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cpk2MadRabbit320: if you want to move sound files into /usr/share/sounds the easiest way i know of is to use a terminal12:11
morghanphoenixOnly time I've tried dist-upgrade was in slackware and I needed to reinstall after that fiasco.12:11
cpk2and do "sudo mv sound1.wav /usr/share/sounds12:11
cpk2sound1.wav obviously is wahtever sound file you have12:12
MadRabbit320morghanphoenix: /usr must be root...I don't know how to turn into a root to copy my sounds into there,  figure it's a su"something" to do it...12:12
Kr4t05MadRabbit320: sudo su12:12
morghanphoenixsudo mv, like cpk said12:12
morghanphoenixsu doesn't work on kubuntu unless you give root it's own password12:13
morghanphoenixha12:13
cpk2you dont need to enter a root konsole just to move something lol12:13
morghanphoenixsudo su12:13
MadRabbit320mv="move"?12:13
cpk2MadRabbit320: yes12:13
morghanphoenixyes12:13
MadRabbit320ok, things are getting a little less foggy12:14
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belsebub_after installing dapper, booting to recovery mode gives you root access... is that changed in edgy? very curious about this :)12:15
virtexhmmm none of the screensavers work... anyone got any ideas for that one ?12:15
MadRabbit320can I su in konq to move them?12:15
morghanphoenixI'm not sure where is was, but there was a ubuntu help page for screensavers12:16
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morghanphoenixI had to use it to get any of them working, and even after half of them didn't show up on my list.12:16
morghanphoenixI wanted the xmatrix screensaver, was that too much to ask?12:17
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morghanphoenixWorks fine in gnome, just won't run in KDE.12:17
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daskreechMadRabbit320: You can kdesu konqueror :)12:18
daskreechmorghanphoenix: What does it do?12:18
morghanphoenixeh?12:18
morghanphoenixthe screensaver?12:18
daskreechXmatrix screensaver12:18
daskreech What does it do?12:18
virtexnone of my screensavers are running12:19
m4v3rick_morghanphoenix: i guess it's an openGL problem12:19
daskreechOh right that bug :)12:19
morghanphoenixIt's the one that mimics the actual consoles in the movie12:19
virtexi think it's cause kdesktop crashed when i logged in :(12:19
morghanphoenixNot a gl screensaver12:19
morghanphoenixthe gl ones work fine12:19
daskreechmorghanphoenix: that's the only one that doesn't work?12:19
MadRabbit320tried to kdesu kate the other day, but kate never opened...didn't show in the taskbar either12:19
daskreechMadRabbit320: do it twice :012:20
morghanphoenixNo, lots of the xscreensavers don't work.12:20
daskreechmorghanphoenix: I think thats a known bug. Might be fixed on edgy12:20
virtexnone of mine work, not even for setup12:20
m4v3rick_morghanphoenix: openGL screensavers don't work cause of bad i810 driver, the one that mimics the movies in a screensaver owrks fine12:20
MadRabbit320why a need to type it twice?12:20
daskreechMadRabbit320: antsy machine? I need to do that for firefox sometiems as well12:21
cpk2MadRabbit320: open a konsole and do "apt-cache policy kdebase-bin" and see if it says if its installed12:21
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morghanphoenixOpposite for me, I know it's wierd, but all the known bugs don't seem to affect me and I get issues with things nobody else has ever had problems with.12:21
morghanphoenixGLMatrix works perfectly, incredibly slow on a graphics card with vram measured in k, but it works.12:23
m4v3rick_hmmm12:23
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morghanphoenixI've got the new card sitting here waiting for my backup to finish, so after a hundred times more vram is in my computer I may just end up using the gl one.12:24
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virtexi have an all in wonder x80012:25
virtexcan't wait to try and get it installed lol12:25
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morghanphoenixBut knowing my luck I'll break something when I try installing the geforce12:25
MadRabbit320y, kdebase-bin shows up12:25
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Hydragreat, and "reboot" doesn't actually reboot my pc...12:25
Hydranice12:25
Hydraanyone got a working xorg.conf for an nvidia 6800 card with two 1280x1024 monitors?12:26
instructorHydra: Sudo reboot?12:26
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morghanphoenixAny scripts out there for setting up nvidia support? I can't seem to get automatix working since they did automatix2.12:27
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MadRabbit320cpk2: sorry for the delay, vision problems...12:28
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cpk2MadRabbit320: when you did apt-cache policy kdebase-bin its says installed and candidate, it said it was installed correct?12:30
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Zerb_Rissis there a way to clean up the package downloads so they don't continue taking up space?12:32
LynoureZerb_Riss: sudo apt-get clean12:32
jarnI tried to set up a script to make the wine command do 'kstart --desktop 5 wine' and now the kstart program is looping madly and anything I open opens in desktop 5.12:32
MadRabbit320cpk2: said it's installed, etc.12:33
LynoureZerb_Riss: but in some cases it can be handy to have older version around12:33
cpk2there's a smart clean12:33
MadRabbit320cpk2: don't remember where though12:33
cpk2MadRabbit320: that means kdesu should work12:33
morghanphoenix20 min later, 5% more complete, this copy speed is killing me!12:33
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morghanphoenix30 min, stupid keyboard12:34
Zerb_RissLynoure: not when you only have 6gb hard drive :)12:34
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morghanphoenixI had several GB of old packages, I can see how that could be a problem.12:36
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doml_Zerb_Riss there's clean and autoclean.  check man apt-get12:36
doml_Zerb_Riss, put that in a cron-job to run weekly (daily, whatever) and you're set12:36
Zerb_Rissthanks doml_12:36
Zerb_RissI'll look into that12:37
LynoureZerb_Riss: that is indeed not much12:37
Zerb_Riss:)12:37
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morghanphoenixI found a 20GB HDD in the trash12:37
cpk2Zerb_Riss: you might want smart clean, it deletes packages that already have a newer one in the cache12:37
Zerb_RissI need to get from Breezy to Edgy on it and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to pull it off12:37
MadRabbit320cpk2: ok, so how do I get my homemade cursor to wherever "it" needs to be usable?12:38
doml_Zerb_Riss, "kdesu kcron" it's your friend.12:38
morghanphoenixbreezy to dapper12:38
morghanphoenixdapper to edgy12:38
cpk2MadRabbit320: can you run icoutils?12:38
Zerb_Rissyah12:38
Zerb_Rissbut I'm going to have to download like 1gb of stuff for each update12:38
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cpk2or icutils whichever its called12:38
doml_!obotu dapper to edgy12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about obotu dapper to edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
Zerb_Rissupgrade*12:38
doml_!obotu edgy12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about obotu edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
doml_!dapper to edgy12:39
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daskreechdoml_: What are you doing?12:39
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doml_harassing the bot and spamming the channel, apparently12:39
morghanphoenixfish don't seem to be biting today12:39
Zerb_Risslol12:39
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virtexlol i have 3x 4.3gb 2x 8.5gb 5x 10gb 3x 20gb and 2x 30gb drives sitting on my desk12:39
daskreech!fishing12:39
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:39
virtexand a 10 and a 200gb drive in my machine12:40
Zerb_Risswell this is in a laptop12:40
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Zerb_RissI'd love to get a larger drive for it but have no moolah12:40
doml_thx daskreech12:40
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Zerb_Rissso if anyone wants to give away any size of 2.5" HDD, I'll gladly pay shipping on it :)12:40
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dorathere is something i've been trying to do12:41
MadRabbit3201. NO windows on this comp, 2. icoutils has been "apt-got", but I think becuz no windows; no icoutils useable, 3. got all my fonts that I use settled in12:41
morghanphoenix!upgrade12:41
dorahow to mount an ntfs file system and let users access it12:41
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:41
virtexZerb_Riss: I have a 2.5" somewhere12:41
Zerb_Risshave you been trying to give me a hard drive, dora?12:41
morghanphoenixthat it?12:41
Zerb_Rissvirtex: what size and are you willing to give it away?12:41
Kr4t05!ntfs12:41
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:41
doraZerb_Riss: i just joined in, i don't know what you guys were talkin about12:41
Zerb_Rissdora, I was joking :)12:41
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doraZerb_Riss: crap! i just got it :P12:42
virtexZerb_Riss: not sure i think it's a 40gb actually, where do you live ?12:42
Zerb_RissUtah, USA12:42
morghanphoenixEek, Utah!12:42
virtexlol12:43
virtexi'm in Alberta, Canada12:44
morghanphoenixThat brings back memories, none of them good.12:44
morghanphoenixAnd I was just complaining about Seattle.12:44
Zerb_Risshmm how much would it cost to send from there?12:44
virtexnot sure it's pretty tiny, i'll find out12:45
dorawhat's the fmask and dmask values in fstab?12:45
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daskreechdoml_: No problem12:45
doraafter you change the fstab, do you have to restart?12:46
Zerb_Rissthanks virtex how will we keep in touch?12:46
afm\colossusdora: like umask, except seperated for files and dirs12:46
virtexZerb_Riss: do you have msn ?12:47
Zerb_Rissvirtex: yes12:47
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dorayou ubotu.. thanks for the help man12:47
dora!life12:47
cpk2dora: its a bot =)12:47
morghanphoenix!botsnack12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
ubotuYum!12:48
MadRabbit320cpk2: icoutils: installed 0.25.0-1   candidate 0.25.0-112:48
dorahe doesn't know anything about life, yet he helped me12:48
daskreechmorghanphoenix: Does she count those?12:48
dora:D12:48
cpk2MadRabbit320: so try icoutiles from console and see if anything starts12:48
daskreechdora: isn't that selfless?12:48
drizhey guys i need help setting up a folder to share on my network with another kubuntu box and a Mac12:48
driz?12:48
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doradaskreech: that's too much12:48
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MadRabbit320cpk2: "C"onsole or "K"onsole?12:49
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morghanphoenixI think ubotu lives in it's bot parents basement and subsists on a diet of botsnacks and jolt cola.12:49
morghanphoenixEither that or amphetamines.12:49
cpk2MadRabbit320: they are synonomous =)12:49
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cpk2MadRabbit320: but the program you have is called konsole =P12:50
MadRabbit320cpk2: ok, trying...12:50
morghanphoenixYakuake is my friend.12:50
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MadRabbit320cpk2: if all I need to type is "icoutils"<enter>, I get "command not found"12:52
daskreechmorghanphoenix: Hey! leave my friend out of this!12:52
cpk2hrmm alright i guess i will get icoutiles12:52
cpk2without the e12:52
morghanphoenix!yakuake12:53
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB12:53
morghanphoenixeverybody's friend if they use konsole a lot.12:53
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morghanphoenixI don't really agree with the optional part, but then again, not many people use konsole konstantly.12:54
cpk2MadRabbit320: alright the command is icotool but hang on i need to figure out the options to give it12:54
MadRabbit320cpk2: ok12:55
cpk2morghanphoenix: I have one desktop with a maximized konsole and one desktop with 3 konsoles each taking up 1/4 of the screen =)12:55
MadRabbit320I'm really likin' the tab key in this...12:55
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morghanphoenixI have lots of tabs in yakuake.12:56
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siloxis there any disktool / format tool which i can format my Sandisk m240 MP3 Player with?12:56
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morghanphoenixI like being able to roll it up out of the way, only one screen here.12:56
daskreechcpk2: you should look into quadkonsole12:56
morghanphoenixStill keeps all my sessions open when it's hidden and doesn't use much in the way of resources.12:57
morghanphoenixhalf-screen drop down transparent.12:57
daskreechmorghanphoenix: And draws ooh and aahhhs ;)12:57
morghanphoenixToo bad I can't get quake to work.12:58
MadRabbit320cursors aren't called cursors in kubuntu, are they? as in to srch for where the cursors hide in kubuntu...12:58
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morghanphoenixI've abandoned opera12:59
morghanphoenixFinally took the time to set up konqueror for web browsing.12:59
argonelMadRabbit320: where they hide?12:59
argonelmy mouse cursor jumps around randomly, without warning and sometimes in midclick, but it never hides01:00
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cpk2argonel: he is talking about changing the appearence of the cursor01:01
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MadRabbit320orgonel i.e. find which folder the cursors are in, so I can move "my"cursor in there so I can use it01:01
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argonelsystem settings->keyboard and mouse -> mouse -> cursor themes01:01
LynoureIs there a page similar to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta to list Kubuntu changes?01:01
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argonelmanually? its point and click, you don't do things manually01:02
daskreechBye guys01:02
cpk2argonel: what does it call cursor themes though?01:02
argonelcpk2: cursor themes01:03
cpk2the extension01:03
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cpk2its not .cur01:03
argonelbeats me, find a cursor theme01:03
MadRabbit320orgonel, i know where they are TO change them, but where can I PUT one to be able to use it?01:03
argonelMadRabbit320: just so you know, my nick starts with an A01:03
argonelMadRabbit320: maybe you should look into fonts first.01:03
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MadRabbit320argonel I have vision problems, hence the request for using my own cursor01:05
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MadRabbit320argonel sorry for the "mis-pronunciation" of your nick01:06
rawrnessi broke my system again! :P01:06
naaronboanybody can help me01:06
argonelMadRabbit320: thats ok.. you were just in danger of me ignoring you because i wouldn't know you were talking to me unless i was watching the channel :)01:06
rawrnessSo i am just going to say screw it wait till thursday burn iso and fresh install01:07
naaronboi have a usb wireless card01:07
argonelMadRabbit320: did you steal your cursor from an existing theme?01:07
morghanphoenixI wish they sold single cd-rs01:07
rawrnessXD01:07
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rawrnessthe packaging would cost more than the cd01:07
morghanphoenixI don't want to buy 50 minimum just cause I need to burn a new iso01:08
rawrnessthey are buyable in 25 packs01:08
naaronbomy system do detect this card01:08
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MadRabbit320argonel: haven't found a way to display "where" the cursor is when my eye loses it; as in windows, u can set "ctrl" to highlight the cursor location01:08
morghanphoenixNo, I mean like an office supply store that opens a package and sells them singly.01:08
rawrnessthat would be nice01:08
rawrnessit would like have a copy service to :P01:08
MadRabbit320argonel: no, cursor was self made in a prog I had years ago01:09
morghanphoenixI have that, just put the origional in my dvd drive and the blank one in the rw.01:09
argonelMadRabbit320: unfortunately kde's accessibility features are still in their infancy01:09
morghanphoenixlol01:09
rawrness:P01:09
rawrnessor just y ou nero01:09
rawrnessuse*01:10
morghanphoenixI used to use alcohol, but don't think there's a linux version of it.01:10
rawrnessI think il try making my own data backup biz.01:10
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MadRabbit320argonel: so starting into linux "now" isn't a brilliant idea, huh?01:10
rawrnessi don;t see much use for alcohol 120..... in linux01:11
cpk2MadRabbit320: hrmm might need icon-slicer - icon-slicer is a utility for generating icon themes and libXcursor cursor themes that01:11
cellofellowI need help with an HP LaserJet 1100 over Samba.01:11
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rawrnessused primerly for games in my opnion01:11
cellofellowI get this error in KDE Printer thingy: Unable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-LaserJet_1100,hpijs] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.01:11
cellofellowI am root01:11
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morghanphoenixI love my invalid path warnings.01:11
rawrnessphear r00t01:11
argonelMadRabbit320: well, you'll have to do some work in order to get what you want01:11
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morghanphoenixJust linux's little way of telling me somebody tried to sneak something in on me.01:12
rawrnessI love adept01:12
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cellofellowanyone?01:12
morghanphoenixI've had several CDs try to install software to my c drive, I think it was disappointed when it couldn't find it.01:12
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MadRabbit320cpk2: ok, don't remember seeing icon-slicer in the adept list01:13
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Erich-KIs there a guide to help me with making a kdm theme?01:13
rawrnessIf i didn't store all my data on its own partion i would be so screwd01:13
MadRabbit320argonel: some work should be the "ws" name for ubuntu...01:13
rawrnessi have reintsalled about 8 times in the past 2 weeks01:13
morghanphoenixYeah, only took one time of losing everything for me to start making partitions.01:13
cellofellowErich-K: you do need the kdmtheme package to install them. try kde-look.org, they've lots of themes and might have tutorial.01:13
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MadRabbit320argonel: *s, not *ws01:14
rawrnessi found using fat32 can be a pain but sometimes usefull01:14
rawrnessonlything you can move01:14
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morghanphoenixI use ext3 for all hard mounted drives and fat32 for the removables.01:14
cellofellowanybody know how to fix my comlaining printer?01:14
argonelMadRabbit320: there are some high contrast cursors installed by default, how do you like them?01:15
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Zerb_Rissmorghanphoenix: why not NTFS?01:15
cellofellowmorghanphoenix: me too01:15
morghanphoenixMy printer's busted so I never bothered to figure out cups01:15
argonelMadRabbit320: oh, maybe they're just red01:15
morghanphoenixI had an ntfs drive, wasn't worth it.01:15
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morghanphoenixreformatted it fat32.01:15
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cellofellowI think I could possibly get this thing to work if I used HPLIP locally, but it's on a remote windows pc.01:16
rawrnesswhat do you guys think of buying 1 gb thumbdrives painting,mounting a live cd with pestialence and selling for 2x what you payed for?01:16
cpk2MadRabbit320: alright I think I *might* know what to do01:16
MadRabbit320argonel:  I'm "legally" blind, not stevie wonder blind...no offense to stevie...chk'ed the high cons out, but they are fugly.01:16
rawrnessi am trying to think of flaws in my plan.....01:16
nii_where can i download xsltproc01:16
morghanphoenixpestialence?01:17
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cpk2MadRabbit320: alright make a directory for one of the .cur files you have from windows, put the .cur into there01:17
argonelMadRabbit320: how debian/linux familiar are you?01:17
MadRabbit320cpk2: i'm willing to try anything; although I may need some coaching01:17
cellofellowI know there's an X11 cursur themes section on kde-look.org01:18
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nii_i mean where can i download xsltproc01:18
morghanphoenixrawrness, what's pestialence?01:18
rawrnessmorghanphoenix: The abilty to write to disk01:18
rawrnessi spelt it wrong.....01:18
morghanphoenixah01:18
rawrnesssince its a thumbdrive you would have that abilty01:18
rawrnesscasue its has rewritable space01:19
rawrnessthus meaning you can have a portable kubuntu setup on any computer01:19
Ash-Fox!firefox01:19
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:19
morghanphoenixHow would it boot? Not familiar with thumb drive boots, would it work on any computer?01:19
MadRabbit320cpk2:  it's in my "Downloads", should I make a specific "dir" for it? and how so?01:19
argonelMadRabbit320: how about this one? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1990201:20
rawrnessiti would boot like the dsl usb01:20
cpk2MadRabbit320: just make a new directory in your homefolder using konquerer and the right click menu and name it whatever you want and put the cursor in there01:20
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cpk2MadRabbit320: be back in a couple minutes01:20
argonelMadRabbit320: click on the preview image under "white large" near the top center01:20
morghanphoenixARGH! 8 1/2 hours later 18.4 GB of 30.4 GB complete.01:20
morghanphoenix76 KB/s01:21
rawrnessfun01:21
rawrnessdsl morghan?01:21
morghanphoenixFrom hda1 to sda101:21
cellofellowubotu sure know little for an all-knowing infobot.01:21
rawrnessoh fun01:21
rawrness!anything01:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:21
rawrnessnope01:21
MadRabbit320arg ok, gimme a min01:21
cellofellow!botsnack01:22
ubotuYum!01:22
morghanphoenixI swear it copies faster with winscp on my girl's computer using usb 1.001:22
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cellofellow!linux01:23
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux01:23
cellofellow!GNU01:23
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org01:23
morghanphoenix!fishing01:24
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops01:24
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kjeldergfor edgy upgrade, just vim /etc/apt/sources.list -c "% s /dapper/edgy/g"-c "q" && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, right?01:24
jarnIs there a way to force a game to open in windowed mode that normally wouldn't01:24
rawrnessXD fishing01:24
morghanphoenix #ubuntu-bots is fun01:24
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kjelderg(I ask because xorg refuses to upgrade and if I try to upgrade it manually it wants me to say "Yes, do as I say!" which usually shouldn't be typed.)01:26
MadRabbit320argonel: the prob (for me) is the white gets lost on a page, the one i made has a 4 pixel wide border around a smaller white arrow that shows up (again, for me) on any page.  but, thanks for trying!01:26
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MadRabbit320arg, gimme a min, trying cpk2' procedure...01:28
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argonelMadRabbit320: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20568     ?01:29
argonelMadRabbit320: the problem is, X uses many cursors, not just one01:30
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jarn!xnest01:30
ubotuxnest: Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (dapper), package size 1212 kB, installed size 3372 kB01:30
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LogicalDashI've just plugged some headphones in and Kubuntu doesn't seem to recognize them. Any help?01:33
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raghow to install half life with opengl support or wine with opengl support01:34
ragsomebody help me01:34
jarn!xserver-xephyr01:36
ubotuxserver-xephyr: Nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 438 kB, installed size 944 kB01:36
MadRabbit320argonel: that page refers to using a whole set of cursors and using "g"conf; we don't have "g"conf in kde do we? not to mention just wanting "1" cursor01:37
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nii_how can i register my nikc on irc01:37
nii_plese01:37
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kjeldergnii_: talk to nickserv01:38
nii_plese i need to know this01:38
cpk2MadRabbit320: alright once you get a .cur into its own directory open a konsole and go to the directory that you put the .cur into01:39
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MadRabbit320argonel: gotta break for a bit (eye meds) post whatever u think might help, biab, thanks!01:39
nii_who is nickserv01:40
MadRabbit320cpk2: and then...?01:40
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nii_kjelderg wold you please direct me t nick serve01:40
cpk2MadRabbit320: once you are in the directory you put the .cur into in konsole do icotool -x nameof.cur01:40
kjeldergnii_: his name is nickserv...msg him with the message "help"01:41
nii_kjelderg are you there please01:41
kjeldergam I where?01:41
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MadRabbit320cpk2: does "-x" autom put it where it needs to be?01:43
cpk2MadRabbit320: it will put it in the directory its in which is fine for what we need01:44
nii_kjelderg i send it but i beleve you can also see the mesage it gave back01:44
kjeldergnegative01:44
MadRabbit320cpk2: ok, in the process...01:44
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kjeldergnii_: but I imagine you can read it...and that's the important bit01:44
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nii_is this the way am going to talk to nikserv /msg nikserv01:45
kjeldergnickserv*01:45
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tincho10alguien habla espaol01:47
lupine_85!es01:48
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:48
lupine_85:)01:48
tincho10gracias01:48
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MadRabbit320cpk2: GOTTA get eye meds BIGtime...biab01:48
cpk2MadRabbit320: no problem01:49
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Dark_Vampirewhat to do with .rpm ?01:54
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cpk2Dark_Vampire: nothing01:55
cpk2Dark_Vampire: there is probably a .deb if there is a .rpm01:55
Dark_Vampirei just got the .rpm01:56
cpk2well its supposedly dangerous to install rpm's01:56
Dark_Vampirewhy?01:57
rawrnessits not natural01:57
lupine_85Dark_Vampire: differences in libc version, LSB details, etc01:57
lupine_85some things are safer than others01:57
Dark_Vampirei see01:57
lupine_85e.g. static binaries are very safe01:57
nii_kjelderg do you know how to install xsltproc01:58
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lupine_85in general, it's better to build from source than use a .rpm01:58
nii_and where to get the sorce form01:58
lupine_85if you have no choice, however...01:58
lupine_85!rpm01:58
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).01:58
kjeldergnii_: not offhand, should be a package of some form01:58
lupine_85nii_: source depends on the package ;) usually www.sourceforge.net though01:58
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nii_ok then am going to chek it out02:02
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jarnNARG02:03
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narg?02:04
jarnI see you. :P02:04
nargok...02:05
dragonflysevenSorry, what is the rename command in the shell?02:05
lupine_85mv :)02:05
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dragonflysevenThanks.02:05
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dragonflysevenI was coping stuff and deleting stuff. That is much faster.02:07
Redeanybody know if there is a way to have xorg display 4:3 w/black bars on a 16:10 monitor? i'm trying to starcraft running letterboxed instead of stretching02:07
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kjeldergRede: usually that's a monitor setting02:08
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kjelderg(whether or not it expands a 4:3 resolution across the monitor)02:08
Redeahhh :(02:09
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Redemy monitor doesnt have that feature, i was hoping there was a way of achieving it with software02:09
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kjeldergRede: there probably _is_ but I surely don't know of it.  it really is (imho) the responsibility of the monitor02:12
kjeldergyou see, the expanding isn't done in the software so ...02:13
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=== Mythbusters saluta tutti e va a nanna.notte
dragonflysevenYou know how on macs there is a key combinations that makes the screen a negative image? Is there any way to do that on kumbuntu?02:16
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rawrness_Use aculal nvida drivers makes everything run faster?02:17
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dragonflysevenYou know how on macs there is a key combinations that makes the screen a negative image? Is there any way to do that on kubuntu? (Copying to keep question in sight.)02:19
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tyl3rinstall beryl02:19
tyl3rit has a plugin for the negative screen02:19
Random_Transithey, is it normal for amarok to be eating up over 100MB of my RAM?02:20
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rawrness_i  would not think so02:22
rawrness_unless you had like 2 gb of ramm :P\02:22
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Random_Transitrawrness_, well, it is...and i only have 320MB...any idea what could be happening?02:23
rawrness_No clue :P02:23
rawrness_i only have 216 ramm02:23
rawrness_how i got that i have no clue02:23
dragonflysevenYou know how on macs there is a key combinations that makes the screen a negative image? Is there any way to do that on kubuntu? (Copying to keep question in sight, yell at me if its annoying)02:24
rawrness_btw02:24
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rawrness_where are you geting your numbers from random?02:24
Random_Transitrawrness_, Top02:24
deccohi02:24
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rawrness_are you talking about a eyecandy?02:24
Random_Transitlol02:24
Random_Transitno02:24
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deccoinstalled kubuntu now.. and wth is the root pass? didn't get any questions about that ?02:25
rawrness_decco: for what?02:25
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deccofor change user too root02:25
bimberi!root02:25
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:25
rawrness_decco: youi don't EVEN log on to root02:25
Random_TransitTOP is a CLI based process manager, rawrness_02:25
rawrness_ahhhhh02:25
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rawrness_noclue what that is :P02:25
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Random_Transitrawrness_, a task manager02:26
rawrness_decco: if you need to run something as root just use kdesu or sudo02:26
rawrness_Random_Transit:  :P02:26
Random_Transitlists all running processes and how much memory they're using02:26
deccok02:26
rawrness_is the accual ram its using or the ammount its reservering?02:27
Random_Transitboth02:27
Random_Transitit lists both in separate columns02:27
rawrness_oh well i have no clue to your problem.02:27
Random_Transitwell okay then.02:27
reaver_could someone help me with dvd playback?02:27
Random_Transit!dvd02:28
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:28
Samuli^!libdvdcss02:28
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Hydrawhat's with the broken multi-monitor support?  the system settings app gives me the option to enable a second display, but doesn't let me...02:30
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Hydraa) choose a resolution more than 640x480 on it02:30
TheUninow that i've upgraded from dapper to edgy, i get a bunch of python packages held back. anyone else have that prob?02:30
rawrness_I noticed that was broken to.....02:30
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Hydrab) let me autodetect the monitor (it does for the primary monitor..)02:30
reaver_I've installed libdvdcss2, when I try and play a dvd it plays for a few seconds then gives an error about not being able to decrypt it02:30
rawrness_TheUni:  i couldn't even get it to upgrade02:30
rawrness_i broke my system 3 times trying to upgrade02:31
rawrness_well acully twice one time i think it installed a server02:31
Hydraand when x restarts it just fails to display anything on the 2nd monitor other than a bunch of wavy lines02:31
rawrness_but didn't know what that was at the min02:31
bLaZeDberyl/compiz both work with the beta nvidia driveers?...with no need for compiz?02:32
kjelderghuh?!02:32
kjeldergcompiz works without need for compiz?!02:32
bLaZeDlet me rephrarse thar02:32
kjeldergthat's great!02:32
bLaZeDkik02:32
kjelderg:p02:32
bLaZeD*lol02:32
kjeldergxgl/aiglx02:32
kjeldergand yes02:33
bLaZeDWith the beta NVIDIA drivers, you don't require AIGLX and/or XGL. The driver implements everything that AIGLX and XGL would offer, thus beryl/compiz work without either of them installed.02:33
kjelderg(supposedly)02:33
bLaZeDthat killer02:33
bLaZeD*thats02:33
kjeldergtell me if it actually works :)02:33
bLaZeDkjelderg, im gonna wait till the new *ubuntu drops...so if it messes up my system for a 3rd time.......ill just reinstall the new os02:33
bLaZeDlol02:33
reaver_could anyone help me with dvd playback in ways other than telling me to install libdvdcss2, which I've done?02:34
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bLaZeD!restricted02:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:34
=== rawrness_ also has bad luck, broke my system twice
bLaZeDreaver_, follor that02:34
kjeldergI've got 1 of 4 tries that have worked on upgrading to edgy02:34
bLaZeDrawrness_, lol me to...doesnt it suck?02:34
kjelderg(over the last week)02:34
Admiral_Chicagokjelderg: how did you update02:34
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bLaZeDkjelderg, its not final yet is it?02:34
kjeldergbLaZeD: no, it's rc02:35
bLaZeDrc is?...i know its not final02:35
Admiral_ChicagobLaZeD: RC02:35
Admiral_ChicagoRelease Candidate02:35
kjeldergAdmiral_Chicago: vim /etc/apt/sources.list -c "% s /dapper/edgy/g" -c "q" && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade02:35
bLaZeDhuh lol im smart.,.....that what i thought it standed for02:35
bLaZeDlol02:35
kjeldergit's my time-proven method that's taken me for probably a hundred (at least 7 or 8 dozen) upgrades in debians in the past02:36
rawrness_final comes out in a fewe days do02:36
Admiral_Chicagokjelderg: the command to use is "dist-upgrade -c -d" or something like that02:36
Admiral_Chicago!update02:36
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:36
bLaZeDso compiz is a window manager?...02:37
bLaZeDand berly02:37
bLaZeD*beryl02:37
bLaZeD!beryl02:37
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.02:37
Admiral_Chicagogksu "update-manager -c -d"02:38
Admiral_Chicagoor kdesu on KDE02:38
kjelderg  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:38
kjelderg(recommended process...using apt-get)02:38
Admiral_Chicagokjelderg: no no i know what you did, but according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades02:38
rawrness_There's no guarantee that upgrading will succeed! You may end up with a broken02:38
Admiral_Chicagothat is how you are supposed to update to Edgy02:38
rawrness_like me twice....02:38
rawrness_twice i tell  you.....02:38
rawrness_last time was realy tripy though02:39
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cpk2they should make an update to edgy meta package once edgy comes out02:39
cpk2that would be easy =P02:39
kjeldergrawrness_: tried it several times ... the times after the first were to no affect02:39
kjeldergcpk2: or just make it work the way it has in the past02:39
rawrness_i am just waiting till the 26th02:39
rawrness_il burn the 'stable" iso02:40
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kjeldergworked great for badger->dapper, amongst the various debian branches, even to edgy one of four times :p02:40
rawrness_and clean boot02:40
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Admiral_Chicagokjelderg: did you install kubuntu-desktop before you did this02:40
kjeldergAdmiral_Chicago: affirmative.  was installed fo sho02:40
Admiral_ChicagoIt worked perfectly for me, and i updated to knot 102:40
kjeldergran apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:41
kjelderg(it did nothing as it was already installed)02:41
kjelderglike I said, the method can't be too flawed as it worked one of the times :)02:41
ricaneliteHello all, I had a little problem. I installed the beta version of the update that is releasing on oct 26. Now the download and the install went well. But when I restarted my Apple Mac Mini Machine my system went through the hole boot up but when it goes to your login, My monitor went blank02:41
kjeldergone ended up unbootable because init got deinstalled and not reinstalled (in each case I made sure the package manager didn't whine before rebooting)02:41
kjeldergone was an unbootable kernel (the devs knew about it and fixed it already)02:42
kjeldergthe other required a reinstall of kubuntu-desktop after the dist-upgrade (was already installed)02:42
Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: log into fail safe02:42
Admiral_Chicagofail safe terminal02:42
Admiral_Chicagoand type sudo startx02:43
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Admiral_Chicagowhen you get the error mesasge, post it back here02:43
Admiral_Chicagokjelderg: init isn't being used anymore02:43
kjeldergI would guess ctrl+alt+f1 would be the way to get a terminal...this sounds like my 3th attempt02:43
Admiral_Chicago!upstart > kjelderg02:43
kjeldergAdmiral_Chicago: an init is still being used, I should think02:43
kjeldergyeah, I know about upstart...02:44
kjeldergwas around when the devs made the decision02:44
kjeldergit's still an init02:44
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CPUFreak91Hi, I get the error: "Another process is using the packaging database..." but I can't find anything to kill!02:44
Admiral_Chicagonot really02:44
ricaneliteahh being that I'm new into Linux, I got scared and reinstalled everything all over again02:44
ricanelitelol02:44
kjelderginit is a technical term referring to the INITial program that a kernel loads to start the system02:45
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Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: no you probably had a improperly configured X server02:45
kjeldergupstart, afaict, is just yet another implementation of an init02:45
ricanelitehow can I get to the screen where I can type in "sudo startx"02:45
bLaZeD!beryl02:45
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.02:45
Admiral_Chicagokjelderg: ah okay i didn't know that02:45
kjelderg:)02:45
CPUFreak91I deleted /var/lib/apt/lists/lock but I still get the same error02:45
ricaneliteso there was no reason for me to do that?02:46
CPUFreak91Restarting X and rebooting also do not help02:46
kjeldergricanelite: try ctrl+alt+f102:46
Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: at the log in screen you select the session type02:46
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Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: probably not02:46
cellofellowIs there a Windows 98 channel here somewhere?02:46
ricaneliteso when the computer starts to boot, i do ctrl+alt+f1?02:47
Hydrawow02:47
kjeldergnope, when you are at the black screen02:47
Hydrai just installed Windows Vista!02:47
ricaneliteahh okay02:47
Hydrait's awesome02:47
ricaneliteand if that does not work?02:47
kjeldergHydra: everything you hoped for and more?02:47
Admiral_Chicagocellofellow: no idea MS stopped supporting 98 iirc02:47
DasnipaHydra, go away lol02:47
Hydrakjelderg, interesting comparison for installation02:47
kjeldergricanelite: then we'll have to think of some'n' else.  Is this the same machine you are IRCing from?02:48
ricaneliteI heard windows vista interface was nice, but still the same OS02:48
ricaneliteyes02:48
kjelderghmm...02:48
kjeldergthat'll be more tricky02:48
ricanelitelol02:48
cellofellowAdmiral_Chicago: I'm just having some problems with a network printer.02:48
ricanelitewell thats why I got scared and decided to reinstall Linux 6.0 back on02:48
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kjeldergwell, reboot, if ctrl+alt+f1 gets you to a login prompt, login and try startx.  write down any error messages and then come tell them to us :p02:48
Hydrawith vista *everything* i tried worked, no error messages, no problems detecting hardware, no extra rebooting, no hand-editing of config files, no fixing problems02:48
ricanelitewell I dont mind trying again02:49
kjeldergHydra: a bugproof OS?02:49
kjelderghooray!02:49
Admiral_Chicagocellofellow: hmm, well I don't know anything about networking sorry i can't help02:49
cellofellowAdmiral_Chicago: it's ok.02:49
Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: also02:49
cpk2Hydra: with Kubuntu *everything* i have tried has worked =)02:49
Admiral_Chicagotry this comand02:49
ricaneliteokay well to get the beta02:49
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Hydracompared to hours and hours and hours of trying to get kubuntu up with a) raid-0, b) nvidia dual monitors, c) sound02:49
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Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:49
Hydraanyway, off to bed now02:49
RatKingHow do I start compiz?02:49
kjeldergmaybe I'll have to try it someday02:49
Hydrann all02:49
cpk2sound is hard in kubuntu?02:50
kjeldergRatKing: type compiz?02:50
RatKingDoesn't do anything02:50
Admiral_ChicagoRatKing: csm-start might also work02:50
kjeldergHydra: raid0 should be operating system independent02:50
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Admiral_Chicagoin run command02:50
Admiral_ChicagoRatKing:  try #ubutu-xgl02:50
ricaneliteokay, earlier when i was trying to the new version02:50
Admiral_Chicagothey are better at that type oy thing02:50
RatKing#ubuntu-xgl02:51
ricanelitesomeone explain to me that i had to change all drapper to efgty02:51
ricanelitesomething like that02:51
ricanelitecan you explain to me again?02:51
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ricaneliteit was simple too02:51
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ricaneliteyeah02:51
ricanelitelol02:51
kjeldergyou change them in /etc/apt/sources.list to change versions...02:51
ricanelitesorrie getting really sleepy02:51
ricanelitehow i get there in terminal?02:51
kjeldergprobably not recommended if you aren't a fairly advanced user02:51
Admiral_Chicagokdesu "update-manager -c -d"02:51
ricanelitewhere i type that?02:52
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CPUFreak91Hmm. Seem to have gotten stuff working02:52
Admiral_Chicagosudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:52
ricanelitedamn this was different from what he told me02:53
Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: when you get to the terminal log in screen02:53
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ricaneliteall i had to do was select replace and put in edgy and then replace all and thats it02:53
Admiral_Chicagowell there are multiples ways02:53
ricaneliteoo okay02:53
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ricanelitewell the easy way02:53
ricanelitelol02:53
BonBonTheJonAdmiral_Chicago: he should use kate, not nano, much easier02:54
kjeldergI promote the use of sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list -c "% s /dapper/edgy/g" -c "q"02:54
kjeldergvery quick and easy02:55
kjeldergpainless, one could say02:55
kjeldergBonBonTheJon: he doesn't have X...02:55
BonBonTheJonkjelderg: that would make it difficult02:55
kjeldergyup02:55
kjeldergdifficult enough for Admiral_Chicago to recommend nano02:55
Admiral_Chicagoricanelite: first get the error you get when you type "sudo startx"02:55
kjeldergyup02:56
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Admiral_Chicagoone thing at a time02:56
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deccoanyone fixed 3d accs with radeon x200 card ?02:57
ricanelitealright im going to download edgy again and let it do its thing and then I try to get back on with the update and try startx02:57
kjelderghave fun!02:58
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cpk23 more days...02:59
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CPUFreak91How does one turn off PCMCIA and Bluetooth at boot?03:01
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CPUFreak91I'm lost without rc-update ;)03:02
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JucatoCPUFreak91: Service Manager in System Settings?03:03
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ubuntu_hello03:04
ubuntu_everybody03:04
kjelderghowdy do03:05
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dragonflysevenHow do you move up one directory in the console?03:05
Jucatodragonflyseven: "cd .."03:05
ubuntu_lyap03:05
Jucatospace between "cd" and ".."03:05
ubuntu_cd03:05
dragonflysevenBut cd takes you back to root.03:05
CPUFreak91Jucato: Don't see a service manager03:05
dragonflysevenOh, do you mean do the dot dot?03:05
dragonflysevenOk, thanks.03:05
Jucatodragonflyseven: I said "cd .."03:05
JucatoCPUFreak91: er? Dapper or Edgy?03:06
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dragonflysevenOh, yes, it works. Sorry, and thanks.03:06
kjeldergdragonflyseven: where's the bots info on basic CLI navigation?03:06
ubuntu_what's your os dragonfly03:06
dragonflysevenPardon?03:06
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ubuntu_i mean your operating system you used03:06
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Jucatodragonflyseven: btw, plain "cd" takes you back to $HOME03:06
kjeldergdragonflyseven: oops, wrong person03:07
kjeldergJucato: meant that for you...03:07
dragonflysevenYeah. I am using edgy eft, with KDE. Hense the "kubuntu" channel.03:07
dragonflysevenOh, ok.03:07
CPUFreak91Jucato: Oh, sorry Dapper03:07
Jucatokjelderg: err.. the bot info? hold on...03:07
bLaZeDanyone here use beryl?...03:07
Jucato!cli03:07
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:07
kjeldergah, great :)03:08
kjeldergdragonflyseven: ^^ that's for you03:08
cpk2i always thought it was cd ../. to go up a dir03:08
dragonflysevenYep, I am looking into it.03:08
JucatoCPUFreak91: hm... it should be somewhere near the bottom, together with the Administration group (Login Manager, Users & Groups, etc.)03:08
kjeldergbLaZeD: I am right now03:08
kjeldergcpk2: .. is sufficient03:08
ubuntu_dude03:08
bLaZeDkjelderg, are u using it with kde?..or gnome?03:08
cpk2at least i use cd ../.03:08
kjelderg.././././. would also work :)03:08
ubuntu_to tell you frankly03:08
kjeldergbLaZeD: kde03:08
bLaZeDkjelderg, how are u starting it?03:09
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Jucatolol03:09
kjeldergbLaZeD: beryl-manager03:09
bLaZeDkjelderg, u are just typing that at the comand promt?03:09
ubuntu_im a beginner of this thing kubuntu its my first time to use this operating system03:09
ubuntu_and i use live cd03:09
CPUFreak91Jucato: Got it03:09
kjeldergbLaZeD: work?03:10
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CPUFreak91Jucato: thanks this is what I'm looking for03:10
ubuntu_what's the website to help me to understand this thing kubuntu03:10
ubuntu_any one03:10
JucatoCPUFreak91: no problem :)03:10
bLaZeDkjelderg, .....nope....when i run that it drops me back at the kdm login promt03:10
n8k99ubuntu_:http://kubuntu.org03:11
kjeldergbLaZeD: like ... you are in kde and you type beryl-manager in konsole and it kicks you back to kdm?03:11
Jucatoubuntu_: there's a Kubuntu Desktop Guide online, but there's also an offline version of it that you can find in K Menu > Help > Kubuntu Documentation03:11
ubuntu_thanks n8k9903:11
CPUFreak91Jucato: Do you know why Kubuntu runs so many cron daemons?03:11
bLaZeDkjelderg, exactly what happens03:11
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Jucatoubuntu_: don't be scared of it, it's quite beginner friendly03:11
JucatoCPUFreak91: er.. dunno? :)03:11
ubuntu_jucato where you from?03:11
Jucatoubuntu_: philippines. why?03:11
ubuntu_ahh okkiee03:12
ubuntu_where both same03:12
CPUFreak91Jucato: Hmm I guess I'll turn a few of them off then03:12
ubuntu_philippines03:12
kjeldergbLaZeD: my next plan of action would be this: ctrl+alt+f1 sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && startx, then ctrl+alt+f1, export DISPLAY=:0; berylmanager03:12
n8k99ubuntu_ but when you start up konqueror, you will have a n opening page that gives you the choice to find out from with in the browser03:12
kjeldergberyl-manager* that one03:12
kjeldergthen you'll at least get to see an error if there is one03:12
Jucatoubuntu_: whoa! heheh :)03:12
LjLkjelderg: cd $(pwd | rev | cut -f2- -d"/" | rev)03:12
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bLaZeDkjelderg, adnd what exaclly is that gonna do?03:12
ubuntu_jucato where in phils. do u live03:12
kjeldergLjL: hehe...nice03:12
kjeldergbLaZeD: it'll let you have a terminal that will have any and all error messages caused by starting the beryl-manager03:13
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Jucatoubuntu_: Laguna (but this is really getting offtopic :D)03:13
bLaZeDkjelderg, allright let me try that03:13
ubuntu_ah ok just asking03:13
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ubuntu_jucato03:13
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kjeldergLjL: as long as you are doing that ... cd `find . | head -n 1 | rev | cut -f2- -d"/" | rev`03:14
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Jucatoubuntu_: no problem :)03:14
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kjeldergand for safety...xargs :)03:15
LjLkjelderg: hmm, that sounds a bit too efficient. you should probably run find on the *root* filesystem, not on ".", and then check for the line of the output that matches the output from "pwd"03:15
MadRabbit320CPsorry for the timewarp, usually an hour for eye meds, 2x/day03:16
kjeldergLjL: ooh, that's atrocious :)03:16
kjelderg(sp?)03:16
kjeldergLjL: we could justify it by calling it a sanity check?03:16
kjelderg(and then alias it to cd...)03:17
kjeldergvise-versy maybe03:17
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MadRabbit320cpk2 sorry for the timewarp, usually an hour for eye meds, 3x/day  famn dingers hit 2 first time...still fuzzy03:18
cpk2not a problem03:19
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bLaZeDbah when i run startx and then when it all loads...i run beryl-manager and it stops x03:20
bLaZeDsays cant fine wacom...orsomthng03:20
dragonflysevenIs there anything useful to be found from pinging an IP besides listening to the cool ping and making it look like I am computer intelligent?03:21
kjeldergneg03:21
lijiong  03:21
Jucatooh krap...still can't read CJK :P03:22
cpk2bLaZeD: you can probably comment out all the wacom entries in your xorg03:22
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cpk2dragonflyseven: you know what you are pinging is up?03:22
dragonflysevenSo far, all I have pinged is 127.0.0.1 and my router. :(03:22
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cpk2and you know they are up!03:23
JucatoO_o03:23
Jucatoyou just pinged yourself...03:23
bLaZeDhuh k cpk2 im gonna try that brb03:23
cpk2you just use ping to test reachability03:23
dragonflysevenYeah. Its getting old. :)03:23
dragonflysevenYeah, but it sounds cool, and makes it... cool.03:24
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cpk2ping sounds cool?03:24
dragonflysevenOK, then what should I do to improve my console skills?03:24
cpk2i guess if you try to dos yourself the router makes noise03:24
dragonflysevenNo, if you do ping -a03:24
Jucatodragonflyseven: read up on CLI commands...03:24
dragonflysevenit makes a tone every time it does it.03:25
cpk2dragonflyseven: if a gui can use console instead use it via console03:25
dragonflysevenCLI commands... *googling*03:25
Jucato!cli03:26
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:26
cpk2umm learn bash?03:26
Jucatodragonflyseven: ^^^^03:26
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cpk2is bash a good place to start?03:26
dragonflysevenOh, right. I didn't know the acronym.03:26
JucatoCLI = Command Line Interface :)03:27
dragonflysevenYes, I have basic CLI commands down. I just wanted to do something practical with them. And since pinging my router isn't that useful, I was wondering what is.03:27
cpk2you could try learning BASH i suppose?03:28
cpk2you can do some fun things with that i guess03:28
Jucatothough "fun" doesn't always mean "practical" :P03:28
morphishdragonflyseven: find all files on your hard drive that contain the word 'token'03:28
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dragonflysevenOk... such as what? Tell me something fin and I will try to do it.03:28
cpk2dragonflyseven: do you know what BASH is?03:28
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dragonflysevenThe language that the CLI uses? ie: making a bash script? I made something that calls me an idiot when I say "doh"03:29
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tony_Doesanyone know how to edit the lilo.conf file?03:30
cpk2shell scripting03:30
ubuntuwhen i installed kubuntu from the live CD, it installed stuff on the MBR of /dev/hdc0 without asking me. i want the bootloader on /dev/sda0, how do i do that?03:30
JucatoBash for Beginners: http://tille.xalasys.com/training/bash/03:30
lijiongare there have some chinese pople03:30
Jucato!cn03:30
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk03:31
lijiong3Q03:31
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dragonflysevenRight... Bash for Beginners. OK, I will look at that.03:32
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cpk2is there a reason why you want to acclimate to the cli?03:33
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ubuntuwhen i installed kubuntu from the live CD, it installed stuff on the MBR of /dev/hdc0 without asking me. i want the bootloader on /dev/sda0, how do i do that?03:33
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virtexhey, what program do i use to create partitions ?03:34
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kjeldergfdisk03:34
Jucatovirtex: QtParted or Gparted03:34
dragonflysevenHmmm... Everything that looks interesting I have already done on my calculator. How about some command that teaches me Kung Fu?03:35
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kjeldergdragonflyseven: I think rsync has that feature03:36
kjeldergand maybe tar would03:36
Jucato???03:36
kjeldergsed?03:36
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dragonflyseven:) Actually, a matrix-character thing in the shell would be cool.03:37
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dragonflysevenI wonder if such a thing exists...03:37
kjeldergcat /dev/urandom?03:37
kjeldergprobably that piped through perl or sed or printf would do the job03:37
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SbCl3why is reiserfs not an option when partitioning in this new graphical environment??03:38
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seishinbyouIt's an option on the GParted LiveCD03:39
SbCl3that's for Ubuntu, not Kubuntu, i think03:40
SbCl3or can you get it to do that on the Kubuntu live CD?03:40
JucatoSbCl3: it's not an option in any of the Desktop CD installers yet...03:40
HawkwindSbCl3: If you're using the Alternate CD then ReiserFS is an option03:41
HawkwindI use ReisferFS exclusively03:41
Jucatobut the standalone GParted or QtParted would probably have those options03:41
Jucatopoor reiser...03:41
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seishinbyouSbCl3: I just fired up Gparted in Kubuntu, ReiserFS support is there03:41
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Jucatoseishinbyou: but not in the Live CD's :)03:42
cpk2i wonder what is going to happen to reiserfs no03:42
Jucatoseishinbyou: ohayou :)03:42
cpk2now*03:42
seishinbyoureiserfs was killed /jk03:42
Jucatocpk2: hopefully, it will still continue, according to a Linux.com article03:42
seishinbyou btw, Jucato03:42
Jucatoseishinbyou: still can't read CJK here lol03:42
seishinbyouSo, pretty boxes?03:43
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Jucatoyeah03:43
kjeldergseishinbyou:  03:43
kjelderggenki?03:43
Jucatoooh boxex!!03:43
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seishinbyou03:44
seishinbyouand a partridge in a pear tree03:44
kjeldergzannen desu ne03:44
seishinbyouEh, it's life in the big office/city/Tokyo03:44
Jucatolol03:44
seishinbyouTokyo...city... lol03:44
kjeldergseishinbyou: was glad to be in a smaller city than toukyou03:44
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kjeldergthat place was insane03:45
kjeldergthough akiba surely is good prices03:45
seishinbyouWell, I live in Nagano for 3 years, was transferred to Yokohama for 303:45
kjeldergooh, 6 years *drool*03:45
seishinbyouNow I end up living in (da)Saitama and working in Kiba (Eastern part of Tokyo)03:45
kjeldergI only had one year at utunomiya daigaku03:45
seishinbyouActually, I have been here almost 9 now03:45
kjelderglikin' it, I take it?03:45
seishinbyouYes, though family keeps me anchored here, too03:46
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Jucatomy dream vacation...03:46
Jucatoso near, yet so far... :(03:46
__mikemI also would love to go to japan some day?03:46
seishinbyouIf you can program, get your way around Linux, etc., we are hiring...03:46
seishinbyouwww.invio.co.jp03:46
kjeldergooh ...03:46
Jucatoooh03:46
kjelderghow's the pay?03:46
seishinbyouWe are severely understaffed03:46
virtexi wanna learn to read it at least03:46
cpk2seishinbyou: have you heard of JET?03:47
seishinbyouPay is very good03:47
virtexjapanese that is03:47
Jucatonow to study programming, and hope the offer's still good in a few years. :P03:47
seishinbyouYes, I did the whole JET thing for 1 year...03:47
cpk2thats what I am going to try to do when i graduate ^^03:47
kjeldergseishinbyou: I'm at IBM right now doing Linux Technology Centre specialising in High Performance Computers ... any openings in that sort of area?03:47
seishinbyouThe pay is great on JET, you don't do much of anything...it is like a dream world for a whiel03:47
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dragonflysevenOK, since you are all of topic, and I don't want to rtfm, how do you make something echo till you hit ctrl + z (or whatever)?03:48
bbtcould someone help me out with samba. i just cannot seem to get it to work on kubuntu.03:48
Jucatohehe ok really getting off-topic :)03:48
cpk2rofl03:48
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seishinbyoukjelderg: We do a lot of PHP and Ruby on Rails works. with some .NET on the side for one of the bigger projects03:48
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seishinbyouSystem Administration is a definite plus as we do maintenance and setup/installation as well03:49
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Jucato(could someone try to help bbt?)03:49
virtexi know php... can't read any japanese tho :p03:49
Jucatodragonflyseven: you might want to check out the #bash channel03:49
dragonflysevenYou and your "don't ask stupid questions to the wrong people." Fine, I will. :)03:50
Jucatodragonflyseven: heh. I'm just saying that you might get better answers there03:51
Jucato:)03:51
dragonflysevenOk, I will try it out.03:51
Jucato(and they're too busy in offtopic chat anyway...)03:51
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dragonflysevenOK, #bash is idling.03:53
Jucatoaw. :(03:53
cpk2actually kubuntu-offtopic is dead as usual =P03:53
dragonflysevenOh, one person!03:53
dragonflysevenWho says "hello."03:54
dragonflyseven#kubuntu is off topic. :) Thats ok.03:54
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Jucatocpk2: yeah kinda strange and annoying at the same time... lots of offtopic conversation here, but the offtopic channel is basically dead...03:54
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dragonflysevenI will join offtopic if someone else does.03:55
cpk2dragonflyseven: with those kind of channels you just need lots of patience and someone will get around to reading your question =)03:55
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dragonflysevencpk2: But patience is boring! I will just get someone I know to teach me.03:57
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Jucatohm.. such is not the way of Linux :)03:58
systestAnyone have any pointers to getting lircd running?  I can access the device, but the daemon isn't responding as expected.03:58
cpk2ok i have a very naughty app somewhere03:59
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seishinbyouYou know it is going to be a long day when you start reviewing coworkers' source code for some strange "bug" and find "exec("rm -rf / " . $pathname");04:00
cpk2ahaha04:00
Jucatowhoa04:00
cpk2oh boy04:00
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cpk2watch it was /home/seishinbyou04:01
cpk2=P04:01
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seishinbyouHe made a temporary directory/file structure for some routine04:01
seishinbyouand that was how he "cleaned" it04:01
seishinbyouThank God (tm) I didn't run it first04:01
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varicello04:02
varicellowhen they go to liberate the 6.1004:02
varicello?04:02
Jucatoliberate?04:02
dragonflysevenThe 29th?04:02
dragonflyseven26th*04:02
Jucato26th04:02
Jucato!schedule04:03
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:03
Jucatoaaah "release"...04:03
MadRabbit320the geico lizard04:03
varicelloJucade :)04:04
campbchnice04:04
campbchanyone know why my tray icons keep lining up like --- when they have room and i would like them to line up like ::: ?04:04
Jucatocampbch: set Kicker to a Custome size of 4804:05
campbchswitching to larger size and back fixes it...04:05
campbchalright, ill see if it sticks :D04:05
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pam__hello04:06
dragonflysevenpam: hello04:06
campbchbye pam!04:06
campbch:(04:07
cpk2lol04:07
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Jucatolol04:07
dekadjusting brightness/constrast in Kaffeine doesn't work. Any idea how to fix it?04:08
seishinbyou"Can I borrow that thing that burns DVDs?" "A DVD Burner?" "Yeah" <- Yep, it is going to be a loooooooong day04:09
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Fenix-Darkhi04:09
cpk2well my day here is over =D04:09
cpk2it s7 pm!04:09
Jucatolol04:09
Fenix-Darkhow do i get gnome on kubuntu?04:09
dragonflysevenseishinbyou: my day was already long. its 8:00!04:09
Jucatossshh!! don't tell him!!!04:09
dragonflysevenpm!04:09
Jucatokidding04:09
seishinbyouIt's only 11AM here... still a ways to go04:10
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JucatoFenix-Dark: you just need to install "ubuntu-desktop"04:10
dragonflysevenYou nad your fancy time zones.04:10
dragonflysevenand*04:10
Jucato10:10 AM here04:10
cpk2but hey lunch is soon!04:10
Fenix-DarkJucato, ok04:10
Jucatoyeah... I'm getting a wee bit hungry04:10
cpk2but you just had break jucato04:10
Jucatono I didn't :)04:11
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cpk2well you should have =P04:12
JucatoI know...04:12
Jucato:(04:12
cpk2quick run to the vending machine!04:12
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Jucatobwahahaha04:13
campbch:o what was the command to refresh the k menu?04:13
Jucatokbuildsycoca --incremental04:13
campbchwhat exactly does that do? and isn't it supposed to refresh automatically?04:13
Jucatocampbch: it's supposed to. but I think in Dapper it's a bit fscked up...04:14
Jucatomaybe in Edgy it works better04:14
cpk2you can right click the kmenu then go to menu editor and save it immeadiatly04:14
cpk2that will refresh it too04:14
Jucatoprobably :)04:14
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Jucato(although I have the command as a K Menu entry so it's quicker for me :P)04:14
seishinbyouYou could be like the Windowzzz users here and place an icon for every file on your computer on your desktop :O04:15
Jucatoheh. some Linux users seem to like that too04:15
seishinbyouOr multiple desktops...04:15
Jucatoor some Linux users fill up the desktop with widgets04:15
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seishinbyouOh, isn't that a messed up idea.  One desktop for the sole purpose of icons04:16
Jucatoheheh04:16
campbch:p04:16
dragonflysevenIcons are irritating. They make you use the mouse.04:16
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Jucatojust look at your regular real life desktop and you'll stop wondering why Windows desktops are like that :P04:17
dragonflysevenOne summer I didn't have a mouse, so I am really used to using the keyboard.04:17
cpk2hrmm I have 8 desktops and 1 icon, my mounted cd04:17
campbch:p04:17
cpk2sometimes I have a mounted usb drive icon too04:17
dylan_has anyone ever encountered a problem where in windows the wireless conection signal is low but it works just fine and in linux it won't connect at all?04:17
MadRabbit320ok, where do I go to change my cursor? and plz don't respond "bathroom"04:17
campbch:p04:18
campbchkde-look.org04:18
dylan_i am in the same location..but if i move closer to the router it will connect....04:18
cpk2you can change your cursor in the bathroom?04:18
JucatoMadRabbit320: you can download cursor themes from kde-look.org. They can be changed in System Settings -> Mouse04:18
seishinbyouso, move closer to the router?04:18
cpk2MadRabbit320: are you still trying to use those .cur files you have?04:18
dylan_>seishinbyou< obviously thats what I did i just wanted to know if nayone else has had this problem it is a bit weird it works in one os and not in another....04:19
campbchcheck router power settings? i know on mine at home you can set a power level 1-10 to boost signal... linux has been pickier on this network, i see as well. it fades in and out more often, but it still connects04:19
seishinbyouMy built-in wireless has worked the same in both Windows and Linux, so I can't relate to your problem, unfortunately :(04:19
MadRabbit320cpk2: y, icotool did move it, but eye still  fuzzy gonna hafta shut myself down soon04:20
campbchsw38270404:21
campbch...04:21
cpk2MadRabbit320: alright if you did icotool -x some.cur then i think icon-slicer will make it into a mouse theme you can use04:21
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MadRabbit320cpk2: ok, neverending battle to see a stupid arrow...04:24
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cpk2MadRabbit320: so make sure that you move the .cur out of the directory with all the .png's that icotool extracted and then use icon-slicer...04:24
cpk2i think it will be icon-slicer --image-dir=dirwherethepng'sare --output-dir=somewhereeasytofind04:25
MadRabbit320cpk2: only extracted that one, not a set04:25
cpk2MadRabbit320: icotools -x some.cur only extracted one .png?04:26
dylan__so has anyone else experience my problem04:26
MadRabbit320cpk2: icotool wouldn't extr the one I saved as a .png, but DID extr the one as a .cur04:27
cpk2MadRabbit320: icotool only works on .cur and I was under the impression it would extract several .png04:28
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maryenlo'04:29
guest11101do i keep connecting and disconnecting?04:29
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[GuS] Hey people04:30
[GuS] what happen with keyboard conf? with latest upgrade of Edgy04:30
DaSkreech[GuS] : What about the non people?04:30
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[GuS] well.. hey users! hey aliens! hey something!04:30
[GuS] :P04:30
jon_lol04:30
MadRabbit320cpk2: finally figured I had to cd to the folder I put them (.png AND .cur) into, then run icotool.  ran it 1st on the png; couldn't...then ran same phrase on the cur; said it extracted it.04:31
[GuS] the thing is... something happen with the keyboard layout04:31
jon_whatss up all04:31
[GuS] every keyboard layout dissapear from the menu04:31
maryenwhy is ubuntu considered a newbie distro?04:31
cpk2MadRabbit320: ok, we only need to deal with the .cur when using icotool. icotool will then give us (hopefully several) png04:31
[GuS] (inside systemsettings)04:32
maryenseems pretty hardcore to me04:32
DaSkreechmaryen: It is?04:32
maryennahhh04:32
DaSkreechmaryen: I thought that was freespire or Xandors?04:32
[GuS] lol04:32
[GuS] what uggly lnx distros those...04:32
Jucatomaryen: it's newbie friendly, yet flexible enough to accomodate powerusers04:32
MadRabbit320cpk2: np, Im making progress by leaps & bounds thanks to you (and several others)04:33
maryenwell slacky users call it a newbie distro04:33
[GuS] repeat, somebody has Edgy here?04:33
maryenyes04:33
dragonflysevenI do.04:33
[GuS] ok04:33
dragonflysevenHave edgy, that is.04:33
maryen[GuS] : I DO04:33
Jucatolol compared to Slack, of course we are...04:33
maryencaps04:33
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[GuS] do you have configured your own keyboard layout? or you use the default english?04:33
cpk2MadRabbit320: we are going to start clean with this. make a folder in your home directory called testcursor and copy the .cur into it04:34
maryendefault works fine now04:34
DaSkreechJucato: Slack Pffft that's for wimps04:34
MadRabbit320cpk2: I was gettin' close to sticking this hd back into a windows box for mp3 storage04:34
DaSkreechJucato: Haiku now that's a distro :)04:34
JucatoDaSkreech: lol :)04:34
maryenit recognizes my special buttons too04:34
Jucatothe BeOS fork?04:34
[GuS] because now with latest upgrade of Edgy.... in the menu where you select the "flag" for the keyboard layout... has nothing in it... not flags...04:34
DaSkreechJucato: Yup :)04:34
Jucatoah04:34
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JucatoI like the name, though I'm not sure about the OS :)04:34
cpk2MadRabbit320: then cd into ~/testcursor and do icotool -x some.cur04:34
MadRabbit320cpk2: ok, in the process...04:34
DaSkreechJucato: Getting close to a release but you still have to code your own kernel to get it to boot. That's a real man's machine04:34
[GuS] i wil take a screen04:34
Jucatoouch04:34
maryen[GuS] : try adding languages?04:35
[GuS] thats the problem04:35
[GuS] the flags dissapears...04:35
DaSkreechHope it get's support though Would be funny to have Vista's features matched by a OS 6 years old :-D04:35
maryeni've still got em04:35
[GuS] (i am not newbie... just in case guys... lets save time..)04:35
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maryenhmm strange04:35
[GuS] i've upgrade in another Edgy installation04:36
[GuS] and the same happens04:36
[GuS] i have latest packages upgraded04:36
maryensame gimme the screen04:36
[GuS] i used to configure in Spanish and with Genius KB-21e keyboard there04:36
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[GuS] ok04:36
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Jucatogo go go Commit Digest :P04:37
[GuS] http://www.gdnet.com.ar/downloads/pub/kubuntu/Kubuntu-Edgy-RC.png04:37
[GuS] tthere04:37
[GuS] look04:37
[GuS] i've deleted all the configs from KDE, and copied again kubuntu-defaults and is the same04:38
[GuS] and this happen after latest upgrade of edgy...04:38
maryenperhaps something wrong with the es packages?04:38
[GuS] maybe... and for sure.04:38
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maryenbecause i don't have this problem, and im fully upgraded as well04:39
[GuS] because now i cant type deadkeys either...04:39
[GuS] i will ask in #Ubuntu too maybe is a know bug.04:39
maryenjust did an apt-get update to be sure04:39
Jucato[GuS] : or in #ubuntu+104:40
[GuS] ok04:40
MadRabbit320cpk2: now have a png in that folder04:40
cpk2MadRabbit320: just one?04:40
MadRabbit320cpk2: folder has the .cur I put there ANd a .png that was just created04:41
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cpk2MadRabbit320: try icotool -x some.cur -o ~/testcursor04:44
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MadRabbit320cpk2: btdt, no indication of anything done.  still ONE cur and ONE png in the folder04:48
cpk2hrmm ok i was under the impression there would be several pngs extracted04:48
cpk2time to use icon-slicer i guess04:48
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[GuS] well... no one knows what is going on....??04:49
skreechOk04:49
[GuS] http://www.gdnet.com.ar/downloads/pub/kubuntu/Kubuntu-Edgy-RC.png04:49
skreechSo I started Kopete and now nothing works in X but the mouse04:49
skreech?04:49
skreechAnyone seen that before?04:50
MadRabbit320cpk2: if only one item was there; "I;m" thinking only ONE would show up (w/a diff file extension)04:50
skreechMan I so need to jump to Edgy04:50
skreechcan I Ping a program?04:51
cpk2MadRabbit320: what does icotool -l some.cur say?04:51
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skreechX programs should have a ping :(04:51
MadRabbit320cpk2 slicing/dicing happens tomorrow, i have to get up in 4 hours...04:51
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skreechDaSkreech: Hello?04:52
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skreechArgh! That works :(04:52
cpk2MadRabbit320: alright night, but would be nice to know if icotool -l some.cur only lists one thing04:52
skreechJucato: Have any extra paitence?04:53
seishinbyouJucato isn't a doctor.  He doesn't have patience.04:53
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skreechseishinbyou: Ehh What's Up Doc?04:54
MadRabbit320cpk2: results are as follows: --cursor --index=1 --width=32 --height=32 --bit-depth=4 --palette-size=16 --hotspot-x=0 --hotspot-y=004:54
cpk2MadRabbit320: ok i guess there is just one png in there after all04:55
MadRabbit320cpk2: that what ya wanted to see?04:55
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cpk2yup04:55
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bbtffs, i cannot ftp or smb to / from kubuntu / vmware winxp04:56
bbtalthough i can do all that from vmware and another box04:56
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fernandohi! I want to install vnc4server? Should I uninstall krfb first?04:58
alxsandovalhola04:58
alxsandovalhoy por primera vez instale kubuntu!!!04:58
skreechIs it just me or has KDe consistently openend more bugs than it has closed ?04:58
alxsandovalalguien puede decir algo04:58
skreech!es04:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:58
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MadRabbit320cpk2: I can understand having more if I started w/a set of cursors or icons, but I'm thinking "one" file yields "one" converted file04:59
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cpk2MadRabbit320: there could be several in a .ico but i guess not in a .cur maybe04:59
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alxsandovallinux esta padrisimo04:59
cpk2este canal en ingles05:00
fernandoalx: por alli hay un kubuntu-es05:00
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alxsandovalWhat I can not speak in Espanish?05:01
skreechalxsandoval: If you are please go to #kubuntu-es05:01
fernandohay un canal para espaol, el problema es que tiene poca gente05:01
skreechThat would be very helpful. Muchas gracias :)05:01
alxsandovalok05:02
cpk2alxsandoval: I suppose you can speak in spanish but it will be hard to get the answers to your questions using spanish in here seeing as how I doubt very many of us are fluent in spanish05:02
alxsandovalbye05:02
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MadRabbit320cpk2: dunno, but my eye is telling my asp to get some rest...thanks again for helping!  not nearly as gunshy over a little penguin; penguins aren't just for breakfast anymore!05:03
cpk2haha05:03
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cpk2MadRabbit320: alright i suppose you will be back tomorrow =P05:03
fernandoshould I uninstall krfb completely in order to install vnc 4 for remote admin?05:04
MadRabbit320cpk2: sure will; be damned if a penguin's gonna beat me05:04
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skreechAhhh Why can't I ping programs?05:05
MadRabbit320cpk2: although for a while ha was stompin' real hard05:05
Kim^JBaahh.... I forgot to sleep... :/05:05
sorush20hi05:05
sorush20I'm trying to run hardware raid, but it is not building05:06
skreechhi05:06
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motorheaddamn..05:07
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Jucatoskreech: sorry I was away :(05:08
Kim^JHe didn't have much to say... :(05:08
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maryenDaSkreech turned into normal skreech05:08
maryen?05:08
skreechJucato: Hiya05:09
skreechmaryen: Ja!05:09
seishinbyouHmm, how to get a Quickcam  working under ekiga...05:09
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Jucatowhat happened to you? DaSkreech got shrinked?05:09
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skreechJucato: good guess05:10
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JucatoI forgot to say "itadakimasu" a while ago :P05:10
skreech!webcam05:10
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:10
skreechJucato: I started kopete and now only the mouse responds in X05:10
skreechand it just occured to me you can't ping programs esp X programs which seems deficent05:11
morphishwhat's the recommended method to build a kernel for kubuntu?05:11
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Kim^Jmorphish: The usual?05:11
Jucatoskreech: err... :(05:12
Kim^Jdl the kernel and make menuconfig05:12
skreechyeah I know05:12
morphisha way that makes having the same/most patches including the bootsplash and all easier05:12
skreechIt's taking up CPU time as well so ... not sure05:12
Jucatothe recommended method to build a kernel is not to build at all :)05:12
Jucatoj/k05:12
morphishJucato: now that sounds more like what i expected to hear!05:13
Kim^Jmorphish: You are talking about recompiling the kernel right?05:13
Jucatomorphish: I was just kidding :P05:13
morphishKim^J: i most certainly do, but i am not talking about building a vanilla kernel05:13
Kim^Jmorphish: make oldconfig05:14
Kim^Jthen05:14
Kim^Jadd what you need.05:14
Kim^JI think it's oldconfig...05:14
Kim^Jnot really shure...05:14
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Kim^Jgoogle it05:14
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morphishKim^J: and where does the bootsplash is coming from?05:15
morphishKim^J: thanks, i know how to build a vanilla kernel, sorry i didn't specify i didn't ask about a vanilla kernel05:15
Kim^Jmorphish: How long have you been using Linux?05:15
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morphishKim^J: guessing? 6 years maybe, and i usually build vanilla kernels....that i don't need help with ;P05:16
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morphishKim^J: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild is perhaps what i was after.05:20
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purpleposeidonwhat does it mean if you get a bouncey grey block instead of a bouncy icon?05:24
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NightBirdpurpleposeidon, that kubuntu had problems loading the icon for the program for some reason?05:25
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cpk2maybe that WAS the icon? =P05:28
Jucatohehe...05:29
NightBirdmaybe05:29
purpleposeidoncpk2: no, for all of them.05:29
NightBirdah05:29
NightBirdew05:29
NightBirddo the programs load fine?05:29
Jucatook that's not normal...05:29
purpleposeidonyeah....05:29
Jucatoas in *all* programs?05:29
Jucatocould be a messed up icon theme...05:29
NightBirdmaybe05:29
purpleposeidonyes, /all/05:29
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JucatoNightBird: it will05:30
Jucatorestarting X wil shutdown everything that's dependent on X05:30
NightBirdah05:30
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NightBirdpurpleposeidon, have you tried that?(of course, killing all of those programs might make it not worth it...)05:31
purpleposeidonno....... it's the program thing05:31
NightBirdah restarting.... what Windows has trained me to do for a long time now... >>05:32
Jucatowell, restarting X and restarting Windows isn't really the same :)05:32
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Jucatorestarting Windows = rebooting. restarting X = just X :)05:32
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NightBirdJucato, no, I mean going for the drastic measure to see if that works05:32
JucatoNightBird: ehehe well sometimes, restarting X really is a solution :)05:33
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NightBirdheh05:33
RatKingWhat is the text command to delete something? I can't find it with google :(05:33
Jucatorm <file>05:34
Jucato!bash05:34
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:34
JucatoRatKing: might wanna check up on that page ^^^^^^05:34
RatKingTHanks mate05:34
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PenguinistaKCDoes anyone have a tip for putting Konsole in the right-click context menu?05:40
JucatoF8 or F405:41
DaSkreechPenguinistaKC: What?05:41
JucatoPenguinistaKC: you can try pressing F8 or F4.05:41
PenguinistaKCneither one seem to be working05:42
Jucatooh in Konqueror. sorry05:42
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PenguinistaKCDaSkreech: konsole is buried under the system menu, but I use Konsole constantly.05:42
seishinbyoudamn, guess this webcam just isn't supported05:42
DaSkreechPenguinistaKC: one word05:42
DaSkreechyakuake05:42
PenguinistaKCI would like to try to put it in my right-click context menu so I can get to it any time I want05:42
JucatoPenguinistaKC: right-click where?05:42
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PenguinistaKCOn the desktop05:43
Jucatoseishinbyou: aw.. :(05:43
Jucatoah05:43
JucatoPenguinistaKC: would it be much faster if you made a keyboard shortcut for Konsole instead?05:43
DaSkreechseishinbyou: Yall come back you hear?05:43
Jucatoor use Yakuake as DaSkreech mentioned?05:43
DaSkreechPenguinistaKC: One word :)05:43
DaSkreechyakuake05:43
PenguinistaKCWhat is yakuake05:43
Jucato!yakuake05:43
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB05:43
seishinbyouYep, I'll be back later05:43
seishinbyou*grumble* stupid company I've never heard of producing a webcam I've never seen before *grumble*05:44
DaSkreechPenguinistaKC: apt-get install yakuake05:44
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JucatoPenguinistaKC: it's a terminal emulator (something like Konsole) that drops down, ala Quake-style, when you press F1205:44
DaSkreechsudo of course05:44
PenguinistaKCThat is cool. I'll check it out05:44
JucatoDaSkreech: the only disadvantage I see with Yakuake is that it doesn't share the bash history with Konsole... good thing it shares aliases05:45
DaSkreechJucato: Meh after a while I forget konsole exists unless firefox is being stupid05:45
Jucatolol05:45
DaSkreechyakuake existing on all desktops by far makes up for that05:45
Jucatowithout Konsole, yakuake would be gimped :)05:46
flaccidi'm going to run out of beer. not good.05:46
Jucatoflaccid: time to drink something healthier then :P05:46
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HawkwindBacardi 151 Rum!!!!!!!!05:46
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Jucatokubuntu: I'm only saying that because Yakuake uses a lot of Konsole's settings/features05:47
flaccidsure Hawkwind send it to me05:47
Jucatonight Hawkwind :)05:47
flaccidhey Hawkwind realise i was right bout mp3/k3b?05:47
DaSkreechNight Hawkwind05:47
kubuntuJucato: i'm only saying that because i wanted to say something05:47
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virtexhow do i manually mount a drive as root but give other users access ?05:47
kubuntuHawkwind: 'night :)05:47
Jucatokubuntu: ok. if you say so :)05:47
virtexwhat options do i need to use05:48
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virtexanyone ?05:50
morghanphoenixhow do you check your kernel version05:50
Jucatomorghanphoenix: uname -r05:51
DaSkreechvirtex: users05:51
DaSkreechand try man mount :)05:51
virtexi'm in man mount and i've used the users command in the fstab i just wanted to mount it and copy some stuff off it and then i'm taking it out so i didn't wanna add it to the fstab05:52
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morghanphoenixThanks, this display is killing my eyes, trying to enable nvidia support to replace the old ati card I just pulled, the flickering is killing my eyes.05:53
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DaSkreechHow do I select the address bar in konqueror without destroying the URL?05:55
morghanphoenixCross your fingers for me, restarting x05:55
JucatoDaSkreech: F6 or Ctrl+L?05:56
DaSkreechAh F605:57
DaSkreechCtrl+l destroys the URL05:57
Jucatoit does?05:57
DaSkreechYeah05:57
Jucatonever destroyed it for me. all it does is highlight the URL05:57
Jucatowhich F6 does too05:57
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morghanphoenix I can see again05:59
Jucatohehe :)05:59
Jucatoyou're no longer X-blind05:59
morghanphoenixWow, running a nvidia card when you're set up for an ati one is nasty06:00
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morghanphoenixI just multiplied my vram by about 100 times though06:00
morghanphoenixso it's all good in the end06:00
morghanphoenixI can barely see all the little words06:01
morghanphoenixeek, that's why, 2048x1536!06:01
morghanphoenixHow do I check direct rendering, make sure it's on?06:02
Jucatoglxgears ?06:02
bbtglxinfo|grep direct06:03
Jucatooh there :)06:03
morghanphoenixYES!06:03
morghanphoenixFinally06:03
morghanphoenixI pays to use a video card made in this millinium06:03
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DaSkreechmorghanphoenix: No YOU pay to use a Video card made in this millenium06:05
morghanphoenixtrue, but only $40, so I think it was well worth it.06:05
morghanphoenixnvidia geforce mx400006:06
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DaSkreechThey gypped ya :)06:06
Jucatoheh that's my card, too :P06:06
DaSkreechGyyyyyp06:07
morghanphoenixOnly place that'd let me take it back if it didn't work06:07
JucatoNVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB RAM :P06:07
morghanphoenixpaid for the insurance, I guess.06:07
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Jucatoit's the best among the cheapest at the time I bought it (a year ago)06:07
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Galathalionif u accept a picture in kopete, where is it saved?06:08
Galathalion:>06:08
morghanphoenixCheck your kopete settings06:08
morghanphoenixit's got a section for downloads, the path is there06:08
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Galathalioncant find anything06:09
jon_i know this may not be the right place to ask but none of the other ubuntu channels seem to hear me06:09
JucatoGalathalion: try in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ?06:10
jon_i changed an option in my gtk themes and now gnome is trashed06:10
jon_is there a way to revert to default06:10
morghanphoenixhow do you add xscreensavers to your screen saver options?06:10
Jucatomorghanphoenix: the ones installed with the xscreensavers package?06:10
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Jucatoit has its own configuration dialog. won't see in KDE's screensaver settings06:11
morghanphoenixYes, just added the package, but no new screensavers06:11
DaSkreechjon_: Which option?06:11
jon_i was looking at icon packages06:12
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Jucatolike I said, it does its own thing. KDE won't control it. I forgot which command launches the xscreensaver settings though06:12
jon_and i clicked one and it killed everything06:12
jon_specifically the error i get if i try to run gnome-theme-manager is "(gnome-theme-manager:21770): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for kubuntu has no directories"06:12
DaSkreech?06:13
jon_i clicked the kubuntu icon set06:13
DaSkreechAh06:13
DaSkreechcan you run gnome-theme-manager from the command line?06:13
DaSkreechand point it at something correct?06:13
jon_thats the error i get when i run it and it quits06:13
DaSkreechjon_: And you tried pointing it to a correct icon set?06:14
jon_i was just looking around, i have no idea if the kubuntu icon set was correct, but now i have no way of changing it back that i know of06:14
jon_is there a .conf file i can revert06:15
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virtexi got all the drives mounted but can't write to the new linux partitions i made..... added defaults and users to the fstab for options do i need to add other things ???06:16
jon_DaSkreech: is there a settings file that contains the theme info i can just remove/revert06:16
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DaSkreechjon_: I would highly suspect so. Looked in ~/.gnome ?06:17
jon_nothing there that looks relevant06:17
DaSkreechWhere else have you asked?06:18
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jon_i tried ubuntu and ubuntu+1 but no one responded06:18
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DaSkreechat all?06:18
jon_at all06:19
DaSkreechthis is edgy?06:19
jon_yeah06:19
jon_but i wouldnt think it would be specific06:19
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DaSkreechMe either06:20
DaSkreechthe man file doesn't point you anywhere?06:20
Jucatomost of the active guys in #ubuntu are probably sleeping... (12mn in EST, 4am in UTC)06:21
jon_nope06:21
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DaSkreechdoes lsof have anything useful?06:23
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jon_im not sure what that is06:26
lainprolianthello :)06:26
lainproliantWhat is the proper way to install kdevelop3?06:26
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install kdevelop?06:27
sudharshlainproliant: apt-get install kdevelop?06:27
lainproliantit works and all (after i fix its quirks with automake), but what do i need in order to compile KDE apps and Qt and such?06:27
lainproliantyeah i know06:27
lainproliantsudo aptitude install kdevelop306:27
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lainproliantwhat i mean is what is the proper way to install support for compiling KDE apps?06:27
DaSkreechsudo apt-get build-dep kde I think06:28
lainprolianti can compile the simplest of console apps but i get lots of undeclared stuff when i go and try to compile the KDE Application Hello World, and i know that this must be because of missing dev libraries06:28
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lainproliantbuild-dep-kde?06:28
lainproliantoh06:28
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DaSkreechAssuming that you have your source repos06:28
lainprolianti do06:28
lainproliantcool ^_^06:29
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lainprolianthopefully this works06:29
lainprolianti can't wait to get to GUI development :P06:29
dhqhow to to install bluetooth06:30
dhqi use kde06:30
lainprolianti am somewhat new with Linux but I adapt very well to GUI toolkits06:30
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dhqfdoving: you there06:31
lainproliant^_^06:31
lainprolianti <3 kde06:31
morghanphoenixThanks for reminding me I needed build-essential on my fresh install, always seem to forget that.06:32
lainproliantlol yeah its kinda creepy to not be able to compile stuff immediately :P it catches you off guard lol06:32
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morghanphoenixOnly distro I've used that doesn't have it to begin with.06:33
lainprolianthmm >_>06:34
morghanphoenixArgh, openssh-server too, all these little things I keep forgetting I need.06:34
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lainproliantstlll getting funny compile time errors06:34
lainproliant*** Creating Makefile templates06:35
lainproliantaclocal.m4:5298: invalid unused variable name: `SSL_LDFLAGS'06:35
lainproliantand so on06:35
DaSkreechjon_: #fedora ? :-)06:35
lainprolianti have a feeling that something is up with my build enviornment06:36
Galathalionhow do i unrar a .rar?06:36
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DaSkreechGalathalion: you install unrar06:37
sudharshGalathalion: you gotta install rar06:37
Galathalionwich one?06:37
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jon_DaSkreech: i'll try there06:39
DaSkreech!unrar06:39
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free06:40
lainproliantmeh something has to be wacky06:40
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lainprolianttutorials show very little to no setup needed after installing KDevelop before compiling programs06:40
lainproliantand i'm having all kinds of quirky errors lol06:40
Galathalionwhen i try t unrar a file it says it failed06:41
Galathalion:<06:41
morghanphoenixYou have permission for the path?06:42
Galathalionmeaning im root?06:42
lainproliantyeah Galathalion try sudo in front of your command06:42
lainproliantand then enter your root password when prompted06:43
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Galathalionok i got it thnx06:45
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jon_(gtk-theme-switch2:22460): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for tango has no directories06:46
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jon_oops, wrong channel06:46
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lainproliantGrr :(06:48
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lainproliantKDevelop is making me mad :P06:48
lainproliantit looks like lots of fun but i can't get projects to compile06:48
lainproliantaclocal.m4:1850: invalid unused variable name: `KDE_LDFLAGS'06:49
lainproliantand many others lol06:49
xsacha:(06:49
lainproliantthis happens during the step "Creating Makefile templates"06:49
lainproliantit is something really simple06:49
lainproliantit looks like a bunch of undeclared variables06:49
lainproliantmeaning that some package must be missing06:49
marc_What do I need to do to make konqueror allow me to see "/" as a normal user?06:49
lainproliantbut i don't know what it is that is missing lol06:49
xsachai've never compiled anything on linux yet, only windows -- do a lot of c++ work on there06:49
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lainproliantkdesu konqueror /06:50
lainproliantsame here06:50
xsachahe means as a normal user :P06:50
lainproliantoh06:50
lainprolianthehe06:50
lainproliantoopses06:50
xsachawell /bin and /etc still work as normal user but you cant see them, so there must be an option06:50
xsachasomeone said ctrl+F6 once or something, im gonna test it out06:50
morghanphoenixI don't like this chess engine, I have it set on retarded and it's still stomping me.06:51
lainproliantwell, i'm going to see how much luck i have with Anjuta06:51
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marc_Its very annoying and the ctrl+f6does not work06:51
morghanphoenixI know I'm not that good, but I'm definatly not that bad either.06:51
lainproliantif i get the same kinds of problems then there is something terribly wrong with my build enviornment and i need to repair it06:51
xsachaok marc_ run it as sudo but then right click -> properties and make your user be able to view contents06:52
xsachain Permissions06:52
lainproliantah cool06:52
lainproliantthat would work06:52
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lainprolianthello morphish06:53
lainprolianthow are you today?06:53
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morphishlainproliant: uh, ok? you?06:53
lainproliantdoing good ^_^06:53
lainprolianttrying to figure out why KDevelop is barfing at me06:53
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lainproliantlol sorries :(06:54
lainproliantlol06:54
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morphishlainproliant: np, no need to :(06:55
lainproliantokies06:55
xsachahehe messing around with beryl :D 300 dps on this sucky video card06:55
xsachafps*06:55
lainproliantlol06:55
lainproliantwow06:55
lainproliantMy friend has Beryl on his PPC Mac and it works pretty well06:56
lainprolianthe runs Gentoo06:56
morghanphoenixWow, 3d acceleration makes a LOT of difference, drops my cpu usage a great deal too.06:56
xsacharadeon 9600... 300 fps... i get 40 fps on vista aero :(06:56
lainproliantyeah06:56
xsachai never go above 10% cpu usage either06:56
lainproliantaww06:56
xsachai dont know about those effects like "burn" though, havent tested those out yet06:56
morghanphoenixI was using an ati rage 128 pro untill an hour ago06:57
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xsachahah06:57
morghanphoenixmade in '9806:57
xsachayeah06:57
SHRIKEEhow to check if 3d acceleration is on?06:57
morghanphoenixtop of the line then06:57
SHRIKEEand if its not, how to do it06:57
xsachaSHRIKEE:  glxinfo | grep direct06:57
SHRIKEEthanks06:57
xsachaif you're in Xgl, it will say no but it is really yes06:57
xsachaXgl means you do have 3d acceleration :)06:58
SHRIKEEthat tells me "direct rendering: yes"06:58
xsachagood you have 3d accel06:58
morghanphoenixI can actually see the purtee pikturz when the screensavers kick in, I had to use blank screen before.06:58
SHRIKEEthanks :)06:58
morghanphoenixNext test, can I play bobsled with a penguin?06:59
lainprolianthmm Anjuta fails06:59
lainproliantbut i think i know at least half of what is missing in its case06:59
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SHRIKEEcan anyone tell me how to determine my chipset, to see if its supported in lm-sensors?07:01
xsachalspci -nv07:02
morghanphoenixWhere do the KDM setting hide? It was in system settings before, am I possibly missing a package? Trying to spice up my log in screen just a bit.07:02
fignewSHRIKEE: what information do you want from lm-sensors?07:02
fignewjust temp?07:02
xsachamorg, advanced -> session manager?07:03
fignewor also fanspeed?07:03
SHRIKEEwell, when i install lm-sensors it doesnt detect anything07:03
xsachai think he means his videocard07:03
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SHRIKEEim on a centrino laptop and i need to control my fan indeed07:03
morghanphoenixwhere is session manager?07:03
xsachain advanced07:03
fignewSHRIKEE: I don't think lm-sensors will let you change fanspeed07:03
fignewbut07:03
fignew1 sec07:03
SHRIKEEhmm, how can i do it then?07:03
morghanphoenixNothing says advanced, do I need to use kcontrol?07:04
SHRIKEEmorgan open k-menu and click system settings07:04
SHRIKEEtheres a advanced section there i believe07:04
fignewSHRIKEE: run acpi -V07:04
xsachamorghanphoenix: KDE 3.5.5 System Settings->Advanced ?07:04
morghanphoenixNope07:04
xsachait will be up the top07:04
morghanphoenixNothing up top.07:05
SHRIKEEacpi -v, hold on07:05
DaSkreechGood night all07:05
fignewcapital V07:05
xsachait has General and Advanced up the top07:05
SHRIKEE     Battery 1: charged, 100%07:05
SHRIKEENo support for device type: thermal07:05
SHRIKEE  AC Adapter 1: on-line07:05
xsachaunderneath File | View | Settings07:05
fignewwow07:05
morghanphoenixNo menus07:05
fignewwhat type of laptop is it?07:05
SHRIKEEacer travelmate 4152lmi07:05
SHRIKEE1.7ghz centrino intel chipset07:06
SHRIKEEintel915gm07:06
xsachait's not a menu morghanphoenix, it's a button called Advanced below the help.. ?07:06
xsachawhatversion of KDE?07:06
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morghanphoenixShould be 3.5, but this is a fresh install, maybe it's not.07:07
fignewSHRIKEE: 1 sec07:07
SHRIKEEive been looking on the forums, and on google. everything suggests lm-sensors. so i figured that was the way to go :(07:07
xsacha3.5.  5? 3.5.4? 3.5.3?07:07
morghanphoenixhow do I check?07:07
fignewlm-sensor is a pain ;)07:07
xsachausing dapper or edgy morghanphoenix?07:07
morghanphoenixdapper07:08
xsachaoh ok so it's older KDE..07:08
SHRIKEEhah07:08
morghanphoenixI had 3.5.5 before reinstalling, not sure what I've got now.07:08
xsachahm, what exactly do you want to change? you can add sessions by sticking them in Xsessions07:09
morghanphoenixEye candy, themes from kde-look.07:09
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morghanphoenixI have all the session in there.07:09
morghanphoenixIt's just KDE and fluxbox07:10
xsachayou stuck the .desktop in Xsessions and chose it on login?07:10
morghanphoenixeh?07:10
xsacha..07:11
fignewSHRIKEE: I'm stumped...07:11
fignewsorry07:11
xsachatry going into the settings -> appearance and then Splash then07:11
fignewbut fanspeed control is minor07:11
SHRIKEE:(07:11
SHRIKEEstumped how?07:11
fignewjust let the laptop control itself07:11
fignewSHRIKEE: hardly anyone has your laptop07:12
SHRIKEEwell the laptop is not controlling it as far as i can tell07:12
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fignewdoes it get really hot?07:12
SHRIKEEi used to have a program fro macer to do it from windows07:12
SHRIKEEno not hot07:12
fignewso it's all good ;)07:12
SHRIKEEsure, for now07:12
fignewif you want to test it07:12
xsacharun that program in wine :D07:12
SHRIKEEbut when theres no activity the fan used to turn off, it was real silent07:12
fignewto see if the fans turn on/if it gets hot.... check out CPUburn!07:13
xsachadoubt it could access fan though :(07:13
SHRIKEEim trying to get that behaviour07:13
SHRIKEEah07:13
fignewSHRIKEE: so it's running 24/7?07:13
fignewthe fan07:13
SHRIKEEat like 50% speed constantly yes07:13
fignewthat would drive me crazy :(07:13
SHRIKEEyah07:13
SHRIKEEthats why im looking to get it fixed07:13
SHRIKEE;)07:13
fignew:/07:14
SHRIKEEwhats the usual approach for such?07:14
xsachai use headphones and listen to music07:14
fignew1 sec07:14
SHRIKEEbecause im not really sure what software i have to look for under linux to control it07:14
fignewgonna check one more thing07:14
SHRIKEEk, thanks!07:14
xsachabut then again my laptop controls itself and it's only buzzing if it's getting hot :P07:14
SHRIKEEwhat laptop you have?07:14
SHRIKEE*kinda07:15
xsachaHP one.. amd3500+07:15
SHRIKEEah07:15
xsachathe processor scales to how much it is being used, same with fan07:15
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xsachathat's an option in kernel by the way07:15
xsachabut my hardware does it07:15
fignewmy laptop runs silenter in Linux than in windows :)07:15
SHRIKEEhaha07:15
xsachafignew: scaling processor?07:15
fignewbecause the CPU speed is constantly being brought down07:15
SHRIKEEmine eats more power and is noisyier07:15
fignewyep07:16
xsachayeah you put scaling processor in kernel fignew?07:16
fignewnope07:16
fignewKubuntu automatic07:16
xsachabecause windows wont do that for you, gotta rely on hardware07:16
SHRIKEEthe cpu throttling is handled fine i think07:16
xsachafignew: that means it is in kernel :P07:16
fignew...07:16
fignew_I_ didn't configure it07:16
xsachayeah07:16
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xsachageneric one comes with everything07:17
SHRIKEE:(07:17
SHRIKEEoh btw, now were talking powerstuff, what exactly do the powerschemes do07:17
SHRIKEEwhat are the differences07:17
SHRIKEEi couldnt find any docs on it :(07:17
xsachai think they say what they do... just wait07:17
fignewpowersave = always lowest speed07:17
xsachai am not on my laptop :( do you know name of program?07:17
SHRIKEEyea its a  bit self explanatory, but im wondering what else they do07:18
SHRIKEEpowersave.. for example. what does it do to save power07:18
xsachai mean they actually have big detailed descriptions of what they do07:18
SHRIKEEah, where?07:18
xsachawhat is name of program?07:18
SHRIKEEpowernowd i guess07:18
fignewSHRIKEE: it chages the CPU speed07:18
SHRIKEEjust that?07:18
xsachaman powernowd07:19
SHRIKEEbut i can manyually set the cpu speed aswell, with throttling07:19
xsachaMode 1, AGGRESSIVE, changes frequency by a sawtooth function. Immediately jumps to the highest frequency whenever  CPU  usage  goes  over 80%,  and decreases by "step" Hz as usage drops below 20%.  This is the default behavior07:19
fignewI've also enabled laptop mode07:20
SHRIKEEi have no aggresice mode :o07:20
fignewwhere it stops the harddrive07:20
fignewxsacha: those are internal options07:20
xsachadoesnt mean you cant use them07:20
fignewuserspace: gives you CPU speed when you need it07:20
xsachaoverride them :)07:20
xsachaMode 2, PASSIVE, is the inverse of  AGGRESSIVE.   Immediately  jump  to lowest  frequency when usage drops below 20%.  Raise by "step" Hz if it goes above 80%.07:20
fignewhe wants to know the options that are under the power menu...07:21
SHRIKEEi actually made a post on my site about it, hold on07:21
xsachathe programs GUI has a help and tells you what they do07:21
xsachabut i believe that it uses those07:21
SHRIKEEhttp://www.sothq.net/2006/10/23/sendmailand-other-stuff/07:21
domhi folks.  kde apps generally auto-highlight spelling mistakes, but they use US english.  how to I get them to use british english?  i've tried changing stuff in the kontrol centre/system settings to no avail07:21
fignewlol!07:22
xsachayou're using en-us or en-gb?07:22
fignewcolour07:22
fignew^ spelled right?07:22
SHRIKEEcolor07:22
fignewI know that ;)07:22
morghanphoenixHow do I upgrade KDE?07:22
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fignewmorghanphoenix: wait till thursday07:23
fignewand upgrade kubuntu07:23
xsachayeah thursday edgy comes out :D wooho07:23
domxsacha,  en-us/en-gb where?07:23
SHRIKEEbut, if acpi tells me there is no suport for thermal stuff i cant monitor temp and control the fans?07:23
SHRIKEE:(07:23
xsachawhen you selected language07:23
domi just have US english07:23
dommm07:23
fignewstart --> System --> Language Support07:23
xsachawell that's why :)07:24
xtianhay un canal de kubuntu en espaol?07:24
domoh, duh07:24
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morghanphoenixWow, games actually play07:24
xsachayes, any language xtian :)07:24
morghanphoenixI waas stuck with nothing beyond the level of knights before.07:24
fignewnot sure if brit english is in there though07:24
xsachawindows games in wine while running beryl? I KNOW! :D:D:D07:24
xsachayou can just d/l brit english if need be07:24
morghanphoenixAnd crafty was stomping me every time.07:24
SHRIKEEapt-get install somepackageforaspellwithaUKdictionary07:25
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xsachaor just search for it07:25
domhuh, it changed my paper format to A4 too07:25
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domw007.  now if only we had A4 here in north america...07:25
SHRIKEEdom, open adept and type aspell dictionary, it will come up with a load of dictionaries yo ucan use07:25
unix_infidelwe do.07:25
xsachain Default Language there will be English (Australia) -- this comes with kubuntu default, no need to d/l languages07:26
fignewargh dom = canadian ;)07:26
xsachajust click and scroll up07:26
xsachaEnglish (Canada) is also there07:26
domYep.  Ruled by the Queen, screwed by the Bush.07:26
domHmm, now konqueror seems to think both color and colour are correct.07:27
fignewwell07:27
fignewthey both are!07:27
domAre they?  God, what is this, Vietnam?  There's supposed to be rules here!07:28
xsachawell dom it'd be very annoying if it said color wasnt correct, as i am betting most of the time it will be used07:28
xsachaeven though you don't use it07:28
fignewso true07:28
domI don't really care about most of the time.  I'm trying to write-up a bunch of documentation online.  I want it to just be correct.07:29
xsachaand i think it is guessing you'll use it as well since you're near america?07:29
domAh well, c'est la vie.07:29
xsachayou can try UK instead ;)07:29
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domThat is UK.07:29
xsachawouldnt be surprised if it started seeing french words when you choose canada07:29
fignewit sorta makes me giggle07:29
fignewall the firefox users are excited about getting spell checking07:30
xsachawebsites tend to do that a lot07:30
fignewKonq has had it !07:30
xsachareally? i've seen spell check for years.. about 7 years ago i saw it07:30
domfignew,  lol yeah and Konqueror's had it as long as I've used it.07:30
xsachai never need to use it though :)07:30
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xsachagah where's the music?! i keep going into menu but forgetting to choose amarok07:31
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SHRIKEEgrm07:32
pingvenoI'm having a bit of trouble w/ amarok. When I start it up, it automatically starts doing a scan for music. It eventually uses up all of the RAM and swap on the computer, crashing the computer.07:32
flaccidpingveno: try #amarok07:32
pingvenoI can't figure out where the problem is coming from07:32
pingvenok07:32
pingvenoI'm guessing it's an old but07:32
pingvenobug*07:32
flaccidare you using an old version?07:33
fignewhmm07:33
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arunkalehey people07:33
arunkalei'm downloading and installing firefox 2.007:33
pingvenoWell, the newest version available for Dapper07:33
arunkaleanyone else tried it for linux?07:33
fignewrm -rf .kde/share/apps/amarok/07:33
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flaccidpingveno: then why you guess its an old bug?07:34
fignewarunkale: edgy eft has FF207:34
flaccidfignew: why do you want to delete his amarok data?07:34
fignewbecause it's crashing07:34
arunkalefignew: by the time i upgrade to edgy, i'll be old07:34
arunkale:p07:34
flaccidfignew: did you ask if he wanted to keep his collection and ratings etc.?07:35
pingvenoI don't have any, so no problem :)07:35
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fignewflaccid: "When I start it up, it automatically starts doing a scan for music"07:35
fignewAKA07:35
fignewNO LIBRARY YET07:35
flaccidyes07:35
domwon't it scan automagically if it's configured to do so?07:36
flaccidthats correct dom07:36
flaccidyou can never assume and just ask someone to delete their data07:36
fignewit's not data07:36
fignewit's metadata07:36
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dombut if pingveno doesn't have any usage stats yet, then blowing it away is a reasonable course of action07:36
flaccidmetadata is still data, so what?07:36
dommetadata is data about data.  that's still data07:36
domok, GOOD NIGHT!!!07:37
flaccidexactly07:37
flaccidassumptions are just not a good idea...07:37
figneweven if he does have usage stats... it's not doing him much good07:37
flaccidasking questions first is.07:37
arunkaleman, the upgrade from dapper to edgy is some 800 mb07:37
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fignewarunkale: 5 minute download ;)07:37
arunkalefignew: for me it's a 5 day download heh07:38
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arunkaleand i'm cursing my connection speed07:38
SHRIKEEfignew: http://rffr.de/acpi does that make sense?07:39
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fignewthat's all CPU frequency scaling07:40
fignewyou wanted fan speed control :/07:40
SHRIKEEit also mentions the fan07:40
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fignewnot seeing it :/07:42
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SHRIKEEWhy the hell would anyone want to run their cpu at a lower speed than it is made for? Two reasons: 1. save energy, 2. prevent the noisy cpu fan from turning on during periods of higher load (provided speed is not that important)07:43
SHRIKEEin teh intro07:43
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fignewlol, yes, but your fan seems to run at 50% no matter what the speed07:45
SHRIKEEmmhm07:45
fignewadditionally07:45
fignewall this functionality07:45
fignewis enabled by default in (k)ubuntu07:45
fignewactually07:45
SHRIKEEok :)07:45
fignewmaybe not by default07:46
SHRIKEEwell the cpu throttling is there, and works :)07:46
SHRIKEEi enabled it07:46
SHRIKEEby setting the powerschemes07:46
fignewunder control panel go to Laptops & Power07:46
fignewactually07:46
fignewI'm not seeing what I'm looking for07:47
SHRIKEEhttp://www.sothq.net/2006/10/23/sendmailand-other-stuff/ <- theres some screens with my settings07:47
fignewDOH!07:47
fignewI'm on a desktop... that's why :P07:47
SHRIKEEhaha lol07:47
SHRIKEEthat would make a difference yes07:47
SHRIKEEbut you meant hte checkmark for cpu throttling i guess07:47
SHRIKEEits on07:47
fignewmake sure everything is checked under ACPI Config07:48
fignewalso07:48
fignewto set the speed07:48
fignewright click on the battery applet in the system tray07:48
SHRIKEEyea i saw that menu07:48
Windwalker78Can can somebody help a newbie regarding printer install. Everything was fine with Gnome but now have problems with KDE07:49
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momalhow can i give a user permission to access other users files? eg user1 to access any files created by user2... without chmoding all the files to 77707:49
SHRIKEEsudo chmod 77707:49
SHRIKEE:)07:50
SHRIKEEor07:50
SHRIKEEperhaps sudo chgrp07:50
Windwalker78Anybody familiar with CUPS network print and Kubuntu?07:50
SHRIKEEi installed a printer this midday07:50
SHRIKEEvia samba07:51
Windwalker78with samba and win everything is ok. Having problems  with cups07:51
SHRIKEElike...07:51
fignewmomal: you can add the users you want to give access to to your group07:51
Windwalker78linux -> windows ok , but linux->linux problem07:51
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SHRIKEEah07:51
SHRIKEEuh i dunno :( my printer is on a windows computer07:52
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Windwalker78I am asked for a password at the end of the kde printers install via CUPS Remote server and I dont know which password to supply...I tried all passwords on both computers07:52
fignewWindwalker78: what version of kubuntu?07:53
Windwalker78Kubuntu 6.06 i printing on Ubuntu 6.0607:53
Windwalker78is printing...07:53
Windwalker78probably Ubuntu did not asked me for a sharing password???07:54
fignewthey worked on printer sharing alot in 6.10 :)07:54
Windwalker78as I said KDE is asking for a password and I cannot supply it07:54
xsachaKDE 3.5.5 messed up CUPS configuration file07:54
morghanphoenixIs libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2 glibc2.2?07:54
Windwalker78I tested edgy but had problems with freenx logging out07:54
morghanphoenixclosest package I can find07:55
xsachagah why does my flash plugin keep crashing?07:55
xsachaany time something is flash on my page it makes error report because it crashes07:55
SHRIKEEis fancontrol even acpi related?07:55
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xsachai think so07:56
fignewSHRIKEE: I believe the most ACPI would tell you is how fast the fan is going...07:57
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Admiral_Chicagoxsacha: what architecture/distro07:57
xsachaamd64/kubuntu edgy07:57
SHRIKEEhmm07:57
fignewSHRIKEE: Search the Linux kernel changelog for anything about your laptop07:57
Admiral_Chicagoprobably because you're on amd6407:57
xsachai downloaded flash pplugin from adept07:57
momalfignew: Well i tried adding my user (momal)  to the www-data group so I can access my web files without having to use www-data as the user but still wont let me edit/remove the files :S07:57
Admiral_Chicagomy probably keeps crashing because i'm on FK 2.007:57
Admiral_ChicagoFX*07:57
xsachamm im on FX1.5..07:58
fignewmomal: your going after it wrong07:58
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Admiral_Chicagoxsacha: you probably want flashplugin-nonfree07:58
Windwalker78Can somebody tell me how to remove a printer which is giving a message client-error-not-found? Whatever I do the printer stays there and will not allow me to remove it..:(07:58
fignewyou should own the files07:58
Admiral_Chicagoiirc07:58
jason_good morning07:58
xsachaoh ok07:58
SHRIKEEim looking on sites, for acpi stuff related to fans07:58
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fignewand www-user should be able to read them07:58
momalthen the www-data can't write to them07:58
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fignewis it CGI?07:59
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xsachaoh Admiral_Chicago : can you try this link: http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/ffoxdie.html ?07:59
momalsurely i can make 2 users beable to edit/read/remove the same files :S07:59
jason_something messed up my system settings (me likely :P )... I get the following all the time:07:59
morghanphoenixAnybody know the packages for glibc 2.2 and GTK+ 1.2?07:59
fignewthere are very few cases where www-user should be able to change files (it opens you up to security breaches)07:59
jason_Sorry - KDE Panel  >>  Could not find mime type application/octet-stream  <OK>08:00
jason_advice?08:00
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Admiral_Chicagosure, what am i looking for?08:00
momalits all local on my pc and no one has access so no security problems08:00
xsachait's meant to crash firefox 2.. just wondering if it works?08:00
arunkaleumm i downloaded the firefox 2 tar.gz08:00
arunkalehow do i install08:00
Admiral_Chicagoah flash to work...08:00
fignewso files should be set as 66008:01
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: just install from the command line08:01
momalIf i set all the files to my user/group then my apache server can't write to the files08:01
fignewdirectories should be set as 77508:01
fignewactually08:01
Admiral_Chicagoopen up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"08:01
xsachasudo apt-get install firefox08:01
fignewfiles shold be 66408:01
fignewif you want them world readable08:01
SageUhm.08:01
arunkaleAdmiral_Chicago: Will that install Firefox 2.0?08:01
xsachahave to update first though if you havent updated in a while..08:01
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SageAnyone willing to help me out with something08:01
xsachayes arunkale, FF2 was added to rep08:01
xsachajust update first08:01
arunkaleupdate?08:02
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: yes08:02
fignewmomal also you should do chown momal:www-group08:02
Admiral_ChicagoSage: ask, can't garuntee an answer08:02
fignewdon't quote me on the www-group deal though, I dont know the group name08:02
Admiral_Chicagoxsacha: it works.08:02
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arunkaleshould i close my firefox windows that are currently open before i install firefox08:03
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xsachaworks=crash or not crash?08:04
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Admiral_Chicagoxsacha: detects FX08:04
macoxphey i wanna format my second drive how do i do this and what is the linux equlivelent of ntfs?08:05
Admiral_Chicagono crash that i know oy08:05
xsachaoh ok08:05
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arunkaleAdmiral_Chicago: should i close whatever firefox windows i have open, before i install firefox 2?08:05
SageI used a program called Partition Magic to partition my NTFS partition so I could install Kubuntu and dual boot windows with it. After I used the program and it rebooted my computer, every time that windows booted it gave me a blue screen. So now I am trying to get all the files I had on the windows partition over to this.08:05
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: no08:05
Admiral_Chicagoit's in /lock08:05
arunkaleAdmiral_Chicago: thanks :)08:05
Admiral_Chicagobut once you update restart FX to get on 2.008:06
arunkalewill tell you how it goes08:06
xsachayeah Sage, those are very risky.. im very sure it warned you about that too :P08:06
SageIt probably did08:06
SageI just didn't read it08:06
Admiral_Chicago!mount > Sage08:06
macoxpcan anyone help my format my stupid second drive?08:06
Admiral_Chicagomacoxp: use QTparted08:06
xsachaoh you were resizing while it was mounted?08:06
SageI've tried using mount08:06
macoxpAdmiral_Chicago: how?08:06
xsachai prefer fdisk, but that's just me :)08:06
SageOnly showed like the contents of the windows folder08:06
Admiral_ChicagoSage: hmm. did you try fsck08:07
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arunkaleAdmiral_Chicago: it says firefox is already the latest version, but it's not08:07
macoxpAdmiral_Chicago: just type that in command?08:07
xsachaarunkale: update repositories08:07
Admiral_Chicagono you need to install it then run it08:07
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Sagesudo mount /dev/hda1 ~08:07
Sage[22:43]  <Sage> Ok did that08:07
SageOnly tried doing that08:07
arunkalexsacha: how do i do that? (sorry for the retarded questions)08:07
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: from the terminal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:07
macoxpAdmiral_Chicago: can i get it from atept?08:07
arunkaleok08:07
arunkalethat's all on the same line, right?08:08
xsachayes macoxp08:08
Admiral_Chicagomacoxp: yes08:08
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xsachayeah arunkale08:08
Admiral_Chicagono one then the other08:08
momalHow can i give my user access to files chowned to www-data.www-data ??... the files created from apache are going to be created by that user/group and I want to have access to them via my user08:08
Admiral_Chicagocan you do that?08:08
Admiral_Chicagoi didn't know that08:08
xsachayou can replace && with a ; too08:08
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arunkalexsacha: it still says firefox is the latest version08:09
xsachayou ran the update already?08:09
Admiral_Chicagooh right linux is intelligent like that08:09
arunkaleyeah08:09
arunkalei've already updated it, i think08:09
arunkalethis morning08:09
arunkaleeverytime that little icon shows up, i update08:09
xsachawell it's in my repository :S amd64 though could be different08:09
arunkaleso how do i install from the tar.gz08:10
Admiral_Chicagoarunkale: extract it to your desktop08:10
arunkaleand then?08:10
_erwiney anybody here know's how to connect me to yahoo messenger?08:10
xsachawell it's not recommended :P if you dont know how to it's best not to but you can just tar -xvf filename and then ./configure and then make and then make install08:10
macoxpxsacha: what type of partition is best? gives me security and lagre file sizes?08:10
xsachamacoxp: ext3 is recommended08:11
xsachai use reiserfs but people complain that they lose data with it sometimes :S never had that though08:11
morghanphoenixack08:11
Admiral_Chicagotype in a terminal cd Desktop08:12
Admiral_Chicagoactually wait08:12
xsachai hope firefox2 has no extra dependancies :P08:12
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xsachaconfigure will say anyway08:12
Admiral_Chicagois there an install file?08:13
momal_erwin: kopete in kde connects to the yim service i believe08:13
momal!kopete08:13
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB08:13
arunkalethere's a run-mozilla.sh08:13
SageWill I have to format my drive after this occuance?08:13
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arunkalethere's a firefox-bin08:13
Admiral_Chicagohmm ihold on08:14
xsachaSage: you resized and then it starting BSODing (before you installed kubuntu)?08:14
SageI haven't installed kubuntu yet08:15
xsachaohh ok08:15
SageI'm working from off the CD08:15
Admiral_Chicagohttp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0rc3/source/08:15
xsachait might start working when you install a different boot loader08:15
Admiral_Chicagouse that one08:15
Admiral_Chicagodownload the source and let's work ogg that08:15
LynoureSage: no, probably just repair windows. Or at least it is worth the try.08:15
SageHm.08:15
arunkaleAdmiral_Chicago: that's 35 MB08:16
xsachait could just be the bootloader has differing information now, so try installing kubuntu and it'll install grub for you.. check if it works then08:16
arunkalethat's going to take me an hour08:16
arunkale:p08:16
xsachaarunkale: that's cause it's source ;)08:16
LynoureSage: if you pop in the install CD for that it will have that option, if it does not work, take backups with a bootable disk and reinstall after that.08:16
arunkaleshould i get the bz2.asc file08:17
SageI don't know if the drive is still intact08:17
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xsachamy bet is it is08:17
LynoureSage: No way to know other than trying.08:17
SageGuess so.08:17
xsachaeven if some of the data is lost, you can still recover most of it08:17
LynoureIdeally one should  always take backups before messing with the partition table08:18
SageCuriosity killed the cat.08:18
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SageI just don't want to lose my music.08:18
LynoureSage: Remember that you are probably not a cat :)08:18
xsachayeah try and recover it08:18
SageThe computer is.08:18
Lynouremine is an alien birdlike thing08:19
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stoic ALL HAIL GOOGLE GOD OF THE BETA WIRED08:19
stoicwoops...08:20
xsacha?08:20
stoicsorry wrong window, hi08:20
Lynoureheh08:20
xsacha!firefox08:20
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:20
xsachait still says 1.5 :O08:20
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krautmoin08:21
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Search4Lancerstupid question: how do I know what version of Kubuntu I have installed?08:22
stoicit will tell you when you boot up08:23
Search4Lancer...other than that?08:23
flaccidthere is a command, but can't remember what it is08:23
stoicyeah nor can i08:23
flaccidthere is a file as well08:23
macoxpxsacha: it's useing 5 gig's of space and i just formated why does it say this?08:23
xsachaare you on a live cd?08:24
xsachacant format this hard drive..08:24
morghanphoenixI really hate the case sensitivity for paths08:24
xsachaunless you are on a live cd08:24
flaccidcase sensitivity rox08:24
macoxpxsacha: no i'm installed on maxtor trying to format WD08:24
xsachaoh ok08:24
xsachayou removed all partitions?08:25
xsachathen there'll be some button to write to partition table08:25
macoxpxsacha: yeah then i added ext3 and it says 5 gigs usec08:26
xsachathe ext3 partition you made is 5 gigs?08:26
morghanphoenixI keep creating new paths because I got the case wrong.08:26
macoxpxsacha: it's a 125 gig hd and it says 5 gigs used right off the bat of the format08:26
flaccidmorghanphoenix: you can blame windows for that08:26
macoxpxsacha: see the problem?08:27
xsachayou formatted it with no partition on it and it says used space is more than 0? :S08:27
morghanphoenixI blame windows for enough allready08:27
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macoxpxsacha: no i deleted everythign then made a primary>ext308:27
xsachathe ext3 is 5 gigs?08:27
flaccidmacoxp: what does du -cah / return?08:27
flaccidreplace / with the root of the partition mount point08:28
macoxpxsacha: the ext3 is 125g with 5 used filled with nothing08:28
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stoicare we that boring?08:28
xsachatry: df -h        and check used %age08:28
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macoxphold on just a sec i'm doing it again to see if it happens again08:29
xsachaon hdb or whatever it is called08:29
macoxpok it's still useing 5 gigs what you want me to try?08:29
xsachatry: df -h and check used %08:29
xsachaon hdb1 or whatever it is called08:30
macoxpFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on08:30
macoxp/dev/hda1              37G   19G   16G  55% /08:30
macoxpvarrun                760M  104K  760M   1% /var/run08:30
macoxpvarlock               760M  4.0K  760M   1% /var/lock08:30
macoxpudev                  760M  136K  760M   1% /dev08:30
macoxpdevshm                760M     0  760M   0% /dev/shm08:30
macoxplrm                   760M   19M  742M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile08:30
macoxp/dev/sda1             280G  186G   94G  67% /media/sda108:30
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xsachawhich one is it?08:31
xsachasda1? :S08:31
macoxpxsacha: how do i only do it on hdb1?08:31
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xsachadf -h /dev/hdb108:31
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macoxpFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on08:31
macoxpudev                  760M  136K  760M   1% /dev08:31
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xsachabut i dont know if yours is called hdb1.. you have a scsi in there08:31
xsachahuh? it's /dev ?08:32
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macoxpxsacha: hold on i'll get you a screen shot08:32
xsachado you have it raided?08:33
macoxpxsacha: does linux have a paint program?08:33
xsachamacoxp: i think i know why, duhh :P08:33
macoxpxsacha: no it's a single drive08:33
xsachait's not mounted..08:33
xsachado: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt08:34
momalHow can i give my user access to files chowned to www-data.www-data ??... the files created from apache are going to be created by that user/group and I want to have access to them via my user08:34
Windwalker78bye!08:35
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xsachachown -R user:group /dir   .. ?08:35
xsacharun it as sudo and it doesnt matter who owns it :)08:35
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NightBirderm... while yes, sudo would work... why not add the users to the www-data group?08:37
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NightBirdwould that work?08:37
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xsachayeah add user to group or just chown for that user, seems too simple maybe we misunderstood question08:38
macoxpxsacha: http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ln0.jpg08:38
macoxpxsacha: thats whats happing08:38
NightBirdhehe witchblade....08:39
xsachamacoxp: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt08:39
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macoxpxsacha: now what?08:40
xsachadone? then: df -h /mnt08:40
macoxpFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on08:41
macoxp/dev/hdb1             111G  129M  105G   1% /mnt08:41
xsachaow08:41
macoxpnumbers not adding up08:41
xsacha129MB used... 105 available..08:41
xsacha^o)08:41
SHRIKEEhax08:41
macoxpit's crazy haxorz08:42
NightBird129M+105G == 111G?08:42
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NightBird....good enough for me!08:42
xsachaof course NightBird :)08:42
macoxphey there is a thing on the drive called lost+found wtf?08:42
xsachai just use fdisk and i always seem to get what i see08:43
xsachawhat's in lost+found?08:43
SHRIKEEwhat kinda number is 111G anyway08:43
SHRIKEE...08:43
macoxpcant open need root powers08:43
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SHRIKEEwhat disk is that size08:43
xsachait's probably 120 (human readable)08:43
momalyea my problem is im sick of having to use sudo to edit the files.... and since my apache server creates files under www-data.www-data and I want to leave it as that.. I want to beable to edit the files via my momal.momal user/group without having to keep changing the permissions of files08:43
macoxpit's 120 but that means 111 in the real world08:43
xsachaoh wait -h does that08:43
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momalI have tried adding momal to www-data group but still doesn't work :(08:44
xsachaoh ok momal: add yourself to that group08:44
macoxpxsacha: so what do i do?08:44
flaccidwhats the error?08:44
xsachamacoxp: no idea08:44
momalxsacha: tried that08:44
xsachadidnt work? ^o)08:44
xsachadont see how it couldnt work08:45
momalnope :(08:45
xsachayou type group wrong or something? :P08:45
SHRIKEEa random thought:08:45
momalI have me (momal) added to the www-data group but still wont let me edit the files :(08:45
momalnar did it via the kde users manager dialog08:45
SHRIKEEis there a way to lock the system once a usb stick is removed?08:45
xsachawww-data.www-data? or www-data?08:45
SHRIKEEand use the usb stick like a keycard for access to that system08:45
macoxpxsacha: what the dif btween ext3 and ext2?08:45
xsachaext3 has journaling08:46
SHRIKEEmacoxp:  a journal08:46
macoxpi'm gonna try ext208:46
SHRIKEEyou should stick with ext3 :)08:46
SHRIKEEits a enhanced ext208:46
xsachabtw macoxp: umount /dev/hdb1 /mnt08:46
macoxpSHRIKEE: why i dont care abotu some jornal08:46
momalusername is www-data and group name is www-data and I want to be able to edit any file created under that user/group via my user (momal) and group (momal) (momal.momal)08:46
xsachayou can be momal.www-data too ...08:47
thill2708Why is it so hard to manage a theme in kubuntu? Are there themes that take care of the windows, the themes, the icons, etc, completely?08:47
macoxpthat jornal took up 4 gigs it now says used space 1 gig lol08:47
flaccidmomal: add yourself to the www-data group and ensure correct group perms on the files08:47
xsachathat should work08:47
macoxpyeah i can live with 1 gig gone08:47
xsachaweird, i get my full space08:48
macoxpxsacha: how do i give konkor root powers so i can open this lost and found08:48
xsachaof course when i add a file it gets journalised, but from a wipe it's all empty08:48
SHRIKEE...08:48
xsachakdesu konqueror /mnt/lost+found08:49
flaccidmacoxp: did you run the du command?08:49
macoxpnothing in it how do i del it?08:49
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xsachait's part of filesystem i think?08:50
macoxpwait can partition magic make linux partitions? i own that program lol08:50
xsachaerrr i prefer linux programs to partition magic any day LOL08:50
xsachatry this, i use it all the time and never had any problems: fdisk08:51
macoxpwell i'm gonna try it it boots off the cd no windows :-P08:51
macoxpfdisk only does fat hto08:51
xsachause wine to run it if you want to08:51
xsachano :P08:51
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xsachafdisk will do any partition type, you just have to make it08:51
macoxpxsacha: no need it boots off the cd08:51
xsachamkreiserfs for eg.08:51
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xsachaafter you create a partition08:52
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flaccidmacoxp: did you run the du command?08:53
xsachahe left08:53
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flaccidah well08:53
xsachasoon as next kernel comes out, i'm going to try out ext408:54
seishinbyouHmm, what is the maximum number of partitions allowed for a single HDD?08:56
xsacha4 apparently08:56
xsachathat's primary08:56
seishinbyouextended?08:56
xsachano idea08:56
seishinbyouMore of a curiousity than anything; I have a really large disk here I can't imagine filling with standard apps08:57
seishinbyouSo just for experimentation...08:57
xsachayeah, i run into that too08:57
xsachayou're meant to use logical partitions08:57
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seishinbyouMeh, whatever works, I guess.  It just seems like so much space is just going to waste either way08:58
seishinbyouI should take up bittorrenting or something08:58
seishinbyouhosting Linux ISOs08:58
xsachai think unlimited logical or some really high number08:58
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draikHello everyone09:00
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obf213wht is mythtv09:01
obf213i downloaded it but i have no clue how to get it to work09:01
seishinbyouThere are no 1TB 3.5' drives out right now, is that correct?  750GB is the max?09:01
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draikJUCATO!!!09:02
Jucatoyoh draik :)09:02
draikobf213, go to http://www.systm.org and get the video from them about mythtv09:03
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obf213draik09:03
obf213wanna run the url again it says it doesnt exists09:03
draikJucato, I gots me a jobby job09:03
Jucatodraik: nice :)09:03
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draikobf213, one sec, let me find it09:03
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JucatoAAAAH! The smell of a revived Linux box!! :D09:04
draikobf213, here you go http://www.revision3.com/systm   scroll down for Episode 2 MythTV09:04
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JucatoI'm so happy I could cry :)09:05
draikYou could, but you're not going to :p09:05
Jucato2 weeks, and US$ 20 after... I'm finally home :)09:05
Search4Lanceralright, I'm trying to install Beryl, and it says "In KDE (Kubuntu), you can add a simple script to the "~/.kde/Autostart/" directory that activates those commands."  which tells me absolutely NOTHING.... any help?09:05
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obf213great is flahs lol. no sound09:06
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draikVery nice Jucato09:06
t9377_hello09:06
xsachaSearch4Lancer: #beryl09:06
t9377_weisch du wie me duet so fils versnde09:06
Jucatoer did I say 2 weeks? I meant "more than 2 weeks" :)09:06
draikobf213, it's not flash, it's torrent09:06
seishinbyoumake a symbolic link to beryl-manager in the ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory09:06
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t9377_got wr sind dir alli09:07
draikJucato, Has it really been that long? Time sure does fly09:07
Search4Lancerxsacha: it's a Kubuntu question, not a beryl question....09:07
t9377_koch sag mol wr bisch du09:07
draikt9377, what language?09:07
xsachait's beryl question.. come into #beryl, im there09:07
obf213o well if ur right click the video is says about micromedia flash09:08
draikIt's quicktime09:08
seishinbyouJust checking, lzh/lha is still supported under Linux, right?09:08
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obf213hrmm mines flahs i tried to play quicktime it said nothing could support it09:09
Jucatowhat's lzh?09:09
draikobf213, on the right there is a link for the quicktime video09:09
seishinbyoucompression scheme from the 80s.  Popular in Japan...nowhere else09:09
Jucatoah09:09
seishinbyouAlso used in the Amiga09:09
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obf213yeah i quess i need to download something to make quiktime play09:10
draikobf213, click on View All Video Downloads09:10
draikthey have the torrents there09:10
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draikThey have the torrents for WMV, Xvid09:10
obf213i c09:11
obf213when i clcik on them xml trees just open though09:11
seishinbyouOk.  It looks like file-roller and/or ark will handle lha/lzh... whew09:11
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=== seishinbyou wishes JP companies would just use something else, like the rest of the world, does
obf213ah nvm09:12
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draikobf213, http://www.mythtv.org09:14
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Windwalker78Hi. Can somebody help me delete a printer. If i try to remove it i getclient-error-not-found.09:14
Genix|linux!nspluginwrapper09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
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Genix|linuxwhat irc client you guys on?09:16
obf213yeah thanks, i foudn the video i was just slow09:16
Genix|linuxkonversation?09:16
flaccidkonversation09:16
JucatoKonvi09:16
draikkonvo09:16
Jucatobeloved Konvi... :)09:16
Genix|linuxok09:17
Genix|linuxand you guys using firefox or konq09:17
draikfirefox09:17
Genix|linuxand are you  using konq for your file browser09:17
JucatoKonqi09:17
draikyup09:17
JucatoI use Konqi as file manager, and browser 95% of the time09:17
Genix|linuxoh ok09:18
draikJucato, you're using konqi? I thought you gave up after it went ape-shiite on you09:18
draikkonqi as a browser I mean09:18
Genix|linuxjust trying to get the best apps for kde09:18
Genix|linuxi just started using it09:18
flaccidi thought konqi was the mascot09:18
Jucatodraik: it didn't really went ape-shift on me. it just didn't work with most Google services09:18
Jucatoflaccid: Konqi is both the name of the KDE mascot, and the shortened name for Konqueror09:19
Jucato:P09:19
draikGenix|linux, go here  http://www.kde-apps.org09:19
flaccidfor real09:19
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draikK in KDE went from Kool to Konqi to just K09:19
draikor maybe Konqi to Kool to K09:19
draikforgot the order, but the wiki has it09:20
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Jucatodraik: it was never Konqi09:20
draikNo more drinking and wiki'ing for me then09:21
draiklol09:21
Jucatohehe09:21
Jucatowell that's just afaik09:21
Jucatoit really went from Kool to just "K"09:21
draikThen there you have it folks!!!09:22
Jucatolol09:22
draikbrb, it's time for some grub09:22
JucatoGRUB or grub?09:22
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draikgrub09:23
Jucatoag09:24
Jucatoah09:24
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ZeeOhow do i get wma to play09:25
ZeeOor can i09:25
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draikZeeO get w32codecs09:25
draik!source-o-matic09:25
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:25
Jucatoerr..09:25
Jucato!wma09:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:25
JucatoZeeO: read that link for RestrictedFormats. there are instructions there for Windows Media09:25
draikI had a few issues until I got the w32codecs09:25
Jucatodownload the w32codecs (.deb) and install it09:26
ZeeOthx09:26
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ZeeOkubuntu needs to come with that kind of stuff out of the box09:27
JucatoZeeO: it can't09:27
ZeeOo09:27
ZeeO:(09:27
Jucatoit's against its philosophy, and at the same time against the law in some countries09:27
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macoxphey guys what are jfs and xfs file systems?09:28
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toad_hi all09:29
momalamarok: Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable | trying to install latest amarok with rep from : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php09:29
Jucatomacoxp: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained09:29
Jucatoer.. it doesn't have jfs or xfs lol09:30
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Jucatosorry09:30
Jucatobut it does have links to other sources...09:30
Jucatomomal: you have enabled dapper-backports already, I presume?09:30
draikwhat is a *.cbr file?09:30
Jucatodraik: comic book archive09:31
momalarr whoops completly went over my head :p09:31
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draikmomal, as soon as you enable backports it will work... I went through the same thing09:31
draikThank you Jucato09:31
Jucatodraik: which can be opened by apps like komix or qtcomicbook (not sure of the names). or just extracted/decompressed by Ark :P09:32
Pitonehelp09:32
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Jucatowoot for 370 feeds to read! :)09:32
Jucato!ask09:33
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:33
draikJucato, thanks09:33
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macoxpJucato: is the reiserFS  jfs and xfs file systems?09:34
Jucatomacoxp: I really don't know. did you check the Wikipedia link at the bottom of the page I gave?09:34
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xsachayes maco09:35
draikJucato, it's comix. Oddly enough, no K09:35
toad_who here has their mouse forward and back buttons working?09:35
xsachamacoxp: you can use fdisk to make any type of partition...09:35
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xsachayou jjust make it after you make partition09:35
Jucatodraik: err yeah. it isn't a KDE/Qt app I think09:36
ukubuntu A small questio for you early burds! I am finding in both firefox and konqueror on ubuntu  with kubuntu on top, that sending mail from a web page like http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_3990000/newsid_3993900/3993909.stm gives the following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28073/09:36
ukubuntuI think it may be my local permissions, but I think it is not just my problem09:37
macoxpxsacha: yeah but no matter what i still lose 5 gigs so i'm gonna use jfs i think it's just as good says teh charts09:37
xsachano macoxp09:37
xsachai lose nothing when i do it09:37
Jucatonow to update to KDE 3.5.5 :)09:37
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macoxpxsacha: you really into the ms dos fdisk hehe09:38
xsachai like reiser best, but that's just me09:38
xsachakonsole.. and you'll be using konsole a lot09:38
macoxpxsacha: you mean a linux version of fdisk?09:38
xsachathe front-end apps tend to give you less control09:38
draikJucato, I like 3.5.509:39
xsachaof course, just type in fdisk09:39
Jucatodraik: I'm supposed to like it. they said there are a lot of KHTML fixes/improvements09:39
draikI wouldn't personally know, but it seems to run smoother on my machine09:39
macoxpxsacha: how do i mount a drive again?09:39
xsachamount /dev/hdb1 /mnt09:39
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Jucatodraik: tomorrow I just might reformat anyway lol09:40
draikreformat? Why?09:40
xsachai think he means thursday for edgy final?09:40
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ukubuntuhmm, seems my problem foxes all :(09:41
Jucatodraik: I'm due for a reformat anyway... I need to redo my partitions :)09:41
draikoic09:41
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xzhanghi guys09:43
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macoxpxsacha: why does it say i got a raid going on when i dont?09:43
xzhangI wanted to install kubuntu yesterday09:43
macoxpUsage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device09:43
macoxpE.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)09:43
macoxp  or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)09:43
macoxp  or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)09:43
macoxp  or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)09:43
macoxp  ...09:43
xsachayou do.. that's sda1 right?09:43
xsachafdisk /dev/hdb09:43
Jucato!pastebin09:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:43
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draikJucato, I was just about to paste a whole HTML website09:44
Jucatodraik: yeah, right! :P09:44
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KoluCCiHi! Does anybody knows, what is the default path of KDE installation in Kubuntu?09:44
draikI'd be banned for what... about 3 months?09:44
Jucato??09:44
macoxpxsacha: whats sdal?09:44
draikflooding09:44
JucatoKoluCCi: what do you mean?09:44
xsachascsi drive09:44
xzhangBut when creating partition and mounting partition manually the installation crashed09:44
xsachait looks like it is a raid drive.. it has 300GB -- do you know what drive that is?09:45
Jucatodraik: nah.  you'd just get your @ss kicked :)09:45
xzhangboth 6.10 and 6.0609:45
draikhmmm... doesn't seem all too bad of an idea09:45
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Jucatodraik: we could also ban you if you want :)09:45
KoluCCiJucato: the default KDE path, which is using by application when building in $KDEDIR variable09:45
draikWhen's the release for Edgy Eft (final)?09:45
Jucatoah09:45
xsachathursday draik.. this thursday09:45
draikJucato, No, that's quite alright, thank you09:45
jonathanmathew01Can someone tell me how to update an external hard drive (usb) that i use on a stand alone machine09:45
Jucatohm... /etc/kde3 afaik09:45
draikhmm... bit late, no?09:46
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KoluCCiJucato: I'll try ;)09:46
xsachait is /etc/kde3 in kubuntu09:46
KoluCCichecking for the general KDE directory... failed...continuing with normal checks09:46
KoluCCichecking for KDE services directory... found in /usr/share/services09:46
KoluCCichecking for the KDE libraries... found in /usr/lib09:46
KoluCCichecking for KDE header files... "FAILED"09:46
xsachainstalled from source, kde seemed to use: /etc/kde09:47
xzhangIn Kubuntu installation, when creating partition and mounting partition manually the installation crashed. anyone met it?09:47
macoxpxsacha: how do i unmount this thing so i can fdisk it?09:47
xsachaumount /dev/hdb1 /mnt09:47
macoxpumount: /mn: not found09:47
xsachatypo lol09:47
KoluCCixsacha: Jucato: Don't know what to do?09:47
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JucatoKoluCCi: err did you download kde-devel (to get the KDE headers)?09:48
macoxpxsacha: i copyed and pasted what you wrote09:48
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xsachait's looking for kde headers kolucci, know where they are?09:48
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xsachayou missed the 't' when you pasted macoxp09:48
KoluCCiI was trying to set like KDE path /usr/include/kde where my kde-devel exist - nothing changed09:48
xsachanotice i typed /mnt and error says /mn09:48
KoluCCiJucato: I'll try to update kde-devel right now09:49
KoluCCiwhat should I do to set KDE general directory?09:50
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KoluCCiset KDEDIR to /etc/kde3?09:50
KoluCCior to /usr/include/kde?09:50
xsachakol: it's finding KDEDIR properly.. it's not finding kde headers09:50
Hydraseriously man, windows vista kicks ass09:50
xsacharight?09:50
KoluCCichecking for the general KDE directory... failed...continuing with normal checks09:50
KoluCCichecking for KDE header files... "FAILED"09:50
xsachaoh09:50
Jucatohm..09:50
KoluCCixsacha: it can't found KDE directory too09:51
JucatoI'm not sure anymore... @_@09:51
macoxpxsacha: i'm confused what do i do now that i'm in fdisk lol09:51
xsachado: p   macoxp09:51
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xsachado: m            to see list of commands like it says btw09:51
macoxpDisk /dev/hdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes09:51
macoxp255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders09:51
macoxpUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes09:51
macoxp   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:51
KoluCCimacoxp: try out cfdisk09:52
xsachaempty?09:52
KoluCCiThis utility is more friendly to user09:52
macoxpDisk /dev/hdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes09:52
macoxp255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders09:52
macoxpUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes09:52
macoxp   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:52
draik!pastebin09:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:52
macoxpoops09:52
xsachayou said that already :S09:52
macoxpDOS Compatibility flag is not set09:52
xsachahard drive empty right?09:52
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macoxpxsacha: yah nothing on it09:52
Jucatomacoxp: please use pastebin next time. thanks :)09:53
xsachanow do: n             p                1      (all seperate)09:53
KoluCCixsacha: checking for the general KDE directory... failed...continuing with normal checks09:53
macoxpJucato: how do i do that?09:53
KoluCCiAfter updating kde-devel09:53
Jucato!pastebin | macoxp09:53
ubotumacoxp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:53
xsachago to that pastebin link and paste your stuff in there09:53
KoluCCiKDEDIR is set to /etc/kde309:53
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xsachaalternatively, paste it to me in private message09:54
macoxpxsacha: n: command not found09:54
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flaccidso macoxp did you run du?09:55
maryen_hmm09:55
macoxpflaccid: du?09:55
maryen_im thinking about switching to gentoo09:55
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bbtsamba and edgy.. pointless battle?!?!09:55
xsachan from clean is not found? ^o) yeah should be in: sudo fdisk /dev/hdb109:55
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macoxpxsacha: i did sudo09:56
maryen_hoping to better introduce myself to linux thru it, and boost my computer speed as well09:56
xsachawhat are you in right now? what was last letter you used that worked?09:56
macoxpxsacha: wanna just vpn and show me lol09:57
Eeyore_Jrmaryen_: linux from scratch09:58
xsachano :P09:58
xsachaprivate message -->09:58
maryen_Eeyore_Jr: thats kinda scary09:58
macoxpxsacha: it sayd i'm blocked09:58
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xsacharegister an account: /msg nickserv register password09:59
maryen_Eeyore_Jr: ill go to gentoo first09:59
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macoxpxsacha: do i put my nick instead of nickserv?09:59
xsachano10:00
xsachajust replace password, everything else is fine10:00
Eeyore_Jrwww.linuxfromscratch.org10:00
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xsachahttp://www.crux.nu10:00
maryen_hmm10:01
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cpk2its almost as quiet as kubuntu-offtopic10:16
Jucatosssshhh10:17
Jucato:P10:17
cpk2*almost*10:17
cpk2I might be able to make kubuntu-offtopic noisier =P10:17
LynoureI can ask you something, if you wish, but it's more a #ubuntu+1 thing10:17
LynoureHi, anyone with HP NC8230 who could confirm (or deny) this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/64948 ?10:18
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cpk2hrmm nope i guess #kubuntu-offtopic is dead10:21
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mzuverinkCan anyone recommend a good cd ripped/encoder, maybe one that is fairly speedy, kaudiocreator is terribly slow.10:21
cpk2doesnt k3b do it?10:21
mzuverinkcpk2, have not tried that10:21
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cpk2mzuverink: ok maybe it doesnt =P10:22
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mzuverinkand I dont ever remember seeing anything about it doing that either10:22
Jucatomzuverink: you can also try Konqueror. type in "audiocd:/" in the address/URL10:22
Jucatok3b can also rip10:22
Jucatopretty soon, kaudiocreator is going bye bye from Kubuntu10:22
mzuverinkJucato, ill try that10:23
cpk2Jucato: where is the option to rip?10:23
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Jucatocpk2: where? in K3b? not sure.10:23
cpk2you can copy a cd but dont think you can rip...10:24
Jucatocpk2: k3b?10:24
mzuverinkis there a location to change the bitrate for konq rips?10:24
mzuverinkspecifically to vbr?10:24
cpk2Jucato: yes k3b10:24
Jucatomzuverink: System Settings -> Sound and Multimedia -> Audio CD's10:24
Jucato!cdripping10:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdripping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
Jucatoerr...10:24
Jucatomzuverink: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping10:25
cpk2jack - Rip and encode CDs with one command10:25
mzuverinkJucato, their now, thanks10:26
flaccid_firefox 2 repos exist yet for dapper?10:26
Jucatoflaccid_: nope10:26
cpk2and grabcd-rip - rip and encode audio CDs - ripper10:26
flaccid_Jucato: we need unofficial repos?10:26
flaccid_coz dapper aint getting it?10:26
Jucatoflaccid_: Dapper might get it. It's not yet here probably because it's not *officially* released yet (direct link to FTP doesn't count)10:27
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Jucatocpk2: http://k3b.plainblack.com/about Basic idea #310:29
flaccid_k10:29
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Jucatocpk2: also read the features a bit further down10:29
cpk2Jucato: guess i should actually try with a cd in the drive then =P10:30
Search4Lancerso anyone get transparency to work yet? because I know I sure haven't...10:30
Jucatocpk2: yeah I guess so :)10:30
JucatoSearch4Lancer: what kind of transparency?10:30
Search4Lancerthe window kind10:30
Jucatousing Composite Manager? or with XGL stuff?10:31
Search4Lancermy menus are transparent, and that's about it10:31
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Search4Lanceractually... I get errors every time I boot from the Composite Manager10:31
JucatoSearch4Lancer: transparency using the composite manager is buggy (but still useable). XGL requires a bit more work10:31
JucatoSearch4Lancer: you probably didn't enable the Composite extension in your xorg.conf10:32
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Search4Lancerwell, where's it at in xorg.conf (or is it something I have to add)?10:32
Jucatosomething you have to add...10:33
Search4Lancerdo tell...10:33
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JucatoSearch4Lancer: you really want to? like I said, a bit buggy...10:34
Search4Lancerwell, is it gonna kill my system like beryl tried to, or what?10:34
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Jucatohm... hit and miss, I guess...10:34
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Jucatohttp://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Setting_up_X_Composite_Extension The first part of the instructions there10:34
Jucatoshows what you need to add10:35
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teledynwhich flash player works best?10:37
teledyni see flashplayer-mozilla, flashplugin-nonfree, swf-player,10:37
cpk2damn, i shift deleted something i wanted to still keep =X10:39
thill2708!undelete10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about undelete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
Jucato:(10:40
cpk2i used shift-delete10:41
cpk2i guess ext3 should have a way to undo it10:41
Jucatothere is no return from Shift+Del hell :P10:41
cpk2oh well10:41
teledynfrequent backups10:41
cpk2the file wasnt where it was supposed to be lol10:41
cpk2organizational error =P10:42
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thill2708"10:42
thill2708In order to ensure that ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash, it actually zeros out the block pointers in the inode, whereas10:42
thill2708 ext2 just marks these blocks as unused in the block bitmaps and marks the inode as "deleted" and leaves the block pointers alone.10:42
thill2708 Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been deleted and hope for the best.10:42
thill2708"10:42
thill2708gruh. didn't thuink that would span four lines10:42
thill2708sorry10:42
teledyngrep through what?10:42
thill2708no idea10:42
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thill2708http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html10:42
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Search4Lancerokay, now, how do I restart X to see if what I went and one works (without rebooting)?10:43
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thill2708Search: ctrl-alt-backspace10:43
teledyni think i remember their being some form of undelete for ext3.  i'd google it.10:43
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thill2708teledyn: I just did10:43
thill2708It actually zeroes out the blocks...10:43
teledynthere's these: e2undel and recover10:43
cpk2thanks for caring but its not *that* serious =)10:43
thill2708meh, things to do while I wait for fc6 to come out10:44
Jucatowhich would be out in a few hours...10:44
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thill2708They didn't do a midnight release :(10:45
thill2708teledyn: Pretty sure those are ext2 only10:45
teledynwow i just remember when 5 was still rc10:45
Jucato14:00 GMT... which is about 5 hours from now10:45
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fregorhello10:45
teledynthill2708: ext3 is ext210:45
cpk2with journaling*10:45
Jucatoext3 is ext2 + journaling10:45
teledyndelete the .journal and its ext210:45
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fregori'm french help me10:46
teledynand you can always recreate the journal once again...10:46
seishinbyoufregor> I can't help you with that10:46
Jucato!fr10:46
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:46
Jucatoseishinbyou: heheh :P10:46
JucatoSearch4Lancer: how is it?10:47
thill2708from e2undel's website faq:10:47
fregorsavoir utiliser konversation10:47
thill2708http://e2undel.sourceforge.net/usage.html10:47
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thill2708"Why this does not work with ext3"10:47
teledynin other words, i don't think deleting the journal entry would change the bits on the disk, so basically the ext2 undelete should work10:47
teledynor10:47
thill2708In general, ext2 and ext3 are compatible file systems: You can mount an ext3 fs as ext2 and even use the ext2 low level utilities like debugfs.10:47
thill2708However, ext3 behaves in a different manner in one crucial point: If a file is deleted, its inode data are removed, too. Especially, the list of data blocks is lost; so it is not possible to recover any deleted file.10:47
Jucato!fr | fregor10:48
ubotufregor: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:48
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teledynbummer10:48
flaccid_i find that ext2 undelete never works10:48
fregor#kubuntu-fr10:48
mayarag: hola10:49
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teledyni'm using jfs now10:49
Search4LancerJucato: slow as balls10:49
xsachawhen kernel 2.6.19 comes out:  ext4 :P10:49
xsachait's at rc3 right now10:49
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teledynxsacha: yeah but its still way in the development stage. i wouldn't even think of trying it for a couple years.10:50
thill2708teledyn; I suppose with something like spinrite or perhaps some other actual physical medium phorensics resurection you could retrieve the data though10:50
teledynits in the kernel mainly for development10:50
thill2708Man, I'd kill for Reiser-410:50
thill2708I mean, he did10:50
xsacha:|10:50
teledynthill2708: yeah i've heard of that kind of thing.  there's still layers of material with magnetic impressions on them.10:51
cpk2yup i can see the "fs of choice for murderers" coming on10:51
thill2708"Would you kill for linux?"10:51
Jucatotsk tsk :)10:51
thill2708"Linux: Ruining relationships with women since '91"10:51
teledyni've used reiser, xfs, and now jfs.  jfs seems pretty good so far10:51
teledynthill2708: what a great quote10:52
ahmedhi10:53
thill2708Maybe she'll have a Reiser Extion?10:53
thill2708...too much?10:53
thill2708meh, it's reaching.10:53
ahmedwhen i trry to install compiz under kubuntu 6.06 i got this error10:53
ahmed Depends: compiz-plugins but it is not going to be installed10:53
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thill2708anyways, is there any theme worth getting that's better than kubuntu's stock bouncyball purple?10:54
xsachaan emerald theme?10:54
macoxpxsacha: hey10:54
xsachahi10:54
seishinbyouSomething more blueish?  Anything other than the pinstripes Mac OS uses10:54
thill2708xsacha: don't got beryl or emerald10:54
xsachaget them :D10:55
thill2708stable?10:55
thill2708tv-out?10:55
xsacha:( you need tv-out?10:55
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macoxpxsacha: it shows up in the gui but it gives me a error hold on i'll see what it was10:55
thill2708xsacha desperately10:55
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thill2708bsg/lost/the office/movies all up on the flatscreen10:55
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thill2708totally ruined by the s-video of course ;)10:55
ahmedwhen i trry to install compiz under kubuntu 6.06 i got this error10:56
xsachawhy not use flatscreen as monitor?10:56
macoxpxsacha: could not mount device. the reported error was: mout: cant find dev/hdb1 in etc/fstab10:56
ahmedDepends: compiz-plugins but it is not going to be installed10:56
xsachaoh yeah that's fine macoxp10:56
thill2708already have the svideo cables, and I don't think that the next tv I buy when I move in a little while will have the right connector10:56
macoxpxsacha: it's fine?10:56
xsachait's just automounted cause it's not in /etc/fstab10:56
xsachanot automounted*10:56
macoxpxsacha: so it's just gonna pop up everytime i access the drive?10:57
seishinbyouahmed> I saw a similar error in relation to other things; I don't remember how I fixed it unfortunately10:57
xsachaaccess it?10:57
sF|XemanthWhen is the official release date for Kubuntu Edgy Eft ? its not in topic :|10:57
xsachait's empty lol10:57
seishinbyoulots of apt-get -f install and apt-get remove --purgestuff10:57
macoxpxsacha: but i'm gonna fill it up10:57
xsachayou can mount it if you want but right now it's empty10:57
ahmed:(10:57
xsachaok, private message -->10:57
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macoxpxsacha: how do i log in it says i'm not registered again10:57
thill2708sf: on the 27th, I think10:57
seishinbyouanyways, I have to head off to another meeting...lovely10:58
xsachaok: /msg nickserv identify password10:58
ahmedi wanna try to install xgl but i have this problem :(10:58
thill2708Xenmanth: but you can just get the RC and apt-get update10:58
Jucato!schedule sF|Xemanth10:58
wildchilddoes anyone know what lines do I have to uncomment? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28084/10:58
Jucato!schedule | sF|Xemanth10:58
ubotusF|Xemanth: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:58
wildchildit's from my sources.list10:58
ahmedis it possible to install it under kubuntu 6.0610:58
wildchild!mp310:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:58
Fuzzy76Adept and apt both claims a process keeps my package database locked, even after a reboot. Any tips?10:58
Jucato!adept-crash10:59
sF|Xemanthaha10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
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xsachawildchild: line 34 and 36 shouldnt be commented :S why did they fail?10:59
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JucatoFuzzy76:10:59
thill2708what are the little boxes in konquerer that come up when I press ctrl?10:59
JucatoFuzzy76: try this command in Konsole: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"10:59
xsachafor security11:00
Fuzzy76I think I figured it out... dpkg -configure -a11:00
Fuzzy76yeah, thanks :)11:00
Jucatothill2708: I think they're called access keys11:00
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Jucatothill2708: accessibility feature11:00
wildchildxsacha: I didn't know they were for security..11:00
Fuzzy76It never fails. I can struggle with a problem for an hour, but the instant I ask for help it resolves itself. :p11:00
thill2708Jucato: they're all the links on a page lettered as hotkeys... just found that out.. rediculous11:00
ahmed!copiz11:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about copiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:01
ahmed!compiz11:01
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:01
Jucatothill2708: not really ridiculous. It's an accessibility feature that people are actually looking for in most browsers11:01
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Jucatothill2708: if you want to turn them off: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/156911:02
thill2708nah, they're interesting11:02
thill2708just caught my eye, and had never seen it before11:02
Jucatoheh11:02
thill2708"Wtf are all these letters...?"11:02
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thill2708"This is some whacked out bug"11:03
thill2708It doesn't really get every link, though11:03
Jucato*that* is the bug :011:03
Jucato:)11:03
thill2708heh!11:03
thill2708:D11:03
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thill2708shift keys and alt-numbering bytes11:04
Jucatoand when you run out of those? lol11:04
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thill2708the red squares would be ctrl-shift11:05
thill2708then ctrl-shift-leftshift11:05
thill2708then I don't know11:05
Jucatolol11:05
thill2708then you've got a problem on your hands11:05
thill2708maybe it should only index the links on teh screen?11:05
Jucatoor a problem with the web page :)11:05
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thill2708Is there a skeleton for my own server start|stop|restart script to put in /etc/init.d?11:07
thill2708a skeleton file that is11:08
Search4Lancerin Adept, what is the difference between removal and purging?11:08
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JucatoSearch4Lancer: same difference in apt-get, or any apt-based app: remove just uninstalls/removes the program while purge also removes the configuration files that were installed/setup with the program11:09
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Search4Lancerawesome, Adept randomly closed itself...11:10
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Search4Lancerwell, looks like it took care of it, so, no matter11:11
cpk2could just use apt-get =P11:13
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thill2708Is there a way to create a launcher on my desktop that issues the following command: echo "enabled: 1" > /proc/acpi/acer/wireless11:17
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thill2708but in su mode/11:17
thill2708?11:17
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morghanphoenixhttp://www.vendetta-online.com/11:32
morghanphoenixSorry, but I have to promote this at least a little11:32
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morghanphoenixBetter than most windows games I've played in it's genre.11:33
thill2708Is there a way to create a launcher on my desktop that issues the following command: echo "enabled: 1" > /proc/acpi/acer/wireless11:34
thill2708but in su mode?11:34
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macoxphey how do you run konqueror as root?11:39
Jucatomacoxp: Alt+F2, "kdesu konqueror"11:39
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macoxpok not what i ment how do i open system:/media/sda1 as root?11:41
xsachathat's how you do it11:41
Jucatolaunch Konqueror as root, then go to that location/directory...11:42
xsachajust type in /media/sda1 in address11:42
macoxpthanks !11:42
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xsachawhat is sda1, did you find out? it looks like a raid drive11:43
Jucatocould also be a usb drive...11:43
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Jucato(or a usb card reader..)11:43
Jucatoor a...11:43
xsachait's 300GB11:43
Jucatowhoa11:43
JucatoI didn't see that :P11:43
xsachai think11:43
macoxphmmm it's still giveing me access is denied errors11:43
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xsachamacoxp: what drive is it? it's 290GB or something?11:44
cpk2or its a sata11:44
macoxpi have 40gb maxtor, 120gb wd both IDE, and a 300gb sata maxtor11:44
cpk2and you shouldnt need root to view it?11:44
macoxpcpk2: I'M TRYING TO GET FILES OFF MY OLD NTFS PARTATION SO I CAN REFORMAT IT AS LINUX11:45
macoxpoops11:45
macoxpsorry for caps11:45
xsachaahh 300gb sata11:45
cpk2ohhh ntfs11:45
xsachayou need to have ntfs read in kernel, dont know if it is in kubuntu?11:46
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xsachaanyone know if it's in generic kernel kubuntu uses?11:46
macoxpxsacha: i could read my last drive just fine this one is giveing me problems tho11:46
xsachaoh ok11:46
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xsachais that drive in your fstab?11:46
cpk2i think so but you need fuse11:46
cpk2sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o umask=0007 is all you need to do?11:47
cpk2well sda1 in your case11:47
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macoxpxsacha: i remember somthing about permissions when i loaded it but i cant remember what it was11:47
monadhi... how do i make a full upgrade from badger to edgy?11:47
xsachait's already mounted, need to unmount?11:47
macoxpxsacha: hu?11:48
cpk2macoxp: how did you mount it?11:48
xsachait must have automounted.. but maybe not as ntfs? :S11:48
macoxpcpk2: i used teh auto utilit11:48
cpk2macoxp: unmount it11:48
xsachaumount /dev/sda1 /media/sda111:48
macoxpcpk2: how?11:48
cpk2!fuse11:48
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse11:48
xsachahe doesnt need to write, just read11:49
cpk2although i guess you might need fuse11:49
cpk2xsacha: beat me to it11:49
macoxpit says it's not mounted but i can still browse it what?11:49
xsachasudo ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o umask=000711:50
macoxpxsacha: command not found11:50
xsachantfsmount isnt a command11:50
xsachayeah11:50
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cpk2!ntfs11:50
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:50
cpk2use that link11:50
xsachamount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda111:50
cpk2my bad on ntfsmount11:51
macoxpmount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy11:51
macoxpmount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/sda111:51
xsachawhat did umount say before?11:51
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macoxpxsacha:11:52
macoxpumount: /dev/sda1: not mounted11:52
macoxpumount: /dev/sda1: not mounted11:52
xsachagood11:52
xsachathat means it worked11:52
macoxpso i should be able to copy now right?11:52
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xsachanow you need to mount again: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda111:53
Carbon_Monoxidehow to make an instant mount of Windows NTFS partition? I don't want to mount it at bootup.11:53
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xsachaCarbon_Monoxide: that's what /etc/fstab is for11:53
macoxpmount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy11:54
macoxpmount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/sda111:54
Carbon_Monoxideah! Seems like xsacha and macoxp are talking about it. I'm just too late11:54
Carbon_Monoxidexsacha: I don't want to mount it at bootup11:54
xsachaoh11:54
xsachawhat hard drive is it? /dev/hda1?11:54
macoxpsda111:55
xsachanot you macoxp :P11:55
macoxpxsacha: ok lol11:55
Carbon_Monoxidexsacha '/dev/sdb5'11:55
xsachait seems to be automounting for you macoxp :S11:55
xsachaCarbon_Monoxide: try: mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb5 /mnt11:55
macoxpxsacha: i just cant copy lol11:55
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xsachamacoxp: i think i know problem -- private message --->11:56
Carbon_MonoxideI did 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb5 [somewhere] '11:56
Carbon_Monoxidedo not need to 'su'?11:56
xsachasudo will do11:56
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xsachait should be mounted at [somewhere] .. didnt work? :S11:57
macoxpxsacha: how do i log in again i forgot lol11:57
xsachamacoxp: /msg nickserv identify password11:57
Carbon_MonoxideI did that, but it doesn't let me browse the mounted directory as the permission is not mine11:57
xsachaoh :(11:57
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xsachatry kdesu konqueror /dev/sdb511:58
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monadhi... i'm running badger on a university machine and i'm not too well versed in kubuntu - how can i do a full upgrade to the latest kubuntu version?11:58
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Carbon_Monoxidekdesu konqueror doesn't work properly12:00
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thill2708monad: change your sources.list12:00
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cpk2monad: i think change all the breezy to dapper12:00
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cpk2monad: keep in mind edgy is coming out this week12:01
thill2708monad: replace all "badger" to "dapper"12:01
monadso i probably wait for edgy12:01
xsachawhat's problem?12:01
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thill2708then gksudo "update manager -c -d"12:01
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cpk2kdesu*12:01
gzevsperoHi, I'm trying to install ruby, I type ./configure --prefix=$HOME but get the error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". I just installed the latest gcc. What could this be?12:01
Jucatocpk2: he can't update to edgy without updating to dapper anyway12:01
thill2708oh, yeah12:01
cpk2gnome uses gksudo12:01
cpk2gzevspero: you cant apt-get the ruby dev files?12:02
monadwhere can i get the exact contents of sources.list, or shall i just replace it in there manually12:02
cpk2!easysource12:02
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:02
monadjucato: is that so?12:02
Jucatomonad: I believe so12:02
thill2708monad: very12:02
cpk2monad: skipping releases during upgrades is not recommended12:02
monadok...12:02
thill2708It's iffy to upgrade this way anyways, your best bet is to just reinstall12:03
thill2708best recomendation: make a /home partition12:03
monadseriously?12:03
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monadreinstall?12:03
thill2708oh yeah12:03
cpk2no upgrading by 1 version shouldnt be iffy12:03
monadi thought kubuntu was a practical distro12:03
cpk2that is bad advice!12:03
thill2708badger to edgy?12:03
gzevsperocpk2: what would I type to do apt-get the ruby dev files (newbie)?12:04
thill2708he said he was going to wait for edgy12:04
Carbon_Monoxidexsacha: 'kdesu konqueror /[mnted dir] ', but 'kdesu konqueror /dev/sdb5' doesn't12:04
cpk2badger to dapper12:04
monadwell then i'll upgrade to dapper and then to edgy12:04
vanydeutsch12:04
Jucatomonad: yes. Badger -> Dapper then -> Edgy12:04
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monadanother question: i have trouble getting ssh to work properly on this machine... it12:04
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monads possible to get out oh it, but not into it12:05
godmachine81can someone tell me if the firefox in kubuntu's repos is built with QT or if it uses gtk2 ?12:05
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JucatoCarbon_Monoxide: you can't browse a /dev afaik12:05
Carbon_MonoxideJucato: yea!12:05
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Carbon_Monoxidewell... How about making the mounted NTFS partition READ ONLY?12:06
vanyhi12:07
nii_hello every one12:08
vanyhi nii12:08
nii_how ru doing vany12:08
vany good and you?12:08
cpk2gzevspero: when you apt-get ruby it will probably recommend the dev package12:08
nii_am also doing great12:08
vany where are you come from?12:09
Carbon_Monoxidewould 'mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/sdb1 /[mnt dir] ' do?12:09
monadok, after i got a new sources.list, what then?12:09
nii_am in Africa, Ghana12:09
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nii_and what about you12:09
vanyim from germany12:09
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vanyhow old are you?12:09
nii_oh that's nice12:09
nii_but have you heard of Ghana12:09
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vanyyeah, i know where ghana is12:10
vanyim 15 and you?12:10
nii_ok12:10
xsachaoh sorry Carbon_Monoxide .. yeah that's what i meant :P12:10
Tm_THi kids.12:10
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Jucatohi Tm_T, sir :)12:10
vany how old are you nii??12:10
nii_am 2412:11
nii_what oprating system do u use12:11
JucatoO_O12:11
Carbon_Monoxidexsacha: do you mean 'kdesu konqueror /[mnt dir] '?12:11
Tm_TJucato: Sir? =)12:11
xsachayes12:11
Jucatoguys this is not a private/general chat room12:11
vanykonversatoin ICR chat12:11
nii_am 2412:11
nii_am 2412:11
nii_have you got it12:11
nii_it's like my net is very slow12:11
vanydo you have something like icq odr msn?12:11
Jucatovany: yes I know. but this chat room is for Kubuntu  support12:12
Tm_T!offtopic12:12
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:12
vanyah okay12:12
Tm_T;)12:12
Jucatovany: Kopete can handle ICQ and MSN12:12
vanythanks jucato12:12
vanyfor msn and icq i handle with gaim12:12
Jucatovany: Kopete is the KDE counterpart of GAIM12:13
vanyah okay12:13
vanywhere are you come from jucato?12:13
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ubuntuhi12:13
Jucatovany: Philippines12:14
vanyhi ubuntu12:14
ubuntuitaliani?12:14
Jucato!it12:14
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:14
vanyIm from germany12:14
vanydu you handle with gaim or kopete?12:14
Jucatovany: I use Kopete when I'm on Linux. GAIM when on Windows12:15
Carbon_Monoxidevany: yea, I know you are from Germany.   :)  You don't have to mention it over again12:15
belsebubis there any plugin for kopete to show my current status message?12:15
Carbon_Monoxidebelsebub: you don't need any plugin to do that12:15
vany:)12:15
godmachine81can someone tell me if the firefox in kubuntu's repos is built with QT or if it uses gtk2 ?12:16
Jucatobelsebub: like if you hover your mouse over the protocol icon at the status bar?12:16
vanycan you give me your ID for icq ? please...12:16
belsebubah! now i see :D thanks Jucato12:16
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vanyhow old are you jucato?12:18
vanyhow old are you jucato?12:20
Carbon_Monoxidedoh ! 'mount' made a "System Volume Information" onto my Windows partition!12:20
Jucatovany: 2312:20
JucatoCarbon_Monoxide: that's from Windows :)12:20
vany okay12:20
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Carbon_MonoxideJucato: ahh! that would be fine  :)  thanks! Jucato12:21
Jucatoiirc, System Volume Information is a hidden system directory in Windows12:21
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Carbon_MonoxideJucato, you seems like knowing alot about OS and file system12:22
vanyi have to go now! bye jucato and co12:22
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JucatoCarbon_Monoxide: not a lot12:22
Jucatovany: bye!12:22
vanybye bye12:22
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JucatoCarbon_Monoxide: it just so happens that I wondered about that same folder, too :)12:22
Carbon_MonoxideJucato: so is there any way to do with the permission to the mounted dir12:23
Jucatohm... to be honest, I don't recall how I setup my ntfs/fat32 partitions...12:24
JucatoI think I just used the Disks & Filesystems module from System Settings12:24
monadcan someone help me setting up ssh, so that i can't just tunnel outside, but also inside?12:28
Carbon_MonoxideJucato: I'm revising the 'mount' Linux man page tho12:29
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some0ne(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)12:34
some0ne(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering12:34
some0ne=(  !12:34
some0neDamn proprietary driver!12:34
some0neIs anyone in here using ati drivers successfully?12:35
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maikelnightcan anybody help me configuration samba client?12:39
maikelnightconfigurating, sorry12:39
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Carbon_Monoxidefinally got it work12:40
Carbon_Monoxide'sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro -o uid=[uid]  /dev/sdb1 ~/mntdir' got it work for specified user12:41
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Guest630hi12:43
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izizihi12:43
izizii just quickly wanted to ask, i am going to install kubuntu on my old 1mhz powerbook anything specific i have to watch out for? one of you guys have experience with this setup ?12:44
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Carbon_MonoxideWhat? 1 MHz powerbook?12:45
JucatoO_o12:45
izizidid i get something wrong there ?12:45
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Carbon_Monoxidehmm... sorry, I just cannot imagine the performance of a 1MHz machine12:46
Jucato1Mhz?12:46
Carbon_MonoxidePerhaps I'm too young. Sorry!12:46
monadcan i just apt-get remove kdm if i don't want any graphical login manager?12:46
iziziuh jah its a ghz sorry12:47
Jucatowhew :)12:47
Carbon_MonoxideLOL12:47
izizi:)12:47
Tm_T8 MHz is enough for lots of things.12:47
Carbon_MonoxideTm_T: yeah!12:48
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Carbon_MonoxideI've been using a 80386 with several MHz12:49
some0ne!xen12:49
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy12:49
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iziziokay besides the mhz ghz struggle i have and the amusement for you guys, anything i should consider or are there any how twos installing kubuntu on a powebook?12:52
Carbon_Monoxideand a 4MHz powerpc can do many jobs12:52
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monadhmmm... i just ran apt-get remove kdm, which worked fine, but when i start kde now, the toolbar is missing. when i try to reinstall kdm, it tells me:12:53
monadE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.12:53
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monadhad this problem before, and it nearly broke everything12:53
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esashellooooooooooooooooo12:55
esashelloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo12:55
esaswhy is nobody here12:55
esas#nl-kubuntu12:55
some0neSeriously. :-\12:55
Carbon_Monoxidehella esas12:55
esascan i help you12:56
esashahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha12:56
Carbon_Monoxideyes if I got problem12:56
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monadweird, my kde toolbar is just gone01:04
rahmetlimonad: log out and log in back again :)01:05
monadrah: i even rebootet01:05
some0nemonad Hold alt-f2, type xterm to open a terminal. Type kicker, give me the output.01:05
monadi ran apt-get remove kdm, which obviously also removed the kubuntu-default-settings, i reinstalled both, and the funny thing is, the toolbar is there, it's just empty except for the console01:06
monadand kicker is already running01:07
kirkwhats the standard installation size of kubuntu on HDD?01:07
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hirshi01:08
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macoxpxsacha: crash lol01:12
macoxpit's working!01:13
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hirsIs there a way to convert kde mimetypes to firefox mimetypes?01:13
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monadthis is really weird.... i just upgraded to dapper, everything worked fine, then i removed kdm, and now it seems highly unstable01:14
monadi reinstalled kdm and kubuntu-default-settings, which had been removed01:14
monadnow when i login as user, the X session last for about one minute then terminates itself01:15
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hirsmonad: do you have enough disk space?01:15
monadhirs: more than enough01:15
monadlogging in as root and starting X works fine01:16
macoxphirs: there can never be enough01:16
monadremoving kdm under badger worked fine01:16
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hirsmonad: you could see what is going on by runing xinit and then in the xterm starkde, you will see all the kde starting messages01:16
monadis there some ind of rc script to let kdm remain installed and stop kdm permanently as under gentoo?01:17
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monadbut why could it be that the kde/X config for the user is broken while it works for root?01:19
hirsmonad: you may check /tmp/* permissions01:19
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macoxphey what should i do about video codics i cant watch anything01:19
monadhirs: /tmp/ is set to drwx------01:19
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hirsmonad: you should check /tmp/kde-<your_user> is owned by your user01:21
monadhirs: it is01:21
hirsmonad: weird, have you check startkde output?01:22
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monadhirs: as i said, i can start an X session, but it terminates itself after a while, there's no background image and the toolbar is empty01:22
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monadit was stable under badger, where i removed kdm manually01:22
monadbecause the guy working on the machine abhors graphical login managers01:23
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hirscan you do an xinit and then launch kwrite from the xterm?01:24
monadwhile inside kde?01:24
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hirsnop, when you run xinit, you get an X server and a xterm, no wm no extra apps01:25
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monadok, will try, just a sec01:25
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macoxpi cant play video01:28
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macoxpanyone help?01:28
monadhirs: worked....01:28
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monadhirs: the weird thing is, i can login as user without problems, even run startx, just kde looks strange, the toolbar is empty except for a console, not even the kde menu on the far left is there01:29
monadhirs: and no window list01:29
Carbon_Monoxidemonad: Would making the runlevel 3 to the init do what you want?01:30
monadcarbon: i don't know... the only thing i actually wanted to do is remove kdm, so that after i boot, i just stay inside the terminal01:31
hirsmonad: may be your kde config has messed up, you could try mv .kde .kde.bak then startx and see what01:31
monadhirs: yes, that's probably what happened01:32
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monadweird weird... i still don't trust kubuntu01:34
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ubuntuwho is ubuntu expert here :-)01:36
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ubuntuif you are Ubuntu expert and can help me can you so write private to me01:37
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macoxpcan someone help me play video01:38
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Carbon_Monoxidemonad: might removing kdm in '/etc/rc2.d' do? (you have to check if your runlevel at startup is 201:43
Carbon_Monoxidemonad: Perhaps removing it would be an dangerous action, you bare the risk to do that01:44
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ubuntu_Botanwho is ubuntu expert here :-)01:44
ubuntu_Botanif you are Ubuntu expert and can help me can you so write private to me01:44
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tony_I made some changes to my grub.conf in a root konsole. How do I save it?01:46
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sam_Hi Folks, I am running ubuntu edge x86_64 and I have 32bit firefox running through the linux32 command. The problem I am having is that flash does not have any sound. I have killed artsd and tried to run though aoss, but it is still silent. Is there something I am doing wrong?01:48
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makoto-sansalut tous le monde :)01:49
makoto-sanquelqun peut-il m'aider ?01:50
Lynouresam_: Try on #ubuntu+1 the beta versions are discussed more there01:50
Lynoure!fr01:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:50
makoto-sanoki01:50
makoto-sanmerci beaucoup01:50
Lynoureyou are welcome :)01:50
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sam_Lynoure, thank you :)01:50
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Lynouresam_: occasionally on dapper I have had flash soundlessness, but restarting the browser has helped then, edgy might have different causes01:52
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wildchild!mp301:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:53
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zeraki have asked this question several times before but no good solution yet. Haveing DHCP client problem (at least i think since my network get fixed after requesting a new ip), sometimes it works but mostly not. I read some old bug report about dhcp trouble but nothing that helped me01:58
monadhm, something seems to have changed in all the glu, glut stuff from badger to dapper01:58
monadi get an awful lot of error messages when i compile01:58
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monadanyone into this?01:59
zeraki am a newbie but you got all things installed, all dependencies?01:59
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teledyni installed the menu package but still do not have the debian submenu.  anyone know how to get it?02:01
monadyes02:01
monadbut it seems there've been changes02:01
monadso somewhere f.e. it's looking for ../GL/gl.h, yet there is no such file02:01
monadlooks like an inconsistency02:01
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monadbecause one file is calling the other one02:01
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esas#nl-kubuntu02:03
Jucato!nl02:03
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl02:03
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teledynNiederlandische Unterstutzung fr Ubuntu findet man in #ubuntu-nl02:05
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kebe18come si f ad ascoltare mp3?.... mi sono gi scaricato amarok, juk, noatun, rhythmbox......02:10
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tuskerninia bisogna di codecs w32codecs02:10
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macoxphey can someone help me update my open office?02:21
BadRabbit320ok, how do I get Adept to let me install...tells me I'm "read-only"02:21
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JucatoBadRabbit320: does it say that something else is using the package database (or something like that)?02:24
Jucatomacoxp: what do you mean? version 2.0.2 is still the latest on Dapper02:25
macoxpJucato: oh 2.0.4 not out yet hu?02:25
Jucatomacoxp: not for Dapper, at least02:25
Jucato!openoffice.org edgy02:25
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB02:25
JucatoEdgy will have that 2.0.402:25
macoxpJucato: alrighty02:26
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BadRabbit320Jucato: sometimes, others it sits there for a few sec's, asks for pw, then nothing02:27
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JucatoBadRabbit320: oh... I don't now that one. sorry :(02:28
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Distro^Junkiecan someone tell me why my monitor module wouldn't be loading ? currently using kubuntu edgy02:30
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Distro^Junkieworked fine for a few days then all of the sudden my monitor is all out of wack02:31
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BadRabbit320anyone know why Adept tells me I'm "read only"?02:32
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BadRabbit320nothing in the taskbar running other than Adept once I've clicked it02:33
Carbon_MonoxideBadRabbit320: Your sentances are hard to be understood02:33
BadRabbit320Adept tells me I am "read-only"; can't make any changes or install any pkgs02:34
JucatoBadRabbit320: just a hunch, try running this command in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a02:35
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BadRabbit320Jucato: ok, trying...02:35
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Jucatoer going afk for a while... sorry...02:36
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Carbon_MonoxideBadRabbit320: Did it prompt you to input your root password while starting Adept?02:38
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BadRabbit320Jucato: now I can't enter my pw...02:39
JucatoO_o02:39
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Jucatothat can't be right...02:40
BadRabbit320Jucato: still won't take input for pw02:40
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Carbon_MonoxideBadRabbit320: What's meant by "can't enter pw"?02:40
JucatoBadRabbit320: you see the box where you need to input your password, but you can't type in it?02:40
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BadRabbit320Jucato: correct02:42
Jucatohmm...02:42
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BadRabbit320after entering the command, screen drops to next line for pw, but won't allow any text02:43
JucatoBadRabbit320: aaaah02:43
JucatoBadRabbit320: that's the normal way you enter passwords in Konsole/command line02:43
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BadRabbit320Jucato: yeah, imagine how "I" feel...02:44
Jucatoyou just type in your password and press Enter. you won't see anything that you type02:44
JucatoI thought you were talking about the dialog box that appears when you try to run Adept02:44
BadRabbit320Jucato:  ok, trying again...02:44
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BadRabbit320Jucato: pardon a noob's ignorance, it's setting up a bunch of files now02:49
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JucatoBadRabbit320: ah. Adept must have crashed earlier so it wasn't able to finish what it was doing. hence, you got locked out02:49
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BadRabbit320Jucato: what would/could Adept be doing when I first tried to open it?  Does it run automatically?02:51
JucatoBadRabbit320: is it the very first time you ever opened it?02:51
BadRabbit320Jucato: no02:52
JucatoBadRabbit320: do you recall if you tried to install/remove/upgrade something before this started happening02:52
BadRabbit320Jucato: I usually go in, check for pkgs, then sudo apt-get them02:53
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BadRabbit320Jucato: haven't opened it for a cpl days02:53
JucatoBadRabbit320: ah something with apt-get then, probably02:53
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BadRabbit320Jucato: sudo apt-get seems to do a better install, some things tell me I need to get add'l pkgs to run them, sudo a-g pulls everything at the same time...guess u guys call them "dependencies"...02:56
JucatoBadRabbit320: yes. and Adept is just a pretty GUI for apt-get. so it also tells you the same things02:56
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BluesKaj'Morning02:57
Jucatomorning BluesKaj02:57
BluesKajhi Jucato02:57
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astronautehello03:01
BadRabbit320Jucato: one thing I noticed (talking w/cpk2), icon'slicer is listed in Adept, but when I try to sudo a-g, it says it isn't a pkg (or something to that effect)03:01
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josh__whats up people... anyone in here program in C++?03:02
astronautei mounted a ntfs partition in kubuntu with mp3 files, BUT when i click on them in konqueror to play them in XMMS, there are special caracters apearing in the name of the file in XMMS03:02
astronauteand if I open the same file in XMMS (open file...) everything is ok03:02
BluesKajastronaute , file association tags maybe?03:02
JucatoBadRabbit320: what's the package name?03:02
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Carbon_MonoxideBadRabbit320: Is there any pkg manager that you are running other than Adept?03:03
BadRabbit320Jucato: icon-slicer03:03
astronauteBluesKaj what tags ?03:03
BluesKajmp3 ID tags03:03
JucatoBadRabbit320: I can install it using apt-get without problems03:03
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astronauteBluesKaj if i open same file directly in XMMS i have no problem03:03
astronauteif i open it by konqeror it cant play03:04
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Carbon_Monoxidejosh_: What's up?03:04
astronautei dont understand why you are talking about mp3 ID tags sorry03:05
astronauteits all about file names03:05
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BluesKajdon't open in konq03:05
Carbon_Monoxideastronaute: Are your tags multi-byte-fonts?03:06
astronauteCarbon_Monoxide how to check it ?03:06
astronauteits french kubuntu03:06
astronautemaybe its because of that03:06
astronautebut its really weird03:06
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BadRabbit320Jucato: ok, now that adept is fixed, I'll try again.  no, only adept or sudo a-g03:08
Carbon_Monoxideastronaute: try "Option > Prefrerences > Fonts > Options > Use fontsets"03:08
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JucatoBadRabbit320: ok. glad that it's working again :)03:08
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BadRabbit320Jucato: THANKS! getting icon-slicer now!!!03:10
JucatoBadRabbit320: no prob :)03:10
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BadRabbit320Jucato: how do I up kde from 3.2 to 3.5?03:11
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JucatoBadRabbit320: sure you don't want to wait for Edgy?03:11
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BadRabbit320Jucato:  new to linux anyway...what's another cpl days...?03:12
ctwHi! I upgraded to Edgy and now my dual monitor xinerama setup is broken. I'm using the same xorg.conf file as under dapper. I have an integrated centrino graphics chip with the i810 driver. Does anybody know anything about this / have any suggestions? I'm happy to post my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log ...03:13
BadRabbit320Jucato: when the time comes, I'll just d/l an iso, burn it, reformat this hd, install edgy...03:14
JucatoBadRabbit320: well just 2 days more actually... :)03:14
JucatoBadRabbit320: or you can simply dist-upgrade to Edgy from Dapper03:14
ctwthe display on the 2nd Monitor is all screwed up (e.g. the background doesn't get redrawn when a window is moved there)03:14
astronauteCarbon_Monoxide ths but its doesnt works03:14
astronautekubuntu is a bit bugged for media files no ?03:15
xsachawhat bugged?03:15
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astronautefor exemple if i choose to open mp3 files alweys with xmms, its still open them with amarok03:15
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astronauteand i cant just drag and drop mp3 files into xmms playlist, but this is maybe xmms limitation03:16
BadRabbit320Jucato: I stuck a 10gig hd in this(for data), but after reading the how-to's, it's still sitting inside, seen, but not accessible...oh, well back to the how-to's03:16
astronauteis there any other mp3 players where I can just drag & drop files in playlist like in winamp ?03:17
xsachaamarok..?03:17
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xsachaNoatun too :P03:17
astronautedont like amarok03:17
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JucatoJuk03:18
BadRabbit320Jucato: but to install on a fresh format, wouldn't that eliminate any potential problems?03:18
astronautewhen i push play in amarok it doesnt play them its skip all files03:18
astronautegreat =)03:18
BluesKajbrb03:18
JucatoBadRabbit320: maybe, or could create more (Edgy is new) :P03:18
xsachaskips all files? :S03:18
astronauteyep weird03:18
xsachayou have it set to random play?03:18
astronautenope defaults03:19
astronautefirst time i use it03:19
xsachai think that is default03:19
BadRabbit320Jucato: hmmm...decisions, decisions03:19
xsachait should be anyway03:19
astronauteit doesnt play at all just skipp al files as they were 0 secondes03:19
astronautei retry03:19
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xsachaodd, never had that :S03:20
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bertuwhen i try to open a cd or the konqueror, i am getting this error03:20
bertuThere was an error loading the module Icon View.03:20
bertuThe diagnostics is:03:20
bertu/usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so: undefined symbol: _ZN6KParts16BrowserExtension12itemsRemovedERK8QPtrListI9KFileItem03:20
xsachamaybe Noatun is what you want..03:20
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bertucan ssomeone help mee?03:21
astronauteit wont work, i push play but it wont play, and stop button is still grey03:21
astronautedefinitly hate amarok03:21
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astronautei try noatun03:21
BadRabbit320Jucato: gotta run some errands(...errors?) thanks again! I'm pickin' this up a keystroke at a time...03:21
xsachadont let noatun's theme scare you, can change it to much nicer03:21
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JucatoBadRabbit320: that's the way to do it. one thing at a time :)03:22
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BadRabbit320Jucato:  I've already put my sounds in, can hardly wait to get "my" cursor stuck into this penguin...8-003:23
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BadRabbit320Jucato: GOTTA run...03:23
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bertualso...how can i browse the drives??03:24
astronautexsacha03:25
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bertu!konqueror03:25
astronautenoatun error : arts server blabla03:25
astronautenormal ?03:25
astronaute=)03:25
ubotukonqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 1911 kB, installed size 5168 kB03:25
astronautedamn kubuntu03:25
astronaute=)03:25
xsachanoatun needs arts03:25
astronautei have arts in adept03:25
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astronauteit say error instanciating arts03:25
xsachabtw you can try Kaffeine too, it allows you drag/drop03:25
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xsachayeah i mean it actually needs arts running03:26
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xsachaSystem Settings -> Sound System03:26
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astronautexsacha kafeine same as amarok03:27
astronautei push play it stops immediately03:28
xsachalol03:28
astronautereally i dont understand03:28
xsachahave you got your music to play in any player?03:28
astronauteof course03:28
xsachait's probably not a problem related to the player?03:28
astronautexmms play it good, but kubuntu wont allow me to auto open files with it03:28
astronauteits says ok03:28
astronautebut its opened by amarok03:28
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astronautenever saw a distro like this03:29
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astronauteand its supposed to be based on debian03:29
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xsachawhen you first started amarok, it asked you to install some package for mp3 right?03:29
astronautenope03:29
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macoxpcan somone help me install azureus 2.503:29
xsachaand you installed it?03:29
astronautefisrt thing ivce done is upgrade all in adept03:29
xsachahave you ever installed that package?03:29
astronauteof course03:29
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astronautewhich package ?03:29
xsachait doesnt come with distro03:30
astronauteamarok and kaffeine are isntalled by default03:30
astronautei installed xmms03:30
xsachayou have to download it extra after installing03:30
astronautenope03:30
xsachayes03:30
astronautei have 6.06 dapper03:30
xsachato use mp3s03:30
astronauteah03:30
astronautemaybe youre right then03:30
xsachait should have given you a popup telling you to03:30
astronautebut why it doesnt say that it need some extra package damn03:30
xsachathat popup would do it all for you03:30
xsachait does03:31
macoxpxsacha: *begs* help me install azures 2.5 :D03:31
xsachabut it wont repear it03:31
xsacharepeat*03:31
astronauteon my system i never hade that popup03:31
astronauteanyway03:31
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astronautei install it03:31
xsachakdemultimedia-kfile-plugin -- do you have this?03:31
xsachawith an 's' on the end03:32
Jucato!kdemultimedia-kio-plugins03:32
robinhello, I am trying to install the k7 kernel using the command line in edgy, I am doing it the same way I always have in other kubuntu versions but its not showing up in grub, any idea's anyone?03:32
ubotukdemultimedia-kio-plugins: enables the browsing of audio CDs under Konqueror. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 608 kB03:32
xsacha!kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins03:33
ubotukdemultimedia-kfile-plugins: au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 120 kB, installed size 484 kB03:33
Jucatolol sorry xsacha :)03:33
JucatoI guess I need more tea :S03:33
astronautei look03:33
astronautenot same computer sec03:33
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astronautei have them both xsacha03:34
xsachaim not sure which ones it downloads because i just clicked OK03:34
astronauteand i installed all 4 packages for amarok03:34
astronauteavailables in adept03:34
xsachabut it doesnt come with03:35
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xsachait asks when you load it up tho03:35
astronautei never installed it , maybe xmms installed it dunno03:35
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astronautebut anyways it IS installed =)03:35
xsachadoubt it03:35
astronauteand amarok doesnt play files ok no matter, i will use xmms its less bugged, just can someone can tell me how to force kubuntu to open files with xmms instead of amarok ?03:36
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astronautexsacha im not such noob, it is installed i double checked it in adept and apt03:36
astronauteyou want screenshot maybe03:36
xsachawhat is it called then? because i dont know03:36
astronautekdemultimedia-kio-plugins03:36
xsachano lol03:36
BluesKajastronaute , I suggest you load your files into the xmms playlist03:36
astronauteand sec i look other03:37
xsachai told you i dont know what it is called but i am 100% it doesnt come with it03:37
xsachait asks you to download it when you first load it and doesn't ask again03:37
astronauteBluesKaj yes i have to do that because drag and drop doesnt works, but i would like at least to open mp3 files in xmms on click in konqeror and not in amarok03:37
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astronautexsacha ok then you are maybe right, but chance that that happens to me are near to 0 with bot kaffeine and amarok03:38
xsachathey only prompt once..03:38
astronauteim debian user and really read all popups especially error ones03:38
astronauteanyway it wont work its not problem03:38
BluesKajif you move your files into xmms , tou won't need to use konq03:38
astronautebut how do you explain open with... feature bug ?03:38
xsachafile associations bug?03:39
tom_hello, i have an directorie with files: a,b,c,d,e....03:39
astronauteBluesKaj drag & drop in xmms playlist ? if you are talking about it, it doesnt works03:39
astronautexsacha yes03:39
tom_with rm * i remove them all03:39
astronautesorry for my bad e,nglish03:39
xsachafile associations -> audio -> mp3?03:39
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tom_but i want to remove all except b03:40
xsachaApplication preference Order:03:40
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xsachaXMMS is on top?03:40
tom_how can i do that03:40
tom_??03:40
astronauteright click on any mp3 file then : open with / choose program / xmms CHECKBOX always open it with this program / Ok03:40
astronautedoesnt works03:40
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xsachaastronaute: Settings->Properties->File Associations->Audio->x-mp3->XMMS03:41
bertucan someone help me??03:41
xsachaproperties=configure konqueror03:41
astronautesettings konqueror ?03:41
astronautek i look03:41
JucatoSettings -> Configure Konqueror03:41
bertuI need someone to help me with conqueror03:41
silvaniaHeya, my USB mouse or/and Keyboard dies on random - mostly when i start a new application in X, anyone know how to avoid having to unplug and plug usb devices in again?03:41
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astronautexsacha great that works now03:43
astronautebut it wont play in xmms that way03:43
astronaute:)))))03:43
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xsachawhy not?03:44
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astronauteok so i think i have KDE issue here03:44
astronautedunno it says 0:0:003:44
astronautepushing play doesnt works03:44
xsachasame as amarok?03:44
astronautei suppose03:44
bertuSOMEONE HELPP03:44
bertuPLS03:44
xsachabad or .. most likely.. no plugin03:45
astronauteno error message03:45
xsachatry and find/install the mp3 plugin03:45
astronauteas i said before03:45
bertu:'( PLSPLSPLSPLSPLSPLSPLS03:45
xsachayes if it was bad you'd get error, so it's probably you have no03:45
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gnomefreakbertu: you need to tell us how we can help you if you dont we cant help03:45
astronautefor exemple file : don't.mp3 appears as don%27t.mp303:45
astronauteif i click it in konqueror03:45
astronauteand if I load it in xmms directly its ok03:46
xsachawhy are you clicking them in konqueror anyway?03:46
astronautewhat that can be ....03:46
xsachai think %27 works fine03:46
astronautemaybe to listen music no ?03:46
xsachai've never heard of anyone clicking them in konqueror to listen to them :S03:46
astronauteyes others files doesnt works too03:46
bertuat last...someone responded....when i run konqueror it gives this error......03:46
bertuThere was an error loading the module Icon View.03:46
bertuThe diagnostics is:03:46
bertu/usr/lib/kde3/konq_iconview.so: undefined symbol: _ZN6KParts16BrowserExtension12itemsRemovedERK8QPtrListI9KFileItemE03:46
astronautewithout any special caracters03:46
xsachayou add to a playlist via the media player and then listen in there03:46
robinAnyone know how to  set the order of os's in grub03:47
xsachaive never used konqueror for that except for individual files03:47
BluesKajastronaute , use xmms to store your mp3 files, not konq03:47
gnomefreakbertu: what version of konq. what version of kubuntu?03:47
bertui have edgy03:47
gnomefreakbertu: ask in #ubuntu+103:47
astronautexsacha yes but its my gfs computer, its hard to explein her that linux doesnt know how to play mp3 files on click03:47
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astronauteso i have to make it work or find another girl03:47
astronaute:)03:47
astronautekidding03:47
xsachateach her how to use the media player and in the mean time, try and find the plugin03:47
xsacha:P03:48
astronauteyes, but she is already bored always oppening xmms and adding files03:48
bertuok03:48
xsachayou just add once :S03:48
xsachaand much faster when you do add03:49
astronauteyou know gfs are weird03:49
xsacha..no.. lol03:49
astronauteshe prefer having folder open with mp3s in there03:49
astronauteand clicking on them03:49
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BluesKajastronaute , ppl here are giving good advice ...won't work unless you follow it....linux isn't windows , better get used to it03:50
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usamahashimihi all03:51
astronauteBluesKaj im on debian, my gf is on kubunto, i hate windows my gf love simplicity03:51
hazard2*TEST*03:51
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hazard2Wow, I'm confused.03:51
hazard2I don't have an IP...and I'm here....03:51
xsachawell, you do :)03:52
astronautehazard2 is "hazard" (n=hazard@129.63.27.118)03:52
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hazard2inet addr:169.254.173.24203:52
hazard2no, I assure you I don't.03:52
xsachaso?03:52
silvaniaanyone else having problems posting new paste on pastebin.com?03:52
BluesKajsimple enuff to store the mp3s in xmms03:53
xsachainet addr:192.168.0.102  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0   -- this is my eth003:53
xsachadoesnt mean i have no ip03:53
avutonIs there a list of known issues for kubuntu 6.10-rc? I'm thinking of migrating my wife over today from OpenSUSE; I want to make sure things go smooth.03:53
hazard2169 is the 'self assigned' IP range.03:53
astronautehazard2 you are looking in wrong place, you have several eth cards maybe03:53
xsachaso is 19203:53
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hazard2no, 192 is internal home networking03:53
astronautenope 169 means = error03:53
hazard2(so is 10.*.*.*)03:53
Jucatoavuton: Edgy (6.10) will be released in about 2 days.03:53
hazard2I know I don't have more than ethcard either03:54
astronautehazard2 your ip is 129.63.27.118 actually, so dont try to explain thing you dont master03:54
avutonJucato: so if I install -rc today, I can update in 2 days right?03:54
Jucatoavuton: yes03:54
hazard2and no other internet stuff is worki8ng03:54
avutonJucato: sowould you happen to know if any issues?03:54
hazard2(I'm thinking that IP is the cached hostname from this machine on the IRC server)03:54
astronauteok then you are jesus i suppose welcome back03:54
xsachamaybe your DNS hazard03:54
hazard2that too03:54
silvaniaHere is my problem in detail: http://pastebin.com/812584  still having my usb mouse die when i open programs03:54
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Jucatoavuton: not really. there might be some tings they'd try to iron out. but I don't have anything specific03:55
hazard2Yea, so this is weird (we just lost and got power back a few seconds ago, so I dunno what's going on)03:56
xsachai've had that before03:56
silvaniaAny help apperciated - so i dont have to unplug and replug my mouse every 5mins!03:56
avutonDoes kubuntu have to lvm support?03:56
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xsachayou're at uni hazard?03:57
hazard2yes03:57
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Jucatoavuton: yes. but you need to use the Alternate Install CD (text based installer) rather than the Desktop CD (Live CD) to have LVM support at installation03:57
xsachaUniversity of Massachusetts - Lowell03:57
hazard2so god knows what's going on03:57
hazard2Yes, its not hard to figure out from DNS03:57
xsachait's hard to get it without someones ip03:57
ZeeO.03:58
avutonJucato: thanks again03:58
hazard2which I'm to lazy to mask inIRC.03:58
xsachalol03:58
hazard2still self assigned.03:58
hazard2sigh03:58
hazard2looks like all the ineternet I'm gunna get is IRC03:58
Lynourehazard2: try running the interface down or up, or just run dhcp client again03:58
hazard2(though even this shouldn't be working)03:58
Lynoure(gone)03:58
xsachatry not self assigned03:59
hazard2no, the IP range shoulld be 129.whatever, not 169.whatever03:59
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MaterMaravillaeofftopic question: (i'm spanish) How do you call the time period in which if a product you bought stops working you get a free replacement? warranty or guarantee?04:00
xsachatry http://64.233.167.99 hazard204:00
hazard2try for what?04:00
xsachasee if it's dns?04:00
hazard2MaterMaravillae: both, sort of04:00
ZeeOhey what is a good place to insatll unrar to04:00
MaterMaravillaesort of?04:00
MaterMaravillaedang04:00
MaterMaravillaehaha04:00
hazard2yea, google opened.04:01
xsachaDNS problem then04:01
ZeeOso i can run it from no matter where04:01
MaterMaravillaebut they're both valid, aren't they?04:01
hazard2watching the network traffic, it seems everyone is still asking for IPs.04:01
Qaldunecreo q si mater04:01
MaterMaravillaeok thx hazard2 y Qaldune04:01
hazard2but warranties I think you generally pay for, and garuentees you just kind of get with the product (EG, a 30day money back gaurentee, vs a 3 year warranty you buy)04:02
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MaterMaravillaeoh04:03
macoxphey my samba shares stoped working can someone help me?04:03
hazard2But I'm not sure.04:03
MaterMaravillaeok hazard204:03
hazard2later, off to class04:03
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hazard2(and away from the networking insanity)04:03
BluesKajWarranty's are usually the norm , guarantees have more to do with a financial contract than a product .04:04
MaterMaravillaei just needed to know that i wasn't using a word that doesn't exist04:04
MaterMaravillaethanks  a lot04:04
MaterMaravillaety04:04
BluesKajwarranty!04:04
JuJuBeeI need assistance.  I installed kubuntu a few weeks ago and recently re-installed ubuntu then the kde stuff.  Under kubuntu, there was a K menu item called System Settings.  I was able to control the Display properties with that.  I have a laptop with external rgp that   I use in my classroom.  Where is the display properties now?  I dont see it with the recent install?04:04
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xsachain Settings JuJuBee04:05
macoxpJuJuBee: are you running ubuntu with kde or kubuntu04:05
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xsachaubuntu with kde from what i understand04:05
JuJuBeeubuntu with kde04:05
macoxphey my samba shares stoped working can someone help me?04:05
xsachaJuJuBee: default kde from source sticks it in Settings directory04:06
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xsachamenu04:06
JuJuBeeWhere do I set mirror or span for my monitor?04:06
xsachashould be a display option there04:06
MetaMorfoziSon your monitor's hud;)04:06
MetaMorfoziSor osd04:07
JuJuBeeSorry to sy, but there isn't.04:07
xsachaMonitor & Display04:07
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JuJuBeeNope.04:07
xsachait's in Computer Administation menu04:07
przemekmacox: Try on #samba04:07
JuJuBeeNo Monitor's & Display.04:07
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xsachado you have kde control?04:08
JuJuBeeControl Center? Yes04:08
xsachayes in there04:08
klerfaytwhat is kubuntu edgy channel?04:09
xsachahere :)04:09
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Jucatoklerfayt: you could also try asking in #ubuntu+104:09
JuJuBeeNo monitors and display in any section of kde control center04:09
arriespxao gente04:09
xsachanothing similar to display?04:10
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JuJuBeeNope.04:10
BluesKajmonitor/04:10
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JuJuBeeno monitor.04:10
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xsachait's in there somewhere though cause it's always been there for me :P04:11
BluesKajappearances?04:11
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xsachai assumed when he said any section, he checked all sections like appearances04:11
BluesKajyeah04:11
robinis there a program that will configure tv out? I have mine working but just wondering if there is an easior way for next time?04:12
JuJuBeeI Did.  Appearance & Themes04:12
JuJuBeeNo monitor settings.04:12
BluesKajI haven't run ubuntu for a while ...my memory fades04:12
xsachafor me: Computer Administration04:12
xsachain kubuntu right now04:12
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xsachafrom source it was called something else04:12
oslowhen i try to open an audio cd in konqueror i see no files04:13
MetaMorfoziSwhan ff2 relasing?04:13
MetaMorfoziSi know that in today04:13
xsachait has been released yesterday04:13
MetaMorfoziSbut i don't see anywhere04:13
MetaMorfoziSyes?hmm! i want my firefox 2:)04:13
xsachareleased version is same as rc304:14
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: later this day, I think. but you have to wait for someone to package it in Ubuntu to get it from the repos04:14
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MetaMorfoziSno i like from binary04:14
JuJuBeeCan I install the Monitor Control separately?04:14
MetaMorfoziSbut okay..04:14
macoxpxsacha: hey can you help me install azures 2.5?04:14
MetaMorfoziSi can't wait:///04:14
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: from repos = binary04:14
xsachai dont know what azures is :S04:14
xsacha!azures04:15
MetaMorfoziSsorry, so i dthinked to download the tar.bz and mv to /opt...04:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about azures - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:15
MetaMorfoziS!azureus > xsacha04:15
MetaMorfoziS^ typo;)04:15
xsachayou should have let that paste in channel, it had installation instructions link :P04:16
MetaMorfoziSi think the flash 9 have some space in the topic...04:16
MetaMorfoziSnotM04:16
MetaMorfoziS?04:16
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xsacha!azureus>macoxp04:16
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macoxpxsacha: how bot firefox 2 rc3?04:18
macoxpbout04:18
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xsachai really dont know.. maybe my amd64 repository is special04:19
xsachabut firefox 2.0 final is listed in my web section repository04:19
macoxpxsacha: i download firefox-2.0rc3.tar.gz and now i dont know what to do with it04:20
xsachayou dont need to, it's in adept04:20
macoxpxsacha: v2?04:20
xsachayes04:20
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xsachait has been there for about a day i think04:21
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MetaMorfoziSbut in otherways04:22
MetaMorfoziS!firefoxNewVersion04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefoxNewVersion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
MetaMorfoziSorsomething else04:22
MetaMorfoziS;)))04:22
MetaMorfoziS!firefox04:22
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:22
MetaMorfoziSoh, that^^04:22
MetaMorfoziSthattells you what you need with tar.bz04:22
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Jucatoer that's a very old wiki04:22
xsachaif i try to apt-get firefox  -- it installs firefox 2.0 from repository04:22
MetaMorfoziSbut the apt-get way is easiest04:22
MetaMorfoziSold, but work04:22
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MetaMorfoziS^^ yes? ff2 isn't erlased yet04:23
xsachait is04:23
MetaMorfoziS(if i know good)04:23
bertuhey..its working04:23
bertuXD04:23
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bertutonio_: working!04:23
macoxpMetaMorfoziS: hey i searched adept but cant find it04:24
Tonio_bertu: hehe cool :)04:24
xsacha2.0 final has been on public ftp and http since yesterday04:24
xsachamacoxp: do Fetch Updates04:24
bertunow...from where can i browe the hdd...sort of the my computer04:24
xsachathen types in firefox in search, it'll be 2.004:24
macoxpi dont see 2.0 anywhere only 1.504:25
bertutonio_: how can i browse the hdd?04:25
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xsachamaybe just for amd64, but i doubt it..04:26
BluesKajFF2 can be DL'd here:    ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/04:27
xsachaill post a screenshot.... here: http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6544/snapshot1bf6.png04:27
JucatoBluesKaj: I think they're saying somewhere that downloading it from the FTP directly is "hurting Mozilla"04:27
xsachahas been in repository as 2.0 for almost a day04:27
xsachaatleast04:28
bertucan soneone tell me how to open the "cOmputer?04:28
SHRIKEE:o04:28
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SHRIKEEgrab a screwdriver04:28
macoxpxsacha: can the wrapper run a 32 bit wireless driver on a 64 bit linux?04:28
BluesKajJucato , I just DL'd it no prob04:28
xsachandiswrapper? not sure04:29
xsachaBluesKaj: http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6544/snapshot1bf6.png  -- you can d/l from repository04:29
JucatoBluesKaj: it's not you that's going to have the prob. it's them. but anyway, I don't know how it hurts them. they're just sayintg that it does04:29
macoxpBluesKaj: i want linux-i686 right?04:29
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robinwhat do most think of automatix here?04:30
BluesKajyes macoxp , as long as yer running a new P4 pc04:30
xsachaevil04:30
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SHRIKEEwhy is ff2 so big04:30
SHRIKEE33M04:30
robinevil? lol04:30
xsacha33M is big? :P04:30
SHRIKEEwell 1.5 is like 6-9M04:30
macoxpBluesKaj: i'm running a new amd pc :D04:30
hazard2it is on a 4gb drive04:30
xsachaall the eyecandy ;)04:30
xsachai honestly don't know, i don't use it04:31
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SHRIKEExsacha, remember a couple of hours ago. the fan control thing i was asking about?04:31
macoxpxsacha: it must onyl be 64 kubuntu caus i dont see it like you04:31
xsachayes shrikee04:31
SHRIKEEwhen iclose the lid of my laptop the fan actually turns of04:32
SHRIKEEuntill the lid is opened04:32
xsachamacoxp: i've had that for almost a day, weird that they would give it to 64 first04:32
MetaMorfoziSmacoxp: please geive me alink for firefox204:32
MetaMorfoziSi have never found it04:32
SHRIKEEbut otherwise its on the whole time04:32
MetaMorfoziSnot never, nowhere04:32
BluesKajbbiab04:32
xsachaMetaMorfoziS: ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/04:32
macoxpwhy is the firefox downlaod 300 mb's?04:32
macoxpwtf?04:32
xsachathat's development one lol04:33
SHRIKEElol04:33
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SHRIKEEits 33M04:33
SHRIKEEnot 30004:33
xsachathe devel one is 30004:33
macoxp340.2 mb04:33
hazard2BAH!!!!!04:33
xsachaHTTP link: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/04:33
hazard2It seems all my internet stuff works (and I have an IP), *BUT* Kopte won't connect.04:34
MetaMorfoziSumuhuhuh i have it form ftp04:34
MetaMorfoziSthx:D04:34
MetaMorfoziSits 9.0mb.04:34
xsacha5.4MB for me04:34
macoxpxsacha: what do i do there?04:34
xsachabut that's cause you choose specific language04:34
macoxpoh lol i was downloading all the diferent languges lol04:35
xsachaoh oops, 9.2MB for me :P04:35
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xsachamacoxp: i think you downloaded source04:35
xsacha35MB04:35
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MetaMorfoziSyes the 35mb is the source04:36
pielgrzymanyone knows bash well? I want to have a script that will move mp3 files and folders containing mp3 from download folder to music folder. The problem is I can't figure how to make find copy directories containing mp3 :)04:36
MetaMorfoziSwhy not publi is this?04:37
MetaMorfoziSin getfirefox.com it adverts the oldver...04:37
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SHRIKEEFF2 is not out yet, its only release candidates youer downloading04:37
xsachait has been on their public http and ftp for over a day04:37
MetaMorfoziSno04:37
xsachaAND this version is IDENTICAL to rc304:37
MetaMorfoziSor int htat case why it named firefox2.0?04:37
MetaMorfoziSrc23 is in rc3 folder:/04:38
MetaMorfoziSnot?04:38
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SHRIKEEhttp://www.mozilla.com/en-US/04:38
MetaMorfoziS2-04:38
SHRIKEEstare to that04:38
hazard2pielgrzym: cp -r `find {thing to find and where to find it setup so it echos the directory/filename}` {destination folder}04:38
MetaMorfoziSDownload Firefox 1.5.0.7 for Linux i686, Hungarian (8.1MB)04:38
MetaMorfoziShm,04:38
MetaMorfoziS?04:38
xsachaclick on preview below that meta04:38
xsachaand then click on rcs04:38
xsachaand then you'll see 2.0 RC 304:38
MetaMorfoziSumphumphumph04:38
xsacha2.0 RC 3 is identical to 2.0 final04:38
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hazard2though, actually, that would only copy MP3s (assuming you had find looking for the right thing), and you'd have iussues with spaces and special characters.04:39
MetaMorfoziSso i don1t understand04:39
xsachain every way except build string04:39
MetaMorfoziS:D04:39
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pielgrzymhazard2: I use: find [-criteria]  -exec cp {}04:39
MetaMorfoziSso this is rc3?04:39
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MetaMorfoziSand the latest is not relased04:39
xsachafinal is rc3, but the one you downloaded has final string04:39
pielgrzymhazard2: but how to choose only the directories containing only mp3?04:39
SHRIKEEso it seems, MetaMorfoziS04:39
MetaMorfoziScurrently  i have the2-3 days old rc304:39
hazard2the crieterica thing for find never works right for me, so usually pipe it into grep04:39
MetaMorfoziSso no newer relased than this04:39
xsachathe actualy final is called final and it's the one you are downloading but final is actually rc3 renamed04:40
hazard2then have a larger script figure out the rest from that04:40
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hazard2(the problem becoming space handling and the like)04:40
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pielgrzymhazard2: find ./ -maxdepth 2 -iname '*.mp3' -exec cp -rf {} mp3ki2/ \; <- this only copies files, I'd like it to copy dirs with mp3 too :)04:40
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compudazemorning04:40
hazard2then I think you need a larger script to fiugure out "does the folder I'm coping this MP3 from contain only mp3s?" then copy it if it does04:41
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SHRIKEEthats complex, hazard204:41
hazard2(you'd likely need realpath, dirname and basename in there somewhere)04:41
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pielgrzymhazard2: could you give me any clues how to determine if a folder has only mp3? I'm a bash newbie :)04:41
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hazard2yea, well, Its how I'd do it (overly complex)04:41
macoxpthe insall instructions you gave me dont work lol04:42
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hazard2umm....04:42
xsachacycle through each and check if they end in .mp304:42
SHRIKEElol04:42
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hazard2yup04:42
SHRIKEEim gonna get dressed04:42
xsachaif not then skip to next dir04:42
hazard2echo {filename} | rev | grep '3pm.' <if that returns something then the current file is an mp304:42
pielgrzymxsacha: cycle using ls?04:43
xsachafind/*|grep .mp3         <-- this works to just get all mp3s04:43
xsachalisted04:43
xsachaspace between find and .04:43
xsachaslash04:43
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pielgrzymI'll need a loop than to pass the echo results to variables04:43
hazard2yes04:43
pielgrzymthanks for tips guys :)04:44
hazard2while({somecodition}) ; do04:44
hazard2done04:44
pielgrzym:)04:44
hazard2a for loop might work better (but spaces become an issue)04:44
compudazeAny idea why I can't change to the correct refresh rate in KDE or GNOME? I have the xorg.conf correct I thought. HorizSync is 30-97, and VertRefresh is 50-180 per the monitor specs. I'm trying to set 77hz for 1600x1200 but I can only chose 50hz.04:44
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hazard2which you can fix by turning the spaces into some non-printable character (assuming that that character isn't used anywhere else)04:44
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SHRIKEEugh amarok is a bitch04:45
pielgrzymSHRIKEE: yes it is :) but a really nice one ;)04:45
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=== MetaMorfoziS sad about not relased ff2 final yet:((((
xsachait has meta04:45
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ravariahi04:46
macoxppielgrzym: i want it to have all the pritty album art like the new windows player04:46
MetaMorfoziSthat is rc3, you said...04:46
xsachathis link mozilla recommends -- it uses roundrobin server -- http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US04:46
MetaMorfoziSor i don't undersatnd you.04:46
xsachathe final release is rc3.. that's how it works04:46
MetaMorfoziSit's not in the main sites04:46
MetaMorfoziSonly in ftps04:46
xsachathey choose an rc as the final04:46
xsachathey just rename it to final04:46
MetaMorfoziSeh?04:46
ravariacan anyone tell something bout a good 2p2 for kubuntu?04:46
MetaMorfoziSand in this case why not any update for it?04:46
compudazeu mean p2p?04:46
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xsachathat link gives download to it04:46
MetaMorfoziSravaria, nicotine is a soulseek04:46
xsachayou can not upgrade 1.5 to 2.0 yet04:47
MetaMorfoziSclient04:47
MetaMorfoziSno04:47
MetaMorfoziSi have rc304:47
ravaria& run with kubuntu?04:47
xsachathey are going to make a new 1.5 patch that will allow such a massive change i believe04:47
MetaMorfoziSfor 2-3days04:47
macoxpthere should be an automatix tar installing program lol04:47
xsachawell rc3 is identical to the final release MetaMorfoziS04:47
macoxpautomatic04:47
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Chousukemacoxp: that's called APT :P04:47
ravariametamorfozis, run on kubuntu?? what about museek or pyseek?04:47
MetaMorfoziSeh, so it upgraded himself automatically?04:48
macoxpChousuke: apt should let you select tar files and install them for you lol04:48
MetaMorfoziSravaria, dunno, but nicotine is a gtk app for soulseek04:48
xsachagrr MetaMorfoziS what are you talking about?04:48
MetaMorfoziShm okay, one question, what is the old rc3's useragent?04:48
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xsachathe code in rc3 is identical to the final release of version 2.0 -- only the name changed04:48
MetaMorfoziSFriefox2.0rc3?04:48
xsachathe build dates are identical04:49
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MetaMorfoziSonly? no any update?04:49
Chousukemacoxp: it can't do that04:49
ravariawhat means gtk?04:49
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xsachano update whatsoever, only rename04:49
Chousukemacoxp: the tar files contain no information about what is supposed to be installed and where :/04:49
Chousukemacoxp: so you have no control04:49
Jucatoravaria: GTK = the GIMP Tool Kit, the toolkit used by GNOME04:49
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MetaMorfoziSravaria, gtk is a widget library (buttons, checkboxes menus etc) kde uses qt, and gnome uses gtk. gtk is nasty and old, and not crossplatform04:49
MetaMorfoziSkde uses qt anyways04:49
MetaMorfoziSbut both can run both apps04:50
MetaMorfoziSso you can run gnome app on ke and kde app on gnome....04:50
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: not true. GTK is crossplatform04:50
ChousukeMetaMorfoziS: hm. GTK is cross-platform04:50
MetaMorfoziSno, it's not exists for macosx04:50
MetaMorfoziSiirc04:50
Chousukeyes it does04:50
MetaMorfoziSokay, so its crossplatform04:50
Chousukebut it's still alpha04:50
Chousuke:P04:50
xsachalol04:50
MetaMorfoziSbut old and nasty:)04:51
ChousukeI'm not too sure about that either :/04:51
compudazeso any ideas why i can't change refresh rates?04:51
ChousukeCross-platform doesn't mean that software exists for Windows, Linux and OS X though.04:51
MetaMorfoziSyes..04:51
MetaMorfoziSso qt exists more devices/platforms than gtk04:52
MetaMorfoziSfor example pdas and mobilephones...04:52
MetaMorfoziS:)04:52
Chousukeyeah, it does.04:52
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Jucatobut so does GTK04:52
txhi all04:53
MetaMorfoziScompudaze: because your vertical and horizontal refresh rantes in xorg.conf are not correct04:53
MetaMorfoziSn-04:53
MetaMorfoziSrates^04:53
ChousukeQT3 on windows just happens to be non-free. :)04:53
compudazeaccording to the manufacturer they are04:53
ravariaso... nicotine or dunno??04:53
MetaMorfoziSyes, qt have sucks licenses04:53
MetaMorfoziSdupble licenses or wtf...04:53
Jucatobut Qt4 is :)04:53
ChousukeQT4 will fix that though.04:53
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MetaMorfoziSdouble'04:53
txis there netpbm-progs for kubuntu ? i am trying to use gocr with jpeg and these tools are needed, but apt-cache doesn't find them04:53
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: Firefox also has double licensing04:53
MetaMorfoziSi'm a typo writer expert;)04:53
MetaMorfoziSyes???04:54
MetaMorfoziSwhat type, for commercial is not free?04:54
MetaMorfoziS^^ qt haev something like that04:54
MetaMorfoziSno?04:54
Jucatoyeah but not all double licensing are like that04:54
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Jucatoanyway, Qt4 is now free on Windows, too04:54
compudazeHorizSync 30-97 and VertRefresh 50-180 - specs from viewsonics website04:54
Jucatoas long as you use the GPL license04:54
MetaMorfoziS^^ compudaze fire up a konsole:04:55
compudazeit's up04:55
compudazewith the config open04:55
MetaMorfoziSsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old06102404:55
xsachacant wait for all the changed in qt4/kde4 next year04:55
compudazebut i can give u whatever u need04:55
txhow can i install giftopnm in kubuntu ? in what package ?04:55
MetaMorfoziSsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:55
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pielgrzymwhat's the difference between grep and fgrep?04:55
MetaMorfoziSfind this lines:04:55
compudazek04:55
Chousukehm04:55
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Chousukeno04:55
Chousukejust do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:55
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compudazei already reconfigured that way Chousuke04:56
Chousukemanual editing of the config can be avoided. :)04:56
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Chousukeand did you set the refresh rates manually there?04:56
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compudazeyes04:56
MetaMorfoziSmoment04:56
MetaMorfoziSlol i have not setted the refreshrate04:56
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Chousukex.org should autodetect this stuff anyway :/04:57
compudazeadvanced monitor config, it asks for the hsync and vrefresh - i entered the correct numbers for my monitor04:57
compudazeeven remove the monitor line completely did nothing04:57
txplease help, what package i need to install to have giftopnm ?04:57
compudazeto let it 'auto-detect'04:57
MetaMorfoziSoheyeah thais is what oyu need04:58
MetaMorfoziSSection "Monitor"04:58
MetaMorfoziSIdentifier "Generic Monitor"04:58
MetaMorfoziSOption "DPMS"04:58
MetaMorfoziSHorizSync 28-6404:58
MetaMorfoziSVertRefresh 43-6004:58
MetaMorfoziSEndSection04:58
MetaMorfoziSsory04:58
compudazebasicly what i have04:58
MetaMorfoziSi selected too much04:58
compudazecept with the correct numbers04:58
MetaMorfoziSso you need to write something like this tothe monitor section04:58
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: yes a bit too much :)04:59
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MetaMorfoziSso compudaze if you set that well your xorg isn't wake up once again:DD05:00
MetaMorfoziSbut in anyways if you corret it is on the good frequenxy05:00
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MetaMorfoziSi'm a bit fluster05:01
compudazesame settings work in fedora, windows of course works05:01
macoxpi'm haxoring windows media player 1105:01
compudazei'll try a different driver05:01
MetaMorfoziSwhy the ****?05:01
MetaMorfoziSi like if anybody moves to linux and oneminute from that want to install crap win progs'05:02
MetaMorfoziSwhy not good for you the mplayer, and the mplayerr-plugin in firefox?:D05:02
Jucatodoes anyone know where the docs for Quanta's Documentation tab are located? what package installs it?05:02
macoxpMetaMorfoziS: i like the albuim art orginizer05:03
MetaMorfoziSmplayer ablle to play mms:// etc...05:03
MetaMorfoziSi dunno what is that.05:03
MetaMorfoziSbut i don'T think you can't do something like that in other linux app05:03
macoxpMetaMorfoziS: hold on i'll get you a screen05:03
MetaMorfoziSforex in crap amarok or kaffeine...05:03
franjesuscompudaze: try to remove the HorizSync VertRefresh lines05:03
MetaMorfoziSsorry, i don1T want flame, so not crap05:03
macoxphttp://www.hyperosforum.co.uk/images/LAURENT/VISTA/Vista08b%20-%20Windows%20Media%20Player%2011.jpg05:03
belsebubthe gnome setting "Assistive Technology Support".. what would that be in kubuntu?05:04
MetaMorfoziSthisis a simple thumbnailer for images05:04
MetaMorfoziSumph?05:04
xsachaamarok does that... :P05:04
MetaMorfoziSand konqueror...05:04
MetaMorfoziSand anything05:04
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MetaMorfoziSif you copy media files to your desktop that looks like this...05:05
MetaMorfoziSwithout this crap feel;)))05:05
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MetaMorfoziSwhat is the big difference between firefox2c3 and ff2? (i want to check what version that i have)05:06
macoxpif armorok had orginizing by art rather then text i would switch05:06
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xsachaorganise by art? what you mean?05:06
MetaMorfoziSartist...05:07
MetaMorfoziS?05:07
macoxpno alubim art05:07
macoxplook at screen05:07
xsachahow can you sort by pictures?05:07
macoxpyes!05:07
xsachain the pic they are sorted alphabetically05:07
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MetaMorfoziSxsacha: not05:07
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MetaMorfoziScheck ht first line05:08
xsachaMetaMorfoziS: for the last time ff2rc3 IS ff2 final05:08
xsachaweird05:08
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xsachalol05:08
MetaMorfoziSbrambrambram05:08
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MetaMorfoziSi'm not 100%i have the latest ff:/05:08
xsacharc3 is identical to latest.. just the name was changed05:08
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BluesKajclick on about FF05:09
Jucatounless there were some last minute fixes they added05:09
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MetaMorfoziSin the update log onlly have 10.22 the last update05:09
xsachanaah the build date is the same jucato05:09
Jucatoah05:09
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MetaMorfoziSthat is the rc305:09
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pielgrzymhey folks :) is there a way to invoke a popup, simmilar to the one kopere has - I want to invoke it from shell (I don't like knotify default window with 'ok' button - I want a popup ;)05:10
xsachayou can d/l newest because "rc3" doesnt look nice, but i'm just telling you -- you're just downloading the name :P05:10
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macoxpxsacha: hey i was following this tut to get my keyboard working withthe vol play pause ect and it was working but now when i reboot it stoped and i get a text box saying somthing about it05:11
xsachapielgrzym: i don't get what you want, but try: katapult05:11
xsachait's a splash screen without an ok button, does that count? :P05:11
xsachahmm i'll need to take that tutorial too macoxp :P05:12
xsachayou dont just specify larger keyboard?05:12
pielgrzymxsacha: you know how 'dcop knotify' works? It opens a window with text and a button :) I would like to pop-up a balloon like the one that pops out in tray when you recieve kopete message :)05:12
macoxpxsacha:  the tut had me work on a xmodmap.conf file05:12
xsachaahhh yes, i've used that05:13
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pielgrzymxsacha: a balloon that would notify me that my mp3 logicalvolume is running low on space :)05:13
macoxpxsacha: but now when the os starts it loads a text doc not the keys like it should05:13
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xsachathe keys dont work?05:14
xsachapielgrzym: qt instead of knotify?05:14
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pielgrzymxsacha: hmm, I'll try :D perhaps you have some links to proper docs? ;)05:15
macoxpxsacha: does konqurer have a online history so i can go back and find the tut to show you?05:15
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Jucatomacoxp: it's in the Navigation Panel (F9)05:15
Jucatothe history I mean05:16
xsachaunder bookmarks05:16
macoxpbookmarks?05:16
Jucato??05:16
xsachaon the immediate left after pressing F905:16
xsachait's underneath the star (bookmarks)05:16
macoxpf9 moves my windows all around05:17
Jucatoaah ok05:17
Jucatomacoxp: F9 in Konqueror05:17
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Jucatoit's like a sidebar. the icon for History is like a clock05:17
xsachayou're using beryl05:17
macoxpstill does hold on let me edit beryls keys05:17
xsacha?05:17
Jucatooh...05:17
xsachathat's Scale in beryl settings05:17
Jucatolol no wonder...05:17
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MetaMorfoziShmm i wonder...05:18
MetaMorfoziSthe new firefox is f*** fast...05:18
MetaMorfoziSthe startup time...05:18
macoxpok found it hold on while i look05:18
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macoxphttp://www.tannerstokes.com/2006/08/02/getting-those-multimedia-keys-to-work-in-kubuntu/05:19
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xsachahey my multimedia keys already work lol05:20
xsachai just tried them05:20
macoxpxsacha: i hate you lol05:21
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xsachaamarok stopped playing ehrn i clicked stop05:21
xsachaand then i clicked start05:21
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xsachaemail button brought up Kmail Composer05:21
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macoxpxsacha: why does yours get to "just work"05:22
xsachadid you choose 104 key keyboard?05:22
macoxpxsacha: i dont know05:22
xsachain xorg.conf05:22
macoxpxsacha: i did the tut05:22
macoxpand it worked till i shut down05:22
xsachao well, mine's fine05:24
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xsachai never use those keys though, they are at top of keyboard.. so far away05:25
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andres_hola05:25
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macoxpxsacha: can you help me fix this it's annoying haveing it pop up a text box everything i start the os05:26
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xsachawhat text box?05:27
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xsachai gotta sleep, gnite05:29
macoxpxsacha: later05:30
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maryen_OMG05:34
maryen_im not wandering into gentoo anymore05:34
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maryen_after trying to get it to install last night, i gave up when i couldn't find the stage tarball i needed.05:35
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maryen_and i was playing with a premade virtualization last night, and had told it to emerge kde...05:36
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maryen_its still not done 6 hours later ><05:36
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JosefKmaryen_, what are the specs of the box you're building it on?05:38
BluesKajmaryen, I haven't tried gentoo , but I hear it's a real difficult install for noobs05:39
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BluesKajnot that you asre a noob by any means , maryen_...from the sound of it :)05:41
brainwashedgentoo tries to be user friendlier, but their installer is ... crappy05:42
JosefKgentoo has an installer now?05:42
foodcomanIt's a beautiful day in the neighbor hood.  Edgy is almost here.05:42
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brainwashedJosefK: yes, they even made it the default install method, but it doesn't seem to like my laptop ... just crashes05:42
ravariahey.. ones i get the cafeine stuff... it get up-grade normally with the rest of my computer?05:43
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tobiasanyone know any cool games for ubuntu? like masters of orion or something?05:44
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tobiasor kubuntu even05:44
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JosefKneverball's pretty good if you know the secret (use the keyboard, not the mouse)05:44
CVirusbrainwashed: I guess if you want to use gentoo .. then you should be experienced enough to be able to install it from command line ... and please dont start a Flame war .. I'm a Gentoo user myself05:44
tobiasjosefk: thanx ill try that one05:44
tobiasjosefk: do i find it in adept?05:45
JosefKtobias, you should do, it's in universe/multiverse05:45
ravariahey.. ones i get the cafeine stuff... it get up-grade normally with the rest of my computer?05:45
tobias:)05:45
tobiasi love kubuntu05:45
foodcomanWesnoth is kind fun Turn based.05:45
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brainwashedCVirus: I was a Gentoo user too and went through the whole installation process, used it for some months. But _if_ they make the installer the default installation method, it would be nicer if it actually works, thats all I'm saying.05:45
c13398uahuahua05:46
ravariacan anyone tell me if nicotine get updates like the rest of kubuntu'05:46
ravaria?05:46
tobiasfoodcoman: Ill try that one to, is it in adept?05:46
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foodcomantobias: Yeah05:46
leandrinnauhauha05:46
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tobiasweee05:46
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tobiasravaria: it should i think05:47
B-Minushello05:47
Dasthank05:47
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tobiasravaria: I think all the stuff you install in adept gets updates when available05:47
Das_Eimmm....05:47
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foodcomantobias: Its in Universe/Games05:47
tobiasfoodcoman: is it a repository I must add?05:48
Das_Eii don't know... i new in kubuntu stuff... i feel like a lamer05:48
CVirusbrainwashed: got your point05:48
Das_Eithanks any way05:48
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tobiasfoodcoman: I found wesnoth so I have that repository :)05:49
foodcomantobias: You just have to make sure its enabled in Adept Menu Adept/Manage Repositories.05:49
foodcomanYeah05:49
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Das_Eithe line was "su -c 'echo "deb http://www.nicotine-plus.org/ubuntu branch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'" should it be installed on the adept?05:51
foodcomantobias: Search and you will find.  http://www.happypenguin.org/05:51
tobiasfoodcoman: thanx :)05:51
tobiasIm a very happy penguin05:51
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maryen_JosefK: its a dell e150505:54
Das_Eithe line was "su -c 'echo "deb http://www.nicotine-plus.org/ubuntu branch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'" should it be installed on the adept?05:54
foodcomantobias: Lots of adventure games, some require installation like http://www.eternal-lands.com/05:55
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foodcomantobias: Pretty easy for some of the established multiplayer games05:55
maryen_BluesKaj: I'd say my experience with linux is moderate, but sadly I can't install gentoo until i find that one file (either that or do a text-based install again)05:55
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BluesKajwell maryen_, I'm still a bit of a linuxnoob so i enjoy kubuntu due to it's stability and ease of use05:57
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v3ctori am not a linuxnoob so i enjoy kubuntu due to it's stability and ease of use05:58
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BluesKajaltho I'm a bit miffed at cups not being able to see my windows network printer/USB hub connection05:58
BluesKaj:) v3ctor05:59
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phil_kikou06:04
phil_hello06:04
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phil_how are you?06:04
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Alter-Egodoes anyone here use cacti ?06:08
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|WAL|how long after Firefox 2.0 is released is it expected that there will be a Kubuntu package for?06:14
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jhutchins_wkMore than 15 minutes.06:15
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buzcan someone help me and tell me what suspend mode kernel 2.6.15 uses by default?06:16
buzfor suspend to ram06:16
|WAL|jhutchins_wk: what is the typical turnover time for similar things?06:16
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trappist|WAL|: generally new versions of apps won't appear in the repos until the next release of ubuntu, except for the backports repo06:20
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slow-motionhallo06:23
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|WAL|trappist: ok thanks06:27
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tony__hello. my adapt package manager has been locked., and i can not install other packages.. how can i fix this problme06:34
crrjYou may have it running more than once06:35
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jhutchins_wk!w32codecs06:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:35
tony__i tired to install a package few days ago and system froze ( didn't isntall completly)06:35
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tony__i did stoped KDM and restart but still get the same massage06:35
Jucatotony__: type in Konsole: sudo dpkg --configure -a06:35
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tony__thanks.. that seems to solved the problme . :)06:38
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Jucatook06:38
Jucato:)06:38
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villejuhoim having problem with kmix, it doesnt start automatically, i have to start kmix every time i boot my computer.. Eny ideas how to start it automaticlly?06:41
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apokryphosvillejuho: put an executable shortcut in ~/.kde/Autostart06:45
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villejuhoput what in there?06:46
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hazard2UGH!!! Why does kubuntu not remember the sleep timeout for the scrfeen?06:52
hazard2Every shutdown I have to reconfigure it.06:52
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andyhallo06:53
hazard2hi06:53
jonkelle#mambo06:54
apokryphosvillejuho: a shortcut to kmix, or a bash executable file that starts kmix06:54
nitro[XL] i just installed new kubuntu rc version .. but i dont have PLF repositories for this version .. can anyone help me ?06:54
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apokryphosvillejuho: basically, any executable in there will be run on kde startup06:54
apokryphosnitro[XL] : what would you want plf for?06:54
nitro[XL] for additional stuff .. i need