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ianmacgregorjojoman02: Try some of these: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22zenity+tutorial%22&btnG=Google+Search12:00
rcarrQuash: then cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /media/floppy12:01
ianmacgregorjojoman02: Never mind, those aren't very helpful either <sigh>12:01
wweaselmarcrosoft: alright. Well, there seems to be an error with it somehow. Try reinstalling it.12:01
skavengeis there an avenue to take to speak to canonical about how the ubuntu channels are being run, being that they have the overall say in the matter? apparently ubuntuforums is not the right avenue as they want nothing to do with the irc aspect, but the abuse is obvious as the sky is blue12:01
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Quashrcarr: what are floppies?12:02
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Quashrcarr: just joking.12:02
jojoman02ianmacgregor: yeah i just noticed, i'll look round12:02
crimsunskavenge: to what are you referring?12:02
marcrosoftwweasel, the first error message that i posted is that is happening when i try to reinstall lftp12:02
variantskavenge: what abuse?12:02
fabio_a question, how can i set permission on shared directory? i view it with network browser of ubuntu...where it mount those directory?12:02
rcarrQuash: Haha, I was going to say...hmmm12:02
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crimsunskavenge: we do have governance: see the Community Council, for instance.12:02
skavengeim not going to get into it im just looking for an email address or link12:02
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Quashrcarr: looking back at your messages.  Yes, this is a problem booting off the Live CD 386 and the DVD.12:03
kitcheskavenge: umm maybe canonical website has one12:03
wweaselmarcrosoft: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall lftp" tell me what it does12:03
ianmacgregorjojoman02: It might be helpful to look through these scripts to see if you can find anything about it: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-archiving.php12:03
crimsunskavenge: if it's a community issue, please add your item(s) to the next Community Council meeting agenda, and show up for the meeting.12:03
ianmacgregorjojoman02: Those are script dealing with archiving.12:03
rcarrQuash: Ok, well it sounds like a Xorg problem, so checking the logs and stuff seems best12:03
jojoman02ianmacgregor: gracias12:03
rcarrQuash: Also: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:03
ferrouswheelHi all. I've got a an ubuntu server running samba. my ubuntu desktop usually is fine connecting but during intensive access the smbio daemon goes to 100% cpu usage and the samba mount  point can longer be stat'ed12:03
rcarrQuash: And select the right options for your video card and monitor and stuff12:03
crimsunskavenge: be sure that all parties involved are aware and will be present at said meeting12:03
rcarrQuash: then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"12:04
rcarrQuash: Then control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM12:04
marcrosoftwweasel, dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 3232 package `lftp':12:04
marcrosoft missing version12:04
marcrosoftE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)12:04
rcarrQuash: Maybe try that before the log stuff, because that could very well fix it12:04
fabio_anyone can help me?12:04
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Noob1hum i hae a question12:05
junkyif im going to system -> prefs-> sound, any idea why the default card isnt the right one?12:05
Noob1dose the server vresion have a gui12:05
junkyim i play anything, this is on my other card.12:05
rcarrNoob1: No, you can install one though12:05
Quashrcarr: just copying all this down.  Very helpful and appreciated!12:05
rcarrQuash: No problem, good luck12:05
wweaselmarcrosoft: ok, same thing. I am not an expert in this, so I am trying to look it up12:05
ferrouswheelFunnily, I can still access the samba share through nautilus/konqueror, just not through the mount point - so the server seems fine. the smbiod process must just have some kind of bug12:05
Quashrcarr: So, try this before the log stuff??12:05
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Quashsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:06
skavengecrimsun: my point being i want to speak to someone in charge vs an op thats going to give me lip service on the issue, the ops must have to answer to someone or is it free reign on irc? if so ubuntu's idea of community is quite misguided12:06
Quashsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:06
QuashThen control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM12:06
wweaselmarcrosoft, I found this: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/faq.en.html#comp-general.dpkg-parse-error12:06
rcarrQuash: Yeah12:06
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Quashrcarr: great.  quick question...12:06
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Noob1rcarr: were can i get a gui or is there a way just to put ir on ubuntu12:06
crimsunskavenge: the "some [people]  in charge" are known as the Community Council.12:06
variantskavenge: its users helping users, not a corporation (the irc i mean)12:06
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Quashrcarr: I still start the above with alt + ctrl + F6 or F1?12:07
rcarrNoob1: From the server edition, you could run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to get gnome and a bunch of GUI config programs12:07
snikkeranyones has experience with vmware?12:07
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rcarrQuash: Either one12:07
rcarrQuash: Or anything inbetween for that matter12:07
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fabio_snikker me12:07
variantskavenge: so go to ubuntu.com, get the contact email and stop trolling here12:07
Quashrcarr: :) k.  So, when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the black screen...12:07
rcarreQuash: No, after hitting control+alt+FSomething12:08
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rcarrQuash: And at the prompt12:08
skavengevariant: you and i dont have powers some others in the channel have that may abuse them for their own amusement, im not trolling12:08
Quashrcarr: will this go stick with the CD or could it reconfigure my installed Breezy?12:08
marcrosoftwweasel, ok, going to try that12:08
rcarrQuash: It will stick with the CD12:08
rcarrQuash: If it still doesn't work, try the Alternate Install CD12:08
variantskavenge: here you go: http://www.canonical.com/contact12:08
rcarrQuash: It has an installer like breezys, the console based one12:08
Will!channels12:08
ubotuA list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - UBuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat12:08
rcarrQuash: And pretty much always works12:08
junkywhy i cant root@troy:/home/junky# rmmod snd_atiixp12:08
junkyERROR: Module snd_atiixp is in use12:08
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junkythis is not busy, i mean, theres no apps which are requesting sound atm12:09
ErwinAny magic option to make metacity desktop switching performance better on this nvidia 4200 card? switching to/from evolution, opera etc. seems a bit sluggish as the windows is redrawn.12:09
Quashrcarr: I tried the Altnerate CD and the text was working, but I didn't want to wipe my HD and then find, at the end, I end up with the same black screen at GDM Login with no Breezy to boot back in to.12:09
marcrosoftwweasel, that messed it up worse12:09
variantjunky: killall esd/artsd etc12:09
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marcrosoftwweasel, getting Segmentation fault (core dumped) ... now for anything to do with apt12:09
b03ntohow do i get rid off hibernate button in gnome poweroff menu ?12:09
rcarrQuash: You can partition stuff in the alternate install Cd the same as in the live CD12:10
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wweaselmarcrosoft: Crap. I didn't want to suggest that straight off because it was slightly different from your error message. Did you make a backup of your original file before overwriting it?12:10
rcarrQuash: I think the menu item is "Manually Edit Partition Tables", it's a bit more cumbersome because you have to manually enter sizes and stuff, but not so bad12:10
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temptedwoop... i still love dapper :)12:10
Quashrcarr: yes, I've burned myself with partitioning a couple of times before so am a bit gunshy.12:11
marcrosoftwweasel, normally i do.. but i didn't think it would mess it up that badly12:11
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Quashrcarr: off to try this at black screen...12:11
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Quashrcarr: alt + ctrl + F612:11
Quashsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:11
junkyvariant: thx, ive been able to unload my mod, but even if i selected my other snd card in system->prefs->sound, im getting errors12:11
Quashsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:11
QuashThen control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM12:11
ianmacgregorQuash: Yes, that will reconfigure X and restart it12:11
wweaselmarcrosoft: erg..I don't know what to tell you and I wish I could help, but that's uncharted territory for me.12:12
Quashrcarr: If nothing comes up when I do Ctrl + Alt + F6 at black screen, what should I do?12:12
godmachine81you having xorg update problems from dapper to edgy12:12
godmachine81or something?12:12
marcrosoftwweasel, well thanks anyways..12:12
marcrosoftbrb12:12
raghow to emulate old games12:12
rcarrQuash: If nothing comes up when you press ctrl+alt+f6 then it's a pretty serious crash, stick with the alternate CD if that happens12:12
ragwith DOSEMU?12:12
Quashrcarr: it's reconfiguring X from the CD and re-starting the CD without touching my installed Breezy?  okay.12:13
ianmacgregorQuash: You can CTRL+ALT+F6 now and see what it looks like and then CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back here. it just takes you to tty6 and back, doesn't hurt anything12:13
rcarrQuash: Yeah, won't touch breezy12:13
ragplease if somebody know links for games, old games and good games, please say me!!!12:13
rcarrQuash: It doesn't restart the CD though, it just restarts the GUI12:13
ragmy customer need it a lot,12:13
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rcarrQuash: But, you can upgrade to edgy, from within breezy, with no CD involved12:13
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rcarrQuash: That might be an option for you as well12:13
Quashrcarr: just tried F6 F7 now.  Thanks.12:13
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wweaselmarcrosoft: Hold up a sec, it seems like that shouldn't have changed anything. Fink (the software the link I sent you was about) is for Mac OS X. /sw/var etc. doesn't exist. so if you followed the "solution" it proposed, it shouldn't have changed anything on your computer12:14
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Tokenbadwhen I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known  :  Can anyone tell me what this means?12:14
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Tokenbadanyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...12:14
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ianmacgregorrag: This should keep you busy for a while: http://www.happypenguin.org/12:14
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Quashrcarr: Yes, that's what I actually want to do.  breezy > dapper > edgy within OS.  But, I wanted to make sure I had a workable CD first, in case something blew up, as I read that it often does. =12:14
ragianmacgregor, thanks ian!12:15
ianmacgregorrag: You're welcome :)12:15
fabio_a question, how can i set permission on shared directory? i view it with network browser of ubuntu...where it mount those directory?12:15
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Quashrcarr: I always like to be able to start from scratch from CD, if I have to.12:15
Seveasfabio_, that's not mounted12:15
sipherOk, I screwed up bad and need some help. Installed Ubuntu but it created 2 partitions instead of one each sized at 50 gigs.. which I didn't want (I wasn't paying attention).. so like a dumbass I deleted them from win and now Grub wont let me boot. Everyone told me to boot from the XP CD and do fixmbr but it wont let me boot from that one.. I can only boot from Ubuntu's CD. How do I fix it? :S12:15
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somewhere!repositories12:15
Sir_Brizzis it okay to dist-upgrade from Breezy to Edgy?12:15
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:15
rcarrQuash: Ah, ok well good luck12:16
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LjLsipher: boot from the ubuntu CD, do a reinstall (with the proper partition you want to end up with, this time), and you'll have grub again12:16
Quashianmacgregor: thanks for letting me know I could F6 F7 now.  Didn't realize it.12:16
fabio_seveas: and how can change permission? i need to set execution12:16
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ianmacgregorQuash: :)12:16
Seveasfabio_, you can't12:16
Quashrcarr: thanks for the helpful advice.  I'll try now.  Your thorough help has been very much appreciated.  :)12:16
Seveasand you can't execute things from network things you browse that way12:16
sipherLjL: Ok, I'll try it.. thanks12:17
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ragianmacgregor, and games packs for ubuntu?12:17
jribSir_Brizz: it is recommended that you do not skip releases.  You should go breezy > dapper > edgy12:17
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ragdo you know games packs for ubuntu?12:18
xipietotecI have a big problem...I'm updating from dapper to edgy....but it just stopped the upgrade due to dependancy errors.12:18
fabio_they are video...i need to execute it in my ubuntu...i can't every time copy it in this pc and then lunch it12:18
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ianmacgregorrag: I can only recommend going into Synaptic and diong a search for games.. since I don't install anyting that isn't in the repos12:18
Quashrcarr: thanks, rcarr.  I'm rebooting to try now.12:18
somewhereMy system is totally effed. How can I reinstall the whole thing using Synaptic or apt?12:18
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ianmacgregorrag: Actually, do a search for games in synaptic, there are tons of them there in the repos12:18
Quashrcarr: thanks very much. l8r.12:19
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ianmacgregorsomewhere: Might it be a better idea to see if someone here can help fix the problems you're having rather than re-install the OS?12:19
ragok yeah12:19
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ragwww.ubuntugames.org! is good12:19
ianmacgregorrag: Excellent, didn't know that one12:19
xipietotecseriously, If anyone can help, I'm stuck and cannot upgrade to edgy, as I came up with too many dependancy errors not even half-way through the install.12:19
junkyvariant: any idea why i cant root@troy:/home/junky# rmmod snd_ca010612:20
junkyERROR: Module snd_ca0106 is in use12:20
xipietotechelp?12:20
jribxipietotec: try pastebinning your errors, maybe someone can suggest soemthing12:20
xipietotecokay, hold on12:20
junkyno art or esd process are currently running12:20
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piglitik ga slapen12:21
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gyoffibye12:22
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phireSo, When is the final of Edgy going to be released?12:23
variantphire: 26th12:24
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variantjunky: yeah, kill esd or whatever12:24
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variantjunky: you can use the fuser command to find whats holding it open.12:24
variantim off to bed now12:24
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variantnight all12:24
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junkyvariant: night and many thx for today12:24
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xipietotecokay, here's a small chunk of the errors I'm getting from trying to update to edgy: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/21600612:25
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snikkeranyones have experience with vmware?12:25
variantjunky: np12:25
phirevarient: damm, same day xtra 'upgrades' ADSL and the internet will crawl to a halt12:25
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xipietotecas far as I can tell it's a repetitive error that's causing it to not install.12:25
Seveasxipietotec, try this: dpkg --configure -a12:25
Seveasxipietotec, then apt-get -f install12:26
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Seveasthen apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:26
LjLsnikker: i've used the packaged player.12:26
Seveasthen apt-get dist-upgrade12:26
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ianmacgregorSeveas: What do each of those commands do?12:26
ianmacgregorI been meaning to ask this12:26
marcrosoftso every time i try to install something with apt.. I'm getting "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" it looks like I might need to reinstall apt... how can i do this?12:26
Tarkuswould anyone here recommend the x64 version over the x86 version of ubuntu?12:26
snikkerLjL: i've got a troubble with server version...12:27
Seveasianmacgregor, try to configure half installd packages, fix dependency errors, install ubuntu0desktop to be sure, do a dist-upgrade12:27
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xipietotectrying now Seveas thankyou =)12:27
LjLsnikker, i haven't used that one.12:27
ianmacgregorSeveas: Ahh, thank you12:27
vgeis there a way to start xubuntu install without graphic interface?12:27
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LjLvge: use the Alternate CD12:27
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mjrTarkus, if you don't mind the proprietary software that will be more difficult to run, sure12:27
vgeLjL: so there is no way with the other?12:28
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iMaxhi12:28
LjLvge: no, i don't think so.12:28
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Lam_how does kde handle hidden folders?  gnome does it by a dot prefix12:28
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xipietotecerr..... the dpkg --configure -a quit because of dependancy problemw12:28
xipietotecproblems12:28
LjLLam_: Linux in general uses the convention of hiding files that being with a dot.12:28
ianmacgregorLam_: the "." is a Linux thing, KDE does it too12:28
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snikkerLjL: ok12:29
Seveasxipietotec, then apt-get -f install12:29
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Lam_how come the folders in root are all hidden in kde?12:29
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Seveasxipietotec, and paste the output at paste.ubuntu-nl.org please (pastebin.ca is almost unreadable, stupid black on blue)12:29
tjb891 is there a way to see the  pictures in peoples profiles in gaim?12:29
rcarrLam: They aren't hidden, konqueror isn't showing them because your user account doesn't have write access to them12:29
xipietotecwhat's the -f do?12:29
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LjLLam_: you're using Edgy, correct?12:30
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Lam_yes :)12:30
jribtjb891: what protocol?  wfm with aim users12:30
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Lam_is there a way to make konqueror show them then, but keep hidden folders hidden?12:30
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tjb891yeah, the aim proctocol12:30
rcarrLam: It's new in edgys version of konqueror, presumambly, I am not sure how to disable it12:30
sipherInstall isn't giving me the option of resizing current partitions and making new ones now.. all it gives me is "Erase entire disk.." :S12:30
Seveasxipietotec, fix12:30
xipietotecah, simple enough12:30
Lam_rcarr: ok thanks. i'll ask in +1 then12:30
rcarrLam: You can still get to them by typing out the path...I don't use konqueror for file browsing though, so no clue12:30
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jribtjb891: should just work, their buddy icon should show up in the corner of the message window12:30
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LjLLam_: then join #ubuntu+1. anyway, either Edgy or KDE 3.5.5 (not sure which one is responsible) has made most folders hidden by default in dialogs and file browsers. in dialogs, you can right click and choose to view all files - in konqueror i'm not sure12:31
wobblerduane, hello12:31
tjb891jrib:no i mean in there profile it dosen't display the pictures, only text12:31
SenesenceIs there any way to have the same "Background Transparency" effect option in Gedit or Vim like the one in Xterm?12:31
jribtjb891: oh, I didn't even know that was possible12:31
tjb891it is in the AOL version12:31
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SeveasLjL, kde12:32
_ionWhen i want to do a server installation with RAID+LVM, should i choose the alternate CD or the server CD? I'm assuming the alternate install CD, but i'd like to make sure.12:32
jribtjb891: maybe #gaim can help you out.  Be sure to ask tehre as well12:32
SeveasLjL, there's a .hidden_files in /12:32
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xipietotecthat seems to be working better12:32
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maxflaxattention ... support is needed12:33
LjLSeveas: hold on - you mean that a *KDE specific* feature puts a file in the root folder? (it's ".hidden" by the way, apparently) - if so, that doesn't sound good to me12:33
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SeveasLjL, yes I mean that12:33
LjLmaxflax: we are all ears12:33
Seveasand like many things in KDE: It sucks12:33
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ianmacgregorI knew there was a reason I didn't use it12:34
maxflaxLjL, it's about sound. Alsa drivers to be exact.12:34
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LjLSeveas: i won't bother disagreeing... but they definitely could put it somewhere in /etc or /usr/share or whatever12:34
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Lam_just a general question.  what's the best way to organize an extremely large music collection?12:34
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LjL(or the user's home, for that matter)12:34
LinuxGuy2006when I install Sun Java JRE, do I need to install Sun Java JDK for it to work?12:34
Seveasxipietotec, purge usplash-theme-kubuntu12:34
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SeveasLinuxGuy2006, no12:34
LinuxGuy2006thanks12:34
SenesenceIs there any way to enable transparency in Gedit or Vim? I want to have the same effect in one of those two apps as the "Transparency" on the terminal window.12:35
xipietotecSeveas: thankyou! but how would kwin and kdesktop survive?12:35
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Seveasxipietotec, because they don't depend on kdm12:35
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BlueN1njaI believe I've found a bug with F-Spot's 'web gallery' feature...12:35
SeveasSenesence, with compiz or berylyou can12:35
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LjLxipietotec, kwin and kdesktop in no way depend on KDM... they do depend on the KDE libraries though. you might want to remove kdelibs4, if you want all KDE programs to go away12:35
SenesenceSeveas: No default options for that?12:35
SeveasSenesence, no12:35
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maxflaxLjL, I wonder how one installs the newer version of alsa-base. the one in apt is 1.0.11 and the newest stable is 1.0.13.. and I wonder if I install the newer ones.. are they compatible with ubuntu and how do I do it...12:36
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xipietotecno, not all kde programs, I like quite a few of them, I was just concerned that it was still trying to boot kde every time I loaded up, and would cause ...heh...dependency issues12:36
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BlueN1njaIs there anyone here that's working on F-Spot for Edgy?12:37
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ianmacgregorBlueN1nja: You might also ask in #ubuntu+q12:37
LjLmaxflax, you'd probably need to recompile your kernel and use other black magic to achieve that. if the current drivers work, i'd advice leaving them as they are. if they don't, then there's still not much i'd be able to tell you, except for giving you a couple of pointers about kernel recompiling12:37
ianmacgregor*+112:37
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BlueN1njaianmacgregor: will do. Thanks.12:37
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erik__Hey- Question about flash 9 beta on edgy- I have tried a couple of tutorials, But both crash when I test it with youtube. Firefox just closes... It's a fresh edgy install.. Known issue? (P3 1.2Ghz IBM T23 btw)12:38
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LjLxipietotec, if you choose a Gnome session from your login manager (whether it's KDM or GDM), you'll boot Gnome. that the usplash still says "Kubuntu" doesn't really mean anything -- though you can change that if you want12:38
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ianmacgregorerik__: You might also ask in #ubuntu+112:39
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maxflaxLjL, so I must recompile the linux-kernel.. why is that.. isn't it the alsa-base drivers that need recompilation?12:39
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xipietotecLjL, cool I'll make it go away after I upgrade =) (I wasn't very fond of kde's window management setup...but many of the programs are good)12:39
BlueN1njaianmacgregor: #ubuntu+q isn't a channel12:39
BlueN1nja(sorry if I'm missing something)12:40
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ianmacgregorBlueN1nja: Yeah, typo, sorry, it's #ubuntu+112:40
LjLmaxflax, the alsa-base package doesn't contain kernel modules as far as i can see, but still i wouldn't upgrade a part of ALSA without upgrading all of it, i think12:40
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BlueN1njaianmacgregor: thanks12:40
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junkyroot@troy:/home/junky# play 03.wav12:40
junkyALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'12:40
LjLxipietotec: what do you mean by window management setup?12:40
erik__ianmacgregor: I will. Thanks!12:40
junkyhow can i use card 1 instead of card 0 ?12:40
crimsunmaxflax: alsa-base contains only the infrastructure for using alsa-driver.12:40
maxflaxLjL, so a part of the alsa is implented to the linux kernel?12:40
crimsunjunky: asoundconf list12:41
junkyroot@troy:/home/junky# asoundconf list12:41
junkyNames of available sound cards:12:41
junkyCA010612:41
crimsunmaxflax: Linux 2.6 includes ALSA (properly known upstream as alsa-kernel)12:41
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crimsunjunky: asoundconf set-default-card CA010612:41
junkythat the exact card i wanna use.12:41
xipietotecLjL: KDE looks like windows =P12:41
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LjLmaxflax: the low level drivers are12:41
crimsunmaxflax: there's also an external tree known as alsa-driver12:41
maxflaxcrimsun, ok! so compiling the 1.0.13 won't help me much then12:41
b03ntoIs there any way to make gnome use suspend2 instead of whatever it uses now (when I select "Hibernate this computer" in the logout menu)?12:42
XVampireXHey12:42
xipietotecand I didn't like the way it sorted through things and such.12:42
crimsunmaxflax: depends what your sound issue(s) is(are)12:42
XVampireXAnyone using liferea?12:42
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ianmacgregorXVampireX: I am12:42
agentwhat is the binary file /pup001? google says its from puppylinux distro, but what is it doing in ubuntu?12:42
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crimsunmaxflax: in-Linux ALSA lags external alsa-driver; the latter is synced to the kernel only every so often12:42
XVampireXiamtheobject, how do I add blogspot feeds to it?12:42
junkycrimsun: thx, thats the exact stuff i was trying to do!!!!12:42
XVampireXiamtheobject, for example this one: http://freegamer.blogspot.com/12:42
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iamtheobjectwhy me12:43
maxflaxcrimsun, well.. my problem are that alsa don't detect my digital soundcard.. only the analog part.. and I want to be able to use the spdif12:43
XVampireXiamtheobject, nevermind :P12:43
XVampireXiamtheobject, thanks anyways :P12:43
iamtheobject:-)12:43
ianmacgregorXVampireX: Feeds -> New Subscription ?12:43
XVampireXlol12:43
XVampireXsorry12:43
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crimsunmaxflax: cat /proc/asound/devices12:43
iamtheobjectI don't even know whats goin on man12:43
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ianmacgregoriamtheobject: tab completion bit him, lol12:43
XVampireXsorry12:43
iamtheobjectah ahahaha12:43
iamtheobjectits okay dude12:43
iamtheobject:-)12:43
iamtheobjectI do it too sometimes12:44
XVampireXYeah, xchat is not particularly cool about tab completion I see12:44
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LinuxGuy2006what is the Java JDK for?12:44
jribLinuxGuy2006: developing java apps12:44
LinuxGuy2006oh, ewww12:44
maxflaxcrimsun, that only shows 1 playback device..   4: [ 0- 0] : digital audio playback12:44
ianmacgregorLinuxGuy2006: lol12:44
LinuxGuy2006java sucks12:45
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crimsunmaxflax: which driver are you using?12:45
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maxflaxcrimsun, alsa-base 1.0.1112:45
plmokiuhh who said java sucks?12:45
crimsunmaxflax: no, which sound driver?12:45
maxflaxcrimsun, the one in edgy12:45
crimsunmaxflax: cat /proc/asound/modules12:45
LinuxGuy2006I will use as little JRE as nessicary to run FrostWire12:45
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LinuxGuy2006no JDK or Source12:45
maxflaxcrimsun,  0 snd_hda_intel12:46
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junkyive to go, problems solved, many thanks again crimsun, ya solved something i was working for like 6 hours!12:46
LinuxGuy2006I like the java-free design of GTK-Gnutella, but its not intuitive12:46
crimsunmaxflax: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat12:46
xipietotecI know you can retheme kde LjL but the default looks like windows...and I didn't see it do anything particularly better than gnome12:46
xipietotec=P12:46
plmokii dono man, i really like java12:47
maxflaxcrimsun, 0: Realtek ALC88012:47
crimsunmaxflax: then yes, you need to compile alsa-driver-1.0.13. I've already fixed the spdif issue upstream. A newer post-release Edgy kernel will have them.12:47
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LjLxipietotec: maybe, and since i'm a kde user i'm probably biased - but i just don't understand it when people people run Gnome and then mainly use KDE programs, or vice versa for that matter.  if it's just a matter of looks, you can (easily) change the looks.12:47
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LjLxipietotec: if you'd replied "because KDE misses such and such features", i'd have kept quiet, but if it's just "because KDE looks like windows", come on, that's quite a weak justification =)12:48
Lam_does linux have a means to detect an imminent hard drive failure before it fails?12:48
LinuxGuy2006and does anyone else get errors when installing totem-gstreamer-firefox plugin12:48
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maxflaxcrimsun, Im new to linux.. so what u are saying is.. there is already a kernel compiled for the issue. and 1.0.13 is compatible with it?12:48
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LjLLam_: sudo apt-get install smartmontools12:48
Lam_LjL: thanks12:48
curt_evening folks12:49
LinuxGuy2006LjL: I use GNOME so :-P12:49
curt_anyone here familiar with xgl?12:49
LjL!xgl > curt_12:49
iamthericenlightenment is a great wm12:49
curt_har har12:49
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jbmigelemacs does window manager kinda12:50
maxflaxcrimsun, and that I have to compile the 1.0.13 from source and do a make install?12:50
xipietotecLjL: actually I mainly use common applications, but I didn't like the way kde navigates through folders and such, plus it seemed to run slower, but I do use some of the programs. =)12:50
LinuxGuy2006and does anyone else get errors when installing totem-gstreamer-firefox plugin12:50
ianmacgregoremacs is a nice OS, hopefully someone will write a decent editor for it o.O12:50
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RogerBacontry easyubuntu12:50
crimsunmaxflax: alsa-driver-1.0.13 only, yes.12:50
LinuxGuy2006ewwww12:50
jbmigelLinuxGuy2006 i think everyone uses the mplayer plugin. why dont you?12:51
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jbmigelheh ianmacgregor12:51
LinuxGuy2006mplayer, isnt that the one that runs in text-mode12:51
eck0hey i got everything working finally, but now i cant use my mic12:51
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plmokiit can12:52
marcrosoftcan you change where ubuntu gets its files... apt is downloading very slow12:52
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spdfmarcrosoft, Yep12:52
eck0ghow do i fix that?12:52
jbmigelLinuxGuy2006 er you can control it from command line if you need, but it's firefox plugin workws fine for me12:52
maxflaxcrimsun, ok.. that is fairly easy. do I compile all the other packages too.. like alsa-utils and such? And do I leave the old alsa-base or do I uninstall those first before make install the 1.0.13?12:53
marcrosoftspdf, do you have to change each one in the source file... ?? and is there a list of fast ones?12:53
LjLianmacgregor: http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/RZ/software/emacs/evi/evi_1.html12:53
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spdfmarcrosoft, I haven't found a list online. The one I'm using is in the 400-500kb/s range.. I'll pastebin it for you12:53
marcrosoftspdf, cool thanks12:53
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javiersshi12:54
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eck0anyone know how come my mic wont work on linux but fine on windoze12:54
javierssi need mount my partition of windows but i see this message12:54
spdfmarcrosoft, http://pastebin.ca/21605712:54
jbmigelhaha LjL that link looks like a howto install trojan horse12:54
DarthVinemanCan anyone help me with gstreamer?12:54
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DarthVinemanIm having problems updating it12:55
crimsunmaxflax: leave it. Only compile alsa-driver.12:55
ubuntuhow can i do a ftp server between a ubuntu and a xp windows system12:55
marcrosoftspdf, cool thank you12:55
eck0so no1 knows why my mic wont work on linux but its fine on windows12:55
javierssi have problems whit my partition of windoze ,12:55
DarthVinemanroot@HAL:~# sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:55
DarthVinemanReading package lists... Done12:55
DarthVinemanBuilding dependency tree... Done12:55
DarthVinemanE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:55
eck0hey thats my word lol12:55
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DarthVinemanAnyone know what I should do?12:55
DarthVinemanWhats the correct thing so it will find the package?12:56
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LjL!info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:56
ubotugstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3: Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2.debian-1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 196 kB12:56
iamthericDarthVineman, apt-get unstall gstreamer12:56
LjLDarthVineman: you probably need to enable Universe.12:56
iamthericDarthVineman, apt-get install gstreamer12:56
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ink251ubuntu: apt-get install vsftpd12:56
DarthVinemanUniverse is enabled12:57
ink251ubuntu: then use internet explorer as your windows ftp client12:57
LjLDarthVineman: then run "sudo apt-get update" and try again.12:57
ink251ftp://xx.xx.xx.xx/12:57
maxflaxcrimsun, ok! alsa driver is the same as the alsa-base right? ..  I think there is a guide for compiling and installing alsa on their wiki.. is that a good one to follow?12:57
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maxflaxcrimsun, http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick+Install12:58
crimsunmaxflax: alsa-driver is the name of the source package. alsa-base is one of several binary packages generated from the alsa-driver source package.12:58
junkycrimsun: if my mute (vol+/-) on my keyboard doesnt work, any idea, what could be the problem?12:58
plamoniI am having an issue with gnome... I just did a fresh install of the Edgy beta (not the RC), I did an apt-get upgrade and now gnome seems to be broken... it takes forever to start up gnome, then when it finally starts, I get a message about the gnome-settings-daemon not responding12:58
iamthericsorry12:58
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crimsunjunky: with your CA0106?12:58
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crimsunjunky: hotkey-setup issue. It only works by default for certain sound chipsets. The ca0106 driver doesn't support it by default.12:58
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Quashrcarr: still there?  Just tried it and I'm back.12:59
maxflaxcrimsun, now I got confused! So how do I compile the alsa-driver.. is that the same as alsa-base?12:59
randomguyhow can I burn an iso image?12:59
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LjL!burn > randomguy01:00
spdfrandomguy, gnomebaker or k3b will work01:00
CaedmonAny clue where I can download the linux-headers and build-essential packages for kubuntu 6.06 LTS?01:00
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randomguyI want to mount an iso, sorry01:00
LjLCaedmon: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"01:00
LjL!mountiso > randomguy01:00
junkyso i should recompile it, with that option enabled, right?01:00
randomguy(cdrecord fails to burn in sao mode)01:00
CaedmonMy bad01:00
CaedmonWithout using Apt.01:00
crimsunmaxflax: no, you grab alsa-driver from ftp.alsa-project.org and compile it.01:00
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jribCaedmon: packages.ubuntu.com01:01
CaedmonBecause I have no net connection on my linux install01:01
spdfrandomguy, mount /path/to/iso /path/to/empty/folder -o loop01:01
eltechis ther an easy way to create a *.rar archive in gui?01:01
randomguyspdf, I have to modprobe loop right?01:01
jribCaedmon: I know build-essential should be on the cd though01:01
LjL!rar > eltech01:01
Quashanyone, I can't get in to the desktop when I boot the 6.10 RC CD/DVD?  can anyone help?01:01
spdfrandomguy, atleast I think its that01:01
jribCaedmon: the headers might be too01:01
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maxflaxcrimsun, ok.. and follow the instructions in the INSTALL should be enough right?01:01
capt-rogerswhen your watching TV, and it is recording..it says it only records for 30 minutes...is that true, and why does mythtv do that?01:01
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QuashI get an black screen after the boot splash, in the final moment when it goes in to the desktop.01:02
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lonranhi01:02
phirehello01:02
LjLCaedmon: if they're not on the CD and you've got no network, then you'll need to go to packages.ubuntu.com and download from there. however, you need to take care of the dependencies manually (i.e. for every dependency listed, download it, and do the same for every dependency's dependencies, etc)01:02
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spdfcapt-rogers, Ask in #mythtv-users01:02
xipietotecheh....I wish the upgrade command had an indicator of just how many more programs were left to upgrade01:02
lonranwhere are the downloaded packets with apt-get stored?01:03
crimsunmaxflax: essentially.01:03
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spdflonran, /var/cache/apt01:03
LjLlonran: /var/cache/apt/archives01:03
randomguyhow can I apt-cdrom from a mounted iso?01:03
lonranthnks01:03
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iamthericDarthVineman, no need for version01:03
Quashcan anyone help me with a install/boot graphics issue on the 6.10 RC cd?01:03
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iamthericlonran, hey01:04
LjLrandomguy: "apt-cdrom -d=/mount/point/for/the/iso add" i would think01:04
iamthericQuash, what display manager?01:04
maxflaxcrimsun, ok.. will try this.. and Im hoping for the best... btw.. what caused the error of the spdif?01:04
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LjLrandomguy: "apt-cdrom -m -d=/mount/point/for/the/iso add" possibly, to avoid having it try to mount it by itself01:04
randomguythanks01:05
Quashiamtheric: I'm booting from the install CD.  default option, safe graphics option and using variou F4 VGA options.  The Ubuntu CD and DVD.01:05
iamthericQuash, oh do you need a framebuffer?01:05
WebsteriumI'm having some difficulty getting machines using DHCP to accept the default domain I've set up in my dhcp3 server01:05
eltechactually .. that doesnt explain creating a .rar file01:05
iamtheric!rar01:05
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:05
WebsteriumIs it possible to send a default domain to search as part of a DHCP response? Or is this something that needs to be set up on each client01:05
lonrani have installed automatix for dapper and i have now edgy, how can i remove it using apt?01:06
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LjL!automatix01:06
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!01:06
iamthericlonran, apt-get remove automatix01:06
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Quashiamtheric: not even sure what I framebuffer is or how to use it.  Basically, the boot splash seems to chug along nicely, the the screen goes to its normal momentary black with blinking cursor before going in to the desktop.  Instead, my screen just goes black.01:06
peepsanyone here use skype?01:06
Willhow do i get to SWAT?01:07
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iamthericQuash, maybe your monitor isnt supported by x01:09
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JonBoonhmm, is there a special package i should install for audio on sites like youtube?01:09
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jbmigeliamtheric do you know of nice howto for framebuffer/01:10
tsolerhi to all01:10
Quashiamtheric: First time in years I've ever had an issue with getting in to a LiveCD.  Anything I could do to get in through a different boot parameter to a standard monitor and then reconfigure, once in?  Would that be a solution?01:10
iamthericjbmigel, no01:10
tsolerjbmigel01:10
jbmigeltsoler01:10
tsolerhi01:10
jbmigelhows it going d00d?01:10
tsolergood01:10
tsolerjust a very essential question01:11
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tsolerhow can i reduce the clicks??01:11
iamthericQuash, no idea01:11
Willhow can i install the windows driver into samba so that when i want to connect it on a windows host it doesnt require a driver?01:11
Quashiamtheric: fair enough.01:11
GhostFreemanWhenever I use Azureus, it dosen't show up in the system tray like it used to do in previous releases. Anyone know why?01:12
Will(this is for a printer)01:12
jbmigeltsoler maybe you could only type with your left hand?01:12
iamthericGhostFreeman, check azureus setting01:12
GhostFreemanwhich one?01:12
spdfGhostFreeman, It shows up in mine. Likely a config thing..01:12
tsoleris there a way to make lesser clicks?01:12
GhostFreemanyour version 2.4.0.2?01:12
spdfGhostFreeman, 2.5.0.001:12
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tsolerin onether terms how can i have automatic rollover menus?01:13
GhostFreemanoh01:13
jbmigeltsoler i dont understand. less clicks... do you mean your speakers are clicking all the time?01:13
spdfGhostFreeman, There is a config setting in Azurues to enable/disable the tray icon01:13
GhostFreemanand I have the system tray icon on, but its not there01:13
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spdfGhostFreeman, Its enabled in Azurues's config?01:13
tsolerno i mean that it would be nicer for menus to rollover after i pass over01:13
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Spaceraverlinux!pastebin01:14
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:14
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lucaferrHow do I get auto mount support for NIS based auto.master and auto.home?01:14
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tsolerafter two days of continusly working on ubuntu ive noticed : toooo many clicks01:14
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GhostFreemanspdf: yes01:15
Flanneltsoler: that's why command lines are still popular01:15
tsolerdoesnt anyone else have noticed?01:15
Spaceraverlinuxcan someone point me to the install log of dpkg and apt?? i need to pastebin those in order to solve a problem01:15
tsolercommand lines are a fast otion01:15
iamthericGhostFreeman, what window manager?01:15
jbmigeltsoler im still not sure... like you have to click your mouse... and your sad?01:15
iamtherictsoler, use a different wm01:15
tsoleroption01:15
FlannelSpaceraverlinux: /var/log/ then theres dpkg ones in there01:15
iamtherictsoler, make your own menus01:16
GhostFreemanMetacity01:16
tsoler???01:16
tsolerwm?01:16
bimberiSpaceraverlinux: /var/log/dpkg.log (apt doesn't log)01:16
Spaceraverlinuxthx... brb Flannel01:16
bruenigwm = window manager01:16
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spdfGhostFreeman, Which java runtime?01:16
tsolertwo days spenting on ubuntu : all good one thin g to say :too many clicks01:16
vryohas anyone tried running Company of Heroes on Wine?01:17
bruenigI want to use thunar but I can't figure out how to integrate it in the system well enough so that things will open with it instead of nautilus01:17
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Tarkushey01:17
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GhostFreemanV 1.5.0_06-b0501:17
b03ntoIs there any way to make gnome use suspend2 instead of whatever it uses now (when I select "Hibernate this computer" in the logout menu)?01:17
Tarkusis it possible to install ubuntu using a usb drive? instad of booting from a cd?01:17
tsolerwhere is wm bruenig?01:17
Flannel!tell Tarkus about install01:17
racterso is there a difference between the server install on the xubuntu disc vs. the ubuntu disc?01:17
FlannelTarkus: believe there's instructions on how to do that there01:18
Flannelracter: absolutely nothing01:18
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racterflannel: thx01:18
iamtherictsoler, enlightenment fluxbox blackbox xfce are all good wms01:18
bruenigtsoler, I don't understand iamtheric's point, I was just defining wm, you will have to ask him what he was getting at01:18
bruenigthose won't reduce clicks though01:18
GhostFreemanspdf: did you get my  Java version01:18
iamthericbruenig, menus are setup different01:18
Spaceraverlinuxhm... the dpkg log does not state the problem i have... it's apt-get... :/01:19
bruenigiametheric, maybe. I only have used xfce out of that list and it wasn't too much better for amount of clicks.01:19
spdfGhostFreeman, Sun right?01:19
GhostFreemanyes01:19
b03ntoanybody using suspend2 ?01:20
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Subhuman!schedule01:20
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:20
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Ruffleshello there!01:20
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Rufflesis it ok to remove the contents in /tmp/ ?01:21
Spaceraverlinuxshould i just paste the command window??01:21
agentSpaceraverlinux: if it's one line, paste in here... if its multiple lines in pastebin01:21
agentdoes anyone know what exact command finds out when is the appropriate time to do a fsck on boot?01:22
spdfGhostFreeman, Looks like its a known bug01:22
Spaceraverlinuxill put it in the pastebin anyhow01:22
tsoleriamtheric, do u know a wms with this function??01:22
b03nto!suspend201:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
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Rufflesis it ok to remove the contents in /tmp/ ? does anyone know?01:23
GhostFreemanit is?01:23
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GhostFreemanYou have a link to the entry?01:23
spdfGhostFreeman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/4226901:23
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spdfGhostFreeman, There's a workaround on there..01:23
gnuyenHi guys01:23
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GhostFreemanI'll give it a shot01:23
GhostFreemanThanks again!01:23
bruenig!hi01:23
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:23
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cafuegoRuffles: Not generally, no.01:23
gnuyeni'm reading the help.ubuntu.com information on installing a amd64 java plugin01:23
gnuyenand i'm not quite sure what it's saying01:23
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eltechso there isnt a way to create a tar file01:23
gnuyendo i have to run a 32bit browser or not?01:24
eltechhmm01:24
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brueniggnuyen, yes01:24
LjLeltech: uh?01:24
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irc1how do i get my mic to work?01:24
LjLeltech: tar --help | grep cf01:24
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riddleboxis there any reason that dapper would be locking up on my system after about 10 minutes?01:24
eck0is it possible to accesss my windows drive thru linux01:25
gnuyenbecause it says "I installed j2re-1.4.2 today with the firefox plugin from multiverse and Java worked in Firefox 1.5.0.5 immediately without having to create manual links."01:25
agent!upstart01:25
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:25
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roblocopexit01:25
eltecherrm sorry i meant a rar file01:25
Spaceraverlinuxhere is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/ someone kick me in the right direction01:25
eltechcreating a rar file01:25
iamtherictsoler, what?01:25
eck0does anyone know how to access my windows stuff on my other HDD01:26
iamtherictsoler, if you use kde set it so that you can mouse over windows to raise them01:26
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, is it fat32??01:26
eck0nfts01:26
eck0or ntfs watever01:26
gnuyenis there anyway to install 32bit firefox01:26
tsoleri thin iam using gnome01:26
Spaceraverlinuxthat would be a big no no anyhow01:26
LjLeltech, you need to install the "rar" package rather than the "unrar" package01:26
gnuyenwith apt?01:26
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eck0you sure01:26
tsoleris it easy to make a transitition?01:27
eck0well can i burn my mp3's off windows, and put it on linux01:27
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Dr_williseck0,  you can mount the ntfs drives and access them .01:27
arnieboyHi where can I get a comprehensive list of country based ubuntu repository mirrors ?01:27
Dr_williseck0,  the default fstab entrys restrict the access to just the root user.. a edit of the fstab file changes that.01:27
tsolergnome to kde??01:28
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eck0how do i logon as root?01:28
Spaceraverlinuxyes... ntfs is a very closed file system, accessing them is possible, but write support is not good or lacking01:28
eck0just use su?01:28
LjL!root > eck001:28
Dr_williseck0,  example fstab line -------->   /dev/hda5 /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:28
Spaceraverlinuxyes01:28
Dr_willis!sudo01:28
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:28
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eck0so to open my windows drive is kinda a bad thing cuz then if people hack in they can move rite to my other drive?01:29
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Spaceraverlinuxeck0, use "sudo gedit etc/fstab01:30
eck0which does?01:30
Spaceraverlinuxgedit is like notepad01:30
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spdfeck0, If they wanted to. But, even without you mounting it they could find it easy enough01:30
Juhazif people hack in, your windows drive being mounted is the least of your worries01:30
eck0well unix is already a bitch to hack in01:31
eck0were windows its simpler01:31
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eck0brb01:31
Spaceraverlinuxeck0,  ever edited *.bat or *.con files??01:31
Spaceraverlinuxdoes anyone have a clue why apt get dies with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/01:32
Spaceraverlinuxcant get my head around it01:32
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turano_ubuhey guys, my alacarte don't work (in Edgy Elft). it doesn't check/uncheck the menu entries.01:32
spdfHmm.. I can't read german or whatever that is..01:33
bruenigSpaceraverlinux, translate?01:33
LjLdanish01:33
Spaceraverlinuxyes01:33
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Spaceraverlinuxline 17 says critical error file list for python glade2 is missing01:34
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eck0nope im a noob to linux01:34
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YBH_1turano_ubu, are you running it as root mode? it should pronpt you for a password.01:34
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Spaceraverlinuxsome of is in english.. some danish... i wish they would have kept the command lines to english01:35
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eck0does anyone know why my mic works in wondows but not linux?01:35
spdfSpaceraverlinux, Using Dapper?01:35
Spaceraverlinuxyes01:35
turano_ubuYBH_1, I already do it01:35
eltechljl thanks.. that was it01:36
iamthericeck0, go figure01:36
YBH_1have you tried alsamiser use the arrow keys to find the mic and press m key to mute and unmute the mic then use sudo alstctl store01:36
vryodoes anyone have experience setting up a server?01:36
YBH_1alsamiser =alsamiser01:36
YBH_1alsamiser =alsamixer01:36
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, lol01:36
YBH_1it's 1 of those days01:36
Spaceraverlinuxoops01:37
eck0is it sumtin i did?01:37
Spaceraverlinuxyes... it's monday...01:37
XVampireXor just double click the icon in the panel01:37
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eck0like being stupid on sumtin01:37
vryoim having truble connecting to it01:37
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Spaceraverlinuxno sorry eck0... i was gonna say we are all noobs at linux... i am one too01:37
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Roger_The_Bumwill the edgy final release include firefox 2.0?01:37
bododohi folks :)01:38
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eck0o01:38
spdfSpaceraverlinux, Hmm, try apt-get update. and then try again01:38
FlannelRoger_The_Bum: the current edgy does, so yes01:38
SpaceraverlinuxRoger_The_Bum, have you traversed the forums??01:38
Roger_The_Bumno01:38
eck0so no1 knows why my mic wont work01:38
bododoplease give another reason to switch to ubuntu, the first being thier community :(01:38
Roger_The_Bumbododo: its ease of use01:38
eck0i like it01:38
Spaceraverlinuxspdf, i tried that... just gives allmost the same error01:38
eck0can i not use rpm files?01:38
melvini want to use xgl on my laptop is it easy to install????01:39
bododoRoger, I already use FC501:39
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Flannelmelvin: #ubuntu-xgl01:39
Flanneleck0: you can, but using debs is better (because no conversion issues and the dependencies that come with that)01:39
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, you can... afaik you need alien to import them into ubuntu...01:39
bododoand i'm deeplu decieved by thier cmmunity01:39
Roger_The_Bumbododo: large packet repository///?01:39
Roger_The_Bums/////.../01:39
bododowell my internet connexion is very slow01:39
bododoand ubuntu ships with the bare minimum01:40
eck0well the only downloads for most files are in .rpm01:40
Roger_The_Bumyeah01:40
Roger_The_Bumalien might be it01:40
Spaceraverlinuxhmm... is there a way to force the samba version to install??01:40
bododothat's actually what keeps me from switching to ubuntu01:40
eck0is the porting?01:40
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Spaceraverlinuxbododo, what connection do you have??01:41
bododo128kb/s01:41
bododonot even able to download stuff01:41
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bododoi'm african by the way ;-)01:41
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Roger_The_Bumahh01:41
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Flannelbododo: The DVDs have more packages, you might look into debian, they have all their packages available on CDs, ubuntu plans to, but it hasn't happened yet01:41
bododoand by the way sorry for my poor english, it's my 4th language01:42
PeggerrrI cant figure out why saslauthd will not start up   http://pastebin.ca/21612001:42
Spaceraverlinuxbododo,  that aint much, but if you dont need much to download... just leave the system on over night01:42
iamthericbododo, thats about it01:42
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iamthericeck0, you can with alien01:42
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concept10anyone using beryl01:42
Roger_The_Bumubuntu hasn't been around for longer than 2 years01:42
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Flannelconcept10: #ubuntu+1 or #beryl01:42
SeveasRoger_The_Bum, 2.5 years actually01:42
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Spaceraverlinuxhello Seveas01:42
Roger_The_Bumberyl?01:42
bododothanks folks, but i'm really scared of time it needs to complete01:42
concept10Flannel, just asked if anyone was using it01:42
eck0were do i get it? got a link?01:42
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Flannelconcept10: right, people there have a better chance of using it ;)01:43
eck0im gonna go nuts without my mic lol01:43
iamthericrpm is pretty convienient01:43
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Spaceraverlinuxeck0, use the command line01:43
eck0 ./program.rpm you mean?01:43
Roger_The_BumSpaceraverlinux: can't synaptic do the trick too?01:43
Spaceraverlinuxtype "sudo apt-get install alien"01:43
spdfSpaceraverlinux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24069901:43
bododoyour community is warm, that's what i firstly love above all01:43
Roger_The_Bumyeah01:44
Roger_The_BumI use it as a heat source01:44
eck0what is apt-get?01:44
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Spaceraverlinuxi can... i just prefer apt-get01:44
Roger_The_Bumeck0: it's a package manager01:44
eck0ok says its all good01:44
eck0and if ineed gcc its sudo apt-get install gcc01:44
Spaceraverlinuxthe command line version of synaptic... more powerful...01:44
Flannel!tell eck0 about alien01:44
iamtheric!alien01:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).01:44
bododoRoger, well i'm a webdevelopper, the problem is that ubuntu shiped cd is ... say aimed for users desktop01:44
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bododowithout the servers...01:45
Flannelbododo: grab the server CD01:45
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Roger_The_Bumbododo: isn't there a server install on there?01:45
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, exactly01:45
bododoFlannel, so, when I grab the server one can I install both?01:45
eck0ok ty01:45
Flanneleck0: build-essential is more complete, but gcc will get you gcc01:45
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tsolerhey guys what is the differences between kde and gnome?01:45
eck0ill get the build stuff01:45
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Willdoes anyone know of any sound drivers that will work with the CS4236 ?01:46
KyralYou'll need it01:46
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maxflaxcrimsun, are u there?01:46
Spaceraverlinuxspdf.. thanks01:46
Peggerrrook I figured out why it was not starting but I am still getting this error when I try to do tls with postfix      cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory01:46
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: diffefent window managers01:46
eck0damn you guys are good01:46
Peggerrrwhat file is it looking for ?//01:46
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bododoso, can i install both versions on the same OS?01:46
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: gnome comes with ubuntu01:46
molineroHi bododo01:46
Willim not sure01:46
spdfSpaceraverlinux, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/samba/+bug/4808201:46
Flannelbododo: grab the alternate ISO, it comes with apache01:46
bododoHi molinero :)01:46
Spaceraverlinuxit's a common bug then01:47
tsolerso im using gnome01:47
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: yeah01:47
bododoFlannel, but then how 'bout the desktop side? i also need it01:47
spdfSpaceraverlinux, Yeh, looks like its been there for awhile01:47
Flannelbododo: alternate ISOs are the dekstops, with some additional packages (like apache, for instance)01:47
tsolerbut what is the differences?01:47
Kyraltsoler: look and feel, GTK vs. Qt, personal opinions01:47
KyralAlso one of the Big Linux Holy Wars01:47
bimberibododo: yes, you can run server and desktop packages on the same install01:47
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: I think gnome uses c while kde uses c++01:47
eck0im just ognna use wine lol01:47
KyralRoger_The_Bum: WRONG :P01:47
tsoleri ask your personal opinion01:47
bododoFlannel, you suggest me to install the desktop version and then individually install the servers packages?01:47
xipietotecokay....upgrade to dapper went through except for 3 programs01:48
eck0emu some windows stuff like ventrilo etc01:48
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: quite honestly, I prefer gnome01:48
KyralRoger_The_Bum: its more that GNOME uses the GTK widget kit and KDE uses Qt. Both GTK and Qt have bindings to many languages01:48
tsolerfor me that i dont know much is a basic01:48
Flannelbododo: no.  download the 'alternate' iso, it has the desktop stuff, and apache etc on it.  then you install apache from the CD01:48
ianmacgregor!lamp > bododo01:48
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xipietotec mzscheme gtk-engines-eazel drscheme all returned errors01:48
Kyraltsoler: Just try both01:48
bododoalternate?01:48
Kyraltsoler: You can have both installed at once (Hell I have before)01:49
bododoit's not shiped?01:49
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Flannelbododo: yes.  right.01:49
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Kyral(Hell I have had all the WMs at once installed)01:49
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xipietotecokay....reload.01:49
tsolerive noticed that gnome takes me too many clicks01:49
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Roger_The_BumKyral: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-] >.<++++[>+++++++<-] >+.<++[>+++<-] >+..+++.++++[>++++++++<-] >.<+++++[>++++++++++<-] >+++++.<<.+++.------.<+++[>---<-] >+ is this supported by gtk?01:49
bododoFlannel, but... my Internet speed :( poor me, it's but 128kb/s01:49
KyralRoger_The_Bum: WTF?01:49
spdftsoler, so you said...01:49
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Roger_The_BumKyral: brainf*ck01:49
iamthericRoger_The_Bum, debian has over 20000 packagees in its repo's by default01:49
iamthericbododo, my connect is under 4kbps01:49
Willhow do i install the ALSA drivers?01:50
KyralRoger_The_Bum: Write bindings :P01:50
Will!ALSA01:50
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:50
eck0anyone know how to install wine? so i can use various windows stuff01:50
FlannelRoger_The_Bum: that'd be a BF interpreter, not in GTK nor QT, unless someone wrote a BF interface to QT01:50
Juhaztsoler, largest difference is in philosophy. gnome tries to be simple with sane defaults, even if that sometimes limits choices, whereas kde has settings for everything, and then some01:50
bododoiamtheric!01:50
tsolerhow can i test the kde environemnt?01:50
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maxflaxIm reading the INSTALL file for the alsa-drivers 1.0.13.. and on one row it says about make install : "If you have already a system with ALSA init script, you should install just only modules via 'make install-modules' so that the existing init script won't be replaced." I have alsa installed now but older version. should I only do a make-install-modules then?01:50
zirjoker!wine01:50
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:50
Kyraltsoler: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:50
iamthericbododo, 128 would be godly for m01:50
iamthericme^01:50
Flanneltsoler: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:50
KyralI win :P01:50
Flanneltsoler: use aptitutde, since it'll make it easier to uninstall later if you choose to get rid of it01:50
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FlannelKyral: not if he wants to remove it ;)01:51
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: gksudo synaptic install kubuntu-desktop01:51
Roger_The_Bumbecause I'm contrarian01:51
Roger_The_Bumand/or confromist01:51
bododoiamtheric, it's 128 kilo bits per second01:51
KyralFlannel: Aptitute works quite well with Apt-Get01:51
Roger_The_Bums/ro/or01:51
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maxflaxAnd where is the init script? maybe I can do a backup on it before i install?01:51
Spaceraverlinuxbododo, then i should not brag about my connection...01:51
tsolerthat wiil install what ? only the wm?01:51
bododoSpaceraverlinux, no you shouldn't :)01:52
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Spaceraverlinuxtsoler, it will install the whole desktop01:52
iamtherici wear flannel01:52
FlannelKyral: apt-get won't remove the entire desktop thing when removes the meta package, aptitude makes that possible, he is just trying kde afterall01:52
ianmacgregortsoler: That will install the KDE desktop environment01:52
iamthericbododo, whats your average dl speed01:52
iamtheric?01:52
KyralFlannel: This is why I use Arch :P01:52
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bododo14 kilobytes per second01:52
KyralFlannel: One Tool One Good Thing :P01:52
Spaceraverlinux^what he said01:52
tsolerhow much data is that?01:53
iamthericbododo, why must you switch from redhat?01:53
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Spaceraverlinuxtsoler, you have capped dl??'01:53
bododoiamtheric, just despointed, theier community.. is...well.. very silent?01:53
slop|laphelp : i have followed every tutorial i can find about watching DVD's...but still, when i put in a dvd in my laptop, it doesn't even pop up on my desktop!  please help!01:53
Kyraland For The Record01:53
tsolerwhats this:)?/01:53
KyralGConf Sucks :P01:53
Noob1ok i need help i came in erler and asked if there was a way to get a gui on the server version and i was told yes and to type " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it did not work what shuld i try now01:53
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ianmacgregortsoler: I agree with Flannel. Installing kubuntu-desktop with synaptic will make it a pain to uninstall KDE should you not want it. Installing it with aptitude will make it easy to uninstall it later. However, the version of apt-get that ships with edgy will fix that little problem, thanks to the bug report I submitted.01:53
FlannelKyral: take it somewhere else01:54
jbmigelhowcome i cant get my framebuffer resolution above 1024x768? my monitor supports 1280x1024 when in X01:54
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KyralJust that comment01:54
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KyralI don't intend to start flamewars01:54
iamtherictsoler, apples and oranges01:54
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ianmacgregorKyral: Good, because I'd hate to have to use the ops trigger :)01:54
JuhazKyral, then you shouldn't flame01:54
brainotsoler: looks like 40kB, heres exactly what it installs: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/misc/kubuntu-desktop01:54
KyralJuhaz: you know me well enough to know that I state my opinion openly01:55
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slop|laphelp : i have followed every tutorial i can find about watching DVD's...but still, when i put in a dvd in my laptop, it doesn't even pop up on my desktop!  please help!01:55
Kyral..oh jeez do you REALLY want me to start a flamewar?01:55
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tsolerthansk braino01:55
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Spaceraverlinuxslop|lap, relax we read it the first time01:55
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Spaceraverlinux!dvd01:56
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:56
redsoxfan90hey need some help on something here.01:56
slop|lapSpaceraverlinux, i've followed those01:56
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Noob1!gui01:56
Spaceraverlinuxhave you tried vlc??01:56
Noob1ok i need help i came in erler and asked if there was a way to get a gui on the server version and i was told yes and to type " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it did not work what shuld i try now01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
redsoxfan90my trash can on the lower right corner isn't there was a few hours ago :)01:56
FlannelNoob1: What error did you get? since, that does work01:56
Noob1nothing loaded01:56
bruenigredsoxfan90, right click on the panel, and then click add to panel and then find the applet and click on it01:56
slop|lapSpaceraverlinux, no, but i think the problem is not the player...it doesn't pop up on the desktop when i insert a dvd01:56
bododowell it's very nice to meet you all guys and discover your world, be back for sure01:56
ianmacgregorslop|lap: You want a dvd to popup in an app when you put the movie in the drive?01:57
Spaceraverlinuxredsoxfan90, maybe ubuntu went out with the trash...01:57
FlannelNoob1: what error/response/etc did you get?01:57
slop|lapianmacgregor, i just want it to play dvds01:57
spdfslop|lap, So, You put the dvd in, load up Movie Player (totem), and it won't play?01:57
Noob1its just back to the start thing with ksa#ksashops:~$01:57
eck0hey to dl wine it says http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain01:57
jorikhow can i check the 'RSA key fingerprint' of the ssh server running on my computer ?01:57
eck0but that site doesnt work01:57
slop|lapspdf, right, and neither will xine01:57
ianmacgregorslop|lap: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media01:57
Will:'( i want sound01:57
Noob1i did not get any error it just stoped01:57
Spaceraverlinuxianmacgregor, i think he wants it to show on the desktop01:57
KyralNoob1: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start01:57
Noob1ok01:57
Willdoes anyone know of any sound drivers that will work with the CS4236 ?01:57
ianmacgregorSpaceraverlinux: Yeah, Im gonna try and get that going for him01:57
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slop|lapianmacgregor, i don't want it to set to automatically play, i just want it to work :P01:57
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Spaceraverlinuxnp01:57
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Noob1comand bot found01:58
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eck0wat does deb do?01:58
ianmacgregorslop|lap: So, you don't want the movie auto play, but you want the app to popup on the desktop so you can play the movie???01:58
slop|lapit won't play dvds...and i don't think it's recognizing them, as i'm not getting a dvd icon on the desktop when i insert a dvd (like i do on both of my desktops)01:58
bruenig!deb01:58
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)01:58
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, get this rep list http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23642501:58
nym_hey, how do i upgrade my ubuntu?01:58
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eck0well i need to dl it01:59
bruenignym_, to edgy?01:59
slop|lapianmacgregor, no lol...it won't play dvds...i'm just mentioning that it doesn't pop up on the desktop as a clue to why it won't play...i'm thinking it might not recognize dvd's or something01:59
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Will!upgrade | nym_01:59
ubotunym_: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:59
eck0and i went to debhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain and it was some crazy shit lol01:59
slop|lapianmacgregor, i just want to be able to play dvds on my laptop01:59
nym_thanks01:59
spdfslop|lap, do you have mplayer installed?01:59
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Ok, here's how to get the icon to popup on the desktop. Applications -> System -> Configuration editor. Open that and let me know when it's open02:00
redsoxfan90ty bruenig!!!02:00
redsoxfan90cu all.02:00
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, copy that list to your own repository list02:00
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FlannelNoob1: pastebin your sources.list02:00
Willwhat does edgy run on GTK 1.X or GTX 2.X?02:00
slop|lapspdf, i don't think so...i have xine and totem that i know of02:00
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slop|lapianmacgregor, ok , doing that02:00
Spaceraverlinuxor overwrite it actually02:00
spdfslop|lap, if so, open up a terminal and "mplayer dvd://" and pastebin the output in the terminal..02:00
Noob1flannel how go i get to my sorces02:00
tsoleris kde installation only 40 kb???02:00
Will!GTK02:00
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications02:00
FlannelNoob1: /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
Noob1and im on a diffrent computor02:00
jribtsoler: no02:00
ianmacgregorslop|lap: When the conf editor is open, go to the left pane and go to apps/nautilus/desktop02:00
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LjLWill: current Gnome uses GTK 202:00
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eck0debhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain is what the site told me to use02:01
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spdfslop|lap, Or, try totem dvd://02:01
Spaceraverlinuxis edgy stable enough to play with??02:01
eck0but i put it in mozilla didnt work rite02:01
Noob1i got permission denied02:01
Flannel!tell eck0 about wine02:01
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bruenigeck0, you have to add that to your sources.list02:01
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bruenigeck0, you have to add that to your sources.list02:01
Noob1Flannel i got permission denied02:01
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tsoler i want to test which is better for me kde or gnome02:01
FlannelSpaceraverlinux: its final release will be this thursday, RC1 right now.  so... hopefully.  #ubuntu+1 would be the best place for real answers to that though02:02
slop|lapspdf, ok, it seems the problem is with libdvdcss202:02
eck0and i do that how???02:02
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FlannelNoob1: you need to open that in a text editor02:02
slop|lapspdf, i got this message in the GUI : The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?02:02
tsolercan anyone tellme how much trouble it is to make the transit02:02
fatsheepwill dapper automatically update to edgy once it becomes officially supported?02:02
slop|lapspdf, but i have libdvdcss2 installed02:02
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spdfslop|lap, Make sure02:02
Noob1im on the server virsion and im trying to get the gui i have no real idea how to do that Flannel02:02
slop|lapspdf, how?02:02
bruenigeck0, open a terminal and do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, once in there just paste that line anywhere in it. Save. Then back in the terminal do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine02:03
Flannelfatsheep: no, it'll ask you though02:03
ianmacgregorJuhaz: I am ssh'ing into another box where I have admin privs (sudo), how do I log out a user via command line on that other box?02:03
fatsheepok cool02:03
spdfslop|lap, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss202:03
FlannelNoob1: nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:03
GhostFreeman!lastfm02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lastfm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
GhostFreemanthanks anyways ubotu02:03
spdfslop|lap, Should give you "libdvdcss2 is already newest version."02:03
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ianmacgregorspdf: He may not have the repo for that02:03
slop|lapspdf, yup it's installed already02:03
bruenig!bot02:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:03
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slop|lapianmacgregor, i do, it's installed02:03
ianmacgregoror maybe he does, lol02:03
slop|laplol02:03
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Noob1Flannel: what do u want to know on all these pages02:04
SAM_themanyo hommies02:04
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Spaceraverlinuxi think i will try edgy now...02:04
SAM_themanwho wants to dual me in ET02:04
FlannelNoob1: you need to paste them into the pastebin02:04
Flannel!paste02:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:04
FlannelSAM_theman: #ubuntu-offtopic02:04
slop|lapspdf, mplayer dvd:// doesn't work either, it gives me an error in terminal02:04
Noob1im on a diffrent computor i cnat02:04
FlannelNoob1: are you SSHd in? or what?02:04
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Noob1*cant02:04
spdfslop|lap, What error?02:04
spdfslop|lap, pastebin it02:04
eck0tells me deb command not found so umm ya02:04
SAM_themanFlannel, smart one in the ubutnu server02:04
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slop|lapspdf, k, doing that02:05
bruenigeck0, did you do what I said?02:05
eck0i missed it sry02:05
eck0i accidently clsoed it02:05
xipietotecokay...upgraded to edgy but now my wifi card doesn't work, I used ndiswrapper to get it working previously, how can I get it working now?02:05
bruenigyou were in here when I said it I believe but of not, <bruenig> eck0, open a terminal and do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, once in there just paste that line anywhere in it. Save. Then back in the terminal do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine02:05
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Flannelxipietotec: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support02:05
xipietotecah, kay02:05
slop|lapspdf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27907/02:05
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spdfslop|lap, hmm.. is your cdrom /dev/hdc?02:06
Noob1i got the server virsion off your website now i have it loaded but there is no gui with it... i did what some one told me to do and all i got was a blank page so i hit restart on my cpu and it loaded nothing... im new to linux so i dont know what to do... right now im on my windows so i can see what to do02:06
tsolergoodnight to all02:06
spdfslop|lap, Its looking for /dev/dvd, check to see if that exists02:06
slop|lapspdf, i'm not sure...i just installed...how do i check?02:06
tsolerhere is too late02:06
FlannelNoob1: You can connect to IRC on the server version, 'irssi' is installed, and lynx is isntalled (thats a web browser)02:07
tsolernext time will see kde02:07
spdfslop|lap, run mount in the terminal02:07
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slop|lapspdf, just did that, it doesn't list a dvd drive02:07
spdfslop|lap, it'll list all mounted volumes, You're looking for the one linked to /media/cdrom02:07
ragone easy question02:07
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FlannelNoob1: anyway, is the computer connected to the internet? we really need more information other than "it didn't work" to diagnose the problem02:07
slop|lapspdf, its not mounted02:07
spdfslop|lap, mount /media/cdrom02:08
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coincoin169helo to alla02:08
Spaceraverlinuxrag, shoot02:08
coincoin169hello to all02:08
ragcreative web cam support02:08
coincoin169scuz me02:08
Noob1well flannel dose the server version gave a gui02:08
Spaceraverlinuxcoincoin169, hello to you too02:08
slop|lapspdf, it says mount: No medium found02:08
ragSpaceraverlinux: creative web cam support02:08
FlannelNoob1: you can install a GUI, but no it does't have a GUI installed by default02:08
spdfslop|lap, Is there a dvd/cd in the drive?02:08
slop|lapspdf, there's definately a dvd in the drive02:08
coincoin169do i need to compile mesa or/and dri in order to install nvidia driver or all is included in the nvidia driver ???02:08
SpaceraverlinuxNoob1, have you used startx??02:09
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Run gmplayer, go to the prefs, go to the Misc tab and at the bottom, set your dirves up02:09
Noob1well can u tell me how to install a gui so i can just start all over02:09
Noob1Spaceraverlinux no02:09
eck0Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:09
eck0This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:09
eck0is only available from another source02:09
eck0E: Package wine has no installation candidate02:09
Noob1i have no idea what that even is02:09
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ragSpaceraverlinux: do you know links or package drivers for creative web cam?02:09
FlannelNoob1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is how you install the GUI02:09
bruenigeck0, you added that repo and did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"?02:09
FlannelNoob1: unless you want to reinstall entirely, in which case download the desktop or alternate (I suggest the latter) to install02:09
eck0thats all 1 command i thought i was 2 klol02:10
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SpaceraverlinuxNoob1, might wanna try that... if you just installed the desktop it might not "just start"...02:10
bruenigeck0, it doesn't matter, doing seperate should do the same thing02:10
eck0same thing02:10
rockzmanHow do I activate my video card 3d Acceleration02:10
eck0says its not there02:10
bruenigeck0, you are sure you added that repo into /etc/apt/sources.list?02:10
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eck0ya02:11
slop|lapianmacgregor, i can't...when i run it, it just locks up, doesn't even give me menus to click on or anythhing, just two blank boxes02:11
bruenigeck0, pastebin your sources.list02:11
bruenig!paste02:11
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eck0its # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:11
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bruenigeck0, you have to delete that #02:11
eck0ok 1  sec02:12
jbmigelWhy wont framebuffer goto 1280x1024? my monitor supports it... but at boot I get "invalid number" @ vga=0x31A02:12
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Are you using gnome with xgl or compiz?02:12
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Flanneleck0: you probably don't want deb-src either, deb instead02:12
slop|lapianmacgregor, nope, just standard install02:12
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b08ybackports!02:12
bruenigeck0, also there should be another line in there that looks like this, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:12
Noob1well i had the desk top version02:12
Spaceraverlinuxoff to bed... nn all02:12
Noob1but i did not have all the stuff the server did02:12
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Did you install mplayer from the repos?02:12
FlannelNoob1: Right, you can install that later though02:12
Noob1ohh ok02:12
slop|lapianmacgregor, yes02:13
eck0got it thanks man02:13
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Noob1well ill install the desktop agan02:13
Flannel!tell Noob1 about lamp02:13
FlannelNoob1: that's how (the link ubotu gave you)02:13
baxter_kylieHi. I have an LVM question: If I have a dev (/hda) with 4 partitions, is it possible to convert one of the partitions to be managed by LVM but leave the others as physical partitions?02:13
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ink251how would I edit a packages source before installing it?02:13
Noob1ok02:13
[Daniel] Woo hoo! The printer works!02:13
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baxter_kylieink251: If you've downloaded the source it should be in /usr/src02:14
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Flannelink251: download the source package instead of the binary package02:14
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ink251parallax: you do anything with basic stamps?02:14
ink251how would i set it to download the source instead of the binary?02:14
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Flannelink251: apt-get source [package] 02:14
ParallaxBasic stamps? I don't know a thing about them.02:15
spdfslop|lap, cat /proc/diskstats and pastebin that02:15
baxter_kylieink251: What Flannel said.02:15
ink251oh, the company that makes them is parallax02:15
Flannelink251: you'll also maybe need apt-get build-dep [package]  which will download the dependencies02:15
bimberiink251: enable source repositories (deb-src lines in sources.list) if required02:15
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ink251ok that helps, thanks02:15
ink251sometimes i like to tweak my programs a little02:15
ParallaxAnyone know of any particular issues with the installation partioner in the latest release (of Ubuntu)?02:15
slop|lapspdf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27908/02:15
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spdfslop|lap, try mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom02:16
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slop|lapspdf, it returned "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"02:16
timwizzyShould is use Ubuntu or Debian for my apache, ftp, email server?02:17
shriphaniguys getting some hardware here no need help02:17
eck0ok im tryng to install a program but not working great....02:17
ianmacgregorspdf: There's no file system on /dev/hdc02:17
shriphanishould i get an amd or an intel02:17
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emacsenHow do I disable ryhtombox from turning on when I plug in my ipod?02:17
spdfslop|lap, mount /dev/hdc -t auto /media/cdrom02:17
timwizzyCan someome tell me, whats the deal with ubuntu not having a root logon?02:17
ink251tim: debian, you wont need all the user friendly features ubuntu has02:17
bimberiubotu tell timwizzy about root02:17
emacsentimwizzy, you don't need it02:17
slop|lapspdf, same result02:17
ianmacgregor!sudo > ink25102:17
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ink251tim: sudo passwd02:18
ink251once you set a password02:18
ink251and change the login settings02:18
ianmacgregor!sudo > timwizzy02:18
ink251you can login as root02:18
ianmacgregorink251: Sorry about that02:18
rodneyendortimwizzy sudo bash02:18
eck0so were does stuff save that i dl with me putting it in a dir, like whats default dir02:18
Flannelink251: no, there's no need.  Stop.  He's got sudo, he's wondering about sudo, not how to get a root login02:18
ink251ian: its cool02:18
bruenigeck0, what are you trying to do?02:18
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eck0i downloaded a windows program to emu02:18
ianmacgregorink251: Please don't tell people to set a root password, it isn't supported configuration02:18
eck0and were does it save ?02:19
shriphaniemacsen, System -----> Preferences -------> Removable Drives and Media02:19
englahi. How do I get more dictionaries? I installed dictd, but I want more that the available dictionaries from the repositories. for example is there a german-german dictionary?02:19
Flanneleck0: depends on how you downloaded it, and where that defaults to save it02:19
bruenigeck0, where did you save it when you downloaded it?02:19
ink251flannel: someone might find that information usefull, uber security is not a big deal among someone who would use ubuntu02:19
eck0it just auto saved02:19
emacsenshriphani, wow, that seems... random. Is that documented somewhere?02:19
eck0didnt let me choose02:19
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Flannelink251: right, but the root sudo page has that already.  Normal users who ask about root only do so because they don't know how sudo works.02:19
shriphaniemacsen, thats the only way i know of02:20
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bruenigeck0, it probably saves it in your home folder02:20
shriphanifrom there go to e multimedia tab02:20
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ink251or they hate that prompt to login every time you change a a setting02:20
baxter_kylieink251: Indeed. And the few of us that need root access for certain applications can usually get by with fakeroot02:20
emacsenshriphani, yeah I appreciate it. Just disconcerting to an old *nix user :)02:20
Flannelink251: there are sudo solutions to that too, sudo -i or sudo -s02:20
rodneyendorsudo bash works for me02:20
shriphaniat the bottom you should see a Portable Players option02:21
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shriphanichange the command to whatever you want02:21
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JamesTHello everyone02:21
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JamesTanyone here?02:21
eck0wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\LimeWireWin.exe": Module not found02:21
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ianmacgregorJamesT: hi02:21
robbiHi all,02:21
emacsenJamesT, yes, we're waiting for the question :)02:21
JamesTHello02:21
ink251eck0: use gtk-gnutella02:21
JamesTI see02:21
fnfJamesT: yes ?02:21
eck0gtk?02:22
timwizzyHow is the "First User" different to other users?02:22
JamesTis there a way to play battlefield 1942 on Ubuntu Linux?02:22
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JamesTIt's a game for windows02:22
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emacsentimwizzy, it's added to all the groups02:22
ink251try apt-get install wine02:22
braskoanyone know how to get the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package installed?02:22
ink251then run the exe with wine02:22
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eck0if its doesnt work on wine02:22
braskoI need it for the nomachine's nx client02:22
eck0u need WineX its like 5 am onth02:22
timwizzyemacsen: is that really the only difference.02:22
emacsenJamesT, maybe, if it works in Wine. Otherwise, no02:22
robbiI've got a Dell Dimension, and I just installed a Netgear MA311 (PCI) in it.  It also has an onboard Ethernet connector, and that is what I am using now.02:22
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shriphanibrasko, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:22
bruenigeck0, why don't you use a linux gnutella client?02:22
fnfJamesT: there is, but not guaranteed to work, try searching for wine package, or the commercial Cedega02:22
timwizzyHow do i manage users and groups02:22
QuashCan anyone tell me how to boot in to the 6.10 Desktop CD with a vesa generic monitor command?  I can't boot in and think it may because Xorg doesn't recognize my Compaq P1100 monitor.02:22
ink251check out the wine applications database02:22
eck0im gonna02:23
ParallaxJamesT, I'm not sure how far they've achieved in emulating DirectX, but that is a huge task for a game like that.02:23
robbiBut the wifi card doesn't even02:23
emacsentimwizzy, what /exactly/ are you asking?02:23
robbishow up in Networking.02:23
slop|lapspdf, when i run regionset, i get this : ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"! Please ensure there is a readable CD or DVD in the drive.02:23
braskois there any way to see what files will be installed from a given name like build-essential?02:23
shriphaniso is am or intel better02:23
shriphaniamd ^02:23
braskobefore actually installing it?02:23
slop|lapspdf, i've done this with 3 different dvds02:23
timwizzyI read somewhere that the first user has special privlafges02:23
JamesThmm... I really want to use linux but I need to be able to do everything I can do on a windows system02:23
emacsentimwizzy, yeah, it's added to the group so that it can run sudo02:23
shriphanibrasko, it should list all the sff and then ask you if you wanna proceed02:23
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JamesTI'm downloading the Ubuntu desktop cd now02:24
KeyseirHey, I just ran dist-upgrade on my breezy badger system upgrading to dapper drake. After it finished and I restarted, X wouldn't start up, no GUI. Do I have to alter this "config" file? How?02:24
ianmacgregortimwizzy: Yes, the first user has admin privs. You can manage users and groups with: gksu users-admin02:24
emacsenJamesT, if by "everything" you mean running binaries, then forget it.02:24
robbiand I'm running 6.06.02:24
ParallaxYou can run a BF1942 server, but not the client game.02:24
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braskoyes, sorry, I'm wondering what exactly will be installed in the filesystem, when installing a package.02:24
JamesTI see02:24
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braskolike, when installing bash you'll see /bin/bash and /etc/profile, ...02:24
emacsenJamesT, that's like saying "I won't use Windows unless it runs my OSX apps"02:24
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braskois there a command to do that?02:24
spdfslop|lap, You're sure its a dvd capable drive?02:24
slop|lapspdf, yeah, it says DVD ROM on it :p02:24
JamesTWell that's not exactly what I meant to say02:24
JamesTI love linux and everything about it.02:24
JamesTI wish I could run it all the time02:25
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ink251me too02:25
braskoactually, is there a way to do 'dpkg -L packagename', but before the package is installed?02:25
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JamesTwould you recommend running a dual boot system with windows xp and linux?02:25
ink251nah02:25
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JamesTI have an extra HD to run it from02:25
ink251use wine to run windows apps02:25
KeyseirCould I please get some help? I upgraded breezy to dapper and now X won't load up02:25
ink251i just recently made the switch02:25
eck0dude u can run games on linux02:25
eck0if u got 5 a month02:25
JamesTWine will run most windows apps?02:25
FlannelJamesT: Check winehq.com for compatability, see if whatever games are supported/etc02:25
y0gibearI'm running dual boot with xp, ubuntu is on my slave hd02:25
ink251and havent had to use windows since02:25
JamesTI see02:25
QuashKeyseir: I am having a very similar problem right now, but when I boot in from the Edgy CD my screen goes blank.  Could be the same thing.02:26
spdfKeyseir, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:26
emacsenJamesT, personally, now a days, I'd either run Wine, or I'd spend the money on another computer. For real work, there's nothing I can't do in my GNU/Linux system02:26
JamesTthanks for the help guys02:26
ink251most simple programs02:26
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JamesTI'm really looking to start using linux more02:26
ink251some games02:26
QuashKeyseir: You may want to try this, first.  Didn't work for me, but could work for you...02:26
JamesTI want to get away from windows completely if possible02:26
ink251does networking pretty well02:26
adioe3How do I set the value of a variable to be the output of: date +%d-%M-%Y ????02:26
QuashKeyseir: alt + ctrl + F602:26
Quashsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:26
Quashsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:26
emacsenJamesT, well, other than your game, is there anything else?02:26
QuashThen control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM02:26
ink251is it going to be on a desktop or a laptop02:26
Keyseirspdf: What about pastebin..?02:26
eck0james do you got 5 bucks a month you can pay?02:27
ianmacgregorJamesT: It's indeed possible. I haven't touched Windows in years.02:27
skelterAnyone have any experience getting SDL/openGL working with ubuntu?02:27
rockzmanX Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest02:27
rockzman can someone tell me why is this error ocurring02:27
KeyseirQuash: Hm, ok02:27
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totall_6_7JamesT: getting away from Windows totaly is a great feeling, trust me i know :D:D02:27
JamesTYeah, that one disk download for the Ubuntu Desktop CD, if I want to permanently install Ubuntu as a second OS on my Windows system, can I do that directly from the Ubuntu CD I'm getting now?02:27
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Flannel!tell JamesT about dualboot02:27
JamesTOr does it have to download more stuff during the install process02:27
FlannelJamesT: nope, what you have is fine.  See the link ubotu sent you for more information02:28
Quashspdf: do you know how to boot in to the CD/DVD with a vesa generic monitor option in the boot sequence?  I don't think Xorg recognizes my Compaq P1100 monitor.02:28
eck0i wonder if i can get eve-online to run thru wine02:28
emacsenJamesT, yes, but Windows gets funky about boot loaders. A few years ago it may have been worth it. I don't think it is anymore02:28
ink251you will want to download some more things to make it user friendly02:28
eck0or if i need cydego02:28
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ink251but it will work find right off of the cd02:28
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ink251jamesT, check out Beryl on google video02:28
ink251if thats not a reason to switch i dont know what is02:28
Quashianmacgregor: do you know how to boot in to the CD/DVD with a vesa generic monitor option in the boot sequence? I don't think Xorg recognizes my Compaq P1100 monitor.02:29
ParallaxHas anyone here installed an Ubuntu (server) on a RAID5 machine?02:29
eck0so were does wine put the dir for my stuff that i emu02:29
bimberiadioe3: var=`date +%d-%m-%Y`   (note that month is lowercase m, M is minutes)02:29
ink251~/.wine02:29
eck0k02:29
adioe3tnx02:29
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JamesTWould you guys say that Ubuntu is the best linux for a home user such as myself?02:29
fnfQuash: I'll want to take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the Monitor section is probably screwed up. Try '#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' first.02:29
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JamesTI like a lot of the features it offers02:30
ink251JamesT: its the best for making the windows/linux switch02:30
emacsenJamesT, I'd say it's the best GNU/Linux distribution for most users, yes02:30
ianmacgregorQuash: No, but it's quite easy to back up xorg.conf, edit it and restart X02:30
duckdownubuntu is awesome for new users...02:30
jribJamesT: it's a good distribution imo, but best depends on your individual needs and preferences02:30
JamesTThe only other distro I was looking at is Fedora Core02:30
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Quashianmacgregor: I'm going fromt the CD, so can't edit.02:30
duckdownJamesT i tried fedora before ubuntu.. i love ubuntu way more02:30
JamesTSince I am familiar with Red Hat command line02:30
skelterJamesT: I have both fedora and ubuntu. i recommend ubuntu. it's a lot nicer02:30
emacsenJamesT, for just a regular user, it's probably the best you'll find.02:30
skelterthings just work02:31
duckdownbut i'm a n00b so what the hell do i know02:31
ianmacgregorQuash: Oh, livecd? I don't know about that as I don't use the livecd.02:31
spdfQuash, When you boot select one of the rescue options. It'll give you a command line02:31
Y0da^can anyone point me in the right direction for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?02:31
JamesTIs Ubuntu similar to red hat at all?  I mean command line?02:31
emacsenJamesT, there's no red hat command line, the command line is the same between distributions02:31
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JamesTI see02:31
duckdownJamesT> No, fedora is.. this is similar to debian02:31
emacsenduckdown, he means is bash still bash02:31
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duckdownemacsen oh :)02:31
eck0im back lol02:31
ianmacgregorJamesT: The package manager commands are quite different but the command line is usually the same for most distros.02:32
JamesTYeah basically just wondering if the shell commands are the same/similar02:32
emacsenJamesT, the differences between Ubuntu and Red Hat are minor02:32
Juhazianmacgregor, kill his login shell?02:32
Quashfnf: I've tried Try '#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but couldn't access terminal from boot.  The CD booted past the boot splash but when it went to load the desktop, the screen went black.  Ctrl+Alt+6 didn't access terminal, so I couldn't do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and don't know how to, otherwise.02:32
duckdownyum is so damn slow.. I love apt02:32
ianmacgregorJuhaz: That would work, you know the command for that?02:32
baxter_kylieAny have any experience with LVM?02:32
emacsenJamesT, the shell is the same. Just a few things will be in a few different places, and a couple of different commands. Like driving a different model car02:32
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Y0da^can anyone point me in the right direction for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?02:33
eck0ntn02:33
JamesTIf dual boot isn't recommended, perhaps I should just install Ubuntu on my spare pc and see how much I can accomplish without windows.02:33
DeCaeloDoes anyone here have any expereince with the 915resolution tool02:33
emacsenJamesT, honestly, that's what I'd do02:33
Y0da^i dual just fine02:34
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fnfQuash: the installer CD has a rescue mode, try to see it if boots to the terminal, else append 'single' to the boot parameter. Btw, it is Ctrt+Alt+F[1-6] 02:34
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emacsenJimbo, you can try to dual boot. I'd be more concerned about Windows not working than anything else02:34
rbilinstalled ubuntu-server on an epia system and just trying to install openssh-server. It is now in the process of generating a DSA key and says this may take some time ... how long would this normally take on a lo-powered mobo like this? Don't know if it's hung or indeed just taking its time.02:34
Y0da^just dont install over the ntfs partitions02:34
emacsenrbil, maybe 3-4 seconds, max02:35
spdfrbil, shouldn't take very long at all.02:35
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Quashfnf: will rescue mode give me other options on how to boot in the Live Desktop?  I need to do this first, before installing, to make sure I don't have install issues after I wipe Breezy. :)02:35
rbiloops, never mind ... finally made its way thru it.02:35
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rbilthis is a real low powered box.02:35
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emacsenrbil, apparently!02:35
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rbilgoing to use it simply as a samba server02:35
spdfrbil, How low?02:35
Quashotherwise, I'd just install via the text install option, cross my fingers, hold my breath and go for broke. :)02:36
jribis it possible to make nautilus call 'command selection1 selection2' where 'selection1' and 'selection2' are the two files that I select in a drag and select for example and then right click and open?02:36
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fnfQuash: I haven't used Ubuntu desktop CD so no idea about that, but you'll need to boot to single mode to check the xorg.conf.02:36
rbilepia mII6000E mobo :-)02:36
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braskook, I still haven't found the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package.02:37
Y0da^where can i go for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?02:37
braskoIs it available in ubuntu?02:37
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ubuntu_newbfinally, a nick that wasn't registered lol02:37
jribbrasko: have you enabled universe?02:37
spdf600mhz.. mmf, that's hot.02:37
ink251JamesT: i wouldnt recommend that, if you use windows every time you are uncomfortable with ubuntu you wont learn to use it well, getting it customized for your preferences is half the fun02:37
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Quashfnf: how do I boot to single mode? And will this confirm the Xorg LiveCD file or my Breezy one?  Installed Breezy in fine.02:37
ubuntu_newbdo you have to boot from the Ubuntu CD to run from the cd or can I run it through windows?02:37
DarkMageZY0da^, did you install it systemwide or just to your local user?02:37
emacsenubuntu_newb, you boot from it02:38
Y0da^i'm having problems installing it02:38
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Y0da^The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.102:38
QuashRight now, I just want to boot in via Vesa to rule that out as the problem.02:38
CAsurferCan somebody help me with my apt-get problem?  Whenever I install a package, apt-get also tries to install an old package which was installed successfully, but which apt-get thinks wasn't installed.  So whenever I use apt-get, it tries to install an unnecessary package and fails.  Does anyone know how to fix something like this?02:38
jribCAsurfer: what package?  Can you pastebin the apt-get output?02:39
ZarephathI need to connect a windows machine to a nfs share..googling thus far has only revealed costly software..anyone have an easy solution other than putting linux on that machine?02:39
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fnfQuash: I suspect adding 'single' to the boot parameter should be enough. What what do you mean by 'confirm the xorg Live CD files' ?02:39
CAsurferjrib: vmware02:39
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braskojrib: no02:39
ink251Zare: \\machine\share in run02:40
jribubotu: tell brasko about universe02:40
CAsurferjrib, refine that: vmware-player02:40
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ubuntu_newbvmware player is awsome02:40
braskojrib: is there a downside to adding universe?02:41
Zarephathink251: Kewl thanks02:41
CAsurferubuntu_newb, I know, I just wish apt-get would realize that it's already installed02:41
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ubuntu_newbit allows you to run other operating systems on your windows machine.  For example: you can run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on your Windows system.  Why anyone would want to do that, I don't know unless it is for learning purposes.02:41
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skelterAnyone ever have problems getting SDL/openGL working? Getting "Video initialization failed: Unsupported console hardware" from a nehe lesson02:42
jribbrasko: not really, though it is not guaranteed to get security updates from the official ubuntu team.  You can read the specifics in the "components" wiki page ubotu should have linked you too, but most people end up enabling universe (and multiverse)02:42
ianmacgregorWhy anyone would run Windows, I don't know.. unless it's for insanity reasons.02:42
Zarephathubuntu_newb: I use it to run windows under ubuntu! And it even runs better than natively :-O02:42
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eck0ok how do i log onto my windows02:42
jribCAsurfer: the apt-get output will probably be helpful as well02:42
eck0it auto goes to my linux02:42
ubuntu_newbwait... I can run windows on Ubuntu?02:42
eck0no02:42
ZarephathI can point out one reason...you can't sync a pocket pc running mobile 5 OS on any versino of linux without a bunch of hacking02:42
eck0i have 2 hdd02:42
ink251use wine for that02:42
phireZarephath: Does it hve directX support02:42
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b08yubuntu_newb: u can, with vmware server02:43
ubuntu_newbvmware server for linux?02:43
eck0vmware?02:43
ubuntu_newbis that free?02:43
phireno02:43
b08yjeah02:43
b08yit is02:43
BadkittyAnyone want to try to help me get my wireless working??? Im still noob but I got it to work on my laptop but not my desktop02:43
Zarephathphire: Not sure..think so...I am not using for anything other than syncing my pocketpc02:43
braskojrib: ok, I read the pages02:43
braskojrib: but still don't see exactly how to turn it on02:43
ZarephathBadkitty: What does sudo iwlink show you?02:43
ubuntu_newbit allows you to run other operating systems on your windows machine.  For example: you can run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on your Windows system.02:44
ink251i have a bunch of old laptops laying around anyone got any idea on what to do with them, think interactive picture frame, cluster, etc02:44
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jribbrasko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories is pretty straightforward02:44
Zarephathink251: I would beowulf them...heh02:44
Lubixis anyone else having a bugaliscious time with eft edgy right now?02:44
b08yubuntu_newb: vmware server 4 linux works great!02:44
eck0how do i logon to my windows02:44
ubuntu_newbHe is saying that using vmware server could run windows xp on Ubuntu02:44
eck0it just auto puts me on linux02:44
Lubixmy Gaim keeps messing up02:44
ubuntu_newbthat's awsome02:44
ink251i want to do that thing from antitrust where the pictures change depending on whos in the room02:44
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Lubixcrashes left and right02:44
jribbrasko: go to "managing repositories" then "adding universe"02:44
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braskojrib: I see, thanks.02:44
CAsurferjrib, the essence of the output is "Errors were encountered while processing:02:45
CAsurfer vmware-player02:45
CAsurfer" Basically, apt-get keeps trying and failing.  Is there some kind of "refresh" or "clean" or "check for dependencies" or "stop being stupid" command that I can give apt-get that will resolve simple errors? Is there a way that I can see the queue of things apt-get thinks it should install, so that I can remove things from that queue?02:45
Lubixplease tell me you people have similar problems with edgy!02:45
ubuntu_newbI have a Core 2 Duo system with 2GB of ram, I should be able to run vmware server with no problem.02:45
BadkittyZarephath... I've triefd some tuts a few weeks ago.. how do i use iwlink?02:45
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ZarephathLubix: First and foremost you are in the wrong channel..ask your edgy questions in #ubuntu+02:45
ink251is vmware what you use on a dualcore to run 2 os's in parallel?02:45
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jribCAsurfer: does 'apt-cache policy vmware-player' say it is installed?02:46
b08yubuntu_newb: im runing it on p4 1,8 ghz, works well02:46
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ZarephathBadkitty: I just told you...re-read what I typed02:46
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CAsurferubuntu_newb, with a Core 2 Duo, you should have the hardware to run Xen. Have you tried it? You should be able to get blazing-fast virtualization.02:46
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ubuntu_newbyou can run 2 os's on a single processor machine using vmware02:46
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ZarephathDon't forget Badkitty to include the device name of your wireless card02:46
b08yubuntu_newb: but xen would be better in your case02:46
abohi, when I double click in Nautilus on  a ntfs drive that I have, it says sorry cannot mount drive, but the drive is already mounted, why does it try to mount it again?02:46
ubuntu_newbbut I think dual core/ dual processor is better since it allows you to dedicate one processor to each os or whatever02:46
CAsurferjrib, it says it's installed02:46
BadkittyZarephath... ok then i says command not found02:46
Zarephathb08y: Yeah but doesn't that require a kernel compile?02:47
ubuntu_newbxen?02:47
ZarephathBadkitty: Do you have the wireless tools installed?02:47
Zarephath!wireless02:47
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:47
b08yZarephath: i think so, and u cant run windows with xen02:47
CAsurferubuntu_newb, there's a good wikipedia article on Xen02:47
b08yubuntu_newb: just google xen , but atm no windows with xen02:47
ink251any of you know a good overclocking channel?02:48
jribCAsurfer: well 'apt-get install -f' will try resolving dependencies and 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' will reconfigure unconfigured stuff.  I'm not sure which you want without seeing the error02:48
Zarephathb08y: Yeah..just trying to make the point that is probably beyond his skillset at this time...02:48
b08y:D02:48
jribCAsurfer: simply 'apt-get install vmware-player' may help too02:48
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ZarephathReally? vmware-player is in the repos now..go figure..heh02:48
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BadkittyI've tried several of the wiki's but still no avail. I just re-installed edgy and got a different wireless lan card, so no i don't have the tools downloaded02:49
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ZarephathBadkitty: You will have to install the wireless tools first...02:49
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rubyscubehmm.. has beryl been removed from the tree?... when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??02:50
ink251is there a gnome applet to show my disk space?02:50
BadkittyAllright let me work on that...02:50
mjelvai feel really retarded asking this, but i figured i'd give ubuntu a try, and now i'm stuck. i got the desktop cd, booted from it, chose the "boot from cd / install" option (whatever the specific wording is. the top option on the list). so it booted as with a live-cd, and i'm not sure how to proceed from here. anyone?02:50
DeCaeloDoes anyone here have experience using an intel 900 series graphics card in Ubuntu or perhaps have used the tool 915resolution?02:50
ZarephathBadkitty: You should be able to lspci(I assume your wireless card is PCI)..you should see the card listed....first question answered..if it shows up then linux sees the card02:50
ink251look for the install icon on the desktop02:50
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ZarephathBadkitty: I believe also lshw will show you as well...someone correct me if this is bad information02:50
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mjelvaink251: i'm not able to do that. i'll have to do it via commandline. how do i?02:51
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ZarephathBadkitty: Once you have determined that linux sees the hardware you need to figure out how to install the drivers...02:51
CAsurferjrib, Starting VMware services:02:51
CAsurfer   Virtual machine monitor                                            failed02:51
CAsurfer   Virtual ethernet                                                   failed02:51
CAsurferModule vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before02:51
CAsurferrunning this script.02:51
CAsurferinvoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.02:51
CAsurferdpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure):02:51
CAsurfer subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102:51
CAsurferErrors were encountered while processing:02:51
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CAsurfer vmware-player02:51
jribCAsurfer: not here, use a pastebin!02:51
CAsurferE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:51
ZarephathBadkitty: I will shoot you a link just a sec..this will show if your card is supported fully or not...02:51
ianmacgregor!pastebin > CAsurfer02:51
DCGrendelanyone know why the installer has -- at the end of the kernel commandline?02:52
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CAsurfersorry, what's a pastebin?02:52
mjelvapastebin.ca02:52
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ZarephathBadkitty: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php02:52
ink251someone look up the launcher command line for ubuntu install for mjelva02:52
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gnomefreak!pastebin | CAsurfer02:52
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ubotuCAsurfer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:52
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ZarephathBadkitty: You still with us?02:53
mjelvacould anyone tell me how to install from cd via commandline?02:53
CAsurferjrib, note that it says that the module "vmnet" should be loaded, but I'm not able to modprobe it.02:53
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CientificoLocohello everybody I have java with automatix and it said me that it will be installed with plugins by firefox but I wanna see a site that needs java and it say that firefox need the plugin. what do I have to do?02:53
LjL!automatix02:53
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!02:53
ianmacgregor!automatix02:53
Zarephathmjelva: You have to mount the cdrom..then change directories to it..02:54
ubuntu_newbwich image should I download to run on my Intel Core 2 Duo System?02:54
BadkittySorry.. trying to find dependencies for gnome-network-manager02:54
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mjelvaZarephath: okay. and then?02:54
ThirstehThere's a copy of the old pastebin.com over at www.n00bh4x.net/paste too.. I like it cause it's ..a bix box, and well has syntax highlighting for all languages02:54
ubuntu_newbI just got the i386 one wich I know isn't right...02:54
jribubotu: tell CientificoLoco about java02:54
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Dominus_Suuscould someone help me troubleshoot a problem with my USB mouse, please?02:54
Zarephathmjelva: Then type the command of the program you want to run...usually preceded by ./<command>02:54
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CAsurferjrib, the complete text is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27912/02:55
ubuntu_newbcould someone please tell me the correct distro of Ubuntu to download for my Intel Core 2 Duo system?02:55
bimberiubuntu_newb: i38602:55
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mjelvaZarephath: i want to install ubuntu from this cd. what command would that be?02:56
rubyscubehmm.. has beryl been removed from the tree?... when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??02:56
ZarephathBadkitty: NP..check out the link to make sure your card is fully compatible with linux...after that it is simple to use NDISWRAPPER to install your windows drivers...if you want WPA for wireless you will need to install the wpa_supplicant package...02:56
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rubyscubepackage even02:56
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DCGrendelmjelva: the live cd? theres an icon on the desktop02:56
BadkittyZarephath... I've seen this. i think mine is the WMP54G v.4 which is supported green02:56
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rus1Hey, I'm trying to install a phpBB2 message board on my Ubuntu server, and when it tries to send an email (when registering a user) it says it failed sending an email. Looking on Google, it looks like I need to enable sendmail in PHP. Anyone know how to do this?02:56
mjelvaDCGrendel: i have to do it via commandline02:56
Zarephathmjelva: Just reboot...make sure your bios has boot from cdrom enabled...02:56
mjelvai'm already booted from the CD, damn it02:56
bimberiubuntu_newb: once you're installed you install the linux-686-smp package to take advantage of your processor02:56
brentcoolhey guys, I just applied updates to my mom's computer and her firefox logo went from the globe to the OFFICIAL firefox logo...did Debain/Ubuntu finally agree to Mozilla's terms?02:56
agentdoes anyone know what exact command/program finds out when is the appropriate time to do a fsck on boot?02:56
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ZarephathBadkitty: Then the rest is simple..just follow the instructions on the wiki step by step...02:57
DCGrendelmjelva: uhm, maybe you should have used the alternative cd?02:57
mjelvaDCGrendel: there was only one available that i saw02:57
ZarephathDCGrendel: Enlighten me please..what is this cd?02:57
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BadkittyI've tried.. Hold on.. Let me get the tools installed and then see where we are at02:57
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ZarephathBadkitty do a lspci and it will tell you for sure what card linux sees...02:58
mjelvaDCGrendel: ah, okay. there i see it.02:58
jribCAsurfer: there are a few hits on the forums with your same problem, looking through them now02:58
rancorusHi, i have ubuntu on my machine and i want to also install winxp, is there any documentation out there on how to do that ?02:58
mjelvaso you're saying me i can't install from this cd? then what the hell is the point with it?02:58
DCGrendelmjelva, Zarephath: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/   3rd set listed02:58
bimberi!dualboot | rancorus02:58
uboturancorus: Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:58
ianmacgregorbrentcool: I just checked updates, none, and I still have the globe icon in the menus02:58
mjelvaDCGrendel: you can't install from commandline if you're using the first CD?02:58
mjelvawhat kind of retarded shit is that?02:58
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brentcoolianmacgregor, then that's weird....It happened on an Edgy desktop02:59
jribCAsurfer: can you check that you have vmware-player-kernel-modules for your current kernel?  It seems you need that for the vmnet module02:59
Zarephathrancorus: Download the free VMWare server and install windows..then run it in a virtual environment...you can't play hard core games however..02:59
spdfmjelva, you have to download the alternet iso02:59
DCGrendelmjelva you probably can, i just don't know how02:59
Dominus_Suusdoes anybody know how to fix a USB mouse that randomly cuts out and restarts?02:59
XVampireX!codecs02:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:59
ZarephathDCGrendel:Thanks02:59
mjelvafuck this02:59
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mjelva"just works" my ass02:59
DCGrendelheh02:59
mjelvathis is ridiculous02:59
ianmacgregorbrentcool: Ahh, ok, this channel is for 6.06, which is what I have02:59
DCGrendelmjelva: for most people, it does.02:59
mjelvaa linux distro that doesn't let you manage it from commandline02:59
brentcoolok whats the Edgy channel?02:59
mjelvathat's fucking amazing02:59
bimberi!language02:59
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:59
LjL!language > mjelva02:59
rancorusZarephath: Honestly I have tried installing vmware but i never managed to get it to work02:59
Badkittyits ubuntu+102:59
brentcoolOk thanks Badkitty02:59
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Badkittysure np02:59
mjelvafuck this03:00
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DCGrendelmjelva: atleast it boots on your machine, I've got to make a special cd for my system cause *noone* wants to put bootloaders for oldworld macs on cds anymore03:00
ink251another one bites the dust03:00
spdfRidiculous03:00
Zarephathrancorus: All you have to do is create a symlink to the path and make it think it is where it is looking...(HINT)03:00
ink251patience is something you need a lot of working with linux03:00
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Dominus_Suusmjelva has a point, though, it doesn't 'just work' it takes a real belief in it03:00
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DCGrendeland the -- at the end of the kernel commandline for the installer makes the append entry too big for the bootloader i'm using03:01
CAsurferjrib, it seems I already have that package.03:01
rancorusZarephath: Everytime i try to install vmware-player in the terminal i get an error message03:01
BadkittyZarephath...My card doesn't show up on the list...03:01
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CAsurferjrib, kind of odd that I don't seem to have the module03:01
chukeHi03:01
Badkittywell....03:01
jribCAsurfer: did you make sure the one for your current kernel is installed?03:01
Alakazamz0rim getting these for my girlfriend: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.1458069503:01
Alakazamz0rthat way when we're in bed... it'll be a linux turn on too03:02
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Alakazamz0raahaha!03:02
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nu=)03:02
chukeI think i deleted nautilus, how can I get it back?03:02
Bladelessneed help for install, i cant do install from the live cd... it fails to load x03:02
CAsurferjrib, how do I check that?03:02
Badkittyok well it does03:02
Dominus_Suusalakazmz0r. just don't start confusing your girlfriend with your computer :P03:02
DCGrendelAlakazamz0r: be glad they arnt making those in childrens sizes, like cough Amber Combie cough03:02
CientificoLocojrib, I have done but it does not work03:02
jribchuke: why do you think you deleted nautilus?  How do you think you did this?  What does 'nautilus' in a terminal do?03:02
Bladelessso i try doing from text mode03:03
jribCientificoLoco: is sun-java5-plugin installed?03:03
Bladelessbut i just get more problems :S03:03
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rus1Hey, I'm trying to install a phpBB2 message board on my Ubuntu server, and when it tries to send an email (when registering a user) it says it failed sending an email. Looking on Google, it looks like I need to enable sendmail in PHP. Anyone know how to do this?03:03
CientificoLocojrib, yes it is03:03
jribCientificoLoco: close all instances of firefox and open it again03:03
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nurus103:04
Dominus_Suuscan anyone help me with my problematic USB mouse?03:04
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Thirstehrus1, you might simply have to just start the sendmail service03:04
nutry joining a php channel03:04
Dominus_Suus(please)03:04
BadkittyZarephath...Is there supposed to be a wmaster0 and a wlan0??03:04
tichcan someone help me to get beryl to work?03:04
rus1nu, can you tell me how to start the sendmail service?03:04
nudoes mail(to, subject, etc, etc) give you an SMTP error?03:04
TreznorGood evening, all.  Anyone have experience getting sounds to work in an IBM T42?  This is a fresh install, upgraded from Dapper.03:04
jribCAsurfer: 'uname -r' should tell you the current kernel you are running, then see if vmware-player-kernel-modules-$(uname -r) is installed03:04
jorikwhats a good secure ftp server ?03:04
Thirstehjorik, proftpd or wuftpd03:04
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ThirstehI prefer proftpd03:04
nurus1: i don't remember how. I'm sure google could find you an answer. if not, you could join a php channel on irc03:05
ink251vsftpd03:05
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Thirstehwuftpd is simpler tho03:05
nuit's not hard, i remember that03:05
ink251very secure ftp daemon03:05
jorikit needs to be easy to setup  (just give ppl access to their ~ with their passw)03:05
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Thirstehjorik, prolly what ink251 said if you want it to be "very secure" :D03:05
ink251heh03:05
CAsurferjrib, I'll be back in a few minutes, I need to go help a friend03:06
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ink251how much do SCSI tape drives go for these days?03:06
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jribCAsurfer: sure03:06
WeaZeLb0yI had windows installed on a pc my dvd drive worked fine, I installed Ubuntu to dual boot, the installation worked, but now after I boot into Ubuntu or Windows neither recognize my DVD drive...I think it has to do something with booting with GRUB...anyone have any ideas?03:06
jorikits used by kernel.org ... so i guess it'll do :o)03:06
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mighty_falconhmmm i just built kino 0.9.2 from source but when i launch kino now it still sais 0.8.0 which is the version i installed from apt-get03:06
CientificoLocojrib, does not work I have installed java since I refresh my laptop03:07
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mighty_falconhow do i get it to run 0.9.2? anyone?03:07
jribmighty_falcon: how did you install the kino you built?03:07
palomerquick, someone remind me how to search for a file name in a directory tree03:07
mighty_falconjrib: just ./configure , make, sudo make install03:07
jribmighty_falcon: did kino get installed to /usr/local?03:07
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tichhas anyone had any luck with beryl?03:07
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Dominus_Suuspalomer: find -name <file name>03:08
mighty_falconjrib: from the msgs printed it seems so yes03:08
jribCientificoLoco: does /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist?03:08
thorpalomer: 'find / -name <filename>03:08
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rlaredhey all. . . i'm dual booting right now and i was wondering if there is a way to run the windows partition under ubuntu?03:08
jribmighty_falcon: does /usr/local/bin/kino  work?03:08
chukeso yeah, how do I get nautilus back03:08
rlaredi don't want to have to reinstall windows under vmware really03:08
adiabattyHi, I've configured a new logfile that outputs to /var/log/foo.log, and it seems to be rotating files on a daily basis, and keeping only four archived logs (not what I'd expect given "weekly\nrotate 4 in /etc/logrotate.conf). Is there anyplace else that might have log rotation settings, other than /etc/logrotate.d/?03:08
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brainotich: i had some luck with it, very nice03:08
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ink251tich: its awesome03:08
TreznorIs there a channel for support for Edgy Eft?03:08
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mighty_falconjrib: it sure does, oke ty ! :)03:09
ink251ubuntu+03:09
jribTreznor: #ubuntu+103:09
CientificoLocojrib, no it does not03:09
ianmacgregorTreznor: #ubuntu+103:09
TreznorThank you.03:09
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HeritzHello guys, do you have any source to download "Bluefish" on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?03:09
tichbraino, ink251, did you just follow the wiki instructions to set it up?03:09
ink251hold on ill get what worked for me03:09
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ink251i dont think it was wikipedia03:09
nu=)03:09
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ink251wait, do you have an nvidia card?03:09
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Dominus_SuusHeritz, are you talking about the .deb binary?03:09
jribCientificoLoco: what is the output of:  dpkg -l sun-java5-plugin | grep ^ii03:09
brainoI don't recall, but i have an nvidia card03:09
ianmacgregor!bluefish03:09
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB03:09
HeritzYeah, or at least the source to download it using Synaptic03:10
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skelterCan anyone give me some tips on how I'd go about recompiling my kernel for framebuffer support?03:10
HeritzI am not getting it on Synaptic, dunno why.03:10
ianmacgregorHeritz: It's in the universe repo03:10
ink251tich: what type of graphics card do you have03:10
Dominus_Suus!bluefish03:10
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB03:10
ianmacgregorHeritz: Enable universe03:10
tichink251, nvidia03:10
ink251ok hold up03:10
Dominus_Suusanyone can help me with my USB mouse yet?03:11
ink251does the light flicker when it dies?03:11
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grndslmanybody use stardict??03:13
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CientificoLocojrib, grep?? for what?03:13
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jribCientificoLoco: that exact command like I typed it after the :03:14
ink251tich: i tried for hours and the only guide that worked for me is http://dev.tufuncion.com/xgl-nvidia-ubuntu-apt-get03:14
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CientificoLocojrib, ii  sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-06-1     The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.003:14
tichink251, okay i'll check that out.03:15
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chukeOk, so: My sound stopped working. Whenever i would do anything sound related ubuntu would tell me that certain Gstreamer or alsa plugins were missing. The people on the forums told me I should use the package manager to reinstall everything relating to those two, then restart. Nothing happened. They then told me 'completely remove' all Gstreamer and Alsa stuff then reinstall all of them. Now when I turn my computer on I get to t03:15
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jribCientificoLoco: 'locate libjavaplugin.so'03:15
jbmigelis that xgl stuff supposed to be in default sid er the new one?03:15
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CientificoLocojrib,  what do I have to do?03:16
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jbmigeledgy03:16
brainotich: I may have used this site: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit03:16
jribCientificoLoco: just type: locate libjavaplugin.so03:16
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jbmigel!xgl03:16
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:16
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ink251braino: have you tried any of the beryl themes or any modifications to the settings?03:16
CientificoLocojrib, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:17
CientificoLoco/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:17
CientificoLoco/usr/lib/mozilla-snapshot/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:17
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brainoi don't have it going anymore, but i did modify the themes through that emerald manager i believe03:17
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jribCientificoLoco: type: file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:18
tichbraino, it seems to me that xfce's window manager takes over.03:18
jmworxWho should I talk to if I want to get the "speex" package removed from amd64 Dapper. It's always been broken despite a patch being posted 6 months ago. Considering nobody's interested in fixing the problem, I request the package to be removed (I'm the Speex maintained).03:18
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CAsurferjrib, I wasn't able to find the kernel for which my version of vmware was installed03:19
brainotich: takes over when? When you start it from gdm?03:19
CientificoLocojrib, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so'03:19
CientificoLocojrib, so..03:19
jribCientificoLoco: http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml does this page say you have java?03:20
atticstormGuys, have you seen in Gnome on laptops that there are often blue lines across the buttons?  I do not see it on the KDE side, on on the Gnome side, and will two differnt laptops.03:20
chukewell, i'll just try later then03:20
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tichright after i choose beryl in the "select window manager" area. it even says it is using beryl but it is not. (unless it doesn't change anything003:21
JonBoonwhat does this error mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27916/03:21
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brainohmm, that may be what it uses as your fallback WM, but that wouldn't be the default (metacity is the default fallback wm)03:22
sethkJonbo, not an error03:22
CientificoLocojrib, it said that I jave installed java but firefox says that need the plugin03:22
sethkJonbo, it means just what it says, that there is no reference key to compare this key against.03:22
JonBoonim trying to use easyubuntu to install codecs and i get that03:22
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sethkJonBoon, it's not a problem03:22
HeritzOK, thanks guys I got the Bluefish installed with the Universe thing that you said. Thanks again.03:22
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Heritz:D03:22
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jribCientificoLoco: you have java plugin working then, what page make firefox tell you this message?03:22
atticstormUpdate on the blue lines on Gnome buttons issue, they disapear when the mouse pointer is waived over them - the focus touches them.03:23
JonBooni dont have sound on sites like youtube or other java sites though03:23
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tichbraino, i don't have metacity installed because i use xfce (xubuntu)03:23
sethkJonBoon, it's a pseudo-security thing.  You must have seen it before, either "certificate can't be verified" or key can't be verified.03:23
carrera594lhey03:23
La_PaRCa!es > CientificoLoco03:23
jribJonBoon: youtube uses flash, not java03:23
sethkJonBoon, that message is not related to your sound problem03:23
JonBooni mean flash, sorry03:23
JonboJonBoon03:23
JonboJonbo03:23
Jonbo:/03:23
brainotich: ya, the guides will probably be different for you then.. you might want to find one for xfce, but I have never tried that. sorry03:23
carrera594who are the Admins here i need a lot of help03:23
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JonBoonhaha03:23
sethkJonbo, sorry, tab completion.03:23
ikarugahi all. I'm to get my tv out to work. The bios screen shows up on the tv out, but once the x-server kicks in, I get a blank screen. How do i cycle thru the available screen resolutions for the tv?03:24
CientificoLocojrib, I no idea03:24
JonBoonok so how do i get flash sound?03:24
CientificoLocoI do not have idea03:24
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jribclaviola: well does it tell you the message if you go to www.google.com for example?03:24
jribubotu: tell JonBoon about flash03:24
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MrProper_JonBoon, did you fix your flash problem?03:25
carrera594does anyone have a WG121 Wireless Adpter working with a WEP enabled router03:25
carrera594?03:25
JonBoonno, not yet03:25
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jribJonBoon: for your apt gpg key problem: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ .  Altough you may want to contact #easyubuntu about it03:25
JonBooni dont know why it wont work, mp3s and the such play fine03:25
ubuntu_newbThe i386 version of Ubuntu will work with my Intel Core 2 Duo system?03:26
Dr_willis    ubuntu_newb yes03:26
cycomubuntu_newb: should...03:26
MrProper_JonBoon, ok change the following in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc03:26
ubuntu_newbok, I thought that would be the x86 version though03:26
Dr_willisunless you are refering to an Mac. :P not sure about them03:26
MrProper_JonBoon, FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"03:26
MrProper_JonBoon: close firefox completely03:26
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rubyscubewhen I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??03:26
JonBoonim pretty new to linux, so you'll have to give me more detailed instructions :D03:26
Dr_willisubuntu_newb,  where are you finding these different versions?03:26
MrProper_JonBoon, i had to restart to get it to work for me03:26
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Dr_willisx86 is for the  i386 - or am i missing somthing here.. :)03:27
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ubuntu_newbhmm, I think I'm just confuxed03:28
ubuntu_newbconfused*03:28
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jribJonBoon: the restricted wiki page has detailed instructions03:28
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ubuntu_newbDr_willis: you are correct03:29
ubuntu_newbsorry, I was confused03:29
Flannelrubyscube: there are no beryl packages in ubuntu repositories, so... I dont know what you're trying to do03:29
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ubuntu_newbNow, if only I could get rid of my windows system for good03:29
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Dr_willisubuntu_newb,  all it takes is one good virus and it gets rid of itself.03:29
ubuntu_newblol03:30
ubuntu_newbtrue03:30
Thirstehubuntu_newb, if/when you do get it installed, be sure to upgrade to the linux-686-SMP kernel, since it takes advantage of some of the newer CPU features, and is based on the 686 architecture, rather than 38603:30
ubuntu_newbThat's why I want to get rid of it03:30
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FlannelThirsteh: -SMP kernels don't exist as of dapper, it's in all kernels on arches that support it03:30
rubyscubeFlannel: aha! that explains it :P .. I read the how-to in the forums, and they gave the impression that an apt-get install beryl should actually yield some results. If you have the time, could you tell me my alternatives? Just install from source??03:30
ubuntu_newbI have a desktop (800mhz AMD Duron) running suse linux 10.1 and it never needs to be rebooted03:30
ThirstehFlannel, I see, I didn't know that. Thank you :)03:30
ubuntu_newbit's been running for over 1 month now03:30
BadkittyQuestion. Im trying to install some dependencies for network-manager-gnome.. and one is installing but saying it is not installed... in synaptic it shows it but it doesn't have the logo next to it.. what doesd this mean?03:31
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ubuntu_newbI've already had to reinstall my windows system since the time I powered on the suse system lol03:31
Flannelrubyscube: I have no idea.  If there's a howto, they probably mention which repositories they have, or whatever.  You could try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl, they might be able to better address the issue03:31
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FlannelBadkitty: the logo is stuff supported fully by ubuntu (in main) if it doesn't, it's either in universe, or multiverse03:31
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gop_hi03:32
gop_I can't seem to see why I get grub erro 1703:32
jmworxWho should I talk to if I want to get the "speex" package removed from amd64 Dapper? It's always been broken despite a patch being posted 6 months ago. Considering nobody's interested in fixing the problem, I request the package to be removed (I'm the Speex maintained).03:32
BadkittySo it doesn't mean it shouldn't work just because there is not a logo?03:32
rubyscubeFlannel: yep, as I said.. I have added the beerorkid repository, and nothing there either.. and that's supposed to be the official beryl source. The #beryl channel is totally dead.. I'll try #ubuntu-xgl. Thanks man :)03:32
claviolajrib: I'm sorry?03:33
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jribclaviola: sorry, name completion error03:33
jmworxhi adiabatty03:33
FlannelBadkitty: nope.  No logo doesn't mean broken, just not fully supported (supported by the community, instead of by canonical)03:33
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jmworxadiabatty: can you do anything for me here?03:33
moghiya how do i force my wireless nic to come up as another device , from eth2 to wlan0 for example03:33
Flannelrubyscube: er... beerorkid is the automatix repository, you're looking for trouble if you're using automatix.03:33
adiabattyjmworx: Not likely; I just dropped in to ask a question...03:33
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jmworxOh, OK.03:34
mogi set it in modprobe.d/aliases03:34
BadkittyOk, so the package I am trying to install is libgnutsls12 which requires libtas1-2... bu when i install it, libgnutsls12 still asks for it03:34
gop_so what a good way of fixing grub error 1703:34
Alakazamz0rare Xeon chips 64bit?03:34
Flanneljmworx: speex is in universe, you should talk to the individual package maintainer, he may not know the patch exists, or whatnot.  Alternatively, you can ask the MOTU.03:34
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dfcarneysome xeon processors are03:35
jmworxFlannel: Any link?03:35
utnubuanyone know where i could find drivers for a dell photo printer 720 on ubuntu03:35
dfcarneyjust google for it03:35
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utnubui have been03:35
jribubotu: tell utnubu about printing03:35
utnubulinuxprinting.org didnt have any03:35
Flanneljmworx: maintainer is: Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>  so, email them, I suppose.03:36
jributnubu: try similar models03:36
utnubuthanks03:36
mrbond82alakazamor - the new ones are03:36
Dr_willisutnubu,  find out who really makes that printer.. dell most likely is just sticking their name on it.03:36
normeoEkushey: just downloading the ubuntu desktop cd for what feels like the 20th time03:36
normeohey**03:36
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cogitatushay. what's the easiest way to run ubuntu with no x?03:36
jributnubu: dells are like lexmarks so try those too03:36
krazykitafaik, dell rebrands lexmark printers a lot03:36
jmworxFlannel: I don't get it. How is the ubuntu package maintained by Debian people?03:36
ink251install debian03:36
clearzenCan anyone tell me how I would set up Cron jobs?03:36
cogitatusshould i just boot to failsafe?03:36
jbmigel_man cron03:37
jrib!cron | clearzen03:37
ubotuclearzen: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm03:37
mrbond82can anyone tell me how to fix my xgl compiz so that the windows have borders and title bars on them??03:37
jmworxFlannel: The bug is actually fixed in the Debian universe (and even Edgy) BTW. It's Dapper that's broken.03:37
moganybody?03:37
Flanneljmworx: because ubuntu is based on debian, a lot of packages are identical (or almost) between the two.  If it's just in dapper, and fixed in edgy...03:37
ink251mrbond, change the theme03:37
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ink251some themes dont have borders03:37
Flanneljmworx: I don'tknow, ask the MOTU about getting the fix put into dapper, since it's a LTS, they should do it.03:37
jmworxFlannel: Link for MOTU?03:37
Flanneljmworx: You'd have to ask them for details, Im not really sure how you'd go about it03:37
normeoanyone have some good knowledge of the 6.06 ubuntu desktop cd and why it won't launch the install?03:38
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docmuranyone here use or know the program oregano03:38
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Flanneljmworx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU03:38
CAsurferjrib, I got it to work. It was just a matter of getting vmware modules that were the same version of my kernel. Thanks for the tip.03:38
Flannelmrbond82: #ubuntu-xgl03:38
jribCAsurfer: great03:38
dfcarneymog: sorry, i don't know.  but i'm curious -- why do you want to change the interface name?03:39
jmworxFlannel: Thanks03:39
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jorikwhats a good console torrent client ?03:40
mogit just bugs me, esp as i thought changing the aliases did this03:40
ink251bittorrent03:40
ink251just dont use the gnome frontend03:40
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jorikoh ok03:41
tymolyhow about azureus?03:41
mrbond82flannel - no one available on that channel :(03:41
nuQuestion: My desktop shows the SDA1 harddrive(windows). How do i get rid of it? (without unmounting)03:41
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Flannelmrbond82: try #xgl as well03:41
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jribnu: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible in gconf-editor03:43
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mrbond82has anyone got xgl and compiz working ?03:46
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_ian_what do i need to do so thaty ubuntu saves my opened programs when i shutdown... just like kubuntu03:47
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ink251ian, i dont know but i would be interested in that too03:48
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_ian_hmmm thnx03:48
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jrib_ian_: system > preferences > sessions03:48
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_ian_anyway will support for 5.10 suddenly be gone.... because i am having problems with 6.06.... im using 5.10 now i tried installing both kubuntu and ubutu 6.06 but my ethernet card cant be detected...03:49
Flannel_ian_: 5.10 is supported for 18 months03:49
nujrib:  thanks alot. let me try. (sorry for the delayed answer, was googling too)03:49
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jbmigel_freebsd is awesome im a fan too03:50
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nuAlso, how do i take a screenshot with console?03:51
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ablyssnu, use the import command03:52
nuhow?03:53
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jbmigel_nu you cant get what you need with output redirection?03:53
xTERMiNATORHi friends03:53
nujbmigel_: no idea. i haven't tried anything.03:53
PumpkinPieIm new to ubuntu.. is there apt-get? and by in large its like debian?03:53
nui don't know how to use the import method03:54
jribPumpkinPie: yes, yes03:54
FlannelPumpkinPie: yes, ubuntu uses apt-get03:54
xTERMiNATORI too a new to Ubuntu03:54
ablyssnu, like this --> import -window root screenshot.jpg03:54
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jribubotu: tell PumpkinPie about repos03:54
FlannelPumpkinPie: but, If youre using the desktop, Synaptic is the GUI version03:54
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ablyssmay have to install import first though03:54
jbmigel_nu well if you run your command with a > and a filename after it, all the output will goto that file eg "mycommand > saveme"03:54
xTERMiNATORcan anyone help me?03:55
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jrib!helpme03:55
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:55
xTERMiNATORok sorry03:55
nuablyss: it said "import: command not found"03:55
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nujbmigel_: does that go for all programs too?03:55
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jribnu: install imagemagick03:55
ablyssnu, enable universe rep in synaptic and find it03:55
ablyssor what jrib said03:56
jbmigel_nu anything you run at command line you can save the output to file... then open it with your favorite editor03:56
nueither one will do?03:56
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nujbmigel_: thanks.03:56
gop_hey03:56
ablyssimport is part of imagemagick shell commands03:56
MorningWoodhello03:56
gop_anay here know how to fix grub error 1703:56
jbmigel_nu np03:56
gop_the ubuntu help page has no information03:57
BadkittyIm about to throwmy wireless card into the trash?!!? Can anyone recommend a wireless lan card that *WORKS* with edgy?03:57
Flannelgop_: depends on what you did to break it ;)  reinstalling grub will always fix it though03:57
FlannelBadkitty: #ubuntu+1 for edgy people03:57
gop_I am booted on th elive cd03:57
gop_the03:57
MorningWoodmy intel 2200 works perfectly03:57
gop_flannel I just installed ubuntu some hours ago03:57
gop_rebooted with out the cd03:57
gop_and got error 1703:57
xTERMiNATORI wanted to move a folder to /usr/lib03:57
gop_then I booted back again with my cd03:57
xTERMiNATORbut it's not allowing me03:57
Flannelgop_: ah, sounds like grub didn't get installed correctly.03:57
Flannel!tell gop_ about grub03:58
gop_and i checked groot=(hd2,2)03:58
FlannelxTERMiNATOR: use sudo to copy it03:58
MorningWooddoes anyone here have ubuntu running on a gateway laptop?03:58
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xTERMiNATORok will try03:58
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jribxTERMiNATOR: what are you trying to do exactly?  It sounds like there may be a better option03:58
xTERMiNATORI am trying to install some plugins for Eclipse IDE03:59
MorningWoodor that might be able to help me with the function key volume/brightness status display?03:59
xTERMiNATORso I have a folder named 'eclipse' on my desktop03:59
gop_flannel groot=(hd2,2)03:59
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tnncwhat is the best way to add hardware to ubuntu after install is done03:59
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jbmigel_tnnc what sort of hardware?03:59
xTERMiNATORI want to copy the contents of that to /usr/lib/eclipse03:59
tnncsound card and video card04:00
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noxxleafter installing firestarter firewall i could not launch a program called news rover with Wine. I tried uninstalling firestarter but it still doesnt launch. Does firestarter leave some configurations behind??04:00
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jbmigel_tnnc for video you will have to update your xorg.conf file telling it what new vid driver to use04:01
ablyssnoxxle, instead of removing firestarter, just disable it04:01
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jribxTERMiNATOR: I don't use eclipse, but can't you use a directory in HOME like ~/.eclipse maybe?  Or at least use /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib, that's reserved for the package manager04:01
_ian_if i create a user and tick on admin prvileges that new user can also access sudo right/04:01
jbmigel_tnnc im not sure about sound, maybe a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base will do it04:01
Flannel_ian_: right04:01
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xTERMiNATORjrib, shall I pm you?04:02
tnncjbmigel thanks04:02
Flannelgop_: where is your /boot partition?04:02
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jribxTERMiNATOR: it's better to just talk here, that way everyone can help04:02
xTERMiNATORok :)04:02
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xTERMiNATORI actually don't know how to install the plugins04:02
xTERMiNATORso, I searched for the eclipse folder and found it in /usr/lib04:02
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noxxleablyss how do i disable it04:03
jribxTERMiNATOR: well first did you check if the plugins were in the repositories?04:03
xTERMiNATORso tried copying04:03
noxxlealso is avahi daemon supposed to be on by default04:03
xTERMiNATORno04:03
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xTERMiNATORhow to check?04:03
ablyssnoxxle, in the firestarter panel.. there's a big on/off button04:03
jribxTERMiNATOR: have you enabled universe?04:03
xTERMiNATORsorry to ask all these, I am real new into Ubuntu :(04:03
baxter_kylieHi. Is a partition for LVM extended or primary?04:03
xTERMiNATORyes04:03
noxxleablyss i tried that, didnt work04:03
noxxleits still blocking ports04:03
noxxlei uninstalled clamav and that also is still listed as a startup item04:04
jribxTERMiNATOR: np, that's what this channel is for.  Just search for 'eclipse plug' in synaptic.  That turns up a few hits here04:04
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noxxlestupid automatix04:04
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ablyssnoxxle, firestarter doesn't block ports by default.. did you tell it to block ports?04:04
xTERMiNATORok04:04
xTERMiNATORI will try04:04
knapperstupid manualmatix04:04
Chm0dhopefully i will be able to see what I am writing.  I tried installing compiz which totally fubared everything up and most of the times any writiing is like gone.  is there a roll back feature for ubuntu or anything of the sort?04:04
noxxleno i didnt04:05
nuubuntu doesn't support fluxbox, does it?04:05
xTERMiNATORlikewise, how do you install a .bin file?04:05
noxxleis the avahi daemon safe?04:05
xTERMiNATORI have downloaded such a file for real player04:05
ablyssnoxxle, try to telnet to your news group, like telnet <IP> <port> and see what happens04:05
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noxxledunno their ip, but i can use it in windows xp04:06
xTERMiNATORthank you very much jrib :)04:06
xTERMiNATORI got the exact plugin there04:06
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Flannelnu: fluxbox is in universe04:06
jribxTERMiNATOR: usually you will want to use the repositories instead since it will help you manage your software from a central location (and you are pretty sure the package won't break things).  realplayer is actually available in the repositories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods04:06
noxxlewhat is the point of firestarter anyway? i thought linux didnt need firewall04:06
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ablyssnoxxle, maybe reinstall firestarter and enable the ports04:06
Chm0danyone?04:06
Flannelnoxxle: firestarter is just a frontend to iptables, the firewall built into linux04:07
xTERMiNATORso I have to just add:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods to the repository list04:07
xTERMiNATORright?04:07
gop_those insturction say nothing about error 1704:07
jbmigel_noxxle why would linux not need a firewall?04:07
jribxTERMiNATOR: no, you have to click on that link and read it :)04:07
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xTERMiNATORok thank you very much for spending your valuable time for me :)04:07
jribxTERMiNATOR: np04:07
gop_I went to the link flannel it gives vague idea04:07
Bladelessive installed ubuntu from text mode but x wont load for some reason04:08
Bladelesshow do i fix this?04:08
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xTERMiNATORby the way, how do you boot directly to text mode?04:08
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xTERMiNATORrather than the GUI?04:08
Flannelgop_: right, like I said, reinstalling WILL fix it regardless.  What partition is /boot on?04:08
jbmigel_Bladeless have your installed gnome-desktop or something04:08
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Bladelessyeah04:08
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Bladelessx doesnt load it just generates errors04:08
gop_flannel how does one go by reinstalling it04:08
jribBladeless: maybe someone can help if you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:09
gop_do I go in to the grub shell04:09
jbmigel_Bladeless like what kind of errors04:09
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Flannelgop_: that first page talks about reinstalling it (the reinstalling after windows one)04:09
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xTERMiNATOR https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods led me to a page without contents04:09
jbmigel_Bladeless dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg04:10
gop_what the url to that page04:10
Flannel!tell gop_ about grub04:10
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jribxTERMiNATOR: it's loading here, try refresh?04:10
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xTERMiNATORok04:11
FlannelxTERMiNATOR: it redirects you to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods04:11
Bladelessdpkg?04:11
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xTERMiNATORyes04:11
xTERMiNATORgot it now04:11
jbmigel_Bladeless ya man it will fix your xorg settings04:11
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xTERMiNATORhow to boot into text mode?04:11
Bladelessthe error is no screens found, and just displays foreign characters04:11
xTERMiNATORwithout entering the GUI?04:11
xarqwith the latest update to dapper, I am unable to mount my SD card which is normally at /dev/sda1... any ideas which /dev it has moved to?04:11
jbmigel_Bladeless dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg04:11
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jbmigel_Bladeless sorry its like this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
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capiCrimmI want to open xmms with crontab, but I get an error saying unable to open the display?04:13
jsherlockjust installed amarok 1.4.3 and mp3's will only play when amarok is started with root, anyone know what permissions i should check on?04:13
james296how can I get the wallpaper and spplash screen that was originally for version 6.10?04:13
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capiCrimmI can't think of a workaround... :\04:13
baxter_kylieLVM help needed... anyone?04:13
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ablysscapiCrimm, maybe try xmms-shell04:14
noexAnyone have a second for a quick question? If I am trying to write a audio cd from mp3s, on Serpentine, which GStreamer plugin do I need?04:14
ksaok my question is how to install apache2 when i try to install it i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6... how do i install this04:14
rbiljsherlock ... do a /join #amarok    ... and talk to the guys in Amarok04:14
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capiCrimmnvm04:15
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MorningWoodhello, I was wondering if someone could help me with that might be able to help me with the function key volume/brightness status display on my laptop?04:15
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liberviscoso, would you guys say it's now quite safe to upgrade to edgy RC?04:15
xTERMiNATORnot sure ksa, but try sudo apt-get install libc604:15
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jsherlockcapiCrimm: xport DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/xmms04:15
liberviscoany unexpected bugs?04:15
MorningWood the brightness is changed via function key and whenever it is changed, in windows it popped up a little blue status window alerting the user of how bright the lcd is. In ubuntu it pops up but is all distorted. It's a gateway m360 laptop.04:15
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jsherlockcapiCrimm, *export04:15
jsherlockrbil, thanks04:15
ksaok my question is how to install apache2 when i try to install it i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6... how do i install this04:16
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Flannellibervisco: #ubuntu+104:16
xTERMiNATORnot sure ksa, but try sudo apt-get install libc604:16
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Clinton__ksa: make sure you've done upgrade and dist-upgrade first04:16
liberviscook thx Flannel04:16
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ksaClinton__: whats dist-upgrade04:17
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Bladelessi tried your command still same error generated :S04:17
some_guywho here is good with beryl04:18
Bladelessim using an ati x70004:18
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james296so how can I get the Edgy splash screen and wallpaper?04:18
james296FOR Edgy?04:18
Flanneljames296: they should be there.  ask in #ubuntu+104:18
xarqjames296: might be on gnome-look.org04:18
ksaxTERMiNATOR: i tryed that and did not work04:18
ksaClinton__: whats dist-upgrade04:18
xTERMiNATORsorry :(04:19
xarqksa: it's a command for apt-get04:19
ksaitso k04:19
james296they are not they were removed04:19
Flanneljames296: ask in #ubuntu+104:19
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ksahow do i make sure i have done dist-upgrade first04:19
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braskowhere is a good pastebin?04:20
jbmigel_ksa you should really know if you did that04:20
Joetheoddksa: type sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade in a terminal04:20
ksaok04:20
ksaty04:20
nujbmigel_: more questions about screenshots for you04:20
nuhow do i make it so it takes the screenshot in a given # of seconds04:20
ksajbmigel_:  i go E: Sense dist is not understood, try true or false.04:21
rbilnu install KSnapshot ... very easy to use and you can time snapshots04:21
some_guyanyone good with beryl? (ati mobility radeon 9200)04:21
agentwhat function in python is used to execute (and get the results of) a program?04:21
nurbil: thanks. but can it be done with import also?04:21
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nuagent04:22
nuyou just type04:22
rbilnu, what's import?04:22
nupython filename.py04:22
braskoanyone seen this error before?04:22
braskohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/TusEmq42.html04:22
Flannelsome_guy: ask in #beryl04:22
braskohappens with nxclient to xubuntu04:22
gop_is it a problem if / and /boot are in the same partion04:22
some_guyok04:22
Flannelgop_: no04:22
jribagent: see the reference for popen (#pyhton is better for these questions)04:22
nurbil: import is what i use to take screenshots. (import -window root name.jpg)04:22
some_guythanx04:22
jbmigel_gop_ but if one gets corrupted it will take the other with it not being seperate04:22
agentnu: i mean, in a python script :) function as in open(), etc.04:22
agentjrib: thank you04:23
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rbilnu, well you're doing it in the cli then.04:23
gop_I am so confused at this stage04:23
rbilnu, using imagemagick?04:23
Flannelgop_: what partition is /boot on04:23
ksais there a way to install all the web server stuff on to the desktop version04:23
gop_hdd304:23
nurbil:  yes04:23
rbilksa, of course04:23
gop_flannel /dev/hdd304:23
Flannelgop_: that's hd(3,2) not (2,2)04:23
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rbilnu, do you want to use the cli to capture screen shots?04:24
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gop_oh04:24
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ksarbil how do i do it04:24
nurbil: yes04:24
gop_so go back to menu04:24
rbilnu, in a full screen terminal? no idea, sorry. I thought you wanted to capture from desktop04:24
JavaDeveloperHi, any DVD burning software that burns MDS image?04:25
JoetheoddTry doing help export04:25
gop_k I did hd(3,2)04:25
nurbil: np. thanks04:25
gop_flannel thanks04:25
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gop_that should be it right04:25
JoetheoddYou may have to install an imagemagic package, I don't recall it's name but you can search on packages.google.com, I think.04:25
Flannelgop_: yeah04:25
gop_I bbl04:25
gop_flannel thanks04:25
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gop_so know umount /dev/hdd304:25
gop_and reboot04:25
bruenigpackages.google.com?04:26
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cafuegoJavaDeveloper: alcohol for windows04:26
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ksahow do i install all the programs form the server version to the desk top version easy04:26
noexAnyone know why Serpentine might not allow me to burn a audio cd from mp3's? I downloaded the GStreamer MAD plugin. Any ideas?04:26
Flannelgop_: er... no?  just change in the grub menu04:26
JavaDevelopercafuego: I guess I am asking for Linux04:26
jbmigel_bruenig packages.ubuntu.com04:26
gop_yes I did that04:26
snook353what is the best compression/archive format?04:26
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gop_I changed from 2,2 and pressed save04:26
Flannelgop_: right, that's it.04:26
gop_I did gkesudo /boot/menu.lst or what ever04:26
cafuegosnook353: Depends on your data; bzip2 is pretty good.04:26
gop_flannel so shoudl I reboot from the live cd04:26
snook353ok, thanks cafuego04:26
cafuegoJavaDeveloper: none that I know of04:27
gop_ brb04:27
ksawhats the best and fastest way install all the programs form the server version to the desk top version04:27
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JavaDevelopercafuego: you must be joking....no software burns MDS image in linux?  but anyway, if that is the case, thanks for you information though,.04:27
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jbmigel_ksa sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop04:27
ksau have desk top04:28
JavaDevelopercafuego: no offense, but just sounds weird to me....hehehe...04:28
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noexAnyone able to help fill me in?04:29
Flannelksa: the server version doesn't have any special software04:29
cafuegoJavaDeveloper: Well, afaik it's a file format spectific to windoze apps... even more specifixally designed to handle copy protection ..  this is just not an issue on Linux... so there may not be a large need.04:29
ksaflannel im just a noob and i have no idea what i need04:30
krazykitJavaDeveloper: i think there's an mds2iso somewhere04:30
JavaDevelopercafuego: ic....04:30
ksai tryed putting a desk top on the server one and i cant04:30
ksanot desk top04:30
Flannelksa: there's nothing preventing you from doing so04:30
JavaDeveloperkrazykit: how about if I have the ISO for DVD? what software is available in linux?04:30
ksaa GUI04:30
cafuegoJavaDeveloper: Note: I may bve completely wrong :-)04:30
ksai just dont know how04:30
krazykitJavaDeveloper: if you have the iso, you can burn it with whatever.  i like k3b04:30
ksalol04:30
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bruenigJavaDeveloper, to burn an iso, you can just write click on it and select write to disc, nautilus will burn it04:31
Flannelksa: we've told you: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and then you'll want to change the kernel.  If you have the desktop CD already, just reinstall, it'll be eaiser04:31
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JavaDeveloperbruenig: sounds good...thank you guys...04:31
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ksaim running desktop04:31
jbmigel_ksa just start with the desktop cd then everything will be there for you. no need to start as server install unless your ready04:31
Flannelksa: then, you're done.  What other software do you want?04:32
ksai just dont know how to install all the programs that server has04:32
Flannelksa: "server" has no special programs.  What are you looking for?04:32
ksaits not like windows were i can ezley find the files04:32
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ksaapache204:32
ksafor one04:32
rbilksa, what does the server have? you talking about LAMP?04:32
Flannel!tell ksa about lamp04:32
bruenigksa, the desktop has everything the server has and then more unless you are looking for LAMP04:32
ksaya04:33
jbmigel_!lamp04:33
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.04:33
Flannelksa: that page tells you how to install the LAMP thing (or you can just take apaches instructions in that)04:33
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ksaok ill try agan04:33
nomasteryodaksa, there's also the UbuntuCenter04:33
interloperhello everyone can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?04:33
jbmigel_!nvidia04:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:33
interloperi do have it installed04:33
nomasteryodawhich is not really ubuntu, but does do LAMP and adds some stuff like a ampache tunes server04:33
jbmigel_interloper well you're done! w00t04:34
interloperim having some performance issues04:34
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braino ksa: have you ran synaptic? there you will find alot of different things to install (including apache)04:34
jbmigel_interloper are you sure you have direct rendering on ? "glxinfo | grep direct" will tell you04:34
ksabraino: no04:34
ksawhats synaptic04:35
interloperyes i do jbmigel_04:35
bruenig!synaptic | ksa04:35
ubotuksa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto04:35
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brainotype in sudo synaptic04:35
brueniggksudo synaptic04:35
jbmigel_interloper well what sort of performance issues are you having then04:35
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Aven_hey04:36
nomasteryodajbmigel_, interloper should check that the module nvidia is loaded... lsmod | grep nvidia04:36
bruenig!hi04:36
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:36
rbilbruenig, what's the benefit of using gksudo over plain sudo?04:36
interloperi have a dual core 2.8 with 6600gt 10000rpm raptor and a gig of ddr3 ram and getting 60fps in jedi outcast with cedega 5.004:36
Aven_I accidently played two videos at a time, and so the sound stopped04:36
Aven_I've restarted my computer, etc. but how can i have my computer detect the sound again?04:37
JaxonHe should also check to see that his xorg.conf is using the nvidia module and not the nv module04:37
interlopernvidia               4547540  1204:37
nomasteryodayup04:37
interloperi2c_core               21904  3 i2c_acpi_ec,i2c_viapro,nvidia04:37
jbmigel_interloper I wasnt aware ddr3 ram was available yet04:37
interloperagpgart                34888  2 nvidia,via_agp04:37
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bruenigusing sudo for graphical apps can result in having .ICEauthority owned by root making it impossible to login04:37
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Vuenquestion, is there a gtk alternative to frostwire?04:37
Vueni04:37
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Vueni'm sick of java applications04:37
Aven_hey, i need help04:38
interloperi could be mistaken could be ddr204:38
Aven_I accidently played two videos at a time, and so the sound stopped04:38
interlopersry04:38
Aven_I've restarted my computer, etc. but how can i have my computer detect the sound again?04:38
nomasteryodaVuen, lol me too04:38
jribVuen: gtk-gnutella04:38
rbilbruenig, never had a prob, but I'll take your word for it. thanks04:38
Samus_Aranwhat determines how many "forks" are available ?  I have max user processes at 200 and get fork resource unavailable, then I increase it to 500 and still get the message.  I have 428 MiB RAM free (+/- cache), and 5557 MiB swap free, so it isn't that04:38
mneptonVuen: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella04:38
Jaxoninterloper: so, what is the problem with performance?04:38
Vuenmmm, thanks04:38
nomasteryodaAven_, try alsamixer in the console04:38
jbmigel_interloper 60fps is very good rate, much faster than your eye can see... who cares??04:38
bruenigrbil, not often does it happen but sometimes04:38
Samus_Aranit is screwing up almost all programs I am running04:38
nomasteryodause cursor keys to navigate and Esc when done04:38
MorningWooddo intel graphics drivers come installed by default on ubuntu?04:38
ksawow that synaptic thing was ez04:38
Aven_nomasteryoda: ah, then what? :P04:38
ksathak u all04:38
bruenigI generally just go with gksudo and it has never happened to me but I've read the horror stories04:38
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Vuenalso, what torrent software do you suggest for kubuntu? i like something with loads of features; i'm switching from azureus04:39
Vuenshould i use ktorrent?04:39
nomasteryodaAven_, look for  an MM04:39
Aven_nomasteryoda: I can increase volumes, yeah04:39
interloperi used to run this game with the same fps with a ti4400 and 1.7ghz machine04:39
nomasteryodaok04:39
JaxonVuen: I'd reccommend ktorrent.04:39
brainoya, i forgot. I use kde, so its kdesu for me04:39
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Aven_MM as in Master M?04:39
nomasteryodaMM means muted04:39
VuenJaxon: mmm, thanks04:39
nomasteryodaso pressing M would unmute04:39
bruenigVuen, utorrent through wine is also fun if you don't mind the extra work to get it running04:39
mneptonVuen: try bittornado-gui, too. or, if you have access to a LAMP installation, Torrentflux.04:39
interloperi've seen people get well over a hundred jbmigel_04:39
Vuenjrib, mnepton, i suppose i should have asked is there a qt gnutella client?04:40
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Vuenbecause i use kde04:40
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interloperplus when i drag the the terminal window its kinda choppy jbmigel_04:40
theBishopndiswrapper stopped working in Edgy...04:40
jribVuen: well you can still use gtk apps, I don't know of any qt ones04:40
jbmigel_interloper im sure it's possible, but with different driver versions, different cedega, different libc, also you have smp kernel, lots different... be happy it is playable04:40
nomasteryodainterloper, you might need to check the settings in xorg.conf for glx, etc..04:40
nomasteryodajust my guess04:40
dwangotheBishop, Just installed Edgy last night and it works.04:40
MorningWoodwould intel graphics drivers come installed by default on ubuntu?04:40
Jaxoninterloper: you can't see any difference over 60 fps, I'd try running something a bit more hardware intensive and seeing if you don't get max FPS from that as well.04:41
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theBishopdwango, what card you have?04:41
nomasteryodaand your hard drive optimization with hdparm04:41
dwangoBroadcom04:41
bruenigMorningWood, likely04:41
JaxonMorningWood: what problems are you having?04:41
theBishopdwango, specifically04:41
krazykitbruenig: er, utorrent through wine requires no extra work.04:41
Aven_nomasteryoda: still doesn't work :\04:41
Aven_nomasteryoda: none are mute04:41
nomasteryodaAven_, ok04:41
interloperguys when i go into free for all map im down to 30fps04:41
Vuenjrib: mmm, that sucks. oh well. i'm trying to switch over to entirely qt apps (except for firefox). i can't stand most gtk widgets, like the godawful file picker dialog04:41
dwangobcm431804:41
bruenigkrazykit, it requires more than, apt-get install (bittorrent client)04:41
MorningWoodhaving problems with my function key and the brightness monitor that is on gateway laptops04:41
jribVuen: #kubuntu might have some recommendations for you04:41
nomasteryodaAven_, open the audio tray tool properties04:42
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Aven_nomasteryoda: how?04:42
theBishopdwango, hmm, what version of ndiswrapper do you have and what commands did you use?04:42
Aven_nomasteryoda: as in, for the media player?04:42
nomasteryodaAven_,  you using ubuntu?04:42
MorningWoodit shows the brightness level in a little window, but is all distorted in ubuntu04:42
Aven_yeah04:42
jribVuen: and I agree with you about the file picker04:42
nomasteryodak04:42
JaxonMorningWood: laptops, you are on your own, not under my area of expertise :\04:42
clearzen!backup04:42
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi04:42
nomasteryodaright-click the tool04:42
nomasteryodaer, speaker04:42
nomasteryodaicon04:42
MorningWoodwondering if it might be because of the graphics driver04:42
interloperand i don't even have anything antialliasing enabled either. 1024x768 is what im running at04:42
MorningWoodjaxon: thanks anyway04:42
Aven_mkay, one sec04:42
dwangotheBishop, I've got both 1.1 and 1.8 installed04:43
Jaxoninterloper: then that sounds like a cedega configuration issue.04:43
Aven_ohh, fixed04:43
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nomasteryodaok04:43
nomasteryodacool04:43
Aven_it was mute04:43
nomasteryodalol04:43
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dwangopackage versions 1.1-5 and 1.18-1ubuntu204:43
jbmigel_MorningWood I would think that your frequency settings in xorg arnt optimal for the overlay... have you checked the factory specs against your settings04:43
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nomasteryodasee, simple things sometimes04:43
nomasteryoda=D04:43
gop_fannale hi04:43
gop_KNow I got error 504:43
interloperim downloading the patch for q4 1.3 as we speak and see if running a native game will make any difference.04:43
gop_grub error 504:43
interloperif so then it is prolly cedega04:43
Vuenjrib: yeah, i had found a fix that makes firefox use the qt file picker, which worked wonderfully for a while, but for some reason it switched back :(04:43
MorningWoodjgmiglet, no I haven't04:43
MorningWoodhow would I go about doing that?04:43
dwangotheBishop, what error/problem are you getting?04:44
interloperbut when i drag the console window it should not be choppy anyway.04:44
nomasteryodainterloper, there might be some hack to the cedega conf files to make it better04:44
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nomasteryodatrue04:44
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nomasteryodainterloper, what does top show?04:44
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nomasteryodaas the most used process?04:44
theBishopdwango, it looks like its working, but then in dmesg, it says "loadndiswrapper failed"04:44
_rodneyomw sudo is shite... i changed the time into the past... now im totally locked out of my system :(04:44
Aven_nomasteryoda: nevermind, still didn't work :P04:44
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Aven_it was mute, i unmuted it but still..04:44
nomasteryodaAven_, k04:44
interlopernomasteryoda im running very low on mem and cpu usage04:44
jbmigel_MorningWood goto gateway and find out the refresh rate on your display...04:45
nomasteryodaAven_,  so click the edit option04:45
interloper1% and 6% on mem04:45
jrib_rodney: try 'sudo -K'04:45
jbmigel_MorningWood then edit your xorg.conf file to match04:45
Aven_alright, then?04:45
nomasteryodaAven_, er, the File option04:45
nomasteryodasorry04:45
_rodneyjrib: i cant run sudo due to this prob... hence that will not work..... as i said sudo stinks...this is a total joke....04:45
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nomasteryodaChange device04:45
nomasteryodayou have more than one audio card?04:46
Aven_ok, then?04:46
MorningWoodjbmigel_ under the section device portion?04:46
nomasteryodaor one on board, one pci?04:46
interlopernomasteryoda thats mostly xorg anything else is sub 1%04:46
jrib_rodney: -K does not require a password entry so maybe it will work?04:46
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Aven_well, im using the one in front of my PC04:46
dwangotheBishop, I was getting an Illegal Argument error on modprobe ndiswrapper for a while04:46
Aven_for headphones04:46
palomerwhat's the easiest way to input korean on ubuntu?04:46
dwangobut got passed that somehow04:46
Aven_it's in front of the CPU04:46
nomasteryodaAven_, ok04:46
_rodneysudo -K04:46
_rodneysudo: timestamp too far in the future:04:46
akant2can anyone recommend an easy/secure hd crypto package for ubuntu04:46
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jbmigel_MorningWood it is in the monitor section, let me find you an example04:46
akant2for a laptop?04:46
nomasteryodaand that is not muted Aven_ ?04:46
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Aven_nope, not04:46
_rodneytheres no way out is there ..... geez what idiots.....04:47
nomasteryodaakant2, easy not, secure yes... truecrypt... but is command line04:47
nomasteryodaonly04:47
K1765Sup04:47
dwangodoes anyone use a Xinerama on a laptop with an Intel graphics card (i810 driver)04:47
akant2well that is fine, just not sure where to start04:47
Aven_ahhh04:47
Aven_fixed!04:47
nomasteryodalol04:47
nuHow do i identify myself in IRC?04:47
akant2LUKS ?04:47
Aven_it was unmuted, just didn't know that04:47
Aven_w00t04:47
nomasteryodaxx fingers idoe04:47
james296ok, I installed a third party Edgy theme on here, but programs like Synaptic is ugly and looks sorta like Windows 95, how do I fix this?04:47
Aven_thanks04:47
nomasteryodado04:47
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Jaxon_rodney: you could try waiting until the time stamp wasn't too far in the future?04:47
nomasteryodanp04:47
braskois there a way to downgrade the version of xfce in xubuntu?04:47
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rbildwango, I do, but I don't have that machine handy. what's the prob?04:48
_rodneyJaxon: thats ridiculous but of course its not a matter of trying im forced to wait... however long it is...04:48
theBishopdwango, ok, well i'm completely uninstalling ndiswrapper, and trying it with 1.804:48
nuHow do i identify myself in IRC?04:48
james296well?04:48
bruenignu, I believe it is, /msg Nickserv password>04:48
nubruenig: what if i forgot my pw?04:48
_rodneyor reboot in runlevel 1....04:48
braskois there a way to downgrade the version of xfce with xubuntu?04:48
bruenignu, then you can't indentify yourself04:48
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jrib_rodney: can you use the date/time applet in gnome to change the time?  (maybe gksudo uses a different timestamp)04:48
nomasteryodanu, you'll need a freenode admin to set you up04:48
bimberi/msg nickserv identify <password>04:48
dwangorbil: I'm trying to get the external monitor to be the 1st screen, and the Laptop LCD to be the 2nd04:48
james296can someone PLZ answer me?04:48
Jaxon_rodney: how far back did you set your ctime?04:48
dwangoand it's not going so well04:48
_rodney1hr04:49
bimberibrasko: uninstall xfce, change repositories, update, reinstall xfce04:49
nunomasteryoda: where do i contact one?04:49
bruenigbimberi is right. Xchat does it automatically so I forgot the syntax04:49
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nomasteryodaon #freenode i would suspect04:49
rbildwango, I do just the opposite,  can u use rightof instead of leftof  for example?04:49
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_rodneyjames296: whats up ?04:49
braskobimberi: ok04:49
nualright04:49
nuthanks all04:50
braskoI think it stinks that xubuntu uses a BETA VERSION of xfce04:50
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nomasteryodarbil, you can do that... i used to do that on mandrake and then on suse long ago... aka 200104:50
bruenigbrasko, what don't you get about edgy04:50
nikinsome things got better... i ame still searching for some stuff04:50
braskoand I'm pretty upset I bothered to install xubuntu at all now04:50
bimberibrasko: edgy?04:50
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nikina commander like samba share browser04:50
james296how can I prevent applications such as Synaptic from looking ugly when Im using a third party Edgy theme???04:50
darktomadid anyone know how to compile FreeRA on Ubuntu?04:50
jbmigel_MorningWood put HorizSync   30-82 and VertRefresh 50-85 in your monitor section... substitute real numbers04:50
dwangorbil: yeah I can.. but when I'm docked I like to use the large display as my primary (e.g. with my panels, application menus), and obviously when i'm undocked the internal display should be primary04:50
nikinany ideas?04:50
_rodneyjames296: no idea.. :(04:50
james296I know theres a way but I dunno04:50
dwangootherwise when I undock the panel positions will be on the wrong display04:50
james296can someone plz help me out here???04:51
james296I cant stand this :-(04:51
_rodneylol its not good i know :(04:51
bruenigjames296, it looks ugly because it is being run as root, not that that helps you any. My solution, don't run synaptic04:51
nujames296:  you cant04:51
braskobimberi: you want me to install even NEWER software?04:51
nujames296: well id ont think you can04:51
nikinbtw... is there any significant reason to move to edgy?04:51
braskobimberi: I have 6.06 installed, and it has a buggy xfce beta version04:51
nujames296: when you use synaptic, it uses the root's theme. not your own04:51
jbmigel_nikin no04:51
james296but how come it doesnt do that with the DEFAULT theme then?04:51
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rbildwango, understand. not sure how one handles that. short of having 2 xorg.conf and do renaming to change things after booting in04:51
nujames296: because ROOT also has that default theme04:52
_rodneynikin: so you can do the beta testing... soon they can make loadsa cash.. .keep upgrading ;)04:52
james296grrrrrrrrrrr04:52
jbmigel_james296 grow up man it is just eye candy04:52
james296so what I do is install the theme under root?04:52
dwangorbil: well the conf management is something else altogether.  I'm just trying to get it to work in that layout first =)04:52
nujames296: the only thing i can think of, is installing your theme on the root themes folder, and if that doent work, i dont know04:52
james296yes and I LOVE eye candy04:52
rbildwango, would be nice to check for whether connected and then use appropriate xorg.conf ... maybe there's a script somewhere that will do that?04:52
dwangoyeah i dunno04:52
rbildwango, then it's more than just leftof or rightof, but what screen comes first04:53
bruenigjames296, i think they make it so different so that people realize that it is something that affects there system and all of that garbage about being careful and what not.04:53
dwangoif only Xorg supported dynamic serverlayout selection :-/04:53
braskowell, how do I upgarde to edgy?>04:53
Vaske_CarMy internet is slow, it need 5-7 seconds to open web page. Can anybody help with this problem? I use cable internet that is working fine on the same PC with Windows partition.04:53
rbildwango, agreed04:53
braskoand will it destroy my computer?04:53
nikinjames296: imho use Dapper.. why shouldn you... longterm support is allway a good stuff... just i hope they will port that new init replacer  stuff to Dapper as soon as it is stable04:53
braskowhat version of xfce does edgy have?04:53
jribubotu: tell Vaske_Car about ipv604:53
crimsunbrasko: post-4.4 RC104:53
bruenigbrasko, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"04:53
nikinjames: get a MAC :P04:53
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nikinor get Vista :P04:54
braskocrimsun: nice, that might help04:54
brainojames left :o04:54
nuoh noes04:54
rbildwango, I've seen example xorg.conf's with more than one severlayout, but what software would select which to use, I have never found04:54
brainoXGL > vista04:54
_rodneynikin: wrong theres no long term support as soon as they move most people along... your on yer own... which is best coz they only using you to make cash in the long term..its just wasting your resourcces04:54
braskowhat's gksudo?04:54
dwangorbil: you can pass a parameter to X when starting it manually04:54
braskoI'm on the command line04:54
dwangobut using kdm/gdm, I don't know04:54
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jbmigel_rbil dwango i think you can specify what server layout to use when starting X from command line... startX layout=b kinda thing04:55
brueniggksudo is sudo for graphical apps04:55
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rbildwango, yes that might do it... pass xinerama only if connected, don't load it in xorg.conf? maybe?04:55
braskook, I'll log in remoatly04:55
dwangoi did find something that could set the server layout at boo04:55
dwangot04:55
nikin_rodney: Dapper has NO longterm support???????04:55
_rodneyyour see....04:55
rbiljbmigel_, wow, that would be nice, had no idea04:55
dwangobut usually suspend and don't reboot much04:55
_rodneyas soon as edgy is majorly used... its gonna be forgotten...and so it continues....04:55
holycowdapper has 7 year support04:56
brainoincorrect rodney04:56
_rodneywell its not been out that long ?04:56
iamtheobjectDoes anyone use the Logitech MX600 laser mouse that could assist me with the button placement in my xorg.conf file?04:56
_rodneyok well maybe this one they are trying to support for alittle while.. .to stop doing peoples head in04:56
holycow_rodney, i would strongly recommend googling  before speaking04:56
holycowforget thinking, its not working for ya04:56
bruenigdapper is supported for three years04:56
holycow7 years04:56
_rodneyfair play.. im sorry... but we will see ;)04:56
rbiliamtheobject, have mx500, close enuf? :-)04:57
bruenigso it has 2 years and 8 months left04:57
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_rodneythey prolly invested alittle in that so its in there interest04:57
iamtheobjectit might be04:57
jbmigel_3 years? that doesnt sound like long term04:57
nikinbruenig: server has more not?04:57
bruenigjbmigel_, well larger than the normal 18 months04:57
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bruenignikin, server five years says ubuntu.com04:58
bimberiyep, 3 years desktop, 5 years server04:58
_rodneycash cash cash.... :/ and they made out there were soo different..... typical.....04:58
bruenigthat will be odd thinking that people will be using dapper when 11.04 is out04:59
holycowthere you go04:59
Hooveyywhats the banshee package called?04:59
bimberibanshee04:59
nikin_rodney: what cash?04:59
Hooveyyapt-get install banshee says package not found04:59
braskothanks all04:59
_rodneyer isnt there support line costly or something ?04:59
jbmigel_how do they tell the difference between server/desktop? like if i install apache on my desktop i get security updates for firefox?04:59
braskohope edgy works04:59
_rodneyeither way... heh04:59
bimberi!info banshee04:59
ubotubanshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB04:59
nikini didnt pay for my ubuntu... noone did AFAIK04:59
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bruenigbashee requires universe repo Hooveyy, have you enalbed it?04:59
holycowjbmigel_, there is no real difference04:59
HooveyyNo,04:59
interloperwell.. can someone maybe email me their xorg.conf file with a geforce 6600gt or alike card?05:00
holycowjbmigel_, its just one group of packages is called server another workstation05:00
bimberiHooveyy: install it via Applications -> Add/Remove...05:00
holycowapache is typically used on severs thus it is grouped there05:00
JaxonHas anyone else had problems getting SpamAssassin working with Postfix?  I've followed a couple different Howtos, but in the end, I'm not getting any headers added to incoming mail.05:00
Hooveyyah, k05:00
bruenigHooveyy, easy to follow guide if you don't know how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309605:00
Vaske_Carhow do i check if I am running Dapper or???05:00
Clinton__are there any repositories that contain Eclipse 3.2 ?05:00
bimberi(which enables the repos for you)05:00
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holycowdoesn't matter what you install its going to be updated provided its in the core group of supported packaqges05:00
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skelterso, I did a "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and now when I try to boot X can't start properly...can anyone help me get things back to normal?05:01
ice63holycow, hello05:01
jbmigel_holycow oh so your saying the server applications will receive 5 years support, the desktop applications 3... that makes sense05:01
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nikinskelter : sudo nvidia-glx-config disable   ... maybe05:01
holycowjbmigel_, correct05:01
holycowhello ice6305:01
MorningWoodjbmigel, I found my refresh rate which is a max of 60hz but I have no idea where to find the horizontalsync and vertical refresh05:02
skelterheh. good idea :s05:02
holycowMorningWood, google th emodel an dmake of your moni05:02
Clinton__are there any repositories that contain Eclipse 3.2 ?05:02
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holycowalso where is that link05:02
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jbmigel_MorningWood tell me again what model of gateway you have?05:02
bruenigClinton__, don't think so, certainly not any official ones05:02
MorningWoodm36005:02
holycowsomeone wrote a freebie app for modifying xorg.conf05:02
bimberiClinton__: not ubuntu ones05:02
MorningWoodhttp://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/M360/3401701sp17.shtml05:02
Clinton__bruenig: I'm looking for unofficial too...05:02
jbmigel_MorningWood thx for link :)05:03
bruenigClinton__, well that looks like a job for google05:03
holycow!xorgedit05:03
MorningWoodthank you05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
Clinton__bruenig: already been trying, haven't found anything yet05:03
Clinton__bruenig: which is why I'm here asking :)05:03
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holycowhttp://www.cyskat.de/dee/progxorg.htm05:03
nikinis there any commander style app for accesing SAMBA shares?05:04
holycowi don't know if that is stable at all so please backup your xorg.conf file05:04
holycowbut hopefully that will make it into gnome or something05:04
Keyseir"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." I get this whenever I try to apt-get or use synaptic05:04
nikinbesides SMBC wich has a lot of problems05:04
Hooveyywoot, banshee is l33t05:04
KeyseirWhen I run dpkg --configure -a it attempts to reinstall the program vmware and seems to get stuck05:04
holycowand integrate with a hardware list so you can select your monitor model an dmake05:04
KeyseirShould I pastebin this, or does anyone have an idea?05:05
bruenigClinton__, looks like a source compilation05:05
Clinton__bruenig: what are you nuts?  this isn't #gentoo :)05:05
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bruenigClinton__, 108 MB looks like fun05:05
Clinton__I have the binary installed into my ~, but I was hoping for a true repository, oh well05:06
jbmigel_MorningWood hmm ya it doesnt look like they tell you. can you make sure your set to 60hz in System>preferences>screen res05:06
SuperMiguelwhat is an blog?05:06
MorningWoodjbmigel, yes I am05:06
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nikinClinton__ Compiling isnt that evil, or mybe is... but it is better than not having something :P05:07
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Clinton__nikin: Compiling is OK when you absolutely must.05:07
Clinton__nikin: especially on a laptop that gets hot enough without compiling05:07
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nikinClinton__ i ame working on a laptop, but i have no heat problems05:08
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ice63what is the best why to get started setting up a firewall on ubuntu ?05:08
JaxonSo I guess I'm the only person having issues with SpamAssassin?05:08
JoetheoddClinton__: They just need to set their laptop on a desk when they're comping, or their girlfriend will get mad when they can't reproduce.05:08
brainoice63: try firestarter05:08
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Vaske_Carnikin, check out http://krusader.sourceforge.net/05:08
vitriolHEY I USED TO HAVE KDE SET UP TO WHERE CTRL + TAB WOULD SWITCH VIRTUAL DESKTOPS...05:09
vitriolANYBODY KNOW HOW I CAN GET THAT BACK?05:09
Vaske_Carhow to check Ubuntu version?05:09
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Joetheoddvitriol: Please don't talk in all caps.05:09
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defryskWhat noise05:09
Clinton__nikin: I tried Gentoo for awhile, but went to Ubuntu (former hardcore Debian user)... I didn't like feeling my laptop get so hot, even on my desk05:09
vitriolJoetheodd: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TODAY IS, DO YOU?05:09
vitriolhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/10/22/happy-international-caps-lock-day/05:09
Madpilotvitriol, enough shouting05:09
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upgrdmanim trying to install some firmware for my pcHDTV card. it says to put the files in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/, but /usr/lib/hotplug does not exist... ?05:10
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Clinton__isn't the bot supposed to kick caps mongrols?05:10
JoetheoddVITROL, THAT'S GOTTA BE TO STUPIDEST RULE EVER, LOL05:10
Joetheoddok, done.05:10
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vitriolok, fair enough05:10
vitriolmaybe i should be asking in #kubuntu ....05:10
ice63braino, how can a firewall protect the same computter it's on?05:10
defryskyes05:10
mzuverinkAre we using ubuntu+1 for edgy questions?05:10
defryskyes05:11
Hooveyyhow would I install konquerer ?05:11
defryskkonqueror05:11
brainoare you talking about using your comp as a firewall?05:11
nikinClinton__: i never used #Gentoo just some Debian based distros, but the  first thing i allways did is to configure my CPU-s speed stepping, and if doing hard work.. disabling the heighest speed :D05:11
Hooveyyyeah, whatever05:11
Hooveyywait, nevermind05:11
skelterso I hit a "sudu nvidia-glx-config enable" and when I boot, x doesn't start up. I tried "sudo nvidia-glx-config disable", but no change...anyone know how I can get things back to normal?05:11
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Clinton__nikin: yea the speed stepping can be nice, but I like having the full potential of my CPU at all times05:12
defryskskelter run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:12
skelterthanks, i'll try that05:12
nikinClinton__ i like having control over it, coz rendering is evil... :D05:12
Clinton__nikin: now if I could enable it only when, say X has been idle for 30 minutes and then disable when X becomes unidle, then I'd be more happy05:12
nikinmore evil than compiling :D05:12
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ice63useing a computer for a firewall ....that one :)05:13
RedEyessHello05:13
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RedEyessHow do I change the resolution of the GDM screen?05:13
nikinClinton__ that isnt such hard :D05:13
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surgyhi05:13
Clinton__nikin: really?  lst time I tried, nobody knew05:13
Clinton__nikin: (about a year ago)05:13
nikinnever tried it... but some scripting will do the trick05:13
brainoice63: firewall won't help you (I don't think it lets you do forwarding), lemme dig up a link05:13
brainoi mean firestarter05:13
brainoheh05:13
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ice63i have never used firestarter for a firewall05:14
RedEyessHow do I change the resolution of the GDM screen?05:14
surgycan someone tell me how i can access my  uuntu partition  from  winxp?05:14
idelhi, I have problems with firefox, and others apps, it crashes all the time, I am using ubuntu edgy, I wonder if someone else has had this problems?05:14
nikinClinton__ so what you want is that wen x becomes inactive then speed should go down, and when X becomes active again speed goes MAX? did i understand right05:14
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nikin?05:14
flClinton__: why dont you use the ondemand governor? Or any of the daemons like powernowd? They dynamically switch the frequency according to the load05:14
Flannelidel: ask in #ubuntu+1, that's the edgy channel05:15
Clinton__nikin: exactly05:15
JaxonRedEyess: try "CTRL+ALT+NumPlus" and "CTRL+ALT+NumMinus"05:15
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Clinton__fl: on demand doesn't kick in fast enough for me, I like to have full CPU power when I'm using my laptop05:15
idelthanks Flannel05:15
holycowthey also let you set it on 100% cpu or various workload levels via neato applet05:15
surgyanyone?05:15
jbmigel_Clinton__ it take like 2ms to kick up i dont think you can tell difference05:15
nikinClinton__ i gonna take a look05:16
Jaxonsurgy: I don't believe there has been anything decent written to read ext3 from Windows.05:16
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flClinton__: what's the delay? A few ms imho05:16
surgyjaxon: nothing?05:16
BelialMkIIsurgy, there is something to read ext3, but cant write to it05:16
Clinton__fl: enough that I can feel the diff05:16
brainoice63: the only thing I can find right now is how to do it manually with iptables. Here is a guide to start you off http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/IptablesFirewall05:17
nikini think the powernowd's agressive setting will do for Clinton__05:17
surgybelialmkII: link?05:17
BelialMkIIuhh actually, think i found one that claims to do both, never tried it05:17
defryskgoogle05:17
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Jaxonsurgy: I use a fat32 partition to copy stuff from Ubuntu to Windows.05:17
BelialMkIIhttp://www.fs-driver.org/download.html05:17
brainoice63: you will need to go down to where it discusses forwarding05:17
flWrong, now one can write to ext3 9or ext2 at least from windows)05:17
jbmigel_Clinton__ the only think you could possibly notice is the 2 hour drop in battery life your way05:17
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nikinClinton__ read  man powernowd   ... maybe thats good enough for you.... see the agressive setting05:18
Clinton__jbmigel_: my battery is 4 years old, its hosed anyways05:18
surgyjaxon: care to go  into more   detail?05:18
Clinton__nikin: I've tried powernowd, didn't like it05:18
Clinton__trust me when I say I can tell the diff05:18
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nikinClinton__ :D okok05:18
abbi2bis compiz available for ubuntu?05:19
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Clinton__abbi2b: yes05:19
Jaxonsurgy: On one of my drives is a 10gb fat32 partition, which both winxp and any linux kernel have r/w support05:19
Peloevening folks05:19
Flannelabbi2b: yes.  #ubuntu-xgl has information05:19
Pelois there anyway to restore a deleted file in ubuntu ?  it wasn'T deleted using the usual method05:20
abbi2bthanks Flannel :)05:20
jbmigel_Pelo if you deleted it from gnome you can still find it in wastebasket05:20
Clinton__Pelo: whats the usual method?05:20
jbmigel_Pelo if you were at command line then the file is gone05:20
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Pelothe usual method would be to the waste basket, this was deleted from a win app running in wine05:21
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Clinton__Pelo: did you look in the trashbasket?05:21
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PeloClinton__  it's not in the trashcan05:21
nkassiPelo: in that case  it was delete completly05:21
SpaceFroghey guys. How do i change the default login message that appears when a user logs into Ubuntu via the shell?05:21
Peloany recovery progs for ext3 drives ?05:22
bimberiSpaceFrog: /etc/motd05:22
jbmigel_Pelo if it was really really important you could spend a day looking through your drives raw data and find it again05:22
SpaceFrogthanks bimberi05:22
Clinton__Pelo: OK, you delted it with a Windows app using  Wine?  Did you try to see if Wine installed a trash can directory ?05:22
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bimberiSpaceFrog: np :)05:22
maxflaxI must say.. compiling the alsa-drivers didnt go as planned05:22
flsurgy: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ or http://www.fs-driver.org/05:22
PeloClinton__  looking for that right now05:22
nautWhat package do I need to install to get pdflatex?05:22
idelwhich gnome version has ubuntu dapper?05:22
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poningru2.14 iirc05:23
maxflaxLooks like a total reinstall of the OS.. :(05:23
poningrumaxflax: whats wrong?05:23
Pelowho suggested the raw data thing ? how would I go about doing that ?05:23
Clinton__Pelo: any luck?05:23
AdamKilihey is Ubuntu the most popular linux distro? if not, which is? Fedora?05:23
_ian_what ius skypes package name if i were to apt get05:23
PeloClinton__  wine doesn'T seem to make it's own trashcan05:23
defryskskype05:23
dfcarneyPelo: how much do you know about filesystems, inodes, etc ?05:24
Clinton__Pelo: you might be screwed05:24
Pelodfcarney   nada05:24
jbmigel_Pelo im looking now for a recovery tool05:24
Clinton__dfcarney: hope you can help him from here05:24
dfcarneyPelo: ouch05:24
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Pelodfcarney  donT' worry about it ,  I just have to dl that torrent again05:24
bimberi!skype | _ian_05:24
ubotu_ian_: skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:24
dfcarneyClinton__: not really.  i've manually recovered corrupt Ext3 and ReiserFS systems, but it takes forever05:24
HooveyyAdam: I think ubuntu is the most popular, I believe Red Hat, Fedora, and Mandriva are popular too.05:24
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jbmigel_Pelo omg it is a torrent... dood your on your own05:25
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Clinton__dfcarney: corrupt reiserfs?  really!05:25
HooveyyDebian as well, especially, (ubuntu is based off of it)05:25
Pelojust a bit annoying I apparwently downloaded the same thing twice and then went and deleted the wront one05:25
Frederickdoes anyone here installed nessus?05:25
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dfcarneypelo: oh man, it'll take you far less time to just download it again05:25
nikinClinton__ : powernowd -p 10 -l 5 -u 10 -m 1      ....is your setting :P05:25
JaxonPelo: unless you are using a journalling filesystem and the changes haven't been written to disk, then you are out of luck.05:25
SpaceFrogCan someone recommend  an MP3 player that's compatible with Linux?05:25
dfcarneyClinton__: yeah, just some garbled bits, but it really screwed things up05:25
nkassiSF:XMMS05:25
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maxflaxponinguru, well.. it won\t boot.. stops and just throws out errors about ATA1 or something and once i got past it.. it went as far as I got some graphics but the introsound was looping on the first 1 sek.. of the sound. and it stalled.. could go out to terminal via.. ctrl alt f205:25
dfcarneyClinton__: i didn't do it all myself, however -- there were a bunch of us working on it05:25
nkassiSpaceFrog: look at the restrictedformat page in the wiki.ubuntu.com05:26
Clinton__dfcarney: I'm surprised to here of a non-hardware related reiserfs corruption05:26
AdamKiliwhich linux distro is most popular?05:26
dfcarneyClinton__: well, we found a bug in SuSE's kernel driver for it.05:26
jbmigel_Pelo http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm05:26
dfcarneyClinton__: (and we submitted the patch upstream)05:26
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PeloJaxon  dfcarney  Clinton__  , I'll just dl it again , no trouble, it's just dam annoing to dl a two parter and then realise part 2 doen't have sound,  then notice you downloaded to different version and you could have tried the other one but you deleted it thinking it was the bad one05:26
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MadpilotAdamKili, you're in #ubuntu, guess which distro we're biased toward?05:26
SpaceFrognkassi: I was actually referring to mp3 devices that dont come with proprietary software.. How well do IPods work with linux?05:27
Pelothanks jbmigel_05:27
Clinton__Pelo: heh, good luck!  what were you dl anyways?05:27
totall_6_7AdamKili: you are asking that question in the ubuntu room???05:27
mzuverinkSpaceFrog, My ipod works just fine05:27
PeloClinton__  torchwood05:27
Clinton__dfcarney: glad to hear you got it fixed, hopefully the devs take the patch05:27
brainoAdamKili: http://distrowatch.com/ has some statistics05:27
Clinton__Pelo: Doctor Who right?05:27
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tnnccan someone tell me what commands i need to run to have another video to be seen05:27
AdamKiliwhere should i ask it? is there an unbiased chat room somewhere?05:27
PeloClinton__  drwho spin off,  first two eps tonight05:27
dfcarneyClinton__: yeah, though it seems that SuSE is planning to switch away from ReiserFS now...and go back to EXT05:27
nikinAdamKili: Ubuntu :D but the Q is in what field of operation?05:27
nkassiSpaceFrog: There are multiple software that support Ipods. Just pluging it in will load one05:27
Clinton__Pelo: yup, I've seen it.. excellent show05:28
Clinton__Pelo: Friday nights show (in the US anyhow) was excellent as well, you'll enjoy it05:28
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AdamKilipersonal, normal use05:28
Pelodon't spoil it05:28
JaxonSpaceFrog: my iPod works fantastic.05:28
Clinton__Pelo: I won't05:28
nkassiSpaceFrog: If not, there is gtkpod, pytunes ...05:28
mike_eybhello, i am in dire need of a linux guru05:28
SpaceFrogah, thanks for the help. hehe, I'm trying to decide what mp3 player i should get my girlfriend for christmas05:29
ideland, if dapper is the LTS version, it means that it uses old packages respect to edgy?05:29
nikinAdamKili: the use Ubuntu: good stuff, stable stuff, and its compatible with everithing ... behalv a two-handed sword.... but maybe supports that to :D05:29
nkassiSpaceFrog: Most other MP3 players can be browsed as usbdisk devices. They will create a icon on the desktop.05:29
defryskmp3player ?05:29
defryskget a g305:29
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Clinton__Pelo: btw, I HIGHLY recommend Tivo, or MythTV, or something equivalent05:29
mike_eybCan anyoen tell me how to enable dual monitor in Ubuntu05:29
jbmigel_nkassi your gf runs ubuntu?05:30
PeloClinton__  why ?05:30
Flannel!tell mike_eyb about xinerama05:30
SpaceFrogjbmigel: mine does.05:30
Clinton__Pelo: they record the shows for you...hell I forget they're on half the time, then I go check it out and I say "oh yea!" and sit down for a couple hours of good TV, and skipping commercials :)05:30
mike_eybwhat is xinerama?05:30
nkassijbmigel: Mine too, she loves gnome majjongh ;-)05:30
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Flannelmike_eyb: check your query from ubotu, it has a link05:31
PeloClinton__   that's what RSS downloaders are for05:31
tnncadded new video card can ssh into box but X wont come up what do i need to run05:31
lostboyzhow do i reconfigure the xorg file i always forget the right command05:31
Clinton__Pelo: OK, you're teaching me something, where is this RSS feed?05:31
mike_eybI'm a complete newb, never heard about ubuntu unyil 45 min ago05:31
Clinton__lostboyz: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
MadpilotFlannel, you know about ubotu's new | command? Less confusing than PMs sometimes05:31
maxflaxponingru, well.. it won\t boot.. stops and just throws out errors about ATA1 or something and once i got past it.. it went as far as I got some graphics but the introsound was looping on the first 1 sek.. of the sound. and it stalled.. could go out to terminal via.. ctrl alt f205:31
lostboyzand is there anyone else here that has a problem with a ati radeon xpress card with the fglrx driver?05:31
Madpilot!yourself | Flannel05:31
ubotuFlannel: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:31
jbmigel_mike_eyb welcome to linux!05:32
lostboyzwhen i try to logout i only get a black screen05:32
mike_eybthank you very much05:32
nikinstill looking for a commander like samba browser, that does not depend on KDE or Gnome... the best would be console :D .... mc and smbc are not good coz they have some serius problems05:32
lostboyzand cannot shut down correctly05:32
FlannelMadpilot: Ah, they added it?  How handy.  Still... spammy though.  Too bad there's no happy medium.05:32
mike_eybi used to use pirc back on window and get here has been the only thing i could do05:32
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nkassimike_eyb: i suggest searching wiki.ubuntu.com for help.05:32
cafuegoSorry, which way to the asylum?05:32
mike_eybi was on some forrum but they were talking something about xconf.org?05:32
PeloClinton__  join me in #pelo since this is off topic05:32
maxflax4th reinstall of the os on this comp... iits starting to getting tiresom. darn alsa05:33
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nkassimike_eyb: they probably have a page on dual monitors05:33
Madpilotcafuego, isn't that #ubuntu-offtopic? ;)05:33
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lostboyzmaxflax what are you trying to do?05:33
mike_eybright now i have the two monitor working but one is a clone of the other05:33
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KevinKidHi05:33
nkassimike_eyb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo05:33
nkassimike_eyb: that should help.05:34
dfcarneymike_eyb: if "dual monitors" doesn't work for a search, try "dual head"05:34
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maxflaxlostboyz, getting it up running again.. did a compilation and install of the latest alsa drivers. 1.0.1305:34
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mike_eybthe major question i have right now: can i right click or go to some setting to enable or do i have to do something with code?05:34
lostboyzyou may have to use a driver that is older05:34
lostboyzsometimes new drivers have bugs in them05:34
nikini think i go and sleep a bit.. its 5:34 AM here :P cul8r05:35
lostboyzthat do not always work with older computers maxflax05:35
KevinKidI recently downloaded Ubuntu Linux Dapper Drake and tried to install it on a PC with 256 of RAM and since the only way I could devise for installing was running the LIVE CD, the machine would halt and I couldn't install it. Is there any way I can install Ubuntu without having to run the Live CD?05:35
maxflaxlostboyz, well its a brand new computer.. only 2 weeks old..05:35
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FlannelKevinKid: the alternate CD05:35
KevinKidWhere do I get it?05:36
jbmigel_mike_eyb it is kinda hard to setup for your first day... you need to make sure your driver works... then you need to set up xinerama05:36
nikinubuntu.com :D05:36
FlannelKevinKid: same place, ubuntu.com/download05:36
KevinKidwhat's the name of the iso?05:36
maxflaxlostboyz, running on a nforce 430 chipset.. with onboard gfx and all that I can need..05:36
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FlannelKevinKid: You'll see it, it'sthe "alternate" isntead of the "desktop"05:36
nikina05:37
mike_eybi eventually want to set up my comp as an FTP server.... i suspect that is going to be more difficult right?05:37
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nkassimike_eyb: if there is, it would be under system->preferences or system->administration05:37
KevinKidOk, so I got to ubuntu.com and then where do I click?05:37
lostboyzmaxflax ok sounds good i am not able to help i don't think i was just telling you my experience05:37
maxflaxlostboyz, wanted my sound working with spdif and crimsun said that the problem I had was solved in the 1.0.13 version of Alsa drivers05:37
Flannelmike_eyb: nope.  There are howtos on that as well05:37
nkassimike_eyb: the odds are bad for a click button sorry.05:37
mike_eybhmmm05:37
FlannelKevinKid: ubuntu.com/download choose a mirror, then grab the alternate ISO for your arch05:37
dfcarneymike_eyb: in fact, it's pretty easy...providing your ISP doesn't block the ports, you've got the right security/firewall, etc.05:37
mike_eyblinux might prove to be difficult05:37
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KevinKidok thank you05:38
KeyseirWell shit. I just upgraded to dapper and I wasn't aware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263214 Has anyone been able to get VMware player to work?05:38
Flannelmike_eyb: you won't need to code, you'll need to change configurations, it's not that difficult, there's lots of info out there to help05:38
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nkassimike_eyb: sadly some things are just not there yet.05:38
jbmigel_mike_eyb there is a definite learning curve but believe me it is worth it... just be patient and pick one thing at a time05:38
maxflaxanyone else with a nForce 430 based motherboard_05:39
mike_eybthat is what the guy who gave me the ubuntu cd said05:39
clearzenI'm trying to backup my system over a network using tar and bzip2 and then I am trying to pipe it my server through ssh. But it keeps giving me "host unknown" errors, I know the ssh is working and I don't know what I am doing wrong.05:39
mike_eybbut he speaks binary and klingon05:39
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jbmigel_mike_eyb ka plah!05:40
nkassimike_eyb: my suggestion would be to find someone locally that could walk you through some of the steps. In the end it is worth the work.05:40
KeyseirAnyone here even Use VMware?05:40
maxflaxwell .. of to do that reinstall no.. time to waste.. im not getting any wiser here anyway05:40
dfcarneyi use vmware05:40
charlie5 hello ... this is rather OT, sorry, but i cannot find help anywhere else :/ ... i'm having trouble setting up my firewall to allow the outside to access my svn repos ... i have a netcomm modem/router ... would anyone have some time to help ?05:40
nkassikeyseir: I do.05:40
mike_eybAnyone from Niagara Region, ON Canada05:40
compudazewhats the difference with xchat and xchat-gnome?05:40
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ozzicleHas anyone had any xgl/compiz issues where the program gets drawn but it's nearly transparent and only visible if it's over another program window that's all black?05:40
Keyseirnkassi: Any luck getting it to work on dapper drake or newer?05:41
Pelocompudaze ,  xchat is nice, xchat-gnome sucks05:41
ozzicleIt's not the first time I've had it05:41
compudazewhy does it suck?05:41
Keyseirnkassi: I just upgraded from breezy and I'm having issues as seen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26321405:41
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ozzicleBut this time it's with a program I really need :(05:41
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Flannelozzicle: #ubuntu-xgl (or #xgl)05:41
nkassiKeyseir: yes, you need to install the kernel header package05:41
Keyseirnkassi: I just removed all my vmware files and am trying to reinstall through apt-get...05:41
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ozzicleheh05:41
Keyseirnkassi: How do I do that?05:41
ozzicleTHanks Flannel05:41
nkassiKeyseir: let me lookup the name of the package05:41
dfcarneyKeyseir: you may need to recompile your kernel with VMware support05:41
Pelocompudaze , seriously,  xchat-gnome is more of a noob version of xchat as far as I am concerned , go for the full xchat05:41
Keyseirnkassi: Thank you.05:41
dfcarneyor build a custom driver for it05:41
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Keyseirdfcarney: VMware support?05:41
mike_eybI was trying to update Ubuntu it install 167 packages but retruned two error about the install05:42
Keyseirdfcarney: If I were to do this, where would I start?05:42
mike_eybsomething about dapper05:42
mike_eybwhat is that05:42
tgelterhey all - anyone had success getting compiz and/or twinview working w/ twinview on dual monitors?05:42
Pelomike_eyb  dapper drake is the name of the 6.06 release05:42
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KevinKidHad I known there was an alternate install CD for computers with not a lot of RAM then I would have downloaded that first and not the official one. I think the webmasters of ubuntu.com should place that notice to avoid people like me to have to redownload another iso when our connections aren't that fast.05:42
nkassilinux-header- your platform05:42
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compudazeso the gnome version is a prettied up front-end?05:43
mike_eybhow large is the file and where can idownload it?05:43
KeyseirWhat do I do to check my platform?05:43
nkassiKeyseir: linux-header05:43
FlannelKevinKid: they're both official05:43
KevinKidbut there's no notice saying, hey dude this for people with low ram05:43
Pelocompudaze , I don'T think so, I think it is jsut a bit lighter on features05:43
nkassiKeyseir: uname -r05:43
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Keyseirthx05:43
tnncjust added an video card to my box and screen is black but i can ssh into the box need to know what i need to run so if will cinfure the new card??05:43
Flannelcompudaze: no, it's more 'integrated' into the OS05:44
Pelocompudaze ,  I used it for about half an hour before I figured out is wasn'T just a xchat that wasn'T configured the way I was use to it ,  then I switch back to xchat regular05:44
KevinKidwhere can i post suggestions to improve our community?05:44
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nkassiKeyseir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VmWare05:44
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nkassiKeyseir: You also need build-essential05:44
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Keyseirnkassi: It said I already had linux headers installed =/05:44
mzuverinktnnc, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:44
MadpilotKevinKid, depends on what you mean - software bugs to to bugs.ubuntu.com; community suggestions might be best on the ubuntu-sounder mailing list05:45
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KevinKidwhats the url for that list05:45
nkassiKeyseir: Look at that page, and use the package available from vmware's website05:45
MadpilotKevinKid, one sec, I'll find it05:45
Newbyhello05:45
KevinKidthanks05:45
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tnncmzuverink thanks05:45
MadpilotKevinKid, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder05:46
Newbyhello can anybody help me in the new ubuntu sistem?05:46
dfcarneyKeyseir: you may find that whenever you perform an upgrade that you'll have to run through theses steps again.05:46
Keyseirdfcarney: Wonderful!05:46
tgelteranyone? xgl/compiz w/ twinview?05:46
mike_eybnewby:join the club05:46
dfcarneyKeyseir: yeah, it's a tonne of fun05:46
Madpilottgelter, #ubuntu-xgl05:47
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tgelteroh, thanks Madpilot05:47
KevinKidthanks05:47
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Vaske_Carjrk_, was you the one suggested to disable IPv6 few minutes ago?05:47
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mike_eybNewby: i just installed it 45 min ago from XP i'm soo lost right now05:47
Newbythe problem is " how can i see the shared files from my pc with windows?05:47
mzuverinkFor some reason no matter what screensaver I select it will only blank the screen.  Anyone have any ideas on fixing that?05:47
Flannel!samba | Newby05:47
ubotuNewby: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:47
Newbyim in the cd live ubuntu 6.0605:47
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wefwhy I cant connect via ftp using my ssh root/password?05:48
mzuverinkNewby, try http://easylinux.info05:48
mike_eybgot Places> network servers05:48
FlannelNewby: oh, same computer?05:48
Newbyhaaa ok thank05:48
nkassiKeyseir: just watch for any kernel updates in the list from update-manager05:48
nkassiKeyseir: or if vmware breaks ;-)05:48
mike_eybthat i'm not sure about05:48
Newbybut i have to installed rigth now?05:48
Newbyi mean05:48
Vaske_Car!tell ati05:48
compudazewef: ftp for root is usually disabled05:48
compudazewhich ftpd are you running?05:48
dfcarneywef: security, most likely05:48
Newbyactually i am in a pc whitout hdd05:48
Newbyim using the ubuntu live cd05:49
Madpilotwef, because ssh != ftp05:49
Vaske_Caris there tutorial of how to install ATI drivers for ATI 9200 SE ?05:49
mzuverinkNewby, I used the live cd, installed a bunch of stuff to test, but I am sure that is amount of ram independant05:49
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Keyseirnkassi: I think I'm about to adopt a policy of "liking my kernel the way it is already, thank you ver much"05:49
wefdunno05:49
chuckypAnyone here play cube?05:49
mike_eybI was playing with Ubuntu live.. i just installed it05:49
compudazeusually theres /etc/ftp* files - one is a users file that disables certain users, namely root...05:49
interloperguys how can i boot to text, changing inittab not doing it.05:49
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mike_eybi'm trying to run dual monitors05:49
nkassiKeyseir: that would work too ;0)05:49
Newbymmm05:49
PeloNewby  I know you can run live cd and save your settings to a usbdrive or some such ,  but I am not familiar with the details, if that helps05:49
Newbybut from where can i download that samba?05:49
nkassiNewby: is it a machine on the network ?05:50
Newbyyes nkassi05:50
nkassiNewby: places->network server05:50
Newbyi got 2 pc05:50
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compudazeinterlooper: you you booting into a displaymanager currently/05:50
compudaze?05:50
JuhazOneyo fellas05:50
mzuverinkNewby, got to that page I listed and read it, its got a lot of info05:50
Newbyone with windows xp05:50
compudazeor str8 to X05:50
JuhazOnei've got a weird problem05:50
Newbyand the other with the cd live ubuntu05:50
nkassiNewby: places->connect to server , sorry05:50
JuhazOnei woke up today to the fact that there was no space left on /05:51
interlopercompudaze yes im going straight to graphical right now05:51
ESPOiGwen u have mounted the hdd of the comp that you want to fix grub do u do the install for it like so <grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/harddrive/boot/ /dev/hdc3> or <grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/harddrive /dev/hdc3> or am i wrong completely05:51
PeloJuhazOne  ,  make some room05:51
JuhazOnei found out that ~/.xsession-errors is 3 gigabytes. i removed the file and expected to get more free space..05:51
compudazeso you're not booting to gdm/kdm to enter your passwd first?05:51
interloperyes05:51
mike_eybGuys i'm out thank for the info!05:51
schmitymy mother05:51
Flannel!tell ESPOiG about grub05:51
nkassiNewby: then choose windows share from the drop down menu05:51
JuhazOnebut i didn't. df thinks / is still full.05:51
schmityput a bagel in the disk drive05:51
schmityand now it wont read on ubuntu05:51
dfcarneyJuhazOne: did you reboot after deleting the file?05:51
FlannelESPOiG: that page (first link, about reinstsalling after installing windows) gives the exact command05:51
JuhazOnenope05:51
schmitycan someone help me?05:51
Newbymmm05:51
schmityput a bagel in the disk drive05:51
ESPOiGFlannel, ty man05:51
dfcarneyJuhazOne: that could be why.  the file won't be deleted until all file handles are closed.05:52
JuhazOnethat's something i'm going to try if nothing else works05:52
Newbygood nkassi05:52
PeloJuhazOne   mty trashcan05:52
Newbyim doing hat05:52
dfcarneyJuhazOne: killing/restarting X may just do the trick05:52
nkassiNewby: tell me if it dosen't work05:52
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JuhazOnedfcarney: really?05:52
dfcarneyJuhazOne: though you should probably figure out *why* the file is 3 GB in size first05:52
JuhazOnethat might a be good idea, too05:52
clearzenif you pipe a program to ssh do you still use the syntax ssh user@192.168.0.1:/home/whatever?05:52
Newbyand it appears my pc05:52
dfcarneyJuhazOne: yup.05:52
JuhazOneit was full of "end from FAM server connection" followed by four lines "invalid length 24902".05:53
mzuverinkNewby, you should be able to see the windows xp shares without installing anything with the live cd, just go to places network servers and then windows shares05:53
JuhazOnethat wasn't very helpful imo05:53
dfcarneyJuhazOne: what's not very helpful?05:53
Newbyyes i see it nkassi05:53
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nkassiNewby: good05:53
JuhazOnedfcarney: the messages in the file05:53
dfcarneyJuhazOne: ah.  what did it say?05:53
compudazeIntangir, what did you change in initab?05:53
Keyseirnkassi: Linux headers and build essential were already up to date. For some reason vmware keeps trying to start up Right after I run anything like apt-get in terminal. ANy idea why?05:53
dfcarneyJuhazOne: (please don't cut-and-paste a lot of stuff -- just a line should do)05:53
JuhazOnedfcarney: it was full of "end from FAM server connection" followed by four lines "invalid length 24902".05:53
Newbybut when i try to open the share mmm "forgot the name" whre are the files05:53
compudazesorry, interloper i mean05:54
Newbymmm sorry forgot the name in english05:54
dfcarneyJuhazOne: well, unless you fix it then you're just going to have the same problem again in a couple of days/weeks05:54
nkassiKeyseir: hum! weird, it restarts itself ?05:54
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ojaican someone help me to get xine to play mpg/avis in Edgy?  I had it working fine in dapper and I've got w32codecs installed but xine keeps telling me it's trying to use an unsupported codec05:54
JuhazOnebtw if the file handle is still used, should it appear if i do something like du -x / ?05:54
ojai(already asked on ubuntu+1 but no love)05:54
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clearzenI am trying to backup my system and then ssh the .tar.bz2 file to my server and it keeps telling me "Name or service not known" I don't know what I am doing wrong. Can someone please help me?05:54
Keyseirnkassi: Yes. And if I don't let it try to replace files I get a dpgk error next time I try to apt-get.05:54
Newbywell but when i try to open it, it appears a windows that says something like "i have to change the name or something like that"05:55
JuhazOnedfcarney: possibly. but i have no idea what caused the problem in the first place. this is also the first time this has happened05:55
nkassiNewby: on your desktop there should be an icon or under Places05:55
Keyseirnkassi: I'm trying to pastebin it but pastebin is being slow for me..05:55
ojaiclearzen: what command are you running?05:55
dfcarneyhow long have you been running Ubuntu?  did you upgrade anything recently?05:55
PeloJuhazOne  boot in cli and remove the file manualy ?05:55
interloper<compudaze> the runlevel only its at 305:55
Newbymmm let me see05:55
nuked_omenubuntu upgrade breaks X05:55
JuhazOnePelo: i'll try booting if nothing else works. but i did remove the file using rm05:55
Newbyin my ubuntu desktop ?05:55
clearzenojai: I am using tar and then piping it to ssh05:55
Keyseirbrb05:56
nkassiKeyseir: now I have no clue. never seen anything of the sort. so you used the package for vmware workstation ?05:56
clearzenI can paste the command if you want05:56
PeloJuhazOne   booting in recovery mode would likely make it so that the file is not in use05:56
interloper<compudaze> but the gdm just loads X anyway05:56
compudazeedgy or?05:56
compudazeahh, so you're loading gdm05:56
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nkassiNewby: should be on the desktop.05:56
compudazestop gdm from startup05:56
interloper<compudaze> dapper05:56
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JuhazOneoh well05:56
dfcarneyJuhazOne: double check to see if something is still using the file by typing "lsof" at the prompt (as the root user)05:56
JuhazOnei'll try killing x now...05:57
ojaiclearzen: hrm, never done that before -- maybe just use rsync w/ the 'z' option to enable compression?05:57
Newbyaja there is the share file icon05:57
Newbythe share windows file icon05:57
compudazeupdate-rc.d -f gdm remove - this should stop gdm from starting up when the pc starts up05:57
JuhazOnedfcarney: umm. apparently yeah. 56 progs are using it05:57
compudazeto add it back, update-rc.d gdm defaults05:57
nkassiNewby: it should ask for a user name an password, click save it to your keyring to keep it for ever05:57
Newbyand when i try to open it it appears a windows that says... letme translate you...05:57
dfcarneyJuhazOne: there you go :)05:57
JuhazOneyeah :S05:58
clearzenojai: I know I have the tar command correct but ssh is giving me errors. If you think rsync would be easier I could try that though.05:58
JuhazOneall of them are X apps05:58
JuhazOneof... well, X apps or components05:58
JuhazOneor05:58
dfcarneyJuhazOne: makes sense.  like I said, the file won't really be deleted until ALL file handles are closed on it.05:58
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interloper<compudaze> im gonna try that one thx a lot i'll be back to let you know if it worked.05:58
Hooveyyhow do i get a wmv codec?05:58
Hooveyyfor the movie player05:59
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ojaiif ssh is the one that's giving you errors about name resolution probs, maybe try using the destination hosts's IP addr instead of the host name?05:59
JuhazOnedfcarney: yup05:59
compudazeoh well he's gone05:59
dfcarneyJuhazOne: you can restart X with "Ctrl-Alt-Backspace"05:59
ojaior verify that your name servers are valid05:59
JuhazOnei know05:59
ojaibut you'd probably have experienced other network probs if your name servers were bad05:59
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dfcarneyJuhazOne: as for the FAM errors, I have no idea06:00
Newbyaja nkassi sorri fotr the translation its from altavista.com06:00
compudazewhats fedora using for 'desktop enhancements'?06:00
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Newbythe windows sais "06:00
Newby06:00
NewbyBabel Fish Translation   Help06:00
NewbyIn English:06:00
NewbyThe file name DOWNERO. indicates that this file is of the type fichero of configuraci?del writing-desk. The content of the file indicates that it is of the type x-directory/smb-share.. If it opens east file?e to podr?representar a risk of security for his system. It does not open the file at least that same you have created it, or she has received it from a reliable source. In order to open the file, ren?relo with extensi?correcta for x-directory/smb-share.,06:00
compudazei installed beryl for edgy06:00
Newby soon opens the file normally. Alternatively, aplicaci?espec?ca for the file uses opci?.Abrir with of men?ara selecting one."06:00
compudazeand it works ok06:00
HooveyyHow do I install a WMV Codec?06:00
Keyseir_nkassi: Went and restarted. Going to try to install off the vmware site now.06:00
HooveyyWhere do I get one?06:00
tritiumNewby: please don't paste like that.06:00
ojaiclearzen: but rsync rocks if you haven't used it before06:00
Keyseir_nkassi: I appreciate your assistance06:00
Newbyverry sorry tritium06:01
Newbyvery sorry man06:01
nkassiNewby: send it to me personally, what language is it in ?06:01
tritiumNewby: no problem.  Next time please use pastebin (see topic).  :)06:01
Madpilot!mp3 | Hooveyy06:01
ubotuHooveyy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:01
PeloHooveyy   check the ubuntu wiki for  commercial repository,  or what ever it is called06:01
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ianmacgregor!repos | ianmacgregor06:01
ubotuianmacgregor: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:01
nkassiKeyseir: No probs.06:01
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poningruwhat is up with the piping??06:02
Keyseir_nkassi: Don't suppose you could tell me where to try to setup "new" hardware? My sound stopped working too.06:02
clearzenojai: Does rsync have a 2gig file size limit?06:02
ianmacgregorI like that. The bot now uses the intended nick in the factoid.. nice.06:02
ojaiclearzen: not at all06:02
dfcarneyclearzen: i don't think so, but NFS does (doesn't it)?06:02
nkassiKeyseir: when did it stop working ?06:02
Hooveyyah, thanks06:02
clearzenojai: could I use cat to transfer my backup in pieces then?06:02
nkassiKeyseir: Make sure notting is using it.06:02
Newbyand its in spanish i translated to english06:03
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Newbythe translate its awfull jaja sorry nkassi06:04
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Keyseir_nkassi: nevermind it's working. After I did dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper I had no GUI, then no sound, then no VMware. I'm a little confused about what's all wrong =D06:04
nkassiNewby: hum, if you go to network-server under Places, then windows network and then look for you xp box name06:04
Keyseir_nkassi: I need to reconfigure my screen resolution, too!06:04
dfcarneyclearzen: i believe that tar gives you the ability to split an archive into chunks of a given size06:04
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clearzendfcarney: that is why I was trying to use tar06:05
Newbyaja it appears the folder of the domine name06:05
nkassiKeyseir: A dist-upgrade dosen't take into account a lot. Using the Update-manager for that is a lot better. It does some special stuff to prevent that.06:05
ojaiclearzen: not sure what you mean?  if you wanted to back up your /etc/ for example to 192.168.1.2:/usr/local/backup/, you'd do an 'rsync -avz /etc 192.168.1.2:/usr/local/backup'06:05
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clearzentar -cvpjf /failsafe.tar.bz2 --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/failsafe.tar.bz2 / | ssh taoist@192.168.1.25:/home/taoist "(cat > failsafe.tar.bz2)"06:05
clearzenthat is the command06:05
dfcarneyclearzen: just so i'm clear, you're trying to perform a backup of your system to a remote machine?06:05
Keyseir_nkassi: Next time I suppose. I asked in here and followed what sounded like the soundest advice was.06:05
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clearzenyes, over ssh06:06
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Newbyif i could send you a puicture of my desk for you see it may help, dont it?06:06
nkassiKeyseir: Hehe, dosen't supprise me ;0)06:06
Keyseir_nkassi: How do I access the "upgrade manager"?06:06
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nkassiNewby: so you found you xp machine ?06:06
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nkassisystem->administration->update-manager06:06
Newbyyes06:06
Newbyi found it, and see all the share folders of the others pc's of the intranet06:07
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Keyseir_nkassi: Which version do I want to download off the vmware site? I don't want to get an "evaluation copy"06:07
Newbyor ethernet06:07
ojaiclearzen: hrm, not sure -- I guess I'm not the best at piping stuff through ssh.  but even though you're specifying an IP addr, it's giving you some host name error messages?06:07
Newbybut when i try to enter in one of the mine, it appears the windows06:08
dfcarneyclearzen: you cannot ssh to "taoist@192.168.1.25:/home/taoist"06:08
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clearzendfcarney: Why not? how would I do it then?06:08
dfcarneyclearzen: change your command to " tar -cvpjf /failsafe.tar.bz2 --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/failsafe.tar.bz2 / | ssh taoist@192.168.1.25 "(cat > /home/taoist/failsafe.tar.bz2)"06:08
ojaiclearzen: that's true -- maybe just swap out 'ssh' for 'scp'06:08
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dfcarneyojai: right06:08
dfcarneyojai: i think :)06:09
Keyseir_nkassi: nvm06:09
Newbynkassi i son you the picture in png06:09
ojaiI'd still use rsync :)06:09
clearzenyess it worked06:09
clearzenthank you06:09
dfcarneyojai: rsync is nicer, i agree...but it's not as secure (if that's what you're worried about)06:09
clearzennow to set it as a cron job06:09
ojaihow is rsync not as secure?  it goes over ssh by default now06:09
dfcarneyojai: does it?  of that i was not aware06:10
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nkassiNewby: didn't get anything.06:10
ojaihrm, at least I thought it did :)06:10
dfcarneyojai: you're probably right06:10
clearzendfcarney: Where on the remote server is it going to be saved though?06:10
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JuhazOneoops, i ended up rebooting instead of shutting down and killing x :)06:10
JuhazOneanyway, the file is gone now...06:11
dfcarneyclearzen: as far as i know, in the location specified after the "cat" command\06:11
KevinKidI am planning to learn a programming language so I can contribute to the Ubuntu community specially applications we can use at school (ESL, EFL.) What's the preferred programming language for Ubuntu? I've read that Python is good for Ubuntu. Is it as easy as Visual Basic?06:11
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HooveyyWTF06:11
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okiarohi guys, anybody know a way to split a file into chunks so they can later be reassembled? (eg using rar on windows)06:11
ojaidfcarney: ah, yeah, checking the man page says that modern rsyncs do use ssh06:11
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clearzendfcarney: cool, thank you again06:11
nkassiNewby: can you use the command line ?06:11
tritiumKevinKid: python would be good, yes06:11
HooveyyI just ran apt-get install totem-xine and its removing ubuntu desktop06:11
NoiaI have some problems installing Ubuntu06:11
dfcarneyojai: thanks for looking that up06:11
KevinKidOk, then I'm going to learn PYTHON :)06:11
NoiaI have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and once the Xserver starts up I loose keyboard and mouse functions06:11
Noiaany ideas?06:11
Newbyi drag and drop into the writte box06:11
tritiumHooveyy: right, because ubuntu-desktop depends on totem-gstreamer, which conflicts with totem-xine, which you just installed06:11
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JuhazOnebut i wonder where did the error msgs come from...06:12
Hooveyyso,06:12
Hooveyyubuntu-desktop is completely gone?06:12
Hooveyyx is gone?06:12
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Hooveyyits still running O_o06:12
JuhazOneit wasn't long when i last checked free space on /. must've been within a week06:12
dfcarneyNoai: is it once the Xserver starts, or after the system boots?06:12
defryskubuntu-desktop = a virtual package06:12
tritiumHooveyy: no, X is not gone.  ubuntu-deskotp is just a metapackage06:12
defryskcan be removed safely06:12
Newbysorry for be like an ignorant in the linux :( jeje06:12
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Hooveyyso..06:12
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bimberirelax :)06:12
Hooveyyif i reboot i will have no gnome?06:12
tritiumHooveyy: you'll have no troubles, but you'll want to reinstall it before upgrading to edgy06:12
defryskno06:12
Hooveyyah ok06:12
tritiumHooveyy: yes, you'll still have gnome06:13
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Noiadfcarney, during boot, when the screen is red before the nice little "Ubuntu" thingy shows up I can move my mouse etc, So I suspect it happens when X or Gnome is starting up...06:13
nkassiNewby: open a terminal like this : applications->accessories->terminal06:13
defryskubuntu-desktop stands for the default set of packages for gnome on ubuntu06:13
nkassiNewby: then type : sudo apt-get install smbfs06:13
Newbyaja yep06:13
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nkassiNewby: Type your password06:13
defrysknot in here06:13
krunchi1920help me please about configuring modem connection in ubuntu06:14
P3L|C4N0greetings06:14
Newbypasword of what?06:14
Madpilot!modem | krunchi192006:14
ubotukrunchi1920: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto06:14
nkassiNewby: type y if it ask you06:14
dfcarneyNoai: hmmm...  have you tried booting in 'single' mode and seeing if the keyboard works at the command prompt?06:14
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Newbyin ubuntu i haven any pasword, but in windows yes06:14
Noiadfcarney, yes...it does06:14
MadpilotNewby, the user password you created when Ubuntu installed06:14
Newbylogin and pasword, but just in windows06:14
wrabbit^hi guys... I'm trying to install Ubuntu on another machine with an 80gig hdd.  For some reason, when I try to partition it to have a primary / partition, a logical /home partition and a linux swap it won't allow me to do it.  Logical is greyed out and it gives me an error after it has created hda106:14
Newbyno it was automaticaly intallation of ubuntu06:15
nkassiNewby: when you installed linux it should have asked for a password. Did you enter nothing >06:15
dfcarneyNoai: hmmmm.  I can't say that I know too much about X (it's been a while since I've written a config file for it)06:15
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Noiadfcarney, the keyboard and mouse can default to standard drivers if the more advanced bluetooth systems arn't available06:15
dfcarneyNoai: but you can check the Xserver logs to see what's up06:15
MadpilotNewby, you running a LiveCD, you mean?06:15
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nkassiNewby: LiveCD ?06:15
Newbymmmm let..e.me.... thinkj.,...06:15
Newbyyeah yeah06:15
teledynwrabbit^: i would just use fdisk06:15
Noiadfcarney, I could...if I could move my mouse or use my keyboard :)06:15
Newbythe login its ubuntu and the paswird its nothing06:15
nkassiNewby: AAAHH!!06:15
Newbyyes the live cd06:16
dfcarneyNoai:  haha.  i assumed that you had a spare keyboard around06:16
wrabbit^I'll try that now teledyn06:16
nkassiAnyone knows if the liveCD has samba installed ?06:16
Noiadfcarney, nope..06:16
MadpilotNewby, OK. The LiveCD has no password, just to the 'sudo...' command and it'll work06:16
Newbyha ok06:16
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dfcarneyNoai: well, you may have a problem ;)06:16
JuhazOneoh well. thanks guys.06:17
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Digityhi everyone06:17
Newbyand now i got opend the terminal06:17
Noiadfcarney, and its Noia not Noai :P you'r not setting off my highlight, hehe06:18
dfcarneyNoia: sorry about that06:18
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dfcarneyNoia: have you searched around the web for answers/forums?06:18
Noiadfcarney, no worries :) now...do you know if I can fiddle with the boot options to get it to work?06:18
nkassiNewby: then type : sudo apt-get install smbfs06:18
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dfcarneyNoia: well, if it works before X starts up then you're probably right in that it's a problem with the X config file06:19
Newbysudo apt-get install smbfs??? this???06:19
Noiadfcarney, it might also be gnomes fault06:19
Newbytell me06:19
dfcarneyNoia: it could just be that X is setup to expect a "standard" mouse and keyboard06:19
nkassiYep exactly06:19
nickuCould some one help me with a problem.. how can i change the startup in ubuntu so that is boots up to console not X06:19
nkassiNewby: "sudo apt-get install smbfs"06:19
wrabbit^teledyn: done, thanks for the suggestion06:20
Noiadfcarney, well.. at the moment, the boot sequence goes as follows:06:20
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nkassiNewby: copy paste what is between the quotes06:20
Hooveyylol.06:20
Hooveyyim bord.06:20
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Hooveyyah crap wrong channel06:20
hilzhi. i recently installed ubuntu, but i don't seem to find an ssh server installed by default. is there one or do i need to install one?06:20
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Gog123is oracle buying up canonical?06:20
defryskyes06:20
nkassiGog123: what makes you think that ?06:21
Gog123because of google news06:21
Noiadfcarney: Boot loader, booting sequence, Red screen with cursor (at this point I can move the mouse), Ubuntu Logo for Gnome loader shows up (mouse dies here...), Gnome finishes loading and mouse/kb remains dead06:21
tritiumhilz: you need to install openssh-server06:21
Gog123Ubuntu chief: Oracle Linux has 'tactical value'06:21
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Gog123Shuttleworth, speaking on the eve of the Oracle OpenWorld conference, wouldn't comment on a report that Oracle plans to use Ubuntu Linux or on whether Canonical is working on a partnership.06:22
nkassiGog123: woooooooh!06:22
Newbyit appears ; unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:22
dfcarneyNoia: do you know much about LILO or Grub boot options?06:22
Rookie_Gog123 - your source for this info is ... ?06:22
Gog123http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Ubuntu_chief_Oracle_Linux_has_tactical_value_/0,130061733,339271800,00.htm06:22
hilztritium: thanks. when i install it, does it take care of opening port 22 for it automatically?06:22
Gog123zdnet australia is one06:22
nkassiNewby: Yikes, my suggestion is to install ubuntu06:22
Noiadfcarney, some...but it should be noted, this is the Live CD...I can't acctualy install without the use of my mouse/kb >.<06:22
Newbyjajajaja06:22
Gog123cnet news is another :06:22
Gog123http://news.com.com/Ubuntu+chief+Oracle+Linux+has+tactical+value/2100-7344_3-6128259.html06:22
Newbythick that too!!06:23
Gog123etc...06:23
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boris55ubuntu won't go commercial will it?06:23
nkassiNewby: the liveCD is nice but things will work better with a real installation06:23
Newbyyou said if with the samnba copuld doit dont you?06:23
krunchi1920help regarding dialup , wvdial does not do after dialing just only refuses connection after some time. same isp works well with windows xp06:23
withaYpfft.  maybe a partnership, but elllison has stated many times before in the past that he has no interest in buying a linux distro because he wouldn't have control over intellect. prop.06:23
Gog123if oracle takes over canonical this could lift ubuntu up06:23
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Gog123as LONG as it remains opensource which it will06:23
Gog123oracle wants to sell databases :)06:24
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dfcarneyNoia: sometimes it doesn't matter.  the bootloader and system can use different drivers (through the BIOS or through the kernel).  Just because a keyboard works at startup doesn't mean that it'll work later on.  perhaps the system tries to switch modes and doesn't realize that it lost support.06:24
tritiumhilz: yes06:24
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nkassiGog123: I could install it at work then ;0)06:24
Gog123nkassi:  even if oracle bought up canonical sake of argument, nothing would change06:24
Noiadfcarney, perhaps06:24
dfcarneyNoia: i don't know much about the LiveCD, however.06:24
nkassiNewby: Samba can do it.  I use it all the time.06:24
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Gog123except ubuntu would be even better funded :)06:24
maxflaxok.. ubuntu reinstalled.. soon i'll be a pro on installing linux.. :06:24
Pelog'night folks06:24
nkassiGog123: My boss wouldn't be scared ;-)06:24
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dfcarneyNoia: it's a curious problem06:24
boris55shuttleworth need the money?06:25
Gog123nkassi with google kicking arse06:25
Noiadfcarney, do you know if bluetooth is supported in the live CD? or that the gnome packages used in the live CD have the bluetooth extention installed?06:25
Gog123linux has to be the next thing06:25
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dfcarneyNoia: my recommendation: try to boot it with the 'single' boot option and see if the keyboard works and/or get a PS2 or USB keyboard and take a look at the X server logs06:25
Gog123so some deals and consolidation will likely happen06:25
nkassiGog123: It's either Oracle buys cannonical or rereleases RHEL06:25
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Newbythe weir thing it that, actually i CAN SEE it the folders of my domine group06:25
Gog123just how it works06:25
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hilztritium: thanks, i just installed it and it does seem to work! right after installation! that's amazing! no need to configure anything. Thank you thank you!06:25
Newbyand the shared folders's06:25
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Gog123nkassi:  we shall see06:25
tritiumhilz: :)06:25
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dfcarneynoia: i don't know, though bluetooth support is certainly a kernel-level detail.  the gnome stuff likely doesn't care at all...as long as it gets I/O06:26
maxflaxThis time.. no tinkering or crap.. first im gonna try is those from hell born.. alsa drivers 1.0.13 may they decendent back to the flames of satans wrath06:26
nkassiNewby: I admin, it weird. It should just open up and ask for your windows password06:26
`m0hi what does this mean?06:26
`m0vpnc: error: deobfuscating of password failed (input not a hex string)06:26
nkassiNewby: I think it's an issue with the livecd06:26
Gog123nkassi:  The one good thing is that ubuntu is being more recognized06:26
Noiadfcarney, thats what I thought but apparently gnome has some bluetooth stuff: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/06:26
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nkassiNewby: I admit, it weird. It should just open up and ask for your windows password06:26
Gog123so all this publicity is positive06:26
Gog123cant wait till ubuntu final is out06:27
boris55ubuntu community has gained critical mass really quickly06:27
dfcarneynoia: ugh.06:27
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Vuenquestion, how can i defrag my vfat partition?06:27
nkassi`m0: error in your config i believe06:27
Newbyyeah.. but nothig jeje06:27
tritiumGog123: you mean "edgy"?  There have been previous releases, you know ;)06:27
boris55oracle already owns miracle linux.06:27
dfcarneynoia: i really don't know how to help you out with this one...  i haven't touched bluetooth on Linux ever06:27
`m0nkassi: but what should I lookin my config06:27
Rookie_  quotes ...that Oracle plans to use Ubuntu Linux or on whether Canonical is working on a partnership....06:27
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luisitohello06:28
maxflaxbtw, which is the latest working kernel for ubuntu.. I have 2.6.17-10-386.. but I think I saw 2.6.18-10 somehwere06:28
nkassi`m0: I think they mean the group password, let me look at my config06:28
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luisitowill Edgy Eft be compatible with intel macs?06:28
nkassi`m0: maybe look at IPSec secret06:28
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wickedpuppy!edgy06:28
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:28
tritiummaxflax, luisito: edgy questions in #ubuntu+106:28
Noiadfcarney, well...I can pretty much confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/6732106:28
`m0mkassi: I will look at the sourcecode :p http://svn.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/vpnc/trunk/config.c06:29
`m0heh06:29
luisitook thansk06:29
boris55i bet oracle gets certified to run on ububtu but it won't be a 100% oracle linux stack.06:29
maxflaxtritium, no one talking in that channel..06:29
nkassi`m0: It's a cryptic error  I admit.06:29
`m0why doesn't linux people COMMENT their code06:29
tritiummaxflax: sure there are06:29
nkassi`m0: it's self documenting ;0)06:29
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tritiummaxflax: you're not even in there06:29
dfcarneynoia: ah, well at least a bug was filed about it06:30
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maxflaxtritium, always when im in there.. there are alots of quesions but never any answers.. but I can ask there aswell06:30
dfcarneynoia: maybe you should contact "jbebel@jabber.mybox.org" and see if he figured it out06:30
`m0ret = hex2bin(config[obfuscated] , &bin, &len);06:30
`m0yea it gets stuck here i guess06:30
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dfcarneynoia: i really have no clue...it's the kind of problem that i'd like to debug, but only if i had access to the system06:31
boris55ubuntu enterprise linux right around the corner?06:31
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Vaske_Carhow to install package with .package extension?06:31
Noiadfcarney: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/32415 <-- has a work around in one of the comments06:31
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nkassi`m0: I wonder what obfuscated stand for06:32
NewRhymeHey...does anyone know about MPLayer's lib files, needed for dapper?06:32
Noianow, if I can prevent the bluez libs from loading at start up, then this should work fine06:32
martyndahi, i can't get mod_php5 to load with apache, can someone help me out? when i click on a php file on localhost, it wants to download it06:32
dfcarneynoia: nice06:32
wickedpuppynkassi, you got to see obfuscated c contest then06:32
nkassimartynda: which apache version ?06:33
martynda206:33
Vuenquestion, is there a utility in ubuntu to defrag a vfat partition?06:33
nkassiwickedpuppy: I love being sane ;0)06:33
`m0http://www.google.com/search?q=define:obfuscated06:33
martyndai do have libapache2-mod-php506:33
`m0the comp is confused ;)06:33
dfcarneynoia: probably not too hard.  it's likely started somewhere under /etc/init.d06:33
jman_would anyone be willing to take a second to help me out with Samba?06:33
Vaske_Car.package  how to install?06:33
Rookie_Vuen - nope06:33
dfcarneyjman_: just post your question -- if people can help, they will :)06:33
Vuenalright then. looks like i'll be rebooting into windows :/06:34
jman_ I have samba configured as a PDC but whenever I try to join the domain it says it can't find the username on the domain even though I already created the user using smbpasswd, am I missing something here?06:34
nkassicheck /etc/apache2/mods-enabled06:34
boris55so 10/26 we can talk about edgy here?06:34
nkassimartynda: check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled06:34
tritiumboris55: yes, when it's released06:34
jman_I also created the root user using smbpasswd -a06:34
Rookie_linux has no need for defrag (just read about why) so there is no utility developed06:34
Tomcat_Rookie_: Why, anyway? :)06:34
Rookie_io addressing06:34
jman_#samba06:35
boris55thanks tritium.06:35
Tomcat_Rookie_: Any website? I'd like to know details...06:35
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Rookie_just google it - its about how a hdd is built and how a filesystem works06:35
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martyndankassi: is there supposed to be a php.load or something in there?06:35
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Rookie_microsoft has volumes, linux har partitions06:36
Tomcat_Rookie_: Thanks.06:36
dfcarneyRookie_: i can't see why, say, EXT3 couldn't defrag...06:36
nkassimartynda: hum, there should be a line in mods-available, I think you need to add it to mods-enabled06:36
dfcarneyRookie_: i just googled it and found an active project for an EX3 defrag app06:36
Newbynkassi the ubuntu it good06:37
nkassimartynda: scratch that06:37
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Newbyit my very firt time thta im ising the ubuntu and ith very veryu good06:37
nkassiNewby: sorry, I didn't understand that.06:37
dfcarneyRookie_: doesn't defragging a hard disk simply move allocated blocks to the start of the partition?06:37
Rookie_linux puts the files in a specific sector on the hdd, and then address it and it wont move the file either06:37
Vaske_CarI downloaded software with ".package" extension, how to install it? In Debian I used dpkg - i but it does not work with Ubuntu...06:37
nkassiNewby: Glad you like it.06:37
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tritiumVaske_Car: dpkg does not install .package files, even on debian06:37
Vaske_Carhmm06:38
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dfcarneyRookie_: ah, i see what you're talking about.06:38
dfcarneyRookie_: i'll read up on it.  thanks.06:38
nkassimartynda: so you said you installed libapache2-php5 ?06:38
tnncis there an wat to tell what my video card is it is onboard one06:38
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martyndankassi: yes, there is a mods-avaliable with php5.load in there06:39
Vaske_Cartritium, it was for .deb files, sorry. Do you know what does install .package on Ubuntu?06:39
IcemanV9tnnc: lspci06:39
dfcarneyRookie_: wait a minute...defrag is still useful for linux file systems06:39
bimberitnnc: lspci | grep VGA06:39
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tritiumVaske_Car: nope.  What are you trying to install?06:40
Vaske_Cartririum, xaraextreme.org06:40
nkassimartynda: try copying it to mods-enabled and then restarting apache206:40
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dfcarneyRookie_: think about it: if i want to guarantee that all of my data is written to a consecutive series of sectors (closest to sector 0 of the disk) then i'd need to have an application that could move data around...06:40
tritiumVaske_Car: that's packaged up as a .deb in edgy06:40
nkassimartynda: oh and make sure php5 is installed06:41
tritiumVaske_Car: if you upgrade to edgy, when it's released as stable in 4 days, you'll be able to install it via apt-get or synaptic06:41
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dfcarneyRookie_: the problem is common to both Windows FAT and Linux EXT file systems, isn't it?06:41
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tnncicemanv9 thanks06:41
nkassimartynda: try sudo a2enmod php506:42
Rookie_dfcarney - you mean when a new prog/app will be installed and the hdd begining to be full ? thats not a problem ... the system will move the file and make space if its necessery - but only when the hdd begins to be full (bevlieve it is 90%)06:42
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IcemanV9tnnc: yw :)06:42
martyndankassi: it's enabled, but still tries to dl the php file06:42
Vaske_Cartritium, I do not want to upgrade again and reconfigure all my stuff :(06:42
Vaske_Cartritium, just spent day doing that  :)06:42
Rookie_dfcarney - nope, never been a problem in linux or unix .... wonder why ;) ?06:42
tnncicemanv9 it shows it as an cirrus logic GD 5480  the res is only 800x600 is there an way to change this06:42
tritiumVaske_Car: upgrading doesn't require reconfiguring06:42
defryskVaske_Car, http://autopackage.org/ for explanation .package is not supported by ubuntu06:42
martyndankassi: nm, works now, thanks a lot for your help06:42
nkassimartynda: great.06:43
IcemanV9!resolution > tnnc06:43
dfcarneyRookie_: i'm simply saying that there are uses for applications that can "defrag" a Linux partition.  for instance, if you wanted to split it in two then you want to guarantee that your data is in a big block at the beginning (or end)06:43
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dfcarneyRookie_: please, enlighten me :)  i'm curious06:43
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nkassiGood night folks.06:44
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Rookie_this is far OT :) and its way to early in the morning (6:40 am)06:44
nkassiOr day for the non Eastern time zone folks.06:44
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dfcarneyRookie_: fair enough, though I reserve the right to say that I don't believe your claims :)  That said, I'll look into it for myself.06:45
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tritiumj_ack: please disable that06:45
Rookie_up to you to belive or not ...06:45
tnncicemanv9 yes resolution is only 800x600 and i wondering if i can get it better and how06:46
dfcarneyRookie_: yup, but it's up to people making claims to support them.06:46
IcemanV9tnnc: read what ubotu just send (about resolution) in pm06:46
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dfcarneyRookie_: anyhow, thanks for the insight.  i'll read up on it.  have a good night.06:47
tnncicemanv9 not sure how to do that where is find it06:47
IcemanV9!resolution06:47
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:47
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IcemanV9tnnc: last sentence should do the trick :)06:48
Vaske_Cartritium, i downloaded diferent package, in unpacked folder I have folders: BIN, MIME-STORAGE, SHARE... is it possible to install with this?06:48
tnncicemanv9 thanks06:48
Geoffrey2I'm trying to apt-get, and I'm getting an error that it can't open the lock file, can't lock the administration directory, am i root?06:48
dfcarneyGeoffrey2: well, how are you running the command?  as root?  are you using 'sudo'?06:49
tritiumVaske_Car: sorry, I can't help you with .package files.  Again, xara is in edgy.  Please consider upgrading06:49
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IcemanV9sudo apt-get06:49
Rookie_dfcarney - heres a good description - http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting06:49
wrabbit^ sudo apt-get install a bullet in my head06:50
Geoffrey2sudo....d'oh!06:50
wrabbit^I wish there weren't so many distros to choose from06:50
jbmigel_wrabbit^ ubuntu is a pretty good pick are you just getting started with linux?06:52
IcemanV9now, you don't have to, wrabbit^. ubuntu is it. :)06:52
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chewyhi06:52
wrabbit^jbmigel_: I've been playing with linux for a month or so now. I have Kanotix on this machine and Ubuntu on my other.  Zenwalk on the laptop.06:52
wrabbit^Just too many to play with06:52
wrabbit^and I never get any work done cos I'm downloading and getting distros setup. :06:53
chewyis there any way i can run a program on a kernel event06:53
dfcarneyRookie_: that doesn't address one of the benefits of defragging a hard disk :)  Sure, defragging a disk helps performance (in Windows), but it also tends to move all of the allocated blocks to the beginning of the partition/block/whatever.  If I want to split the partition then I need to do this.06:53
chewylike every time iptables posts an event, run a prog06:53
Rookie_not if u use lvm06:53
dfcarneyRookie_: So, for performance reasons Linux does not need a defragger, but if you want to split a partition then you do.06:53
ESPOiGis there a way to edit files with vi or something while in grub06:53
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JaytheGreathey guys06:53
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jbmigel_wrabbit^ i played around with most of them for about a year. then i got tired of installing/reinstalling all the time, now i just use ubuntu and automatix and have working sys in 30mins06:54
wrabbit^ESPOiG: Not sure but try pressing 5 when the grub menu comes up06:54
dfcarneyRookie_: haha.  how many people use LVM nowadays? :)06:54
phireIf I have a folder of deb's on my computer, can I set it up as a repo for apt-get06:54
ESPOiGwrabbit^, thx06:54
dfcarneyRookie_: anyhow, this is totally off topic06:54
Vaske_Cartritium, installed :) - had just to install imagemagick in order to be able to run xara06:54
Flanneljbmigel_, wrabbit^,don't recommend automatix here.06:54
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dfcarneyRookie_: i'm willing to bet that NOBODY uses VFAT over LVM for their Linux environment :)06:54
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akant2do any of you use iFolder in production?06:54
wrabbit^I don't use automatix but I don't see anything wrong with it.06:54
IcemanV9!automatix06:54
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!06:54
wrabbit^ESPOiG: it may not work but try.06:54
chewyso is it possible?06:55
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Flannelwrabbit^: it breaks peoples systems beyond repair06:55
chewythat every time my iptables wall makes a log for me to get some code running06:55
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chewywith the info in the event06:55
bh_Anybody know what the status of etch is yet ?06:55
Flannelbh_: you might try #debian06:55
talioshola - has anyone here had issues with mounting an ipod under edgy?  I just noticed it no longer gets mounted ('no configuration chosen from 1 choice' shown in logs)06:55
wrabbit^Flannel: Nothing is beyond repair. :)06:56
talios(not sure if edgy discussion is valid here tho..?)06:56
Flannelwrabbit^: no, automatix makes things beyond repair06:56
crimsunmark, #ubuntu+106:56
Flanneltalios: you'd be better off asking in #ubuntu+106:56
talioscrimsun: ah yeh...  cheers06:56
wrabbit^jbmigel_: I know how that is.  I just want something that works. So Ubuntu, Kanotix and Zenwalk(most of the time) all work for me.  I'm just tempted to try others like SuSe and Fedora06:56
wrabbit^Flannel: sounds scary06:56
jbmigel_Flannel i think that bashing something is worse than recommending it06:56
wrabbit^hehe06:57
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JaytheGreatmy ubuntu freezes almost every time i use it :-(06:57
Flanneljbmigel_: it's not bashing, it's being honest.06:57
wrabbit^Flannel: has somebody addressed this problem?06:57
jbmigel_Flannel well it worked wonders for me the first time, that is me being honest06:57
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Flannel!worksforme06:57
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:58
Vaske_Caris there a way how to increase default toolbar size and font size for using Ubuntu with high resolutions06:58
jbmigel_Flannel ubuntu works for me06:58
Vaske_Carlike DPI setting in Windows06:58
bh_Where can I get information on the next major release of Ubuntu ?06:58
Flannelwrabbit^: it's not an ubuntu product, we have no control over it.06:58
IcemanV9!schedule06:58
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:58
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bh_particularly the more experimental branches06:58
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wrabbit^Flannel: No I mean, has anybody confronted the developers.  Via email or whatever06:58
bh_thanks06:58
wrabbit^and are they doing anything about it06:59
Keyseir_nkassi: You there?06:59
Flannelwrabbit^: we can talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic06:59
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wrabbit^Yep, sorry. Didn't mean to go off topic in support06:59
Keyseir_What are C headers and how do I install them?07:00
Keyseir_A vmware installation script isn't finding them in the default place.07:00
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: as in "kernel headers" ?07:00
Keyseir_dfcarney: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running07:00
Keyseir_kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 07:00
poningru!java07:00
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Keyseir_dfcarney: The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.07:00
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: C headers are just "header files" -- they contain the interface information for function calls, global variable definitions, etc...  when compiling a C program the compiler needs to refer to them to figure out where stuff it.07:01
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dfcarneyKeyseir): ... stuff *is07:01
Keyseir_dfcarney: I already have the correct linux-headers installed07:01
dfcarneyKeyseir_: does /usr/src/linux/include exist?07:02
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: actually, what directories are under /usr/src/linux ?07:02
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Keyseir_dfcarney: /linux doens't exist. "linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386  translucency.tar.bz207:03
Keyseir_" are under /usr/src/07:03
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|thunderSweet. New Venture Bros is on.07:03
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[BTF] Chm0dhey guys where is the kernel source for ubuntu?  I am trying to install the beta drivers for nvidia card and it cannot find the kernel source?07:04
dfcarneyKeyseir_: what's under linux-headers-2.6.12-10 ?  is that the kernel that you're currently using?07:04
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Keyseir_dfcarney: uname -r = 2.6.15-27-386 , but when I ran apt-get install for those linux headers it said it was the latest version..07:04
JaytheGreatdoes anybody know why my ubuntu freezes sometimes and can never properly shut down?07:05
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: hmmmm.07:05
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Oh wait, something changed07:05
ArrenLexKeyseir: AFAIK you don't need the kernel source to build drivers; only the headers.07:05
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: well, you could try and create a soft-link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10... and see what happens (but that's an evil hack)07:05
Keyseir_drcarney: Now it says it isn't installed, so I'm installing the new linux headers. I sweared a minute ago I ran something for that and it was new07:06
jonkelleHi all.  Does anyone know of a repository containing OOo2.0.4 for Dapper?  I'm going to wait about a day before I alien it in.  But I would prefer to point apt a good repository.07:06
dfcarneyKeyseir_: ok.07:06
cyberim starting to enjoy linux now but any way07:06
ArrenLexjonkelle: you can download debs for it from the openoffice site... hold on, let me find it...07:06
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Sorry to ask for help with something I must have missed.07:06
dfcarneyKeyseir_: no problem.  we've all been there :)07:06
IcemanV9JaytheGreat: you may want to check the syslog or dmesg for some clues07:06
[BTF] Chm0danyone?07:06
Keyseir_dfcarney: =)07:06
omacJaytheGreat...I have seen ubuntu seem to freeze at shutdown when you have external usb drives on and not ejected/unmounted.  If you do wait, it eventually unmounts and shuts down gracefully.  If you don't like the delay, unmount/eject the external usb drives.07:06
dfcarneyjonkelle: you could change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to backports.org...07:07
JaytheGreatI don't have any usb drives07:07
cyberhmm07:07
cyber209mb of update's07:07
dfcarneyjonkelle: they've got OOo2.x for Debian sarge... they may have a port for Ubuntu07:07
cyberis what i get thismorning07:07
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cyberi dont know if i should update or not07:07
oxdotanybody ever heard about a generic driver for a panasonic (kx-p7100 - win) laser printer ?07:07
cybermy bro might get a little irratated07:08
JaytheGreatIcemanV9, how do I check my syslog or dmesg? i'm on XP now anyway07:08
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Vaske_Carwhere to read new stuff implemented into Edgy??07:08
Keyseir_dfcarney: I'm glad I went with ubuntu opposed to say, Debian. Ubuntu IRC support > Debian IRC support... by a fucking long shot07:08
cyber!language07:08
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:08
cyber:P07:08
jonkelleI was wondering if there was a backports site with 2.0.4 on it already.07:08
Keyseir_Doh.07:08
IcemanV9JaytheGreat: /var/log/syslog and type "dmesg" in the terminal07:08
dfcarneyKeyseir_: yup.  I learned Linux on Debian...thankfully, I had a couple of friends who started with Slackware, so they knew the ropes.07:08
JaytheGreatthanks07:08
Keyseir_dfcarney: I need to make myself learn more. Ubuntu is too easy on me.07:09
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: haha.  that's the point, isn't it?07:09
[BTF] Chm0dcan anyone tell me where the kernel source files are located for ubuntu?  nvidia drivers cannot find them?07:09
jbmigel_Keyseir_ gentoo is a good learning distro07:09
Keyseir_dfcarney: But whenever I have a problem I have to come crying to this channel07:09
dfcarney[BTF] Chm0d: you likely need to install them07:09
JaytheGreatI'm still having trouble installing programs on linux07:09
[BTF] Chm0dthey have been installed07:10
Keyseir_dfcarney: That's no good.07:10
JaytheGreatie Flash, or any program for that matter07:10
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IcemanV9!flash07:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:10
noiadfcarney: I got it working07:10
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: well, there are tonnes of books about Linux out there.  O'Reilly is a good place to start07:10
cyberwouldnt sudo apt-get install flash get it???07:10
JaytheGreatI've read all the methods to install flash, but none of them work07:10
cyberi dont know im new to this :/07:10
wickedpuppyJaytheGreat, you got problem typing sudo apt-get install programname ?07:10
Keyseir_dfcarney: nods07:10
dfcarneynoia: good work -- promotions all around!07:10
JaytheGreatI always get an error07:10
noiadfcarney: apparently what happens is that there is a problem in bluez.util. when it runs its HCI restart script, my bluetooth hub freezes...07:11
Keyseir_dfcarney: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Should I direct this to my newly created linux headers dir?07:11
cyberJaytheGreat, open synaptic & find flash :P07:11
ArrenLexjonkelle: no, can't find it. Nevermind.07:11
JaytheGreatthen I did another method: i did one of those tricks "mk dir mozilla" (or whatever it is) and tried to get Firefox to install flash for me, but i still got an error07:11
dfcarneynoia: ah, interesting07:11
noiadfcarney: was a simple task of restarting in and then removing bluez07:11
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omacJaythegreat: cp flash* /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/;cp libflash* /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/07:11
dfcarneyKeyseir_: yeah, try that.  if that fails, i suggest creating a soft-link yourself.07:11
JaytheGreatok guys I'm gonna boot into ubuntu so i can try this07:11
cyberkk07:11
cyberany way07:11
rbilKeyseir, ok, if it's so easy for you, you can probably help me. I'm building a NAS server. It will be using external USB hard drives that will be constantly attached and unattached from the box. Since this is a server box, no X anywhere in site, the drives will automount thanks to udev. BUT, we don't want to have to worry about what USB port a particular drive is plugged into and we want a fstab that will always be correct regardless of the 07:12
rbilome udev rules are in order. Good approach?07:12
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Cyber_Schoolill see you later on07:12
Cyber_Schooli need to actually get an education07:12
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Keyseir_rbil: What I was trying to say is that everyday operating is so easy that whenever I have a problem I am unprepared. Read: I need to make myself learn more about linux because ubuntu isn't forcing me too very often.07:12
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rbilKeyseir, well I thought I'd force you a bit. :-)07:13
tnnccan someone suggest an video card to use with 6.06 but not an high end card07:13
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Keyseir_rbil: Yar.07:14
Keyseir_rbil: So uh, what does NAS mean? ;-)07:14
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rbilhaha07:14
noiacould anyone recomend a decent terminal font?07:14
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Geoffrey2has anyone here tried to BitTorrent download OpenOffice.org?07:15
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lampshadedoes democracy player fail really hard for anyone else in dapper or just me?  Like doesn't play videos.  Locks up frequently, etc?07:15
wickedpuppyi have ... why ?07:15
wickedpuppylampshade, vlc ...07:15
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Keyseir_dfcarney: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-38607:16
Keyseir_The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.07:16
lampshadewickedpuppy: vlc interacts with Democracy's stuff?  or am I going to be manually downloading lots and stuff?07:16
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Keyseir_dfcarney: And then it's back to the original prompt. Should I look into that "soft link" thing?07:16
Geoffrey2I'd like to download the two Open Office .iso files, but they're only available via BitTorrent, and I've never used BitTorrent before07:16
wickedpuppylampshade, no no .. vlc is a video player ... which i recommend ...07:16
dfcarneyAh, how about " /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386/include" ?07:17
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Vaske_Carwow first time in my life I have everything in Linux and do not need Windows no more :)07:17
wickedpuppyGeoffrey2, welcome to the internet :P07:17
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: hold on...lemme check something out.07:17
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nerCould you tell me normal keyboard layot switcher for KDE? =)07:18
lampshadewickedpuppy: right, and democracy is MORE than a video player.  That's my point.  I hate when people recommend a solution that's not a solution.  It is like asking for a web browser and someone responding with wget.....  yeah sure wget download webpages... but it isnt' the same.  (I also already frequently use VLC which is why I asked if there was some way I didn't know about where it did the job of subscribing, etc that democracy07:18
lampshadedid)07:18
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wickedpuppylampshade, my apology ...07:18
Corporal_DirgeOk, I can't take this anymore. Whenever I'm browsing through a folder with a .swf file Nautilus crashes.07:18
JaytheGreatand ubuntu froze again...................07:18
whysothats odd i played a song in VLC, and closed it but the song goes on :)07:18
RancidLMhey all i accedently deleted a backup on one of my servers.. nothing to important was lost but is there a way to recover something thats been deleted on a ext3 partition (i think)?07:19
wickedpuppynope i can't help you with democracy player there07:19
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Bingo on the /include =D07:19
crimsunwhyso: known issue for Dapper's wxvlc.07:19
dfcarneyKeyseir_: ah, good07:19
wickedpuppylampshade, i also did not know you used vlc before and so on ... again my apologies07:19
ArrenLexRancidLM: no, there is no way to recover files deleted from ext3 partitions; they are overwritten pretty thoroughly.07:19
whysocrimsun: any fix?07:20
wickedpuppywhyso, killall wxvlc ... thats normally how i solve that problem07:20
RancidLMArrenLex: thats what i was a fraid of.. thnx!07:20
lampshadewickedpuppy: sorry, I kinda flipped out there too--just frustrated with lockups and such from this program you know07:20
whysowickedpuppy: k thanx07:20
dfcarneyArrenLex: well, you can always try to read the raw bits from recently de-allocated inodes, but that will drive you crazy07:20
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ArrenLexRancid: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html#undelete (if you don't believe me)07:20
omacJayTheGreat:  How long has it been since you cleaned the insides of your computer i.e. your cpu fans, power supply fans, graphics card fans.07:21
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crimsunwhyso: it's already fixed in Edgy's07:21
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Whoa, we appear to be running vmware!07:21
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RancidLMhow can i tell what partition is a drive in a shell prompt07:21
JaytheGreatMY case is off now but XP never freezes07:21
dfcarneyKeyseir_: good stuff07:21
mneptonRancidLM: df -h07:22
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JaytheGreatmy case doesn't have much dust in it... it's a bran new hard drive07:22
wickedpuppyJaytheGreat, xp never freezes cause it crashes ... jk jk :P07:22
Keyseir_dfcarney: I think I learned some things along the way, but thanks to your and nkassi's advice I haven't had to bang my head against the wall too much.07:22
Squirrelshow do i make transparent terminals07:22
RancidLMmnepton: thats what i thought but its just showing me mount points and size rather then the fomrated filesystem type07:23
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: yeah, messing around with build issues (related to headers, kernel stuff, etc...) is pretty painful07:23
noiawhat are some security measures I can take to secure my ubuntu install?07:23
rbilRancidLM, fdisk -l07:23
JaytheGreatI wonder why ubuntu freezes...07:23
mneptonRancidLM: sudo fdisk -l07:23
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: do you have power-management enabled in the BIOS?  Sometimes, that can cause startup/shutdown issues07:24
wickedpuppynoia, you can shutdown unnecessary services and so on and on.. google for linux security .. also get bastille if you are paranoid07:24
omacJayTheGreat: ok so, what were your last actions on the mouse and keyboard when your computer froze.  Please confirm your cpu, gpu, box fans are all dust-free.  I don't care about your new hard drive.07:24
RancidLMmnepton: ok thnx!07:24
JaytheGreatok let me check07:24
JaytheGreatabout the dust07:24
noiawickedpuppy: hmm07:24
noiawickedpuppy: you wouldn't happen to know anything about XGL would you?07:25
wickedpuppynoia, #ubuntu-xgl07:25
noiaah07:25
Squirrelshow do i get transparent terminals?07:25
tnncanyone can suggest an cheap video card that woks good in ubuntu07:25
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wickedpuppynoia, i did try it with sled 10 ... not with ubuntu07:25
Rookie_tnnc - riva tnt207:25
BlingBling..07:25
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dfcarneytnnc: any nVidia or ATI card that's 2+ years old07:26
JaytheGreatwell, there are small amounts of dust but nothing major07:26
wickedpuppyi suggest nvidia ...07:26
oxdottnnc : whats the purpose of the card ? Desktop ?07:26
rbiltnnc, you want cheap, get a 16MB Matrox G400 - it'll have to be used and sold around ebay for like $1007:26
mneptontnnc: where are you geographically?07:26
mneptonrbil: that's funny. i asked about his location because Tiger Direct in Canada has the G450 dual-head for $2.99 new :)07:27
rbilhaha07:27
tnncmnepton i am in usa in TN07:27
rbilok, bidding on ebay might push up the price07:27
Geoffrey2ok, I see the BIttorrent version in the repos is out of date, can I get a newer version through the repos or do I download the version from bittorrent's website?07:27
mneptontnnc: let's see if TigerDirect in the USA can hook you up07:27
mneptonHOLY ..... !!!07:28
mneptonhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1755113&sku=TC3H-104107:28
wickedpuppyGeoffrey2, get ktorrent or azureus ... i used both and they are both damn good ... azureus got java slowness07:28
mneptonthat's ... insane.07:28
JaytheGreatis the small amount of dust causing my ubuntu to lock up?? is this related to the fact that I can never properly shut down?07:28
rbilmnepton, maybe I'll order half a dozen. great card for 2d Linux. Nice dual monitors.07:28
mcquaidhello, i had an old pci card and now put in a nvidia card07:28
mneptonrbil: check that URL07:28
rbilI'm in Canada07:28
mcquaidi ran the dpkg xorg-server reconfigure thing and everything seemed to go ok07:28
jbmigel_JaytheGreat have you tried running the memtest from grub?07:28
mneptonrbil: and prepare to change your pants.07:28
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JaytheGreatno, but I did it before once07:29
mcquaidbut it asked me about the busid and it still defaulted to the old card instead of agp07:29
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mneptonrbil: just hot up tigerdirect.ca and search for "matrox" (it's the only product they have)07:29
JaytheGreatand cancelled it halfway through. I couldn't understand any of it07:29
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mnepton*hit up07:29
tnncare not those cards apg07:29
dfcarneyjbigmel_: odds are that it's not a memory problem if it only happens on shutdown.  my guess is that the kernel is trying to shut down the system with a call to the power management layer in the BIOS.07:29
mcquaidwasn't sure of the syntax to indicate agp, and I checked in dmesg and agpgart is loaded so it probably doesn't make a difference but I'd like to set it properly07:29
jbmigel_JaytheGreat maybe try letting it run once, if you have a bad ram stick it will find it07:30
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dfcarneyjbigmel_: i've seen the problem before; it happened to me for a while too.07:30
mneptontnnc: yes, they are agp07:30
mcquaidalso it asked me the amount of memory in KB of my card and I just hit enter, was is the syntax for this in xorg.conf?07:30
rbilnice price :-)07:30
JaytheGreatmy computer also randomly freezes quite often07:30
BlongGeeIs Linux worth the learning curve07:30
Geoffrey2wickedpuppy, if I install ktorrent, should I take out the bittorrent client?07:30
tnncok minbe doesnt have an slot for one of those07:30
mneptonrbil: no kidding, eh? the americans get them *free*.07:30
mcquaidI'd like to still enter it, again not sure if it helps07:30
tnncas i think i have one of those here somewhere07:30
jbmigel_BlongGee no i would suggest you give up learning anything and become a potato07:30
rbilBlongGee, is dating a girl for a month, spending money on lunches, sending her flowers, worth it?07:30
mcquaidJaytheGreat, my brothers machine kept freezing and it turns out it was an acpi issue07:30
omacBlonGee: yes emphatically.07:30
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dfcarneyJaytheGreat: ah, well then...could be the disk controller too.  in that case, jbigmel_'s suggestion makes total sense -- check the RAM07:30
JaytheGreatwhat's acpi?07:31
ArrenLexBlongGee: a linux IRC channel is not the most unbiased place to ask that.07:31
mneptontnnc: good luck. PCI video cards are few and far between. you might be able to find a TNT2.07:31
mcquaidhe turned that off and no more crashes, no clue what your issue is though but could help07:31
ArrenLexI have a PCI video card. I hate it.07:31
JaytheGreatdfcarney, you're suggesting I do a memory test under grub?07:31
ArrenLexStupid ATI. Can't make it work with 3d.07:31
mcquaidthere is a pci version of the fx5500 i think07:31
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ArrenLexTrade you.07:31
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BlongGee<rbil> no woman ain't worth it lol07:31
rbilwell Ubuntu is worth it07:31
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: ACPI -- Advanced Configuration and Power Interface.  There's also APM -- Advanced Power Management07:32
JaytheGreatok07:32
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: but, yeah, a memtest is a good place to start07:32
BlongGeenice anology tho07:32
ArrenLexrbil & BlongGee: I find it absolutely hilarious that you are comparing installing Linux to having a girlfriend. And not surprised.07:32
JaytheGreathow do yall get so profecient07:32
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JaytheGreatok guys, i'm going to reboot and do a mem test. what should I be looking out for?07:32
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dfcarneyJaytheGreat: experience is a good teacher07:32
mcquaidJaytheGreat, before doing a memtest disable acpi07:32
Rookie_Linux does what you tell it to do, a girlfrined have their own will ...07:33
JaytheGreatok, how do i do that?07:33
mcquaida memtest takes hours07:33
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rbilanyone who gets into GNU/Linux in a serious way, won't have a girlfriend for long07:33
mneptonArrenLex / tnnc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681415006407:33
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tnncthanks to all who reply07:33
dfcarneymcquaid: i'm curious, why do you want him to disable it before the memtest?07:33
ArrenLexRookie_: if only Linux did what you told it to do. Then none of us would be here.07:33
BlongGee<ArrenLex>?07:33
Rookie_hehe, true07:33
bugi have a quick suggestion/gripe, if anyone here has anything to do with the ubuntu wiki....07:33
Troy_McClureanyone able to help answer a question for me?07:34
JaytheGreatmemtest takes hours??? :-(07:34
BlongGeeif my box had a vagina I wouldnt need woman.....can linux provide?07:34
omacJayTheGreat...don't do the memtest...the fact you made the ubuntu run...your mem is ok...it's something else..maybe ACPI disabled is a good bet.07:34
ArrenLexmneopton: but that, ah, costs... what is it called... money.07:34
dfcarneymcquaid: memtest certainly won't make a BIOS call to activate APM or ACPI07:34
mcquaidbecause one is much quicker, and I've known a few users with acpi issues and bad ram is pretty rare07:34
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: yup.  count on 1-2 hours07:34
mcquaidok maybe I missed something your getting random lockups right?07:34
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Troy_McCluredoes the fglrx drivers support an r480? the dri wiki isn't to clear on it07:34
JaytheGreatyes, random lock ups07:34
mcquaidok one sec07:34
ArrenLexBlongGee: yes. http://www.fu-fme.com/07:34
dfcarneymcquaid: oh, for sure.  acpi problems are much more common07:34
mcquaidexactly07:35
mcquaidok JaytheGreat do this07:35
JaytheGreatok07:35
rbilJaytheGreat, Linux so very rarely has these problems, I'd look at hardware probs before anything else07:35
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mcquaidlaunch a terminal, cd /boot/menu07:35
omacJayTheGreat:  you said the lockups occurred after you started the shutdown....that's not random.07:35
mcquaidsorry cd /boot/grub07:35
JaytheGreatno, they occur randomly and also after i hit shut down07:35
dfcarneymcquaid: i thought that you meant "disable ACPI in the BIOS and run the memtest", as opposed to "try booting after disabling ACPI, if that fails run a memtest".07:35
mcquaidyes and shutdown stuff sounds like acpi07:36
mcquaidok once at /boot/grub make a backup07:36
duckdownHi all.. Is anyone at all familiar with how I can get my sound to work in Opera?07:36
mcquaidsudo cp menu.1st menu.1st.original07:37
JaytheGreatthat command makes a backup?07:37
rbilbad filename07:37
dfcarneymcquaid: sorry to confuse the issue, but can't he just type "noacpi" at the boot prompt?07:37
mcquaidyes he can do it that way as well07:37
mneptonit's "menu.lst"07:37
mneptonlower case L, not the number 107:38
JaytheGreatok checj07:38
JaytheGreatcheck07:38
mcquaidah doh07:38
mcquaidi always hit tab never noticed that07:38
mnepton"list," not "first" ;)07:38
JaytheGreatalright07:38
mcquaidI thought to add it there so he can test it for a few days to ensure it is that07:38
bugmaybe the lockup has something to do with syncing a disk/partition.. i had that problem once with ntfs-3g on a drive that was connected through a promise sata card07:38
mcquaidhow frequent are the lockups?07:38
dfcarneybug: could be that too07:39
JaytheGreatabout half the time i use ubuntu07:39
mcquaidonce a day, few times a day?07:39
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JaytheGreatfew times a day07:39
bugoh man it was ANNOYING.. plus, sometimes i'd lose stuff.. but i've gparted converted since then =-)07:39
mcquaidok, well if you want to try this I'll finish I'll leave it up to you07:39
dfcarneybug: :)07:39
dfcarneymcquaid:  me?  ah, i think that you're doing a fine job.  besides, i gotta go soon07:40
mcquaidsudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.original07:40
mcquaidheh, i always thought that was a 1, but oh well07:40
bugduckdown: is sound working in other progs?07:40
omacJayTheGreat:  have you managed to watch a video completely before your computer hangs.07:41
Troy_McClurebleh... no DRI ati pro's in the building?07:41
duckdownbug yep07:41
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JaytheGreatyeah sometimes I can go for 2 hours or whatever07:41
ArrenLexTony: what problem?07:41
mcquaidnext, gksudo gedit menu.lst07:41
rbilJaytheGreat, if you go for longer than 4 days, do see your doctor.07:41
mcquaidsearch for End Default Options07:41
omacJayTheGreat:  It's not your memory.  definitely something else.  maybe acpi.  give the acpi disable a try and reboot without memtest.07:42
Troy_McClurejust curious if the DRI driver supports an r480, its listed in the wiki under the r300 project... but does that mean it works?07:42
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JaytheGreatok, how do i disable acpi?07:42
mcquaidright below that should be the first default kernel options that you load07:42
bugduckdown: i know that firefox lets you choose the sound daemon.. there may be a file wth a name like .operarc somewhere that has that option07:42
mcquaidwhere you see this line:07:42
mcquaid/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash07:42
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mcquaidchange to07:42
mcquaid/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet acpi=off splash07:42
JaytheGreatmcquaid, me?07:43
mcquaidnoacpi works as well I believe07:43
mcquaiduh who else?07:43
hollaback83does ubuntu have yahoo chat with voice07:43
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ArrenLexTroy: do you mean the radeon driver?07:43
bugthere should be a list somewhere of the paths/filenames of progs that are linked to through the standard gnome start/settings/whatever menus07:43
omacthese switches mean different things.  acpi=off is better.07:43
mcquaidomac, ya I wasn't positive on noacpi, i used acpi=off07:44
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: for reference, what mcquaid is showing you are the "kernel boot options" used to start your system.  the string that he's having you add, "acpi=off", will disable ACPI power management by the operating system.07:44
mcquaidyes thx dfcarney07:44
Troy_McClureArrenLex: believe that is it07:44
mcquaidtoo many of us tell with explaining :)07:44
dfcarneymcquaid: heh07:45
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mcquaidrarely do you have to reboot in linux, but this is a case where you do for it to take effect07:45
hollaback83does ubuntu have yahoo chat with voice07:45
mcquaidanyway you can confirm acpi is off by doing this in a term on reboot07:45
JaytheGreatok, so I start ubuntu again and open the terminal, and I do this: sudo cp menu.lst.lst original, and then gksudo gedit menu.lst and then add in acpi=off   ??07:46
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omachollaback83: I'm not sure they support yahoo chat with voice.  skype works and ekiga works.07:46
mcquaiddmesg | grep ACPI07:46
mcquaidone sec one line looks wrong there07:46
hollaback83ok07:46
mcquaidsudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.original07:46
mcquaiddo it that way07:46
mcquaidbut yes, back up menu.1st, append acpi=off to the line I pointed out07:47
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Keyseir_How do I add new screen resolutions?07:47
JaytheGreatok I forgot a word07:47
Keyseir_I need a non-default resolution for my widescreen monitor07:47
mcquaidreboot, and optionally confirm acpi is turned off with dmesg | grep ACPI07:47
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mcquaidit'll say something to the effect of acpi disabled07:47
mcquaidthen use puter and cross fingers07:47
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: well, you can manually add them to the XF86Confiig file, I think (but that's totally old school).  I'm sure that there's a nicer way to do it.07:48
JaytheGreatok07:48
mcquaidif it locks it's something else, then try ram test07:48
cleverwhy cant i get lirc modules compiled for my kernel07:48
JaytheGreatthanks, I'll try this now07:48
mcquaider memtest07:48
cleverin a package that comes with ubuntu07:48
omaccool....puter :)07:48
JaytheGreatthen i'll do a memtest and go to bed07:48
Keyseir_dfcarney: lol07:48
dfcarneyKeyseir_: though i dunno if you'll need a special driver for a non-standard resolution07:48
Keyseir_dfcarney: I've done this before... I just edited a text file07:49
Keyseir_dfcarney: 1440x900 just isn't on the list07:49
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Geoffrey2hmmm, trying to download the latest OpenOffice.org version, but it seems all I can get is an .rpm.....07:49
Keyseir_dfcarney: of screen resolutions on screen resolution prefs07:49
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: i say that you just edit the config file by hand then07:50
bugi'd say that the easiest way to do the resolution thing would be to just edit the x config file.. just be sure to md5sum|tee it after editing!07:50
Keyseir_dfcarney: k07:50
ArrenLexGeoffrey: yeah, that's how it ships. You can use alien to convert.07:50
dfcarneyit's probably /etc/X11/XF86Config-407:50
jonkellebackup your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf by     $ cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf`date +%d%m%y`07:51
Keyseir_dfcarney: I did a file search for "xf86config" and only found archives07:51
jrsimshey! I downloaded a mouse cursor pack from gnome-look. It's in a tar.gz. How do I install it?07:51
jonkellethen edit your xorg.conf file with the new desired resolution.07:51
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jonkelleyou should have a file called xorg.conf under /etc/X11  that is your huckleberry.07:52
Keyseir_jonkelle: thanks07:52
dfcarneyKeyseir_: I suggest that you follow jonkelle's advice on this one.  The last time I edited my X config was 3 years ago (for a Debian system)07:52
Keyseir_dfcarney: hehe. oldsch00107:52
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jonkelleif you mess it up, you can always copy your backup in place.07:52
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Keyseir_thanks jonkelle, i'm trying to do that.07:52
noiahow do I install the firefox2 beta in ubuntu?07:52
bugnoia: don't =-)07:53
noiait dosn't appear in apt-cache search =\07:53
bugnoia: wait until tuesday for the final07:53
noiabut that means waiting :(07:53
dfcarneyKeyseir_: hey man, that was back when the 2.4 kernel was just becoming  popular :)07:53
fdsdhey guys, I am writing an app that will image harddrives, does anyone know how I can read the name of a macintosh Volume, like for example the name of the drive is "Macintosh HD" but in linux how do I find this info? where is it stored?07:53
Keyseir_dfcarney: I'm 17 and have been running Linux for under a year... YOUR NOSTALGIA IS NO GOOD HERE SIR.07:53
bugnoia: true, but it also means that you don't have to do it again in two days.. and there will (hopefully) be a deb package then07:54
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dfcarneyKeyseir: haha.  well, i'm 29 and i've been using it for 10 years.07:54
rbilyoungsters!07:55
bugwhat is the best dvd burner for value, quality, and linux-compatibility?07:55
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Keyseir_dfcarney: You've been doing this since... uh.. Nope! not before I was born.07:55
wrabbit^hey.. just did a full 6.06 reinstall on my ubuntu box. I've installed the regular updates required on first install.  What do I have to do to upgrade to edgy?  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?  Is anything else required?07:56
wesleyYou need to change your sources list07:56
mneptonhehehhe .... "youngsters"07:56
dfcarneyKeyseir_: man, you don't even remember the 80s, do you?  well, you didn't miss much.07:56
bugchange everything that says dapper to edgy, i think07:56
wesleyYeah07:56
wesleyJust do a find and replace07:56
robitaillewrabbit^:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades07:56
wesleyGood luck.07:56
wrabbit^bug: ah right.  Will do07:56
b0xiino A-team?!!!07:57
wrabbit^thanks robitaille07:57
Keyseir_dfcarney: I was born in may of 89. So, that's correct.07:57
bugdfcarney, ha except for the quality transformers toys and voltron.......07:57
mneptonanyone here ever actually use Hollereth cards? hmmm? :)07:57
wesleyI was born in May of 88, Keyseir. Grow up.07:57
wrabbit^hehe07:57
Keyseir_Trying.07:57
rbilinfants!07:57
wesleyOh shush old man.07:57
jrsimshey! I downloaded a mouse cursor pack from gnome-look. It's in a tar.gz. How do I install it?07:58
rbilhehe07:58
mneptoni have t-shirts born before 1988.07:58
dfcarneybug: ah, voltron.07:58
dfcarneybug: that brings back memories07:58
rbilI haven't changed my socks since 198807:58
wesleyJrsims...07:58
wesleyGoogle.07:58
Keyseir_brb07:58
wesleySeriously though, install it through theme manage07:58
jonkellevoltron transformers, and the kmart styled transformer knock-offs Gobots!07:58
bugdfcarney: i really can't remember the show that well.. i just know that the lions were much cooler than the vehicles07:58
wesleymanager07:58
rbilbeddy bye for the children :-)07:58
buggobots? i think i had a couple!07:58
wesleythen look in prefrences for coursor themes07:59
dfcarneybug: that's all the show had going for it.07:59
wesleyYeah, Click mouse.07:59
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jonkellevoltron preceded transformers by more than few years though.07:59
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mneptonwhen i was a kid, "Transformers" were usually used to describe Wendy Carlos, Lou Reed, and David Bowie.07:59
jonkellethey just kept playing the reruns all through the 80s.07:59
wesleyHaha.07:59
bugi still have my voltron toys...08:00
wesleySo wait, 80's discussion?08:00
noiaanyone know why I cant access one of my hds (hda) but I can access my other ones...even the ntfs ones ?08:00
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jonkelleis hda formatted?08:00
rbilanyone here get excited when monitors moved from 40 characters wide to 80?08:00
mneptonnoia: what does "ls /dev/hd*" tell you?08:00
bugis it plugged in? i forgot to do that once after moving some stuff around.. it was scary08:00
noiajonkelle: yes, and visible08:00
wesleyI came in to the CRT era.08:00
bug...did you mount it?08:01
noiabug: /dev/hda08:01
mneptonrbil: i got excited when there were monitors placed at my workstation instead of having to use the bullpen.08:01
dfcarneymnepton: yeah, but *those* kinds of dolls aren't marketed to kids08:01
rbilOK, how about when a 1MB hard drive dropped below $1000?08:01
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mneptonhard drive?08:01
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jonkellethat was more space than anyone would ever need!!!08:01
bugcga.. the wave of the future08:01
mneptonwhat's wrong with our tapes?08:01
jonkellei remember my dad saying that.08:01
wesleyStop this. I feel too young.  And no one should ever feel that way.08:01
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bugyeah? talking about how much today's music sucks makes you feel OLD.. stupid "new rock" heh08:02
rbilHow about when you got your first 300 baud modem and sent your first email?08:02
noiabug: woops...I made a mistake08:02
jonkellehey speaking of tapes... who else here wrote their first basic program on an atari, and saved it to tape?  cassette tape addon?08:02
bugnoia: no problem08:02
noiabug: the error is: error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable08:02
rbilI did, but it was before atari ... coco computer08:02
mneptonjonkelle: my first code was written on a PDP 11/40 timeshare.08:02
Geoffrey2300 baud?  try 110 :)08:03
dfcarneyrbil: same.  a tandy coco 308:03
b0xiijonkelle: TI-9908:03
noiabug: where sda1 should be my windows installation...08:03
rbilhaha08:03
rbilprogrammed a turtle to walk across the screen in a programming language called logo08:03
jonkelletime shares were slightly ahead of my curve.  I was just a kid with a nerd dad, who brought home every type of inexpensive computer.08:03
rbilsave program to an audio tape08:03
wesleyMy first program was written on a calculator08:04
Geoffrey2hmmm, Quantumlink anyone?08:04
b0xiiit was loud too!08:04
wrabbit^upgrading now :)08:04
jonkellewe had vic20s, commodore 64s, atari 400s, atari 800xl, amigas, trash 80s.08:04
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wesleyGood luck man08:04
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rbilTrash80 with 8" floppies?08:04
jonkelleYeah.08:04
Geoffrey2rbil, Model IV?08:05
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wesleyGodddddd. You are all too damn old. I want geek stories :(08:05
jonkellewe also had a small trash  80 that was portable.  i don't remember the exact model number, but it fit into a receipt printer that was portable as well.08:05
rbilcan't remember .... then Kaypro ... portable that you could drive a tank over with 9" green monitor08:05
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rbilonly weighed 45 pounds08:05
bugi had a friend with the old acoustic coupler type modem08:05
bugi loved bbses...08:05
sipherMight be a stupid question but.. will Ubuntu let me burn a CD while running the live CD (with a single drive)? Like.. can it eject the live CD, take a blank one, burn the data and ask for the live CD again?08:05
sipherguess that's a no08:05
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wesleyYeah, thats a no.08:06
rbilI miss FidoNet08:06
KeyseirCan anyone suggest a good screen resolution for a 19" Widescreen LCD that'll give me more space then 1440x900?08:06
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wesleyWhat is the native resolution?08:06
rbilwith a 300 line autoexec.bat file setting up all the routing08:06
Geoffrey2rbil, yeah, the Kaypro....you could call it portable....kind of....08:06
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wesleyKeysier, What is the default resolution?08:06
rbilas portable as carrying a clothes dryer around :-)08:06
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Keyseir1440x900 is the resolution suggested on the monitor box.08:06
sipheroops. Sorry. Lag08:07
wesleyOk. Then that is what you should run it at.08:07
wesleyJust use Virtual Desktops.08:07
KeyseirI think I might have had something slightly smaller that fit right before I ran dist-upgrade and lost some stuff.08:07
buga college that i went to had a "portable" computer with a carcinogenic monitor08:07
bug(supposedly)08:07
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wesleyYou can try running other resolutions. But you risk damaging your montior.08:08
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dfcarneyKeyseir: what is the make/model?08:08
rbilbug, I don't know? but these warts on my eye balls are getting annoying08:08
KeyseirJust thought somebody else with a 19" widescreen might advise.08:08
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bugrbil, ha08:08
logankoesteranyone got any suggestions as far as software to sync a windows mobile device?08:09
Keyseirdfcarney: Acer AL1916W08:09
logankoesterpocketpc08:09
wesleyhaha.08:09
wesleyLogan. Google is your friend. What did the almighty Goog say?08:09
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logankoesterDunno, still workin on it08:09
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rbilthe almighty Goog said get a pda that runs Linux08:10
logankoesterhad one, it sucked :p08:10
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rbilJornada 720 running Debian08:10
wesleyEw.08:10
wesleyI know that it has software for Palm OS08:10
wesleyBut you know.  It is a Windows Device that your trying to hook up.....08:11
noiaso, does anyone know why /dev/sda1 appears "mounted" but can't be accessed? Its supposed to be my windows installation (NTFS) but I can't get to it...08:11
jonkellepermissions probably.08:11
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rbilI used to sync a Windoze PDA under Mandrake, so there's been software out for awhile to do that.08:11
Keyseirdfcarney: I've yet to find the handy resource I'm googling for.08:12
noiajonkelle: hmm08:12
wesleyHm.08:12
wesleyWell, I dont use a PDA so sorry.08:12
jonkelletest it by going to the terminal.08:12
jonkelletype sudo su -08:12
jonkellethen cd into the directory.08:12
dfcarneyKeyseir: yeah, i was looking for the manual online.  it'll tell you the resolutions available to it... though 1440x900 seems like the one to use.08:12
jonkelleif that succeeds, you probably need to modifiy the permissions on the directory.08:13
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Keyseirdfcarney: <nods> I'm 80% sure this wasn't the resolution I was using before, but 1440x900 looks about the same so I guess I'll let it rest.08:13
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dfcarneynoia: how is the directory mounted?  i wasn't following your conversation.  is it over NFS, via Samba, ?08:13
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jonkelledo a long listing on the directory itself.08:13
jonkellehe said ntfs.08:14
jonkelleI'm betting he is not the owner is all.08:14
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pudlandquestion: how can i manually install GRUB on UBUNTU Dapper Server08:14
dfcarneyjonkelle: well, it may be more than just changing the permissions.  if remote authentication is involved he'll have to add himself to the team instead.08:14
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noiajonkelle: apparently its not a directory..08:15
jonkelleI didn't see him say anything about remote authentication.08:15
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jonkelledo a df -k and tell me what you see.08:15
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jyothishhello08:15
jonkelleis that mount listed in df -k?08:15
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noiajonkelle: nope...08:16
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jonkelleok, so it is not mounted.08:16
dfcarneyjonkelle: no, but you need to map the remote UIDs/GIDs to the local machine in order for the permissions to work08:16
noiajonkelle: odd08:16
jonkelletrue.  but he  doesn't even have the file system mounted.08:17
dfcarneyjonkelle: ok.  i must have missed something in your conversation.08:17
jonkelleso, he's not to that point yet.08:17
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noiajonkelle: its just odd that it appears under the "my computer"08:18
dfcarneyjonkelle: oh wait...you said NTFS, right?  i'm an idiot.  i thought that you said NFS08:18
jonkelleyeah ntfs...08:18
dfcarneyjonkelle:  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:19
jonkelleI was wondering what I missed.08:19
jonkellenoia, can you tell me if you have an entry for your mount under /etc/fstab?08:19
jonkelleshould have it's own line.08:19
jonkellealso run the command mount and tell me if you see it.08:20
jonkellejust the command mount with no arguments08:20
noiaapparently not08:20
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jonkelleare you running off of a live cd?08:21
jonkelleor installed system?08:21
noiajonkelle: installed system08:21
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jonkelleok....08:21
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jonkelleand mount didn't return anything correct?08:21
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noianothing relating to /dev/sda108:22
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dfcarney\quit08:24
dfcarneyoops08:24
dfcarney:)08:24
wesley:)08:24
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rbilgot my first keyboard today that has a Windoze key on it. Doesn't do anything in Linux? What gives? I thought at least an activation message would come up.08:26
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rbilor it would start to defrag my Sea Drive08:27
mneptonrbil: try scrolling up in a screen session without that key ;)08:27
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noiaso...08:27
rbilin a terminal?08:27
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infidelanyone know a utility to write chm files?08:27
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poningrunoia: whats wrong?08:28
noiajonkelle: any idea how I should mount it? I suspect I should put something in /etc/fstab08:28
noiaponingru: mounting issue08:28
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noiaits been years since I had to mount anything at all...08:28
noialitteraly08:28
rbilit's been years since I could mount anything08:29
infidel!chm08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
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Keyseir_!ubotu08:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:30
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Geoffrey2can alien handle wildcards?08:30
jonkelle_I'm sorry was disconnected there.08:30
s_spiffanyone here upgraded to EE RC?08:30
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noiajonkelle_: alright08:30
jonkelle_noia, do you know how to add an entry to /etc/fstab?08:31
s_spiffEdgy Eft Release Candidate?08:31
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noiajonkelle_: unfortunatly, last time I used /etc/fstab was 4 years ago...so I don't remember a thing >.<08:31
Geoffrey2if I have several rpm files in a single directory, can I use something like 'alien *' to convert them all, or do I need to enter them one at a time?08:31
krautmoin08:31
s_spiffjonkelle_, there is a wiki entry on that. search, if you can't find, i'll check it out.08:32
rbiljonkelle, what do u want to add to fstab?08:32
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noiarbil: jonkelle_ is helping me...08:32
Admiral_Chicagos_spiff: i did08:32
s_spifflol sorry jonkelle_08:32
Troy_McClurewoot woot! aiglx and beryl!08:32
logankoestergrr08:32
jonkelle_ok08:32
s_spiffAdmiral_Chicago, cool how many mb's did you have to download?08:33
jonkelle_noia add this line to /etc/fstab08:33
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rbilgoodnight folks08:33
Admiral_Chicagoi have no idea08:33
Admiral_Chicagoi was on Edgy since Knot 1 though08:33
logankoesterI can't get xmms to use the right display08:33
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s_spiffAdmiral_Chicago, okie. doin that right now. hopefully should work fine.08:33
logankoesterxmms -display :0 just says "invalid option -- d"08:33
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s_spiffAdmiral_Chicago, i c. I'm on DD amd64. just upgrading now. to check it out. will do a clean install when the EE final is out.08:34
Admiral_Chicagoi didnt have any problems08:34
jonkelle_  noia:  /dev/sda1 /windows ntfs defaults 0 008:34
jonkelle_leave off the preceding noia of course08:34
s_spiffgood to know that08:34
jonkelle_and for /windows whatever directory you want it to be.  the directory should already be created though.08:34
Admiral_Chicagos_spiff: did you see the change log?08:34
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s_spiffAdmiral_Chicago, not quite. i was tempted by the new kernel and gnome, and the new fancy artwork. so i thought i should check it out08:35
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jonkelle_then after you add that line to fstab, and make that directory.  you should be able to mount it by typing mount /windows08:36
Admiral_Chicagoi don't remember the link but like stuff like upstart is crazy08:36
jonkelle_all the above should be done with sudo of course.08:36
s_spiffAdmiral_Chicago, yes i read about it, what exactly does it do?08:36
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noiajonkelle_: right, done08:36
gnomefreaks_spiff: and Admiral_Chicago please join #ubuntu+1 for that topic08:36
noiaI guess a reboot should confirm if it works08:37
s_spiffsorry gnomefreak will do that08:37
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jonkelle_no, if you mount it now, it will confirm08:37
jonkelle_just type mount /windows or whatever you named your directory08:37
jonkelle_err... sudo mount /windows08:37
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jonkelle_after you do that type df -k to verify that your filesystem is mounted.08:39
noiajonkelle_: I can cd to it, but its owned by root >.<08:40
jonkelle_ok, now it is a permissions problem.08:40
noiayup08:41
jonkelle_can you see the files in that directory?08:41
Keyseir_noia: use "sudo" before the command, and use your special password.08:41
noiaprogress :D08:41
jonkelle_yeah.08:41
noiaKeyseir_: I'd rather not have to...08:41
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noiajonkelle_: yup08:41
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jonkelle_good.08:41
bh_dependencies like libpango are breaking the upgrade08:41
Keyseir_noia: some commands require superuser abilities.08:41
jonkelle_that means now your file system will mount next time you reboot, etc.08:41
jonkelle_so, we just have to sort out your ownership and permission.08:41
noiaright08:41
Ademanhow is cmake? is it better/easier to use than make, automake, libtool etc?08:42
jonkelle_if you do a long listing, what is the owner group and rwx permissions on the files?08:42
jonkelle_ls -la08:42
gnu2it2what happened to the edgy eft release date? the web is still showing 6.06 as current08:42
Ademangnu2it2: 26th08:42
Flannelgnu2it2: release is on the 26th, like always08:42
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gnomefreak!schedule | gnu2it208:42
ubotugnu2it2: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:42
noiajonkelle_: which files exactly?08:42
noiajonkelle_: the ones in the new mounted drive?08:43
jonkelle_yes.08:43
jonkelle_i just need to see one line in all likelyhood08:43
Geoffrey2can anyone point me to directions on how to add a debian repository, such as etch?08:44
gnu2it2ok,,  should hit about same time as new hardware,, thanks08:44
noiadr-x------ 1 root root       4096 2006-09-20 02:06 Documents and Settings08:44
jonkelle_ok, you have 2 things going on.  it mounted it as read only for root.08:44
noiaah08:44
noiacan linux even write to ntfs yet?08:45
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oxdotgeoffrey2 : edit the file : /etc/apt/sources.list08:45
jonkelle_it depends on the kernel you have if it supports it.08:45
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DaGameHELO BOYZ08:45
jonkelle_however, if you just want to access the files, we can fix that post haste.08:45
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jonkelle_you just want to be able to get to your windows files and either copy them or view them correct?08:46
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FlannelGeoffrey2: Ubuntu can't use debian binary repositories safely08:46
Chippyhello there08:46
BurkeyHello everyone, am I in the write channel to ask about fglrx on Edgy?08:46
noiajonkelle_: yea, I don't really need to write anythign to them08:47
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Geoffrey2Flannel, phooey...it can't?  oh well, guess I just wait until the package gets updated in Ubuntu08:47
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jonkelle_ok, so try this command, it will probably fail, however, if it does, we'll have to remount the filesystem after we make a change to /etc/fstab08:47
jonkelle_but first08:47
Chippyit seems that some packages are invisibile to me.. or something??  when I try to apt-get install some packages, it can't find it.... here's my sources.list: http://pastehere.com/?odonhf ... packages it won't install are: (among others) beryl and linux-dri-modules-common08:48
RMorris84im having a problem with my flash, i just had installed the flash 9 beta the other day, and as far as flash goes its better, but it seems to be that alot of you tube videos lose sound like halfway through, is this common?08:48
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Chippyhmm, I'm on amd64... would that make a difference in the repos?08:48
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DaGameUR KING IZ ERE08:49
oxdotjonkelle and noia : i have some similar problem i can mount my win-dir (ntfs) as user, but can only access files as root. fstab : ro,users, noauto08:49
jonkelle_from inside that directory08:49
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MadpilotChippy, some stuff is not available for 64bit08:50
MadpilotDaGame, enough ALL CAPS, OK?08:50
jonkelle_$ sudo chmod -R 555 *08:50
jonkelle_it will probably fail, because I think the file system is mounted read only.08:50
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ChippyMadpilot: but wouldn't something as common as linux-dri-modules-common and beryl be in 64bit?08:50
jonkelle_so, let me find the right /etc/fstab entry for ntfs08:50
gnomefreakDaGame: also to add to madpilot stay on topic :)08:51
MadpilotChippy, no idea - but try #ubuntu-xgl for Beryl08:51
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DaGame:)08:51
ink_hello, I'm trapped in an error and i can't get out: "/bin/bash: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_starting_up, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference08:51
ink_"08:51
ink_happened after dist-upgrading08:51
ChippyMadpilot: I did, but they're not helping at all for the packages, that's the problem08:51
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oxdotjonkelle_ -t ntfs ? not08:51
ChippyMadpilot: it's the packages that are the problem right now08:51
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BurkeyIs there a specific place I should be asking about fglrx on edgy giving me mtrr errors? or can someone here assist?08:52
MadpilotChippy, beryl is so new it's not even really alpha, so I've no idea what's going in in 64bit-land for it08:52
oxdot(only ntfs in fstab)08:52
noiajonkelle_: should I do this while as root?08:52
MadpilotBurkey, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy08:52
gnomefreakits built for 64bit arch08:52
jonkelle_ yes....  or use sudo08:52
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BurkeyMadpilot: thanks mate!08:52
screechingcatBurkey, maybe #ubuntu-xgl ?08:52
gnomefreakChaKy: ask in #ubuntu-xgl for the answers you seek08:52
ChippyMadpilot: gotcha, thanks08:53
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Burkeyscreechingcat: thanks but i am not on xgl atm.. i dont think08:53
noiajonkelle_: its changing permissions08:53
jonkelle_oxdot, we already have that.  unfortunately, he wants to access his files as a normal user, so I have to hadd the user flag for him I believe.08:53
gnomefreakChippy: ^^08:53
jonkelle_it's not throwing errors?08:53
ChippyMadpilot: but what about the linux-dri-modules-common or whatnot?08:53
noiajonkelle_: er..yea08:53
gnomefreakChippy: ask in #ubuntu-xgl for the answers you seek08:53
noiaread only08:53
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MadpilotChippy, no idea, tbh08:53
jonkelle_ok... give me a second.08:53
oxdotjonkelle_ is the group not enough ?08:53
ChippyMadpilot: lame... I guess I should just install 32bit and avoid the headache then eh?08:54
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jonkelle_noia: replace the word default with the following inside /etc/fstab08:55
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jonkelle_users,owner,ro,umask=00008:55
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MadpilotChippy, that seems to be what a lot of people do...08:55
jonkelle_so now it should read /mnt/sda1 /windows ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 008:55
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jonkelle_then sudo umount /windows and sudo mount /windows08:55
ChippyMadpilot: yeah, it's pretty lame though, there should be enough demand by now...08:55
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thomas__hey everyone, for some reason my system is starting the dial up connection on boot. how can i turn this off?08:56
yakumohello pls help evertime i use apt-get install this error mssg appear08:56
yakumodpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cdda2wav_4%3a2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6_i386.deb08:56
ChippyMadpilot: mkay, thanks for the help... 32 bit it is08:57
gnomefreakyakumo: what mirror are you using?08:57
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gnomefreakyakumo: is it giving you "failed to overwrite bleh" errro08:57
yakumonope08:57
noiajonkelle_: alright08:58
noiaone sec..08:58
gnomefreakyakumo: what is the error than?08:58
SurfnKidcould anyone help me with beryl?08:58
gnomefreakSurfnKid: #ubuntu-xgl would be best place to ask08:58
yakumo files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline08:58
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thomas__anyone know why my dialup would be starting automatically on boot, or how to turn it off?08:58
gnomefreakyakumo: sounds like a coding issue08:58
yakumodo i need to reinstall my ubuntu?08:59
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gnomefreakyakumo: are you on edgy?09:00
yakumodapper09:00
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gnomefreakok try sudo apt-get install fuse-utils09:00
gnomefreaklet me know what it says09:00
noiajonkelle_: works :)09:00
noiathanks alot09:00
Flannelgnomefreak: it's in universe09:01
yakumoi don't if the cause of the problem start when i instal  sudo apt-get install python python-wxgtk2.609:01
gnomefreakFlannel: i know i used apt-cache09:01
jonkelle_cool.  if you ever want to write to it, I believe you will have to install some special kernel modules.09:01
jonkelle_glad to help you though.09:01
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fulat2khi folks, i've got a weird problem with my wifi connection.  even though my pc is ~3ft away from the ap, the connection quality is really bad.  pinging the AP router takes >1 second. any ideas?09:03
jonkelle_oxdot did you see the line I had noia add to his /etc/fstab?09:03
yakumoi try install fuse-utils is already the newest version. the mssg appear was09:03
yakumo0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 186 not upgraded.09:03
KenSentMeHas anyone tried flash player 9 beta yet?09:04
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gnomefreakyakumo: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:04
gnomefreakKenSentMe: yes09:04
KenSentMegnomefreak: and, did it work well?09:04
gnomefreakit works fine for me on FF 3.009:04
oxdotjonkelle_ umask=000 ?09:04
jonkelle_yeah.09:05
KenSentMegnomefreak: 3.0?09:05
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gnomefreakyes its alpha09:05
jonkelle_that is the one which allows you to browse as a normal user.09:05
oxdotwhat does it mean ... ntfs ?09:05
yakumook ill try09:05
jonkelle_ntfs is the file system type.09:05
KenSentMegnomefreak: lol, did you use the binaries from the adobe site?09:05
boinknew technology file system09:05
gnomefreakyep but there is a deb made09:05
Flannel!flash909:05
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)09:05
oxdotespecially for it (ntfs) ?09:05
yakumoif i may ask what does the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:06
KenSentMeFlannel: nice, thanks09:06
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jonkelle_ok, since windows nt microsoft has been trying to replace fat32 with the nt file system09:06
jonkelle_or ntfs09:06
gnomefreakyakumo: it will upgrade the packages that are not upgraded and as long as you sources.list if official dapper than you will stay on dapper09:06
jonkelle_these days xp and such default to that.09:06
jonkelle_so yeah ntfs is specific to windows09:06
jonkelle_although some drives are still formatted in fat32, but it will bitch at you if it is the wrong fs type and you specify something else in the /etc/fstab09:07
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yakumook :)09:07
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oxdotno i now that ntfs is win specific, but for ext3 i only have the user flag.09:07
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mneptonNTFS = Not Trustworthy File Scrambler09:08
jonkelle_you shouldn't have that problem on ext309:08
jonkelle_what are your permissions in the filesystem you are looking at?09:08
jonkelle_if you do an ls -l inside the directory.09:08
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oxdoti cannot change to my windir as user only as root ...09:09
jonkelle_oh ok.  that is the same problem noia was just having.09:09
oxdotthe dir itself have root:root09:09
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jonkelle_can you copy the line from your /etc/fstab that specifies your windows file system?09:10
LookTJwhat is a good ircd for noobs?09:10
boinkirc server?09:10
mneptonircd?09:10
oxdotdev/hda1/_xpntfsro,user,noauto0009:10
mneptonnoobs should not run ircds.09:10
LookTJirc server yes09:10
mnepton;)09:10
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boinkwhy do you want your own ircd?09:10
LookTJi have forums. thought it might be cool to have ircd too09:11
mnepton"what's the best airline for me to be a 747 pilot? i've never flown before."09:11
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boinkdo an apt-cache search ircd09:11
Geoffrey2mnepton, Trans Air09:11
mneptonLookTJ: seriously, an ircd is not for the faint of heart.09:11
boinkand you should find one which you want to use09:12
jonkelle_ok, comment that line out.... and try this one.09:12
LookTJok thanks09:12
diebelsHaving problems with soundcard in an centrino laptop. It's "Chip: Generic 14f1 ID 5047" in alsamixer. Some conexant hda chip. Only getting Master, PCM and capture controls, missing control for headphone and line in. Tried applying this fix: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-September/001063.html to the ubuntu kernel, but no difference. Anybody want to help?09:12
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jonkelle_try /dev/hda1 /windows ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 009:13
jonkelle_then umount the current file system, make sure you have a /windows directory created and sudo mount /windows09:13
seatuxwhat is the line to add mouse scroll wheel support to xorg.conf?09:13
zhelezkasorry for the stupid question :) I want to redirect my stdout and stderr into a file without its rewriting. If I want only to redirect stdout, I write >>, but how can I do that with both stdout and stderr?09:14
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twevmy dial up is starting automatically on dial up, i really need to stop this, can somebody give me any ideas?09:14
twev*startup09:15
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oxdotFine ! thanks, but what does the umask mean ?09:15
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jonkelle_umask is the default permission level the file system is mounted as.09:15
jonkelle_so a umask of 000 is equivalent of telling mount to try and mount with permissions 777 or rwxrwxrwx09:16
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matthew_wWhat are some reasons my computer would be unable to detect my printer?09:16
jonkelle_in the case of a read only file system it will only mount it w-xw-xw-x09:16
yakumoi use the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade by i still got the same error mssg. :)09:16
yakumo(Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cdda2wav_4%3a2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6_i386.deb (--unpack):09:17
yakumo files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline09:17
yakumoErrors were encountered while processing:09:17
bimberitwev: if /etc/network/interfaces has a line like 'auto ppp0' in it, comment it out09:17
gnomefreakyakumo: file a bug report than09:17
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poningrugnomefreak: ping09:17
oxdotOk thanks !09:17
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jonkelle_no problem.09:17
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gnomefreakyakumo: sudo dpkg -r cdda2wav09:17
jonkelle_ok.  to bed I go.  later all.09:18
yakumook09:18
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oxdotsweet dreams !09:18
Geoffrey2while looking through Synaptic, I noticed a large number of graphics drivers installed for the X server...any problems with deleting those I don't need?09:18
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yakumoi try rm then this appear dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove cdda2wav which isn't installed.09:19
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gnomefreakyakumo: lol09:20
gnomefreakyakumo: file a bug report09:20
twevbimberi: there is auto with some other ones but not ppp0, it just has this iface ppp0 inet ppp09:20
twevprovider ppp009:20
gnomefreaki was afraid of that one09:20
seatuxwhat is the line to add mouse scroll wheel support to xorg.conf?09:20
wmealingout of interest, im trying to install etch, and it seems many packages were corrupt, at the time of download.. the iso md5/sha1 matched..09:20
wmealingis it broken ?09:20
yakumosorry im a newbie how to? :)09:20
Madpilotwmealing, etch or edgy? Different things09:20
wmealingapologies.. etch.. I think. the one in testing.09:21
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wmealingthe current supported one fails to install on my macbook.09:21
gnomefreakwmealing: etch is debian and edgy is ubuntu both are testing09:21
Madpilotwmealing, Edgy is the Ubuntu version in testing; Etch is Debian's upcoming release - so I think you mean Edgy09:21
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zordahey dude i need some help09:21
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gnomefreakwmealing: what does lsb_release -a say09:21
bimberitwev: hm,  sorry i'm not sure then :|09:22
wmealinger, its during install.09:22
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timhaughtonWhat's the easiest way to find the disk usage per folder?09:22
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twevbimberi: thnx neway09:22
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mneptontimhaughton: du09:22
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zordaplease help me09:23
timhaughtonmnepton: Thanks09:23
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mneptonPlease Insert $.25 To Continue09:23
zordame a noob in the big linx kernal that i can get in to. leagal and im scared!09:23
Flannelzorda: the only way you're going to get help is by asking questions ;)09:23
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realfolkbluescan anyone help me understand this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1465348#post146534809:23
wmealingrealfolkblues, nick from Cowboy Bebop ?09:24
realfolkblueswmealing yes09:24
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Madpilotzorda, it would help if you actually asked a question first...09:24
zordaThe repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences i got this can my roder be doing that?09:24
Flannelzorda: you can still connect to the internet on the machine?09:24
yakumois it posible to save the pakage that i install using apt-get install on my cdr/dvdr? because im plannig to reformat but i already have a lot software install.09:24
zordayea09:24
Flannelzorda: then no.  pastebin your sources.list09:25
Flannel!paste09:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:25
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wmealingok, Edgy is what I'm running.. I keep hearing about this distro, but I can never seem to even get it to install.09:25
gnomefreak!fixres | realfolkblues09:25
uboturealfolkblues: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:25
realfolkbluesI'm missing an inch off the top and bottom of my screen it's not fun!09:25
gnomefreakwmealing: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy please09:25
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netGhi09:26
zordarealfolkblues:  i think your moniter is dieing bro09:26
realfolkblueszorda: no it's x's fault09:26
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netGhow can I know if I'm behind a NAT?09:26
spikecan anybody help me with alsa please? http://rafb.net/paste/results/1jys2c59.html09:26
piglitwrong frequenty ?09:26
gnomefreaknetG: i dont think its hard to figure it out. did you hook it up to use a nat?09:27
zordaFlannel:  um09:27
Shadowpillarflash 9 beta has been released09:27
piglitrealfolkblues: if it is the wrong frequenty try edditing xorg.conf09:27
zhelezkahelp me please with my redirection09:27
netGI'm still getting lowID with edonkey09:27
zordaFlannel:  where is that im sorry about my mega noobness09:27
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gnomefreakShadowpillar: yes it was a while ago (maybe a week)09:28
realfolkbluespiglit: i cant figure out this tut on doig it can anyone help me understand this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1465348#post146534809:28
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gnomefreakShadowpillar: there are already .debs for it09:28
Shadowpillargnomefreak: where?09:28
piglitnetG: try googel on amule and ports and firewall's09:28
mneptonnetG: hasn't the eDonkey network completely shut down?09:28
gnomefreak!flash9 | Shadowpillar09:28
ubotuShadowpillar: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)09:28
Shadowpillaronly drawback09:28
Shadowpillarno 64-bit09:29
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Shadowpillarand nspluginwrapper is buggy09:29
gnomefreakShadowpillar: never was never will be09:29
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Flannelzorda: open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, then paste the contens to that website09:29
Shadowpillargnomefreak: what?09:29
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zordaFlannel:  where is that list file at?09:30
gnomefreakShadowpillar: flash has no plans to make a 64bit version09:30
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realfolkbluesAlso how do i access my other harddrives it wont let me09:30
Shadowpillargnomefreak: that's a load of crap09:30
mneptongnomefreak: i thought Emmy's answer was "we'll see what things look like after the 32 bit version drops."09:30
gnomefreakShadowpillar: no its not09:31
Shadowpillaradobe has plans, but it'll be released later09:31
netGMy firewall ports are opened | also tried to stop firewall...09:31
zordadanm it i really REALY ned to read the manules09:31
Shadowpillargnomefreak: look up the penguin.swf blog09:31
netGbul still lowID , I think my provider has a NAT09:31
Shadowpillargnomefreak: "As I said before it is not a question of 'recompiling' the source code, there is lots of generic non platform specific work which needs to be finished first. We will ship a 64bit version for Windows, OS X Leopard and GNU/Linux. It will happen. When? ... When it is ready."09:31
ShadowpillarI dont see anything about "NEVER, WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT 64 BIT"09:32
gnomefreakShadowpillar: it wont be anytime soon09:32
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Shadowpillargnomefreak: I give it until january or feb09:32
Flannelzorda: /etc/apt/sources.list09:32
gnomefreaklol09:32
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mneptonShadowpillar: you also don;t see a release date or even a rough timetable. "when it's ready" can easil;y be "never."09:32
gnomefreakyour lucky if flash 9 is released by than09:32
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Shadowpillarwell, look bacl09:32
Shadowpillarback*09:33
[H] 3b0Rwill the release of firefox 2.0 include in edgy eft release?09:33
Shadowpillarflash 9 beta was to be released "when it's ready"09:33
Shadowpillar;)09:33
gnomefreak[H] 3b0R: yes09:33
Shadowpillarand lo and behold09:33
Flannel[H] 3b0R: yes, it already is.09:33
Shadowpillarmeans they have plans09:33
gnomefreak[H] 3b0R: there already09:33
zordaFlannel:  where is /etc/apt/sources.list?09:33
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Flannelzorda: /etc/apt/sources.list (that's a file path)09:33
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gnomefreakShadowpillar: flash9 will be released in 200709:33
[H] 3b0Rgnomefreak, flannel: why havent i got update yet?09:33
Flannelzorda: ctrl-f2, then type this: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:33
gnomefreak[H] 3b0R: for what?09:33
gnomefreak[H] 3b0R: are you on edgy?09:34
Flannelzorda: er, alt-f2 sorry09:34
[H] 3b0Rgnomefreak: yes09:34
Flannelzorda: it'll bring up a 'run' dialog thing09:34
gnomefreak[H] 3b0R: it will be rc 2 as final release for edgy09:34
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zordaflannel whoa this linux is usefull09:34
nomad111hey all im in deep trouble is there a way for me to  revert a file in xubuntu09:34
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bioshaternomad111: which one?09:34
gnomefreak[H] 3b0R: join #ubuntu+1 okease for edgy09:34
nomad111the menu.xml file09:35
nomad111for my applications menu09:35
nomad111in xfce09:35
[H] 3b0Rgnomefreak: oh ok09:35
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nomad111i did edit menu and press something and closed quickly and then next thing i kno i cant open the applications menu or do right- click on the desktop09:35
Shadowpillargnomefreak: however, consider this, the fact Vista will be 64 bit, where their core market uses, means that the core interpreter (which is what holds them back atm) will have to upgraded09:35
nomad111is there a way to go back to default09:35
bioshaternomad111: where is it located?09:35
zordaFlannel:  i have pasted it at theat website09:35
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Flannelzorda: take the URL it gave you and paste it here ;)09:36
nomad111/home/prodigy/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml09:36
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Shadowpillarand 64 bit linux is ready, so there will be a 64 bit version, in fact this may spark its development for all future 64 bit systems09:36
zordaFlannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27939/09:36
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nomad111bioshater, /home/prodigy/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml09:36
realfolkbluesi have a question, if i mount a ntfs partition can i edit the contents or just read em? i'm getting mixed answers09:36
Shadowpillarso I dont think adobe is not gonna ever have 64 bit support like you're saying09:36
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zordarealfolkblues:  both i just did it myself09:37
Madpilotrealfolkblues, by default, read-only for NTFS; there are various writing options, not all safe09:37
nomad111realfolkblues, u could get a tool to edit them but its dangerous09:37
Shadowpillarin fact, adobe seems to be more linux friendly than macromedia ever was09:37
bioshaternomad111: just booted the live cd. i don't have this file in /home/ubuntu/.config/xfce4/desktop09:37
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netGnomad111 , do you whant to get default menu settings?09:37
Flannelzorda: well, the us mirror sometimes goes down, it might be that.  I can't see any repositories there that scream broken though.09:37
nomad111yes please09:37
teledynanyone had success building vmware modules for edgy kernel?09:37
nomad111netG, that would perfect09:37
bioshaternomad111: i don't even have the desktop dir in there09:37
nomad111lol09:37
realfolkbluesmadewokherd: so is there a way to make my ntfs into fat or somthing else so i can access em?09:37
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nomad111netG, the default layout would be fine like if u can have it in a pastebin09:38
nomad111and link me09:38
nomad111coz i just did a fresh install of xubuntu09:38
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netGnomad111 : you have to logout , access console fron GDM , remove the menu.xml file and then login in XFCE09:38
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nomad111ah k ill give it a shot09:38
Shadowpillargnomefreak: of course, arent you the one who was arguing with me a few weeks back that flash 9 beta would be released next september?09:38
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zordaok FLannel thanks for helpng but i need NEED to go and read the maules09:39
gnomefreakShadowpillar: no i told you it would be released in 2007 it was supposed to be release in sept 2006 but fell behind09:39
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zordai never read manules09:39
zorda....never..09:39
zordabut in this case i have too09:39
gnomefreakShadowpillar: this os very offtopic for this channel please move it to one of the -offtopic channels09:39
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Shadowpillarnot what you originally said but anyway off to other things09:40
Flannelzorda: help.ubuntu.com has a lot of information09:40
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realfolkbluesso how do i mount an ntfs hard drive so i can get my data off b4 i reformat it?09:42
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Ackart-The-FoxHoo boy. Okay, I'm trying to get an internal dial up modem working with Ubuntu. I'm completely lost.09:42
Flannel!ntfs09:42
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:42
bioshaterzorda: in linux you have to read manuals at least for command line tools. but it's really worth it.09:42
mneptonAckart-The-Fox: my gues is that you don;t have a modem, but a cheap sound card disguised as a "modem" (i.e. a Winmodem)09:43
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Ackart-The-FoxMost likely.09:43
Ackart-The-FoxIt came out of a Dell. It'll be the bottom-of-the-barrel cheap.09:44
mneptonit's a PCI card?09:44
Ackart-The-FoxYep.09:44
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bioshater.oO(and dell came out of hell)09:45
mneptonAckart-The-Fox: it's possible to get some Winmodems working, but it's ugly. the best bet is to just buy an honest-to-god external hardware modem.09:45
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Ackart-The-FoxFantastic. If I had money, I'd buy a wireless card and use the ~real~ internet in this house. >.<09:46
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zordahey umm what file typw is that foot?09:47
mneptokAckart-The-Fox: PCI wifi cards are uber-cheap. less than a modem.09:47
zordalike a exe eqvalint?09:47
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Ackart-The-FoxYeah, I know.09:47
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bh__Is there's a FAQ on getting Macro Media Flash installed ?>09:47
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susscorfa!flash09:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:48
bh__thanks09:49
susscorfanp09:49
zordaaww09:49
zordai want doom@09:49
poningru!doom09:49
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:49
zordathak ye09:49
KenSentMeHow do i share my printer over the network to other Ubuntu clients?09:50
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zordawhoa so there are games to be played here09:51
zorda...........09:51
zordanet split?09:51
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zordacan i open .tar.gz files on ubuntu?09:52
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Skyggeyes....09:52
zordathank you09:52
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zordawhoa they had unix in the '60s?09:53
timhaughtonWhenever I try to configure my MultiTail gDesklet, the Python proc goes to 100% processor usage and I have to kill it. Anyone else see similar behaviour?09:53
zordahmm09:53
Ackart-The-FoxWell, thanks for your help, mneptok. I'll just throw Windows on that box until I can get the wireless card.09:54
LookTJhmmmm09:54
SkyggeDoes anyone know how to start azureus over ssh remotely? if I try to just open it, with or without the "&", it gives errors about swt widgets etc.09:54
bioshaterzorda: if you plan to build some program from source (compiling), better look for a prebuilt package that can be installed with the package manager09:54
Skyggeunix has been around almost as long as computers09:54
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zordahmm09:54
bioshaterzorda: building from source should be the last resort, if no packaged version is available09:55
zordaumm09:55
zordaim just tring to geta game...09:55
zordayou mean im dling code?09:55
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Skyggesource = code09:56
bioshaterzorda: not downloading it yourself. if there is a package, the package manager does that for you09:56
mbetonhow can I play avi files in totem?09:56
mbetonwhat am I to install?09:57
mbeton!avi09:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:57
bioshaterzorda: read about enabling package repositories, enable them and try to install the game from the repos09:57
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bioshater!repositories09:57
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:57
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bioshaterzorda: read the URL ubotu pasted09:58
mbetonbtw how can I copy past sth into terminal?09:58
mbeton(paste)09:58
bioshatermbeton: mark text with the left mouse button, paste it with the middle button09:59
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bioshatermbeton: but don't paste multiple lines here, use pastebin instead09:59
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mbetonbioshater: no, I wanted to execute some script and I didn't want to copy all the text manually10:00
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bioshatermbeton: ah okay10:00
KenSentMeHow do i share my printer over the network to other Ubuntu clients?10:01
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teledynanyone had success building vmware modules for edgy kernel?10:02
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Rondomteledyn: have you applied the vmware-any-any-patch?10:04
teledynRondom: no.  never heard of it.10:04
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momalanyone know a way to can make every program in ubuntu (includeing console programs) to use a specified proxy? (so all network traffic(to the internet) to be put through the proxy)10:04
zorda!mp310:05
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teledynRondom: aha.  http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=76957&tstart=0      thanks.10:06
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zordaCRAP am i gonna have to convert ALL of my stuff to ogg!??!?!?!10:06
Rondomteledyn: yes, that's the patch I meant.10:06
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Madpilotzorda, no, you can get mp3 playing10:07
Madpilotzorda, read the first link in the blurb you got the bot to produce there...10:08
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zordaholybatman crap10:10
ragRadio of your wireless card is off10:10
zordathey have a keenote speaker for a pic showing the player!10:10
ragradio off, how to activate it, i dont remember how to, echo 1 ... > file10:10
teledynRondom: woohoo!  it compiled.10:11
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zordawell so how long until the noob feeling wears off?10:12
zordaa month?10:13
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imhotepphow can I easily append paths to my $PATH var?10:13
imhoteppI tried using .bash_profile to no avail :(10:13
raghow to activate wifi on boot?10:14
ragplease10:14
Madpilotzorda, depends on how deep you get into Ubuntu & Linux. You can arrange to have the "noob feeling" never wear off :)10:14
ragon laptop without bios config possible10:14
teledynimhotepp: ~/.bash_profile should be sourced10:15
teledynimhotepp: does the path show up if you manually source it?10:15
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zordaMadpilot:  OH TEH NOTES!10:15
imhotepp"manually source" = export PATH=$PATH:/my/path?10:16
zordaMad ^_^10:16
teledynimhotepp: source ~/.bash_profile10:16
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teledynor just . ~/.bash_profile10:16
imhoteppshouldnt it be automagically executed on login?10:16
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wickedpuppy imhotepp i suggest .bashrc10:17
teledynimhotepp: yeah but we're trying to rule things out here.  so first find out if it picks it up when you manually source it10:17
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tox--I am trying to install edgy on a dell gx620, X fails to start, i read that modifying xorg.conf and assing vesa should work to get it installed, but i can't login, is there a default user that i could logon as?10:18
imhoteppteledyn:yes it does10:18
tox--s/assing/adding10:18
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wickedpuppytox--, #ubuntu+1 , there is a default user of course .... the user that you configured while installing ... unless you never get that stage10:19
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teledynimhotepp: odd that its not being sourced when you login.  you could put it in ~/.bashrc or /etc/profile if you want it system-wide10:19
inglorhey, I'm having some problems with my wlan10:19
inglorI can't get it to work10:19
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inglorthe wlan card doesn't pick up any networks, it used to work fine before10:20
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tox--wickedpuppy: i can't start X to get it installed, thats the problem10:20
raginglor: use iwconfig to see what network is associated10:20
teledyninglor: wlanassistant does that to me often.  i find that using iwconfig on the command line is much more reliable.10:20
tox--and I can't boot in safe graphics either10:20
wickedpuppytox--, tried dapper live cd ? or knoppix ?10:20
teledyninglor: and use iwlist to scan10:21
ingloryeah, I use iwconfig10:21
raginglor, and?10:21
inglorthe network is associated with nothing, and iwlist returns nothing10:21
inglorwindows finds the network just fine10:21
tox--wickedpuppy: i want to use edgy, and i am using the edgy-desktopi386.iso cd10:21
raginglor, ok what card do you have? lspci10:21
raglspci10:21
wickedpuppytox--, edgy still in beta ... are you aware of it ?10:21
teledyninglor: maybe you need to set the roaming option with iwpriv?  just a guess?10:21
wickedpuppyunless it is officially out while i was sleeping10:22
inglorlemme check10:22
tox--wickedpuppy: yeah I know that, i was just asking if theres a way to edit the xorg on the livecd, so I can start X to get it installed10:22
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wickedpuppytox--, its rare that X can't start on the livecd .... i suggest you try other live cds first10:23
timhaughtonIs there any way to specify a maximum size for the .Trash folder?10:23
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tox--yeah, i read that edgy has a problem with ati x600, which im using, and they said that editing the xorg.conf should work, thats why i need the login info to be able to edit the file :p10:24
wickedpuppytox--, try root10:25
mneptontox--: so boot the desktop CD, mount the / filesystem on the drive, and then edit xorg.conf10:25
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mneptons/drive/hard\ drive/10:25
shriphanimnepton, am getting new hardware... should i get an amd or an intel ?10:26
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wickedpuppymnepton, then how does he save the edited xorg on the cd ? can it be done ?10:26
tox--ofc not10:26
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tox--i just read that using the alternate cd has a text install, that should do the trick10:26
wickedpuppythen whats the point of editing something you can't save ?10:26
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wickedpuppytox--, yes it does ..10:27
tox--maybe it put the xorg on a ramdrive, then i can edit it10:27
tox--but i can't login10:27
tox--:p10:27
wickedpuppytox--, root ...10:27
wickedpuppytried it yet ?10:27
mneptonwickedpuppy: he saves it to the mounted file system10:27
mneptonshriphani: what's the intended use of this machine?10:27
Gnomer__>:D @ mnepton10:28
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shriphanimnepton, i want to use it to learn about comps10:28
rvallesI'd love to have Xorg 7.1 on my Dapper. Is that available in any apt repository?10:28
shriphanii have a lappy now which i wanna leave alone10:29
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mneptonamber alert! Gnomer__ has wandered off! anyone seeing a sarcastic, bitter nerd is asked to notify authorities and not dispense any caffiene or processed sucrose!10:29
rvalles(I'm having trouble with synaptics and think this may help fix my issues)10:29
Gnomer__mnepton, Ze precious!10:29
tox--wickedpuppy: was the first account i tried10:29
Gnomer__Rofl, just coming to say hi mnepton10:29
mneptonshriphani: the big drawback to AMD64 on the desktop is a lack of a Flash plugin or Win32 media codecs (if that's, indeed, a drawback)10:29
schreuhi, does anyone know a calendar application that imports .ics files, not evolution or thunderbird plugins10:30
rvallesmnepton: no caffeine, no sugar?10:30
Gnomer__Got a VNC guy on right now, gotta bail. So hi!10:30
rvallesmnepton: this is inhuman, too cruel.10:30
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wickedpuppytox--, and it doesn't work ? ubuntu ? i am brainstorming the names btw :P10:30
tox--wickedpuppy: tried that as well10:30
shriphanimnepton, i think i can install the i386 version in a chroot10:30
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mneptonshriphani: sure, or install the i386 version instead of AMD64.10:30
wickedpuppytox--, well then you can complain about this in #ubuntu+1 :P10:31
variantmnepton: yeah you can install 32bit versions in chroot10:31
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Link9618How do I install firestarter?10:31
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variantLink9618: apt-get install firestarter10:31
tox--what is #ubuntu+1 for?10:31
mneptontox--: Edgy10:31
varianttox--: development version10:31
tonyyarussotox--: Edgy discussion10:31
nomad111am i doing something wrong or are all the packages in synaptics out of date with current software version10:31
Link9618It's not in the repositories10:31
nomad111s10:31
nomad111ie OpenOffice and eclipse10:31
tonyyarusso!universe | Link961810:31
ubotuLink9618: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:31
noiawhere can I find the error log of X ?10:32
variantnoia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:32
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tonyyarussonomad111: Depends how out of date they are.  Normally things won't be updated after a release except for security fixes.10:33
wickedpuppynoia, almost all logs are in /var/log :P10:33
Link9618explain that agian10:33
variant!easysource10:33
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:33
tonyyarussonomad111: LTS releases however, are a little different.  So, if you're running dapper, they should be at the versions from the first maintenance release, which I believe was in July/early august perhaps.10:33
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inglorhey, sorry, my internet hung up10:33
inglorstill can't get my wireless card to work properly10:34
mbetonI installed w32codecs and did rm -rf ~/.gstreamer-0.10 but I still can't play avi files:(10:34
seshomaruhi - im in the middle of a big download (thru apt-get) but we will have a power cut soon and i am wondering will i have redownload everything if the power goes down before the download is complete?10:34
tonyyarussoLink9618: You likely aren't seeing them in the repos b/c you don't have all the repos enabled.  Those instructions tell you how to get all repos.10:34
nomad111tonyyarusso, well for example in my synaptic package manager it has eclipse 3.1.2 when the current version is 3.2.something and yes im using 6.0.6LTS10:34
variantseshomaru: it will resume10:34
tonyyarusso!info eclipse dapper10:34
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ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB10:34
wickedpuppymbeton, all i did was install gstreamer and vlc and i been playing avi for ages10:34
tonyyarussonomad111: You have what you should have.10:34
Link9618How10:34
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shriphanidash it the box hung10:34
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seshomaruvariant, thanks a lot!10:35
American-TechI need help with sound10:35
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shriphanimnepton, you say i must install the i386 on a 64 bit amd ?10:35
seshomaruvariant, let me see if i understand correctly - after the i restart the computer , i need to give apt the exact same commands and it will continue from where it was when the power went down?10:36
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mbetonhow can I install gstreamer?10:36
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mbetonapt-get install gstreamer doesn't work10:36
mbeton!gstreamer10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
American-TechI installed ubuntu and have all the latest updates. IT list my sound device but there is no sound10:36
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tonyyarussoseshomaru: Yep10:37
Arcad3mbeton:10:37
seshomarutonyyarusso, thanks!10:37
Arcad3all the codecs10:37
Arcad3or just gtreamer?10:37
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mbetonArcad3: all the codecs including10:37
Rejogoodmorning10:37
tonyyarussombeton: See various pieces on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, or just sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-* I suppose10:37
Arcad3sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \ gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \ gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse w32codecs10:38
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Arcad3got that mbeton?10:38
Link9618And then I'll be able to download firestarter and Gnome-mud?10:38
mneptonshriphani: you don;t have to, but it saves installing a chroot10:38
shriphanimnepton, its like pop it in and run it ?10:38
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shriphanimnepton, is it as simple as installing it on an intel10:39
mbetonArcad3: not, it doesn't work (command not found)10:39
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Arcad3change the repositories10:40
mneptonshriphani: yup10:40
mbetonArcad3: Aucune version du paquet gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg n'est disponible, mais il existe dans la base10:40
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mnepton!fr > mbeton10:40
shriphanimnepton, so i dont need that 64 bit cd10:40
mbetonArcad3: how can I change the repositories?10:40
Arcad3wait10:40
mneptonshriphani: need? no.10:40
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mbetonmnepton: It was the error message I got10:40
Arcad3http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories10:40
shriphanimnepton, what about the apps10:41
Rejosituation: lost root password, no other users, running dapper; when booting with "single" etc, I still need to enter root password, when booting with "single init=/bin/sh" i get a prompt tells me at passwd "authentication service cannot retrieve atuhentication info" - any clue?10:41
mneptonshriphani: you'll use i386 versions. it all "just works."10:41
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nomad111is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude10:41
shriphanimnepton, what are the advantages of using the 64 bit ubuntu as opposed to the 32 bit10:41
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mneptonshriphani: few, unless you have >/=4GB of memory10:42
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FallenHitokirievery gtk-theme i install isn't drawn correctly. it looks like the default gtk-scrollbars (for example) are used instread of the images in the theme. i tryed this with 2 different themes on 2 different systems (both edgy) what can i do?10:42
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Link9618I saw nothing at the links you gave me10:42
noiacan anyone here help with xgl problems?10:42
shriphanimnepton, care to mention one if i am not irritating you10:42
nomad111!gksudo10:43
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}10:43
LynoureFallenHitokiri: better edgy help is still on #ubuntu+110:43
mneptonshriphani: one what? advantage? *slightly* faster code xecution.10:43
mnepton+e10:43
FallenHitokiriLynoure: thanks10:43
shriphanimnepton, oh10:43
nomad111!aptitude10:43
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide10:43
Arcad3how to make a shortcut?10:44
nomad111so aptitude is better than apt-get10:44
shriphaniand this shows up just when my drive size runs in excess of 4 gigs ?10:44
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shriphaniArcad3, ln -s10:44
Link9618?10:44
American-TechI need help getting sound to work10:44
mneptonshriphani: i said memory, not drive size ;)10:44
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shriphanimnepton, ahh10:44
Rejono one here to give me a small hint in solving this password problem?10:44
mneptonRejo: boot off CD and use the rescue mode10:44
shriphanii might get a 2 gig ram but no way 4 gig10:44
Rejomnepton: ack will try - it's a dapper server install, does it matter which cd i use and also, it's having raid1 config, would that be an additional hurdle?10:45
Arcad3thanks shriphani10:46
cafuegoRejo: password problem?10:46
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Rejocafuego: see about 50 lines above10:46
Link9618I can't update my list of programs to add or remove10:46
Link9618I saw nothing at the links you gave me10:46
cafuegoRejo: Did you manually inspect /etc/passwd and /et/shadow to make sure the info for root is there?10:47
KenSentMeRejo: can you choose the rescue mode in grub?10:47
mneptonRejo: jusdt use your server install CD10:47
cafuegoRejo: (The init=/bin/sh is indeed the easiest way)10:47
Link9618?10:47
Rejocafuego: that wont work10:47
shriphanimnepton, then to bug myself can i put the amd64 kernel in an i386 install ?10:47
jendaWhere are the desktop backgrounds stored?10:47
Rejocafuego: that will still ask me for a root password10:47
mneptonshriphani: no10:47
shriphanihmm10:47
Rejocafuego: it's just on dapper the usual doesn't work10:48
shriphanimnepton, wait.... i plan to run this box on vnc10:48
cafuegoRejo: No, just boots you right into a shell running as root.10:48
shriphaniso i got no screen there10:48
noiaI'v installed Xgl, but when I go to log into the Xgl server, it stalls and then throws an error message saying the session logged out in under 10 seconds etc...any ideas?10:48
Rejocafuego: no, it doesn't, it tells me to give root passwd or ctrl-d to continue10:48
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cafuegoRejo: Not if you boot with init=/bin/sh and _not_ recovery mode.10:49
shriphanimnepton, so i think flash and w32 codecs aint a necessity10:49
RejoKenSentMe: rescue mode in KenSentMe still requires me to give root password10:49
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Rejocafuego: sure it does.10:49
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Rejocafuego: i have tried it of course, otherwise i wouldt even come here...10:50
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cafuegoRejo: No, if you boot 'linux-foo-version root=/dev/blah init=/bin/sh' it does *NOT* ask for any passwords.10:50
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Rejocafuego: i will try again as soon as i amnout this rescue disc mode10:51
Rejocafuego: i am sure it does10:51
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cafuegoRejo: it can't, as it doesn't run code that would ask for passwords. init does that, sh does not.10:51
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shriphanicafuego, i got a few things to ask you10:51
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cafuegoshriphani: cafuego is not currently in - leave a message after the ^G10:51
Rejocafuego: the only moment i don't get a password request is whenever i run "init=/bin/sh single" - but than i get the other error (presumebly because /. is mounted readonly and i cannot remount it rw)10:52
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cafuegoRejo: Nobody said you needed 'single' in there. You can remount / read-write easily enough though. 'mount -n -o remount,rw  /'10:52
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Rejothat didnt work, but hold on, rebooting now10:53
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shriphanii plan to run an amd box with vnc (aint getting the screen)...... i am getting a linksys router and a cat 5 cable for it. what all do i need to put on my box ?10:53
cafuegoRejo: 'single' is a param for '/sbin/init' (tells it to run recovery mode and asks for password). init=/bin/sh bypasses /sbin/init altogether.10:53
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The_Cre10:53
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Rejocafuego: i now am in grub edit mode. first kernel edit, not the resue one, i now add "init=/bin/sh" at the end. line now is "kernel $kernel root=/dev/md2 ro quiet splash init=/bin/sh". right?10:54
Rejov10:55
cafuegoRejo: Aaah I see.10:55
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Rejocafuego: other lines are root (hd0,0) ; initrd $initrd ; savedefault and boot10:55
Rejocafuego: that is right?10:55
American-TechLooking for help getting sound enabled10:55
cafuegoRejo: "kernel $kernel root=/dev/md2 ro init=/bin/sh"10:56
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Rejocafuego: ok. mmt. will change and boot.10:56
noiacan anyone help with Xgl woes?10:56
cafuegoRejo: I *think* it will mount the raid stuff via the initrd ...10:56
cafuegonoia: #ubuntu-gxl10:56
shriphanicafuego, umm my last post was addressed to you10:56
Rejocafuego: it will10:56
cafuegoshriphani: vncserver and ssh :-)10:57
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noiacafuego: thats all well and fine but theres no one active >.<10:57
Rejocafuego: now i don;t get a primpt. still need to remount root, one moment10:57
shriphanicafuego, i am not establishing a network here10:57
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shriphanithe box is gonna sit beside me10:57
shriphaniso why do i need ssh10:57
cafuegoshriphani: well, the amd will run vncserver and whatever you use as client would have vncviewer. 9ssh is always handy)10:58
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Arcad3how to change file owner os a file10:58
Rejocafuego: root partition is mounted correctly ii believe (rw, errors=remount-ro)10:58
cafuegoRejo: Ok, can you run 'mount -n -o remount,rw /'  ?10:58
Rejocafuego: when chaing password it now says: authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info10:58
Rejocafuego: i did10:58
shriphanicafuego, what do i type in a terminal to use vnc ?10:59
cafuegoRejo: Ok, check /etc/passwd for a properly formed line for root.10:59
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cafuegoshriphani: Start the vncserver (vncserver --help) on the amd, then run 'vncviewer <server ip>'10:59
cafuegoshriphani: it will ask you for your password.11:00
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shriphanicafuego, thx11:00
shriphanigoodbye folks11:00
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Rejocafuego: /etc/passwd was allright, /etc/shadow- i have removed the chars between second and third colon11:00
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cafuegoRejo: So you have "root::13402:0:99999:7:::" now? (with different numbers...)11:01
Rejocafuego: mmm... one more try11:02
xsachahi there... i added this 32-bit rep to my sources list and then updates, but then i realised i wanted 64-bit version, so i added 64-bit version and then updated.. how do i remove the 32-bit entries that were updated?11:02
cafuegoRejo: /etc/shadow-  is a BACKUP, check /etc/shadow11:02
Rejocafuego: aah. /etc/shadow seems to be empty.11:02
xsachaor did the 64-bit ones go over the top? im not sure11:02
raghow to install network manager , software name?11:03
cafuegoRejo: That will be the problem then.11:03
Rejocafuego: one moment... booting11:03
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cafuegoRejo: Just copy the backup back :-)11:03
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Rejocafuego: that is not that easy11:03
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Rejocafuego: when doint an ls -la it says input/output error11:04
HapoI have had a weird problem after upgrading from dapper to edgy. after the boot sequence my screen goes black and nothing happens. when I switch to a virtual text console and then back to the X console, X begins to start up... with might be the problem here?11:04
Rejocafuego: when ls'ing i see   "r-------- ? ? ? ? shadow"11:04
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Rejocafuego: as i don;t understand where that comes from, i think i will do a fresh install11:05
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cafuegoRejo: ouch11:05
noiano-one here can help with xgl problems?11:05
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Rejocafuego: input/output error due to ro fs, fixed this, now one last attempt in reboot11:06
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Rejocafuego: if doesnt work i will do a fresh install too avoid any future problems11:07
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Rejocafuego: thank you for you help anywat11:07
davvshow can i re-read the /etc/network/interfaces file? restart the daemon?11:07
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American-TechLookiing for help with getting sound working11:07
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jendaWhere are the desktop backgrounds stored?11:09
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l3onhi11:10
gnomefreakjenda: /usr/share?11:10
gnomefreak/usr/share/wallpapers/All-Good-People-1.jpg  is one11:11
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Rejocafuego: oke, i have it back running11:11
gnomefreaklocate only shows usr/share and /var/docs11:11
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Rejocafuego: ty11:11
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jendagnomefreak: got it - /usr/share/backgrounds11:13
jendathanks11:13
gnomefreakyw11:13
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American-TechLooking help getting sound working..11:13
joonadavvs: /etc/init.d/networking restart11:13
davvsthanks joona :-)11:14
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joonano prob11:14
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l3onAnyone know command line to set a directory thumbnail ?11:15
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lazzarethGday world11:17
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lazzarethI need an application that can record what windows calls "what you hear" or PCM, only about 10 seconds or so with simple cropping abilities ?11:18
l3onlazzareth, ???11:18
lazzarethhey?11:18
lazzarethGday11:18
lazzarethDo I know you?11:18
Hapoat least audacity can do that, but you need to run it through aoss11:19
Hapoand enable the setting "stereo mix" in the mixer11:19
lazzarethHapo, Yes, i think my problem last time was that .. well i wasnt running it through aoss11:19
lazzarethOk, Ill let you know if i run into any problems11:19
American-TechLooking for help with sound problems11:20
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Rookie_!ask11:21
lazzarethHapo Where is the Mixer Options?11:22
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Hapolazzareth: just click on the small speaker icon in the lower-right corner of the screen.11:24
HapoI can't help you much with gnome as I'm using KDE11:24
Haposo you have to wait for others to reply :/11:24
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lazzarethSo the settings not in audacity11:24
Hapono11:25
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l3on!repeat11:25
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lazzarethok, But it still wont let me record in the meanwhile .. im recording from the device /dev/dsp    which is the only one listed11:26
fatbrainIs there someway to reset the password for the keyring?11:26
crewhey, quick question.. how do you reset apache2?11:26
Terminuscrew: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart11:26
gnomefreakcrew: reset like restart?11:26
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crewthanks :)11:26
Terminuscrew: or do you mean reset the config to defaults?11:26
crewgnome; yeah11:26
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gnomefreaksudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart will also work11:27
crewTerminus, no your right.. just to restart it... had changed some things and they hadn't taken effect11:27
l3onAnyone know as to set an directory icon ?11:27
Terminusyeah but invoke-rc.d is the canonical way. =D11:27
crewgnomefreak, that sounds easier :P11:27
crewTerminus, any difference?11:27
gnomefreakno it does same thing crew just different command11:28
Terminuscrew: not really. invoke-rc.d is more like a wrapper script.11:28
crewhmm11:28
crewstill didnt work anyway :P11:28
gnomefreakthe commands didnt work or it didnt fix what you thought was the issue?11:29
crewwas editing /etc/apache2/apache2.conf11:29
crewwas trying to have index.php above index.html11:29
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estHi all11:29
crewcommands worked... what i was doing prior didnt11:29
crewhi11:29
Terminuscrew: put it before index.html in the Directory Index.11:29
crewyeah i did "S11:30
crew:S11:30
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Terminuscrew: is mod_php loaded? check your /etc/apache/mods-enabled/11:30
crewmmm...11:30
crewmaybe not11:30
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mneptondid you install mod_php?11:30
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estI tried to install Kubuntu 6.10 but I found the Chinese chrarctors not complete. What can I  do?11:30
mneptonit is not included with the PHP packages11:30
gnomefreakest: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy11:31
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estsome charactors are replaced by a dot11:31
Terminuscrew: php4/5 should have AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 in php?.conf11:31
crew/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$ ls11:31
crewcgi.load   perl.load  php5.load     userdir.load11:31
crewperl.conf  php5.conf  userdir.conf11:31
ragwhich is wifi channel on ubuntu, is there?11:31
ragplease11:31
crewTerminus, confusing :S11:31
KenSentMerag: what do you mean? A irc channel on wifi support in ubuntu?11:32
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ragKenSentMe: both11:32
Terminuscrew: it should just work. tried creating index.php with <?php phpinfo(); ?> ?11:32
crewTerminus, ah yeah i understand now... it does have that exact line11:32
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crewTerminus, what do you mean by <?php phpinfo(); ?> ?11:33
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Terminuscrew: that should generate a webpage with the php configuration.11:33
wickedpuppycrew, try it11:34
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crewif i just type http://ipaddress/index.php it shows... but i dont want to have to keep writing that11:34
wickedpuppybtw it should be the first php lesson on most php books11:34
porkpie__hi guy's ...just trying to install ubuntu on my old sony vaio and it seems to hang when loading hardware drivers ??11:34
crewjust want to type http://ipaddress11:34
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wickedpuppycrew, then just ipaddress ? i never have to type index.php11:35
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crewwickedpuppy, yeah i know... i had it working a while back with 5.04, but i reinstalled with 5.1011:35
crewhad trouble since11:36
Terminuscrew: it should do that if you don't put a .html file in root dir anyway.11:36
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wickedpuppycrew, i suggest #php11:36
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crewmmm... yeah11:37
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porkpie__crew:is apache running11:37
crewwickedpuppy, my original question was related.... just strayed11:37
crewporkpie, heh.. yeah11:38
wickedpuppycrew, pardon me .. i didn't read your original question11:38
cjariHi, I'm trying to make a boot disk which allows to start installing ubuntu over network and as far as i understand I need bootdisk.img and drvnet.img files first, where do you optain these?11:38
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Wheelybin!ftp11:38
porkpie__crew:what are you trying to do ??11:38
crewwickedpuppy, original has been sorted.. was just trying to find how to get *.php above *.html11:39
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crewthink i may have found the cause of the problem htough11:39
simeon#php11:39
mneptoncrew: sounds like apache is looking for index.html before index.php or you have MIME type settings problems or you have fixed these things but have not restarted apache11:39
porkpie__guy's why is the livecd hanging when loading hardware drivers11:39
crewdamned cahce11:39
Terminuscrew: it should just be DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.cgi index.pl index.xhtml11:40
davvswhy is not my encryption key(specified in "/etc/network/interfaces") set when my computer starts, but it is set when i restart the service with "/etc/init.d/networking restart"11:40
crewcache was the problem11:40
Terminuscrew: oh... cache! hahaha11:40
Terminuscrew: forgot to refresh? :)11:40
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asad2005I have aproblem installing edgy rc from live cd gui installer, is there atext based installer that i can use11:40
crewTerminus, nah i was refreshing... just using firefox under windows pc to check....11:40
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KenSentMeasad2005: use the alternate cd11:40
KenSentMeasad2005: it's a text based installer11:41
Terminusasad2005: for edgy problems, you might have a better chance in #ubuntu+111:41
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asad2005KenSentMe, thanks11:41
crewTerminus, gnomefreak, wickedpuppy, porkpie, mnepton; thank you for your help :)11:42
Terminuscrew: you're welcome. =)11:42
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wickedpuppycrew, i didn't do much ... :P11:42
crewwickedpuppy, responded :) i was asking a question a fortnight ago without luck :P11:43
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crewporkpie, on viao? thought it was hard to install on that machine?11:45
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mneptonporkpie__: md5sum your .iso and burn at </= 8x speed?11:45
porkpie__crew:dunno11:45
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porkpie__mnepton:it was burnt at 8x11:46
mneptonporkpie__: and md5summed?11:46
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porkpie__mnepton:I didn't md5    how do I do that11:46
wickedpuppymd5sum file.iso11:47
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wickedpuppyand you will get the md5 sum of the iso .. compare it with the sum on the site11:47
porkpie__I am using windows XP11:47
mneptonporkpie__: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso11:47
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porkpie__mnepton:where do I get md5summer.exe11:49
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{_-IcE-_}hey guys, im kinda new on ubuntu... tried to install my hp1215 driver to get it running on the network but failed, removed all i did and reinstalled the hplip packages just in case.. but now when i try install the driver it says blablabla.ppd driver is already installed. how can i remove it pls to have it reinstalled?11:52
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Rookie_Use synaptic to install and remove11:55
Rookie_or if you like, apt-get install / remove11:55
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Terminus{_-IcE-_}: you could try purging it. aptitude purge $package11:56
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oyvinhoiHow can I get flash to work on 64-bit ubuntu ?11:57
oyvinhoiin firefox11:57
Terminusafter purging, check the dirs where the ppd might be, like /etc/cups/ppd/ and /usr/share/cups/model11:57
{_-IcE-_}hmm, hpijs is the only i found11:58
{_-IcE-_}removing...11:58
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{_-IcE-_}lemme try again11:58
mneptonoyvinhoi: use the 32 bit plugin wrapper or chroot a 32 bit Firefox instance11:59
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: btw, cups by default only allows access from localhost. you have to explicitly tell it to Accept From @LOCAL for networking to work.11:59
oyvinhoimnepton: Where can I find the 32 bit plugin wrapper then+11:59
oyvinhoi?'11:59
{_-IcE-_}no use ... still says its already installed :@11:59
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{_-IcE-_}lets try purge12:00
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: you can find out what's installed through dpkg -l|grep hplip12:00
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Terminusreplace hplip if you want hpijs12:00
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noiais there a way to upgrade my ubuntu to edgy?12:00
{_-IcE-_}well, hplip just returns the normal hplips i reinstalled, hpijs returns nothing12:01
mneptonoyvinhoi: Google returned this as a first result for "32 bit plugin firefox ubuntu" - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193893&page=712:01
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: to save you time, if all your workstations are windows xp boxen, you don't need to configure samba for sharing printers. windows xp supports printing to http so all you have to do is configure cups.12:01
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{_-IcE-_}Terminus: i got samba configured already with filesharing, so adding a printer share *shouldnt* be a problem12:01
{_-IcE-_}problem is that i cannot get it installed correctly12:02
Terminusnoia: replace all instances of dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list with edgy and run aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade. be sure to read the release notes for edgy in case there're special cases before upgrading.12:02
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: did you check compatibility issues at linuxprinting.org?12:02
shah02if i have intel graphics i don't need to download any drivers right (like nvidia-glx for nvidia cards or fgl** for ati???)12:03
oyvinhoio012:03
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: just letting you know. i got printer sharing working perfectly without samba. =)12:03
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{_-IcE-_}Terminus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters12:04
{_-IcE-_}thats the guide i was following12:04
{_-IcE-_}i just screwed up in the middle and cant get it completely removed in order to try again12:04
{_-IcE-_}hehe12:04
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starsky_hutchy!mplayer12:04
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile12:04
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.12:04
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: dpkg -l|grep hplip || dpkg -l|grep hpijs to check if both are still installed, if not, just purge them. =)12:05
Terminusand then reinstall12:05
porkpie__mnepton:the md5 check is OK ...12:06
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{_-IcE-_}Terminus: that returns the 3 hplip packages the guide says u should install at the beginning, so seems ok12:06
j-jhey im trying to rip a cd with sound juicer but there is no way to get the track info off the net is there a way or another program or will i have to put it in manually??12:06
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porkpie__mnepton:are you saying I should try and burn another cd ......I have tried kubuntu on this laptop as well and it hangs at the same please12:07
starsky_hutchyubotu, this wiki is unmaintained https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto12:07
starsky_hutchyubotu, please correct it.12:08
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: i don't see anything about installing 3 packages in this page you gave me. only hpoj.12:08
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American-TechLooking for getting sound working12:09
starsky_hutchyanyone here look after ubotu ?12:09
Terminusoh wait... there's something here about hplib.12:09
American-Techfor help getting sound working12:09
oyvinhoimnepton: doesn't say what package it is.. Is it "nspluginwrapper"? In case it is, what repos?12:09
{_-IcE-_}im sure i seen it somewere o_o12:09
brynkcan anyone help me out on getting my printer to work?12:09
brynkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27840412:09
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Terminus{_-IcE-_}: i gave up on the PSC series before because of alignment issues. =(12:10
Terminus{_-IcE-_}: but it prints. all you have to do is configure cups properly.12:10
{_-IcE-_}uhm12:10
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{_-IcE-_}iceman@icebox:~$ sudo apt-get remove hplib12:10
{_-IcE-_}E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:10
{_-IcE-_}E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:10
{_-IcE-_}iceman@icebox:~$12:10
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Terminus{_-IcE-_}: are you running other instances of synaptic, aptitude, etc? package db is locked if those are running.12:11
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{_-IcE-_}geez, if i grep it finds it...12:12
{_-IcE-_}trying apt-get remove and it says package is not installed12:12
{_-IcE-_}:@12:12
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nomad111hey all wats a good laptop battery monitoring utility for xfce12:13
nomad111it suprised it didnt come with one12:13
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American-TechLooking for help getting sound working.12:13
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j-jhey im trying to rip a cd with sound juicer but there is no way to get the track info off the net is there a way or another program or will i have to put it in manually??12:16
{_-IcE-_}ok kinda got it installed but when trying to print a test page through webmin it just sits there being lazy and does nothing lol12:16
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wickedpuppyj-j, tried grip ?12:17
nomad111can any1 point me in the right direction?12:18
nomad111i really need a battery monitoring utility12:18
mneptonnomad111: before i go search Google for you, have you searched Google?12:18
j-jwickedpuppy, will try12:18
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_azraelHow does one fix getting the error: 8559d7f4432d6a80458fdcd14e8fe2d6  /tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.uR6038/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.sornreturn: 206: Illegal number: -112:19
_azraelOn attempting to install flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get12:19
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dr_nickhi12:22
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{_-IcE-_}does anyone have an idea what might cause webmin saying Failed to save printer : '/etc/cups/ppd/PSC-1210.ppd' does not exist ?? But if you browse to that location the file is there :S12:22
dr_nicki wonder if it's possible to store the ubuntu live cd on nfs and boot it over the network?12:23
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mnepton{_-IcE-_}: why are you using webmin and not GNOME's printer interface?12:23
{_-IcE-_}im trying on both to be honest12:24
mneptonuse the GNOME tools to add printers.12:24
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dr_nicki already use the netboot installer, but it wold be great to have a ubuntu desktop boot over the network. i'm not thinking thin clients, i'm using ubuntu to fix other people's systems, sometimes older computers w/ trouble booting from cdrom12:25
earthianhello does anybody know how could i contact a hardware monitor v1.2.1 creator and developer Ole Laursen ??12:25
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{_-IcE-_}mnepton: problem was that i did that, didnt work... when i went to reverse what i did to try again now it just keeps saying that the driver i selected is already installed and it wont let me12:25
earthianin irc maybe?12:25
{_-IcE-_}even tho i removed it12:25
kyjaall of a sudden my gnome-screensaver wont start12:26
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kyjahasn't for a few days now12:26
mnepton{_-IcE-_}" probably because you have used various mehtodologies, and now they have stuffed stuff all over your system12:26
kyja:/12:26
kyjabluck12:26
{_-IcE-_}https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters12:26
wickedpuppyearthian, man programname ... the developer name should be in it.. or visit the project page12:26
{_-IcE-_}i followed that guide exactly12:26
earthianok thanks wickedpuppy12:27
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al2961sic radical12:28
{_-IcE-_}what should i type in Location?12:28
al2961oiiiiiiiii12:29
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rowanjlCan anyone explain how to setup PostgreSQL?12:32
[NB] Mahemcan someone help me out with mysql problems i have alot debian servers running php/mysql/apache and was intrested in the lamp install to get a fast base system but im just getting in to problems12:32
rowanjlI've got the packages and server running, but I can't login12:33
[NB] Mahemi cant connect to myysql it dosent matter what i do12:33
wickedpuppy[NB] Mahem, first , is mysql running ?12:34
dr_nickrowanjl: sudo -u postgres sh12:34
Matteo24oh12:34
dr_nickrowanjl: createuser -A -D myusername12:34
Matteo24can anyone give me a good link how install oracle 9i on ubuntu 6.06 ?12:35
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dr_nickrowanjl: createdb -O myusername mydatabase12:35
wickedpuppy!oracle12:35
ubotuIf you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html12:35
wickedpuppywhy 9i ? i thought 10g been out for months12:35
dr_nickrowanjl: exit postgres shell, then in your user account type psql mydatabase and you're in12:35
rowanjlok, thanks :)12:36
Matteo24becouse i use specified schema for 9i12:36
wickedpuppybtw ... isn't that info on postgres website dr_nick rowanjl  ??12:36
wickedpuppyMatteo24, ah k .. kindly visit the site pls12:36
timhaughton at12:36
dr_nickwickedpuppy: i'm sure it is :-)12:36
timhaughton[sorry - wrong window] 12:36
Matteo24thnx i check that12:36
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[NB] Mahemsorry yes its running but it dont accept any password im using but by default the password is empty acording to the serverdocs12:37
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wickedpuppy[NB] Mahem, may i ask what did you typed ?12:37
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[NB] Mahemmysql -u root -p12:38
wickedpuppypls give us some thing for us to flame you for being noob [NB] Mahem12:38
wickedpuppylol12:38
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HapoI'll repeat my question from some time ago:12:38
wickedpuppy[NB] Mahem, can you kindly leave out -p ?12:38
rowanjldr_nick: well, that works, do you use pgadmin3?12:38
[NB] Mahemits all the same12:38
Hapo12:04 ( Hapo) I have had a weird problem after upgrading from dapper to edgy. after the boot sequence my screen goes black and nothing happens. when I switch to a virtual text console and then back to the X console, X begins to start up... with might be the problem here?12:38
HapoI'm using the nvidia drivers12:38
whymehey all12:38
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wickedpuppyHapo, so X is fine? its just not starting automatically ?12:39
whymeis there an ubuntu-server channel I can get cli help in? I'm just trying to add a group gfoo to user foo (or add foo to group gfoo.... you know what I mean...)12:39
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wickedpuppywhyme, for that .. why bother asking ? why not google ? useradd is the command and the switches can be found by --help12:40
dr_nickrowanjl: nope. but for that to work i guess you have to edit /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf and enable password authentication for network connections12:40
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rowanjldr_nick: right12:41
wickedpuppy[NB] Mahem, so how ?12:41
dr_nickwhyme: adduser user group12:41
dr_nickwhyme: man adduser12:41
wickedpuppyall the same ? hmms ... whats the error ? paste here for others to help ya .. i am out for dinner .. sorry dude12:42
Matteo24LOL12:42
Hapowickedpuppy: yes, it's fine. however, this problem is a little weird. X does start automatically but only after switching to some virtual console first... in normal situations this should be so that the system boots up the console, not to a blank screen. then I would just log in and type "startx" to start X.12:42
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Matteo24useradd name_user -g name_group -G other_group12:43
whymewickedpuppy, dr_nick, thanks - irc is faster and I like it :P, foo is already a user, so useradd won't work with it, the man page doesn't actually say how to add an existing group to an existing user.12:43
Haposomeone on the finnish ubuntu channel claimed there's a bug about this12:43
Hapobut he didn't find it in the bug database12:43
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Bedirselamlar kanal12:44
Matteo24chown --ingroup namegroup12:44
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[NB] Mahemif someone wants to help me with mysql msg me ( i cant login whatever i do)12:44
Matteo24check pass :)12:45
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dr_nickwhyme: Add an existing user to an existing group12:45
dr_nick       If called with two non-option arguments, adduser will add an existing user to an existing group.12:45
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whymedr_nick, my bad, it seemed to work the second time around.... my fault for not rtfming properly12:45
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dr_nick:-)12:46
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whazillahigh12:47
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whazillais ther a recovery mode on ubuntu ?12:47
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[NB] Mahemthink ill go back to using debian thought that i would save time using ubuntu instead by using the lamp install but dosent look like it12:47
Yggdrasilhi guys can somone help me with cups. ive gotten it working localy on the debian box and im trying to connect to it over the lan from ubuntu but im not sure what the name of the printer is.12:48
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whazillais ther a recovery mode on ubuntu ?12:49
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thegvewhazilla - when booting you can choose recovery mode12:49
thegvepresh escape while grub is loading12:50
Yggdrasilalso, the live cd is pretty much recovery12:50
whazillathkx12:50
whazillai was just trying xterm save mode12:50
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thegveIs it a known issue that OpenLDAP under Ubuntu is instable?12:50
CorpseFeedertrying to help my friend install sun java jre... where are the instructions for this? And he is using amd64bit kernel too if that makes any difference.12:51
thegveIt crashes quite often here on 2 servers.12:51
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whazillaCorpseFeeder is ubuntu stable ?12:51
thegveAnd it is an incompatible (too recent) version for nomachine's NX (due to my support enquery now known there as an issue, and they've given me a workaround by setting a timeout of 2 sec in the slapd.conf)12:52
CorpseFeederwhat?12:52
CorpseFeederhow do you mean?12:52
whazillaa joke12:52
CorpseFeederoh12:53
thegvehttp://www.google.nl/search?q=ubuntu+jre&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nl:official12:53
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ragsomebody, install half life with wine12:55
TerminusYggdrasil: have you configured cups to accept network connections?12:55
Yggdrasilterminus i think so. in the conf file ? or from the html gui ?12:55
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TerminusYggdrasil: config file. if you can access http://server:631/ over the network, that means you've configured it properly.12:56
patienthow can I install Ubuntu on my computer?12:56
Yggdrasilterminus i can indeed.12:56
l3ondo you know Jesus christ superstar ?12:56
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TerminusYggdrasil: go to that address, click on printers, and you'll see the printer name.12:57
Yggdrasilhmm.12:57
Yggdrasilits long12:57
TerminusYggdrasil: after that, you can use the gnome printer configuration thingy and use the address ipp://server/printers/$printer_name to access it.12:57
Terminusif ipp doesn't work, use http.12:58
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Yggdrasilahh intersting12:58
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Yggdrasilipp://10.0.0.2/printers/HP_OfficeJet_6100_Series_USB_112:58
Yggdrasil?12:58
Terminusipp is simply a printer protocol that runs on top of http. =)12:58
Terminusyep. that should do it.12:58
thegvepatient: Have you read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper12:58
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Yggdrasilok ill work it.. i think i tried that though :(12:59
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TerminusYggdrasil: really? it should work fine. make sure you didn't restrict access to ipp://10.0.0.2/printers or else it won't work.12:59
Yggdrasilwhatd o you mean ?01:00
thegvepatient: Basically: Download cd - boot from it -- follow the installation wizard. Read what the wizard tells you - don't do silly things01:00
TerminusYggdrasil: i mean don't deny access to it.01:00
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TerminusYggdrasil: want me to post my cupsd.conf?01:00
Yggdrasilsure anything will help01:00
Yggdrasili htink i did that also01:00
patientI tried but if I install directely, I just can't see eth0, that's why I'm using Virtual Machine01:00
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Yggdrasiloh crap it worked :)01:01
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Yggdrasilterminus thank yhoou01:01
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Yggdrasili didnt know about the /printers .. add01:02
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TerminusYggdrasil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27955/ <-- that's my cupsd.conf01:02
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Yggdrasilterminus it works01:03
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raghow to install half life with wine01:03
TerminusYggdrasil: good. =)01:03
thegvepatient: What is your exact question, what is the thing that you don't know. What type of Virtual machine are you using. Xen, vmware, virtual pc, etc01:03
Yggdrasilat least i think it does ill have to run down there and . check but i see the job in the que from the webpage01:04
CorpseFeederis there an easier way to get out of a lock-up than pressing the reset button? I was just browsing a website someone posted in here not 5 minutes ago and it totally locked up my computer. I could move the mouse around but I could not click anything. the whole screen was dead. So, what is the best way to get out of this situation?01:04
egdhi everyone, any partitioning gurus out there?  I've expanded a JBOD from two to four disks, it's visible to Dapper but doesn't appear to be expandable at the partition table level01:04
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wrabbit^hi all.... So I've just reinstalled Ubuntu 6.06, followed this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades) page to get it upgraded to Edgy and now X won't start. :( Anybody able to help please?01:04
Yggdrasilterminus thanks01:04
TerminusYggdrasil: when it's done printing, it should disappear from the job queue.01:04
TerminusYggdrasil: you're welcome. =)01:04
egdwrabbit:  u using nvidia chiptset?01:05
wrabbit^egd, I am01:05
egdokie, give me a sec01:05
CorpseFeederwhat's the best way to get out of a total computer lock-up when browsing with firefox?01:05
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wrabbit^Maybe I'll have to dl the nvidia drivers again?  Native nv doesn't work with edgy?01:06
thegveCorpseFeeder: ctrl-alt-f101:06
thegvekillall firefox-bin01:06
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thegveor try to reach a console in graphical mode of course01:06
thegvebut mosttimes it's faster with a "real" terminal01:06
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megalodonCan anyone  help me configure my Matrox G40001:06
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megalodonit's a dual head grfx card...01:06
CorpseFeederok thanks01:07
egdwrabbit:  try: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2901:07
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egdI know it's not for Edgy, but it may do the trick01:07
megalodonWrabbit, Nvidia Driver would work for Matrox cards01:07
Shiro-kunive copied the ubuntu linux livecd on my harddrive, but cant seem to find out how can i boot the thing in grub?01:08
egdwrabbit:  seems there's an Edgy guide too: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2901:08
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wrabbit^egd, thanks.  I'll give it a read.  megalodon... I don't own a Matrox card01:08
TerminusCorpseFeeder: total? not just firefox? can you switch to a VT with ctrl+alt+f1?01:08
megalodonCan anyone  help me configure my Matrox G40001:08
patientvmware01:08
thegveok01:09
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thegvedownload the iso, mount it to the virtual cd-rom (something like advanced or so, it is possible..)01:09
egdwhat partition tools do I have at my disposal other than gparted.  I need something that can resize partitions01:09
thegvethen boot from the iso, and install ubuntu01:09
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patientDownload from where?01:09
thegveubuntu.com01:10
thegvedownload01:10
Shiro-kunhow can i boot from an iso? i dont have a cd-writer?01:10
wrabbit^thank egd01:10
kyjaall of a sudden my gnome-screensaver wont start. it generates minimal errors in gnome terminal if I watch it there. I need help01:10
egdgparted tells me my jbod size is less than zero01:10
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balorldap01:10
thegveShiro-kun: You can only boot from iso's in a virtual machine01:10
egdthe drive and partition is not corrupt - accessible and seen by disk manager01:10
kyja:(01:11
rowanjlI've been instructed to do this: "you just need to add the pgsql lib dir to your systems library path.", I know what the path is, but how do I add that to the "systems library path"?01:11
thegveIf you wan't to install on a physical machine order a free cd and wait a month or so, or get a friend to burn it for you.01:11
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megalodonCan anyone  help me configure my Matrox G400 dual head01:11
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patientCan U burn it 4 me?01:12
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megalodonAnyone?01:14
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valehruhey guys, I upgraded today and now the wireless is broken....I got a script that should work but when I go "sudo ./ndiswrapper_setup" I get command not found.01:17
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CorpseFeederwhat exactly does alt-ctrl-backspace do?01:18
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valehruCorpseFeeder, it kills gnome01:19
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emavCorpseFeeder: Restarts the X-windows server.01:20
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CorpseFeederok01:20
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emavAnybody who has got an iPAQ 6515 and has successfully managed synchronization with ubuntu?01:21
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thegveemav: I have a 6515, not tried to synchronize :)01:23
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reduxslm01:23
emavthegve: Please, do! Then, there will be two of us looking for a solution! :)01:24
Jon-Doehello guys looking for a bit of help if possible, im new to linux, basically i need to get on the net so i can learn more but i dont know how to get it to pick up my network card :(01:24
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thegveI'm in the Gambia for work atm, will do when I'm back at home in the Netherlands01:24
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wickedpuppy Jon-Doe first ... you just described your solution but not the necessary details like network card vendor and error message and what you did to get it and so on ....01:25
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Jon-Doeok well i dont kno the first thing about installing on linux i put my linksys disc in and linux says the driver is not supported, ive been on some forums and they suggest using mdiswrapper but i dont kno what to do01:26
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Jon-Doe*ndiswrapper01:26
wickedpuppyJon-Doe, linksys disc in ? the actual network card pls ?01:27
wickedpuppynot the cd01:27
Jon-Doelinksys wireless g with speed boost01:27
wickedpuppyso its wireless card ? for laptop or desktop ?01:28
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Jon-Doelaptop01:28
wickedpuppyah k01:28
Jon-Doeits usb tho01:28
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wickedpuppyso now we are clear01:28
Jon-Doesorry :(01:28
wickedpuppyits a usb linksys wireless ...01:28
Jon-Doeyes01:28
thegveJon-Doe: http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorial/Srtting-Up-NDISWrapper-on-Ubuntu-using-GUI/1254601:28
Jon-Doety01:29
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wickedpuppy:P01:29
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thegveJon-Doe: sorry, too fast... that link was dead01:30
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Jon-Doelol01:30
Jon-Doethats y im getting nothing then01:30
Jon-Doelol01:30
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kyjaI realy need to fix gnome-screensaver01:31
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kyjaI dont like broken.01:32
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BergcubeI want to set up apt-proxy for use for the macines on the LAN.  I've installed it via Synaptic on one machine, so now I need to figure out how to configure it, and how to set the other machines to use the apt-proxy.  Does anyone have any experience with this, and feel like helping me out?01:33
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nomad111for some reason, when running xgl on xfce my desktop is only like a quarter of the screen01:33
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ragplease help!  fixme:msi:MSI_OpenDatabaseW open failed r = 80030003!01:33
wrabbit^hi, I'm trying to enter this "wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - sudo apt-get update" from here.... (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories) and it's telling me that 404 not found and that gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.  Any ideas?01:34
Jon-Doethegve:dont spose u have another 1 do u?01:34
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bioshaterdoes ubotu has a function to detect from which (uninstalled) package a specific file comes?01:36
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thegveJon-Doe: I just googled it up myself01:37
thegvesomething with ndiswrapper gui01:37
thegveIt can be installed using automatix01:37
thegveso I guess you install that01:37
thegveautomatix.org i think01:37
patientthegve, I can't find Ubuntu iso to dowload, help!01:38
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Jon-Doecool ty01:38
thegvepatient: http://www.ubuntu.com/download01:39
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wickedpuppythegve, pls do not recommend automatix01:40
thegvewickedpuppy: Why?01:40
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eyedolwickedpuppy, why?01:40
thegveautomatix2 is pretty cool and better then automatix1, in my opinion01:40
wickedpuppythegve, cause it installs programs without the knowledge of the user ... which is what it is supposed to do01:40
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wickedpuppythe problem comes when the user come here and ask for help ... then usually we need to know what he has installed and so on ...01:41
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wickedpuppythen the problem of automatix will appear01:41
eyedolwickedpuppy, no it prompts you to select the programs to you want to install01:41
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wickedpuppyeyedol, if you seen those who need help after automatix , you will know what i mean01:42
nomad111is it alrite to install kubuntu 6.06 or should i get 6.06.101:42
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stmem... i'm a newb. How can i install nvidia gforce driver on ubuntu?01:42
boinkis there a 6.06.1 ?01:42
thegvenomad111: It is alright to install 6.0601:42
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wickedpuppymost who use it doesn't know what program to install .. if they know what to install then they do not need automatix01:42
boink6.06 LTS is stable01:42
stmI got NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run01:42
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thegveboink: Most likely the latest patched version or so01:42
nomad111k01:43
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Jon-Doewickedpuppy shud i use automatix or not?01:43
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nomad111well my dilemma is ive got ubuntu,kubuntu,and xubuntu infront of me and im not sure which to install, all are 6.0601:43
wickedpuppyJon-Doe, in the end its you who decide .. i can explain to you why it is not good but the decision is up to you01:43
wrabbit^nomad111: they're all the same but with different desktops.  You can always install ubuntu then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever01:44
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nomad111ok i shall do that01:44
Jon-Doei dont mind not using it i just need to get linux on the net then i can search and find other solutions when they come up01:44
nomad111thx for the tip01:44
Jon-Doejust having problems with the first hurdle :(01:44
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nomad111by the way can i get rpm's to work in ubuntu01:45
boinksure01:45
boinkman alien01:45
nomad111there are some development packages that are only rpms and i need01:45
wickedpuppyJon-Doe, ok then since you are ... "screwed" ... normally i myself like to do things people say should never do .. lol01:45
Jon-Doelol01:45
boinkbut when you install rpm's on your own, you're outside of the ubuntu .deb structure01:45
boinkbest to check with apt-cache first.01:46
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nomad111the package i want is third-party propriety01:46
nomad111its for embedded programming01:46
nomad111and it weighs in at 1 gig lol01:46
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Jon-Doesure i can always remove it after cudnt i?01:46
boinkand alien doesn't allow work either :/01:46
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wickedpuppynomad111, can name the program name ? if you can of course01:46
nomad111xilinx ise webpack01:47
boinkalien - install non-native packages with dpkg01:47
boink!alien01:47
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).01:47
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nomad111ye im reading that in synaptic right now01:47
boinkgood luck with alien .. or just use Fedora if you need a rpm platform to do your work01:48
nomad111i dont like fedora01:48
nomad111messy01:48
boinkit is01:48
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wickedpuppysuse ?01:48
kyjayuk01:48
wickedpuppysled 10 is superb ...01:48
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boinksuse is somewhat messy too .. and there's no guarantee that those rpm's would work on SuSe01:48
nomad111i had suse 10.1 and today at work i decided to install xubuntu over it for no obvious reason01:48
wrabbit^Cmon guys... I can't figure this out.  I'm up to the 'wget' part in this guide.... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories It's giving me an error01:48
boinkFedora is somewhat the "default" linux :/01:48
nomad111i thought id like xfce turns out its too simple01:48
wrabbit^I'd really appreciate the hel01:49
wrabbit^p01:49
wickedpuppynomad111, have you tried sled ? not opensuse ...01:49
nomad111u mean the one u pay for01:49
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nomad111i only used the free version01:49
nomad111ie opensuse 10.1 or watever01:49
wrabbit^is there an edgy help channel?01:49
gnomefreakwrabbit^: #ubuntu+101:49
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CorpseFeederI think I have wrong java installed on my machine too. java -version responds with...   java version "1.4.2"01:49
wrabbit^ta01:49
CorpseFeedergij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)01:49
nomad111wickedpuppy, anyways im not going to waste much thought on the matter im going to install ubuntu 6.0601:50
wickedpuppynomad111, sort of ... but the beta was for free .. now i am not sure .. i did the beta and you can turn on XGL with a click01:50
wickedpuppyah there he goes01:50
gnomefreakCorpseFeeder: install sun-java5-plugin it will install jre and bin01:50
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kyja3 more days for 6.10 =] 01:50
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dutchmegaQuiet here01:51
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dutchmegahehe01:52
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CorpseFeederit just tells me "sun-java5-plugin is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."01:52
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wickedpuppyCorpseFeeder, try this /usr/bin/java -version01:53
wickedpuppywhat you get ?01:53
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boinkjava version "1.4.2"01:54
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CorpseFeederjava version "1.4.2"01:55
wickedpuppyweird .. thats where i have my java 1.501:55
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American-TechLooking for help getting sound going.01:56
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CorpseFeederI think I sorted it now01:56
wickedpuppyis it in /usr/local/java ?01:57
chrismhampsoni've installed blackbox as my window manager but does anyone know how to build menus so i don't have to load programs from xterm?01:57
CorpseFeederI tried sudo update-alternatives --config java and picked a different version.01:57
wickedpuppyah ... k01:57
CorpseFeedernow i get java version "1.5.0_06"01:58
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Rambo3chrismhampson, i remember on debian i used debian menu somthing but for fluxbox01:59
mengis there a way to fix alsa02:00
chrismhampsonRambo3: thanks i'll have a look02:00
Rambo3you migh try and search debian menu in apt02:00
mengcoz mine suddenly just have linein, line out and jack02:00
wickedpuppymeng, may i ask what country you are from ? cause you name sounds asian02:01
wickedpuppybtw try alsamixer02:02
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menglook for a nation right above Singapore02:02
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wickedpuppymalaysia ?02:02
wickedpuppyi am below it .. in fact 15 min from causeway ....02:03
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mengyup02:04
mengbut then i have no sound from anything02:04
LivingSouLhi guys02:04
wickedpuppymeng, alsamixer ??02:04
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mengdid it02:05
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Alakazamz0rmeng, is your sound card detected?02:05
wickedpuppyso then is your sound card detected ?02:05
wickedpuppylol02:05
Alakazamz0ris "front" your main channel/02:05
Alakazamz0r?02:05
mengbut my plain Live got detected as a Dell one too02:05
Alakazamz0ris the fox in the hole?02:05
LivingSouLanybody?02:05
Alakazamz0ryes LivingSouL02:05
jdt_Hi, who has any recommendations on the best way to setup a "very" secure ftp server using ubuntu dapper. . One that Microsoft clients can access over the net. So - using ssh / ssl etc. Pref one that requires not much config on the client end so that it is easier for them to use?02:06
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gop!restricted02:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:06
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Alakazamz0rjdt, i'll do it for you02:06
Alakazamz0rjust let me have axs02:06
Alakazamz0rif its a fast pipe02:06
Alakazamz0rheh02:06
mengit's like working well for a while02:06
harisundHas anybody here used a Squid cache as a .deb caching repository?02:06
jdt_ha :)02:06
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mengthen after i rolled back the changes i did on xorg for the mouse, the sound died02:07
wickedpuppyjdt_, vsftp .... very secure ftp02:07
wickedpuppyenough said02:07
jdt_Alakazamz0r: sounds good! hehe.  What technologies?  proftpd?02:07
Alakazamz0rvsftpd02:07
wickedpuppylol02:07
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mengit seems to show 3 different devices02:07
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LivingSouLhi guys02:07
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Alakazamz0rlol wickedpuppy i like the way you think02:08
Lynourejdt_: there is more to security than the choice of the ftp server, remember to take care of other aspects and monitor logs02:08
LivingSouLi need help :(02:08
Alakazamz0rmike@malakai:~$ uname -a02:08
Alakazamz0rLinux malakai 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:47:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:08
Alakazamz0rw00t w00t02:08
mengboth the SAA7134 and the Sigmatel are not showing all the controls02:08
Alakazamz0redgy server02:08
wickedpuppyAlakazamz0r, :P02:08
Alakazamz0r:D02:08
LivingSouLwhat irc client is best for ubuntu? is there any graphical one?02:08
Alakazamz0rLivingSouL, XChat02:08
wickedpuppy!ask | LivingSouL02:08
ubotuLivingSouL: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:08
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jdt_wickedpuppy: thanks - I will check it out.02:08
LynoureLivingSouL: for what kind of use of irc?02:08
Alakazamz0rLivingSouL, BitchX pwns.02:09
Alakazamz0rdont forget the CLI!02:09
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LynoureLivingSouL: for 24/7 irssi is really good02:09
wickedpuppyor irssi ... whatever turn you on ...02:09
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Alakazamz0r"Don't forget the CLI!"02:09
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jdt_Lynoure: Thanks, agreed, it will be behind a cisco pix. I am just trying to figure out the best way to do it. SSL or SSH2 etc. I want only authenticated access, and all traffic - client to server encrypted. All traffic will be from clients connecting in - no connections out. etc.02:10
Alakazamz0rno it isnt :P02:10
LivingSouL!ping02:10
ubotuping: connection timeout02:10
dcordesirssi4ever02:10
wickedpuppythat program should be banned .... not very nice to say to a friend ... "use the bitch fool!!!" <--- sounds vulgar02:10
Alakazamz0rjdt_, SSH2 for FTP?02:10
Alakazamz0rwhat?02:10
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concept10where is the config file for sessions? i need to manually set gnome as default02:11
Alakazamz0r./etc02:11
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jdt_Alkazamz0r:  as an alternative!02:11
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Alakazamz0rjdt_, as an alternative for what.02:12
cmoneyanyone using vmware player?02:12
Alakazamz0rcmoney, no, but im using vmware.02:12
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cmoneywhat's the difference in the two?02:12
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Alakazamz0ryou can make a virtual os w/vmware02:12
Alakazamz0ryou can only play a virtual OS w/player02:13
Alakazamz0rplayer.02:13
sobersabrehi, I have a SiS based chipset machine. Trying to use Ubuntu 6.06.1 CD, it doesn't reach X, and falls out of X02:13
sobersabreI don't even want to run the "LiveCD", I want to install in text mode.02:13
Alakazamz0rsobersabre, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:13
normeoanyone with some ndiswrapper expertise?02:13
sobersabreAlakazamz0r this is the live-cd02:13
Alakazamz0roh02:13
Alakazamz0ruuh... im sure there's an option in there for NOFB02:14
Alakazamz0ror something02:14
sobersabreIs there a way to boot this "live-CD" in some fashion that it directly reaches text-mode installer with all the regular ubuntu things02:14
sobersabre?02:14
sobersabrewithout trying to run the Live-CD02:14
jribsobersabre: you can use the "alternate cd"02:14
{_-IcE-_}how can i check permissions for a dir?02:15
sobersabreSHIT!02:15
sobersabrejrib, why is this the "alternate CD" ?!?!?!?!?!?!?02:15
sobersabrethe live one should be alternate.02:15
Alakazamz0ri think you have the alternative install CD02:15
jrib{_-IcE-_}: right click on it and go to properties.  Or 'ls -ld /path/to/dir'02:15
sobersabreI had 1 CD clean media02:15
Lynourejdt_: Will you have very varied users or a fixed set of users? Or something between? If varied, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SFTP_clients for client support02:15
wrabbit^is ubuntu+1 actually a support channel? not much happening in there02:15
Alakazamz0rwrabbit^, its the edgy channel02:15
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{_-IcE-_}drwxrwxrwx 2 webroot nogroup 40960 Oct 24 13:28 means its full access right?02:16
{_-IcE-_}i need to chmod to 77702:16
wrabbit^Alakazamz0r: an edgy support channel?02:16
Alakazamz0rsobersabre, http://developer.novell.com/wiki/images/b/ba/Screenshot-Ubuntu_install_prompt-alternative.png02:16
Lynourejdt_: if a stable set of users, consider also limiting the access to their IPs02:16
Alakazamz0rwrabbit^, in essence yes.02:16
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jrib{_-IcE-_}: yes, it's already 77702:16
{_-IcE-_}tnx, just checkin :)02:16
sobersabreI looked at "desktop CD"02:16
sobersabreand downloaded it.02:16
Alakazamz0rwrabbit^, im running edgy, whats the problem02:16
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meng is there any way i could make alsa auto configure my card again, like manually invoked?02:17
sobersabreIs there a network based Installer on floppy ?02:17
jdt_Lynoure: Fixed number, only one or two to start, growing very gradually so trestricting access by ip is possible.02:17
Alakazamz0r{_-IcE-_}, it should be 75502:17
Alakazamz0rnever 77702:17
wrabbit^Alakazamz0r: x won't start.  I've tried installing the nvidia drivers and I've modified xorg.conf accordingly and it still won't work, even after a reboot02:17
Alakazamz0r755 = rwxrwxr-x02:17
jribubotu: tell sobersabre about install02:17
{_-IcE-_}Alakazamz0r: its a web folder people are able to upload files to02:17
wrabbit^Alakazamz0r: I followed this guide... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2902:18
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Alakazamz0rwrabbit^, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:18
sobersabrejrib please leave me alone.02:18
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Alakazamz0roh ice02:18
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wrabbit^Alakazamz0r: I'll give that a shot and report back02:18
jribsobersabre: ??02:18
jdt_Lynoure: The main thing is that I want the traffic encrypted. The connections will be established by Windows servers doing a scheduled task or something or other. i.e. send the files in the morning, get the updates in the afternoon sort of arrangement.02:18
Alakazamz0rok wrabbit^ that'll likely fix it02:18
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wrabbit^Alakazamz0r: I hope so.  I'm currently doing an apt-get update.  Once it's done, I'll put in .. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:19
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Alakazamz0rok wrabbit^02:20
MadeyeI want www-data and all users in "developers" group to be able to write/read/excute files in certain directory, what permission shall I set ?02:20
bbrazilwww-data.developers 77x02:20
bbrazilwhere x is probably 5, 1 or 002:21
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rootptsomeone help me -> http://pastebin.com/81185202:21
{_-IcE-_}Alakazamz0r: in drwxrwxrwx, what is the d?02:21
wrabbit^Alakazamz0r: says that xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed!!! :\02:21
[NB] Mahemhmm how do i start mc so it dosent uses the wrong keyset ?? mc -a or mc -c dosent work ?02:21
Lynourejdt_: Hmmm, encrypted connection is really the easiest thing in the puzzle. :) I think you'll do fine.02:22
sobersabrejrib sorry, I don't know what caught me...02:22
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jdt_Lynoure: Thanks: Should be fun02:22
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jdt_Alakazamz0r: Thanks also02:22
Alakazamz0r{_-IcE-_}, it knows its a directory02:22
Lynourejdt_: :)02:23
timhaughtonAny Edgy users know if the encrypted partitions install-time support made its way in?02:23
Alakazamz0rno problem jdt_  if you need help just ask :)02:23
Alakazamz0rtimhaughton, if thats the reason my fstab is all jacked up, then yes02:23
Alakazamz0rhttp://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/1/5002:24
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rootptsomeone help me -> http://pastebin.com/81185202:24
variantrootpt: pastebin is not loading02:24
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jribrootpt: can you use a different pastebin?  pastebin.com won't load.  Try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or pastebin.ca02:25
Alakazamz0rhttp://www.zenoss.com/product/screenshots02:25
variantrootpt: or rafb.net/nopaste02:25
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rootptok02:26
rootptsorry02:26
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variantrootpt: its ok, it loaded here now02:26
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rootpthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27964/02:26
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sytoneAny tips on tracking down a system hang, nothing is showing in the logs02:26
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variantsytone: is the system still booted? can you ping/ssh to it?02:27
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sytoneim on it now :) just had to hard power cycle the machnie, the whole UI goes deadm, cannot move mouse or anything. I have found no ryme or reason02:27
sytonejust installed 6.06 LTS was oin 5.somthing without issue02:28
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variantsytone: can you ctrl alt f1/2/3/4 ?02:28
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variantsytone: you have nvidia driver or ati driver? (proprietry ones)02:29
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sytonenvidia.02:29
sytoneits the only 'extra' i have on the machoine02:29
sobersabrehmmm... I did manage to get into the live GUI, thanks to Alakazamz0r02:29
sytonethat and ntfs-3g.02:29
sobersabrewhat is the password of user ubuntu ?02:29
variantsytone: there is your problem (probably) in my experiance you wont get a system to stay up predictably wehn using the proprietry driver02:29
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sytoneany way to kick the level of loggin up in the machnie to try and track it down02:30
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sytonebeen to long since i used Linux02:30
variantsytone: change the driver to nv and it wont happen again02:30
sobersabreguys, what is the password of user ubuntu for the Live CD on Dapper ?02:30
sytonedoes that come with warrenty :)02:30
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sytoneill switch it over... I  may be back.02:31
variantsytone: gl02:31
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sytonequick q, does nv work with just glx?02:32
sytoneor do i have to add DRI02:32
sobersabrewhere is the documentation on how to use the dapper live CD, I need the passwor for user ubuntu02:32
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sobersabre?02:32
variantsytone: nope, there is no 3d acceleration with nv driver at all02:33
sobersabretried passwords: <empty>, ubuntu, dapper,02:33
sytoneThanks, DRI it is then02:33
snoopsI'm looking for a tool which will find duplicate files (not based on file names but on file hashes) in directories of my choosing then let me delete some.. anyone know of such software?02:33
joonasobersabre: its empty (no password)02:33
rootptvariant: and me ?02:33
sobersabrejoona ... this doesn't work.02:34
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joonareboot and just hit enter when it prompts for the pwd02:34
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LivingSouL1hi guys02:34
rootptsomeone help me ?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27964/02:35
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sobersabrehell. I am trying to login into the login screen of Live CD of Dapper. When prompted for user/pass I give: ubuntu/<empty>02:35
Alakazamz0rno problem sobersabre02:35
sytonearrrggg vi command do not work in nano :) hehe you should see the mess i just made.. talk about old habits02:35
sobersabreon the console it is written:02:35
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sobersabreUser not known to the underlying authentication module.02:36
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timhaughtonHow do I set the http proxy on a Dapper server? Which file?02:37
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Alakazamz0rsobersabre, you didnt add a user when you installed?02:38
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[BTF] Chm0dhey guys im trying to install the 9625 beta drivers for nvidia on a fresh install of ubuntu dapper and I am getting this error http://pastebin.ca/21701802:38
[BTF] Chm0dany help would be appreciated02:38
noiaI have just had to re-install my copy of ubuntu...I was in here earlier with an NTFS problem and now I have the same problem again...can some one scroll up and find me the correct /etc/fstab line I need?02:39
Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, apt-get install kernel-headers-'uname -r'02:39
Alakazamz0ror something of that nature02:40
[BTF] Chm0dkernel headers are installed Alakazamz0r02:40
Alakazamz0ryou need to install your kernel source and headers for your current kernel02:40
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Alakazamz0rare they the right ones?02:40
Administratorwhat applications can I use for my webcam?02:40
[BTF] Chm0dyep02:40
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[BTF] Chm0dnvidia can not find the path to kernel source02:40
dcordesanybody knows a good noob guide for nmap?02:40
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Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, what's /var/log/nvidia-installer.log say?02:40
Alakazamz0ryeah dcordes02:40
Alakazamz0rhere's a guide for you02:40
[BTF] Chm0dhttp://pastebin.ca/21701802:40
Alakazamz0rnmap -sS -vv -P0 -O ipaddress02:41
Alakazamz0r:)02:41
Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, uname -r for me.02:41
dcordesAlakazamz0r: what does this do?02:41
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noiacan anyone search their logs for a line that was given to me a few hours ago? I had to re-install and now I need to fix the same problem again///02:41
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Alakazamz0rnoia, cat filename |grep whatyourelookingfor02:42
[BTF] Chm0d2.6.15-27-68602:42
Administratorwhat applications can I use for my webcam?02:42
Administratorwhat applications can I use for my webcam?02:42
joonagqcam02:42
joonacamorama02:42
Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, he kernel header file02:42
Alakazamz0r       '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27/include/linux/version.h' does not exist.02:42
noiaAlakazamz0r: that would be all nice and fine except..I had to re-install..ergo..no log files02:42
Alakazamz0rkernel-source-2.4.27/include/linux/version.h' does not exist.02:42
Alakazamz0rkernel-source-2.4.2702:42
Alakazamz0rget it?02:42
noiaAlakazamz0r: if it helps it was an NTFS problem02:43
Alakazamz0rnoia, history |grep whatyourelookingfor02:43
[BTF] Chm0dnot correct version02:43
noiaAlakazamz0r: again...I have no logs!02:43
[BTF] Chm0dlike you said02:43
Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, correct02:43
Alakazamz0rreinstall the correct kernel headers and recompile the driver02:43
noiaAlakazamz0r: the entire partition had to be formated, please read all of what I say, not just part of it02:43
Alakazamz0rnoia, you've got a bash history no?02:43
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noiaAlakazamz0r: ....FORMATED!02:43
Alakazamz0rokay YOU FIX IT THEN02:44
Alakazamz0r:)02:44
Alakazamz0rnoia, why dont you tell me what your problem is instead of being daft.02:44
noiaAlakazamz0r: I'v said I had to re-install 5 times now, its a simple matter of you performing the grep on your log files, since mine have been lost to the abyss02:44
Alakazamz0rnoia, i havent been in here all night.02:44
Alakazamz0rI'v said I had to re-install 5 times now <----- WHY?!02:45
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gop_hey02:45
gop_I am getting th is error02:45
gop_GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not02:45
noiaAlakazamz0r: I need an /etc/fstab line that was provided to me earlier to allow me to use NTFS partitions02:45
noiaAlakazamz0r: I said it 5 times, I didn't re-install 5 times02:45
gop_any here know why easy ubuntu get this eror and is it a quick fix02:45
gop_I don't see why it say it has no public key02:45
Alakazamz0rnoia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700902:46
gop_hey some one quickly explain to me why I get that02:46
Alakazamz0rcause you havent imported the key Gods_gift02:46
Alakazamz0roops02:46
Alakazamz0rgop02:46
gop_how do I import the key02:47
dcordesgop_:i guess you added a custom repository which requires a public key :)02:47
gop_:)02:47
gop_oh in the source list02:47
dcordesgop_: that depends on which repo you added02:47
gop_it telling me to fix package02:48
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dcordes?02:48
gop_easy ubuntu was telling me to fix package I got confused02:49
dcordesgop_ if you would be a little more precise, you would receive a lot more help02:49
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Alakazamz0rright02:49
gop_k I tink I fixed it02:49
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gop_my english sucks02:49
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dcordesnvm02:49
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gop_k sorry when using the program easyubuntu, I got an error after trying to install some packages, fix package first02:51
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Alakazamz0rgop_, does your english suck.02:51
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timhaughtonHow do I set the http proxy on a Dapper server? Which file?02:51
Alakazamz0ror does our german suck.02:51
[BTF] Chm0dAlakazamz0r: now I am getting this error??? http://pastebin.ca/21703302:51
snikkeri've got a problem with vmware server... after the installation, i don't have the internet access... and if i unistall it, i can surf in the net only with the firewall disabled...02:51
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Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, did you upgrade your kenrel source?02:52
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dcordessnikker: try #vmware02:52
joonap02:52
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snikkerdcordes: ok02:52
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cosmodadhi all -- after my Breezy->Dapper upgrade, I'm missing a bunch of fonts I used to have before. Do I need to install any additional packages to fix this?02:53
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gop_it say could not apply changes02:53
plbhrm so edgy is getting firefox 2 final with official FF logo?02:53
gop_fix package02:53
dcordescosmodad: did you use truetype fonts?02:53
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cosmodaddcordes: I guess...02:54
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cosmodaddcordes: I realized this when I opened Open Office and saw some fonts missing within documents that displayed them perfectly before02:54
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cosmodaddcordes: I have msttcorefonts installed though02:55
axa-axaHi, can someone please tell me how can I change behaviour of right alt-gr taster so it works as left alt in console (for example. to be in able to delete word from right with alt+d and so on)?02:55
[BTF] Chm0dAlakazamz0r: yes i did02:55
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cosmodaddcordes: any idea?02:56
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dcordeswait02:56
[BTF] Chm0dhmm02:56
Alakazamz0r[BTF] Chm0d, uname -r02:56
furestaHi folks, does anybody know of a good ubuntu hardware compatibility list, ie web site?02:56
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[BTF] Chm0d2.6.15-27-68602:56
Alakazamz0r-> Kernel source path: '/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686/'02:56
[BTF] Chm0dshould my kernel source say exactly that? cuz if it is I can't find it02:56
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Alakazamz0rwhat part of what im trying to tell you do you not understand?02:56
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Alakazamz0ryes, it should.02:57
Alakazamz0ryou nay need to downgrade your kerne.l02:57
axa-axaHi, can someone please tell me how can I change behaviour of right alt-gr taster so it works as left alt in console (for example. to be in able to delete word from right with alt+d and so on)?02:57
[BTF] Chm0dk02:57
Alakazamz0ror get the kernel source from kernel.org02:57
[BTF] Chm0dk02:57
[BTF] Chm0dsorry02:57
[BTF] Chm0d<-- im with stupid02:57
Alakazamz0rlol02:57
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timhaughtonWhen I installed my Dapper server, it asked my the IP and port of the http proxy my server uses to access the internet. This doesn't seem to have been set on the installed system. How do I tell the system which http proxy to use?02:57
lucaferrhow do I install sun's java in ubuntu?02:57
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Alakazamz0rlucaferr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22903602:58
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dcordeshttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/02:58
eyedollucaferr, it should be in the repository02:58
defrysklucaferr | !jre02:58
dcordescosmodad http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/02:58
defryskhmmm02:58
zhLilDoggiI need help on installing a Belkin Wireless G Notebook Card02:58
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defrysk!java02:59
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:59
lucaferrok.. well I tried sun-java5-jdk but that didn't work02:59
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eyedolsun-java02:59
eyedollucaferr, try sun-java02:59
noiaok, very odd...I re-installed ubuntu, and now hard drives that were immideatly useable to me before are now not mountable by anyone other than root02:59
cosmodaddcordes: I do have the core package installed... maybe it's the bug issue03:00
jman_ I have samba configured as a PDC but whenever I try to join the domain it says it can't find the username on the domain even though I already created the user using smbpasswd, am I missing something here?03:00
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Rambo3ask bill gates about bugs03:00
wickedpuppyjman_, i would ask in #samba03:00
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dcordescosmodad: but look at what they say about additionally added fonts...03:01
eyedollucaferr, how about this sun-java5-jdk03:01
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lucaferrdoesn't work03:01
dcordescosmodad: you reinstalled after upgrading?03:01
jdtlucaferr: You may need to do a 'sudo apt-get update' first, after you have updated your /etc/apt/sources.list with the multiverse repositories03:01
lucaferrtried apt-get install sun-java and apt-get install sun-java5-jdk03:02
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cosmodaddcordes: no i didn't... haven't added any more fonts than there are available in Ubuntu03:02
cosmodaddcordes: I'll try reinstallation03:02
defrysksun-java5-jre it is03:02
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lucaferrjdt: I have multiverse and I did apt-get update:03:02
lucaferrroot@vm-ubuntu:/etc/apt# apt-get update | grep multi03:02
lucaferrHit http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages03:02
lucaferrHit http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources03:02
defrysklucaferr, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre03:03
lucaferrbut I need the jdk03:03
defrysklucaferr, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk03:03
defryskgeez03:03
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shredderdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse03:04
shredderdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse03:04
shreddersun-java5-jdk, works greate03:04
lucaferr"Package sun-java5-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package."03:04
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lucaferr"This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or" bla,bla03:04
cosmodaddcordes: doesn't seem to help :/03:04
lucaferrpiece of garbage03:04
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shredderuse the lines in sources.list I posted, not yours03:04
defrysklucaferr, apt-cache search sun-java03:04
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shredderyou have dapper-backports.03:04
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[BTF] Chm0dAlakazamz0r: thx for your help im a fookin idiot too early in the morning and not enough coffee :)03:05
dcordescosmodad: dunno then03:05
shredderit should be only dapper03:05
Alakazamz0rno problem [BTF] Chm0d03:05
Alakazamz0r :)03:05
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cosmodaddcordes: alright. Thanks for helping03:06
snikkeranyone use vmware server?03:06
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gebruikerWhat webcam programs are there?03:07
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shreddervmware server works great.03:07
dcordessnikker: nope but i have the workstation distrib here03:07
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shredderwe use it both with 32 bit ubuntu and 64 bit.03:07
dcordessnikker: maybe i can help. what's your problem?03:07
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snikkeri've got a problem with the networking...03:08
dimiassasi need to know which soundcard is able to do hardware mixing if you know tell me please03:08
lucaferrshredder: thanks03:08
lucaferrthat did it03:08
shreddernp03:08
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jdtspeaking of vmware...03:08
jdtI am having troubles running ubuntu 6.06.1 server03:09
noiaright, has anyone been here all night and have complete logs? I was given a /etc/fstab line earlier and I'v lost it and can't recover it...03:09
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jdthost os is edgy tho..03:09
dcordessnikker: remove all existing vmware networks and recompile vmware-server03:09
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dcordesjdt: why would you have a server in a vmware?03:10
noiadcordes: portability?03:10
dcordesoh i see03:10
snikkerdcordes: now i've removed the vmware server, but i can use internet only with the firewall disabled...03:10
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jdtit gets to "uncompressing linux kernel ... Ok... Booting the kernel and sends my proc to 100% and gets no further03:10
dcordessnikker: did this also remove the vmware networks?03:11
shredderdcordes: it great to run multiple test servers under vmware, you can set up a complete testlab on one physical box trivially easy.03:11
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jdtdcordes: Its just for testing. I have to build a secure ftp server tomorrow.03:11
jdthehe03:11
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dimiassasi need to know which soundcard is able to do hardware mixing if you know tell me please03:11
wickedpuppyjdt, you mean sudo apt-get install vsftpd tomorrow ?03:11
snikkerdcordes: if i've removed the vmware i shouldn't have any vmware network, right?03:12
jdtwickedpuppy: well, yes, basically. But also building scripts to move files around, collect files from MSSQL server, and other things too03:12
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snikkerdcordes: if not, how can i remove them?03:13
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dimiassaswhat soundcard supports hardware mixing?03:13
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gerolinhola03:14
dcordessnikker: dunno. ifconfig and see if there are any03:14
wickedpuppydimiassas, if nobody answers after repeating a few times... i think it is reasonable to assume that nobody knows03:14
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snikkerdcordes: with ifconfig i can see only my real network03:15
dimiassascrimsun knows :p03:15
dcordesthen they are removed03:15
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Kim^JHey all... On Edgy... Where can I get the kwin-style-baghira ??? I don't have the style one when installing kwin-baghira...03:16
wickedpuppydimiassas, then perhaps you can ask here if crimsun is alive ?03:16
dcordesi would also reinstall my firestarter or whatever you are using and sudo shutdown -r now03:16
Kim^JI really need the style package too103:16
forsakerhi folkz :D03:16
wickedpuppycause there is no point asking here if he isn't03:16
dcordessnikker: then you see if it worked03:16
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saintsjdI am working at a site where there is no internet access. Is the universe repository available on a series of CDs that I can download and burn and then take to the site with no internet?03:16
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snikkerdcordes: ok, itry to reinstall firestarter...03:17
forsakerdid someone have a problem installing edgy rc... I've got the weird message "no root file system", when choosing mount points even If i assigned the root mount point,.,,03:17
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thefishsaintsjd: not sure, but you could possibly use apt-proxy on a laptop to bring updates in03:17
LeeJunFanwhat should I be looking at to setup a pppoe server?03:17
dcordesforsaker: join #ubuntu+103:17
Alakazamz0rgcc -I.. -I../.. -I../../include -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -mcpu=pentium -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_PART_WORDS -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DAES_ASM   -c -o pk7_attr.o pk7_attr.c03:17
Alakazamz0roops, my bad.03:17
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saintsjdthefish: yes apt-proxy might work... but I wonder what it would take for ubuntu to make a release of universe as a series of ISOs for CD burning.  The site with no internet would need no security updates just access to the original release of universe.03:18
snikkerdcordes: then i'll let you to know if work or not... to later...03:19
thefishsaintsjd: and you would burn a new iso each week?03:19
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luckyhi, when running update on ubuntu, i get the error : dpkg: error processing libghc6-hdbc-missingh-dev (--configure):03:19
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thefishsaintsjd: spose you could do it monthly, still a fair bit of work03:19
saintsjdthefish: no, security updates are not necessary. We only need the original release of universe.03:19
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thefishaah03:19
thefishyou could go and rip it off a mirror then03:20
michaelaoashThe room intro noted "WARNING: nvidia driver has a security problem with a hotfix available from nvidia here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html" Will this appear as an automatic update on ubuntu, or do I need to take action?03:20
saintsjdthefish: how? wget?03:20
thefishye, that would be one way03:20
dcordeslucky: sudo apt-get --configure install libghc6-hdbc-missingh-dev i think03:21
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luckydcordes: says "E: Command line option --configure is not understood"03:21
snikkerdcordes: it work, thanks for support.03:21
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dcordessnikker: nice. i hope it will continue working after you reinstall the vmware03:22
dcordesgl03:22
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snikkerdcordes: i hope it too :-)03:23
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luckydcordes: did you mean dpkg ?03:23
luckydcordes: cause when i do that i get "ghc-pkg: dependency MissingH-0.14.4 doesn't exist (use --force to override)"03:24
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abhinayonly one speaker works ? did i do anything wrong ?03:24
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Stormx2(pssst, programmers / people working. I've got a little radio station up playing post-rock/idm. Its good shiz to listen to while you work (since there are barely ever lyrics). /msg me if you are interested)03:24
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kr4zanybody know how I can purposely make my internet connection go slow?03:24
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dcordeslucky: try man dpkg or man aptitude and see how you reconfigure a pack. i don't know really03:25
dcordeskr4z: why would you try this?03:25
luckydcordes: okay thanks03:25
JosefKkr4z: you could have your packets actually handled by UPS in a really Big Truck03:25
dcordeslmao03:26
kr4zdcordes: I made evolution crash earlier and I'm trying to reproduce it :P03:26
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dcordeswtf lol03:26
luckyi suggest having your cat chew through the ethernet cable :p03:26
dcordesgl03:26
jonkelleset your interface to 10 half duplex.03:26
dcordeshahaha03:26
lucky(actually, that might hurt the cat, so don't :P)03:26
kr4zlol03:26
dcordeslucky: good one03:26
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kr4zjonkelle: how would I do that? would that work?03:27
timhaughtonWhen I installed my Dapper server, it asked my the IP and port of the http proxy my server uses to access the internet. This doesn't seem to have been set on the installed system. How do I tell the system which http proxy to use?03:27
luckykr4z: well, you could attempt to max out your connection, do you have a computer at another site with a greater downlink than your local uplink ?03:27
luckykr4z: just upload a big file to that machine.03:27
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kr4zhmm03:27
luckykr4z: or max out your bittorrent/whatever upload03:27
kr4zI could try that03:27
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dcordeslucky: gravity1337.ytmnd.com03:27
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luckykr4z: it'll drive your pingtimes through ther oof, but won't really screw up your total throughput in terms of KB/s03:28
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WindwalkerHi everybody. Does some body if there a way to edit (not add) items in the right click menu on desktop?03:29
lucaferrwhy can't I see links to synaptic from the desktop/menus?  I'm running as a nis user.. do I need to belong to a certain group?03:29
JosefKkr4z: you could join #2600 on EFNET, that usually works03:29
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thoreauputiclucaferr: yes, I don't think you will see taht unless you are in the "admin" group03:30
thoreauputic*that03:30
lucaferrthoreauputic: any way to modify the group name?03:30
thoreauputiclucaferr: i.e. have sudo rights03:30
JosefKlucaferr: you could add your username to the 'wheel' group (locally), and enable wheel in /etc/sudoers03:30
lucaferrI changed sudo.. through visudo03:30
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thoreauputiclucaferr: you can't run synaptic unless you have sudo rights03:31
mrbond82Has anyone gotten edgy+compiz+xgl working properly?03:31
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lucaferrI fixed sudo, but the desktop still doesn't show synaptic03:31
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JosefKlucaferr: killall gnome-panel03:31
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thoreauputiclucaferr: did you enable admin in sudoers?03:31
JosefKlucaferr: you may have to logout/login again, if killing gnome-panel doesn't work03:31
WindwalkerDoes some body if there a way to edit (not add) items in the right click menu on desktop? Thank you!03:31
lucaferrI added another group..03:32
lucaferr"Domain Admins"03:32
Alakazamz0ri make you spank03:32
lucaferrwhich is the group I belong to in the NIS domain03:32
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thoreauputiclucaferr: the system doesn't know to add graphical access for your new group :)03:32
cjarihi, is there any where I can download netdrv.img?03:32
dcordeshttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/9/4/1/9419f78cb03bd3d22e02e8598e3f70ad.jpg03:33
lucaferrthoreauputic: ok.. I was wondering whether that could be changed.. but it's ok03:33
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thoreauputiclucaferr: it probably can be - but it probbly isn't worth it ( too many things to track down)03:33
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thoreauputiclucaferr: easier to add all "Domain Admin" users to the admin group and make sudoers give rights to "admin"03:34
lucaferrnot very practical, but ok03:35
ScottChcrimsun: ping03:35
thoreauputiclucaferr: depends what rights you want them to have of course03:35
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tuskernini_join #ubuntustudio03:36
hamilhello! having some seriouse issues with the sound on my machine now... The sound on every kind of files is played in a slower speed than usual... it looks like they are played in 50% of normal speed.. have tried to play them in XMMS, VLC, Totem, mPlayer, Listen and others, without any luck.. Anyone have any ideas to what might have happened?03:37
okapiAnyone know how to install Ubuntu on Laptop Gateway with centrinos?03:37
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Cybergood day03:38
Cyber:P03:38
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JfrenchI need help setting up my Mic, is there some secret setting that makes it work, its a Basic 3.5mm jack mic, on SiS SI701203:39
tuskernini_does anyone use bluetooth sending files to and from pc?03:39
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hamiltuskernini: I have, but it has been a while since the last time..03:40
tuskernini_I just got a bluetooth dongle, works fine in receiving files from mobile... but i would like to get more out of my nokia n70 and bluetooth...03:41
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romildoHi.03:42
tuskernini_would like to browse my phone... does anyone have a good app to do it.. tried kmobile and gnokii and .. well have not spent time to figure it out...03:42
skelterhey - i just installed ubuntu and it didn't get my max resolution right...is there a way to fix this?03:42
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|BraiN|hello03:42
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tuskernini_hamil, what did you do with bluetooth.. up and download stuff?03:42
Gandalf86|XKCyou can fix that in your xorg.conf skelter03:43
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Gandalf86|XKCopen a terminal and do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"03:44
timhaughtonWhen I installed my Dapper server, it asked my the IP and port of the http proxy my server uses to access the internet. This doesn't seem to have been set on the installed system. How do I tell the system which http proxy (IP and port) to use?03:44
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skelteri've got it open03:44
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hamiltuskernini_ : i only used it for up and downloading files to and from my cellphone.. but i also rememebr that i did look at gnokii..03:44
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|BraiN|I have a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card..can anyone help me?03:44
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tsolerhi all03:45
Gandalf86|XKCskelter, scroll to the buttom03:45
skelterdone03:45
cyberhmm03:45
cyber200mb worth of updates03:45
tsolervery new to ubuntu - need a question03:45
Gandalf86|XKCthere should be a "Section Screen"03:45
cyberbut do i need them... :/ *ponders*03:45
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tsoleranyone available??03:46
skelterah and a bnch of modes03:46
erUSUL!ask03:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:46
erUSUL!anyone03:46
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:46
tsolerdo i need protection from virus on ubuntu?03:46
joonano03:46
tsoler!!!03:46
erUSULtsoler: no03:46
tsolerwhy si guys?03:46
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tsolersorry so03:47
Gandalf86|XKCyeah just add your modes like its shown there ;) "1024x768" for example03:47
skelterthanks, gandalf.03:47
tsolerare u sure ?03:47
joonatsoler: the simple fact that there's no linux viruses out there.03:47
tuskernini_tsoler, been doing ubuntu for about two years... NO VIRUSSES... ever...03:47
Gandalf86|XKCand add it to the right color depht ;)03:47
skelteryes03:47
erUSULtsoler: there are no virus in linux (short answer)03:47
Lynouretsoler: if you want to have virus scanner on a server to protect the users from windows viruses, yes, then you do need one03:48
|BraiN|I have a pinnacle pctv pro card...Dappers finds it as a hardware, radio is finding frequencies but with no sound, composite works perfect and I can't find any channel when I do scan03:48
tsolerno firewall no antivirus nothing?03:48
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Gandalf86|XKCopen a terminal and do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"03:48
Gandalf86|XKCah sry03:48
tsolershocked03:48
Gandalf86|XKCgot the wrong keyboard xD03:48
chris_tsoler: you need a firewall03:48
Lynouretsoler: firewall you can install, can help in some cases03:48
joonawell, the other option is not to install any random services03:48
hamiljoona: offcourse there are viruses aimed at linux users, but not in the same manner as win viruses..03:48
joonaand you wont need firewall either03:48
thoreauputictsoler: because Ubuntu is properly designed :)03:49
joonahamil: yeah, but can you point me to one?03:49
brynki've got an epson aculaser c1100 printer, it worked fine in dapper, but i'm having no luck installing it in edgy, can anyone help me out?03:49
tuskerninithoreauputic: good answer!03:49
joonai dont think there are any out there in wild at the moment03:49
thoreauputicchris_: he only needs a firewall if he runs internet facing services03:49
Gandalf86|XKCnow my question: is there a 64bit version of beryl ?03:49
godzirraHeya guys.  I just install xserver-xorg but I don't have startx?  Any ideas what I need to install?03:49
vorbotechris_: you don't need a firewall, unless you are offerring services to the internet.03:49
tsolerfor what cases lynnore03:49
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cyber& all the kiddys that create viruses, dont take the time to learn linux03:49
godzirracyber: No, thats not actually true in most cases.03:49
hamiljoona: if you want to read more about viruses for linux, read the following article eg: http://librenix.com/?inode=2103:49
cyber& once they have learnt linux they basically mature enough not to try & break every one elses :P03:49
chris_vorbote: no, you need a firewall to inadvertently prevent you from offering services to the internet03:49
joonahamil: thanks03:50
godzirraIts that they target things that are easier to hit.03:50
dcordesscript kiddies?03:50
cyberlol godzirra its a joke...03:50
chris_vorbote: prevent you from inadvertently, even03:50
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tsolersomewhere i saw a firewall program ,03:50
godzirraAhh, sorry.  hard to tell sometimes on irc :)03:50
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thoreauputicchris_: such as? there are none by default03:50
LynoureI agree with chris_03:50
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ender__hello guys. i installed the ati drivers, the kernel modules etc... But, when i wanna lauch UT, i get this error : sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)03:50
|BraiN|I have a pinnacle pctv pro card...Dappers finds it as a hardware, radio is finding frequencies but with no sound, composite works perfect and I can't find any channel when I do scan can anyone help?03:50
godzirrasooo... I just installed xserver-xorg but I don't have startx?  Any ideas what I need to install?03:50
thoreauputictsoler: install firestarter if you want a simple firewall03:50
ender__oops noo .03:50
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joonahamil: yea, knew that much, read it quick thru03:51
ender__Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:51
ender__WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!03:51
ender__Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual03:51
tsolerfor what cases thoreau..??03:51
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sudharshhi jus a question will edgy always include up-to-date stuff..i mean is it like what testing is to stable in debian..03:51
ender__dri module is activated in xorg.conf03:51
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chris_thoreauputic: yes, and the moment he follows some advice on here or elsewhere to install some package, he may open up a service by accident03:51
godzirraI just want to get my Xorg up and running and dont know what I need to get :(03:51
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thoreauputictsoler: well for example if you install openssh-server or an ftp server etc03:51
thoreauputicchris_: true, I'm addressing that :)03:52
hamiljoona: desktoplinux also had an small article about viruses, that can be found here: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3307459975.html Where they state that there is almost 100 viruses that is a threat to Linux machines (how many for the win machines... ;) he he he)03:52
tsolerno server for the moment , out of my skills:)03:52
LynoureFirewalls are nice for flood control, too, or for keeping your baby brother off the web :)03:52
thoreauputicLynoure: heh03:52
Gandalf86|XKCis there a 64bit version of beryl ?03:52
tsolerwhat do u mean by fllod??03:53
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Rambo3DansGuardian is for that03:53
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ender__Gandalf86|XKC  cant u just compile ?03:53
joonahamil: but i believe that linux viruses stay effective for as long as it takes the author to update package03:53
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ahfeelhi all03:54
radhiosHi all,  i have a problem with my ubuntu, when loading gnome or gnome appl its very slow, but when appl its running the speed is ok!!03:54
joonaa week in most cases03:54
thoreauputicjoobie__: what linux viruses?03:54
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tsolerlynoore : what is the flood control??03:54
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ahfeelanyone already built packages with deamons here please ?03:54
ahfeeli mean including deamons03:54
Ricothat's an interview with a CTO of a linux antivirus company. i wouldn't exactly trust it03:54
Lynouretsoler: it's limiting the rate of connections, to e.g. a web service03:54
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thoreauputicjoobie__: as far as I'm aware the only linux viruses have been "proof of concept"03:54
nomad111hey all how do i setup ipw3945 in ubuntu03:54
Gandalf86|XKCwell ender__ i cant find a emerald package... i just thought i ask... maybe i just did something wrong03:54
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ender__flood control might be prevention of worm like brutal attacks03:54
zhLilDoggiwhose good at installing a wirless driver?03:55
ender__Gandalf86|XKC  u might need extra repos for that. i know its not in the ubuntu repos03:55
cyberprotection of people trying to get into your system etc03:55
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tsoleryou must have a static ip to enable brutal attacks, im i wrong?03:55
cyber!wireless03:55
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:55
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Lynouretsoler: public ip, not necessarily static03:56
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|BraiN|Gandalf86|XKC: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-3396-1.html03:56
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ryctorDudes...03:56
Lynouretsoler: plenty people have same dynanic address for a month or so03:56
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Gandalf86|XKCah thanks |BraiN| i'll read that :)03:56
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tsolerok got it'03:56
|BraiN|;)03:57
nomad111please any103:57
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tsolerso you say that there is not an antivirus program here?? shocked03:57
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Lynoure!anyone > nomad11103:57
timhaughtonOn a server - where should I define the http_proxy environment variable?03:57
thoreauputichmm03:57
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|BraiN|tsoler...there are antivirus programs for linux03:57
Lynouretsoler: there are, clamav, for example03:58
tsoleryou even if im paranoid there is no antivbirus software??03:58
joonatimhaughton: export HTTP_PROXY=something03:58
|BraiN|but for now you don't need it03:58
nomad111Lynoure: i dont kno how to get ipw3945 wireless card working03:58
variantjoona: a week? which hat did you pickthat number from?03:58
joonavariant: my hat03:58
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varianttsoler: clamav is good software for antivirus03:58
nomad111Lynoure: didnt need to install anything03:58
joonavariant: os community is pretty fast03:58
timhaughtonjoona: Where though? Not a user's .bashrc file?03:58
thoreauputiclinux antivirus is mostly for people who want to filter mail etc going to windows machines03:58
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Lynourenomad111: don't ask me, ask the channel03:58
varianttsoler: primarrily used to scan windows partitions and networks03:58
joonatimhaughton: ah, /etc/environment03:58
timhaughtonjoona: OK - many thanks :)03:59
|BraiN|I need someone who can help me with my PCTV card...anyone?03:59
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tsolerwho of you is using an antvir softwre?03:59
ryctorWhat is the pkg again in order to compile stuff?03:59
Lynouretsoler: I am, on a mailserver03:59
rannis this the right place to ask about ubuntu in the enterprise (cough)03:59
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variantthe fact is (afaik) there is no currently active virus capable of replicating its self and infecting linux/bsd systems in the wild03:59
ryctorsomething-essentials?03:59
boogerdoes anyone know of a eBay sniping program other then jbidwatcher??03:59
Zaggynlk9copy is the best :D especially the newest version03:59
thoreauputictsoler: you really don't need it unless, as Lynoure says you are running a mail server or similar03:59
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tsolerlynoore:so u do have an antvir04:00
Lynourerann: go ahead and ask04:00
rannis there a tool which correlates ubuntu USN advisories to installed packages?04:00
Lynouretsoler: I thought I just answered that...04:00
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thoreauputictsoler: to protect windows users04:00
tsolerallright guys04:00
Cyber_inTheDepthtsoler, there are no viruses that will effect a linux machine... its impossible to be infected at the moment04:00
Cyber_inTheDepth:P04:00
rannso i can get a list of known-to-be-vulnerable packages + advisory ala rhel's up2date -vl?04:00
paolob-parroquiaHi guys! gnome-cups-icon sometimes wastes a lot of cpu time (according to gnome system monitor), often I have to kill it. What is the reason? is it a bug?04:00
tsolerim having a windows disk at the moment though04:01
joonayea, in fact i run two virus machines that have antivir software04:01
joonaboth are mail filters04:01
variantdont confuse virus with exploit :) two different things04:01
Cyber_inTheDepthonly people running WinBlows need it, because viruses are specifically designed to exsploit some thing within the windows OS04:01
variantjoona: two virus machines? :P04:01
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joonatwo mailfilters, yes04:01
variantjoona: oh, so not virus factorys then ;)04:01
joonawe have some 1000 domains in hosting04:01
joonahehehe04:02
Cyber_inTheDepthonly reason a linux machine needs AV is so that things being sent through it are eliminated before reaching other windows machines :P04:02
joonaaaah, yeah, got few more of those ;)04:02
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Lynourerann: the desktop systems at least have been configured by default to notify you of updated packages. I do not know about ubuntu server (I use debian on mine)04:02
tsolerjoona: all my work is in this windows disk. Since i use ubuntu for the moment im i in danger or not??!!!04:02
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joonatsoler: nope if you dont boot windows04:02
varianttsoler: your windows disk wont get infected whilst booted into ubuntu04:03
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rannLynoure: i know, however, in an enterprise setting you don't just update a server (usually); you only update for security issues or when a bug is known to affect production.04:03
ryctorexcuse me, guys, but I reinstalled and forgot the pkg needed to have gcc and all the stuff needed to vcompile software, I remember the nameof it was building-essentials or something like it, please help...04:03
variantryctor: build-essential04:03
thoreauputicryanakca: build-essential04:03
ryctorThanks04:03
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tsolerok next boot will be windows,  any possibility virus from ext3 come up??04:03
boogerdo you know of a ebay sniping programs, anyone?04:04
Cyber_inTheDepthryctor, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:04
|BraiN|tsoler if you have a TV card...I suggest the only reason to have winblows....04:04
rannLynoure: and i need to have something like apt-get --dude-show-me-security-updates-only04:04
radhiosany one help me with my slow loading problem????04:04
Lynourerann: if you do apt-date -s dist-upgrade you can easily see what would upgrade, you can cron that04:04
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tsoler2 days ubuntu user, not ready to gett off windows!!!04:04
|BraiN|3 day you'll be ok04:04
rannLynoure:yes, but i would not know if the update in question was a feature-, bug- or security-update!04:04
|BraiN|:P04:04
Lynourerann: you get that to be security updates only be commenting out the nonsecurity lines from sources.list or by grepping for security04:05
boink!edgy04:05
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:05
Rico!schedule04:05
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:05
Lynourerann: patience, I only type so fast when I'm ill04:05
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dcordes|BraiN|: lol you think i watch tv on windows? lol lol04:05
rannok, and that would not break dependencies?04:05
|BraiN|:P04:05
tuskerninitsoler: dont rush it... take your time... i still start up windows once every two months04:05
joonatsoler: erm, what do you mean by ext3 virus?)04:05
|BraiN|dcordes...can you help me watch tv on linux Ubuntu then?04:06
dcordesmabye04:06
Lynourerann: -s is simulate, it does not do anything to the system04:06
wickedpuppy !mythtv04:06
dcordesdepending on your hardware04:06
ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/04:06
|BraiN|cause I did 5 hours googling...nothing04:06
boinkxawtv is good for tv too04:06
|BraiN|i did that04:06
ryctorThanks again guys04:06
|BraiN|nothing happend04:06
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dcordeswhat's your hardware?04:06
|BraiN|Pinnacle PCTV Pro04:06
boinkdoes your tv card have a BTR chip?04:06
|BraiN|card=5204:06
tsolerjoona : a virus on ext3 that is for windows04:06
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rannLynoure: i see. however, a given security update might ref. a newer package without a security update which would b0rk. but that could be worked around i guess04:07
boinklinux works very well on the brooktree chips04:07
|BraiN|yes i know04:07
joonatsoler: ummm... how could virus get into your ext3 partition?)04:07
|BraiN|cause on SUSE i had no prob04:07
|BraiN|the prob is with Ubuntu04:07
wickedpuppytsoler, how does windows read ext3 ?04:07
joonatsoler: and no worries, windows won't even see your ext3 partitions04:07
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boinkyou have reset the tuner in the module?04:07
LaneI have a question, I am looking into doing a little robotics project and am buying the cheapest hardware I can, So my question is how well would ubuntu server deal with 128 Megs of RAM04:07
ryctoralso, I bougt a new usb DVD burner and I was wondering what was the best software for burning dvds in ubuntu?04:07
wickedpuppyryctor, k3b04:07
tsolerive installed a driver for that04:07
Lynourerann: no, it does not do that unless you have packages with  broken version numbers04:07
mince_how can I obtain a list of processes which use sound card?04:07
|BraiN|reset the tuner? I tried tuner= 1 ,3 ,5 ,14,4404:07
thoreauputictsoler: stop worrying :)04:08
|BraiN|for pal04:08
joonamince: lsof /dev/sound04:08
|BraiN|nothing happend04:08
boinkyou know which one it is?04:08
tsolerwickedpuppy: there is s driver04:08
joonaor whateverdevicescalled04:08
mince_joona: tnx04:08
|BraiN|only the composite works04:08
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|BraiN|on suse I had tuner=304:08
|BraiN|worked well04:08
boinkon the card's website, you can find out which tuner it is04:08
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SpCombLane: 128mg should be more than enough04:08
boinkand then on your video card as well, that needs to be set up for the tv viewing too04:08
wickedpuppytsoler, put windows behind you ... i never had sleepless night thinking about virus and spyware on my box for 7 years04:09
joonamince_: could be /dev/dsp too ;)04:09
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mince_joona: I got lsof: status error on /dev/sound: No such file or directory04:09
|BraiN|video card?04:09
joonatry /dev/dsp04:09
|BraiN|hm04:09
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boinkvideo card, yes, maybe another thing to look into04:09
mince_joona: there04:09
Lynourerann: there might be a more straight forward tool, but that's how I'd do it, and I'd subscribe to some lists, e.g. there was no official Ubuntu announcement on the recent Nvidia exploit04:09
joonayea04:09
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boinkand permissions as well04:09
boinktv card = agony04:09
|BraiN|permissions in video0?04:09
chrismhampsonhello again....how do i restore the ubuntu login manager because since installing xubuntu-desktop it has changed04:09
mince_joona. I didnt get anything aout of/dev/dsp04:09
boinkmaybe. I set up a tv card in Debian and Slackware04:10
LaneThank you, SpComb, your help is much appreciated04:10
joonamince_: try sudo04:10
joonasudo lsof /dev/dsp04:10
Lynourerann: (logically because the nonfree driver is not an official part of ubuntu)04:10
|BraiN|I'll try the permissions04:10
|BraiN|the funny thing is04:10
joonagotta get to home, brb in 10 mins04:10
|BraiN|that the radio...finds the frequencies...with strong signal04:10
joonaworking overtime already ;)04:10
|BraiN|but no sound04:10
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SpCombLane: I've run debian sarge on 64mb without any problems at all, so ubuntu server should be fine04:11
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dcordesjoona: you home quick04:11
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mince_joona: I can't use the root pass..no idea why...04:12
quad3datwork2running ubuntu server on p2 233mhz w/ 48mb of ram as wiki server; plus ftp, ssh. runs fine04:12
tsolerok guys it seems im worrying as a  windows - user. No prob i ll have to get used to it:)04:12
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LaneSpComb, thats good to hear do you know of any bluetooth usb device that works with ubuntu easily?04:12
tsolerdoes anyone have an idea on gis?04:12
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wickedpuppywhats gis ?04:12
wickedpuppy!gis04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
tsolergeo information systems04:12
mince_!password04:13
ubotuForgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords04:13
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mince_!sudo04:13
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:13
tsolerif i a can work on gis on ubuntu probably bye bye to windows04:13
tuskernini!gps04:13
ubotugps: Graphical Process Statistics using GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 116 kB, installed size 372 kB04:13
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tsoleri found grass a softwre for gis04:14
jumbersThank god for the Flash 9 Beta release: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/04:14
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mince_!root04:14
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:14
RazvanS!root04:14
wickedpuppymince_, if you got a question pls ask ?04:15
|BraiN|boink: I changed the permissions04:15
|BraiN|same thing04:15
|BraiN|:/04:15
mince_wickedpuppy: I forget root password:) or somehow I cant use any accound password as all seem to be invalid...it's strange04:16
tuskerniniI just started to use bluetooth file transfer... KDE but it works for sending files to phone.. one step further...  cool!04:16
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sobersabrehi, where do I get automatix ?04:16
tsolernext question04:16
tsoleris there a way to roll back drivers here?04:16
wickedpuppymince_, first i never use root ... second i use sudo .. third you should use sudo too04:16
sobersabre( tried the ubuntuforums, but the link is dead...04:16
wickedpuppysobersabre, we do not recommend automatix here04:17
tuskerniniwww.getautomatix.com04:17
wickedpuppy...04:17
sobersabrewickedpuppy, I know. but do you do the opposite ?04:17
mince_wickedpuppy: sudo wants my root password...when I fill it in, it never works...04:17
wickedpuppytuskernini, what is the opposite ?04:17
Lynouremince_: not your root, your own04:17
wickedpuppymince_, sudo doesn't want your root password .. it wants YOURS04:17
sobersabreis "we do not recommend" = "we won't help you to do it!"04:17
teledynis there any way to scp through reverse tunnel?  i am only able to reach the gw box04:17
KenSentMeI installed the acroread package. Should it now be possible to fill in pdf forms?04:18
wickedpuppysobersabre, i never help people to get automatix ... i explain why and help them with their problem04:18
tuskerniniwickedpuppy: not my line...04:18
tsolerguys : can i install a driver on ubuntu that is wrotten for suse?04:18
sobersabreteledyn, can you describe in simlpe words WHAT you want ?04:18
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mince_so what stands for "sudo bash" ?04:18
sobersabrewickedpuppy, automatix has a list of misc. packages I need. I can do them automatically. Why NOT ?04:18
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teledynah maybe it was just a syntax issue after all04:19
Lynouretsoler: in some cases, at least, but it might mean compiling it yourself or other hassle04:19
sobersabremince_, it stands "run bash as root"04:19
thoreauputicsobersabre: because automatix is a disaster area ?04:19
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wickedpuppysobersabre, your choice .. i just do not recommend , i never ask you NOT to use it. recommendation != forcing people04:19
tsoleri must update my video card04:19
mince_and sudo apt-get install, for example?04:19
thoreauputicsobersabre: if you need evidence, ask any op around here04:19
sobersabrethoreauputic, as long as you understand what it does, you can _afford_ using it.04:20
bioshatersobersabre: cause automatix does more than that. it puts funny repos in your sources.list, leading to all kinds of dependency problems later.04:20
boink!flash 904:20
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html04:20
thoreauputicsobersabre: if you undersand wwhat it does, you don't need it04:20
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sobersabrebioshater, IT depends which packages you choose to use, and you always should have a backup of sources.list, before you allow "funny" scripts to modify it.04:20
tsolerlynnore: i found a new driver for my card, i want to install it but if i get bad results how can i remove it??04:20
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kujaHow do you get Totem to play .mov's? (gstreamer, and no, I don't want to use xine)04:21
wickedpuppysobersabre, there is no need to defend yourself , just use it. we just express our opinion it. its your call04:21
sobersabrethoreauputic, gathering all the packages now manually on a clean system is LONGER than yo use automatix.04:21
Lynouretsoler: First tell what driver are you talking about? Where did you get it?04:21
thoreauputicsobersabre: do as you please - I won't stop you :)04:21
sobersabreI have asked where the hell it lies now, since I have missed it in the default forums location.04:21
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bioshatersobersabre: its not only a matter of backing up sources.list. once you have installed some packages with the automatix-generated sources.list, you will be in dependency hell, even if you revert to your previous sources.list04:22
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Yggdrasilterminus are you around ?04:22
tsolerits for my graphic card. found on intell04:22
wickedpuppybioshater, pls .. its enough ....04:22
|BraiN|bye04:22
sobersabrebioshater, you need to install antifanatix04:23
sobersabresoon.04:23
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sobersabre:)04:23
thoreauputicOK - #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway -->>>>04:23
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Lynouretsoler: The intel card has good free drivers in ubuntu04:23
tsolerlynoore: it says its for suse. can i use it on ubuntu?04:23
Lynouretsoler: see above04:23
tsolergoogle earth prompts me04:23
American-TechLookiing for help with sound. I can not get sound working04:24
skelterhi - having trouble getting my desired screen resolution to show up in the "screen resolution" preference panel. i added "1280x1024" to the depth 24 area in xorg.conf...04:24
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erUSUL!fixres04:24
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:24
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Lynouretsoler: Sorry, I know nothing of Google Earth. But you should be able to get 3d with the free drivers, really04:24
skelterthanks04:24
teledynugh.  i'm trying to scp via reverse ssh tunnel but for some reason it tries to copy to the gw box04:24
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mthahello, can anyone tell me how to install shockwave flash plugin? thanks04:25
tsolerit prompt that i need an update04:25
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Constrictormtha: you can try automatix, it makes it very easy04:25
nolimitsoyamtha, its in the repos, in multiverse04:25
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tsoleris out there a repository for drivers i wonder?04:26
American-TechLooking for help getting sound going04:26
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mthais it, thanks04:26
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gebruiker_hai04:26
Constrictor;-)04:27
Yggdrasilcan somone help me out with cups. i thought i had everythign setup client/server sort of thing when i go into the cups http gui and print a test page comes out fine. but when i print from my client i just get like 3 lines of text.04:27
nolimitsoyatsoler, google at first, to find out if there is a driver that might be in any repos, at first. though i can tell you, there most certanly isnt ;)04:27
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tsolernolie: hi04:28
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noiais there a way to intall "normal" firefox rather then the ubunturised version?!04:29
tsolernolie: i found an intel update04:29
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noia*install04:29
boyyo04:29
tsolerits for suse04:29
tsolercan fit?04:29
boyis ubuntu beetje goeie besturingsysteem?04:29
nolimitsoyatsoler, then run it, if its a newer, better driver than what comes with ubuntu. rpm:s can be converted to deb, using alien. sudo apt-get install alien, and man alien04:30
Yggdrasilnoia i bet u got to firefox website and download a .bin file for installation.04:30
boykan iemand mij beetje vertelen04:30
nolimitsoyaboy, english please :)04:30
nolimitsoyaor find a dutch channel ;)04:30
boyooh ok04:30
erUSUL!de04:30
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:30
tuskerniniboy: wat wil jy weet?04:30
tuskernini!nl04:30
nolimitsoyaerUSUL, that wasnt german ;)04:30
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl04:30
boyja04:30
noiaYggdrasil: that would certainly be one way of doing it, but I'd prefer it to take the place of the old ff04:30
boy\over ubuntu?04:31
Yggdrasilnoia just apt-get remove firefox04:31
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Yggdrasiland then install the one from the binary04:31
Angryelf_can anyone think of a reason I can forward high numbered ports to apache and it works outside of my Linksys router fine, but if i forward port 80 it doesn't work?04:31
tuskerniniboy: tik in /join #ubuntu-nl04:31
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noiaYggdrasil: that'll remove  firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome-app-install gxine yelp04:32
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nolimitsoyaAngryelf, maybe couse port 80is used for communication with you router?04:32
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devilzhi, why do i need GPG key for source.list?04:32
Yggdrasilhmm..04:32
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miranda82hi people04:32
Yggdrasilnoia well you got me sounds like you should be running debian.04:32
nolimitsoyanoia, just build the binary, and run it from a launcher04:32
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miranda82how can i revert ndiswrapper -m ?04:33
tsolernoli: what is allien for?04:33
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nolimitsoyatsoler, thats why you should read the manpages. ;) its a utility for converting packages between packagingsystems04:33
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miranda82hello?04:45
noianolimitsoya: thats all well and fine, but when I go to open a link via another application it will default to the "broken" firefox and not the new ones..04:45
nolimitsoyamiranda82, ?04:45
miranda82hello nolimitsoya04:45
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nolimitsoyanoia, thats true, unless you keep a window open att all times04:45
tsolernolie: haha what is manpages then?04:45
miranda82i though maube my message did not was sent to chat04:45
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noianolimitsoya: I'd rather not.04:45
nolimitsoyatsoler, run the commands i gave you, and youll see04:45
SkipQuestion: My gateway with intel high definition audio does not have a mic input on the mixer - any ideas?04:45
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miranda82does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?04:45
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tsoleri ve just installed allien, what is next nolie please04:45
Angryelf_nolimitsoya: I dunno, if i access the webpage locally there's no problem getting it over :80....only from outside04:45
nolimitsoyatsoler, type 'man alien'04:45
tsolerin terminal or what?04:45
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nolimitsoyaAngryelf, thats what i told you. since port 80 is used for outer configuration, its blocked from the outside for security reasons. you can fix that by setting up a dmz04:45
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nolimitsoya*router04:45
nolimitsoyatsoler, yes04:45
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melvindoes enyone can tell me how can i install netbeans, eclipse, mono, monodevelop and kdevelop?04:45
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nolimitsoyamelvin, sudo apt-get <name of program to install>04:45
Angryelf_nolimitsoya: I dont really want all of my webservers ports exposed by a dmz04:45
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nolimitsoyaAngryelf, which is why youll have to set up a iptables firewall on the server04:45
melvini tried that04:45
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nolimitsoyamelvin, search synaptic for the exact package name then04:45
nolimitsoyaand add addition repos04:45
nolimitsoya*additional04:45
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mrmknetI am trying to install nvidia driver.. the installer asks for the kernel source tree.. I tried apt-get install kernel-source but no package with this name was found.. How to get the source tree?04:45
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miranda82please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?04:45
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nolimitsoyamrmknet, install headers for your kernel. search synaptic04:45
melvinis there a page where i cand find good how_to on Ubuntu, I know a thing or two but i used gentoo04:45
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nolimitsoyamrmknet, also, sudo apt-get install build-essential <- that will sort lots of problems04:45
melvinand portage has all of that so i dindt learn much jeje04:45
American-Techlooking for help with sound04:45
sobersabreok, I must apologize, for being a bit stubborn04:45
nolimitsoyamelvin, try the debian documentation04:45
poerMy little brother is growing up, and my 'rents want some sort of net nanny stuff.... we run debian/ubuntu. I need advice. I'd be satisfied with simply monitoring instead of restricting. Would tcpdump do this, or is there a better way?04:45
Angryelf_nolimitsoya: okay, i put the host as the DMZ yet still can't connect04:45
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miranda82please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?04:45
nolimitsoyaAngryelf, then something is up with your server config04:45
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ianmacgregormelvin: Try http://ubuntuforums.org , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation04:45
catalyticpoer, unplug the ether04:45
catalytictheres a really good one poer04:45
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catalytichang on ill get it04:45
melvinthanks04:45
poerthat occured to me, but i was really hoping for a software solution04:45
|_SpY_|i have installed a new version of php using apt get... but i have some problems with php5... anybody knows how i how back that installation.. and use old version of php?04:45
sparkleytonei just did a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper04:45
sparkleytoneand now i can't ssh to the box04:45
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miranda82please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?04:45
sparkleytoneit just closes the connection as soon as i make it04:45
mrmknetmoloimitsoya: I have to take both steps?04:45
sobersabrethere was a desltop administration tool with a strange name, introduced in gnome2.1404:45
sobersabrewhat was its name ?04:45
nolimitsoyamrmknet, what steps? build-essential will get you everything you need to build04:45
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sparkleytonehas anyone seen this problem?04:45
sobersabre( it allows to configure user's desktops04:45
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sparkleytoneits not logging any errors04:45
mrmknetand no need for searching synaptic for linux-headers?04:45
sobersabresparkleytone, maybe the signature of the server has changed04:45
sparkleytonewhy would it regenerate the keys?04:45
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poercan the box he uses be set up to filter it's own net traffic?04:45
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sobersabresparkleytone, what do you mean "cannot connect"04:45
sobersabre ?04:45
sparkleytonessh im04:45
sparkleytoneConnection closed by 10.2.3.1504:45
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sparkleytoneRead from socket failed: Connection reset by peer04:45
miranda82please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?04:45
catalyticdriftnet04:45
sobersabresparkleytone, then, you need to increase logging verbosity on the server and read its logs04:45
SkipAnybody have a  Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller ?04:45
poermiranda82, did you try 'sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper'04:45
sparkleytonei increased it to DEBUG sobersabre ... still nothing in the syslog ... what other log would it be in?04:45
sobersabrebesides. have you done no changes to the network hardware ?04:45
zhLilDoggiokay, now I got the wireless card detected, now it don't connect to anything04:45
sobersabresparkleytone, and where are you looking for problems ?04:45
|_SpY_|i have installed a new version of php using apt get... but i have some problems with php5... anybody knows how i how back that installation.. and use old version of php?04:45
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miranda82poer, i gonna try04:45
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sobersabresparkleytone, sorry, look in /var/log, debug, auth, daemon etc.04:45
sobersabregrep for sshd04:45
poermiranda82, that should disable the module04:45
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miranda82poer, will that void ndiswrapper to be loaded at startup?04:45
miranda82poer, cuz it actually disables the module04:45
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ZSuserHi all people !!!04:46
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stm^_^04:46
sparkleytonesobersabre: nothing04:46
poermiranda, i'm not sure, sorry04:46
sobersabreguys, I have a shitty sis74x vga adapter.04:46
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stmsome1 use AI RoboForm from Linux? Or there are any alt progs?04:46
sobersabreI do see glxinfo with extensions, but glxgears CRAWLS.04:46
sparkleytonethis is killing me04:46
sparkleytonei can telnet the port and it returns SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.104:47
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sobersabresparkleytone, are you sure you've restarted sshd on the server, and have enabled the logging ?04:47
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poermiranda, see if this helps: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Remove_a_driver04:47
sparkleytonesobersabre: yup04:47
stmSome1 use AI RoboForm from Linux? Or there are any alt progs? It's password-base and auto-former04:47
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sobersabreconnection reset is usually something done by Intrusion Protection systems,04:48
sobersabreIt is not common to reset the connection04:48
Guardianhi, is it possible to do export DISPLAY to multiple displays ???04:48
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zhLilDoggigrr, darn pc04:48
sobersabreGuardian, what are you trying to achieve ?04:48
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sparkleytone:/04:49
Guardiansobersabre: having my nokia 770 use its lcd screen and also export display to a pc+beamer through wifi04:49
mrmknetInstalled build-essential and linux-headers but still the nvidia installer  cant find the kernel source tree, where is kernel source path located?04:49
sobersabresparkleytone, have you done any network related hardware/software changes ? ( iptables rule... )04:49
sparkleytonethis is highly upsetting04:49
sparkleytonenope.  iptables isn't used.  only change is dist-upgrade, which while big shouldn't cause this problem.04:49
sparkleytoneeverything else is working fine it seems04:49
crimsunmrmknet: linux-headers-$(uname -r)  should populate /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build04:49
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sobersabresparkleytone, have you upgraded the kernel, rebooted etc. ?04:50
sparkleytonenot changing kernels04:51
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sparkleytonewill continue to use my own04:51
mrmknetcrimsun: no folder there named build04:51
sparkleytonedo i really need to reboot?  its not in the docs.04:51
|_SpY_|i have installed a new version of php using apt get... but i have some problems with php5... anybody knows how i how back that installation.. and use old version of php?04:51
nolimitsoyamrmknet, have you run apt-get install build-essential?04:51
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mrmknetyes04:52
nolimitsoyamrmknet, have you searched synaptic for your kernel headers?04:52
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mrmknetyes04:52
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crimsunmrmknet: ensure that linux-headers-$(uname -r) is in fact installed04:53
sobersabresparkleytone, after upgradeing things like glibc, modutils, etc. it is not so bad to reboot.04:53
nolimitsoyamrmknet, have you told the nvidia installer what version of gcc it should use?04:53
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nolimitsoyashould be same as kernel was compiled with...04:53
nolimitsoya3.4 for dapper04:53
nolimitsoya4.0 for edgy04:53
nolimitsoyai think...04:53
ScottChcrimsun: I have responded on #trilug, if you get a moment free.  Thanks.04:53
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mrmknetnolmitsoya:no, it is just asking for the kernel source tree04:53
mrmknetcrimsun. Waht does $(uname -r) stands for?04:54
crimsunmrmknet: it's a command04:54
nolimitsoyamrmknet, yes, is asked me that to before i told it what compiler to use.04:54
Guardiansobersabre: is it possible or does export DISPLAY work only with a single remote ip/host ?04:54
mrmknethow to tell it which compiler to use?04:54
zhLilDoggihold up, do you need a wep key for wirless to work in ubuntu?04:55
KenSentMeIs automatix2 advisable to new users?04:55
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nolimitsoyazhLilDoggi, if you try to connect to a wep network ;)04:55
sobersabreGuardian, no.04:55
zhLilDoggimines not a wep network though...04:55
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Traeanyone know if Edgy will be released soon?04:56
devilzdoes anyone know how to fix new xserver-xorg-core?04:56
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nolimitsoyazhLilDoggi, then you should make it one, right now!04:56
zhLilDoggiwhen I try to activate the wireless card it takes a crap long time04:56
nolimitsoyadevilz, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:56
mrmknetnolimitsoya: how to tell the installer which version to use?04:56
poermiranda, you there anywhere?04:56
nolimitsoyamrmknet, i forgot. :) google is your friend04:56
nolimitsoyapoer, she left04:57
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poermissed the notice... i guess she figured it out04:57
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poerlater guys04:57
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KenSentMe!automatix204:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatix2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
KenSentMe!automatix04:57
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!04:57
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Vuenquestion, is there any way to convert a vfat partition to ext3 without losing/backup up the data?04:58
zhLilDoggiso yeah...it don't connect to nothing, but ndiswrapper says the driver, hardware is present04:58
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sparkleytonesobersabre: http://paste.lisp.org/display/2854904:58
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cigahi04:58
zhLilDoggiplus, theres no lights the card04:58
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cigaI've just upgraded to edgy, but my Xorg runs without direct rendering. I don't have fglrx installed since I have a card with rv280 chipset. glxinfo says /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch. Can you help me with this?04:59
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mattmattmattis anyone alive04:59
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nolimitsoyaciga, rv280 should be nvidia-legacy04:59
nolimitsoyaright?04:59
ShadowthroneHow can I cd into directories whose names have spaces in them?04:59
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geokokIs ot possible to have tv-out with Nvidia 5200 FX?05:00
devilznolimitsoya: I get error05:00
ciganolimitsoya: rv280 is an ati one.05:00
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SubhumanShadowthrone, umm escape the space with a /05:00
ciganolimitsoya: but I try to use the dri from Xorg.05:00
nolimitsoyaciga, my bad :)05:00
SubhumanShadowthrone, or jus TAB complete the name05:00
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Subhumanpush tab when youve typed a few letters of it and it will complete the rest05:01
devilznolimitsoya: can i paste you the error of xorg?05:01
nolimitsoya!pastebin05:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:01
Ranbeeis there an easy way to sync firefox and opera's bookmarks?05:01
sobersabresparkleytone, do you have "Protocol 1,2" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?05:01
ShadowthroneSubhuman: wicked, thanks.05:01
sparkleytonesobersabre: http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#105:01
sobersabreguys, I have a problem with glx05:01
sobersabrehere's a paste:05:01
sparkleytonesobersabre: have Protocol 205:01
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sobersabreand in the client ?05:02
geokokcan anyone tell me if i can activate tv-out with nvidia 5200? I am running edgy and have the repo drivers installed05:02
sobersabresparkleytone, and in the client - in /etc/ssh/ssh_config05:02
sobersabre ?05:02
Vuen!tv-out05:02
ubotuFor help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition05:02
Vuen:)05:02
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geokokthank you fellows05:03
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sparkleytonesobersabre: it all worked fine.  then upgraded server.  now it doesn't work.05:03
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devilznolimitsoya: hm i went to paste on that site what now?05:03
Qaldunehi05:03
Qaldunei've installed apache2 and php5 mod for apache using apt-get05:03
Qaldunenow i'm trying to make a hello world in php and it doesn't show anything05:03
Qaldunewhat could i try to do to fix that?05:04
sobersabreguys, please take a look: http://paste.lisp.org/display/28550 , xorg is SLOW.05:04
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miranda82is there a way to discover the range of ip's in a lan that has not DHCP?05:04
Qaldunei'm running ubuntu dapper and apache2 and php seem both to be properly configured05:05
nolimitsoyamiranda82, in you dhcp servers settings05:05
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Vuenmiranda82: 169.254.X.X05:05
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bioshatersobersabre: is everything slow or just 3d?05:05
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Vuenmiranda82: standard class B private addressing05:05
miranda82Vuen, u're kidding05:05
Vuennioe05:05
Vuennope*05:05
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nomad111is there a specific reason why download rate drops badly after half-way through download a package using synaptic05:05
sobersabrebioshater, eveything05:05
sobersabre( x related )05:06
Vuenmiranda82: it's 169.254.x.x with a 255.255.0.0 subnet mask05:06
miranda82nolimitsoya, i mean, i plug the cable, but i have no ip, and there is no mac filtering...05:06
Vuenanything in there is valid05:06
miranda82Vuen, have u read mi question?05:06
nomad111!mp305:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:06
bioshatersobersabre: 3d would be no surprise, cause there is no 3d h/w accel support for that sis card in Xorg05:06
cigamiranda82: ipcalc, ip + subnet mask will defined the hostmax05:06
katsu_mooooDoes anyone know how the official way to determine which Ubuntu release is installed on a system?05:06
Vuenyes, i read your question. there's no dhcp, so you want the range of ip addresses. that's the range. 169.254.x.x05:06
miranda82ciga, but i have no ip..05:06
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LaneAnyone know where I can ask an odd electrical/battery powered desktop question?05:07
miranda82Vuen, i really don understand you05:07
cigamiranda82: oh ic.05:07
miranda82Vuen, cuz it can be 192.168.30.40, for the router05:07
bioshatersobersabre: glxgears depends on h/w supported 3d to run smooth05:07
miranda82Vuen, 4 example05:07
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bioshater*h/w accelerated05:08
Vuenmiranda82: yes, class c is also a valid range, but it's very uncommon without dhcp05:08
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snoopsmay as well type it out in here Lane05:08
miranda82Vuen, but i need to connect to the lan, and i just want to know, what ip i must set05:08
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miranda82Vuen, but i don't know how to figure it05:08
Qaldunewhat should i do if apache doesn't run the php scripts i write??05:09
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Vuenmiranda82: okay, well what other machines are on the lan? are they windows machines?05:09
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miranda82Vuen, yes05:09
Vuenmiranda82: windows machines without dhcp default to 169.254.x.x05:09
Qaldunei've installed php and apache and put the script as index.html in the right folder05:09
Vuenset an address in that range with a 255.255.0.0 subnet mask.05:09
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Qaldunecan anyone plz help me?05:09
miranda82Vuen, it's not a default net...05:10
catalyticcan anyone help me build this?05:10
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Vuensorry Qaldune, i don't know anything about apache :(. try in #apache05:10
catalytichttp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/driftnet/driftnet_0.1.6-7_i386.deb05:10
ptyQaldune: save it as index.php?05:10
snoopsQaldune, php should only be executing .php files.. it depends on your php.ini config05:10
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Vuenmiranda82: then just go on one of the windows machines and see what address it's using.05:10
sobersabrebioshater, I understand. Q. is how BAD can operate a 64MB card.05:10
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miranda82Vuen, does not matter...05:10
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miranda82thx anyway...05:10
Vuenwell i don't understand what you're asking05:11
Lanealright, any ideas on how to battery power a desktop computer for 30 minutes or more sans UPS05:11
Qaldunesnoops: should the default config works?05:11
Vuenyou have windows machines without a dhcp... i guarantee they are all 169.254.x.x05:11
Vuenunless they have been explicitely set to something else05:11
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snoopsQaldune the default just does .php files I believe..05:11
miranda82Vuen, i just wan't to know how to discover the ip adress of other machines, without having a valid ip adress05:11
miranda82Vuen, they all depend from a router05:11
Qalduneonly php files?05:11
bioshatersobersabre: i also have a sis card (onboard). 2d is okay, only 3d accel is not supported (and probably never will, because sis does not release any specs to open source developers)05:11
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miranda82Vuen, the router sets the ip of the net05:11
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Vuenmiranda82: they depend on a router, but they don't use dhcp?05:12
Qalduneso if i put a php script in a .html it won't work?05:12
Vueni highly doubt that05:12
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miranda82Vuen, i was thinking of programming some kind of arp rquest05:12
bioshatersobersabre: so your card is also slow when you are just moving windows around on the desktop?05:12
sobersabrebioshater, I see, All I want is that Xorg would run smooth05:12
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miranda82Vuen, have u ever made a lan...?05:12
snoopsQaldune, correct, because apache is looking for .php files to send to the php executable05:12
Qaldunewell i'm gonna try that snoops05:12
Vuenbecause the machines would need to have manually configured dns servers, and so on to work05:12
Vuenyes, i've made a lan05:12
sobersabrebioshater, yes, it sux.05:12
Vueni took two years of cisco networking05:12
sobersabrewhat sis card do you have ? how much mem does it have ?05:13
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miranda82Vuen, so u must know that u can set the router ip as dns...05:13
bioshatersobersabre: hmm, i don't have that problem. which ubuntu version do you run?05:13
Vuenand for a router to work without using dhcp, the internal machines need a wide variety of configuration options to actually be able to communicate across the router05:13
sobersabre6.06.105:13
Vuenyes, but you still need to configure a lot of stuff on the clients05:13
Qaldunesnoops: thx dude it worked05:13
Vuenit's pointless when you can just dhcp, so nobody does it05:13
miranda82Vuen, ...05:13
sobersabredo you use sisfb ?05:13
snoopsyou're welcome Qaldune :)05:13
bioshatersobersabre: i run dapper too, only with xfce instead of gnome  (xubuntu)05:13
marcell_Hi, all. Do someone knows, if Edgy Eft will be able through ShipIt? And if so, when? THX for help05:13
Qaldune:)05:13
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miranda82Vuen, do u know a way or not?05:13
Qaldunei've got another doubt but i think that's not very hard...05:14
sobersabrebioshater, xfce uses far more features of xorg, than the default gnome installation of ubuntu ( e.g. composition etc. )05:14
Qaldunecan i upgrade to the next ubuntu release without burning any cd?05:14
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Vuensure. set your ip to 169.254.x.x, broadcast a ping. then set your ip to 192.168.0.x, repeat. 192.168.1.x, repeat.05:14
Qaldunejust using apt-get or something alike?05:14
Vueneventually you'll get responses.05:14
bioshatersobersabre: not by default05:14
defryskQaldune, if you did not install anything obscure it should be doable05:15
miranda82Vuen, in 2 years of cisco networking they haven t told you that ping is not a obligatory response?05:15
Vuenmiranda82: the easiest way is just to go sit in front of one of the windows machines, pull out the keyboard, and type "ipconfig".05:15
Qalduneanything obscure could mean something in official repositories?05:15
Vuenmiranda82: yes, i know, you better hope the windows machines aren't blocking in05:15
Vuenit*05:15
[H] 3b0Ranyone here banned from cedega for no reason?05:15
miranda82Vuen, very clever... i see how cisco netowrking level is...05:16
miranda82lol05:16
defryskQaldune, anything outside the official repos, automatix etc05:16
Vuenmiranda82: the question you're asking is ridiculous. are you trying to hack into a network or something?05:16
Intangir[H] 3b0R: is not paying no reason?05:16
miranda82more or less05:16
Vuenbecause if you're the sysadmin, just go type "ipconfig" into a console05:16
[H] 3b0RIntangir: no?05:16
Qalduneok05:16
Qaldunethx defrysk05:16
miranda82i just want to know the adresses of the other machines05:16
Intangir[H] 3b0R: oh. well then no?05:16
Vuenotherwise, sorry, but i don't know enough about cracking, and frankly i don't really want to help you.05:16
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Qaldunec ya guys05:16
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bioshatersobersabre: maybe the problem only occurs with your specific sis model. which one is it? lspci -n | grep 0000:01:00.005:16
defryskQaldune, for more questions go to #ubuntu+105:16
ptymiranda82: have you tried etherape?05:17
miranda82pty, etherape?05:17
Qalduneok05:17
miranda82pty, kind of ethereal?05:17
ptysimilar05:17
miranda82pty, u mean sniffing packets and check the headers?05:17
[H] 3b0RIntangir, ok, im banned for no reason, maybe i gave tomuch support,since i wa sthe only one who answered people:P05:17
sobersabrebioshater, 10de:0110 (rev b2)05:17
Intangir[H] 3b0R: thats weird05:17
ptymiranda82: it draws a diagram of the network on the fly05:17
[H] 3b0Ryes05:17
miranda82pty, wow, impressive05:17
Intangir[H] 3b0R: i suppose you could make a new ID? or email them05:18
miranda82pty, but the problem is that i have not a correct ip adress for the network05:18
marcell_Hi, all. Do someone knows, if Edgy Eft will be able through ShipIt? And if so, when? THX for help05:18
Vuenmiranda82: if you're interested in cracking into a network, you should download nUbuntu05:18
patientSee you guys, I gotta go05:18
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Vuenand learn the tools it has. one of them is bound to do exactly what you want.05:18
ptyhuh?  so you're not on the network?05:18
sobersabrebioshater, have you got the pci id ?05:18
[H] 3b0RIntangir: its no great problem, i just think its so weird...05:18
bioshatersobersabre: 10de, are you sure? 10de is the vendor code for nvivdia, sis would be 103905:18
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miranda82pty, ok, it's a WLAN i got the key, but somehow the router has dhcp disabled05:18
Intangir[H] 3b0R: i used to post alot of useful info, buti  stopped paying and now i cant post ;)05:19
Intangir[H] 3b0R: their loss ;)05:19
miranda82and my friend won't come back until 2 motnhs05:19
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[H] 3b0RIntangir: its the irc channel im talking about...05:19
miranda82pty, and the router does not give me ip05:19
Intangirmiranda82: you might be able to just manually set an IP in the right range, and get access again05:19
Vuenmiranda82: you've got a wireless key to a network, but dhcp is disabled?05:19
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Vuenthat's funny... you almost certainly have the wrong key05:20
Intangir[H] 3b0R: oh whats the IRC channel?05:20
ptymiranda82: can you plug it in with a cable?05:20
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miranda82pty, no..05:20
miranda82pty, it's in his flat05:20
Vuenmiranda82: dhcp is almost certainly enabled, what's more likely is you just have the wrong key.05:20
miranda82Intangir, i don  knwo the range...05:20
[H] 3b0RIntangir: yes, #cedega on this network05:20
sobersabrebioshater  :) you're right, wrong tty :)05:20
miranda82Vuen, believe me..05:20
[H] 3b0RIntangir: can u do me a favor go in there and ask?05:20
Vuenwell, how do you know you have the right key?05:20
miranda82Vuen, he gave me05:20
ptymiranda82: install kismet; if his network has wpa and his dhcp is disabled i'd give up05:21
Intangir[H] 3b0R: id rather not ;) just use irssi thru some shell account05:21
ryctorif you get an ip05:21
miranda82Vuen, i cracked05:21
sobersabrebioshater, 1039:632505:21
miranda82Vuen, both05:21
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Intangir[H] 3b0R: or here ill tell you an op to message05:21
valehruHey guys, is there a way I can play music through beep media player while watching a movie at the same time in totem?  Currently beep displays the error "Couldnt open audio"05:21
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dcordesmiranda82: are you talking about a wireless router or a wireless AP only?05:21
miranda82dcordes, um05:22
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miranda82AP i think05:22
bioshatersobersabre: yeah, i have that one in my shuttle barebone05:22
Vuenmiranda82: in the time it took you to ask this, you could have just written a script to broadcast pings on each network. windows xp by default DOES respond to ping, so you'd almost certainly get a response somewhere.05:22
dcordesso your router and ap are two sperate devices?05:22
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miranda82Vuen, aish..05:22
bioshatersobersabre: and it runs okay in 1024x768/16bpp05:22
Vueni'm currently on a network with 4 xp machines05:22
Vueni just tested, and all 4 respond to ping05:22
miranda82ok05:22
dcordesmiranda82: so your router and ap are two sperate devices?05:23
exilecan someone help i'm trying to install ati drivers and it says the following line sudo apt-get install ubuntu-fglrx-amd64generic but all i get is E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) could someone help.05:23
Intangir[H] 3b0R: maybe your name is too 'l33tspeak' for them05:23
sobersabrebioshater, I am enabling sisfb, and rebooting.05:23
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sobersabreacc. to driver's author sisfb is the key.05:23
miranda82dcordes, no, sorry05:23
sobersabrebye05:23
Vuenif you don't get any responses, i highly doubt all of the windows machines are blocking it; what's more likely is that you just don't have the right key.05:23
miranda82dcordes, bothe are the same05:23
JuJuBeeShould I be using java from Sun or the package from Synaptic?05:23
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dcordesmiranda82: well do you have the login data to your internet connection?05:23
dcordesfrom your provider?05:23
miranda82dcordes, ???????????05:24
VuenJuJuBee: you mean the sun package from universe?05:24
miranda82wtf?05:24
dcordesmiranda82: wtf? i'm trying to help stoopid thing05:24
JuJuBeeNot sure what I mean, just know I am getting errors trying to run a .jar file.05:24
Paddy_EIRE!krita05:24
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 2516 kB, installed size 7976 kB05:24
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dcordesforget about lolz help yourself05:24
Vuendcordes: he's trying to crack into a network. he's apparently 'cracked' the wireless key, but dhcp is disabled.05:24
JuJuBeeSO, what java should I install?05:24
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miranda82Vuen, she05:24
dcordesVuen: she said it was in her own flag05:25
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tsoleris nolie here?05:25
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VuenJuJuBee: if you're not concerned about using proprietary software, activate the universe/multiverse repositories and apt-get install sun-java-jre05:25
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Vuenor java-sun-jre05:25
Vueni forget what it's called05:25
Vuen!java05:25
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:25
dcordeswhy wouldn't she just do a reset with a pencil and type in the login data lol05:25
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Vuensun-java5-jre05:25
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devilzwhy why do i have problems with updating xserver-xorg-core to 1.0.205:25
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dcordesmiranda82: btw how did you crack in?05:25
dcordes''05:25
miranda82dcordes, just to check my friend gave me the correct one05:26
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dcordesi didn't ask how but why05:26
[H] 3b0RIntangir: what you mean with irssi inside an shell account?05:26
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dcordesreset the router to default settings and retype in your login dataq05:26
miranda82dcordes, i told u why05:26
skelanyone installed zenoss on ubuntu? I've got dapper server installed and I installed snmpd but I don't have any snmpconf script to run?05:26
miranda82dcordes, it 's in my mate's flat05:26
dcordesi didn't ask fpr a why but for a how05:27
dcordeswhy don't you ask your mate?05:27
dcordes??05:27
miranda82he's in holidays for 2 months05:27
ptyphone him?05:27
dcordesyea05:27
miranda82i cracked it sniffing, and injecting05:27
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miranda82dcordes, he gave me the correct key05:27
Vuenmiranda82: the best way to go about this is to get nUbuntu and get acquainted with its software. you don't need an ip address if you have the right software; you can just sniff the packets going across the wireless and see what ips they have.05:27
dcordesmaybe mac filtering is enabled05:27
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Intangir[H] 3b0R: i asked about you, no one is saying anything, the channel is dead05:28
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ptywhat encryption is he using?05:28
hahahaa question for you rsync gurus: I have  a file here at the office that is big but farked up and a good copy at home. I want to fix the bad copy here from the good copy at home. I try using rsync -avz and it doesn't do anything to the file. is there a  way to force rsync to look inside the file and make it an exact copy of what is at home?05:28
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miranda82ok guys..05:28
miranda82wait05:28
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Vuenhahaha: how big? is it impractical to replace the file entirely?05:28
patientHow do I install asterisk?05:29
[H] 3b0RIntangir: ok05:29
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hahahavuen: it's about 700 MB. transfering the whole thing to work here would take all day.05:29
Vuen:(05:29
sproingiehahaha: you can tell rsync to use md5 instead of date stamps.  check the man page05:29
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hahahasproingie: I didn't see anything about md5 in the man page.. that's why I'm here;)05:29
patientI wanna manage all my IP phones, can someone help me?05:29
miranda82pty, WEP05:30
MtJBi am trying to run newly installed flightgear, it crashes at startup saying "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"05:30
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hahahasproingie: and if I use md5 will it just replace the whole file? or just the bits that are corrupted?05:30
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MtJBi am trying to run newly installed flightgear, but it crashes05:31
Vuenhahaha: maybe you can set back the date stamp on the file05:31
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devilzhow do i get convert command?05:31
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devilzwhat package do i need to install05:31
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Alakazamz0rconvert?05:31
sproingiehahaha: far as i know, if the file is different, it will just replace the whole file.  rsync doesn't transfer patches as far as i know05:32
devilzAlakazamz0r: yes05:32
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Alakazamz0rdevilz, sudo aptitude search convert05:32
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hahahalame... well, I'm tring with -c which should use checksums... let's see what happens...05:32
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devilzAlakazamz0r: there is some command 'convert -resize 640x480 -colors 14 wallpaper.png splashimage.xpm && gzip splashimage.xpm'05:33
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devilzbut it says convert 'command not found'05:33
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Alakazamz0rdevilz, http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=%22convert+-resize%22&btnG=Search05:34
patientCan someone help me?05:34
MtJBi am not going to say be patient05:34
Vuendevilz: hehe, you're trying to make your own boot splash, aren't you. do you have a link to the guide you're following?05:34
nolimitsoya!anyone > patient05:34
Alakazamz0rpatient, whats the problem.05:34
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Vuen!ask05:34
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:34
infinitodoen anyone know where to get the google api key fot using it with deskbar-applet??05:35
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sproingiehahaha: it's rsync -I -c05:35
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snoopshey, umm I'm looking for an application which will map out my network graphically(and not go outside my network), and hopefully be able to tell me how far away(long) each cable on my network is.. there's a windows app I have for my switch which tells me cable lengths05:35
skeldoes anyone know what package snmpconfig exists in?05:35
MtJBwhat does it mean when an app says "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"05:35
MnemonikjHi all people !!!05:35
Vuenhello :)05:35
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Toma-MtJB: means something is blocking your sound. usually esd05:35
Alakazamz0rdevilz, Version: ImageMagick 6.2.4 09/21/06 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org05:36
MnemonikjHi!!!05:36
skelsnoops: I have no idea how you currently have an app that does that considering every point in the network would have to have the capability of measuring signal05:36
Alakazamz0ri have it installed on my system through apt-getr05:36
Alakazamz0rapt-get*05:36
MtJBToma-  so maybe i can kill esd and cure the problem?05:36
sproingiesnoops: i suspect that app is just a front end for a firmware feature in your switch05:36
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sproingiesnoops: unless someone's ported it to linux, forget about it05:36
Toma-MtJB: more than likely05:36
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ewhitehill_workHell, I feel really dorky about asking this, but google seems to be no help05:36
MtJBToma-  a million thank yous to you and to all your family05:36
skelsnoops: I agree with sproingie05:36
Toma-:>05:36
Alakazamz0rdevilz, sudo aptitude show imagemagick05:37
MtJB:)05:37
ewhitehill_workIt appears as though gksu is broken on my box05:37
Vuenewhitehill_work: it's gksudo05:37
ewhitehill_workyeah, i wasn't able to type all it in...fatfinger05:37
snoopsoh, right must just be a firmware feature.. okay.. so how about an app to work out every machine on my network, and their names..05:37
Vuenah05:37
ewhitehill_workI've tried apt-get remove, apt-get ionstall05:37
Vuenwhat does it do? does it tell you the password is wrong?05:37
ewhitehill_workand it's still broken05:37
Vuendoes it simply not run?05:38
MtJBpraise baud!  flightgear now works!  :)05:38
ewhitehill_workVuen, yes05:38
Vuentry apt-get remove --purge05:38
Vuenyes what?05:38
Alakazamz0ryeah purge05:38
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skelsnoops: I think cheops will do that05:38
ewhitehill_worksudo apt-get remove --purge gksudo05:38
ewhitehill_work?05:38
Vuenyep05:38
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Mnemonikjf05:39
Alakazamz0rsudo aptitude purge gksudo05:39
Alakazamz0rthat works too05:39
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Vueni'm not a big fan of aptitude05:39
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Mnemonikjd05:39
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Alakazamz0rto each their own05:39
Vueni really don't like how it tries to solve dependencies in elaborate ways05:39
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snoopsgreat, will try it out, thanks skel05:39
ewhitehill_worksudo: unable to lookup rfd via gethostbyname()05:39
ewhitehill_workReading package lists... Done05:39
ewhitehill_workBuilding dependency tree... Done05:39
ewhitehill_workPackage gksudo is not installed, so not removed05:39
ewhitehill_work0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.05:39
ashzillaI have an increidbly serious issue05:39
Vueni prefer that apt-get just tells me whats wrong so i can do it myself05:39
Alakazamz0rashzilla, do share.05:39
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ashzillaI just opened a .doc file directly form the web with Open Office, spent THREE hours going through and typing in terms for my midterm in an hour05:40
JuJuBeeI keep getting an error when I am trying to run a java program.  java --jar TabCompletionGradeBook-1.0-beta4.1.jar05:40
JuJuBeeException in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit05:40
devilzVuen: i do have yes05:40
devilzwhy05:40
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: when I saved the file, and went to /tmp NOTHING is located there05:40
ashzillaThen, when I went back into Open Office and tried to reopen the document under recent documents, it said the file did not exist05:40
JuJuBeeI asked on #java and they told me to install Sun's java not the gnu version.05:40
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ashzillaAlakazamz0r: WHERE IS THAT FILE!05:40
Vuenuhoh05:41
Alakazamz0rupdatedb && locate filename05:41
Alakazamz0roops05:41
Alakazamz0rsudo updatedb && locate filename05:41
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: what?05:41
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Alakazamz0rpaste that into a command prompt05:41
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ewhitehill_workVuen, so how screwed am i? :-)05:41
zhLilDoggiwhats the command to undo "sudo ndiswrapper -m"?05:41
Vuenashzilla: you should definitely not be editing and saving a temp file from online! :(05:41
Alakazamz0rashzilla, please dont use IRC as root.05:41
Vuenewhitehill_work: maybe something is wrong with your sudoers file. try opening it up with visudo and see if anything has changed05:42
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: am I goign to be able to recover it?05:42
Mnemonikjdsfds05:42
devilzAlakazamz0r: what is ImageMagick05:42
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Vueni don't really know much about sudoers so i don't really know what you'd be looking for05:42
Alakazamz0ri dont know... probably.05:42
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: if not, I'm going to fail this midterm, it's open note and I just spent 3 hours taking notes.05:42
Vuenbut i've broken sudo before and that's where the problem was for me05:42
Mnemonikjhi05:42
stmwhere can i get some vector icons?05:43
Alakazamz0rashzilla, why'd you save it to /tmp05:43
Alakazamz0rand B... why are you running your OS as root05:43
ewhitehill_workVuen, no changes since 7-13-0605:43
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VuenAlakazamz0r: how do you know he's root?05:43
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Alakazamz0rshe* im guessing05:43
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Vuenewhitehill_work: hm. i'm out of ideas. i googled the specific error message you got, and there are no results :(05:43
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: i opened it from the web05:43
Alakazamz0r./whois ashzilla05:43
TraeI'm on the "Internet Updates" tab of "Software Sources",  Should I check "Proposed Updates" and "Backported Updates" ?05:43
Mnemonikj  ZiB Script v1.2905:44
Vuentry on the forums, or submit a bug report05:44
ewhitehill_workVuen, that's why I came here :-(05:44
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: I didn't think it would AUTOMATICALLY get deleted, what sense is it in having a temp directory05:44
ewhitehill_workok05:44
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: I'm not seeing anything, where would that saved file have gone?05:44
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ewhitehill_workthanks for the help! :-)05:44
Alakazamz0rashzilla, do this in command line05:44
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Alakazamz0rsudo mount -a && updatedb && locate filename05:44
patientOk i'm gone05:44
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ashzillaAlakazamz0r: how can I use wildcards to search anything with05:45
ashzillaChecklist05:45
vitriolanybody know what package i'd get the python gtk.glade module from?05:45
Alakazamz0rjust type the part of the file name you know ashzilla05:45
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Alakazamz0rlike locate midt05:45
Alakazamz0rfor midterm05:45
ashzillabash: 2: command not found05:45
ashzilla[1] +  Stopped                 sudo mount -a && updatedbb && locate Checklist105:45
kmaynardfg05:46
Alakazamz0ri made a typing mistake ashzilla05:46
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kmaynardlooks like you backgrounded it05:46
Alakazamz0rsudo mount -a && updatedb && locate hecklist05:46
Alakazamz0rdo that one05:46
Alakazamz0rno, 1 & is backgrounded05:46
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Alakazamz0rupdatedb & would be backgrounded05:47
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ashzillaupdatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!05:47
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kmaynardsudo updatedb05:47
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Alakazamz0rashzilla, do this05:47
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: nothing wa reutrned05:47
Alakazamz0r1st: sudo mount -a05:48
Vuen:(05:48
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Alakazamz0r2nd: sudo updatedb && locate hecklist05:48
skeldoes anyone know where I can get snmpconfig?05:48
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: that file must be here somewhere, it was temp. I'm going to honestly break down in tears... 3 hours of notes before my midterm.05:48
sivang!he05:48
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kmaynardwtf?05:48
Alakazamz0rashzilla, its not the operating systems fault, remember that.05:48
Vuenif you're running as root, are you on a livecd?05:48
kmaynardhebrew?05:48
bioshatermaybe05:48
Alakazamz0rthe proper place to store those kind of files is in /home/yourusername05:48
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Vuenashzilla: surely someone else in the class took notes. when is the midterm?05:48
coreymon77!he05:49
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ashzillaAlakazamz0r: why would it auto delete tmp?05:49
sivangkmaynard: indeed, sorry, I was just testing that it works :)05:49
Vuenyou can probably get a copy from them05:49
ashzillaVuen: in less than an hour05:49
sivangcoreymon77: see?05:49
kmaynardsivang, that was pretty cool05:49
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Vuenashzilla: when did you take these notes?05:49
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sivangkmaynard: there supposed to be one for every channel :)05:49
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Alakazamz0rit doesn't autodelete tmp ashzilla05:49
acetoxyYow! Are there any packages with Firefox 2.0 out there yet? :)05:49
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: I closed the file and it was automatically deleted05:49
ashzillaWhat do you mean?05:49
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ashzillaAlakazamz0r: there must be some other solution to retrieve this05:50
gerolinhola05:50
ashzillaCan anyone help?05:50
sparkleytonerebooted after dist-upgrading from breezy....ssh is still broken05:50
Vuenacetoxy: ff 2.0 is standard in edgy, which will be released in three days.05:50
gerolinvhjhols05:50
ashzillaPlease.... I'm desperate05:50
sivan!he05:50
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Alakazamz0rashzilla, i think you just dont know where you saved it.05:50
Vuenacetoxy: the release candidate is out if you really can't wait.05:50
coreymon7705:50
sivanwho can change what !he displays ?05:50
acetoxyVuen: Ok, thanks. :)05:50
coreymon77sorry05:50
coreymon77i mean05:50
hamilthe final release is also out on mozilla pages..05:50
coreymon77silvan: nope nothing05:50
Vuenashzilla: what's more likely is that the file was deleted when you closed the browser.05:50
sivanwe seem to have an issue there, it lacks the part of the channel itself :)05:50
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: I just tried to reopen the file under "Recent documents" in the world processor and it says it doesn't exist05:50
acetoxyVuen: Firefox 2.0 was released today, so that's what I was thinking about05:50
Vuenashzilla: when did you write these notes? several days ago?05:51
sivancoreymon77: yes, I noticed now, thanks for the reminder05:51
Alakazamz0ris /tmp mounted?05:51
ashzillaVuen: No, that's the point05:51
Vuenjust now?05:51
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: I don't know05:51
sivangSeveas: ping05:51
Alakazamz0rsudo mount05:51
Alakazamz0rlook for /05:51
Alakazamz0rwell05:51
Vuenashzilla: the purpose of /tmp is not to leave files lying around indefinitely. it's so applications can hold files open for temporary reasons.05:51
Alakazamz0rlol, nevermind.05:52
Alakazamz0rroot is obviously mounted.05:52
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Vuenif you click a .doc in your web browser, it stores a copy in /tmp and opens it in openoffice. once you close openoffice and then the browser, the file is no longer needed, so it deletes it.05:52
ashzillaAlakazamz0r: where can this file go?05:52
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ashzillaVuen: Where is it deleted to? I MUST recover it05:52
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ashzillaI don't have much time05:53
Vuenfiles should not be left lying around in /tmp. openoffice/firefox/linux did exactly what it's supposed to.05:53
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Vuenashzilla: if you're running irc as root, does that mean you're on a livecd?05:53
ashzillaVuen: no05:53
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Vuenwhat's your filesystem type? ext3?05:53
ashzillayes05:53
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MnemonikJanybody knows, how can make callback settings(dialup) on ubuntu 6.06?05:54
Vuenokay. files are basically unrecoverable from ext3. the only thing you can really do is grep the entire drive as raw data for portions of text in your document05:54
Seveassivang?05:54
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Vuenit's almost certainly going to be fragmented about the drive05:54
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Vuenand encoded in whatever .doc format openoffice uses05:54
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Vuenso this will take you a lot more time than it would to just remake the notes.05:55
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ashzillaI don't have 3 hours to retake notes05:55
saminadguys, does the taskbar flash when somebody types something and you have  gaim minimized?05:55
Vuencall a friend, have them photocopy you their notes05:55
Vuenphotocopy the textbook05:55
hamilacetoxy: ff 2.0, for i386 and with english language, can be found here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0.tar.gz05:55
englaext3 doesn't fragment unnessecarily05:55
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englascarily05:55
engla:)05:55
clearzenCan anyone tell me how to extract the file structure of a iso file to my hard drive? do you use mkisofs?05:55
Vuenengla: of course not, no file system fragments unnecessarily05:55
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acetoxyhamil: Yeah, thanks. :)05:55
Lubixdoes anyone know why it become such a pain to connect the internet when switching back and forth from linux and windows05:56
saminadclearzen, mount -o loop foo.iso /some/where05:56
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Vueni suppose it's actually very unlikely that it's fragmented... you're right05:56
clearzensaminad: thanx05:56
hamilacetoxy: that is a tar.gz file, so you will have to build/compile/install yourself..05:56
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VuenLubix: ? i don't have this problem, and i switch back and forth regularly. what exactly happens to make it painful?05:56
acetoxyhamil: It's already compiled05:57
saminadclearzen, you gotta be root though (??)05:57
Lubixi have to recycle the modem usually05:57
Lubixim running with a cable modem05:57
hamilacetoxy: ok, have not read the readme file yet.. :)05:57
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acetoxy:D05:57
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Vueni feel bad for ashzilla.05:57
CruX|hi all how can i fix this ?05:57
arriespxao gente me voy a acer capoeira05:58
CruX|  libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is installed05:58
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variantVuen: why?05:58
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Vuenwhy on earth would he open a .doc in firefox, write three hours of notes, and hit save? :(05:58
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Vuenwhy would he think that that alone would keep his document?05:58
Vuen:(05:58
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coreymon77!he05:59
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SeveasCruX|, reinstall and never mix debian and ubuntu again05:59
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MnemonikJWho can help me make dialup connection with callback function?05:59
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VuenLubix: you have to... recycle... the modem?05:59
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clearzensaminad: I used that command as root and all it did was give me this message type iso9660 (ro,loop=/dev/loop1) it didn't extract the files from the iso06:00
|_SpY_|i have installed i new version of php in my machine using apt-get update... how i roll back? i really need the old version of php.. anybody can help me?06:00
matasonHi - I have a HP Pavillion dv5000 - I am trying to set up dual booting with Windows XP Home etc - I've used Ubuntu to partition the drive and all seems OK - but when I boot with the Windows XP Home CD I get the message - "setup did not find any hard disk drives installed on your computer" - any ideas?06:01
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CruX|Seveas: it's not my machine and i don't know much about deb, so there are mixed ubuntu and debian libraries ? that can't be repaired ?06:01
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MnemonikJ  callback  ...06:01
saminadclearzen, once you mounted the iso, go to the directory where you mounted it, the files are there06:01
SeveasCruX|, it might be repairable06:01
saminadclearzen, or it didn't work , and gave you an error (??)06:01
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withaYare there any tools which allow for wysiwyg PDF editing or adding comments?06:02
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iturkhi there is there any wav player in linux ??06:02
withaYlike acrobat pro on win/mac?06:02
SeveasCruX|, but chances are that much more is messed up06:02
clearzensaminad: oh, duh.....=D thanx again06:02
matasoniturk: MPlayer?06:02
ambrientoiturk, any? there's plenty of them06:02
saminaditurk, play foo.wav . apt-get install sox06:02
saminadclearzen, you're welcome :)06:02
|_SpY_|i have installed i new version of php in my machine using apt-get update... how i roll back? i really need the old version of php.. anybody can help me?06:02
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CruX|Seveas: ok thx06:03
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jcooke|_SpY_|, why do you need the old version?06:03
quad3datwork2when you use apt-key to add a gpg key.. where is the repository at on filesystem?06:04
quad3datwork2which file/folder is kept in?06:04
VuenSeveas: just out of curiousity, how do you know he was using debian debs/repos?06:04
SeveasVuen, version numbers06:04
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|_SpY_|jcooke: after a new instaltion.. my php mysql searchs are very very very slowly06:05
Seveas(and it's a common stupidity to do so)06:05
Vuenah06:05
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Vuenyou mean because 2.3.6.ds1-4 is a higher version than the ubuntu one, or just the fact that it doesn't have a ubuntu tag?06:06
jcooke|_SpY_|, what versions did you ugrade from:to06:06
matasonAny ideas?06:06
SeveasVuen, debian glibc has 'ds' in its version06:06
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Vuenis this just something you know off the top of your head about debian and glibc?06:06
Seveasyes06:06
sparkleytonecompletely purged and reinstalled openssh-server and i STILL can't ssh to it06:06
|_SpY_|jcooke: i cant remember the old version of php... the new is 5.1.206:06
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Vuenis it common for debian debs to have 'ds' tags?06:06
Seveasno06:07
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Vueni bow to your knowledge06:07
Vuenyou guys scare me with the amount of crap you know06:07
Seveasheh06:07
jcooke|_SpY_|, try apt-get install <php-package>=<version you want>06:07
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Vuenahh, high noon. nap time.06:08
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sparkleytonecan someone look at the last annotation here and possibly help me?06:08
sparkleytonehttp://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#206:08
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fangorious[how]  can I convert an swf to an mpg (or something I can play in totem without having to install all the restricted/universe/multiverse plugins)?06:09
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Seveasfangorious, mencoder or transcode iirc can do that06:09
saminadfangorious, there is some program called swftools (sp??) .. not sure though...06:09
Toma-didnt know swf was a valid video format...06:10
[BTF] Chm0danyone here have a wintvPVR 150 or similiar?06:10
Toma-xvidcap?06:10
[BTF] Chm0dwhat do I need to install in order to get my tuner working06:10
fangoriousthanks, I'll look into those06:10
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Toma-[BTF] Chm0d: tvtime!06:10
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[BTF] Chm0ddoes that support a wintvpvr 150?06:11
[BTF] Chm0dWhat about drivers?06:11
Toma-if you have /dev/video0, yes06:11
Intangiri got a package called w32codecs, but im not sure how i installed it06:11
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Intangirand now i need it on another computer06:11
[BTF] Chm0di dont even have that /dev/video006:11
Intangirwhere do i get w32codecs06:11
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ironwolfUpgrading to edgy has caused all sound to stop on my system.  I checked google and I saw some problems early on, but no fix listed.  Ideas?06:11
Toma-[BTF] Chm0d: ahh, youll need bttv then06:12
[BTF] Chm0dhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper06:12
[BTF] Chm0dthere Intangir06:12
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[BTF] Chm0dthats what i was lookin fer06:12
Toma-ironwolf: edgy = not released, shouldnt have done it! :<06:12
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thepresenceusaany ideas for playing asf and wmv files? even vlc wouldn't touch them06:13
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Intangirthepresenceusa: you need w32codecs also06:13
ironwolfToma: the rc was listed as believed stable for all users.06:13
Intangirthepresenceusa: if you figure out how to install them tell me ;)06:13
thepresenceusayeah...lol.  blew 8 hours yesterday trying.06:14
[BTF] Chm0dIntangir: did you get my url i gave you to get the codecs?06:14
Intangirit used to be in one of the main repositories, but now its not06:14
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Intangir[BTF] Chm0d: ya i looked, it says just apt-get install it, but its not in the repositories i have06:14
Intangirand this doesnt say which one to add06:14
[BTF] Chm0dan easier way is automatix06:14
[BTF] Chm0dwww.getautomatix.com06:15
[BTF] Chm0dhmm wrong url06:15
nalioth[BTF] Chm0d: not in here, please06:15
[BTF] Chm0dhold onsec06:15
Intangircan i opt out of everything else it wants to install?06:15
[BTF] Chm0dhuh?06:15
nalioth[BTF] Chm0d: automatix and easyubuntu discussion belong somewhere else06:15
Intangirnalioth: why is that?06:15
[BTF] Chm0dgawd06:15
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zhLilDoggiis there anyway to get rid of ath0 and change it to wlan0?06:15
IntangirzhLilDoggi: what difference does it make?06:16
clearzenIntangir: it's 3rd party blah blah and breaks stuff i guess06:16
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zhLilDoggimy lights on my wireless card don't show up when I install my driver in ndiswrapper06:16
Intangirif you have atheros cards, just use the madwifi stuff, in the resitricted modules06:17
Intangirit works great06:17
zhLilDoggiI has 5.1006:17
Intangirthats what im using on my wireless dlink card06:17
Intangirmine shows up as ath006:17
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zhLilDoggithen why does my card not pick up06:17
zhLilDoggi?06:17
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zhLilDoggiI had it going before, just couldn't connect to anything06:18
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Intangirif it picked it up as ath0 it mustve detected it, maybe you just dont have the right wireless settings06:18
Tjoelshow do i know if my X server supports module unloading?06:18
Tjoelsor has it enabled+06:19
Tjoels?06:19
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zhLilDoggiis madwifi in 5.10?06:19
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Intangiri dont know06:19
Intangiri have dapper06:19
Intangirit might be06:19
Intangirlook for linux-restricted-modules06:19
Intangirin synaptic06:20
zhLilDoggione second...06:20
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Intangirbut if its already labeling it ath0, you probably already have if.. maybe06:20
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: does "modinfo ath_pci" return many lines or just "could not find module ath_pci"?06:20
Ichihi06:21
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Tjoelsi have problems upgrading to the newest version of the nvidia driver, the one with the security fix.06:21
zhLilDoggiI haven't checked06:21
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: but first we should check which card/chipset you have06:21
zhLilDoggiatheros06:21
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: okay06:21
Trunks^^Hey, does anyone know how to fix the graphics error "fatal server error no screens found" i have the same error in all the linux versions06:22
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zhLilDoggiI have BLKWGN.INF06:22
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variantTrunks^^: thats not hte error thats just hte symptom, the error comes above that06:24
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Ichidoes anybody know if /sys is a real filesystem or a virtual one that's created on startup?06:24
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Trunks^^ok06:24
whymehi all06:24
Nophiqji all06:24
Nophiqhi all06:24
Trunks^^could it be (EE)No devices detected?06:25
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IchiTrunks^^: doesn't it say something about failing loading a module?06:25
whymeam I right in assuming that if I want a service started at boot, I add a link to it in init.d, and then link it at the appropriate /etc/rcX.d/ directory?06:25
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Trunks^^dont know right now i had to restart the pc to get here..06:25
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Daniel4711Hiho06:26
Clinton__whyme: use update-rc.d  it'll do it for you06:26
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Trunks^^i can try it again and rejoin here later06:26
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: for most atheros chipsets you don't need ndiswrapper06:26
Trunks^^brb06:26
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: use madwifi06:26
whymeClinton__, ty :)06:26
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Clinton__whyme: np06:26
zhLilDoggiI know, I know, but does 5.10 have madwifi?06:26
Daniel4711Do you know how to map the Windows key to the Super key? It seems to be mapped to "Select" for me and I can't find any administration dialog to modify the keymap?06:27
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zhLilDoggior do I have to scramble for my USB drive?06:27
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: did you check "modinfo ath_pci"?06:27
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zhLilDoggino, wheres it at?06:28
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: type: modinfo ath_pci    in a shell06:28
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: and don't paste the output here06:28
zhLilDoggiyeah, I know06:29
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: good06:29
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zhLilDoggiit sent back lines06:29
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: many lines?06:30
zhLilDoggiyes, many06:30
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: okay, then the module is present06:30
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: type: iwconfig    and look for a ath0 interface in the output06:31
Ichiis there a way to copy a directory with files for wich no user has read permissions without changing them?06:31
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zhLilDoggiokay06:32
zhLilDoggifound it06:33
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: now do: sudo iwlist ath0 scan06:33
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: does that return a list of access points?06:34
dcordes!botsnack06:34
ubotuYum!06:34
zhLilDogginope06:34
zhLilDogginetwork is down06:34
paul0how i upgrade my i810 driver in dapper?06:34
NophiqIchi I don't understand06:34
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: sudo ifconfig ath0 up ; sudo iwlist ath0 scan06:34
IchiNophiq: sorry, i'll try to elaborate06:35
Nophiqpermissions are determinate through chmod06:35
Ichii'm trying to move my system form my old pata disks to a new sata disk, but when trying to move /sys, lots of files have permissions like 20006:35
NophiqIchi: no problem :)06:35
zhLilDoggiresource temporarily unavailable06:35
Ichithat means that you can write to them, but not read them06:35
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: hmmm. are you sure the card is okay?06:36
Nophiqwithout change permission, right?06:36
zhLilDoggiyeah, I've tested it in another laptop06:36
Ichiso i wan't to copy it, but not change the permissions, because i guess they have to be just those06:36
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Ichiyes, without changing them :)06:36
ShadowthroneI wish to associate Azureus with torrent files -- which file should I point a torrent to?06:36
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: and it worked with ubuntu 5.10 before?06:37
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zhLilDoggiwhen I did ndiswrapper, the green light began to flash, couldn't connect06:37
zhLilDoggibut now nothing06:37
poorujust upgraded from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 RC1, and the new background / boot splash didn't seem to make the transition06:37
pooruis this a known bug?06:37
dcordessudo wlanconfig ath0 destroy06:37
Ichicp complains about permissions even with -f as root06:37
dcordesthen you have wlan06:37
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Ichidd complains about both of them being directories06:38
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: maybe the ndiswrapper module is still loaded, blocking the card for madwifi06:38
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kmaynardpooru, ask in #ubuntu+106:38
kmaynardand for the record, it all works for me06:38
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hyphenatedIchi: uh.. /sys is a virtual filesystem like /proc06:38
poorukmaynard: thanks06:38
Ichiso it's created on startup, right?06:38
TheGateKeeperIchi: what about using tar, to move the files, that will retain the permission when you unpack ?06:38
dcordessudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper06:38
Ichitar complained as well06:38
dcordessudo modprobe ath_pci06:38
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Ichitried it too ;)06:38
zhLilDoggiunable to find package06:39
NophiqIchi try to create by Konqueror, not with shell06:39
Ichicomplains about the permissions06:39
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dcordessudo ifconfig ath0 up06:39
zhLilDogginevermind06:39
ShadowthroneHow can I view all the currently running processes from the terminal?06:39
bioshaterdcordes: ath_pci must be already loaded, because there is a ath0 interface06:39
zhLilDoggifound it, it had a -utils on the end of it06:39
Trunks^^Ichi i didnt find any module error only what module it was loading at the time and it was "wacom"06:39
NophiqIchi try to view who can edit your files06:39
Ichihyphenated: then i just have to create a /sys folder and let ubuntu populate it on startup?06:39
Nophiqwith ls -l06:39
jcookeIchi, I don't think you want to transfer that directory06:40
IchiNophiq: nobody, the permissions on the problematic files are 20006:40
hyphenatedIchi: basically, if you booted your computer from a live cd and mounted the drive, all you'd find for /sys is an empty directory06:40
dcordesbioshater: hmmm06:40
dcordesremove ndis and reboot06:40
Ichijcooke: just let ubuntu create it on startup?06:40
ShadowthroneHow can I view all the currently running processes from the terminal?06:40
TheGateKeeperShadowthrone: ps -A06:40
jcookeIchi, are you trying to copy everything on a disk to another and use that disk to boot after that?06:40
Ichihyphenated: thank you :)06:40
Ichijcooke: basically yes06:41
ShadowthroneTheGatKeeper: cheers.06:41
ShadowthroneTheGateKeeper: cheers.06:41
TheGateKeeperShadowthrone: np :-)06:41
jcookeIchi, just do a fresh install on the new drive, then copy from the old drive to the new06:41
zhLilDoggiit don't want to remove06:41
Ichiit's a bit more complicated cause i'm rearranging the partitions, but basically that's it06:41
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dcordeszhLilDoggi: what does it say?06:41
chrismhampsonq06:41
jcookeI highly doubt you'd be able to boot the other drive just by manually copying files over to it, not without more effort than it's worth06:42
IchiI wanted to avoid the reinstall part :P06:42
zhLilDoggiwhen I do apt-get remove ndiswrapper -- not found06:42
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: how did you install it?06:42
zhLilDoggiI installed -utils :/06:42
Ichithat's how we replicate servers at my job, untar the base system, install lilo an go06:42
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Ichii guessed i could copy, install grub, and go06:43
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ShadowthroneI believe there is a way to kill processes by clicking on them -- how is this possible?06:43
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: which utils?06:43
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zhLilDoggindiswrapper-utils06:43
{_-IcE-_}Oct 24 18:42:49 icebox postfix/qmgr[4819] : 96448D01E5: from=<www-data@danielschembri.com>, size=328, nrcpt=1 (queue active)06:43
{_-IcE-_}Oct 24 18:42:52 icebox postfix/smtp[14595] : 96448D01E5: to=<d_schembri@hotmail.com>, relay=mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.244.72] , delay=3, status=sent (250  <20061024164249.96448D01E5@icezonemalta.com> Queued mail for delivery)06:43
dcordeszhLilDoggi: so remove them06:43
Lubixwho you reccomend a fresh install for edgy or doing the upgrade i have the edgy beta now and it is pretty buggy?06:43
{_-IcE-_}can any1 see something wrong in there pls?06:43
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KenSentMeI'm using acroread to fill in pdf forms. Works well, but when i try to print the form half of the text (not the text i typed) disapears. Anyone have that problem and a solution?06:43
dcordessudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils06:43
dcordes?06:43
SubhumanShadowthrone, system/admin/system monitor06:43
{_-IcE-_}just a simple php script to send an email but its not being recieved :S06:43
hyphenatedIchi: we use a lot of solaris at work, so we use jumpstart for the servers. haven't played with linux's equivalent (kickstart)06:43
TheGateKeeperShadowthrone: I would have thought you need to use the 'kill' command from the cli06:44
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LubixHellO!06:44
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Ichikickstart... think i used that for the 32 bit chroot06:44
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NophiqIce: firewall problems?06:44
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dcordeszhLilDoggi: did it work?06:44
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dcordeszhLilDoggi: btw who told you to use ndiswrapper when you have an atheros chipset? you should beat him06:44
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bioshaterdcordes: right :)06:44
ShadowthroneTheGateKeeper: Yes, I thought there was a command you could type in, and then whatever you clicked on would be killed. Maybe not...06:44
ShadowthroneSubhuman: cheers.06:45
eyS_c0ldok quick newb question, when i do a sudo apt-get install XXX can i force ubuntu to stop asking me for the cd?06:45
kmaynardeyS_c0ld, yup06:45
eyS_c0ldinstaled just go online and download the pkg06:45
qidis there a gui of some sort for ssh-agent? I want it to run on startup, but if it does it in command-line then I don't know if it'll work, since ubuntu boots straight into X06:45
itereyS_c0ld: edit /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
eyS_c0lditer and kmaynard, thankyou06:45
itereyS_c0ld: comment out the cdrom line(s)06:45
{_-IcE-_}Nophiq : server is behind a mikrotik routerboard, but i doubt it will stop it from sending mail06:45
TheGateKeeperShadowthrone: well I haven't heard of that one... lol06:45
kmaynardeyS_c0ld, edit /etc/apt/sources.list  comment out the CD line06:45
bioshaterdcordes: maybe someone who had a marvell card (who thought each wifi card must be installed like that)06:45
kmaynardthen apt-get update06:45
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pooruis anyone able to email/send me the new wallpaper? since my update didn't seem to include it06:45
dcordesbioshater: yep06:46
iteranyone here have a linksys wpc11 pcmcia card06:46
ShadowthroneTheGateKeeper: Not to worry. Thanks anyway.06:46
itergot a friend here who can't get hers to associated06:46
dcordeswell i also had to use it once. before i bought atheros mini pci06:46
iterassociate that is06:46
Ichiwell people, many thanks for your help06:46
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iteriwconfig recognizes it06:46
Ichioff to finish moving, bye!06:46
dcordesbioshater: had a broadcom chipset which was a complete pita06:46
bioshaterdcordes: marvell and broadcom should be blown up for not reasing any specs. just like any other h/w manufacturer who behaves like that.06:47
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zhLilDoggisorry06:47
zhLilDoggipower outage06:47
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dcordesbioshater: yep that's just so stupid. they lose thousands of customers by that06:47
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zhLilDoggi"while removing ndiswrapper-utils, directory '/etc/ndiswrapper' not empty so not removed"06:48
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EvilDinhi, am i put in pc one more disk, how do i mount it that other useres will be able to write on it06:48
bioshaterdcordes: ralink has a better driver policy06:48
dcordesDoggy: sudo rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper06:48
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zhLilDoggikay06:49
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NophiqWhat kind of program is ndiswrapper?06:49
zhLilDoggiand..done06:49
Paul__UKhey there, probably a frequently asked question, is there a way of installing #ubuntu06:49
bioshaterNophiq: a wrapper for windows wifi drivers06:49
Paul__UKin a minimal app mode or just the os?06:49
Nophiqbioshater: thanks06:49
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zhLilDoggidcordes - removed06:50
nuked_omencan i download and install easy ubuntu offline?06:50
nuked_omeni mean only install offline06:50
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qidyeah, downloading offline would be an interesting trick06:50
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nuked_omen:P06:50
TheGateKeeperPaul__UK: I think if you use the alternate cd you can just install a base system, then add whatever you want06:51
ShadowthroneI want torrent files to be associated with Azureus -- in Windows I would point to azureus.exe, what should I point to in Ubuntu?06:51
dcordesDoggy: sudi apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils06:51
dcordesand see if it works now06:51
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zhLilDoggik06:51
nuked_omensudi?06:52
Paul__UKthegatekeeper, sure i will have a look at that06:52
bioshatersudo even06:52
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dcordesthen sudo ifconfig ath0 down, sudo ifconfig ath0 up, iwlist ath0 scan06:52
Distro^Junkieanyone got some tips on trimming down ram usage ?06:52
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bioshaterdcordes: sometimes the madwifi driver refuses scanning when the card is not associated to an AP06:53
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zhLilDogginow its giving me an input/output error06:53
nuked_omeni want to have propeitary formats support but easy ubuntu, automatix require internet connection.. is there a way to install them offline06:53
nuked_omenand why does ubuntu assumes people have fast internet connection by default06:53
nuked_omenit's supposed to be linux for human beings06:53
bioshaterdcordes: for scanning i put ath0 in ad-hoc mode first. or i use monitor mode and airodump-ng.06:53
Paul__UKthegatekeeper, you mean pyramid linux or is there another one on the ubuntu site?06:53
ricaneliteHello everyone does anyone know if the Ubuntu update on October 26 is also going to work on Apple Computers?06:53
nuked_omenfew people here got good connction06:54
Distro^Junkienuked_omen, cause this is the age of high speed06:54
jcookeAnyone have a broadcom card(HP Pavilion DV series) know what happened to the wireless drivers with the recent Ubuntu auto updates06:54
EvilDinam how do i add group??06:54
dcordesbioshater: your're right airodump is most save way for scanning. i use it too.06:54
nuked_omenDistro^Junkie: it's not my fault that there ain't companies that provide high-speed internet06:54
dcordesdoggy: when you try to apt-get remove it?06:54
nuked_omenotherwise, i would've get one06:54
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Distro^Junkieand most 56k modems are winmodems06:54
zhLilDoggiSIOCSIFFLAG: input/output error06:55
zhLilDoggino06:55
bioshaterdcordes: and with patched madwifi, you can even use aireplay :)06:55
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TheGateKeeperPaul__UK: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/06:55
zhLilDoggiwhen I try to ifconfig ath0 up06:55
zhLilDoggisudo*06:55
dcordesbioshater: patched? i usually don't patch anything and it works fine!06:55
bioshaterdcordes: i mean packet injection, not scanning06:55
nuked_omenubuntu is good only if you have a broadband internet connection.. if not, it's just another distro06:55
Paul__UKthegatekeeper, thanks!06:55
nuked_omennothing special06:56
TheGateKeeperPaul__UK: yw :-)06:56
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bioshaterdcordes: aireplay, not airodump. disassociating others from their APs and nasty stuff like that06:56
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dcordesbioshater you mean aireplay -3 ?06:56
dcordesoh yea and -006:57
bioshaterdcordes: -006:57
nuked_omenwhat's a good media encoder for linux?06:57
dcordesdeauth is allways funny06:57
dcordesmuahaha06:57
dcordesbrb06:57
bioshaterdcordes: so you don't have to patch madwifi for that?06:57
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GreyGhostI have a Intel 845 onbbobard graphics...i installed the drivers as  per the steps given in the ubuntuguide.org ..... how do i know if the driver was installed??06:57
ShadowthroneI want torrent files to be associated with Azureus -- in Windows I would point to azureus.exe, what should I point to in Ubuntu?06:57
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nuked_omenShadowthrone: gnome or KDE?06:58
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Shadowthronenuked_omen: Gnome.06:58
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macozzHi! Anyone experimented problems with sound (alsa) recently in Dapper?06:58
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zhLilDoggiso...06:59
nuked_omenShadowthrone: right-click the file, choose properties, go to open with tab and change the association06:59
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zhLilDoggiath0 is apparently not working anymore06:59
nuked_omenShadowthrone: if azureus isn't in the list, just add it06:59
macozzI just had this problems today morning, suddently, without major updates...06:59
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: did you reboot after uninstalling ndiswrapper?06:59
nuked_omenmacozz: ubuntu updats suck06:59
nuked_omenthey break the system07:00
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Shadowthronenuked_omen: Ah, so easy! Thanks.07:00
nuked_omeni have 10 updates waiting, and i won't install them07:00
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: maybe the card is still block by the previous loaded ndiswrapper module07:00
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macozzSo, there is a problem with alsa or is just me?07:00
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zhLilDoggirebooting once more..07:00
nuked_omenthey have to test them thoroughly07:00
dcordesbioshater: no need to patch07:00
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nuked_omenmacozz: what is your problem?07:00
bioshaterdcordes: good! madwifi or madwifi-ng?07:01
dcordesboth07:01
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dcordesbtw do you know a repo for -ng?07:01
macozzThe sound suddently stop to work today and I cannot deiscover why... all seems to be OK, but no sound....07:01
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bioshaterdcordes: i think dapper has madwifi-ng by default, though i am not sure (don't have ubuntu on my notebook yet)07:02
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nuked_omenmacozz: excute 'killall /dev/dsp' and try again07:03
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bioshaterdcordes: and if there is no repo, i'd rather build the kernel and modules myself07:03
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Nophiqnuked_omen: why 'killall /dev/dsp', what does it do?07:04
zhLilDoggiokay, rebooted07:04
nuked_omenNophiq: it kills any process that uses the sound daemon07:04
dcordesbioshater: i'm on my desktop currently because my notebook is at acer for repairs. but i have the notebooks's atheros card in here and dapper definetly did not install madwifi-ng07:04
nuked_omenNophiq: so the sound card won't be busy07:04
bioshaterdcordes: okay07:04
Nophiqnuked_omen: I didn't know this, thanks for the new07:05
dcordesbut it is easy to install07:05
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nuked_omennp07:05
naranhafirefox2 packages anywhere?07:05
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nuked_omengoogle them07:05
dcordesbioshater: you really should try ubuntu on your notebook.... you can do funny things with then07:05
nuked_omeni got mine from google07:05
dcordes*with madwifi and aircrack07:05
boinkfirefox2 wouldn't be in dapper07:05
naranhak07:05
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boinkand probably it won't be in edgy either07:06
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macozzI get "no process killed"07:06
rackerzhey guys, i've installed edgy on my laptop but after updating my drives become read-only and started giving off errors07:07
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nuked_omeni didn't like firefox 207:07
rackerzbut if i use edgy without updating it works fine07:07
zhLilDoggibioshater - rebooted07:07
nuked_omenespecially where the placed the close-tab button07:07
bioshaterdcordes: i suspect my notebook is a littly old for ubuntu07:07
nuked_omenmacozz: hmm..07:07
bioshaterdcordes: even for xubuntu07:07
nuked_omenwhat did you do that broke it?07:07
boinkfrom what year is your laptop?07:07
rackerzwhos?07:08
nuked_omenor suspect it might have broke it07:08
boinkperhaps you could user another WM on it rather than gnome07:08
dcordesbioshater's07:08
dcordesone07:08
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ShadowthroneHow can I check which jres and jdks I have on my machine and choose one?07:09
dcordeswhat chipset / cpu does it have?07:09
nuked_omenboink: what kind of solution is this? changing the WM because sound won't work?07:09
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bioshaterit's a pentium 3 800mhz with 256mb ram, but i can only use it on 400mhz, otherwise it becomes too hot07:09
boinkno sound? well, that sux07:09
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dcordesbioshater: it's fine for ubuntu i think07:09
nuked_omenfor real b?07:09
nuked_omenbioshater: i suggest you use zenwalk07:10
bioshaterdcordes: it runs slick with xfce3 and gtk1-based apps, i don't want to slow it down07:10
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zhLilDoggiokay07:10
dcordesoh ok then07:10
zhLilDoggiath0 is back up07:10
bioshaternuked_omen: i know zenwalk, could be an alternative07:10
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: and it works now?07:11
zhLilDoggistill no lights07:11
okapihello, anyone here ever installed ubuntu on centrinos laptop?07:11
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dcordesno lights?07:11
zhLilDoggion the card, nope07:11
dcordesoh do you use a notebook?07:11
bioshaterzhLilDoggi: and are you sure the card has worked before on ubuntu 5.10?07:11
zhLilDoggiyes07:12
zhLilDoggiand I'm pretty sure it did07:12
zhLilDoggiwhen I used ndiswrapper07:12
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bioshaterzhLilDoggi: then maybe madwifi driver in 5.10 is just too old07:12
DeBiaN[SCRipT] hi07:12
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{_-IcE-_}anyone knows of a method how u could send mail through a php script using postfix ?07:13
DeBiaN[SCRipT] hi jenda07:13
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bioshatergotta go07:13
dcordescya07:13
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RaD|Tz#mo/j #gnusol07:13
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zhLilDoggiso I'm pretty much boned07:14
MrMaDSeNhi07:14
dcordesdoggy nope07:14
MrMaDSeNwhos into xubuntu?07:14
DeBiaN[SCRipT] guys i have a big problem07:14
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] i installed the new version of Kubuntu07:14
DeBiaN[SCRipT] and07:14
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jendaDeBiaN[SCRipT] : hello07:14
DeBiaN[SCRipT] Now i have only a "prompt"view07:14
dcordeswe will do this. first you will install the latest version of madwifi07:15
gbaI am trying to install 6.06 but the installer goes into a endless loop of cd and hd access between the 5th and 6th step (the step where I should give him the partition). What is causing that "trouble"?07:15
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] how can i come back to Grafic version???07:15
DeBiaN[SCRipT] please07:15
zhLilDoggidownload the .deb version?07:15
dcordeszhLilDoggi: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/madwifi/madwifi-0.9.2.tar.gz?download07:15
dcordesdownload and extract it07:15
zhLilDoggikay, lettme find my usb drive07:16
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nuked_omenwhat is a grafic version?07:16
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] grafic like "Windows" not with the commands07:16
rackerzhey guys, i've installed edgy on my laptop but after updating my drives become read-only and started giving off errors07:16
DeBiaN[SCRipT] nuked_omen07:16
rackerzbut if i use edgy without updating it works fine07:16
dcordeszhLilDoggi: then you do this http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu07:16
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nuked_omenDeBiaN[SCRipT] : that's called graphic07:17
nuked_omenor GUI07:17
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gbathe system is accessing the cdrom for minutes and he accesses the hd for minutes without progress in the install program (no new menu, no new window). Nothing.07:17
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ShadowthroneHow can I check which Java jres and jdks I have on my machine and choose one?07:18
nuked_omeni know nothing about java07:19
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] nuked_omen yes Gui!07:19
MrMaDSeNapt-cache search java.. gives me nothing :(07:19
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] how can i come back to Gui version?07:19
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zhLilDoggiwhoa...suppose its searching to my usb?07:19
nuked_omenMrMaDSeN: do apt-get update07:19
nuked_omenor check the repos07:19
zhLilDoggiI plugged in my usb drive and my signal thin shot up07:19
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zhLilDoggithing07:20
MrMaDSeNnuked_omen, did check repos07:20
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nuked_omenhmm07:20
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gbaI am trying to install 6.06 but the installer goes into a endless loop of cd and hd access between the 5th and 6th step (the step where I should give him the partition). What is causing that "trouble"?07:21
gbathe system is accessing the cdrom for minutes and he accesses the hd for minutes without progress in the install program (no new menu, no new window). Nothing.07:21
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Migu`Hello07:21
jcookegba, manually clear the drive completely then try?07:22
mpsiMrMaDSeN: update-alternatives?07:22
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Migu`I nead some real help with unbuntu ... otherwide i will have to uninstall it...07:22
DeBiaN[SCRipT] please!!I can't go on with Winzozz XP!07:22
B-Minushello07:22
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B-Minusi have a file in my init.d its called ?SVW??U?????v?????????V??$??$D$T????"????O??????$?$D?@C$t07:22
B-Minuswhat can i do with that07:22
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : whats your problem?07:22
B-Minusdelete it ?07:22
gbajcooke: What do you mean? To remove all partitoins?07:22
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik07:22
nuked_omenMigu`: i'm shaking07:22
sivikMigu: whats the problem07:22
jcookegba, yeah07:22
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes, whats the problem?07:22
Fastlywhat's the quickest way of reloading all filesystems based upon changed made to /etc/fstab?07:22
gbajcooke: No, I need the other partitions07:22
Fastly... other than rebooting...07:22
gbajcooke: In this "layout" as they are now07:23
nuked_omenFastly: restart?07:23
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Seta_Rojahi guiris!07:23
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik the problem is that i can't use the "prompt"version but i would like to come back to GUI!07:23
Seta_Roja:)07:23
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Migu`My problem is this , i  am having fiber optix, and i can only connect to the internet using "PPPoe" ... the problem is that i really got tired  for downloading 1000  "depedents packages" from packages.ubuntu.com  , is there any way , i can downloand all those packages?! i never saw a linux distribution in my life that is coming without a gcc compiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:23
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : did you install gnome/kde?07:23
dcordeszhLilDoggi: what? :-)07:23
Seta_Rojaany one had installed gpc?07:23
dcordesusb thing signal?07:23
nuked_omenFastly: there is an option in the mount command, i just can't remember it07:23
DeBiaN[SCRipT] i don't remember07:23
Migu`So07:24
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : run startx, that should take you back into gui07:24
zhLilDoggiwhen I plugged my usb drive in, the signal went from 0 to 83%07:24
Migu`can somebody help me? is there any way i can install a developer distribution?07:24
sivikat the promopt, run startx07:24
zhLilDoggiin wireless properties07:24
nuked_omenMigu`: actually in many distributions you have to install gcc manually07:24
Migu`lol07:24
sivikMigu`: what lang(s)?07:24
Migu`sivik :  any language07:24
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik, the problem is that every time i restart the computer it starts with the prompt07:24
nuked_omenMigu`: let ubuntu.com ship you the files07:24
nuked_omenthey a dvd or something07:24
nuked_omenand it's free i heard07:24
DeBiaN[SCRipT] i.e. the Ubuntu version07:25
Migu`nuked_omen : man ,  is there any distribution for gcc? or any package including C, C++ , gcc and any others fxxx depedents files?!07:25
DeBiaN[SCRipT] with the commands07:25
sivikMigu`: most of the time you have to install those sepertaly, there really isn't called a developers distro07:25
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : you can fix that07:25
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : did startx work07:25
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik now i test07:25
DeBiaN[SCRipT] wait 2 minutes07:25
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : ok07:25
Migu`sivik :  but is very hard , because i can't get my fuxxx ubuntu live... coz no ... pppoe on it07:25
nuked_omenMigu`: i installed gcc from Synaptics07:25
hastesaverMigu`, build-essential07:25
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Migu`nuked_omen: I can't install from the net!07:26
sivikMigu`: and you can run VS stuff using mono/monodevelop07:26
sivikMigu`: why not?07:26
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Migu`cozm, i can't connect my ubuntu to the internet, because it don't support pppoe07:26
STrRedWolfCan anyone connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com through apt-get or aptitude?07:26
nuked_omenyeah why not07:26
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sivikSTrRedWolf: the us repos never work, take the us out07:26
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Migu`and because i installed 30  fxxx file like lib1, lib6, gcc,  blah blah blah kernel \headers07:26
sivikSTrRedWolf: use uk or de or something along those lines07:26
nuked_omenMigu`: is that dial-up?07:26
Migu`and there are still missing files07:26
nuked_omenwtf is fxxx?07:27
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Migu`for example i can't even run gcc file.cpp07:27
hastesaverMigu`, then how come you're asking for somewhere to download then?07:27
Migu`and is telling me "C++ compiler missing"07:27
STrRedWolfLovely.  Time to cancel this out and adjust the files again...07:27
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Migu`i really don't got the nervs to install 500 more files07:27
sivikMigu`: thats cause you probably didn't install the required files07:27
sivikMigu`: why, its not that big of a deal07:27
Migu`hastesaver: because I am running on a fucked Windows XP mAchine, you idiot!07:27
sivikMigu`: aka, you need the correct dependiances07:27
TheGateKeeperMigu`: you need g++07:27
sivikMigu`: then don't07:27
sivikMigu`: install it on its own partition07:27
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sivikMigu`: are you running on as a VM07:28
nuked_omenMigu`: get fedora, that'll tell you something about running after 500 packages07:28
hastesaverMigu`, ok, so you have a fast connection on Windows, but not a fast one on Linux. Is that it?07:28
Migu`Man , is there any way i can downloand them all ?  i mean , a full gcc... that will work?coz is even very hard to find a fxxx gcc binari ...07:28
STrRedWolfI hope they fix it in Edgy Eft.  I just pulled the Alt CD of Dapper and that's in the default /etc/apt/sources.lst07:28
sivikMigu`: yes, sudo aptitude install buildessential07:28
gbaWhat is the cause of the endless loop the installer goes into between the 5th and 6th step?07:28
sivikSTrRedWolf: they aren't, you have to change them manually07:28
nuked_omenMigu`: how are you talking to us right now?07:28
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Migu`nuked : yes07:28
TheGateKeeperMigu`: build-essential07:28
sivikSTrRedWolf: they haven't fixed them yet in the beta version07:28
Migu`sivik : you mean to run this commabd ---------->  sudo aptitude install buildessential   ?07:29
sivikSTrRedWolf: i'm running Edgy right now07:29
sivikMigu`: yes07:29
STrRedWolfLovely.  I'll have to fix things on my $PARTIME job's servers.07:29
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik07:29
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Migu`and it will work? i will be able to compile that rp-pppoe 3.6 ?;)07:29
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STrRedWolfHow's Edgy, sivik?07:29
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes07:29
DeBiaN[SCRipT] it says "unable to connect to X server"07:29
sivikSTrRedWolf: its pretty much the same as Dapper07:29
DeBiaN[SCRipT] how can i do-?07:30
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : thats probably because the xorg.conf isn't set to work with your machine07:30
Migu`sivik : Man , won't i nead to be connected to the internet from the ubuntu while doing that ?07:30
gbaCan someone help me with installing 6.06, please?07:30
TheGateKeeperMigu`: the package name is build-essential07:30
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : what kind of video card?07:30
hastesaverMigu`, yes. And I hope whatever you installed so far was through the package management too (apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/whatever).07:30
sivikMigu`: yes07:30
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zhLilDoggidcordes - still around?07:30
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik it's a GeFOrce407:30
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Migu`hastesaver:  no it wasn't...07:30
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik but it worked before the update07:30
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : go into the xorg.conf and change the nv to vesa and then run startx again07:30
dcordesyep07:30
Migu`coz i can't connect to the Internet from ubutun07:30
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : i understand07:31
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sivikMigu`: why not?07:31
zhLilDoggiits apparently finding the hardware07:31
liwihi. under SYstem -> Quit i don`t have option to shut down the computer (but there are hibernation etc.). how to change it?07:31
Migu`sivik : coz ubuntu can't connect on PPPoe07:31
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sivikMigu`: yes it does07:31
zhLilDoggiI unplugged it and plugged it back in07:31
Migu`sivik : how?07:31
zhLilDoggiits showing that its in...07:31
bcnldoes anyone know of a apt repository for Dapper Drake that contains the latest versions of asterisk?  Specifically the 1.2.xx (currently 13) branch07:31
gbaCan someone help me with installing 6.06, please?07:31
sivik!pppoe07:31
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE07:31
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Migu`sivik : if you downloand that rp-pppoe and compile it!07:31
dcordeszhLilDoggi: you installed the latest madwifi driver?07:31
dcordesas i told you07:31
dcordesto07:31
ngirardHi guys07:31
ngirardI have a problem using digikam 0.8.2rc1 on Kubuntu Dapper: the "Image->send by mail" optiondoesn't show up..... has anyone ever experienced this problem ?07:31
sivikMigu`: check that url07:31
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zhLilDoggiin the process...07:32
TheGateKeepergba: what's the problem?07:32
dcordesok07:32
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sivikMigu`: you could check wiki.ubuntu.com as well07:32
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dcordesgba: on your gamebody advanced?07:32
gbaTheGateKeeper: The installer goes into an endless loop between the 5th and the 6th step(the step where he wants a partition).07:32
Gun_SmokeAnyone Golfers here??  Looking for a score keeper app?07:33
hastesaverMigu`, generally, it is not a good idea to install anything by downloading and compiling. There should (almost always) be packages available for whatever you want :-)07:33
TheGateKeepergba: is this a windows box?07:33
gbaTheGateKeeper: He endlessly accesses the cd and the hd07:33
sivikGun_Smoke: have you tried looking on google?07:33
Migu`sivi  : is this also working on ubuntu 5.0 ?07:33
Migu`:(07:33
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gbaTheGateKeeper: I booted from the 6.06 cd07:33
sivikMigu`: it should, you could try it07:33
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gbaTheGateKeeper: So, no it's not a windows machine07:33
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fdovingcan one create a file in a certain directory, that makes nautilus automatically show hidden files? in  KDE konqueror honours .directory and the ShowDotFiles= key, nautilus doesn't handle this, is there a similar thing for nautilus?07:33
bcnldoes anyone know of a apt repository for Dapper Drake that contains the latest versions of asterisk?  Specifically the 1.2.xx (currently 13) branch07:34
Migu`man , I don't got PPPoe via ADSL , i even don't got a modem , i got pppOe via fiber optix, will this be a prolbme?!07:34
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TheGateKeepergba: how is it presently partitioned?07:34
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik07:34
sivikMigu`: it doesn't matter07:34
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sorry07:34
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes07:34
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Migu`so  i am connecting throw my network card, not via a modem and phone line07:34
Super_Cat_Froghi - where can i get tv_grab_dvb from in ubuntu?07:34
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] what i have to type to come into the config?07:34
sivikMigu`: do you get pppoe through dsl07:34
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sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : /etc/X11 sudo vi xorg.conf07:35
orangeflycan anyone help with nfs....???....07:35
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SchizoidI have a xubuntu install cd that passes an md5 check on my pc but fails on my laptop, what can I do to get around this?07:35
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : /etc/X11 -> sudo vi xorg.conf07:35
dcordeszhLilDoggi: i hope it will work with the latest driver07:35
gbaTheGateKeeper: There are 12 partitions (with some partitions as linux type and with ext3 formatted). On the 6th partition I want to install 6.0607:35
dcordeszhLilDoggi: i g2g now. but i'm sure somebody else will help you07:35
Gun_Smokesivik:  Yes, I ran a search on google.com/linux and not much came up that wasn't just junk adds and what not.07:35
sivikSchizoid: did you transfer the file from your computer to your laptop or did you download it again07:35
nuked_omenSchizoid: just burn it and see07:35
dcordespeople help <zhLilDoggi>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:35
dcordeslaters07:35
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nuked_omencds ain't expensive07:35
drcodehi all07:35
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sivikSchizoid: burn the cd on the desktop where it passes the test, and then use that cd to install it on the laptop07:36
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Schizoidsivik: I burned the iso, and verified it before and after burning, but when I do the "check media" option when I boot with it on the laptop, it fails07:36
Schizoidand the installation fails07:36
nuked_omensivik: good idea07:36
drcodeany one know good cd catalog , I want to get list of files in my dvds07:36
gbaTheGateKeeper: Editing the layout of the partitions is not an option because I have fully working installations on the other partitions07:36
sivikSchizoid: there is a bug in the check media in the Dapper install07:36
piddyhow do i solve a Xorg API module mismatch07:36
sivikSchizoid: just install it without running the check07:36
gbaTheGateKeeper: What can I do to avoid this endless loop07:36
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Schizoidsivik: the install fails though!07:37
SchizoidThe debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1).07:37
sivikSchizoid: then you probably didn't burn it right07:37
Schizoidat the base system install point07:37
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nuked_omengba: you can use partitioning tools07:37
sivikSchizoid: go download the image from somewhere else and try it from there07:37
Schizoidcdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -driveropts=burnfree -speed=8 Stuff/xubuntu-6.10-beta-alternate-i386.iso07:37
Fastlycan anyone here recommend a neat way of converting a partition from ntfs to ext3?07:37
gbanuked_omen: I don't need partition tools. The partiotions are not the problem07:37
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik sorry i have to enter in the folder "etc/x11"and then type "sudo vi..."?07:37
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ruvia99ola quien quiere ablar conmigo07:37
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes07:37
nuked_omenones that don't hurt other OSs07:37
TheGateKeepergba: I assume the partition you want to put it on is over 4Gb, if it isn't then it needs to be, if you do a manual partition it will ask you where to put root, swap etc & it should install correctly07:37
nuked_omengba: what is?07:38
sivikcd /etc/X11 and then sudo vi xorg.conf07:38
Migu`Heh07:38
gbaTheGateKeeper: The partiotn is 7GB07:38
Migu`sivik :  i will nead to downloand the latest ubuntu ,07:38
Migu`https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/sect-internet.html#id252990207:38
hoze_Anyone have any idea why I wouldn't get a GUI installer when booting the install CD?07:38
sivikMigu`: no you won't07:38
Migu`is not working for 5.*07:38
gbanuked_omen: The installer is giong to an endless loop. That is the problem07:38
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TheGateKeepergba: you could also use the alternate cd which uses a text installer & should give you more control07:38
Schizoidsivik: if it passes the md5 test I dont see how it could be the iso07:38
Migu`sivik :  I did as here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/sect-internet.html#id252990207:38
sivikhoze_: try turning off the apci when your booting the disk07:38
sivikSchizoid: it doesn't matter07:38
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik the folder x11 doesn't exist07:38
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ruvia99nadie me abla?07:39
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : in the /etc folder?07:39
sivik!spanish07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
DeBiaN[SCRipT] yes07:39
sivikthen you don't have something install07:39
liwiunder SYstem -> Quit i don`t have option to shut down the computer (but there are hibernation etc.). how to change it?07:39
gbaTheGateKeeper: If I install from the alternate cd do I get the same installation as from the destop cd?07:39
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik in rhe etc folder i can come in07:39
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : your in ubuntu right07:39
DeBiaN[SCRipT] yes07:39
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TheGateKeepergba: the end result will be the same07:39
sivikDeBiaN[SCRipT] : well, then you need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:39
gbaTheGateKeeper: Okay, thanks07:40
Migu`sivik : what LTS stand for?07:40
dsewnr_Excuse me , could the videocard use agp fast write in UBUNTU ?07:40
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ianmacgregorMigu`: Long Term Support07:40
hantulong term support07:40
TheGateKeepergba: the one you are using at the moment uses a gui, the other one a text installer07:40
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ianmacgregorMigu`: 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server07:40
Lightenixermm question: i did sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk and then i pressed i dont agree with the licence, now when i want to reinstall it is saying something like unsolved dependencies...07:41
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Lightenixand that i should use apt-get -f install... but i heared that -f shouldnt be used07:41
TheGateKeepergba: I assume that you have also done the self-test on that CD to make sure it's OK?07:41
ianmacgregorLightenix: The "-f" in that instance means "fix", and you can safely use it.07:41
seraphimwhen it says use -f, use -f07:41
Migu`Ok should i downloand alternate or desktop ? what is the diference?07:41
DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik it's written that "xserver" is not fully installed or broken!07:42
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CiausMigu`, get the alternate07:42
ianmacgregorMigu`: Alternate has a text based installer and no livecd, the desktop has a livecd and a gui installer07:42
Lightenixlol oki thanks07:42
ianmacgregorMigu`: I recomend Alternate CD07:42
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Migu`why!?07:42
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ianmacgregorMigu`: I have found the text-based installer to have fewer problems and it is quicker.07:43
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Migu`k07:43
dcordeshow can i test wether my gps usb device is working or not? it is shown in lsusb as a serial port...07:43
CiausMigu`, u can do online updates aftyerward.....07:43
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Jaak_is there something that makes it possible to sync Evolution with google callendar?07:43
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DeBiaN[SCRipT] sivik have you read?07:44
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Code-E!ati > Code-E07:44
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hastesaverJaak_, top Google result: http://johnnyjacob.wordpress.com/2006/04/30/google-calendar-in-evolution/07:45
Code-E!?07:45
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piddyI dont know if this is a driver problem/xorg or ubuntu I just installed the 9625 driver which works great but if i reboot the box xorg err says api mismatch with 9625 and 72**  in the kernal module... But if i reinstall the driver and start x it works fine again.... Can somone give me a pointer07:46
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Code-EXubuntu is very nice07:46
Code-E:)07:46
DeZusaI'm right now installing ubuntu on my laptop, and I'm really looking forward to trying it. I'm wondering if anyone could tell me about a few good programs for music and video playing, chatting on msn, using irc... anything else useful that I forgot?07:46
sittisalDeZusa, banshee or amarok for music07:46
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b08ydoes anyone know the channel of vmware server?07:47
sittisalk3b or gnomebaker for burning07:47
dougskoDeZusa: irssi to irc07:47
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ianmacgregorDeZusa: Movies - MPlayer, IRC - irssi, music - xmms07:47
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dougskovlc is an awesome movie player too07:47
CiausDeZusa, Gaim for IM'ing07:47
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sittisalDeZusa, tomboy and f-spot for photos07:47
CarinArrhey, can anyone recommend a good wireless card for linux?07:47
CarinArrdesktop07:47
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dougskono...irssi+bitlbee for IM'ing :)07:47
ianmacgregorDeZusa: If you need closed caption support in DVD's, try MPlayer or Xine07:48
Ciaus./me melts dougsko 's keyboard07:48
CarinArrhave a crappy belkin f5d7050 that i can't get working for the life of me07:48
XyphosuraI have the "open source radeon" drivers installed (at least i think i have), everytime i try to start a 3d app i get this error : drmCommandWrite: -2207:48
XyphosuradrmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting).  I used this manual to use the radeon drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver07:48
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sittisalDeZusa, easy ubuntu for easy codec and software installation07:48
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sittisaland avahi-daemon for itunes music sharing07:49
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Xyphosura I have the "open source radeon" drivers installed (at least i think i have), everytime i try to start a 3d app i get this error : drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting).  I used this manual to use the radeon drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver07:50
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DeZusaalright, is there a good program for Skype?07:50
b08yDeZusa: for skpye?07:50
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dougskoekiga07:51
b08yDeZusa: just use skype 4 linux07:51
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DeZusaaah.. didn't know there was one :)07:51
pike_DeZusa: i used ekiga but thats not the skype network. its open07:51
b08yu can not use ekiga to connect to skype07:51
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DeZusaalright, skype 4 linux it is then07:51
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sparkleytonei upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken07:52
b08y=> if u want to talk with ur skype friends u have to use skype, cause skype is closed07:52
sparkleytonecan anyone help?07:52
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KillallhumansHi I'm having some trouble using TOVID... it encoded the files fine but I don't know how to make them into an ISO file that has the DVD directory structure... can someone help?07:52
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xYuo87Would anyone recommend a good gigabit NIC?07:53
dougskoKillallhumans: you make the directory structure first, then make an ISO out of that07:53
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Killallhumanshow?07:53
samuelsup all07:53
Jaak_hastesaver, that's one step in right directions (evolution/gcal) but that read only...07:53
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samuelis the ubuntu server edition free?07:53
Killallhumansyes07:53
Jaak_yes07:54
dougskoKillallhumans: i dont know, ive never used tovid07:54
Killallhumansaww ty though07:54
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caliseedoes anyone have gnome/xgl running with an nvidia card? gnome-xgl-settings says my card is not found in the database even though it is definitely supported07:54
sparkleytonei upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken.  can anyone please point me in the right direction?  http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#207:54
KillallhumansNVIDIA is wierd I can give you a good site to read though...07:54
siviksparkleytone: try uninstalling it and reinstalling it07:54
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sparkleytonesivik: did that, no dice07:54
Killallhumanshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper07:54
Samuli^calisee, I have. And so do many others.07:55
samuelif i install the server edition can i use apt-get to get a GUI up and running? gnome is available?07:55
siviksparkleytone: no dice?07:55
sparkleytonesivik: didn't fix it07:55
siviksamuel: yes07:55
pike_samuel: if youre new to linux it would be best to use ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu imo server is just a very basic desktop install07:55
xYuo87Do ppl feel it's safe to use the nvidia driver, wasn't it rooted?07:55
caliseeSamuli^, any idea why a GeForce 6600gt would claim it isn't in the database under gnome-xgl-settings?07:55
dougskoxYuo87: theres a patch out now07:55
sivikcalisee: cause xgl sucks, use the nvidia drivers you can get from the repos07:55
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zhLilDoggiblah, forget this07:55
boinkubuntu is gnome install07:55
KillallhumansDoes anyone here know how to make video DVDs?07:55
zhLilDoggiI'm reinstalling windows07:56
xYuo87Dougsko, I see.07:56
boinkok07:56
sivikzhLilDoggi: whats your problem?07:56
boinkhave phun with windows07:56
CarinArr!wireless07:56
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:56
xYuo87Surely someone would be able to recommend me a gigabit NIC. ;)07:56
zhLilDoggiwireless card being a tard07:56
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dougskoxYuo87: plus, im pretty sure it was a local exploit, so its not TOO big of a deal if its your home computer, behing a firewall and nat07:56
zhLilDoggiand madwifi don't want to compile07:56
sivikzhLilDoggi: what card brand07:56
CarinArrheh zhLilDoggi.. snap07:56
zhLilDoggibelkin07:56
sivikzhLilDoggi: thats your problem07:56
sivikproblem*07:57
CarinArrthe usb memory stick idiocy?07:57
DeZusaconclusion: xmms, banshee or amarok for music07:57
xYuo87Yeah, may have been local.07:57
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hastesaverKillallhumans, k3b should do it... ("Create video cd"....)07:57
sparkleytoneanyone? :(07:57
sivikCarinArr: is it a usb disk?07:57
samuelpike_, im not new to linux by no means, just new to ubuntu, and wanted to try it out... are the package sets in server/desktop editions similar? same packages or are the ones in the server more rigorously tested is what i really want to know07:57
CarinArrer non memory stick obviously07:57
DeZusairssi for irc07:57
CarinArrwifi stick i meant07:57
CarinArr;)07:57
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sivikCarinArr: not sure07:57
boinksamuel: it's based on debian07:57
sparkleytonesame package sets samuel07:57
CarinArrhave a crappy belkin f5d7050 that i can't get working for the life of me07:57
DeZusabitlbee or Gaim for IM07:57
KillallhumansWill that make the same directroy structure as a dvd??07:57
sparkleytonesamuel: just different stuff is installed by default07:57
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DeZusaand Mplayer, vlc or Xine for movies.07:58
sivikCarinArr: did you try searching the ubuntu forums?07:58
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samuelsparkleytone, so same ubuntu, different package sets, thanks!07:58
zhLilDoggisivik - my wireless cards not working...don't want to show any lights or attempt to connect...it shows the card though, because I see the properties show status "Error" when I unplug it07:58
CarinArrsivik, yeah, they all talk about the same problems i have but none fixes them07:58
pike_samuel: as far as i know its just a slightly different kernel and not all the bloat (openoffice etc)  i normally just apt-get xubuntu-desktop after a server install then proceed to trim the scripts in /etc/init.d/07:58
zhLilDoggiand go back to disconnected when I plug it back in07:58
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CarinArrhave the wrong version of the card by the looks of things07:58
sivikCarinArr: then there probably isn't a fix yet07:58
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sivikCarinArr: then go buy a different card07:59
CarinArri know, i'm sat trying to decide what other one to get instead07:59
DeZusaf-spot and tomboy. are they photo editors?07:59
boinkAtheros chip sets work very well with ubuntu07:59
samuelpike_, thanks07:59
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boinkas well as  reallink stuff07:59
zhLilDoggiboink - not mine I guess :/07:59
sivikCarinArr: why don't you try looking on google for wireless devices that work in ubuntu07:59
rambo3ra07:59
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dsewnr_Why can't I enable AGPFastWrite ?08:00
Killallhumanshastesaver: will video cd make the proper directory structure for a dual layer DVD?08:00
dougskoDeZusa: a good photo editor is an app called, the gimp08:00
xYuo87Mostly you'll find broken cards using google. Ppl having working cards are rather silent. ,)08:00
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amanhi08:00
samuelpike_, xubuntu = xfce?08:00
DeZusais the gimp comparable in standard to photoshop?08:00
amandoes any one have a asus mobo with nvidia chipset08:00
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hastesaverKillallhumans, video CD will make a video CD. If you want a video DVD, you should ask for a video DVD.08:00
boinkNetgear WG311T is a good card for pci wireless. uses the atheros chip set08:00
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zhLilDoggimines a cardbus08:01
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amani have soundmax audio driver and am not able to configure it ..08:01
boinkthen the Netgear WG511T08:01
dougskoDeZusa: i think so, but some will say no08:01
zhLilDoggiI had the lights flashing when I use ndiswrapper08:01
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UNiXsivik i'm in the conf08:01
amanso if sum1 can help pls do ..08:01
boinkBelkin cards are horrible with open-source08:01
UNiXwhat i've to do now?08:01
CarinArrsivik, yeah that's what i'm doing, it just amused me that at the same time as i went !wireless, zhLilDoggi said he had problems with his belkin wifi card08:01
garretI am having issues with in Gnome with buttions having lines through them , but they go away when I swing my mouse pointer over them.  This is on two laptops with ATI cards.  Should I install the factory ATI drivers?  And if so, how do I do it with RPM files?  Thanks.08:01
Killallhumanshastesaver: it doesn't seem to have either of those otions.08:01
DeZusaI'll try it. Never fully understood photoshop anyway ;)08:01
UNiXsivik i'm in the "xorg conf"08:01
hastesaverKillallhumans, Click on File->New Project->New Video DVD project08:02
zhLilDoggiand the guides don't work08:02
sparkleytonei upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken.  can anyone please point me in the right direction?  http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#208:02
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boinkbroken? doesn't work anymore?08:02
boinkyou mean the sshd or the client?08:02
Killallhumanshastesaver: Thanks man... I found it... thank you very much...... can I still put a backdrop for the DVD menu here?08:02
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amanhey , anyone know how to configure soundmax drivers08:03
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UNiXsivik ???08:03
hastesaverKillallhumans, I don't know; I haven't tried it... check it out :-)08:03
Killallhumansthanks man.08:03
sivikUNiX: who are you?08:03
zhLilDoggiwow, I kinda wish someone can vnc into my laptop and fix this08:03
sivikUNiX: since you changed your name, i don't know what your problem was08:03
amani am not able to config my spearks08:03
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amanreally facinf lot of probs08:04
UNiXyes sivik i was the one who had problems with the GUI08:04
UNiXdo you remember the fact i cannot see the grafic version08:04
sivikdid you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:04
amanplus how do i install xvid coded ?08:04
garretHas anyone had issue with 6.06 in Gnome having lines through the buttons that clear when the mouse focus is applied to them?08:04
amanwhen i play a vid in fullscreen mode08:04
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amanit jerks08:05
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sivikaman: have you tried looking in the repos for the dvd codecs08:05
UNiXwait sivik you told me before to come into "etc/X11" and to write "sudo vi xorg.conf"08:05
bitsneakyanyone have a fix for a wifi card that wont work: Linksys WMP54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter08:05
amani am new to ubuntu rather linux08:05
UNiXand now i'm in that configuration08:05
amani knw very little about repos and stuff ..08:05
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amanso you ll have to tell me in a little detail08:06
boinkaman: you need the right entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list for all of the codecs08:06
amanwell what are the right entries08:06
boinkdefault ubuntu doesn't come with those entries08:06
sivikUNiX: ok, do everything as default other than what device driver for you video driver, and choose vesa for that one and it should work08:06
sivikaman: probably the multiverse repos08:06
hastesaver!restricted > aman08:06
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boinklike if you need the w32codecs and libdvdcss?08:06
amanand i cant install multimedia codes via automatix2 cuz it says libxvidcore missing08:06
boinkyou need the win32codecs?08:07
sivikaman: did you search for this kind of stuff on google before you start asking us how to do it08:07
amanyes ..08:07
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boinkthen you need to adjust your sources.list08:07
amanbut i cant seem to make head or tail08:07
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hastesaveraman, read the page ubotu sent you; it's explained in great detail08:07
boinkfrom your /etc/apt/sources.list you can download/install the .debs08:07
boinkman apt-get08:08
sivikor man aptitude08:08
sivikboink: aptitude is actually better08:08
boinkubuntu makes it a little difficult with the codecs and the such08:08
klaashey, I'm running ubuntu 6.06 on an asus a8js and I have a sound problem. the soundcard works on startup but as soon as I hit the function keys for volume/... it stops working08:08
boinkcopyright issues :/08:08
klaasusing latest alsa package08:08
hastesaversivik, how? It just gives an ncurses interface to the same thing08:08
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boinksivik: I prefer apt-get08:08
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sivikboink: thats cool08:08
zhLilDoggigood lord belkin is shit.08:09
zhLilDoggierm08:09
boinkaptitude reminds me of that horror of horrors, yast208:09
UNiXsivik i don't understand what i have to modify in this menu08:09
sivikhastesaver: are you the guy with the gui problem08:09
basetry alsaconfig08:09
sivikUNiX: what do you mean this menu?08:09
zhLilDoggiexcuse my french08:09
boinkBelkin isn't bad, they just don't cooperate with open source :/08:09
amanalsa config ?08:09
sivikUNiX: what menu are you referring to?08:09
boink!language08:09
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:09
UNiXin this conf08:09
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UNiXsivik what values i have to modify?08:09
sivikUNiX: the only one you need to modify is the driver to use for your video08:10
amanhow do i run alsa config ?08:10
zhLilDoggiI'm just wondering why its not working08:10
zhLilDoggiat all08:10
boinkit's not working due to the chipset08:10
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boinkBelkin uses chips which don't cooperate with open source projects08:11
zhLilDoggiatheos?08:11
UNiXsivik but my Video card is correctly configured.The problem is that after the update my Ubuntu version is 6.1008:11
NeoThermicThat would be Broadcom :)08:11
UNiXbut not GUI08:11
boinkatheros is quite good with open source08:11
sivikUNiX: you have to reconfigure if after you upgrade08:11
zhLilDoggithats why my card has08:11
boinkand Belkin doesn't use Atheros chip sets08:11
zhLilDoggiwhat08:11
jontechey. hey... how do I install a command prompt only version of *ubuntu?08:11
sivikUNiX: either that or you have to install the drivers again08:11
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zhLilDoggiboink08:11
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sparkleytonei upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken.  can anyone please point me in the right direction?  http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#208:11
sivikjontec: download alt cd and then choose install server when you load the disc08:11
sparkleytonethis is really killing me08:11
boinklook at the atheros website08:11
jontecokay08:11
jontecgracias.08:11
MarcNjontec: ubuntu-server, or just remove the X server package08:12
NeoThermicif you're stuck with a belkin, you can either use ndiswrapper, or there's a somewhat native driver around for the 43xx chipsets08:12
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zhLilDoggiBelkin Wireless G Notebook Card F5D7010 ver. 5 does08:12
pike_aman: open a terminal and type apropos alsa   basically you can use the apropos command to search the help pages so apropos ftp would respond with the different ftp commands and a description08:12
|rt|NeoThermic: the 43xx driver stopped working for me with one of the kernel updates....don't remember which one08:12
zhLilDoggiit even says it on ndiswrapper's wiki08:12
jontecMarcN: with the alt. cd or after I alrady have *ubuntu installed?08:12
|rt|NeoThermic: i had to go back to the ndiswrapper to get it working again08:12
NeoThermic|rt|: good to know, unfortunate though.08:12
NeoThermiczhLilDoggi: lspci says?08:12
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boinkif the card uses an Atheros chip set, don't use the ndiswrapper then08:13
|rt|NeoThermic: I just updated that laptop to Edgy this weekend and tried the in kernel module again with no luck08:13
NeoThermicmy F5D7011 uses a broadcom, so I would be shocked if it is Atheros08:13
zhLilDoggiyep, it even says it08:13
|rt|NeoThermic: ndiswrapper works pretty good though08:13
MarcNjontec: just remove xserver-xorg (or turn it off on startup)08:13
NeoThermic|rt|: yeah, but not kismet compatable :P08:13
zhLilDoggiEthernet Controller: Atheros Communications08:13
boinkgoogle says broadcomm08:13
NeoThermiczhLilDoggi: that doesn't look like a wireless one08:13
|rt|NeoThermic: kismet?  what's that08:14
NeoThermiczhLilDoggi: pastebin the lspci?08:14
zhLilDoggia version 5?08:14
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zhLilDoggilettme transfer it onto my usb disk08:14
NeoThermic|rt| think netstumbler, but rather than asking the wifi card what it has seen, it goes into promicious mode and records all packets it finds to work out what networks are around08:14
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copolachola08:15
melvindoes anyone know how to create another session?08:15
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|rt|NeoThermic: ah well as long as it works on my wireless network at home i'm happy :)08:15
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NeoThermicheh08:15
copolachola amigos08:15
amanthanks pike08:15
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Yaakovaman: apropos is an alias for man -k (just for the record).08:16
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UNiXguys please\can anyone give me a help?08:16
Rookie_!ask08:16
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:16
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copolacchau08:17
UNiXit exists a command to launch Gui ?08:17
WheelybinLo there people. Can someone reccomend to me a good FTP server? By good I meanhas a gui and is easy to use. I want to do somelocal LAN stuff, so security isint a big concern08:17
Rookie_UNiX - startx ?08:17
krautdoes anybody knows a good howto, to install dapper on a software-raid?08:17
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UNiXRookie_but it doesn't start with this command!08:17
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AnnirakHi, I have a device that behaves as a volatile USB storage device.  Writes work fine, values change when the cache gets written, so sync will update everything.  Reads, however, are a problem.  The device is read once on startup, and I can see no way to get it re-read.  How can I either mount a device with no cacheing, or force a re-read of a device?08:17
proofdoes anybody know how to install stuff in ubuntu08:17
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UNiXRookie_ i updated the new edgy version08:18
UNiXand when i started the pc08:18
pike_Wheelybin: well pureadmin is a graphical frontend to pureftpd i think. never used it but pureftpd is a decent server08:18
melvinhow do i create a new session08:18
NeoThermichmm, which, uh, version is latest (not bleeding edge)?08:18
UNiXit's not in the graphic version08:18
proofcan anybody teach me how to install limewire and other programs in ubuntu08:18
UNiXhow can i do???08:18
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chuckypmelvin, log in08:18
UNiXRookie_08:18
boinklimewire?08:18
edgyHi, I formatted a partition as ext3 and mounted it on fstab as /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ext3    defaults         0       0 but I can't save to it unless I am root, should I add another option to fstab or what?08:19
Wheelybinthankyou pike! Proof: Use synaptic to download things, as for P2P I'd reccomend amule08:19
boinkisn't that only for windows?08:19
melvinim loged in08:19
chuckypNeoThermic, dapper is the current stable release.  Edgy is the next due out in a few days.08:19
NeoThermicahh!08:19
NeoThermichehe08:19
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Wheelybinlimewire is some propetary network that's neither as good as emule or bittorrent08:19
chuckypmelvin, well then you started a new session08:19
Jhonny1009hello DHCP is not working for me in the install version.. it worked in live and in windows.. now I have it set to static and it is working.. how can I get DHCP to work?08:19
NeoThermicI've already got dapper on a CD, heh08:19
NeoThermicchuckyp: "few days" as in during LWE?08:20
zhLilDoggisorry for the wait time....give me one second08:20
chuckypNeoThermic, not a problem if you want to upgrade to edgy when it comes out you'll be able to do so with update manager.08:20
NeoThermicoh, ace08:20
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melvini want to create a new session for xgl so if it does not work i can delete the session08:20
St_MPA3bIs there are any password managers/web form fillers for Linux (something like Roboform)08:20
St_MPA3bIs there are any password managers/web form fillers for Linux (something like Roboform)08:20
St_MPA3bforgot "?"...08:20
birdfishIs kubuntu the same thing as ubuntu (but with the kde window manager instead of gnome?08:20
chuckypmelvin, xgl discussion is in #ubuntu-xgl08:20
birdfishOr are they different?08:21
chuckypSt_MPA3b, well kde has kwallet08:21
boinkbirdfish: yes08:21
St_MPA3bi have gnome :[08:21
MarcNbirdfish: it is more than just the window manager, but yest08:21
boinkkubuntu is ubuntu built with kde08:21
chuckypSt_MPA3b, gnome's firefox can remember passwords08:21
chuckypbirdfish, yes08:22
CarinArrhow complicated is it to fix xp messing up the bootloader if you install it AFTER ubuntu?08:22
NeoThermicchuckyp: and does Dapper support ReiserFS3?08:22
pike_CarinArr: very easy08:22
birdfishOkay, well maybe you guys could help me out then :)08:22
St_MPA3bchuckyp i know... but there is no auto-form fillers. Only password manager.08:22
chuckypCarinArr, not that hard atleast I don't consider it that hard.  but you will need a live cd or something to access your linux install.08:22
birdfishI was able to use my wireless card last night, but when I booted the computer this morning, the machine no longer recognizes that there is a wireless card installed08:22
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pike_CarinArr: long as you have a the ubuntu or knoppix livecd08:23
chuckypSt_MPA3b, dunno haven't really played with them that much i'm sure there are some.  Did you try searching in synaptic?08:23
chuckypCarinArr, or the ubuntu live cd for that matter08:23
chuckyppike_, ubuntu cd should work08:23
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St_MPA3bchuckyp yup.... is there any chance to use Roboform @ emul?08:23
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proofcan anybody teach me how to install programs in ubuntu08:23
jwhitlarkI need a server with raid and lvm; does anyone know if I should user the server image or the alternate image?08:24
chuckypSt_MPA3b, emul?08:24
NeoThermiczhLilDoggi: heh, pastebin.osuosl.org if need be08:24
chuckypproof, !install08:24
St_MPA3bchuckyp, emulator08:24
chuckyp!install08:24
zhLilDoggiyeah, pastebin.com is too loaded08:24
amani tried it08:24
proofhow do i install i dont understand it08:24
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:24
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amanhowever i cant configure my spearkes to 5.108:24
CarinArrso it shouldn't mess things up too badly if i did the installations in the "wrong" order?08:24
chuckyp!synaptic > proof08:24
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ArrenLex!tell proof about synaptic08:24
CarinArri just remember people always recommending to do things other way around08:24
ArrenLexAw, you beat me.08:25
pike_proof: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto08:25
amani even changed the soundmode in alsamixer08:25
chuckypSt_MPA3b, hold up let me check something08:25
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zhLilDoggihttp://pastebin.osuosl.org/35908:25
St_MPA3bchuckyp: can u gove me big big big sources.list ^_^? I have no SIM o_O08:26
NeoThermiczhLilDoggi: odd. Your wifi isn't listed, that Atheros looks to be a wired device.08:26
zhLilDoggishouldn't be08:26
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amanhow do configure my spearkes to 5.1 ??08:26
zhLilDoggiits listed as atheros in ndiswrapper wiki too08:26
amani menat configure alsa08:26
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NeoThermichmm, intrseting08:26
NeoThermicthen nab the atheros linux drivers and pray :)08:27
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jwhitlarkthank, the install link had the info I needed.08:27
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zhLilDoggiwhere at?08:27
neemzhowdy, i have a remote control as part of my freecom usb DVT, and low and behold its working automatically! how can I reassign what each button does though?08:28
chuckypSt_MPA3b, okay google toolbar has autofill options you may want to check that out.08:28
chuckyp!easysource > St_MPA3b08:28
milk-anyone know of an efficient home directory organization scheme?  I'm reworking mine and trying to look for inspiration.08:28
neemzsince volume up and down alters the master sound, but my speakers run off the surround slider08:28
NeoThermiczhLilDoggi: no idea, I would google :)08:29
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JaZyWRK_hello all, is here a spefic channel for xgl support?08:29
jmitchjIs there anyone with a lot of patience that could help me get my wireless working...I am new to both Ubuntu and Wireless...hence the lots of patience...08:29
chuckypneemz, Is the device infrared08:29
poningrujman_: whatsup?08:29
chuckypJaZyWRK_, #ubuntu-xgl08:29
poningruerr08:30
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poningrujmitchj: whatsup?08:30
jmitchjponingru: Can you help?08:30
poningruyeah dude... whats wrong08:30
neemzyes chuckyp08:30
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neemzchuckyp:  it shows up as event308:31
milcso08:31
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milcanyone know of a good home directory structure?08:31
jmitchjponingru: well i have the blue light on, on my laptop and in Network settings it says my Wireless Connection is active as eth1...but08:31
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[bash] I installed apache2 from synaptic but I can't run php script on it08:32
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axa-axaHi, how can I make "Alt-Gr" key, behave in the same way as "Alt" (the left one) in Terminal console?08:33
chuckypneemz, is it using lirc to work?08:33
X-Hackerdunno08:33
orangeflyhow do you see your ip address on ubuntu server....???....08:33
poningrujmitchj: ok08:33
neemzchuckyp: nope I don't even have that installed08:33
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zhLilDoggiCard: Belkin F5D7010 54g (802.11g and 802.11b capable) 32-bit CardBus wireless card (Rev 5000)08:33
zhLilDoggiChipset: AR5211 (Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5211)08:33
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poningrujmitchj: go into a terminal08:33
St_MPA3behm... where can i get vector icons?08:33
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neemzchuckyp: it seems to be sending standard keyboard events, like if I press 1 now it will type 1 into the chatbox08:34
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jmitchjponingru: When I give this command...sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd, it says no suitable AP found08:34
poningrujmitchj: application->accessories->terminal08:34
poningruoh08:34
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chuckypneemz, well editing the .lircrc in your home directory you can change which buttons do what.08:34
poningrujmitchj: we have to make sure your card is wpa_supplicant compliant08:34
jmitchjponingru: I know my wireless is setup as WPA08:34
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Rookie_[bash]  - you have to eneble it08:34
poningruwhats the chipset?08:34
neemzthanks chuckyp i'll take a look at lirc see if I can make it override the default08:35
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[bash] Rookie: how?08:35
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jmitchjponingru: it works in Windows08:35
chuckypneemz, you should be able to edit that file and make buttons do what ever you want for your user.08:35
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orangeflywhat is the command line for ip addresses....???....08:35
Rookie_look in /etc/apache2 and you see08:35
axa-axaCan someone plese tell me how can I make "Alt-Gr" key, behave in the same way as "Alt" (the left one) in Terminal console?08:35
tuskerniniifconfig08:35
chuckyporangefly, ifconfig08:35
Rookie_mods-available/ mods-enabled/08:35
zhLilDoggiyou use "make install" to install madwifi right?08:35
orangeflyty....08:35
jmitchjponingru: what command do i give so you can get the chipset info your looking for?08:36
poningrujmitchj: right... but we need to figure out if your chipset works with the wpa_supplicant program... some chipsets wont work with it08:36
poningrujmitchj: lspci08:36
poningrufind the wireless card08:36
poningruunless you have it plugged into usb08:36
poningruthen its lsusb08:36
jmitchjponingru: 0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)08:36
CeltI would like to know what the default root password is, when someone gets time for me.  No rush.08:36
milcanyone know of a good home directory structure? I'm reworking mine and looking for inspiration08:36
WheelybinWell, I did all the things pure admin asked me to. Made a new group called ftpgroup, checked to make sure my internal ip was ending in .3 Now I try to access it on firefox from my windows box and it's forever loading the page! Is that a limitation of firefox? I havent accesed any ftp sites from it so I do not know08:36
poningrujmitchj: hold on let me check that08:37
Rookie_Celt - sudo, root pwd is the userpwd08:37
chuckypmilc, what do you mean?08:37
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milcCelt, there is no root password08:37
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milcchuckyp, as in, a general way to organize all your files under your home directory08:37
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fluvvellCelt, the procedure is     sudo -i08:37
pike_milc: just append a dot to the beginning of everything. very clean :)08:38
WheelybinAnd the log file shows two connection attempts. One just now, one from five minutesago08:38
[bash] Rookie: I have php5 in mods-available08:38
milcpike_, lol, nice :)08:38
chuckypmilc, well I have like ~/Downloads  ~/Documents  ~/Scripts ~/Source  ~/Music  kind of like that.08:38
jmitchjponingru: I'm not real sure how to setup all these AP and SSId's and ESSID's...etc....so i could have that all wrong08:38
Rookie_[bash]  - yea, but you have it enable ?08:38
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poningrujmitchj: check under your networking tool08:38
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Celtok.08:39
jmitchjponingru: check what?08:39
milcchuckyp, mmkay, I had something like that but found myself breaking out of it too quickly, thus meaning it isn't the one for me, I need something more natural for me.  But thanks :)08:39
[bash] Rookie: Sorry I am new to linux you have to bear with me. How can I enable it?08:39
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chuckypmilc, well just create whatever feels natural there is no per se proper way to do it.  Its your home folder.08:39
StudiosusHi! Is there anybody who using sim (icq client) on Dapper (6.06)?08:39
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jcookejmitchj, what is it you're trying to do again?08:39
[-NoX-] !seen Celeste08:39
ubotuCeleste is on IRC right now!08:39
Celtfluvl: I am getting a pwd request when trying to view updates.08:39
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milcchuckyp, oh, I know, I'm just looking for inspiration, like maybe someone has considered something I haven't.08:40
zero-1how can i prevent the PCMCIA service to start at boot08:40
Rookie_[bash]  - make a symlink to it from availeble - to enable08:40
poningrujmitchj: well wpa should work08:40
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lukas__with which program do you rip your music cds?08:40
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jmitchjponingru: so what should i look for under Wireless settings?08:40
ianmacgregorlukas__: I use grip for ripping and esaytag for editing tags08:40
ianmacgregor*easytag08:41
jmitchjponingru: ESSID is what?08:41
fluvvellCelt, its your own password.  You are part of the admin group if you are the only user, and therefore have admin privileges08:41
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chuckypmilc, perhaps check for a LUG in your area linux users group  ?08:41
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jmitchjponingru: is it the same as my SSID?08:41
chuckypmilc, they usually hold local meetings things of that nature.08:41
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poningrujmitchj: yes08:41
garretAnyone having issues with ATI cards in laptops shoing lines trough buttons in GNOME?08:41
Celtfluvvell: ok, thanks let me try something and I'll be right back.08:41
poningrujmitchj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-494fd4e0aada56fc459f20fa1ac6df1afcc73b1208:41
fluvvellCelt, ok08:41
lukas__thx ianmacgregor08:41
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SilverwizardHey, I am having strange issues with XGL installation. I am running the latest Dapper, with the normal repositories. However it says I need CSM (compiz settings manager) in order to install the plugins08:41
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SilverwizardAnd the package I have for it wont install without the plugins08:42
chuckypSilverwizard, /j #ubuntu-xgl08:42
SilverwizardAh08:42
Silverwizardthanks08:42
chuckypnp08:42
milcchuckyp, yeah, maybe08:42
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jcookejmitchj, are you on an HP Pavilion?08:42
jmitchjponingru: so that's a long list of random characters according to my supplier...08:42
SilverwizardDidn't know it existed08:42
jmitchjjcooke: on Compaq08:42
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jcookejmitchj, I was only able to get that card working fully with ndiswrapper, especially on a 64 bit machine08:43
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jmitchjjcooke: that's what i'm using08:43
CarinArr!wireless08:43
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:43
jcookejmitchj, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" does that command give you any results?08:43
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jmitchjjcooke; no scan results08:44
[bash] Rookie: I just dunno how to create a symlink :$08:44
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jcookejmitchj, then the card probably isn't functioning fully08:45
Rookie_ok - ln -s08:45
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quilzoI want to change the ownership of a directory (and subdirectories), I tried chown -R quilzo:quilzo [path-to-folder]   is the group wrong or is there something I should know?08:45
jcookejmitchj, what driver did you use?08:45
poningrujmitchj: did you install the firmware?08:45
poningrujmitchj: did you just use the driver that came with ubuntu?08:45
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jmitchjjcooke: i'm really new to this...but i went thru this with someone on Friday and I thought we had the drivers and stuff done08:46
chuckypquilzo, that should be working.08:46
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jcookejmitchj, there's a ton of diff drivers, it took me trying about 10 diff ones before I found the on that worked08:46
quilzochuckyp: it isn't :(08:46
quilzoit even shows all the files...08:46
chuckypquilzo, you may need to use sudo08:46
quilzooff course08:46
jcookejmitchj, you probably want bcom802x64, in the inf file the version is DriverVer=02/11/2005, 3.100.64.008:46
quilzothe owner is root08:46
milcso, anyone else know of a good home directory structure? I'm reworking mine and looking for inspiration08:46
jmitchjjcooke: where do i get it?08:47
chuckypquilzo, sudo chown -R quilzo:quilzo path08:47
quilzoI know08:47
jmitchjjcooke: and how do i install it>?08:47
sentinelHi. My mouse seems to be slowed down in some way: When I click it takes about 0.1 seconds before the click is in effect, so f.eks. when I'm working and clicking the border of a window to drag it, it doensn't stick. Other than that the mouse works perfectly, it's just annoying...08:47
quilzoI'll try it again08:47
chuckypsentinel, what kind of mouse?08:47
jcookejmitchj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19710208:47
quilzochuckyp: oh, omg, I forgot to tell the (probably most important) detail, I mounted a partition to that folder, if it makes any difference08:48
MarcNsentinel: busy system?08:48
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chuckypquilzo, well soon as you mount a partition there the owner will change.08:48
jcookejmitchj, after you get the right drivers and extract them, "ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5" then "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf" (using the new .inf file)08:48
chuckypquilzo, what are you trying to do just give write access to users for that mount?08:48
StudiosusHi! Is there anybody who using sim (icq client) on Dapper (6.06)? I having problem with it, my version is 0.9.3-1.1ubuntu308:48
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quilzono, read access08:49
jcookethe -e line will remove the old one(or should)08:49
chuckypquilzo, well you should be able to do that with fstab.08:49
quilzoit's an ntfs filesystem, so writing isn't want I want :p08:49
chuckyp!mount > quilzo08:49
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chuckypquilzo, well it should be mounted read only for all users to see.08:49
chuckyp!ntfs > quilzo08:49
chuckypquilzo, check out the info from ubotu perhaps your fstab is not right.08:50
proofcan someone teach me how to install things with synaptics i dont understand it very well08:50
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Celtfluvvell: I must have done something incorrectly at the install because I cannot log in using my username and password.  I actually have to login using username: ubuntu password ubuntu.08:50
KenSentMeIs it possible to run a program with other language for once? I have dutch inkscape menus now, but i want english.08:50
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puphi, is there a package i need to get that will set up the QTDIR environment variable for QT development?08:50
chuckypproof, you search for what you want to install and click the check box apply the changes08:50
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chuckypproof, you need to read the desktop guide08:50
quilzochuckyp: could be, don't know what fstab is.. new to linux :)08:50
knoppixi need help getting sweex 100K webcam to work08:50
StudiosusKenSentMe: type in terminal LC_ALL=C inkscape &08:50
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chuckypproof, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html08:51
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knoppix modprobe usbcore modprobe sn9c102 doesnt  work08:51
chuckypquilzo, did you get the message from ubotu?08:51
chuckyp!ntfs08:51
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:51
quilzochuckyp: yes08:51
chuckypquilzo, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^608:51
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chuckypquilzo, if you follow that guide it goes into detail on how to set it up.08:51
quilzowouldn't it be just easier to copy the files, while logged in as root and then changing the ownership ?08:51
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KenSentMeStudiosus: thanks08:52
quilzowhich I would do if I knew the copy-command -_-"08:52
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fluvvellCelt, you can create yourself a new username using the users tool under system->administration08:52
chuckypquilzo, no if you set it up properly all users will be able to read from your ntfs drive.08:52
chuckypquilzo, cp is the copy command08:52
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chuckypquilzo, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html08:53
quilzochuckyp: thanks :)08:53
siloxive installed Americas Army but I have 2 soundcards and i want it to play the sounds on my second soundcard how can ichange that or how can i disable the other soundcard completely? I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop..08:53
chuckypsilox, alsamixer   ?08:53
StudiosusSo, aren't there anyone who uses sim? :)08:53
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chuckypStudiosus, most use gaim08:53
jmitchjjcooke: This is starting all the way back at ndiswrapper installation08:53
siloxchuckyp: ive changed that its standard on teh system but americas army plays it on the other card anyway08:53
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Celtfluvvell:  OK, thank you very much.  I just thought it strange.  I have used RH, Slack, Fedora, and Debian but this is my first time with ubuntu.  In addition I installed it on a virtual appliance so I am thinking there will be a lot of work-arounds for me.08:54
chuckypsilox, hrm... why do you have two sound cards again?08:54
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MtJBdoes esd run by default on ubuntu?08:54
Studiosusi need anyone to have any idea if my problem with sim is just local or it's shared by others08:54
myllymaahey, easy question (i hope), how i remove xubuntu and install ubuntu :)08:54
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Celtfluvvell: thanks again though for the help.08:54
myllymaai mean gnome08:54
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chuckypmyllymaa, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:54
jcookejmitchj, don't start at the beginning, you just need to remove the driver ndiswrapper is using and put the new one08:54
fluvvellCelt, its not just that you still have the disk in the drive is it?08:54
chuckypmyllymaa, you can sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop08:54
piddycan anyone tell me what a NVRM: RM/client version mismatch!! is08:54
jcookejmitchj, I just linked there because there's a link to all the different drivers08:54
myllymaakk, thats what i tought08:55
snottlebockethey guys, can i bug someone in pm to help me install ubuntu, i'm a bit stuck on the partition bit08:55
myllymaaty08:55
siloxchuckyp: because the 3,5 mm plug is broken on that (the integrated soundcard) so I run everything on a USB card...08:55
Celtfluvell: no, i took it out.08:55
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chuckypsilox, hrm... well you could try disabling the integrated card in the bios.  as far as switching which one is outputing with both enabled I haven't a clue.08:55
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chuckypsnottlebocket, ask08:55
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chuckypsnottlebocket, what are you stuck on?08:56
PeggerrI am running ubuntu on sparc and it is constantly freezing up on my08:56
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snottlebocketwell, i have 3 partitions, one of which has windows on it, the other ones are reserved for ubuntu and one for storage08:56
chuckypsnottlebocket, k08:56
snottlebocketthe installer is asking me to divvy up the partitions, something about a root and a swap disk08:56
jmitchjjcooke: after i installed the driver, it came back forcing parameter IBSSGMode from 0 to 208:56
siloxchuckyp, hmm i dont think I can disable the sound in the bios but will give it a try thx brb08:56
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chuckypsilox, k  u should be able to if its integrated.08:56
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tnncis there an ubuntu channel just for video issues08:56
myllymaachuckyp: can i remove xubuntu whill using it? then reboot using ubuntu?08:57
snottlebocketi'm not sure what the swap is for, anyway it says that everything else will have it's data destroyed and then it stops on the install saying something is wrong with the swap partition08:57
myllymaa*using=to08:57
siloxchuckyp okey i will try08:57
chuckypsnottlebocket, You basically need freespace availible to point the ubuntu install at.08:57
jmitchjjcooke: so now what?08:57
chuckypsnottlebocket, swap is used if memory runs out.08:57
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jmitchjjcooke: scan again?...reboot?08:57
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jcookejmitch reboot probably08:57
jmitchjok08:57
snottlebocketyeah, i got one partition with windows and 2 empty ones, but i don't quite understand what it's asking me to do with my empty partitions or how to install it without formatting the windows partition08:57
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chuckypmyllymaa, dunno I doubt it though.  You could just install ubuntu-desktop while using xubuntu.  Then when you reboot select gnome fromt he session list on login.   Then remove xubunut-desktop08:58
jmitchjjcooke: is there a way to reboot...witcout restarting whole system?08:58
Dr_willisswap partition - is used for ram swalling in and out.08:58
Celtfluvvell: interesting.  I must have really messed up cause its not showing up in the 'users and groups' areas.  Thats cocol I can fix it.  Thank you sir.08:58
Dr_willisoops swapping :)08:58
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pike_snottlebocket: it will want to create a small like 256 to 512mb swap partition think of it as a pagefile in windows08:58
jcookejmitchj, not that I'm aware of that will for sure enforce these changes ;/08:58
MtJBi suppose if esd does run by default, i could find it by grepping in init.d08:58
Dr_willissnottlebocket,  by 'empty' you mean its like D: but nothing in it?08:58
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snottlebocketempty meaning newly formatted partition08:58
fluvvellCelt, np08:59
jmitchjjcooke: be back in a bit...nothing else i need to check right now?08:59
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Infamyis this -> http://whocares.de/2006/07/07/ubuntu-and-the-compaq-smart-array-controller-cpqarrayko/ going to be fixed at one point?08:59
snottlebocketi just formatted the whole pc and divvied up the hd into 3 partitions, one i put windows on, the other i'm trying to put ubuntu on08:59
PSUSIhow do X applications resolve color names like "black" is #000000?  since upgrading to dapper a number of my X apps are broken because they can't resolve the names08:59
Dr_willissnottlebocket,  what formattted it? windows?08:59
jcookejmitchj, you have the alias in your /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper file right?08:59
snottlebocketyeah i used windows to format them08:59
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jmitchjjcooke: it is set to eth108:59
Dr_willissnottlebocket,  thats your problem then.08:59
jcookek09:00
LjLPSUSI: http://koala.ilog.fr/xpm-talk-hypermail/0736.html09:00
Dr_willissnottlebocket,   Linux needs to partition/format them.  so they will be linux partitions. not windows ones.09:00
Dr_willissnottlebocket,  linux is its own OS. :P it dont need windows partitions.09:00
snottlebocketallright, can i do that with the install tool?09:00
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snottlebocketjust check the format box09:00
Dr_willissnottlebocket,  you using the live cd? or the ALternative installer?09:00
snottlebocketlive cd09:01
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proofcan someone help me install programs and stuff on ubuntu i dont understand synaptics very much09:01
PSUSILjL: thanks09:01
Dr_willissnottlebocket,  you got them designated as windows partitons.. you should delete the partitions using gparted  , then let the installer remake/use the UNALLOCATED drive space.09:01
pike_proof: are you a bot?09:01
pike_proof: :P09:02
proofno im not a bot09:02
snottlebocketallright, let me go find gparted09:02
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jcookejmitchj, nothing else I can think of offhand09:02
pike_proof: any specific questions?09:02
LjL!packages > proof09:02
prooflike how do you put a package into synaptics and stuff09:02
Infamyno one else running a compaq smart array controler with ubuntu?09:02
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pike_proof: are you talking about installing a package or creating one?09:03
proofim trying to install limewire on ubuntu but i dont know how to get the package onto synaptics09:03
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LjLproof: you don't "put" a package into synaptic. synaptic simply takes packages from things called "repositories". you have alredy a repository called "main" enabled. you can add others (universe, and multiverse)09:03
Dr_willis!limewire09:03
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.09:03
o_Ohi... I just updated to edgy and my audio keeps skipping now every second... anyone have any idea what it might be?09:03
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LjLproof: limewire is not packaged, which means you won't find it in Synaptic. i suggest you try alternative software09:03
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pike_proof: as an alternative look for frostwire it might be in synaptic already09:04
proofwhat would be an alternative software09:04
CosmoDado_O: you might need to use a different sampling rate, like 44100 instead of 4800009:04
ianmacgregor!frostwire09:04
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:04
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snottlebocketi see a qTparted partioning tool but not gparted?09:04
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LjLproof: frostwire is not in the repositories either, but at least there is a third-party package available that should work. or just search for "gnutella" in synaptic, and you'll find a couple of packages that connect to the Gnutella network09:05
LjLsnottlebocket: where? there are both. and both are in main i think09:05
o_OCosmoDad, how do I change it?09:05
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CosmoDado_O: depends on the application I'd say... in mplayer, you use -af09:05
pike_proof: amule is a pretty cool app that will by in syntaptic and you dont need to install java for it or anything09:06
snottlebocketi was looking with add/remove, i'm really very very new at using linux/ubuntu09:06
CosmoDado_O: try if it helps with playing movies; if it does, you need to find a way to change it overall09:06
LjLpike_: it's not the same network however09:06
snottlebocketgparted is gnome partition editor?09:06
proofi want flashplayer also so i can watch movies and stuff online09:06
LjL!flash > proof09:06
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o_Oit does it even on the test sound from gstreamer-properties09:06
liwihi. which java do you recommend for old computers?09:06
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LjLnone?09:07
pike_proof: best thing is to goto wiki.ubuntu.com and search for whatever you need09:07
o_Oyeah, that doesn't help for playing movies09:07
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liwiLjL - i need to use it09:07
liwiso which one?09:08
snottlebocketwhat type of filesystem should i pick?09:08
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Captain_RedbeardHmmm I just got myself a 64-bit processor, now, how should I do to update my system to be a 64-bit system?09:08
pike_snottlebocket: most people use ext3. it would be least problematic09:08
LjLliwi: sablevm is probably the lightest available in the repositories09:08
Captain_RedbeardI mean let's say I want a package like wine to be 64-bit application... can I just recompile it? or do I need a new set of binutils GCC and so forth?09:08
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proofi tried searching there but i still dont understand09:09
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LjLproof, for flash, look at the restrictedformats page i had the bot send you09:09
proofi usually understand something when someone says it step by step or types it step by step09:09
Rick-ukhi - can anyone help me - I want to listen to BBC radio and also watch their video clips, but I can't get the firefox plugins for realplayer etc towork.  I am running edubuntu - latest version I think(nrew to this)09:09
o_Oso does anyone have any idea why my sound keeps skipping?09:09
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quad3datwork2your computer does not like you09:09
piddycan anyone tell me how to remove the legacy nvidia driver09:10
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snottlebocketthe swap partition only needed to be really small, like 500mb to a gig?09:10
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CosmoDado_O: did neither 44100 nor 48000 mplayer setting help?09:10
proofwhat bot did u send to me09:10
LjLproof, Ubotu. you have (a few) private messages from it.09:10
CosmoDadsnottlebocket: yeah. you'll be fine with 1G09:10
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o_OCosmoDad, nope09:10
CosmoDado_O: :/09:10
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piddycan anyone tell me how to remove the legacy nvidia driver09:11
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LjLproof: anyway. first thing, enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. either follow these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories   or if you really don't understand them, post your /etc/apt/sources.list file into the pastebin, and i'll add them for you09:11
pike_piddy: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy ?09:11
o_OCosmoDad, it even skips when I hit Test in gstreamer-properties so I think it must be some card-level setting wrong, or kernel module or something09:12
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CompyOn the latest ubuntu desktop we are attempting to install a driver for an onboard nic and it seems that desktop doesnt have the "make" command, whats the most efficient way to install the make package to compile the nic driver (obviously we cant apt-get)09:12
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ianmacgregorCompy: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:12
Captain_RedbeardIs it possible to upgrade a 32-bit system to a 64-bit just by changing the reps and do a dist-upgrade? or do I need to freshly install everything?09:13
CosmoDado_O: I used to suffer from audio skipping until I switched the sampling rate, but it only affected with me09:13
kmaynardianmacgregor, he doesnt have a net connection09:13
JuhazCompy, you can set the cdrom as apt repo09:13
snottlebocketallrighty, time to try the install again09:13
CosmoDado_O: affected movies..09:13
piddyhow do i remove the legacy nvidia kernel mod09:13
ianmacgregorkmaynard: :(09:13
I_love_beerhey can I copy that floppy?09:13
CompyJuhaz: I actually thought it was by default (at least on server it was), ill make sure we check that09:13
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o_OCosmoDad, hmm, mine is affecting everything... it was fine before I updated from dapper :(09:13
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CosmoDado_O: did you check the forums on this?09:14
siloxhow can i disable a sound card in linux totally?09:14
kmaynardCompy, try apt-get install -s build-essential  that will give you a list of what packages you'll need. download them from a net-facing PC and install09:14
o_OCosmoDad, didn't see anything there :(09:14
I_love_beeron linux09:14
I_love_beercan I copy that floppy?09:14
Rick-ukHi - can anyone tell me how to get BBC radio / video woirking with Firefox - I'm using edubuntu09:14
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zhLilDoggioh well...I give up on wireless09:15
Rick-ukI *miss* my Radio 4:-[09:15
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kmaynardRick-uk, what file format they use?09:15
piddypike_: it says its not there....09:15
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kmaynardugg, realplayer09:16
siloxHow can I disable a soundcard completely in Ubuntu Linux? I cant disable it in BIOS... I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop09:16
LjL!tell proof about pastebin09:16
orangeflywhat is the command to renew ip address....???....09:16
Rick-ukit is asking for realplayer - I downloaded the Linux plugin for FF, but it tells me I need to install it manually09:16
PSUSILjL: hrm... I don't seem to have the rgb.dir and .pag binary versions... could that be my problem?09:16
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LjLproof: open your /etc/apt/sources.list file with an editor (like gedit), and post the contents to the pastebin09:16
piddypike_: it says the driver isnt there09:16
kmaynardRick-uk, https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/09:17
piddybut the kernel mod is09:17
pike_piddy: then it shouldnt be installed. is everything working ok or are you having problems with graphics?09:17
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o_Osilox, blacklist snd_maestro309:17
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LjLPSUSI: let me see if i have those09:18
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tnnci have an onboard video cirrus logic GD 5480 the resution is only at 800x600 and can get it to do more is there anything i change change to make it use an better one09:18
siloxo_O will I still have my USB card ebabled then?09:18
PSUSILjL: that link you gave me said xrgb is normally used to convert the text file into a binary one... I have the text file and it does define black... but no binary version09:18
Studiosushow to upgrade from dapper to edgy?09:18
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ianmacgregor!resolution | tnnc09:18
ubotutnnc: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:18
jmitchjponingru: do you remember what that scan command was i had to try?09:18
LjLPSUSI: i have the .txt but not the .pag. i am on Edgy09:18
digitanyone know how to get aterm to recognize .Xdefaults?09:19
o_Osilox: it should09:19
PSUSIhrm... weird09:19
LjLPSUSI: an example of a program that complains about that?09:19
digitunder gnome that is09:19
PSUSILjL: emacs and gitk09:19
proofhow do i get to /etc/apt/sources09:19
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proofim kinda new to ubuntu09:19
siloxo_O "blacklist: command not found"09:19
pike_proof: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    type that in a terminal09:19
digitsudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list09:19
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PSUSILjL: funny thing is my system at home ran dapper throughout the development process and is nwo on edgy... never had this problem... I upgrade this server at work and this happens...09:19
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piddyi just installed the beta  nvidia driver which works great but if i shutdown and reboot xorg has a panic attack and reports that the apt is mismatched 71** with the new one 965209:20
o_Osilox: you put that in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist09:20
proofwhere can i find sudo gedit09:20
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siloxo_O oh thanks09:20
snottlebocketstill says there's uncorrected errors in the swap partition09:20
jmitchjponingru: do you remember what that scan command was i had to try?09:20
o_Osilox, then when you reboot it shouldn't load the driver for the internal sound card09:20
digityou type it in as a command in the termninal09:20
ianmacgregorproof: Never run sudo gedit.. the proper command is gksudo gedit09:20
piddyif i install the beata again it works great unless i reboot and i have to install the driver again09:21
siloxo_O okay thx :)09:21
tnncianmacgregor try those docs yesterday and i could not get anything from it thanks09:21
pike_proof: try to find the terminal icon in your launch menu and open it09:21
LjLPSUSI: hm, hold on a second, i'm trying to install gitk but apparently my repositories are down right now09:21
proofok its open now09:21
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poningrujmitchj: oh it was iwlist scan09:21
digitanyone use aterm under gnome?09:21
LjLproof: select all, copy, and then paste into the pastebin09:21
ianmacgregorproof: press ALT+F2, then type in: gksudo gedit09:21
PSUSILjL: you got emacs installed?09:21
jmitchjponingru: still no scan results09:21
LjLPSUSI: nope09:21
Studiosusok, found by myself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades09:21
Ropechoborra!upgrade09:21
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:21
orangeflyhow do you renew the ip address from the command line....???....09:21
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siloxo_O should i change snd_maestro3 to ess_maestro3 if my card is named ESS Maestro 3?09:22
pike_proof: sudo is the command you use when you need to do something with admin rights so sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will run gedit with admin rights and open the sources.list file09:22
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Compyhmm it seems ubuntu-desktop doesnt have the CDROM enabled by default in the sources.list, what is the syntax line to add there (I cant seem to find the syntax for the desktop cdrom source)09:22
o_Osilox, no, the driver is snd_maestro3, I have the same laptop ;)09:22
ianmacgregorpike_: You should not sun a gui admin app with sudo. The proper way to run it is with gksudo09:22
piddypike_ : i just installed the beta  nvidia driver which works great but if i shutdown and reboot xorg has a panic attack and reports that the apt is mismatched 71** with the new one 965209:22
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myllymaaorangefly: sudo ifdown ethx then sudo ifup ethx09:22
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siloxo_O oh :) then you might know how i can disable the internal USB to?09:23
piddypike_ :if i install the beta again it works great unless i reboot and i have to install the driver again09:23
LjLproof: when you're done, give us the URL of the pastebin page09:23
proofok i copied all of the words that came out on the source list so what do i do now09:23
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PSUSIianmacgregor: what difference does it make?09:23
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LjLproof: paste it all into the pastebin09:23
LjL!pastebin09:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:23
ianmacgregorPSUSI: LOTS!09:23
proofwhat is the pastebin located09:23
o_Osilox, you can do that in BIOS, can't you? make sure you get the latest BIOS update, they added a lot of stuff to it (its a year or so old but if you never updated, you probably don't have it)09:23
ianmacgregorPSUSI: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo09:23
LjLPSUSI: can you give me a quick hint on how to start/configure gitk? right now it complains it cannot find the .git directory09:24
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pike_ianmacgregor: not likely to cause a problem09:24
LjLproof: Ubotu just told you09:24
siloxo_O i have the latest and i can only disable "USB legacy" which doesnt change anything...09:24
LjL!pastebin > proof09:24
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liwi!schedule09:24
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:24
o_Osilox, you want to disable the USB ports entirely?09:24
PSUSILjL: it is for showing history in a git repository... you need to check one out to inspect ;)09:24
Celtcya later everyone thanks for the help.09:24
siloxo_O yes09:24
ianmacgregorpike_: That's completely false and please don't tell people to run a gui admin app with sudo.. it *can* cause problems.09:24
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orangeflyit says ignoring unknown interface ethx=ethx09:24
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proofhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27999/09:24
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mirakdoes anyone ever used a usb to rs232 adapter on linux ? I wonder if it works09:24
siloxo_O i have a external USB 2 card09:24
ianmacgregorpike_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo09:25
siloxo_O which i rather use09:25
proofljl here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27999/09:25
Dr_willismirak,  i had a usb to parallel port that worked..   serial 'should' work.. but it may depend on the chipset/maker of the thing09:25
pike_ianmacgregor: i use sudo constantly with no issues.  any issue it did cause would be a ~/ thing and easy to fix09:25
LjLproof, you're using Hoary. that's quite an old version of Ubuntu09:25
pike_ianmacgregor: i will look a link09:25
ianmacgregor!worksforme | pike_09:25
ubotupike_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.09:25
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proofits the only cd i had is there anyway i can upgrade?09:25
LjLproof, Hoary is still an officially supported version, however myself i have never even used it09:25
siloxo_O the internal is broken and sends error messages when i use the terminal..09:25
o_Osilox, try blacklist uhci_ucd, that might also disable the external card though depending on what driver that uses09:26
narayanawhen i try to compile a module it says that I dont have the /lib/modules/2.6/build directory. What do i have to install to get that dir?09:26
liwifedora also plans to final release on 24-26 october. are these dates linked?09:26
LjLproof: yeah... by getting and burning a current CD. or by upgrading to Breezy, and then upgrading to Dapper (messy).09:26
siloxo_O okay i will try :)09:26
NeoThermic!install09:26
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues09:26
variant!xgl09:26
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:26
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proofhow do i burn that cd i dont have windows anymore cause something happend so my friend told me to use ubuntu and its the only cd he had09:27
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Studiosusorangefly, or edit your /etc/network/intrefaces then do /etc/init.d/networking restart - this will save you from manually updating routing tables09:27
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siloxo_O brb i will restart now09:27
LjLproof: anyway, this is the way you should make your sources.list look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28000/09:27
variantproof: apt-get install k3b09:27
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variantproof: then start k3b from the menu or by typeing k3b in command prompt09:28
PSUSIno need for k3b, just download the iso, right click and burn in nautilus09:28
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LjLproof, download an Ubuntu ISO image, and then use a burning tool... myself, i usually use the "cdrecord" command (which you should already have installed)09:28
variantPSUSI: k3b is nicer :)09:28
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iMaxhi09:28
PSUSInautilus is simpler ;)09:28
orangeflyi don't even know how to edit files from the command line....i'm new at this server thing, but i am trying to learn....i thought file and print sharing would be easy enough....09:28
LjLPSUSI: keep in mind he's using Hoary.09:28
variantew09:28
PSUSIdid hoary not have that?09:28
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LjLPSUSI: i don't know, i started with breezy. and i use KDE anyway :-)09:29
LjLbut it might not09:29
Studiosusfile and print sharing is one step further. proper admin should learn basic things like that :)09:29
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PSUSIyea, I started with breezy rc too09:29
cainlevyhello ... a friend of mine is having the weirdest problems with his internet connection in ubuntu ... this a good place to ask?09:29
Studiosusyou don't have to use command line editor, though nano is very simple and intutive (for me)09:29
variantcainlevy: yes09:29
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orangeflythe pdf at help.ubuntu isn't that informitive....09:30
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Em3raldYes, NANO is a great command-line editor.  More intuitive than vi, in my opinion09:30
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Compyanyone?09:30
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NeoThermicok, question, during install can I select ReiserFS3, or do I have to do some form of trickery to enable it?09:31
LjLproof: you do have a cd burner anyway?09:31
CompyJust trying to figure out the syntax to get ubuntu-desktop to read from the CDROM as a repository for apt-get09:31
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LjLproof: (and a decent connection, otherwise downloading will take ages)09:31
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LjLCompy: apt-cdrom add09:31
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cainlevyso he was trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, and was in the midst of `apt-get dist-upgrade` when he became unable to resolve the repo. further testing shows that his connection appears fine - he can ping/browse internal servers, and can get dns for external servers, but can't do much of anything else09:31
proofyea i have a cd burner09:31
l200673 4d0r009:31
fooWhy can I apt-cache show webmin on ubuntu server but not install?09:31
LjL!webmin09:32
cainlevyi'm on the same switch as him right now, and i can access everything he cannot09:32
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.09:32
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Em3raldNeoThermic:  if you select to manually edit the partitions you can indeed select reiser.09:32
fooliwi: Why?09:32
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fooLjL: ^^09:32
NeoThermicEm3rald: thanks :)09:32
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LjLfoo: i don't know.09:32
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fooLjL: Why does apt-cache show webmin return something .. but apt-cache search webmin not?09:32
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cainlevyso, for instance, we can both ping google.com, but only i can `telnet google.com 80`09:32
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Em3raldNeoThermic:  although ... not sure if it's FS3 or not ... I don't know much about the ReiserFS to be honest.09:32
siloxo_O  the soundcard is disabled! :) but the external USB card doesnt work..09:32
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cainlevyanyone have a clue what might be wrong?09:33
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NeoThermicEm3rald: I guess I'll find out when I get there :)09:33
jmitchjponingru: my card won;t even activate now09:33
LjLfoo: happens sometimes, which packages that are referred to but don't actually exist. and i'm afraid webmin doesn't exist as a package anymore.09:33
cainlevyhe's threatening to switch back to windows :(09:33
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fooLjL: then they should remove that. hmm.09:33
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o_Osilox, yeah, they're probably both using the same driver then... not sure how to have it only load the driver for the external card09:33
LjLproof: go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download , and download from the x86 "Desktop" ISO image from a mirror that's fast enough for you09:34
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LjLcainlevy: so connection is working, and DNS is working, but no repos? what about pinging the repos?09:34
LjLcainlevy: and what about the web for that matter?09:35
cainlevyLjL: yes, can ping the repos ... but can't pull from the repos or browse the web09:35
LjLcainlevy: (and why don't you have him wait until Edgy is actually released, for that matter? ;)09:35
siloxo_O okay but i can live with that, the audio should work properly now anyway. Thanks for the help09:35
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cainlevyLjL: yeah, i'm running edgy without problems, so i jumped the gun on the recommendation09:35
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NeoThermiceeep! It's assimilating me! Oh, wait, thats a good thing. Yay! :P09:36
LjLcainlevy: well, anyway, if it stopped working while apt-get was still only *downloading* the Edgy packages (that is correct, isn't it?), he's still on Dapper, and the "apt-get dist-upgrade" shouldn't even conceivably have caused the problem09:36
Em3raldNeoThermic:  You have been assimilated.  Resistance if futile.09:36
cainlevyLjL: the oddest things are that he can browse internal sites, but not external sites. yet i'm on the same switch and have no problems.09:36
cainlevyLjL: agreed. that's just coincidentally what was happening ...09:36
LjLcainlevy: aren't you behind a web proxy?09:37
NeoThermicEm3rald: `if`? :)09:37
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cainlevyLjL: not to my knowledge09:37
Em3raldhahaha ... yeah, you get the point you punk ;)09:37
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LjLcainlevy: so you actually *can* "telnet www.google.com 80" on your own computer?09:37
cainlevyLjL: yes09:37
zMottany more updates coming09:37
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LjLcainlevy: what kind of network setup is that? an office?09:38
stattersIf I got a folder with man pages how do I import them so they show in the man command?09:38
cainlevyLjL: yep. running on dhcp. i have access to the router (monowall), if that helps.09:38
zMottare they going to add any more to ubuntu edgy09:38
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njal_I want to change the location of a grub install, from hda1 to sda1 (since sda1 is the master drive) but every time i boot it gives me the grub menu from the linux instalation on hda109:39
liwiktos medytuje dzis dla Polski?09:39
K1765When i'm writing stuff, in irc, gaim, firefox, instead of having 1 space between the words, I have 2 why?09:39
CaleK1765: huh?09:39
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LjLcainlevy: what about other ports? can he telnet to, say a mail server... or for that matter, "telnet irc.freenode.org 6667"?09:40
cainlevyK1765: you're pressing space twice? :)09:40
LjL!pl > liwi09:40
Cale(there's only one space between the words in your message there)09:40
PSUSILjL: were you able to run emacs or gitk?  if so do you have an RgbPath entry in the Files section of your xorg.conf?  found a thread sugesting that might be the problem... I don't have that entry09:40
NeoThermiccainlevy: doubletap is a bitch is it not? :)09:40
Em3raldK1765:  That is odd ... is it "truly" 2 spaces, or just a really wide space?09:40
K1765No im not pressing space twice, its doing it itself09:40
Studiosusfunny, minimal requirements of dapper for server is much lesser than for desktop :P09:40
K1765Might be wide spaced, how do I make it so its not?09:40
WiseOddany1 want to help sb eho regrettably still is a linux noob? I cant figure out how to write acces to my system... I had it written in a file, but me system crashed, so i lost the file :(09:40
NeoThermicStudiosus: logical, many servers do not need a GUI09:40
CaleK1765: could it be a property of the font you're using?09:40
cainlevyLjL: negative, can't telnet irc.freenode.org 666709:40
WiseOddeho=who09:40
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LjLPSUSI, no, gitk left me on my own for configuring it, the man page being less than helpful, and emacs... brrr no, i'm not installing it :P09:41
njal_where can i get some help with grub?09:41
proofwhat would flash player be named in ubuntu?09:41
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cainlevyLjL: makes me think it's a tcp problem ... ping runs on udp?09:41
LjLcainlevy: "nslookup www.google.com" works?09:41
Duesentriebnjal_,  #grub? just a guess.09:41
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K1765umm yup it was lol09:41
K1765Thanks09:41
PSUSILjL: well, do you have an RgbPath entry in your xorg.conf?09:41
LjLcainlevy: hm, yeah. and DNS too.09:41
LjLcainlevy: well actually no, i don't know about ping09:41
Duesentriebanyway - hi all. can you give me a hand wilth alsa troubles?09:41
K1765umm09:41
K1765wait09:41
njal_!grub09:41
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:41
pike_njal_: you can either change the boot order in the bios or do sudo grub ; then root (sd0,0) then setup (hd0) ive never done scsi in grub but that might work09:41
K1765its still doing it in gaim09:41
cainlevyLjL: yeah, nslookup works09:41
B00Nhello @all09:41
Duesentriebeverything looks fine as far as i can tell, but i hear no sound-09:41
Duesentriebdetails are here: http://pastebin.ca/21750409:42
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Chmdwhen i install nvidia drivers 8776 and restart x everything is fine but when I reboot and try to go into X i get an error about it searching for nvidia kernel module 7174 when i have 8776?  Any answers to this?09:42
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Em3raldpoof:  it's still flash.09:42
njal_pike_: it's not scsi it's SATA but same thing to linux afaik09:42
B00Nany germans here?09:42
K1765Nvm.09:42
WiseOdd!harddisk09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
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Duesentrieb#alsa seems bretty dead, so... maybe you guys know what to look for?09:42
pike_njal_: ach sorry mistyped09:42
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proofso in synaptic i put flash?09:42
Yako2hello everyone09:42
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B00Ncan anyone tell me how a package has too look like?09:42
Em3raldProof:  Mmm ... not sure if thats the best way.  You may consider 3rd party installers (unless someone here can recommend another way).09:43
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Em3rald!automatix09:43
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!09:43
BraindeadB00N: blond and tall09:43
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kingacehello09:43
Studiosusit so annoys me that sim 0.9.3 hasn't icq icon :((09:43
Em3rald!automatix > proof09:43
kingaceis there an off-topic channel for ubuntu or a place to discuss software, or can I do that here09:43
Seveas!offtopic09:43
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:43
Yako2does anyone know how to make the interface work of a ipw3945 on Edgy?09:43
B00Noh thanx, Braindead09:43
geokokjust messed iptables bad. Can I restore original configuration or do I have to re-install edgy?09:43
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Braindeadgeokok: define messed09:44
compengiLjL, how do i update my nvidia driver?09:44
Seveasgeokok, iptables -F09:44
kingacethanks09:44
proofwhy do people write it !automatix?09:44
proofwith the ! sign?09:44
geokokI run a script to get ekiga to work..since then no internet at all09:44
WiseOddany1 want to help sb who regrettably still is a linux noob? I cant figure out how to gain write acces to my system... I had it written in a file, but me system crashed, so i lost the file :(09:44
BraindeadSeveas: bad suggestion. he'd better set ACCEPT default policies...09:44
Seveasproof, tomake ubotu tellyou thatyou should not use that piece ofcrap ;)09:44
ianmacgregorproof: That triggers the bot (ubotu) to print a factoid about it09:44
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ianmacgregorSeveas: hahaha09:45
Yako2WiseOdd: use sudo09:45
Em3raldSeveas:  is there a better way to install Flash plugins for the non-guru?09:45
geokokthe script was at the ekiga official documentation09:45
BraindeadEm3rald: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree09:45
SeveasEm3rald, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree09:45
LjLproof: the user called "Ubotu", which is in this channel, is not a person but a bot. it's a machine that responds to commands. commands for Ubotu start with a "!".09:45
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WiseOddYako2: i would,but how do i enable the system to ordinary users? I run as standard user most of the time...09:45
NeoThermicEm3rald: so you're saying that if I opt to manually edit the partition tables, I should be able to select RFS3?09:46
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LjLPSUSI: no, nothing like that in my xorg.conf09:46
PSUSISeveas: hey... got any idea what could cause emacs and gitk to complain that they can't look up the color 'black' when it is clearly defined in /etc/X11/rgb.txt?  this is since upgrading a server to dapper09:46
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Yako2WiseOdd: you can do that by chrooting every file to your user, but that isnt recommended09:46
SeveasPSUSI, you're using XGL09:46
PSUSILjL: yea... me neither... checked the xorg logs and it says it defaults to /etc/X11/rgb09:46
compengivariant, how do i update my nvidia driver09:46
Em3raldNeoThermic:  Well, I am only going from experience, and when I did it with the alternative install CD, (I think it was), I had the option.09:46
Yako2its recommended to just use sudo09:46
geokokSeveas should I go with iptables -F??09:46
PSUSIXGL?09:47
Seveasgeokok, that's part of the solution09:47
Em3raldSeveas:  Does that plugin installation also work for Opera?  I have flash in Opera now, but I don't remember how I did it LOL/09:47
Yako2Does anyone know how to get my Intel PRO/Wireless to work?09:47
SeveasEm3rald, no09:47
Yako2I'm missing an eth1 interface09:47
PSUSISeveas: ohh no... definately nothing fancy like that... just running.... oh wait... I'm running an Xvnc terminal server!09:47
geokokok..i ll have to reinstall then..but even then i ll have to get ekige to work somehow....09:47
PSUSIthat's got its own config... man I'm an idiot09:47
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SeveasPSUSI, well therewe go 09:48
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pike_geokok: the goal is to when you type sudo iptables -L   get three responses inbound outbound and forward all saying accept iptables is easy to reset09:48
PSUSIthe vnc X server probably just needs told the right path to the file09:48
NeoThermicEm3rald: well, here goes nothing. If France blows up, you know why ;)09:48
WiseOddYako2: chrooting wouldnt be a problem, bcause im only talking about the secondary partition, not the system partition...09:48
PSUSIdid it change locations since breezy?09:48
PSUSIhrm... weird..09:48
Chmdanyone give me a hand please?09:48
Em3raldNeoThermic:  Okiedokie ... good luck!09:48
Seveasyes09:48
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PSUSIaha09:48
Yako2wiseodd: open a terminal and type chroot09:48
Em3rald(mind you ... how much would the world miss france?)09:48
Yako2it'll show you how09:48
siloxo_O another problem now :) when i try to start Americans Army the consol prompts /dev/[sound/] dsp: not found :/09:48
geokokso how do I reset pike_09:48
geokok?09:48
PSUSISeveas: btw... why is the rgb.txt not compiled into the fast binary version?09:48
WiseOddYako2: but ill do that :) thx for da help :) ill probably be back soon....09:49
Chmdive installed nvidia drivers 8776 on a fresh install everything is fine till i reboot09:49
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ZirJoker!games09:49
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:49
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o_Osilox, well did the other sound card create a /dev/dsp or something equivalent? I'm not sure about USB sound cards09:49
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Chmdwhen i reboot and try to go into x i get an error saying searching for nvidia kernel module 7174 when I have 8776?09:49
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Yako2wiseodd: use chuid09:49
Yako2not chroot09:49
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Yako2my bad09:50
siloxo_O i really dont know :/09:50
Seveas!-games09:50
ubotugames aliases: nexuiz, wow, warcraft, et, fun, doom, doom3 - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 14:02:0309:50
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cainlevyLjL: sorry, i lost my connection to #ubuntu ... did you have any ideas that i missed?09:50
Seveas!games =~ s/$/ and ubuntugames.org/09:50
ubotuI'll remember that, Seveas09:50
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Chmdanyone?09:50
Qaldunehi09:50
LjLcainlevy: well, you said that nslookup worked... try this one "nslookup www.google.com 212.245.255.2"09:50
cainlevyLjL: last i knew we'd verified that nslookup works09:50
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siloxo_O no cant see anything in /dev/09:50
VornotronSo there's the screensaver "molecule" - are there add-on packs?  The default selection is... limited.09:50
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Seveassilox, /dev is empty?09:51
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LjLcainlevy: that IP address is a DNS server that i know is up. i'm trying to see if an *external* DNS server works09:51
cainlevyLjL: that works09:51
o_Oo_O, do you know if its working at all?09:51
siloxSeveas no but no dsp09:51
geokokhow can i get ekiga to work if port forward doesnt help?09:51
LjLcainlevy: hmm.09:51
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Seveassilox, do you get sound from eg a music player?09:51
pike_geokok: im not too familiar but what seveas said like sudo iptables -F; sudo iptables -X; sudo iptables -P INPUT ACEPT; sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT; sudo iptables FORWARD ACCEPT would work i think09:51
Seveaspike_, that sounds about right09:52
Seveasunlesshe messedwith his other tables that should do it ;)09:52
siloxSeveas no when i checked now it didnt work actually :/09:52
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LjLcainlevy: i don't know where dhclient logs its stuff, since i'm on a static address, but... perhaps look at /var/log/whatever and see if the DHCP has, by any chance, leased a new address right when things stopped working?09:52
compengihow do i update my nvidia driver?09:52
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Seveassilox, does this commandgive any output: lsmod | grep snd09:52
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Chmdanyone??????09:52
Seveas!nvidia > compengi09:52
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compengiSeveas, can't i just run an update?09:53
ChmdAlakazamz0r: are you there?09:53
Seveasnot yet09:53
Alakazamz0rwhats up09:53
Seveasofficial ubuntu updates will happen next week09:53
Chmdumm09:53
geokokthanks seveas and pike. I ll try and will let u know.09:53
siloxSeveas09:53
Chmdi reinstalled ubuntu09:53
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Chmddid all updates09:53
siloxsnd_usb_audio          78880  209:53
siloxsnd_pcm_oss            46080  009:53
Chmddownloaded 8776 nvidia drivers09:54
siloxsnd_mixer_oss          18560  1 snd_pcm_oss09:54
pike_geokok: there were severy mistypes there but you get the idea :) iptables -P something ACCEPT09:54
siloxsnd_pcm                80520  3 snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss09:54
njal_!grub09:54
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:54
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Chmdeverything is fine till i reboot09:54
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SeveasChmd, after a kernel update you'll hav to reinstall nvidia09:54
Chmdupon reboot it complains about nvidia-kernel module 7174 when i have 877609:54
Seveasso you now have to reinstall nvidia09:54
Chmdhmm i have09:54
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Chmdill try again09:54
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silox__still there?09:55
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proofhow can you watch videos on firefox if you need the wmp plugin?09:55
BooBarit dosent work09:55
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Seveasproof, mozilla-mplayer + w32codecs09:56
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silox__did u see my output?09:56
NeoThermicok, if I allocate a 20GB drive in terms of a 1GB ext3 and 17GB resiserfs, ubuntu will use that correctly for swap and root respecticly, yes?09:56
proofseveas can you link me to that please09:56
Seveas!mplayer > proof09:56
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Seveas!w32codecs > proof09:56
HendikinsDoesn't do much good if it requires scripting WMP or does detection of WMP :-)09:56
silox__Seveas did u see my output?09:56
Hendikins(in which case you basically get stuck with CrossOver + WMP itself, or WINE)09:57
ianmacgregorsilox__: Oh, he saw it ;)09:57
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cainlevyLjL: can't find anything in the logs09:57
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silox__ianmacgregor hehe ;)09:57
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ifrozenhi09:57
pike_NeoThermic: you want the 1G partition as swap?09:57
NeoThermicyes09:58
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KenSentMeHow do i open window 11 and 12 in irssi?09:58
LjLcainlevy: look in /var/log/syslog... you should have at least some lines like    /var/log/syslog:Oct 23 19:29:51 ljlhead dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 1.55.222.80 port 6709:58
NeoThermicthe laptop suffers at this moment in time from a stupid lack of RAM (256), so I wish to make sure swap is sufficent.09:58
leakd oops.09:58
NeoThermicAlthough, is 1G a bit excessive?09:58
ianmacgregorKenSentMe: ALT+q and ALT+w09:58
silox__What should i do to get my AUDIO to work?? Please, someone09:58
iterNeoThermic: 2x your ram is a good ballpark09:58
NeoThermicheh, that'd only be 512M09:59
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pike_NeoThermic: you would select swap then not ext3 unless you wanted to make like a swapfile or something.  i never touch swap much and use 256mb but i guess it might depend on your situation09:59
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aoupihi, anyone know how to be 2 users at the same terminal? (ytalk isn't doing it)09:59
iterif you have the extra space though, and plan to upgrade ram in the future....09:59
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PSUSIimho 1x your ram is more than sufficient09:59
LjLcainlevy: besides, one thing i'd try, personally, would be to just power off the machine, wait a couple of minutes, power it on, and see when happens when/if i get a new DHCP lease on a different address ;-)09:59
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NeoThermicpike_: ah, there's a swap option09:59
clarkbaumgartnerOk, so: My sound stopped working. Whenever i would do anything sound related ubuntu would tell me that certain Gstreamer or alsa plugins were missing. The people on the forums told me I should use the package manager to reinstall everything relating to those two, then restart. Nothing happened. They then told me 'completely remove' all Gstreamer and Alsa stuff then reinstall all of them. Now when I turn my computer on 09:59
NeoThermicI'll make it 768M09:59
NeoThermicand see how that goes09:59
NeoThermicthe option for swap is linux-swap, right, I'm not being silly in selecting that?10:00
ChmdOk Alakazamz0r i have reinstalled the drivers and everything is fine right now but after I reboot I will have the same problem so I will check that out10:01
Chmdbrb10:01
Chmd:)10:01
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Alakazamz0rko chm10:01
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iterNeoThermic: yep swap10:01
Alakazamz0rko chad10:01
NeoThermicright10:01
ryanakcaanybody have a link on booting from CD... bios...10:01
NeoThermichere goes nothing10:01
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NeoThermicworst-case, I just have to do this again :)10:02
pike_ryanakca: what laptop manufacturer?10:02
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DrBanzaiIs there a good How-To on setting up syslog to log for remote systems?10:02
pike_ryanakca: or desktop i guess10:02
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ryanakcapike_: dunno, this guy has an intel... and it's 'DELETE' to get into bios10:02
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Seveasproof, stop dccing me10:03
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ryanakcapike_:  I explained to him the idea, and I'm hoping it'll work, he's testing it now, but if it doesn't, I want to have a link :)10:04
cainlevyLjL: still combing the log files for something suspicious ... we did reboot once, but didn't leave it off for very long10:04
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cainlevyLjL: sounds like a windows fix ;)10:04
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tuxtuxciao a tutti10:04
Seveas!it10:04
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:04
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aoupianyone know of a way to multiplayer ssh :) I need to be able to use the same terminal as another person simultaniously10:04
Braindeadaoupi: screen10:04
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LjLSeveas: useless. this guy always says "ciao a tutti" when he joins and when he leaves. tried to tell him a few times...10:04
Seveasah10:05
nuked_omenaoupi: su10:05
Seveasautomessages are bannable10:05
nuked_omensu user10:05
aoupiBraindead: can I be 2 users in that, awsome10:05
digit_so, when gnome starts, the application font is too small. if i open up the fonts dialog, change nothing, and close it, they return to normal....10:05
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marcrosoftwhen i try to do a apt-get install -f i get the following error corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)10:05
aoupinuked_omen: no 2 different people at the same time :)10:05
Seveashmm, dynamic ip10:05
marcrosoftErrors were encountered while processing:10:05
aoupinuked_omen: ssh'ing to the same puter10:05
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nuked_omenok10:05
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marcrosoft /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-pde_3.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb10:05
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Lightenixanyone knows how to fix apt-get if i deleted some files by hand?:P10:05
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marcrosoftlast time i cleared it with dpkg --clear-avail ... but that isn't working this time10:06
SeveasLightenix, depends on which files10:06
nuked_omeni got a command that will run photoshop under ubunut, when i put this command in a luncher icon, it does not excute10:06
Lightenixmmm well i deleted all files that were found by locate eclipse10:06
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ryanakcapike_:  northern micro10:06
Seveasapt-get install --reinstall eclipse10:06
nuked_omenit says failed to excute child process WINEDLLOVERRIDES=wintab32=n10:06
compengiSeveas, is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-386 the newest one for i386 system?10:07
siloxFinally some success! Now i got the USB card to work in the OS, i can play music etc. but it still shows the dev/dsp/audio error when i try to start Americas Army (no sound), whats whrong??10:07
Seveascompengi, it's the generic metapackage for dapper10:07
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compengiSeveas, how do i check my kernel version?10:07
nuked_omensilox: what program?10:07
Braindeadaoupi: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/14/194524910:07
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Lightenixno it is not working, it says this: Nap http://si.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe eclipse 3.1.2-1ubuntu610:08
Lightenix  Zaasna napaka pri razreevanju 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'10:08
Seveascompengi, uname -r10:08
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siloxnuked_omen Americans Army armyops10:08
Lightenixwhich means like temporary error or smthing at 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'10:08
nuked_omenthat's like a name for a movie10:08
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DeZusaI've added two DNS servers in the Network Connections, but Ubuntu keeps erasing them now and again and re-adding the default one. This causes my connection to die. What can I do?`10:08
Chmdok Alakazamz0r here is the error I get when I reboot http://pastebin.ca/21773610:08
ryanakcaanybody have a link on booting from CD... Northern Micro, BIOS...10:09
Chmdif you dont mind lookin at it10:09
Chmdthat is10:09
pike_ryanakca: no telling really. ive found non-tech people do pretty good editing bios as long as they have you on the phone and can say "i see this.. is that right?"10:09
SeveasDeZusa, fix your dhcp server10:09
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ryanakcakk10:09
nuked_omenit's hard to get help when people who need help is a lot more than people who help10:09
siloxnuked_omen no its a game, free and avaible for Linux :)10:09
LjLcainlevy: yeah but then we're trying to fix something that, imho, is not the computer's problem, but something on the network... by the way, is the switch you said you're under just a switch, or a router? and you said you had access to some router -- can you force it to lease a new IP address?10:09
nuked_omenare*10:09
DeZusaSeveas: are there settings for that?10:09
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LightenixDeZusa: it worked for me, that i wrote right dns names, and then installed resolvconf10:09
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DeZusaor rather, where do I find them?10:09
nuked_omensilox: do 'killall /dev/dsp' and try again10:10
siloxyes10:10
siloxnuked_omen okay10:10
compengiSeveas, my kernel version is 2.6.15-27-386 but i can't find linux-restricted-modules for this kernel version it latest is 2.6.15-26-386 , what should i do?10:10
compengiSeveas, my kernel version is 2.6.15-27-386 but i can't find linux-restricted-modules for this kernel version the latest is 2.6.15-26-386 , what should i do?*10:10
siloxnuked_omen /dev/dsp cant find...10:10
DeZusaLightenix; what's resolvconf?10:10
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nuked_omensilox: try 'killall dsp'10:11
T`2anyone know if ubuntu edgy release on schedule for 26th?10:11
siloxnuked_omen no process ended10:11
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cainlevyLjL: we're both connected to the same 10/100 switch which then plugins into the wall, gets switched another couple of times (i think), and hits our public router. i'm checking for a way to view connected computers or force a dhcp renewal...10:11
SeveasT`2, #ubuntu+110:11
nuked_omensilox: ok.. what's the command to play the game?10:11
siloxnuked_omen gamefolder ./armyops10:11
T`2Seveas, thanks10:12
nuked_omensilox: type 'aoss ./armyops'10:12
siloxnuked_omen okay10:12
hoze_I have a Belkin USB wireless card.  When booted with the Live CD i'm not connected to the network.  Will it work once installed properly?10:12
Distro^Junkiesilox, what version of americas army ?10:12
compengiSeveas, so?10:12
siloxnuked_omen cant find aoss10:13
siloxDistro^Junkie 2.1.010:13
Seveas!info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-38610:13
ubotulinux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-5 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB10:13
Distro^Junkiewow that's old10:13
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Seveascompengi, it exists - check your sources.list10:13
nuked_omensilox: i assume you're not on ubuntu10:13
siloxDistro^Junkie hehe couldnt find anything newer for linux10:14
compengiSeveas, i can't find it in repos =/10:14
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Distro^Junkieand you won't as they are not working on linux anymore10:14
Alakazamz0rlooking chad10:14
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siloxnuked_omen i am on ubuntu now10:14
greenmanhello.  I'm going to be new to ubuntu, and i was wondering.  Is it pretty simple, or complicated to setup ubuntu to be 64bit native, but allow you to run 32 bit apps?10:14
Distro^Junkieyou could try using wine and getting the latest version of AAO10:14
Seveasgreenman, not too simple10:14
compengiSeveas, i see only 686 and k7 =/10:14
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Seveascompengi, if ubotu says it exists, then it exists ;)10:15
greenmanSeveas: hmm...  do you get noticable improvement running 64?  or should i just make it be 32?10:15
hoze_How would I go about installing a USB network adapter with ubuntu?10:15
nuked_omensilox: hmm, i don't know how to solve your problem, i don't know much but that's what i do to get pretty much anything working10:15
chuckypDistro^Junkie, does aao have a linux version?10:15
nuked_omenanyone else knows?10:15
Seveasgreenman, depends on what you do10:15
compengiSeveas, i totaly agree, but should i do to have it :D10:15
siloxnuked_omen okay thx for the help anyway10:15
nuked_omennp10:15
compengiSeveas, i totaly agree, but what should i do to have it :D*10:15
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greenmanSeveas: this box just sits there and serves web pages.  and does a little bit of mailing.10:16
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cainlevyLjL: we're trying the shutdown. i'm going to grab lunch ... be back in 10. thanks for helping thus far.10:16
siloxDistro^Junkie do u think that it could help if i reinstall AA?10:16
Seveascompengi, point your sources.list to the base archive10:16
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Distro^Junkiechuckyp, the last version they made of linux was 2.510:16
compengiSeveas, okay 1min10:16
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greenmanSeveas: i want to run BOINC so it can fold protiens, but they refuse to recompile a 64bit version of thier app10:16
Seveasgreenman, then go32bit10:16
Lightenixsoo anyone knows how to fix that apt-get? it wont even apt-get update :X10:16
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SeveasLightenix, point your sources.list to another mirror10:17
greenmanSeveas: cool.  and setup, is it pretty simple?  I remember back in the day, there were a few hoops you had to jump through, but that was at least two years ago.10:17
Chmdmother of pearl has anyone received this error??? http://pastebin.ca/21773610:17
compengi!source list10:17
Seveasgreenman, it's insanely easy ;)10:17
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Seveas!sources.list | compengi10:17
ubotucompengi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:17
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Alakazamz0rchad, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-83b2f9b8c18db15e641ed9e0be8f9a8364001e5b10:18
wikijeffIs there a way to startx in recovery mode as a user without root privileges?10:18
greenmanSeveas: should I get the Desktop or the Server version?  I'm thinking Server, so I don't have to configure LAMP seperately...10:18
LjLcainlevy: i suggest you also try a UDP service... can't think of one that's easy to test though, right now. well, besides DNS, but we know that one works10:18
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Seveasgreenman, sounds like a plan10:19
Dr_williswikijeff,  if you are in rescue mode logged in as root. use startx10:19
greenmanSeveas: thanks for the help btw.10:19
LjLcainlevy: (by the way, ping uses the ICMP protocol, which is neither TCP nor UDP)10:19
hoze_Ok, i'm guessing no one uses a USB device.  In that case, can anyone recommend a decent wireless card for use with Ubuntu?10:19
pike_Chmd: you recently did apt-get update or something?10:19
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greenmanSeveas: one more question.  i have config files from gentoo and they are kinda convoluted, is ubuntu apache broken up into sections or one httpd.conf?10:20
Chmdyes i did10:20
wikijeffDr_willis, is rescue mode the same as recovery mode?10:20
Seveashoze_, anything with intel or atheros chip on a pci or pcmcia card10:20
Chmdanyway to fix it? LOL10:20
compengiSeveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28005/10:20
Seveasgreenman, ubuntu apache config is a dream 10:20
pike_Chmd: did you use the nvidia install.sh or did you install via apt-get nvidia-glx?10:20
Chmdnvidia installer10:20
greenmanSeveas: :)10:20
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pike_Chmd: every time you update and kernel changes youll have to redo the installer if you dont use apt-get i believe10:21
Dr_williswikijeff,  its booting to single user mode.. they just use silly names for them10:21
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wikijeffDr_willis, ok thanks10:21
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greenmanSeveas: hah, one more question I guess.  which is faster, plain file or torrent?10:21
Chmdi have redone the installer and it works fine till i reboot when I reboot I get that error pasted in pastebin10:21
joshierCould someone please confirm if the MSN network is down?... it signs on (JUST) and I only have one person online10:21
Seveasgreenman, depends on your luck10:21
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greenmanSeveas: oh?  hmm...  I have a 4M pipe, does that make a difference?10:22
spdfjoshier, fine here10:22
Seveasgreenman, try the normal download10:23
compengiSeveas, ?10:23
LjLSeveas, HTTP is faster, if you use axel and download from two US mirrors and 4 EU mirrors at the same time ;-P10:23
greenmanokay.  :)10:23
Seveasbittorent is initially slower10:23
joshier/spdf\: thanks, I'm attempting to use www.meebo.com now10:23
Seveasbefore bittorrent speeds up, your fatpipe already downloaded the iso10:23
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Braindeadbittorrent is better on a morality level10:24
joshier/spdf\: what MSN client are you using?.. I use Gaim10:24
spdfjoshier, Gaim here10:24
osloBy default, `make install' will install the package's files in`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.; where is it on kubuntu ???10:24
compengiSeveas, have you got my source list?10:25
Seveascompengi, no10:25
oslojoshier amsn10:25
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compengiO.o10:25
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Braindeadoslo: by default you don't make install nothing on ubuntu.10:25
compengii pasted10:25
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compengiSeveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28005/10:25
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Seveascompengi, plf isdead, you should remove it10:25
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Seveasapart fromthat it looks ok10:26
BIRDBHas anyone ever used ASTERISK VOPU?10:26
BIRDBVOIP*10:26
compengiSeveas, what's plf?10:26
SeveasBIRDB, easy on the caps kthxbye10:26
greenmanhmm...  Server install doesn't install a GUI?10:26
Seveascompengi, 20. deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free10:26
Seveasgreenman, correct10:26
greenmanis it pretty easy to do?10:26
Seveasyes10:26
Braindeadgreenman: do servers need gui?10:26
Seveasapt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:26
Seveasand you have a desktop10:26
osloBraindead> i need to install ftp monitor [ http://queens.db.toronto.edu/~nilesh/linux/ftpmonitor/?w=download ]  but after make install all seems ok, but no way to find it, i'm lost10:26
greenmanBraindead: technically no, but I like it.10:27
joshierHow do I add an exception to firefox for a popup?10:27
iterBIRDB: there is an asterisk distro if you want to play with it10:27
Braindeadoslo: check the makefile10:27
compengiSeveas, i only remove it?10:27
Braindeadoslo: or use checkinstall10:27
iterBIRDB: also a vmware appliance10:27
Seveascompengi, yup10:27
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greenmanSeveas: cool, so you use apt-get for installing stuff?  kinda like emerge in gentoo?10:27
Seveasyup10:27
pike_greenman: you want a minimal desktop or gnome? your easy options are xubuntu ubuntu kubuntu10:27
Braindeadgreenman: might as well use aptitude from the start,instead of apt-get10:27
Music_Shufflejoshier, to allow popups for a specific site?10:28
greenmanaptitude?10:28
SeveasBraindead, aptitude is slower and no longer has any advantages10:28
BraindeadSeveas: that's plain FUD10:28
cainlevyLjL: back. after that reboot he can't ping anymore, and his ifconfig shows ipv6 addresses instead of ipv4. does that make the problem more or less obvious? :)10:28
compengiSeveas, i have it installed :D10:28
Braindead  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html10:28
greenmanpike_: i'm used to using kde, but i like like the way gnome looks.  i heard the new kde is supposed to be good, but it's not done yet is it?10:28
SeveasBraindead, that's 2004...10:28
Seveasapt-get evolved...10:28
BIRDBiter where can I get these?10:28
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nuked_omeni need to create a launcher that will excute a command.. how is this possible?10:28
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Ackart-The-FoxIf I install the x64 version of Ubuntu, will I have an especially hard time finding drivers for all my devices?10:29
nuked_omeni created one and it says Details: Failed to execute child process "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=wintab32=n"10:29
BraindeadSeveas: that's still better than plain shitty apt-get10:29
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compengiSeveas, so according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia i should only install nvidia-glx-legacy right? if i don't want to compile anything10:29
nuked_omenwhy did Braindead leave10:29
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greenmannuked_omen: he swore10:29
LjLSeveas, i think aptitude still has advantages at least until you install edgy...?10:29
Seveasnuked_omen, Imadehim leave for swearing10:29
nuked_omenso what10:30
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greenmanedgy?10:30
SeveasLjL, true10:30
nuked_omendon't you swear sometimes10:30
LjL!edgy > greenman10:30
LjL!language > nuked_omen10:30
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cyber!language10:30
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:30
chuckypgreenman, #ubuntu+110:30
Braindeadwtf ?10:30
nuked_omenhe was saying his opinios10:30
pike_greenman: i dont know. havent followed either of the big environments i use either xubuntu (xfce) or flux normally10:30
nuked_omenopinion*10:30
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osloBraindead> here is my makefile, i cant find where it is ..pleaz help10:30
Seveasnuked_omen, you don't need to swear for that10:30
cyberits his opinion but language is still to be monitored :P10:30
chuckypBraindead, you have to watch you language in here.10:30
BraindeadSeveas: get aptitude-doc-en. and read it. or at least stop spreading FUD10:30
Braindeadchuckyp: which word?10:30
greenmani had a very minimal one a long time ago, is that flux?10:31
SeveasBraindead, stop being soagressive10:31
Music_ShuffleFlux is kinda minimal.10:31
Braindeadis "bullshit" politically incorrect?10:31
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chuckyplol10:31
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cyberBraindead, abbreviations count as swearing... just all be happy and keep language out of it :"P10:31
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pike_greenman: possibly. id install xubuntu-desktop first then if you dont like it you can always instlall ubuntu or kubuntu10:31
Music_Shuffle...lol10:31
cainlevyLjL: so there he was, depressed and contemplating just reinstalling windows, when his connection started working again. no idea what changed.10:31
cyberthanks Seveas10:31
Music_Shufflecainlevy, pondering Windows is what did it.10:32
greenmanah, i remember.  i had blackbox.  so, I think i'd like flux10:32
compengiSeveas, so?10:32
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cainlevyMusic_Shuffle: yeah, ubuntu's getting smart these days ... "oh no, he's going to switch? ok, i'll play nice!" ;)10:32
chuckypgreenman, well you could install blackbox10:32
Music_ShuffleXD10:32
chuckypgreenman, xfce is antoher one too.10:32
Music_ShuffleWhat differences exist between Ubuntu and XFCE?10:33
nuked_omen!stuff10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
Music_ShuffleThey seem to be nearly the same. >.>10:33
FlannelMusic_Shuffle: You mean the difference between gnome and xfce?10:33
nuked_omenthe window manager is different10:33
LjLcainlevy: well, one thing - perhaps disable ipv6 for a start, unless you need it. i've heard it has caused problems before, don't know exactly why, possibly because things ended up being routed through it rather than through ipv4... or whatever. anyway, /etc/network/interfaces and make it go away is my suggestion10:33
Lightenixnope i think it is not working10:33
Lightenixwell10:33
Music_Shuffle.Sigh. Right.10:34
CarinArrgreenman, you'll want fluxbox.. it's more or less the same, but is still being developped10:34
Lightenixany hints how to delete in apt-get all settings or set them to default value?10:34
cainlevyLjL: will do. thanks much.10:34
FlannelMusic_Shuffle: xfce uses gnome libraries, but it's more lightweight10:34
pike_greenman: fluxbox with windowmaker apps and a decent theme is pretty nice10:34
nuked_omenthis room is full of newbies.. even people who help are10:34
Pleceboanyone here who might be able to help me with a dmraid problem i'm having?10:34
greenmansounds like a plan, and fluxbox is xubuntu?10:34
SeveasFlannel, xfce doesn'tusegnomelibraries10:34
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FlannelLightenix: of a package? the --purge option10:34
CarinArrgreenman, er no i don't think so10:34
greenmanpike_: windowmaker apps?10:34
nuked_omenrtfm people10:34
SeveasFlannel, it uses gtk, and avoids all gnomelobs10:34
Seveaslibs*10:34
compengiSeveas, after i have done what's written on that site i ran the command given i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28007/10:34
chuckypgreenman, No I dont' believe fluxbox is in xubuntu10:34
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greenmanCarinArr: oh.  hmm...  i guess I'll play with it after i get it all installed10:35
Seveas!flubox10:35
FlannelSeveas: ah, right. gtk != gnome.10:35
Seveas!fluxbox10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flubox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
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ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox10:35
CarinArrgreenman, you can just install the fluxbox package on a normal ubuntu install and choose fluxbox from the sessions at login10:35
BIRDBDoes anyone know any good keyloggers that I can use to monitor my kids that work on ubuntu linux?10:35
nuked_omen!life10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
Seveascompengi, manually change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf10:35
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chuckypgreenman, just do a server install then add whatever wm you want later10:35
pike_greenman: xubuntu is xfce but it might be best to install xubuntu and then fluxbox and choose between at login10:35
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Seveasnuked_omen, stopplaying with the bot10:35
nuked_omenyeah, it's obvious you don't know anything about life.. you're a bot10:35
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nuked_omen!me10:36
assasukassehi all10:36
chuckypgreenman, server install will not install a window manager then you could just sudo apt-get install fluxbox10:36
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
assasukasseif i want to build a module10:36
nuked_omenSeveas: why? it's fun10:36
PSUSIBIRDB: yes... sit behind them and observe10:36
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assasukasseshould i install kernel headers or kernel source10:36
Music_ShuffleY'know..some people might actually need..help.10:36
iterBIRDB: the distro is trixbox, at trixbox.org10:36
iterBIRDB: and the appliance is at http://serge.mankovski.com/voip/asteriskhome-25-vmware10:36
greenmanoh, yeah.  one more question.  which is better as far as making them play well together?  ubuntu first then windows, or windows then ubuntu?10:36
tamacrackerHey guys?... quick yes or no question, does GIMP have downloadable filters/plugins?10:36
jeeves_Mossall:  does anyone know of a good simple program to merge a large number of small PCAP files into one large one?10:36
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Seveastamacracker, ys10:36
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Seveasgreenman, windows first, otherwise windows will destroy grub10:36
Studiosusjeeves_Moss, bash + cat?10:37
LjLtamacracker: enable universe, and then type "apt-cache search gimp plug"10:37
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thcrw8383No!10:37
greenmanSeveas: cool.10:37
tamacrackerSeveas, last question... does our package manager have them listed? Or do we need to independently download them?10:37
Storkhow do i configure a screensaver??10:37
greenmanthanks a lot everyone10:37
compengiSeveas, i did the editing, and ran again the command i got the same result10:37
iterBIRDB: ah looks like trixbox now has a vmware app too10:37
tamacrackerLjL beautiful, thank you :D10:37
Seveastamacracker, the latter10:37
pike_Stork: xscreensaver-demo10:37
LjLtamacracker: of course there are a lot more that aren't packaged, though10:37
tamacrackerthank you too Seveas :D10:37
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jeeves_MossStudiosus:  hummm, I'm a n00b, so I need something simple.  I was going to use Etheral, but it will only allow you to merge 2 files @ a time, and I have like 60 of them10:37
greenmanyou guys seem pretty friendly.  which is good cause no doubt I'll be back when i'm installing.  :)10:37
nuked_omenyou feel so monitored in this room.. it's like someone babysitting you10:38
nuked_omenthere is no freedom at all10:38
Storkpike_, i don't have that10:38
Seveasnuked_omen, onlyifyou misbehave10:38
nuked_omenwatch your language, don't play with the bot10:38
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nuked_omendon't masturbate10:38
assasukassei need to compile an ACPI module, with only kernel headers doesn't work, should i install kernel source as well?10:38
Studiosuswhat means 'merge'? put contents in one file one after another?10:38
chuckypgreenman, no problem jsut come in and ask away.  Your best bet is to check out the desktop guide let me get you the link10:38
Seveasnuked_omen, you confuse freedom with misbehaving10:38
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treitterdoes GRUB have keyboard translations? (it seems to hard-code a US keyboard, in the source I'm looking at)10:38
jeeves_MossStudiosus:  I need to combine 60 small packet dump files into one large file.10:38
chuckypgreenman, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html10:38
pike_Stork: you would type that in a terminal window. i know there is a link in you gnome menus but i dont know where10:39
siloxokay now I have REINSTALLED Amercans Army but it still shows "/dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory" in terminal... How can i change it to use my USB audiocard? I have disabled the internal, thats why it complains..10:39
compengiSeveas, what should i do?10:39
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Seveascompengi, manually change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf <----10:39
Seveasthen you don't need to run the command10:39
Seveasyou only need to reboot10:39
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tamacrackerLjL what's the code to get all the plugins at once?10:39
chuckypStudiosus, could you just cat file1 file2 file3 > finalfile10:39
EmxBAlooks like firefox 2.0 is going to release tomorow, will it be added to repositories soon?10:39
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compengiSeveas, i see, cause i ran the same command i got the same result10:40
LjLtamacracker: there is none10:40
SeveasEmxBA, it already is10:40
tamacrackerapt-get gimp plug10:40
chuckypEmxBA, its already in10:40
ryanakcadoes the ubuntu live cd come with audacity?10:40
tamacrackeror i have to get them one by one?10:40
LjLtamacracker: just type "sudo apt-get install plugin1 plugin2 etc"10:40
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ryanakca(the Dapper one)10:40
compengiSeveas, i'll reboot10:40
Studiosusfor example, type something like this in terminal: for i in * ; do cat $i > /tmp/result ; done10:40
Music_Shuffleryanakca, no10:40
EmxBASeveas: hi seveas, let me update my package list...10:40
LjLtamacracker: no, you'll have to get them one by one. "gimp plug" is just a search term, which also shows things that really *aren't* gimp plugins10:40
Seveasryanakca, no10:40
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Studiosussorry, for i in * ; do cat $i >> /tmp/result ; done10:40
tamacrackeri understand10:40
tamacrackerthank you LjL10:40
Studiosusnote >> instead of >10:40
jeeves_MossStudiosus: well, I was looking for something simplier.  It also needs to sort the entries by date/time10:41
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Storkpike_, so i should install xscreensaver and remove gnome-screensaver ?10:41
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chuckypjeeves_Moss, well you could write your own script to do that.10:41
Snake__how safe is apt-get upgrading to edgy10:41
silox"/dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory" gets up when i try to start americans army, whats wrong?10:41
EmxBASeveas: in which repo?10:41
narayanawhen i try to compile a module it says that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6/build. Where can i get this build direcotry?10:41
chuckypSnake__, safe as replacing damn near every file in your system can be I guess10:41
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  I'm a n00b, so I don't know what to do10:41
SeveasEmxBA, edgy, main10:41
chuckypSnake__, backup important data first10:42
EmxBAand dapper?10:42
chuckypjeeves_Moss, did you search repos or google its possible someone mad an app to do that already.10:42
pike_Stork: ah well im not familiar with gnome screensaver never used it.  so i guess i would but maybe you shouldnt :)10:42
Seveaswon't get it before mozilla drops supportfor1.510:42
Studiosusthen use find (1), it has all you need and you won't need installing some application. anyway, to make use of linux you'll need to learn some shell scripting10:42
Snake__chuckyp, okie dokie10:42
Music_ShuffleHow soon you think they'll do that?10:42
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Seveastoo soon10:42
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  it seems odd that when I do, I can't find much.  I'm not sure if I'm doing the right syntax though10:42
Music_ShuffleHeheh...tomorrow-type too soon?10:42
chuckypSnake__, also make sure you have the ubuntu-desktop meta package install first as well.10:42
Snake__any other opinions?10:42
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oslog trouv apres un make install ce fichier: /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop comment je lance ftpmonitor ??10:43
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Seveas!fr10:43
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:43
chuckypjeeves_Moss, what kind of files where they?10:43
Studiosustry to look at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/10:43
Studiosusit has very good manual on shell scripting10:43
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Snake__No one else to chime in??10:43
pike_silox: you could maybe add a sym link under /dev/dsp pointing to the other sound card but im sure there is a better solution10:44
Studiosusyou could also do 'apt-get install abs-guide'10:44
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jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  they are CAP files.  I've been trying to capture the MAC of some one trying to WEP crack my distrubuted network.  I did a massive dump from all of my access points, and it saves the files as a *.CAP10:44
Music_ShuffleSnake__, on what?10:44
Snake__How safe a apt upgrade to edgy is10:44
Snake__from dapper10:44
siloxpike_ interesting, but how do i do that :)10:44
SeveasSnake__, it's not released soit has to be considered unstable10:44
alekzhi, where is the disk administration menu on 6.10 ?10:44
Seveasbut it's safe enough 10:44
pike_silox: you only have the usb sound card?10:44
Snake__Seveas, and when its released will it be much safer?? All I know is Breezy -> Dapper was hell10:44
jeeves_Mosschuckyp: the problem is that the software saves a bunch of small files insted of one large file.10:45
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Music_ShuffleSorry, I haven't done it, but I think I can afford to wait a bit. Few months won't hurt anything.10:45
EmxBAso, Seveas , can i just change dapper to edgy in sources.list? :)10:45
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SeveasSnake__, as long as you stick tosudo update-manager -c -d, you'll be fine10:45
siloxpike_ yes ive disabled the other becaus i cant use headphones in that, the sound worked with that but not on this..10:45
chuckypjeeves_Moss, http://indev.insu.com/Fwctl/pcapmerge.html10:45
Snake__Seveas, okie dokie10:45
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osloafter i done a make install, trying to launch the apps, /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop , does this one can help me run ftpmonitor, 'cause i'm not finding how ???10:45
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pike_silox: and if you type cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp you get no sound right?10:46
chuckypjeeves_Moss, I'm sure you'd be able to find a similiar app using google if that one doesn't work.10:46
Seveasoslo, google translation doesn't really make it understandable --try #ubuntu-fr forfrench10:46
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  thanks guy.  I've been looking for something like this for a while now.  Hopefully I can sort through this mess and find the guy who is doing this.  I think it's a guest of an employee who waits for them in the waiting room10:46
pike_silox: i dont want to tell you do do something that might break sound10:46
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siloxpike_ it says that the drive is full :/10:47
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chuckypjeeves_Moss, How are you assuming someone is trying to crack the wep?10:47
EmxBAoh i see lots of new packages in edgy10:48
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osloSeveas> fine but the tranlation was from my own10:48
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chuckypSeveas, how is update-manager -c -d different than a apt dist-upgrade?10:48
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cyberhmm10:49
siloxpike_ any new ideas how i can fix this? :)10:49
cyberaircrack is in synaptic10:49
Seveaschuckyp, not everything can be expressed as apt relationships10:49
cyberlol & that10:49
cyber@**10:49
kingacehello10:49
Seveasupdate-manager is more intelligent10:49
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  there is a MASSIVE amount of misformed packets that are on the network for about an hour, then it stops.  I've gone around to look @ the differen't wireless devices, and none of the MAC address of them match the one that's causing problems.10:49
pike_silox: ok that is an odd message so im not going to lead you any further down that road :)10:49
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kingacei just grabbed amaroK10:49
macdoevening, my problem for tonight : at boot, after grub, this message : 'MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IOAPIC'10:49
kingaceim very new to ubuntu10:49
chuckypSeveas, ahh gotcha so we should be telling people to use update-manager -c -d10:49
Seveaschuckyp, yes10:49
compengi!nvidia10:49
kingaceand it doesnt seem to play my mp3s10:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:49
proofljl10:49
siloxpike_ okay ^^10:49
alekzhi, where is the disk administration menu on edgy ?10:49
LjLoslo: try /usr/local/kde/bin/ftpmonitor - just a guess10:49
EmxBAoooh there is a update manager , Seveas10:49
kingaceit skips through them10:49
kingaceother sound works though10:49
proofi finished downloading the new ubuntu you told me to download what do i do now10:49
EmxBAupdate-manager -c -d installs upgrade manager for edgy10:49
EmxBAcol ;)10:49
macdothen everything just stays there, no boot10:49
EmxBA*cool10:49
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chuckypjeeves_Moss, hrm... well when the activity start check outside and all around the building for someone that's out of place.10:50
siloxpike_ any other ideas?10:50
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cyberkingace, did you check synaptic? there are alot of Mp3 players & stuff :P10:50
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cyberi just went through some of the stuff in there10:50
Pasteurizedhi all10:50
LjLproof: well, now burn it. i usually use a command such as "cdrecord -sao -speed=16 -data filename.iso" from the console, but perhaps you might prefer a graphical program. not sure if Hoary comes with one by default10:50
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x80Can anyone help me with this: i have a lucent win modem with a 2.4.29 kernel, lspci shows the modem information yet kppp keeps returning "modem is busy", can anyone help?10:50
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  we're localted out in the country, so there isn't much around, and other than our office, it's a "dead zone"10:50
chuckypSeveas, they still need to change their sources.list correct?10:50
proofwhere do i use that command ?10:51
LjL!mpe > kingace10:51
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:51
LjLproof: in a shell. Applications / Accessories / Terminal, i think it is on Gnome10:51
pike_silox: if it were regular hardware of this were solaris maybe but im not sure how ubuntu handles that usb device10:51
chuckypjeeves_Moss, hrm... yeah check out that util but most likely you could find otu who it is just by walking around.   Or you could set up a honey pot etc... there are many things to get them.10:51
PasteurizedI'm using MPD + Sonata Music Player, but I havent any sound while playing music, any idea plz ?10:51
x80Alsamixer.10:51
pike_silox: sry10:51
Flannelchuckyp: not if they update manager, no.10:51
chuckypFlannel, ahh cool.10:52
Flannel!upgrade | chuckyp, this has all the details10:52
ubotuchuckyp, this has all the details: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:52
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  all I know is that if I find them, I'm going to smash what ever laptop or PDA they're using.10:52
siloxpike_ okay thx anyway (C-Media Headphone Set) its the drivers..10:52
osloLjL> nop10:52
siloxany other who knows how to fix this audio problem?10:53
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  my luck is that it's some one who lives accross the street with a CANtenna10:53
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LjL!checkinstall > oslo10:53
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compengiSeveas, thank you very much it's working now fine :D10:53
LjLoslo: try running the make install again, using checkinstall instead. then, you'll be able to type "dpkg -L packagename" to see where all the files are10:53
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siloxo_O are u still there?10:53
cyberhmm10:53
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cyberif i download some thing from synaptic, where would it go?10:54
proofljl can you help me get windows xp professional10:54
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chuckypjeeves_Moss, yeah the only way you could really try and locate them is by some sort of signal strength meter.10:54
pike_silox: sblive cards are pretty cheap :)10:54
proofi dont wanna use linux its to hard10:54
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Pasteurizedx80: what should I check ?10:54
cyberbecause i downloaded 3 packages & they supposedly installed but i dont know where to find them :/10:54
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  I'm tempted to go dust off my college electronics books and build one.10:54
LjL!windows10:54
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  -  !equivalents  -  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm10:54
LjLproof: ^^10:54
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x80Terminal => alsamixer.10:54
kingaceI get this error:10:54
alekzwich is the channel for edgy ?10:54
kingacePackage gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:54
fbcI was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?10:54
NeoThermic..10:54
x80Press "m" to unmute selections.10:55
PSUSIcyber: you mean if you install a package but click download only?10:55
siloxpike_ okay but if i can listen on music and all it should work in AA also, right? :/10:55
cyberi dont know :/10:55
chuckypjeeves_Moss, kismet may be your friend for a while as well.10:55
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CarinArr!edgy10:55
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:55
NeoThermicmy ubuntu CD got so hot during install that it has melted the CD pen writing off10:55
PSUSIcyber: you don't know what?10:55
cyberi clicked the check block & then apply in the top window of synaptic10:55
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jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  I still can't get that software to install.  I'm getting annoyed.  LOL10:55
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PSUSINeoThermic: holy shit.... what kind of fubar cdrom do you have?10:55
NeoThermicah, crap. I've just installed ubuntu, and I get the message: Hard disk boot sector invalid10:55
pike_silox: ive never had a sblive problem in ubuntu that wasnt just a matter of playing witht he volume and other stuff in alsamixer10:56
cyber!language'10:56
cyber!language10:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:56
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:56
siloxpike_ okay ^^10:56
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macdono-one got any ideas abt mp-bios bug ??10:57
cyberi think it went to usr/games PSUSI10:57
NeoThermiceeep, what went wrong? :|10:57
cyberneed to find where aircrack went as well :/10:57
Pasteurizedx80: I didnt see anything which is muted10:57
fbcI was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?10:57
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NeoThermicok, I don't think grub or equivalent was installed, any help on checking if it was and if not, how to install it?10:57
chuckypjeeves_Moss, perhaps check out one of the livecd security distros most of those utilities should be installed already.10:58
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macdocyber: press alt+F2, and type the name of the program into the box10:58
Flannel!tell NeoThermic about grub10:58
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jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  one step ahead of you.10:58
FlannelNeoThermic: the first link there tells you how to reinstall (yes, its for recovering from windows, but how it got uninstalled isnt important)10:58
cyberthanks macdo10:58
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jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  I'm actuly trying to design a peice of hardware for hackers that has WiFi and bluetooh cards in it along with a HDD10:59
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cyberhmm10:59
cyber!hackers > cyber10:59
cyber:P10:59
fbcNeoThermic: Grubs are think worm-like larvae of beetles.11:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hackers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:00
Captain_FlemingHi guys...11:00
cyberthe bot actually tunes u :P11:00
Captain_FlemingI've got this really annoying question...11:00
cybersays i should just msg him instead of spamming :P rofl11:00
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Captain_FlemingAnyone here knows more about "Menu.cc: In member function 'void FbTk::Menu::update(int)':11:00
Captain_FlemingMenu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'"11:00
chuckypjeeves_Moss, there ya go11:00
fbcI was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?11:00
Captain_FlemingAnyone?11:01
jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  do you now how ot get ahold of the guys who do Aircrack-ng?  I've tried e-mailing them, and the accounts don't exist11:01
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StudiosusAFAIK, sticky has nothing to do with ftp11:01
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Studiosussticky bit set for directories means that only owner of file can delete it, even if directory is world-writeable. very useful for /tmp11:02
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Captain_FlemingAnyone here knows about installing fluxspace?11:02
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chuckypjeeves_Moss, not really maybe see if they have a irc channel hanging around or something like that.11:02
chuckyp!info fluxspace11:03
NeoThermicFlannel: those instructions didn't appear to work, upon booting the disk up I do not get an area to type anything, yet alone a boot: prompt. I can, however, use the CD to boot into the HD install of ubuntu; is there anything I can do from there?11:03
ubotuPackage fluxspace does not exist in any distro I know11:03
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Captain_Flemingchuckyp: I know about fluxspace, but I encounter an error when I "make"... :(11:03
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FlannelNeoThermic: that's for the Alternate CD, you want the LiveCD/Desktop instructions11:03
martyndahi, i can't get connector/j to work in ubuntu, have libmysql-java, but it's still not working11:03
NeoThermicFlannel: ah :)11:04
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jeeves_Mosschuckyp:  well, I'd just like to sudgest to them to make a GUI.  That way it's faster to use.  Don't get me wrong, the software is solid, but it's a LOT of command line stuff.11:04
clandestinoHi. How can you change the default umask with pam?11:04
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HeXiOnhello11:04
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alekzhi, where is the disk administration menu on edgy ?11:05
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Flannelalekz: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support11:05
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alekzthanks Flannel11:05
fbcI was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?11:05
HeXiOnI have kernel freezes due my sata drive. I want to try another sata module but cannot unload my current sata module (sata_uli). It says "ERROR: Module sata_uli is in use"   HOW can I unload it?11:05
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NeoThermicFlannel: I'm still a bit out of my depth here :S11:06
Studiosusdoes anyone knows when (if) dapper will get gcc-4.1 toolchain?11:06
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NeoThermichow can I find and confirm my harddisk + boot partition numbers?11:06
Flannelfbc: Studiosus answered you, 4 mins ago, if you've a timestamp11:06
aboanyone knows how can I get the temperature of my CPU?11:06
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FlannelNeoThermic: You know where you have them in linux? (hda1, hdb5, etc?)11:06
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NeoThermicabo: sniff around /proc/acpi/11:07
chuckyp!info gcc11:07
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB11:07
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NeoThermicFlannel: yeah, I can pull up `mount` to tell me11:07
chuckypStudiosus, hrm.. well edgy has 4.1 gcc11:07
Vornotrongcc is only 64k?11:07
Captain_FlemingOk, anyone here please knows about "Menu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'" with fluxspace?11:07
Vornotronman.11:07
NeoThermichda1 is root11:07
FlannelStudiosus: versions will never change on a release11:07
FlannelNeoThermic: and /boot?11:07
fbcFlannel: Cool, thanks... If no one puts my nick in front of a sentence, x-chat does not highlight, and I miss it.11:07
Studiosusgcc-4.0 seems broken to me, it can't compile boost :(11:07
Studiosusand mplayer :(11:07
NeoThermicI do not see a /boot11:07
aboI "apt-get install censors-applet" but can't find it to start it, anyone can help?11:08
FlannelNeoThermic: then /boot is inside of /, so your boot partition is on hda1, which in grub speak is 0,011:08
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NeoThermicso I type root (hd0,0) ?11:08
FlannelNeoThermic: so, either hd(0,0) or hda1, depending on where you're inputting it11:08
flasherso how can one share a internet cable line with more than one computer? what is needed?11:09
NeoThermicI'm at a grub> prompt11:09
Dr_willisabo,  it a gnome panel applet?11:09
FlannelNeoThermic: yes11:09
chuckypflasher, a router or pc with two cards11:09
aboyes11:09
Dr_willisabo,  the panelmenus often have an add to panel/applet thing11:09
CarinArr!ati11:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:09
macdook, FYI: it needed a boot option: not noapic, not acpi_skip_timer_override, but acpi=off11:09
dcordeshi all11:09
flasherchuckyp: a pc with 2 cardS?11:09
macdothanks anyway11:09
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FlannelNeoThermic: whatever that howto says... I don't have it memorized ;)  but, talking to grub, (hd0,0), to linux: hda111:09
Studiosusthen, what compiler version is used to build ubuntu kernels in dapper?11:09
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chuckypflasher, pc with two nics.  one for the WAN connection (internet)  and one for the LAN connection (to go to the other pc)11:09
flasherchuckyp: oh. i don't think many people's computers have 2 nics11:10
Captain_FlemingSince no one seems to know what I'm talking about, is there a synaptec version for fluxspace?11:10
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FlannelStudiosus: the same that's on dapper11:10
flasherchuckyp: if we don't have either option you speak about, it would be cheaper and easier to go buy a router, right?11:10
chuckypflasher, no not really the other option is buying a router.  And you can find them for usually the price of a second network card.11:10
osmanHi All you Ubunters, I am wondering how to change the NIC that sshd binds to as I have added another nic and now cant shell into my box via the new NIC???11:10
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StudiosusFlannel, thx11:10
FlannelCaptain_Fleming: no11:11
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Captain_FlemingDamn... :(11:11
GhostFreemanHow long before Firefox 2 gets posted to universe?11:11
chuckypGhoSt_DoG, its already there11:11
NeoThermicFlannel: ace, I hope this works :)11:11
GhoSt_DoGhumn oO11:11
flasherchuckyp: ok. a router and some of the physical cable11:11
nomasteryodaGhostFreeman, i just insalled it ...11:11
nomasteryodavia updates11:11
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PSUSIosman: iirc it binds to 0.0.0.0 ( all interfaces ) by default11:11
GhostFreemanoh11:11
chuckypflasher, yeah internet connection will go to router  then out of the router you have a cable for each pc.  Or you could go wireless but that would require buying wireless network cards for each pc.11:12
FlannelGhostFreeman: 2.0 will never be in Dapper, only in Edgy, and it already is in main.11:12
osmanwhy can I not shell in then via the new NIC??? PSUSI11:12
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GhostFreemanoh11:12
NeoThermicFlannel: no dice, same message on boot.11:12
osmanalso my APACHE doesnt work via the new NIC and wont start up now, claims that it cannot bind to interface11:12
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crasshow do I initiate hibernate from the terminal?11:13
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chuckypflasher, I recommend a linksys router can be found at walmart kmart or most electronics stores.  And they are very easy to set up.11:13
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FlannelNeoThermic: you followed those instructions on how to reinstall grub? but it didn't reinstall?11:13
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cogitatuswhat's a safe way to remove a soft link?11:13
NeoThermicFlannel: grub said it succeeded in install11:13
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cogitatuswill rm <link> attempt to remove the file it's linked to?11:13
FlannelNeoThermic: what error does it give you on boot?11:13
flasherchuckyp: and cheap hopefully.11:13
cybercogitatus,  be gentle :P11:14
NeoThermicbut when I reboot, I get `Hard disk boot sector invalid`11:14
NeoThermicwhich sounds BIOSie :P11:14
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BlackTigerwant some good music listen to me.... spacesradio.com11:14
XVampireXNO11:14
PSUSIosmon: it probably isn't configured correctly11:14
chuckypflasher, You just want to make sure what ever router you purchase has a WAN port for what you want to do.  Yeah you can get them around $50 or maybe even cheaper for a wired one instead of wireless11:14
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osmancogitatus, you can remove a soft link with rm, for instance if the softlink is a dir make sure it doesnt have the / at the end and it removes the link not the dir11:14
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Paddy_EIREBlackTiger: checking it out11:14
PSUSIosmon: did you assign it a unique IP address?11:14
cogitatusosman, cool. thanks.11:14
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flasherchuckyp: yeah, i think i'll get a wired one.11:15
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PSUSINeoThermic: did you install grub to the MBR or the boot sector?11:15
chuckypflasher, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=350471911:15
NeoThermicPSUSI: I've no idea11:15
osmanPSUSI, well it was working untill I installed a new NIC11:15
BlackTigerPaddy it's not me on air rigth now...11:15
Paddy_EIREk11:15
NeoThermichow can I tell?11:15
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PSUSINeoThermic: I assume you installed grub by hand right?  what commands did you give it?11:16
Paddy_EIREBlackTiger: do you use last.fm11:16
aboNeoThermic, the folder /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty, is that normal?  the censors applet says "no cencors"! could that be right in a new Desktop?11:16
PSUSINeoThermic: specifically, what were the parameters to the setup command?11:16
BlackTigernope what is that11:16
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osmanPSUSI, I just ssh loclahost no problem, but when i shell in from work it dosnt let me , but I could shell in a few days ago,m shit I know what it is I am working on a new vlan, my bad11:16
Paddy_EIREhttp:www.last.fm/ <--its becoming very big11:16
NeoThermicat the grub prompt, I typed `root (hd0,0)` and then `setup (hd0)` and then after it said done, I typed `quit`11:16
flasherchuckyp: thanks11:16
osmanPSUSI, how about apache though ??11:17
chuckypflasher, comes with a cd to setup the router(for windows) .   Although you don't really need the cd.  You just plug in the router according to the directions and to you pc.  THen you go to http://192.168.0.1  in your browser to configure it.11:17
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flasher50 dollars. i wish there was something for less11:17
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Paddy_EIREBlackTiger: oops its actually http://www.last.fm/11:17
PSUSINeoThermic: do you have multiple disk drives?11:17
chuckypflasher, I'm sure there is. if you hunt around like bestbuy or circuit city.11:17
flashergood idea, chuckyp11:17
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PSUSIosman: no idea11:17
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Paddy_EIREBlackTiger: there is a linux version and amarok also works with it11:18
chuckypflasher, i've seen cheaper.  I jsut prefer the linksys for ease of use.   And availibility but there are many others you can try.11:18
BlackTigerbut what is lat.fm11:18
NeoThermicPSUSI: physical drives there's only one, partitions, I had 786M for swap, and 17.88G for root, which is the whole 20G allocated.11:18
czedlitzhow do you start another x server say on display 1?11:18
cyberany way11:18
cybernight all11:18
cyberthanks for anothere day of support11:18
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francesco8-hello11:19
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PSUSINeoThermic: strange.... maybe you do have some whacked out bios?11:19
chuckypflasher, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6359353&st=cable+router&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=107762421503411:19
flasherchuckyp: my comp is ubuntu, and the other person's is windows. any router that works with win also works with linux, yes?11:19
dijungalhow do i get thunderbird to minimze  to the system tray (prolly not called that in ubuntu)11:19
dijungal?11:19
NeoThermicPSUSI: I hope not. :\11:20
NeoThermichow can I check/tell? :P11:20
francesco8-well, I killed amsn but it doesn't open anymore until I restart the system, what can I do?11:20
BlackTigeri don't know what it is but looks like a good site.... to get some info11:20
chuckypflasher, yeah like I said you don't really need the cd that comes with it.  Most can be configured through an internet browser.  And they will work regardless of the operating system11:20
BlackTigeris it a radio station???11:20
flasherchuckyp: can we use a wireless router for wired pcs?11:20
flasherPCs?11:20
flasherexample http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10080256&catid=2111511:20
chuckypflasher, if it has wired ports11:21
flasheri see11:21
PSUSINeoThermic: not sure...11:21
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francesco8-can anybody help me?11:21
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chuckypflasher, yes that one would work because it has 4 wired ports11:22
chuckypflasher, Four 10/100M Auto-Negotiation LAN RJ-45 ports.11:22
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chuckyp!ask > francesco8-11:22
flasherOne 10/100M Auto-Negotiation WAN RJ-45 port <--- means Wireless?11:22
francesco8-see above, chuckyp11:23
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francesco8-"well, I killed amsn but it doesn't open anymore until I restart the system, what can I do?"11:23
chuckypflasher, no that is the WAN port that is where your current cable modem would plug in to.11:23
flasheroh.11:23
Sp4rKyhi11:23
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stephansI can't get ubuntu to recognize the proper 1920X rezolution of my monitor11:23
flasherso the cable in the wall plugs into the cable modem. and the cable modem plugs into router.11:23
francesco8-I want to open any killed program without restart the system..11:24
Sp4rKyplease i've command 50CD's 26th of August and i don't have receive them11:24
stephansHow can you force a resolution?11:24
chuckypfrancesco8-, try killall -9 amsn in terminal then try opening it.  Its possible you have a hung process11:24
chuckypflasher, yeap11:24
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chuckypflasher, then the pc plug in to the router.11:24
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stephansIs there anyone who knows how to force a resolution in ubuntu?11:25
francesco8-it doesn't work, chuckyp11:25
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chuckypfrancesco8-, what doesn't work?11:25
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PSUSIstephans: ctrl-alt-+/- should change resolutions on the fly11:25
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PSUSIstephans: otherwise edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:26
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chuckypstephans, you can dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions you want.11:26
francesco8-I've "killall -9 amsn" but when I try to open amsn it doesn't open11:26
Sp4rKyplease, what's the simpliest way if i want create a mirror of official main/universe repository ?11:26
chuckypfrancesco8-, okay ps aux | grep amsn   what is the output of that.11:26
Sp4rKyand what's the size of it ?11:26
flasherchuckyp: i've just remembered. i have a Dell 2350 wireless broadband router. i'm looking at the back right now, and there are 4 ports, named LAN 1, LAN 2, etc. this will work for wired internet sharing, yes?11:26
chuckypflasher, does it have a WAN port?11:27
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francesco8-chuckyp, it's a bit long..should I past here?11:27
francesco8-what value to you want to know?11:27
willwork4foohiya11:27
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chuckypfrancesco8-, did it return anything  "ps aux | grep amsn"11:28
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chuckypfrancesco8-, more than one line?11:28
francesco8-yes11:28
stephansok thakn you11:28
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flasherchuckyp: there's a port that is labeled "internet".11:30
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chuckypflasher, yes that will work then.11:30
Siph0nif i have a portable usb hard drive, can i put the ubuntu installer on it, and then have my computer boot from the usb hard drive? cause i dont have a cdrom drive in my laptop11:30
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diederik_nldhello everyone11:30
flasherchuckyp: perfect! thanks11:30
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flasherno need to buy a router11:31
chuckypexactly11:31
chuckypflasher, you should be able to use that.11:31
flasherchuckyp: so do we need to put the setup cd into the win computer?11:31
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francesco8-do you know how to do chuckyp?11:31
flasherif the computers are working fine in regards to internet?11:31
LoudMouthManevening all , apologies in advance for just crashing in with a question.11:32
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LoudMouthManpop quiz for the lazy cause I cant be bothered to dig out my documentation on this .. so sorry ! but in choosing a openpgpkey should I choose RSA or DSA ..11:32
chuckypflasher, well if you want to use the setup cd yes mostlikely you will need to put it int he windows computer and follow the directions.11:32
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chuckypfrancesco8-, how many lines did it return?11:33
flasherif the windows comp is able to use internet without a router, is it still necesarry to use the setup cd?11:33
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chuckypflasher, what is plugged in to the windows pc the cable modem?11:34
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flasherchuckyp: yes11:34
dmglouiscan someone help me? my ethernet card can't get a lease from my router11:35
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francesco8-chuckyp, 2011:35
chuckypflasher, yeah still follow the directions because the cable modem needs to be plugged in to the internet port ont eh router then the computers will plug into the router.  That way you could have up to four computers using the same cable modem connection.11:35
kmaynardi never had a problem dual booting when connected directly to a cable modem. the problem came when i tried to attach a new device to the modem. modems bind to the mac address of one NIC at a time11:35
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chuckypfrancesco8-, can you put the output on pastebin11:35
chuckyp!pastebin11:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:35
chuckypfrancesco8-, just copy and paste11:35
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flasherchuckyp: when you say follow directions, what do you mean? you mean the order of phsyicall connections? or do you mean that installing the SetUp cd on the windows computer is needed?11:36
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francesco8-here or with a past site?11:36
francesco8-ok pastebin11:36
lupine_85!pastebin11:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:36
francesco8-;)11:36
finalbetakmaynard , I did have that problem, I had to release my IP address before I booted in the other OS. (ISP telenet)11:36
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dmglouiscan someone tell me how to change the search address 255.255.255.255 for restaring networking to my router IP?11:37
chuckypflasher, the directions that came with the router.  If you don't have those check out what the install cd says.  If not you may have to call dell support.  They are very good at supporting their products11:37
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chuckypdmglouis, ifconfig is what you are looking for.  or network-manager11:37
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fatsheephas anyone got the nsplugin wrapper working well with 64-bit firefox?11:37
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dmglouischuckyp: i've tried ifconfig, and all that shows is that i dont have IP assigned to eth011:38
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chuckypdmglouis, what do you need to do specify the ip or do you get one automatically from the router via DHCP?11:38
dmglouisckuckyp: and network managers no help because with IP i cant even ping11:38
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dmglouischuckyp: dhcp, but that only happens if I restart the computer completely11:39
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dmglouischuckyp: if I restart just networking, I lose the IP address11:39
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flasherchuckyp: i have the instructions. it says before connecting stuff, install cd on windows comp11:39
chuckypdmglouis, ifdown eth0  then ifup eth0  should re dhcp11:39
flasherchuckyp: i'm curious, what if neither computer was windows?11:39
dmglouischuckyp: and even with the assigned IP address, i cant ping the router11:39
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kmaynardreset the modem, unplug and re=plug the router11:40
francesco8-pastebin is very slow..11:40
chuckypflasher, if neither pc was windows you would have to hope that the router has a internet configuration via browser.  You would hook it up according to the directions then browse to the routers ip address http://192.168.0.1  or 192.168.1.1  whatever that may be then set it up manually.11:40
flasheroh i see11:40
chuckypdmglouis, has this router ever worked?11:41
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chuckypdmglouis, and network card for that matter11:41
dmglouischuckyp: this reassigning thing is the problem because it looks for dhcp leases on IP address 255.255.255.255, whereas my router IP is 192.168.2.111:41
dmglouischuckyp: yea, the routers working right now, because im on a comp on the netwokr11:41
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chuckypdmglouis, but if you restart it works fine?11:41
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kmaynardwhen all else fails, hit it with a hammer11:42
dmglouischuckyp: yes, the network card has worked in the past11:42
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chuckypdmglouis, well then just restart11:42
dmglouischuckyp: if i restart, i only get an IP address11:42
chuckypkmaynard, lol11:42
francesco8-chuckyp, http://rafb.net/paste/results/FHqnEF66.html11:42
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francesco8-here it is11:42
chuckypdmglouis, what ip address do you get?  is it in the same range i.e. 192.186.2.100  ???11:42
dmglouischuckyp: it still cant ping the router11:42
dmglouischuckyp: yea, i get 192.168.2.13211:42
tfrJaki program do kamerek internetowych?11:43
chuckypfrancesco8-, okay sudo killall amsn11:43
tech_How do you registers your userame?  I have read the web page but it assumes I know what they mean.11:43
chuckypdmglouis, does internet work though?11:43
tech_...for xChat that is.11:43
dmglouischuckyp: no11:43
chuckypdmglouis, can you ping other pcs on the network?11:43
dmglouischuckyp: i cant even ping the router11:43
dmglouischuckyp: no11:44
tnnctrying to use ssh Xforwarding i can get to box then try to run command like firefox& but saids it cant open display any ideas11:44
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francesco8-"amsn: no process killed" rotfl11:44
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chuckyp!ssh > tnnc11:44
iturkmy friends i need to configure a joystick its a speed link USB and i have follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28538.html but i cannot see /dev/input/js0 and i have this in my dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/217770. I dont know how to tell it to load at boot. how can i do that ??11:44
chuckypfrancesco8-, wtf... killall -9 amsn11:44
francesco8-the same thing..11:45
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dmglouisdoes anyone know how to change the IP address being searched for dhcp leases?11:45
dmglouisbecause I think thats he problem11:45
chuckypfrancesco8-, okay well kill them by pid11:45
ZeNI need help installing ubuntu or xubuntu (or any goddamned distro at this point) on my Lime/White Tray Load iMac G311:45
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iturkalso i have compile the kernel by myself its not the default one from linux maybe i need to activate something can someone help ??11:46
chuckypfrancesco8-, kill 20931   kill 29943   kill 7231        kill 912711:46
iturki mean from ubuntu11:46
chuckypfrancesco8-, or reboot11:46
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chuckypdmglouis, thats just plain goofy because dhcp is working if you are getting a ip on that same range.11:47
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dmglouisi know11:47
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ragplease for start wifi on boot for ipw220011:47
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kmaynardprolly a gateway or DNS problem11:47
lucashello people11:47
francesco8-well I wouldn't prefer to reboot, but in any case..11:47
ragecho 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules?11:48
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ragis ok?11:48
lucassomebody here try install de new firefox 2.0 ?11:48
iamtheric!ion411:48
chuckypyeah it could be gateway or dns11:48
spdfZeN, any specific errors?11:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ion4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:48
chuckypdmglouis, what is the output of ifconfig eth011:48
fatsheeplucas: no I heard it's quite unstable11:48
ragecho 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?11:48
kmaynardlucas, i run FF 211:48
francesco8-thanks for your time chuckyp11:48
fatsheepany stability problems?11:48
chuckypfrancesco8-, well if you kill all those processes you should be okay11:48
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ZeNspdf, you see, I can't even get it to boot from the CD, despite the fact that its IS new world and I can enter OF11:49
dmglouisi cant pastebin, that comp doesn't have internet access11:49
lucaskmaynard, the final version?11:49
chuckypfrancesco8-, System > Administration > System Monitor      You could try killing them there.11:49
ragecho 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?11:49
kmaynardlucas, no, RC 311:49
iamtheric!ion311:49
chuckypfrancesco8-, the amsn processes that is.11:49
ubotuion3: keyboard-friendly window manager with tiled windows (devel). In component universe, is extra. Version 20060107-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1322 kB, installed size 3448 kB11:49
spdfZeN, you've downloaded the correct iso?11:49
lucaswhen i'm tryngr run the final version11:49
kmaynardlucas, it'ss be final when it's updated tho11:49
iamtherickmaynard, you a sub teacher?11:49
lucasi had any fault =/ "Segment fault" at ./run-mozilla.sh, in line 13111:49
kmaynardiamtheric, nope11:49
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ZeNyes, and verified the MD511:50
lucassomebody had same errors?11:50
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ZeNand burned it correctly (not a data disc, image on the CD)11:50
dmglouishere: i put the output of network restart on pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28009/11:50
kmaynardlucas, the the RC 3 tarball from mozilla.com, put it in /opt, unpack it, then run /opt/firefox/firefox11:50
ZeNand burned it at 24x, 16x and 4x11:50
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kmaynardoh, and get ownership of it so you can update it11:50
lucasnot overwrite de old files?11:50
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kmaynardlucasm i still have the official ubuntu build, but if they ever switch to iceweasel i'm removing that11:51
francesco8-there are no processes with amsn..11:51
lucasi'm try removing de old firefox11:51
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francesco8-It's very strange..11:51
lucasbut not have sucess =/11:51
iamtheric!dillo11:51
ubotudillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB11:51
ZeNIt's currently got OS9 on it, and I'm wondering if I should be able to mount the CD11:52
ZeNwhile in OS911:52
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kmaynardlucas, do what i said, then edit your menu links to point to the version in /opt/firefox11:52
ZeNit says that the disk is "unreadable by this computer"11:52
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francesco8-ciao angelo11:52
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ragecho 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?11:52
lucasin a synaptic when i'm tryng remove the firefox of the ubuntu... his try remove other packages11:52
lucas=/11:52
lucaslike ubuntu-desktop and others11:53
angelociao francesco8-11:53
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kmaynardlucas, then dont remove the old one11:53
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PulsatingPenguinubuntu-desktop is safe to remove AFAIK, as long as you put it back11:53
iturkmy friends i need to configure a joystick its a speed link USB and i have follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28538.html but i cannot see /dev/input/js0 and i have this in my dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/217770. I dont know how to tell it to load at boot. how can i do that ??11:54
PulsatingPenguinit's just a dependency list I think11:54
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PulsatingPenguin a list of packages rather11:54
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spdfZeN, Hmm.. so, assuming you've burned the ppc iso, it should be a matter of rebooting and holding down the c key..11:54
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lucaskmaynard: it does not have a mode to remove only firefox?11:54
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ZeNdone it11:54
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ZeNalso tried cmd + opt + shift11:54
ZeNcmd + opt + c11:54
ZeNetc, etc11:55
EnselicHow can I get firefox to play sound of streaming media *wihtout* having to have the windowed focused that is streaming the audio11:55
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lucasyes, had some dependency packages, when i need remove only firefox, not other packages =/11:55
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ZeNI can however enter Open Firmware via cmd + opt + o +f and I can reset my PRAM with cmd + opt + p + r11:56
cbx33lucas, ignore my problems from before....and sorry to bother you I have fixed it all now...was my fault ;)11:56
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alekzcan someone recommend me a nice image compressor ?11:56
spdfZeN, Hmm.. Do you have an OS9 cd hanging around?11:56
ZeNno, but I do have an OSX CD11:57
ZeNand I can boot from it11:57
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ZeNby the way, when I try holding C (or any of the boot from CD key sequences) it hangs for a few seconds extra, as if it is trying to boot from the CD but doesn't know what to do with the data on the CD.11:57
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hikenboothello all as root I can run direct rendering: yes as a normal user booting thru gdm I cant get direct rendering working...it does not appear to be a rights issue...any ideas? Its on ubuntu with the ubuntu nvidia-glx drivers and nvidia-glx-de11:58
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toggethis is a long shot, but does anyone know how to stream video from dvb-t to i.e an xbox ?12:00

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