[12:10] so changing the dir. won't help! TBH I think I bit off more than I could chew ;) [12:10] any suggestions? === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-089-211.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] LaserJock: with the debian packages lets say I wanted to have a file that i include in the package installed somewhere how do i do that? 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Iiiiiii Haaave the poooowaaaaaahhh! === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc_ [n=schultmc@c-68-58-138-203.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp5-102.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-141-43.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-52-246.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zMott [n=rick@2492160hfc23.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-083-102-068-117.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zMott [n=rick@2492160hfc23.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-141-43.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ezsquirt [i=bowser@vol21-1-82-224-19-51.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion201@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-63784896965683b2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@220.247.248.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] imbrandon: ping === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-aca96e626c6ac397] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.151.104.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@125.212.8.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dexem [n=dani@131.Red-80-35-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] heya everyone [08:45] hi imbrandon [08:45] Hi imbrandon. [08:45] moins fellas === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] there is a software that I want to package [08:57] it is a java software and doesn't have regular directory structure (bin/ share/ ..) should I put it in /opt ? [08:58] no, the package guide states nothing can go into /opt from the repos [08:58] what should I do then ? [08:59] what does Debian Java policy say? [08:59] where's that ? 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I'd like to know if my blogfeed is good enough for planet.ubuntu.com [09:58] hey siretart [09:58] heyho ajmitch [09:59] http://validator.w3.org/feed/ [09:59] sigh, request for new upstream versions still being filed === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2E42.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] ajmitch: I read that the archive is final for edgy, is this correct? [10:05] siretart: not for universe, afaik [10:05] but for main, yes [10:05] siretart, just fyi too , i've run planetplanet localy a few times and its pretty tolerant of feeds [10:05] ( planetplanet runs planet.u.c ) [10:05] good morning [10:05] so please people, fix universe bugs while you can! [10:05] heya dholbach [10:05] hey dholbach [10:05] hey dholbach [10:06] imbrandon: I'm already on a planet of my local LUG: planet.lusc.de. I think it works reasonably there, and I wonder if thats good enough for p.u.c [10:06] heya ajmitch, imbrandon, siretart [10:06] siretart: sure! there's a guide on the wiki how to do it (how to get on planet) [10:07] siretart, they preobably run the same software, so i would imagine so, it only takes a few mintes to set it up to test ( or you can always add it , if its not right remove it ) [10:07] siretart: yes, we want to see your blog :) [10:07] wow. my feed passes validator.w3.org with warnings only [10:07] siretart, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu <-- how to add your feed [10:08] ha... warnings are for loosers! move on to planet ubuntu! :-) === dholbach hugs siretart [10:08] I'm not using a blog software, but a quite patched dokuwiki for my feed. therefore I wasn't too sure if that's good enough for planetplanet [10:08] :) [10:09] cant be any worse than blogger.com feeds , ugh [10:10] ajmitch: http://wiki.tauware.de/blog:tags:english [10:10] imbrandon: http://wiki.tauware.de/doku.php?blog=feed&tag=english [10:10] my old blog before i moved my site to dreamhost i actualy did the rss via a php script that grabed the info from my db and remade the rss ever 5 minutes on cron by hand [10:10] now THAT was hackish hehe [10:10] but it was a home grown cms [10:10] s/cms/blog [10:11] wow. every ubuntu member can checkout the planetplanet config? sweet [10:11] siretart, yup [10:12] it says it can take upto 4 hours to show up but it only take about 10 minutes in reality [10:12] imbrandon: I'm pretty sure the planet script only runs every hour or two. [10:12] hm. I still don't have a hackergotchi [10:12] Fujitsu, not grabbing the rss from the blogs, you can see the update time on the right, every 11 minutes or so [10:13] Updated on October 24, 2006 08:02 AM UTC. Entries are normalised to UTC time. [10:13] from the right ^^ [10:14] and ~about 08:13 it will update again === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] aha. dholbach doesn't have a hackergotchi either :) [10:16] jdub didn't like the one I made ages ago :) === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] so at some stage, I'll probably have a new one === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] the one with the flower? [10:17] heh [10:17] siretart: we can make one for yo [10:17] jsgotangco: no, unfortunately not ;) [10:18] use the "germans" photo of highvoltage heh [10:18] hehe, that was funny [10:18] Fujitsu, ok so i was a few minutes off : Updated on October 24, 2006 08:16 AM UTC. Entries are normalised to UTC time. [10:19] still more than 1 or 2 times an hour ;) [10:19] ajmitch: you'd just need a suitable template, no? ;) === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/518 [10:20] the famous siretart :) [10:20] hehe [10:20] waits for behind ubuntu to interview ajmitch [10:20] imbrandon: in a couple of weeks, I think [10:21] ;) [10:21] I got an email from them [10:21] of course I don't have any photo to supply for them :) [10:21] hehe [10:21] who is behind ubuntu? [10:21] wah. that was in turkey about 3 years ago [10:22] great place there, btw. nice place for scuba diving :) [10:22] Burgundavia, seaLne iirc [10:22] hmm [10:23] ajmitch: at least our interview never went online [10:23] yea what ever happened to that podcast ? [10:23] it got lost, thankfully [10:23] :) [10:23] heh [10:24] me and sladen are supose to be getting our podcast going again sometime, dunno when [10:24] heh [10:25] ahh these bigtime f/oss superstars [10:25] says mr international celebrity speaker [10:25] hehe [10:27] hum video other than theora can be in a ogg container ? [10:27] siretart: scuba diving? [10:27] afaik it's possible, but I haven't seen it [10:27] ajmitch: where is your blog? [10:27] dholbach: I don't blog [10:28] ajmitch, does totem ( or what ever the default ubuntu gnome video player is ) play xvid OOTB ? [10:28] ajmitch: very thankfully :) [10:28] xvid/ogg specificly [10:28] Hobbsee: thankful that I don't blog? [10:28] ajmitch: then you should :) [10:28] imbrandon: no idea [10:28] dholbach: I have nothing interesting to write about :) [10:28] ajmitch: to the interview that got lost [10:29] Hobbsee: just don't remind jdub about it [10:29] yea ajmitch and Hobbsee's blog are missing from planet [10:29] ajmitch: right [10:29] ajmitch: sounds good to me [10:29] imbrandon: hush. === Hobbsee doesnt blog either [10:29] imbrandon: I don't want to send people to sleep [10:29] ajmitch: sure you do - all your dirty little secrets - the world has a right to know! :-) [10:29] my blog hasnt been there for a year [10:29] haha === dholbach hus ajmitch === dholbach hugs ajmitch [10:30] if I were to write, it probably wouldn't be about ubuntu, most of the time === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] hello DBO [10:30] btw I noticed that mooch has a blog for his dj mixtapes - that's a cool idea [10:30] hello ajmitch [10:30] dholbach: scuba diving is englisch for "Geraetetauchen" [10:30] siretart: ahhhh ok :-) [10:31] Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus or so. [10:31] ajmitch: ahh but i am but a simple software developer for a non-profit now [10:31] heh [10:32] jsgotangco: just waiting for your next big appearance [10:32] doh === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch considers starting a blog to bore everyone :) [10:37] hum besides -dev and -core-dev what are the other major "groups" of *ubuntu [10:37] -members [10:37] i have an idea but i need a few categorys [10:37] k -members , -doc-team ? [10:37] those are the 3 that grant various rights [10:37] sure, you also have doc, marketing, etc [10:37] ajmitch: But you already bore us? :-P [10:37] & smaller teams like -desktop, -qa, -server [10:38] StevenK: thanks, I'll go & cry myself to sleep now [10:38] Heh [10:38] At 8:30pm? [10:38] A little early to be depressed, isn't it? :-P [10:38] well i would like to keep it to like 4 or 6 groups that cover most all people [10:38] thus developers, members , ..... [10:39] developers == both dev and core-dev [10:39] but just those two leave alot of people out [10:39] but i dont wanna break it way way way down to -qa -desktop etc [10:39] imbrandon: why do you need to do that? [10:40] just an idea i had for a "faces.ubuntu.com" with a gallery of mugshots ( not bios ) of the ubuntu community [10:40] or something kinda like it [10:41] thus 4 or 5 "categorys" for faces [10:42] the intoduce your self thread on the forum gave me the idea [10:42] really i dunno, was just a passing thought [10:43] imbrandon: aha === ctd [i=ctd@shell.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] wow. my blog got added even without flooding the planet === siretart is impressed [10:50] woohoo [10:53] hehe [11:02] 'morning [11:04] hey jelmer [11:04] so, where's the next Ubuntu development meeting? === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] Hi jelmer (you weren't gone for long) [11:05] nope, just one uni course [11:05] jelmer: probably after release [11:11] ah, ok [11:13] since the next one would have been on release day [11:13] when noone would want another meeting [11:13] heh [11:13] No one would be there. :P [11:13] They'd all get excused from the meeting to work on the release. :) [11:13] except the hordes of screaming users [11:14] man i hate release time [11:14] imbrandon: don't hate it, just get fixing bugs [11:14] imbrandon: we'll avoid thursday, right? :P === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] Hobbsee, hehe [11:17] man, thursday is going to be all hands on deck in #ubuntu === Hobbsee wont be there === Hobbsee will be doing an assignment === DBO marks the day [11:18] It helps that all the people in #ubuntu+1 who know how to use edgy get autoforwarded to #ubuntu on the same day :) [11:18] Amaranth, really starting today , alot upgrade early becouse its frozen anyhow ( main ) [11:18] i will be there aussie time [11:18] imbrandon, and to avoid the server destruction [11:18] I'll probably be passed out on the floor [11:19] a noble way out =P [11:19] hehe === dani_ [n=dani@131.Red-80-35-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DBO waves at Hobbsee [11:20] how you been? [11:20] DBO: assignments, work, etc [11:20] DBO: uploading from time to time [11:20] generally busy [11:20] got it =) [11:22] hey folks === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:28] hey sivang [11:28] heya sivang === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B2CB0.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] yo dholbach Hobbsee imbrandon sivang === sivang high fives zakame === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-d4bc99985c6f09ee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:48] how can i make sure that a 4:3 ratio theme is available for usplash to show ? === dexem [n=dani@131.Red-80-35-41.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] or a theme to display on a 1024x768 resolution === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-107-91.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] cypher1: All of the official theme packages have such themes. [11:58] Fujitsu: thanks === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:04] Fujitsu: is there any document or tutorial on how usplash works ? [12:07] anyone here use rsync regularly ? [12:10] imbrandon: I use it a bit, but not exactly regularly. [12:10] cypher1: Not as far as I know. [12:13] brandon@horatio:/media/devel/support_files$ rsync -CvzapP --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/edgy-desktop-powerpc.iso . [12:13] rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (104) [12:13] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(614) [receiver=2.6.8] [12:13] Fujitsu, ^ [12:14] The server crashed, or something? I've not seen such an error before. [12:15] ahh it seems -devel i'm not the only one having issues [12:15] its working now, something must have been borked at the DC [12:19] rsyncd could have died [12:20] okay, I see a lot of rsync clients at the moment [12:20] yea iwj was having issues too, but seems ok now === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] zomg ajmitch i FINALY got a full ( as in will compile AND package any regular deb including getting libs etc ) for cross === imbrandon dances [12:30] oh good [12:30] I'm just despairing at certain people who are intent on backporting things like firefox 2.0 to dapper [12:30] i'm gonna find something semi complicated like a kde app to compile and then install it on my ppc to make one final test [12:31] then i'll make a howto, its fairly simple once you know all the peices [12:31] how about anything that uses a binary made at build time? [12:31] hum like ? [12:31] should be plenty of examples - gcc for one :) === Quinn_Storm [n=quinn@pool-141-158-98-252.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] ahh well you have to stap it i'm thinking, there is two ways , one if you have that hardware .... well ...... ummmm [12:32] tbh not sure just yet [12:32] i'll have to test it a bit more [12:32] hey guys...I've heard that I've been away from this channel for too long [12:32] quite a few packages compile a binary & then use that binary to process stuff [12:33] hello Quinn_Storm [12:33] hi [12:33] heya Quinn_Storm [12:33] I want to say first off, I agree that a freeze-and-bugfix mode to work toward feisty is a good idea === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] it'll be necessary [12:34] yea [12:34] i see now, i hadent thought about that, maybe qemu can help out there [12:34] i got to think how to make that transparent though [12:34] imbrandon: especially the user-mode qemu, for running individual binaries [12:35] yea thats what i was thinking [12:35] I think Amaranth really wants to drop the fork...I think obviously he's wrong in that goal...oh and also I think that we're gonna pull debian/ out of each module in svn and make a separate debian/ module & do tarball-based builds like everyone else [12:35] thats how i tested the first binarys i made from hello.c [12:35] Quinn_Storm, yea we're right with ya on that ( not the dropping the fork though , dunno where that came from ) [12:36] we ( me and ajmitch ) had a small chat with DBO earlier [12:36] yeah I'm talking to him now [12:36] about /debian etc [12:36] I just want everyone to know that I'm not ignoring you, or trying to do things "wrong" === DBO joins in [12:36] heya DBO [12:36] hi imbrandon [12:36] I discussed with quinn and nigel_c (suspend2 guy turned beryl) your issues [12:37] and nigel is looking into them now [12:37] Quinn_Storm, no we werent saying that at all , we just noted some things that needed improved a bit to make it better [12:37] yeah, Amaranth has a different tone than you do, imbrandon , that's all [12:37] he's...always angry === snowblink [n=snowblin@wind.snowblink.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] heh [12:37] I know he's trying to help though so it's not a big issue to me [12:37] Amaranth, shame on you [12:38] Quinn_Storm, dont get me wrong the sugestions we sugested woudl go a LONG way to helping me get the package into the repos ina clean way but i dunno about Amaranth's tone or anything else [12:38] Our general goal is to listen to the community and implement any needeed improvements, so things like moving debian/ out, creating the 0.2 branch for feisty, etc. are good ideas we plan to do. [12:39] (we're doing like compiz and using "old" kernel version numbering, so 0.1.x is unstable, 0.2.x stable, etc.) [12:39] Quinn_Storm: good to hear that. at what point of development is beryl now? [12:40] its getting ready for a freeze siretart =) [12:40] Quinn_Storm, cool , keep me in the loop if you would , i guess i got volenteered to do this in the "official way" :) [12:40] gladly, and I think we'll be talking about all this at UDS too [12:40] imbrandon, suckered =P [12:40] yup yup === Quinn_Storm should lurk here too [12:40] yea i'll be at UDS and added myself to the bof [12:40] DBO: cool! [12:40] as will ajmitch i'm sure [12:41] yeah the 'freeze' will be the 0.2 branch...(ahead of previous schedule, but feisty needs it) [12:41] if that's okay with everyone === jsgotangco [n=jsgotang@125.212.8.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] imbrandon: which one? [12:42] honestly its your code but i would do a feature freeze now and a full freeze about half way through the feisty cycle so bugs that come out in feisty can be fixed [12:42] Quinn_Storm, ^^ just my 0.2c [12:42] ok, that makes sense, imbrandon , and if it keeps everyone happy that's great [12:42] ajmitch, i said you will be at UDS MTV [12:42] well...actually [12:42] 0.2 would be a feature freeze but not full freeze [12:43] since its a 'stable' branch [12:43] right [12:43] imbrandon: you said you added yourself to the bof - what spec did you mean? [12:43] the beryl-by-default one [12:43] ok [12:43] ajmitch, ^ [12:43] I'll see if I can muster up the will to come along :) [12:43] heh [12:44] Quinn_Storm, yup yup [12:44] ok, so 0.2 in the very near future, dev moving to 0.3.x, releases coming from 0.2.x, make sense everyone? [12:45] ajmitch: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/selinux-by-default === ajmitch subscribes [12:45] Quinn_Storm: this makes perfect sense [12:46] thom: thanks for proposing that [12:46] ajmitch: i'll get at least a draft spec written up later. [12:46] np [12:46] Quinn_Storm, yup and the other thing was to make tarbals for the releases that " ./configure;make;make install" can be run with nothing else and remove debian/ and .spec files , other than that looks rocking Quinn [12:46] yeah the debian/ and .spec will go into separate build-modules in svn instead [12:46] and we'll drop tarballs for the releases, sure [12:47] rockin [12:47] Quinn_Storm: even nicer - md5sums & gpg sign everything you release :) [12:47] sure...my key is well known, hope I don't ever lose it [12:47] signed by many yet? [12:47] backups !! === Quinn_Storm should pick up a $10 flash drive to make sure [12:48] I don't htink so, ajmitch [12:48] cd-r good too ;) [12:48] get it signed at UDS [12:48] cool, will do [12:48] and be cool like ajmitch [12:48] jsgotangco: :P === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] hi herzi [12:49] Quinn_Storm, feel free to "drop me a line" email anytime too and i'll try to keep up with #beryl-dev when i can [12:50] ugh [12:50] cook strait ferry finally made it into wellington [12:50] poor people who had to sit out there in the rough seas :) === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] sure, imbrandon [12:51] and DBO ^^ hehehe [12:51] I just try to make sure everyones happy === imbrandon just tries to be happy [12:54] but it's far more fun to be bitter & hating [12:54] lol [12:55] and easier [12:55] DBO: I have a radeon 7500, using the opensource 'ati' driver. is that chip/driver fast enough for beryl/emerald? (and is that question already answered in some FAQ I don't know if yet?) [12:55] yes [12:55] its fast enough [12:55] just disable blur and perhaps raise the timestep a bit on the animation plugin [12:55] siretart, i use that exact setup on my lappy just fine [12:55] also dont use fire [12:56] ok, debian/'s are already out in trunk, into distro-specific-build-files/$module/debian === DBO cries for his recently broken build script [12:56] time to write a new one! [12:57] Quinn_Storm: btw, are there 2 differing svn repositories? [12:57] imbrandon: cool. so I 'just' need to compile and install beryl/emerald to profit, right? [12:57] ajmitch: the one on beryl-project.org is a mirror, checked every 1min against the main repo, its for anon checkout to not overtax my machine [12:58] Quinn_Storm: right, not done with rsync or similar? [12:58] svm [12:58] since I couldn't just do svn switch --relocate [12:58] siretart, yea === Lutin [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] its done with svm...it should work I guess svm isn't up to the task [12:58] imbrandon: interesting. will put it on my todo list [12:58] siretart, i've been working on packages too, i ahve some 0.1 ones but i havent updated completely to 0.1.1 yet [12:59] imbrandon: my i915 is supposedly up to it as well :) [12:59] though I haven't tried for awhile [12:59] hehe my i845 does it but slowly [01:00] I'm soon to get a laptop with gma900 in it...hope its good enough, heh...$500 tho...not a bad deal for the machine [01:00] Quinn_Storm: yes, that's what my one is listed as [01:01] cool [01:01] though I got it more for the 100GB disk & 1GB RAM [01:01] than the cheap integrated graphics [01:01] only time I tried compiz on it was when it first came out [01:01] heh I got mine for the $500 pricetag...14" wxga, 40GB hdd (plenty for me), 512MB ram @ 400 fsb (4x the speed of my desktop)... [01:02] imbrandon: how close are your packages to being done? [01:03] ajmitch, i could finish them tonight if i spend about 30 more minutes on them [01:03] I wouldn't mind doing some laptop testing.. [01:03] you don't need sleep [01:03] hehe [01:05] don't feel that you need to [01:05] I'll probably go & sleep before you do :) [01:05] hehe [01:05] well i would do it right now but i have gcc compiling [01:06] you need dual-core [01:06] ye no doubt [01:06] twice the fun [01:07] good to see tfheen being a BRMFH :) [01:08] a what ? [01:08] you know of the classic BOFH? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] no [01:09] hahah classic : Edgy is so frozen, you would not believe [01:09] BOFH = bastard operator from hell [01:09] ahh [01:10] Hahhaha [01:10] it is a classic work [01:10] rm release mgr [01:10] i guess [01:10] yes [01:10] :) [01:10] Would you be one in the future? Heh [01:11] no, not anytime in the forseeable future, i dont want that job [01:11] ever [01:13] I wonder who'll be landed with it for feisty [01:15] haha [01:15] "[snip pseudo bug report] " [01:15] heh [01:15] harsh [01:16] lol yeah quite harsh === imbrandon dident think so [01:16] but i'm a tad bias i guess [01:16] ( to that particular email ) === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@223.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] sleep time, night all [01:26] gnight ajmitch [01:26] I expect everyone to fix some edgy bugs [01:27] :) [01:27] we don't want universe to be frozen in the state it's in [01:27] the mod-mono one needs apache2 rebuilt thats not gonna happen /me moves to the next one [01:28] so get fixing :) [01:28] and I'm going off to sleep, deadlines at work [01:28]