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lguerraRiched: ping04:07
neurogeek!seen mhz04:16
ubotuI haven't seen mhz recently04:16
jsgotangcolguerra: he's most likely asleep at this time04:17
lguerrajsgotangco: tks04:19
lguerraneurogeek: What you need mhz? I tomorrow speak with him, desire that tell him something?  04:20
neurogeeklguerra, oh thanks.. please tell him that i've been madly looking for him.. i need to speak with him 04:21
lguerraneurogeek: ok.04:22
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lguerrahighvoltage, Who can collaborate me to change the wikiname in the wiki official?  05:14
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lguerraneurogeek: ping05:21
neurogeeklguerra, hello05:29
stelisnixternal: I've finished this section: http://www.elsn.org/downloads/edubuntu/drafts/p4-docandsup.xml06:05
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keltorsorianybody here have experience with ppc clients?07:01
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keltorsorigood evening07:02
keltorsorianyone have any experience with ppc clients?07:02
keltorsorii've got a bead on a lab full of imacs and want to use them as ltsp clients. i assume i need to build a new chroot with ppc?07:03
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highvoltagemorning edubuntuland08:02
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RichEdhey jono10:08
RichEdEditing your LoCo page at the moment.10:08
jonocool :)10:08
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willvdljsgotangco, hey10:18
willvdlhttp://www.innovateonline.info/ OSS features for OCt/Nov10:23
jsgotangcothis is nice!10:24
jsgotangcowillvdl: i should subscribe here10:36
willvdlit is very nice 10:36
willvdlHow many folk in the UK are familiar with http://www.intute.ac.uk/ ?10:37
stelisI haven't heard of them10:38
stelisI know of OSS Watch10:38
stelisFundined by JISC10:38
stelisBut that's never really caught fire10:38
stelisOh, right10:39
stelisThis is for general Web resources10:40
stelisLike a kind of DMOZ for academia10:40
willvdlyip. will have to go through it.10:44
willvdlstelis, familiar with EDNA?10:45
stelisMy first thought was that search engine integration for this would rock10:45
steliswillvdl: No, fraid not10:45
willvdlAussie edu network. Apparantly it is the bomb, from content to libraries to resources to management to authoring...10:46
stelisIs this material available to poms?10:46
willvdldon't know really.10:49
willvdlmight not be relevant 10:50
willvdlbut the portal/structure/methadology is very very interesting10:50
jsgotangcothese links are nice10:52
stelisGot to run...train to catch10:57
stelisBye all10:57
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highvoltageogra: do you know who's working on the release announcement?11:13
RichEdhighvoltage: I think silbs is putting together an Ubuntu and Edubuntu and Kubuntu general release11:14
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ograRichEd, are you sure ? 12:45
ogra* Languages: zh es bn hi ar xh pt ru ja de 12:46
RichEdogra: I will confirm with her now, but she asked me / you for 3 top features for Edubuntu 6.06 yesterday12:46
ograpitti just added a ton of langpacks to the CDs :)12:46
ograRichEd, i know, but i thought for final we'd have separate notes 12:46
jsgotangcoogra: we seem to have space lately12:46
ogra~15M on i386 12:46
RichEdogra: sorry please expand on that comment ^^ ?12:47
jsgotangcoI was surprised to see the build w/o langpacks at 650+MB12:47
ograRichEd, i thought we'd do combined notes for the milestone releases, but for the final one we'd have separate release notes12:47
jsgotangcoWow edubuntu rel notes would be way different because of ltsp12:51
ograubuntu release notes will have a lot about ltsp already i guess12:51
ograso we can only put up the integration bit here12:52
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RichEdogra: I am asking Silbs who is coordinating Edgy press releases, and then will find out (1) what is already planned and (2) ask for advance copies. We can then discuss what gaps need to be addressed. 01:02
RichEdogra: We can plan a full detailed release for our mail lists, and then use that info in different formats for other outlets.01:02
ograno, lets have something thats consistent, lets not do douplicated work01:03
ograif we have a combined announcement, lets just point to it on our lists ... else lets make sure it also goes there and not only to the announce list01:04
jsgotangcoSo the relnotes/announce are now done at the office?01:05
RichEdjsgotangco: I am confirming ...01:06
jsgotangcoMuch less work heh01:07
ograwell ....01:07
ograalso much less info about what we improved in a combined announcement ... (do dont have as much space)01:08
jsgotangcoyeah...its not like most people know the innards01:08
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highvoltagehowdy bddebian!03:50
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sbalneavMorning all03:50
highvoltagegood afternoon sbalneav 03:51
sbalneavHey highvoltage!03:51
highvoltagesbalneav: have you ever seen a udev error message on the clients while booting?03:52
highvoltageI came across that error during testing the past weekend, but it doesn't seem like anyone else have seen it before.03:52
highvoltageI'm hoping that it was just a unique glitch03:53
sbalneavWhat was the error?03:53
bddebianHello highvoltage, sbalneav03:54
sbalneavHello bddebian03:55
highvoltagesbalneav: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/6738303:55
ograhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20061024.3/ <-- if thats not broken it will be the release :)04:03
highvoltageogra: this isn't a problem in edgy anyore, righ? so it can be resolved?04:04
highvoltageogra: this isn't a problem in edgy anyore, righ? so it can be resolvedhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/4730404:04
ograyeah, its sdolved, even thin clients should have the right cursor after boot now04:06
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highvoltageogra: the education icon that was missing, could that be solved in time?04:11
ograbut in an upgrade04:13
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sbalneavrsyncer.sh for the win!04:27
highvoltagesbalneav: I believe the correct term these days is ftw04:27
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juliuxhighvoltage, ping04:38
RichEdhey juliux, sbalneav 04:38
juliuxhi RichEd 04:39
juliuxso my edgy update is finished without a problem04:39
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highvoltagejuliux: pong04:52
juliuxhighvoltage, you said a long time ago that i should create/install something on my server for edubuntugirl but i forgot it04:52
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highvoltagejuliux: this is a strange co-incidence, I was just busy installing edubuntu girl stuff right now on another server04:54
highvoltagejuliux: we'll have her back shortly :)04:54
juliuxhighvoltage, ah ok04:54
juliuxhighvoltage,  i saw your account today on my server and i was wondering because you loged in only one time;)04:55
highvoltagejuliux: really? i remember loggin g in more.04:56
juliuxhighvoltage, ok one or two times04:56
juliuxhighvoltage, i have the rest of the logs on an other computer;)04:56
highvoltage9two might be right. I couldn't do much without those modules :/04:57
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nixternalhey, where are all of the Edubuntu docs stored and worked on?  not talking about the handbook, but rather the About Edubuntu, Release Notes, Desktop Guides, and the Browser Start Page?05:16
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cbx33nixternal, are they not i nthe doc repo?06:04
nixternalnot that i can tell, i went ahead and grabbed the source, edited the file, added info to the changelog, and then created a debdiff, attached it to a bug i just filed06:04
nixternalogra_ or anyone who can fix it ->  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/6800206:07
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cbx33ogra did you get my updated usplash06:09
ograyes, its in06:09
ogranixternal: sorry, my gaim crashed ... what was the bug number ?06:09
ograoh, thats fixed long ago ... some time before RC06:11
nixternali also noticed the edubuntu-artwork package is using Standards-Version: 3.6.7 instead of 3.7.2..i didn't build with the new standards, as I figured I would leave that up to the professionals06:11
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nixternalwell, the title is still wrong, even in the source i downloaded today06:12
ograwe cant rebuild the CDs anymore 06:12
ograunless there is a heavy blocker06:12
cbx33so this is it?06:13
cbx33did we get everything done?06:13
ograand your dendiff only contains a changelog entry06:13
cbx33that's what I thought too06:13
nixternalmine shows the edits06:13
cbx33nixternal, check the LP page one06:14
nixternalya, that isn't even close to being the same06:14
nixternallp did that06:14
nixternali know why..i didn't select "patch"06:16
nixternalnow check it out06:17
cbx33that's better06:17
ograright :)06:17
cbx33nixternal, did we sort out about the images in the handbook repo?06:18
ograif we have to rebuild the CDs for some reason i'll try to get it in, else it will have to wait for -updates06:18
nixternalkind of funny how it was being rendered as a webpage just by not selecting patch..that was cool06:18
cbx33ogra, how is the mood now?06:18
cbx33I mean ubuntu wise06:18
cbx33gearing down a little?06:18
nixternalscpdisconnect.jpg  scpexec.jpg  scpkill.jpg  scpmain.jpg  scpmess.jpg  scpprocs.jpg06:19
nixternalthose are the images i see there06:19
nixternalthat are in the binaryredneck svn06:19
nixternali have those, and then some in the doc repo svn, such as the Edubuntu logos06:19
cbx33right....but in my scp doc....do I just link relative to those image names06:20
nixternalthat is fine06:21
nixternali can do any fixing necessary if the dir structure changes at all06:21
nixternalim hoping to call a meeting concerning the handbook, there is no way it will be out for Edgy, and trying to do so would be a huge mistake, i think it needs some time right now, to pick up more content06:22
nixternali think if we were to finish every section we have planned, it would still be naked06:22
nixternalRichEd: ^^  about another Handbook meeting if possible06:23
nixternali shall return..i have to sign some documents to provide the government for my educational benefits ;)  bbiaf06:23
sbalneavI agree, but is there any chance of posting what content there is as html pages, or wiki pages somewhere?06:23
sbalneavThere's some useful LTSP info in there that it would be handy to be able to refer people to.06:24
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cbx33nixternal, you gone?06:24
sbalneav\o/ for -bigiron kernel!  Now my x3550 Ibm server can see all 5 gigs of ram!06:27
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nixternalim here, 06:31
nixternalpreparing some faxes now06:31
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ogra-thinlooks good :)06:32
nixternalmoinmoin2docbook is there, just not to good right now..we are working with that, as it is a Google SoC project06:34
nixternali don't see why we wouldn't be able to convert the pages into something useful though..i will look into that06:34
sbalneavnixternal: It wouldn't be that hard: an exercise in text processing.06:42
sbalneavCould probably get close with a 40 line awk program.06:43
sbalneavogra-thin: You're already a skinny dude.06:43
sbalneavPhhht: IBM "We recommend Red Hat Enterprise Linux for our xServer line"06:44
sbalneavNuts to that, says I :)06:44
cbx33sbalneav, ++06:47
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nixternalsbalneav: no need to script anything, there are plenty of applications to do what we need, xml to html is easy, and i already have the scripts to do that, i also have a fop connection to export docbook to pdf as well06:51
nixternalanywho, lunch time...bbiab06:52
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keltorsorianyone running any ppc clients?08:12
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keltorsorianyone actually here today?09:57
LaserJockI am09:58
keltorsorianyone noticed that terminal users on an xubuntu ltsp setup can shutdown the main system?09:58
keltorsoriseems like a serious problem09:58
pygikeltorsori: the same problem with gnome existed/exists09:59
keltorsorinew edubuntu allows users only to log off (6.10), no shutdown or hibernate options10:00
pygikeltorsori: I know :)10:01
pygiyou could do the same in dapper with tweaking10:01
keltorsorithis is a problem with xfce?10:01
pygino, with it's configuration10:02
pygiperhaps you could also tweak it10:02
keltorsoriwhich by the way, i just got a couple of norhtec microclient jrs (http://norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html) for testing out. these things are absolutely ridiculously tiny and pxe boot out of the box just fine10:03
keltorsoripygi: any pointers towards where i might find the configuration info needed to fix this?10:03
pygikeltorsori: #xubuntu ^_^10:04
pygikeltorsori: gconf keys10:04
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keltorsoripygi: thanks, i tried the xubuntu chann, nobody there knows anything, but i think i can figure it out10:04
pygikeltorsori: start the gconf-editor pls ^_^10:05
keltorsorixubuntu only has xfce, no gnome10:06
pygioh, oh, right , sorry :P10:06
keltorsorithanks though:)10:06
pygino worries, if only I could help you :P10:06
pygikeltorsori: if you're willing to instruct. we could make xfce behave better on feisty ^_^10:06
keltorsoripygi: well when i get it figured out, i'll let everyone know10:08
pygioki, thanks ^_^10:08
keltorsoritoo bad i didn't catch this earlier10:08
pygiyea :(10:08
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_MMA_Hello guys.10:30
_MMA_I have a question.10:30
_MMA_Im working on Ubuntu Studio. I need to setup a custom default setup on install using Gnome.10:31
Burgwork_MMA_: you need to create meta packages10:33
_MMA_Meaning we arent using the same one as Ubuntu. We want to change it. Any direction is appreciated.10:33
BurgworkI suggest you talk to the #ichthux people10:33
_MMA_Do they stray from the default layout?10:33
_MMA_Are they on Freenode?10:33
_MMA_Ill do that.10:34
Burgworkthey do KDE, so they can help you with the meta packages10:34
_MMA_Im using Gnome.10:34
Burgworkfor the gnome specific bits, you need to look into edubuntu-artwork and ubuntu-artwork10:34
_MMA_They sent me elsewhere. :) Im kinda chasing my tail.10:35
Burgworkwhat do you need?10:35
Burgworkchanged artwrok?10:35
Burgworkapplications installed by default?10:36
Burgworkthe latter icthux can help you with10:36
Burgworkthe former, you need to look at edubuntu and ubuntu-artwork (the actual package)10:36
_MMA_to change art and how the default environment looks.10:37
Burgworkwhat parts?10:37
Burgworkpanel? menu?10:37
_MMA_ie: Ubuntu-Gnome has 2 panels by default. We want 1.10:37
Burgworkthat is slightly harder10:37
BurgworkI don't know why you want to change that much10:38
_MMA_I just kinda need to know what package installs the defaults.xml file, I can edit that.10:38
Burgworkfor the panel? gnome-panel10:39
Burgworkbut then you run into the issue that ubuntu-studio should be in tree, not some custom hack10:39
Burgworkif you change the gnome-panel package, you have issues10:39
Burgworkit means you cannot insatll ubuntu and ubuntu-studio alongside10:40
Burgworkdo you guys have an irc channel?10:40
_MMA_#ubuntustudio Freenode.10:40
Burgworklets  move there10:40
LaserJock_MMA_: I'm an Ichthux person 10:46
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mhzhey ya'all10:50
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schoolinuxHi,Is edgy coming this week?11:22
schoolinuxwhen exactly? i think it was set to 26th oct. means tomorrow, right?11:24
Burgworktomorrow in your timezone, maybe11:27
schoolinuxBugwork where can i find something about features in edubuntu 6.10?11:28
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edgarinHi to all11:45
edgarinI have a problem with a Edubuntu11:45
edgarinthe computer dont boot11:45
edgarinand the grub shows a error 2411:45
edgarinwhat is this?11:46
BonBonTheJonedgarin: has this computer worked before11:50
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