[12:00] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: Try some of these: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22zenity+tutorial%22&btnG=Google+Search
[12:01] <rcarr> Quash: then cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /media/floppy
[12:01] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: Never mind, those aren't very helpful either <sigh>
[12:01] <wweasel> marcrosoft: alright. Well, there seems to be an error with it somehow. Try reinstalling it.
[12:01] <skavenge> is there an avenue to take to speak to canonical about how the ubuntu channels are being run, being that they have the overall say in the matter? apparently ubuntuforums is not the right avenue as they want nothing to do with the irc aspect, but the abuse is obvious as the sky is blue
[12:02] <Quash> rcarr: what are floppies?
[12:02] <Quash> rcarr: just joking.
[12:02] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: yeah i just noticed, i'll look round
[12:02] <crimsun> skavenge: to what are you referring?
[12:02] <marcrosoft> wweasel, the first error message that i posted is that is happening when i try to reinstall lftp
[12:02] <variant> skavenge: what abuse?
[12:02] <fabio_> a question, how can i set permission on shared directory? i view it with network browser of ubuntu...where it mount those directory?
[12:02] <rcarr> Quash: Haha, I was going to say...hmmm
[12:02] <crimsun> skavenge: we do have governance: see the Community Council, for instance.
[12:02] <skavenge> im not going to get into it im just looking for an email address or link
[12:03] <Quash> rcarr: looking back at your messages.  Yes, this is a problem booting off the Live CD 386 and the DVD.
[12:03] <kitche> skavenge: umm maybe canonical website has one
[12:03] <wweasel> marcrosoft: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall lftp" tell me what it does
[12:03] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: It might be helpful to look through these scripts to see if you can find anything about it: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-archiving.php
[12:03] <crimsun> skavenge: if it's a community issue, please add your item(s) to the next Community Council meeting agenda, and show up for the meeting.
[12:03] <ianmacgregor> jojoman02: Those are script dealing with archiving.
[12:03] <rcarr> Quash: Ok, well it sounds like a Xorg problem, so checking the logs and stuff seems best
[12:03] <jojoman02> ianmacgregor: gracias
[12:03] <rcarr> Quash: Also: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:03] <ferrouswheel> Hi all. I've got a an ubuntu server running samba. my ubuntu desktop usually is fine connecting but during intensive access the smbio daemon goes to 100% cpu usage and the samba mount  point can longer be stat'ed
[12:03] <rcarr> Quash: And select the right options for your video card and monitor and stuff
[12:03] <crimsun> skavenge: be sure that all parties involved are aware and will be present at said meeting
[12:04] <rcarr> Quash: then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[12:04] <rcarr> Quash: Then control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM
[12:04] <marcrosoft> wweasel, dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 3232 package `lftp':
[12:04] <marcrosoft>  missing version
[12:04] <marcrosoft> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:04] <rcarr> Quash: Maybe try that before the log stuff, because that could very well fix it
[12:04] <fabio_> anyone can help me?
[12:05] <Noob1> hum i hae a question
[12:05] <junky> if im going to system -> prefs-> sound, any idea why the default card isnt the right one?
[12:05] <Noob1> dose the server vresion have a gui
[12:05] <junky> im i play anything, this is on my other card.
[12:05] <rcarr> Noob1: No, you can install one though
[12:05] <Quash> rcarr: just copying all this down.  Very helpful and appreciated!
[12:05] <rcarr> Quash: No problem, good luck
[12:05] <wweasel> marcrosoft: ok, same thing. I am not an expert in this, so I am trying to look it up
[12:05] <ferrouswheel> Funnily, I can still access the samba share through nautilus/konqueror, just not through the mount point - so the server seems fine. the smbiod process must just have some kind of bug
[12:05] <Quash> rcarr: So, try this before the log stuff??
[12:06] <Quash> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:06] <skavenge> crimsun: my point being i want to speak to someone in charge vs an op thats going to give me lip service on the issue, the ops must have to answer to someone or is it free reign on irc? if so ubuntu's idea of community is quite misguided
[12:06] <Quash> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:06] <Quash> Then control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM
[12:06] <wweasel> marcrosoft, I found this: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/faq.en.html#comp-general.dpkg-parse-error
[12:06] <rcarr> Quash: Yeah
[12:06] <Quash> rcarr: great.  quick question...
[12:06] <Noob1> rcarr: were can i get a gui or is there a way just to put ir on ubuntu
[12:06] <crimsun> skavenge: the "some [people]  in charge" are known as the Community Council.
[12:06] <variant> skavenge: its users helping users, not a corporation (the irc i mean)
[12:07] <Quash> rcarr: I still start the above with alt + ctrl + F6 or F1?
[12:07] <rcarr> Noob1: From the server edition, you could run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to get gnome and a bunch of GUI config programs
[12:07] <snikker> anyones has experience with vmware?
[12:07] <rcarr> Quash: Either one
[12:07] <rcarr> Quash: Or anything inbetween for that matter
[12:07] <fabio_> snikker me
[12:07] <variant> skavenge: so go to ubuntu.com, get the contact email and stop trolling here
[12:07] <Quash> rcarr: :) k.  So, when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the black screen...
[12:08] <rcarr> eQuash: No, after hitting control+alt+FSomething
[12:08] <rcarr> Quash: And at the prompt
[12:08] <skavenge> variant: you and i dont have powers some others in the channel have that may abuse them for their own amusement, im not trolling
[12:08] <Quash> rcarr: will this go stick with the CD or could it reconfigure my installed Breezy?
[12:08] <marcrosoft> wweasel, ok, going to try that
[12:08] <rcarr> Quash: It will stick with the CD
[12:08] <rcarr> Quash: If it still doesn't work, try the Alternate Install CD
[12:08] <variant> skavenge: here you go: http://www.canonical.com/contact
[12:08] <rcarr> Quash: It has an installer like breezys, the console based one
[12:08] <Will> !channels
[12:08] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - UBuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:08] <rcarr> Quash: And pretty much always works
[12:08] <junky> why i cant root@troy:/home/junky# rmmod snd_atiixp
[12:08] <junky> ERROR: Module snd_atiixp is in use
[12:09] <junky> this is not busy, i mean, theres no apps which are requesting sound atm
[12:09] <Erwin> Any magic option to make metacity desktop switching performance better on this nvidia 4200 card? switching to/from evolution, opera etc. seems a bit sluggish as the windows is redrawn.
[12:09] <Quash> rcarr: I tried the Altnerate CD and the text was working, but I didn't want to wipe my HD and then find, at the end, I end up with the same black screen at GDM Login with no Breezy to boot back in to.
[12:09] <marcrosoft> wweasel, that messed it up worse
[12:09] <variant> junky: killall esd/artsd etc
[12:09] <marcrosoft> wweasel, getting Segmentation fault (core dumped) ... now for anything to do with apt
[12:09] <b03nto> how do i get rid off hibernate button in gnome poweroff menu ?
[12:10] <rcarr> Quash: You can partition stuff in the alternate install Cd the same as in the live CD
[12:10] <wweasel> marcrosoft: Crap. I didn't want to suggest that straight off because it was slightly different from your error message. Did you make a backup of your original file before overwriting it?
[12:10] <rcarr> Quash: I think the menu item is "Manually Edit Partition Tables", it's a bit more cumbersome because you have to manually enter sizes and stuff, but not so bad
[12:10] <tempted> woop... i still love dapper :)
[12:11] <Quash> rcarr: yes, I've burned myself with partitioning a couple of times before so am a bit gunshy.
[12:11] <marcrosoft> wweasel, normally i do.. but i didn't think it would mess it up that badly
[12:11] <Quash> rcarr: off to try this at black screen...
[12:11] <Quash> rcarr: alt + ctrl + F6
[12:11] <Quash> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:11] <junky> variant: thx, ive been able to unload my mod, but even if i selected my other snd card in system->prefs->sound, im getting errors
[12:11] <Quash> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:11] <Quash> Then control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM
[12:11] <ianmacgregor> Quash: Yes, that will reconfigure X and restart it
[12:12] <wweasel> marcrosoft: erg..I don't know what to tell you and I wish I could help, but that's uncharted territory for me.
[12:12] <Quash> rcarr: If nothing comes up when I do Ctrl + Alt + F6 at black screen, what should I do?
[12:12] <godmachine81> you having xorg update problems from dapper to edgy
[12:12] <godmachine81> or something?
[12:12] <marcrosoft> wweasel, well thanks anyways..
[12:12] <marcrosoft> brb
[12:12] <rag> how to emulate old games
[12:12] <rcarr> Quash: If nothing comes up when you press ctrl+alt+f6 then it's a pretty serious crash, stick with the alternate CD if that happens
[12:12] <rag> with DOSEMU?
[12:13] <Quash> rcarr: it's reconfiguring X from the CD and re-starting the CD without touching my installed Breezy?  okay.
[12:13] <ianmacgregor> Quash: You can CTRL+ALT+F6 now and see what it looks like and then CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back here. it just takes you to tty6 and back, doesn't hurt anything
[12:13] <rcarr> Quash: Yeah, won't touch breezy
[12:13] <rag> please if somebody know links for games, old games and good games, please say me!!!
[12:13] <rcarr> Quash: It doesn't restart the CD though, it just restarts the GUI
[12:13] <rag> my customer need it a lot,
[12:13] <rcarr> Quash: But, you can upgrade to edgy, from within breezy, with no CD involved
[12:13] <rcarr> Quash: That might be an option for you as well
[12:13] <Quash> rcarr: just tried F6 F7 now.  Thanks.
[12:14] <wweasel> marcrosoft: Hold up a sec, it seems like that shouldn't have changed anything. Fink (the software the link I sent you was about) is for Mac OS X. /sw/var etc. doesn't exist. so if you followed the "solution" it proposed, it shouldn't have changed anything on your computer
[12:14] <Tokenbad> when I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known  :  Can anyone tell me what this means?
[12:14] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[12:14] <ianmacgregor> rag: This should keep you busy for a while: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[12:14] <Quash> rcarr: Yes, that's what I actually want to do.  breezy > dapper > edgy within OS.  But, I wanted to make sure I had a workable CD first, in case something blew up, as I read that it often does. =
[12:15] <rag> ianmacgregor, thanks ian!
[12:15] <ianmacgregor> rag: You're welcome :)
[12:15] <fabio_> a question, how can i set permission on shared directory? i view it with network browser of ubuntu...where it mount those directory?
[12:15] <Quash> rcarr: I always like to be able to start from scratch from CD, if I have to.
[12:15] <Seveas> fabio_, that's not mounted
[12:15] <sipher> Ok, I screwed up bad and need some help. Installed Ubuntu but it created 2 partitions instead of one each sized at 50 gigs.. which I didn't want (I wasn't paying attention).. so like a dumbass I deleted them from win and now Grub wont let me boot. Everyone told me to boot from the XP CD and do fixmbr but it wont let me boot from that one.. I can only boot from Ubuntu's CD. How do I fix it? :S
[12:15] <somewhere> !repositories
[12:15] <Sir_Brizz> is it okay to dist-upgrade from Breezy to Edgy?
[12:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:16] <rcarr> Quash: Ah, ok well good luck
[12:16] <LjL> sipher: boot from the ubuntu CD, do a reinstall (with the proper partition you want to end up with, this time), and you'll have grub again
[12:16] <Quash> ianmacgregor: thanks for letting me know I could F6 F7 now.  Didn't realize it.
[12:16] <fabio_> seveas: and how can change permission? i need to set execution
[12:16] <ianmacgregor> Quash: :)
[12:16] <Seveas> fabio_, you can't
[12:16] <Quash> rcarr: thanks for the helpful advice.  I'll try now.  Your thorough help has been very much appreciated.  :)
[12:16] <Seveas> and you can't execute things from network things you browse that way
[12:17] <sipher> LjL: Ok, I'll try it.. thanks
[12:17] <rag> ianmacgregor, and games packs for ubuntu?
[12:17] <jrib> Sir_Brizz: it is recommended that you do not skip releases.  You should go breezy > dapper > edgy
[12:18] <rag> do you know games packs for ubuntu?
[12:18] <xipietotec> I have a big problem...I'm updating from dapper to edgy....but it just stopped the upgrade due to dependancy errors.
[12:18] <fabio_> they are video...i need to execute it in my ubuntu...i can't every time copy it in this pc and then lunch it
[12:18] <ianmacgregor> rag: I can only recommend going into Synaptic and diong a search for games.. since I don't install anyting that isn't in the repos
[12:18] <Quash> rcarr: thanks, rcarr.  I'm rebooting to try now.
[12:18] <somewhere> My system is totally effed. How can I reinstall the whole thing using Synaptic or apt?
[12:18] <ianmacgregor> rag: Actually, do a search for games in synaptic, there are tons of them there in the repos
[12:19] <Quash> rcarr: thanks very much. l8r.
[12:19] <ianmacgregor> somewhere: Might it be a better idea to see if someone here can help fix the problems you're having rather than re-install the OS?
[12:19] <rag> ok yeah
[12:19] <rag> www.ubuntugames.org! is good
[12:19] <ianmacgregor> rag: Excellent, didn't know that one
[12:19] <xipietotec> seriously, If anyone can help, I'm stuck and cannot upgrade to edgy, as I came up with too many dependancy errors not even half-way through the install.
[12:20] <junky> variant: any idea why i cant root@troy:/home/junky# rmmod snd_ca0106
[12:20] <junky> ERROR: Module snd_ca0106 is in use
[12:20] <xipietotec> help?
[12:20] <jrib> xipietotec: try pastebinning your errors, maybe someone can suggest soemthing
[12:20] <xipietotec> okay, hold on
[12:20] <junky> no art or esd process are currently running
[12:21] <piglit> ik ga slapen
[12:22] <gyoffi> bye
[12:23] <phire> So, When is the final of Edgy going to be released?
[12:24] <variant> phire: 26th
[12:24] <variant> junky: yeah, kill esd or whatever
[12:24] <variant> junky: you can use the fuser command to find whats holding it open.
[12:24] <variant> im off to bed now
[12:24] <variant> night all
[12:24] <junky> variant: night and many thx for today
[12:25] <xipietotec> okay, here's a small chunk of the errors I'm getting from trying to update to edgy: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/216006
[12:25] <snikker> anyones have experience with vmware?
[12:25] <variant> junky: np
[12:25] <phire> varient: damm, same day xtra 'upgrades' ADSL and the internet will crawl to a halt
[12:25] <xipietotec> as far as I can tell it's a repetitive error that's causing it to not install.
[12:25] <Seveas> xipietotec, try this: dpkg --configure -a
[12:26] <Seveas> xipietotec, then apt-get -f install
[12:26] <Seveas> then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:26] <LjL> snikker: i've used the packaged player.
[12:26] <Seveas> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:26] <ianmacgregor> Seveas: What do each of those commands do?
[12:26] <ianmacgregor> I been meaning to ask this
[12:26] <marcrosoft> so every time i try to install something with apt.. I'm getting "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" it looks like I might need to reinstall apt... how can i do this?
[12:26] <Tarkus> would anyone here recommend the x64 version over the x86 version of ubuntu?
[12:27] <snikker> LjL: i've got a troubble with server version...
[12:27] <Seveas> ianmacgregor, try to configure half installd packages, fix dependency errors, install ubuntu0desktop to be sure, do a dist-upgrade
[12:27] <xipietotec> trying now Seveas thankyou =)
[12:27] <LjL> snikker, i haven't used that one.
[12:27] <ianmacgregor> Seveas: Ahh, thank you
[12:27] <vge> is there a way to start xubuntu install without graphic interface?
[12:27] <LjL> vge: use the Alternate CD
[12:27] <mjr> Tarkus, if you don't mind the proprietary software that will be more difficult to run, sure
[12:28] <vge> LjL: so there is no way with the other?
[12:28] <iMax> hi
[12:28] <LjL> vge: no, i don't think so.
[12:28] <Lam_> how does kde handle hidden folders?  gnome does it by a dot prefix
[12:28] <xipietotec> err..... the dpkg --configure -a quit because of dependancy problemw
[12:28] <xipietotec> problems
[12:28] <LjL> Lam_: Linux in general uses the convention of hiding files that being with a dot.
[12:28] <ianmacgregor> Lam_: the "." is a Linux thing, KDE does it too
[12:29] <snikker> LjL: ok
[12:29] <Seveas> xipietotec, then apt-get -f install
[12:29] <Lam_> how come the folders in root are all hidden in kde?
[12:29] <Seveas> xipietotec, and paste the output at paste.ubuntu-nl.org please (pastebin.ca is almost unreadable, stupid black on blue)
[12:29] <tjb891>  is there a way to see the  pictures in peoples profiles in gaim?
[12:29] <rcarr> Lam: They aren't hidden, konqueror isn't showing them because your user account doesn't have write access to them
[12:29] <xipietotec> what's the -f do?
[12:30] <LjL> Lam_: you're using Edgy, correct?
[12:30] <Lam_> yes :)
[12:30] <jrib> tjb891: what protocol?  wfm with aim users
[12:30] <Lam_> is there a way to make konqueror show them then, but keep hidden folders hidden?
[12:30] <tjb891> yeah, the aim proctocol
[12:30] <rcarr> Lam: It's new in edgys version of konqueror, presumambly, I am not sure how to disable it
[12:30] <sipher> Install isn't giving me the option of resizing current partitions and making new ones now.. all it gives me is "Erase entire disk.." :S
[12:30] <Seveas> xipietotec, fix
[12:30] <xipietotec> ah, simple enough
[12:30] <Lam_> rcarr: ok thanks. i'll ask in +1 then
[12:30] <rcarr> Lam: You can still get to them by typing out the path...I don't use konqueror for file browsing though, so no clue
[12:30] <jrib> tjb891: should just work, their buddy icon should show up in the corner of the message window
[12:31] <LjL> Lam_: then join #ubuntu+1. anyway, either Edgy or KDE 3.5.5 (not sure which one is responsible) has made most folders hidden by default in dialogs and file browsers. in dialogs, you can right click and choose to view all files - in konqueror i'm not sure
[12:31] <wobbler> duane, hello
[12:31] <tjb891> jrib:no i mean in there profile it dosen't display the pictures, only text
[12:31] <Senesence> Is there any way to have the same "Background Transparency" effect option in Gedit or Vim like the one in Xterm?
[12:31] <jrib> tjb891: oh, I didn't even know that was possible
[12:31] <tjb891> it is in the AOL version
[12:32] <Seveas> LjL, kde
[12:32] <_ion> When i want to do a server installation with RAID+LVM, should i choose the alternate CD or the server CD? I'm assuming the alternate install CD, but i'd like to make sure.
[12:32] <jrib> tjb891: maybe #gaim can help you out.  Be sure to ask tehre as well
[12:32] <Seveas> LjL, there's a .hidden_files in /
[12:32] <xipietotec> that seems to be working better
[12:33] <maxflax> attention ... support is needed
[12:33] <LjL> Seveas: hold on - you mean that a *KDE specific* feature puts a file in the root folder? (it's ".hidden" by the way, apparently) - if so, that doesn't sound good to me
[12:33] <Seveas> LjL, yes I mean that
[12:33] <LjL> maxflax: we are all ears
[12:33] <Seveas> and like many things in KDE: It sucks
[12:34] <ianmacgregor> I knew there was a reason I didn't use it
[12:34] <maxflax> LjL, it's about sound. Alsa drivers to be exact.
[12:34] <LjL> Seveas: i won't bother disagreeing... but they definitely could put it somewhere in /etc or /usr/share or whatever
[12:34] <Lam_> just a general question.  what's the best way to organize an extremely large music collection?
[12:34] <LjL> (or the user's home, for that matter)
[12:34] <LinuxGuy2006> when I install Sun Java JRE, do I need to install Sun Java JDK for it to work?
[12:34] <Seveas> xipietotec, purge usplash-theme-kubuntu
[12:34] <Seveas> LinuxGuy2006, no
[12:34] <LinuxGuy2006> thanks
[12:35] <Senesence> Is there any way to enable transparency in Gedit or Vim? I want to have the same effect in one of those two apps as the "Transparency" on the terminal window.
[12:35] <xipietotec> Seveas: thankyou! but how would kwin and kdesktop survive?
[12:35] <Seveas> xipietotec, because they don't depend on kdm
[12:35] <BlueN1nja> I believe I've found a bug with F-Spot's 'web gallery' feature...
[12:35] <Seveas> Senesence, with compiz or berylyou can
[12:35] <LjL> xipietotec, kwin and kdesktop in no way depend on KDM... they do depend on the KDE libraries though. you might want to remove kdelibs4, if you want all KDE programs to go away
[12:35] <Senesence> Seveas: No default options for that?
[12:35] <Seveas> Senesence, no
[12:36] <maxflax> LjL, I wonder how one installs the newer version of alsa-base. the one in apt is 1.0.11 and the newest stable is 1.0.13.. and I wonder if I install the newer ones.. are they compatible with ubuntu and how do I do it...
[12:36] <xipietotec> no, not all kde programs, I like quite a few of them, I was just concerned that it was still trying to boot kde every time I loaded up, and would cause ...heh...dependency issues
[12:37] <BlueN1nja> Is there anyone here that's working on F-Spot for Edgy?
[12:37] <ianmacgregor> BlueN1nja: You might also ask in #ubuntu+q
[12:37] <LjL> maxflax, you'd probably need to recompile your kernel and use other black magic to achieve that. if the current drivers work, i'd advice leaving them as they are. if they don't, then there's still not much i'd be able to tell you, except for giving you a couple of pointers about kernel recompiling
[12:37] <ianmacgregor> *+1
[12:37] <BlueN1nja> ianmacgregor: will do. Thanks.
[12:38] <erik__> Hey- Question about flash 9 beta on edgy- I have tried a couple of tutorials, But both crash when I test it with youtube. Firefox just closes... It's a fresh edgy install.. Known issue? (P3 1.2Ghz IBM T23 btw)
[12:38] <LjL> xipietotec, if you choose a Gnome session from your login manager (whether it's KDM or GDM), you'll boot Gnome. that the usplash still says "Kubuntu" doesn't really mean anything -- though you can change that if you want
[12:39] <ianmacgregor> erik__: You might also ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <maxflax> LjL, so I must recompile the linux-kernel.. why is that.. isn't it the alsa-base drivers that need recompilation?
[12:39] <xipietotec> LjL, cool I'll make it go away after I upgrade =) (I wasn't very fond of kde's window management setup...but many of the programs are good)
[12:39] <BlueN1nja> ianmacgregor: #ubuntu+q isn't a channel
[12:40] <BlueN1nja> (sorry if I'm missing something)
[12:40] <ianmacgregor> BlueN1nja: Yeah, typo, sorry, it's #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <LjL> maxflax, the alsa-base package doesn't contain kernel modules as far as i can see, but still i wouldn't upgrade a part of ALSA without upgrading all of it, i think
[12:40] <BlueN1nja> ianmacgregor: thanks
[12:40] <junky> root@troy:/home/junky# play 03.wav
[12:40] <junky> ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[12:40] <LjL> xipietotec: what do you mean by window management setup?
[12:40] <erik__> ianmacgregor: I will. Thanks!
[12:40] <junky> how can i use card 1 instead of card 0 ?
[12:40] <crimsun> maxflax: alsa-base contains only the infrastructure for using alsa-driver.
[12:40] <maxflax> LjL, so a part of the alsa is implented to the linux kernel?
[12:41] <crimsun> junky: asoundconf list
[12:41] <junky> root@troy:/home/junky# asoundconf list
[12:41] <junky> Names of available sound cards:
[12:41] <junky> CA0106
[12:41] <crimsun> maxflax: Linux 2.6 includes ALSA (properly known upstream as alsa-kernel)
[12:41] <crimsun> junky: asoundconf set-default-card CA0106
[12:41] <junky> that the exact card i wanna use.
[12:41] <xipietotec> LjL: KDE looks like windows =P
[12:41] <LjL> maxflax: the low level drivers are
[12:41] <crimsun> maxflax: there's also an external tree known as alsa-driver
[12:41] <maxflax> crimsun, ok! so compiling the 1.0.13 won't help me much then
[12:42] <b03nto> Is there any way to make gnome use suspend2 instead of whatever it uses now (when I select "Hibernate this computer" in the logout menu)?
[12:42] <XVampireX> Hey
[12:42] <xipietotec> and I didn't like the way it sorted through things and such.
[12:42] <crimsun> maxflax: depends what your sound issue(s) is(are)
[12:42] <XVampireX> Anyone using liferea?
[12:42] <ianmacgregor> XVampireX: I am
[12:42] <agent> what is the binary file /pup001? google says its from puppylinux distro, but what is it doing in ubuntu?
[12:42] <crimsun> maxflax: in-Linux ALSA lags external alsa-driver; the latter is synced to the kernel only every so often
[12:42] <XVampireX> iamtheobject, how do I add blogspot feeds to it?
[12:42] <junky> crimsun: thx, thats the exact stuff i was trying to do!!!!
[12:42] <XVampireX> iamtheobject, for example this one: http://freegamer.blogspot.com/
[12:43] <iamtheobject> why me
[12:43] <maxflax> crimsun, well.. my problem are that alsa don't detect my digital soundcard.. only the analog part.. and I want to be able to use the spdif
[12:43] <XVampireX> iamtheobject, nevermind :P
[12:43] <XVampireX> iamtheobject, thanks anyways :P
[12:43] <iamtheobject> :-)
[12:43] <ianmacgregor> XVampireX: Feeds -> New Subscription ?
[12:43] <XVampireX> lol
[12:43] <XVampireX> sorry
[12:43] <crimsun> maxflax: cat /proc/asound/devices
[12:43] <iamtheobject> I don't even know whats goin on man
[12:43] <ianmacgregor> iamtheobject: tab completion bit him, lol
[12:43] <XVampireX> sorry
[12:43] <iamtheobject> ah ahahaha
[12:43] <iamtheobject> its okay dude
[12:43] <iamtheobject> :-)
[12:44] <iamtheobject> I do it too sometimes
[12:44] <XVampireX> Yeah, xchat is not particularly cool about tab completion I see
[12:44] <LinuxGuy2006> what is the Java JDK for?
[12:44] <jrib> LinuxGuy2006: developing java apps
[12:44] <LinuxGuy2006> oh, ewww
[12:44] <maxflax> crimsun, that only shows 1 playback device..   4: [ 0- 0] : digital audio playback
[12:44] <ianmacgregor> LinuxGuy2006: lol
[12:45] <LinuxGuy2006> java sucks
[12:45] <crimsun> maxflax: which driver are you using?
[12:45] <maxflax> crimsun, alsa-base 1.0.11
[12:45] <plmoki> uhh who said java sucks?
[12:45] <crimsun> maxflax: no, which sound driver?
[12:45] <maxflax> crimsun, the one in edgy
[12:45] <crimsun> maxflax: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:45] <LinuxGuy2006> I will use as little JRE as nessicary to run FrostWire
[12:45] <LinuxGuy2006> no JDK or Source
[12:46] <maxflax> crimsun,  0 snd_hda_intel
[12:46] <junky> ive to go, problems solved, many thanks again crimsun, ya solved something i was working for like 6 hours!
[12:46] <LinuxGuy2006> I like the java-free design of GTK-Gnutella, but its not intuitive
[12:46] <crimsun> maxflax: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[12:46] <xipietotec> I know you can retheme kde LjL but the default looks like windows...and I didn't see it do anything particularly better than gnome
[12:46] <xipietotec> =P
[12:47] <plmoki> i dono man, i really like java
[12:47] <maxflax> crimsun, 0: Realtek ALC880
[12:47] <crimsun> maxflax: then yes, you need to compile alsa-driver-1.0.13. I've already fixed the spdif issue upstream. A newer post-release Edgy kernel will have them.
[12:47] <LjL> xipietotec: maybe, and since i'm a kde user i'm probably biased - but i just don't understand it when people people run Gnome and then mainly use KDE programs, or vice versa for that matter.  if it's just a matter of looks, you can (easily) change the looks.
[12:48] <LjL> xipietotec: if you'd replied "because KDE misses such and such features", i'd have kept quiet, but if it's just "because KDE looks like windows", come on, that's quite a weak justification =)
[12:48] <Lam_> does linux have a means to detect an imminent hard drive failure before it fails?
[12:48] <LinuxGuy2006> and does anyone else get errors when installing totem-gstreamer-firefox plugin
[12:48] <maxflax> crimsun, Im new to linux.. so what u are saying is.. there is already a kernel compiled for the issue. and 1.0.13 is compatible with it?
[12:48] <LjL> Lam_: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[12:48] <Lam_> LjL: thanks
[12:49] <curt_> evening folks
[12:49] <LinuxGuy2006> LjL: I use GNOME so :-P
[12:49] <curt_> anyone here familiar with xgl?
[12:49] <LjL> !xgl > curt_
[12:49] <iamtheric> enlightenment is a great wm
[12:49] <curt_> har har
[12:50] <jbmigel> emacs does window manager kinda
[12:50] <maxflax> crimsun, and that I have to compile the 1.0.13 from source and do a make install?
[12:50] <xipietotec> LjL: actually I mainly use common applications, but I didn't like the way kde navigates through folders and such, plus it seemed to run slower, but I do use some of the programs. =)
[12:50] <LinuxGuy2006> and does anyone else get errors when installing totem-gstreamer-firefox plugin
[12:50] <ianmacgregor> emacs is a nice OS, hopefully someone will write a decent editor for it o.O
[12:50] <RogerBacon> try easyubuntu
[12:50] <crimsun> maxflax: alsa-driver-1.0.13 only, yes.
[12:50] <LinuxGuy2006> ewwww
[12:51] <jbmigel> LinuxGuy2006 i think everyone uses the mplayer plugin. why dont you?
[12:51] <jbmigel> heh ianmacgregor
[12:51] <LinuxGuy2006> mplayer, isnt that the one that runs in text-mode
[12:51] <eck0> hey i got everything working finally, but now i cant use my mic
[12:52] <plmoki> it can
[12:52] <marcrosoft> can you change where ubuntu gets its files... apt is downloading very slow
[12:52] <spdf> marcrosoft, Yep
[12:52] <eck0> ghow do i fix that?
[12:52] <jbmigel> LinuxGuy2006 er you can control it from command line if you need, but it's firefox plugin workws fine for me
[12:53] <maxflax> crimsun, ok.. that is fairly easy. do I compile all the other packages too.. like alsa-utils and such? And do I leave the old alsa-base or do I uninstall those first before make install the 1.0.13?
[12:53] <marcrosoft> spdf, do you have to change each one in the source file... ?? and is there a list of fast ones?
[12:53] <LjL> ianmacgregor: http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/RZ/software/emacs/evi/evi_1.html
[12:53] <spdf> marcrosoft, I haven't found a list online. The one I'm using is in the 400-500kb/s range.. I'll pastebin it for you
[12:53] <marcrosoft> spdf, cool thanks
[12:54] <javierss> hi
[12:54] <eck0> anyone know how come my mic wont work on linux but fine on windoze
[12:54] <javierss> i need mount my partition of windows but i see this message
[12:54] <spdf> marcrosoft, http://pastebin.ca/216057
[12:54] <jbmigel> haha LjL that link looks like a howto install trojan horse
[12:54] <DarthVineman> Can anyone help me with gstreamer?
[12:55] <DarthVineman> Im having problems updating it
[12:55] <crimsun> maxflax: leave it. Only compile alsa-driver.
[12:55] <ubuntu> how can i do a ftp server between a ubuntu and a xp windows system
[12:55] <marcrosoft> spdf, cool thank you
[12:55] <eck0> so no1 knows why my mic wont work on linux but its fine on windows
[12:55] <javierss> i have problems whit my partition of windoze ,
[12:55] <DarthVineman> root@HAL:~# sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[12:55] <DarthVineman> Reading package lists... Done
[12:55] <DarthVineman> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:55] <DarthVineman> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[12:55] <eck0> hey thats my word lol
[12:55] <DarthVineman> Anyone know what I should do?
[12:56] <DarthVineman> Whats the correct thing so it will find the package?
[12:56] <LjL> !info gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[12:56] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3: Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2.debian-1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 196 kB
[12:56] <iamtheric> DarthVineman, apt-get unstall gstreamer
[12:56] <LjL> DarthVineman: you probably need to enable Universe.
[12:56] <iamtheric> DarthVineman, apt-get install gstreamer
[12:56] <ink251> ubuntu: apt-get install vsftpd
[12:57] <DarthVineman> Universe is enabled
[12:57] <ink251> ubuntu: then use internet explorer as your windows ftp client
[12:57] <LjL> DarthVineman: then run "sudo apt-get update" and try again.
[12:57] <ink251> ftp://xx.xx.xx.xx/
[12:57] <maxflax> crimsun, ok! alsa driver is the same as the alsa-base right? ..  I think there is a guide for compiling and installing alsa on their wiki.. is that a good one to follow?
[12:58] <maxflax> crimsun, http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick+Install
[12:58] <crimsun> maxflax: alsa-driver is the name of the source package. alsa-base is one of several binary packages generated from the alsa-driver source package.
[12:58] <junky> crimsun: if my mute (vol+/-) on my keyboard doesnt work, any idea, what could be the problem?
[12:58] <plamoni> I am having an issue with gnome... I just did a fresh install of the Edgy beta (not the RC), I did an apt-get upgrade and now gnome seems to be broken... it takes forever to start up gnome, then when it finally starts, I get a message about the gnome-settings-daemon not responding
[12:58] <iamtheric> sorry
[12:58] <crimsun> junky: with your CA0106?
[12:58] <crimsun> junky: hotkey-setup issue. It only works by default for certain sound chipsets. The ca0106 driver doesn't support it by default.
[12:59] <Quash> rcarr: still there?  Just tried it and I'm back.
[12:59] <maxflax> crimsun, now I got confused! So how do I compile the alsa-driver.. is that the same as alsa-base?
[12:59] <randomguy> how can I burn an iso image?
[01:00] <LjL> !burn > randomguy
[01:00] <spdf> randomguy, gnomebaker or k3b will work
[01:00] <Caedmon> Any clue where I can download the linux-headers and build-essential packages for kubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[01:00] <randomguy> I want to mount an iso, sorry
[01:00] <LjL> Caedmon: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[01:00] <LjL> !mountiso > randomguy
[01:00] <junky> so i should recompile it, with that option enabled, right?
[01:00] <randomguy> (cdrecord fails to burn in sao mode)
[01:00] <Caedmon> My bad
[01:00] <Caedmon> Without using Apt.
[01:00] <crimsun> maxflax: no, you grab alsa-driver from ftp.alsa-project.org and compile it.
[01:01] <jrib> Caedmon: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <Caedmon> Because I have no net connection on my linux install
[01:01] <spdf> randomguy, mount /path/to/iso /path/to/empty/folder -o loop
[01:01] <eltech> is ther an easy way to create a *.rar archive in gui?
[01:01] <randomguy> spdf, I have to modprobe loop right?
[01:01] <jrib> Caedmon: I know build-essential should be on the cd though
[01:01] <LjL> !rar > eltech
[01:01] <Quash> anyone, I can't get in to the desktop when I boot the 6.10 RC CD/DVD?  can anyone help?
[01:01] <spdf> randomguy, atleast I think its that
[01:01] <jrib> Caedmon: the headers might be too
[01:01] <maxflax> crimsun, ok.. and follow the instructions in the INSTALL should be enough right?
[01:01] <capt-rogers> when your watching TV, and it is recording..it says it only records for 30 minutes...is that true, and why does mythtv do that?
[01:02] <Quash> I get an black screen after the boot splash, in the final moment when it goes in to the desktop.
[01:02] <lonran> hi
[01:02] <phire> hello
[01:02] <LjL> Caedmon: if they're not on the CD and you've got no network, then you'll need to go to packages.ubuntu.com and download from there. however, you need to take care of the dependencies manually (i.e. for every dependency listed, download it, and do the same for every dependency's dependencies, etc)
[01:02] <spdf> capt-rogers, Ask in #mythtv-users
[01:02] <xipietotec> heh....I wish the upgrade command had an indicator of just how many more programs were left to upgrade
[01:03] <lonran> where are the downloaded packets with apt-get stored?
[01:03] <crimsun> maxflax: essentially.
[01:03] <spdf> lonran, /var/cache/apt
[01:03] <LjL> lonran: /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:03] <randomguy> how can I apt-cdrom from a mounted iso?
[01:03] <lonran> thnks
[01:03] <iamtheric> DarthVineman, no need for version
[01:03] <Quash> can anyone help me with a install/boot graphics issue on the 6.10 RC cd?
[01:04] <iamtheric> lonran, hey
[01:04] <LjL> randomguy: "apt-cdrom -d=/mount/point/for/the/iso add" i would think
[01:04] <iamtheric> Quash, what display manager?
[01:04] <maxflax> crimsun, ok.. will try this.. and Im hoping for the best... btw.. what caused the error of the spdif?
[01:04] <LjL> randomguy: "apt-cdrom -m -d=/mount/point/for/the/iso add" possibly, to avoid having it try to mount it by itself
[01:05] <randomguy> thanks
[01:05] <Quash> iamtheric: I'm booting from the install CD.  default option, safe graphics option and using variou F4 VGA options.  The Ubuntu CD and DVD.
[01:05] <iamtheric> Quash, oh do you need a framebuffer?
[01:05] <Websterium> I'm having some difficulty getting machines using DHCP to accept the default domain I've set up in my dhcp3 server
[01:05] <eltech> actually .. that doesnt explain creating a .rar file
[01:05] <iamtheric> !rar
[01:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:05] <Websterium> Is it possible to send a default domain to search as part of a DHCP response? Or is this something that needs to be set up on each client
[01:06] <lonran> i have installed automatix for dapper and i have now edgy, how can i remove it using apt?
[01:06] <LjL> !automatix
[01:06] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[01:06] <iamtheric> lonran, apt-get remove automatix
[01:06] <Quash> iamtheric: not even sure what I framebuffer is or how to use it.  Basically, the boot splash seems to chug along nicely, the the screen goes to its normal momentary black with blinking cursor before going in to the desktop.  Instead, my screen just goes black.
[01:06] <peeps> anyone here use skype?
[01:07] <Will> how do i get to SWAT?
[01:09] <iamtheric> Quash, maybe your monitor isnt supported by x
[01:09] <JonBoon> hmm, is there a special package i should install for audio on sites like youtube?
[01:10] <jbmigel> iamtheric do you know of nice howto for framebuffer/
[01:10] <tsoler> hi to all
[01:10] <Quash> iamtheric: First time in years I've ever had an issue with getting in to a LiveCD.  Anything I could do to get in through a different boot parameter to a standard monitor and then reconfigure, once in?  Would that be a solution?
[01:10] <iamtheric> jbmigel, no
[01:10] <tsoler> jbmigel
[01:10] <jbmigel> tsoler
[01:10] <tsoler> hi
[01:10] <jbmigel> hows it going d00d?
[01:10] <tsoler> good
[01:11] <tsoler> just a very essential question
[01:11] <tsoler> how can i reduce the clicks??
[01:11] <iamtheric> Quash, no idea
[01:11] <Will> how can i install the windows driver into samba so that when i want to connect it on a windows host it doesnt require a driver?
[01:11] <Quash> iamtheric: fair enough.
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> Whenever I use Azureus, it dosen't show up in the system tray like it used to do in previous releases. Anyone know why?
[01:12] <Will> (this is for a printer)
[01:12] <jbmigel> tsoler maybe you could only type with your left hand?
[01:12] <iamtheric> GhostFreeman, check azureus setting
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> which one?
[01:12] <spdf> GhostFreeman, It shows up in mine. Likely a config thing..
[01:12] <tsoler> is there a way to make lesser clicks?
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> your version 2.4.0.2?
[01:12] <spdf> GhostFreeman, 2.5.0.0
[01:13] <tsoler> in onether terms how can i have automatic rollover menus?
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> oh
[01:13] <jbmigel> tsoler i dont understand. less clicks... do you mean your speakers are clicking all the time?
[01:13] <spdf> GhostFreeman, There is a config setting in Azurues to enable/disable the tray icon
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> and I have the system tray icon on, but its not there
[01:13] <spdf> GhostFreeman, Its enabled in Azurues's config?
[01:13] <tsoler> no i mean that it would be nicer for menus to rollover after i pass over
[01:14] <Spaceraverlinux> !pastebin
[01:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:14] <lucaferr> How do I get auto mount support for NIS based auto.master and auto.home?
[01:14] <tsoler> after two days of continusly working on ubuntu ive noticed : toooo many clicks
[01:15] <GhostFreeman> spdf: yes
[01:15] <Flannel> tsoler: that's why command lines are still popular
[01:15] <tsoler> doesnt anyone else have noticed?
[01:15] <Spaceraverlinux> can someone point me to the install log of dpkg and apt?? i need to pastebin those in order to solve a problem
[01:15] <tsoler> command lines are a fast otion
[01:15] <iamtheric> GhostFreeman, what window manager?
[01:15] <jbmigel> tsoler im still not sure... like you have to click your mouse... and your sad?
[01:15] <iamtheric> tsoler, use a different wm
[01:15] <tsoler> option
[01:15] <Flannel> Spaceraverlinux: /var/log/ then theres dpkg ones in there
[01:16] <iamtheric> tsoler, make your own menus
[01:16] <GhostFreeman> Metacity
[01:16] <tsoler> ???
[01:16] <tsoler> wm?
[01:16] <bimberi> Spaceraverlinux: /var/log/dpkg.log (apt doesn't log)
[01:16] <Spaceraverlinux> thx... brb Flannel
[01:16] <bruenig> wm = window manager
[01:16] <spdf> GhostFreeman, Which java runtime?
[01:16] <tsoler> two days spenting on ubuntu : all good one thin g to say :too many clicks
[01:17] <vryo> has anyone tried running Company of Heroes on Wine?
[01:17] <bruenig> I want to use thunar but I can't figure out how to integrate it in the system well enough so that things will open with it instead of nautilus
[01:17] <Tarkus> hey
[01:17] <GhostFreeman> V 1.5.0_06-b05
[01:17] <b03nto> Is there any way to make gnome use suspend2 instead of whatever it uses now (when I select "Hibernate this computer" in the logout menu)?
[01:17] <Tarkus> is it possible to install ubuntu using a usb drive? instad of booting from a cd?
[01:17] <tsoler> where is wm bruenig?
[01:17] <Flannel> !tell Tarkus about install
[01:17] <racter> so is there a difference between the server install on the xubuntu disc vs. the ubuntu disc?
[01:18] <Flannel> Tarkus: believe there's instructions on how to do that there
[01:18] <Flannel> racter: absolutely nothing
[01:18] <racter> flannel: thx
[01:18] <iamtheric> tsoler, enlightenment fluxbox blackbox xfce are all good wms
[01:18] <bruenig> tsoler, I don't understand iamtheric's point, I was just defining wm, you will have to ask him what he was getting at
[01:18] <bruenig> those won't reduce clicks though
[01:18] <GhostFreeman> spdf: did you get my  Java version
[01:18] <iamtheric> bruenig, menus are setup different
[01:19] <Spaceraverlinux> hm... the dpkg log does not state the problem i have... it's apt-get... :/
[01:19] <bruenig> iametheric, maybe. I only have used xfce out of that list and it wasn't too much better for amount of clicks.
[01:19] <spdf> GhostFreeman, Sun right?
[01:19] <GhostFreeman> yes
[01:20] <b03nto> anybody using suspend2 ?
[01:20] <Subhuman> !schedule
[01:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:20] <Ruffles> hello there!
[01:21] <Ruffles> is it ok to remove the contents in /tmp/ ?
[01:21] <Spaceraverlinux> should i just paste the command window??
[01:21] <agent> Spaceraverlinux: if it's one line, paste in here... if its multiple lines in pastebin
[01:22] <agent> does anyone know what exact command finds out when is the appropriate time to do a fsck on boot?
[01:22] <spdf> GhostFreeman, Looks like its a known bug
[01:22] <Spaceraverlinux> ill put it in the pastebin anyhow
[01:22] <tsoler> iamtheric, do u know a wms with this function??
[01:22] <b03nto> !suspend2
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <Ruffles> is it ok to remove the contents in /tmp/ ? does anyone know?
[01:23] <GhostFreeman> it is?
[01:23] <GhostFreeman> You have a link to the entry?
[01:23] <spdf> GhostFreeman, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/42269
[01:23] <spdf> GhostFreeman, There's a workaround on there..
[01:23] <gnuyen> Hi guys
[01:23] <GhostFreeman> I'll give it a shot
[01:23] <GhostFreeman> Thanks again!
[01:23] <bruenig> !hi
[01:23] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:23] <cafuego> Ruffles: Not generally, no.
[01:23] <gnuyen> i'm reading the help.ubuntu.com information on installing a amd64 java plugin
[01:23] <gnuyen> and i'm not quite sure what it's saying
[01:23] <eltech> so there isnt a way to create a tar file
[01:24] <gnuyen> do i have to run a 32bit browser or not?
[01:24] <eltech> hmm
[01:24] <bruenig> gnuyen, yes
[01:24] <LjL> eltech: uh?
[01:24] <irc1> how do i get my mic to work?
[01:24] <LjL> eltech: tar --help | grep cf
[01:24] <riddlebox> is there any reason that dapper would be locking up on my system after about 10 minutes?
[01:25] <eck0> is it possible to accesss my windows drive thru linux
[01:25] <gnuyen> because it says "I installed j2re-1.4.2 today with the firefox plugin from multiverse and Java worked in Firefox 1.5.0.5 immediately without having to create manual links."
[01:25] <agent> !upstart
[01:25] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[01:25] <roblocop> exit
[01:25] <eltech> errm sorry i meant a rar file
[01:25] <Spaceraverlinux> here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/ someone kick me in the right direction
[01:25] <eltech> creating a rar file
[01:25] <iamtheric> tsoler, what?
[01:26] <eck0> does anyone know how to access my windows stuff on my other HDD
[01:26] <iamtheric> tsoler, if you use kde set it so that you can mouse over windows to raise them
[01:26] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, is it fat32??
[01:26] <eck0> nfts
[01:26] <eck0> or ntfs watever
[01:26] <gnuyen> is there anyway to install 32bit firefox
[01:26] <tsoler> i thin iam using gnome
[01:26] <Spaceraverlinux> that would be a big no no anyhow
[01:26] <LjL> eltech, you need to install the "rar" package rather than the "unrar" package
[01:26] <gnuyen> with apt?
[01:26] <eck0> you sure
[01:27] <tsoler> is it easy to make a transitition?
[01:27] <eck0> well can i burn my mp3's off windows, and put it on linux
[01:27] <Dr_willis> eck0,  you can mount the ntfs drives and access them .
[01:27] <arnieboy> Hi where can I get a comprehensive list of country based ubuntu repository mirrors ?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> eck0,  the default fstab entrys restrict the access to just the root user.. a edit of the fstab file changes that.
[01:28] <tsoler> gnome to kde??
[01:28] <eck0> how do i logon as root?
[01:28] <Spaceraverlinux> yes... ntfs is a very closed file system, accessing them is possible, but write support is not good or lacking
[01:28] <eck0> just use su?
[01:28] <LjL> !root > eck0
[01:28] <Dr_willis> eck0,  example fstab line -------->   /dev/hda5 /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:28] <Spaceraverlinux> yes
[01:28] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[01:28] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:29] <eck0> so to open my windows drive is kinda a bad thing cuz then if people hack in they can move rite to my other drive?
[01:30] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, use "sudo gedit etc/fstab
[01:30] <eck0> which does?
[01:30] <Spaceraverlinux> gedit is like notepad
[01:30] <spdf> eck0, If they wanted to. But, even without you mounting it they could find it easy enough
[01:30] <Juhaz> if people hack in, your windows drive being mounted is the least of your worries
[01:31] <eck0> well unix is already a bitch to hack in
[01:31] <eck0> were windows its simpler
[01:31] <eck0> brb
[01:31] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0,  ever edited *.bat or *.con files??
[01:32] <Spaceraverlinux> does anyone have a clue why apt get dies with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27900/
[01:32] <Spaceraverlinux> cant get my head around it
[01:32] <turano_ubu> hey guys, my alacarte don't work (in Edgy Elft). it doesn't check/uncheck the menu entries.
[01:33] <spdf> Hmm.. I can't read german or whatever that is..
[01:33] <bruenig> Spaceraverlinux, translate?
[01:33] <LjL> danish
[01:33] <Spaceraverlinux> yes
[01:34] <Spaceraverlinux> line 17 says critical error file list for python glade2 is missing
[01:34] <eck0> nope im a noob to linux
[01:34] <YBH_1> turano_ubu, are you running it as root mode? it should pronpt you for a password.
[01:35] <Spaceraverlinux> some of is in english.. some danish... i wish they would have kept the command lines to english
[01:35] <eck0> does anyone know why my mic works in wondows but not linux?
[01:35] <spdf> Spaceraverlinux, Using Dapper?
[01:35] <Spaceraverlinux> yes
[01:35] <turano_ubu> YBH_1, I already do it
[01:36] <eltech> ljl thanks.. that was it
[01:36] <iamtheric> eck0, go figure
[01:36] <YBH_1> have you tried alsamiser use the arrow keys to find the mic and press m key to mute and unmute the mic then use sudo alstctl store
[01:36] <vryo> does anyone have experience setting up a server?
[01:36] <YBH_1> alsamiser =alsamiser
[01:36] <YBH_1> alsamiser =alsamixer
[01:36] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, lol
[01:36] <YBH_1> it's 1 of those days
[01:37] <Spaceraverlinux> oops
[01:37] <eck0> is it sumtin i did?
[01:37] <Spaceraverlinux> yes... it's monday...
[01:37] <XVampireX> or just double click the icon in the panel
[01:37] <eck0> like being stupid on sumtin
[01:37] <vryo> im having truble connecting to it
[01:37] <Spaceraverlinux> no sorry eck0... i was gonna say we are all noobs at linux... i am one too
[01:37] <Roger_The_Bum> will the edgy final release include firefox 2.0?
[01:38] <bododo> hi folks :)
[01:38] <eck0> o
[01:38] <spdf> Spaceraverlinux, Hmm, try apt-get update. and then try again
[01:38] <Flannel> Roger_The_Bum: the current edgy does, so yes
[01:38] <Spaceraverlinux> Roger_The_Bum, have you traversed the forums??
[01:38] <Roger_The_Bum> no
[01:38] <eck0> so no1 knows why my mic wont work
[01:38] <bododo> please give another reason to switch to ubuntu, the first being thier community :(
[01:38] <Roger_The_Bum> bododo: its ease of use
[01:38] <eck0> i like it
[01:38] <Spaceraverlinux> spdf, i tried that... just gives allmost the same error
[01:38] <eck0> can i not use rpm files?
[01:39] <melvin> i want to use xgl on my laptop is it easy to install????
[01:39] <bododo> Roger, I already use FC5
[01:39] <Flannel> melvin: #ubuntu-xgl
[01:39] <Flannel> eck0: you can, but using debs is better (because no conversion issues and the dependencies that come with that)
[01:39] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, you can... afaik you need alien to import them into ubuntu...
[01:39] <bododo> and i'm deeplu decieved by thier cmmunity
[01:39] <Roger_The_Bum> bododo: large packet repository///?
[01:39] <Roger_The_Bum> s/////.../
[01:39] <bododo> well my internet connexion is very slow
[01:40] <bododo> and ubuntu ships with the bare minimum
[01:40] <eck0> well the only downloads for most files are in .rpm
[01:40] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah
[01:40] <Roger_The_Bum> alien might be it
[01:40] <Spaceraverlinux> hmm... is there a way to force the samba version to install??
[01:40] <bododo> that's actually what keeps me from switching to ubuntu
[01:40] <eck0> is the porting?
[01:41] <Spaceraverlinux> bododo, what connection do you have??
[01:41] <bododo> 128kb/s
[01:41] <bododo> not even able to download stuff
[01:41] <bododo> i'm african by the way ;-)
[01:41] <Roger_The_Bum> ahh
[01:41] <Flannel> bododo: The DVDs have more packages, you might look into debian, they have all their packages available on CDs, ubuntu plans to, but it hasn't happened yet
[01:42] <bododo> and by the way sorry for my poor english, it's my 4th language
[01:42] <Peggerrr> I cant figure out why saslauthd will not start up   http://pastebin.ca/216120
[01:42] <Spaceraverlinux> bododo,  that aint much, but if you dont need much to download... just leave the system on over night
[01:42] <iamtheric> bododo, thats about it
[01:42] <iamtheric> eck0, you can with alien
[01:42] <concept10> anyone using beryl
[01:42] <Roger_The_Bum> ubuntu hasn't been around for longer than 2 years
[01:42] <Flannel> concept10: #ubuntu+1 or #beryl
[01:42] <Seveas> Roger_The_Bum, 2.5 years actually
[01:42] <Spaceraverlinux> hello Seveas
[01:42] <Roger_The_Bum> beryl?
[01:42] <bododo> thanks folks, but i'm really scared of time it needs to complete
[01:42] <concept10> Flannel, just asked if anyone was using it
[01:42] <eck0> were do i get it? got a link?
[01:43] <Flannel> concept10: right, people there have a better chance of using it ;)
[01:43] <eck0> im gonna go nuts without my mic lol
[01:43] <iamtheric> rpm is pretty convienient
[01:43] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, use the command line
[01:43] <eck0>  ./program.rpm you mean?
[01:43] <Roger_The_Bum> Spaceraverlinux: can't synaptic do the trick too?
[01:43] <Spaceraverlinux> type "sudo apt-get install alien"
[01:43] <spdf> Spaceraverlinux, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240699
[01:43] <bododo> your community is warm, that's what i firstly love above all
[01:44] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah
[01:44] <Roger_The_Bum> I use it as a heat source
[01:44] <eck0> what is apt-get?
[01:44] <Spaceraverlinux> i can... i just prefer apt-get
[01:44] <Roger_The_Bum> eck0: it's a package manager
[01:44] <eck0> ok says its all good
[01:44] <eck0> and if ineed gcc its sudo apt-get install gcc
[01:44] <Spaceraverlinux> the command line version of synaptic... more powerful...
[01:44] <Flannel> !tell eck0 about alien
[01:44] <iamtheric> !alien
[01:44] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[01:44] <bododo> Roger, well i'm a webdevelopper, the problem is that ubuntu shiped cd is ... say aimed for users desktop
[01:45] <bododo> without the servers...
[01:45] <Flannel> bododo: grab the server CD
[01:45] <Roger_The_Bum> bododo: isn't there a server install on there?
[01:45] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, exactly
[01:45] <bododo> Flannel, so, when I grab the server one can I install both?
[01:45] <eck0> ok ty
[01:45] <Flannel> eck0: build-essential is more complete, but gcc will get you gcc
[01:45] <tsoler> hey guys what is the differences between kde and gnome?
[01:45] <eck0> ill get the build stuff
[01:46] <Will> does anyone know of any sound drivers that will work with the CS4236 ?
[01:46] <Kyral> You'll need it
[01:46] <maxflax> crimsun, are u there?
[01:46] <Spaceraverlinux> spdf.. thanks
[01:46] <Peggerrr> ook I figured out why it was not starting but I am still getting this error when I try to do tls with postfix      cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory
[01:46] <Roger_The_Bum> tsoler: diffefent window managers
[01:46] <eck0> damn you guys are good
[01:46] <Peggerrr> what file is it looking for ?//
[01:46] <bododo> so, can i install both versions on the same OS?
[01:46] <Roger_The_Bum> tsoler: gnome comes with ubuntu
[01:46] <molinero> Hi bododo
[01:46] <Will> im not sure
[01:46] <spdf> Spaceraverlinux, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/samba/+bug/48082
[01:46] <Flannel> bododo: grab the alternate ISO, it comes with apache
[01:46] <bododo> Hi molinero :)
[01:47] <Spaceraverlinux> it's a common bug then
[01:47] <tsoler> so im using gnome
[01:47] <Roger_The_Bum> tsoler: yeah
[01:47] <bododo> Flannel, but then how 'bout the desktop side? i also need it
[01:47] <spdf> Spaceraverlinux, Yeh, looks like its been there for awhile
[01:47] <Flannel> bododo: alternate ISOs are the dekstops, with some additional packages (like apache, for instance)
[01:47] <tsoler> but what is the differences?
[01:47] <Kyral> tsoler: look and feel, GTK vs. Qt, personal opinions
[01:47] <Kyral> Also one of the Big Linux Holy Wars
[01:47] <bimberi> bododo: yes, you can run server and desktop packages on the same install
[01:47] <Roger_The_Bum> tsoler: I think gnome uses c while kde uses c++
[01:47] <eck0> im just ognna use wine lol
[01:47] <Kyral> Roger_The_Bum: WRONG :P
[01:47] <tsoler> i ask your personal opinion
[01:47] <bododo> Flannel, you suggest me to install the desktop version and then individually install the servers packages?
[01:48] <xipietotec> okay....upgrade to dapper went through except for 3 programs
[01:48] <eck0> emu some windows stuff like ventrilo etc
[01:48] <Roger_The_Bum> tsoler: quite honestly, I prefer gnome
[01:48] <Kyral> Roger_The_Bum: its more that GNOME uses the GTK widget kit and KDE uses Qt. Both GTK and Qt have bindings to many languages
[01:48] <tsoler> for me that i dont know much is a basic
[01:48] <Flannel> bododo: no.  download the 'alternate' iso, it has the desktop stuff, and apache etc on it.  then you install apache from the CD
[01:48] <ianmacgregor> !lamp > bododo
[01:48] <xipietotec>  mzscheme gtk-engines-eazel drscheme all returned errors
[01:48] <Kyral> tsoler: Just try both
[01:48] <bododo> alternate?
[01:49] <Kyral> tsoler: You can have both installed at once (Hell I have before)
[01:49] <bododo> it's not shiped?
[01:49] <Flannel> bododo: yes.  right.
[01:49] <Kyral> (Hell I have had all the WMs at once installed)
[01:49] <xipietotec> okay....reload.
[01:49] <tsoler> ive noticed that gnome takes me too many clicks
[01:49] <Roger_The_Bum> Kyral: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-] >.<++++[>+++++++<-] >+.<++[>+++<-] >+..+++.++++[>++++++++<-] >.<+++++[>++++++++++<-] >+++++.<<.+++.------.<+++[>---<-] >+ is this supported by gtk?
[01:49] <bododo> Flannel, but... my Internet speed :( poor me, it's but 128kb/s
[01:49] <Kyral> Roger_The_Bum: WTF?
[01:49] <spdf> tsoler, so you said...
[01:49] <Roger_The_Bum> Kyral: brainf*ck
[01:49] <iamtheric> Roger_The_Bum, debian has over 20000 packagees in its repo's by default
[01:49] <iamtheric> bododo, my connect is under 4kbps
[01:50] <Will> how do i install the ALSA drivers?
[01:50] <Kyral> Roger_The_Bum: Write bindings :P
[01:50] <Will> !ALSA
[01:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:50] <eck0> anyone know how to install wine? so i can use various windows stuff
[01:50] <Flannel> Roger_The_Bum: that'd be a BF interpreter, not in GTK nor QT, unless someone wrote a BF interface to QT
[01:50] <Juhaz> tsoler, largest difference is in philosophy. gnome tries to be simple with sane defaults, even if that sometimes limits choices, whereas kde has settings for everything, and then some
[01:50] <bododo> iamtheric!
[01:50] <tsoler> how can i test the kde environemnt?
[01:50] <maxflax> Im reading the INSTALL file for the alsa-drivers 1.0.13.. and on one row it says about make install : "If you have already a system with ALSA init script, you should install just only modules via 'make install-modules' so that the existing init script won't be replaced." I have alsa installed now but older version. should I only do a make-install-modules then?
[01:50] <zirjoker> !wine
[01:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:50] <Kyral> tsoler: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <iamtheric> bododo, 128 would be godly for m
[01:50] <iamtheric> me^
[01:50] <Flannel> tsoler: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <Kyral> I win :P
[01:50] <Flannel> tsoler: use aptitutde, since it'll make it easier to uninstall later if you choose to get rid of it
[01:51] <Flannel> Kyral: not if he wants to remove it ;)
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> tsoler: gksudo synaptic install kubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> because I'm contrarian
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> and/or confromist
[01:51] <bododo> iamtheric, it's 128 kilo bits per second
[01:51] <Kyral> Flannel: Aptitute works quite well with Apt-Get
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> s/ro/or
[01:51] <maxflax> And where is the init script? maybe I can do a backup on it before i install?
[01:51] <Spaceraverlinux> bododo, then i should not brag about my connection...
[01:51] <tsoler> that wiil install what ? only the wm?
[01:52] <bododo> Spaceraverlinux, no you shouldn't :)
[01:52] <Spaceraverlinux> tsoler, it will install the whole desktop
[01:52] <iamtheric> i wear flannel
[01:52] <Flannel> Kyral: apt-get won't remove the entire desktop thing when removes the meta package, aptitude makes that possible, he is just trying kde afterall
[01:52] <ianmacgregor> tsoler: That will install the KDE desktop environment
[01:52] <iamtheric> bododo, whats your average dl speed
[01:52] <iamtheric> ?
[01:52] <Kyral> Flannel: This is why I use Arch :P
[01:52] <bododo> 14 kilobytes per second
[01:52] <Kyral> Flannel: One Tool One Good Thing :P
[01:52] <Spaceraverlinux> ^what he said
[01:53] <tsoler> how much data is that?
[01:53] <iamtheric> bododo, why must you switch from redhat?
[01:53] <Spaceraverlinux> tsoler, you have capped dl??'
[01:53] <bododo> iamtheric, just despointed, theier community.. is...well.. very silent?
[01:53] <slop|lap> help : i have followed every tutorial i can find about watching DVD's...but still, when i put in a dvd in my laptop, it doesn't even pop up on my desktop!  please help!
[01:53] <Kyral> and For The Record
[01:53] <tsoler> whats this:)?/
[01:53] <Kyral> GConf Sucks :P
[01:53] <Noob1> ok i need help i came in erler and asked if there was a way to get a gui on the server version and i was told yes and to type " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it did not work what shuld i try now
[01:53] <ianmacgregor> tsoler: I agree with Flannel. Installing kubuntu-desktop with synaptic will make it a pain to uninstall KDE should you not want it. Installing it with aptitude will make it easy to uninstall it later. However, the version of apt-get that ships with edgy will fix that little problem, thanks to the bug report I submitted.
[01:54] <Flannel> Kyral: take it somewhere else
[01:54] <jbmigel> howcome i cant get my framebuffer resolution above 1024x768? my monitor supports 1280x1024 when in X
[01:54] <Kyral> Just that comment
[01:54] <Kyral> I don't intend to start flamewars
[01:54] <iamtheric> tsoler, apples and oranges
[01:54] <ianmacgregor> Kyral: Good, because I'd hate to have to use the ops trigger :)
[01:54] <Juhaz> Kyral, then you shouldn't flame
[01:54] <braino> tsoler: looks like 40kB, heres exactly what it installs: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/misc/kubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <Kyral> Juhaz: you know me well enough to know that I state my opinion openly
[01:55] <slop|lap> help : i have followed every tutorial i can find about watching DVD's...but still, when i put in a dvd in my laptop, it doesn't even pop up on my desktop!  please help!
[01:55] <Kyral> ..oh jeez do you REALLY want me to start a flamewar?
[01:55] <tsoler> thansk braino
[01:55] <Spaceraverlinux> slop|lap, relax we read it the first time
[01:56] <Spaceraverlinux> !dvd
[01:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:56] <redsoxfan90> hey need some help on something here.
[01:56] <slop|lap> Spaceraverlinux, i've followed those
[01:56] <Noob1> !gui
[01:56] <Spaceraverlinux> have you tried vlc??
[01:56] <Noob1> ok i need help i came in erler and asked if there was a way to get a gui on the server version and i was told yes and to type " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it did not work what shuld i try now
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <redsoxfan90> my trash can on the lower right corner isn't there was a few hours ago :)
[01:56] <Flannel> Noob1: What error did you get? since, that does work
[01:56] <Noob1> nothing loaded
[01:56] <bruenig> redsoxfan90, right click on the panel, and then click add to panel and then find the applet and click on it
[01:56] <slop|lap> Spaceraverlinux, no, but i think the problem is not the player...it doesn't pop up on the desktop when i insert a dvd
[01:56] <bododo> well it's very nice to meet you all guys and discover your world, be back for sure
[01:57] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: You want a dvd to popup in an app when you put the movie in the drive?
[01:57] <Spaceraverlinux> redsoxfan90, maybe ubuntu went out with the trash...
[01:57] <Flannel> Noob1: what error/response/etc did you get?
[01:57] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, i just want it to play dvds
[01:57] <spdf> slop|lap, So, You put the dvd in, load up Movie Player (totem), and it won't play?
[01:57] <Noob1> its just back to the start thing with ksa#ksashops:~$
[01:57] <eck0> hey to dl wine it says http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain
[01:57] <jorik> how can i check the 'RSA key fingerprint' of the ssh server running on my computer ?
[01:57] <eck0> but that site doesnt work
[01:57] <slop|lap> spdf, right, and neither will xine
[01:57] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[01:57] <Will> :'( i want sound
[01:57] <Noob1> i did not get any error it just stoped
[01:57] <Spaceraverlinux> ianmacgregor, i think he wants it to show on the desktop
[01:57] <Kyral> Noob1: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:57] <Noob1> ok
[01:57] <Will> does anyone know of any sound drivers that will work with the CS4236 ?
[01:57] <ianmacgregor> Spaceraverlinux: Yeah, Im gonna try and get that going for him
[01:57] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, i don't want it to set to automatically play, i just want it to work :P
[01:57] <Spaceraverlinux> np
[01:58] <Noob1> comand bot found
[01:58] <eck0> wat does deb do?
[01:58] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: So, you don't want the movie auto play, but you want the app to popup on the desktop so you can play the movie???
[01:58] <slop|lap> it won't play dvds...and i don't think it's recognizing them, as i'm not getting a dvd icon on the desktop when i insert a dvd (like i do on both of my desktops)
[01:58] <bruenig> !deb
[01:58] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:58] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, get this rep list http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236425
[01:58] <nym_> hey, how do i upgrade my ubuntu?
[01:59] <eck0> well i need to dl it
[01:59] <bruenig> nym_, to edgy?
[01:59] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, no lol...it won't play dvds...i'm just mentioning that it doesn't pop up on the desktop as a clue to why it won't play...i'm thinking it might not recognize dvd's or something
[01:59] <Will> !upgrade | nym_
[01:59] <ubotu> nym_: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:59] <eck0> and i went to debhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain and it was some crazy shit lol
[01:59] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, i just want to be able to play dvds on my laptop
[01:59] <nym_> thanks
[01:59] <spdf> slop|lap, do you have mplayer installed?
[02:00] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: Ok, here's how to get the icon to popup on the desktop. Applications -> System -> Configuration editor. Open that and let me know when it's open
[02:00] <redsoxfan90> ty bruenig!!!
[02:00] <redsoxfan90> cu all.
[02:00] <Spaceraverlinux> eck0, copy that list to your own repository list
[02:00] <Flannel> Noob1: pastebin your sources.list
[02:00] <Will> what does edgy run on GTK 1.X or GTX 2.X?
[02:00] <slop|lap> spdf, i don't think so...i have xine and totem that i know of
[02:00] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, ok , doing that
[02:00] <Spaceraverlinux> or overwrite it actually
[02:00] <spdf> slop|lap, if so, open up a terminal and "mplayer dvd://" and pastebin the output in the terminal..
[02:00] <Noob1> flannel how go i get to my sorces
[02:00] <tsoler> is kde installation only 40 kb???
[02:00] <Will> !GTK
[02:00] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[02:00] <Flannel> Noob1: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <Noob1> and im on a diffrent computor
[02:00] <jrib> tsoler: no
[02:00] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: When the conf editor is open, go to the left pane and go to apps/nautilus/desktop
[02:00] <LjL> Will: current Gnome uses GTK 2
[02:01] <eck0> debhttp://wine.budgetdedicated.com/aptdappermain is what the site told me to use
[02:01] <spdf> slop|lap, Or, try totem dvd://
[02:01] <Spaceraverlinux> is edgy stable enough to play with??
[02:01] <eck0> but i put it in mozilla didnt work rite
[02:01] <Noob1> i got permission denied
[02:01] <Flannel> !tell eck0 about wine
[02:01] <bruenig> eck0, you have to add that to your sources.list
[02:01] <bruenig> eck0, you have to add that to your sources.list
[02:01] <Noob1> Flannel i got permission denied
[02:01] <tsoler>  i want to test which is better for me kde or gnome
[02:02] <Flannel> Spaceraverlinux: its final release will be this thursday, RC1 right now.  so... hopefully.  #ubuntu+1 would be the best place for real answers to that though
[02:02] <slop|lap> spdf, ok, it seems the problem is with libdvdcss2
[02:02] <eck0> and i do that how???
[02:02] <Flannel> Noob1: you need to open that in a text editor
[02:02] <slop|lap> spdf, i got this message in the GUI : The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[02:02] <tsoler> can anyone tellme how much trouble it is to make the transit
[02:02] <fatsheep> will dapper automatically update to edgy once it becomes officially supported?
[02:02] <slop|lap> spdf, but i have libdvdcss2 installed
[02:02] <spdf> slop|lap, Make sure
[02:02] <Noob1> im on the server virsion and im trying to get the gui i have no real idea how to do that Flannel
[02:02] <slop|lap> spdf, how?
[02:03] <bruenig> eck0, open a terminal and do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, once in there just paste that line anywhere in it. Save. Then back in the terminal do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[02:03] <Flannel> fatsheep: no, it'll ask you though
[02:03] <ianmacgregor> Juhaz: I am ssh'ing into another box where I have admin privs (sudo), how do I log out a user via command line on that other box?
[02:03] <fatsheep> ok cool
[02:03] <spdf> slop|lap, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[02:03] <Flannel> Noob1: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <GhostFreeman> !lastfm
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lastfm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <GhostFreeman> thanks anyways ubotu
[02:03] <spdf> slop|lap, Should give you "libdvdcss2 is already newest version."
[02:03] <ianmacgregor> spdf: He may not have the repo for that
[02:03] <slop|lap> spdf, yup it's installed already
[02:03] <bruenig> !bot
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[02:03] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, i do, it's installed
[02:03] <ianmacgregor> or maybe he does, lol
[02:03] <slop|lap> lol
[02:04] <Noob1> Flannel: what do u want to know on all these pages
[02:04] <SAM_theman> yo hommies
[02:04] <Spaceraverlinux> i think i will try edgy now...
[02:04] <SAM_theman> who wants to dual me in ET
[02:04] <Flannel> Noob1: you need to paste them into the pastebin
[02:04] <Flannel> !paste
[02:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:04] <Flannel> SAM_theman: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <slop|lap> spdf, mplayer dvd:// doesn't work either, it gives me an error in terminal
[02:04] <Noob1> im on a diffrent computor i cnat
[02:04] <Flannel> Noob1: are you SSHd in? or what?
[02:04] <Noob1> *cant
[02:04] <spdf> slop|lap, What error?
[02:04] <spdf> slop|lap, pastebin it
[02:04] <eck0> tells me deb command not found so umm ya
[02:04] <SAM_theman> Flannel, smart one in the ubutnu server
[02:05] <slop|lap> spdf, k, doing that
[02:05] <bruenig> eck0, did you do what I said?
[02:05] <eck0> i missed it sry
[02:05] <eck0> i accidently clsoed it
[02:05] <xipietotec> okay...upgraded to edgy but now my wifi card doesn't work, I used ndiswrapper to get it working previously, how can I get it working now?
[02:05] <bruenig> you were in here when I said it I believe but of not, <bruenig> eck0, open a terminal and do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, once in there just paste that line anywhere in it. Save. Then back in the terminal do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[02:05] <Flannel> xipietotec: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[02:05] <xipietotec> ah, kay
[02:05] <slop|lap> spdf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27907/
[02:06] <spdf> slop|lap, hmm.. is your cdrom /dev/hdc?
[02:06] <Noob1> i got the server virsion off your website now i have it loaded but there is no gui with it... i did what some one told me to do and all i got was a blank page so i hit restart on my cpu and it loaded nothing... im new to linux so i dont know what to do... right now im on my windows so i can see what to do
[02:06] <tsoler> goodnight to all
[02:06] <spdf> slop|lap, Its looking for /dev/dvd, check to see if that exists
[02:06] <slop|lap> spdf, i'm not sure...i just installed...how do i check?
[02:06] <tsoler> here is too late
[02:07] <Flannel> Noob1: You can connect to IRC on the server version, 'irssi' is installed, and lynx is isntalled (thats a web browser)
[02:07] <tsoler> next time will see kde
[02:07] <spdf> slop|lap, run mount in the terminal
[02:07] <slop|lap> spdf, just did that, it doesn't list a dvd drive
[02:07] <spdf> slop|lap, it'll list all mounted volumes, You're looking for the one linked to /media/cdrom
[02:07] <rag> one easy question
[02:07] <Flannel> Noob1: anyway, is the computer connected to the internet? we really need more information other than "it didn't work" to diagnose the problem
[02:07] <slop|lap> spdf, its not mounted
[02:08] <spdf> slop|lap, mount /media/cdrom
[02:08] <coincoin169> helo to alla
[02:08] <Spaceraverlinux> rag, shoot
[02:08] <coincoin169> hello to all
[02:08] <rag> creative web cam support
[02:08] <coincoin169> scuz me
[02:08] <Noob1> well flannel dose the server version gave a gui
[02:08] <Spaceraverlinux> coincoin169, hello to you too
[02:08] <slop|lap> spdf, it says mount: No medium found
[02:08] <rag> Spaceraverlinux: creative web cam support
[02:08] <Flannel> Noob1: you can install a GUI, but no it does't have a GUI installed by default
[02:08] <spdf> slop|lap, Is there a dvd/cd in the drive?
[02:08] <slop|lap> spdf, there's definately a dvd in the drive
[02:08] <coincoin169> do i need to compile mesa or/and dri in order to install nvidia driver or all is included in the nvidia driver ???
[02:09] <Spaceraverlinux> Noob1, have you used startx??
[02:09] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: Run gmplayer, go to the prefs, go to the Misc tab and at the bottom, set your dirves up
[02:09] <Noob1> well can u tell me how to install a gui so i can just start all over
[02:09] <Noob1> Spaceraverlinux no
[02:09] <eck0> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:09] <eck0> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:09] <eck0> is only available from another source
[02:09] <eck0> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[02:09] <Noob1> i have no idea what that even is
[02:09] <rag> Spaceraverlinux: do you know links or package drivers for creative web cam?
[02:09] <Flannel> Noob1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is how you install the GUI
[02:09] <bruenig> eck0, you added that repo and did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"?
[02:09] <Flannel> Noob1: unless you want to reinstall entirely, in which case download the desktop or alternate (I suggest the latter) to install
[02:10] <eck0> thats all 1 command i thought i was 2 klol
[02:10] <Spaceraverlinux> Noob1, might wanna try that... if you just installed the desktop it might not "just start"...
[02:10] <bruenig> eck0, it doesn't matter, doing seperate should do the same thing
[02:10] <eck0> same thing
[02:10] <rockzman> How do I activate my video card 3d Acceleration
[02:10] <eck0> says its not there
[02:10] <bruenig> eck0, you are sure you added that repo into /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:11] <eck0> ya
[02:11] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, i can't...when i run it, it just locks up, doesn't even give me menus to click on or anythhing, just two blank boxes
[02:11] <bruenig> eck0, pastebin your sources.list
[02:11] <bruenig> !paste
[02:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:11] <eck0> its # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:11] <bruenig> eck0, you have to delete that #
[02:12] <eck0> ok 1  sec
[02:12] <jbmigel> Why wont framebuffer goto 1280x1024? my monitor supports it... but at boot I get "invalid number" @ vga=0x31A
[02:12] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: Are you using gnome with xgl or compiz?
[02:12] <Flannel> eck0: you probably don't want deb-src either, deb instead
[02:12] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, nope, just standard install
[02:12] <b08y> backports!
[02:12] <bruenig> eck0, also there should be another line in there that looks like this, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:12] <Noob1> well i had the desk top version
[02:12] <Spaceraverlinux> off to bed... nn all
[02:12] <Noob1> but i did not have all the stuff the server did
[02:12] <ianmacgregor> slop|lap: Did you install mplayer from the repos?
[02:12] <Flannel> Noob1: Right, you can install that later though
[02:12] <Noob1> ohh ok
[02:13] <slop|lap> ianmacgregor, yes
[02:13] <eck0> got it thanks man
[02:13] <Noob1> well ill install the desktop agan
[02:13] <Flannel> !tell Noob1 about lamp
[02:13] <Flannel> Noob1: that's how (the link ubotu gave you)
[02:13] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I have an LVM question: If I have a dev (/hda) with 4 partitions, is it possible to convert one of the partitions to be managed by LVM but leave the others as physical partitions?
[02:13] <ink251> how would I edit a packages source before installing it?
[02:13] <Noob1> ok
[02:13] <[Daniel] > Woo hoo! The printer works!
[02:14] <baxter_kylie> ink251: If you've downloaded the source it should be in /usr/src
[02:14] <Flannel> ink251: download the source package instead of the binary package
[02:14] <ink251> parallax: you do anything with basic stamps?
[02:14] <ink251> how would i set it to download the source instead of the binary?
[02:14] <Flannel> ink251: apt-get source [package] 
[02:15] <Parallax> Basic stamps? I don't know a thing about them.
[02:15] <spdf> slop|lap, cat /proc/diskstats and pastebin that
[02:15] <baxter_kylie> ink251: What Flannel said.
[02:15] <ink251> oh, the company that makes them is parallax
[02:15] <Flannel> ink251: you'll also maybe need apt-get build-dep [package]  which will download the dependencies
[02:15] <bimberi> ink251: enable source repositories (deb-src lines in sources.list) if required
[02:15] <ink251> ok that helps, thanks
[02:15] <ink251> sometimes i like to tweak my programs a little
[02:15] <Parallax> Anyone know of any particular issues with the installation partioner in the latest release (of Ubuntu)?
[02:15] <slop|lap> spdf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27908/
[02:16] <spdf> slop|lap, try mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[02:16] <slop|lap> spdf, it returned "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[02:17] <timwizzy> Should is use Ubuntu or Debian for my apache, ftp, email server?
[02:17] <shriphani> guys getting some hardware here no need help
[02:17] <eck0> ok im tryng to install a program but not working great....
[02:17] <ianmacgregor> spdf: There's no file system on /dev/hdc
[02:17] <shriphani> should i get an amd or an intel
[02:17] <emacsen> How do I disable ryhtombox from turning on when I plug in my ipod?
[02:17] <spdf> slop|lap, mount /dev/hdc -t auto /media/cdrom
[02:17] <timwizzy> Can someome tell me, whats the deal with ubuntu not having a root logon?
[02:17] <ink251> tim: debian, you wont need all the user friendly features ubuntu has
[02:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell timwizzy about root
[02:17] <emacsen> timwizzy, you don't need it
[02:17] <slop|lap> spdf, same result
[02:17] <ianmacgregor> !sudo > ink251
[02:18] <ink251> tim: sudo passwd
[02:18] <ink251> once you set a password
[02:18] <ink251> and change the login settings
[02:18] <ianmacgregor> !sudo > timwizzy
[02:18] <ink251> you can login as root
[02:18] <ianmacgregor> ink251: Sorry about that
[02:18] <rodneyendor> timwizzy sudo bash
[02:18] <eck0> so were does stuff save that i dl with me putting it in a dir, like whats default dir
[02:18] <Flannel> ink251: no, there's no need.  Stop.  He's got sudo, he's wondering about sudo, not how to get a root login
[02:18] <ink251> ian: its cool
[02:18] <bruenig> eck0, what are you trying to do?
[02:18] <eck0> i downloaded a windows program to emu
[02:18] <ianmacgregor> ink251: Please don't tell people to set a root password, it isn't supported configuration
[02:19] <eck0> and were does it save ?
[02:19] <shriphani> emacsen, System -----> Preferences -------> Removable Drives and Media
[02:19] <engla> hi. How do I get more dictionaries? I installed dictd, but I want more that the available dictionaries from the repositories. for example is there a german-german dictionary?
[02:19] <Flannel> eck0: depends on how you downloaded it, and where that defaults to save it
[02:19] <bruenig> eck0, where did you save it when you downloaded it?
[02:19] <ink251> flannel: someone might find that information usefull, uber security is not a big deal among someone who would use ubuntu
[02:19] <eck0> it just auto saved
[02:19] <emacsen> shriphani, wow, that seems... random. Is that documented somewhere?
[02:19] <eck0> didnt let me choose
[02:19] <Flannel> ink251: right, but the root sudo page has that already.  Normal users who ask about root only do so because they don't know how sudo works.
[02:20] <shriphani> emacsen, thats the only way i know of
[02:20] <bruenig> eck0, it probably saves it in your home folder
[02:20] <shriphani> from there go to e multimedia tab
[02:20] <ink251> or they hate that prompt to login every time you change a a setting
[02:20] <baxter_kylie> ink251: Indeed. And the few of us that need root access for certain applications can usually get by with fakeroot
[02:20] <emacsen> shriphani, yeah I appreciate it. Just disconcerting to an old *nix user :)
[02:20] <Flannel> ink251: there are sudo solutions to that too, sudo -i or sudo -s
[02:20] <rodneyendor> sudo bash works for me
[02:21] <shriphani> at the bottom you should see a Portable Players option
[02:21] <shriphani> change the command to whatever you want
[02:21] <JamesT> Hello everyone
[02:21] <JamesT> anyone here?
[02:21] <eck0> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\LimeWireWin.exe": Module not found
[02:21] <ianmacgregor> JamesT: hi
[02:21] <robbi> Hi all,
[02:21] <emacsen> JamesT, yes, we're waiting for the question :)
[02:21] <JamesT> Hello
[02:21] <ink251> eck0: use gtk-gnutella
[02:21] <JamesT> I see
[02:21] <fnf> JamesT: yes ?
[02:22] <eck0> gtk?
[02:22] <timwizzy> How is the "First User" different to other users?
[02:22] <JamesT> is there a way to play battlefield 1942 on Ubuntu Linux?
[02:22] <JamesT> It's a game for windows
[02:22] <emacsen> timwizzy, it's added to all the groups
[02:22] <ink251> try apt-get install wine
[02:22] <brasko> anyone know how to get the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package installed?
[02:22] <ink251> then run the exe with wine
[02:22] <eck0> if its doesnt work on wine
[02:22] <brasko> I need it for the nomachine's nx client
[02:22] <eck0> u need WineX its like 5 am onth
[02:22] <timwizzy> emacsen: is that really the only difference.
[02:22] <emacsen> JamesT, maybe, if it works in Wine. Otherwise, no
[02:22] <robbi> I've got a Dell Dimension, and I just installed a Netgear MA311 (PCI) in it.  It also has an onboard Ethernet connector, and that is what I am using now.
[02:22] <shriphani> brasko, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:22] <bruenig> eck0, why don't you use a linux gnutella client?
[02:22] <fnf> JamesT: there is, but not guaranteed to work, try searching for wine package, or the commercial Cedega
[02:22] <timwizzy> How do i manage users and groups
[02:22] <Quash> Can anyone tell me how to boot in to the 6.10 Desktop CD with a vesa generic monitor command?  I can't boot in and think it may because Xorg doesn't recognize my Compaq P1100 monitor.
[02:22] <ink251> check out the wine applications database
[02:23] <eck0> im gonna
[02:23] <Parallax> JamesT, I'm not sure how far they've achieved in emulating DirectX, but that is a huge task for a game like that.
[02:23] <robbi> But the wifi card doesn't even
[02:23] <emacsen> timwizzy, what /exactly/ are you asking?
[02:23] <robbi> show up in Networking.
[02:23] <slop|lap> spdf, when i run regionset, i get this : ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"! Please ensure there is a readable CD or DVD in the drive.
[02:23] <brasko> is there any way to see what files will be installed from a given name like build-essential?
[02:23] <shriphani> so is am or intel better
[02:23] <shriphani> amd ^
[02:23] <brasko> before actually installing it?
[02:23] <slop|lap> spdf, i've done this with 3 different dvds
[02:23] <timwizzy> I read somewhere that the first user has special privlafges
[02:23] <JamesT> hmm... I really want to use linux but I need to be able to do everything I can do on a windows system
[02:23] <emacsen> timwizzy, yeah, it's added to the group so that it can run sudo
[02:23] <shriphani> brasko, it should list all the sff and then ask you if you wanna proceed
[02:24] <JamesT> I'm downloading the Ubuntu desktop cd now
[02:24] <Keyseir> Hey, I just ran dist-upgrade on my breezy badger system upgrading to dapper drake. After it finished and I restarted, X wouldn't start up, no GUI. Do I have to alter this "config" file? How?
[02:24] <ianmacgregor> timwizzy: Yes, the first user has admin privs. You can manage users and groups with: gksu users-admin
[02:24] <emacsen> JamesT, if by "everything" you mean running binaries, then forget it.
[02:24] <robbi> and I'm running 6.06.
[02:24] <Parallax> You can run a BF1942 server, but not the client game.
[02:24] <brasko> yes, sorry, I'm wondering what exactly will be installed in the filesystem, when installing a package.
[02:24] <JamesT> I see
[02:24] <brasko> like, when installing bash you'll see /bin/bash and /etc/profile, ...
[02:24] <emacsen> JamesT, that's like saying "I won't use Windows unless it runs my OSX apps"
[02:24] <brasko> is there a command to do that?
[02:24] <spdf> slop|lap, You're sure its a dvd capable drive?
[02:24] <slop|lap> spdf, yeah, it says DVD ROM on it :p
[02:24] <JamesT> Well that's not exactly what I meant to say
[02:24] <JamesT> I love linux and everything about it.
[02:25] <JamesT> I wish I could run it all the time
[02:25] <ink251> me too
[02:25] <brasko> actually, is there a way to do 'dpkg -L packagename', but before the package is installed?
[02:25] <JamesT> would you recommend running a dual boot system with windows xp and linux?
[02:25] <ink251> nah
[02:25] <JamesT> I have an extra HD to run it from
[02:25] <ink251> use wine to run windows apps
[02:25] <Keyseir> Could I please get some help? I upgraded breezy to dapper and now X won't load up
[02:25] <ink251> i just recently made the switch
[02:25] <eck0> dude u can run games on linux
[02:25] <eck0> if u got 5 a month
[02:25] <JamesT> Wine will run most windows apps?
[02:25] <Flannel> JamesT: Check winehq.com for compatability, see if whatever games are supported/etc
[02:25] <y0gibear> I'm running dual boot with xp, ubuntu is on my slave hd
[02:25] <ink251> and havent had to use windows since
[02:25] <JamesT> I see
[02:26] <Quash> Keyseir: I am having a very similar problem right now, but when I boot in from the Edgy CD my screen goes blank.  Could be the same thing.
[02:26] <spdf> Keyseir, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:26] <emacsen> JamesT, personally, now a days, I'd either run Wine, or I'd spend the money on another computer. For real work, there's nothing I can't do in my GNU/Linux system
[02:26] <JamesT> thanks for the help guys
[02:26] <ink251> most simple programs
[02:26] <JamesT> I'm really looking to start using linux more
[02:26] <ink251> some games
[02:26] <Quash> Keyseir: You may want to try this, first.  Didn't work for me, but could work for you...
[02:26] <JamesT> I want to get away from windows completely if possible
[02:26] <ink251> does networking pretty well
[02:26] <adioe3> How do I set the value of a variable to be the output of: date +%d-%M-%Y ????
[02:26] <Quash> Keyseir: alt + ctrl + F6
[02:26] <Quash> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <Quash> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:26] <emacsen> JamesT, well, other than your game, is there anything else?
[02:26] <Quash> Then control+alt+f7 to go back to GDM
[02:26] <ink251> is it going to be on a desktop or a laptop
[02:26] <Keyseir> spdf: What about pastebin..?
[02:27] <eck0> james do you got 5 bucks a month you can pay?
[02:27] <ianmacgregor> JamesT: It's indeed possible. I haven't touched Windows in years.
[02:27] <skelter> Anyone have any experience getting SDL/openGL working with ubuntu?
[02:27] <rockzman> X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
[02:27] <rockzman>  can someone tell me why is this error ocurring
[02:27] <Keyseir> Quash: Hm, ok
[02:27] <totall_6_7> JamesT: getting away from Windows totaly is a great feeling, trust me i know :D:D
[02:27] <JamesT> Yeah, that one disk download for the Ubuntu Desktop CD, if I want to permanently install Ubuntu as a second OS on my Windows system, can I do that directly from the Ubuntu CD I'm getting now?
[02:27] <Flannel> !tell JamesT about dualboot
[02:27] <JamesT> Or does it have to download more stuff during the install process
[02:28] <Flannel> JamesT: nope, what you have is fine.  See the link ubotu sent you for more information
[02:28] <Quash> spdf: do you know how to boot in to the CD/DVD with a vesa generic monitor option in the boot sequence?  I don't think Xorg recognizes my Compaq P1100 monitor.
[02:28] <eck0> i wonder if i can get eve-online to run thru wine
[02:28] <emacsen> JamesT, yes, but Windows gets funky about boot loaders. A few years ago it may have been worth it. I don't think it is anymore
[02:28] <ink251> you will want to download some more things to make it user friendly
[02:28] <eck0> or if i need cydego
[02:28] <ink251> but it will work find right off of the cd
[02:28] <ink251> jamesT, check out Beryl on google video
[02:28] <ink251> if thats not a reason to switch i dont know what is
[02:29] <Quash> ianmacgregor: do you know how to boot in to the CD/DVD with a vesa generic monitor option in the boot sequence? I don't think Xorg recognizes my Compaq P1100 monitor.
[02:29] <Parallax> Has anyone here installed an Ubuntu (server) on a RAID5 machine?
[02:29] <eck0> so were does wine put the dir for my stuff that i emu
[02:29] <bimberi> adioe3: var=`date +%d-%m-%Y`   (note that month is lowercase m, M is minutes)
[02:29] <ink251> ~/.wine
[02:29] <eck0> k
[02:29] <adioe3> tnx
[02:29] <JamesT> Would you guys say that Ubuntu is the best linux for a home user such as myself?
[02:29] <fnf> Quash: I'll want to take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the Monitor section is probably screwed up. Try '#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' first.
[02:30] <JamesT> I like a lot of the features it offers
[02:30] <ink251> JamesT: its the best for making the windows/linux switch
[02:30] <emacsen> JamesT, I'd say it's the best GNU/Linux distribution for most users, yes
[02:30] <ianmacgregor> Quash: No, but it's quite easy to back up xorg.conf, edit it and restart X
[02:30] <duckdown> ubuntu is awesome for new users...
[02:30] <jrib> JamesT: it's a good distribution imo, but best depends on your individual needs and preferences
[02:30] <JamesT> The only other distro I was looking at is Fedora Core
[02:30] <Quash> ianmacgregor: I'm going fromt the CD, so can't edit.
[02:30] <duckdown> JamesT i tried fedora before ubuntu.. i love ubuntu way more
[02:30] <JamesT> Since I am familiar with Red Hat command line
[02:30] <skelter> JamesT: I have both fedora and ubuntu. i recommend ubuntu. it's a lot nicer
[02:30] <emacsen> JamesT, for just a regular user, it's probably the best you'll find.
[02:31] <skelter> things just work
[02:31] <duckdown> but i'm a n00b so what the hell do i know
[02:31] <ianmacgregor> Quash: Oh, livecd? I don't know about that as I don't use the livecd.
[02:31] <spdf> Quash, When you boot select one of the rescue options. It'll give you a command line
[02:31] <Y0da^> can anyone point me in the right direction for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?
[02:31] <JamesT> Is Ubuntu similar to red hat at all?  I mean command line?
[02:31] <emacsen> JamesT, there's no red hat command line, the command line is the same between distributions
[02:31] <JamesT> I see
[02:31] <duckdown> JamesT> No, fedora is.. this is similar to debian
[02:31] <emacsen> duckdown, he means is bash still bash
[02:31] <duckdown> emacsen oh :)
[02:31] <eck0> im back lol
[02:32] <ianmacgregor> JamesT: The package manager commands are quite different but the command line is usually the same for most distros.
[02:32] <JamesT> Yeah basically just wondering if the shell commands are the same/similar
[02:32] <emacsen> JamesT, the differences between Ubuntu and Red Hat are minor
[02:32] <Juhaz> ianmacgregor, kill his login shell?
[02:32] <Quash> fnf: I've tried Try '#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but couldn't access terminal from boot.  The CD booted past the boot splash but when it went to load the desktop, the screen went black.  Ctrl+Alt+6 didn't access terminal, so I couldn't do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and don't know how to, otherwise.
[02:32] <duckdown> yum is so damn slow.. I love apt
[02:32] <ianmacgregor> Juhaz: That would work, you know the command for that?
[02:32] <baxter_kylie> Any have any experience with LVM?
[02:32] <emacsen> JamesT, the shell is the same. Just a few things will be in a few different places, and a couple of different commands. Like driving a different model car
[02:33] <Y0da^> can anyone point me in the right direction for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?
[02:33] <eck0> ntn
[02:33] <JamesT> If dual boot isn't recommended, perhaps I should just install Ubuntu on my spare pc and see how much I can accomplish without windows.
[02:33] <DeCaelo> Does anyone here have any expereince with the 915resolution tool
[02:33] <emacsen> JamesT, honestly, that's what I'd do
[02:34] <Y0da^> i dual just fine
[02:34] <fnf> Quash: the installer CD has a rescue mode, try to see it if boots to the terminal, else append 'single' to the boot parameter. Btw, it is Ctrt+Alt+F[1-6] 
[02:34] <emacsen> Jimbo, you can try to dual boot. I'd be more concerned about Windows not working than anything else
[02:34] <rbil> installed ubuntu-server on an epia system and just trying to install openssh-server. It is now in the process of generating a DSA key and says this may take some time ... how long would this normally take on a lo-powered mobo like this? Don't know if it's hung or indeed just taking its time.
[02:34] <Y0da^> just dont install over the ntfs partitions
[02:35] <emacsen> rbil, maybe 3-4 seconds, max
[02:35] <spdf> rbil, shouldn't take very long at all.
[02:35] <Quash> fnf: will rescue mode give me other options on how to boot in the Live Desktop?  I need to do this first, before installing, to make sure I don't have install issues after I wipe Breezy. :)
[02:35] <rbil> oops, never mind ... finally made its way thru it.
[02:35] <rbil> this is a real low powered box.
[02:35] <emacsen> rbil, apparently!
[02:35] <rbil> going to use it simply as a samba server
[02:35] <spdf> rbil, How low?
[02:36] <Quash> otherwise, I'd just install via the text install option, cross my fingers, hold my breath and go for broke. :)
[02:36] <jrib> is it possible to make nautilus call 'command selection1 selection2' where 'selection1' and 'selection2' are the two files that I select in a drag and select for example and then right click and open?
[02:36] <fnf> Quash: I haven't used Ubuntu desktop CD so no idea about that, but you'll need to boot to single mode to check the xorg.conf.
[02:36] <rbil> epia mII6000E mobo :-)
[02:37] <brasko> ok, I still haven't found the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package.
[02:37] <Y0da^> where can i go for installing wolfenstein enamy terratory?
[02:37] <brasko> Is it available in ubuntu?
[02:37] <ubuntu_newb> finally, a nick that wasn't registered lol
[02:37] <jrib> brasko: have you enabled universe?
[02:37] <spdf> 600mhz.. mmf, that's hot.
[02:37] <ink251> JamesT: i wouldnt recommend that, if you use windows every time you are uncomfortable with ubuntu you wont learn to use it well, getting it customized for your preferences is half the fun
[02:37] <Quash> fnf: how do I boot to single mode? And will this confirm the Xorg LiveCD file or my Breezy one?  Installed Breezy in fine.
[02:37] <ubuntu_newb> do you have to boot from the Ubuntu CD to run from the cd or can I run it through windows?
[02:37] <DarkMageZ> Y0da^, did you install it systemwide or just to your local user?
[02:38] <emacsen> ubuntu_newb, you boot from it
[02:38] <Y0da^> i'm having problems installing it
[02:38] <Y0da^> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[02:38] <Quash> Right now, I just want to boot in via Vesa to rule that out as the problem.
[02:38] <CAsurfer> Can somebody help me with my apt-get problem?  Whenever I install a package, apt-get also tries to install an old package which was installed successfully, but which apt-get thinks wasn't installed.  So whenever I use apt-get, it tries to install an unnecessary package and fails.  Does anyone know how to fix something like this?
[02:39] <jrib> CAsurfer: what package?  Can you pastebin the apt-get output?
[02:39] <Zarephath> I need to connect a windows machine to a nfs share..googling thus far has only revealed costly software..anyone have an easy solution other than putting linux on that machine?
[02:39] <fnf> Quash: I suspect adding 'single' to the boot parameter should be enough. What what do you mean by 'confirm the xorg Live CD files' ?
[02:39] <CAsurfer> jrib: vmware
[02:39] <brasko> jrib: no
[02:40] <ink251> Zare: \\machine\share in run
[02:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell brasko about universe
[02:40] <CAsurfer> jrib, refine that: vmware-player
[02:40] <ubuntu_newb> vmware player is awsome
[02:41] <brasko> jrib: is there a downside to adding universe?
[02:41] <Zarephath> ink251: Kewl thanks
[02:41] <CAsurfer> ubuntu_newb, I know, I just wish apt-get would realize that it's already installed
[02:41] <ubuntu_newb> it allows you to run other operating systems on your windows machine.  For example: you can run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on your Windows system.  Why anyone would want to do that, I don't know unless it is for learning purposes.
[02:42] <skelter> Anyone ever have problems getting SDL/openGL working? Getting "Video initialization failed: Unsupported console hardware" from a nehe lesson
[02:42] <jrib> brasko: not really, though it is not guaranteed to get security updates from the official ubuntu team.  You can read the specifics in the "components" wiki page ubotu should have linked you too, but most people end up enabling universe (and multiverse)
[02:42] <ianmacgregor> Why anyone would run Windows, I don't know.. unless it's for insanity reasons.
[02:42] <Zarephath> ubuntu_newb: I use it to run windows under ubuntu! And it even runs better than natively :-O
[02:42] <eck0> ok how do i log onto my windows
[02:42] <jrib> CAsurfer: the apt-get output will probably be helpful as well
[02:42] <eck0> it auto goes to my linux
[02:42] <ubuntu_newb> wait... I can run windows on Ubuntu?
[02:42] <eck0> no
[02:42] <Zarephath> I can point out one reason...you can't sync a pocket pc running mobile 5 OS on any versino of linux without a bunch of hacking
[02:42] <eck0> i have 2 hdd
[02:42] <ink251> use wine for that
[02:42] <phire> Zarephath: Does it hve directX support
[02:43] <b08y> ubuntu_newb: u can, with vmware server
[02:43] <ubuntu_newb> vmware server for linux?
[02:43] <eck0> vmware?
[02:43] <ubuntu_newb> is that free?
[02:43] <phire> no
[02:43] <b08y> jeah
[02:43] <b08y> it is
[02:43] <Badkitty> Anyone want to try to help me get my wireless working??? Im still noob but I got it to work on my laptop but not my desktop
[02:43] <Zarephath> phire: Not sure..think so...I am not using for anything other than syncing my pocketpc
[02:43] <brasko> jrib: ok, I read the pages
[02:43] <brasko> jrib: but still don't see exactly how to turn it on
[02:43] <Zarephath> Badkitty: What does sudo iwlink show you?
[02:44] <ubuntu_newb> it allows you to run other operating systems on your windows machine.  For example: you can run Ubuntu in a virtual machine on your Windows system.
[02:44] <ink251> i have a bunch of old laptops laying around anyone got any idea on what to do with them, think interactive picture frame, cluster, etc
[02:44] <jrib> brasko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories is pretty straightforward
[02:44] <Zarephath> ink251: I would beowulf them...heh
[02:44] <Lubix> is anyone else having a bugaliscious time with eft edgy right now?
[02:44] <b08y> ubuntu_newb: vmware server 4 linux works great!
[02:44] <eck0> how do i logon to my windows
[02:44] <ubuntu_newb> He is saying that using vmware server could run windows xp on Ubuntu
[02:44] <eck0> it just auto puts me on linux
[02:44] <Lubix> my Gaim keeps messing up
[02:44] <ubuntu_newb> that's awsome
[02:44] <ink251> i want to do that thing from antitrust where the pictures change depending on whos in the room
[02:44] <Lubix> crashes left and right
[02:44] <jrib> brasko: go to "managing repositories" then "adding universe"
[02:44] <brasko> jrib: I see, thanks.
[02:45] <CAsurfer> jrib, the essence of the output is "Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:45] <CAsurfer>  vmware-player
[02:45] <CAsurfer> " Basically, apt-get keeps trying and failing.  Is there some kind of "refresh" or "clean" or "check for dependencies" or "stop being stupid" command that I can give apt-get that will resolve simple errors? Is there a way that I can see the queue of things apt-get thinks it should install, so that I can remove things from that queue?
[02:45] <Lubix> please tell me you people have similar problems with edgy!
[02:45] <ubuntu_newb> I have a Core 2 Duo system with 2GB of ram, I should be able to run vmware server with no problem.
[02:45] <Badkitty> Zarephath... I've triefd some tuts a few weeks ago.. how do i use iwlink?
[02:45] <Zarephath> Lubix: First and foremost you are in the wrong channel..ask your edgy questions in #ubuntu+
[02:45] <ink251> is vmware what you use on a dualcore to run 2 os's in parallel?
[02:46] <jrib> CAsurfer: does 'apt-cache policy vmware-player' say it is installed?
[02:46] <b08y> ubuntu_newb: im runing it on p4 1,8 ghz, works well
[02:46] <Zarephath> Badkitty: I just told you...re-read what I typed
[02:46] <CAsurfer> ubuntu_newb, with a Core 2 Duo, you should have the hardware to run Xen. Have you tried it? You should be able to get blazing-fast virtualization.
[02:46] <ubuntu_newb> you can run 2 os's on a single processor machine using vmware
[02:46] <Zarephath> Don't forget Badkitty to include the device name of your wireless card
[02:46] <b08y> ubuntu_newb: but xen would be better in your case
[02:46] <abo> hi, when I double click in Nautilus on  a ntfs drive that I have, it says sorry cannot mount drive, but the drive is already mounted, why does it try to mount it again?
[02:46] <ubuntu_newb> but I think dual core/ dual processor is better since it allows you to dedicate one processor to each os or whatever
[02:46] <CAsurfer> jrib, it says it's installed
[02:46] <Badkitty> Zarephath... ok then i says command not found
[02:47] <Zarephath> b08y: Yeah but doesn't that require a kernel compile?
[02:47] <ubuntu_newb> xen?
[02:47] <Zarephath> Badkitty: Do you have the wireless tools installed?
[02:47] <Zarephath> !wireless
[02:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:47] <b08y> Zarephath: i think so, and u cant run windows with xen
[02:47] <CAsurfer> ubuntu_newb, there's a good wikipedia article on Xen
[02:47] <b08y> ubuntu_newb: just google xen , but atm no windows with xen
[02:48] <ink251> any of you know a good overclocking channel?
[02:48] <jrib> CAsurfer: well 'apt-get install -f' will try resolving dependencies and 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' will reconfigure unconfigured stuff.  I'm not sure which you want without seeing the error
[02:48] <Zarephath> b08y: Yeah..just trying to make the point that is probably beyond his skillset at this time...
[02:48] <b08y> :D
[02:48] <jrib> CAsurfer: simply 'apt-get install vmware-player' may help too
[02:48] <Zarephath> Really? vmware-player is in the repos now..go figure..heh
[02:49] <Badkitty> I've tried several of the wiki's but still no avail. I just re-installed edgy and got a different wireless lan card, so no i don't have the tools downloaded
[02:49] <Zarephath> Badkitty: You will have to install the wireless tools first...
[02:50] <rubyscube> hmm.. has beryl been removed from the tree?... when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??
[02:50] <ink251> is there a gnome applet to show my disk space?
[02:50] <Badkitty> Allright let me work on that...
[02:50] <mjelva> i feel really retarded asking this, but i figured i'd give ubuntu a try, and now i'm stuck. i got the desktop cd, booted from it, chose the "boot from cd / install" option (whatever the specific wording is. the top option on the list). so it booted as with a live-cd, and i'm not sure how to proceed from here. anyone?
[02:50] <DeCaelo> Does anyone here have experience using an intel 900 series graphics card in Ubuntu or perhaps have used the tool 915resolution?
[02:50] <Zarephath> Badkitty: You should be able to lspci(I assume your wireless card is PCI)..you should see the card listed....first question answered..if it shows up then linux sees the card
[02:50] <ink251> look for the install icon on the desktop
[02:50] <Zarephath> Badkitty: I believe also lshw will show you as well...someone correct me if this is bad information
[02:51] <mjelva> ink251: i'm not able to do that. i'll have to do it via commandline. how do i?
[02:51] <Zarephath> Badkitty: Once you have determined that linux sees the hardware you need to figure out how to install the drivers...
[02:51] <CAsurfer> jrib, Starting VMware services:
[02:51] <CAsurfer>    Virtual machine monitor                                            failed
[02:51] <CAsurfer>    Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
[02:51] <CAsurfer> Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before
[02:51] <CAsurfer> running this script.
[02:51] <CAsurfer> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[02:51] <CAsurfer> dpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure):
[02:51] <CAsurfer>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:51] <CAsurfer> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:51] <CAsurfer>  vmware-player
[02:51] <jrib> CAsurfer: not here, use a pastebin!
[02:51] <CAsurfer> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:51] <Zarephath> Badkitty: I will shoot you a link just a sec..this will show if your card is supported fully or not...
[02:51] <ianmacgregor> !pastebin > CAsurfer
[02:52] <DCGrendel> anyone know why the installer has -- at the end of the kernel commandline?
[02:52] <CAsurfer> sorry, what's a pastebin?
[02:52] <mjelva> pastebin.ca
[02:52] <Zarephath> Badkitty: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php
[02:52] <ink251> someone look up the launcher command line for ubuntu install for mjelva
[02:52] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | CAsurfer
[02:52] <ubotu> CAsurfer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:53] <Zarephath> Badkitty: You still with us?
[02:53] <mjelva> could anyone tell me how to install from cd via commandline?
[02:53] <CAsurfer> jrib, note that it says that the module "vmnet" should be loaded, but I'm not able to modprobe it.
[02:53] <CientificoLoco> hello everybody I have java with automatix and it said me that it will be installed with plugins by firefox but I wanna see a site that needs java and it say that firefox need the plugin. what do I have to do?
[02:53] <LjL> !automatix
[02:53] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[02:53] <ianmacgregor> !automatix
[02:54] <Zarephath> mjelva: You have to mount the cdrom..then change directories to it..
[02:54] <ubuntu_newb> wich image should I download to run on my Intel Core 2 Duo System?
[02:54] <Badkitty> Sorry.. trying to find dependencies for gnome-network-manager
[02:54] <mjelva> Zarephath: okay. and then?
[02:54] <Thirsteh> There's a copy of the old pastebin.com over at www.n00bh4x.net/paste too.. I like it cause it's ..a bix box, and well has syntax highlighting for all languages
[02:54] <ubuntu_newb> I just got the i386 one wich I know isn't right...
[02:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell CientificoLoco about java
[02:54] <Dominus_Suus> could someone help me troubleshoot a problem with my USB mouse, please?
[02:54] <Zarephath> mjelva: Then type the command of the program you want to run...usually preceded by ./<command>
[02:55] <CAsurfer> jrib, the complete text is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27912/
[02:55] <ubuntu_newb> could someone please tell me the correct distro of Ubuntu to download for my Intel Core 2 Duo system?
[02:55] <bimberi> ubuntu_newb: i386
[02:56] <mjelva> Zarephath: i want to install ubuntu from this cd. what command would that be?
[02:56] <rubyscube> hmm.. has beryl been removed from the tree?... when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??
[02:56] <Zarephath> Badkitty: NP..check out the link to make sure your card is fully compatible with linux...after that it is simple to use NDISWRAPPER to install your windows drivers...if you want WPA for wireless you will need to install the wpa_supplicant package...
[02:56] <rubyscube> package even
[02:56] <DCGrendel> mjelva: the live cd? theres an icon on the desktop
[02:56] <Badkitty> Zarephath... I've seen this. i think mine is the WMP54G v.4 which is supported green
[02:56] <rus1> Hey, I'm trying to install a phpBB2 message board on my Ubuntu server, and when it tries to send an email (when registering a user) it says it failed sending an email. Looking on Google, it looks like I need to enable sendmail in PHP. Anyone know how to do this?
[02:56] <mjelva> DCGrendel: i have to do it via commandline
[02:56] <Zarephath> mjelva: Just reboot...make sure your bios has boot from cdrom enabled...
[02:56] <mjelva> i'm already booted from the CD, damn it
[02:56] <bimberi> ubuntu_newb: once you're installed you install the linux-686-smp package to take advantage of your processor
[02:56] <brentcool> hey guys, I just applied updates to my mom's computer and her firefox logo went from the globe to the OFFICIAL firefox logo...did Debain/Ubuntu finally agree to Mozilla's terms?
[02:56] <agent> does anyone know what exact command/program finds out when is the appropriate time to do a fsck on boot?
[02:57] <Zarephath> Badkitty: Then the rest is simple..just follow the instructions on the wiki step by step...
[02:57] <DCGrendel> mjelva: uhm, maybe you should have used the alternative cd?
[02:57] <mjelva> DCGrendel: there was only one available that i saw
[02:57] <Zarephath> DCGrendel: Enlighten me please..what is this cd?
[02:57] <Badkitty> I've tried.. Hold on.. Let me get the tools installed and then see where we are at
[02:58] <Zarephath> Badkitty do a lspci and it will tell you for sure what card linux sees...
[02:58] <mjelva> DCGrendel: ah, okay. there i see it.
[02:58] <jrib> CAsurfer: there are a few hits on the forums with your same problem, looking through them now
[02:58] <rancorus> Hi, i have ubuntu on my machine and i want to also install winxp, is there any documentation out there on how to do that ?
[02:58] <mjelva> so you're saying me i can't install from this cd? then what the hell is the point with it?
[02:58] <DCGrendel> mjelva, Zarephath: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/   3rd set listed
[02:58] <bimberi> !dualboot | rancorus
[02:58] <ubotu> rancorus: Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:58] <ianmacgregor> brentcool: I just checked updates, none, and I still have the globe icon in the menus
[02:58] <mjelva> DCGrendel: you can't install from commandline if you're using the first CD?
[02:58] <mjelva> what kind of retarded shit is that?
[02:59] <brentcool> ianmacgregor, then that's weird....It happened on an Edgy desktop
[02:59] <jrib> CAsurfer: can you check that you have vmware-player-kernel-modules for your current kernel?  It seems you need that for the vmnet module
[02:59] <Zarephath> rancorus: Download the free VMWare server and install windows..then run it in a virtual environment...you can't play hard core games however..
[02:59] <spdf> mjelva, you have to download the alternet iso
[02:59] <DCGrendel> mjelva you probably can, i just don't know how
[02:59] <Dominus_Suus> does anybody know how to fix a USB mouse that randomly cuts out and restarts?
[02:59] <XVampireX> !codecs
[02:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:59] <Zarephath> DCGrendel:Thanks
[02:59] <mjelva> fuck this
[02:59] <mjelva> "just works" my ass
[02:59] <DCGrendel> heh
[02:59] <mjelva> this is ridiculous
[02:59] <ianmacgregor> brentcool: Ahh, ok, this channel is for 6.06, which is what I have
[02:59] <DCGrendel> mjelva: for most people, it does.
[02:59] <mjelva> a linux distro that doesn't let you manage it from commandline
[02:59] <brentcool> ok whats the Edgy channel?
[02:59] <mjelva> that's fucking amazing
[02:59] <bimberi> !language
[02:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:59] <LjL> !language > mjelva
[02:59] <rancorus> Zarephath: Honestly I have tried installing vmware but i never managed to get it to work
[02:59] <Badkitty> its ubuntu+1
[02:59] <brentcool> Ok thanks Badkitty
[02:59] <Badkitty> sure np
[03:00] <mjelva> fuck this
[03:00] <DCGrendel> mjelva: atleast it boots on your machine, I've got to make a special cd for my system cause *noone* wants to put bootloaders for oldworld macs on cds anymore
[03:00] <ink251> another one bites the dust
[03:00] <spdf> Ridiculous
[03:00] <Zarephath> rancorus: All you have to do is create a symlink to the path and make it think it is where it is looking...(HINT)
[03:00] <ink251> patience is something you need a lot of working with linux
[03:00] <Dominus_Suus> mjelva has a point, though, it doesn't 'just work' it takes a real belief in it
[03:01] <DCGrendel> and the -- at the end of the kernel commandline for the installer makes the append entry too big for the bootloader i'm using
[03:01] <CAsurfer> jrib, it seems I already have that package.
[03:01] <rancorus> Zarephath: Everytime i try to install vmware-player in the terminal i get an error message
[03:01] <Badkitty> Zarephath...My card doesn't show up on the list...
[03:01] <CAsurfer> jrib, kind of odd that I don't seem to have the module
[03:01] <chuke> Hi
[03:01] <Badkitty> well....
[03:01] <jrib> CAsurfer: did you make sure the one for your current kernel is installed?
[03:01] <Alakazamz0r> im getting these for my girlfriend: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> that way when we're in bed... it'll be a linux turn on too
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> aahaha!
[03:02] <nu> =)
[03:02] <chuke> I think i deleted nautilus, how can I get it back?
[03:02] <Bladeless> need help for install, i cant do install from the live cd... it fails to load x
[03:02] <CAsurfer> jrib, how do I check that?
[03:02] <Badkitty> ok well it does
[03:02] <Dominus_Suus> alakazmz0r. just don't start confusing your girlfriend with your computer :P
[03:02] <DCGrendel> Alakazamz0r: be glad they arnt making those in childrens sizes, like cough Amber Combie cough
[03:02] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I have done but it does not work
[03:02] <jrib> chuke: why do you think you deleted nautilus?  How do you think you did this?  What does 'nautilus' in a terminal do?
[03:03] <Bladeless> so i try doing from text mode
[03:03] <jrib> CientificoLoco: is sun-java5-plugin installed?
[03:03] <Bladeless> but i just get more problems :S
[03:03] <rus1> Hey, I'm trying to install a phpBB2 message board on my Ubuntu server, and when it tries to send an email (when registering a user) it says it failed sending an email. Looking on Google, it looks like I need to enable sendmail in PHP. Anyone know how to do this?
[03:03] <CientificoLoco> jrib, yes it is
[03:03] <jrib> CientificoLoco: close all instances of firefox and open it again
[03:04] <nu> rus1
[03:04] <Dominus_Suus> can anyone help me with my problematic USB mouse?
[03:04] <Thirsteh> rus1, you might simply have to just start the sendmail service
[03:04] <nu> try joining a php channel
[03:04] <Dominus_Suus> (please)
[03:04] <Badkitty> Zarephath...Is there supposed to be a wmaster0 and a wlan0??
[03:04] <tich> can someone help me to get beryl to work?
[03:04] <rus1> nu, can you tell me how to start the sendmail service?
[03:04] <nu> does mail(to, subject, etc, etc) give you an SMTP error?
[03:04] <Treznor> Good evening, all.  Anyone have experience getting sounds to work in an IBM T42?  This is a fresh install, upgraded from Dapper.
[03:04] <jrib> CAsurfer: 'uname -r' should tell you the current kernel you are running, then see if vmware-player-kernel-modules-$(uname -r) is installed
[03:04] <jorik> whats a good secure ftp server ?
[03:04] <Thirsteh> jorik, proftpd or wuftpd
[03:04] <Thirsteh> I prefer proftpd
[03:05] <nu> rus1: i don't remember how. I'm sure google could find you an answer. if not, you could join a php channel on irc
[03:05] <ink251> vsftpd
[03:05] <Thirsteh> wuftpd is simpler tho
[03:05] <nu> it's not hard, i remember that
[03:05] <ink251> very secure ftp daemon
[03:05] <jorik> it needs to be easy to setup  (just give ppl access to their ~ with their passw)
[03:05] <Thirsteh> jorik, prolly what ink251 said if you want it to be "very secure" :D
[03:05] <ink251> heh
[03:06] <CAsurfer> jrib, I'll be back in a few minutes, I need to go help a friend
[03:06] <ink251> how much do SCSI tape drives go for these days?
[03:06] <jrib> CAsurfer: sure
[03:06] <WeaZeLb0y> I had windows installed on a pc my dvd drive worked fine, I installed Ubuntu to dual boot, the installation worked, but now after I boot into Ubuntu or Windows neither recognize my DVD drive...I think it has to do something with booting with GRUB...anyone have any ideas?
[03:06] <jorik> its used by kernel.org ... so i guess it'll do :o)
[03:06] <mighty_falcon> hmmm i just built kino 0.9.2 from source but when i launch kino now it still sais 0.8.0 which is the version i installed from apt-get
[03:07] <CientificoLoco> jrib, does not work I have installed java since I refresh my laptop
[03:07] <mighty_falcon> how do i get it to run 0.9.2? anyone?
[03:07] <jrib> mighty_falcon: how did you install the kino you built?
[03:07] <palomer> quick, someone remind me how to search for a file name in a directory tree
[03:07] <mighty_falcon> jrib: just ./configure , make, sudo make install
[03:07] <jrib> mighty_falcon: did kino get installed to /usr/local?
[03:07] <tich> has anyone had any luck with beryl?
[03:08] <Dominus_Suus> palomer: find -name <file name>
[03:08] <mighty_falcon> jrib: from the msgs printed it seems so yes
[03:08] <jrib> CientificoLoco: does /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exist?
[03:08] <thor> palomer: 'find / -name <filename>
[03:08] <rlared> hey all. . . i'm dual booting right now and i was wondering if there is a way to run the windows partition under ubuntu?
[03:08] <jrib> mighty_falcon: does /usr/local/bin/kino  work?
[03:08] <chuke> so yeah, how do I get nautilus back
[03:08] <rlared> i don't want to have to reinstall windows under vmware really
[03:08] <adiabatty> Hi, I've configured a new logfile that outputs to /var/log/foo.log, and it seems to be rotating files on a daily basis, and keeping only four archived logs (not what I'd expect given "weekly\nrotate 4 in /etc/logrotate.conf). Is there anyplace else that might have log rotation settings, other than /etc/logrotate.d/?
[03:08] <braino> tich: i had some luck with it, very nice
[03:08] <ink251> tich: its awesome
[03:08] <Treznor> Is there a channel for support for Edgy Eft?
[03:09] <mighty_falcon> jrib: it sure does, oke ty ! :)
[03:09] <ink251> ubuntu+
[03:09] <jrib> Treznor: #ubuntu+1
[03:09] <CientificoLoco> jrib, no it does not
[03:09] <ianmacgregor> Treznor: #ubuntu+1
[03:09] <Treznor> Thank you.
[03:09] <Heritz> Hello guys, do you have any source to download "Bluefish" on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[03:09] <tich> braino, ink251, did you just follow the wiki instructions to set it up?
[03:09] <ink251> hold on ill get what worked for me
[03:09] <ink251> i dont think it was wikipedia
[03:09] <nu> =)
[03:09] <ink251> wait, do you have an nvidia card?
[03:09] <Dominus_Suus> Heritz, are you talking about the .deb binary?
[03:09] <jrib> CientificoLoco: what is the output of:  dpkg -l sun-java5-plugin | grep ^ii
[03:09] <braino> I don't recall, but i have an nvidia card
[03:09] <ianmacgregor> !bluefish
[03:09] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[03:10] <Heritz> Yeah, or at least the source to download it using Synaptic
[03:10] <skelter> Can anyone give me some tips on how I'd go about recompiling my kernel for framebuffer support?
[03:10] <Heritz> I am not getting it on Synaptic, dunno why.
[03:10] <ianmacgregor> Heritz: It's in the universe repo
[03:10] <ink251> tich: what type of graphics card do you have
[03:10] <Dominus_Suus> !bluefish
[03:10] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1483 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[03:10] <ianmacgregor> Heritz: Enable universe
[03:10] <tich> ink251, nvidia
[03:10] <ink251> ok hold up
[03:11] <Dominus_Suus> anyone can help me with my USB mouse yet?
[03:11] <ink251> does the light flicker when it dies?
[03:13] <grndslm> anybody use stardict??
[03:13] <CientificoLoco> jrib, grep?? for what?
[03:14] <jrib> CientificoLoco: that exact command like I typed it after the :
[03:14] <ink251> tich: i tried for hours and the only guide that worked for me is http://dev.tufuncion.com/xgl-nvidia-ubuntu-apt-get
[03:14] <CientificoLoco> jrib, ii  sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-06-1     The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0
[03:15] <tich> ink251, okay i'll check that out.
[03:15] <chuke> Ok, so: My sound stopped working. Whenever i would do anything sound related ubuntu would tell me that certain Gstreamer or alsa plugins were missing. The people on the forums told me I should use the package manager to reinstall everything relating to those two, then restart. Nothing happened. They then told me 'completely remove' all Gstreamer and Alsa stuff then reinstall all of them. Now when I turn my computer on I get to t
[03:15] <jrib> CientificoLoco: 'locate libjavaplugin.so'
[03:15] <jbmigel> is that xgl stuff supposed to be in default sid er the new one?
[03:16] <CientificoLoco> jrib,  what do I have to do?
[03:16] <jbmigel> edgy
[03:16] <braino> tich: I may have used this site: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit
[03:16] <jrib> CientificoLoco: just type: locate libjavaplugin.so
[03:16] <jbmigel> !xgl
[03:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:16] <ink251> braino: have you tried any of the beryl themes or any modifications to the settings?
[03:17] <CientificoLoco> jrib, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:17] <CientificoLoco> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:17] <CientificoLoco> /usr/lib/mozilla-snapshot/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:17] <braino> i don't have it going anymore, but i did modify the themes through that emerald manager i believe
[03:18] <jrib> CientificoLoco: type: file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[03:18] <tich> braino, it seems to me that xfce's window manager takes over.
[03:18] <jmworx> Who should I talk to if I want to get the "speex" package removed from amd64 Dapper. It's always been broken despite a patch being posted 6 months ago. Considering nobody's interested in fixing the problem, I request the package to be removed (I'm the Speex maintained).
[03:19] <CAsurfer> jrib, I wasn't able to find the kernel for which my version of vmware was installed
[03:19] <braino> tich: takes over when? When you start it from gdm?
[03:19] <CientificoLoco> jrib, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so'
[03:19] <CientificoLoco> jrib, so..
[03:20] <jrib> CientificoLoco: http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml does this page say you have java?
[03:20] <atticstorm> Guys, have you seen in Gnome on laptops that there are often blue lines across the buttons?  I do not see it on the KDE side, on on the Gnome side, and will two differnt laptops.
[03:20] <chuke> well, i'll just try later then
[03:21] <tich> right after i choose beryl in the "select window manager" area. it even says it is using beryl but it is not. (unless it doesn't change anything0
[03:21] <JonBoon> what does this error mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27916/
[03:22] <braino> hmm, that may be what it uses as your fallback WM, but that wouldn't be the default (metacity is the default fallback wm)
[03:22] <sethk> Jonbo, not an error
[03:22] <CientificoLoco> jrib, it said that I jave installed java but firefox says that need the plugin
[03:22] <sethk> Jonbo, it means just what it says, that there is no reference key to compare this key against.
[03:22] <JonBoon> im trying to use easyubuntu to install codecs and i get that
[03:22] <sethk> JonBoon, it's not a problem
[03:22] <Heritz> OK, thanks guys I got the Bluefish installed with the Universe thing that you said. Thanks again.
[03:22] <Heritz> :D
[03:22] <jrib> CientificoLoco: you have java plugin working then, what page make firefox tell you this message?
[03:23] <atticstorm> Update on the blue lines on Gnome buttons issue, they disapear when the mouse pointer is waived over them - the focus touches them.
[03:23] <JonBoon> i dont have sound on sites like youtube or other java sites though
[03:23] <tich> braino, i don't have metacity installed because i use xfce (xubuntu)
[03:23] <sethk> JonBoon, it's a pseudo-security thing.  You must have seen it before, either "certificate can't be verified" or key can't be verified.
[03:23] <carrera594> lhey
[03:23] <La_PaRCa> !es > CientificoLoco
[03:23] <jrib> JonBoon: youtube uses flash, not java
[03:23] <sethk> JonBoon, that message is not related to your sound problem
[03:23] <JonBoon> i mean flash, sorry
[03:23] <Jonbo> JonBoon
[03:23] <Jonbo> Jonbo
[03:23] <Jonbo> :/
[03:23] <braino> tich: ya, the guides will probably be different for you then.. you might want to find one for xfce, but I have never tried that. sorry
[03:23] <carrera594> who are the Admins here i need a lot of help
[03:23] <JonBoon> haha
[03:23] <sethk> Jonbo, sorry, tab completion.
[03:24] <ikaruga> hi all. I'm to get my tv out to work. The bios screen shows up on the tv out, but once the x-server kicks in, I get a blank screen. How do i cycle thru the available screen resolutions for the tv?
[03:24] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I no idea
[03:24] <JonBoon> ok so how do i get flash sound?
[03:24] <CientificoLoco> I do not have idea
[03:24] <jrib> claviola: well does it tell you the message if you go to www.google.com for example?
[03:24] <jrib> ubotu: tell JonBoon about flash
[03:25] <MrProper_> JonBoon, did you fix your flash problem?
[03:25] <carrera594> does anyone have a WG121 Wireless Adpter working with a WEP enabled router
[03:25] <carrera594> ?
[03:25] <JonBoon> no, not yet
[03:25] <jrib> JonBoon: for your apt gpg key problem: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ .  Altough you may want to contact #easyubuntu about it
[03:25] <JonBoon> i dont know why it wont work, mp3s and the such play fine
[03:26] <ubuntu_newb> The i386 version of Ubuntu will work with my Intel Core 2 Duo system?
[03:26] <Dr_willis>     ubuntu_newb yes
[03:26] <cycom> ubuntu_newb: should...
[03:26] <MrProper_> JonBoon, ok change the following in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[03:26] <ubuntu_newb> ok, I thought that would be the x86 version though
[03:26] <Dr_willis> unless you are refering to an Mac. :P not sure about them
[03:26] <MrProper_> JonBoon, FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[03:26] <MrProper_> JonBoon: close firefox completely
[03:26] <rubyscube> when I try to do apt-get install beryl, the only thing I find is the pagacke "beryl-plugins" not the core... anyone??
[03:26] <JonBoon> im pretty new to linux, so you'll have to give me more detailed instructions :D
[03:26] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_newb,  where are you finding these different versions?
[03:26] <MrProper_> JonBoon, i had to restart to get it to work for me
[03:27] <Dr_willis> x86 is for the  i386 - or am i missing somthing here.. :)
[03:28] <ubuntu_newb> hmm, I think I'm just confuxed
[03:28] <ubuntu_newb> confused*
[03:28] <jrib> JonBoon: the restricted wiki page has detailed instructions
[03:29] <ubuntu_newb> Dr_willis: you are correct
[03:29] <ubuntu_newb> sorry, I was confused
[03:29] <Flannel> rubyscube: there are no beryl packages in ubuntu repositories, so... I dont know what you're trying to do
[03:29] <ubuntu_newb> Now, if only I could get rid of my windows system for good
[03:29] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_newb,  all it takes is one good virus and it gets rid of itself.
[03:30] <ubuntu_newb> lol
[03:30] <ubuntu_newb> true
[03:30] <Thirsteh> ubuntu_newb, if/when you do get it installed, be sure to upgrade to the linux-686-SMP kernel, since it takes advantage of some of the newer CPU features, and is based on the 686 architecture, rather than 386
[03:30] <ubuntu_newb> That's why I want to get rid of it
[03:30] <Flannel> Thirsteh: -SMP kernels don't exist as of dapper, it's in all kernels on arches that support it
[03:30] <rubyscube> Flannel: aha! that explains it :P .. I read the how-to in the forums, and they gave the impression that an apt-get install beryl should actually yield some results. If you have the time, could you tell me my alternatives? Just install from source??
[03:30] <ubuntu_newb> I have a desktop (800mhz AMD Duron) running suse linux 10.1 and it never needs to be rebooted
[03:30] <Thirsteh> Flannel, I see, I didn't know that. Thank you :)
[03:30] <ubuntu_newb> it's been running for over 1 month now
[03:31] <Badkitty> Question. Im trying to install some dependencies for network-manager-gnome.. and one is installing but saying it is not installed... in synaptic it shows it but it doesn't have the logo next to it.. what doesd this mean?
[03:31] <ubuntu_newb> I've already had to reinstall my windows system since the time I powered on the suse system lol
[03:31] <Flannel> rubyscube: I have no idea.  If there's a howto, they probably mention which repositories they have, or whatever.  You could try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl, they might be able to better address the issue
[03:31] <Flannel> Badkitty: the logo is stuff supported fully by ubuntu (in main) if it doesn't, it's either in universe, or multiverse
[03:32] <gop_> hi
[03:32] <gop_> I can't seem to see why I get grub erro 17
[03:32] <jmworx> Who should I talk to if I want to get the "speex" package removed from amd64 Dapper? It's always been broken despite a patch being posted 6 months ago. Considering nobody's interested in fixing the problem, I request the package to be removed (I'm the Speex maintained).
[03:32] <Badkitty> So it doesn't mean it shouldn't work just because there is not a logo?
[03:32] <rubyscube> Flannel: yep, as I said.. I have added the beerorkid repository, and nothing there either.. and that's supposed to be the official beryl source. The #beryl channel is totally dead.. I'll try #ubuntu-xgl. Thanks man :)
[03:33] <claviola> jrib: I'm sorry?
[03:33] <jrib> claviola: sorry, name completion error
[03:33] <jmworx> hi adiabatty
[03:33] <Flannel> Badkitty: nope.  No logo doesn't mean broken, just not fully supported (supported by the community, instead of by canonical)
[03:33] <jmworx> adiabatty: can you do anything for me here?
[03:33] <mog> hiya how do i force my wireless nic to come up as another device , from eth2 to wlan0 for example
[03:33] <Flannel> rubyscube: er... beerorkid is the automatix repository, you're looking for trouble if you're using automatix.
[03:33] <adiabatty> jmworx: Not likely; I just dropped in to ask a question...
[03:34] <jmworx> Oh, OK.
[03:34] <mog> i set it in modprobe.d/aliases
[03:34] <Badkitty> Ok, so the package I am trying to install is libgnutsls12 which requires libtas1-2... bu when i install it, libgnutsls12 still asks for it
[03:34] <gop_> so what a good way of fixing grub error 17
[03:34] <Alakazamz0r> are Xeon chips 64bit?
[03:34] <Flannel> jmworx: speex is in universe, you should talk to the individual package maintainer, he may not know the patch exists, or whatnot.  Alternatively, you can ask the MOTU.
[03:35] <dfcarney> some xeon processors are
[03:35] <jmworx> Flannel: Any link?
[03:35] <utnubu> anyone know where i could find drivers for a dell photo printer 720 on ubuntu
[03:35] <dfcarney> just google for it
[03:35] <utnubu> i have been
[03:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell utnubu about printing
[03:35] <utnubu> linuxprinting.org didnt have any
[03:36] <Flannel> jmworx: maintainer is: Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>  so, email them, I suppose.
[03:36] <jrib> utnubu: try similar models
[03:36] <utnubu> thanks
[03:36] <mrbond82> alakazamor - the new ones are
[03:36] <Dr_willis> utnubu,  find out who really makes that printer.. dell most likely is just sticking their name on it.
[03:36] <normeo> Ekushey: just downloading the ubuntu desktop cd for what feels like the 20th time
[03:36] <normeo> hey**
[03:36] <cogitatus> hay. what's the easiest way to run ubuntu with no x?
[03:36] <jrib> utnubu: dells are like lexmarks so try those too
[03:36] <krazykit> afaik, dell rebrands lexmark printers a lot
[03:36] <jmworx> Flannel: I don't get it. How is the ubuntu package maintained by Debian people?
[03:36] <ink251> install debian
[03:36] <clearzen> Can anyone tell me how I would set up Cron jobs?
[03:36] <cogitatus> should i just boot to failsafe?
[03:37] <jbmigel_> man cron
[03:37] <jrib> !cron | clearzen
[03:37] <ubotu> clearzen: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[03:37] <mrbond82> can anyone tell me how to fix my xgl compiz so that the windows have borders and title bars on them??
[03:37] <jmworx> Flannel: The bug is actually fixed in the Debian universe (and even Edgy) BTW. It's Dapper that's broken.
[03:37] <mog> anybody?
[03:37] <Flannel> jmworx: because ubuntu is based on debian, a lot of packages are identical (or almost) between the two.  If it's just in dapper, and fixed in edgy...
[03:37] <ink251> mrbond, change the theme
[03:37] <ink251> some themes dont have borders
[03:37] <Flannel> jmworx: I don'tknow, ask the MOTU about getting the fix put into dapper, since it's a LTS, they should do it.
[03:37] <jmworx> Flannel: Link for MOTU?
[03:37] <Flannel> jmworx: You'd have to ask them for details, Im not really sure how you'd go about it
[03:38] <normeo> anyone have some good knowledge of the 6.06 ubuntu desktop cd and why it won't launch the install?
[03:38] <docmur> anyone here use or know the program oregano
[03:38] <Flannel> jmworx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[03:38] <CAsurfer> jrib, I got it to work. It was just a matter of getting vmware modules that were the same version of my kernel. Thanks for the tip.
[03:38] <Flannel> mrbond82: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:38] <jrib> CAsurfer: great
[03:39] <dfcarney> mog: sorry, i don't know.  but i'm curious -- why do you want to change the interface name?
[03:39] <jmworx> Flannel: Thanks
[03:40] <jorik> whats a good console torrent client ?
[03:40] <mog> it just bugs me, esp as i thought changing the aliases did this
[03:40] <ink251> bittorrent
[03:40] <ink251> just dont use the gnome frontend
[03:41] <jorik> oh ok
[03:41] <tymoly> how about azureus?
[03:41] <mrbond82> flannel - no one available on that channel :(
[03:41] <nu> Question: My desktop shows the SDA1 harddrive(windows). How do i get rid of it? (without unmounting)
[03:41] <Flannel> mrbond82: try #xgl as well
[03:43] <jrib> nu: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible in gconf-editor
[03:46] <mrbond82> has anyone got xgl and compiz working ?
[03:47] <_ian_> what do i need to do so thaty ubuntu saves my opened programs when i shutdown... just like kubuntu
[03:48] <ink251> ian, i dont know but i would be interested in that too
[03:48] <_ian_> hmmm thnx
[03:48] <jrib> _ian_: system > preferences > sessions
[03:49] <_ian_> anyway will support for 5.10 suddenly be gone.... because i am having problems with 6.06.... im using 5.10 now i tried installing both kubuntu and ubutu 6.06 but my ethernet card cant be detected...
[03:49] <Flannel> _ian_: 5.10 is supported for 18 months
[03:49] <nu> jrib:  thanks alot. let me try. (sorry for the delayed answer, was googling too)
[03:50] <jbmigel_> freebsd is awesome im a fan too
[03:51] <nu> Also, how do i take a screenshot with console?
[03:52] <ablyss> nu, use the import command
[03:53] <nu> how?
[03:53] <jbmigel_> nu you cant get what you need with output redirection?
[03:53] <xTERMiNATOR> Hi friends
[03:53] <nu> jbmigel_: no idea. i haven't tried anything.
[03:53] <PumpkinPie> Im new to ubuntu.. is there apt-get? and by in large its like debian?
[03:54] <nu> i don't know how to use the import method
[03:54] <jrib> PumpkinPie: yes, yes
[03:54] <Flannel> PumpkinPie: yes, ubuntu uses apt-get
[03:54] <xTERMiNATOR> I too a new to Ubuntu
[03:54] <ablyss> nu, like this --> import -window root screenshot.jpg
[03:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell PumpkinPie about repos
[03:54] <Flannel> PumpkinPie: but, If youre using the desktop, Synaptic is the GUI version
[03:54] <ablyss> may have to install import first though
[03:54] <jbmigel_> nu well if you run your command with a > and a filename after it, all the output will goto that file eg "mycommand > saveme"
[03:55] <xTERMiNATOR> can anyone help me?
[03:55] <jrib> !helpme
[03:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:55] <xTERMiNATOR> ok sorry
[03:55] <nu> ablyss: it said "import: command not found"
[03:55] <nu> jbmigel_: does that go for all programs too?
[03:55] <jrib> nu: install imagemagick
[03:55] <ablyss> nu, enable universe rep in synaptic and find it
[03:56] <ablyss> or what jrib said
[03:56] <jbmigel_> nu anything you run at command line you can save the output to file... then open it with your favorite editor
[03:56] <nu> either one will do?
[03:56] <nu> jbmigel_: thanks.
[03:56] <gop_> hey
[03:56] <ablyss> import is part of imagemagick shell commands
[03:56] <MorningWood> hello
[03:56] <gop_> anay here know how to fix grub error 17
[03:56] <jbmigel_> nu np
[03:57] <gop_> the ubuntu help page has no information
[03:57] <Badkitty> Im about to throwmy wireless card into the trash?!!? Can anyone recommend a wireless lan card that *WORKS* with edgy?
[03:57] <Flannel> gop_: depends on what you did to break it ;)  reinstalling grub will always fix it though
[03:57] <Flannel> Badkitty: #ubuntu+1 for edgy people
[03:57] <gop_> I am booted on th elive cd
[03:57] <gop_> the
[03:57] <MorningWood> my intel 2200 works perfectly
[03:57] <gop_> flannel I just installed ubuntu some hours ago
[03:57] <gop_> rebooted with out the cd
[03:57] <gop_> and got error 17
[03:57] <xTERMiNATOR> I wanted to move a folder to /usr/lib
[03:57] <gop_> then I booted back again with my cd
[03:57] <xTERMiNATOR> but it's not allowing me
[03:57] <Flannel> gop_: ah, sounds like grub didn't get installed correctly.
[03:58] <Flannel> !tell gop_ about grub
[03:58] <gop_> and i checked groot=(hd2,2)
[03:58] <Flannel> xTERMiNATOR: use sudo to copy it
[03:58] <MorningWood> does anyone here have ubuntu running on a gateway laptop?
[03:58] <xTERMiNATOR> ok will try
[03:58] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: what are you trying to do exactly?  It sounds like there may be a better option
[03:59] <xTERMiNATOR> I am trying to install some plugins for Eclipse IDE
[03:59] <MorningWood> or that might be able to help me with the function key volume/brightness status display?
[03:59] <xTERMiNATOR> so I have a folder named 'eclipse' on my desktop
[03:59] <gop_> flannel groot=(hd2,2)
[03:59] <tnnc> what is the best way to add hardware to ubuntu after install is done
[03:59] <jbmigel_> tnnc what sort of hardware?
[03:59] <xTERMiNATOR> I want to copy the contents of that to /usr/lib/eclipse
[04:00] <tnnc> sound card and video card
[04:00] <noxxle> after installing firestarter firewall i could not launch a program called news rover with Wine. I tried uninstalling firestarter but it still doesnt launch. Does firestarter leave some configurations behind??
[04:01] <jbmigel_> tnnc for video you will have to update your xorg.conf file telling it what new vid driver to use
[04:01] <ablyss> noxxle, instead of removing firestarter, just disable it
[04:01] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: I don't use eclipse, but can't you use a directory in HOME like ~/.eclipse maybe?  Or at least use /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib, that's reserved for the package manager
[04:01] <_ian_> if i create a user and tick on admin prvileges that new user can also access sudo right/
[04:01] <jbmigel_> tnnc im not sure about sound, maybe a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base will do it
[04:01] <Flannel> _ian_: right
[04:02] <xTERMiNATOR> jrib, shall I pm you?
[04:02] <tnnc> jbmigel thanks
[04:02] <Flannel> gop_: where is your /boot partition?
[04:02] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: it's better to just talk here, that way everyone can help
[04:02] <xTERMiNATOR> ok :)
[04:02] <xTERMiNATOR> I actually don't know how to install the plugins
[04:02] <xTERMiNATOR> so, I searched for the eclipse folder and found it in /usr/lib
[04:03] <noxxle> ablyss how do i disable it
[04:03] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: well first did you check if the plugins were in the repositories?
[04:03] <xTERMiNATOR> so tried copying
[04:03] <noxxle> also is avahi daemon supposed to be on by default
[04:03] <xTERMiNATOR> no
[04:03] <xTERMiNATOR> how to check?
[04:03] <ablyss> noxxle, in the firestarter panel.. there's a big on/off button
[04:03] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: have you enabled universe?
[04:03] <xTERMiNATOR> sorry to ask all these, I am real new into Ubuntu :(
[04:03] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Is a partition for LVM extended or primary?
[04:03] <xTERMiNATOR> yes
[04:03] <noxxle> ablyss i tried that, didnt work
[04:03] <noxxle> its still blocking ports
[04:04] <noxxle> i uninstalled clamav and that also is still listed as a startup item
[04:04] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: np, that's what this channel is for.  Just search for 'eclipse plug' in synaptic.  That turns up a few hits here
[04:04] <noxxle> stupid automatix
[04:04] <ablyss> noxxle, firestarter doesn't block ports by default.. did you tell it to block ports?
[04:04] <xTERMiNATOR> ok
[04:04] <xTERMiNATOR> I will try
[04:04] <knapper> stupid manualmatix
[04:04] <Chm0d> hopefully i will be able to see what I am writing.  I tried installing compiz which totally fubared everything up and most of the times any writiing is like gone.  is there a roll back feature for ubuntu or anything of the sort?
[04:05] <noxxle> no i didnt
[04:05] <nu> ubuntu doesn't support fluxbox, does it?
[04:05] <xTERMiNATOR> likewise, how do you install a .bin file?
[04:05] <noxxle> is the avahi daemon safe?
[04:05] <xTERMiNATOR> I have downloaded such a file for real player
[04:05] <ablyss> noxxle, try to telnet to your news group, like telnet <IP> <port> and see what happens
[04:06] <noxxle> dunno their ip, but i can use it in windows xp
[04:06] <xTERMiNATOR> thank you very much jrib :)
[04:06] <xTERMiNATOR> I got the exact plugin there
[04:06] <Flannel> nu: fluxbox is in universe
[04:06] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: usually you will want to use the repositories instead since it will help you manage your software from a central location (and you are pretty sure the package won't break things).  realplayer is actually available in the repositories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[04:06] <noxxle> what is the point of firestarter anyway? i thought linux didnt need firewall
[04:06] <ablyss> noxxle, maybe reinstall firestarter and enable the ports
[04:06] <Chm0d> anyone?
[04:07] <Flannel> noxxle: firestarter is just a frontend to iptables, the firewall built into linux
[04:07] <xTERMiNATOR> so I have to just add:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods to the repository list
[04:07] <xTERMiNATOR> right?
[04:07] <gop_> those insturction say nothing about error 17
[04:07] <jbmigel_> noxxle why would linux not need a firewall?
[04:07] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: no, you have to click on that link and read it :)
[04:07] <xTERMiNATOR> ok thank you very much for spending your valuable time for me :)
[04:07] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: np
[04:07] <gop_> I went to the link flannel it gives vague idea
[04:08] <Bladeless> ive installed ubuntu from text mode but x wont load for some reason
[04:08] <Bladeless> how do i fix this?
[04:08] <xTERMiNATOR> by the way, how do you boot directly to text mode?
[04:08] <xTERMiNATOR> rather than the GUI?
[04:08] <Flannel> gop_: right, like I said, reinstalling WILL fix it regardless.  What partition is /boot on?
[04:08] <jbmigel_> Bladeless have your installed gnome-desktop or something
[04:08] <Bladeless> yeah
[04:08] <Bladeless> x doesnt load it just generates errors
[04:08] <gop_> flannel how does one go by reinstalling it
[04:09] <jrib> Bladeless: maybe someone can help if you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:09] <gop_> do I go in to the grub shell
[04:09] <jbmigel_> Bladeless like what kind of errors
[04:09] <Flannel> gop_: that first page talks about reinstalling it (the reinstalling after windows one)
[04:09] <xTERMiNATOR>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods led me to a page without contents
[04:10] <jbmigel_> Bladeless dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:10] <gop_> what the url to that page
[04:10] <Flannel> !tell gop_ about grub
[04:10] <jrib> xTERMiNATOR: it's loading here, try refresh?
[04:11] <xTERMiNATOR> ok
[04:11] <Flannel> xTERMiNATOR: it redirects you to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[04:11] <Bladeless> dpkg?
[04:11] <xTERMiNATOR> yes
[04:11] <xTERMiNATOR> got it now
[04:11] <jbmigel_> Bladeless ya man it will fix your xorg settings
[04:11] <xTERMiNATOR> how to boot into text mode?
[04:11] <Bladeless> the error is no screens found, and just displays foreign characters
[04:11] <xTERMiNATOR> without entering the GUI?
[04:11] <xarq> with the latest update to dapper, I am unable to mount my SD card which is normally at /dev/sda1... any ideas which /dev it has moved to?
[04:11] <jbmigel_> Bladeless dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <jbmigel_> Bladeless sorry its like this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:13] <capiCrimm> I want to open xmms with crontab, but I get an error saying unable to open the display?
[04:13] <jsherlock> just installed amarok 1.4.3 and mp3's will only play when amarok is started with root, anyone know what permissions i should check on?
[04:13] <james296> how can I get the wallpaper and spplash screen that was originally for version 6.10?
[04:13] <capiCrimm> I can't think of a workaround... :\
[04:13] <baxter_kylie> LVM help needed... anyone?
[04:14] <ablyss> capiCrimm, maybe try xmms-shell
[04:14] <noex> Anyone have a second for a quick question? If I am trying to write a audio cd from mp3s, on Serpentine, which GStreamer plugin do I need?
[04:14] <ksa> ok my question is how to install apache2 when i try to install it i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6... how do i install this
[04:14] <rbil> jsherlock ... do a /join #amarok    ... and talk to the guys in Amarok
[04:15] <capiCrimm> nvm
[04:15] <MorningWood> hello, I was wondering if someone could help me with that might be able to help me with the function key volume/brightness status display on my laptop?
[04:15] <libervisco> so, would you guys say it's now quite safe to upgrade to edgy RC?
[04:15] <xTERMiNATOR> not sure ksa, but try sudo apt-get install libc6
[04:15] <jsherlock> capiCrimm: xport DISPLAY=:0.0 && /usr/bin/xmms
[04:15] <libervisco> any unexpected bugs?
[04:15] <MorningWood>  the brightness is changed via function key and whenever it is changed, in windows it popped up a little blue status window alerting the user of how bright the lcd is. In ubuntu it pops up but is all distorted. It's a gateway m360 laptop.
[04:15] <jsherlock> capiCrimm, *export
[04:15] <jsherlock> rbil, thanks
[04:16] <ksa> ok my question is how to install apache2 when i try to install it i get Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6... how do i install this
[04:16] <Flannel> libervisco: #ubuntu+1
[04:16] <xTERMiNATOR> not sure ksa, but try sudo apt-get install libc6
[04:16] <Clinton__> ksa: make sure you've done upgrade and dist-upgrade first
[04:16] <libervisco> ok thx Flannel
[04:17] <ksa> Clinton__: whats dist-upgrade
[04:17] <Bladeless> i tried your command still same error generated :S
[04:18] <some_guy> who here is good with beryl
[04:18] <Bladeless> im using an ati x700
[04:18] <james296> so how can I get the Edgy splash screen and wallpaper?
[04:18] <james296> FOR Edgy?
[04:18] <Flannel> james296: they should be there.  ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:18] <xarq> james296: might be on gnome-look.org
[04:18] <ksa> xTERMiNATOR: i tryed that and did not work
[04:18] <ksa> Clinton__: whats dist-upgrade
[04:19] <xTERMiNATOR> sorry :(
[04:19] <xarq> ksa: it's a command for apt-get
[04:19] <ksa> itso k
[04:19] <james296> they are not they were removed
[04:19] <Flannel> james296: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:19] <ksa> how do i make sure i have done dist-upgrade first
[04:20] <brasko> where is a good pastebin?
[04:20] <jbmigel_> ksa you should really know if you did that
[04:20] <Joetheodd> ksa: type sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade in a terminal
[04:20] <ksa> ok
[04:20] <ksa> ty
[04:20] <nu> jbmigel_: more questions about screenshots for you
[04:20] <nu> how do i make it so it takes the screenshot in a given # of seconds
[04:21] <ksa> jbmigel_:  i go E: Sense dist is not understood, try true or false.
[04:21] <rbil> nu install KSnapshot ... very easy to use and you can time snapshots
[04:21] <some_guy> anyone good with beryl? (ati mobility radeon 9200)
[04:21] <agent> what function in python is used to execute (and get the results of) a program?
[04:21] <nu> rbil: thanks. but can it be done with import also?
[04:22] <nu> agent
[04:22] <nu> you just type
[04:22] <rbil> nu, what's import?
[04:22] <nu> python filename.py
[04:22] <brasko> anyone seen this error before?
[04:22] <brasko> http://rafb.net/paste/results/TusEmq42.html
[04:22] <Flannel> some_guy: ask in #beryl
[04:22] <brasko> happens with nxclient to xubuntu
[04:22] <gop_> is it a problem if / and /boot are in the same partion
[04:22] <some_guy> ok
[04:22] <Flannel> gop_: no
[04:22] <jrib> agent: see the reference for popen (#pyhton is better for these questions)
[04:22] <nu> rbil: import is what i use to take screenshots. (import -window root name.jpg)
[04:22] <some_guy> thanx
[04:22] <jbmigel_> gop_ but if one gets corrupted it will take the other with it not being seperate
[04:22] <agent> nu: i mean, in a python script :) function as in open(), etc.
[04:23] <agent> jrib: thank you
[04:23] <rbil> nu, well you're doing it in the cli then.
[04:23] <gop_> I am so confused at this stage
[04:23] <rbil> nu, using imagemagick?
[04:23] <Flannel> gop_: what partition is /boot on
[04:23] <ksa> is there a way to install all the web server stuff on to the desktop version
[04:23] <gop_> hdd3
[04:23] <nu> rbil:  yes
[04:23] <rbil> ksa, of course
[04:23] <gop_> flannel /dev/hdd3
[04:23] <Flannel> gop_: that's hd(3,2) not (2,2)
[04:24] <rbil> nu, do you want to use the cli to capture screen shots?
[04:24] <gop_> oh
[04:24] <ksa> rbil how do i do it
[04:24] <nu> rbil: yes
[04:24] <gop_> so go back to menu
[04:24] <rbil> nu, in a full screen terminal? no idea, sorry. I thought you wanted to capture from desktop
[04:25] <JavaDeveloper> Hi, any DVD burning software that burns MDS image?
[04:25] <Joetheodd> Try doing help export
[04:25] <gop_> k I did hd(3,2)
[04:25] <nu> rbil: np. thanks
[04:25] <gop_> flannel thanks
[04:25] <gop_> that should be it right
[04:25] <Joetheodd> You may have to install an imagemagic package, I don't recall it's name but you can search on packages.google.com, I think.
[04:25] <Flannel> gop_: yeah
[04:25] <gop_> I bbl
[04:25] <gop_> flannel thanks
[04:25] <gop_> so know umount /dev/hdd3
[04:25] <gop_> and reboot
[04:26] <bruenig> packages.google.com?
[04:26] <cafuego> JavaDeveloper: alcohol for windows
[04:26] <ksa> how do i install all the programs form the server version to the desk top version easy
[04:26] <noex> Anyone know why Serpentine might not allow me to burn a audio cd from mp3's? I downloaded the GStreamer MAD plugin. Any ideas?
[04:26] <Flannel> gop_: er... no?  just change in the grub menu
[04:26] <JavaDeveloper> cafuego: I guess I am asking for Linux
[04:26] <jbmigel_> bruenig packages.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <gop_> yes I did that
[04:26] <snook353> what is the best compression/archive format?
[04:26] <gop_> I changed from 2,2 and pressed save
[04:26] <Flannel> gop_: right, that's it.
[04:26] <gop_> I did gkesudo /boot/menu.lst or what ever
[04:26] <cafuego> snook353: Depends on your data; bzip2 is pretty good.
[04:26] <gop_> flannel so shoudl I reboot from the live cd
[04:26] <snook353> ok, thanks cafuego
[04:27] <cafuego> JavaDeveloper: none that I know of
[04:27] <gop_>  brb
[04:27] <ksa> whats the best and fastest way install all the programs form the server version to the desk top version
[04:27] <JavaDeveloper> cafuego: you must be joking....no software burns MDS image in linux?  but anyway, if that is the case, thanks for you information though,.
[04:27] <jbmigel_> ksa sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[04:28] <ksa> u have desk top
[04:28] <JavaDeveloper> cafuego: no offense, but just sounds weird to me....hehehe...
[04:29] <noex> Anyone able to help fill me in?
[04:29] <Flannel> ksa: the server version doesn't have any special software
[04:29] <cafuego> JavaDeveloper: Well, afaik it's a file format spectific to windoze apps... even more specifixally designed to handle copy protection ..  this is just not an issue on Linux... so there may not be a large need.
[04:30] <ksa> flannel im just a noob and i have no idea what i need
[04:30] <krazykit> JavaDeveloper: i think there's an mds2iso somewhere
[04:30] <JavaDeveloper> cafuego: ic....
[04:30] <ksa> i tryed putting a desk top on the server one and i cant
[04:30] <ksa> not desk top
[04:30] <Flannel> ksa: there's nothing preventing you from doing so
[04:30] <JavaDeveloper> krazykit: how about if I have the ISO for DVD? what software is available in linux?
[04:30] <ksa> a GUI
[04:30] <cafuego> JavaDeveloper: Note: I may bve completely wrong :-)
[04:30] <ksa> i just dont know how
[04:30] <krazykit> JavaDeveloper: if you have the iso, you can burn it with whatever.  i like k3b
[04:30] <ksa> lol
[04:31] <bruenig> JavaDeveloper, to burn an iso, you can just write click on it and select write to disc, nautilus will burn it
[04:31] <Flannel> ksa: we've told you: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and then you'll want to change the kernel.  If you have the desktop CD already, just reinstall, it'll be eaiser
[04:31] <JavaDeveloper> bruenig: sounds good...thank you guys...
[04:31] <ksa> im running desktop
[04:31] <jbmigel_> ksa just start with the desktop cd then everything will be there for you. no need to start as server install unless your ready
[04:32] <Flannel> ksa: then, you're done.  What other software do you want?
[04:32] <ksa> i just dont know how to install all the programs that server has
[04:32] <Flannel> ksa: "server" has no special programs.  What are you looking for?
[04:32] <ksa> its not like windows were i can ezley find the files
[04:32] <ksa> apache2
[04:32] <ksa> for one
[04:32] <rbil> ksa, what does the server have? you talking about LAMP?
[04:32] <Flannel> !tell ksa about lamp
[04:32] <bruenig> ksa, the desktop has everything the server has and then more unless you are looking for LAMP
[04:33] <ksa> ya
[04:33] <jbmigel_> !lamp
[04:33] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:33] <Flannel> ksa: that page tells you how to install the LAMP thing (or you can just take apaches instructions in that)
[04:33] <ksa> ok ill try agan
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> ksa, there's also the UbuntuCenter
[04:33] <interloper> hello everyone can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?
[04:33] <jbmigel_> !nvidia
[04:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:33] <interloper> i do have it installed
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> which is not really ubuntu, but does do LAMP and adds some stuff like a ampache tunes server
[04:34] <jbmigel_> interloper well you're done! w00t
[04:34] <interloper> im having some performance issues
[04:34] <braino>  ksa: have you ran synaptic? there you will find alot of different things to install (including apache)
[04:34] <jbmigel_> interloper are you sure you have direct rendering on ? "glxinfo | grep direct" will tell you
[04:34] <ksa> braino: no
[04:35] <ksa> whats synaptic
[04:35] <interloper> yes i do jbmigel_
[04:35] <bruenig> !synaptic | ksa
[04:35] <ubotu> ksa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:35] <braino> type in sudo synaptic
[04:35] <bruenig> gksudo synaptic
[04:35] <jbmigel_> interloper well what sort of performance issues are you having then
[04:36] <Aven_> hey
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> jbmigel_, interloper should check that the module nvidia is loaded... lsmod | grep nvidia
[04:36] <bruenig> !hi
[04:36] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:36] <rbil> bruenig, what's the benefit of using gksudo over plain sudo?
[04:36] <interloper> i have a dual core 2.8 with 6600gt 10000rpm raptor and a gig of ddr3 ram and getting 60fps in jedi outcast with cedega 5.0
[04:36] <Aven_> I accidently played two videos at a time, and so the sound stopped
[04:37] <Aven_> I've restarted my computer, etc. but how can i have my computer detect the sound again?
[04:37] <Jaxon> He should also check to see that his xorg.conf is using the nvidia module and not the nv module
[04:37] <interloper> nvidia               4547540  12
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:37] <interloper> i2c_core               21904  3 i2c_acpi_ec,i2c_viapro,nvidia
[04:37] <jbmigel_> interloper I wasnt aware ddr3 ram was available yet
[04:37] <interloper> agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,via_agp
[04:37] <bruenig> using sudo for graphical apps can result in having .ICEauthority owned by root making it impossible to login
[04:37] <Vuen> question, is there a gtk alternative to frostwire?
[04:37] <Vuen> i
[04:37] <Vuen> i'm sick of java applications
[04:38] <Aven_> hey, i need help
[04:38] <interloper> i could be mistaken could be ddr2
[04:38] <Aven_> I accidently played two videos at a time, and so the sound stopped
[04:38] <interloper> sry
[04:38] <Aven_> I've restarted my computer, etc. but how can i have my computer detect the sound again?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> Vuen, lol me too
[04:38] <jrib> Vuen: gtk-gnutella
[04:38] <rbil> bruenig, never had a prob, but I'll take your word for it. thanks
[04:38] <Samus_Aran> what determines how many "forks" are available ?  I have max user processes at 200 and get fork resource unavailable, then I increase it to 500 and still get the message.  I have 428 MiB RAM free (+/- cache), and 5557 MiB swap free, so it isn't that
[04:38] <mnepton> Vuen: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[04:38] <Jaxon> interloper: so, what is the problem with performance?
[04:38] <Vuen> mmm, thanks
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, try alsamixer in the console
[04:38] <jbmigel_> interloper 60fps is very good rate, much faster than your eye can see... who cares??
[04:38] <bruenig> rbil, not often does it happen but sometimes
[04:38] <Samus_Aran> it is screwing up almost all programs I am running
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> use cursor keys to navigate and Esc when done
[04:38] <MorningWood> do intel graphics drivers come installed by default on ubuntu?
[04:38] <ksa> wow that synaptic thing was ez
[04:38] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: ah, then what? :P
[04:38] <ksa> thak u all
[04:38] <bruenig> I generally just go with gksudo and it has never happened to me but I've read the horror stories
[04:39] <Vuen> also, what torrent software do you suggest for kubuntu? i like something with loads of features; i'm switching from azureus
[04:39] <Vuen> should i use ktorrent?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, look for  an MM
[04:39] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: I can increase volumes, yeah
[04:39] <interloper> i used to run this game with the same fps with a ti4400 and 1.7ghz machine
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:39] <Jaxon> Vuen: I'd reccommend ktorrent.
[04:39] <braino> ya, i forgot. I use kde, so its kdesu for me
[04:39] <Aven_> MM as in Master M?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> MM means muted
[04:39] <Vuen> Jaxon: mmm, thanks
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> so pressing M would unmute
[04:39] <bruenig> Vuen, utorrent through wine is also fun if you don't mind the extra work to get it running
[04:39] <mnepton> Vuen: try bittornado-gui, too. or, if you have access to a LAMP installation, Torrentflux.
[04:39] <interloper> i've seen people get well over a hundred jbmigel_
[04:40] <Vuen> jrib, mnepton, i suppose i should have asked is there a qt gnutella client?
[04:40] <Vuen> because i use kde
[04:40] <interloper> plus when i drag the the terminal window its kinda choppy jbmigel_
[04:40] <theBishop> ndiswrapper stopped working in Edgy...
[04:40] <jrib> Vuen: well you can still use gtk apps, I don't know of any qt ones
[04:40] <jbmigel_> interloper im sure it's possible, but with different driver versions, different cedega, different libc, also you have smp kernel, lots different... be happy it is playable
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> interloper, you might need to check the settings in xorg.conf for glx, etc..
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> just my guess
[04:40] <dwango> theBishop, Just installed Edgy last night and it works.
[04:40] <MorningWood> would intel graphics drivers come installed by default on ubuntu?
[04:41] <Jaxon> interloper: you can't see any difference over 60 fps, I'd try running something a bit more hardware intensive and seeing if you don't get max FPS from that as well.
[04:41] <theBishop> dwango, what card you have?
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> and your hard drive optimization with hdparm
[04:41] <dwango> Broadcom
[04:41] <bruenig> MorningWood, likely
[04:41] <Jaxon> MorningWood: what problems are you having?
[04:41] <theBishop> dwango, specifically
[04:41] <krazykit> bruenig: er, utorrent through wine requires no extra work.
[04:41] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: still doesn't work :\
[04:41] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: none are mute
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, ok
[04:41] <interloper> guys when i go into free for all map im down to 30fps
[04:41] <Vuen> jrib: mmm, that sucks. oh well. i'm trying to switch over to entirely qt apps (except for firefox). i can't stand most gtk widgets, like the godawful file picker dialog
[04:41] <dwango> bcm4318
[04:41] <bruenig> krazykit, it requires more than, apt-get install (bittorrent client)
[04:41] <MorningWood> having problems with my function key and the brightness monitor that is on gateway laptops
[04:41] <jrib> Vuen: #kubuntu might have some recommendations for you
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, open the audio tray tool properties
[04:42] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: how?
[04:42] <theBishop> dwango, hmm, what version of ndiswrapper do you have and what commands did you use?
[04:42] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: as in, for the media player?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> Aven_,  you using ubuntu?
[04:42] <MorningWood> it shows the brightness level in a little window, but is all distorted in ubuntu
[04:42] <Aven_> yeah
[04:42] <jrib> Vuen: and I agree with you about the file picker
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:42] <Jaxon> MorningWood: laptops, you are on your own, not under my area of expertise :\
[04:42] <clearzen> !backup
[04:42] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> right-click the tool
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> er, speaker
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> icon
[04:42] <MorningWood> wondering if it might be because of the graphics driver
[04:42] <interloper> and i don't even have anything antialliasing enabled either. 1024x768 is what im running at
[04:42] <MorningWood> jaxon: thanks anyway
[04:42] <Aven_> mkay, one sec
[04:43] <dwango> theBishop, I've got both 1.1 and 1.8 installed
[04:43] <Jaxon> interloper: then that sounds like a cedega configuration issue.
[04:43] <Aven_> ohh, fixed
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:43] <Aven_> it was mute
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:43] <dwango> package versions 1.1-5 and 1.18-1ubuntu2
[04:43] <jbmigel_> MorningWood I would think that your frequency settings in xorg arnt optimal for the overlay... have you checked the factory specs against your settings
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> see, simple things sometimes
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:43] <gop_> fannale hi
[04:43] <gop_> KNow I got error 5
[04:43] <interloper> im downloading the patch for q4 1.3 as we speak and see if running a native game will make any difference.
[04:43] <gop_> grub error 5
[04:43] <interloper> if so then it is prolly cedega
[04:43] <Vuen> jrib: yeah, i had found a fix that makes firefox use the qt file picker, which worked wonderfully for a while, but for some reason it switched back :(
[04:43] <MorningWood> jgmiglet, no I haven't
[04:43] <MorningWood> how would I go about doing that?
[04:44] <dwango> theBishop, what error/problem are you getting?
[04:44] <interloper> but when i drag the console window it should not be choppy anyway.
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> interloper, there might be some hack to the cedega conf files to make it better
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> true
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> interloper, what does top show?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> as the most used process?
[04:44] <theBishop> dwango, it looks like its working, but then in dmesg, it says "loadndiswrapper failed"
[04:44] <_rodney> omw sudo is shite... i changed the time into the past... now im totally locked out of my system :(
[04:44] <Aven_> nomasteryoda: nevermind, still didn't work :P
[04:44] <Aven_> it was mute, i unmuted it but still..
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, k
[04:44] <interloper> nomasteryoda im running very low on mem and cpu usage
[04:45] <jbmigel_> MorningWood goto gateway and find out the refresh rate on your display...
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> Aven_,  so click the edit option
[04:45] <interloper> 1% and 6% on mem
[04:45] <jrib> _rodney: try 'sudo -K'
[04:45] <jbmigel_> MorningWood then edit your xorg.conf file to match
[04:45] <Aven_> alright, then?
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, er, the File option
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[04:45] <_rodney> jrib: i cant run sudo due to this prob... hence that will not work..... as i said sudo stinks...this is a total joke....
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> Change device
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> you have more than one audio card?
[04:46] <Aven_> ok, then?
[04:46] <MorningWood> jbmigel_ under the section device portion?
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> or one on board, one pci?
[04:46] <interloper> nomasteryoda thats mostly xorg anything else is sub 1%
[04:46] <jrib> _rodney: -K does not require a password entry so maybe it will work?
[04:46] <Aven_> well, im using the one in front of my PC
[04:46] <dwango> theBishop, I was getting an Illegal Argument error on modprobe ndiswrapper for a while
[04:46] <Aven_> for headphones
[04:46] <palomer> what's the easiest way to input korean on ubuntu?
[04:46] <dwango> but got passed that somehow
[04:46] <Aven_> it's in front of the CPU
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> Aven_, ok
[04:46] <_rodney> sudo -K
[04:46] <_rodney> sudo: timestamp too far in the future:
[04:46] <akant2> can anyone recommend an easy/secure hd crypto package for ubuntu
[04:46] <jbmigel_> MorningWood it is in the monitor section, let me find you an example
[04:46] <akant2> for a laptop?
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> and that is not muted Aven_ ?
[04:46] <Aven_> nope, not
[04:47] <_rodney> theres no way out is there ..... geez what idiots.....
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> akant2, easy not, secure yes... truecrypt... but is command line
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> only
[04:47] <K1765> Sup
[04:47] <dwango> does anyone use a Xinerama on a laptop with an Intel graphics card (i810 driver)
[04:47] <akant2> well that is fine, just not sure where to start
[04:47] <Aven_> ahhh
[04:47] <Aven_> fixed!
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:47] <nu> How do i identify myself in IRC?
[04:47] <akant2> LUKS ?
[04:47] <Aven_> it was unmuted, just didn't know that
[04:47] <Aven_> w00t
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> xx fingers idoe
[04:47] <james296> ok, I installed a third party Edgy theme on here, but programs like Synaptic is ugly and looks sorta like Windows 95, how do I fix this?
[04:47] <Aven_> thanks
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> do
[04:47] <Jaxon> _rodney: you could try waiting until the time stamp wasn't too far in the future?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> np
[04:47] <brasko> is there a way to downgrade the version of xfce in xubuntu?
[04:48] <rbil> dwango, I do, but I don't have that machine handy. what's the prob?
[04:48] <_rodney> Jaxon: thats ridiculous but of course its not a matter of trying im forced to wait... however long it is...
[04:48] <theBishop> dwango, ok, well i'm completely uninstalling ndiswrapper, and trying it with 1.8
[04:48] <nu> How do i identify myself in IRC?
[04:48] <james296> well?
[04:48] <bruenig> nu, I believe it is, /msg Nickserv password>
[04:48] <nu> bruenig: what if i forgot my pw?
[04:48] <_rodney> or reboot in runlevel 1....
[04:48] <brasko> is there a way to downgrade the version of xfce with xubuntu?
[04:48] <bruenig> nu, then you can't indentify yourself
[04:48] <jrib> _rodney: can you use the date/time applet in gnome to change the time?  (maybe gksudo uses a different timestamp)
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> nu, you'll need a freenode admin to set you up
[04:48] <bimberi> /msg nickserv identify <password>
[04:48] <dwango> rbil: I'm trying to get the external monitor to be the 1st screen, and the Laptop LCD to be the 2nd
[04:48] <james296> can someone PLZ answer me?
[04:48] <Jaxon> _rodney: how far back did you set your ctime?
[04:48] <dwango> and it's not going so well
[04:49] <_rodney> 1hr
[04:49] <bimberi> brasko: uninstall xfce, change repositories, update, reinstall xfce
[04:49] <nu> nomasteryoda: where do i contact one?
[04:49] <bruenig> bimberi is right. Xchat does it automatically so I forgot the syntax
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> on #freenode i would suspect
[04:49] <rbil> dwango, I do just the opposite,  can u use rightof instead of leftof  for example?
[04:49] <_rodney> james296: whats up ?
[04:49] <brasko> bimberi: ok
[04:49] <nu> alright
[04:50] <nu> thanks all
[04:50] <brasko> I think it stinks that xubuntu uses a BETA VERSION of xfce
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> rbil, you can do that... i used to do that on mandrake and then on suse long ago... aka 2001
[04:50] <bruenig> brasko, what don't you get about edgy
[04:50] <nikin> some things got better... i ame still searching for some stuff
[04:50] <brasko> and I'm pretty upset I bothered to install xubuntu at all now
[04:50] <bimberi> brasko: edgy?
[04:50] <nikin> a commander like samba share browser
[04:50] <james296> how can I prevent applications such as Synaptic from looking ugly when Im using a third party Edgy theme???
[04:50] <darktoma> did anyone know how to compile FreeRA on Ubuntu?
[04:50] <jbmigel_> MorningWood put HorizSync   30-82 and VertRefresh 50-85 in your monitor section... substitute real numbers
[04:50] <dwango> rbil: yeah I can.. but when I'm docked I like to use the large display as my primary (e.g. with my panels, application menus), and obviously when i'm undocked the internal display should be primary
[04:50] <nikin> any ideas?
[04:50] <_rodney> james296: no idea.. :(
[04:50] <james296> I know theres a way but I dunno
[04:50] <dwango> otherwise when I undock the panel positions will be on the wrong display
[04:51] <james296> can someone plz help me out here???
[04:51] <james296> I cant stand this :-(
[04:51] <_rodney> lol its not good i know :(
[04:51] <bruenig> james296, it looks ugly because it is being run as root, not that that helps you any. My solution, don't run synaptic
[04:51] <nu> james296:  you cant
[04:51] <brasko> bimberi: you want me to install even NEWER software?
[04:51] <nu> james296: well id ont think you can
[04:51] <nikin> btw... is there any significant reason to move to edgy?
[04:51] <brasko> bimberi: I have 6.06 installed, and it has a buggy xfce beta version
[04:51] <nu> james296: when you use synaptic, it uses the root's theme. not your own
[04:51] <jbmigel_> nikin no
[04:51] <james296> but how come it doesnt do that with the DEFAULT theme then?
[04:51] <rbil> dwango, understand. not sure how one handles that. short of having 2 xorg.conf and do renaming to change things after booting in
[04:52] <nu> james296: because ROOT also has that default theme
[04:52] <_rodney> nikin: so you can do the beta testing... soon they can make loadsa cash.. .keep upgrading ;)
[04:52] <james296> grrrrrrrrrrr
[04:52] <jbmigel_> james296 grow up man it is just eye candy
[04:52] <james296> so what I do is install the theme under root?
[04:52] <dwango> rbil: well the conf management is something else altogether.  I'm just trying to get it to work in that layout first =)
[04:52] <nu> james296: the only thing i can think of, is installing your theme on the root themes folder, and if that doent work, i dont know
[04:52] <james296> yes and I LOVE eye candy
[04:52] <rbil> dwango, would be nice to check for whether connected and then use appropriate xorg.conf ... maybe there's a script somewhere that will do that?
[04:52] <dwango> yeah i dunno
[04:53] <rbil> dwango, then it's more than just leftof or rightof, but what screen comes first
[04:53] <bruenig> james296, i think they make it so different so that people realize that it is something that affects there system and all of that garbage about being careful and what not.
[04:53] <dwango> if only Xorg supported dynamic serverlayout selection :-/
[04:53] <brasko> well, how do I upgarde to edgy?>
[04:53] <Vaske_Car> My internet is slow, it need 5-7 seconds to open web page. Can anybody help with this problem? I use cable internet that is working fine on the same PC with Windows partition.
[04:53] <rbil> dwango, agreed
[04:53] <brasko> and will it destroy my computer?
[04:53] <nikin> james296: imho use Dapper.. why shouldn you... longterm support is allway a good stuff... just i hope they will port that new init replacer  stuff to Dapper as soon as it is stable
[04:53] <brasko> what version of xfce does edgy have?
[04:53] <jrib> ubotu: tell Vaske_Car about ipv6
[04:53] <crimsun> brasko: post-4.4 RC1
[04:53] <bruenig> brasko, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[04:53] <nikin> james: get a MAC :P
[04:54] <nikin> or get Vista :P
[04:54] <brasko> crimsun: nice, that might help
[04:54] <braino> james left :o
[04:54] <nu> oh noes
[04:54] <rbil> dwango, I've seen example xorg.conf's with more than one severlayout, but what software would select which to use, I have never found
[04:54] <braino> XGL > vista
[04:54] <_rodney> nikin: wrong theres no long term support as soon as they move most people along... your on yer own... which is best coz they only using you to make cash in the long term..its just wasting your resourcces
[04:54] <brasko> what's gksudo?
[04:54] <dwango> rbil: you can pass a parameter to X when starting it manually
[04:54] <brasko> I'm on the command line
[04:54] <dwango> but using kdm/gdm, I don't know
[04:55] <jbmigel_> rbil dwango i think you can specify what server layout to use when starting X from command line... startX layout=b kinda thing
[04:55] <bruenig> gksudo is sudo for graphical apps
[04:55] <rbil> dwango, yes that might do it... pass xinerama only if connected, don't load it in xorg.conf? maybe?
[04:55] <brasko> ok, I'll log in remoatly
[04:55] <dwango> i did find something that could set the server layout at boo
[04:55] <dwango> t
[04:55] <nikin> _rodney: Dapper has NO longterm support???????
[04:55] <_rodney> your see....
[04:55] <rbil> jbmigel_, wow, that would be nice, had no idea
[04:55] <dwango> but usually suspend and don't reboot much
[04:55] <_rodney> as soon as edgy is majorly used... its gonna be forgotten...and so it continues....
[04:56] <holycow> dapper has 7 year support
[04:56] <braino> incorrect rodney
[04:56] <_rodney> well its not been out that long ?
[04:56] <iamtheobject> Does anyone use the Logitech MX600 laser mouse that could assist me with the button placement in my xorg.conf file?
[04:56] <_rodney> ok well maybe this one they are trying to support for alittle while.. .to stop doing peoples head in
[04:56] <holycow> _rodney, i would strongly recommend googling  before speaking
[04:56] <holycow> forget thinking, its not working for ya
[04:56] <bruenig> dapper is supported for three years
[04:56] <holycow> 7 years
[04:56] <_rodney> fair play.. im sorry... but we will see ;)
[04:57] <rbil> iamtheobject, have mx500, close enuf? :-)
[04:57] <bruenig> so it has 2 years and 8 months left
[04:57] <_rodney> they prolly invested alittle in that so its in there interest
[04:57] <iamtheobject> it might be
[04:57] <jbmigel_> 3 years? that doesnt sound like long term
[04:57] <nikin> bruenig: server has more not?
[04:57] <bruenig> jbmigel_, well larger than the normal 18 months
[04:58] <bruenig> nikin, server five years says ubuntu.com
[04:58] <bimberi> yep, 3 years desktop, 5 years server
[04:58] <_rodney> cash cash cash.... :/ and they made out there were soo different..... typical.....
[04:59] <bruenig> that will be odd thinking that people will be using dapper when 11.04 is out
[04:59] <holycow> there you go
[04:59] <Hooveyy> whats the banshee package called?
[04:59] <bimberi> banshee
[04:59] <nikin> _rodney: what cash?
[04:59] <Hooveyy> apt-get install banshee says package not found
[04:59] <brasko> thanks all
[04:59] <_rodney> er isnt there support line costly or something ?
[04:59] <jbmigel_> how do they tell the difference between server/desktop? like if i install apache on my desktop i get security updates for firefox?
[04:59] <brasko> hope edgy works
[04:59] <_rodney> either way... heh
[04:59] <bimberi> !info banshee
[04:59] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[04:59] <nikin> i didnt pay for my ubuntu... noone did AFAIK
[04:59] <bruenig> bashee requires universe repo Hooveyy, have you enalbed it?
[04:59] <holycow> jbmigel_, there is no real difference
[04:59] <Hooveyy> No,
[05:00] <interloper> well.. can someone maybe email me their xorg.conf file with a geforce 6600gt or alike card?
[05:00] <holycow> jbmigel_, its just one group of packages is called server another workstation
[05:00] <bimberi> Hooveyy: install it via Applications -> Add/Remove...
[05:00] <holycow> apache is typically used on severs thus it is grouped there
[05:00] <Jaxon> Has anyone else had problems getting SpamAssassin working with Postfix?  I've followed a couple different Howtos, but in the end, I'm not getting any headers added to incoming mail.
[05:00] <Hooveyy> ah, k
[05:00] <bruenig> Hooveyy, easy to follow guide if you don't know how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[05:00] <Vaske_Car> how do i check if I am running Dapper or???
[05:00] <Clinton__> are there any repositories that contain Eclipse 3.2 ?
[05:00] <bimberi> (which enables the repos for you)
[05:00] <holycow> doesn't matter what you install its going to be updated provided its in the core group of supported packaqges
[05:01] <skelter> so, I did a "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and now when I try to boot X can't start properly...can anyone help me get things back to normal?
[05:01] <ice63> holycow, hello
[05:01] <jbmigel_> holycow oh so your saying the server applications will receive 5 years support, the desktop applications 3... that makes sense
[05:01] <nikin> skelter : sudo nvidia-glx-config disable   ... maybe
[05:01] <holycow> jbmigel_, correct
[05:01] <holycow> hello ice63
[05:02] <MorningWood> jbmigel, I found my refresh rate which is a max of 60hz but I have no idea where to find the horizontalsync and vertical refresh
[05:02] <skelter> heh. good idea :s
[05:02] <holycow> MorningWood, google th emodel an dmake of your moni
[05:02] <Clinton__> are there any repositories that contain Eclipse 3.2 ?
[05:02] <holycow> also where is that link
[05:02] <jbmigel_> MorningWood tell me again what model of gateway you have?
[05:02] <bruenig> Clinton__, don't think so, certainly not any official ones
[05:02] <MorningWood> m360
[05:02] <holycow> someone wrote a freebie app for modifying xorg.conf
[05:02] <bimberi> Clinton__: not ubuntu ones
[05:02] <MorningWood> http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/M360/3401701sp17.shtml
[05:02] <Clinton__> bruenig: I'm looking for unofficial too...
[05:03] <jbmigel_> MorningWood thx for link :)
[05:03] <bruenig> Clinton__, well that looks like a job for google
[05:03] <holycow> !xorgedit
[05:03] <MorningWood> thank you
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgedit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Clinton__> bruenig: already been trying, haven't found anything yet
[05:03] <Clinton__> bruenig: which is why I'm here asking :)
[05:03] <holycow> http://www.cyskat.de/dee/progxorg.htm
[05:04] <nikin> is there any commander style app for accesing SAMBA shares?
[05:04] <holycow> i don't know if that is stable at all so please backup your xorg.conf file
[05:04] <holycow> but hopefully that will make it into gnome or something
[05:04] <Keyseir> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." I get this whenever I try to apt-get or use synaptic
[05:04] <nikin> besides SMBC wich has a lot of problems
[05:04] <Hooveyy> woot, banshee is l33t
[05:04] <Keyseir> When I run dpkg --configure -a it attempts to reinstall the program vmware and seems to get stuck
[05:04] <holycow> and integrate with a hardware list so you can select your monitor model an dmake
[05:05] <Keyseir> Should I pastebin this, or does anyone have an idea?
[05:05] <bruenig> Clinton__, looks like a source compilation
[05:05] <Clinton__> bruenig: what are you nuts?  this isn't #gentoo :)
[05:05] <bruenig> Clinton__, 108 MB looks like fun
[05:06] <Clinton__> I have the binary installed into my ~, but I was hoping for a true repository, oh well
[05:06] <jbmigel_> MorningWood hmm ya it doesnt look like they tell you. can you make sure your set to 60hz in System>preferences>screen res
[05:06] <SuperMiguel> what is an blog?
[05:06] <MorningWood> jbmigel, yes I am
[05:07] <nikin> Clinton__ Compiling isnt that evil, or mybe is... but it is better than not having something :P
[05:07] <Clinton__> nikin: Compiling is OK when you absolutely must.
[05:07] <Clinton__> nikin: especially on a laptop that gets hot enough without compiling
[05:08] <nikin> Clinton__ i ame working on a laptop, but i have no heat problems
[05:08] <ice63> what is the best why to get started setting up a firewall on ubuntu ?
[05:08] <Jaxon> So I guess I'm the only person having issues with SpamAssassin?
[05:08] <Joetheodd> Clinton__: They just need to set their laptop on a desk when they're comping, or their girlfriend will get mad when they can't reproduce.
[05:08] <braino> ice63: try firestarter
[05:08] <Vaske_Car> nikin, check out http://krusader.sourceforge.net/
[05:09] <vitriol> HEY I USED TO HAVE KDE SET UP TO WHERE CTRL + TAB WOULD SWITCH VIRTUAL DESKTOPS...
[05:09] <vitriol> ANYBODY KNOW HOW I CAN GET THAT BACK?
[05:09] <Vaske_Car> how to check Ubuntu version?
[05:09] <Joetheodd> vitriol: Please don't talk in all caps.
[05:09] <defrysk> What noise
[05:09] <Clinton__> nikin: I tried Gentoo for awhile, but went to Ubuntu (former hardcore Debian user)... I didn't like feeling my laptop get so hot, even on my desk
[05:09] <vitriol> Joetheodd: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TODAY IS, DO YOU?
[05:09] <vitriol> http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/22/happy-international-caps-lock-day/
[05:09] <Madpilot> vitriol, enough shouting
[05:10] <upgrdman> im trying to install some firmware for my pcHDTV card. it says to put the files in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/, but /usr/lib/hotplug does not exist... ?
[05:10] <Clinton__> isn't the bot supposed to kick caps mongrols?
[05:10] <Joetheodd> VITROL, THAT'S GOTTA BE TO STUPIDEST RULE EVER, LOL
[05:10] <Joetheodd> ok, done.
[05:10] <vitriol> ok, fair enough
[05:10] <vitriol> maybe i should be asking in #kubuntu ....
[05:10] <ice63> braino, how can a firewall protect the same computter it's on?
[05:10] <defrysk> yes
[05:10] <mzuverink> Are we using ubuntu+1 for edgy questions?
[05:11] <defrysk> yes
[05:11] <Hooveyy> how would I install konquerer ?
[05:11] <defrysk> konqueror
[05:11] <braino> are you talking about using your comp as a firewall?
[05:11] <nikin> Clinton__: i never used #Gentoo just some Debian based distros, but the  first thing i allways did is to configure my CPU-s speed stepping, and if doing hard work.. disabling the heighest speed :D
[05:11] <Hooveyy> yeah, whatever
[05:11] <Hooveyy> wait, nevermind
[05:11] <skelter> so I hit a "sudu nvidia-glx-config enable" and when I boot, x doesn't start up. I tried "sudo nvidia-glx-config disable", but no change...anyone know how I can get things back to normal?
[05:12] <Clinton__> nikin: yea the speed stepping can be nice, but I like having the full potential of my CPU at all times
[05:12] <defrysk> skelter run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:12] <skelter> thanks, i'll try that
[05:12] <nikin> Clinton__ i like having control over it, coz rendering is evil... :D
[05:12] <Clinton__> nikin: now if I could enable it only when, say X has been idle for 30 minutes and then disable when X becomes unidle, then I'd be more happy
[05:12] <nikin> more evil than compiling :D
[05:13] <ice63> useing a computer for a firewall ....that one :)
[05:13] <RedEyess> Hello
[05:13] <RedEyess> How do I change the resolution of the GDM screen?
[05:13] <nikin> Clinton__ that isnt such hard :D
[05:13] <surgy> hi
[05:13] <Clinton__> nikin: really?  lst time I tried, nobody knew
[05:13] <Clinton__> nikin: (about a year ago)
[05:13] <nikin> never tried it... but some scripting will do the trick
[05:13] <braino> ice63: firewall won't help you (I don't think it lets you do forwarding), lemme dig up a link
[05:13] <braino> i mean firestarter
[05:13] <braino> heh
[05:14] <ice63> i have never used firestarter for a firewall
[05:14] <RedEyess> How do I change the resolution of the GDM screen?
[05:14] <surgy> can someone tell me how i can access my  uuntu partition  from  winxp?
[05:14] <idel> hi, I have problems with firefox, and others apps, it crashes all the time, I am using ubuntu edgy, I wonder if someone else has had this problems?
[05:14] <nikin> Clinton__ so what you want is that wen x becomes inactive then speed should go down, and when X becomes active again speed goes MAX? did i understand right
[05:14] <nikin> ?
[05:14] <fl> Clinton__: why dont you use the ondemand governor? Or any of the daemons like powernowd? They dynamically switch the frequency according to the load
[05:15] <Flannel> idel: ask in #ubuntu+1, that's the edgy channel
[05:15] <Clinton__> nikin: exactly
[05:15] <Jaxon> RedEyess: try "CTRL+ALT+NumPlus" and "CTRL+ALT+NumMinus"
[05:15] <Clinton__> fl: on demand doesn't kick in fast enough for me, I like to have full CPU power when I'm using my laptop
[05:15] <idel> thanks Flannel
[05:15] <holycow> they also let you set it on 100% cpu or various workload levels via neato applet
[05:15] <surgy> anyone?
[05:15] <jbmigel_> Clinton__ it take like 2ms to kick up i dont think you can tell difference
[05:16] <nikin> Clinton__ i gonna take a look
[05:16] <Jaxon> surgy: I don't believe there has been anything decent written to read ext3 from Windows.
[05:16] <fl> Clinton__: what's the delay? A few ms imho
[05:16] <surgy> jaxon: nothing?
[05:16] <BelialMkII> surgy, there is something to read ext3, but cant write to it
[05:16] <Clinton__> fl: enough that I can feel the diff
[05:17] <braino> ice63: the only thing I can find right now is how to do it manually with iptables. Here is a guide to start you off http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/IptablesFirewall
[05:17] <nikin> i think the powernowd's agressive setting will do for Clinton__
[05:17] <surgy> belialmkII: link?
[05:17] <BelialMkII> uhh actually, think i found one that claims to do both, never tried it
[05:17] <defrysk> google
[05:17] <Jaxon> surgy: I use a fat32 partition to copy stuff from Ubuntu to Windows.
[05:17] <BelialMkII> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[05:17] <braino> ice63: you will need to go down to where it discusses forwarding
[05:17] <fl> Wrong, now one can write to ext3 9or ext2 at least from windows)
[05:17] <jbmigel_> Clinton__ the only think you could possibly notice is the 2 hour drop in battery life your way
[05:18] <nikin> Clinton__ read  man powernowd   ... maybe thats good enough for you.... see the agressive setting
[05:18] <Clinton__> jbmigel_: my battery is 4 years old, its hosed anyways
[05:18] <surgy> jaxon: care to go  into more   detail?
[05:18] <Clinton__> nikin: I've tried powernowd, didn't like it
[05:18] <Clinton__> trust me when I say I can tell the diff
[05:18] <nikin> Clinton__ :D okok
[05:19] <abbi2b> is compiz available for ubuntu?
[05:19] <Clinton__> abbi2b: yes
[05:19] <Jaxon> surgy: On one of my drives is a 10gb fat32 partition, which both winxp and any linux kernel have r/w support
[05:19] <Pelo> evening folks
[05:19] <Flannel> abbi2b: yes.  #ubuntu-xgl has information
[05:20] <Pelo> is there anyway to restore a deleted file in ubuntu ?  it wasn'T deleted using the usual method
[05:20] <abbi2b> thanks Flannel :)
[05:20] <jbmigel_> Pelo if you deleted it from gnome you can still find it in wastebasket
[05:20] <Clinton__> Pelo: whats the usual method?
[05:20] <jbmigel_> Pelo if you were at command line then the file is gone
[05:21] <Pelo> the usual method would be to the waste basket, this was deleted from a win app running in wine
[05:21] <Clinton__> Pelo: did you look in the trashbasket?
[05:21] <Pelo> Clinton__  it's not in the trashcan
[05:21] <nkassi> Pelo: in that case  it was delete completly
[05:21] <SpaceFrog> hey guys. How do i change the default login message that appears when a user logs into Ubuntu via the shell?
[05:22] <Pelo> any recovery progs for ext3 drives ?
[05:22] <bimberi> SpaceFrog: /etc/motd
[05:22] <jbmigel_> Pelo if it was really really important you could spend a day looking through your drives raw data and find it again
[05:22] <SpaceFrog> thanks bimberi
[05:22] <Clinton__> Pelo: OK, you delted it with a Windows app using  Wine?  Did you try to see if Wine installed a trash can directory ?
[05:22] <bimberi> SpaceFrog: np :)
[05:22] <maxflax> I must say.. compiling the alsa-drivers didnt go as planned
[05:22] <fl> surgy: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ or http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:22] <Pelo> Clinton__  looking for that right now
[05:22] <naut> What package do I need to install to get pdflatex?
[05:22] <idel> which gnome version has ubuntu dapper?
[05:23] <poningru> 2.14 iirc
[05:23] <maxflax> Looks like a total reinstall of the OS.. :(
[05:23] <poningru> maxflax: whats wrong?
[05:23] <Pelo> who suggested the raw data thing ? how would I go about doing that ?
[05:23] <Clinton__> Pelo: any luck?
[05:23] <AdamKili> hey is Ubuntu the most popular linux distro? if not, which is? Fedora?
[05:23] <_ian_> what ius skypes package name if i were to apt get
[05:23] <Pelo> Clinton__  wine doesn'T seem to make it's own trashcan
[05:23] <defrysk> skype
[05:24] <dfcarney> Pelo: how much do you know about filesystems, inodes, etc ?
[05:24] <Clinton__> Pelo: you might be screwed
[05:24] <Pelo> dfcarney   nada
[05:24] <jbmigel_> Pelo im looking now for a recovery tool
[05:24] <Clinton__> dfcarney: hope you can help him from here
[05:24] <dfcarney> Pelo: ouch
[05:24] <Pelo> dfcarney  donT' worry about it ,  I just have to dl that torrent again
[05:24] <bimberi> !skype | _ian_
[05:24] <ubotu> _ian_: skype is To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:24] <dfcarney> Clinton__: not really.  i've manually recovered corrupt Ext3 and ReiserFS systems, but it takes forever
[05:24] <Hooveyy> Adam: I think ubuntu is the most popular, I believe Red Hat, Fedora, and Mandriva are popular too.
[05:25] <jbmigel_> Pelo omg it is a torrent... dood your on your own
[05:25] <Clinton__> dfcarney: corrupt reiserfs?  really!
[05:25] <Hooveyy> Debian as well, especially, (ubuntu is based off of it)
[05:25] <Pelo> just a bit annoying I apparwently downloaded the same thing twice and then went and deleted the wront one
[05:25] <Frederick> does anyone here installed nessus?
[05:25] <dfcarney> pelo: oh man, it'll take you far less time to just download it again
[05:25] <nikin> Clinton__ : powernowd -p 10 -l 5 -u 10 -m 1      ....is your setting :P
[05:25] <Jaxon> Pelo: unless you are using a journalling filesystem and the changes haven't been written to disk, then you are out of luck.
[05:25] <SpaceFrog> Can someone recommend  an MP3 player that's compatible with Linux?
[05:25] <dfcarney> Clinton__: yeah, just some garbled bits, but it really screwed things up
[05:25] <nkassi> SF:XMMS
[05:25] <maxflax> poninguru, well.. it won\t boot.. stops and just throws out errors about ATA1 or something and once i got past it.. it went as far as I got some graphics but the introsound was looping on the first 1 sek.. of the sound. and it stalled.. could go out to terminal via.. ctrl alt f2
[05:25] <dfcarney> Clinton__: i didn't do it all myself, however -- there were a bunch of us working on it
[05:26] <nkassi> SpaceFrog: look at the restrictedformat page in the wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <Clinton__> dfcarney: I'm surprised to here of a non-hardware related reiserfs corruption
[05:26] <AdamKili> which linux distro is most popular?
[05:26] <dfcarney> Clinton__: well, we found a bug in SuSE's kernel driver for it.
[05:26] <jbmigel_> Pelo http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm
[05:26] <dfcarney> Clinton__: (and we submitted the patch upstream)
[05:26] <Pelo> Jaxon  dfcarney  Clinton__  , I'll just dl it again , no trouble, it's just dam annoing to dl a two parter and then realise part 2 doen't have sound,  then notice you downloaded to different version and you could have tried the other one but you deleted it thinking it was the bad one
[05:26] <Madpilot> AdamKili, you're in #ubuntu, guess which distro we're biased toward?
[05:27] <SpaceFrog> nkassi: I was actually referring to mp3 devices that dont come with proprietary software.. How well do IPods work with linux?
[05:27] <Pelo> thanks jbmigel_
[05:27] <Clinton__> Pelo: heh, good luck!  what were you dl anyways?
[05:27] <totall_6_7> AdamKili: you are asking that question in the ubuntu room???
[05:27] <mzuverink> SpaceFrog, My ipod works just fine
[05:27] <Pelo> Clinton__  torchwood
[05:27] <Clinton__> dfcarney: glad to hear you got it fixed, hopefully the devs take the patch
[05:27] <braino> AdamKili: http://distrowatch.com/ has some statistics
[05:27] <Clinton__> Pelo: Doctor Who right?
[05:27] <tnnc> can someone tell me what commands i need to run to have another video to be seen
[05:27] <AdamKili> where should i ask it? is there an unbiased chat room somewhere?
[05:27] <Pelo> Clinton__  drwho spin off,  first two eps tonight
[05:27] <dfcarney> Clinton__: yeah, though it seems that SuSE is planning to switch away from ReiserFS now...and go back to EXT
[05:27] <nikin> AdamKili: Ubuntu :D but the Q is in what field of operation?
[05:27] <nkassi> SpaceFrog: There are multiple software that support Ipods. Just pluging it in will load one
[05:28] <Clinton__> Pelo: yup, I've seen it.. excellent show
[05:28] <Clinton__> Pelo: Friday nights show (in the US anyhow) was excellent as well, you'll enjoy it
[05:28] <AdamKili> personal, normal use
[05:28] <Pelo> don't spoil it
[05:28] <Jaxon> SpaceFrog: my iPod works fantastic.
[05:28] <Clinton__> Pelo: I won't
[05:28] <nkassi> SpaceFrog: If not, there is gtkpod, pytunes ...
[05:28] <mike_eyb> hello, i am in dire need of a linux guru
[05:29] <SpaceFrog> ah, thanks for the help. hehe, I'm trying to decide what mp3 player i should get my girlfriend for christmas
[05:29] <idel> and, if dapper is the LTS version, it means that it uses old packages respect to edgy?
[05:29] <nikin> AdamKili: the use Ubuntu: good stuff, stable stuff, and its compatible with everithing ... behalv a two-handed sword.... but maybe supports that to :D
[05:29] <nkassi> SpaceFrog: Most other MP3 players can be browsed as usbdisk devices. They will create a icon on the desktop.
[05:29] <defrysk> mp3player ?
[05:29] <defrysk> get a g3
[05:29] <Clinton__> Pelo: btw, I HIGHLY recommend Tivo, or MythTV, or something equivalent
[05:29] <mike_eyb> Can anyoen tell me how to enable dual monitor in Ubuntu
[05:30] <jbmigel_> nkassi your gf runs ubuntu?
[05:30] <Pelo> Clinton__  why ?
[05:30] <Flannel> !tell mike_eyb about xinerama
[05:30] <SpaceFrog> jbmigel: mine does.
[05:30] <Clinton__> Pelo: they record the shows for you...hell I forget they're on half the time, then I go check it out and I say "oh yea!" and sit down for a couple hours of good TV, and skipping commercials :)
[05:30] <mike_eyb> what is xinerama?
[05:30] <nkassi> jbmigel: Mine too, she loves gnome majjongh ;-)
[05:31] <Flannel> mike_eyb: check your query from ubotu, it has a link
[05:31] <Pelo> Clinton__   that's what RSS downloaders are for
[05:31] <tnnc> added new video card can ssh into box but X wont come up what do i need to run
[05:31] <lostboyz> how do i reconfigure the xorg file i always forget the right command
[05:31] <Clinton__> Pelo: OK, you're teaching me something, where is this RSS feed?
[05:31] <mike_eyb> I'm a complete newb, never heard about ubuntu unyil 45 min ago
[05:31] <Clinton__> lostboyz: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <Madpilot> Flannel, you know about ubotu's new | command? Less confusing than PMs sometimes
[05:31] <maxflax> poningru, well.. it won\t boot.. stops and just throws out errors about ATA1 or something and once i got past it.. it went as far as I got some graphics but the introsound was looping on the first 1 sek.. of the sound. and it stalled.. could go out to terminal via.. ctrl alt f2
[05:31] <lostboyz> and is there anyone else here that has a problem with a ati radeon xpress card with the fglrx driver?
[05:31] <Madpilot> !yourself | Flannel
[05:31] <ubotu> Flannel: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:32] <jbmigel_> mike_eyb welcome to linux!
[05:32] <lostboyz> when i try to logout i only get a black screen
[05:32] <mike_eyb> thank you very much
[05:32] <nikin> still looking for a commander like samba browser, that does not depend on KDE or Gnome... the best would be console :D .... mc and smbc are not good coz they have some serius problems
[05:32] <lostboyz> and cannot shut down correctly
[05:32] <Flannel> Madpilot: Ah, they added it?  How handy.  Still... spammy though.  Too bad there's no happy medium.
[05:32] <mike_eyb> i used to use pirc back on window and get here has been the only thing i could do
[05:32] <nkassi> mike_eyb: i suggest searching wiki.ubuntu.com for help.
[05:32] <cafuego> Sorry, which way to the asylum?
[05:32] <mike_eyb> i was on some forrum but they were talking something about xconf.org?
[05:32] <Pelo> Clinton__  join me in #pelo since this is off topic
[05:33] <maxflax> 4th reinstall of the os on this comp... iits starting to getting tiresom. darn alsa
[05:33] <nkassi> mike_eyb: they probably have a page on dual monitors
[05:33] <Madpilot> cafuego, isn't that #ubuntu-offtopic? ;)
[05:33] <lostboyz> maxflax what are you trying to do?
[05:33] <mike_eyb> right now i have the two monitor working but one is a clone of the other
[05:33] <KevinKid> Hi
[05:33] <nkassi> mike_eyb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[05:34] <nkassi> mike_eyb: that should help.
[05:34] <dfcarney> mike_eyb: if "dual monitors" doesn't work for a search, try "dual head"
[05:34] <maxflax> lostboyz, getting it up running again.. did a compilation and install of the latest alsa drivers. 1.0.13
[05:34] <mike_eyb> the major question i have right now: can i right click or go to some setting to enable or do i have to do something with code?
[05:34] <lostboyz> you may have to use a driver that is older
[05:34] <lostboyz> sometimes new drivers have bugs in them
[05:35] <nikin> i think i go and sleep a bit.. its 5:34 AM here :P cul8r
[05:35] <lostboyz> that do not always work with older computers maxflax
[05:35] <KevinKid> I recently downloaded Ubuntu Linux Dapper Drake and tried to install it on a PC with 256 of RAM and since the only way I could devise for installing was running the LIVE CD, the machine would halt and I couldn't install it. Is there any way I can install Ubuntu without having to run the Live CD?
[05:35] <maxflax> lostboyz, well its a brand new computer.. only 2 weeks old..
[05:35] <Flannel> KevinKid: the alternate CD
[05:36] <KevinKid> Where do I get it?
[05:36] <jbmigel_> mike_eyb it is kinda hard to setup for your first day... you need to make sure your driver works... then you need to set up xinerama
[05:36] <nikin> ubuntu.com :D
[05:36] <Flannel> KevinKid: same place, ubuntu.com/download
[05:36] <KevinKid> what's the name of the iso?
[05:36] <maxflax> lostboyz, running on a nforce 430 chipset.. with onboard gfx and all that I can need..
[05:36] <Flannel> KevinKid: You'll see it, it'sthe "alternate" isntead of the "desktop"
[05:37] <nikin> a
[05:37] <mike_eyb> i eventually want to set up my comp as an FTP server.... i suspect that is going to be more difficult right?
[05:37] <nkassi> mike_eyb: if there is, it would be under system->preferences or system->administration
[05:37] <KevinKid> Ok, so I got to ubuntu.com and then where do I click?
[05:37] <lostboyz> maxflax ok sounds good i am not able to help i don't think i was just telling you my experience
[05:37] <maxflax> lostboyz, wanted my sound working with spdif and crimsun said that the problem I had was solved in the 1.0.13 version of Alsa drivers
[05:37] <Flannel> mike_eyb: nope.  There are howtos on that as well
[05:37] <nkassi> mike_eyb: the odds are bad for a click button sorry.
[05:37] <mike_eyb> hmmm
[05:37] <Flannel> KevinKid: ubuntu.com/download choose a mirror, then grab the alternate ISO for your arch
[05:37] <dfcarney> mike_eyb: in fact, it's pretty easy...providing your ISP doesn't block the ports, you've got the right security/firewall, etc.
[05:37] <mike_eyb> linux might prove to be difficult
[05:38] <KevinKid> ok thank you
[05:38] <Keyseir> Well shit. I just upgraded to dapper and I wasn't aware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263214 Has anyone been able to get VMware player to work?
[05:38] <Flannel> mike_eyb: you won't need to code, you'll need to change configurations, it's not that difficult, there's lots of info out there to help
[05:38] <nkassi> mike_eyb: sadly some things are just not there yet.
[05:38] <jbmigel_> mike_eyb there is a definite learning curve but believe me it is worth it... just be patient and pick one thing at a time
[05:39] <maxflax> anyone else with a nForce 430 based motherboard_
[05:39] <mike_eyb> that is what the guy who gave me the ubuntu cd said
[05:39] <clearzen> I'm trying to backup my system over a network using tar and bzip2 and then I am trying to pipe it my server through ssh. But it keeps giving me "host unknown" errors, I know the ssh is working and I don't know what I am doing wrong.
[05:39] <mike_eyb> but he speaks binary and klingon
[05:40] <jbmigel_> mike_eyb ka plah!
[05:40] <nkassi> mike_eyb: my suggestion would be to find someone locally that could walk you through some of the steps. In the end it is worth the work.
[05:40] <Keyseir> Anyone here even Use VMware?
[05:40] <maxflax> well .. of to do that reinstall no.. time to waste.. im not getting any wiser here anyway
[05:40] <dfcarney> i use vmware
[05:40] <charlie5>  hello ... this is rather OT, sorry, but i cannot find help anywhere else :/ ... i'm having trouble setting up my firewall to allow the outside to access my svn repos ... i have a netcomm modem/router ... would anyone have some time to help ?
[05:40] <nkassi> keyseir: I do.
[05:40] <mike_eyb> Anyone from Niagara Region, ON Canada
[05:40] <compudaze> whats the difference with xchat and xchat-gnome?
[05:40] <ozzicle> Has anyone had any xgl/compiz issues where the program gets drawn but it's nearly transparent and only visible if it's over another program window that's all black?
[05:41] <Keyseir> nkassi: Any luck getting it to work on dapper drake or newer?
[05:41] <Pelo> compudaze ,  xchat is nice, xchat-gnome sucks
[05:41] <ozzicle> It's not the first time I've had it
[05:41] <compudaze> why does it suck?
[05:41] <Keyseir> nkassi: I just upgraded from breezy and I'm having issues as seen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263214
[05:41] <ozzicle> But this time it's with a program I really need :(
[05:41] <Flannel> ozzicle: #ubuntu-xgl (or #xgl)
[05:41] <nkassi> Keyseir: yes, you need to install the kernel header package
[05:41] <Keyseir> nkassi: I just removed all my vmware files and am trying to reinstall through apt-get...
[05:41] <ozzicle> heh
[05:41] <Keyseir> nkassi: How do I do that?
[05:41] <ozzicle> THanks Flannel
[05:41] <nkassi> Keyseir: let me lookup the name of the package
[05:41] <dfcarney> Keyseir: you may need to recompile your kernel with VMware support
[05:41] <Pelo> compudaze , seriously,  xchat-gnome is more of a noob version of xchat as far as I am concerned , go for the full xchat
[05:41] <Keyseir> nkassi: Thank you.
[05:41] <dfcarney> or build a custom driver for it
[05:41] <Keyseir> dfcarney: VMware support?
[05:42] <mike_eyb> I was trying to update Ubuntu it install 167 packages but retruned two error about the install
[05:42] <Keyseir> dfcarney: If I were to do this, where would I start?
[05:42] <mike_eyb> something about dapper
[05:42] <mike_eyb> what is that
[05:42] <tgelter> hey all - anyone had success getting compiz and/or twinview working w/ twinview on dual monitors?
[05:42] <Pelo> mike_eyb  dapper drake is the name of the 6.06 release
[05:42] <KevinKid> Had I known there was an alternate install CD for computers with not a lot of RAM then I would have downloaded that first and not the official one. I think the webmasters of ubuntu.com should place that notice to avoid people like me to have to redownload another iso when our connections aren't that fast.
[05:42] <nkassi> linux-header- your platform
[05:43] <compudaze> so the gnome version is a prettied up front-end?
[05:43] <mike_eyb> how large is the file and where can idownload it?
[05:43] <Keyseir> What do I do to check my platform?
[05:43] <nkassi> Keyseir: linux-header
[05:43] <Flannel> KevinKid: they're both official
[05:43] <KevinKid> but there's no notice saying, hey dude this for people with low ram
[05:43] <Pelo> compudaze , I don'T think so, I think it is jsut a bit lighter on features
[05:43] <nkassi> Keyseir: uname -r
[05:43] <Keyseir> thx
[05:43] <tnnc> just added an video card to my box and screen is black but i can ssh into the box need to know what i need to run so if will cinfure the new card??
[05:44] <Flannel> compudaze: no, it's more 'integrated' into the OS
[05:44] <Pelo> compudaze ,  I used it for about half an hour before I figured out is wasn'T just a xchat that wasn'T configured the way I was use to it ,  then I switch back to xchat regular
[05:44] <KevinKid> where can i post suggestions to improve our community?
[05:44] <nkassi> Keyseir: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VmWare
[05:44] <nkassi> Keyseir: You also need build-essential
[05:44] <Keyseir> nkassi: It said I already had linux headers installed =/
[05:44] <mzuverink> tnnc, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:45] <Madpilot> KevinKid, depends on what you mean - software bugs to to bugs.ubuntu.com; community suggestions might be best on the ubuntu-sounder mailing list
[05:45] <KevinKid> whats the url for that list
[05:45] <nkassi> Keyseir: Look at that page, and use the package available from vmware's website
[05:45] <Madpilot> KevinKid, one sec, I'll find it
[05:45] <Newby> hello
[05:45] <KevinKid> thanks
[05:45] <tnnc> mzuverink thanks
[05:46] <Madpilot> KevinKid, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder
[05:46] <Newby> hello can anybody help me in the new ubuntu sistem?
[05:46] <dfcarney> Keyseir: you may find that whenever you perform an upgrade that you'll have to run through theses steps again.
[05:46] <Keyseir> dfcarney: Wonderful!
[05:46] <tgelter> anyone? xgl/compiz w/ twinview?
[05:46] <mike_eyb> newby:join the club
[05:46] <dfcarney> Keyseir: yeah, it's a tonne of fun
[05:47] <Madpilot> tgelter, #ubuntu-xgl
[05:47] <tgelter> oh, thanks Madpilot
[05:47] <KevinKid> thanks
[05:47] <Vaske_Car> jrk_, was you the one suggested to disable IPv6 few minutes ago?
[05:47] <mike_eyb> Newby: i just installed it 45 min ago from XP i'm soo lost right now
[05:47] <Newby> the problem is " how can i see the shared files from my pc with windows?
[05:47] <mzuverink> For some reason no matter what screensaver I select it will only blank the screen.  Anyone have any ideas on fixing that?
[05:47] <Flannel> !samba | Newby
[05:47] <ubotu> Newby: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:47] <Newby> im in the cd live ubuntu 6.06
[05:48] <wef> why I cant connect via ftp using my ssh root/password?
[05:48] <mzuverink> Newby, try http://easylinux.info
[05:48] <mike_eyb> got Places> network servers
[05:48] <Flannel> Newby: oh, same computer?
[05:48] <Newby> haaa ok thank
[05:48] <nkassi> Keyseir: just watch for any kernel updates in the list from update-manager
[05:48] <nkassi> Keyseir: or if vmware breaks ;-)
[05:48] <mike_eyb> that i'm not sure about
[05:48] <Newby> but i have to installed rigth now?
[05:48] <Newby> i mean
[05:48] <Vaske_Car> !tell ati
[05:48] <compudaze> wef: ftp for root is usually disabled
[05:48] <compudaze> which ftpd are you running?
[05:48] <dfcarney> wef: security, most likely
[05:48] <Newby> actually i am in a pc whitout hdd
[05:49] <Newby> im using the ubuntu live cd
[05:49] <Madpilot> wef, because ssh != ftp
[05:49] <Vaske_Car> is there tutorial of how to install ATI drivers for ATI 9200 SE ?
[05:49] <mzuverink> Newby, I used the live cd, installed a bunch of stuff to test, but I am sure that is amount of ram independant
[05:49] <Keyseir> nkassi: I think I'm about to adopt a policy of "liking my kernel the way it is already, thank you ver much"
[05:49] <wef> dunno
[05:49] <chuckyp> Anyone here play cube?
[05:49] <mike_eyb> I was playing with Ubuntu live.. i just installed it
[05:49] <compudaze> usually theres /etc/ftp* files - one is a users file that disables certain users, namely root...
[05:49] <interloper> guys how can i boot to text, changing inittab not doing it.
[05:49] <mike_eyb> i'm trying to run dual monitors
[05:49] <nkassi> Keyseir: that would work too ;0)
[05:49] <Newby> mmm
[05:49] <Pelo> Newby  I know you can run live cd and save your settings to a usbdrive or some such ,  but I am not familiar with the details, if that helps
[05:49] <Newby> but from where can i download that samba?
[05:50] <nkassi> Newby: is it a machine on the network ?
[05:50] <Newby> yes nkassi
[05:50] <nkassi> Newby: places->network server
[05:50] <Newby> i got 2 pc
[05:50] <compudaze> interlooper: you you booting into a displaymanager currently/
[05:50] <compudaze> ?
[05:50] <JuhazOne> yo fellas
[05:50] <mzuverink> Newby, got to that page I listed and read it, its got a lot of info
[05:50] <Newby> one with windows xp
[05:50] <compudaze> or str8 to X
[05:50] <JuhazOne> i've got a weird problem
[05:50] <Newby> and the other with the cd live ubuntu
[05:50] <nkassi> Newby: places->connect to server , sorry
[05:51] <JuhazOne> i woke up today to the fact that there was no space left on /
[05:51] <interloper> compudaze yes im going straight to graphical right now
[05:51] <ESPOiG> wen u have mounted the hdd of the comp that you want to fix grub do u do the install for it like so <grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/harddrive/boot/ /dev/hdc3> or <grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/harddrive /dev/hdc3> or am i wrong completely
[05:51] <Pelo> JuhazOne  ,  make some room
[05:51] <JuhazOne> i found out that ~/.xsession-errors is 3 gigabytes. i removed the file and expected to get more free space..
[05:51] <compudaze> so you're not booting to gdm/kdm to enter your passwd first?
[05:51] <interloper> yes
[05:51] <mike_eyb> Guys i'm out thank for the info!
[05:51] <schmity> my mother
[05:51] <Flannel> !tell ESPOiG about grub
[05:51] <nkassi> Newby: then choose windows share from the drop down menu
[05:51] <JuhazOne> but i didn't. df thinks / is still full.
[05:51] <schmity> put a bagel in the disk drive
[05:51] <schmity> and now it wont read on ubuntu
[05:51] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: did you reboot after deleting the file?
[05:51] <Flannel> ESPOiG: that page (first link, about reinstsalling after installing windows) gives the exact command
[05:51] <JuhazOne> nope
[05:51] <schmity> can someone help me?
[05:51] <Newby> mmm
[05:51] <schmity> put a bagel in the disk drive
[05:51] <ESPOiG> Flannel, ty man
[05:52] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: that could be why.  the file won't be deleted until all file handles are closed.
[05:52] <JuhazOne> that's something i'm going to try if nothing else works
[05:52] <Newby> good nkassi
[05:52] <Pelo> JuhazOne   mty trashcan
[05:52] <Newby> im doing hat
[05:52] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: killing/restarting X may just do the trick
[05:52] <nkassi> Newby: tell me if it dosen't work
[05:52] <JuhazOne> dfcarney: really?
[05:52] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: though you should probably figure out *why* the file is 3 GB in size first
[05:52] <JuhazOne> that might a be good idea, too
[05:52] <clearzen> if you pipe a program to ssh do you still use the syntax ssh user@192.168.0.1:/home/whatever?
[05:52] <Newby> and it appears my pc
[05:52] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: yup.
[05:53] <JuhazOne> it was full of "end from FAM server connection" followed by four lines "invalid length 24902".
[05:53] <mzuverink> Newby, you should be able to see the windows xp shares without installing anything with the live cd, just go to places network servers and then windows shares
[05:53] <JuhazOne> that wasn't very helpful imo
[05:53] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: what's not very helpful?
[05:53] <Newby> yes i see it nkassi
[05:53] <nkassi> Newby: good
[05:53] <JuhazOne> dfcarney: the messages in the file
[05:53] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: ah.  what did it say?
[05:53] <compudaze> Intangir, what did you change in initab?
[05:53] <Keyseir> nkassi: Linux headers and build essential were already up to date. For some reason vmware keeps trying to start up Right after I run anything like apt-get in terminal. ANy idea why?
[05:53] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: (please don't cut-and-paste a lot of stuff -- just a line should do)
[05:53] <JuhazOne> dfcarney: it was full of "end from FAM server connection" followed by four lines "invalid length 24902".
[05:53] <Newby> but when i try to open the share mmm "forgot the name" whre are the files
[05:54] <compudaze> sorry, interloper i mean
[05:54] <Newby> mmm sorry forgot the name in english
[05:54] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: well, unless you fix it then you're just going to have the same problem again in a couple of days/weeks
[05:54] <nkassi> Keyseir: hum! weird, it restarts itself ?
[05:54] <ojai> can someone help me to get xine to play mpg/avis in Edgy?  I had it working fine in dapper and I've got w32codecs installed but xine keeps telling me it's trying to use an unsupported codec
[05:54] <JuhazOne> btw if the file handle is still used, should it appear if i do something like du -x / ?
[05:54] <ojai> (already asked on ubuntu+1 but no love)
[05:54] <clearzen> I am trying to backup my system and then ssh the .tar.bz2 file to my server and it keeps telling me "Name or service not known" I don't know what I am doing wrong. Can someone please help me?
[05:54] <Keyseir> nkassi: Yes. And if I don't let it try to replace files I get a dpgk error next time I try to apt-get.
[05:55] <Newby> well but when i try to open it, it appears a windows that says something like "i have to change the name or something like that"
[05:55] <JuhazOne> dfcarney: possibly. but i have no idea what caused the problem in the first place. this is also the first time this has happened
[05:55] <nkassi> Newby: on your desktop there should be an icon or under Places
[05:55] <Keyseir> nkassi: I'm trying to pastebin it but pastebin is being slow for me..
[05:55] <ojai> clearzen: what command are you running?
[05:55] <dfcarney> how long have you been running Ubuntu?  did you upgrade anything recently?
[05:55] <Pelo> JuhazOne  boot in cli and remove the file manualy ?
 the runlevel only its at 3
[05:55] <Newby> mmm let me see
[05:55] <nuked_omen> ubuntu upgrade breaks X
[05:55] <JuhazOne> Pelo: i'll try booting if nothing else works. but i did remove the file using rm
[05:55] <Newby> in my ubuntu desktop ?
[05:55] <clearzen> ojai: I am using tar and then piping it to ssh
[05:56] <Keyseir> brb
[05:56] <nkassi> Keyseir: now I have no clue. never seen anything of the sort. so you used the package for vmware workstation ?
[05:56] <clearzen> I can paste the command if you want
[05:56] <Pelo> JuhazOne   booting in recovery mode would likely make it so that the file is not in use
 but the gdm just loads X anyway
[05:56] <compudaze> edgy or?
[05:56] <compudaze> ahh, so you're loading gdm
[05:56] <nkassi> Newby: should be on the desktop.
[05:56] <compudaze> stop gdm from startup
 dapper
[05:56] <JuhazOne> oh well
[05:56] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: double check to see if something is still using the file by typing "lsof" at the prompt (as the root user)
[05:57] <JuhazOne> i'll try killing x now...
[05:57] <ojai> clearzen: hrm, never done that before -- maybe just use rsync w/ the 'z' option to enable compression?
[05:57] <Newby> aja there is the share file icon
[05:57] <Newby> the share windows file icon
[05:57] <compudaze> update-rc.d -f gdm remove - this should stop gdm from starting up when the pc starts up
[05:57] <JuhazOne> dfcarney: umm. apparently yeah. 56 progs are using it
[05:57] <compudaze> to add it back, update-rc.d gdm defaults
[05:57] <nkassi> Newby: it should ask for a user name an password, click save it to your keyring to keep it for ever
[05:57] <Newby> and when i try to open it it appears a windows that says... letme translate you...
[05:57] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: there you go :)
[05:58] <JuhazOne> yeah :S
[05:58] <clearzen> ojai: I know I have the tar command correct but ssh is giving me errors. If you think rsync would be easier I could try that though.
[05:58] <JuhazOne> all of them are X apps
[05:58] <JuhazOne> of... well, X apps or components
[05:58] <JuhazOne> or
[05:58] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: makes sense.  like I said, the file won't really be deleted until ALL file handles are closed on it.
 im gonna try that one thx a lot i'll be back to let you know if it worked.
[05:58] <Hooveyy> how do i get a wmv codec?
[05:59] <Hooveyy> for the movie player
[05:59] <ojai> if ssh is the one that's giving you errors about name resolution probs, maybe try using the destination hosts's IP addr instead of the host name?
[05:59] <JuhazOne> dfcarney: yup
[05:59] <compudaze> oh well he's gone
[05:59] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: you can restart X with "Ctrl-Alt-Backspace"
[05:59] <ojai> or verify that your name servers are valid
[05:59] <JuhazOne> i know
[05:59] <ojai> but you'd probably have experienced other network probs if your name servers were bad
[06:00] <dfcarney> JuhazOne: as for the FAM errors, I have no idea
[06:00] <Newby> aja nkassi sorri fotr the translation its from altavista.com
[06:00] <compudaze> whats fedora using for 'desktop enhancements'?
[06:00] <Newby> the windows sais "
[06:00] <Newby> 
[06:00] <Newby> Babel Fish Translation   	Help
[06:00] <Newby> In English:
[06:00] <Newby> The file name DOWNERO. indicates that this file is of the type fichero of configuraci?del writing-desk. The content of the file indicates that it is of the type x-directory/smb-share.. If it opens east file?e to podr?representar a risk of security for his system. It does not open the file at least that same you have created it, or she has received it from a reliable source. In order to open the file, ren?relo with extensi?correcta for x-directory/smb-share.,
[06:00] <compudaze> i installed beryl for edgy
[06:00] <Newby>  soon opens the file normally. Alternatively, aplicaci?espec?ca for the file uses opci?.Abrir with of men?ara selecting one."
[06:00] <compudaze> and it works ok
[06:00] <Hooveyy> How do I install a WMV Codec?
[06:00] <Keyseir_> nkassi: Went and restarted. Going to try to install off the vmware site now.
[06:00] <Hooveyy> Where do I get one?
[06:00] <tritium> Newby: please don't paste like that.
[06:00] <ojai> clearzen: but rsync rocks if you haven't used it before
[06:00] <Keyseir_> nkassi: I appreciate your assistance
[06:01] <Newby> verry sorry tritium
[06:01] <Newby> very sorry man
[06:01] <nkassi> Newby: send it to me personally, what language is it in ?
[06:01] <tritium> Newby: no problem.  Next time please use pastebin (see topic).  :)
[06:01] <Madpilot> !mp3 | Hooveyy
[06:01] <ubotu> Hooveyy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:01] <Pelo> Hooveyy   check the ubuntu wiki for  commercial repository,  or what ever it is called
[06:01] <ianmacgregor> !repos | ianmacgregor
[06:01] <ubotu> ianmacgregor: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:01] <nkassi> Keyseir: No probs.
[06:02] <poningru> what is up with the piping??
[06:02] <Keyseir_> nkassi: Don't suppose you could tell me where to try to setup "new" hardware? My sound stopped working too.
[06:02] <clearzen> ojai: Does rsync have a 2gig file size limit?
[06:02] <ianmacgregor> I like that. The bot now uses the intended nick in the factoid.. nice.
[06:02] <ojai> clearzen: not at all
[06:02] <dfcarney> clearzen: i don't think so, but NFS does (doesn't it)?
[06:02] <nkassi> Keyseir: when did it stop working ?
[06:02] <Hooveyy> ah, thanks
[06:02] <clearzen> ojai: could I use cat to transfer my backup in pieces then?
[06:02] <nkassi> Keyseir: Make sure notting is using it.
[06:03] <Newby> and its in spanish i translated to english
[06:04] <Newby> the translate its awfull jaja sorry nkassi
[06:04] <Keyseir_> nkassi: nevermind it's working. After I did dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper I had no GUI, then no sound, then no VMware. I'm a little confused about what's all wrong =D
[06:04] <nkassi> Newby: hum, if you go to network-server under Places, then windows network and then look for you xp box name
[06:04] <Keyseir_> nkassi: I need to reconfigure my screen resolution, too!
[06:04] <dfcarney> clearzen: i believe that tar gives you the ability to split an archive into chunks of a given size
[06:05] <clearzen> dfcarney: that is why I was trying to use tar
[06:05] <Newby> aja it appears the folder of the domine name
[06:05] <nkassi> Keyseir: A dist-upgrade dosen't take into account a lot. Using the Update-manager for that is a lot better. It does some special stuff to prevent that.
[06:05] <ojai> clearzen: not sure what you mean?  if you wanted to back up your /etc/ for example to 192.168.1.2:/usr/local/backup/, you'd do an 'rsync -avz /etc 192.168.1.2:/usr/local/backup'
[06:05] <clearzen> tar -cvpjf /failsafe.tar.bz2 --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/failsafe.tar.bz2 / | ssh taoist@192.168.1.25:/home/taoist "(cat > failsafe.tar.bz2)"
[06:05] <clearzen> that is the command
[06:05] <dfcarney> clearzen: just so i'm clear, you're trying to perform a backup of your system to a remote machine?
[06:05] <Keyseir_> nkassi: Next time I suppose. I asked in here and followed what sounded like the soundest advice was.
[06:06] <clearzen> yes, over ssh
[06:06] <Newby> if i could send you a puicture of my desk for you see it may help, dont it?
[06:06] <nkassi> Keyseir: Hehe, dosen't supprise me ;0)
[06:06] <Keyseir_> nkassi: How do I access the "upgrade manager"?
[06:06] <nkassi> Newby: so you found you xp machine ?
[06:06] <nkassi> system->administration->update-manager
[06:06] <Newby> yes
[06:07] <Newby> i found it, and see all the share folders of the others pc's of the intranet
[06:07] <Keyseir_> nkassi: Which version do I want to download off the vmware site? I don't want to get an "evaluation copy"
[06:07] <Newby> or ethernet
[06:07] <ojai> clearzen: hrm, not sure -- I guess I'm not the best at piping stuff through ssh.  but even though you're specifying an IP addr, it's giving you some host name error messages?
[06:08] <Newby> but when i try to enter in one of the mine, it appears the windows
[06:08] <dfcarney> clearzen: you cannot ssh to "taoist@192.168.1.25:/home/taoist"
[06:08] <clearzen> dfcarney: Why not? how would I do it then?
[06:08] <dfcarney> clearzen: change your command to " tar -cvpjf /failsafe.tar.bz2 --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/failsafe.tar.bz2 / | ssh taoist@192.168.1.25 "(cat > /home/taoist/failsafe.tar.bz2)"
[06:08] <ojai> clearzen: that's true -- maybe just swap out 'ssh' for 'scp'
[06:08] <dfcarney> ojai: right
[06:09] <dfcarney> ojai: i think :)
[06:09] <Keyseir_> nkassi: nvm
[06:09] <Newby> nkassi i son you the picture in png
[06:09] <ojai> I'd still use rsync :)
[06:09] <clearzen> yess it worked
[06:09] <clearzen> thank you
[06:09] <dfcarney> ojai: rsync is nicer, i agree...but it's not as secure (if that's what you're worried about)
[06:09] <clearzen> now to set it as a cron job
[06:09] <ojai> how is rsync not as secure?  it goes over ssh by default now
[06:10] <dfcarney> ojai: does it?  of that i was not aware
[06:10] <nkassi> Newby: didn't get anything.
[06:10] <ojai> hrm, at least I thought it did :)
[06:10] <dfcarney> ojai: you're probably right
[06:10] <clearzen> dfcarney: Where on the remote server is it going to be saved though?
[06:10] <JuhazOne> oops, i ended up rebooting instead of shutting down and killing x :)
[06:11] <JuhazOne> anyway, the file is gone now...
[06:11] <dfcarney> clearzen: as far as i know, in the location specified after the "cat" command\
[06:11] <KevinKid> I am planning to learn a programming language so I can contribute to the Ubuntu community specially applications we can use at school (ESL, EFL.) What's the preferred programming language for Ubuntu? I've read that Python is good for Ubuntu. Is it as easy as Visual Basic?
[06:11] <Hooveyy> WTF
[06:11] <okiaro> hi guys, anybody know a way to split a file into chunks so they can later be reassembled? (eg using rar on windows)
[06:11] <ojai> dfcarney: ah, yeah, checking the man page says that modern rsyncs do use ssh
[06:11] <clearzen> dfcarney: cool, thank you again
[06:11] <nkassi> Newby: can you use the command line ?
[06:11] <tritium> KevinKid: python would be good, yes
[06:11] <Hooveyy> I just ran apt-get install totem-xine and its removing ubuntu desktop
[06:11] <Noia> I have some problems installing Ubuntu
[06:11] <dfcarney> ojai: thanks for looking that up
[06:11] <KevinKid> Ok, then I'm going to learn PYTHON :)
[06:11] <Noia> I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and once the Xserver starts up I loose keyboard and mouse functions
[06:11] <Noia> any ideas?
[06:11] <Newby> i drag and drop into the writte box
[06:11] <tritium> Hooveyy: right, because ubuntu-desktop depends on totem-gstreamer, which conflicts with totem-xine, which you just installed
[06:12] <JuhazOne> but i wonder where did the error msgs come from...
[06:12] <Hooveyy> so,
[06:12] <Hooveyy> ubuntu-desktop is completely gone?
[06:12] <Hooveyy> x is gone?
[06:12] <Hooveyy> its still running O_o
[06:12] <JuhazOne> it wasn't long when i last checked free space on /. must've been within a week
[06:12] <dfcarney> Noai: is it once the Xserver starts, or after the system boots?
[06:12] <defrysk> ubuntu-desktop = a virtual package
[06:12] <tritium> Hooveyy: no, X is not gone.  ubuntu-deskotp is just a metapackage
[06:12] <defrysk> can be removed safely
[06:12] <Newby> sorry for be like an ignorant in the linux :( jeje
[06:12] <Hooveyy> so..
[06:12] <bimberi> relax :)
[06:12] <Hooveyy> if i reboot i will have no gnome?
[06:12] <tritium> Hooveyy: you'll have no troubles, but you'll want to reinstall it before upgrading to edgy
[06:12] <defrysk> no
[06:12] <Hooveyy> ah ok
[06:13] <tritium> Hooveyy: yes, you'll still have gnome
[06:13] <Noia> dfcarney, during boot, when the screen is red before the nice little "Ubuntu" thingy shows up I can move my mouse etc, So I suspect it happens when X or Gnome is starting up...
[06:13] <nkassi> Newby: open a terminal like this : applications->accessories->terminal
[06:13] <defrysk> ubuntu-desktop stands for the default set of packages for gnome on ubuntu
[06:13] <nkassi> Newby: then type : sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:13] <Newby> aja yep
[06:13] <nkassi> Newby: Type your password
[06:13] <defrysk> not in here
[06:14] <krunchi1920> help me please about configuring modem connection in ubuntu
[06:14] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[06:14] <Newby> pasword of what?
[06:14] <Madpilot> !modem | krunchi1920
[06:14] <ubotu> krunchi1920: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[06:14] <nkassi> Newby: type y if it ask you
[06:14] <dfcarney> Noai: hmmm...  have you tried booting in 'single' mode and seeing if the keyboard works at the command prompt?
[06:14] <Newby> in ubuntu i haven any pasword, but in windows yes
[06:14] <Noia> dfcarney, yes...it does
[06:14] <Madpilot> Newby, the user password you created when Ubuntu installed
[06:14] <Newby> login and pasword, but just in windows
[06:14] <wrabbit^> hi guys... I'm trying to install Ubuntu on another machine with an 80gig hdd.  For some reason, when I try to partition it to have a primary / partition, a logical /home partition and a linux swap it won't allow me to do it.  Logical is greyed out and it gives me an error after it has created hda1
[06:15] <Newby> no it was automaticaly intallation of ubuntu
[06:15] <nkassi> Newby: when you installed linux it should have asked for a password. Did you enter nothing >
[06:15] <dfcarney> Noai: hmmmm.  I can't say that I know too much about X (it's been a while since I've written a config file for it)
[06:15] <Noia> dfcarney, the keyboard and mouse can default to standard drivers if the more advanced bluetooth systems arn't available
[06:15] <dfcarney> Noai: but you can check the Xserver logs to see what's up
[06:15] <Madpilot> Newby, you running a LiveCD, you mean?
[06:15] <nkassi> Newby: LiveCD ?
[06:15] <Newby> mmmm let..e.me.... thinkj.,...
[06:15] <Newby> yeah yeah
[06:15] <teledyn> wrabbit^: i would just use fdisk
[06:15] <Noia> dfcarney, I could...if I could move my mouse or use my keyboard :)
[06:15] <Newby> the login its ubuntu and the paswird its nothing
[06:15] <nkassi> Newby: AAAHH!!
[06:16] <Newby> yes the live cd
[06:16] <dfcarney> Noai:  haha.  i assumed that you had a spare keyboard around
[06:16] <wrabbit^> I'll try that now teledyn
[06:16] <nkassi> Anyone knows if the liveCD has samba installed ?
[06:16] <Noia> dfcarney, nope..
[06:16] <Madpilot> Newby, OK. The LiveCD has no password, just to the 'sudo...' command and it'll work
[06:16] <Newby> ha ok
[06:16] <dfcarney> Noai: well, you may have a problem ;)
[06:17] <JuhazOne> oh well. thanks guys.
[06:17] <Digity> hi everyone
[06:17] <Newby> and now i got opend the terminal
[06:18] <Noia> dfcarney, and its Noia not Noai :P you'r not setting off my highlight, hehe
[06:18] <dfcarney> Noia: sorry about that
[06:18] <dfcarney> Noia: have you searched around the web for answers/forums?
[06:18] <Noia> dfcarney, no worries :) now...do you know if I can fiddle with the boot options to get it to work?
[06:18] <nkassi> Newby: then type : sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:19] <dfcarney> Noia: well, if it works before X starts up then you're probably right in that it's a problem with the X config file
[06:19] <Newby> sudo apt-get install smbfs??? this???
[06:19] <Noia> dfcarney, it might also be gnomes fault
[06:19] <Newby> tell me
[06:19] <dfcarney> Noia: it could just be that X is setup to expect a "standard" mouse and keyboard
[06:19] <nkassi> Yep exactly
[06:19] <nicku> Could some one help me with a problem.. how can i change the startup in ubuntu so that is boots up to console not X
[06:19] <nkassi> Newby: "sudo apt-get install smbfs"
[06:20] <wrabbit^> teledyn: done, thanks for the suggestion
[06:20] <Noia> dfcarney, well.. at the moment, the boot sequence goes as follows:
[06:20] <nkassi> Newby: copy paste what is between the quotes
[06:20] <Hooveyy> lol.
[06:20] <Hooveyy> im bord.
[06:20] <Hooveyy> ah crap wrong channel
[06:20] <hilz> hi. i recently installed ubuntu, but i don't seem to find an ssh server installed by default. is there one or do i need to install one?
[06:20] <Gog123> is oracle buying up canonical?
[06:20] <defrysk> yes
[06:21] <nkassi> Gog123: what makes you think that ?
[06:21] <Gog123> because of google news
[06:21] <Noia> dfcarney: Boot loader, booting sequence, Red screen with cursor (at this point I can move the mouse), Ubuntu Logo for Gnome loader shows up (mouse dies here...), Gnome finishes loading and mouse/kb remains dead
[06:21] <tritium> hilz: you need to install openssh-server
[06:21] <Gog123> Ubuntu chief: Oracle Linux has 'tactical value'
[06:22] <Gog123> Shuttleworth, speaking on the eve of the Oracle OpenWorld conference, wouldn't comment on a report that Oracle plans to use Ubuntu Linux or on whether Canonical is working on a partnership.
[06:22] <nkassi> Gog123: woooooooh!
[06:22] <Newby> it appears ; unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:22] <dfcarney> Noia: do you know much about LILO or Grub boot options?
[06:22] <Rookie_> Gog123 - your source for this info is ... ?
[06:22] <Gog123> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Ubuntu_chief_Oracle_Linux_has_tactical_value_/0,130061733,339271800,00.htm
[06:22] <hilz> tritium: thanks. when i install it, does it take care of opening port 22 for it automatically?
[06:22] <Gog123> zdnet australia is one
[06:22] <nkassi> Newby: Yikes, my suggestion is to install ubuntu
[06:22] <Noia> dfcarney, some...but it should be noted, this is the Live CD...I can't acctualy install without the use of my mouse/kb >.<
[06:22] <Newby> jajajaja
[06:22] <Gog123> cnet news is another :
[06:22] <Gog123> http://news.com.com/Ubuntu+chief+Oracle+Linux+has+tactical+value/2100-7344_3-6128259.html
[06:23] <Newby> thick that too!!
[06:23] <Gog123> etc...
[06:23] <boris55> ubuntu won't go commercial will it?
[06:23] <nkassi> Newby: the liveCD is nice but things will work better with a real installation
[06:23] <Newby> you said if with the samnba copuld doit dont you?
[06:23] <krunchi1920> help regarding dialup , wvdial does not do after dialing just only refuses connection after some time. same isp works well with windows xp
[06:23] <withaY> pfft.  maybe a partnership, but elllison has stated many times before in the past that he has no interest in buying a linux distro because he wouldn't have control over intellect. prop.
[06:23] <Gog123> if oracle takes over canonical this could lift ubuntu up
[06:23] <Gog123> as LONG as it remains opensource which it will
[06:24] <Gog123> oracle wants to sell databases :)
[06:24] <dfcarney> Noia: sometimes it doesn't matter.  the bootloader and system can use different drivers (through the BIOS or through the kernel).  Just because a keyboard works at startup doesn't mean that it'll work later on.  perhaps the system tries to switch modes and doesn't realize that it lost support.
[06:24] <tritium> hilz: yes
[06:24] <nkassi> Gog123: I could install it at work then ;0)
[06:24] <Gog123> nkassi:  even if oracle bought up canonical sake of argument, nothing would change
[06:24] <Noia> dfcarney, perhaps
[06:24] <dfcarney> Noia: i don't know much about the LiveCD, however.
[06:24] <nkassi> Newby: Samba can do it.  I use it all the time.
[06:24] <Gog123> except ubuntu would be even better funded :)
[06:24] <maxflax> ok.. ubuntu reinstalled.. soon i'll be a pro on installing linux.. :
[06:24] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:24] <nkassi> Gog123: My boss wouldn't be scared ;-)
[06:24] <dfcarney> Noia: it's a curious problem
[06:25] <boris55> shuttleworth need the money?
[06:25] <Gog123> nkassi with google kicking arse
[06:25] <Noia> dfcarney, do you know if bluetooth is supported in the live CD? or that the gnome packages used in the live CD have the bluetooth extention installed?
[06:25] <Gog123> linux has to be the next thing
[06:25] <dfcarney> Noia: my recommendation: try to boot it with the 'single' boot option and see if the keyboard works and/or get a PS2 or USB keyboard and take a look at the X server logs
[06:25] <Gog123> so some deals and consolidation will likely happen
[06:25] <nkassi> Gog123: It's either Oracle buys cannonical or rereleases RHEL
[06:25] <Newby> the weir thing it that, actually i CAN SEE it the folders of my domine group
[06:25] <Gog123> just how it works
[06:25] <hilz> tritium: thanks, i just installed it and it does seem to work! right after installation! that's amazing! no need to configure anything. Thank you thank you!
[06:25] <Newby> and the shared folders's
[06:25] <Gog123> nkassi:  we shall see
[06:25] <tritium> hilz: :)
[06:26] <dfcarney> noia: i don't know, though bluetooth support is certainly a kernel-level detail.  the gnome stuff likely doesn't care at all...as long as it gets I/O
[06:26] <maxflax> This time.. no tinkering or crap.. first im gonna try is those from hell born.. alsa drivers 1.0.13 may they decendent back to the flames of satans wrath
[06:26] <nkassi> Newby: I admin, it weird. It should just open up and ask for your windows password
[06:26] <`m0> hi what does this mean?
[06:26] <`m0> vpnc: error: deobfuscating of password failed (input not a hex string)
[06:26] <nkassi> Newby: I think it's an issue with the livecd
[06:26] <Gog123> nkassi:  The one good thing is that ubuntu is being more recognized
[06:26] <Noia> dfcarney, thats what I thought but apparently gnome has some bluetooth stuff: http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bluetooth/
[06:26] <nkassi> Newby: I admit, it weird. It should just open up and ask for your windows password
[06:26] <Gog123> so all this publicity is positive
[06:27] <Gog123> cant wait till ubuntu final is out
[06:27] <boris55> ubuntu community has gained critical mass really quickly
[06:27] <dfcarney> noia: ugh.
[06:27] <Vuen> question, how can i defrag my vfat partition?
[06:27] <nkassi> `m0: error in your config i believe
[06:27] <Newby> yeah.. but nothig jeje
[06:27] <tritium> Gog123: you mean "edgy"?  There have been previous releases, you know ;)
[06:27] <boris55> oracle already owns miracle linux.
[06:27] <dfcarney> noia: i really don't know how to help you out with this one...  i haven't touched bluetooth on Linux ever
[06:27] <`m0> nkassi: but what should I lookin my config
[06:27] <Rookie_>   quotes ...that Oracle plans to use Ubuntu Linux or on whether Canonical is working on a partnership....
[06:28] <luisito> hello
[06:28] <maxflax> btw, which is the latest working kernel for ubuntu.. I have 2.6.17-10-386.. but I think I saw 2.6.18-10 somehwere
[06:28] <nkassi> `m0: I think they mean the group password, let me look at my config
[06:28] <luisito> will Edgy Eft be compatible with intel macs?
[06:28] <nkassi> `m0: maybe look at IPSec secret
[06:28] <wickedpuppy> !edgy
[06:28] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:28] <tritium> maxflax, luisito: edgy questions in #ubuntu+1
[06:28] <Noia> dfcarney, well...I can pretty much confirm this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67321
[06:29] <`m0> mkassi: I will look at the sourcecode :p http://svn.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/vpnc/trunk/config.c
[06:29] <`m0> heh
[06:29] <luisito> ok thansk
[06:29] <boris55> i bet oracle gets certified to run on ububtu but it won't be a 100% oracle linux stack.
[06:29] <maxflax> tritium, no one talking in that channel..
[06:29] <nkassi> `m0: It's a cryptic error  I admit.
[06:29] <`m0> why doesn't linux people COMMENT their code
[06:29] <tritium> maxflax: sure there are
[06:29] <nkassi> `m0: it's self documenting ;0)
[06:29] <tritium> maxflax: you're not even in there
[06:30] <dfcarney> noia: ah, well at least a bug was filed about it
[06:30] <maxflax> tritium, always when im in there.. there are alots of quesions but never any answers.. but I can ask there aswell
[06:30] <dfcarney> noia: maybe you should contact "jbebel@jabber.mybox.org" and see if he figured it out
[06:30] <`m0> ret = hex2bin(config[obfuscated] , &bin, &len);
[06:30] <`m0> yea it gets stuck here i guess
[06:31] <dfcarney> noia: i really have no clue...it's the kind of problem that i'd like to debug, but only if i had access to the system
[06:31] <boris55> ubuntu enterprise linux right around the corner?
[06:31] <Vaske_Car> how to install package with .package extension?
[06:31] <Noia> dfcarney: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/32415 <-- has a work around in one of the comments
[06:32] <nkassi> `m0: I wonder what obfuscated stand for
[06:32] <NewRhyme> Hey...does anyone know about MPLayer's lib files, needed for dapper?
[06:32] <Noia> now, if I can prevent the bluez libs from loading at start up, then this should work fine
[06:32] <martynda> hi, i can't get mod_php5 to load with apache, can someone help me out? when i click on a php file on localhost, it wants to download it
[06:32] <dfcarney> noia: nice
[06:32] <wickedpuppy> nkassi, you got to see obfuscated c contest then
[06:33] <nkassi> martynda: which apache version ?
[06:33] <martynda> 2
[06:33] <Vuen> question, is there a utility in ubuntu to defrag a vfat partition?
[06:33] <nkassi> wickedpuppy: I love being sane ;0)
[06:33] <`m0> http://www.google.com/search?q=define:obfuscated
[06:33] <martynda> i do have libapache2-mod-php5
[06:33] <`m0> the comp is confused ;)
[06:33] <dfcarney> noia: probably not too hard.  it's likely started somewhere under /etc/init.d
[06:33] <jman_> would anyone be willing to take a second to help me out with Samba?
[06:33] <Vaske_Car> .package  how to install?
[06:33] <Rookie_> Vuen - nope
[06:33] <dfcarney> jman_: just post your question -- if people can help, they will :)
[06:34] <Vuen> alright then. looks like i'll be rebooting into windows :/
[06:34] <jman_>  I have samba configured as a PDC but whenever I try to join the domain it says it can't find the username on the domain even though I already created the user using smbpasswd, am I missing something here?
[06:34] <nkassi> check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[06:34] <boris55> so 10/26 we can talk about edgy here?
[06:34] <nkassi> martynda: check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[06:34] <tritium> boris55: yes, when it's released
[06:34] <jman_> I also created the root user using smbpasswd -a
[06:34] <Rookie_> linux has no need for defrag (just read about why) so there is no utility developed
[06:34] <Tomcat_> Rookie_: Why, anyway? :)
[06:34] <Rookie_> io addressing
[06:35] <jman_> #samba
[06:35] <boris55> thanks tritium.
[06:35] <Tomcat_> Rookie_: Any website? I'd like to know details...
[06:35] <Rookie_> just google it - its about how a hdd is built and how a filesystem works
[06:35] <martynda> nkassi: is there supposed to be a php.load or something in there?
[06:36] <Rookie_> microsoft has volumes, linux har partitions
[06:36] <Tomcat_> Rookie_: Thanks.
[06:36] <dfcarney> Rookie_: i can't see why, say, EXT3 couldn't defrag...
[06:36] <nkassi> martynda: hum, there should be a line in mods-available, I think you need to add it to mods-enabled
[06:36] <dfcarney> Rookie_: i just googled it and found an active project for an EX3 defrag app
[06:37] <Newby> nkassi the ubuntu it good
[06:37] <nkassi> martynda: scratch that
[06:37] <Newby> it my very firt time thta im ising the ubuntu and ith very veryu good
[06:37] <nkassi> Newby: sorry, I didn't understand that.
[06:37] <dfcarney> Rookie_: doesn't defragging a hard disk simply move allocated blocks to the start of the partition?
[06:37] <Rookie_> linux puts the files in a specific sector on the hdd, and then address it and it wont move the file either
[06:37] <Vaske_Car> I downloaded software with ".package" extension, how to install it? In Debian I used dpkg - i but it does not work with Ubuntu...
[06:37] <nkassi> Newby: Glad you like it.
[06:37] <tritium> Vaske_Car: dpkg does not install .package files, even on debian
[06:38] <Vaske_Car> hmm
[06:38] <dfcarney> Rookie_: ah, i see what you're talking about.
[06:38] <dfcarney> Rookie_: i'll read up on it.  thanks.
[06:38] <nkassi> martynda: so you said you installed libapache2-php5 ?
[06:38] <tnnc> is there an wat to tell what my video card is it is onboard one
[06:39] <martynda> nkassi: yes, there is a mods-avaliable with php5.load in there
[06:39] <Vaske_Car> tritium, it was for .deb files, sorry. Do you know what does install .package on Ubuntu?
[06:39] <IcemanV9> tnnc: lspci
[06:39] <dfcarney> Rookie_: wait a minute...defrag is still useful for linux file systems
[06:39] <bimberi> tnnc: lspci | grep VGA
[06:40] <tritium> Vaske_Car: nope.  What are you trying to install?
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> tririum, xaraextreme.org
[06:40] <nkassi> martynda: try copying it to mods-enabled and then restarting apache2
[06:40] <dfcarney> Rookie_: think about it: if i want to guarantee that all of my data is written to a consecutive series of sectors (closest to sector 0 of the disk) then i'd need to have an application that could move data around...
[06:40] <tritium> Vaske_Car: that's packaged up as a .deb in edgy
[06:41] <nkassi> martynda: oh and make sure php5 is installed
[06:41] <tritium> Vaske_Car: if you upgrade to edgy, when it's released as stable in 4 days, you'll be able to install it via apt-get or synaptic
[06:41] <dfcarney> Rookie_: the problem is common to both Windows FAT and Linux EXT file systems, isn't it?
[06:41] <tnnc> icemanv9 thanks
[06:42] <nkassi> martynda: try sudo a2enmod php5
[06:42] <Rookie_> dfcarney - you mean when a new prog/app will be installed and the hdd begining to be full ? thats not a problem ... the system will move the file and make space if its necessery - but only when the hdd begins to be full (bevlieve it is 90%)
[06:42] <IcemanV9> tnnc: yw :)
[06:42] <martynda> nkassi: it's enabled, but still tries to dl the php file
[06:42] <Vaske_Car> tritium, I do not want to upgrade again and reconfigure all my stuff :(
[06:42] <Vaske_Car> tritium, just spent day doing that  :)
[06:42] <Rookie_> dfcarney - nope, never been a problem in linux or unix .... wonder why ;) ?
[06:42] <tnnc> icemanv9 it shows it as an cirrus logic GD 5480  the res is only 800x600 is there an way to change this
[06:42] <tritium> Vaske_Car: upgrading doesn't require reconfiguring
[06:42] <defrysk> Vaske_Car, http://autopackage.org/ for explanation .package is not supported by ubuntu
[06:42] <martynda> nkassi: nm, works now, thanks a lot for your help
[06:43] <nkassi> martynda: great.
[06:43] <IcemanV9> !resolution > tnnc
[06:43] <dfcarney> Rookie_: i'm simply saying that there are uses for applications that can "defrag" a Linux partition.  for instance, if you wanted to split it in two then you want to guarantee that your data is in a big block at the beginning (or end)
[06:43] <dfcarney> Rookie_: please, enlighten me :)  i'm curious
[06:44] <nkassi> Good night folks.
[06:44] <Rookie_> this is far OT :) and its way to early in the morning (6:40 am)
[06:44] <nkassi> Or day for the non Eastern time zone folks.
[06:44] <bimberi> !away > jack_wyt
[06:45] <dfcarney> Rookie_: fair enough, though I reserve the right to say that I don't believe your claims :)  That said, I'll look into it for myself.
[06:45] <tritium> j_ack: please disable that
[06:45] <Rookie_> up to you to belive or not ...
[06:46] <tnnc> icemanv9 yes resolution is only 800x600 and i wondering if i can get it better and how
[06:46] <dfcarney> Rookie_: yup, but it's up to people making claims to support them.
[06:46] <IcemanV9> tnnc: read what ubotu just send (about resolution) in pm
[06:47] <dfcarney> Rookie_: anyhow, thanks for the insight.  i'll read up on it.  have a good night.
[06:47] <tnnc> icemanv9 not sure how to do that where is find it
[06:47] <IcemanV9> !resolution
[06:47] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:48] <IcemanV9> tnnc: last sentence should do the trick :)
[06:48] <Vaske_Car> tritium, i downloaded diferent package, in unpacked folder I have folders: BIN, MIME-STORAGE, SHARE... is it possible to install with this?
[06:48] <tnnc> icemanv9 thanks
[06:48] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to apt-get, and I'm getting an error that it can't open the lock file, can't lock the administration directory, am i root?
[06:49] <dfcarney> Geoffrey2: well, how are you running the command?  as root?  are you using 'sudo'?
[06:49] <tritium> Vaske_Car: sorry, I can't help you with .package files.  Again, xara is in edgy.  Please consider upgrading
[06:49] <IcemanV9> sudo apt-get
[06:49] <Rookie_> dfcarney - heres a good description - http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[06:50] <wrabbit^>  sudo apt-get install a bullet in my head
[06:50] <Geoffrey2> sudo....d'oh!
[06:50] <wrabbit^> I wish there weren't so many distros to choose from
[06:52] <jbmigel_> wrabbit^ ubuntu is a pretty good pick are you just getting started with linux?
[06:52] <IcemanV9> now, you don't have to, wrabbit^. ubuntu is it. :)
[06:52] <chewy> hi
[06:52] <wrabbit^> jbmigel_: I've been playing with linux for a month or so now. I have Kanotix on this machine and Ubuntu on my other.  Zenwalk on the laptop.
[06:52] <wrabbit^> Just too many to play with
[06:53] <wrabbit^> and I never get any work done cos I'm downloading and getting distros setup. :
[06:53] <chewy> is there any way i can run a program on a kernel event
[06:53] <dfcarney> Rookie_: that doesn't address one of the benefits of defragging a hard disk :)  Sure, defragging a disk helps performance (in Windows), but it also tends to move all of the allocated blocks to the beginning of the partition/block/whatever.  If I want to split the partition then I need to do this.
[06:53] <chewy> like every time iptables posts an event, run a prog
[06:53] <Rookie_> not if u use lvm
[06:53] <dfcarney> Rookie_: So, for performance reasons Linux does not need a defragger, but if you want to split a partition then you do.
[06:53] <ESPOiG> is there a way to edit files with vi or something while in grub
[06:53] <JaytheGreat> hey guys
[06:54] <jbmigel_> wrabbit^ i played around with most of them for about a year. then i got tired of installing/reinstalling all the time, now i just use ubuntu and automatix and have working sys in 30mins
[06:54] <wrabbit^> ESPOiG: Not sure but try pressing 5 when the grub menu comes up
[06:54] <dfcarney> Rookie_: haha.  how many people use LVM nowadays? :)
[06:54] <phire> If I have a folder of deb's on my computer, can I set it up as a repo for apt-get
[06:54] <ESPOiG> wrabbit^, thx
[06:54] <dfcarney> Rookie_: anyhow, this is totally off topic
[06:54] <Vaske_Car> tritium, installed :) - had just to install imagemagick in order to be able to run xara
[06:54] <Flannel> jbmigel_, wrabbit^,don't recommend automatix here.
[06:54] <dfcarney> Rookie_: i'm willing to bet that NOBODY uses VFAT over LVM for their Linux environment :)
[06:54] <akant2> do any of you use iFolder in production?
[06:54] <wrabbit^> I don't use automatix but I don't see anything wrong with it.
[06:54] <IcemanV9> !automatix
[06:54] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[06:54] <wrabbit^> ESPOiG: it may not work but try.
[06:55] <chewy> so is it possible?
[06:55] <Flannel> wrabbit^: it breaks peoples systems beyond repair
[06:55] <chewy> that every time my iptables wall makes a log for me to get some code running
[06:55] <chewy> with the info in the event
[06:55] <bh_> Anybody know what the status of etch is yet ?
[06:55] <Flannel> bh_: you might try #debian
[06:55] <talios> hola - has anyone here had issues with mounting an ipod under edgy?  I just noticed it no longer gets mounted ('no configuration chosen from 1 choice' shown in logs)
[06:56] <wrabbit^> Flannel: Nothing is beyond repair. :)
[06:56] <talios> (not sure if edgy discussion is valid here tho..?)
[06:56] <Flannel> wrabbit^: no, automatix makes things beyond repair
[06:56] <crimsun> mark, #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <Flannel> talios: you'd be better off asking in #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <talios> crimsun: ah yeh...  cheers
[06:56] <wrabbit^> jbmigel_: I know how that is.  I just want something that works. So Ubuntu, Kanotix and Zenwalk(most of the time) all work for me.  I'm just tempted to try others like SuSe and Fedora
[06:56] <wrabbit^> Flannel: sounds scary
[06:56] <jbmigel_> Flannel i think that bashing something is worse than recommending it
[06:57] <wrabbit^> hehe
[06:57] <JaytheGreat> my ubuntu freezes almost every time i use it :-(
[06:57] <Flannel> jbmigel_: it's not bashing, it's being honest.
[06:57] <wrabbit^> Flannel: has somebody addressed this problem?
[06:57] <jbmigel_> Flannel well it worked wonders for me the first time, that is me being honest
[06:57] <Flannel> !worksforme
[06:58] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:58] <Vaske_Car> is there a way how to increase default toolbar size and font size for using Ubuntu with high resolutions
[06:58] <jbmigel_> Flannel ubuntu works for me
[06:58] <Vaske_Car> like DPI setting in Windows
[06:58] <bh_> Where can I get information on the next major release of Ubuntu ?
[06:58] <Flannel> wrabbit^: it's not an ubuntu product, we have no control over it.
[06:58] <IcemanV9> !schedule
[06:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:58] <bh_> particularly the more experimental branches
[06:58] <wrabbit^> Flannel: No I mean, has anybody confronted the developers.  Via email or whatever
[06:58] <bh_> thanks
[06:59] <wrabbit^> and are they doing anything about it
[06:59] <Keyseir_> nkassi: You there?
[06:59] <Flannel> wrabbit^: we can talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:59] <wrabbit^> Yep, sorry. Didn't mean to go off topic in support
[07:00] <Keyseir_> What are C headers and how do I install them?
[07:00] <Keyseir_> A vmware installation script isn't finding them in the default place.
[07:00] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: as in "kernel headers" ?
[07:00] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:00] <Keyseir_> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[07:00] <poningru> !java
[07:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:00] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[07:01] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: C headers are just "header files" -- they contain the interface information for function calls, global variable definitions, etc...  when compiling a C program the compiler needs to refer to them to figure out where stuff it.
[07:01] <dfcarney> Keyseir): ... stuff *is
[07:01] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I already have the correct linux-headers installed
[07:02] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: does /usr/src/linux/include exist?
[07:02] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: actually, what directories are under /usr/src/linux ?
[07:03] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: /linux doens't exist. "linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386  translucency.tar.bz2
[07:03] <Keyseir_> " are under /usr/src/
[07:03] <|thunder> Sweet. New Venture Bros is on.
[07:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys where is the kernel source for ubuntu?  I am trying to install the beta drivers for nvidia card and it cannot find the kernel source?
[07:04] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: what's under linux-headers-2.6.12-10 ?  is that the kernel that you're currently using?
[07:04] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: uname -r = 2.6.15-27-386 , but when I ran apt-get install for those linux headers it said it was the latest version..
[07:05] <JaytheGreat> does anybody know why my ubuntu freezes sometimes and can never properly shut down?
[07:05] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: hmmmm.
[07:05] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: Oh wait, something changed
[07:05] <ArrenLex> Keyseir: AFAIK you don't need the kernel source to build drivers; only the headers.
[07:05] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: well, you could try and create a soft-link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10... and see what happens (but that's an evil hack)
[07:06] <Keyseir_> drcarney: Now it says it isn't installed, so I'm installing the new linux headers. I sweared a minute ago I ran something for that and it was new
[07:06] <jonkelle> Hi all.  Does anyone know of a repository containing OOo2.0.4 for Dapper?  I'm going to wait about a day before I alien it in.  But I would prefer to point apt a good repository.
[07:06] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: ok.
[07:06] <cyber> im starting to enjoy linux now but any way
[07:06] <ArrenLex> jonkelle: you can download debs for it from the openoffice site... hold on, let me find it...
[07:06] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: Sorry to ask for help with something I must have missed.
[07:06] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: no problem.  we've all been there :)
[07:06] <IcemanV9> JaytheGreat: you may want to check the syslog or dmesg for some clues
[07:06] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone?
[07:06] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: =)
[07:06] <omac> JaytheGreat...I have seen ubuntu seem to freeze at shutdown when you have external usb drives on and not ejected/unmounted.  If you do wait, it eventually unmounts and shuts down gracefully.  If you don't like the delay, unmount/eject the external usb drives.
[07:07] <dfcarney> jonkelle: you could change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to backports.org...
[07:07] <JaytheGreat> I don't have any usb drives
[07:07] <cyber> hmm
[07:07] <cyber> 209mb of update's
[07:07] <dfcarney> jonkelle: they've got OOo2.x for Debian sarge... they may have a port for Ubuntu
[07:07] <cyber> is what i get thismorning
[07:07] <cyber> i dont know if i should update or not
[07:07] <oxdot> anybody ever heard about a generic driver for a panasonic (kx-p7100 - win) laser printer ?
[07:08] <cyber> my bro might get a little irratated
[07:08] <JaytheGreat> IcemanV9, how do I check my syslog or dmesg? i'm on XP now anyway
[07:08] <Vaske_Car> where to read new stuff implemented into Edgy??
[07:08] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I'm glad I went with ubuntu opposed to say, Debian. Ubuntu IRC support > Debian IRC support... by a fucking long shot
[07:08] <cyber> !language
[07:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:08] <cyber> :P
[07:08] <jonkelle> I was wondering if there was a backports site with 2.0.4 on it already.
[07:08] <Keyseir_> Doh.
[07:08] <IcemanV9> JaytheGreat: /var/log/syslog and type "dmesg" in the terminal
[07:08] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: yup.  I learned Linux on Debian...thankfully, I had a couple of friends who started with Slackware, so they knew the ropes.
[07:08] <JaytheGreat> thanks
[07:09] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I need to make myself learn more. Ubuntu is too easy on me.
[07:09] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: haha.  that's the point, isn't it?
[07:09] <[BTF] Chm0d> can anyone tell me where the kernel source files are located for ubuntu?  nvidia drivers cannot find them?
[07:09] <jbmigel_> Keyseir_ gentoo is a good learning distro
[07:09] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: But whenever I have a problem I have to come crying to this channel
[07:09] <dfcarney> [BTF] Chm0d: you likely need to install them
[07:09] <JaytheGreat> I'm still having trouble installing programs on linux
[07:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> they have been installed
[07:10] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: That's no good.
[07:10] <JaytheGreat> ie Flash, or any program for that matter
[07:10] <IcemanV9> !flash
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:10] <noia> dfcarney: I got it working
[07:10] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: well, there are tonnes of books about Linux out there.  O'Reilly is a good place to start
[07:10] <cyber> wouldnt sudo apt-get install flash get it???
[07:10] <JaytheGreat> I've read all the methods to install flash, but none of them work
[07:10] <cyber> i dont know im new to this :/
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> JaytheGreat, you got problem typing sudo apt-get install programname ?
[07:10] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: nods
[07:10] <dfcarney> noia: good work -- promotions all around!
[07:10] <JaytheGreat> I always get an error
[07:11] <noia> dfcarney: apparently what happens is that there is a problem in bluez.util. when it runs its HCI restart script, my bluetooth hub freezes...
[07:11] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Should I direct this to my newly created linux headers dir?
[07:11] <cyber> JaytheGreat, open synaptic & find flash :P
[07:11] <ArrenLex> jonkelle: no, can't find it. Nevermind.
[07:11] <JaytheGreat> then I did another method: i did one of those tricks "mk dir mozilla" (or whatever it is) and tried to get Firefox to install flash for me, but i still got an error
[07:11] <dfcarney> noia: ah, interesting
[07:11] <noia> dfcarney: was a simple task of restarting in and then removing bluez
[07:11] <omac> Jaythegreat: cp flash* /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/;cp libflash* /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[07:11] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: yeah, try that.  if that fails, i suggest creating a soft-link yourself.
[07:11] <JaytheGreat> ok guys I'm gonna boot into ubuntu so i can try this
[07:11] <cyber> kk
[07:11] <cyber> any way
[07:12] <rbil> Keyseir, ok, if it's so easy for you, you can probably help me. I'm building a NAS server. It will be using external USB hard drives that will be constantly attached and unattached from the box. Since this is a server box, no X anywhere in site, the drives will automount thanks to udev. BUT, we don't want to have to worry about what USB port a particular drive is plugged into and we want a fstab that will always be correct regardless of the 
[07:12] <rbil> ome udev rules are in order. Good approach?
[07:12] <Cyber_School> ill see you later on
[07:12] <Cyber_School> i need to actually get an education
[07:12] <Keyseir_> rbil: What I was trying to say is that everyday operating is so easy that whenever I have a problem I am unprepared. Read: I need to make myself learn more about linux because ubuntu isn't forcing me too very often.
[07:13] <rbil> Keyseir, well I thought I'd force you a bit. :-)
[07:13] <tnnc> can someone suggest an video card to use with 6.06 but not an high end card
[07:14] <Keyseir_> rbil: Yar.
[07:14] <Keyseir_> rbil: So uh, what does NAS mean? ;-)
[07:14] <rbil> haha
[07:14] <noia> could anyone recomend a decent terminal font?
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> has anyone here tried to BitTorrent download OpenOffice.org?
[07:15] <lampshade> does democracy player fail really hard for anyone else in dapper or just me?  Like doesn't play videos.  Locks up frequently, etc?
[07:15] <wickedpuppy> i have ... why ?
[07:15] <wickedpuppy> lampshade, vlc ...
[07:16] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[07:16] <Keyseir_> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386" is an existing directory, but itdoes not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[07:16] <lampshade> wickedpuppy: vlc interacts with Democracy's stuff?  or am I going to be manually downloading lots and stuff?
[07:16] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: And then it's back to the original prompt. Should I look into that "soft link" thing?
[07:16] <Geoffrey2> I'd like to download the two Open Office .iso files, but they're only available via BitTorrent, and I've never used BitTorrent before
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> lampshade, no no .. vlc is a video player ... which i recommend ...
[07:17] <dfcarney> Ah, how about " /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386/include" ?
[07:17] <Vaske_Car> wow first time in my life I have everything in Linux and do not need Windows no more :)
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> Geoffrey2, welcome to the internet :P
[07:17] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: hold on...lemme check something out.
[07:18] <ner> Could you tell me normal keyboard layot switcher for KDE? =)
[07:18] <lampshade> wickedpuppy: right, and democracy is MORE than a video player.  That's my point.  I hate when people recommend a solution that's not a solution.  It is like asking for a web browser and someone responding with wget.....  yeah sure wget download webpages... but it isnt' the same.  (I also already frequently use VLC which is why I asked if there was some way I didn't know about where it did the job of subscribing, etc that democracy
[07:18] <lampshade> did)
[07:18] <wickedpuppy> lampshade, my apology ...
[07:18] <Corporal_Dirge> Ok, I can't take this anymore. Whenever I'm browsing through a folder with a .swf file Nautilus crashes.
[07:18] <JaytheGreat> and ubuntu froze again...................
[07:18] <whyso> thats odd i played a song in VLC, and closed it but the song goes on :)
[07:19] <RancidLM> hey all i accedently deleted a backup on one of my servers.. nothing to important was lost but is there a way to recover something thats been deleted on a ext3 partition (i think)?
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> nope i can't help you with democracy player there
[07:19] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: Bingo on the /include =D
[07:19] <crimsun> whyso: known issue for Dapper's wxvlc.
[07:19] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: ah, good
[07:19] <wickedpuppy> lampshade, i also did not know you used vlc before and so on ... again my apologies
[07:19] <ArrenLex> RancidLM: no, there is no way to recover files deleted from ext3 partitions; they are overwritten pretty thoroughly.
[07:20] <whyso> crimsun: any fix?
[07:20] <wickedpuppy> whyso, killall wxvlc ... thats normally how i solve that problem
[07:20] <RancidLM> ArrenLex: thats what i was a fraid of.. thnx!
[07:20] <lampshade> wickedpuppy: sorry, I kinda flipped out there too--just frustrated with lockups and such from this program you know
[07:20] <whyso> wickedpuppy: k thanx
[07:20] <dfcarney> ArrenLex: well, you can always try to read the raw bits from recently de-allocated inodes, but that will drive you crazy
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Rancid: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html#undelete (if you don't believe me)
[07:21] <omac> JayTheGreat:  How long has it been since you cleaned the insides of your computer i.e. your cpu fans, power supply fans, graphics card fans.
[07:21] <crimsun> whyso: it's already fixed in Edgy's
[07:21] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: Whoa, we appear to be running vmware!
[07:21] <RancidLM> how can i tell what partition is a drive in a shell prompt
[07:21] <JaytheGreat> MY case is off now but XP never freezes
[07:21] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: good stuff
[07:22] <mnepton> RancidLM: df -h
[07:22] <JaytheGreat> my case doesn't have much dust in it... it's a bran new hard drive
[07:22] <wickedpuppy> JaytheGreat, xp never freezes cause it crashes ... jk jk :P
[07:22] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I think I learned some things along the way, but thanks to your and nkassi's advice I haven't had to bang my head against the wall too much.
[07:22] <Squirrels> how do i make transparent terminals
[07:23] <RancidLM> mnepton: thats what i thought but its just showing me mount points and size rather then the fomrated filesystem type
[07:23] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: yeah, messing around with build issues (related to headers, kernel stuff, etc...) is pretty painful
[07:23] <noia> what are some security measures I can take to secure my ubuntu install?
[07:23] <rbil> RancidLM, fdisk -l
[07:23] <JaytheGreat> I wonder why ubuntu freezes...
[07:23] <mnepton> RancidLM: sudo fdisk -l
[07:24] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: do you have power-management enabled in the BIOS?  Sometimes, that can cause startup/shutdown issues
[07:24] <wickedpuppy> noia, you can shutdown unnecessary services and so on and on.. google for linux security .. also get bastille if you are paranoid
[07:24] <omac> JayTheGreat: ok so, what were your last actions on the mouse and keyboard when your computer froze.  Please confirm your cpu, gpu, box fans are all dust-free.  I don't care about your new hard drive.
[07:24] <RancidLM> mnepton: ok thnx!
[07:24] <JaytheGreat> ok let me check
[07:24] <JaytheGreat> about the dust
[07:24] <noia> wickedpuppy: hmm
[07:25] <noia> wickedpuppy: you wouldn't happen to know anything about XGL would you?
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> noia, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:25] <noia> ah
[07:25] <Squirrels> how do i get transparent terminals?
[07:25] <tnnc> anyone can suggest an cheap video card that woks good in ubuntu
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> noia, i did try it with sled 10 ... not with ubuntu
[07:25] <Rookie_> tnnc - riva tnt2
[07:25] <BlingBling> ..
[07:26] <dfcarney> tnnc: any nVidia or ATI card that's 2+ years old
[07:26] <JaytheGreat> well, there are small amounts of dust but nothing major
[07:26] <wickedpuppy> i suggest nvidia ...
[07:26] <oxdot> tnnc : whats the purpose of the card ? Desktop ?
[07:26] <rbil> tnnc, you want cheap, get a 16MB Matrox G400 - it'll have to be used and sold around ebay for like $10
[07:26] <mnepton> tnnc: where are you geographically?
[07:27] <mnepton> rbil: that's funny. i asked about his location because Tiger Direct in Canada has the G450 dual-head for $2.99 new :)
[07:27] <rbil> haha
[07:27] <tnnc> mnepton i am in usa in TN
[07:27] <rbil> ok, bidding on ebay might push up the price
[07:27] <Geoffrey2> ok, I see the BIttorrent version in the repos is out of date, can I get a newer version through the repos or do I download the version from bittorrent's website?
[07:27] <mnepton> tnnc: let's see if TigerDirect in the USA can hook you up
[07:28] <mnepton> HOLY ..... !!!
[07:28] <mnepton> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1755113&sku=TC3H-1041
[07:28] <wickedpuppy> Geoffrey2, get ktorrent or azureus ... i used both and they are both damn good ... azureus got java slowness
[07:28] <mnepton> that's ... insane.
[07:28] <JaytheGreat> is the small amount of dust causing my ubuntu to lock up?? is this related to the fact that I can never properly shut down?
[07:28] <rbil> mnepton, maybe I'll order half a dozen. great card for 2d Linux. Nice dual monitors.
[07:28] <mcquaid> hello, i had an old pci card and now put in a nvidia card
[07:28] <mnepton> rbil: check that URL
[07:28] <rbil> I'm in Canada
[07:28] <mcquaid> i ran the dpkg xorg-server reconfigure thing and everything seemed to go ok
[07:28] <jbmigel_> JaytheGreat have you tried running the memtest from grub?
[07:28] <mnepton> rbil: and prepare to change your pants.
[07:29] <JaytheGreat> no, but I did it before once
[07:29] <mcquaid> but it asked me about the busid and it still defaulted to the old card instead of agp
[07:29] <mnepton> rbil: just hot up tigerdirect.ca and search for "matrox" (it's the only product they have)
[07:29] <JaytheGreat> and cancelled it halfway through. I couldn't understand any of it
[07:29] <mnepton> *hit up
[07:29] <tnnc> are not those cards apg
[07:29] <dfcarney> jbigmel_: odds are that it's not a memory problem if it only happens on shutdown.  my guess is that the kernel is trying to shut down the system with a call to the power management layer in the BIOS.
[07:29] <mcquaid> wasn't sure of the syntax to indicate agp, and I checked in dmesg and agpgart is loaded so it probably doesn't make a difference but I'd like to set it properly
[07:30] <jbmigel_> JaytheGreat maybe try letting it run once, if you have a bad ram stick it will find it
[07:30] <dfcarney> jbigmel_: i've seen the problem before; it happened to me for a while too.
[07:30] <mnepton> tnnc: yes, they are agp
[07:30] <mcquaid> also it asked me the amount of memory in KB of my card and I just hit enter, was is the syntax for this in xorg.conf?
[07:30] <rbil> nice price :-)
[07:30] <JaytheGreat> my computer also randomly freezes quite often
[07:30] <BlongGee> Is Linux worth the learning curve
[07:30] <Geoffrey2> wickedpuppy, if I install ktorrent, should I take out the bittorrent client?
[07:30] <tnnc> ok minbe doesnt have an slot for one of those
[07:30] <mnepton> rbil: no kidding, eh? the americans get them *free*.
[07:30] <mcquaid> I'd like to still enter it, again not sure if it helps
[07:30] <tnnc> as i think i have one of those here somewhere
[07:30] <jbmigel_> BlongGee no i would suggest you give up learning anything and become a potato
[07:30] <rbil> BlongGee, is dating a girl for a month, spending money on lunches, sending her flowers, worth it?
[07:30] <mcquaid> JaytheGreat, my brothers machine kept freezing and it turns out it was an acpi issue
[07:30] <omac> BlonGee: yes emphatically.
[07:30] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: ah, well then...could be the disk controller too.  in that case, jbigmel_'s suggestion makes total sense -- check the RAM
[07:31] <JaytheGreat> what's acpi?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> BlongGee: a linux IRC channel is not the most unbiased place to ask that.
[07:31] <mnepton> tnnc: good luck. PCI video cards are few and far between. you might be able to find a TNT2.
[07:31] <mcquaid> he turned that off and no more crashes, no clue what your issue is though but could help
[07:31] <ArrenLex> I have a PCI video card. I hate it.
[07:31] <JaytheGreat> dfcarney, you're suggesting I do a memory test under grub?
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Stupid ATI. Can't make it work with 3d.
[07:31] <mcquaid> there is a pci version of the fx5500 i think
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Trade you.
 no woman ain't worth it lol
[07:31] <rbil> well Ubuntu is worth it
[07:32] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: ACPI -- Advanced Configuration and Power Interface.  There's also APM -- Advanced Power Management
[07:32] <JaytheGreat> ok
[07:32] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: but, yeah, a memtest is a good place to start
[07:32] <BlongGee> nice anology tho
[07:32] <ArrenLex> rbil & BlongGee: I find it absolutely hilarious that you are comparing installing Linux to having a girlfriend. And not surprised.
[07:32] <JaytheGreat> how do yall get so profecient
[07:32] <JaytheGreat> ok guys, i'm going to reboot and do a mem test. what should I be looking out for?
[07:32] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: experience is a good teacher
[07:32] <mcquaid> JaytheGreat, before doing a memtest disable acpi
[07:33] <Rookie_> Linux does what you tell it to do, a girlfrined have their own will ...
[07:33] <JaytheGreat> ok, how do i do that?
[07:33] <mcquaid> a memtest takes hours
[07:33] <rbil> anyone who gets into GNU/Linux in a serious way, won't have a girlfriend for long
[07:33] <mnepton> ArrenLex / tnnc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150064
[07:33] <tnnc> thanks to all who reply
[07:33] <dfcarney> mcquaid: i'm curious, why do you want him to disable it before the memtest?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Rookie_: if only Linux did what you told it to do. Then none of us would be here.
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[07:33] <Rookie_> hehe, true
[07:33] <bug> i have a quick suggestion/gripe, if anyone here has anything to do with the ubuntu wiki....
[07:34] <Troy_McClure> anyone able to help answer a question for me?
[07:34] <JaytheGreat> memtest takes hours??? :-(
[07:34] <BlongGee> if my box had a vagina I wouldnt need woman.....can linux provide?
[07:34] <omac> JayTheGreat...don't do the memtest...the fact you made the ubuntu run...your mem is ok...it's something else..maybe ACPI disabled is a good bet.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> mneopton: but that, ah, costs... what is it called... money.
[07:34] <dfcarney> mcquaid: memtest certainly won't make a BIOS call to activate APM or ACPI
[07:34] <mcquaid> because one is much quicker, and I've known a few users with acpi issues and bad ram is pretty rare
[07:34] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: yup.  count on 1-2 hours
[07:34] <mcquaid> ok maybe I missed something your getting random lockups right?
[07:34] <Troy_McClure> does the fglrx drivers support an r480? the dri wiki isn't to clear on it
[07:34] <JaytheGreat> yes, random lock ups
[07:34] <mcquaid> ok one sec
[07:34] <ArrenLex> BlongGee: yes. http://www.fu-fme.com/
[07:34] <dfcarney> mcquaid: oh, for sure.  acpi problems are much more common
[07:35] <mcquaid> exactly
[07:35] <mcquaid> ok JaytheGreat do this
[07:35] <JaytheGreat> ok
[07:35] <rbil> JaytheGreat, Linux so very rarely has these problems, I'd look at hardware probs before anything else
[07:35] <mcquaid> launch a terminal, cd /boot/menu
[07:35] <omac> JayTheGreat:  you said the lockups occurred after you started the shutdown....that's not random.
[07:35] <mcquaid> sorry cd /boot/grub
[07:35] <JaytheGreat> no, they occur randomly and also after i hit shut down
[07:35] <dfcarney> mcquaid: i thought that you meant "disable ACPI in the BIOS and run the memtest", as opposed to "try booting after disabling ACPI, if that fails run a memtest".
[07:36] <mcquaid> yes and shutdown stuff sounds like acpi
[07:36] <mcquaid> ok once at /boot/grub make a backup
[07:36] <duckdown> Hi all.. Is anyone at all familiar with how I can get my sound to work in Opera?
[07:37] <mcquaid> sudo cp menu.1st menu.1st.original
[07:37] <JaytheGreat> that command makes a backup?
[07:37] <rbil> bad filename
[07:37] <dfcarney> mcquaid: sorry to confuse the issue, but can't he just type "noacpi" at the boot prompt?
[07:37] <mcquaid> yes he can do it that way as well
[07:37] <mnepton> it's "menu.lst"
[07:38] <mnepton> lower case L, not the number 1
[07:38] <JaytheGreat> ok checj
[07:38] <JaytheGreat> check
[07:38] <mcquaid> ah doh
[07:38] <mcquaid> i always hit tab never noticed that
[07:38] <mnepton> "list," not "first" ;)
[07:38] <JaytheGreat> alright
[07:38] <mcquaid> I thought to add it there so he can test it for a few days to ensure it is that
[07:38] <bug> maybe the lockup has something to do with syncing a disk/partition.. i had that problem once with ntfs-3g on a drive that was connected through a promise sata card
[07:38] <mcquaid> how frequent are the lockups?
[07:39] <dfcarney> bug: could be that too
[07:39] <JaytheGreat> about half the time i use ubuntu
[07:39] <mcquaid> once a day, few times a day?
[07:39] <JaytheGreat> few times a day
[07:39] <bug> oh man it was ANNOYING.. plus, sometimes i'd lose stuff.. but i've gparted converted since then =-)
[07:39] <mcquaid> ok, well if you want to try this I'll finish I'll leave it up to you
[07:39] <dfcarney> bug: :)
[07:40] <dfcarney> mcquaid:  me?  ah, i think that you're doing a fine job.  besides, i gotta go soon
[07:40] <mcquaid> sudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.original
[07:40] <mcquaid> heh, i always thought that was a 1, but oh well
[07:40] <bug> duckdown: is sound working in other progs?
[07:41] <omac> JayTheGreat:  have you managed to watch a video completely before your computer hangs.
[07:41] <Troy_McClure> bleh... no DRI ati pro's in the building?
[07:41] <duckdown> bug yep
[07:41] <JaytheGreat> yeah sometimes I can go for 2 hours or whatever
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Tony: what problem?
[07:41] <mcquaid> next, gksudo gedit menu.lst
[07:41] <rbil> JaytheGreat, if you go for longer than 4 days, do see your doctor.
[07:41] <mcquaid> search for End Default Options
[07:42] <omac> JayTheGreat:  It's not your memory.  definitely something else.  maybe acpi.  give the acpi disable a try and reboot without memtest.
[07:42] <Troy_McClure> just curious if the DRI driver supports an r480, its listed in the wiki under the r300 project... but does that mean it works?
[07:42] <JaytheGreat> ok, how do i disable acpi?
[07:42] <mcquaid> right below that should be the first default kernel options that you load
[07:42] <bug> duckdown: i know that firefox lets you choose the sound daemon.. there may be a file wth a name like .operarc somewhere that has that option
[07:42] <mcquaid> where you see this line:
[07:42] <mcquaid> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[07:42] <mcquaid> change to
[07:42] <mcquaid> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet acpi=off splash
[07:43] <JaytheGreat> mcquaid, me?
[07:43] <mcquaid> noacpi works as well I believe
[07:43] <mcquaid> uh who else?
[07:43] <hollaback83> does ubuntu have yahoo chat with voice
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Troy: do you mean the radeon driver?
[07:43] <bug> there should be a list somewhere of the paths/filenames of progs that are linked to through the standard gnome start/settings/whatever menus
[07:43] <omac> these switches mean different things.  acpi=off is better.
[07:44] <mcquaid> omac, ya I wasn't positive on noacpi, i used acpi=off
[07:44] <dfcarney> JaytheGreat: for reference, what mcquaid is showing you are the "kernel boot options" used to start your system.  the string that he's having you add, "acpi=off", will disable ACPI power management by the operating system.
[07:44] <mcquaid> yes thx dfcarney
[07:44] <Troy_McClure> ArrenLex: believe that is it
[07:44] <mcquaid> too many of us tell with explaining :)
[07:45] <dfcarney> mcquaid: heh
[07:45] <mcquaid> rarely do you have to reboot in linux, but this is a case where you do for it to take effect
[07:45] <hollaback83> does ubuntu have yahoo chat with voice
[07:45] <mcquaid> anyway you can confirm acpi is off by doing this in a term on reboot
[07:46] <JaytheGreat> ok, so I start ubuntu again and open the terminal, and I do this: sudo cp menu.lst.lst original, and then gksudo gedit menu.lst and then add in acpi=off   ??
[07:46] <omac> hollaback83: I'm not sure they support yahoo chat with voice.  skype works and ekiga works.
[07:46] <mcquaid> dmesg | grep ACPI
[07:46] <mcquaid> one sec one line looks wrong there
[07:46] <hollaback83> ok
[07:46] <mcquaid> sudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.original
[07:46] <mcquaid> do it that way
[07:47] <mcquaid> but yes, back up menu.1st, append acpi=off to the line I pointed out
[07:47] <Keyseir_> How do I add new screen resolutions?
[07:47] <JaytheGreat> ok I forgot a word
[07:47] <Keyseir_> I need a non-default resolution for my widescreen monitor
[07:47] <mcquaid> reboot, and optionally confirm acpi is turned off with dmesg | grep ACPI
[07:47] <mcquaid> it'll say something to the effect of acpi disabled
[07:47] <mcquaid> then use puter and cross fingers
[07:48] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: well, you can manually add them to the XF86Confiig file, I think (but that's totally old school).  I'm sure that there's a nicer way to do it.
[07:48] <JaytheGreat> ok
[07:48] <mcquaid> if it locks it's something else, then try ram test
[07:48] <clever> why cant i get lirc modules compiled for my kernel
[07:48] <JaytheGreat> thanks, I'll try this now
[07:48] <mcquaid> er memtest
[07:48] <clever> in a package that comes with ubuntu
[07:48] <omac> cool....puter :)
[07:48] <JaytheGreat> then i'll do a memtest and go to bed
[07:48] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: lol
[07:48] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: though i dunno if you'll need a special driver for a non-standard resolution
[07:49] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I've done this before... I just edited a text file
[07:49] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: 1440x900 just isn't on the list
[07:49] <Geoffrey2> hmmm, trying to download the latest OpenOffice.org version, but it seems all I can get is an .rpm.....
[07:49] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: of screen resolutions on screen resolution prefs
[07:50] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: i say that you just edit the config file by hand then
[07:50] <bug> i'd say that the easiest way to do the resolution thing would be to just edit the x config file.. just be sure to md5sum|tee it after editing!
[07:50] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: k
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: yeah, that's how it ships. You can use alien to convert.
[07:50] <dfcarney> it's probably /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[07:51] <jonkelle> backup your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf by     $ cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf`date +%d%m%y`
[07:51] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I did a file search for "xf86config" and only found archives
[07:51] <jrsims> hey! I downloaded a mouse cursor pack from gnome-look. It's in a tar.gz. How do I install it?
[07:51] <jonkelle> then edit your xorg.conf file with the new desired resolution.
[07:52] <jonkelle> you should have a file called xorg.conf under /etc/X11  that is your huckleberry.
[07:52] <Keyseir_> jonkelle: thanks
[07:52] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: I suggest that you follow jonkelle's advice on this one.  The last time I edited my X config was 3 years ago (for a Debian system)
[07:52] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: hehe. oldsch001
[07:52] <jonkelle> if you mess it up, you can always copy your backup in place.
[07:52] <Keyseir_> thanks jonkelle, i'm trying to do that.
[07:52] <noia> how do I install the firefox2 beta in ubuntu?
[07:53] <bug> noia: don't =-)
[07:53] <noia> it dosn't appear in apt-cache search =\
[07:53] <bug> noia: wait until tuesday for the final
[07:53] <noia> but that means waiting :(
[07:53] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: hey man, that was back when the 2.4 kernel was just becoming  popular :)
[07:53] <fdsd> hey guys, I am writing an app that will image harddrives, does anyone know how I can read the name of a macintosh Volume, like for example the name of the drive is "Macintosh HD" but in linux how do I find this info? where is it stored?
[07:53] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I'm 17 and have been running Linux for under a year... YOUR NOSTALGIA IS NO GOOD HERE SIR.
[07:54] <bug> noia: true, but it also means that you don't have to do it again in two days.. and there will (hopefully) be a deb package then
[07:54] <dfcarney> Keyseir: haha.  well, i'm 29 and i've been using it for 10 years.
[07:55] <rbil> youngsters!
[07:55] <bug> what is the best dvd burner for value, quality, and linux-compatibility?
[07:55] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: You've been doing this since... uh.. Nope! not before I was born.
[07:56] <wrabbit^> hey.. just did a full 6.06 reinstall on my ubuntu box. I've installed the regular updates required on first install.  What do I have to do to upgrade to edgy?  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?  Is anything else required?
[07:56] <wesley> You need to change your sources list
[07:56] <mnepton> hehehhe .... "youngsters"
[07:56] <dfcarney> Keyseir_: man, you don't even remember the 80s, do you?  well, you didn't miss much.
[07:56] <bug> change everything that says dapper to edgy, i think
[07:56] <wesley> Yeah
[07:56] <wesley> Just do a find and replace
[07:56] <robitaille> wrabbit^:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[07:56] <wesley> Good luck.
[07:56] <wrabbit^> bug: ah right.  Will do
[07:57] <b0xii> no A-team?!!!
[07:57] <wrabbit^> thanks robitaille
[07:57] <Keyseir_> dfcarney: I was born in may of 89. So, that's correct.
[07:57] <bug> dfcarney, ha except for the quality transformers toys and voltron.......
[07:57] <mnepton> anyone here ever actually use Hollereth cards? hmmm? :)
[07:57] <wesley> I was born in May of 88, Keyseir. Grow up.
[07:57] <wrabbit^> hehe
[07:57] <Keyseir_> Trying.
[07:57] <rbil> infants!
[07:57] <wesley> Oh shush old man.
[07:58] <jrsims> hey! I downloaded a mouse cursor pack from gnome-look. It's in a tar.gz. How do I install it?
[07:58] <rbil> hehe
[07:58] <mnepton> i have t-shirts born before 1988.
[07:58] <dfcarney> bug: ah, voltron.
[07:58] <dfcarney> bug: that brings back memories
[07:58] <rbil> I haven't changed my socks since 1988
[07:58] <wesley> Jrsims...
[07:58] <wesley> Google.
[07:58] <Keyseir_> brb
[07:58] <wesley> Seriously though, install it through theme manage
[07:58] <jonkelle> voltron transformers, and the kmart styled transformer knock-offs Gobots!
[07:58] <bug> dfcarney: i really can't remember the show that well.. i just know that the lions were much cooler than the vehicles
[07:58] <wesley> manager
[07:58] <rbil> beddy bye for the children :-)
[07:58] <bug> gobots? i think i had a couple!
[07:59] <wesley> then look in prefrences for coursor themes
[07:59] <dfcarney> bug: that's all the show had going for it.
[07:59] <wesley> Yeah, Click mouse.
[07:59] <jonkelle> voltron preceded transformers by more than few years though.
[07:59] <mnepton> when i was a kid, "Transformers" were usually used to describe Wendy Carlos, Lou Reed, and David Bowie.
[07:59] <jonkelle> they just kept playing the reruns all through the 80s.
[07:59] <wesley> Haha.
[08:00] <bug> i still have my voltron toys...
[08:00] <wesley> So wait, 80's discussion?
[08:00] <noia> anyone know why I cant access one of my hds (hda) but I can access my other ones...even the ntfs ones ?
[08:00] <jonkelle> is hda formatted?
[08:00] <rbil> anyone here get excited when monitors moved from 40 characters wide to 80?
[08:00] <mnepton> noia: what does "ls /dev/hd*" tell you?
[08:00] <bug> is it plugged in? i forgot to do that once after moving some stuff around.. it was scary
[08:00] <noia> jonkelle: yes, and visible
[08:00] <wesley> I came in to the CRT era.
[08:01] <bug> ...did you mount it?
[08:01] <noia> bug: /dev/hda
[08:01] <mnepton> rbil: i got excited when there were monitors placed at my workstation instead of having to use the bullpen.
[08:01] <dfcarney> mnepton: yeah, but *those* kinds of dolls aren't marketed to kids
[08:01] <rbil> OK, how about when a 1MB hard drive dropped below $1000?
[08:01] <mnepton> hard drive?
[08:01] <jonkelle> that was more space than anyone would ever need!!!
[08:01] <bug> cga.. the wave of the future
[08:01] <mnepton> what's wrong with our tapes?
[08:01] <jonkelle> i remember my dad saying that.
[08:01] <wesley> Stop this. I feel too young.  And no one should ever feel that way.
[08:02] <bug> yeah? talking about how much today's music sucks makes you feel OLD.. stupid "new rock" heh
[08:02] <rbil> How about when you got your first 300 baud modem and sent your first email?
[08:02] <noia> bug: woops...I made a mistake
[08:02] <jonkelle> hey speaking of tapes... who else here wrote their first basic program on an atari, and saved it to tape?  cassette tape addon?
[08:02] <bug> noia: no problem
[08:02] <noia> bug: the error is: error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[08:02] <rbil> I did, but it was before atari ... coco computer
[08:02] <mnepton> jonkelle: my first code was written on a PDP 11/40 timeshare.
[08:03] <Geoffrey2> 300 baud?  try 110 :)
[08:03] <dfcarney> rbil: same.  a tandy coco 3
[08:03] <b0xii> jonkelle: TI-99
[08:03] <noia> bug: where sda1 should be my windows installation...
[08:03] <rbil> haha
[08:03] <rbil> programmed a turtle to walk across the screen in a programming language called logo
[08:03] <jonkelle> time shares were slightly ahead of my curve.  I was just a kid with a nerd dad, who brought home every type of inexpensive computer.
[08:03] <rbil> save program to an audio tape
[08:04] <wesley> My first program was written on a calculator
[08:04] <Geoffrey2> hmmm, Quantumlink anyone?
[08:04] <b0xii> it was loud too!
[08:04] <wrabbit^> upgrading now :)
[08:04] <jonkelle> we had vic20s, commodore 64s, atari 400s, atari 800xl, amigas, trash 80s.
[08:04] <wesley> Good luck man
[08:04] <rbil> Trash80 with 8" floppies?
[08:04] <jonkelle> Yeah.
[08:05] <Geoffrey2> rbil, Model IV?
[08:05] <wesley> Godddddd. You are all too damn old. I want geek stories :(
[08:05] <jonkelle> we also had a small trash  80 that was portable.  i don't remember the exact model number, but it fit into a receipt printer that was portable as well.
[08:05] <rbil> can't remember .... then Kaypro ... portable that you could drive a tank over with 9" green monitor
[08:05] <rbil> only weighed 45 pounds
[08:05] <bug> i had a friend with the old acoustic coupler type modem
[08:05] <bug> i loved bbses...
[08:05] <sipher> Might be a stupid question but.. will Ubuntu let me burn a CD while running the live CD (with a single drive)? Like.. can it eject the live CD, take a blank one, burn the data and ask for the live CD again?
[08:05] <sipher> guess that's a no
[08:06] <wesley> Yeah, thats a no.
[08:06] <rbil> I miss FidoNet
[08:06] <Keyseir> Can anyone suggest a good screen resolution for a 19" Widescreen LCD that'll give me more space then 1440x900?
[08:06] <wesley> What is the native resolution?
[08:06] <rbil> with a 300 line autoexec.bat file setting up all the routing
[08:06] <Geoffrey2> rbil, yeah, the Kaypro....you could call it portable....kind of....
[08:06] <wesley> Keysier, What is the default resolution?
[08:06] <rbil> as portable as carrying a clothes dryer around :-)
[08:06] <Keyseir> 1440x900 is the resolution suggested on the monitor box.
[08:07] <sipher> oops. Sorry. Lag
[08:07] <wesley> Ok. Then that is what you should run it at.
[08:07] <wesley> Just use Virtual Desktops.
[08:07] <Keyseir> I think I might have had something slightly smaller that fit right before I ran dist-upgrade and lost some stuff.
[08:07] <bug> a college that i went to had a "portable" computer with a carcinogenic monitor
[08:07] <bug> (supposedly)
[08:08] <wesley> You can try running other resolutions. But you risk damaging your montior.
[08:08] <dfcarney> Keyseir: what is the make/model?
[08:08] <rbil> bug, I don't know? but these warts on my eye balls are getting annoying
[08:08] <Keyseir> Just thought somebody else with a 19" widescreen might advise.
[08:08] <bug> rbil, ha
[08:09] <logankoester> anyone got any suggestions as far as software to sync a windows mobile device?
[08:09] <Keyseir> dfcarney: Acer AL1916W
[08:09] <logankoester> pocketpc
[08:09] <wesley> haha.
[08:09] <wesley> Logan. Google is your friend. What did the almighty Goog say?
[08:09] <logankoester> Dunno, still workin on it
[08:10] <rbil> the almighty Goog said get a pda that runs Linux
[08:10] <logankoester> had one, it sucked :p
[08:10] <rbil> Jornada 720 running Debian
[08:10] <wesley> Ew.
[08:10] <wesley> I know that it has software for Palm OS
[08:11] <wesley> But you know.  It is a Windows Device that your trying to hook up.....
[08:11] <noia> so, does anyone know why /dev/sda1 appears "mounted" but can't be accessed? Its supposed to be my windows installation (NTFS) but I can't get to it...
[08:11] <jonkelle> permissions probably.
[08:11] <rbil> I used to sync a Windoze PDA under Mandrake, so there's been software out for awhile to do that.
[08:12] <Keyseir> dfcarney: I've yet to find the handy resource I'm googling for.
[08:12] <noia> jonkelle: hmm
[08:12] <wesley> Hm.
[08:12] <wesley> Well, I dont use a PDA so sorry.
[08:12] <jonkelle> test it by going to the terminal.
[08:12] <jonkelle> type sudo su -
[08:12] <jonkelle> then cd into the directory.
[08:12] <dfcarney> Keyseir: yeah, i was looking for the manual online.  it'll tell you the resolutions available to it... though 1440x900 seems like the one to use.
[08:13] <jonkelle> if that succeeds, you probably need to modifiy the permissions on the directory.
[08:13] <Keyseir> dfcarney: <nods> I'm 80% sure this wasn't the resolution I was using before, but 1440x900 looks about the same so I guess I'll let it rest.
[08:13] <dfcarney> noia: how is the directory mounted?  i wasn't following your conversation.  is it over NFS, via Samba, ?
[08:13] <jonkelle> do a long listing on the directory itself.
[08:14] <jonkelle> he said ntfs.
[08:14] <jonkelle> I'm betting he is not the owner is all.
[08:14] <pudland> question: how can i manually install GRUB on UBUNTU Dapper Server
[08:14] <dfcarney> jonkelle: well, it may be more than just changing the permissions.  if remote authentication is involved he'll have to add himself to the team instead.
[08:15] <noia> jonkelle: apparently its not a directory..
[08:15] <jonkelle> I didn't see him say anything about remote authentication.
[08:15] <jonkelle> do a df -k and tell me what you see.
[08:15] <jyothish> hello
[08:15] <jonkelle> is that mount listed in df -k?
[08:16] <noia> jonkelle: nope...
[08:16] <jonkelle> ok, so it is not mounted.
[08:16] <dfcarney> jonkelle: no, but you need to map the remote UIDs/GIDs to the local machine in order for the permissions to work
[08:16] <noia> jonkelle: odd
[08:17] <jonkelle> true.  but he  doesn't even have the file system mounted.
[08:17] <dfcarney> jonkelle: ok.  i must have missed something in your conversation.
[08:17] <jonkelle> so, he's not to that point yet.
[08:18] <noia> jonkelle: its just odd that it appears under the "my computer"
[08:18] <dfcarney> jonkelle: oh wait...you said NTFS, right?  i'm an idiot.  i thought that you said NFS
[08:18] <jonkelle> yeah ntfs...
[08:19] <dfcarney> jonkelle:  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:19] <jonkelle> I was wondering what I missed.
[08:19] <jonkelle> noia, can you tell me if you have an entry for your mount under /etc/fstab?
[08:19] <jonkelle> should have it's own line.
[08:20] <jonkelle> also run the command mount and tell me if you see it.
[08:20] <jonkelle> just the command mount with no arguments
[08:20] <noia> apparently not
[08:21] <jonkelle> are you running off of a live cd?
[08:21] <jonkelle> or installed system?
[08:21] <noia> jonkelle: installed system
[08:21] <jonkelle> ok....
[08:21] <jonkelle> and mount didn't return anything correct?
[08:22] <noia> nothing relating to /dev/sda1
[08:24] <dfcarney> \quit
[08:24] <dfcarney> oops
[08:24] <dfcarney> :)
[08:24] <wesley> :)
[08:26] <rbil> got my first keyboard today that has a Windoze key on it. Doesn't do anything in Linux? What gives? I thought at least an activation message would come up.
[08:27] <rbil> or it would start to defrag my Sea Drive
[08:27] <mnepton> rbil: try scrolling up in a screen session without that key ;)
[08:27] <noia> so...
[08:27] <rbil> in a terminal?
[08:27] <infidel> anyone know a utility to write chm files?
[08:28] <poningru> noia: whats wrong?
[08:28] <noia> jonkelle: any idea how I should mount it? I suspect I should put something in /etc/fstab
[08:28] <noia> poningru: mounting issue
[08:28] <noia> its been years since I had to mount anything at all...
[08:28] <noia> litteraly
[08:29] <rbil> it's been years since I could mount anything
[08:29] <infidel> !chm
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Keyseir_> !ubotu
[08:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:30] <Geoffrey2> can alien handle wildcards?
[08:30] <jonkelle_> I'm sorry was disconnected there.
[08:30] <s_spiff> anyone here upgraded to EE RC?
[08:30] <noia> jonkelle_: alright
[08:31] <jonkelle_> noia, do you know how to add an entry to /etc/fstab?
[08:31] <s_spiff> Edgy Eft Release Candidate?
[08:31] <noia> jonkelle_: unfortunatly, last time I used /etc/fstab was 4 years ago...so I don't remember a thing >.<
[08:31] <Geoffrey2> if I have several rpm files in a single directory, can I use something like 'alien *' to convert them all, or do I need to enter them one at a time?
[08:31] <kraut> moin
[08:32] <s_spiff> jonkelle_, there is a wiki entry on that. search, if you can't find, i'll check it out.
[08:32] <rbil> jonkelle, what do u want to add to fstab?
[08:32] <noia> rbil: jonkelle_ is helping me...
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> s_spiff: i did
[08:32] <s_spiff> lol sorry jonkelle_
[08:32] <Troy_McClure> woot woot! aiglx and beryl!
[08:32] <logankoester> grr
[08:32] <jonkelle_> ok
[08:33] <s_spiff> Admiral_Chicago, cool how many mb's did you have to download?
[08:33] <jonkelle_> noia add this line to /etc/fstab
[08:33] <rbil> goodnight folks
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i was on Edgy since Knot 1 though
[08:33] <logankoester> I can't get xmms to use the right display
[08:33] <s_spiff> Admiral_Chicago, okie. doin that right now. hopefully should work fine.
[08:33] <logankoester> xmms -display :0 just says "invalid option -- d"
[08:34] <s_spiff> Admiral_Chicago, i c. I'm on DD amd64. just upgrading now. to check it out. will do a clean install when the EE final is out.
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i didnt have any problems
[08:34] <jonkelle_>   noia:  /dev/sda1 /windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[08:34] <jonkelle_> leave off the preceding noia of course
[08:34] <s_spiff> good to know that
[08:34] <jonkelle_> and for /windows whatever directory you want it to be.  the directory should already be created though.
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> s_spiff: did you see the change log?
[08:35] <s_spiff> Admiral_Chicago, not quite. i was tempted by the new kernel and gnome, and the new fancy artwork. so i thought i should check it out
[08:36] <jonkelle_> then after you add that line to fstab, and make that directory.  you should be able to mount it by typing mount /windows
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't remember the link but like stuff like upstart is crazy
[08:36] <jonkelle_> all the above should be done with sudo of course.
[08:36] <s_spiff> Admiral_Chicago, yes i read about it, what exactly does it do?
[08:36] <noia> jonkelle_: right, done
[08:36] <gnomefreak> s_spiff: and Admiral_Chicago please join #ubuntu+1 for that topic
[08:37] <noia> I guess a reboot should confirm if it works
[08:37] <s_spiff> sorry gnomefreak will do that
[08:37] <jonkelle_> no, if you mount it now, it will confirm
[08:37] <jonkelle_> just type mount /windows or whatever you named your directory
[08:37] <jonkelle_> err... sudo mount /windows
[08:39] <jonkelle_> after you do that type df -k to verify that your filesystem is mounted.
[08:40] <noia> jonkelle_: I can cd to it, but its owned by root >.<
[08:40] <jonkelle_> ok, now it is a permissions problem.
[08:41] <noia> yup
[08:41] <jonkelle_> can you see the files in that directory?
[08:41] <Keyseir_> noia: use "sudo" before the command, and use your special password.
[08:41] <noia> progress :D
[08:41] <jonkelle_> yeah.
[08:41] <noia> Keyseir_: I'd rather not have to...
[08:41] <noia> jonkelle_: yup
[08:41] <jonkelle_> good.
[08:41] <bh_> dependencies like libpango are breaking the upgrade
[08:41] <Keyseir_> noia: some commands require superuser abilities.
[08:41] <jonkelle_> that means now your file system will mount next time you reboot, etc.
[08:41] <jonkelle_> so, we just have to sort out your ownership and permission.
[08:41] <noia> right
[08:42] <Ademan> how is cmake? is it better/easier to use than make, automake, libtool etc?
[08:42] <jonkelle_> if you do a long listing, what is the owner group and rwx permissions on the files?
[08:42] <jonkelle_> ls -la
[08:42] <gnu2it2> what happened to the edgy eft release date? the web is still showing 6.06 as current
[08:42] <Ademan> gnu2it2: 26th
[08:42] <Flannel> gnu2it2: release is on the 26th, like always
[08:42] <gnomefreak> !schedule | gnu2it2
[08:42] <ubotu> gnu2it2: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:42] <noia> jonkelle_: which files exactly?
[08:43] <noia> jonkelle_: the ones in the new mounted drive?
[08:43] <jonkelle_> yes.
[08:43] <jonkelle_> i just need to see one line in all likelyhood
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> can anyone point me to directions on how to add a debian repository, such as etch?
[08:44] <gnu2it2> ok,,  should hit about same time as new hardware,, thanks
[08:44] <noia> dr-x------ 1 root root       4096 2006-09-20 02:06 Documents and Settings
[08:44] <jonkelle_> ok, you have 2 things going on.  it mounted it as read only for root.
[08:44] <noia> ah
[08:45] <noia> can linux even write to ntfs yet?
[08:45] <oxdot> geoffrey2 : edit the file : /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <jonkelle_> it depends on the kernel you have if it supports it.
[08:45] <DaGame> HELO BOYZ
[08:45] <jonkelle_> however, if you just want to access the files, we can fix that post haste.
[08:46] <jonkelle_> you just want to be able to get to your windows files and either copy them or view them correct?
[08:46] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: Ubuntu can't use debian binary repositories safely
[08:46] <Chippy> hello there
[08:46] <Burkey> Hello everyone, am I in the write channel to ask about fglrx on Edgy?
[08:47] <noia> jonkelle_: yea, I don't really need to write anythign to them
[08:47] <Geoffrey2> Flannel, phooey...it can't?  oh well, guess I just wait until the package gets updated in Ubuntu
[08:47] <jonkelle_> ok, so try this command, it will probably fail, however, if it does, we'll have to remount the filesystem after we make a change to /etc/fstab
[08:47] <jonkelle_> but first
[08:48] <Chippy> it seems that some packages are invisibile to me.. or something??  when I try to apt-get install some packages, it can't find it.... here's my sources.list: http://pastehere.com/?odonhf ... packages it won't install are: (among others) beryl and linux-dri-modules-common
[08:48] <RMorris84> im having a problem with my flash, i just had installed the flash 9 beta the other day, and as far as flash goes its better, but it seems to be that alot of you tube videos lose sound like halfway through, is this common?
[08:48] <Chippy> hmm, I'm on amd64... would that make a difference in the repos?
[08:49] <DaGame> UR KING IZ ERE
[08:49] <oxdot> jonkelle and noia : i have some similar problem i can mount my win-dir (ntfs) as user, but can only access files as root. fstab : ro,users, noauto
[08:49] <jonkelle_> from inside that directory
[08:50] <Madpilot> Chippy, some stuff is not available for 64bit
[08:50] <Madpilot> DaGame, enough ALL CAPS, OK?
[08:50] <jonkelle_> $ sudo chmod -R 555 *
[08:50] <jonkelle_> it will probably fail, because I think the file system is mounted read only.
[08:50] <Chippy> Madpilot: but wouldn't something as common as linux-dri-modules-common and beryl be in 64bit?
[08:50] <jonkelle_> so, let me find the right /etc/fstab entry for ntfs
[08:51] <gnomefreak> DaGame: also to add to madpilot stay on topic :)
[08:51] <Madpilot> Chippy, no idea - but try #ubuntu-xgl for Beryl
[08:51] <DaGame> :)
[08:51] <ink_> hello, I'm trapped in an error and i can't get out: "/bin/bash: relocation error: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_starting_up, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[08:51] <ink_> "
[08:51] <ink_> happened after dist-upgrading
[08:51] <Chippy> Madpilot: I did, but they're not helping at all for the packages, that's the problem
[08:51] <oxdot> jonkelle_ -t ntfs ? not
[08:51] <Chippy> Madpilot: it's the packages that are the problem right now
[08:52] <Burkey> Is there a specific place I should be asking about fglrx on edgy giving me mtrr errors? or can someone here assist?
[08:52] <Madpilot> Chippy, beryl is so new it's not even really alpha, so I've no idea what's going in in 64bit-land for it
[08:52] <oxdot> (only ntfs in fstab)
[08:52] <noia> jonkelle_: should I do this while as root?
[08:52] <Madpilot> Burkey, #ubuntu+1 for Edgy
[08:52] <gnomefreak> its built for 64bit arch
[08:52] <jonkelle_>  yes....  or use sudo
[08:52] <Burkey> Madpilot: thanks mate!
[08:52] <screechingcat> Burkey, maybe #ubuntu-xgl ?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> ChaKy: ask in #ubuntu-xgl for the answers you seek
[08:53] <Chippy> Madpilot: gotcha, thanks
[08:53] <Burkey> screechingcat: thanks but i am not on xgl atm.. i dont think
[08:53] <noia> jonkelle_: its changing permissions
[08:53] <jonkelle_> oxdot, we already have that.  unfortunately, he wants to access his files as a normal user, so I have to hadd the user flag for him I believe.
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Chippy: ^^
[08:53] <jonkelle_> it's not throwing errors?
[08:53] <Chippy> Madpilot: but what about the linux-dri-modules-common or whatnot?
[08:53] <noia> jonkelle_: er..yea
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Chippy: ask in #ubuntu-xgl for the answers you seek
[08:53] <noia> read only
[08:53] <Madpilot> Chippy, no idea, tbh
[08:53] <jonkelle_> ok... give me a second.
[08:53] <oxdot> jonkelle_ is the group not enough ?
[08:54] <Chippy> Madpilot: lame... I guess I should just install 32bit and avoid the headache then eh?
[08:55] <jonkelle_> noia: replace the word default with the following inside /etc/fstab
[08:55] <jonkelle_> users,owner,ro,umask=000
[08:55] <Madpilot> Chippy, that seems to be what a lot of people do...
[08:55] <jonkelle_> so now it should read /mnt/sda1 /windows ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0
[08:55] <jonkelle_> then sudo umount /windows and sudo mount /windows
[08:55] <Chippy> Madpilot: yeah, it's pretty lame though, there should be enough demand by now...
[08:56] <thomas__> hey everyone, for some reason my system is starting the dial up connection on boot. how can i turn this off?
[08:56] <yakumo> hello pls help evertime i use apt-get install this error mssg appear
[08:56] <yakumo> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cdda2wav_4%3a2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6_i386.deb
[08:57] <Chippy> Madpilot: mkay, thanks for the help... 32 bit it is
[08:57] <gnomefreak> yakumo: what mirror are you using?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> yakumo: is it giving you "failed to overwrite bleh" errro
[08:57] <yakumo> nope
[08:58] <noia> jonkelle_: alright
[08:58] <noia> one sec..
[08:58] <gnomefreak> yakumo: what is the error than?
[08:58] <SurfnKid> could anyone help me with beryl?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: #ubuntu-xgl would be best place to ask
[08:58] <yakumo>  files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[08:58] <thomas__> anyone know why my dialup would be starting automatically on boot, or how to turn it off?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> yakumo: sounds like a coding issue
[08:59] <yakumo> do i need to reinstall my ubuntu?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> yakumo: are you on edgy?
[09:00] <yakumo> dapper
[09:00] <gnomefreak> ok try sudo apt-get install fuse-utils
[09:00] <gnomefreak> let me know what it says
[09:00] <noia> jonkelle_: works :)
[09:00] <noia> thanks alot
[09:01] <Flannel> gnomefreak: it's in universe
[09:01] <yakumo> i don't if the cause of the problem start when i instal  sudo apt-get install python python-wxgtk2.6
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Flannel: i know i used apt-cache
[09:01] <jonkelle_> cool.  if you ever want to write to it, I believe you will have to install some special kernel modules.
[09:01] <jonkelle_> glad to help you though.
[09:03] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got a weird problem with my wifi connection.  even though my pc is ~3ft away from the ap, the connection quality is really bad.  pinging the AP router takes >1 second. any ideas?
[09:03] <jonkelle_> oxdot did you see the line I had noia add to his /etc/fstab?
[09:03] <yakumo> i try install fuse-utils is already the newest version. the mssg appear was
[09:03] <yakumo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 186 not upgraded.
[09:04] <KenSentMe> Has anyone tried flash player 9 beta yet?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> yakumo: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:04] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: yes
[09:04] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: and, did it work well?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> it works fine for me on FF 3.0
[09:04] <oxdot> jonkelle_ umask=000 ?
[09:05] <jonkelle_> yeah.
[09:05] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: 3.0?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> yes its alpha
[09:05] <jonkelle_> that is the one which allows you to browse as a normal user.
[09:05] <oxdot> what does it mean ... ntfs ?
[09:05] <yakumo> ok ill try
[09:05] <jonkelle_> ntfs is the file system type.
[09:05] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: lol, did you use the binaries from the adobe site?
[09:05] <boink> new technology file system
[09:05] <gnomefreak> yep but there is a deb made
[09:05] <Flannel> !flash9
[09:05] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[09:05] <oxdot> especially for it (ntfs) ?
[09:06] <yakumo> if i may ask what does the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:06] <KenSentMe> Flannel: nice, thanks
[09:06] <jonkelle_> ok, since windows nt microsoft has been trying to replace fat32 with the nt file system
[09:06] <jonkelle_> or ntfs
[09:06] <gnomefreak> yakumo: it will upgrade the packages that are not upgraded and as long as you sources.list if official dapper than you will stay on dapper
[09:06] <jonkelle_> these days xp and such default to that.
[09:06] <jonkelle_> so yeah ntfs is specific to windows
[09:07] <jonkelle_> although some drives are still formatted in fat32, but it will bitch at you if it is the wrong fs type and you specify something else in the /etc/fstab
[09:07] <yakumo> ok :)
[09:07] <oxdot> no i now that ntfs is win specific, but for ext3 i only have the user flag.
[09:08] <mnepton> NTFS = Not Trustworthy File Scrambler
[09:08] <jonkelle_> you shouldn't have that problem on ext3
[09:08] <jonkelle_> what are your permissions in the filesystem you are looking at?
[09:08] <jonkelle_> if you do an ls -l inside the directory.
[09:09] <oxdot> i cannot change to my windir as user only as root ...
[09:09] <jonkelle_> oh ok.  that is the same problem noia was just having.
[09:09] <oxdot> the dir itself have root:root
[09:10] <jonkelle_> can you copy the line from your /etc/fstab that specifies your windows file system?
[09:10] <LookTJ> what is a good ircd for noobs?
[09:10] <boink> irc server?
[09:10] <mnepton> ircd?
[09:10] <oxdot> dev/hda1	/_xp		ntfs		ro,user,noauto				0	0
[09:10] <mnepton> noobs should not run ircds.
[09:10] <LookTJ> irc server yes
[09:10] <mnepton> ;)
[09:10] <boink> why do you want your own ircd?
[09:11] <LookTJ> i have forums. thought it might be cool to have ircd too
[09:11] <mnepton> "what's the best airline for me to be a 747 pilot? i've never flown before."
[09:11] <boink> do an apt-cache search ircd
[09:11] <Geoffrey2> mnepton, Trans Air
[09:11] <mnepton> LookTJ: seriously, an ircd is not for the faint of heart.
[09:12] <boink> and you should find one which you want to use
[09:12] <jonkelle_> ok, comment that line out.... and try this one.
[09:12] <LookTJ> ok thanks
[09:12] <diebels> Having problems with soundcard in an centrino laptop. It's "Chip: Generic 14f1 ID 5047" in alsamixer. Some conexant hda chip. Only getting Master, PCM and capture controls, missing control for headphone and line in. Tried applying this fix: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-September/001063.html to the ubuntu kernel, but no difference. Anybody want to help?
[09:13] <jonkelle_> try /dev/hda1 /windows ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0
[09:13] <jonkelle_> then umount the current file system, make sure you have a /windows directory created and sudo mount /windows
[09:13] <seatux> what is the line to add mouse scroll wheel support to xorg.conf?
[09:14] <zhelezka> sorry for the stupid question :) I want to redirect my stdout and stderr into a file without its rewriting. If I want only to redirect stdout, I write >>, but how can I do that with both stdout and stderr?
[09:14] <twev> my dial up is starting automatically on dial up, i really need to stop this, can somebody give me any ideas?
[09:15] <twev> *startup
[09:15] <oxdot> Fine ! thanks, but what does the umask mean ?
[09:15] <jonkelle_> umask is the default permission level the file system is mounted as.
[09:16] <jonkelle_> so a umask of 000 is equivalent of telling mount to try and mount with permissions 777 or rwxrwxrwx
[09:16] <matthew_w> What are some reasons my computer would be unable to detect my printer?
[09:16] <jonkelle_> in the case of a read only file system it will only mount it w-xw-xw-x
[09:16] <yakumo> i use the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade by i still got the same error mssg. :)
[09:17] <yakumo> (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cdda2wav_4%3a2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:17] <yakumo>  files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[09:17] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:17] <bimberi> twev: if /etc/network/interfaces has a line like 'auto ppp0' in it, comment it out
[09:17] <gnomefreak> yakumo: file a bug report than
[09:17] <poningru> gnomefreak: ping
[09:17] <oxdot> Ok thanks !
[09:17] <jonkelle_> no problem.
[09:17] <gnomefreak> yakumo: sudo dpkg -r cdda2wav
[09:18] <jonkelle_> ok.  to bed I go.  later all.
[09:18] <yakumo> ok
[09:18] <oxdot> sweet dreams !
[09:18] <Geoffrey2> while looking through Synaptic, I noticed a large number of graphics drivers installed for the X server...any problems with deleting those I don't need?
[09:19] <yakumo> i try rm then this appear dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove cdda2wav which isn't installed.
[09:20] <gnomefreak> yakumo: lol
[09:20] <gnomefreak> yakumo: file a bug report
[09:20] <twev> bimberi: there is auto with some other ones but not ppp0, it just has this iface ppp0 inet ppp
[09:20] <twev> provider ppp0
[09:20] <gnomefreak> i was afraid of that one
[09:20] <seatux> what is the line to add mouse scroll wheel support to xorg.conf?
[09:20] <wmealing> out of interest, im trying to install etch, and it seems many packages were corrupt, at the time of download.. the iso md5/sha1 matched..
[09:20] <wmealing> is it broken ?
[09:20] <yakumo> sorry im a newbie how to? :)
[09:20] <Madpilot> wmealing, etch or edgy? Different things
[09:21] <wmealing> apologies.. etch.. I think. the one in testing.
[09:21] <wmealing> the current supported one fails to install on my macbook.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> wmealing: etch is debian and edgy is ubuntu both are testing
[09:21] <Madpilot> wmealing, Edgy is the Ubuntu version in testing; Etch is Debian's upcoming release - so I think you mean Edgy
[09:21] <zorda> hey dude i need some help
[09:21] <gnomefreak> wmealing: what does lsb_release -a say
[09:22] <bimberi> twev: hm,  sorry i'm not sure then :|
[09:22] <wmealing> er, its during install.
[09:22] <timhaughton> What's the easiest way to find the disk usage per folder?
[09:22] <twev> bimberi: thnx neway
[09:22] <mnepton> timhaughton: du
[09:23] <zorda> please help me
[09:23] <timhaughton> mnepton: Thanks
[09:23] <mnepton> Please Insert $.25 To Continue
[09:23] <zorda> me a noob in the big linx kernal that i can get in to. leagal and im scared!
[09:23] <Flannel> zorda: the only way you're going to get help is by asking questions ;)
[09:23] <realfolkblues> can anyone help me understand this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1465348#post1465348
[09:24] <wmealing> realfolkblues, nick from Cowboy Bebop ?
[09:24] <realfolkblues> wmealing yes
[09:24] <Madpilot> zorda, it would help if you actually asked a question first...
[09:24] <zorda> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences i got this can my roder be doing that?
[09:24] <Flannel> zorda: you can still connect to the internet on the machine?
[09:24] <yakumo> is it posible to save the pakage that i install using apt-get install on my cdr/dvdr? because im plannig to reformat but i already have a lot software install.
[09:24] <zorda> yea
[09:25] <Flannel> zorda: then no.  pastebin your sources.list
[09:25] <Flannel> !paste
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:25] <wmealing> ok, Edgy is what I'm running.. I keep hearing about this distro, but I can never seem to even get it to install.
[09:25] <gnomefreak> !fixres | realfolkblues
[09:25] <ubotu> realfolkblues: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:25] <realfolkblues> I'm missing an inch off the top and bottom of my screen it's not fun!
[09:25] <gnomefreak> wmealing: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy please
[09:26] <netG> hi
[09:26] <zorda> realfolkblues:  i think your moniter is dieing bro
[09:26] <realfolkblues> zorda: no it's x's fault
[09:26] <netG> how can I know if I'm behind a NAT?
[09:26] <spike> can anybody help me with alsa please? http://rafb.net/paste/results/1jys2c59.html
[09:26] <piglit> wrong frequenty ?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> netG: i dont think its hard to figure it out. did you hook it up to use a nat?
[09:27] <zorda> Flannel:  um
[09:27] <Shadowpillar> flash 9 beta has been released
[09:27] <piglit> realfolkblues: if it is the wrong frequenty try edditing xorg.conf
[09:27] <zhelezka> help me please with my redirection
[09:27] <netG> I'm still getting lowID with edonkey
[09:27] <zorda> Flannel:  where is that im sorry about my mega noobness
[09:28] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: yes it was a while ago (maybe a week)
[09:28] <realfolkblues> piglit: i cant figure out this tut on doig it can anyone help me understand this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1465348#post1465348
[09:28] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: there are already .debs for it
[09:28] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: where?
[09:28] <piglit> netG: try googel on amule and ports and firewall's
[09:28] <mnepton> netG: hasn't the eDonkey network completely shut down?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> !flash9 | Shadowpillar
[09:28] <ubotu> Shadowpillar: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[09:28] <Shadowpillar> only drawback
[09:29] <Shadowpillar> no 64-bit
[09:29] <Shadowpillar> and nspluginwrapper is buggy
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: never was never will be
[09:29] <Flannel> zorda: open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, then paste the contens to that website
[09:29] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: what?
[09:30] <zorda> Flannel:  where is that list file at?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: flash has no plans to make a 64bit version
[09:30] <realfolkblues> Also how do i access my other harddrives it wont let me
[09:30] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: that's a load of crap
[09:30] <mnepton> gnomefreak: i thought Emmy's answer was "we'll see what things look like after the 32 bit version drops."
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: no its not
[09:31] <Shadowpillar> adobe has plans, but it'll be released later
[09:31] <netG> My firewall ports are opened | also tried to stop firewall...
[09:31] <zorda> danm it i really REALY ned to read the manules
[09:31] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: look up the penguin.swf blog
[09:31] <netG> bul still lowID , I think my provider has a NAT
[09:31] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: "As I said before it is not a question of 'recompiling' the source code, there is lots of generic non platform specific work which needs to be finished first. We will ship a 64bit version for Windows, OS X Leopard and GNU/Linux. It will happen. When? ... When it is ready."
[09:32] <Shadowpillar> I dont see anything about "NEVER, WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT 64 BIT"
[09:32] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: it wont be anytime soon
[09:32] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: I give it until january or feb
[09:32] <Flannel> zorda: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:32] <mnepton> Shadowpillar: you also don;t see a release date or even a rough timetable. "when it's ready" can easil;y be "never."
[09:32] <gnomefreak> your lucky if flash 9 is released by than
[09:32] <Shadowpillar> well, look bacl
[09:33] <Shadowpillar> back*
[09:33] <[H] 3b0R> will the release of firefox 2.0 include in edgy eft release?
[09:33] <Shadowpillar> flash 9 beta was to be released "when it's ready"
[09:33] <Shadowpillar> ;)
[09:33] <gnomefreak> [H] 3b0R: yes
[09:33] <Shadowpillar> and lo and behold
[09:33] <Flannel> [H] 3b0R: yes, it already is.
[09:33] <Shadowpillar> means they have plans
[09:33] <gnomefreak> [H] 3b0R: there already
[09:33] <zorda> Flannel:  where is /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:33] <Flannel> zorda: /etc/apt/sources.list (that's a file path)
[09:33] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: flash9 will be released in 2007
[09:33] <[H] 3b0R> gnomefreak, flannel: why havent i got update yet?
[09:33] <Flannel> zorda: ctrl-f2, then type this: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:33] <gnomefreak> [H] 3b0R: for what?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> [H] 3b0R: are you on edgy?
[09:34] <Flannel> zorda: er, alt-f2 sorry
[09:34] <[H] 3b0R> gnomefreak: yes
[09:34] <Flannel> zorda: it'll bring up a 'run' dialog thing
[09:34] <gnomefreak> [H] 3b0R: it will be rc 2 as final release for edgy
[09:34] <zorda> flannel whoa this linux is usefull
[09:34] <nomad111> hey all im in deep trouble is there a way for me to  revert a file in xubuntu
[09:34] <bioshater> nomad111: which one?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> [H] 3b0R: join #ubuntu+1 okease for edgy
[09:35] <nomad111> the menu.xml file
[09:35] <nomad111> for my applications menu
[09:35] <nomad111> in xfce
[09:35] <[H] 3b0R> gnomefreak: oh ok
[09:35] <nomad111> i did edit menu and press something and closed quickly and then next thing i kno i cant open the applications menu or do right- click on the desktop
[09:35] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: however, consider this, the fact Vista will be 64 bit, where their core market uses, means that the core interpreter (which is what holds them back atm) will have to upgraded
[09:35] <nomad111> is there a way to go back to default
[09:35] <bioshater> nomad111: where is it located?
[09:35] <zorda> Flannel:  i have pasted it at theat website
[09:36] <Flannel> zorda: take the URL it gave you and paste it here ;)
[09:36] <nomad111> /home/prodigy/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
[09:36] <Shadowpillar> and 64 bit linux is ready, so there will be a 64 bit version, in fact this may spark its development for all future 64 bit systems
[09:36] <zorda> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27939/
[09:36] <nomad111> bioshater, /home/prodigy/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
[09:36] <realfolkblues> i have a question, if i mount a ntfs partition can i edit the contents or just read em? i'm getting mixed answers
[09:36] <Shadowpillar> so I dont think adobe is not gonna ever have 64 bit support like you're saying
[09:37] <zorda> realfolkblues:  both i just did it myself
[09:37] <Madpilot> realfolkblues, by default, read-only for NTFS; there are various writing options, not all safe
[09:37] <nomad111> realfolkblues, u could get a tool to edit them but its dangerous
[09:37] <Shadowpillar> in fact, adobe seems to be more linux friendly than macromedia ever was
[09:37] <bioshater> nomad111: just booted the live cd. i don't have this file in /home/ubuntu/.config/xfce4/desktop
[09:37] <netG> nomad111 , do you whant to get default menu settings?
[09:37] <Flannel> zorda: well, the us mirror sometimes goes down, it might be that.  I can't see any repositories there that scream broken though.
[09:37] <nomad111> yes please
[09:37] <teledyn> anyone had success building vmware modules for edgy kernel?
[09:37] <nomad111> netG, that would perfect
[09:37] <bioshater> nomad111: i don't even have the desktop dir in there
[09:37] <nomad111> lol
[09:37] <realfolkblues> madewokherd: so is there a way to make my ntfs into fat or somthing else so i can access em?
[09:38] <nomad111> netG, the default layout would be fine like if u can have it in a pastebin
[09:38] <nomad111> and link me
[09:38] <nomad111> coz i just did a fresh install of xubuntu
[09:38] <netG> nomad111 : you have to logout , access console fron GDM , remove the menu.xml file and then login in XFCE
[09:38] <nomad111> ah k ill give it a shot
[09:38] <Shadowpillar> gnomefreak: of course, arent you the one who was arguing with me a few weeks back that flash 9 beta would be released next september?
[09:39] <zorda> ok FLannel thanks for helpng but i need NEED to go and read the maules
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: no i told you it would be released in 2007 it was supposed to be release in sept 2006 but fell behind
[09:39] <zorda> i never read manules
[09:39] <zorda> ....never..
[09:39] <zorda> but in this case i have too
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Shadowpillar: this os very offtopic for this channel please move it to one of the -offtopic channels
[09:40] <Shadowpillar> not what you originally said but anyway off to other things
[09:40] <Flannel> zorda: help.ubuntu.com has a lot of information
[09:42] <realfolkblues> so how do i mount an ntfs hard drive so i can get my data off b4 i reformat it?
[09:42] <Ackart-The-Fox> Hoo boy. Okay, I'm trying to get an internal dial up modem working with Ubuntu. I'm completely lost.
[09:42] <Flannel> !ntfs
[09:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:42] <bioshater> zorda: in linux you have to read manuals at least for command line tools. but it's really worth it.
[09:43] <mnepton> Ackart-The-Fox: my gues is that you don;t have a modem, but a cheap sound card disguised as a "modem" (i.e. a Winmodem)
[09:43] <Ackart-The-Fox> Most likely.
[09:44] <Ackart-The-Fox> It came out of a Dell. It'll be the bottom-of-the-barrel cheap.
[09:44] <mnepton> it's a PCI card?
[09:44] <Ackart-The-Fox> Yep.
[09:45] <bioshater> .oO(and dell came out of hell)
[09:45] <mnepton> Ackart-The-Fox: it's possible to get some Winmodems working, but it's ugly. the best bet is to just buy an honest-to-god external hardware modem.
[09:46] <Ackart-The-Fox> Fantastic. If I had money, I'd buy a wireless card and use the ~real~ internet in this house. >.<
[09:47] <zorda> hey umm what file typw is that foot?
[09:47] <mneptok> Ackart-The-Fox: PCI wifi cards are uber-cheap. less than a modem.
[09:47] <zorda> like a exe eqvalint?
[09:47] <Ackart-The-Fox> Yeah, I know.
[09:47] <bh__> Is there's a FAQ on getting Macro Media Flash installed ?>
[09:48] <susscorfa> !flash
[09:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:49] <bh__> thanks
[09:49] <susscorfa> np
[09:49] <zorda> aww
[09:49] <zorda> i want doom@
[09:49] <poningru> !doom
[09:49] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:49] <zorda> thak ye
[09:50] <KenSentMe> How do i share my printer over the network to other Ubuntu clients?
[09:51] <zorda> whoa so there are games to be played here
[09:51] <zorda> ...........
[09:51] <zorda> net split?
[09:52] <zorda> can i open .tar.gz files on ubuntu?
[09:52] <Skygge> yes....
[09:52] <zorda> thank you
[09:53] <zorda> whoa they had unix in the '60s?
[09:53] <timhaughton> Whenever I try to configure my MultiTail gDesklet, the Python proc goes to 100% processor usage and I have to kill it. Anyone else see similar behaviour?
[09:53] <zorda> hmm
[09:54] <Ackart-The-Fox> Well, thanks for your help, mneptok. I'll just throw Windows on that box until I can get the wireless card.
[09:54] <LookTJ> hmmmm
[09:54] <Skygge> Does anyone know how to start azureus over ssh remotely? if I try to just open it, with or without the "&", it gives errors about swt widgets etc.
[09:54] <bioshater> zorda: if you plan to build some program from source (compiling), better look for a prebuilt package that can be installed with the package manager
[09:54] <Skygge> unix has been around almost as long as computers
[09:54] <zorda> hmm
[09:55] <bioshater> zorda: building from source should be the last resort, if no packaged version is available
[09:55] <zorda> umm
[09:55] <zorda> im just tring to geta game...
[09:55] <zorda> you mean im dling code?
[09:56] <Skygge> source = code
[09:56] <bioshater> zorda: not downloading it yourself. if there is a package, the package manager does that for you
[09:56] <mbeton> how can I play avi files in totem?
[09:57] <mbeton> what am I to install?
[09:57] <mbeton> !avi
[09:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:57] <bioshater> zorda: read about enabling package repositories, enable them and try to install the game from the repos
[09:57] <bioshater> !repositories
[09:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:58] <bioshater> zorda: read the URL ubotu pasted
[09:58] <mbeton> btw how can I copy past sth into terminal?
[09:58] <mbeton> (paste)
[09:59] <bioshater> mbeton: mark text with the left mouse button, paste it with the middle button
[09:59] <bioshater> mbeton: but don't paste multiple lines here, use pastebin instead
[10:00] <mbeton> bioshater: no, I wanted to execute some script and I didn't want to copy all the text manually
[10:00] <bioshater> mbeton: ah okay
[10:01] <KenSentMe> How do i share my printer over the network to other Ubuntu clients?
[10:02] <teledyn> anyone had success building vmware modules for edgy kernel?
[10:04] <Rondom> teledyn: have you applied the vmware-any-any-patch?
[10:04] <teledyn> Rondom: no.  never heard of it.
[10:04] <momal> anyone know a way to can make every program in ubuntu (includeing console programs) to use a specified proxy? (so all network traffic(to the internet) to be put through the proxy)
[10:05] <zorda> !mp3
[10:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:06] <teledyn> Rondom: aha.  http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=76957&tstart=0      thanks.
[10:06] <zorda> CRAP am i gonna have to convert ALL of my stuff to ogg!??!?!?!
[10:06] <Rondom> teledyn: yes, that's the patch I meant.
[10:07] <Madpilot> zorda, no, you can get mp3 playing
[10:08] <Madpilot> zorda, read the first link in the blurb you got the bot to produce there...
[10:10] <zorda> holybatman crap
[10:10] <rag> Radio of your wireless card is off
[10:10] <zorda> they have a keenote speaker for a pic showing the player!
[10:10] <rag> radio off, how to activate it, i dont remember how to, echo 1 ... > file
[10:11] <teledyn> Rondom: woohoo!  it compiled.
[10:12] <zorda> well so how long until the noob feeling wears off?
[10:13] <zorda> a month?
[10:13] <imhotepp> how can I easily append paths to my $PATH var?
[10:13] <imhotepp> I tried using .bash_profile to no avail :(
[10:14] <rag> how to activate wifi on boot?
[10:14] <rag> please
[10:14] <Madpilot> zorda, depends on how deep you get into Ubuntu & Linux. You can arrange to have the "noob feeling" never wear off :)
[10:14] <rag> on laptop without bios config possible
[10:15] <teledyn> imhotepp: ~/.bash_profile should be sourced
[10:15] <teledyn> imhotepp: does the path show up if you manually source it?
[10:15] <zorda> Madpilot:  OH TEH NOTES!
[10:16] <imhotepp> "manually source" = export PATH=$PATH:/my/path?
[10:16] <zorda> Mad ^_^
[10:16] <teledyn> imhotepp: source ~/.bash_profile
[10:16] <teledyn> or just . ~/.bash_profile
[10:16] <imhotepp> shouldnt it be automagically executed on login?
[10:17] <wickedpuppy>  imhotepp i suggest .bashrc
[10:17] <teledyn> imhotepp: yeah but we're trying to rule things out here.  so first find out if it picks it up when you manually source it
[10:18] <tox--> I am trying to install edgy on a dell gx620, X fails to start, i read that modifying xorg.conf and assing vesa should work to get it installed, but i can't login, is there a default user that i could logon as?
[10:18] <imhotepp> teledyn:yes it does
[10:18] <tox--> s/assing/adding
[10:19] <wickedpuppy> tox--, #ubuntu+1 , there is a default user of course .... the user that you configured while installing ... unless you never get that stage
[10:19] <teledyn> imhotepp: odd that its not being sourced when you login.  you could put it in ~/.bashrc or /etc/profile if you want it system-wide
[10:19] <inglor> hey, I'm having some problems with my wlan
[10:19] <inglor> I can't get it to work
[10:20] <inglor> the wlan card doesn't pick up any networks, it used to work fine before
[10:20] <tox--> wickedpuppy: i can't start X to get it installed, thats the problem
[10:20] <rag> inglor: use iwconfig to see what network is associated
[10:20] <teledyn> inglor: wlanassistant does that to me often.  i find that using iwconfig on the command line is much more reliable.
[10:20] <tox--> and I can't boot in safe graphics either
[10:20] <wickedpuppy> tox--, tried dapper live cd ? or knoppix ?
[10:21] <teledyn> inglor: and use iwlist to scan
[10:21] <inglor> yeah, I use iwconfig
[10:21] <rag> inglor, and?
[10:21] <inglor> the network is associated with nothing, and iwlist returns nothing
[10:21] <inglor> windows finds the network just fine
[10:21] <tox--> wickedpuppy: i want to use edgy, and i am using the edgy-desktopi386.iso cd
[10:21] <rag> inglor, ok what card do you have? lspci
[10:21] <rag> lspci
[10:21] <wickedpuppy> tox--, edgy still in beta ... are you aware of it ?
[10:21] <teledyn> inglor: maybe you need to set the roaming option with iwpriv?  just a guess?
[10:22] <wickedpuppy> unless it is officially out while i was sleeping
[10:22] <inglor> lemme check
[10:22] <tox--> wickedpuppy: yeah I know that, i was just asking if theres a way to edit the xorg on the livecd, so I can start X to get it installed
[10:23] <wickedpuppy> tox--, its rare that X can't start on the livecd .... i suggest you try other live cds first
[10:23] <timhaughton> Is there any way to specify a maximum size for the .Trash folder?
[10:24] <tox--> yeah, i read that edgy has a problem with ati x600, which im using, and they said that editing the xorg.conf should work, thats why i need the login info to be able to edit the file :p
[10:25] <wickedpuppy> tox--, try root
[10:25] <mnepton> tox--: so boot the desktop CD, mount the / filesystem on the drive, and then edit xorg.conf
[10:25] <mnepton> s/drive/hard\ drive/
[10:26] <shriphani> mnepton, am getting new hardware... should i get an amd or an intel ?
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, then how does he save the edited xorg on the cd ? can it be done ?
[10:26] <tox--> ofc not
[10:26] <tox--> i just read that using the alternate cd has a text install, that should do the trick
[10:26] <wickedpuppy> then whats the point of editing something you can't save ?
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> tox--, yes it does ..
[10:27] <tox--> maybe it put the xorg on a ramdrive, then i can edit it
[10:27] <tox--> but i can't login
[10:27] <tox--> :p
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> tox--, root ...
[10:27] <wickedpuppy> tried it yet ?
[10:27] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: he saves it to the mounted file system
[10:27] <mnepton> shriphani: what's the intended use of this machine?
[10:28] <Gnomer__> >:D @ mnepton
[10:28] <shriphani> mnepton, i want to use it to learn about comps
[10:28] <rvalles> I'd love to have Xorg 7.1 on my Dapper. Is that available in any apt repository?
[10:29] <shriphani> i have a lappy now which i wanna leave alone
[10:29] <mnepton> amber alert! Gnomer__ has wandered off! anyone seeing a sarcastic, bitter nerd is asked to notify authorities and not dispense any caffiene or processed sucrose!
[10:29] <rvalles> (I'm having trouble with synaptics and think this may help fix my issues)
[10:29] <Gnomer__> mnepton, Ze precious!
[10:29] <tox--> wickedpuppy: was the first account i tried
[10:29] <Gnomer__> Rofl, just coming to say hi mnepton
[10:29] <mnepton> shriphani: the big drawback to AMD64 on the desktop is a lack of a Flash plugin or Win32 media codecs (if that's, indeed, a drawback)
[10:30] <schreu> hi, does anyone know a calendar application that imports .ics files, not evolution or thunderbird plugins
[10:30] <rvalles> mnepton: no caffeine, no sugar?
[10:30] <Gnomer__> Got a VNC guy on right now, gotta bail. So hi!
[10:30] <rvalles> mnepton: this is inhuman, too cruel.
[10:30] <wickedpuppy> tox--, and it doesn't work ? ubuntu ? i am brainstorming the names btw :P
[10:30] <tox--> wickedpuppy: tried that as well
[10:30] <shriphani> mnepton, i think i can install the i386 version in a chroot
[10:30] <mnepton> shriphani: sure, or install the i386 version instead of AMD64.
[10:31] <wickedpuppy> tox--, well then you can complain about this in #ubuntu+1 :P
[10:31] <variant> mnepton: yeah you can install 32bit versions in chroot
[10:31] <Link9618> How do I install firestarter?
[10:31] <variant> Link9618: apt-get install firestarter
[10:31] <tox--> what is #ubuntu+1 for?
[10:31] <mnepton> tox--: Edgy
[10:31] <variant> tox--: development version
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> tox--: Edgy discussion
[10:31] <nomad111> am i doing something wrong or are all the packages in synaptics out of date with current software version
[10:31] <Link9618> It's not in the repositories
[10:31] <nomad111> s
[10:31] <nomad111> ie OpenOffice and eclipse
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> !universe | Link9618
[10:31] <ubotu> Link9618: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:32] <noia> where can I find the error log of X ?
[10:32] <variant> noia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> nomad111: Depends how out of date they are.  Normally things won't be updated after a release except for security fixes.
[10:33] <wickedpuppy> noia, almost all logs are in /var/log :P
[10:33] <Link9618> explain that agian
[10:33] <variant> !easysource
[10:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> nomad111: LTS releases however, are a little different.  So, if you're running dapper, they should be at the versions from the first maintenance release, which I believe was in July/early august perhaps.
[10:33] <inglor> hey, sorry, my internet hung up
[10:34] <inglor> still can't get my wireless card to work properly
[10:34] <mbeton> I installed w32codecs and did rm -rf ~/.gstreamer-0.10 but I still can't play avi files:(
[10:34] <seshomaru> hi - im in the middle of a big download (thru apt-get) but we will have a power cut soon and i am wondering will i have redownload everything if the power goes down before the download is complete?
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> Link9618: You likely aren't seeing them in the repos b/c you don't have all the repos enabled.  Those instructions tell you how to get all repos.
[10:34] <nomad111> tonyyarusso, well for example in my synaptic package manager it has eclipse 3.1.2 when the current version is 3.2.something and yes im using 6.0.6LTS
[10:34] <variant> seshomaru: it will resume
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> !info eclipse dapper
[10:34] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> mbeton, all i did was install gstreamer and vlc and i been playing avi for ages
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> nomad111: You have what you should have.
[10:34] <Link9618> How
[10:34] <shriphani> dash it the box hung
[10:35] <seshomaru> variant, thanks a lot!
[10:35] <American-Tech> I need help with sound
[10:35] <shriphani> mnepton, you say i must install the i386 on a 64 bit amd ?
[10:36] <seshomaru> variant, let me see if i understand correctly - after the i restart the computer , i need to give apt the exact same commands and it will continue from where it was when the power went down?
[10:36] <mbeton> how can I install gstreamer?
[10:36] <mbeton> apt-get install gstreamer doesn't work
[10:36] <mbeton> !gstreamer
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <American-Tech> I installed ubuntu and have all the latest updates. IT list my sound device but there is no sound
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> seshomaru: Yep
[10:37] <Arcad3> mbeton:
[10:37] <seshomaru> tonyyarusso, thanks!
[10:37] <Arcad3> all the codecs
[10:37] <Arcad3> or just gtreamer?
[10:37] <mbeton> Arcad3: all the codecs including
[10:37] <Rejo> goodmorning
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> mbeton: See various pieces on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, or just sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-* I suppose
[10:38] <Arcad3> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \ gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \ gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse w32codecs
[10:38] <Arcad3> got that mbeton?
[10:38] <Link9618> And then I'll be able to download firestarter and Gnome-mud?
[10:38] <mnepton> shriphani: you don;t have to, but it saves installing a chroot
[10:38] <shriphani> mnepton, its like pop it in and run it ?
[10:39] <shriphani> mnepton, is it as simple as installing it on an intel
[10:39] <mbeton> Arcad3: not, it doesn't work (command not found)
[10:40] <Arcad3> change the repositories
[10:40] <mnepton> shriphani: yup
[10:40] <mbeton> Arcad3: Aucune version du paquet gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg n'est disponible, mais il existe dans la base
[10:40] <mnepton> !fr > mbeton
[10:40] <shriphani> mnepton, so i dont need that 64 bit cd
[10:40] <mbeton> Arcad3: how can I change the repositories?
[10:40] <Arcad3> wait
[10:40] <mnepton> shriphani: need? no.
[10:40] <mbeton> mnepton: It was the error message I got
[10:40] <Arcad3> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:41] <shriphani> mnepton, what about the apps
[10:41] <Rejo> situation: lost root password, no other users, running dapper; when booting with "single" etc, I still need to enter root password, when booting with "single init=/bin/sh" i get a prompt tells me at passwd "authentication service cannot retrieve atuhentication info" - any clue?
[10:41] <mnepton> shriphani: you'll use i386 versions. it all "just works."
[10:41] <nomad111> is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude
[10:41] <shriphani> mnepton, what are the advantages of using the 64 bit ubuntu as opposed to the 32 bit
[10:42] <mnepton> shriphani: few, unless you have >/=4GB of memory
[10:42] <FallenHitokiri> every gtk-theme i install isn't drawn correctly. it looks like the default gtk-scrollbars (for example) are used instread of the images in the theme. i tryed this with 2 different themes on 2 different systems (both edgy) what can i do?
[10:42] <Link9618> I saw nothing at the links you gave me
[10:42] <noia> can anyone here help with xgl problems?
[10:42] <shriphani> mnepton, care to mention one if i am not irritating you
[10:43] <nomad111> !gksudo
[10:43] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[10:43] <Lynoure> FallenHitokiri: better edgy help is still on #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <mnepton> shriphani: one what? advantage? *slightly* faster code xecution.
[10:43] <mnepton> +e
[10:43] <FallenHitokiri> Lynoure: thanks
[10:43] <shriphani> mnepton, oh
[10:43] <nomad111> !aptitude
[10:43] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[10:44] <Arcad3> how to make a shortcut?
[10:44] <nomad111> so aptitude is better than apt-get
[10:44] <shriphani> and this shows up just when my drive size runs in excess of 4 gigs ?
[10:44] <shriphani> Arcad3, ln -s
[10:44] <Link9618> ?
[10:44] <American-Tech> I need help getting sound to work
[10:44] <mnepton> shriphani: i said memory, not drive size ;)
[10:44] <shriphani> mnepton, ahh
[10:44] <Rejo> no one here to give me a small hint in solving this password problem?
[10:44] <mnepton> Rejo: boot off CD and use the rescue mode
[10:44] <shriphani> i might get a 2 gig ram but no way 4 gig
[10:45] <Rejo> mnepton: ack will try - it's a dapper server install, does it matter which cd i use and also, it's having raid1 config, would that be an additional hurdle?
[10:46] <Arcad3> thanks shriphani
[10:46] <cafuego> Rejo: password problem?
[10:46] <Rejo> cafuego: see about 50 lines above
[10:46] <Link9618> I can't update my list of programs to add or remove
[10:46] <Link9618> I saw nothing at the links you gave me
[10:47] <cafuego> Rejo: Did you manually inspect /etc/passwd and /et/shadow to make sure the info for root is there?
[10:47] <KenSentMe> Rejo: can you choose the rescue mode in grub?
[10:47] <mnepton> Rejo: jusdt use your server install CD
[10:47] <cafuego> Rejo: (The init=/bin/sh is indeed the easiest way)
[10:47] <Link9618> ?
[10:47] <Rejo> cafuego: that wont work
[10:47] <shriphani> mnepton, then to bug myself can i put the amd64 kernel in an i386 install ?
[10:47] <jenda> Where are the desktop backgrounds stored?
[10:47] <Rejo> cafuego: that will still ask me for a root password
[10:47] <mnepton> shriphani: no
[10:47] <shriphani> hmm
[10:48] <Rejo> cafuego: it's just on dapper the usual doesn't work
[10:48] <shriphani> mnepton, wait.... i plan to run this box on vnc
[10:48] <cafuego> Rejo: No, just boots you right into a shell running as root.
[10:48] <shriphani> so i got no screen there
[10:48] <noia> I'v installed Xgl, but when I go to log into the Xgl server, it stalls and then throws an error message saying the session logged out in under 10 seconds etc...any ideas?
[10:48] <Rejo> cafuego: no, it doesn't, it tells me to give root passwd or ctrl-d to continue
[10:49] <cafuego> Rejo: Not if you boot with init=/bin/sh and _not_ recovery mode.
[10:49] <shriphani> mnepton, so i think flash and w32 codecs aint a necessity
[10:49] <Rejo> KenSentMe: rescue mode in KenSentMe still requires me to give root password
[10:49] <Rejo> cafuego: sure it does.
[10:50] <Rejo> cafuego: i have tried it of course, otherwise i wouldt even come here...
[10:50] <cafuego> Rejo: No, if you boot 'linux-foo-version root=/dev/blah init=/bin/sh' it does *NOT* ask for any passwords.
[10:51] <Rejo> cafuego: i will try again as soon as i amnout this rescue disc mode
[10:51] <Rejo> cafuego: i am sure it does
[10:51] <cafuego> Rejo: it can't, as it doesn't run code that would ask for passwords. init does that, sh does not.
[10:51] <shriphani> cafuego, i got a few things to ask you
[10:51] <cafuego> shriphani: cafuego is not currently in - leave a message after the ^G
[10:52] <Rejo> cafuego: the only moment i don't get a password request is whenever i run "init=/bin/sh single" - but than i get the other error (presumebly because /. is mounted readonly and i cannot remount it rw)
[10:52] <cafuego> Rejo: Nobody said you needed 'single' in there. You can remount / read-write easily enough though. 'mount -n -o remount,rw  /'
[10:53] <Rejo> that didnt work, but hold on, rebooting now
[10:53] <shriphani> i plan to run an amd box with vnc (aint getting the screen)...... i am getting a linksys router and a cat 5 cable for it. what all do i need to put on my box ?
[10:53] <cafuego> Rejo: 'single' is a param for '/sbin/init' (tells it to run recovery mode and asks for password). init=/bin/sh bypasses /sbin/init altogether.
[10:53] <The_C> re
[10:54] <Rejo> cafuego: i now am in grub edit mode. first kernel edit, not the resue one, i now add "init=/bin/sh" at the end. line now is "kernel $kernel root=/dev/md2 ro quiet splash init=/bin/sh". right?
[10:55] <Rejo> v
[10:55] <cafuego> Rejo: Aaah I see.
[10:55] <Rejo> cafuego: other lines are root (hd0,0) ; initrd $initrd ; savedefault and boot
[10:55] <Rejo> cafuego: that is right?
[10:55] <American-Tech> Looking for help getting sound enabled
[10:56] <cafuego> Rejo: "kernel $kernel root=/dev/md2 ro init=/bin/sh"
[10:56] <Rejo> cafuego: ok. mmt. will change and boot.
[10:56] <noia> can anyone help with Xgl woes?
[10:56] <cafuego> Rejo: I *think* it will mount the raid stuff via the initrd ...
[10:56] <cafuego> noia: #ubuntu-gxl
[10:56] <shriphani> cafuego, umm my last post was addressed to you
[10:56] <Rejo> cafuego: it will
[10:57] <cafuego> shriphani: vncserver and ssh :-)
[10:57] <noia> cafuego: thats all well and fine but theres no one active >.<
[10:57] <Rejo> cafuego: now i don;t get a primpt. still need to remount root, one moment
[10:57] <shriphani> cafuego, i am not establishing a network here
[10:57] <shriphani> the box is gonna sit beside me
[10:57] <shriphani> so why do i need ssh
[10:58] <cafuego> shriphani: well, the amd will run vncserver and whatever you use as client would have vncviewer. 9ssh is always handy)
[10:58] <Arcad3> how to change file owner os a file
[10:58] <Rejo> cafuego: root partition is mounted correctly ii believe (rw, errors=remount-ro)
[10:58] <cafuego> Rejo: Ok, can you run 'mount -n -o remount,rw /'  ?
[10:58] <Rejo> cafuego: when chaing password it now says: authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info
[10:58] <Rejo> cafuego: i did
[10:59] <shriphani> cafuego, what do i type in a terminal to use vnc ?
[10:59] <cafuego> Rejo: Ok, check /etc/passwd for a properly formed line for root.
[10:59] <cafuego> shriphani: Start the vncserver (vncserver --help) on the amd, then run 'vncviewer <server ip>'
[11:00] <cafuego> shriphani: it will ask you for your password.
[11:00] <shriphani> cafuego, thx
[11:00] <shriphani> goodbye folks
[11:00] <Rejo> cafuego: /etc/passwd was allright, /etc/shadow- i have removed the chars between second and third colon
[11:01] <cafuego> Rejo: So you have "root::13402:0:99999:7:::" now? (with different numbers...)
[11:02] <Rejo> cafuego: mmm... one more try
[11:02] <xsacha> hi there... i added this 32-bit rep to my sources list and then updates, but then i realised i wanted 64-bit version, so i added 64-bit version and then updated.. how do i remove the 32-bit entries that were updated?
[11:02] <cafuego> Rejo: /etc/shadow-  is a BACKUP, check /etc/shadow
[11:02] <Rejo> cafuego: aah. /etc/shadow seems to be empty.
[11:02] <xsacha> or did the 64-bit ones go over the top? im not sure
[11:03] <rag> how to install network manager , software name?
[11:03] <cafuego> Rejo: That will be the problem then.
[11:03] <Rejo> cafuego: one moment... booting
[11:03] <cafuego> Rejo: Just copy the backup back :-)
[11:03] <Rejo> cafuego: that is not that easy
[11:04] <Rejo> cafuego: when doint an ls -la it says input/output error
[11:04] <Hapo> I have had a weird problem after upgrading from dapper to edgy. after the boot sequence my screen goes black and nothing happens. when I switch to a virtual text console and then back to the X console, X begins to start up... with might be the problem here?
[11:04] <Rejo> cafuego: when ls'ing i see   "r-------- ? ? ? ? shadow"
[11:05] <Rejo> cafuego: as i don;t understand where that comes from, i think i will do a fresh install
[11:05] <cafuego> Rejo: ouch
[11:05] <noia> no-one here can help with xgl problems?
[11:06] <Rejo> cafuego: input/output error due to ro fs, fixed this, now one last attempt in reboot
[11:07] <Rejo> cafuego: if doesnt work i will do a fresh install too avoid any future problems
[11:07] <Rejo> cafuego: thank you for you help anywat
[11:07] <davvs> how can i re-read the /etc/network/interfaces file? restart the daemon?
[11:07] <American-Tech> Lookiing for help with getting sound working
[11:09] <jenda> Where are the desktop backgrounds stored?
[11:10] <l3on> hi
[11:10] <gnomefreak> jenda: /usr/share?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> /usr/share/wallpapers/All-Good-People-1.jpg  is one
[11:11] <Rejo> cafuego: oke, i have it back running
[11:11] <gnomefreak> locate only shows usr/share and /var/docs
[11:11] <Rejo> cafuego: ty
[11:12] <ubuntu> ss+
[11:13] <jenda> gnomefreak: got it - /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:13] <jenda> thanks
[11:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:13] <American-Tech> Looking help getting sound working..
[11:13] <joona> davvs: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:14] <davvs> thanks joona :-)
[11:14] <joona> no prob
[11:15] <l3on> Anyone know command line to set a directory thumbnail ?
[11:17] <lazzareth> Gday world
[11:18] <lazzareth> I need an application that can record what windows calls "what you hear" or PCM, only about 10 seconds or so with simple cropping abilities ?
[11:18] <l3on> lazzareth, ???
[11:18] <lazzareth> hey?
[11:18] <lazzareth> Gday
[11:18] <lazzareth> Do I know you?
[11:19] <Hapo> at least audacity can do that, but you need to run it through aoss
[11:19] <Hapo> and enable the setting "stereo mix" in the mixer
[11:19] <lazzareth> Hapo, Yes, i think my problem last time was that .. well i wasnt running it through aoss
[11:19] <lazzareth> Ok, Ill let you know if i run into any problems
[11:20] <American-Tech> Looking for help with sound problems
[11:21] <Rookie_> !ask
[11:22] <lazzareth> Hapo Where is the Mixer Options?
[11:24] <Hapo> lazzareth: just click on the small speaker icon in the lower-right corner of the screen.
[11:24] <Hapo> I can't help you much with gnome as I'm using KDE
[11:24] <Hapo> so you have to wait for others to reply :/
[11:24] <lazzareth> So the settings not in audacity
[11:25] <Hapo> no
[11:25] <l3on> !repeat
[11:26] <lazzareth> ok, But it still wont let me record in the meanwhile .. im recording from the device /dev/dsp    which is the only one listed
[11:26] <fatbrain> Is there someway to reset the password for the keyring?
[11:26] <crew> hey, quick question.. how do you reset apache2?
[11:26] <Terminus> crew: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[11:26] <gnomefreak> crew: reset like restart?
[11:26] <crew> thanks :)
[11:26] <Terminus> crew: or do you mean reset the config to defaults?
[11:26] <crew> gnome; yeah
[11:27] <gnomefreak> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart will also work
[11:27] <crew> Terminus, no your right.. just to restart it... had changed some things and they hadn't taken effect
[11:27] <l3on> Anyone know as to set an directory icon ?
[11:27] <Terminus> yeah but invoke-rc.d is the canonical way. =D
[11:27] <crew> gnomefreak, that sounds easier :P
[11:27] <crew> Terminus, any difference?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> no it does same thing crew just different command
[11:28] <Terminus> crew: not really. invoke-rc.d is more like a wrapper script.
[11:28] <crew> hmm
[11:28] <crew> still didnt work anyway :P
[11:29] <gnomefreak> the commands didnt work or it didnt fix what you thought was the issue?
[11:29] <crew> was editing /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:29] <crew> was trying to have index.php above index.html
[11:29] <est> Hi all
[11:29] <crew> commands worked... what i was doing prior didnt
[11:29] <crew> hi
[11:29] <Terminus> crew: put it before index.html in the Directory Index.
[11:30] <crew> yeah i did "S
[11:30] <crew> :S
[11:30] <Terminus> crew: is mod_php loaded? check your /etc/apache/mods-enabled/
[11:30] <crew> mmm...
[11:30] <crew> maybe not
[11:30] <mnepton> did you install mod_php?
[11:30] <est> I tried to install Kubuntu 6.10 but I found the Chinese chrarctors not complete. What can I  do?
[11:30] <mnepton> it is not included with the PHP packages
[11:31] <gnomefreak> est: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[11:31] <est> some charactors are replaced by a dot
[11:31] <Terminus> crew: php4/5 should have AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 in php?.conf
[11:31] <crew> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled$ ls
[11:31] <crew> cgi.load   perl.load  php5.load     userdir.load
[11:31] <crew> perl.conf  php5.conf  userdir.conf
[11:31] <rag> which is wifi channel on ubuntu, is there?
[11:31] <rag> please
[11:31] <crew> Terminus, confusing :S
[11:32] <KenSentMe> rag: what do you mean? A irc channel on wifi support in ubuntu?
[11:32] <rag> KenSentMe: both
[11:32] <Terminus> crew: it should just work. tried creating index.php with <?php phpinfo(); ?> ?
[11:32] <crew> Terminus, ah yeah i understand now... it does have that exact line
[11:33] <crew> Terminus, what do you mean by <?php phpinfo(); ?> ?
[11:33] <Terminus> crew: that should generate a webpage with the php configuration.
[11:34] <wickedpuppy> crew, try it
[11:34] <crew> if i just type http://ipaddress/index.php it shows... but i dont want to have to keep writing that
[11:34] <wickedpuppy> btw it should be the first php lesson on most php books
[11:34] <porkpie__> hi guy's ...just trying to install ubuntu on my old sony vaio and it seems to hang when loading hardware drivers ??
[11:34] <crew> just want to type http://ipaddress
[11:35] <wickedpuppy> crew, then just ipaddress ? i never have to type index.php
[11:35] <crew> wickedpuppy, yeah i know... i had it working a while back with 5.04, but i reinstalled with 5.10
[11:36] <crew> had trouble since
[11:36] <Terminus> crew: it should do that if you don't put a .html file in root dir anyway.
[11:36] <wickedpuppy> crew, i suggest #php
[11:37] <crew> mmm... yeah
[11:37] <porkpie__> crew:is apache running
[11:37] <crew> wickedpuppy, my original question was related.... just strayed
[11:38] <crew> porkpie, heh.. yeah
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> crew, pardon me .. i didn't read your original question
[11:38] <cjari> Hi, I'm trying to make a boot disk which allows to start installing ubuntu over network and as far as i understand I need bootdisk.img and drvnet.img files first, where do you optain these?
[11:38] <Wheelybin> !ftp
[11:38] <porkpie__> crew:what are you trying to do ??
[11:39] <crew> wickedpuppy, original has been sorted.. was just trying to find how to get *.php above *.html
[11:39] <crew> think i may have found the cause of the problem htough
[11:39] <simeon> #php
[11:39] <mnepton> crew: sounds like apache is looking for index.html before index.php or you have MIME type settings problems or you have fixed these things but have not restarted apache
[11:39] <porkpie__> guy's why is the livecd hanging when loading hardware drivers
[11:39] <crew> damned cahce
[11:40] <Terminus> crew: it should just be DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.cgi index.pl index.xhtml
[11:40] <davvs> why is not my encryption key(specified in "/etc/network/interfaces") set when my computer starts, but it is set when i restart the service with "/etc/init.d/networking restart"
[11:40] <crew> cache was the problem
[11:40] <Terminus> crew: oh... cache! hahaha
[11:40] <Terminus> crew: forgot to refresh? :)
[11:40] <asad2005> I have aproblem installing edgy rc from live cd gui installer, is there atext based installer that i can use
[11:40] <crew> Terminus, nah i was refreshing... just using firefox under windows pc to check....
[11:40] <KenSentMe> asad2005: use the alternate cd
[11:41] <KenSentMe> asad2005: it's a text based installer
[11:41] <Terminus> asad2005: for edgy problems, you might have a better chance in #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <asad2005> KenSentMe, thanks
[11:42] <crew> Terminus, gnomefreak, wickedpuppy, porkpie, mnepton; thank you for your help :)
[11:42] <Terminus> crew: you're welcome. =)
[11:42] <wickedpuppy> crew, i didn't do much ... :P
[11:43] <crew> wickedpuppy, responded :) i was asking a question a fortnight ago without luck :P
[11:45] <crew> porkpie, on viao? thought it was hard to install on that machine?
[11:45] <mnepton> porkpie__: md5sum your .iso and burn at </= 8x speed?
[11:45] <porkpie__> crew:dunno
[11:46] <porkpie__> mnepton:it was burnt at 8x
[11:46] <mnepton> porkpie__: and md5summed?
[11:46] <porkpie__> mnepton:I didn't md5    how do I do that
[11:47] <wickedpuppy> md5sum file.iso
[11:47] <wickedpuppy> and you will get the md5 sum of the iso .. compare it with the sum on the site
[11:47] <porkpie__> I am using windows XP
[11:47] <mnepton> porkpie__: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[11:49] <porkpie__> mnepton:where do I get md5summer.exe
[11:52] <{_-IcE-_}> hey guys, im kinda new on ubuntu... tried to install my hp1215 driver to get it running on the network but failed, removed all i did and reinstalled the hplip packages just in case.. but now when i try install the driver it says blablabla.ppd driver is already installed. how can i remove it pls to have it reinstalled?
[11:55] <Rookie_> Use synaptic to install and remove
[11:55] <Rookie_> or if you like, apt-get install / remove
[11:56] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: you could try purging it. aptitude purge $package
[11:57] <oyvinhoi> How can I get flash to work on 64-bit ubuntu ?
[11:57] <oyvinhoi> in firefox
[11:57] <Terminus> after purging, check the dirs where the ppd might be, like /etc/cups/ppd/ and /usr/share/cups/model
[11:58] <{_-IcE-_}> hmm, hpijs is the only i found
[11:58] <{_-IcE-_}> removing...
[11:58] <{_-IcE-_}> lemme try again
[11:59] <mnepton> oyvinhoi: use the 32 bit plugin wrapper or chroot a 32 bit Firefox instance
[11:59] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: btw, cups by default only allows access from localhost. you have to explicitly tell it to Accept From @LOCAL for networking to work.
[11:59] <oyvinhoi> mnepton: Where can I find the 32 bit plugin wrapper then+
[11:59] <oyvinhoi> ?'
[11:59] <{_-IcE-_}> no use ... still says its already installed :@
[12:00] <{_-IcE-_}> lets try purge
[12:00] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: you can find out what's installed through dpkg -l|grep hplip
[12:00] <Terminus> replace hplip if you want hpijs
[12:00] <noia> is there a way to upgrade my ubuntu to edgy?
[12:01] <{_-IcE-_}> well, hplip just returns the normal hplips i reinstalled, hpijs returns nothing
[12:01] <mnepton> oyvinhoi: Google returned this as a first result for "32 bit plugin firefox ubuntu" - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193893&page=7
[12:01] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: to save you time, if all your workstations are windows xp boxen, you don't need to configure samba for sharing printers. windows xp supports printing to http so all you have to do is configure cups.
[12:01] <{_-IcE-_}> Terminus: i got samba configured already with filesharing, so adding a printer share *shouldnt* be a problem
[12:02] <{_-IcE-_}> problem is that i cannot get it installed correctly
[12:02] <Terminus> noia: replace all instances of dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list with edgy and run aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade. be sure to read the release notes for edgy in case there're special cases before upgrading.
[12:02] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: did you check compatibility issues at linuxprinting.org?
[12:03] <shah02> if i have intel graphics i don't need to download any drivers right (like nvidia-glx for nvidia cards or fgl** for ati???)
[12:03] <oyvinhoi> o0
[12:03] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: just letting you know. i got printer sharing working perfectly without samba. =)
[12:04] <{_-IcE-_}> Terminus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[12:04] <{_-IcE-_}> thats the guide i was following
[12:04] <{_-IcE-_}> i just screwed up in the middle and cant get it completely removed in order to try again
[12:04] <{_-IcE-_}> hehe
[12:04] <starsky_hutchy> !mplayer
[12:04] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[12:04] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:05] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: dpkg -l|grep hplip || dpkg -l|grep hpijs to check if both are still installed, if not, just purge them. =)
[12:05] <Terminus> and then reinstall
[12:06] <porkpie__> mnepton:the md5 check is OK ...
[12:06] <{_-IcE-_}> Terminus: that returns the 3 hplip packages the guide says u should install at the beginning, so seems ok
[12:06] <j-j> hey im trying to rip a cd with sound juicer but there is no way to get the track info off the net is there a way or another program or will i have to put it in manually??
[12:07] <porkpie__> mnepton:are you saying I should try and burn another cd ......I have tried kubuntu on this laptop as well and it hangs at the same please
[12:07] <starsky_hutchy> ubotu, this wiki is unmaintained https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto
[12:08] <starsky_hutchy> ubotu, please correct it.
[12:08] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: i don't see anything about installing 3 packages in this page you gave me. only hpoj.
[12:09] <American-Tech> Looking for getting sound working
[12:09] <starsky_hutchy> anyone here look after ubotu ?
[12:09] <Terminus> oh wait... there's something here about hplib.
[12:09] <American-Tech> for help getting sound working
[12:09] <oyvinhoi> mnepton: doesn't say what package it is.. Is it "nspluginwrapper"? In case it is, what repos?
[12:09] <{_-IcE-_}> im sure i seen it somewere o_o
[12:09] <brynk> can anyone help me out on getting my printer to work?
[12:09] <brynk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278404
[12:10] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: i gave up on the PSC series before because of alignment issues. =(
[12:10] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: but it prints. all you have to do is configure cups properly.
[12:10] <{_-IcE-_}> uhm
[12:10] <{_-IcE-_}> iceman@icebox:~$ sudo apt-get remove hplib
[12:10] <{_-IcE-_}> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:10] <{_-IcE-_}> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:10] <{_-IcE-_}> iceman@icebox:~$
[12:11] <Terminus> {_-IcE-_}: are you running other instances of synaptic, aptitude, etc? package db is locked if those are running.
[12:12] <{_-IcE-_}> geez, if i grep it finds it...
[12:12] <{_-IcE-_}> trying apt-get remove and it says package is not installed
[12:12] <{_-IcE-_}> :@
[12:13] <nomad111> hey all wats a good laptop battery monitoring utility for xfce
[12:13] <nomad111> it suprised it didnt come with one
[12:13] <American-Tech> Looking for help getting sound working.
[12:16] <j-j> hey im trying to rip a cd with sound juicer but there is no way to get the track info off the net is there a way or another program or will i have to put it in manually??
[12:16] <{_-IcE-_}> ok kinda got it installed but when trying to print a test page through webmin it just sits there being lazy and does nothing lol
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> j-j, tried grip ?
[12:18] <nomad111> can any1 point me in the right direction?
[12:18] <nomad111> i really need a battery monitoring utility
[12:18] <mnepton> nomad111: before i go search Google for you, have you searched Google?
[12:18] <j-j> wickedpuppy, will try
[12:19] <_azrael> How does one fix getting the error: 8559d7f4432d6a80458fdcd14e8fe2d6  /tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.uR6038/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.sornreturn: 206: Illegal number: -1
[12:19] <_azrael> On attempting to install flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get
[12:22] <dr_nick> hi
[12:22] <{_-IcE-_}> does anyone have an idea what might cause webmin saying Failed to save printer : '/etc/cups/ppd/PSC-1210.ppd' does not exist ?? But if you browse to that location the file is there :S
[12:23] <dr_nick> i wonder if it's possible to store the ubuntu live cd on nfs and boot it over the network?
[12:23] <mnepton> {_-IcE-_}: why are you using webmin and not GNOME's printer interface?
[12:24] <{_-IcE-_}> im trying on both to be honest
[12:24] <mnepton> use the GNOME tools to add printers.
[12:25] <dr_nick> i already use the netboot installer, but it wold be great to have a ubuntu desktop boot over the network. i'm not thinking thin clients, i'm using ubuntu to fix other people's systems, sometimes older computers w/ trouble booting from cdrom
[12:25] <earthian> hello does anybody know how could i contact a hardware monitor v1.2.1 creator and developer Ole Laursen ??
[12:25] <{_-IcE-_}> mnepton: problem was that i did that, didnt work... when i went to reverse what i did to try again now it just keeps saying that the driver i selected is already installed and it wont let me
[12:25] <earthian> in irc maybe?
[12:25] <{_-IcE-_}> even tho i removed it
[12:26] <kyja> all of a sudden my gnome-screensaver wont start
[12:26] <kyja> hasn't for a few days now
[12:26] <mnepton> {_-IcE-_}" probably because you have used various mehtodologies, and now they have stuffed stuff all over your system
[12:26] <kyja> :/
[12:26] <kyja> bluck
[12:26] <{_-IcE-_}> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[12:26] <wickedpuppy> earthian, man programname ... the developer name should be in it.. or visit the project page
[12:26] <{_-IcE-_}> i followed that guide exactly
[12:27] <earthian> ok thanks wickedpuppy
[12:28] <al2961> sic radical
[12:28] <{_-IcE-_}> what should i type in Location?
[12:29] <al2961> oiiiiiiiii
[12:30] <al2961> heii
[12:30] <[NB] Mahem> hi
[12:30] <al2961> hi
[12:32] <rowanjl> Can anyone explain how to setup PostgreSQL?
[12:32] <[NB] Mahem> can someone help me out with mysql problems i have alot debian servers running php/mysql/apache and was intrested in the lamp install to get a fast base system but im just getting in to problems
[12:33] <rowanjl> I've got the packages and server running, but I can't login
[12:33] <[NB] Mahem> i cant connect to myysql it dosent matter what i do
[12:34] <wickedpuppy> [NB] Mahem, first , is mysql running ?
[12:34] <dr_nick> rowanjl: sudo -u postgres sh
[12:34] <Matteo24> oh
[12:34] <dr_nick> rowanjl: createuser -A -D myusername
[12:35] <Matteo24> can anyone give me a good link how install oracle 9i on ubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:35] <dr_nick> rowanjl: createdb -O myusername mydatabase
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> !oracle
[12:35] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> why 9i ? i thought 10g been out for months
[12:35] <dr_nick> rowanjl: exit postgres shell, then in your user account type psql mydatabase and you're in
[12:36] <rowanjl> ok, thanks :)
[12:36] <Matteo24> becouse i use specified schema for 9i
[12:36] <wickedpuppy> btw ... isn't that info on postgres website dr_nick rowanjl  ??
[12:36] <wickedpuppy> Matteo24, ah k .. kindly visit the site pls
[12:36] <timhaughton>  at
[12:36] <dr_nick> wickedpuppy: i'm sure it is :-)
[12:36] <timhaughton> [sorry - wrong window] 
[12:36] <Matteo24> thnx i check that
[12:37] <[NB] Mahem> sorry yes its running but it dont accept any password im using but by default the password is empty acording to the serverdocs
[12:37] <wickedpuppy> [NB] Mahem, may i ask what did you typed ?
[12:38] <[NB] Mahem> mysql -u root -p
[12:38] <wickedpuppy> pls give us some thing for us to flame you for being noob [NB] Mahem
[12:38] <wickedpuppy> lol
[12:38] <Hapo> I'll repeat my question from some time ago:
[12:38] <wickedpuppy> [NB] Mahem, can you kindly leave out -p ?
[12:38] <rowanjl> dr_nick: well, that works, do you use pgadmin3?
[12:38] <[NB] Mahem> its all the same
[12:38] <Hapo> 12:04 ( Hapo) I have had a weird problem after upgrading from dapper to edgy. after the boot sequence my screen goes black and nothing happens. when I switch to a virtual text console and then back to the X console, X begins to start up... with might be the problem here?
[12:38] <Hapo> I'm using the nvidia drivers
[12:38] <whyme> hey all
[12:39] <wickedpuppy> Hapo, so X is fine? its just not starting automatically ?
[12:39] <whyme> is there an ubuntu-server channel I can get cli help in? I'm just trying to add a group gfoo to user foo (or add foo to group gfoo.... you know what I mean...)
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> whyme, for that .. why bother asking ? why not google ? useradd is the command and the switches can be found by --help
[12:40] <dr_nick> rowanjl: nope. but for that to work i guess you have to edit /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf and enable password authentication for network connections
[12:41] <rowanjl> dr_nick: right
[12:41] <wickedpuppy> [NB] Mahem, so how ?
[12:41] <dr_nick> whyme: adduser user group
[12:41] <dr_nick> whyme: man adduser
[12:42] <wickedpuppy> all the same ? hmms ... whats the error ? paste here for others to help ya .. i am out for dinner .. sorry dude
[12:42] <Matteo24> LOL
[12:42] <Hapo> wickedpuppy: yes, it's fine. however, this problem is a little weird. X does start automatically but only after switching to some virtual console first... in normal situations this should be so that the system boots up the console, not to a blank screen. then I would just log in and type "startx" to start X.
[12:43] <Matteo24> useradd name_user -g name_group -G other_group
[12:43] <whyme> wickedpuppy, dr_nick, thanks - irc is faster and I like it :P, foo is already a user, so useradd won't work with it, the man page doesn't actually say how to add an existing group to an existing user.
[12:43] <Hapo> someone on the finnish ubuntu channel claimed there's a bug about this
[12:43] <Hapo> but he didn't find it in the bug database
[12:44] <Bedir> selamlar kanal
[12:44] <Matteo24> chown --ingroup namegroup
[12:44] <[NB] Mahem> if someone wants to help me with mysql msg me ( i cant login whatever i do)
[12:45] <Matteo24> check pass :)
[12:45] <dr_nick> whyme: Add an existing user to an existing group
[12:45] <dr_nick>        If called with two non-option arguments, adduser will add an existing user to an existing group.
[12:45] <whyme> dr_nick, my bad, it seemed to work the second time around.... my fault for not rtfming properly
[12:46] <dr_nick> :-)
[12:47] <whazilla> high
[12:47] <whazilla> is ther a recovery mode on ubuntu ?
[12:47] <[NB] Mahem> think ill go back to using debian thought that i would save time using ubuntu instead by using the lamp install but dosent look like it
[12:48] <Yggdrasil> hi guys can somone help me with cups. ive gotten it working localy on the debian box and im trying to connect to it over the lan from ubuntu but im not sure what the name of the printer is.
[12:49] <whazilla> is ther a recovery mode on ubuntu ?
[12:49] <thegve> whazilla - when booting you can choose recovery mode
[12:50] <thegve> presh escape while grub is loading
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> also, the live cd is pretty much recovery
[12:50] <whazilla> thkx
[12:50] <whazilla> i was just trying xterm save mode
[12:50] <thegve> Is it a known issue that OpenLDAP under Ubuntu is instable?
[12:51] <CorpseFeeder> trying to help my friend install sun java jre... where are the instructions for this? And he is using amd64bit kernel too if that makes any difference.
[12:51] <thegve> It crashes quite often here on 2 servers.
[12:51] <whazilla> CorpseFeeder is ubuntu stable ?
[12:52] <thegve> And it is an incompatible (too recent) version for nomachine's NX (due to my support enquery now known there as an issue, and they've given me a workaround by setting a timeout of 2 sec in the slapd.conf)
[12:52] <CorpseFeeder> what?
[12:52] <CorpseFeeder> how do you mean?
[12:52] <whazilla> a joke
[12:53] <CorpseFeeder> oh
[12:53] <thegve> http://www.google.nl/search?q=ubuntu+jre&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nl:official
[12:55] <rag> somebody, install half life with wine
[12:55] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: have you configured cups to accept network connections?
[12:55] <Yggdrasil> terminus i think so. in the conf file ? or from the html gui ?
[12:56] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: config file. if you can access http://server:631/ over the network, that means you've configured it properly.
[12:56] <patient> how can I install Ubuntu on my computer?
[12:56] <Yggdrasil> terminus i can indeed.
[12:56] <l3on> do you know Jesus christ superstar ?
[12:57] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: go to that address, click on printers, and you'll see the printer name.
[12:57] <Yggdrasil> hmm.
[12:57] <Yggdrasil> its long
[12:57] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: after that, you can use the gnome printer configuration thingy and use the address ipp://server/printers/$printer_name to access it.
[12:58] <Terminus> if ipp doesn't work, use http.
[12:58] <Yggdrasil> ahh intersting
[12:58] <Yggdrasil> ipp://10.0.0.2/printers/HP_OfficeJet_6100_Series_USB_1
[12:58] <Yggdrasil> ?
[12:58] <Terminus> ipp is simply a printer protocol that runs on top of http. =)
[12:58] <Terminus> yep. that should do it.
[12:58] <thegve> patient: Have you read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:59] <Yggdrasil> ok ill work it.. i think i tried that though :(
[12:59] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: really? it should work fine. make sure you didn't restrict access to ipp://10.0.0.2/printers or else it won't work.
[01:00] <Yggdrasil> whatd o you mean ?
[01:00] <thegve> patient: Basically: Download cd - boot from it -- follow the installation wizard. Read what the wizard tells you - don't do silly things
[01:00] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: i mean don't deny access to it.
[01:00] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: want me to post my cupsd.conf?
[01:00] <Yggdrasil> sure anything will help
[01:00] <Yggdrasil> i htink i did that also
[01:00] <patient> I tried but if I install directely, I just can't see eth0, that's why I'm using Virtual Machine
[01:01] <Yggdrasil> oh crap it worked :)
[01:01] <Yggdrasil> terminus thank yhoou
[01:02] <Yggdrasil> i didnt know about the /printers .. add
[01:02] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27955/ <-- that's my cupsd.conf
[01:03] <Yggdrasil> terminus it works
[01:03] <rag> how to install half life with wine
[01:03] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: good. =)
[01:03] <thegve> patient: What is your exact question, what is the thing that you don't know. What type of Virtual machine are you using. Xen, vmware, virtual pc, etc
[01:04] <Yggdrasil> at least i think it does ill have to run down there and . check but i see the job in the que from the webpage
[01:04] <CorpseFeeder> is there an easier way to get out of a lock-up than pressing the reset button? I was just browsing a website someone posted in here not 5 minutes ago and it totally locked up my computer. I could move the mouse around but I could not click anything. the whole screen was dead. So, what is the best way to get out of this situation?
[01:04] <egd> hi everyone, any partitioning gurus out there?  I've expanded a JBOD from two to four disks, it's visible to Dapper but doesn't appear to be expandable at the partition table level
[01:04] <wrabbit^> hi all.... So I've just reinstalled Ubuntu 6.06, followed this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades) page to get it upgraded to Edgy and now X won't start. :( Anybody able to help please?
[01:04] <Yggdrasil> terminus thanks
[01:04] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: when it's done printing, it should disappear from the job queue.
[01:04] <Terminus> Yggdrasil: you're welcome. =)
[01:05] <egd> wrabbit:  u using nvidia chiptset?
[01:05] <wrabbit^> egd, I am
[01:05] <egd> okie, give me a sec
[01:05] <CorpseFeeder> what's the best way to get out of a total computer lock-up when browsing with firefox?
[01:06] <wrabbit^> Maybe I'll have to dl the nvidia drivers again?  Native nv doesn't work with edgy?
[01:06] <thegve> CorpseFeeder: ctrl-alt-f1
[01:06] <thegve> killall firefox-bin
[01:06] <thegve> or try to reach a console in graphical mode of course
[01:06] <thegve> but mosttimes it's faster with a "real" terminal
[01:06] <megalodon> Can anyone  help me configure my Matrox G400
[01:06] <megalodon> it's a dual head grfx card...
[01:07] <CorpseFeeder> ok thanks
[01:07] <egd> wrabbit:  try: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[01:07] <egd> I know it's not for Edgy, but it may do the trick
[01:07] <megalodon> Wrabbit, Nvidia Driver would work for Matrox cards
[01:08] <Shiro-kun> ive copied the ubuntu linux livecd on my harddrive, but cant seem to find out how can i boot the thing in grub?
[01:08] <egd> wrabbit:  seems there's an Edgy guide too: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[01:08] <wrabbit^> egd, thanks.  I'll give it a read.  megalodon... I don't own a Matrox card
[01:08] <Terminus> CorpseFeeder: total? not just firefox? can you switch to a VT with ctrl+alt+f1?
[01:08] <megalodon> Can anyone  help me configure my Matrox G400
[01:08] <patient> vmware
[01:09] <thegve> ok
[01:09] <thegve> download the iso, mount it to the virtual cd-rom (something like advanced or so, it is possible..)
[01:09] <egd> what partition tools do I have at my disposal other than gparted.  I need something that can resize partitions
[01:09] <thegve> then boot from the iso, and install ubuntu
[01:09] <patient> Download from where?
[01:10] <thegve> ubuntu.com
[01:10] <thegve> download
[01:10] <Shiro-kun> how can i boot from an iso? i dont have a cd-writer?
[01:10] <wrabbit^> thank egd
[01:10] <kyja> all of a sudden my gnome-screensaver wont start. it generates minimal errors in gnome terminal if I watch it there. I need help
[01:10] <egd> gparted tells me my jbod size is less than zero
[01:10] <balor> ldap
[01:10] <thegve> Shiro-kun: You can only boot from iso's in a virtual machine
[01:10] <egd> the drive and partition is not corrupt - accessible and seen by disk manager
[01:11] <kyja> :(
[01:11] <rowanjl> I've been instructed to do this: "you just need to add the pgsql lib dir to your systems library path.", I know what the path is, but how do I add that to the "systems library path"?
[01:11] <thegve> If you wan't to install on a physical machine order a free cd and wait a month or so, or get a friend to burn it for you.
[01:11] <megalodon> Can anyone  help me configure my Matrox G400 dual head
[01:12] <patient> Can U burn it 4 me?
[01:14] <megalodon> Anyone?
[01:17] <valehru> hey guys, I upgraded today and now the wireless is broken....I got a script that should work but when I go "sudo ./ndiswrapper_setup" I get command not found.
[01:18] <CorpseFeeder> what exactly does alt-ctrl-backspace do?
[01:19] <valehru> CorpseFeeder, it kills gnome
[01:20] <emav> CorpseFeeder: Restarts the X-windows server.
[01:20] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[01:21] <emav> Anybody who has got an iPAQ 6515 and has successfully managed synchronization with ubuntu?
[01:23] <thegve> emav: I have a 6515, not tried to synchronize :)
[01:23] <redux> slm
[01:24] <emav> thegve: Please, do! Then, there will be two of us looking for a solution! :)
[01:24] <Jon-Doe> hello guys looking for a bit of help if possible, im new to linux, basically i need to get on the net so i can learn more but i dont know how to get it to pick up my network card :(
[01:24] <thegve> I'm in the Gambia for work atm, will do when I'm back at home in the Netherlands
[01:25] <wickedpuppy>  Jon-Doe first ... you just described your solution but not the necessary details like network card vendor and error message and what you did to get it and so on ....
[01:26] <Jon-Doe> ok well i dont kno the first thing about installing on linux i put my linksys disc in and linux says the driver is not supported, ive been on some forums and they suggest using mdiswrapper but i dont kno what to do
[01:26] <Jon-Doe> *ndiswrapper
[01:27] <wickedpuppy> Jon-Doe, linksys disc in ? the actual network card pls ?
[01:27] <wickedpuppy> not the cd
[01:27] <Jon-Doe> linksys wireless g with speed boost
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> so its wireless card ? for laptop or desktop ?
[01:28] <Jon-Doe> laptop
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> ah k
[01:28] <Jon-Doe> its usb tho
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> so now we are clear
[01:28] <Jon-Doe> sorry :(
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> its a usb linksys wireless ...
[01:28] <Jon-Doe> yes
[01:28] <thegve> Jon-Doe: http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorial/Srtting-Up-NDISWrapper-on-Ubuntu-using-GUI/12546
[01:29] <Jon-Doe> ty
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> :P
[01:30] <thegve> Jon-Doe: sorry, too fast... that link was dead
[01:30] <Jon-Doe> lol
[01:30] <Jon-Doe> thats y im getting nothing then
[01:30] <Jon-Doe> lol
[01:31] <kyja> I realy need to fix gnome-screensaver
[01:32] <kyja> I dont like broken.
[01:33] <Bergcube> I want to set up apt-proxy for use for the macines on the LAN.  I've installed it via Synaptic on one machine, so now I need to figure out how to configure it, and how to set the other machines to use the apt-proxy.  Does anyone have any experience with this, and feel like helping me out?
[01:33] <nomad111> for some reason, when running xgl on xfce my desktop is only like a quarter of the screen
[01:33] <rag> please help!  fixme:msi:MSI_OpenDatabaseW open failed r = 80030003!
[01:34] <wrabbit^> hi, I'm trying to enter this "wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - sudo apt-get update" from here.... (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories) and it's telling me that 404 not found and that gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.  Any ideas?
[01:34] <Jon-Doe> thegve:dont spose u have another 1 do u?
[01:36] <bioshater> does ubotu has a function to detect from which (uninstalled) package a specific file comes?
[01:37] <thegve> Jon-Doe: I just googled it up myself
[01:37] <thegve> something with ndiswrapper gui
[01:37] <thegve> It can be installed using automatix
[01:37] <thegve> so I guess you install that
[01:37] <thegve> automatix.org i think
[01:38] <patient> thegve, I can't find Ubuntu iso to dowload, help!
[01:38] <Jon-Doe> cool ty
[01:39] <thegve> patient: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> thegve, pls do not recommend automatix
[01:40] <thegve> wickedpuppy: Why?
[01:40] <eyedol> wickedpuppy, why?
[01:40] <thegve> automatix2 is pretty cool and better then automatix1, in my opinion
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> thegve, cause it installs programs without the knowledge of the user ... which is what it is supposed to do
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> the problem comes when the user come here and ask for help ... then usually we need to know what he has installed and so on ...
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> then the problem of automatix will appear
[01:41] <eyedol> wickedpuppy, no it prompts you to select the programs to you want to install
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> eyedol, if you seen those who need help after automatix , you will know what i mean
[01:42] <nomad111> is it alrite to install kubuntu 6.06 or should i get 6.06.1
[01:42] <stm> em... i'm a newb. How can i install nvidia gforce driver on ubuntu?
[01:42] <boink> is there a 6.06.1 ?
[01:42] <thegve> nomad111: It is alright to install 6.06
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> most who use it doesn't know what program to install .. if they know what to install then they do not need automatix
[01:42] <boink> 6.06 LTS is stable
[01:42] <stm> I got NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run
[01:42] <thegve> boink: Most likely the latest patched version or so
[01:43] <nomad111> k
[01:43] <Jon-Doe> wickedpuppy shud i use automatix or not?
[01:43] <nomad111> well my dilemma is ive got ubuntu,kubuntu,and xubuntu infront of me and im not sure which to install, all are 6.06
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> Jon-Doe, in the end its you who decide .. i can explain to you why it is not good but the decision is up to you
[01:44] <wrabbit^> nomad111: they're all the same but with different desktops.  You can always install ubuntu then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever
[01:44] <nomad111> ok i shall do that
[01:44] <Jon-Doe> i dont mind not using it i just need to get linux on the net then i can search and find other solutions when they come up
[01:44] <nomad111> thx for the tip
[01:44] <Jon-Doe> just having problems with the first hurdle :(
[01:45] <nomad111> by the way can i get rpm's to work in ubuntu
[01:45] <boink> sure
[01:45] <boink> man alien
[01:45] <nomad111> there are some development packages that are only rpms and i need
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> Jon-Doe, ok then since you are ... "screwed" ... normally i myself like to do things people say should never do .. lol
[01:45] <Jon-Doe> lol
[01:45] <boink> but when you install rpm's on your own, you're outside of the ubuntu .deb structure
[01:46] <boink> best to check with apt-cache first.
[01:46] <nomad111> the package i want is third-party propriety
[01:46] <nomad111> its for embedded programming
[01:46] <nomad111> and it weighs in at 1 gig lol
[01:46] <Jon-Doe> sure i can always remove it after cudnt i?
[01:46] <boink> and alien doesn't allow work either :/
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> nomad111, can name the program name ? if you can of course
[01:47] <nomad111> xilinx ise webpack
[01:47] <boink> alien - install non-native packages with dpkg
[01:47] <boink> !alien
[01:47] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[01:47] <nomad111> ye im reading that in synaptic right now
[01:48] <boink> good luck with alien .. or just use Fedora if you need a rpm platform to do your work
[01:48] <nomad111> i dont like fedora
[01:48] <nomad111> messy
[01:48] <boink> it is
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> suse ?
[01:48] <kyja> yuk
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> sled 10 is superb ...
[01:48] <boink> suse is somewhat messy too .. and there's no guarantee that those rpm's would work on SuSe
[01:48] <nomad111> i had suse 10.1 and today at work i decided to install xubuntu over it for no obvious reason
[01:48] <wrabbit^> Cmon guys... I can't figure this out.  I'm up to the 'wget' part in this guide.... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories It's giving me an error
[01:48] <boink> Fedora is somewhat the "default" linux :/
[01:48] <nomad111> i thought id like xfce turns out its too simple
[01:49] <wrabbit^> I'd really appreciate the hel
[01:49] <wrabbit^> p
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> nomad111, have you tried sled ? not opensuse ...
[01:49] <nomad111> u mean the one u pay for
[01:49] <nomad111> i only used the free version
[01:49] <nomad111> ie opensuse 10.1 or watever
[01:49] <wrabbit^> is there an edgy help channel?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> wrabbit^: #ubuntu+1
[01:49] <CorpseFeeder> I think I have wrong java installed on my machine too. java -version responds with...   java version "1.4.2"
[01:49] <wrabbit^> ta
[01:49] <CorpseFeeder> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[01:50] <nomad111> wickedpuppy, anyways im not going to waste much thought on the matter im going to install ubuntu 6.06
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> nomad111, sort of ... but the beta was for free .. now i am not sure .. i did the beta and you can turn on XGL with a click
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> ah there he goes
[01:50] <gnomefreak> CorpseFeeder: install sun-java5-plugin it will install jre and bin
[01:50] <kyja> 3 more days for 6.10 =] 
[01:51] <dutchmega> Quiet here
[01:52] <dutchmega> hehe
[01:52] <CorpseFeeder> it just tells me "sun-java5-plugin is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[01:53] <wickedpuppy> CorpseFeeder, try this /usr/bin/java -version
[01:53] <wickedpuppy> what you get ?
[01:54] <boink> java version "1.4.2"
[01:55] <CorpseFeeder> java version "1.4.2"
[01:55] <wickedpuppy> weird .. thats where i have my java 1.5
[01:56] <American-Tech> Looking for help getting sound going.
[01:56] <CorpseFeeder> I think I sorted it now
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> is it in /usr/local/java ?
[01:57] <chrismhampson> i've installed blackbox as my window manager but does anyone know how to build menus so i don't have to load programs from xterm?
[01:57] <CorpseFeeder> I tried sudo update-alternatives --config java and picked a different version.
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> ah ... k
[01:58] <CorpseFeeder> now i get java version "1.5.0_06"
[01:59] <Rambo3> chrismhampson, i remember on debian i used debian menu somthing but for fluxbox
[02:00] <meng> is there a way to fix alsa
[02:00] <chrismhampson> Rambo3: thanks i'll have a look
[02:00] <Rambo3> you migh try and search debian menu in apt
[02:00] <meng> coz mine suddenly just have linein, line out and jack
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> meng, may i ask what country you are from ? cause you name sounds asian
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> btw try alsamixer
[02:02] <meng> look for a nation right above Singapore
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> malaysia ?
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> i am below it .. in fact 15 min from causeway ....
[02:04] <meng> yup
[02:04] <meng> but then i have no sound from anything
[02:04] <LivingSouL> hi guys
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> meng, alsamixer ??
[02:05] <meng> did it
[02:05] <Alakazamz0r> meng, is your sound card detected?
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> so then is your sound card detected ?
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:05] <Alakazamz0r> is "front" your main channel/
[02:05] <Alakazamz0r> ?
[02:05] <meng> but my plain Live got detected as a Dell one too
[02:05] <Alakazamz0r> is the fox in the hole?
[02:05] <LivingSouL> anybody?
[02:05] <Alakazamz0r> yes LivingSouL
[02:06] <jdt_> Hi, who has any recommendations on the best way to setup a "very" secure ftp server using ubuntu dapper. . One that Microsoft clients can access over the net. So - using ssh / ssl etc. Pref one that requires not much config on the client end so that it is easier for them to use?
[02:06] <gop> !restricted
[02:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:06] <Alakazamz0r> jdt, i'll do it for you
[02:06] <Alakazamz0r> just let me have axs
[02:06] <Alakazamz0r> if its a fast pipe
[02:06] <Alakazamz0r> heh
[02:06] <meng> it's like working well for a while
[02:06] <harisund> Has anybody here used a Squid cache as a .deb caching repository?
[02:06] <jdt_> ha :)
[02:07] <meng> then after i rolled back the changes i did on xorg for the mouse, the sound died
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> jdt_, vsftp .... very secure ftp
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> enough said
[02:07] <jdt_> Alakazamz0r: sounds good! hehe.  What technologies?  proftpd?
[02:07] <Alakazamz0r> vsftpd
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:07] <meng> it seems to show 3 different devices
[02:07] <LivingSouL> hi guys
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> lol wickedpuppy i like the way you think
[02:08] <Lynoure> jdt_: there is more to security than the choice of the ftp server, remember to take care of other aspects and monitor logs
[02:08] <LivingSouL> i need help :(
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> mike@malakai:~$ uname -a
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> Linux malakai 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:47:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> w00t w00t
[02:08] <meng> both the SAA7134 and the Sigmatel are not showing all the controls
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> edgy server
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> Alakazamz0r, :P
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> :D
[02:08] <LivingSouL> what irc client is best for ubuntu? is there any graphical one?
[02:08] <Alakazamz0r> LivingSouL, XChat
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> !ask | LivingSouL
[02:08] <ubotu> LivingSouL: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:08] <jdt_> wickedpuppy: thanks - I will check it out.
[02:08] <Lynoure> LivingSouL: for what kind of use of irc?
[02:09] <Alakazamz0r> LivingSouL, BitchX pwns.
[02:09] <Alakazamz0r> dont forget the CLI!
[02:09] <Lynoure> LivingSouL: for 24/7 irssi is really good
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> or irssi ... whatever turn you on ...
[02:09] <Alakazamz0r> "Don't forget the CLI!"
[02:10] <jdt_> Lynoure: Thanks, agreed, it will be behind a cisco pix. I am just trying to figure out the best way to do it. SSL or SSH2 etc. I want only authenticated access, and all traffic - client to server encrypted. All traffic will be from clients connecting in - no connections out. etc.
[02:10] <Alakazamz0r> no it isnt :P
[02:10] <LivingSouL> !ping
[02:10] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[02:10] <dcordes> irssi4ever
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> that program should be banned .... not very nice to say to a friend ... "use the bitch fool!!!" <--- sounds vulgar
[02:10] <Alakazamz0r> jdt_, SSH2 for FTP?
[02:10] <Alakazamz0r> what?
[02:11] <concept10> where is the config file for sessions? i need to manually set gnome as default
[02:11] <Alakazamz0r> ./etc
[02:11] <jdt_> Alkazamz0r:  as an alternative!
[02:12] <Alakazamz0r> jdt_, as an alternative for what.
[02:12] <cmoney> anyone using vmware player?
[02:12] <Alakazamz0r> cmoney, no, but im using vmware.
[02:12] <cmoney> what's the difference in the two?
[02:12] <Alakazamz0r> you can make a virtual os w/vmware
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> you can only play a virtual OS w/player
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> player.
[02:13] <sobersabre> hi, I have a SiS based chipset machine. Trying to use Ubuntu 6.06.1 CD, it doesn't reach X, and falls out of X
[02:13] <sobersabre> I don't even want to run the "LiveCD", I want to install in text mode.
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> sobersabre, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <normeo> anyone with some ndiswrapper expertise?
[02:13] <sobersabre> Alakazamz0r this is the live-cd
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> oh
[02:14] <Alakazamz0r> uuh... im sure there's an option in there for NOFB
[02:14] <Alakazamz0r> or something
[02:14] <sobersabre> Is there a way to boot this "live-CD" in some fashion that it directly reaches text-mode installer with all the regular ubuntu things
[02:14] <sobersabre> ?
[02:14] <sobersabre> without trying to run the Live-CD
[02:14] <jrib> sobersabre: you can use the "alternate cd"
[02:15] <{_-IcE-_}> how can i check permissions for a dir?
[02:15] <sobersabre> SHIT!
[02:15] <sobersabre> jrib, why is this the "alternate CD" ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[02:15] <sobersabre> the live one should be alternate.
[02:15] <Alakazamz0r> i think you have the alternative install CD
[02:15] <jrib> {_-IcE-_}: right click on it and go to properties.  Or 'ls -ld /path/to/dir'
[02:15] <sobersabre> I had 1 CD clean media
[02:15] <Lynoure> jdt_: Will you have very varied users or a fixed set of users? Or something between? If varied, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SFTP_clients for client support
[02:15] <wrabbit^> is ubuntu+1 actually a support channel? not much happening in there
[02:15] <Alakazamz0r> wrabbit^, its the edgy channel
[02:16] <{_-IcE-_}> drwxrwxrwx 2 webroot nogroup 40960 Oct 24 13:28 means its full access right?
[02:16] <{_-IcE-_}> i need to chmod to 777
[02:16] <wrabbit^> Alakazamz0r: an edgy support channel?
[02:16] <Alakazamz0r> sobersabre, http://developer.novell.com/wiki/images/b/ba/Screenshot-Ubuntu_install_prompt-alternative.png
[02:16] <Lynoure> jdt_: if a stable set of users, consider also limiting the access to their IPs
[02:16] <Alakazamz0r> wrabbit^, in essence yes.
[02:16] <jrib> {_-IcE-_}: yes, it's already 777
[02:16] <{_-IcE-_}> tnx, just checkin :)
[02:16] <sobersabre> I looked at "desktop CD"
[02:16] <sobersabre> and downloaded it.
[02:16] <Alakazamz0r> wrabbit^, im running edgy, whats the problem
[02:17] <meng>  is there any way i could make alsa auto configure my card again, like manually invoked?
[02:17] <sobersabre> Is there a network based Installer on floppy ?
[02:17] <jdt_> Lynoure: Fixed number, only one or two to start, growing very gradually so trestricting access by ip is possible.
[02:17] <Alakazamz0r> {_-IcE-_}, it should be 755
[02:17] <Alakazamz0r> never 777
[02:17] <wrabbit^> Alakazamz0r: x won't start.  I've tried installing the nvidia drivers and I've modified xorg.conf accordingly and it still won't work, even after a reboot
[02:17] <Alakazamz0r> 755 = rwxrwxr-x
[02:17] <jrib> ubotu: tell sobersabre about install
[02:17] <{_-IcE-_}> Alakazamz0r: its a web folder people are able to upload files to
[02:18] <wrabbit^> Alakazamz0r: I followed this guide... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[02:18] <Alakazamz0r> wrabbit^, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:18] <sobersabre> jrib please leave me alone.
[02:18] <Alakazamz0r> oh ice
[02:18] <wrabbit^> Alakazamz0r: I'll give that a shot and report back
[02:18] <jrib> sobersabre: ??
[02:18] <jdt_> Lynoure: The main thing is that I want the traffic encrypted. The connections will be established by Windows servers doing a scheduled task or something or other. i.e. send the files in the morning, get the updates in the afternoon sort of arrangement.
[02:18] <Alakazamz0r> ok wrabbit^ that'll likely fix it
[02:19] <wrabbit^> Alakazamz0r: I hope so.  I'm currently doing an apt-get update.  Once it's done, I'll put in .. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:20] <Alakazamz0r> ok wrabbit^
[02:20] <Madeye> I want www-data and all users in "developers" group to be able to write/read/excute files in certain directory, what permission shall I set ?
[02:20] <bbrazil> www-data.developers 77x
[02:21] <bbrazil> where x is probably 5, 1 or 0
[02:21] <rootpt> someone help me -> http://pastebin.com/811852
[02:21] <{_-IcE-_}> Alakazamz0r: in drwxrwxrwx, what is the d?
[02:21] <wrabbit^> Alakazamz0r: says that xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed!!! :\
[02:21] <[NB] Mahem> hmm how do i start mc so it dosent uses the wrong keyset ?? mc -a or mc -c dosent work ?
[02:22] <Lynoure> jdt_: Hmmm, encrypted connection is really the easiest thing in the puzzle. :) I think you'll do fine.
[02:22] <sobersabre> jrib sorry, I don't know what caught me...
[02:22] <jdt_> Lynoure: Thanks: Should be fun
[02:22] <jdt_> Alakazamz0r: Thanks also
[02:22] <Alakazamz0r> {_-IcE-_}, it knows its a directory
[02:23] <Lynoure> jdt_: :)
[02:23] <timhaughton> Any Edgy users know if the encrypted partitions install-time support made its way in?
[02:23] <Alakazamz0r> no problem jdt_  if you need help just ask :)
[02:23] <Alakazamz0r> timhaughton, if thats the reason my fstab is all jacked up, then yes
[02:24] <Alakazamz0r> http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/1/50
[02:24] <rootpt> someone help me -> http://pastebin.com/811852
[02:24] <variant> rootpt: pastebin is not loading
[02:25] <jrib> rootpt: can you use a different pastebin?  pastebin.com won't load.  Try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org or pastebin.ca
[02:25] <Alakazamz0r> http://www.zenoss.com/product/screenshots
[02:25] <variant> rootpt: or rafb.net/nopaste
[02:26] <rootpt> ok
[02:26] <rootpt> sorry
[02:26] <variant> rootpt: its ok, it loaded here now
[02:26] <rootpt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27964/
[02:26] <sytone> Any tips on tracking down a system hang, nothing is showing in the logs
[02:27] <variant> sytone: is the system still booted? can you ping/ssh to it?
[02:27] <sytone> im on it now :) just had to hard power cycle the machnie, the whole UI goes deadm, cannot move mouse or anything. I have found no ryme or reason
[02:28] <sytone> just installed 6.06 LTS was oin 5.somthing without issue
[02:28] <variant> sytone: can you ctrl alt f1/2/3/4 ?
[02:29] <variant> sytone: you have nvidia driver or ati driver? (proprietry ones)
[02:29] <sytone> nvidia.
[02:29] <sytone> its the only 'extra' i have on the machoine
[02:29] <sobersabre> hmmm... I did manage to get into the live GUI, thanks to Alakazamz0r
[02:29] <sytone> that and ntfs-3g.
[02:29] <sobersabre> what is the password of user ubuntu ?
[02:29] <variant> sytone: there is your problem (probably) in my experiance you wont get a system to stay up predictably wehn using the proprietry driver
[02:30] <sytone> any way to kick the level of loggin up in the machnie to try and track it down
[02:30] <sytone> been to long since i used Linux
[02:30] <variant> sytone: change the driver to nv and it wont happen again
[02:30] <sobersabre> guys, what is the password of user ubuntu for the Live CD on Dapper ?
[02:30] <sytone> does that come with warrenty :)
[02:31] <sytone> ill switch it over... I  may be back.
[02:31] <variant> sytone: gl
[02:32] <sytone> quick q, does nv work with just glx?
[02:32] <sytone> or do i have to add DRI
[02:32] <sobersabre> where is the documentation on how to use the dapper live CD, I need the passwor for user ubuntu
[02:32] <sobersabre> ?
[02:33] <variant> sytone: nope, there is no 3d acceleration with nv driver at all
[02:33] <sobersabre> tried passwords: <empty>, ubuntu, dapper,
[02:33] <sytone> Thanks, DRI it is then
[02:33] <snoops> I'm looking for a tool which will find duplicate files (not based on file names but on file hashes) in directories of my choosing then let me delete some.. anyone know of such software?
[02:33] <joona> sobersabre: its empty (no password)
[02:33] <rootpt> variant: and me ?
[02:34] <sobersabre> joona ... this doesn't work.
[02:34] <joona> reboot and just hit enter when it prompts for the pwd
[02:34] <LivingSouL1> hi guys
[02:35] <rootpt> someone help me ?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27964/
[02:35] <sobersabre> hell. I am trying to login into the login screen of Live CD of Dapper. When prompted for user/pass I give: ubuntu/<empty>
[02:35] <Alakazamz0r> no problem sobersabre
[02:35] <sytone> arrrggg vi command do not work in nano :) hehe you should see the mess i just made.. talk about old habits
[02:35] <sobersabre> on the console it is written:
[02:36] <sobersabre> User not known to the underlying authentication module.
[02:37] <timhaughton> How do I set the http proxy on a Dapper server? Which file?
[02:38] <Alakazamz0r> sobersabre, you didnt add a user when you installed?
[02:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys im trying to install the 9625 beta drivers for nvidia on a fresh install of ubuntu dapper and I am getting this error http://pastebin.ca/217018
[02:38] <[BTF] Chm0d> any help would be appreciated
[02:39] <noia> I have just had to re-install my copy of ubuntu...I was in here earlier with an NTFS problem and now I have the same problem again...can some one scroll up and find me the correct /etc/fstab line I need?
[02:39] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, apt-get install kernel-headers-'uname -r'
[02:40] <Alakazamz0r> or something of that nature
[02:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> kernel headers are installed Alakazamz0r
[02:40] <Alakazamz0r> you need to install your kernel source and headers for your current kernel
[02:40] <Alakazamz0r> are they the right ones?
[02:40] <Administrator> what applications can I use for my webcam?
[02:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> yep
[02:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> nvidia can not find the path to kernel source
[02:40] <dcordes> anybody knows a good noob guide for nmap?
[02:40] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, what's /var/log/nvidia-installer.log say?
[02:40] <Alakazamz0r> yeah dcordes
[02:40] <Alakazamz0r> here's a guide for you
[02:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> http://pastebin.ca/217018
[02:41] <Alakazamz0r> nmap -sS -vv -P0 -O ipaddress
[02:41] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[02:41] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, uname -r for me.
[02:41] <dcordes> Alakazamz0r: what does this do?
[02:41] <noia> can anyone search their logs for a line that was given to me a few hours ago? I had to re-install and now I need to fix the same problem again///
[02:42] <Alakazamz0r> noia, cat filename |grep whatyourelookingfor
[02:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> 2.6.15-27-686
[02:42] <Administrator> what applications can I use for my webcam?
[02:42] <Administrator> what applications can I use for my webcam?
[02:42] <joona> gqcam
[02:42] <joona> camorama
[02:42] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, he kernel header file
[02:42] <Alakazamz0r>        '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.27/include/linux/version.h' does not exist.
[02:42] <noia> Alakazamz0r: that would be all nice and fine except..I had to re-install..ergo..no log files
[02:42] <Alakazamz0r> kernel-source-2.4.27/include/linux/version.h' does not exist.
[02:42] <Alakazamz0r> kernel-source-2.4.27
[02:42] <Alakazamz0r> get it?
[02:43] <noia> Alakazamz0r: if it helps it was an NTFS problem
[02:43] <Alakazamz0r> noia, history |grep whatyourelookingfor
[02:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> not correct version
[02:43] <noia> Alakazamz0r: again...I have no logs!
[02:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> like you said
[02:43] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, correct
[02:43] <Alakazamz0r> reinstall the correct kernel headers and recompile the driver
[02:43] <noia> Alakazamz0r: the entire partition had to be formated, please read all of what I say, not just part of it
[02:43] <Alakazamz0r> noia, you've got a bash history no?
[02:43] <noia> Alakazamz0r: ....FORMATED!
[02:44] <Alakazamz0r> okay YOU FIX IT THEN
[02:44] <Alakazamz0r> :)
[02:44] <Alakazamz0r> noia, why dont you tell me what your problem is instead of being daft.
[02:44] <noia> Alakazamz0r: I'v said I had to re-install 5 times now, its a simple matter of you performing the grep on your log files, since mine have been lost to the abyss
[02:44] <Alakazamz0r> noia, i havent been in here all night.
[02:45] <Alakazamz0r> I'v said I had to re-install 5 times now <----- WHY?!
[02:45] <gop_> hey
[02:45] <gop_> I am getting th is error
[02:45] <gop_> GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
[02:45] <noia> Alakazamz0r: I need an /etc/fstab line that was provided to me earlier to allow me to use NTFS partitions
[02:45] <noia> Alakazamz0r: I said it 5 times, I didn't re-install 5 times
[02:45] <gop_> any here know why easy ubuntu get this eror and is it a quick fix
[02:45] <gop_> I don't see why it say it has no public key
[02:46] <Alakazamz0r> noia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:46] <gop_> hey some one quickly explain to me why I get that
[02:46] <Alakazamz0r> cause you havent imported the key Gods_gift
[02:46] <Alakazamz0r> oops
[02:46] <Alakazamz0r> gop
[02:47] <gop_> how do I import the key
[02:47] <dcordes> gop_:i guess you added a custom repository which requires a public key :)
[02:47] <gop_> :)
[02:47] <gop_> oh in the source list
[02:47] <dcordes> gop_: that depends on which repo you added
[02:48] <gop_> it telling me to fix package
[02:48] <dcordes> ?
[02:49] <gop_> easy ubuntu was telling me to fix package I got confused
[02:49] <dcordes> gop_ if you would be a little more precise, you would receive a lot more help
[02:49] <Alakazamz0r> right
[02:49] <gop_> k I tink I fixed it
[02:49] <gop_> my english sucks
[02:49] <dcordes> nvm
[02:51] <gop_> k sorry when using the program easyubuntu, I got an error after trying to install some packages, fix package first
[02:51] <Alakazamz0r> gop_, does your english suck.
[02:51] <timhaughton> How do I set the http proxy on a Dapper server? Which file?
[02:51] <Alakazamz0r> or does our german suck.
[02:51] <[BTF] Chm0d> Alakazamz0r: now I am getting this error??? http://pastebin.ca/217033
[02:51] <snikker> i've got a problem with vmware server... after the installation, i don't have the internet access... and if i unistall it, i can surf in the net only with the firewall disabled...
[02:52] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, did you upgrade your kenrel source?
[02:52] <dcordes> snikker: try #vmware
[02:52] <joona> p
[02:52] <snikker> dcordes: ok
[02:53] <cosmodad> hi all -- after my Breezy->Dapper upgrade, I'm missing a bunch of fonts I used to have before. Do I need to install any additional packages to fix this?
[02:53] <gop_> it say could not apply changes
[02:53] <plb> hrm so edgy is getting firefox 2 final with official FF logo?
[02:53] <gop_> fix package
[02:53] <dcordes> cosmodad: did you use truetype fonts?
[02:54] <cosmodad> dcordes: I guess...
[02:54] <cosmodad> dcordes: I realized this when I opened Open Office and saw some fonts missing within documents that displayed them perfectly before
[02:55] <cosmodad> dcordes: I have msttcorefonts installed though
[02:55] <axa-axa> Hi, can someone please tell me how can I change behaviour of right alt-gr taster so it works as left alt in console (for example. to be in able to delete word from right with alt+d and so on)?
[02:55] <[BTF] Chm0d> Alakazamz0r: yes i did
[02:56] <cosmodad> dcordes: any idea?
[02:56] <dcordes> wait
[02:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> [BTF] Chm0d, uname -r
[02:56] <furesta> Hi folks, does anybody know of a good ubuntu hardware compatibility list, ie web site?
[02:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> 2.6.15-27-686
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> -> Kernel source path: '/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686/'
[02:56] <[BTF] Chm0d> should my kernel source say exactly that? cuz if it is I can't find it
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> what part of what im trying to tell you do you not understand?
[02:57] <Alakazamz0r> yes, it should.
[02:57] <Alakazamz0r> you nay need to downgrade your kerne.l
[02:57] <axa-axa> Hi, can someone please tell me how can I change behaviour of right alt-gr taster so it works as left alt in console (for example. to be in able to delete word from right with alt+d and so on)?
[02:57] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[02:57] <Alakazamz0r> or get the kernel source from kernel.org
[02:57] <[BTF] Chm0d> k
[02:57] <[BTF] Chm0d> sorry
[02:57] <[BTF] Chm0d> <-- im with stupid
[02:57] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[02:57] <timhaughton> When I installed my Dapper server, it asked my the IP and port of the http proxy my server uses to access the internet. This doesn't seem to have been set on the installed system. How do I tell the system which http proxy to use?
[02:57] <lucaferr> how do I install sun's java in ubuntu?
[02:58] <Alakazamz0r> lucaferr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229036
[02:58] <dcordes> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[02:58] <eyedol> lucaferr, it should be in the repository
[02:58] <defrysk> lucaferr | !jre
[02:58] <dcordes> cosmodad http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[02:58] <defrysk> hmmm
[02:58] <zhLilDoggi> I need help on installing a Belkin Wireless G Notebook Card
[02:59] <defrysk> !java
[02:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:59] <lucaferr> ok.. well I tried sun-java5-jdk but that didn't work
[02:59] <eyedol> sun-java
[02:59] <eyedol> lucaferr, try sun-java
[02:59] <noia> ok, very odd...I re-installed ubuntu, and now hard drives that were immideatly useable to me before are now not mountable by anyone other than root
[03:00] <cosmodad> dcordes: I do have the core package installed... maybe it's the bug issue
[03:00] <jman_>  I have samba configured as a PDC but whenever I try to join the domain it says it can't find the username on the domain even though I already created the user using smbpasswd, am I missing something here?
[03:00] <Rambo3> ask bill gates about bugs
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> jman_, i would ask in #samba
[03:01] <dcordes> cosmodad: but look at what they say about additionally added fonts...
[03:01] <eyedol> lucaferr, how about this sun-java5-jdk
[03:01] <lucaferr> doesn't work
[03:01] <dcordes> cosmodad: you reinstalled after upgrading?
[03:01] <jdt> lucaferr: You may need to do a 'sudo apt-get update' first, after you have updated your /etc/apt/sources.list with the multiverse repositories
[03:02] <lucaferr> tried apt-get install sun-java and apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[03:02] <cosmodad> dcordes: no i didn't... haven't added any more fonts than there are available in Ubuntu
[03:02] <cosmodad> dcordes: I'll try reinstallation
[03:02] <defrysk> sun-java5-jre it is
[03:02] <lucaferr> jdt: I have multiverse and I did apt-get update:
[03:02] <lucaferr> root@vm-ubuntu:/etc/apt# apt-get update | grep multi
[03:02] <lucaferr> Hit http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages
[03:02] <lucaferr> Hit http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources
[03:03] <defrysk> lucaferr, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:03] <lucaferr> but I need the jdk
[03:03] <defrysk> lucaferr, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[03:03] <defrysk> geez
[03:04] <shredder> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[03:04] <shredder> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[03:04] <shredder> sun-java5-jdk, works greate
[03:04] <lucaferr> "Package sun-java5-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[03:04] <lucaferr> "This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or" bla,bla
[03:04] <cosmodad> dcordes: doesn't seem to help :/
[03:04] <lucaferr> piece of garbage
[03:04] <shredder> use the lines in sources.list I posted, not yours
[03:04] <defrysk> lucaferr, apt-cache search sun-java
[03:04] <shredder> you have dapper-backports.
[03:05] <[BTF] Chm0d> Alakazamz0r: thx for your help im a fookin idiot too early in the morning and not enough coffee :)
[03:05] <dcordes> cosmodad: dunno then
[03:05] <shredder> it should be only dapper
[03:05] <Alakazamz0r> no problem [BTF] Chm0d
[03:05] <Alakazamz0r>  :)
[03:06] <cosmodad> dcordes: alright. Thanks for helping
[03:06] <snikker> anyone use vmware server?
[03:07] <gebruiker> What webcam programs are there?
[03:07] <shredder> vmware server works great.
[03:07] <dcordes> snikker: nope but i have the workstation distrib here
[03:07] <shredder> we use it both with 32 bit ubuntu and 64 bit.
[03:07] <dcordes> snikker: maybe i can help. what's your problem?
[03:08] <snikker> i've got a problem with the networking...
[03:08] <dimiassas> i need to know which soundcard is able to do hardware mixing if you know tell me please
[03:08] <lucaferr> shredder: thanks
[03:08] <lucaferr> that did it
[03:08] <shredder> np
[03:08] <jdt> speaking of vmware...
[03:09] <jdt> I am having troubles running ubuntu 6.06.1 server
[03:09] <noia> right, has anyone been here all night and have complete logs? I was given a /etc/fstab line earlier and I'v lost it and can't recover it...
[03:09] <jdt> host os is edgy tho..
[03:09] <dcordes> snikker: remove all existing vmware networks and recompile vmware-server
[03:10] <dcordes> jdt: why would you have a server in a vmware?
[03:10] <noia> dcordes: portability?
[03:10] <dcordes> oh i see
[03:10] <snikker> dcordes: now i've removed the vmware server, but i can use internet only with the firewall disabled...
[03:10] <jdt> it gets to "uncompressing linux kernel ... Ok... Booting the kernel and sends my proc to 100% and gets no further
[03:11] <dcordes> snikker: did this also remove the vmware networks?
[03:11] <shredder> dcordes: it great to run multiple test servers under vmware, you can set up a complete testlab on one physical box trivially easy.
[03:11] <jdt> dcordes: Its just for testing. I have to build a secure ftp server tomorrow.
[03:11] <jdt> hehe
[03:11] <dimiassas> i need to know which soundcard is able to do hardware mixing if you know tell me please
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> jdt, you mean sudo apt-get install vsftpd tomorrow ?
[03:12] <snikker> dcordes: if i've removed the vmware i shouldn't have any vmware network, right?
[03:12] <jdt> wickedpuppy: well, yes, basically. But also building scripts to move files around, collect files from MSSQL server, and other things too
[03:13] <snikker> dcordes: if not, how can i remove them?
[03:13] <dimiassas> what soundcard supports hardware mixing?
[03:14] <gerolin> hola
[03:14] <dcordes> snikker: dunno. ifconfig and see if there are any
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> dimiassas, if nobody answers after repeating a few times... i think it is reasonable to assume that nobody knows
[03:15] <snikker> dcordes: with ifconfig i can see only my real network
[03:15] <dimiassas> crimsun knows :p
[03:15] <dcordes> then they are removed
[03:16] <Kim^J> Hey all... On Edgy... Where can I get the kwin-style-baghira ??? I don't have the style one when installing kwin-baghira...
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> dimiassas, then perhaps you can ask here if crimsun is alive ?
[03:16] <dcordes> i would also reinstall my firestarter or whatever you are using and sudo shutdown -r now
[03:16] <Kim^J> I really need the style package too1
[03:16] <forsaker> hi folkz :D
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> cause there is no point asking here if he isn't
[03:16] <dcordes> snikker: then you see if it worked
[03:16] <saintsjd> I am working at a site where there is no internet access. Is the universe repository available on a series of CDs that I can download and burn and then take to the site with no internet?
[03:17] <snikker> dcordes: ok, itry to reinstall firestarter...
[03:17] <forsaker> did someone have a problem installing edgy rc... I've got the weird message "no root file system", when choosing mount points even If i assigned the root mount point,.,,
[03:17] <thefish> saintsjd: not sure, but you could possibly use apt-proxy on a laptop to bring updates in
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> what should I be looking at to setup a pppoe server?
[03:17] <dcordes> forsaker: join #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <Alakazamz0r> gcc -I.. -I../.. -I../../include -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -mcpu=pentium -DL_ENDIAN -DTERMIO -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_PART_WORDS -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DSHA1_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DAES_ASM   -c -o pk7_attr.o pk7_attr.c
[03:17] <Alakazamz0r> oops, my bad.
[03:18] <saintsjd> thefish: yes apt-proxy might work... but I wonder what it would take for ubuntu to make a release of universe as a series of ISOs for CD burning.  The site with no internet would need no security updates just access to the original release of universe.
[03:19] <snikker> dcordes: then i'll let you to know if work or not... to later...
[03:19] <thefish> saintsjd: and you would burn a new iso each week?
[03:19] <lucky> hi, when running update on ubuntu, i get the error : dpkg: error processing libghc6-hdbc-missingh-dev (--configure):
[03:19] <thefish> saintsjd: spose you could do it monthly, still a fair bit of work
[03:19] <saintsjd> thefish: no, security updates are not necessary. We only need the original release of universe.
[03:19] <thefish> aah
[03:20] <thefish> you could go and rip it off a mirror then
[03:20] <michaelaoash> The room intro noted "WARNING: nvidia driver has a security problem with a hotfix available from nvidia here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html" Will this appear as an automatic update on ubuntu, or do I need to take action?
[03:20] <saintsjd> thefish: how? wget?
[03:20] <thefish> ye, that would be one way
[03:21] <dcordes> lucky: sudo apt-get --configure install libghc6-hdbc-missingh-dev i think
[03:21] <lucky> dcordes: says "E: Command line option --configure is not understood"
[03:21] <snikker> dcordes: it work, thanks for support.
[03:22] <dcordes> snikker: nice. i hope it will continue working after you reinstall the vmware
[03:22] <dcordes> gl
[03:23] <snikker> dcordes: i hope it too :-)
[03:23] <lucky> dcordes: did you mean dpkg ?
[03:24] <lucky> dcordes: cause when i do that i get "ghc-pkg: dependency MissingH-0.14.4 doesn't exist (use --force to override)"
[03:24] <abhinay> only one speaker works ? did i do anything wrong ?
[03:24] <Stormx2> (pssst, programmers / people working. I've got a little radio station up playing post-rock/idm. Its good shiz to listen to while you work (since there are barely ever lyrics). /msg me if you are interested)
[03:24] <kr4z> anybody know how I can purposely make my internet connection go slow?
[03:25] <dcordes> lucky: try man dpkg or man aptitude and see how you reconfigure a pack. i don't know really
[03:25] <dcordes> kr4z: why would you try this?
[03:25] <lucky> dcordes: okay thanks
[03:25] <JosefK> kr4z: you could have your packets actually handled by UPS in a really Big Truck
[03:26] <dcordes> lmao
[03:26] <kr4z> dcordes: I made evolution crash earlier and I'm trying to reproduce it :P
[03:26] <dcordes> wtf lol
[03:26] <lucky> i suggest having your cat chew through the ethernet cable :p
[03:26] <dcordes> gl
[03:26] <jonkelle> set your interface to 10 half duplex.
[03:26] <dcordes> hahaha
[03:26] <lucky> (actually, that might hurt the cat, so don't :P)
[03:26] <kr4z> lol
[03:26] <dcordes> lucky: good one
[03:27] <kr4z> jonkelle: how would I do that? would that work?
[03:27] <timhaughton> When I installed my Dapper server, it asked my the IP and port of the http proxy my server uses to access the internet. This doesn't seem to have been set on the installed system. How do I tell the system which http proxy to use?
[03:27] <lucky> kr4z: well, you could attempt to max out your connection, do you have a computer at another site with a greater downlink than your local uplink ?
[03:27] <lucky> kr4z: just upload a big file to that machine.
[03:27] <kr4z> hmm
[03:27] <lucky> kr4z: or max out your bittorrent/whatever upload
[03:27] <kr4z> I could try that
[03:27] <dcordes> lucky: gravity1337.ytmnd.com
[03:28] <lucky> kr4z: it'll drive your pingtimes through ther oof, but won't really screw up your total throughput in terms of KB/s
[03:29] <Windwalker> Hi everybody. Does some body if there a way to edit (not add) items in the right click menu on desktop?
[03:29] <lucaferr> why can't I see links to synaptic from the desktop/menus?  I'm running as a nis user.. do I need to belong to a certain group?
[03:29] <JosefK> kr4z: you could join #2600 on EFNET, that usually works
[03:30] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: yes, I don't think you will see taht unless you are in the "admin" group
[03:30] <thoreauputic> *that
[03:30] <lucaferr> thoreauputic: any way to modify the group name?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: i.e. have sudo rights
[03:30] <JosefK> lucaferr: you could add your username to the 'wheel' group (locally), and enable wheel in /etc/sudoers
[03:30] <lucaferr> I changed sudo.. through visudo
[03:31] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: you can't run synaptic unless you have sudo rights
[03:31] <mrbond82> Has anyone gotten edgy+compiz+xgl working properly?
[03:31] <lucaferr> I fixed sudo, but the desktop still doesn't show synaptic
[03:31] <JosefK> lucaferr: killall gnome-panel
[03:31] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: did you enable admin in sudoers?
[03:31] <JosefK> lucaferr: you may have to logout/login again, if killing gnome-panel doesn't work
[03:31] <Windwalker> Does some body if there a way to edit (not add) items in the right click menu on desktop? Thank you!
[03:32] <lucaferr> I added another group..
[03:32] <lucaferr> "Domain Admins"
[03:32] <Alakazamz0r> i make you spank
[03:32] <lucaferr> which is the group I belong to in the NIS domain
[03:32] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: the system doesn't know to add graphical access for your new group :)
[03:32] <cjari> hi, is there any where I can download netdrv.img?
[03:33] <dcordes> http://content.ytmnd.com/content/9/4/1/9419f78cb03bd3d22e02e8598e3f70ad.jpg
[03:33] <lucaferr> thoreauputic: ok.. I was wondering whether that could be changed.. but it's ok
[03:33] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: it probably can be - but it probbly isn't worth it ( too many things to track down)
[03:34] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: easier to add all "Domain Admin" users to the admin group and make sudoers give rights to "admin"
[03:35] <lucaferr> not very practical, but ok
[03:35] <ScottCh> crimsun: ping
[03:35] <thoreauputic> lucaferr: depends what rights you want them to have of course
[03:36] <tuskernini_> join #ubuntustudio
[03:37] <hamil> hello! having some seriouse issues with the sound on my machine now... The sound on every kind of files is played in a slower speed than usual... it looks like they are played in 50% of normal speed.. have tried to play them in XMMS, VLC, Totem, mPlayer, Listen and others, without any luck.. Anyone have any ideas to what might have happened?
[03:37] <okapi> Anyone know how to install Ubuntu on Laptop Gateway with centrinos?
[03:38] <Cyber> good day
[03:38] <Cyber> :P
[03:39] <Jfrench> I need help setting up my Mic, is there some secret setting that makes it work, its a Basic 3.5mm jack mic, on SiS SI7012
[03:39] <tuskernini_> does anyone use bluetooth sending files to and from pc?
[03:40] <hamil> tuskernini: I have, but it has been a while since the last time..
[03:41] <tuskernini_> I just got a bluetooth dongle, works fine in receiving files from mobile... but i would like to get more out of my nokia n70 and bluetooth...
[03:42] <romildo> Hi.
[03:42] <tuskernini_> would like to browse my phone... does anyone have a good app to do it.. tried kmobile and gnokii and .. well have not spent time to figure it out...
[03:42] <skelter> hey - i just installed ubuntu and it didn't get my max resolution right...is there a way to fix this?
[03:42] <|BraiN|> hello
[03:42] <tuskernini_> hamil, what did you do with bluetooth.. up and download stuff?
[03:43] <Gandalf86|XKC> you can fix that in your xorg.conf skelter
[03:44] <Gandalf86|XKC> open a terminal and do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:44] <timhaughton> When I installed my Dapper server, it asked my the IP and port of the http proxy my server uses to access the internet. This doesn't seem to have been set on the installed system. How do I tell the system which http proxy (IP and port) to use?
[03:44] <skelter> i've got it open
[03:44] <hamil> tuskernini_ : i only used it for up and downloading files to and from my cellphone.. but i also rememebr that i did look at gnokii..
[03:44] <|BraiN|> I have a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card..can anyone help me?
[03:45] <tsoler> hi all
[03:45] <Gandalf86|XKC> skelter, scroll to the buttom
[03:45] <skelter> done
[03:45] <cyber> hmm
[03:45] <cyber> 200mb worth of updates
[03:45] <tsoler> very new to ubuntu - need a question
[03:45] <Gandalf86|XKC> there should be a "Section Screen"
[03:45] <cyber> but do i need them... :/ *ponders*
[03:46] <tsoler> anyone available??
[03:46] <skelter> ah and a bnch of modes
[03:46] <erUSUL> !ask
[03:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:46] <erUSUL> !anyone
[03:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:46] <tsoler> do i need protection from virus on ubuntu?
[03:46] <joona> no
[03:46] <tsoler> !!!
[03:46] <erUSUL> tsoler: no
[03:46] <tsoler> why si guys?
[03:47] <tsoler> sorry so
[03:47] <Gandalf86|XKC> yeah just add your modes like its shown there ;) "1024x768" for example
[03:47] <skelter> thanks, gandalf.
[03:47] <tsoler> are u sure ?
[03:47] <joona> tsoler: the simple fact that there's no linux viruses out there.
[03:47] <tuskernini_> tsoler, been doing ubuntu for about two years... NO VIRUSSES... ever...
[03:47] <Gandalf86|XKC> and add it to the right color depht ;)
[03:47] <skelter> yes
[03:47] <erUSUL> tsoler: there are no virus in linux (short answer)
[03:48] <Lynoure> tsoler: if you want to have virus scanner on a server to protect the users from windows viruses, yes, then you do need one
[03:48] <|BraiN|> I have a pinnacle pctv pro card...Dappers finds it as a hardware, radio is finding frequencies but with no sound, composite works perfect and I can't find any channel when I do scan
[03:48] <tsoler> no firewall no antivirus nothing?
[03:48] <Gandalf86|XKC> open a terminal and do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:48] <Gandalf86|XKC> ah sry
[03:48] <tsoler> shocked
[03:48] <Gandalf86|XKC> got the wrong keyboard xD
[03:48] <chris_> tsoler: you need a firewall
[03:48] <Lynoure> tsoler: firewall you can install, can help in some cases
[03:48] <joona> well, the other option is not to install any random services
[03:48] <hamil> joona: offcourse there are viruses aimed at linux users, but not in the same manner as win viruses..
[03:48] <joona> and you wont need firewall either
[03:49] <thoreauputic> tsoler: because Ubuntu is properly designed :)
[03:49] <joona> hamil: yeah, but can you point me to one?
[03:49] <brynk> i've got an epson aculaser c1100 printer, it worked fine in dapper, but i'm having no luck installing it in edgy, can anyone help me out?
[03:49] <tuskernini> thoreauputic: good answer!
[03:49] <joona> i dont think there are any out there in wild at the moment
[03:49] <thoreauputic> chris_: he only needs a firewall if he runs internet facing services
[03:49] <Gandalf86|XKC> now my question: is there a 64bit version of beryl ?
[03:49] <godzirra> Heya guys.  I just install xserver-xorg but I don't have startx?  Any ideas what I need to install?
[03:49] <vorbote> chris_: you don't need a firewall, unless you are offerring services to the internet.
[03:49] <tsoler> for what cases lynnore
[03:49] <cyber> & all the kiddys that create viruses, dont take the time to learn linux
[03:49] <godzirra> cyber: No, thats not actually true in most cases.
[03:49] <hamil> joona: if you want to read more about viruses for linux, read the following article eg: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:49] <cyber> & once they have learnt linux they basically mature enough not to try & break every one elses :P
[03:49] <chris_> vorbote: no, you need a firewall to inadvertently prevent you from offering services to the internet
[03:50] <joona> hamil: thanks
[03:50] <godzirra> Its that they target things that are easier to hit.
[03:50] <dcordes> script kiddies?
[03:50] <cyber> lol godzirra its a joke...
[03:50] <chris_> vorbote: prevent you from inadvertently, even
[03:50] <tsoler> somewhere i saw a firewall program ,
[03:50] <godzirra> Ahh, sorry.  hard to tell sometimes on irc :)
[03:50] <thoreauputic> chris_: such as? there are none by default
[03:50] <Lynoure> I agree with chris_
[03:50] <ender__> hello guys. i installed the ati drivers, the kernel modules etc... But, when i wanna lauch UT, i get this error : sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:50] <|BraiN|> I have a pinnacle pctv pro card...Dappers finds it as a hardware, radio is finding frequencies but with no sound, composite works perfect and I can't find any channel when I do scan can anyone help?
[03:50] <godzirra> sooo... I just installed xserver-xorg but I don't have startx?  Any ideas what I need to install?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> tsoler: install firestarter if you want a simple firewall
[03:50] <ender__> oops noo .
[03:51] <joona> hamil: yea, knew that much, read it quick thru
[03:51] <ender__> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:51] <ender__> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[03:51] <ender__> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[03:51] <tsoler> for what cases thoreau..??
[03:51] <sudharsh> hi jus a question will edgy always include up-to-date stuff..i mean is it like what testing is to stable in debian..
[03:51] <ender__> dri module is activated in xorg.conf
[03:51] <chris_> thoreauputic: yes, and the moment he follows some advice on here or elsewhere to install some package, he may open up a service by accident
[03:51] <godzirra> I just want to get my Xorg up and running and dont know what I need to get :(
[03:51] <thoreauputic> tsoler: well for example if you install openssh-server or an ftp server etc
[03:52] <thoreauputic> chris_: true, I'm addressing that :)
[03:52] <hamil> joona: desktoplinux also had an small article about viruses, that can be found here: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3307459975.html Where they state that there is almost 100 viruses that is a threat to Linux machines (how many for the win machines... ;) he he he)
[03:52] <tsoler> no server for the moment , out of my skills:)
[03:52] <Lynoure> Firewalls are nice for flood control, too, or for keeping your baby brother off the web :)
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Lynoure: heh
[03:52] <Gandalf86|XKC> is there a 64bit version of beryl ?
[03:53] <tsoler> what do u mean by fllod??
[03:53] <Rambo3> DansGuardian is for that
[03:53] <ender__> Gandalf86|XKC  cant u just compile ?
[03:53] <joona> hamil: but i believe that linux viruses stay effective for as long as it takes the author to update package
[03:54] <ahfeel> hi all
[03:54] <radhios> Hi all,  i have a problem with my ubuntu, when loading gnome or gnome appl its very slow, but when appl its running the speed is ok!!
[03:54] <joona> a week in most cases
[03:54] <thoreauputic> joobie__: what linux viruses?
[03:54] <tsoler> lynoore : what is the flood control??
[03:54] <ahfeel> anyone already built packages with deamons here please ?
[03:54] <ahfeel> i mean including deamons
[03:54] <Rico> that's an interview with a CTO of a linux antivirus company. i wouldn't exactly trust it
[03:54] <Lynoure> tsoler: it's limiting the rate of connections, to e.g. a web service
[03:54] <thoreauputic> joobie__: as far as I'm aware the only linux viruses have been "proof of concept"
[03:54] <nomad111> hey all how do i setup ipw3945 in ubuntu
[03:54] <Gandalf86|XKC> well ender__ i cant find a emerald package... i just thought i ask... maybe i just did something wrong
[03:54] <ender__> flood control might be prevention of worm like brutal attacks
[03:55] <zhLilDoggi> whose good at installing a wirless driver?
[03:55] <ender__> Gandalf86|XKC  u might need extra repos for that. i know its not in the ubuntu repos
[03:55] <cyber> protection of people trying to get into your system etc
[03:55] <tsoler> you must have a static ip to enable brutal attacks, im i wrong?
[03:55] <cyber> !wireless
[03:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:56] <Lynoure> tsoler: public ip, not necessarily static
[03:56] <|BraiN|> Gandalf86|XKC: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-3396-1.html
[03:56] <ryctor> Dudes...
[03:56] <Lynoure> tsoler: plenty people have same dynanic address for a month or so
[03:56] <Gandalf86|XKC> ah thanks |BraiN| i'll read that :)
[03:56] <tsoler> ok got it'
[03:57] <|BraiN|> ;)
[03:57] <nomad111> please any1
[03:57] <tsoler> so you say that there is not an antivirus program here?? shocked
[03:57] <Lynoure> !anyone > nomad111
[03:57] <timhaughton> On a server - where should I define the http_proxy environment variable?
[03:57] <thoreauputic> hmm
[03:57] <|BraiN|> tsoler...there are antivirus programs for linux
[03:58] <Lynoure> tsoler: there are, clamav, for example
[03:58] <tsoler> you even if im paranoid there is no antivbirus software??
[03:58] <joona> timhaughton: export HTTP_PROXY=something
[03:58] <|BraiN|> but for now you don't need it
[03:58] <nomad111> Lynoure: i dont kno how to get ipw3945 wireless card working
[03:58] <variant> joona: a week? which hat did you pickthat number from?
[03:58] <joona> variant: my hat
[03:58] <variant> tsoler: clamav is good software for antivirus
[03:58] <nomad111> Lynoure: didnt need to install anything
[03:58] <joona> variant: os community is pretty fast
[03:58] <timhaughton> joona: Where though? Not a user's .bashrc file?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> linux antivirus is mostly for people who want to filter mail etc going to windows machines
[03:58] <Lynoure> nomad111: don't ask me, ask the channel
[03:58] <variant> tsoler: primarrily used to scan windows partitions and networks
[03:58] <joona> timhaughton: ah, /etc/environment
[03:59] <timhaughton> joona: OK - many thanks :)
[03:59] <|BraiN|> I need someone who can help me with my PCTV card...anyone?
[03:59] <tsoler> who of you is using an antvir softwre?
[03:59] <ryctor> What is the pkg again in order to compile stuff?
[03:59] <Lynoure> tsoler: I am, on a mailserver
[03:59] <rann> is this the right place to ask about ubuntu in the enterprise (cough)
[03:59] <variant> the fact is (afaik) there is no currently active virus capable of replicating its self and infecting linux/bsd systems in the wild
[03:59] <ryctor> something-essentials?
[03:59] <booger> does anyone know of a eBay sniping program other then jbidwatcher??
[03:59] <Zaggynl> k9copy is the best :D especially the newest version
[03:59] <thoreauputic> tsoler: you really don't need it unless, as Lynoure says you are running a mail server or similar
[04:00] <tsoler> lynoore:so u do have an antvir
[04:00] <Lynoure> rann: go ahead and ask
[04:00] <rann> is there a tool which correlates ubuntu USN advisories to installed packages?
[04:00] <Lynoure> tsoler: I thought I just answered that...
[04:00] <thoreauputic> tsoler: to protect windows users
[04:00] <tsoler> allright guys
[04:00] <Cyber_inTheDepth> tsoler, there are no viruses that will effect a linux machine... its impossible to be infected at the moment
[04:00] <Cyber_inTheDepth> :P
[04:00] <rann> so i can get a list of known-to-be-vulnerable packages + advisory ala rhel's up2date -vl?
[04:00] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! gnome-cups-icon sometimes wastes a lot of cpu time (according to gnome system monitor), often I have to kill it. What is the reason? is it a bug?
[04:01] <tsoler> im having a windows disk at the moment though
[04:01] <joona> yea, in fact i run two virus machines that have antivir software
[04:01] <joona> both are mail filters
[04:01] <variant> dont confuse virus with exploit :) two different things
[04:01] <Cyber_inTheDepth> only people running WinBlows need it, because viruses are specifically designed to exsploit some thing within the windows OS
[04:01] <variant> joona: two virus machines? :P
[04:01] <joona> two mailfilters, yes
[04:01] <variant> joona: oh, so not virus factorys then ;)
[04:01] <joona> we have some 1000 domains in hosting
[04:02] <joona> hehehe
[04:02] <Cyber_inTheDepth> only reason a linux machine needs AV is so that things being sent through it are eliminated before reaching other windows machines :P
[04:02] <joona> aaah, yeah, got few more of those ;)
[04:02] <Lynoure> rann: the desktop systems at least have been configured by default to notify you of updated packages. I do not know about ubuntu server (I use debian on mine)
[04:02] <tsoler> joona: all my work is in this windows disk. Since i use ubuntu for the moment im i in danger or not??!!!
[04:02] <joona> tsoler: nope if you dont boot windows
[04:03] <variant> tsoler: your windows disk wont get infected whilst booted into ubuntu
[04:03] <rann> Lynoure: i know, however, in an enterprise setting you don't just update a server (usually); you only update for security issues or when a bug is known to affect production.
[04:03] <ryctor> excuse me, guys, but I reinstalled and forgot the pkg needed to have gcc and all the stuff needed to vcompile software, I remember the nameof it was building-essentials or something like it, please help...
[04:03] <variant> ryctor: build-essential
[04:03] <thoreauputic> ryanakca: build-essential
[04:03] <ryctor> Thanks
[04:03] <tsoler> ok next boot will be windows,  any possibility virus from ext3 come up??
[04:04] <booger> do you know of a ebay sniping programs, anyone?
[04:04] <Cyber_inTheDepth> ryctor, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:04] <|BraiN|> tsoler if you have a TV card...I suggest the only reason to have winblows....
[04:04] <rann> Lynoure: and i need to have something like apt-get --dude-show-me-security-updates-only
[04:04] <radhios> any one help me with my slow loading problem????
[04:04] <Lynoure> rann: if you do apt-date -s dist-upgrade you can easily see what would upgrade, you can cron that
[04:04] <tsoler> 2 days ubuntu user, not ready to gett off windows!!!
[04:04] <|BraiN|> 3 day you'll be ok
[04:04] <rann> Lynoure:yes, but i would not know if the update in question was a feature-, bug- or security-update!
[04:04] <|BraiN|> :P
[04:05] <Lynoure> rann: you get that to be security updates only be commenting out the nonsecurity lines from sources.list or by grepping for security
[04:05] <boink> !edgy
[04:05] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:05] <Rico> !schedule
[04:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:05] <Lynoure> rann: patience, I only type so fast when I'm ill
[04:05] <dcordes> |BraiN|: lol you think i watch tv on windows? lol lol
[04:05] <rann> ok, and that would not break dependencies?
[04:05] <|BraiN|> :P
[04:05] <tuskernini> tsoler: dont rush it... take your time... i still start up windows once every two months
[04:05] <joona> tsoler: erm, what do you mean by ext3 virus?)
[04:06] <|BraiN|> dcordes...can you help me watch tv on linux Ubuntu then?
[04:06] <dcordes> mabye
[04:06] <Lynoure> rann: -s is simulate, it does not do anything to the system
[04:06] <wickedpuppy>  !mythtv
[04:06] <dcordes> depending on your hardware
[04:06] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[04:06] <|BraiN|> cause I did 5 hours googling...nothing
[04:06] <boink> xawtv is good for tv too
[04:06] <|BraiN|> i did that
[04:06] <ryctor> Thanks again guys
[04:06] <|BraiN|> nothing happend
[04:06] <dcordes> what's your hardware?
[04:06] <|BraiN|> Pinnacle PCTV Pro
[04:06] <boink> does your tv card have a BTR chip?
[04:06] <|BraiN|> card=52
[04:06] <tsoler> joona : a virus on ext3 that is for windows
[04:07] <rann> Lynoure: i see. however, a given security update might ref. a newer package without a security update which would b0rk. but that could be worked around i guess
[04:07] <boink> linux works very well on the brooktree chips
[04:07] <|BraiN|> yes i know
[04:07] <joona> tsoler: ummm... how could virus get into your ext3 partition?)
[04:07] <|BraiN|> cause on SUSE i had no prob
[04:07] <|BraiN|> the prob is with Ubuntu
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> tsoler, how does windows read ext3 ?
[04:07] <joona> tsoler: and no worries, windows won't even see your ext3 partitions
[04:07] <boink> you have reset the tuner in the module?
[04:07] <Lane> I have a question, I am looking into doing a little robotics project and am buying the cheapest hardware I can, So my question is how well would ubuntu server deal with 128 Megs of RAM
[04:07] <ryctor> also, I bougt a new usb DVD burner and I was wondering what was the best software for burning dvds in ubuntu?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> ryctor, k3b
[04:07] <tsoler> ive installed a driver for that
[04:07] <Lynoure> rann: no, it does not do that unless you have packages with  broken version numbers
[04:07] <mince_> how can I obtain a list of processes which use sound card?
[04:07] <|BraiN|> reset the tuner? I tried tuner= 1 ,3 ,5 ,14,44
[04:08] <thoreauputic> tsoler: stop worrying :)
[04:08] <|BraiN|> for pal
[04:08] <joona> mince: lsof /dev/sound
[04:08] <|BraiN|> nothing happend
[04:08] <boink> you know which one it is?
[04:08] <tsoler> wickedpuppy: there is s driver
[04:08] <joona> or whateverdevicescalled
[04:08] <mince_> joona: tnx
[04:08] <|BraiN|> only the composite works
[04:08] <|BraiN|> on suse I had tuner=3
[04:08] <|BraiN|> worked well
[04:08] <boink> on the card's website, you can find out which tuner it is
[04:08] <SpComb> Lane: 128mg should be more than enough
[04:08] <boink> and then on your video card as well, that needs to be set up for the tv viewing too
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> tsoler, put windows behind you ... i never had sleepless night thinking about virus and spyware on my box for 7 years
[04:09] <joona> mince_: could be /dev/dsp too ;)
[04:09] <mince_> joona: I got lsof: status error on /dev/sound: No such file or directory
[04:09] <|BraiN|> video card?
[04:09] <joona> try /dev/dsp
[04:09] <|BraiN|> hm
[04:09] <boink> video card, yes, maybe another thing to look into
[04:09] <mince_> joona: there
[04:09] <Lynoure> rann: there might be a more straight forward tool, but that's how I'd do it, and I'd subscribe to some lists, e.g. there was no official Ubuntu announcement on the recent Nvidia exploit
[04:09] <joona> yea
[04:09] <boink> and permissions as well
[04:09] <boink> tv card = agony
[04:09] <|BraiN|> permissions in video0?
[04:09] <chrismhampson> hello again....how do i restore the ubuntu login manager because since installing xubuntu-desktop it has changed
[04:09] <mince_> joona. I didnt get anything aout of/dev/dsp
[04:10] <boink> maybe. I set up a tv card in Debian and Slackware
[04:10] <Lane> Thank you, SpComb, your help is much appreciated
[04:10] <joona> mince_: try sudo
[04:10] <joona> sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[04:10] <Lynoure> rann: (logically because the nonfree driver is not an official part of ubuntu)
[04:10] <|BraiN|> I'll try the permissions
[04:10] <|BraiN|> the funny thing is
[04:10] <joona> gotta get to home, brb in 10 mins
[04:10] <|BraiN|> that the radio...finds the frequencies...with strong signal
[04:10] <joona> working overtime already ;)
[04:10] <|BraiN|> but no sound
[04:11] <SpComb> Lane: I've run debian sarge on 64mb without any problems at all, so ubuntu server should be fine
[04:11] <dcordes> joona: you home quick
[04:12] <mince_> joona: I can't use the root pass..no idea why...
[04:12] <quad3datwork2> running ubuntu server on p2 233mhz w/ 48mb of ram as wiki server; plus ftp, ssh. runs fine
[04:12] <tsoler> ok guys it seems im worrying as a  windows - user. No prob i ll have to get used to it:)
[04:12] <Lane> SpComb, thats good to hear do you know of any bluetooth usb device that works with ubuntu easily?
[04:12] <tsoler> does anyone have an idea on gis?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> whats gis ?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> !gis
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <tsoler> geo information systems
[04:13] <mince_> !password
[04:13] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[04:13] <mince_> !sudo
[04:13] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:13] <tsoler> if i a can work on gis on ubuntu probably bye bye to windows
[04:13] <tuskernini> !gps
[04:13] <ubotu> gps: Graphical Process Statistics using GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 116 kB, installed size 372 kB
[04:14] <tsoler> i found grass a softwre for gis
[04:14] <jumbers> Thank god for the Flash 9 Beta release: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[04:14] <mince_> !root
[04:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:14] <RazvanS> !root
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> mince_, if you got a question pls ask ?
[04:15] <|BraiN|> boink: I changed the permissions
[04:15] <|BraiN|> same thing
[04:15] <|BraiN|> :/
[04:16] <mince_> wickedpuppy: I forget root password:) or somehow I cant use any accound password as all seem to be invalid...it's strange
[04:16] <tuskernini> I just started to use bluetooth file transfer... KDE but it works for sending files to phone.. one step further...  cool!
[04:16] <sobersabre> hi, where do I get automatix ?
[04:16] <tsoler> next question
[04:16] <tsoler> is there a way to roll back drivers here?
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> mince_, first i never use root ... second i use sudo .. third you should use sudo too
[04:16] <sobersabre> ( tried the ubuntuforums, but the link is dead...
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> sobersabre, we do not recommend automatix here
[04:17] <tuskernini> www.getautomatix.com
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> ...
[04:17] <sobersabre> wickedpuppy, I know. but do you do the opposite ?
[04:17] <mince_> wickedpuppy: sudo wants my root password...when I fill it in, it never works...
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> tuskernini, what is the opposite ?
[04:17] <Lynoure> mince_: not your root, your own
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> mince_, sudo doesn't want your root password .. it wants YOURS
[04:17] <sobersabre> is "we do not recommend" = "we won't help you to do it!"
[04:17] <teledyn> is there any way to scp through reverse tunnel?  i am only able to reach the gw box
[04:18] <KenSentMe> I installed the acroread package. Should it now be possible to fill in pdf forms?
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> sobersabre, i never help people to get automatix ... i explain why and help them with their problem
[04:18] <tuskernini> wickedpuppy: not my line...
[04:18] <tsoler> guys : can i install a driver on ubuntu that is wrotten for suse?
[04:18] <sobersabre> teledyn, can you describe in simlpe words WHAT you want ?
[04:18] <mince_> so what stands for "sudo bash" ?
[04:18] <sobersabre> wickedpuppy, automatix has a list of misc. packages I need. I can do them automatically. Why NOT ?
[04:19] <teledyn> ah maybe it was just a syntax issue after all
[04:19] <Lynoure> tsoler: in some cases, at least, but it might mean compiling it yourself or other hassle
[04:19] <sobersabre> mince_, it stands "run bash as root"
[04:19] <thoreauputic> sobersabre: because automatix is a disaster area ?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> sobersabre, your choice .. i just do not recommend , i never ask you NOT to use it. recommendation != forcing people
[04:19] <tsoler> i must update my video card
[04:19] <mince_> and sudo apt-get install, for example?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> sobersabre: if you need evidence, ask any op around here
[04:20] <sobersabre> thoreauputic, as long as you understand what it does, you can _afford_ using it.
[04:20] <bioshater> sobersabre: cause automatix does more than that. it puts funny repos in your sources.list, leading to all kinds of dependency problems later.
[04:20] <boink> !flash 9
[04:20] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released.  You can get information and download it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:20] <thoreauputic> sobersabre: if you undersand wwhat it does, you don't need it
[04:20] <sobersabre> bioshater, IT depends which packages you choose to use, and you always should have a backup of sources.list, before you allow "funny" scripts to modify it.
[04:20] <tsoler> lynnore: i found a new driver for my card, i want to install it but if i get bad results how can i remove it??
[04:21] <kuja> How do you get Totem to play .mov's? (gstreamer, and no, I don't want to use xine)
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> sobersabre, there is no need to defend yourself , just use it. we just express our opinion it. its your call
[04:21] <sobersabre> thoreauputic, gathering all the packages now manually on a clean system is LONGER than yo use automatix.
[04:21] <Lynoure> tsoler: First tell what driver are you talking about? Where did you get it?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> sobersabre: do as you please - I won't stop you :)
[04:21] <sobersabre> I have asked where the hell it lies now, since I have missed it in the default forums location.
[04:22] <bioshater> sobersabre: its not only a matter of backing up sources.list. once you have installed some packages with the automatix-generated sources.list, you will be in dependency hell, even if you revert to your previous sources.list
[04:22] <Yggdrasil> terminus are you around ?
[04:22] <tsoler> its for my graphic card. found on intell
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> bioshater, pls .. its enough ....
[04:22] <|BraiN|> bye
[04:23] <sobersabre> bioshater, you need to install antifanatix
[04:23] <sobersabre> soon.
[04:23] <sobersabre> :)
[04:23] <thoreauputic> OK - #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway -->>>>
[04:23] <Lynoure> tsoler: The intel card has good free drivers in ubuntu
[04:23] <tsoler> lynoore: it says its for suse. can i use it on ubuntu?
[04:23] <Lynoure> tsoler: see above
[04:23] <tsoler> google earth prompts me
[04:24] <American-Tech> Lookiing for help with sound. I can not get sound working
[04:24] <skelter> hi - having trouble getting my desired screen resolution to show up in the "screen resolution" preference panel. i added "1280x1024" to the depth 24 area in xorg.conf...
[04:24] <erUSUL> !fixres
[04:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:24] <Lynoure> tsoler: Sorry, I know nothing of Google Earth. But you should be able to get 3d with the free drivers, really
[04:24] <skelter> thanks
[04:24] <teledyn> ugh.  i'm trying to scp via reverse ssh tunnel but for some reason it tries to copy to the gw box
[04:25] <mtha> hello, can anyone tell me how to install shockwave flash plugin? thanks
[04:25] <tsoler> it prompt that i need an update
[04:25] <Constrictor> mtha: you can try automatix, it makes it very easy
[04:25] <nolimitsoya> mtha, its in the repos, in multiverse
[04:26] <tsoler> is out there a repository for drivers i wonder?
[04:26] <American-Tech> Looking for help getting sound going
[04:26] <mtha> is it, thanks
[04:26] <gebruiker_> hai
[04:27] <Constrictor> ;-)
[04:27] <Yggdrasil> can somone help me out with cups. i thought i had everythign setup client/server sort of thing when i go into the cups http gui and print a test page comes out fine. but when i print from my client i just get like 3 lines of text.
[04:27] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, google at first, to find out if there is a driver that might be in any repos, at first. though i can tell you, there most certanly isnt ;)
[04:28] <tsoler> nolie: hi
[04:29] <noia> is there a way to intall "normal" firefox rather then the ubunturised version?!
[04:29] <tsoler> nolie: i found an intel update
[04:29] <noia> *install
[04:29] <boy> yo
[04:29] <tsoler> its for suse
[04:29] <tsoler> can fit?
[04:29] <boy> is ubuntu beetje goeie besturingsysteem?
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then run it, if its a newer, better driver than what comes with ubuntu. rpm:s can be converted to deb, using alien. sudo apt-get install alien, and man alien
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> noia i bet u got to firefox website and download a .bin file for installation.
[04:30] <boy> kan iemand mij beetje vertelen
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> boy, english please :)
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> or find a dutch channel ;)
[04:30] <boy> ooh ok
[04:30] <erUSUL> !de
[04:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:30] <tuskernini> boy: wat wil jy weet?
[04:30] <tuskernini> !nl
[04:30] <nolimitsoya> erUSUL, that wasnt german ;)
[04:30] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:30] <boy> ja
[04:30] <noia> Yggdrasil: that would certainly be one way of doing it, but I'd prefer it to take the place of the old ff
[04:31] <boy> \over ubuntu?
[04:31] <Yggdrasil> noia just apt-get remove firefox
[04:31] <Yggdrasil> and then install the one from the binary
[04:31] <Angryelf_> can anyone think of a reason I can forward high numbered ports to apache and it works outside of my Linksys router fine, but if i forward port 80 it doesn't work?
[04:31] <tuskernini> boy: tik in /join #ubuntu-nl
[04:32] <noia> Yggdrasil: that'll remove  firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome-app-install gxine yelp
[04:32] <nolimitsoya> Angryelf, maybe couse port 80is used for communication with you router?
[04:32] <devilz> hi, why do i need GPG key for source.list?
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> hmm..
[04:32] <miranda82> hi people
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> noia well you got me sounds like you should be running debian.
[04:32] <nolimitsoya> noia, just build the binary, and run it from a launcher
[04:33] <miranda82> how can i revert ndiswrapper -m ?
[04:33] <tsoler> noli: what is allien for?
[04:33] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, thats why you should read the manpages. ;) its a utility for converting packages between packagingsystems
[04:45] <miranda82> hello?
[04:45] <noia> nolimitsoya: thats all well and fine, but when I go to open a link via another application it will default to the "broken" firefox and not the new ones..
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> miranda82, ?
[04:45] <miranda82> hello nolimitsoya
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> noia, thats true, unless you keep a window open att all times
[04:45] <tsoler> nolie: haha what is manpages then?
[04:45] <miranda82> i though maube my message did not was sent to chat
[04:45] <noia> nolimitsoya: I'd rather not.
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, run the commands i gave you, and youll see
[04:45] <Skip> Question: My gateway with intel high definition audio does not have a mic input on the mixer - any ideas?
[04:45] <miranda82> does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?
[04:45] <tsoler> i ve just installed allien, what is next nolie please
[04:45] <Angryelf_> nolimitsoya: I dunno, if i access the webpage locally there's no problem getting it over :80....only from outside
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, type 'man alien'
[04:45] <tsoler> in terminal or what?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> Angryelf, thats what i told you. since port 80 is used for outer configuration, its blocked from the outside for security reasons. you can fix that by setting up a dmz
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> *router
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes
[04:45] <melvin> does enyone can tell me how can i install netbeans, eclipse, mono, monodevelop and kdevelop?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> melvin, sudo apt-get <name of program to install>
[04:45] <Angryelf_> nolimitsoya: I dont really want all of my webservers ports exposed by a dmz
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> Angryelf, which is why youll have to set up a iptables firewall on the server
[04:45] <melvin> i tried that
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> melvin, search synaptic for the exact package name then
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> and add addition repos
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> *additional
[04:45] <mrmknet> I am trying to install nvidia driver.. the installer asks for the kernel source tree.. I tried apt-get install kernel-source but no package with this name was found.. How to get the source tree?
[04:45] <miranda82> please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, install headers for your kernel. search synaptic
[04:45] <melvin> is there a page where i cand find good how_to on Ubuntu, I know a thing or two but i used gentoo
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, also, sudo apt-get install build-essential <- that will sort lots of problems
[04:45] <melvin> and portage has all of that so i dindt learn much jeje
[04:45] <American-Tech> looking for help with sound
[04:45] <sobersabre> ok, I must apologize, for being a bit stubborn
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> melvin, try the debian documentation
[04:45] <poer> My little brother is growing up, and my 'rents want some sort of net nanny stuff.... we run debian/ubuntu. I need advice. I'd be satisfied with simply monitoring instead of restricting. Would tcpdump do this, or is there a better way?
[04:45] <Angryelf_> nolimitsoya: okay, i put the host as the DMZ yet still can't connect
[04:45] <miranda82> please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> Angryelf, then something is up with your server config
[04:45] <ianmacgregor> melvin: Try http://ubuntuforums.org , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[04:45] <catalytic> poer, unplug the ether
[04:45] <catalytic> theres a really good one poer
[04:45] <catalytic> hang on ill get it
[04:45] <melvin> thanks
[04:45] <poer> that occured to me, but i was really hoping for a software solution
[04:45] <|_SpY_|> i have installed a new version of php using apt get... but i have some problems with php5... anybody knows how i how back that installation.. and use old version of php?
[04:45] <sparkleytone> i just did a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper
[04:45] <sparkleytone> and now i can't ssh to the box
[04:45] <miranda82> please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?
[04:45] <sparkleytone> it just closes the connection as soon as i make it
[04:45] <mrmknet> moloimitsoya: I have to take both steps?
[04:45] <sobersabre> there was a desltop administration tool with a strange name, introduced in gnome2.14
[04:45] <sobersabre> what was its name ?
[04:45] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, what steps? build-essential will get you everything you need to build
[04:45] <sparkleytone> has anyone seen this problem?
[04:45] <sobersabre> ( it allows to configure user's desktops
[04:45] <sparkleytone> its not logging any errors
[04:45] <mrmknet> and no need for searching synaptic for linux-headers?
[04:45] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, maybe the signature of the server has changed
[04:45] <sparkleytone> why would it regenerate the keys?
[04:45] <poer> can the box he uses be set up to filter it's own net traffic?
[04:45] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, what do you mean "cannot connect"
[04:45] <sobersabre>  ?
[04:45] <sparkleytone> ssh im
[04:45] <sparkleytone> Connection closed by 10.2.3.15
[04:45] <sparkleytone> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[04:45] <miranda82> please does anyone here know how to revert ndiswrapper -m?
[04:45] <catalytic> driftnet
[04:45] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, then, you need to increase logging verbosity on the server and read its logs
[04:45] <Skip> Anybody have a  Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller ?
[04:45] <poer> miranda82, did you try 'sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper'
[04:45] <sparkleytone> i increased it to DEBUG sobersabre ... still nothing in the syslog ... what other log would it be in?
[04:45] <sobersabre> besides. have you done no changes to the network hardware ?
[04:45] <zhLilDoggi> okay, now I got the wireless card detected, now it don't connect to anything
[04:45] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, and where are you looking for problems ?
[04:45] <|_SpY_|> i have installed a new version of php using apt get... but i have some problems with php5... anybody knows how i how back that installation.. and use old version of php?
[04:45] <miranda82> poer, i gonna try
[04:45] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, sorry, look in /var/log, debug, auth, daemon etc.
[04:45] <sobersabre> grep for sshd
[04:45] <poer> miranda82, that should disable the module
[04:45] <miranda82> poer, will that void ndiswrapper to be loaded at startup?
[04:45] <miranda82> poer, cuz it actually disables the module
[04:46] <ZSuser> Hi all people !!!
[04:46] <stm> ^_^
[04:46] <sparkleytone> sobersabre: nothing
[04:46] <poer> miranda, i'm not sure, sorry
[04:46] <sobersabre> guys, I have a shitty sis74x vga adapter.
[04:46] <stm> some1 use AI RoboForm from Linux? Or there are any alt progs?
[04:46] <sobersabre> I do see glxinfo with extensions, but glxgears CRAWLS.
[04:46] <sparkleytone> this is killing me
[04:47] <sparkleytone> i can telnet the port and it returns SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.1
[04:47] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, are you sure you've restarted sshd on the server, and have enabled the logging ?
[04:47] <poer> miranda, see if this helps: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Remove_a_driver
[04:47] <sparkleytone> sobersabre: yup
[04:47] <stm> Some1 use AI RoboForm from Linux? Or there are any alt progs? It's password-base and auto-former
[04:48] <sobersabre> connection reset is usually something done by Intrusion Protection systems,
[04:48] <sobersabre> It is not common to reset the connection
[04:48] <Guardian> hi, is it possible to do export DISPLAY to multiple displays ???
[04:48] <zhLilDoggi> grr, darn pc
[04:48] <sobersabre> Guardian, what are you trying to achieve ?
[04:49] <sparkleytone> :/
[04:49] <Guardian> sobersabre: having my nokia 770 use its lcd screen and also export display to a pc+beamer through wifi
[04:49] <mrmknet> Installed build-essential and linux-headers but still the nvidia installer  cant find the kernel source tree, where is kernel source path located?
[04:49] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, have you done any network related hardware/software changes ? ( iptables rule... )
[04:49] <sparkleytone> this is highly upsetting
[04:49] <sparkleytone> nope.  iptables isn't used.  only change is dist-upgrade, which while big shouldn't cause this problem.
[04:49] <sparkleytone> everything else is working fine it seems
[04:49] <crimsun> mrmknet: linux-headers-$(uname -r)  should populate /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[04:50] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, have you upgraded the kernel, rebooted etc. ?
[04:51] <sparkleytone> not changing kernels
[04:51] <sparkleytone> will continue to use my own
[04:51] <mrmknet> crimsun: no folder there named build
[04:51] <sparkleytone> do i really need to reboot?  its not in the docs.
[04:51] <|_SpY_|> i have installed a new version of php using apt get... but i have some problems with php5... anybody knows how i how back that installation.. and use old version of php?
[04:51] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, have you run apt-get install build-essential?
[04:52] <mrmknet> yes
[04:52] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, have you searched synaptic for your kernel headers?
[04:52] <mrmknet> yes
[04:53] <crimsun> mrmknet: ensure that linux-headers-$(uname -r) is in fact installed
[04:53] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, after upgradeing things like glibc, modutils, etc. it is not so bad to reboot.
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, have you told the nvidia installer what version of gcc it should use?
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> should be same as kernel was compiled with...
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> 3.4 for dapper
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> 4.0 for edgy
[04:53] <nolimitsoya> i think...
[04:53] <ScottCh> crimsun: I have responded on #trilug, if you get a moment free.  Thanks.
[04:53] <mrmknet> nolmitsoya:no, it is just asking for the kernel source tree
[04:54] <mrmknet> crimsun. Waht does $(uname -r) stands for?
[04:54] <crimsun> mrmknet: it's a command
[04:54] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, yes, is asked me that to before i told it what compiler to use.
[04:54] <Guardian> sobersabre: is it possible or does export DISPLAY work only with a single remote ip/host ?
[04:54] <mrmknet> how to tell it which compiler to use?
[04:55] <zhLilDoggi> hold up, do you need a wep key for wirless to work in ubuntu?
[04:55] <KenSentMe> Is automatix2 advisable to new users?
[04:55] <nolimitsoya> zhLilDoggi, if you try to connect to a wep network ;)
[04:55] <sobersabre> Guardian, no.
[04:55] <zhLilDoggi> mines not a wep network though...
[04:56] <Trae> anyone know if Edgy will be released soon?
[04:56] <devilz> does anyone know how to fix new xserver-xorg-core?
[04:56] <nolimitsoya> zhLilDoggi, then you should make it one, right now!
[04:56] <zhLilDoggi> when I try to activate the wireless card it takes a crap long time
[04:56] <nolimitsoya> devilz, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:56] <mrmknet> nolimitsoya: how to tell the installer which version to use?
[04:56] <poer> miranda, you there anywhere?
[04:56] <nolimitsoya> mrmknet, i forgot. :) google is your friend
[04:57] <nolimitsoya> poer, she left
[04:57] <poer> missed the notice... i guess she figured it out
[04:57] <poer> later guys
[04:57] <KenSentMe> !automatix2
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatix2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <KenSentMe> !automatix
[04:57] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[04:58] <Vuen> question, is there any way to convert a vfat partition to ext3 without losing/backup up the data?
[04:58] <zhLilDoggi> so yeah...it don't connect to nothing, but ndiswrapper says the driver, hardware is present
[04:58] <sparkleytone> sobersabre: http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549
[04:58] <ciga> hi
[04:58] <zhLilDoggi> plus, theres no lights the card
[04:59] <ciga> I've just upgraded to edgy, but my Xorg runs without direct rendering. I don't have fglrx installed since I have a card with rv280 chipset. glxinfo says /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch. Can you help me with this?
[04:59] <mattmattmatt> is anyone alive
[04:59] <nolimitsoya> ciga, rv280 should be nvidia-legacy
[04:59] <nolimitsoya> right?
[04:59] <Shadowthrone> How can I cd into directories whose names have spaces in them?
[05:00] <geokok> Is ot possible to have tv-out with Nvidia 5200 FX?
[05:00] <devilz> nolimitsoya: I get error
[05:00] <ciga> nolimitsoya: rv280 is an ati one.
[05:00] <Subhuman> Shadowthrone, umm escape the space with a /
[05:00] <ciga> nolimitsoya: but I try to use the dri from Xorg.
[05:00] <nolimitsoya> ciga, my bad :)
[05:00] <Subhuman> Shadowthrone, or jus TAB complete the name
[05:01] <Subhuman> push tab when youve typed a few letters of it and it will complete the rest
[05:01] <devilz> nolimitsoya: can i paste you the error of xorg?
[05:01] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:01] <Ranbee> is there an easy way to sync firefox and opera's bookmarks?
[05:01] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, do you have "Protocol 1,2" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[05:01] <Shadowthrone> Subhuman: wicked, thanks.
[05:01] <sparkleytone> sobersabre: http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#1
[05:01] <sobersabre> guys, I have a problem with glx
[05:01] <sobersabre> here's a paste:
[05:01] <sparkleytone> sobersabre: have Protocol 2
[05:02] <sobersabre> and in the client ?
[05:02] <geokok> can anyone tell me if i can activate tv-out with nvidia 5200? I am running edgy and have the repo drivers installed
[05:02] <sobersabre> sparkleytone, and in the client - in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[05:02] <sobersabre>  ?
[05:02] <Vuen> !tv-out
[05:02] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[05:02] <Vuen> :)
[05:03] <geokok> thank you fellows
[05:03] <sparkleytone> sobersabre: it all worked fine.  then upgraded server.  now it doesn't work.
[05:03] <devilz> nolimitsoya: hm i went to paste on that site what now?
[05:03] <Qaldune> hi
[05:03] <Qaldune> i've installed apache2 and php5 mod for apache using apt-get
[05:03] <Qaldune> now i'm trying to make a hello world in php and it doesn't show anything
[05:04] <Qaldune> what could i try to do to fix that?
[05:04] <sobersabre> guys, please take a look: http://paste.lisp.org/display/28550 , xorg is SLOW.
[05:04] <miranda82> is there a way to discover the range of ip's in a lan that has not DHCP?
[05:05] <Qaldune> i'm running ubuntu dapper and apache2 and php seem both to be properly configured
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> miranda82, in you dhcp servers settings
[05:05] <Vuen> miranda82: 169.254.X.X
[05:05] <bioshater> sobersabre: is everything slow or just 3d?
[05:05] <Vuen> miranda82: standard class B private addressing
[05:05] <miranda82> Vuen, u're kidding
[05:05] <Vuen> nioe
[05:05] <Vuen> nope*
[05:05] <nomad111> is there a specific reason why download rate drops badly after half-way through download a package using synaptic
[05:05] <sobersabre> bioshater, eveything
[05:06] <sobersabre> ( x related )
[05:06] <Vuen> miranda82: it's 169.254.x.x with a 255.255.0.0 subnet mask
[05:06] <miranda82> nolimitsoya, i mean, i plug the cable, but i have no ip, and there is no mac filtering...
[05:06] <Vuen> anything in there is valid
[05:06] <miranda82> Vuen, have u read mi question?
[05:06] <nomad111> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <bioshater> sobersabre: 3d would be no surprise, cause there is no 3d h/w accel support for that sis card in Xorg
[05:06] <ciga> miranda82: ipcalc, ip + subnet mask will defined the hostmax
[05:06] <katsu_moooo> Does anyone know how the official way to determine which Ubuntu release is installed on a system?
[05:06] <Vuen> yes, i read your question. there's no dhcp, so you want the range of ip addresses. that's the range. 169.254.x.x
[05:06] <miranda82> ciga, but i have no ip..
[05:07] <Lane> Anyone know where I can ask an odd electrical/battery powered desktop question?
[05:07] <miranda82> Vuen, i really don understand you
[05:07] <ciga> miranda82: oh ic.
[05:07] <miranda82> Vuen, cuz it can be 192.168.30.40, for the router
[05:07] <bioshater> sobersabre: glxgears depends on h/w supported 3d to run smooth
[05:07] <miranda82> Vuen, 4 example
[05:08] <bioshater> *h/w accelerated
[05:08] <Vuen> miranda82: yes, class c is also a valid range, but it's very uncommon without dhcp
[05:08] <snoops> may as well type it out in here Lane
[05:08] <miranda82> Vuen, but i need to connect to the lan, and i just want to know, what ip i must set
[05:08] <miranda82> Vuen, but i don't know how to figure it
[05:09] <Qaldune> what should i do if apache doesn't run the php scripts i write??
[05:09] <Vuen> miranda82: okay, well what other machines are on the lan? are they windows machines?
[05:09] <miranda82> Vuen, yes
[05:09] <Vuen> miranda82: windows machines without dhcp default to 169.254.x.x
[05:09] <Qaldune> i've installed php and apache and put the script as index.html in the right folder
[05:09] <Vuen> set an address in that range with a 255.255.0.0 subnet mask.
[05:09] <Qaldune> can anyone plz help me?
[05:10] <miranda82> Vuen, it's not a default net...
[05:10] <catalytic> can anyone help me build this?
[05:10] <Vuen> sorry Qaldune, i don't know anything about apache :(. try in #apache
[05:10] <catalytic> http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/driftnet/driftnet_0.1.6-7_i386.deb
[05:10] <pty> Qaldune: save it as index.php?
[05:10] <snoops> Qaldune, php should only be executing .php files.. it depends on your php.ini config
[05:10] <Vuen> miranda82: then just go on one of the windows machines and see what address it's using.
[05:10] <sobersabre> bioshater, I understand. Q. is how BAD can operate a 64MB card.
[05:10] <miranda82> Vuen, does not matter...
[05:10] <miranda82> thx anyway...
[05:11] <Vuen> well i don't understand what you're asking
[05:11] <Lane> alright, any ideas on how to battery power a desktop computer for 30 minutes or more sans UPS
[05:11] <Qaldune> snoops: should the default config works?
[05:11] <Vuen> you have windows machines without a dhcp... i guarantee they are all 169.254.x.x
[05:11] <Vuen> unless they have been explicitely set to something else
[05:11] <snoops> Qaldune the default just does .php files I believe..
[05:11] <miranda82> Vuen, i just wan't to know how to discover the ip adress of other machines, without having a valid ip adress
[05:11] <miranda82> Vuen, they all depend from a router
[05:11] <Qaldune> only php files?
[05:11] <bioshater> sobersabre: i also have a sis card (onboard). 2d is okay, only 3d accel is not supported (and probably never will, because sis does not release any specs to open source developers)
[05:11] <miranda82> Vuen, the router sets the ip of the net
[05:12] <Vuen> miranda82: they depend on a router, but they don't use dhcp?
[05:12] <Qaldune> so if i put a php script in a .html it won't work?
[05:12] <Vuen> i highly doubt that
[05:12] <miranda82> Vuen, i was thinking of programming some kind of arp rquest
[05:12] <bioshater> sobersabre: so your card is also slow when you are just moving windows around on the desktop?
[05:12] <sobersabre> bioshater, I see, All I want is that Xorg would run smooth
[05:12] <miranda82> Vuen, have u ever made a lan...?
[05:12] <snoops> Qaldune, correct, because apache is looking for .php files to send to the php executable
[05:12] <Qaldune> well i'm gonna try that snoops
[05:12] <Vuen> because the machines would need to have manually configured dns servers, and so on to work
[05:12] <Vuen> yes, i've made a lan
[05:12] <sobersabre> bioshater, yes, it sux.
[05:12] <Vuen> i took two years of cisco networking
[05:13] <sobersabre> what sis card do you have ? how much mem does it have ?
[05:13] <miranda82> Vuen, so u must know that u can set the router ip as dns...
[05:13] <bioshater> sobersabre: hmm, i don't have that problem. which ubuntu version do you run?
[05:13] <Vuen> and for a router to work without using dhcp, the internal machines need a wide variety of configuration options to actually be able to communicate across the router
[05:13] <sobersabre> 6.06.1
[05:13] <Vuen> yes, but you still need to configure a lot of stuff on the clients
[05:13] <Qaldune> snoops: thx dude it worked
[05:13] <Vuen> it's pointless when you can just dhcp, so nobody does it
[05:13] <miranda82> Vuen, ...
[05:13] <sobersabre> do you use sisfb ?
[05:13] <snoops> you're welcome Qaldune :)
[05:13] <bioshater> sobersabre: i run dapper too, only with xfce instead of gnome  (xubuntu)
[05:13] <marcell_> Hi, all. Do someone knows, if Edgy Eft will be able through ShipIt? And if so, when? THX for help
[05:13] <Qaldune> :)
[05:13] <miranda82> Vuen, do u know a way or not?
[05:14] <Qaldune> i've got another doubt but i think that's not very hard...
[05:14] <sobersabre> bioshater, xfce uses far more features of xorg, than the default gnome installation of ubuntu ( e.g. composition etc. )
[05:14] <Qaldune> can i upgrade to the next ubuntu release without burning any cd?
[05:14] <Vuen> sure. set your ip to 169.254.x.x, broadcast a ping. then set your ip to 192.168.0.x, repeat. 192.168.1.x, repeat.
[05:14] <Qaldune> just using apt-get or something alike?
[05:14] <Vuen> eventually you'll get responses.
[05:14] <bioshater> sobersabre: not by default
[05:15] <defrysk> Qaldune, if you did not install anything obscure it should be doable
[05:15] <miranda82> Vuen, in 2 years of cisco networking they haven t told you that ping is not a obligatory response?
[05:15] <Vuen> miranda82: the easiest way is just to go sit in front of one of the windows machines, pull out the keyboard, and type "ipconfig".
[05:15] <Qaldune> anything obscure could mean something in official repositories?
[05:15] <Vuen> miranda82: yes, i know, you better hope the windows machines aren't blocking in
[05:15] <Vuen> it*
[05:15] <[H] 3b0R> anyone here banned from cedega for no reason?
[05:16] <miranda82> Vuen, very clever... i see how cisco netowrking level is...
[05:16] <miranda82> lol
[05:16] <defrysk> Qaldune, anything outside the official repos, automatix etc
[05:16] <Vuen> miranda82: the question you're asking is ridiculous. are you trying to hack into a network or something?
[05:16] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: is not paying no reason?
[05:16] <miranda82> more or less
[05:16] <Vuen> because if you're the sysadmin, just go type "ipconfig" into a console
[05:16] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: no?
[05:16] <Qaldune> ok
[05:16] <Qaldune> thx defrysk
[05:16] <miranda82> i just want to know the adresses of the other machines
[05:16] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: oh. well then no?
[05:16] <Vuen> otherwise, sorry, but i don't know enough about cracking, and frankly i don't really want to help you.
[05:16] <Qaldune> c ya guys
[05:16] <bioshater> sobersabre: maybe the problem only occurs with your specific sis model. which one is it? lspci -n | grep 0000:01:00.0
[05:16] <defrysk> Qaldune, for more questions go to #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <pty> miranda82: have you tried etherape?
[05:17] <miranda82> pty, etherape?
[05:17] <Qaldune> ok
[05:17] <miranda82> pty, kind of ethereal?
[05:17] <pty> similar
[05:17] <miranda82> pty, u mean sniffing packets and check the headers?
[05:17] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir, ok, im banned for no reason, maybe i gave tomuch support,since i wa sthe only one who answered people:P
[05:17] <sobersabre> bioshater, 10de:0110 (rev b2)
[05:17] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: thats weird
[05:17] <pty> miranda82: it draws a diagram of the network on the fly
[05:17] <[H] 3b0R> yes
[05:17] <miranda82> pty, wow, impressive
[05:18] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: i suppose you could make a new ID? or email them
[05:18] <miranda82> pty, but the problem is that i have not a correct ip adress for the network
[05:18] <marcell_> Hi, all. Do someone knows, if Edgy Eft will be able through ShipIt? And if so, when? THX for help
[05:18] <Vuen> miranda82: if you're interested in cracking into a network, you should download nUbuntu
[05:18] <patient> See you guys, I gotta go
[05:18] <Vuen> and learn the tools it has. one of them is bound to do exactly what you want.
[05:18] <pty> huh?  so you're not on the network?
[05:18] <sobersabre> bioshater, have you got the pci id ?
[05:18] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: its no great problem, i just think its so weird...
[05:18] <bioshater> sobersabre: 10de, are you sure? 10de is the vendor code for nvivdia, sis would be 1039
[05:18] <miranda82> pty, ok, it's a WLAN i got the key, but somehow the router has dhcp disabled
[05:19] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: i used to post alot of useful info, buti  stopped paying and now i cant post ;)
[05:19] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: their loss ;)
[05:19] <miranda82> and my friend won't come back until 2 motnhs
[05:19] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: its the irc channel im talking about...
[05:19] <miranda82> pty, and the router does not give me ip
[05:19] <Intangir> miranda82: you might be able to just manually set an IP in the right range, and get access again
[05:19] <Vuen> miranda82: you've got a wireless key to a network, but dhcp is disabled?
[05:20] <Vuen> that's funny... you almost certainly have the wrong key
[05:20] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: oh whats the IRC channel?
[05:20] <pty> miranda82: can you plug it in with a cable?
[05:20] <miranda82> pty, no..
[05:20] <miranda82> pty, it's in his flat
[05:20] <Vuen> miranda82: dhcp is almost certainly enabled, what's more likely is you just have the wrong key.
[05:20] <miranda82> Intangir, i don  knwo the range...
[05:20] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: yes, #cedega on this network
[05:20] <sobersabre> bioshater  :) you're right, wrong tty :)
[05:20] <miranda82> Vuen, believe me..
[05:20] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: can u do me a favor go in there and ask?
[05:20] <Vuen> well, how do you know you have the right key?
[05:20] <miranda82> Vuen, he gave me
[05:21] <pty> miranda82: install kismet; if his network has wpa and his dhcp is disabled i'd give up
[05:21] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: id rather not ;) just use irssi thru some shell account
[05:21] <ryctor> if you get an ip
[05:21] <miranda82> Vuen, i cracked
[05:21] <sobersabre> bioshater, 1039:6325
[05:21] <miranda82> Vuen, both
[05:21] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: or here ill tell you an op to message
[05:21] <valehru> Hey guys, is there a way I can play music through beep media player while watching a movie at the same time in totem?  Currently beep displays the error "Couldnt open audio"
[05:21] <dcordes> miranda82: are you talking about a wireless router or a wireless AP only?
[05:22] <miranda82> dcordes, um
[05:22] <miranda82> AP i think
[05:22] <bioshater> sobersabre: yeah, i have that one in my shuttle barebone
[05:22] <Vuen> miranda82: in the time it took you to ask this, you could have just written a script to broadcast pings on each network. windows xp by default DOES respond to ping, so you'd almost certainly get a response somewhere.
[05:22] <dcordes> so your router and ap are two sperate devices?
[05:22] <miranda82> Vuen, aish..
[05:22] <bioshater> sobersabre: and it runs okay in 1024x768/16bpp
[05:22] <Vuen> i'm currently on a network with 4 xp machines
[05:22] <Vuen> i just tested, and all 4 respond to ping
[05:22] <miranda82> ok
[05:23] <dcordes> miranda82: so your router and ap are two sperate devices?
[05:23] <exile> can someone help i'm trying to install ati drivers and it says the following line sudo apt-get install ubuntu-fglrx-amd64generic but all i get is E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) could someone help.
[05:23] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: maybe your name is too 'l33tspeak' for them
[05:23] <sobersabre> bioshater, I am enabling sisfb, and rebooting.
[05:23] <sobersabre> acc. to driver's author sisfb is the key.
[05:23] <miranda82> dcordes, no, sorry
[05:23] <sobersabre> bye
[05:23] <Vuen> if you don't get any responses, i highly doubt all of the windows machines are blocking it; what's more likely is that you just don't have the right key.
[05:23] <miranda82> dcordes, bothe are the same
[05:23] <JuJuBee> Should I be using java from Sun or the package from Synaptic?
[05:23] <dcordes> miranda82: well do you have the login data to your internet connection?
[05:23] <dcordes> from your provider?
[05:24] <miranda82> dcordes, ???????????
[05:24] <Vuen> JuJuBee: you mean the sun package from universe?
[05:24] <miranda82> wtf?
[05:24] <dcordes> miranda82: wtf? i'm trying to help stoopid thing
[05:24] <JuJuBee> Not sure what I mean, just know I am getting errors trying to run a .jar file.
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !krita
[05:24] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 2516 kB, installed size 7976 kB
[05:24] <dcordes> forget about lolz help yourself
[05:24] <Vuen> dcordes: he's trying to crack into a network. he's apparently 'cracked' the wireless key, but dhcp is disabled.
[05:24] <JuJuBee> SO, what java should I install?
[05:24] <miranda82> Vuen, she
[05:25] <dcordes> Vuen: she said it was in her own flag
[05:25] <tsoler> is nolie here?
[05:25] <Vuen> JuJuBee: if you're not concerned about using proprietary software, activate the universe/multiverse repositories and apt-get install sun-java-jre
[05:25] <Vuen> or java-sun-jre
[05:25] <Vuen> i forget what it's called
[05:25] <Vuen> !java
[05:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:25] <dcordes> why wouldn't she just do a reset with a pencil and type in the login data lol
[05:25] <Vuen> sun-java5-jre
[05:25] <devilz> why why do i have problems with updating xserver-xorg-core to 1.0.2
[05:25] <dcordes> miranda82: btw how did you crack in?
[05:25] <dcordes> ''
[05:26] <miranda82> dcordes, just to check my friend gave me the correct one
[05:26] <dcordes> i didn't ask how but why
[05:26] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: what you mean with irssi inside an shell account?
[05:26] <dcordes> reset the router to default settings and retype in your login dataq
[05:26] <miranda82> dcordes, i told u why
[05:26] <skel> anyone installed zenoss on ubuntu? I've got dapper server installed and I installed snmpd but I don't have any snmpconf script to run?
[05:26] <miranda82> dcordes, it 's in my mate's flat
[05:27] <dcordes> i didn't ask fpr a why but for a how
[05:27] <dcordes> why don't you ask your mate?
[05:27] <dcordes> ??
[05:27] <miranda82> he's in holidays for 2 months
[05:27] <pty> phone him?
[05:27] <dcordes> yea
[05:27] <miranda82> i cracked it sniffing, and injecting
[05:27] <miranda82> dcordes, he gave me the correct key
[05:27] <Vuen> miranda82: the best way to go about this is to get nUbuntu and get acquainted with its software. you don't need an ip address if you have the right software; you can just sniff the packets going across the wireless and see what ips they have.
[05:27] <dcordes> maybe mac filtering is enabled
[05:28] <Intangir> [H] 3b0R: i asked about you, no one is saying anything, the channel is dead
[05:28] <pty> what encryption is he using?
[05:28] <hahaha> a question for you rsync gurus: I have  a file here at the office that is big but farked up and a good copy at home. I want to fix the bad copy here from the good copy at home. I try using rsync -avz and it doesn't do anything to the file. is there a  way to force rsync to look inside the file and make it an exact copy of what is at home?
[05:28] <miranda82> ok guys..
[05:28] <miranda82> wait
[05:28] <Vuen> hahaha: how big? is it impractical to replace the file entirely?
[05:29] <patient> How do I install asterisk?
[05:29] <[H] 3b0R> Intangir: ok
[05:29] <hahaha> vuen: it's about 700 MB. transfering the whole thing to work here would take all day.
[05:29] <Vuen> :(
[05:29] <sproingie> hahaha: you can tell rsync to use md5 instead of date stamps.  check the man page
[05:29] <hahaha> sproingie: I didn't see anything about md5 in the man page.. that's why I'm here;)
[05:29] <patient> I wanna manage all my IP phones, can someone help me?
[05:30] <miranda82> pty, WEP
[05:30] <MtJB> i am trying to run newly installed flightgear, it crashes at startup saying "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[05:30] <hahaha> sproingie: and if I use md5 will it just replace the whole file? or just the bits that are corrupted?
[05:31] <MtJB> i am trying to run newly installed flightgear, but it crashes
[05:31] <Vuen> hahaha: maybe you can set back the date stamp on the file
[05:31] <devilz> how do i get convert command?
[05:31] <devilz> what package do i need to install
[05:31] <Alakazamz0r> convert?
[05:32] <sproingie> hahaha: far as i know, if the file is different, it will just replace the whole file.  rsync doesn't transfer patches as far as i know
[05:32] <devilz> Alakazamz0r: yes
[05:32] <Alakazamz0r> devilz, sudo aptitude search convert
[05:32] <hahaha> lame... well, I'm tring with -c which should use checksums... let's see what happens...
[05:33] <devilz> Alakazamz0r: there is some command 'convert -resize 640x480 -colors 14 wallpaper.png splashimage.xpm && gzip splashimage.xpm'
[05:33] <devilz> but it says convert 'command not found'
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> devilz, http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=%22convert+-resize%22&btnG=Search
[05:34] <patient> Can someone help me?
[05:34] <MtJB> i am not going to say be patient
[05:34] <Vuen> devilz: hehe, you're trying to make your own boot splash, aren't you. do you have a link to the guide you're following?
[05:34] <nolimitsoya> !anyone > patient
[05:34] <Alakazamz0r> patient, whats the problem.
[05:34] <Vuen> !ask
[05:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:35] <infinito> doen anyone know where to get the google api key fot using it with deskbar-applet??
[05:35] <sproingie> hahaha: it's rsync -I -c
[05:35] <snoops> hey, umm I'm looking for an application which will map out my network graphically(and not go outside my network), and hopefully be able to tell me how far away(long) each cable on my network is.. there's a windows app I have for my switch which tells me cable lengths
[05:35] <skel> does anyone know what package snmpconfig exists in?
[05:35] <MtJB> what does it mean when an app says "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[05:35] <Mnemonikj> Hi all people !!!
[05:35] <Vuen> hello :)
[05:35] <Toma-> MtJB: means something is blocking your sound. usually esd
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> devilz, Version: ImageMagick 6.2.4 09/21/06 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
[05:36] <Mnemonikj> Hi!!!
[05:36] <skel> snoops: I have no idea how you currently have an app that does that considering every point in the network would have to have the capability of measuring signal
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> i have it installed on my system through apt-getr
[05:36] <Alakazamz0r> apt-get*
[05:36] <MtJB> Toma-  so maybe i can kill esd and cure the problem?
[05:36] <sproingie> snoops: i suspect that app is just a front end for a firmware feature in your switch
[05:36] <sproingie> snoops: unless someone's ported it to linux, forget about it
[05:36] <Toma-> MtJB: more than likely
[05:36] <ewhitehill_work> Hell, I feel really dorky about asking this, but google seems to be no help
[05:36] <MtJB> Toma-  a million thank yous to you and to all your family
[05:36] <skel> snoops: I agree with sproingie
[05:36] <Toma-> :>
[05:37] <Alakazamz0r> devilz, sudo aptitude show imagemagick
[05:37] <MtJB> :)
[05:37] <ewhitehill_work> It appears as though gksu is broken on my box
[05:37] <Vuen> ewhitehill_work: it's gksudo
[05:37] <ewhitehill_work> yeah, i wasn't able to type all it in...fatfinger
[05:37] <snoops> oh, right must just be a firmware feature.. okay.. so how about an app to work out every machine on my network, and their names..
[05:37] <Vuen> ah
[05:37] <ewhitehill_work> I've tried apt-get remove, apt-get ionstall
[05:37] <Vuen> what does it do? does it tell you the password is wrong?
[05:37] <ewhitehill_work> and it's still broken
[05:38] <Vuen> does it simply not run?
[05:38] <MtJB> praise baud!  flightgear now works!  :)
[05:38] <ewhitehill_work> Vuen, yes
[05:38] <Vuen> try apt-get remove --purge
[05:38] <Vuen> yes what?
[05:38] <Alakazamz0r> yeah purge
[05:38] <skel> snoops: I think cheops will do that
[05:38] <ewhitehill_work> sudo apt-get remove --purge gksudo
[05:38] <ewhitehill_work> ?
[05:38] <Vuen> yep
[05:39] <Mnemonikj> f
[05:39] <Alakazamz0r> sudo aptitude purge gksudo
[05:39] <Alakazamz0r> that works too
[05:39] <Vuen> i'm not a big fan of aptitude
[05:39] <Mnemonikj> d
[05:39] <Alakazamz0r> to each their own
[05:39] <Vuen> i really don't like how it tries to solve dependencies in elaborate ways
[05:39] <snoops> great, will try it out, thanks skel
[05:39] <ewhitehill_work> sudo: unable to lookup rfd via gethostbyname()
[05:39] <ewhitehill_work> Reading package lists... Done
[05:39] <ewhitehill_work> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:39] <ewhitehill_work> Package gksudo is not installed, so not removed
[05:39] <ewhitehill_work> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[05:39] <ashzilla> I have an increidbly serious issue
[05:39] <Vuen> i prefer that apt-get just tells me whats wrong so i can do it myself
[05:39] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, do share.
[05:40] <ashzilla> I just opened a .doc file directly form the web with Open Office, spent THREE hours going through and typing in terms for my midterm in an hour
[05:40] <JuJuBee> I keep getting an error when I am trying to run a java program.  java --jar TabCompletionGradeBook-1.0-beta4.1.jar
[05:40] <JuJuBee> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[05:40] <devilz> Vuen: i do have yes
[05:40] <devilz> why
[05:40] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: when I saved the file, and went to /tmp NOTHING is located there
[05:40] <ashzilla> Then, when I went back into Open Office and tried to reopen the document under recent documents, it said the file did not exist
[05:40] <JuJuBee> I asked on #java and they told me to install Sun's java not the gnu version.
[05:40] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: WHERE IS THAT FILE!
[05:41] <Vuen> uhoh
[05:41] <Alakazamz0r> updatedb && locate filename
[05:41] <Alakazamz0r> oops
[05:41] <Alakazamz0r> sudo updatedb && locate filename
[05:41] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: what?
[05:41] <Alakazamz0r> paste that into a command prompt
[05:41] <ewhitehill_work> Vuen, so how screwed am i? :-)
[05:41] <zhLilDoggi> whats the command to undo "sudo ndiswrapper -m"?
[05:41] <Vuen> ashzilla: you should definitely not be editing and saving a temp file from online! :(
[05:41] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, please dont use IRC as root.
[05:42] <Vuen> ewhitehill_work: maybe something is wrong with your sudoers file. try opening it up with visudo and see if anything has changed
[05:42] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: am I goign to be able to recover it?
[05:42] <Mnemonikj> dsfds
[05:42] <devilz> Alakazamz0r: what is ImageMagick
[05:42] <Vuen> i don't really know much about sudoers so i don't really know what you'd be looking for
[05:42] <Alakazamz0r> i dont know... probably.
[05:42] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: if not, I'm going to fail this midterm, it's open note and I just spent 3 hours taking notes.
[05:42] <Vuen> but i've broken sudo before and that's where the problem was for me
[05:42] <Mnemonikj> hi
[05:43] <stm> where can i get some vector icons?
[05:43] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, why'd you save it to /tmp
[05:43] <Alakazamz0r> and B... why are you running your OS as root
[05:43] <ewhitehill_work> Vuen, no changes since 7-13-06
[05:43] <Vuen> Alakazamz0r: how do you know he's root?
[05:43] <Alakazamz0r> she* im guessing
[05:43] <Vuen> ewhitehill_work: hm. i'm out of ideas. i googled the specific error message you got, and there are no results :(
[05:43] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: i opened it from the web
[05:43] <Alakazamz0r> ./whois ashzilla
[05:43] <Trae> I'm on the "Internet Updates" tab of "Software Sources",  Should I check "Proposed Updates" and "Backported Updates" ?
[05:44] <Mnemonikj>   ZiB Script v1.29
[05:44] <Vuen> try on the forums, or submit a bug report
[05:44] <ewhitehill_work> Vuen, that's why I came here :-(
[05:44] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: I didn't think it would AUTOMATICALLY get deleted, what sense is it in having a temp directory
[05:44] <ewhitehill_work> ok
[05:44] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: I'm not seeing anything, where would that saved file have gone?
[05:44] <ewhitehill_work> thanks for the help! :-)
[05:44] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, do this in command line
[05:44] <Alakazamz0r> sudo mount -a && updatedb && locate filename
[05:44] <patient> Ok i'm gone
[05:45] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: how can I use wildcards to search anything with
[05:45] <ashzilla> Checklist
[05:45] <vitriol> anybody know what package i'd get the python gtk.glade module from?
[05:45] <Alakazamz0r> just type the part of the file name you know ashzilla
[05:45] <Alakazamz0r> like locate midt
[05:45] <Alakazamz0r> for midterm
[05:45] <ashzilla> bash: 2: command not found
[05:45] <ashzilla> [1] +  Stopped                 sudo mount -a && updatedbb && locate Checklist1
[05:46] <kmaynard> fg
[05:46] <Alakazamz0r> i made a typing mistake ashzilla
[05:46] <kmaynard> looks like you backgrounded it
[05:46] <Alakazamz0r> sudo mount -a && updatedb && locate hecklist
[05:46] <Alakazamz0r> do that one
[05:46] <Alakazamz0r> no, 1 & is backgrounded
[05:47] <Alakazamz0r> updatedb & would be backgrounded
[05:47] <ashzilla> updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[05:47] <kmaynard> sudo updatedb
[05:47] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, do this
[05:47] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: nothing wa reutrned
[05:48] <Alakazamz0r> 1st: sudo mount -a
[05:48] <Vuen> :(
[05:48] <Alakazamz0r> 2nd: sudo updatedb && locate hecklist
[05:48] <skel> does anyone know where I can get snmpconfig?
[05:48] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: that file must be here somewhere, it was temp. I'm going to honestly break down in tears... 3 hours of notes before my midterm.
[05:48] <sivang> !he
[05:48] <ubotu>          
[05:48] <kmaynard> wtf?
[05:48] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, its not the operating systems fault, remember that.
[05:48] <Vuen> if you're running as root, are you on a livecd?
[05:48] <kmaynard> hebrew?
[05:48] <bioshater> maybe
[05:48] <Alakazamz0r> the proper place to store those kind of files is in /home/yourusername
[05:48] <Vuen> ashzilla: surely someone else in the class took notes. when is the midterm?
[05:49] <coreymon77> !he
[05:49] <ubotu>          
[05:49] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: why would it auto delete tmp?
[05:49] <sivang> kmaynard: indeed, sorry, I was just testing that it works :)
[05:49] <Vuen> you can probably get a copy from them
[05:49] <ashzilla> Vuen: in less than an hour
[05:49] <sivang> coreymon77: see?
[05:49] <kmaynard> sivang, that was pretty cool
[05:49] <Vuen> ashzilla: when did you take these notes?
[05:49] <sivang> kmaynard: there supposed to be one for every channel :)
[05:49] <Alakazamz0r> it doesn't autodelete tmp ashzilla
[05:49] <acetoxy> Yow! Are there any packages with Firefox 2.0 out there yet? :)
[05:49] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: I closed the file and it was automatically deleted
[05:49] <ashzilla> What do you mean?
[05:50] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: there must be some other solution to retrieve this
[05:50] <gerolin> hola
[05:50] <ashzilla> Can anyone help?
[05:50] <sparkleytone> rebooted after dist-upgrading from breezy....ssh is still broken
[05:50] <Vuen> acetoxy: ff 2.0 is standard in edgy, which will be released in three days.
[05:50] <gerolin> vhjhols
[05:50] <ashzilla> Please.... I'm desperate
[05:50] <sivan> !he
[05:50] <ubotu>          
[05:50] <gerolin> hola
[05:50] <Alakazamz0r> ashzilla, i think you just dont know where you saved it.
[05:50] <Vuen> acetoxy: the release candidate is out if you really can't wait.
[05:50] <coreymon77> 
[05:50] <sivan> who can change what !he displays ?
[05:50] <acetoxy> Vuen: Ok, thanks. :)
[05:50] <coreymon77> sorry
[05:50] <coreymon77> i mean
[05:50] <hamil> the final release is also out on mozilla pages..
[05:50] <coreymon77> silvan: nope nothing
[05:50] <Vuen> ashzilla: what's more likely is that the file was deleted when you closed the browser.
[05:50] <sivan> we seem to have an issue there, it lacks the part of the channel itself :)
[05:50] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: I just tried to reopen the file under "Recent documents" in the world processor and it says it doesn't exist
[05:50] <acetoxy> Vuen: Firefox 2.0 was released today, so that's what I was thinking about
[05:51] <Vuen> ashzilla: when did you write these notes? several days ago?
[05:51] <sivan> coreymon77: yes, I noticed now, thanks for the reminder
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> is /tmp mounted?
[05:51] <ashzilla> Vuen: No, that's the point
[05:51] <Vuen> just now?
[05:51] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: I don't know
[05:51] <sivang> Seveas: ping
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> sudo mount
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> look for /
[05:51] <Alakazamz0r> well
[05:51] <Vuen> ashzilla: the purpose of /tmp is not to leave files lying around indefinitely. it's so applications can hold files open for temporary reasons.
[05:52] <Alakazamz0r> lol, nevermind.
[05:52] <Alakazamz0r> root is obviously mounted.
[05:52] <Vuen> if you click a .doc in your web browser, it stores a copy in /tmp and opens it in openoffice. once you close openoffice and then the browser, the file is no longer needed, so it deletes it.
[05:52] <ashzilla> Alakazamz0r: where can this file go?
[05:52] <ashzilla> Vuen: Where is it deleted to? I MUST recover it
[05:53] <ashzilla> I don't have much time
[05:53] <Vuen> files should not be left lying around in /tmp. openoffice/firefox/linux did exactly what it's supposed to.
[05:53] <Vuen> ashzilla: if you're running irc as root, does that mean you're on a livecd?
[05:53] <ashzilla> Vuen: no
[05:53] <Vuen> what's your filesystem type? ext3?
[05:53] <ashzilla> yes
[05:54] <MnemonikJ> anybody knows, how can make callback settings(dialup) on ubuntu 6.06?
[05:54] <Vuen> okay. files are basically unrecoverable from ext3. the only thing you can really do is grep the entire drive as raw data for portions of text in your document
[05:54] <Seveas> sivang?
[05:54] <Vuen> it's almost certainly going to be fragmented about the drive
[05:54] <Vuen> and encoded in whatever .doc format openoffice uses
[05:55] <Vuen> so this will take you a lot more time than it would to just remake the notes.
[05:55] <ashzilla> I don't have 3 hours to retake notes
[05:55] <saminad> guys, does the taskbar flash when somebody types something and you have  gaim minimized?
[05:55] <Vuen> call a friend, have them photocopy you their notes
[05:55] <Vuen> photocopy the textbook
[05:55] <hamil> acetoxy: ff 2.0, for i386 and with english language, can be found here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0.tar.gz
[05:55] <engla> ext3 doesn't fragment unnessecarily
[05:55] <engla> scarily
[05:55] <engla> :)
[05:55] <clearzen> Can anyone tell me how to extract the file structure of a iso file to my hard drive? do you use mkisofs?
[05:55] <Vuen> engla: of course not, no file system fragments unnecessarily
[05:55] <acetoxy> hamil: Yeah, thanks. :)
[05:56] <Lubix> does anyone know why it become such a pain to connect the internet when switching back and forth from linux and windows
[05:56] <saminad> clearzen, mount -o loop foo.iso /some/where
[05:56] <Vuen> i suppose it's actually very unlikely that it's fragmented... you're right
[05:56] <clearzen> saminad: thanx
[05:56] <hamil> acetoxy: that is a tar.gz file, so you will have to build/compile/install yourself..
[05:56] <Vuen> Lubix: ? i don't have this problem, and i switch back and forth regularly. what exactly happens to make it painful?
[05:57] <acetoxy> hamil: It's already compiled
[05:57] <saminad> clearzen, you gotta be root though (??)
[05:57] <Lubix> i have to recycle the modem usually
[05:57] <Lubix> im running with a cable modem
[05:57] <hamil> acetoxy: ok, have not read the readme file yet.. :)
[05:57] <acetoxy> :D
[05:57] <Vuen> i feel bad for ashzilla.
[05:57] <CruX|> hi all how can i fix this ?
[05:58] <arriesp> xao gente me voy a acer capoeira
[05:58] <CruX|>   libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is installed
[05:58] <variant> Vuen: why?
[05:58] <sivan> !he
[05:58] <ubotu>          
[05:58] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[05:58] <Vuen> why on earth would he open a .doc in firefox, write three hours of notes, and hit save? :(
[05:58] <Vuen> why would he think that that alone would keep his document?
[05:58] <Vuen> :(
[05:59] <coreymon77> !he
[05:59] <ubotu>          
[05:59] <Seveas> CruX|, reinstall and never mix debian and ubuntu again
[05:59] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[05:59] <MnemonikJ> Who can help me make dialup connection with callback function?
[05:59] <Vuen> Lubix: you have to... recycle... the modem?
[06:00] <clearzen> saminad: I used that command as root and all it did was give me this message type iso9660 (ro,loop=/dev/loop1) it didn't extract the files from the iso
[06:00] <|_SpY_|> i have installed i new version of php in my machine using apt-get update... how i roll back? i really need the old version of php.. anybody can help me?
[06:01] <matason> Hi - I have a HP Pavillion dv5000 - I am trying to set up dual booting with Windows XP Home etc - I've used Ubuntu to partition the drive and all seems OK - but when I boot with the Windows XP Home CD I get the message - "setup did not find any hard disk drives installed on your computer" - any ideas?
[06:01] <CruX|> Seveas: it's not my machine and i don't know much about deb, so there are mixed ubuntu and debian libraries ? that can't be repaired ?
[06:01] <MnemonikJ>   callback  ...
[06:01] <saminad> clearzen, once you mounted the iso, go to the directory where you mounted it, the files are there
[06:01] <Seveas> CruX|, it might be repairable
[06:01] <saminad> clearzen, or it didn't work , and gave you an error (??)
[06:02] <withaY> are there any tools which allow for wysiwyg PDF editing or adding comments?
[06:02] <iturk> hi there is there any wav player in linux ??
[06:02] <withaY> like acrobat pro on win/mac?
[06:02] <Seveas> CruX|, but chances are that much more is messed up
[06:02] <clearzen> saminad: oh, duh.....=D thanx again
[06:02] <matason> iturk: MPlayer?
[06:02] <ambriento> iturk, any? there's plenty of them
[06:02] <saminad> iturk, play foo.wav . apt-get install sox
[06:02] <saminad> clearzen, you're welcome :)
[06:02] <|_SpY_|> i have installed i new version of php in my machine using apt-get update... how i roll back? i really need the old version of php.. anybody can help me?
[06:03] <CruX|> Seveas: ok thx
[06:03] <jcooke> |_SpY_|, why do you need the old version?
[06:04] <quad3datwork2> when you use apt-key to add a gpg key.. where is the repository at on filesystem?
[06:04] <quad3datwork2> which file/folder is kept in?
[06:04] <Vuen> Seveas: just out of curiousity, how do you know he was using debian debs/repos?
[06:04] <Seveas> Vuen, version numbers
[06:05] <|_SpY_|> jcooke: after a new instaltion.. my php mysql searchs are very very very slowly
[06:05] <Seveas> (and it's a common stupidity to do so)
[06:05] <Vuen> ah
[06:06] <Vuen> you mean because 2.3.6.ds1-4 is a higher version than the ubuntu one, or just the fact that it doesn't have a ubuntu tag?
[06:06] <jcooke> |_SpY_|, what versions did you ugrade from:to
[06:06] <matason> Any ideas?
[06:06] <Seveas> Vuen, debian glibc has 'ds' in its version
[06:06] <Vuen> is this just something you know off the top of your head about debian and glibc?
[06:06] <Seveas> yes
[06:06] <sparkleytone> completely purged and reinstalled openssh-server and i STILL can't ssh to it
[06:06] <|_SpY_|> jcooke: i cant remember the old version of php... the new is 5.1.2
[06:06] <Vuen> is it common for debian debs to have 'ds' tags?
[06:07] <Seveas> no
[06:07] <Vuen> i bow to your knowledge
[06:07] <Vuen> you guys scare me with the amount of crap you know
[06:07] <Seveas> heh
[06:07] <jcooke> |_SpY_|, try apt-get install <php-package>=<version you want>
[06:08] <Vuen> ahh, high noon. nap time.
[06:08] <sparkleytone> can someone look at the last annotation here and possibly help me?
[06:08] <sparkleytone> http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#2
[06:09] <fangorious> [how]  can I convert an swf to an mpg (or something I can play in totem without having to install all the restricted/universe/multiverse plugins)?
[06:09] <Seveas> fangorious, mencoder or transcode iirc can do that
[06:09] <saminad> fangorious, there is some program called swftools (sp??) .. not sure though...
[06:10] <Toma-> didnt know swf was a valid video format...
[06:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> anyone here have a wintvPVR 150 or similiar?
[06:10] <Toma-> xvidcap?
[06:10] <[BTF] Chm0d> what do I need to install in order to get my tuner working
[06:10] <fangorious> thanks, I'll look into those
[06:10] <Toma-> [BTF] Chm0d: tvtime!
[06:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> does that support a wintvpvr 150?
[06:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> What about drivers?
[06:11] <Toma-> if you have /dev/video0, yes
[06:11] <Intangir> i got a package called w32codecs, but im not sure how i installed it
[06:11] <Intangir> and now i need it on another computer
[06:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> i dont even have that /dev/video0
[06:11] <Intangir> where do i get w32codecs
[06:11] <ironwolf> Upgrading to edgy has caused all sound to stop on my system.  I checked google and I saw some problems early on, but no fix listed.  Ideas?
[06:12] <Toma-> [BTF] Chm0d: ahh, youll need bttv then
[06:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> there Intangir
[06:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats what i was lookin fer
[06:12] <Toma-> ironwolf: edgy = not released, shouldnt have done it! :<
[06:13] <thepresenceusa> any ideas for playing asf and wmv files? even vlc wouldn't touch them
[06:13] <Intangir> thepresenceusa: you need w32codecs also
[06:13] <ironwolf> Toma: the rc was listed as believed stable for all users.
[06:13] <Intangir> thepresenceusa: if you figure out how to install them tell me ;)
[06:14] <thepresenceusa> yeah...lol.  blew 8 hours yesterday trying.
[06:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> Intangir: did you get my url i gave you to get the codecs?
[06:14] <Intangir> it used to be in one of the main repositories, but now its not
[06:14] <Intangir> [BTF] Chm0d: ya i looked, it says just apt-get install it, but its not in the repositories i have
[06:14] <Intangir> and this doesnt say which one to add
[06:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> an easier way is automatix
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> www.getautomatix.com
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm wrong url
[06:15] <nalioth> [BTF] Chm0d: not in here, please
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> hold onsec
[06:15] <Intangir> can i opt out of everything else it wants to install?
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> huh?
[06:15] <nalioth> [BTF] Chm0d: automatix and easyubuntu discussion belong somewhere else
[06:15] <Intangir> nalioth: why is that?
[06:15] <[BTF] Chm0d> gawd
[06:15] <zhLilDoggi> is there anyway to get rid of ath0 and change it to wlan0?
[06:16] <Intangir> zhLilDoggi: what difference does it make?
[06:16] <clearzen> Intangir: it's 3rd party blah blah and breaks stuff i guess
[06:16] <zhLilDoggi> my lights on my wireless card don't show up when I install my driver in ndiswrapper
[06:17] <Intangir> if you have atheros cards, just use the madwifi stuff, in the resitricted modules
[06:17] <Intangir> it works great
[06:17] <zhLilDoggi> I has 5.10
[06:17] <Intangir> thats what im using on my wireless dlink card
[06:17] <Intangir> mine shows up as ath0
[06:17] <zhLilDoggi> then why does my card not pick up
[06:17] <zhLilDoggi> ?
[06:18] <zhLilDoggi> I had it going before, just couldn't connect to anything
[06:18] <Intangir> if it picked it up as ath0 it mustve detected it, maybe you just dont have the right wireless settings
[06:18] <Tjoels> how do i know if my X server supports module unloading?
[06:19] <Tjoels> or has it enabled+
[06:19] <Tjoels> ?
[06:19] <zhLilDoggi> is madwifi in 5.10?
[06:19] <Intangir> i dont know
[06:19] <Intangir> i have dapper
[06:19] <Intangir> it might be
[06:19] <Intangir> look for linux-restricted-modules
[06:20] <Intangir> in synaptic
[06:20] <zhLilDoggi> one second...
[06:20] <Intangir> but if its already labeling it ath0, you probably already have if.. maybe
[06:20] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: does "modinfo ath_pci" return many lines or just "could not find module ath_pci"?
[06:21] <Ichi> hi
[06:21] <Tjoels> i have problems upgrading to the newest version of the nvidia driver, the one with the security fix.
[06:21] <zhLilDoggi> I haven't checked
[06:21] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: but first we should check which card/chipset you have
[06:21] <zhLilDoggi> atheros
[06:21] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: okay
[06:22] <Trunks^^> Hey, does anyone know how to fix the graphics error "fatal server error no screens found" i have the same error in all the linux versions
[06:22] <zhLilDoggi> I have BLKWGN.INF
[06:24] <variant> Trunks^^: thats not hte error thats just hte symptom, the error comes above that
[06:24] <Ichi> does anybody know if /sys is a real filesystem or a virtual one that's created on startup?
[06:24] <Trunks^^> ok
[06:24] <whyme> hi all
[06:24] <Nophiq> ji all
[06:24] <Nophiq> hi all
[06:25] <Trunks^^> could it be (EE)No devices detected?
[06:25] <Ichi> Trunks^^: doesn't it say something about failing loading a module?
[06:25] <whyme> am I right in assuming that if I want a service started at boot, I add a link to it in init.d, and then link it at the appropriate /etc/rcX.d/ directory?
[06:25] <Trunks^^> dont know right now i had to restart the pc to get here..
[06:26] <Daniel4711> Hiho
[06:26] <Clinton__> whyme: use update-rc.d  it'll do it for you
[06:26] <Trunks^^> i can try it again and rejoin here later
[06:26] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: for most atheros chipsets you don't need ndiswrapper
[06:26] <Trunks^^> brb
[06:26] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: use madwifi
[06:26] <whyme> Clinton__, ty :)
[06:26] <Clinton__> whyme: np
[06:26] <zhLilDoggi> I know, I know, but does 5.10 have madwifi?
[06:27] <Daniel4711> Do you know how to map the Windows key to the Super key? It seems to be mapped to "Select" for me and I can't find any administration dialog to modify the keymap?
[06:27] <zhLilDoggi> or do I have to scramble for my USB drive?
[06:27] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: did you check "modinfo ath_pci"?
[06:28] <zhLilDoggi> no, wheres it at?
[06:28] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: type: modinfo ath_pci    in a shell
[06:28] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: and don't paste the output here
[06:29] <zhLilDoggi> yeah, I know
[06:29] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: good
[06:29] <zhLilDoggi> it sent back lines
[06:30] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: many lines?
[06:30] <zhLilDoggi> yes, many
[06:30] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: okay, then the module is present
[06:31] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: type: iwconfig    and look for a ath0 interface in the output
[06:31] <Ichi> is there a way to copy a directory with files for wich no user has read permissions without changing them?
[06:32] <zhLilDoggi> okay
[06:33] <zhLilDoggi> found it
[06:33] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: now do: sudo iwlist ath0 scan
[06:34] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: does that return a list of access points?
[06:34] <dcordes> !botsnack
[06:34] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:34] <zhLilDoggi> nope
[06:34] <zhLilDoggi> network is down
[06:34] <paul0> how i upgrade my i810 driver in dapper?
[06:34] <Nophiq> Ichi I don't understand
[06:34] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: sudo ifconfig ath0 up ; sudo iwlist ath0 scan
[06:35] <Ichi> Nophiq: sorry, i'll try to elaborate
[06:35] <Nophiq> permissions are determinate through chmod
[06:35] <Ichi> i'm trying to move my system form my old pata disks to a new sata disk, but when trying to move /sys, lots of files have permissions like 200
[06:35] <Nophiq> Ichi: no problem :)
[06:35] <zhLilDoggi> resource temporarily unavailable
[06:35] <Ichi> that means that you can write to them, but not read them
[06:36] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: hmmm. are you sure the card is okay?
[06:36] <Nophiq> without change permission, right?
[06:36] <zhLilDoggi> yeah, I've tested it in another laptop
[06:36] <Ichi> so i wan't to copy it, but not change the permissions, because i guess they have to be just those
[06:36] <Ichi> yes, without changing them :)
[06:36] <Shadowthrone> I wish to associate Azureus with torrent files -- which file should I point a torrent to?
[06:37] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: and it worked with ubuntu 5.10 before?
[06:37] <zhLilDoggi> when I did ndiswrapper, the green light began to flash, couldn't connect
[06:37] <zhLilDoggi> but now nothing
[06:37] <pooru> just upgraded from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 RC1, and the new background / boot splash didn't seem to make the transition
[06:37] <pooru> is this a known bug?
[06:37] <dcordes> sudo wlanconfig ath0 destroy
[06:37] <Ichi> cp complains about permissions even with -f as root
[06:37] <dcordes> then you have wlan
[06:38] <Ichi> dd complains about both of them being directories
[06:38] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: maybe the ndiswrapper module is still loaded, blocking the card for madwifi
[06:38] <kmaynard> pooru, ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <kmaynard> and for the record, it all works for me
[06:38] <hyphenated> Ichi: uh.. /sys is a virtual filesystem like /proc
[06:38] <pooru> kmaynard: thanks
[06:38] <Ichi> so it's created on startup, right?
[06:38] <TheGateKeeper> Ichi: what about using tar, to move the files, that will retain the permission when you unpack ?
[06:38] <dcordes> sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper
[06:38] <Ichi> tar complained as well
[06:38] <dcordes> sudo modprobe ath_pci
[06:38] <Ichi> tried it too ;)
[06:39] <zhLilDoggi> unable to find package
[06:39] <Nophiq> Ichi try to create by Konqueror, not with shell
[06:39] <Ichi> complains about the permissions
[06:39] <dcordes> sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[06:39] <zhLilDoggi> nevermind
[06:39] <Shadowthrone> How can I view all the currently running processes from the terminal?
[06:39] <bioshater> dcordes: ath_pci must be already loaded, because there is a ath0 interface
[06:39] <zhLilDoggi> found it, it had a -utils on the end of it
[06:39] <Trunks^^> Ichi i didnt find any module error only what module it was loading at the time and it was "wacom"
[06:39] <Nophiq> Ichi try to view who can edit your files
[06:39] <Ichi> hyphenated: then i just have to create a /sys folder and let ubuntu populate it on startup?
[06:39] <Nophiq> with ls -l
[06:40] <jcooke> Ichi, I don't think you want to transfer that directory
[06:40] <Ichi> Nophiq: nobody, the permissions on the problematic files are 200
[06:40] <hyphenated> Ichi: basically, if you booted your computer from a live cd and mounted the drive, all you'd find for /sys is an empty directory
[06:40] <dcordes> bioshater: hmmm
[06:40] <dcordes> remove ndis and reboot
[06:40] <Ichi> jcooke: just let ubuntu create it on startup?
[06:40] <Shadowthrone> How can I view all the currently running processes from the terminal?
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> Shadowthrone: ps -A
[06:40] <jcooke> Ichi, are you trying to copy everything on a disk to another and use that disk to boot after that?
[06:40] <Ichi> hyphenated: thank you :)
[06:41] <Ichi> jcooke: basically yes
[06:41] <Shadowthrone> TheGatKeeper: cheers.
[06:41] <Shadowthrone> TheGateKeeper: cheers.
[06:41] <TheGateKeeper> Shadowthrone: np :-)
[06:41] <jcooke> Ichi, just do a fresh install on the new drive, then copy from the old drive to the new
[06:41] <zhLilDoggi> it don't want to remove
[06:41] <Ichi> it's a bit more complicated cause i'm rearranging the partitions, but basically that's it
[06:41] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: what does it say?
[06:41] <chrismhampson> q
[06:42] <jcooke> I highly doubt you'd be able to boot the other drive just by manually copying files over to it, not without more effort than it's worth
[06:42] <Ichi> I wanted to avoid the reinstall part :P
[06:42] <zhLilDoggi> when I do apt-get remove ndiswrapper -- not found
[06:42] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: how did you install it?
[06:42] <zhLilDoggi> I installed -utils :/
[06:42] <Ichi> that's how we replicate servers at my job, untar the base system, install lilo an go
[06:43] <Ichi> i guessed i could copy, install grub, and go
[06:43] <Shadowthrone> I believe there is a way to kill processes by clicking on them -- how is this possible?
[06:43] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: which utils?
[06:43] <zhLilDoggi> ndiswrapper-utils
[06:43] <{_-IcE-_}> Oct 24 18:42:49 icebox postfix/qmgr[4819] : 96448D01E5: from=<www-data@danielschembri.com>, size=328, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[06:43] <{_-IcE-_}> Oct 24 18:42:52 icebox postfix/smtp[14595] : 96448D01E5: to=<d_schembri@hotmail.com>, relay=mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.244.72] , delay=3, status=sent (250  <20061024164249.96448D01E5@icezonemalta.com> Queued mail for delivery)
[06:43] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: so remove them
[06:43] <Lubix> who you reccomend a fresh install for edgy or doing the upgrade i have the edgy beta now and it is pretty buggy?
[06:43] <{_-IcE-_}> can any1 see something wrong in there pls?
[06:43] <KenSentMe> I'm using acroread to fill in pdf forms. Works well, but when i try to print the form half of the text (not the text i typed) disapears. Anyone have that problem and a solution?
[06:43] <dcordes> sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[06:43] <dcordes> ?
[06:43] <Subhuman> Shadowthrone, system/admin/system monitor
[06:43] <{_-IcE-_}> just a simple php script to send an email but its not being recieved :S
[06:43] <hyphenated> Ichi: we use a lot of solaris at work, so we use jumpstart for the servers. haven't played with linux's equivalent (kickstart)
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> Shadowthrone: I would have thought you need to use the 'kill' command from the cli
[06:44] <Lubix> HellO!
[06:44] <Ichi> kickstart... think i used that for the 32 bit chroot
[06:44] <Nophiq> Ice: firewall problems?
[06:44] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: did it work?
[06:44] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: btw who told you to use ndiswrapper when you have an atheros chipset? you should beat him
[06:44] <bioshater> dcordes: right :)
[06:44] <Shadowthrone> TheGateKeeper: Yes, I thought there was a command you could type in, and then whatever you clicked on would be killed. Maybe not...
[06:45] <Shadowthrone> Subhuman: cheers.
[06:45] <eyS_c0ld> ok quick newb question, when i do a sudo apt-get install XXX can i force ubuntu to stop asking me for the cd?
[06:45] <kmaynard> eyS_c0ld, yup
[06:45] <eyS_c0ld> instaled just go online and download the pkg
[06:45] <qid> is there a gui of some sort for ssh-agent? I want it to run on startup, but if it does it in command-line then I don't know if it'll work, since ubuntu boots straight into X
[06:45] <iter> eyS_c0ld: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <eyS_c0ld> iter and kmaynard, thankyou
[06:45] <iter> eyS_c0ld: comment out the cdrom line(s)
[06:45] <{_-IcE-_}> Nophiq : server is behind a mikrotik routerboard, but i doubt it will stop it from sending mail
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> Shadowthrone: well I haven't heard of that one... lol
[06:45] <kmaynard> eyS_c0ld, edit /etc/apt/sources.list  comment out the CD line
[06:45] <bioshater> dcordes: maybe someone who had a marvell card (who thought each wifi card must be installed like that)
[06:45] <kmaynard> then apt-get update
[06:45] <pooru> is anyone able to email/send me the new wallpaper? since my update didn't seem to include it
[06:46] <dcordes> bioshater: yep
[06:46] <iter> anyone here have a linksys wpc11 pcmcia card
[06:46] <Shadowthrone> TheGateKeeper: Not to worry. Thanks anyway.
[06:46] <iter> got a friend here who can't get hers to associated
[06:46] <dcordes> well i also had to use it once. before i bought atheros mini pci
[06:46] <iter> associate that is
[06:46] <Ichi> well people, many thanks for your help
[06:46] <iter> iwconfig recognizes it
[06:46] <Ichi> off to finish moving, bye!
[06:46] <dcordes> bioshater: had a broadcom chipset which was a complete pita
[06:47] <bioshater> dcordes: marvell and broadcom should be blown up for not reasing any specs. just like any other h/w manufacturer who behaves like that.
[06:47] <zhLilDoggi> sorry
[06:47] <zhLilDoggi> power outage
[06:47] <dcordes> bioshater: yep that's just so stupid. they lose thousands of customers by that
[06:48] <zhLilDoggi> "while removing ndiswrapper-utils, directory '/etc/ndiswrapper' not empty so not removed"
[06:48] <EvilDin> hi, am i put in pc one more disk, how do i mount it that other useres will be able to write on it
[06:48] <bioshater> dcordes: ralink has a better driver policy
[06:48] <dcordes> Doggy: sudo rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper
[06:49] <zhLilDoggi> kay
[06:49] <Nophiq> What kind of program is ndiswrapper?
[06:49] <zhLilDoggi> and..done
[06:49] <Paul__UK> hey there, probably a frequently asked question, is there a way of installing #ubuntu
[06:49] <bioshater> Nophiq: a wrapper for windows wifi drivers
[06:49] <Paul__UK> in a minimal app mode or just the os?
[06:49] <Nophiq> bioshater: thanks
[06:50] <zhLilDoggi> dcordes - removed
[06:50] <nuked_omen> can i download and install easy ubuntu offline?
[06:50] <nuked_omen> i mean only install offline
[06:50] <qid> yeah, downloading offline would be an interesting trick
[06:50] <nuked_omen> :P
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> Paul__UK: I think if you use the alternate cd you can just install a base system, then add whatever you want
[06:51] <Shadowthrone> I want torrent files to be associated with Azureus -- in Windows I would point to azureus.exe, what should I point to in Ubuntu?
[06:51] <dcordes> Doggy: sudi apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[06:51] <dcordes> and see if it works now
[06:51] <zhLilDoggi> k
[06:52] <nuked_omen> sudi?
[06:52] <Paul__UK> thegatekeeper, sure i will have a look at that
[06:52] <bioshater> sudo even
[06:52] <dcordes> then sudo ifconfig ath0 down, sudo ifconfig ath0 up, iwlist ath0 scan
[06:52] <Distro^Junkie> anyone got some tips on trimming down ram usage ?
[06:53] <bioshater> dcordes: sometimes the madwifi driver refuses scanning when the card is not associated to an AP
[06:53] <zhLilDoggi> now its giving me an input/output error
[06:53] <nuked_omen> i want to have propeitary formats support but easy ubuntu, automatix require internet connection.. is there a way to install them offline
[06:53] <nuked_omen> and why does ubuntu assumes people have fast internet connection by default
[06:53] <nuked_omen> it's supposed to be linux for human beings
[06:53] <bioshater> dcordes: for scanning i put ath0 in ad-hoc mode first. or i use monitor mode and airodump-ng.
[06:53] <Paul__UK> thegatekeeper, you mean pyramid linux or is there another one on the ubuntu site?
[06:53] <ricanelite> Hello everyone does anyone know if the Ubuntu update on October 26 is also going to work on Apple Computers?
[06:54] <nuked_omen> few people here got good connction
[06:54] <Distro^Junkie> nuked_omen, cause this is the age of high speed
[06:54] <jcooke> Anyone have a broadcom card(HP Pavilion DV series) know what happened to the wireless drivers with the recent Ubuntu auto updates
[06:54] <EvilDin> am how do i add group??
[06:54] <dcordes> bioshater: your're right airodump is most save way for scanning. i use it too.
[06:54] <nuked_omen> Distro^Junkie: it's not my fault that there ain't companies that provide high-speed internet
[06:54] <dcordes> doggy: when you try to apt-get remove it?
[06:54] <nuked_omen> otherwise, i would've get one
[06:54] <Distro^Junkie> and most 56k modems are winmodems
[06:55] <zhLilDoggi> SIOCSIFFLAG: input/output error
[06:55] <zhLilDoggi> no
[06:55] <bioshater> dcordes: and with patched madwifi, you can even use aireplay :)
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> Paul__UK: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/
[06:55] <zhLilDoggi> when I try to ifconfig ath0 up
[06:55] <zhLilDoggi> sudo*
[06:55] <dcordes> bioshater: patched? i usually don't patch anything and it works fine!
[06:55] <bioshater> dcordes: i mean packet injection, not scanning
[06:55] <nuked_omen> ubuntu is good only if you have a broadband internet connection.. if not, it's just another distro
[06:55] <Paul__UK> thegatekeeper, thanks!
[06:56] <nuked_omen> nothing special
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> Paul__UK: yw :-)
[06:56] <bioshater> dcordes: aireplay, not airodump. disassociating others from their APs and nasty stuff like that
[06:56] <dcordes> bioshater you mean aireplay -3 ?
[06:57] <dcordes> oh yea and -0
[06:57] <bioshater> dcordes: -0
[06:57] <nuked_omen> what's a good media encoder for linux?
[06:57] <dcordes> deauth is allways funny
[06:57] <dcordes> muahaha
[06:57] <dcordes> brb
[06:57] <bioshater> dcordes: so you don't have to patch madwifi for that?
[06:57] <GreyGhost> I have a Intel 845 onbbobard graphics...i installed the drivers as  per the steps given in the ubuntuguide.org ..... how do i know if the driver was installed??
[06:57] <Shadowthrone> I want torrent files to be associated with Azureus -- in Windows I would point to azureus.exe, what should I point to in Ubuntu?
[06:58] <nuked_omen> Shadowthrone: gnome or KDE?
[06:58] <Shadowthrone> nuked_omen: Gnome.
[06:58] <macozz> Hi! Anyone experimented problems with sound (alsa) recently in Dapper?
[06:59] <zhLilDoggi> so...
[06:59] <nuked_omen> Shadowthrone: right-click the file, choose properties, go to open with tab and change the association
[06:59] <zhLilDoggi> ath0 is apparently not working anymore
[06:59] <nuked_omen> Shadowthrone: if azureus isn't in the list, just add it
[06:59] <macozz> I just had this problems today morning, suddently, without major updates...
[06:59] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: did you reboot after uninstalling ndiswrapper?
[06:59] <nuked_omen> macozz: ubuntu updats suck
[07:00] <nuked_omen> they break the system
[07:00] <Shadowthrone> nuked_omen: Ah, so easy! Thanks.
[07:00] <nuked_omen> i have 10 updates waiting, and i won't install them
[07:00] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: maybe the card is still block by the previous loaded ndiswrapper module
[07:00] <macozz> So, there is a problem with alsa or is just me?
[07:00] <zhLilDoggi> rebooting once more..
[07:00] <nuked_omen> they have to test them thoroughly
[07:00] <dcordes> bioshater: no need to patch
[07:00] <nuked_omen> macozz: what is your problem?
[07:01] <bioshater> dcordes: good! madwifi or madwifi-ng?
[07:01] <dcordes> both
[07:01] <dcordes> btw do you know a repo for -ng?
[07:01] <macozz> The sound suddently stop to work today and I cannot deiscover why... all seems to be OK, but no sound....
[07:02] <bioshater> dcordes: i think dapper has madwifi-ng by default, though i am not sure (don't have ubuntu on my notebook yet)
[07:03] <nuked_omen> macozz: excute 'killall /dev/dsp' and try again
[07:03] <bioshater> dcordes: and if there is no repo, i'd rather build the kernel and modules myself
[07:04] <Nophiq> nuked_omen: why 'killall /dev/dsp', what does it do?
[07:04] <zhLilDoggi> okay, rebooted
[07:04] <nuked_omen> Nophiq: it kills any process that uses the sound daemon
[07:04] <dcordes> bioshater: i'm on my desktop currently because my notebook is at acer for repairs. but i have the notebooks's atheros card in here and dapper definetly did not install madwifi-ng
[07:04] <nuked_omen> Nophiq: so the sound card won't be busy
[07:04] <bioshater> dcordes: okay
[07:05] <Nophiq> nuked_omen: I didn't know this, thanks for the new
[07:05] <dcordes> but it is easy to install
[07:05] <nuked_omen> np
[07:05] <naranha> firefox2 packages anywhere?
[07:05] <nuked_omen> google them
[07:05] <dcordes> bioshater: you really should try ubuntu on your notebook.... you can do funny things with then
[07:05] <nuked_omen> i got mine from google
[07:05] <dcordes> *with madwifi and aircrack
[07:05] <boink> firefox2 wouldn't be in dapper
[07:05] <naranha> k
[07:06] <boink> and probably it won't be in edgy either
[07:06] <macozz> I get "no process killed"
[07:07] <rackerz> hey guys, i've installed edgy on my laptop but after updating my drives become read-only and started giving off errors
[07:07] <nuked_omen> i didn't like firefox 2
[07:07] <rackerz> but if i use edgy without updating it works fine
[07:07] <zhLilDoggi> bioshater - rebooted
[07:07] <nuked_omen> especially where the placed the close-tab button
[07:07] <bioshater> dcordes: i suspect my notebook is a littly old for ubuntu
[07:07] <nuked_omen> macozz: hmm..
[07:07] <bioshater> dcordes: even for xubuntu
[07:07] <nuked_omen> what did you do that broke it?
[07:07] <boink> from what year is your laptop?
[07:08] <rackerz> whos?
[07:08] <nuked_omen> or suspect it might have broke it
[07:08] <boink> perhaps you could user another WM on it rather than gnome
[07:08] <dcordes> bioshater's
[07:08] <dcordes> one
[07:09] <Shadowthrone> How can I check which jres and jdks I have on my machine and choose one?
[07:09] <dcordes> what chipset / cpu does it have?
[07:09] <nuked_omen> boink: what kind of solution is this? changing the WM because sound won't work?
[07:09] <bioshater> it's a pentium 3 800mhz with 256mb ram, but i can only use it on 400mhz, otherwise it becomes too hot
[07:09] <boink> no sound? well, that sux
[07:09] <dcordes> bioshater: it's fine for ubuntu i think
[07:09] <nuked_omen> for real b?
[07:10] <nuked_omen> bioshater: i suggest you use zenwalk
[07:10] <bioshater> dcordes: it runs slick with xfce3 and gtk1-based apps, i don't want to slow it down
[07:10] <zhLilDoggi> okay
[07:10] <dcordes> oh ok then
[07:10] <zhLilDoggi> ath0 is back up
[07:10] <bioshater> nuked_omen: i know zenwalk, could be an alternative
[07:11] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: and it works now?
[07:11] <zhLilDoggi> still no lights
[07:11] <okapi> hello, anyone here ever installed ubuntu on centrinos laptop?
[07:11] <dcordes> no lights?
[07:11] <zhLilDoggi> on the card, nope
[07:11] <dcordes> oh do you use a notebook?
[07:11] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: and are you sure the card has worked before on ubuntu 5.10?
[07:12] <zhLilDoggi> yes
[07:12] <zhLilDoggi> and I'm pretty sure it did
[07:12] <zhLilDoggi> when I used ndiswrapper
[07:12] <bioshater> zhLilDoggi: then maybe madwifi driver in 5.10 is just too old
[07:12] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > hi
[07:13] <{_-IcE-_}> anyone knows of a method how u could send mail through a php script using postfix ?
[07:13] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > hi jenda
[07:13] <bioshater> gotta go
[07:13] <dcordes> cya
[07:13] <RaD|Tz> #mo/j #gnusol
[07:14] <zhLilDoggi> so I'm pretty much boned
[07:14] <MrMaDSeN> hi
[07:14] <dcordes> doggy nope
[07:14] <MrMaDSeN> whos into xubuntu?
[07:14] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > guys i have a big problem
[07:14] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > i installed the new version of Kubuntu
[07:14] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > and
[07:14] <jenda> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : hello
[07:14] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > Now i have only a "prompt"view
[07:15] <dcordes> we will do this. first you will install the latest version of madwifi
[07:15] <gba> I am trying to install 6.06 but the installer goes into a endless loop of cd and hd access between the 5th and 6th step (the step where I should give him the partition). What is causing that "trouble"?
[07:15] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > how can i come back to Grafic version???
[07:15] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > please
[07:15] <zhLilDoggi> download the .deb version?
[07:15] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/madwifi/madwifi-0.9.2.tar.gz?download
[07:15] <dcordes> download and extract it
[07:16] <zhLilDoggi> kay, lettme find my usb drive
[07:16] <nuked_omen> what is a grafic version?
[07:16] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > grafic like "Windows" not with the commands
[07:16] <rackerz> hey guys, i've installed edgy on my laptop but after updating my drives become read-only and started giving off errors
[07:16] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > nuked_omen
[07:16] <rackerz> but if i use edgy without updating it works fine
[07:16] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: then you do this http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[07:17] <nuked_omen> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : that's called graphic
[07:17] <nuked_omen> or GUI
[07:17] <gba> the system is accessing the cdrom for minutes and he accesses the hd for minutes without progress in the install program (no new menu, no new window). Nothing.
[07:18] <Shadowthrone> How can I check which Java jres and jdks I have on my machine and choose one?
[07:19] <nuked_omen> i know nothing about java
[07:19] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > nuked_omen yes Gui!
[07:19] <MrMaDSeN> apt-cache search java.. gives me nothing :(
[07:19] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > how can i come back to Gui version?
[07:19] <zhLilDoggi> whoa...suppose its searching to my usb?
[07:19] <nuked_omen> MrMaDSeN: do apt-get update
[07:19] <nuked_omen> or check the repos
[07:19] <zhLilDoggi> I plugged in my usb drive and my signal thin shot up
[07:20] <zhLilDoggi> thing
[07:20] <MrMaDSeN> nuked_omen, did check repos
[07:20] <nuked_omen> hmm
[07:21] <gba> I am trying to install 6.06 but the installer goes into a endless loop of cd and hd access between the 5th and 6th step (the step where I should give him the partition). What is causing that "trouble"?
[07:21] <gba> the system is accessing the cdrom for minutes and he accesses the hd for minutes without progress in the install program (no new menu, no new window). Nothing.
[07:21] <Migu`> Hello
[07:22] <jcooke> gba, manually clear the drive completely then try?
[07:22] <mpsi> MrMaDSeN: update-alternatives?
[07:22] <Migu`> I nead some real help with unbuntu ... otherwide i will have to uninstall it...
[07:22] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > please!!I can't go on with Winzozz XP!
[07:22] <B-Minus> hello
[07:22] <B-Minus> i have a file in my init.d its called ?SVW??U?????v?????????V??$??$D$T????"????O??????$?$D?@C$t
[07:22] <B-Minus> what can i do with that
[07:22] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : whats your problem?
[07:22] <B-Minus> delete it ?
[07:22] <gba> jcooke: What do you mean? To remove all partitoins?
[07:22] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik
[07:22] <nuked_omen> Migu`: i'm shaking
[07:22] <sivik> Migu: whats the problem
[07:22] <jcooke> gba, yeah
[07:22] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes, whats the problem?
[07:22] <Fastly> what's the quickest way of reloading all filesystems based upon changed made to /etc/fstab?
[07:22] <gba> jcooke: No, I need the other partitions
[07:22] <Fastly> ... other than rebooting...
[07:23] <gba> jcooke: In this "layout" as they are now
[07:23] <nuked_omen> Fastly: restart?
[07:23] <Seta_Roja> hi guiris!
[07:23] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik the problem is that i can't use the "prompt"version but i would like to come back to GUI!
[07:23] <Seta_Roja> :)
[07:23] <Migu`> My problem is this , i  am having fiber optix, and i can only connect to the internet using "PPPoe" ... the problem is that i really got tired  for downloading 1000  "depedents packages" from packages.ubuntu.com  , is there any way , i can downloand all those packages?! i never saw a linux distribution in my life that is coming without a gcc compiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:23] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : did you install gnome/kde?
[07:23] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: what? :-)
[07:23] <Seta_Roja> any one had installed gpc?
[07:23] <dcordes> usb thing signal?
[07:23] <nuked_omen> Fastly: there is an option in the mount command, i just can't remember it
[07:23] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > i don't remember
[07:24] <Migu`> So
[07:24] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : run startx, that should take you back into gui
[07:24] <zhLilDoggi> when I plugged my usb drive in, the signal went from 0 to 83%
[07:24] <Migu`> can somebody help me? is there any way i can install a developer distribution?
[07:24] <sivik> at the promopt, run startx
[07:24] <zhLilDoggi> in wireless properties
[07:24] <nuked_omen> Migu`: actually in many distributions you have to install gcc manually
[07:24] <Migu`> lol
[07:24] <sivik> Migu`: what lang(s)?
[07:24] <Migu`> sivik :  any language
[07:24] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik, the problem is that every time i restart the computer it starts with the prompt
[07:24] <nuked_omen> Migu`: let ubuntu.com ship you the files
[07:24] <nuked_omen> they a dvd or something
[07:24] <nuked_omen> and it's free i heard
[07:25] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > i.e. the Ubuntu version
[07:25] <Migu`> nuked_omen : man ,  is there any distribution for gcc? or any package including C, C++ , gcc and any others fxxx depedents files?!
[07:25] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > with the commands
[07:25] <sivik> Migu`: most of the time you have to install those sepertaly, there really isn't called a developers distro
[07:25] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : you can fix that
[07:25] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : did startx work
[07:25] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik now i test
[07:25] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > wait 2 minutes
[07:25] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : ok
[07:25] <Migu`> sivik :  but is very hard , because i can't get my fuxxx ubuntu live... coz no ... pppoe on it
[07:25] <nuked_omen> Migu`: i installed gcc from Synaptics
[07:25] <hastesaver> Migu`, build-essential
[07:26] <Migu`> nuked_omen: I can't install from the net!
[07:26] <sivik> Migu`: and you can run VS stuff using mono/monodevelop
[07:26] <sivik> Migu`: why not?
[07:26] <Migu`> cozm, i can't connect my ubuntu to the internet, because it don't support pppoe
[07:26] <STrRedWolf> Can anyone connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com through apt-get or aptitude?
[07:26] <nuked_omen> yeah why not
[07:26] <sivik> STrRedWolf: the us repos never work, take the us out
[07:26] <Migu`> and because i installed 30  fxxx file like lib1, lib6, gcc,  blah blah blah kernel \headers
[07:26] <sivik> STrRedWolf: use uk or de or something along those lines
[07:26] <nuked_omen> Migu`: is that dial-up?
[07:26] <Migu`> and there are still missing files
[07:27] <nuked_omen> wtf is fxxx?
[07:27] <Migu`> for example i can't even run gcc file.cpp
[07:27] <hastesaver> Migu`, then how come you're asking for somewhere to download then?
[07:27] <Migu`> and is telling me "C++ compiler missing"
[07:27] <STrRedWolf> Lovely.  Time to cancel this out and adjust the files again...
[07:27] <Migu`> i really don't got the nervs to install 500 more files
[07:27] <sivik> Migu`: thats cause you probably didn't install the required files
[07:27] <sivik> Migu`: why, its not that big of a deal
[07:27] <Migu`> hastesaver: because I am running on a fucked Windows XP mAchine, you idiot!
[07:27] <sivik> Migu`: aka, you need the correct dependiances
[07:27] <TheGateKeeper> Migu`: you need g++
[07:27] <sivik> Migu`: then don't
[07:27] <sivik> Migu`: install it on its own partition
[07:28] <sivik> Migu`: are you running on as a VM
[07:28] <nuked_omen> Migu`: get fedora, that'll tell you something about running after 500 packages
[07:28] <hastesaver> Migu`, ok, so you have a fast connection on Windows, but not a fast one on Linux. Is that it?
[07:28] <Migu`> Man , is there any way i can downloand them all ?  i mean , a full gcc... that will work?coz is even very hard to find a fxxx gcc binari ...
[07:28] <STrRedWolf> I hope they fix it in Edgy Eft.  I just pulled the Alt CD of Dapper and that's in the default /etc/apt/sources.lst
[07:28] <sivik> Migu`: yes, sudo aptitude install buildessential
[07:28] <gba> What is the cause of the endless loop the installer goes into between the 5th and 6th step?
[07:28] <sivik> STrRedWolf: they aren't, you have to change them manually
[07:28] <nuked_omen> Migu`: how are you talking to us right now?
[07:28] <Migu`> nuked : yes
[07:28] <TheGateKeeper> Migu`: build-essential
[07:28] <sivik> STrRedWolf: they haven't fixed them yet in the beta version
[07:29] <Migu`> sivik : you mean to run this commabd ---------->  sudo aptitude install buildessential   ?
[07:29] <sivik> STrRedWolf: i'm running Edgy right now
[07:29] <sivik> Migu`: yes
[07:29] <STrRedWolf> Lovely.  I'll have to fix things on my $PARTIME job's servers.
[07:29] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik
[07:29] <Migu`> and it will work? i will be able to compile that rp-pppoe 3.6 ?;)
[07:29] <STrRedWolf> How's Edgy, sivik?
[07:29] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes
[07:29] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > it says "unable to connect to X server"
[07:29] <sivik> STrRedWolf: its pretty much the same as Dapper
[07:30] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > how can i do-?
[07:30] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : thats probably because the xorg.conf isn't set to work with your machine
[07:30] <Migu`> sivik : Man , won't i nead to be connected to the internet from the ubuntu while doing that ?
[07:30] <gba> Can someone help me with installing 6.06, please?
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> Migu`: the package name is build-essential
[07:30] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : what kind of video card?
[07:30] <hastesaver> Migu`, yes. And I hope whatever you installed so far was through the package management too (apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/whatever).
[07:30] <sivik> Migu`: yes
[07:30] <zhLilDoggi> dcordes - still around?
[07:30] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik it's a GeFOrce4
[07:30] <Migu`> hastesaver:  no it wasn't...
[07:30] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik but it worked before the update
[07:30] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : go into the xorg.conf and change the nv to vesa and then run startx again
[07:30] <dcordes> yep
[07:30] <Migu`> coz i can't connect to the Internet from ubutun
[07:31] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : i understand
[07:31] <sivik> Migu`: why not?
[07:31] <zhLilDoggi> its apparently finding the hardware
[07:31] <liwi> hi. under SYstem -> Quit i don`t have option to shut down the computer (but there are hibernation etc.). how to change it?
[07:31] <Migu`> sivik : coz ubuntu can't connect on PPPoe
[07:31] <sivik> Migu`: yes it does
[07:31] <zhLilDoggi> I unplugged it and plugged it back in
[07:31] <Migu`> sivik : how?
[07:31] <zhLilDoggi> its showing that its in...
[07:31] <bcnl> does anyone know of a apt repository for Dapper Drake that contains the latest versions of asterisk?  Specifically the 1.2.xx (currently 13) branch
[07:31] <gba> Can someone help me with installing 6.06, please?
[07:31] <sivik> !pppoe
[07:31] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:31] <Migu`> sivik : if you downloand that rp-pppoe and compile it!
[07:31] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: you installed the latest madwifi driver?
[07:31] <dcordes> as i told you
[07:31] <dcordes> to
[07:31] <ngirard> Hi guys
[07:31] <ngirard> I have a problem using digikam 0.8.2rc1 on Kubuntu Dapper: the "Image->send by mail" optiondoesn't show up..... has anyone ever experienced this problem ?
[07:31] <sivik> Migu`: check that url
[07:32] <zhLilDoggi> in the process...
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> gba: what's the problem?
[07:32] <dcordes> ok
[07:32] <sivik> Migu`: you could check wiki.ubuntu.com as well
[07:32] <dcordes> gba: on your gamebody advanced?
[07:32] <gba> TheGateKeeper: The installer goes into an endless loop between the 5th and the 6th step(the step where he wants a partition).
[07:33] <Gun_Smoke> Anyone Golfers here??  Looking for a score keeper app?
[07:33] <hastesaver> Migu`, generally, it is not a good idea to install anything by downloading and compiling. There should (almost always) be packages available for whatever you want :-)
[07:33] <TheGateKeeper> gba: is this a windows box?
[07:33] <gba> TheGateKeeper: He endlessly accesses the cd and the hd
[07:33] <sivik> Gun_Smoke: have you tried looking on google?
[07:33] <Migu`> sivi  : is this also working on ubuntu 5.0 ?
[07:33] <Migu`> :(
[07:33] <gba> TheGateKeeper: I booted from the 6.06 cd
[07:33] <sivik> Migu`: it should, you could try it
[07:33] <gba> TheGateKeeper: So, no it's not a windows machine
[07:33] <fdoving> can one create a file in a certain directory, that makes nautilus automatically show hidden files? in  KDE konqueror honours .directory and the ShowDotFiles= key, nautilus doesn't handle this, is there a similar thing for nautilus?
[07:34] <bcnl> does anyone know of a apt repository for Dapper Drake that contains the latest versions of asterisk?  Specifically the 1.2.xx (currently 13) branch
[07:34] <Migu`> man , I don't got PPPoe via ADSL , i even don't got a modem , i got pppOe via fiber optix, will this be a prolbme?!
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> gba: how is it presently partitioned?
[07:34] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik
[07:34] <sivik> Migu`: it doesn't matter
[07:34] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sorry
[07:34] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes
[07:34] <Migu`> so  i am connecting throw my network card, not via a modem and phone line
[07:34] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - where can i get tv_grab_dvb from in ubuntu?
[07:34] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > what i have to type to come into the config?
[07:34] <sivik> Migu`: do you get pppoe through dsl
[07:35] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : /etc/X11 sudo vi xorg.conf
[07:35] <orangefly> can anyone help with nfs....???....
[07:35] <Schizoid> I have a xubuntu install cd that passes an md5 check on my pc but fails on my laptop, what can I do to get around this?
[07:35] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : /etc/X11 -> sudo vi xorg.conf
[07:35] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: i hope it will work with the latest driver
[07:35] <gba> TheGateKeeper: There are 12 partitions (with some partitions as linux type and with ext3 formatted). On the 6th partition I want to install 6.06
[07:35] <dcordes> zhLilDoggi: i g2g now. but i'm sure somebody else will help you
[07:35] <Gun_Smoke> sivik:  Yes, I ran a search on google.com/linux and not much came up that wasn't just junk adds and what not.
[07:35] <sivik> Schizoid: did you transfer the file from your computer to your laptop or did you download it again
[07:35] <nuked_omen> Schizoid: just burn it and see
[07:35] <dcordes> people help <zhLilDoggi>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:35] <dcordes> laters
[07:35] <nuked_omen> cds ain't expensive
[07:35] <drcode> hi all
[07:36] <sivik> Schizoid: burn the cd on the desktop where it passes the test, and then use that cd to install it on the laptop
[07:36] <Schizoid> sivik: I burned the iso, and verified it before and after burning, but when I do the "check media" option when I boot with it on the laptop, it fails
[07:36] <Schizoid> and the installation fails
[07:36] <nuked_omen> sivik: good idea
[07:36] <drcode> any one know good cd catalog , I want to get list of files in my dvds
[07:36] <gba> TheGateKeeper: Editing the layout of the partitions is not an option because I have fully working installations on the other partitions
[07:36] <sivik> Schizoid: there is a bug in the check media in the Dapper install
[07:36] <piddy> how do i solve a Xorg API module mismatch
[07:36] <sivik> Schizoid: just install it without running the check
[07:36] <gba> TheGateKeeper: What can I do to avoid this endless loop
[07:37] <Schizoid> sivik: the install fails though!
[07:37] <Schizoid> The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1).
[07:37] <sivik> Schizoid: then you probably didn't burn it right
[07:37] <Schizoid> at the base system install point
[07:37] <nuked_omen> gba: you can use partitioning tools
[07:37] <sivik> Schizoid: go download the image from somewhere else and try it from there
[07:37] <Schizoid> cdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -driveropts=burnfree -speed=8 Stuff/xubuntu-6.10-beta-alternate-i386.iso
[07:37] <Fastly> can anyone here recommend a neat way of converting a partition from ntfs to ext3?
[07:37] <gba> nuked_omen: I don't need partition tools. The partiotions are not the problem
[07:37] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik sorry i have to enter in the folder "etc/x11"and then type "sudo vi..."?
[07:37] <ruvia99> ola quien quiere ablar conmigo
[07:37] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : yes
[07:37] <nuked_omen> ones that don't hurt other OSs
[07:37] <TheGateKeeper> gba: I assume the partition you want to put it on is over 4Gb, if it isn't then it needs to be, if you do a manual partition it will ask you where to put root, swap etc & it should install correctly
[07:38] <nuked_omen> gba: what is?
[07:38] <sivik> cd /etc/X11 and then sudo vi xorg.conf
[07:38] <Migu`> Heh
[07:38] <gba> TheGateKeeper: The partiotn is 7GB
[07:38] <Migu`> sivik :  i will nead to downloand the latest ubuntu ,
[07:38] <Migu`> https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/sect-internet.html#id2529902
[07:38] <hoze_> Anyone have any idea why I wouldn't get a GUI installer when booting the install CD?
[07:38] <sivik> Migu`: no you won't
[07:38] <Migu`> is not working for 5.*
[07:38] <gba> nuked_omen: The installer is giong to an endless loop. That is the problem
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> gba: you could also use the alternate cd which uses a text installer & should give you more control
[07:38] <Schizoid> sivik: if it passes the md5 test I dont see how it could be the iso
[07:38] <Migu`> sivik :  I did as here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/sect-internet.html#id2529902
[07:38] <sivik> hoze_: try turning off the apci when your booting the disk
[07:38] <sivik> Schizoid: it doesn't matter
[07:38] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik the folder x11 doesn't exist
[07:39] <ruvia99> nadie me abla?
[07:39] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : in the /etc folder?
[07:39] <sivik> !spanish
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > yes
[07:39] <sivik> then you don't have something install
[07:39] <liwi> under SYstem -> Quit i don`t have option to shut down the computer (but there are hibernation etc.). how to change it?
[07:39] <gba> TheGateKeeper: If I install from the alternate cd do I get the same installation as from the destop cd?
[07:39] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik in rhe etc folder i can come in
[07:39] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : your in ubuntu right
[07:39] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > yes
[07:39] <TheGateKeeper> gba: the end result will be the same
[07:39] <sivik> DeBiaN[SCRipT] : well, then you need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:40] <gba> TheGateKeeper: Okay, thanks
[07:40] <Migu`> sivik : what LTS stand for?
[07:40] <dsewnr_> Excuse me , could the videocard use agp fast write in UBUNTU ?
[07:40] <ianmacgregor> Migu`: Long Term Support
[07:40] <hantu> long term support
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> gba: the one you are using at the moment uses a gui, the other one a text installer
[07:40] <ianmacgregor> Migu`: 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server
[07:41] <Lightenix> ermm question: i did sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk and then i pressed i dont agree with the licence, now when i want to reinstall it is saying something like unsolved dependencies...
[07:41] <Lightenix> and that i should use apt-get -f install... but i heared that -f shouldnt be used
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> gba: I assume that you have also done the self-test on that CD to make sure it's OK?
[07:41] <ianmacgregor> Lightenix: The "-f" in that instance means "fix", and you can safely use it.
[07:41] <seraphim> when it says use -f, use -f
[07:41] <Migu`> Ok should i downloand alternate or desktop ? what is the diference?
[07:42] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik it's written that "xserver" is not fully installed or broken!
[07:42] <Ciaus> Migu`, get the alternate
[07:42] <ianmacgregor> Migu`: Alternate has a text based installer and no livecd, the desktop has a livecd and a gui installer
[07:42] <Lightenix> lol oki thanks
[07:42] <ianmacgregor> Migu`: I recomend Alternate CD
[07:42] <Migu`> why!?
[07:43] <ianmacgregor> Migu`: I have found the text-based installer to have fewer problems and it is quicker.
[07:43] <Migu`> k
[07:43] <dcordes> how can i test wether my gps usb device is working or not? it is shown in lsusb as a serial port...
[07:43] <Ciaus> Migu`, u can do online updates aftyerward.....
[07:43] <Jaak_> is there something that makes it possible to sync Evolution with google callendar?
[07:44] <DeBiaN[SCRipT] > sivik have you read?
[07:44] <Code-E> !ati > Code-E
[07:45] <hastesaver> Jaak_, top Google result: http://johnnyjacob.wordpress.com/2006/04/30/google-calendar-in-evolution/
[07:45] <Code-E> !?
[07:46] <piddy> I dont know if this is a driver problem/xorg or ubuntu I just installed the 9625 driver which works great but if i reboot the box xorg err says api mismatch with 9625 and 72**  in the kernal module... But if i reinstall the driver and start x it works fine again.... Can somone give me a pointer
[07:46] <Code-E> Xubuntu is very nice
[07:46] <Code-E> :)
[07:46] <DeZusa> I'm right now installing ubuntu on my laptop, and I'm really looking forward to trying it. I'm wondering if anyone could tell me about a few good programs for music and video playing, chatting on msn, using irc... anything else useful that I forgot?
[07:46] <sittisal> DeZusa, banshee or amarok for music
[07:47] <b08y> does anyone know the channel of vmware server?
[07:47] <sittisal> k3b or gnomebaker for burning
[07:47] <dougsko> DeZusa: irssi to irc
[07:47] <ianmacgregor> DeZusa: Movies - MPlayer, IRC - irssi, music - xmms
[07:47] <dougsko> vlc is an awesome movie player too
[07:47] <Ciaus> DeZusa, Gaim for IM'ing
[07:47] <sittisal> DeZusa, tomboy and f-spot for photos
[07:47] <CarinArr> hey, can anyone recommend a good wireless card for linux?
[07:47] <CarinArr> desktop
[07:47] <dougsko> no...irssi+bitlbee for IM'ing :)
[07:48] <ianmacgregor> DeZusa: If you need closed caption support in DVD's, try MPlayer or Xine
[07:48] <Ciaus> ./me melts dougsko 's keyboard
[07:48] <CarinArr> have a crappy belkin f5d7050 that i can't get working for the life of me
[07:48] <Xyphosura> I have the "open source radeon" drivers installed (at least i think i have), everytime i try to start a 3d app i get this error : drmCommandWrite: -22
[07:48] <Xyphosura> drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting).  I used this manual to use the radeon drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:48] <sittisal> DeZusa, easy ubuntu for easy codec and software installation
[07:49] <sittisal> and avahi-daemon for itunes music sharing
[07:50] <Xyphosura>  I have the "open source radeon" drivers installed (at least i think i have), everytime i try to start a 3d app i get this error : drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting).  I used this manual to use the radeon drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:50] <DeZusa> alright, is there a good program for Skype?
[07:50] <b08y> DeZusa: for skpye?
[07:51] <dougsko> ekiga
[07:51] <b08y> DeZusa: just use skype 4 linux
[07:51] <DeZusa> aah.. didn't know there was one :)
[07:51] <pike_> DeZusa: i used ekiga but thats not the skype network. its open
[07:51] <b08y> u can not use ekiga to connect to skype
[07:51] <DeZusa> alright, skype 4 linux it is then
[07:52] <sparkleytone> i upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken
[07:52] <b08y> => if u want to talk with ur skype friends u have to use skype, cause skype is closed
[07:52] <sparkleytone> can anyone help?
[07:52] <Killallhumans> Hi I'm having some trouble using TOVID... it encoded the files fine but I don't know how to make them into an ISO file that has the DVD directory structure... can someone help?
[07:53] <xYuo87> Would anyone recommend a good gigabit NIC?
[07:53] <dougsko> Killallhumans: you make the directory structure first, then make an ISO out of that
[07:53] <Killallhumans> how?
[07:53] <samuel> sup all
[07:53] <Jaak_> hastesaver, that's one step in right directions (evolution/gcal) but that read only...
[07:53] <samuel> is the ubuntu server edition free?
[07:53] <Killallhumans> yes
[07:54] <Jaak_> yes
[07:54] <dougsko> Killallhumans: i dont know, ive never used tovid
[07:54] <Killallhumans> aww ty though
[07:54] <calisee> does anyone have gnome/xgl running with an nvidia card? gnome-xgl-settings says my card is not found in the database even though it is definitely supported
[07:54] <sparkleytone> i upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken.  can anyone please point me in the right direction?  http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#2
[07:54] <Killallhumans> NVIDIA is wierd I can give you a good site to read though...
[07:54] <sivik> sparkleytone: try uninstalling it and reinstalling it
[07:54] <sparkleytone> sivik: did that, no dice
[07:54] <Killallhumans> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:55] <Samuli^> calisee, I have. And so do many others.
[07:55] <samuel> if i install the server edition can i use apt-get to get a GUI up and running? gnome is available?
[07:55] <sivik> sparkleytone: no dice?
[07:55] <sparkleytone> sivik: didn't fix it
[07:55] <sivik> samuel: yes
[07:55] <pike_> samuel: if youre new to linux it would be best to use ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu imo server is just a very basic desktop install
[07:55] <xYuo87> Do ppl feel it's safe to use the nvidia driver, wasn't it rooted?
[07:55] <calisee> Samuli^, any idea why a GeForce 6600gt would claim it isn't in the database under gnome-xgl-settings?
[07:55] <dougsko> xYuo87: theres a patch out now
[07:55] <sivik> calisee: cause xgl sucks, use the nvidia drivers you can get from the repos
[07:55] <zhLilDoggi> blah, forget this
[07:55] <boink> ubuntu is gnome install
[07:55] <Killallhumans> Does anyone here know how to make video DVDs?
[07:56] <zhLilDoggi> I'm reinstalling windows
[07:56] <xYuo87> Dougsko, I see.
[07:56] <boink> ok
[07:56] <sivik> zhLilDoggi: whats your problem?
[07:56] <boink> have phun with windows
[07:56] <CarinArr> !wireless
[07:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:56] <xYuo87> Surely someone would be able to recommend me a gigabit NIC. ;)
[07:56] <zhLilDoggi> wireless card being a tard
[07:56] <dougsko> xYuo87: plus, im pretty sure it was a local exploit, so its not TOO big of a deal if its your home computer, behing a firewall and nat
[07:56] <zhLilDoggi> and madwifi don't want to compile
[07:56] <sivik> zhLilDoggi: what card brand
[07:56] <CarinArr> heh zhLilDoggi.. snap
[07:56] <zhLilDoggi> belkin
[07:56] <sivik> zhLilDoggi: thats your problem
[07:57] <sivik> problem*
[07:57] <CarinArr> the usb memory stick idiocy?
[07:57] <DeZusa> conclusion: xmms, banshee or amarok for music
[07:57] <xYuo87> Yeah, may have been local.
[07:57] <hastesaver> Killallhumans, k3b should do it... ("Create video cd"....)
[07:57] <sparkleytone> anyone? :(
[07:57] <sivik> CarinArr: is it a usb disk?
[07:57] <samuel> pike_, im not new to linux by no means, just new to ubuntu, and wanted to try it out... are the package sets in server/desktop editions similar? same packages or are the ones in the server more rigorously tested is what i really want to know
[07:57] <CarinArr> er non memory stick obviously
[07:57] <DeZusa> irssi for irc
[07:57] <CarinArr> wifi stick i meant
[07:57] <CarinArr> ;)
[07:57] <sivik> CarinArr: not sure
[07:57] <boink> samuel: it's based on debian
[07:57] <sparkleytone> same package sets samuel
[07:57] <CarinArr> have a crappy belkin f5d7050 that i can't get working for the life of me
[07:57] <DeZusa> bitlbee or Gaim for IM
[07:57] <Killallhumans> Will that make the same directroy structure as a dvd??
[07:57] <sparkleytone> samuel: just different stuff is installed by default
[07:58] <DeZusa> and Mplayer, vlc or Xine for movies.
[07:58] <sivik> CarinArr: did you try searching the ubuntu forums?
[07:58] <samuel> sparkleytone, so same ubuntu, different package sets, thanks!
[07:58] <zhLilDoggi> sivik - my wireless cards not working...don't want to show any lights or attempt to connect...it shows the card though, because I see the properties show status "Error" when I unplug it
[07:58] <CarinArr> sivik, yeah, they all talk about the same problems i have but none fixes them
[07:58] <pike_> samuel: as far as i know its just a slightly different kernel and not all the bloat (openoffice etc)  i normally just apt-get xubuntu-desktop after a server install then proceed to trim the scripts in /etc/init.d/
[07:58] <zhLilDoggi> and go back to disconnected when I plug it back in
[07:58] <CarinArr> have the wrong version of the card by the looks of things
[07:58] <sivik> CarinArr: then there probably isn't a fix yet
[07:59] <sivik> CarinArr: then go buy a different card
[07:59] <CarinArr> i know, i'm sat trying to decide what other one to get instead
[07:59] <DeZusa> f-spot and tomboy. are they photo editors?
[07:59] <boink> Atheros chip sets work very well with ubuntu
[07:59] <samuel> pike_, thanks
[07:59] <boink> as well as  reallink stuff
[07:59] <zhLilDoggi> boink - not mine I guess :/
[07:59] <sivik> CarinArr: why don't you try looking on google for wireless devices that work in ubuntu
[07:59] <rambo3> ra
[08:00] <dsewnr_> Why can't I enable AGPFastWrite ?
[08:00] <Killallhumans> hastesaver: will video cd make the proper directory structure for a dual layer DVD?
[08:00] <dougsko> DeZusa: a good photo editor is an app called, the gimp
[08:00] <xYuo87> Mostly you'll find broken cards using google. Ppl having working cards are rather silent. ,)
[08:00] <aman> hi
[08:00] <samuel> pike_, xubuntu = xfce?
[08:00] <DeZusa> is the gimp comparable in standard to photoshop?
[08:00] <aman> does any one have a asus mobo with nvidia chipset
[08:00] <hastesaver> Killallhumans, video CD will make a video CD. If you want a video DVD, you should ask for a video DVD.
[08:00] <boink> Netgear WG311T is a good card for pci wireless. uses the atheros chip set
[08:01] <zhLilDoggi> mines a cardbus
[08:01] <aman> i have soundmax audio driver and am not able to configure it ..
[08:01] <boink> then the Netgear WG511T
[08:01] <dougsko> DeZusa: i think so, but some will say no
[08:01] <zhLilDoggi> I had the lights flashing when I use ndiswrapper
[08:01] <UNiX> sivik i'm in the conf
[08:01] <aman> so if sum1 can help pls do ..
[08:01] <boink> Belkin cards are horrible with open-source
[08:01] <UNiX> what i've to do now?
[08:01] <CarinArr> sivik, yeah that's what i'm doing, it just amused me that at the same time as i went !wireless, zhLilDoggi said he had problems with his belkin wifi card
[08:01] <garret> I am having issues with in Gnome with buttions having lines through them , but they go away when I swing my mouse pointer over them.  This is on two laptops with ATI cards.  Should I install the factory ATI drivers?  And if so, how do I do it with RPM files?  Thanks.
[08:01] <Killallhumans> hastesaver: it doesn't seem to have either of those otions.
[08:01] <DeZusa> I'll try it. Never fully understood photoshop anyway ;)
[08:01] <UNiX> sivik i'm in the "xorg conf"
[08:02] <hastesaver> Killallhumans, Click on File->New Project->New Video DVD project
[08:02] <zhLilDoggi> and the guides don't work
[08:02] <sparkleytone> i upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken.  can anyone please point me in the right direction?  http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#2
[08:02] <boink> broken? doesn't work anymore?
[08:02] <boink> you mean the sshd or the client?
[08:02] <Killallhumans> hastesaver: Thanks man... I found it... thank you very much...... can I still put a backdrop for the DVD menu here?
[08:03] <aman> hey , anyone know how to configure soundmax drivers
[08:03] <UNiX> sivik ???
[08:03] <hastesaver> Killallhumans, I don't know; I haven't tried it... check it out :-)
[08:03] <Killallhumans> thanks man.
[08:03] <sivik> UNiX: who are you?
[08:03] <zhLilDoggi> wow, I kinda wish someone can vnc into my laptop and fix this
[08:03] <sivik> UNiX: since you changed your name, i don't know what your problem was
[08:03] <aman> i am not able to config my spearks
[08:04] <aman> really facinf lot of probs
[08:04] <UNiX> yes sivik i was the one who had problems with the GUI
[08:04] <UNiX> do you remember the fact i cannot see the grafic version
[08:04] <sivik> did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <aman> plus how do i install xvid coded ?
[08:04] <garret> Has anyone had issue with 6.06 in Gnome having lines through the buttons that clear when the mouse focus is applied to them?
[08:04] <aman> when i play a vid in fullscreen mode
[08:05] <aman> it jerks
[08:05] <sivik> aman: have you tried looking in the repos for the dvd codecs
[08:05] <UNiX> wait sivik you told me before to come into "etc/X11" and to write "sudo vi xorg.conf"
[08:05] <bitsneaky> anyone have a fix for a wifi card that wont work: Linksys WMP54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter
[08:05] <aman> i am new to ubuntu rather linux
[08:05] <UNiX> and now i'm in that configuration
[08:05] <aman> i knw very little about repos and stuff ..
[08:06] <aman> so you ll have to tell me in a little detail
[08:06] <boink> aman: you need the right entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list for all of the codecs
[08:06] <aman> well what are the right entries
[08:06] <boink> default ubuntu doesn't come with those entries
[08:06] <sivik> UNiX: ok, do everything as default other than what device driver for you video driver, and choose vesa for that one and it should work
[08:06] <sivik> aman: probably the multiverse repos
[08:06] <hastesaver> !restricted > aman
[08:06] <boink> like if you need the w32codecs and libdvdcss?
[08:06] <aman> and i cant install multimedia codes via automatix2 cuz it says libxvidcore missing
[08:07] <boink> you need the win32codecs?
[08:07] <sivik> aman: did you search for this kind of stuff on google before you start asking us how to do it
[08:07] <aman> yes ..
[08:07] <boink> then you need to adjust your sources.list
[08:07] <aman> but i cant seem to make head or tail
[08:07] <hastesaver> aman, read the page ubotu sent you; it's explained in great detail
[08:07] <boink> from your /etc/apt/sources.list you can download/install the .debs
[08:08] <boink> man apt-get
[08:08] <sivik> or man aptitude
[08:08] <sivik> boink: aptitude is actually better
[08:08] <boink> ubuntu makes it a little difficult with the codecs and the such
[08:08] <klaas> hey, I'm running ubuntu 6.06 on an asus a8js and I have a sound problem. the soundcard works on startup but as soon as I hit the function keys for volume/... it stops working
[08:08] <boink> copyright issues :/
[08:08] <klaas> using latest alsa package
[08:08] <hastesaver> sivik, how? It just gives an ncurses interface to the same thing
[08:08] <boink> sivik: I prefer apt-get
[08:08] <sivik> boink: thats cool
[08:09] <zhLilDoggi> good lord belkin is shit.
[08:09] <zhLilDoggi> erm
[08:09] <boink> aptitude reminds me of that horror of horrors, yast2
[08:09] <UNiX> sivik i don't understand what i have to modify in this menu
[08:09] <sivik> hastesaver: are you the guy with the gui problem
[08:09] <base> try alsaconfig
[08:09] <sivik> UNiX: what do you mean this menu?
[08:09] <zhLilDoggi> excuse my french
[08:09] <boink> Belkin isn't bad, they just don't cooperate with open source :/
[08:09] <aman> alsa config ?
[08:09] <sivik> UNiX: what menu are you referring to?
[08:09] <boink> !language
[08:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:09] <UNiX> in this conf
[08:09] <UNiX> sivik what values i have to modify?
[08:10] <sivik> UNiX: the only one you need to modify is the driver to use for your video
[08:10] <aman> how do i run alsa config ?
[08:10] <zhLilDoggi> I'm just wondering why its not working
[08:10] <zhLilDoggi> at all
[08:10] <boink> it's not working due to the chipset
[08:11] <boink> Belkin uses chips which don't cooperate with open source projects
[08:11] <zhLilDoggi> atheos?
[08:11] <UNiX> sivik but my Video card is correctly configured.The problem is that after the update my Ubuntu version is 6.10
[08:11] <NeoThermic> That would be Broadcom :)
[08:11] <UNiX> but not GUI
[08:11] <boink> atheros is quite good with open source
[08:11] <sivik> UNiX: you have to reconfigure if after you upgrade
[08:11] <zhLilDoggi> thats why my card has
[08:11] <boink> and Belkin doesn't use Atheros chip sets
[08:11] <zhLilDoggi> what
[08:11] <jontec> hey. hey... how do I install a command prompt only version of *ubuntu?
[08:11] <sivik> UNiX: either that or you have to install the drivers again
[08:11] <zhLilDoggi> boink
[08:11] <sparkleytone> i upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my ssh is completely broken.  can anyone please point me in the right direction?  http://paste.lisp.org/display/28549#2
[08:11] <sivik> jontec: download alt cd and then choose install server when you load the disc
[08:11] <sparkleytone> this is really killing me
[08:11] <boink> look at the atheros website
[08:11] <jontec> okay
[08:11] <jontec> gracias.
[08:12] <MarcN> jontec: ubuntu-server, or just remove the X server package
[08:12] <NeoThermic> if you're stuck with a belkin, you can either use ndiswrapper, or there's a somewhat native driver around for the 43xx chipsets
[08:12] <zhLilDoggi> Belkin Wireless G Notebook Card F5D7010 ver. 5 does
[08:12] <pike_> aman: open a terminal and type apropos alsa   basically you can use the apropos command to search the help pages so apropos ftp would respond with the different ftp commands and a description
[08:12] <|rt|> NeoThermic: the 43xx driver stopped working for me with one of the kernel updates....don't remember which one
[08:12] <zhLilDoggi> it even says it on ndiswrapper's wiki
[08:12] <jontec> MarcN: with the alt. cd or after I alrady have *ubuntu installed?
[08:12] <|rt|> NeoThermic: i had to go back to the ndiswrapper to get it working again
[08:12] <NeoThermic> |rt|: good to know, unfortunate though.
[08:12] <NeoThermic> zhLilDoggi: lspci says?
[08:13] <boink> if the card uses an Atheros chip set, don't use the ndiswrapper then
[08:13] <|rt|> NeoThermic: I just updated that laptop to Edgy this weekend and tried the in kernel module again with no luck
[08:13] <NeoThermic> my F5D7011 uses a broadcom, so I would be shocked if it is Atheros
[08:13] <zhLilDoggi> yep, it even says it
[08:13] <|rt|> NeoThermic: ndiswrapper works pretty good though
[08:13] <MarcN> jontec: just remove xserver-xorg (or turn it off on startup)
[08:13] <NeoThermic> |rt|: yeah, but not kismet compatable :P
[08:13] <zhLilDoggi> Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communications
[08:13] <boink> google says broadcomm
[08:13] <NeoThermic> zhLilDoggi: that doesn't look like a wireless one
[08:14] <|rt|> NeoThermic: kismet?  what's that
[08:14] <NeoThermic> zhLilDoggi: pastebin the lspci?
[08:14] <zhLilDoggi> a version 5?
[08:14] <zhLilDoggi> lettme transfer it onto my usb disk
[08:14] <NeoThermic> |rt| think netstumbler, but rather than asking the wifi card what it has seen, it goes into promicious mode and records all packets it finds to work out what networks are around
[08:15] <copolac> hola
[08:15] <melvin> does anyone know how to create another session?
[08:15] <|rt|> NeoThermic: ah well as long as it works on my wireless network at home i'm happy :)
[08:15] <NeoThermic> heh
[08:15] <copolac> hola amigos
[08:15] <aman> thanks pike
[08:16] <Yaakov> aman: apropos is an alias for man -k (just for the record).
[08:16] <UNiX> guys please\can anyone give me a help?
[08:16] <Rookie_> !ask
[08:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:17] <copolac> chau
[08:17] <UNiX> it exists a command to launch Gui ?
[08:17] <Wheelybin> Lo there people. Can someone reccomend to me a good FTP server? By good I meanhas a gui and is easy to use. I want to do somelocal LAN stuff, so security isint a big concern
[08:17] <Rookie_> UNiX - startx ?
[08:17] <kraut> does anybody knows a good howto, to install dapper on a software-raid?
[08:17] <UNiX> Rookie_but it doesn't start with this command!
[08:17] <Annirak> Hi, I have a device that behaves as a volatile USB storage device.  Writes work fine, values change when the cache gets written, so sync will update everything.  Reads, however, are a problem.  The device is read once on startup, and I can see no way to get it re-read.  How can I either mount a device with no cacheing, or force a re-read of a device?
[08:17] <proof> does anybody know how to install stuff in ubuntu
[08:18] <UNiX> Rookie_ i updated the new edgy version
[08:18] <UNiX> and when i started the pc
[08:18] <pike_> Wheelybin: well pureadmin is a graphical frontend to pureftpd i think. never used it but pureftpd is a decent server
[08:18] <melvin> how do i create a new session
[08:18] <NeoThermic> hmm, which, uh, version is latest (not bleeding edge)?
[08:18] <UNiX> it's not in the graphic version
[08:18] <proof> can anybody teach me how to install limewire and other programs in ubuntu
[08:18] <UNiX> how can i do???
[08:18] <chuckyp> melvin, log in
[08:18] <UNiX> Rookie_
[08:18] <boink> limewire?
[08:19] <edgy> Hi, I formatted a partition as ext3 and mounted it on fstab as /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ext3    defaults         0       0 but I can't save to it unless I am root, should I add another option to fstab or what?
[08:19] <Wheelybin> thankyou pike! Proof: Use synaptic to download things, as for P2P I'd reccomend amule
[08:19] <boink> isn't that only for windows?
[08:19] <melvin> im loged in
[08:19] <chuckyp> NeoThermic, dapper is the current stable release.  Edgy is the next due out in a few days.
[08:19] <NeoThermic> ahh!
[08:19] <NeoThermic> hehe
[08:19] <Wheelybin> limewire is some propetary network that's neither as good as emule or bittorrent
[08:19] <chuckyp> melvin, well then you started a new session
[08:19] <Jhonny1009> hello DHCP is not working for me in the install version.. it worked in live and in windows.. now I have it set to static and it is working.. how can I get DHCP to work?
[08:19] <NeoThermic> I've already got dapper on a CD, heh
[08:20] <NeoThermic> chuckyp: "few days" as in during LWE?
[08:20] <zhLilDoggi> sorry for the wait time....give me one second
[08:20] <chuckyp> NeoThermic, not a problem if you want to upgrade to edgy when it comes out you'll be able to do so with update manager.
[08:20] <NeoThermic> oh, ace
[08:20] <melvin> i want to create a new session for xgl so if it does not work i can delete the session
[08:20] <St_MPA3b> Is there are any password managers/web form fillers for Linux (something like Roboform)
[08:20] <St_MPA3b> Is there are any password managers/web form fillers for Linux (something like Roboform)
[08:20] <St_MPA3b> forgot "?"...
[08:20] <birdfish> Is kubuntu the same thing as ubuntu (but with the kde window manager instead of gnome?
[08:20] <chuckyp> melvin, xgl discussion is in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:21] <birdfish> Or are they different?
[08:21] <chuckyp> St_MPA3b, well kde has kwallet
[08:21] <boink> birdfish: yes
[08:21] <St_MPA3b> i have gnome :[
[08:21] <MarcN> birdfish: it is more than just the window manager, but yest
[08:21] <boink> kubuntu is ubuntu built with kde
[08:21] <chuckyp> St_MPA3b, gnome's firefox can remember passwords
[08:22] <chuckyp> birdfish, yes
[08:22] <CarinArr> how complicated is it to fix xp messing up the bootloader if you install it AFTER ubuntu?
[08:22] <NeoThermic> chuckyp: and does Dapper support ReiserFS3?
[08:22] <pike_> CarinArr: very easy
[08:22] <birdfish> Okay, well maybe you guys could help me out then :)
[08:22] <St_MPA3b> chuckyp i know... but there is no auto-form fillers. Only password manager.
[08:22] <chuckyp> CarinArr, not that hard atleast I don't consider it that hard.  but you will need a live cd or something to access your linux install.
[08:22] <birdfish> I was able to use my wireless card last night, but when I booted the computer this morning, the machine no longer recognizes that there is a wireless card installed
[08:23] <pike_> CarinArr: long as you have a the ubuntu or knoppix livecd
[08:23] <chuckyp> St_MPA3b, dunno haven't really played with them that much i'm sure there are some.  Did you try searching in synaptic?
[08:23] <chuckyp> CarinArr, or the ubuntu live cd for that matter
[08:23] <chuckyp> pike_, ubuntu cd should work
[08:23] <St_MPA3b> chuckyp yup.... is there any chance to use Roboform @ emul?
[08:23] <proof> can anybody teach me how to install programs in ubuntu
[08:24] <jwhitlark> I need a server with raid and lvm; does anyone know if I should user the server image or the alternate image?
[08:24] <chuckyp> St_MPA3b, emul?
[08:24] <NeoThermic> zhLilDoggi: heh, pastebin.osuosl.org if need be
[08:24] <chuckyp> proof, !install
[08:24] <St_MPA3b> chuckyp, emulator
[08:24] <chuckyp> !install
[08:24] <zhLilDoggi> yeah, pastebin.com is too loaded
[08:24] <aman> i tried it
[08:24] <proof> how do i install i dont understand it
[08:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:24] <aman> however i cant configure my spearkes to 5.1
[08:24] <CarinArr> so it shouldn't mess things up too badly if i did the installations in the "wrong" order?
[08:24] <chuckyp> !synaptic > proof
[08:24] <ArrenLex> !tell proof about synaptic
[08:24] <CarinArr> i just remember people always recommending to do things other way around
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Aw, you beat me.
[08:25] <pike_> proof: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:25] <aman> i even changed the soundmode in alsamixer
[08:25] <chuckyp> St_MPA3b, hold up let me check something
[08:25] <zhLilDoggi> http://pastebin.osuosl.org/359
[08:26] <St_MPA3b> chuckyp: can u gove me big big big sources.list ^_^? I have no SIM o_O
[08:26] <NeoThermic> zhLilDoggi: odd. Your wifi isn't listed, that Atheros looks to be a wired device.
[08:26] <zhLilDoggi> shouldn't be
[08:26] <aman> how do configure my spearkes to 5.1 ??
[08:26] <zhLilDoggi> its listed as atheros in ndiswrapper wiki too
[08:26] <aman> i menat configure alsa
[08:26] <NeoThermic> hmm, intrseting
[08:27] <NeoThermic> then nab the atheros linux drivers and pray :)
[08:27] <jwhitlark> thank, the install link had the info I needed.
[08:27] <zhLilDoggi> where at?
[08:28] <neemz> howdy, i have a remote control as part of my freecom usb DVT, and low and behold its working automatically! how can I reassign what each button does though?
[08:28] <chuckyp> St_MPA3b, okay google toolbar has autofill options you may want to check that out.
[08:28] <chuckyp> !easysource > St_MPA3b
[08:28] <milk-> anyone know of an efficient home directory organization scheme?  I'm reworking mine and trying to look for inspiration.
[08:28] <neemz> since volume up and down alters the master sound, but my speakers run off the surround slider
[08:29] <NeoThermic> zhLilDoggi: no idea, I would google :)
[08:29] <JaZyWRK_> hello all, is here a spefic channel for xgl support?
[08:29] <jmitchj> Is there anyone with a lot of patience that could help me get my wireless working...I am new to both Ubuntu and Wireless...hence the lots of patience...
[08:29] <chuckyp> neemz, Is the device infrared
[08:29] <poningru> jman_: whatsup?
[08:29] <chuckyp> JaZyWRK_, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:30] <poningru> err
[08:30] <poningru> jmitchj: whatsup?
[08:30] <jmitchj> poningru: Can you help?
[08:30] <poningru> yeah dude... whats wrong
[08:30] <neemz> yes chuckyp
[08:31] <neemz> chuckyp:  it shows up as event3
[08:31] <milc> so
[08:31] <milc> anyone know of a good home directory structure?
[08:31] <jmitchj> poningru: well i have the blue light on, on my laptop and in Network settings it says my Wireless Connection is active as eth1...but
[08:32] <[bash] > I installed apache2 from synaptic but I can't run php script on it
[08:33] <axa-axa> Hi, how can I make "Alt-Gr" key, behave in the same way as "Alt" (the left one) in Terminal console?
[08:33] <chuckyp> neemz, is it using lirc to work?
[08:33] <X-Hacker> dunno
[08:33] <orangefly> how do you see your ip address on ubuntu server....???....
[08:33] <poningru> jmitchj: ok
[08:33] <neemz> chuckyp: nope I don't even have that installed
[08:33] <zhLilDoggi> Card: Belkin F5D7010 54g (802.11g and 802.11b capable) 32-bit CardBus wireless card (Rev 5000)
[08:33] <zhLilDoggi> Chipset: AR5211 (Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5211)
[08:33] <poningru> jmitchj: go into a terminal
[08:33] <St_MPA3b> ehm... where can i get vector icons?
[08:34] <neemz> chuckyp: it seems to be sending standard keyboard events, like if I press 1 now it will type 1 into the chatbox
[08:34] <jmitchj> poningru: When I give this command...sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd, it says no suitable AP found
[08:34] <poningru> jmitchj: application->accessories->terminal
[08:34] <poningru> oh
[08:34] <chuckyp> neemz, well editing the .lircrc in your home directory you can change which buttons do what.
[08:34] <poningru> jmitchj: we have to make sure your card is wpa_supplicant compliant
[08:34] <jmitchj> poningru: I know my wireless is setup as WPA
[08:34] <Rookie_> [bash]  - you have to eneble it
[08:34] <poningru> whats the chipset?
[08:35] <neemz> thanks chuckyp i'll take a look at lirc see if I can make it override the default
[08:35] <[bash] > Rookie: how?
[08:35] <jmitchj> poningru: it works in Windows
[08:35] <chuckyp> neemz, you should be able to edit that file and make buttons do what ever you want for your user.
[08:35] <orangefly> what is the command line for ip addresses....???....
[08:35] <Rookie_> look in /etc/apache2 and you see
[08:35] <axa-axa> Can someone plese tell me how can I make "Alt-Gr" key, behave in the same way as "Alt" (the left one) in Terminal console?
[08:35] <tuskernini> ifconfig
[08:35] <chuckyp> orangefly, ifconfig
[08:35] <Rookie_> mods-available/ mods-enabled/
[08:35] <zhLilDoggi> you use "make install" to install madwifi right?
[08:35] <orangefly> ty....
[08:36] <jmitchj> poningru: what command do i give so you can get the chipset info your looking for?
[08:36] <poningru> jmitchj: right... but we need to figure out if your chipset works with the wpa_supplicant program... some chipsets wont work with it
[08:36] <poningru> jmitchj: lspci
[08:36] <poningru> find the wireless card
[08:36] <poningru> unless you have it plugged into usb
[08:36] <poningru> then its lsusb
[08:36] <jmitchj> poningru: 0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[08:36] <Celt> I would like to know what the default root password is, when someone gets time for me.  No rush.
[08:36] <milc> anyone know of a good home directory structure? I'm reworking mine and looking for inspiration
[08:36] <Wheelybin> Well, I did all the things pure admin asked me to. Made a new group called ftpgroup, checked to make sure my internal ip was ending in .3 Now I try to access it on firefox from my windows box and it's forever loading the page! Is that a limitation of firefox? I havent accesed any ftp sites from it so I do not know
[08:37] <poningru> jmitchj: hold on let me check that
[08:37] <Rookie_> Celt - sudo, root pwd is the userpwd
[08:37] <chuckyp> milc, what do you mean?
[08:37] <milc> Celt, there is no root password
[08:37] <milc> chuckyp, as in, a general way to organize all your files under your home directory
[08:37] <fluvvell> Celt, the procedure is     sudo -i
[08:38] <pike_> milc: just append a dot to the beginning of everything. very clean :)
[08:38] <Wheelybin> And the log file shows two connection attempts. One just now, one from five minutesago
[08:38] <[bash] > Rookie: I have php5 in mods-available
[08:38] <milc> pike_, lol, nice :)
[08:38] <chuckyp> milc, well I have like ~/Downloads  ~/Documents  ~/Scripts ~/Source  ~/Music  kind of like that.
[08:38] <jmitchj> poningru: I'm not real sure how to setup all these AP and SSId's and ESSID's...etc....so i could have that all wrong
[08:38] <Rookie_> [bash]  - yea, but you have it enable ?
[08:38] <poningru> jmitchj: check under your networking tool
[08:39] <Celt> ok.
[08:39] <jmitchj> poningru: check what?
[08:39] <milc> chuckyp, mmkay, I had something like that but found myself breaking out of it too quickly, thus meaning it isn't the one for me, I need something more natural for me.  But thanks :)
[08:39] <[bash] > Rookie: Sorry I am new to linux you have to bear with me. How can I enable it?
[08:39] <chuckyp> milc, well just create whatever feels natural there is no per se proper way to do it.  Its your home folder.
[08:39] <Studiosus> Hi! Is there anybody who using sim (icq client) on Dapper (6.06)?
[08:39] <jcooke> jmitchj, what is it you're trying to do again?
[08:39] <[-NoX-] > !seen Celeste
[08:39] <ubotu> Celeste is on IRC right now!
[08:39] <Celt> fluvl: I am getting a pwd request when trying to view updates.
[08:40] <milc> chuckyp, oh, I know, I'm just looking for inspiration, like maybe someone has considered something I haven't.
[08:40] <zero-1> how can i prevent the PCMCIA service to start at boot
[08:40] <Rookie_> [bash]  - make a symlink to it from availeble - to enable
[08:40] <poningru> jmitchj: well wpa should work
[08:40] <lukas__> with which program do you rip your music cds?
[08:40] <jmitchj> poningru: so what should i look for under Wireless settings?
[08:40] <ianmacgregor> lukas__: I use grip for ripping and esaytag for editing tags
[08:41] <ianmacgregor> *easytag
[08:41] <jmitchj> poningru: ESSID is what?
[08:41] <fluvvell> Celt, its your own password.  You are part of the admin group if you are the only user, and therefore have admin privileges
[08:41] <chuckyp> milc, perhaps check for a LUG in your area linux users group  ?
[08:41] <jmitchj> poningru: is it the same as my SSID?
[08:41] <chuckyp> milc, they usually hold local meetings things of that nature.
[08:41] <poningru> jmitchj: yes
[08:41] <garret> Anyone having issues with ATI cards in laptops shoing lines trough buttons in GNOME?
[08:41] <Celt> fluvvell: ok, thanks let me try something and I'll be right back.
[08:41] <poningru> jmitchj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-494fd4e0aada56fc459f20fa1ac6df1afcc73b12
[08:41] <fluvvell> Celt, ok
[08:41] <lukas__> thx ianmacgregor
[08:41] <Silverwizard> Hey, I am having strange issues with XGL installation. I am running the latest Dapper, with the normal repositories. However it says I need CSM (compiz settings manager) in order to install the plugins
[08:42] <Silverwizard> And the package I have for it wont install without the plugins
[08:42] <chuckyp> Silverwizard, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[08:42] <Silverwizard> Ah
[08:42] <Silverwizard> thanks
[08:42] <chuckyp> np
[08:42] <milc> chuckyp, yeah, maybe
[08:42] <jcooke> jmitchj, are you on an HP Pavilion?
[08:42] <jmitchj> poningru: so that's a long list of random characters according to my supplier...
[08:42] <Silverwizard> Didn't know it existed
[08:42] <jmitchj> jcooke: on Compaq
[08:43] <jcooke> jmitchj, I was only able to get that card working fully with ndiswrapper, especially on a 64 bit machine
[08:43] <jmitchj> jcooke: that's what i'm using
[08:43] <CarinArr> !wireless
[08:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:43] <jcooke> jmitchj, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" does that command give you any results?
[08:44] <jmitchj> jcooke; no scan results
[08:44] <[bash] > Rookie: I just dunno how to create a symlink :$
[08:45] <jcooke> jmitchj, then the card probably isn't functioning fully
[08:45] <Rookie_> ok - ln -s
[08:45] <quilzo> I want to change the ownership of a directory (and subdirectories), I tried chown -R quilzo:quilzo [path-to-folder]   is the group wrong or is there something I should know?
[08:45] <jcooke> jmitchj, what driver did you use?
[08:45] <poningru> jmitchj: did you install the firmware?
[08:45] <poningru> jmitchj: did you just use the driver that came with ubuntu?
[08:46] <jmitchj> jcooke: i'm really new to this...but i went thru this with someone on Friday and I thought we had the drivers and stuff done
[08:46] <chuckyp> quilzo, that should be working.
[08:46] <jcooke> jmitchj, there's a ton of diff drivers, it took me trying about 10 diff ones before I found the on that worked
[08:46] <quilzo> chuckyp: it isn't :(
[08:46] <quilzo> it even shows all the files...
[08:46] <chuckyp> quilzo, you may need to use sudo
[08:46] <quilzo> off course
[08:46] <jcooke> jmitchj, you probably want bcom802x64, in the inf file the version is DriverVer=02/11/2005, 3.100.64.0
[08:46] <quilzo> the owner is root
[08:46] <milc> so, anyone else know of a good home directory structure? I'm reworking mine and looking for inspiration
[08:47] <jmitchj> jcooke: where do i get it?
[08:47] <chuckyp> quilzo, sudo chown -R quilzo:quilzo path
[08:47] <quilzo> I know
[08:47] <jmitchj> jcooke: and how do i install it>?
[08:47] <sentinel> Hi. My mouse seems to be slowed down in some way: When I click it takes about 0.1 seconds before the click is in effect, so f.eks. when I'm working and clicking the border of a window to drag it, it doensn't stick. Other than that the mouse works perfectly, it's just annoying...
[08:47] <quilzo> I'll try it again
[08:47] <chuckyp> sentinel, what kind of mouse?
[08:47] <jcooke> jmitchj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[08:48] <quilzo> chuckyp: oh, omg, I forgot to tell the (probably most important) detail, I mounted a partition to that folder, if it makes any difference
[08:48] <MarcN> sentinel: busy system?
[08:48] <chuckyp> quilzo, well soon as you mount a partition there the owner will change.
[08:48] <jcooke> jmitchj, after you get the right drivers and extract them, "ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5" then "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf" (using the new .inf file)
[08:48] <chuckyp> quilzo, what are you trying to do just give write access to users for that mount?
[08:48] <Studiosus> Hi! Is there anybody who using sim (icq client) on Dapper (6.06)? I having problem with it, my version is 0.9.3-1.1ubuntu3
[08:49] <quilzo> no, read access
[08:49] <jcooke> the -e line will remove the old one(or should)
[08:49] <chuckyp> quilzo, well you should be able to do that with fstab.
[08:49] <quilzo> it's an ntfs filesystem, so writing isn't want I want :p
[08:49] <chuckyp> !mount > quilzo
[08:49] <chuckyp> quilzo, well it should be mounted read only for all users to see.
[08:49] <chuckyp> !ntfs > quilzo
[08:50] <chuckyp> quilzo, check out the info from ubotu perhaps your fstab is not right.
[08:50] <proof> can someone teach me how to install things with synaptics i dont understand it very well
[08:50] <Celt> fluvvell: I must have done something incorrectly at the install because I cannot log in using my username and password.  I actually have to login using username: ubuntu password ubuntu.
[08:50] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to run a program with other language for once? I have dutch inkscape menus now, but i want english.
[08:50] <pup> hi, is there a package i need to get that will set up the QTDIR environment variable for QT development?
[08:50] <chuckyp> proof, you search for what you want to install and click the check box apply the changes
[08:50] <chuckyp> proof, you need to read the desktop guide
[08:50] <quilzo> chuckyp: could be, don't know what fstab is.. new to linux :)
[08:50] <knoppix> i need help getting sweex 100K webcam to work
[08:50] <Studiosus> KenSentMe: type in terminal LC_ALL=C inkscape &
[08:51] <chuckyp> proof, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:51] <knoppix>  modprobe usbcore modprobe sn9c102 doesnt  work
[08:51] <chuckyp> quilzo, did you get the message from ubotu?
[08:51] <chuckyp> !ntfs
[08:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:51] <quilzo> chuckyp: yes
[08:51] <chuckyp> quilzo, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[08:51] <chuckyp> quilzo, if you follow that guide it goes into detail on how to set it up.
[08:51] <quilzo> wouldn't it be just easier to copy the files, while logged in as root and then changing the ownership ?
[08:52] <KenSentMe> Studiosus: thanks
[08:52] <quilzo> which I would do if I knew the copy-command -_-"
[08:52] <fluvvell> Celt, you can create yourself a new username using the users tool under system->administration
[08:52] <chuckyp> quilzo, no if you set it up properly all users will be able to read from your ntfs drive.
[08:52] <chuckyp> quilzo, cp is the copy command
[08:53] <chuckyp> quilzo, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:53] <quilzo> chuckyp: thanks :)
[08:53] <silox> ive installed Americas Army but I have 2 soundcards and i want it to play the sounds on my second soundcard how can ichange that or how can i disable the other soundcard completely? I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop..
[08:53] <chuckyp> silox, alsamixer   ?
[08:53] <Studiosus> So, aren't there anyone who uses sim? :)
[08:53] <chuckyp> Studiosus, most use gaim
[08:53] <jmitchj> jcooke: This is starting all the way back at ndiswrapper installation
[08:53] <silox> chuckyp: ive changed that its standard on teh system but americas army plays it on the other card anyway
[08:54] <Celt> fluvvell:  OK, thank you very much.  I just thought it strange.  I have used RH, Slack, Fedora, and Debian but this is my first time with ubuntu.  In addition I installed it on a virtual appliance so I am thinking there will be a lot of work-arounds for me.
[08:54] <chuckyp> silox, hrm... why do you have two sound cards again?
[08:54] <MtJB> does esd run by default on ubuntu?
[08:54] <Studiosus> i need anyone to have any idea if my problem with sim is just local or it's shared by others
[08:54] <myllymaa> hey, easy question (i hope), how i remove xubuntu and install ubuntu :)
[08:54] <Celt> fluvvell: thanks again though for the help.
[08:54] <myllymaa> i mean gnome
[08:54] <chuckyp> myllymaa, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <jcooke> jmitchj, don't start at the beginning, you just need to remove the driver ndiswrapper is using and put the new one
[08:54] <fluvvell> Celt, its not just that you still have the disk in the drive is it?
[08:54] <chuckyp> myllymaa, you can sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <piddy> can anyone tell me what a NVRM: RM/client version mismatch!! is
[08:54] <jcooke> jmitchj, I just linked there because there's a link to all the different drivers
[08:55] <myllymaa> kk, thats what i tought
[08:55] <snottlebocket> hey guys, can i bug someone in pm to help me install ubuntu, i'm a bit stuck on the partition bit
[08:55] <myllymaa> ty
[08:55] <silox> chuckyp: because the 3,5 mm plug is broken on that (the integrated soundcard) so I run everything on a USB card...
[08:55] <Celt> fluvell: no, i took it out.
[08:55] <chuckyp> silox, hrm... well you could try disabling the integrated card in the bios.  as far as switching which one is outputing with both enabled I haven't a clue.
[08:55] <chuckyp> snottlebocket, ask
[08:56] <chuckyp> snottlebocket, what are you stuck on?
[08:56] <Peggerr> I am running ubuntu on sparc and it is constantly freezing up on my
[08:56] <snottlebocket> well, i have 3 partitions, one of which has windows on it, the other ones are reserved for ubuntu and one for storage
[08:56] <chuckyp> snottlebocket, k
[08:56] <snottlebocket> the installer is asking me to divvy up the partitions, something about a root and a swap disk
[08:56] <jmitchj> jcooke: after i installed the driver, it came back forcing parameter IBSSGMode from 0 to 2
[08:56] <silox> chuckyp, hmm i dont think I can disable the sound in the bios but will give it a try thx brb
[08:56] <chuckyp> silox, k  u should be able to if its integrated.
[08:56] <tnnc> is there an ubuntu channel just for video issues
[08:57] <myllymaa> chuckyp: can i remove xubuntu whill using it? then reboot using ubuntu?
[08:57] <snottlebocket> i'm not sure what the swap is for, anyway it says that everything else will have it's data destroyed and then it stops on the install saying something is wrong with the swap partition
[08:57] <myllymaa> *using=to
[08:57] <silox> chuckyp okey i will try
[08:57] <chuckyp> snottlebocket, You basically need freespace availible to point the ubuntu install at.
[08:57] <jmitchj> jcooke: so now what?
[08:57] <chuckyp> snottlebocket, swap is used if memory runs out.
[08:57] <jmitchj> jcooke: scan again?...reboot?
[08:57] <jcooke> jmitch reboot probably
[08:57] <jmitchj> ok
[08:57] <snottlebocket> yeah, i got one partition with windows and 2 empty ones, but i don't quite understand what it's asking me to do with my empty partitions or how to install it without formatting the windows partition
[08:58] <chuckyp> myllymaa, dunno I doubt it though.  You could just install ubuntu-desktop while using xubuntu.  Then when you reboot select gnome fromt he session list on login.   Then remove xubunut-desktop
[08:58] <jmitchj> jcooke: is there a way to reboot...witcout restarting whole system?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> swap partition - is used for ram swalling in and out.
[08:58] <Celt> fluvvell: interesting.  I must have really messed up cause its not showing up in the 'users and groups' areas.  Thats cocol I can fix it.  Thank you sir.
[08:58] <Dr_willis> oops swapping :)
[08:58] <pike_> snottlebocket: it will want to create a small like 256 to 512mb swap partition think of it as a pagefile in windows
[08:58] <jcooke> jmitchj, not that I'm aware of that will for sure enforce these changes ;/
[08:58] <MtJB> i suppose if esd does run by default, i could find it by grepping in init.d
[08:58] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,  by 'empty' you mean its like D: but nothing in it?
[08:58] <snottlebocket> empty meaning newly formatted partition
[08:59] <fluvvell> Celt, np
[08:59] <jmitchj> jcooke: be back in a bit...nothing else i need to check right now?
[08:59] <Infamy> is this -> http://whocares.de/2006/07/07/ubuntu-and-the-compaq-smart-array-controller-cpqarrayko/ going to be fixed at one point?
[08:59] <snottlebocket> i just formatted the whole pc and divvied up the hd into 3 partitions, one i put windows on, the other i'm trying to put ubuntu on
[08:59] <PSUSI> how do X applications resolve color names like "black" is #000000?  since upgrading to dapper a number of my X apps are broken because they can't resolve the names
[08:59] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,  what formattted it? windows?
[08:59] <jcooke> jmitchj, you have the alias in your /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper file right?
[08:59] <snottlebocket> yeah i used windows to format them
[08:59] <jmitchj> jcooke: it is set to eth1
[08:59] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,  thats your problem then.
[09:00] <jcooke> k
[09:00] <LjL> PSUSI: http://koala.ilog.fr/xpm-talk-hypermail/0736.html
[09:00] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,   Linux needs to partition/format them.  so they will be linux partitions. not windows ones.
[09:00] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,  linux is its own OS. :P it dont need windows partitions.
[09:00] <snottlebocket> allright, can i do that with the install tool?
[09:00] <snottlebocket> just check the format box
[09:00] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,  you using the live cd? or the ALternative installer?
[09:01] <snottlebocket> live cd
[09:01] <proof> can someone help me install programs and stuff on ubuntu i dont understand synaptics very much
[09:01] <PSUSI> LjL: thanks
[09:01] <Dr_willis> snottlebocket,  you got them designated as windows partitons.. you should delete the partitions using gparted  , then let the installer remake/use the UNALLOCATED drive space.
[09:01] <pike_> proof: are you a bot?
[09:02] <pike_> proof: :P
[09:02] <proof> no im not a bot
[09:02] <snottlebocket> allright, let me go find gparted
[09:02] <jcooke> jmitchj, nothing else I can think of offhand
[09:02] <pike_> proof: any specific questions?
[09:02] <LjL> !packages > proof
[09:02] <proof> like how do you put a package into synaptics and stuff
[09:02] <Infamy> no one else running a compaq smart array controler with ubuntu?
[09:03] <pike_> proof: are you talking about installing a package or creating one?
[09:03] <proof> im trying to install limewire on ubuntu but i dont know how to get the package onto synaptics
[09:03] <LjL> proof: you don't "put" a package into synaptic. synaptic simply takes packages from things called "repositories". you have alredy a repository called "main" enabled. you can add others (universe, and multiverse)
[09:03] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[09:03] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:03] <o_O> hi... I just updated to edgy and my audio keeps skipping now every second... anyone have any idea what it might be?
[09:03] <LjL> proof: limewire is not packaged, which means you won't find it in Synaptic. i suggest you try alternative software
[09:04] <pike_> proof: as an alternative look for frostwire it might be in synaptic already
[09:04] <proof> what would be an alternative software
[09:04] <CosmoDad> o_O: you might need to use a different sampling rate, like 44100 instead of 48000
[09:04] <ianmacgregor> !frostwire
[09:04] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:04] <snottlebocket> i see a qTparted partioning tool but not gparted?
[09:05] <LjL> proof: frostwire is not in the repositories either, but at least there is a third-party package available that should work. or just search for "gnutella" in synaptic, and you'll find a couple of packages that connect to the Gnutella network
[09:05] <LjL> snottlebocket: where? there are both. and both are in main i think
[09:05] <o_O> CosmoDad, how do I change it?
[09:05] <CosmoDad> o_O: depends on the application I'd say... in mplayer, you use -af
[09:06] <pike_> proof: amule is a pretty cool app that will by in syntaptic and you dont need to install java for it or anything
[09:06] <snottlebocket> i was looking with add/remove, i'm really very very new at using linux/ubuntu
[09:06] <CosmoDad> o_O: try if it helps with playing movies; if it does, you need to find a way to change it overall
[09:06] <LjL> pike_: it's not the same network however
[09:06] <snottlebocket> gparted is gnome partition editor?
[09:06] <proof> i want flashplayer also so i can watch movies and stuff online
[09:06] <LjL> !flash > proof
[09:06] <o_O> it does it even on the test sound from gstreamer-properties
[09:06] <liwi> hi. which java do you recommend for old computers?
[09:07] <LjL> none?
[09:07] <pike_> proof: best thing is to goto wiki.ubuntu.com and search for whatever you need
[09:07] <o_O> yeah, that doesn't help for playing movies
[09:07] <liwi> LjL - i need to use it
[09:08] <liwi> so which one?
[09:08] <snottlebocket> what type of filesystem should i pick?
[09:08] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm I just got myself a 64-bit processor, now, how should I do to update my system to be a 64-bit system?
[09:08] <pike_> snottlebocket: most people use ext3. it would be least problematic
[09:08] <LjL> liwi: sablevm is probably the lightest available in the repositories
[09:08] <Captain_Redbeard> I mean let's say I want a package like wine to be 64-bit application... can I just recompile it? or do I need a new set of binutils GCC and so forth?
[09:09] <proof> i tried searching there but i still dont understand
[09:09] <LjL> proof, for flash, look at the restrictedformats page i had the bot send you
[09:09] <proof> i usually understand something when someone says it step by step or types it step by step
[09:09] <Rick-uk> hi - can anyone help me - I want to listen to BBC radio and also watch their video clips, but I can't get the firefox plugins for realplayer etc towork.  I am running edubuntu - latest version I think(nrew to this)
[09:09] <o_O> so does anyone have any idea why my sound keeps skipping?
[09:09] <quad3datwork2> your computer does not like you
[09:10] <piddy> can anyone tell me how to remove the legacy nvidia driver
[09:10] <snottlebocket> the swap partition only needed to be really small, like 500mb to a gig?
[09:10] <CosmoDad> o_O: did neither 44100 nor 48000 mplayer setting help?
[09:10] <proof> what bot did u send to me
[09:10] <LjL> proof, Ubotu. you have (a few) private messages from it.
[09:10] <CosmoDad> snottlebocket: yeah. you'll be fine with 1G
[09:10] <o_O> CosmoDad, nope
[09:10] <CosmoDad> o_O: :/
[09:11] <piddy> can anyone tell me how to remove the legacy nvidia driver
[09:11] <LjL> proof: anyway. first thing, enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. either follow these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories   or if you really don't understand them, post your /etc/apt/sources.list file into the pastebin, and i'll add them for you
[09:11] <pike_> piddy: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[09:12] <o_O> CosmoDad, it even skips when I hit Test in gstreamer-properties so I think it must be some card-level setting wrong, or kernel module or something
[09:12] <Compy> On the latest ubuntu desktop we are attempting to install a driver for an onboard nic and it seems that desktop doesnt have the "make" command, whats the most efficient way to install the make package to compile the nic driver (obviously we cant apt-get)
[09:12] <ianmacgregor> Compy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:13] <Captain_Redbeard> Is it possible to upgrade a 32-bit system to a 64-bit just by changing the reps and do a dist-upgrade? or do I need to freshly install everything?
[09:13] <CosmoDad> o_O: I used to suffer from audio skipping until I switched the sampling rate, but it only affected with me
[09:13] <kmaynard> ianmacgregor, he doesnt have a net connection
[09:13] <Juhaz> Compy, you can set the cdrom as apt repo
[09:13] <snottlebocket> allrighty, time to try the install again
[09:13] <CosmoDad> o_O: affected movies..
[09:13] <piddy> how do i remove the legacy nvidia kernel mod
[09:13] <ianmacgregor> kmaynard: :(
[09:13] <I_love_beer> hey can I copy that floppy?
[09:13] <Compy> Juhaz: I actually thought it was by default (at least on server it was), ill make sure we check that
[09:13] <o_O> CosmoDad, hmm, mine is affecting everything... it was fine before I updated from dapper :(
[09:14] <CosmoDad> o_O: did you check the forums on this?
[09:14] <silox> how can i disable a sound card in linux totally?
[09:14] <kmaynard> Compy, try apt-get install -s build-essential  that will give you a list of what packages you'll need. download them from a net-facing PC and install
[09:14] <o_O> CosmoDad, didn't see anything there :(
[09:14] <I_love_beer> on linux
[09:14] <I_love_beer> can I copy that floppy?
[09:14] <Rick-uk> Hi - can anyone tell me how to get BBC radio / video woirking with Firefox - I'm using edubuntu
[09:15] <zhLilDoggi> oh well...I give up on wireless
[09:15] <Rick-uk> I *miss* my Radio 4:-[
[09:15] <kmaynard> Rick-uk, what file format they use?
[09:15] <piddy> pike_: it says its not there....
[09:16] <kmaynard> ugg, realplayer
[09:16] <silox> How can I disable a soundcard completely in Ubuntu Linux? I cant disable it in BIOS... I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop
[09:16] <LjL> !tell proof about pastebin
[09:16] <orangefly> what is the command to renew ip address....???....
[09:16] <Rick-uk> it is asking for realplayer - I downloaded the Linux plugin for FF, but it tells me I need to install it manually
[09:16] <PSUSI> LjL: hrm... I don't seem to have the rgb.dir and .pag binary versions... could that be my problem?
[09:16] <LjL> proof: open your /etc/apt/sources.list file with an editor (like gedit), and post the contents to the pastebin
[09:16] <piddy> pike_: it says the driver isnt there
[09:17] <kmaynard> Rick-uk, https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/
[09:17] <piddy> but the kernel mod is
[09:17] <pike_> piddy: then it shouldnt be installed. is everything working ok or are you having problems with graphics?
[09:17] <o_O> silox, blacklist snd_maestro3
[09:18] <LjL> PSUSI: let me see if i have those
[09:18] <tnnc> i have an onboard video cirrus logic GD 5480 the resution is only at 800x600 and can get it to do more is there anything i change change to make it use an better one
[09:18] <silox> o_O will I still have my USB card ebabled then?
[09:18] <PSUSI> LjL: that link you gave me said xrgb is normally used to convert the text file into a binary one... I have the text file and it does define black... but no binary version
[09:18] <Studiosus> how to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[09:18] <ianmacgregor> !resolution | tnnc
[09:18] <ubotu> tnnc: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:18] <jmitchj> poningru: do you remember what that scan command was i had to try?
[09:18] <LjL> PSUSI: i have the .txt but not the .pag. i am on Edgy
[09:19] <digit> anyone know how to get aterm to recognize .Xdefaults?
[09:19] <o_O> silox: it should
[09:19] <PSUSI> hrm... weird
[09:19] <LjL> PSUSI: an example of a program that complains about that?
[09:19] <digit> under gnome that is
[09:19] <PSUSI> LjL: emacs and gitk
[09:19] <proof> how do i get to /etc/apt/sources
[09:19] <proof> im kinda new to ubuntu
[09:19] <silox> o_O "blacklist: command not found"
[09:19] <pike_> proof: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    type that in a terminal
[09:19] <digit> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <PSUSI> LjL: funny thing is my system at home ran dapper throughout the development process and is nwo on edgy... never had this problem... I upgrade this server at work and this happens...
[09:20] <piddy> i just installed the beta  nvidia driver which works great but if i shutdown and reboot xorg has a panic attack and reports that the apt is mismatched 71** with the new one 9652
[09:20] <o_O> silox: you put that in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:20] <proof> where can i find sudo gedit
[09:20] <silox> o_O oh thanks
[09:20] <snottlebocket> still says there's uncorrected errors in the swap partition
[09:20] <jmitchj> poningru: do you remember what that scan command was i had to try?
[09:20] <o_O> silox, then when you reboot it shouldn't load the driver for the internal sound card
[09:20] <digit> you type it in as a command in the termninal
[09:20] <ianmacgregor> proof: Never run sudo gedit.. the proper command is gksudo gedit
[09:21] <piddy> if i install the beata again it works great unless i reboot and i have to install the driver again
[09:21] <silox> o_O okay thx :)
[09:21] <tnnc> ianmacgregor try those docs yesterday and i could not get anything from it thanks
[09:21] <pike_> proof: try to find the terminal icon in your launch menu and open it
[09:21] <LjL> PSUSI: hm, hold on a second, i'm trying to install gitk but apparently my repositories are down right now
[09:21] <proof> ok its open now
[09:21] <poningru> jmitchj: oh it was iwlist scan
[09:21] <digit> anyone use aterm under gnome?
[09:21] <LjL> proof: select all, copy, and then paste into the pastebin
[09:21] <ianmacgregor> proof: press ALT+F2, then type in: gksudo gedit
[09:21] <PSUSI> LjL: you got emacs installed?
[09:21] <jmitchj> poningru: still no scan results
[09:21] <LjL> PSUSI: nope
[09:21] <Studiosus> ok, found by myself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[09:21] <Ropechoborra> !upgrade
[09:21] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:21] <orangefly> how do you renew the ip address from the command line....???....
[09:22] <silox> o_O should i change snd_maestro3 to ess_maestro3 if my card is named ESS Maestro 3?
[09:22] <pike_> proof: sudo is the command you use when you need to do something with admin rights so sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list will run gedit with admin rights and open the sources.list file
[09:22] <Compy> hmm it seems ubuntu-desktop doesnt have the CDROM enabled by default in the sources.list, what is the syntax line to add there (I cant seem to find the syntax for the desktop cdrom source)
[09:22] <o_O> silox, no, the driver is snd_maestro3, I have the same laptop ;)
[09:22] <ianmacgregor> pike_: You should not sun a gui admin app with sudo. The proper way to run it is with gksudo
[09:22] <piddy> pike_ : i just installed the beta  nvidia driver which works great but if i shutdown and reboot xorg has a panic attack and reports that the apt is mismatched 71** with the new one 9652
[09:22] <myllymaa> orangefly: sudo ifdown ethx then sudo ifup ethx
[09:23] <silox> o_O oh :) then you might know how i can disable the internal USB to?
[09:23] <piddy> pike_ :if i install the beta again it works great unless i reboot and i have to install the driver again
[09:23] <LjL> proof: when you're done, give us the URL of the pastebin page
[09:23] <proof> ok i copied all of the words that came out on the source list so what do i do now
[09:23] <PSUSI> ianmacgregor: what difference does it make?
[09:23] <LjL> proof: paste it all into the pastebin
[09:23] <LjL> !pastebin
[09:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:23] <ianmacgregor> PSUSI: LOTS!
[09:23] <proof> what is the pastebin located
[09:23] <o_O> silox, you can do that in BIOS, can't you? make sure you get the latest BIOS update, they added a lot of stuff to it (its a year or so old but if you never updated, you probably don't have it)
[09:23] <ianmacgregor> PSUSI: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[09:24] <LjL> PSUSI: can you give me a quick hint on how to start/configure gitk? right now it complains it cannot find the .git directory
[09:24] <pike_> ianmacgregor: not likely to cause a problem
[09:24] <LjL> proof: Ubotu just told you
[09:24] <silox> o_O i have the latest and i can only disable "USB legacy" which doesnt change anything...
[09:24] <LjL> !pastebin > proof
[09:24] <liwi> !schedule
[09:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:24] <o_O> silox, you want to disable the USB ports entirely?
[09:24] <PSUSI> LjL: it is for showing history in a git repository... you need to check one out to inspect ;)
[09:24] <Celt> cya later everyone thanks for the help.
[09:24] <silox> o_O yes
[09:24] <ianmacgregor> pike_: That's completely false and please don't tell people to run a gui admin app with sudo.. it *can* cause problems.
[09:24] <orangefly> it says ignoring unknown interface ethx=ethx
[09:24] <proof> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27999/
[09:24] <mirak> does anyone ever used a usb to rs232 adapter on linux ? I wonder if it works
[09:24] <silox> o_O i have a external USB 2 card
[09:25] <ianmacgregor> pike_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[09:25] <silox> o_O which i rather use
[09:25] <proof> ljl here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27999/
[09:25] <Dr_willis> mirak,  i had a usb to parallel port that worked..   serial 'should' work.. but it may depend on the chipset/maker of the thing
[09:25] <pike_> ianmacgregor: i use sudo constantly with no issues.  any issue it did cause would be a ~/ thing and easy to fix
[09:25] <LjL> proof, you're using Hoary. that's quite an old version of Ubuntu
[09:25] <pike_> ianmacgregor: i will look a link
[09:25] <ianmacgregor> !worksforme | pike_
[09:25] <ubotu> pike_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:25] <proof> its the only cd i had is there anyway i can upgrade?
[09:25] <LjL> proof, Hoary is still an officially supported version, however myself i have never even used it
[09:25] <silox> o_O the internal is broken and sends error messages when i use the terminal..
[09:26] <o_O> silox, try blacklist uhci_ucd, that might also disable the external card though depending on what driver that uses
[09:26] <narayana> when i try to compile a module it says that I dont have the /lib/modules/2.6/build directory. What do i have to install to get that dir?
[09:26] <liwi> fedora also plans to final release on 24-26 october. are these dates linked?
[09:26] <LjL> proof: yeah... by getting and burning a current CD. or by upgrading to Breezy, and then upgrading to Dapper (messy).
[09:26] <silox> o_O okay i will try :)
[09:26] <NeoThermic> !install
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:26] <variant> !xgl
[09:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:27] <proof> how do i burn that cd i dont have windows anymore cause something happend so my friend told me to use ubuntu and its the only cd he had
[09:27] <Studiosus> orangefly, or edit your /etc/network/intrefaces then do /etc/init.d/networking restart - this will save you from manually updating routing tables
[09:27] <silox> o_O brb i will restart now
[09:27] <LjL> proof: anyway, this is the way you should make your sources.list look: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28000/
[09:27] <variant> proof: apt-get install k3b
[09:28] <variant> proof: then start k3b from the menu or by typeing k3b in command prompt
[09:28] <PSUSI> no need for k3b, just download the iso, right click and burn in nautilus
[09:28] <LjL> proof, download an Ubuntu ISO image, and then use a burning tool... myself, i usually use the "cdrecord" command (which you should already have installed)
[09:28] <variant> PSUSI: k3b is nicer :)
[09:28] <iMax> hi
[09:28] <PSUSI> nautilus is simpler ;)
[09:28] <orangefly> i don't even know how to edit files from the command line....i'm new at this server thing, but i am trying to learn....i thought file and print sharing would be easy enough....
[09:28] <LjL> PSUSI: keep in mind he's using Hoary.
[09:28] <variant> ew
[09:28] <PSUSI> did hoary not have that?
[09:29] <LjL> PSUSI: i don't know, i started with breezy. and i use KDE anyway :-)
[09:29] <LjL> but it might not
[09:29] <Studiosus> file and print sharing is one step further. proper admin should learn basic things like that :)
[09:29] <PSUSI> yea, I started with breezy rc too
[09:29] <cainlevy> hello ... a friend of mine is having the weirdest problems with his internet connection in ubuntu ... this a good place to ask?
[09:29] <Studiosus> you don't have to use command line editor, though nano is very simple and intutive (for me)
[09:29] <variant> cainlevy: yes
[09:30] <orangefly> the pdf at help.ubuntu isn't that informitive....
[09:30] <Em3rald> Yes, NANO is a great command-line editor.  More intuitive than vi, in my opinion
[09:30] <Compy> anyone?
[09:31] <NeoThermic> ok, question, during install can I select ReiserFS3, or do I have to do some form of trickery to enable it?
[09:31] <LjL> proof: you do have a cd burner anyway?
[09:31] <Compy> Just trying to figure out the syntax to get ubuntu-desktop to read from the CDROM as a repository for apt-get
[09:31] <LjL> proof: (and a decent connection, otherwise downloading will take ages)
[09:31] <LjL> Compy: apt-cdrom add
[09:31] <cainlevy> so he was trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, and was in the midst of `apt-get dist-upgrade` when he became unable to resolve the repo. further testing shows that his connection appears fine - he can ping/browse internal servers, and can get dns for external servers, but can't do much of anything else
[09:31] <proof> yea i have a cd burner
[09:31] <l2006> 73 4d0r0
[09:31] <foo> Why can I apt-cache show webmin on ubuntu server but not install?
[09:32] <LjL> !webmin
[09:32] <cainlevy> i'm on the same switch as him right now, and i can access everything he cannot
[09:32] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[09:32] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  if you select to manually edit the partitions you can indeed select reiser.
[09:32] <foo> liwi: Why?
[09:32] <foo> LjL: ^^
[09:32] <NeoThermic> Em3rald: thanks :)
[09:32] <LjL> foo: i don't know.
[09:32] <foo> LjL: Why does apt-cache show webmin return something .. but apt-cache search webmin not?
[09:32] <cainlevy> so, for instance, we can both ping google.com, but only i can `telnet google.com 80`
[09:32] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  although ... not sure if it's FS3 or not ... I don't know much about the ReiserFS to be honest.
[09:32] <silox> o_O  the soundcard is disabled! :) but the external USB card doesnt work..
[09:33] <cainlevy> anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
[09:33] <NeoThermic> Em3rald: I guess I'll find out when I get there :)
[09:33] <jmitchj> poningru: my card won;t even activate now
[09:33] <LjL> foo: happens sometimes, which packages that are referred to but don't actually exist. and i'm afraid webmin doesn't exist as a package anymore.
[09:33] <cainlevy> he's threatening to switch back to windows :(
[09:33] <foo> LjL: then they should remove that. hmm.
[09:33] <o_O> silox, yeah, they're probably both using the same driver then... not sure how to have it only load the driver for the external card
[09:34] <LjL> proof: go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download , and download from the x86 "Desktop" ISO image from a mirror that's fast enough for you
[09:34] <LjL> cainlevy: so connection is working, and DNS is working, but no repos? what about pinging the repos?
[09:35] <LjL> cainlevy: and what about the web for that matter?
[09:35] <cainlevy> LjL: yes, can ping the repos ... but can't pull from the repos or browse the web
[09:35] <LjL> cainlevy: (and why don't you have him wait until Edgy is actually released, for that matter? ;)
[09:35] <silox> o_O okay but i can live with that, the audio should work properly now anyway. Thanks for the help
[09:35] <cainlevy> LjL: yeah, i'm running edgy without problems, so i jumped the gun on the recommendation
[09:36] <NeoThermic> eeep! It's assimilating me! Oh, wait, thats a good thing. Yay! :P
[09:36] <LjL> cainlevy: well, anyway, if it stopped working while apt-get was still only *downloading* the Edgy packages (that is correct, isn't it?), he's still on Dapper, and the "apt-get dist-upgrade" shouldn't even conceivably have caused the problem
[09:36] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  You have been assimilated.  Resistance if futile.
[09:36] <cainlevy> LjL: the oddest things are that he can browse internal sites, but not external sites. yet i'm on the same switch and have no problems.
[09:36] <cainlevy> LjL: agreed. that's just coincidentally what was happening ...
[09:37] <LjL> cainlevy: aren't you behind a web proxy?
[09:37] <NeoThermic> Em3rald: `if`? :)
[09:37] <cainlevy> LjL: not to my knowledge
[09:37] <Em3rald> hahaha ... yeah, you get the point you punk ;)
[09:37] <LjL> cainlevy: so you actually *can* "telnet www.google.com 80" on your own computer?
[09:37] <cainlevy> LjL: yes
[09:37] <zMott> any more updates coming
[09:38] <LjL> cainlevy: what kind of network setup is that? an office?
[09:38] <statters> If I got a folder with man pages how do I import them so they show in the man command?
[09:38] <cainlevy> LjL: yep. running on dhcp. i have access to the router (monowall), if that helps.
[09:38] <zMott> are they going to add any more to ubuntu edgy
[09:39] <njal_> I want to change the location of a grub install, from hda1 to sda1 (since sda1 is the master drive) but every time i boot it gives me the grub menu from the linux instalation on hda1
[09:39] <liwi> ktos medytuje dzis dla Polski?
[09:39] <K1765> When i'm writing stuff, in irc, gaim, firefox, instead of having 1 space between the words, I have 2 why?
[09:39] <Cale> K1765: huh?
[09:40] <LjL> cainlevy: what about other ports? can he telnet to, say a mail server... or for that matter, "telnet irc.freenode.org 6667"?
[09:40] <cainlevy> K1765: you're pressing space twice? :)
[09:40] <LjL> !pl > liwi
[09:40] <Cale> (there's only one space between the words in your message there)
[09:40] <PSUSI> LjL: were you able to run emacs or gitk?  if so do you have an RgbPath entry in the Files section of your xorg.conf?  found a thread sugesting that might be the problem... I don't have that entry
[09:40] <NeoThermic> cainlevy: doubletap is a bitch is it not? :)
[09:40] <Em3rald> K1765:  That is odd ... is it "truly" 2 spaces, or just a really wide space?
[09:40] <K1765> No im not pressing space twice, its doing it itself
[09:40] <Studiosus> funny, minimal requirements of dapper for server is much lesser than for desktop :P
[09:40] <K1765> Might be wide spaced, how do I make it so its not?
[09:40] <WiseOdd> any1 want to help sb eho regrettably still is a linux noob? I cant figure out how to write acces to my system... I had it written in a file, but me system crashed, so i lost the file :(
[09:40] <NeoThermic> Studiosus: logical, many servers do not need a GUI
[09:40] <Cale> K1765: could it be a property of the font you're using?
[09:40] <cainlevy> LjL: negative, can't telnet irc.freenode.org 6667
[09:40] <WiseOdd> eho=who
[09:41] <LjL> PSUSI, no, gitk left me on my own for configuring it, the man page being less than helpful, and emacs... brrr no, i'm not installing it :P
[09:41] <njal_> where can i get some help with grub?
[09:41] <proof> what would flash player be named in ubuntu?
[09:41] <cainlevy> LjL: makes me think it's a tcp problem ... ping runs on udp?
[09:41] <LjL> cainlevy: "nslookup www.google.com" works?
[09:41] <Duesentrieb> njal_,  #grub? just a guess.
[09:41] <K1765> umm yup it was lol
[09:41] <K1765> Thanks
[09:41] <PSUSI> LjL: well, do you have an RgbPath entry in your xorg.conf?
[09:41] <LjL> cainlevy: hm, yeah. and DNS too.
[09:41] <LjL> cainlevy: well actually no, i don't know about ping
[09:41] <Duesentrieb> anyway - hi all. can you give me a hand wilth alsa troubles?
[09:41] <K1765> umm
[09:41] <K1765> wait
[09:41] <njal_> !grub
[09:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:41] <pike_> njal_: you can either change the boot order in the bios or do sudo grub ; then root (sd0,0) then setup (hd0) ive never done scsi in grub but that might work
[09:41] <K1765> its still doing it in gaim
[09:41] <cainlevy> LjL: yeah, nslookup works
[09:41] <B00N> hello @all
[09:41] <Duesentrieb> everything looks fine as far as i can tell, but i hear no sound-
[09:42] <Duesentrieb> details are here: http://pastebin.ca/217504
[09:42] <Chmd> when i install nvidia drivers 8776 and restart x everything is fine but when I reboot and try to go into X i get an error about it searching for nvidia kernel module 7174 when i have 8776?  Any answers to this?
[09:42] <Em3rald> poof:  it's still flash.
[09:42] <njal_> pike_: it's not scsi it's SATA but same thing to linux afaik
[09:42] <B00N> any germans here?
[09:42] <K1765> Nvm.
[09:42] <WiseOdd> !harddisk
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <Duesentrieb> #alsa seems bretty dead, so... maybe you guys know what to look for?
[09:42] <pike_> njal_: ach sorry mistyped
[09:42] <proof> so in synaptic i put flash?
[09:42] <Yako2> hello everyone
[09:42] <B00N> can anyone tell me how a package has too look like?
[09:43] <Em3rald> Proof:  Mmm ... not sure if thats the best way.  You may consider 3rd party installers (unless someone here can recommend another way).
[09:43] <Em3rald> !automatix
[09:43] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[09:43] <Braindead> B00N: blond and tall
[09:43] <kingace> hello
[09:43] <Studiosus> it so annoys me that sim 0.9.3 hasn't icq icon :((
[09:43] <Em3rald> !automatix > proof
[09:43] <kingace> is there an off-topic channel for ubuntu or a place to discuss software, or can I do that here
[09:43] <Seveas> !offtopic
[09:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:43] <Yako2> does anyone know how to make the interface work of a ipw3945 on Edgy?
[09:43] <B00N> oh thanx, Braindead
[09:43] <geokok> just messed iptables bad. Can I restore original configuration or do I have to re-install edgy?
[09:44] <Braindead> geokok: define messed
[09:44] <compengi> LjL, how do i update my nvidia driver?
[09:44] <Seveas> geokok, iptables -F
[09:44] <kingace> thanks
[09:44] <proof> why do people write it !automatix?
[09:44] <proof> with the ! sign?
[09:44] <geokok> I run a script to get ekiga to work..since then no internet at all
[09:44] <WiseOdd> any1 want to help sb who regrettably still is a linux noob? I cant figure out how to gain write acces to my system... I had it written in a file, but me system crashed, so i lost the file :(
[09:44] <Braindead> Seveas: bad suggestion. he'd better set ACCEPT default policies...
[09:44] <Seveas> proof, tomake ubotu tellyou thatyou should not use that piece ofcrap ;)
[09:44] <ianmacgregor> proof: That triggers the bot (ubotu) to print a factoid about it
[09:45] <ianmacgregor> Seveas: hahaha
[09:45] <Yako2> WiseOdd: use sudo
[09:45] <Em3rald> Seveas:  is there a better way to install Flash plugins for the non-guru?
[09:45] <geokok> the script was at the ekiga official documentation
[09:45] <Braindead> Em3rald: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:45] <Seveas> Em3rald, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:45] <LjL> proof: the user called "Ubotu", which is in this channel, is not a person but a bot. it's a machine that responds to commands. commands for Ubotu start with a "!".
[09:45] <WiseOdd> Yako2: i would,but how do i enable the system to ordinary users? I run as standard user most of the time...
[09:46] <NeoThermic> Em3rald: so you're saying that if I opt to manually edit the partition tables, I should be able to select RFS3?
[09:46] <LjL> PSUSI: no, nothing like that in my xorg.conf
[09:46] <PSUSI> Seveas: hey... got any idea what could cause emacs and gitk to complain that they can't look up the color 'black' when it is clearly defined in /etc/X11/rgb.txt?  this is since upgrading a server to dapper
[09:46] <Yako2> WiseOdd: you can do that by chrooting every file to your user, but that isnt recommended
[09:46] <Seveas> PSUSI, you're using XGL
[09:46] <PSUSI> LjL: yea... me neither... checked the xorg logs and it says it defaults to /etc/X11/rgb
[09:46] <compengi> variant, how do i update my nvidia driver
[09:46] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  Well, I am only going from experience, and when I did it with the alternative install CD, (I think it was), I had the option.
[09:46] <Yako2> its recommended to just use sudo
[09:46] <geokok> Seveas should I go with iptables -F??
[09:47] <PSUSI> XGL?
[09:47] <Seveas> geokok, that's part of the solution
[09:47] <Em3rald> Seveas:  Does that plugin installation also work for Opera?  I have flash in Opera now, but I don't remember how I did it LOL/
[09:47] <Yako2> Does anyone know how to get my Intel PRO/Wireless to work?
[09:47] <Seveas> Em3rald, no
[09:47] <Yako2> I'm missing an eth1 interface
[09:47] <PSUSI> Seveas: ohh no... definately nothing fancy like that... just running.... oh wait... I'm running an Xvnc terminal server!
[09:47] <geokok> ok..i ll have to reinstall then..but even then i ll have to get ekige to work somehow....
[09:47] <PSUSI> that's got its own config... man I'm an idiot
[09:48] <Seveas> PSUSI, well therewe go 
[09:48] <pike_> geokok: the goal is to when you type sudo iptables -L   get three responses inbound outbound and forward all saying accept iptables is easy to reset
[09:48] <PSUSI> the vnc X server probably just needs told the right path to the file
[09:48] <NeoThermic> Em3rald: well, here goes nothing. If France blows up, you know why ;)
[09:48] <WiseOdd> Yako2: chrooting wouldnt be a problem, bcause im only talking about the secondary partition, not the system partition...
[09:48] <PSUSI> did it change locations since breezy?
[09:48] <PSUSI> hrm... weird..
[09:48] <Chmd> anyone give me a hand please?
[09:48] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  Okiedokie ... good luck!
[09:48] <Seveas> yes
[09:48] <PSUSI> aha
[09:48] <Yako2> wiseodd: open a terminal and type chroot
[09:48] <Em3rald> (mind you ... how much would the world miss france?)
[09:48] <Yako2> it'll show you how
[09:48] <silox> o_O another problem now :) when i try to start Americans Army the consol prompts /dev/[sound/] dsp: not found :/
[09:48] <geokok> so how do I reset pike_
[09:48] <geokok> ?
[09:48] <PSUSI> Seveas: btw... why is the rgb.txt not compiled into the fast binary version?
[09:49] <WiseOdd> Yako2: but ill do that :) thx for da help :) ill probably be back soon....
[09:49] <Chmd> ive installed nvidia drivers 8776 on a fresh install everything is fine till i reboot
[09:49] <ZirJoker> !games
[09:49] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:49] <o_O> silox, well did the other sound card create a /dev/dsp or something equivalent? I'm not sure about USB sound cards
[09:49] <Chmd> when i reboot and try to go into x i get an error saying searching for nvidia kernel module 7174 when I have 8776?
[09:49] <Yako2> wiseodd: use chuid
[09:49] <Yako2> not chroot
[09:50] <Yako2> my bad
[09:50] <silox> o_O i really dont know :/
[09:50] <Seveas> !-games
[09:50] <ubotu> games aliases: nexuiz, wow, warcraft, et, fun, doom, doom3 - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 14:02:03
[09:50] <cainlevy> LjL: sorry, i lost my connection to #ubuntu ... did you have any ideas that i missed?
[09:50] <Seveas> !games =~ s/$/ and ubuntugames.org/
[09:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[09:50] <Chmd> anyone?
[09:50] <Qaldune> hi
[09:50] <LjL> cainlevy: well, you said that nslookup worked... try this one "nslookup www.google.com 212.245.255.2"
[09:50] <cainlevy> LjL: last i knew we'd verified that nslookup works
[09:50] <silox> o_O no cant see anything in /dev/
[09:50] <Vornotron> So there's the screensaver "molecule" - are there add-on packs?  The default selection is... limited.
[09:51] <Seveas> silox, /dev is empty?
[09:51] <LjL> cainlevy: that IP address is a DNS server that i know is up. i'm trying to see if an *external* DNS server works
[09:51] <cainlevy> LjL: that works
[09:51] <o_O> o_O, do you know if its working at all?
[09:51] <silox> Seveas no but no dsp
[09:51] <geokok> how can i get ekiga to work if port forward doesnt help?
[09:51] <LjL> cainlevy: hmm.
[09:51] <Seveas> silox, do you get sound from eg a music player?
[09:51] <pike_> geokok: im not too familiar but what seveas said like sudo iptables -F; sudo iptables -X; sudo iptables -P INPUT ACEPT; sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT; sudo iptables FORWARD ACCEPT would work i think
[09:52] <Seveas> pike_, that sounds about right
[09:52] <Seveas> unlesshe messedwith his other tables that should do it ;)
[09:52] <silox> Seveas no when i checked now it didnt work actually :/
[09:52] <LjL> cainlevy: i don't know where dhclient logs its stuff, since i'm on a static address, but... perhaps look at /var/log/whatever and see if the DHCP has, by any chance, leased a new address right when things stopped working?
[09:52] <compengi> how do i update my nvidia driver?
[09:52] <Seveas> silox, does this commandgive any output: lsmod | grep snd
[09:52] <Chmd> anyone??????
[09:52] <Seveas> !nvidia > compengi
[09:53] <compengi> Seveas, can't i just run an update?
[09:53] <Chmd> Alakazamz0r: are you there?
[09:53] <Seveas> not yet
[09:53] <Alakazamz0r> whats up
[09:53] <Seveas> official ubuntu updates will happen next week
[09:53] <Chmd> umm
[09:53] <geokok> thanks seveas and pike. I ll try and will let u know.
[09:53] <silox> Seveas
[09:53] <Chmd> i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:53] <Chmd> did all updates
[09:53] <silox> snd_usb_audio          78880  2
[09:53] <silox> snd_pcm_oss            46080  0
[09:54] <Chmd> downloaded 8776 nvidia drivers
[09:54] <silox> snd_mixer_oss          18560  1 snd_pcm_oss
[09:54] <pike_> geokok: there were severy mistypes there but you get the idea :) iptables -P something ACCEPT
[09:54] <silox> snd_pcm                80520  3 snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss
[09:54] <njal_> !grub
[09:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:54] <Chmd> everything is fine till i reboot
[09:54] <Seveas> Chmd, after a kernel update you'll hav to reinstall nvidia
[09:54] <Chmd> upon reboot it complains about nvidia-kernel module 7174 when i have 8776
[09:54] <Seveas> so you now have to reinstall nvidia
[09:54] <Chmd> hmm i have
[09:54] <Chmd> ill try again
[09:55] <silox__> still there?
[09:55] <proof> how can you watch videos on firefox if you need the wmp plugin?
[09:55] <BooBar> it dosent work
[09:56] <Seveas> proof, mozilla-mplayer + w32codecs
[09:56] <silox__> did u see my output?
[09:56] <NeoThermic> ok, if I allocate a 20GB drive in terms of a 1GB ext3 and 17GB resiserfs, ubuntu will use that correctly for swap and root respecticly, yes?
[09:56] <proof> seveas can you link me to that please
[09:56] <Seveas> !mplayer > proof
[09:56] <Seveas> !w32codecs > proof
[09:56] <Hendikins> Doesn't do much good if it requires scripting WMP or does detection of WMP :-)
[09:56] <silox__> Seveas did u see my output?
[09:57] <Hendikins> (in which case you basically get stuck with CrossOver + WMP itself, or WINE)
[09:57] <ianmacgregor> silox__: Oh, he saw it ;)
[09:57] <cainlevy> LjL: can't find anything in the logs
[09:57] <silox__> ianmacgregor hehe ;)
[09:57] <ifrozen> hi
[09:57] <pike_> NeoThermic: you want the 1G partition as swap?
[09:58] <NeoThermic> yes
[09:58] <KenSentMe> How do i open window 11 and 12 in irssi?
[09:58] <LjL> cainlevy: look in /var/log/syslog... you should have at least some lines like    /var/log/syslog:Oct 23 19:29:51 ljlhead dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 1.55.222.80 port 67
[09:58] <NeoThermic> the laptop suffers at this moment in time from a stupid lack of RAM (256), so I wish to make sure swap is sufficent.
[09:58] <leakd>  oops.
[09:58] <NeoThermic> Although, is 1G a bit excessive?
[09:58] <ianmacgregor> KenSentMe: ALT+q and ALT+w
[09:58] <silox__> What should i do to get my AUDIO to work?? Please, someone
[09:58] <iter> NeoThermic: 2x your ram is a good ballpark
[09:59] <NeoThermic> heh, that'd only be 512M
[09:59] <pike_> NeoThermic: you would select swap then not ext3 unless you wanted to make like a swapfile or something.  i never touch swap much and use 256mb but i guess it might depend on your situation
[09:59] <aoupi> hi, anyone know how to be 2 users at the same terminal? (ytalk isn't doing it)
[09:59] <iter> if you have the extra space though, and plan to upgrade ram in the future....
[09:59] <PSUSI> imho 1x your ram is more than sufficient
[09:59] <LjL> cainlevy: besides, one thing i'd try, personally, would be to just power off the machine, wait a couple of minutes, power it on, and see when happens when/if i get a new DHCP lease on a different address ;-)
[09:59] <NeoThermic> pike_: ah, there's a swap option
[09:59] <clarkbaumgartner> Ok, so: My sound stopped working. Whenever i would do anything sound related ubuntu would tell me that certain Gstreamer or alsa plugins were missing. The people on the forums told me I should use the package manager to reinstall everything relating to those two, then restart. Nothing happened. They then told me 'completely remove' all Gstreamer and Alsa stuff then reinstall all of them. Now when I turn my computer on 
[09:59] <NeoThermic> I'll make it 768M
[09:59] <NeoThermic> and see how that goes
[10:00] <NeoThermic> the option for swap is linux-swap, right, I'm not being silly in selecting that?
[10:01] <Chmd> Ok Alakazamz0r i have reinstalled the drivers and everything is fine right now but after I reboot I will have the same problem so I will check that out
[10:01] <Chmd> brb
[10:01] <Chmd> :)
[10:01] <Alakazamz0r> ko chm
[10:01] <iter> NeoThermic: yep swap
[10:01] <Alakazamz0r> ko chad
[10:01] <NeoThermic> right
[10:01] <ryanakca> anybody have a link on booting from CD... bios...
[10:01] <NeoThermic> here goes nothing
[10:02] <NeoThermic> worst-case, I just have to do this again :)
[10:02] <pike_> ryanakca: what laptop manufacturer?
[10:02] <DrBanzai> Is there a good How-To on setting up syslog to log for remote systems?
[10:02] <pike_> ryanakca: or desktop i guess
[10:02] <ryanakca> pike_: dunno, this guy has an intel... and it's 'DELETE' to get into bios
[10:03] <Seveas> proof, stop dccing me
[10:04] <ryanakca> pike_:  I explained to him the idea, and I'm hoping it'll work, he's testing it now, but if it doesn't, I want to have a link :)
[10:04] <cainlevy> LjL: still combing the log files for something suspicious ... we did reboot once, but didn't leave it off for very long
[10:04] <cainlevy> LjL: sounds like a windows fix ;)
[10:04] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[10:04] <Seveas> !it
[10:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:04] <aoupi> anyone know of a way to multiplayer ssh :) I need to be able to use the same terminal as another person simultaniously
[10:04] <Braindead> aoupi: screen
[10:04] <LjL> Seveas: useless. this guy always says "ciao a tutti" when he joins and when he leaves. tried to tell him a few times...
[10:05] <Seveas> ah
[10:05] <nuked_omen> aoupi: su
[10:05] <Seveas> automessages are bannable
[10:05] <nuked_omen> su user
[10:05] <aoupi> Braindead: can I be 2 users in that, awsome
[10:05] <digit_> so, when gnome starts, the application font is too small. if i open up the fonts dialog, change nothing, and close it, they return to normal....
[10:05] <marcrosoft> when i try to do a apt-get install -f i get the following error corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:05] <aoupi> nuked_omen: no 2 different people at the same time :)
[10:05] <Seveas> hmm, dynamic ip
[10:05] <marcrosoft> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:05] <aoupi> nuked_omen: ssh'ing to the same puter
[10:05] <nuked_omen> ok
[10:05] <marcrosoft>  /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-pde_3.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:05] <Lightenix> anyone knows how to fix apt-get if i deleted some files by hand?:P
[10:06] <marcrosoft> last time i cleared it with dpkg --clear-avail ... but that isn't working this time
[10:06] <Seveas> Lightenix, depends on which files
[10:06] <nuked_omen> i got a command that will run photoshop under ubunut, when i put this command in a luncher icon, it does not excute
[10:06] <Lightenix> mmm well i deleted all files that were found by locate eclipse
[10:06] <ryanakca> pike_:  northern micro
[10:06] <Seveas> apt-get install --reinstall eclipse
[10:06] <nuked_omen> it says failed to excute child process WINEDLLOVERRIDES=wintab32=n
[10:07] <compengi> Seveas, is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-386 the newest one for i386 system?
[10:07] <silox> Finally some success! Now i got the USB card to work in the OS, i can play music etc. but it still shows the dev/dsp/audio error when i try to start Americas Army (no sound), whats whrong??
[10:07] <Seveas> compengi, it's the generic metapackage for dapper
[10:07] <compengi> Seveas, how do i check my kernel version?
[10:07] <nuked_omen> silox: what program?
[10:07] <Braindead> aoupi: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/14/1945249
[10:08] <Lightenix> no it is not working, it says this: Nap http://si.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe eclipse 3.1.2-1ubuntu6
[10:08] <Lightenix>   Zaasna napaka pri razreevanju 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'
[10:08] <Seveas> compengi, uname -r
[10:08] <silox> nuked_omen Americans Army armyops
[10:08] <Lightenix> which means like temporary error or smthing at 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'
[10:08] <nuked_omen> that's like a name for a movie
[10:08] <DeZusa> I've added two DNS servers in the Network Connections, but Ubuntu keeps erasing them now and again and re-adding the default one. This causes my connection to die. What can I do?`
[10:08] <Chmd> ok Alakazamz0r here is the error I get when I reboot http://pastebin.ca/217736
[10:09] <ryanakca> anybody have a link on booting from CD... Northern Micro, BIOS...
[10:09] <Chmd> if you dont mind lookin at it
[10:09] <Chmd> that is
[10:09] <pike_> ryanakca: no telling really. ive found non-tech people do pretty good editing bios as long as they have you on the phone and can say "i see this.. is that right?"
[10:09] <Seveas> DeZusa, fix your dhcp server
[10:09] <ryanakca> kk
[10:09] <nuked_omen> it's hard to get help when people who need help is a lot more than people who help
[10:09] <silox> nuked_omen no its a game, free and avaible for Linux :)
[10:09] <LjL> cainlevy: yeah but then we're trying to fix something that, imho, is not the computer's problem, but something on the network... by the way, is the switch you said you're under just a switch, or a router? and you said you had access to some router -- can you force it to lease a new IP address?
[10:09] <nuked_omen> are*
[10:09] <DeZusa> Seveas: are there settings for that?
[10:09] <Lightenix> DeZusa: it worked for me, that i wrote right dns names, and then installed resolvconf
[10:09] <DeZusa> or rather, where do I find them?
[10:10] <nuked_omen> silox: do 'killall /dev/dsp' and try again
[10:10] <silox> yes
[10:10] <silox> nuked_omen okay
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, my kernel version is 2.6.15-27-386 but i can't find linux-restricted-modules for this kernel version it latest is 2.6.15-26-386 , what should i do?
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, my kernel version is 2.6.15-27-386 but i can't find linux-restricted-modules for this kernel version the latest is 2.6.15-26-386 , what should i do?*
[10:10] <silox> nuked_omen /dev/dsp cant find...
[10:10] <DeZusa> Lightenix; what's resolvconf?
[10:11] <nuked_omen> silox: try 'killall dsp'
[10:11] <T`2> anyone know if ubuntu edgy release on schedule for 26th?
[10:11] <silox> nuked_omen no process ended
[10:11] <cainlevy> LjL: we're both connected to the same 10/100 switch which then plugins into the wall, gets switched another couple of times (i think), and hits our public router. i'm checking for a way to view connected computers or force a dhcp renewal...
[10:11] <Seveas> T`2, #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <nuked_omen> silox: ok.. what's the command to play the game?
[10:11] <silox> nuked_omen gamefolder ./armyops
[10:12] <T`2> Seveas, thanks
[10:12] <nuked_omen> silox: type 'aoss ./armyops'
[10:12] <silox> nuked_omen okay
[10:12] <hoze_> I have a Belkin USB wireless card.  When booted with the Live CD i'm not connected to the network.  Will it work once installed properly?
[10:12] <Distro^Junkie> silox, what version of americas army ?
[10:12] <compengi> Seveas, so?
[10:13] <silox> nuked_omen cant find aoss
[10:13] <silox> Distro^Junkie 2.1.0
[10:13] <Seveas> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[10:13] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-5 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB
[10:13] <Distro^Junkie> wow that's old
[10:13] <Seveas> compengi, it exists - check your sources.list
[10:13] <nuked_omen> silox: i assume you're not on ubuntu
[10:14] <silox> Distro^Junkie hehe couldnt find anything newer for linux
[10:14] <compengi> Seveas, i can't find it in repos =/
[10:14] <Distro^Junkie> and you won't as they are not working on linux anymore
[10:14] <Alakazamz0r> looking chad
[10:14] <silox> nuked_omen i am on ubuntu now
[10:14] <greenman> hello.  I'm going to be new to ubuntu, and i was wondering.  Is it pretty simple, or complicated to setup ubuntu to be 64bit native, but allow you to run 32 bit apps?
[10:14] <Distro^Junkie> you could try using wine and getting the latest version of AAO
[10:14] <Seveas> greenman, not too simple
[10:14] <compengi> Seveas, i see only 686 and k7 =/
[10:15] <Seveas> compengi, if ubotu says it exists, then it exists ;)
[10:15] <greenman> Seveas: hmm...  do you get noticable improvement running 64?  or should i just make it be 32?
[10:15] <hoze_> How would I go about installing a USB network adapter with ubuntu?
[10:15] <nuked_omen> silox: hmm, i don't know how to solve your problem, i don't know much but that's what i do to get pretty much anything working
[10:15] <chuckyp> Distro^Junkie, does aao have a linux version?
[10:15] <nuked_omen> anyone else knows?
[10:15] <Seveas> greenman, depends on what you do
[10:15] <compengi> Seveas, i totaly agree, but should i do to have it :D
[10:15] <silox> nuked_omen okay thx for the help anyway
[10:15] <nuked_omen> np
[10:15] <compengi> Seveas, i totaly agree, but what should i do to have it :D*
[10:16] <greenman> Seveas: this box just sits there and serves web pages.  and does a little bit of mailing.
[10:16] <cainlevy> LjL: we're trying the shutdown. i'm going to grab lunch ... be back in 10. thanks for helping thus far.
[10:16] <silox> Distro^Junkie do u think that it could help if i reinstall AA?
[10:16] <Seveas> compengi, point your sources.list to the base archive
[10:16] <Distro^Junkie> chuckyp, the last version they made of linux was 2.5
[10:16] <compengi> Seveas, okay 1min
[10:16] <greenman> Seveas: i want to run BOINC so it can fold protiens, but they refuse to recompile a 64bit version of thier app
[10:16] <Seveas> greenman, then go32bit
[10:16] <Lightenix> soo anyone knows how to fix that apt-get? it wont even apt-get update :X
[10:17] <Seveas> Lightenix, point your sources.list to another mirror
[10:17] <greenman> Seveas: cool.  and setup, is it pretty simple?  I remember back in the day, there were a few hoops you had to jump through, but that was at least two years ago.
[10:17] <Chmd> mother of pearl has anyone received this error??? http://pastebin.ca/217736
[10:17] <compengi> !source list
[10:17] <Seveas> greenman, it's insanely easy ;)
[10:17] <Seveas> !sources.list | compengi
[10:17] <ubotu> compengi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:18] <Alakazamz0r> chad, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-83b2f9b8c18db15e641ed9e0be8f9a8364001e5b
[10:18] <wikijeff> Is there a way to startx in recovery mode as a user without root privileges?
[10:18] <greenman> Seveas: should I get the Desktop or the Server version?  I'm thinking Server, so I don't have to configure LAMP seperately...
[10:18] <LjL> cainlevy: i suggest you also try a UDP service... can't think of one that's easy to test though, right now. well, besides DNS, but we know that one works
[10:19] <Seveas> greenman, sounds like a plan
[10:19] <Dr_willis> wikijeff,  if you are in rescue mode logged in as root. use startx
[10:19] <greenman> Seveas: thanks for the help btw.
[10:19] <LjL> cainlevy: (by the way, ping uses the ICMP protocol, which is neither TCP nor UDP)
[10:19] <hoze_> Ok, i'm guessing no one uses a USB device.  In that case, can anyone recommend a decent wireless card for use with Ubuntu?
[10:19] <pike_> Chmd: you recently did apt-get update or something?
[10:20] <greenman> Seveas: one more question.  i have config files from gentoo and they are kinda convoluted, is ubuntu apache broken up into sections or one httpd.conf?
[10:20] <Chmd> yes i did
[10:20] <wikijeff> Dr_willis, is rescue mode the same as recovery mode?
[10:20] <Seveas> hoze_, anything with intel or atheros chip on a pci or pcmcia card
[10:20] <Chmd> anyway to fix it? LOL
[10:20] <compengi> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28005/
[10:20] <Seveas> greenman, ubuntu apache config is a dream 
[10:20] <pike_> Chmd: did you use the nvidia install.sh or did you install via apt-get nvidia-glx?
[10:20] <Chmd> nvidia installer
[10:20] <greenman> Seveas: :)
[10:21] <pike_> Chmd: every time you update and kernel changes youll have to redo the installer if you dont use apt-get i believe
[10:21] <Dr_willis> wikijeff,  its booting to single user mode.. they just use silly names for them
[10:21] <wikijeff> Dr_willis, ok thanks
[10:21] <greenman> Seveas: hah, one more question I guess.  which is faster, plain file or torrent?
[10:21] <Chmd> i have redone the installer and it works fine till i reboot when I reboot I get that error pasted in pastebin
[10:21] <joshier> Could someone please confirm if the MSN network is down?... it signs on (JUST) and I only have one person online
[10:21] <Seveas> greenman, depends on your luck
[10:22] <greenman> Seveas: oh?  hmm...  I have a 4M pipe, does that make a difference?
[10:22] <spdf> joshier, fine here
[10:23] <Seveas> greenman, try the normal download
[10:23] <compengi> Seveas, ?
[10:23] <LjL> Seveas, HTTP is faster, if you use axel and download from two US mirrors and 4 EU mirrors at the same time ;-P
[10:23] <greenman> okay.  :)
[10:23] <Seveas> bittorent is initially slower
[10:23] <joshier> /spdf\: thanks, I'm attempting to use www.meebo.com now
[10:23] <Seveas> before bittorrent speeds up, your fatpipe already downloaded the iso
[10:24] <Braindead> bittorrent is better on a morality level
[10:24] <joshier> /spdf\: what MSN client are you using?.. I use Gaim
[10:24] <spdf> joshier, Gaim here
[10:24] <oslo> By default, `make install' will install the package's files in`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.; where is it on kubuntu ???
[10:25] <compengi> Seveas, have you got my source list?
[10:25] <Seveas> compengi, no
[10:25] <oslo> joshier amsn
[10:25] <compengi> O.o
[10:25] <Braindead> oslo: by default you don't make install nothing on ubuntu.
[10:25] <compengi> i pasted
[10:25] <compengi> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28005/
[10:25] <Seveas> compengi, plf isdead, you should remove it
[10:26] <Seveas> apart fromthat it looks ok
[10:26] <BIRDB> Has anyone ever used ASTERISK VOPU?
[10:26] <BIRDB> VOIP*
[10:26] <compengi> Seveas, what's plf?
[10:26] <Seveas> BIRDB, easy on the caps kthxbye
[10:26] <greenman> hmm...  Server install doesn't install a GUI?
[10:26] <Seveas> compengi, 20. deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[10:26] <Seveas> greenman, correct
[10:26] <greenman> is it pretty easy to do?
[10:26] <Seveas> yes
[10:26] <Braindead> greenman: do servers need gui?
[10:26] <Seveas> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <Seveas> and you have a desktop
[10:26] <oslo> Braindead> i need to install ftp monitor [ http://queens.db.toronto.edu/~nilesh/linux/ftpmonitor/?w=download ]  but after make install all seems ok, but no way to find it, i'm lost
[10:27] <greenman> Braindead: technically no, but I like it.
[10:27] <joshier> How do I add an exception to firefox for a popup?
[10:27] <iter> BIRDB: there is an asterisk distro if you want to play with it
[10:27] <Braindead> oslo: check the makefile
[10:27] <compengi> Seveas, i only remove it?
[10:27] <Braindead> oslo: or use checkinstall
[10:27] <iter> BIRDB: also a vmware appliance
[10:27] <Seveas> compengi, yup
[10:27] <greenman> Seveas: cool, so you use apt-get for installing stuff?  kinda like emerge in gentoo?
[10:27] <Seveas> yup
[10:27] <pike_> greenman: you want a minimal desktop or gnome? your easy options are xubuntu ubuntu kubuntu
[10:27] <Braindead> greenman: might as well use aptitude from the start,instead of apt-get
[10:28] <Music_Shuffle> joshier, to allow popups for a specific site?
[10:28] <greenman> aptitude?
[10:28] <Seveas> Braindead, aptitude is slower and no longer has any advantages
[10:28] <Braindead> Seveas: that's plain FUD
[10:28] <cainlevy> LjL: back. after that reboot he can't ping anymore, and his ifconfig shows ipv6 addresses instead of ipv4. does that make the problem more or less obvious? :)
[10:28] <compengi> Seveas, i have it installed :D
[10:28] <Braindead>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html
[10:28] <greenman> pike_: i'm used to using kde, but i like like the way gnome looks.  i heard the new kde is supposed to be good, but it's not done yet is it?
[10:28] <Seveas> Braindead, that's 2004...
[10:28] <Seveas> apt-get evolved...
[10:28] <BIRDB> iter where can I get these?
[10:28] <nuked_omen> i need to create a launcher that will excute a command.. how is this possible?
[10:29] <Ackart-The-Fox> If I install the x64 version of Ubuntu, will I have an especially hard time finding drivers for all my devices?
[10:29] <nuked_omen> i created one and it says Details: Failed to execute child process "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=wintab32=n"
[10:29] <Braindead> Seveas: that's still better than plain shitty apt-get
[10:29] <compengi> Seveas, so according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia i should only install nvidia-glx-legacy right? if i don't want to compile anything
[10:29] <nuked_omen> why did Braindead leave
[10:29] <greenman> nuked_omen: he swore
[10:29] <LjL> Seveas, i think aptitude still has advantages at least until you install edgy...?
[10:29] <Seveas> nuked_omen, Imadehim leave for swearing
[10:30] <nuked_omen> so what
[10:30] <greenman> edgy?
[10:30] <Seveas> LjL, true
[10:30] <nuked_omen> don't you swear sometimes
[10:30] <LjL> !edgy > greenman
[10:30] <LjL> !language > nuked_omen
[10:30] <cyber> !language
[10:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <chuckyp> greenman, #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <Braindead> wtf ?
[10:30] <nuked_omen> he was saying his opinios
[10:30] <pike_> greenman: i dont know. havent followed either of the big environments i use either xubuntu (xfce) or flux normally
[10:30] <nuked_omen> opinion*
[10:30] <oslo> Braindead> here is my makefile, i cant find where it is ..pleaz help
[10:30] <Seveas> nuked_omen, you don't need to swear for that
[10:30] <cyber> its his opinion but language is still to be monitored :P
[10:30] <chuckyp> Braindead, you have to watch you language in here.
[10:30] <Braindead> Seveas: get aptitude-doc-en. and read it. or at least stop spreading FUD
[10:30] <Braindead> chuckyp: which word?
[10:31] <greenman> i had a very minimal one a long time ago, is that flux?
[10:31] <Seveas> Braindead, stop being soagressive
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> Flux is kinda minimal.
[10:31] <Braindead> is "bullshit" politically incorrect?
[10:31] <chuckyp> lol
[10:31] <cyber> Braindead, abbreviations count as swearing... just all be happy and keep language out of it :"P
[10:31] <pike_> greenman: possibly. id install xubuntu-desktop first then if you dont like it you can always instlall ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> ...lol
[10:31] <cainlevy> LjL: so there he was, depressed and contemplating just reinstalling windows, when his connection started working again. no idea what changed.
[10:31] <cyber> thanks Seveas
[10:32] <Music_Shuffle> cainlevy, pondering Windows is what did it.
[10:32] <greenman> ah, i remember.  i had blackbox.  so, I think i'd like flux
[10:32] <compengi> Seveas, so?
[10:32] <cainlevy> Music_Shuffle: yeah, ubuntu's getting smart these days ... "oh no, he's going to switch? ok, i'll play nice!" ;)
[10:32] <chuckyp> greenman, well you could install blackbox
[10:32] <Music_Shuffle> XD
[10:32] <chuckyp> greenman, xfce is antoher one too.
[10:33] <Music_Shuffle> What differences exist between Ubuntu and XFCE?
[10:33] <nuked_omen> !stuff
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <Music_Shuffle> They seem to be nearly the same. >.>
[10:33] <Flannel> Music_Shuffle: You mean the difference between gnome and xfce?
[10:33] <nuked_omen> the window manager is different
[10:33] <LjL> cainlevy: well, one thing - perhaps disable ipv6 for a start, unless you need it. i've heard it has caused problems before, don't know exactly why, possibly because things ended up being routed through it rather than through ipv4... or whatever. anyway, /etc/network/interfaces and make it go away is my suggestion
[10:33] <Lightenix> nope i think it is not working
[10:33] <Lightenix> well
[10:34] <Music_Shuffle> .Sigh. Right.
[10:34] <CarinArr> greenman, you'll want fluxbox.. it's more or less the same, but is still being developped
[10:34] <Lightenix> any hints how to delete in apt-get all settings or set them to default value?
[10:34] <cainlevy> LjL: will do. thanks much.
[10:34] <Flannel> Music_Shuffle: xfce uses gnome libraries, but it's more lightweight
[10:34] <pike_> greenman: fluxbox with windowmaker apps and a decent theme is pretty nice
[10:34] <nuked_omen> this room is full of newbies.. even people who help are
[10:34] <Plecebo> anyone here who might be able to help me with a dmraid problem i'm having?
[10:34] <greenman> sounds like a plan, and fluxbox is xubuntu?
[10:34] <Seveas> Flannel, xfce doesn'tusegnomelibraries
[10:34] <Flannel> Lightenix: of a package? the --purge option
[10:34] <CarinArr> greenman, er no i don't think so
[10:34] <greenman> pike_: windowmaker apps?
[10:34] <nuked_omen> rtfm people
[10:34] <Seveas> Flannel, it uses gtk, and avoids all gnomelobs
[10:34] <Seveas> libs*
[10:34] <compengi> Seveas, after i have done what's written on that site i ran the command given i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28007/
[10:34] <chuckyp> greenman, No I dont' believe fluxbox is in xubuntu
[10:35] <greenman> CarinArr: oh.  hmm...  i guess I'll play with it after i get it all installed
[10:35] <Seveas> !flubox
[10:35] <Flannel> Seveas: ah, right. gtk != gnome.
[10:35] <Seveas> !fluxbox
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flubox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:35] <CarinArr> greenman, you can just install the fluxbox package on a normal ubuntu install and choose fluxbox from the sessions at login
[10:35] <BIRDB> Does anyone know any good keyloggers that I can use to monitor my kids that work on ubuntu linux?
[10:35] <nuked_omen> !life
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Seveas> compengi, manually change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf
[10:35] <chuckyp> greenman, just do a server install then add whatever wm you want later
[10:35] <pike_> greenman: xubuntu is xfce but it might be best to install xubuntu and then fluxbox and choose between at login
[10:35] <Seveas> nuked_omen, stopplaying with the bot
[10:35] <nuked_omen> yeah, it's obvious you don't know anything about life.. you're a bot
[10:36] <nuked_omen> !me
[10:36] <assasukasse> hi all
[10:36] <chuckyp> greenman, server install will not install a window manager then you could just sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <assasukasse> if i want to build a module
[10:36] <nuked_omen> Seveas: why? it's fun
[10:36] <PSUSI> BIRDB: yes... sit behind them and observe
[10:36] <assasukasse> should i install kernel headers or kernel source
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> Y'know..some people might actually need..help.
[10:36] <iter> BIRDB: the distro is trixbox, at trixbox.org
[10:36] <iter> BIRDB: and the appliance is at http://serge.mankovski.com/voip/asteriskhome-25-vmware
[10:36] <greenman> oh, yeah.  one more question.  which is better as far as making them play well together?  ubuntu first then windows, or windows then ubuntu?
[10:36] <tamacracker> Hey guys?... quick yes or no question, does GIMP have downloadable filters/plugins?
[10:36] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does anyone know of a good simple program to merge a large number of small PCAP files into one large one?
[10:36] <Seveas> tamacracker, ys
[10:36] <Seveas> greenman, windows first, otherwise windows will destroy grub
[10:37] <Studiosus> jeeves_Moss, bash + cat?
[10:37] <LjL> tamacracker: enable universe, and then type "apt-cache search gimp plug"
[10:37] <thcrw8383> No!
[10:37] <greenman> Seveas: cool.
[10:37] <tamacracker> Seveas, last question... does our package manager have them listed? Or do we need to independently download them?
[10:37] <Stork> how do i configure a screensaver??
[10:37] <greenman> thanks a lot everyone
[10:37] <compengi> Seveas, i did the editing, and ran again the command i got the same result
[10:37] <iter> BIRDB: ah looks like trixbox now has a vmware app too
[10:37] <tamacracker> LjL beautiful, thank you :D
[10:37] <Seveas> tamacracker, the latter
[10:37] <pike_> Stork: xscreensaver-demo
[10:37] <LjL> tamacracker: of course there are a lot more that aren't packaged, though
[10:37] <tamacracker> thank you too Seveas :D
[10:37] <jeeves_Moss> Studiosus:  hummm, I'm a n00b, so I need something simple.  I was going to use Etheral, but it will only allow you to merge 2 files @ a time, and I have like 60 of them
[10:37] <greenman> you guys seem pretty friendly.  which is good cause no doubt I'll be back when i'm installing.  :)
[10:38] <nuked_omen> you feel so monitored in this room.. it's like someone babysitting you
[10:38] <nuked_omen> there is no freedom at all
[10:38] <Stork> pike_, i don't have that
[10:38] <Seveas> nuked_omen, onlyifyou misbehave
[10:38] <nuked_omen> watch your language, don't play with the bot
[10:38] <nuked_omen> don't masturbate
[10:38] <assasukasse> i need to compile an ACPI module, with only kernel headers doesn't work, should i install kernel source as well?
[10:38] <Studiosus> what means 'merge'? put contents in one file one after another?
[10:38] <chuckyp> greenman, no problem jsut come in and ask away.  Your best bet is to check out the desktop guide let me get you the link
[10:38] <Seveas> nuked_omen, you confuse freedom with misbehaving
[10:38] <treitter> does GRUB have keyboard translations? (it seems to hard-code a US keyboard, in the source I'm looking at)
[10:38] <jeeves_Moss> Studiosus:  I need to combine 60 small packet dump files into one large file.
[10:38] <chuckyp> greenman, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[10:39] <pike_> Stork: you would type that in a terminal window. i know there is a link in you gnome menus but i dont know where
[10:39] <silox> okay now I have REINSTALLED Amercans Army but it still shows "/dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory" in terminal... How can i change it to use my USB audiocard? I have disabled the internal, thats why it complains..
[10:39] <compengi> Seveas, what should i do?
[10:39] <Seveas> compengi, manually change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf <----
[10:39] <Seveas> then you don't need to run the command
[10:39] <Seveas> you only need to reboot
[10:39] <tamacracker> LjL what's the code to get all the plugins at once?
[10:39] <chuckyp> Studiosus, could you just cat file1 file2 file3 > finalfile
[10:39] <EmxBA> looks like firefox 2.0 is going to release tomorow, will it be added to repositories soon?
[10:40] <compengi> Seveas, i see, cause i ran the same command i got the same result
[10:40] <LjL> tamacracker: there is none
[10:40] <Seveas> EmxBA, it already is
[10:40] <tamacracker> apt-get gimp plug
[10:40] <chuckyp> EmxBA, its already in
[10:40] <ryanakca> does the ubuntu live cd come with audacity?
[10:40] <tamacracker> or i have to get them one by one?
[10:40] <LjL> tamacracker: just type "sudo apt-get install plugin1 plugin2 etc"
[10:40] <ryanakca> (the Dapper one)
[10:40] <compengi> Seveas, i'll reboot
[10:40] <Studiosus> for example, type something like this in terminal: for i in * ; do cat $i > /tmp/result ; done
[10:40] <Music_Shuffle> ryanakca, no
[10:40] <EmxBA> Seveas: hi seveas, let me update my package list...
[10:40] <LjL> tamacracker: no, you'll have to get them one by one. "gimp plug" is just a search term, which also shows things that really *aren't* gimp plugins
[10:40] <Seveas> ryanakca, no
[10:40] <Studiosus> sorry, for i in * ; do cat $i >> /tmp/result ; done
[10:40] <tamacracker> i understand
[10:40] <tamacracker> thank you LjL
[10:40] <Studiosus> note >> instead of >
[10:41] <jeeves_Moss> Studiosus: well, I was looking for something simplier.  It also needs to sort the entries by date/time
[10:41] <Stork> pike_, so i should install xscreensaver and remove gnome-screensaver ?
[10:41] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, well you could write your own script to do that.
[10:41] <Snake__> how safe is apt-get upgrading to edgy
[10:41] <silox> "/dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory" gets up when i try to start americans army, whats wrong?
[10:41] <EmxBA> Seveas: in which repo?
[10:41] <narayana> when i try to compile a module it says that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6/build. Where can i get this build direcotry?
[10:41] <chuckyp> Snake__, safe as replacing damn near every file in your system can be I guess
[10:41] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I'm a n00b, so I don't know what to do
[10:41] <Seveas> EmxBA, edgy, main
[10:42] <chuckyp> Snake__, backup important data first
[10:42] <EmxBA> and dapper?
[10:42] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, did you search repos or google its possible someone mad an app to do that already.
[10:42] <pike_> Stork: ah well im not familiar with gnome screensaver never used it.  so i guess i would but maybe you shouldnt :)
[10:42] <Seveas> won't get it before mozilla drops supportfor1.5
[10:42] <Studiosus> then use find (1), it has all you need and you won't need installing some application. anyway, to make use of linux you'll need to learn some shell scripting
[10:42] <Snake__> chuckyp, okie dokie
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> How soon you think they'll do that?
[10:42] <Seveas> too soon
[10:42] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  it seems odd that when I do, I can't find much.  I'm not sure if I'm doing the right syntax though
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> Heheh...tomorrow-type too soon?
[10:42] <chuckyp> Snake__, also make sure you have the ubuntu-desktop meta package install first as well.
[10:42] <Snake__> any other opinions?
[10:43] <oslo> g trouv apres un make install ce fichier: /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop comment je lance ftpmonitor ??
[10:43] <Seveas> !fr
[10:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:43] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, what kind of files where they?
[10:43] <Studiosus> try to look at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[10:43] <Studiosus> it has very good manual on shell scripting
[10:43] <Snake__> No one else to chime in??
[10:44] <pike_> silox: you could maybe add a sym link under /dev/dsp pointing to the other sound card but im sure there is a better solution
[10:44] <Studiosus> you could also do 'apt-get install abs-guide'
[10:44] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  they are CAP files.  I've been trying to capture the MAC of some one trying to WEP crack my distrubuted network.  I did a massive dump from all of my access points, and it saves the files as a *.CAP
[10:44] <Music_Shuffle> Snake__, on what?
[10:44] <Snake__> How safe a apt upgrade to edgy is
[10:44] <Snake__> from dapper
[10:44] <silox> pike_ interesting, but how do i do that :)
[10:44] <Seveas> Snake__, it's not released soit has to be considered unstable
[10:44] <alekz> hi, where is the disk administration menu on 6.10 ?
[10:44] <Seveas> but it's safe enough 
[10:44] <pike_> silox: you only have the usb sound card?
[10:44] <Snake__> Seveas, and when its released will it be much safer?? All I know is Breezy -> Dapper was hell
[10:45] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp: the problem is that the software saves a bunch of small files insted of one large file.
[10:45] <Music_Shuffle> Sorry, I haven't done it, but I think I can afford to wait a bit. Few months won't hurt anything.
[10:45] <EmxBA> so, Seveas , can i just change dapper to edgy in sources.list? :)
[10:45] <Seveas> Snake__, as long as you stick tosudo update-manager -c -d, you'll be fine
[10:45] <silox> pike_ yes ive disabled the other becaus i cant use headphones in that, the sound worked with that but not on this..
[10:45] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, http://indev.insu.com/Fwctl/pcapmerge.html
[10:45] <Snake__> Seveas, okie dokie
[10:45] <oslo> after i done a make install, trying to launch the apps, /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop , does this one can help me run ftpmonitor, 'cause i'm not finding how ???
[10:46] <pike_> silox: and if you type cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp you get no sound right?
[10:46] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, I'm sure you'd be able to find a similiar app using google if that one doesn't work.
[10:46] <Seveas> oslo, google translation doesn't really make it understandable --try #ubuntu-fr forfrench
[10:46] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  thanks guy.  I've been looking for something like this for a while now.  Hopefully I can sort through this mess and find the guy who is doing this.  I think it's a guest of an employee who waits for them in the waiting room
[10:46] <pike_> silox: i dont want to tell you do do something that might break sound
[10:47] <silox> pike_ it says that the drive is full :/
[10:47] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, How are you assuming someone is trying to crack the wep?
[10:48] <EmxBA> oh i see lots of new packages in edgy
[10:48] <oslo> Seveas> fine but the tranlation was from my own
[10:48] <chuckyp> Seveas, how is update-manager -c -d different than a apt dist-upgrade?
[10:49] <cyber> hmm
[10:49] <silox> pike_ any new ideas how i can fix this? :)
[10:49] <cyber> aircrack is in synaptic
[10:49] <Seveas> chuckyp, not everything can be expressed as apt relationships
[10:49] <cyber> lol & that
[10:49] <cyber> @**
[10:49] <kingace> hello
[10:49] <Seveas> update-manager is more intelligent
[10:49] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  there is a MASSIVE amount of misformed packets that are on the network for about an hour, then it stops.  I've gone around to look @ the differen't wireless devices, and none of the MAC address of them match the one that's causing problems.
[10:49] <pike_> silox: ok that is an odd message so im not going to lead you any further down that road :)
[10:49] <kingace> i just grabbed amaroK
[10:49] <macdo> evening, my problem for tonight : at boot, after grub, this message : 'MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IOAPIC'
[10:49] <kingace> im very new to ubuntu
[10:49] <chuckyp> Seveas, ahh gotcha so we should be telling people to use update-manager -c -d
[10:49] <Seveas> chuckyp, yes
[10:49] <compengi> !nvidia
[10:49] <kingace> and it doesnt seem to play my mp3s
[10:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <proof> ljl
[10:49] <silox> pike_ okay ^^
[10:49] <alekz> hi, where is the disk administration menu on edgy ?
[10:49] <LjL> oslo: try /usr/local/kde/bin/ftpmonitor - just a guess
[10:49] <EmxBA> oooh there is a update manager , Seveas
[10:49] <kingace> it skips through them
[10:49] <kingace> other sound works though
[10:49] <proof> i finished downloading the new ubuntu you told me to download what do i do now
[10:49] <EmxBA> update-manager -c -d installs upgrade manager for edgy
[10:49] <EmxBA> col ;)
[10:49] <macdo> then everything just stays there, no boot
[10:49] <EmxBA> *cool
[10:50] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, hrm... well when the activity start check outside and all around the building for someone that's out of place.
[10:50] <silox> pike_ any other ideas?
[10:50] <cyber> kingace, did you check synaptic? there are alot of Mp3 players & stuff :P
[10:50] <cyber> i just went through some of the stuff in there
[10:50] <Pasteurized> hi all
[10:50] <LjL> proof: well, now burn it. i usually use a command such as "cdrecord -sao -speed=16 -data filename.iso" from the console, but perhaps you might prefer a graphical program. not sure if Hoary comes with one by default
[10:50] <x80> Can anyone help me with this: i have a lucent win modem with a 2.4.29 kernel, lspci shows the modem information yet kppp keeps returning "modem is busy", can anyone help?
[10:50] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  we're localted out in the country, so there isn't much around, and other than our office, it's a "dead zone"
[10:50] <chuckyp> Seveas, they still need to change their sources.list correct?
[10:51] <proof> where do i use that command ?
[10:51] <LjL> !mpe > kingace
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <LjL> proof: in a shell. Applications / Accessories / Terminal, i think it is on Gnome
[10:51] <pike_> silox: if it were regular hardware of this were solaris maybe but im not sure how ubuntu handles that usb device
[10:51] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, hrm... yeah check out that util but most likely you could find otu who it is just by walking around.   Or you could set up a honey pot etc... there are many things to get them.
[10:51] <Pasteurized> I'm using MPD + Sonata Music Player, but I havent any sound while playing music, any idea plz ?
[10:51] <x80> Alsamixer.
[10:51] <pike_> silox: sry
[10:51] <Flannel> chuckyp: not if they update manager, no.
[10:52] <chuckyp> Flannel, ahh cool.
[10:52] <Flannel> !upgrade | chuckyp, this has all the details
[10:52] <ubotu> chuckyp, this has all the details: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:52] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  all I know is that if I find them, I'm going to smash what ever laptop or PDA they're using.
[10:52] <silox> pike_ okay thx anyway (C-Media Headphone Set) its the drivers..
[10:52] <oslo> LjL> nop
[10:53] <silox> any other who knows how to fix this audio problem?
[10:53] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  my luck is that it's some one who lives accross the street with a CANtenna
[10:53] <LjL> !checkinstall > oslo
[10:53] <compengi> Seveas, thank you very much it's working now fine :D
[10:53] <LjL> oslo: try running the make install again, using checkinstall instead. then, you'll be able to type "dpkg -L packagename" to see where all the files are
[10:53] <silox> o_O are u still there?
[10:53] <cyber> hmm
[10:54] <cyber> if i download some thing from synaptic, where would it go?
[10:54] <proof> ljl can you help me get windows xp professional
[10:54] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, yeah the only way you could really try and locate them is by some sort of signal strength meter.
[10:54] <pike_> silox: sblive cards are pretty cheap :)
[10:54] <proof> i dont wanna use linux its to hard
[10:54] <Pasteurized> x80: what should I check ?
[10:54] <cyber> because i downloaded 3 packages & they supposedly installed but i dont know where to find them :/
[10:54] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I'm tempted to go dust off my college electronics books and build one.
[10:54] <LjL> !windows
[10:54] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  -  !equivalents  -  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:54] <LjL> proof: ^^
[10:54] <x80> Terminal => alsamixer.
[10:54] <kingace> I get this error:
[10:54] <alekz> wich is the channel for edgy ?
[10:54] <kingace> Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:54] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[10:54] <NeoThermic> ..
[10:55] <x80> Press "m" to unmute selections.
[10:55] <PSUSI> cyber: you mean if you install a package but click download only?
[10:55] <silox> pike_ okay but if i can listen on music and all it should work in AA also, right? :/
[10:55] <cyber> i dont know :/
[10:55] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, kismet may be your friend for a while as well.
[10:55] <CarinArr> !edgy
[10:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:55] <NeoThermic> my ubuntu CD got so hot during install that it has melted the CD pen writing off
[10:55] <PSUSI> cyber: you don't know what?
[10:55] <cyber> i clicked the check block & then apply in the top window of synaptic
[10:55] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I still can't get that software to install.  I'm getting annoyed.  LOL
[10:55] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: holy shit.... what kind of fubar cdrom do you have?
[10:55] <NeoThermic> ah, crap. I've just installed ubuntu, and I get the message: Hard disk boot sector invalid
[10:56] <pike_> silox: ive never had a sblive problem in ubuntu that wasnt just a matter of playing witht he volume and other stuff in alsamixer
[10:56] <cyber> !language'
[10:56] <cyber> !language
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:56] <silox> pike_ okay ^^
[10:57] <macdo> no-one got any ideas abt mp-bios bug ??
[10:57] <cyber> i think it went to usr/games PSUSI
[10:57] <NeoThermic> eeep, what went wrong? :|
[10:57] <cyber> need to find where aircrack went as well :/
[10:57] <Pasteurized> x80: I didnt see anything which is muted
[10:57] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[10:57] <NeoThermic> ok, I don't think grub or equivalent was installed, any help on checking if it was and if not, how to install it?
[10:58] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, perhaps check out one of the livecd security distros most of those utilities should be installed already.
[10:58] <macdo> cyber: press alt+F2, and type the name of the program into the box
[10:58] <Flannel> !tell NeoThermic about grub
[10:58] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  one step ahead of you.
[10:58] <Flannel> NeoThermic: the first link there tells you how to reinstall (yes, its for recovering from windows, but how it got uninstalled isnt important)
[10:58] <cyber> thanks macdo
[10:59] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I'm actuly trying to design a peice of hardware for hackers that has WiFi and bluetooh cards in it along with a HDD
[10:59] <cyber> hmm
[10:59] <cyber> !hackers > cyber
[10:59] <cyber> :P
[11:00] <fbc> NeoThermic: Grubs are think worm-like larvae of beetles.
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hackers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> Hi guys...
[11:00] <cyber> the bot actually tunes u :P
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> I've got this really annoying question...
[11:00] <cyber> says i should just msg him instead of spamming :P rofl
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone here knows more about "Menu.cc: In member function 'void FbTk::Menu::update(int)':
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> Menu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'"
[11:00] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, there ya go
[11:00] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[11:01] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone?
[11:01] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  do you now how ot get ahold of the guys who do Aircrack-ng?  I've tried e-mailing them, and the accounts don't exist
[11:01] <Studiosus> AFAIK, sticky has nothing to do with ftp
[11:02] <Studiosus> sticky bit set for directories means that only owner of file can delete it, even if directory is world-writeable. very useful for /tmp
[11:02] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone here knows about installing fluxspace?
[11:02] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, not really maybe see if they have a irc channel hanging around or something like that.
[11:03] <chuckyp> !info fluxspace
[11:03] <NeoThermic> Flannel: those instructions didn't appear to work, upon booting the disk up I do not get an area to type anything, yet alone a boot: prompt. I can, however, use the CD to boot into the HD install of ubuntu; is there anything I can do from there?
[11:03] <ubotu> Package fluxspace does not exist in any distro I know
[11:03] <Captain_Fleming> chuckyp: I know about fluxspace, but I encounter an error when I "make"... :(
[11:03] <Flannel> NeoThermic: that's for the Alternate CD, you want the LiveCD/Desktop instructions
[11:03] <martynda> hi, i can't get connector/j to work in ubuntu, have libmysql-java, but it's still not working
[11:04] <NeoThermic> Flannel: ah :)
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  well, I'd just like to sudgest to them to make a GUI.  That way it's faster to use.  Don't get me wrong, the software is solid, but it's a LOT of command line stuff.
[11:04] <clandestino> Hi. How can you change the default umask with pam?
[11:04] <HeXiOn> hello
[11:05] <alekz> hi, where is the disk administration menu on edgy ?
[11:05] <Flannel> alekz: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[11:05] <alekz> thanks Flannel
[11:05] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[11:05] <HeXiOn> I have kernel freezes due my sata drive. I want to try another sata module but cannot unload my current sata module (sata_uli). It says "ERROR: Module sata_uli is in use"   HOW can I unload it?
[11:06] <NeoThermic> Flannel: I'm still a bit out of my depth here :S
[11:06] <Studiosus> does anyone knows when (if) dapper will get gcc-4.1 toolchain?
[11:06] <NeoThermic> how can I find and confirm my harddisk + boot partition numbers?
[11:06] <Flannel> fbc: Studiosus answered you, 4 mins ago, if you've a timestamp
[11:06] <abo> anyone knows how can I get the temperature of my CPU?
[11:06] <Flannel> NeoThermic: You know where you have them in linux? (hda1, hdb5, etc?)
[11:07] <NeoThermic> abo: sniff around /proc/acpi/
[11:07] <chuckyp> !info gcc
[11:07] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:07] <NeoThermic> Flannel: yeah, I can pull up `mount` to tell me
[11:07] <chuckyp> Studiosus, hrm.. well edgy has 4.1 gcc
[11:07] <Vornotron> gcc is only 64k?
[11:07] <Captain_Fleming> Ok, anyone here please knows about "Menu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'" with fluxspace?
[11:07] <Vornotron> man.
[11:07] <NeoThermic> hda1 is root
[11:07] <Flannel> Studiosus: versions will never change on a release
[11:07] <Flannel> NeoThermic: and /boot?
[11:07] <fbc> Flannel: Cool, thanks... If no one puts my nick in front of a sentence, x-chat does not highlight, and I miss it.
[11:07] <Studiosus> gcc-4.0 seems broken to me, it can't compile boost :(
[11:07] <Studiosus> and mplayer :(
[11:07] <NeoThermic> I do not see a /boot
[11:08] <abo> I "apt-get install censors-applet" but can't find it to start it, anyone can help?
[11:08] <Flannel> NeoThermic: then /boot is inside of /, so your boot partition is on hda1, which in grub speak is 0,0
[11:08] <NeoThermic> so I type root (hd0,0) ?
[11:08] <Flannel> NeoThermic: so, either hd(0,0) or hda1, depending on where you're inputting it
[11:09] <flasher> so how can one share a internet cable line with more than one computer? what is needed?
[11:09] <NeoThermic> I'm at a grub> prompt
[11:09] <Dr_willis> abo,  it a gnome panel applet?
[11:09] <Flannel> NeoThermic: yes
[11:09] <chuckyp> flasher, a router or pc with two cards
[11:09] <abo> yes
[11:09] <Dr_willis> abo,  the panelmenus often have an add to panel/applet thing
[11:09] <CarinArr> !ati
[11:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <macdo> ok, FYI: it needed a boot option: not noapic, not acpi_skip_timer_override, but acpi=off
[11:09] <dcordes> hi all
[11:09] <flasher> chuckyp: a pc with 2 cardS?
[11:09] <macdo> thanks anyway
[11:09] <Flannel> NeoThermic: whatever that howto says... I don't have it memorized ;)  but, talking to grub, (hd0,0), to linux: hda1
[11:09] <Studiosus> then, what compiler version is used to build ubuntu kernels in dapper?
[11:09] <chuckyp> flasher, pc with two nics.  one for the WAN connection (internet)  and one for the LAN connection (to go to the other pc)
[11:10] <flasher> chuckyp: oh. i don't think many people's computers have 2 nics
[11:10] <Captain_Fleming> Since no one seems to know what I'm talking about, is there a synaptec version for fluxspace?
[11:10] <Flannel> Studiosus: the same that's on dapper
[11:10] <flasher> chuckyp: if we don't have either option you speak about, it would be cheaper and easier to go buy a router, right?
[11:10] <chuckyp> flasher, no not really the other option is buying a router.  And you can find them for usually the price of a second network card.
[11:10] <osman> Hi All you Ubunters, I am wondering how to change the NIC that sshd binds to as I have added another nic and now cant shell into my box via the new NIC???
[11:10] <Studiosus> Flannel, thx
[11:11] <Flannel> Captain_Fleming: no
[11:11] <Captain_Fleming> Damn... :(
[11:11] <GhostFreeman> How long before Firefox 2 gets posted to universe?
[11:11] <chuckyp> GhoSt_DoG, its already there
[11:11] <NeoThermic> Flannel: ace, I hope this works :)
[11:11] <GhoSt_DoG> humn oO
[11:11] <flasher> chuckyp: ok. a router and some of the physical cable
[11:11] <nomasteryoda> GhostFreeman, i just insalled it ...
[11:11] <nomasteryoda> via updates
[11:11] <PSUSI> osman: iirc it binds to 0.0.0.0 ( all interfaces ) by default
[11:11] <GhostFreeman> oh
[11:12] <chuckyp> flasher, yeah internet connection will go to router  then out of the router you have a cable for each pc.  Or you could go wireless but that would require buying wireless network cards for each pc.
[11:12] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: 2.0 will never be in Dapper, only in Edgy, and it already is in main.
[11:12] <osman> why can I not shell in then via the new NIC??? PSUSI
[11:12] <GhostFreeman> oh
[11:12] <NeoThermic> Flannel: no dice, same message on boot.
[11:12] <osman> also my APACHE doesnt work via the new NIC and wont start up now, claims that it cannot bind to interface
[11:13] <crass> how do I initiate hibernate from the terminal?
[11:13] <chuckyp> flasher, I recommend a linksys router can be found at walmart kmart or most electronics stores.  And they are very easy to set up.
[11:13] <Flannel> NeoThermic: you followed those instructions on how to reinstall grub? but it didn't reinstall?
[11:13] <cogitatus> what's a safe way to remove a soft link?
[11:13] <NeoThermic> Flannel: grub said it succeeded in install
[11:13] <cogitatus> will rm <link> attempt to remove the file it's linked to?
[11:13] <Flannel> NeoThermic: what error does it give you on boot?
[11:13] <flasher> chuckyp: and cheap hopefully.
[11:14] <cyber> cogitatus,  be gentle :P
[11:14] <NeoThermic> but when I reboot, I get `Hard disk boot sector invalid`
[11:14] <NeoThermic> which sounds BIOSie :P
[11:14] <BlackTiger> want some good music listen to me.... spacesradio.com
[11:14] <XVampireX> NO
[11:14] <PSUSI> osmon: it probably isn't configured correctly
[11:14] <chuckyp> flasher, You just want to make sure what ever router you purchase has a WAN port for what you want to do.  Yeah you can get them around $50 or maybe even cheaper for a wired one instead of wireless
[11:14] <osman> cogitatus, you can remove a soft link with rm, for instance if the softlink is a dir make sure it doesnt have the / at the end and it removes the link not the dir
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: checking it out
[11:14] <PSUSI> osmon: did you assign it a unique IP address?
[11:14] <cogitatus> osman, cool. thanks.
[11:15] <flasher> chuckyp: yeah, i think i'll get a wired one.
[11:15] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: did you install grub to the MBR or the boot sector?
[11:15] <chuckyp> flasher, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3504719
[11:15] <NeoThermic> PSUSI: I've no idea
[11:15] <osman> PSUSI, well it was working untill I installed a new NIC
[11:15] <BlackTiger> Paddy it's not me on air rigth now...
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:15] <NeoThermic> how can I tell?
[11:16] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: I assume you installed grub by hand right?  what commands did you give it?
[11:16] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: do you use last.fm
[11:16] <abo> NeoThermic, the folder /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty, is that normal?  the censors applet says "no cencors"! could that be right in a new Desktop?
[11:16] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: specifically, what were the parameters to the setup command?
[11:16] <BlackTiger> nope what is that
[11:16] <osman> PSUSI, I just ssh loclahost no problem, but when i shell in from work it dosnt let me , but I could shell in a few days ago,m shit I know what it is I am working on a new vlan, my bad
[11:16] <Paddy_EIRE> http:www.last.fm/ <--its becoming very big
[11:16] <NeoThermic> at the grub prompt, I typed `root (hd0,0)` and then `setup (hd0)` and then after it said done, I typed `quit`
[11:16] <flasher> chuckyp: thanks
[11:17] <osman> PSUSI, how about apache though ??
[11:17] <chuckyp> flasher, comes with a cd to setup the router(for windows) .   Although you don't really need the cd.  You just plug in the router according to the directions and to you pc.  THen you go to http://192.168.0.1  in your browser to configure it.
[11:17] <flasher> 50 dollars. i wish there was something for less
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: oops its actually http://www.last.fm/
[11:17] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: do you have multiple disk drives?
[11:17] <chuckyp> flasher, I'm sure there is. if you hunt around like bestbuy or circuit city.
[11:17] <flasher> good idea, chuckyp
[11:17] <PSUSI> osman: no idea
[11:18] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: there is a linux version and amarok also works with it
[11:18] <chuckyp> flasher, i've seen cheaper.  I jsut prefer the linksys for ease of use.   And availibility but there are many others you can try.
[11:18] <BlackTiger> but what is lat.fm
[11:18] <NeoThermic> PSUSI: physical drives there's only one, partitions, I had 786M for swap, and 17.88G for root, which is the whole 20G allocated.
[11:18] <czedlitz> how do you start another x server say on display 1?
[11:18] <cyber> any way
[11:18] <cyber> night all
[11:18] <cyber> thanks for anothere day of support
[11:19] <francesco8-> hello
[11:19] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: strange.... maybe you do have some whacked out bios?
[11:19] <chuckyp> flasher, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6359353&st=cable+router&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=1077624215034
[11:19] <flasher> chuckyp: my comp is ubuntu, and the other person's is windows. any router that works with win also works with linux, yes?
[11:19] <dijungal> how do i get thunderbird to minimze  to the system tray (prolly not called that in ubuntu)
[11:19] <dijungal> ?
[11:20] <NeoThermic> PSUSI: I hope not. :\
[11:20] <NeoThermic> how can I check/tell? :P
[11:20] <francesco8-> well, I killed amsn but it doesn't open anymore until I restart the system, what can I do?
[11:20] <BlackTiger> i don't know what it is but looks like a good site.... to get some info
[11:20] <chuckyp> flasher, yeah like I said you don't really need the cd that comes with it.  Most can be configured through an internet browser.  And they will work regardless of the operating system
[11:20] <BlackTiger> is it a radio station???
[11:20] <flasher> chuckyp: can we use a wireless router for wired pcs?
[11:20] <flasher> PCs?
[11:20] <flasher> example http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10080256&catid=21115
[11:21] <chuckyp> flasher, if it has wired ports
[11:21] <flasher> i see
[11:21] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: not sure...
[11:21] <francesco8-> can anybody help me?
[11:22] <chuckyp> flasher, yes that one would work because it has 4 wired ports
[11:22] <chuckyp> flasher, Four 10/100M Auto-Negotiation LAN RJ-45 ports.
[11:22] <chuckyp> !ask > francesco8-
[11:22] <flasher> One 10/100M Auto-Negotiation WAN RJ-45 port <--- means Wireless?
[11:23] <francesco8-> see above, chuckyp
[11:23] <francesco8-> "well, I killed amsn but it doesn't open anymore until I restart the system, what can I do?"
[11:23] <chuckyp> flasher, no that is the WAN port that is where your current cable modem would plug in to.
[11:23] <flasher> oh.
[11:23] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:23] <stephans> I can't get ubuntu to recognize the proper 1920X rezolution of my monitor
[11:23] <flasher> so the cable in the wall plugs into the cable modem. and the cable modem plugs into router.
[11:24] <francesco8-> I want to open any killed program without restart the system..
[11:24] <Sp4rKy> please i've command 50CD's 26th of August and i don't have receive them
[11:24] <stephans> How can you force a resolution?
[11:24] <chuckyp> francesco8-, try killall -9 amsn in terminal then try opening it.  Its possible you have a hung process
[11:24] <chuckyp> flasher, yeap
[11:24] <chuckyp> flasher, then the pc plug in to the router.
[11:25] <stephans> Is there anyone who knows how to force a resolution in ubuntu?
[11:25] <francesco8-> it doesn't work, chuckyp
[11:25] <chuckyp> francesco8-, what doesn't work?
[11:25] <PSUSI> stephans: ctrl-alt-+/- should change resolutions on the fly
[11:26] <PSUSI> stephans: otherwise edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:26] <chuckyp> stephans, you can dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions you want.
[11:26] <francesco8-> I've "killall -9 amsn" but when I try to open amsn it doesn't open
[11:26] <Sp4rKy> please, what's the simpliest way if i want create a mirror of official main/universe repository ?
[11:26] <chuckyp> francesco8-, okay ps aux | grep amsn   what is the output of that.
[11:26] <Sp4rKy> and what's the size of it ?
[11:26] <flasher> chuckyp: i've just remembered. i have a Dell 2350 wireless broadband router. i'm looking at the back right now, and there are 4 ports, named LAN 1, LAN 2, etc. this will work for wired internet sharing, yes?
[11:27] <chuckyp> flasher, does it have a WAN port?
[11:27] <francesco8-> chuckyp, it's a bit long..should I past here?
[11:27] <francesco8-> what value to you want to know?
[11:27] <willwork4foo> hiya
[11:28] <chuckyp> francesco8-, did it return anything  "ps aux | grep amsn"
[11:28] <chuckyp> francesco8-, more than one line?
[11:28] <francesco8-> yes
[11:28] <stephans> ok thakn you
[11:30] <flasher> chuckyp: there's a port that is labeled "internet".
[11:30] <chuckyp> flasher, yes that will work then.
[11:30] <Siph0n> if i have a portable usb hard drive, can i put the ubuntu installer on it, and then have my computer boot from the usb hard drive? cause i dont have a cdrom drive in my laptop
[11:30] <diederik_nld> hello everyone
[11:30] <flasher> chuckyp: perfect! thanks
[11:31] <flasher> no need to buy a router
[11:31] <chuckyp> exactly
[11:31] <chuckyp> flasher, you should be able to use that.
[11:31] <flasher> chuckyp: so do we need to put the setup cd into the win computer?
[11:31] <francesco8-> do you know how to do chuckyp?
[11:31] <flasher> if the computers are working fine in regards to internet?
[11:32] <LoudMouthMan> evening all , apologies in advance for just crashing in with a question.
[11:32] <LoudMouthMan> pop quiz for the lazy cause I cant be bothered to dig out my documentation on this .. so sorry ! but in choosing a openpgpkey should I choose RSA or DSA ..
[11:32] <chuckyp> flasher, well if you want to use the setup cd yes mostlikely you will need to put it int he windows computer and follow the directions.
[11:33] <chuckyp> francesco8-, how many lines did it return?
[11:33] <flasher> if the windows comp is able to use internet without a router, is it still necesarry to use the setup cd?
[11:34] <chuckyp> flasher, what is plugged in to the windows pc the cable modem?
[11:34] <flasher> chuckyp: yes
[11:35] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my ethernet card can't get a lease from my router
[11:35] <francesco8-> chuckyp, 20
[11:35] <chuckyp> flasher, yeah still follow the directions because the cable modem needs to be plugged in to the internet port ont eh router then the computers will plug into the router.  That way you could have up to four computers using the same cable modem connection.
[11:35] <kmaynard> i never had a problem dual booting when connected directly to a cable modem. the problem came when i tried to attach a new device to the modem. modems bind to the mac address of one NIC at a time
[11:35] <chuckyp> francesco8-, can you put the output on pastebin
[11:35] <chuckyp> !pastebin
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:35] <chuckyp> francesco8-, just copy and paste
[11:36] <flasher> chuckyp: when you say follow directions, what do you mean? you mean the order of phsyicall connections? or do you mean that installing the SetUp cd on the windows computer is needed?
[11:36] <francesco8-> here or with a past site?
[11:36] <francesco8-> ok pastebin
[11:36] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[11:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:36] <francesco8-> ;)
[11:36] <finalbeta> kmaynard , I did have that problem, I had to release my IP address before I booted in the other OS. (ISP telenet)
[11:37] <dmglouis> can someone tell me how to change the search address 255.255.255.255 for restaring networking to my router IP?
[11:37] <chuckyp> flasher, the directions that came with the router.  If you don't have those check out what the install cd says.  If not you may have to call dell support.  They are very good at supporting their products
[11:37] <chuckyp> dmglouis, ifconfig is what you are looking for.  or network-manager
[11:37] <fatsheep> has anyone got the nsplugin wrapper working well with 64-bit firefox?
[11:38] <dmglouis> chuckyp: i've tried ifconfig, and all that shows is that i dont have IP assigned to eth0
[11:38] <chuckyp> dmglouis, what do you need to do specify the ip or do you get one automatically from the router via DHCP?
[11:38] <dmglouis> ckuckyp: and network managers no help because with IP i cant even ping
[11:39] <dmglouis> chuckyp: dhcp, but that only happens if I restart the computer completely
[11:39] <dmglouis> chuckyp: if I restart just networking, I lose the IP address
[11:39] <flasher> chuckyp: i have the instructions. it says before connecting stuff, install cd on windows comp
[11:39] <chuckyp> dmglouis, ifdown eth0  then ifup eth0  should re dhcp
[11:39] <flasher> chuckyp: i'm curious, what if neither computer was windows?
[11:39] <dmglouis> chuckyp: and even with the assigned IP address, i cant ping the router
[11:40] <kmaynard> reset the modem, unplug and re=plug the router
[11:40] <francesco8-> pastebin is very slow..
[11:40] <chuckyp> flasher, if neither pc was windows you would have to hope that the router has a internet configuration via browser.  You would hook it up according to the directions then browse to the routers ip address http://192.168.0.1  or 192.168.1.1  whatever that may be then set it up manually.
[11:40] <flasher> oh i see
[11:41] <chuckyp> dmglouis, has this router ever worked?
[11:41] <chuckyp> dmglouis, and network card for that matter
[11:41] <dmglouis> chuckyp: this reassigning thing is the problem because it looks for dhcp leases on IP address 255.255.255.255, whereas my router IP is 192.168.2.1
[11:41] <dmglouis> chuckyp: yea, the routers working right now, because im on a comp on the netwokr
[11:41] <chuckyp> dmglouis, but if you restart it works fine?
[11:42] <kmaynard> when all else fails, hit it with a hammer
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: yes, the network card has worked in the past
[11:42] <chuckyp> dmglouis, well then just restart
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: if i restart, i only get an IP address
[11:42] <chuckyp> kmaynard, lol
[11:42] <francesco8-> chuckyp, http://rafb.net/paste/results/FHqnEF66.html
[11:42] <francesco8-> here it is
[11:42] <chuckyp> dmglouis, what ip address do you get?  is it in the same range i.e. 192.186.2.100  ???
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: it still cant ping the router
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: yea, i get 192.168.2.132
[11:43] <tfr> Jaki program do kamerek internetowych?
[11:43] <chuckyp> francesco8-, okay sudo killall amsn
[11:43] <tech_> How do you registers your userame?  I have read the web page but it assumes I know what they mean.
[11:43] <chuckyp> dmglouis, does internet work though?
[11:43] <tech_> ...for xChat that is.
[11:43] <dmglouis> chuckyp: no
[11:43] <chuckyp> dmglouis, can you ping other pcs on the network?
[11:43] <dmglouis> chuckyp: i cant even ping the router
[11:44] <dmglouis> chuckyp: no
[11:44] <tnnc> trying to use ssh Xforwarding i can get to box then try to run command like firefox& but saids it cant open display any ideas
[11:44] <francesco8-> "amsn: no process killed" rotfl
[11:44] <chuckyp> !ssh > tnnc
[11:44] <iturk> my friends i need to configure a joystick its a speed link USB and i have follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28538.html but i cannot see /dev/input/js0 and i have this in my dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/217770. I dont know how to tell it to load at boot. how can i do that ??
[11:44] <chuckyp> francesco8-, wtf... killall -9 amsn
[11:45] <francesco8-> the same thing..
[11:45] <dmglouis> does anyone know how to change the IP address being searched for dhcp leases?
[11:45] <dmglouis> because I think thats he problem
[11:45] <chuckyp> francesco8-, okay well kill them by pid
[11:45] <ZeN> I need help installing ubuntu or xubuntu (or any goddamned distro at this point) on my Lime/White Tray Load iMac G3
[11:46] <iturk> also i have compile the kernel by myself its not the default one from linux maybe i need to activate something can someone help ??
[11:46] <chuckyp> francesco8-, kill 20931   kill 29943   kill 7231        kill 9127
[11:46] <iturk> i mean from ubuntu
[11:46] <chuckyp> francesco8-, or reboot
[11:47] <chuckyp> dmglouis, thats just plain goofy because dhcp is working if you are getting a ip on that same range.
[11:47] <dmglouis> i know
[11:47] <rag> please for start wifi on boot for ipw2200
[11:47] <kmaynard> prolly a gateway or DNS problem
[11:47] <lucas> hello people
[11:47] <francesco8-> well I wouldn't prefer to reboot, but in any case..
[11:48] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules?
[11:48] <rag> is ok?
[11:48] <lucas> somebody here try install de new firefox 2.0 ?
[11:48] <iamtheric> !ion4
[11:48] <chuckyp> yeah it could be gateway or dns
[11:48] <spdf> ZeN, any specific errors?
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ion4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <chuckyp> dmglouis, what is the output of ifconfig eth0
[11:48] <fatsheep> lucas: no I heard it's quite unstable
[11:48] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?
[11:48] <kmaynard> lucas, i run FF 2
[11:48] <francesco8-> thanks for your time chuckyp
[11:48] <fatsheep> any stability problems?
[11:48] <chuckyp> francesco8-, well if you kill all those processes you should be okay
[11:49] <ZeN> spdf, you see, I can't even get it to boot from the CD, despite the fact that its IS new world and I can enter OF
[11:49] <dmglouis> i cant pastebin, that comp doesn't have internet access
[11:49] <lucas> kmaynard, the final version?
[11:49] <chuckyp> francesco8-, System > Administration > System Monitor      You could try killing them there.
[11:49] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?
[11:49] <kmaynard> lucas, no, RC 3
[11:49] <iamtheric> !ion3
[11:49] <chuckyp> francesco8-, the amsn processes that is.
[11:49] <ubotu> ion3: keyboard-friendly window manager with tiled windows (devel). In component universe, is extra. Version 20060107-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1322 kB, installed size 3448 kB
[11:49] <spdf> ZeN, you've downloaded the correct iso?
[11:49] <lucas> when i'm tryngr run the final version
[11:49] <kmaynard> lucas, it'ss be final when it's updated tho
[11:49] <iamtheric> kmaynard, you a sub teacher?
[11:49] <lucas> i had any fault =/ "Segment fault" at ./run-mozilla.sh, in line 131
[11:49] <kmaynard> iamtheric, nope
[11:50] <ZeN> yes, and verified the MD5
[11:50] <lucas> somebody had same errors?
[11:50] <ZeN> and burned it correctly (not a data disc, image on the CD)
[11:50] <dmglouis> here: i put the output of network restart on pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28009/
[11:50] <kmaynard> lucas, the the RC 3 tarball from mozilla.com, put it in /opt, unpack it, then run /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:50] <ZeN> and burned it at 24x, 16x and 4x
[11:50] <kmaynard> oh, and get ownership of it so you can update it
[11:50] <lucas> not overwrite de old files?
[11:51] <kmaynard> lucasm i still have the official ubuntu build, but if they ever switch to iceweasel i'm removing that
[11:51] <francesco8-> there are no processes with amsn..
[11:51] <lucas> i'm try removing de old firefox
[11:51] <francesco8-> It's very strange..
[11:51] <lucas> but not have sucess =/
[11:51] <iamtheric> !dillo
[11:51] <ubotu> dillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB
[11:52] <ZeN> It's currently got OS9 on it, and I'm wondering if I should be able to mount the CD
[11:52] <ZeN> while in OS9
[11:52] <kmaynard> lucas, do what i said, then edit your menu links to point to the version in /opt/firefox
[11:52] <ZeN> it says that the disk is "unreadable by this computer"
[11:52] <francesco8-> ciao angelo
[11:52] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?
[11:52] <lucas> in a synaptic when i'm tryng remove the firefox of the ubuntu... his try remove other packages
[11:52] <lucas> =/
[11:53] <lucas> like ubuntu-desktop and others
[11:53] <angelo> ciao francesco8-
[11:53] <kmaynard> lucas, then dont remove the old one
[11:53] <PulsatingPenguin> ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove AFAIK, as long as you put it back
[11:54] <iturk> my friends i need to configure a joystick its a speed link USB and i have follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28538.html but i cannot see /dev/input/js0 and i have this in my dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/217770. I dont know how to tell it to load at boot. how can i do that ??
[11:54] <PulsatingPenguin> it's just a dependency list I think
[11:54] <PulsatingPenguin>  a list of packages rather
[11:54] <spdf> ZeN, Hmm.. so, assuming you've burned the ppc iso, it should be a matter of rebooting and holding down the c key..
[11:54] <lucas> kmaynard: it does not have a mode to remove only firefox?
[11:54] <ZeN> done it
[11:54] <ZeN> also tried cmd + opt + shift
[11:54] <ZeN> cmd + opt + c
[11:55] <ZeN> etc, etc
[11:55] <Enselic> How can I get firefox to play sound of streaming media *wihtout* having to have the windowed focused that is streaming the audio
[11:55] <lucas> yes, had some dependency packages, when i need remove only firefox, not other packages =/
[11:56] <ZeN> I can however enter Open Firmware via cmd + opt + o +f and I can reset my PRAM with cmd + opt + p + r
[11:56] <cbx33> lucas, ignore my problems from before....and sorry to bother you I have fixed it all now...was my fault ;)
[11:56] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice image compressor ?
[11:56] <spdf> ZeN, Hmm.. Do you have an OS9 cd hanging around?
[11:57] <ZeN> no, but I do have an OSX CD
[11:57] <ZeN> and I can boot from it
[11:57] <ZeN> by the way, when I try holding C (or any of the boot from CD key sequences) it hangs for a few seconds extra, as if it is trying to boot from the CD but doesn't know what to do with the data on the CD.
[11:58] <hikenboot> hello all as root I can run direct rendering: yes as a normal user booting thru gdm I cant get direct rendering working...it does not appear to be a rights issue...any ideas? Its on ubuntu with the ubuntu nvidia-glx drivers and nvidia-glx-de
[12:00] <togge> this is a long shot, but does anyone know how to stream video from dvb-t to i.e an xbox ?