[02:17] <ArrenLex> Has anyone ever installed\heard of someone install ubuntu\any linux on an intel mac? Are there any hoops to jump through? Any resources available?
[02:17] <jaimiedrolet> well...I went to change the channels... and then I clicked on  Ubuntu 6.06 LT (Source), clicked add and checked them all.  is that what you mean?
[02:17] <ericmoritz\0> ArrenLex, Search digg.com, I think I've seen it a fee times there
[02:17] <ericmoritz\0> fee = few
[02:17] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, source is just that, source...
[02:17] <XVampireX> meh, just a sec
[02:17] <XVampireX> !repositories
[02:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:18] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, please read through the second link
[02:18] <ArrenLex> If it's on digg.com I assume that it's a horrible hack someone managed to make half-work by soldering some extra chips and hex-editing some mac software?
[02:18] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:19] <kitche> ArrenLex: think bootcamp can install stuff easily
[02:19] <effie_jayx> has anybody experience cosntant freezes ??
[02:19] <scandium> hello, is there a reason why launchpad bug 57595 has been idle for weeks although it's about a package of "main" and a security issue (amongst other bugs)?
[02:19] <ArrenLex> Does bootcamp support any OS, or only Windows? Does it come with the system?
[02:20] <ericmoritz\0> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183472
[02:20] <eternalswd> how do I change which screen gets xv usage.  I have an ati with one bes and would like to allow my tv screen to use xv rather than my monitor.
[02:20] <XVampireX> ArrenLex, I think only windows
[02:20] <effie_jayx> I have , and I switch to the vesa driver... but I would like to use the ati driver... :(
[02:20] <ArrenLex> eric: awesome, I'll check it out. Thanks!
[02:20] <ericmoritz\0> here's the actual install link, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1060679&postcount=22
[02:21] <ericmoritz\0> the previous one was just someone asking about what would work
[02:22] <ericmoritz\0> wtf, sorry ignore that last link, the title of the link wasn't what it actually was
[02:22] <ArrenLex> Awesome, looks good.
[02:23] <ArrenLex> This is for a macbook... how about a mac mini?
[02:23] <ericmoritz\0> I know my coworker got it working with parallels
[02:23] <ArrenLex> that's an emulator, isn't it?
[02:23] <ericmoritz\0> no, it's virtualization software
[02:23] <K1765> grem
[02:23] <ArrenLex> Yes, is what I mean.
[02:23] <ArrenLex> Like vmware\virtual pc.
[02:23] <ArrenLex> Yes?
[02:23] <ericmoritz\0> it doesn't emulate, it translates
[02:24] <ericmoritz\0> ArrenLex, yeah it's really fast too
[02:24] <jaimiedrolet> I'm sorry, but I've just enabled all the "deb" and "deb-src" to universe and multiverse
[02:24] <jaimiedrolet> and it's still giving me the packet error
[02:24] <ericmoritz\0> ArrenLex, I couldn't tell that Ubuntu wasn't running natively
[02:24] <K1765> Hey, where in bios is the driver settings, cuz i dont see one
[02:24] <XVampireX> jaimiedrolet, what packet error?
[02:24] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, if you read the directions on the page I sent you it goes in to detail on how to install frostwire.
[02:25] <chuckyp> !frostwire
[02:25] <jaimiedrolet> Well I have Kubuntu in French =/  So I can translate
[02:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:25] <chuckyp> !fr
[02:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:25] <merlin> wow...
[02:25] <jaimiedrolet> Yes Chucky but I can't seem to get java working
[02:25] <chuckyp> jaimiedrolet, did you try the fr channel?
[02:25] <jaimiedrolet> thanks much :)
[02:26] <jaimiedrolet> Yeah I went.  Thanks for everything bro
[02:26] <K1765> where in bios is the driver settings, cuz i dont see one
[02:26] <chuckyp> K1765, driver settings?
[02:27] <Em3rald> for a repository list, if a person is in Greece, which is the best country code to go with (like http://ca.ubuntu.~~~~)
[02:27] <chuckyp> !sources
[02:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:27] <chuckyp> !easysource > Em3rald
[02:28] <merlin> every time i reboot my edgy box... it says xorg.conf is messed up
[02:28] <ArrenLex> Thanks LOTS for all the help, ericmoriz! :) It looks awesome.
[02:28] <chuckyp> merlin, what do you end up donig to get X working?
[02:28] <merlin> re-installing nvidia drivers
[02:28] <Em3rald> tx
[02:28] <merlin> then startx. and it works beautifully
[02:28] <chuckyp> merlin, How are you i nstalling them?
[02:29] <merlin> from the nvidia site.
[02:29] <K1765> sethk u there?
[02:29] <chuckyp> merlin, I would just make sure the nvidia module is getting loaded.
[02:29] <melon> ok - i can't unrar a rar file.. i do "apt-get install unrar" - but it says i don't have permissions - which is really odd as it's something i've never encountered before - any ideas?
[02:29] <merlin> im a complete n00b... lol
[02:29] <ArrenLex> melon: use sudo for admin tasks.
[02:29] <ArrenLex> sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:29] <chuckyp> merlin, on boot.  after a reboot try lsmod | grep nvidia     see if the module is being loaded.  If its htere make sure that xorg.conf has the driver listed as "nvidia"
[02:29] <XVampireX> chuckyp, install nvidia-glx and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf search for "nv" change it to "nvidia" then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:29] <ninn> Hello. How can i copy every single file, even the hidden onces?
[02:29] <melon> lol - yes.. i do sudo
[02:29] <melon> sorry
[02:30] <merlin> root@filebox:~# lsmod | grep nvidia
[02:30] <merlin> nvidia 4554836 12
[02:30] <merlin> i2c_core 23424 3 nvidia,i2c_ec,i2c_sis96x
[02:30] <merlin> agpgart 34888 2 nvidia,sis_agp
[02:30] <chuckyp> XVampireX, my X is not broken
[02:30] <melon> "sudo apt-get install unrar" is what i typed
[02:30] <kitche> ninn: cp * <where you want to copy to>
[02:30] <XVampireX> chuckyp, I didn't say it was broken, you asked how to install nvidia drivers
[02:30] <ninn> doenst copy the hidden ones :8
[02:30] <ninn> kitche,
[02:30] <XVampireX> chuckyp, wait, lol
[02:30] <ninn> .... :/
[02:30] <chuckyp> XVampireX, no i asked him how he installed them.
[02:30] <XVampireX> chuckyp, lol, sorry, yeah, merlin
[02:31] <merlin> ... lol
[02:31] <merlin> had me confused
[02:31] <Em3rald> well, that easy sources thing is great, but I don't know what the best country code would be.
[02:31] <chuckyp> merlin, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and make sure that under the Device section you have Driver     "nvidia"   instead of "nv"
[02:31] <XVampireX> merlin: do what I told you, or even better yet
[02:31] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <kitche> ninn: cp -R perhaps
[02:31] <ninn> no .. doenst work too ^^^
[02:31] <merlin> Section "Device"
[02:31] <merlin> Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] "
[02:31] <merlin> Driver "nvidia"
[02:31] <merlin> BusID "PCI:0:9:0"
[02:32] <chuckyp> merlin, What sort of error are you getting when you X doesn't work?
[02:32] <merlin> umm...
[02:32] <merlin> i forget, i got used to it and just bypass it and reinstall every time
[02:32] <chuckyp> merlin, you can cat /var/Xorg.0.log | grep EE   for the error
[02:32] <merlin> just set that box to reboot
[02:33] <chuckyp> k
[02:33] <merlin> my linux box is faster than my gaming box.. thats horrible
[02:33] <merlin> well, not really
[02:33] <merlin> >.<
[02:33] <chuckyp> merlin, err.. /var/log/Xorg.0.log   or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old   for the previous one.
[02:33] <chuckyp> merlin, wait till edgy comes out even faster.
[02:34] <XVampireX> merlin, That's normal, linux is faster than windows.
[02:34] <rockzman> jbmigel, yo
[02:34] <merlin> no i mean...
[02:34] <rockzman> jbmigel, ty so much buddy now i am ok =)
[02:34] <merlin> hardware...
[02:34] <merlin> 2.8GHz Pentium 4, 1.2GB ram, GeForce 5500
[02:34] <merlin> for my linux box
[02:35] <DualCortex_> does sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin install the latest java version?
[02:35] <chuckyp> !java
[02:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:36] <rockzman> chuckyp,  can ya gimme some information about some services?
[02:36] <XVampireX> DualCortex_, yes
[02:36] <Chm0d> does ubuntu have a alsa-dev or libasound-dev file anywhere?
[02:37] <rockzman> Chm0d, sudo synaptic
[02:37] <XVampireX> yeah
[02:37] <Chm0d> ive done a search in synaptic with no results
[02:37] <chuckyp> rockzman, what do you want?
[02:38] <rockzman> chuckyp, i want to make my system starts up faster deselecting  some services i dont use
[02:38] <rockzman> chuckyp, would u know how to guide me ?
[02:38] <kitche> Chm0d: just look up alsa
[02:38] <chuckyp> rockzman, hrm... well I would search around the forums there are several guides on that.  Just becarfull deselecting certain services if that are needed for the operation of you system.
[02:39] <rockzman> chuckyp, that is why i am worried ^.^
[02:39] <rockzman> but ok i'll try myself
[02:39] <rockzman> ty anyway
[02:39] <merlin> Okay...got the error
[02:39] <KingLear> Hello all
[02:40] <KingLear> I have a small problem,
[02:40] <Seeker2599> when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?
[02:40] <chuckyp> merlin, What does it say something abou the kernel module?
[02:40] <merlin> Error: API Mismatch: The Nvidia Kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this X module has the version 1.0-8776. Please make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version
[02:40] <KingLear> i have a PCtel Micromodem,
[02:40] <KingLear> and have the drivers as well,
[02:40] <chuckyp> merlin, someone else had this problem the other day and they where using automatix
[02:40] <merlin> i used Envy
[02:40] <merlin> >.<
[02:40] <merlin> so what can i do to right this error
[02:41] <chuckyp> merlin, yeah you need to remove their version of the nvidia driver then install yours.
[02:41] <KingLear> have compiled gcc as well, except for libstdc, when I try to compile drivers for the modems, it says gcc not found
[02:41] <merlin> blah.
[02:41] <KingLear> what can be the solution?
[02:41] <chuckyp> Is there a log of this channel on the net anywhere?
[02:41] <marcrosoft> So i installed edgy, and i was wondering what i have to do when they release the newer version...
[02:41] <chuckyp> merlin, I thought this channel was logged to the net if so you would be able to find it someone had your exact problem.
[02:41] <chuckyp> !edgy > marcrosoft
[02:42] <mcphail> !logs > chuckyp
[02:42] <[psy] > (Logquote not found ' > chuckyp')
[02:42] <DualCortex_> does anyone know how to uninstall beryl
[02:42] <chuckyp> !logs > merlin
[02:42] <[psy] > (Logquote not found ' > merlin')
[02:42] <chuckyp> mcphail, cool ty
[02:42] <KingLear> any one who can tellme hwo to corect the gcc-4.0 compile problem?
[02:43] <Chm0d> grrr im trying to build a glx app called quetoo on ubuntu what headers and stuff do I need?
[02:43] <ubuntu> hello to everybody
[02:43] <chuckyp> Chm0d, you need build-essentials
[02:43] <Seeker2599> when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?
[02:43] <shawncm217> any recomendation on
[02:43] <ubuntu> excuseme
[02:44] <Chm0d> thats it?
[02:44] <ubuntu> i speak spanish
[02:44] <merlin> holy crap
[02:44] <merlin> thats alot of logs
[02:44] <merlin> >.<
[02:44] <shawncm217> any recommendation on TV software?
[02:44] <ubuntu> whos speak spanish here?
[02:44] <KingLear> anyone please?
[02:44] <chuckyp> merlin, it was either yesterday or the day before.
[02:44] <KingLear> I have problem compiling GCC for the PCtel modem driver...
[02:44] <chuckyp> merlin, he had the exact same error as you so if you search for that you'll find it.
[02:45] <chuckyp> KingLear, why are you compiling gcc?
[02:45] <chuckyp> KingLear, why not just install from synaptic?
[02:45] <Seeker2599> when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?
[02:45] <chuckyp> shawncm217, mythtv
[02:45] <KingLear> chukyp, the problemis that
[02:45] <Chm0d> hmmm couldn't fine build-essentials in synaptic?
[02:45] <KingLear> I have a PCtel micromodem,
[02:46] <chuckyp> !build-essential
[02:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:46] <KingLear> and when I try to install its drivers, the error says, Gcc not found
[02:46] <chuckyp> !build-essentials
[02:46] <KingLear> though I have installed via dpkg, the Gcc 4.0
[02:46] <Seveas> !compiling > KingLear
[02:46] <shawncm217> thanks chuckyp any easy install method?
[02:46] <merlin> umm...
[02:46] <Seeker2599> !avidemux
[02:46] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2607 kB, installed size 6756 kB
[02:46] <merlin> these logs arent too big.. lol
[02:47] <chuckyp> shawncm217, mythtv is more for recording tv are you looking for something just to view tv on your capture card?
[02:47] <Em3rald> avidemux is awesome
[02:47] <bioticpro> G'day yall, q: if blank dvds are 4.7GB capacity, why do all the ripping programs have the default image size set to 4.4GB?
[02:47] <Seeker2599> when i download avidemux it doesnt show up in my sound & video folder why not?
[02:47] <shawncm217> chuckyp: yes
[02:47] <sethk> bioticpro, overhead
[02:47] <KingLear> so?
[02:47] <bioticpro> sethk: what do you mean?
[02:47] <chuckyp> Chm0d, its there package name is build-essential
[02:48] <sethk> bioticpro, the available space on any storage device is always smaller than the raw capacity
[02:48] <chuckyp> merlin, just search don't read throught he whole thing.
[02:48] <Seeker2599> i download and install it with add/remove and after installing i cant find it
[02:48] <BHSPitLappy> bionoid, I think it's a general measurement inconsistency between those who sell media and computers
[02:48] <sethk> bioticpro, in this case you may also be running into the *1000 instead of *1024 issue.
[02:48] <BHSPitLappy> does that make sense
[02:48] <sethk> BHSPitLappy, not the way you said it, but what you meant makes sense.
[02:48] <sethk> :)
[02:49] <BHSPitLappy> hehe
[02:49] <chuckyp> shawncm217, i'm not sure which app to use though I know their are several perhaps search the forums.  People usually post their experiences there.
[02:49] <Chm0d> hmm chuckyp i try to apt-get install build-essential and im not gettin it
[02:49] <mcphail> !info build-essential
[02:49] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:49] <BHSPitLappy> sethk, I prefer to cram the most amount of meaning into the least amount of words... sometimes it confuses people ;)
[02:50] <KingLear> Seveas , that link did not help me .. :(
[02:50] <BadRabbit320> !logs
[02:50] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:50] <[psy] > (Logquote 44 of 83) #leip.log:21:17 [@dpd      ]  [@GanJA_mAN]  [@p00      ]  [@THC      ]  [@Wazzzaaa] 
[02:50] <bioticpro> seth: so if I have a original dvd that says the size is 4.4GB (4,672,000,000) , that means it doesn't need to be shrunk to fit on a single layer disk
[02:50] <Seveas> !logs
[02:50] <[psy] > (Logquote 33 of 83) #leip.log:21:17 [@discarded]  [@F|nger   ]  [@Morte    ]  [@St1      ]  [@vogeltje]  [ Psy0rz   ] 
[02:50] <Chm0d> hmm i alreayd  have build essential installed
[02:50] <sethk> KingLear, after installing, you have to do (in a shell) hash -r
[02:50] <jdolan> hi Chm0d
[02:50] <bioticpro> sethk: G'day yall, q: if blank dvds are 4.7GB capacity, why do all the ripping programs have the default image size set to 4.4GB?
[02:50] <sethk> KingLear, the path is cached
[02:50] <Seeker2599> i downloaded and installed avidemux with add/remove and after installing i cant find it
[02:50] <bioticpro> oops
[02:50] <Chm0d> what do i need to install to build quetoo?
[02:50] <Chm0d> oh hey j
[02:50] <Chm0d> LOL
[02:50] <jdolan> :)
[02:51] <Chm0d> im trying
[02:51] <chuckyp> Chm0d, then you have all the compiliers
[02:51] <bioticpro> sethk: so if I have a original dvd that says the size is 4.4GB (4,672,000,000) , that means it doesn't need to be shrunk to fit on a single layer disk
[02:51] <jdolan> chuckyp, he needs x11 headers, alsa headers, sdl headers, ..
[02:51] <maswan> bioticpro: the first is GB as 10^9, the second GB as 2^30
[02:51] <Chm0d> what about headers for sdl glx and alsa?
[02:51] <KingLear> pardon, sethk? I mean after installing gcc I have to do that? ( hash -r)
[02:51] <sethk> bioticpro, yes, that's correct.
[02:51] <bioticpro> maswan: ok...
[02:51] <sethk> KingLear, yes, if you are trying to compile within a shell
[02:52] <sethk> KingLear, that tells the shell to throw away its cached path info and look for any program you try to run.
[02:52] <snoops> the second GB maswan refers to is otherwise known as GiB - GibiByte
[02:52] <Davey> *sigh* I broke stuff :/
[02:52] <sethk> KingLear, for obvious reasons the shell doesn't want to do that search every time you execute a command.
[02:52] <sethk> Davey, then fix stuff
[02:53] <chuckyp> jdolan, perhaps you can tell him how to install them.
[02:53] <Davey> I edited my /etc/hosts to change the hostname, and uh, sudo doesn't work anymore :(
[02:53] <sethk> Davey, that's not the only place where the host name appears
[02:53] <Seeker2599> i downloaded and installed avidemux with add/remove and after installing i cant find it
[02:53] <sethk> Davey, for the moment, just do:    hostname new-name
[02:53] <Davey> sethk: I know...
[02:53] <KingLear> sethk, when I do the command dpkg -i gcc-4.0.* it is installed, no error out out is seen,
[02:53] <sethk> Davey, at the prompt, then try sudo again from that prompt
[02:53] <Chm0d> chuckyp: he isn't familiar with ubuntu thats what he is in here as well :")
[02:53] <Davey> sethk: I can't.... need root to do that :/
[02:53] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, perhaps its not a gui program and it needs to be launched fromt he terminal?
[02:54] <sethk> Davey, no you don't
[02:54] <KingLear> but when I try to install the drivers for the PCtel modem, the eror says, no gcc found
[02:54] <sethk> Davey, well, yes, in some cases you might
[02:54] <Seeker2599> where would it have ben installed to?
[02:54] <KingLear> sethk what could be the problem?
[02:54] <sethk> Davey, boot the rescue cd
[02:54] <jdolan> Chm0d, sudo apt-get install libxxf86misc-dev libxxf86vm-dev
[02:54] <sethk> KingLear, I've told you that several times.
[02:54] <chuckyp> Chm0d, did you try apt-cache search "whatever"     no quotes of course but to possibly find the packages you are looking for.
[02:54] <sethk> KingLear, specifically, tell me what you are doing.
[02:54] <jdolan> (maybe, just found it googling for 'ubuntu' and header filenames)
[02:55] <sethk> chuckyp, you can use the quotes there, they don't hurt anything
[02:55] <KingLear> sethk I am sure you must have toldme,
[02:55] <KingLear> but I unable to get that..
[02:55] <Seeker2599> chuckyp: where would it have been installed to?
[02:55] <Davey> sethk: I can reboot from the GUI, after that, will it work? I modified /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[02:55] <concept10> how do I get by a package that will not install?  In this case, samba.. it has ruined my dist-upgrade
[02:55] <sethk> KingLear, ok, tell me what you are doing, specifically.
[02:55] <KingLear> sethk , I am trying to install the drivers of a PCtel micromode,
[02:55] <KingLear> when i give the command ./setup
[02:55] <sethk> Davey, it might, or it might bite you because of the inconsistency.  but you have nothing to lose, worst case is you boot the rescue cd anyway
[02:55] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, well you could type which "nameofprogram"   that will show you where its installed at.
[02:55] <KingLear> it says gcc not found
[02:55] <Chm0d> chuckyp: yea iv actually installed what I think i need
[02:56] <Chm0d> thanks very much
[02:56] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, but try opening a terminal and just tyeping the name of the app.
[02:56] <Chm0d> for your time
[02:56] <sethk> KingLear, ok, at that prompt, type     hash -r
[02:56] <Seeker2599> ok
[02:56] <KingLear> sethk I can swear that i Hvae installed gcc-4.0
[02:56] <sethk> KingLear, then, at the same prompt, type     which gcc
[02:56] <KingLear> all packages came in the 6.06 cd
[02:56] <KingLear> :(
[02:56] <chuckyp> Chm0d, np I just found a post int he forums about quetoo also.
[02:56] <sethk> KingLear, yes, three times was enough  times to say you have gcc
[02:56] <jdolan> Chm0d, sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[02:56] <jmichaelx> are there any cups wizards in here? i am trying to configure this PC as a print server.... but when i 'lpq' from a client machine, i get 'no default destination available'. the machine with the printer is kubuntu edgy, the client machine is running kubuntu dapper (i hope it is ok to ask in this room!)
[02:56] <sethk> KingLear, try those two commands, at the _same_ shell prompt, and tell me what happens.
[02:56] <Chm0d> k thx jdolan
[02:57] <jdolan> seems to be several packages for ubuntu that have at one time or another provided those headers :-/
[02:57] <KingLear> I will have to DC, coz I am using a dual boot,
[02:57] <KingLear> sethk thanx aloyt for your help..
[02:57] <KingLear> alot*
[02:57] <sethk> KingLear, ok.  to do this rebooting between each step is going to be very painful.
[02:57] <mcphail> KingLear: no point rebooting to test the command
[02:57] <KingLear> so what shallI do?
[02:57] <sethk> mcphail, no, he means he's in windows
[02:58] <Chm0d> what do i need to install to build quetoo?
[02:58] <sethk> KingLear, no choice, really, but it will be painful.
[02:58] <KingLear> sethk :)
[02:58] <Squirrels> were are the themes for gnome located
[02:58] <rredd4> trying to remove slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb, when i type "apt-get remove slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb" it says it cannot find it.  I can go into /var/cache/apt/archives and find it via cd command, the package is broken.  how do i remove it?
[02:58] <Chm0d> oopd
[02:58] <Chm0d> LOL
[02:58] <jdolan> wrong window for the UP arrow? ;)
[02:58] <mcphail> sethk: yes - but booting back into ubuntu will open a new bash session, so no need for the hash -r
[02:58] <Chm0d> where is that post at chuckyp
[02:58] <chuckyp> rredd4, dpkg -r nameofdeb.deb
[02:58] <sethk> mcphail, oh, that's true, yes.
[02:58] <rredd4> ok
[02:58] <sethk> mcphail, but it won't hurt.  :)
[02:59] <mcphail> sethk: :)
[02:59] <Seeker2599> does anyone know of an avi splitter besides avidemux
[02:59] <Squirrels> were can i find the folders for the themes and colors for gnome?
[02:59] <BHSPitLappy> why would another one need to even exist, Seeker2599
[02:59] <KingLear> anyways, Guys, Thamx alot...
[02:59] <mick_> i am trying to run beryl on an ati 9800pro and i got everything installed seemingly correctly from the installation page of the wiki, but when i start up the xgl session alls i get is a white cube
[02:59] <mcphail> KingLear: have you tried "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?
[02:59] <Seeker2599> because mine wont install correctly!!
[02:59] <chuckyp> !xgl > mick_
[02:59] <chuckyp> mick_, xgl suport is in #ubuntu-sgl
[02:59] <chuckyp> mick_, err #ubuntu-xgl
[03:00] <KingLear> that darned modem is the only way I could be ableto do apt-get at all, sethk
[03:00] <KingLear> :(
[03:00] <cd32fan> hi
[03:00] <mick_> oops, thanks
[03:00] <Seeker2599> i have downloaded it 3 time and it wont show up
[03:00] <KingLear> what is build-essential sethk?
[03:00] <mcphail> KingLear: i think that build-essential and all the needed packages are on the cd
[03:00] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, did you try typing its name at terminal?  and where are you downloading it?
[03:00] <KingLear> yes, build-essential is there
[03:00] <Seeker2599> i downloaded it from the add remove thingy
[03:00] <Seeker2599> and yes i did
[03:01] <jmichaelx> is there a cups room?
[03:01] <cmatheson> what programs can view a multi-page tiff file?
[03:01] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, what happened when you typed avidemeux in terminal?
[03:01] <sethk> KingLear, build-essential is a meta package which includes the compiler and make and other build tools.  But I didn't say that, someone else did.
[03:01] <mcphail> KingLear: if you install that package, it will install several packages needed for compilation
[03:01] <jmichaelx> or ubuntu cups? :-D
[03:01] <Seeker2599> bash: command not found
[03:01] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install avidemux
[03:01] <KingLear> oh mcphail, sorry, I couldnt note that it was you, so I try installing that now?
[03:01] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, then see if its there.
[03:02] <Seeker2599> ok
[03:02] <sethk> KingLear, not if you already installed it.
[03:02] <KingLear> will it also solve the dpendency problem between libstdc6 and g++?
[03:02] <sethk> KingLear, which is it?  either you installed it, or you didn't.
[03:02] <KingLear> I didnt
[03:02] <mcphail> KingLear: if you have not installed it already, then install it now
[03:02] <sethk> KingLear, there isn't a dependency _problem_
[03:02] <sethk> KingLear, what did you see that makes you think there is a dependency problem?
[03:03] <KingLear> sethk I thought I shouldnt mess around with the packages I dont know about, sethk
[03:03] <KingLear> :(
[03:03] <rredd4> chuckyp  typed dpkg -r  slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb  got this error:  dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[03:03] <sethk> KingLear, well, ok, but having a dependency isn't a problem.
[03:03] <AsheD> is it possible to change the name that Ubuntu appends to linked files?
[03:03] <KingLear> becuase installing either of libstdc6 and g++ says that the other package is not present
[03:03] <sethk> AsheD, hm?  there is nothing appended to a linked file.
[03:03] <mcphail> KingLear: are you installing with dpkg or apt-get? You need to use apt-get
[03:04] <Seeker2599> it says: avidemux is already the newest version
[03:04] <sethk> KingLear, do you mean you can't install?
[03:04] <imperfect-> Anyone here know how I can get lilo installed using a live cd?
[03:04] <KingLear> Yes
[03:04] <AsheD> when I create a link, it creates a new file called "link to <filename>", can I edit that?
[03:04] <sethk> KingLear, try doing what mcphail suggested:    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:04] <KingLear> Okay
[03:04] <KingLear> I will do that
[03:04] <KingLear> sethk since I have only this option left with right now..
[03:04] <KingLear> build-essential is in CD
[03:05] <KingLear> and will try that
[03:05] <KingLear> Thanx anyway
[03:05] <KingLear> I will try to save the out put for future refrence..
[03:05] <KingLear> :(
[03:05] <Seeker2599>  it says: avidemux is already the newest version, now what?
[03:05] <KingLear> Bye all... sethk, mcphail, Thanx
[03:06] <rredd4> typed dpkg -r  slocate_3.0.beta.r3-1_i386.deb  got this error:  dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[03:06] <Squirrels> how do i run a .rpm
[03:06] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, now type in avidemux
[03:06] <sethk> Squirrels, you don't.
[03:06] <chuckyp> !alien > Squirrels
[03:07] <sethk> Squirrels, a .rpm is an install file for the RPM package manager
[03:07] <chuckyp> Squirrels, what program are you trying to install?
[03:07] <sethk> Squirrels, you can possibly use it with alien, but this is very dangerous
[03:07] <Seeker2599> bash: avidemux: command not found
[03:07] <sethk> Squirrels, you should find an install for ubuntu if at all possible
[03:07] <anthonyc> mister patrick volkerding uses an rpm spec file to compile mozilla
[03:07] <sethk> Seeker2599, you can say that a few hundred more times, it says nothing.
[03:07] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, hold on let me check something
[03:07] <sethk> Seeker2599, you can search for the file.  if, in fact, that is a program name.
[03:08] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, what is the response of which avidemux
[03:08] <rredd4> chuckyp  dpkg -r ....  did not work  says i need to specify package by its own name, not the name of the file...  ??
[03:09] <chuckyp> rredd4, dpkg -r slocate
[03:09] <chuckyp> rredd4, dunno why you want to remove that though.
[03:09] <rredd4> its broken
[03:09] <sethk> there is no such file as avidemux, unless it is very new.
[03:09] <chuckyp> rredd4, did you try apt-get reinstall slocate
[03:09] <rredd4> no
[03:09] <rredd4> i will
[03:09] <chuckyp> sethk, Its int he repos
[03:09] <chuckyp> !info avidemux
[03:10] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2607 kB, installed size 6756 kB
[03:10] <sethk> chuckyp, ok.
[03:10] <sethk> chuckyp, he downloaded a package file from somewhere?
[03:10] <Seeker2599> i got it from the add/remove thing
[03:10] <sethk> chuckyp, no, according to that info you just provoked, it is indeed in the repositories
[03:10] <chuckyp> sethk, he installed from repos but now he can't figure out how to run it.
[03:10] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, what did which avidemux      say?
[03:10] <Seeker2599> it doesnt show up
[03:11] <sethk> Seeker2599, do a find for it.      Or, run sudo updatedb,  then do a locate for it.
[03:11] <tsoler> emerald are u here?
[03:11] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, "which avidemux"   no quotes in terminal
[03:12] <Seeker2599> it doesnt say anything
[03:12] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, it just went back to prompt?
[03:12] <sethk> Seeker2599, not possible
[03:12] <Seeker2599> yes
[03:12] <sethk> Seeker2599, it can say "avidemux not found"
[03:12] <sethk> Seeker2599, but it can't do nothing.
[03:12] <Seeker2599> it didnt say anything
[03:12] <mcphail> sethk: not true
[03:12] <sethk> mcphail, sure it's true, I just tried it.
[03:12] <rredd4> chuckyp  dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove slocate which isn't installed.    also got this   apt-get reinstall slocate    E: Invalid operation reinstall
[03:12] <mcphail> sethk: so did i
[03:13] <leetcharmer> if I want to select all files that end in .avi in a folder w/ nautilus -- how do I do that?
[03:13] <sethk> mcphail, oh, you are using a broken bash, sorry
[03:13] <chuckyp> rredd4, sudo aptitude reinstall slocate
[03:13] <sethk> mcphail, I forget that bug.
[03:13] <mcphail> sethk: he was responding to the "which avidemux", not your suggestion for find or locate
[03:13] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, hold on let me try installing it and seeing what the deal is.
[03:13] <nukeslion> i cant find w32codecs, but im pretty sure my repositories are working right, is there a trick to getting them? (trying to get amarok to play mp3s)
[03:13] <sethk> mcphail, yes, of course, I understand that
[03:14] <Seeker2599> where do i find the files downloaded through add/remove?
[03:14] <sethk> mcphail, I don't use the shell which says nothing at all for a failed which (which is a bug, if you'll excuse the expression  :)   )
[03:14] <sethk> Seeker2599, there is no specific answer, files get installed to lots of places
[03:14] <Seeker2599> ok
[03:14] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, it downloaded a .deb file in apts cache
[03:14] <anthonyc> leetcharmer, you would add *.avi to the end of your command
[03:14] <sethk> Seeker2599, do this:   find / -name avidemux
[03:14] <rredd4> chuckyp  what is   Score is -21?
[03:14] <sethk> Seeker2599, as root
[03:14] <mcphail> sethk: aah. OK. I don't recall bash ever responding to which if the file wasn't present, but that is maybe my bad memory...
[03:14] <leetcharmer> where do I type that in?
[03:14] <noiesmo> nukeslion, for amarok and mp3 i did this sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs and used xine engine in amarok
[03:15] <chuckyp> rredd4, there are dependancy problems aparently if you read the full message?  Why do you assume that slocate is broken?
[03:15] <AsheD> when I create a link to a file, it creates a new file called "link to <filename>", can I edit that?
[03:15] <nukeslion> noiesmo, alright, i shall try that
[03:15] <sethk> mcphail, no, I don't mean that bash ever didn't have the bug, I meant that I don't use bash because it's broken in a number of ways, including that one.
[03:15] <mcphail> sethk: :)
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: Edit how?
[03:15] <mcphail> sethk: ksh?
[03:15] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, I just installed it and it works fine  It installs in the menus under Applications > Sound & Video > avidemux
[03:15] <Seeker2599> its not there for me
[03:15] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, also launching it from terminal works
[03:15] <nukeslion> noiesmo, Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:15] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: like to change the text it adds, or remove it, so its just the same as the file name
[03:16] <ArrenLex> !libxine-extracodecs
[03:16] <rredd4> chuckyp  because when i go to synaptic and click on fix broken package, it hangs on slocate
[03:16] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[03:16] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, well sudo apt-get --purge avidemux   then sudo apt-get install avi-demux
[03:16] <jaimiedrolet> anyone can tell me what those errors mean?
[03:16] <jaimiedrolet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27730/
[03:16] <jewbilee> would someone mind giving me a step by step install of Flash
[03:16] <chuckyp> rredd4, well what does the screen say about it?
[03:16] <jewbilee> i cant get it working
[03:16] <chuckyp> !flash > jewbilee
[03:16] <noiesmo> nukeslion, works for me note > Enable the lines which end with 'dapper universe' and 'dapper multiverse'
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: Is it in the right-click properties perhaps?
[03:17] <chuckyp> jewbilee, what version are you trying to install?
[03:17] <leetcharmer> anthonyc, where would I type that?
[03:17] <noiesmo> jewbilee, I download latest flash 9 from abode this morning then extract it and read the txt file it comes with easy to install
[03:17] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: no?  at least I don't see anything pertaining to that
[03:17] <bazz> i'm trying to get samba running on dapper, i've got it installed and running and i've shared a folder, but when i try to connect from my windows machine it gives me a password prompt and nothing seems to log in successfully.  (i've tried my user account and the root account)
[03:17] <sethk> jaimiedrolet, if the thing still runs, you can ignore those errors
[03:17] <chuckyp> !samba > bazz
[03:17] <sethk> jaimiedrolet, the program is looking for things that don't exist on your box, but that doesn't mean that there is a problem.
[03:18] <bazz> chuckyp: thanks, i'll ready that
[03:18] <cd32fan> can anyone tell me the name of a program that streams radio for ubuntu?
[03:18] <Seeker2599> when i try to purge it says E: invalid operation avidemux
[03:18] <chuckyp> cd32fan, like fm radio?
[03:18] <cd32fan> yea
[03:18] <noiesmo> jewbilee, heres link http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[03:18] <cd32fan> something like that
[03:18] <chuckyp> cd32fan, did you try doing a search with synaptic for fm??
[03:18] <rredd4> cd32fan  streamtuner
[03:18] <mick__> !xgl  > mick__
[03:19] <cd32fan> hey that was fast
[03:19] <cd32fan> thanks ;)
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: Works here...what do you see?
[03:19] <rredd4> cd32fan  i use it, needs xmms to hear it
[03:19] <Seeker2599> anyone know of another avi splitter besides avidemux
[03:19] <chuckyp> jewbilee, download that extract and put it in your /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[03:20] <fatsheep> quick q...  in open office when I try to select text with the mouse a lot of times it will only move the cursor, is there a way to get rid of this behaviour?
[03:20] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: I have no problem *creating* the link, I just wanted to know if I can change the default text added to the link name
[03:20] <chuckyp> jewbilee, restart firefox and flash will be working.
[03:20] <sethk> Seeker2599, no, sorry, I'm not really up on those apps.   google doesn't help you?
[03:20] <cd32fan> rredd4: i'll try it
[03:20] <Seeker2599> no
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: You mean the name that shows up in nautilus / on the desktop, right?
[03:20] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: yes
[03:20] <rredd4> cd32fan  its not bad
[03:20] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: I know its possible in windows, so I think it would be in Linux as well
[03:20] <bod_> what do i have to install to see java content in firefox
[03:20] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, did you try removing like I told you and reinstall it?  Because I can confirm that it works here.
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: And if you right click on the file, and select properties, what do you see?
[03:21] <chuckyp> !java > bod_
[03:21] <cd32fan> there's just one thing i still havent managed to install in Ubuntu
[03:21] <cd32fan> the graphic drivers
[03:21] <chuckyp> cd32fan, what type of card?
[03:21] <keithhhh> can someone tell me how to run a .jar file?
[03:21] <Seeker2599> when i try to purge it says E: invalid operation avidemux
[03:21] <chuckyp> !java > keithhhh
[03:21] <ArrenLex> keithhhh: do you have java insatlled
[03:21] <ArrenLex> ?
[03:21] <cd32fan> chuckyp: the ATI drivers
[03:21] <ArrenLex> installed **
[03:22] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, well apt-get remove avidemux
[03:22] <chuckyp> !ati > cd32fan
[03:22] <jewbilee> can anyone help me?  im at gnashs website and i can find the download link ^^;;
[03:22] <cd32fan> chuckyp: 9600 series
[03:22] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: I seem info about the file, but nothing pertaining to links, unless you are referring to the link file itself, then I can see its name, location, what it links to, etc, but that still doesn't answer my question
[03:22] <chuckyp> jewbilee, ahh you want to install gnash.   I think they use cvs.
[03:22] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading
[03:22] <jewbilee> ...?
[03:22] <jewbilee> uhhh
[03:22] <chuckyp> jewbilee, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading
[03:23] <jewbilee> hmmm
[03:23] <chuckyp> ArrenLex, argh you beet me.
[03:23] <jewbilee> gimme a sec
[03:23] <jewbilee> ill probably be back with another question
[03:23] <joevandyk> I've got a Dell laptop with an extra VGA thing in the back of it.  How do I get that to work with ubuntu?
[03:23] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: you're going to have to use cvs to get gnash.
[03:23] <chuckyp> jewbilee, well you have two choices basically gnash or adobes version of flash.
[03:23] <nukeslion> noiesmo, thanks, its working ^__^ <3
[03:23] <ArrenLex> jwebilee: I warn you gnash is of little interest to anyone but developers right now.
[03:23] <chuckyp> joevandyk, plug a monitor in to it.
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: And the name is "link to whatever", right?
[03:23] <noiesmo> nukeslion, np :)
[03:23] <joevandyk> chuckyp: don't I need to modify xorg.conf?
[03:23] <mcruz> hello
[03:23] <AsheD> tonyyarusso:: yes, and my question was how to change the default, so I don't have to manually change it each time
[03:24] <jewbilee> ArrenLex: what would you recommend?
[03:24] <mcruz> any script-people here??
[03:24] <Seeker2599> ok it removed it now how do i get it again lol
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: Ah, I see now.
[03:24] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: to watch flash movies, only the official adobe plugin is useable right now.
[03:24] <chuckyp> joevandyk, you can't do a dual display if thats what you are asking.  I believe on most laptops its either using that or the screen?
[03:24] <chuckyp> joevandyk, and that is controlled usually by a function key or in the bios.
[03:24] <jewbilee> ArrenLex: how do i get that to work?
[03:24] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: by downloading it and putting the library into ~/.mozilla.plugins
[03:24] <ArrenLex>  ~/.mozilla/plugins **
[03:25] <jewbilee> use Synaptics?
[03:25] <jewbilee> or from their website
[03:25] <tsoler> emerald
[03:25] <chuckyp> ArrenLex, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  would be better because that would be a system wide change instead of for just his user.
[03:25] <jewbilee> im still confused as to how to botain it
[03:25] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: if you're fine with Flash 7, you can use synaptic. If you want Flash 9, you'll have to download it from the adobe website.
[03:25] <jewbilee> obtain*
[03:25] <CientificoLoco> hello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?
[03:25] <CientificoLoco> hello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?
[03:26] <CientificoLoco> hello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?
[03:26] <chuckyp> jewbilee, http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[03:26] <CientificoLoco> hello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?
[03:26] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: just download this file to ~/.mozilla/plugins : http://arrenlex.diff.be/libflashplayer.so
[03:27] <totall_6_7> CientificoLoco: if someone has an answer they will answer there is no need to flood the room
[03:27] <ArrenLex> !repeat > CientificoLoco
[03:27] <jewbilee> thanks chuckyp, ill let you know how it goes
[03:27] <jester45> i have 2 questions the first is do you need power management if your on a desktop and the second is if i have a video card and an integrated one can i use both ? will they have the same display? diffrent? same but the integrated slower?
[03:27] <CientificoLoco> hello every body I wanna know how can I to rip cd's into mp3 with juicer?
[03:27] <chuckyp> CientificoLoco, stop flooding
[03:27] <jester45> CientificoLoco: you could use ripperx
[03:28] <chuckyp> !patience > CientificoLoco
[03:28] <jewbilee> chuckup: how do i install the downloaded tar.gz file?
[03:28] <chuckyp> jester45, you could use both if you have 2 montors sure
[03:28] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: just download this file to ~/.mozilla/plugins : http://arrenlex.diff.be/libflashplayer.so
[03:28] <foo1911> hi guys I've got a question, I'm currently running Ubuntu 5.1, is it safe and will it work as good as a clean install of 6.x if I update it with the update manager?
[03:28] <coldsoul> hi! examinig my syslogs I found an error: Oct 22 03:25:38 localhost kernel: [17185098.328000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking pcie memory !
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> AsheD: I'm going to guess that you can do it by adding a key under apps > nautilus > preferences in gconf, I'm just not sure what the key should be.
[03:28] <coldsoul> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:29] <jewbilee> Arren: is that flash 9?
[03:29] <chuckyp> foo1911, it should but I would backup any data that is important first.
[03:29] <jester45> chuckyp: what will happen
[03:29] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: yes it is.
[03:29] <john053> how difficult to load ubuntu along with xp?
[03:29] <Seeker2599> w00t!!!
[03:29] <foo1911> thanks :)
[03:29] <jewbilee> Arren: alright, ill ask for help if i need it when the download it finished
[03:29] <foo1911> john053, not at all difficult if you're using VMware imo
[03:29] <Seeker2599> it worked!!!
[03:30] <poningru> ColdFyre: whats wrong?
[03:30] <chuckyp> jester45, Well you could span your desktop over two monitors or you could clone the desktop so that both display the same?  Its up to you?
[03:30] <Seeker2599> ty for everyones help!
[03:30] <poningru> oh
[03:30] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, what'd you have to do?
[03:30] <jester45> chuckyp: so i could have cube on the newer card and as irc on the older
[03:30] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, to get it working.
[03:30] <chuckyp> jester45, cube?
[03:30] <Seeker2599> i used apt-get to remove it then i reinstalled
[03:31] <jester45> chuckyp: its a fps
[03:31] <Seeker2599> it wasnt working when i used the add/remove thingy
[03:31] <chuckyp> Seeker2599, cool yeah I don't know why it got messed up.
[03:31] <chuckyp> jester45, yes you could do that.
[03:31] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know of a really good GUI newsleecher program?
[03:31] <quintin> What do I put in /etc/sudoers to not have a password
[03:31] <Seeker2599> thanks chuckyp
[03:32] <sethk> quintin, there is a NOPASSWD modifier
[03:32] <coldsoul> hi! examinig my syslogs I found an error: Oct 22 03:25:38 localhost kernel: [17185098.328000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking pcie memory !
[03:32] <chuckyp> jester45, do people actually play cube?
[03:32] <coldsoul> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:32] <jester45> chuckyp: well its cube2 now
[03:32] <sethk> coldsoul, that doesn't mean much, except that the fglrx coders are very sloppy
[03:32] <chuckyp> jester45, is it online?
[03:33] <jester45> chuckyp: yes it has ingame map making
[03:33] <coldsoul> sethk: is this a problem? I mean the error..
[03:33] <chuckyp> jester45, no I mean online multiplayer
[03:33] <sethk> coldsoul, unlikely to be a problem.
[03:33] <poningru> coldsoul: not sure pcie is supported under the kernel yet
[03:33] <poningru> I know its experimental in gentoo
[03:33] <quintin> sethk: I'm aware.  Where do I put it.
[03:33] <coldsoul> thanks guys..
[03:33] <jester45> chuckyp: you fly around the map adding stuff its also very small on requirements i get about 130 fps
[03:34] <coldsoul> I hope it will be ok in the new ubuntu version
[03:34] <jester45> chuckyp: yes people play online
[03:34] <sethk> quintin, on the line for the user you want to modify
[03:34] <AsheD> is there a way to search inside files?
[03:34] <chuckyp> jester45, I'll have to check it out.
[03:34] <cd32fan> what are the best games for ubuntu?
[03:34] <sethk> quintin, after the install, you should have at least one example of it in the sudoers file
[03:34] <quintin> sethk: syntax error.  I have no users, only root.  you're gonna have to hold my hand here, as new way is pam and that's all I know :P
[03:35] <jester45> cd32fan: what kind of games
[03:35] <sethk> quintin, root is a user
[03:35] <quintin> sethk: NOPASSWD on that line sez syntax error
[03:35] <sethk> quintin, and root should already be in the sudoers file.  if it isn't, the line is:
[03:35] <cd32fan> adventure,rpg
[03:35] <sethk> quintin, yes, you have to put it in the right place.  hold on:
[03:35] <cd32fan> jester45:games like that
[03:35] <sethk> quintin,     root       ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL
[03:36] <quintin> sethk: think I got it... (...ALL,NOPASSWD...) didn't give syntact error...
[03:36] <quintin> sethk: oh hmmmmmm ok
[03:36] <bsdjunkie> %wheel ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL
[03:36] <quintin> sethk: know offhand what 'forget password' command to sudo is so I can test
[03:36] <jewbilee> Arren: in the /.mozilla/ folder
[03:36] <cd32fan> jester45:are there any?
[03:36] <jewbilee> there isnt a plugin folder
[03:36] <jester45> cd32fan: i dont know of any games you can try www.hardwareforums.com and look inside the linux/non-MS forums
[03:36] <bod_> where do i put libflashplayer.so
[03:36] <jester45> cd32fan: there is a sticky for linux games
[03:37] <jewbilee> yea, same questions as bod_, where does libflashplayer.so go?
[03:37] <cd32fan> sticky?
[03:37] <sethk> quintin, any command
[03:37] <jester45> cd32fan: a forums post that cant be deleted
[03:37] <bod_> ArrenLex: libflashplayer.so wheres it go
[03:37] <cd32fan> jester45: got it
[03:37] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: you can try installing it for all users in the system by putting it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[03:37] <jester45> cd32fan: i will be at the top of the linux section
[03:38] <jewbilee> says i dont have permission to write
[03:38] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: you'll have to use sudo to write there.
[03:38] <jewbilee> ?
[03:38] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: where is the file now?
[03:38] <jewbilee> how do you do that
[03:38] <ArrenLex> By magic.
[03:38] <jewbilee> desktop
[03:38] <ArrenLex> Jewbilee: do you know how to open a terminal?
[03:38] <jewbilee> yea
[03:38] <jester45> jewbilee: type sudo thunar
[03:39] <jester45> jewbilee: if thats what you use
[03:39] <ArrenLex> Jewbilee: do you know how to find your desktop from the terminal?
[03:39] <ala-van> i am trying to mount an external usb drive... i used sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/myusb but that would only give root permission to use.  how can i can permission for everyone to use it?
[03:39] <jewbilee> yea
[03:39] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: open a terminal. Find your desktop.
[03:39] <sethk> ala-van, depends on the file system.  look at the uid= and gid= options for mount.
[03:39] <jewbilee> ok
[03:39] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: then, run this command: "sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/"
[03:39] <jewbilee> im there
[03:39] <ala-van> it is ext3
[03:39] <jewbilee> ahh
[03:39] <jewbilee> ok
[03:39] <jewbilee> nice
[03:39] <jester45> ArrenLex: you could give the file manager (i think) sudo rights so you could drag drop the file
[03:39] <jewbilee> lets see if it worked
[03:40] <jewbilee> hmm
[03:40] <jewbilee> youtube still says i dont have flashplayer
[03:40] <Jared> I know this is a stupid question, but how do you get the tracan icon on your desktop
[03:40] <Jared> trashcan*
[03:40] <ArrenLex> jester: yes. But I think that would confuse him more.
[03:40] <ArrenLex> Jewbilee: restart firefox.
[03:40] <ala-van> i just want to use it as a regular disk drive with no root access
[03:40] <jewbilee> i did
[03:41] <sethk> ala-van, if it's ext3, you can change the permissions and/or ownership.
[03:41] <jester45> jared no such thing
[03:41] <sethk> ala-van, use    chown -R         or chmod -R
[03:41] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: browse to about:plugins in firefox. Copy all that information and paste it to pastebin. Give me the link.
[03:41] <jester45> i think
[03:41] <quilzo> anyone which packages I should download to set-up a lisp-environment ?
[03:41] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[03:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:41] <yipe> how can I change which version of java I'm using? I have sun java installed but blackdown is the default
[03:41] <Jared> jester45, i had it before i reinstalled
[03:42] <jewbilee> oh wait
[03:42] <jewbilee> i got it
[03:42] <jester45> Jared: i guess there is one
[03:42] <ala-van> is this right ? sudo chmod go+x /media/myusb
[03:42] <jewbilee> i needed to sudo it into the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins folder
[03:42] <jewbilee> not mozilla
[03:42] <ArrenLex> I see.
[03:42] <ArrenLex> Weird.
[03:42] <ArrenLex> Well, as long as it works.
[03:42] <jewbilee> yup
[03:42] <AsheD> anybody know how to edit the default "link to " text that creating a link to a file adds to the filename?
[03:42] <jewbilee> would you mind explaining the folder layout for me Arren
[03:42] <jester45> ArrenLex: just tell him to use sudo file manager
[03:42] <jewbilee> like.. /usr/
[03:43] <jewbilee> and /lib and stuff
[03:43] <sethk> ala-van, if you only want users to be able to see the names, but not access the files
[03:43] <jewbilee> im new to linux, dont understand the file system yet
[03:43] <yipe> how do you change which version of java you're using?
[03:43] <cafuego> jewbilee: /lib, /bin and /sbin for system stuff
[03:43] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: in windows, all physical divisions (a different drive, a different partition) is also a logical partition (a c: drive, a d: drive, etc). Yes?
[03:43] <clusty> is there a ubuntu libcss package?
[03:43] <cafuego> jewbilee: /usr/* for userspace stuff
[03:43] <ala-van> sethk:  then how to give them read right?
[03:43] <jewbilee> yea
[03:43] <ArrenLex> logical partition -> logical division
[03:43] <jewbilee> yup
[03:44] <jewbilee> ok
[03:44] <cafuego> jewbilee: /var for files that change (logs, cache, etc)
[03:44] <sethk> ala-van, (with the thing mounted):   chmod -R g+r /whatever/usb
[03:44] <cafuego> jewbilee: /home/* for each user, /root  is home for root user.
[03:44] <sethk> ala-van, the g is for group, is that what you meant?
[03:44] <JDStone> anyone have smartmontools working on Ubuntu with SATA drives?
[03:44] <sethk> ala-van, a+r is give read to all
[03:44] <cafuego> JDStone: mine work fine
[03:44] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: on Linux, there are no logical divisions. There is a filesystem that looks like a tree. The trunk of this tree is the start of the filesystem, the folder "/". There is nothing higher than this folder. Everything is inside this folder. It is the "root" of the system.
[03:44] <jewbilee> alright
[03:45] <yipe> so um, changing the default java?
[03:45] <cafuego> jewbilee: The real reason this stuff is separated out under / is so it can be put on seperate partitions and/or disks.
[03:45] <ArrenLex> Inside this folder are other folders. /bin stores important system binaries. /etc stores important system configurations. /lib stores important system libaries.
[03:45] <Hydra> is there a manual installation procedure somewhere that i can read for edgyeft ?
[03:46] <cd32fan> jester45: very nice forum
[03:46] <clusty> how can i get encrypted DVD playing support for ubuntu?
[03:46] <ArrenLex> There is also a folder called /usr. This stores less important files -- files the user will use. There is a /usr/bin folder, where almost all your binaries are. There is a /usr/lib folder, where all the libraries they need are.
[03:46] <balayhashi> any one here knows anything about vlc and subtitles with accentuated characters in ubuntu? I know that ubuntu open's save's all files in UTF-8 , but that doesn't mean that the program's I run in it does the same right?
[03:46] <cd32fan> http://www.hardwareforums.com/essential-linux-n-bs-14720/
[03:46] <jewbilee> is a program like firefox considered a library?
[03:46] <ArrenLex> There is also a /home folder. Inside this folder is a folder for each user. This is where all the stuff that belongs to you goes.
[03:46] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: no, a binary.
[03:46] <jewbilee> ok
[03:46] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: library = like .dll. Binary = like .exe.
[03:47] <jewbilee> ahhhh
[03:47] <jewbilee> ok
[03:47] <jewbilee> so the actuall firefox binary is seperated from its libraries?
[03:47] <yipe> jewbilee run "man hier" in a terminal and it will explain everything
[03:47] <ala-van> what i want is that i can mount the usb drive, and then let everyone who uses my computer read and write to it, without going root.  everyone has their own account
[03:47] <poningru> jewbilee: what are you trying to do?
[03:47] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: /tmp is the temporary folder. Every time you restart your computer, this gets wiped clean. Programs and users put temporary files here if they need to.
[03:48] <okapi> hello to all
[03:48] <jewbilee> poningru: learning about the filersystem
[03:48] <poningru> just trying to learn?
[03:48] <poningru> cool
[03:48] <sethk> ala-van, then do:   chmod -R a+rwx /mnt/whatever
[03:48] <yipe> please, this is driving me mad, how do you change your java version?
[03:48] <poningru> thats always teh best
[03:48] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: every folder and file has "permissions" which tell Linux who is and who is not allowed to read\write\execute it.
[03:48] <okapi> I have a problem with samba and swat. Anyone can help?
[03:48] <poningru> !alternative
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <poningru> !java
[03:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:48] <sethk> ala-van, that will give the entire tree read, write, execute for all.  that's normally not a great idea, but as long as you know the issues it's ok.
[03:48] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: by default: a regular user can write only to his home directory and to /tmp. He can read almost everything else.
[03:48] <colin_> How can I change the login screen between the Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu screens?
[03:48] <JDStone> !Multiverse
[03:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:49] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: this is safe. If a user downloads a virus, or if he accidentally runs a command to delete everything, or something like that, it will only affect his files, not hose the system.
[03:49] <JDStone> !easysource
[03:49] <bod_> yipe: did you uninstall the ver you have and then install the ver you want
[03:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:49] <yipe> no, I already have sun java and blackdown java installed
[03:49] <jewbilee> ok
[03:49] <yipe> I just need to change the default version
[03:49] <jewbilee> but sudo i guess gives temporary root status
[03:49] <poningru> yipe:   update-java-alternatives -l
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> !upgrade
[03:49] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> !distupgrade
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <_ph00> what is vmnet? I never saw this before: Firestarter shows two vmnet connection, vmnet1 and vmnet8, both inactive, and I'm getting a lot of connections attempt on port 16058 UDP, blocked by iptables as firestarter shows: I'm not running any p2p app ATM, and I'm behind a NAT
[03:50] <Ropechoborra> !distroupgrade > Ropechoborra
[03:50] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: if you need to install a program, obviously you're going to have to put files in places other than a home directory. For this, you need to be "root" user. The root user can do ANYTHING. That's why you should never use a root account as your main account. If you screw something up, it's very very bad.
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distroupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <mcphail> _ph00: i presume you have installed vmware?
[03:50] <_ph00> I have just finished installing Ubuntu, btw, I switched back after trying another couple od dostros
[03:50] <okapi> Samba error 102
[03:50] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: ubuntu uses "sudo" to give you temporary root status, yes, when you need it. That's why all your commands for installing programs and things need root.
[03:50] <jewbilee> ok
[03:51] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: external devices, too, are not seen as their own drives, but are mounted into the filesystem tree. For example, your CDROM can usually be found at /mnt/cdrom.
[03:51] <ala-van> sethk:  thats what i need for now.  thanks a bunch, it worked like a charm :)
[03:51] <okapi> Anyone can help about samba generate status 102?
[03:51] <jewbilee> ok
[03:51] <sethk> ala-van, np
[03:51] <ArrenLex>  /mnt is the folder where external devices are usually mounted. But you can mount them anywhere you want to.
[03:51] <ArrenLex> Sorry, I lie. /media is that folder.
[03:51] <jewbilee> haha
[03:51] <jewbilee> ok
[03:51] <_ph00> mcphail, well, OK then it's normal. I don't know exactly what wmware does but I heard ythat name many times, so I thought I should try iot out. Well, I know one thing now, it creates a couple of connections
[03:52] <colin_> I installed the xubuntu-desktop package, and then removed it, but the login screen is still for Xubuntu.  How do I get it back to the normal Ubuntu screen?
[03:52] <mcphail> _ph00: yes. Don't worry about them
[03:52] <_ph00> and what are all those connection attempts on 16058?
[03:52] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: that was a basic guide. For more information about all this, now that you know how to look at it, try typing "man hier" to read information about the file hierarchy.
[03:52] <jewbilee> alright
[03:52] <jewbilee> thanks a lot
[03:52] <jewbilee> that really helps
[03:52] <jmitchj> hey, i tried to instal fglrx drivers and i can't get into ubuntu anymore...can i restore to the previous state of the system in Recovery mode?
[03:53] <_ph00> ok mcphail, thx
[03:53] <ArrenLex> jewbilee: note that Linux is case sensitive.. in windows, FIREFOX.EXE and firefox.exe are the same file. On Linux, they are different.
[03:53] <jewbilee> alright
[03:53] <jewbilee> thanks
[03:53] <_ph00> what about all those connection attempts on 16058? are those also related to vmware?
[03:53] <AsheD> bleh, can't find anything on this
[03:54] <Em3rald> jmitchj:  If you made a backup copy of your xorg.conf file, yes.
[03:54] <okapi> Anyone know something about status 102 generate by Samba?
[03:54] <Em3rald> oop ... gotta go ... back in a few
[03:54] <mcphail> _ph00: no idea. sorry
[03:54] <_ph00> k
[03:54] <jmitchj> Em3rald: is it possible that it made a backup as i was going through?
[03:55] <Seeker2599> anyone here use avidemux?
[03:56] <hikenboot> anyone know why in ubuntu i am unable to get direct rendering on my nvidia video card working. It seems to be a rights issue. When I log into the console as  root and startx direct rendering is enabled but not as a normal user...any ideas?
[03:56] <hikenboot> normal user thru gdm that is
[03:57] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I can fix a GRUB 21 error?
[03:59] <sethk> imperfect-, I think that's a config file syntax error
[03:59] <sethk> imperfect-, no
[03:59] <sethk> imperfect-, it's selected disk does not exist
[03:59] <sethk> imperfect-, which is a config file error, but not a synatx error
[03:59] <imperfect-> sethk: It's GRUB not being able to find the device... the only solution is to get lilo installed and I can't seem to get a image to work
[04:00] <imperfect-> sethk: It's not a config file error in this case.
[04:00] <sethk> imperfect-, did you check your grub device table?
[04:00] <nocotigo> anyone know how to get a sata dvd burner working?
[04:00] <imperfect-> sethk: this is a known issue with my hardware. ;)
[04:00] <Seeker2599> does anyone here use  avidemux
[04:00] <imperfect-> sethk: P965 Based devices.. justtrying to figure out how to get from LiveCD install -> lilo install
[04:01] <sethk> imperfect-, I was talking about getting grub to work, not lilo
[04:01] <sethk> imperfect-, did you check your grub device map?
[04:01] <imperfect-> sethk: Grub has issues with this chipset.
[04:01] <imperfect-> sethk: the solution according to the forums is to get lilo installed
[04:02] <hobbs> How do I mount my NTFS drive as read only
[04:02] <sethk> imperfect-, ok, if you don't want to try to fix it, then use lilo I guess
[04:02] <nocotigo> hobbs, wont it be read-only as long as you aren't using captive?
[04:02] <hobbs> uh
[04:02] <hobbs> I don't know
[04:02] <bod_>   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[04:02] <nocotigo> hobbs: it should be read-only anyway
[04:02] <hobbs> thank you bod_
[04:03] <bod_> np
[04:03] <imperfect-> sethk: Good god.
[04:03] <imperfect-> sethk: The forums say GRUB has issues with this chipset.
[04:03] <sethk> imperfect-, yes, I'm not deaf, the forums are wrong
[04:03] <Seeker2599> does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?
[04:03] <sethk> imperfect-, plus, you said lilo isn't working for you, so I thought we would try to fix grub
[04:03] <imperfect-> sethk: Well I'm at a loss cuz it just said GRUb loading stage 1.5 and error 21
[04:04] <imperfect-> sethk: lilo works fine when I can get it to install.. but from a live cd install i can't get lilo
[04:04] <imperfect-> sethk: from an alternate i got lilo installed and it was all good
[04:04] <imperfect-> sethk: but the alternate install was all fucked up
[04:04] <Quash> I'm having an install problem with 6.10 RC.  Is this the place to get suggestions?
[04:04] <sethk> imperfect-, what do you mean by "can't get lilo"?
[04:04] <florian> hi
[04:04] <nocotigo> Quash: what's the install problem
[04:05] <sethk> imperfect-, and as I said the forums are wrong about grub, they don't understand the issues.
[04:05] <imperfect-> sethk: apt-get doesn't have lilo. and when I chroot into the environment I can't get my netowrk drivers installed etc etc
[04:05] <Quash> Everyone is fine until the GDM login, when screen goes blank.
[04:05] <nocotigo> Quash: booting from the livecd?
[04:05] <sethk> imperfect-, I'm not sure what you mean by "apt-get doesn't have lilo".  there is a lilo package
[04:06] <imperfect-> jesus god.
[04:06] <imperfect-> it's not on the install cd
[04:06] <Quash> Yes, the 386 RC cd.
[04:06] <imperfect-> and i dont have network access
[04:06] <sethk> imperfect-, well, obviously I'm annoying you somehow, so I'll stop
[04:06] <nocotigo> Quash: what's your video card
[04:06] <imperfect-> IUt's not you
[04:06] <imperfect-> I'm just frustraed
[04:06] <Quash> ATI Radeon 9200SE
[04:06] <imperfect-> because i've had this box over a month and i have to use windows
[04:06] <imperfect-> ;)
[04:06] <nocotigo> imperfect-: i'm about to do the same thing because of the dvd burner i bought
[04:06] <andycker> how are you
[04:06] <nocotigo> :(
[04:06] <sethk> imperfect-, yes, I know, but perhaps, since I know how to make it work, and you don't, you shouldn't be insulting me and telling me what the forums say.
[04:07] <Quash> Here's the thread on ubuntuforums I started. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281111
[04:07] <imperfect-> sethk: what you are not grasping is that there is no way for me to edit anything with grub  because there's not even a way for me to get a grub boot prompt
[04:07] <Jared> I tried to install the frostwire .deb package and i got this jared@jared-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[04:07] <Jared> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 21 21:41:22 2006
[04:07] <bkudria> i'm trying to install a new versiopn of alsa as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto, but once i install, the boot proccess hangs, and occasionally emits an error that something to the effect of "ata1: command <hex> timeout"...what should i do?
[04:07] <mjbjr> Tomorrow, I'm scheduled to upgrade a friend from 5.10 to 6.06.1 ... does 6.06.1 handle upgrading gracefully, or should I do a completely new install?  Or should I wait a month for the next version to come out?
[04:08] <andycker> how are you
[04:08] <florian> can someone tell me what i have to write in /etc/profile so that java is systemwide known?every time i want to execute a java file ive got a nasty error :(
[04:08] <ArrenLex> florian: "nasty error"?
[04:08] <nocotigo> Quash: like some other people on there said, i'd try using the alternate cd
[04:09] <ScurveyFrog> hello, i'm trying to add windows to my /boot/grub/menu.list. it is on hdc1
[04:09] <Quash> yes, downloading now.  Never seen this with any Linux distro CD.  Any idea what's going on?
[04:09] <nocotigo> florian: find the PATH variable, and add in the path to the java bin folder
[04:09] <ScurveyFrog> what lines would I add to menu.lst?
[04:09] <nocotigo> Quash: dunno, but that cd has been sketchy for me too
[04:09] <imperfect-> sethk: so if you know some superuber cool way
[04:09] <nocotigo> maybe an ati driver deal
[04:10] <imperfect-> sethk: to get to the boot prompt i'mlistening
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | ScurveyFrog
[04:10] <ubotu> ScurveyFrog: Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:10] <Quash> alternate 60% downloaded.
[04:10] <AsheD> so I am having a small problem with unicode characters in my mp3 tags, anybody suggest something better?
[04:10] <nocotigo> brb, gonna see if irqpoll as a kernel param makes my dvd burner work
[04:10] <nocotigo> gonna cry if it doesnt
[04:11] <devios> I have a font.fon file, and a font.ttf file.  I'd like to install both fonts on ubuntu, but don't know how, and am finding the google results difficult to understand... gotta be an easy way to do it.  would anyone know an easy way to install and use these fonts?
[04:12] <florian> profile looks atm like this: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[04:12] <florian> PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
[04:12] <florian> export PATH
[04:12] <sethk> devios, ttf fonts are used by putting them in the font server search path
[04:12] <florian> what else do i need?
[04:12] <devios> sethk: ?
[04:12] <sethk> devios, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and see what the FontPath s are
[04:12] <ScurveyFrog> ubotu: I've already done exactly what those directions say to do
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I've already done exactly what those directions say to do - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <ArrenLex> florian: could you actually expand on "nasty error" please?
[04:12] <ScurveyFrog> ubotu: when I installed Ubuntu, my window's partition was not recognized in GRUB
[04:12] <devios> l
[04:12] <ubotu> when: minimalistic personal calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:13] <ScurveyFrog> ubotu: so I want to do it manually
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about so I want to do it manually - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <ArrenLex> ScurveyFrog: you're talking to a robot =P
[04:13] <sethk> devios, /usr/share/fonts/truetype usually have ttf font files in it.
[04:13] <imperfect-> sethk: Any supercool uber way to get a bootprompt?
[04:13] <devios> sethk: so just copy the ttf font file into there?
[04:13] <jmitchj> how to i restore to a backup of xorg.conf?
[04:14] <ScurveyFrog> ArrenLex: apparently
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> ScurveyFrog: Ah, okay.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> ScurveyFrog: So no auto-detect goodness for you, eh?
[04:14] <sethk> devios, yes.  I don't think you need to manually regenerate the font info, I think it's regenerated each time X starts using the font paths.
[04:14] <ScurveyFrog> tonyyarusso: nope
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> ScurveyFrog: 'k.  One sec.
[04:14] <devios> so I need to restart x after copying the font there?
[04:14] <sethk> devios, put it in a directory with other ttf files, not with other types of font files.
[04:15] <sethk> devios, yes.
[04:16] <Seeker2599>  does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?
[04:17] <sorush20> could someone help please here is the the problem http://pastebin.co.uk/4475, there is a missing version number for a file .. http://pastebin.co.uk/4475
[04:17] <_ph00> anyone has some idea about why I'm getting lots oc connection attempts from lots of different IP's tho I'm not running any p2p app, and most weird of all, I'm behind a nat with no forwarded pots, no those connections shouldn't even get that far
[04:18] <_ph00> ...with no forwarded poRts *
[04:19] <sethk> _ph00, being behind NAT in and of itself means nothing.  do you mean you are sharing one public IP with multiple private IPs?
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> ScurveyFrog: Sorry, we're having some technically difficulties with my dual-booting contact having a clue.
[04:19] <ScurveyFrog> tonyyarusso: okay
[04:20] <_ph00> sethk, I'm behing a ISP nat, I have no access to the router and can't forward port (I know that sucks... long story) but no one else shares this IP with me
[04:20] <bod_> whats the best firewall to use for desktop use
[04:21] <xenophenes> ScurveyFrog....try putting this in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | bod_
[04:21] <ubotu> bod_: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:21] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know of a really good GUI newsleecher program?
[04:21] <xenophenes> title Microsoft Windows XP
[04:21] <_ph00> I'm getting really many connection attempts on UDP 16058 from different IP's and I don't know why
[04:21] <xenophenes> root (hd2,0)
[04:21] <xenophenes> savedefault
[04:21] <xenophenes> makeactive
[04:21] <sethk> _ph00, port forwarding is only necessary with shared IPs.  being behind a NAT makes absolutely no difference in terms of people making connection attempts.
[04:21] <xenophenes> chainloader +1
[04:21] <AsheD> what character set are mp3 tags in?
[04:21] <god-stud808> whats so hot about ubuntu?
[04:21] <god-stud808> I dont think is has a recent kernel does it?
[04:21] <xenophenes> the problem might be (hd2,0)
[04:21] <BRBSHOWERZ> Its got Catphrases!
[04:21] <god-stud808> its deb based eh
[04:22] <sethk> _ph00, NAT just translates your outside IP to your inside IP.  It doesn't provide any security.
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> god-stud808: Not bleeding edge, no, but newer than Debian.
[04:22] <xenophenes> that assumes you have windows on hdc partion 1
[04:22] <ScurveyFrog> xenophenes: yeah, that's exactly what I already put in my menu.lst
[04:22] <_ph00> so why can't I listen for inbound connections on bittorrent for example?
[04:22] <_ph00> and why I'm getting those connections anyway?
[04:22] <xenophenes> is windows on hdc partition 1?
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> ScurveyFrog: Hers is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27736/
[04:23] <Ranbee> SpudDogg: there's pan, don't know how good it is compared to anything else though
[04:23] <ScurveyFrog> xenophenes: I have windows mounted at /media/windows, and when I run 'df', it tells me it's at hdc1
[04:23] <sethk> _ph00, specifically, it does not block connection attempts.
[04:23] <jewbilee> !wine
[04:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:23] <sethk> _ph00, so there is no mystery here.  I've been getting a ton of hack in attempts the past few weeks as well.
[04:24] <xenophenes> I wonder if the computer bios is capable of booting off hdc?
[04:24] <SpudDogg> Ranbee, pan.  ok thanks man.  have you ever used newsleecher for the "unspoken OS"?  if so, how does it compare?
[04:24] <ScurveyFrog> xenophenes: I am able to see everything on my windows partition from ubuntu
[04:24] <xenophenes> yeah, but that is because you have it mounted
[04:24] <ScurveyFrog> xenophenes: yeah, I was previously booting edgy eft from hdc1
[04:24] <jmitchj> would it be a good idea to restore to xorg.conf.original-0?
[04:25] <Ranbee> SpudDogg: i think i used grab, or something like that, i forget, it's fairly good, but i don't use it much, so i'm not the person to ask...
[04:25] <SpudDogg> Ranbee, ok cool
[04:25] <Ranbee> np
[04:26] <xenophenes> ScurveyFrog...sorry...that was my best guess
[04:26] <sorush20> hi my pakcage list or status is damaged how to do i fix it?
[04:26] <ScurveyFrog> xenophenes: okay, well thanks anyway
[04:26] <okapi> Anyone know something about status 102 generate by Samba?
[04:27] <god-stud808> u bung 2
[04:27] <xenophenes> Can someone help with a cursor problem...move cursor shows as random pixels
[04:27] <cycom> xenophenes: it's not a bug, it's a feature!
[04:27] <cycom> xenophenes: actually, I don't know.
[04:28] <rixth> How many bytes are associated with one inode?
[04:28] <tnnc> can someone tell me what might be the best ftp server to add to 6.06 so my users can ftp in
[04:28] <xenophenes> I've found reference to the problem, but no solutions
[04:28] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, check your grub device map
[04:29] <mjbjr> tnnc: maybe proftpd
[04:29] <Jay2> hey, folks
[04:30] <mjbjr> Tomorrow, I'm scheduled to upgrade a friend from 5.10 to 6.06.1 ... does 6.06.1 handle upgrading gracefully, or should I do a completely new install?  Or should I wait a month for the next version to come out?
[04:30] <Seeker2599>  does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?
[04:30] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: how?
[04:30] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: I was thinking that maybe rootnoverify would work
[04:30] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, it's a file in /boot/grub, named device.map.  It maps hdabcd type addresses to (hd#) type addresses
[04:31] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: I was about to try it
[04:31] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, I don't see off hand how rootnoverify would help, but it can't hurt to try it.
[04:31] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: it says hdc is hd1
[04:32] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: so I should try (hd1,0)?
[04:32] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, yes
[04:32] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay, back in a minute
[04:32] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, it may be necessary to rewrite grub, but try without first
[04:32] <Seeker2599> i guess thats a no
[04:33] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: what do you mean by rewrite grub?
[04:33] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: (sorry, I'm not very familiar with grub)
[04:33] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, write it back onto the mbr.  I do this with the grub utility; some people use grub-install
[04:34] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay, I'll try this first, if it doesn't work I'll be back here for more directions
[04:34] <sethk> k
[04:35] <rixth> fsck is asking me if I want to clear an entire inode, should I say yes or no?
[04:37] <sethk> rixth, not much choice, you have to say yes.  only question is whether you stop, backup, then say yes, or just say yes.
[04:37] <rixth> sethk, how many bytes are usually associated with an inode?
[04:37] <BHSPitLappy> can anyone tell me any unbiased info about TGZ vs ZIP vs RAR vs whatever
[04:38] <rixth> BHSPitLappy, I tfind tgz to have the best compression, can't speak for it in other terms
[04:39] <rixth> sethk, if I know the inode number, can I find out what is there?
[04:39] <BHSPitLappy> well, compression ratio is what I'm going by, not efficiency or compression time
[04:39] <Fructose> What's the best way to install a Radeon X1300 card using Edgy Eft?
[04:39] <sethk> rixth, if you don't mind dumping out individual disk sectors and reading hex dumps, you can.
[04:39] <rixth> !ati
[04:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <sethk> rixth, check whether there is anything to help you in the e2fsprogs package
[04:40] <rixth> sethk, no thanks! Is an inode likely to be 1 mb to 1 gb or just a few bytes?
[04:40] <sethk> rixth, certainly no more than 1 mb, probably less
[04:41] <sethk> rixth, I'd have to check to get the numbers, but a relatively small amount
[04:41] <Fructose> rixth:  I don't meet all of the requirements given in that wiki entry
[04:41] <sorush20> why does my kded always keep crashing ?
[04:41] <rixth> So I won't be losing like an entire movie or something?
[04:41] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: no go
[04:41] <rixth> Fructose, why not?
[04:41] <sethk> rixth, unlikely
[04:41] <Fructose> rixth: When I do glxinfo, I get X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[04:41] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, running grub, doing the root command, then the setup command
[04:41] <rixth> Fructose, eek not sure, but Edgy Eft is #ubuntu+1
[04:41] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: eh?
[04:43] <simtower> what
[04:43] <tehstev> huh?
[04:43] <Hydra> ok, now i'm annoyed
[04:44] <Hydra> does anyone have a manual install process for edgy as the gui installer doesn't work for me
[04:44] <tehstev> hey all... i have a mounted sshfs connection, but it won't work or unmount.. .i'm getting the error "Transport endpoint is not connected"
[04:44] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay, grub is running
[04:45] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: I tried to type 'root' and 'setup' but neither command did anything
[04:45] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, you have to know the rest of the command  :)
[04:45] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, I didn't give it to you because I don't know your layout.
[04:45] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, typical is:    root (hd1,0)           setup(hd0)
[04:45] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, which would mean the /dev/hdb1 is the root partition and you are installing to the mbr of /dev/hda
[04:45] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, change the numbers to match your installation.
[04:46] <SAM_theman> how i reconfigure my sound?
[04:46] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay, my ubuntu root is hda1, and my windows root is hdc1
[04:46] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, we don't care about windows for this
[04:46] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, we care about where the menu.lst file lives
[04:46] <ScurveyFrog> sethk, just ubuntu?
[04:47] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay
[04:47] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: so hda1 is hd0,1
[04:47] <Fleebailey33> im having trouble with mac-on-linux. i may sound stupid. it seem to of started. it says darwin kernal version. now what do i do ?
[04:47] <Hydra> anyone?
[04:47] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, hda2 is (hd0,1)
[04:47] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, and it won't accept the commands without the parens
[04:47] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, grub begins at 0, but the /dev/hda notation begins at one
[04:47] <ScurveyFrog> sethk, oops, okay (hd0,0)
[04:47] <sethk> right
[04:48] <Hydra> all i want to do is install ubuntu to a system that has a raid-0 array which appears on /dev/mapper/* after dmraid is installed
[04:48] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, I'm being bitchy about the syntax because the program is bitchy about the syntax  :)
[04:48] <SAM_theman> ubotu, sound
[04:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:48] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: so we want: root (hd0,0) setup(hd0)
[04:48] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: right?
[04:49] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: and all on one line?
[04:49] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, no
[04:49] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, first the root command on a line by itself
[04:49] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay, got it
[04:49] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, then the setup command on a line by itself
[04:49] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: selected disk does not exist
[04:49] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, hm, that's interesting.
[04:49] <Praxi> hmm
[04:50] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, can you put your menu.lst on the paste web site?   and your device.map?
[04:50] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: when I run 'df' it tells me that '/' is /dev/hda1
[04:50] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, right, I believe you
[04:50] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: yeah, what's the address for that?
[04:50] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, do you have a separate partition for /boot?
[04:50] <sethk> !paste
[04:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:50] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: no, it's on hda1 with root
[04:51] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, ok, then it should be working.
[04:51] <sethk> ScurveyFrog, it isn't working presumably for the same reason you have this problem in the first place.
[04:52] <Praxi> hehe anyone know anything about red hat enterprise linux?  trying to get Ubunto added to grub with it (the grub installer off ubunto won't over write the redhat one when I install)
[04:52] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: okay, menu.lst is there
[04:53] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: and now device.map is there
[04:54] <Xal> I need to reinstall grub on an SATA drive.
[04:54] <Xal> Do I still use HD?
[04:54] <Xal> hd*
[04:54] <Xal> nick Xal2
[04:55] <Seeker2599> does anyone here use avidemux?
[04:55] <rixth> !anyone
[04:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:56] <bruenig> I have tried to use it and failed
[04:56] <Praxi> Xal do a df -h I think it is
[04:56] <SpacePuppy> question
[04:56] <Seeker2599> how do i use avidemux to split an avi file in half?
[04:57] <Praxi> hehe
[04:57] <Praxi> still can't get into ubunto about to write it off and just stick with RH
[04:57] <Praxi> ubuntu*
[04:58] <SpacePuppy> to write what off?
[04:58] <Praxi> ubuntu
[04:58] <bruenig> Praxi, the MBR should be overwritten when you install ubuntu
[04:58] <Praxi> its not
[04:58] <bruenig> Praxi, did you use the desktop cd?
[04:58] <Hydra> i'm dumping ubuntu, can't get it installed, no decent manual install docs for latest release, no dmraid support
[04:58] <SpacePuppy> rh is too vanilla... ubuntu is a solid user friendly distro..  two completely different critters.
[04:58] <Hydra> gentoo here i come
[04:59] <Praxi> it doesn't report anything during the install, but when the box reboots it still uses the RH grub
[04:59] <Hydra> ooh look: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_with_NVRAID_using_dmraid
[04:59] <Hydra> just what i need
[05:00] <Praxi> if I try to do a rescue/grub reinstall from the unbunto CD I get a error 20
[05:00] <Nyto-RJ> bye
[05:00] <Hydra> i added some comments to the ubuntu release feedbakc
[05:00] <bruenig> Hydra, have fun compiling everything from source
[05:00] <Hydra> wiki page, hopefully someone will take notice
[05:00] <Hydra> bruenig, yeah :(
[05:00] <Hydra> still, at least it might work
[05:00] <Praxi> and I installed from the alternate CD
[05:00] <Hydra> and at least there's good docs
[05:00] <bruenig> nothing like waiting 24 hours to compile open office
[05:00] <Praxi> limme check what version, I downloaded both 6.06 and 6.10
[05:00] <Hydra> I don't need loads of apps
[05:01] <zirra> heya guys.  I installed gdm but when I try and startx it tells me it can't find /etc/X11/X
[05:01] <zirra> what do  need to instl?
[05:01] <Hydra> all I need is a cross-compiler!
[05:01] <ScurveyFrog> bruenig: haha! that's so true!
[05:01] <bruenig> gnome or kde I am sure take just as long
[05:01] <Hydra> my box is a nice dual core x2 4200, so compiling from source, hopefully, won't be too bad
[05:01] <SpacePuppy> have fun Hydra
[05:01] <Praxi> hehe same here hydra
[05:01] <Hydra> it's a shame as i've seen ubuntu on some other pc's and it looks nice
[05:01] <bruenig> resolving your own depedencies also
[05:01] <CaptainMorgan> wtf
[05:02] <Squeee> If I installed a 64bit kernel and used all 32 bit binaries, could I make a 64bit chroot?
[05:02] <CaptainMorgan> stop that
[05:02] <bruenig> oh that obscure lib file isn't there hmmm, better go find it somewhere
[05:02] <Praxi> seems like all the desktop 64 bit os's hated my raid setup
[05:02] <ScurveyFrog> Hydra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280896&highlight=dmraid
[05:02] <SpacePuppy> what... time.h is in there .. wtf???
[05:02] <Hydra> i got the old release (5.x) running with dmraid on my box at work, but this new edgy release just won't install, even manually
[05:02] <Praxi> tried fedora core and ubuntu 64, neither one would install
[05:02] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all git a little problem starting my terminal .. When I click it, the status bar shows it, then it goes away. No errors nothing .. I made an icon on the menu bar, and it does the same thing .. gnome-terminal just doesn't start .. help? (Edgy Eft) ..
[05:03] <bruenig> !edgy
[05:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:03] <godzirra> Heya folks.  I just installed gdm and x11-common and when I try and startx it tells me X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[05:03] <godzirra> What do I need to install to get X up and running?
[05:03] <NineTeen67Comet> Thanks bruenig ..
[05:03] <iratsu_> can the partition editor in the ubuntu installation resize NTFS?
[05:03] <SpacePuppy> godzirra, is this a fresh install?
[05:03] <godzirra> yes.
[05:03] <Squeee> why should I use sudo -i instead of sudo -s or sudo su?  I was told to use sudo -i only
[05:04] <Hydra> i also can't find any docs regarding a manual installation to a blank partition using debootstrap for edgy
[05:04] <SpacePuppy> start over.. you did not install x
[05:04] <godzirra> It doesnt give me an option
[05:04] <Hydra> all the docs are for warty, sid, sarge and dapper
[05:04] <godzirra> it automatically installs everything and reboots.
[05:04] <godzirra> Using ubuntu - dapper.
[05:04] <rcarr> just because you didn't install X doesn't mean you have to start over
[05:04] <ScurveyFrog> Hydra: have you ever been to ubuntuforums.org, they're great at this stuff
[05:04] <SpacePuppy> really.. try it again.. it's easier.
[05:04] <bruenig> /etc/X11/X is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/Xorg on my machine
[05:04] <rcarr> install xserver-xorg
[05:04] <Hydra> and they all fail at various points and I've already spent 6 hours trying now...
[05:04] <godzirra> SpacePuppy: I don't have an option to install X when I do an install ;p
[05:04] <godzirra> starting over wouldnt herlp ;p
[05:04] <godzirra> help
[05:04] <godzirra> rcarr: thanks, lemme try that.
[05:04] <fdsd> hey guys, why is it not possible to mount a currupted drive but imaging a drive with dd will allow me to mount the image it creates?  any idea why that works?
[05:05] <Hydra> i swear, linux is the biggest time-sap ever
[05:05] <Fructose> If I have a Radeon X1300, do I want to enable the kernel framebuffer device?
[05:05] <mynullvoid> I am using this --- useradd $1 -c $2 -g costa -s /bin/bash -m -p '$1$a/wmVI5L$3csBpudpOFZiuY8yPpDvD/'  to create user from a bash script file but I notice that when I try to echo the line I miss the single quote. How can I fix that?
[05:05] <godzirra> Hydra: play World of Warcraft. :)
[05:05] <bruenig> Hydra, initially it is but once you get it running, it runs faster and smoother and to your whims better than anything else.
[05:05] <asymmetry> Hydra, ditto. At least, Linux WAS the biggest time-sap ever. Then I got engaged. ;)
[05:05] <godzirra> lol
[05:05] <Praxi> imaging software doesn't typically care about the state of the hard drive
[05:05] <ScurveyFrog> Hydra: especially gentoo
[05:06] <bruenig> I get all of my scripts and keyboard shortcuts and apps and preferences which takes probably a full week or so and then from there it is awesome.
[05:06] <godzirra> rcarr: is there a xf86configurator or something?
[05:06] <ScurveyFrog> Hydra: nothing like gentoo for sucking your time away
[05:06] <bruenig> godzirra, do you have x installed?
[05:06] <rcarr> godzirra: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:06] <fdsd> anyone know?
[05:06] <godzirra> Hrm.  It didnt ask me to configure xserver-xorg.  How odd.
[05:07] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: anything yet?
[05:07] <asymmetry> Okay, see... Gentoo is like that 67 Chevy in your garage. It looks awesome. You tell all your friends that it'll be bad-ass whenever you finally get it running. But for some reason, it never does get running. It sits there in the garage, looking sweet as shit, but never doing anything.
[05:07] <jbinder> !schedule
[05:07] <rcarr> godzirra: Well, that's a xorg configurer, xf86=eh
[05:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:07] <bruenig> godzirra, wait, do you have XFree86 or Xorg?
[05:07] <mick__> i'm a newbie trying to make a boot disk for an old pc. cna anybody point me to any information on this?
[05:07] <Che-Anarch> Anyone here do any development / translation?
[05:07] <godzirra> bruenig: Xorg
[05:08] <aleve8> could some one help me???
[05:08] <godzirra> rcarr: Sorry, I meant Xorg.  Old habits.
[05:08] <bruenig> !ask
[05:08] <Hydra> i guess, what i could do, if gentoo turns out to be pants, is stick a spare hdd into my box here and run it from that
[05:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:08] <Brydenn33> hey guys, is there a command to put in the konsole to tell me what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[05:08] <godzirra> Hrm.
[05:08] <aleve8> i need help finding simplymepis drivers for a gam55pluss3g board
[05:08] <godzirra> it dies now telling me could not open default font 'fixed'
[05:08] <AsheD> I use amarok for my media player, and I am having some troubles getting it to read my music tags, I don't know if it uses a different character set or something, anybody use it?
[05:08] <asymmetry> how stable is edgy right now?
[05:09] <feross> mick__: dsl is a good little distro for old pc-s .. or slax might be good also
[05:09] <Brydenn33> edgy is supposedly fine
[05:09] <Seeker2599>  does anyone know how to use avidemux to split an avi file in half?
[05:09] <Hydra> still, that's totally pants having to get a different hd just because the distro won't install to hardware that *is* supported by the distro once it's installed. lol
[05:09] <Brydenn33> the final release is on the 26th
[05:09] <mick__> thanks feross
[05:09] <asymmetry> Anyone running edgy via a dist-upgrade from dapper?
[05:09] <Brydenn33> not i asymmetry
[05:09] <Fructose> If I have a Radeon X1300, do I want to enable the kernel framebuffer device?
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> asymmetry, me
[05:09] <Brydenn33> i actally did a clean install of Edgy Beta and just upgraded to RC1
[05:09] <asymmetry> wickedpuppy, how is it?
[05:09] <aleve8> i need help finding simplymepis drivers for a ga-m55plus-s3g(1.x) board
[05:10] <printk> asymmetry: I tried that but had some issues... I suggest a clean edgy install
[05:10] <ScurveyFrog> asymmetry: I was, but it gave me trouble, so I started from scratch
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> asymmetry, nothing wrong ... boring
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:10] <asymmetry> printk, were the issues with the sysvinit/upstart conflict?
[05:10] <printk> asymmetry: yes a few of those and also some usplash conflicts also....
[05:10] <printk> asymmetry: but i did the upgrade around knot1.... maybe it's cleaner now
[05:10] <asymmetry> printk, so clean install is the way to go, isn't it?
[05:10] <ScurveyFrog> asymmetry: I'd say so
[05:11] <printk> asymmetry: yes that's what i'd recommend.  I have a seperate /home directory so i just don't format that and reinstall the rest
[05:11] <fdsd> hey guys, why is it not possible to mount a currupted drive but imaging a drive with dd will allow me to mount the image it creates?  any idea why that works?
[05:11] <tnnc> anyone know of any docs on coppermine on ubuntu
[05:11] <asymmetry> printk, this is my oops-i-killed-it-oh-well machine.
[05:11] <printk> asymmetry: :)
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> btw whats the upstart command ? i did upstart and get no such command error
[05:11] <asymmetry> wickedpuppy, upstart is a replacement for init
[05:12] <bruenig> !edgy
[05:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> asymmetry, that i know .. what is its command name ?
[05:12] <demantik_> http://kiwi.peemail.org/sandboxed/kids_in_sandbox.mpg awesome
[05:12] <asymmetry> wickedpuppy, not sure
[05:12] <printk> wickedpuppy: it's not a command.  it's the init system, the rc files.  it consists of several things
[05:12] <printk> wickedpuppy: start is one, init is one... etc etc..
[05:13] <dadexter> stonecrest!!!
[05:13] <demantik_> dadexter, !
[05:13] <JKnife> dadexter!
[05:13] <dadexter> demantik_!!!
[05:13] <stonecrest> hello dadexter
[05:13] <dadexter> JKnife!!!
[05:13] <asymmetry> what's the console command to get the update manager to see edgy?
[05:13] <tnnc> anyone know where maybe some docs on coppermine on ubuntu
[05:13] <demantik_> http://kiwi.peemail.org/sandboxed/kids_in_sandbox.mpg this is why ubuntu rocks :)
[05:13] <bruenig> !ops
[05:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:13] <bruenig> demantik
[05:13] <asymmetry> is it 'update-manager -d -c'?
[05:14] <AsheD> can anybody tell me what character set amarok uses?
[05:14] <JKnife> asymmetry: umm just edit your sources.list -_-
[05:14] <asymmetry> Or not. Can I get an answer to my question, as it was asked?
[05:15] <dadexter> try google
[05:15] <Xal2> For a grub installation, do I use my first hard drive for the setup (hdx) command?
[05:15] <asymmetry> Been doing that, thanks. Anyone going to not be lazy?
[05:15] <Xal2> or do I use the one with Linux on it?
[05:15] <bruenig> gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[05:15] <asymmetry> bruenig, THANK YOU. Finally, a real answer.
[05:16] <dadexter> google could have told you that
[05:16] <dadexter> I found it
[05:16] <stonecrest> OMFG that link is disgusting!!!!!!!
[05:16] <dadexter> what link?
[05:16] <stonecrest> dadexter: 21:12     demantik_| http://kiwi.peemail.org/sandboxed/kids_in_sandbox.mpg this  is why ubuntu rocks :)
[05:16] <asymmetry> dadexter, in the time you were doing that, you could have just... answered.
[05:16] <bruenig> I just went to ubuntu.com and looked for a release candidate link
[05:16] <nixternal> don't foget to kick him
[05:16] <nixternal> there you go ;)
[05:16] <dadexter> asymmetry: how would I know? wtf is update-manager?
[05:17] <LookTJ> Someone help with adding a windows network printer? it's an Lexmark Optra E312L. Thanks for reading my question
[05:17] <asymmetry> dadexter, maybe... the update manager?
[05:17] <bruenig> update-manager is the well update manager
[05:17] <bruenig> it is the graphical update thing
[05:17] <dadexter> oh shit! wtf am I doing in #ubuntu?
[05:17] <DBO> ...
[05:18] <asymmetry> lol
[05:18] <Fujitsu> O...K.
[05:18] <ScurveyFrog> sethk: are you still here?
[05:18] <_azrael> Hey, does anyone know how to fix Eclipse giving a "A console is not available." error?
[05:18] <_azrael> *How do I fix Eclipse giving a "A console is not available." error?
[05:20] <LookTJ> Someone help with adding a windows network printer? it's an Lexmark Optra E312L. Thanks for reading my question
[05:20] <fdsd> Anyone here interested in working on a script that will walk a newbie though backing up a currupted harddrive to a external?
[05:21] <LookTJ> or link me please
[05:21] <ianmacgregor> _azrael: Have you seen these: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22a+console+is+not+available%22&btnG=Search
[05:21] <iCod> I have a serious problem, and I need it fixed within an hour. 3 packages including libc6 are broken and synaptic will no t fix them. Any ideas?
[05:22] <bruenig> iCod, what do you mean broken and what is the hurry
[05:22] <iCod> the packages are broken, and I have a podcast in an hour, and its stopping skype from working
[05:22] <gubluntu> so i am pull like 3 gigs over ssh with rsync in vt1, anyone know how i can see its progress or at least its transfer speed?
[05:23] <bruenig> iCod, try reinstalling?
[05:23] <iCod> yeah
[05:23] <Madpilot> iCod, what is the *exact* error message - and can you pastebin your sources.list, please?
[05:24] <mrvw0169> iCod, I don't know but try sudo dpkg --configure -a... or sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade... the dist-upgrade only if sudo aptitude reinstall * still doesn't fix it (* = all your broken packages)
[05:24] <iCod> I have
[05:25] <iCod> the error message is...
[05:25] <iCod> one sec
[05:25] <omp> later folks
[05:26] <iCod> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[05:26] <iCod> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:26] <iCod>   libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable
[05:26] <iCod>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is to be installed
[05:26] <iCod>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is to be installed
[05:26] <LookTJ> WILL ANYONE ANSWER MY QUESTION???(sorry for caps)
[05:26] <iCod> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:26] <iCod> thats the error message
[05:26] <LookTJ> !paste
[05:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:26] <gubluntu> !patience
[05:26] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:26] <rcarr> iCod, and did you try apt-get -f install ?
[05:26] <iCod> yes
[05:27] <iCod> sudo apt-get -f install gives the same error message
[05:27] <rcarr> try installing tzdata?
[05:27] <iCod> yes
[05:27] <LookTJ> icod: what about aptitude -f install
[05:27] <rcarr> and?
[05:27] <iCod> it says the packages need to be fix before it can be installed
[05:27] <rcarr> just a second
[05:27] <Nemecus> hello everyone
[05:28] <iCod> LookTJ, i tried that
[05:28] <mrvw0169> what repo is causing you to pull in 2.3.6ds?
[05:28] <LookTJ> aptitude and apt-get is different
[05:28] <iCod> mrvw0169, not sure
[05:28] <rcarr> iCod: use apt-cache show on the package to see what repo a certain v ersion are from
[05:29] <iCod> ok
[05:29] <Nemecus> is there anyone that is a super expert on ubuntu and can help me. I am a super noob and I just installed it. I have trouble getting my video card to work
[05:29] <chuckyp> Nemecus, what kind of card?
[05:30] <rcarr> iCod: If it's helpful, but no gurantees...but it has no dependencies
[05:30] <rcarr> iCod: http://dev.wired-designs.net/tzdata_2006l-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:30] <bruenig> wow chuckyp is arrogant thinking he is a super expert and all :)
[05:30] <rcarr> iCod: You could try dpkg -i on that deb to install tzdata
[05:30] <iCod> ok
[05:30] <rcarr> iCod: But that is the edgy version so eh
[05:30] <Nemecus> it is actually a laptop... Intel Graphic Media Accelerator 950. I am trying to run WoW with Crossover but it keeps saying that my 3d accerleration is not supported by WoW...
[05:30] <iCod> I'll try it
[05:31] <SpudDogg> !edgy
[05:31] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:31] <chuckyp> Nemecus, did you try searching the forums for your card?
[05:31] <Alakazamz0r> !edgy
[05:31] <Alakazamz0r> heh
[05:31] <SpudDogg> !schedule
[05:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:32] <iCod> Cannot open tzdata_2006l-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:32] <Nemecus> yeah, I am getting lost with all of it. I can't find anything specific for my card. I also have been checking the device manager and all the items (processor, graphics card, etc) say unknown on it.
[05:32] <SpudDogg> What are some of the differences between dapper and edgy?
[05:32] <iCod> The filename "tzdata_2006l-1ubuntu1_all.deb" indicates that this file is of type "Software package". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "HTML document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[05:32] <rcarr> iCod: err, that's a problem with my apache, oops
[05:32] <iCod> ^never mind^
[05:32] <lasindi> Has the security fix for the NVIDIA driver been packaged for Ubuntu, or do we have to execute the NVIDIA binary?
[05:32] <iCod> wheres the right one then?
[05:33] <chuckyp> SpudDogg, go to the edgy page and see
[05:33] <godzirra> Can anyone help me?  I can't start X because it can't find my default fixed font.
[05:33] <SpudDogg> chuckyp, i was looking more for people's opinions.  is it worth a format and reinstall?
[05:33] <rcarr> iCod: Just a second
[05:34] <chuckyp> SpudDogg, You don't have to format and reinstall
[05:34] <chuckyp> SpudDogg, you could dist-upgrade if you wanted to.
[05:34] <mrvw0169> SpudDogg, no you can upgrade to edgy from dapper pretty easily
[05:34] <Madpilot> iCod, can you pastebin your sources.list, please? Errors like yours are often caused by non-Ubuntu repositories in sources
[05:34] <iCod> what do you mean pastebin?
[05:34] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:34] <Madpilot> iCod, that ^^^
[05:34] <iCod> sorry...
[05:35] <rcarr> iCod: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2006m-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:35] <gubluntu> how do i force --stats or --process on a rsync already running
[05:36] <iCod> I pasted my sources.list
[05:36] <iCod> I'm downloading tzdata
[05:37] <LookTJ> so anyone....Someone help with adding a windows network printer? it's an Lexmark Optra E312L. Thanks for reading my question
[05:37] <nym_> how do you reset a password in ubuntu if you can't log in at all?
[05:37] <rcarr> nym: If you haven't  set a root password
[05:37] <rcarr> nym: You can add rw init=/bin/sh to the end of the boot line in grub
[05:37] <equilibrium> nym_: you'll need to boot into single user mode and set it from there
[05:37] <Fujitsu> rcarr, or just boot into recovery mode...
[05:38] <rcarr> nym:And then once you have a root console, you can run "passwd usernamegoeshere"
[05:38] <nym_> rcarr: cheers
[05:38] <nym_> equilibrium: tried that, no luck
[05:38] <rcarr> Fujitsu: I didn't get a recovery mode option with my last install
[05:38] <Luke> Seveas: do you have a repo for edgy set up yet?
[05:38] <Fujitsu> rcarr, it should always be there... You must have stuffed around with something if it's not.
[05:38] <equilibrium> nym_: can't boot into single user or can't set it from single user?
[05:38] <rcarr> Fujitsu: It's possible it  was a bad CD, it was an edgy daily build
[05:39] <nym_> can't boot into single
[05:39] <Fujitsu> nym_, what does it not do?
[05:39] <nym_> it goes to the login
[05:39] <iCod> tzdata installation was a success!
[05:40] <nym_> anyways, thanks!
[05:40] <Nemecus> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu (installed it yesterday) I am having some issues. I look at my device manager and everything that is on there (processor, graphics card, etc) show device type as unknown. Is that normal? I have a Toshiba Satellite (laptop) with a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950. When I try to play WoW using Crossover, I get an error saying "Your 3d acceleration card is not supported by World of Warcraft" Am I doing something wron
[05:40] <root> hello
[05:40] <equilibrium> nym_: try booting a live cd, mounting the / filesystem and then chrooting to it
[05:40] <iCod> dependency problem fixed, THANK YOU!
[05:41] <Zambezi> Anyone skilled on rsync? I need to block external access, but i'm not sure how.
[05:42] <iCod> Madpilot and rcarr, THANK YOU
[05:43] <rcarr> iCod: No problem good luck with the padcast
[05:43] <rcarr> iCod: Err, podcast
[05:43] <iturk> hi there i have a problem in kismet http://pastebin.ca/214633 !! can someone help ??
[05:44] <godzirra> Crap.  I can never remember what windows manager I like.
[05:44] <godzirra> It is very minimal.  With a bar at the bottom.  And a right click menu.
[05:45] <asymmetry> IceWM?
[05:45] <asymmetry> XFCE?
[05:45] <godzirra> no, neither of those.
[05:45] <godzirra> I dont think.
[05:45] <iCod> rcarr, will do, see you later
[05:45] <tannerld> how can one check the timezone from the command line?
[05:46] <godzirra> Any other ideas?
[05:46] <mrvw0169> black/open/flux/box
[05:46] <jojoman02> how do i change what codec rhythmbox/gstreamer use?
[05:46] <mrvw0169> ?
[05:46] <godzirra> fluxbox!
[05:46] <godzirra> thank you :)
[05:46] <mrvw0169> lol np
[05:46] <jojoman02> for mp3 for example
[05:46] <AsheD> I have been having some problems with amarok reading tags, and I am told I may not have UTF-8 support or something on my system, how can I check/remedy this?
[05:48] <joli> hi, i have a partition mounted for /home. This partition is already full, so i created a new partition and mounted it as /home but when i do it, ubuntu can't read from /home anymore. can anybody help me sorting this out?
[05:48] <sethk> joli, that's not quite what you want to do.
[05:49] <sethk> joli, as you noticed, a mount  covers up anything in that part of the tree
[05:49] <sethk> joli, you only mount to an empty directory
[05:49] <nwbreneman> I just did a fresh install of Xubuntu from a gnome/xfce mix, and my external firewire harddrive is no longer showing up. any help please?
[05:49] <sethk> joli, you have two choices.
[05:49] <sethk> joli, you can copy the data, or you can use symbolic links
[05:50] <sethk> joli, does the new partition have enough space for what (used to be on) home plus enough empty space?
[05:50] <joli> sethk: can i for instance mount it at /home/joli/newpartition and then put a simbolic link for /home/joli ?
[05:50] <Zambezi> godzirra, Enlightenment 17?
[05:50] <sethk> nwbreneman, either the kernel module for firewire isn't loaded, or perhaps firmware support is missing  in the kernel.
[05:51] <sethk> joli, yes
[05:51] <joli> no, is exactly the same space that the old one...it is what left of the disc
[05:51] <sethk> joli, ok, then you need to use links
[05:51] <nwbreneman> sethk, thanks, but i have no idea how to fix this. i can wait if you need me to do so
[05:51] <sethk> joli, only you said it kind of backwards.
[05:51] <sethk> nwbreneman, one second, let me finish with joli
[05:51] <asymmetry> edgy == sexy
[05:52] <sethk> joli, say you mount the new partition on /home2
[05:52] <joli> yes
[05:52] <elljay> HAHAHAHAHHA
[05:52] <sethk> joli, then, you copy everything from /home/joli to /home2
[05:52] <elljay> 22:41 [ bigs]  give it ten years, and M$ will be gone hopefully
[05:52] <elljay> 22:41 ::: bigs was kicked from #vista by newbfeet [The following word is banned: M$] 
[05:52] <elljay> that almost brought me to tears ;)
[05:52] <sethk> joli, then, your delete /home/joli
[05:52] <sethk> joli, then you do:   ln -s /home2/joli /home/joli
[05:53] <joli> sethk: ok, thank you!
[05:53] <joli> i will give a try :)
[05:53] <sethk> joli, it's easy, and you had already figured it out, it sounds
[05:53] <sethk> nwbreneman, is this firewire drive always connected, or do you connect it occasionally?
[05:54] <acu> konqueror question: I want to add the google search in a toolbar (similar to firefox) anyone knows how to do it?
[05:54] <nwbreneman> it's always connected, but i had it off when i booted my computer
[05:54] <sethk> acu, it already has it.
[05:54] <acu> sethk: konqueror?
[05:54] <sethk> acu, yes, konqueror already has a search area built in, similar to firefox
[05:55] <sethk> acu, right next to the url box
[05:55] <nred> Could someone help me. When I got to my resolution Screen, I only have the option for a resolution of 600x400
[05:55] <sethk> acu, konqueror had it three years before firefox/mozilla had it.
[05:56] <sethk> nred, none of your configured resolutions are usable, so you are defaulting to 6x4
[05:56] <ChocoCid> http://rafb.net/paste/results/sriBig80.html  <-- so what's up with this and how do i fix it?  Every time I try to use apt the yiff-server thing pops up and it's quite annoying
[05:56] <sethk> nred, or, none of your resolutions above 6x4 are usable.
[05:56] <acu> sethk: ok I just some extra utilities and it works now (I am using GNOME). However I want to add another search tool to NCBI
[05:56] <sethk> nred, look in your X log file.  /var/log/Xorg.org.0.log
[05:56] <nred> sethk, how do I go about fixing it?
[05:57] <sethk> acu, ah, ok, that can be done.  Did you try in the kde channel?  I would have to figure it out as I haven't looked at it in ages.
[05:57] <ChocoCid> er, nvm, it works after repeatedly removing the program ;[
[05:57] <sethk> nred, first try running (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <sethk> nred, if it does not correctly identify your monitor, override it's monitor choice with the appropriate generic.
[05:58] <sethk> nred, when you get to the question about resolutions/monitors, take the middle difficulty level.
[05:58] <nred> ok
[05:58] <nred> I will try that
[05:59] <acu> sethk: thanks. I just think that Konqueror should have been the star instead of firefox. Konqueror is just so cool, from smb to ftp web browsing and file manager is just all in one
[05:59] <acu> thanks again- bye
[06:00] <_goofy_> anyone know of a program to mount a image file to a virtual cd drive
[06:01] <Zambezi> Anybody skilled on rsync? I need to ask some question about security.
[06:01] <equilibrium> _goofy_: mount?
[06:01] <nwbreneman> sethk, did you get my last response?
[06:02] <sethk> nwbreneman, sorry, no, I was doing some work work.  :)
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> What command locks the screen in gnome?
[06:02] <nwbreneman> sethk, heh, no problem. I usually have the drive connected and on constantly, but it was off when I turned on my laptop
[06:02] <_goofy_> i have an immage file that is a game and i want to get arround burning i to a disk
[06:02] <tannerld> Sudo isn't working for me. I get "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 22 01:00:17 2006" when I try to use it.
[06:03] <sethk> nwbreneman, run dmesg, then turn on the drive and run dmesg again.  see if there is any response.
[06:03] <sethk> tannerld, make sure your clock on the machine is set to the correct time.
[06:04] <equilibrium> _goofy_: if it's an iso image you can just mount it like you would a disk: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/isodisk
[06:04] <sethk> tannerld, sounds like you might have lost the clock setting and it went back to 1980 or something .
[06:04] <tannerld> sethk: Just changed it to the correct time.
[06:04] <tannerld> sethk: Hmm.
[06:04] <nwbreneman> sethk, the first dmesg said ieee1394 node suspended, after i turned it on, it showed that it was connected
[06:04] <sethk> nwbreneman, ok, then the kernel module is there and is loaded.
[06:04] <tannerld> sethk: Seems right "Sun Oct 22 00:04:54 EDT 2006"
[06:04] <sethk> nwbreneman, did you try to mount it?
[06:04] <Em3rald> _goofy_ or like this:  sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:05] <sethk> nwbreneman, probably you merely need to add a line to /etc/fstab for it.
[06:05] <Em3rald> make sure you "mkdir" the appropriate directory first
[06:05] <_goofy_> thanks
[06:05] <Em3rald> np
[06:05] <sethk> tannerld, well, no, it's not 04:54 EDT on sunday
[06:05] <sethk> tannerld, it's roughly 04:54 UTC
[06:05] <nwbreneman> sethk, d'oh, I didn't even check the disks admin. it's there. thank you!
[06:05] <tannerld> sethk: isn't it hour/min/seconds?
[06:06] <sethk> tannerld, yes, sorry, I misread
[06:06] <tannerld> sethk: :P
[06:06] <Em3rald> _goofy_:  Just a note, I believe the target directory must be /empty/ before you can use it for mount.
[06:06] <sethk> tannerld, I dont' mess around with sudo, normally, I just use su.  at the very least you can use su to fix sudo.
[06:06] <tannerld> he
[06:06] <equilibrium> Em3rald: you can mount filesystems on non empty directories
[06:06] <tannerld> sethk: heh
[06:06] <Bladeless> i need help on installing ubuntu, can someone please help me...
[06:07] <dabaR> Bladeless: you need me to close the cd tray?
[06:07] <Em3rald> equilibrium:  just as I thought ... never tried it on a non-empty directory.
[06:07] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  Fire away.
[06:07] <Bladeless> dabarR: im use to installing fedora core
[06:07] <feross> hey, what files does xorg look at? Just the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? does hotplug or gnome create any other files that are specific to each user?
[06:08] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  well, its pretty straightforward usually.  Burn the CD or DVD image, slap it in the drive, reboot and give'er nuts
[06:08] <Bladeless> i have the desktop cd
[06:08] <Em3rald> Alrighty, so when it boots, do you get the ubuntu desktop?
[06:08] <sethk> feross, yes, files specific to the user are created by many things including gnome.  do this in your home directory:    ls -A
[06:08] <Bladeless> i just get a list and it boots to ubuntu live
[06:09] <sethk> feross, all the subdirectories beginning with . (that is dot) are state files.  you'll see the one for gnome, the name is obvious.
[06:09] <Em3rald> Yup, thats peachy.  On the desktop should be an icon that points you to install it.
[06:09] <Em3rald> Just give 'er a double-click and voila (usually)
[06:09] <sethk> brb, probably
[06:09] <thejoeandchip> bladeless: there is only a live cd, from there you install it too your desktop
[06:09] <Bladeless> ??? what icon? i cant seem to find it :S, i have no mouse
[06:09] <Smotang> How do I add fonts to Ubuntu?
[06:10] <sethk> Bladeless, use the text mode install from the alternate cd
[06:10] <Em3rald> Well, that would be the root of our problem then, hey?  Okay so just so I know what you are looking at ... you have a brownish desktop, right?
[06:10] <Em3rald> sethk:  I want to try without that first ...
[06:10] <Bladeless> only have the one i downloaded it
[06:10] <mrvw0169> is the alternate cd now called the server cd?
[06:10] <Em3rald> Bladeless, that's okay ... we'll try to get you all fixed up.
[06:10] <sethk> mrvw0169, no, there are three
[06:10] <quintin> Playing a multiplayer freecraft
[06:10] <Bladeless> tahnks em3rald
[06:10] <quintin> anyone wanna join?
[06:10] <sethk> Em3rald, I can't imgaine why, but ok
[06:10] <Smotang> How do I install fonts in ubuntu?
[06:10] <kyubi> hi
[06:11] <chuckyp> !fonts > Smotang
[06:11] <quintin> Smotang: stw
[06:11] <Smotang> thanks
[06:11] <quintin> now then
[06:11] <Em3rald> Sethk:  well, he's got the desktop CD and he's ready to go ... if it's relatively easy we'll go this way first.
[06:11] <mrvw0169> i remember there are 3 everytime i download the install cds since the "desktop/live cd" never works for me
[06:11] <quintin> everyone join my Wargus game
[06:11] <Em3rald> Okay now Bladeless:  Do you have a top and bottom menu bar?
[06:11] <xenex> Would installing CS:S/DoD:S and GW be relatively easy on Ubuntu using Cedega? And decent performance and stability?
[06:11] <mrvw0169> and always get alternate... but i don't see the link to them anymore on www.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <quintin> xenex: totally stable.  ass-slow unless you have nvidia or ati drivers.
[06:12] <Bladeless> i have a menu, satrt or install ubuntu, start ubuntu in safe graphics mode chekc cd for defects mem test, boot from first hard disk
[06:12] <Bladeless> when i use the start or install ubuntu
[06:12] <xenex> quintin: last time i tried gw, it was crap. cs:s/dod:s works well?
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> Where would gnome-screensaver put something indicating the screen locked/unlocked status?
[06:12] <mrvw0169> nm i'm just stupid =P
[06:12] <Bladeless> i get an error that x coulndt start
[06:12] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  that would be the usual way .... but that is a peculiar issue.
[06:13] <Bladeless> ill get you the error in just a second, its loading the install part
[06:13] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  Okay, I'll see if I can find a quick fix for you .......
[06:13] <sethk> tonyyarusso, probably in the gnome state directory under your home directory
[06:14] <tnnc> anyone know of any good docs about installing coppermine on ubuntu
[06:14] <sethk> Bladeless, if you don't have a mouse connected, X won't start.  you don't want that install without a mouse in any event.  use the text mode install from the alternate cd if you don't have a mouse.
[06:14] <feross> sethk: ok I see the gnome directories but which one is the one that controls screen resolution and what devices are used to display.. LDC-CRT-TV ... it's on a laptop. I want to be able to control it what to use, right now it only works when I boot up with the devices plugged in.
[06:14] <Bladeless> mouse is plugged in....
[06:15] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  is it ps/2 or USB?
[06:15] <Bladeless> usb i think
[06:15] <Keyseir> Where should I go to see about upgrading breezy badger to dapper drake?
[06:15] <Bladeless> let me check'
[06:15] <sethk> Bladeless, you said you don't have a mouse.  did you mean that you don't see the mouse?  that's a completely different thing.
[06:15] <Tron_> im having trouble setting up fglrx i get the error that my chipset is not recognized, using radeon 9200SE
[06:15] <TheUni> Keyseir: might want to wait a day or two and upgrade to edgy.
[06:15] <ganja_guru> will there be another RC before final?
[06:15] <Bladeless> no mouse on the screen, physical mouse is present
[06:15] <rcarr> Keyseir: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <rcarr> Keyseir: To replace all occurences of breezy with dapper in your sourcces
[06:16] <rcarr> Keyseir: You can do it via some other method, then run sudo apt-get update
[06:16] <Bladeless> it was plugged on usb
[06:16] <rcarr> Keyseir: And sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Know where that would be?  (Poking around in .gnome2 now)
[06:16] <Keyseir> rcarr: Thanks.
[06:16] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  I don't suppose you have a PS/2 adapter do you?  This may be the quickest fix.
[06:16] <sethk> Bladeless, where else would it be plugged?  I don't understand what you mean.
[06:16] <rcarr> Keyseir: No problem, I think you can do it in synaptic or something, but I'm not sure how
[06:17] <sethk> tonyyarusso, no, not specifically, and I can't look because I'm running kde.
[06:17] <Em3rald> sethk:  Many of us still use PS/2 mouses you know ;)
[06:17] <Bladeless> lol ill see what i can
[06:17] <Bladeless> do
[06:17] <sethk> Em3rald, he said it's a usb mouse.  I wasn't saying it's a usb mouse.
[06:17] <sethk> Em3rald, this entire conversation is from the twilight zone  :)
[06:17] <ganja_guru> can someone please point me to ubuntu cvs?
[06:18] <Em3rald> sethk:  I realize that, but I have several USB mouses which are plugged in using an adapter to the PS/2 port.
[06:18] <Railer> quick question ubuntu allows, you to apt-get webmin?
[06:18] <crimsun> ganja_guru: what are you referring to?
[06:18] <Bladeless> will ubuntu give me a hard time if the keyboard is on usb?
[06:18] <sethk> Em3rald, that's fine also, but it has nothing to do with what I was saying.
[06:18] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  Doubtful, in fact, even the mouse issue is doubtful, except that I ran into it once before too, so I know what you are dealing with.
[06:18] <equilibrium> Bladeless: not at all
[06:18] <sethk> Bladeless, no
[06:19] <ganja_guru> crimsum: i'd like to checkout cvs for ubuntu packages. any cvs webview or something similar available?
[06:19] <sethk> Bladeless, I have usb mouse/keyboard on all of my systems now except for two old ones.
[06:19] <joli> railer: i dont think so...at least i could not find it with apt-cache
[06:19] <crimsun> ganja_guru: no, there's no cvs. Certain packages are maintained using bazaar-ng on launchpad.net, otherwise look in archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[06:19] <Bladeless> trying install now with mouse on usb
[06:20] <Bladeless> mouse on ps2*
[06:20] <Railer> thanks joli,
[06:20] <Em3rald> You may have to restart the boot CD first though ... not sure about that.
[06:20] <Bladeless> fedora doesnt give me that much trouble lol
[06:20] <sethk> Bladeless, fedora's installer is a bit better.  it doesn't mean that once installed you'll have problems.
[06:20] <ganja_guru> crimsum: im not looking for packages..just cvs entries..how do the devs manage without cvs?
[06:21] <sethk> Bladeless, that's why I said to use the text mode install.  everything you are doing now is a waste of time because it doesn't apply to the o/s, only to the install program.
[06:21] <oidia> how di i remove a key set with blowfish?
[06:22] <Em3rald> Sethk:  I was just attempting to prevent the extra time associated with downloading yet another image file.
[06:22] <crimsun> ganja_guru: some of us use bazaar-ng; the majority of packages are straight syncs from Debian and thus don't have "cvs metadata" attached
[06:22] <Bladeless> same error
[06:22] <ganja_guru> crimsum: i see..thanks
[06:22] <sethk> Em3rald, moving that off the install disk was a terrible mistake.
[06:23] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  From a fresh boot?  Peculiar. Sethk:  I totally and heartily agree.  I use the alternate myself. :D
[06:23] <Bladeless> fresh boot ya
[06:24] <Em3rald> Sethk:  I think the live install is a cool idea in some sense, but I think there should be a "directly install" option from the menu, instead of "boot/install" in one option.
[06:24] <Tron_> can anyone help me with fglrx
[06:24] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  there probably "is" a fix for this, but I don't know it.  I think we've exhausted the "easy" solutions, so the next easiest would be to download the ALternate CD which doesn't use the live installer.
[06:25] <sethk> Em3rald, yes, I would agree.  Well, I disagree that the live install has any advantage.
[06:25] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  unless you have some special wierdass mouse that requires some wacktastic driver.
[06:25] <Bladeless> ms mouse?:P
[06:25] <Em3rald> sethk:  It's good for the "wow" factor for linux noobs.
[06:25] <sethk> Em3rald, the old install program worked extremely well.  so, let's discard it for one that, who knows, might work.
[06:25] <Tron_> fglrx cant recognize the chipset for my radeon 9200SE can anyone help me out
[06:25] <strabes> yeah that is
[06:25] <Em3rald> Bladeless:  LOL!  Hahahah ... that's gotta be it, hey?  Hehehe, just kidding.  Shouldn't be a problem.
[06:25] <_goofy_> anyone know how to mannage a .daa file
[06:26] <rcarr> Tron: I know fglrx recently dropped support for some older cards, make sure it's supported
[06:26] <Em3rald> sethk:  I totally agree with you ... if the live installer was a little smoother and/or wasn't so damned slow to boot ......
[06:26] <Bladeless> whats the dvd do?
[06:26] <Railer> so are there deb packages that are not available for ubuntu?
[06:26] <Tron_> is there any easy way to check? i just used apt-get and followed a guide that said my card was infact supported
[06:27] <Em3rald> the DVD has part of the repositories built right in (afaik)
[06:27] <sethk> Em3rald, I guess the thought was that most people want the live cd and this way they only have to download one iso image.  A poor thought, in my view, but probably what they were thinking.
[06:28] <Em3rald> sethk:  Definitely likely close to the truth.  But how hard would it have been to put a "directly install Ubuntu" on the opening menu instead of boot/install on the current live disc?
[06:29] <Em3rald> 1.  Boot to Ubuntu live 2. directly install 3. do other stuff ....
[06:29] <sethk> Em3rald, maybe 1/2 hours work.
[06:29] <Em3rald> haha
[06:29] <chasmarang> what is the command line for scandisk in linux
[06:30] <JavaDeveloper> if I created an launcher on desktop, but when I click it, it doesn't launch my program, but if I run it in terminal, it works.  Is this a permission related problem or others? I am running Eclipse.
[06:30] <Em3rald> Okay.... where are the developers ... we want changes!!!  We want ACTION on this problem .... ;)
[06:30] <chasmarang> disk surface scan
[06:30] <sethk> JavaDeveloper, could be permissions, could be state set in your .bashrc, could be related to the current directory when the command is run.
[06:30] <Em3rald> chasmarang, dunno off hand, but I am sure someone will have it ....
[06:31] <sethk> chasmarang, badblocks
[06:31] <chasmarang> thanx E
[06:31] <sethk> chasmarang, although in fact fsck is closer to scandisk than badblocks.  but badblocks scans for bad sectors, and I think that's what you mean.
[06:31] <JavaDeveloper> sethk: ic ic...alright, thanks
[06:31] <nred> Has anyone here install Gyach in Ubuntu?
[06:31] <pc22> anyone familiar with CRMs?
[06:32] <chasmarang> thanx sethk
[06:32] <nred> and got it working
[06:32] <nred> Can someone help me with Gyach install?
[06:33] <nred> Can someone help me?
[06:33] <Fructose> I'm desperately trying to get my Radeon X1300 to work. I install the drivers, but my Xorg.log says "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found". Any ideas?
[06:33] <Fructose> It also says "(--) Chipset RADEON X1300 (RV516 7183) found"
[06:33] <Em3rald> nred:  never used gyach what is it?
[06:33] <sethk> Fructose, run lspci and see if 1:0:1 is correct
[06:34] <Jay2> what's the problem nred
[06:34] <nred> Yahoo Mesenger for Linux, I found an install
[06:34] <chasmarang> sethk:can I use it while I'm in linux
[06:34] <Fructose> sethk: 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a3
[06:34] <h3htimo> could someone help me with getting my sound working??
[06:34] <nred> I found a how to guide on how ot install, but the place I get the .deb file is down
[06:34] <Em3rald> nred:  have you tried sudo apt-get install gyach?
[06:34] <nred> yep
[06:34] <nred> doesn't work
[06:34] <nmsa> !telepathy
[06:34] <Em3rald> hmm
[06:34] <sethk> chasmarang, the only place you can use it is within linux.  however, if you can't use it on a mounted partition.
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about telepathy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Kr0ntab> Seveas, gonna add w32codecs to edgy?  or wait until final release of 6.10?
[06:34] <sethk> chasmarang, you probably want to boot the livecd to use it.
[06:34] <Fructose> sethk: Oh, right above that, there's 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7183
[06:34] <godzirra> how do I get wireless working on my laptop with ubuntu?
[06:34] <Em3rald> nred:  have you added any extra repositories to your sources.list?
[06:34] <nred> Yep
[06:35] <sethk> Fructose, ok, good, 1:0:1 is correct.
[06:35] <chasmarang> oh right great
[06:35] <sethk> Fructose, probably your best bet is to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:35] <sethk> Fructose, odds are that will fix you up.
[06:35] <Fructose> sethk: Again?
[06:35] <h3htimo> could someone please help me with getting my sound working??
[06:35] <Em3rald> nred:  am I assuming you don't currently have the .deb file?
[06:35] <nred> yeah
[06:35] <nred> I can't find the one it says in the tutorial I need
[06:35] <sethk> Fructose, when did you last run  it?
[06:36] <ed_> hi
[06:36] <nred> http://www.bongload.org/files/linux/gyach-enhanced-pyvoicechat_1.0.7-2_i386.deb it says use this one, but that site is down
[06:36] <Em3rald> Okay, well ... I see.  Well, we have to do a google search or something to find the appropriate .deb package. Unfortunately not all Debian packages are totally compatable with Ubuntu.  This could prove to be interesting.
[06:36] <Em3rald> kay hang on.
[06:37] <ed_> im having trouble connecting to my server through the internet, i set my hosts.allow to ALL: ALL, and i forwarded my ports on my router but i cant seem to connect. can someone help me please?
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> ed_, when you do ifconfig ... what do you get ? pastebin if its long
[06:39] <Fructose> sethk: Well, I first tried installing via the repository, which used that command, but that didn't work. I haven't done it since I tried installing via the ATI installer, but they are both fglrx, so I'm not sure why an update to the xorg.conf would make a difference.
[06:39] <Em3rald> nred:  try here:  http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/download.shtml
[06:39] <Fructose> sethk: But I just did it again, so I'll go reboot. I'll probably be back, with my luck. :-)
[06:39] <Em3rald> nred:  specifically this link:  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gyachi/gyachi_1.0.5-1_dapper_i386.deb?download
[06:39] <nred> Em3rald all there servers are down to
[06:39] <Em3rald> oh
[06:40] <chuckyp> !info gyachi
[06:40] <ed_> sorry im a newbie, whats pastebin?
[06:40] <ubotu> Package gyachi does not exist in any distro I know
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> nred, sourceforge download mirrors are all down ?
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin > ed_
[06:40] <chuckyp> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:40] <Em3rald> wickedpuppy:  it appears so ...
[06:40] <nred> no, they only have one listed in there list
[06:40] <nred> to download that file
[06:41] <Jbirk> is Edgy released?
[06:41] <chuckyp> !edgy Jbirk
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy Jbirk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <chuckyp> !edgy > Jbirk
[06:41] <wickedpuppy> one ? no ... sourceforge will direct you to the mirrors ... unless its on their own server of course ..
[06:41] <nred> whois
[06:41] <Em3rald> nred:  yeah, I see that .... in Kent.  And it's not responding.  Very strange.
[06:41] <jdt> edgy rc1 is released.
[06:41] <nred> yeah
[06:41] <Fructose> sethk: Still no direct rendering
[06:41] <Em3rald> wickedpuppy:  yup, dude, only one mirror is showing up in the list ... never seen that before.
[06:42] <godzirra> how do I get wireless working on my laptop with ubuntu?
[06:42] <jdt> what model laptop
[06:42] <chuckyp> Em3rald, its doing it with other packages as well
[06:42] <Em3rald> OOOP ... I just got it!
[06:42] <godzirra> Compaq Presario 5200 series
[06:42] <Em3rald> nred:  I can send the file to you thru here if you want
[06:42] <nred> what file?
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> yah dcc to him
[06:42] <Em3rald> the .deb ... the Kent mirror just fired at me, so I now have the file.
[06:42] <nred> okay
[06:43] <nred> that will work
[06:43] <Fructose> sethk: Still there... (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[06:43] <chuckyp> Wicked, Em3rald yeah souceforge mirrors have been messedup now for a few hours
[06:43] <Em3rald> stupid question ... uh ... how do I dcc it to you (I am not much an IRC user)
[06:43] <ed_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27753/
[06:43] <Em3rald> chuckyp:  wacky.  Any reasons?
[06:43] <Wicked> O.o
[06:43] <nred> I honestly have no ideas
[06:43] <poningru> godzirra: hold on
[06:43] <Em3rald> haha, okay, just a sec I will figure it out.
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> ed_, you got 192.168.0.16 .... cant you ping to any other places ? like google ?
[06:44] <Em3rald> oops, clicked the X
[06:44] <godzirra> poningru: sure thing.
[06:44] <nred> lol
[06:45] <Em3rald> anyway .. okay, trying to send it to you now.
[06:45] <unluckymike> anyone have any experience with wmp54g wireless cards?
[06:45] <Em3rald> nred, do you have a popup or something?  private chat or anything?
[06:45] <nred> nope did first time
[06:45] <nred> not this time
[06:45] <jdt> hmm - I cant find any info on Presario 5200 - does it have an internal wireless card? and how old?
[06:45] <Em3rald> wierd.  gah.
[06:45] <Em3rald> hang on, I have a problem on my end.
[06:45] <ed_> i can ping google, and my wan ip both responding
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> ed_, then the problem is ??
[06:46] <manmadha> is there any cmd to open the browser & browse a given URL?
[06:46] <Em3rald> nred:  the stupid file is corrupt.
[06:46] <poningru> godzirra: can you tell what the chipset of it is?
[06:46] <godzirra> poningru: how do I tell?
[06:46] <poningru> err what the wireless card name is?
[06:46] <poningru> go to system->admin->device manager
[06:46] <nred> lol
[06:47] <poningru> or something like that
[06:47] <Heptofite> hey, one question, whats the best quickest way to get sysinfo on ubuntu?
[06:47] <ed_> i goto http://66.27.201.99/ and it should show my server but it says cant connect
[06:47] <godzirra> poningru: You're assuming I have windows installed.
[06:47] <poningru> godzirra: no I am not
[06:47] <poningru> I am assuming you have ubuntu installed
[06:47] <Heptofite> and by that, i mean a dxdiag like function
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> ed_, can i clarify with you ? is it that your server seems to be down or you can't access the net ?
[06:48] <jdt> godzirra - open a console window and type "lspci"
[06:48] <h3htimo> could someone help me with getting my soundcard working???
[06:48] <godzirra> Broadcom
[06:48] <jdt> there will be a line that says wireless - prob toward the end.
[06:48] <godzirra> It says unknown device
[06:48] <poningru> godzirra: broadcom 43xxx?
[06:48] <ed_> i cant access my http server through the net
[06:48] <godzirra> Yup
[06:48] <godzirra> 4311
[06:48] <poningru> sweet
[06:48] <godzirra> Yay.
[06:48] <poningru> simple to solve
[06:48] <Em3rald> nred:  I think you might just have to wait for a while for the sourceforge mirrors to come back up.  It appears they have a problem.
[06:48] <sk> ello. i need some advice. how do i use the 6.06.1 live cd to partition undestructively on a ppc with mac osx? does gparted allow this in the command line? and if so, how do i get to the gparted command line?
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> ed_, is your server configured properly ? ssh into it and check
[06:49] <godzirra> I knew when you said 43xx that either meant really good or really bad :)
[06:49] <chuckyp> Em3rald, try from here http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/g/gy/gyachi/gyachi_1.0.5-1_dapper_i386.deb
[06:49] <poningru> godzirra: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:49] <poningru> go download that
[06:49] <poningru> and double click
[06:49] <poningru> then restart
[06:49] <ed_> through lan or wan?
[06:50] <Em3rald> chuckyp:  You da man ... the link is live.
[06:50] <godzirra> double click?  You keep talking like I use X.  lol
[06:50] <Em3rald> nred:  Try chuckyp's link dude ...
[06:50] <poningru> oh
[06:50] <poningru> godzirra: dude you have to say that you are not a complete noob
[06:50] <poningru> I have to assume that here
[06:50] <Jbirk> I cannot resize my windows
[06:50] <Jbirk> any help would be greatly appreciated
[06:50] <Fructose> I'm getting "(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found" followed by "(--) Chipset RADEON X1300 (RV516 7183) found" in my Xorg log. Anyone know how to get a Radeon X1300 working in Ubuntu?
[06:51] <godzirra> Hehe.. I'm not a complete noob.  Just new to wireless on unix.
[06:51] <godzirra> linux
[06:51] <poningru> godzirra: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> ed_, ssh is wan .. unless the server is right besides you ... the details are only known to you dude
[06:51] <Jbirk> Everything was good for me today until I installed updates
[06:51] <chuckyp> Jbirk, unmount it first
[06:51] <Em3rald> jbirk:  increasing or decreasing size?
[06:51] <godzirra> Yeah I know :)
[06:51] <poningru> cool
[06:51] <poningru> wasnt sure if you know the deb install system
[06:51] <godzirra> Yup yu.
[06:51] <dredhammer> anyone using Iceweasel? How do you get it to install  extensions and themes without downloading and dragging and dropping ?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> ed_, put my nick in front if you are talking to me pls ...
[06:51] <Em3rald> jbirk:  ignore my last question ... I thought you were talking partitions
[06:51] <godzirra> been running debian for... hrm..  I dunno.  Over 5 years ;)
[06:51] <godzirra> What now?
[06:51] <ed_> wickedpuppy, sorry about that
[06:52] <poningru> godzirra: it requires a network to be restarted
[06:52] <godzirra> I don't actually have ndiswrapper installed, but it tells me to remove the ndiswrapper driver.  Do I need to bother installing ndiswrapper?
[06:52] <godzirra> k
[06:52] <poningru> no
[06:52] <Railer> anyone using webmin onubuntu in here?
[06:52] <AsheD> I have been having some problems with amarok reading mp3 tags, basically, I have my music named with what I believe to be ISO 8859-1 encoding [Ubuntu's character map on the "Latin" set] , and I used id3v2 to create tags for the music, but they don't show correctly in amarok, so there is a disconnect somewhere, any ideas?
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> ed_, no problem ... how to access the server depends on you ... maybe you ssh or drive to it or its besides ya .. only you know
[06:52] <godzirra>  /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[06:52] <poningru> that should do it
[06:52] <unluckymike> i'm trying to set up my linksys wmp54g (ralink) card but it will not connect to the network anyone have any experience with this problem?
[06:52] <godzirra> I still don't have my blue "internet button" as my wife likes to call it.
[06:52] <godzirra> and I dont see it in the network
[06:52] <ed_> wickedpuppy, yeah the servers in my room, i can ssh to my server through my lan ip but not my wan
[06:53] <GerManson> Hi
[06:53] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Hello :D
[06:53] <GerManson> i am new at ubuntu =)
[06:53] <ed_> wickedpuppy, is there some kind of ubuntu firewall or access config i need to configure besides hosts.allow?
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> ed_, then the server ip is blocked by your router ...
[06:53] <poningru> godzirra: hmm it might require a restart then
[06:53] <godzirra> AsheD: I know -nothing- about the program your using.  That being said, the first thing I'd do is use another program to verify that the tags were written as id3v2's correctly.
[06:53] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Welcome!
[06:53] <GerManson> i was on Gentoo..
[06:54] <godzirra> poningru: no configuration or anything?
[06:54] <godzirra> just install that deb and boom I'm good to go?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> ed_, there is firestarter if your server got gui .. if not its iptable
[06:54] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Ah.  How do you like Ubuntu so far?
[06:54] <poningru> godzirra: it should
[06:54] <godzirra> hrm.
[06:54] <crimsun> AsheD: have you tried editing the tags using mutagen?
[06:54] <godzirra> Ok, its against my better judgement to fix something in linux by restarting, but I'll try ;)
[06:54] <poningru> you do have to configure the wireless settings though
[06:54] <ed_> wickedpuppy, mm maybe its iptables ill check it out thanks for your help, really appreciate it
[06:54] <godzirra> Oh sure, you tell m,e that right -after- I type reboot -n
[06:54] <GerManson> Em3rald, is good, easy. beautiful..
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> ed_, no prob ....
[06:54] <godzirra> ;)
[06:55] <poningru> ;)
[06:55] <poningru> brb
[06:55] <GerManson> not that flexible like Gentoo. but is still ok.
[06:55] <godzirra> poningru: Should my wireless light be lit up though?
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> ed_, you can flush the iptable rules .. its -f i think .. check out the man pages
[06:55] <dredhammer> anyone using Iceweasel? How do you get it to install  extensions and themes without downloading and dragging and dropping ?
[06:55] <AsheD> crimsun:: I don't know mutagen, but when I edit the tags in amarok, they show correctly after that, leading me to believe that it is something with the id3v2 function
[06:55] <Em3rald> Germanson:  fabulous.  No troubles ... nothin you need help with just now?  I find it flexible enough for me :D
[06:55] <godzirra> Whats Iceweasel?
[06:55] <poningru> godzirra: not sure
[06:55] <poningru> !iceweasel
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iceweasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <poningru> godzirra: something that makes me very very sad
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> godzirra, you got to read slashdot to know that :P
[06:55] <crimsun> AsheD: amarok's use of id3v2.x through taglib?
[06:55] <ed_> wickedpuppy, will do
[06:55] <godzirra> Yeah, I've been not keeping up with slashdot at all lately.
[06:56] <godzirra> I've got 177 hours t his month so far at work
[06:56] <godzirra> Havent had time ;p
[06:56] <Em3rald> I like using ExFalso for editing mp3/OGG tags.
[06:56] <GerManson> Em3rald: Just one thing. mm but i can live with out it... i cant figure out how to install compiz-manager. i already got the repositorioes...
[06:56] <unluckymike> in my network settings, why do i have wlan0 and wmaster0?
[06:56] <godzirra> oh dear god.
[06:56] <poningru> godzirra: hehe
[06:56] <godzirra> My gdm has a picture of a flower.
[06:56] <godzirra> I -must- change this.
[06:56] <poningru> rofl
[06:56] <godzirra> how do I change this ugly gdm screen?
[06:56] <Em3rald> GerManson:  There are a couple of really good tutorials on ubuntuforums.org that worked for me.
[06:56] <ink251> GerManson: try beryl
[06:56] <AsheD> crimsun:: just viewing the track's infomation?
[06:56] <poningru> !gdm
[06:57] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[06:57] <GerManson> Em3rald, out dated...
[06:57] <crimsun> AsheD: before changing, yes
[06:57] <Em3rald> From what I can tell Beryl is like, the next generation.
[06:57] <Lubix> hello ubuntu
[06:57] <GerManson> ink251, beryl is the new ubuntu?
[06:57] <poningru> godzirra: hehe hold on
[06:57] <Em3rald> GerManson:  No no, like the new Compiz - sorta
[06:57] <crimsun> AsheD: i.e., what are you using to determine the tags are incorrect?
[06:57] <godzirra> AGH
[06:57] <godzirra> and it starts gnome
[06:57] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Kinda like an offshoot.
[06:57] <godzirra> Gnome makes baby jesus cry.
[06:57] <Em3rald> godzirra:  LOL!
[06:57] <crimsun> so choose another desktop environment from the Session menu...
[06:57] <godzirra> Sorry.. this is really the wrong channel for me to bitch about GUI's isnt it ;)
[06:57] <poningru> godzirra: maybe ubuntu isnt for you
[06:57] <Lubix> i have a newbish question
[06:58] <auk_> baby jesus makes me cry
[06:58] <GerManson> Em3rald: aaaaaaah ok. mm beryl.. lets google it ..
[06:58] <Lubix> how do u do a tracert in linux?
[06:58] <AsheD> crimsun:: just that some characters show differently in the filenames vs. the playlist in amarok
[06:58] <Em3rald> lubix:  fire away.
[06:58] <godzirra> poningru: nah, I like ubuntu.  I've already got it on my desktop.  I just use fluxbox instead ;)
[06:58] <poningru> hehe
[06:58] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Use the ubuntuforums.org website and get a tutorial there :D
[06:58] <po0f> godzirra: It's definitely the wrong channel for bad language.
[06:58] <godzirra> and never had a picture of a sunflower on my gdm screen ;p
[06:58] <Em3rald> GerManson or even better, Wikipedia :D
[06:58] <crimsun> AsheD: your playlist is far more important, imo, than the filenames
[06:58] <Che-Anarch> Are the 18K+ applications on Repos all free?
[06:58] <GerManson> Em3rald: thanks for the advice
[06:58] <Railer> so anyone know if webmin_1.300_all.deb work on ubuntu??
[06:58] <godzirra> po0f: err, sorry.
[06:58] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: no. A few are not at all Free.
[06:58] <Em3rald> GerManson:  No Problem :D
[06:59] <AsheD> crimsun:: well, it would be nice if they were the same
[06:59] <Che-Anarch> So just a few are free?
[06:59] <LKRaider> uptime[3w 3d 8h 17m 15s] 
[06:59] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: fewer than one hundred.
[06:59] <godzirra> huh.  It did start fluxbox.  Then tried to load gnome on top. :/
[06:59] <GerManson> anyone here got gnome 2.16 ?
[06:59] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: no, everything but those are Free.
[06:59] <Em3rald> crimson:  LOL ... you are going to confuse people ...
[06:59] <po0f> GerManson: If you use Edgy, you have it.
[06:59] <Che-Anarch> Hmmm... even for end/home users?
[06:59] <jojoman02> GerManson: i do...
[06:59] <Lubix> tracert command in bash,please?
[06:59] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: yes
[06:59] <jojoman02> GerManson: with edgy :)
[06:59] <GerManson> jojoman02: and how is it?
[07:00] <crimsun> AsheD: true. That's why I use mutagen.
[07:00] <nwbreneman> hi, how do I set my default sound card in Xubuntu? i tried their room, but everyone is a vegetable at this hour
[07:00] <Che-Anarch> Man that kills the repos for me :-(
[07:00] <LKRaider> Lubix: tracepath
[07:00] <jojoman02> GerManson: i love it cuz CTRL+F in nautilus searches current directory, YEAH, no more searching for britney spears the hard way!!!
[07:00] <nwbreneman> basically I need rhythmbox to play with a usb sound card, rather than my onboard sound card, which is the default
[07:00] <LKRaider> Lubix: or install tcptraceroute
[07:00] <GerManson> lol
[07:00] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: eh? that fewer than one hundred non-Free are available whereas tens of thousands of Free ones are?
[07:00] <godzirra> poningru: So what now?  How do I configure my wireless?  How do I tell if its even working?
[07:00] <Railer> so anyone know if webmin_1.300_all.deb will work on ubuntu?
[07:00] <GerManson> jojoman02: that is an old feat..
[07:00] <Che-Anarch> OH.... sorry I understood it the other way round!
[07:01] <Che-Anarch> I thought you are saying majority are not free.
[07:01] <Lubix> lkraider: i prefer the command line
[07:01] <jojoman02> GerManson: no before it always searched in your home directory, i have 2 external HD's sometimes i need to search
[07:01] <godzirra> Weird. gdm tries to automatically log me in or something.  Its very odd.
[07:01] <LKRaider> Lubix: both are commandline
[07:01] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: thankfully, no, the vast majority are Free.
[07:01] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  Nah ... and even the "non-free" ones are usually "free" just that you have to read their stupid EULA thingamadooey
[07:01] <LKRaider> Lubix: one uses ICMP the other TCP
[07:01] <jojoman02> GerManson: you could change it and refresh but that is added hassle...
[07:01] <godzirra> and I cantr get out of gdm by hitting ctrl+alt+F1
[07:01] <nwbreneman> nobody could please tell me how to set my default sound card in xubuntu?
[07:01] <GerManson> jojoman02: I see..
[07:02] <crimsun> nwbreneman: if you had waited a few more minutes, I would have answered you in that channel.
[07:02] <Em3rald> nwbreneman:  not ignoring you dude ... I just dont use XFCE.
[07:02] <holycow> Amaranth, just a heads up, you should be getting the package soon.  i sent it a good number of days ago.
[07:02] <Che-Anarch> Great thanks... I am doing a localisation presentation on Ubuntu tomorrow so it was important that I get my facts stright.
[07:02] <crimsun> nwbreneman: use asoundconf(1) set-default-card
[07:02] <nwbreneman> i'm sorry, i don't mean to come across as impatient. i'm somewhat exhausted
[07:02] <poningru> godzirra: dude you want to install ubuntu 'server'
[07:02] <poningru> then
[07:02] <crimsun> nwbreneman: the string that you pass to it is taken from ``asoundconf list''
[07:02] <GerManson> is there anyway to install gnome 2.16 with LTS?
[07:02] <nwbreneman> crimsun: thank you very much! i appreciate it
[07:02] <poningru> godzirra: I would say you can check by doing ifconfig
[07:03] <poningru> see if there is an interface there
[07:03] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  Yeah ... the default installation of Ubuntu's repositories ARE definitely free.
[07:03] <jojoman02> nwbreneman: if you still need help try gstreamer-properties
[07:03] <chuckyp> nwbreneman, alsamixer?
[07:03] <poningru> I will let you find the necessary flags ;)
[07:03] <jojoman02> nwbreneman: from terminal
[07:03] <jojoman02> nwbreneman: or Alt+F2
[07:03] <nwbreneman> heh, okay, thanks to all of you
[07:03] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to open a terminal without the window decorations?
[07:03] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  It's just when you get into 3rd party repos and possibly Multiverse that things get a little gray.
[07:03] <Squeee> !lirc-x
[07:03] <ubotu> lirc-x: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support (X dependent parts). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:04] <godzirra> poningru: I'm pretty sure thats what I did. ;)
[07:04] <godzirra> then I installed xserver-xorg and gdm
[07:04] <Squeee> !lirc-modules-source
[07:04] <ubotu> lirc-modules-source: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support (kernel modules). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 191 kB, installed size 280 kB
[07:04] <GerManson> is there anyway to install gnome 2.16 with LTS?
[07:04] <jojoman02> nwbreneman: try alsamixer first
[07:04] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Umm ... why?
[07:04] <godzirra> poningru: I'm a little disturbed that I can't ctrl+alt+f1 out though?
[07:04] <chuckyp> GerManson, sure
[07:04] <jojoman02> GerManson: try edgy, it's in the RC phase so it's fairly stable
[07:04] <godzirra> am I missing something?
[07:05] <GerManson> is edgy a repository?
[07:05] <po0f> GerManson: Edgy is a release.
[07:05] <Che-Anarch> Man I need to find some more selling points of Linux (Ubuntu) for the lame computer person... and there is tons of things on net but nothing non-technical enough.
[07:05] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Haha no, it's the net Ubuntu release.
[07:05] <po0f> GerManson: Like Dapper, but better.  :)
[07:05] <jojoman02> GerManson: i would suggest you download the CD and fresh install instead of upgrading...
[07:05] <Che-Anarch> So far all I am doing is comparing a lot to Windows  :-p  and  OpenSource aspect.
[07:05] <GerManson> Em3rald: my question was.. can i install new gnome in dapper?
[07:05] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  well, the biggest selling point:  Free, legally, with fabulous support.
[07:05] <poningru> godzirra: you can
[07:06] <Lubix> what are some good books people know of for learning bash
[07:06] <GerManson> then i better wait for the official release :)
[07:06] <NewTrickster> Dapper desktop comes with Gnome.
[07:06] <godzirra> I can't hit ctrl+alt+f1
[07:06] <poningru> godzirra: I just did
[07:06] <jojoman02> Che-Anarch, how about FOSS concept
[07:06] <nwbreneman> jojoman02: i opened alsamixer, i didn't see any way to change the sound card, only the volume. is there a way to do this?
[07:06] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Oooh ... I gotcha.  I assume yes, and this might be another one to check in ubuntuforums.org
[07:06] <crimsun> nwbreneman: (I just told you...)
[07:06] <godzirra> I can't. :(
[07:06] <Che-Anarch> FOSS?  what is that?
[07:06] <poningru> what do you get?
[07:06] <poningru> brb
[07:06] <godzirra> nothing
[07:06] <godzirra> it completely ignores it.
[07:06] <poningru> what about f2?
[07:06] <jojoman02> nwbreneman, i will be with you within 2 min doing some research
[07:06] <godzirra> It also won't let me open a bash or sh
[07:06] <godzirra> I tried f1-f6
[07:06] <Lubix> bash book to learn with?
[07:07] <po0f> Lubix: Google for Advanced Bash Scripting Guide.
[07:07] <crimsun> nwbreneman: here, let's just walk through it. What's the output from ``asoundconf list''?
[07:07] <Che-Anarch> bash is actually a shell is it?
[07:07] <crimsun> Che-Anarch: yes
[07:07] <Praxi> how can I tell what ubuntu thinks my hard drives/partitions are if I can't boot into it?  I can get into redhat, just not ubuntu
[07:07] <poningru> godzirra: go to apps->tools->terminal
[07:07] <Che-Anarch> Is not*
[07:07] <poningru> but thats weird
[07:07] <nwbreneman> crimsun: sorry, i tried that and it didn't seem to work. i saw two sound cards listed, one being default. i changed the default to the other soundcard, and it didn't work
[07:07] <godzirra> I'm using fluxbox.
[07:07] <godzirra> I don't have an apps->tools->terminal
[07:07] <godzirra> I'm trying to change now though
[07:07] <poningru> oh sorry
[07:07] <crimsun> nwbreneman: what precise command did you enter?
[07:07] <poningru> dont
[07:07] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  yes indeed
[07:07] <GerManson> fluxbox is for freakies :P
[07:07] <poningru> you cant even open a terminal?
[07:08] <poningru> brb
[07:08] <Lubix> poOf:thats a extensive tutorial thanks
[07:08] <nwbreneman> crimsun: asoundconf set-default-card I82801CAICH3
[07:08] <Che-Anarch> I never quite got that... the name says shell and in essence its just a bunch of commands  :-p
[07:08] <Praxi> talking to me poningru?
[07:08] <Em3rald> godzirra:  what about apps>accessories>terminal
[07:08] <crimsun> nwbreneman: did you restart your alsa app(s)?
[07:08] <po0f> Lubix: Np,  ;)
[07:08] <godzirra> I'm restarting my box.  I'm having serious issues. :(
[07:08] <nwbreneman> crimsun: yes, I restarted rhythmbox
[07:08] <crimsun> nwbreneman: had you created ~/.asoundrc prior?
[07:08] <nwbreneman> crimsun: yes, I restarted rhythmbox
[07:09] <nwbreneman> crimsun: oops. I meant I don't know how to dot hat
[07:09] <po0f> Lubix: It's in the repos so you can view it offline, I forget the package name though.
[07:09] <crimsun> nwbreneman: no, I mean "did you create an ~/.asoundrc prior to running the asoundconf(1) command"?
[07:09] <GerManson> i am bored, does some one have a suggestion of what would be nice doing with my ubuntu?
[07:09] <Che-Anarch> Does anyone know of any "DJ"-ing app?
[07:09] <godzirra> I think my install may have some issues
[07:09] <nwbreneman> crimsun: heh, sorry. I hit the up key accidently.
[07:09] <godzirra> oh well.  I'm going to go to bed and screw with it tomorrow.
[07:09] <Em3rald> Germanson:  get Amarok and play with music
[07:09] <GerManson> Em3rald: that is what i am already doing x'D
[07:09] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Install yakuake so you have a drop-down terminal all the time :D
[07:09] <poningru> godzirra: I would seriously say choose ubuntu-server install
[07:10] <GerManson> Em3rald: that sounds nice..
[07:10] <godzirra> poningru: is htat going to help me get up and running? :)
[07:10] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Get addicted to a terminal non-graphical game called crawl .... and addicted you WILL be.
[07:10] <godzirra> with wireless and X?  lol
[07:10] <godzirra> poningru: what was that url again?
[07:10] <godzirra> so I can write it odwn for tomorrow?
[07:10] <crimsun> nwbreneman: please paste the output from ``cat ~/.asoundrc*'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[07:10] <MikeyMike> how do you find files in the terminal if you have a filename
[07:10] <Praxi> how can I tell what ubuntu thinks my hard drives are?
[07:10] <crimsun> Praxi: more precisely?
[07:10] <Praxi> mike do a find -name
[07:11] <MikeyMike> a filename such as sixpence none the richer - kiss me.mp3
[07:11] <MikeyMike> Praxi,  name being the filename?
[07:11] <GerManson> Em3rald: can i use yakuake with gnome?
[07:11] <godzirra> find / -name name
[07:11] <po0f> MikeyMike: find -type f -name "name"
[07:11] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Yup, though transparency doesnt work
[07:11] <Praxi> no find -name sixpence*
[07:11] <poningru> godzirra: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[07:11] <wickedpuppy> MikeyMike, sudo find / -name "filename" -print <-- that will find top down from / ... replace it whatever you like
[07:11] <jojoman02> nwbreneman, i don't see any easy way to do this, besides messing with config files, you should ask in the alsa channel those guys would know more (when they are available)
[07:11] <MikeyMike> thanks
[07:11] <godzirra> Thanks poningru, for all your help.
[07:11] <Em3rald> GerManson and you have to add a link in your sessions to make it boot every time you start.
[07:11] <godzirra> I'm going to bed and I'll work on it tomorrow :)
[07:11] <GerManson> Em3rald: oks :)
[07:11] <poningru> nn
[07:11] <Praxi> crimsun I installed Ubuntu, but grub install did not over write redhats
[07:11] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i submitted it
[07:11] <Praxi> so I cant boot into it
[07:12] <crimsun> nwbreneman: what's the url, please?
[07:12] <nwbreneman> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/214696
[07:12] <nwbreneman> crimsun: neat website, by the way
[07:12] <Praxi> after much fiddling, I got ubu's grub installed on the partition that ubu is installed to
[07:12] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Get Beryl going (or Compiz) and play with the rotating cube options.
[07:12] <crimsun> Praxi: you wouldn't want a new Linux install to overwrite another's, I presume
[07:12] <Em3rald> (do a search on Youtube.com for a video of Compiz)
[07:12] <Praxi> ya not the install, just the grub hehe
[07:12] <jojoman02> nwbreneman: actually try this webpage if you don't messing with conf files http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t48385.html
[07:13] <GerManson> Em3rald: i was in love with that cube. but not i prefer plain Xorg.
[07:13] <GerManson> but now*
[07:13] <crimsun> Praxi: it should have been added to the existing grub conffile
[07:13] <Praxi> I got both OS's installed, I'm halfway there, got BOTH grubs coming up
[07:13] <Praxi> it wasn't :(
[07:13] <keithhhh> anyone know how I can mount my compact flash card (inside a PCMCIA port) My system can see it when I look under Disk Manager"?
[07:13] <Em3rald> GerManson:  Yeah ... I am back to xorg most of the time too ... my screen is too dark for the cube.
[07:13] <crimsun> Praxi: with 6.06.1 LTS or 6.10?
[07:13] <crimsun> 6.10 RC, that is
[07:13] <GerManson> oh my god
[07:13] <GerManson> yakuake is good
[07:13] <GerManson> lol
[07:13] <Praxi> tried both actually
[07:13] <tnnc> anyone know of some docs about installing coppermine photo gallery on ubuntu
[07:13] <Em3rald> Germanson:  Hahah .... that's what I thought too .... lots of config options (though not all work in Gnome)
[07:13] <crimsun> nwbreneman: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' output to the correct device?
[07:13] <Praxi> think I stopped on 6.10 though
[07:14] <Yourname> Hello, if wpa_supplicant supports my card, does that mean I don't need any other drivers for it?
[07:14] <crimsun> nwbreneman: (you can substitute any wav file)
[07:14] <Em3rald> Unimportant question people:  Is it feasable (or even advisable) to use LILO instead of GRUB?
[07:14] <GerManson> how can i change qt' apps look from gnome?
[07:14] <nwbreneman> crimsun: no, I don't hear anything
[07:14] <Praxi> I can mount the ubu /
[07:14] <Praxi> is there a file or something I can look at that shows like hard drives it detected?
[07:15] <Praxi> so that way I can tell its local grub what to look at?
[07:15] <crimsun> nwbreneman: are the speakers/headphones/output devices plugged into the correct jack(s)? :)
[07:15] <keithhhh> anyone know how I can mount my compact flash card (inside a PCMCIA port) My system can see it when I look under Disk Manager"?
[07:15] <nwbreneman> crimsun: yes :)
[07:15] <crimsun> nwbreneman: now please pastebin ``amixer''
[07:15] <LookTJ> omg i deleted everything important
[07:15] <Em3rald> keithhh yes
[07:15] <GerManson> how can i change qt' apps look from gnome?
[07:16] <LookTJ> i did "apt-get remove postfix libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail"
[07:16] <Em3rald> keithhh:  I think you have to find out what /dev/hd?? it uses ......
[07:16] <keithhhh> Em3rald: how?
[07:16] <Em3rald> keithhh ... jussasec.
[07:16] <keithhhh> Em3rald: ok it uses hde
[07:16] <nwbreneman> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/214699
[07:16] <Praxi> df -h
[07:16] <manmadha> can any one tell where the files of cc compiler sored...?plz
[07:16] <po0f> manmadha: Huh?
[07:17] <po0f> manmadha: Are you asking where it puts the binary after you compile a program?
[07:17] <keithhhh> Em3rald: it uses hde according to the disk manager
[07:17] <manmadha> po0f, there is some error in my cc compiler
[07:17] <Railer> in apt-get -y what does the -y do?
[07:17] <po0f> manmadha: What kind of error?
[07:17] <Praxi> keithhh so should be similar to mount /dev/hde /misc
[07:17] <bcs> will Beryl work using an old Nvidia RIVA TNT M64 Pro graphics card
[07:17] <manmadha> po0f, there is no conio.h file..
[07:17] <Em3rald> keithhh:  Okay, do you know what filesystem is is?
[07:17] <Em3rald> sudo fdisk -l
[07:17] <Praxi> assuming its not auto mounting
[07:17] <keithhhh> windows fat
[07:18] <keithhhh> Em3rald: windows virtual fat
[07:18] <Praxi> thought linux could read fat/fat32 np?
[07:18] <po0f> manmadha: conio.h is a Windows file, I believe there was a project that ported it to Linux.  I forget the name though.
[07:18] <theDtTvB> Uhh, hello.
[07:18] <Praxi> so should still be /mount hehe
[07:18] <jojoman02> nwbreneman: omg, so easy do this, System> Preferences> Sound>
[07:18] <Em3rald> keithhh:  Okay, as Praxi said, something like mount /dev/hde /whatever/directory/you/choose
[07:18] <Yourname> Hello, if wpa_supplicant supports my card, does that mean I don't need any other drivers for it?
[07:18] <ed_> wickedpuppy, hey wicked, if im running a httpd do i need bind9 or can i just use ath.cx?
[07:19] <theDtTvB> I got some TTF fonts and wanted to install them. What should I do?
[07:19] <Em3rald> keithhh:  just make sure you have created the target directory first.
[07:19] <GerManson> how can i change qt' apps look from gnome?
[07:19] <Em3rald> keithhh:  and it has to be an empty folder.  I use stuff like sudo mkdir /media/removable
[07:19] <crimsun> nwbreneman: amixer set 'IEC958' off
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> ed_, can you view your page from server itself ?
[07:19] <crimsun> nwbreneman: after executing that command, is sound audible through the integrated sound chipset?
[07:19] <keithhhh> Em3rald: cool thanks by the way if I wasnt using Gnome hwo would I have know its dev/hde??
[07:19] <LookTJ> I deleted the update-manager
[07:19] <Em3rald> sudo fdisk -l
[07:19] <poningru> Yourname: what is your card's chipset?
[07:20] <ed_> wickedpuppy, naw not yet but im getting close, i telneted my wan ip and i can see the banner
[07:20] <Praxi> if I have a unbootable install, that I can mount in another OS, is there a way to look at a device list to see what HD's that unbootable install thinks there are?
[07:20] <LookTJ> :'(
[07:20] <Yourname> poningru: I think it needs the Prism2 driver.
[07:20] <greg_> Can someone help with ndiswrapper?
[07:20] <ed_> wickedpuppy, but it isnt showing on firefox
[07:20] <Em3rald> Praxi:  whoa ... who's on first?
[07:20] <Yourname> poningru: I tried to find out more, but couldn't. It's a D-link DWL-G122 Rev A2 USB adapter.
[07:20] <Praxi> hehe Em3rald
[07:20] <Davey> anyone know anything about mounting HFS+ on ubuntu?
[07:21] <nwbreneman> crimsun: sorry, I still can't hear anything
[07:21] <Praxi> been screwing with ubuntu for 2 days now, so close, don't want to give up yet :)
[07:21] <greg_> My brother is on the phone and he is trying to switch from window to ubuntu but we are having ndiswrapper trouble.  Can anyone help?
[07:21] <godzirra> one last question
[07:21] <crimsun> nwbreneman: and after this?  amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[07:21] <godzirra> where do I download an edgy net install iso?
[07:21] <ed_> wickedpuppy, yea i tried lynx on the server byitself and it shows
[07:21] <Em3rald> Praxi:  I am way out of my element on that question .... I have no idea whatsoever.
[07:21] <theDtTvB> Uhh, please help, how do I install fonts?
[07:21] <crimsun> godzirra: which $arch?
[07:22] <godzirra> i386
[07:22] <Praxi> roger, was hoping someone would know like if it stores in a file somewhere :)
[07:22] <crimsun> godzirra: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[07:22] <Che-Anarch> What about selling points of Ubuntu in comparison to other falvours of Linux?
[07:22] <Em3rald> theDtTvB:  place font files in your ~/.fonts directory I believe .... anyone confirm?
[07:22] <godzirra> danke
[07:22] <crimsun> bitte
[07:22] <GerManson> I cant send files in aMSN, does ubuntu has some firewall blocking my transfers?
[07:22] <asymmetry> scheisse?
[07:22] <theDtTvB> Thank you, I will try.
[07:22] <nwbreneman> crimsun: no, still nothing
[07:22] <poningru> Yourname: that should work out of the box for you
[07:22] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  One of the biggest is the support.  Ubuntuforums.org, the Ubuntu wiki, and this IRC channel are some examples.
[07:22] <Praxi> Che-Anarch: not that I can get ubuntu working, but theres 1000 people in its IRC support channel? :)
[07:22] <godzirra> crimsun: uhh, mini.iso?
[07:23] <poningru> GerManson: nope
[07:23] <crimsun> godzirra: sure
[07:23] <keithhhh> Em3rald: thanks again Im going to try now  ;)
[07:23] <crimsun> nwbreneman: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[07:23] <asymmetry> How can I find the UUID of a partition?
[07:23] <godzirra> 8 megs just seems awfully small.  Even for a net install iso
[07:23] <Em3rald> keithhhh:  let me know how it goes.
[07:23] <Che-Anarch> Hmmm... not easy of installation/ use?
[07:23] <Che-Anarch> ease*
[07:23] <Yourname> poningru: haha, I wish it did.  It didn't work at all.
[07:23] <greg_> no one can help with ndiswrapper on a bcmwl5 card? :-/
[07:23] <crimsun> godzirra: that's because it's a true netinstall. It's a PXE boot.
[07:23] <Praxi> mainly my problem
[07:23] <Che-Anarch> Or is there other flavours out there easier?  :-p
[07:23] <godzirra> ahh, ok.
[07:23] <godzirra> thanks.
[07:23] <Praxi> but not wanting to destroy my whole box just to install ubuntu hehe
[07:23] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  well, under most circumstances, this one is the easiest *I* have ever used, definitely.
[07:23] <nwbreneman> crimsun: nothing after that, either
[07:24] <lando> ive got an old pc i want to install ubuntu on but i cant make it boot from the cd anyone got any ideas or links to boot floppys
[07:24] <Yourname> poningru: I plugged it in, and it didn't work. I had a feeling it would too, but it didn't.. so I went to DriverLoader. www.linuxant.org
[07:24] <poningru> Yourname: hmm can you see it in the networking?
[07:24] <Em3rald> lando:  are we assuming you burned the CD correctly?
[07:24] <poningru> system->admin->networking
[07:24] <Yourname> poningru: Now I can.
[07:24] <Praxi> can distro's share a boot partition?
[07:24] <Yourname> poningru: Before driverloader, I couldn;t.
[07:24] <crimsun> nwbreneman: and  amixer set 'IEC958 Mute' off   ?
[07:24] <lando> yea the cd is burnt fine
[07:24] <pestilence> does /bin/sh in edgy follow POSIX standards more strictly?
[07:24] <poningru> oh ok...
[07:25] <crimsun> pestilence: dash? Yes.
[07:25] <AsheD> crimsun:: what?
[07:25] <Em3rald> lando:  the reason I ask is that it's common for people just to burn the ISO directly, and not actually burn the CD as an Image.
[07:25] <pestilence> crimsun, interesting.  it breaks whereami
[07:25] <asymmetry> More specifically, how do I find the UUID of an NTFS partition to use in /etc/fstab?
[07:25] <yakumo> hi can u help me how to use my msi bluetooth on my ubuntu?
[07:25] <AsheD> eh, nvm
[07:25] <crimsun> AsheD: ?
[07:25] <nwbreneman> crimsun: still nothing, sorry
[07:25] <Yourname> poningru: I was thinking I should do a fresh install again and see it if works.
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Any URL for more info on the difference dash vs bash that I could read?
[07:25] <AsheD> crimsun:: sorry, nick I use on other servers
[07:25] <theDtTvB> It doesn't show up. What should I do now? Restart my computer?
[07:25] <lando> i understand. im actually using ubuntu right now and i installed with the same cd
[07:26] <Em3rald> Praxi:  as far as I know, you can have multiple Linux os's using the same bootloader.
[07:26] <Yourname> poningru: Even if I do, and I can't see it in Networking, shall wpa_supplicant work for me?
[07:26] <crimsun> nwbreneman: ok, please install aumix and use that program from a terminal to adjust the volume(s)
[07:26] <nwbreneman> crimsun: certainly
[07:26] <Em3rald> lando:  Okay cool.  As far as boot floppies, I don't think such a thing exists.
[07:27] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: a Web search will be more fruitful, I think
[07:27] <Em3rald> lando:  when you say "old" ... how old are we talking?
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: 'k
[07:27] <pestilence> is edgy frozen?  is it too late to get in bugfixes?
[07:27] <lando> well its a 566 mhz with 192 megs of ram and 14 gigs of hd
[07:27] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: there's at least one not-so-current page; I don't remember the URL off the top of my skull
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> pestilence: #ubuntu+1
[07:27] <pestilence> ugh.
[07:27] <pestilence> oh.
[07:28] <Em3rald> lando:  Okay, specs are alright.  Umm ... stupid question, though ... is it a bios thing, where it's not checking the CDRom for a boot disk?
[07:28] <crimsun> pestilence: Edgy is definitely frozen, and unless the bugfix is non-invasive and fixes an absolutely critical issue, we likely will not consider it til post-release.
[07:28] <pestilence> tonyyarusso, my responses are screwy, i think i ate something bad.
[07:28] <Em3rald> (and it runs better with 256 by FAR)
[07:28] <poningru> Yourname: didnt you just say it shows up in networking?
[07:28] <nwbreneman> crimsun: still not working
[07:28] <lando> i just flashed the bios and have tried every configuration and nothing
[07:28] <crimsun> nwbreneman: what did you adjust in aumix?
[07:28] <poningru> !wifi
[07:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:28] <Jbirk> My ubuntu has problems
[07:28] <Jbirk> I hangs on thermal
[07:28] <Jbirk> any ideas?
[07:28] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i just turned all of the volumes up
[07:29] <Em3rald> lando:  Wacky.  Okay ... another relatively dumb question:  is it the live install disk or the alternate install?
[07:29] <GerManson> do you know ay app that organizes your music in folders like iTunes does?
[07:29] <logankoester> Anyone know how to build cdemu from source? I'm getting the error 'No rule to make `cdemu.ko`, needed by `modules`.'
[07:29] <Yourname> poningru: But only after installing driverloader :(
[07:29] <lando> live
[07:29] <GerManson> do you know ay app that organices your music in folders like iTunes does?
[07:29] <Em3rald> lando:  and you don't get the menu at all?
[07:29] <matkam> Hello, I am trying to compile something using boost, and I need to know whatversion of gcc was used to compile boost since i am having some linking errors. Is there any way to find this information out?
[07:29] <poningru> Yourname: its a prism2 usb right?
[07:29] <Yourname> poningru: Yup.
[07:30] <Yourname> poningru: Or so I think.
[07:30] <Em3rald> lando:  another side note ... on that machine, you might find xubuntu runs smoother.  It's better for "legacy" machines
[07:30] <poningru> whats the model number of your usb device?
[07:30] <crimsun> nwbreneman: can you take a screenshot of it?
[07:30] <lando> im not sure what u mean by the menu
[07:30] <pestilence> crimsun, ok...the bug is for a package in universe anyways (whereami)...i guess not too many people use it, because it's a showstopper
[07:30] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i guess i could. where do I upload it?
[07:31] <Yourname> poningru: Dlink DWL-G122 Rev A2
[07:31] <lando> it doesnt boot to the cd but when i put in the cd while in windows it gives me a menu but to check out the software in ubuntu
[07:31] <Em3rald> lando:  when ya slap the CD in the drive, do you get a menu asking you if you want to boot the Ubuntu live CD etc etc.
[07:31] <Em3rald> lando gotcha
[07:31] <GerManson> do you know ay app that organices your music in folders like iTunes does?
[07:31] <poningru> Yourname: hmm hold on
[07:31] <Yourname> poningru: Thanks dude!
[07:31] <pestilence> GerManson, amarok
[07:31] <ink251> Rythmbox, comes with ubuntu
[07:31] <crimsun> nwbreneman: choose a pastebin that allows uploading jpegs
[07:32] <poningru> Yourname: ok you should be able to use it now actually... did you try configuring it?
[07:32] <GerManson> pestilence: nope!! ... i mean.. moving files, changin files names.. etc.
[07:32] <crimsun> pestilence: have you filed a bug on it?
[07:32] <Em3rald> lando:  I am not entirely sure where to go from here, except to tell you to try either 1.  the alternate install CD, or 2. Xubuntu; otherwise, I would blame it on your BIOS settings not looking for the CDROM first at boot time.
[07:32] <nwbreneman> crimsun: heh, uh, I just realized I don't know how to take a screenshot with x/ubuntu
[07:32] <pestilence> crimsun, i just discovered it when i upgraded to edgy 1 hour ago.  i will file a bug.  and i think i have a fix, but i have to kill network to try it
[07:32] <Yourname> poningru: Even with WPA2? And do you mean out of the box, on a fresh install? On a fresh install it never showed up in Networking untill I installed Driverloader. :(
[07:32] <logankoester> anyone know how to get cdemu?
[07:33] <poningru> Yourname: ok on fresh install it should not have detected it...
[07:33] <pestilence> crimsun, basically, he used bash syntax but specified /bin/sh
[07:33] <AsheD> are there any commandline mp3 taggers that support id3v2 AND use an ISO charset?
[07:33] <poningru> Yourname: the correct method was to install linux-wlan-ng
[07:33] <lando> well thanks anyways Em3rald. if it doesn't work i think i might kick it out the window
[07:33] <poningru> Yourname: sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng
[07:33] <poningru> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[07:33] <Em3rald> lando:  that's horrible :/ :D
[07:34] <Che-Anarch> Would it be fair to say the Open Source in most cases (as far as end-user is concerned) is free (of cost)?
[07:34] <crimsun> nwbreneman: import(1)
[07:34] <Yourname> poningru: After a fresh install, that's what I need to get to make it work right away?
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> Che-Anarch: It can be, but doesn't have to be.
[07:34] <lando> heh yea its a box for my pops and i wanted him to have a linux box to play and learn with. oh well
[07:34] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  as a very general statement, I would say a cautious "yes"
[07:34] <poningru> Yourname: yep
[07:34] <Yourname> poningru: WOW, thanks so much dude. You've been one guy who actually explained it properly.
[07:34] <crimsun> pestilence: yes, please file a bug. bashisms should be straightforward and no-brainers to admit.
[07:34] <poningru> just install the package linux-wlan-ng
[07:34] <Che-Anarch> I am taking this with reference to the majority of things out there for Linux as a whole (baring in mind Repos)
[07:34] <poningru> yep np
[07:35] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  In the context of most thing Ubuntu, yes.
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> Che-Anarch: Would be happy to discuss more in #ubuntu-offtopic; see what you're getting at.
[07:35] <pestilence> crimsun, ok, will do.  and will brb if it works.
[07:35] <poningru> Yourname: it seems though you cannot use it with wpa
[07:35] <nwbreneman> crimsun: I'm still new to some aspects of ubuntu. I figured import was a terminal command, so I ran it, but bash doesn't recognize it
[07:35] <poningru> you can use it with wep though
[07:35] <Yourname> poningru: So, on a fresh install, I i get that package, and then it shows up in Networking, and then what do I need to do to connect to WPA?
[07:35] <Yourname> poningru: My grandad uses WEP :P
[07:35] <Che-Anarch> I was already there no one to discuse with   :-p
[07:35] <crimsun> nwbreneman: it's part of the 'imagemagick' package.
[07:35] <tnnc> ?join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:35] <nwbreneman> crimsun: I'll install that then
[07:35] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  I am going there now :D
[07:35] <poningru> Yourname: unfortunately that driver doesnt allow usage of wpa :(
[07:36] <Yourname> poningru: I know.. :( So how do I do it?
[07:37] <poningru> Yourname: doesnt seem like you can
[07:37] <poningru> but hold on still looking
[07:37] <nwbreneman> crimsun: okay, I installed and used the command import, but it says it's missing an image name
[07:37] <nwbreneman> crimsun: nevermind, read the manual file
[07:37] <Yourname> poningru: Well, according to what I saw.. I'd need to mess around a little with wpa_supplicant.
[07:38] <Yourname> poningru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo -> What do you think?
[07:38] <pestilence> crimsun, yes, that fixed it.  filing a bug as we speak
[07:38] <crimsun> pestilence: thanks.
[07:39] <poningru> Yourname: hold on
[07:39] <Jbirk> How do I troubleshoot ubuntu on a machine that  won't boot?
[07:40] <poningru> Yourname: ah here we go
[07:40] <poningru> so non-usb prism can do wap
[07:40] <pestilence> crimsun, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/whereami/+bug/67499
[07:40] <nwbreneman> crimsun: how do I find a pastebin that will take jpgs?
[07:40] <poningru> for usb its still being worked on
[07:40] <Yourname> poningru: There you go, you helped me 7 times. I helped you once.
[07:40] <crimsun> nwbreneman: Web search :)
[07:40] <poningru> ;)
[07:40] <Yourname> poningru: But.. but, mine is a USB adapter! lol
[07:41] <poningru> yeah I know :(
[07:41] <poningru> !java
[07:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> can someone save? my brainds just failed :| whats the command to remove services from init.d?
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo $command apmd and it removes it
[07:41] <pestilence> Kamping_Kaiser, update-rc.d
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay. *hugs pestilence *
[07:41] <poningru> ...
[07:42] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i have no idea what to look for
[07:42] <Yourname> poningru: So you think it won't work? :(
[07:42] <crimsun> pestilence: unfortunately the correct fix is really to fix the bashism. I'll look at it in a few hours.
[07:42] <poningru> Yourname: if it worked using driverloader then I would say you should try to use that instead of the 'official' method
[07:43] <Yourname> poningru: The only thing is, the driver works. The only problem is making it connect to a WPA network.
[07:43] <pestilence> crimsun, that's true.  but i'm not familiar enough with correct syntax for /bin/sh to fix it myself.
[07:43] <Em3rald> is there an official "supported hardware list"?
[07:43] <crimsun> nwbreneman: "pastebin jpg attachment"
[07:44] <poningru> Yourname: any reason you are using wpa? wep is plenty secure if you use big enough password
[07:44] <Yourname> poningru: Because 16 other connectors use WPA2 :S
[07:44] <poningru> sorry dude :(
[07:44] <Yourname> It's all good man. No worries.
[07:44] <Yourname> You helped me enough.
[07:44] <Yourname> Thanks a lot, doing a fresh install now.
[07:45] <nwbreneman> crimsun: here, i just uploaded it to my server. www.influenceme.net/screenshot.jpg
[07:45] <Yourname> Okie dokie, g'night mate.
[07:46] <poningru> nn
[07:46] <Hooveyy> Hey guys
[07:46] <Hooveyy> Can someone tell me what "sudo rw -r /" would do?
[07:46] <po0f> Nothing?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> rw isn't a command.
[07:46] <crimsun> thankfully not what you intend. :)
[07:47] <ArrenLex> You mean rm.
[07:47] <nwbreneman> heh
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Which would delete your entire filesystem.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> this = bad.
[07:47] <Hooveyy> I ran rm -r / under root
[07:47] <Hooveyy> By accident
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Good job!
[07:47] <Hooveyy> How do I fix it?
[07:47] <Hooveyy> GRUB wont load
[07:47] <DBO> you dont
[07:47] <Hooveyy> ;(
[07:47] <DBO> its gone
[07:47] <ArrenLex> By reinstalling.
[07:47] <pestilence> Hooveyy, with your carefully executed backup, of course
[07:47] <ArrenLex> How did you manage to run that command by accident?
[07:47] <crimsun> nwbreneman: ah, try increasing IGain
[07:48] <Hooveyy> I was pissing around in terminal with sudo su
[07:48] <Hooveyy> so I was logged in as root
[07:48] <Hooveyy> And I wanted to see what it did
[07:48] <DBO> Hooveyy, thats a bad idea...
[07:48] <Hooveyy> So I ran it,
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Well, now you know to use the bathroom rather than the terminal, don't you.
[07:48] <Hooveyy> And like, nothing would work
[07:48] <DBO> Hooveyy, its gone... sorry man
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Hooveyy: yeah, that's kind of what happens when you delete all files.
[07:48] <crimsun> nwbreneman: sorry, have to take a phone call now.
[07:48] <po0f> I'll actually try that later tonight, hehe.
[07:48] <Hooveyy> how was i supposed to know what rm - r / does!?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Do you know that rm is 'remove'?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> And that / is the root filesystem?
[07:49] <DBO> Hooveyy, asking here would have been a good way to find out
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Isn't that enough information to tip you off?
[07:49] <utnubu> when i do gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf i get a msg saying authentication was rejected,
[07:49] <utnubu> what am i doing wrong
[07:49] <nwbreneman> crimsun: no problem. I need to go now anyway. I'll fiddle with it later. thanks immensely for your help!
[07:49] <Hooveyy> Yeah
[07:49] <pestilence> utnubu, you are looking in the mirror
[07:49] <Hooveyy> I know what / is
[07:49] <Hooveyy> >_>
[07:49] <Hooveyy> Grr, now I have to reinstall
[07:49] <utnubu> oh
[07:50] <pestilence> utnubu, are you entering in your password?
[07:50] <utnubu> i am trying to share home folders with read/write access has authentication
[07:50] <ArrenLex> If you were like "oh, let's run a command which includes 'remove' and 'all my filesystem' as the administrator and hope NOTHING BAD HAPPENS! :D" then I'm sorry, there's just nothing we can do to help ypu.
[07:50] <utnubu> it dosnt ask for it, and then where in the line should i add it
[07:50] <Hooveyy> No, I didn't know what rm did
[07:50] <Hooveyy> As always, I tried it
[07:50] <Hooveyy> I once did a command that would restart x every second
[07:51] <pestilence> utnubu, when you type gksudo gedit, it is supposed to ask for your password
[07:51] <Jbirk> ) Hooveyy: ;
[07:51] <utnubu> no it dosnt ask for a passwd or anything
[07:51] <Jbirk> ) Hooveyy: ; um you could use man
[07:51] <Jbirk> P.s. never test a command with sudo in front of it
[07:51] <sky123> hi guys...i asked on edubuntu site too..but im tftp/pxe booting a thin client and used the rom-tool to create an etherboot disk..and get a no BIOS32 detected message...can someone helpout??
[07:51] <Jbirk> or from the # prompt
[07:51] <utnubu> do i haft to be root to do it
[07:51] <sky123> is it the wrong driver??
[07:52] <Hooveyy> Okay I also need help with something
[07:52] <Hooveyy> You know how like
[07:52] <Hooveyy> It's supposed to show install a LAMP server in the boot menu thing
[07:52] <pestilence> utnubu, try "sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[07:52] <Hooveyy> Well mine doesn't show that
[07:52] <Hooveyy> how do I install the Ubuntu Server?
[07:53] <utnubu> ya nano worked thank you very much
[07:53] <nocti> anybody knows a good video converter that recognizes the different formats of avi and for wmv, dvd support too. thanks.
[07:54] <jdt> nocti - install the codecs using automatix
[07:55] <jonathanmathew01>  /msg NETID password
[07:56] <Hooveyy> I'll ask my question again,
[07:56] <jdt> nocti - automatix should help you with your vid codecs
[07:57] <Hooveyy> So, I try installing Ubuntu, and I want to install Ubuntu Server, so, it says there should be an option called "INSTALL LAMP SERVER", but on mine there isn't
[07:57] <Hooveyy> How would I install the Ubuntu Server?
[07:57] <jdt> Did you use the server iso?
[07:57] <Hooveyy> There isn't one :S
[07:57] <NewTrickster> yes there is.
[07:57] <Hooveyy> Link?
[07:58] <Hooveyy> The server download link links to the page with the main ISOs.
[07:58] <NewTrickster> On the main site
[07:58] <Hooveyy> It links to http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:58] <Hooveyy> Ohh
[07:58] <NewTrickster>  your options to download are:desktop, server and alternate
[07:58] <Hooveyy> Nevermind, found it :D
[07:58] <NewTrickster> you should have all three.
[07:58] <jdt> I have never installed the -server iso, but there is one in the download mirrors. it is ubuntu-version-server or desktop etc
[07:59] <Hooveyy> Yeah - downloading the ISO for the server now
[07:59] <Hooveyy> Thanks
[08:00] <jdt> anyway - LAMP should be Linux Apache MySQL and Python... hehe
[08:00] <NewTrickster> Are you trying to make a LAMP sever?
[08:00] <Hooveyy> Now I am, yes
[08:00] <NewTrickster> I'd start with server.
[08:00] <NewTrickster> I'm doing something similar; however , I'm using desktop and putting LAMP on that
[08:01] <Hooveyy> Why is the server ISO 432MB only?
[08:01] <Hooveyy> Also, can I order server CDs from ubuntu?
[08:01] <NewTrickster> so I can have the destop in place to do work on it.
[08:01] <jdt> server iso has less desktopy stuff
[08:01] <NewTrickster> None of the graphical apps,  I assume
[08:01] <rredd4> i read somewhere that there is not a much control with lamp as there is with the server install
[08:01] <Hooveyy> Heh, okay
[08:01] <Hooveyy> So I have to manually get X, etc?
[08:01] <cypher1_> how do i get the brightness controls in System->Preferences->Power Management
[08:02] <NewTrickster> yeah,  that's why I decieded on. the Desktop & LAMP path
[08:02] <jdt> your best bet would be to install the desktop version, then just use synaptic in gnome to select Apache, MySQL and PHP. then you will basically have a LAMP server (some config required)
[08:02] <NewTrickster> Otherwise you have to put Gnome on and all the apps that you want.
[08:03] <Hooveyy> jdt: no,
[08:03] <Hooveyy> I tried that
[08:03] <Hooveyy> MYSQL failed
[08:03] <Hooveyy> And 2 hours of googling, config-ing, and more didn't help.
[08:03] <NewTrickster> MYSQL fails often upon install in most OS's.
[08:03] <Hooveyy> Ah,
[08:03] <Hooveyy> Doesn't on Windows :p
[08:03] <NewTrickster> You have to work at getting it to work.
[08:03] <Hooveyy> the server ISO is 30% done anyways
[08:03] <Hooveyy> 800KB/S download rate
[08:04] <jdt> thus the - some config required statement :)  I am sure it is the same on server with LAMP option
[08:04] <NewTrickster>  I've made a WAMP server for a demo a couple of years ago and it worked just great.
[08:04] <po0f> From a server install, can't you just `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`?
[08:04] <Hooveyy> yes
[08:04] <Hooveyy> and it'll install gnome
[08:04] <Hooveyy> kubuntu-desktop installs kde, xubuntu-desktop installs xfce I think
[08:04] <Hooveyy> is there an edubuntu-desktop?
[08:05] <NewTrickster>  Hooveyy: Yes he is correct, but mine didn't work when I tried it.
[08:05] <manmadha> Hooveyy, ya it is easyubuntu
[08:05] <chuckyp> Don't use easyubuntu
[08:05] <Hooveyy> Why?
[08:05] <Hooveyy> :p
[08:05] <chuckyp> !easyubuntu
[08:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:05] <ZirJoker> hi everybody
[08:06] <rredd4> i install ubuntu-desktop.. getting slocate errors... cannot seem to fix..
[08:06] <ZirJoker> i wanna know if there is a command that allows me to download a file
[08:06] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, use at your own risk don't come crying here when it breaks stuff that you could have installed a lot easier with synaptic
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Whoa, that's so cool.
[08:06] <po0f> wget?
[08:06] <NewTrickster> I still think Desktop & LAMP is the best choice here, I have asked on some other boards and gotten the same response.
[08:06] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, wget
[08:06] <manmadha> ZirJoker, wget
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Wait, easyubuntu breaks things?
[08:06] <ZirJoker> :O
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Boo.
[08:06] <ZirJoker> thx
[08:06] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, wget http://www.whatever.com/filetodownload
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Aptitude is so easy.
[08:06] <po0f> Hooveyy: Anything that goes behind your back to install stuff breaks things.  ;)
[08:06] <ZirJoker> thx
[08:07] <yakumo> hello
[08:07] <NewTrickster> Don't know about Easy, but desktop just didn't work well, mine was partially broke.
[08:07] <ANTDx1> hello everyone
[08:07] <Vaske_Car> How to install java?
[08:07] <yakumo> any idea what is this error all about?
[08:07] <yakumo> files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[08:07] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:07] <jdt> what version of java ???
[08:07] <Vaske_Car> new
[08:07] <jdt> sun java?
[08:07] <ANTDx1> I'm having some issues upgrading to 6.10
[08:07] <Vaske_Car> is there 2?
[08:08] <NewTrickster> Hooveyy:  Good Luck with your server,  I'm headed off to bed have to be in Chicago tomorrow.
[08:08] <jdt> yes, there are many variants - the default in ubuntu is blackdown
[08:08] <ANTDx1> Upgrading went fine, until I restarted.  My GUI no longer appears to be working.
[08:08] <chuckyp> ANTDx1, edgy support is in #ubuntu-1
[08:08] <Hooveyy> Thanks new,
[08:08] <manmadha> is there any advantage using FreeBsd for server administration .....
[08:08] <Hooveyy> Have fun in chicago,
[08:08] <NewTrickster> NITE
[08:08] <chuckyp> ANTDx1, err #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> what should I install than? It ask for Mozilla that I need java...
[08:08] <jdt> Vaske_Car - what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:08] <ZirJoker> does anyone knows where can i get rapidly the "nexiuz" game?
[08:08] <ANTDx1> thank you, chuckyp
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> 6.06
[08:08] <AdamKili> my Windows key doesn't seem to do anything. how can i test that ubuntu even knows it's there?
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> updated
[08:08] <jonathanmathew01> has anyone ever converted an ATX power supply into a non-atx.. i have a dell pen3 that i am trying to make into a server but the old power supply went down, and the only thing i can get here is ATX
[08:08] <chuckyp> !info nexiuz
[08:09] <ubotu> Package nexiuz does not exist in any distro I know
[08:09] <Hooveyy> yay, 60% done for the ubuntu server cd.
[08:09] <rredd4> crimsun  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/    everything i tried does not work.. any ideas please
[08:09] <ginyip> hi everyone, I looking for help on fglrx issues. I am using 64bit ubuntu dapper. I use the newest ATI 8.29.6 driver for my ATI X1600 graphic card. Now my X can start, everything seem fine. BUT when I try to fglrxinfor / glxinfo | grep render, I see my graphic card X1600 show up and direct rendering = yes. but then my whole system freeze. I need to do a hard reset to reboot my system. Looking for help on this pls help
[08:09] <jdt> Vaske_Car: Check out www.getautomatix.com
[08:09] <manmadha> is there any advantage using FreeBsd for server administration .....
[08:09] <chuckyp> jonathanmathew01, You can still buy AT power supplies
[08:09] <chuckyp> !patience > manmadha
[08:09] <ZirJoker> as far as i know i can play it in my ubuntu isnt it true?
[08:10] <jdt> It is a great app to install some very useful apps for ubuntu. Including Sun Java 1.5 JRE and JDK.
[08:10] <jdt> It has versions for 6.06 and 6.10 - so make sure you pick the correct one
[08:10] <Vaske_Car> jdt, was just startd typing question about that software :)
[08:10] <chuckyp> No AUTOMATIX IS THE DEVIL
[08:10] <chuckyp> !automatix
[08:10] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[08:10] <jdt> I have used it a lot - works very well :)
[08:11] <ZirJoker> xd
[08:11] <ZirJoker> xD
[08:11] <jdt> oops
[08:11] <ZirJoker> its for novices like me xD
[08:11] <jdt> :)
[08:11] <ZirJoker> dows anyone plays nexiuz in his ubuntu?
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> easyubuntu is more widely accepted, and not thought of as evil, like automatix
[08:11] <Hooveyy> Automatix IS the devil.
[08:11] <AdamKili> how can i test if ubuntu knows my windows key is there? i want to assign the command 3ddesk to it
[08:11] <chuckyp> jdt, well I've seen it break a lot of stuff alos
[08:12] <jdt> automatix hasnt ever broken anything for me - and its certainly a fast way to get sun java installed.
[08:12] <Hooveyy> EasyUbuntu isn't so ..... system-borking.
[08:12] <chuckyp> Both easyubuntu and automatix are just bad ideas.
[08:12] <Hooveyy> Well, they're good for the world's biggest 5 year old noobs
[08:12] <ZirJoker> does anyone plays nexiuz in his ubuntu??
[08:12] <chuckyp> jdt, How do you figure ?  Its just a package either way?  I don't see the benefit?
[08:12] <Hooveyy> My friend booted into a Ubuntu LiveCD and went nuts because his window borders look different.
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, it does... it's called the Super Key, by the way
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> freak
[08:13] <manmadha> ZirJoker, ya i tried it but the game is strucking while playing
[08:13] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy: how can i test? and in this guide i got it calls it Super_L
[08:13] <jdt> chuckyp: agreed - but for codecs, etc etc... its just a convenient 'get everything working' script. it is afterall just a script to a few extra repos at the end of the day
[08:13] <po0f> Which system-killer command should I use tonight?
[08:13] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, that makes sense, super left
[08:13] <manmadha> po0f, i think xkill
[08:14] <manmadha> po0f, try it
[08:14] <ZirJoker> manmadha where did you get it?
[08:14] <Hooveyy> server cd done downloading
[08:14] <chuckyp> jdt, codecs are a one line install for me  so I don't get it.
[08:14] <AdamKili> but i only have 1 win key so should i just leave off the _L?
[08:14] <manmadha> ZirJoker, google is u r friend man
[08:14] <jdt> provided you know where they are
[08:14] <po0f> No, I mean I want to kill my system.  I am going to do a reinstall ina  couple of hours.
[08:14] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, You can get it from their site Looks pretty cool i'm going to get it also
[08:14] <ZirJoker> xDDD
[08:14] <ZirJoker> nice nice
[08:14] <manmadha> po0f, oh sorry
[08:14] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[08:14] <DeusX> Hey guys. How do I use the fglrx for my ATI 7000 card ? Every time I do that my X crashes on boot, and cannot be loaded.
[08:14] <ZirJoker> manmadha do i need to compile it or something?
[08:14] <chuckyp> po0f, Why whats wrong with your system
[08:15] <manmadha> i think u r going to kill the process
[08:15] <nDi> What is hd(0,0), hd(0,1), hd(0,2), hd(1,1) .. how do i know, which one is for Windows XP ?
[08:15] <reverie> Hi guys.
[08:15] <po0f> FC5 is on it atm, going to reinstall Edgy.
[08:15] <reverie> Can someone help me with a problem with booting Edgy Eft RC1 ?
[08:15] <po0f> FC6 is taking to long to release.
[08:15] <po0f> s/to/too/
[08:15] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy i only have one windows key so should i leave off the _L?
[08:15] <manmadha> ZirJoker, ya just comple it ...to run the game just click on the icon....
[08:15] <chuckyp> reverie, edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, doubtful.
[08:15] <DeusX> Someone else had my problem ?
[08:15] <ZirJoker> ok :P
[08:16] <chuckyp> manmadha, well compiling it won't install an icon
[08:16] <snoops> nDi, hd(drivechannel,partition).. so hd(0,0) is the first drive and the first partition on that drive
[08:16] <reverie> chuckyp, ah, ta ;)
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> reverie, do you like Debussy?
[08:16] <ZirJoker> lets see if i can compile it xD im using ubuntu since past wednesday xDDD
[08:16] <snoops> go by the size of the partition to figure out which is which nDi
[08:16] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, compiling it won't create an icon for you.
[08:16] <reverie> BHSPitLappy, ha ha :P
[08:16] <ZirJoker> how do i create an icon for it?
[08:16] <ZirJoker> (sorry for my bad english)
[08:16] <manmadha> chuckyp, yaa I am saying that there is a file in the directory of the game
[08:17] <Hooveyy> why does installing ubuntu server take like 1 hour?
[08:17] <nDi> snoops drive channel, as in master/slave primary/secondary ?
[08:17] <Hooveyy> there's like 50 steps
[08:17] <Hooveyy> -_-
[08:17] <chuckyp> manmadha, any good?
[08:17] <manmadha> to open the game just click on it& select run in terminal
[08:17] <snoops> yep nDi
[08:17] <ZirJoker> :O
[08:17] <mehwoot> I need some help getting my nVidia drivers to work
[08:17] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy: i guess i'll try _L and _R and see which works
[08:17] <ZirJoker> is there any comand to test my internet speed?
[08:18] <abc_austin> a
[08:18] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, the Right one may be the "menu" iconned one
[08:18] <manmadha> go to www.vcn.com
[08:18] <abc_austin> exit
[08:18] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, you just unzip it and launch the nexuiz-linux   file
[08:18] <nDi> snoops I have C: and D: (Both same HDD, different partition) .. so , C: = hd(0,0) and D: = hd(0,1) .. OR does it start with hd(0,1) ?
[08:18] <manmadha> ZirJoker, www.vcn.com/speedtest.php
[08:18] <ZirJoker> ok
[08:18] <ZirJoker> thx thx
[08:18] <ZirJoker> xD
[08:19] <ZirJoker> i love that everybody helps you when you have troubles o.o
[08:19] <Hooveyy> I love VMWare :)
[08:19] <reverie> Corporal_Dirge, haha, cool nick mate
[08:19] <manmadha> ZirJoker, just copy the user name & password given in that site
[08:19] <manmadha> as guest
[08:19] <Hooveyy> ZirJoker: Yeah, it confuses me alot though, 20 people rush in here at once asking questions like once every ten minutes :p
[08:19] <ZirJoker> xDDDDDD
[08:19] <po0f> Hooveyy: How hard is it to set up?
[08:20] <Hooveyy> It's not, it's like, just being slow.
[08:20] <jdt> vmware is pretty straight forward
[08:20] <Hooveyy> Yeah
[08:20] <Hooveyy> I muck around with it alot
[08:20] <Elvis2001> help
[08:20] <Hooveyy> That way it doesn't kill my PC
[08:20] <Hooveyy> Yes Elvis2001?
[08:20] <jdt> haha... run vmware the other way round - I keep my xp in it and run ubuntu most of the time.
[08:21] <jdt> only windows when I have too
[08:21] <Hooveyy> Haha :p
[08:21] <ZirJoker> anyother fps game you recommend??
[08:21] <Hooveyy> CS: S
[08:21] <Hooveyy> DOD: S?
[08:21] <nDi> snoops I have C: and D: (Both same HDD, different partition) .. so , C: = hd(0,0) and D: = hd(0,1) .. OR does it start with hd(0,1) ?
[08:21] <po0f> nDi: What's the problem?
[08:22] <snoops> it's 0 based.. so 0,0 are the first.. but windows drive letters c: and d: do not corolate to what drive channel they're on
[08:22] <Hooveyy> yay, done installing the server.
[08:22] <ZirJoker> anyother fps game you recommend??
[08:22] <ZirJoker> or not fps..
[08:23] <Hooveyy> Uh,
[08:23] <ZirJoker> just anyother game
[08:23] <ZirJoker> xD
[08:23] <ZirJoker> another*
[08:23] <Hooveyy> WoW, WC3, Guild Wars, COD2, Quake 4
[08:23] <Hooveyy> FEAR, Diablo 2?
[08:23] <ZirJoker> which of them are free?
[08:23] <po0f> StarCraft ftw.
[08:23] <Hooveyy> Well none
[08:23] <Himura> games are evil
[08:23] <ZirJoker> xDDDDD
[08:23] <ZirJoker> !games
[08:23] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:23] <Hooveyy> Games are addictive.
[08:24] <rredd4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/  getting slocate errors, will not finish installing ubuntu-desktop... help!
[08:24] <sky123> does anyone have experience here with thin client for ubuntu??
[08:24] <Hooveyy> Cedega ftw!
[08:24] <ZirJoker> ftw?
[08:24] <Hooveyy> for the win.
[08:24] <ZirJoker> ooh
[08:24] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[08:25] <hintswen> can someone please help me downoad and install apache
[08:25] <ZirJoker> tremulous anyone has tried it?
[08:25] <Hooveyy> Holy crap, I'm about to have a seizure here.
[08:25] <DeusX> hintswen, aptitude install apache2 will do the job for ya
[08:26] <Hooveyy> I typed apt-get ubuntu-desktop and like, 900 things came up
[08:26] <amicrawle> does ubnutu have webmin in the src list at all
[08:26] <rredd4> Hooveyy  852 for me..
[08:26] <hintswen> DeusX, thanks. what about PHP and MySQL and other things. any easy way to download and install them?
[08:26] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, CUBE2
[08:26] <ZirJoker> :O
[08:26] <Hooveyy> What will sudo rm -Rf * do ?
[08:26] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, counter-strike
[08:26] <ZirJoker> instead of tremulous?
[08:27] <ink251> clear all unneeded files
[08:27] <ZirJoker> counter strike... no steam version?
[08:27] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, remove everything
[08:27] <DeusX> hintswen, yes. aptitude install php5 and aptitude install mysql-server-5.0
[08:27] <Hooveyy> Ah, okay
[08:27] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, yeah
[08:27] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy: Super, Super_L, and Super_R don't work. but i tested <Control>a and it worked, so my windows key must not be recognised as Super_L/R
[08:27] <po0f> ink251: lol
[08:27] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, I have steam installed
[08:27] <nDi> snoops i was just wondering, just incase I have to configure the grub or lilo manually.
[08:27] <ZirJoker> bet you have to pay to play steam installed
[08:27] <hintswen> wow, if i knew it was so simple i would have done it ages ago
[08:27] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, no free
[08:28] <ink251> you guys have any luck with steam on wine?
[08:28] <ZirJoker> no free, or not, free?
[08:28] <chuckyp> ZirJoker,  You can run steam with wine if you have an account.
[08:28] <hintswen> DeusX, they will autostart whenever the server starts up right?
[08:28] <ZirJoker> i dont
[08:28] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, It doesn't cost anything to run under linux however you have to buy counter-strike if you want to play counter-strike
[08:28] <ink251> it worked last time i installed it but this time around it crashes with some memory permission error
[08:28] <chuckyp> ink251, Yeah I have it working here fine
[08:28] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, you've tried the keyboard shortcuts preferences in GNOME, right?
[08:28] <ZirJoker> yes thats what im talking about
[08:28] <DeusX> hintswen, don't forget to do a aptitude install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql and a aptitude install php5-mysql to have MySQL support for PHP
[08:28] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts?
[08:29] <ink251> unreal99 works better on wine then on windows
[08:29] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, well you are looking for free games
[08:29] <DeusX> hintswen, yes, they will run on system startup.
[08:29] <ZirJoker> yes
[08:29] <chuckyp> ink251, unreal has linux versions on the cd
[08:29] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, my "windows key" is Super_L, according to that
[08:29] <hintswen> great XD
[08:29] <ink251> i have a copy a friend sent me
[08:29] <ink251> didnt bother with linux
[08:29] <ink251> version
[08:29] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, I just checked out cube today  its pretty neat fps dunno didn't get much of a chance to play a lot.  But www.cubeengine.com
[08:30] <dek> how do I delete console history?
[08:30] <ZirJoker> thx thx
[08:30] <DeusX> hintswen, this guide will give you more info:  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[08:30] <Hooveyy> Does apt-get install ubuntu-desktop install X?
[08:30] <ink251> delete .bash_history
[08:30] <chuckyp> ink251, yeah the linux version will run an arseload faster than running the windows one through wine.
[08:30] <po0f> dek: rm ~/.bash_history
[08:30] <ink251> in your come folder
[08:30] <dek> thanks
[08:30] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy which shortcut is it under?
[08:30] <ink251> home
[08:30] <ink251> ill check it out
[08:30] <ink251> i love scrapetorrent.com
[08:31] <chuckyp> So does anyone actually play nexuiz?
[08:31] <chuckyp> Online that is
[08:31] <ZirJoker> ok ppl
[08:31] <ZirJoker> im gonna sleep
[08:31] <ZirJoker> im too tired
[08:31] <Hooveyy> cyaaa
[08:31] <ZirJoker> x_x
[08:31] <ZirJoker> thx for the gelp
[08:31] <ZirJoker> help*
[08:31] <ZirJoker> ciao!
[08:31] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, just pick one of the items, and hit your button
[08:32] <chuckyp> ink251, scrapetorrent has a server error
[08:32] <ink251> yeah the cat
[08:32] <dek> when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1, how do I come back? "startx"?
[08:32] <ink251> i had that for a second
[08:32] <ink251> it just started working again
[08:33] <po0f> dek: Alt+F7
[08:33] <ArrenLex> ink: ctrl+alt+f7.
[08:33] <po0f> Usually.
[08:33] <dek> so what does Ctrl+Alt+F1 do exactly?
[08:33] <ArrenLex> ink: x is usually on Virtual Terminal 7.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Unless you disable some terms.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> dek: it switches you to the first virtual terminal.
[08:33] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy doesn't do anything
[08:33] <dek> :O
[08:33] <ArrenLex> dek: by default, ubuntu offers six command lines available to you.
[08:33] <po0f> From the terminal, you don't have to hit ctrl to vt-switch.
[08:34] <ink251> how would i go about having a different wallpaper for every virtual desktop
[08:34] <dek> ok
[08:34] <ArrenLex> po0f: no, but the consistency is nice. You only have to memorise one operation, not two.
[08:34] <chuckyp> ink251, each workspace you mean?
[08:34] <ink251> yeah
[08:34] <ink251> my bad
[08:34] <Hooveyy> http://hohle.net/scrap_post.php?post=23
[08:34] <Hooveyy> roflmao
[08:35] <po0f> ArrenLex: ctrl-alt-f7 hurts my hand, alt-f7 is a lot better.  :)
[08:35] <BHSPitLappy> ink251, not sure if you can
[08:35] <ArrenLex> po0f: then you have extremely gimpy hands. o_O
[08:35] <BHSPitLappy> but I'm no expert at gnome at all
[08:35] <ArrenLex> po0f: OH! You're trying to do it one-handed!!
[08:35] <ArrenLex> No wonder.
[08:35] <po0f> ArrenLex: Yes,  ;)
[08:35] <Jay2> ink251: I don't think you can
[08:35] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy it doesn't do anything, so i guess linux doesn't recognize my super key?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> po0f: I won't even begin to ask what you need your other hand for when switching virtual terminals, as I don't want to know.
[08:35] <ink251> oh ok just a though
[08:35] <chuckyp> ink251, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69507
[08:35] <ink251> heh
[08:36] <chuckyp> Jay2, sure you can
[08:36] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, perhaps not?
[08:36] <po0f> ArrenLex: On my...  mouse.
[08:36] <Jay2> how, chuckyp
[08:36] <ArrenLex> po0f: why the hell do you need your mouse when switching to or from a command line interface?
[08:36] <ink251> chucky, thanks for the link
[08:36] <chuckyp> Jay2, there is software that does it like wallpapoz
[08:37] <ink251> what do you guys think of edgy, im using 6.06 right now, big changes?
[08:37] <po0f> ArrenLex: When switching back to X, I like to be ready to go, as I only go to the console to change something real quick most of the time.
[08:37] <Jay2> thanks, chuckyp
[08:37] <chuckyp> ink251, check out the edgy page they have the changes outlined
[08:37] <ArrenLex> po0f: on my machine at least, the time between pressing the keystrokes and X being up and running is greater than the time to move from keyboard to mouse.
[08:38] <chuckyp> ink251, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:38] <ArrenLex> About three times as great, actually.
[08:39] <po0f> ArrenLex: Sorry I try to keep my hand movements to a minimum.  :/
[08:39] <ArrenLex> (00:36:02) ArrenLex: po0f: then you have extremely gimpy hands. o_O
[08:39] <snoops> anyone? Adjusting screen brightness in ubuntu?
[08:39] <po0f> snoops: nvidia-settings?
[08:39] <snoops> po0f no brightness control in nvidia-settings
[08:40] <po0f> meh.
[08:40] <ArrenLex> po0f: hold on, wait. Are you telling me that you type in the terminal one-handed? Because if you don't, then you still have to move from keyboard to mouse anyway. Just earlier.
[08:41] <Hooveyy> ubuntu-desktop is dun installing, woot
[08:41] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, what hardware are you installing on?
[08:41] <Jbirk> did you install xserver-xorg?
[08:41] <Hooveyy> Uh,
[08:41] <po0f> ArrenLex: Like I said earlier, usually I just change something real quick, and want to get back to work right away.
[08:41] <upgrdman> what repo do i need to get w32codecs for mplayer?
[08:41] <Hooveyy> 3.4GHZ P4, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, nVidia 6600GT
[08:42] <Hooveyy> In vmware, though
[08:42] <chuckyp> !info w32codecs
[08:42] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:42] <po0f> So, I just sudo rm -rf /...  let's see how long my box will stay up.
[08:42] <Jbirk> i,
[08:42] <Hooveyy> omfg you nub
[08:42] <Jbirk> ytu yjod
[08:42] <chuckyp> upgrdman, if you follow the directions in the wiki you actually wget the deb
[08:42] <Hooveyy> type sudo rm -r /
[08:42] <Jbirk> here
[08:42] <po0f> My wallpaper's gone, lol.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> po0f: I tried that once =P It doesn't crash. You just stop being able to open new things.
[08:42] <chuckyp> !w32codecs > upgrdman
[08:42] <snoops> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display. Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. Unable to determine nmber of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0.'. Are some errors which are displayed when I open nvidia-settings from terminal po0f..any idea?
[08:42] <Jbirk> Hoovyy
[08:42] <Hooveyy> Arren: try rebooting though
[08:42] <Hooveyy> GRUB borks
[08:42] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy any idea how to fix that?
[08:42] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, stop it.
[08:42] <Jbirk> sudo rm -rf /*
[08:43] <Hooveyy> Stop what?
[08:43] <po0f> Hooveyy: That's kinda the point in my case.
[08:43] <Jbirk> or just go into /
[08:43] <hintswen> dam, do i have to use port 80 for hosting a website?
[08:43] <Jbirk> and rm -rf*
[08:43] <Hooveyy> sudo rm -r / is better
[08:43] <po0f> I am reinstalling Edgy tonight.
[08:43] <Jbirk> f for force
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Hooveyy: well, of course, since you deleted everything. But it doesn't CRASH as you run the command.
[08:43] <Hooveyy> ah, yeah
[08:43] <Jbirk> My room mate is a moron
[08:43] <Hooveyy> yeah arren
[08:43] <ArrenLex> You'd have to reboot or try using something to notice a change.
[08:43] <Jbirk> He went to my computer and logged in
[08:43] <Jbirk> he did
[08:43] <Hooveyy> i told my friend to run deltree C: or somethign I found on his windows box
[08:43] <po0f> Everything stays cached, but for how long?
[08:43] <Jbirk> rm -rf /
[08:43] <Hooveyy> he got pwned
[08:43] <Jbirk> Only problem is, he wasn't logged in as root
[08:43] <po0f> Only time will tell!!
[08:43] <Jbirk> all his shit is gone
[08:43] <Jbirk> I am just fine
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> why'd he do it
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> spite?
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Masochism?
[08:44] <Jbirk> yeah
[08:44] <Hooveyy> cos he's a nub
[08:44] <Jbirk> but it deleted his account
[08:44] <DBO> gents, we are getting a little off topic
[08:44] <Hooveyy> who cares dbo :p
[08:44] <DBO> i do
[08:44] <snoops> oh, question.. does ubuntu log you in as root when you boot into safe mode WITHOUT asking for any passwords.. it's an incredible security problem.
[08:44] <snoops> why does*
[08:44] <upgrdman> chuckyp: thank you
[08:44] <DBO> we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that Hooveyy
[08:44] <BHSPitLappy> /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <Hooveyy> I don't think so snoops
[08:45] <reverie> Buffer I/O error on device /dev/hdc when booting Ubuntu live cd
[08:45] <DBO> snoops, because having local access might as well give you root
[08:45] <reverie> any ideas?
[08:45] <Hooveyy> If you want to login as root try sudo startx once you're logged in in the non x interface
[08:45] <AdamKili> people, any idea how to get linux to regonise my windows/super key? i'm positive it's not being recognised right now
[08:45] <reverie> the cd is fine
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> snoops, how is it a security problem
[08:45] <Jbirk> no idea
[08:45] <Jbirk> just try crtrl and alt
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> snoops, anyone who's physically standing before your computer, has infinite access to anything on it. period.
[08:45] <ArrenLex> AdamKill: does xev spit you out a keycode when you press it?
[08:45] <BHSPitLappy> all they have to do is pop in a livecd if they wanted to spy or destroy you.
[08:46] <po0f> lol, I'm getting blank error dialogs anytime I try to do something.
[08:46] <snoops> BHSPitLappy :/
[08:46] <DBO> snoops, its the crazy world we live in =)
[08:46] <defrysk> livecd = also kill cd
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> ha.
[08:46] <starsky_hutchy> DBO, are we living in crazy world ? :/
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> yep
[08:46] <DBO> yes
[08:46] <PsychoMonkey> It is pretty crazy when you think about it
[08:47] <Hooveyy> What would happen if you ran sudo rm -Rf / on the livecd?
[08:47] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: does xev spit you out a keycode when you press it?
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> Hooveyy, nothing, because that filesystem is read-only.
[08:47] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: whats xev?
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> if you mounted the hard drive, and deleted everything...
[08:47] <starsky_hutchy> Hooveyy, nothing since it's mounted ro
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> or formatted it
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> or repartitioned/reformatted it
[08:47] <BHSPitLappy> or etc
[08:48] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: it's a utility which tells you about events that x has recognised, like key presses or mouse moves. Run it from the terminal. Move your mouse to the white box that pops up. Press your win key and watch the command line. It should tell you a KeyPress and KeyRelease with a keycode.
[08:48] <BHSPitLappy> it's always possible to destroy; it can be made harder to go in and READ stuff, but it's still always possible
[08:48] <cooner750> What is used to show the boot splash screen in Ubuntu? I am using Splashy on Debian, but it does not start soon enough. I noticed that whatever is used in Ubuntu, starts right after "Loading the kernel.... OK"
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Write this keycode down.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: if it doesn't generate any event, then the kernel doesn't know how to handle that key, in which case you must jump through extra hoops to make it work.
[08:49] <{_-IcE-_}> can someone help me with dovecot pls? cant manage to get it to work well... any user/pass i try it says is invalid
[08:49] <Jbirk> I just had a zombie process kill itself
[08:49] <Jbirk> any ideas how that happened
[08:49] <Jbirk> I had a totem <defunt>
[08:49] <ArrenLex> Suicidal zombies? Oh, the paradoxes!
[08:49] <DBO> zombies are collected by init
[08:50] <DBO> once the parent process is gone
[08:50] <Hooveyy> what is /etc/ssl/certs?
[08:50] <DBO> init inherits it and closes it
[08:50] <Hooveyy> whatever it is is taking a long time to setup
[08:50] <ArrenLex> A folder.
[08:50] <Jbirk> I C
[08:50] <Jbirk> how can I find a parent
[08:50] <po0f> The parent process dies, leaving a child;  this is called a zombie.
[08:51] <ArrenLex> So sad. ;_;
[08:51] <po0f> :*(
[08:51] <DBO> actually you got it kinda backwards
[08:51] <rob> poor orphan child
[08:51] <DBO> the child dies and the parent doesnt collect the remains
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Nooo ;___;
[08:51] <DBO> those remains are a zombie
[08:51] <starsky_hutchy> Jbirk, pstree will reveal the process hierarchy.
[08:52] <po0f> DBO: In either case, nothing a reboot can't fix.
[08:52] <Hooveyy> I call PCs with rootkits zombies :)
[08:52] <quandar> has anyone tried the new Glade? its nice
[08:52] <Hooveyy> OFFTOPIC
[08:52] <crimsun> rredd4: sorry, I've been on the phone. Do you still need me to look?
[08:52] <DBO> po0f, or killing the parent process
[08:52] <quandar> Hooveyy: ALLCAPS
[08:52] <starsky_hutchy> Hooveyy, that's backdoors.
[08:52] <rredd4> crimsun if you can please... thanks
[08:53] <Jbirk> can't I just kill init?
[08:53] <rredd4>   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/
[08:53] <AdamKili> ArrenLex, sorry ubuntu's going slow 4 some reason. xev doesn't record anything when i press the windows/super key
[08:54] <cooner750> Anyone?
[08:54] <starsky_hutchy> Jbirk, i suppose you can't kill init, it spawns every other process in Gnu/Linux. :)
[08:54] <po0f> Does the live cd have irssi?
[08:54] <crimsun> rredd4: are you dist-upgrading? if so, from what to what?
[08:54] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: do you know about virtual terminals?
[08:54] <starsky_hutchy> Jbirk, in other words it's parent of all the process.
[08:54] <rredd4> crimsun  dapper to edgy rc...
[08:55] <Jbirk> hum
[08:55] <Jbirk> I C
[08:55] <Jbirk> what about FreeBSD
[08:55] <Jbirk> it doesn't even have init does it?
[08:55] <Hooveyy> FreeBSD is hard to freakin use
[08:55] <Jbirk> why does linux need init?
[08:55] <Hooveyy> I like Slackware :)
[08:55] <Jbirk> can't they do without
[08:55] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: no
[08:55] <crimsun> rredd4: are you using the dist-upgrader?
[08:55] <chimaera> hi. i'm having problems with my touchpad (PB 12", post-feb05). i'm using the appletouch/synaptics drivers and get very choppy/jumping/skipping input. very erratic, barley usable. any ideas how to get around this?
[08:55] <Jbirk> I heard good things about slack 10.1
[08:55] <Jbirk> I guess I should reboot
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Is Ubuntu debian based?
[08:56] <crimsun> Hooveyy: yes.
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Or did they like compile their own thing?
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Ah
[08:56] <crimsun> "their own thing"?
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Linux kernel
[08:56] <rredd4> crimsun i typed this        gksudo "update-manager -c -d"   which lead me to synaptic and later it said that i did not have ubuntu-desktop so i installed it and got the slocate error
[08:57] <crimsun> yes, we have different kernel configurations and a different set of kernel patches
[08:57] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: you really should learn about them; they're crazy useful =P but it doesn't matter.
[08:57] <Hooveyy> Is it hard to compile your own linux kernel, and make your own repos, etc?
[08:57] <Hooveyy> Basically just making your own distro
[08:57] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: will they help me get my Win key working?
[08:57] <Hooveyy> That isn't based off of anything
[08:57] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: do this: dmesg  | grep setkey | tail -1
[08:57] <Jbirk> hehe
[08:57] <Jbirk> I cleared my zombie
[08:57] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: no, you don't need them.
[08:57] <Jbirk> umount /dev/hdc
[08:58] <Jbirk> that took care of it
[08:58] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: paste the result of that. Should be one line.
[08:58] <Jbirk> it said there was no process
[08:58] <baconbacon> Hooveyy: Ubuntu is based on Debian but has its own packages and repositories
[08:59] <Jbirk> isn't debian better?
[08:59] <Jbirk> just kidding
[08:59] <Jbirk> what is the difference?
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Debian owns you. *nod*
[08:59] <Jbirk> who owns linux?
[08:59] <rredd4> Jbirk  ubuntu is updated more!!  bleeding edge!
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: ubuntu is basically debian where packages are released even if they don't compile on SPARC computers =P
[08:59] <crimsun> rredd4: you should be able to work around it temporarily by allowing ubuntu-desktop to be uninstalled (as long as doing so doesn't remove all other packages, ~400 MB worth), then you can continue without install slocate
[09:00] <ArrenLex> rredd4: actually, you will find that the packages in debian testing are almost always newer than dapper's packages.
[09:00] <crimsun> rredd4: after that completes, you can then reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <starsky_hutchy> !Linux
[09:00] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: the trademark? Torvalds.
[09:00] <starsky_hutchy> !Ubuntu
[09:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:00] <rredd4> crimsun  so do a apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[09:00] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: hellooo?
[09:01] <baconbacon> Jbirk: Linux is copyright Linus Torvalds and all the contributors, it is released under the GPL licence, and is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
[09:01] <crimsun> rredd4: yes
[09:01] <rredd4> l
[09:01] <rredd4> k
[09:01] <rredd4> ty
[09:01] <Jay2> anyone have any experience with any Ubuntu compatible business software, I'm looking for something to replace Quickbooks
[09:02] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: brb hold on
[09:03] <rredd4> crimsun  i am shocked how fast it was uninstalled, 62259 files and directories currently installed.   the download was 852 files...
[09:04] <Hooveyy> I think my PC bit the dust.
[09:04] <crimsun> rredd4: sorry, I misunderstand you?
[09:04] <Hooveyy> I loaded Ubuntu in VMWare, and started X, and clicked on the menu and my PC froze :\
[09:04] <BHSPitLappy> the host or the vm?
[09:04] <Hooveyy> Both
[09:05] <rredd4> crimsun  when i downloaded ubuntu-desktop, it was 852 files.  when i apt get removed ubuntu-desktop, it did it extremely fast.  seems strange that it would be so fast...
[09:05] <crimsun> rredd4: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage used to smooth dist-upgrades
[09:06] <Hooveyy> When you install something it dls the files
[09:06] <rredd4> ok
[09:06] <Hooveyy> That's why the installation took so long and the de-install was so short.
[09:06] <rredd4> yeah, i see
[09:06] <rredd4> dl is sloooowwww
[09:06] <ZirJoker> !games
[09:06] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:07] <rredd4> crimsun ty for your help, again....  !!!
[09:07] <crimsun> rredd4: np
[09:08] <Hooveyy> aha, my LAMP server install worked
[09:08] <BHSPitLappy> of course it did
[09:09] <greg_> heh, gotta love ubuntu ;)
[09:09] <Hooveyy> I have.... 200 updates, yay
[09:09] <AdamKili> i'm back
[09:09] <Hooveyy> how come when downloading updates my speed will be 500KB/s then it'll drop to like 10KB/s?
[09:09] <Hooveyy> I find that irratating.
[09:12] <ZirJoker> me too..
[09:12] <JDStone> Hooveyy: burst rates
[09:12] <JDStone> as with any download
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !xmms2
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !xmms
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !evil
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !devil
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <ZirJoker> !doom
[09:14] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:14] <AdamKili> hey is the person who was helping me still here?
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Yes, Adam.
[09:16] <Hooveyy> Why does linux have to take so long to shutdown? Cant it run kill * -1?
[09:16] <mike> #altered-fservers-united
[09:16] <JDStone> Hooveyy: you're not supposed to shut down your linux machines
[09:16] <JDStone> :P
[09:17] <Hooveyy> Har, I needed to restart for some Kernel updates.
[09:17] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: sorry linux was being to slow and i had to restart and it took forever so i forgot who was helping me. dmesg | grep setkey | tail -1 (all in one line right?) didn't output anything
[09:18] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: no it didn't, after your rebooted. Run it after you've pressed the windows key at least once.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ ->> KDE owns you. *nod*
[09:21] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: it still doesn't do anything: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27761/
[09:21] <Toma-> ArrenLex: id love to see the benchmarks including E
[09:21] <Seveas> ArrenLex, yay for inaccurate and outdated benchmarks...
[09:21] <Jay2> anyone have any experience with any Ubuntu compatible business software, I'm looking for something to replace Quickbooks
[09:22] <catalytic> i have put a new HD in my computer
[09:22] <catalytic> and i can browse to
[09:22] <catalytic> it, i have put the mount point in the Desktop dir of my username
[09:22] <catalytic> but i dont have write access to it
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> catalytic, is it ntfs ?
[09:22] <catalytic> how do i change the permissions for a user to access a drive?
[09:22] <catalytic> no it is ext3
[09:23] <C-O-L-T> how to install xgl on intel cards. I tried out mandriva 2007 and those effects work perfectly with my pc so ubuntu xgl should work too. how to install it
[09:23] <wickedpuppy> catalytic, you can chmod or mount as user
[09:23] <blake_> hello..
[09:23] <catalytic> how do i mount as user?
[09:23] <wickedpuppy> catalytic, hmms ... i think google should have examples
[09:24] <Hooveyy> Yayomg
[09:24] <catalytic> ok
[09:24] <catalytic> thanks
[09:24] <Hooveyy> I like, successfully installed LAMP
[09:24] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: it still didn't do anything: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27761/
[09:25] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: and you're absolutely certain that xev didn't show many event when you pressed that key? Nothing changed in the command line from which it was launched?
[09:26] <blake_> what is ubuntu?
[09:26] <ArrenLex> !ubuntu
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:27] <blake_> i was joking.. lol
[09:27] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: yep i'm sure
[09:27] <reverie> What's sunlight?
[09:27] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: then I don't know... sorry. That's really weird.
[09:27] <blake_> i have no cue
[09:27] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: maybe u typoed that command?
[09:28] <Hooveyy> Where is the CGI-BIN dir on the default Ubuntu LAMP stack?
[09:28] <blake_> ll
[09:28] <Rookie_> to use -1 in tail is to tell you want only the last line ...
[09:28] <blake_> lol
[09:28] <Seveas> Hooveyy, in /usr/lib
[09:28] <Hooveyy> thanks
[09:28] <blake_> your funny hooveyy
[09:28] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: or i did :/  can u give it to me 1 more time?
[09:30] <blake_> can i compile your kernal and finger your tree?
[09:30] <mehwoot> I need some help getting these nvidia drivers to work
[09:30] <Rookie_> !nvidia
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:31] <catalytic> is it possible to change the owner of a file?
[09:31] <Rookie_> chown
[09:31] <mehwoot> thanks I'll try that
[09:31] <catalytic> awesome
[09:31] <catalytic> thankts
[09:31] <Rookie_> chown username.group
[09:32] <Rookie_> apropos owner
[09:32] <mike> How do i ask for help
[09:32] <Rookie_> !ask
[09:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:32] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: no, I tried it on my machine and copied it to you.
[09:32] <mike> ok
[09:33] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: if you type dmesg | tail, you can see the most recent kernel messages and look for anything weird... I don't think it will help you much, though.
[09:33] <mike> I am new to ubuntu.  Just installed it.  How do I change my resolution from 60 hz to like 75
[09:33] <mike> it doesnt allow me to go past 60
[09:34] <Rookie_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <mike> that gives me some long menu
[09:34] <Alakazamz0r> umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
[09:34] <Ademan> in anjuta should i choose the scintilla editor or the gtksourceview one?
[09:34] <mike> and more than one spot where I can change the resolution
[09:34] <Rookie_> yea? so ? time to configure ;)
[09:35] <mike> so should i change it in both the verticle and horizantle rates?
[09:35] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: dang it i really wanted to use the 3ddesk (3D Desktop Changer) program on my windows key. it's to inconvienient to use otherwise. Thanks for the help anyways tho
[09:35] <Rookie_> you know what card you have ? you know what it can do ? then use that and then what screen you have ....
[09:35] <mike> I know what card i have
[09:36] <mike> and i am positive that it can go higher then 60
[09:36] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: hey, try this.
[09:36] <Rookie_> linux is userfriendly, its just selective wqho its friend are ;)
[09:36] <Hooveyy> !LAMP
[09:36] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: paste the output of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbModel"
[09:36] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[09:36] <mehwoot> I've installed the nVidia-glx package, along with the AMD64 linux restricted modules, but my drivers still wont work.
[09:36] <CWW256> On a new installation of Ubunto on a blank HD, is it a good/bad idea to define the whole drive as an extended partition then make logical partitions for boot swap and / inside that extended partiton?
[09:37] <CWW256> err Ubuntu
[09:37] <AdamKili> ArrenLex:        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc104"
[09:37] <Rookie_> swap and boot should be prim, rest can be logical
[09:37] <ArrenLex> Hmm. That's right.
[09:37] <po0f> IIRC, /boot has to be a primary partition.
[09:37] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: are you sure the key... works? xD
[09:37] <ArrenLex> I just don't know.
[09:38] <CWW256> Ok so it would be "not good" of swap and boot were logcal partitions inside the extended partiton?
[09:38] <ArrenLex> CWW256: lies. /boot does not have to be a primary partition at all.
[09:39] <ArrenLex> CWW256: there is nothing wrong with the setup you described as long as you use only grub and Linux. They can handle that setup.
[09:39] <Rookie_> CWW256 - create 2 prim parts, 1 for boot and 1 for swap, rest can be logical and then create a new in that one and mount it as /
[09:39] <ArrenLex> CWW256: as soon as you add Windows to the mix, you've gone straight to hell, though. It won't boot from an extended partition.
[09:39] <CWW256> Ok, yeah this will have only Ubuntu installed.
[09:39] <mike> so do input into my monitor's horizontal sync range.
[09:39] <CWW256> No windows
[09:40] <mehwoot> ArrenLex: you sure? According to my setup, windows is on an extended partition and it boots fine..
[09:40] <Hooveyy> Kickass, ubuntu is so easy to use
[09:40] <ArrenLex> mehwoot: pretty sure. o_O
[09:40] <Hooveyy> Especially the LAMP
[09:40] <mehwoot> I have the boot.ini on primary but the actual windows on an extended partition
[09:40] <Hooveyy> I have everything running within a matter of.. a couple minutes ;D
[09:40] <reverie> Hey guys.
[09:41] <ArrenLex> mehwoot: I was so told by the nice lady who lives in the flash waltkthrough in Partition Magic 7...
[09:41] <ArrenLex> walkthrough ***
[09:41] <mehwoot> Hmmm ok
[09:41] <reverie> if we use Edgy and when it comes out as stable, is it just simply a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade to get it up to the final?
[09:41] <ArrenLex> mehwoot: oh, there we go. You're still booting from a primary partition.
[09:41] <Hooveyy> I think it'll come up on the update manager.
[09:42] <mehwoot> yeah I see what you mean
[09:43] <Hooveyy> Whoa, Linux anti-aliases fonts better than windows
[09:43] <Hooveyy> :|
[09:44] <ohboy> wow where to start...
[09:44] <Hooveyy> ?
[09:44] <mehwoot> Im still having trouble with these Nvidia drivers...
[09:45] <mehwoot> I installed the packages and the restricted modules.. but it wont work
[09:45] <mehwoot> how do you check the version of the kernel running?
[09:45] <defrysk> uname -r
[09:46] <mehwoot> thanks
[09:46] <mehwoot> oooh
[09:46] <mehwoot> theres my problem
[09:46] <ClayG> what is the package name to install the extra menus?
[09:47] <ClayG> i think they are called debian menus or something but do not know the exact package name
[09:47] <defrysk> ClayG, go to edit menus and tic the debian menus
[09:48] <defrysk> rightclick the ubuntu startbutton
[09:48] <defrysk> then edit menus etc
[09:48] <ClayG> Thank you, this is exactly what I needed
[09:49] <shriphani> ok guys a question
[09:49] <shriphani> if i got a cpu here and a lappy
[09:49] <ohboy> you don't need a firewall with ubuntu??
[09:49] <niall> 0.
[09:49] <defrysk> ohboy, if no server is installed you do not need one per se
[09:50] <shriphani> and i wanna use my cpu through the lappy what do i do
[09:50] <Zaire> would be a good idea to have one though
[09:50] <jpjacobs> shriphani, i guess you mean desktoppc by cpu, use ssh?
[09:50] <holycow> you guys need to stop using windows terminology
[09:50] <shriphani> jpjacobs, no screen no keyboard
[09:51] <holycow> all modern linux' using modern 2.6 kernels have firewalls built in
[09:51] <holycow> its called ip tables
[09:51] <Zaire> what windows terminology
[09:51] <holycow> to configure it you can just download firestarter or configure it by hand
[09:51] <shriphani> so i can only use the terminal ?
[09:51] <holycow> i.e. you 'don't get a firewall' its built in
[09:51] <jpjacobs> uhu... if you can get it up and running, connected to the net and running an sshserver you can do whatever you want with the box
[09:51] <Zaire> you can get firewalls just 3rd party ones
[09:52] <holycow> Zaire, stop talking shit
[09:52] <jpjacobs> shriphani, not necesarily, you can use Xforwarding (use ssh -X or -Y)
[09:52] <rbil> Linux is a firewall
[09:52] <shriphani> jpjacobs, does the box need to be connected to the internet for me to use ssh ?
[09:52] <holycow> no
[09:52] <shriphani> cuz all the times i have used ssh is to connect to a beowulf cluster over the internet
[09:52] <jpjacobs> well, it neets to be connected to a network that's also accessible for the laptop
[09:53] <ohboy> sorry...i'm new to this
[09:53] <jpjacobs> needs... sorry not that awake :p
[09:53] <shriphani> jpjacobs, so i need to set up a network first and then use ssh ?
[09:53] <jpjacobs> if you have a crosslink cable you can jsut plug it between the 2 and have the box run a dhcpserver
[09:53] <jpjacobs> like dnsmasq or dhcpd
[09:54] <shriphani> oh
[09:54] <shriphani> so the box needs to have a server installation ?
[09:54] <jpjacobs> shriphani, you can even use the box as router then if you want (and have 2 NIC's) see www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
[09:55] <Hooveyy> im out guys
[09:55] <Hooveyy> night
[09:55] <shriphani> jpjacobs, i dont have much hardware here and am looking to be up and running with just a broadband cable
[09:55] <jpjacobs> if you want to use X with it, X has to be installed on the box too (even when it hasn't got a screen)
[09:55] <Zaire> Im not so stfu
[09:56] <shriphani> jpjacobs, this might sound stupid but how do i install an os on the box ?
[09:56] <ArrenLex> !stfu
[09:56] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:57] <ClayG> is there a way to enable the xdmcp from the cli?
[09:57] <jpjacobs> shriphani, well, i'd say: borrow a screen, and keyboard somewhere :)
[09:58] <shriphani> hmm or i can ask the manufacturer to do it for me
[09:58] <jpjacobs> euhm yes, but i would say that just borrowing a screen and keyboard is FAR easier, then you can also install what you want...
[10:00] <shriphani> i want ubuntu on it
[10:00] <shriphani> so i must put that on + dhcpd + openssh
[10:00] <jpjacobs> when you boot (with no matter what livecd) you'll always will have to put in som bootcodes , so a keyboard is the least you need
[10:00] <ohboy> umm...no antivirus or spyware programs needed on a standalone computer?
[10:00] <jpjacobs> yeah indeed... and of course configure
[10:01] <shriphani> jpjacobs, i can dig a tutorial for that
[10:01] <holycow> ohboy, no one has ever seen one of those in the wild for linux really
[10:01] <Afth> Did Ubuntu 6.10 came out (
[10:01] <rbil> ohboy, no
[10:01] <Afth> ?
[10:01] <arnor> Hello World!
[10:01] <ohboy> i'll be damned
[10:01] <holycow> not really
[10:01] <holycow> people have a hard enough time installing legit software
[10:01] <shriphani> Afth, a few months back
[10:01] <jpjacobs> shriphani, i have to say, it's a gentoo tutorial, so don't take things literally... the config remains almost the same though
[10:01] <holycow> there is very little chance someone could install spyware even if they wanted to
[10:01] <Madpilot> Afth, full release isn't for a week or so
[10:02] <Afth> shriphani,  I meant the full version, not beta.
[10:02] <jpjacobs> shriphani, I'm of to eat now.. see you!
[10:02] <shriphani> oh wait Afth i though you asked for 6.06
[10:02] <shriphani> jpjacobs, thanks
[10:03] <Afth> Madpilot,  and onces it get's available, can i do sudo dist-upgrade ?
[10:03] <Madpilot> Afth, yes
[10:03] <Afth> Madpilot, Thanks
[10:03] <shriphani> Afth, i think synaptic gives ya an option
[10:03] <Afth> Last Question: Where can I get XGL?
[10:04] <ohboy> hmm...my old laptop may have some life in it
[10:04] <holycow> Afth, if you are going to try aiglx, remember all that stuff isn't even alpha
[10:05] <hume> what is the command line argument for starting a second x-server? startx  and then what?
[10:05] <holycow> be perpaerd to reinstall your system, graciously gettting your setup to the way it was before isnot pretty
[10:05] <holycow> just a heads up
[10:05] <Afth> hume, startx to manually start xserver
[10:06] <hume> Afth, yes, but I need a second, startx just complains about x alredy running
[10:06] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[10:06] <arnor> snoops: good question :)
[10:06] <Boll> hume: startx -- :1
[10:06] <Boll> I believe
[10:06] <arnor> snoops: I was searching for same thing
[10:07] <snoops> there's nvidia-settings which doesn't seem to have any relevant information about anything
[10:07] <arnor> snoops: I've just found a tool for setting NVidia display parameters but not brightness
[10:07] <hume> Boll, ah, thx..:)
[10:07] <Afth> holycow, sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl ?
[10:08] <holycow> AfterDeath, not even close ... the various instructions are on the wiki, google aiglx orwhatever i don't have a link for you
[10:09] <catalytic> https://sdlc6d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=BA3EBEC02DBAE183BEDB58A5E9087EDA
[10:09] <arnor> did anyone compile Code::Blocks on Ubuntu?
[10:09] <snoops> what tool was that arnor?
[10:09] <catalytic> which package is goign to the be the easiest for me to install on xubuntu/ubuntu?
[10:09] <catalytic> the rpm or the bin?
[10:09] <shriphani> catalytic, bin
[10:09] <catalytic> unless there is a way i can install through synatic
[10:09] <Afth> holycow, thanks
[10:09] <catalytic> ok
[10:10] <halok> john330
[10:10] <ClayG> whats a good port scanner to use with gnome/ubuntu?
[10:10] <catalytic> nmap
[10:11] <arnor> snoops: www.codeblocks.org
[10:13] <spizz> what's a good remote desktop server for linux, besides xdmcp?
[10:14] <snoops> codeblocks.org for setting nvidia display parameters arnor?
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> spizz: freenx ??
[10:14] <holycow> zpiff, nomachine.com has the best one
[10:14] <arnor> snoops: na :)
[10:15] <hume> Boll, i need to have layout Rotate as well as arguments, beside :1 - how do I combine them? then man page doesn't make me any wiser
[10:15] <arnor> snoops: Code::Blocks is an IDE for C++ coding
[10:15] <spizz> holycow - yes, but it's commercial isn't it
[10:16] <holycow> sure you didn't say free
[10:16] <spizz> heh
[10:16] <snoops> arnor, hence why I was asking the question of why you sent me there
[10:16] <spizz> yeah, I've evaluated it
[10:16] <holycow> although most of their libraries are gpl
[10:16] <holycow> you also have vnc, but make sure you tunnel that over ssh
[10:17] <spizz> there's an NX free edition
[10:17] <arnor> snoops: I'm searching for a little tool for NVidia, just for you
[10:17] <snoops> aww, thanks :D
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> spizz: nomachine.com have a free client use freenx for the server
[10:18] <kvtruong_> anyone running aiglx on an intel i915?
[10:18] <spizz> whats the diff between free and nonfree?
[10:18] <Lynoure> free is open source, nonfree is not
[10:18] <kvtruong_> i've noticed that it's significantly slower and the titlebar lags when you maximize
[10:18] <spizz> I mean feature-wise
[10:19] <SupremacyGnu> Hey, I have some r01, r02, r03 etc... files that I want to unpack. I don't seem to be able to do that with the inbuilt archive unpacker. How do I do it?
[10:19] <arnor> snoops: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=724
[10:19] <Lynoure> spizz: completely different packages
[10:19] <arnor> snoops: it seems that MPlayer can adjust brightness/contrast
[10:19] <arnor> snoops: maybe a solution?
[10:19] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:20] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok
[10:20] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, for par2 files sudo apt-get install par2
[10:20] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, par2 only works on the cli afaIk
[10:21] <Lynoure> spizz: or are you talking about something else than repositories and packages, if so, disregard what I said...
[10:21] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok, is par2 the name for the filecompression method?
[10:22] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, par2 repairs rars , they are often send with rar files on usenet but work also on other files
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, sorry, im a beginner linux user. cli afaik?
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok
[10:22] <defrysk> unrar works with linux
[10:22] <defrysk> on cli and also nautilus
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> aha
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> ok, thanks! i'll try it
[10:23] <ndisman> How can i install the ATI driver? is it xorg-driver-fglrx?
[10:23] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, repairing works with par2repair <blah.par2>
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[10:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok
[10:24] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, unrar on the CLI : unrar e <blah.rar>
[10:28] <catalytic> what sort of card do u have ndisman?
[10:28] <catalytic> oh
[10:28] <catalytic> he has gone
[10:30] <Vuen> hey, i'm getting a wierd problem with mounting my drives
[10:30] <Vuen> ever since the upgrade to edgy, my vfat partition doesn't mount automatically
[10:30] <Vuen> but as soon as i type sudo mount -a, it comes right up
[10:30] <Vuen> it's the wierdest thing
[10:31] <defrysk> Vuen, /j #ubuntu+1
[10:31] <Vuen> whoops
[10:31] <Vuen> wrong chan, my bad
[10:32] <chronosoft> hiya
[10:34] <chronosoft> hmm... i was wondering is there a quick and easy way to access super user/root privileges from a user account?
[10:34] <chronosoft> (without having to "switch" to the super user/root account)
[10:35] <tuxi> i have a problem with to format floppys lowlevel
[10:35] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo
[10:35] <tuxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27768/
[10:35] <chronosoft> doesn't work
[10:35] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sure it does.
[10:35] <chronosoft> not in a limited "desktop user" account
[10:35] <_ian_> hi im running ubuntu 5.10 cause 6.06 wont configure my net connection....what do i need to enable mp3 support and radio streaming
[10:35] <chuckyp> chronosoft, you type sudo whateverprogram    it will prompt you for your password then you type it in and it executes whateverprogram as root
[10:35] <tuxi> eanble mukltiverse
[10:36] <defrysk> !mp3
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <tuxi> i use ubuntu edgy
[10:36] <chuckyp> tuxi, /j #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <chronosoft> chuckyp, i have used linux for a couple of years now
[10:37] <chronosoft> i know about sudo'ing
[10:37] <chuckyp> chronosoft, ok then what do you want to do exactly because that gives you root?
[10:37] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo su-
[10:37] <defrysk> chronosoft, you mean something like sudo -i ?
[10:37] <Foc> chuckyp it's sudo -s ?
[10:37] <chronosoft> i want to mount my usb drive
[10:38] <tuxi> sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt
[10:38] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo mount /dev/i'mafucktard
[10:38] <defrysk> lol chuckyp
[10:38] <chronosoft> ...
[10:38] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo mount /dev/coupleofyears /media/usb
[10:38] <chronosoft> ...
[10:39] <chuckyp> chronosoft, or just sudo su-  sudo -i or sudo -s and you will have root.  ctrl+d to leave.
[10:39] <chuckyp> defrysk, i'm getting tired
[10:39] <chuckyp> lol
[10:39] <defrysk> chuckyp, have some uppers ;p
[10:39] <chronosoft> sigh...
[10:39] <chuckyp> defrysk, Yeah i'm about to go mainline some cafeine
[10:40] <chuckyp> chronosoft, what?  I'm sorry I'm a little tired.
[10:40] <chronosoft> i know about all of the above -_-;; try creating a user using the "desktop user" profile
[10:40] <chronosoft> and try sudo urself
[10:40] <chuckyp> chronosoft, yeap works fine
[10:40] <chronosoft> i'm also using edgy
[10:41] <chronosoft> i'm thinking it's a bug
[10:41] <chuckyp> chronosoft, you just have to enter the original users password when it prompts you not the new one
[10:41] <chuckyp> chronosoft, using edgy here and no problems with sudo
[10:41] <defrysk> chronosoft, /j #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <chronosoft> you really can't sudo things over here for some strange reason
[10:41] <chronosoft> chuckyp, i did
[10:41] <chuckyp> chronosoft, well then you have a problem with sudo.
[10:42] <chuckyp> chronosoft,  you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1 why sudo isn't working.
[10:42] <chronosoft> cool thanks, i'll take a look at the problem for a little bit longer
[10:43] <xipietotec> I'm trying to install themes...and I'm getting "invalid format" even though they're zipped in .tar.gz
[10:43] <Zambezi> Anybody skilled on rsync? I can't make it work.
[10:43] <defrysk> xipietotec, isnt that a drag and drop thing ?
[10:43] <[chu] Prot> what are you trying to make it do?
[10:44] <xipietotec> defrysk: yes, but it's telling me the file format is invalid
[10:44] <defrysk> xipietotec, what theme and what link ?
[10:45] <xipietotec> I've got 5 themes off of gnome-look, all gdm themes
[10:45] <defrysk> what what ftw ?
[10:45] <defrysk> ooh gdm themes
[10:46] <Crazyl1nk> i have a question
[10:46] <[chu] Prot> Iv got a group challenge: I have an nforce3 mobo, amd xp3000 and an _ati x800 pro_
[10:46] <chuckyp> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <[chu] Prot> is anyone brave anuf to try and get me some reliable hardware acceleration?
[10:46] <chuckyp> What video card?
[10:46] <chronosoft> lol
[10:47] <Hit3k> chuckyp, Crazyl1nk didnt ask to ask they stated they had a question
[10:47] <chuckyp> Hit3k, thats true
[10:47] <[chu] Prot> chuckyp lemme check
[10:47] <Crazyl1nk> im new to this OS, and id like to test out a game on my linux box, i read that a program called Cedega can help with this but when i download it and run it i get an error. what can i do >_<
[10:47] <chuckyp> [chu] Prot, lspci  should show you what card you have.
[10:47] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, what game are you trying to get working?
[10:47] <Crazyl1nk> Warcraft III
[10:48] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, have you tried wine?
[10:48] <Crazyl1nk> i have no
[10:48] <Hit3k> Crazyl1nk, whats the error you get
[10:48] <Crazyl1nk> not*
[10:48] <[chu] Prot> Sapphire ATI Radeon X800 PRO Toxic 256MB AGP8x
[10:48] <chuckyp> !ati
[10:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <[chu] Prot> yeh iv followed that guide
[10:48] <Crazyl1nk> one second ill type it out
[10:48] <[chu] Prot> no luck
[10:48] <chuckyp> [chu] Prot, no luck at which part?
[10:48] <wickedpuppy> Crazyl1nk, if i may speak , if you are new to this whole thing , why start with something thats bound to have problem ? why not start with some basic ? oh and for games , i still use windows ...
[10:48] <Scorpmoon> Does Ubuntu Server Come With An Ftp Server Builtin ?
[10:49] <crimsun> Scorpmoon: no.
[10:49] <[chu] Prot> i reboot after everything going well and im still getting told im on software rendering
[10:49] <defrysk> xipietotec, do sudo gdmsetup
[10:49] <Scorpmoon> Crimsun, Which Daemon Do You Recommend?
[10:49] <[chu] Prot> if u wait 5 mins i'll reboot back into linux so any help u give me i can use strate away
[10:49] <crimsun> Scorpmoon: vsftpd if you must use an ftp daemon
[10:49] <defrysk> xipietotec, klick add
[10:49] <chuckyp> [chu] Prot, what is the output of glxinfo | grep render
[10:49] <whyso> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/peerguardian/peerguardnf-1.5beta.i386.deb?download are you guys seeing 1 mirror :?(
[10:49] <defrysk> xipietotec, and add the targz or whatever
[10:49] <Scorpmoon> crimsun, what do you mean must? and where is that vsftpd doc i've been looking for?
[10:49] <Crazyl1nk> because i want to learn, not sit here doing nothing im learning just started a day or so ago
[10:49] <Cyber_Stalker> hey
[10:50] <defrysk> xipietotec, make sure to get the ubuntu-download from gnome-look
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> guys i got the latest ubuntu
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> when i run it on VMware
[10:50] <defrysk> xipietotec, for the rest : works fine here ;)
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> & try and instaal the installer crashes half way through :/
[10:50] <xipietotec> cool thanks! =)
[10:50] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, let me find you a howto with wine.   wine is free cedega costs money
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> Crazyl1nk, try bash scripting , you will LEARN linux
[10:51] <Crazyl1nk> *noted*
[10:51] <chronosoft> ^_^... or something more adventurous like perl
[10:51] <Cyber_Stalker> hehe yea i was recomended to learn bash
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> installing a program doesn't make you learn .... even compiling it .. unless you can't read README or INSTALL
[10:51] <krzak> I use edgy and after upgrade today I lost all localization. Everything is in English, anybody familiar ?
[10:51] <xipietotec> defrysk: I don't see anything (using search) for ubuntu-download
[10:51] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, if you sudo apt-get install wine then follow these directions http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1177
[10:51] <Crazyl1nk> ok thanks chuckyp
[10:51] <defrysk> xipietotec, I tested with : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=47457
[10:52] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, hey again. I just discovered that there's something wrong with r16. How do I repair it with par2repair ?
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> right im back in linux
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> guys
[10:52] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, got the par2 files also ?
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> and for thoe of you who missed it b4, im trying to get an x800 to work
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> is there any one that could offer me personal support quick?
[10:52] <bart416> the x800's are like hell
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> typical
[10:52] <bart416> believe me [chu] Prot
[10:52] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, not sure... I ain't got anyfiles named par2 that I want to unpack
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> this time i boot its working
[10:53] <xipietotec> annnnnddd....it won't let me access the gdm setup file
[10:53] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, my bad
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> ok well i'll be back when it dies next time
[10:53] <bart416> did you install the official drivers ?
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> thanks for your help :)
[10:53] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, you can unpack without verifying
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> i installed the ones which apt-get fetches
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> which i dont think are the absolute latest
[10:53] <bart416> Anybody happens to know why the hell my sound card doesn't get started :S
[10:53] <bart416> I installed the driver package of Realtek for the card
[10:54] <bart416> Doesn't work
[10:54] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, well, I used unrar e filename /file/directory. And it worked. But now I get an read error on file r16
[10:54] <crimsun> bart416: ``uname -r''
[10:54] <Cyber_Stalker> any one know why my ubuntu install crashes ?
[10:54] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, unrar e <blah.rar> -kb
[10:54] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, nope
[10:54] <xipietotec> defrysk: how do I access the gdmsetup? without gdm and x11 loaded?
[10:54] <bart416> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[10:54] <crimsun> bart416: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> half way through installing it crashes :/
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> so i have to keep booting off a live CD
[10:55] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, the live cd works fine?
[10:55] <defrysk> xipietotec, you dont I guess
[10:55] <bart416> Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> yea the live cd starts
[10:55] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, and at which part is it crashing i.e. whats going on?
[10:55] <crimsun> bart416: first, upgrade to 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> then on my desktop
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> i have "install"
[10:55] <bart416> crimsun, uhm I'm near the end of my datalimit
[10:55] <crimsun> bart416: don't install the realtek drivers after you update
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> when i dbl click it starts the install to the hard drive so i dont have to boot off the CD
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> but half way through the install it tunes sorry
[10:56] <defrysk> who wants an ISP with datalimit ?
[10:56] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, it tunes?
[10:56] <defrysk> nuts!
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> it says
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> :P
[10:56] <bart416> Uhm no ISP's here without a datalimit :'(
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> it gives me an error & crashes
[10:56] <chuckyp> WHAT IS THE ERROR
[10:56] <Crazyl1nk> whats a good thing to jump into first when wanting to learn inlux?
[10:56] <defrysk> bart416, time to move I guess
[10:56] <defrysk> ;p
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[10:56] <bart416> defrysk, uhm to another country you mean by that?
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> no idea
[10:56] <s_spiff>  anyone here installed beryl on a ubuntu amd64 Dapper env.?
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> gimme a sec
[10:56] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, play around with the system.
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> gotto start VM ware again
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> & try to reinstaal
[10:56] <fly-away> hi 
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> install*
[10:57] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, so you are trying to install in vmware
[10:57] <defrysk> bart416, as an inet junk I would for sure :D
[10:57] <mjcohen> can someone help with enabling divx
[10:57] <jqk> !ati
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> yea
[10:57] <chuckyp> !codecs > mjcohen
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> trying to install it on a virtual machine
[10:57] <Hitch> Cyber_Stalker, are u sure there are no bad sectors on your hd?
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> that shouldnt give an error?
[10:57] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, learn about the directory structure i.e. configs in /etc/   and logs in /var/log   stuff like that will help you.
[10:57] <bart416> defrysk, would making my own EMP bomb and throwing it at the main office of my ISP be a good course of actions?
[10:57] <mjcohen> I installed easy ubuntu and thought that should cover it
[10:58] <boohoo> I was just looking at the ubuntu 6.10 page
[10:58] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, Don't know I've never installed on a virtual server perhaps try the alternate iso so you can do a text install.
[10:58] <defrysk> bart416, its a start ;p
[10:58] <boohoo> i wanna download ubuntu right now
[10:58] <boohoo> but dunno if i should wait for the 24th
[10:58] <boohoo> or not
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> there is an alternate?
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> kk ill check out the CD
[10:58] <chuckyp> boohoo, its release canidate right now.  So its pretty stable but its up to you.
[10:58] <defrysk> boohoo, its fairly safe to get 6.10 for desktop usage
[10:58] <boohoo> oh no, i'm fine with bleeding edge
[10:59] <whyso> i installed the peerguardian.deb package, but all it apparently did was make an empty /etc/peerguardian folder :(
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> but yea im just booting from the CD & then trying to install it from the shortcut on the desktop
[10:59] <defrysk> for server purposes stick to dapper
[10:59] <boohoo> but i would like to update it to the final version
[10:59] <Hitch> Cyber_Stalker, are u sure there are no bad sectors on your hd?
[10:59] <boohoo> and my question is, is the upgrade just as good?
[10:59] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, yeah there is an alternate iso in the same location you downloaded the desktop iso.  You may want to try that.
[10:59] <bart416> so i need to get the linux-image package crimsun ?
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> i didnt download it
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> it got the live CD from ubuntu :P
[10:59] <defrysk> boohoo, I always frefer a fresh install with /home backed up
[10:59] <crimsun> bart416: yes. update && dist-upgrade
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> you can order the CD's
[11:00] <defrysk> boohoo, but thats just me
[11:00] <chuckyp> boohoo, upgrading is the same things supposedly but when I reinstalled my system was a lot faster than the dist-upgraded version.  Have no clue why cuz in theory it shouldn't be.
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> but yea
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> official cd's & it crashes during the install
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> but ill give you the error now
[11:00] <chuckyp> boohoo, I have a seperate /home so reinstalling is that big of a deal.
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> as soon as the virtual machine boots
[11:00] <boohoo> hmm
[11:00] <bart416> Here we go
[11:00] <chuckyp> boohoo, isn't
[11:01] <bart416> 1.1mb / sec isn't bad i guess :S
[11:01] <boohoo> well I just started a new job, and they had FreeBSD installed there, for some reason, it was looking much better than other distros i've used
[11:01] <defrysk>  /home as separate partition , the only thing mandrake does right
[11:01] <boohoo> and I thought FreeBSD wasn't bleeding edge
[11:01] <boohoo> I think it was the small fonts
[11:01] <defrysk> oops *mandriva
[11:01] <bart416> FreeBSD isn't that bad once its configured
[11:01] <defrysk> bsd is snappy
[11:01] <boohoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dapper_with_apps.png
[11:02] <boohoo> that picture, somehow doesnt look all the catchy
[11:02] <boohoo> is it the big icons
[11:02] <boohoo> ?
[11:02] <bart416> The only thing i saw mandrake doing right was getting an x800 to work out of the box btw :P
[11:02] <boohoo> i'm talking about the top bar
[11:02] <howieson26> !de
[11:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:03] <bart416> boohoo, wouldn't look bad if it i'd be a bit smaller on that resolution
[11:03] <astinus> how can I prevent a specific module (SATA) from being loaded on boot?
[11:03] <defrysk> boohoo, looks like a 800x600 resolution
[11:03] <winsux> FreeBSD is very good & nice to run, but kernelupgrade takes 2 long.....
[11:04] <bart416> astinus, editing the modprobe file ? (not sure)
[11:05] <astinus> bart416: its one specific module, for an 88sx controller
[11:05] <bart416> auch :S
[11:05] <boohoo> ahh
[11:05] <astinus> bart: the linux driver sucks, I need to use the one provided by manufacturer.
[11:05] <defrysk> blacklist it ?
[11:05] <bart416> astinus, remove it from the kernel
[11:05] <astinus> defrysk, how?
[11:05] <defrysk> been a while since I did that ask soeone else :s
[11:05] <astinus> bart416, again, how? i'm using a stock Ubuntu kernel.
[11:06] <defrysk> someone*
[11:06] <bart416> astinus, you'll likely need to compile it to remove it
[11:06] <boohoo> does FreeBSD default to 2.16?
[11:06] <boohoo> gnome
[11:06] <winsux> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2378551+0+archive/2006/freebsd-questions/20060312.freebsd-questions
[11:06] <_ian_> does jukbox support .pls files?
[11:07] <bart416> LCOV - 2.6.14_rebootonly_gcov.info - drivers/acpi/blacklist.c
[11:07] <bart416> Current view:, directory - drivers/acpi - blacklist.c. Test:, 2.6.14_rebootonly_gcov.info. Date:, 2006-05-22, Instrumented lines:, 24 ...
[11:07] <astinus> boohoo: I thought this was #ubuntu, or am I missing something?
[11:07] <defrysk> astinus, add the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:07] <Scorpmoon> i did sudo apt-get install vsftpd, and was asked to insert Ubuntu Server CD.. then it installs 2.0.4, but 2.0.5 is the latest
[11:07] <Hitch> anyone knows where to see the datasheet of ubuntu edgy???
[11:07] <boohoo> I almost knew someone would say that :)
[11:07] <astinus> defrysk: aha! you're a star.
[11:07] <bart416> I assume you'll also find it in the blacklist.c file astinus
[11:07] <crimsun> Hitch: "datasheet"?
[11:07] <compengi> what's gksudo used for?
[11:07] <bart416> okay, blacklist without the .c :S
[11:07] <winsux> to become ROOT
[11:08] <winsux> su = superuser
[11:08] <Hitch> crimsun, I mean what was changed from the dapper and what was added...
[11:08] <astinus> I'm sure as Ubuntu gets more popular, the troll count gets higher :S
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> im a linux noob!
[11:08] <KingLear> is it true that the drivers for PCTel micromodem at linmodems.technion.ac.il dont work for kernel > 2.6.8.*?
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> yayayaya
[11:08] <crimsun> astinus: s/as Ubuntu gets more popular, //g
[11:08] <Hitch> su = subsitute user winsux
[11:08] <astinus> crimsun:  :P
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> ubuntu takes long to boot from the cd :/
[11:08] <defrysk> Cyber_Stalker, it does
[11:08] <compengi> Cyber_Stalker, lol
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> :/
[11:09] <defrysk> thats why many install it
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> thats why i want it to instaal
[11:09] <crimsun> Hitch: how high-level do you want a breakdown?
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> bt it crashes half way thoguhg :P
[11:09] <KingLear> Cyber_Stalker I changed the pc, and it all was fine, I had the same problem earlier..
[11:09] <KingLear> lpol
[11:09] <bart416> Can you switch kernel while the OS is running :P
[11:09] <bart416> To lazy to reboot
[11:09] <Hitch> crimsun, I didn't understand
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> KingLear i just deleted the Virtual machine
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> and made a new one
[11:09] <infidel> !mp4
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> maybe it will work better
[11:09] <Madpilot> bart416, that's just about the only thing you do have to reboot *nix for
[11:09] <crimsun> Hitch: what granularity do you want?
[11:09] <KingLear> !pctel
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pctel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <French> IVe been using ubuntu for 2 months now and i used debian befor that. Im interested in Install ing xgl Compiz and i want some one to talk me through their eperience with xgl
[11:10] <[-NoX-] > bart416> too lazy to search for too ? :)
[11:10] <chronosoft> hmm... does anyone know where i could find some examples of some optimized mplayer configurations?
[11:10] <bart416> yeah, Madpilot i was thinking of that, running two kernels at once on a single core cpu is going to cause serious trouble
[11:10] <astinus> French: get some drivers that support compositing and use Beryl
[11:10] <KingLear> any one tell me why do I need gcc to setup modem drivers?
[11:10] <astinus> bart416, yes you can
[11:10] <astinus> bart416, read up on kexec
[11:10] <mjcohen> what is the command to run sa shell script please
[11:11] <Hitch> I want all what is changed or what is added I once saw on OSnews but I'm not finding it anymore crimsun
[11:11] <French> astinus: Did this work for you? did you like it?
[11:11] <astinus> French, its about the best out there currently
[11:11] <astinus> Hitch, thats because Edgy isn't released yet
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, you need to compile the drivers ?
[11:11] <crimsun> Hitch: I still have no idea what granularity you seek, so I'll just point you to all the changes. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/
[11:11] <xipietotec> hrrmm....ubuntu is not recognizing themes
[11:11] <bart416> I'll just go for the reboot
[11:11] <astinus> bart416, ;)
[11:11] <KingLear> well
[11:12] <KingLear> when I click the setup,
[11:12] <power83> hi
[11:12] <KingLear> it says gc not found
[11:12] <bart416> I really need to get my bios to stop searching on my sata hd for something bootable :|
[11:12] <power83> i've istalled ubuntu server, but the kernel don't boot after reboot
[11:12] <KingLear> gcc*
[11:12] <power83> what I have to do?
[11:12] <bart416> power83, what does it say ?
[11:12] <v3l0ct> bart416, disable it in the bios
[11:12] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, then why not install gcc ? get build-essentials ... thats not that hard isnt it ?
[11:12] <astinus> KingLear, apt-get install build-essential
[11:12] <mjcohen> i need to run a install.sh file what cmd do i need in front of it
[11:12] <astinus> mjcohen, sh
[11:12] <Hitch> astinus, it is not released yet but they said all about it's packages
[11:12] <mjcohen> many thanks
[11:12] <KingLear> wickedpuppy I want to insatll build-essentials
[11:12] <defrysk> mjcohen, ./ or sh
[11:13] <KingLear> and it says there is a problem with some libstd6
[11:13] <power83> the kernel freeze after it has printed the 1-2 lines on monitor
[11:13] <infidel> anyone know a reason my mp4 move plays but i get no sound?
[11:13] <xipietotec> I'm trying to install gdm themes from gnome-look and it tells me that all of the ones I've downloaded are invalid file format...despite being .tar.gz files
[11:13] <defrysk> mjcohen, perhaps you have to chmod a+x it first
[11:13] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, pls read astinus reply to you
[11:13] <KingLear> when I try to install it, it says dependency problem with g++
[11:13] <bart416> power83, grub works fine i assum e?
[11:13] <power83> bart416, yes
[11:13] <infidel> !mp4
[11:13] <Hitch> for example there will be no more synaptic package manager this became Smart which car install rpm astinus
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> is it better to let the CD auto partition
[11:13] <astinus> wickedpuppy, thanks :P
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> or should i partition it myself
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> ?
[11:13] <KingLear> wickedpuppy I cant connect to internet via my ubuntu
[11:13] <bart416> what does 'recovery mode' do when you try it ?
[11:13] <astinus> bart416, single user mode
[11:14] <Zaggynl> Anyone here has trouble burning with k3b? When I try, it burns at very low speed: 2.0x or so, while my DVD burner can do 16x, the media also supports 16x
[11:14] <mjcohen> ill have a go thanks
[11:14] <bart416> astinus, i was asking it to power83 if it crashes when he does that
[11:14] <power83> bart416, I have a VIA EPIA M10000 Nehemiah (i686 compatible) and I've installed on it ubuntu server i386
[11:14] <bart416> I know its single user mode :S
[11:14] <astinus> KingLear, then you have bigger problems than just asking about drivers :P
[11:14] <KingLear> wickedpuppy, astinus in ordetr to do that I will have to get a modem, and the modem installation is causing problem
[11:14] <mjcohen> trying to install divx codec
[11:14] <v3l0ct> Zaggynl, you need to upgrade the firmware on the dvd burner
[11:14] <Cyber_Stalker> should i let ubuntu auto partition or partition it myself?
[11:14] <bart416> did the live cd boot fine power83 ?
[11:14] <astinus> Cyber_Stalker, personal preference
[11:14] <KingLear> lols, astinus Thats what I have been asking here since last night
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, so you are in ah ... recursive loop ...
[11:14] <Zaggynl> v3l0ct, I did, I have the newest firmware for my BenQ 1650 (firmware from BenQ)
[11:14] <astinus> KingLear, you're stuck between a rock and a hard place :P
[11:15] <KingLear> all solutions provided to me dont seem to work
[11:15] <power83> bart416, yes, liveCD is perfect andd install ubuntu server correctly
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <--- download the package called build-essential
[11:15] <KingLear> Okay
[11:15] <bart416> Uhm, a possible option would be copying the kernel that the live cd uses to boot to the HD
[11:15] <KingLear> wickedpuppy I do have it on my hard drive, copied it from the CD
[11:15] <v3l0ct> Zaggynl, i dunno then sorry :(
[11:15] <Zaggynl> np :) thanks
[11:15] <Brydenn33> does anyone here have ntfs-3g installed? need some help with it.
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, harddrive ... you need to install it with dpkg
[11:16] <KingLear> but , it doesnt install..
[11:16] <KingLear> what shall I do?
[11:16] <KingLear> shall I uninstall the gcc 4
[11:16] <bart416> But you'll have more luck starting the live cd and chrooting to the hd and updating the kernel
[11:16] <sorush20> !ntfs-3g
[11:16] <KingLear> wickedpuppy thats what I did
[11:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[11:16] <astinus> wickedpuppy, that won't work.
[11:16] <yakumo> how do i erase the data om my cdrw?
[11:16] <Madpilot> KingLear, can you pastebin your sources.list, please? Install errors like that are often caused by a bad set of repo listing...
[11:16] <Hitch> crimsun, that is what I am searching for thanks
[11:16] <astinus> wickedpuppy, build-essential is just a metapackage
[11:16] <bart416> power83, you know how to do that?
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> astinus, oh ya .. lol .
[11:16] <power83> bart416, in ubuntu server the cd is for only istallation, not livecd to test ubuntu server
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, pardon my mistake ...
[11:17] <bart416> You only need a basic linux distro to chroot to the hd power83
[11:17] <sorush20> yama: use gnomebaker.. do you you have that installed just do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker..
[11:17] <KingLear> I have one thing at hand, Madpilot, wicked , : when I cdied into /pctel I did ./setup and was given this
[11:17] <bart416> Okay restart
[11:18] <power83> bart416, okay, but if I hae a ubuntu desktop livecd on dvd drive and chroot on hard disk, next how can I copy ubuntu server kernel on hard disk???
[11:18] <_ian_> guys what do i need to enable .pls support for radio streaming for jukbox?
[11:18] <astinus> i don't see how you can have that problem with Gentoo
[11:18] <astinus> by the very nature of a source-based distro, it always has a compiler, or you're rather fscked
[11:19] <defrysk> _ian_, mp3 support or ogg support or whatever the .plf file refers to
[11:19] <KingLear> here is the pastebin
[11:19] <bart416> power83, well copying the one from the desktop live cd won't be that good
[11:19] <KingLear> when I tried to run the setup in /pctel
[11:19] <KingLear> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27775/
[11:19] <_ian_> i installed gstreamer and lixine but still wont play internet radio.
[11:19] <KingLear> I had That
[11:19] <defrysk> _ian_, for the rest it works on most players of ubuntu
[11:19] <bart416> so getting the network configured and using apt-get to install a new kernel is the best possible option
[11:19] <xipietotec> Okay, I installed kubuntu desktop over normal ubuntu and accidently made it my default, how do I reset gdm to be the default?
[11:19] <bart416> really rebooting now
[11:19] <astinus> KingLear, thats an issue with Ubuntu, one you won't encounter with a Gentoo livecd.
[11:19] <Madpilot> KingLear, no, pastebin your sources.list...
[11:19] <KingLear> when I did that emerge -aUDVN sort of command
[11:20] <Seveas> ohnoitisaDBO!
[11:20] <KingLear> I cant Madpilot
[11:20] <astinus> KingLear, if you have no internet, I reall can't suggest an easy way to get a full toolchain
[11:20] <KingLear> I will have to boot into ubuntu
[11:20] <KingLear> :)
[11:20] <KingLear> u see its a dual boot machine
[11:20] <power83> bart416, with apt-get how I installa a new kernel for ubuntu server?
[11:20] <defrysk> _ian_, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mp3
[11:20] <xipietotec> Okay, I installed kubuntu desktop over normal ubuntu and accidently made it my default, how do I reset gdm to be the default?
[11:20] <power83> apt-get install .............???
[11:20] <Madpilot> KingLear, yes, you would, unless you can get at the Linux partitions from the other OS
[11:21] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, so you are using KDM? or is loging you into KDE?
[11:21] <defrysk> xipietotec, sudo apt-get remove kdm
[11:21] <KingLear> Madpilot That will be a long way, installing new programmes,
[11:22] <xipietotec> v3l0ct: Well, I'm using gdm (i didn't like KDE), but the boot loader is kdm
[11:22] <defrysk> xipietotec, easy eh ?
[11:22] <KingLear> what i am concrned with is , is there a way to rectify this problem?
[11:22] <astinus> xipietotec, how can you use kdm as a bootloader? :o
[11:22] <KingLear> I mean I have all the packages required on the CD,
[11:22] <KingLear> I have them on the hard disk as well,
[11:22] <KingLear> but they wont install because the other package is not installed
[11:22] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, the boot loader is either lilo or grub.
[11:23] <astinus> KingLear, you need libstc++, gcc and a bunch of other stuff
[11:23] <xipietotec> astinus: I mean the login screen is kubuntu, and the logo on grub is kubuntu
[11:23] <astinus> ahh :P
[11:23] <yakumo> how do i fix my apt-get install? because evertime i use apt-get install i got an error mssg
[11:23] <v3l0ct> now it makes sense
[11:23] <KingLear> astinus have them on CD
[11:23] <KingLear> :(
[11:23] <defrysk> xipietotec, kubuntu-artwork-usplash remove it
[11:24] <xipietotec> soo...uninstalling kdm will not remove some of the programs installed when i installed kubuntu desktop (i like some of the programs)
[11:24] <astinus> power83, kernels are generic these days unless you have a bigiron machine
[11:24] <defrysk> xipietotec,  sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[11:24] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you need to be more descriptive of the problem. preferably pastebin the error. so that someone can look and hopefully beable to help you
[11:24] <power83> astinus, sorry I have a VIA EPIA M10000 Nehemiah
[11:24] <astinus> power83, thats not bigiron :P
[11:24] <astinus> power83, linux-image-generic
[11:25] <defrysk> power83 runs on a penlight :D
[11:25] <yakumo> evertime i use apt-get install this messg appear thnks
[11:25] <yakumo>  files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[11:25] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:25] <bart416> crimsun, so what should i do now?
[11:25] <KingLear> well,
[11:25] <KingLear> I will try again,
[11:25] <power83> astinus, it is i686 compatible...apt-get and next???
[11:25] <KingLear> Thanx for the effort ppl, astinus, Madpilot wickedpuppy ,
[11:25] <KingLear> :)
[11:26] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, hmm, are you using fuse?
[11:26] <yakumo> yup
[11:26] <crimsun> bart416: booted into 2.6.15-27?
[11:26] <yakumo> do i need to rm them
[11:26] <bart416> yes crimsun
[11:26] <crimsun> bart416: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[11:26] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, hmm, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get reinstall fuse-utils"
[11:27] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[11:27] <yakumo> ill try
[11:27] <bart416> bart@Raven:~$ tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[11:27] <bart416> Mixers:
[11:27] <bart416> 0: Realtek ALC880
[11:28] <defrysk> snoops, nvidia-settings should do it
[11:28] <yakumo> i got another error mssg
[11:28] <yakumo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:28] <yakumo> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:28] <snoops> hmm doesn't show up in nvidia-settings defrysk
[11:29] <snoops> when I run nvidia-settings from terminal I get a few errors though defrysk
[11:29] <defrysk> snoops, did you install the ubuntu package of nvidia ?
[11:29] <snoops> yes I did
[11:29] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, could you pastebin your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[11:29] <bart416> now what crimsun ?
[11:30] <crimsun> bart416: excellent, and now ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[11:30] <DarkMageZ> !pastebin > yakumo
[11:30] <defrysk> snoops, I can change/correct them here fine, sorry
[11:30] <snoops> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display. Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. Unable to determine nmber of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0.'. Are the errors I get when running nvidia-settings from terminal
[11:30] <Zambezi> Anyone know rsync? I can't make it work.
[11:30] <crimsun> Zambezi: what syntax are you using?
[11:31] <bart416> I don't hear anything crimsun :S
[11:31] <power83> TO INSTALL A SERVER KERNEL on i686: apt-get install <what>
[11:31] <defrysk> snoops, run  sudo nvidia-xconfig restart x and try again
[11:31] <crimsun> bart416: paste the output from ``amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[11:31] <Brydenn33> sorush20 hey i'm still having problems with ntfs-3g. even after reading the link you gave me
[11:31] <snoops> what graphics card defrysk?
[11:31] <astinus> power83, don't shout. apt-get install linux-image-generic
[11:31] <yakumo> sorry but how do i use pastebin
[11:31] <snoops> yeah I guess I'll try that defrysk..
[11:32] <defrysk> fx5200
[11:32] <power83> astinus, thanks
[11:32] <Zambezi> crimsun, I'm trying to block external access so I addes my IP in the computer with a special port. And then I wrote: (hold on).
[11:32] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, basically. you goto their site, you make a new post. then send the link to the url of that post :)
[11:32] <yakumo> k
[11:32] <scott> *hi all* trying to get a hello world prog to compile using gcc/++ but I keep getting gnome.h not found error.  Anyone to help?
[11:33] <Zambezi> crimsun, rsync -avz folder user@ip::/home/user
[11:33] <yakumo> but i try removing my fuse-util using apt-get remove and i got this mssg
[11:33] <yakumo>  files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[11:33] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:33] <yakumo>  fuse-utils
[11:33] <yakumo> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[11:33] <yakumo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:33] <crimsun> Zambezi: terminate the path on the destination properly.
[11:34] <crimsun> Zambezi: for more detail, see rsync(1)
[11:34] <bart416> Scott, you might want to use an ide when you start with programming
[11:34] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, something is definantly flakey about that package. i'm hoping there's a newer version available
[11:34] <bart416> and pastebin;com is the definition of slow
[11:34] <bart416> :S
[11:34] <crimsun> Zambezi: furthermore, make sure tcp/873 is not blocked.
[11:34] <Zambezi> And on the recieving computer (in the same network) I wrote the lines in /etc/rsync.conf. It was something about ip and port.
[11:34] <crimsun> bart416: that's why I specified http://pastebin.ca
[11:35] <yakumo> do i need to reinstall my ubuntu to fix the problem?
[11:35] <scott> bart:I have glade but want to use c/cpp
[11:35] <bart416> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/214980
[11:35] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you "shouldn't" have to
[11:36] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, if you could pastebin your sources.list tho
[11:36] <Zambezi> crimsun, I'm not comfortable open ports in IPCop, but I haven't blocked it, maybe it is blocked by default.
[11:36] <crimsun> bart416: ah, you need the patches I submitted last week.
[11:36] <ajax4> Hey guys. I heard that Adobe's Flash player 9 for Linux was out or is coming out soon. Anyone have any news?
[11:36] <crimsun> bart416: they'll be in a kernel soon (no ETA)
[11:36] <bart416> uhm, scott try kdevelop
[11:36] <DarkMageZ> !flash9 > ajax4
[11:36] <bart416> oh
[11:36] <ajax4> scott: Also try Anjuta
[11:36] <crimsun> bart416: in the meantime, you can compile alsa-driver 1.0.13 from ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
[11:36] <scott> ok thanks
[11:37] <bart416> scott, I'm not sure if it will work in gnome
[11:37] <ajax4> DarkMageZ: thanks
[11:37] <bart416> Likely tough
[11:37] <bart416> or eclipse with the correct plugins
[11:37] <scott> I'll read up on it
[11:37] <crimsun> scott: you need libgnomeui-dev, probably
[11:38] <bart416> crimsun, I don't see the point in compiling a simple hello world application with all the gnome stuff :S
[11:38] <crimsun> bart416: he asked for gnome.h specifically.
[11:38] <scott> I have gnome-libs-devel-1.4.2-7.i386
[11:38] <GMan> lo all
[11:38] <GMan> any one know how to get masked ips unmasked
[11:38] <GMan> with xchat
[11:39] <bart416> GMan, uhm dcc to them and list all the connections
[11:39] <mjcohen> while trying to run an install.sh by typing sudo sh install i get an error of can not execute binary file ??
[11:39] <yakumo> ok thnks
[11:39] <bart416> mjcohen, chmod it
[11:39] <v3l0ct> mjcohen, chmod a+x filename and then ./ or sh file
[11:39] <mjcohen> how do I run this file anyone?
[11:39] <scott> I already have a console app that compiles
[11:40] <mjcohen> nice thanks
[11:40] <bart416> when are the patches going to be downloadable crimsun ?
[11:40] <bart416> don't need an exact thing
[11:40] <xipietotec> thanks folks for the help removing kdm...worked out one of my theme problems. What theme manager type thingy (qt, metacity, gtk, etc.) does ubuntu use by default?
[11:40] <crimsun> bart416: they're already downloadable; I pointed you to upstream's tarball.
[11:40] <bart416> Only some sort of guidline in what time span i should check it
[11:41] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, gtk and metacity themes
[11:41] <bart416> you mean this crimsun: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/ ?
[11:41] <xipietotec> cool, thanks. =)
[11:41] <xipietotec> 2.X?
[11:41] <arup> can anybody point me to a IRC server for perl! or  perl regex expertise will also help
[11:41] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, 2.x will look better but 1.x will work too
[11:42] <crimsun> bart416: + alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2
[11:42] <Cyber_Stalker> wow
[11:42] <Cyber_Stalker> what a mission linux is :;/
[11:42] <GMan> no one know how to get ips from a masked server
[11:42] <Cyber_Stalker> its so daunting when u first get started :/
[11:43] <mjcohen> still no luck ion the can not execute binary file
[11:43] <v3l0ct> Cyber_Stalker, is like anything else when you first learn
[11:43] <defrysk> mjcohen, run blah.sh try that
[11:43] <GMan> ./file +x chmod
[11:43] <Cyber_Stalker> thats unfortunatly what windows has over linux :(
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> Cyber_Stalker: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:43] <bart416> well, most of the problems are hardware problems Cyber_Stalker
[11:43] <Cyber_Stalker> user friendly & the ability to do anything quick :(
[11:43] <bart416> My previous computer didn't have any of those cause it was quite old hardware
[11:44] <Cyber_Stalker> but linux still > windows :P
[11:44] <bart416> Cyber_Stalker, I personally think linux is rather easy to use compared to windows
[11:44] <Cyber_Stalker> even when you first started using linux?
[11:44] <scott> crimsun: Installed libgnomeui-dev but still same result
[11:44] <bart416> but yeah, my first 'computer' was a amiga commodore
[11:44] <bart416> Cyber_Stalker, actually yes
[11:44] <mjcohen> no luck with the run command does not exist
[11:44] <bart416> I first installed mandrake cause it was said to be easy
[11:44] <defrysk> my first , zx spectrum
[11:44] <crimsun> scott: is gnome.h in fact the file you need?
[11:44] <bart416> Trashed it for Ubuntu after a week
[11:44] <bart416> lol
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> im starting on ubuntu :P
[11:45] <poningru> guys #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter
[11:45] <poningru> this is support only
[11:45] <CompuCh|p> Hi
[11:45] <bart416> sorry poncho1
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> but its on the topic of ubuntu :P
[11:45] <bart416> * poningru
[11:45] <bart416> :|
[11:45] <defrysk> BRP!
[11:45] <scott> crimsun: It says file not found and wont even find it if I explicitly point it at the include dir
[11:45] <crimsun> scott: then install libgnome-dev (which is for gnome1.2, not gnome2.x)
[11:46] <mlpug> I also started with mandrake. after ubuntu hype started i did switch to breezy and have been using ubuntu since then
[11:46] <pdaX> what's the difference between installing the desktop and the server of ubuntu.. i'm aiming for a system which will be both, but i'm generally happier compiling my own server-related software..
[11:46] <scott> I have gnome-config.h but I can't do anything with that either
[11:46] <CompuCh|p> I have plugged in my USB (HP Laserjet 1500) printer and it installed correctly, but when I try to print a test page the job disappears from the queue without anything happening on the printer. The cups log shows no errors except " Local authentication certificate not found! " every 3 secs.
[11:46] <poningru> pdaX: with desktop it installs all the gui stuff
[11:46] <poningru> like gnome, and all the packages that are required for a desktop operations
[11:46] <defrysk> server install has no x afaIk
[11:46] <poningru> such as firefox, OOo
[11:46] <pdaX> ok cool.. so desktop + extra software would be the way to go
[11:46] <poningru> right
[11:46] <pdaX> cheers
[11:47] <scott> Ok I'll give it a shot(libgnome-dev)
[11:47] <tuxi> problem gelst schrift jetzt grn
[11:47] <tuxi>  (dumb)
[11:47] <Zambezi> crimsun, I tried now and it starts to send the file, but aborts and says rsync: mkstemp "/USER@IP::/home/.USER.CIgim8" failed: No such file or directory (2). Uppercase means that the original text is replaced.
[11:47] <poningru> !de
[11:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:48] <crimsun> Zambezi: that's a syntax issue, then.
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> pdaX: if you want a gui for your server a lot of people use something like fluxbox as it takes less resources than gnome or kde
[11:48] <tuxi> sorry not the rigth channel
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> ok well
[11:49] <Zambezi> crimsun, Is it because I put two line in the rsync.conf-file in /etc/?
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> the virtual machine gave hell
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> after deleting it & creating a new virtual machine with more space dedicated to it
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> its installed fine
[11:49] <crimsun> Zambezi: what did you modify?
[11:49] <sonics> morning guys!
[11:50] <pradeep> sonics, good morning
[11:50] <heikki> morning
[11:50] <Zambezi> crimsun, One second.
[11:50] <defrysk> nn
[11:50] <sonics> haha poningru I just woke up :D
[11:51] <sonics> *g*
[11:51] <sonics> can you guys recommen me a good linux guide!? :)
[11:51] <Zambezi> crimsun, --address=IP // --port=XXXX. IP is IP on this machine. I saved the file as rsync.conf in /etc/. It's a try to block external access.
[11:51] <defrysk> sonics, docs of debian.org ?
[11:52] <sonics> kkkk
[11:52] <CompuCh|p> Anyone familiar with printing / cups?
[11:55] <CompuCh|p> Anyone at all: familiar with printing / cups?
[11:55] <rockstar_> compiz vs beryl??
[11:55] <arup> anyone some perl help or pointer ?
[11:56] <Subhuman> arup, this is a ubuntu help channel
[11:56] <Subhuman> not a perl one
[11:56] <Subhuman> try #perl instead
[12:00] <ese5> ok ... i'm trying to get ubuntu to work with wpa2 - so i installed network manager
[12:00] <ese5> but where the hell is it?
[12:00] <ese5> aren't i supposed to see some applet on the toolbar now
[12:01] <CompuCh|p> nvm
[12:01] <xipietotec> grr....how do you remove a directory with files in it in bash again?
[12:01] <ese5> xipietotec: rm -rf ?
[12:01] <xipietotec> thanks. =)
[12:02] <crimsun> ese5: dpkg -l network-manager-gnome |grep ^ii
[12:02] <ese5> nothing
[12:03] <oscar_> hello, i am trying to fix my xserver that has died, i am running an nvidia 6600gt agp, anybody know a quick way of pulling up gnome (dont need hw accelleration at the moment, i have an assignment due tomorrow!!) theres probably a quick way of doing it, any ideas?
[12:03] <mailinh> ^^,
[12:03] <ese5> oscar: startx
[12:03] <ese5> :-D
[12:03] <mailinh> nono
[12:03] <oscar_> nope
[12:04] <mailinh> how is your prob ???
[12:04] <oscar_> i get an error telling me that i dont have eough power to the card
[12:04] <exhale> sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg ?
[12:04] <scott> #gnome
[12:04] <ese5> wtf
[12:04] <oscar_> exhale, will that actually reconfig anything?
[12:04] <mailinh> i think so :)
[12:04] <exhale> oscar_, yes, the x-server
[12:04] <oscar_> wtf indeed, that error if totally false
[12:05] <ese5> oscar: it starts the configuration program
[12:05] <mailinh> have u install your driver ???
[12:05] <oscar_> oh, sweet
[12:05] <oscar_> yes, i used automatix to install the driver proginally
[12:05] <exhale> not enough power for the card? sounds like a hardware problem
[12:05] <mailinh> ????
[12:05] <pradeep> oscar_, I have the same card here, maybe my xorg.conf would help?
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> i get that sometimes on a 7600gs, a rebbot solves the problem
[12:06] <mailinh> i think you should install your card driver
[12:06] <oscar_> sure pradeep, if you can figure how to get me it
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> i guess its a defect of the card
[12:06] <exhale> mailinh, im pretty shure he has
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> *reboot
[12:06] <scott> oscar: what distro + driver are you using?
[12:07] <nolimitsoya> in only on cold starts anyway....
[12:07] <oscar_> ubuntu, automatix's nvidia driver
[12:07] <mailinh> :(
[12:07] <Subhuman> !easysource
[12:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:07] <scott> oscar: Does the card require an extra power source?(Has it worked before?)
[12:07] <defrysk> :(
[12:07] <oscar_> sorry, ubuntu was probably a bit vauge
[12:07] <pradeep> oscar_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27784/
[12:08] <netG> hi i'm trying to configure firestarter
[12:08] <oscar_> yes, it needs external power and it is getting it
[12:08] <netG> but with no success
[12:08] <koan0815> hi, I try to install Edgy Eft and the installer always says "no root system" although I have selected / for the primary partition ... has anyone a tip ?
[12:08] <scott> Oscar: Are you sure? How old is your PSU?
[12:08] <holycow> ha! easy source is a neat idea
[12:08] <holycow> nice one :)
[12:08] <netG> could it be that my provider is blocking ports???
[12:09] <oscar_> ok guys, thanks a ton for your help, i am going to try this reconfiguring thing and if it dosent work, i;; be back
[12:09] <diabolo_nounours> Bonjour
[12:09] <oscar_> scott, yes i am sure
[12:09] <timwizzy> cd ..
[12:09] <exhale> koan0815, i didnt have that problem but it could be a bug. are you using the RC?
[12:09] <diabolo_nounours> I'm french
[12:09] <diabolo_nounours> Where is the french room ?
[12:09] <koan0815> exhale : yes the rc
[12:09] <exhale> #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:10] <exhale> koan0815, better report it
[12:10] <mailinh> where is vietnam room ? ^^,
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> thx koan0815
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> thx exhale
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> ^^
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> :x
[12:11] <{_-IcE-_}> any1 knows if squirrelmail works for pop? as it only has options for imap in the conf :S
[12:11] <mailinh> it wors for pop
[12:12] <mailinh> believe it
[12:12] <mailinh> ^^,
[12:12] <mailinh> or try horde
[12:12] <oscar_> ok, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-org, was that the command?, because that didnt work
[12:12] <mailinh> www.horde.org
[12:12] <{_-IcE-_}> mind telling me how? hehe i got it up allright but when i try login it tries logging in to imap
[12:12] <sacker> -xorg at the end oscar
[12:12] <exhale> oscar_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg
[12:12] <mailinh> why you dun try horde/imp
[12:13] <the_mike> hi
[12:13] <mailinh> i think it better then squirrel {_-IcE-_}
[12:13] <oscar_> ph, xorg it is
[12:13] <oscar_> cheers
[12:13] <{_-IcE-_}> hmm ill get horde then :)
[12:13] <dumr> what is horde
[12:13] <the_mike> can so help me to set/change the default locale in my ubuntu edgy?
[12:13] <mailinh> www.horde.org
[12:14] <power83> sovvy, what is the name of ubuntu kernel i686 to install?
[12:14] <dumr> question for op: /nick and /quit went down the bridge and /nick fell down. Who stays on bridge
[12:14] <mailinh> uname -r
[12:14] <mailinh> power83, uname -r
[12:14] <mailinh> try this ^^,
[12:15] <{_-IcE-_}> d/loading
[12:15] <mailinh> oke, and download imp also {_-IcE-_}
[12:15] <oscar_> it says x-server-xorg is not installed?
[12:15] <gilnim> hi! i just installed the ati driver from ati - i'm running Xorg version 7.0: i tried to run glx gears and got the following error: "couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"
[12:15] <{_-IcE-_}> hm, whats imp for ?
[12:16] <KingLear> Okay ,
[12:16] <mailinh> horde is a framework, imp is a webmail run on that framework {_-IcE-_}
[12:16] <{_-IcE-_}> ah ok
[12:16] <{_-IcE-_}> tnx
[12:16] <oscar_> do i need a dpkg command to install x-server-xorg to begin with?
[12:17] <scott> oscar: sudo apt-get install x-xserver-xorg
[12:17] <mailinh> oscar_, find that .deb file
[12:17] <mailinh> and try by dpkg
[12:17] <oscar_> which .deb?
[12:17] <mailinh> i dislike apt-get ^^
[12:17] <{_-IcE-_}> downloading
[12:17] <boink> apt-get works fine
[12:18] <power83> mailinh, ok tahnks, but i need a server kernel and the server doesnt boot
[12:18] <sacker> oscar, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <oscar_> ok, i will go try again
[12:18] <mailinh> :)
[12:18] <mailinh> power83, usually u need to build your kernel :(
[12:18] <oscar_> sacker; thats when i get the not installed error
[12:18] <exhale> apt-get is the best thing ever since sliced bread
[12:18] <sacker> x-server orxserver?
[12:18] <sacker> xserver?
[12:18] <snedar> hey! is it possible to make my ubuntu system safe enough to allow others to ssh into it? I don't want them to be able to view my home directory or edit configuration files etc.
[12:18] <scott>  oscar: sudo apt-get install x-xserver-xorg
[12:19] <boink> snedar: sure
[12:19] <{_-IcE-_}> mailinh: could have told me that horde and imp could be installed through apt-get :p
[12:19] <gilnim> ~$ glxgears
[12:19] <gilnim> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:19] <mailinh> i dunno, it's a php web application
[12:19] <mailinh> i think you should install it by yourself
[12:19] <mailinh> just copy it to /var/www
[12:19] <snedar> boink: do you know of a checklist of permissions to set or something?
[12:19] <boink> it could be an ubuntu .deb
[12:19] <mailinh> very easy
[12:20] <boink> snedar: man chmod
[12:20] <scott> gilnim: What does ~$ 'glxinfo | grep render' return?
[12:20] <boink> with chmod, you can set your own $HOME private
[12:20] <power83> mailinh, the kernel of ubuntu server cd after istallation don't boot, so I chrooted onto it and i will ue apt-get....
[12:20] <gilnim> scott: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[12:20] <trz> hello.
[12:20] <mailinh> power83, wat is your system ???
[12:20] <snedar> boink: okay, I'll do that, do you know whether I should secure other directories too or are they secured by default?
[12:21] <scott> glnim: That's probably not good
[12:21] <boink> if you give nobody else your own sudo passwd, then it's safe
[12:21] <boink> that's linux/unix security
[12:21] <snedar> boink: ok, thanks :-)
[12:21] <scott> glnim: What driver are you using?
[12:21] <oscar_> now apt-get says that the package x-server-xorg dosent exist??, is it called somethig else?
[12:21] <gilnim> the ati driver on the ati.com page
[12:21] <trz> I need help with recovering my hdd after misusing fsck. fsck now shows "root i-node is not a directory. clean?". Any hints?
[12:21] <boink> oscar: apt-cache search x-server
[12:21] <mailinh> oscar_, try to download .deb and dpkg  ^^,
[12:22] <oscar_> cheers
[12:22] <boink> you might need to pipe it to less
[12:22] <gilnim> scott: i'm running 64bit ubuntu 6.06
[12:22] <sacker> Is it not xserver and not x-server?
[12:22] <scott> gilnim: Are you using fglrx?
[12:22] <sonics> when edgy comes out, can one easily upgrade to it?
[12:22] <gilnim> yes
[12:22] <boink> sonics: should be
[12:23] <sonics> ok =) 27.okt right?
[12:23] <boink> though, I'm not sure myself if you will need to redo the xorg.conf or not
[12:23] <scott> gilnim: Make sure module glx is loaded in xorg.conf
[12:23] <trz> Can anyone help?
[12:23] <boink> !ask
[12:23] <oscar_> ok, now this is getting very annoying
[12:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:23] <sonics> haha
[12:24] <mailinh> haha ^^,
[12:24] <gilnim> scott: 'load "glx"' ?
[12:24] <Scorpmoon> how do I view what groups a user is member of?
[12:24] <oscar_> i cant find any packages that look correct
[12:24] <power83> mailinh, VIA EPIA M-10000 Nehemiah i686 compatible
[12:24] <boink> scorpmoon: have a look at /etc/groups
[12:24] <mailinh> power83, that is a server ???
[12:25] <trz> What can be done about "corrupted root inode"?
[12:25] <mailinh> power83, it sounds strange :(
[12:25] <sacker> oscar Are you sure you was typing the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg correctly?
[12:25] <Scorpmoon> boink, it's empty.. if I want to setup ftp access to my /var/www folder, how would I go about that? I don't give that to my main user do I?
[12:26] <power83> mailinh, yeah in my home
[12:26] <power83> mailinh, why strange?
[12:26] <oscar_> sacker, i thought there was a dash between x and server
[12:26] <oscar_> ok, here i go again then
[12:26] <sacker> oscar nope
[12:26] <mailinh> ^^, sure, if it is popular, the kernel work well :))
[12:27] <boink> scorpmoon: you need to install a ftpd
[12:27] <Scorpmoon> boink, i installed vsftpd, but I have no clue how to setup the rights
[12:27] <mailinh> power83, can the live cd boot ????
[12:27] <boink> ok .. that's in the documentation
[12:27] <Scorpmoon> boink, vsftpd has no documentation (for humans)
[12:27] <boink> I've never used vsftpd myself
[12:27] <power83> yeah ad installa correctly, but after reboot the kernel freeze priting the first 2 lines on monitor
[12:27] <nEwB> helllo all
[12:28] <power83> I've tried 2/3 time to install
[12:28] <trz> Anyone willing to help?
[12:29] <nEwB> hello all
[12:29] <astinus> trz, fsck it.
[12:29] <snedar> Scorpmoon: look at the help site of ubuntu
[12:30] <Scorpmoon> snedar, so I did.. I'm still clueless
[12:30] <astinus> Scorpmoon, proftpd then
[12:30] <nEwB> I am trying to mount NTFS partitions on my machine but i keep on getting "You do not have permission" messages.  How do I resolve this?
[12:30] <snedar> vsftp is good
[12:30] <snedar> Scorpmoon: have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html ?
[12:30] <Scorpmoon> astinus, I presume I'll have the same problems with user/groups setup with proftpd
[12:31] <Scorpmoon> snedar, yes I am exactly at that point.. but this is where user/group setup starts
[12:31] <mailinh> if the livecd can boot, does gentoo know your hdd ??? power83
[12:31] <Scorpmoon> I need to have a web user with access to /var/www, but I just aswell need ftp access to it
[12:31] <wickedpuppy> nEwB, sudo
[12:32] <power83> mailinh, yeah
[12:32] <power83> mailinh, but why you speak now about gentoo??!?!?!
[12:33] <mailinh> ^^, srry, i use both ^^,
[12:33] <Scorpmoon> i give up... saving up for win2003 server :)
[12:33] <snedar> Scorpmoon: do you already have the web user set up?
[12:33] <power83> mailinh, now I'm using gentoo on another machine (desktop)
[12:33] <Scorpmoon> no.. LAMP has root:root on /var/www by default
[12:33] <mailinh> if the livecd know your hdd, i think the kernel is no prob :(
[12:33] <{_-IcE-_}> mailinh : i created the alias for it but for some reason keeps saying page not found
[12:33] <nEwB> wickedpuppy:How do I enable SU in xwindow. I do not want to  "browse" in a terminal
[12:34] <Scorpmoon> I just can't find a good tutorial how to do this the right way
[12:34] <power83> but I would try and test ubuntu server
[12:34] <{_-IcE-_}> directory seems ok
[12:34] <{_-IcE-_}> and apache has been restarted
[12:34] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_}, try to config it like the docs
[12:34] <mailinh> and chmod that folder
[12:34] <wickedpuppy> nEwB, you should be able to read .... ls -l pls ...
[12:35] <mailinh> you could try 777 for easy, but very unsecure :)
[12:35] <{_-IcE-_}> hmm, whats best to try?
[12:35] <mailinh> power83, i think you could try slackware for server ^^, i love that
[12:35] <mailinh> ubuntu is good at desktop
[12:35] <Scorpmoon> ubuntu server lacks documentation
[12:35] <nEwB> sudo mount /dev/hda1 something like will give me permission as normal user to browse it?
[12:36] <Scorpmoon> theres not even an ubuntu server irc channel
[12:36] <mailinh> uhm, see user apache run on
[12:36] <{_-IcE-_}> i think if it was a permission problem it wouldnt say page not found o_o
[12:36] <jaggz> anyone know how to copy to the clipboard in konsole?
[12:36] <mailinh> and chown that user to that folder
[12:36] <mailinh> like
[12:36] <snedar> Scorpmoon: I haven't got much experience with it, but you can try creating a "web" user (through the System Administration thing), then perform "sudo chown web:web /var/www -R". then the local stuff has been set, and you only need to change /etc/vsftpd.conf so that the web user can login (I can help you with that)
[12:36] <mailinh> chown apache -R horde
[12:36] <mailinh> like that
[12:36] <jaggz> like gnome-terminal uses ctrl-shift-c and v, console uses shift-ins to paste, but it doesn't use ctrl-ins to copy
[12:37] <jaggz> s/console/konsole/
[12:37] <power83> Scorpmoon, no matter with docs, I have some experience with server, but when I discovered soe think like this I'm very hurry
[12:37] <power83> mailinh, slackware?
[12:37] <mailinh> ^^, yes, slackware
[12:37] <power83> could you give me some info about it?
[12:37] <mailinh> the oldest linux distro ^^,
[12:37] <{_-IcE-_}>  chown www-data -R /usr/share/horde3
[12:37] <power83> or link?
[12:37] <jaggz> however, konsole is not using the X mouse clipboard, but the other one (highlighting and using shift-ins will not use the presently-highlighted text, but something you actually right-click->copy'ed to the clipboard)
[12:37] <{_-IcE-_}> no use
[12:37] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_}, oke
[12:37] <{_-IcE-_}> same
[12:37] <demio> hey guys
[12:37] <{_-IcE-_}> hm, lemme make sure alias is ok
[12:37] <mailinh> fuck, chmod 77 for it ^^,
[12:37] <demio> how do I get root access?
[12:38] <mailinh> sudo -i
[12:38] <mailinh> demio,
[12:38] <demio> ty
[12:38] <power83> mailinh, why slackware instead gentoo or ubuntu?
[12:38] <mailinh> if it dun work, u config something wrong, power83
[12:39] <mailinh> oh, slack is as simple as possible
[12:39] <demio> how do i get the size of a directory?
[12:39] <mailinh> ^^,
[12:39] <mailinh> and
[12:39] <mailinh> simple is pro :))
[12:39] <{_-IcE-_}> how can i confirm apache is running as www-data?
[12:39] <mailinh> :)
[12:39] <mailinh> ps aux
[12:39] <mailinh> and see
[12:39] <mailinh> apache or httpd
[12:39] <{_-IcE-_}> lol stupid question
[12:39] <mailinh> wat is user ?
[12:39] <surface> ps aux | grep apache
[12:39] <power83> ok mailinh thanks
[12:39] <gilnim> i still have the following problem when i run "glxgears":  "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"   I'm have a ATI Radeon X1600 graphic card and I use Xorg driver version 7.0 and ATI driver version 8.29.6; Maybe someone can help me
[12:39] <{_-IcE-_}> yep it is
[12:39] <{_-IcE-_}> :)
[12:40] <{_-IcE-_}> hmm
[12:40] <power83> today If I can, I'm gonna read about slack
[12:40] <jaggz> su - www-data and try to kill the apache process :)
[12:40] <{_-IcE-_}> lol
[12:40] <mailinh> power83, try slackware, i found that slack is like unix most ^^,
[12:40] <cherubiel> demio: du -hcs foldername
[12:41] <{_-IcE-_}> must be alias problem, lemme do it again
[12:41] <snedar> if a user has no permission to /home/sander/ but has rwx permission to /home/sander/test/, can that user use that directory?
[12:41] <wickedpuppy> mailinh, can you recommend other distros in private ? I love slackware myself but i won't recommend ubuntu in #slackware
[12:42] <mailinh> ^^, srry
[12:42] <mailinh> srry
[12:42] <mailinh> i wont again ^^,
[12:42] <{_-IcE-_}> meh still same problem :S
[12:42] <fnf> snedar: yes, as long as the user doesn't query /home/sander
[12:43] <mailinh> i think you config something wrong, see the docs more carefully, power83
[12:43] <Stu32> can ubuntu work with p965 sata chipset ?
[12:43] <mailinh> have you installed php, power83 ???
[12:44] <snedar> fnf: are you sure? I tried vim and creating a symlink, both both return "Permission denied"
[12:44] <fnf> Stu32: No experience on that, but that's not related to Ubuntu itself anyway, rather than the kernel config.
[12:44] <power83> mailinh, the ubuntu server installation don't permit to choose package
[12:44] <Stu32> k thanks anyway
[12:44] <power83> you can installa a LAMP server or installa all in the cd
[12:45] <mailinh> srry, not familiar with ubuntu server
[12:45] <fnf> snedar: I'll recheck on that right away.
[12:45] <trz> How can I make my grub go to hell and not try to boot from it, just go straight to windows booter?
[12:45] <v3l0ct> trz, you'll need a windows cd to boot from
[12:45] <mailinh> but is your server have php, power83
[12:45] <astinus> trz, run fixmbr in windows?
[12:45] <trz> I have one.
[12:46] <mailinh> try php --version
[12:46] <mailinh> and does your apache work well ???
[12:46] <astinus> trz, or just run a repair operation using your CD
[12:46] <v3l0ct> trz, you'll need to go into console when it gives you the option and then FIXMBR
[12:46] <mailinh> if it work well, when you browse http://yourdomain/horde/test.php
[12:46] <v3l0ct> trz, that'll clear the mbr and give you back the windows boot loader
[12:46] <sonics> hm i could need an advise.. i was using windows up until 2days ago..I got a windows partition with 30gig, a linux part with 10 gig and a partition to download stuff for 40 gig.. the downloadpartition is in FAT32 tho, should  I change it to ext3???
[12:46] <trz> The problem is I can't boot anything from hdd now. Grub won't load because of corrupted partition.
[12:47] <mailinh> it will have something
[12:47] <astinus> trz, run a repair operation
[12:47] <mailinh> something right or not, but it will have, power83
[12:47] <fnf> snedar: my bad, it would require at least 'execute' permission
[12:47] <v3l0ct> trz, boot from the windows cd and repair brings you to a console
[12:47] <power83> I know
[12:47] <snedar> fnf: okay, thanks for checking! that allows me to make my system secure more easily :-)
[12:48] <mailinh> wat u have when you browse that test page ???
[12:48] <Stumpyfoot> hi all
[12:48] <Stumpyfoot> i need some help please
[12:48] <fnf> snedar: execute permission doesn't allow listing dir btw, that should be enough.
[12:48] <mailinh> oke, i will try my best, Stumpyfoot
[12:48] <Stumpyfoot> my refresh is stuck on 60hz and i cant change it
[12:49] <Stumpyfoot> ive got an nvidia geforce 256
[12:49] <Stumpyfoot> dapper drake
[12:49] <cherubiel> !grub
[12:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:49] <cherubiel> trz: ^^
[12:49] <l3> ciao
[12:49] <trz> How to su to root in live cd? What's the password?
[12:49] <astinus> trz,  I think he was trying to ditch Ubuntu for Windows
[12:49] <snedar> fnf: ok, but I'll remove the read permissions for other users anyway
[12:49] <astinus> woops
[12:49] <gilnim> i still have the following problem when i run "glxgears":  "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"   I'm have a ATI Radeon X1600 graphic card and I use Xorg driver version 7.0 and ATI driver version 8.29.6; Maybe someone can help me
[12:49] <trz> cherubiel: The problem is that it tries to boot with Grub, which fails because its partition is corrupted.
[12:49] <{_-IcE-_}> managed to get in :)
[12:49] <astinus> trz, there is no password.  sudo su -
[12:50] <cherubiel> trz: whats the error message?
[12:50] <timwizzy> Hey, can someone connect to my smtp server? I don't know if its accessable via internet.
[12:50] <timwizzy> its timtech.myftp.biz
[12:50] <v3l0ct> trz, you need to fix the mbr and to do that you have to boot from the windows cd
[12:50] <trz> cherubiel: Can't recall exactly. Nothing informative, rather something like "Boot error 2" or smth.
[12:51] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: I'm running server now but had a pretty bad experience with some Ubuntu desktop gadgets, it's probably a bug, how about changing the /etc/X11/xorg,conf
[12:51] <trz> Trying to fsck that partition now, but it doesn't look promising.
[12:51] <Stumpyfoot> ive tried a modline but that didnt work
[12:51] <BelialMkII> timwizzy, i got to it trhrough telnet fine
[12:51] <Stumpyfoot> modeline
[12:51] <timwizzy> thank you BelialMkII
[12:51] <BelialMkII> Escape character is '^] '.
[12:51] <BelialMkII> helo boobles
[12:51] <BelialMkII> 220 ubuntu.home ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[12:52] <timwizzy> BelialMkII: Why can I not send emails to tom@timtech.myftp.biz
[12:52] <scott> will someone please tell me how to send a message to another IRC user so that they only see it(they see text in red) xchat newb
[12:52] <cherubiel> Stumpyfoot: sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg, backup your old xorg.conf
[12:52] <cherubiel> !register
[12:52] <trz> scott: /msg nick message
[12:52] <cherubiel> !register
[12:53] <suspectkboss> how do i change permissions for an external hard disk?
[12:53] <Carnage\> Mount it and change the permissions as you usually do....
[12:53] <suspectkboss> how do i mount it?
[12:53] <cherubiel> !mount
[12:54] <suspectkboss> but i don't know the name of the volume. sda3 or sumthing
[12:54] <trz> Right now fsck says that root inode is not a directory and suggests to clear it. After that it seems to try to do something on all inodes starting from some number - clear i_size, i_blocks and compression flag. Is that what I should do?
[12:54] <Carnage\> So you should try to get it to known :)
[12:54] <Crazyl1nk> how do i open .rar(s) with linux Winrar? *god i feel so stupid*
[12:54] <suspectkboss> i plugged it in, it got mounted to /media/New Volume
[12:54] <Carnage\> see fdisk -l <harddisk> to list all partitions
[12:55] <Carnage\> Crazyl1nk: Package "rar" or "unrar" and then (un)rar x file.rar
[12:55] <cherubiel> Crazyl1nk: use rar-free and unrar
[12:55] <statters> I installed qtparted and for some reason it will not recognise any hard drive, anyone know of any issues regarding qtparted and ubuntu?
[12:55] <demio> wtf
[12:55] <Crazyl1nk> i dont understand what you mean
[12:55] <demio> netsplit?
[12:55] <DarkMageZ> demio, yup
[12:55] <cherubiel> yeah, looks like one
[12:56] <suspectkboss> ok
[12:56] <timwizzy> Why does my gmail report "PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 554 <tom@timtech.myftp.biz>: Relay access denied" when I send to my email server timtech.myftp.biz
[12:56] <suspectkboss> how do i unmount it?
[12:56] <v3l0ct> see?
[12:56] <L3oN> wow good server!
[12:56] <SorinD`> wow..
[12:56] <mailinh> Stumpyfoot, me too
[12:56] <tiagoboldt> tiagoboldt@Niath:~$ java --help
[12:56] <tiagoboldt> Unrecognized option: --help
[12:56] <tiagoboldt> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[12:56] <mailinh> :d
[12:56] <{_-IcE-_}> fdoving: i was planning to set it up through the web interface but it says:
[12:56] <Stumpyfoot> and if i go to 1024x768 res it has 56hz and 60hz to choose from
[12:56] <{_-IcE-_}> Your authentication backend does not support adding users. If you wish to use Horde to administer user accounts, you must use a different authentication backend.
[12:56] <tiagoboldt> anyone can help?
[12:56] <Stumpyfoot> but it hurts my eyes at 60hz
[12:56] <Stumpyfoot> i hate it
[12:56] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: can you take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:56] <mailinh> power83, srry
[12:57] <magicmike> Hi all. I downloaded a newsreader nzbpower-0.1.1.tar.bz2 to my desktop. Can someone give me info on how to install it? Thanks.
[12:57] <suspectkboss> untar and run
[12:57] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_},
[12:57] <chronosoft> looking through CSS scripts for hours on 60hz is not fun
[12:57] <mailinh> try the database
[12:57] <Crazyl1nk> i dont understand how to open .RAR files on linux, anyone care to explain
[12:57] <Stumpyfoot> i can,... its open now in gedit
[12:57] <chronosoft> >.< i really should get down to tracking down the problem
[12:57] <cherubiel> !rar
[12:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:57] <mailinh> how you authentication, power83
[12:57] <v3l0ct> magicmike, you'll have to compile it
[12:57] <L3oN> can you hep me ?
[12:57] <fnf> magicmike: Have you compile a package before ?
[12:57] <L3oN> *help
[12:57] <power83> mailinh, what you are speaking?
[12:57] <mailinh> i think you change the way authentication :)
[12:58] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: Find 'Monitor' section
[12:58] <mailinh> and it will works :)
[12:58] <suspectkboss> how do i unmount a volume>
[12:58] <suspectkboss> ?
[12:58] <magicmike> No. That's why I'm asking. Once taught, can do again. Thanks
[12:58] <mailinh> but wat is your mail server
[12:58] <{_-IcE-_}> dovecot
[12:58] <Stumpyfoot> yup
[12:58] <Stumpyfoot> got it
[12:58] <Crazyl1nk> can i open .rar files without winrar?
[12:58] <L3oN> pls
[12:58] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_}, the webmail will querry the imap server
[12:58] <BelialMkII> suspectkboss, umount /dev/hdblah
[12:58] <mailinh> if there is valid user, it will login
[12:58] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: It should have two options 'HorizSync' and 'VertRefresh', what do they say ?
[12:58] <{_-IcE-_}> i removed the imap mailinh, i just want pop
[12:59] <Roy> hello
[12:59] <mailinh> oke, it will try pop too
[12:59] <Stumpyfoot> HorizSync	28-51 VertRefresh	43-60
[12:59] <BelialMkII> Crazyl1nk, Read what the bot said above, it gives instructions there
[12:59] <L3oN> Crazyl1nk: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:59] <mailinh> you will config that in imp
[12:59] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_},
[12:59] <Roy> anybody can helkp me with the ubuntu sistem?
[12:59] <suspectkboss> okay done
[12:59] <Roy> im really new with linix
[12:59] <cherubiel> magicmike: some downloads are precompiled for a platform, or it coulod be source whihc you'd need to compile
[12:59] <suspectkboss> now how do i mount it with write permisions
[12:59] <suspectkboss> ?
[12:59] <cherubiel> magicmike: do a tar -zxvf <name>
[01:00] <Roy> i got the ubuntu cd live 5.04
[01:00] <BelialMkII> suspectkboss, what kind of partition is it
[01:00] <cherubiel> magicmike: that should open up the file for ya
[01:00] <mailinh> oek, or tar -jxvf
[01:00] <suspectkboss> it's an external hdd
[01:00] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: It's not really 'free to change', as you probably be aware of, the horiz and vert refresh don't exceed 60Hz, that's why Ubuntu won't show any refresh rate above 60
[01:00] <mailinh> if .tar.bz2
[01:00] <suspectkboss> it's at sdg
[01:00] <cherubiel> magicmike: was it a .bz2, use what mailinh said then
[01:00] <Roy> and the thing it's for example "can i install some new advise in ubuntu sistem?"
[01:01] <Stumpyfoot> but y does windoze support higher refresh then
[01:01] <magicmike> it's a bz2.
[01:01] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: you may want to increase the upper range for both of them a bit, try 75Hn first
[01:01] <L3oN> nobody can help me?
[01:01] <{_-IcE-_}> i think there's some kind of setting somewere to disallow full control through the web interface for security reasons
[01:01] <BelialMkII> suspectkboss, fat32 ext3 etc erc
[01:01] <suspectkboss>  oh. No idea
[01:01] <suspectkboss> how do i fin out?
[01:01] <cherubiel> suspectkboss: use fdisk -l
[01:01] <Stumpyfoot> ok im going to restart x.. brb
[01:02] <cosmodad> what's the difference between the packages "flashplugin-nonfree" and "libflash-mozplugin"? Which one should I install to enable flash in firefox?
[01:02] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_}, no
[01:02] <suspectkboss> it says Novell Netware 86
[01:02] <suspectkboss> 386
[01:03] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_}, you could research more in horde's docs
[01:03] <lucrezia> hi
[01:03] <mailinh> you will find more interesting ^^,
[01:03] <L3oN> hi
[01:03] <suspectkboss> no wait
[01:03] <suspectkboss> that partition is empty
[01:03] <suspectkboss> the system is just "unknown"
[01:04] <lucrezia> hello dudes, i've a BIG problem, i hope u can help me. I've Ubuntu 6.06. I gotta print a pdf document, and i want to print two pages on a sheet. How can i do it? (i want to print first pair pages, then not pair pages)
[01:04] <StumpyFoot> alright.. thanks very much guys its at 75hz now.. no more flicker
[01:04] <fnf> Stumpyfoot: great!
[01:04] <StumpyFoot> I really appreciate your help
[01:04] <StumpyFoot> woot
[01:05] <StumpyFoot> I would offer you a beverage but liquids and electrics kinda dont go well together
[01:05] <{_-IcE-_}> mailinh: just did... changed it to allow su users to login only and have full control, now im out and cant get in lol... editing through ssh..
[01:05] <lucrezia> please dudes help me
[01:05] <euly> Hi people. Do you know, how I can capture the sound that my soundcard plays? I tried "dd if=/dev/audio of=sound.raw" but it says the audio device is busy.
[01:05] <cosmodad> lucrezia: if your printer doesn't support direct 2-on-1 printing, you could transfer the PDF into a PS file, convert the file with PS tools and than (after optionally reconverting it to PDF) print it
[01:05] <cosmodad> lucrezia: s/than/then/
[01:06] <cherubiel> !audacity
[01:06] <StumpyFoot> see you all later.. cheers.. keep up the great work
[01:06] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[01:06] <cherubiel> euly: use ^^ ?
[01:06] <mailinh> ;))
[01:06] <fnf> euly: try searching for a 'sound recorder'
[01:06] <sonics> hm i could need an advise.. i was using windows up until 2days ago..I got a windows partition with 30gig, a linux part with 10 gig and a partition to download stuff for 40 gig.. the downloadpartition is in FAT32 tho, should  I change it to ext3???
[01:07] <euly> cherubiel: whats "^^" ?
[01:07] <cherubiel> euly: try killing esd, from the ps listing - that could be holding back the device
[01:07] <mailinh> oke, {_-IcE-_} , try more, ty, good luck
[01:07] <cherubiel> euly: read waht the bot said
[01:07] <cherubiel> !audacity
[01:07] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[01:07] <cosmodad> sonics: that depends on whether you wanna share stuff between Linux and Windows
[01:07] <fnf> sonics: as long as you don;t want to share any date from that partition to Windows, you s\probably should
[01:07] <euly> cherubiel: what bot?
[01:08] <sonics> cosmodad: yeah well because all filenames are in strange format there..
[01:08] <cherubiel> euly: see ubotu's replies
[01:08] <sonics> cosmodad: probably would be better to change.. if I split it up in 2 partitions, will linux auto recognize the new ext3 one?
[01:08] <suspectkboss> how do i change the permissions
[01:09] <cherubiel> sonics: you'd need to mount it
[01:09] <cosmodad> sonics: I think you can fix the strange-looking problem by mounting the windows-partition with a special option
[01:09] <suspectkboss> i mounted the drive
[01:09] <sonics> cherubiel: Id have to change fstab ?!
[01:09] <cosmodad> sonics: like tell it what kind of character setting you wish
[01:09] <suspectkboss> but now it says "You don't have the necessary permissions"
[01:09] <cherubiel> sonics: yeah, you could have an entry in fstab
[01:09] <euly> cherubiel: i want to capture the sound that is played on my soundcart. like when watching youtube videos or listening to web-radio.
[01:09] <sacker> Finally got my video card working under 686 :d
[01:09] <cherubiel> s/have/add
[01:09] <sacker> :D
[01:09] <euly> im not looking for a soundeditor.
[01:10] <fnf> euly: apt-cache search sound recorder
[01:10] <Genscher> hey :)
[01:11] <gilnim> hey
[01:11] <thor> euly, you might also check out streamripper
[01:11] <euly> fnf: that puts out a lot of stuff
[01:11] <Genscher> i have some old ati rage pro 128. is there a way to activate the video/tv-out of the grafic card under ubuntu?
[01:11] <gilnim> where do i find the "RGB GLX visual"?
[01:11] <sonics> another problem i got with running ysm in a terminal, if I only press PAGEUP it writes:~ - i need to hold shift+pageup in order to scroll, is there any solution to this issue ?!:)
[01:11] <cosmodad> sonics: in any way, you need to backup the data on the download partition before you convert it to ext3 unless it's already ext3
[01:12] <cherubiel> euly: audcity supports sound recodring too, check out the pacakge
[01:12] <fnf> euly: yup, that means you have a lot of choices, pick one, I don't know what to recommen here either.
[01:12] <sonics> cosmodad: alright :) i will do
[01:12] <euly> thor: i dont want a prog for a specific type of media. i would like to just dump the sound thats send to the soundcard to disk.
[01:12] <euly> fnf: i dont want a prog for a specific type of media. i would like to just dump the sound thats send to the soundcard to disk.
[01:12] <euly> cherubiel: i dont want a prog for a specific type of media. i would like to just dump the sound thats send to the soundcard to disk :)
[01:13] <cherubiel> euly: did you even see what audacity does? its list of features??
[01:13] <cherubiel> euly: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/features
[01:13] <fnf> euly: sure, they're all sound recorders. Btw, if you're running Ubuntu desktop, there's already one in Applications
[01:13] <hoelk> hmm
[01:13] <euly> cherubiel: its not possible to intercept whats sent to a device and save it to disc?
[01:13] <hoelk> how to upgrade to another distribution?
[01:14] <hoelk> hh
[01:14] <hoelk> new version
[01:14] <hoelk> i meant
[01:14] <sonics> another problem i got with running ysm in a terminal, if I only press PAGEUP it writes:~ - i need to hold shift+pageup in order to scroll, is there any solution to this issue ?!:)
[01:14] <hoelk> im on dapper and want to migrate to edgy
[01:14] <euly> fnf: yes, there is a soundrecorder, but it says sound is not properly installed, go to multimedia settings. but where are the multimedia settings?
[01:14] <CyberWorking> edgy?
[01:14] <L3oN> edgy rulez!!!!
[01:14] <CyberWorking> dapper is version 6 ?
[01:14] <hoelk> yes
[01:14] <CyberWorking> or is edgy vs ^?
[01:15] <CyberWorking> 6*
[01:15] <cherubiel> euly: rawrec or sound-recorder
[01:15] <CyberWorking> so there has been a new release after 6.06?
[01:16] <fnf> euly: that's another abnormality in Ubuntu desktop's shipped gadgets, you may try to use arecord or one of the listed recorders.
[01:16] <cosmodad> I've just installed flash and called "sudo update-flashplugin" as told in the Ubuntu Guide but if I try that I get: "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes". Help?
[01:16] <Genscher> anyone for my video-out problem?
[01:16] <cosmodad> I definitely don't have networking problems
[01:16] <fnf> euly: my bad, arecord records to microphone, doh
[01:17] <cherubiel> euly: try sox as well, if all else fails - use sys/soundcard.h :P
[01:17] <fnf> euly: sound-recorder - Direct-to-disk recording and play-back programs.
[01:17] <euly> cherubiel: rawrec -d=/dev/audio test
[01:17] <euly> cherubiel: rawrec: could not open =/dev/audio for reading: No such file or directory
[01:18] <cherubiel> euly: /dev/dsp
[01:18] <cherubiel> euly: wait, your audio drivers are working OK right?
[01:18] <euly> cherubiel: rawrec: could not open =/dev/dsp for reading: No such file or directory
[01:18] <euly> cherubiel: at least i hear sound :)
[01:19] <{_-IcE-_}> i think i give up on horde... any other *simple to setup* webmail for pop ;) ?
[01:19] <euly> ice: i love horde!
[01:20] <sonics> if I run screen, why aint pageup/pagedown scrolling working :(
[01:20] <suspectkboss> hello?
[01:20] <suspectkboss> please help
[01:21] <{_-IcE-_}> euly : cant get to log in as admin correctly... i arranged the authentication backend ... set my username to be logged in as a power user, but still i cant add users, etc.. due to permissions
[01:21] <suspectkboss> why can't i write to an external HDD?
[01:21] <euly> ice: sorry, i use a preinstalled version of my webhosting company.
[01:21] <Lynoure> suspectkboss: probably not enough permissions
[01:21] <BooBar> CyberWorking: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyReleaseCandidate
[01:21] <suspectkboss> i have write permissions
[01:21] <{_-IcE-_}> euly hehe
[01:21] <suspectkboss> it's a rw drive
[01:21] <CyberWorking> thanks
[01:21] <{_-IcE-_}> we use horde at work too
[01:21] <{_-IcE-_}> but dunno who set it up
[01:21] <{_-IcE-_}> :p
[01:22] <mnepton> {_-IcE-_}: got PHP and MySQL? if so, look at RoundCube.
[01:22] <Lynoure> suspectkboss: just in case, what are the permissions on it exactly?
[01:22] <{_-IcE-_}> yep i have
[01:23] <suspectkboss> +rwx
[01:23] <{_-IcE-_}> its this going to seem like an impossible task to accomplish :P ?
[01:23] <suspectkboss> i dont know why x is there though
[01:23] <suspectkboss> drwxr-xr-x
[01:24] <thor> suspectkboss: only the owner of that drive can write to it. Who owns it?
[01:25] <suspectkboss> root
[01:25] <suspectkboss> so i'm using sudo
[01:25] <suspectkboss> but the error i get is "this is a read only filesystem"
[01:25] <thor> what format is the drive?
[01:26] <suspectkboss> i don't know. fdisk says it's "unknown"
[01:26] <sonics> hmm which torrent client do you guys recommen?
[01:26] <thor> what does 'mount' say for type?
[01:27] <wickedpuppy> sonics, ktorrent or azureus
[01:27] <suspectkboss> ahhh
[01:27] <suspectkboss> now i got it. it's ntfs
[01:27] <thor> no writing to ntfs
[01:27] <wickedpuppy> !fuse
[01:27] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:27] <sonics> wickedpuppy: how do I install ktorrent
[01:28] <suspectkboss> any plans in future versions?
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> sonics, the same way you install every other apps in ubuntu?
[01:28] <sonics> wickedpuppy: apt-get install ktorrent?
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> suspectkboss, read what ubotu says about fuse
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> sonics, bingo :P
[01:28] <sonics> jaaaaaaackpot
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> sudo of course
[01:28] <sonics> ye
[01:29] <suspectkboss> it says some stuff and then it says WARNING
[01:29] <suspectkboss> so i guess it means im not going to try it
[01:29] <sonics> is anyone using screen here?
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> suspectkboss, good idea too ...
[01:29] <Lynoure> yes
[01:29] <sonics> are u able to scroll by just pressing page up?
[01:30] <sonics> cos Im not able to scroll there:(
[01:30] <suspectkboss> how unfortunate
[01:30] <Lynoure> sonics: in irssi, yes, in console, no
[01:30] <SirKillalot> how can I change the widget theme in ubuntu for the root user
[01:30] <SirKillalot> I mean everything seems to be ugly when I have to type in my password
[01:30] <Lynoure> sonics: but my screen is not on ubuntu.
[01:30] <SirKillalot> i.e. to start synaptics
[01:31] <suspectkboss> is there a gui frontend for bash commands?
[01:31] <sonics> Lynoure: ok:( because my problem is when I use ysm, I cant check old messages throu scrolling
[01:31] <sonics> Lynoure: ic :D
[01:31] <altereg0> suspectkboss, alt-F2, type your commands
[01:31] <suspectkboss> dude no
[01:31] <Lynoure> sonics: (debian, though, so close)
[01:31] <suspectkboss> that's not what i meant
[01:32] <altereg0> suspectkboss, OK - what did you mean ?
[01:32] <altereg0> :)
[01:32] <dumr> hey
[01:32] <sonics> Lynoure: ok I just wanted to know whether theres a way to scroll in ysm when using screen
[01:32] <dumr> need help
[01:32] <suspectkboss> 4get
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> suspectkboss, he wants vb like bash
[01:32] <sonics> cos I just love screen ;(
[01:32] <dumr> what is name of debian toolbar
[01:32] <cosmodad> can anyone get flash 7 to work in Dapper? I tried the "update-flashplugin" approach but it tells me upstream is broken
[01:32] <dumr> to show all the programs
[01:33] <sholden> I'm trying to install in edgy, and "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx libxorg-sched-yield-hack0" is telling me that it cannot find package libxorg-sched-yield-hack0.  I have "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com edgy lrm" in my sources.list.  Anyone have any ideas?
[01:33] <Lynoure> sonics: sorry, no idea about ysm...
[01:33] <sonics> Lynoure: you using icq?!
[01:33] <Lynoure> sonics: no
[01:33] <sonics> ok ,D
[01:33] <Lynoure> sonics: irc, just like the rest of us :)
[01:33] <sholden> trying to install beryl that is
[01:33] <sonics> Lynoure: yeah, I wished all of my fellas would use irc ;/
[01:33] <Lynoure> sonics: I never grew very fond of the gazillion of IM systems
[01:34] <sonics> Lynoure: yeah, irc simply rocks in comparison with icq
[01:34] <Lynoure> sonics: get them trillian and it will be easy for them
[01:34] <SirKillalot> can I change the widget theme to be used with the root account on ubuntu? (the windows look ugly when I have to start a program with root rights (i.e. synaptics))
[01:34] <sonics> Lynoure: there are some women too, meaning it would be senseless to tell m haha
[01:34] <Lynoure> sonics: grrrrr
[01:35] <Lynoure> sonics: I'm a woman, thank you very much!
[01:35] <Lynoure> sonics: and I've been on irc 15 years
[01:35] <BooBar> sholden: i follow this install http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[01:35] <brush01uk> Greetings All   ( have a good day )
[01:35] <sonics> Lynoure: woohoopps, my bad- sorry.. a fluke there
[01:35] <magicmike> She's a Woman!
[01:35] <hariseldon> hi all, I have a question: I'm trying to play avi (divx/mp3) files with mplayer, and it gets huge delays or choppy playback when using -framedrop. When playing with -nosound it goes smoothly, so I would like to know if it's possible to improve sound playback performance
[01:36] <altereg0> Lynoure, stereotypes die hard - a lot of people don't even know that many computer pioneers were women
[01:36] <Subhuman> hariseldon, are you using the correct 3d drivers?
[01:36] <svu_> anyone using LDAP authentication with edgy eft?
[01:36] <hariseldon> Subhuma: i've installed nvidia legacy drivers (geforce2 gts)
[01:36] <Subhuman> non-accelated drivers can make the cpu strain for video - and the audio suffers since it requires cpu time too.
[01:36] <hariseldon> Subhuma: and using -vo xv
[01:37] <Subhuman> hmm.
[01:37] <Lynoure> altereg0: Yes, I've noticed. But this time it was more annoying than usually. It's not like guys are born to Linux
[01:37] <Subhuman> odd, i normally get issues when the driver is screwed, but never when its there.
[01:37] <altereg0> Lynoure, of course
[01:37] <L3oN> but some screen server puts cpu to 100%
[01:37] <L3oN> is it true '
[01:37] <L3oN> ?
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> Lynoure, guys are born to chase skirts ..
[01:38] <dumr>  i am searching for debian menu in k menu
[01:38] <hariseldon> Subhuman: how can I check that the video driver is working fine?
[01:38] <sonics> Lynoure: im sorry, I was just pointing at the women that are in my list... didnt want to make you sad;)
[01:38] <altereg0> wickedpuppy, some might say guys are born with their brain ... in the wrong part of their anatomy ;)
[01:38] <Lynoure> wickedpuppy: makes it clear why women now prefer pants. (#ubuntu-offtopic ?)
[01:38] <brush01uk> Hi can anyone help please ref  on playing   e.g  AVI's  / I am a new user the past few weeks,well used Easy Ubuntu & every thing worked great,
[01:38] <dumr>  i am searching for debian menu in k menu
[01:39] <Lynoure> dumr: ubuntu is not Debian as such, so no such thing
[01:39] <dumr> or just something that shows all programs in menu
[01:39] <dumr> yes it is
[01:39] <dumr> i had it
[01:39] <dumr> then i formated
[01:39] <altereg0> dumr, you can install the "manu" package to get a debian menu
[01:39] <dumr> i had debian submenu
[01:39] <altereg0> umm "menu"
[01:39] <altereg0> !menu
[01:39] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.27 (dapper), package size 367 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[01:40] <altereg0> !menu-xdg
[01:40] <ubotu> menu-xdg: freedesktop.org menu compliant window manager scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.2 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 72 kB
[01:40] <brush01uk> yesterday  reformed drive & re installed every thing again, now  e.g AVI's try to play  only for a second & will not play  ( WHY )  ?
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> brush01uk, using what to play ? i use vlc
[01:41] <brush01uk> YES
[01:42] <brush01uk> VLC  E.G  FRIDAY  EVERY THING WORKED
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> well then no idea .. check for lame codecs and such ....
[01:42] <sholden> Does anyone have latest info with installing nvidia drivers?  Do i still need the libxorg-sched-yield-hack0 package?
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> brush01uk, shouting won't help ... i am going for dinner .. good luck :P
[01:43] <Lynoure> sonics: made me more angry than sad. But if they are local newbies, just install the software for them and adjust the settings. Or try a step by step instructions, most people can do those
[01:43] <brush01uk> YESTERDAY AFTER REFORMAT RE INSTALLED EVERYTHING AS BEFORE   SORRY CAPS STUCK ON
[01:43] <brush01uk> aaaaaaaaaaAAAA
[01:43] <sonics> Lynoure: alright :) Im gonna try :)
[01:43] <brush01uk> sorry
[01:44] <Lynoure> sonics: good luck (and no, I won't be angry forever :) )
[01:44] <kane77> hi
[01:44] <brush01uk> Thankyou, for info  wickedpuppy
[01:45] <sonics> Lynoure: lucky me;) ill try giving them a steptostep intro
[01:46] <bonzai10> hello
[01:46] <kane77> how do I set the screen resolution to STAY at what I want it... in gnome it's no problem, but in fluxbox I set it to 1024*768 but next time its set back to 1280x1024...
[01:46] <trz> Okay.
[01:46] <joona> kane77: check your xorg.conf
[01:47] <bonzai10> try ~./fluxbox config
[01:47] <trz> After running fsck, all my partition is blank, except for lost+found which contains only junk.
[01:47] <altereg0`> kane77,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and remove 1280x1024
[01:47] <trz> Is there any way I could recover it?
[01:47] <altereg0`> kane77, assuming you don't need it of course
[01:47] <hariseldon> Does anyone know if it's possible to improve sound performance installing specific drivers the same way nvidia drivers improves video performance?
[01:48] <brush01uk>  will return  ,re booting  &  try another keyboard   :-)
[01:48] <Blissex> hariseldon: probably nobody knows.
[01:48] <visik7> hariseldon: ?
[01:48] <visik7> hariseldon: if your producer releases specific drivers for linux yes
[01:48] <kane77> altereg0`, thanx, i basicaly dont need it... the refresh rate is 60Hz so I dont like it very much
[01:48] <Blissex> trz: that sounds like very bad news.
[01:48] <trz> Lost everything?
[01:48] <altereg0`> hariseldon, that would be highly hardware-specific if such exist
[01:49] <hariseldon> it's for a sound blaster pci 64, I'm currently using alsa
[01:49] <cosmodad> trz: did you apply the correct filesystem paramete?
[01:49] <trz> Yay. It's 12G big. I mean lost+found.
[01:49] <joona> kane77: try 1152x864
[01:49] <altereg0`> hariseldon, alsa is an architecture, not a driver
[01:49] <trz> Actually, that's a long story.
[01:49] <joona> i get decent refresh rate with it
[01:50] <kane77> err... what is the bus identifier for integrated cards?
[01:50] <altereg0`> hariseldon, you *need* alsa :)
[01:50] <joona> and yet it is a bit bigger than 1024x768 :)
[01:50] <altereg0`> kane77, accept the default and move on
[01:50] <trz> Ran fsck with no params, wrote "yes" a couple of times. Became suspicious, so stopped it and rebooted.
[01:50] <hariseldon> altereg0: oh, I see. then Ensoniq it's de driver?
[01:50] <cosmodad> trz: eek
[01:50] <trz> The system wouldn't boot from hdd by any means.
[01:50] <hariseldon> (Ensoniq ES1371)
[01:50] <trz> So I booted from livecd.
[01:50] <Lynoure> sonics: if you always get the pgup to work right outside screen, try configuring that to some other key, if you can, too
[01:50] <spedan1> hello
[01:50] <cosmodad> trz: why did you execute fsck in the first place?
[01:50] <altereg0`> kane77, you only need to change the resolution settings - accept defaults for all the other questions
[01:51] <kane77> is it OK to leave the dedicated memory blank?
[01:51] <altereg0`> kane77, yes
[01:51] <kane77> my card is GF6100
[01:51] <trz> Finally ran fsck with no params except for /dev/hda7, and said yes to everything. And I ended up with everything piled up in lost+found.
[01:51] <sonics> Lynoure: okay, thnkz^_^ however I do this*g*
[01:51] <spedan1> there is a people whant help me??
[01:51] <altereg0`> kane77,  "accept all the defaults except the one you are changing"
[01:51] <cosmodad> trz: what what the cause of filesystem gabbish?
[01:52] <trz> cosmodad: That's kind of awkward now, but I wouldn't expect it to hurt so much. Just wanted to see if everything's alright because Azureus made my system hang.
[01:52] <trz> Excuse me?
[01:52] <bonzai10> well now it is my turn to ask a question xD. Is it possible that i save session in gnome and next time windows will open in exact location at exact workspace ?
[01:52] <Lynoure> sonics: this too might help you, http://archive.lug.boulder.co.us/Week-of-Mon-20041206/028861.html
[01:52] <spedan1> i have a problem
[01:52] <spedan1> my processor is always 100% work
[01:53] <Lynoure> sonics: sorry, I still know nothing about ysm. :)
[01:53] <spedan1> any people know the reason??
[01:53] <Scorpmoon> doing a dist-upgrade while having multiverse repositories active, is that different than having them not active?
[01:53] <cosmodad> trz: usually when you have to hit yes a bunch of times it's because of inodes fixes and stuff like that but that's hard to tell without the exact error messages
[01:53] <altereg0`> hariseldon, try  lsmod | grep snd     to see your sound drivers
[01:54] <sonics> weee, Lynoure exactly what I searched for, thanx =))
[01:54] <trz> cosmodad: Yes, it was like it. Actually, for the first (and doomed) time I didn't really remember the messages. Then I cleared the journal, which sounded suspicious, then root inode, and then there was a big big list of inode changes.
[01:54] <cosmodad> trz: you cleared the journal yourself or because fsck asked you to do so?
[01:55] <effraie> some edgy-ppc users here?
[01:55] <trz> cosmodad: fsck.
[01:55] <hariseldon> altereg0`: the first one is snd_ens1371
[01:55] <altereg0`> hariseldon, sounds like the one for your card then
[01:55] <cosmodad> trz: geez. :/ sadly, I'm not much of a fsck pro. If there's a bunch of stuff in lost+found, however, I guess there's some way to recover
[01:56] <altereg0`> hariseldon, why do you want to change it? Not good enough?
[01:56] <trz> It seems everything is in there, and nothing is anywhere else.
[01:56] <hariseldon> altereg0`: I get bad performance on mplayer, and tought it could be because of the sound (with -nosound it plays ok)
[01:56] <trz> cosmodad: I've had 12G of data on that partition, and that's exactly the size of lost+found
[01:56] <effraie> hariseldon: ping
[01:57] <altereg0`> hariseldon, more likely an mplayer config problem I think
[01:57] <cosmodad> hariseldon: does the video "hang"?
[01:57] <cosmodad> trz: so you might try copying some files from l+f and check if it works
[01:57] <effraie> hariseldon: are you who ithink you are?
[01:57] <hariseldon> cosmodad: no, it gets delays, or choppy if I turn -framedrop
[01:57] <cosmodad> trz: I'd make a backup of everything and then try
[01:57] <hariseldon> effraie: don't think so, first time here :)
[01:57] <effraie> ok, sorry
[01:58] <cosmodad> hariseldon: if you have some cheap (built-in) soundcard, you might need to adjust the sampling rate from 44100 to 48000 (or vice versa)
[01:58] <trz> I tried to execute something from there, it seems to contain "normal" files.
[01:58] <trz> They're just all in one directory, and all have names like #\d+
[01:58] <cosmodad> hariseldon: I think it's the -af parameter, you'll have to look it up in the manpage
[01:58] <hariseldon> cosmodad: ok thanks, I'll check it
[01:58] <kane77> altereg0`, thx now its OK :D :D :D
[01:59] <altereg0`> kane77,  enjoy :)
[01:59] <altereg0`> kane77, fluxbox FTW !
[01:59] <josh__> whats up people, how do i share out my files so i can access them outside the network without having to ftp in and download them
[01:59] <kane77> altereg0`, where did you learn all this stuff?
[01:59] <usamahashimi> hi all
[01:59] <josh__> or using freenx
[01:59] <altereg0`> kane77, misspent middle age ;)
[01:59] <cosmodad> trz: AFAIK there's no way to get back the original name, but you really wanna look that up again
[02:00] <kane77> :)
[02:00] <usamahashimi> is there any graphical software by which i can easily add remove startup services?
[02:00] <bonzai10> well is there any more advanced session manager in gnome than orginal ?
[02:00] <josh__> altereg0`: i wouldn't call it misspent... if you were using windows... thats when you call it misspent
[02:00] <kane77> altereg0`, so i still have time ;D
[02:00] <cosmodad> trz: maybe try #debian (but don't say you're from ubuntu ;) ) or #linux or google
[02:00] <altereg0`> kane77, I'm here under false pretences actually - my usual nick is thoreauputic
[02:00] <cosmodad> trz: but backup first
[02:00] <Scorpmoon> how do I assign a group to a user without using useradd ?
[02:00] <Scorpmoon> useradd creates a new user, not updates, right?
[02:00] <altereg0`> kane77, luckily for all present I don't have ops on this install ... yet
[02:01] <altereg0`> mwuhahah!
[02:01] <bonzai10> or where is session config saved to ?
[02:01] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: sure it can just update
[02:01] <josh__> go to system settings -> accounts -> change it there
[02:01] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: but use adduser
[02:01] <s_> alguien habla espanol
[02:01] <josh__> but usermod is easier
[02:01] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: adduser <user> <group>
[02:01] <Scorpmoon> cosmo, why are there two commands
[02:01] <kane77> altereg0`, I just downloaded some linuxCBT's on debian, hope that it will help me gain skills...
[02:01] <trz> Thanks.
[02:01] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: afaik, adduser is more "higher-level"
[02:02] <josh__> sudo usermod -g (little g for inital group/G for secondary groups) group1 user
[02:02] <altereg0`> kane77, anything about debian is pretty much transferable to Ubuntu
[02:02] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: basically, just always use adduser
[02:02] <Scorpmoon> cosmodad, can I priv msg you
[02:02] <altereg0`> kane77, in terms of knowledge at least
[02:02] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: only if you think you really cannot help anyone else with your problem
[02:02] <usamahashimi> I heard that firefox2 will be out on tuesday, could we install it by apt?
[02:02] <josh__> then you would just sudo usermod -G group1,group2,group3,etc user
[02:02] <Scorpmoon> cosmodad, channel traffic is too heavy for anyone to benefit from anything :)
[02:03] <altereg0`> usamahashimi, it will be interesting to see if it makes it into edgy by thursday :)
[02:03] <cosmodad> Scorpmoon: well then, go ahead (but also consider what josh__ said)
[02:03] <kane77> altereg0`, yes, that is mostly covering terminal use, commands and configuration so I guess its the same in ubuntu..
[02:03] <exhale> is ut2004 in the repositories?
[02:03] <usamahashimi> altereg0`: and what about dapper?
[02:04] <altereg0`> kane77, sudo aptitude install apt-howto && apt-howto
[02:04] <j2daosh> exhale, apt-cache search ut2004
[02:04] <altereg0`> :)
[02:04] <j2daosh> if you see it then yes... if you don't... then no
[02:04] <altereg0`> usamahashimi, dapper only gets security and bugfixes
[02:04] <altereg0`> usamahashimi, so i doubt that FF 2.0 will be in dapper
[02:05] <kane77> altereg0`, correct me, but I think ubuntu made gui for settings, but through terminal the use is same as in debian
[02:05] <chronosoft> if you really want to test drive FF 2.0...
[02:05] <usamahashimi> altereg0`: hmm, so no firefox2 through apt :(
[02:05] <chronosoft> i suggest you pick up the Swiftfox builds of FF2
[02:05] <j2daosh> kane you are basically correct
[02:05] <chronosoft> :)
[02:05] <exhale> thanks for the tip j2daosh
[02:05] <altereg0`> usamahashimi, probably not, but I'm not a developer... so .... not certain
[02:05] <chronosoft> http://www.getswiftfox.com/
[02:05] <j2daosh> np exhale
[02:06] <j2daosh> altereg0`: it also depends on your repos ;P
[02:06] <altereg0`> kane77, in general debian and ubuntu use the same CLI commands, yes
[02:06] <usamahashimi> altereg0`: actually i like insallation through apt more as compared to manual installation
[02:06] <effraie> any ppc-user on edgy, here?
[02:06] <Scorpmoon> where is that glorious user management tutorial for ubuntu?
[02:06] <altereg0`> j2daosh, well, 3rd party or backports might do 2.0 - dunno
[02:06] <kane77> ok have to go, people.. see you around!
[02:07] <j2daosh> haven't tried suse linux yet (just downloaded it), but from what i have seen it looks like it uses a similiar cli also
[02:07] <DarkMageZ> usamahashimi, firefox 2.0 will most likely not make it to dapper. dapper will mostly only be receiving updates for security and patches to fix bugs.
[02:07] <exhale> i installed a package called "freedoom" from the repos but when i type freedom in the terminal it says command not found
[02:07] <j2daosh> obviously the apt commands wont be there
[02:07] <altereg0`> exhale, spelling?
[02:07] <cosmodad> exhale: maybe try "freedoom" instead of "freedom"
[02:07] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. little question about ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc etc .. I know you can use that with apt to get the same packages that the CD comes with, but how can I toss some of those packages after the fact? Like I don't use Totem, but it makes Ubuntu-desktop go with it ..
[02:07] <exhale> that was a typo
[02:07] <altereg0`> exhale,  feedoom != freedom
[02:07] <altereg0`> ;)
[02:07] <j2daosh> exhale: sudo updatedb;locate freedoom|grep /bin/
[02:07] <altereg0`> OK
[02:07] <usamahashimi> DarkMageZ: yeah, i heard that, thanks by the way
[02:08] <exhale> j2daosh, didnt find anything :(
[02:08] <j2daosh> then try locate free|grep doom
[02:08] <j2daosh> sudo ofcourse
[02:09] <cosmodad> exhale: you could check what files come with that package by using "dpkg -L <package-name>
[02:09] <cosmodad> "
[02:09] <exhale> ah i see.. it was only a wad file
[02:10] <cosmodad> exhale: they want you to buy DooM anyway ;)
[02:10] <j2daosh> that would be why it didn't load then ;)
[02:10] <exhale> :P
[02:11] <Rodrigo_Gomes> Hello
[02:11] <j2daosh> ok guys... how can i stream a dvd in my dvd rom to my work computer im on right now? without the quality sucking hard
[02:11] <cosmodad> exhale: there's a bunch more of doom packages, maybe one contains the binary
[02:11] <j2daosh> hello
[02:11] <exhale> cosmodad, idk. its not free (?)
[02:11] <j2daosh> apt-cache search doom|grep binary
[02:11] <altereg0`> NineTeen67Comet,  uninstalling ubuntu-desktop won't remove anything - it's a metapackage - just be sure to reinstall it before updating to the another version ( like dapper >> edgy)
[02:11] <Rodrigo_Gomes> I'm having some problems related to the nvidia driver onmy ubuntu install :S
[02:11] <Rodrigo_Gomes> The problem is:
[02:11] <cosmodad> exhale: ID games did free some stuff of Doom, don't know exactly which one(s), however
[02:12] <pdaX> is there a way to install all the compiler-related packages off the DVD without selecting them all individually?
[02:12] <altereg0`> Rodrigo_Gomes, if you are about to paste : don't
[02:12] <NineTeen67Comet> altereg0`: aha .. that'll work then .. thank you .. I've been playing with edgy too on another partition .. good to know .. thanks again
[02:12] <chapolin> how do i mount a sd card in a built in sd card reader on my laptop?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> pdaX: build-essential
[02:13] <Rodrigo_Gomes> every reboot I get an error message saying that the X nvidia module (1.0-872) and the kernel module (1.0-7174) are different versions  when they should have the same version (1.0-8762), and then it gives mean error that it can't load the nvida kernel module
[02:13] <pdaX> gnomefreak: nice, thanks
[02:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:13] <j2daosh> !nvidia
[02:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:13] <chapolin> !sd
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <j2daosh> there Rodrigo_Gomes
[02:13] <Rodrigo_Gomes> ok
[02:13] <chapolin> !sdcard
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <timalot> are the sourceforge download mirrors down? ... i only get one mirror listed , and i cant connect
[02:15] <pdaX> timalot: yeah I noticed that earlier.. the one that was there worked fine for me, though
[02:15] <timalot> pdaX: yeah maybe its overloaded coz i can even get a response
[02:16] <gnomefreak> tomsku: what are you trying to grab from sourceforge?
[02:16] <timalot> s/can/cant/
[02:16] <Scorpmoon> how do i view all users on the system
[02:16] <gnomefreak> damn
[02:16] <Scorpmoon> not active users
[02:16] <gnomefreak> timalot: wwhat are you tryint o get from sourceforge?
[02:17] <pdaX> Scorpmoon: look in /etc/passwd
[02:17] <j2daosh> active users?
[02:17] <timalot> just some rss reader thing ...http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/newsnotif/news-notification_0.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb?download
[02:17] <j2daosh> like logged in now?
[02:17] <Zta> I've found and edgy-alternate-i386.iso which detect my JMicron SATA-II controller fine.  Does an edgy image of the ubuntu-server iso exist too?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> j2daosh,  "users" for active users
[02:18] <Zta> The ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso doesn't detect my hardware
[02:18] <j2daosh> oh i thought he had asked about active users
[02:18] <thoreauputic> j2daosh, no he wants a complete list
[02:18] <j2daosh> rgr
[02:18] <timalot> i gotta say tho that Blam is probably the best reader ive used for gnome... simple but effective
[02:19] <gnomefreak> timalot: its the mirror thats having issues atm
[02:19] <gnomefreak> timalot: do you know the real name of package?
[02:19] <j2daosh> i need to learn romanian... are there any packages for learning a new language? i see the ones for if im a romanian to setup my computer in romanian... but yeah... that would be stupid of me since i dont know it :P
[02:20] <j2daosh> blam - an RSS aggregator for GNOME
[02:20] <j2daosh> blam - an RSS aggregator for GNOME
[02:20] <j2daosh> sorry for double
[02:20] <timalot> gnomefreak: no .... i searched packages.ubuntu.org for "notification" but came up empty
[02:22] <Zta> Ah, found it: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-rc-server-i386.iso
[02:22] <i_an_> hi how do i run .deb packagers?
[02:22] <HYPOCRISY> I'll think about it
[02:22] <i_an_> like w32 codecs.de
[02:22] <j2daosh> packagers?
[02:22] <i_an_> packages i mean
[02:22] <bionoid> i_an_: dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:22] <j2daosh> dpkg -i /path/to/file
[02:22] <thoreauputic> i_an_, normally you don't - what are you trying to do, actually?
[02:23] <thoreauputic> i_an_, you only need that if you have a deb that isn't in the repositories
[02:23] <j2daosh> but its easier to do, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:23] <i_an_> install a package...what is -i for?
[02:23] <j2daosh> yes i_an_
[02:23] <gnomefreak> i_an_: -i is install
[02:23] <j2daosh> man dpkg
[02:23] <i_an_> ic....
[02:23] <j2daosh> that will give you all the switches
[02:24] <i_an_> where do i see the list of available manuals...sorry im new
[02:24] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: only issue with your way is its not in the repos
[02:24] <j2daosh> -i, -reconfigure, etc, etc...
[02:24] <j2daosh> gnome, it is... but only if you have the repos in your sources list
[02:24] <gnomefreak> i_an_: type man dpkg in terminal he means
[02:24] <thoreauputic> i_an_, the list is long :)  Start by typing  " man intro "
[02:24] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: they are 3rd party repos
[02:24] <j2daosh> yep
[02:24] <thoreauputic>  man intro is quite readable
[02:24] <i_an_> ok....lastly how will ubuntu detect my external dvd writer?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: if you forgot they are not a great idea to use
[02:25] <j2daosh> didn't forget, just never had a problem with them before
[02:25] <gnomefreak> you want a package from 3rd parrty repos use wget
[02:25] <Xenguy> hi - I notice that the /topic gives this: "nvidia driver has a security problem with a hotfix available from nvidia".  My question: are the security patches now merged into Ubuntu also?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: its fixed in latest update for nvidia
[02:25] <thoreauputic> i_an_, try plugging it in :) Usually these things just work ... never used an external dvd writer though...
[02:26] <gnomefreak> latest nvidia-glx package you have has the fix in it already
[02:26] <i_an_> i did plug it in and it said it cant mount
[02:26] <j2daosh> i_an_: i would assume it would work the same way an internal would (assuming it didn't come with a windows driver disk)
[02:26] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: I can't recall if I updated this specifically or not; would an apt-get upgrade have done the trick?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> yes
[02:27] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: my thanks
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: as long as your using teh nvidia-glx from repos
[02:27] <j2daosh> you might have to do it before your comp boots, or mount it as root
[02:27] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: yes
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: if your not sure run sudo apt-get update && sudoa pt-get dist-upgrade
[02:27] <gnomefreak> without the typos
[02:28] <gnomefreak> brb need more coffee
[02:28] <j2daosh> lol gnomefreak
[02:28] <j2daosh> im with you on that
[02:29] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: thanks again, I guess I was already good, just wanted to be sure tho :-)
[02:29] <hikenboot> hello all---anyone know why i can run in direct rendering yes mode when I log into the console as root and then startx but when I boot to a user thru grub it does not
[02:33] <timalot> hikenboot: u may need to add the dri permission option to xorg.conf
[02:33] <bonzai10> i have installed blam, any idea how to put it in system tray when clocing main window ?
[02:33] <exoticorn> hi
[02:33] <timalot> bonzai10: it doesnt do that
[02:33] <ninnghizidha> Where can i find libdvdcss?
[02:34] <bonzai10> damn
[02:34] <thoreauputic> !libdvdcss
[02:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:34] <bonzai10> is there any rss feed readew which works in systray ?
[02:34] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot!
[02:34] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:34] <hikenboot> timalot, tryed that option "dri" "mode 0777" or some such thing
[02:34] <exoticorn> does anyone know how to add ~/bin to the PATH in a way so that it is available to programs started from nautilus?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> bonzai10, liferea
[02:35] <timalot> hikenboot: it should be mode 0666 i think ...
[02:35] <bonzai10> thanx <thoreauputic>
[02:35] <thoreauputic> np :)
[02:35] <hikenboot> tryed that too
[02:36] <timalot> hikenboot: Section "DRI"
[02:36] <timalot> hikenboot:         Mode    0666
[02:36] <timalot> hikenboot:EndSection
[02:37] <hikenboot> I SWEAR i ALREADY TRIED THAT
[02:37] <timalot> hikenboot: fair enough
[02:43] <GMan> lo all any program to decompile files to assembly/
[02:44] <GMan> lo all any program to decompile files to assembl
[02:45] <j2daosh> got my coffee, had my smoke...
[02:45] <j2daosh> im ready to answer questions ;)
[02:45] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[02:46] <j2daosh> but first, riddle me this. if i want to stream a dvd movie from my home computer to my work computer (where im at now), how would i do that without having crappy quality?
[02:47] <j2daosh> sitting nex tto my my crown of king everything
[02:47] <j2daosh> vorbi romana?
[02:48] <j2daosh> who uses irssi?
[02:48] <spatieman> who not :)
[02:48] <j2daosh> is there a way to search the channel list?
[02:48] <snoops> vlc has streaming built in j2daosh
[02:49] <j2daosh> wha?!
[02:49] <j2daosh> oh snap
[02:49] <snoops> but well..you could just navigate to the network folders and play..then it all goes through that interface
[02:49] <j2daosh> im outsite the network at work
[02:50] <j2daosh> and i want to watch the vid using windows media player (freenx sucks up too much bandwidth to watch it that way
[02:51] <snoops> oh..umm not sure about that (don't think you can use windows media player) to watch a stream from vlc
[02:51] <snoops> and it's still gonna use a crazy amount of bandwidth
[02:51] <j2daosh> yeah but without me using freenx, bandwidth shouldn't be an issue
[02:51] <Lightenix> hi, anyone has any idea, why i cant compile some cpp file with gcc, and it works fine with g++?
[02:51] <j2daosh> freenx takes up about 30k/s
[02:52] <j2daosh> Lightenix: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:52] <j2daosh> Lightenix: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:52] <ProN00b> isn't freenx commercial ?
[02:52] <snoops> yep..and most movies (divx/xvid) want about 700kbit etc
[02:52] <snoops> that'd be "nx" not freenx ProN00b
[02:52] <mwe> it's build-essential
[02:53] <j2daosh> yeah that one mwe
[02:53] <j2daosh> :P
[02:53] <snoops> nx offers free desktop edition for up to 4 pcs of course
[02:53] <ProN00b> is it really better than the good old vnc ?
[02:54] <ProN00b> or even direct x access
[02:54] <snoops> it's so much faster than vnc
[02:54] <j2daosh> has much better compression ProN00b
[02:54] <snoops> rdp is one of my favourite protocols..and nx still beats it for me
[02:55] <ProN00b> rdp is slow as shit compared to a good vnc
[02:55] <snoops> hmm.. not over the net I've found
[02:55] <Studiosus> how to make  LILO from other linux boot Ubuntu?
[02:55] <ProN00b> snoops, you on 56k or something ?
[02:55] <snoops> 10mbit ;)
[02:55] <ProN00b> lol -_-
[02:56] <ProN00b> then you should maybe turn compression off to get better latency
[02:56] <Lightenix> nope still not working, here is the prog. and the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27808/
[02:56] <snoops> no, uses too much bandwidth that way.. we pay for data usage at work, so not realistic, especially when nx does it faster and can actually handle some motion
[02:57] <ProN00b> what does it use to compress ?
[02:57] <ProN00b> i mean there really isn't much better than zip
[02:58] <j2daosh> zlib
[02:58] <bonzai10> what command lists all demons ? and how do i close particular one ?
[02:58] <bonzai10> i know its kill something
[02:58] <j2daosh> daemons, and the command is going to be ps -ef
[02:58] <j2daosh> kill -9 pid
[02:59] <jpjacobs> bonzai, if you want to control what gets started on bootup, you can use bum
[02:59] <bonzai10> i just need something like Ctrl+ alt + del on windows - runing proceses
[02:59] <snoops> nx uses a range of methods to speed things up.. it compresses images (not sure of the algorithm used), it implements a few things on the client to reduce having to send them over - window sets for instance.. and sends it all over an encrypted ssh connection
[03:00] <j2daosh> encrypted ssh is the best part in my opinion
[03:00] <snoops> plus its protocol is super efficient
[03:00] <ProN00b> well, vnc has always worked for me, so i'll stay with that
[03:00] <j2daosh> now while im at work i dont have to worrk about hitting a website that may or may not have a pron banner and getting fired
[03:00] <thoreauputic> nx also cuts down "round trips"
[03:00] <jpjacobs> bonzai: top
[03:01] <jpjacobs> or even better htop (prolly needs apting)
[03:01] <j2daosh> jpjacobs: that only should the top 20 processes... if the daemon he wants it sleeping it wont show up
[03:01] <j2daosh> it=is
[03:02] <ProN00b> hmm, is there any encrypted proxy protocol yet ?
[03:02] <j2daosh> yeah... ssh
[03:02] <ProN00b> -_-
[03:02] <bonzai10> how about something like top but for x serwer or for gnome ?
[03:02] <j2daosh> lol
[03:02] <ProN00b> ssh is a general usage tunnel
[03:02] <j2daosh> encrypted being the keyword
[03:03] <j2daosh> set the proxy parameters and then you have encrypted proxy tunnel :P
[03:03] <j2daosh> if you are talking about for webpages and such... not yet that i am aware of
[03:04] <j2daosh> course you could log into someone elses computer who is running ssh server and then surf the web from them...
[03:04] <j2daosh> then its encrypted and anonymous :P
[03:05] <Lightenix> any idea why gcc wont work with this prog...? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27808/
[03:05] <effraie> i'm looking for ppc-users
[03:05] <Lightenix> well it works with g++, and i did that apt-get build-essential
[03:05] <greg_> Hi guys. I'm wondering where one might put a startup script.
[03:05] <billwang> i have a problem with ubuntu, i am in China, who can help me?
[03:06] <mwe> Lightenix: pastebin errors
[03:06] <greg_> so permissions can be loaded at startup.
[03:06] <doomer> !grub
[03:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <billwang> have any Chinese?
[03:07] <bonzai10> it asks me to specify signal when i want to kill demon, what should i type ?
[03:07] <billwang> have any chinese?
[03:07] <bonzai10> i have japaneese :>
[03:07] <greg_> effraie, i used to run linux on a ppc. what's up?
[03:07] <erUSUL> Lightenix: <irony>it works with thew c++ compiler but not with the c compiler... hummm weird as it is a c++ program ;) </irony>
[03:07] <billwang> which blogging tools is best?
[03:08] <effraie> greg_: are you on edgy
[03:08] <billwang> yes
[03:08] <effraie> i need to comfirme a security bug
[03:08] <greg_> yes but on a pc
[03:08] <Lightenix> erUSUL: isnt gcc suppose to compile also cpp programs?
[03:08] <effraie> arf..
[03:08] <greg_> arf?
[03:08] <effraie> thank you greg_, but it would not be usefull
[03:08] <billwang> who can help me?
[03:09] <billwang> i am fish
[03:09] <Beakster> hi, if i install the Edgy beta, can i upgrade it to the full release when it comes out? or do i have to reinstall?
[03:09] <effraie> billwang: i use dotclear2
[03:09] <billwang> where can find it, thanks a lot
[03:09] <greg_> effraie, i used to run yellowdog linux on ppcs
[03:10] <effraie> hum, i used to run ubuntu ;)
[03:10] <exoticorn> effraie: i have edgy running on an ibook g4
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Beakster, you can upgrade it easily to the final version
[03:10] <effraie> exoticorn: can you make 'uname -r' for me?
[03:10] <fnf> Beakster: Edgy's current release is RC, upgrading to an official release is just a matter of installing a few more packages (probably none). So, no reinstallation is needed.
[03:10] <jpjacobs> bonzai10, just the default
[03:11] <jpjacobs> and if the daemon really doesn't respond -9 (see man kill)
[03:11] <erUSUL> Lightenix: yes, with the g++ front end (gcc stands for gnu compiler *collection*) you have gcc for c gfortran for fortran ands g++ for c++
[03:11] <effraie> billwang: http://preview.dotclear.net/
[03:11] <billwang> thanks
[03:11] <effraie> the website is in french, but the app is translated, billwang
[03:11] <mahdi> how can i save the changed mac address after restart???
[03:12] <exoticorn> effraie: 2.6.17-10-powerpc
[03:12] <billwang> ok, i see
[03:12] <effraie> exoticorn: from when is edgy on your ibook?
[03:12] <charlie5> hi ... if i have a modem/router and a machine connected ... the modem/router has a static ip address, and the machine has a static dhcp local net address ... what 'address' would the outside world need to get at a resource on the machine ?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> mahdi, edit /etc/ifstab to save mac addresses on your system
[03:12] <Lightenix> erUSUL: ohh thats ic, soo i only call g++ and thats actually gcc for cpp?
[03:12] <mahdi> how can i save the changed mac address after restart???
[03:12] <Lightenix> or smthing
[03:13] <exoticorn> i initially installed the beta and then upgraded whenever there were upgrades
[03:13] <effraie> exoticorn: thanks
[03:13] <thoreauputic> mahdi,  sorry, /etc/iftab
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> mac address changed ? i thought mac address is in the network card ...
[03:13] <fnf> charlie5: the world only knows about your external address, you need to port forward to a specific machine on your LAN.
[03:13] <iGadget> hi
[03:13] <mahdi> yes
[03:14] <effraie> i'm looking for a ppc user using edgy since alpha release, now..
[03:14] <ragnar_123> hey iGadget
[03:14] <iGadget> has anyone ever managed to write files > 4GB to a DVD+/-R in linux?
[03:14] <iGadget> hi ragnar_123 :)
[03:14] <thoreauputic> mahdi, /etc/iftab is a file that lists mac addresses
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> iGadget, yes i have
[03:14] <fnf> iGadget: yes ?
[03:14] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: how did you do that?
[03:14] <charlie5> fnf: thank you ... so i should set up port forwarding for the machine on the ports involved with the server which provides the resource ?
[03:14] <mahdi> ok i will try
[03:15] <iGadget> I constantly get an error when I try that - file size too large
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> iGadget, i use k3b .//
[03:15] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: me too
[03:15] <thoreauputic> mahdi, it's a very simple file - gksudo gedit /etc/iftab  to edit it
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> iGadget, i been burning movies for a longggg time :P dvd rips .. about 4.5 gig
[03:15] <fnf> charlie5: exactly, in that case every request from the outer to a particular port to your network will be routed to that machine.
[03:16] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: yes, but that's multiple files, all less than 4GB, right?
[03:16] <mahdi> ok thank you
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> all less than 4 gig ? you mean burning a file thats more than 4 gig ?
[03:16] <fnf> iGadget: I'm running a custom kernel so I'm not really sure about Ubuntu, you need to enable a kernel setting while compiling.
[03:16] <Gasten> I'm thinking of switching to KDE just to try it out: how big would you say the chance is to screw up the data you allready got?
[03:16] <charlie5> fnf: beautiful, its all starting to make sense. at last ... (just swithced to bband from 33k dialup) ... big difference ;)
[03:17] <charlie5> fnf: cheers
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Gasten,  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop - and it won't break anything
[03:17] <Blissex> Gasten: what kind of data? Sounds strange that changing desktop environment would corrupt data.
[03:17] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: yes... I have some HDTV movies here, with file sizes of 4,5GB and more
[03:17] <thoreauputic> it won't
[03:17] <Gasten> Blissex: Why would that be strange?
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> iGadget, i just burned slackware iso which is more than 4 gig
[03:18] <Gasten> Well, if you say it's ok, I'll give it a spin.
[03:18] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: an ISO is something different, that will work
[03:18] <fnf> Gasten: probably none, as it should just put a few config files to your home directory, not a big deal.
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Gasten, because a different desktop is not in any way associated with your existing one
[03:18] <iGadget> fnf: I don't see myself compiling custom kernels...
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Gasten, the config and data are separate
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> iGadget, you are burning a file that is more than 4 gig ? no i dont remember burning such a big file before .. sorry about that
[03:19] <Gasten> Hm.. Do I have to do anything more than running sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and reboot to make it work?
[03:19] <Gasten> And to get gnome bake I do the same with gnome-desktop?
[03:19] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: yes... HDTV files are kind of large :)
[03:20] <daniele_982> hello icome from ubnutu-it this is a large good community.Beautiful :D
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> iGadget, i do not have hdtv ... :P
[03:20] <dv5000> is it possible to turn of the TFT of my notebook whit ubuntu? (whitout using gnome-power-manager)
[03:21] <iGadget> wickedpuppy: me neither... but it's easy to download HDTV media :)
[03:22] <iGadget> too bad there's no easy way to do this in linux... It 'just works(tm)' in windows :(
[03:22] <angelo> how do i select the language
[03:22] <j`ey> im getting an error, can't find Xt Xmu or Xaw
[03:22] <j`ey> how cna I get these>
[03:22] <angelo> of the gnome spell checker
[03:22] <angelo> integrated in edgy
[03:22] <angelo> ?
[03:22] <fnf> iGadget: I'll recheck the issue and come back right away.
[03:23] <iGadget> fnf: great, thanks :)
[03:23] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again.
[03:24] <mahdi> thank you <thoreauputic> so how can i set the wireless card as wep shared key after reboot??
[03:24] <Clinton__> Lattyware: are you on a DCHP network?
[03:25] <Lattyware> No, Static.
[03:25] <Clinton__> Lattyware: ah, can't help you there then, sorry.
[03:25] <Lattyware> ok.
[03:26] <mahdi> thank you <thoreauputic> so how can i set the wireless card as wep shared key after reboot??
[03:26] <mahdi> how can i set the wireless card as wep shared key after reboot??
[03:26] <blinx> hi
[03:26] <jdsnape> hi
[03:27] <blinx> I have a problem with mysql and edgy
[03:27] <m`kay> hi guys. my ubuntupc is without inet tempoary... what is the link for the package localeconf?
[03:27] <blinx> is this the right channel?
[03:27] <Lattyware> blinx: Probably.
[03:27] <m`kay> blinx, i hope so
[03:28] <Rookie_> m`kay - all conf files are in /etc
[03:28] <blinx> ok, I tell something about my problem: mysql> create user trac identified by password "**";
[03:28] <leftjustified> does anyone know if the mysql stopwords list in the ubuntu version differs from the default stopwords list at all ? (in regards to fulltext search)
[03:28] <blinx> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'user trac identified by password "xxx"' at line 1
[03:28] <m`kay> Rookie, i need the package, from the mirror
[03:28] <Rookie_> synaptic
[03:28] <Rookie_> !localeconf
[03:28] <ubotu> localeconf: debconf interface to locale configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.1 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 196 kB
[03:28] <m`kay> Rokkie_ im without inet tempoary
[03:29] <Lattyware> blinx: Are you sure this is a problem with SQL, and not your code?
[03:29] <blinx> A friend of me uses the same version of edgy but doesn't have some problems
[03:29] <Lattyware> hmmm
[03:29] <blinx> Lattyware: in mysq.de nobody could help me
[03:29] <Rookie_> there you go
[03:29] <blinx> +l
[03:29] <Lattyware> I know mySQL, but only enough to make websites, sorry. I'm not amazing with it.
[03:29] <Lattyware> ?
[03:29] <yeti> is there a repository that has the flah player 9 beta?
[03:29] <Lattyware> whoops, wrong channel (the ?)
[03:30] <fnf> iGadget: Unfortunately I haven't got a handy kernel source here to test, I need a few more minutes if you prefer.
[03:30] <Rookie_> !flash
[03:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again.
[03:30] <fabianggx> holas
[03:30] <iGadget> fnf: sure, I'm not going anywhere :)
[03:30] <Lightenix> anyone can tell me, why i cant find x-window-system-dev package in dapper, or in what repository is that package?
[03:30] <iGadget> fnf: I appreciate it, thanks!
[03:30] <blinx> So I removed mysql
[03:30] <blinx> what for a version should I install?
[03:31] <blinx> I need a package name
[03:31] <fni> hey guys, finally got ubuntu installed but one thing i can't figure out is why i cannot edit/create files in /var/www ?
[03:31] <Rookie_> !mysql
[03:31] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[03:31] <Lightenix> !x-window-system-dev
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-window-system-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <Rookie_> fni - sudo ?
[03:31] <Lightenix> fni: try sudo gedit filename
[03:31] <snoops> blinx tried single quotes instead of double quotes?
[03:31] <nemoo> fni chesk your permission at /var/www and User Group at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:32] <blinx> snoops: the same
[03:32] <j`ey> anyone know how to install Xt, Xmu and Xaw ?
[03:32] <snoops> how about quotes around the username?
[03:32] <mahdi> please any body exper in wifi
[03:33] <fni> i just checked the permissions of /var/www and it says "you are not the owner, you cannot change permissions"
[03:33] <snoops> blinx "An error occurs if the account already exists"
[03:33] <Lattyware> fni: OK, change the permissions as root.
[03:33] <mahdi> how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:33] <snoops> have you checked if the user exists in the mysql.user table?
[03:33] <blinx> snoops: no account exists (excluding root)
[03:33] <Lattyware> do sudo nautilus and then use that to change the permissions.
[03:34] <Lattyware> or sudo chmod if you know enough
[03:34] <mahdi> how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:34] <fni> Lattyware, so i have to cli sudo everytime i want to create a file outside my home dir?
[03:34] <snoops> what version of mysql blinx?
[03:34] <snoops> The CREATE USER statement was added in MySQL 5.0.2.
[03:35] <Lattyware> no, you just need to change the permissions of folders so tha tyou can create files there. If the place outside of your home dir is owned by someone other than you, then you will need to change the permissions.
[03:35] <Lattyware> If /var/www was created as root, root owns it, so only root can change it
[03:35] <tsoler> hi guys?
[03:35] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again.
[03:36] <mahdi> how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:36] <nikos_sophos> HI
[03:36] <fni> Lattyware, gotcha. is there anyway to just give myself root powers?
[03:36] <Lattyware> fni: When you do sudo <command> you do it as root
[03:36] <tsoler> nikos :
[03:36] <MaxRandor> I have successfuly burnt an iso image of ubuntu onto a cd. I have not verified the download and I am not sure wheter the cd burner verified the CD either.
[03:36] <MaxRandor> When I boot with the order of boot being CD/DVD then Hard disk then I end up with some kind of command prompt and typing in the 'avalilabe options' gets me nowhere. I do not know what to do to get beyond this.
[03:36] <mahdi> how can i keep the card work as wep shared key after reboot
[03:36] <MaxRandor> the only command I typed that did not say command not recognised was
[03:36] <MaxRandor> D:/ which changed the command prompt type thing to have D in it where before it had A.
[03:36] <tsoler> nikos are u from greece?
[03:36] <snoops> sudo -i is also handy fni
[03:37] <GhoSt_DoG> Hello
[03:37] <MaxRandor> hello
[03:38] <nikos_sophos> I'm fench
[03:38] <snoops> which ubuntu disk MaxRandor? desktop edition, server and what version - 6.06(dapper)?
[03:38] <MaxRandor> desktop edition
[03:38] <MaxRandor> dapper
[03:39] <snoops> I'd try burning another copy.. it should be loading up in a live cd for you, which it doesn't sound like it's getting to
[03:39] <MaxRandor> okay
[03:39] <fni> so basically there is no easy way to change permissions in the GUI?
[03:39] <snoops> the bios should say "checking cd rom....press blah to stop" then boot the cd
[03:39] <MaxRandor> okay
[03:39] <Lattyware> fni: the easiest way is to get the root-nautilus-here script...
[03:39] <Lattyware> give me a second
[03:40] <Gasten> If I do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, Am I using KDE, or Gnome with KDE-support? If I want to run KDE-only, do I have to do something else than sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[03:40] <snoops> are you sure it's not checking floppy or something like that MaxRandor?
[03:40] <MaxRandor> I thought it should work like that
[03:40] <mahdi> %C4how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:40] <RustyJames> hi i recently  installed the ubuntu edgy beta 2 version. Does it make sense to install again the Release Candidate or is it the same when the updates are installed?
[03:40] <MaxRandor> it shouldn't be - there is no floppy to check
[03:40] <mahdi> %C9
[03:40] <MaxRandor> and it says CD/DD
[03:41] <Lattyware> fni: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/Execute/Misc/root-nautilus-here
[03:41] <LjL> RustyJames: same. anyway, join #ubuntu+1 for Edgy support
[03:41] <fnf> iGadget: it seems Linux kernel > 2.4 support Large File System (LFS) out of the box, what CD burner are you using ?.
[03:41] <Nilazlo> Hohohohohohohoho
[03:41] <snoops> RustyJames err well, edgy is set for release (final) in umm like 5 days?
[03:41] <Lattyware> open up gedit, paste that in, then save the file into ~/Nautilus/scripts
[03:42] <Lattyware> Then browse to where you want to change the permissions.
[03:42] <RustyJames> LjL: thanks i didnt know there is an edgy channel
[03:42] <SUB_ZERO> tu ta ta ai
[03:42] <Lattyware> right click, scripts, root-nautilis-here.
[03:42] <Nilazlo> Beleza
[03:42] <gop_> hi one just one question
[03:42] <iGadget> fnf: NEC burner, but the error occurs when adding files to a project, so I don't think it's hardware related
[03:42] <Nilazlo> Eu to SUBZERO
[03:42] <fni> Lattyware. excellent thank you
[03:42] <gop_> I have ubuntu installed on hdd# but
[03:42] <gop_> I get grub error 17
[03:42] <gop_> why won't grub see that file sytem
[03:42] <RustyJames> snoops: i know thats why im asking and cause im still having some problems there i wanted to know if it makes sense to test the rc version
[03:42] <Lattyware> fni: Not at all, I have asked similar questions myself :P
[03:43] <pettern> i just lost my sound. i have checked that nothing is muted and i have tried to restart the soundsystem with kcontrol. Is there any script to reconfigure sound devices and the soundsystem?
[03:43] <Nilazlo> E tu ta
[03:43] <SUB_ZERO> grande nikolas
[03:43] <SUB_ZERO> jorge
[03:43] <mahdi> how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:43] <fnf> iGadget: can you resort to using another one ? cdrecord is a good candidate, just to test.
[03:43] <fnf> iGadget: btw, can you try to open a huge file ?.
[03:43] <snoops> MaxRandor have you ever booted off a live cd before? Every now and then you come across a machine which has an outdated bios which just doesn't boot cds properly
[03:43] <Nilazlo> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Jorge Jorge Jorge
[03:43] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again.
[03:43] <MaxRandor> I have never done anything to my os or bios before
[03:44] <SUB_ZERO> jorge jorge jorge
[03:44] <LjL> Nilazlo, SUB_ZERO: english here please - and #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support conversation in english.
[03:44] <MaxRandor> but it is not an old computer
[03:44] <Nilazlo> jorge jorge jorge ha ha ha
[03:44] <iGadget> fnf: opening files works ok, but adding them to a new project in k3b results in the error
[03:44] <MaxRandor> only last summer
[03:44] <SUB_ZERO> fuck
[03:44] <LjL> !ops
[03:44] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:44] <Dr_willis> mahdi,  you mean - auto-run that command on each boot up?
[03:44] <mahdi> how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:44] <Nilazlo> ok
[03:44] <SUB_ZERO> hi
[03:44] <gop_> k
[03:44] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[03:44] <LjL> gnomefreak: see what i said to Nilazlo and SUB_ZERO, and see the reply
[03:44] <gop_> any here know about grub error 17
[03:44] <snoops> oh, then absolutely should be able to no problems.. yeah try burning another cd, just this time try burning slower
[03:44] <Nilazlo> .hi SUB
[03:44] <MaxRandor> k
[03:44] <SUB_ZERO> dont worry
[03:45] <fnf> iGadget: so is it possible that your CD burner doesn't support files that big ?.
[03:45] <snoops> doing a checksum on the image is also a cool thing ti do
[03:45] <fnf> iGadget: #apt-get install cdrecord
[03:45] <iGadget> fnf: no, because I've burned files this big on windows using nero
[03:45] <eltech> wow that twinview tutorial was too easy
[03:45] <iGadget> fnf: with the same hardware
[03:45] <MaxRandor> it looked complicated - the extension for firefox refused to run on 2.0
[03:45] <KingLear> Hello all,
[03:46] <Gasten> If I do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, Am I using KDE, or Gnome with KDE-support? If I want to run KDE-only, do I have to do something else than sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[03:46] <iGadget> fnf: and apparently I'm already using cdrecord, because it's already installed :)
[03:46] <fnf> iGadget: I see, I'm referring to your software in Linux, can you try to burn one with cdrecord ?. It's easy to use.
[03:46] <LjL> Gasten: yes, you have to remove gnome
[03:46] <KingLear> I have followed the instructions given to me after running scanmodem onmy system,
[03:46] <pettern> Is there any script to reconfigure sound devices and the soundsystem?
[03:46] <fnf> iGadget: and it errors out ?.
[03:46] <KingLear> and even after the drivers have been installed for smartlink,
[03:46] <Gasten> LjL: sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop?
[03:46] <KingLear> The Modem is not working,
[03:47] <KingLear> nor its detectable viaminicom
[03:47] <iGadget> fnf: I'll try... never used any commandline app to do this kind of stuff before
[03:47] <iGadget> hold on
[03:47] <KingLear> why is that so?
[03:47] <LjL> Gasten: unfortunately, not. that would only remove a metapackage (same for removing ubuntu-desktop). you can try removing "libgnome2-0", because that will take most Gnome dependant packages away
[03:47] <fnf> iGadget: yup, good luck, I believe it should take no more than 5 minutes to actually burn your first DVD.
[03:47] <JuanRasta> hola
[03:47] <JuanRasta> hola a todos
[03:47] <LjL> Gasten: to be certain that you have a "pure" KDE (i.e. Kubuntu) installation, you should either reinstall, or check against the package list of a fresh Kubuntu install
[03:47] <mahdi> how can i save this after reboot "sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2"
[03:47] <Gasten> LjL: Ok.
[03:47] <LjL> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:47] <JuanRasta> venezuela
[03:48] <JuanRasta> venezuela dice
[03:48] <KingLear> any one please?
[03:48] <aFx> which one(kde or gnome) is favorite?
[03:48] <ragnar_123> hi
[03:48] <mahdi> i meane chang the wireless card to work with wep shared key after every boot
[03:48] <LjL> aFx: none. but if you want to discuss people's preference, please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:48] <Gasten> LjL: I don't want a "pure", I just want to run KDE as the main window manager.
[03:49] <ragnar_123> aFx: gnome
[03:49] <gop_> hey
[03:49] <aFx> LjL; ok
[03:49] <gop_> I got one question
[03:49] <ragnar_123> hey gop:!
[03:49] <LjL> Gasten: to have KDE as the main window manager, you only need to 1) run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" to use KDM as your login manager, rather than GDM  2) at your login screen, click on the icon on the left, choose "Session", and select "KDE"
[03:49] <gop_> about grub error 17
[03:49] <gop_> when I boot I get grub error 17
[03:50] <ragnar_123> oh, do you dualboot+
[03:50] <gop_> yes
[03:50] <gop_> I dual boot with windows
[03:50] <Lightenix> how can i see, who is connected to computer(or logged) from remote or local connection?
[03:50] <Gasten> LjL: Ah. I can choose Gnome there, too?
[03:50] <LjL> Lightenix: who
[03:50] <LjL> Gasten: unless you remove it, yes
[03:50] <gop_> this is my current setup 120 gig physical windows hda 80 storage physical hdb   and hdd 60 gig linux
[03:50] <KingLear> I got a question about finalising installation of my modem
[03:51] <Lightenix> LjL: thanks:)
[03:51] <merlin> wow.. Beryl is being retarded!
[03:51] <Gasten> LjL: Sweet.
[03:51] <gop_> ragnar_123 what could be the problem
[03:51] <LjL> Gasten: (and for that matter, you can choose KDE from your current GDM login manager... but if you intend to use mainly KDE, i suggest you switch to KDM using the command i gave you)
[03:51] <l3on> hi
[03:51] <fnf> iGadget: This is the minimum possible command to burn an ISO: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw <path-to-ISO>
[03:51] <ragnar_123> gop: no swap?
[03:51] <gop_> oh
[03:51] <snoops> Lightenix you should have said you didn't know who they are, that's why you wanted the command in the first place ;)
[03:51] <gop_> thier ext2 hdd1 and swap hdd2
[03:51] <gop_> I suppose
[03:52] <merlin> was working good lastnight and then poof... when i add beryl-manager to startup. the entire comp halts.
[03:52] <LjL> !xgl > merlin
[03:52] <ragnar_123> gop_:hmm..
[03:52] <gop_> still I get grub error 17
[03:52] <aFx> because my cpu is not good,  i am using only console mode  kk
[03:52] <l3on> excuse me, why does not my trash icon on panel change setting icon-theme ?
[03:52] <mahdi> how can i save my wireless card work with wep shared key after every reboot
[03:52] <fnf> iGadget: cdrw should be replaced for dvdrw for a DVD.
[03:52] <mahdi> how can i save my wireless card work with wep shared key after every reboot???
[03:52] <LjL> !repeat
[03:52] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:53] <gop_> why can't it see the partion
[03:53] <Lightenix> !patience
[03:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:53] <LjL> !wifi > mahdi
[03:53] <Gasten> !patience >> Gasten
[03:53] <mahdi> yes
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <Lightenix> !repeat > Lightenix
[03:53] <Xal> Is there a bug database for edgy eft/
[03:53] <Lightenix> !repeat >> Lightenix
[03:53] <mahdi> yes wifi!!
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <gop_> hmm
[03:54] <ragnar_123> gop_: see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:54] <ragnar_123> !dualboot
[03:54] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:54] <l3on> nobody know ?
[03:54] <gop_> thanks
[03:55] <fni> guys, where would my nautilus dir be? i've checked in / and /root but can't find anything
[03:55] <Lightenix> ohhh nice, thanks ljl:)
[03:55] <l3on> -.-
[03:55] <gop_> thanks
[03:55] <fnf> fni: try find -name "nautilus" /
[03:55] <ragnar_123> np :)
[03:55] <Rookie_> try which or locate
[03:56] <l3on> -_-
[03:56] <reverie> hey guys
[03:56] <deadhobo1> Hya... I'm completley new to ubuntu and I just installed a nvidia driver through automatix2. I rebooted and it took a dump on me, the only thing that comes up after boot is a corrupted grey screen.
[03:56] <LjL> !automatix
[03:56] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[03:56] <ragnar_123> hey reverie
[03:56] <reverie> The old question.. how to get fglrx going? :)
[03:56] <deadhobo1> LjL, whoops, ok, thanks
[03:56] <kingpanga> help pls
[03:56] <kingpanga> how 2 close port
[03:56] <Rookie_> !ati
[03:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <reverie> lol
[03:57] <reverie> I wish I could type !ati in my console :P
[03:57] <reverie> I have it installed, but I have no dri module.
[03:57] <deadhobo1> looks like #automatix is dead :(
[03:57] <l3on> !ati
[03:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <eltech> so whats a way to install yum?
[03:57] <gop_> but rangnar that don't say shit about
[03:57] <eltech> automatix can install yum yes?
[03:57] <deadhobo1> I guess my real question is how to boot into a safe-mode of sorts
[03:57] <gop_> about intalling on a different physical drive
[03:57] <LjL> deadhobo1: too bad. i'm sorry you were tricked into using automatix in the first place.
[03:58] <LjL> !automatix > eltech
[03:58] <eltech> errm, but I dont wanna install that
[03:58] <ragnar_123> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:58] <deadhobo1> LjL, that bad?
[03:58] <gop_> thanks
[03:58] <eltech> LjL, right i dont wanna go that route
[03:58] <GhoSt_DoG> I am not to obtain to move a filing-cabinet I stop: /var/www/test, some suggestion? it says me that the filing-cabinet does not exist: (
[03:58] <eltech> !yum
[03:58] <deadhobo1> LjL, lifehacker reccomended it for getting MP3/DVD support :/
[03:58] <eltech> figured
[03:58] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 1068 kB
[03:59] <kingpanga> pleaaase how to close port
[03:59] <LjL> deadhobo1: yes. we keep getting complains about automatix breaking systems, and apparently the only thing that the developers do about it is to refrain from giving help to anybody who comes from the #ubuntu channel.
[03:59] <LjL> deadhobo1: then please tell him to not recommend it anymore, at least not on this channel.
[03:59] <GhoSt_DoG> Ghetto_Smurf, yooo
[03:59] <GhoSt_DoG> :)
[03:59] <fnf> deadhobo1: no necessarily, but automatix is known to blindly install packages to the machine, even there is an error.
[03:59] <deadhobo1> LjL, its a popular blog :p www.lifehacker.com
[04:00] <easytiger> man, there is so much crap in my keyboard...
[04:00] <Studiosus> Hi, all! Is there a way to boot Ubuntu from Debian-based LILO?
[04:00] <Ghetto_Smurf> GhoSt_DoG o/
[04:00] <GhoSt_DoG> que fazes por aqui ?
[04:00] <gop_> !eror 17
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eror 17 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <LjL> deadhobo1: anyway, tell me precisely what error you're having. i doubt i can find a fix easily, but i will try.
[04:00] <gop_> !error 17
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error 17 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <LjL> !pt > GhoSt_DoG
[04:00] <fnf> !lilo
[04:00] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:00] <LjL> !fishing > gop_
[04:01] <deadhobo1> LjL, Well, there is no error unfortionatley. Otherwise I would just google it. All that comes up is a grey screen which looks almost like a background, but the login window never appears
[04:01] <MaxRandor> ooh cd erasing complete - time to reburn
[04:01] <Ghetto_Smurf> GhoSt_DoG fui ao xubuntu para ver se j h alguma release e o irc fez auto join para o ubuntu
[04:01] <Ghetto_Smurf> x
[04:01] <Ghetto_Smurf> D
[04:01] <fnf> deadhobo1: try booting into single mode, can you ?
[04:01] <LjL> deadhobo1: ah - i was under the impression that the system didn't even begin starting. so, it starts, and boots, but when it tries to load X (i.e. the graphical interface with the login script), it fails?
[04:01] <LjL> !pt > Ghetto_Smurf
[04:02] <deadhobo1> LjL, yes, I can hear the login sound and everything, but I can't see anything
[04:02] <deadhobo1> fnf, how do I do that?
[04:02] <LjL> deadhobo1: then try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (do it from a console -- you can switch to one by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1).
[04:02] <fnf> deadhobo1: if you can here the login sound meaning your system is not really screwed up I supposed, perhaps an X issue.
[04:03] <LjL> deadhobo1: after that, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to restart X, and see if it comes back to life.
[04:03] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again.
[04:03] <fnf> deadhobo1: while configuring xserver, try to use the standard driver and uncheck 'dri' and 'glx' modules.
[04:04] <l3on> !trash
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <hobo> anyone using WPA with success?
[04:04] <deadhobo1> LjL, I'll try that, thanks... brb
[04:04] <deadhobo1> fnf, I don't know how to get to the xserver window... I'm going to try what LjL said real quick, thanks tho
[04:04] <fnf> deadhobo1: hold on
[04:05] <fnf> deadhobo1: to boot into single mode, on the GRUB menu, edit the line begins with /initrd (by pressing 'e') then append 'single'
[04:06] <fnf> deadhobo1: however, by default Ubuntu includes a 'recovery mode', you can just choose it.
[04:07] <tsoler> hi to all
[04:08] <tsoler> verry new to ubuntu
[04:08] <fnf> tsoler: hi.
[04:08] <Rookie_> We all are ;)
[04:08] <tsoler> hi fnf
[04:08] <eltech> anyone know where to find some xchat themes?
[04:08] <Rookie_> 920 users, say hi to tsoler
[04:08] <kent> can any one recomend a program to move random mp3s to my mp3-player? preferably a plugin to rhythmbox/banshee.   I have a big archive with music and listen to it during work,  but dont feel like manually choosing each day when a random selection will work fine..
[04:09] <deadhobo1> LjL, I couldn't really tell what I was doing because I couldn't see anything, I'm going to try fnf's thing now
[04:09] <tsoler> anyone willing to give a hand?
[04:09] <deadhobo1> fnf, so just hit ESC on boot?
[04:09] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, whats the problem?
[04:09] <fnf> deadhobo1: when booting into single user mode......
[04:09] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again. (Static IP)
[04:10] <deadhobo1> fnf: ok, thanks
[04:10] <tsoler> after this boot i get a very delayed start up
[04:10] <LjL> deadhobo1: yes, if your Grub menu doesn't show up by default. start hitting it like crazy as soon as the BIOS is almost going to pass control to the bootloader, and a menu will pop up
[04:10] <fnf> deadhobo1: ...you'll be welcomed with a text login screen, after logging in type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:10] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, could you expand that?
[04:11] <tsoler> i think is trying to see my ntfs drive and it cant?
[04:11] <eltech> would it be breaking anything to install k3b which requires kdebase and such?
[04:11] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what makes you think that, and how does you fstab look?
[04:11] <tsoler> whts an fstab?
[04:11] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, thats the file that handles mounting of driver
[04:11] <Lattyware> tsoler: /etc/fstab
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> gedit /etc/fstab opens it up
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> tsoler, file system table ... unless i am wrong
[04:12] <manudeb> hey
[04:12] <tsoler> lhere is the sort story
[04:12] <tsoler> ive tried to make ubuntu see  my ntfs
[04:12] <GhoSt_DoG> who like Gambas ?
[04:12] <tsoler> so ive downloaded some drivers(?)
[04:12] <tuxi> hi
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what drivers?
[04:13] <mahdi> I can't read or write to my cd writer !!??
[04:13] <tsoler> after that system is getting so much time to start
[04:13] <tsoler> i found them over the synaptic list
[04:13] <tuxi> i have a problem to formated floppys lowlevel
[04:13] <nolimitsoya> also, tsoler, ntfs drives should be mounted read only by default since dapper. you shouldnt need extra drivers unless you want to write to ntfs :)
[04:14] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, just uninstall whatever you installed :)
[04:14] <l3on> tsoler: should you try ntfs-3g
[04:14] <hobo> how do i start 2 programs that show to be installed? wpagui and wpasupplicant
[04:14] <nolimitsoya> then ill help  you set things up
[04:14] <nolimitsoya> ok?
[04:14] <tsoler> ok only read for start would be ok
[04:14] <mahdi> I can't read or write to my cd writer , whay !!??
[04:14] <tsoler> but how???
[04:14] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what ever you installed through synaptic, just remove it
[04:14] <tuxi> Could not determine current format type: No such device
[04:15] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again. (Static IP)
[04:15] <fnf> mahdi: how do you know that ? you can't read an inserted CD ?
[04:15] <rodrigo> hello
[04:15] <tsoler> is there a restore point like windows or not??
[04:15] <l3on> Lattyware: try to install alsa lib
[04:15] <nolimitsoya> Lattyware, try to set irq for you soundcard by hand
[04:15] <dfgas> ok i got my sound to work but not in a way that i want. if there is a better way to fix this please tell me. i am running ubuntu as the host and windows xp in the vm. i couldn't get the sound to work at all till i logged in as root and loaded vmware player that way. it doesn't matter between server and player both the same. no sound in reg user
[04:15] <sohaibma> i have a modem problem....can someone please help me out here?
[04:15] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no there isnt
[04:16] <mahdi> I cant copy any files from files
[04:16] <nolimitsoya> just uninstall the package you installed
[04:16] <ubufa2> can anyone help me installing giFT-ares in Apollon?
[04:16] <tsoler> ok ill try it manually
[04:16] <mahdi>  I cant copy any files from CD
[04:16] <rodrigo> I came here earlier ... and someone gave me a link to a site that could solve my problem (nvidia driver problem at reboot), but it didn't ... could someone give me the link to see if I missed something or tell me another solution?
[04:16] <gop_> 6666
[04:16] <deadhobo1> fnf/LjL: I was able to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as both of you reccomended, but now the screen is completley blank. I can still hear the login sounds and such though
[04:16] <sohaibma> i have a modem problem in 6.06 LTS....can someone please help me out here?
[04:16] <tsoler> but tell me onc3e again noli
[04:16] <nolimitsoya> !anyone > sohaibma
[04:16] <fnf> mahdi: try copying by 'cp', is there any error ?
[04:16] <tsoler> am i supposed to see ntfs -read only- by default??
[04:16] <eltech> would it be breaking anything to install k3b which requires kdebase and such?
[04:17] <l3on> deadhobo1: try to set vesa driver in xorg reconfiguration
[04:17] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, fire up synaptic, find the package you installed, right click it, and select remove completly
[04:17] <deadhobo1> l3on: not nvidia?
[04:17] <exs> Im using 6.06 (dapper) and I'd like to have XGL working. My nvidia card is working fine and I'd like someone to point me to an automated installer script for XGL (if there is one) Thanks  a lot.
[04:17] <exhale> i have the following partitions: /, /home and /swap. which out of thoose should be primary and logical?
[04:17] <tsoler> ill do that noli
[04:17] <Lattyware> l3on: Could you walk me through that please?
[04:17] <rodrigo> The problem is that at each reboot, it gives me an nvidia driver error ... the error is that the X module (8762) and the kernel module (7174) are different, when they should be both 8762, and then it doesn't manage to load the nvidia kernel module
[04:17] <l3on> if not positive result ---
[04:17] <rodrigo> could someone help me?
[04:17] <Kyral> exhale: logicals are only used if you run out of Primaries
[04:17] <mahdi> fnf : how can i do that??
[04:17] <Kyral> exhale: there is no difference otherwise
[04:18] <l3on> Lattyware: i don't understand
[04:18] <tsoler> but from the beging i cant read ntrfs. The question is : is that normal?
[04:18] <exhale> Kyral, so ALL should be primary?
[04:18] <Kyral> (You can only have 4 Primary partitions on any disk)
[04:18] <fnf> deadhobo1: if you just pressed Enter then the configuration file wouldn't change a bit. You should try changing the driver to a standard driver ('ati' or 'nv')
[04:18] <l3on> ah opko
[04:18] <sohaibma> Does anyone/anybody how to make a rockwell soft 56k pci speakershone modemmodem work in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[04:18] <l3on> okok
[04:18] <Kyral> exhale: I don't see why not
[04:18] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ntfs drives that where plugged in when you installed should have autmaticly been entered to you fstab, making them appear in /mount/<drive name>
[04:18] <l3on> pvt please
[04:18] <thoreauputic> exhale, it doesn't really matter - linux doesn't care :)
[04:18] <nolimitsoya> sry, /media, that is
[04:18] <exhale> ok thoreauputic
[04:18] <Rookie_> !pastebin
[04:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:18] <tsoler> i can see them but can not open them
[04:18] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, is the package removed?
[04:19] <sohaibma> Does anyone/anybody how to make a rockwell soft 56k pci speakershone modemmodem work in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[04:19] <rodrigo> could someone help me solve my problem?????
[04:19] <fnf> daedhobo1: and uncheck 'dri' and 'glx' modules, those won't work with the default 2D driver.
[04:19] <tsoler> so if i get back and fix the bad boot : i dont solve my problem
[04:19] <rodrigo>  The problem is that at each reboot, it gives me an nvidia driver error ... the error is that the X module (8762) and the kernel module (7174) are different, when they should be both 8762, and then it doesn't manage to load the nvidia kernel module
[04:19] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, have a look at http://linmodems.org
[04:19] <deadhobo1> fnf: Ooh, I did read each prompt and answer accordingly, but I didn't realize nv is diffrent from nvidia
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, i said id help you through things, justtake care of the boot problem first
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> the best way to do that would be to remove the package that coused the problem
[04:20] <deadhobo1> fnf: will do, thank you for the help. One sec
[04:20] <tsoler> thats what i wanted to hear :)
[04:20] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, no idea on the particular model - but that site has most soft modems and can tell you if linux supports them
[04:20] <tsoler> coming back
[04:20] <fnf> deadhobo1: 'nvidia' or 'fglrx' are for Nvidia 3D driver and ATI, respectively, that would be some hope.
[04:20] <LjL> deadhobo1: "nv" is an open source driver for NVidia card. "nvidia" is the official closed-source driver from NVidia. the latter is faster for 3D acceleration.
[04:20] <mahdi> fnf: and cant make iso to the cd
[04:20] <sohaibma> thanks thoreauputic, but ubuntu detects it as riptide HSF modem (under device manager), but i don't know how to set it up
[04:21] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, have you searched the wiki hardware section?
[04:21] <sohaibma> no
[04:21] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, wiki,ubuntu.com might have some info, but linmodems.org is a better bet perhaps
[04:21] <fnf> mahdi: I'm not really comfortable with GUI, can you 'cp -v /media/cdrom/<file> ./' and post the error (if any) here ?
[04:22] <mahdi> fnf: ok
[04:22] <gop_> k I in in select a disk and I picked /dev/hdd- 61.5gb maxtor do I press nex
[04:22] <gop_> t
[04:22] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, I assume you tried setting it up in the System - Admin - Networking  GUI ?
[04:22] <gop_> that where I wan to install it
[04:23] <deadhobo1> fnf/LjL... yay!! it works! I used nv and disabled the modules fnf reccomended to. Thank you for your help!
[04:23] <bintut> hello all..
[04:23] <sohaibma> i downloded cxntinstall.run file as my modem drivers, but it trys to connect to the internet to download the appropriate drivers.
[04:23] <fnf> daedhobo1: great!, I guess that's the driver that caused your problem.
[04:23] <bintut> i have .ogg files and i want to convert it to .mp3.. what do i need?  it's asking for mp3 encoder..
[04:23] <thoreauputic> !lame
[04:23] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[04:23] <deadhobo1> fnf: yepp. I'll also try to leave automatix alone now :p
[04:23] <fnf> deadhobo1: just be aware that you wouldn't get 3D support for that driver though.
[04:24] <gop_> !mp3
[04:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:24] <deadhobo1> fnf: Oh, so does that mean I can't run XGL?
[04:24] <l3on> n
[04:24] <LjL> deadhobo1: it means it'll run dead slow, i'm afraid
[04:24] <deadhobo1> :/
[04:24] <fnf> deadhobo1: probably, I'm not sure about xgl, but the nvidia driver is known to be unstable for me.
[04:24] <xukun> Hi all. Is't possible to import music cd using amarok?
[04:25] <LjL> deadhobo1: i don't know whether the fact that the "nvidia" driver doesn't work for you is due to an incompatibility with your hardware, or due to the fact that Automatix installs some weird version of the driver
[04:25] <deadhobo1> Well, now I can try doing it the proper/manual way since I know how to restore it if I screw it up :p
[04:25] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again. (Static IP)
[04:25] <sorush20> hi I want to be able to to have two root partitions so that at if one fails I can choose to load the cother one from grub
[04:25] <bintut> thoreauputic: i am using sox here to convert .ogg to .mp3 and it tells me that "sox: Failed writing music.mp3: Sorry, no MP3 encoding support"
[04:25] <Lattyware> sorush20: Create two partitions, install Ubuntu twice.
[04:25] <thoreauputic> bintut, sox doesn't do mp3 encoding - you need lame
[04:25] <LjL> deadhobo1: well, even if you do it the "proper" way, you might still have some weird driver installed. please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin, and i'll check whether this might be the case
[04:26] <n1gke> I get the same splash screen over and over.
[04:26] <thoreauputic> bintut, lame is in multiverse
[04:26] <bintut> thoreauputic: ok.. thanks..
[04:26] <sohaibma> thoreauputic, i downloaded the drivers from linuxant.com which is the official conexant site for linux drivers
[04:26] <deadhobo1> LjL: I can, but if I remember correctly when I exited Automatix it cleared the changes to the sources.list file. Standby and I'll bring it up though
[04:26] <Begasus> howdy peeps
[04:27] <Begasus> anyone here using svg icons in ubuntu?
[04:27] <tsoler> im back
[04:27] <Begasus> wb
[04:27] <m_tadeu> does anyone know about problems with the desktop cd and some ATI cards?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> bintut, you can also do it with gstreamer - which requires something like gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse (  don't remember exactly)
[04:27] <tsoler> where is my mentor haha
[04:27] <tsoler> nilo areu here?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, I take it you already know that's the right driver?
[04:27] <bintut> thoreauputic: i have gstreamer files installed
[04:28] <thoreauputic> bintut, well, yes, but probaly not the right ones :)
[04:28] <bintut> thoreauputic: and yes, it is installed
[04:28] <tsoler> noli?
[04:28] <sorush20> lakcaj: t
[04:28] <eltech> anyone have any guides to installing themes?
[04:28] <bintut> thoreauputic: ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse       0.10.3-2
[04:28] <gop_> I see no fix in sight
[04:29] <thoreauputic> bintut, try lame - it's pretty easy - just  lame file.ogg file.mp3  if I remember correctly
[04:29] <sohaibma> yeah
[04:29] <gop_> still I get error 17
[04:29] <sohaibma> you already know that's the right driver?
 thoreauputic: i have gstreamer files inbut it try's
[04:29] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, ?
[04:29] <Newbi8> Anyone who can help me install Enlightnement?
[04:29] <reverie> weird, when I tried to install the k7 kernel in edgy, it says its installed but it's nowhere to be found in /boot
[04:29] <thoreauputic> Newbi8,  sudo aptitude install enlightenment
[04:30] <thoreauputic> !enlightenment
[04:30] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> reverie, you shouldnt use k7 in edgy
[04:30] <sohaibma> thoreauputic, yes i know its the right driver but it tries to connect to the internet (it starts up firefox, and firefox is unable to connect)
[04:30] <reverie> nolimitsoya, how come?
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> reverie, generic is the only kernel for edgy
[04:30] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, heh- catch 22 eh ?
[04:30] <Newbi8> thoreauputic:But how?Cause I have the damn thing on a dvd??
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> the others are dumped
[04:30] <fnf> Newbi8: isn't 'apt-get install enlightenment' sufficient enough ?
[04:30] <reverie> oic
[04:30] <reverie> I installed fglrx but i can't get dri to load
[04:30] <thoreauputic> Newbi8, umm - you have E on a DVD?
[04:31] <tsoler> :) noli boot is back
[04:31] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good
[04:31] <Newbi8> thoreauputic:I
[04:31] <eltech> how can i find out what version gtk im using?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Newbi8, is this a special E17 DVD or something?
[04:31] <nolimitsoya> press alt+f2, type gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[04:31] <nolimitsoya> paste the contents to pastebin
[04:31] <Newbi8> thoreauputic:On a coverdisc from Linux format...
[04:31] <mahdi> fnf: `/media/cdrecorder/mpegav/avseq01.dat' -> `./avseq01.dat'
[04:31] <mahdi> cp: reading `/media/cdrecorder/mpegav/avseq01.dat': Input/output error
[04:31] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin > tsoler
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Newbi8, ah I see - and there are no debs?
[04:32] <Deaigo> anyone here use sqlite?
[04:32] <tsoler> ???
[04:32] <sohaibma>  reset by peer))
 thoreauputic, yes i know its the right driver but it tries to connect to the internet (it starts up firefox, and firefox is unable to connect)
[04:32] <sohaibma> * Ambimom has joined #ubuntu
[04:32] <bintut> thoreauputic: i tried converting .ogg file to .mp3 using lame but i got a garbage sound.. :(
[04:32] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what do you mean?
[04:32] <deadhobo> LjL: sorry it took so long, here is my sources.list
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Newbi8, if it is source code, forget it unless you are used to compiling stuff
[04:32] <tsoler> whats the paste bin
[04:32] <deadhobo> http://paste.lisp.org/display/28487
[04:32] <sohaibma> can you help me out here? thoreauputic
[04:32] <fnf> mahdi: That's weird, do you have any other installations/Windows to try copying ?
[04:32] <nolimitsoya> check you mesage from ubot ;)
[04:32] <Newbi8> thoreauputic: What's a deb?Pretty new to linux..
[04:32] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:32] <cosmodad> hi -- has anyone else encountered problems when using rdiff-backup? Everytime I try to backup my laptop machine, it freezes somewhere with no network link available anymore. :(
[04:33] <thoreauputic> bintut, ah - try  sox file.ogg file.wav , then convert the .wav file to .mp3
[04:33] <mahdi> fnf: yes
[04:33] <bintut> thoreauputic: ok
[04:33] <thoreauputic> bintut, sorry it's been a while since I did this
[04:33] <mahdi> fnf: the cpying doing in other OS
[04:33] <fdoving> anyone know how one can unhide files in the firefox filebrowser?
[04:33] <sohaibma> thoreauputic, http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/downloads-installer.php go to this address, i downloaded the file from here, then help me please
[04:33] <sohaibma> ok?
[04:33] <tsoler> confused , do u want me to paste what in there
[04:33] <fnf> mahdi: What is that other OS ? Another Ubuntu or ... ?
[04:34] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, umm, I'll have a look - no guarantee I can help
[04:34] <Ambimom> fdoving:  On the view tab in file browser you can check show hidden files
[04:34] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the contents of fstab
[04:34] <nolimitsoya> just do what i said, in order :)
[04:35] <tsoler> fstab resides where?
[04:35] <nolimitsoya> 16:31:58 <nolimitsoya> press alt+f2, type gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[04:35] <nolimitsoya> 16:32:05 <nolimitsoya> paste the contents to pastebin
[04:35] <fnf> !pastebin
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:35] <fdoving> Ambimom: i'm in the firefox -> file -> open file.. dialog.
[04:35] <JsonT> Hi all :D how do I install a .run-file?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, Ok it's a bash script - let me see if I understand what it's doing
[04:36] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, give me a few minutes....
[04:36] <tsoler> one momment please
[04:36] <Ambimom> fdoving:  what hidden file do you need in firefox?
[04:36] <LjL> deadhobo: make it look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27814/    then run "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx", then "sudo apt-get clean", then "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[04:36] <tsoler> im done
[04:36] <LjL> deadhobo: however, also read the channel topic.
[04:36] <elfranger> greetings and salutations...
[04:36] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good, give me you pastebin link so i can have a look :)
[04:37] <Ambimom> elfranger: greetings back to you
[04:37] <tsoler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27815/
[04:37] <elfranger> how do I add links to a folder into a user's home folder? I have a folder for ftp content, how do I link that up in each user's home folder?
[04:37] <deadhobo> thanks LjL, my bad
[04:37] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, how is you ntfs drive connected to your computer?
[04:38] <tsoler> not sure
[04:38] <fdoving> Ambimom: (this is edgy) in firefox -> edit -> preferences -> content -> file types -> manage -> find a file type and 'change action' -> choose 'open them with this application' - now in edgy some directories in / are hidden. (by default only /home and /media is shown)
[04:38] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, sata och pata?
[04:38] <tsoler> its not an ide port
[04:38] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, fire up gparted :)
[04:38] <Ambimom> fdoving:  can't help you; I'm familiar with dapper only
[04:38] <JsonT> could someone please tell me what to do with a .run-file?
[04:38] <tsoler> it has a small port
[04:38] <fnf> alfranger: I have no experience on an automated tool, if you prefer to do it manually, try 'link', 'ln' or 'cp'
[04:38] <fni> having some problems adjusting ubuntu's resolution. on the drop down list only 1 is listed (1024x768). i want 1280x1024
[04:39] <elfranger> fnf: thanks
[04:39] <tsoler> with a red cable
[04:39] <Studiosus> How to setup gcc-4.1 in Dapper?
[04:39] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, thats sata then
[04:39] <teledyn> fni: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <fnf> fni: have you taken a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:39] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, alt+f2, gksu gparted
[04:39] <tsoler> what is it:(
[04:39] <nolimitsoya> what devices do you see in the drop list?
[04:39] <fni> fnf, xorg.conf is empty
[04:39] <Ambimom> fdoving:  I use Opera mostly anyway; did you try firefox:config?
[04:39] <iGadget> fnf: tried cdrecord - it says it doesn't support DVD-R/DVD-RW
[04:40] <tsoler> one moment please
[04:40] <conreyt> hello all.  I'm trying to get banshee working with the banshee-daap package and it dosen't seem to be working,  I've installed banshee, and banshee-daap.  I've started the avahi-daemon and it still isn't seeing my mt-daapd server on the network.  Any ideas?
[04:40] <LjL> deadhobo, mind you, i was talking about the nvidia exploit warning
[04:40] <thoreauputic> sohaibma,  It gives me a permission denied error when I run it with sudo here ....
[04:40] <fnf> fni: you may regenerate it like one suggested above: dpkg-reconfigure.
[04:40] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, possibly because I don't have the device files since I don't use a modem anyway, don't know
[04:40] <deadhobo> LjL: Exploit?
[04:41] <l3on> !xorg
[04:41] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:41] <fnf> iGadget: the man pages say it supports and I did.
[04:41] <tsoler> noli it doesnt do anything
[04:41] <LjL> deadhobo: WARNING: nvidia driver has a security problem with a hotfix available from nvidia here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html <---- this can be exploited
[04:41] <LjL> deadhobo: and don't ask me what's the correct way to apply the fix -- haven't done it
[04:41] <fnf> iGadget: Cdrecord  is used to record data or audio Compact Discs on an Orange Book CD-Recorder or to write DVD media on a DVD-Recorder.
[04:41] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, do you have gparted installed?
[04:41] <sohaibma> thoreau, i'll try it again and then contact you...ok?
[04:41] <iGadget> fnf: this is what it says - cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support code.
[04:41] <Scorpmoon> why is user management in linux = rocket science?
[04:41] <tsoler> oops
[04:42] <tsoler> let me check this out
[04:42] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, type 'sudo apt-get install gparted' in a terminal if you dont...
[04:42] <fnf> iGadget: what is your version ?
[04:42] <deadhobo> LjL: lol, ok. thanks for the link... after I finish making my sources.list match I'll look into that
[04:42] <tsoler> wonderfull
[04:42] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, after midnight here - I'm about to sign off _ try searching the wiki and google "ubuntu <name of modem chip> " etc
[04:42] <n1gke> Why does Edgy Eft keep kicking back to the login in screen when trying to do the install from CD ?
[04:43] <tsoler> it does not give results
[04:43] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, or just get a real modem ;)
[04:43] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what doesnt?
[04:43] <iGadget> fnf: standard Ubuntu, I think... - Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
[04:43] <sohaibma> ok, but thanks anyway
[04:43] <tsoler> the run apllication
[04:43] <fdoving> Ambimom: no, thanks for the tip.
[04:43] <Ambimom> fdoving: yw
[04:43] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, as i said, go to a terminal :)
[04:43] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, no worries - good luck: in general if you can, use an external serial port modem with linux - they all work
[04:44] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, soft modems are braindead
[04:44] <sohaibma> thoreau, can you give me name of some modems that works perfectly well with ubuntu LTS 6.06, so i can buy a new one
[04:44] <tsoler> allright
[04:44] <tsoler> its loadin
[04:44] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, any hardware external serial port modem
[04:44] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what is loading? :) please, give as much info as you can, since i cant se what is happening for my self :)
 any specific companies/models?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, US robotics for example make them, I believe
[04:45] <tsoler> ok im runnin gparted now
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> good
[04:45] <sohaibma> ok thanks
[04:45] <Ambimom> Linux Reality has hardware links
[04:45] <thoreauputic> sohaibma, I have an ancient Acer "Surf" modem here, but I don't use it anymore since I have adsl2+
[04:45] <Begasus> is there anyone who has a download link to the 'real svg' icons for crystal?
[04:45] <xukun> this is really stupid but is't there a way to import music cd to amarok and then play it from there?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, in the drop down list, select the drive that contains you ntfs partition you want to mount :)
[04:45] <zoro> has anyone recently upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10?
[04:46] <nolimitsoya> look them through if you are unsure
[04:46] <LjL> !edgy > zoro
[04:46] <thoreauputic> zoro, lots of people I would say
[04:46] <tsoler> found it,
[04:46] <zoro> LjL: pfft - i know that :p
[04:46] <thoreauputic> zoro,  /j #ubuntu+1
[04:46] <fnf> iGadget: I'm using 2.01a38, sorry for not be able to help you further, in the mean time, you can try using another package: apt-cache search dvd record or something.
[04:46] <LjL> zoro: why are you asking here then? :-)
[04:46] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good. in teh partition-collumn, what does it say ?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> 'night all
[04:46] <Haldaug> Is there a way to change which soundcard Ubuntu uses?
[04:47] <Newbi8> Someone who could help me get enlightenment up and running on my system?
[04:47] <Ambimom> haldaug: yes, check the comprehensive sound guide full instructions there
[04:47] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, should start with /dev/'something'
[04:47] <zoro> LjL: all i wanted to know what how to enable aiglx by default ;)
[04:47] <fni> okay, i just ran xserver-xconf but xconf is still empty
[04:47] <Haldaug> Amaranth: Thank you. Where is the comprehensive sound guide?
[04:47] <LjL> zoro: #ubuntu-xgl deals with xgl/aiglx/compiz/beryl issues specifically
[04:47] <Ambimom> haldaug: link to comprehensive sound guide on page one of website
[04:47] <tsoler> dev/sda1 ??
[04:47] <SirKillalot> is there a easy way to show notifications in the gnome notification area?
[04:47] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good :)'
[04:47] <SirKillalot> something like zenity or so?
[04:47] <iGadget> fnf: okay I'll try, thanks
[04:47] <zoro> LjL: thanks :)
[04:48] <tsoler> whats good?
[04:48] <Newbi8> Someone who could help me get enlightenment up and running on my system?
[04:48] <tsoler> i can reach it now?
[04:48] <Ambimom> haldaug:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:48] <n1gke> Newbi8, I'm am loading it right now.
[04:48] <Haldaug> Ambimom: Thanks!
[04:49] <deadhobo> LjL: Thanks, I ran the commands and edited sources.list. Is it all set now?
[04:49] <castrone1es> Hey, I'm having a problem running a swing-based Java app. It partly runs but returns this in the console: phics cannot be cast to java.awt.Graphics2D
[04:49] <Ambimom> haldaug:yw
[04:49] <Newbi8> n1gke: You are?
[04:49] <tsoler> nolie
[04:49] <n1gke> Newbi8, yes. I am trying to, but it does not want to load.
[04:50] <tsoler> i can see that exists,  but i cannot browse it
[04:50] <n1gke> For me anyway.....
[04:50] <LjL> deadhobo: i don't know. i was just hoping that installing the official version of the nvidia driver, rather than the one installed by Automatix (whatever version it is), will solve your problem.
[04:50] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, open your fstab
[04:50] <LjL> deadhobo: now you may try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again, select the "nvidia" driver, and see if this time it works.
[04:50] <tsoler> yes sir
[04:50] <LjL> deadhobo: if it still doesn't, then *shrug*, i dunno
[04:50] <n1gke> Newbi8, it is telling me I have a manager running/open, even though I just re-booted from trying to install v6.10 Edgy Eft.
[04:50] <Newbi8> n1gke: But how did you get it to start loading at all?I can't seem to understand how to install it!
[04:50] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, in a new row, type: '/dev/sda1 /media/windows  ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1'
[04:51] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then open a terminal, and type 'sudo mkdir /media/windows'
[04:51] <reverie> Btw guys.
[04:51] <reverie> I've never seen such a big IRC chan in my life
[04:51] <reverie> ;-)
[04:51] <n1gke> Newbi8, I opened a terminal window and entered: enlightenment
[04:51] <deadhobo> LjL: Allrighty, I'll try that. At least now I know how to fix it :D
[04:51] <jhaig> The press release for version 6.10 RC gives a target release date of 26th.  Is this looking likely?  I ask as someone thinking of either installing 6.04 or waiting a few more days.
[04:51] <tsoler> should i save fstab?
[04:51] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes
[04:51] <Yourname> Hey, for some reason, when I plugin my eth cable, eth0 doesn't seem to be taking an IP from DHCP. Even static ip won't work properly for that matter
[04:52] <Yourname> Do you think it's because of 10/100 kinda configuration? Because I know even on Windows, it connects on 10mbps, not 100.
[04:52] <fnf> jhaig: The schedule doesn't seem to be changing, but I'd install Ubuntu Dapper as the new version might not get bug-free yet.
[04:52] <Yourname> How can I make it connect on 10mbps half-duplex?
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, when you done both the fstab edit, saved the fstab, done the terminal command to create the folder, your ntfs drive should show up in /media/windows on the next reboot :)
[04:53] <tsoler> it says it cannot create directory:'(
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, did you type sudo?
[04:53] <jhaig> fnf: Thanks.  Erm, dare I suggest that that is the purpose of beta/RC releases?  ;-)
[04:53] <tsoler> yap
[04:53] <tsoler> one moment
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, is there already a folder named windows there, or why cant it create the folder?
[04:54] <tsoler> thats the message i get
[04:54] <tsoler> cannot create directory `/media/windows': File exists
[04:54] <httpdss> !paste
[04:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:54] <fnf> jhaig: In all honesty, I'd trust the developers, but who knows ;) ?
[04:54] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you are all set then. just reboot :)
[04:54] <tsoler> are u sure?
[04:54] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you saved your fstab, yes
[04:54] <nolimitsoya> if it doesnt work, just come back here, and well sort it out
[04:54] <eltech> a little help here.. if i want to create a shortcut to a file or directory, how can i do that?
[04:55] <tsoler> saved the fstab , runned the sudo mkdir /media/windows. is that all ok
[04:55] <eltech> right click and create shortcut doesnt work :)
[04:55] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes :)
[04:55] <tsoler> allright
[04:55] <tsoler> im bootib now, be back soon
[04:57] <wasabi> huh?
[04:57] <nemoo> :D
[05:00] <nemoo> wasabi: http://www.getdeb.net
[05:01] <teknoprep> i hear ubuntu is starting to become a very good desktop os
[05:01] <teknoprep> good job to the dev's
[05:01] <eltech> im using the middle mouse button to try to create desktop shortcuts, but im getting the error that these links arent supported so it cant create the link
[05:01] <eltech> any idea?
[05:01] <fni> guys, when i make changes to xorg.conf do i have to restart? or is there a quicker way?
[05:02] <teknoprep> fni, press ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:02] <nolimitsoya> fni, press ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:02] <castroneves> Hey I'm having a problem running a swing application. Some of the graphics work, but others don't. It returns this on the console: java.lang.ClassCastException: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GdkGraphics cannot be cast t o java.awt.Graphics2D          Anybody any ideas?
[05:02] <teknoprep> it will kil X
[05:02] <eltech> error "Unsupported operation" while creating a link to "smb://dump/Misc".
[05:02] <fni> teknoprep, just did that but nothing happened??
[05:02] <wasabi> nemoo: WHy would I care about this?
[05:02] <teknoprep> fni, you just hit ctrl + alt + backspace "all at the same time" ?
[05:03] <eltech> so that seems to work for local, but not across the network .. hey teknoprep :)
[05:03] <teknoprep> whats up eltech
[05:03] <deadhob> LjL: I re-ran the config and rebooted, but how do I know if I am using the offical nvidia driver or the open source one?
[05:03] <eltech> same ole :)
[05:03] <tiede> hi. My laptop's keyboard have two extra keys (Dollar Sign and Euro Sign) that aren
[05:03] <nemoo> wasabi: just see u an ubuntu member :D
[05:03] <tsoler> urah
[05:03] <wasabi> ahh
[05:03] <fni> teknoprep, yup. held ctrl and alt then pressed backspace
[05:04] <wasabi> nemoo: Are you in charge of this?
[05:04] <tiede> hi. My laptop's keyboard have two extra keys (Dollar Sign and Euro Sign) that aren't mapped. Any idea on how to make ubuntu recognized them?
[05:04] <teknoprep> fni, i dunno but that should restart X
[05:04] <fni> does something happen on the gui?
[05:04] <teknoprep> fni, open up a console and type this in... killall X  or killall x
[05:04] <tsoler> i can see a windows disk in disk manager
[05:04] <nolimitsoya> tiede, use iso-8859-15
[05:04] <fni> thanks
[05:04] <tsoler> noli
[05:04] <teknoprep> fni, actually.. sudo killall X
[05:04] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes :)
[05:04] <wasabi> tiede: Go to the Keyboard preferences panel and select your model and locale.
[05:04] <nemoo> oh, wasabi sorry man
[05:04] <tsoler> i can see it
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good :)
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> can you read the files?
[05:05] <nemoo> wasabi:  i think u were my friend :)
[05:05] <LjL> deadhobo: if you're using the nvidia driver, you should see a white screen with the NVidia logo when X starts
[05:05] <tsoler> im a little confused with the dirs
[05:05] <fni> says "x: no processes killed"
[05:05] <tsoler> but yes
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, why?
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> whats confusing? :)
[05:05] <tsoler> wht is this access path?
[05:06] <deadhobo> LjL: I didn't see it :/ Under applications there is a nvidia settings thing though
[05:06] <reverie> Do I stick the firmware for my wifi card in /lib/firmware?
[05:06] <tiede> wasabi, molimitsoya, I cannot find the model corresponding to my keyboard, and there is no iso-8859-15 listed there neither...
[05:06] <brian98> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:06] <brian98> Is this for real?
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the partition is mounted in /media/windows, if thats what you are wondering :)
[05:06] <thor> fni: uppercase X
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> you can mount it somewhere else if you like
[05:06] <tsoler> which is a dir where to?
[05:06] <wasabi> tiede: On that same preferences pane, look at the Layout Options
[05:07] <jewbilee> brian89: yes
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> just make a folder, and edit you fstab, chaning the /media/windows to the full path of the new folder
[05:07] <fni> says "X: no processes killed"
[05:07] <LjL> deadhobo: type "grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- does it output anything?
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that is the dir :)
[05:07] <thor> fni: are you using sudo?
[05:07] <deeps> im trying to setup an adhoc wifi network between my windows xp machine and my ubuntu laptop and it wont work :(
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the / in front means its in your root file system
[05:07] <tiede> I tried that too, but as far as I know, there is no option there that let you assign a function to a key not previously mapped.
[05:07] <deeps> the 2 computers connect to each other, but wont exchange any traffic
[05:07] <tsoler> i dont mind about the name , but where is that dir ? inside ntfs or ext?
[05:08] <C-O-L-T> !xgl
[05:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:08] <deadhobo> LjL: No
[05:08] <LjL> deadhobo: then you're still using the "nv" driver. either you've not selected "nvidia" in the dpkg-reconfigure, or... dunno
[05:08] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, i dont get the question, but the drive filesystem is still ntfs. a mount tells you operatingsystem to display a device as if it where a file/directory
[05:08] <deadhobo> LjL: lol, probably an error on my part. I'll try configuring again
[05:09] <LjL> deadhobo: try just opening /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor and changing the line that reads Driver "nv" into Driver "nvidia", and then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[05:09] <fni> thor, yup. i typed "sudo killall X"
[05:09] <fni> it then asked for my pw
[05:09] <cached> i just put in a new video card and now x isn't booting up, what do i do?
[05:09] <tiede> nolimitsoya, where exactly will I find the iso-8859-15 you are talking about? and wasabi, the layout options are for specific keys (like the logo, alt and ctrl keys...)
[05:09] <thor> fni: right, any time you do something using sudo it will ask for your password before executing the command
[05:10] <tsoler> i also see cd rom and cd rom0 under media dir
[05:10] <hondje> cached: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the prompt should do the trick
[05:10] <tsoler> i only have one cd rom
[05:10] <cached> ok thanks
[05:10] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes, your cdrom is also mounted in /media. all extra devices in ubuntu are mounted in /media
[05:10] <fni> thor, yeah i know. i entered my password then it came back "X: no processes killed"
[05:11] <dfgas> how do i give permission to a user to mount smb shares?
[05:11] <thor> fni:...ok, then X isn't running. type 'startx'
[05:11] <thor> that should restart the X server
[05:11] <hondje> dfgas: are you using smbmount?
[05:11] <tsoler> so whats the second cdrom nolie?
[05:11] <fni> i've just restarted now. hopefully that will re-populate my screen res options
[05:11] <dfgas> hondje, it tells me that only root can do that
[05:11] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the same as the first one. :)
[05:12] <iratsu_> hmm if all devices are mounted in /media, what's the point of /mnt?
[05:12] <thor> fni: alt+ctrl+backspace will restart it also. I usually have to tap backspace a couple of times while holding alt+ctrl
[05:12] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, a user might have more than onte cdrom, there fore they numbered
[05:12] <thor> fni: the screen will flash...that will be X restarting
[05:12] <fnf> iratsu_: That's probably for backward compatibility.
[05:12] <gyoffi> guys, what package should I "dpkg-reconfigure" to set the nice value for the X server??
[05:12] <fni> thor, so what exactly is X? is it always running?
[05:12] <deadhobo> LjL: I edited it, but gedit won't let me save it... I'm assuming thats because I am not root?
[05:12] <tsoler> it sees it under ubuntu and under windows s u mean nolie, so it doubles it?
[05:12] <hondje> dfgas: You'll need to edit /etc/fstab
[05:13] <LjL> deadhobo: good assumption. use "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit it
[05:13] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no, but if you had two cdrom drives, the second would be mounted in cdrom1
[05:13] <alupius> how I save something in vi editor ?
[05:13] <Axord> !x > Axord
[05:13] <thor> fni: X is the graphic environment. Without it all you have is a 'dos prompt' (linux gods forgive me)
[05:13] <tiede> dmesg outputs "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xb4 on isa0060/serio0). Use 'setkeycodes e034 <keycode>' to make it known" what does that mean I have to do?
[05:13] <hondje> dfgas: with smbfs as the type, and with user (and probably umask=022) in the options field
[05:13] <boink> command prompt, it's called
[05:13] <lishak> hi:)is any flash8 package in repos?
[05:13] <fnf> alupius: 'vimtutor' should give you a hint, try ':w'
[05:14] <boink> hasn't flash 9 for linux come out?
[05:14] <tsoler> i only have one cd rom and it gets cdrom and cdrom0
[05:14] <Axord> flash 9 beta
[05:14] <alupius> fnf, and to quit ? ":q" ?
[05:14] <fnf> boink: AFAIK, it's still in beta.
[05:14] <boink> linux is beta too :P
[05:14] <fnf> alupius: yup.
[05:14] <lishak> boink:and flash8 dont y please know the name of the package?
[05:14] <fni> thor, oh. i always thought gnome or kde was the graphics environment
[05:14] <boink> lishak: I don't know if there is a package
[05:14] <boink> it's just a plugin, right?
[05:15] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then all is as it sould. im just explaining why there is a folder callen cdrom0
[05:15] <picasso> does anyone know how to get my modem working on Inspiron 6000 laptop? it is Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC.97 Modem
[05:15] <thor> fni: there are several layers involved. Gnome or KDE runs on top of X and a window manager usually runs on top of them
[05:15] <boink> in linux you have a very wide choice of window managers
[05:15] <dcordes> oh yes
[05:15] <gyoffi> guys, what package should I "dpkg-reconfigure" to set the nice value for the X server??
[05:15] <boink> unlike windows, where you're stuck with one
[05:15] <dcordes> definetly
[05:16] <lishak> boink:aha:) y mean plugin into firefox dont y?
[05:16] <dcordes> you should try gnome with xgl / beryl
[05:16] <boink> lishak: yes
[05:16] <lishak> boink:thank you:)
[05:16] <boink> I installed the flash 9 plugin myself
[05:16] <boink> but I haven't tested it that much yet
[05:16] <tsoler> so cdrom 0 is not in used , in my case
[05:16] <hondje> gyoffi: that's something you'll have to put in the startup scripts for X by hand
[05:17] <sholden> I am currently using a GeForce3 card, and when I go to screen resolution, I cannot select anything higher than 1024.  Does anyone know how I can enable higher resolutions?
[05:17] <hondje> Or use renice I suppose
[05:17] <FuzzyBear> you can use different window managers in Windows
[05:17] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes it is. thats where you first (and in your case, only) cdrom gets mounted
[05:17] <tsoler> well done
[05:17] <lishak> boink:yes i will try 8 and 9 :)
[05:17] <teledyn> anyone know what the deal is with 686 kernel being obsolete?
[05:17] <gyoffi> hondje, in debian (sid) there was an option in reconfigure
[05:17] <boink> 686 kernel?
[05:17] <picasso> anyone know how to get AC'97 mnodem to work in ubuntu?
[05:17] <gyoffi> I thought ubuntu has too
[05:17] <hondje> whaaa, really?
[05:17] <graveson> is it possible to have a directory list populate a database automatically ? If so which so software can i use for this
[05:17] <hondje> well, the pkg is xserver-xorg
[05:17] <tsoler> but weve completed only the half
[05:18] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, oh, why?
[05:18] <boink> graveson: no
[05:18] <boink> you need to talk with the database
[05:18] <deadhobo> LjL: I restarted X and the same thing happened as my original problem... I think that driver must not be compatible with my videocard or something.
[05:18] <fni> thor: gotcha. i've restarted and now my res is 640x480. and for some reason the refresh rate is -25888Hz (and i cannot change either)
[05:18] <hondje> Might have to goof with -p on dpkg-reconfigure to get it to ask, though :o
[05:18] <tsoler> this disk is partioned (one partition windows the other my files)
[05:19] <dau> so finally
[05:19] <gyoffi> Could anyone give me a hand with setting up a bash script to adjust nice value for the X server?
[05:19] <tsoler> now i see only c and not d, so i see the windows and not my files
[05:19] <picasso> crazy how few people use modems anymore hehe
[05:19] <tsoler> :'(
[05:19] <klm-> where can I download flash 9 for ubuntu?
[05:19] <picasso> im going to try sl-modem-daemon
[05:19] <thor> fni: gotta run...my ride is here. sorry
[05:19] <boink> klm-: abode has flash for linux
[05:20] <fnf> picasso: does lspci returns something ?
[05:20] <dau> how can i set grep to show me 3 lines above or below an hit??
[05:20] <picasso> fnf, not sure, only got this one machine =\
[05:20] <klm-> boink: yea but it's only version 7
[05:20] <picasso> from what i read, it sees the device but has no drivers
[05:20] <boink> no, it's 9 beta
[05:20] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then type in a terminal, 'sudo mkdir /media/windows2', open up fstab, copy the line you put in the last time, paste it in a new row, edit the '/media/windows'-part to '/media/windows2', and change the '/dev/sda1' to the partition where your files are
[05:20] <picasso> (im booted in windows)
[05:20] <nolimitsoya> save, and reboot :)
[05:20] <CyberWorking> hmm
[05:20] <boink> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:20] <CyberWorking> when trying to install xchat
[05:20] <CyberWorking> i get an error
[05:20] <CyberWorking> "no C compiler found in $path"
[05:20] <fnf> picasso: I don't have one, if you couldn't find a Linux driver, try using ndiswrapper.
[05:21] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, i guess the partition you are interested in qould be /dev/sda2
[05:21] <FuzzyBear> graveson : find . -exec mysql -e "INSERT INTO table VALUES '{}'" \; or something might work
[05:21] <hondje> dau: -C I think
[05:21] <fnf> !ndiswrapper > picasso
[05:21] <CyberWorking> hmm
[05:21] <tsoler> ok will try this
[05:21] <sharperguy> whats tht doods popular 3rd party repo again?
[05:21] <picasso> fnf, this for modem, not wireless
[05:21] <CyberWorking> i see that it didnt find gcc... gcc is a good C compiler right?
[05:21] <graveson> FuzzyBear: thanks let me try that
[05:21] <boink> yes
[05:21] <deadhobo> Is there anything I should think about before plugging in a USB hub with an external sound card and bluetooth adapter?
[05:21] <hondje> dau: like grep -C3 term file for 3 lines on both sides
[05:21] <boink> do a gcc -v
[05:21] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good. ille be gone for 15min, but if you run into any problems, just ask me when i get back. :) ill highligt you when im back, to ask how things are going, ok?
[05:21] <FuzzyBear> graveson : obviously you have to edit to suit your needs
[05:21] <fnf> picasso: doh, sorry, so I'm of no use.
[05:21] <boink> if you don't have gcc, you would need to install it
[05:22] <boink> apt-get install build-essentials
[05:22] <dau> hondje: thx buddy
[05:22] <picasso> its cool, i tried dolwnloading some software package
[05:22] <graveson> FuzzyBear: yes thanks
[05:22] <boink> !build-essentials
[05:22] <fni> guys, i'm trying to set my screen resolution but it's set to 640x480 and when i click it there are no other options
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:23] <fnf> fni: should you take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the Screen section configures that.
[05:23] <FuzzyBear> is there a repository for CTAN packages?
[05:24] <CyberWorking> boink
[05:24] <fni> fnf, the desired res is already in xorg.conf. but for some reason they're not showing up in my screen resolution options
[05:24] <CyberWorking> "cant find package build essentials"
[05:24] <CyberWorking> "cant find package build-essentials"
[05:24] <fni> and my refresh rate is -25888hz O_o
[05:24] <fnf> fni: have you restarted X ?. What is your current driver ?.
[05:24] <boink> do an apt-cache search build-essential
[05:24] <tsoler> yes nolie, thanx a lot
[05:24] <sharperguy> CyberWorking, its build-essential bot essentialS
[05:25] <hondje> fni: Probably vert/horiz stuff then?
[05:25] <sharperguy> bot = not
[05:25] <boink> if you don't have that, you may have to update your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <CyberWorking> OH
[05:25] <CyberWorking> no s :P
[05:25] <CyberWorking> ye
[05:25] <eltech> is there a simple way to change the icons of items dropped on the desktop?
[05:25] <CyberWorking> no S boink :P
[05:25] <hondje> The HorizSync and VertRefresh fields in the Monitor section sometimes need to be filled in by hand to get all the right resolutions / refresh rates
[05:26] <gyoffi> Could anyone give me a hand with setting up a bash script to adjust nice value for the X server?
[05:26] <dau> does someone use an console irc-client?
[05:26] <fnf> gyoffi: what do you mean by nice value ?
[05:26] <C-O-L-T> when are we going to see automatic xgl in ubuntu? I mean like in Mandriva 2007, it is basic, you boot up mandriva and in most cases xgl/compiz works
[05:27] <boink> I use irssi
[05:27] <fni> anyone recommend a good VNC for ubuntu?
[05:27] <dau> boink: is irssi popular?
[05:27] <boink> yes
[05:27] <boink> and it's a good irc client too
[05:27] <CyberWorking> why the hell is my download speed diffrent :P
[05:27] <CyberWorking> with linux its around 50kb's a second
[05:27] <CyberWorking> in windows its 30kb's
[05:28] <hondje> gyoffi: renice VALUE -p `pgrep X` ?
[05:28] <fnf> fni: not really sure what's best for you, but xvnc4viewer and vncviewer packages work good enough for me.
 gyoffi: what do you mean by nice value ? <--- the nice value is a numeric value, to set a process's priority
[05:28] <dau> boink: so i can perfere it to xirc? i hope i works faster like ever console program
[05:28] <boink> dau: yes, it would work faster
[05:28] <fni> fnf, do both of them have a windows client?
[05:28] <boink> but irssi has a bit of a learning curve at first
[05:28] <fnf> fni: sure.
[05:29] <FuzzyBear> gyoffi : sed 's/^xinit/nice -n 0 xinit/'  /usr/bin/startx > newstartx
[05:29] <dau> boink: it took me quiet a while to get connected :) and window management and how to quit is not clear either is there a good tutorial like in vi?
[05:29] <gyoffi> FuzzyBear, thx
[05:30] <boink> dau: maybe on the irssi site
[05:30] <fnf> gyoffi: you may just alias 'startx' with 'nice' prepended.
[05:30] <dcordes> where can i set that the volume keys on my keyboard regulate not the Master volume control but PCM ?
[05:30] <boink> and there's always man irssi as well
[05:31] <gyoffi> thanks fnf, FuzzyBear and hoelk
[05:31] <gyoffi> hondje.
[05:31] <dau> hi
[05:31] <dau> hm
[05:31] <dau> hm funny somehow
[05:32] <dau> this is #linux right?
[05:32] <dau> o :)
[05:32] <bcs> Does the nvidia security problem affect nvidia legacy driver
[05:32] <fnf> dcordes: alsamixer would do the job, for a command line-able command try aumix
[05:32] <jbmigel> dau you are in #ubuntu ask a question if you dare
[05:33] <ProN00b> hmm, is there any tea timer applet for gnome or something ?
[05:33] <AsheD> are there any commandline mp3 taggers that support id3v2 AND use an ISO charset?
[05:33] <dau> jbmigel, just messed up in irssi don't know which is my window and stuff
[05:33] <lenath> Hi,
[05:33] <lenath> I would like to setup a cron job which would automatically empty the trash every day at 6:30PM. The following is the command I will insert in crontab, will this do the job? Code: 	30 18 * * * rmdir -r ~/.Trash/*
[05:34] <rebor> i have two perfect getting started links for irssi if anyone wants them?
[05:34] <dcordes> fnf: i'm in alsamixer right now. i can see how the master bar moves up and down when i press the volume keys. but where can i change that the keys regulate PCM ?
[05:34] <rebor> *perfect links
[05:34] <CyberWorking> wow xchat takes long to ./configure
[05:34] <CyberWorking> :P
[05:34] <dcordes> master has no effect on my real volume
[05:34] <gyoffi> rebor, I'm interested in that
[05:34] <okapi> Anyone know something about status 102 generate by Samba?
[05:34] <rebor> gyoffi: hold on it's on another computer
[05:34] <gyoffi> ok
[05:35] <fnf> dcordes: you'll want to setup a small configuration file '.xmodmaprc' in your home directory, then tell your window manager to automatically invoke the command 'xmodmap .cmodmaprc' at X boot time.
[05:35] <CyberWorking> AHHH
[05:35] <dau> boink: is it possible that irssi has to rooms like #ubuntu and #linux in the same windows? or is it just the status messages leaving and joining
[05:35] <fnf> !xmodmap
[05:35] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:36] <CyberWorking> ./configure gave some "GLIB" error & now i cant "make" or "sudo make install"
[05:36] <dcordes> erm
[05:36] <rebor_> IRSSI LINKS - http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi and this http://selcouth.com/irssi.php
[05:36] <CyberWorking> "this usually means glib is incorrectly installed :/
[05:37] <fnf> dcordes: xmodmap remaps the key on your keyboard, I'm sure you'll get an idea after reading the man pages. I'll post a sample if you prefer.
[05:37] <dau> so
[05:37] <dau> so
[05:37] <dcordes> fnf: a sample would be great
[05:37] <fnf> dcordes: keycode 176=XF86AudioRaiseVolume
[05:38] <lenath> Does anyone know the terminal command to empty the trash?
[05:38] <CyberWorking> empty the trash :P
[05:38] <CyberWorking> nice way of putting it
[05:38] <lenath> lol
[05:39] <CyberWorking> any way ill be back later
[05:39] <CyberWorking> i need to close irc so i stop getting distracted
[05:39] <fnf> dcordes: you'll need to invoke xev to know what's the keycode of your volume keys.
[05:39] <lenath> Jst want to play around with crontab
[05:39] <tsoler> nolie
[05:40] <lenath> is this right? rmdir -r ~/.Trash/*
[05:40] <dau> ddd
[05:41] <dcordes> i have a file called pcmplease.xmodmaprc in my home folder, in my session startup there is an entry called "xmodmap .cmodmaprc" now and this xev gives me some weird numbers
[05:42] <fnf> dcordes: what does it say ?
[05:42] <sethk> lenath, better is   rm -fr ~/.Trash/.    note the dot at the end
[05:42] <Scorpmoon> being able to only assign one user:group to a directory, how do I solve the dilemma of having both a web (browser) user accessing my /var/www folder, and having an ftp user (admin) accessing it simultaneously?
[05:42] <sohaibma> Does anyone know how to remove old modem drivers (the ones set ubuntu auto detection) and install new ones. (i have downloaded new drivers)
[05:42] <fnf> dcordes: actually that's half of the story, you'd need to do one more step.
[05:42] <sohaibma> Does anyone know how to remove old modem drivers (the ones set by ubuntu automatically) and install new ones. (i have downloaded new drivers)
[05:42] <dau> hi am i in #ubuntu or in #linux?
[05:43] <Scorpmoon> dau, #windows
[05:43] <dau> Scorpmoon, funny
[05:43] <dcordes> KeymapNotify event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[05:43] <dcordes>     keys:  2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[05:43] <dcordes>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[05:43] <dcordes> PropertyNotify event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x3000001,
[05:43] <dcordes>     atom 0xba (_NET_WM_STATE), time 1890638738, state PropertyNewValue
[05:43] <dcordes> sorry :-(
[05:44] <sohaibma> Does anyone know how to remove old modem drivers (the ones set by ubuntu automatically) and install new ones. (i have downloaded new drivers)
[05:44] <dau> /test /status doesn't give me an answer :(
[05:44] <sethk> sohaibma, drivers are usually kernel modules.  What did you download, exactly?
[05:44] <fnf> dcordes: alsamixer can't, but aumix can be invoked from the command line to set PCM value, the next step is to tell your window manager to call 'aumix -v+5' (for example) when you press the VolumeRaise button.
[05:44] <javiolo> hi
[05:45] <javiolo> how can I mount a fat32 partition to copy files from ubuntu ?
[05:45] <sethk> javiolo, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[05:45] <sethk> javiolo, hda1 is just an example, of course, it depends on your partition layout
[05:45] <FuzzyBear> mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt
, i have a conexant soft 56k modem, ubuntu detected it as Riptide HSF Modem, now i want to install the drivers i downloaded from the vendor's website how do i do that
[05:45] <dcordes> fnf: how do i do so? as i said i only have the blank file and the startup entry by now
[05:46] <fnf> dcordes: unfortunately, that depends on your particular window manager/DE, I'm using icewm right now so I have no idea how to couple a key with a commnd in GNOME. You may try to look at System --> Administration --> Keyboard or something.
[05:46] <sethk> sohaibma, what did you download?  a package?  a tar archive?  files?
[05:46] <MaxRandor> snoops: I tried reburning the disk at half the speed but I ran into the same problem DRS-DOS
[05:46] <markdrago> I found a bug in an ubuntu package and would like to contribute a patch.  I'm wondering how I can access ubuntu package sources from source control.
[05:46] <fnf> "Gotta back to work, see you people"
[05:47] <javiolo> sethk thanks
[05:47] <sohaibma> a .deb file and a License file in .zip folder
[05:47] <sohaibma> sethk, its a .deb file and a License file in .zip folder
[05:47] <sethk> sohaibma, if it is a deb, and is intended for ubuntu (rather than debian), you install it with dpkg
[05:48] <webben> Has anyone else found this: any time i copy from a document in OpenOffice writer, then try to paste (into Gaim), OpenOffice crashes and quits
[05:48] <sohaibma> sethk, sorry i am a newbie so i didn't get you
[05:48] <sohaibma> sethk, what is dpkg
[05:49] <Foolish> WHere can I get a package list of the kubuntu live cd?
[05:49] <sethk> sohaibma, dpkg is a program.  you run it at the command line.
[05:49] <sethk> sohaibma, do  man dpkg     for general instructions
[05:49] <dcordes> fnf: i only can set a different key for volume up/down there but not set it to PCM
[05:49] <sethk> sohaibma, normally you would say:   dpkg --install whatever.deb
[05:50] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, hows it going?
[05:50] <sohaibma> sethk, so i dont need to remove the old drivers, i just need to run the package?
[05:50] <Studiosus> help! installed sim (icq client), and there's no icq icon (flower), so look is quite ugly :( how to fix?
[05:50] <sethk> sohaibma, ordinarily, yes.
[05:50] <sethk> sohaibma, you can always remove the other one later, if necessary
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Foolish: I'm not sure, but I think there's a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCdCustomization that might say something useful?
[05:51] <fnf> dcordes: you need to tell GNOME (I suppose that's what you're using ?) to invoke aumix instead. Try setting it in Keyboard section in System
[05:51] <dcordes> yep i use gnome with xgl / beryl
[05:51] <xplore> hi.can ubuntu be installed along with win xp and freebsd? any precautions?
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Studiosus: You mean in the Gnome applications menu?
[05:51] <lando> how can i burn an iso? does ubuntu come with this software installed?
[05:51] <sohaibma> sethk, please help me; how do i remove it
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> !burniso
[05:51] <ubotu> burniso is To burn an ISO CD in windows, mac, or linux, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:51] <fnf> dcordes: have you tried aumix yet ?
[05:51] <Studiosus> no, in sim itself, all icons except flower :(
[05:51] <dcordes> no
[05:51] <dcordes> i will give it a shot wait
[05:51] <sonics> high
[05:52] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ?
[05:52] <cached> how do i increase my resolution past 1024x768?
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> !fixres | cached
[05:52] <ubotu> cached: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:52] <nolimitsoya> cached, type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable those resolutions you want to use
[05:52] <Studiosus> so, for example, in notification area there's not sim icon but qt default icon
[05:52] <rambo3> do i need glases , every new ubuntu get smaller and smaller fonts
[05:53] <dcordes> fnf: i can only control the volume there right?
[05:53] <nolimitsoya> rambo3, just increase them if you need to ;)
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> Studiosus: Two options: a) Contact the package maintainer, b) poke around for a while.  Sorry, can't help you much with a specific app that I haven't used personally :(
[05:53] <rambo3> nolimitsoya, i know how to do that , just asking if its fonts that get smaler
[05:53] <sohaibma> sethk, please help me; how do i remove the old drivers?
[05:54] <fnf> dcordes: with aumix you can change anything that alsamixer support, the diffrence is that it can be change through command line, you'll use that to tell GNOME to invoke that command each time a Volume key is pressed.
[05:54] <nolimitsoya> rambo3, i havnt noticed any such behaviour, no
[05:54] <sethk> sohaibma, dpkg --remove   if you know the package name
[05:54] <bcstev> IS there a security problem with Nvidia driver?
[05:54] <dcordes> ok now i'm getting the outline of what you are trying to explain.. :-) but how can i find out which command this is?
[05:55] <sohaibma> seth, the drivers were autocatically installed by ubuntu, how do i find out the package name?
[05:55] <rambo3> !topic > bcstev
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <computer13137> I was wondering if anyone here has ever setup a Halo dedicated server on Ubuntu.  I would like to try to do this, but I'm not sure what emulation software I need, etc... I would appreciate someone pushing me in the right direction if you know.  :)
[05:55] <fnf> dcordes: a few examples: global volume: aumix -v+10, PCM: aumix -w-5
[05:56] <tsoler> yes
[05:56] <tsoler> ere u here?
[05:56] <Studiosus> thx, is it just me, or here's only messages with starting 'help!' or something get answered? :)
[05:56] <deadhobo> Hello... I have a Sound Blaster Extigy plugged in and recignized in the device manager... I switched my default sound device to it, but VLC does not use the correct card
[05:56] <tsoler> noliemitsoya
[05:56] <fnf> dcordes: 'man aumix' should tell it all. After that, configure GNOME to call that command then you're good to go.
[05:56] <dcordes> fnf i guess that's too complicated for me :-(
[05:56] <tsoler> are u with me?
[05:58] <sohaibma> sethk, the drivers were autocatically installed by ubuntu, how do i find out the package name?
[05:58] <fnf> dcordes: it's not that difficutl, you're running a Linux box ;) the man page is your friend.
[05:58] <tsoler> nolie
[05:58] <tsoler> bad luck
[05:59] <cryptonic> can someone help me with this, im trying to add a file in the usr/lib64/mozilla/ folder but i have no write access, when i try to add write access in properties it wont let me saying i am not the owner
[05:59] <sohaibma> sethk, are you there?
[05:59] <cryptonic> ?
[05:59] <fnf> dcordes: see ya.
[05:59] <rambo3> cryptonic, why not use ldconf
[05:59] <dcordes> fnf ok. thanks for your help i'm much appreacheated
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, did everything work out?
[06:00] <cryptonic> idconf?
[06:00] <tsoler> ha
[06:00] <rambo3> ldconfig
[06:00] <cached> thanks for helping me with resolution!
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ?
[06:00] <tsoler> i did leave u a personal im
[06:00] <cryptonic> how do i do that?
[06:00] <cached> now, one more question. how do i get the mouse wheel to work again
[06:00] <tsoler> yes
[06:00] <tsoler> nolie
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that never got through it seems :)
[06:00] <cached> it's a 5 button mouse
[06:00] <rambo3> save path to your new lib in /etc/ld.so something something and run ldconfig
[06:00] <nonrootuser> hi!
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, great :)
[06:00] <tsoler> ive made a msitake i think
[06:01] <nonrootuser> I'm a newbbie
[06:01] <nolimitsoya> what mistake?
[06:01] <tsoler> i didnt change to windows2 in fstab
[06:01] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then do :)
[06:01] <nonrootuser> is there a channel for beginners?
[06:01] <tsoler> now i see windows and windows2 but the same contents
[06:01] <dau> hm
[06:02] <tsoler> that simple?
[06:02] <dau> where am i?
[06:02] <dau> !status
[06:02] <cryptonic> is there any way to get ownership within the browser?
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <tsoler> u mean change the fstab again?
[06:02] <nonrootuser> maybe I'm breaking netiquette?
[06:03] <rambo3> cryptonic, you can run sudo nautilus
[06:03] <rbil> nonrootuser, you're a beginner of what?
[06:03] <nonrootuser> of ubuntu..
[06:03] <nonrootuser> maybe you can see
[06:04] <rbil> well as far as I know you're in it :-)
[06:04] <nonrootuser>  that I'm using breezy
[06:04] <nonrootuser> I gotta upgrade to Dapper
[06:04] <nonrootuser> but I'm on a 56k..
[06:04] <dau> dir
[06:04] <Gavrila> is hibernate not finding swap partition a known problem for edgy ?
[06:04] <Yourname> Hi, how can I update wpa_supplicant to latest available stable version, using apt-get?
[06:05] <rebor_> nonrootuser: wait for edgy to come out and buy a magazine with it on the cover.
[06:05] <nonrootuser> ok
[06:05] <nonrootuser> the pkgs are too heavy?
[06:05] <cryptonic> sudo nautilus?
[06:06] <cryptonic> all i need to do is copy over one file to the mozilla directory to enable flash?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> !flash | cryptonic
[06:06] <ubotu> cryptonic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:07] <cryptonic> i knwo what to do
[06:07] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again. (Static IP)
[06:07] <cryptonic> paste the flash.so to the usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ folder
[06:07] <cryptonic> but i have no write access
[06:07] <nolimitsoya_> Lattyware, didnt you ask this a while ago, and got quite a few suggestions? have you tried them all?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> cryptonic: Use sudo
[06:08] <cryptonic> sudo???????? in filebrowser
[06:08] <nonrootuser> thank you all
[06:08] <nolimitsoya_> cryptonic, alt+f2 'gksu nautilus'
[06:08] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya_: I got two, which I didn't understand fully, I asked the people who gave the suggestions, and they failed to respond.
[06:08] <nolimitsoya_> Lattyware, in bios, set the irq of the pci slot of your soundcard by hand
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> cryptonic: Be very very careful if you're running about in nautilus as root.
[06:09] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya_: Could you explain what the irq is?
[06:10] <nolimitsoya_> Lattyware, define:irq -> google.com ;)
[06:10] <tuxi> i want format a floppy with fdformat
[06:10] <Lattyware> fair enough
[06:10] <XVampireX> What's the package for the md5 utility?
[06:10] <Gavrila> anyone having problems with swapon and hibernate?
[06:10] <tuxi> the problem i have no fd01440 or fdu1440 device
[06:11] <tuxi> how can i add the device
[06:11] <nolimitsoya_> tsoler, :)
[06:11] <XVampireX> What's the package for the md5 utility?
[06:11] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya_: OK, I will try that, can't say I have noticed a bios option before...
[06:11] <XVampireX> !md5sum
[06:11] <ubotu> To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[06:11] <nolimitsoya_> tsoler, did you change your fstab to read  '/dev/sda2' and '/media/windows2/' in the new line?
[06:11] <tsoler> yes
[06:12] <nolimitsoya_> did it do any good?
[06:12] <rbil> XVampireX, you talking about md5sum? I believe it's installed by default, but I could be wrong
[06:12] <tuxi> can help me anybody
[06:12] <tsoler> GREAT
[06:12] <tsoler> hoora
[06:12] <nolimitsoya_> !anybody > tuxi
[06:12] <nolimitsoya_> tsoler, glad for you :)
[06:12] <tsoler> :) now i can see
[06:12] <XVampireX> Ah, rbil, thanks :)
[06:12] <tsoler> and i found also shortcuts in my desktop
[06:12] <dv5000> what ubuntu sites should i read from time to time if i want to be update whit the latest progresses ect?
[06:12] <xplore> anybody please tell me whether i can install ubuntu along with freebsd and xp. currently i have only xp. any precautions?
[06:13] <cached> how do i activate the mousewheel
[06:13] <deadhobo> Anyone here have experience with the Soundblaster Extigy?
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> xplore, yes you can. just du a backup of your data, before resizing and stuff...
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> deadhobo, they arent working
[06:13] <cached> how do i activate the mousewheel?
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> deadhobo, disregard that >_<
[06:13] <xplore> nolimitsoya_: thanx
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> thought of xfi
[06:13] <deadhobo> nolimitsoya_, ok... lol
[06:14] <tsoler> nolie thanx a lot:)
[06:14] <niklas_e> is there any free sms service that you can use to send sms when you get emails?
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> np tsoler, thats what a community is about, right? :)
[06:14] <deadhobo> niklas_e, yes, I think there is one called teleflip or something...
[06:14] <tsoler> u are all very helpfull
[06:14] <dv5000> !news
[06:14] <niklas_e> thanks ;)
[06:15] <tsoler> nolie are u just a user like me?
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes i am. everyone in here is. :)
[06:15] <cached> Please help Colon open parenthesis
[06:15] <tsoler> or u are involved in ubuntu developing?
[06:15] <frank_b> how much better is firefox than the epiphany web browser? is firefox safer for example?
[06:15] <cached> how do i get the mousewheel to work. the tutorials online didnt seem to work
[06:15] <Yourname> Anything special I need to do to logon to a WPA2 network, when I have nm, (and have drviers installed with ndiswrapper) wpa_supplicant, linux-wlan-ng installed?
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, everyone here is just average users helping eachother out. noone is getting payed, and i font think any developers are active :)
[06:16] <tsoler> thanks god there is ubuntu then
[06:16] <rbil> cached, what type of a mouse is it? should just work if setup in xorg.conf
[06:16] <Toma-> frank_b: theyre both based from mozilla...
[06:17] <frank_b> Toma-, hmm thanks
[06:17] <dv5000> what ubuntu sites should i read from time to time if i want to be update whit the latest progresses ect?
[06:17] <cached> rbil: 5 button mouse. it was working before i reconfigured xorg but i think i got all the options correct
[06:17] <rbil> :-)
[06:17] <tsoler> but there is still an issue of transition
[06:17] <XiCillin> is there anyway to make it so a screen saver never comes on and your screen never automatically turns off?
[06:17] <rbil> you got a backup anywhere of xorg.conf
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, yes, in your screensaver settings :)
[06:17] <frank_b> Toma-, so I won't have a less safe browsing experience if I start using epiphany instead?
[06:17] <cached> rbil: no
[06:18] <Toma-> frank_b: id say no.
[06:18] <cached> rbil: i had to reconfigure it for a new video card
[06:18] <XiCillin> nolimitsoya, i just see a choice for a screen saver or 'blank screen' i just want to have the screen stay on!
[06:18] <deadhobo> how does one find/install drivers for hardware?
[06:18] <tsoler> all here are windows ex usures?
[06:18] <frank_b> Toma-, hmm thank you very much :)
[06:18] <rbil> can I pm you cached ?
[06:18] <cached> rbil, sure
[06:18] <Toma-> frank_b: np. epiphany lacks features tho.
[06:18] <Toma-> imho
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, in advanced, uncheck the 'power management enabled' box
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, and in 'display modes', change mode to 'no screensaver'
[06:19] <anon32> YAY, only um... 2 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 57 seconds until dist-upgrade completes
[06:19] <frank_b> Toma-, yes, I've noticed that. the thing is firefox doesn't load some pages right for me
[06:19] <tsoler> there is a need to write ntfs in order of  making the transition
[06:19] <anon32> my connection pwns, lol
[06:19] <XiCillin> nolimisoya, in gnome?
[06:19] <rbil> cached, didn't work ... you aren't registerd. try to pm me and we'll see if that works
[06:19] <frank_b> Toma-, I'll compare the two more to make a decision
[06:19] <Toma-> frank_b: try swiftfox? doubt it'll change anything but m,ight help
[06:20] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, in screensaver preferences. im using xfce, though i think the gnome equvalent is the same
[06:20] <frank_b> Toma-, didn't know that one. I'll look for it. thanks
[06:20] <anon32> tsoler, currently, the best way to write to ntfs is with captive ntfs, but it's not very legal
[06:20] <tsoler> captive?
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes it is. though you must own a windows license :)
[06:21] <XiCillin> nah, the only choices i have in gnome sceensaver preferences is to choose a screen saver or 'blank screen' there is a checkbox for "ACtivate screensaver when session is idle" i unchecked it
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the best (non windows way) is ntfs-3g
[06:21] <XiCillin> so maybe it'lll never come on
[06:21] <anon32> tsoler, it uses the Windows ntfs.sys to perform read/writes
[06:21] <XiCillin> and in power manegment htere is no advancex
[06:21] <anon32> nolimitsoya, read your windows license, that constitutes using windows on another machine
[06:21] <tsoler> guys im having two windows licences
[06:22] <deadhobo> I have a logitech bluetooth hub for my mouse and keyboard that is recignized, but does not work. Where should I start to look for drivers?
[06:22] <coolzero> salut a tous
[06:22] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya: I couldn't find any settings to do that.
[06:22] <tsoler> but i m sick of it i want to make a transition
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> anon32, im thinking of a dual boot situation, since that will be the situation in what you may want to use a ntfs drive :)
[06:22] <cached> rbil, are you there?
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> thats still one system
[06:23] <tsoler> i am on a dual boot
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what are you trying to do?
[06:23] <rbil> cached, are u registered with nickserv?
[06:23] <anon32> tsoler, format, install, finish
[06:23] <tsoler> dont you?
[06:23] <cached> rbil, yes
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you want to write to ntfs partitions?
[06:23] <tsoler> want to write ntfs
[06:23] <Lattyware> ...
[06:23] <cached> rbil, -NickServ- You have already identified
[06:23] <rbil> cache, well I thought I was too, but not working, I'll do it again. Did it a few days ago
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, give me 5min, and ill find a ntfs-3g guide, ok? :)
[06:23] <XVampireX> Hey
[06:23] <XVampireX> I don't know if it's a good place to talk about it
[06:24] <tsoler> ok nollie
[06:24] <anon32> I don't dual-boot, my disk space is limited enough as is
[06:24] <anon32> tsoler, google for captive-ntfs, nobody follows the rules anyway
[06:24] <tsoler> those extension ive installed cause the bad boot though
[06:24] <XVampireX> But when you people help people to linux, do you expect them to know everything or do you help them with say... the mindset of linux/open source/unix?
[06:25] <Toma-> XVampireX: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:25] <anon32> tsoler, do you still need your Windows install?
[06:25] <XVampireX> I know, but it's still related
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CaptiveHowTo <- thats the captive way, though ntfs-3g is to be preferred imo. also, youll have to grope around the fstab again
[06:25] <XVampireX> meh
[06:25] <tsoler> anan32: i own a windows licence
[06:26] <anon32> tsoler, that's not what I asked
[06:26] <anon32> the easiest thing to do if you don't need your Windows install anymore would be to backup and format as XFS, ResierFS, or ext3
[06:26] <tsoler> yes of course
[06:26] <tsoler> i need windows
[06:26] <tsoler> im two days using ubuntu
[06:26] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, just follow the guide i gave you for captive, or wait for a 3g guide, ok? :)
[06:26] <anon32> nolimitsoya, if you use ntfs-3g, you have to boot to windows and chkdsk fairly often
[06:27] <anon32> tsoler, you should try using a third partition to store your data, fat32 or ext2 can both have full support in Windows
[06:27] <rbil> cached, sorry don't know what's going on? looks like pm is blocked
[06:27] <Justi1> hello everyone. i am completely new to linux and just ran ubuntu off the live CD. before I actually install ubuntu on my system i was wondering how i can use my dual monitors. can anyone help me?
[06:27] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, fat32 is a big nono, and etx2 isnt journaled :)
[06:27] <cached> rbil someone else managed to pm me. is it possibly a problem on your side?
[06:27] <tsoler> look
[06:28] <rbil> cached, certainly possible. I too had it working.
[06:28] <anon32> nolimitsoya, meh
[06:28] <tsoler> ihave on disk with only ubuntu
[06:28] <elias_> my gamin does not seem to get started!
[06:28] <anon32> life's about compromise
[06:28] <elias_> what's wrong?
[06:28] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+3g <- thats 3g
[06:29] <ianmacgregor> cached: You are id'd to nickserv, rbil is not so you won't see his pm's. He needs to id to nickserv in order to pm you
[06:29] <nolimitsoya> anon32, not being able to have bigger files than 4gb is not a compromice, its a showstopper. also, having questionable fsck och no journal is baaaad
[06:30] <[erisco] > how do you permanately (spl?) show hidden and backup files?
[06:30] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya: I couldn't find any settings to do that.
[06:30] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, are thing clearing up somewhat?
[06:30] <anon32> nolimitsoya, and if you try using ntfs-3g or captive-ntfs, you could wreck the file system, again, compromise
[06:30] <nolimitsoya> Lattyware, sry, cant help you then :) perhaps someonw else can. you can always post in the forums
[06:30] <anon32> [erisco] , in nautilus?
[06:31] <Lattyware> ok, thanks for your attempts, anyway.
[06:31] <silox> I try to install Cedega, but i fails on "3d acceleration" and "Open GL", i have a Dell Inspiron 8100 with a NVIDIA Geforce2 Go graphiccard. Whats the problem?
[06:31] <Justi1> can anyone help me with my dual monitor situation?
[06:31] <nolimitsoya> !anyone > Justi1
[06:31] <Lattyware> Justi1: I've done alot of that, I'll try.
[06:31] <ianmacgregor> [erisco] : View -> Show hidden files
[06:31] <Lattyware> It's a hell of alot easier if you have an nVidia graphics card, I'll say that to begin with.
[06:32] <Justi1> nvidia i have
[06:32] <anon32> !nvidia > silox
[06:32] <tsoler> yes but there are problems i see
[06:32] <[erisco] > anon32, yeah
[06:32] <ianmacgregor> [erisco] : Preferences, Views tab, Show hidden and backup files
[06:32] <Lattyware> Justi1: So, what is the problem?
[06:32] <webben> Can someone remind me where to add new templates to nautilus?
[06:32] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ntfs on linux means problems anyway you try to go. :)
[06:33] <anon32> [erisco] , view > show hidden files
[06:33] <silox> anon32 i have the nvidia drivers installed
[06:33] <dijungal> isn't there a tool that allows u to write to NTFS partitions now..?
[06:33] <tsoler> i own a licence so i have a choise betwwen captive and ntfs -3g
[06:33] <anon32> that should work
[06:33] <[erisco] > thanks
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the best thing is to decidewhat tasks you want done, how many of those you can do on linux, and just isolate those there. then there is no need to read/write between systems
[06:33] <tsoler> which do u thinjk its the best?
[06:33] <sethk> dijungal, there has been for three years.  supposedly it works better now, but I don't trust it.
[06:33] <Lattyware> Justi1: ...
[06:34] <dijungal> sethk: i mean write not read only ehhh
[06:34] <anon32> silox, err... have you tried #cedega?
[06:34] <Justi1> wel lattyware, i just stared up the live cd and my second monitor says it is our of range
[06:34] <anon32> maybe it's ##cedega
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, any of them is a bad coice in my opinion :)
[06:34] <Justi1> but being a complete webie to linux/ubuntu, i have no idea where to go change that sort of thing
[06:34] <[erisco] > still did not work
[06:34] <dijungal> so it's not trust worthy enough to include in ubuntu as yet...
[06:34] <silox> anon32 ill try thx
[06:34] <dijungal> ?
[06:34] <bruenig> such a newbie, can't even spell it
[06:34] <[erisco] > nevermind, had to restart the file browser
[06:34] <[erisco] > thanks, it worked
[06:34] <anon32> !nvidia > Justi1
[06:34] <anon32> make sure you do that first
[06:34] <tsoler> three or four years of data are in my ntfs disk
[06:34] <Lattyware> Right. Well, to get dual moniters to work, you would need it on your hard drive.
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, for one thing, ntfs is a crappy filesystem, and writing to ntfs fromlinx has alwas been a lot of extra trouble
[06:35] <Ademan_sleep> what electrical engineering software exists for ubuntu? i found "electric" in the repositories, along with eagle, anything else? which is better? etc?
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, copy it to you linux drive then :)
[06:35] <anon32> [erisco] , really? go to edit > preferences
[06:35] <anon32> nvm
[06:35] <sethk> Ademan_sleep, nothing, really
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that is, all tha data you can use in linux
[06:35] <Lattyware> Either that or somehow make the edits then burn them to a CD, which is way beyond me, in any case.
[06:35] <Justi1> ahh ok, thanks lattyware
[06:35] <Lattyware> Not at all.
[06:35] <Ademan_sleep> sethk: huh, i was just looking to play around with it lol, its pretty interesting to me
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, keep your windows drive just for games, and the few taskt you cant find a good replacement for in linux. then the problem is gone
[06:35] <Lattyware> Took me ages to set up mine :P
[06:35] <tsoler> but if i copy to ext i would not be able to read from windows
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> *tasks
[06:36] <Ademan_sleep> tsoler: you might try looking into WINE
[06:36] <sethk> Ademan_sleep, I meant no tools to speak of, except a few for drawing diagrams.
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you can still using special drivers, but why would you need to?
[06:36] <anon32> took me ages to get my winmodem working... it'll take me another age to upgrade to edgy
[06:36] <Ademan_sleep> sethk: yeah, kinda dissapointing
[06:36] <tsoler> whts the wine?
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> !wine
[06:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:37] <Ademan_sleep> tsoler: lets you run windows programs on linux
[06:37] <anon32> tsoler, FAT32
[06:37] <starsky_hutchy> tsoler, there are programs to read ext2/3 from windows.
[06:37] <anon32> and Wine Is Not an Emulator > ##wine
[06:37] <anon32> oops, it's #winehq
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, thats still irrelevant to the problem imo... its just a way or running some windows programs in linux
[06:37] <Justi1> thank you for your help lettyware, i am going to get ubuntu installed on my HD then i will try to get this thing working, thanks agian
[06:37] <Lattyware> Could someone help with my two problems?: 1) My sound card works only sometimes, it fails to work until reboot at other times. 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot (Static IP)
[06:38] <Lattyware> Justi1: Not at all, I have been in exactly the same postion :P
[06:38] <Ademan_sleep> tsoler: check http://www.winehq.com in the AppDB to see if your programs/games work with wine, I run counter strike source, half life 2, and counter strike, with wine at full speeds on my computer
[06:38] <tsoler> ok ill check this out
[06:38] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: You behind a router?
[06:38] <tsoler> but i need gis
[06:38] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, you can't run any elf format in windows, unless you have some kind of emulator.
[06:38] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: Yes.
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: If the router IP in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:39] <anon32> I've been less than impressed with WINE, config is a pain and it randomly crashes
[06:39] <anon32> Lattyware, does your router use DHCP? if it does, turn that off
[06:39] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, please explain :)
[06:39] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: How do you mean?
[06:39] <Lattyware> anon32: No, it doesn't.
[06:39] <alek> hi, i forgot, how to add/remove program from "autostart"
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[06:40] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, what do you mean by 'elf format'?
[06:40] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, what's there to explain ? window's files are coff format, elfs are Gnu/Linux specific. serioulsy this you should know as Linux user ? I am surprised.
[06:40] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: It's blank.
[06:40] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: Ahh, ok, not that same problem I had, then.
[06:40] <dijungal> question: when a drive is mounted it shows up on my desktop... how do i prevent it from showing up on my desktop.... i'll look for it in computer or places... i don't want it on my desktop
[06:40] <shylock> hi how do i start the program that makes x11.conf files?
[06:40] <shylock> the one with blue backround
[06:41] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, i dont think you are speaking of the same things i am. copying music from a windows drive to a linux one is no problem. niether is using those files ;)
[06:41] <anon32> Lattyware, have you actually set up your dynamic IP and etc?
[06:41] <nolimitsoya> what else have i suggested?
[06:41] <alek> how to add/remove program from ubuntu "autostart" ?
[06:41] <anon32> dijungal, change the mount point in /etc/fstab to somewhere other than /media
[06:41] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, ok. we are in different angular plane here. I won't bother you. help your mate. :) sorry abt the intrusion.
[06:41] <dijungal> hmm.... i like the media idea
[06:42] <nemoo> alek if you use  gnome try gnome-sesstion-properties
[06:42] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, no, please explain what you thought i ment. im always happy to learn if there is something im missing :)
[06:42] <alek> nemoo: no, im not using any GUI
[06:42] <dijungal> is there another way..?
[06:43] <Lattyware> anon32: I have a static IP.
[06:43] <Lattyware> I did say that.
[06:43] <savje> hi! I have a problem, I just installed Ubunut on my laptop, a couple days ago, and I've notice that the computer 'locks' or hang-up and nothing is responding except when I press "space" and then the computer goes back to normal but to the state it was when it locked... So if the computer locks at 15:00 and I press "space" at 16:00 the computer clock still is 15:00... Is this a well known problem and do anyone know how to solve it?
[06:44] <nemoo> alek: so update-rc.d
[06:44] <anon32> alek, to change startup programs go to preferences > sessions
[06:44] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, where you takling about executables?
[06:44] <anon32> help! how do I disable daemons (i.e. that annoying bt daemon)
[06:45] <Chief> hey guys, i have a question: can I use Wireshark without root-privilegs?
[06:45] <anon32> starsky_hutchy, that's only somewhat true, cygwin can rebuild linux apps to run on windows
[06:45] <anon32> Chief, depends on your network device's permissions
[06:45] <anon32> usually, no
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> ... and wine gives windows executables the environment they need...
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> *-n
[06:46] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, elf are executable and linkable format, sort of output from gcc -o. Windows coff are portable executable format, that are produced by their native compiler, their c++ compiler (vcc?). now to run in multiple arch, you either need 1) a way to translate the different formats into the same low-level format. Yes, cygwin is gcc environment emulator on windows.
[06:46] <Chief> how can i change the network privilegs?
[06:46] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, yes, this i perfectly understood. just not what we where talking about. thank you for clarifying :)
[06:47] <anon32> Chief, no diea
[06:47] <Chief> can i just say: chown -R username /dev/eth0 ?
[06:47] <anon32> idea*
[06:47] <anon32> Chief, um, do you have a /dev/eth0?
[06:48] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, don't worry. my assumption was bad. I misread your post. :)
[06:48] <tsoler> nolie , anon i think the best idea is starting to mount ext in windows ??
[06:48] <anon32> Chief, and I suppose you could, but it'd revert to root's ownership every restart
[06:48] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: It's blank.
[06:48] <Lattyware> whoops
[06:48] <Chief> shit
[06:48] <anon32> tsoler, probably
[06:49] <Lattyware> Could someone help with my two problems?: 1) My sound card works only sometimes, it fails to work until reboot at other times. 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot (Static IP)
[06:49] <fni> guys, when following instructions for linux, what OS is the most similar? Red Hat or Debian?
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you need file access cross the systems, yes, but you dont want that. you want to avoid that need as much as you possibly can
[06:49] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, you file command ? use that to know your magic file type. also man file and I think /etc/magic.
[06:49] <tsoler> if it goes well i can format my files with ext and use them both way?
[06:49] <Chief> I don't have a /dev/eth0 anyway
[06:49] <anon32> fni, debian
[06:49] <Music_Shuffle> fni: seems like Debian moreso >.>
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you cant format a partition and keep you data
[06:50] <tsoler> noli this is a workstation i cant make transition so easily
[06:50] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, copy all work that can be done in linux to you linux partition
[06:50] <anon32> tsoler, yes (ext2 though, ext3 has issues with Windows)
[06:50] <rbil> Chief, you using wireless?
[06:50] <dfgas_> how do i forcefully remove something?
[06:50] <nolimitsoya> anon32, acctualy, etx3 is read and written to perfectly, just without journaling
[06:50] <anon32> XFS 4 the win! (jk)
[06:51] <Chief> both wired and wireless
[06:51] <fni> anon32, thanks
[06:51] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what transitions cant you make?
[06:51] <anon32> dfgas_, from what?
[06:51] <rbil> Chief, can't understand how you don't have eth0
[06:51] <anon32> nolimitsoya, therefore, it's no different from ext2?
[06:51] <tsoler> i want to be able to work with gis
[06:51] <sventek> there is a new RC system in edgy right? What is the right way to add/remove programs from the beeing started?
[06:51] <[Daniel] > Aahh, it's so nice to be running Linux again. :-)
[06:51] <anon32> Chief, do you have /dev/eth?
[06:51] <Chief> in /dev/ is no eth0 and eth1
[06:51] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes it is, when using the sam efilsystem from linux ;)
[06:52] <anon32> nolimitsoya, most likely, MS Office
[06:52] <anon32> or Adobe Photoshop
[06:52] <tsoler> 100 gb of data are in my ntfs disk
[06:52] <jbmigel> welcome back to the land of the open [Daniel] 
[06:52] <[Daniel] > Anyone know how to change Edgy to store the BIOS clock in local time rather than UTC?
[06:52] <dfgas_> anon32, dpkg
[06:52] <nexact> hey all, id like to know how I can install php-cli ?
[06:52] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, and what part of that data cant you use on you linux system?
[06:52] <[Daniel] > jbmigel> Thanks! It's been many many years, but finally I can breathe again. :-)
[06:52] <Chief> no i have no /dev/eth
[06:52] <Chief> but network works
[06:52] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, or are you saying you dont have the hdd space?
[06:52] <anon32> dfgas, dpkg -fr I think
[06:52] <tsoler> yes
[06:52] <POVaddct> network interfaces have no device nodes in /dev, that's normal
[06:53] <Chief> k
[06:53] <nolimitsoya> anon32, msoffice has a compatible equvalent, and photoshop can be run using wine if th gimp isnt enough
[06:53] <anon32> dfgas, oh wait, it's just dpkg -r
[06:53] <tsoler> my linux installation is on 10 gb disk
[06:53] <nolimitsoya> (so can office, btw)
[06:53] <Chief> so how can i change netwok privilegs then?
[06:53] <anon32> POVaddct, where are they then?
[06:53] <anon32> nolimitsoya, MS Office has NO equivalent
[06:53] <anon32> and Photoshop 9 runs with issues in WINE
[06:54] <Lynoure> anon32: What's missing from OpenOffice?
[06:54] <anon32> and btw, Office 2003/2007 does NOT run in WINE
[06:54] <POVaddct> anon32: the aren't
[06:54] <nolimitsoya> anon32, openoffice is format compatible. from there you can export to odf, of whatever you like
[06:54] <anon32> Chief, what's wrong with just running Ethereal/Wireshark as root?
[06:54] <POVaddct> anon32: network interfaces can only be seen with ifconfig and ip
[06:54] <Lattyware> The only thing missing is a 'Publisher' like app.
[06:54] <anon32> Lynoure, um.... that's like comparing MS Paint and Photoshop
[06:54] <POVaddct> anon32: ifconfig -a, ip a
[06:55] <anon32> OO.o is nice, but if you just look at the two side by side....
[06:55] <davvs> is there any way, in a bash script, to get a string of all arguments?
[06:55] <Lattyware> anon32: What features are missing from OO.o compared to MSO
[06:55] <Lattyware> ?
[06:55] <anon32> POVaddct, :-(
[06:55] <brainiac> does anyone know a systemwide equalizer fr alsa?
[06:55] <rbil> Lattyware, no dancing paper clip?
[06:55] <Lattyware> lol
[06:55] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you want to transition, make a backup to another compyter/to dvdrw, format the ntfs partition, make a smaller one, copy your windows only work to that, and make a linux partition for the rest
[06:55] <Chief> anon32: it'smore comfortable without root privilegs
[06:56] <anon32> Lattyware, let's see... grammar check, MSO has way more templates, clippy (jk), vb script, etc etc etc
[06:56] <nolimitsoya> *remove the ntfs partiotion
[06:56] <Lynoure> anon32: if you cannot be bothered to list them all, top 5 would be nice
[06:56] <Music_Shuffle> But some of us don't use all the functions of office. Especially grammar check...which is wrong what, half the time? =/
[06:56] <Lynoure> etc is hard to code in without further specs
[06:56] <anon32> Chief, not really, network devices are allocated to root for a good reason
[06:56] <Lattyware> rbil: Reminds me of that animated GIF where they have the paperclip in VIM :P
[06:56] <tsoler> nolie you said that i can format the partition on ext3 without loosing data????
[06:56] <anon32> Lynoure, patience, I have +22 sec lag
[06:57] <Chief> anon32: k, thx
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no thats the opposite of what i said ;)
[06:57] <marshall__> are there any web developers in here? ive got a bit of trouble with one of my pages :S
[06:57] <tsoler> so i can format ntfs to ext3 without loosing my data???
[06:57] <Lattyware> anon32: The grammar check failed miserably, who needs templates? vbscript isn't so major really...
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> no, you cant
[06:57] <[Daniel] > davvs> "$*"
[06:57] <Lynoure> anon32: hardly any lag to me :)
[06:57] <Lattyware> marshall__: Sure, what's the problem?
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> you cant format a filesystem without loosing data
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> tsoler: Equate "format partition" with "losing every 1 and 0 stored on the partition".
[06:58] <davvs> thanks [Daniel] 
[06:58] <[Daniel] > np :)
[06:58] <Lattyware> Formating by it's very definition means to wipe.
[06:58] <Solarion> can we get some love on bug #60544, please?
[06:58] <anon32> Lattyware, and if you just compare in speed (MS Office does *NOT* use java)
[06:58] <[Daniel] > davvs> Check "man bash" and search for "Special Parameters" for more info.
[06:58] <anon32> Lynoure, and freenode masks your lag
[06:58] <tsoler> nolie:???? how??
[06:58] <nolimitsoya> 18:56:20 <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you want to transition, make a backup to another compyter/to dvdrw, remove the ntfs partition, make a smaller one, copy your windows only work to that, and make a linux partition for the rest
[06:59] <Lattyware> anon32: For me, they run at the same speed, as under linux, the rest of my system isn't 10x as slow.
[06:59] <davvs> [Daniel] > ok, yes i will :-)
[06:59] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you _can not_ move from ntfs to ext/whatever without loosing all the data!
[06:59] <tsoler> ok!!!
[06:59] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya: Unless you copy the data to an external device, and then copy it back.
[06:59] <iS`theoN> is it ok to ask a question in this channel or do I have to go to some kind of help channel?
[06:59] <[Daniel] > So storing BIOS clock in local time, anyone know how to do that in Edgy?
[06:59] <nolimitsoya> Lattyware, that is loosing data, only having backup ;)
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> iS`theoN, isn't that a question? :P
[06:59] <tsoler> ext3 has problems on reading from windows??
[06:59] <iS`theoN> :P
[06:59] <nolimitsoya> and that process i have explained two times now...
[06:59] <anon32> Lattyware, you're blinded by zealousy... ask any professional why he doesn't use OO.o
[06:59] <xipietotec> okay...I completely uninstalled kdm...but I still have the kubuntu logo on grub?
[07:00] <marshall__> Lattyware, ive got a web page organized with graphics in a table but i want a certain graphic to be in the background of the cell, i have given the cell the 'width' attribute but when i remove the image that was in it and put it into its background, the cell collapses
[07:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ext3 can be read and written to from windows, but without journaling, and with questionable integrity control
[07:00] <anon32> tsoler, there are no issues with reading, only writing to ext3 with journal
[07:00] <iS`theoN> well I have problems with my ATI graphics card ( x850xt pe ) on ubuntu, when I try to configure it, my screen blanks out
[07:00] <iS`theoN> I read the forums but nothing really helped
[07:01] <Lattyware> marshall__: Use CSS to define the width of the cell, and to set the background image.
[07:01] <Lattyware> That should work.
[07:01] <tsoler> ok the first think is to mount from windows the ext3 partition and see how is it going?
[07:01] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, as said many times, try to separate the two systems as much as you can, leaning tasks that are alike towards one os
[07:01] <Lattyware> I don't think width attributes are actually valid anymore.
[07:01] <xipietotec> anyone have a clue how I can get the old ubuntu logo back on the grub screen? I think it may still be trying to open up kdm on boot...which is no longer there
[07:01] <marshall__> Lattyware, !! lol i didnt know i could set the width of a cell in css! whats the css attribute?
[07:02] <Lattyware> .class { width: Ypx; }
[07:02] <tsoler> nolie this can not be done right now
[07:02] <marshall__> yes!
[07:02] <Lattyware> #id { etc... }
[07:02] <marshall__> thank you!!
[07:02] <marshall__> XD
[07:02] <Lattyware> been so long since I have used a table for anything with a table :P
[07:02] <marshall__> lol
[07:02] <Lattyware> heh.
[07:02] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then dont do anything untill you can :)
[07:02] <Lattyware> not at all.
[07:02] <marshall__> lol yeah i hear divs are the way to go
[07:02] <Lattyware> I use XHTML 1.0 Strict and CSS 100% of the time now a-days.
[07:02] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, pouring a lot of work into a bad sollution is just not a good thing to do
[07:03] <marshall__> Lattyware, do you ever have compatability issues?
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> It DOES make a bad idea more tolerable though. But still not as good as a good idea.
[07:03] <anon32> tsoler, no matter how much you bitch to us, our answer's not gonna change
[07:03] <Lattyware> marshall__: IE is the only thing that doesn't like it. You just have to add a few hacks here and there.
[07:03] <tsoler> im trying to figure out guys
[07:03] <xipietotec> anyone? I think grub is trying to load kdm (which is no longer existant on this computer) and also XGL still shows up as a session option despite the fact it's also no longer there
[07:04] <iS`theoN> hello I really need some help with ubuntu here :(
[07:04] <nolimitsoya> what are you trying to figure out?
[07:04] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: I have spent some hours getting an ATI card to work under a laptop running Debian, the inofficial ATI side helped me a lot to figure a bug: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[07:04] <anon32> Lattyware, why bother with the hacks, if people want to use a crappy browser, let it render crappily too
[07:04] <Lattyware> marshall__: http://www.lattyware.co.uk/ <- take a look at the code behind that.
[07:04] <marshall__> Lattyware, lol ie is web developer for dogshit
[07:04] <tsoler> what to do next
[07:04] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: you might wanna look through there to figure your combination of kernel/ATI driver version/etc
[07:04] <Zaggynl> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281569
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> There's a program to update GRUB...somewhere.
[07:04] <anon32> xipietotec, go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <dek> anyone got WMV videos streaming to work in Opera? They work in Konqueror with Xine plug-in
[07:04] <Lattyware> lol, yeah, I put big warning messages to IE users.
[07:04] <gh0st> hello, can i safely remove rhythmbox?
[07:05] <nolimitsoya> ok, here is the breakdown: ntfs can be read and written to with great drawbacks on linux, ext3 can be read and written to with  great drabacks from windows=dont read and write cross the two at all if you can help it
[07:05] <anon32> gh0st, yes, but you'll just have to install it again when you want to upgrade ubuntu
[07:05] <[Daniel] > Gosh, Ubuntu really is very very good.
[07:05] <boink> Music_Shuffle: man update-grub
[07:05] <[Daniel] > It's hard to believe it's a Linux distro :)
[07:05] <Lattyware> marshall__: I used to put everything behind a database, but you wouldn't belive how annoying it is to get code from a DB to be nice and valid.
[07:05] <marshall__> Lattyware, lol, how come you link the stylesheet that way?
[07:05] <gh0st> anon32: you mean dist-upgrade?
[07:05] <Music_Shuffle> boink, sooner or later I'm going to start remembering these names! >.<
[07:05] <anon32> [Daniel] , really? I find the dist-upgrade system VERY annoying (no incremental upgrades...)
[07:06] <Lattyware> marshall__: Just habit really, I don't think it makes any difference.
[07:06] <anon32> gh0st, yea
[07:06] <marshall__> Lattyware, you mean with the xhtml validator?
[07:06] <gh0st> anon32: i have my files and home folder on a separate partition; is it better to make a clean install?
[07:06] <Lynoure> Anyway, if there is something to ask for, makes sense to ask for it, somewhere. Otherwise OO will not evolve to that direction, because no one seems to miss a feature no one asked for
[07:06] <marshall__> Lattyware, ok
[07:06] <[Daniel] > anon32> I'm mainly thinking compared to Windows :)
[07:06] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that means, get yourself the facilities to do a full backup of all your data, and slipp the data in task you can accoplish in linux, and tasks you cant. then make partitions for that data, for the right operating system
[07:06] <nolimitsoya> *splitt
[07:07] <Lattyware> marshall__: I use PHP alot though, just writing some small backend stuff makes updating aload easier,
[07:07] <anon32> question: if my graphics card is too slow to render quickly, is there a way to make my CPU compensate with software rendering?
[07:07] <Lattyware> Even if it is just basically including a few files.
[07:07] <iS`theoN> cosmodad I even can't run the live cd properly
[07:07] <nolimitsoya> anon32, you can do either, but not at the same time
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> Oh really?
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> Him asking that made me get excited for a second.
[07:07] <nolimitsoya> btw, software rendering is painfully slow
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> Heh
[07:07] <iS`theoN> when i try to run it, my screen blanks out
[07:07] <Lattyware> In fact, now-a-days, Python annoys me as I cannot split my code across multiple files.
[07:07] <anon32> [Daniel] , dunno, the only problem I've ever had with Windows is explorer.exe and the same upgrade issue
[07:07] <marshall__> Lattyware, ive been learning some php
[07:07] <anon32> nolimitsoya, :-(
[07:08] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: then you'll need to do some shell work
[07:08] <anon32> but parallele processing is so cool...
[07:08] <Music_Shuffle> is, you can't run the LiveCD at all?
[07:08] <[Daniel] > anon32 :)
[07:08] <marshall__> Lattyware, can i add you to msn or some other im?
[07:08] <Lattyware> marshall__: sure, I'll pm you.
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> anon32, get a sli/crossfire system then ;)
[07:08] <marshall__> ok
[07:08] <anon32> nolimitsoya, actually, you can get decent results with good rendering engines, and they're integrating graphics instructions into CPUs now
[07:08] <anon32> nolimitsoya, that costs more than an entire machine
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> anon32, then its emulation, is it ;)
[07:09] <Music_Shuffle> A good point.
[07:09] <nolimitsoya> *isnt
[07:09] <iS`theoN> cosmodad i'm sorry, but i'm quite new to linux, I already tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:09] <xipietotec> I don't see anything in menu.list that I have any idea what to do with, how can I get the kubuntu splash screen at grub to go away?
[07:09] <Lynoure> Nice swearing, anon32. You know you can ignore ctcps if two is enough to get you that upset
[07:09] <Yourname> Anything special I need to do to logon to a WPA2 network, when I have nm, (and have drviers installed with ndiswrapper) wpa_supplicant, linux-wlan-ng installed? Also, I installed everything and network-manager showed me wireless networks, but since I updated the kernel, now it's gone after reboot.. what could've have happened?
[07:09] <iS`theoN> then chose the vesa driver
[07:09] <Ademan_sleep> does ANYONE still use XFree86?
[07:09] <Music_Shuffle> Pick a different splash screen? >.>
[07:09] <hondje> Ademan_sleep: Yes
[07:09] <Ademan_sleep> hondje: who?
[07:10] <anon32> mm, pretty soon, graphics cards will be obsolete, just like sound cards
[07:10] <Chief> Does anyone have a  Intel GM855 Graphic Card?
[07:10] <Ademan_sleep> distro wise?
[07:10] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: if I had time, I'd try going through this with you step-by-step. Sadly, I have to go. Use the web page as a hint or try looking somewhere else
[07:10] <Lattyware> I want a new PC
[07:10] <anon32> Chief, lol? that's not even a graphics card
[07:10] <Lattyware> Semperon 1.6GHz. :'(
[07:10] <hondje> Ademan_sleep: Linux distrowise? I can't think of any linux distros that use it still
[07:10] <Music_Shuffle> Hah. ./Raises hand for a new PC. Me 2!
[07:10] <nolimitsoya> anon32, soundcards have never gone obsolete. neither will graphics cards. its always usefull to have many different processors, as longs as you can only bake a limited ammount of processing power into one chip :)
[07:11] <Ademan_sleep> hondje: BSD's use it then?
[07:11] <devout> any idea on what i can do to get "make [x|g|menu] config"
[07:11] <devout>              working on ubuntu?
[07:11] <devout> 6.06
[07:11] <anon32> nolimitsoya, sound cards are obsolete.... when's the last time you saw one outside of a gaming rig?
[07:11] <Lattyware> Could someone help with my two problems?: 1) My sound card works only sometimes, it fails to work until reboot at other times. 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot (Static IP)
[07:11] <Ademan_sleep> devout: why are you building something from source?
[07:11] <hondje> Ademan_sleep: NetBSD does, FBSD has it as an option ... and I think Sarge might use it
[07:12] <Lattyware> anon32: I have one.
[07:12] <anon32> devout, why 3 lines?
[07:12] <fni> guys i'm trying to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 but i cant find it in the apt cache. any ideas?
[07:12] <gh0st> has anyone here *not* installed any KDE app nor amarok?
[07:12] <hondje> yeah, sarge has it, how funny :)
[07:12] <tsoler> ok nolie as i figure out it will cost me a hard drive of 100 gb just to start experimenting if if can or i f i cannot use ubuntu for my work
[07:12] <Music_Shuffle> Question: KDE or Gnome? I just discovered how to make Gnome less annoying...which makes it now a problem.
[07:12] <lostboyz> could someone please help me i have a webcam that works under the spca5xx driver but i am not able to send, only to see my picture on the computer. whenever i try to send with kopete or amsn it does not work
[07:12] <monitordawg> is there a pdf viewer included on the ubuntu 64 bit os?
[07:12] <Ademan_sleep> ew, i thought there was a whole anti-XFree86 uprising
[07:12] <anon32> Lattyware, and it didn't come with your PC did it?
[07:12] <Lattyware> anon32: no.
[07:12] <devout> Ademan_sleep: so i can get sound working, which it doesnt out of the box, and so i can hack the src
[07:12] <St_MPA3b> 10 Ubuntu CDs (10 PC Edition) are 10 equal CDs?
[07:12] <Chief> anon32: It is a oboard Graphic Card
[07:12] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no itll just cost you a few dvdrw:s that you can use for backup later. you should always have a backuo sollution anyway
[07:13] <anon32> gh0st, very few of us, KDE is better than GNOME
[07:13] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, or you could borrow the space from someone else
[07:13] <Ademan_sleep> devout: what happens when you try and execute that command?
[07:13] <gh0st> if so could you tell me WHICH packages it wants to install when you want to install amarok? (i do want to remove them all)
[07:13] <gh0st> anon32: that's your opinion
[07:13] <devout> Ademan_sleep: make[1] : *** No rule to make target `scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck', needed by `scripts/kconfig/qcon
[07:14] <Ademan_sleep> ah
[07:14] <anon32> Lattyware, but the thing is, most CPUs can decode sound as fast as a dedicated sound card
[07:14] <xipietotec> oh this is reaaalllll fun...I've got a bunch of library files and such in "local or obsolete" and if I want to remove them...I'll remove allmost all of my other files
[07:14] <anon32> gh0st, no... for anyone with experience using a computer, KDE is superior becuase it presents more customizable options
[07:14] <devout> Unable to find gtk, qt or for menuconfig just the checklist.o error
[07:14] <anon32> devout, what are you doing?
[07:15] <gh0st> anyway: if DIDN'T INSTALL KDE nor AMAROK: could you tell me WHICH packages it wants to install when you want to install amarok? (i do want to remove them all)
[07:15] <devout> wanting to be able to config and compile the kernel so i can set up sound (which isnt working out of the box), and learn to hack kernel src
[07:15] <anon32> gh0st, go to amarok and read the dependencies
[07:15] <Lattyware> I think KDE is ugly.
[07:15] <Lattyware> No matter how you customise it
[07:15] <anon32> uninstall all the ones that don't break other apps
[07:15] <Ademan_sleep> gh0st: if you install through apt-get it will automatically get all of the dependancies for you
[07:16] <Arcad3> ur right lattyware
[07:16] <anon32> devout, #linux is better for that
[07:16] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Can anyone help me out with the syntax to restart the system at command prompt. 'sudo restart -h' doesn't work in ubuntu.
[07:16] <andresmujica> which is the best howto to follow for xgl/compiz at my laptop?
[07:16] <devout> aight
[07:16] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, edgy keeps track of what dependencies arnt usefull anymore when you uninstall something, automaticaly
[07:16] <Ademan_sleep> gh0st: oh wait, sorry, i read that wrong
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> Ademan_sleep, I think he wants to REMOVE it.
[07:16] <Ademan_sleep> yeah :-)
[07:16] <iamtheobject> well I edited my mouse in the xorg.conf but all the buttons are in the wrong place now haha
[07:16] <anon32> Lattyware, I find GNOME ugly, it's a matter of taste
[07:16] <ianmacgregor> baxter_kylie: sudo shutdown -r now
[07:16] <Arcad3> try reboot Baxter
[07:16] <nolimitsoya> sudo poweroff also works :)
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> gh0st, try this?
[07:16] <ianmacgregor> baxter_kylie: man shutdown
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Requirements
[07:17] <Yourname> sudo mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD eth0 -> How can I set that permanently?
[07:17] <anon32> nolimitsoya, really? that alone is enough reason for me to upgrade to edgy...
[07:17] <Ademan_sleep> kde is crap, but Qt is great, and Gtk+ sucks yet GNOME rules lol
[07:17] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes edgy is a great step forward in every respect :)
[07:17] <anon32> Yourname, add it to a boot script?
[07:17] <gh0st> nolimitsoya: yeah, but i use dapper and apt-get
[07:17] <Yourname> anon32: So, that command.. it's temporary, right?
[07:17] <anon32> Ademan_sleep, what makes KDE crap?
[07:18] <Arcad3> how i upgrade to edgy
[07:18] <Arcad3> ?
[07:18] <anon32> nolimitsoya, except that it still won't allow for f-ing incremental upgrades
[07:18] <tyler_d> I have made the mistake of removing my home directory off of ubuntu(was on a different partition) now I need to put it on the same partition as the OS. anyone know the commands to do so?
[07:18] <ianmacgregor> Take the KDE complaints to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[07:18] <baxter_kylie> Thanks all.
[07:18] <Ademan_sleep> anon32: opinion :-), KDE feels like an information overload to me
[07:18] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, yes, i just thought id let you know, in case you might get inspired to upgrade :)
[07:18] <tsoler> nolie can i make a copy paste from ntfs to ext3 - just very few experimental files- to see if i a can work from ubuntu??
[07:18] <Nem1> My logitech mouse has some special buttons that can,t work on Ubuntu.Is there any driver i can install??
[07:18] <Ademan_sleep> noooooo ianmacgregor
[07:18] <anon32> Yourname, I don't know, the way you said it, it made me assume it was
[07:18] <anon32> !edgy > Arcad3
[07:18] <gh0st> nolimitsoya: i'm waiting for final ;-)
[07:18] <nolimitsoya> anon32, if you want that you are in the wrong irc channel, using the wrong dist
[07:18] <Arcad3> !edgy
[07:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:18] <Arcad3> !schedule
[07:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:19] <anon32> tyler_d, um, cp (profile) /home ?
[07:19] <dek> anyone got WMV videos streaming to work in Opera? They work in Konqueror with Xine plug-in
[07:19] <Samuli^> Neml, try a searching with your mousetype on the www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:19] <tyler_d> anon32: cannot cp... profile is gone right
[07:19] <anon32> nolimitsoya, bah..
[07:19] <anon32> when you have to spend 3 weeks to download a new version, that's a major disincentiuve
[07:19] <togga> hi all. i've upgraded dapper->edgy and the new Nautilus does no longer show files in the list-view, only icon-view. Is this something known?
[07:19] <tyler_d> anon32: need to re-create in the a different location
[07:20] <tyler_d> anon32: in the process of recovering the old one... just want it to work now!!
[07:20] <Samuli^> Nem1, try searching with your mousetype on www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:20] <Music_Shuffle> Question: If I have gaim/kopete open on two different sessions of KDE/Gnome or any combination thereof, how will my received messages be displayed?
[07:20] <anon32> tyler_d, forget it, just make a new user
[07:20] <tyler_d> anon32: commands?
[07:20] <nolimitsoya> anon32, no, im serious. thats part of the plan, to keep things stable. us you realy want bleedning edgy packages, you are using the wrong dist for the wrong reasons. incremental updates where never part of the plan, and will never be implemented.
[07:20] <anon32> tyler_d, adduser (username)
[07:20] <tyler_d> anon32: ty mang..
[07:21] <imperfect-> Anyone know where I can get a vmlinuz and initrd of 2.6.8.1 to try to fix my edgy install so it will work on my box?
[07:22] <togga> imperfect-: www.kernel.org
[07:22] <anon32> nolimitsoya, but see, the point of an upgrade that takes so long to perform that a new version becomes available is lost on me
[07:22] <imperfect-> imperfect- : for precompiled stuff?
[07:22] <Warbo> togga: Those don't have Ubuntu patches, etc. applied
[07:22] <nolimitsoya> anon32, then you are, again, using the wrong dist. try another one that is more to your liking :)
[07:22] <imperfect-> Warbo: i dont need the patchs.. I'm using a rescue cd int he hopes of getting lilo installed since grub is all broke with mine
[07:23] <anon32> Warbo, well... that's too bad isn't it?
[07:23] <Warbo> as far as I know the initrd is created when the package linux-image-version is installed, so merely downloading the package file would only give vmlinuz
[07:23] <anon32> nolimitsoya, meh....
[07:23] <anon32> I only use ubuntu because it's free (in price)
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> anon32, so is gentoo ;)
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> seriously, you shouldnt use a distro that doesnt satisfy your desires...
[07:24] <anon32> nolimitsoya, no it isn't... bandwidth costs money, a lot of it
[07:24] <Rookie_> !icop
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> anon32, just as much as an upgrade to edgy :)
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> !pcop
[07:24] <togga> Warbo: i know. but it's going to be hard anyway to create an 2.6.8.1 edgy kernel. probably harder if he wants the patches. maybe an inotify patch for 2.6.8.1 should do it..
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> !ipcop
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <KenSentMe> !info ipcop
[07:24] <ubotu> Package ipcop does not exist in any distro I know
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> www.ipcop.org
[07:25] <anon32> lo
[07:25] <anon32> Warbo, yes... and Win2000 was supported until earlier this year... doesn't mean it was useful until then
[07:26] <rbil> anon32, what's wrong with W2K? I use it exclusively in a vm under Ubuntu for the odd Windoze crap I need to run
[07:26] <Warbo> anon32: 1) Win2000 doesn't have anything to do with it because it is not free and Microsoft will not send you a copy, 2) use a different distro then. RHEL has a really long release cycle
[07:27] <anon32> rbil, sorry, bad comparison, replace with Win98
[07:27] <black_13> which release of ubuntu would have a gcc3 and xorg?
[07:27] <XVampireX> !build
[07:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:27] <junky> if ive 2 sounds cards, how can i change which card will be used, without having to reboot? cause now, ive to run alsaconf, then to reboot, id like to avoid that step.
[07:27] <rbil> junky, should be able to select in amixer
[07:27] <Warbo> black_13: All of them I think. Install the package "gcc-3.4" to get GCC 3.x and xorg is "xserver-xorg"
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> anon32, seriously, again, the gentoo minimal install is like 100mb, and a full install would probably be alot smaller a downloadnthan an upgrade to edgy, which still is an operating system you arent satified with :)
[07:28] <gh0st> if you DIDN'T INSTALL KDE nor AMAROK: could you tell me WHICH packages it wants to install when you want to install amarok? (i do want to remove them all) (ON SYNAPTIC)
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> Anyone...KDE user?
[07:28] <black_13> i have to have gcc-3 compiler for the project i working with
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> How do I setup programs to start on login with KDE?
[07:28] <Warbo> junky: You shouldn't need to reboot. Try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" (or whatever the ALSA startup script is called) instead of rebooting
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, mark in, press install, and it will tell you
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> For Gnome its just..preferences --> Sessions and the option is under there. Where's it in KDE?
[07:29] <black_13> Warboi want to have xorg for easier configuration of the touch screen im using
[07:29] <anon32> Warbo, only pointing out the flaw in your "but it'll have lots of support"
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, if you dont want to install those, just dont press apply, thats all :)
[07:29] <gh0st> nolimitsoya: problem is i want to REMOVE it with ALL DEPENDENCIES
[07:29] <MikeyMike>  quick question..... if you ping your lan ip (192.168.1.x) and disconnect yourself from the router will the connection stop or will it continue like loopback (internally pinged)
[07:29] <anon32> gh0st, we already told you, go into synaptic, read the dependencies, and remove as many as you can
[07:29] <Dekkard> are the mplayer plugin/totem plugins broken?
[07:29] <Warbo> black_13: as in GCC 3.0, or 3.anything?
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, then you have been instructed already :)
[07:29] <gh0st> anon32: but i already installed it but i want to REMOVE everything kde related
[07:29] <black_13> Warbo 3.3.x would be for the best
[07:30] <gh0st> remove not install
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> So do it...
[07:30] <Hooveyy> morning 2 u all :p
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> Hai.
[07:30] <Warbo> gh0st: In the future try to use Aptitude, it remembers the dependencies
[07:30] <gh0st> Warbo: i know that's what i use now
[07:30] <Warbo> !info gcc-3.3
[07:30] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, read the dependecies, and remove them. what dont ju understand?
[07:30] <ubotu> gcc-3.3: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-10 (dapper), package size 535 kB, installed size 4264 kB
[07:30] <gh0st> but still i installed amarok 3 months ago
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> How to configure programs to start on login with KDE...anyone?
[07:30] <anon32> gh0st, DO NOT REPEAT YOUR QUESTION - read the dependencies, manually uninstall them all
[07:30] <black_13> Warbo i am provided with the kernel modules from a 3rd part hardware vendor
[07:31] <junky> rbil, warbo: even, if i run alsaconf, select my other card, run alsaconf restart, the output is still on the "old" card, not the new one.
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, kdm
[07:31] <Warbo> black_13: Looks like the package gcc-3.3 contains it. I'd use Dapper (6.06) if I were you. It uses Xorg, as do all releases I think
[07:31] <black_13> Warbo no provide with source
[07:31] <St_MPA3b> What's better for newb linuxoid - KDE or Gnom?
[07:31] <Music_Shuffle> KDM?
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, sry, dissregard that. i read your question wrong :P
[07:31] <anon32> gh0st, get this through your head - click on dependencies tab - search for each entry - select "remove"
[07:31] <black_13> Warbo isnt dapper the latest?
[07:31] <gh0st> anon32, nolimitsoya: are these ALL that were installed with amarok? if so, fine, and thanks
[07:31] <Warbo> junky: Where did you get alsaconf from? I didn't think that was included anymore
[07:31] <Hooveyy> Gnome is cooler than KDE :)
[07:31] <Music_Shuffle> Ok. Now that you re-read it...got any ideas? xD
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, yes
[07:32] <black_13> Hooveyy infidel!
[07:32] <Warbo> black_13: Well it is the most stable one. Edgy is still full of problems (from what I hear)
[07:32] <Hooveyy> XGL / Compiz is the hardest thing to get working
[07:32] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, isnt there a tool for it? there is in xfce
[07:32] <Hooveyy> It never freakin` works!
[07:32] <anon32> gh0st, if you don't trust apt, then don't use i
[07:32] <gh0st> but what if it breaks something
[07:32] <junky> warbo: it was from http://www.ubuntux.org/sound-card-not-detected
[07:32] <St_MPA3b> what Linux distrib is better for newb linuxoid ^_^? I'm not a total noob, but i know almost nothink bout Linux
[07:32] <Hooveyy> Apt wont break something ..
[07:32] <Music_Shuffle> I don't know, I found the one in Gnome...but I have no idea where in KDE.
[07:32] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, in settings, i have a post called autostarted applications
[07:32] <Hooveyy> Trust the cow, ghost!
[07:32] <Warbo> St_MPA3b: Welcome to Ubuntu :)
[07:32] <Hooveyy> It has super cow powers!
[07:32] <Artemis3> moo?
 Dling it right now ^_^
[07:32] <gh0st> anon32: it does not automatically mean that all depencies listed where installed WITH amarok, but perhaps before
[07:32] <Dekkard> hm
[07:33] <black_13> Warbo next qestion the componay i work with provides me a kernel for ther hardware its 2.6.10 derivative
[07:33] <Hooveyy> "apt-get moo
[07:33] <anon32> Warbo, if it's full of problems, why the hell is it labeled as a release candidate?
[07:33] <Hooveyy> "
[07:33] <nolimitsoya> St_MPA3b, mepis
[07:33] <anon32> St_MPA3b, get gentoo
[07:33] <Dekkard> is there an ubuntu-multimedia channel?
[07:33] <tabber> how do i change the symlink of one file so that it links to another file?
[07:33] <nolimitsoya> St_MPA3b, dissregardanon32, hes taking a piss
[07:33] <Warbo> anon32: If Dapper was released as a final, stable version then why is there 6.06.1?
[07:33] <black_13> i want to make sure that i have the right kernel headers for this kernel im conceredn about getting the kernel headers for 2.6.10
[07:33] <anon32> gh0st, go uninstall all the ones you can, those are the ones that amarok installed
[07:33] <gh0st> ok
[07:34] <anon32> when you find one that breaks stuff when removing, skip over it
[07:34] <anon32> Warbo, .1 is a security fix
[07:34] <Warbo> tabber: "ln -sf /path/to/real/file/you/want/to/point/to /path/to/link/you/want/to/change"
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> nolimitsoya, under settings in the KDE menu?!
[07:34] <Frantic`> Is there a console multiuser runlevel for ubuntu???
[07:34] <Warbo> anon32: exactlyt
[07:34] <ompaul> Warbo, because it gets updates - and will do for the next few years - LTS long term support
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> (and "small" 200mb buggfix)
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, no, xfce :)
[07:34] <junky> Warbo: how can i force the reload of /etc/modprobe.d/sound exactly? alsaconf restart isnt doing that?
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> i said i dont know about kde
[07:34] <ompaul> Frantic`, it does not work that way, it works like you install it you want to run it?
[07:34] <Warbo> ompaul: I know, I know. Just trying to calm anon32 down a bit
[07:34] <tabber> Warbo: thanks, i'll give it a try
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> nolimitsoya, ./Sigh. And here I thought I was going blind. xD
[07:34] <anon32> Warbo, I consider it final and stable if it doesn't crash
[07:35] <Frantic`> ompaul, i'm just trying to install my nvidia drivers
[07:35] <Frantic`> they won't install while x is running, or in single user mode
[07:35] <anon32> ompaul, what do the updates mean if they're just the same version with patches for bugs?
[07:35] <black_13> warbo what is the "alternate install cd" for?
[07:35] <Warbo> Frantic`: You can switch to a console with ctrl-alt-f1 then login and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to turn off X
[07:36] <Hooveyy> ..KDE is the devil ;(
[07:36] <Frantic`> ty Warbo
[07:36] <anon32> black_13, situations when you want a custom install
[07:36] <nolimitsoya> black_13, its a textbased installer for doing wicked things with lvm, and the like
[07:36] <lnx^> heya guys
[07:36] <anon32> i.e. automated, upgrade install, net install, etc
[07:36] <black_13> how custom is custom?
[07:36] <Warbo> black_13: That has a text based installer for those systems where the graphical live CD won't run (not enough RAM, etc.), and it also contains all of the packages needed to install, rather than downloading some. Also it's partitioner allows LVM and stuff to be used
[07:36] <leocoutinho1987> Somebody could help me with my modem connection in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:36] <lnx^> i've got a slight problem
[07:36] <lnx^> i just received an e-mail with an attachment
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> black_13, the desktop cd gives you _very_ basic options, not as to confuse newcommers
[07:37] <black_13> i see
[07:37] <lnx^> however, for some reason the attachment shows up as ASCII code at the end of the message instead of being a real 'attachment'
[07:37] <anon32> !modem > leocoutinho1987
[07:37] <lg> HI! I gotta install the pkg libxerces26-dev; have I simply to type 'sudo apt-get install libxerces26-dev
[07:37] <lg> ' ?
[07:37] <Warbo> lnx^: "my_picture.jpg.exe" should not be run :)
[07:37] <black_13> well i want gcc3 2.6.10 kernel headers and xorg
[07:37] <lnx^> Warbo: haha no it's not like that
[07:37] <black_13> thats pretty much it
[07:37] <Dekkard> lol
[07:37] <imperfect-> Is there a way to get the LIVECD look and feel from an alternate install?
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> black_13, that can be done post install
[07:37] <lnx^> it's just a normal .doc file from a friend of mine
[07:37] <black_13> i got you
[07:37] <Rookie_> !phpPasswordManager
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpPasswordManager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> imperfect-, what do you mean?
[07:38] <lnx^> i believe that the friend's e-mail client is broken or something
[07:38] <leocoutinho1987> hello annon
[07:38] <anon32> black_13, considered gentoo? with ubuntu, what you see is what you get
[07:38] <imperfect-> nolimitsoya: well when I install from alternate cd
[07:38] <anon32> imperfect-, no, use the live cd for that
[07:38] <madflax> Can anyone direct me to how to install newer alsa-drivers? thus on apt is 1.0.11 and they ain't cooking right!
[07:38] <lnx^> i see stuff like: Content-Type: application/msword; name="Returning World.doc"
[07:38] <Dekkard> oh gawd he said gentoo!
[07:38] <imperfect-> nolimitsoya: there's no splash screen, nothing works... etc
[07:38] <nolimitsoya> imperfect-, the alternate is textbased only
[07:38] <lnx^> and lines like: 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB
[07:38] <imperfect-> I get that
[07:38] <black_13> it has to have the debian package manager
[07:38] <Warbo> black_13: If it is a custom kernel then I would say get the full source installed rather than just the headers. That can be done manually from kernel.org or whatever if needed
[07:38] <lnx^> is there any way i could convert that back to a binary file?
[07:38] <nolimitsoya> imperfect-, then you didnt install the right packages :)
[07:38] <imperfect-> but grub doesnt support my hardware so I'm stuck bhaving to use the alternate to get a booting system
[07:38] <lnx^> i'm sure it's not a virus
[07:39] <black_13> Warbo unfortunatle the kernel is supplied by the hardware vendor
[07:39] <imperfect-> nolimitsoya: well it doesn't ask me for anything
[07:39] <lnx^> i tried just copypasting the stuff into a .doc file and running it but it (obviously) doesn't work
[07:39] <Warbo> black_13: That's not unfortunate, since it means you know exactly what kernel you should be using :) (as long as it has source for the kernel you are OK)
[07:39] <junky> how can i force the reload of /etc/modprobe.d/sound exactly? alsaconf restart isnt doing that?  cause i need to reboot, and id like to avoid taht step
[07:39] <Artemis3> ask vendor for ubuntu compile :)
[07:40] <aoupi> how do I make sure the module pcspkr isn't loaded on boot time? (or how do I permanently disable system beep?)
[07:40] <Warbo> aoupi: blacklist it
[07:40] <Warbo> !blacklist
[07:40] <ompaul> Frantic`,  read the howto on help.ubuntu.com just search for nvidia - it works
[07:40] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[07:40] <black_13> this is a motherboard for the gaming (gambling) industry and the people who make it spend lots of effort software devel but they dont let there customr have the source
[07:40] <aoupi> Warbo: thx
[07:40] <Music_Shuffle> nolimitsoya, I think I found a way. ^^
[07:40] <Bernardo> hi
[07:40] <black_13> Warbo the are try to protect there investment
[07:40] <krunchi1920> hi everybody, can anybody help me about lucent soft modem installation on ubuntu 6.06
[07:41] <Warbo> black_13: I mean the Linux kernel source which corresponds to the kernel they have supplied
[07:41] <lnx^> is anyone aware of a way of converting ASCII back to binary, if that's even possible?
[07:41] <Warbo> black_13: I don't mean their own drivers/software
[07:41] <Bernardo> anyone can help me with squid and edgy? I had it working in dapper
[07:41] <tsoler> nolie?
[07:41] <black_13> they provide a monolith kernel not all drivers
[07:41] <Warbo> black_13: Besides, if they don't then they are violating the GPL since giving you a Linux kernel without source is illegal
[07:41] <madflax> If i take gasoline on the drivers will that work? maybe some dynamite will do the tright after I ninja chopped it
[07:41] <tsoler> ubuntu just found a gis program
[07:42] <Artemis3> good point lets sue those gamblers
[07:42] <tsoler> ubuntu is based on debian or not?
[07:42] <ompaul> tsoler, it is to an extent
[07:42] <black_13> Warbo i dont want to get into a gpl war it would impede my paychecks
[07:42] <Artemis3> hahaha
[07:42] <ompaul> !namespam > Yourname
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about namespam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <Artemis3> just tell them to provide you an ubuntu compile already
[07:42] <Warbo> black_13: I was just saying that for Ubuntu kernels there is a corresponding "linux-headers" package, since not the entire source is needed to compile modules, but for custom kernels I would recommend installing it's full source
[07:42] <Ademan_sleep> is cmake any good?
[07:43] <madflax> comon ppl.. which driver to use.. alsa-base 1.0.12 or does even the 1.0.13 work in ubuntu?
[07:43] <tsoler> ompaul what do u mean?
[07:43] <black_13> i dont inted to customize the kernel just use theirs
[07:43] <karabatak> hi every body
[07:43] <Warbo> madflax: Generally any Linux software/driver will work in Ubuntu. the real question is "which would be easiest?"
[07:43] <ompaul> tsoler, exactly what I said, most of it comes from debian, then it has some bug fixing done then it is released
[07:44] <leocoutinho1987> my lucent modem in wvdial says "carrier detected, waiting for prompt" e don't connects... what I could do ?
[07:44] <Artemis3> binary drivers are the cause for lockups and vulnerabilities
[07:44] <leocoutinho1987> the howto don't cover this problem
[07:44] <Warbo> black_13: It doesn't matter that much really, just speaking from my experience
[07:44] <karabatak> who know callback configuration  for wvdial?
[07:44] <Artemis3> so this "protecting their invesment" is moot
[07:44] <savje> hi! I have a problem, I just installed Ubunut on my laptop, a couple days ago, and I've notice that the computer 'locks' or hang-up and nothing is responding except when I press "space" and then the computer goes back to normal but to the state it was when it locked... So if the computer locks at 15:00 and I press "space" at 16:00 the computer clock still is 15:00... Is this a well known problem and do anyone know how to solve it?
[07:44] <leocoutinho1987> me
[07:45] <karabatak> could you tell me
[07:45] <Lubix> hi
[07:45] <black_13> Warbo i understand why they dont provide the source this company does something that revolutionary they put something in kernel that most other places put in user space if it works my life will be much easier
[07:45] <madflax> Warbo, well the current doesn't detect my s-pdif.. or maybe im barking on the wrong tree. maybe I have to enable it somewhere, I don't have a clue myself.. hopfully someone here does.'
[07:45] <black_13> Warbo if there technology got out they would be ruined they are bout 6 guys
[07:45] <ompaul> black_13, are you in the middle of a non support conversation?
[07:45] <Artemis3> hmp, all gamblers say the same :p
[07:45] <willdev> help!
[07:45] <willdev> ive forgoton my password
[07:46] <ompaul> Artemis3, to whom are you talking?
[07:46] <black_13> ompaul sorry what?
[07:46] <Warbo> black_13: I am not concerned with the details really, I was just trying to offer a bit of advice because whenever I have tried to build stuff against a custom kernel I have always needed to install the source
[07:46] <madflax> But the chanses that anyone here now anything slim about alsa and spdif are very slim im afraid!
[07:46] <ompaul> black_13, this is not a discussion channel - you appear to be in conversation we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting about all sorts of stuff
[07:46] <Warbo> madflax: Is there a #alsa you could ask in?
[07:46] <black_13> sorry i got off subject thank for the help
[07:47] <madflax> Warbo, don
[07:47] <ompaul> !test
[07:47] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:47] <black_13> ompaul hall monitor
[07:47] <KenSentMe> willdev: reboot, login in recovery mode and change your password with passwd <username>
[07:47] <andresmujica> Hi, anyone can point me to an official xgl howto for dapper?  or a well tested guide?
[07:47] <lnx^> so how do i open an attachment like the one i described?
[07:47] <ompaul> black_13, a little more than that :)
[07:47] <ladydoor> !xgl
[07:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:47] <imperfect-> wow
[07:47] <Lubix> i got a question, how long did it take you to master bash?
[07:47] <willdev> kk thanks
[07:47] <imperfect-> I just totally cheated
[07:47] <Lubix> im learning it now and wanna know
[07:48] <lg> can I install more pks with just one apt-get issue?
[07:48] <Warbo> lnx^: It seems to be a Word document, so save it and open it with OpenOffice or Abiword of Kwrite
[07:48] <karabatak> who know callback configuration  for wvdial?
[07:48] <imperfect-> alternate didnt work right, so i installed w/ live cd-- went back w/ alternate installed base over the desktop... now i dont have a splash screen but the machine works like desktop ;)
[07:48] <Warbo> lg: Yup. "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 etc"
[07:48] <KenSentMe> lg: i think you can just use spaces between names
[07:48] <rbil> where can I see the terms that ubotu knows about?
[07:48] <lg> Thnx!
[07:48] <ladydoor> lnx^: or better yet, with antiword or something
[07:48] <Lubix> how long did it take folks to learn bash shell
[07:49] <andresmujica> tks
[07:49] <KenSentMe> !bots > rbil
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <meatface> Hello all!
[07:49] <KenSentMe> !bot > rbil
[07:49] <Warbo> lg: The cool thing is that a minus "-" will remove and a plus "+" will add, so "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3-" will actually remove package3, and + will install in a "remove" command
[07:49] <madflax> Warbo, well not much action in that #alsa channel..
[07:49] <lnx^> Warbo: yes, but for some reason Thunderbird doesn't show it up as an attachment at all
[07:49] <lnx^> Warbo: it is simply ASCII at the end of the message
[07:50] <Warbo> !info evolution
[07:50] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[07:50] <lg> Thnx aagin!
[07:50] <lnx^> haha :P no but it isn't a client-specific problem
[07:50] <Hooveyy> Xubuntu uses xfwm, right?
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:50] <lnx^> the sender just did something wrong
[07:50] <ExilE> can someone help me i just installed ubuntu and are having problems with ati graphics I went to site to download driver but I don't know if ubuntu uses xfree86 or x.org or which version please be kind i am a noob at this.
[07:50] <nolimitsoya> Hooveyy, yes it does :)
[07:51] <Hooveyy> Ah okay, thanks
[07:51] <leocoutinho1987> my ubuntu don't connect, somebody could help me ?
[07:51] <Hooveyy> Connect to..?
[07:51] <noxxle> is there a gui for Wine??
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[07:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:51] <nolimitsoya> !ati > ExilE
[07:51] <leocoutinho1987> modem, internet
[07:51] <Warbo> leocoutinho1987: You'll have to be a bit more specific, that could refer to anything
[07:51] <Warbo> oh
[07:51] <ExilE> thanks a lot.
[07:51] <leocoutinho1987> sorry
[07:51] <ThomBrown> anyone know how to enlarge the menu fonts of amarok??
[07:51] <nolimitsoya> !wine > noxxle
[07:51] <meatface> noxxle, I do not think that there is a gui for wine.
[07:51] <Warbo> leocoutinho1987: Broadband or dialup, internal or external, serial, USB or ethernet?
[07:52] <ExilE> !ati
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <noxxle> !wine
[07:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:52] <ThomBrown> anyone know how to enlarge the menu fonts of amarok??
[07:52] <lnx^> Warbo: i mean, i have the same problem even if i forward the message to gmail
[07:53] <meatface> noxxle, I am using wine at this moment to intall a windows based program. It is relatively simple to use
[07:53] <Warbo> ThomBrown: That would be a KDE setting, go in kcontrol (or install it if you are in GNOME)
[07:53] <noxxle> yes, but i wish it was easier to launch the programs it installs
[07:53] <rob_p> Lubix, Just use it... you'll learn it as you go.
[07:53] <noxxle> plus you need to find dlls on the net for programs
[07:53] <kristjin> I have mounted a hard drive using fstab and the command "/dev/sdc1	/media/sdc1	ext3	defaults	0	0" and it does come up on my desktop at start up but when I try to copy files to the drive, I get the error message "Error while copying to '/media/sdc1'. You do not have permissions to write to this folder."  I have already done a chmod 777 on the /media/sdc1 folder and that isn't the problem.  Any suggestions?
[07:53] <leocoutinho1987> my lucent v90 in ubuntu 6.06 don't connect, the wvdial  after dial, makin' the sounds of the modem... don't connect and says "carrier detected, waiting for prompt" and don't connect
[07:53] <Rookie_> !exton
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exton - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <noxxle> is there a big dll package i can get?
[07:54] <Warbo> lnx^: I am pretty bad with email, so maybe direct it to the channel again (I can't even send mail from Evolution because Yahoo! doesn't let me :( )
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, is it ntfs?
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> forget that >_<
[07:54] <Warbo> leocoutinho1987: Is that an interal modem?
[07:54] <krunchi1920> l leocoutinho1987 if you wanna help others why should other you
[07:54] <kristjin> No, I formatted it this morning to ext3.
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> saw it was ext3...
[07:54] <Hooveyy> xUbuntu is so pretty....
[07:54] <leocoutinho1987> oh thaks
[07:54] <clandestino> Hi. Does anybody know how I can run a certain command  (chmod g+s) recursively on all subdirectories without touching any files in the directories?
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> Hooveyy, i agree :)
[07:54] <leocoutinho1987> *thanks
[07:54] <kristjin> I got my ntfs drive working the other day, though.
[07:55] <kristjin> Hooray.  :)
[07:55] <madflax> TheGateKeeper, I've read that.. it lacks alot of information.. for example.. if I compile alsa myself.. do I have to remove the already installed alsa-drivers.. and what about all the other packages. like the newer alsa-utils and stuff..
[07:55] <lg> Can you tell me what's the meaning of this: nonrootuser@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install fftw-dev Reading package lists... Done
[07:55] <lg> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:55] <lg> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:55] <lg> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:55] <lg> E: Couldn't find package fftw-dev
[07:56] <maxkelley> how do I type special characters in ubuntu?
[07:56] <maxkelley> lg: type sudo apt-get update
[07:56] <Warbo> lg: Run "sudo apt-get update"
[07:56] <graveson> i would like to rename quite a few of my directories - is there a command for this.i need to remove all the whitespaces
[07:56] <lg> ok thnx
[07:56] <noxxle> what codec works for real media files??
[07:57] <Warbo> maxkelley: Try Application>Accessories>Character Map
[07:57] <Xenguy_> graveson: krename is a nice GUI app
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: the problem is that the devs have decided to remove alsaconf, when I asked them about this they told me if there is a problem is to report it as a bug
[07:57] <maxkelley> Warbo: is there a keyboard shortcut?
[07:57] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:57] <Warbo> graveson: Check out "krename" (you can run it in GNOME too)
[07:57] <Warbo> maxkelley: No idea, sorry
[07:57] <MadCowBoy> Hi there, I have a question... One of My drives (/hda1) is mounting no problem, but is appearing as ; (semi-colon) on the desktop, I don;t know how or why this happened, and I can;t figure out how to resolve this problem,
[07:57] <graveson> thanks guys
[07:57] <maxkelley> thanksn  anyways.
[07:57] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[07:58] <madflax> another question when u think about my prior... how do I access files from a XP shared drive.. do I have to install anything on the windows machine or anythin on the ubuntu pc?
[07:58] <Xenguy_> !codecs > noxxle
[07:58] <Warbo> madflax: Check out Samba
[07:58] <MadCowBoy> madflax, look into samba
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: I am not sure what the nature of your problem is, choices seem to be 1. Report problem as a bug, 2. Find a dev that can help you, or 3. Change distro
[07:59] <madflax> Warbo, is samba preinstaled on edgy?
[07:59] <kristjin> Does anyone have any suggestions about what might be going wrong on this drive?
[07:59] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux <- se if it helps
[07:59] <Hooveyy> wow, the dropline neu icon set is very very nice
[07:59] <nolimitsoya> have you done a chown?
[07:59] <leocoutinho1987> krunchi > is a softmodem, i don't know what is happenin'
[07:59] <Warbo> madflax: I don't know. I think it needs a little configuring anyway, but I have never used it myself and I am hopeless at networking
[08:00] <madflax> TheGateKeeper, where do one find a dev.. ? they doesn't seem to lurk around here! :(
[08:00] <do_kev> has anybody ever had problems with Shockwave?  I'm trying to navigate the sidebar for my course (which is a shockwave app), but the text is either showing up in white on a white background, or not at all.
[08:00] <kristjin> I already followed the instructions here: http://www.smorgasbord.net/how_to_install_second_hard_drive_ubuntu_linux
[08:00] <leocoutinho1987> krunchi> i 've configurated usin' the howto, the modem works well but I don't know what's happenin' with wvdial
[08:00] <lg> ehm, I forgot to say: I'm using a 56k..is the apt-get update feasable?
[08:00] <kristjin> And haven't been able to resolve this.
[08:00] <Warbo> do_kev: Shockwave is a grey area on Linux...
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, but have you donw chown, and not just chmod?
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> *done
[08:01] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:01] <do_kev> Warbo: Thanks.  It's not the end of the world, so I guess I'll just play around with it and hope for the best.
[08:01] <Warbo> lg: apt-get update just downloads the LIXTS of available packages, so yes it is fine (apt-get upgrade would upgrade every package, which would be a nightmare on 56k :) )
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: they do, you have to ask, and hope one comes to help you
[08:02] <MadCowBoy> Hi there, I have a question... One of My drives (/hda1) is mounting no problem, but is appearing as ; (semi-colon) on the desktop, I don;t know how or why this happened, and I can;t figure out how to resolve this problem, Ive switched up my fstab, to no avail, and I can't find a solution on any internet searches I am doing...
[08:03] <colder4545> i know there are some file shredders out there, but do any shred the free space (ie previously deleted files)?
[08:03] <lg> ok!
[08:03] <madflax> I read in a forum where a guy was so upset he ninja chopped his pc.. and then wanted to ninja chop pretty much everything.. I hope I'll not come to the ninjachop syndrome! :)
[08:03] <kristjin> No, and I hear chown is dangerous.
[08:03] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, try 'sudo chown -R username:username /folder', where username is *gasp* your username ;) and folder is the folder your drive is mounted in
[08:03] <lg> I've been shivering.. ;-)
[08:03] <kristjin> Alright...
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, no it isnt, it just makes you the owner of everything in a folder, and with the -R it makes you the owner of everything beneath it
[08:04] <[H] 3b0R> damn why am i getting banned from #cedega!?
[08:04] <madflax> Any developers here that care to help a poor sod with his ubuntu problem?
[08:04] <kristjin> I'm trusting you on this, nolimitsoya.. I saw someone get chastised for suggesting this once... :)
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> ^ ^
[08:04] <ladydoor> !language
[08:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:04] <kristjin> Thanks for the help!
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> did it work?
[08:04] <willdev> is there a guide to upgrade to edgy?
[08:05] <KenSentMe> !upgrade > willdev
[08:06] <colder4545> willdev, i just followed the edgy news link off of http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <willdev> i got it thanks :)
[08:06] <colder4545> will dev, works great unless you have custom packages that don't have edgy repos (like compiz)
[08:06] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, any luck?
[08:06] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:06] <ScreaminIke> i just hard-powerd down my machine, brought it back up, and the partition table is HOSED . is there a recovery tool for this?
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> ScreaminIke, what file system?
[08:07] <Warbo> ScreaminIke: gpart
[08:07] <ScreaminIke> uhm... ext2, i believe
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> sry, partitiontable...
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> then you are screwed :)
[08:07] <ScreaminIke> yea
[08:07] <Warbo> !info gpart
[08:07] <[Daniel] > SceaminIke> Ouch
[08:07] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[08:07] <ScreaminIke> i knew i should have been journaling
[08:08] <[Daniel] > ScreaminIke> gpart sounds like your ticket
[08:08] <ScreaminIke> i'm going to get a copy of spinrite, i guess
[08:08] <ScreaminIke> gpart?
[08:08] <fangorious> just asked in #gl with no response. My multimedia gnome keybindings (set from gnome-keybinding-properties) don't seem to work in gl+ompiz as they did in org+metaity
[08:08] <ScreaminIke> how?
[08:08] <kristjin> Well, it didn't say anything after I did the chown, so, we'll see... hang on...
[08:09] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, do a chmod -755 afterwards :)
[08:09] <rojoneck> hello
[08:09] <[Daniel] > ScreaminIke> I'm guessing based on what ubotu said just above, but I'm thinking run a live CD, enable "universe" package repository, sudo apt-get install gpart
[08:10] <rojoneck> is kernel generic the default kernek for ubuntu 6.10?
[08:10] <kristjin> Oh really?
[08:10] <nolimitsoya> rojoneck, yes :)
[08:10] <kristjin> On which, the mount folder, or the drive itself?
[08:10] <nolimitsoya> the folder where your drive is mounted :)
[08:10] <kristjin> Okay, thank you, nolimitsoya.
[08:10] <kristjin> The chmod solved my problem.
[08:10] <kristjin> You rock my socks.
[08:10] <kristjin> Have a fabby day.
[08:11] <nolimitsoya> np :)
[08:11] <madflax> can somebody rock my socks too?
[08:11] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, chmod -R 755 gives you a bit of security as well...
[08:11] <Tokenbad> when I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known
[08:11] <Tokenbad> any help?
[08:11] <kristjin> come sit next to me, madflax... I'll rock your socks...
[08:11] <kristjin> HEh.
[08:11] <rojoneck> I have a problem with it, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030)
[08:11] <nolimitsoya> !anyone > madflax
[08:11] <madflax> lol
[08:11] <ianmacgregor> !seveas
[08:11] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:11] <kristjin> Thanks again, nolimitsoya.
[08:12] <kristjin> Have a great Sunday!
[08:12] <jstarcher> How do I make my sound work again? Im in fluxbox and I opened skype with XMMS running and it stopped working...Can't find ALSA device
[08:12] <leocoutinho1987> Somebody knows how to help me with my lucent v.90 (internal), and the wvdial that don't connect... it dials and after the message "carrier detected, waiting for prompt", disconnects... if anyone could help, pvt me , please...
[08:13] <rojoneck> I have a problem with ubuntu kernel genreric, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030) <--- any suggentions
[08:13] <Warbo> Tokenbad: I see you follow a similar sensible computer naming scheme as me :)
[08:13] <[Daniel] > jstarcher, try sudo /etc/init,d/alsa-utils restart
[08:13] <[Daniel] > er, init.d
[08:13] <Tokenbad> Warbo, yeah
[08:14] <FarrisG> Are there any apps that will let you somehow use your keyboard as a mouse? I have a wireless keyboard/mouse on my Ubuntu machine in the living room for media. THe range is OK for the keyboard, but not the mouse. I have to get within 4 feet of the receiver to use the mouse
[08:14] <leocoutinho1987> the howto don't explain what i may do
[08:14] <Tokenbad> what does it mean ipv6 getaddrindo whats it trying to do?
[08:14] <balor_> Are there any cross-compilers for Sparc or ARM or Power in the Ubuntu Apt repos?
[08:14] <ToHellWithGA> is there a command i can run in the terminal to see my free hdd space?
[08:14] <ladydoor> FarrisG: i believe you can use numberlock buttons to do it somehow, i'd google for that
[08:15] <ladydoor> FarrisG: also, check out ratpoisonwm--it has mousecontrol features you can bind to keyboard shortcuts
[08:15] <rojoneck> I have a problem with ubuntu kernel generic, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030) <--- any suggentions
[08:15] <Warbo> ToHellWithGA: df
[08:15] <ToHellWithGA> thanks Warbo
[08:15] <leocoutinho1987> please  help me with my lucent v.90 (internal), and the wvdial that don't connect... it dials and after the message "carrier detected, waiting for prompt", disconnects...  what  can i do ?
[08:15] <fni> guys, i read that realvnc is included with ubuntu. how do i start it?
[08:16] <turner> Hello
[08:16] <jstarcher> Daniel: didn't work :( When I typed that command it said "warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'... " and XMMS is still broken
[08:16] <turner> I have a multi-processor system, however cat /proc/cpuinfo only shows one cpu.
[08:16] <leocoutinho1987> :( hmmm...
[08:16] <rojoneck> I have a problem with ubuntu kernel generic, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030) <--- any suggentions
[08:16] <balor_> turner: what version of Ubuntu?
[08:16] <fangorious> turner, are you running the smp kernel
[08:16] <turner> er
[08:17] <Warbo> Anyone know how pervasive GNOME's network settings are? I have set the proxy to use my TOR server, but am wondering how many apps will actually use that setting?
[08:17] <turner> Linux version 2.6.15-27-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
[08:17] <balor_> turner: cat /etc/issue
[08:17] <turner> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[08:17] <balor_> turner: you have to install an SMP kernel
[08:17] <Tokenbad> when I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known  :  Can anyone tell me what this means?
[08:17] <leocoutinho1987> please help me with my lucent v.90 (internal) [ubuntu 6.06] , and the wvdial that don't connect... it dials and after the message "carrier detected, waiting for prompt", disconnects... what i do ?
[08:17] <turner> and what's the process for that?
[08:17] <balor_> turner: only Edgy (6.10) will autodetect multiple processors
[08:18] <jstarcher> Daniel: Opps, I forgot to run sudo. That's why it errored. I just sudoed it and it restarted successfully. But XMMS still says to check if sound card is configured properly :(
[08:18] <balor_> turner: apt-get install some-kernel-smp
[08:18] <fangorious> turner, system->administration->synaptics
[08:18] <turner> It's a duel P3
[08:18] <ScreaminIke> ok... so i installed gpart. anyone know how to use this?
[08:18] <balor_> turner: do an apt-cache search for smp first
[08:18] <nolimitsoya> ScreaminIke, try man gpart
[08:18] <turner> linux-686-smp would work?
[08:19] <fangorious> turner, probably
[08:19] <fangorious> turner, uname -a say you have a 686?
[08:19] <ScreaminIke> system specs: hd0 - 1 partition (ntfs) 80 gb. hd1 - 3 partitions 50 gb ext2, 512 mb swap, 5 gb ext2
[08:19] <turner> cat: invalid option -- a
[08:19] <turner> Try `cat --help' for more information.
[08:19] <turner> er
[08:19] <Cyber_Stalker> im back :P
[08:19] <Warbo> I'm off
[08:19] <turner> 386
[08:20] <fangorious> turner, what processor do you have?
[08:20] <turner> P3
[08:20] <turner> 560 mhz
[08:20] <fangorious> turner, 686-smp will do
[08:20] <ScreaminIke> man pages are terribly unhelpful
[08:21] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[08:21] <Hooveyy> How do I force X into 1280x1024?
[08:21] <Hooveyy> It isn't in my resolution menu,
[08:21] <Hooveyy> But I need it at 1280x1024
[08:21] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:21] <turner> thank you
[08:21] <fangorious> Hooveyy, and you're monitor definitely supports it?
[08:21] <ianmacgregor> Hooveyy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:21] <Hooveyy> Yes fangorious
[08:21] <variant> Himura: if your card/monitor supports it you can put hte line into xorg.conf
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> Hooveyy: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <ianmacgregor> Hooveyy: You'll also need to restart X to see the new resolution
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> restarts x...
[08:22] <Cyber_Stalker> what irc client should i use for linux? & more specificly ubuntu
[08:22] <Hooveyy> Yah
[08:22] <willdev> xchat
[08:22] <Hooveyy> Yep, xchat is good.
[08:22] <boink> there are many irc clients
[08:22] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, xchat or xchat-gnome
[08:22] <willdev> sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:22] <ianmacgregor> Cyber_Stalker: That is totally up to you. Do you like gui or text-based?
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> i would prefer gui
[08:23] <boink> gui-based = xchat
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> but i been trying to get xchat to work
[08:23] <ianmacgregor> xchat may suit you then
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> Cyber_Stalker, lostirc is my favourite, but xchat is very common
[08:23] <boink> or even gaim
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> its giving me hell
[08:23] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, or konversation if you like kde
[08:23] <willdev> why?
[08:23] <jstarcher> How do I make my sound work again? Im in fluxbox and I opened skype with XMMS running and it stopped working...Can't find ALSA device
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> Cyber_Stalker, try lostirc then'
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> it wont compile :/
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> sudo apt-get install lostirc
[08:23] <Hooveyy> rofl, my ubuntu shutdown screen is xubuntu but my startup is ubuntu, odd.
[08:23] <willdev> sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[08:23] <willdev> run that
[08:23] <willdev> then it will install :)
[08:23] <boink> man apt-get
[08:23] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, xchat won't compile? you shouldn't need to compile it, just 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> ok yea
[08:24] <ianmacgregor> willdev: I've never had to install that and my xchat runs fine
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> but i mean compiling is part of linux :P
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> makes it more fun
[08:24] <boink> apt-get is the debian tool to install software
[08:24] <willdev> it dont matter
[08:24] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, you seem to be having a great time with it
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> yea im new to linux :P
[08:24] <willdev> both work
[08:24] <willdev> and are nearly the same
[08:24] <ianmacgregor> Cyber_Stalker: It's best to use the package manager and the repos for your distro
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> oh :/
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> my bad
[08:25] <boink> really, almost no distro requires you to compile yourself
[08:25] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, unless the packaged version doesn't offer a feature you want/need
[08:25] <visik7> anyone using edgy + xen ?
[08:25] <variant> Cyber_Stalker: it is advisable but its perfectly fine  (encouraged) to do that kind of thing, it helps you learn
[08:25] <willdev> anyone have a preconfiged source.list i can use?
[08:25] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:25] <ianmacgregor> boink , fangorious Both good points
[08:25] <jstarcher> How do I make my sound work again? Im in fluxbox and I opened skype with XMMS running and it stopped working...Can't find ALSA device
[08:25] <ianmacgregor> !easysource > willdev
[08:25] <Hooveyy> I reconfigured x and told it to use 1280x1024 but it didnt do anything :S
[08:25] <variant> jstarcher: apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> Cyber_Stalker: if you want all your apps to be compiled before you use them, then you need a source based distro like gentoo, or sourcemage :-)
[08:25] <ianmacgregor> Hooveyy: Did you restart X?
[08:26] <variant> jstarcher: and then in future start skype iwth "aoss skype" instead of just "skype"
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> WHAT
[08:26] <variant> jstarcher: then it will work with multiple programs open
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> im so confused
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> this whole thing
[08:26] <boink> pkg_src from NetBSD is another pkg management system for Linux
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> so much to leanr
[08:26] <jstarcher> variant: I'll give it a shot, thanks!
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> all i did was throw in a live CD & install :P
[08:26] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, TheGateKeeper was talking about distributions that are base on you comiling everything, opposed to ubuntu/fedora/suse that provide binary packages fr everything
[08:27] <Hendikins> If I'm writing documentation for Firefox 2.0, I should be playing with Dapper.1, correct?
[08:27] <variant> Hendikins: edgy
[08:27] <Cyber_Stalker> ok well gimme a sec
[08:27] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, From the System menu, go to Administration, and then Synaptics
[08:27] <Cyber_Stalker> sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome worked
[08:27] <Hendikins> variant: Why so? (I'm aiming at Joe Enduser here, and it isn't a Ubuntu-specific document)
[08:28] <manmadha> can any one tell how to set alaram in the system by "at"cmd?
[08:28] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, this is a gui front-end to the apt package manager
[08:28] <Cyber_Stalker> so gimme a sec to reconnect with that & get support from that machine instead of trying to swop terminals
[08:28] <variant> Hendikins: edgy comes with firefox2..
[08:28] <manmadha> i want to play a song at the particular time
[08:28] <manmadha> can any one help me?
[08:28] <fm> hi
[08:28] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, with Synaptics you can browse and the list of packages available
[08:28] <boink> xmms has an alarm plugin
[08:28] <blackwire83> hi there, does anyone have a link to how to move evolution 2.6 data (mail &contacts works, but not calendar and accounts) from one machine to another?
[08:28] <Hendikins> variant: I don't care about what comes with Firefox 2 (I'm on the Firefox side, not the Ubuntu side, the version shipped with Ubuntu is not of my concern)
[08:28] <boink> otherwise, you can use crontab
[08:28] <fm> I'm having troubles with twinview but #nvidia is asleep
[08:29] <variant> Hendikins: so why did you ask?
[08:29] <fangorious> blackwire83, copy your .evolution folder?
[08:29] <manmadha> boink, how to use xmms alaram plugin?
[08:29] <Hendikins> variant: What is Joe Enduser most likely to have? Dapper[.1] ?
[08:29] <boink> you have it installed?
[08:29] <cyber> there we go
[08:29] <blackwire83> fangorious: that's exactly what i did, see what's in the brackets
[08:29] <Hooveyy> iammac: yes i did
[08:29] <jstarcher> variant: I did what you said and skype still has no sound. The console give this error "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:851:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client"
[08:29] <Hooveyy> it doesnt show 1280x1024 in the resolutions list :S
[08:29] <Hendikins> (and this stuff should be equally applicable to 1.5.0.x anyway)
[08:29] <Hooveyy> like, when i go prefs > screen res
[08:29] <variant> jstarcher: sorry mate, i dont know
[08:29] <kronos1> i cant get ubuntu to install on my compaq presario 1200...should i reformat the hard drive first, then try to install?
[08:29] <fangorious> blackwire83, wire, is see parenthesized stuff though
[08:29] <cyber> only issue now is that i dont have "on nick" alerts & stuff
[08:30] <variant> jstarcher: try the beta skype version, it has alsa support (previously was just oss
[08:30] <elfstone> i've got a question, how to edit the fstab to mount a partition in XFS filesystem??
[08:30] <fangorious> blackwire83, should have read "no, i see parenthesized stuff though"
[08:30] <variant> elfstone: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[08:30] <nolimitsoya> kronos1, thats a good start. a shred is also a good thing, to get a clean drive before writing a new filesystem
[08:30] <blackwire83> fangorious: how do i move email account data and calendar?
[08:30] <variant> elfstone: just copy one of the existing lines and change the parition number
[08:30] <Kim^J> WTF! How do I make ALSA available? Trying to play Stepmania and it keeps complaining about ALSA being used already by something else...
[08:30] <variant> elfstone: leave the filesystem typ eas "auto"
[08:31] <elfstone> variant ok i try it
[08:31] <emmettshear> I'm trying to compile a driver, and I'm getting the error "include/linux/errno.h:4:23: error: asm/errno.h: No such file or directory"...any ideas how to fix it?
[08:31] <ladydoor> Kim^J: stop using whatever else is using your soundcard...
[08:31] <variant> Kim^J: apt-get install alsa-oss and start stepmainia with aoss stepmainia
[08:31] <Kim^J> ladydoor: Theres nothing using my friggij soundcard!
[08:31] <fangorious> blackwire83, i don't know. copying the .evolution folder was the only guess I had. Unless evolution has some kind of import/migration utility somewhere (i don't use evolution)
[08:31] <boink> Kim^J: do a ps aux|less to see that
[08:31] <blackwire83> fangorious: ok
[08:31] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm
[08:31] <Cyber_Stalker> cyber
[08:31] <variant> Kim^J: just try my idea :).. thats a workaround to fix this exact problem
[08:31] <kronos1> what about flashing the bios?
[08:31] <cyber> some one call me quick?
[08:31] <emmettshear> the only asm/errno.h on my system is in /usr/include, but it doesn't seem to be finding it (the linux source it's compiling against is in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15)
[08:32] <cyber> just like say my nick :P
[08:32] <cyber> please
[08:32] <Kim^J> variant: aoss ./stepmania ?
[08:32] <fangorious> cyber
[08:32] <cyber> thanks
[08:32] <cyber> its only a small beep tho :/
[08:32] <variant> Kim^J: if you normaly startit with ./stepmania then yes
[08:32] <cyber> see now thats the kind of thing i would edit source for
[08:32] <cyber> :P
[08:32] <Kim^J> variant: Oh damn... That worked...
[08:32] <cyber> i like that it has a python scripting interface :P
[08:32] <cyber> /whois cyber
[08:32] <cyber> oops :/
[08:32] <ladydoor> Kim^J: well, ALSA disagrees. have you been listening to music or watching a video/youtube/something (not necessarily this instant--especially if it's paused)
[08:32] <Hooveyy> when im configuring x, do i like, just hover over one then hit enter?
[08:33] <Hooveyy> or do i need some cmd to select it? :S
[08:33] <Kim^J> ladydoor: I did kill artsd before I tryed to start the game...
[08:33] <fangorious> Hooveyy, hover over one what?
[08:33] <lmosher> what's edgy's release date?
[08:33] <Kim^J> Well... Problem solved!
[08:33] <Hooveyy> like, it shows the resolutions
[08:33] <boink> 26 october
[08:33] <Kim^J> lmosher: A few days...
[08:33] <nolimitsoya> lmosher, 26:th
[08:33] <fm> When GDM starts I have twinview working, then, after I log in, I lose my second display... :( Any Idea why??
[08:33] <lmosher> ok ty. And (this is my 1st new version) one can upgrade easily w/ apt, right?
[08:33] <Hooveyy> i use my arrow keys and go over 1280x1024 and it shows [ | ]  or whatever, and i hit enter
[08:33] <cyber> guys
[08:33] <cyber> how do i connect to 2 servers?
[08:33] <ladydoor> Kim^J: hmmm...suspicious
[08:33] <Hooveyy> do i need to do some cmd to select it or something?
[08:34] <variant> Kim^J: your welcome
[08:34] <nolimitsoya> lmosher, updatemaganer -r -c
[08:34] <lmosher> cyber: you mean on IRC? That depends on the client but I think it's /server -e
[08:34] <nolimitsoya> *manager
[08:34] <fangorious> Hooveyy: i use the space bar to mark resolutions, and the up and down arrows to navigate
[08:34] <lmosher> ty nolimitsoya
[08:34] <Hooveyy> omfg, thank you
[08:34] <Hooveyy> it worked
[08:35] <cyber> wrong thing to type :P
[08:35] <variant> cyber: what irc client do you use?
[08:35] <Hooveyy> i wasnt pressing space bar :p
[08:35] <cyber> x-chat
[08:35] <elfstone> variant thanks for help :) the problem with my fstab was that i have old setting for win fat32 filesystem which i turned to xfs
[08:35] <variant> cyber: open the new server dialog
[08:35] <variant> elfstone: ah :)
[08:35] <variant> cyber: i cant rememebr how to use xchat tbh
[08:35] <Hooveyy> brb, ubuntu time!
[08:35] <cyber> there is no "new server"
[08:35] <Vaske_Car> Why my cable internet working slow with Ubuntu? Evety time I click on the web page it need 5-6 seconds to open?
[08:35] <cyber> :/
[08:35] <lmosher> I sware there's a flag for the /server command, but I don't remember it at all :P
[08:35] <variant> cyber: irssi is client of people who are leet :)
[08:35] <cyber> lies ;P
[08:36] <cyber> ive used X-chat before :P
[08:36] <manmadha> boink, thank u i have installed it
[08:36] <cyber> its python ability will > your armour
[08:36] <variant> cyber: new > server window
[08:36] <lmosher> cyber: xchat -> new -> server tab
[08:36] <cyber> :)
[08:36] <cyber> this is x-chat gnome
[08:36] <boink> that's one way to doing the alarm.
[08:36] <variant> cyber: irssi has better python support than xchat
[08:36] <Zta> I need help installing lilo with the ubuntu-6.10-rc-i386 install cd.  When I choose "Install LILO Bootloader" from the menu, the installer starts partitioning my disk and install the base system.  I'm not interested in that; I just want to run lilo (since I've read GRUB doesn't handle SATA-II disks (on the JMicron controller)).
[08:36] <cyber> there is no "new"
[08:36] <boink> using crontab is another way
[08:36] <variant> cyber: unlucky.. you should have said so :)#
[08:36] <lmosher> cyber: upgrade your xchat then, I have it :)
[08:37] <cyber> screw this
[08:37] <cyber> variant:
[08:37] <fangorious> cyber, xchat-gnome takes a lot of usefull stuff out of the UI
[08:37] <fangorious> like configuring a proxy server
[08:37] <cyber> sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:37] <cyber> ?
[08:37] <elfstone> variant what should i type in the option section of fstab to gain a full read-write access to xfs disk
[08:37] <lmosher> oh, yeah I woudln't suggest xchat-gnome sorry... xchat-common is the ubuntu version that sucks a little less...
[08:37] <elfstone> ?
[08:37] <variant> cyber: yeah
[08:37] <cyber> kk
[08:37] <variant> elfstone: make sure ro is not there
[08:37] <lmosher> or irssi for the leet types :)
[08:37] <lmosher> anyway gtg. Ty for info
[08:37] <fangorious> cyber: i always just go back to plain xchat
[08:37] <variant> elfstone: user,auto should be enough
[08:38] <variant> cyber: I know for a fact that you will hate it :)#
[08:38] <shadrach> is there a link to an ubuntu live cd on the website?
[08:38] <cyber> irssi is already installed...
[08:38] <cyber> ok
[08:38] <unluckymike> <--- need help with rt2500 card setup, anyone have any know how?
[08:38] <cyber> so where do i find it?
[08:38] <nolimitsoya> cyber type irssi in a terminal
[08:38] <fangorious> just asked in #gl with no response. My multimedia gnome keybindings (play/pause, stop, prev, next set from gnome-keybinding-properties) don't seem to work in xgl+compiz as they did in org+metacity
[08:38] <variant> cyber: when you run it (from a terminal) type /connect irc.freenode.net
[08:38] <nolimitsoya> but cyber, try lostirc :)
[08:39] <Zta> So, how do I manually install and run the lilo-installer from the rescue shell?  I can't find dpkg og apt-get.  Perhaps I should use the one on my root?
[08:39] <cyber> ROFFEL ME A WAFFLE :P
[08:39] <variant> cyber: to connect to annother server type /connect newservernamehere
[08:39] <cyber> plaing text ftl
[08:39] <variant> Zta: ubuntu uses grub by default
[08:39] <variant> cyber: nothing plain about it :)
[08:39] <elfstone> variant that didnt solve the problem
[08:39] <poningru> !wifi
[08:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:39] <variant> elfstone: what is the problem?
[08:40] <Zta> variant, that comment isn't helping me.
[08:40] <junky> if ive http://pastebin.ca/215608 , how can i use my sound card, which is using snd-atiixp ?
[08:40] <unluckymike> yeah, i checked the wifi docs, no help
[08:40] <b08y> hey people out there, what about dapper backports, do we get some good apps backported from edgy in next time?
[08:40] <cyber> nolimitsoya: whats the package name for lost irc?
[08:40] <[Daniel] > Zta> Try running something that has apt-get, like the live CD?
[08:41] <ink251> what the hell, a "moving to ubuntu" ebook is in the chm format, which cant be viewed in ubuntu.
[08:41] <nolimitsoya> cyber, lostirc
[08:41] <cyber> ...
[08:41] <ladydoor> !language | ink251
[08:41] <ubotu> ink251: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:41] <cyber> couldnt find it
[08:41] <variant> ink251: apt-get install gnochm
[08:41] <nolimitsoya> sudo apt-get install lostirc ;)
[08:41] <cyber> E: Couldn't find package lostirc
[08:41] <Zta> [Daniel] , That was my plan B.  But I was hoping the rescue disk could ... rescue me.
[08:41] <nolimitsoya> cyber, are all repos enabled?
[08:41] <b08y> backports!
[08:41] <cyber> repos??
[08:41] <cyber> im new to linux
[08:41] <variant> ink251: it can, funny thing is, it wont open by default on windows either without installing software
[08:42] <unluckymike> in my network setting it says wmaster0, and wlan0, which one is my actual wlan
[08:42] <nolimitsoya> cyber fire up synaptic
[08:42] <elfstone> variant i can only read from the xfs filesystem disk
[08:42] <[Daniel] > Zta> Yeah I don't really know anything about it I'm afraid :)
[08:42] <cyber> done
[08:42] <ink251> i thought it opened under the help viewer thing
[08:42] <ink251> in XP atleast
[08:42] <Zta> Live CD it is.
[08:42] <variant> elfstone: you need to set the correct permissions possibly?
[08:42] <nolimitsoya> cyber click settings, repositories
[08:42] <nolimitsoya> edit, and enable all
[08:42] <variant> elfstone: or is it actualy mounted read only?
[08:43] <nolimitsoya> (that is, check all boxes)
[08:43] <variant> elfstone: dont forget that after editing fstab you have to remount it to have changes take effect
[08:43] <nolimitsoya> after that, reload
[08:43] <ink251> is there a guide to making ubuntu more multimedia, browsing, ebook friendly? or atleast a package list?
[08:43] <cyber> nolimitsoya:  every single one of them
[08:43] <cyber> ???
[08:43] <cyber> no matter what they are?
[08:43] <junky> after having modprobe 2 snd cards, how can i switch between them, without having to reboot?
[08:43] <nolimitsoya> cyber, yes
[08:43] <elfstone> variant i know i have to remount
[08:43] <fangorious> cyber, just curious, but are you specifically looking for a command-line irc client, or just something better than xchat-gnome?
[08:43] <variant> junky: what do you mean switch?
[08:44] <[Daniel] > ink251, Automatix has a lot of useful stuff
[08:44] <variant> junky: tell your programs to use the other you mean?
[08:44] <cyber> some thing better
[08:44] <brainiac> fangorious: try loqui
[08:44] <elfstone> variant mounths ago i have the same problem with fat32 partition and i solved with umask and gid
[08:44] <TheGateKeeper> ink251: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:44] <elfstone> but now i dont remeber how
[08:44] <brainiac> fangorious: a really nice and compact irc client
[08:44] <b08y> cyber: than take a look at the normal xchat, without -gnome
[08:44] <cyber> lol nah
[08:44] <cyber> lostirc
[08:44] <cyber> whats it like?
[08:44] <variant> ink251: automatix is not supported here or by ubuntu and you will be installing a lot of proprietry software with that
[08:44] <cyber> plain text
[08:44] <fangorious> ink251, and it has a bad reputation with the ubuntu team because it does lots of -force stuff to override dependencies
[08:44] <nolimitsoya> simple
[08:45] <cyber> or does it actually have an interface?
[08:45] <marc_> Can't seem to find my Wireless Connection under system Admin....any ideas to help me install this.
[08:45] <variant> cyber: its kinda like xchat gnome
[08:45] <nolimitsoya> cyber, no, graphical, but stripped down and easy to use
[08:45] <variant> cyber: irssi has an interface...
[08:45] <cyber> ....
[08:45] <brainiac> cyber.. give loqui a try
[08:45] <cyber> variant:  a limited one :P
[08:45] <variant> cyber: not at all!
[08:45] <fangorious> brainiac, i'm happy with xchat, i was curious what cyber's goal is
[08:45] <cyber> every one is like get this get that
[08:45] <variant> cyber: you just dont understand the concept of interface
[08:45] <junky> variant: id likd to play my ogg (with xmms) with other sound card instead of the 1st one.
[08:45] <cyber> fangorious: there wasnt a defult irc client & i wanted a good one
[08:46] <variant> junky: in xmms settings you can select your other sound card
[08:46] <junky> i changed the mixer to use the 2nd one, but this is always the 1st one, which is used.
[08:46] <^Alan^> its ok cyber lol were all confused here in some areas :)
[08:46] <cyber> im used to xchat so how can i get that
[08:46] <marc_> I need help with my Wireless Connection...
[08:46] <nolimitsoya> cyber, sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:46] <cyber> ^Alan^: im completly confused
[08:46] <marc_> anybody have advise..??
[08:46] <variant> cyber: apt-get install xchat2
[08:46] <fangorious> cyber: i lend my vote to plain xhcat (apt-get install xchat)
[08:46] <cyber> xchat 2
[08:46] <^Alan^> lol no problem bud were all here for you
[08:46] <cyber> ?
[08:46] <Hooveyy> Whoa, my mom's van got broken into.
[08:46] <^Alan^> im only a distributor...but ill try to help anybody who needs it
[08:46] <cyber> whats the diff between x2 & just chat?
[08:46] <junky> variant: ive changed it in the gnome Analog center, not in xmms, any hint where's it in xmms? ive took a look, this morning, without success
[08:47] <fangorious> cyber, 1
[08:47] <Hooveyy> :p
[08:47] <variant> junky: sorry i dont use xmms
[08:47] <cyber> lol
[08:47] <Hooveyy> I'm running VMWare, fullscreen, 1280x1024, woot :)
[08:47] <variant> junky: i remmeber that you could from when i did though
[08:47] <^Alan^> aye yie yie this place has turned into chaos central
[08:47] <marc_> Alan...I'm looking for help with my Wireless Connection....which I can seem to find under my "System" and "admin" menus...
[08:47] <cyber> Hooveyy:  same here :P
[08:47] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:47] <marc_> Can't
[08:47] <cyber> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:47] <cyber> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:47] <cyber> oh my....
[08:47] <cyber> lies
[08:47] <cyber> i sudo'ed
[08:47] <fangorious> marc_, have you tried network-manager-gnome?
[08:47] <cyber> GIVE ME POWER
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> cyber, close synaptic ;)
[08:48] <cyber> u are not microshaft ....
[08:48] <ladydoor> cyber: you need to close synaptic/aptitude/adept
[08:48] <fangorious> marc_, or -kde if you use kubuntu
[08:48] <cyber> OH
[08:48] <cyber> :/
[08:48] <marc_> UNbuntu...
[08:48] <marc_> Ubuntu...and no I haven't where is located..?
[08:48] <^Alan^> can i take a few of you into pm so it would be easier to talk to you? or is that a no no? (this things getting sooo crowded its hard to distinguish where one begins and one ends!)
[08:48] <fangorious> marc_, 'sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome'
[08:48] <xipietotec> Is edgy finalized for release?
[08:48] <junky> variant: and is http://pastebin.ca/215616 looks fine to ya?
[08:48] <^Alan^> no its not
[08:48] <^Alan^> that i know of anyways
[08:48] <cyber> cant find package xchat OR xchat2
[08:48] <cyber> ...
[08:49] <marc_> Fang...I just need to type that into a terminal..?
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> cyber, then you have fu you repos ;)
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> *your
[08:49] <cyber> i didnt do anything :/
[08:49] <fangorious> marc_, gives you a notification area applet that has a drop-down list of wlan's it can find, yo click on one and it prompts for any necessary security credentials
[08:49] <cyber> i installed linux today
[08:49] <xipietotec> meaning that if I distro upgraded now, I'd likely have to do another distro upgrade in a week?
[08:49] <cyber> & tried to compile xchat earlyer & then i came here :P
[08:49] <^Alan^> sooo cyber your a true newbie eh? :)
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> cyber, you where supposed to check the boxes in synaptic, not uncheck ;)
[08:49] <cyber> i checked them...
[08:49] <fangorious> marc_, or you can 'connect to other network' and manually type in the SSID and encryption settings
[08:49] <cyber> all of them
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> cyber, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:50] <DarthVineman> Anyone know how to disable password protection for things? Im trying to install something via the terminal, but when I type "su" and hit enter it wont let me type my pass
[08:50] <^Alan^> oh yea thats the command i was trying to think of! thanks nolimitsoya!
[08:50] <^Alan^> lol
[08:50] <JosefK> DarthVineman: sudo, not su
[08:50] <brainiac> darth... try sudo su
[08:50] <^Alan^> apt-get...durr
[08:50] <cyber> there yua go
[08:50] <DarthVineman> Ok
[08:50] <variant> DarthVineman: sudo application name
[08:50] <cd32fan> heloo
[08:51] <cyber> u never told me to update after enabling them :P
[08:51] <cyber> any one from south africa have a spare machine for me :P
[08:51] <Kim^J> Hmm... Having really strange problems with sound now... KDE can't play sounds but Amarok can. Xmms can. Konqueror can. But not KDE. The "Test Sound System" plays the sound. But not Kopete and Kwin.
[08:51] <fangorious> DarthVineman, 'sudo -s' gives you a root shell
[08:51] <DarthVineman> Ok
[08:51] <cyber> i need a machine i can dedicate to ubunti instead of using VMware
[08:51] <^Alan^> lol it would take months for me to get you my spare machine
[08:51] <ScreaminIke> on a 60 gb and an 80 bg hd, .... with a 2.3ghz celeron chip, and 512 mb ram (256m vram) in a live ubuntu session... how long should gpart take?
[08:51] <^Alan^> as i live in the USA
[08:51] <tanubis> anyone familiar with kpilot
[08:51] <fangorious> cyber, i have two, but i'm in the US
[08:51] <marc_> Fang...yes it is installed.........but all I can see is Ethernet and Fax Modem...Still NO wireless Connection....ummmm?
[08:51] <^Alan^> id help you out bud but yea
[08:51] <^Alan^> lol
[08:51] <JosefK> marc_; are you on edgy or dapper?
[08:52] <mrbond82> Can someone tell me a current guide on how to get xgl+compiz-gnome working?
[08:52] <cyber> ^Alan^: could i pay for postage & u still send it?
[08:52] <junky> variant: i changed the mixer to use the 2nd card, but this is always the 1st one to play
[08:52] <cd32fan> can somebody please explain me how i can reset the mouse settings in the desktop?
[08:52] <DarthVineman> Same problem still
[08:52] <cyber> :P
[08:52] <fbc> Is there any program that will fix or normalize video files?
[08:52] <tuxedup> As I understand it the Ubuntu kernels come with some sourceless firmware, is it possible to remove this firmware, if so would I have to recompile the kernel or is there another method?
[08:52] <^Alan^> lol :P
[08:52] <ScreaminIke> uhm... i thnk it's edgy beta 1
[08:52] <DarthVineman> Ive tried sudo, sudo -s and su
[08:52] <DarthVineman> When it asks for my password
[08:52] <DarthVineman> It wont let me type
[08:52] <marc_> JOse.......alll i know is that I'm using "Ubuntu"...LOL
[08:52] <DarthVineman> It wont record the key hits
[08:52] <fangorious> marc_, i should have specified it helps you configure the usage of an already recognized wifi chipset
[08:52] <JosefK> marc_: heh, run 'lsb_release -a' in a terminal, it'll tell you dapper or edgy
[08:52] <cd32fan> where can i find the mouse settings file?
[08:52] <fangorious> marc_, it doesn't help you get an unrecognized chipset working
[08:52] <marc_> Kewl...Jose....
[08:53] <cyber> 14.8kb's download
[08:53] <cd32fan> the mouse speed is too fast,and i wanted to reset back to the defaults
[08:53] <JosefK> marc_: if it's dapper, run 'sudo aptitude install linux-686' (assuming you're in i386, not amd64), if it's edgy, run 'sudo aptitude install linux-generic'
[08:53] <cyber> welcome to south africa & limited BW so people can make more money off you...
[08:53] <cd32fan> pleasey
[08:53] <^Alan^> i soo need a new network card
[08:53] <^Alan^> lol
[08:53] <marc_> Dapper......
[08:53] <fbc> Is there any program that will fix or normalize video files?
[08:53] <DarthVineman> How can I disable it asking for a password when doing things?
[08:53] <julian> anyone know how to crack wep
[08:53] <JosefK> marc_: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[08:53] <rambo3> !paste
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:54] <DarthVineman> It wont let me type my pass in the terminal when prompted
[08:54] <cd32fan> sniff
[08:54] <DarthVineman> It wont accept keystrokes
[08:54] <JosefK> marc_: if you're on i386.  that should install a resticted modules package too
[08:54] <fangorious> DarthVineman, there is no root password by default, you're supposed to use sudo for everything
[08:54] <DarthVineman> Well I use sudo
[08:54] <DarthVineman> Then it asks for a pass
[08:54] <ScreaminIke> darthvineman it will. just type, and it records them quietly, so as not to echo your pw length
[08:54] <JosefK> !root > DarthVineman
[08:54] <DarthVineman> And it wont let me type it
[08:54] <fangorious> DarthVineman, if you're in a terminal and do 'sudo -s' you get a root shell
[08:54] <^Alan^> if anybody can fix a computer with a busted network card ill give you as many ubuntu distro cd's for any version you want free! :)
[08:54] <ladydoor> DarthVineman: you can type it, it just doesn't show up
[08:54] <^Alan^> i tried replacing it..it wont work
[08:54] <POVaddct> DarthVineman: just because there are no '*'s when typing doesnt mean the keystrokes are not read
[08:55] <cyber> lol
[08:55] <DarthVineman> No
[08:55] <DarthVineman> Ive typed it
[08:55] <DarthVineman> And it still wont accept it
[08:55] <variant> junky: sorry mate, i dont think i can help
[08:55] <ladydoor> DarthVineman: that way, people can't even tell how long your password is
[08:55] <fbc> I need to repair damaged video files. Is there any program that will fix or normalize video files?
[08:55] <DarthVineman> No shit
[08:55] <^Alan^> its sooo junked out
[08:55] <cyber> yea it will be blank, type it & hit enter :P
[08:55] <ScreaminIke> su is root. you need to sudo in ubuntu
[08:55] <paolob> Hi guys! I have a dvd ("Karol"), in totem I have sound (music) but no speech. Any hint? thank you!
[08:55] <DarthVineman> This channel is worthless
[08:55] <ScreaminIke> and that will still take them quietly
[08:55] <marc_> Jose....it's downloading now....Kewl stuff..Thanks.
[08:55] <fangorious> DarthVineman, you're typing in the password to your own account, right?
[08:55] <^Alan^> sheesh this place needs some kind of moderation lol
[08:55] <Scribble> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old P2, it is still booting (been on Window Manager for an hour now, but the cdrom is still being acessed).  Should I continue with the loading or should I just try a different linux distro?
[08:55] <ScreaminIke> ... bad attitude
[08:55] <cd32fan> anyone help me,please
[08:55] <^Alan^> people talkin on top of eachother
[08:55] <JosefK> marc_: np's, try rebooting afterwards and (hopefully) your card should appear
[08:55] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:55] <mobal> hello
[08:56] <cyber> yes
[08:56] <JosefK> marc_: if it's a supported card, that is ;)
[08:56] <ladydoor> Scribble: you might check out the alternate install cd
[08:56] <cyber> that happens with 972 users in the channel
[08:56] <cyber> ...
[08:56] <fangorious> what an ass
[08:56] <marc_> Jose...Right oh......Linksys
[08:56] <paolob> Hi guys! I have a dvd ("Karol"), in totem I have sound (music) but no speech. Any hint? thank you!
[08:56] <cyber> brb
[08:56] <ladydoor> !repeat | paolob
[08:56] <ubotu> paolob: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:56] <Scribble> ladydoor: where can I find that?
[08:56] <ladydoor> Scribble: likely the same place you downloaded the livecd
[08:56] <^Alan^> ouch you just got told by the bot
[08:56] <^Alan^> rofl
[08:56] <gtrplr> mornin
[08:57] <ladydoor> Scribble: the livecd is fine for newer machines, but it's not exactly lightweight
[08:57] <junky> variant: no problem, we cant be elite in everything.
[08:57] <JosefK> marc_: if it's pcmcia it's roulette, if it doesn't work, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper - you can use your windows drivers with that
[08:57] <JosefK> np's
[08:57] <cd32fan> so nobody knows huh?
[08:57] <ladydoor> Scribble: so it's not so good or older machines
[08:57] <poningru> cd32fan: what?
[08:57] <fbc> I need to repair damaged video files. Is there any program that will fix or normalize video files?
[08:57] <cd32fan> how i can reset the mouse settings
[08:57] <junky> some1 have an idea how to switch from sound card0 to sound card1 without having to reboot?
[08:57] <cd32fan> the mouse is too fast
[08:57] <printk> cd32fan: in X?
[08:57] <cd32fan> exactly
[08:58] <fangorious> cd32fan, System->Preferences->Mouse
[08:58] <^Alan^> if anybody wants cd's sent to them ill do what i can if your in the USA..im much quicker than ship-it :)
[08:58] <marc_> Jose...I will try the Reboot...it's a PCI....and hope it works..LOL
[08:58] <cd32fan> i wanted to put it to the default values
[08:58] <Vaske_Car> anybody familiar with msttcorefonts  problem?
[08:58] <xipietotec> Question: the kubuntu splash appears over grub, but I've completely purged kdm allready, how do I get rid of it?
[08:58] <poningru> ^Alan^: please do not spam here
[08:58] <cyber> hi
[08:58] <^Alan^> im not spamming poncho1
[08:58] <cd32fan> is there an option for the defaults in X?
[08:58] <cyber> back with Xchat now
[08:58] <JosefK> marc_: okay ;) good luck!
[08:58] <gnomefreak> ^Alan^: yes that is spamming and doesnt belong in here
[08:59] <JosefK> cd32fan: yes, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:59] <deadhobo> Soo... video play is not possible with the NV driver?
[08:59] <^Alan^> no in fact it wasnt..i just said i could send them
[08:59] <JosefK> cd32fan: that will get you your defaults back
[08:59] <printk> mmmm spam
[08:59] <printk> makes me hungry
[08:59] <ink251> alan: you got edgy cds?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> ^Alan^: it is and stop
[08:59] <^Alan^> no its not
[08:59] <fangorious> JosefK, but that won't change his individual mouse settings
[08:59] <loftroffle> hey this seems to be a commonish problem but I can't find the answer... when I try to boot from the 6.06 cd, I get looping buffer i/o errors. anyone know what the deal is? when i google it I just see people with the problem and nobody answering :(
[08:59] <JosefK> fangorious: indeed it won't, but he just asked how to get the default X settings back ;)
[09:00] <cyber> hmm
[09:00] <cyber> come one say my nick please :P
[09:00] <XVampireX> cyber
[09:00] <cyber> need to hear the beep & make sure i know when people are speaking to me
[09:00] <^Alan^> oh wow..cmon now that was just lame...i said i could send them..i didnt say anything else...the guy who wants a pc you should smack him as well im not the only one who's spamming according to what you just did
[09:00] <cyber> no beep :/
[09:00] <fbc> I need to repair damaged video files. Is there any program that will fix or normalize video files?
[09:00] <fangorious> cyber, we're not going to play to your fetish here, that's off-topic
[09:00] <JosefK> fbc: VLC can repair some video files
[09:00] <cyber> lol fangorious
[09:00] <cyber> i was testing the beeper :P
[09:00] <variant> fbc: mplayer/mencoder
[09:00] <cyber> so i hear when people call me in IRC
[09:01] <deadhobo> Does anyone here use the opensource NV driver?
[09:01] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, what's youre msttcorefonts problem?
[09:01] <fbc> JosefK:  How do you tell it to repair.? I've looked for tht option everywhere.
[09:01] <poningru> loftroffle: it could be couple of things, bad cd , bad drive, bad memory etc.
[09:01] <poningru> loftroffle: can you even get to the first boot screen in the cd?
[09:01] <codeyman> is there a time server package  on ubuntu (not ntp-server.. the ones that run on port 37 or 13..old ones)
[09:01] <JosefK> fbc: hmm, I've only seen it pop the option up when I open an obviously corrupt file, never tried to do it manually though, sorry :/
[09:01] <fbc> variant: Is there a specific option in Mplayer for that?
[09:01] <mobal> hey everyone can me help
[09:01] <poningru> mobal: whats wrong?
[09:02] <xipietotec> when using dpgk -l k* how can I make it come up only those that read "ii" and where do I find out what all the letters mean anyways?
[09:02] <mobal> gdm and "question.wav"
[09:02] <fbc> mobal:  = yoda?
[09:02] <loftroffle> poningru: the boot splash screen works fine, it is after I hit "start" that it causes problems
[09:02] <mobal> when i start ubi 6.06 the drum sound missing
[09:02] <variant> fbc: it depends what the probelms are, for exacmple you can rebuild hte index with -idx and you can mke it permanant with mencoder
[09:02] <mobal> :)
[09:02] <poningru> loftroffle: on the boot splash there should be a check cd option
[09:02] <koholint1000> does anyone know how to get a creative zen micro photo mounted and up+running with amarok. I am using ubuntu.
[09:02] <cyber> ahhh
[09:02] <codeyman> time server anyone?
[09:02] <poningru> loftroffle: try that
[09:02] <fangorious> xipietotec, pipe the output to 'grep ^ii'
[09:02] <cyber> how do i turn off the beeping :/
[09:02] <JosefK> xipietotec: if you mean at the start of the line, "dpkg -l k* | egrep '^ii'" would do the trick
[09:02] <mobal> everyone?
[09:02] <loftroffle> poningru: just finished it a couple of minutes ago, cd is fine
[09:02] <cyber> it beeps every time some one says some thing
[09:02] <codeyman> cyber: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[09:03] <cyber> how do you turn of the beep that happens when some one says some thing
[09:03] <poningru> loftroffle: hmm, can you try booting something else?
[09:03] <cyber> off*
[09:03] <cyber> with xchat
[09:03] <poningru> loftroffle: weird
[09:03] <fbc> variant:  what 's the best video player for linux? Some say XMMS , and other something else..
[09:03] <poningru> because if it was able to check cd...
[09:03] <loftroffle> poningru: i already have a couple of windows versions on the drive that boot fine
[09:03] <fangorious> mobal, System->administration->Login window
[09:03] <mobal> yes
[09:03] <mobal> but it not works
[09:03] <sommere__> does anyone know why libnetfilter_conntrack doesn't work under ubuntu? same functions work fine on fc5
[09:03] <printk> mobal: and your sound is working?
[09:03] <fangorious> mobal, does sound work?
[09:03] <mobal> with sudo gdmsetup works but i can sudo logi
[09:03] <poningru> fbc: whats the best car in the world for working class people?
[09:04] <mobal> yes my sound works fine
[09:04] <loftroffle> hmm i am trying for a third time and I think it got farther
[09:04] <poningru> fbc: its upto the person
[09:04] <JosefK> poningru: the trebant
[09:04] <printk> mobal: you do realize question is just a short drum that only pops up when GDM has loaded and is ready... not a huge deal :)
[09:04] <xipietotec> Josephk: that doesn't execute for some reason, just keeps going to a new line
[09:04] <gnomefreak> poningru: wrong channel for that
[09:04] <poningru> fbc: try them all out
[09:04] <printk> mobal: do you hear the intro song after you login"?
[09:04] <Vaske_Car> !tell about msttcorefonts
[09:04] <poningru> gnomefreak: I was making a point re: whats the best video player
[09:04] <mobal> yes i hear :)
[09:04] <fbc> poningru: volkswagon bug..
[09:04] <gnomefreak> i saw it after i siad it
[09:04] <junky> how can i use that sound card: root@troy:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:04] <junky> 1 [board          ] : ATIIXP - ATI IXP
[09:04] <loftroffle> oh no I spoke too soon
[09:04] <junky> instead of the card 0 i had before.
[09:04] <poningru> ok that was rhetorical question
[09:04] <printk> mobal: can you play question.wav by it self?
[09:04] <koholint1000> does anyone know how to get a creative zen micro photo mounted and up+running with amarok? I am using ubuntu.
[09:04] <JosefK> xipietotec: if it isn't at the start of the line, it wouldn't
[09:05] <fbc> poningru:  the shear number of years produced and still used tell the story..
[09:05] <loftroffle> it says "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System" then starts looping the buffer i/o error
[09:05] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, when i install packages it report that it could not install msttcorefonts
[09:05] <poningru> dont answer it
[09:05] <JosefK> xipietotec: if you want to catch all 'ii' anywhere in the line, just 'grep ii' would do
[09:05] <lakcaj> fbc, xmms is not a video player.  Try mplayer or xine.  I actually used to prefer mplayer, but I'm really liking xine right now, along with libdvdcss2, libdvdnav4, and xine-extracodecs
[09:05] <mobal> when i start gdmsetp i press the play button in the login manager but not works
[09:05] <mobal> when i start with sudo gdmestup works
[09:05] <lakcaj> fbc, vlc is also something to try too
[09:05] <fbc> lakcaj:  aweseom that's I'll try it..
[09:05] <fangorious> mobal, sounds like the user gdm runs as doesn't have permission to play sounds
[09:06] <printk> is gdm in the audio group?
[09:06] <printk> the user gdm
[09:06] <xipietotec> JosefK: the "ii" isn't actually in the name of the file, it's a descriptor that dpkg uses to denote installed
[09:06] <mobal> audio group what is that? :d
[09:06] <mobal> :D
[09:06] <mobal> what must i do?
[09:06] <fbc> lakcaj:  I got it, and it works well, however it doesn't play wmv's very well even after installing the restrcited formats with easy ubuntu.
[09:06] <printk> not sure if that's necessary actually, gdm is not in audio for me and i still hear it
[09:06] <lakcaj> fbc, to get some of those packages, good for adding extra repositories, like the plf repos.  If you want, pm me in here with your email addy and I'll email you my sources.list file with the few extra repos you have to enable
[09:06] <fangorious> printk, same here
[09:07] <lakcaj> fbc, you installed w32codecs?
[09:07] <fbc> lakcaj:  yup..
[09:07] <lakcaj> hrmmm - mplayer has always been able to play any wmv I've thrown at it
[09:07] <fbc> lakcaj:  I still can't see wmv with shit..
[09:08] <Hooveyy> !language
[09:08] <fbc> lakcaj:  with = worth
[09:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:08] <eck0> hi
[09:08] <elfstone> i have a question how to add full rw access to XFS partition. uid and user= doesnt work with xfs
[09:08] <cyber> !ohmy
[09:08] <cyber> :P
[09:08] <koholint1000> yes, LANGUAGE!!!  lol
[09:08] <fbc> whoops.... my bad..
[09:08] <fangorious> fbc: if it's encrypted wmv (drm) i don't think anything in linux can play it
[09:08] <printk> man gnome-terminal in 2.16 with true transparency is awsome :)
[09:08] <fbc>  all the sub 13 yerolds on the channel say "I"..
[09:08] <eck0> quick question, when i try to load off my cd it goes thru the check list with ok ok ok etc. but after that it goes to a black screen
[09:09] <koholint1000> everyone here seems to be asking questions
[09:09] <fangorious> really?
[09:09] <koholint1000> there seem to be no-one answering
[09:09] <fbc> fangorious: nope they aren't they are just the joke emails everyone mails around..
[09:09] <eck0> anyone else had that problem?
[09:09] <printk> koholint1000: start anwsering than
[09:09] <koholint1000> he?
[09:09] <fangorious> koholint1000, we can only answer what we know
[09:09] <koholint1000> *me?
[09:09] <printk> koholint1000: why not?
[09:09] <koholint1000> i now, im just saying
[09:09] <koholint1000> *know
[09:09] <eck0> so i take it no 1 has had that problem/
[09:10] <Scorpmoon> how do I clone a directory in ubuntu
[09:10] <poningru> eck0: make sure your cd is ok... from the boot splash screen check cd
[09:10] <Scorpmoon> cp dir dir2 ?
[09:10] <ladydoor> Scorpmoon: cp -a dir newdir
[09:10] <Scorpmoon> ok
[09:10] <fangorious> fbc do you know what version of wmv codec they are encoded in?
[09:10] <printk> Scorpmoon: clone?  You can copy (using cp -R) or you can create a softlink (ln -s)
[09:10] <nolimitsoya> eck0, try safe graphics mode
[09:10] <[Daniel] > Scorpmoon, cp -a dir newdir
[09:10] <eck0> i did
[09:10] <[Daniel] > Oh
[09:10] <[Daniel] > :)
[09:10] <nolimitsoya> eck0, then try alternate install cd
[09:11] <eck0> ive used 3 cd's
[09:11] <fbc> fangorious:  I just followed the commands in the restrictied formats page...
[09:11] <eck0> im using alcohol 120 to burn the iso
[09:11] <ladydoor> Scorpmoon: you want to use a link if you want changes to one dir to effect the others as well
[09:11] <poningru> eck0: did you burn them?
[09:11] <eck0> should i use something else?
[09:11] <fangorious> eck0, try burning at a slower speed
[09:11] <Scorpmoon> that's not the case
[09:11] <fbc> fangorious:  they make you cut and paste like two lines into your terminal
[09:11] <ladydoor> Scorpmoon: use cp if you want them to be separate (as for backups)
[09:11] <madflax> How do I get the terminal windows to get transparent?
[09:11] <eck0> fang was that toward me?
[09:11] <loftroffle> ugh not even safe mode is fixing this :sigh:
[09:11] <JosefK> marc_: any luck?
[09:11] <nolimitsoya> eck0, have you checked the cd for defects?
[09:11] <poningru> loftroffle: whats wrong?
[09:12] <eck0> yep
[09:12] <printk> madflax: well true transparency you need a composit window manager... but to get just transparency with gnome-terminal you go to Edit->Current profiles
[09:12] <marc_> JOse..Nope....
[09:12] <eck0> 0 it says
[09:12] <printk> and i think there is an effects tab
[09:12] <fbc> fangorious:  one that downloads the package and the other that installs it..
[09:12] <eck0> could it be my bideo card?
[09:12] <loftroffle> i just tried safe mode and it still doesn't work :(
[09:12] <fangorious> eck0, you said you'd used 3 cds, so i thought you were burning some iso image and it was consistently failing
[09:12] <JosefK> marc_: ack :( if it still isn't showing up even under 'iwconfig', it mustn't be supported
[09:12] <eck0> oh no
[09:12] <eck0> i used 1 with the 64 bit
[09:12] <Apeiron> hey all :) i have a little problem with ubuntu server.. i just installed it on a rather old machine, and now im trying to boot.. grub is outputting the normal stuff (where the kernel image is and so on) and then "boot" and after that the screen turns black and the machine is rebooting.. any suggestions about this strange behaviour? thx for help in advance :)
[09:12] <eck0> 2 with 32 bits
[09:12] <poningru> eck0: when it goes black press ctrl+shift+f1
[09:12] <Lubix> i can not figure out how to do mathematical operation with parameter sent in from the command line in bash HELP!
[09:12] <marc_> JOse...I will check.
[09:12] <JosefK> marc_: if you see an entry for a wireless card in 'iwconfig' though, 'sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome' should be all you need
[09:13] <printk> madflax: difference between true transparency and transparency being, with true you will see everything behind the window, icons other windows etc... regular transparency only shows your desktop background
[09:13] <eck0>  crtl shift f1? what does that do
[09:13] <junky> ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[09:13] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, this is the error I am getting:  http://pastebin.ca/215652
[09:13] <poningru> !bash > Lubix
[09:13] <junky> how can i use card 1 and not 0?
[09:13] <printk> madflax: but Edit->Current Profile->Effects to turn on transparency
[09:13] <poningru> !tell Lubix about bash
[09:13] <poningru> is ubotu not working?
[09:13] <madflax> printk, where do I find edit?
[09:13] <printk> madflax: this is with gnome-terminal
[09:13] <niklas_e> which files can you set so when you login in ubuntu so it starts lineakd?
[09:13] <printk> madflax: also i'm using edgy so it's Gnome 2.16
[09:14] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, all I see there is the 7 line license message for the fonts
[09:14] <eck0> so what does crtl+shift+f1 do?
[09:14] <marc_> Jose...no wirless extension found....*POUTS*
[09:14] <poningru> eck0: switches you to non-gui
[09:14] <printk> no that's ctrl+alt+F1
[09:14] <poningru> eck0: to make sure its not your X server thats failing
[09:14] <loftroffle> but yeah poningru my hard drives seem to work fine. windows vista boots, and i've installed gentoo and even ubuntu before. i'm really stumped what the problem is here :(
[09:14] <poningru> err right
[09:14] <eck0> ok ill brb
[09:14] <poningru> what printk said
[09:14] <printk> :)
[09:14] <RichiH> when will the next version of ubuntu be released?
[09:14] <eck0> so what am i looking for
[09:14] <eck0> so i can report
[09:14] <poningru> eck0: ctrl+alt+f1
[09:14] <RichiH> it is beta right now, nay?
[09:14] <[Daniel] > niklas_e, try System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs
[09:14] <printk> RichiH: 26th
[09:14] <ginerc> "no DHCPOFFERS received" -- ubuntu can't use the internet?? It works fine on windows... help :(
[09:15] <madflax> printk, ok.. im using edgy aswell.. but how do I get true transpericy?
[09:15] <concept10> \quit
[09:15] <eck0> brb all
[09:15] <printk> madflax: go to the wiki and look BerylOnEdgy
[09:15] <JonBoon> im just now installing 6, im way behind
[09:15] <poningru> loftroffle: hmm I will go with the cd going bad
[09:15] <marc_> Jose is there a list that I can look at that would help me purchase a wireless card that would be supported?
[09:15] <fangorious> ginerc, i'll ask the obvious, you have a dhcp server on your network?
[09:15] <loftroffle> poningru like I said, it checks out fine =\
[09:15] <printk> madflax: that will tell you how to use beryl, once you have a composit window manager running you can have true transparency
[09:15] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, check this out http://pastebin.ca/215655
[09:15] <poningru> loftroffle: I mean cd drive
[09:15] <ginerc> yes
[09:15] <Lubix> poningru: bash ! part of ubuntu?
[09:15] <ginerc> It use to work fine...
[09:16] <loftroffle> well I'll try the other drive then see if that gets me anywhere
[09:16] <ginerc> I have spent an hour going through all the related threads on the forum messing with settings
[09:16] <wikijeff> For some reason Ubuntu will no longer boot for me. It hangs during the startup process at "Starting System Log...". After a little while it exists graphical mode and enters the text mode where it will wait indefinitely. Any idea of how to fix this?
[09:16] <ginerc> Some guy who had the same problem fixed it by having the same computer name but that didn't work.
[09:16] <madflax> printk, ok.. thanks
[09:16] <RichiH> printk: is that certain?
[09:16] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, try 'apt-get install msttcorefonts' first
[09:16] <printk> ginerc: your ubuntu machine can't get an IP from the DHCP server or is it acting as your DHCP server?
[09:16] <printk> RichiH: not sure
[09:17] <poningru> ginerc: how is your network setup?
[09:17] <RichiH> printk: my gf needs to burn dvd and bring it to india, so i need to plan ahead :p
[09:17] <printk> RichiH: ah
[09:17] <ginerc> printk: it just says "no DHCPOFFERS received" so it can't get an IP, I typed in the DHCP server that we use
[09:17] <fangorious> ginerc, the linux machine is dual-boot with windows?
[09:17] <ginerc> yes
[09:17] <ginerc> and windows works fine with the same DHCP server and computer name
[09:17] <ginerc> ubunut use to work fine on the internet also but it can't even ping anything now
[09:17] <niklas_e> I am running enlightenment so I can't get into that program, you know what it is called?
[09:18] <printk> ginerc: sounds more like an issue with your DHCP server than ubuntu
[09:18] <ginerc> printk: but it works fine on windows...?
[09:18] <printk> *shrugs*
[09:18] <ginerc> :(
[09:18] <fangorious> ginerc, have you tried configuring a static ip just to see if that works
[09:18] <printk> what is your DHCP server?
[09:18] <rockzman> Can anyone tell me
[09:18] <printk> is it just a home router?
[09:18] <ginerc> fangorious: yes and it didn't
[09:18] <rockzman> X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
[09:18] <rockzman> Why this error
[09:18] <ginerc> printk: it's a big network
[09:19] <printk> ginerc: after you setup a static, did you also setup your /etc/resolv.conf for name resolution?
[09:19] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, http://pastebin.ca/215659
[09:19] <ginerc> printk: no
[09:19] <loftroffle> ugh same errors
[09:19] <loftroffle> i guess i'll start disconnecting hard drives :sigh:
[09:19] <ginerc> I tried using the ubuntu Live CD and that also doesn't work on the internet
[09:20] <printk> ginerc: well you need that setup before you can resolve a hostname anyway.   just put nameserver <ip of your gateway or DNS resolver> without the '<' '>' in your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:20] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, i assume your internet connection on the machine you want msttcorefonts on is ok
[09:20] <ginerc> printk: I used the Network toool thing under Administrator to enter in the DNS server
[09:20] <printk> ginerc: well it does "work on the internet' millions do it :)  We just need to figure out why your private network isn't getting a connection
[09:20] <printk> ok
[09:20] <rockzman> ls
[09:20] <TehUni> i just upgraded from dapper to edgy. Everything seems to have gone smoothly except that my secondary video card (ati) no longer displays anything. where should start?
[09:20] <printk> yah i'm old school, i hardly use ubuntu's "way" of configuring things.... I trust myself more :)
[09:21] <ginerc> printk: shouldn't it work with the live cd..? ubuntu works fine on my home connection
[09:21] <poningru> printk: hehe I hear that
[09:21] <printk> ginerc: it's so hard to say without knowing how your network is setup
[09:21] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, i have a kind of problem whyen I browse the internet it need 6-7 seconds to open pages... btw this is 3 hour old installation of Ubuntu
[09:21] <printk> poningru: :)
[09:21] <junky> root@troy:/home/junky# aplay foo.mp3
[09:21] <junky> ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[09:21] <junky> how can i fix that issue? i need to use the card 1
[09:21] <ginerc> printk: well how do I go about troubleshooting the issue further then?
[09:21] <tsoler> hello hello
[09:22] <tsoler> anyone willing to help?
[09:22] <poningru> junky: does that happen with every sound player?
[09:22] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, what happens if you copy/paste the URLs from the apt-get output into a web browser?
[09:22] <poningru> like mplayer
[09:22] <[Daniel] > tsoler, everyone is willing :)
[09:22] <tsoler> thanks daniel
[09:22] <junky> poningru: yes, and i know i just need to use card 1
[09:22] <variant> ginerc: if you type dhclient eth0 what happnes?
[09:23] <jbmigel> tsoler whats you problem again i just dropped in
[09:23] <junky> how can i say: hey use card 1 instead of card 0 ?
[09:23] <tsoler> where can i find the proper driver for my card?
[09:23] <printk> ginerc: first off are you trying to connect wireless or "wired"?
[09:23] <jbmigel> tsoler what is your card
[09:23] <fangorious> ginerc, my first thought is MAC address filtering, but if windows works on that same machine, then that probably isn't the problem
[09:23] <ginerc> variant: I'm dual booting so I'd have to go test it. when I do  sudo ifdown eth0  it just gets the "no DHCPOFFERS recieved" msg
[09:23] <tsoler> graphic card
[09:23] <Speeder2> anyone here with dell poweredge / perc raid cards?
[09:23] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, it can not download... http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe
[09:23] <poningru> Speeder2: yeah whatsup?
[09:23] <jbmigel> tsoler do you happen to know what kind of grap
[09:24] <fangorious> ginerc, ifup is what you use to connect, ifdown disconnects
[09:24] <printk> ginerc: why are you bringing the interface down?
[09:24] <jbmigel> tsoler do you happen to know what kind of graphic card
[09:24] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, is it working on your side?
[09:24] <tsoler> intel is my keyboard
[09:24] <ginerc> I know I bring it down then bring it up...
[09:24] <junky> poningru: i saw a -D option with aplay, but dunno how to use it exactly.
[09:24] <tsoler> i assumem its intel??
[09:24] <jbmigel> tsoler who cares what your keyboard is
[09:24] <Speeder2> pon: have you found any raid managment soft for megaraid?
[09:24] <variant> ginerc: ok
[09:24] <printk> ginerc: sudo ifup eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0 what does that do?
[09:24] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, doesn't seem to be
[09:24] <Speeder2> i don't have autocomplete :(
[09:24] <jbmigel> tsoler can you please run "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell me the output
[09:24] <xipietotec> !edgy
[09:24] <ginerc> printk: is it worth restarting to test that out...? I just have the one comp
[09:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:25] <tsoler> soory ,my card was precompiled with keyboard
[09:25] <printk> ginerc: try doing another static and manually adding your route and /etc/resolv.conf
[09:25] <xipietotec> !upgrade
[09:25] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:25] <poningru> junky: hmm hold on
[09:25] <Speeder2> !schedule
[09:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:25] <fangorious> Vaske_Car, here's the homepage for the corefonts project, http://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts
[09:25] <ginerc> printk: this setup works fine on a different network so I'm thinking it's not granting me an IP under ubuntu for some reason
[09:25] <poningru> !audio
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <tsoler> jbmigel
[09:25] <jbmigel> tsoler
[09:25] <printk> ginerc: wireless ?
[09:25] <ginerc> printk: it's a university network
[09:25] <tsoler> there is a device manager on ubuntu?
[09:26] <jbmigel> tsoler can you please run "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell me the output
[09:26] <printk> ginerc: yes i know but i mean you, are you connecting wireless or wired?
[09:26] <MrBond82> jbmidel- are you trying to help someone get xgl/compiz going?
[09:26] <ginerc> printk: with an ethernet cable so wired
[09:26] <jbmigel> MrBond82 no
[09:26] <poningru> junky: yeah I dont know sorry dude
[09:26] <Xzallion> tsoler: Ubuntu's device manager is in System>Administration>Device Manager
[09:26] <tsoler> give the command again please
[09:26] <lietu> anyone know why the display resolution change dialog always only has one option for both resolution and refresh rate?
[09:26] <jbmigel> tsoler can you please run "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell me the output
[09:26] <eck0> didnt work
[09:26] <printk> ginerc: ok... hrm weird.... Maybe contact the school network admin to see?
[09:27] <junky> poningru: im trying to figure out, since 3h now :(
[09:27] <qid> is it possible for ubuntu to auto-detect when an external monitor is plugged into a laptop and use it as a second display?
[09:27] <ginerc> printk: they said they don't support nonwindows computers
[09:27] <Vaske_Car> fangorious, do you know why fangorious, thanks
[09:27] <Vaske_Car> ...
[09:27] <poningru> qid: yes from dapper it should just work
[09:27] <Vaske_Car> done
[09:27] <poningru> you have to press the switch monitor button for your laptop
[09:27] <ginerc> printk: I had it working before but it stopped a while ago ...
[09:27] <qid> not really
[09:27] <printk> ginerc: well... do they use any kind of authentication for DHCP?
[09:27] <poningru> qid: make sure you have it plugged in when you start up the comp
[09:27] <ginerc> printk: well we had to login the first time we used the internet so I think so
[09:28] <qid> it mirrors part of my existing display in a goofy resolution
[09:28] <poningru> oh
[09:28] <eck0> wenever i try and load off my cd it doesnt work, it goes thru its whole check list etc, bt then it tried to go to the next screen and goesblack and there isnt anything i can do
[09:28] <poningru> qid: oh you want it as a dual display?
[09:28] <qid> poningru: that's an ugly workaround
[09:28] <tsoler> here is the results direct rendering: No
[09:28] <tsoler> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:28] <tsoler> tsoler@tsoler-desktop:~$
[09:28] <qid> I would prefer it if the external monitor is not a mirror of the primary display
[09:28] <printk> ginerc: well that'd be something you'd need to find out if you need some sort of authentication to get a DHCP offer.  There really could be 100s of reasons why you won't get a DHCP offer.
[09:29] <poningru> qid: do you know what kind of vid card you are using?
[09:29] <tsoler> any clue?
[09:29] <qid> this is a laptop running 1280x800 resolution, I'd be plugging into either an LCD running 1280x1024 or a projector running 1024x768
[09:29] <ginerc> printk: are there no other debug messages other than "no DHCPOFFERS received" ... ? it use to work so I don't see why it would just stop
[09:29] <qid> either way mirroring the display is not going to work right
[09:29] <MrBond82> qid - I wish I could afford a projector that has that kind of resolution in it
[09:29] <eck0> poningru: it didnt work
[09:29] <tsoler> jb migel any clue?
[09:29] <qid> I can't either, it's at school
[09:29] <CapnWhizBang> I'm been having trouble with a usb audio interface. My woes are described here.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282217 need help please.
[09:30] <qid> I want to use this laptop to give class presentations
[09:30] <jbmigel> tsoler try this one now "lspci | grep Graphics" it will tell you what graphics you have
[09:30] <MrBond82> qid -- I need that too... can I join in teh conversation?
[09:30] <poningru> qid: did you not see my question?
[09:30] <ginerc> printk: I also have two ubuntu entries under GRUB which is weird and one detects my ethernet card while the other does not
[09:30] <eck0> could my video card be a problem??
[09:30] <junky>  /quit
[09:30] <Clinton__> alright, it seems I am unable to play some avi files and some wmv files in mplayer or kaffeine, which video codecs and their package names am I missing?
[09:30] <qid> poningru: I did, hold on a second
[09:30] <Clinton__> I have w32codecs for sure
[09:30] <MrBond82> poningru- he does
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, have you followed the guide?
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> !ati
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <loftroffle> poningru: it seems as if one of my hard drives was the problem for some bizarre reason
[09:30] <KenSentMe> I installed java, like said on the help.ubuntu.com pages, but firefox still asks to install the 'missing' jave plugin. Anyone have an idea what to do?
[09:30] <loftroffle> i disconnected one, then the other and now it works
[09:31] <poningru> eck0: so what happens when you press ctrl+alt+f1?
[09:31] <tsoler> no not all nolimitsoya
[09:31] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, please do :)
[09:31] <printk> ginerc: well, make sure you boot the one that does detect :)  Also, try manually "sudo dhclient eth0" (after making sure the interface is up with ifup ofcourse)  Come back and tell us what that says
[09:31] <lietu> anyone know why the display resolution change dialog always has only one option for both resolution and refresh rate? as in, what could be causing that and how to get the full range for both available?
[09:31] <qid> poningru: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]  (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[09:31] <nolimitsoya> youll be running 3dacc in no time :)
[09:31] <jbmigel> nolimitsoya why are you pointing him to the guide before you know what card he has
[09:31] <tsoler> u mean the captive guide??
[09:31] <poningru> hmm hold on then
[09:31] <nolimitsoya> jbmigel, i assume he knows himself ;)
[09:31] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to set up the driver for my Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG card. I've set up the ieee80211 subsystem and am trying to make the driver, but make gives me the error "No rule to make target `modules.'" Any help? Full paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27867/
[09:31] <ginerc> printk: ok I'll reboot and try that
[09:31] <jbmigel> nolimitsoya well he doesnt... he said it was precompiled with his keyboard when i asked
[09:31] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no, the guide the bot links to when doing !ati
[09:32] <poningru> qid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, get the manual for your computer
[09:32] <Clinton__> alright, it seems I am unable to play some avi files and some wmv files in mplayer or kaffeine, which video codecs and their package names am I missing?  I have w32codecs for sure.
[09:32] <tsoler> what are we talking about:)?
[09:32] <jbmigel> tsoler try this one now "lspci | grep Graphics" it will tell you what graphics you have
[09:32] <Tinned_Tuna> about:mozilla
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you graphicscard
[09:32] <tsoler> ok
[09:32] <tsoler> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[09:33] <poningru> !tell Clinton__ about restricted
[09:33] <tsoler> its intel i told you haha
[09:33] <poningru> Clinton__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:33] <Clinton__> thx
[09:33] <jbmigel> nolimitsoya do you see what good the ati/nvidia help file is for now?
[09:33] <printk> !restricted > printk
[09:33] <printk> ok that format works
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> :)
[09:34] <printk> !tell printk about restricted
[09:34] <fangorious> is there something known about xgl+compiz that disables the gnome-keybindings?
[09:34] <eck0> can i get some help plz
[09:34] <eck0> i cant be hte only ojne with this problem
[09:34] <jbmigel> tsoler your intel graphics should *just work* have you been messing with your xorg.conf?
[09:34] <Tinned_Tuna> it would help if you said what your problem is...
[09:34] <tsoler> it works fine
[09:34] <eck0> any time itry to install the OS it goes thru the check list for laoding then it goes to a black screen
[09:34] <printk> eck0: did you wait long enough, might be a dumb question.  But for me, i get a blank screen for a few minutes but eventually it does come up (on the livecd )
[09:35] <tsoler> but not with google...
[09:35] <gh0st> hello, does anyone know how to do this check pattern in nautilus, like here: http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/111/0/3/Tempura_Theme_by_Lokheed.png?
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, i think thats a knows problem...
[09:35] <Newbi8> Hello!:) Does anyone know how I can get transluscent windows in Ubu
[09:35] <eck0> oh i waited a few
[09:35] <eck0> ill try again and leave it
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> you mean google earth, right?
[09:35] <tsoler> yes
[09:35] <eck0> beb abck and thanks
[09:36] <printk> Newbi8: using gnome, I think you need a composite manager installed.  Check out BerylOnEdgy at wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <tsoler> you mean everyone here is having the same issue?
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> i thank thats a known problem, and nothing anyone kan do anything about
[09:36] <poningru> gh0st: what do you want to do?
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes
[09:36] <qid> poningru: so, I'll have to manually edit xorg.conf whenever I want to use an external monitor?
[09:36] <printk> Newbi8: try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:36] <Newbi8> Printk:Tk
[09:36] <poningru> qid: you dont have to do it everytime
[09:36] <tsoler> damn
[09:36] <brett> Ok... all of the sudden my DVD drive has crapped out...  any way to tell if it is hardware vs software?
[09:36] <poningru> qid: just once is enough if its the same monitor
[09:36] <gh0st> poningru: you know, the background of nautilus, like in the screenshot
[09:36] <Newbi8> Printk:Thanks!:)
[09:36] <poningru> oh
[09:36] <printk> Newbi8: np
[09:36] <tsoler> and ithought this would be easier to start with
[09:37] <poningru> gh0st: hold on
[09:37] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you realy want it, a "good"(=adequate) graphicscard is only a few dollars these days
[09:37] <XVampireX> Hey, I'm having these errors whenever I try to compile something: http://pastebin.ca/215700
[09:37] <tsoler> if i change card im solving google earth??
[09:37] <qid> poningru: how do I determine the identifier for the monitor then?
[09:37] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes
[09:38] <poningru> gh0st: edit->background and emblems
[09:38] <tsoler> why so?
[09:38] <gh0st> poningru: where?
[09:38] <madflax> as the newset alsa drivers been backported to edgy?
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, a geforce mx4000 is only ~40$
[09:38] <madflax> has*
[09:38] <gh0st> poningru: ok
[09:38] <XVampireX> Hey, I'm having these errors whenever I try to compile something: http://pastebin.ca/215700
[09:38] <DarthVineman> How can I login as root on the desktop? Im trying to use Archive Manager to extract to a directory but it says I dont have permission
[09:39] <CapnWhizBang> does anyone know anything about getting usb audio to work?
[09:39] <tsoler> dont know about cards
[09:39] <madflax> DarthVineman, sudo
[09:39] <jbmigel> DartgVineman sudo su
[09:39] <printk> DarthVineman: you can sudo -i
[09:39] <Scorpmoon> how do i rmdir a nonempty dir
[09:39] <DarthVineman> That only logs me in for the terminal
[09:39] <printk> Scorpmoon: rm -rf
[09:39] <fangorious> Scorpmoon, 'rm -rf dir'
[09:39] <ladydoor> DarthVineman: you can do gksudo nautilus to open a file manager window as root
[09:39] <poningru> qid: from teh device manager
[09:39] <XVampireX> Hey, I'm having these errors whenever I try to compile something: http://pastebin.ca/215700
[09:39] <tsoler> why so although? seems like ubuntu is coming compliled with few drivers??
[09:40] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, its intels fault, not ubuntus
[09:40] <fangorious> DarthVineman, use 'nautilus --no-desktop' to avoid reloading the whole desktop
[09:40] <jbmigel> XVampireX i see no errors in your paste
[09:40] <XVampireX> the warning
[09:40] <XVampireX> It shouldn't happen
[09:40] <jbmigel> why shoudnt it?
[09:40] <tsoler> please let explain to me
[09:40] <mythicH> Hi. I have a question. How do I associate .phtml files with firefox so that it will open them instead of attempt to download them?
[09:40] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, intel fu their drivers/cards. ubuntu cant do anything about that :)
[09:40] <MrBond82> does ubuntu have an out-of-the-box solution for compiz yet or do you need to tweak the hell out of files to get it to work?
[09:40] <XVampireX> Because I was able to compile it last time, and now it doesn't and this is the source of the problem, something is wrong with my automake
[09:41] <joona> mythicH: you can't, it's webservers job
[09:41] <poningru> MrBond82: it does have a out of the box
[09:41] <ginerc> printk: Ok I tried it and got the same result -- http://paste-bin.com/1069
[09:41] <jbmigel> XVampireX a warning shouldnt stop it from compiling... are you sure there is no real error further down?
[09:41] <mythicH> joona: Oh... okay, well it's my webserver (phpmyadmin for mysql)... How would I change that?
[09:41] <ginerc> printk:  "no DHCPOFFERS received" essentially
[09:42] <printk> let me see
[09:42] <ubuntu> hi
[09:42] <tsoler> sory nolie what do u mean?
[09:42] <XVampireX> in ./autogen.sh no, in make, it won't let me compile, for example, in this case, libmpd and gmpc
[09:42] <DarthVineman> fangorious: I still get a permission error
[09:42] <qid> poningru: I looked in the device manager and see nothing identifying any monitors
[09:42] <fangorious> DarthVineman, have you tried 'gksudo file-roller'
[09:42] <jbmigel> XVampireX can you paste the error?
[09:42] <tsoler> intel asks too much for the drivers?
[09:42] <Rico-> hey: is there a way i can download certain edgy packages without upgrading my entire system?
[09:42] <ubuntu> cao ljudi sat ima
[09:42] <joona> mythicH: check your apache conf for line... AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[09:42] <XVampireX> jbmigel, ok, sec
[09:42] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that intel cards cant do the things that they have to, in order for them to use things lika google earth
[09:42] <Rico-> without waiting for backports i mean
[09:42] <joona> and add .phtml to the list
[09:43] <printk> ginerc: yah hrm... wierd man.  I apologize, but not sure exactly where to go from there.... If i knew how your university's network is setup I could assit further. :(
[09:43] <lietu> anyone know why the display resolution change dialog always has only one option for both resolution and refresh rate? as in, what could be causing that and how to get the full range for both available?
[09:43] <bart416_> Oh gosh, I'm here again
[09:43] <bart416_> Great timing for my mp3 player to mess up
[09:43] <XVampireX> jbmigel, http://pastebin.ca/215620 and http://pastebin.ca/215626
[09:43] <printk> ginerc: maybe try to find other fellow linux users at your university?
[09:43] <joona> mythicH: so it reads AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[09:43] <bart416_> How do you format something in ubuntu ?
[09:43] <ginerc> printk: yeah no one on the forums knew how to fix it either, thanks for your help though :\
[09:43] <tsoler> but i use the same card on windows . no prob
[09:43] <joona> bart416_: mkfs
[09:43] <ginerc> printk: i don't think there are any! :)
[09:43] <sean> How do I install a 32 bit version of libX11.so.6 on my 64bit os to get doom3 to (finally) run?
[09:43] <MrBond82> poningru - how do you get dapper to use compiz-gnome ?
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes, but intel havent fixed drivers for linux, which they have to. :)
[09:44] <printk> ginerc: it definitely seems like something on your university's end.   Oh I'm sure there are a bunch of users ... :)  Or ask a CS prof
[09:44] <tsoler> ok
[09:44] <fangorious> DarthVineman, is  the archive something you can extract from the command line (.zip, .tar.gz, or .tar.bzip2, etc)?
[09:44] <zMott> well, thought I would as, what is the best irc client (gui ) for gnome..
[09:44] <DarthVineman> its a .tar.gz
[09:44] <ginerc> printk: yeah it is the unversity's network for sure :\
[09:44] <poningru> MrBond82: oh that requires a bunch of... configuring
[09:44] <DarthVineman> Im trying to extract it to /opt
[09:44] <DarthVineman> But it wont let me
[09:44] <poningru> MrBond82: you should upgrade to edgy
[09:44] <DarthVineman> And it wont let me login as root via desktop
[09:44] <DarthVineman> Which is what I need to be able to do
[09:45] <XVampireX> jbmigel, I don't have any errors in compiling libmpd, but when I compile gmpc it gives errors related to libmpd, the author of gmpc doesn't know what's wrong with it...
[09:45] <Scorpmoon> does ubuntu server (LAMP) come with phpMyAdmin installed?
[09:45] <fangorious> Mr_Magic, join #ubuntu-xgl and check out the CompositeManager wiki page listed in the topic
[09:45] <poningru> !sudo
[09:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:45] <MrBond82> poninguru-- will it become out of the box with edgy?
[09:45] <joe__> soo, skype (and audacity, etc) only work with /dev/dsp directly (for bad reasons) instead of through alsa which I think is better because then they don't block each other -- how do i fix alsa?
[09:45] <poningru> MrBond82: no you still have to install couple of packages
[09:45] <karabatak>  who know callback configuration for wvdial?
[09:45] <XVampireX> joe__, No, skype works with alsa
[09:45] <fangorious> DarthVineman, what are you trying to unarchive?
[09:45] <jbmigel> XVampireX could it be you have the wrong version of libmpd?
[09:45] <DarthVineman> xampp-linux-1.5.4a.tar.gz
[09:45] <mythicH> joona: Perfect. Thank you. I assume I now have to restart apache? How does that happen.
[09:45] <poningru> MrBond82: but its very easy to intall
[09:45] <joe__> XVampireX: i understand, but it only works for me with /dev/dsp, hwo do i make it work with alsa
[09:45] <XVampireX> jbmigel, how come?
[09:46] <XVampireX> joe__, In skype settings
[09:46] <MrBond82> poningru-- I know but do I have to start mucking about my config files like I did in dogey- I mean dapper?
[09:46] <tsoler> so u say that there is not a driver update problem like google prompts me??
[09:46] <XVampireX> jbmigel, just a sec
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no
[09:46] <bart416_> This is so messed up:
[09:46] <bart416_> bart@Raven:/media/usbdisk$ sudo fdisk /media/usbdisk
[09:46] <poningru> MrBond82: dont think so hold on let me point you to the guide
[09:46] <bart416_> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[09:46] <bart416_> Unable to read /media/usbdisk
[09:46] <poningru> !compiz
[09:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:46] <joe__> XVampireX: when i set it to work with alsa, it doesn't work, when i set it towrk with /dev/dsp, it works
[09:46] <dcordes> how can i monitor all connected devices when i am inside a windows network with smb?
[09:47] <XVampireX> joe__, does anything else that uses alsa work for you?
[09:47] <fangorious> DarthVineman, open a terminal, cd to /opt, and type 'sudo tar xvzf /path/to/xampp...'
[09:47] <xipietotec> this is going to seem odd, but I need to turn off my screen saver from the terminal, I cannot open up my screen saver dialog through gdm...as it will lock up my computer, and I'm in the middle of upgrading to edgy
[09:47] <tsoler> ill do a search in intell for my card to find the latest driver
[09:47] <fangorious> then enter your login password (not a root account password)
[09:47] <XVampireX> joe__, oss and alsa are 2 different sound drivers
[09:47] <tsoler> ill tell u the results
[09:47] <DarthVineman> cd to opt?
[09:47] <sean> ./doom.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 - How do I install a 32 bit version?
[09:47] <fangorious> DarthVineman, in a terminal, type 'cd /opt'
[09:48] <DarthVineman> ok
[09:48] <joe__> XVampireX: audacity only works with dsp --
[09:48] <poningru> MrBond82: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy
[09:48] <XVampireX> joe__, try to listen to some music through rhythmbox
[09:48] <joe__> XVampireX: i can't tell which driver vlc is using -- it has either enabled -- i think it's using /dev/dsp though
[09:48] <tsoler> nolie , oops haha i dont even know hot to update a driver in ubuntu
[09:48] <anon32> !edgyupgrade
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgyupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <xipietotec> Please, anyone? help? I can't leave my computer now because it'll lock up if I do....=(
[09:48] <XVampireX> !sound
[09:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:49] <anon32> !upgrade
[09:49] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:49] <poningru> !upgrade
[09:49] <poningru> xipietotec: whats wrong?
[09:49] <fbc> How can I enable the 3d features on my ATI mobile RADEON 200M?
[09:49] <tsoler> is there a way to update a device driver in ubuntu??
[09:49] <joe__> okay, nothing works with alsa
[09:49] <joe__> it's all dsp
[09:49] <sean> arghhh - ok, I give up.
[09:49] <anon32> if I want to upgrade my system from a CDROM, should I use the alternate or the desktop CD?
[09:49] <XVampireX> joe__, read the link then
[09:50] <poningru> anon32: alternate
[09:50] <fangorious> fbc, use the fglrx driver (either from ati.com or the one in linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[09:50] <poningru> !alternate
[09:50] <anon32> poningru: thanks
[09:50] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:50] <xipietotec> poningru: Well I've been trying to get an unstable aiglx/beryl session to work....it hasn't been so I decided to instead upgrade to edgy
[09:50] <lietu> tsoler: which device driver?
[09:50] <joe__> XVampireX:  what link
[09:50] <xipietotec> now I'm in the middle of that upgrade
[09:50] <tsoler> graphic card
[09:50] <bart416_> Okay, any good idea to force a format on a 'damaged' disk ?
[09:50] <poningru> xipietotec: any probs so far?
[09:50] <xipietotec> and I just realized: If my screen saver comes on, it'll crash
[09:50] <bart416_> well actually memory stick
[09:50] <poningru> xipietotec: it shouldnt...
[09:50] <XVampireX> !sound > joe__
[09:50] <poningru> xipietotec: disable it then
[09:51] <xipietotec> poningru: my openGL screen saver crashes the desktop right now, I need to be able to disable it from the terminal
[09:51] <qid> poningru: I looked in the device manager and see nothing identifying any monitors
[09:51] <marc_> WHat PCI wireless card do I need for Ubuntu...anyone..?
[09:51] <tsoler> lietu any ideas?
[09:51] <lietu> tsoler: if the graphic card manufacturer provides drivers, it'll be possible, if it's only included in kernel or X distribution, you need to update them
[09:51] <xipietotec> because if I open the normal "Screen saver" portion in gdm, it has a little "preview" which also crashes gdm
[09:51] <lietu> tsoler: for example nvidia drivers shouldn't be a problem
[09:51] <fangorious> marc_: intel ipw2200 works great
[09:51] <Scorpmoon> does ubuntu server (LAMP) come with phpMyAdmin installed?
[09:51] <joe__> XVampireX: thanks
[09:51] <Scorpmoon> or can I get phpMyAdmin using apt-get ?
[09:51] <fangorious> DarthVineman, any luck using tar at the command line?
[09:52] <bart416_> Scorpmoon, get it in a tar.gz file from the phpmyadmin website
[09:52] <poningru> xipietotec: go disable it then... system->pref->screensaver
[09:52] <DarthVineman> Yeah
[09:52] <XVampireX> joe__, no problem
[09:52] <DarthVineman> That worked I think
[09:52] <bart416_> extract it to your htdocs
[09:52] <marc_> Thanks Fang.......
[09:52] <tsoler> u mean u can not update them manually?
[09:52] <Scorpmoon> bart416, it seems to be in apt-get
[09:52] <bart416_> and alter the configuration file
[09:52] <boink> phpmyadmin - set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW
[09:52] <boink> it's in apt-get
[09:52] <poningru> marc_: where do you live?
[09:52] <bart416_> It is in apt-get :S
[09:52] <bart416_> Didn't know that
[09:52] <brett> OK.. all of the sudden my DVD craps out...  I thought it was a driver, but I can't even but to a ubuntu live CD...  do you think that would confirm hardware fault?
[09:52] <boink> man apt-cache
[09:52] <bart416_> brett, does it make a funny sound ?
[09:52] <fbc> fangorious:  they are installed, but how do I enable them... I have the gnome control panel installed an everything, but I can't see a way to enable them.
[09:52] <fangorious> DarthVineman, If you want to use the gui archive tool, you can hit <alt>-F2 to get the 'Run Program' dialog and type in 'gksudo file-roller', and then enter your login password when prompted. That should run filer-roller as root
[09:53] <brett> No noise at all... not sure if it is even spinning up
[09:53] <tsoler> leitu?
[09:53] <xipietotec> poningru: I can't disable it through the GUI, because it automatically brings up a preview of the screen saver in a little window, that causes xserver to crash as well
[09:53] <bgrupe> in which package is a UNIX-/Solaris-compatible "mail" binary?
[09:53] <xipietotec> I need to disable it in terminal.
[09:53] <poningru> oh
[09:53] <XVampireX> jbmigel, Ah... I fixed it... yeah, I had 2 versions of gmpc
[09:53] <dfgas> darn it i can't reinstall ubuntu
[09:53] <tsoler> you mean u cannot update them manually?
[09:53] <brett> The disk manager program sees it...
[09:53] <merlin> w00t
[09:53] <fangorious> fbc, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the driver from ati (or vesa, or whatever) to fglrx, and then reboot
[09:53] <brett> says its an NEC 3550
[09:53] <merlin> Beryl + Dapper = ownage
[09:53] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can any one help me with getting CPU freq scalling to work on my laptop?
[09:54] <fbc> fangorious: cooll.. I'll try it..
[09:54] <fangorious> fbc, after you log in, run 'fglrxinfo' and look for ATI Technologies as the OpenGL vendor string
[09:54] <nolimitsoya> jeeves_Moss, amd or intel?
[09:54] <fangorious> fbc: that will mean hardware acceleration is enabled
[09:54] <jeeves_Moss> nolimitsoya: Intel.  there's any other brand?  LOL
[09:54] <nolimitsoya> jeeves_Moss, search for speedstep in synaptic
[09:54] <tsoler> nolie is there a list with combatible cards ???
[09:55] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what do you mean?
[09:55] <qid> anyone else know if it's possible to get ubuntu on a laptop to auto-detect when an external monitor is connected and extend (not mirror) the desktop onto i?
[09:55] <fbc> ok
[09:55] <lietu> tsoler?`
[09:55] <jeeves_Moss> nolimitsoya:  I think I've got that installed actuly, but when it boots, it gives me an error msg.
[09:55] <tsoler> yes
[09:55] <lietu> tsoler: as in, copying new drivers off somewhere?
[09:55] <poningru> qid: no clue dude sorry
[09:55] <poningru> rem__: identifier
[09:55] <poningru> wtf
[09:56] <nolimitsoya> jeeves_Moss, try 'man <name of package>' in a terminal
[09:56] <lietu> tsoler: I'd say, in atleast 99% of the cases, that's not possible
[09:56] <tsoler> get a new driver and update old one
[09:56] <lietu> well
[09:56] <lietu> 99% of the drivers in linux only come with the kernel as the companies making the stuff don't care about linux drivers
[09:57] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you can always search intel in synaptic, and see if there are any packages that might contain alternate drivers
[09:57] <lietu> or Xorg distribution ofcourse
[09:57] <jeeves_Moss> nolimitsoya:  ok, installing it now.  I had installed the CPU one from the dock menu
[09:57] <Squirrels> whats the command to move files in the terminal
[09:57] <nolimitsoya> Squirrels, mv
[09:57] <dcordes> how can i switch between connected channels in irssi?
[09:57] <tsoler> im confused
[09:57] <KenSentMe> I installed java, like said on the help.ubuntu.com pages, but firefox still asks to install the 'missing' jave plugin. Anyone have an idea what to do?
[09:57] <joona> mythicH: you prolly already got an answer, but its: sudo apachectl restart
[09:57] <Scorpmoon> if i type wget url, where does it download to?
[09:57] <qid> dcordes: alt+numbers
[09:57] <joona> or, apache2ctl if you happen to run apache2
[09:57] <fangorious> Scorpmoon, current directory
[09:58] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[09:58] <dcordes> qid: great thanks
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> Scorpmoon, to the directory you are in
[09:58] <tsoler> google earth is for linux is that right??
[09:58] <qid> dcordes: alt+arrow keys might also work
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, there is a linux version, yes
[09:58] <lietu> tsoler: well I just used google earth in ubuntu
[09:58] <fbc> fangorious:  I t won't let me save the file.. I guess I need to be loged in as root, but root password is not the same as my user password. What should I use?
[09:58] <tsoler> what does it says to u?
[09:58] <lietu> tsoler: in linux drivers aren't generally made like in windows world, as in every company makes their own drivers and distributes them seperately in "driver install packages" etc
[09:58] <dcordes> qid: this switches me btw ttys
[09:59] <Rico-> hey: there's a package i want to install that's only available in edgy. is it relatively harmless to upgrade to edgy right now, or should I wait, or is there way to only install certain packages from edgy?
[09:59] <fangorious> fbc: you at terminal?
[09:59] <qid> dcordes: which, arrows or numbers?
[09:59] <fbc> yup
[09:59] <lietu> tsoler: in linux, someone makes the driver, someone notices it works and sticks it in a distribution of the kernel/xorg/whatever
[09:59] <fangorious> fbc: you can run sudo gvim, sudo gedit, sudo nano, sudo vi
[09:59] <mythicH> joona: Yes, I found that but I'm still having troubles. :-p
[09:59] <fangorious> fbc, enter your own login password
[09:59] <lietu> tsoler: some companies(nvidia for example) provide their own driver install packages for linux too, but they are rather rare
[10:00] <tsoler>  google prompts me for what then??
[10:00] <lietu> tsoler: "what does google earth say to me"?, nothing at all, it just works
[10:00] <lietu> tho, I use the web interface
[10:00] <tsoler> to me it says , please update your driver
[10:00] <eck0> hey who else was having that problem with the black screen
[10:01] <fbc> fangorious:  so now I just need to log out and back in to see the chnges?
[10:01] <tsoler> doesnt google know that there are no drivers??
[10:01] <fangorious> fbc, sudo is your interface to the root account, you can use 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[10:01] <tsoler> its a bit confusing?
[10:01] <lietu> tsoler: http://maps.google.com/ too?
[10:01] <fangorious> fbc, i would reboot, as there's a kernel module as well as the X driver
[10:01] <tsoler> i havent tried that
[10:01] <fbc> ok see you later...
[10:01] <fbc> thnks
[10:01] <fangorious> hope it works
[10:01] <tsoler> i ll try
[10:01] <lietu> tsoler: well try it
[10:02] <marc_> Fang Question....
[10:02] <fangorious> marc_, Answer ....
[10:02] <mythicH> Can anyone assist me in setting up phpmyadmin ?
[10:02] <eck0> did anyone else have the blackscreen problem
[10:02] <fangorious> eck0, what video chipset?
[10:02] <tsoler> no prob with maps
[10:02] <eck0> im using ATI
[10:03] <fangorious> eck0, hold on
[10:03] <eck0> radeon 9250
[10:03] <gh0st> how can i remove the text under the icons in nautilus navigation bar?
[10:03] <marc_> Fang...when I type "lspci -v" in terminal...it shows my Wireless Netgear card....but says only available to ROOT?
[10:03] <Clinton__> does anyone besides myself have a problem with google earth flashing continuously for the maps?
[10:03] <fangorious> eck0, https://launchpad.net/bugs/22985
[10:03] <marc_> What does that mean..?
[10:04] <fangorious> marc_, i'ver never seen that, can you copy/paste just the available to root part/
[10:04] <marc_> Do I need a ROOT password or better yet create one then access my wireless card..?
[10:04] <andy_> hi all, is there any easy way to update xchat?
[10:04] <tsoler> nolie, lietu, is there a list of well - working cards for ge?
[10:04] <eck0> how do i add those lines?
[10:05] <fangorious> marc_, possibly
[10:05] <lietu> tsoler: I wouldn't know, ask google
[10:05] <marc_> Capabilities: <available only to root>
[10:05] <lietu> marc_: sudo
[10:05] <fangorious> marc_, ah, run 'sudo lspci -v' and enter your login password when prompted
[10:06] <gh0st> how can i remove the text under the icons in nautilus navigation bar?
[10:06] <Clinton__> does anyone besides myself have a problem with google earth flashing continuously for the maps?
[10:06] <eck0> fang how do i add those lines
[10:06] <andy_> or set su password with : sudo passwd
[10:06] <fangorious> eck0, hit <ctrl><alt>F1, login, and run 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' (or whatever your favorite console editor is
[10:07] <eck0> how do i login if i dont even have it setup
[10:07] <fangorious> eck0, ah
[10:07] <marc_> ok....I "sudo" and see the wireless card there but I still cannot use the darn thing...what farce
[10:07] <fangorious> eck0, you're using a livecd installer i take it?
[10:07] <eck0> ithink so
[10:07] <eck0> yes
[10:08] <fangorious> eck0, at the boot menu, is there a some kind of 'safe mode video' or 'vesa video', something to that effect?
[10:08] <eck0> not that i can recall
[10:08] <eck0> same mode video yes
[10:08] <fangorious> marc_, have you searched ubuntuforums for your chipset?
[10:08] <eck0> safe
[10:09] <fangorious> eck0, try that
[10:09] <eck0> i did
[10:09] <Borat> hey guys, when i try to upgrade to edgy using the update manager, i get an error that says i cant calculate some of the files..
[10:09] <Borat> or something like taht
[10:09] <marc_> Fang that's what I was trying to do.....but
[10:09] <Subhuman> marc_, stop using /me commands
[10:09] <eck0> didnt work
[10:09] <eck0> but ill brb
[10:09] <fbc> fangorious:  Hey it work!!!
[10:09] <fangorious> fbc: sweet
[10:10] <Subhuman> Borat, ask in #ubuntu+1, more likely to get an answer
[10:10] <marc_> No more /me commands......
[10:10] <fbc> fangorious:  I have one other little problem.. When ever I run my wireless manager it asks me if I ran it with SUDU because it does not have sufficient rights to access my card..
[10:11] <marc_> whois Subhuman.....?
[10:11] <fbc> fangorious: how to do I fix it so that it does run with the SUDO rights?
[10:11] <tich> does anyone use beryl?
[10:11] <Subhuman> i am me.
[10:11] <Subhuman> ?
[10:11] <fangorious> fbc, are you connecting to an encrypted wlan?
[10:11] <dabaR> I am uber human
[10:11] <fbc> fangorious:  yup
[10:11] <Xaser> hi all
[10:11] <asaa> I was trying to disable ipv6 on my ubuntu 6.06, i was following some online tutorials, and edited /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and /etc/hosts but without any result. Finally I RESTORED all the files to the original version (i'm sure to have restored them). The last time i was working with the commands "rmmod" and "lsmod" without success.. and after rebooting the "eth0" and the PS2 mouse completely disappeared, but i
[10:11] <hilfesucher> hi @ all i wanna use mirro command Reverse, mirror -R
[10:11] <hilfesucher> anybody can help
[10:12] <fangorious> fbc, are you sure it's asking about sudo, network-manager curerntly stores wlan keys in the keyring, so you are always asked for your keyring password
[10:12] <CpuWhiz> for all the skeleton files and such, is it useradd or adduser
[10:12] <gh0st> how can i remove the text under the icons in nautilus navigation bar?
[10:12] <fangorious> CpuWhiz, why not System->administration->users?
[10:12] <fbc> fangorious:  yup.. it tells me so...
[10:12] <Xaser> I gots a problem, I cant access the internet via my Ubuntu box. My windows box works fine. I can ping www.google.com no probs but cant get to it via firefox..  any ideas?
[10:12] <fangorious> fbc, is it lying?
[10:13] <CpuWhiz> fangorious: because it doesn't have a gui installed :)
[10:13] <fangorious> fbc, i've never run into sudo issues with network-manager
[10:13] <hilfesucher> noone can help`
[10:13] <fbc> fangorious:  nope, cuz it won't list any of my netwroks...
[10:13] <fbc> fangorious:  nope it's the wirelss manager I add seperately through the synaptics manager...
[10:13] <fangorious> CpuWhiz, i think useradd should work
[10:14] <marc_> Thanks for your efforts Fang...I appreciate it.
[10:14] <fbc> fangorious:  cuz the network manager was not seeing any of my lans..
[10:14] <fangorious> marc_, sorry i couldn't get you up and running
[10:14] <eck0> fang
[10:14] <fangorious> fbc, ah, i've only ever used network-manager
[10:14] <marc_> we tried....
[10:14] <fangorious> eck0
[10:14] <eck0> hey ummm were do i get the permi nstalled
[10:14] <eck0> installer
[10:14] <fbc> fangorious:  so how do I edit the command line for one of my menu items__
[10:15] <Will> where can i get a preconfigured sources.list?
[10:15] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[10:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:15] <fangorious> fbc, Applications->Accessories->Alacarte
[10:15] <Will> !themes
[10:15] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:15] <fangorious> eck0 I thought the livecd has a launcher on the desktop to do a permanent install
[10:16] <eck0> i cant even can get to that
[10:16] <fbc> fangorious:  ok I changed the command line for that app to read: sudo wlassistant
[10:16] <Will> !upgrade
[10:16] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:16] <fangorious> fbc, it'll ask for you password everytime that way
[10:17] <tsoler> lietu, nolie:
[10:17] <gh0st> how can i remove the text under the icons in nautilus toolbar?
[10:17] <tsoler> i found a new driver:-P
[10:17] <fangorious> eck0, well, that is a problem
[10:17] <Xaser> anyone got any ideas? I cant connect to the internet via my ubuntu's firefox or any other app, but I can ping and resolve the www.google.com
[10:17] <help> it says my name is already in use even though.. its my name and i was just on it
[10:17] <lietu> tsoler: good for you
[10:17] <fangorious> eck0, here are the 6.10 install images
[10:17] <eck0> fang so anything?
[10:17] <eck0> ok ty
[10:18] <skavenge> Xaser: do you have to run through a proxy or anything?
[10:18] <tsoler> it must be newer
[10:18] <gnomefreak> fangorious: join #ubuntu+1 with edgy questions answers please
[10:18] <Xaser> through my ADSL router
[10:18] <tsoler> device manager doesnot shows dates???!!
[10:18] <Squirrels> is Aliend worth using?
[10:18] <fbc> fangorious:  I think I found my real problem. my eth1 (wireless card) will not come active... What can I try?
[10:19] <Xaser> skavenger: my windows box works fine
[10:19] <skavenge> Xaser: that shouldnt matter then, if you had to go through a proxy it would need to be set within the browser but i dont think thats the case
[10:19] <fangorious> gnomefreak, sorry,
[10:19] <eck0> fang i cant accept priv messages
[10:19] <Samuli^> Is there a way to find nick if you know someone's ip on ircnet?
[10:19] <fangorious> eck0, replace the 6.10 with 6.06
[10:19] <eck0> im not registered
[10:19] <tnnc> anyone know any good docs on how to install coppermine on ubuntu
[10:19] <fbc> tnnc:  dig, :-)
[10:20] <Xaser> skavenger: so any ideas? its not just ubuntu, as when I had fedora on that same machine it was the same, and on my laptop
[10:20] <fangorious> eck0, http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/ubuntu/6.06/
[10:21] <eck0> ok ty
[10:21] <eck0> bye ill be back later on
[10:21] <skavenge> Xaser: its a resolving issue for sure, I dont know much about it but check that your dns is correct for sure
[10:21] <tnnc> fbc dig what?
[10:21] <fangorious> fbc, what chipset you have?
[10:21] <fbc> tnnc:  just a joke.. dig for the coppermine.. get it??
[10:21] <fbc> fangorious:  broadcom I'm pretty sure...
[10:22] <tnnc> fbc i tought that what you meant ok LOL
[10:22] <skavenge> dig for copper, yuk yuk ;)
[10:22] <fangorious> fbc, those have a pretty spotty track record for linux support
[10:23] <fbc> fangorious:  damn...
[10:23] <PWill> fbc: Yeah, the Broadcom 4000 series has virtually no Linux support
[10:23] <fangorious> fbc, you know the specific chip? (maybe sudo lspci -v)
[10:23] <skavenge> fbc: broadcom, in general, your looking at ndiswrapper for support .. there are kernel modules for specific ones but imo they are sketchy
[10:23] <Xaser> skavenger: the DNS servers addy is set correctly via DHCP
[10:23] <tsoler> nolie
[10:23] <skavenge> xaser: and the router is allowing connection to the dns server?
[10:23] <tsoler> nolie, are u here?
[10:24] <Xaser> skavenger: checking now
[10:24] <fbc> fangorious:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 
[10:24] <tsoler> to all :ubuntu can accept drivers for suse
[10:24] <tsoler> ??
[10:24] <PWill> fbc: I ahd that same one, and everything sucked. Buy a new one, IMHO.
[10:24] <fangorious> fbc, you might try looking at ndiswrapper, which i've never used
[10:25] <skavenge> ndiswrapper may be exactly what you need
[10:25] <PWill> fangorious: NDISwrapper is terrible with the 4318
[10:25] <PWill> I used to have it
[10:25] <skavenge> ... or not
[10:25] <fangorious> PWill, ok
[10:25] <mlalkaka> hi everyone. how can i determine whether my processor is a hyper-threading processor under linux?
[10:25] <fbc> fangorious:  I don't like to use wrappers.. it doesn't feel the same. :-p
[10:25] <fangorious> PWill, do you know of anything that works for that chipset?
[10:25] <poningru> fbc: uh... use the firmware and it will work
[10:25] <Xaser> skavenger: would I be checking for the connection with a ping to the dns server, or if a specific port is forwarded? (if so what port?)
[10:26] <fbc> poningru:  what firmware?
[10:26] <poningru> fbc: hold on
[10:26] <ExilE> speaking of ndsiwrapper i'm trying to install a netgear usb dongle and the web page says install ndiswrapper. Install the package ndiswrapper-utils (eg using the Synaptic Package Manager) any idea where i can find this package
[10:26] <PWill> fangorious: Try installing "bcm43xx-fwcutter" from the repos. If that doesn't work, I'd get a new card.
[10:26] <poningru> fbc: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:26] <poningru> http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[10:26] <skavenge> watching paint dry riding a snail
[10:26] <fangorious> fbc, what those guys sadi
[10:26] <fangorious> said
[10:26] <adam_swe> hi everybody, yesterday my cousin enabled ssh on my computer and he gave me a domain on DynDNS. now i tried to setup an Apache, MySQL, and PHP server so i can host a website. but whenevere i go to my domain it asks for a username and password (so i can acsess my router). what do i do? :S
[10:27] <fangorious> i've always used intel ipw2x00
[10:27] <FuzzyBear> adam_swe : forward the port
[10:27] <FuzzyBear> adam_swe : and don't allow external http access to your router
[10:27] <adam_swe> what port do i haveto forward?
[10:27] <fangorious> adam_swe, 80
[10:27] <adam_swe> ok :)
[10:27] <PWill> fangorious: Yeah, I bought a 2200 after I realized that broadcom sucked
[10:27] <adam_swe> let me try
[10:27] <skavenge> fyi ive got a broadcom 4306 running like glass under ndiswrapper
[10:28] <fangorious> glass can run?
[10:28] <PWill> Yeah, the 4306's are great, but the 4318's, not so much
[10:28] <willdev> !samba
[10:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:28] <finalbeta> !rumba
[10:28] <skavenge> fangorious: quick like a bunny, i tell yah
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rumba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <fbc> poningru:  thanks, It's installing right now, except that it's giving me a warning about the type of card I have.
[10:29] <poningru> fbc: I know... it warns everyone
[10:29] <fangorious> skavenge, then why do people want to make parking lots out of it?
[10:29] <FuzzyBear> ubotu is a help bot?
[10:29] <poningru> FuzzyBear: yes
[10:29] <Seveas> FuzzyBear, yes
[10:29] <poningru> !ubotu
[10:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <FuzzyBear> !CTAN
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CTAN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <skavenge> fangorious: blame it on hippies
[10:30] <fangorious> skavenge, that makes sense
[10:30] <PWill> FuzzyBear: He knows everything, even 1337
[10:30] <willdev> how can i use samba to share my printer connected to my server? Any NEWBIE guide?
[10:30] <PWill> !1337
[10:30] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[10:30] <adam_swe> FuzzyBear, it works! thanks :D
[10:30] <adam_swe> fangorious, thanks it worked :D
[10:30] <fangorious> !relativity
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about relativity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <CharonX> Can anyone recomend a latex editor, or something that can continualy refresh a latex file and display what it will look like while I work on it in vi ?
[10:31] <poningru> ok guys...
[10:31] <skavenge> !fluxcapacitor
[10:31] <willdev> how can i use samba to share my printer connected to my server? Any NEWBIE guide?
[10:31] <Seveas> CharonX, that's hard
[10:31] <poningru> stop messing around with bot
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fluxcapacitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <fangorious> so apparently not everything
[10:31] <bandan> !gates
[10:31] <ExilE> what is ndiswrapper-utils and where do i get it
[10:31] <FuzzyBear> CharonX : I'm not sure that's possible
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <Seveas> CharonX, emacs has a buffer for displaying equations
[10:31] <skavenge> ExilE: the ndiswrapper package it comes in and it should be one the ubuntu cd or availible via the repos
[10:31] <Seveas> but iirc that's about it
[10:31] <CharonX> But then I have to use emacs ...
[10:31] <Railer> so how do I log in as root in ubuntu? I'm tried of my user not being able to access and move files around?
[10:31] <FuzzyBear> CharonX : you can try lyx
[10:31] <Seveas> TeX isn't wysiwyg
[10:31] <PWill> !love
[10:31] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[10:31] <willdev> how can i use samba to share my printer connected to my server? Any NEWBIE guide?
[10:32] <willdev> !sambaprinter
[10:32] <Seveas> !repeat | Will
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sambaprinter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <ubotu> Will: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:32] <fbc> poningru: It tells me to identify the ndiswrapper with  sudo ndiswrapper -l so that I can remove it, except that that command give me an error when I run it.
[10:32] <FuzzyBear> samba.org has some example configs for setting up printers
[10:32] <poningru> fbc: do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[10:33] <fbc> nope don't think so.
[10:33] <fangorious> willdev, can you browse to the printer in Places->Network Servers?
[10:33] <raintheory> !amarok
[10:33] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[10:33] <raintheory> !gstreamer
[10:33] <poningru> fbc: then you can ignore it
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <CharonX> FuzzyBear, yea just looking at lyx. Ill try it out. Thanks
[10:33] <fbc> poningru:  then what do I do now to make it work?
[10:33] <poningru> fbc: restart
[10:33] <fbc> poningru:  cool thanks.. BRB..
[10:34] <skavenge> is the totem gstreamer plugin fixed in edgy? why is it taking so long in dapper given its LTS status?
[10:34] <bruenig> when I sudo apt-get install something and then Ctrl + z to stop it in the middle of the download. The next time I try to sudo apt-get install something it gives me the familiar E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable), E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? Solution?
[10:34] <raintheory> anyone want to help me with some Amarok issues?
[10:34] <fangorious> bruenig, why are you backgrounding apt-get?
[10:34] <willdev> fangorious , no because its connected to the linux box which i want to share the printer off
[10:34] <skavenge> bruenig: ctrl z is only suspending it, not killing the process
[10:34] <Seveas> bruenig, ctrl-z suspends, so it's still there
[10:34] <fangorious> WildZeck,
[10:35] <Seveas> ctrl-c kills
[10:35] <fangorious> willdev, ah
[10:35] <bruenig> ok, so how do I fix that then?
[10:35] <Seveas> bruenig, easiest way: sudo killall apt-get
[10:35] <skavenge> actuall kill the apt process
[10:35] <bruenig> that is what I did
[10:35] <CharonX> Does lyx work like a regular document editor or is there any plugin available to I can use vim commands ?
[10:35] <constrictor> skavenge: so how do you bring it back up after you suspend with ctrl +z
[10:35] <Seveas> still locked: easiest way is rebooting
[10:36] <fangorious> willdev, the default samba config will share all installed printers
[10:36] <bruenig> yeah, figured as much
[10:36] <skavenge> constrictor: i dont know as i dont suspend
[10:36] <willdev> orite  cool
[10:36] <willdev> do i just do sudo apt-get install samba then?
[10:36] <skavenge> all: what is the command to bring back a ctrl-z command?
[10:36] <raintheory> just installed Amarok, but it keeps choking on something in my music collection
[10:36] <Seveas> skavenge, fg
[10:36] <raintheory> and locking up my whole system
[10:36] <fangorious> willdev, but you'll want to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to have the right workgroup
[10:36] <fangorious> willdev, i think so
[10:37] <skavenge> constrictor: sounds like 'fg' then
[10:37] <willdev> alrite cool thanks
[10:37] <FuzzyBear> CharonX : I haven't actually used lyx, I just put latex $1 && latex $1 && xdvi `basename $1`.dvi intoa  script
[10:37] <raintheory> is there another channel I should be asking about Amarok in?
[10:37] <Railer> anyone know how I can give my user full permissions to read/write to every directory in the the GUI not CLI???
[10:37] <fangorious> willdev, you might also need 'sudo invoke-rc.d samba start' to turn on the server. I forget if it is set to run at boot by default
[10:37] <skavenge> raintheory: #kubuntu possibly
[10:37] <ChaosFan> Railer: you do not want that.
[10:37] <raintheory> thx scavenge
[10:38] <raintheory> im actually using ubuntu tho, but i'll check it out
[10:38] <ChaosFan> Railer: half of your system tools will complain about insecurity issues in your filesystem...
[10:38] <Railer> Chaos I just want to move a file to another directory with havign to go to bloody CLI everytime
[10:39] <ChaosFan> Railer: which directory?
[10:39] <Railer> from my desktop to var/www
[10:39] <Dr_willis> Railer,  this is linux. it depends on the exact task you are trying to do. :)
[10:39] <FuzzyBear> how many times do you have to move files into a non-user dir?
[10:39] <skavenge> raintheory: regardless of DE amarok is a kde app so the boys in there may know a little more
[10:39] <FuzzyBear> Railer : add yourself to the same group as var/www
[10:40] <ChaosFan> Railer: on your local machine without other users?
[10:40] <FuzzyBear> and make the dir 775
[10:40] <asaa> the file that choose which modules are started at boot time are in /etc/modprobe.d/ or are there other config files for kernel module in other directories?
[10:40] <Railer> ChaosFan yes localmachine
[10:40] <Railer> in GUI
[10:40] <poningru> Railer: you can also do sudo nautilus
[10:40] <raintheory> okie doke skavenge ,  thanks!
[10:40] <poningru> from the terminal
[10:40] <poningru> but like they warned
[10:40] <Seveas> Railer, you should not have to touch things outside your homedir as normal user
[10:40] <poningru> thats not optimal
[10:41] <Dr_willis> asaa, # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[10:41] <Railer> I remember somethign about sudo nautilis
[10:41] <Dr_willis> running nautilis as root.. can be a bad idea
[10:41] <fbc> poningru:  Well, it's better than it was before.. at least the wireless light on my laptop comes on , but no lans are detected.. damn.. For a minute there, I thought I was gonna have to name a kid after you.
[10:41] <ChaosFan> Railer: just do once `sudo chmod -R o+rw /var/www' in cli, that should suffice, although FuzzyBear gave you the cleaner method ;)
[10:41] <asaa> Dr_willis: thanks.. and to disallow the loading of some modules i should edi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[10:42] <skavenge> if your not extremely careful root nautilus canbe nasty
[10:42] <Dr_willis> asaa,  You got it.
[10:42] <asaa> Dr_willis: thank you!
[10:42] <poningru> fbc: go into a terminal
[10:42] <poningru> and type in
[10:42] <poningru> iwlist scan
[10:43] <skavenge> fbc: i know im not into the whole story of your problem but the light coming on is a good sign, it may be detecting the card just not your network
[10:43] <fbc> poningru:  yup
[10:43] <poningru> fbc: do you see anything?
[10:43] <poningru> fbc: pastebin whatever shows up
[10:43] <Railer> I just need it to default to sudo nautilus
[10:43] <fbc> poningru:  yeah I se the command prompt
[10:44] <ianmacgregor> Railer: You shouldn't be using sudo nautilus, you should be using gksudo nautilus
[10:44] <ChaosFan> Railer: you want nautilus to default to root privileges?
[10:44] <poningru> fbc: you dont see any results?
[10:44] <skavenge> gksudo is important, ianmacgregor is right
[10:44] <Railer> gregor, what's the difference?
[10:44] <fbc> poningru: eth1      No scan results
[10:44] <ianmacgregor> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[10:44] <ChaosFan> Railer: what about logging in as root? it's definitely one of the nastiest things you can do, but you seem to want it...
[10:44] <[Daniel] > Hi
[10:45] <ianmacgregor> Railer: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[10:45] <poningru> fbc: go into networking and turn on the wireless card
[10:45] <FuzzyBear> !gksudo
[10:45] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[10:45] <Railer> well I just want to have the freedom to move files around
[10:45] <ianmacgregor> FuzzyBear: Thanks, I didn't know that factoid existed :)
[10:45] <poningru> Railer: right gksudo has to be used
[10:45] <fbc> poningru:  it says eth1 is active
[10:45] <poningru> not sudo
[10:45] <poningru> sorry
[10:45] <skavenge> some gui apps like to bork normal sudo and when it does bork it prevents you to from sudo'ing again
[10:45] <Railer> ok well sudo nautilus worked great
[10:46] <ianmacgregor> skavenge: I have even seen it prevent the user from logging in altogether
[10:46] <poningru> fbc: that means you probably dont have any wireless around
[10:46] <sergevn> Man what do I love ubuntu and it's support, A+ for the people who are involved :)
[10:46] <poningru> fbc: you sure you have wireless from your router running?
[10:47] <constrictor> !fg
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <rockstar_> hello
[10:47] <fbc> poningru: yes, I do right next to me is an acces point, and my wife's windows laptop can see it just fine at full signal strength
[10:47] <poningru> hmm
[10:47] <skavenge> ianmacgregor: i wouldnt be surpised in the least, your were totally correct in telling everyone gksudo was the right action
[10:47] <constrictor> skavenge: what is fg?
[10:47] <poningru> fbc: type iwconfig
[10:48] <skavenge> constrictor: Seveas tells me its the proper usage of bringing an app into the foreground from suspension
[10:48] <tgelter> hey all - I have a sblive and I can't get sound out of my center channel or subwoofer...any ideas?
[10:48] <[Daniel] > Hey, anyone know what's happened to SharpMusique? The Ubuntu documentation still seems to indicate that it's available, but it definitely isn't.
[10:48] <poningru> !soundblaster
[10:48] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[10:48] <skavenge> 'fg appname' or possibly fg PID
[10:48] <constrictor> i see, how is it used ie. what's the syntax do you know?
[10:48] <constrictor> oh right
[10:48] <poningru> [Daniel] : did you see that?
[10:49] <constrictor> answered my question already. nice one skavenge
[10:49] <[Daniel] > poningru, which? :)
[10:49] <ianmacgregor> constrictor: sounds like it is an option of the jobs command
[10:49] <skavenge> np, wasnt just me heh ;)
[10:49] <[Daniel] > Soundblaster?
[10:49] <poningru> !soundblaster > [Daniel] 
[10:49] <ianmacgregor> skavenge: You might be insterested in screen
[10:49] <dcordes> since my kaffeine has a jerky dvb-t playback i'm looking for an alternative solution to watch tv. can somebody suggest anything? important for me is easy configurability.
[10:49] <poningru> yeah
[10:49] <poningru> dcordes: mplayer, vlc etc.
[10:49] <[Daniel] > Are you saying the Soundblaster page has info about SharpMusique? :-D
[10:49] <constrictor> ianmacgregor: can you please explain that?
[10:50] <poningru> oh sorry
[10:50] <poningru> that was for tgelter
[10:50] <fbc> poningru:  I PMed you the command output.
[10:50] <dcordes> ponigru: vlc is too hard to configure and where is the dvbt in mplayer?
[10:50] <tgelter> thanks for the link
[10:50] <poningru> fbc: I didnt get it
[10:50] <poningru> pastebin it
[10:51] <poningru> rofl nice quit msg
[10:51] <ianmacgregor> constrictor: jobs was a way of starting an app in the bg and starting another app in the fg and switching between the two apps. I haven't used it in a long time, I use screen now as it's much better
[10:51] <skavenge> constrictor: if you make a habit of suspending apps and coming back to them screen is stellar
[10:51] <fbc> where do I find pastebin again?
[10:51] <poningru> !pastebin
[10:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:51] <skavenge> !pastebin
[10:51] <skavenge> gah slow typing ;)
[10:51] <poningru> ;)
[10:51] <constrictor> i'll give it a whirl
[10:52] <Samuli^> what anti-vir programs there were for linux? (it's for cleaning windows partition)
[10:52] <dcordes> ponigru: i can't find dvb support in mplayer?
[10:53] <fbc> poningru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27876/
[10:53] <skavenge> Samuli^: clamav is the standard but i dont run it nor do i know if it takes care of windows partitions
[10:53] <constrictor> !screen
[10:53] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:53] <ianmacgregor> constrictor: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/  and  http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/ScreenTutorial
[10:53] <poningru> fbc: you sure iwlist scan doesnt show up anything?
[10:54] <skavenge> inherently linux doesnt have alot of av options because they dont show up much
[10:54] <constrictor> thanks guys you're the best... :-)
[10:54] <gh0st> hello, i removed unintentionally the speaker icon in the gnome panel, how can i readd it?
[10:54] <moi-meme> someone know, how to change keyboard settings ?????
[10:54] <philipsmith> I just upgraded to 3Mip internet service. My pages load really slowly with Ubuntu, but very quickly with XP. I "tuned" Firefox to work faster. What else can I do to load web pages faster?
[10:54] <FuzzyBear> moi-meme : loadkeys, xmodmap
[10:54] <poningru> moi-meme: system->pref->keyboard
[10:54] <jrib> gh0st: right click on the panel > add to panel > volume control
[10:54] <skavenge> gh0st: right click on taskbar, add to panel, volume settings should be in the list somewhere
[10:54] <dcordes> gh0st: right click/ add to panel
[10:54] <fbc> poningru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27877/
[10:55] <dfgas> i do i reconifigure X with dpkg?
[10:55] <fbc> poningru:  I appreciate all the effor tyour putting into it, but as you said it's hit and miss with these cards, and I think mine is going to be a miss.
[10:55] <poningru> fbc: well dont give up just yet
[10:55] <constrictor> i think we should suggest to the good guys at canonical to include the 915resolution patch in the next release instead of use intel 9xxx graphics users stumbling on it somewhere
[10:55] <tgelter> what is the equivalent of the /etc/asound.conf in ubuntu?
[10:55] <moi-meme> I would like to use like "alt+r" is r with hacek etc...
[10:56] <fbc> poningru:  ok..
[10:56] <ianmacgregor> dfgas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <skavenge> constrictor: i have a intel 9* in my laptop and dont use that package honestly
[10:56] <philipsmith> Sorry for asking again: I just upgraded to 3Mip internet service. My pages load really slowly with Ubuntu, but very quickly with XP. I "tuned" Firefox to work faster. What else can I do to load web pages faster?
[10:56] <tucoz> Hi, i always forget what to I should write after i have selected a new usplash theme. That is, now the old one is still used even though i have changed.
[10:56] <dcordes> is there also a dvb-t player which is any usable and configurable like kaffeine?
[10:56] <FuzzyBear> philipsmith : are you using the same nameservers?
[10:56] <eXceLibrius_> hmmm one question.... i did some update for my Ubuntu, and now i have edubuntu ....... does this make big difrrence for me ?
[10:56] <Thomas___> Hi
[10:56] <constrictor> skavenge? so how do you get better graphics than the generic?
[10:57] <poningru> eXceLibrius_: not really
[10:57] <Thomas___> I just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and my screen (the command) is acting up on me
[10:57] <FuzzyBear> philipsmith : and do the pages load faster with another browser like opera?
[10:57] <poningru> fbc: ok lets try one thing
[10:57] <poningru> in your router
[10:57] <Thomas___> I can't resume screens made with the breezy-version
[10:57] <tannerld> when I try to delete a certain file from trash I get that it could not delete it because I don't have permission to modify its parent folder?
[10:57] <poningru> are you sure your router isnt use 802.11a?
[10:57] <skavenge> constrictor: i dont see the difference i guess, i dont game or anything and by default its running the intel x win driver ..
[10:57] <Thomas___>         9212.pts-2.raptus       (Dead ???)
[10:57] <Thomas___> That's what I get when trying to resume it
[10:57] <tgelter> what is the equivalent of the /etc/asound.conf in ubuntu?
[10:57] <constrictor> oh ok
[10:57] <nonrootuser_> Hi! Do you know if Scons are installable with atp-get?
[10:58] <Thomas___> (It's alive and kicking on my ssh-session which was made prior to the upgrade
[10:58] <eXceLibrius_> hmmm , one more question ...... i cant start Wine installation .... i am running on AMD64  ...... i have installed 32bit support ...... but still the eroor , that i386 architecture isnt found
[10:58] <Dr_willis> !info scons
[10:58] <ubotu> scons: A replacement for Make. In component main, is optional. Version 0.96.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 281 kB, installed size 1344 kB
[10:58] <constrictor> i guess i would need it more. i develop websites
[10:58] <FuzzyBear> Thomas___ : so remove the dead screens
[10:58] <skavenge> tannerld: your trying to delete something that was put there via root and now trashing it via your user your not getting the right permissions?
[10:58] <constrictor> new splash screen is brilliant in edgy though
[10:58] <fbc> poningru: ok...
[10:58] <eXceLibrius_> hmmm , one more question ...... i cant start Wine installation .... i am running on AMD64  ...... i have installed 32bit support ...... but still the eroor , that i386 architecture isnt found
[10:59] <skavenge> eXceLibrius_: have you installed 323 bit chroot?
[10:59] <skavenge> 32 even
[10:59] <eXceLibrius_> no, how to do that ?
[10:59] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: Erh, no
[10:59] <tannerld> skavenge: I might have sudo rm it, but thats it.
[10:59] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: It's not dead
[10:59] <eXceLibrius_> i am really beginer, i am running on linux few days
[10:59] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: I'm currently using it from my other ssh-session, that's my point
[10:59] <skavenge> eXceLibrius_: not aware myself, ive been told 64 bit systems need the 32 bit chroot to run wine though
[10:59] <fbc> poningru:  BTW, does the card need to be enabled in the BIOS? Is that important?
[10:59] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: I've got one ssh-session alive, from before the upgrade
[10:59] <fbc> poningru:  just kidiing
[11:00] <eXceLibrius_> skavenge and what must to do ?
[11:00] <fbc> poningru:  what next?
[11:00] <FuzzyBear> Thomas___ : does the problem still exist if you kill your other session then open a new one?
[11:00] <eXceLibrius_> what i must do ?
[11:00] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: I can open new ones
[11:00] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: That's not my problem
[11:00] <FuzzyBear> Thomas___ : can you reconnect to the new ones?
[11:00] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: I need to be able to resume the one I have
[11:00] <poningru> fbc: so another laptop is using the wifi signal right now?
[11:00] <ianmacgregor> Thomas___: Are you detaching the old one before trying to resume it?
[11:00] <skavenge> eXceLibrius_: sorry i cant be more help maybe google '32 bit chroot ubuntu'? i dont have 64 myself so havent run into this
[11:00] <fbc> poningru: yup..
[11:01] <Thomas___> ianmacgregor: No, because if I do that, I'll loose it forever, right now
[11:01] <fbc> poningru:  wife is spending more of my money right now...
[11:01] <skavenge> afaik there is no 64 bit wine ..
[11:01] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: I can resume screens made with the new version, from the new version, yes
[11:01] <poningru> how far away from the router are you?
[11:01] <tannerld> when I try to delete a certain file from trash I get that it could not delete it because I don't have permission to modify its parent folder?
[11:01] <fbc> poningru:  Maybe you can send me a patch for disabling her credit card..
[11:02] <poningru> :p
[11:02] <Thomas___> FuzzyBear: I wonder why it say it's dead, when it clearly isn't
[11:02] <fbc> poningru:  It's two feet away fromme..
[11:02] <skavenge> tannerld: your trying to delete something that was put there via root and now trashing it via your user your not getting the right permissions?
[11:02] <tannerld> skavenge: I might have sudo rm it, but thats it.
[11:02] <FuzzyBear> Thomas___ : so you can only not reconnect to that one session made before the upgrade?
[11:02] <nonrootuser_> Can you explain to me that: "Depends: libclam-vmqt0 but it is not installable
[11:02] <ianmacgregor> Thomas___: Referring to screen: -x   Attach to a not detached screen session. (Multi display mode).
[11:02] <nonrootuser_> "
[11:02] <tannerld> skavenge: sure
[11:02] <ianmacgregor> Thomas___: Have you tried screen -x <screen-name> ?
[11:03] <Chm0d> ugh what channel am i in?
[11:03] <anon32> does anyone have a good reason why I shouldn't switch to edgy pre-release date?
[11:03] <ianmacgregor> #ubuntu
[11:03] <Thomas___> ianmacgregor: Yes, and it displays the same error
[11:03] <skavenge> tannerld:at the very least navigating to homefolder/.Trash and sudo rming the contents should worj
[11:03] <ianmacgregor> Thomas___: :(
[11:03] <skavenge> *work
[11:03] <poningru> fbc: disable your wireless card in networking, restart and then try enabling it again
[11:03] <Chm0d> this sucks....most everything is blank after doing this tutorial
[11:03] <FuzzyBear> Thomas___ : maybe screen was upgraded as well?
[11:03] <fbc> poningru:  OK.. brb
[11:04] <marc_> Anyone know how to Compile a package...?
[11:04] <tannerld> skavenge: thanks that worked :)
[11:04] <skavenge> !compile
[11:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:04] <skavenge> tannerld: np
[11:04] <marc_> Kewl...thanks
[11:04] <RodrigoX> omg.. Beryl is much less stable than Compiz?
[11:04] <Chm0d> anyone have problems after doing this tutorial?
[11:04] <Chm0d> http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[11:05] <b03nto> how do i get rid off hibernate button in gnome poweroff menu ?
[11:05] <anon32> b03nto: why?
[11:05] <marc_> I will do my best to Compile...and return if I need further help...Thanks
[11:06] <b03nto> because i never use it, and if i use it, its not work.. i got alot off scary error in bootup
[11:07] <assasukasse> i have a big problem
[11:07] <assasukasse> after updating, update-manager doesn't install anymore anything
[11:07] <SonicvanaJr> Does anyone know if gnome-sound-recorder can output to mp3 ?
[11:07] <b03nto> it force me to do fsck in boot up..
[11:08] <eck0> hey
[11:08] <eck0> why did yo uhave me dl from that mirrior, its the same version i had
[11:08] <kitche> SonicvanaJr: probably came if you install lame
[11:08] <b03nto> anon32, any idea how to get rid off it...
[11:08] <SonicvanaJr> kitche, thanks
[11:08] <balayhashi> how do I install my kernel headers?
[11:09] <anon32> b03nto: not really
[11:09] <anon32> can't you just not click it?
[11:09] <ka5oai> is "EDGY" the fixed name of the development release, like Sid is the unchanging name of Debian's?
[11:09] <ianmacgregor> anon32: lol
[11:09] <ianmacgregor> ka5oai: yes
[11:09] <balayhashi> forget about it
[11:09] <Music_Shuffle> yes
[11:09] <anon32> ka5oai: no
[11:09] <ka5oai> kwel tnx
[11:09] <Dr_willis> lol
[11:09] <anon32> it's the name of ubuntu 6.10
[11:09] <ka5oai> now wait a minute
[11:09] <Dr_willis> 2 yes's and a no.
[11:09] <b03nto> anon32, yes i can but my brother use this box too.. and sometime he forget
[11:09] <ianmacgregor> ka5oai: Oh, no, sorry. The dev release after Edgy will be something else
[11:10] <Dr_willis> well Fainting Fawn is the Next after edgy.. so i say no. :)
[11:10] <anon32> there's new codenames for each version
[11:10] <Dr_willis> or simthing like that
[11:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:10] <ka5oai> ah ok so no fixed names
[11:10] <Vuen> Dr_willis: feisty fawn
[11:10] <Dr_willis> Farting Fawn
[11:10] <Music_Shuffle> Fainting Fawn?
[11:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:10] <skavenge> 'feisty fawn'
[11:10] <fbc> poningru:  that worked!! I'm on it right now!!! Holy smokes!
[11:10] <Music_Shuffle> Feisty's better. ;P
[11:10] <ka5oai> frisky fredrica
[11:10] <ka5oai> lol
[11:10] <ianmacgregor> Dr_willis: hahahaha
[11:10] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my network card doesn't get internet
[11:10] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[11:10] <skavenge> id've gone for feisty ferret as they are mean as hell but whatever
[11:10] <Music_Shuffle> Yeh
[11:10] <Dr_willis> Wabbid Weasle
[11:11] <ianmacgregor> Freaky Ferret
[11:11] <anon32> and what are we gonna do after 26 releases, when there's no more letters?
[11:11] <Vuen> isn't Grumpy Groundhog going to be the name of the dev release?
[11:11] <anon32> will we repeat?
[11:11] <eck0> so anyone else but me have the problem whenever you tried to use the desktop pc thing it went to a black screen rite after u hit the start or install and it did its checks
[11:11] <fbc> poningru:  I do gotta name a kid after you... also I was looking at some of my services... powermowd? Is 50 cent and snoopdog writing linux code now?
[11:11] <boink> anon32: start again :)
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Start again using Plant Names
[11:11] <Dr_willis> Rocking ROse, Panicky Petunia,
[11:12] <Dr_willis> Angry ANt. Butkicking Beatle, Crazy Cochroach
[11:12] <boink> like 6.10 ?
[11:12] <Dr_willis> anon32,  thats so 1990's
[11:12] <poningru> fbc: awesome
[11:12] <Dr_willis> 6.10 - is just the date. :)
[11:12] <anon32> yep.
[11:12] <poningru> fbc: hehe powernowd you mean?
[11:12] <anon32> it tells us nothing about the significance of the update
[11:12] <dmglouis> does anyone know why whenever I restart networking, it searches for leases at 255.255.255.255?
[11:12] <poningru> fbc: that allows your proc to scale back
[11:12] <dmglouis> because my router ip is 192.168.2.1
[11:13] <dmglouis> i want to change that
[11:13] <skavenge> they're in animals now, my guess is insects next. or avian
[11:13] <fbc> hmm..
[11:13] <ianmacgregor> Well, 26 releases (13 years?) I think something else will have come along to replace Linux
[11:13] <poningru> fbc: as in if you are not using your cpu's full power it will bring the speed down
[11:13] <anon32> since ubuntu uses a static model for packages, is there a distro that uses an incremental update model?
[11:13] <balayhashi> to compile my kernel if I  have no access to the net in ubuntu , what packages will I need to get ?
[11:13] <poningru> to save power, heat, extend life of the cpu etc.
[11:13] <anon32> balayhashi: kernel-source, kernel-headers
[11:13] <anon32> gcc-x
[11:13] <Dr_willis> anon32,  gentoo perhaps fits that bill.. :P
[11:13] <Vuen> build-essentials
[11:14] <floyd2> I tried installing beagle and I see "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 22534 package `libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby':
[11:14] <floyd2>  `Depends' field, reference to `libgtk2.0-0': version contains ` '
[11:14] <floyd2> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[11:14] <floyd2> " Is this a problem with the package?
[11:14] <eck0> is 6.10 out?
[11:14] <balayhashi> but all these files won'r require extra packages at install time?
[11:14] <ianmacgregor> eck0: the 26th
[11:14] <boink> it will be out on 26 october
[11:14] <rcarr> Floyd2: It sounds like an error in your local list of packages, try apt-get update
[11:14] <anon32> are there any major expected changes until then?
[11:14] <anon32> if not, I'll just use the rc
[11:14] <boink> sudo apt-get update -f install
[11:14] <rcarr> anon32: No
[11:14] <anon32> rcarr: yay
[11:15] <ianmacgregor> anon32: You never know what might happen.
[11:15] <b03nto> do they send 6.10 for free ?
[11:15] <anon32> though, I probably won't try to update universe until the freeze
[11:15] <boink> of course 6.10 will be free
[11:15] <anon32> b03nto: they won't send the rc, wait til the final
[11:15] <Vuen> b03nto: no, they won't send 6.10 for free
[11:15] <Vuen> they will continue to ship 6.06
[11:15] <Vuen> you can download the iso and burn it yourself
[11:15] <anon32> Vuen: really?
[11:15] <Vuen> yep
[11:15] <NET||abuse> hey guys, got a dual head screen setup here, how do i configure the screens etgc in gnome
[11:16] <anon32> WTF???
[11:16] <boink> will shipit not send out 6.10?
[11:16] <Vuen> no, they won't
[11:16] <boink> oh
[11:16] <Vuen> shipit will continue to send 6.06
[11:16] <boink> forever?
[11:16] <Vuen> it makes a lot of sense
[11:16] <b03nto> download it, take probably 2 month for me :(
[11:16] <Samuli^> 6.06 is the long term support thing.
[11:16] <Samuli^> <3
[11:16] <FuzzyBear> NET||abuse : have you configured the xorg.conf?
[11:16] <ianmacgregor> 6.06 has support for 3 years anyway
[11:16] <anon32> seeing as ubuntu will no longer be free after 6.06, might as well switch distros
[11:16] <Vuen> edgy came out only four months after dapper, and it will only be supported for a year and a half
[11:16] <boink> 5 years for the server
[11:16] <Samuli^> 3 or 5?
[11:16] <Vuen> dapper will be supported for three years
[11:16] <poningru> anon32: sorry??
[11:16] <dmglouis> can anyone help me? my internets not working
[11:16] <floyd2> rcarr, ok now apt says I have conflicts. I tried 'sudo apt-get -f install' and it fails. Going to try with synaptic.
[11:16] <anon32> poningru: free as in price, not "freedom"
[11:16] <eck0> is 6.10 better?
[11:16] <b03nto> what u mean no longer free ?
[11:16] <tyler_1> how do I add myself to the sudolist as a user? don't know how to log in as root?
[11:16] <NET||abuse> FuzzyBear, oh, do i have to configure monitors in xorg.conf??
[11:16] <NET||abuse> damn
[11:16] <eck0> ok well how do i make it perm install
[11:16] <ianmacgregor> Samuli^: Desktop 3 years, Server 5
[11:16] <poningru> anon32: you do realize you can download it??
[11:16] <anon32> although, I can't quite see the freedom in having to pay
[11:17] <Vuen> edgy contains "edgy new technologies", whereas dapper is intended to be the stable security release
[11:17] <NET||abuse> well, it's jumped to the secondary screen
[11:17] <FuzzyBear> NET||abuse : yes
[11:17] <Samuli^> ianmacgregor, yes. thanks.
[11:17] <anon32> poningru: NO I CAN'T
[11:17] <Vuen> hence, they will continue to ship dapper
[11:17] <jrib> anon32: iso's are free to download
[11:17] <NET||abuse> it's using my little 15" rather than the 19"
[11:17] <Will> what do you mean not free?
[11:17] <poningru> anon32: then according to you none of the linux distros are free
[11:17] <FuzzyBear> NET||abuse : you need two screen sessions
[11:17] <boink> dapper is stable
[11:17] <nolimitsoya> anon32, in what way wont edgy be gpl compatible?
[11:17] <poningru> anon32: you are friend
[11:17] <poningru> funny
[11:17] <boink> so will feisty fawn be a LTS release?
[11:17] <palomer> hello
[11:17] <anon32> nolimitsoya: free != GPL
[11:17] <palomer> my F keys don't work
[11:17] <poningru> anon32: please stop trolling
[11:17] <JonBoon> since blank cd's are like 20 cents, i guess ubuntu isnt free
[11:17] <anon32> free == $0
[11:17] <Vuen> boink: doubtful
[11:17] <poningru> !ops
[11:17] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:17] <palomer> like f1,f2,...
[11:17] <palomer> what's the deal?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> poningru: ?
[11:17] <nolimitsoya> anon32, gpl:ed software is free
[11:17] <Will> !gpl
[11:17] <ubotu> gpl is the GNU General Public License. See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[11:17] <poningru> gnomefreak: anon32
[11:18] <poningru> trolling
[11:18] <FuzzyBear> NET||abuse : sorry, you need two device sections
[11:18] <Vuen> JonBoon: you can probably set up ubuntu on a flash drive instead of a cd
[11:18] <anon32> that's not the free I'm talking about..
[11:18] <Vuen> so it can be free :)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> i read it
[11:18] <poningru> danke
[11:18] <floyd2> rcarr, apparently my libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby package is broken and neither apt nor synaptic can fix it?
[11:18] <dmglouis> please?
[11:18] <nolimitsoya> was he making sense, or just the usual ramblings?
[11:18] <JonBoon> yeah, i saw something like that on a site, it had a small cd and linux on a jump drive
[11:18] <poningru> dmglouis: whats wrong?
[11:18] <loftroffle> hopefully easy question: how to I remove a symbolic link? rm -(what?)
[11:18] <Vuen> wow. way too much traffic in this channel for me
[11:18] <dmglouis> poningru: my internets not working
[11:18] <Vuen> loftroffle: do it as root
[11:18] <floyd2> rcarr, I did the "fix broken packages" in synaptic and it failed.
[11:18] <boink> #ubuntu is just like #debian
[11:18] <poningru> dmglouis: ok how do you connect to the internet usually?
[11:18] <loftroffle> Vuen sudo rm -(what?) :P
[11:19] <boink> busy place
[11:19] <JonBoon> i bet i could put ubuntu on my 250gb external drive
[11:19] <dmglouis> poningru: ethernet to router
[11:19] <loftroffle> -f didn't seem to do the job
[11:19] <eck0> ok guys i tried almost everything im still getting the black screen
[11:19] <dmglouis> poningru: router to cable
[11:19] <Vuen> loftroffle: you know, i have no idea. i've gotten incredibly frustrated several times in the past trying to remove symbolic links
[11:19] <poningru> dmglouis: as in dsl, cable, dialup?
[11:19] <helmut> Hi. Can you tell me how to correctly hit the ubuntu people for sending ftbfs bugs to me for packages I don't maintain?
[11:19] <jrib> loftroffle: rm foo, should work I think
[11:19] <eck0> i dont know anything else or why my computer wont work
[11:19] <Vuen> loftroffle: i've stopped using symbolic links altogether. :(
[11:19] <helmut> I'd like to hit them with something very heavy and it should hurt!
[11:19] <dmglouis> poningru: the internet is working on the other comps on network, just not the ubuntu one
[11:19] <tyler_1> how do I change myself to be in the root group?
[11:19] <poningru> dmglouis: open up a terminal
[11:20] <poningru> and ping your router
[11:20] <floyd2> What do I do if synaptic reports a broken package but can't fix it?
[11:20] <dmglouis> poningru: it cant
[11:20] <ericmoritz\0> anyone here in england?
[11:20] <boink> me
[11:20] <dmglouis> poningru:it says destination host unreachable
[11:20] <poningru> dmglouis: how does the router give out IP address?
[11:20] <JonBoon> i didnt know updating to dapper would take 5 hours, heh
[11:20] <poningru> dmglouis: dhcp or static?
[11:20] <dmglouis> poningru:dhcp
[11:20] <eck0> im going nuts lol
[11:20] <fbc_>  <---- wireless is working! Now all of the other reindeer will no longer laugh and call me names.
[11:20] <JonBoon> haha
[11:21] <ianmacgregor> fbc_: hahaha
[11:21] <Karol84PL> Hello, Firefox often crashes on my kubuntu desktop when i open certain pages? Does anyone know a solution of that problem?   /sorry for my english
[11:21] <poningru> dmglouis: in networking make sure you are using dhcp and not static ip
[11:21] <poningru> fbc: :D
[11:21] <dmglouis> poningru:it is dhcp
[11:21] <dmglouis> poningru:i checked
[11:21] <goose> hey what's the best place to go to for help with festival?  the festival documentation is too dense for me X(
[11:21] <poningru> Karol84PL: is it flash pages?
[11:21] <poningru> dmglouis: open up a terminal
[11:21] <eck0> hey did anyone elses screen go black after you clicked install?
[11:21] <Karol84PL> yes
[11:21] <dmglouis> poningru:okay
[11:21] <poningru> dmglouis: type in ifconfig
[11:21] <floyd2> Karol84PL, try removing your extensions
[11:22] <boink> or try using opera :)
[11:22] <poningru> Karol84PL: remove the flash plugin
[11:22] <poningru> it causes lots of problems
[11:22] <dmglouis> poningru: okay eth0 and lo is showing up but eth0 has no address
[11:22] <tyler_1> anyone help me add myself to the superuser group?
[11:22] <AsheD> why does my Evolution keep downloading the same emails over and over?
[11:22] <floyd2> especially the flash9 beta
[11:22] <poningru> Karol84PL: almost everyones firefox crashes under linux is due to the flash
[11:22] <ianmacgregor> tyler_1: is sudo not working?
[11:22] <Karol84PL> floyd2 and poningru: thanks
[11:22] <poningru> dmglouis: can you pastebin it?
[11:22] <kitche> AsheD: because they are still on your mail server
[11:22] <dfgas> is there an easy way to configure the network from the cli?
[11:23] <K1765> Whats up?
[11:23] <poningru> !pastebin
[11:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <AsheD> kitche:: I told it to leave all of them on the server, and the only ones it downloads are really old ones
[11:23] <dmglouis> poningru:that comp doesn't have internet access
[11:23] <K1765> Hey
[11:23] <poningru> oh true
[11:23] <tyler_1> ianmacgregor: made the mistake of not adding myself to the superuser group
[11:23] <ianmacgregor> K1765: You ever get that ISO properly burned?
[11:23] <yangqing> hi
[11:23] <tyler_1> ianmacgregor: so I cannot run sudo from any account now
[11:23] <tyler_1> ianmacgregor: and cannot log in using root (of course)
[11:23] <ianmacgregor> tyler_1: How did you accomplish that? The installer makes the first account have sudo privs
[11:23] <K1765> ianmacgregor: hey
[11:23] <kitche> AsheD: or your client isn't seeing them as already downloaded the server has something to do with that as well
[11:24] <yangqing> I have some problems with chinese keyboard in french environnment
[11:24] <fbc_> Flash can get even worst. It can get you arrested.
[11:24] <tyler_1> ianmacgregor: first account is the oem account
[11:24] <K1765> ianmacgregor: I downloaded and burned the edgy one, and it worked.
[11:24] <poningru> dmglouis: are you sure network cable is plugged into right etc?
[11:24] <yangqing> I use SCIM for typing chinese
[11:24] <dmglouis> poningru:yes
[11:24] <K1765> ianmacgregor: The other one wouldnt work
[11:24] <boink> scim should work fine
[11:24] <floyd2> is the gnome-splashscreen-manager important? One of my libs is broken and I can only remove it and the screen manager depends on it.
[11:24] <tyler_1> ianmacgregor: then created one account without privilages.... and now here I am
[11:24] <ianmacgregor> tyler_1: Ahh, you installed it in oem mode.
[11:24] <mih> Tyler_1 : fix it withe the Live-CD session
[11:24] <palomer> is there an application to test the reliability of my hard disk?
[11:24] <ianmacgregor> K1765: That's good to hear
[11:24] <yangqing> In chinese mode no problems
[11:24] <palomer> what's the best application for making incremental backups easily and painlessly?
[11:24] <K1765> ianmacgregor: Yeah, I'm happy. I'm liking this also
[11:24] <eck0> so no1 else is having the same problem?
[11:24] <dmglouis> poningru:i get an address assigned each time I restart the computer but it still wont ping anything
[11:24] <tyler_1> mih: how do I do that?
[11:25] <K1765> ianmacgregor: Alot better than windows I can say that for sure lol
[11:25] <boink> palomer: rsnap
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> K1765: Indeed :)
[11:25] <dmglouis> poningru:but the IP gets lost each time I restart networking
[11:25] <yangqing> 
[11:25] <poningru> dmglouis: hmm
[11:25] <fbc_> dmglouis: Your rounter might be rejecting pings if so configured...
[11:25] <K1765> ianmacgregor: gaim is sweet also
[11:25] <yangqing> oops, sorry
[11:25] <boink> you can make good backups with simply rsync as well
[11:25] <poningru> dmglouis: you sure your router is configured right?
[11:25] <K1765> ianmacgregor: and how you add/remove programs and update is great
[11:25] <rcarr> This is odd
[11:25] <poningru> !backup
[11:25] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> tyler_1: Can you log back into that privileged account?
[11:25] <dmglouis> poningru:yea any other comp works
[11:25] <tyler_1> ianmacgregor: no I cannot
[11:26] <boink> !sudo
[11:26] <rcarr> A friend of mine just installed ubuntu, and he is unable to resolve anything with ubuntu in the hostname
[11:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:26] <dmglouis> poningru:if i take that same cbl and put it in a laptop or something, it works
[11:26] <floyd2> !repair broken package
[11:26] <ianmacgregor> tyler_1: Then the only thing I can say is you're stuck, or use a LiveCD (or recovery moce) to fix it
[11:26] <rcarr> We added ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com to /etc/hosts, but that is kind of...eh
[11:26] <poningru> dmglouis: make sure you dont have mac filtering setup
[11:26] <mih> tyler_1: first you get the Ubuntu Live CD, then put it in the CD ;) ...reboot and edit the privileges of your account
[11:26] <kitche> rcarr: but rest of the internet works
[11:26] <rcarr> kitche: Yes
[11:26] <fbc_> dmglouis: well by the OSI model you have a physical connection but not a logical one?
[11:26] <rcarr> kitche: And it's not filtering, he's at GATech and other people there can access it fine
[11:26] <Gavrila> hello, is dumpe2fs suposed to work on reiserfs partitions?
[11:26] <floyd2> Do I have to disparage aptitude before someone can tell me how to fix a broken package? :-)
[11:26] <dmglouis> fbc_:im sorry, i dont understand
[11:27] <rcarr> kitche: I'm inclined to blame it on his DNS servers, but still very odd
[11:27] <tyler_1> any other ideas?
[11:27] <brasko> hi, I just downloaded a .deb file.
[11:27] <brasko> what is the proper way to install it?
[11:27] <poningru> frack I gotta go bye guys
[11:27] <fbc_> dmglouis:  sorry.. I wrote that not realizing that some people do not know what a tcpip stack ais and the OSI model that it was created after..
[11:27] <boink> brasko: man apt-get
[11:27] <ianmacgregor> brasko: Was that .deb file made for Ubuntu or another distro?
[11:27] <boink> there's no need to download .deb files
[11:27] <brasko> nxserver_2.1.0-9_i386.deb
[11:28] <brasko> nxserver states that it works with ubuntu
[11:28] <LogicalDash> I just upgraded to Edgy under the impression that it would auto-recognize my Intel 3945 wireless card, but I'm not seeing it anywhere. What should I do?
[11:28] <brasko> ubuntu 6.0
[11:28] <fbc_> dmglouis:  disregard anything I've just said , it's not going to help you , just confuse you..
[11:28] <boink> man dpkg if you want to know
[11:28] <b03nto> brasko, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:28] <ubuntu> brasko what
[11:28] <brasko> boink: how do I install it, without downloading it?
[11:28] <boink> man apt-get
[11:28] <ianmacgregor> ubuntu: That's what you get for having your nick the same as the distro
[11:28] <brasko> boink: it's not in the repository
[11:29] <ubuntu> i k now
[11:29] <kaur> i need to run a daemon on boot and that must be done after the modules are loaded. How can i do it?
[11:29] <ubuntu> i am very popular
[11:29] <boink> then you can put it in there
[11:29] <FuzzyBear> kaur : put it in rc.local
[11:29] <brasko> I see
[11:29] <skavenge> 'ubuntu' is the default nick on install
[11:29] <deadhobo> How do I use the universe repository?
[11:29] <palomer> is it possible to use HomeUserBackup even if you're not an ubuntu user?
[11:29] <ThomBrown> guys, my external HD I'd been using with WinXP isn't writable under Ubuntu . . . I can read/execute, but I can't write!  I don't want to format it, so how can I WRITE to it??
[11:29] <ianmacgregor> skavenge: Yes, but the distro didn't register that nick for him ;)
[11:29] <ubuntu> all the people know me
[11:29] <FuzzyBear> ThomBrown : are you mounting read/write?
[11:29] <skavenge> agreed
[11:29] <tyler_1> where can I log in using root?
[11:29] <kaur> FuzzyBear I tried but it didn't seem to work (the daemon must be run as root)
[11:29] <JonBoon> i cant get my pc to boot from cd with my dvd burner, but when i put an old cd-rom in my pc it boots from cd fine... any ideas?
[11:29] <fbc_> ubuntu yes you are.. however like a cheap ho, every here is using you.. :-p
[11:29] <kitche> ThomBrown: is it ntfs or fat
[11:29] <brasko> boink: is that a different approach than the dpkg -i file.deb ?
[11:29] <dfgas> what is the package to install bitchx?
[11:30] <deadhobo> !tell deadhobo universe
[11:30] <ThomBrown> I'm just plugging it into the usb
[11:30] <Seveas> dfgas, bitchx
[11:30] <Seveas> !info bitchx
[11:30] <boink> brasko: apt-get would fetch files which that .deb might need
[11:30] <ubuntu> yes but i am the only who cant use me
[11:30] <ubuntu> lol
[11:30] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[11:30] <dfgas> ahh
[11:30] <deadhobo> !universe
[11:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:30] <FuzzyBear> kaur : it should automatically run as root
[11:30] <Gavrila> I've got a problem with grub and UUID identifiers, if I leave UUID in root= attribute of grub menu entry it doesn't find root filesystem; on the contrary using root=/dev/sdX works fine
[11:30] <Gavrila> any hint?
[11:30] <Lam_> what's the difference between a symbolic and a hard link?
[11:30] <fbc_> ubuntu: lol
[11:30] <FuzzyBear> kaur : or make a script and put it in rcX.d
[11:30] <ThomBrown> it's prolly ntfs, but would Ubuntu be able to read it if it WASN't FAT??
[11:30] <dfgas> Seveas, i must need to enable more repos
[11:30] <ubuntu> my grub ius kapput
[11:30] <kitche> Lam_: you delete a hard link the other file goes
[11:30] <FuzzyBear> kaur : S99whatever
[11:30] <brasko> boink: how could it fetch the files? it doesn't know anything about the nomachine .deb files
[11:30] <floyd2> Ok, when I tried to repair the libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby package I see "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 22534 package `libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby':
[11:30] <floyd2>  `Depends' field, reference to `libgtk2.0-0': version contains ` '
[11:30] <floyd2> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[11:30] <floyd2> "
[11:30] <ianmacgregor> !info bitchx
[11:30] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (dapper), package size 1467 kB, installed size 6476 kB
[11:31] <kitche> ThomBrown: Linux can't write to NTFS by default
[11:31] <Lam_> kitche: ah ok thanks
[11:31] <ThomBrown> ok
[11:31] <rcarr> Lam: A symbolic points to a file that points to data, a hard link points to data
[11:31] <Homer> where I download Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn
[11:31] <boink> then you need to adjust your /etc/apt/souces.list
[11:31] <Will> !NTFS
[11:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:31] <Seveas> Homer, it doesn't exist yet
[11:31] <brasko> b03nto: if I run that dpkg command, do I have to keep the .deb file around?
[11:31] <kaur> FuzzyBear I'll try
[11:31] <palomer> fixed
[11:31] <brasko> b03nto: or antything like that, so it knows how to uninstall it?
[11:31] <fbc_> bitchX? Sound like a good name for you backup date in case you get stood up.
[11:31] <ThomBrown> how do I know if it's ntfs or not (dumb questions, I know, I'm a noob)
[11:31] <Seveas> brasko, no
[11:31] <b03nto> brasko, no
[11:31] <Seveas> ThomBrown, sudo fdisk -l
[11:32] <brasko> you should try irssi, instead of bitchx
[11:32] <brasko> I like it much better
[11:32] <rag> how to emulate games for ubuntu
[11:32] <boink> !wine
[11:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:32] <ianmacgregor> !games
[11:32] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:32] <ubuntu> rag with wine
[11:32] <FuzzyBear> tuxnes
[11:32] <rag> for half life, and counter strike without wine
[11:32] <ubuntu> cedega
[11:32] <fbc_> rag there are a lot of emulators in the repositories... just enable them, and serach
[11:32] <rag> cedega ok
[11:33] <ThomBrown> hpfs/ntfs
[11:33] <rag> is good?
[11:33] <ThomBrown> crap
[11:33] <ThomBrown> so what can I do?
[11:33] <rag> i need 2 things
[11:33] <kitche> rag: just so you know cedega is wine pretty much but with cd protection and a direct x betteer
[11:33] <ianmacgregor> rag: Only you can be te judge of that. However, cedega has come a long way lately
[11:33] <rag> emulate half life and counter strike with cedega, and emulate old games
[11:33] <fbc_> rag: Your better off with wine and some good brie cheese.
[11:33] <b03nto> anyone using suspend2 ?
[11:33] <ubuntu> which program must i used to extract .rar. files
[11:34] <ianmacgregor> !rar
[11:34] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:34] <do_kev> does anybody know how to set up a microphone in ubuntu?
[11:34] <rag> what is better? wine or cedega what you recommend me?
[11:34] <ThomBrown> can I teach Ubuntu to WRITE to NTFS?
[11:34] <Subhuman> ThomBrown, google "ntfs-3g"
[11:34] <kitche> rag: well if you don't want to pay $5 bucks per month then use wine
[11:34] <Subhuman> or
[11:34] <Subhuman> !captive
[11:34] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:34] <fbc_> do_kev:  sure plug it into the socket.. that's aout it..
[11:34] <rag> wine and cedega is equal?
[11:34] <ThomBrown> ty
[11:35] <Subhuman> rag, no cedega is better for games, but you have to pay
[11:35] <rag> cedega i see that is software private :(
[11:35] <woro2006> hi, how can I set up a name server so that I can ping myself?
[11:35] <kitche> rag: cedega is open source you just buy for support and such
[11:35] <rag> cedega is better?
[11:35] <rag> ok open source
[11:35] <do_kev> fbc_: I got that far.  I'm bringing it in through an external mixer into the microphone port of my audigy card, which is what I have set up for playback, but the microphone still doesn't sound.  I checked the volume settings on the mic, but everything should be good to go.
[11:35] <kitche> rag: yes since you get cd protectiona nd other thigns
[11:35] <fbc_> Seveas: awww..
[11:35] <sergevn> How can i install win32 codecs for the ubuntu mplayer package?
[11:35] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : you don't need a nameserver to ping yourself
[11:35] <Seveas> !w32codecs | sergevn
[11:35] <ubotu> sergevn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:35] <sergevn> or do i have to recompile it?
[11:35] <gilnim|double> hi! following problem: 'Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual' when I command: 'glxgears' or 'glxinfo'
[11:35] <FuzzyBear> apt-get install w32codecs
[11:35] <woro2006> FuzzyBear then how come there is no response?
[11:36] <deadhobo> Akkk!! How do I apt-get from the "Universe"?
[11:36] <boink> servevn: you need to set up the right /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : because your network card is down?
[11:36] <Seveas> !universe | deadhobo
[11:36] <ubotu> deadhobo: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:36] <junky> hi, if ive 2 sound  cards, how can i use sound card 1 instead of snd card 0 ?
[11:36] <woro2006> i have a router
[11:36] <rag> but administration and powerful which is better, cedega or wine?
[11:36] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : because you don't have an IP address?
[11:36] <woro2006> i do
[11:36] <woro2006> a static ip
[11:36] <floyd2> What are the consequences of removing the gnome-screen-manager package?
[11:36] <boink> the default ubuntu sources.list doesn't have the win32codecs needed for mplayer
[11:36] <do_kev> junky: I think you go to system -> preferences -> sound, and it should be an option in there.
[11:36] <kaur> FuzzyBear: it worked after all i did something wrong earlier. Thanks
[11:36] <rag> other questions for emulate old games, type old machines,  DOSEMU? or which?
[11:37] <boink> floyd2: you can use any WM you want to use
[11:37] <Lam_> how do i log into a samba shared folder in kde?
[11:37] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : you have an ip, your network status it up, and you can't ping yourself?
[11:37] <gilnim|double> rag: cedega costs money and is based on wine
[11:37] <FuzzyBear> kaur : good
[11:37] <rag> Lam_, in konqueror, smb://user@host
[11:37] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : and you have no firewall rules?
[11:37] <tyler_1> is there any way for me to log in as root?
[11:37] <floyd2> boink, I use gnome. I have a broken lib that the screen manager depends on. Will I break ubuntu if I remove the broken lib (libgtk-pixbuf2-ruby)
[11:37] <woro2006> FuzzyBear I mean, is it possible to set up dns such that it points example.com to <public ip>
[11:37] <brasko> hmm, I need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[11:37] <junky> do_kev: even if i change that, it still playing on the "old" one, not on the new one
[11:38] <Lam_> rag: thanks a lot
[11:38] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: Where did you get gnme-screen-manager?
[11:38] <brasko> is there any way to get that?
[11:38] <rag> cedega is based on wine?
[11:38] <knight17> I can't mount my windows drives?
[11:38] <rag> Lam_, np
[11:38] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, how can I determine that?
[11:38] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : of course, that's what a dns server does
[11:38] <gilnim|double> tyler_1: "sudo -s"
[11:38] <Homer> edgy is "slightly faster" on bootup, and "much faster" on shutdown (vs dapper) <-- is this true
[11:38] <kitche> rag: yes cedega used to be called wineX
[11:38] <fbc-unteathered> rag: so are most vinegars..
[11:38] <woro2006> but when user type ftp.example.com it goes to a private ip?
[11:38] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: I don't know, it isn't in the repos
[11:38] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: That's why I asked :)
[11:38] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : yeah
[11:38] <woro2006> how do I route that traffic?
[11:38] <rag> fbc-unteathered, whatis vinegars?
[11:38] <roblocop> is there a way to stream from itunes to ubuntu?
[11:38] <tyler_1> gilnim|double: cannot do that... my user is not part of the superusers group
[11:39] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, oh so it's an unofficial package? I guess I can remove it without concern then.
[11:39] <knight17> can anyone help me??
[11:39] <tyler_1> gilnim|double:  and I only have one user
[11:39] <do_kev> junky: Sorry, that's all I can think of.  I changed my default soundcard, switched the plugs, rebooted, and it just worked.
[11:39] <rag> ei guys, and web cam
[11:39] <boink> !ask
[11:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <tyler_1> gilnim|double: :(
[11:39] <rag> yahoo messenger with cam support?
[11:39] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: Well, you might wanna be cautious about installing stuff like that as it can break things
[11:39] <knight17> I can't mount my NTFS FAT32 drives what to do?
[11:39] <rcarr> Anyone: A friend of mine is unable to resolve any domain with ubuntu in the hostname but hte rest of hte internet works fine, he in windows and other people on the same connection can resolve said hostnames fine
[11:39] <GreatBriton> ok, so i tried beryl &
[11:39] <rcarr> Anyone: Suggestions?
[11:39] <rag> do you know yahoo messenger and skype with cam support
[11:39] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : you don't need to.  Once you set up the zones, it will find the route
[11:40] <gilnim|double> tyler_1: then boot in the "repair mode"
[11:40] <woro2006> so I have to set up the firewall to do that?
[11:40] <GreatBriton> [1]  10632
[11:40] <knight17> any way to mount my windows partitions
[11:40] <kitche> rag: umm yahoo messenger
[11:40] <b03nto> tyler_1, reboot and select recovery mode...
[11:40] <fbc-unteathered> rag it was a joke.. you asked if cedega was based on wine. I replied, yes, so are most vinegars.. get it?
[11:40] <woro2006> so I am lost
[11:40] <togga> Homer: sure  https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/teardown
[11:40] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : do you want to be able to access the ns from outside the firewall?
[11:40] <GreatBriton> i got:
[11:40] <GreatBriton> [1]  10632
[11:40] <junky> do_kev: i dont want to reboot, thats the point, and when i change in system->prefs->sound, if i come back there, the same card is still there, its like my change has never came.
[11:40] <Homer> togga: what about bootup?
[11:40] <Homer> someone say it bootup faster for him
[11:40] <GreatBriton> ---@--- :~$ XGL Absent, Checking for NCIDIA
[11:40] <GreatBriton> VIDIA*
[11:40] <woro2006> FuzzyBear, it's very simple. Just example.com to <public ip> ftp.example.com to <another computer in my network>
[11:40] <GreatBriton> Nvidia Present
[11:41] <nikin> hy
[11:41] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : that's all you have to do
[11:41] <rag> fbc-unteathered, whatis vinegars? i dont understand you
[11:41] <knight17> it seems noone has a solution for it..i followed the ubuntu book
[11:41] <fbc-unteathered> woro2006:  Follow me, and I will make you a fisher of.... nooope.. just hang around you'll pick it up..
[11:41] <GreatBriton> Relaunching beryl with __GL_YIELD="NOTHING"
[11:41] <boink> you can use www.dyndns.org as a free dns service
[11:41] <gilnim> following problem: 'Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual'
[11:41] <woro2006> FuzzyBear, what's all?
[11:41] <GreatBriton> XGL Absent, Checking for NCIDIA
[11:41] <GreatBriton> Nvidia Present
[11:41] <togga> Homer: i don't know since I've got some hardware problems it's messing with..
[11:41] <kitche> rag: it's nothing to do with linux it's vinegars that you cook with and such
[11:41] <fbc-unteathered> rag: vinegar is what you put on food or fish.
[11:41] <nikin> my problem is that i need some thing
[11:41] <rag> kitche, yahoo messenger without wine is possible
[11:41] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : set it up like you want.  You don't need to set any fancy routing
[11:41] <rag> yahoo messenger like amsn exists?
[11:41] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, oops I mistyped the package it's gnome-splashscreen-manager and I've removed all unofficially supported repos and it's found in the cache
[11:41] <boink> you can use gaim for yahoo/msn
[11:42] <rcarr> !paste
[11:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:42] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, that means it's an official package right?
[11:42] <kitche> rag: well yahoo does make a linux client
[11:42] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : set up the dns server to point to example.com and ftp.example.com and you don't need any special routes
[11:42] <gilnim> rag: try gaim!
[11:42] <boink> !gaim
[11:42] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[11:42] <Quash> I'm having an install black screen issue on boot with 6.10 RC.  Anyone want to lend some advice? I can provide more details.
[11:42] <fbc-unteathered> rag: at my age.. nothing without wine it possible.. :-) I kill me... rofl
[11:42] <rag> ok gaim,
[11:42] <boink> gaim works quite well, rag
[11:42] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: That only manages splash screens and you don't even need it. Check this out: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/GnomeSplashScreen
[11:42] <nikin> to be true 3. a window manager that uses less than 20 MB RAM, and that it can handle my intel CPU's speed step, and all the other power managment stuff of a notebook
[11:42] <rag> i know gaim
[11:42] <rag> but my customer
[11:42] <tempted> ya, gaim is good... except i canb't get msn personalized messges
[11:42] <gilnim> rag: gaim should be already installed
[11:42] <GreatBriton> who was it who asked for the messages when i tried "beryl &"?
[11:43] <rag> need something easy, a yahoo messenger similar to amsn
[11:43] <variant> ,nikin fluxbox with gnome-power manager
[11:43] <nikin> rag: GAIM?
[11:43] <junky> do_kev: instead of reboot, do u know what can i do ? restart alsa?
[11:43] <rag> not a full IM like kopete or gaim
[11:43] <woro2006> FuzzyBear, i mean I have two computers in network
[11:43] <togga> view as list in Nautilus Edgy doesn't show anything in the window (icon view works fine). Any ideas?  Edgy bug?
[11:43] <woro2006> <public ip address> is attached to one computer
[11:43] <knight17> fdisk -l is not showing me my drives what is the problem plz help???
[11:44] <gilnim> following problem: 'Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual'
[11:44] <nikin> variant: will try just a sec... oh what is the name of gnome power managger?
[11:44] <kitche> rag: umm amsn is a full IM, but there is onyl yahoo messenger for linux that does linux besides gaim or kopete
[11:44] <jojoman02> togga, for my list works just fine in edgy
[11:44] <woro2006> when users from outside the network type ftp.example.com, what address should I point it to?
[11:44] <rag> PLEASE, do you know a yahoo messenger with cam support , like amsn, easy for creation accounts for small users
[11:44] <variant> nikin: gnome-power-mangaer iirc
[11:44] <nikin> variant: ty
[11:44] <woro2006> let's say the second computer has ip address 192.168.1.30
[11:44] <Quash> graphics problem/black screen on boot from CD 6.10 RC.  Can anyone help me?
[11:45] <Will> anyone from essex UK here?
[11:45] <rag> gaim support cam ok
[11:45] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[11:45] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : if you only have one external ip, you must point them all at that.  Then, using port forwarding, you redirct traffic to other computers
[11:45] <Tokenbad> when I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known  :  Can anyone tell me what this means?
[11:45] <Will> (im trying to hunt down my IT teacher :P)
[11:45] <BJ-n-da-bear> Quash: why load a release candidate? You like to be used as a guinea pig?
[11:45] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, I'm getting an error even trying to remove those packages. I'm beginning to suspect harddrive corruption :-(
[11:45] <hss> how can i delete .run files to complete delete in system
[11:46] <nolimitsoya> hss, ?
[11:46] <Quash> RC days before final release.  Ubuntu says it's fine with broad-based testing.  If it's not one week before release, they're in trouble.
[11:46] <BJ-n-da-bear> Will: I'd help you but I don't know the language in the UK.
[11:46] <hss> .run files like games
[11:46] <Will> its english ;)
[11:46] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: Can you post the errors to pastebin?
[11:46] <Quash> funny.  gee, thanks.
[11:46] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : if you want to be able to ftp to both example.com and ftp.example.com, and you want them both to be different internal servers, you have to have some sort of proxy that can determine forwarding be hostname
[11:46] <BJ-n-da-bear> Will: Oh, right. :-p
[11:46] <Will> where ya from?
[11:47] <BJ-n-da-bear> Will; Mexico
[11:47] <FuzzyBear> by hostname
[11:47] <Will> the UK invent english :P
[11:47] <Will> *invented
[11:47] <FuzzyBear> ha
[11:47] <gilnim|double> Will sure?
[11:47] <knight17> I am going I asked the same question 4 time How to mount my windows partition on Ubuntu
[11:47] <woro2006> i see
[11:47] <Will> ye :P
[11:47] <nolimitsoya> knight17, ill give you a guide, ok?
[11:47] <jrib> !ntfs | knight17
[11:47] <ubotu> knight17: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:47] <ianmacgregor> knight17: If no one here knows the answer, how should we respond?
[11:47] <BJ-n-da-bear> !repeat
[11:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:47] <rcarr> knight17: I searched google for
[11:47] <rag> i need a yahoo msn client, easy , not gaim or kopete for a easy user link accounts, is there?
[11:47] <variant> knight17: mount /dev/partitionnumberhere /mnt/wherever
[11:47] <rcarr> knight17: mount windows partition ubuntu
[11:48] <nikin> there is no such aplication : gnome-power-managger
[11:48] <togga> my Nautilus-problems solved...   no "columns" were selected :-)   could be useful to select at least "name" as default-setting for edgy on upgrade
[11:48] <rcarr> knight17: And the entire front page has valid results
[11:48] <nolimitsoya> knight17, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[11:48] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : but if you want http://example.com and ftp.example.com to point to two different computers, than you can use iptables/netfilter
[11:48] <rcarr> nikin: one g
[11:48] <rcarr> nikin: "manager" not"managger"
[11:48] <Quash> okay, no takers for my black screen of death on booting 6.10 RC.  Thanks, anyway.
[11:48] <BJ-n-da-bear> togga:  Nautilus gives my legs a good workout...
[11:48] <rcarr> Quash: More specific?
[11:48] <nikin> ohh :d
[11:48] <nikin> sry
[11:48] <rcarr> Quash: At what point in boot?
[11:49] <variant> Quash: you tried safe mode?
[11:49] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : because they use different ports.  So you can just have netfilter forward one to the internal computer
[11:49] <variant> Quash: safe graphics mode i mean
[11:49] <woro2006> does netfilter determine what users' request by domain name?
[11:49] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : no
[11:49] <woro2006> FuzzyBear, right now, I have a router that has the capabilities to use SIngle IP Address
[11:49] <woro2006> but when I do that, I can't ping myself
[11:49] <nikin> i get error message :
[11:49] <FuzzyBear> woro2006 : you can't ping yourself from where?
[11:49] <variant> woro2006: you have a firewall that blocks icmp packets?
[11:49] <Quash> Have tried default and Safe Graphics mode, plus F4 variations in different resolutsios and bits.
[11:49] <BJ-n-da-bear> woro2006:  go ping yourself!!!
[11:49] <togga> BJ-n-da-bear: pictures of that is flashing in my mind  :-)    kicking in anger or joy?
[11:50] <nikin> This program cannot start until you start the dbus session service.
[11:50] <variant> Quash: dunno then sorry
[11:50] <Quash> I've tried the regular 386 CD and the DVD.
[11:50] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, trying but pastebin isn't working
[11:50] <woro2006> haha
[11:50] <ClayG> how can you format a disk from the cli
[11:50] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:50] <Quash> It's find until it goes in to the desktop, then it goes black...  this is what I see...
[11:50] <woro2006> what port is icmp packet sent through?
[11:50] <Gavrila> anyone withproblems with UUIDs on boot on EDGY?
[11:50] <jojoman02>  what does the | symbol do in bash?
[11:50] <LjL> ClayG: "cfdisk" to partition, and then "mkfs" to format the partition
[11:50] <BJ-n-da-bear> ClayG: format a: /s
[11:50] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: it's a pipe
[11:51] <Agrajag> woro2006: no port, ICMP is on top of IP, not TCP
[11:51] <BJ-n-da-bear> ClayG:  nope oops, wrong CLI.
[11:51] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: know any good websites to learn bash scripting that aren't confuzing as he**
[11:51] <LjL> BJ-n-da-bear: Format Drive DF0:
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: pipes one command's output to another commands input
[11:51] <Quash> I boot off the CD, I see the boot splash, then the screen goes black with the blinking cursor (normal, I believe) and then it goes to click in to the desktop (I'm guessing, or is it GDM Login) and it goes black.
[11:51] <ClayG> hahahah
[11:51] <ClayG> BJ-n-da-bear, I hear ya on the one
[11:51] <pmj_> grr!
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: YEs, hold on, lemme find it
[11:51] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: thankz a bunch, i understand now what a pipe is in human terms :)
[11:51] <ianmacgregor> !bash > jojoman02
[11:52] <rcarr> jojoman02: Check "man bash"
[11:52] <gilnim|double> Will sure?
[11:52] <Quash> An xorg issue maybe?
[11:52] <gilnim|double> hi! following problem: 'Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual' when I command: 'glxgears' or 'glxinfo'
[11:52] <willdev> ye
[11:52] <Erwin> What does gnome-terminal require of a font? My neep font is missing from the selection it provides (while I can start up e.g. xterm -fn neep-14)
[11:52] <BJ-n-da-bear> jojoman02:  You don't know what pipe is in human terms?  Got a girlfriend?
[11:52] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: ps aux | grep ps will pipe the output of "ps aux" to be used as input for the grep command and grep acts on that.
[11:52] <Alakazamz0r> does ubuntu server support 4GB of RAM?
[11:52] <BJ-n-da-bear> oops.. my bad
[11:52] <variant> Alakazamz0r: yes
[11:53] <togga> gah. here I select "octal form" for permissions in nautilus to keep things small. but then the text in the header makes it even worse
[11:53] <Alakazamz0r> cool, thanks
[11:53] <Quash> rcarr: any ideas?  Did you see my description, above?
[11:53] <Alakazamz0r> as long as its a 686 SMP kernel variant ?
[11:53] <ianmacgregor> BJ-n-da-bear: This is a support channel and it's quite fast, please take ot comments to another channel.
[11:53] <rcarr> Quash: No, all I saw was the "no takers" thing
[11:53] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: i get it now, thankabunch
[11:53] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: You're welcome :)
[11:53] <Quash> rcarr: I'll repaste my descriptio now.  One sec.
[11:53] <variant> Alakazamz0r: the dapper kernel is 386 or 686 smp the edgy kernel is only 386 smp
[11:54] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, pasted to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27884/
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r> yeah variant .. i'll be installing dapper on my server
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r> it'll support 4GB? you're sure
[11:54] <Quash> rcarr: I boot off the CD, I see the boot splash, then the screen goes black with the blinking cursor (normal, I believe) and then it goes to click in to the desktop (I'm guessing, or is it GDM Login) and it goes black.
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[11:54] <variant> Alakazamz0r: yes, 100%
[11:54] <Alakazamz0r> thanks man
[11:54] <BJ-n-da-bear> ianmacgregor:  geezz.. just tryin to liven up the conversations.. why does everyone gotta be a straight arrow? OK OK, your right it's asupport channel, My bad.. I'll behave.
[11:55] <ianmacgregor> BJ-n-da-bear: :)
[11:55] <Quash> rcarr: Have tried default and Safe Graphics mode, plus F4 variations in different resolutsios and bits.
[11:55] <fabio_> hi guy
[11:55] <rcarr> Quash: If you press control+alt+f1 do you get a TTY?
[11:55] <ianmacgregor> floyd2: I haven't ever seen that type of error, I don't know how to help with that.
[11:55] <variant> fabio_: you wouldnt be in dublin would you?
[11:55] <floyd2> ianmacgregor, thanks for taking a look
[11:56] <marcrosoft> when running apt-get -f install .... I keep getting this  ...dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 3232 package `lftp':
[11:56] <Gavrila> hey guys I've got a problem booting edgy eft, today grub started to ignore root=UUID=XXXXX for no reason, any hint?
[11:56] <Quash> haven't tried this.  But, I've tried other key combinations and everything stay black.
[11:56] <marcrosoft>  missing version
[11:56] <rcarr> Quash: Try control+alt+f1-f6
[11:56] <rcarr> Quash: To get a terminal, then open /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:56] <rcarr> Quash: And look for relevant stuff torwards the end
[11:56] <Xenguy> marcrosoft: I don't think you should have to use '-f', yes?
[11:56] <rcarr> Quash: Also check dmesg | tail
[11:57] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: is there a way i can make a program run only while another program is running, (i wanna make zenity make a pulsating bar while extracting)
[11:57] <fabio_> variant what? :D
[11:57] <wweasel> Xenguy: that's for fixing problems.
[11:57] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: I was just learning about that for nautilus scripts and someone pointed me to man zenity. Tried that?
[11:57] <variant> fabio_: nm, thought you were somone else. i se eyour in italy
[11:57] <Quash> Yikes.  I great suggestions, but a bit over my head.  I'll try, though, with steps to follow.
[11:57] <BJ-n-da-bear> Well, it's been fun folks! I gotta go.
[11:58] <Xenguy> wweasel: mm
[11:58] <Quash> rcarr: what will alt + ctrl + F6 do?
[11:58] <wweasel> macrosoft: uhhh...I'm trying to think what could cause that
[11:58] <rcarr> Quash:Send you to a terminal rather than a GUI/X server
[11:58] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: Maybe the second part of this will help? http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/NautilusScripts#toc5
[11:58] <marcrosoft> Xenguy, yes because because there are dependency issues
[11:58] <rcarr> Quash: you can use f1, f2, f3, f4, f5 or f6
[11:58] <Xenguy> marcrosoft: IC
[11:58] <fabio_> variant: yes i'm italian...from Rome
[11:58] <rcarr> Quash: In the terminal, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log which contains X server logs with a text editor, like "sudo nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[11:58] <Quash> rcarr: do this when I get the black screen or on boot with the boot splash loading?
[11:58] <rcarr> Quash: At the black screen
[11:59] <Quash> rcarr: k
[11:59] <rcarr> Quash: See if that enlightens you as to the error, or at least try and write down relevant information or something
[11:59] <variant> rcarr: you can use more than that ;)
[11:59] <Keyseir> I was running apt-get dist-upgrade and it gave me an option to review the differences between the old modified file and the new maintained file. I got done reading the log but I don't know how to go back to the installation... I've got a blackened (END) at the prompt.
[11:59] <Keyseir> How do I get back to installation?
[11:59] <rcarr> Quash: Then run "dmesg | tail" which will give you the last few kernel messages
[11:59] <wweasel> macrosoft: do you know what dependency issues you are having?
[11:59] <Quash> rcarr: okay.  any way to save the xorg log?
[11:59] <Erwin> Keyseir: you are in less. press q.
[11:59] <rcarr> Quash:err, system messages, see if anything is relevant there
[11:59] <Keyseir> less?
[11:59] <marcrosoft> wweasel, ubuntu-desktop: Depends: lftp but it is not installed
[11:59] <Seveas> Keyseir, hit the q button
[12:00] <Keyseir> Got it.
[12:00] <Seveas> q key*
[12:00] <rcarr> Quash: You are having trouble booting the live cd, right?
[12:00] <Keyseir> thx
[12:00] <Erwin> Keyseir: less is a replacement for more (a pager, that lets you review the output of some long command)
[12:00] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: man zenity is very not useful, it's ok for zenity but it doesn't say how to use it practically
[12:00] <wweasel> macrosoft: For what reason did you uninstall lftp? Do you want to reinstall it?
[12:00] <Xenguy> Keyseir: 'less' is a 'pager' (like 'more' or 'most')
[12:00] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: Yeah, I see that
[12:00] <Keyseir> Got it.
[12:00] <rcarr> Quash: if you have a floppy drive or something, you could put a floppy in and do something like
[12:00] <marcrosoft> wweasel, i never uninstalled it
[12:00] <rcarr> Quash: sudo mkdir /media/floppy; sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy