=== doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-069-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bronson_ [n=bronson@adsl-64-161-106-11.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === windpaw [n=aeode@pjmvpc2agh4.pjmv.aber.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nightwish [i=gsn@segfault.kernel-oops.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shawn_home [n=spstarr@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] I hope your not abandoning 'apt' in favour of 'smart' or give the option of letting people use apt still [01:16] shawarma_away, I think we are dating with smart but far from merrying with it [01:17] shawarma_away, actually, if I'm not mistaken, smart only complements apt. It does not subistitute apt [01:17] the wiki says otherwise [01:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartPackageManager [01:17] 'We need to evaluate how to make a migration from apt to smart possible and painless and what features/changes are required to make smart the first-class package manager for Ubuntu.' [01:20] shawarma_away, take a look at http://labix.org/smart [01:22] hmm [01:24] oh? [01:24] interesting === spdf [n=mark@CPE00112f5c32aa-CM000e5c7018c4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC_ [n=bcollins@72.169.114.90] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] doko: don't we have python-egenix-mx::mxUID somewhere? isn't it not packaged? === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:47] sivang: we should, what doesn't work? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:52] doko: do you know which package mxUID resides in? [01:52] I couldn't find it [01:53] doko: hmm 'we should' means we have it or do not have it? :) === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@83-131-18-206.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:10] doko: I checked the source package, it seems we do not ship mxUID === KurtKraut [n=ktk@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [02:11] sivang: I'll look at it tomorrow; which package does need it? [02:13] doko: none that I know of , besides hubackup that is going to need it. I can help by providing a debdiff to the package to include this as well, but I haven't checked yet if it was not included due to license issues or so [02:13] doko: I'd like to create UUIDs from python and mxUID seems to be a good solution. [02:13] sivang: please do file a bug, it doesn't sound RC at the moment ... 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My internet is very slow and it need 5-7 seconds to open web page. Same computer with Windows partition working fine. I had exactly the same problem with Debian as well. Can anybody help me with this? [04:50] utterly the wrong channel. [04:52] Vaske_Car, open a support request on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@72-255-47-0.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _human_blip_away [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nkassi [n=nkassi@WK20-156.lewisweb.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mnepton [n=mneptok@montreal.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D9171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] Gnar. [05:34] mdz: Your firefox upload was FTBFS. === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-129-18.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:35] EEEKKKK === dufresnep [n=pauld@ip-66-254-46-77.mqdsl.megaquebec.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@221.216.191.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.113] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@221.216.191.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack_ [n=nico@p508D8ECF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Xoff [n=mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D8ECF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ArrenLex [n=alex@S01060040052da362.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:42] How come kuickshow was taken out of the ubuntu repositories for dapper? === freet15 [n=freet15@221.221.158.13] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt is away: === jack_wyt is away: === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-197-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:45] ArrenLex: kdegraphics (4:3.5.2-0ubuntu4) dapper; urgency=low * Do not create kuickshow package (needs imlib) [06:46] I see. And why is imlib a problem? === jack_wyt [n=Jack@221.216.191.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:47] imlib is in universe, kdegraphics is in main [06:48] Wow, what an annoying reason not to include a package... [06:49] Also, how come mplayer is in multiverse? It's GPL. [06:49] ArrenLex: there are a number of reasons why imlib is a problem, the least of which is security maintenance. [06:49] mplayer builds with non-free components, therefore it's in multiverse. [06:50] Really? Which components are these? [06:51] I always thought it was there because of the obvious patent issues. [06:51] the ones that reside in multiverse, like faad2, x264, and so on [06:51] Amaranth: The patent issues are with w32codecs, not with mplayer... mplayer relies on libavcodec for free codecs, which is in the repos already anyway. [06:51] since the binaries generated from those source packages resides in multiverse, then mplayer source /must/ be in multiverse. [06:52] Why not just compile mplayer without faad, then? === nedlae [n=ealden@203.131.67.106] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:52] that was considered and rejected. Currently mplayer is the only media player that can play the vast majority of formats by default. [06:52] ArrenLex: w32codecs has _copyright_ issues, completely different. [06:53] I see. [06:53] w32codecs is illegal to distribute in every country in the world that honors copyrights [06:53] That's all but a handful, as far as I know. === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon15126.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:54] bug #67606 [06:54] Malone bug 67606 in dmraid "dmraid is initialized before udev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67606 [06:54] I see. [06:54] Thanks a lot for all the help! === ArrenLex [n=alex@S01060040052da362.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [06:55] rmjb: are you experiencing the problem or just bouncing random bugs around? [06:56] I wanted to get the link === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-238-192.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:56] I'm experiencing the problem, and I'm working on it... hope I'm doing the fix correctly [06:58] rmjb: -> #ubuntu-motu [06:58] the pkg is not in main [06:58] and not supported [06:59] yeah I know, the bug bot is in that channel also? [06:59] dunno [06:59] i don't hang there [07:00] just checked, it seems to be... === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nuku2 [n=nuku@unaffiliated/nuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dous [n=dous@124.106.182.119] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon15126.tstt.net.tt] has left #ubuntu-devel ["sorry"] === BlingBling [n=samuel@222-154-176-50.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-197-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:54] hey guys, I am writing an app that will image harddrives, does anyone know how I can read the name of a macintosh Volume, like for example the name of the drive is "Macintosh HD" but in linux how do I find this info? where is it stored? [07:55] fdsd: that'd likely be stored within the HFS+ data for the filesystem, see 'libhfsp' perhaps [07:55] hal may also be able to tell you [07:56] Lathiat, thanks, Yeah hal does, but I dont have gnome installed on the livecd I created, and Im sure there isnt a command line mode for HAL [07:56] or is there? [07:56] well i dont know of any tools off hand to do it but you certainly could write something that queried it from a console utility [07:56] hal has a dbus interface, just use that [07:56] ah cool [07:59] lshal is a CLI for hal. [07:59] oh nice [07:59] There's also hal-get-property, for finer-grained searching, if you know what you're looking for. === shawn_home [n=spstarr@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [07:59] I just need it to output the name of the drive [08:01] what do you guys think, If I have a failing harddrive is it better to turn off dma with hdparm to try to get data off? [08:01] shouldn't matter [08:02] ok [08:03] Dropping down to PIO modes can help you get corrupted data off, if that's what you want. [08:03] Since UDMA modes do more anal CRC checking and such, you'll get more errors (and more files will refuse to copy). [08:04] But dropping to a slower mode won't make the drive any less broken, it'll just make it less obvious. [08:04] vol_id works perfectly [08:04] infinity, ah [08:05] infinity, cool, I have a script that will mount failing drives and copy the data off and I was wondering if setting it to PIO mode would help things === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] wow vol_id is awesome, works perfectly === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-50-138.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === archis_ [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] Do you guys know of any way to put the x86 iso and the ppc iso on the same CD, I have got them down to about 200mb~ and since they are going to only boot on x86 macs and powerpc macs I would like to make one CD, and since I can option boot and select the bootable volume it doesnt matter if its not bootable on a "PC" [08:15] you should be able to by just fiddling with mkisofs options [08:15] hmm [08:15] I havent been able to figure it out since the ppc bootable iso is very specific and needs to be a hybrid hfs/iso [08:16] oh, casper might need to be taught about it too. [08:16] true [08:16] thats not a big deal [08:16] which would be a tad of work, but certainly not impossible. [08:16] im comfertable modifing the initrd files [08:17] it would be nice to figure out a way to make a multi volume iso using two iso files..lol === Norgz [n=eroux@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@61.149.4.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:35] Good morning [08:36] morning pitti === ajjjj [n=anja@ua-83-227-215-150.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p549A54FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:38] pitti: hiya, you were supposed to upload some language-support packages; did you get around to that? [08:39] tfheen: yep, I did that at Saturday [08:39] tfheen: the new m-f-locale-all is also in [08:39] pitti: excellent, thanks. === reda_ea [n=reda@adsl196-171-65-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@BSN-77-152-53.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] fabbione: you filed bug 67686? [08:51] Malone bug 67686 in Ubuntu "[feisty] please package libvirt" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67686 [08:52] it's on the spec, why does it need to be done before feisty opens? [08:52] ajmitch: yes [08:52] I've got packages mostly done, so I might as well reassign to myself [08:52] ajmitch: because i am already updating the packages that i maintain [08:52] ajmitch: up to you.. i just need that thingy [08:53] i know zul does all the xen stuff.. [08:53] so virtualization and that .. = zul :) [08:53] bah, not all :) [08:53] he has his silent helpers === Lure_ [n=lure@BSN-77-152-53.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:54] ajmitch: ok so stop complaning and work silent slave^helper [08:54] :P === carlos [n=carlos@75.Red-88-0-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-238-192.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@83-131-22-13.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-478f5ed84cf00949] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dexem [n=dani@131.Red-80-35-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.5.172.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B3122.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:33] tfheen: what's your deadline for uploading simple bug fixes for edgy? someone pointed me at bug 61687; it's a mere s/dapper/edgy/, but requires a new firefox upload [09:33] Malone bug 61687 in firefox "in EDGY, searchplugin 'debsearch' searches for packages in dapper" [Undecided,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61687 [09:33] good morning [09:33] pitti: I just uploaded a new firefox since the last one ftbfs-ed. I don't think I want any more simple bug fixes in; -updates. === janimo [n=jani@Home04482.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:34] tfheen: alright [09:34] I guess it should really be on the release checklist. === tfheen goes to add. [09:35] tfheen: how about a fix for iptables (not yet built) that just adds -fno-stack-protector? [09:35] fixes bug 66681 [09:35] Malone bug 66681 in iptables "libipt_icmp.so: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66681 [09:36] Riddell: is a11y on the kubuntu CD working well? [09:36] tfheen: hm, an FTBFS fix for 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu1? [09:36] pitti: yes [09:36] tfheen: the .changes on e-changes looks weird, no orig.tar.gz [09:39] pitti: uh, that'd be weird. It did almost build, though [09:40] tfheen: maybe the -changes emails just don't contain orig.tar.gz file lines, I never checked === Administrator [n=Administ@81.58.38.138] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] is the kernel_panic acpi issue already fixed in 2.6.17 ( acpi_hw_low_level_read ) bug 61848? [09:40] Malone bug 61848 in linux-source-2.6.17 "[edgy] kernel panic after last update" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61848 === mnepton [n=mneptok@montreal.canonical.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [09:42] Administrator: you already asked in #ubuntu-kernel 2 seconds ago. If the bug is open it means that has not been fixed [09:43] when will this be fixed? [09:43] not in edgy.. === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma [09:49] 2.6.18 is already out, when will this be uploaded to edgy? [09:50] edgy is about to be released in 4 days.. there will be no .18 [09:51] you guys releasing edgy while people have kernel panics? [09:51] Administrator: dude, I seriously suggest you calm down [09:51] Administrator: yes, we do that. [09:51] Administrator: yes. [09:51] I need to deliver 500 pc running edgy [09:52] Administrator: now, please let us concentrate on the release. There will be no changes to the kernel in edgy. [09:52] they all have via chipsets === shawarma is now known as shawarma_away === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@174.167-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === test [n=test@81.58.38.138] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] irc client borked. [09:56] ajmitch: uh, that's quite bad, but I think we'll put that in -updates. [09:56] So I will just have to use the fix that is suggested by the mailing list [09:56] tfheen: alright, just getting a fix together for it to test [09:57] fabbione: libvirt packages are 95% done :) [09:57] ajmitch: ok === stub [n=stub@carl-sgc-sg-1.inter-touch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-09290b7870d85fa5] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Xoff is now known as Xof === Chipzz [n=chipzz@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be] has joined #Ubuntu-Devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] dholbach, Riddell: are we going to updated qt for the security release qt just made, or provide it in the security repo after the release (by either using 4.2.1 and 3.3.7, or via backported changes) ? [10:26] s/updated/update/ [10:26] rideout: that's something where you'd like to have keescook and pitti in the loop :) [10:26] of course [10:27] but, at this late stage in the game, how is such a thing handled? [10:27] how big are the changes? [10:27] rideout: it's a normal security fix and we haven't held up the release for those in the past. [10:28] so I'm not going to hold it up this time either; normal security queue is best. [10:28] the packages are ready [10:28] but I agree that fixing this post-release works just as wlel [10:28] well [10:28] cool, I was just curious, either is ok with me [10:29] dholbach: I'm running a diff now, Trolltech's security annoucement is way to vague to know what they changed === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.27.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.27.dynamic.phpg.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A66624.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pepsiman [n=malcolm@82-33-127-97.cable.ubr05.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [n=michael@dialin111247.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:41] dholbach: "Fixed a potential security issue which could arise when transforming images from untrusted sources." This affects only QImage and maintains both forward and backward compatibility (source and binary) with Qt 4.2.0. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:42] dholbach, rideout: Riddell already has a patch for it, it's quite small and straightforward [10:42] so, no need for further research [10:42] super [10:43] great [10:51] it should be in the upload queue === heno [n=henrik@host-81-191-167-206.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === janimo [n=jani@Home04482.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [11:04] pitti: Feel like looking at a fetchmail build failure? It looks to be l10n-related, which is one of your specialties. [11:04] sure === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma [11:06] pitti: Want me to bounce a log, or will you just reproduce it locally and play from there? [11:07] infinity: I'll look on the launchpad log, but I'll reproduce it locally anyway === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] pitti: LP log is fine, autotest log isn't. [11:07] oh, I guess there won't be an LP log; nevermind, will try locally === ViRiDiS79 [n=viridis@vodsl-2201.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@15.219.201.69] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:08] infinity: why didn't I get email about the FTBFS? [11:08] pitti: Relevant bit is this: [11:08] rm -f ja.gmo && /usr/bin/msgfmt -c --statistics -o ja.gmo ja.po [11:08] ja.po:8: nplurals = 1... [11:08] ja.po:162: ...but some messages have 2 plural forms [11:08] /usr/bin/msgfmt: found 1 fatal error [11:08] 619 translated messages. [11:08] make[1] : *** [ja.gmo] Error 1 [11:09] mdz: See, I think there was a failure to communicate there. I was told that we weren't ready for widespread rollout of the notify_owner feature, and when a large number of people hopped on IRC to complain about suddenly being spammed in the last (and final) mass-give-back for edgy, I quickly turned it off in the config. [11:09] sounds like a broken translation to me [11:10] mdz: Hence whyI pinged you IRC about it instead, though. [11:10] infinity: spammed how? [11:10] mdz: I'll talk to cprov, but I think we need a way to say "this build's already sent a notification, never do it again". Otherwise, every mass-give-back will tell people over and over again that a package that's been failing for months still is. [11:11] mdz: There was one Debian maintainer who is active in LP (but doesn't maintain anything in Ubuntu) who was surprised to get notified about build failures in his Debian packages, and then others who were just non-plussed about getting a mess of mails from the mass-retry. [11:11] I see === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:11] I didn't realize retries weren't accounted for in the original spec [11:13] ogra: why isn't the edubuntu amd64 artwork fixed yet? Isn't it going to be fixed? [11:13] morning mdz [11:13] mdz: The concern was discussed, but clearly didn't filter down to the implementation phase. [11:14] mdz: And I'd been told that we weren't turning on notify_owner until post-release, so was going to discuss the remaining details then. Oh well. === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@15.219.201.69] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] mdz: Dealing with retries all through the soyuz buildd code needs some table changes and some rethinks, this isn't the only feature that could desperately use a distinction between "first try" and "the rest". [11:15] tfheen: are uploads still approved? what about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27946/ (fix gimp.desktop translation domain so the menu item is translated)? [11:16] seb128: tfheen was hoping to close the archive for anything <= ship. [11:16] tfheen, working on it [11:16] seb128: Unless it's critical. [11:16] it's not critical for sure, it's "only a translation" [11:16] seb128: is that useful without updating the langpacks too? [11:17] tfheen: yes, it makes the translations being used [11:17] Argh, speaking of <= ship, we still have a mess of stuff in the queue. :/ [11:17] that's only for the menu item [11:17] not for gimp itself [11:17] seb128: oh, so it'll read "Gimp image editor" in all languages? === shawarma is now known as shawarma_away [11:17] tfheen: Care to run through the queue with me, and we can accpet or hold (for later acceptance if rebuilding CDs, or rejection if not) each? [11:17] tfheen: universe uploads will still be accepted through? [11:17] infinity: please. [11:17] tfheen: correct, that's what it does atm [11:18] seb128: -updates, then. [11:18] -proposed you mean? [11:18] tfheen: Kay, let me get a list without universe. [11:18] seb128: well, yes, and then -updates. [11:18] I'm not sure I feel like started the whole -updates procedure for it [11:18] ajmitch: talk to dholbach about that, I have enough with main. [11:18] mdz, BenC: http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/57802.html [11:18] I'll keep that somewhere for later [11:18] tfheen: : [11:18] 112718 | S- | kdelibs | 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 | 13 hours [11:18] | * kdelibs/4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 Component: main Section: kde [11:18] 112717 | S- | kde-guidance | 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 | 13 hours [11:18] | * kde-guidance/0.7.0-0ubuntu4 Component: main Section: kde === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma [11:19] can someone from the archive-admins please take care of bug #67436? firefox-locale-tr needs to be removed [11:20] Riddell: ^^ what is the debdiff for those? [11:21] jdub: it's needed for desktopsecure in dapper-commercial... about "*disable* some of the anti-rootkit features the kernel employs" I don't know... === infinity_ [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:21] How convenient. [11:21] I either hung irssi or screen. Pick one. [11:21] tfheen: What was the last line that got through on my paste? [11:22] infinity_: 11:18 < infinity> | * kde-guidance/0.7.0-0ubuntu4 Component: main [11:22] 112688 | S- | qt4-x11 | 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 | 41 hours [11:22] | * qt4-x11/4.2.0-1ubuntu6 Component: main Section: libs [11:22] 112687 | S- | qt-x11-free | 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 | 41 hours [11:22] | * qt-x11-free/3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 Component: main Section: libs [11:22] Right. Done, then. [11:22] dholbach: i know what it's for; doesn't mean it's right ;-) [11:22] Those two are security fixes, they can be rejected and go to -security if you'd prefer. [11:23] infinity, tfheen: ok to upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/fetchmail.ftbfs.diff ? === Kamion [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] jdub: I wouldn't expect BenC to patch common code for the sake of those modules, so whatever craziness they employ is limited to users who decide to use desktopsecrue [11:23] desktopsecure, rather [11:24] pitti: looks good to me. [11:24] BenC: do you want any log references for a suspend-problem? (won't resume) In case, which ones? === malcc [n=malcolm@host86-135-237-55.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] tfheen: ok, uploaded === infinity_ [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity grumbles. === ViRiDiS79 [n=viridis@vodsl-2201.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] Okay, should be back for good now. [11:26] I hate computers... [11:27] mvo, do you happen to have an amd64 edubuntu install left ? i installed i386 over mine, and need to test the edubuntu usplash fix [11:29] ogra: I have one left I think, yes [11:29] ogra: you need a upgrade test? [11:29] ogra: or a fresh install test? [11:29] i only need to know if that looks ok -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu-artwork-usplash_0.1.0-45_i386.deb [11:29] tfheen: Right, so, back to the queue. :/ [11:29] upgrading the package should suffice [11:29] infinity: use a pastebin? [11:30] err [11:30] argh [11:30] :) no amd64 pkg? [11:30] crap ... indeed i have no amd64 chroot left either [11:30] grmbl [11:30] ogra: I can build it here [11:30] ogra: just point me to the source pkg === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] tfheen: http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/queue.txt [11:31] tfheen: publisher is still manul right now, BTW, so we can shove things in ASAP, if you approve anything. [11:31] mvo, scp'ing ... takes a second the tgz is big === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:32] tfheen: And firefox is still building, so not losing any time yet. :) [11:32] infinity: fetchmail is ok. [11:32] what is the changelog for the pppoeconf change? [11:32] ditto for ubuntu-docs [11:33] tfheen, bug 54383 for pppoeconf [11:33] bug #54383 [11:33] pppoeconf (1.10ubuntu3) edgy; urgency=low [11:33] . [11:33] * Remove broken zenity support, backport from Debian pppoeconf 1.12 [11:33] (Closes Malone: #54383) [11:33] Gloubiboulga: bots are being rebooted === shawarma is now known as shawarma_away [11:34] gnomefreak, ok [11:34] infinity: pppoeconf approved. [11:35] ubuntu-docs (6.10.4) edgy; urgency=low [11:35] . [11:35] * Updating omf files for getting-help [11:35] * Removing es_ES locale for aboutubuntu (duplicate of es) - bug 66819 [11:35] Gloubiboulga: any idea about xfce4-appfinder? === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B2E42.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:35] infinity: debdiff looks sane? [11:35] tfheen, not at all [11:35] tfheen: Need to make one. Sec. [11:36] infinity, i got a mail about nbd FTBFSing on ia64 and have no clue whats wrong there [11:36] ogra: don't care about ia64 for now. [11:36] ogra: I couldn't care less about ia64 failures at this point. [11:37] (Well, I could care less, I suppose...) [11:37] Okay, debdiff on ubuntu-docs takes forever... [11:37] tfheen: ah, thanks for sneaking the debsearch firefox fix in; now we have two accepted 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu2 versions on -changes, let's start the race :) [11:37] tfheen, oki [11:37] mvo, its up on p.u.c, 0.1.0-45 [11:37] pitti: That's cause I accepted it and then rejected it from the accepted queue. [11:37] ah [11:38] pitti: Could be fun to send "just kidding" messages to -changes when that happens, but it's pretty rare. :) === giskard [n=giskard@213-156-52-106.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] ogra: ok, I will check it out now [11:38] ta === jack_wyt_ [n=Jack@61.149.4.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:39] infinity: what does the xfce4-appfinder changelog look like? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] xfce4-appfinder (4.3.90.2-0ubuntu2) edgy; urgency=low [11:40] . [11:40] * debian/patches/00_fix_crash_on_start.patch: Fix crash on starting [11:40] based on patch from Xfce bugzilla. (LP #51373) [11:41] tfheen: http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/ubuntu-docs.diff [11:41] 1.2MB. Ugh. [11:41] infinity: xfce4-appfinder seems to come from janimo, so approved. === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] we should probably do something about iptables :-/ [11:41] anyone looking at that? [11:41] (bug 66681) [11:41] Kamion: I was [11:42] Malone bug 66681 in iptables "libipt_icmp.so: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local" [Unknown,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66681 [11:42] Kamion: FTBFS, or actually runtime-broken? [11:42] infinity: runtime [11:42] Oh, needs -fno-stack [11:42] Kamion: seems to just be icmp, though [11:42] How the heck did it ever get that symbol defined in the first place? That should be a build failure, not a runtime failure. [11:42] Woo. [11:43] it's a shared object, so gcc won't complain about missing symbols [11:43] Oh, fair point. [11:43] if it were a fully linked executable, it'd be a build failure [11:43] Yeah. DSOs, for the loss. [11:43] s/gcc/ld/ I guess [11:43] Kamion: verified, it's just ICMP, so I think -updates is appropriate. [11:44] tfheen: disagreed [11:44] $ for x in `dpkg -L iptables | fgrep .so`; do nm -D $x | grep -q stack_chk && echo $x; done [11:44] /lib/iptables/libipt_conntrack.so [11:44] /lib/iptables/libipt_icmp.so [11:44] /lib/iptables/libipt_rpc.so [11:44] /lib/iptables/libip6t_icmpv6.so [11:44] conntrack's kinda bad to lose? [11:44] conntrack = important [11:44] /lib/iptables/libip6t_policy.so [11:44] Yeah, conntrack is my friend. === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B2E42.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:45] ok, agreed then. [11:45] ajmitch: go ahead. [11:45] ajmitch: -fno-stack-protector in CFLAGS should fix it up nicely. [11:46] ajmitch: And once you've uloaded, be so kinda as to update wiki.u.c/GccSsp? :) [11:46] infinity: sure [11:46] dholbach: Since ajmitch is busy working on main for us, want to do some quick universe queue approvals with me? [11:46] infinity: certainly [11:47] infinity: sure [11:47] dholbach: http://cerberus.0c3.net/~adconrad/queue.txt === Stephan_abroad [n=Stephan_@host81-155-234-78.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] infinity: I don't fee comfortable with the -docs update; it touches too much of the build system. [11:48] mdke: ^^ ; Can we put it in updates instead? [11:48] infinity: fai, fai-kernels, eclipse, eclipse-pydev are approved [11:48] tfheen: If it fixed scrollkeeper spew, I'm all for it (cron.monthly hates me), otherwise, I'm with you on the "man, that's big and fiddly". === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@15.219.201.69] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:50] infinity: libadabindx is fine too [11:50] infinity, texmaker has been approved by ajmitch yesterday, and scite by siretart on bug 61033 [11:50] Malone bug 61033 in scite "Tabs don't function properly under edgy" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61033 [11:50] Erggh, there were two eclipse uploads in there. === infinity grumbles and goes to look. [11:51] good, firefox built now [11:51] infinity: enigmail-locales too [11:51] infinity: it's more that I don't want to touch the build system at this point. [11:52] infinity: wherami too (bug 67499) [11:52] Malone bug 67499 in whereami "testssid uses wrong interpreter" [Low,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67499 [11:52] And the eclipse uploads were identical. Phew. === infinity rejects a random one. [11:52] tfheen: FYI, I uploaded new winfoss tarballs on saturday (/w FF RC3). I take it you still pull those into builds automatically? === archis_ [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [11:52] (or is it all on manual now?) === cypher1_ [n=cypher1@15.219.201.69] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:55] tfheen: Done with the main queue, or have a few more before I kick the publisher? [11:55] dholbach: azureus, user-he, adasockets, nautilus-script-manager, gch? [11:55] infinity: azureus is fine too - looking up the others [11:55] gch was an FBFS fix from StevenK. [11:56] gch is fine too (bug 65453) [11:56] Malone bug 65453 in gch "[UNMETDEPS] gch has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65453 [11:56] ogra: bootup splash looks ok, splash-down looks strange (but that might be X confusing the grafic board), I can give it another go on a different graphic board === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:56] i suppose that nautilus-script-manager is bug 67542 [11:56] Malone bug 67542 in nautilus-script-manager "enable script doesn't expand ~" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67542 [11:56] if that's it - looks fine too [11:56] nautilus-script-manager (0.0.5-0ubuntu4) edgy; urgency=low [11:56] . [11:57] * Change script shell to /bin/bash (Closes: Malone #67542) [11:57] mvo, that would be great, thanks [11:57] heno: yes, thanks. [11:57] infinity: no, I'm happy. [11:57] infinity: ok, fine with me [11:57] infinity: Riddell apparently isn't around to answer for the k* stuff, so I'll defer those. [11:57] adasockets 1.8.4.7-4 fixes the unmet dependencies, I was looking at it yesterday... I'm not sure what's in -2ubuntu1, but a sync would be preferable, wouldn't it? [11:57] dholbach: Probbaly the wrong fix (dash expands ~ too, i's just more picky about how you quote it), but whatever, it'll work. [11:57] infinity: user-he is a unmetdeps fix - fine too [11:58] infinity: i wouldn't want it to go through n+1 iterations now. :-) [11:58] dholbach: adasockets is another StevenK gnat special. [11:58] heno: automatic [11:58] heno: though builds themselves are on manual [11:59] infinity: ok, looks good [11:59] Okay, that clears the universe queue completely, publishing the world. === dholbach hugs infinity [11:59] Kamion: k, thanks [12:00] Err, wait. [12:00] tfheen: Are we doing anything other than -server on sparc? (like an alternate?) [12:00] tfheen: Cause firefox isn't done there. [12:00] Actually, we need another cycle for ppoe anyway. === infinity publishes. [12:00] does anyone here have two abtteries in a i386 laptop and sees bug 60442 ? [12:00] Malone bug 60442 in gnome-power "Dual / Two Batteries, shutdown on empty expansion battery. (GPM does not recognises second battery on hotplug)" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60442 [12:00] *batteries even [12:01] ogra: I think it was Lure who had one [12:01] he's not here :/ [12:02] infinity: not that I know of, no. [12:02] ogra: It's a well-known bug... [12:02] seems upstream fixed it in CVS on friday ... the fix is small enough that i'd apply it, but not if i cant get it tested [12:02] ogra: It's triggering events on battery state rather than whole-system state. [12:02] ogra: Two batteries (and one dying completely) is an esoteric enough setup that it's fine for -proposed/-updates post-release. [12:03] well, mjg59 complained about it being a regression [12:03]