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PulsatingPenguinHey everyone...does anyone have any ideas what this error is about?  I'm getting during boot at "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System":  "Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block xxxxxx"12:02
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ShadowthroneHi, I downloaded eterm but can't seem to find it in the menus and bash doesn't recognise it. How can I run it?12:03
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bbrazilPulsatingPenguin: sounds vaguely like a dying hard disk, or possibly just general corruption12:03
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SirKillalotShadowthrone, try to open a new bash session12:03
SirKillalot(open new terminal)12:03
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ShadowthroneSirKillalot: still nothing. I tried updatedb too and nothing.12:04
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c0ldfusi0nHey guys, anyone having problem with ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64? When i try to install Ubuntu, X fails saying "no screens found" and throws me back to console... any ideas?12:04
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SirKillalotShadowthrone, updatedb won't do that what you want12:04
PulsatingPenguinbbrazil, yes, my first thought was that my NTFS partition was corrupted (I dualboot WinXP and Ubuntu) - I did a chkdsk /r on my NTFS partition, but nothing12:04
x80I got my modem driver installed successfully, when I try to use KPPP, it says "modem is ready", then "initializing modem" then the whole program disappears without a trace of an error message.12:04
immeCould anyone tell me if there is a way to connect to the windows network behind my gatewayrouter?12:04
SirKillalotShadowthrone, try "locate eterm"12:04
PulsatingPenguinI would fsck the EXt3 one, but I cant get onto it12:04
x80Can anyone help?12:04
x80Imme: samba.12:05
SirKillalotx80, try ppoeconf or something, a command line tool12:05
x80Do i have to type out all the stinky modem strings?12:05
ShadowthroneSirKillalot: righto, lots of stuff in /var/lib and /usr/share/doc/12:05
nbx909|linuxhello does anyobdy know if there is a how to install firefox 2.0 on dapper?12:05
c0ldfusi0nI installed it on my laptop fine though =/12:05
SirKillalotx80, what kind of modem?12:05
ryanakcain top, "Cpu(s): 16.5%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 78.9%id,  2.3%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st", what does '%id' represent? %idle?12:05
nbx909|linuxlike the one for 1.512:06
x80The driver is already installed.12:06
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cafuegoryanakca: yes12:06
nbx909|linuxubotu, firefox12:06
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:06
Lubixhello what is that name of the package that includes to header libraries for building C programs!?!?!12:06
x80I ran a "query modem" it returned success.12:06
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nbx909|linuxubotu, firefox 212:06
immex80: I did samba, also opened prts 137-139 tcp and udp, but it still doesn't work, what am I missing?12:06
nbx909|linuxubotu, firefox 2.012:06
daskreechcan I add more desktops?12:06
daskreechlike 6?12:06
cafuegodaskreech: yes12:06
PierreLubix: pkgname-dev12:06
SirKillalotShadowthrone, did you install it via apt-get?12:06
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daskreechcafuego: where?12:06
nbx909|linuxLubix, linux-kernel-headers12:06
ryanakcacafuego: kk, ty12:06
cafuegodaskreech: right click the desktop switcher12:07
SirKillalotShadowthrone, are you sure that it is usable without enlightenment?12:07
ShadowthroneSirKillalot: yes, and when that didn't work I used Synaptic.12:07
x80To view shared files.12:07
daskreechcafuego: Right Duh :)12:07
cpk2imme: did you configure samba?12:07
daskreechcafuego: Thanks12:07
SirKillalotShadowthrone, there is no difference between synaptic and apt-get12:07
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ShadowthroneSirKillalot: yeah that's what I figured.12:07
immecpk2: Not that I recall where do I do that?12:07
SirKillalotShadowthrone, do you really need eterm?12:07
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SirKillalotI mean there is aterm, xterm, gnome-terminal (what I prefer most)12:07
ricaneliteHello all12:07
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ShadowthroneSirKillalot: I don't need it, no, but it ought to work and isn't.12:08
c0ldfusi0nAnyone can help with my "no screens found" issue?12:08
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SirKillalotc0ldfusi0n, no12:08
ricaneliteHow can I change my screen resoluton because i know for sure my monitor could display 1280x102412:08
c0ldfusi0nHow come? =/12:08
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:09
Dr_willisc0ldfusi0n,  that means the X config is messed up some how..12:09
immex80: internal ip works, but I cannot get behind my gateway.12:09
Dr_willisc0ldfusi0n,  use what jbmigel  said12:09
cpk2imme: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 that post should tell you everything you need12:09
SirKillalotricanelite, set it up in the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file12:09
c0ldfusi0nI would jbmigel, but i'm *trying* to install Ubuntu, i get that error straight after booting on the CD12:09
chuckypricanelite, or you could dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:09
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c0ldfusi0nUbuntu isn't even installed yet, nor configured properly. I just thought the install CD would, i don't know, install it?12:09
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n that is interesting... do you have a special monitor setup or whack job graphics card?12:09
c0ldfusi0nNope, i have a NEC E700 CRT monitor and an ATI X80012:10
immethanks cpk2.12:10
LubixPierre: i cannot find that package12:10
c0ldfusi0nIt detects the monitor fine in xorg.conf, it's there - but for some reason X won't start and tells me no screens found12:10
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PulsatingPenguinHey, can anyone give any further insights into my "buffer i/o error on dm-1, logical block" error?12:10
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n that doesnt sound to special12:10
c0ldfusi0nGreat, i hate to be special.12:11
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spdfc0ldfusi0n, You've installed the fglrx drivers?12:11
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c0ldfusi0nI didn't install anything, i boot on the CD and i get that error12:11
ricanelitecan someone tell me how can I change my screen resolution in Gnome because I know for sure my monitor can display 1280x1024 because it is only reading 1024x76812:11
c0ldfusi0nI want to install! But i can't.12:11
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jbmigelc0ldfusi0n can you change your driver to VESA and try to startx please12:11
ricanelitecan someone please help me out?12:11
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PulsatingPenguinricanelite, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file12:12
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PulsatingPenguinit has a list of resoloutions inside12:12
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:12
ricanelitewhere i do that12:12
PulsatingPenguinadd the one you want12:12
ZeNI guess you are done with me spdf?12:12
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ricaneliteim new to linux12:12
c0ldfusi0nLet me reboot and try that, jbmigel, i'm pretty sure i've tried it. But i'll let you know in a few.12:12
PulsatingPenguinopen text editor12:12
spdfZeN, I can't really think of a way to get you going to be honest..12:12
MetaMorfoziS!resolution > ricanelite12:12
PulsatingPenguinno dont actually12:12
spdfZeN, I can only find old world stuff on google12:12
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jbmigelc0ldfusi0n also if you have an onboard video you might try using that till your installed?12:13
PulsatingPenguinricanelite, opena terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:13
c0ldfusi0nWell i think it should work.. i mean i get the Ubuntu "loading screen", i can access the console fine, it's just X that won't start because of that12:13
ZeNalright, thanks anyway.12:13
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Lubixplease help me!! i cant compile programs in C!!!!12:13
jbmigelLubix sudo apt-get install build-essential12:14
PierreLubix: don't be loud, it does hel.12:14
x80Gcc program.c.12:14
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c0ldfusi0nAlright, i'll be right back after i try those things.12:14
ragLubix: Pierre say you12:14
ricaneliteis there a graphical setup??12:14
x80Testing wvdial now...12:14
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n good luck12:14
PierreLubix: you need a) build-essential and then the development package of the library you use, for example libxml-dev if you need libxml development files12:14
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PulsatingPenguinricanelite, no, not for changing the list of resoloutions12:15
ricaneliteI remember someone telling me that there is a graphical one that I think runs in the terminal12:15
cafuegoEither "if you can't figure it out, uou probasbly weren't meant to" or "libc6-dev"12:15
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Lubixpierre: i cannot find build essenetials12:15
PulsatingPenguinyou can go to desktop> Preferences > screen resoloution, but if the one you want is not there then edit the xorg.conf12:15
ricanelitealright i have the file open, how can i enter the resolutions?12:15
PulsatingPenguinfind where it says "modes"12:15
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PulsatingPenguinor "display modes"12:15
cafuegoLubix: 'build-essential' is what he said.12:15
ragLubix: just build-essential12:15
jbmigeldoes the framebuffer run through X server? I would like dual CONSOLE monitors if its possible12:16
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cafuegoCreative spelling is not recommended.12:16
ricaneliteModes"1024x768" "960x960"12:16
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Lubixits not found12:16
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ragLubix: your reposotory...12:16
PulsatingPenguinricanelite, yes12:16
PulsatingPenguinadd the one you want12:16
ricanelitebut there is about a couple of more lines that says that12:16
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cafuegobuild-essential is in main12:16
ragsomebody with benq joybook700012:16
leakd n812:16
ricanelitedo i enter the resolutions i want on each line?12:16
PulsatingPenguinyes add the one you want to all of them12:16
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PulsatingPenguinyou do12:16
PulsatingPenguinon all the modes12:16
Lubixrag: what about it12:17
PulsatingPenguinthey are all for different color depths12:17
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Lubixrag: i have them all activated12:17
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sandy16how can i make my mail command work in ubutnu? when i use it its saying no such command and when i tryto apt-get it its saying no such pacakage.12:17
rbilnicanelite, change to Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "960x960"  for the modelines that match default color depth you have chosen to use12:17
cafuegosandy16: it's in 'mailx' (you'll probably want postfix too.12:17
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ragLubix: projector? i need config projector with vga output12:18
cafuego "960x960" ?12:18
cafuegoLubix: Check for typos. it's in there.12:18
Lubixrag: whats the repo that has it12:18
ragdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main12:18
ragdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main12:18
sidny4why do I get Class or interface JAVA.util.Scanner not found in import. when I use gcj?12:18
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sandy16cafuego, thanks alot dude12:19
ragLubix: look this12:19
cafuegosandy16: np12:19
PulsatingPenguincan anyone help me with my error?  "Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block xxxxx"?12:19
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ragLubix: after you must run apt-get update12:19
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jbmigelPulsatingPenguin can you boot from cd and mount that drive?12:19
ragLubix: and then aptitude install build-essential12:19
ricaneliteNow the thing is when I'm typing in the resolution the others are moving into the other lines12:20
ricaneliteis that okay?12:20
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PulsatingPenguinjbmigel, I have no live CD but I could burn one12:20
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MoosebuntuHelp: I just formatted my drive using ext3, and I can't write to it.  Do I have to change permissions before I use it?  If so, how do I do this?12:20
PulsatingPenguinI suppose I could burn one, boot into it, and fsck the drive12:20
rbilricanelite, yes, just wrapping12:20
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jbmigelPulsatingPenguin unless you have another drive around with some linux on it12:20
ragLubix: insert my lines above just on your /etc/apt/sources.list file12:20
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sandy16cafuego, hey can you tell me whats this postfix configuration is?12:21
PulsatingPenguinno, unfortunately I dont12:21
Lubixdoes it matter if i have edgy running12:21
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dawzhi guys12:21
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cafuegosandy16: postfix is the smtp mail server; `mail' needs it to actually send mail out.12:21
jbmigelPulsatingPenguin ya then id make a boot disk12:21
ricaneliteNow do i have to restart my computer when im done?12:21
Spaceraverlinuxwierd... nautilus keeps dying on me12:22
PulsatingPenguinbut it just started happening today, I have been running Dapper for a few months...I dont know what could have caused it12:22
dawzcan someone help me with a little question : how can i remove programs from sessions window ?12:22
rbilMoosebuntu, check fstab and make sure that is setup properly now that you've changed format. And then sudo mount -a to reload fstab12:22
QuashI've getting a black screen of death with I hit the Live Desktop stage, loading Edgy 6.10 RC.  Can anyone help?  I've also just filed a bug report with more specific details.  But, I'd like to try to work through the bug some more to give the Ubuntu Bug team more details.12:22
dawzthey seem to be stuck in the list12:22
PulsatingPenguinricanelite, no just hit CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X12:22
jbmigelPulsatingPenguin could be a smart error, or hardware failure who knows... mount the drive and it might go away12:22
Moosebunturbil> thank you so much!12:22
Lubixrag: are your sure there isnt another name for it12:23
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Nophiqdawz: click on the arrow in the panel12:23
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Moosebunturbil> bash: fstab: command not found12:23
fooIs there anyway to restart X via cli?12:23
Nophiqdawz: and follow the remove track12:23
Riggzykillall X?  :p12:23
dawzNophiq: wich arrow ?12:23
ragLubix: what name?12:23
rbilsudo gedit /etc/fstab12:23
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Moosebuntuah! it's a file.  Thanks12:23
PulsatingPenguinjbmigel, ok, thanks.  I will try burning a liveCD and booting from that...then removing the option to mount my windows partition at boot, in case that is it, I will also fsck the drive :)12:23
Lubixrag: i cannot find it12:24
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rbilMoosebuntu, first make a backup of fstab ....12:24
Nophiqdawz: where tou can choose the desktop, and where is the time12:24
hejsaI got a problem with my ati xorg driver, it looks like ive fucked it up. It has been working fine up till now, but i fucked after trying to optimize my xgl-beryl thingie. now i cant install the ati driver, im stuck with the mesa driver. fglrxinfo, modprobe fglrx and xorg.conf at http://pastebin.sekati.com/?id=fglrxinfoxorgconf@2f5bb-d5edf5b4-t . What do i do {12:24
rntkrfoo: restarting gdm works, if you are using gnome12:24
rbilsudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.back12:24
ragLubix: just we say you build-essential12:24
Nophiqdawz: you can find also some arrows12:24
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Nophiqdawz: I think so12:24
QuashCan anyone help with what I think me be a video driver issue with Edgy, which prevents the loading of the Live Desktop?12:24
jbmigelPulsatingPenguin you might want to add, mounting the drive and backin up your data in there somewhere12:24
dawzNophiq: i can't remove a program. I can't click on remove or edit12:24
ragLubix: put attention without 's'12:24
Lubixrag: there is  not a package  called build-essentials12:24
ragLubix: lubix.....12:25
BirdAre their any free programs that will let me play game windows games on ubuntu ?12:25
immecpk2: That was ot the thing I was looking for. Good HOWTO anyway.12:25
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ragLubix: build-essential without 's'12:25
vorboteLubix: build-essentia.12:25
Lubixok im sorry12:25
vorboteLubix: build-essential, pardon me12:25
PulsatingPenguinjbmigel, ok, I will.  Thanks :)12:25
Lubixi found it12:25
SpaceraverlinuxBird, use wine12:25
cpk2imme: that wasnt what you needed?12:25
ragLubix: please put more attentio12:25
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Lubixrag: do i hafta do anything after its installed or will gcc now work correctly12:26
Nophiqdawz: probably I don't understand what is the session windows, is the men start?12:26
jbmigelLubix you write c code?12:26
hejsaLubix, you can use apt-cache search if you are unsure of the name12:26
Lubixi still have the same problem12:26
immecpk2: No, this is only for this side of the gateway, I want to acces the part on the other side of the gateway.12:26
Lubixjbmigel: i am tring12:26
goosehow does one use a movie as a screensaver    with gnome-screensaver ?12:26
dawzNophiq: System > Preferences > Sessions12:26
dawzNophiq: gnome session management12:26
ragLubix: you try compile12:26
Moosebunturbil> fstab doesn't contain the second hard drive that I just added.  Do I need to add it?12:27
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ragLubix: repeat make12:27
cpk2imme: you mean you want samba on wan & lan?12:27
jbmigelLubix thats awesome man good luck! you will probably need to open a new command after build-essential install12:27
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hejsaAnyone who is able to and willing to help me with my ati driver problem ?12:27
immecpk2: yep12:27
hobbesmasteri'm getting extremely poor video performance on my laptop, I'm trying to use the radeon open source driver on a thinkpad t41, (radeon 9000 mobile.... M9, R250) glxinfo output is here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28016/  it seems that its using mesa3d?  is that right?12:27
Nophiqdawz: sorry i use KDE (I know that ubuntu use only gnome-session, but now I am in KDE)12:27
cpk2imme: I think you could just set up an apache server for that...?12:28
dawzNophiq: ok, I understand you can't help me ;-)12:28
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hejsahobbesmaster, you con use the fglrx driver i think12:28
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immecpk2: but then I cannot acces the other computers inside the windows network right?12:28
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immecpk2: they can then only access me.12:28
Spaceraverlinux!seen Hobbsee12:28
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ubotuI last saw Hobbsee (n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee) 7h 54m 32s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection12:28
Lubixrag: let me show you what my problem is12:28
cpk2true, but I am talking for the wan12:28
immecpk2: I already got apache up and running, that's the first thing.12:28
cpk2for lan samba shouldnt be a problem12:29
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ragLubix: show me12:29
Lubixok i got a pm open with you12:29
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Lubixlet me put it there > rag12:29
ragLubix: ill try it12:29
QuashCan I get any suggestions on a good video card to buy for Edgy, AIGXL/Beryl.  I can give you my system specs.12:29
ragLubix: what?12:29
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YoussefAssadcan anyone recommend a nice (smallish and preferably unicode) font for a terminal?12:29
Lubixrag: error message in pm12:30
hikenbootplease...is there noone who knows anything about the nvida-glx drivers...I am unable to get direct rendering: yes when logged in as any user thru gdm but can as root startx and direct rendering works...I added the user to the root user group but it still doesnt work...any ideas at all?12:30
ragLubix: pm ? whats?12:30
Moosebunturbil> fstab doesn't contain the second hard drive that I just added.  Do I need to add it?12:30
JfrenchDoes Cedega Still have its free 14 day trial? I want to try it after failing with wine. Trasngaming doesnt make it all to easy to find the free trial on their site.12:30
YoussefAssad1/j #aterm12:30
Lubixrag:rivate message12:30
hobbesmasterhejsa: but I want to use the free one, from what I understand it works better with power management on this laptop12:30
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QuashI think my current video card won't be properly supported by Edgy.  It's an ATI 9200 SE.12:30
ragLubix: ok12:30
immecpk2: Well you see, it's like this, I'm behind a network that is a lousy ISP(comes with the renting of my room), when I plug into my wallsocket immediately I _can_ access the windows network(I believe), but when I connect through my gateway-router I cannot anymore.12:30
TheLancehey can someone tell me how to install a GDM screen?12:30
TheLanceGDM theme*12:30
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rbilMoosebuntu, yes you'll need to add it. you'll need to know the /dev/* it is and have a directory in your file system to mount it into12:31
Lubixrag: dev.c:1:20: error:  stdio.h: No such file or directory12:31
Lubixdev.c:3: error: ::main must return int12:31
Lubixdev.c: In function int main():12:31
Lubixdev.c:5: error: printf was not declared in this scope12:31
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jbmigelhobbesmaster i find the free driver ati support more than adequate. are you sure it is on? ATI is your driver?12:31
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ragLubix: but , its better for you, type here because other users can help you12:31
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rbilMoosebuntu to find out what /dev it is, you can do this ...  sudo fdisk -l   (that's an ell)12:31
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Lubixrag: there it is12:31
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variantcompengi: in what way?12:31
Lubixrag: just a simple hello world type program12:32
Moosebuntufdisk, on linux? wow12:32
hejsahobbesmaster, they got a guide on ubuntuguide.org i think12:32
ragLubix: on c?12:32
Moosebunturbil> thank you for your help12:32
spdfhikenboot, check your xorg.conf, does it have a Section "DRI" in there? Likely at the bottom..12:32
rbilMoosebuntu, create a mount point somewhere in your file system and then after you've got both figured out you can add drive to fstab12:32
JfrenchDoes Cedega Still have its free 14 day trial? I want to try it after failing with wine. Trasngaming doesnt make it all to easy to find the free trial on their site.12:32
variantcompengi: if you want greater than is in ubuntu repos you have to either find a custom debian/ubuntu deb or download hte installer from nvidia12:32
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BirdI used sudo apt-get install wine     to install wine but how do I use it and locate it now?12:32
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ragLubix: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`12:32
c0ldfusi0nAlright jbmigel, that didn't work at all12:32
fg32what is xubuntu?12:33
ragLubix: your problems are headers not found, i think it12:33
hobbesmasterjbmigel: yes, I'll paste in xorg.conf just to be sure (its something of a mess): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28017/12:33
immecpk2: So it's not just about opening ports, now is it?12:33
c0ldfusi0nThe onboard video did nothing at all, and changing ati driver for vesa didn't do anything either12:33
Lubixrag: where are the headers?12:33
Comrade_Sfg32: ubuntu with the XFCE window manager12:33
spdfBird, wine <Executable>, You'll probably want to run winecfg first (from the terminal)12:33
ragfg32, ubuntu with xfce desktop? for old machines :)12:33
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fg32ok, so minimal desktop apps and such?12:33
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Vgehi, how do i remove ubuntu desctop from my xubuntu installation?12:33
cpk2imme: i dont think so12:34
Lubixrag: will i have the headers now12:34
ragLubix: just run : aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`12:34
ragLubix: ok compile again12:34
variantfg32: xfce is not _for_ old machines, it just happens to run very well on them as it is well programmed12:34
immecpk2: thanks for your time anyway.12:34
Lubixg++ or gcc?12:34
Moosebunturgil> it is '/dev/hdb1'.  How do I create a mount point?  Sorry, I'm new at this. :(12:34
seth_archIf I install 6.10-rc sould I be able to update to 6.10 smouthly when it comes?12:34
c0ldfusi0nAlright anyone can tell me where to download Ubuntu DVDs and not that 700mb thing? Whatever's different might work...12:34
variantseth_arch: yes12:34
Lubixrag: still the same stuff12:34
seth_archvariant: Thanks you12:34
seth_archlol no s12:34
fg32so like P2 and 128mb of ram...12:34
variantfg32: yeah12:35
rbilMoosebuntu, where do you want to see that new hard drive within your file system?12:35
variantfg32: it would run nice on that12:35
fg32dang, should have used that for my buddies laptop...12:35
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ragfg32, variant, old machines12:35
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n if your going that route id get the server install disk... then add your gui later12:35
Lubixrag: the files where installed still wont compile12:35
variantfg32: just be sure to use the xfce4.4 beta, it is streets ahead of the older versiions12:35
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cpk2imme: i have a feeling its because connecting to the wall socket you are on 192.168.1.xxx network then on router you change to the routers own network12:35
c0ldfusi0njbmigel: they're all single-cds setups?12:35
rbilMoosebuntu, what format does it have? what size drive?12:35
variantrag: I use it on new machines too because it is so well written12:35
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n yes it is single cd but it doesnt install xorg12:36
ragvariant, too12:36
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c0ldfusi0nok i can just apt-get install xorg; startx afterwards?12:36
danielmhmm, am i correct in assuming that installing ruby-gnome2 will allow me to run the sample programs on ruby-gnome2's website? because they don't. even hello world doesn't.12:36
Moosebunturbil> \home\adam somewhere I think12:36
Lubixrag: i really want to start learning C12:36
danielmi did see a problem with it a while ago in the archives12:36
BirdI just did wine cfg and it said it made it in /home/kyle/.wine how do I find it now I tried to find it by going to home folder and looking but couldnt find it12:36
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danielmbut alexandria runs fine12:36
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n yes ubuntu-desktop is the package... your sure you dont have some weird usb thing plugged into your keyboard/monitor maybe?12:36
Moosebunturbil> ext3... 160GB12:36
rbilMoosebuntu, what format is that drive?12:36
Comrade_SBird: hit ctrl-h in your home folder12:36
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spdfBird, When a folder is preceeded by a . it hides it..12:37
rbilok, hold on ...12:37
Moosebunturbil> ext312:37
Comrade_SBird, ctrl-h shows all hidden files12:37
c0ldfusi0nWell as far as i can see, there's the power that's in the power, and the video adapter that's in my ATI card, nothing else in between12:37
sidny4how do I install sun's JVM?12:37
ragLubix: ok look google --> and search just: "getting started C" or "getting started gcc"12:37
fg32uses automatix212:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:37
ragLubix, sorry but i need resolve other problems for me12:37
ragLubix: now12:37
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n it would be nice to know what is different about your hardware that xorg cant seem to recognize12:38
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Lubixrag:  do you program in c?12:38
ragLubix: sometimes12:38
rbilMoosebuntu in fstab add line:   /dev/hdb1     /home/adam/160GB           ext3       defaults  0 012:38
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immecpk2: Could be only the other way around, on the wall socket I connect to 145.116.x(most of the time 4).x and router is 192.168.1.x12:38
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rbilMoosebuntu, in your home directory create new dir called: 160GB12:38
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Lubixrag: do i hafta download libraries now or something?12:39
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fester420hey is anyone runing 64bit ubuntu12:39
rbilMoosebuntu, after you've done those 2 things, do ...12:39
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BirdIs it possible to use wine to install games from CDs like Diablo 2 or is their another program that you use for that?12:39
soundrayfester420: yes12:39
immecpk2: Should I then let my gateway-router give me 145.116.x.x addresses?12:39
rbilMoosebuntu: sudo mount -a12:39
MoosebuntuIs this tab delimited?12:39
ragLubix, what is hafta?12:39
Comrade_SBird: yes12:39
cpk2imme: 192.168.1 was just an arbitrary number12:39
rbilor spaces12:39
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fester420soundray, i have a probem its only reading half of my processor speed12:39
Lubixrag: have to12:39
c0ldfusi0nYeah i'd like it to work too... the only thing that i can see might be different is i'm trying to install the amd64 version... I boot on the CD, select install, it tries to load up X then gives me a text message asking me if i want to view the X log (twice) then reverts to console. If i edit the xorg.conf and replace ati with vesa then startx, it makes me computer reboot.12:39
c0ldfusi0nIs that of any help?12:39
timGaah, i cant install the fglrx ati driver thingie12:40
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rbilMoosebuntu, if all goes as planned when you go to ~/150GB you'll be accessing your new drive12:40
soundrayfester420: that's normal. If you throw a CPU-intensive task at it, it'll double.12:40
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jbmigelc0ldfusi0n well it doesnt help but it sure sounds ugly :)12:40
fester420oh really12:40
c0ldfusi0nYeah =/12:40
immecpk2: yeah I already thought that, I'm just babbling the most specific I can, I'd really like for it to work...12:40
ragLubix: say me how do you compile it12:40
fester420thats pretty cheezy12:40
soundrayfester420: the program responsible for this behavior is called powernowd12:40
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fester420can i remove it12:40
BirdHow can I download codecs to play movie files like mp4s and other common ones?12:40
Lubixrag: gcc <filename>12:41
Lubixrag: do i need to add something more?12:41
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hejsaBird, look at ubuntuguide.org there is a guide for that12:41
c0ldfusi0nI also tried the "Safe graphics mode" Ubuntu offers at the startup screen, but it does the exact same thing12:41
Comrade_S!w32codecs > Bird12:41
jbmigelLubix i think you would also need an output like gcc helloworld.c helloworld12:41
Moosebunturbil> I can get to the folder \home\adam\160GB, however I still can't write to the drive. :(12:42
cafuegoLubix: On Linux, of the file is called 'test.c', you can run 'make test' and the rest is automagic.12:42
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n have you tried other boot disks on that hardware? like is ubuntu the first one to fail?12:42
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Lubixjbmigel: i get error messages that it cannot find the headers12:42
rbilMoosebuntu, is /home/adam your home directory?12:42
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immecpk2: do you think it has any change of succeeding if I let my gateway-router pass out 145.116.x.x addresses ?12:43
ragLubix: do you install linux-headers?12:43
Lubixcafuego: i do not have test.c on my compuer12:43
c0ldfusi0nWell i've installed Windows successfully, and also Ubuntu before (dual boot), i've since removed Ubuntu (it was a while ago, must've been a different build) but i started using it at work today and i'd like to have it back...12:43
ragLubix: and put me error again12:43
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Lubixrag: yes i installed taht package you asked me to12:43
cpk2imme: i suppose it wont hurt to try =P12:43
Moosebunturbil> I believe so, yes.12:43
jbmigelLubix what are you importing in your .c file?12:43
Lubixrag: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`12:43
Moosebunturbil> yes, it is12:43
Lubixrag:$ gcc dev.c12:43
Lubixdev.c:1:20: error:  stdio.h: No such file or directory12:43
Lubixdev.c: In function main:12:43
Lubixdev.c:5: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf12:43
Lubixdev.c:4: warning: return type of main is not int12:43
Lubixjbmigel: what do you mean?12:44
c0ldfusi0nActually i might still have that old Ubuntu cd, brb12:44
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cafuegoLubix: You're missing 'libc6-dev' or you're not importing correctly.12:44
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immecpk2: I'll try that tommorow then, it's really pas bed-time here. :D12:44
ragLubix: do you developer sometime?12:44
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Lubixrag: only in vstudio12:44
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immecpk2: Again thanks for your help and time, you make me feel welcome in the world of ubuntu. ;)12:45
Lubixcafuego: where do i get the libraries?12:45
phaedrus_how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it?12:45
shiraDoes the server install cd come with a partitioner or does it automatically wipe the drive?12:45
phaedrus_sudo chmod -R 0777 /dev/sdb2?12:45
cafuegoLubix: 'sudo apt-get install libc6-dev'12:45
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jbmigelLubix can you look in /usr/include to make sure stdio.h is there?12:45
rbilMoosebuntu:   sudo chmod 777 /home/adam/160GB12:45
cafuegophaedrus_: NO!12:45
ragLubix: your problem not is of gcc, but... your code12:45
c0ldfusi0nOk well it seems like i don't have it anymore12:45
phaedrus_hehe  ok12:45
Comrade_Sshira: I am pretty sure it does12:45
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docmurgood day all12:45
ragLubix: your code, your types , your declarations...12:46
c0ldfusi0nQuestion therefore is: Should i try installing the current version, but for amd64 servers OR should i try to find a previous amd64 desktop version?12:46
Moosebunturbil> that worked!!12:46
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Lubixrag: how is that12:46
MoosebuntuThank you!!!!!12:46
docmurI need some help finding a forum post on ubuntulinux12:46
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:46
fg32has nayone tried getting ubuntu to install on a HP iPaq?12:46
ragLubix: Lubix: your code12:46
rbilMoosebuntu, :-) all working now?12:46
ragLubix: your code is in error12:46
ragLubix: i dont know12:46
Comrade_Sdocmur: search the forums using their search box or use google12:46
Moosebunturbil> Is there a primer on adding drives like this?  Yes it works!!!  Much appreciated sir!12:46
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docmurI tried12:46
phaedrus_how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it?12:46
rbilMoosebuntu, memory :-)12:46
Lubixrag:#include < stdio.h>12:46
Lubixvoid main()12:46
Lubix    printf("\nHello World\n");12:46
shiraComrade_S: that's what i thought.. what's the easiest way of getting a LAMP setup on the desktop then?12:46
docmurjust wondering if anyone has seen the post on how to speed up dapper12:46
rbilMoosebuntu, make notes12:46
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Moosebunturbil> good deal, I'll do this!12:47
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Moosebuntuthanks again!12:47
rbilno prob12:47
rbilbye, gotta run12:47
Comrade_Sdocmur : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949112:47
Lubixcafuego: what other libraries might i need12:47
stattersI got a 80GB hard drive I formatted 20GB and installed  Ubuntu, I then installed qtparted to format remaining space into Fat but its not happening? I assumed I could format a new partition from desktop?12:47
ragLubix: ok find / -name stdio.h12:47
Comrade_Sdocmur: dude, next time google, I just found htat out using google12:47
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c0ldfusi0njbmigel: Should i try installing the current version, but for amd64 servers OR should i try to find a previous amd64 desktop version?12:47
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soundraydocmur: do you mean http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189192 ?12:48
docmurwhat did you search12:48
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ragLubix: i am code c on ubuntu, i dont know if you must configure any something12:48
jbmigelc0ldfusi0n id use the current version for server. then add ubuntu-desktop12:48
soundraydocmur 'ubuntu dapper speed'12:48
Lubixwhere are the header files stored?12:48
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docmuroh I search speeding up ubuntu12:48
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ragLubix: look ubuntuformus.org --> and search: gcc or how to gcc, language c12:49
ragLubix: sorry, i cant help you more, because i must resolve critical problems for me12:49
jbmigelLubix there is a very nice intro to C programming on the howstuffworks website.12:49
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Lubixjbmigel: i know all this i just cannot figure out how to compile it12:50
soundrayLubix: have you installed the package build-essential ?12:50
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AlukurdAnyone who has the "USB PnP sound device" ? anyway I have the same problems like those guys here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265040&highlight=VSTA . But the fix that jackuess posted, dont get where I need to put it :/12:50
Lubixsoundray: yes12:50
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jbmigelLubix can you pastebin your code12:50
stattersShould I be able to to create a partition on remaining free space of my hard drive with qtparted?12:50
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soundrayLubix: good, alway worth checkin ;)12:50
Lubixjbmigel: what do you mean?12:50
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:50
BirdWhat command would I use to install a game from a cd with wine?12:50
sontekHey, i'm in VI in editmode and my arrow keys output letters.  Left=D, Down=B,Right=C, Up=A12:51
sontekwhat causes that?12:51
ferret0567Does putting the boot flag on the /boot partion of hdb (that would be hdb1), mess up Windows XP or its bootloader installed w/ ntfs, on the whole first HD, when it's ntfs partiton also has a boot flag?12:51
soundraystatters: not necessarily. If you have four primary partitions already, it will refuse12:51
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stattersnope only got / and /swap12:51
siloxis there any formatting tool to format my Sandisk m240 1 GB Mp3 player?12:51
rambo3sontek, press  i first ?12:51
sontekrambo3: Thats what edit mode is12:51
soundraystatters: what are the device names?12:52
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Lubixjbmigel: stdio.h is in my usr/include directory12:52
stattershda hda112:52
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ferret0567I will make sure it is 3 partitons on the second drive, 2 primary and 1 logical "container" partition12:52
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soundraysilox: if it works as a mass storage device, you can use mkdosfs12:53
jbmigelLubix "gcc yourcode.c -o youexe"12:53
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jbmigelLubix note the -o for output12:53
ferret0567Will that work and can I reverse my boot flag change on the second HD?12:53
soundraystatters: what are the device names of the partitions?12:53
siloxsondray okay yes it does thx12:53
ferret0567I have been using Linux awhile but...I have never done dual-boot before...12:53
soundraysilox: that's in package dosfstools btw12:53
Lubixjbmigel it will not compile12:53
jbmigelLubix can you pastebin your code?12:54
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jbmigel!paste > Lubix12:54
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siloxsoundray i already have that package ^^12:54
statterspartition 1 and swap partition /dev/hda and /dev/hda112:54
Lubixjbmigel #include < stdio.h>12:54
Lubixvoid main()12:54
Lubix    printf("\nHello World\n");12:54
ferret0567And when I put GRUB in the mbr of the second HD (I must protect WIndblows), GRUB refuses to boot Ubuntu12:54
siloxsoundray how do i do this then :P12:54
bkudriai have a logitech mx610 (http://tinyurl.com/d5zbn) and everything works except the im button (but mail, strangely, does work, sending xf86mail to xev) and side scrolling...how do i make it work?12:54
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:54
cafuegoLubix: I note < stdio.h> and not <stdio.h> in your paste.12:54
Flannelferret0567: why not just put grub on the first hd?12:54
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soundraystatters: /dev/hda is not a partition device name. It's the name of the block device (whole disk)12:55
psycodeQ: how can find out which process is using a resource? this case it's a cdrom i can't unmount probly' since some process is viewing its contents.12:55
Lubixjbmigel: it says stdio.h not found12:55
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ferret0567Because I do not want to go through the hassle of fixing the mbr of XP12:55
soundraystatters: you probably have to create an extended partition12:55
bkudriapsycode: lsof12:55
statterssoundray: sry I have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda212:55
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bkudriapsycode: for list open files12:55
Flannelferret0567: I don't understand.  You don't need to fix the mbr unless you remove grub later12:55
Lubixcafuego: you fix the first problem i got 2 more still though12:56
statterscan I format an extended partition Fat?12:56
phaedrus_how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it not just root?12:56
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cafuegoLubix: Creative spelling is your enemy. That space between < and s shouldn't be there.12:56
psycodebkudria, any useful flags for this task?12:56
Lubixcafuego: i know you did it12:56
Lubixcafuego: #include < stdio.h>12:56
Lubixvoid main()12:56
Lubix    printf("\nHello World\n");12:56
cafuegoLubix: Your *actual* error is ' stdio.h: No such file or directory'12:57
soundraysilox: you can find out for yourself with 'man mkdosfs'. Most of the time, 'sudo mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sda1' is appropriate. But make sure you know what you're doing -- don't just blindly take it from me.12:57
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ferret0567I bet I will...GRUB would not boot Ubuntu on a computer with no Windows on a err...reinstall of Ubuntu12:57
psycodeLubix, ahhhhhhh main should return an int!12:57
bkudriapsycode: i don't think so, i always do |grep <device>12:57
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soundraystatters: no, the extended partition has no filesystem of its own. It's a container for logical partitions.12:57
cafuegopsycode: No, he has a space where he shouldn't have one.12:57
jbmigelLubix can you change < stdio.h> to <stdio.g>12:57
jbmigelLubix can you change < stdio.h> to <stdio.h> lol12:57
psycodecafuego, still...12:57
Flannelferret0567: grub can boot windows and ubuntu fine.12:57
cafuegopsycode: Yeah, bad, but not an error ;-)12:58
psycodecafuego, well i'm not sure about c, i just know its not valid cpp :P12:58
Lubixi get this error: #include < stdio.h>12:58
Lubixvoid main()12:58
Lubix    printf("\nHello World\n");12:58
siloxsoundray cant find sda1 :/12:58
cafuegopsycode: gcc doesn't mind it12:58
Lubixdev.c:4: warning: return type of main is not int12:58
cafuegoLubix: STOP APSTING12:58
jbmigelLubix can you change < stdio.h> to <stdio.h>  and it will work geez12:58
FunnyLookinHatLubix, Please stop pasting that over and over again.12:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:58
soundraysilox: didn't I ask you *not* to copy my code?12:58
ferret0567But it failed with an error and refused to boot Ubuntu Linux two times on that Windows XP computer (never had Linux on it before) and once on mine (had Windows, erased it)12:59
psycodeLubix, change void main to int main, and return 0;12:59
cafuegoLubix: Warnings are not errors and can (usually) be safely ignored.12:59
jbmigelpsycode that is only a warning12:59
soundraysilox: this could have wrecked your system12:59
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bkudriai have a logitech mx610 (http://tinyurl.com/d5zbn) and everything works except the im button (but mail, strangely, does work, sending xf86mail to xev) and side scrolling...how do i make it work?12:59
xplic1tLubix:  #include <stdio.h> int main(){ printf("Hello World!\n"); return 0; }12:59
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siloxsoundray i dont have a usb disk so i bearly think so :)12:59
psycodejbmigel, why do you all take side with the devil? >:)12:59
siloxsoundray should i whrite /media/sandisk then?12:59
LjLxplic1t: "return EXIT_SUCCESS;" even ;-P12:59
cafuegopsycode: I resent that12:59
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noldonhi i need help01:00
jbmigelpsycode heh, just trying to make it easy, if he makes it int he also has to return something01:00
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soundraysilox: sooner or later you're going to accidentally format your root partition if you're so careless.01:00
cafuegoxplic1t: They he's need <stdlib.h> too01:00
cafuegoand prolly <unistd.h> for good measure.01:00
noldoni just installed winxp and it removed my MGR01:00
ferret0567I want to know if I make the boot flag change I can reverse it later with no consequences01:00
noldonso lilo dont come up01:00
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ubotunoldon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:00
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soundraysilox: no, find out the proper device name by entering 'mount' and reading the output (find the line that contains '/media/sandisk' and take the device name from that)01:01
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Lubixjbmiguel: it compiles but where does the output actually end up01:01
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noldonubotu thanx01:02
LjLcafuego: why not     find /usr/include/ -printf "#include <%f>\n"   then :P01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
jbmigelLubix what did you call the output file/01:02
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Lubixi get helloworld but it is incased in tons of junk characters that cant open in gedit01:02
ferret0567How can I reinstall GRUB on the second HD either in the MBR or with a boot flag, a partition?01:02
cafuegoLjL: Just <*.h> will do01:02
psycodeahhh i can't eject my cdrom :(  -- is "lsof | grep cdrom" supposed to find the source of the problem?01:02
LjLcafuego: ah, CPP globs? didn't even know01:02
cafuegoLjL: But unbistd and stdlib you can't really ignore if you need the code to be portable eh01:02
cafuegoLjL: Nah, just mocking you ;-)01:02
danielmnm, turns out either the author kinda lied or the version in sources is old.01:03
jbmigelLubix wow man you really need to goto howstuffworks and go through the tutorial... this isnt a c classroom http://computer.howstuffworks.com/c.htm01:03
cafuegoLubix: it's an execitable, not a test file.01:03
ferret0567I heard in Ubuntu reinstalling the MBR is not a pleaserable experience01:03
soundraypsycode: look if /dev/cdrom is a soft link to a real device and grep for that instead01:03
Lubixcafuego: looks like i have a debug report01:03
Lubixoh i get it!01:03
LjLcafuego: well, stdlib i agree, but unistd isn't ANSI i believe :P01:03
Lubixi am so sorry01:03
idanimrod btw, did dapper had so much problems when it was released like the numbers of messages posted about edgy troubles? i can't remember that01:03
Lubixshoot me01:03
cafuegoLubix: ./helloworld01:03
Flannelferret0567: You must have heard wrong, it's pretty painless, installing either grub, or WBL01:04
Lubixyou people must have me01:04
psycodesoundray, i'm trying that, thx01:04
cafuegoLjL: it's not?01:04
LjLcafuego: i could be wrong... isn't it a POSIX include?01:04
Lynourenevermind, I found it.01:04
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cafuegoLjL: looks like it is, yes01:05
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ferret0567Well...I hope one of you people can direct me to a guide that tells you how to reinstall GRUB on the second HD01:05
LjLcafuego: well then it actually *impairs* portability in principle ;-)01:05
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ferret0567What is the recommended size for the /boot partition anyway?01:06
LjLferret0567: "man grub-install"01:06
jbmigel100mb is good01:06
cafuegoLjL: it facilitates migration to Linux, you mean? ;-)01:06
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deedubb__Hello. I have a question. I have auth.0 and auth.1.gz, and normally I would assume those come from logrotate.d but I can't find where it's configured to do those files. I want to know because I need to add another file01:06
Comrade_Sferret0567, try this :    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8081101:06
Lubixthank you all for your help01:06
Comrade_Sferret0567, or this :: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22361401:06
jbmigelgood luck Lubix!01:07
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Lubixsorry for being so dense01:07
LjLcafuego: that might be, but if you write a program that isn't *using* any of the POSIX functions, but only standard ANSI functions (like his hello world program), then including a non-ANSI header file will gratuitously make compilation fail on non-POSIX systems :)01:07
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jbmigelLubix its ok things are different here compared to vstudio01:07
cafuegoLjL: it facilitates migration to Linux, you mean? ;-)01:07
Lubixyes i want to learn it because i want to no whats going on behind the scenes you01:07
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jbmigelLubix C is a hard one to start with... you might look at python first01:08
LjLcafuego: not really, if just facilitates saying "bah, stupid program, i'll download something else. possibly just something proprietary and pirated that i won't have to compile" :-P01:08
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LjLcafuego: but, mind you, i *do* read the comp.lang.c newsgroup. that can probably explain a thing or two01:08
ferret0567Hmm...I don't want to make the /boot partition too big or small...64 MB should do it for quite a few (atleast 6 kernel upgrades) right?01:09
cafuegoLjL: Nah, surely *BSD users won't react like that <heh>01:09
Thehow do yo connect to news groups?01:09
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jbmigelferret0567 whats an extra couple megabytes? I bet you have a GB of swap you barely use01:09
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LjLcafuego: no, but they'll react badly at the fact that you seem to be implying their OS isn't POSIX-compiant :P01:09
deedubb__anyone know which service does auth.0 by default?01:10
Lubixjbmigel: i almost got the python book but ended up with "Programming in C"01:10
cafuegoferret0567: Unless you're using lvm or md or dm or somesuch, just don't bother with /boot.01:10
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cafuegoLjL: That's where you're compassionate and I'm a troll ;-)01:10
jbmigelLubix well you will be better off when your done that book, it will just take you a little longer to get going01:10
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LjLLubix: if the book you got tells you to type that "void main()" thing, then it's trash :P01:10
hydoskeeHi, I have a hardware raid set up, and ubuntu is seeing it as two drives - what should I be running fdisk on?01:11
ferret0567I have a 120 GB of HD space but...see the BIOS can only see a certain amount of the HD and I am using JFS for / and /home01:11
TheI am new to Ubuntu.  What program do you use to connect to news groups?01:11
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stattersin disk manager its asking for access path clicking help says no document found ? what is the access path and for a fat 32 drive used for storage where should I place it?01:11
cafuegoferret0567: Linux will happily ignore the bios anyway.01:11
LubixLjL; i havent gotten into the book yet i was just trying to set up the gcc01:11
LjLThe, i use Kontact, under my KDE. i suppose it'll be either Evolution or Thunderbird on your Gnome01:11
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ferret0567But this has to be GRUB compatible01:11
LjLLubix: alright. have you installed the "build-essential" package? you should get that to compile, rather than just gcc01:12
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cafuegoferret0567: Yes, no need fo a separate /boot - really :-)01:12
sureshothey all i am trying to pick out a linux distro .. what is the difference between fedora and ubuntu01:12
ferret0567Even for JFS in GRUB?01:12
cafuegoferret0567: On normal desktops I usually have / and swap or /, /home and swap.01:12
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LjLsureshot: ubuntu is a debian derivative, fedora is not. ubuntu uses the APT packaging system, fedora uses RPM. ubuntu is a linux distribution, and fedora is a different one.01:13
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soundraysureshot: with the current stable Ubuntu, you get 3 years support promise.01:13
ferret0567Well...I use it...01:13
Willhow can i change the deault load OS for GRUB?01:13
cafuegoit has a jfs_stage1_5 file, so i guess it ought to01:13
LjLWill: sure, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:13
Willi know01:14
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Willbut what do i edit :&01:14
deedubb__Can someone please help me here..... which daemon creates auth.log.0 by default? It is not logrotate01:14
sureshotso one does not give you anything more than the other except the support promise of coruse01:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:14
LjLWill: oh, i missed the "how".  type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst", and find the line that says "default X", and choose the right X.01:14
Willkk thanks01:14
LjLWill: the number is the one that operating systems are listed in01:14
soundrayWill: there is a line called "default" fairly far up.01:14
julianIm trying to enter full screen mode in Vmware server. i receive an error saying that i couldnt find config file01:15
cafuegodeedubb__: here is sure is logrotate01:15
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Willit says 0 :S01:15
LjLWill: also look at the comments above that "default" line. perhaps you might like to use the "saved" feature.01:15
AtticStormIn Gnome has anyone been seeing lines in their buttons that clear when one puts the mouse pointer on them?01:15
deedubb__cafuego: I can't find where in /etc/logrotate.conf or logrotate.d where this is set01:15
LjLWill: sure, that means the default OS to boot is the first one -- i.e. probably Ubuntu01:15
Willwhats the saved feature?01:15
ferret0567And on my computer with JFS and /boot my partitons are like this: Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20000000000 bytes01:15
ferret0567255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2431 cylinders01:15
ferret0567Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes01:15
ferret0567   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:15
ferret0567/dev/hda1               1          19      152586   83  Linux01:15
ferret0567/dev/hda2              20        2431    19374390   83  Linux01:15
ferret0567Disk /dev/hdb: 10.2 GB, 10245537792 bytes01:15
ferret0567255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders01:15
phaedrus_how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it?01:16
ferret0567Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes01:16
ferret0567   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:16
ferret0567/dev/hdb1               1          16      128488+  82  Linux swap / Solaris01:16
holzmodemhi im using the Network Manager for my wifi connection, now i search for a deb package for the openvpn >> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=329701:16
ferret0567/dev/hdb2              17        1245     9871942+  83  Linux01:16
LjLWill: if you're looking into booting Windows by default, then that will *possibly* be number 2 (0 being ubuntu, 1 being ubuntu in recovery mode, 2 being windows). this doesn't have to be the case though01:16
ferret0567I will stop flooding the channnel01:16
LjL!paste | ferret056701:16
ubotuferret0567: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:16
deedubb__cafuego: do you have entries I do not?01:16
Willhow i work out what number xp is then?01:16
soundrayWill: 0 is the first entry. Find out the correct number from the list that you get when you type 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0'01:16
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LjLWill, look at your boot menu. 0 is the first menu entry, etc.01:16
cafuegodeedubb__: no mention of it, yet it is rorated by logrotate here. probabnly a 'default'.01:17
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LjLWill: the "saved" feature is explained in the comment. basically it starts the OS that was run last, by default01:17
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iamtheobjectexcuse me, Would anyone know if an SPF record would fix a bogus helo ?01:17
AlexFicelleWill: My advice is this: move the "Windows" entry to the top and set "default" to 0 (should already be that way). It's much easier than counting your Ubuntu entries, which may be changing after updates...01:17
deedubb__cafuego that'd be crazy to have a default like that01:17
cafuegodeedubb__: Nevertheless01:17
deedubb__and if you do logrotate -dv /etc/logrotate.conf 2>&1 | grep -i auth you'd think it'd show up01:18
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Willhow do i change it to the top then?01:18
ferret0567/dev/hda1 is ext3 /boor and hda2 isJFS /01:18
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LjLsureshot: that's not true. Ubuntu gives you things that Fedora does not, and viceversa. they're just different. there are programs that Ubuntu has packaged and Fedora has not, and vice versa. you might find that some features are better integrated in Ubuntu or Fedora. the only thing i can say is that *i think* that Fedora is a bit more on the bleeding-edge, and thus on the unstable. i'm not really even sure.01:18
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Willdo i have to do that inside the menu?01:19
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deedubb__cafuego: how are you so sure it's done by logrotate cafuego?01:19
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soundrayLjL: too bad, he just left01:19
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spanglesontoastdoes anyone know much about tinyhoneypot01:19
cafuegodeedubb__: Coz I also have an auth.log.1.gz and auth.log.2.gz etc :-)01:19
LjLWill, no. look at the menu: if Ubuntu is the first entry (i.e. 0), and Ubuntu recovery is the second (i.e. 1), and Windows XP is the third (i.e. 2), you'll have to make that line of /boot/grub/menu.lst say "default 2", to boot XP by default01:20
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AlexFicelleWill: No, do that once Ubuntu is started.01:20
iamtheobjectyes, it will fix it01:20
cafuegodeedubb__: and they're all tiemstamped at the time when cron.daily runs.01:20
iamtheobjectthanks iamtheobject01:20
deedubb__cafuego: thats not a good enough answer, I have those files too01:20
LjLWill: if instead you prefer to have Grub remember the last choice, type "default saved" on that line, and read the comment.01:20
neshell yeah a room for the is progy ccol01:20
AsheDis there a commandline way to count the number of folders in a dir?01:20
soundrayAsheD: ls | wc01:20
AlexFicelleWill: Press Alt-F2 (this opens the run command dialog) and type gksudo "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"01:20
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deedubb__cafuego: you're wrong01:20
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Willi know :)01:21
deedubb__its a cron job called sysklogd01:21
AlexFicelleWill: OK, now:01:21
soundrayAsheD: oops, you said folders. 'find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | wc'01:21
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AlexFicelleWill: Find the Windows entry. It has several lines: title, root, savedefault, makeactive and chainloader01:21
cafuegodeedubb__: Same naming scheme, same diff.01:21
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AlexFicelleWill: (at least in my install)01:21
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catuque mierda es esta01:21
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:22
AlexFicelleWill: Cut those lines.01:22
spanglesontoastdoes anyone know much about tinyhoneypot01:22
deedubb__cafuego: no, not same diff01:22
AlexFicelleWill: Search for this phrase: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST01:22
soundrayspanglesontoast: why don't you just ask your real question.01:22
cafuegodeedubb__: See which files `sysklogd' processes?01:22
LjL!info tinyhoneypot01:22
ubotutinyhoneypot: Small honeypot to trap attackers. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.6-8 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 296 kB01:22
catudamn i feel so nebwie01:22
nes] hey you guys know is there a compatible wine version for the ppc macs i have the4 ppc untunbu but i cant get the win apps to run on it  thourgh anything even nwine01:22
AlexFicelleWill: And paste the lines we cut earlier just above that ### line01:22
spanglesontoastwell how do I get thpot to work locally so I can actually see if it works?01:22
deedubb__but sysklogd cronjob != logrotate01:23
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deedubb__anyway, I'm glad it got figured out01:23
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Willok i think ive done it correct01:23
AlexFicelleWill: This should make it the first entry, which is 0.01:23
cafuegodeedubb__: As far as I can tell it ONLY processes /var/log/syslog (The output of `syslogd-listfiles`.01:23
nesi love the gui in the progy01:24
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cafuegodeedubb__: and changes ownership and perms of auth.log, but does NOT archive it.01:24
AlexFicelleWill: You should have a line that says "default 0". This means you want this first entry to be started up by default.01:24
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nesi just wanna run three apps thats it01:24
Willyeah im restarting :~)01:24
AlexFicelleWill: Exactly: save and restart.01:24
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RememberPOLFriefox 2.0 is out. :)01:25
AlexFicelleWill: working? :-)01:25
Willworks :)01:25
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neswhy does ppc macs make so hard to run win apps01:25
cafuegones: becasue ppc != x8601:25
Willthnxs :)01:25
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AlexFicelleWill: you can move your entries around, but try not to mess between the ### lines.01:26
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deedubb__cafuego: syslogd-listfiles --auth run it, understand what the for loop does now?01:26
caliseeanyone running beryl? when i start it in gnome-session-properties on boot it causes my titlebars to disappear, then i can right click the icon in the try, hit refresh window manager.. beryl will show its splash image and everything will go back to normal01:26
AlexFicelleWill: unless you know precisely what you're doing.01:26
Willlol i dont :P01:26
cafuegodeedubb__: Do you see the code in the for loop and what it does?01:26
nesi wana bye dual core macs but no money right now01:26
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cafuegodeedubb__: it runs 1) chown and 2) chmod.01:26
soundraynes: wine is a very ambitious project, even on the type of CPU that Windows itself is written for. Porting it to another architecture must be incredibly difficult.01:26
jarnIs there a way to force a game to open in a window rather than fullscreen?01:26
julianrunning beryl, i dont understand the prob01:27
cafuegodeedubb__: I appreceiate it has another loop thatc alls 'savelog', but as far as I can see that noly runs against /var/log/syslog.01:27
soundrayjarn: I think you can achieve that with xnest01:27
neshelp anyone01:27
caliseejarn, when you just log into X, does the beryl splash screen show and stuff?01:28
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jarncalisee: I don't use beryl.01:29
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ferret0567I can boot from XFS though I discovered but only if GRUB is installed to an MBR...well...ok second HD GRUB again01:29
caliseesorry wrong nick completion01:29
soundraynes: wash my dishes and iron my shirts for three years, and I'll give you a slightly used one.01:29
TheI've got Evolution mail now setup.  How do I join a newsgroup?01:30
caliseejulian, when you log into X does the beryl splash screen show?01:30
ferret0567Does Macromedia Flash Player work under XGL with Compiz/Beryl?01:30
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ferret0567In Firefox?01:30
cafuegoferret0567: sure01:30
goofeyis it ok to upgrade ubuntu-minimal?01:30
jarnsoundray: How does xnest work?01:30
soundrayThe: is evolution a newsreader? That would be news to me...01:30
cafuegosoundray: used to be, but isn't anymore.01:31
cafuegoThe: use 'Pan'.01:31
LjLsoundray: he asked a couple of time where he could find a newsreader -- since nobody replied, i told him that i believed it could be either evolution or thunderbird conceivably. i use KDE01:31
TheI don't know.  I am new to Ubuntu and want to join a newsgroup regarding Wine.01:31
ferret0567Good because with AIGLX it does not on a Intel i810e Integrated Graphics, 512MB of RAM and a nice slow 800mhz processor01:31
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cafuegoferret0567: Note, it may not run _well_. But I see no reason for it to not run at all.01:32
soundrayjarn: I looked at it years ago, but it wasn't the solution for me, so I can't tell you... Anyway, xserver-xephyr replaces it and is recommended now.01:32
ubotuxserver-xephyr: Nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 438 kB, installed size 944 kB01:32
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NEMO4./server irc.relaxnet.org01:32
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goofeymy ubuntu server install says ubuntu-minimal is being kept back from upgrading - any idea why?01:32
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cafuegoNEMO4: Please stop spamming.01:32
soundrayjarn: the principle is this: you start an X server that runs in a window inside your current Xorg session01:32
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Thecafuego: Can I use Synaptic package manger?01:33
cafuegoThe: yup01:33
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raghow to install half life with opengl support01:33
ferret0567Well...with AIGLX Flash Player does not work at all on that computer I just described to you, crashes Firefox01:33
ferret0567I have tested it01:33
raghow to install half life with opengl support or wine with opengl support01:33
cafuegogoofey: it probably depends on a package that needs to be added. Use 'dist-upgrade'.01:33
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goofeycafuego: i will - thanks!01:33
Comrade_SNEMO4 : just take the period form before the slash01:33
|thundersup all01:33
|thunderwho knows how to format a usb flash drive ?01:34
cafuegoComrade_S: it was a spambot, not a newbie ;-)01:34
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goofeycafuego: that was it - thanks!01:34
HilmarHello there, Im relative new to this, but Im trying to set up a Ubuntu server to work as a internet router and as a fileserver for our small network, I am reading the docs on the net, but Im wondering about a few small things. I just installed a program named Shorewall to help me configure my firewall. Anyone here who can help me out a bit?01:34
soundrayThe: is reading the newsgroups online an option? Last I posted netnews, I used Google.01:34
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soundray|thunder, I do01:35
LjLHilmar: not me, i've never configured a firewall on ubuntu. i'll just mention that the other popular alternative is Firestarter, you might want to check that one out as well01:35
|thunderHilmar; im glad you chose ubuntu, but ive never setup a system like that01:35
|thundersoundray; please, do tell.01:35
HilmarI dont have X on it so01:36
soundray|thunder: is it mounted right now?01:36
sidny4Hilmar, go ahead and ask any questions, I've never set one up but someone who has might be able to help01:36
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|thundersoundray; yes01:36
ferret0567What is the recommended swap partition size?01:36
HilmarI have to use a comandline version, my problem is that after I do apt-get sharewall, I get a msg that I have to configure it before I start it, how do I do that01:36
LjLferret0567: make it more than your phisical RAM01:36
ferret05672x, 2.5x, or 3x? I have 512mb01:37
holzmodemhi im searching for an openVPN plugin for the Network Manager is there one avaiable?01:37
soundray|thunder: what's the name it shows as on the desktop?01:37
jarnsoundray: I get what it is, but I can't find out how to use it.01:37
|thunderHilmar; have you tried 'man sharewall' ?01:37
|thundersoundray; 'USB DISK'01:37
cafuegoferret0567: used to bve 2x for performance reasons, but that oddity got fixed in 2.4.6 somewhere :-)01:37
LjLferret0567: i'd make it one gig01:37
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soundrayjarn: sorry, I can't help you other than by pointing to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xephyr01:37
cafuegoferret0567: these days it doesn't much matter, just 'enough to run what you want to'.01:38
matthew_wWill sudo apt-get dist upgrade get me to the edgy RC now?01:38
Hilmarthunder: I figured it was a system config it had to be done, so I assumed it didnt have anything to do with the program itself01:38
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ferret0567So hibernate would work on that right?01:38
LjLmatthew_w: no.01:38
matthew_wLjL, bleg.01:38
HilmarThunder: Tho, I may be wrong01:38
soundray|thunder: do a 'mount | grep USB.DISK' (note the dot). The line that you get should contain something like /dev/sda1, correct?01:38
sidny4Hilmar, it is more than likely that the configuration is for the program01:38
LjLmatthew_w: apt-get dist-upgrade simply upgrades your packages to the latest versions, while employing some "smart" conflict resolution algorithms. that's all it does.01:38
ferret0567As long as swap used plus RAM used = < swap partition size?01:38
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HilmarOk, I try it out, hang on01:39
LjLferret0567: i think it's enough that your swap partition is bigger than your RAM for hibernation to work01:39
|thundersoundray; /dev/sdb101:39
ferret0567Ah, 1.2GB I'll use it's alright01:39
matthew_wLjL; so I would have to wait until the 26 for that to work?01:39
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LjLmatthew_w: it will not work on 26th either. again, apt-get dist-upgrade, despite the "dist" in the name, doesn't have much to do with upgrading to a newer distribution.01:40
matthew_wLjL; change all instances in /etc/apt/sources.list of Dapper to Edgy and do it, eh?01:40
soundray|thunder: good. Do you want a Linux filesystem on it, or do you have to share that device with other OSs?01:40
foohow can I test the up/down speeds on a server via CLI?01:40
LjLmatthew_w: yes. but it's probably better to use update-manager or whatever it's called01:40
|thundersoundray; fat1601:40
matthew_wLjL, update-manager?01:40
raghow to install half life with opengl support or wine with opengl support?01:40
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soundray|thunder: you want to stick with that?01:41
|thundersoundray; its a friends, so yes. its a 1GB drive.01:41
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LjLmatthew_w: "update-manager -c -d" to upgrade to unstable distributions (i.e. edgy at the moment)01:41
julianwhen does edgy come out01:42
LjL!schedule | julian01:42
ubotujulian: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:42
soundray|thunder: I'd always recommend FAT32 for a gigabyte stick, but it's up to you. In any case, you need the package dosfstools.01:42
ShadowthroneHow can I change the order procedures/programs are executed when logging in to Ubuntu?01:42
matthew_wLjL would I still have to uh... change the instances is sources.list?01:42
LjLmatthew_w: no01:42
julianthank u01:42
matthew_wLjL; roger.01:42
matthew_wLjL; the stuff it downloads, will it clear it all out when it's done?01:42
|thunderthanks soundray , ill get it figured out01:43
LjLmatthew_w: i don't think so. you can do that manually with "apt-get clean"01:43
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soundrayShadowthrone: that would not be recommended... is there no other way to solve your problem?01:43
soundray|thunder: mkdosfs is the command.01:43
LjLmatthew_w: perhaps it could be better if you just waited 'til 26th, though.01:43
matthew_wLjL; are you making an inference as to my mad abilites?  lol.01:43
Shadowthronesoundray: All I want to do is switch the order in which gaim and Eterm load up.01:43
ZambeziThere is a command so you get systeminformation. dmseg or something. Anybody knows what it is?01:44
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jribZambezi: dmesg?01:44
LjLmatthew_w: no... it's just that edgy is to be considered unstable until release. basically, you should only use it if you're hunting for bugs, or if you don't care about your system and just want to check it out, or if dapper breaks on your hardware and you know edgy doesn't. since it's 2 days to release, i don't think any of these could apply...01:44
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lupine_85things are still broken :)01:45
soundrayShadowthrone: have you configured those from System-Preferences-Sessions-Startup Programs ?01:45
Zambezijrib, Thanks!01:45
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|thundersoundray; thanks again01:45
Shadowthronesoundray: Aye.01:45
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matthew_wLjL; what is the worst that could possibly happen, it's 2 days away, and besides, the worst it would do is make things not work until the 26th when it actually IS stable and I could just update again, n'est ce pas?01:45
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soundrayShadowthrone: what order do you want?01:45
LjLmatthew_w: non, ce n'est pas. it could break your system and you'd have to either sort it out manually, if you manage to find out how, or reinstall from scratch.01:46
Shadowthronesoundray: The obvious thing to do is delete one and re-add it, but I would have thought there was a more elegant way.01:46
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Shadowthronesounday: Eterm then gaim.01:46
Shadowthronesoundray: Eterm then gaim.01:46
TubaSoldierhow would i go about "installing" the kernel source after compiling it from source myself? do i simply place the source in the /usr/src folder?01:46
LjL!kernel > TubaSoldier01:46
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soundrayShadowthrone: I don't think there is a more elegant way.01:47
jvaiooi ppl01:47
Shadowthronesoundray: Okay, not to worry. Thanks for your time.01:47
matthew_wLjL; the likelihood that something so fundamental as to shatter my system would change over the course of 2 days?01:47
soundrayShadowthrone: if it changes the order by itself, you could start gaim from within an eterm.01:47
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Shadowthronesoundray: Is it possible to automate that?01:47
Shadowthronesoundray: Or are we in "scripting" territory?01:48
mike_eybI need serious help01:48
LjLmatthew_w: low, i would hope, since i'm running edgy. *but* the developers should (and do) feel free to tweak things freely, knowing that they won't break users' machines (well, only the ones of the users who decided to help testing). just keep this in mind.01:48
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greenmanokay, so I'm pretty certain I'm ready to install, can any of you think of commonly forgotten things to backup?  I got htdocs, a dump of the sql, all of /etc, my personal folder, and a backup of my wifes computer, and a backup of my old computer....01:49
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soundrayShadowthrone: no, not scripting, just commandlining. Something like 'eterm -e gaim' should work01:49
mike_eybI installed Ubuntu yesturday and i'm so freaking lost right now01:49
matthew_wLjL; one final question, running update-manager again on Thursday will bring it to stable, yes?01:49
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Shadowthronesoundray: Awesome, I'll have a go with that. Thanks.01:49
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jribmike_eyb: system > help > system documentation   should explain the basics01:49
mike_eybi've been there01:50
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jribmike_eyb: what do you want to know more about?01:50
LjLmatthew: no. it might even try installing Feisty Fawn (that is, Edgy+1), though i doubt it. after you have Edgy installed, it'll be brought to stable by the automatic updater -- or by you manually, by running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" (or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for that matter)01:50
mike_eybfrom wjat i gather i need to edit the xconfig file but to say what?01:50
HilmarTho, is there anyone else who can advice a tool for configuring my firewall, something not requiring X, and not that complicated01:50
matthew_wLjL; ok, good, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't need to redo everything etc.01:50
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matthew_wLjL; thanks.01:50
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jribmike_eyb: what are you trying to do?01:50
lupine_85Hilmar: iptables ;)01:50
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LjLHilmar, i do think shorewall is your best bet.01:51
mike_eybrun dual heads but not in clone mode01:51
jribubotu: tell mike_eyb about xinerama01:51
HilmarI look very complicated01:51
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Hilmarthe .conf file looks very complicated01:51
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mike_eybi have heard about ximerama but don't know what it is. Is it a program that i have to install01:52
sidny4Hilmar http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm01:52
phasegenwhat is the best cd ripper to install on xubuntu?  I'm trying it on my laptop.01:52
jribmike_eyb: ubotu should have sent you a private message containing information about it01:52
HilmarThanx, will take a look01:52
soundraymike_eyb: it's more like a mode to run the X window system in01:52
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everamzahis the centrino duo an smp processor?01:52
mike_eybbut how do i enable the mode01:52
soundrayphasegen: I like abcde01:53
ubotuabcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 276 kB01:53
IRC_i installed w32codecs but i cant play launch videos with pklaunch. what else do i need to play videos?01:53
cafuegoeveramzah: no01:53
soundraymike_eyb: by following the instructions you got from ubotu01:53
HilmarShorewall uses iptables right?01:53
cafuegoeveramzah: it might be multi-core though.01:53
Hilmarit just configures them>?01:53
jribmike_eyb: the page ubotu sent you to tells you01:54
cafuegoeveramzah: (In which case you'll want an SMP kernel)01:54
everamzahcafuego: thanks. im trying to compile a kernel on my new laptop, and having probs...01:54
phasegenI'll give it a try...    Thanks Folks!01:54
IRC_i installed w32codecs but i cant play launch videos with pklaunch. what else do i need to play videos?01:54
SefyrothHow do I configure stuff like resolution and sound drivers and stuff like that with Fluxbox^01:54
mike_eybI'm running an ati card and i copied the xorg.conf file for the ATI card in to mine and restarted my machine and both monitor are working however that are cloning each other01:54
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greenmanokay, so I'm pretty certain I'm ready to install, can any of you think of commonly forgotten things to backup? I got htdocs, a dump of the sql, all of /etc, my personal folder, and a backup of my wifes computer, and a backup of my old computer....01:55
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soundraymike_eyb: look at your chat client. There should be a private message from ubotu. Read and follow that.01:55
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soundraygreenman: I usually save /var/cache/apt/archives to save having to re-download01:57
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greenmansoundray: oh, this isn't ubuntu, i'm switching distros :)01:57
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eddieduceI've installed pan but get handshake failed errors.  what gives?01:58
soundraygreenman: any spools, mail, print, fax?01:58
IRC_i installed w32codecs but i cant play launch videos with pklaunch. what else do i need to play videos?01:58
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hikenboothello all I think i have found a solution to my nvidia problems...problem is it says to edit a file to fix the problem but it failts to say which one http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL/Troubleshooting its in the section "plain-Jane X serve"  can anyone tell me what file its talking about?01:58
greenmansoundray: nope.  thanks.01:58
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nekohayohey there, does anyone have archives of the old ubuntu artworks (GDM themes for example) of the previous releases? Or know a place where they are archived? Any way to get those nowadays?02:00
Flannelhikenboot: have you tried the ubuntu specific XGL instructions?02:00
jvaiis dapper able to work w/ the linksys wifi 54g card?02:00
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cafuegojvai: Maybe. You'll have to give us specific model (and chipset) info.02:01
SpudDoggDoes anyone know why when I try to use Terminal Server Client in fullscreen mode, I get a LONG list of errors?02:01
sidny4jvai, might have to use ndiswrapper but it should02:01
hikenbootFlannel got a link?02:01
Flannelhikenboot: #ubuntu-xgl and I believe it's in the topic02:01
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:01
Flannelthat too02:01
soundraySpudDogg: no, sorry... but were you able to fix your madwifi prob?02:02
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hikenbootthanks will try02:02
SpudDoggsoundray, yes, i got that one fixed02:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:02
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jvaisnnaap. a friend has the card...i gave her a breezy cd install/live to play with02:02
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ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!02:02
ajmitchLjL: yes?02:03
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fibsHi, I have a USRobotics 33.6 Win95.. what is the status of this in Ubuntu, will it function?02:03
soundrayfibs: how is it connected?02:03
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LjLajmitch: err, look at the joins in the last minute02:03
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fibsInternal ISA02:03
ajmitchLjL: do you mean the netsplit?02:04
preactionLjL, it's called a netsplit02:04
jvaiyea, that was alot of ppl02:04
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LjLoh it was a netsplit... somehow i missed the parts02:04
fibsLjL: wow whats going on02:04
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit02:04
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fibsAre We in a netsplit02:04
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soundrayfibs: are you sure it's a winmodem?02:05
preactionfibs, no, that's what all those joins were02:05
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LjLno, it should be up now02:05
fibssoundray: i think so im in windows right now02:05
fibsmy brother in law told me it was02:05
fibshes a linux guy02:05
RogerBaconhey, i have a ipod 5g. How i mount it manually (is not automounted)02:05
preactionyou'll see a bunch of quits with (serverOne serverTwo) as the quit message, then a bunch of joins02:05
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preactionRogerBacon, dmesg will tell you where it's been assigned a device node, then mount -t auto /dev/<whatever> /media/ipod02:06
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wikijeffIs there a way to reinstall ubuntu without using all of my data? (Aside from restoring it from backup) I would like to keep the stuff in my home directory.02:07
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soundrayfibs: to be sure, you might have to look at the card itself and find a chipset identifier. Then you can check http://www.linmodems.org/ . I think for a fairly old model like that, the Lucent driver is most likely to work.02:08
Flannelwikijeff: is /home on it's own partition?02:08
LjLwikijeff: use the Alternate CD, and tell it to not format the partition.02:08
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SpudDoggsoundray, hey man, do you think you can help me with another problem?02:08
wikijeffFlannel, no it isn't. Ljl, what' the alternate CD?02:08
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.02:08
Y0da^does anyone know if there's 3d acceleration support for an ati agp 345m card?02:09
Flannelwikijeff: you should think about putting /home on it's own partition, then you can reinstall 'around' your home partition02:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:09
soundraySpudDogg: I will certainly try. So will all the *real* experts on this channel02:09
sidny4personally, I prefer the alternate CD, the desktop cd seems buggy02:09
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LjLwikijeff: what i've done sometimes was to 1) boot the install CD 2) go to a console 3) remove everything from the partition, except /home, using the console 4) tell the installer not to format the partition 5) install02:09
LjLa backup would still be preferred though. now i keep /home in a separate partition02:09
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greenmani got a laugh out of this:02:10
greenmani'm a little n00bie short and stout, here is my nickname here is my SHOUT!!!1 when i get all flamed up hear me SHOUT!!1 ban me forever, kick me out02:10
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wikijeffOk, it sounds like I should just put /home on a separate partition, I assume this would be best for updating to edgy as well. When installing using the Live CD will it be clear to me how to do this?02:10
SpudDoggsoundray, experts:  I keep getting this error every time I install something via Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs.  Any ideas?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28037/02:10
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Dr_williswikijeff,  it pays to pay attention. :P02:11
LjLwikijeff: yes, but *you'll have to backup the current /home first!* you can't just make a new partition and have /home magically move there02:11
Dr_willisyou will have to tell it what partition should be mounted as /home02:11
Dr_willisand IVE had issues with gnome/kde configs   when upgrading and keeping /home02:11
soundraySpudDogg: run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and pastebin the full output02:11
wikijeffLjl, ok. I already backed up what I want to save from /home02:11
wikijeffShould I just wait a week until Edgy is released and then do a clean install?02:12
phasegenubotu,  soundray,   you were absolutely correct.  abcde works just like I wanted.  Thank You.02:12
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LjLwikijeff: you should most probably wait until it's released, yes. whether it's clean install or upgrade, that's really up to you02:12
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wickedpuppywhy ya talking to the bot phasegen ??02:12
LjLphasegen, ubotu is a bot02:13
SpudDoggsoundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28038/02:13
everamzahthat's not to say he doesnt have emotions haha02:13
soundraywhy not, wickedpuppy? Bot's been helpful ;)02:13
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phasegenthen whoever wrote him, I owe a thanks to.02:13
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wickedpuppyah bot just does what it has been instructed ... saying thanks to the bot's writer would make more sense02:13
Y0da^So.... does anyone know if there's 3d acceleration support for an ati agp 345m card?02:14
LjL!ati | Y0da^02:14
ubotuY0da^: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:14
wikijeffFlannel, Ljl, Dr_willis, thanks guys02:14
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phasegenmaybe I'll get thanked for any good my son does.  I get blamed for his screw-ups02:15
Y0da^okay... that doesn't apply to this card.02:15
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Y0da^the ATI (fglrx) driver isn't for the 345m02:15
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YBH_1firefox 2.0 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/en-US/02:16
soundraySpudDogg: this is a slightly brutal approach, but I think it'll work: 'sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install'02:17
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Y0da^So.... does anyone know if there's 3d acceleration support for an ati agp 345m card?02:18
SpudDoggsoundray, i really do not want to have to format...are you sure this isn't going to screw anything up?02:18
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soundraySpudDogg: no. LjL, do you have an opinion about this?02:19
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Random_Transithey, is it normal for amarok to be eating up over 100MB of my RAM>?02:19
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Hydrahow can i find which package provides a given file?02:19
soundrayRandom_Transit: hey, it's a modern application ;)02:19
Hydrae.g. mount.cifs02:19
Y0da^does anyone know if there's a mIRC for linux02:19
LjLsoundray: what happened? is that RPM packages installed through alien and breaking stuff?02:20
FlannelHydra: packages.ubuntu.com has a search02:20
RogerBaconhey, i have a 55GO (from gigabeat S) HDD, and i put it into my ipod to view the system file and system file but i have several error code from mount and fdisk ...02:20
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soundrayLjL: no, I think it's a circular dependency between ubuntu proper packages02:20
FlannelY0da^: there isn't.  xChat is comparable02:20
HydraFlannel, can you not use the package manager / apt-something ?02:20
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Krux0is there anyway i can download all the packages i have installed on my system so that i may be able to tar the archive dir in /var and bring it over to a pc that is not networked02:20
FlannelHydra: The problem is that information isn't available to the package manager until after the install02:20
LjLsoundray: hmm, then if it's really a circular dep, i'd try "dpkg --force-depends -i package1" and "dpkg --force-depends -i package2", and then see if apt-get is happy with that02:21
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Hydrai know with other package manages you can ask "--what-provides=<filename>"02:21
LjLsoundray: in other words, install them all by hands, and see if then APT realizes "oh, the dependencies *are* satisfied after all!"02:21
Hydraodd then, smbfs provides mount.cifs02:21
Hydrawhich i installed02:21
Hydramaybe a reboot is required?02:21
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soundrayHydra: mount.cifs is in smbfs. 'sudo apt-get -f install apt-file ; sudo apt-file update ; apt-file search mount.cifs'02:21
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Hydrawhat does apt-file update do ?02:22
FlannelHydra: reboots aren't required except for kernel updates02:22
soundraySpudDogg: did you follow this? I'd try my suggestion first, then LjL's if that fails.02:22
ParisiAnyone using Eft + Beryl?02:22
LjLHydra: it creates/updates the apt-file database, which contains filename-to-package correspondences02:22
Random_TransitFlannel, not entirely true02:22
Random_Transiti just had to do one because i updated a bunch of MIME Settings02:22
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Hydraok, after vista has installed i'll try booting back into linux and check that out02:22
SpudDoggsoundray, no i have not done anything yet...everything works fine, i just get the error.  do you think i should even play with it?02:23
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FlannelRandom_Transit: er, you shouldn't have.  Maybe restarting gnome02:23
Random_TransitFlannel...i'm using XFCE02:23
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FlannelRandom_Transit: whatever, restarting [your WM] 02:23
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LjLsoundray, oh, well that's really just about the same thing i was saying. though perhaps "redhat-cluster-suite*.deb" is not enough, and you'd have to have to add "clvm" and other dependencies as well... or for that matter, "sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/*" ;-) perhaps this one *02:24
soundraySpudDogg: to be honest, forcing an install despite of a buggy dependency is not *that* risky. It will still remove cleanly, if it still doesn't work.02:24
LjLis* too brutal though02:24
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LjLsoundray, are the packages in /var/cache/apt or /var/cache/apt/archives anyway? i thought the latter02:24
SpudDoggsoundray, ok, so you want me to try your suggestion first?02:24
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soundraySpudDogg: no, LjL just found a bug...02:25
soundraySpudDogg: this is a slightly brutal approach, but I think it'll work: 'sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install'02:25
ferret0567How do I reconfigure xserver-xorg after install?02:25
soundraySpudDogg: something else before you start...02:25
LjLpray :P02:25
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soundraySpudDogg: make sure there is only one package that matches /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb02:26
wickedpuppyferret0567, actually the command is on top of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file02:26
SpudDoggsoundray, how do i check that?02:26
LjLSpudDogg: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb02:26
soundraySpudDogg: with ls ;)02:26
iammisc I have an HP_Officejet d145. This printer is shared via ipp. The cups on the remote computer DOES NOT AND NEVER WILL accept raw connections. The gnome-cups-add wizard does not allow me to select a normal postscript driver but use the hp officejet d145 ppd file. How do i get this to work?02:26
ferret0567What does that mean?02:26
sidny4ferret0567 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:27
wickedpuppyferret0567, that means read that file ?02:27
ferret0567Oh, edit it...02:27
wickedpuppyor just use the command given by sidny402:27
wickedpuppyno read ... not edit02:27
LjL( soundray: if [ `ls /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb | wc -l` == 1 ] ; then echo "YES, there is only one\!"; else echo "No, sorry..."; fi )02:27
SpudDoggLjL, soundray, the only output is /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite_1.20060222-0ubuntu6_all.deb02:27
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LjLSpudDogg: alright, then go ahead02:27
soundraySpudDogg: all right, go ahead then ;)02:28
ferret0567Have you tested this method sidny4?02:28
wickedpuppyferret0567, do this less /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:28
wickedpuppyyou will see the line given by sidny402:28
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ferret0567Cause I have a NVIDIA Geforce 4 MX 440 with AGP 8x and a Dell 2005FPW monitor (widescreen 1680x1050@60Hz res)02:29
SpudDoggLjL, soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28040/02:29
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ferret0567And that is annoying with the monitor I am sure and just 2 quick changes with NVIDIA02:30
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wickedpuppyferret0567, i am using nvidia gforce 5500.. never have problem for 5 years of using linux02:30
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ferret0567The video card is easy the monitor not so easy02:31
ferret0567I have never used NVIDIA on Linux before02:31
soundraySpudDogg: do you actually have LVM partitions?02:31
SpudDoggsoundray, what is LVM?02:31
wickedpuppyah widescreen ... i am using normal 19 inch lcd ... nvidia on linux is pretty good i can tell ya .. i never had bad experience with it before02:31
SpudDoggsoundray, i partitioned with the winblows installer02:32
soundraySpudDogg: logical volume manager. If you have to ask, you don't have any.02:32
ferret0567Widescreen will be annoying...02:32
ferret0567Any tips for this monitor would help...02:32
wickedpuppyferret0567, call dell ?02:32
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soundraySpudDogg: You don't need clvm. Do a 'sudo apt-get --purge remove clvm'02:33
sidny4ferret0567, have you installed the nvidia drivers?02:33
ferret0567Ok....but I will have to admit I am using Linux on thier hardware as the machine is a Dell Dimension 460002:33
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LjLsoundray: it's depended on by redhat-cluster-suite however02:33
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SpudDoggsoundray, same error at the end02:34
wickedpuppyferret0567, why not install nvidia first then ?????????????????02:34
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sidny4ok, you'll want to install them02:34
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:34
ferret0567Just installing with xserver-xorg set to use default 1024x768 and lower screen reses...with the alternative install cd...02:34
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CThoon boot, I have no networking with http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/596 under VMware Player.02:34
BagoorI have two ext3 partition, which the data of first one is important, but the second one is free. Is there any way to merge them, and make them one partition ?02:34
sidny4and it should be in the universal repositories02:34
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SpudDoggsoundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28042/02:35
ferret0567I will want to install the NVIDIA drivers first before I configure the monitor further02:35
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soundrayLjL: this is getting difficult -- it won't uninstall before it's configured.02:35
kholerabbiI am using dapper livecd on a asus laptop. The touchpad works to move around and click, but it wont scroll or drag. Is there anything I could do to make these work or customize the pad at all?02:35
sidny4ferret0567, yes, you will want to install the driver02:35
ScrnNme34hello, how come "sudo make install" wont work from terminal?02:35
LjLsoundray: --force-configure-any, in dpkg: "Configure also any unpacked but unconfigured packages on which the current package depends."02:36
FlannelScrnNme34: what error does it give you?02:36
sidny4ScrnNme34, you'll probably need build-essential02:36
ScrnNme34bash:  unknown cmnd Make02:36
LjLsoundray: not *really* sure what that means... what i was looking for was a "pretend package was configured" option, not sure it's the one02:36
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ScrnNme34oooooooooh Yeah.   OK  search for "build-essential" in Synaptic. got it02:36
ferret0567I know...no 3D acceleration...no support in "nv" driver for resolutions larger than 1024x768 I think too...02:37
ScrnNme34thanks sidny02:37
sidny4no prob02:37
sidny4what are you talking about ferret0567?02:37
soundrayI don't think that's the one, LjL02:37
ferret0567In the "nv" default NVIDIA open-source driver before installing the propriatory one you referenced those are the limitations02:38
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soundraySpudDogg: we'll have to force a successful run of the post-installation script02:39
LjLsoundray: i dunno. want an even worse suggestion?  echo -e "#!/bin/sh\nexit 0" >/etc/init.d/clvm ; chmod +x /etc/init.d/clvm02:39
SpudDoggsoundray, hey man, baby steps...02:39
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Bagoorhow can I see the size of a folder ?02:39
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LjLBagoor: du02:40
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soundraySpudDogg: the post-installation script is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.postinst. Open it with gksudo gedit (or your favorite editor)02:40
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ferret0567The limitations of the NVIDIA open-source driver are these: no 3d acceleration for sure and no support for resolutions larger than 1024x768 I think02:40
SpudDoggsoundray, what exactly am i looking for in the file?02:40
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Siph0nwhich is easier/possible, 1) installing ubuntu over a network? or 2) installing ubuntu from a portable usb hard drive?02:41
sidny4ferret0567, where are you getting this?02:41
LjLferret0567: not true. i think there is some 3D acceleration, though much less than in the binary driver, and it can most definitely support high resolutions02:41
pike_ah flash 9 beta works well :)02:41
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soundraySpudDogg: a point before it does anything serious. At that point, you insert the line 'exit 0'. Then you do another 'sudo apt-get -f install'02:41
LjL!install > Siph0n02:41
ferret0567Good thing to be corrected02:41
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unipachello all02:41
ferret0567From my own head02:41
SpudDoggsoundray, lol.  you want to see the file and tell me where to put that?02:41
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Siph0nthanx Ljl! :)02:42
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sidny4ic ic, is that a viable source? :P02:42
ferret0567If other people know more than clarify me02:42
wickedpuppyferret0567, you mean you been saying whatever comes to your head?02:42
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unipachelp me, how do I change my password of root?02:42
soundraySpudDogg: no, put it as the second line, after the #!/bin... stuff02:42
ferret0567No, that was out of my memory02:42
LjL!root > unipac02:42
CThounipac: sudo passwd ?02:42
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wickedpuppyferret0567, thats fine but pls don't scare us here ...02:42
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unipacCTho, how try man02:42
LjLwickedpuppy: you should be more scared by the binary driver, since it's exploitable ;-)02:42
eck0hi all02:42
eck0anyone used cedega?02:43
sidny4I agree with wickedpuppy :D02:43
sidny4eck0, sure do02:43
eck0do you use eve-online02:43
unipacCTho, nothing..02:43
LjLunipac, please read what the bot told you02:43
ruuutengo una pregunta , no puedo iniciar sesion ni con mi particion de linux ni con la de windows porke me salio un problema del grub erro 15 , quiero saber como puedo formatear SOLO la particion de win202:43
unipacLjL, Where02:43
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:43
LjL!root | unipac02:43
ubotuunipac: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:43
sidny4man, my kb stinks02:43
unipacubotu, I knew02:44
SpudDoggsoundray, success!  i think... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28044/02:44
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LjLunipac: then why are you asking about changing you root password?02:44
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ferret0567Huh, with the alternative install CD with XFS on /, swap ,JFS on /home, then logical container containing FAT32 it suggests I install LILO02:44
sidny4I love how people think ubotu is someone02:44
ferret0567uboto is a robot02:45
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soundraySpudDogg: yes, well, clvm still won't work, but since you don't need it, it won't really matter...02:45
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soundraySpudDogg: what are you setting up a cluster for?02:45
wickedpuppyferret0567, really .. have you been using linux for a long time ?02:45
LjLubotu, are you a robot?02:45
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SpudDoggsoundray, im not setting up any clusters.  that error started when i installed some package i cant remember.  thank you for the help man!02:46
eck0anyone play eve-online thru cedega02:46
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ferret0567I knew that when it responded to me very quickly. Repremending me of stuff that *should* have gone to the paste bin02:46
unipacLjL, thanks02:46
ferret0567I have been wickedpuppy02:46
pike_eck0: might try /j cedega02:47
ferret05671.2 years atleast02:47
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eck0i got it but when eve opens it says windows 2000 sp2 required02:47
eck0but its supposto emu02:47
soundraySpudDogg: you're welcome. Remember, this was a bit of a quick and dirty solution. Consider removing all three of the problematic packages.02:47
LjLeck0, if you run "winecfg", you can set Wine to behave as a specific version of windows. try telling it it's Windows XP02:47
sidny4eck0, have you switched it to play under windows 2k or windows xp?02:47
ferret0567Hmm...should I use LILO?02:47
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SpudDoggsoundray, well, i'll wait until i have a problem to uninstall anyhting else.  if it aint broke...02:48
SpudDoggsoundray, but thanks again man.  brb02:48
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eck0how would i do that02:48
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wickedpuppyferret0567, if so ... lilo or grub .. either one should be familiar for you02:48
Tini2Hello guys.02:48
soundraySpudDogg: technically, it *is* broken... anyway, glad I could help a bit...02:48
LjLeck0, type "winecfg" in a console.02:48
pvt_harvhi Tini202:48
LjLsoundray: it sure is02:48
ferret0567I have used LILO before but not for a long time02:49
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wickedpuppythere is always google ...02:49
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eck0im using cedega not wine02:49
Tini2pvt_harv: hi :p02:49
sidny4umm, right click on the game shortcut and go to settings or properties, then in there somewhere you should be able to switch it to windows xp02:49
wickedpuppysince this channel can't sasy rtfm , is it ok to say stfg ?02:49
LjLeck0: then i don't know, but there has to be a similar option somewhere02:49
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.02:50
CThoif the vmware network module loads, why would i get "No such device" in ifup/ifdown?02:50
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ferret0567Does LILO boot from XFS?02:50
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LjLsoundray: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=clvm&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=02:50
iammischow do i make cups use a ppd file from a printer but have it use the postscript driver.02:50
eck0it works02:50
ferret0567This LILO apperantly is in the ALternatve install CD02:50
iammiscWhy is ubuntu so complicated?02:50
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sidny4eck0, sweet02:51
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wickedpuppysidny4, got my message ? LOL02:51
soundraySpudDogg: the clean solution would now be to compile a new clvm package that fixes the postinstall bug and install it over the old one.02:51
ferret0567Does LILO chainload/boot Windows XP Home?02:51
sidny4wickedpuppy, haha, I like that one02:51
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soundrayLjL: oh, thanks. SpudDogg, did you see that? It's a known bug.02:51
pvt_harvferret0567: yes, i believe so02:52
eck0it works but laggy as hell02:52
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wickedpuppysidny4, too bad we all be kick/banned for saying it on the main channel :P02:52
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sidny4wickedpuppy, I know, people are too sensitive and lazy02:52
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LjLoh, and p02:53
cpk2wickedpuppy: stfg?02:53
wickedpuppysidny4, well ... happy helping dude .. i go watch ghost in the shell02:53
sidny4LjL, wouldn't that be 4 then?02:53
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wickedpuppycpk2, no i won't explain it here ... sorry02:53
sidny4alright, catch ya later02:53
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LjLsidny4: five actually, since ! needs shift02:53
sidny4true, true02:53
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eck0i dunno but it laggs like its the programs job lol02:54
sidny4you should make that combo into a macro, then all you need is one fingure :D02:54
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hockyhairis there a repo with newest xmame? im having problems with the version i have02:55
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LjLanyway, what stfg means is easy to discover... well, unless you don't know how to stfg02:55
sidny4and if you don't, you shouldn't be allowed to use technology02:55
iammisci have a remotely attached printer(ipp and an HP Officejet d145). I dont want to use hpijs from the client because my cups server is quite capable of converting between postscript and hp language. Theppd file on linuxprinting.org uses hpijs. The ppd file describes the margins and the double sided printing stuff. How do i make the foomatic driver use just the normal postscript driver?02:55
ferret0567Well...just rebooted into XP to test if it works and it does so now I am booting into Ubuntu (a shiny, new install(02:55
cpk2well i am just wondering what g is, google?02:56
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LjLcpk2: bingo02:56
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sidny4cpk2, ding ding ding ding, we have a winner02:56
cpk2well that isnt very grammatically correct02:56
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LjLcpk2: is the meaning of "stfu" grammatically correct?02:57
soundrayOops, cpk2, you forgot an apostrophe between the 'n' and the 't' ;)02:57
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hockyhairim having problems with xmame.SDL 1.01 it is transparent where it should be black02:58
hockyhairi have this issue in beryl02:58
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LjL!xgl | hockyhair02:58
ubotuhockyhair: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:58
hockyhairim pretty sure it works in other frontends like ob3 or gnome np02:58
ferret0567Oh, no! A LILO error! L 99 99 99 99 for a while then stops02:58
hockyhairLjL: ?02:58
ferret0567Now what?02:59
pike_ferret0567: install grub? :)02:59
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ferret0567And how do I do that once I have already partitioned02:59
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LjLhockyhair: if you're using Beryl with XGL/AIGLX, it doesn't suprise me that some programs can do weird things, especially as the graphics are concerned. please ask in #ubuntu-xgl, or avoid using such experimental technology ;-)02:59
LjLferret0567: grub-install02:59
CThois there a way to use apt to downgrade from etch to dapper drake?02:59
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ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.02:59
ferret0567And what about the menu.lst?02:59
eck0does ur game lagg on cedega03:00
soundrayCTho: no. Do a reinstall.03:00
pike_ferret0567: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto im sure youre pretty familiar03:00
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CThosoundray: the dapper drake image I have gives me no networking03:00
sidny4well, my shift is over, cya later03:00
soundrayCTho: then stick with edgy.03:00
CThosoundray: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/59603:00
CThosoundray: edgy can't compile mozilla03:01
LjLis that *edgy* or *etch* anyway03:01
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LjLsounds terrible. why do you want to compile mozilla anyway?03:01
soundrayCTho: then use the packaged version03:01
CThosoundray: that's not an option, i need a debug build that i can use for debugging03:01
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CThosoundray: i'm a developer, so I kind of need to build03:01
LjLCTho: then what happens when you try to compile it?03:01
CThoLjL: link problems03:01
CThoLjL: the other developers think binutils is too new03:02
sethkCTho, no, that's not the problem03:02
CThosethk: oh?03:02
sethkCTho, what link errors do you get, specifically?03:02
LjLCTho, you could always install Dapper in a virtual machine if all else fails03:02
sethkCTho, just the first one, usually when you get one you get hundreds03:02
CThoLjL: i'm running dapper ina  virtual machine03:03
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CThosethk: something about a weak reference03:03
ferret0567I have never messed with menu.lst before...03:03
CThosethk: if you hang on a minute i can boot that image up...03:03
sethkCTho, ok03:03
soundrayCTho: so, to summarize, in order to be able to compile mozilla with debug symbols, you would like to downgrade from edgy to dapper. ;-)03:03
tonyyarussoI'm having trouble with X failing to start with Intel integrated 845G graphics chipset - text console is fine; X error output complains about not finding BIOS video modes; any ideas?03:03
sethkCTho, usually the weak reference message is a warning03:03
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laszlokis there a way to put my resolution back to the default one after a fullscreen application crashes without restarting X?03:04
pike_ferret0567: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda      i think from the ubuntu livecd03:05
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LjLCTho, what vmware are you using? networking was fine in the vmware-player package i used (which is in multiverse)03:05
CThoLjL: player03:05
CThoLjL: on winXP, but that really shouldn't matter03:05
pike_ferret0567: or did you have questions about something specific in menu.lst ?03:05
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LjLpike_: shouldn't that be more like sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/hda1 /dev/hda, from the cd?03:06
Chippyhello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver, but everytime I do the kernel module gets the wrong version (7xxx or something, installing 8776), and so will boot into X once (no idea why the first time works), but anytime after that X crashes.  Any ideas?03:06
ferret0567I need GRUB installed, the whole thing03:06
soundraylaszlok: tried System-Preferences-Screen Resolution?03:06
ferret0567Including menu.lst having an option for XP03:06
pike_LjL: yeah if you want to be all accurate about it :)03:06
Flannelferret0567: the grub installer will autodetect windows, and add it03:07
CThowoah, ubuntu plays a sound when i log in03:07
CThomust have had it muted last night03:07
laszloksoundray: that doesnt do it for some reason03:07
ferret0567And Ubuntu and it's kernel on the installed drive if I just tell grub to use files in /dev/hdb1?03:08
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soundraylaszlok: xvidtune comes to mind...03:08
ubotuxvidtune: X client - xvidtune. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 100 kB03:08
ferret0567Nothing but trying it out will help I guess...03:08
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Flannelferret0567: er... yes?  Not really sure I understand that question03:08
Code-EHow do I install Java Runtime Environment in xubuntu03:09
Flannel!tell Code-E about java03:09
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Chippyhello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver version 8776, but each time I install it the kernel module picks up the wrong version and so X crashes.  Can anyone help?03:09
soundraylaszlok: just hit 'Next' and 'Previous'03:09
eck0when you guys installed did it ask for a root pw?03:09
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eck0cuz it didnt ask me03:09
preaction!root > eck003:09
Flanneleck0: no.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account03:09
laszloksoundray: thanks! it worked03:09
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eck0then how do i install stuff?03:09
marcrosofteck0, but you can make one03:09
eck0its asking me for super user stuff03:09
Flanneleck0: read the link ubotu sent you03:09
preactioneck0, look at what ubotu says03:09
Flannelmarcrosoft: but he has no reason to03:10
mezokoWhen trying to connect to a nfs share I get, mount rpc timedout03:10
CThoLjL: ok, undefined reference to nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference(nsIWeakReference**)03:10
mezokoany suggestiosn03:10
cafuegoeck0: You use 'sudo' to run things as root.03:10
marcrosofteck0, i prefer to use root account03:10
Flannelmarcrosoft: but he has no reason to03:10
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cafuegoeck0: if the installer wants your root password, it is broken and you should probably avoind the software.03:10
preactionsudo su, sudo -S, etc... no permanent root account necessary03:10
marcrosoftFlannel, yeah...03:10
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eck0i need to install video drivers03:10
cpk2Flannel: actually once sudo stopped working in the middle of a session and it was at that point i wished I had a root account set up03:10
cafuegoeck0: which ones?03:10
sethkeck0, you can use root, or you can use sudo.  some people believe sudo is better (which is false) and say the root account is "not there" which is also false03:10
marcrosoftFlannel, didn't mean to jump in... just thought id through that out there03:11
Chippyhello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver version 8776, but each time I install it the kernel module picks up the wrong version and so X crashes.  Can anyone help?03:11
iammiscthe open source radeon driver creates lines on my gtk buttons. Hwo come?03:11
sethkeck0, it's also false to say root is "disabled" or any of the other nonsense.03:11
CTho(or, sethk / soundray)03:11
Flannelsethk: no it's not.  the root login IS disabled03:11
CThosoundray: yes, it's a virtual machine - i don't really care about the distro / environment. ijust want to use valgrind03:11
ferret0567Flannel: "the grub installer will autodetect windows, and add it" plus the additional requirement of Ubuntu OS (main) boot option in the boot menu of GRUB automagically when GRUB is installed03:11
sethkFlannel, nonsense03:11
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cafuegosethk: No, it's true.03:11
sethkFlannel, the password is not set.  the machine absolutely will not run without a working root account03:11
SiliconViperHmm... is there another way to delete a file, if it doesn't respond to attempts via rm / unlink ?03:12
sethkFlannel, just do ps aux, you'll see all the processes running as root03:12
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cpk2its not disabled you just dont have a password03:12
CThohttp://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=436507 solved my problem in dapper...now i just have to install a boatload of packages to get X and its libs ;)03:12
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cafuegosethk: note he said "login disabled" not "account disabled".03:12
sethkcpk2, correct03:12
Flannelsethk: root account login is disabled.  Read ALL of those words, carefully03:12
sethkFlannel, not true.03:12
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sethkFlannel, one _can_ disable a login, but not by leaving the password blank03:12
Flannelsethk: ubuntu doesn't have a blank password, the root account is disabled03:12
Chippyhello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver version 8776, but each time I install it the X module picks up the wrong version and so X crashes.  Can anyone help?03:12
sethkFlannel, for example it's common to create accounts that cannot log in for email purposes.03:12
marcrosoftguys arguing over semantics03:12
sethkFlannel, no03:12
marcrosoftsame difference03:12
cafuegosethk: You'll find the password is not blank. have a look.03:12
cpk2and i thought that root does have a password when you install but its just random03:13
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sethkcafuego, of course not, I changed it  :)03:13
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sethkcpk2, yes, that's correct03:13
Flannelsethk: #ubuntu-offtopic, for the rest of this discussion03:13
Flannelcafuego: you're welcome to join us ;)03:13
sethkwhen you can't prevail in a discussion, scream offtopic03:13
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eck0w00t sudo worked03:13
cafuegocpk2: No, it's set to a string that cannot be the rsult of encryption (so no password will work, ever).03:13
SiliconVipercpk2, the password was probably set to non-useable by means of 'passwd -l' or something, if I were to guess.03:13
sethkanyway, CTho did you put up the error from the link?03:13
CThoseth: <CTho> LjL: ok, undefined reference to nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference(nsIWeakReference**)03:14
Flannelsethk: no.  Itdoesn't belong here.  Is there something stopping you from continuing in -offtopic?  stop making stuff up.03:14
cafuegoeck0: keep in mind that nvidia and ati drivers are prepackaged and require no 3rd party installers.03:14
LjLsethk, uh... no it isn't?!03:14
marcrosoftits probably set to a random password03:14
LjLsethk: there is simply no root password in /etc/shadow03:14
marcrosoftsudp passwd to set it03:14
eck0i figured it out03:14
LjLsudo cat /etc/shadow | grep root03:14
cafuegomarcrosoft: No, it's set to a string that cannot be the rsult of encryption (so no password will work, ever).a03:14
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cliffdI have a /dev/md0 I made with mdadm, just data.. not boot or root and I need to re install... what do I need to do to preserve that raid set?03:14
sethkLjL, depends on which install options you choose03:14
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CThosethk: ^ sorry03:14
sethkLjL, if you choose the expert install (in the new one the OEM install) the root password is set, just as it is with any other distro03:14
SiliconViperLjL, that'd be the results of 'passwd -l'. Easy to fix, find the counter-argument in man passwd.03:14
marcrosoftcafuego, cannot be a result of encryption?03:14
cafuegomarcrosoft: Yes, the encrypted root password ona  default desktop install is '*'.03:15
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cafuegomarcrosoft: None of the used algorithms produce '*' as encrypted result, no matter their input.03:15
JaredHey guys, I tried to do a damnsmalllinux dual boot with ubuntu, and for some reason once i got it installed, it wont show up on grub, it just completely wont show ubuntu in the bootloader, and takes me straight to dsl03:16
cafuegomarcrosoft: Ergo, no password can be used to login to that account, as authentication will always fail.03:16
ChippyHey, installing the nvidia driver on Ubuntu (32 bit), on http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html I want which version of the driver?03:16
SiliconVipercafuego, which is what happens when you lock an account via passwd. Whoever orginally started this can reverse it with 'passwd -u root';03:16
marcrosoftcafuego, i see..03:16
sethkJared, you isntalled another grub, and it is using another config file03:16
marcrosoftcafuego, the point is that you have to set it... if you want to switch user to root...03:16
Jaredack....okay so how do i fix that?03:16
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SiliconViper*eats dinner*03:16
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LjLSiliconViper: i'm not saying it's hard to fix (and i personally don't see a need to "fix" it anyway) - just countering the suggestion that the root password is set to random characters by the standard Ubuntu installer. it's not - the hash is simply set to "!"03:16
sethkSiliconViper, that's true I think for the default install options, but not, as I said, with other install option choices.03:16
LjLsethk: ok, not to random characters though03:16
sethkLjL, true03:17
cafuegomarcrosoft: only if you somehow think 'su ' is a better way of doing things than 'sudo -s'.03:17
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Jaredhey sethk i'll brb going to an irc client that i can actually use03:17
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Chippywow, so no one here is helping me03:17
Flannel!tell Chippy about nvidia03:17
sethkChippy, lots of traffic.  what did you ask?03:17
cafuegoChippy: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx03:17
marcrosofti perfer to know weather or not i cannot induce root based commands.... (root on the PS1) ... and i dont like typing sudo all the time.. :)03:17
cafuegoChippy: No need to downlaod stuff from nvidia.com03:18
marcrosoftcafuego, ^03:18
cafuegomarcrosoft: Like I said, 'sudo -s'03:18
Chippycafuego: mkay, will try that...03:18
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ramusi got an error when trying to upgrade to edgy eft and after restarting, the boot process stops after 'mounting root file system'...it just brings up a blinking underscore and does nothing else03:19
Jaredsethk, i'm back so anyway I can fix this without having to reinstall?03:19
marcrosoftcafuego, hmm,... never done that command, i expected it not to have the root on PS1... how can i set the password to '*' again?03:19
cpk2whats the difference between su - and sudo -s nothing?03:19
pike_ramus: sweet03:19
sethkJared, you can easily reinstall only grub.03:19
cafuegomarcrosoft: passwd -l root03:19
sethkJared, either with grub-install, or with the grub utility03:19
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xipietotechey....how do i import icon themes?03:19
cpk2i've done sudo bash before but heard in this channel that for some mystic reason you shouldnt do sudo bash03:19
JaredEh, keep in mind i'm 12, how do i do the grub-install, I've never tried to dual boot and thats why i'm having problmes03:19
cafuegomarcrosoft: if you want to process roots login scripts, use 'sudo -i' (that DOES mean apps that need $DISPLAY won't run - but then, they don't on 'su -' either)03:20
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marcrosoftcafuego, cool, only problem is sudo remembers you typed the password recently... thats kind of a security issue dont you agree?... can this be changed03:20
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pike_ramus: can you boot in whatever theyre calling single user in grub? recovery mode?03:20
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ramusnot sure, how do you do that03:20
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sethkcpk2, well, _if_ you shouldn't do su, then you shouldn't do sudo bash either.  That's part of why the sudo argument is so dumb, because instead of making it so there is a root password and you have to know it (plus your own), it makes it so you can be root by only knowing your own password.03:20
cafuegomarcrosoft: it only remembers it for 10 minutes, but yes, you can change this.03:20
marcrosoftcafuego, i don't typically run gui apps with root03:20
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xipietotechey....how do i import icon themes? anyone?03:21
CThosethk: undefined reference to nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference(nsIWeakReference**)03:21
marcrosoftcafuego, but if you use root and walk away from your computer.. someone could open with root03:21
cafuegomarcrosoft: Check man sudoers for 'timestamp_timeout'03:21
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sethkCTho, let me see where that appears.03:22
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marcrosoftcafuego, guess its not too big of a deal where my computer is... do you know where to change that option?03:22
CThosethk: modules/libpref is where the build dies03:22
cafuegomarcrosoft: That's a moot point, as anyone with physical access can reboot with init=/bin/sh03:22
greg_hi ya'all has anyone gotten cinerella to compile on edgy?03:22
greg_cinelerra that is03:22
cafuegomarcrosoft: on 'sudo visudo' add timestamp_timeout=0 to the Defaults line03:23
marcrosoftcafuego, i am not familiar with init=/bin/sh ... is this a way to get the local root password or something03:23
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cafuegomarcrosoft: it boots the machine straight into a root shell.03:23
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Flannelgreg_: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support03:23
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matthew_wHey uh03:23
greg_Flannel...ok thanks03:24
GTroy_how do I add myself to the sudoers file?  sudo addgroup myname admin won't work03:24
sethkCTho, it's definitely not in binutils, I just checked the source.03:24
sethkCTho, I'll see if I can find where it is, rather than only where it isn't.03:24
CThosethk: it's a gecko string03:24
tonyyarussoI'm having trouble with X failing to start with Intel integrated 845G graphics chipset - text console is fine; X error output complains about not finding BIOS video modes; any ideas?03:24
GTroy_I'm totally locked out of root priveleges03:24
CThosethk: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey if you want to search03:24
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Squirrelswhats a good program for using an ipod?03:24
jared2012sethk check your pm please03:24
GTroy_Squirrels gtkpod03:24
CThosethk: the concern was, the new linker/compiler version can't build moz03:24
sethkCTho, I don't know what you mean by a gecko string.  It's aun undefined linker symbol.03:24
pike_GTroy_: sudo gedit /etc/group find the admin group and add the username you want like group::user1,user203:25
CThosethk: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=getweakreference03:25
GTroy_I cannot sudo03:25
sethkCTho, well, first of all, case is significant in these symbols03:25
pike_GTroy_: no user account can?03:25
CThosethk: but LXR is case insensitive ;)03:25
GTroy_wait..might be able to03:25
sethkCTho, secondly, that's just a search string for some documentation, has nothing relevant that I can see.03:25
marcrosoftcafuego, how the heck do you do that.. just type init=/bin/sh ??03:25
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CThosethk: well, an example call is /modules/libpref/src/nsPrefBranch.cpp, line 652 -- nsCOMPtr<nsIWeakReference> tmp = do_GetWeakReference(weakRefFactory);03:25
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ramuspine_: same thing happened with single and rescue03:26
CThosethk: and i guess it is defined at /xpcom/glue/nsWeakReference.cpp, line 125 -- nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference( nsIWeakReference** aInstancePtr )03:26
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sethkCTho, nothing there can possibly be related to the compiler/linker version.03:27
CThosethk: you'd think so,but you'd be wrong - there have been cases in the past where compilers break things03:27
sethkCTho, I didn't say the compiler can't break things.  I said the compiler can't cause that error.03:28
sethkCTho, and it cannot.03:28
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CThosethk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35315003:28
pike_ramus: you have a livecd?03:28
xipietotechey....how do i import icon themes? anyone?03:28
sethkCTho, that's completely unrelated to your error.03:29
sethkCTho, unless what you gave me isn't the real error03:29
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sethkCTho, that's about a crash during compilation.03:29
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CThosethk: ... that's what I get.  undefined reference, ld returned 1, make quits03:30
sethkCTho, by the way, when you get that error, you can recompile in that part of the tree.  the error is random and rarely happens multiple times.03:30
sethkCTho, yes, I know, and that has nothing to do with the url you pointed me to.03:30
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sethkCTho, well, not nothing, but it's indirect03:30
CThosethk: how do you know?03:30
sethkCTho, because I've built it.03:30
sethkCTho, with 4.1.103:31
thoris there a way to erase a cdrw in nautilus?03:31
sethkCTho, now, I built my own gcc, which is probably part of the reason I see different behavior.03:31
MadCowBoyxipietotec, Usually, download the icon package, and untar it into your .icons directory of your home folder (its a "hidden" folder, make sure your file browser enables show hidden files")03:31
sethkCTho, and I do have a couple of programs that gcc 4.1.0 clobbers, but not 4.1.1.  That doesn't make it impossible, but unlikely.03:31
MadCowBoyTHats just one way though03:31
CThosethk: i'm actually building with gcc-4.003:32
CThobecause that was the first thing I tried - using a less-bleeding-edge compiler03:32
SiliconViperSo if root gets 'permission denied' when attempting to delete a file, the next course of action would be....?03:32
ramusi tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?03:32
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pike_SiliconViper: what file? not on ntfs/windows partition right?03:33
sethkCTho, building with anything .0 is often more bleading edge03:33
absenthis there a way from the command line to restart the audio system without rebooting the computer?03:33
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sethkCTho, often someone brings out a new major version, and then the next few minor versions fix a lot of problems.03:33
SiliconViperpike_, of course not.03:33
SiliconViperJust a file in /var03:33
xipietotecMadCowBoy: thankya! =)03:33
sethkCTho, no doubt the 4.0.1, 4.0.2, etc., are fixes, but there are more fixes in the 4.# later versions03:33
MadCowBoynp let me know how it goes, depending on the packaging, sometimes it can be imported directly through the theme manager...03:34
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absenthcommand line for restarting I assume Alsa on dapper03:34
SiliconViperabsenth, which audio system?03:34
SiliconViper /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart03:35
absenththat might do it, thanks.03:35
sethkCTho, on several occasions I've been able to get rid of similar problems by installing the 4.1.1 compiler, building it, installing it, then building it _again_, so that I build 4.1.1 _with_
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sethkCTho, rebuild binutils also with
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sethkCTho, not guaranteed to work, by any means, probably at best a 50/50 shot, but worth a try.03:35
GameboyHippoHas anyone been successful in getting tdfx cards running in Edgy?  My Voodoo 3 3000 restarts X when Gnome loads.03:35
CThoi dont want to have to rebuild my compiler03:35
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eck0hey how do i mount another hdd03:36
eck0when i try to mount mine it says unable to mount etc gonna see if i can do it another way03:37
wickedpuppyeck0, what command did you type ?03:37
sethkeck0, be root03:37
eck0i used the gui03:37
sethkeck0, so try with sudo03:37
eck0whats the command to mount a drive?03:37
temperedhow do I change the ip address from DHCP to a static one?  it's a brand new Ubuntu install03:37
wickedpuppysudo mount devicename mountdirectory03:38
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GameboyHippo@tempered edit /etc/network/interfaces03:38
wickedpuppyunless its fat32 or ntfs then you got to have -t03:38
temperedthanks GameboyHippo, is there a special format to type stuff in?03:39
eck0ya uts btfs03:39
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GameboyHippoLet me pull up mine you can use as a template... brb03:39
wickedpuppybtfs .... thats i can't help ... never heard of btfs .. only ntfs03:39
Chippyhello there.  I had the nvidia driver installed, but it wasn't working, and someone in here suggested I just use nvidia-glx.  However, I am still getting an error saying that the X module and the kernel module have different versions.  CAn anyone help me out?03:40
eck0i miss typed03:40
wickedpuppyeck0, sudo mount -t ntfs devicename mountdirectory03:40
ChippyI ran the nvidia driver installer with --uninstall, so it shouldn't be a problem now...03:40
eck0how do i know the device name?03:40
wickedpuppyeck0, dmesg03:40
ramusi tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?03:41
eck0so sudo -t ntfs dmesg /dev/hdb03:41
wickedpuppyeck0, no no .... dmesg is a command03:41
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wickedpuppyhaaa :P03:41
temperedhow do I use sudo to edit a file?03:42
MadCowBoyChippy try asking in #ubuntu-xgl03:42
GameboyHippo@Chippy, I had that problem too...  I don't think it uninstalls cleanly.03:42
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CThotempered: sudo editor filename, where editor is whatever editor you want to use03:42
GameboyHippo@tempered sudo gedit filename03:42
MadCowBoytempered  : sudo gedit filename03:42
ChippyMadCowBoy: why xgl?  this has absolutly nothing to do with xgl03:42
totall_6_7tempered: sudo gedit filename03:42
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wickedpuppyso you know its /dev/hdb ... can't be /dev/hdb though .. you are mounting a partition .. so its likely /dev/hdb1 or something like that03:42
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pike_eck0: i normally type sudo fdisk -l  to find device and then you probably want to add an option like: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mount/point03:42
MadCowBoymore video cardy stuff03:42
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ChippyGameboyHippo: how did you solve it?  PS: I had this problem even before I uninstalled and such, just running the nvidia driver install caused a version mismatch03:43
eck0:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs dmesg /dev/hdb03:43
eck0mount: special device dmesg does not exist03:43
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Chippyhello there.  I had the nvidia driver installed, but it wasn't working, and someone in here suggested I just use nvidia-glx.  However, I am still getting an error saying that the X module and the kernel module have different versions.  CAn anyone help me out?03:43
ChippyI ran the nvidia driver installer with --uninstall, so it shouldn't be a problem now...03:43
pike_eck0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions03:43
jared2012does anyone know the kernel number for the latest dapperkernel?03:43
CThosethk: well it happens reliably, every time i build, same error, same spot03:44
sethkCTho, with 4.1.1?03:44
CThono, 4.0.403:44
Chippycan anyone help me with getting my nvidia drivers working please?03:45
sethkCTho, ok, that's possible, since I haven't built with that version.03:45
sethkCTho, why do you need to build mozilla, again?  I forgot what you said.03:45
eck0need to reset brb03:46
sethkCTho, ok.  has to be mozilla?  can't use any other browser?03:46
Chippycan anyone help me get the nvidia drivers working?03:46
CThosethk: well, seeing as i'm a mozilla developer, i would certainly prefer to be building mozilla03:46
temperedhow do I edit the interfaces file to have a static ip?03:46
sethkCTho, ok, that makes sense.  :)03:46
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sethkCTho, I'll try a build tomorrow on my work box, see if I get what you are seeing.03:47
brosnanCTho: what are you having trouble with?03:47
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CThobrosnan: hey03:47
CThobrosnan: building trunk SM in edgy03:47
fluvvellChippy, have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?03:47
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CThobrosnan: ajschult's guess was bug 35315003:47
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brosnanCTho: ah, ok03:48
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MadCowBoytempered: mine has tehese lines (among others)  address
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ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!03:49
CThobrosnan: i'm assuming you're also brosnan on mosnet03:49
temperedMadCowBoy: in place of: auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp ?03:49
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__mikemI guess that was a bit premature, but who ever responds, NIcole appeared to be spamming at first03:49
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Chippycan anyone help me get my nvidia drivers working properly?03:49
Mastastealthwuts wrong chippy?03:49
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wickedpuppyChippy, pardon me .. but have you read what fluvvell said above ?03:50
nalioth__mikem: ?03:50
MadCowBoyChippy, see what fluvvell said03:50
sixthzhey, can anyone help me?03:50
__mikemnicole, nicole appeared to be spamming03:50
Chippywickedpuppy: where?03:50
sixthzi kinda screwed up my ubuntu03:50
__mikembut she stopped when I shouted !ops03:50
sixthzwith aiglx03:50
sbcl3i just installed via the graphical installer on a Live CD. It didn't ask me on which hard drive's MBR i wanted grub (it automatically put it on /dev/hdc0). How do I install these files to the MBR of /dev/sda0?03:50
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sixthzor brayl03:50
wickedpuppyChippy, looks up ...03:50
brosnanCTho: of course03:50
__mikemnalioth I mean03:50
Chippywickedpuppy: you mean before I left and came back?  I'm on another box now03:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:50
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Chippyohh, I see03:51
Chippymissed that :)03:51
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xipietotecis there some way to modify which buttons gnome uses to magnify?03:51
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sbcl3i just installed via the graphical installer on a Live CD. It didn't ask me on which hard drive's MBR i wanted grub (it automatically put it on /dev/hdc0). How do I install these files to the MBR of /dev/sda0?03:52
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shriphaniguys vlc is a bit toooo bright03:52
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Chippyokay, tried dpkg-reconfigure, no luck03:53
GemquistI'm about ready to trash my xp box.... but I don't want to have to reinstall everything. Anyway to import some of my windows registry to ubuntu?03:53
Gemquist:P Not necessarily the registry.03:54
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lotusleafGemquist: I used a sledge hammer on my windows CD, no need for backups03:54
sixthzhello, i fucked up my other user with brayl(sp), so whenever it tries to load with gnome, gnome crashes, what can i do?03:54
wickedpuppypardon me Gemquist i don't normally laugh at people asking for help03:54
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MadCowBoyWhoa Gemquist let me know how that works out for you...03:54
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Chippymkay, so I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, but am getting a version mismatch between the nvidia kernel module and the x module.  any help?03:55
lotusleafGemquist: of course, you could also play jumprope on a WindowsCD03:55
Chippytried dpkg-reconfigure, no luck03:55
DBOsixthz, log in to safe mode in gnome and remove whatever you added to have it autostart03:55
jshamash66In ubuntu, is there an equivalent to the windows "net send" command?03:55
GemquistI prefer pigeon.03:55
sixthzDBO, tried that, it doesnt load03:55
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sixthzit crashes03:55
GemquistMark... Pull!03:55
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DBOsixthz, xgl or aiglx?03:55
lotusleafGemquist: an angel just got its wings03:56
sixthzwith brayl or something like that03:56
DBOsixthz, sudo mv /usr/bin/beryl /usr/bin/beryl.hackyhackhack03:56
Chippyany suggestions on getting my nvidia driver working?03:56
__mikemDBO theres a troll in ubuntu+1 and hes driving several people crazy03:56
DBOunfortunately I have no power there __mikem03:56
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xipietotecis there some way to modify which buttons gnome uses to magnify?03:56
MastastealthChippy, you trying to use Beryl?03:56
sixthzDBO, now, to try and relog?03:57
elriahHi all.  How would I schedule a task in ubuntu 6.06?  i.e., I have a script I want to run every hour.03:57
DBOsixthz, you got it03:57
sixthzthanks, brb03:57
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm03:57
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jshamash66is there an equivalent to the windows "net send" command in Ubuntu?03:57
wickedpuppyelriah, cron03:57
shriphaniumm anyone who has bightness issues with vlc ?03:57
ChippyMastastealth: well, I COULD... if X would even START... which it isn't03:57
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs03:57
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elriahHey tnx.03:57
Mastastealthok, did you install it via NVIDIA's script or apt-get?03:57
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Chippytried nvidia's script first03:58
Chippythat iddn't work03:58
_nicolaswhen running syslinux /dev/sda1, syslinux complains of being unable to find mcopy, what dpkg trick can i use to see which package contains mcopy ?03:58
Chippythen I tried apt get after running the script's uninstall03:58
Chippyneither works03:58
MadCowBoyChippy dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work out for you? did you try?03:58
Chippytried it03:58
Chippyno luck03:58
sproingieconsidering how typically windows messenger is disabled, i don't think there's a "net send" equivalent for windows anymore03:58
Mastastealthok, the error ir kernel mismatch correct?03:58
CThowhat package is the "human" theme in?03:58
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ChippyMastastealth: it's a version mismatch between the nvidia kernel module and X module03:59
darnell_err, what happen to limewire, it use to be good03:59
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Mastastealthyou're going to want to use amaranth's nvidia drivers if you want to use beryl.03:59
sixthz/q DBO03:59
DBOChippy, you need to disable the nvidia kernel module in the linux restricted modules03:59
darnell_anyone know a better p2p program?03:59
Mastastealthyou know how to use nano?03:59
sixthzdidnt work03:59
ChippyDBO: how?03:59
ChippyMastastealth: yes03:59
shriphanidarnell_, gtk-gnutella03:59
jshamash66sproingie: ok, thanks. i was just curious03:59
sixthzDBO, its a red diamond that is loading that is doing the problem03:59
darnell_is that in synaptic?03:59
shriphanidarnell_, yes03:59
DBOsixthz, sudo mv /usr/bin/beryl-manager /usr/bin/beryl-manager.hackyhackhack03:59
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)03:59
MastastealthChippy, are you using Edgy though>04:00
darnell_easy to use?04:00
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mezokoI have a wireless card and ubuntu has loaded a module for it, but the module doesn't work and I wish to use ndiswrapper04:00
darnell_not problems with connection?04:00
flodineanyone use eterm here04:00
fluvvellChippy, - when you reply, can you quote at least one person you are replying to, I missed your reply04:00
mezokohow can I remove the module ubuntu is loading?04:00
ChippyMastastealth: nope04:00
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Chippyfluvvell: yeah sorry, by the time I saw your comment I thought you would have forgotten04:00
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fluvvellChippy, no just on and off as work gets busy.  replys that quote leave the console flashing04:01
Chippyfluvvell: gotcha.  any suggestions?04:01
DBOsixthz?  you saw the command I gave you right?04:01
sixthzDBO, which one?04:01
sixthzto move the file?04:01
fluvvellChippy, what exactly happened with the reconfigure? did your x resume ok?04:01
DBOsixthz, sudo mv /usr/bin/beryl-manager /usr/bin/beryl-manager.hackyhackhack04:01
Chippyfluvvell: no, but I selected the nvidia driver again... nv works great04:02
fluvvellChippy, ok so - solved? or further probs?04:02
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Chippyfluvvell: no, nvdia driver doesn't work.04:02
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darnell_gtk-gnutella is the same server as limewire04:02
runeI cant get my nvidia-glx-config up and running04:02
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slyphonanyone had luck getting ubuntu-6.06 installed on a server with megaraid?04:03
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mezokoHow can I backlist a module?04:03
fluvvellChippy, ok so what does  dpkg -l |grep nvidia      give you ?04:03
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sixthzDBO, no go im afraid04:03
sixthzstill loads it04:03
macdslyphon, sure on Dell's04:03
slyphonmacd: did you have to do anything special?04:03
MastastealthChippy, have you tried uninstalling the drivers via the script (sudo ./nvidia-installer --uninstall) and then removing any apt-get drivers (apt-get remove nvidia*)04:03
macdinsert cd press enter watch install ;P04:04
DBOsixthz, run this command `which beryl-manager`04:04
slyphonmacd: driver disks or whatnot?04:04
DBO(no backticks)04:04
slyphonmacd: ah, ok04:04
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runewhen I run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, I get the following error:04:04
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Mastastealththat should clear it all out, and then you can "apt-get install nvidia-gx" and it should get all the latest stuff again04:04
macdwhats the specific controller?04:04
Chippyfluvvell: nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings04:04
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ChippyMastastealth: I did the uninstall, but not the remove nvidia04:04
mrbond82Anyone know why the psc 2610 isn't in the add a printer list for ubunty edgy?04:04
ramusi tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?04:04
slyphonSAS 1068-1R LSI-Logic04:04
slyphonhp 8 port sas/sata controller04:04
ChippyMastastealth: I'm guessing I should?04:05
runeError: your X configuration has been altered04:05
Mastastealthits worth a try04:05
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CThowhat package is the "human" theme in?04:05
ChippyMastastealth: what packages did you mean then? nvidia*?04:05
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DBOsixthz, you arent moving the executables like I told you...04:05
macdslyphon, ahh thats a bit different chipset than I use, most of the megaraids are for scsi use, or  82801CA04:06
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sixthzi did exactly what you wrote me to do04:06
fluvvellChippy, brb -04:06
Mastastealthnvidia* should select nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common04:06
DBOsixthz, did you get an error?04:06
sixthzi am new to ubuntu04:06
ChippyMastastealth: I know, should I uninstall those?04:06
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slyphonmacd: we have a sysadmin that doesn't know linux from belly-button-lint, and his taste in servers is reprehensible04:06
Chippyfluvvell: mkay, thanks04:06
macdslyphon, typical ;)04:06
smotangHey, in the normal UBuntu install where abouts in the filesystem is Gimp located?04:07
ChippyMastastealth: done04:07
macdwhen they start calling themselves system architects they start buying better equipment ;)04:07
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ChippyMastastealth: now what should I install to get nvidia running?04:07
Mastastealthok, now just try reinstalling nvidia-glx04:07
slyphonmacd: :D04:07
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Mastastealthsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx04:07
DBOsixthz, sudo dpkg -r --force-depends beryl-manager04:07
slyphonmacd: yeah, we have a *scary* competent guy that's started working now, and he's buying Suns04:07
Fenix-Darki wanna get kde on ubuntoo, how would i do that?04:07
mrbond82fenix-dark -- check kubuntu04:07
slyphonmacd: he's 2600's sysadmin04:07
macdslyphon, nice to see he knows where its at04:07
sixthzDBO, that didnt gave me any output, should it?04:08
ChippyMastastealth: mkay installing04:08
slyphonmacd: indeed :)04:08
Fenix-Darkmrbond82, so i need to delete ubuntu since i want kde?04:08
slyphonmacd: he kicks ass04:08
DBOsixthz, what happens if you sudo -s ?04:08
DBOyou arent on an admin account04:08
dekadjusting brightness/constrast in Kaffeine doesn't work. Any idea how to fix it?04:08
macdIm partial to dell for intel based servers as they support linux, but the new sun cool threads are very nice.04:08
slyphonmacd: yeah, we're looking to use coolthreads as soon as they release the hypervisor04:09
DBOsixthz, ok switch to ctrl alt f1 (henceforth called tty1) and log in as your normal (broken) user04:09
DBOsixthz, you can use ctrl alt f7 to get back into X04:09
macdslyphon, indeed xen on those = the rox04:09
sixthzDBO, i cant, whenever i log it, it automaticlly goes to gnome04:09
slyphonmacd: as we're a linux shop (currently centos :P) but want to transition to something less puke-inducing04:09
slyphonmacd: yeah, xen3 is teh awes0em04:09
DBOsixthz, you'll see what I mean after pressing ctrl alt f104:09
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DBOsixthz, it wont go to gnome04:09
slyphonmacd: centos is so fucking retarded, it's like, indescribable04:10
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macdweve moved to ubuntu for the most part, but still use a lot of scientific linux and rhes04:10
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DBOslyphon, watch the swearing please04:10
slyphonDBO: sorry04:10
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ChippyMastastealth: installed, testing04:10
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macdI wish someone would change the livecd irc user to something other than ubuntu.04:10
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slyphonmacd: it's taken so long but we're finally gonna transition to ubuntu04:11
ChippyMastastealth: same thing :(  kernel module has version 1.0-7174, X module has 1.0-876204:11
slyphonmainly because of the sun guarantee04:11
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Mastastealthhere Chippy, check out this page: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper#HOW_TO_UNINSTALL_THE_DRIVER_.28FROM_METHOD_2.2904:11
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ChippyMastastealth: will try that, thanks04:12
Mastastealthi have to go, good luck on that. I know I've had it plenty of times, but its relatively simple to fix...once you figure it out :P04:12
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Chippyfluvvell: back yet?04:13
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fluvvellChippy, sorry working with a client for now, will have to come back to you later.04:15
Chippyfluvvell: no worries, good luck have fun04:15
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fluvvellChippy, thx04:15
Chippyanyone else willing to help me get my nvidia drivers working?04:15
mezokoHow do you black list a module in ubuntu?04:15
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temperedhow do I reboot the network once I've edited the interfaces file?04:16
noxxlegnome network manager no longer recognizes my wireless card. nor does wpa gui04:16
noxxlethis happened after a failed wireless connect04:16
MadCowBoytempered, if your using net-work-manager, just deactivate activate04:17
Bagoorhow can I mount everything which is in fstab ?04:17
smotangWhen configuring a package for making how do you edit the pgk_config_path variable?04:17
mezokoHow do I BlackList a Module?!04:17
noxxlei installed that thing from automatix04:17
andyHow do i get a .wmv to play on my ubuntu?04:17
MadCowBoyotherwise, test your changes by restarting gnome (swat I would do)04:17
noxxlei did04:17
xipietotecnoxxle: try wlassistant or learn how to use iwconfig and dhclient =)04:18
phargleandy: which porn site?04:18
andynot a porn site04:18
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mezokowoudl someone tell me how to blacklist a module on ubuntu!04:18
hackel_Anyone familiar with pptp?  I'm trying to connect to a windows network, and keep getting: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests.  Does this just mean my server is down?04:18
temperedMadCowBoy: is there a shell command to do it?04:18
Fenix-Dark...so the only way to get to use kde is to delete ubuntu and install kubunto?04:18
totall_6_7andy: you can try vlc04:18
Chippymezoko: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common change DISABLED_MODULES to include yours04:19
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lotusleafmezoko: search forums for ipv6 blacklist for an idea04:19
andyI have made some movies at school using movie maker but i can't view them using firefox04:19
xipietotecFenix-Dark: I have both kubuntu and ubuntu installed on my computer04:19
Bagoorandy, install vlc04:19
mezokoChippy, that doesn't seem to work04:19
cliffdI saw somewhere that 6.10 is out... is that true?04:19
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Chippymezoko: dang, no ideas then04:19
andywhere can I gel that04:19
MadCowBoycliff, just a release candidate04:19
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lotusleafcliffd: 26th is the release day for Edgy, /join #ubuntu+104:19
xipietoteccliffd: in 3 days its out04:19
cliffdSorry all, i just saw the RC post04:19
Fenix-Darkxipietotec, so you can't have gnome and kde on the same ubuntu?04:19
totall_6_7andy do you know synaptic04:19
andyI am very new at this I know it a little04:20
xipietotecthe release candidate (read: Final release minus some language packs) is out now04:20
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ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE04:20
xipietotecFenix-Dark: Yes you can, kubuntu is KDE for ubuntu, you can't run them at the same time04:20
cliffdcan I do an inplace upgrade and get 6.10 from 6.06 ?04:20
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mezokook how do I add ndiswrapper to startup04:21
totall_6_7its in synaptic or someone here can show you the command to apt-get it (what ever the commannd is)04:21
mezokoChippy, I typed int he wrong module :P04:21
Chippymezoko: hehe :)04:21
cliffdFenix-Dark: you can have kde and gnome and xcfre on a single install, just add them from apt.04:21
lotusleafFenix-Dark: and a whole bunch of other window managers, and desktop environments too.. like blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, xfce, enlightenment, and many more04:21
Fenix-Darkxipietotec, then why do you have ubuntu and kubuntu installed if you can have them both on 1 ubuntu installation04:21
xipietoteccliffd: you can configure synaptic to do a dist-upgrade yes.04:21
cliffdxipietotec: thanks.04:21
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cliffdxipietotec: is that as "legit" as a fresh install?04:21
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xipietotecFenix-Dark: Kubuntu is KDE, ubuntu is Gnome.04:21
__mikemI recomend xfce, kde, or for you minimalist types, fluxbox04:21
sixthzDBO, thanks alot04:21
DBOsixthz, got it fixed?04:22
sixthzDBO, any idea how to fix it tho?04:22
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sixthzi mean to make the brayl to work04:22
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sixthzberyl *04:22
DBOsixthz, I need to know more about your system04:22
xipietotecFenix-Dark: They're not 2 separate operating systems, their the same core operating system with the gnome or kde suite of applications and windows management setup installed.04:22
sixthzi want that cool cube effect :)04:22
Fenix-Darkxipietotec, but lotusleaf said you can have blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, xfce, enlightenment and others on one ubuntu04:22
xipietotecif you just want the programs from KDE you can install them manually.04:22
DBOsixthz, and have you managed to get back into your normal account?04:22
sixthzDBO, mind if ill PM you the info?04:22
DBOsixthz, go ahead =)04:23
sixthzi am on it now04:23
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_goofy_in the near future i plan to create a file server i was wondering what would be the best distro to do such without limiting to the ubuntu family04:23
xipietotecFenix: Yes, it's possible, the kde for ubuntu is kubuntu04:23
xipietotecI'm using beryl right now.04:23
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Fenix-Darkxipietotec, i know that they're 2 different graphical thingies, but you're really confusing me now04:23
marc_OK....wirless...PCI cards..........on Drapper....I'm having trouble...04:23
andyCan someone explain to me the synaptic package manager to me?04:23
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conreytandy: sure.04:24
marc_anyone who can help...?04:24
bun-bunFenix-Dark# ubuntu and kubuntu is the same OS.  the distinction is ubuntu defaults to gnome and kubuntu defaults to kde04:24
effie_jayxandy: :) beautifull to see04:24
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xipietotecFenix: All kde, fluxbox,etc. are is a windows manager, and often application suites, you can install as many as you want, and it doesn't effect the files of your operating system04:24
hikenbootcan anyone point me to where I can get testing apt sources for ubuntu 6.10?04:24
bun-bunFenix-Dark# you can install either one and make changes to it later04:24
conreyt!synaptic > andy04:24
effie_jayxmarc_ shoot away and I'll see ...04:24
xipietotecit's the same OS, just with different windows managers, some will add new programs though.04:24
Arrickguys about a year or so ago, someone mentioned a court case about a guy refusing the MS eula on a box, and installing Linux instead, and getting his money for the WIndows license back, anybody got any idea for the link to that information?04:24
lotusleafhikenboot: #ubuntu+104:24
Fenix-Darkxipietotec, ok, then why do YOU have kubuntu and ubuntu installed if you can use both on one installation?04:25
andyWhat does it do?04:25
conreytArrick: good luck I tried it as well.....04:25
ramusi tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?04:25
effie_jayxandy: it installs software that is intended to run well on your OS...04:25
marc_effie.....seems like i can install the Windows version of my cards drivers...but it still doesn't recognize the hardware....what can I do?04:25
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xipietotecFenix-Dark: Kubuntu and ubuntu are not separate OS's, I installed ubuntu (which is gnome) and then typed sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop04:25
Arrickconreyt, I just want the link04:25
xipietotecand it installed KDE =)04:25
effie_jayxandy: :)04:25
Fenix-Darkxipietotec, ok, but before you said you dual boot kubuntu and ubuntu04:26
xipietotecThey're not set up as separate partitions04:26
DBOsixthz, if you are PMing me im not getting it, you need to register with nickserv or just meet me in #DBO04:26
Chippyfluvvell: just an FYI that I got it working, no idea how04:26
xipietotecFenix-Dark: no, I never said I dual boot. =)04:26
effie_jayxmarc_ what are you tryining to install?04:26
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xipietotecI just switch sessions between kde and gnome04:26
marc_wireless card..PCI04:26
xipietotecI said I installed both kubuntu and ubuntu on the same pc. =)04:27
effie_jayxmarc_... barnd?04:27
temperedhow do I restart the network now that I've made changes to "interfaces" file?  ( from shell )04:27
Fenix-Darkxipietotec, u said "<xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: I have both kubuntu and ubuntu installed on my computer"  i thought ubuntu and kubuntu are 2 separate operating systems, one with kde and one with gnome?  how can you run two separate operating systems at once?04:27
xipietotecnot as separate partitions though.04:27
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fluvvellChippy, great04:27
WiseOddhi all. I need some help with my firewall.... dunno how to configure it decently...04:27
effie_jayxon la laptop?04:27
bun-buntempered# sudo /etc/init.d/network restart04:27
xipietotecFenix-Dark: They're not separate operating systems.04:27
marc_nope desktop04:27
temperedthank you04:27
vilefridgHello.  I have a quick question.  When the time comes to upgrade from dapper to edgy, what would be the effects of the distro upgrade?  Will I have to reconfigure RAID, software applications, lose settings, wireless config, etc??  Or will it go pretty smooth?04:27
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Fenix-Darkxipietotec, you're confusing the hell out of me, i'm gonna skip *buntu and install slackware04:27
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BoomStYxvilefridg: It will go about as smooth as silk ;)04:28
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lotusleafFenix-Dark: then you'll want to join that channel then, bye04:28
conreytvilefridg: advertised as smooth as silk ;)04:28
xipietotecFenix-Dark: all kubuntu means is (k+ubuntu) xubuntu (xcfe+ubuntu)04:28
WiseOddany1 know anything about firewalls? I need some help....!04:28
xipietotecthey're not separate operating systems04:28
effie_jayxmarc_:  have you ecked the forums?04:28
MadCowBoyWhats up WiseOdd ?04:29
lotusleafWiseOdd: ask your questions! :) and also check #security04:29
martalliFenix-Dark: Al the *buntus are built on the same OS. YOu could look at them, as specialized install disks that all start with eparate dektop evironments04:29
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vilefridgBoomStYx, conreyt:  That's good to hear :)  Still expected for October?04:29
martalliapt-get a few packsges, and you can add another desktop04:29
NameeaterIf I have installed a new nvidia gfx card to replace an old one, do I need to run anything now to config it?04:29
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effie_jayxmarc_:  gime me the specs and I'll see what I can find... D-link tends to be pretty good on linux04:29
andyHow do i make vlc be the default movie player in firefox?04:29
conreytvilefridg: dunno, I'd check the site....04:29
marc_effie - specs for the D-link card..?04:30
WiseOddmadcowboy: dunno how to configure my firewall properly... im running p2p, but i always seem to totally block everything instead of letting p2p apps go thru...04:30
BoomStYxvilefridg: Yeah, its on the 30th I believe, see, its called 6.10 because 6 as in 06 the year, and 10 as in October, thats how the versioning works04:30
bun-bunFenix-Dark# if you can't figure out the nuances of having one underlying os with multiple window managers despite everyone who has given you info, i'm not sure slackware would even be the right choice for you04:30
xipietotecandy: go to a video file, click properties and configure what it opens with by default04:30
vilefridgBoomStYx, conreyt: thanks :)04:30
effie_jayxmarc_:  uhum04:30
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temperedthere is nothing in the /etc/init.d/network besides more directories how do I restart the network ?04:30
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MadCowBoyare you using a router?04:31
marc_effie - D-link DWL -G51004:31
Fenix-Darkbun-bun, i'll give it a shot, if i dont like it, i'll try something else04:31
temperedMadCowBoy: me?04:31
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bun-buntempered# try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart04:31
effie_jayxmarc_:  I'm at it04:31
xipietotecFenix-Dark: Errr.....ubuntu is much much easier to install and configure than slackware04:31
MadCowBoyno sorry tempered that was for WiseOdd04:31
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WiseOddmadcowboy: yup, with nat... but until i tried to configure "firestarter" everything was fine... now nothing works..04:31
xipietotecif you find ubuntu confusing....you will be lost in slackware04:31
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marc_I've downloaded the RT61 - Firmware...but haven't figured out how to Compile it yet.04:31
temperedbun-bun: that worked, but I didn't see a script there when I looked :/04:32
bun-bunFenix-Dark# best of luck to you in ##slackware.  may i suggest you ask the type of questions you asked here in the same way you asked here in ##slackware04:32
MadCowBoyBtw tempered how are you making out?04:32
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temperedIt restrated now with a static IP, thank you guys04:32
johny5Can anyone help me with OpenOffice Writer?  Whenever I open up a document with a table that is more than half a page long, it only shows the last portion of the table and I can't view the rest of it.04:32
Fenix-Darkbun-bun, sure04:32
andyWhat if the movie is embedded on the webpage. how canI get it to play with vlc?04:32
bun-buntempered# some distros it's /etc/init.d/network  i just noticed it's called "networking" in ubuntu04:32
WiseOddis there any firewall apps which would be more similar to windows based firewalls? i have no problem using them... :)04:32
MadCowBoyWiseOdd, I'm not familiar with firestarter, what is it?04:32
WiseOddfirewall in basic package in ubuntu...04:33
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Fenix-Darkbun-bun, anyways, i thought linux was linux, how could one linux be harder than another?04:33
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effie_jayxmarc_:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270046&highlight=D-link+DWL+-G51004:33
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effie_jayxmarc_:   check it out... and see04:33
marc_I will give it a go....04:33
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WiseOddim open to suggestions for other firewalls....04:33
rbilWiseOdd, tell me what you need a firewall for04:33
xipietotecbun-bun: LoL!04:34
MadCowBoyWiseOdd, I find it just as easy to use a router based firewall, but by using a software based on as well, can create diffuculties in you configuration and what not, usually choose one and go with that,04:34
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effie_jayxmarc_:   let me know04:34
marc_Effie...I will..04:34
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WiseOddwell.. to stop the bad guys getting into my system i suppose... :)04:34
lotusleafWiseOdd: you're not going to find an application based software firewall like Zone Alarm any time soon for Linux. Try Guarddog or Firestarter, both are simple and easy.04:34
rbilyou behind a NAS router?04:34
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xipietotecFenix: Linux is a kernel, distros are built around that kernel for different purposes, some are built to be easy to use04:34
effie_jayxmarc_:   the guy in that post didn't complain so I'm guessing it went well04:34
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xipietotecsome are built for maximum customization, or for specific applications where ease of use (to an average user) is not an issue04:35
xipietotecslackware is one of those...04:35
WiseOddmadcowboy: ok. suppose ur right. 1 should be enough. im just not so comfy with the hardware base firewalls...04:35
rbilLinux IS a firewall, you decide what services you're going to run and hence what ports are open. Don't run services accessable from the outside and you won't have ports open. simple as that.04:35
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jrsimshow do I install new mouse cursors?04:36
CelesteI need an native speaker, - Please!04:36
jrsimsin gnome?04:36
WiseOddrbil: what about multiport  applications like most p2p programs?04:36
Celeste(native to english)04:36
ramusi tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?04:36
bun-bunCeleste# yes?04:36
jbmigelfbil what ports are open in ubuntu by default?04:36
Celestebun-bun, Please help me with a sentence:04:36
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Flanneljbmigel: none04:36
lotusleafrbil: but it's never that simple, you have to forecast the future, a lot of people install software from unofficial repositories, are all of those packages secure? no firewall means any bad application installed which wants to phone home can and will04:36
johny5Anyone know where I might be able to find an OpenOffice help channel?04:37
jbmigelFlannel I cant ssh to an ubuntu box out of the box?04:37
Flanneljbmigel: correct04:37
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bun-bunCeleste# /join #ubuntu-offtopic, i will be happy to help you there04:37
MadCowBoyits not too diffcult, if you've already connecting to thee internet through a router, you should look at the manual for that router if you don't have that handy, search the model number on google04:37
jbmigelFlannel cool04:37
rbillotusleaf, well if you're going to pickup whatever crap is available for download, maybe you have a point?04:37
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Flanneljohny5: #OpenOffice04:37
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WiseOddtbil: im a linux n00b. how would i know the difference between good and bad applications for linux?04:38
xipietotecI think ubuntu should consider making dazuko a permanent part of the distro (as a kernel module) and incorporating a default installed firewall04:38
marc_Effie...looks familiar...I tried the RT61 - firmware yesterday, but I do see on this post you gave me that it's not certain on how to compile this package yet on a AMD64...which I am working on.04:38
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WiseOddrbil: thats why i thought a firewall would be a good idea...04:38
Flannelxipietotec: the kernel is a 'default installed firewall'04:38
rbillotusleaf, but I don't see how a firewall is going to do anything to prevent that04:38
effie_jayxmarc_:  mm ok04:38
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:38
effie_jayxmarc_:  let me see what else I can find04:38
jrsimsanyone know how to install new mouse cursors?04:38
rbilWiseOdd, you're still stuck in windowisms, imho04:38
xipietotecFlannel: Okay, then dazuko then. =)04:39
WiseOddmadcowboy: yeah, i think i will do that...04:39
lotusleafrbil: it happens04:39
marc_Effie..me looking too....04:39
MadCowBoyGood luck, its good to learn as well,04:39
rbillotusleaf, I'm sure all kinds of things happen, I've just never come across anyone yet with that prob.04:39
johny5Flannel, wow, I never would have thought of that one.04:39
WiseOddrbil: as i said, i just switched to linux... im figuring out things as they come, but im new to linux....04:39
johny5Flannel, Thanks!04:39
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WiseOddrbil: so yeah...04:39
lotusleafrbil: when you repair boxes for several years you learn a lot =)04:39
Flannelxipietotec: what's wrong with firestarter?04:39
rbilWiseOdd, it wasn't a put down, I assure you.04:40
Gumbydoes anyone know if it is true that you have to first add a user to the system before you can add them as a samba user?04:40
WiseOddmadcowboy: thx m804:40
[GuS] Hi guys, i have a question... i have latest Kubuntu Edgy RC, and after the last upgrade, i have this problem in keyboard layout conf.: http://www.gdnet.com.ar/downloads/pub/kubuntu/Kubuntu-Edgy-RC.png04:40
lotusleaf[GuS] : #ubuntu+1 for Edgy04:40
xipietotecFlannel: Dazuko is anti-virus, and damned good04:40
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[GuS] sorry..04:40
lotusleaf[GuS] : no problem =)04:40
rbillotusleaf, you'll have to provide me with some realworld example, just haven't seen it and I'm skeptical04:40
Flannelxipietotec: er... that's not what it's website says04:40
[GuS] i've forgot that...04:40
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CThohow do i add more resolutions?04:40
lotusleafrbil: I'm not a lawyer, I don't have to convince a jury =)04:41
Flannelxipietotec: er, maybe it is.  Although it isn't immediately apparent.04:41
xipietotecFlannel: It allows for on-access virus scanning04:41
CThodpkg --reconfigure [somePackage]  ?04:41
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rbillotusleaf, well you made the ascertion that there is such a danger. never mind, to each his own.04:41
xipietotecbut the problem is, since it's a kernel module, unless it's included in the distro it requires custom compiling a kernel...each and every time you upgrade as well04:41
lotusleafrbil: it's not an ascertation, it's a fact :)04:41
xipietotecwhich is just bollocks..04:42
WiseOddrbil: i didnt really take it to be, but this is pretty hard for a newbie... There ARE many ways you have to adjust your thinking too...04:42
effie_jayxmarc_:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200558&highlight=D-link+DWL+-G51004:42
tonyyarussoHow is it possible to be denied permission when root?04:42
bun-bunCTho# you could try dpkg --reconfigure xorg04:42
bun-bunCTho# or you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand04:42
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rbillotusleaf, well I asked for an example of a software program for Linux that does what you suggested. What is it?04:42
Flanneltonyyarusso: something mounted read only, for instance04:42
andyOn VLC, I'm hearing the video but can't see it. What can I do?04:42
effie_jayxmarc_:  he claims to have installed it out of the box04:42
ramusi tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?04:42
lotusleafrbil: /join #security as this is going offtopic =) or #ubuntu-offtopic04:42
WiseOddrbil: but nevertheless, i like what i see, eventho i dont always understand whuts wut..04:43
MadCowBoyandy are you using beryl?04:43
Flannelramus: try #ubuntu+1 for edgy support04:43
andyNot sure04:43
MadCowBoyOh, OK,04:43
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marc_effie...I'm gonna try it again...i just downloaded his ralink drivers cvs20 and I now need to reboot.....I wiil be right back04:43
tonyyarussoFlannel: I got an error back just on one package in an update - "dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute old-pre-removal script: Permission denied"04:43
midtexhey, I need some help with my boot loader04:43
rbilWiseOdd, just that I see so many who have just entered the Linux world from windows, looking for anti-spam, anti-virus, defragging tools, etc. :-)04:43
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MadCowBoyandy, do any other players work for you?04:44
andyHow would i know if i am using beryl?04:44
Flanneltonyyarusso: no idea, dpkg might have some sort of locking thing, or whatnot04:44
tonyyarussoFlannel: In package gzip, Dapper on brand new server install04:44
Flannelandy: if you don't know, you're almost certainly not ;)04:44
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jbmigelis it possible to set the powernowd steps? I think it kicks in a little early04:44
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MadCowBoyright Flannel,04:44
tonyyarussoFlannel: Maybe a bug in the gzip build?04:44
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Flanneltonyyarusso: possible, but unlikely.  You've added the GPG keys for your repository?04:45
andySorry for being new at this. It's just my second day working with ubuntu.04:45
shriphanianyone who can help with vlc04:45
WiseOddrbil: u only get smarter by asking questions... so u have to appear stupid once in a while, if u want to learn :)04:45
tonyyarussoFlannel: They should be added by default during the installation.04:45
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jbmigelandy welcome to linux! hope you enjoy your stay!!04:45
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andyTotem says i don't have a decoder installed.04:45
temperedso now I seem to have Ubuntu installed..  is there a command to get the latest updates?04:45
rbilWiseOdd, I'm always learning, that is why I look so stupid :-)04:45
MadCowBoyandy: I had a hard time viewing WMV movies in vlc, I think I just use mplayer to view wmv's thats what your trying to do right?04:45
Flanneltonyyarusso: Can't hurt to check/readd them04:45
chad_are we allowed to have multiple conversations going at once?04:45
shriphaniandy, what are you tying to play ?04:45
andyI am. I'm trying to convince my school district to go this route for its district computers04:46
tonyyarussoFlannel: Can I pin ubuntu-minimal back to the original off the 6.06.1 disk?04:46
jbmigelchad_ I would answer you but im already talking to someone else04:46
Flanneltempered: in the GUI, update manager will tell you.  Or you can load synaptic package manager and reload/mark upgrades/apply, or you can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:46
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Flannelchad_: yes, you can.04:46
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chad_ok cool - thanks anyway. maybe someone else can04:46
shriphaniFlannel, any idea why vlc goes too bright ?04:46
temperedFlannel: I have no gui installed04:46
Flannelshriphani: I have no GUI, so... I have no idea04:47
lostboyzhi i was wondering what is the package that sends a webcam04:47
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lostboyzonce it is connected and working04:47
Flanneltempered: then the sudo apt-get update/upgrade command04:47
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temperedahh, I see the apt-get stuff now04:47
lostboyzi am not able to send my webcam only to view it on my computer04:47
andyIt is a video made using movie maker. It was downloaded of my website. VLC palys the audio but no video. Totem Movie playerr says I don't have a decoder installed.04:47
shriphaniFlannel, cool04:47
jbmigelchad_ I was kidding man, of course you can talk to as many people as you can keep straight in your head..04:47
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andyfile extension .wmv04:47
shriphaniandy, i am sure it is wmv304:47
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shriphanii got same problems here04:48
Flanneltonyyarusso: pin it back?  I'm not sure, especially ifyou used the liveCD, the alternate CD you could concievably reinstall that from apt-cdrom04:48
MEGALODONI need help setting up my Matrox G400 dual head view04:48
tonyyarussoFlannel: I used the server CD, so no live.04:48
chad_I'll just ask: I've installed Ubuntu Dapper, and every so often after a couple weeks of having it installed my drive label for my fat32 partition gets all garbled. The text on the icon is screwed up, and so is the text beside the drive in Nautilus. right now it says "ion>   </p" and it should say "hda4".04:48
andyMaybe. When I look at the file the extension just has .wmv on it04:48
shriphaniFlannel, how did you kick out you DE. i though apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop removed just a meta package04:48
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Flanneltonyyarusso: ah, then yes... I suppose it would be.  make sure the server CD is a repository (might help to remove the web ones)04:48
tonyyarussoFlannel: Wouldn't it not change anything b/c the version would be lower than installed though?  I know there's some way to do this, but I think it's tedious.04:48
shriphaniandy, play it from console04:49
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lostboyzcan someone help me with an spca5xx driver and a logitech webcam04:49
andyhow do I do that04:49
shriphaniumm open a terminal04:49
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rbilMEGALODON, what help do you need?04:49
MEGALODONCan someone help me setup my Matrox G400 Dual view04:49
jbmigelchad_ thats kinda weird. how do you fix it?04:49
andytype what in the terminal?04:49
shriphaniumm andy navigate to the dir. where you got this file04:50
MEGALODONrbil: I have one monitor enabled.. I can't seem to make the second monitor enabled04:50
Flannelshriphani: I just never installed it to begin with.  You could, if you were looking to, remove some low level X lib, and therefore all of the things that depend on it.04:50
chad_not sure. I googled around but haven't found anything. anybody know?04:50
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shriphanithen vlc file.wmv04:50
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chad_sorry that was to _jbmigel_04:50
rbilMEGALODON, ok, hold on I'm using same card and using dual head now.04:50
jbmigelchad_ are you sure you didnt accidentally edit the icon label?04:50
MEGALODONrbit .. Sweet :D04:50
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chad__jbmigel_ yep. it won't let me edit it anywhere04:51
rbilMEGALODON, are u registered so I can pm you?04:51
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Gumbydoes anyone here know if it is possible to have files created as a specific gid when creating files in a smb mounted directory?04:51
jbmigelchad_ can you look at your /etc/fstab and see if it is labelled properly there04:51
MEGALODONrbil I don't think so.. this is my first time here04:52
[GuS] someone here have Kubuntu edgy?04:52
chad__jbmigel_ yep, it's labeled as /dev/hda404:52
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jbmigelchad_ weird04:52
xplic1ti've just ran ./configure for a program I'm trying to install.  now I'm supposed to run make according to some instructions, but no makefile is found.  any advice please?04:52
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rbildo this ... /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <yourpassword>  and see whether that does it04:52
effie_jayxandy it's ok... welcome to the wonderful world of linux...04:52
marc_Effie....I wish it would have installed out of the Box forme...04:52
rbilyourpassword is all you need to apend to that line04:53
effie_jayxmarc_:  it din't do the trick did it....04:53
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lostboyzdoes anyone here know what the sending mechanism is for the webcam04:53
effie_jayxmarc_:  he did som tweaking though...04:53
lostboyzi can see my webcam but i cannot send it04:53
marc_Effie...still no go...When I tried to reboot...boot up froze at the Network config04:53
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andyThanks effie_jayx.04:53
Arrickhey conreyt you know where you messed up with that whole deal?04:53
andyI feel really lost at times04:53
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G0oWHi everyone04:54
effie_jayxmarc_:  look at the tips he gives...04:54
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rbilMEGALODON, if it returns this: you are now recognized  let me know and I'll pm you04:54
CThodpkg-reconfigure xorg  does not ask me any questions - it just exits04:54
conreytArrick: yes.04:54
tritiumCTho: xserver-xorg04:54
MEGALODON(19:53:11) NickServ: (notice) The nickname [MEGALODON]  is not registered04:54
effie_jayxandy: I have been using ubuntu for a while and I am still lost.. :)04:54
CThotritium: thanks04:54
G0oWhow do i get to adept in ubuntu...my friend was trying to help me install GCC, and he told me to go to adept and search it...04:54
MEGALODONrbil:  this is the message I got04:54
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marc_I just uninstalled the Windows .inf drivers and will try another reboot...and then look at his tips...04:54
effie_jayxmarc_ are you using ndswrapper?04:55
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marc_I did....04:55
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rbilhopefully someone can help u with that. if you have any other way to im, such as thru Gaim or Skype, we can do it that way.04:55
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chad__jbmigel_ thanks!04:55
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G0oWcan anyone tell me how to get to adept?04:55
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melvinhow much time of support will dapper have?04:55
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effie_jayxmarc_ may the source be with you ... :)04:56
MadCowBoyG0oW, Study hard apply yourself, you will get adept.04:56
marc_Thanks Effie...04:56
melvinhow much time of support will dapper have?04:56
G0oWi don't know how to get to it...04:56
MEGALODONrbil: I can add you to my buddies....04:56
rbilMEGALODON, the conversation we may need to have is involved enuf that trying to do it thru a busy channel is hard.04:56
effie_jayxandy: what are you up to knoe?04:56
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effie_jayxandy: what are you up to now?04:56
G0oWmy friend tried to show me using kde but =/04:56
MadCowBoymelvin, 5 years of security and updates as I understand it,04:56
rbilMEGALODON, what im server do u use?04:56
MEGALODONrbil:  I agree04:56
rbilu running Skype?04:57
melvinand edgy only 18 months????04:57
ebrevdohi all.  quick question: i have ubuntu i386 installed right now; but would like to install some amd64 packages as I recently recompiled the kernel to x86_64.  is there an easy way to add these to my apt sources.list?04:57
andyTrying to get mplayer iinstalled04:57
BagoorHow can I chown a lot of files ? (I get this error now : -bash: /bin/chown: Argument list too long)04:57
rbilhotmail, ok ... I'll get Gaim up, get to me at:  rbil49@hotmail.com04:57
lostboyzdoes anyone here know what the sending mechanism is for the webcam04:57
lostboyzi can see my webcam but i cannot send it04:57
andymplayer does the same thing. Sound works but no video04:58
MEGALODONrbil:  I added you04:58
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MadCowBoymelvin, apparently, so...Dapper is a 'LTS' release, "long term support' which is a large commitment by the orginization04:58
ebrevdohmm.  is it possible to migrate to amd64 packages from i386?04:58
Bagoorlostboyz, where do you want to send ?04:58
effie_jayxandy: have you used automatix?04:58
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lostboyzi want to send it in msn04:59
melvinok, can anyone tell me what repositoties i need for monodevelop04:59
G0oWcould someone please tell me how to get to adept?04:59
lostboyzbut with kopete and amsn the chatmate says there is only a black screen04:59
lostboyzthey cannot see it04:59
effie_jayxandy: If you just want it to work without learning much on how to install it... the it would be an option04:59
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noxxleMovie Player is keeping past files played in history. How can i turn that off. i dont see an option in preferences05:00
Bagoorlostboyz, I don't know any MSN client with Webcam support ! You may use Ekiga. It's compatible with Netmeeting05:00
melvinis it save to use edgy?05:00
effie_jayxmarc_:   nothing?05:00
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lotusleaflostboyz: you may hear something useful re: webcams in #spca50x and #creative05:00
lostboyzyes but i am able to see it only i am not able to send it05:00
lostboyzjoin #spca50x05:01
melvinis it save to use edgy?05:01
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melvinor not yet05:01
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andyNo I have not used automatix. Where can I get it?05:01
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melvinanother thing i need good repositories05:01
G0oWautomatix is pretty nice05:01
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bimberimelvin: monodevelop is in universe05:02
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G0oWi like easyubuntu thought05:02
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amiyourjuliethi guys05:02
MadCowBoynoxxle, I think thatsjust what mplayer does, try and delete the files from the playlist05:02
amiyourjuliethows is everyone?05:02
ebrevdohey; can i set my architecture manually in ubuntu?05:02
vithi'm trying to rsync /dev/sda but using rsync -D (--devices --specials) doesn't seem to be working, i get an error "skipping non-regular file sda".  any hints?05:02
bimberimelvin: edgy is scheduled for release on Thursday05:02
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effie_jayxandy:L automatix will isntall a whole bunch of stuff atomatically05:02
melvini need good repositories, where can i find a good listo05:03
noxxlemadcowboy i couldnt05:03
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G0oWandy,  ill get you a link05:03
noxxlemadcowboy it went aaway when i dleted the file offf my pc05:03
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G0oWit show's you all you need to know aboutit05:03
andyCool, Where can I get it?05:03
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noxxlesux i wanna watch porn05:03
noxxlemaybe i need to switch to vlc??05:03
amiyourjuliethave any of you been able to successfully install gtk-sopcast?05:03
melvini need good repositoties05:03
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temperedI would like to setup SSH on ubuntu, but don't know where to start.  I have putty on my windows box.  How do I configure the ubuntu to receive the connection?05:04
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effie_jayxandy:includin mplayer, java plug ins and  flash plug ins for firefox...  JRE and JDK , AMAROK.... it is usefull if you are feeling a bit lazy :)05:04
tnncanyone have an idea why when i ssh X into box and try to run like firefox& i get GTK-WARNING cant open display05:04
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andythat's me05:04
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bimberitempered: install the ssh package05:05
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effie_jayxandy www.getautomati.com05:05
Madpilotubotu, repos | melvin05:05
ubotumelvin: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:05
effie_jayxandy www.getautomatix.org05:05
Madpiloteffie_jayx, please don't recommend that here, you don't want to be resposible for breaking people's Ubuntu, do you?05:05
maxflaxthe new drivers for Nvidia graphics.. someting with a fix.. how do I install? cause the way I did it don't seem the right way.. I know this by trial and error.. :)05:05
lostboyzdoes anyone here know what the sending mechanism is for the webcam05:05
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lostboyzi can see my webcam but i cannot send it05:06
MartinOzi'm having a problem playing DVDs in Totem - I've installed libdvdcss but I still get error message "seems you're trying to play an encrypted dvd" ... anybody know how to fix this ?05:06
amiyourjulietcan someone tell me how to interpret this error: make05:06
amiyourjulietg++ -O2 -Wall `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0`  -c callbacks.cc -o callbacks.o05:06
amiyourjuliet/bin/sh: g++: command not found?05:06
tonyyarussoI might have to reinstall this...keep getting errors with gzip05:06
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bimberiamiyourjuliet: install build-essential05:06
Madpilotamiyourjuliet, did you install build-essential?05:06
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difeta #banshee05:06
amiyourjulieti have no idea.... i'm new :/05:06
amiyourjulietapt-get build-essential?05:07
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Madpilotamiyourjuliet, sudo apt-get install build-essential05:07
MartinOzapt-get install build-essential05:07
andyIt says server not found using that url05:07
maxflaxnotice the pink elephant in the celing.. isn't a good thing.. how the heck did he get up there05:07
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amiyourjulietthanks for the help guys... looks like i didn't have it05:07
Madpilotamiyourjuliet, but what are you trying to compile that isn't in the repos?05:08
amiyourjulietgtk-sopcast front end gui05:08
jmworxMartinOz: Maybe totem also needs to be compiled with libdvdcss support05:08
Madpilotmaxflax, the first rule about the pink elephant in the ceiling, is that we don't talk about the pink elephant in the ceiling.05:08
amiyourjulietfor cable tv over the internet :)05:08
spinz8rFor info. Edgy RC cripple my BT. BTconnection manager missing. BT file sharing remains.uninstall/reinstall gnome bluetooth to no avail.05:08
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maxflaxMadpilot, good rule..05:08
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amiyourjulietmadpilot: http://lianwei3.googlepages.com/home205:08
effie_jayxandy:  http://www.getautomatix.com/05:09
MartinOzjmworx: thanks - I've got "totem-xine" installed. Is there a particular "flavour" of totem with libdvdcss support ?05:09
Terminuscan somebody tell my why `find . -print0 -name *.swp` gives me different results from `find . -name *.swp`?05:09
effie_jayxandy:  it was a dot com... you have drapper of breezy?05:09
Madpilotamiyourjuliet, interesting - that, you're going to have to compile05:09
MartinOz(plus the xine-extra-codecs)05:09
maxflaxMadpilot, it almost makes it go away.. maybe if I shut my eyes really hard! :D05:09
amiyourjulietyea,... no problem.  It's small.  I've installed it on windows, works great.  Not the gtk front end that is...05:09
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jmworxMartinOz: No idea. I never got *anything* (encrypted or not) to play in totem ever. I usually use vlc, xine or mplayer for DVDs.05:10
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lotusleafHalloween is coming up, if anyone of you has any CDs left from shipit, no need for excuses, hand them out this Halloween, duct tape a Snickers bar to them if you have to, just get them handed out! ;)05:10
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tnncanyone have an idea why i get GTK-WARNING cant open display when i use ssh -X  and then try to run like firefox&05:10
MartinOzjmworx: OK Thanks for sharing - I'll try vlc, xine or mplayer. Cheers05:10
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tonyyarussolotusleaf: Cool idea!  No ShipIt CDs left, but I could burn some.05:11
KingLearHello all05:11
lotusleaftonyyarusso: that's the spirit! I'll be handing out Dapper and Edgy CDs this Halloween05:11
gentgeen__How do get GNOME to change Virtual Desktops by moving mouse off the edge? (Using LiveCD 5.0405:11
effie_jayxapologies to all ... I had not read the automatix note on the channel... I will not lead people to automatix anymore...05:11
PeloMartinOz  you probably just need the restricted format stuff,  there a repo for it05:11
effie_jayxI find it not ethical the not on the channel on their site05:11
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tonyyarussolotusleaf: I have Hoary CDs left...but I don't think we want to give those out :X05:11
KingLearwhy is that so , that after installing smartlink drivers downloaded from limodems.technion.ac.il, having identified my modem with scan modem, I keep on disconnecting very often05:11
abarbacciahello all - how can i install edgy from a terminal rather than the GUI live desktop?05:11
effie_jayxandy: I can gide you to better guide on isntalling what you need...05:11
amiyourjulietwhat is wrong with automatix?  it worked great for me.05:12
lotusleaftonyyarusso: :P05:12
Madpilotabarbaccia, use the alternate install ISO05:12
abarbacciawhat do you mean? a new CD?05:12
Terminusno takers on my question? it just busted a lot of my hidden files because of the different results. =(05:12
effie_jayxamiyourjuliet:  I don't know and I don't care... but they are disregarding people and that is not ethical...05:12
Madpilotabarbaccia, yes, it's a different ISO to download05:12
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temperedhow do I find the names of packages?  like if I want to install ssh... but don't know what the full package is called how do I use apt-get to find the name for me?05:12
RandomDude16how do I get nvidia beta drivers?05:12
abarbacciaMadpilot: alright - thanks05:12
Peloamiyourjuliet  I suspect that because of the original ubuntu stance about proprietary format,  automatix is a bit of a tabou05:12
MartinOzPelo: I think my sources.list is all right - I've got mplayer, msttcorefonts, faad2 etc etc05:12
amiyourjulieteffie_jayx:  I don't know the story....05:12
Pelobtw it works well fo me too05:13
tonyyarussoPraise APT!  I fixed it!05:13
effie_jayxamiyourjuliet:  I don't either... but I am not leading people to them...05:13
amiyourjulietpelo: you mean the dcss etc?05:13
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Peloamiyourjuliet ???05:14
effie_jayxamiyourjuliet:  check this link... I was outraged... because I find people in this channel of great help05:14
Vaske_CarCan I install FONT from Windows that have .ttf extension?05:14
effie_jayxVaske_Car yes05:14
tonyyarusso!fonts | Vaske_Car05:14
ubotuVaske_Car: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto05:14
ubotuVaske_Car: No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer05:14
amiyourjulietlol, that is a pretty dick move05:14
abarbacciaMadpilot: do you have a link - i can't find a daily build for it05:15
Madpilotabarbaccia, the alternate ISO might not have a daily - check the beta ISOs05:15
tonyyarusso ubotu is only a short step down from God ;)05:15
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amiyourjulietI'm getting some compile errors, maybe you guys can interpret them?05:15
KingLearThe Longest period of time I got connected was 34 minutes05:15
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amiyourjulietheader.h:45:23: error: curl/curl.h: No such file or directory05:15
amiyourjulietheader.h:46:28: error: alsa/asoundlib.h: No such file or directory05:15
KingLearcan any one tell me whats wrong with my Dapper ?05:15
effie_jayxKingLear shoot :)05:16
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Madpiloteffie_jayx, interesting discovery - the automatix crew haven't changed very much, I see...05:16
amiyourjulieti tried sudo apt-get install curl.... still got the same error after i installed it?05:16
KingLearwhy is that so , that after installing smartlink drivers downloaded from limodems.technion.ac.il, having identified my modem with scan modem, I keep on disconnecting very often05:16
KingLeareffie_jayx:  :)05:16
gnufiedI was trying to install ECB(Emacs Code browser) on dapper..using apt-get and installation failed at "Errors were encountered while processing:05:16
gnufied semantic05:16
abarbacciaMadpilot: thanks a bunch! i found it.05:16
gnufiednow..i can't remove that package05:16
gnufiedi get the same error05:17
gnufiedi can't install any new package, i get the same error05:17
effie_jayxMadpilot: I don't care... I won't lead anyone else to them...05:17
KingLearThe longest periodof connection was 34 minutes , effie_jayx, and shortest was 3 minutes05:17
gentgeen__tempered, don't see that you got an answer.... apt-cache search "term"  --- so ssh for "term" will help you find ssh05:17
effie_jayxKingLear what modem is it?05:17
KingLearwhat could be the reason for such frequent disconnections?05:17
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gnufiedis there any easy way..to fix broken package tree05:18
KingLearPCTel, 688t with Oasis chipset05:18
=== gnufied i am still wondering, why a failed installation should break the entire package tree
KingLearhsp56 MIcromodem05:18
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rednaxelhi all05:18
KingLearscan modem identfied smart link drivers for this,05:18
KingLeareffie_jayx:  which I downloaded and installed without any problemat all05:19
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effie_jayxKingLear let me do some research05:19
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KingLearThanx effie_jayx05:19
rednaxelmy X does not start anymore (after a hard reset)05:20
kholerabbihow do I change my system language (menues etc.)???05:20
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rednaxel(EE) Failed to load module "bitmap"05:20
rednaxel(EE) Failed to load module "pcidata"05:20
rednaxelany hint?05:20
effie_jayxKingLear is your modem supported?05:20
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andyWhich automatix do I get for dapper?05:21
sidny4how do I make a program run at startup?05:21
KingLearIt definitely is05:21
tonyyarussoandy: You don't.05:21
KingLearthats what scan modem toldme05:21
tonyyarussoandy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or !easyubuntu instead05:21
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kholerabbisidny4: System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs > Add05:21
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sonniethe desktop CD's installer always tells "Cannot display this video mode", I have removed 1280x1024 mode from xorg.conf, but anytime it tries 1280x1024, why05:22
sonnieI use this CD: ubuntu-6.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso05:22
kholerabbisidny4: where it says 'Startup Command' type something like "gaim", firefox, evolution, or whatever you want05:22
tnncanyone know why i get GTK-WARNING cant open display when i ssh into the box05:23
effie_jayxKingLear you had no p's with the smart link driver///05:23
sidny4yup, thanks05:23
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KingLeareffie_jayx:  The drivers I downloaded for modem as per instructions are in slamr-2.6.15-23-386 file05:24
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KingLeareffie_jayx:  pardon?05:24
effie_jayxKingLear you installed the smartlink drivers?05:24
Vaske_Cartonyyarusso, thanks05:25
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andyHow do I get automatix to work with ubuntu?05:25
KingLearYes effie_jayx05:26
tritiumandy: try easyubuntu instead05:26
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effie_jayxMadpilot: it is obvious someone had a run into with them... but it is no reason for disregarding people here in the channel05:26
Vaske_Car!msttcorefonts | Vaske_Car05:26
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB05:26
andyWhere do I get that?05:26
KingLeareffie_jayx:  Only after scan modem identified and pointed to the drivers05:26
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Madpilotandy, best advice we can give about automatix is "Avoid it entirely."05:26
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:26
andydo I need to unistaqll it?05:26
Madpiloteffie_jayx, there have been several run-ins with the Automatix developer05:27
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Vaske_Carautomatix is not bad for quick installations05:27
effie_jayxandy: I told you go automatix... but after I read some things... I discurage you from It... I'm sorry for misleading you.05:27
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effie_jayxMadpilot:  what about easy ubuntu?05:28
effie_jayxMadpilot:  can I tell andy about it?05:28
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Madpiloteffie_jayx, sure05:28
Madpilotit's at least slightly saner & safer, from all reports05:28
effie_jayxandy: there is an alternative... EASYUBUNTU... :)05:28
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Vaske_Careffie_jayx, what is wrong with automatix?05:29
effie_jayxVaske_Car:  I don't know but a nasty comment on their site has made me think twice before I encourage people to use it05:29
KingLearso, what could be the reason for my frequent disconnections?05:29
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rednaxelwhere are the X11 (xorg) modules? my X does not start and complains about "bitmap" and "pcidata" modules05:29
effie_jayxKingLear: I can't be sure...05:30
effie_jayxKingLear: because it is working...05:30
KragneracHello, does antone know what the Minimum RAM requirement will be on Edgy?05:30
effie_jayxKingLear: isn't it...05:30
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andyno Bigge. I'm learning a lot.05:30
effie_jayxKingLear has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <---- his moend went puff on him05:31
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effie_jayxandy go to the easyubuntu site... :)05:31
amiyourjulieti was able to install the program05:31
amiyourjulietthanks for the help05:31
tnncis there anyone here that can answer my ? about remote ssh05:31
andyI have it running now05:31
effie_jayxandy really?05:32
effie_jayxwhat are you installing???05:32
andyIt was prety easy to install05:32
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kjmhey everyone05:33
andythe codecs for the media players05:33
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brainotnnc: what was your question?05:33
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effie_jayxandy great... :)05:34
tnncbraino i get an GTK-WARNING cant open display and wonder what could cause that05:34
effie_jayxandy automatix is much more of a hassle any way :)05:34
brainowhen do you get that warning?05:34
KragneracI want to know if the Edgy version is going to require at least 512 RAM, as I've seen dramatic increases in the last few versions... 32MB for Hoary, 128MB for Breezy, 256MB for Dapper...05:35
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tnncwhen i use ssh -l -X name hostip and i get in then run like firefox& i get it05:35
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andyUbentu seems pretty easy05:36
andyeasyubuntu seems pretty easy05:36
Vaske_CarWhat will be new in Edgy? Any good link with explanation?05:36
Vaske_Car!edgy | Vaske_Car05:36
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ubotuVaske_Car: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:36
andyThe video works! Thanks for all the help on this05:37
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effie_jayxand: you are wellcom05:38
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tnncbraino i get it after i login and try to run like firefox05:38
blake6489_hey, ive got a shell script question05:38
effie_jayxandy: you are welcome my friend05:38
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tgelter"Failed to load module 'evdev' " when I try to get my MX1000 mouse working...any ideas? (it keeps X from starting)05:38
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blake6489_im trying to perform the same action on all files in a directory tree05:39
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brainotnnc: do you have the allow X11 forwarding set in your hosts config?05:39
rednaxeltgelter: my X is not starting too...05:39
tgelterrednaxel: is your problem related to the Core Pointer?05:40
blake6489_heres the script,,    foreach x (*.svg) /n  /usr/bin/convert -render "$x" testing/"$x"  /n  end05:40
rednaxelmy X does not start and complains about "bitmap" and "pcidata" modules05:40
tnncbraino yes in sshd_config that is set05:40
hav0kdoes anyone know what window xp's charset is?  im trying to copy a regedit file to ubuntu for wine05:40
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andyI can not get the embedded video package to work because it says no public key. What is that?05:40
effie_jayxMadpilot:  andy = one happy costumer05:41
hav0kdoes anyone know what window xp's charset is?  im trying to copy a regedit file to ubuntu for wine and i need to convert the coding05:41
effie_jayxMadpilot:  scratch that... one happy user...05:41
effie_jayxandy: you did not buy it...05:41
Madpiloteffie_jayx, good to know, and yes, MS might have customers, but Ubuntu has users. Users are better.05:41
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effie_jayxMadpilot: and HUMAN users ... humble... ready to learn and to to lead...05:42
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Vaske_CarHow to convert europoed DVD to american with Ubuntu?05:43
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hav0kno, a regedit file from my windows05:43
Toma-Vaske_Car: dvdshrink perhaps?05:43
sixthDBO, whats "super" key?05:43
andyTmakes sense.05:43
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Vaske_CarToma, hvala05:43
andythat make sense05:43
DBOsixth, windows key05:43
briguydis the official firefox icon in now?05:43
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sixthDBO, thanks for everything05:44
DBOsixth, yep05:44
Toma-ok :D05:44
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sixthDBO, youve helped me alot :)05:44
witlessapt-get upgrade  is giving me "following packages could not be updated" errors.  is there a fix?05:44
joincampsomething i did when playing with gtk themes hosed it and now i cant get into gnome.  is there any way to revert this?05:44
Toma-Vaske_Car: xdvdshrink is a nice frontend to it btw05:44
DBOsixth, nothing big =)  enjoy beryl05:44
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cchackerwho knows how to lift restriction05:44
tritiumcchacker: what are you talking about?05:45
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Toma-cchacker: take off the girdle?05:45
hav0kdoes anyone know window's default charset?05:45
cchackeroff bank account05:45
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DigitalNinjaWhat's the best way to install the nvidia driver05:45
liwiwhat means "periodicaly" (how often) in gnome clock?05:46
sixthDBO, thanks alot, i will :)) byebye for now05:46
Toma-cchacker: call the bank and tell them your password/PIN?05:46
cchackerit dont work05:46
tnncbraino yes X11 forwarding is set to yes in sshd_config file05:46
andyI am trying to install the logitech webcam driver. I downloaded the file and it is setting in my archive manager. What do I do now?05:46
hav0kdoes anyone know window's default charset?05:46
Toma-cchacker: because its not your account?05:46
cchackerits mine just not my info05:47
dr4cul453xygood day everyone05:47
joincampsomething i did when playing with gtk themes hosed it and now i cant get into gnome.  is there any way to revert this?05:47
tritiumcchacker: how can that be?05:47
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Toma-cchacker: and thats got something to do with ubuntu how?05:47
cchackeri thought i could find someone who could into it05:47
dr4cul453xyanyone know how to chat to yahoomessenger from ubuntu?05:48
joincampwhat is the bin for the gnome themer05:48
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Vaske_Cardr4cul453xy, install Kopete05:48
dr4cul453xyi've done installed my ubuntu just a few minutes ago05:49
tritiumdr4cul453xy: use gaim05:49
bun-bun!gaim > dr4cul453xy05:49
Vaske_Caryes Gaim too, I like more Kopete :)05:49
purefanHi all!05:49
dr4cul453xyok thanks broyhers...05:49
purefanoh it works, hehe total noob here05:49
Toma-lol a hacker with an aol account05:50
hav0kdoes anyone know window's default charset?05:50
vice-versaneed some help getting grub working correctly on a SATA capable system, but using PATA drive with XP and Ubuntu installed05:50
purefanhmmm.... I dont, but wouldnt UTF-8 work?05:50
DarkMageZToma-, all hackers on AOL accounts aren't actually on aol... they've just compromised aol machines and using them as innocent fronts05:51
hav0khow about ubuntu's default charset?05:51
dr4cul453xythanks tritium & bun-bun.. its work :)05:51
Toma-i know05:51
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bun-bundr4cul453xy# you're welcome05:51
purefancan anyone read me??05:51
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vice-versawill only boot from the PATA drive if there is a SATA drive installed05:52
bun-bunpurefan# yes05:52
witlesswhen i run apt-get upgrade, i get this error with about 20 packages: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"   -- any ideas what the problem might be?05:52
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bun-bunwitless# have you been adding sources to your sources.list file?05:52
purefanoh cool! thnx bun-bun :) well I could use some help on getting the Beryl installed and working.... my friend tried in the afternoon but couldnt really get it05:53
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DigitalNinjaWhat's the best way to install the invidia driver05:53
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.05:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:53
andyI am trying to install the drivers for my logitech webcam. I have downloaded the drivers and it sits in my archive manager. How doI get it installed?05:53
vice-versaanyone have any thoughts on this?05:54
purefan#ubotu thanks! I will :D05:54
bun-bunvice-versa# that's something you need to check in your BIOS05:55
bun-bunvice-versa# sounds like a boot device priority issue05:55
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vice-versabun-bun: been over that extensively05:55
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vice-versabun-bun: there is no way to disable SATA in the BIOS either :(05:56
effie_jayxandy: can't help you there...05:56
jon_what file contains the theme preferences so i can delete it....some option is killing my gnome05:56
effie_jayxandy: I haven't met a living sould who has made their wc work on linux...05:56
bun-bunvice-versa# you're trying to boot linux from your sata drive?05:56
effie_jayxandy: try searching the forums...05:56
vice-versabun-bun: for what it's worth, it worked fine with Windows boot loader with just the PATA disk05:56
effie_jayxandy: i tried to do it a year and a half ago...05:57
vice-versabun-bun: no, bot XP and Ubuntu are installed on the PATA drive05:57
effie_jayxandy: things change :)05:57
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bun-bunvice-versa# so your system is looking to boot from the sata drive?05:57
witlessbun-bun: all the sources are at ubuntu.com05:57
andyI found the drivers on sourceforge. I downloaded it. I just need to know how to get out of my archive manager and installed05:58
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vice-versabun-bun: no, I think it's a grub issue to be honest, like I said Windows boot loader works fine05:58
bun-bunvice-versa# i'm not clear what issue you're having05:58
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vice-versabun-bun: will only boot from the PATA drive if there is a SATA drive installed05:59
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!05:59
bun-bunwitless# i've gotten similar errors when i've updated my sources.list without updating the keys05:59
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vice-versabun-bun: but this system will not have a SATA drive05:59
alekzhow can i change the ubuntu version that is displayed on http://www.ubuntuforums.org ?05:59
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bun-bunvice-versa# so if it's just the pata drive installed it won't boot?06:00
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vice-versabun-bun: correct06:00
matidalekz: It's in your profile06:00
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jon_what file contains the theme preferences for gnome so i can delete it....some option is killing my gnome06:00
bun-bunvice-versa# it sounds like you installed grub in the mbr of the sata drive perhaps06:00
alekzmatid i can't find where...06:00
witlessbun-bun: how do i update the keys?06:00
alekzlol i've seen where06:00
vice-versabun-bun: there was no SATA drive in the system, we just tried one on a whim and low and behold up comes grub06:01
matidalekz: Try User CP->Settings & Options->Edit profile->Additional information06:01
alekzyeap matid thanks =)06:01
jon_"what file contains the theme preferences so i can delete it....some option is killing my gnome"06:01
tritiumjon_: please don't repeat too often06:01
bun-bunwitless# something like wget http://the-site-you-added/somekey.gpg -O - |sudo apt-key add06:02
tnncanyone else might have an idea why when i remote ssh to my box and try to like firefox& i get GTK-WARNING cant open display i have X11 forwarding set to yes in sshd_config any ideas anyone??06:02
bun-buntnnc# are you invoking ssh with ssh -X xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?06:03
brainosorry tnnc, I couldn't find anything =/06:03
snoopscan someone recommend to me a graphical duplicate file finder?06:04
tnncbun-bun i am running like ssh -l user -X ip06:04
godmachine81how long will this chan support dapper after thursday?06:04
godmachine81also will edgy automatically become the main focus in here as soon as it is released?06:04
godmachine81or will there be like a grace period?06:04
bun-buntnnc# that looks like it would work, but maybe try ssh -X user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx06:04
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tnncbun-bun i have also try that way to but get that warning06:05
snoopswell dapper is called long term support..which is supposed to be a full 5 years support godmachine8106:05
vice-versabun-bun: so any thoughts?06:05
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godmachine8118 months06:06
bun-bunvice-versa# i thought your last statement said it was working06:06
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godmachine81and that doesnt mean the irc chan06:06
godmachine81that means the repos will be maintained with security updates for 18 months06:06
marcrosoftanyone know how to turn off the minimize effect in gnome?06:06
godmachine81and backports06:06
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vice-versabun-bun: yeah, only if we install a SATA drive in the syste, there will be no SATA drive in it when it's working correctly06:07
witlessbun-bun: i just realized this is a xubuntu machine - would that make a difference?06:07
Halpohow do you tell which files are special files in the /dev  (i was reading in the man man)06:07
bun-bunwitless# i don't think so06:07
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snoopsoh whoops it's 3 years for dapper-desktop and 5 years for dapper server godmachine81.. and yeah, I have no idea if this channel will continue to focus on dapper06:07
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bun-bunvice-versa# that sounds bizarre.  if you've already checked and double checked yoru BIOS settings and you're certain grub is installed properly in the mbr of your pata drive06:08
TraeIt's amazing how terribly bad alacarte is06:08
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AmaranthTrae: How is that?06:08
Traespeak of the devil06:08
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Leonehi , i my ubuntu dapper done connect to internet :S06:08
vice-versabun-bun: well it must be, as it will boot with a SATA drive in the system06:08
TraeAmaranth, seriously... there are simple things one should be able to do that proves infinitely elusive06:09
bun-bunvice-versa# what's on the sata drive?06:09
vice-versabun-bun: it's not booting from the SATA drive either btw06:09
AmaranthTrae: Examples?06:09
TraeAmaranth, Drag Firefox to be on the main Applications menu06:09
TraeSo I don't have to hunt for it06:09
vice-versabun-bun: XP, Gentoo with lilo boot loader06:09
AmaranthTrae: You can do that.06:09
TraeWon't go in without a folder.06:09
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bun-bunvice-versa# and without the sata drive it won't boot at all?  or it just fails to find a bootable disk?06:10
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vice-versabun-bun: just fails to find a bootable disk06:10
Leonei cant connect to internet , why!??!06:10
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bun-bunvice-versa# try pulling the sata drive and reinstalling grub06:10
TraeAmaranth, 0.10.1 is what I have06:10
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AmaranthTrae: I think it's actually a bug with the way I have alacarte naming files, not a bug with moving things to the 'Applications' menu.06:10
bun-bunvice-versa# using a live cd or a rescue floppy06:10
stephen_hello everyone06:10
vice-versabun-bun: been there done that too many times now06:11
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sudharshLeone: what kinda connection do you have06:11
AmaranthTrae: Try something that doesn't have a space in the name.06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
Epidemikhow do i get javaruntimeenviroment?06:11
Leoneadsl 512 sudharsh06:11
TraeAmaranth, ok.06:11
vice-versabun-bun: liveCD06:11
sudharshLeone: ok..sudo pppoeconf06:11
TraeAmaranth, I feel guilty now that you caught me talking bad about you06:11
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Leonesudharsh, i am in my live cd06:11
sudharshLeone: doesnt matter dude :)06:11
Leonenow i press yes?06:12
Leonesorry my english isnt very good06:12
sudharshLeone: yes06:12
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heatxsinkhello all!06:12
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Leoneok , i pressed yes06:12
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heatxsinkhehe, anyone experience problems upgrading from dapper to edgy?06:12
TraeAmaranth, :/06:12
AmaranthTrae: That didn't work either?06:12
sudharshLeone: it should start looking for the ethernet interface on you box06:12
TraeI renamed Firefox  to Firefox (without spaces)06:12
TraeAmaranth, also... there needs to be a "non-alphabetical" ability06:13
AmaranthTrae: Explain?06:13
Leonesudharsh, Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access             06:13
Leone           Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please    06:13
Leone           check your network and modem cables. Another reason      06:13
Leone           for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe   06:13
Leone           process which controls the modem.06:13
Leonesorri about the spam!!06:13
TraeLeone, np, just #flood or pastebin.com please06:13
TraeLeone, next time that is06:13
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Leonesorry  flood06:13
sudharshLeone: what kinda modem are you having..is it a adsl ethernet router?06:13
TraeAmaranth, trying heh, got distracted.06:13
TraeAmaranth, going to create a custom launcher and see if that works.06:14
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Leonesudharsh,  yes is a router06:14
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AmaranthTrae: If I rename ~/.local/share/applications/Firefox Web Browser.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/Firefox.desktop then edit ~/.config/menus/applications.menu to use the name filename it works fine06:15
TraeAmaranth, w00p!06:15
TraeAmaranth, it's working now06:15
AmaranthTrae: So I just need to replace spaces with _06:15
sudharshLeone: ok..does it have an admin interface running in it? like when you point to some address in your browser you get an admin interface06:15
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AmaranthTrae: Hopefully it'll get into an edgy update06:15
TraeAmaranth, btw, if you ever need someone to test stuff on, let me know.  (as long as you don't blow up my machine!)06:16
Leonemm no , in the live cd i dont have any problem to browse some pages , but when iu started my session it say "page not found"bla bla06:16
TraeAmaranth, oh, a "delete" would be nice.06:16
sudharshLeone: oh so it was working earlier? what does ifconfig say06:16
ChuHmm, I seem to be having graphical issues with Edgy Eft (boot messages after grub aren't showing up). What packages may be a factor in this?06:16
AmaranthTrae: The worst that could happen is you lose your custom menus (unless you run as root, then you could use /usr/share/applications/* :P)06:17
AmaranthTrae: right click on a menu item06:17
TraeAmaranth, nod... I could aways re-build em'06:17
AmaranthTrae: (the ones in the right list)06:17
AmaranthTrae: Or just hit the delete key06:17
TraeAmaranth, ahh okies.  (Probably just need a button on the right side)06:17
Leonesudharsh, when i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper the internet doesnt work06:17
Traeas there is a button for other things.06:17
AmaranthTrae: too many buttons :P06:17
TraeAmaranth, nod06:17
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sudharshLeone: aah ok...sudo ifconfig eth0 up06:18
TraeAmaranth, sweet06:18
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TraeAmaranth, you have no idea how long I've waited for this.06:18
TraeI've just avoided that thing like the plague06:18
Leonesudharsh, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28062/06:18
AmaranthTrae: hehe, it's been there in some form since breezy06:19
Traeyeah... but 0.8 left a bad taste in my mouth06:19
Leonesudharsh, ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0 up06:19
TraeAmaranth, triple my money back though, if I ain't 100% satisfied!06:19
sudharshLeone: try ping google.com06:19
TraeAmaranth, I'm feelin' it now though06:19
AmaranthTrae: hehe, 0.8 was _slow_06:19
Leonesudharsh,  in console?06:19
sudharshLeone: yeah06:20
AmaranthTrae: In 0.10 I switched to use the same backend the actually menus use to make it go faster.06:20
witlessi'm using synclient to turn off the tap-button behavior of my laptop touchpad.  where's a good place to put that command so it runs for all laptop users?06:20
Leoneok sudharsh06:20
TraeAmaranth, Great work.06:20
TraeAmaranth, I know this is probably a dirty word to you, but what are your thoughts on the SLED?06:20
Trae s/SLED/SLAB/06:20
panzermhello all06:21
Leonesudharsh,  it say ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ping google.com06:21
LeonePING google.com ( 56(84) bytes of data.06:21
Leone64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=171 ms06:21
Leone  and contienue with 170ms 169 ms etc...06:21
AmaranthTrae: Thanks but it's the cause for fun bugs like the one you just found. My old backend was written by someone custom tailoring it to make my life easy. :)06:21
TraeAmaranth, there are some cases where, when the panel is on the bottom, that menu items don't full "explode" upward.06:21
sudharshLeone: you are connected noe :L)06:21
Leonei am conected?06:21
AmaranthTrae: I think it's nice for new users but doesn't scale. Once you become more experienced it's slower then using the three menus like we have now.06:21
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TraeAmaranth, I'm glad I can't code, so I can't be forced to take over from you!06:21
Leoneso now i can restart and enter to my sesion and conect sudharsh 06:22
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TraeAmaranth, nod... great observation.06:22
VGambitSo there's no way of viewing flash 8 movies/animations in linux?06:22
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashbeta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:22
alekzhi, im trying to make a traceroute but i can't, i have firestarter running, just if i disable it i cant perform traceourte, the thing here is that i've checked firestarter's options and the traceroute icmp filtering is enable, anyone has a idea?06:22
TraeAmaranth, did you figure out how to fix the issue with menus expanding when bottom panel is in use?06:22
sudharshLeone: i suppose you are on the live cd..06:22
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)06:22
Leonei will try in my session06:22
AmaranthVGambit: there you go06:22
Leonethanks very much sudharsh , if i got a problem i will be here ok?06:23
sudharshLeone: cool06:23
AmaranthTrae: What's that?06:23
AmaranthTrae: Oh, I only used the slab thing for about a week06:23
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TraeAmaranth, every once in a while, when you have your panel at the bottom, and you try to go to say "system" or "places" it will offer you a "browseable" menu... (where you have to scroll up and down in the menu)06:23
Traedoesn't happen often.06:24
Traethat could have been on 0.8 thing06:24
Traeas I don't recall it happening in Edgy yet06:24
AmaranthTrae: My "observation" is what a real usability guy said in a gnome mailing list that happened to match my experience.06:24
concept10you guys talking about USP?06:24
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AmaranthTrae: That's not related to alacarte06:24
TraeAmaranth, ahh, but you know of what I'm speaking to.06:24
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Traeman, I can't speak english for nuttin'06:24
AmaranthTrae: And it happens on top panels too. It's basically never reproducible.06:24
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Traecfc4n, english only please.  #ubuntu-jp06:25
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TraeI think that's Japaneses06:25
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AmaranthWell, I see katakana06:25
cfc4nNo    Im Chinese !06:25
bun-bun!cn > cfc4n06:25
AmaranthBut i don't know enough about the languages over there to know if chinese or korean use katakana06:25
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cfc4nYes !06:25
Traecfc4n, sorry... I get my Asian chars mixxed up :(06:25
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Traesilly American boy[tm] 06:26
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TraeI can normally tell the difference actually06:26
TraeKorean is quite easy to discern06:27
Mustang97Sorry, for the dumb question but I been searching the forums and cant seem to find a solution to my problem.   I am tring to use Wine to install Vb but firstly I need ot install it.   I cant for the life of me get the CD drive to mount.06:27
Traesorry, I'm OT06:27
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JfrenchCan some one link me to the URL of the Cedega 14 Day trial? I want to try it before buy, and i heard there is a trial :)06:28
andyThanks for everyones's help. I learned alot.06:28
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effie_jayx cheerss...06:28
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effie_jayxandy: keep on rocking un int free world...06:29
andyI still wish I knew how to get my logitech camera to work06:29
flodineanyone use eterm term06:29
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MrObviousI've got a problem using gstreamer to play mp3s, it doesn't work even though I installed the packages on the wiki.06:30
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MrObvious*drops a pin*06:31
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tnncanyone else might have an idea why when i remote ssh to my box and try to like firefox& i get GTK-WARNING cant open display i have X11 forwarding set to yes in sshd_config any ideas anyone??06:31
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bimberitnnc: did you 'ssh -X <host>'06:32
andyAnyone know about a good web design software for ubuntu?06:32
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Mustang97Applications >> Accessories >> Text Editor06:33
andyI've found NVU.06:33
Mustang97Best Web Designing software.  Do the coding yoru self.06:33
brainobluefish is nice06:33
vice-versaI need some help with a SATAnic grub boot loader problem, any experienced grub users willing to help?06:33
brainoi use gvim though :o06:33
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leonesudharsh, its not conected06:33
sudharshleone: the session do not get saved in the live cd :)06:34
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tnncbimberi yes i have i can get it but when i run like firefox& i get the warning06:34
leoneso ??06:34
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leonewhat must i do , sorry06:35
vice-versatnnc: can you run other apps?06:35
sudharshleone: all the settings you save will revert to defaults06:35
sudharshleone: if you need the sessions to be saved, you got to install ubuntu first :)06:35
tnncvice-versa no nothing will run06:35
leonei installed ubuntu06:35
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sudharshleone: then why are you on the live cd06:36
leonei am in a live cd , bc in my ubuntu i dont have internet06:36
leonei dont have internet in my ubuntu06:36
dr4cul453xyanyone know how to install Qt in ubuntu?06:36
sudharshleone: aah ok.....just sudo ifconfig eth0 up in your ubuntu box06:36
leoneso i must enter in my ubuntu and write the command?06:36
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HilmarOk, I have been trying to set up my Ubuntu server as a gateway for my network now for 4 hours, trying to folllow the How-to on the net. But the iptables rules which is there dosnt work for me06:36
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HilmarI have tried everything now, starting to get frustrated06:37
brainotnnc: what about non-gnome apps, like xclock06:37
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leoneok sudharsh  thanks06:37
leonei will try in my ubuntu now06:37
sudharshleone: ok tell me if it works06:37
HilmarAnyone who can help me out?06:37
leoneok , thanks su06:37
user__I need help :(  I tried mounting ubuntu on my computer but it stops installing half ways06:37
Hilmarwhich knows something aboutiptables06:37
user__it doesnt hang..06:37
FunnyLookinHatHilmar, try asking in #ubuntu-server    that is more server related support06:38
jon_i was messing with gnome themes and i clicked on a kubuntu icon pack.....now gnome is hosed.   i cant find any way to bring it back..... can anyone help?06:38
user__it just pauses at 52% and it seems like its not installing anything anymore06:38
vice-versaHilmar: try in #iptables too06:38
TraeAmaranth, more feedback:  I like the fact it doesn't "remove" an item under a particular catagory when you drag it out somewhere say to your "favorites"  (above Applications)06:38
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tnncbraino i try xclock to and it gice the GTK-WARNING to06:38
sudharshuser__: maybe the media is borked..tried another media?06:39
AmaranthTrae: Funny, most people hate that. :P06:39
Traeit used to "drag it out" of a catagory before, and that always bugged me.06:39
brainotnnc, is the server running a window manager?06:39
tnncbraino yes it is06:39
TraeAmaranth, yeah, but it doesn't make sense.  It's a lot like dragging via a NFS share... if you drag from your NFS share, you don't expect it to compleetely remove it from the remote source, when you only want a copy locally06:39
user__do you guys have any ideas why my installation fails at 52%?06:40
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TraeAmaranth, meaning it doesn't make sense to make it "go away"06:40
tnncbraino ubuntu desktop06:40
AmaranthTrae: That's what I said. :)06:40
wrabbit^user__: bad burn?06:40
TraeAmaranth, ;)06:40
VGambitOk, uh06:40
brainotnnc: then I think you will need to use a different display for the connecting clients06:40
user__hmmm...ill try burning it again...06:40
TraeAmaranth, great minds...06:40
VGambitHibernation doesn't work properly on my laptop while using Dapper.06:40
wrabbit^user__: Try at a slower speed06:40
brainoin your sshd_config, I think it's called XserverdisplayOffset, or something to that affect06:40
sudharshuser__: check the md5 also06:40
tnncbraino i am using cygwin in xp to connect06:41
VGambitIt'll go into hibernation fine, but when I try to turn it back on, I get a blank screen.06:41
Fletch229hello is there a mirror or dload site with old versions of ubuntu available06:41
user__alright...im restart it it...thanks guys..06:41
tnncbraino till i reinstall ubuntu it worked06:41
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jon_i was messing with gnome themes and i clicked on a kubuntu icon pack.....now gnome is hosed.   i cant find any way to bring it back..... can anyone help?06:42
sudharshjon_: hosed? what jappened06:42
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jon_nothing gnome related will load06:43
jon_when i changed the option it crashed06:43
pibarnascould anyone suceed compiling gtk-engines in dapper drake amd64?06:43
brainotnnc, lemme do some reading and see if I can find anything06:43
tnncbraino thanks06:43
andyI downloaded bluefish-0.11.tar.gz. How do I go about installing it?06:43
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jon_sudharsh: if i try to run gnome-theme-manager i get gtk warnings and it crashes06:43
brainoandy, use apt-get or synaptic to get bluefish06:44
brainotype in gksudo synaptic and search for bluefish06:44
jon_sudharsh: is there a .conf file i can revert?06:44
sudharshjon_: ok try running them in a terminal..maybe use xterm or failsafe for that..you ll get the verbose output06:44
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clarkbaumgartnercan someone help me? i've tried a few times and been ignored06:44
andyIn synaptic, How do I get it?06:45
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brainoclick the search button06:45
sudharshjon_: uninstall the troublesome theme pack06:45
jon_sudharsh: (gtk-theme-switch2:22460): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for tango has no directories06:46
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jon_sudharsh: how do i uninstall it though when i cant run the theme manager06:47
flasherI've got the SCIM/anthy program running for japanese. how can i type in korean. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:47
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sudharshjon_: look in ./gnome..sorry mate dont use gnome06:47
MrObviousDoes anyone know how to get gstreamer to play mp3s? I'm trying to use songbird and it requires gstreamer. oggs work great.06:48
andyThanks for the help.06:48
jon_sudharsh: what am i looking for06:48
MrObviousI did what was outlined in the wiki as far as installing the packages for mp3s.06:48
brainotnnc: pm06:48
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VGambitSo hibernation doesn't work at all for anyone? :/06:49
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sudharshjon_ : just a sec06:49
jon_sudharsh: ok06:49
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MrObviousVGambit: Never tried.06:50
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tnncbraino i am on there06:50
greenmangot a question.06:50
greenmanI'm installing and i have a couple of options06:50
greenmanone is install to hard disk06:50
VGambitsee, I use my laptop in school. having to constantly turn it on and off between classes is very inconvenient.06:50
greenmanand one is install a lamp server06:50
greenmanwhat's the difference?06:51
Leonesudharsh, it  doesnt work06:51
MrObviousAnyone on my question?06:51
sudharshjon_: the theme in question, is it locally installed?06:51
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sudharshLeone: oh...got any errors?06:51
andyWhat is a good FTP client for ubuntu06:51
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Leoneno errors06:51
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sudharshLeone: give me the output of ifconfig06:52
jon_sudharsh: i think so, i never tried doing anything else06:52
flasherdoes anybody input text in korean language?06:52
Leonesudharsh, how can i see the output , sorry i a newbie06:52
tritiumandy: gftp or even nautilus06:52
sudharshjon_: hmm..ok 'cd .icons'06:52
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sudharshLeone: oh sorry..'ifconfig ' in the terminal06:52
greenmancan someone answer my question real quick?  I'm thinking you have to install to the hard disk first then install lamp...06:53
andyWhich would be better?06:53
Fletch229hello is there a mirror or dload site with old versions of ubuntu available06:53
jon_sudharsh: i see it in /usr/share/icons06:53
sudharshjon_: check whether the troublesome icon theme is sitting there06:53
sudharshjon_: oh great...move it to some where else..06:53
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jon_sudharsh: the directory, or the index.theme?06:53
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FunnyLookinHatgreenman, I think your question could be best answered in #ubuntu-server   but from what it sounds like, if you are installing with a non-server CD then you ar ecorrect.  Install to the hard disc first, then install LAMP06:54
Leonesudharsh,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28065/06:54
jon_sudharsh: thanks06:54
jon_sudharsh: im pretty sure i got it now06:54
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sudharshLeone: your ethernet is already up...looks like you are connected06:55
jon_sudharsh: have a good one06:55
jon_sudharsh: that was very helpful06:55
sudharshjon_: cheers ^_^06:55
Leonebut i cant conect06:55
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Leonecan be some permisions?06:55
sudharshLeone: ok...what does ;ping' do06:56
JfrenchCan some one please help me, I want to install the Cedega Free Trial, Does it still exist?06:56
greenmanFunnyLookinHat: i'll check there, thanks.06:56
Leonesudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ping
LeonePING ( 56(84) bytes of data.06:56
Leone64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.067 ms06:56
Leone64 bytes from icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.048 ms06:56
greenmanI'm installing with the server cd06:56
sudharshLeone: what is the model of your router06:56
sudharshLeone: what about 'ping google.com'06:56
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Leonezyxel prestige 600 sudharsh06:57
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darnell_ugh.. enlightenment..06:57
darnell_how do you install a theme?06:57
Leonesudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ping google.cl06:57
LeonePING google.cl ( 56(84) bytes of data.06:57
Leone64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=234 time=232 ms06:57
tritiumLeone: please stop that06:57
MadpilotLeone, use pastebin rather than pasting to the channel06:58
sudharshLeone: hmm..its pinging google...you are connected to the internet...06:58
Leonesudharsh,  when i tape ping google.cl  in my ubuntu it say  uknow host06:58
Leonebut now i am in live cd06:58
Leonewhen i taped it in my ubuntu sesion it say uknow host google.cl06:58
andyGood night everyone. Thanks for all the help. The second day on Ubuntu was very successful.06:58
Leonesorry about the flood06:58
darnell_anyone use enlightenment?06:58
Fletch229gee thanks for all the help06:59
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sudharshLeone: er..i guess you want to connect to the internet  from your installed ubuntu box?06:59
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Leonenow i am in my live cd06:59
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sudharshLeone: what does 'ifconfig eth0 up' do in your ubuntu installed computer07:00
wahyoong84hey guys, could I ask a quick question regarding repartitioning ubuntu for dual boot?07:00
mikeHey why cant I install Realplayer from Add/Remove pplications07:00
Leonesudharsh,  this --> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0 up07:00
brainotnnc: you there?07:00
Leoneits looks that all its ok sudharsh07:01
sudharshLeone: try 'ping google.com' now on the installed machine now07:01
Leonei tried sudharsh07:01
Leoneit say uknow host07:01
sudharshLeone: even now? after the last command07:02
wahyoong84when I try to resize my existing windows hard disk from ubuntu to install ubuntu...its stuck there with this blue screen and grey bar at the bottom :(07:02
wahyoong84and there's no status bar or anything, I'm not sure whether its hung or not :(07:02
sudharshi.e ifconfig07:02
Leonethis command sudharsh  sudo ifconfig eth0 up ?07:02
sudharshLeone: yes07:02
Leoneyes i wrote it in my installed ubuntu07:02
Leoneand than i tri ping google.cl and it say uknow host07:03
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sudharshLeone: hmm...07:03
sudharshLeone: just a hunch but most routers have an admin interface running which you can access through your browser07:04
sudharshLeone: mostly
Leoneso how can i enter?07:04
sudharshLeone: so try 'sudo route add default gw' in the terminal07:04
Leoneubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo route add default gw
LeoneSIOCADDRT: File exists07:05
sudharshLeone: oh! now try accessing that url from your browser07:05
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Leoneu mean ?07:05
greenmanwhat's a good partitioning scheme for ubuntu?07:05
greenmani'm not sure where it puts things07:06
sudharshLeone: yes07:06
greenmani know 1G for swap07:06
^Sarek^Anybody else here have an Inspiron 640M?07:06
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Leonesudharsh,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28066/07:06
greenmani have a 160GB drive07:07
Rookie_dns ?07:07
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sudharshLeone: no dont ping it...point to from firefox07:07
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Madpilotgreenman, 5-10Gb for /, the rest for /home, /swap if you've got less that 1Gb of RAM07:07
Flannelgreenman: /home will contain all of your personal files, and it's a good idea to have it on its own partition, makes reinstalling without losing that stuff a lot easier (painless even), as for the rest, it technically won't hurt to put it all one.  What do you plan on using it for?07:07
greenmanFlannel: Primarily a web-server07:08
Leoneit say " the conection was refused" sudharsh07:08
Flannelgreenman: if youre running a web server/ or whatever, and plan on putting stuff in /var (like /var/www, the web folder), you'll want to give that more room07:08
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Flannelgreenman: unless of course you're giving people a public_html sort of thing in their own home dirs07:08
greenmanFlannel: nah :)07:09
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sudharshLeone: oh..you live cd works and your installed machine doesnt..!! :s07:09
Leonethats is07:09
greenmanFlannel: so if I do a small /, like 5-10GB it's not likely to run out?07:09
Flannelgreenman: then you might want to give var it's own, with however much space you want to use (plus some more for normal other /var stuff)07:09
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Flannelgreenman: well, depends on how much you plan on putting in /var/www, personally I sometimes host movies, for my LAN, at 4.7gb a pop, 5gb total is a tight fit07:10
Rookie_for desktop use, boot and swap and root ... those 3 partitions are good enough ...07:10
TraeHoly cow....  I've been running Ubuntu for what, well over 2 years?  And I've just discovered the add/remove apps tool07:10
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sudharshLeone: ok we will try 'sudo pppoeconf' if we are lucky we might get it right07:10
TraeHas that always been as cool as it is in Edgy?07:11
greenmandoes this sound decent?  var = 30G, / = 30G, /home = 100GB07:11
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Flannelgreenman: you won't need that much in /07:11
HilmarAnyone know how I can add "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE", to a startup script, I think it shall go to /etc/network/interfaces, but I dont know how07:11
Leonesudharsh, i put in the live cd console , and it say ,  Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access ....07:12
greenmanFlannel: I like to plan for the future :)  plus, what else am I going to use it for?  I don't have near enough to fill up 100G for /home07:12
sudharshLeone: no not in the live cd console...the one with ubuntu installed07:12
greenmanjust curious why to keep / small?07:12
Leoneok sudharsh  i must restart07:13
Flannelgreenman: no other reason than to not waste it (it'll be empty most of the time)07:13
Traehow do I get something out of stdout ?  (heh)  { dump                     Dump the current playlist to stdout  }07:14
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greenmanFlannel: okay, how about 20, 40, 100?07:14
greenmanthat sound better?07:14
TraeI'm trying:  charm-quark dump07:14
TraeIf you run gnome and want a kick butt music player try "quark"07:14
Flannelgreenman: is that / /var /home? or /var / /home?07:14
niz_I've noticed dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig doesn't ask me whether to use the BCI in Eft... anyone know how to enable it?07:15
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TraeI think apt-get install quark07:15
niz_Do I have to build the package from source now, as in Fedora?07:15
greenmanFlannel: you were right the first time07:15
Flannelgreenman: I've got KDE and gnome installed, and I'm not even using 2.5gb in /07:15
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greenmancool.  thanks for the help07:16
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witlesswhere can i get the apt keys for ubuntu?07:17
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.07:17
alekzwhere can i find the source code of xchat on my filesystem ?07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
Flannelwitless: did you generate new sources with source-o-matic?07:17
witlessFlannel: no07:17
Flannelalekz: you'll have to download them, apt-get source xchat07:17
alekzthanks Flannel07:17
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Flannelwitless: well, if you do, (or at least, 'generate' a list that uses the same repositories) and it'll list the keys for each07:18
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:18
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greenmanwhat mount options do you use for /swap?07:20
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greenmani figured it out07:21
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Leonesudharsh, it didnt work07:25
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sudharshLeone: oh..ok...sorry mate i thought you were having ubuntu installed in another machine :)07:26
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Leonei got ubuntu in this machine07:26
Leonebut now i am in live cd07:26
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sudharshLeone: anyway...now we will chroot to your ubuntu installation07:27
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sudharshsudharsh: give me the ls of /media07:27
sudharshLeone: ls /media07:27
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sudharshLeone: ?07:28
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Leoneubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ls /media07:28
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Leonesudharsh,  there is07:29
tonyyarussoWhassamatta BHSPitLappy?07:29
sudharshLeone: ?07:29
BHSPitLappytonyyarusso, dapper just went windows on me.07:30
XaserHi everyone, Just wondering if anyone might be able to solve my prob that I have. When I try to connect to the internet from ly ubuntu machine I cant while my windows machine can, I had this same prob when I installed fedora. I can ping www.google.com though... any idead?07:30
Leonesudharsh,  here is ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ls /media07:30
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VGambithow do I patch the kernel with suspend2? x.o07:30
sudharshLeone: oh..'mount /dev/<root_of_the_ubuntu_installation> /media'07:31
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TGPOXaser: ping goes out on a different port than http, check you router/firewall07:31
XaserTGPO: my router should be fine as my windows machine can access the net fine?07:32
Leonesudharsh : ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media07:32
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sudharshLeone: ok great..now 'sudo chroot /media'07:33
TGPOXaser: do you have a gateway that you have to go through?07:33
tonyyarussoBHSPitLappy: How so?07:33
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XaserTPGO: My ADSL modem07:33
Leonesudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo chroot /media07:33
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TGPOXaser: the fact that you can ping out means you have some connectivity but port 80 is blocked for some reason07:34
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sudharshLeone: now try 'sudo pppoeconf' first07:34
VGambitwhere is the kernel tree in ubuntu?07:34
dekhow do I unload the x-server and use Ubuntu in console mode?07:34
BHSPitLappytonyyarusso, well, the entire screen went unresponsive, my cursor became jittery, and my hard drive LED started flickering incessantly for an indefinite period of time, for no apparent reason (all awhile my music still played)07:34
greenmanokay so i'm in ubuntu.  in all it's command line glory07:34
Leonesudharsh,  root@dhcppc0:/# sudo pppoeconf07:34
LeoneWarning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.07:34
Leone/usr/sbin/pppoeconf: line 439: modconf: orden no encontrada07:34
TGPOdek ctrl alt f107:34
greenmanthe first thing i need help with is configuring the eth0 connectiong07:35
dekTGP0: that doesn't unload X Server, only sends me to virtual terminal07:35
tonyyarussoBHSPitLappy: Whacky07:35
sudharshLeone: oh! 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up'07:35
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BHSPitLappytonyyarusso, yeah, not exactly what I expected from my stable, LTS system07:35
TGPOdek login there and then init.d stop gdm07:35
sudharshLeone: be patient..:P07:35
TGPOdek that kills your xserver07:36
dekTGPO: what is gdm? Desktop Manager?07:36
Leoneyes sudharsh07:36
Leoneroot@dhcppc0:/# sudo ifconfig eth0 up07:36
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gameoveri need some help... i cant access https sites07:36
sudharshLeone: try pinging 'ping google.com'07:36
Leoneroot@dhcppc0:/# ping google.com07:37
LeonePING google.com ( 56(84) bytes of data.07:37
Leone64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=170 ms07:37
MadCowBoygameover what browser?07:37
TGPOdek gdm/kdm/xdm ect are the logon interface that calls Xserver, kill that and you kill X07:37
MadCowBoynewer install?07:37
gameoverneither amsn07:37
gameoverfirefox and swiftfox07:37
sudharshLeone: you are getting connected _from_ your installed ubuntu07:37
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gameoverboth just re-installed07:38
Leonei hope07:38
Leonehey i got a question07:38
sudharshLeone: you have chrooted..to it mate..so you are getting conncted from it07:38
greenmancan someone help me set up networking?07:38
MadCowBoyhang on, I remember a fix that might work (it was awhile ago though) two secs07:39
Leoneso , if i restart now , and enter to my installed ubuntu , i will be conected?07:39
Leoneor not sudharsh ?07:39
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dekTGPO: how do I run the init.d stop gdm command? it doesnt recognize it, and /etc/init.d is a directory07:39
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abarbacciahey all - is the generic kernel in edgy smp?07:39
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brainogreenman: whats the problem?07:39
TGPOdek: one sec07:39
jbroomesudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:39
sudharshLeone: dont think so...jus a sec...i ll check where my settigs are sitting07:39
jbroomeabarbaccia: yes07:39
Leoneok sudharsh , i wait07:39
greenmanright now it's dhcp and i need to hard code it in there,07:40
TGPOdek what jbroome said07:40
dekTGPO: I think i found it, it should be /etc/init.d/kdm stop07:40
dekI was searching on forum :P07:40
MadCowBoypm me?07:40
TGPOdek thar she be matey07:40
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BHSPitLappytonyyarusso, needless to say, losing the e-mail I was writing, among other pending works really pissed me off07:40
gameoversorry... what pm means?07:40
MadCowBoysorry private message me?07:41
sudharshLeone: give me the output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces'07:41
brainogreenman: is your router setup for dhcp?07:41
Leonesudharsh,  here http://paste.debian.net/1542907:41
greenmanbraino, yes, but this is a web server and thus needs static ip.  i know there is a way to give the computer an ip...07:42
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tonyyarussoBHSPitLappy: Never fun.  That's the moment you wish you'd enabled auto save in your e-mail client.07:42
greenmani seem to have misplaced it.07:42
IcomeyIs there anyway I can change a delete a partition in ubuntu?07:42
BHSPitLappytonyyarusso, well, it seems GMail's auto-draft works.07:42
MadCowBoygame over: open firefox...in the address bar type about:config.... are you with me so far?07:42
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BHSPitLappybut principally, what happened was wrong07:43
brainothen have your router always assign it the same ip07:43
XaserTGPO: when I go to www.canyouseeme.org on my windows machine,it cant find me on port 80, so how would my win machine work?07:43
tonyyarussoBHSPitLappy: Yes.07:43
TGPOXaser, looks like you have a software firewall up and you'll have to open port 8007:44
MadCowBoygameover: open firefox...in the address bar type about:config.... are you with me so far?07:44
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MadCowBoyhit enter, in the filter bar type 4007:44
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MadCowBoypress enter07:44
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Leonesudharsh, sis u saw the direction i paste 4 u?07:44
XaserTGPO: on my win machine I do, but unless ubuntu come preinstalled with one not on it07:45
gameover4 security variables.. all set to true07:45
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MadCowBoydo you see a variable named security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md507:45
MadCowBoyshould be false right now,07:45
gameoverits true :$07:45
gameoveri should set it to false?07:45
sudharshLeone: yes...now add 'auto eth0' after '#primary networkk interface'07:46
MadCowBoyits what its supposed to be, should be true07:46
TGPOXaser, there are only so many places port 80 can be blocked, its its not gateway or router then it has to be OS level07:46
Leonesudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ auto eth007:46
Leonebash: auto: command not found07:46
sudharshLeone: no that was not a command :)07:46
gameoveralready true... what else could it be?07:46
MadCowBoysorry, I had the same problem, that was the setting change I made to fix it, security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5 False to True07:46
sudharshLeone: open uo another terminal07:46
Leoneahh ok07:46
MadCowBoyanyone else?07:46
Leoneyes sorry07:47
IcomeyIs there anyway I can change a delete a partition in ubuntu?07:47
gameoverok.. thanks anyway07:47
sudharshLeone: 'sudo gedit /media/etc/network/interfaces'07:47
TGPOIcomy: yes parted07:47
MadCowBoywhat site are you trying to access?07:47
TGPOIcomy: not wise though07:48
IcomeyIt's an unused partition.07:48
Leonehey , sudharsh  , in what line i must add it?07:48
Leonesudharsh,  forget it07:48
sudharshLeone: now add 'auto eth0' before the last line07:48
sudharshLeone: anywhere actually07:48
TGPOIcomy: why not just map it in, in you /etc/fstab07:48
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IcomeyI want to delete it so I have a ~100GB empty space available for slack.07:49
Leonesudharsh,  its ok , # The primary network interface07:49
Leoneiface eth0 inet dhcp07:49
Leoneauto eth007:49
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sudharshLeone: make it07:49
Leoneso its ok sudharsh ?07:49
TGPOIcomy: *me sees the light*07:49
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sudharshauto eth007:49
TGPOIcomy: normally screwing with partitions is a fast way to a headache07:49
sudharshLeone: now reboot and tell me whats up07:50
Leoneits ok so?07:50
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sudharshlet auto eth0 before iface eth0 inet dhcp just in case07:50
Leoneok i will change07:51
Leonebefore reset i must umounted?07:51
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MadCowBoygameover: sorry bud, try and ask again,07:52
XaserTPGO: even when I forward port 80 for my ubuntu machine its still not getting anywhere..  do you have any more suggestions?07:52
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gameoverits ok.. thanks so much07:53
XaserTPGO: I can get to www.canyouseeme.org from ubuntu but still not anywhere else?07:53
TGPOXaser: fresh out, mebbe one of the others might have a handle on it07:53
TGPOXaser: you can see a website?07:54
XaserTGPO: cheers for the attempt. Thanks07:54
gameoversomeone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?07:54
XaserTGPO: I can see www.canyouseeme.org07:54
XaserTGPO: but still not www.google or anythign else07:55
TGPOXaser: now its getting wierd, you can see one website but no others. thats screwier than a little bit07:55
greenmani can't get my stupid internet to work, can someone please help me?07:55
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MadCowBoygameover, what version of firefox, what ubuntu version are you using?07:56
sudharshgreenman: adsl?07:56
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greenmansudharsh: cable07:56
XaserTGPO: LOL  yeah, this is the I had with fedora too07:56
greenmani'm just trying to configure the stupid eth0.  it's not working07:56
Xasergreenman: can you connect to www.canyouseeme.org?07:56
TGPOXaser: racking my brain ... been to long since I studied the idiot net+ stuff07:57
sudharshgreenman: even after ifconfig eth0 up07:57
gameoverubuntu dapper, swiftfox
greenmanXaser, the output of ifconfig eth0 is no IP address.07:57
greenmansudharsh: yeah07:57
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sudharshgreenman: oh07:57
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rbilgreenman, you probably haven't setup the gateway then07:58
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TGPOXaser: as an expirament, do you have traceroute installed?07:58
greenmani'm pretty sure i have, this is what i've got07:58
sudharshgreenman: route add default gw <ip>07:58
greenmaniface eht0 inet static07:58
MadCowBoysorry gameover, I'm at a loss,07:58
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greenmangateway address
XaserTGPO: not by the looks of it07:59
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rbilgreenman, did u restart networking after making changes?08:00
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TGPOXaser: apt-get it and try traceroute a few random websites, see if you can trace out08:00
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XaserTGPO: yes, from system, network tools08:00
morghanphoenixAnybody know the packages for glibc 2.2 and GTK+ 1.2?08:00
greenmani think so, i did an eth0 down and an eth0 up08:00
gameoversomeone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?08:01
greenmanhmm...  i think i may have it...08:01
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greenmani have an ip address now, but i can't ping.  network unreachable...08:01
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jason_something messed up my system settings (me likely :P )... I get the following all the time:   Sorry - KDE Panel  >>  Could not find mime type application/octet-stream  <OK>    ---- advice to fix??08:02
XaserTGPO: no trace for www.google.com08:02
jason_oh, good morning everyone :)08:02
jason_greenman: whats the prob?08:02
rbilgreenman, try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart08:03
TGPOXaser: this is odd, I just tried tracing and pinging you .. you dont exits (isnt that nice)08:03
greenmanah.  the route add seems to have done the trick.  okay, networking is working so that's good.08:03
XaserTGPO: /cry08:03
greenmannow, don't i need to do some kind of update or something?  see if things need upgrading?08:03
XaserTGPO: what addy did you try?08:03
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Xaserthats it...08:04
greenmani have to get my wifes blog back up before i do anything else.08:04
XaserTGPO: you should be able to connect to ftp://my addy08:04
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XaserTGPO: I can get to www.canyouseeme.org but not traceroute it :S08:05
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TGPOXaser: :?08:06
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TGPOanyone else got an idea for Xaser? this one seems outside me08:06
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feethow do i change the current gtk and qt themes when neither kde or gnome are installed? thanks in advance :)08:09
gameoversomeone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?08:09
Admiral_Chicagogameover: check your SSL settings08:10
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gameover??? about:config? you mean? or where?08:10
CarinArris there an easy way to make ubuntu use a particular network profile when booting?08:11
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Admiral_Chicagogameover: are you connected via a proxy?08:13
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Admiral_Chicagowhat is your web browser08:13
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ccookefeet: there's gtk-theme-switch in universe, which'll do gtk themes without gnome installed08:15
ccookefeet: there's probably something like it for qt08:15
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gameoveri cant access at my school,08:16
gameoverbut its not behind a proxy...  and from windows i have can access08:17
feetoh cool08:17
feetthanks ccooke08:17
greenman i backed up my mysql installation as a .sql file.  if I load that will that take care of putting the root password back?08:17
feetqt3-qtconfig is a qt thing ... which doesnt do jack to kde programs =\ ...08:17
Xasergameover: can you access www.canyouseeme.org and www.google.com?08:18
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gameoverbut no gmail, hotmail. or https sites...08:18
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JNeverMindis it possible to ssh into my ubuntu server machine and get su somehow08:18
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feetoh dear...08:19
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feethow do i change the current gtk+2 theme when gnome is not installed? gtk-theme-switch changed only gtk 1 apps08:20
JNeverMindsorry im trying to figure out how me (user) can overwrite some html files belonging to another user08:20
JNeverMindi can only think of su? shit08:20
Tomcat_JNeverMind: Make it the same group and group writable, or make it world writable. :o08:20
JNeverMindim such a newb08:21
LynoureJNeverMind: sudo works fine, too08:21
sudharshfeet: gtk-theme-switch208:21
feetlovely, thankya08:22
feetno such package08:22
sudharshfeet: install it :)08:22
feeti cant, no such package08:22
sudharshfeet: i am sure thats the command...but dunno what package offers that..jus a se08:23
feetoh wait08:23
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feetoh yeh i got it08:24
feetheh mistyped08:24
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gameoverbut no gmail, hotmail. or https sites...08:25
JNeverMindi cant make sudo work over ssh08:25
JNeverMindmaybe its my sshd config ?08:25
JNeverMindsorry i needto do alot more reading08:25
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feetas long as im asking about interface, how do i shrink the interface font on xmms? its enormous and rather annoying o_o08:28
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marcrosoftwhat is the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?08:30
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Rookie_upgrade, current system - dist-upgrade, new dist08:31
capt-rogersfeet, i am sure it is in there somewhere.....and you can always try 'beep' too. very xmms like.....08:31
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capt-rogersapt-get install beep should work?08:31
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feetyea but a lot slower08:32
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feetwell not a lot... but my pc aint the fastest :P08:32
ramusmy boot sequence hangs at 'begin: running /scripts/local-bottom' and /scripts/init-bottom08:32
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KenSentMeHow can i see what packages where updated in the last upgrade i did?08:32
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huckHello, can someone tell me a good IM client for video conferencing?08:34
huckvideo chat maybe I should say... I dont need anything really professional08:34
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KenSentMehuck: i not sure, but i thought aMSN supported video, or you can try Ekiga08:35
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rbilanyone using etherape? It's quite a neat app.08:35
noiahow do I mount an NTFS drive in read-only?08:35
huckcool, thanks. I'll check those out08:35
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:35
CarinArris there an easy way to make ubuntu use a particular network profile when booting?08:35
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MatsyI have a question about DNS.08:36
MatsyHow can I make ubuntu, not make my Router be a DNS server automatically?08:36
capt-rogersin the old days i used to the the mpg321, or was it mpg123? to play mp3s right from the terminal..so gui at all...it was very cpu friendly.....it was on a 486/3308:36
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noiahmm...very handy indeed :)08:40
KenSentMeWhich packages runs the program at System|Administration|Network ?08:40
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kholerabb1How do I change my language?08:41
KenSentMekholerabb1: System|Administration|Languagesupport08:42
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MatsyYou mean this?:08:43
kholerabb1KenSentMe: I think that just allows you to install new languages and choose default, but I can't seem to actually change this users language :(08:44
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KenSentMekholerabb1: ah, could be. Then i wouldn't know08:46
kholerabb1ah, thanks anyway08:46
bluefox83how would i make a quick userlist button in xchat to launch mplayer to load and play my local radio station streaming server?08:46
MatsyThis is bugging me >_>08:46
kholerabb1does ubuntu have a webcam veiwer?08:47
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
kholerabb1any preinstalled?08:47
bluefox83no, you need to install them through your package manager08:48
kholerabb1ok thanks08:48
noiawhats a nice simple stress testing application I can run to perform a burn-in process in linux?08:48
bluefox83burn has a stress testing flag O.o08:48
noiabluefox83,  burn?08:49
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bluefox83it's a program you run in terminal08:49
bluefox83for burning cd's or dvds08:49
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chivosolaroh yeah another xp box has been upgraded to ubuntu08:51
chivosolari also ran easyubuntu08:51
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bluefox83upgraded huh?08:51
iLLf8danyone know how you set gnomes file browser to open folders in the same window08:51
kholerabb1Do I need to eject a usb flash drive before removing? is it safe just to pull it?08:51
bluefox83i prefer to think of it as converted..as it's an entirely different operating system08:52
kholerabb1iLLf8d: yes, go preferences08:52
MatsyYou can just pull it.08:52
MatsyBut, it's always better ejecting it.08:52
chivosolaris there a package set for setting up joomla on ubuntu that might be similar to JSAS08:52
timfrostkholerabb1: If you just pull it, while data is being written, you risk corrupting the files being written08:52
iLLf8dkholerabb1, prefs what? I don't see it in file management08:52
kholerabb1iLLf8d: open nautilus, edit>preferences, go to "behaviour", "open window in same window"08:52
bluefox83usb uses hotplug..it'll recognise when you pull it..wont hurt anything08:52
iLLf8dah thanks08:53
Madpilotkholerabb1, eject is safer08:53
kholerabb1bluefox83: I remember reading on wikipedia that it could damage the drive if you pulled it while it was writing08:53
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sergevnbluefox83: isn't it wise to always umount the device before removing, also if it's hot pluggable.08:53
chivosolarbluefox83 perhaps you know how to get a FileMake Client to run under ubuntu08:54
kholerabb1hmmmn, I suppose there must BE a reason why they have the eject there. So I will08:54
bluefox83...how the hell did i become the go-to person all of a sudden?08:54
chivosolarsorry FileMaker Client08:54
purefanHello guys! complete amateur here looking for assistance, im trying to install the drivers for my ATI x1600 on ubuntu 6.06 32bits, was pointed to this address: http://eomer.mine.nu/?q=node/20 but when I do: apt-get install fglrx-kernel-src fglrx-driver I get : E: Couldn't find package fglrx-kernel-src is it safe to go on or what should I do?08:54
chivosolarbluefox83 you bust be openly chatty or something08:54
bluefox83of course it'll damage it if you do it while it's writing to it..08:54
bluefox83wait till it's done, then pull it08:55
chivosolarpurefan: do a search for easyubuntu and use that to install the ati drivers08:55
sergevnbluefox83: ok thx.08:55
purefanchivosolar: thanks mate im on it :D08:55
kholerabb1I'll just eject, 'cuase then I wont accidentally get carried away and pull it while its writing :)08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
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agonifiedhello everybody08:59
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MatsyHello agonified09:00
agonifiedi ve got a problem09:00
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variantlol, the "unix guru" at my job is a noob, i was talking to him about why he doesnt use the old sun spark boxes which we have and he says "linux stopped supporting spark cpus with version 7.1"!!!!09:00
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variantthats when i stopped talking to him09:00
Matsy LOLOL09:00
boinkvariant: why use linux on sunhardware?09:01
mneptoki wonder if he spells it "SPARC," though ;)09:01
boinkSunOS  10 works quite well09:01
variantboink: because sol sucks09:01
jaaayhi ppl. can someone help me? I need to configure my NIC to force=10baseT-FD at boot time09:01
agonifiedthis night when I tried to login my local ubuntu, I just see Xdmcp login screen not my gdm greeting screen to type my username/password09:01
boinklike SVM ?09:01
agonifiedhow can I fix it?09:01
variantjaaay: you want full duplex?09:01
boinkwhat's the linux equiv of SVM? if you have some D-1000?09:01
jaaayvariant, yeah, especially 10baseT. I use mii-tool now, but it reverts at boot09:02
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variantjaaay: ethtool09:02
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boinklinux is getting there on sparc, but it has a long way to go09:02
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variantboink: no way!09:02
variantbsd pwns on spark anyway09:02
chivosolarhmmmm whats this   ISPconfig i just  read about - is that an ubuntu server manager ??09:02
boinkagain, about D-1000? SVM? answer me on that?09:02
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variantboink: me? i have no idea, that a tape drive?09:03
jaaayvariant, will it change permanently?09:03
purefanok now ive downloaded the EasyUbuntu and as the page said I copy&pasted:" wget http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add - " now I got a " saved [2415/2415]  " so it looks like its all done, but the terminal isnt finished working, like it is still blinking but without the normal prompt and like running the program still, is this normal? should I go on? [[ please bare...09:03
purefan...with me im a real novice on ubuntu...] ] 09:03
variantjaaay: not sure, lemmy check09:03
boinkvariant: example .. know what you're talking about.09:03
variantboink: I am talking about a really old sun box here09:03
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boinkfor a museum? ok09:03
variantboink: the point is, i may not know a lot, but it's more than our "linux guru"09:04
zoidberghey guys how do you change the language in GNOME desktop?09:04
variantzoidberg: select your language on the login screen09:04
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ictoanthbtyi dont know if this has been asked before or what, or if im not supposed to ask about it,09:05
ictoanthbtybut is edgy available anywhere yet09:05
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purefanoops nevermind on that one ;)09:05
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Flannelictoanthbty: edgy will be released on the 26th09:06
ictoanthbty*sighs* alright. ill be patient.09:06
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Flannelictoanthbty: well, you can get edgy RC1 currently, and upgrade to the final when it arrives (and help find bugs in the meantime)09:06
ictoanthbty:P here in aust we have things called internet quotas09:07
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ictoanthbtyi dont want to download it twice09:07
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CarinArrdoes anyone know where the location profiles in the network admin are saved?09:07
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CarinArrjust it's dead slow so would be nice to edit by hand09:07
purefanCAWABONGA!! Easyubuntu is working its magic!09:07
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variantjaaay: yeah you need to put it in a startup script09:08
jaaayaha variant, newbie question: how do you do that? :)09:08
fr3ddy-fr3shhi folks. is there ff and thunderbird on the ubuntu disk??09:08
variantjaaay: make a simple two liner text file and shove it in /etc/init.d/09:09
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variantjaaay: then do update-rc.d scriptname defaults09:09
variantjaaay: the script need to have +x09:09
variantso chmod +x scriptname09:09
zoidbergguys how do i change the display language in GNOME...i didnt see it in the login screen09:09
jaaay let's try09:09
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purefanim going to restart, seems like just thats left now to get the 3D acceleration working :)09:10
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supermanHey, who cares.09:10
supermanI don't09:10
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zoidbergcan someone help me please09:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:10
zoidberg how do i change the display language in GNOME...i didnt see it in the login screen09:10
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supermanHEY SHUT UP09:10
Madpilotsuperman, cool it.09:10
Matsy!ask How can I remove the automatic DNS resolving?09:10
variantzoidberg: we hear you first time09:10
mneptokzoidberg: system -> admin -> language support09:10
variantsuperman: no need to shout09:11
supermanCool what?09:11
supermanBut I h