ianmacgregorjojoman02: Try some of these: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22zenity+tutorial%22&btnG=Google+Search12:00
rcarrQuash: then cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /media/floppy12:01
ianmacgregorjojoman02: Never mind, those aren't very helpful either <sigh>12:01
wweaselmarcrosoft: alright. Well, there seems to be an error with it somehow. Try reinstalling it.12:01
skavengeis there an avenue to take to speak to canonical about how the ubuntu channels are being run, being that they have the overall say in the matter? apparently ubuntuforums is not the right avenue as they want nothing to do with the irc aspect, but the abuse is obvious as the sky is blue12:01
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Quashrcarr: what are floppies?12:02
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Quashrcarr: just joking.12:02
jojoman02ianmacgregor: yeah i just noticed, i'll look round12:02
crimsunskavenge: to what are you referring?12:02
marcrosoftwweasel, the first error message that i posted is that is happening when i try to reinstall lftp12:02
variantskavenge: what abuse?12:02
fabio_a question, how can i set permission on shared directory? i view it with network browser of ubuntu...where it mount those directory?12:02
rcarrQuash: Haha, I was going to say...hmmm12:02
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crimsunskavenge: we do have governance: see the Community Council, for instance.12:02
skavengeim not going to get into it im just looking for an email address or link12:02
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Quashrcarr: looking back at your messages.  Yes, this is a problem booting off the Live CD 386 and the DVD.12:03
kitcheskavenge: umm maybe canonical website has one12:03
wweaselmarcrosoft: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall lftp" tell me what it does12:03
ianmacgregorjojoman02: It might be helpful to look through these scripts to see if you can find anything about it: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-archiving.php12:03
crimsunskavenge: if it's a community issue, please add your item(s) to the next Community Council meeting agenda, and show up for the meeting.12:03
ianmacgregorjojoman02: Those are script dealing with archiving.12:03
rcarrQuash: Ok, well it sounds like a Xorg problem, so checking the logs and stuff seems best12:03
jojoman02ianmacgregor: gracias12:03
rcarrQuash: Also: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:03
ferrouswheelHi all. I've got a an ubuntu server running samba. my ubuntu desktop usually is fine connecting but during intensive access the smbio daemon goes to 100% cpu usage and the samba mount  point can longer be stat'ed12:03
rcarrQuash: And select the right options for your video card and monitor and stuff12:03
crimsunskavenge: be sure that all parties involved are aware and will be present at said meeting12:03
rcarrQuash: then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"12:04
rcarrQuash: Then control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM12:04
marcrosoftwweasel, dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 3232 package `lftp':12:04
marcrosoft missing version12:04
marcrosoftE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)12:04
rcarrQuash: Maybe try that before the log stuff, because that could very well fix it12:04
fabio_anyone can help me?12:04
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Noob1hum i hae a question12:05
junkyif im going to system -> prefs-> sound, any idea why the default card isnt the right one?12:05
Noob1dose the server vresion have a gui12:05
junkyim i play anything, this is on my other card.12:05
rcarrNoob1: No, you can install one though12:05
Quashrcarr: just copying all this down.  Very helpful and appreciated!12:05
rcarrQuash: No problem, good luck12:05
wweaselmarcrosoft: ok, same thing. I am not an expert in this, so I am trying to look it up12:05
ferrouswheelFunnily, I can still access the samba share through nautilus/konqueror, just not through the mount point - so the server seems fine. the smbiod process must just have some kind of bug12:05
Quashrcarr: So, try this before the log stuff??12:05
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Quashsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:06
skavengecrimsun: my point being i want to speak to someone in charge vs an op thats going to give me lip service on the issue, the ops must have to answer to someone or is it free reign on irc? if so ubuntu's idea of community is quite misguided12:06
Quashsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:06
QuashThen control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM12:06
wweaselmarcrosoft, I found this: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/faq.en.html#comp-general.dpkg-parse-error12:06
rcarrQuash: Yeah12:06
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Quashrcarr: great.  quick question...12:06
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Noob1rcarr: were can i get a gui or is there a way just to put ir on ubuntu12:06
crimsunskavenge: the "some [people]  in charge" are known as the Community Council.12:06
variantskavenge: its users helping users, not a corporation (the irc i mean)12:06
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Quashrcarr: I still start the above with alt + ctrl + F6 or F1?12:07
rcarrNoob1: From the server edition, you could run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to get gnome and a bunch of GUI config programs12:07
snikkeranyones has experience with vmware?12:07
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rcarrQuash: Either one12:07
rcarrQuash: Or anything inbetween for that matter12:07
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fabio_snikker me12:07
variantskavenge: so go to ubuntu.com, get the contact email and stop trolling here12:07
Quashrcarr: :) k.  So, when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the black screen...12:07
rcarreQuash: No, after hitting control+alt+FSomething12:08
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rcarrQuash: And at the prompt12:08
skavengevariant: you and i dont have powers some others in the channel have that may abuse them for their own amusement, im not trolling12:08
Quashrcarr: will this go stick with the CD or could it reconfigure my installed Breezy?12:08
marcrosoftwweasel, ok, going to try that12:08
rcarrQuash: It will stick with the CD12:08
rcarrQuash: If it still doesn't work, try the Alternate Install CD12:08
variantskavenge: here you go: http://www.canonical.com/contact12:08
rcarrQuash: It has an installer like breezys, the console based one12:08
ubotuA list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - UBuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat12:08
rcarrQuash: And pretty much always works12:08
junkywhy i cant root@troy:/home/junky# rmmod snd_atiixp12:08
junkyERROR: Module snd_atiixp is in use12:08
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junkythis is not busy, i mean, theres no apps which are requesting sound atm12:09
ErwinAny magic option to make metacity desktop switching performance better on this nvidia 4200 card? switching to/from evolution, opera etc. seems a bit sluggish as the windows is redrawn.12:09
Quashrcarr: I tried the Altnerate CD and the text was working, but I didn't want to wipe my HD and then find, at the end, I end up with the same black screen at GDM Login with no Breezy to boot back in to.12:09
marcrosoftwweasel, that messed it up worse12:09
variantjunky: killall esd/artsd etc12:09
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marcrosoftwweasel, getting Segmentation fault (core dumped) ... now for anything to do with apt12:09
b03ntohow do i get rid off hibernate button in gnome poweroff menu ?12:09
rcarrQuash: You can partition stuff in the alternate install Cd the same as in the live CD12:10
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wweaselmarcrosoft: Crap. I didn't want to suggest that straight off because it was slightly different from your error message. Did you make a backup of your original file before overwriting it?12:10
rcarrQuash: I think the menu item is "Manually Edit Partition Tables", it's a bit more cumbersome because you have to manually enter sizes and stuff, but not so bad12:10
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temptedwoop... i still love dapper :)12:10
Quashrcarr: yes, I've burned myself with partitioning a couple of times before so am a bit gunshy.12:11
marcrosoftwweasel, normally i do.. but i didn't think it would mess it up that badly12:11
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Quashrcarr: off to try this at black screen...12:11
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Quashrcarr: alt + ctrl + F612:11
Quashsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:11
junkyvariant: thx, ive been able to unload my mod, but even if i selected my other snd card in system->prefs->sound, im getting errors12:11
Quashsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:11
QuashThen control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM12:11
ianmacgregorQuash: Yes, that will reconfigure X and restart it12:11
wweaselmarcrosoft: erg..I don't know what to tell you and I wish I could help, but that's uncharted territory for me.12:12
Quashrcarr: If nothing comes up when I do Ctrl + Alt + F6 at black screen, what should I do?12:12
godmachine81you having xorg update problems from dapper to edgy12:12
godmachine81or something?12:12
marcrosoftwweasel, well thanks anyways..12:12
raghow to emulate old games12:12
rcarrQuash: If nothing comes up when you press ctrl+alt+f6 then it's a pretty serious crash, stick with the alternate CD if that happens12:12
ragwith DOSEMU?12:12
Quashrcarr: it's reconfiguring X from the CD and re-starting the CD without touching my installed Breezy?  okay.12:13
ianmacgregorQuash: You can CTRL+ALT+F6 now and see what it looks like and then CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back here. it just takes you to tty6 and back, doesn't hurt anything12:13
rcarrQuash: Yeah, won't touch breezy12:13
ragplease if somebody know links for games, old games and good games, please say me!!!12:13
rcarrQuash: It doesn't restart the CD though, it just restarts the GUI12:13
ragmy customer need it a lot,12:13
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rcarrQuash: But, you can upgrade to edgy, from within breezy, with no CD involved12:13
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rcarrQuash: That might be an option for you as well12:13
Quashrcarr: just tried F6 F7 now.  Thanks.12:13
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wweaselmarcrosoft: Hold up a sec, it seems like that shouldn't have changed anything. Fink (the software the link I sent you was about) is for Mac OS X. /sw/var etc. doesn't exist. so if you followed the "solution" it proposed, it shouldn't have changed anything on your computer12:14
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Tokenbadwhen I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known  :  Can anyone tell me what this means?12:14
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Tokenbadanyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...12:14
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ianmacgregorrag: This should keep you busy for a while: http://www.happypenguin.org/12:14
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Quashrcarr: Yes, that's what I actually want to do.  breezy > dapper > edgy within OS.  But, I wanted to make sure I had a workable CD first, in case something blew up, as I read that it often does. =12:14
ragianmacgregor, thanks ian!12:15
ianmacgregorrag: You're welcome :)12:15
fabio_a question, how can i set permission on shared directory? i view it with network browser of ubuntu...where it mount those directory?12:15
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Quashrcarr: I always like to be able to start from scratch from CD, if I have to.12:15
Seveasfabio_, that's not mounted12:15
sipherOk, I screwed up bad and need some help. Installed Ubuntu but it created 2 partitions instead of one each sized at 50 gigs.. which I didn't want (I wasn't paying attention).. so like a dumbass I deleted them from win and now Grub wont let me boot. Everyone told me to boot from the XP CD and do fixmbr but it wont let me boot from that one.. I can only boot from Ubuntu's CD. How do I fix it? :S12:15
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Sir_Brizzis it okay to dist-upgrade from Breezy to Edgy?12:15
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:15
rcarrQuash: Ah, ok well good luck12:16
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LjLsipher: boot from the ubuntu CD, do a reinstall (with the proper partition you want to end up with, this time), and you'll have grub again12:16
Quashianmacgregor: thanks for letting me know I could F6 F7 now.  Didn't realize it.12:16
fabio_seveas: and how can change permission? i need to set execution12:16
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ianmacgregorQuash: :)12:16
Seveasfabio_, you can't12:16
Quashrcarr: thanks for the helpful advice.  I'll try now.  Your thorough help has been very much appreciated.  :)12:16
Seveasand you can't execute things from network things you browse that way12:16
sipherLjL: Ok, I'll try it.. thanks12:17
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ragianmacgregor, and games packs for ubuntu?12:17
jribSir_Brizz: it is recommended that you do not skip releases.  You should go breezy > dapper > edgy12:17
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ragdo you know games packs for ubuntu?12:18
xipietotecI have a big problem...I'm updating from dapper to edgy....but it just stopped the upgrade due to dependancy errors.12:18
fabio_they are video...i need to execute it in my ubuntu...i can't every time copy it in this pc and then lunch it12:18
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ianmacgregorrag: I can only recommend going into Synaptic and diong a search for games.. since I don't install anyting that isn't in the repos12:18
Quashrcarr: thanks, rcarr.  I'm rebooting to try now.12:18
somewhereMy system is totally effed. How can I reinstall the whole thing using Synaptic or apt?12:18
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ianmacgregorrag: Actually, do a search for games in synaptic, there are tons of them there in the repos12:18
Quashrcarr: thanks very much. l8r.12:19
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ianmacgregorsomewhere: Might it be a better idea to see if someone here can help fix the problems you're having rather than re-install the OS?12:19
ragok yeah12:19
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ragwww.ubuntugames.org! is good12:19
ianmacgregorrag: Excellent, didn't know that one12:19
xipietotecseriously, If anyone can help, I'm stuck and cannot upgrade to edgy, as I came up with too many dependancy errors not even half-way through the install.12:19
junkyvariant: any idea why i cant root@troy:/home/junky# rmmod snd_ca010612:20
junkyERROR: Module snd_ca0106 is in use12:20
jribxipietotec: try pastebinning your errors, maybe someone can suggest soemthing12:20
xipietotecokay, hold on12:20
junkyno art or esd process are currently running12:20
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piglitik ga slapen12:21
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phireSo, When is the final of Edgy going to be released?12:23
variantphire: 26th12:24
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variantjunky: yeah, kill esd or whatever12:24
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variantjunky: you can use the fuser command to find whats holding it open.12:24
variantim off to bed now12:24
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variantnight all12:24
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junkyvariant: night and many thx for today12:24
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xipietotecokay, here's a small chunk of the errors I'm getting from trying to update to edgy: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/21600612:25
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snikkeranyones have experience with vmware?12:25
variantjunky: np12:25
phirevarient: damm, same day xtra 'upgrades' ADSL and the internet will crawl to a halt12:25
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xipietotecas far as I can tell it's a repetitive error that's causing it to not install.12:25
Seveasxipietotec, try this: dpkg --configure -a12:25
Seveasxipietotec, then apt-get -f install12:26
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Seveasthen apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:26
LjLsnikker: i've used the packaged player.12:26
Seveasthen apt-get dist-upgrade12:26
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ianmacgregorSeveas: What do each of those commands do?12:26
ianmacgregorI been meaning to ask this12:26
marcrosoftso every time i try to install something with apt.. I'm getting "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" it looks like I might need to reinstall apt... how can i do this?12:26
Tarkuswould anyone here recommend the x64 version over the x86 version of ubuntu?12:26
snikkerLjL: i've got a troubble with server version...12:27
Seveasianmacgregor, try to configure half installd packages, fix dependency errors, install ubuntu0desktop to be sure, do a dist-upgrade12:27
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xipietotectrying now Seveas thankyou =)12:27
LjLsnikker, i haven't used that one.12:27
ianmacgregorSeveas: Ahh, thank you12:27
vgeis there a way to start xubuntu install without graphic interface?12:27
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LjLvge: use the Alternate CD12:27
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mjrTarkus, if you don't mind the proprietary software that will be more difficult to run, sure12:27
vgeLjL: so there is no way with the other?12:28
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LjLvge: no, i don't think so.12:28
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Lam_how does kde handle hidden folders?  gnome does it by a dot prefix12:28
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xipietotecerr..... the dpkg --configure -a quit because of dependancy problemw12:28
LjLLam_: Linux in general uses the convention of hiding files that being with a dot.12:28
ianmacgregorLam_: the "." is a Linux thing, KDE does it too12:28
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snikkerLjL: ok12:29
Seveasxipietotec, then apt-get -f install12:29
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Lam_how come the folders in root are all hidden in kde?12:29
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Seveasxipietotec, and paste the output at paste.ubuntu-nl.org please (pastebin.ca is almost unreadable, stupid black on blue)12:29
tjb891 is there a way to see the  pictures in peoples profiles in gaim?12:29
rcarrLam: They aren't hidden, konqueror isn't showing them because your user account doesn't have write access to them12:29
xipietotecwhat's the -f do?12:29
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LjLLam_: you're using Edgy, correct?12:30
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Lam_yes :)12:30
jribtjb891: what protocol?  wfm with aim users12:30
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Lam_is there a way to make konqueror show them then, but keep hidden folders hidden?12:30
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tjb891yeah, the aim proctocol12:30
rcarrLam: It's new in edgys version of konqueror, presumambly, I am not sure how to disable it12:30
sipherInstall isn't giving me the option of resizing current partitions and making new ones now.. all it gives me is "Erase entire disk.." :S12:30
Seveasxipietotec, fix12:30
xipietotecah, simple enough12:30
Lam_rcarr: ok thanks. i'll ask in +1 then12:30
rcarrLam: You can still get to them by typing out the path...I don't use konqueror for file browsing though, so no clue12:30
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jribtjb891: should just work, their buddy icon should show up in the corner of the message window12:30
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LjLLam_: then join #ubuntu+1. anyway, either Edgy or KDE 3.5.5 (not sure which one is responsible) has made most folders hidden by default in dialogs and file browsers. in dialogs, you can right click and choose to view all files - in konqueror i'm not sure12:31
wobblerduane, hello12:31
tjb891jrib:no i mean in there profile it dosen't display the pictures, only text12:31
SenesenceIs there any way to have the same "Background Transparency" effect option in Gedit or Vim like the one in Xterm?12:31
jribtjb891: oh, I didn't even know that was possible12:31
tjb891it is in the AOL version12:31
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SeveasLjL, kde12:32
_ionWhen i want to do a server installation with RAID+LVM, should i choose the alternate CD or the server CD? I'm assuming the alternate install CD, but i'd like to make sure.12:32
jribtjb891: maybe #gaim can help you out.  Be sure to ask tehre as well12:32
SeveasLjL, there's a .hidden_files in /12:32
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xipietotecthat seems to be working better12:32
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maxflaxattention ... support is needed12:33
LjLSeveas: hold on - you mean that a *KDE specific* feature puts a file in the root folder? (it's ".hidden" by the way, apparently) - if so, that doesn't sound good to me12:33
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SeveasLjL, yes I mean that12:33
LjLmaxflax: we are all ears12:33
Seveasand like many things in KDE: It sucks12:33
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ianmacgregorI knew there was a reason I didn't use it12:34
maxflaxLjL, it's about sound. Alsa drivers to be exact.12:34
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LjLSeveas: i won't bother disagreeing... but they definitely could put it somewhere in /etc or /usr/share or whatever12:34
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Lam_just a general question.  what's the best way to organize an extremely large music collection?12:34
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LjL(or the user's home, for that matter)12:34
LinuxGuy2006when I install Sun Java JRE, do I need to install Sun Java JDK for it to work?12:34
Seveasxipietotec, purge usplash-theme-kubuntu12:34
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SeveasLinuxGuy2006, no12:34
SenesenceIs there any way to enable transparency in Gedit or Vim? I want to have the same effect in one of those two apps as the "Transparency" on the terminal window.12:35
xipietotecSeveas: thankyou! but how would kwin and kdesktop survive?12:35
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Seveasxipietotec, because they don't depend on kdm12:35
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BlueN1njaI believe I've found a bug with F-Spot's 'web gallery' feature...12:35
SeveasSenesence, with compiz or berylyou can12:35
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LjLxipietotec, kwin and kdesktop in no way depend on KDM... they do depend on the KDE libraries though. you might want to remove kdelibs4, if you want all KDE programs to go away12:35
SenesenceSeveas: No default options for that?12:35
SeveasSenesence, no12:35
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maxflaxLjL, I wonder how one installs the newer version of alsa-base. the one in apt is 1.0.11 and the newest stable is 1.0.13.. and I wonder if I install the newer ones.. are they compatible with ubuntu and how do I do it...12:36
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xipietotecno, not all kde programs, I like quite a few of them, I was just concerned that it was still trying to boot kde every time I loaded up, and would cause ...heh...dependency issues12:36
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BlueN1njaIs there anyone here that's working on F-Spot for Edgy?12:37
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ianmacgregorBlueN1nja: You might also ask in #ubuntu+q12:37
LjLmaxflax, you'd probably need to recompile your kernel and use other black magic to achieve that. if the current drivers work, i'd advice leaving them as they are. if they don't, then there's still not much i'd be able to tell you, except for giving you a couple of pointers about kernel recompiling12:37
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BlueN1njaianmacgregor: will do. Thanks.12:37
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erik__Hey- Question about flash 9 beta on edgy- I have tried a couple of tutorials, But both crash when I test it with youtube. Firefox just closes... It's a fresh edgy install.. Known issue? (P3 1.2Ghz IBM T23 btw)12:38
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LjLxipietotec, if you choose a Gnome session from your login manager (whether it's KDM or GDM), you'll boot Gnome. that the usplash still says "Kubuntu" doesn't really mean anything -- though you can change that if you want12:38
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ianmacgregorerik__: You might also ask in #ubuntu+112:39
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maxflaxLjL, so I must recompile the linux-kernel.. why is that.. isn't it the alsa-base drivers that need recompilation?12:39
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xipietotecLjL, cool I'll make it go away after I upgrade =) (I wasn't very fond of kde's window management setup...but many of the programs are good)12:39
BlueN1njaianmacgregor: #ubuntu+q isn't a channel12:39
BlueN1nja(sorry if I'm missing something)12:40
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ianmacgregorBlueN1nja: Yeah, typo, sorry, it's #ubuntu+112:40
LjLmaxflax, the alsa-base package doesn't contain kernel modules as far as i can see, but still i wouldn't upgrade a part of ALSA without upgrading all of it, i think12:40
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BlueN1njaianmacgregor: thanks12:40
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junkyroot@troy:/home/junky# play 03.wav12:40
junkyALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'12:40
LjLxipietotec: what do you mean by window management setup?12:40
erik__ianmacgregor: I will. Thanks!12:40
junkyhow can i use card 1 instead of card 0 ?12:40
crimsunmaxflax: alsa-base contains only the infrastructure for using alsa-driver.12:40
maxflaxLjL, so a part of the alsa is implented to the linux kernel?12:40
crimsunjunky: asoundconf list12:41
junkyroot@troy:/home/junky# asoundconf list12:41
junkyNames of available sound cards:12:41
crimsunmaxflax: Linux 2.6 includes ALSA (properly known upstream as alsa-kernel)12:41
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crimsunjunky: asoundconf set-default-card CA010612:41
junkythat the exact card i wanna use.12:41
xipietotecLjL: KDE looks like windows =P12:41
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LjLmaxflax: the low level drivers are12:41
crimsunmaxflax: there's also an external tree known as alsa-driver12:41
maxflaxcrimsun, ok! so compiling the 1.0.13 won't help me much then12:41
b03ntoIs there any way to make gnome use suspend2 instead of whatever it uses now (when I select "Hibernate this computer" in the logout menu)?12:42
xipietotecand I didn't like the way it sorted through things and such.12:42
crimsunmaxflax: depends what your sound issue(s) is(are)12:42
XVampireXAnyone using liferea?12:42
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ianmacgregorXVampireX: I am12:42
agentwhat is the binary file /pup001? google says its from puppylinux distro, but what is it doing in ubuntu?12:42
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crimsunmaxflax: in-Linux ALSA lags external alsa-driver; the latter is synced to the kernel only every so often12:42
XVampireXiamtheobject, how do I add blogspot feeds to it?12:42
junkycrimsun: thx, thats the exact stuff i was trying to do!!!!12:42
XVampireXiamtheobject, for example this one: http://freegamer.blogspot.com/12:42
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iamtheobjectwhy me12:43
maxflaxcrimsun, well.. my problem are that alsa don't detect my digital soundcard.. only the analog part.. and I want to be able to use the spdif12:43
XVampireXiamtheobject, nevermind :P12:43
XVampireXiamtheobject, thanks anyways :P12:43
ianmacgregorXVampireX: Feeds -> New Subscription ?12:43
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crimsunmaxflax: cat /proc/asound/devices12:43
iamtheobjectI don't even know whats goin on man12:43
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ianmacgregoriamtheobject: tab completion bit him, lol12:43
iamtheobjectah ahahaha12:43
iamtheobjectits okay dude12:43
iamtheobjectI do it too sometimes12:44
XVampireXYeah, xchat is not particularly cool about tab completion I see12:44
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LinuxGuy2006what is the Java JDK for?12:44
jribLinuxGuy2006: developing java apps12:44
LinuxGuy2006oh, ewww12:44
maxflaxcrimsun, that only shows 1 playback device..   4: [ 0- 0] : digital audio playback12:44
ianmacgregorLinuxGuy2006: lol12:44
LinuxGuy2006java sucks12:45
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crimsunmaxflax: which driver are you using?12:45
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maxflaxcrimsun, alsa-base 1.0.1112:45
plmokiuhh who said java sucks?12:45
crimsunmaxflax: no, which sound driver?12:45
maxflaxcrimsun, the one in edgy12:45
crimsunmaxflax: cat /proc/asound/modules12:45
LinuxGuy2006I will use as little JRE as nessicary to run FrostWire12:45
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LinuxGuy2006no JDK or Source12:45
maxflaxcrimsun,  0 snd_hda_intel12:46
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junkyive to go, problems solved, many thanks again crimsun, ya solved something i was working for like 6 hours!12:46
LinuxGuy2006I like the java-free design of GTK-Gnutella, but its not intuitive12:46
crimsunmaxflax: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat12:46
xipietotecI know you can retheme kde LjL but the default looks like windows...and I didn't see it do anything particularly better than gnome12:46
plmokii dono man, i really like java12:47
maxflaxcrimsun, 0: Realtek ALC88012:47
crimsunmaxflax: then yes, you need to compile alsa-driver-1.0.13. I've already fixed the spdif issue upstream. A newer post-release Edgy kernel will have them.12:47
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LjLxipietotec: maybe, and since i'm a kde user i'm probably biased - but i just don't understand it when people people run Gnome and then mainly use KDE programs, or vice versa for that matter.  if it's just a matter of looks, you can (easily) change the looks.12:47
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LjLxipietotec: if you'd replied "because KDE misses such and such features", i'd have kept quiet, but if it's just "because KDE looks like windows", come on, that's quite a weak justification =)12:48
Lam_does linux have a means to detect an imminent hard drive failure before it fails?12:48
LinuxGuy2006and does anyone else get errors when installing totem-gstreamer-firefox plugin12:48
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maxflaxcrimsun, Im new to linux.. so what u are saying is.. there is already a kernel compiled for the issue. and 1.0.13 is compatible with it?12:48
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LjLLam_: sudo apt-get install smartmontools12:48
Lam_LjL: thanks12:48
curt_evening folks12:49
LinuxGuy2006LjL: I use GNOME so :-P12:49
curt_anyone here familiar with xgl?12:49
LjL!xgl > curt_12:49
iamthericenlightenment is a great wm12:49
curt_har har12:49
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jbmigelemacs does window manager kinda12:50
maxflaxcrimsun, and that I have to compile the 1.0.13 from source and do a make install?12:50
xipietotecLjL: actually I mainly use common applications, but I didn't like the way kde navigates through folders and such, plus it seemed to run slower, but I do use some of the programs. =)12:50
LinuxGuy2006and does anyone else get errors when installing totem-gstreamer-firefox plugin12:50
ianmacgregoremacs is a nice OS, hopefully someone will write a decent editor for it o.O12:50
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RogerBacontry easyubuntu12:50
crimsunmaxflax: alsa-driver-1.0.13 only, yes.12:50
jbmigelLinuxGuy2006 i think everyone uses the mplayer plugin. why dont you?12:51
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jbmigelheh ianmacgregor12:51
LinuxGuy2006mplayer, isnt that the one that runs in text-mode12:51
eck0hey i got everything working finally, but now i cant use my mic12:51
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plmokiit can12:52
marcrosoftcan you change where ubuntu gets its files... apt is downloading very slow12:52
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spdfmarcrosoft, Yep12:52
eck0ghow do i fix that?12:52
jbmigelLinuxGuy2006 er you can control it from command line if you need, but it's firefox plugin workws fine for me12:52
maxflaxcrimsun, ok.. that is fairly easy. do I compile all the other packages too.. like alsa-utils and such? And do I leave the old alsa-base or do I uninstall those first before make install the 1.0.13?12:53
marcrosoftspdf, do you have to change each one in the source file... ?? and is there a list of fast ones?12:53
LjLianmacgregor: http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/RZ/software/emacs/evi/evi_1.html12:53
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spdfmarcrosoft, I haven't found a list online. The one I'm using is in the 400-500kb/s range.. I'll pastebin it for you12:53
marcrosoftspdf, cool thanks12:53
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eck0anyone know how come my mic wont work on linux but fine on windoze12:54
javierssi need mount my partition of windows but i see this message12:54
spdfmarcrosoft, http://pastebin.ca/21605712:54
jbmigelhaha LjL that link looks like a howto install trojan horse12:54
DarthVinemanCan anyone help me with gstreamer?12:54
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DarthVinemanIm having problems updating it12:55
crimsunmaxflax: leave it. Only compile alsa-driver.12:55
ubuntuhow can i do a ftp server between a ubuntu and a xp windows system12:55
marcrosoftspdf, cool thank you12:55
eck0so no1 knows why my mic wont work on linux but its fine on windows12:55
javierssi have problems whit my partition of windoze ,12:55
DarthVinemanroot@HAL:~# sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:55
DarthVinemanReading package lists... Done12:55
DarthVinemanBuilding dependency tree... Done12:55
DarthVinemanE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:55
eck0hey thats my word lol12:55
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DarthVinemanAnyone know what I should do?12:55
DarthVinemanWhats the correct thing so it will find the package?12:56
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LjL!info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp312:56
ubotugstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3: Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2.debian-1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 196 kB12:56
iamthericDarthVineman, apt-get unstall gstreamer12:56
LjLDarthVineman: you probably need to enable Universe.12:56
iamthericDarthVineman, apt-get install gstreamer12:56
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ink251ubuntu: apt-get install vsftpd12:56
DarthVinemanUniverse is enabled12:57
ink251ubuntu: then use internet explorer as your windows ftp client12:57
LjLDarthVineman: then run "sudo apt-get update" and try again.12:57
maxflaxcrimsun, ok! alsa driver is the same as the alsa-base right? ..  I think there is a guide for compiling and installing alsa on their wiki.. is that a good one to follow?12:57
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maxflaxcrimsun, http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick+Install12:58
crimsunmaxflax: alsa-driver is the name of the source package. alsa-base is one of several binary packages generated from the alsa-driver source package.12:58
junkycrimsun: if my mute (vol+/-) on my keyboard doesnt work, any idea, what could be the problem?12:58
plamoniI am having an issue with gnome... I just did a fresh install of the Edgy beta (not the RC), I did an apt-get upgrade and now gnome seems to be broken... it takes forever to start up gnome, then when it finally starts, I get a message about the gnome-settings-daemon not responding12:58
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crimsunjunky: with your CA0106?12:58
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crimsunjunky: hotkey-setup issue. It only works by default for certain sound chipsets. The ca0106 driver doesn't support it by default.12:58
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Quashrcarr: still there?  Just tried it and I'm back.12:59
maxflaxcrimsun, now I got confused! So how do I compile the alsa-driver.. is that the same as alsa-base?12:59
randomguyhow can I burn an iso image?12:59
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LjL!burn > randomguy01:00
spdfrandomguy, gnomebaker or k3b will work01:00
CaedmonAny clue where I can download the linux-headers and build-essential packages for kubuntu 6.06 LTS?01:00
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randomguyI want to mount an iso, sorry01:00
LjLCaedmon: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"01:00
LjL!mountiso > randomguy01:00
junkyso i should recompile it, with that option enabled, right?01:00
randomguy(cdrecord fails to burn in sao mode)01:00
CaedmonMy bad01:00
CaedmonWithout using Apt.01:00
crimsunmaxflax: no, you grab alsa-driver from ftp.alsa-project.org and compile it.01:00
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jribCaedmon: packages.ubuntu.com01:01
CaedmonBecause I have no net connection on my linux install01:01
spdfrandomguy, mount /path/to/iso /path/to/empty/folder -o loop01:01
eltechis ther an easy way to create a *.rar archive in gui?01:01
randomguyspdf, I have to modprobe loop right?01:01
jribCaedmon: I know build-essential should be on the cd though01:01
LjL!rar > eltech01:01
Quashanyone, I can't get in to the desktop when I boot the 6.10 RC CD/DVD?  can anyone help?01:01
spdfrandomguy, atleast I think its that01:01
jribCaedmon: the headers might be too01:01
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maxflaxcrimsun, ok.. and follow the instructions in the INSTALL should be enough right?01:01
capt-rogerswhen your watching TV, and it is recording..it says it only records for 30 minutes...is that true, and why does mythtv do that?01:01
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QuashI get an black screen after the boot splash, in the final moment when it goes in to the desktop.01:02
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LjLCaedmon: if they're not on the CD and you've got no network, then you'll need to go to packages.ubuntu.com and download from there. however, you need to take care of the dependencies manually (i.e. for every dependency listed, download it, and do the same for every dependency's dependencies, etc)01:02
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spdfcapt-rogers, Ask in #mythtv-users01:02
xipietotecheh....I wish the upgrade command had an indicator of just how many more programs were left to upgrade01:02
lonranwhere are the downloaded packets with apt-get stored?01:03
crimsunmaxflax: essentially.01:03
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spdflonran, /var/cache/apt01:03
LjLlonran: /var/cache/apt/archives01:03
randomguyhow can I apt-cdrom from a mounted iso?01:03
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iamthericDarthVineman, no need for version01:03
Quashcan anyone help me with a install/boot graphics issue on the 6.10 RC cd?01:03
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iamthericlonran, hey01:04
LjLrandomguy: "apt-cdrom -d=/mount/point/for/the/iso add" i would think01:04
iamthericQuash, what display manager?01:04
maxflaxcrimsun, ok.. will try this.. and Im hoping for the best... btw.. what caused the error of the spdif?01:04
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LjLrandomguy: "apt-cdrom -m -d=/mount/point/for/the/iso add" possibly, to avoid having it try to mount it by itself01:04
Quashiamtheric: I'm booting from the install CD.  default option, safe graphics option and using variou F4 VGA options.  The Ubuntu CD and DVD.01:05
iamthericQuash, oh do you need a framebuffer?01:05
WebsteriumI'm having some difficulty getting machines using DHCP to accept the default domain I've set up in my dhcp3 server01:05
eltechactually .. that doesnt explain creating a .rar file01:05
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:05
WebsteriumIs it possible to send a default domain to search as part of a DHCP response? Or is this something that needs to be set up on each client01:05
lonrani have installed automatix for dapper and i have now edgy, how can i remove it using apt?01:06
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ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!01:06
iamthericlonran, apt-get remove automatix01:06
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Quashiamtheric: not even sure what I framebuffer is or how to use it.  Basically, the boot splash seems to chug along nicely, the the screen goes to its normal momentary black with blinking cursor before going in to the desktop.  Instead, my screen just goes black.01:06
peepsanyone here use skype?01:06
Willhow do i get to SWAT?01:07
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iamthericQuash, maybe your monitor isnt supported by x01:09
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JonBoonhmm, is there a special package i should install for audio on sites like youtube?01:09
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jbmigeliamtheric do you know of nice howto for framebuffer/01:10
tsolerhi to all01:10
Quashiamtheric: First time in years I've ever had an issue with getting in to a LiveCD.  Anything I could do to get in through a different boot parameter to a standard monitor and then reconfigure, once in?  Would that be a solution?01:10
iamthericjbmigel, no01:10
jbmigelhows it going d00d?01:10
tsolerjust a very essential question01:11
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tsolerhow can i reduce the clicks??01:11
iamthericQuash, no idea01:11
Willhow can i install the windows driver into samba so that when i want to connect it on a windows host it doesnt require a driver?01:11
Quashiamtheric: fair enough.01:11
GhostFreemanWhenever I use Azureus, it dosen't show up in the system tray like it used to do in previous releases. Anyone know why?01:12
Will(this is for a printer)01:12
jbmigeltsoler maybe you could only type with your left hand?01:12
iamthericGhostFreeman, check azureus setting01:12
GhostFreemanwhich one?01:12
spdfGhostFreeman, It shows up in mine. Likely a config thing..01:12
tsoleris there a way to make lesser clicks?01:12
GhostFreemanyour version
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tsolerin onether terms how can i have automatic rollover menus?01:13
jbmigeltsoler i dont understand. less clicks... do you mean your speakers are clicking all the time?01:13
spdfGhostFreeman, There is a config setting in Azurues to enable/disable the tray icon01:13
GhostFreemanand I have the system tray icon on, but its not there01:13
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spdfGhostFreeman, Its enabled in Azurues's config?01:13
tsolerno i mean that it would be nicer for menus to rollover after i pass over01:13
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:14
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lucaferrHow do I get auto mount support for NIS based auto.master and auto.home?01:14
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tsolerafter two days of continusly working on ubuntu ive noticed : toooo many clicks01:14
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GhostFreemanspdf: yes01:15
Flanneltsoler: that's why command lines are still popular01:15
tsolerdoesnt anyone else have noticed?01:15
Spaceraverlinuxcan someone point me to the install log of dpkg and apt?? i need to pastebin those in order to solve a problem01:15
tsolercommand lines are a fast otion01:15
iamthericGhostFreeman, what window manager?01:15
jbmigeltsoler im still not sure... like you have to click your mouse... and your sad?01:15
iamtherictsoler, use a different wm01:15
FlannelSpaceraverlinux: /var/log/ then theres dpkg ones in there01:15
iamtherictsoler, make your own menus01:16
bimberiSpaceraverlinux: /var/log/dpkg.log (apt doesn't log)01:16
Spaceraverlinuxthx... brb Flannel01:16
bruenigwm = window manager01:16
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spdfGhostFreeman, Which java runtime?01:16
tsolertwo days spenting on ubuntu : all good one thin g to say :too many clicks01:16
vryohas anyone tried running Company of Heroes on Wine?01:17
bruenigI want to use thunar but I can't figure out how to integrate it in the system well enough so that things will open with it instead of nautilus01:17
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GhostFreemanV 1.5.0_06-b0501:17
b03ntoIs there any way to make gnome use suspend2 instead of whatever it uses now (when I select "Hibernate this computer" in the logout menu)?01:17
Tarkusis it possible to install ubuntu using a usb drive? instad of booting from a cd?01:17
tsolerwhere is wm bruenig?01:17
Flannel!tell Tarkus about install01:17
racterso is there a difference between the server install on the xubuntu disc vs. the ubuntu disc?01:17
FlannelTarkus: believe there's instructions on how to do that there01:18
Flannelracter: absolutely nothing01:18
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racterflannel: thx01:18
iamtherictsoler, enlightenment fluxbox blackbox xfce are all good wms01:18
bruenigtsoler, I don't understand iamtheric's point, I was just defining wm, you will have to ask him what he was getting at01:18
bruenigthose won't reduce clicks though01:18
GhostFreemanspdf: did you get my  Java version01:18
iamthericbruenig, menus are setup different01:18
Spaceraverlinuxhm... the dpkg log does not state the problem i have... it's apt-get... :/01:19
bruenigiametheric, maybe. I only have used xfce out of that list and it wasn't too much better for amount of clicks.01:19
spdfGhostFreeman, Sun right?01:19
b03ntoanybody using suspend2 ?01:20
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ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:20
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Ruffleshello there!01:20
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Rufflesis it ok to remove the contents in /tmp/ ?01:21
Spaceraverlinuxshould i just paste the command window??01:21
agentSpaceraverlinux: if it's one line, paste in here... if its multiple lines in pastebin01:21
agentdoes anyone know what exact command finds out when is the appropriate time to do a fsck on boot?01:22
spdfGhostFreeman, Looks like its a known bug01:22
Spaceraverlinuxill put it in the pastebin anyhow01:22
tsoleriamtheric, do u know a wms with this function??01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
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Rufflesis it ok to remove the contents in /tmp/ ? does anyone know?01:23
GhostFreemanit is?01:23
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GhostFreemanYou have a link to the entry?01:23
spdfGhostFreeman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/4226901:23
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spdfGhostFreeman, There's a workaround on there..01:23
gnuyenHi guys01:23
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GhostFreemanI'll give it a shot01:23
GhostFreemanThanks again!01:23
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:23
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cafuegoRuffles: Not generally, no.01:23
gnuyeni'm reading the help.ubuntu.com information on installing a amd64 java plugin01:23
gnuyenand i'm not quite sure what it's saying01:23
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eltechso there isnt a way to create a tar file01:23
gnuyendo i have to run a 32bit browser or not?01:24
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brueniggnuyen, yes01:24
LjLeltech: uh?01:24
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irc1how do i get my mic to work?01:24
LjLeltech: tar --help | grep cf01:24
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riddleboxis there any reason that dapper would be locking up on my system after about 10 minutes?01:24
eck0is it possible to accesss my windows drive thru linux01:25
gnuyenbecause it says "I installed j2re-1.4.2 today with the firefox plugin from multiverse and Java worked in Firefox immediately without having to create manual links."01:25
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:25
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eltecherrm sorry i meant a rar file01:25
Spaceraverlinuxhere is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/ someone kick me in the right direction01:25
eltechcreating a rar file01:25
iamtherictsoler, what?01:25
eck0does anyone know how to access my windows stuff on my other HDD01:26
iamtherictsoler, if you use kde set it so that you can mouse over windows to raise them01:26
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, is it fat32??01:26
eck0or ntfs watever01:26
gnuyenis there anyway to install 32bit firefox01:26
tsoleri thin iam using gnome01:26
Spaceraverlinuxthat would be a big no no anyhow01:26
LjLeltech, you need to install the "rar" package rather than the "unrar" package01:26
gnuyenwith apt?01:26
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eck0you sure01:26
tsoleris it easy to make a transitition?01:27
eck0well can i burn my mp3's off windows, and put it on linux01:27
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Dr_williseck0,  you can mount the ntfs drives and access them .01:27
arnieboyHi where can I get a comprehensive list of country based ubuntu repository mirrors ?01:27
Dr_williseck0,  the default fstab entrys restrict the access to just the root user.. a edit of the fstab file changes that.01:27
tsolergnome to kde??01:28
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eck0how do i logon as root?01:28
Spaceraverlinuxyes... ntfs is a very closed file system, accessing them is possible, but write support is not good or lacking01:28
eck0just use su?01:28
LjL!root > eck001:28
Dr_williseck0,  example fstab line -------->   /dev/hda5 /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:28
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:28
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eck0so to open my windows drive is kinda a bad thing cuz then if people hack in they can move rite to my other drive?01:29
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Spaceraverlinuxeck0, use "sudo gedit etc/fstab01:30
eck0which does?01:30
Spaceraverlinuxgedit is like notepad01:30
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spdfeck0, If they wanted to. But, even without you mounting it they could find it easy enough01:30
Juhazif people hack in, your windows drive being mounted is the least of your worries01:30
eck0well unix is already a bitch to hack in01:31
eck0were windows its simpler01:31
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Spaceraverlinuxeck0,  ever edited *.bat or *.con files??01:31
Spaceraverlinuxdoes anyone have a clue why apt get dies with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/01:32
Spaceraverlinuxcant get my head around it01:32
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turano_ubuhey guys, my alacarte don't work (in Edgy Elft). it doesn't check/uncheck the menu entries.01:32
spdfHmm.. I can't read german or whatever that is..01:33
bruenigSpaceraverlinux, translate?01:33
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Spaceraverlinuxline 17 says critical error file list for python glade2 is missing01:34
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eck0nope im a noob to linux01:34
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YBH_1turano_ubu, are you running it as root mode? it should pronpt you for a password.01:34
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Spaceraverlinuxsome of is in english.. some danish... i wish they would have kept the command lines to english01:35
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eck0does anyone know why my mic works in wondows but not linux?01:35
spdfSpaceraverlinux, Using Dapper?01:35
turano_ubuYBH_1, I already do it01:35
eltechljl thanks.. that was it01:36
iamthericeck0, go figure01:36
YBH_1have you tried alsamiser use the arrow keys to find the mic and press m key to mute and unmute the mic then use sudo alstctl store01:36
vryodoes anyone have experience setting up a server?01:36
YBH_1alsamiser =alsamiser01:36
YBH_1alsamiser =alsamixer01:36
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, lol01:36
YBH_1it's 1 of those days01:36
eck0is it sumtin i did?01:37
Spaceraverlinuxyes... it's monday...01:37
XVampireXor just double click the icon in the panel01:37
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eck0like being stupid on sumtin01:37
vryoim having truble connecting to it01:37
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Spaceraverlinuxno sorry eck0... i was gonna say we are all noobs at linux... i am one too01:37
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Roger_The_Bumwill the edgy final release include firefox 2.0?01:37
bododohi folks :)01:38
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spdfSpaceraverlinux, Hmm, try apt-get update. and then try again01:38
FlannelRoger_The_Bum: the current edgy does, so yes01:38
SpaceraverlinuxRoger_The_Bum, have you traversed the forums??01:38
eck0so no1 knows why my mic wont work01:38
bododoplease give another reason to switch to ubuntu, the first being thier community :(01:38
Roger_The_Bumbododo: its ease of use01:38
eck0i like it01:38
Spaceraverlinuxspdf, i tried that... just gives allmost the same error01:38
eck0can i not use rpm files?01:38
melvini want to use xgl on my laptop is it easy to install????01:39
bododoRoger, I already use FC501:39
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Flannelmelvin: #ubuntu-xgl01:39
Flanneleck0: you can, but using debs is better (because no conversion issues and the dependencies that come with that)01:39
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, you can... afaik you need alien to import them into ubuntu...01:39
bododoand i'm deeplu decieved by thier cmmunity01:39
Roger_The_Bumbododo: large packet repository///?01:39
bododowell my internet connexion is very slow01:39
bododoand ubuntu ships with the bare minimum01:40
eck0well the only downloads for most files are in .rpm01:40
Roger_The_Bumalien might be it01:40
Spaceraverlinuxhmm... is there a way to force the samba version to install??01:40
bododothat's actually what keeps me from switching to ubuntu01:40
eck0is the porting?01:40
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Spaceraverlinuxbododo, what connection do you have??01:41
bododonot even able to download stuff01:41
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bododoi'm african by the way ;-)01:41
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Flannelbododo: The DVDs have more packages, you might look into debian, they have all their packages available on CDs, ubuntu plans to, but it hasn't happened yet01:41
bododoand by the way sorry for my poor english, it's my 4th language01:42
PeggerrrI cant figure out why saslauthd will not start up   http://pastebin.ca/21612001:42
Spaceraverlinuxbododo,  that aint much, but if you dont need much to download... just leave the system on over night01:42
iamthericbododo, thats about it01:42
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iamthericeck0, you can with alien01:42
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concept10anyone using beryl01:42
Roger_The_Bumubuntu hasn't been around for longer than 2 years01:42
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Flannelconcept10: #ubuntu+1 or #beryl01:42
SeveasRoger_The_Bum, 2.5 years actually01:42
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Spaceraverlinuxhello Seveas01:42
bododothanks folks, but i'm really scared of time it needs to complete01:42
concept10Flannel, just asked if anyone was using it01:42
eck0were do i get it? got a link?01:42
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Flannelconcept10: right, people there have a better chance of using it ;)01:43
eck0im gonna go nuts without my mic lol01:43
iamthericrpm is pretty convienient01:43
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Spaceraverlinuxeck0, use the command line01:43
eck0 ./program.rpm you mean?01:43
Roger_The_BumSpaceraverlinux: can't synaptic do the trick too?01:43
Spaceraverlinuxtype "sudo apt-get install alien"01:43
spdfSpaceraverlinux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24069901:43
bododoyour community is warm, that's what i firstly love above all01:43
Roger_The_BumI use it as a heat source01:44
eck0what is apt-get?01:44
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Spaceraverlinuxi can... i just prefer apt-get01:44
Roger_The_Bumeck0: it's a package manager01:44
eck0ok says its all good01:44
eck0and if ineed gcc its sudo apt-get install gcc01:44
Spaceraverlinuxthe command line version of synaptic... more powerful...01:44
Flannel!tell eck0 about alien01:44
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).01:44
bododoRoger, well i'm a webdevelopper, the problem is that ubuntu shiped cd is ... say aimed for users desktop01:44
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bododowithout the servers...01:45
Flannelbododo: grab the server CD01:45
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Roger_The_Bumbododo: isn't there a server install on there?01:45
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, exactly01:45
bododoFlannel, so, when I grab the server one can I install both?01:45
eck0ok ty01:45
Flanneleck0: build-essential is more complete, but gcc will get you gcc01:45
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tsolerhey guys what is the differences between kde and gnome?01:45
eck0ill get the build stuff01:45
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Willdoes anyone know of any sound drivers that will work with the CS4236 ?01:46
KyralYou'll need it01:46
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maxflaxcrimsun, are u there?01:46
Spaceraverlinuxspdf.. thanks01:46
Peggerrrook I figured out why it was not starting but I am still getting this error when I try to do tls with postfix      cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory01:46
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: diffefent window managers01:46
eck0damn you guys are good01:46
Peggerrrwhat file is it looking for ?//01:46
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bododoso, can i install both versions on the same OS?01:46
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: gnome comes with ubuntu01:46
molineroHi bododo01:46
Willim not sure01:46
spdfSpaceraverlinux, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/samba/+bug/4808201:46
Flannelbododo: grab the alternate ISO, it comes with apache01:46
bododoHi molinero :)01:46
Spaceraverlinuxit's a common bug then01:47
tsolerso im using gnome01:47
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: yeah01:47
bododoFlannel, but then how 'bout the desktop side? i also need it01:47
spdfSpaceraverlinux, Yeh, looks like its been there for awhile01:47
Flannelbododo: alternate ISOs are the dekstops, with some additional packages (like apache, for instance)01:47
tsolerbut what is the differences?01:47
Kyraltsoler: look and feel, GTK vs. Qt, personal opinions01:47
KyralAlso one of the Big Linux Holy Wars01:47
bimberibododo: yes, you can run server and desktop packages on the same install01:47
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: I think gnome uses c while kde uses c++01:47
eck0im just ognna use wine lol01:47
KyralRoger_The_Bum: WRONG :P01:47
tsoleri ask your personal opinion01:47
bododoFlannel, you suggest me to install the desktop version and then individually install the servers packages?01:47
xipietotecokay....upgrade to dapper went through except for 3 programs01:48
eck0emu some windows stuff like ventrilo etc01:48
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: quite honestly, I prefer gnome01:48
KyralRoger_The_Bum: its more that GNOME uses the GTK widget kit and KDE uses Qt. Both GTK and Qt have bindings to many languages01:48
tsolerfor me that i dont know much is a basic01:48
Flannelbododo: no.  download the 'alternate' iso, it has the desktop stuff, and apache etc on it.  then you install apache from the CD01:48
ianmacgregor!lamp > bododo01:48
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xipietotec mzscheme gtk-engines-eazel drscheme all returned errors01:48
Kyraltsoler: Just try both01:48
Kyraltsoler: You can have both installed at once (Hell I have before)01:49
bododoit's not shiped?01:49
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Flannelbododo: yes.  right.01:49
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Kyral(Hell I have had all the WMs at once installed)01:49
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tsolerive noticed that gnome takes me too many clicks01:49
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Roger_The_BumKyral: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-] >.<++++[>+++++++<-] >+.<++[>+++<-] >+..+++.++++[>++++++++<-] >.<+++++[>++++++++++<-] >+++++.<<.+++.------.<+++[>---<-] >+ is this supported by gtk?01:49
bododoFlannel, but... my Internet speed :( poor me, it's but 128kb/s01:49
KyralRoger_The_Bum: WTF?01:49
spdftsoler, so you said...01:49
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Roger_The_BumKyral: brainf*ck01:49
iamthericRoger_The_Bum, debian has over 20000 packagees in its repo's by default01:49
iamthericbododo, my connect is under 4kbps01:49
Willhow do i install the ALSA drivers?01:50
KyralRoger_The_Bum: Write bindings :P01:50
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:50
eck0anyone know how to install wine? so i can use various windows stuff01:50
FlannelRoger_The_Bum: that'd be a BF interpreter, not in GTK nor QT, unless someone wrote a BF interface to QT01:50
Juhaztsoler, largest difference is in philosophy. gnome tries to be simple with sane defaults, even if that sometimes limits choices, whereas kde has settings for everything, and then some01:50
tsolerhow can i test the kde environemnt?01:50
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maxflaxIm reading the INSTALL file for the alsa-drivers 1.0.13.. and on one row it says about make install : "If you have already a system with ALSA init script, you should install just only modules via 'make install-modules' so that the existing init script won't be replaced." I have alsa installed now but older version. should I only do a make-install-modules then?01:50
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:50
Kyraltsoler: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:50
iamthericbododo, 128 would be godly for m01:50
Flanneltsoler: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:50
KyralI win :P01:50
Flanneltsoler: use aptitutde, since it'll make it easier to uninstall later if you choose to get rid of it01:50
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FlannelKyral: not if he wants to remove it ;)01:51
Roger_The_Bumtsoler: gksudo synaptic install kubuntu-desktop01:51
Roger_The_Bumbecause I'm contrarian01:51
Roger_The_Bumand/or confromist01:51
bododoiamtheric, it's 128 kilo bits per second01:51
KyralFlannel: Aptitute works quite well with Apt-Get01:51
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maxflaxAnd where is the init script? maybe I can do a backup on it before i install?01:51
Spaceraverlinuxbododo, then i should not brag about my connection...01:51
tsolerthat wiil install what ? only the wm?01:51
bododoSpaceraverlinux, no you shouldn't :)01:52
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Spaceraverlinuxtsoler, it will install the whole desktop01:52
iamtherici wear flannel01:52
FlannelKyral: apt-get won't remove the entire desktop thing when removes the meta package, aptitude makes that possible, he is just trying kde afterall01:52
ianmacgregortsoler: That will install the KDE desktop environment01:52
iamthericbododo, whats your average dl speed01:52
KyralFlannel: This is why I use Arch :P01:52
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bododo14 kilobytes per second01:52
KyralFlannel: One Tool One Good Thing :P01:52
Spaceraverlinux^what he said01:52
tsolerhow much data is that?01:53
iamthericbododo, why must you switch from redhat?01:53
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Spaceraverlinuxtsoler, you have capped dl??'01:53
bododoiamtheric, just despointed, theier community.. is...well.. very silent?01:53
slop|laphelp : i have followed every tutorial i can find about watching DVD's...but still, when i put in a dvd in my laptop, it doesn't even pop up on my desktop!  please help!01:53
Kyraland For The Record01:53
tsolerwhats this:)?/01:53
KyralGConf Sucks :P01:53
Noob1ok i need help i came in erler and asked if there was a way to get a gui on the server version and i was told yes and to type " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it did not work what shuld i try now01:53
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ianmacgregortsoler: I agree with Flannel. Installing kubuntu-desktop with synaptic will make it a pain to uninstall KDE should you not want it. Installing it with aptitude will make it easy to uninstall it later. However, the version of apt-get that ships with edgy will fix that little problem, thanks to the bug report I submitted.01:53
FlannelKyral: take it somewhere else01:54
jbmigelhowcome i cant get my framebuffer resolution above 1024x768? my monitor supports 1280x1024 when in X01:54
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KyralJust that comment01:54
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KyralI don't intend to start flamewars01:54
iamtherictsoler, apples and oranges01:54
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ianmacgregorKyral: Good, because I'd hate to have to use the ops trigger :)01:54
JuhazKyral, then you shouldn't flame01:54
brainotsoler: looks like 40kB, heres exactly what it installs: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/misc/kubuntu-desktop01:54
KyralJuhaz: you know me well enough to know that I state my opinion openly01:55
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slop|laphelp : i have followed every tutorial i can find about watching DVD's...but still, when i put in a dvd in my laptop, it doesn't even pop up on my desktop!  please help!01:55
Kyral..oh jeez do you REALLY want me to start a flamewar?01:55
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tsolerthansk braino01:55
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Spaceraverlinuxslop|lap, relax we read it the first time01:55
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:56
redsoxfan90hey need some help on something here.01:56
slop|lapSpaceraverlinux, i've followed those01:56
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Spaceraverlinuxhave you tried vlc??01:56
Noob1ok i need help i came in erler and asked if there was a way to get a gui on the server version and i was told yes and to type " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it did not work what shuld i try now01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
redsoxfan90my trash can on the lower right corner isn't there was a few hours ago :)01:56
FlannelNoob1: What error did you get? since, that does work01:56
Noob1nothing loaded01:56
bruenigredsoxfan90, right click on the panel, and then click add to panel and then find the applet and click on it01:56
slop|lapSpaceraverlinux, no, but i think the problem is not the player...it doesn't pop up on the desktop when i insert a dvd01:56
bododowell it's very nice to meet you all guys and discover your world, be back for sure01:56
ianmacgregorslop|lap: You want a dvd to popup in an app when you put the movie in the drive?01:57
Spaceraverlinuxredsoxfan90, maybe ubuntu went out with the trash...01:57
FlannelNoob1: what error/response/etc did you get?01:57
slop|lapianmacgregor, i just want it to play dvds01:57
spdfslop|lap, So, You put the dvd in, load up Movie Player (totem), and it won't play?01:57
Noob1its just back to the start thing with ksa#ksashops:~$01:57
eck0hey to dl wine it says http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain01:57
jorikhow can i check the 'RSA key fingerprint' of the ssh server running on my computer ?01:57
eck0but that site doesnt work01:57
slop|lapspdf, right, and neither will xine01:57
ianmacgregorslop|lap: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media01:57
Will:'( i want sound01:57
Noob1i did not get any error it just stoped01:57
Spaceraverlinuxianmacgregor, i think he wants it to show on the desktop01:57
KyralNoob1: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start01:57
Willdoes anyone know of any sound drivers that will work with the CS4236 ?01:57
ianmacgregorSpaceraverlinux: Yeah, Im gonna try and get that going for him01:57
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slop|lapianmacgregor, i don't want it to set to automatically play, i just want it to work :P01:57
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Noob1comand bot found01:58
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eck0wat does deb do?01:58
ianmacgregorslop|lap: So, you don't want the movie auto play, but you want the app to popup on the desktop so you can play the movie???01:58
slop|lapit won't play dvds...and i don't think it's recognizing them, as i'm not getting a dvd icon on the desktop when i insert a dvd (like i do on both of my desktops)01:58
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)01:58
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, get this rep list http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23642501:58
nym_hey, how do i upgrade my ubuntu?01:58
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eck0well i need to dl it01:59
bruenignym_, to edgy?01:59
slop|lapianmacgregor, no lol...it won't play dvds...i'm just mentioning that it doesn't pop up on the desktop as a clue to why it won't play...i'm thinking it might not recognize dvd's or something01:59
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Will!upgrade | nym_01:59
ubotunym_: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:59
eck0and i went to debhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain and it was some crazy shit lol01:59
slop|lapianmacgregor, i just want to be able to play dvds on my laptop01:59
spdfslop|lap, do you have mplayer installed?01:59
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Ok, here's how to get the icon to popup on the desktop. Applications -> System -> Configuration editor. Open that and let me know when it's open02:00
redsoxfan90ty bruenig!!!02:00
redsoxfan90cu all.02:00
Spaceraverlinuxeck0, copy that list to your own repository list02:00
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FlannelNoob1: pastebin your sources.list02:00
Willwhat does edgy run on GTK 1.X or GTX 2.X?02:00
slop|lapspdf, i don't think so...i have xine and totem that i know of02:00
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slop|lapianmacgregor, ok , doing that02:00
Spaceraverlinuxor overwrite it actually02:00
spdfslop|lap, if so, open up a terminal and "mplayer dvd://" and pastebin the output in the terminal..02:00
Noob1flannel how go i get to my sorces02:00
tsoleris kde installation only 40 kb???02:00
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications02:00
FlannelNoob1: /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
Noob1and im on a diffrent computor02:00
jribtsoler: no02:00
ianmacgregorslop|lap: When the conf editor is open, go to the left pane and go to apps/nautilus/desktop02:00
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LjLWill: current Gnome uses GTK 202:00
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eck0debhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain is what the site told me to use02:01
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spdfslop|lap, Or, try totem dvd://02:01
Spaceraverlinuxis edgy stable enough to play with??02:01
eck0but i put it in mozilla didnt work rite02:01
Noob1i got permission denied02:01
Flannel!tell eck0 about wine02:01
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bruenigeck0, you have to add that to your sources.list02:01
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bruenigeck0, you have to add that to your sources.list02:01
Noob1Flannel i got permission denied02:01
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tsoler i want to test which is better for me kde or gnome02:01
FlannelSpaceraverlinux: its final release will be this thursday, RC1 right now.  so... hopefully.  #ubuntu+1 would be the best place for real answers to that though02:02
slop|lapspdf, ok, it seems the problem is with libdvdcss202:02
eck0and i do that how???02:02
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FlannelNoob1: you need to open that in a text editor02:02
slop|lapspdf, i got this message in the GUI : The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?02:02
tsolercan anyone tellme how much trouble it is to make the transit02:02
fatsheepwill dapper automatically update to edgy once it becomes officially supported?02:02
slop|lapspdf, but i have libdvdcss2 installed02:02
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spdfslop|lap, Make sure02:02
Noob1im on the server virsion and im trying to get the gui i have no real idea how to do that Flannel02:02
slop|lapspdf, how?02:02
bruenigeck0, open a terminal and do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, once in there just paste that line anywhere in it. Save. Then back in the terminal do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine02:03
Flannelfatsheep: no, it'll ask you though02:03
ianmacgregorJuhaz: I am ssh'ing into another box where I have admin privs (sudo), how do I log out a user via command line on that other box?02:03
fatsheepok cool02:03
spdfslop|lap, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss202:03
FlannelNoob1: nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lastfm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
GhostFreemanthanks anyways ubotu02:03
spdfslop|lap, Should give you "libdvdcss2 is already newest version."02:03
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ianmacgregorspdf: He may not have the repo for that02:03
slop|lapspdf, yup it's installed already02:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:03
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slop|lapianmacgregor, i do, it's installed02:03
ianmacgregoror maybe he does, lol02:03
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Noob1Flannel: what do u want to know on all these pages02:04
SAM_themanyo hommies02:04
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Spaceraverlinuxi think i will try edgy now...02:04
SAM_themanwho wants to dual me in ET02:04
FlannelNoob1: you need to paste them into the pastebin02:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:04
FlannelSAM_theman: #ubuntu-offtopic02:04
slop|lapspdf, mplayer dvd:// doesn't work either, it gives me an error in terminal02:04
Noob1im on a diffrent computor i cnat02:04
FlannelNoob1: are you SSHd in? or what?02:04
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spdfslop|lap, What error?02:04
spdfslop|lap, pastebin it02:04
eck0tells me deb command not found so umm ya02:04
SAM_themanFlannel, smart one in the ubutnu server02:04
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slop|lapspdf, k, doing that02:05
bruenigeck0, did you do what I said?02:05
eck0i missed it sry02:05
eck0i accidently clsoed it02:05
xipietotecokay...upgraded to edgy but now my wifi card doesn't work, I used ndiswrapper to get it working previously, how can I get it working now?02:05
bruenigyou were in here when I said it I believe but of not, <bruenig> eck0, open a terminal and do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, once in there just paste that line anywhere in it. Save. Then back in the terminal do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine02:05
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Flannelxipietotec: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support02:05
xipietotecah, kay02:05
slop|lapspdf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27907/02:05
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spdfslop|lap, hmm.. is your cdrom /dev/hdc?02:06
Noob1i got the server virsion off your website now i have it loaded but there is no gui with it... i did what some one told me to do and all i got was a blank page so i hit restart on my cpu and it loaded nothing... im new to linux so i dont know what to do... right now im on my windows so i can see what to do02:06
tsolergoodnight to all02:06
spdfslop|lap, Its looking for /dev/dvd, check to see if that exists02:06
slop|lapspdf, i'm not sure...i just installed...how do i check?02:06
tsolerhere is too late02:06
FlannelNoob1: You can connect to IRC on the server version, 'irssi' is installed, and lynx is isntalled (thats a web browser)02:07
tsolernext time will see kde02:07
spdfslop|lap, run mount in the terminal02:07
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slop|lapspdf, just did that, it doesn't list a dvd drive02:07
spdfslop|lap, it'll list all mounted volumes, You're looking for the one linked to /media/cdrom02:07
ragone easy question02:07
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FlannelNoob1: anyway, is the computer connected to the internet? we really need more information other than "it didn't work" to diagnose the problem02:07
slop|lapspdf, its not mounted02:07
spdfslop|lap, mount /media/cdrom02:08
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coincoin169helo to alla02:08
Spaceraverlinuxrag, shoot02:08
coincoin169hello to all02:08
ragcreative web cam support02:08
coincoin169scuz me02:08
Noob1well flannel dose the server version gave a gui02:08
Spaceraverlinuxcoincoin169, hello to you too02:08
slop|lapspdf, it says mount: No medium found02:08
ragSpaceraverlinux: creative web cam support02:08
FlannelNoob1: you can install a GUI, but no it does't have a GUI installed by default02:08
spdfslop|lap, Is there a dvd/cd in the drive?02:08
slop|lapspdf, there's definately a dvd in the drive02:08
coincoin169do i need to compile mesa or/and dri in order to install nvidia driver or all is included in the nvidia driver ???02:08
SpaceraverlinuxNoob1, have you used startx??02:09
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Run gmplayer, go to the prefs, go to the Misc tab and at the bottom, set your dirves up02:09
Noob1well can u tell me how to install a gui so i can just start all over02:09
Noob1Spaceraverlinux no02:09
eck0Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:09
eck0This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:09
eck0is only available from another source02:09
eck0E: Package wine has no installation candidate02:09
Noob1i have no idea what that even is02:09
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ragSpaceraverlinux: do you know links or package drivers for creative web cam?02:09
FlannelNoob1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is how you install the GUI02:09
bruenigeck0, you added that repo and did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"?02:09
FlannelNoob1: unless you want to reinstall entirely, in which case download the desktop or alternate (I suggest the latter) to install02:09
eck0thats all 1 command i thought i was 2 klol02:10
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SpaceraverlinuxNoob1, might wanna try that... if you just installed the desktop it might not "just start"...02:10
bruenigeck0, it doesn't matter, doing seperate should do the same thing02:10
eck0same thing02:10
rockzmanHow do I activate my video card 3d Acceleration02:10
eck0says its not there02:10
bruenigeck0, you are sure you added that repo into /etc/apt/sources.list?02:10
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slop|lapianmacgregor, i can't...when i run it, it just locks up, doesn't even give me menus to click on or anythhing, just two blank boxes02:11
bruenigeck0, pastebin your sources.list02:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:11
eck0its # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:11
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bruenigeck0, you have to delete that #02:11
eck0ok 1  sec02:12
jbmigelWhy wont framebuffer goto 1280x1024? my monitor supports it... but at boot I get "invalid number" @ vga=0x31A02:12
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Are you using gnome with xgl or compiz?02:12
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Flanneleck0: you probably don't want deb-src either, deb instead02:12
slop|lapianmacgregor, nope, just standard install02:12
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bruenigeck0, also there should be another line in there that looks like this, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main02:12
Noob1well i had the desk top version02:12
Spaceraverlinuxoff to bed... nn all02:12
Noob1but i did not have all the stuff the server did02:12
ianmacgregorslop|lap: Did you install mplayer from the repos?02:12
FlannelNoob1: Right, you can install that later though02:12
Noob1ohh ok02:12
slop|lapianmacgregor, yes02:13
eck0got it thanks man02:13
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Noob1well ill install the desktop agan02:13
Flannel!tell Noob1 about lamp02:13
FlannelNoob1: that's how (the link ubotu gave you)02:13
baxter_kylieHi. I have an LVM question: If I have a dev (/hda) with 4 partitions, is it possible to convert one of the partitions to be managed by LVM but leave the others as physical partitions?02:13
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ink251how would I edit a packages source before installing it?02:13
[Daniel] Woo hoo! The printer works!02:13
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baxter_kylieink251: If you've downloaded the source it should be in /usr/src02:14
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Flannelink251: download the source package instead of the binary package02:14
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ink251parallax: you do anything with basic stamps?02:14
ink251how would i set it to download the source instead of the binary?02:14
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Flannelink251: apt-get source [package] 02:14
ParallaxBasic stamps? I don't know a thing about them.02:15
spdfslop|lap, cat /proc/diskstats and pastebin that02:15
baxter_kylieink251: What Flannel said.02:15
ink251oh, the company that makes them is parallax02:15
Flannelink251: you'll also maybe need apt-get build-dep [package]  which will download the dependencies02:15
bimberiink251: enable source repositories (deb-src lines in sources.list) if required02:15
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ink251ok that helps, thanks02:15
ink251sometimes i like to tweak my programs a little02:15
ParallaxAnyone know of any particular issues with the installation partioner in the latest release (of Ubuntu)?02:15
slop|lapspdf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27908/02:15
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spdfslop|lap, try mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom02:16
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slop|lapspdf, it returned "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"02:16
timwizzyShould is use Ubuntu or Debian for my apache, ftp, email server?02:17
shriphaniguys getting some hardware here no need help02:17
eck0ok im tryng to install a program but not working great....02:17
ianmacgregorspdf: There's no file system on /dev/hdc02:17
shriphanishould i get an amd or an intel02:17
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emacsenHow do I disable ryhtombox from turning on when I plug in my ipod?02:17
spdfslop|lap, mount /dev/hdc -t auto /media/cdrom02:17
timwizzyCan someome tell me, whats the deal with ubuntu not having a root logon?02:17
ink251tim: debian, you wont need all the user friendly features ubuntu has02:17
bimberiubotu tell timwizzy about root02:17
emacsentimwizzy, you don't need it02:17
slop|lapspdf, same result02:17
ianmacgregor!sudo > ink25102:17
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ink251tim: sudo passwd02:18
ink251once you set a password02:18
ink251and change the login settings02:18
ianmacgregor!sudo > timwizzy02:18
ink251you can login as root02:18
ianmacgregorink251: Sorry about that02:18
rodneyendortimwizzy sudo bash02:18
eck0so were does stuff save that i dl with me putting it in a dir, like whats default dir02:18
Flannelink251: no, there's no need.  Stop.  He's got sudo, he's wondering about sudo, not how to get a root login02:18
ink251ian: its cool02:18
bruenigeck0, what are you trying to do?02:18
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eck0i downloaded a windows program to emu02:18
ianmacgregorink251: Please don't tell people to set a root password, it isn't supported configuration02:18
eck0and were does it save ?02:19
shriphaniemacsen, System -----> Preferences -------> Removable Drives and Media02:19
englahi. How do I get more dictionaries? I installed dictd, but I want more that the available dictionaries from the repositories. for example is there a german-german dictionary?02:19
Flanneleck0: depends on how you downloaded it, and where that defaults to save it02:19
bruenigeck0, where did you save it when you downloaded it?02:19
ink251flannel: someone might find that information usefull, uber security is not a big deal among someone who would use ubuntu02:19
eck0it just auto saved02:19
emacsenshriphani, wow, that seems... random. Is that documented somewhere?02:19
eck0didnt let me choose02:19
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Flannelink251: right, but the root sudo page has that already.  Normal users who ask about root only do so because they don't know how sudo works.02:19
shriphaniemacsen, thats the only way i know of02:20
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bruenigeck0, it probably saves it in your home folder02:20
shriphanifrom there go to e multimedia tab02:20
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ink251or they hate that prompt to login every time you change a a setting02:20
baxter_kylieink251: Indeed. And the few of us that need root access for certain applications can usually get by with fakeroot02:20
emacsenshriphani, yeah I appreciate it. Just disconcerting to an old *nix user :)02:20
Flannelink251: there are sudo solutions to that too, sudo -i or sudo -s02:20
rodneyendorsudo bash works for me02:20
shriphaniat the bottom you should see a Portable Players option02:21
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shriphanichange the command to whatever you want02:21
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JamesTHello everyone02:21
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JamesTanyone here?02:21
eck0wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\LimeWireWin.exe": Module not found02:21
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ianmacgregorJamesT: hi02:21
robbiHi all,02:21
emacsenJamesT, yes, we're waiting for the question :)02:21
ink251eck0: use gtk-gnutella02:21
JamesTI see02:21
fnfJamesT: yes ?02:21
timwizzyHow is the "First User" different to other users?02:22
JamesTis there a way to play battlefield 1942 on Ubuntu Linux?02:22
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JamesTIt's a game for windows02:22
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emacsentimwizzy, it's added to all the groups02:22
ink251try apt-get install wine02:22
braskoanyone know how to get the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package installed?02:22
ink251then run the exe with wine02:22
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eck0if its doesnt work on wine02:22
braskoI need it for the nomachine's nx client02:22
eck0u need WineX its like 5 am onth02:22
timwizzyemacsen: is that really the only difference.02:22
emacsenJamesT, maybe, if it works in Wine. Otherwise, no02:22
robbiI've got a Dell Dimension, and I just installed a Netgear MA311 (PCI) in it.  It also has an onboard Ethernet connector, and that is what I am using now.02:22
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shriphanibrasko, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:22
bruenigeck0, why don't you use a linux gnutella client?02:22
fnfJamesT: there is, but not guaranteed to work, try searching for wine package, or the commercial Cedega02:22
timwizzyHow do i manage users and groups02:22
QuashCan anyone tell me how to boot in to the 6.10 Desktop CD with a vesa generic monitor command?  I can't boot in and think it may because Xorg doesn't recognize my Compaq P1100 monitor.02:22
ink251check out the wine applications database02:22
eck0im gonna02:23
ParallaxJamesT, I'm not sure how far they've achieved in emulating DirectX, but that is a huge task for a game like that.02:23
robbiBut the wifi card doesn't even02:23
emacsentimwizzy, what /exactly/ are you asking?02:23
robbishow up in Networking.02:23
slop|lapspdf, when i run regionset, i get this : ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"! Please ensure there is a readable CD or DVD in the drive.02:23
braskois there any way to see what files will be installed from a given name like build-essential?02:23
shriphaniso is am or intel better02:23
shriphaniamd ^02:23
braskobefore actually installing it?02:23
slop|lapspdf, i've done this with 3 different dvds02:23
timwizzyI read somewhere that the first user has special privlafges02:23
JamesThmm... I really want to use linux but I need to be able to do everything I can do on a windows system02:23
emacsentimwizzy, yeah, it's added to the group so that it can run sudo02:23
shriphanibrasko, it should list all the sff and then ask you if you wanna proceed02:23
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JamesTI'm downloading the Ubuntu desktop cd now02:24
KeyseirHey, I just ran dist-upgrade on my breezy badger system upgrading to dapper drake. After it finished and I restarted, X wouldn't start up, no GUI. Do I have to alter this "config" file? How?02:24
ianmacgregortimwizzy: Yes, the first user has admin privs. You can manage users and groups with: gksu users-admin02:24
emacsenJamesT, if by "everything" you mean running binaries, then forget it.02:24
robbiand I'm running 6.06.02:24
ParallaxYou can run a BF1942 server, but not the client game.02:24
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braskoyes, sorry, I'm wondering what exactly will be installed in the filesystem, when installing a package.02:24
JamesTI see02:24
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braskolike, when installing bash you'll see /bin/bash and /etc/profile, ...02:24
emacsenJamesT, that's like saying "I won't use Windows unless it runs my OSX apps"02:24
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braskois there a command to do that?02:24
spdfslop|lap, You're sure its a dvd capable drive?02:24
slop|lapspdf, yeah, it says DVD ROM on it :p02:24
JamesTWell that's not exactly what I meant to say02:24
JamesTI love linux and everything about it.02:24
JamesTI wish I could run it all the time02:25
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ink251me too02:25
braskoactually, is there a way to do 'dpkg -L packagename', but before the package is installed?02:25
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JamesTwould you recommend running a dual boot system with windows xp and linux?02:25
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JamesTI have an extra HD to run it from02:25
ink251use wine to run windows apps02:25
KeyseirCould I please get some help? I upgraded breezy to dapper and now X won't load up02:25
ink251i just recently made the switch02:25
eck0dude u can run games on linux02:25
eck0if u got 5 a month02:25
JamesTWine will run most windows apps?02:25
FlannelJamesT: Check winehq.com for compatability, see if whatever games are supported/etc02:25
y0gibearI'm running dual boot with xp, ubuntu is on my slave hd02:25
ink251and havent had to use windows since02:25
JamesTI see02:25
QuashKeyseir: I am having a very similar problem right now, but when I boot in from the Edgy CD my screen goes blank.  Could be the same thing.02:26
spdfKeyseir, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:26
emacsenJamesT, personally, now a days, I'd either run Wine, or I'd spend the money on another computer. For real work, there's nothing I can't do in my GNU/Linux system02:26
JamesTthanks for the help guys02:26
ink251most simple programs02:26
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JamesTI'm really looking to start using linux more02:26
ink251some games02:26
QuashKeyseir: You may want to try this, first.  Didn't work for me, but could work for you...02:26
JamesTI want to get away from windows completely if possible02:26
ink251does networking pretty well02:26
adioe3How do I set the value of a variable to be the output of: date +%d-%M-%Y ????02:26
QuashKeyseir: alt + ctrl + F602:26
Quashsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:26
Quashsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:26
emacsenJamesT, well, other than your game, is there anything else?02:26
QuashThen control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM02:26
ink251is it going to be on a desktop or a laptop02:26
Keyseirspdf: What about pastebin..?02:26
eck0james do you got 5 bucks a month you can pay?02:27
ianmacgregorJamesT: It's indeed possible. I haven't touched Windows in years.02:27
skelterAnyone have any experience getting SDL/openGL working with ubuntu?02:27
rockzmanX Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest02:27
rockzman can someone tell me why is this error ocurring02:27
KeyseirQuash: Hm, ok02:27
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totall_6_7JamesT: getting away from Windows totaly is a great feeling, trust me i know :D:D02:27
JamesTYeah, that one disk download for the Ubuntu Desktop CD, if I want to permanently install Ubuntu as a second OS on my Windows system, can I do that directly from the Ubuntu CD I'm getting now?02:27
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Flannel!tell JamesT about dualboot02:27
JamesTOr does it have to download more stuff during the install process02:27
FlannelJamesT: nope, what you have is fine.  See the link ubotu sent you for more information02:28
Quashspdf: do you know how to boot in to the CD/DVD with a vesa generic monitor option in the boot sequence?  I don't think Xorg recognizes my Compaq P1100 monitor.02:28
eck0i wonder if i can get eve-online to run thru wine02:28
emacsenJamesT, yes, but Windows gets funky about boot loaders. A few years ago it may have been worth it. I don't think it is anymore02:28
ink251you will want to download some more things to make it user friendly02:28
eck0or if i need cydego02:28
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ink251but it will work find right off of the cd02:28
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ink251jamesT, check out Beryl on google video02:28
ink251if thats not a reason to switch i dont know what is02:28
Quashianmacgregor: do you know how to boot in to the CD/DVD with a vesa generic monitor option in the boot sequence? I don't think Xorg recognizes my Compaq P1100 monitor.02:29
ParallaxHas anyone here installed an Ubuntu (server) on a RAID5 machine?02:29
eck0so were does wine put the dir for my stuff that i emu02:29
bimberiadioe3: var=`date +%d-%m-%Y`   (note that month is lowercase m, M is minutes)02:29
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JamesTWould you guys say that Ubuntu is the best linux for a home user such as myself?02:29
fnfQuash: I'll want to take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the Monitor section is probably screwed up. Try '#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' first.02:29
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JamesTI like a lot of the features it offers02:30
ink251JamesT: its the best for making the windows/linux switch02:30
emacsenJamesT, I'd say it's the best GNU/Linux distribution for most users, yes02:30
ianmacgregorQuash: No, but it's quite easy to back up xorg.conf, edit it and restart X02:30
duckdownubuntu is awesome for new users...02:30
jribJamesT: it's a good distribution imo, but best depends on your individual needs and preferences02:30
JamesTThe only other distro I was looking at is Fedora Core02:30
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Quashianmacgregor: I'm going fromt the CD, so can't edit.02:30
duckdownJamesT i tried fedora before ubuntu.. i love ubuntu way more02:30
JamesTSince I am familiar with Red Hat command line02:30
skelterJamesT: I have both fedora and ubuntu. i recommend ubuntu. it's a lot nicer02:30
emacsenJamesT, for just a regular user, it's probably the best you'll find.02:30
skelterthings just work02:31
duckdownbut i'm a n00b so what the hell do i know02:31
ianmacgregorQuash: Oh, livecd? I don't know about that as I don't use the livecd.02:31
spdfQuash, When you boot select one of the rescue options. It'll give you a command line02:31
Y0da^can anyone point me in the right direction for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?02:31
JamesTIs Ubuntu similar to red hat at all?  I mean command line?02:31
emacsenJamesT, there's no red hat command line, the command line is the same between distributions02:31
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JamesTI see02:31
duckdownJamesT> No, fedora is.. this is similar to debian02:31
emacsenduckdown, he means is bash still bash02:31
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duckdownemacsen oh :)02:31
eck0im back lol02:31
ianmacgregorJamesT: The package manager commands are quite different but the command line is usually the same for most distros.02:32
JamesTYeah basically just wondering if the shell commands are the same/similar02:32
emacsenJamesT, the differences between Ubuntu and Red Hat are minor02:32
Juhazianmacgregor, kill his login shell?02:32
Quashfnf: I've tried Try '#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but couldn't access terminal from boot.  The CD booted past the boot splash but when it went to load the desktop, the screen went black.  Ctrl+Alt+6 didn't access terminal, so I couldn't do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and don't know how to, otherwise.02:32
duckdownyum is so damn slow.. I love apt02:32
ianmacgregorJuhaz: That would work, you know the command for that?02:32
baxter_kylieAny have any experience with LVM?02:32
emacsenJamesT, the shell is the same. Just a few things will be in a few different places, and a couple of different commands. Like driving a different model car02:32
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Y0da^can anyone point me in the right direction for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?02:33
JamesTIf dual boot isn't recommended, perhaps I should just install Ubuntu on my spare pc and see how much I can accomplish without windows.02:33
DeCaeloDoes anyone here have any expereince with the 915resolution tool02:33
emacsenJamesT, honestly, that's what I'd do02:33
Y0da^i dual just fine02:34
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fnfQuash: the installer CD has a rescue mode, try to see it if boots to the terminal, else append 'single' to the boot parameter. Btw, it is Ctrt+Alt+F[1-6] 02:34
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emacsenJimbo, you can try to dual boot. I'd be more concerned about Windows not working than anything else02:34
rbilinstalled ubuntu-server on an epia system and just trying to install openssh-server. It is now in the process of generating a DSA key and says this may take some time ... how long would this normally take on a lo-powered mobo like this? Don't know if it's hung or indeed just taking its time.02:34
Y0da^just dont install over the ntfs partitions02:34
emacsenrbil, maybe 3-4 seconds, max02:35
spdfrbil, shouldn't take very long at all.02:35
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Quashfnf: will rescue mode give me other options on how to boot in the Live Desktop?  I need to do this first, before installing, to make sure I don't have install issues after I wipe Breezy. :)02:35
rbiloops, never mind ... finally made its way thru it.02:35
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rbilthis is a real low powered box.02:35
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emacsenrbil, apparently!02:35
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rbilgoing to use it simply as a samba server02:35
spdfrbil, How low?02:35
Quashotherwise, I'd just install via the text install option, cross my fingers, hold my breath and go for broke. :)02:36
jribis it possible to make nautilus call 'command selection1 selection2' where 'selection1' and 'selection2' are the two files that I select in a drag and select for example and then right click and open?02:36
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fnfQuash: I haven't used Ubuntu desktop CD so no idea about that, but you'll need to boot to single mode to check the xorg.conf.02:36
rbilepia mII6000E mobo :-)02:36
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braskook, I still haven't found the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package.02:37
Y0da^where can i go for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?02:37
braskoIs it available in ubuntu?02:37
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ubuntu_newbfinally, a nick that wasn't registered lol02:37
jribbrasko: have you enabled universe?02:37
spdf600mhz.. mmf, that's hot.02:37
ink251JamesT: i wouldnt recommend that, if you use windows every time you are uncomfortable with ubuntu you wont learn to use it well, getting it customized for your preferences is half the fun02:37
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Quashfnf: how do I boot to single mode? And will this confirm the Xorg LiveCD file or my Breezy one?  Installed Breezy in fine.02:37
ubuntu_newbdo you have to boot from the Ubuntu CD to run from the cd or can I run it through windows?02:37
DarkMageZY0da^, did you install it systemwide or just to your local user?02:37
emacsenubuntu_newb, you boot from it02:38
Y0da^i'm having problems installing it02:38
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Y0da^The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.102:38
QuashRight now, I just want to boot in via Vesa to rule that out as the problem.02:38
CAsurferCan somebody help me with my apt-get problem?  Whenever I install a package, apt-get also tries to install an old package which was installed successfully, but which apt-get thinks wasn't installed.  So whenever I use apt-get, it tries to install an unnecessary package and fails.  Does anyone know how to fix something like this?02:38
jribCAsurfer: what package?  Can you pastebin the apt-get output?02:39
ZarephathI need to connect a windows machine to a nfs share..googling thus far has only revealed costly software..anyone have an easy solution other than putting linux on that machine?02:39
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fnfQuash: I suspect adding 'single' to the boot parameter should be enough. What what do you mean by 'confirm the xorg Live CD files' ?02:39
CAsurferjrib: vmware02:39
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braskojrib: no02:39
ink251Zare: \\machine\share in run02:40
jribubotu: tell brasko about universe02:40
CAsurferjrib, refine that: vmware-player02:40
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ubuntu_newbvmware player is awsome02:40
braskojrib: is there a downside to adding universe?02:41
Zarephathink251: Kewl thanks02:41
CAsurferubuntu_newb, I know, I just wish apt-get would realize that it's already installed02:41
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ubuntu_newbit allows you to run other operating systems on your windows machine.  For example: you can run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on your Windows system.  Why anyone would want to do that, I don't know unless it is for learning purposes.02:41
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skelterAnyone ever have problems getting SDL/openGL working? Getting "Video initialization failed: Unsupported console hardware" from a nehe lesson02:42
jribbrasko: not really, though it is not guaranteed to get security updates from the official ubuntu team.  You can read the specifics in the "components" wiki page ubotu should have linked you too, but most people end up enabling universe (and multiverse)02:42
ianmacgregorWhy anyone would run Windows, I don't know.. unless it's for insanity reasons.02:42
Zarephathubuntu_newb: I use it to run windows under ubuntu! And it even runs better than natively :-O02:42
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eck0ok how do i log onto my windows02:42
jribCAsurfer: the apt-get output will probably be helpful as well02:42
eck0it auto goes to my linux02:42
ubuntu_newbwait... I can run windows on Ubuntu?02:42
ZarephathI can point out one reason...you can't sync a pocket pc running mobile 5 OS on any versino of linux without a bunch of hacking02:42
eck0i have 2 hdd02:42
ink251use wine for that02:42
phireZarephath: Does it hve directX support02:42
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b08yubuntu_newb: u can, with vmware server02:43
ubuntu_newbvmware server for linux?02:43
ubuntu_newbis that free?02:43
b08yit is02:43
BadkittyAnyone want to try to help me get my wireless working??? Im still noob but I got it to work on my laptop but not my desktop02:43
Zarephathphire: Not sure..think so...I am not using for anything other than syncing my pocketpc02:43
braskojrib: ok, I read the pages02:43
braskojrib: but still don't see exactly how to turn it on02:43
ZarephathBadkitty: What does sudo iwlink show you?02:43
ubuntu_newbit allows you to run other operating systems on your windows machine.  For example: you can run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on your Windows system.02:44
ink251i have a bunch of old laptops laying around anyone got any idea on what to do with them, think interactive picture frame, cluster, etc02:44
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jribbrasko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories is pretty straightforward02:44
Zarephathink251: I would beowulf them...heh02:44
Lubixis anyone else having a bugaliscious time with eft edgy right now?02:44
b08yubuntu_newb: vmware server 4 linux works great!02:44
eck0how do i logon to my windows02:44
ubuntu_newbHe is saying that using vmware server could run windows xp on Ubuntu02:44
eck0it just auto puts me on linux02:44
Lubixmy Gaim keeps messing up02:44
ubuntu_newbthat's awsome02:44
ink251i want to do that thing from antitrust where the pictures change depending on whos in the room02:44
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Lubixcrashes left and right02:44
jribbrasko: go to "managing repositories" then "adding universe"02:44
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braskojrib: I see, thanks.02:44
CAsurferjrib, the essence of the output is "Errors were encountered while processing:02:45
CAsurfer vmware-player02:45
CAsurfer" Basically, apt-get keeps trying and failing.  Is there some kind of "refresh" or "clean" or "check for dependencies" or "stop being stupid" command that I can give apt-get that will resolve simple errors? Is there a way that I can see the queue of things apt-get thinks it should install, so that I can remove things from that queue?02:45
Lubixplease tell me you people have similar problems with edgy!02:45
ubuntu_newbI have a Core 2 Duo system with 2GB of ram, I should be able to run vmware server with no problem.02:45
BadkittyZarephath... I've triefd some tuts a few weeks ago.. how do i use iwlink?02:45
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ZarephathLubix: First and foremost you are in the wrong channel..ask your edgy questions in #ubuntu+02:45
ink251is vmware what you use on a dualcore to run 2 os's in parallel?02:45
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jribCAsurfer: does 'apt-cache policy vmware-player' say it is installed?02:46
b08yubuntu_newb: im runing it on p4 1,8 ghz, works well02:46
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ZarephathBadkitty: I just told you...re-read what I typed02:46
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CAsurferubuntu_newb, with a Core 2 Duo, you should have the hardware to run Xen. Have you tried it? You should be able to get blazing-fast virtualization.02:46
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ubuntu_newbyou can run 2 os's on a single processor machine using vmware02:46
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ZarephathDon't forget Badkitty to include the device name of your wireless card02:46
b08yubuntu_newb: but xen would be better in your case02:46
abohi, when I double click in Nautilus on  a ntfs drive that I have, it says sorry cannot mount drive, but the drive is already mounted, why does it try to mount it again?02:46
ubuntu_newbbut I think dual core/ dual processor is better since it allows you to dedicate one processor to each os or whatever02:46
CAsurferjrib, it says it's installed02:46
BadkittyZarephath... ok then i says command not found02:46
Zarephathb08y: Yeah but doesn't that require a kernel compile?02:47
ZarephathBadkitty: Do you have the wireless tools installed?02:47
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:47
b08yZarephath: i think so, and u cant run windows with xen02:47
CAsurferubuntu_newb, there's a good wikipedia article on Xen02:47
b08yubuntu_newb: just google xen , but atm no windows with xen02:47
ink251any of you know a good overclocking channel?02:48
jribCAsurfer: well 'apt-get install -f' will try resolving dependencies and 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' will reconfigure unconfigured stuff.  I'm not sure which you want without seeing the error02:48
Zarephathb08y: Yeah..just trying to make the point that is probably beyond his skillset at this time...02:48
jribCAsurfer: simply 'apt-get install vmware-player' may help too02:48
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ZarephathReally? vmware-player is in the repos now..go figure..heh02:48
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BadkittyI've tried several of the wiki's but still no avail. I just re-installed edgy and got a different wireless lan card, so no i don't have the tools downloaded02:49
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ZarephathBadkitty: You will have to install the wireless tools first...02:49
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rubyscubehmm.. has beryl been removed from the tree?... when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??02:50
ink251is there a gnome applet to show my disk space?02:50
BadkittyAllright let me work on that...02:50
mjelvai feel really retarded asking this, but i figured i'd give ubuntu a try, and now i'm stuck. i got the desktop cd, booted from it, chose the "boot from cd / install" option (whatever the specific wording is. the top option on the list). so it booted as with a live-cd, and i'm not sure how to proceed from here. anyone?02:50
DeCaeloDoes anyone here have experience using an intel 900 series graphics card in Ubuntu or perhaps have used the tool 915resolution?02:50
ZarephathBadkitty: You should be able to lspci(I assume your wireless card is PCI)..you should see the card listed....first question answered..if it shows up then linux sees the card02:50
ink251look for the install icon on the desktop02:50
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ZarephathBadkitty: I believe also lshw will show you as well...someone correct me if this is bad information02:50
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mjelvaink251: i'm not able to do that. i'll have to do it via commandline. how do i?02:51
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ZarephathBadkitty: Once you have determined that linux sees the hardware you need to figure out how to install the drivers...02:51
CAsurferjrib, Starting VMware services:02:51
CAsurfer   Virtual machine monitor                                            failed02:51
CAsurfer   Virtual ethernet                                                   failed02:51
CAsurferModule vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before02:51
CAsurferrunning this script.02:51
CAsurferinvoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.02:51
CAsurferdpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure):02:51
CAsurfer subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102:51
CAsurferErrors were encountered while processing:02:51
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CAsurfer vmware-player02:51
jribCAsurfer: not here, use a pastebin!02:51
CAsurferE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:51
ZarephathBadkitty: I will shoot you a link just a sec..this will show if your card is supported fully or not...02:51
ianmacgregor!pastebin > CAsurfer02:51
DCGrendelanyone know why the installer has -- at the end of the kernel commandline?02:52
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CAsurfersorry, what's a pastebin?02:52
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ZarephathBadkitty: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php02:52
ink251someone look up the launcher command line for ubuntu install for mjelva02:52
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gnomefreak!pastebin | CAsurfer02:52
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ubotuCAsurfer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:52
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ZarephathBadkitty: You still with us?02:53
mjelvacould anyone tell me how to install from cd via commandline?02:53
CAsurferjrib, note that it says that the module "vmnet" should be loaded, but I'm not able to modprobe it.02:53
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CientificoLocohello everybody I have java with automatix and it said me that it will be installed with plugins by firefox but I wanna see a site that needs java and it say that firefox need the plugin. what do I have to do?02:53
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!02:53
Zarephathmjelva: You have to mount the cdrom..then change directories to it..02:54
ubuntu_newbwich image should I download to run on my Intel Core 2 Duo System?02:54
BadkittySorry.. trying to find dependencies for gnome-network-manager02:54
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mjelvaZarephath: okay. and then?02:54
ThirstehThere's a copy of the old pastebin.com over at www.n00bh4x.net/paste too.. I like it cause it's ..a bix box, and well has syntax highlighting for all languages02:54
ubuntu_newbI just got the i386 one wich I know isn't right...02:54
jribubotu: tell CientificoLoco about java02:54
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Dominus_Suuscould someone help me troubleshoot a problem with my USB mouse, please?02:54
Zarephathmjelva: Then type the command of the program you want to run...usually preceded by ./<command>02:54
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CAsurferjrib, the complete text is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27912/02:55
ubuntu_newbcould someone please tell me the correct distro of Ubuntu to download for my Intel Core 2 Duo system?02:55
bimberiubuntu_newb: i38602:55
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mjelvaZarephath: i want to install ubuntu from this cd. what command would that be?02:56
rubyscubehmm.. has beryl been removed from the tree?... when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??02:56
ZarephathBadkitty: NP..check out the link to make sure your card is fully compatible with linux...after that it is simple to use NDISWRAPPER to install your windows drivers...if you want WPA for wireless you will need to install the wpa_supplicant package...02:56
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rubyscubepackage even02:56
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DCGrendelmjelva: the live cd? theres an icon on the desktop02:56
BadkittyZarephath... I've seen this. i think mine is the WMP54G v.4 which is supported green02:56
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rus1Hey, I'm trying to install a phpBB2 message board on my Ubuntu server, and when it tries to send an email (when registering a user) it says it failed sending an email. Looking on Google, it looks like I need to enable sendmail in PHP. Anyone know how to do this?02:56
mjelvaDCGrendel: i have to do it via commandline02:56
Zarephathmjelva: Just reboot...make sure your bios has boot from cdrom enabled...02:56
mjelvai'm already booted from the CD, damn it02:56
bimberiubuntu_newb: once you're installed you install the linux-686-smp package to take advantage of your processor02:56
brentcoolhey guys, I just applied updates to my mom's computer and her firefox logo went from the globe to the OFFICIAL firefox logo...did Debain/Ubuntu finally agree to Mozilla's terms?02:56
agentdoes anyone know what exact command/program finds out when is the appropriate time to do a fsck on boot?02:56
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ZarephathBadkitty: Then the rest is simple..just follow the instructions on the wiki step by step...02:57
DCGrendelmjelva: uhm, maybe you should have used the alternative cd?02:57
mjelvaDCGrendel: there was only one available that i saw02:57
ZarephathDCGrendel: Enlighten me please..what is this cd?02:57
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BadkittyI've tried.. Hold on.. Let me get the tools installed and then see where we are at02:57
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ZarephathBadkitty do a lspci and it will tell you for sure what card linux sees...02:58
mjelvaDCGrendel: ah, okay. there i see it.02:58
jribCAsurfer: there are a few hits on the forums with your same problem, looking through them now02:58
rancorusHi, i have ubuntu on my machine and i want to also install winxp, is there any documentation out there on how to do that ?02:58
mjelvaso you're saying me i can't install from this cd? then what the hell is the point with it?02:58
DCGrendelmjelva, Zarephath: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/   3rd set listed02:58
bimberi!dualboot | rancorus02:58
uboturancorus: Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:58
ianmacgregorbrentcool: I just checked updates, none, and I still have the globe icon in the menus02:58
mjelvaDCGrendel: you can't install from commandline if you're using the first CD?02:58
mjelvawhat kind of retarded shit is that?02:58
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brentcoolianmacgregor, then that's weird....It happened on an Edgy desktop02:59
jribCAsurfer: can you check that you have vmware-player-kernel-modules for your current kernel?  It seems you need that for the vmnet module02:59
Zarephathrancorus: Download the free VMWare server and install windows..then run it in a virtual environment...you can't play hard core games however..02:59
spdfmjelva, you have to download the alternet iso02:59
DCGrendelmjelva you probably can, i just don't know how02:59
Dominus_Suusdoes anybody know how to fix a USB mouse that randomly cuts out and restarts?02:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:59
mjelvafuck this02:59
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mjelva"just works" my ass02:59
mjelvathis is ridiculous02:59
ianmacgregorbrentcool: Ahh, ok, this channel is for 6.06, which is what I have02:59
DCGrendelmjelva: for most people, it does.02:59
mjelvaa linux distro that doesn't let you manage it from commandline02:59
brentcoolok whats the Edgy channel?02:59
mjelvathat's fucking amazing02:59
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:59
LjL!language > mjelva02:59
rancorusZarephath: Honestly I have tried installing vmware but i never managed to get it to work02:59
Badkittyits ubuntu+102:59
brentcoolOk thanks Badkitty02:59
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Badkittysure np02:59
mjelvafuck this03:00
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DCGrendelmjelva: atleast it boots on your machine, I've got to make a special cd for my system cause *noone* wants to put bootloaders for oldworld macs on cds anymore03:00
ink251another one bites the dust03:00
Zarephathrancorus: All you have to do is create a symlink to the path and make it think it is where it is looking...(HINT)03:00
ink251patience is something you need a lot of working with linux03:00
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Dominus_Suusmjelva has a point, though, it doesn't 'just work' it takes a real belief in it03:00
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DCGrendeland the -- at the end of the kernel commandline for the installer makes the append entry too big for the bootloader i'm using03:01
CAsurferjrib, it seems I already have that package.03:01
rancorusZarephath: Everytime i try to install vmware-player in the terminal i get an error message03:01
BadkittyZarephath...My card doesn't show up on the list...03:01
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CAsurferjrib, kind of odd that I don't seem to have the module03:01
jribCAsurfer: did you make sure the one for your current kernel is installed?03:01
Alakazamz0rim getting these for my girlfriend: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.1458069503:01
Alakazamz0rthat way when we're in bed... it'll be a linux turn on too03:02
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chukeI think i deleted nautilus, how can I get it back?03:02
Bladelessneed help for install, i cant do install from the live cd... it fails to load x03:02
CAsurferjrib, how do I check that?03:02
Badkittyok well it does03:02
Dominus_Suusalakazmz0r. just don't start confusing your girlfriend with your computer :P03:02
DCGrendelAlakazamz0r: be glad they arnt making those in childrens sizes, like cough Amber Combie cough03:02
CientificoLocojrib, I have done but it does not work03:02
jribchuke: why do you think you deleted nautilus?  How do you think you did this?  What does 'nautilus' in a terminal do?03:02
Bladelessso i try doing from text mode03:03
jribCientificoLoco: is sun-java5-plugin installed?03:03
Bladelessbut i just get more problems :S03:03
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rus1Hey, I'm trying to install a phpBB2 message board on my Ubuntu server, and when it tries to send an email (when registering a user) it says it failed sending an email. Looking on Google, it looks like I need to enable sendmail in PHP. Anyone know how to do this?03:03
CientificoLocojrib, yes it is03:03
jribCientificoLoco: close all instances of firefox and open it again03:03
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Dominus_Suuscan anyone help me with my problematic USB mouse?03:04
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Thirstehrus1, you might simply have to just start the sendmail service03:04
nutry joining a php channel03:04
BadkittyZarephath...Is there supposed to be a wmaster0 and a wlan0??03:04
tichcan someone help me to get beryl to work?03:04
rus1nu, can you tell me how to start the sendmail service?03:04
nudoes mail(to, subject, etc, etc) give you an SMTP error?03:04
TreznorGood evening, all.  Anyone have experience getting sounds to work in an IBM T42?  This is a fresh install, upgraded from Dapper.03:04
jribCAsurfer: 'uname -r' should tell you the current kernel you are running, then see if vmware-player-kernel-modules-$(uname -r) is installed03:04
jorikwhats a good secure ftp server ?03:04
Thirstehjorik, proftpd or wuftpd03:04
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ThirstehI prefer proftpd03:04
nurus1: i don't remember how. I'm sure google could find you an answer. if not, you could join a php channel on irc03:05
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Thirstehwuftpd is simpler tho03:05
nuit's not hard, i remember that03:05
ink251very secure ftp daemon03:05
jorikit needs to be easy to setup  (just give ppl access to their ~ with their passw)03:05
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Thirstehjorik, prolly what ink251 said if you want it to be "very secure" :D03:05
CAsurferjrib, I'll be back in a few minutes, I need to go help a friend03:06
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ink251how much do SCSI tape drives go for these days?03:06
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jribCAsurfer: sure03:06
WeaZeLb0yI had windows installed on a pc my dvd drive worked fine, I installed Ubuntu to dual boot, the installation worked, but now after I boot into Ubuntu or Windows neither recognize my DVD drive...I think it has to do something with booting with GRUB...anyone have any ideas?03:06
jorikits used by kernel.org ... so i guess it'll do :o)03:06
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mighty_falconhmmm i just built kino 0.9.2 from source but when i launch kino now it still sais 0.8.0 which is the version i installed from apt-get03:06
CientificoLocojrib, does not work I have installed java since I refresh my laptop03:07
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mighty_falconhow do i get it to run 0.9.2? anyone?03:07
jribmighty_falcon: how did you install the kino you built?03:07
palomerquick, someone remind me how to search for a file name in a directory tree03:07
mighty_falconjrib: just ./configure , make, sudo make install03:07
jribmighty_falcon: did kino get installed to /usr/local?03:07
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tichhas anyone had any luck with beryl?03:07
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Dominus_Suuspalomer: find -name <file name>03:08
mighty_falconjrib: from the msgs printed it seems so yes03:08
jribCientificoLoco: does /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist?03:08
thorpalomer: 'find / -name <filename>03:08
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rlaredhey all. . . i'm dual booting right now and i was wondering if there is a way to run the windows partition under ubuntu?03:08
jribmighty_falcon: does /usr/local/bin/kino  work?03:08
chukeso yeah, how do I get nautilus back03:08
rlaredi don't want to have to reinstall windows under vmware really03:08
adiabattyHi, I've configured a new logfile that outputs to /var/log/foo.log, and it seems to be rotating files on a daily basis, and keeping only four archived logs (not what I'd expect given "weekly\nrotate 4 in /etc/logrotate.conf). Is there anyplace else that might have log rotation settings, other than /etc/logrotate.d/?03:08
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brainotich: i had some luck with it, very nice03:08
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ink251tich: its awesome03:08
TreznorIs there a channel for support for Edgy Eft?03:08
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mighty_falconjrib: it sure does, oke ty ! :)03:09
jribTreznor: #ubuntu+103:09
CientificoLocojrib, no it does not03:09
ianmacgregorTreznor: #ubuntu+103:09
TreznorThank you.03:09
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HeritzHello guys, do you have any source to download "Bluefish" on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?03:09
tichbraino, ink251, did you just follow the wiki instructions to set it up?03:09
ink251hold on ill get what worked for me03:09
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ink251i dont think it was wikipedia03:09
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ink251wait, do you have an nvidia card?03:09
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Dominus_SuusHeritz, are you talking about the .deb binary?03:09
jribCientificoLoco: what is the output of:  dpkg -l sun-java5-plugin | grep ^ii03:09
brainoI don't recall, but i have an nvidia card03:09
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB03:09
HeritzYeah, or at least the source to download it using Synaptic03:10
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skelterCan anyone give me some tips on how I'd go about recompiling my kernel for framebuffer support?03:10
HeritzI am not getting it on Synaptic, dunno why.03:10
ianmacgregorHeritz: It's in the universe repo03:10
ink251tich: what type of graphics card do you have03:10
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB03:10
ianmacgregorHeritz: Enable universe03:10
tichink251, nvidia03:10
ink251ok hold up03:10
Dominus_Suusanyone can help me with my USB mouse yet?03:11
ink251does the light flicker when it dies?03:11
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grndslmanybody use stardict??03:13
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CientificoLocojrib, grep?? for what?03:13
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jribCientificoLoco: that exact command like I typed it after the :03:14
ink251tich: i tried for hours and the only guide that worked for me is http://dev.tufuncion.com/xgl-nvidia-ubuntu-apt-get03:14
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CientificoLocojrib, ii  sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-06-1     The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.003:14
tichink251, okay i'll check that out.03:15
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chukeOk, so: My sound stopped working. Whenever i would do anything sound related ubuntu would tell me that certain Gstreamer or alsa plugins were missing. The people on the forums told me I should use the package manager to reinstall everything relating to those two, then restart. Nothing happened. They then told me 'completely remove' all Gstreamer and Alsa stuff then reinstall all of them. Now when I turn my computer on I get to t03:15
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jribCientificoLoco: 'locate libjavaplugin.so'03:15
jbmigelis that xgl stuff supposed to be in default sid er the new one?03:15
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CientificoLocojrib,  what do I have to do?03:16
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brainotich: I may have used this site: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit03:16
jribCientificoLoco: just type: locate libjavaplugin.so03:16
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:16
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ink251braino: have you tried any of the beryl themes or any modifications to the settings?03:16
CientificoLocojrib, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:17
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brainoi don't have it going anymore, but i did modify the themes through that emerald manager i believe03:17
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jribCientificoLoco: type: file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so03:18
tichbraino, it seems to me that xfce's window manager takes over.03:18
jmworxWho should I talk to if I want to get the "speex" package removed from amd64 Dapper. It's always been broken despite a patch being posted 6 months ago. Considering nobody's interested in fixing the problem, I request the package to be removed (I'm the Speex maintained).03:18
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CAsurferjrib, I wasn't able to find the kernel for which my version of vmware was installed03:19
brainotich: takes over when? When you start it from gdm?03:19
CientificoLocojrib, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so'03:19
CientificoLocojrib, so..03:19
jribCientificoLoco: http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml does this page say you have java?03:20
atticstormGuys, have you seen in Gnome on laptops that there are often blue lines across the buttons?  I do not see it on the KDE side, on on the Gnome side, and will two differnt laptops.03:20
chukewell, i'll just try later then03:20
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tichright after i choose beryl in the "select window manager" area. it even says it is using beryl but it is not. (unless it doesn't change anything003:21
JonBoonwhat does this error mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27916/03:21
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brainohmm, that may be what it uses as your fallback WM, but that wouldn't be the default (metacity is the default fallback wm)03:22
sethkJonbo, not an error03:22
CientificoLocojrib, it said that I jave installed java but firefox says that need the plugin03:22
sethkJonbo, it means just what it says, that there is no reference key to compare this key against.03:22
JonBoonim trying to use easyubuntu to install codecs and i get that03:22
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sethkJonBoon, it's not a problem03:22
HeritzOK, thanks guys I got the Bluefish installed with the Universe thing that you said. Thanks again.03:22
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jribCientificoLoco: you have java plugin working then, what page make firefox tell you this message?03:22
atticstormUpdate on the blue lines on Gnome buttons issue, they disapear when the mouse pointer is waived over them - the focus touches them.03:23
JonBooni dont have sound on sites like youtube or other java sites though03:23
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tichbraino, i don't have metacity installed because i use xfce (xubuntu)03:23
sethkJonBoon, it's a pseudo-security thing.  You must have seen it before, either "certificate can't be verified" or key can't be verified.03:23
La_PaRCa!es > CientificoLoco03:23
jribJonBoon: youtube uses flash, not java03:23
sethkJonBoon, that message is not related to your sound problem03:23
JonBooni mean flash, sorry03:23
brainotich: ya, the guides will probably be different for you then.. you might want to find one for xfce, but I have never tried that. sorry03:23
carrera594who are the Admins here i need a lot of help03:23
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sethkJonbo, sorry, tab completion.03:23
ikarugahi all. I'm to get my tv out to work. The bios screen shows up on the tv out, but once the x-server kicks in, I get a blank screen. How do i cycle thru the available screen resolutions for the tv?03:24
CientificoLocojrib, I no idea03:24
JonBoonok so how do i get flash sound?03:24
CientificoLocoI do not have idea03:24
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jribclaviola: well does it tell you the message if you go to www.google.com for example?03:24
jribubotu: tell JonBoon about flash03:24
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MrProper_JonBoon, did you fix your flash problem?03:25
carrera594does anyone have a WG121 Wireless Adpter working with a WEP enabled router03:25
JonBoonno, not yet03:25
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jribJonBoon: for your apt gpg key problem: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ .  Altough you may want to contact #easyubuntu about it03:25
JonBooni dont know why it wont work, mp3s and the such play fine03:25
ubuntu_newbThe i386 version of Ubuntu will work with my Intel Core 2 Duo system?03:26
Dr_willis    ubuntu_newb yes03:26
cycomubuntu_newb: should...03:26
MrProper_JonBoon, ok change the following in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc03:26
ubuntu_newbok, I thought that would be the x86 version though03:26
Dr_willisunless you are refering to an Mac. :P not sure about them03:26
MrProper_JonBoon, FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"03:26
MrProper_JonBoon: close firefox completely03:26
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rubyscubewhen I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??03:26
JonBoonim pretty new to linux, so you'll have to give me more detailed instructions :D03:26
Dr_willisubuntu_newb,  where are you finding these different versions?03:26
MrProper_JonBoon, i had to restart to get it to work for me03:26
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Dr_willisx86 is for the  i386 - or am i missing somthing here.. :)03:27
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ubuntu_newbhmm, I think I'm just confuxed03:28
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jribJonBoon: the restricted wiki page has detailed instructions03:28
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ubuntu_newbDr_willis: you are correct03:29
ubuntu_newbsorry, I was confused03:29
Flannelrubyscube: there are no beryl packages in ubuntu repositories, so... I dont know what you're trying to do03:29
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ubuntu_newbNow, if only I could get rid of my windows system for good03:29
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Dr_willisubuntu_newb,  all it takes is one good virus and it gets rid of itself.03:29
Thirstehubuntu_newb, if/when you do get it installed, be sure to upgrade to the linux-686-SMP kernel, since it takes advantage of some of the newer CPU features, and is based on the 686 architecture, rather than 38603:30
ubuntu_newbThat's why I want to get rid of it03:30
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FlannelThirsteh: -SMP kernels don't exist as of dapper, it's in all kernels on arches that support it03:30
rubyscubeFlannel: aha! that explains it :P .. I read the how-to in the forums, and they gave the impression that an apt-get install beryl should actually yield some results. If you have the time, could you tell me my alternatives? Just install from source??03:30
ubuntu_newbI have a desktop (800mhz AMD Duron) running suse linux 10.1 and it never needs to be rebooted03:30
ThirstehFlannel, I see, I didn't know that. Thank you :)03:30
ubuntu_newbit's been running for over 1 month now03:30
BadkittyQuestion. Im trying to install some dependencies for network-manager-gnome.. and one is installing but saying it is not installed... in synaptic it shows it but it doesn't have the logo next to it.. what doesd this mean?03:31
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ubuntu_newbI've already had to reinstall my windows system since the time I powered on the suse system lol03:31
Flannelrubyscube: I have no idea.  If there's a howto, they probably mention which repositories they have, or whatever.  You could try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl, they might be able to better address the issue03:31
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FlannelBadkitty: the logo is stuff supported fully by ubuntu (in main) if it doesn't, it's either in universe, or multiverse03:31
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gop_I can't seem to see why I get grub erro 1703:32
jmworxWho should I talk to if I want to get the "speex" package removed from amd64 Dapper? It's always been broken despite a patch being posted 6 months ago. Considering nobody's interested in fixing the problem, I request the package to be removed (I'm the Speex maintained).03:32
BadkittySo it doesn't mean it shouldn't work just because there is not a logo?03:32
rubyscubeFlannel: yep, as I said.. I have added the beerorkid repository, and nothing there either.. and that's supposed to be the official beryl source. The #beryl channel is totally dead.. I'll try #ubuntu-xgl. Thanks man :)03:32
claviolajrib: I'm sorry?03:33
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jribclaviola: sorry, name completion error03:33
jmworxhi adiabatty03:33
FlannelBadkitty: nope.  No logo doesn't mean broken, just not fully supported (supported by the community, instead of by canonical)03:33
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jmworxadiabatty: can you do anything for me here?03:33
moghiya how do i force my wireless nic to come up as another device , from eth2 to wlan0 for example03:33
Flannelrubyscube: er... beerorkid is the automatix repository, you're looking for trouble if you're using automatix.03:33
adiabattyjmworx: Not likely; I just dropped in to ask a question...03:33
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jmworxOh, OK.03:34
mogi set it in modprobe.d/aliases03:34
BadkittyOk, so the package I am trying to install is libgnutsls12 which requires libtas1-2... bu when i install it, libgnutsls12 still asks for it03:34
gop_so what a good way of fixing grub error 1703:34
Alakazamz0rare Xeon chips 64bit?03:34
Flanneljmworx: speex is in universe, you should talk to the individual package maintainer, he may not know the patch exists, or whatnot.  Alternatively, you can ask the MOTU.03:34
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dfcarneysome xeon processors are03:35
jmworxFlannel: Any link?03:35
utnubuanyone know where i could find drivers for a dell photo printer 720 on ubuntu03:35
dfcarneyjust google for it03:35
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utnubui have been03:35
jribubotu: tell utnubu about printing03:35
utnubulinuxprinting.org didnt have any03:35
Flanneljmworx: maintainer is: Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>  so, email them, I suppose.03:36
jributnubu: try similar models03:36
mrbond82alakazamor - the new ones are03:36
Dr_willisutnubu,  find out who really makes that printer.. dell most likely is just sticking their name on it.03:36
normeoEkushey: just downloading the ubuntu desktop cd for what feels like the 20th time03:36
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cogitatushay. what's the easiest way to run ubuntu with no x?03:36
jributnubu: dells are like lexmarks so try those too03:36
krazykitafaik, dell rebrands lexmark printers a lot03:36
jmworxFlannel: I don't get it. How is the ubuntu package maintained by Debian people?03:36
ink251install debian03:36
clearzenCan anyone tell me how I would set up Cron jobs?03:36
cogitatusshould i just boot to failsafe?03:36
jbmigel_man cron03:37
jrib!cron | clearzen03:37
ubotuclearzen: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm03:37
mrbond82can anyone tell me how to fix my xgl compiz so that the windows have borders and title bars on them??03:37
jmworxFlannel: The bug is actually fixed in the Debian universe (and even Edgy) BTW. It's Dapper that's broken.03:37
Flanneljmworx: because ubuntu is based on debian, a lot of packages are identical (or almost) between the two.  If it's just in dapper, and fixed in edgy...03:37
ink251mrbond, change the theme03:37
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ink251some themes dont have borders03:37
Flanneljmworx: I don'tknow, ask the MOTU about getting the fix put into dapper, since it's a LTS, they should do it.03:37
jmworxFlannel: Link for MOTU?03:37
Flanneljmworx: You'd have to ask them for details, Im not really sure how you'd go about it03:37
normeoanyone have some good knowledge of the 6.06 ubuntu desktop cd and why it won't launch the install?03:38
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docmuranyone here use or know the program oregano03:38
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Flanneljmworx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU03:38
CAsurferjrib, I got it to work. It was just a matter of getting vmware modules that were the same version of my kernel. Thanks for the tip.03:38
Flannelmrbond82: #ubuntu-xgl03:38
jribCAsurfer: great03:38
dfcarneymog: sorry, i don't know.  but i'm curious -- why do you want to change the interface name?03:39
jmworxFlannel: Thanks03:39
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jorikwhats a good console torrent client ?03:40
mogit just bugs me, esp as i thought changing the aliases did this03:40
ink251just dont use the gnome frontend03:40
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jorikoh ok03:41
tymolyhow about azureus?03:41
mrbond82flannel - no one available on that channel :(03:41
nuQuestion: My desktop shows the SDA1 harddrive(windows). How do i get rid of it? (without unmounting)03:41
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Flannelmrbond82: try #xgl as well03:41
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jribnu: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible in gconf-editor03:43
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mrbond82has anyone got xgl and compiz working ?03:46
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_ian_what do i need to do so thaty ubuntu saves my opened programs when i shutdown... just like kubuntu03:47
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ink251ian, i dont know but i would be interested in that too03:48
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_ian_hmmm thnx03:48
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jrib_ian_: system > preferences > sessions03:48
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_ian_anyway will support for 5.10 suddenly be gone.... because i am having problems with 6.06.... im using 5.10 now i tried installing both kubuntu and ubutu 6.06 but my ethernet card cant be detected...03:49
Flannel_ian_: 5.10 is supported for 18 months03:49
nujrib:  thanks alot. let me try. (sorry for the delayed answer, was googling too)03:49
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jbmigel_freebsd is awesome im a fan too03:50
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nuAlso, how do i take a screenshot with console?03:51
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ablyssnu, use the import command03:52
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jbmigel_nu you cant get what you need with output redirection?03:53
xTERMiNATORHi friends03:53
nujbmigel_: no idea. i haven't tried anything.03:53
PumpkinPieIm new to ubuntu.. is there apt-get? and by in large its like debian?03:53
nui don't know how to use the import method03:54
jribPumpkinPie: yes, yes03:54
FlannelPumpkinPie: yes, ubuntu uses apt-get03:54
xTERMiNATORI too a new to Ubuntu03:54
ablyssnu, like this --> import -window root screenshot.jpg03:54
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jribubotu: tell PumpkinPie about repos03:54
FlannelPumpkinPie: but, If youre using the desktop, Synaptic is the GUI version03:54
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ablyssmay have to install import first though03:54
jbmigel_nu well if you run your command with a > and a filename after it, all the output will goto that file eg "mycommand > saveme"03:54
xTERMiNATORcan anyone help me?03:55
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:55
xTERMiNATORok sorry03:55
nuablyss: it said "import: command not found"03:55
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nujbmigel_: does that go for all programs too?03:55
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jribnu: install imagemagick03:55
ablyssnu, enable universe rep in synaptic and find it03:55
ablyssor what jrib said03:56
jbmigel_nu anything you run at command line you can save the output to file... then open it with your favorite editor03:56
nueither one will do?03:56
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nujbmigel_: thanks.03:56
ablyssimport is part of imagemagick shell commands03:56
gop_anay here know how to fix grub error 1703:56
jbmigel_nu np03:56
gop_the ubuntu help page has no information03:57
BadkittyIm about to throwmy wireless card into the trash?!!? Can anyone recommend a wireless lan card that *WORKS* with edgy?03:57
Flannelgop_: depends on what you did to break it ;)  reinstalling grub will always fix it though03:57
FlannelBadkitty: #ubuntu+1 for edgy people03:57
gop_I am booted on th elive cd03:57
MorningWoodmy intel 2200 works perfectly03:57
gop_flannel I just installed ubuntu some hours ago03:57
gop_rebooted with out the cd03:57
gop_and got error 1703:57
xTERMiNATORI wanted to move a folder to /usr/lib03:57
gop_then I booted back again with my cd03:57
xTERMiNATORbut it's not allowing me03:57
Flannelgop_: ah, sounds like grub didn't get installed correctly.03:57
Flannel!tell gop_ about grub03:58
gop_and i checked groot=(hd2,2)03:58
FlannelxTERMiNATOR: use sudo to copy it03:58
MorningWooddoes anyone here have ubuntu running on a gateway laptop?03:58
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xTERMiNATORok will try03:58
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jribxTERMiNATOR: what are you trying to do exactly?  It sounds like there may be a better option03:58
xTERMiNATORI am trying to install some plugins for Eclipse IDE03:59
MorningWoodor that might be able to help me with the function key volume/brightness status display?03:59
xTERMiNATORso I have a folder named 'eclipse' on my desktop03:59
gop_flannel groot=(hd2,2)03:59
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tnncwhat is the best way to add hardware to ubuntu after install is done03:59
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jbmigel_tnnc what sort of hardware?03:59
xTERMiNATORI want to copy the contents of that to /usr/lib/eclipse03:59
tnncsound card and video card04:00
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noxxleafter installing firestarter firewall i could not launch a program called news rover with Wine. I tried uninstalling firestarter but it still doesnt launch. Does firestarter leave some configurations behind??04:00
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jbmigel_tnnc for video you will have to update your xorg.conf file telling it what new vid driver to use04:01
ablyssnoxxle, instead of removing firestarter, just disable it04:01
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jribxTERMiNATOR: I don't use eclipse, but can't you use a directory in HOME like ~/.eclipse maybe?  Or at least use /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib, that's reserved for the package manager04:01
_ian_if i create a user and tick on admin prvileges that new user can also access sudo right/04:01
jbmigel_tnnc im not sure about sound, maybe a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base will do it04:01
Flannel_ian_: right04:01
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xTERMiNATORjrib, shall I pm you?04:02
tnncjbmigel thanks04:02
Flannelgop_: where is your /boot partition?04:02
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jribxTERMiNATOR: it's better to just talk here, that way everyone can help04:02
xTERMiNATORok :)04:02
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xTERMiNATORI actually don't know how to install the plugins04:02
xTERMiNATORso, I searched for the eclipse folder and found it in /usr/lib04:02
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noxxleablyss how do i disable it04:03
jribxTERMiNATOR: well first did you check if the plugins were in the repositories?04:03
xTERMiNATORso tried copying04:03
noxxlealso is avahi daemon supposed to be on by default04:03
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xTERMiNATORhow to check?04:03
ablyssnoxxle, in the firestarter panel.. there's a big on/off button04:03
jribxTERMiNATOR: have you enabled universe?04:03
xTERMiNATORsorry to ask all these, I am real new into Ubuntu :(04:03
baxter_kylieHi. Is a partition for LVM extended or primary?04:03
noxxleablyss i tried that, didnt work04:03
noxxleits still blocking ports04:03
noxxlei uninstalled clamav and that also is still listed as a startup item04:04
jribxTERMiNATOR: np, that's what this channel is for.  Just search for 'eclipse plug' in synaptic.  That turns up a few hits here04:04
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noxxlestupid automatix04:04
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ablyssnoxxle, firestarter doesn't block ports by default.. did you tell it to block ports?04:04
xTERMiNATORI will try04:04
knapperstupid manualmatix04:04
Chm0dhopefully i will be able to see what I am writing.  I tried installing compiz which totally fubared everything up and most of the times any writiing is like gone.  is there a roll back feature for ubuntu or anything of the sort?04:04
noxxleno i didnt04:05
nuubuntu doesn't support fluxbox, does it?04:05
xTERMiNATORlikewise, how do you install a .bin file?04:05
noxxleis the avahi daemon safe?04:05
xTERMiNATORI have downloaded such a file for real player04:05
ablyssnoxxle, try to telnet to your news group, like telnet <IP> <port> and see what happens04:05
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noxxledunno their ip, but i can use it in windows xp04:06
xTERMiNATORthank you very much jrib :)04:06
xTERMiNATORI got the exact plugin there04:06
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Flannelnu: fluxbox is in universe04:06
jribxTERMiNATOR: usually you will want to use the repositories instead since it will help you manage your software from a central location (and you are pretty sure the package won't break things).  realplayer is actually available in the repositories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods04:06
noxxlewhat is the point of firestarter anyway? i thought linux didnt need firewall04:06
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ablyssnoxxle, maybe reinstall firestarter and enable the ports04:06
Flannelnoxxle: firestarter is just a frontend to iptables, the firewall built into linux04:07
xTERMiNATORso I have to just add:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods to the repository list04:07
gop_those insturction say nothing about error 1704:07
jbmigel_noxxle why would linux not need a firewall?04:07
jribxTERMiNATOR: no, you have to click on that link and read it :)04:07
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xTERMiNATORok thank you very much for spending your valuable time for me :)04:07
jribxTERMiNATOR: np04:07
gop_I went to the link flannel it gives vague idea04:07
Bladelessive installed ubuntu from text mode but x wont load for some reason04:08
Bladelesshow do i fix this?04:08
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xTERMiNATORby the way, how do you boot directly to text mode?04:08
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xTERMiNATORrather than the GUI?04:08
Flannelgop_: right, like I said, reinstalling WILL fix it regardless.  What partition is /boot on?04:08
jbmigel_Bladeless have your installed gnome-desktop or something04:08
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Bladelessx doesnt load it just generates errors04:08
gop_flannel how does one go by reinstalling it04:08
jribBladeless: maybe someone can help if you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:09
gop_do I go in to the grub shell04:09
jbmigel_Bladeless like what kind of errors04:09
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Flannelgop_: that first page talks about reinstalling it (the reinstalling after windows one)04:09
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xTERMiNATOR https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods led me to a page without contents04:09
jbmigel_Bladeless dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg04:10
gop_what the url to that page04:10
Flannel!tell gop_ about grub04:10
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jribxTERMiNATOR: it's loading here, try refresh?04:10
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FlannelxTERMiNATOR: it redirects you to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods04:11
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xTERMiNATORgot it now04:11
jbmigel_Bladeless ya man it will fix your xorg settings04:11
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xTERMiNATORhow to boot into text mode?04:11
Bladelessthe error is no screens found, and just displays foreign characters04:11
xTERMiNATORwithout entering the GUI?04:11
xarqwith the latest update to dapper, I am unable to mount my SD card which is normally at /dev/sda1... any ideas which /dev it has moved to?04:11
jbmigel_Bladeless dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg04:11
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jbmigel_Bladeless sorry its like this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
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capiCrimmI want to open xmms with crontab, but I get an error saying unable to open the display?04:13
jsherlockjust installed amarok 1.4.3 and mp3's will only play when amarok is started with root, anyone know what permissions i should check on?04:13
james296how can I get the wallpaper and spplash screen that was originally for version 6.10?04:13
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capiCrimmI can't think of a workaround... :\04:13
baxter_kylieLVM help needed... anyone?04:13
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ablysscapiCrimm, maybe try xmms-shell04:14
noexAnyone have a second for a quick question? If I am trying to write a audio cd from mp3s, on Serpentine, which GStreamer plugin do I need?04:14
ksaok my question is how to install apache2 when i try to install it i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6... how do i install this04:14
rbiljsherlock ... do a /join #amarok    ... and talk to the guys in Amarok04:14
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MorningWoodhello, I was wondering if someone could help me with that might be able to help me with the function key volume/brightness status display on my laptop?04:15
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liberviscoso, would you guys say it's now quite safe to upgrade to edgy RC?04:15
xTERMiNATORnot sure ksa, but try sudo apt-get install libc604:15
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jsherlockcapiCrimm: xport DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/xmms04:15
liberviscoany unexpected bugs?04:15
MorningWood the brightness is changed via function key and whenever it is changed, in windows it popped up a little blue status window alerting the user of how bright the lcd is. In ubuntu it pops up but is all distorted. It's a gateway m360 laptop.04:15
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jsherlockcapiCrimm, *export04:15
jsherlockrbil, thanks04:15
ksaok my question is how to install apache2 when i try to install it i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6... how do i install this04:16
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Flannellibervisco: #ubuntu+104:16
xTERMiNATORnot sure ksa, but try sudo apt-get install libc604:16
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Clinton__ksa: make sure you've done upgrade and dist-upgrade first04:16
liberviscook thx Flannel04:16
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ksaClinton__: whats dist-upgrade04:17
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Bladelessi tried your command still same error generated :S04:17
some_guywho here is good with beryl04:18
Bladelessim using an ati x70004:18
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james296so how can I get the Edgy splash screen and wallpaper?04:18
james296FOR Edgy?04:18
Flanneljames296: they should be there.  ask in #ubuntu+104:18
xarqjames296: might be on gnome-look.org04:18
ksaxTERMiNATOR: i tryed that and did not work04:18
ksaClinton__: whats dist-upgrade04:18
xTERMiNATORsorry :(04:19
xarqksa: it's a command for apt-get04:19
ksaitso k04:19
james296they are not they were removed04:19
Flanneljames296: ask in #ubuntu+104:19
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ksahow do i make sure i have done dist-upgrade first04:19
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braskowhere is a good pastebin?04:20
jbmigel_ksa you should really know if you did that04:20
Joetheoddksa: type sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade in a terminal04:20
nujbmigel_: more questions about screenshots for you04:20
nuhow do i make it so it takes the screenshot in a given # of seconds04:20
ksajbmigel_:  i go E: Sense dist is not understood, try true or false.04:21
rbilnu install KSnapshot ... very easy to use and you can time snapshots04:21
some_guyanyone good with beryl? (ati mobility radeon 9200)04:21
agentwhat function in python is used to execute (and get the results of) a program?04:21
nurbil: thanks. but can it be done with import also?04:21
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nuyou just type04:22
rbilnu, what's import?04:22
nupython filename.py04:22
braskoanyone seen this error before?04:22
Flannelsome_guy: ask in #beryl04:22
braskohappens with nxclient to xubuntu04:22
gop_is it a problem if / and /boot are in the same partion04:22
Flannelgop_: no04:22
jribagent: see the reference for popen (#pyhton is better for these questions)04:22
nurbil: import is what i use to take screenshots. (import -window root name.jpg)04:22
jbmigel_gop_ but if one gets corrupted it will take the other with it not being seperate04:22
agentnu: i mean, in a python script :) function as in open(), etc.04:22
agentjrib: thank you04:23
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rbilnu, well you're doing it in the cli then.04:23
gop_I am so confused at this stage04:23
rbilnu, using imagemagick?04:23
Flannelgop_: what partition is /boot on04:23
ksais there a way to install all the web server stuff on to the desktop version04:23
nurbil:  yes04:23
rbilksa, of course04:23
gop_flannel /dev/hdd304:23
Flannelgop_: that's hd(3,2) not (2,2)04:23
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rbilnu, do you want to use the cli to capture screen shots?04:24
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ksarbil how do i do it04:24
nurbil: yes04:24
gop_so go back to menu04:24
rbilnu, in a full screen terminal? no idea, sorry. I thought you wanted to capture from desktop04:24
JavaDeveloperHi, any DVD burning software that burns MDS image?04:25
JoetheoddTry doing help export04:25
gop_k I did hd(3,2)04:25
nurbil: np. thanks04:25
gop_flannel thanks04:25
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gop_that should be it right04:25
JoetheoddYou may have to install an imagemagic package, I don't recall it's name but you can search on packages.google.com, I think.04:25
Flannelgop_: yeah04:25
gop_I bbl04:25
gop_flannel thanks04:25
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gop_so know umount /dev/hdd304:25
gop_and reboot04:25
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cafuegoJavaDeveloper: alcohol for windows04:26
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ksahow do i install all the programs form the server version to the desk top version easy04:26
noexAnyone know why Serpentine might not allow me to burn a audio cd from mp3's? I downloaded the GStreamer MAD plugin. Any ideas?04:26
Flannelgop_: er... no?  just change in the grub menu04:26
JavaDevelopercafuego: I guess I am asking for Linux04:26
jbmigel_bruenig packages.ubuntu.com04:26
gop_yes I did that04:26
snook353what is the best compression/archive format?04:26
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gop_I changed from 2,2 and pressed save04:26
Flannelgop_: right, that's it.04:26
gop_I did gkesudo /boot/menu.lst or what ever04:26
cafuegosnook353: Depends on your data; bzip2 is pretty good.04:26
gop_flannel so shoudl I reboot from the live cd04:26
snook353ok, thanks cafuego04:26
cafuegoJavaDeveloper: none that I know of04:27
gop_ brb04:27
ksawhats the best and fastest way install all the programs form the server version to the desk top version04:27
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JavaDevelopercafuego: you must be joking....no software burns MDS image in linux?  but anyway, if that is the case, thanks for you information though,.04:27
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jbmigel_ksa sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop04:27
ksau have desk top04:28
JavaDevelopercafuego: no offense, but just sounds weird to me....hehehe...04:28
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noexAnyone able to help fill me in?04:29
Flannelksa: the server version doesn't have any special software04:29
cafuegoJavaDeveloper: Well, afaik it's a file format spectific to windoze apps... even more specifixally designed to handle copy protection ..  this is just not an issue on Linux... so there may not be a large need.04:29
ksaflannel im just a noob and i have no idea what i need04:30
krazykitJavaDeveloper: i think there's an mds2iso somewhere04:30
JavaDevelopercafuego: ic....04:30
ksai tryed putting a desk top on the server one and i cant04:30
ksanot desk top04:30
Flannelksa: there's nothing preventing you from doing so04:30
JavaDeveloperkrazykit: how about if I have the ISO for DVD? what software is available in linux?04:30
ksaa GUI04:30
cafuegoJavaDeveloper: Note: I may bve completely wrong :-)04:30
ksai just dont know how04:30
krazykitJavaDeveloper: if you have the iso, you can burn it with whatever.  i like k3b04:30
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bruenigJavaDeveloper, to burn an iso, you can just write click on it and select write to disc, nautilus will burn it04:31
Flannelksa: we've told you: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and then you'll want to change the kernel.  If you have the desktop CD already, just reinstall, it'll be eaiser04:31
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JavaDeveloperbruenig: sounds good...thank you guys...04:31
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ksaim running desktop04:31
jbmigel_ksa just start with the desktop cd then everything will be there for you. no need to start as server install unless your ready04:31
Flannelksa: then, you're done.  What other software do you want?04:32
ksai just dont know how to install all the programs that server has04:32
Flannelksa: "server" has no special programs.  What are you looking for?04:32
ksaits not like windows were i can ezley find the files04:32
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ksafor one04:32
rbilksa, what does the server have? you talking about LAMP?04:32
Flannel!tell ksa about lamp04:32
bruenigksa, the desktop has everything the server has and then more unless you are looking for LAMP04:32
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.04:33
Flannelksa: that page tells you how to install the LAMP thing (or you can just take apaches instructions in that)04:33
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ksaok ill try agan04:33
nomasteryodaksa, there's also the UbuntuCenter04:33
interloperhello everyone can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?04:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:33
interloperi do have it installed04:33
nomasteryodawhich is not really ubuntu, but does do LAMP and adds some stuff like a ampache tunes server04:33
jbmigel_interloper well you're done! w00t04:34
interloperim having some performance issues04:34
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braino ksa: have you ran synaptic? there you will find alot of different things to install (including apache)04:34
jbmigel_interloper are you sure you have direct rendering on ? "glxinfo | grep direct" will tell you04:34
ksabraino: no04:34
ksawhats synaptic04:35
interloperyes i do jbmigel_04:35
bruenig!synaptic | ksa04:35
ubotuksa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto04:35
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brainotype in sudo synaptic04:35
brueniggksudo synaptic04:35
jbmigel_interloper well what sort of performance issues are you having then04:35
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nomasteryodajbmigel_, interloper should check that the module nvidia is loaded... lsmod | grep nvidia04:36
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:36
rbilbruenig, what's the benefit of using gksudo over plain sudo?04:36
interloperi have a dual core 2.8 with 6600gt 10000rpm raptor and a gig of ddr3 ram and getting 60fps in jedi outcast with cedega 5.004:36
Aven_I accidently played two videos at a time, and so the sound stopped04:36
Aven_I've restarted my computer, etc. but how can i have my computer detect the sound again?04:37
JaxonHe should also check to see that his xorg.conf is using the nvidia module and not the nv module04:37
interlopernvidia               4547540  1204:37
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jbmigel_interloper I wasnt aware ddr3 ram was available yet04:37
interloperagpgart                34888  2 nvidia,via_agp04:37
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bruenigusing sudo for graphical apps can result in having .ICEauthority owned by root making it impossible to login04:37
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Vuenquestion, is there a gtk alternative to frostwire?04:37
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Vueni'm sick of java applications04:37
Aven_hey, i need help04:38
interloperi could be mistaken could be ddr204:38
Aven_I accidently played two videos at a time, and so the sound stopped04:38
Aven_I've restarted my computer, etc. but how can i have my computer detect the sound again?04:38
nomasteryodaVuen, lol me too04:38
jribVuen: gtk-gnutella04:38
rbilbruenig, never had a prob, but I'll take your word for it. thanks04:38
Samus_Aranwhat determines how many "forks" are available ?  I have max user processes at 200 and get fork resource unavailable, then I increase it to 500 and still get the message.  I have 428 MiB RAM free (+/- cache), and 5557 MiB swap free, so it isn't that04:38
mneptonVuen: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella04:38
Jaxoninterloper: so, what is the problem with performance?04:38
Vuenmmm, thanks04:38
nomasteryodaAven_, try alsamixer in the console04:38
jbmigel_interloper 60fps is very good rate, much faster than your eye can see... who cares??04:38
bruenigrbil, not often does it happen but sometimes04:38
Samus_Aranit is screwing up almost all programs I am running04:38
nomasteryodause cursor keys to navigate and Esc when done04:38
MorningWooddo intel graphics drivers come installed by default on ubuntu?04:38
ksawow that synaptic thing was ez04:38
Aven_nomasteryoda: ah, then what? :P04:38
ksathak u all04:38
bruenigI generally just go with gksudo and it has never happened to me but I've read the horror stories04:38
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Vuenalso, what torrent software do you suggest for kubuntu? i like something with loads of features; i'm switching from azureus04:39
Vuenshould i use ktorrent?04:39
nomasteryodaAven_, look for  an MM04:39
Aven_nomasteryoda: I can increase volumes, yeah04:39
interloperi used to run this game with the same fps with a ti4400 and 1.7ghz machine04:39
JaxonVuen: I'd reccommend ktorrent.04:39
brainoya, i forgot. I use kde, so its kdesu for me04:39
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Aven_MM as in Master M?04:39
nomasteryodaMM means muted04:39
VuenJaxon: mmm, thanks04:39
nomasteryodaso pressing M would unmute04:39
bruenigVuen, utorrent through wine is also fun if you don't mind the extra work to get it running04:39
mneptonVuen: try bittornado-gui, too. or, if you have access to a LAMP installation, Torrentflux.04:39
interloperi've seen people get well over a hundred jbmigel_04:39
Vuenjrib, mnepton, i suppose i should have asked is there a qt gnutella client?04:40
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Vuenbecause i use kde04:40
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interloperplus when i drag the the terminal window its kinda choppy jbmigel_04:40
theBishopndiswrapper stopped working in Edgy...04:40
jribVuen: well you can still use gtk apps, I don't know of any qt ones04:40
jbmigel_interloper im sure it's possible, but with different driver versions, different cedega, different libc, also you have smp kernel, lots different... be happy it is playable04:40
nomasteryodainterloper, you might need to check the settings in xorg.conf for glx, etc..04:40
nomasteryodajust my guess04:40
dwangotheBishop, Just installed Edgy last night and it works.04:40
MorningWoodwould intel graphics drivers come installed by default on ubuntu?04:40
Jaxoninterloper: you can't see any difference over 60 fps, I'd try running something a bit more hardware intensive and seeing if you don't get max FPS from that as well.04:41
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theBishopdwango, what card you have?04:41
nomasteryodaand your hard drive optimization with hdparm04:41
bruenigMorningWood, likely04:41
JaxonMorningWood: what problems are you having?04:41
theBishopdwango, specifically04:41
krazykitbruenig: er, utorrent through wine requires no extra work.04:41
Aven_nomasteryoda: still doesn't work :\04:41
Aven_nomasteryoda: none are mute04:41
nomasteryodaAven_, ok04:41
interloperguys when i go into free for all map im down to 30fps04:41
Vuenjrib: mmm, that sucks. oh well. i'm trying to switch over to entirely qt apps (except for firefox). i can't stand most gtk widgets, like the godawful file picker dialog04:41
bruenigkrazykit, it requires more than, apt-get install (bittorrent client)04:41
MorningWoodhaving problems with my function key and the brightness monitor that is on gateway laptops04:41
jribVuen: #kubuntu might have some recommendations for you04:41
nomasteryodaAven_, open the audio tray tool properties04:42
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Aven_nomasteryoda: how?04:42
theBishopdwango, hmm, what version of ndiswrapper do you have and what commands did you use?04:42
Aven_nomasteryoda: as in, for the media player?04:42
nomasteryodaAven_,  you using ubuntu?04:42
MorningWoodit shows the brightness level in a little window, but is all distorted in ubuntu04:42
jribVuen: and I agree with you about the file picker04:42
JaxonMorningWood: laptops, you are on your own, not under my area of expertise :\04:42
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi04:42
nomasteryodaright-click the tool04:42
nomasteryodaer, speaker04:42
MorningWoodwondering if it might be because of the graphics driver04:42
interloperand i don't even have anything antialliasing enabled either. 1024x768 is what im running at04:42
MorningWoodjaxon: thanks anyway04:42
Aven_mkay, one sec04:42
dwangotheBishop, I've got both 1.1 and 1.8 installed04:43
Jaxoninterloper: then that sounds like a cedega configuration issue.04:43
Aven_ohh, fixed04:43
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Aven_it was mute04:43
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dwangopackage versions 1.1-5 and 1.18-1ubuntu204:43
jbmigel_MorningWood I would think that your frequency settings in xorg arnt optimal for the overlay... have you checked the factory specs against your settings04:43
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nomasteryodasee, simple things sometimes04:43
gop_fannale hi04:43
gop_KNow I got error 504:43
interloperim downloading the patch for q4 1.3 as we speak and see if running a native game will make any difference.04:43
gop_grub error 504:43
interloperif so then it is prolly cedega04:43
Vuenjrib: yeah, i had found a fix that makes firefox use the qt file picker, which worked wonderfully for a while, but for some reason it switched back :(04:43
MorningWoodjgmiglet, no I haven't04:43
MorningWoodhow would I go about doing that?04:43
dwangotheBishop, what error/problem are you getting?04:44
interloperbut when i drag the console window it should not be choppy anyway.04:44
nomasteryodainterloper, there might be some hack to the cedega conf files to make it better04:44
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nomasteryodainterloper, what does top show?04:44
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nomasteryodaas the most used process?04:44
theBishopdwango, it looks like its working, but then in dmesg, it says "loadndiswrapper failed"04:44
_rodneyomw sudo is shite... i changed the time into the past... now im totally locked out of my system :(04:44
Aven_nomasteryoda: nevermind, still didn't work :P04:44
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Aven_it was mute, i unmuted it but still..04:44
nomasteryodaAven_, k04:44
interlopernomasteryoda im running very low on mem and cpu usage04:44
jbmigel_MorningWood goto gateway and find out the refresh rate on your display...04:45
nomasteryodaAven_,  so click the edit option04:45
interloper1% and 6% on mem04:45
jrib_rodney: try 'sudo -K'04:45
jbmigel_MorningWood then edit your xorg.conf file to match04:45
Aven_alright, then?04:45
nomasteryodaAven_, er, the File option04:45
_rodneyjrib: i cant run sudo due to this prob... hence that will not work..... as i said sudo stinks...this is a total joke....04:45
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nomasteryodaChange device04:45
nomasteryodayou have more than one audio card?04:46
Aven_ok, then?04:46
MorningWoodjbmigel_ under the section device portion?04:46
nomasteryodaor one on board, one pci?04:46
interlopernomasteryoda thats mostly xorg anything else is sub 1%04:46
jrib_rodney: -K does not require a password entry so maybe it will work?04:46
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Aven_well, im using the one in front of my PC04:46
dwangotheBishop, I was getting an Illegal Argument error on modprobe ndiswrapper for a while04:46
Aven_for headphones04:46
palomerwhat's the easiest way to input korean on ubuntu?04:46
dwangobut got passed that somehow04:46
Aven_it's in front of the CPU04:46
nomasteryodaAven_, ok04:46
_rodneysudo -K04:46
_rodneysudo: timestamp too far in the future:04:46
akant2can anyone recommend an easy/secure hd crypto package for ubuntu04:46
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jbmigel_MorningWood it is in the monitor section, let me find you an example04:46
akant2for a laptop?04:46
nomasteryodaand that is not muted Aven_ ?04:46
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Aven_nope, not04:46
_rodneytheres no way out is there ..... geez what idiots.....04:47
nomasteryodaakant2, easy not, secure yes... truecrypt... but is command line04:47
dwangodoes anyone use a Xinerama on a laptop with an Intel graphics card (i810 driver)04:47
akant2well that is fine, just not sure where to start04:47
nuHow do i identify myself in IRC?04:47
akant2LUKS ?04:47
Aven_it was unmuted, just didn't know that04:47
nomasteryodaxx fingers idoe04:47
james296ok, I installed a third party Edgy theme on here, but programs like Synaptic is ugly and looks sorta like Windows 95, how do I fix this?04:47
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Jaxon_rodney: you could try waiting until the time stamp wasn't too far in the future?04:47
braskois there a way to downgrade the version of xfce in xubuntu?04:47
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rbildwango, I do, but I don't have that machine handy. what's the prob?04:48
_rodneyJaxon: thats ridiculous but of course its not a matter of trying im forced to wait... however long it is...04:48
theBishopdwango, ok, well i'm completely uninstalling ndiswrapper, and trying it with 1.804:48
nuHow do i identify myself in IRC?04:48
bruenignu, I believe it is, /msg Nickserv password>04:48
nubruenig: what if i forgot my pw?04:48
_rodneyor reboot in runlevel 1....04:48
braskois there a way to downgrade the version of xfce with xubuntu?04:48
bruenignu, then you can't indentify yourself04:48
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jrib_rodney: can you use the date/time applet in gnome to change the time?  (maybe gksudo uses a different timestamp)04:48
nomasteryodanu, you'll need a freenode admin to set you up04:48
bimberi/msg nickserv identify <password>04:48
dwangorbil: I'm trying to get the external monitor to be the 1st screen, and the Laptop LCD to be the 2nd04:48
james296can someone PLZ answer me?04:48
Jaxon_rodney: how far back did you set your ctime?04:48
dwangoand it's not going so well04:48
bimberibrasko: uninstall xfce, change repositories, update, reinstall xfce04:49
nunomasteryoda: where do i contact one?04:49
bruenigbimberi is right. Xchat does it automatically so I forgot the syntax04:49
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nomasteryodaon #freenode i would suspect04:49
rbildwango, I do just the opposite,  can u use rightof instead of leftof  for example?04:49
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_rodneyjames296: whats up ?04:49
braskobimberi: ok04:49
nuthanks all04:50
braskoI think it stinks that xubuntu uses a BETA VERSION of xfce04:50
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nomasteryodarbil, you can do that... i used to do that on mandrake and then on suse long ago... aka 200104:50
bruenigbrasko, what don't you get about edgy04:50
nikinsome things got better... i ame still searching for some stuff04:50
braskoand I'm pretty upset I bothered to install xubuntu at all now04:50
bimberibrasko: edgy?04:50
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nikina commander like samba share browser04:50
james296how can I prevent applications such as Synaptic from looking ugly when Im using a third party Edgy theme???04:50
darktomadid anyone know how to compile FreeRA on Ubuntu?04:50
jbmigel_MorningWood put HorizSync   30-82 and VertRefresh 50-85 in your monitor section... substitute real numbers04:50
dwangorbil: yeah I can.. but when I'm docked I like to use the large display as my primary (e.g. with my panels, application menus), and obviously when i'm undocked the internal display should be primary04:50
nikinany ideas?04:50
_rodneyjames296: no idea.. :(04:50
james296I know theres a way but I dunno04:50
dwangootherwise when I undock the panel positions will be on the wrong display04:50
james296can someone plz help me out here???04:51
james296I cant stand this :-(04:51
_rodneylol its not good i know :(04:51
bruenigjames296, it looks ugly because it is being run as root, not that that helps you any. My solution, don't run synaptic04:51
nujames296:  you cant04:51
braskobimberi: you want me to install even NEWER software?04:51
nujames296: well id ont think you can04:51
nikinbtw... is there any significant reason to move to edgy?04:51
braskobimberi: I have 6.06 installed, and it has a buggy xfce beta version04:51
nujames296: when you use synaptic, it uses the root's theme. not your own04:51
jbmigel_nikin no04:51
james296but how come it doesnt do that with the DEFAULT theme then?04:51
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rbildwango, understand. not sure how one handles that. short of having 2 xorg.conf and do renaming to change things after booting in04:51
nujames296: because ROOT also has that default theme04:52
_rodneynikin: so you can do the beta testing... soon they can make loadsa cash.. .keep upgrading ;)04:52
jbmigel_james296 grow up man it is just eye candy04:52
james296so what I do is install the theme under root?04:52
dwangorbil: well the conf management is something else altogether.  I'm just trying to get it to work in that layout first =)04:52
nujames296: the only thing i can think of, is installing your theme on the root themes folder, and if that doent work, i dont know04:52
james296yes and I LOVE eye candy04:52
rbildwango, would be nice to check for whether connected and then use appropriate xorg.conf ... maybe there's a script somewhere that will do that?04:52
dwangoyeah i dunno04:52
rbildwango, then it's more than just leftof or rightof, but what screen comes first04:53
bruenigjames296, i think they make it so different so that people realize that it is something that affects there system and all of that garbage about being careful and what not.04:53
dwangoif only Xorg supported dynamic serverlayout selection :-/04:53
braskowell, how do I upgarde to edgy?>04:53
Vaske_CarMy internet is slow, it need 5-7 seconds to open web page. Can anybody help with this problem? I use cable internet that is working fine on the same PC with Windows partition.04:53
rbildwango, agreed04:53
braskoand will it destroy my computer?04:53
nikinjames296: imho use Dapper.. why shouldn you... longterm support is allway a good stuff... just i hope they will port that new init replacer  stuff to Dapper as soon as it is stable04:53
braskowhat version of xfce does edgy have?04:53
jribubotu: tell Vaske_Car about ipv604:53
crimsunbrasko: post-4.4 RC104:53
bruenigbrasko, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"04:53
nikinjames: get a MAC :P04:53
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nikinor get Vista :P04:54
braskocrimsun: nice, that might help04:54
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nuoh noes04:54
rbildwango, I've seen example xorg.conf's with more than one severlayout, but what software would select which to use, I have never found04:54
brainoXGL > vista04:54
_rodneynikin: wrong theres no long term support as soon as they move most people along... your on yer own... which is best coz they only using you to make cash in the long term..its just wasting your resourcces04:54
braskowhat's gksudo?04:54
dwangorbil: you can pass a parameter to X when starting it manually04:54
braskoI'm on the command line04:54
dwangobut using kdm/gdm, I don't know04:54
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jbmigel_rbil dwango i think you can specify what server layout to use when starting X from command line... startX layout=b kinda thing04:55
brueniggksudo is sudo for graphical apps04:55
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rbildwango, yes that might do it... pass xinerama only if connected, don't load it in xorg.conf? maybe?04:55
braskook, I'll log in remoatly04:55
dwangoi did find something that could set the server layout at boo04:55
nikin_rodney: Dapper has NO longterm support???????04:55
_rodneyyour see....04:55
rbiljbmigel_, wow, that would be nice, had no idea04:55
dwangobut usually suspend and don't reboot much04:55
_rodneyas soon as edgy is majorly used... its gonna be forgotten...and so it continues....04:55
holycowdapper has 7 year support04:56
brainoincorrect rodney04:56
_rodneywell its not been out that long ?04:56
iamtheobjectDoes anyone use the Logitech MX600 laser mouse that could assist me with the button placement in my xorg.conf file?04:56
_rodneyok well maybe this one they are trying to support for alittle while.. .to stop doing peoples head in04:56
holycow_rodney, i would strongly recommend googling  before speaking04:56
holycowforget thinking, its not working for ya04:56
bruenigdapper is supported for three years04:56
holycow7 years04:56
_rodneyfair play.. im sorry... but we will see ;)04:56
rbiliamtheobject, have mx500, close enuf? :-)04:57
bruenigso it has 2 years and 8 months left04:57
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_rodneythey prolly invested alittle in that so its in there interest04:57
iamtheobjectit might be04:57
jbmigel_3 years? that doesnt sound like long term04:57
nikinbruenig: server has more not?04:57
bruenigjbmigel_, well larger than the normal 18 months04:57
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bruenignikin, server five years says ubuntu.com04:58
bimberiyep, 3 years desktop, 5 years server04:58
_rodneycash cash cash.... :/ and they made out there were soo different..... typical.....04:58
bruenigthat will be odd thinking that people will be using dapper when 11.04 is out04:59
holycowthere you go04:59
Hooveyywhats the banshee package called?04:59
nikin_rodney: what cash?04:59
Hooveyyapt-get install banshee says package not found04:59
braskothanks all04:59
_rodneyer isnt there support line costly or something ?04:59
jbmigel_how do they tell the difference between server/desktop? like if i install apache on my desktop i get security updates for firefox?04:59
braskohope edgy works04:59
_rodneyeither way... heh04:59
bimberi!info banshee04:59
ubotubanshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB04:59
nikini didnt pay for my ubuntu... noone did AFAIK04:59
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bruenigbashee requires universe repo Hooveyy, have you enalbed it?04:59
holycowjbmigel_, there is no real difference04:59
interloperwell.. can someone maybe email me their xorg.conf file with a geforce 6600gt or alike card?05:00
holycowjbmigel_, its just one group of packages is called server another workstation05:00
bimberiHooveyy: install it via Applications -> Add/Remove...05:00
holycowapache is typically used on severs thus it is grouped there05:00
JaxonHas anyone else had problems getting SpamAssassin working with Postfix?  I've followed a couple different Howtos, but in the end, I'm not getting any headers added to incoming mail.05:00
Hooveyyah, k05:00
bruenigHooveyy, easy to follow guide if you don't know how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309605:00
Vaske_Carhow do i check if I am running Dapper or???05:00
Clinton__are there any repositories that contain Eclipse 3.2 ?05:00
bimberi(which enables the repos for you)05:00
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holycowdoesn't matter what you install its going to be updated provided its in the core group of supported packaqges05:00
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skelterso, I did a "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and now when I try to boot X can't start properly...can anyone help me get things back to normal?05:01
ice63holycow, hello05:01
jbmigel_holycow oh so your saying the server applications will receive 5 years support, the desktop applications 3... that makes sense05:01
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nikinskelter : sudo nvidia-glx-config disable   ... maybe05:01
holycowjbmigel_, correct05:01
holycowhello ice6305:01
MorningWoodjbmigel, I found my refresh rate which is a max of 60hz but I have no idea where to find the horizontalsync and vertical refresh05:02
skelterheh. good idea :s05:02
holycowMorningWood, google th emodel an dmake of your moni05:02
Clinton__are there any repositories that contain Eclipse 3.2 ?05:02
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holycowalso where is that link05:02
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jbmigel_MorningWood tell me again what model of gateway you have?05:02
bruenigClinton__, don't think so, certainly not any official ones05:02
holycowsomeone wrote a freebie app for modifying xorg.conf05:02
bimberiClinton__: not ubuntu ones05:02
Clinton__bruenig: I'm looking for unofficial too...05:02
jbmigel_MorningWood thx for link :)05:03
bruenigClinton__, well that looks like a job for google05:03
MorningWoodthank you05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorgedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
Clinton__bruenig: already been trying, haven't found anything yet05:03
Clinton__bruenig: which is why I'm here asking :)05:03
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nikinis there any commander style app for accesing SAMBA shares?05:04
holycowi don't know if that is stable at all so please backup your xorg.conf file05:04
holycowbut hopefully that will make it into gnome or something05:04
Keyseir"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." I get this whenever I try to apt-get or use synaptic05:04
nikinbesides SMBC wich has a lot of problems05:04
Hooveyywoot, banshee is l33t05:04
KeyseirWhen I run dpkg --configure -a it attempts to reinstall the program vmware and seems to get stuck05:04
holycowand integrate with a hardware list so you can select your monitor model an dmake05:04
KeyseirShould I pastebin this, or does anyone have an idea?05:05
bruenigClinton__, looks like a source compilation05:05
Clinton__bruenig: what are you nuts?  this isn't #gentoo :)05:05
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bruenigClinton__, 108 MB looks like fun05:05
Clinton__I have the binary installed into my ~, but I was hoping for a true repository, oh well05:06
jbmigel_MorningWood hmm ya it doesnt look like they tell you. can you make sure your set to 60hz in System>preferences>screen res05:06
SuperMiguelwhat is an blog?05:06
MorningWoodjbmigel, yes I am05:06
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nikinClinton__ Compiling isnt that evil, or mybe is... but it is better than not having something :P05:07
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Clinton__nikin: Compiling is OK when you absolutely must.05:07
Clinton__nikin: especially on a laptop that gets hot enough without compiling05:07
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nikinClinton__ i ame working on a laptop, but i have no heat problems05:08
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ice63what is the best why to get started setting up a firewall on ubuntu ?05:08
JaxonSo I guess I'm the only person having issues with SpamAssassin?05:08
JoetheoddClinton__: They just need to set their laptop on a desk when they're comping, or their girlfriend will get mad when they can't reproduce.05:08
brainoice63: try firestarter05:08
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Vaske_Carnikin, check out http://krusader.sourceforge.net/05:08
Vaske_Carhow to check Ubuntu version?05:09
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Joetheoddvitriol: Please don't talk in all caps.05:09
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defryskWhat noise05:09
Clinton__nikin: I tried Gentoo for awhile, but went to Ubuntu (former hardcore Debian user)... I didn't like feeling my laptop get so hot, even on my desk05:09
vitriolJoetheodd: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TODAY IS, DO YOU?05:09
Madpilotvitriol, enough shouting05:09
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upgrdmanim trying to install some firmware for my pcHDTV card. it says to put the files in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/, but /usr/lib/hotplug does not exist... ?05:10
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Clinton__isn't the bot supposed to kick caps mongrols?05:10
Joetheoddok, done.05:10
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vitriolok, fair enough05:10
vitriolmaybe i should be asking in #kubuntu ....05:10
ice63braino, how can a firewall protect the same computter it's on?05:10
mzuverinkAre we using ubuntu+1 for edgy questions?05:10
Hooveyyhow would I install konquerer ?05:11
brainoare you talking about using your comp as a firewall?05:11
nikinClinton__: i never used #Gentoo just some Debian based distros, but the  first thing i allways did is to configure my CPU-s speed stepping, and if doing hard work.. disabling the heighest speed :D05:11
Hooveyyyeah, whatever05:11
Hooveyywait, nevermind05:11
skelterso I hit a "sudu nvidia-glx-config enable" and when I boot, x doesn't start up. I tried "sudo nvidia-glx-config disable", but no change...anyone know how I can get things back to normal?05:11
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Clinton__nikin: yea the speed stepping can be nice, but I like having the full potential of my CPU at all times05:12
defryskskelter run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:12
skelterthanks, i'll try that05:12
nikinClinton__ i like having control over it, coz rendering is evil... :D05:12
Clinton__nikin: now if I could enable it only when, say X has been idle for 30 minutes and then disable when X becomes unidle, then I'd be more happy05:12
nikinmore evil than compiling :D05:12
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ice63useing a computer for a firewall ....that one :)05:13
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RedEyessHow do I change the resolution of the GDM screen?05:13
nikinClinton__ that isnt such hard :D05:13
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Clinton__nikin: really?  lst time I tried, nobody knew05:13
Clinton__nikin: (about a year ago)05:13
nikinnever tried it... but some scripting will do the trick05:13
brainoice63: firewall won't help you (I don't think it lets you do forwarding), lemme dig up a link05:13
brainoi mean firestarter05:13
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ice63i have never used firestarter for a firewall05:14
RedEyessHow do I change the resolution of the GDM screen?05:14
surgycan someone tell me how i can access my  uuntu partition  from  winxp?05:14
idelhi, I have problems with firefox, and others apps, it crashes all the time, I am using ubuntu edgy, I wonder if someone else has had this problems?05:14
nikinClinton__ so what you want is that wen x becomes inactive then speed should go down, and when X becomes active again speed goes MAX? did i understand right05:14
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flClinton__: why dont you use the ondemand governor? Or any of the daemons like powernowd? They dynamically switch the frequency according to the load05:14
Flannelidel: ask in #ubuntu+1, that's the edgy channel05:15
Clinton__nikin: exactly05:15
JaxonRedEyess: try "CTRL+ALT+NumPlus" and "CTRL+ALT+NumMinus"05:15
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Clinton__fl: on demand doesn't kick in fast enough for me, I like to have full CPU power when I'm using my laptop05:15
idelthanks Flannel05:15
holycowthey also let you set it on 100% cpu or various workload levels via neato applet05:15
jbmigel_Clinton__ it take like 2ms to kick up i dont think you can tell difference05:15
nikinClinton__ i gonna take a look05:16
Jaxonsurgy: I don't believe there has been anything decent written to read ext3 from Windows.05:16
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flClinton__: what's the delay? A few ms imho05:16
surgyjaxon: nothing?05:16
BelialMkIIsurgy, there is something to read ext3, but cant write to it05:16
Clinton__fl: enough that I can feel the diff05:16
brainoice63: the only thing I can find right now is how to do it manually with iptables. Here is a guide to start you off http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/IptablesFirewall05:17
nikini think the powernowd's agressive setting will do for Clinton__05:17
surgybelialmkII: link?05:17
BelialMkIIuhh actually, think i found one that claims to do both, never tried it05:17
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Jaxonsurgy: I use a fat32 partition to copy stuff from Ubuntu to Windows.05:17
brainoice63: you will need to go down to where it discusses forwarding05:17
flWrong, now one can write to ext3 9or ext2 at least from windows)05:17
jbmigel_Clinton__ the only think you could possibly notice is the 2 hour drop in battery life your way05:17
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nikinClinton__ read  man powernowd   ... maybe thats good enough for you.... see the agressive setting05:18
Clinton__jbmigel_: my battery is 4 years old, its hosed anyways05:18
surgyjaxon: care to go  into more   detail?05:18
Clinton__nikin: I've tried powernowd, didn't like it05:18
Clinton__trust me when I say I can tell the diff05:18
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nikinClinton__ :D okok05:18
abbi2bis compiz available for ubuntu?05:19
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Clinton__abbi2b: yes05:19
Jaxonsurgy: On one of my drives is a 10gb fat32 partition, which both winxp and any linux kernel have r/w support05:19
Peloevening folks05:19
Flannelabbi2b: yes.  #ubuntu-xgl has information05:19
Pelois there anyway to restore a deleted file in ubuntu ?  it wasn'T deleted using the usual method05:20
abbi2bthanks Flannel :)05:20
jbmigel_Pelo if you deleted it from gnome you can still find it in wastebasket05:20
Clinton__Pelo: whats the usual method?05:20
jbmigel_Pelo if you were at command line then the file is gone05:20
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Pelothe usual method would be to the waste basket, this was deleted from a win app running in wine05:21
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Clinton__Pelo: did you look in the trashbasket?05:21
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PeloClinton__  it's not in the trashcan05:21
nkassiPelo: in that case  it was delete completly05:21
SpaceFroghey guys. How do i change the default login message that appears when a user logs into Ubuntu via the shell?05:21
Peloany recovery progs for ext3 drives ?05:22
bimberiSpaceFrog: /etc/motd05:22
jbmigel_Pelo if it was really really important you could spend a day looking through your drives raw data and find it again05:22
SpaceFrogthanks bimberi05:22
Clinton__Pelo: OK, you delted it with a Windows app using  Wine?  Did you try to see if Wine installed a trash can directory ?05:22
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bimberiSpaceFrog: np :)05:22
maxflaxI must say.. compiling the alsa-drivers didnt go as planned05:22
flsurgy: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ or http://www.fs-driver.org/05:22
PeloClinton__  looking for that right now05:22
nautWhat package do I need to install to get pdflatex?05:22
idelwhich gnome version has ubuntu dapper?05:22
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poningru2.14 iirc05:23
maxflaxLooks like a total reinstall of the OS.. :(05:23
poningrumaxflax: whats wrong?05:23
Pelowho suggested the raw data thing ? how would I go about doing that ?05:23
Clinton__Pelo: any luck?05:23
AdamKilihey is Ubuntu the most popular linux distro? if not, which is? Fedora?05:23
_ian_what ius skypes package name if i were to apt get05:23
PeloClinton__  wine doesn'T seem to make it's own trashcan05:23
dfcarneyPelo: how much do you know about filesystems, inodes, etc ?05:24
Clinton__Pelo: you might be screwed05:24
Pelodfcarney   nada05:24
jbmigel_Pelo im looking now for a recovery tool05:24
Clinton__dfcarney: hope you can help him from here05:24
dfcarneyPelo: ouch05:24
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Pelodfcarney  donT' worry about it ,  I just have to dl that torrent again05:24
bimberi!skype | _ian_05:24
ubotu_ian_: skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:24
dfcarneyClinton__: not really.  i've manually recovered corrupt Ext3 and ReiserFS systems, but it takes forever05:24
HooveyyAdam: I think ubuntu is the most popular, I believe Red Hat, Fedora, and Mandriva are popular too.05:24
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jbmigel_Pelo omg it is a torrent... dood your on your own05:25
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Clinton__dfcarney: corrupt reiserfs?  really!05:25
HooveyyDebian as well, especially, (ubuntu is based off of it)05:25
Pelojust a bit annoying I apparwently downloaded the same thing twice and then went and deleted the wront one05:25
Frederickdoes anyone here installed nessus?05:25
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dfcarneypelo: oh man, it'll take you far less time to just download it again05:25
nikinClinton__ : powernowd -p 10 -l 5 -u 10 -m 1      ....is your setting :P05:25
JaxonPelo: unless you are using a journalling filesystem and the changes haven't been written to disk, then you are out of luck.05:25
SpaceFrogCan someone recommend  an MP3 player that's compatible with Linux?05:25
dfcarneyClinton__: yeah, just some garbled bits, but it really screwed things up05:25
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maxflaxponinguru, well.. it won\t boot.. stops and just throws out errors about ATA1 or something and once i got past it.. it went as far as I got some graphics but the introsound was looping on the first 1 sek.. of the sound. and it stalled.. could go out to terminal via.. ctrl alt f205:25
dfcarneyClinton__: i didn't do it all myself, however -- there were a bunch of us working on it05:25
nkassiSpaceFrog: look at the restrictedformat page in the wiki.ubuntu.com05:26
Clinton__dfcarney: I'm surprised to here of a non-hardware related reiserfs corruption05:26
AdamKiliwhich linux distro is most popular?05:26
dfcarneyClinton__: well, we found a bug in SuSE's kernel driver for it.05:26
jbmigel_Pelo http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm05:26
dfcarneyClinton__: (and we submitted the patch upstream)05:26
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PeloJaxon  dfcarney  Clinton__  , I'll just dl it again , no trouble, it's just dam annoing to dl a two parter and then realise part 2 doen't have sound,  then notice you downloaded to different version and you could have tried the other one but you deleted it thinking it was the bad one05:26
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MadpilotAdamKili, you're in #ubuntu, guess which distro we're biased toward?05:26
SpaceFrognkassi: I was actually referring to mp3 devices that dont come with proprietary software.. How well do IPods work with linux?05:27
Pelothanks jbmigel_05:27
Clinton__Pelo: heh, good luck!  what were you dl anyways?05:27
totall_6_7AdamKili: you are asking that question in the ubuntu room???05:27
mzuverinkSpaceFrog, My ipod works just fine05:27
PeloClinton__  torchwood05:27
Clinton__dfcarney: glad to hear you got it fixed, hopefully the devs take the patch05:27
brainoAdamKili: http://distrowatch.com/ has some statistics05:27
Clinton__Pelo: Doctor Who right?05:27
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tnnccan someone tell me what commands i need to run to have another video to be seen05:27
AdamKiliwhere should i ask it? is there an unbiased chat room somewhere?05:27
PeloClinton__  drwho spin off,  first two eps tonight05:27
dfcarneyClinton__: yeah, though it seems that SuSE is planning to switch away from ReiserFS now...and go back to EXT05:27
nikinAdamKili: Ubuntu :D but the Q is in what field of operation?05:27
nkassiSpaceFrog: There are multiple software that support Ipods. Just pluging it in will load one05:27
Clinton__Pelo: yup, I've seen it.. excellent show05:28
Clinton__Pelo: Friday nights show (in the US anyhow) was excellent as well, you'll enjoy it05:28
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AdamKilipersonal, normal use05:28
Pelodon't spoil it05:28
JaxonSpaceFrog: my iPod works fantastic.05:28
Clinton__Pelo: I won't05:28
nkassiSpaceFrog: If not, there is gtkpod, pytunes ...05:28
mike_eybhello, i am in dire need of a linux guru05:28
SpaceFrogah, thanks for the help. hehe, I'm trying to decide what mp3 player i should get my girlfriend for christmas05:29
ideland, if dapper is the LTS version, it means that it uses old packages respect to edgy?05:29
nikinAdamKili: the use Ubuntu: good stuff, stable stuff, and its compatible with everithing ... behalv a two-handed sword.... but maybe supports that to :D05:29
nkassiSpaceFrog: Most other MP3 players can be browsed as usbdisk devices. They will create a icon on the desktop.05:29
defryskmp3player ?05:29
defryskget a g305:29
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Clinton__Pelo: btw, I HIGHLY recommend Tivo, or MythTV, or something equivalent05:29
mike_eybCan anyoen tell me how to enable dual monitor in Ubuntu05:29
jbmigel_nkassi your gf runs ubuntu?05:30
PeloClinton__  why ?05:30
Flannel!tell mike_eyb about xinerama05:30
SpaceFrogjbmigel: mine does.05:30
Clinton__Pelo: they record the shows for you...hell I forget they're on half the time, then I go check it out and I say "oh yea!" and sit down for a couple hours of good TV, and skipping commercials :)05:30
mike_eybwhat is xinerama?05:30
nkassijbmigel: Mine too, she loves gnome majjongh ;-)05:30
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Flannelmike_eyb: check your query from ubotu, it has a link05:31
PeloClinton__   that's what RSS downloaders are for05:31
tnncadded new video card can ssh into box but X wont come up what do i need to run05:31
lostboyzhow do i reconfigure the xorg file i always forget the right command05:31
Clinton__Pelo: OK, you're teaching me something, where is this RSS feed?05:31
mike_eybI'm a complete newb, never heard about ubuntu unyil 45 min ago05:31
Clinton__lostboyz: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
MadpilotFlannel, you know about ubotu's new | command? Less confusing than PMs sometimes05:31
maxflaxponingru, well.. it won\t boot.. stops and just throws out errors about ATA1 or something and once i got past it.. it went as far as I got some graphics but the introsound was looping on the first 1 sek.. of the sound. and it stalled.. could go out to terminal via.. ctrl alt f205:31
lostboyzand is there anyone else here that has a problem with a ati radeon xpress card with the fglrx driver?05:31
Madpilot!yourself | Flannel05:31
ubotuFlannel: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:31
jbmigel_mike_eyb welcome to linux!05:32
lostboyzwhen i try to logout i only get a black screen05:32
mike_eybthank you very much05:32
nikinstill looking for a commander like samba browser, that does not depend on KDE or Gnome... the best would be console :D .... mc and smbc are not good coz they have some serius problems05:32
lostboyzand cannot shut down correctly05:32
FlannelMadpilot: Ah, they added it?  How handy.  Still... spammy though.  Too bad there's no happy medium.05:32
mike_eybi used to use pirc back on window and get here has been the only thing i could do05:32
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nkassimike_eyb: i suggest searching wiki.ubuntu.com for help.05:32
cafuegoSorry, which way to the asylum?05:32
mike_eybi was on some forrum but they were talking something about xconf.org?05:32
PeloClinton__  join me in #pelo since this is off topic05:32
maxflax4th reinstall of the os on this comp... iits starting to getting tiresom. darn alsa05:33
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nkassimike_eyb: they probably have a page on dual monitors05:33
Madpilotcafuego, isn't that #ubuntu-offtopic? ;)05:33
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lostboyzmaxflax what are you trying to do?05:33
mike_eybright now i have the two monitor working but one is a clone of the other05:33
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nkassimike_eyb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo05:33
nkassimike_eyb: that should help.05:34
dfcarneymike_eyb: if "dual monitors" doesn't work for a search, try "dual head"05:34
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maxflaxlostboyz, getting it up running again.. did a compilation and install of the latest alsa drivers. 1.0.1305:34
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mike_eybthe major question i have right now: can i right click or go to some setting to enable or do i have to do something with code?05:34
lostboyzyou may have to use a driver that is older05:34
lostboyzsometimes new drivers have bugs in them05:34
nikini think i go and sleep a bit.. its 5:34 AM here :P cul8r05:35
lostboyzthat do not always work with older computers maxflax05:35
KevinKidI recently downloaded Ubuntu Linux Dapper Drake and tried to install it on a PC with 256 of RAM and since the only way I could devise for installing was running the LIVE CD, the machine would halt and I couldn't install it. Is there any way I can install Ubuntu without having to run the Live CD?05:35
maxflaxlostboyz, well its a brand new computer.. only 2 weeks old..05:35
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FlannelKevinKid: the alternate CD05:35
KevinKidWhere do I get it?05:36
jbmigel_mike_eyb it is kinda hard to setup for your first day... you need to make sure your driver works... then you need to set up xinerama05:36
nikinubuntu.com :D05:36
FlannelKevinKid: same place, ubuntu.com/download05:36
KevinKidwhat's the name of the iso?05:36
maxflaxlostboyz, running on a nforce 430 chipset.. with onboard gfx and all that I can need..05:36
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FlannelKevinKid: You'll see it, it'sthe "alternate" isntead of the "desktop"05:36
mike_eybi eventually want to set up my comp as an FTP server.... i suspect that is going to be more difficult right?05:37
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nkassimike_eyb: if there is, it would be under system->preferences or system->administration05:37
KevinKidOk, so I got to ubuntu.com and then where do I click?05:37
lostboyzmaxflax ok sounds good i am not able to help i don't think i was just telling you my experience05:37
maxflaxlostboyz, wanted my sound working with spdif and crimsun said that the problem I had was solved in the 1.0.13 version of Alsa drivers05:37
Flannelmike_eyb: nope.  There are howtos on that as well05:37
nkassimike_eyb: the odds are bad for a click button sorry.05:37
FlannelKevinKid: ubuntu.com/download choose a mirror, then grab the alternate ISO for your arch05:37
dfcarneymike_eyb: in fact, it's pretty easy...providing your ISP doesn't block the ports, you've got the right security/firewall, etc.05:37
mike_eyblinux might prove to be difficult05:37
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KevinKidok thank you05:38
KeyseirWell shit. I just upgraded to dapper and I wasn't aware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263214 Has anyone been able to get VMware player to work?05:38
Flannelmike_eyb: you won't need to code, you'll need to change configurations, it's not that difficult, there's lots of info out there to help05:38
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nkassimike_eyb: sadly some things are just not there yet.05:38
jbmigel_mike_eyb there is a definite learning curve but believe me it is worth it... just be patient and pick one thing at a time05:38
maxflaxanyone else with a nForce 430 based motherboard_05:39
mike_eybthat is what the guy who gave me the ubuntu cd said05:39
clearzenI'm trying to backup my system over a network using tar and bzip2 and then I am trying to pipe it my server through ssh. But it keeps giving me "host unknown" errors, I know the ssh is working and I don't know what I am doing wrong.05:39
mike_eybbut he speaks binary and klingon05:39
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jbmigel_mike_eyb ka plah!05:40
nkassimike_eyb: my suggestion would be to find someone locally that could walk you through some of the steps. In the end it is worth the work.05:40
KeyseirAnyone here even Use VMware?05:40
maxflaxwell .. of to do that reinstall no.. time to waste.. im not getting any wiser here anyway05:40
dfcarneyi use vmware05:40
charlie5 hello ... this is rather OT, sorry, but i cannot find help anywhere else :/ ... i'm having trouble setting up my firewall to allow the outside to access my svn repos ... i have a netcomm modem/router ... would anyone have some time to help ?05:40
nkassikeyseir: I do.05:40
mike_eybAnyone from Niagara Region, ON Canada05:40
compudazewhats the difference with xchat and xchat-gnome?05:40
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ozzicleHas anyone had any xgl/compiz issues where the program gets drawn but it's nearly transparent and only visible if it's over another program window that's all black?05:40
Keyseirnkassi: Any luck getting it to work on dapper drake or newer?05:41
Pelocompudaze ,  xchat is nice, xchat-gnome sucks05:41
ozzicleIt's not the first time I've had it05:41
compudazewhy does it suck?05:41
Keyseirnkassi: I just upgraded from breezy and I'm having issues as seen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26321405:41
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ozzicleBut this time it's with a program I really need :(05:41
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Flannelozzicle: #ubuntu-xgl (or #xgl)05:41
nkassiKeyseir: yes, you need to install the kernel header package05:41
Keyseirnkassi: I just removed all my vmware files and am trying to reinstall through apt-get...05:41
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Keyseirnkassi: How do I do that?05:41
ozzicleTHanks Flannel05:41
nkassiKeyseir: let me lookup the name of the package05:41
dfcarneyKeyseir: you may need to recompile your kernel with VMware support05:41
Pelocompudaze , seriously,  xchat-gnome is more of a noob version of xchat as far as I am concerned , go for the full xchat05:41
Keyseirnkassi: Thank you.05:41
dfcarneyor build a custom driver for it05:41
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Keyseirdfcarney: VMware support?05:41
mike_eybI was trying to update Ubuntu it install 167 packages but retruned two error about the install05:42
Keyseirdfcarney: If I were to do this, where would I start?05:42
mike_eybsomething about dapper05:42
mike_eybwhat is that05:42
tgelterhey all - anyone had success getting compiz and/or twinview working w/ twinview on dual monitors?05:42
Pelomike_eyb  dapper drake is the name of the 6.06 release05:42
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KevinKidHad I known there was an alternate install CD for computers with not a lot of RAM then I would have downloaded that first and not the official one. I think the webmasters of ubuntu.com should place that notice to avoid people like me to have to redownload another iso when our connections aren't that fast.05:42
nkassilinux-header- your platform05:42
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compudazeso the gnome version is a prettied up front-end?05:43
mike_eybhow large is the file and where can idownload it?05:43
KeyseirWhat do I do to check my platform?05:43
nkassiKeyseir: linux-header05:43
FlannelKevinKid: they're both official05:43
KevinKidbut there's no notice saying, hey dude this for people with low ram05:43
Pelocompudaze , I don'T think so, I think it is jsut a bit lighter on features05:43
nkassiKeyseir: uname -r05:43
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tnncjust added an video card to my box and screen is black but i can ssh into the box need to know what i need to run so if will cinfure the new card??05:43
Flannelcompudaze: no, it's more 'integrated' into the OS05:44
Pelocompudaze ,  I used it for about half an hour before I figured out is wasn'T just a xchat that wasn'T configured the way I was use to it ,  then I switch back to xchat regular05:44
KevinKidwhere can i post suggestions to improve our community?05:44
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nkassiKeyseir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VmWare05:44
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nkassiKeyseir: You also need build-essential05:44
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Keyseirnkassi: It said I already had linux headers installed =/05:44
mzuverinktnnc, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:44
MadpilotKevinKid, depends on what you mean - software bugs to to bugs.ubuntu.com; community suggestions might be best on the ubuntu-sounder mailing list05:45
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KevinKidwhats the url for that list05:45
nkassiKeyseir: Look at that page, and use the package available from vmware's website05:45
MadpilotKevinKid, one sec, I'll find it05:45
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tnncmzuverink thanks05:45
MadpilotKevinKid, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder05:46
Newbyhello can anybody help me in the new ubuntu sistem?05:46
dfcarneyKeyseir: you may find that whenever you perform an upgrade that you'll have to run through theses steps again.05:46
Keyseirdfcarney: Wonderful!05:46
tgelteranyone? xgl/compiz w/ twinview?05:46
mike_eybnewby:join the club05:46
dfcarneyKeyseir: yeah, it's a tonne of fun05:46
Madpilottgelter, #ubuntu-xgl05:47
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tgelteroh, thanks Madpilot05:47
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Vaske_Carjrk_, was you the one suggested to disable IPv6 few minutes ago?05:47
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mike_eybNewby: i just installed it 45 min ago from XP i'm soo lost right now05:47
Newbythe problem is " how can i see the shared files from my pc with windows?05:47
mzuverinkFor some reason no matter what screensaver I select it will only blank the screen.  Anyone have any ideas on fixing that?05:47
Flannel!samba | Newby05:47
ubotuNewby: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:47
Newbyim in the cd live ubuntu 6.0605:47
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wefwhy I cant connect via ftp using my ssh root/password?05:48
mzuverinkNewby, try http://easylinux.info05:48
mike_eybgot Places> network servers05:48
FlannelNewby: oh, same computer?05:48
Newbyhaaa ok thank05:48
nkassiKeyseir: just watch for any kernel updates in the list from update-manager05:48
nkassiKeyseir: or if vmware breaks ;-)05:48
mike_eybthat i'm not sure about05:48
Newbybut i have to installed rigth now?05:48
Newbyi mean05:48
Vaske_Car!tell ati05:48
compudazewef: ftp for root is usually disabled05:48
compudazewhich ftpd are you running?05:48
dfcarneywef: security, most likely05:48
Newbyactually i am in a pc whitout hdd05:48
Newbyim using the ubuntu live cd05:49
Madpilotwef, because ssh != ftp05:49
Vaske_Caris there tutorial of how to install ATI drivers for ATI 9200 SE ?05:49
mzuverinkNewby, I used the live cd, installed a bunch of stuff to test, but I am sure that is amount of ram independant05:49
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Keyseirnkassi: I think I'm about to adopt a policy of "liking my kernel the way it is already, thank you ver much"05:49
chuckypAnyone here play cube?05:49
mike_eybI was playing with Ubuntu live.. i just installed it05:49
compudazeusually theres /etc/ftp* files - one is a users file that disables certain users, namely root...05:49
interloperguys how can i boot to text, changing inittab not doing it.05:49
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mike_eybi'm trying to run dual monitors05:49
nkassiKeyseir: that would work too ;0)05:49
PeloNewby  I know you can run live cd and save your settings to a usbdrive or some such ,  but I am not familiar with the details, if that helps05:49
Newbybut from where can i download that samba?05:49
nkassiNewby: is it a machine on the network ?05:50
Newbyyes nkassi05:50
nkassiNewby: places->network server05:50
Newbyi got 2 pc05:50
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compudazeinterlooper: you you booting into a displaymanager currently/05:50
JuhazOneyo fellas05:50
mzuverinkNewby, got to that page I listed and read it, its got a lot of info05:50
Newbyone with windows xp05:50
compudazeor str8 to X05:50
JuhazOnei've got a weird problem05:50
Newbyand the other with the cd live ubuntu05:50
nkassiNewby: places->connect to server , sorry05:50
JuhazOnei woke up today to the fact that there was no space left on /05:51
interlopercompudaze yes im going straight to graphical right now05:51
ESPOiGwen u have mounted the hdd of the comp that you want to fix grub do u do the install for it like so <grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/harddrive/boot/ /dev/hdc3> or <grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/harddrive /dev/hdc3> or am i wrong completely05:51
PeloJuhazOne  ,  make some room05:51
JuhazOnei found out that ~/.xsession-errors is 3 gigabytes. i removed the file and expected to get more free space..05:51
compudazeso you're not booting to gdm/kdm to enter your passwd first?05:51
mike_eybGuys i'm out thank for the info!05:51
schmitymy mother05:51
Flannel!tell ESPOiG about grub05:51
nkassiNewby: then choose windows share from the drop down menu05:51
JuhazOnebut i didn't. df thinks / is still full.05:51
schmityput a bagel in the disk drive05:51
schmityand now it wont read on ubuntu05:51
dfcarneyJuhazOne: did you reboot after deleting the file?05:51
FlannelESPOiG: that page (first link, about reinstsalling after installing windows) gives the exact command05:51
schmitycan someone help me?05:51
schmityput a bagel in the disk drive05:51
ESPOiGFlannel, ty man05:51
dfcarneyJuhazOne: that could be why.  the file won't be deleted until all file handles are closed.05:52
JuhazOnethat's something i'm going to try if nothing else works05:52
Newbygood nkassi05:52
PeloJuhazOne   mty trashcan05:52
Newbyim doing hat05:52
dfcarneyJuhazOne: killing/restarting X may just do the trick05:52
nkassiNewby: tell me if it dosen't work05:52
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JuhazOnedfcarney: really?05:52
dfcarneyJuhazOne: though you should probably figure out *why* the file is 3 GB in size first05:52
JuhazOnethat might a be good idea, too05:52
clearzenif you pipe a program to ssh do you still use the syntax ssh user@
Newbyand it appears my pc05:52
dfcarneyJuhazOne: yup.05:52
JuhazOneit was full of "end from FAM server connection" followed by four lines "invalid length 24902".05:53
mzuverinkNewby, you should be able to see the windows xp shares without installing anything with the live cd, just go to places network servers and then windows shares05:53
JuhazOnethat wasn't very helpful imo05:53
dfcarneyJuhazOne: what's not very helpful?05:53
Newbyyes i see it nkassi05:53
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nkassiNewby: good05:53
JuhazOnedfcarney: the messages in the file05:53
dfcarneyJuhazOne: ah.  what did it say?05:53
compudazeIntangir, what did you change in initab?05:53
Keyseirnkassi: Linux headers and build essential were already up to date. For some reason vmware keeps trying to start up Right after I run anything like apt-get in terminal. ANy idea why?05:53
dfcarneyJuhazOne: (please don't cut-and-paste a lot of stuff -- just a line should do)05:53
JuhazOnedfcarney: it was full of "end from FAM server connection" followed by four lines "invalid length 24902".05:53
Newbybut when i try to open the share mmm "forgot the name" whre are the files05:53
compudazesorry, interloper i mean05:54
Newbymmm sorry forgot the name in english05:54
dfcarneyJuhazOne: well, unless you fix it then you're just going to have the same problem again in a couple of days/weeks05:54
nkassiKeyseir: hum! weird, it restarts itself ?05:54
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ojaican someone help me to get xine to play mpg/avis in Edgy?  I had it working fine in dapper and I've got w32codecs installed but xine keeps telling me it's trying to use an unsupported codec05:54
JuhazOnebtw if the file handle is still used, should it appear if i do something like du -x / ?05:54
ojai(already asked on ubuntu+1 but no love)05:54
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clearzenI am trying to backup my system and then ssh the .tar.bz2 file to my server and it keeps telling me "Name or service not known" I don't know what I am doing wrong. Can someone please help me?05:54
Keyseirnkassi: Yes. And if I don't let it try to replace files I get a dpgk error next time I try to apt-get.05:54
Newbywell but when i try to open it, it appears a windows that says something like "i have to change the name or something like that"05:55
JuhazOnedfcarney: possibly. but i have no idea what caused the problem in the first place. this is also the first time this has happened05:55
nkassiNewby: on your desktop there should be an icon or under Places05:55
Keyseirnkassi: I'm trying to pastebin it but pastebin is being slow for me..05:55
ojaiclearzen: what command are you running?05:55
dfcarneyhow long have you been running Ubuntu?  did you upgrade anything recently?05:55
PeloJuhazOne  boot in cli and remove the file manualy ?05:55
interloper<compudaze> the runlevel only its at 305:55
Newbymmm let me see05:55
nuked_omenubuntu upgrade breaks X05:55
JuhazOnePelo: i'll try booting if nothing else works. but i did remove the file using rm05:55
Newbyin my ubuntu desktop ?05:55
clearzenojai: I am using tar and then piping it to ssh05:55
nkassiKeyseir: now I have no clue. never seen anything of the sort. so you used the package for vmware workstation ?05:56
clearzenI can paste the command if you want05:56
PeloJuhazOne   booting in recovery mode would likely make it so that the file is not in use05:56
interloper<compudaze> but the gdm just loads X anyway05:56
compudazeedgy or?05:56
compudazeahh, so you're loading gdm05:56
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nkassiNewby: should be on the desktop.05:56
compudazestop gdm from startup05:56
interloper<compudaze> dapper05:56
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JuhazOneoh well05:56
dfcarneyJuhazOne: double check to see if something is still using the file by typing "lsof" at the prompt (as the root user)05:56
JuhazOnei'll try killing x now...05:57
ojaiclearzen: hrm, never done that before -- maybe just use rsync w/ the 'z' option to enable compression?05:57
Newbyaja there is the share file icon05:57
Newbythe share windows file icon05:57
compudazeupdate-rc.d -f gdm remove - this should stop gdm from starting up when the pc starts up05:57
JuhazOnedfcarney: umm. apparently yeah. 56 progs are using it05:57
compudazeto add it back, update-rc.d gdm defaults05:57
nkassiNewby: it should ask for a user name an password, click save it to your keyring to keep it for ever05:57
Newbyand when i try to open it it appears a windows that says... letme translate you...05:57
dfcarneyJuhazOne: there you go :)05:57
JuhazOneyeah :S05:58
clearzenojai: I know I have the tar command correct but ssh is giving me errors. If you think rsync would be easier I could try that though.05:58
JuhazOneall of them are X apps05:58
JuhazOneof... well, X apps or components05:58
dfcarneyJuhazOne: makes sense.  like I said, the file won't really be deleted until ALL file handles are closed on it.05:58
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interloper<compudaze> im gonna try that one thx a lot i'll be back to let you know if it worked.05:58
Hooveyyhow do i get a wmv codec?05:58
Hooveyyfor the movie player05:59
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ojaiif ssh is the one that's giving you errors about name resolution probs, maybe try using the destination hosts's IP addr instead of the host name?05:59
JuhazOnedfcarney: yup05:59
compudazeoh well he's gone05:59
dfcarneyJuhazOne: you can restart X with "Ctrl-Alt-Backspace"05:59
ojaior verify that your name servers are valid05:59
JuhazOnei know05:59
ojaibut you'd probably have experienced other network probs if your name servers were bad05:59
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dfcarneyJuhazOne: as for the FAM errors, I have no idea06:00
Newbyaja nkassi sorri fotr the translation its from altavista.com06:00
compudazewhats fedora using for 'desktop enhancements'?06:00
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Newbythe windows sais "06:00
NewbyBabel Fish Translation   Help06:00
NewbyIn English:06:00
NewbyThe file name DOWNERO. indicates that this file is of the type fichero of configuraci?del writing-desk. The content of the file indicates that it is of the type x-directory/smb-share.. If it opens east file?e to podr?representar a risk of security for his system. It does not open the file at least that same you have created it, or she has received it from a reliable source. In order to open the file, ren?relo with extensi?correcta for x-directory/smb-share.,06:00
compudazei installed beryl for edgy06:00
Newby soon opens the file normally. Alternatively, aplicaci?espec?ca for the file uses opci?.Abrir with of men?ara selecting one."06:00
compudazeand it works ok06:00
HooveyyHow do I install a WMV Codec?06:00
Keyseir_nkassi: Went and restarted. Going to try to install off the vmware site now.06:00
HooveyyWhere do I get one?06:00
tritiumNewby: please don't paste like that.06:00
ojaiclearzen: but rsync rocks if you haven't used it before06:00
Keyseir_nkassi: I appreciate your assistance06:00
Newbyverry sorry tritium06:01
Newbyvery sorry man06:01
nkassiNewby: send it to me personally, what language is it in ?06:01
tritiumNewby: no problem.  Next time please use pastebin (see topic).  :)06:01
Madpilot!mp3 | Hooveyy06:01
ubotuHooveyy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:01
PeloHooveyy   check the ubuntu wiki for  commercial repository,  or what ever it is called06:01
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ianmacgregor!repos | ianmacgregor06:01
ubotuianmacgregor: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:01
nkassiKeyseir: No probs.06:01
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poningruwhat is up with the piping??06:02
Keyseir_nkassi: Don't suppose you could tell me where to try to setup "new" hardware? My sound stopped working too.06:02
clearzenojai: Does rsync have a 2gig file size limit?06:02
ianmacgregorI like that. The bot now uses the intended nick in the factoid.. nice.06:02
ojaiclearzen: not at all06:02
dfcarneyclearzen: i don't think so, but NFS does (doesn't it)?06:02
nkassiKeyseir: when did it stop working ?06:02
Hooveyyah, thanks06:02
clearzenojai: could I use cat to transfer my backup in pieces then?06:02
nkassiKeyseir: Make sure notting is using it.06:02
Newbyand its in spanish i translated to english06:03
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Newbythe translate its awfull jaja sorry nkassi06:04
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Keyseir_nkassi: nevermind it's working. After I did dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper I had no GUI, then no sound, then no VMware. I'm a little confused about what's all wrong =D06:04
nkassiNewby: hum, if you go to network-server under Places, then windows network and then look for you xp box name06:04
Keyseir_nkassi: I need to reconfigure my screen resolution, too!06:04
dfcarneyclearzen: i believe that tar gives you the ability to split an archive into chunks of a given size06:04
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clearzendfcarney: that is why I was trying to use tar06:05
Newbyaja it appears the folder of the domine name06:05
nkassiKeyseir: A dist-upgrade dosen't take into account a lot. Using the Update-manager for that is a lot better. It does some special stuff to prevent that.06:05
ojaiclearzen: not sure what you mean?  if you wanted to back up your /etc/ for example to, you'd do an 'rsync -avz /etc'06:05
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clearzentar -cvpjf /failsafe.tar.bz2 --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/failsafe.tar.bz2 / | ssh taoist@ "(cat > failsafe.tar.bz2)"06:05
clearzenthat is the command06:05
dfcarneyclearzen: just so i'm clear, you're trying to perform a backup of your system to a remote machine?06:05
Keyseir_nkassi: Next time I suppose. I asked in here and followed what sounded like the soundest advice was.06:05
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clearzenyes, over ssh06:06
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Newbyif i could send you a puicture of my desk for you see it may help, dont it?06:06
nkassiKeyseir: Hehe, dosen't supprise me ;0)06:06
Keyseir_nkassi: How do I access the "upgrade manager"?06:06
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nkassiNewby: so you found you xp machine ?06:06
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Newbyi found it, and see all the share folders of the others pc's of the intranet06:07
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Keyseir_nkassi: Which version do I want to download off the vmware site? I don't want to get an "evaluation copy"06:07
Newbyor ethernet06:07
ojaiclearzen: hrm, not sure -- I guess I'm not the best at piping stuff through ssh.  but even though you're specifying an IP addr, it's giving you some host name error messages?06:07
Newbybut when i try to enter in one of the mine, it appears the windows06:08
dfcarneyclearzen: you cannot ssh to "taoist@"06:08
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clearzendfcarney: Why not? how would I do it then?06:08
dfcarneyclearzen: change your command to " tar -cvpjf /failsafe.tar.bz2 --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/failsafe.tar.bz2 / | ssh taoist@ "(cat > /home/taoist/failsafe.tar.bz2)"06:08
ojaiclearzen: that's true -- maybe just swap out 'ssh' for 'scp'06:08
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dfcarneyojai: right06:08
dfcarneyojai: i think :)06:09
Keyseir_nkassi: nvm06:09
Newbynkassi i son you the picture in png06:09
ojaiI'd still use rsync :)06:09
clearzenyess it worked06:09
clearzenthank you06:09
dfcarneyojai: rsync is nicer, i agree...but it's not as secure (if that's what you're worried about)06:09
clearzennow to set it as a cron job06:09
ojaihow is rsync not as secure?  it goes over ssh by default now06:09
dfcarneyojai: does it?  of that i was not aware06:10
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nkassiNewby: didn't get anything.06:10
ojaihrm, at least I thought it did :)06:10
dfcarneyojai: you're probably right06:10
clearzendfcarney: Where on the remote server is it going to be saved though?06:10
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JuhazOneoops, i ended up rebooting instead of shutting down and killing x :)06:10
JuhazOneanyway, the file is gone now...06:11
dfcarneyclearzen: as far as i know, in the location specified after the "cat" command\06:11
KevinKidI am planning to learn a programming language so I can contribute to the Ubuntu community specially applications we can use at school (ESL, EFL.) What's the preferred programming language for Ubuntu? I've read that Python is good for Ubuntu. Is it as easy as Visual Basic?06:11
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okiarohi guys, anybody know a way to split a file into chunks so they can later be reassembled? (eg using rar on windows)06:11
ojaidfcarney: ah, yeah, checking the man page says that modern rsyncs do use ssh06:11
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clearzendfcarney: cool, thank you again06:11
nkassiNewby: can you use the command line ?06:11
tritiumKevinKid: python would be good, yes06:11
HooveyyI just ran apt-get install totem-xine and its removing ubuntu desktop06:11
NoiaI have some problems installing Ubuntu06:11
dfcarneyojai: thanks for looking that up06:11
KevinKidOk, then I'm going to learn PYTHON :)06:11
NoiaI have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and once the Xserver starts up I loose keyboard and mouse functions06:11
Noiaany ideas?06:11
Newbyi drag and drop into the writte box06:11
tritiumHooveyy: right, because ubuntu-desktop depends on totem-gstreamer, which conflicts with totem-xine, which you just installed06:11
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JuhazOnebut i wonder where did the error msgs come from...06:12
Hooveyyubuntu-desktop is completely gone?06:12
Hooveyyx is gone?06:12
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Hooveyyits still running O_o06:12
JuhazOneit wasn't long when i last checked free space on /. must've been within a week06:12
dfcarneyNoai: is it once the Xserver starts, or after the system boots?06:12
defryskubuntu-desktop = a virtual package06:12
tritiumHooveyy: no, X is not gone.  ubuntu-deskotp is just a metapackage06:12
defryskcan be removed safely06:12
Newbysorry for be like an ignorant in the linux :( jeje06:12
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bimberirelax :)06:12
Hooveyyif i reboot i will have no gnome?06:12
tritiumHooveyy: you'll have no troubles, but you'll want to reinstall it before upgrading to edgy06:12
Hooveyyah ok06:12
tritiumHooveyy: yes, you'll still have gnome06:13
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Noiadfcarney, during boot, when the screen is red before the nice little "Ubuntu" thingy shows up I can move my mouse etc, So I suspect it happens when X or Gnome is starting up...06:13
nkassiNewby: open a terminal like this : applications->accessories->terminal06:13
defryskubuntu-desktop stands for the default set of packages for gnome on ubuntu06:13
nkassiNewby: then type : sudo apt-get install smbfs06:13
Newbyaja yep06:13
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nkassiNewby: Type your password06:13
defrysknot in here06:13
krunchi1920help me please about configuring modem connection in ubuntu06:14
Newbypasword of what?06:14
Madpilot!modem | krunchi192006:14
ubotukrunchi1920: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto06:14
nkassiNewby: type y if it ask you06:14
dfcarneyNoai: hmmm...  have you tried booting in 'single' mode and seeing if the keyboard works at the command prompt?06:14
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Newbyin ubuntu i haven any pasword, but in windows yes06:14
Noiadfcarney, yes...it does06:14
MadpilotNewby, the user password you created when Ubuntu installed06:14
Newbylogin and pasword, but just in windows06:14
wrabbit^hi guys... I'm trying to install Ubuntu on another machine with an 80gig hdd.  For some reason, when I try to partition it to have a primary / partition, a logical /home partition and a linux swap it won't allow me to do it.  Logical is greyed out and it gives me an error after it has created hda106:14
Newbyno it was automaticaly intallation of ubuntu06:15
nkassiNewby: when you installed linux it should have asked for a password. Did you enter nothing >06:15
dfcarneyNoai: hmmmm.  I can't say that I know too much about X (it's been a while since I've written a config file for it)06:15
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Noiadfcarney, the keyboard and mouse can default to standard drivers if the more advanced bluetooth systems arn't available06:15
dfcarneyNoai: but you can check the Xserver logs to see what's up06:15
MadpilotNewby, you running a LiveCD, you mean?06:15
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nkassiNewby: LiveCD ?06:15
Newbymmmm let..e.me.... thinkj.,...06:15
Newbyyeah yeah06:15
teledynwrabbit^: i would just use fdisk06:15
Noiadfcarney, I could...if I could move my mouse or use my keyboard :)06:15
Newbythe login its ubuntu and the paswird its nothing06:15
nkassiNewby: AAAHH!!06:15
Newbyyes the live cd06:16
dfcarneyNoai:  haha.  i assumed that you had a spare keyboard around06:16
wrabbit^I'll try that now teledyn06:16
nkassiAnyone knows if the liveCD has samba installed ?06:16
Noiadfcarney, nope..06:16
MadpilotNewby, OK. The LiveCD has no password, just to the 'sudo...' command and it'll work06:16
Newbyha ok06:16
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dfcarneyNoai: well, you may have a problem ;)06:16
JuhazOneoh well. thanks guys.06:17
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Digityhi everyone06:17
Newbyand now i got opend the terminal06:17
Noiadfcarney, and its Noia not Noai :P you'r not setting off my highlight, hehe06:18
dfcarneyNoia: sorry about that06:18
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dfcarneyNoia: have you searched around the web for answers/forums?06:18
Noiadfcarney, no worries :) now...do you know if I can fiddle with the boot options to get it to work?06:18
nkassiNewby: then type : sudo apt-get install smbfs06:18
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dfcarneyNoia: well, if it works before X starts up then you're probably right in that it's a problem with the X config file06:19
Newbysudo apt-get install smbfs??? this???06:19
Noiadfcarney, it might also be gnomes fault06:19
Newbytell me06:19
dfcarneyNoia: it could just be that X is setup to expect a "standard" mouse and keyboard06:19
nkassiYep exactly06:19
nickuCould some one help me with a problem.. how can i change the startup in ubuntu so that is boots up to console not X06:19
nkassiNewby: "sudo apt-get install smbfs"06:19
wrabbit^teledyn: done, thanks for the suggestion06:20
Noiadfcarney, well.. at the moment, the boot sequence goes as follows:06:20
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nkassiNewby: copy paste what is between the quotes06:20
Hooveyyim bord.06:20
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Hooveyyah crap wrong channel06:20
hilzhi. i recently installed ubuntu, but i don't seem to find an ssh server installed by default. is there one or do i need to install one?06:20
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Gog123is oracle buying up canonical?06:20
nkassiGog123: what makes you think that ?06:21
Gog123because of google news06:21
Noiadfcarney: Boot loader, booting sequence, Red screen with cursor (at this point I can move the mouse), Ubuntu Logo for Gnome loader shows up (mouse dies here...), Gnome finishes loading and mouse/kb remains dead06:21
tritiumhilz: you need to install openssh-server06:21
Gog123Ubuntu chief: Oracle Linux has 'tactical value'06:21
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Gog123Shuttleworth, speaking on the eve of the Oracle OpenWorld conference, wouldn't comment on a report that Oracle plans to use Ubuntu Linux or on whether Canonical is working on a partnership.06:22
nkassiGog123: woooooooh!06:22
Newbyit appears ; unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:22
dfcarneyNoia: do you know much about LILO or Grub boot options?06:22
Rookie_Gog123 - your source for this info is ... ?06:22
hilztritium: thanks. when i install it, does it take care of opening port 22 for it automatically?06:22
Gog123zdnet australia is one06:22
nkassiNewby: Yikes, my suggestion is to install ubuntu06:22
Noiadfcarney, some...but it should be noted, this is the Live CD...I can't acctualy install without the use of my mouse/kb >.<06:22
Gog123cnet news is another :06:22
Newbythick that too!!06:23
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boris55ubuntu won't go commercial will it?06:23
nkassiNewby: the liveCD is nice but things will work better with a real installation06:23
Newbyyou said if with the samnba copuld doit dont you?06:23
krunchi1920help regarding dialup , wvdial does not do after dialing just only refuses connection after some time. same isp works well with windows xp06:23
withaYpfft.  maybe a partnership, but elllison has stated many times before in the past that he has no interest in buying a linux distro because he wouldn't have control over intellect. prop.06:23
Gog123if oracle takes over canonical this could lift ubuntu up06:23
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Gog123as LONG as it remains opensource which it will06:23
Gog123oracle wants to sell databases :)06:24
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dfcarneyNoia: sometimes it doesn't matter.  the bootloader and system can use different drivers (through the BIOS or through the kernel).  Just because a keyboard works at startup doesn't mean that it'll work later on.  perhaps the system tries to switch modes and doesn't realize that it lost support.06:24
tritiumhilz: yes06:24
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nkassiGog123: I could install it at work then ;0)06:24
Gog123nkassi:  even if oracle bought up canonical sake of argument, nothing would change06:24
Noiadfcarney, perhaps06:24
dfcarneyNoia: i don't know much about the LiveCD, however.06:24
nkassiNewby: Samba can do it.  I use it all the time.06:24
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Gog123except ubuntu would be even better funded :)06:24
maxflaxok.. ubuntu reinstalled.. soon i'll be a pro on installing linux.. :06:24
Pelog'night folks06:24
nkassiGog123: My boss wouldn't be scared ;-)06:24
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dfcarneyNoia: it's a curious problem06:24
boris55shuttleworth need the money?06:25
Gog123nkassi with google kicking arse06:25
Noiadfcarney, do you know if bluetooth is supported in the live CD? or that the gnome packages used in the live CD have the bluetooth extention installed?06:25
Gog123linux has to be the next thing06:25
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dfcarneyNoia: my recommendation: try to boot it with the 'single' boot option and see if the keyboard works and/or get a PS2 or USB keyboard and take a look at the X server logs06:25
Gog123so some deals and consolidation will likely happen06:25
nkassiGog123: It's either Oracle buys cannonical or rereleases RHEL06:25
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Newbythe weir thing it that, actually i CAN SEE it the folders of my domine group06:25
Gog123just how it works06:25
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hilztritium: thanks, i just installed it and it does seem to work! right after installation! that's amazing! no need to configure anything. Thank you thank you!06:25
Newbyand the shared folders's06:25
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Gog123nkassi:  we shall see06:25
tritiumhilz: :)06:25
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dfcarneynoia: i don't know, though bluetooth support is certainly a kernel-level detail.  the gnome stuff likely doesn't care at all...as long as it gets I/O06:26
maxflaxThis time.. no tinkering or crap.. first im gonna try is those from hell born.. alsa drivers 1.0.13 may they decendent back to the flames of satans wrath06:26
nkassiNewby: I admin, it weird. It should just open up and ask for your windows password06:26
`m0hi what does this mean?06:26
`m0vpnc: error: deobfuscating of password failed (input not a hex string)06:26
nkassiNewby: I think it's an issue with the livecd06:26
Gog123nkassi:  The one good thing is that ubuntu is being more recognized06:26
Noiadfcarney, thats what I thought but apparently gnome has some bluetooth stuff: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/06:26
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nkassiNewby: I admit, it weird. It should just open up and ask for your windows password06:26
Gog123so all this publicity is positive06:26
Gog123cant wait till ubuntu final is out06:27
boris55ubuntu community has gained critical mass really quickly06:27
dfcarneynoia: ugh.06:27
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Vuenquestion, how can i defrag my vfat partition?06:27
nkassi`m0: error in your config i believe06:27
Newbyyeah.. but nothig jeje06:27
tritiumGog123: you mean "edgy"?  There have been previous releases, you know ;)06:27
boris55oracle already owns miracle linux.06:27
dfcarneynoia: i really don't know how to help you out with this one...  i haven't touched bluetooth on Linux ever06:27
`m0nkassi: but what should I lookin my config06:27
Rookie_  quotes ...that Oracle plans to use Ubuntu Linux or on whether Canonical is working on a partnership....06:27
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maxflaxbtw, which is the latest working kernel for ubuntu.. I have 2.6.17-10-386.. but I think I saw 2.6.18-10 somehwere06:28
nkassi`m0: I think they mean the group password, let me look at my config06:28
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luisitowill Edgy Eft be compatible with intel macs?06:28
nkassi`m0: maybe look at IPSec secret06:28
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ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:28
tritiummaxflax, luisito: edgy questions in #ubuntu+106:28
Noiadfcarney, well...I can pretty much confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/6732106:28
`m0mkassi: I will look at the sourcecode :p http://svn.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/vpnc/trunk/config.c06:29
luisitook thansk06:29
boris55i bet oracle gets certified to run on ububtu but it won't be a 100% oracle linux stack.06:29
maxflaxtritium, no one talking in that channel..06:29
nkassi`m0: It's a cryptic error  I admit.06:29
`m0why doesn't linux people COMMENT their code06:29
tritiummaxflax: sure there are06:29
nkassi`m0: it's self documenting ;0)06:29
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tritiummaxflax: you're not even in there06:29
dfcarneynoia: ah, well at least a bug was filed about it06:30
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maxflaxtritium, always when im in there.. there are alots of quesions but never any answers.. but I can ask there aswell06:30
dfcarneynoia: maybe you should contact "jbebel@jabber.mybox.org" and see if he figured it out06:30
`m0ret = hex2bin(config[obfuscated] , &bin, &len);06:30
`m0yea it gets stuck here i guess06:30
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dfcarneynoia: i really have no clue...it's the kind of problem that i'd like to debug, but only if i had access to the system06:31
boris55ubuntu enterprise linux right around the corner?06:31
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Vaske_Carhow to install package with .package extension?06:31
Noiadfcarney: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/32415 <-- has a work around in one of the comments06:31
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nkassi`m0: I wonder what obfuscated stand for06:32
NewRhymeHey...does anyone know about MPLayer's lib files, needed for dapper?06:32
Noianow, if I can prevent the bluez libs from loading at start up, then this should work fine06:32
martyndahi, i can't get mod_php5 to load with apache, can someone help me out? when i click on a php file on localhost, it wants to download it06:32
dfcarneynoia: nice06:32
wickedpuppynkassi, you got to see obfuscated c contest then06:32
nkassimartynda: which apache version ?06:33
Vuenquestion, is there a utility in ubuntu to defrag a vfat partition?06:33
nkassiwickedpuppy: I love being sane ;0)06:33
martyndai do have libapache2-mod-php506:33
`m0the comp is confused ;)06:33
dfcarneynoia: probably not too hard.  it's likely started somewhere under /etc/init.d06:33
jman_would anyone be willing to take a second to help me out with Samba?06:33
Vaske_Car.package  how to install?06:33
Rookie_Vuen - nope06:33
dfcarneyjman_: just post your question -- if people can help, they will :)06:33
Vuenalright then. looks like i'll be rebooting into windows :/06:34
jman_ I have samba configured as a PDC but whenever I try to join the domain it says it can't find the username on the domain even though I already created the user using smbpasswd, am I missing something here?06:34
nkassicheck /etc/apache2/mods-enabled06:34
boris55so 10/26 we can talk about edgy here?06:34
nkassimartynda: check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled06:34
tritiumboris55: yes, when it's released06:34
jman_I also created the root user using smbpasswd -a06:34
Rookie_linux has no need for defrag (just read about why) so there is no utility developed06:34
Tomcat_Rookie_: Why, anyway? :)06:34
Rookie_io addressing06:34
boris55thanks tritium.06:35
Tomcat_Rookie_: Any website? I'd like to know details...06:35
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Rookie_just google it - its about how a hdd is built and how a filesystem works06:35
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martyndankassi: is there supposed to be a php.load or something in there?06:35
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Rookie_microsoft has volumes, linux har partitions06:36
Tomcat_Rookie_: Thanks.06:36
dfcarneyRookie_: i can't see why, say, EXT3 couldn't defrag...06:36
nkassimartynda: hum, there should be a line in mods-available, I think you need to add it to mods-enabled06:36
dfcarneyRookie_: i just googled it and found an active project for an EX3 defrag app06:36
Newbynkassi the ubuntu it good06:37
nkassimartynda: scratch that06:37
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Newbyit my very firt time thta im ising the ubuntu and ith very veryu good06:37
nkassiNewby: sorry, I didn't understand that.06:37
dfcarneyRookie_: doesn't defragging a hard disk simply move allocated blocks to the start of the partition?06:37
Rookie_linux puts the files in a specific sector on the hdd, and then address it and it wont move the file either06:37
Vaske_CarI downloaded software with ".package" extension, how to install it? In Debian I used dpkg - i but it does not work with Ubuntu...06:37
nkassiNewby: Glad you like it.06:37
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tritiumVaske_Car: dpkg does not install .package files, even on debian06:37
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dfcarneyRookie_: ah, i see what you're talking about.06:38
dfcarneyRookie_: i'll read up on it.  thanks.06:38
nkassimartynda: so you said you installed libapache2-php5 ?06:38
tnncis there an wat to tell what my video card is it is onboard one06:38
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martyndankassi: yes, there is a mods-avaliable with php5.load in there06:39
Vaske_Cartritium, it was for .deb files, sorry. Do you know what does install .package on Ubuntu?06:39
IcemanV9tnnc: lspci06:39
dfcarneyRookie_: wait a minute...defrag is still useful for linux file systems06:39
bimberitnnc: lspci | grep VGA06:39
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tritiumVaske_Car: nope.  What are you trying to install?06:40
Vaske_Cartririum, xaraextreme.org06:40
nkassimartynda: try copying it to mods-enabled and then restarting apache206:40
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dfcarneyRookie_: think about it: if i want to guarantee that all of my data is written to a consecutive series of sectors (closest to sector 0 of the disk) then i'd need to have an application that could move data around...06:40
tritiumVaske_Car: that's packaged up as a .deb in edgy06:40
nkassimartynda: oh and make sure php5 is installed06:41
tritiumVaske_Car: if you upgrade to edgy, when it's released as stable in 4 days, you'll be able to install it via apt-get or synaptic06:41
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dfcarneyRookie_: the problem is common to both Windows FAT and Linux EXT file systems, isn't it?06:41
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tnncicemanv9 thanks06:41
nkassimartynda: try sudo a2enmod php506:42
Rookie_dfcarney - you mean when a new prog/app will be installed and the hdd begining to be full ? thats not a problem ... the system will move the file and make space if its necessery - but only when the hdd begins to be full (bevlieve it is 90%)06:42
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IcemanV9tnnc: yw :)06:42
martyndankassi: it's enabled, but still tries to dl the php file06:42
Vaske_Cartritium, I do not want to upgrade again and reconfigure all my stuff :(06:42
Vaske_Cartritium, just spent day doing that  :)06:42
Rookie_dfcarney - nope, never been a problem in linux or unix .... wonder why ;) ?06:42
tnncicemanv9 it shows it as an cirrus logic GD 5480  the res is only 800x600 is there an way to change this06:42
tritiumVaske_Car: upgrading doesn't require reconfiguring06:42
defryskVaske_Car, http://autopackage.org/ for explanation .package is not supported by ubuntu06:42
martyndankassi: nm, works now, thanks a lot for your help06:42
nkassimartynda: great.06:43
IcemanV9!resolution > tnnc06:43
dfcarneyRookie_: i'm simply saying that there are uses for applications that can "defrag" a Linux partition.  for instance, if you wanted to split it in two then you want to guarantee that your data is in a big block at the beginning (or end)06:43
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dfcarneyRookie_: please, enlighten me :)  i'm curious06:43
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nkassiGood night folks.06:44
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Rookie_this is far OT :) and its way to early in the morning (6:40 am)06:44
nkassiOr day for the non Eastern time zone folks.06:44
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dfcarneyRookie_: fair enough, though I reserve the right to say that I don't believe your claims :)  That said, I'll look into it for myself.06:45
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tritiumj_ack: please disable that06:45
Rookie_up to you to belive or not ...06:45
tnncicemanv9 yes resolution is only 800x600 and i wondering if i can get it better and how06:46
dfcarneyRookie_: yup, but it's up to people making claims to support them.06:46
IcemanV9tnnc: read what ubotu just send (about resolution) in pm06:46
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dfcarneyRookie_: anyhow, thanks for the insight.  i'll read up on it.  have a good night.06:47
tnncicemanv9 not sure how to do that where is find it06:47
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:47
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IcemanV9tnnc: last sentence should do the trick :)06:48
Vaske_Cartritium, i downloaded diferent package, in unpacked folder I have folders: BIN, MIME-STORAGE, SHARE... is it possible to install with this?06:48
tnncicemanv9 thanks06:48
Geoffrey2I'm trying to apt-get, and I'm getting an error that it can't open the lock file, can't lock the administration directory, am i root?06:48
dfcarneyGeoffrey2: well, how are you running the command?  as root?  are you using 'sudo'?06:49
tritiumVaske_Car: sorry, I can't help you with .package files.  Again, xara is in edgy.  Please consider upgrading06:49
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IcemanV9sudo apt-get06:49
Rookie_dfcarney - heres a good description - http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting06:49
wrabbit^ sudo apt-get install a bullet in my head06:50
wrabbit^I wish there weren't so many distros to choose from06:50
jbmigel_wrabbit^ ubuntu is a pretty good pick are you just getting started with linux?06:52
IcemanV9now, you don't have to, wrabbit^. ubuntu is it. :)06:52
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wrabbit^jbmigel_: I've been playing with linux for a month or so now. I have Kanotix on this machine and Ubuntu on my other.  Zenwalk on the laptop.06:52
wrabbit^Just too many to play with06:52
wrabbit^and I never get any work done cos I'm downloading and getting distros setup. :06:53
chewyis there any way i can run a program on a kernel event06:53
dfcarneyRookie_: that doesn't address one of the benefits of defragging a hard disk :)  Sure, defragging a disk helps performance (in Windows), but it also tends to move all of the allocated blocks to the beginning of the partition/block/whatever.  If I want to split the partition then I need to do this.06:53
chewylike every time iptables posts an event, run a prog06:53
Rookie_not if u use lvm06:53
dfcarneyRookie_: So, for performance reasons Linux does not need a defragger, but if you want to split a partition then you do.06:53
ESPOiGis there a way to edit files with vi or something while in grub06:53
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JaytheGreathey guys06:53
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jbmigel_wrabbit^ i played around with most of them for about a year. then i got tired of installing/reinstalling all the time, now i just use ubuntu and automatix and have working sys in 30mins06:54
wrabbit^ESPOiG: Not sure but try pressing 5 when the grub menu comes up06:54
dfcarneyRookie_: haha.  how many people use LVM nowadays? :)06:54
phireIf I have a folder of deb's on my computer, can I set it up as a repo for apt-get06:54
ESPOiGwrabbit^, thx06:54
dfcarneyRookie_: anyhow, this is totally off topic06:54
Vaske_Cartritium, installed :) - had just to install imagemagick in order to be able to run xara06:54
Flanneljbmigel_, wrabbit^,don't recommend automatix here.06:54
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dfcarneyRookie_: i'm willing to bet that NOBODY uses VFAT over LVM for their Linux environment :)06:54
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akant2do any of you use iFolder in production?06:54
wrabbit^I don't use automatix but I don't see anything wrong with it.06:54
ubotuAutomatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!06:54
wrabbit^ESPOiG: it may not work but try.06:54
chewyso is it possible?06:55
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Flannelwrabbit^: it breaks peoples systems beyond repair06:55
chewythat every time my iptables wall makes a log for me to get some code running06:55
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chewywith the info in the event06:55
bh_Anybody know what the status of etch is yet ?06:55
Flannelbh_: you might try #debian06:55
talioshola - has anyone here had issues with mounting an ipod under edgy?  I just noticed it no longer gets mounted ('no configuration chosen from 1 choice' shown in logs)06:55
wrabbit^Flannel: Nothing is beyond repair. :)06:56
talios(not sure if edgy discussion is valid here tho..?)06:56
Flannelwrabbit^: no, automatix makes things beyond repair06:56
crimsunmark, #ubuntu+106:56
Flanneltalios: you'd be better off asking in #ubuntu+106:56
talioscrimsun: ah yeh...  cheers06:56
wrabbit^jbmigel_: I know how that is.  I just want something that works. So Ubuntu, Kanotix and Zenwalk(most of the time) all work for me.  I'm just tempted to try others like SuSe and Fedora06:56
wrabbit^Flannel: sounds scary06:56
jbmigel_Flannel i think that bashing something is worse than recommending it06:56
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JaytheGreatmy ubuntu freezes almost every time i use it :-(06:57
Flanneljbmigel_: it's not bashing, it's being honest.06:57
wrabbit^Flannel: has somebody addressed this problem?06:57
jbmigel_Flannel well it worked wonders for me the first time, that is me being honest06:57
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ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:58
Vaske_Caris there a way how to increase default toolbar size and font size for using Ubuntu with high resolutions06:58
jbmigel_Flannel ubuntu works for me06:58
Vaske_Carlike DPI setting in Windows06:58
bh_Where can I get information on the next major release of Ubuntu ?06:58
Flannelwrabbit^: it's not an ubuntu product, we have no control over it.06:58
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:58
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bh_particularly the more experimental branches06:58
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wrabbit^Flannel: No I mean, has anybody confronted the developers.  Via email or whatever06:58
wrabbit^and are they doing anything about it06:59
Keyseir_nkassi: You there?06:59
Flannelwrabbit^: we can talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic06:59
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wrabbit^Yep, sorry. Didn't mean to go off topic in support06:59
Keyseir_What are C headers and how do I install them?07:00
Keyseir_A vmware installation script isn't finding them in the default place.07:00
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: as in "kernel headers" ?07:00
Keyseir_dfcarney: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running07:00
Keyseir_kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 07:00
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Keyseir_dfcarney: The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.07:00
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: C headers are just "header files" -- they contain the interface information for function calls, global variable definitions, etc...  when compiling a C program the compiler needs to refer to them to figure out where stuff it.07:01
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dfcarneyKeyseir): ... stuff *is07:01
Keyseir_dfcarney: I already have the correct linux-headers installed07:01
dfcarneyKeyseir_: does /usr/src/linux/include exist?07:02
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: actually, what directories are under /usr/src/linux ?07:02
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Keyseir_dfcarney: /linux doens't exist. "linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386  translucency.tar.bz207:03
Keyseir_" are under /usr/src/07:03
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|thunderSweet. New Venture Bros is on.07:03
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[BTF] Chm0dhey guys where is the kernel source for ubuntu?  I am trying to install the beta drivers for nvidia card and it cannot find the kernel source?07:04
dfcarneyKeyseir_: what's under linux-headers-2.6.12-10 ?  is that the kernel that you're currently using?07:04
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Keyseir_dfcarney: uname -r = 2.6.15-27-386 , but when I ran apt-get install for those linux headers it said it was the latest version..07:04
JaytheGreatdoes anybody know why my ubuntu freezes sometimes and can never properly shut down?07:05
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: hmmmm.07:05
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Oh wait, something changed07:05
ArrenLexKeyseir: AFAIK you don't need the kernel source to build drivers; only the headers.07:05
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: well, you could try and create a soft-link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10... and see what happens (but that's an evil hack)07:05
Keyseir_drcarney: Now it says it isn't installed, so I'm installing the new linux headers. I sweared a minute ago I ran something for that and it was new07:06
jonkelleHi all.  Does anyone know of a repository containing OOo2.0.4 for Dapper?  I'm going to wait about a day before I alien it in.  But I would prefer to point apt a good repository.07:06
dfcarneyKeyseir_: ok.07:06
cyberim starting to enjoy linux now but any way07:06
ArrenLexjonkelle: you can download debs for it from the openoffice site... hold on, let me find it...07:06
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Sorry to ask for help with something I must have missed.07:06
dfcarneyKeyseir_: no problem.  we've all been there :)07:06
IcemanV9JaytheGreat: you may want to check the syslog or dmesg for some clues07:06
[BTF] Chm0danyone?07:06
Keyseir_dfcarney: =)07:06
omacJaytheGreat...I have seen ubuntu seem to freeze at shutdown when you have external usb drives on and not ejected/unmounted.  If you do wait, it eventually unmounts and shuts down gracefully.  If you don't like the delay, unmount/eject the external usb drives.07:06
dfcarneyjonkelle: you could change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to backports.org...07:07
JaytheGreatI don't have any usb drives07:07
cyber209mb of update's07:07
dfcarneyjonkelle: they've got OOo2.x for Debian sarge... they may have a port for Ubuntu07:07
cyberis what i get thismorning07:07
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cyberi dont know if i should update or not07:07
oxdotanybody ever heard about a generic driver for a panasonic (kx-p7100 - win) laser printer ?07:07
cybermy bro might get a little irratated07:08
JaytheGreatIcemanV9, how do I check my syslog or dmesg? i'm on XP now anyway07:08
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Vaske_Carwhere to read new stuff implemented into Edgy??07:08
Keyseir_dfcarney: I'm glad I went with ubuntu opposed to say, Debian. Ubuntu IRC support > Debian IRC support... by a fucking long shot07:08
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:08
jonkelleI was wondering if there was a backports site with 2.0.4 on it already.07:08
IcemanV9JaytheGreat: /var/log/syslog and type "dmesg" in the terminal07:08
dfcarneyKeyseir_: yup.  I learned Linux on Debian...thankfully, I had a couple of friends who started with Slackware, so they knew the ropes.07:08
Keyseir_dfcarney: I need to make myself learn more. Ubuntu is too easy on me.07:09
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: haha.  that's the point, isn't it?07:09
[BTF] Chm0dcan anyone tell me where the kernel source files are located for ubuntu?  nvidia drivers cannot find them?07:09
jbmigel_Keyseir_ gentoo is a good learning distro07:09
Keyseir_dfcarney: But whenever I have a problem I have to come crying to this channel07:09
dfcarney[BTF] Chm0d: you likely need to install them07:09
JaytheGreatI'm still having trouble installing programs on linux07:09
[BTF] Chm0dthey have been installed07:10
Keyseir_dfcarney: That's no good.07:10
JaytheGreatie Flash, or any program for that matter07:10
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:10
noiadfcarney: I got it working07:10
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: well, there are tonnes of books about Linux out there.  O'Reilly is a good place to start07:10
cyberwouldnt sudo apt-get install flash get it???07:10
JaytheGreatI've read all the methods to install flash, but none of them work07:10
cyberi dont know im new to this :/07:10
wickedpuppyJaytheGreat, you got problem typing sudo apt-get install programname ?07:10
Keyseir_dfcarney: nods07:10
dfcarneynoia: good work -- promotions all around!07:10
JaytheGreatI always get an error07:10
noiadfcarney: apparently what happens is that there is a problem in bluez.util. when it runs its HCI restart script, my bluetooth hub freezes...07:11
Keyseir_dfcarney: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Should I direct this to my newly created linux headers dir?07:11
cyberJaytheGreat, open synaptic & find flash :P07:11
ArrenLexjonkelle: no, can't find it. Nevermind.07:11
JaytheGreatthen I did another method: i did one of those tricks "mk dir mozilla" (or whatever it is) and tried to get Firefox to install flash for me, but i still got an error07:11
dfcarneynoia: ah, interesting07:11
noiadfcarney: was a simple task of restarting in and then removing bluez07:11
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omacJaythegreat: cp flash* /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/;cp libflash* /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/07:11
dfcarneyKeyseir_: yeah, try that.  if that fails, i suggest creating a soft-link yourself.07:11
JaytheGreatok guys I'm gonna boot into ubuntu so i can try this07:11
cyberany way07:11
rbilKeyseir, ok, if it's so easy for you, you can probably help me. I'm building a NAS server. It will be using external USB hard drives that will be constantly attached and unattached from the box. Since this is a server box, no X anywhere in site, the drives will automount thanks to udev. BUT, we don't want to have to worry about what USB port a particular drive is plugged into and we want a fstab that will always be correct regardless of the 07:12
rbilome udev rules are in order. Good approach?07:12
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Cyber_Schoolill see you later on07:12
Cyber_Schooli need to actually get an education07:12
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Keyseir_rbil: What I was trying to say is that everyday operating is so easy that whenever I have a problem I am unprepared. Read: I need to make myself learn more about linux because ubuntu isn't forcing me too very often.07:12
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rbilKeyseir, well I thought I'd force you a bit. :-)07:13
tnnccan someone suggest an video card to use with 6.06 but not an high end card07:13
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Keyseir_rbil: Yar.07:14
Keyseir_rbil: So uh, what does NAS mean? ;-)07:14
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noiacould anyone recomend a decent terminal font?07:14
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Geoffrey2has anyone here tried to BitTorrent download OpenOffice.org?07:15
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lampshadedoes democracy player fail really hard for anyone else in dapper or just me?  Like doesn't play videos.  Locks up frequently, etc?07:15
wickedpuppyi have ... why ?07:15
wickedpuppylampshade, vlc ...07:15
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Keyseir_dfcarney: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-38607:16
Keyseir_The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.07:16
lampshadewickedpuppy: vlc interacts with Democracy's stuff?  or am I going to be manually downloading lots and stuff?07:16
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Keyseir_dfcarney: And then it's back to the original prompt. Should I look into that "soft link" thing?07:16
Geoffrey2I'd like to download the two Open Office .iso files, but they're only available via BitTorrent, and I've never used BitTorrent before07:16
wickedpuppylampshade, no no .. vlc is a video player ... which i recommend ...07:16
dfcarneyAh, how about " /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386/include" ?07:17
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Vaske_Carwow first time in my life I have everything in Linux and do not need Windows no more :)07:17
wickedpuppyGeoffrey2, welcome to the internet :P07:17
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: hold on...lemme check something out.07:17
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nerCould you tell me normal keyboard layot switcher for KDE? =)07:18
lampshadewickedpuppy: right, and democracy is MORE than a video player.  That's my point.  I hate when people recommend a solution that's not a solution.  It is like asking for a web browser and someone responding with wget.....  yeah sure wget download webpages... but it isnt' the same.  (I also already frequently use VLC which is why I asked if there was some way I didn't know about where it did the job of subscribing, etc that democracy07:18
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wickedpuppylampshade, my apology ...07:18
Corporal_DirgeOk, I can't take this anymore. Whenever I'm browsing through a folder with a .swf file Nautilus crashes.07:18
JaytheGreatand ubuntu froze again...................07:18
whysothats odd i played a song in VLC, and closed it but the song goes on :)07:18
RancidLMhey all i accedently deleted a backup on one of my servers.. nothing to important was lost but is there a way to recover something thats been deleted on a ext3 partition (i think)?07:19
wickedpuppynope i can't help you with democracy player there07:19
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Bingo on the /include =D07:19
crimsunwhyso: known issue for Dapper's wxvlc.07:19
dfcarneyKeyseir_: ah, good07:19
wickedpuppylampshade, i also did not know you used vlc before and so on ... again my apologies07:19
ArrenLexRancidLM: no, there is no way to recover files deleted from ext3 partitions; they are overwritten pretty thoroughly.07:19
whysocrimsun: any fix?07:20
wickedpuppywhyso, killall wxvlc ... thats normally how i solve that problem07:20
RancidLMArrenLex: thats what i was a fraid of.. thnx!07:20
lampshadewickedpuppy: sorry, I kinda flipped out there too--just frustrated with lockups and such from this program you know07:20
whysowickedpuppy: k thanx07:20
dfcarneyArrenLex: well, you can always try to read the raw bits from recently de-allocated inodes, but that will drive you crazy07:20
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ArrenLexRancid: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html#undelete (if you don't believe me)07:20
omacJayTheGreat:  How long has it been since you cleaned the insides of your computer i.e. your cpu fans, power supply fans, graphics card fans.07:21
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crimsunwhyso: it's already fixed in Edgy's07:21
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Keyseir_dfcarney: Whoa, we appear to be running vmware!07:21
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RancidLMhow can i tell what partition is a drive in a shell prompt07:21
JaytheGreatMY case is off now but XP never freezes07:21
dfcarneyKeyseir_: good stuff07:21
mneptonRancidLM: df -h07:22
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JaytheGreatmy case doesn't have much dust in it... it's a bran new hard drive07:22
wickedpuppyJaytheGreat, xp never freezes cause it crashes ... jk jk :P07:22
Keyseir_dfcarney: I think I learned some things along the way, but thanks to your and nkassi's advice I haven't had to bang my head against the wall too much.07:22
Squirrelshow do i make transparent terminals07:22
RancidLMmnepton: thats what i thought but its just showing me mount points and size rather then the fomrated filesystem type07:23
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dfcarneyKeyseir_: yeah, messing around with build issues (related to headers, kernel stuff, etc...) is pretty painful07:23
noiawhat are some security measures I can take to secure my ubuntu install?07:23
rbilRancidLM, fdisk -l07:23
JaytheGreatI wonder why ubuntu freezes...07:23
mneptonRancidLM: sudo fdisk -l07:23
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: do you have power-management enabled in the BIOS?  Sometimes, that can cause startup/shutdown issues07:24
wickedpuppynoia, you can shutdown unnecessary services and so on and on.. google for linux security .. also get bastille if you are paranoid07:24
omacJayTheGreat: ok so, what were your last actions on the mouse and keyboard when your computer froze.  Please confirm your cpu, gpu, box fans are all dust-free.  I don't care about your new hard drive.07:24
RancidLMmnepton: ok thnx!07:24
JaytheGreatok let me check07:24
JaytheGreatabout the dust07:24
noiawickedpuppy: hmm07:24
noiawickedpuppy: you wouldn't happen to know anything about XGL would you?07:25
wickedpuppynoia, #ubuntu-xgl07:25
Squirrelshow do i get transparent terminals?07:25
tnncanyone can suggest an cheap video card that woks good in ubuntu07:25
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wickedpuppynoia, i did try it with sled 10 ... not with ubuntu07:25
Rookie_tnnc - riva tnt207:25
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dfcarneytnnc: any nVidia or ATI card that's 2+ years old07:26
JaytheGreatwell, there are small amounts of dust but nothing major07:26
wickedpuppyi suggest nvidia ...07:26
oxdottnnc : whats the purpose of the card ? Desktop ?07:26
rbiltnnc, you want cheap, get a 16MB Matrox G400 - it'll have to be used and sold around ebay for like $1007:26
mneptontnnc: where are you geographically?07:26
mneptonrbil: that's funny. i asked about his location because Tiger Direct in Canada has the G450 dual-head for $2.99 new :)07:27
tnncmnepton i am in usa in TN07:27
rbilok, bidding on ebay might push up the price07:27
Geoffrey2ok, I see the BIttorrent version in the repos is out of date, can I get a newer version through the repos or do I download the version from bittorrent's website?07:27
mneptontnnc: let's see if TigerDirect in the USA can hook you up07:27
mneptonHOLY ..... !!!07:28
wickedpuppyGeoffrey2, get ktorrent or azureus ... i used both and they are both damn good ... azureus got java slowness07:28
mneptonthat's ... insane.07:28
JaytheGreatis the small amount of dust causing my ubuntu to lock up?? is this related to the fact that I can never properly shut down?07:28
rbilmnepton, maybe I'll order half a dozen. great card for 2d Linux. Nice dual monitors.07:28
mcquaidhello, i had an old pci card and now put in a nvidia card07:28
mneptonrbil: check that URL07:28
rbilI'm in Canada07:28
mcquaidi ran the dpkg xorg-server reconfigure thing and everything seemed to go ok07:28
jbmigel_JaytheGreat have you tried running the memtest from grub?07:28
mneptonrbil: and prepare to change your pants.07:28
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JaytheGreatno, but I did it before once07:29
mcquaidbut it asked me about the busid and it still defaulted to the old card instead of agp07:29
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mneptonrbil: just hot up tigerdirect.ca and search for "matrox" (it's the only product they have)07:29
JaytheGreatand cancelled it halfway through. I couldn't understand any of it07:29
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mnepton*hit up07:29
tnncare not those cards apg07:29
dfcarneyjbigmel_: odds are that it's not a memory problem if it only happens on shutdown.  my guess is that the kernel is trying to shut down the system with a call to the power management layer in the BIOS.07:29
mcquaidwasn't sure of the syntax to indicate agp, and I checked in dmesg and agpgart is loaded so it probably doesn't make a difference but I'd like to set it properly07:29
jbmigel_JaytheGreat maybe try letting it run once, if you have a bad ram stick it will find it07:30
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dfcarneyjbigmel_: i've seen the problem before; it happened to me for a while too.07:30
mneptontnnc: yes, they are agp07:30
mcquaidalso it asked me the amount of memory in KB of my card and I just hit enter, was is the syntax for this in xorg.conf?07:30
rbilnice price :-)07:30
JaytheGreatmy computer also randomly freezes quite often07:30
BlongGeeIs Linux worth the learning curve07:30
Geoffrey2wickedpuppy, if I install ktorrent, should I take out the bittorrent client?07:30
tnncok minbe doesnt have an slot for one of those07:30
mneptonrbil: no kidding, eh? the americans get them *free*.07:30
mcquaidI'd like to still enter it, again not sure if it helps07:30
tnncas i think i have one of those here somewhere07:30
jbmigel_BlongGee no i would suggest you give up learning anything and become a potato07:30
rbilBlongGee, is dating a girl for a month, spending money on lunches, sending her flowers, worth it?07:30
mcquaidJaytheGreat, my brothers machine kept freezing and it turns out it was an acpi issue07:30
omacBlonGee: yes emphatically.07:30
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dfcarneyJaytheGreat: ah, well then...could be the disk controller too.  in that case, jbigmel_'s suggestion makes total sense -- check the RAM07:30
JaytheGreatwhat's acpi?07:31
ArrenLexBlongGee: a linux IRC channel is not the most unbiased place to ask that.07:31
mneptontnnc: good luck. PCI video cards are few and far between. you might be able to find a TNT2.07:31
mcquaidhe turned that off and no more crashes, no clue what your issue is though but could help07:31
ArrenLexI have a PCI video card. I hate it.07:31
JaytheGreatdfcarney, you're suggesting I do a memory test under grub?07:31
ArrenLexStupid ATI. Can't make it work with 3d.07:31
mcquaidthere is a pci version of the fx5500 i think07:31
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ArrenLexTrade you.07:31
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BlongGee<rbil> no woman ain't worth it lol07:31
rbilwell Ubuntu is worth it07:31
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: ACPI -- Advanced Configuration and Power Interface.  There's also APM -- Advanced Power Management07:32
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: but, yeah, a memtest is a good place to start07:32
BlongGeenice anology tho07:32
ArrenLexrbil & BlongGee: I find it absolutely hilarious that you are comparing installing Linux to having a girlfriend. And not surprised.07:32
JaytheGreathow do yall get so profecient07:32
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JaytheGreatok guys, i'm going to reboot and do a mem test. what should I be looking out for?07:32
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dfcarneyJaytheGreat: experience is a good teacher07:32
mcquaidJaytheGreat, before doing a memtest disable acpi07:32
Rookie_Linux does what you tell it to do, a girlfrined have their own will ...07:33
JaytheGreatok, how do i do that?07:33
mcquaida memtest takes hours07:33
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rbilanyone who gets into GNU/Linux in a serious way, won't have a girlfriend for long07:33
mneptonArrenLex / tnnc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681415006407:33
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tnncthanks to all who reply07:33
dfcarneymcquaid: i'm curious, why do you want him to disable it before the memtest?07:33
ArrenLexRookie_: if only Linux did what you told it to do. Then none of us would be here.07:33
Rookie_hehe, true07:33
bugi have a quick suggestion/gripe, if anyone here has anything to do with the ubuntu wiki....07:33
Troy_McClureanyone able to help answer a question for me?07:34
JaytheGreatmemtest takes hours??? :-(07:34
BlongGeeif my box had a vagina I wouldnt need woman.....can linux provide?07:34
omacJayTheGreat...don't do the memtest...the fact you made the ubuntu run...your mem is ok...it's something else..maybe ACPI disabled is a good bet.07:34
ArrenLexmneopton: but that, ah, costs... what is it called... money.07:34
dfcarneymcquaid: memtest certainly won't make a BIOS call to activate APM or ACPI07:34
mcquaidbecause one is much quicker, and I've known a few users with acpi issues and bad ram is pretty rare07:34
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: yup.  count on 1-2 hours07:34
mcquaidok maybe I missed something your getting random lockups right?07:34
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Troy_McCluredoes the fglrx drivers support an r480? the dri wiki isn't to clear on it07:34
JaytheGreatyes, random lock ups07:34
mcquaidok one sec07:34
ArrenLexBlongGee: yes. http://www.fu-fme.com/07:34
dfcarneymcquaid: oh, for sure.  acpi problems are much more common07:34
mcquaidok JaytheGreat do this07:35
rbilJaytheGreat, Linux so very rarely has these problems, I'd look at hardware probs before anything else07:35
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mcquaidlaunch a terminal, cd /boot/menu07:35
omacJayTheGreat:  you said the lockups occurred after you started the shutdown....that's not random.07:35
mcquaidsorry cd /boot/grub07:35
JaytheGreatno, they occur randomly and also after i hit shut down07:35
dfcarneymcquaid: i thought that you meant "disable ACPI in the BIOS and run the memtest", as opposed to "try booting after disabling ACPI, if that fails run a memtest".07:35
mcquaidyes and shutdown stuff sounds like acpi07:36
mcquaidok once at /boot/grub make a backup07:36
duckdownHi all.. Is anyone at all familiar with how I can get my sound to work in Opera?07:36
mcquaidsudo cp menu.1st menu.1st.original07:37
JaytheGreatthat command makes a backup?07:37
rbilbad filename07:37
dfcarneymcquaid: sorry to confuse the issue, but can't he just type "noacpi" at the boot prompt?07:37
mcquaidyes he can do it that way as well07:37
mneptonit's "menu.lst"07:37
mneptonlower case L, not the number 107:38
JaytheGreatok checj07:38
mcquaidah doh07:38
mcquaidi always hit tab never noticed that07:38
mnepton"list," not "first" ;)07:38
mcquaidI thought to add it there so he can test it for a few days to ensure it is that07:38
bugmaybe the lockup has something to do with syncing a disk/partition.. i had that problem once with ntfs-3g on a drive that was connected through a promise sata card07:38
mcquaidhow frequent are the lockups?07:38
dfcarneybug: could be that too07:39
JaytheGreatabout half the time i use ubuntu07:39
mcquaidonce a day, few times a day?07:39
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JaytheGreatfew times a day07:39
bugoh man it was ANNOYING.. plus, sometimes i'd lose stuff.. but i've gparted converted since then =-)07:39
mcquaidok, well if you want to try this I'll finish I'll leave it up to you07:39
dfcarneybug: :)07:39
dfcarneymcquaid:  me?  ah, i think that you're doing a fine job.  besides, i gotta go soon07:40
mcquaidsudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.original07:40
mcquaidheh, i always thought that was a 1, but oh well07:40
bugduckdown: is sound working in other progs?07:40
omacJayTheGreat:  have you managed to watch a video completely before your computer hangs.07:41
Troy_McClurebleh... no DRI ati pro's in the building?07:41
duckdownbug yep07:41
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JaytheGreatyeah sometimes I can go for 2 hours or whatever07:41
ArrenLexTony: what problem?07:41
mcquaidnext, gksudo gedit menu.lst07:41
rbilJaytheGreat, if you go for longer than 4 days, do see your doctor.07:41
mcquaidsearch for End Default Options07:41
omacJayTheGreat:  It's not your memory.  definitely something else.  maybe acpi.  give the acpi disable a try and reboot without memtest.07:42
Troy_McClurejust curious if the DRI driver supports an r480, its listed in the wiki under the r300 project... but does that mean it works?07:42
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JaytheGreatok, how do i disable acpi?07:42
mcquaidright below that should be the first default kernel options that you load07:42
bugduckdown: i know that firefox lets you choose the sound daemon.. there may be a file wth a name like .operarc somewhere that has that option07:42
mcquaidwhere you see this line:07:42
mcquaid/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash07:42
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mcquaidchange to07:42
mcquaid/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet acpi=off splash07:42
JaytheGreatmcquaid, me?07:43
mcquaidnoacpi works as well I believe07:43
mcquaiduh who else?07:43
hollaback83does ubuntu have yahoo chat with voice07:43
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ArrenLexTroy: do you mean the radeon driver?07:43
bugthere should be a list somewhere of the paths/filenames of progs that are linked to through the standard gnome start/settings/whatever menus07:43
omacthese switches mean different things.  acpi=off is better.07:43
mcquaidomac, ya I wasn't positive on noacpi, i used acpi=off07:44
dfcarneyJaytheGreat: for reference, what mcquaid is showing you are the "kernel boot options" used to start your system.  the string that he's having you add, "acpi=off", will disable ACPI power management by the operating system.07:44
mcquaidyes thx dfcarney07:44
Troy_McClureArrenLex: believe that is it07:44
mcquaidtoo many of us tell with explaining :)07:44
dfcarneymcquaid: heh07:45
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mcquaidrarely do you have to reboot in linux, but this is a case where you do for it to take effect07:45
hollaback83does ubuntu have yahoo chat with voice07:45
mcquaidanyway you can confirm acpi is off by doing this in a term on reboot07:45
JaytheGreatok, so I start ubuntu again and open the terminal, and I do this: sudo cp menu.lst.lst original, and then gksudo gedit menu.lst and then add in acpi=off   ??07:46
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omachollaback83: I'm not sure they support yahoo chat with voice.  skype works and ekiga works.07:46
mcquaiddmesg | grep ACPI07:46
mcquaidone sec one line looks wrong there07:46
mcquaidsudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.original07:46
mcquaiddo it that way07:46
mcquaidbut yes, back up menu.1st, append acpi=off to the line I pointed out07:47
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Keyseir_How do I add new screen resolutions?07:47
JaytheGreatok I forgot a word07:47
Keyseir_I need a non-default resolution for my widescreen monitor07:47
mcquaidreboot, and optionally confirm acpi is turned off with dmesg | grep ACPI07:47
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mcquaidit'll say something to the effect of acpi disabled