[12:02] <jatt> ngeltt
[12:02] <PulsatingPenguin> Hey everyone...does anyone have any ideas what this error is about?  I'm getting during boot at "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System":  "Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block xxxxxx"
[12:03] <Shadowthrone> Hi, I downloaded eterm but can't seem to find it in the menus and bash doesn't recognise it. How can I run it?
[12:03] <bbrazil> PulsatingPenguin: sounds vaguely like a dying hard disk, or possibly just general corruption
[12:03] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, try to open a new bash session
[12:03] <SirKillalot> (open new terminal)
[12:04] <Shadowthrone> SirKillalot: still nothing. I tried updatedb too and nothing.
[12:04] <c0ldfusi0n> Hey guys, anyone having problem with ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64? When i try to install Ubuntu, X fails saying "no screens found" and throws me back to console... any ideas?
[12:04] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, updatedb won't do that what you want
[12:04] <PulsatingPenguin> bbrazil, yes, my first thought was that my NTFS partition was corrupted (I dualboot WinXP and Ubuntu) - I did a chkdsk /r on my NTFS partition, but nothing
[12:04] <x80> I got my modem driver installed successfully, when I try to use KPPP, it says "modem is ready", then "initializing modem" then the whole program disappears without a trace of an error message.
[12:04] <imme> Could anyone tell me if there is a way to connect to the windows network behind my gatewayrouter?
[12:04] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, try "locate eterm"
[12:04] <PulsatingPenguin> I would fsck the EXt3 one, but I cant get onto it
[12:04] <x80> Can anyone help?
[12:05] <x80> Imme: samba.
[12:05] <SirKillalot> x80, try ppoeconf or something, a command line tool
[12:05] <x80> Do i have to type out all the stinky modem strings?
[12:05] <Shadowthrone> SirKillalot: righto, lots of stuff in /var/lib and /usr/share/doc/
[12:05] <nbx909|linux> hello does anyobdy know if there is a how to install firefox 2.0 on dapper?
[12:05] <c0ldfusi0n> I installed it on my laptop fine though =/
[12:05] <SirKillalot> x80, what kind of modem?
[12:05] <ryanakca> in top, "Cpu(s): 16.5%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 78.9%id,  2.3%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st", what does '%id' represent? %idle?
[12:05] <x80> Lucent.
[12:06] <nbx909|linux> like the one for 1.5
[12:06] <x80> The driver is already installed.
[12:06] <cafuego> ryanakca: yes
[12:06] <nbx909|linux> ubotu, firefox
[12:06] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:06] <Lubix> hello what is that name of the package that includes to header libraries for building C programs!?!?!
[12:06] <x80> I ran a "query modem" it returned success.
[12:06] <nbx909|linux> ubotu, firefox 2
[12:06] <imme> x80: I did samba, also opened prts 137-139 tcp and udp, but it still doesn't work, what am I missing?
[12:06] <nbx909|linux> ubotu, firefox 2.0
[12:06] <nbx909|linux> damn
[12:06] <daskreech> can I add more desktops?
[12:06] <daskreech> like 6?
[12:06] <cafuego> daskreech: yes
[12:06] <Pierre> Lubix: pkgname-dev
[12:06] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, did you install it via apt-get?
[12:06] <daskreech> cafuego: where?
[12:06] <nbx909|linux> Lubix, linux-kernel-headers
[12:06] <ryanakca> cafuego: kk, ty
[12:07] <cafuego> daskreech: right click the desktop switcher
[12:07] <x80> Smb://internal.ip.here.
[12:07] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, are you sure that it is usable without enlightenment?
[12:07] <Shadowthrone> SirKillalot: yes, and when that didn't work I used Synaptic.
[12:07] <x80> To view shared files.
[12:07] <daskreech> cafuego: Right Duh :)
[12:07] <cpk2> imme: did you configure samba?
[12:07] <daskreech> cafuego: Thanks
[12:07] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, there is no difference between synaptic and apt-get
[12:07] <Shadowthrone> SirKillalot: yeah that's what I figured.
[12:07] <imme> cpk2: Not that I recall where do I do that?
[12:07] <SirKillalot> Shadowthrone, do you really need eterm?
[12:07] <SirKillalot> I mean there is aterm, xterm, gnome-terminal (what I prefer most)
[12:07] <ricanelite> Hello all
[12:08] <Shadowthrone> SirKillalot: I don't need it, no, but it ought to work and isn't.
[12:08] <c0ldfusi0n> Anyone can help with my "no screens found" issue?
[12:08] <SirKillalot> c0ldfusi0n, no
[12:08] <ricanelite> How can I change my screen resoluton because i know for sure my monitor could display 1280x1024
[12:08] <c0ldfusi0n> How come? =/
[12:09] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:09] <Dr_willis> c0ldfusi0n,  that means the X config is messed up some how..
[12:09] <imme> x80: internal ip works, but I cannot get behind my gateway.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> c0ldfusi0n,  use what jbmigel  said
[12:09] <cpk2> imme: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 that post should tell you everything you need
[12:09] <SirKillalot> ricanelite, set it up in the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file
[12:09] <c0ldfusi0n> I would jbmigel, but i'm *trying* to install Ubuntu, i get that error straight after booting on the CD
[12:09] <chuckyp> ricanelite, or you could dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:09] <c0ldfusi0n> Ubuntu isn't even installed yet, nor configured properly. I just thought the install CD would, i don't know, install it?
[12:09] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n that is interesting... do you have a special monitor setup or whack job graphics card?
[12:10] <c0ldfusi0n> Nope, i have a NEC E700 CRT monitor and an ATI X800
[12:10] <imme> thanks cpk2.
[12:10] <Lubix> Pierre: i cannot find that package
[12:10] <c0ldfusi0n> It detects the monitor fine in xorg.conf, it's there - but for some reason X won't start and tells me no screens found
[12:10] <PulsatingPenguin> Hey, can anyone give any further insights into my "buffer i/o error on dm-1, logical block" error?
[12:10] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n that doesnt sound to special
[12:11] <c0ldfusi0n> Great, i hate to be special.
[12:11] <spdf> c0ldfusi0n, You've installed the fglrx drivers?
[12:11] <c0ldfusi0n> I didn't install anything, i boot on the CD and i get that error
[12:11] <ricanelite> can someone tell me how can I change my screen resolution in Gnome because I know for sure my monitor can display 1280x1024 because it is only reading 1024x768
[12:11] <c0ldfusi0n> I want to install! But i can't.
[12:11] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n can you change your driver to VESA and try to startx please
[12:11] <ricanelite> can someone please help me out?
[12:12] <PulsatingPenguin> ricanelite, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[12:12] <PulsatingPenguin> it has a list of resoloutions inside
[12:12] <MetaMorfoziS> !resolution
[12:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:12] <ricanelite> where i do that
[12:12] <PulsatingPenguin> add the one you want
[12:12] <ZeN> I guess you are done with me spdf?
[12:12] <ricanelite> im new to linux
[12:12] <c0ldfusi0n> Let me reboot and try that, jbmigel, i'm pretty sure i've tried it. But i'll let you know in a few.
[12:12] <PulsatingPenguin> open text editor
[12:12] <spdf> ZeN, I can't really think of a way to get you going to be honest..
[12:12] <MetaMorfoziS> !resolution > ricanelite
[12:12] <PulsatingPenguin> no dont actually
[12:12] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n
[12:12] <c0ldfusi0n> Yes
[12:12] <spdf> ZeN, I can only find old world stuff on google
[12:13] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n also if you have an onboard video you might try using that till your installed?
[12:13] <PulsatingPenguin> ricanelite, opena terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <c0ldfusi0n> Well i think it should work.. i mean i get the Ubuntu "loading screen", i can access the console fine, it's just X that won't start because of that
[12:13] <ZeN> alright, thanks anyway.
[12:13] <Lubix> please help me!! i cant compile programs in C!!!!
[12:13] <Lubix> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:14] <jbmigel> Lubix sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:14] <Pierre> Lubix: don't be loud, it does hel.
[12:14] <x80> Gcc program.c.
[12:14] <x80> Lol.
[12:14] <c0ldfusi0n> Alright, i'll be right back after i try those things.
[12:14] <rag> Lubix: Pierre say you
[12:14] <ricanelite> is there a graphical setup??
[12:14] <x80> Testing wvdial now...
[12:14] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n good luck
[12:14] <Pierre> Lubix: you need a) build-essential and then the development package of the library you use, for example libxml-dev if you need libxml development files
[12:15] <PulsatingPenguin> ricanelite, no, not for changing the list of resoloutions
[12:15] <ricanelite> I remember someone telling me that there is a graphical one that I think runs in the terminal
[12:15] <cafuego> Either "if you can't figure it out, uou probasbly weren't meant to" or "libc6-dev"
[12:15] <Lubix> pierre: i cannot find build essenetials
[12:15] <PulsatingPenguin> you can go to desktop> Preferences > screen resoloution, but if the one you want is not there then edit the xorg.conf
[12:15] <ricanelite> alright i have the file open, how can i enter the resolutions?
[12:15] <PulsatingPenguin> find where it says "modes"
[12:15] <PulsatingPenguin> or "display modes"
[12:15] <cafuego> Lubix: 'build-essential' is what he said.
[12:15] <rag> Lubix: just build-essential
[12:16] <jbmigel> does the framebuffer run through X server? I would like dual CONSOLE monitors if its possible
[12:16] <cafuego> Creative spelling is not recommended.
[12:16] <ricanelite> Modes		"1024x768" "960x960"
[12:16] <Lubix> its not found
[12:16] <rag> Lubix: your reposotory...
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> ricanelite, yes
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> there
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> add the one you want
[12:16] <ricanelite> but there is about a couple of more lines that says that
[12:16] <cafuego> build-essential is in main
[12:16] <rag> somebody with benq joybook7000
[12:16] <leakd>  n8
[12:16] <ricanelite> do i enter the resolutions i want on each line?
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> yes add the one you want to all of them
[12:16] <rag> ?
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> yes
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> you do
[12:16] <PulsatingPenguin> on all the modes
[12:17] <Lubix> rag: what about it
[12:17] <PulsatingPenguin> they are all for different color depths
[12:17] <Lubix> rag: i have them all activated
[12:17] <sandy16> how can i make my mail command work in ubutnu? when i use it its saying no such command and when i tryto apt-get it its saying no such pacakage.
[12:17] <rbil> nicanelite, change to Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "960x960"  for the modelines that match default color depth you have chosen to use
[12:17] <sidny4> clear
[12:17] <cafuego> sandy16: it's in 'mailx' (you'll probably want postfix too.
[12:18] <rag> Lubix: projector? i need config projector with vga output
[12:18] <cafuego>  "960x960" ?
[12:18] <cafuego> Lubix: Check for typos. it's in there.
[12:18] <Lubix> rag: whats the repo that has it
[12:18] <rag> Lubix:
[12:18] <rag> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main
[12:18] <rag> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main
[12:18] <sidny4> why do I get Class or interface JAVA.util.Scanner not found in import. when I use gcj?
[12:19] <sandy16> cafuego, thanks alot dude
[12:19] <rag> Lubix: look this
[12:19] <cafuego> sandy16: np
[12:19] <PulsatingPenguin> can anyone help me with my error?  "Buffer I/O error on device dm-1, logical block xxxxx"?
[12:19] <rag> Lubix: after you must run apt-get update
[12:19] <jbmigel> PulsatingPenguin can you boot from cd and mount that drive?
[12:19] <rag> Lubix: and then aptitude install build-essential
[12:19] <Moosebuntu> .
[12:20] <ricanelite> Now the thing is when I'm typing in the resolution the others are moving into the other lines
[12:20] <ricanelite> is that okay?
[12:20] <PulsatingPenguin> jbmigel, I have no live CD but I could burn one
[12:20] <Moosebuntu> Help: I just formatted my drive using ext3, and I can't write to it.  Do I have to change permissions before I use it?  If so, how do I do this?
[12:20] <PulsatingPenguin> I suppose I could burn one, boot into it, and fsck the drive
[12:20] <rbil> ricanelite, yes, just wrapping
[12:20] <jbmigel> PulsatingPenguin unless you have another drive around with some linux on it
[12:20] <rag> Lubix: insert my lines above just on your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:21] <sandy16> cafuego, hey can you tell me whats this postfix configuration is?
[12:21] <PulsatingPenguin> no, unfortunately I dont
[12:21] <Lubix> does it matter if i have edgy running
[12:21] <dawz> hi guys
[12:21] <cafuego> sandy16: postfix is the smtp mail server; `mail' needs it to actually send mail out.
[12:21] <jbmigel> PulsatingPenguin ya then id make a boot disk
[12:21] <ricanelite> Now do i have to restart my computer when im done?
[12:22] <Spaceraverlinux> wierd... nautilus keeps dying on me
[12:22] <PulsatingPenguin> but it just started happening today, I have been running Dapper for a few months...I dont know what could have caused it
[12:22] <dawz> can someone help me with a little question : how can i remove programs from sessions window ?
[12:22] <rbil> Moosebuntu, check fstab and make sure that is setup properly now that you've changed format. And then sudo mount -a to reload fstab
[12:22] <Quash> I've getting a black screen of death with I hit the Live Desktop stage, loading Edgy 6.10 RC.  Can anyone help?  I've also just filed a bug report with more specific details.  But, I'd like to try to work through the bug some more to give the Ubuntu Bug team more details.
[12:22] <dawz> they seem to be stuck in the list
[12:22] <PulsatingPenguin> ricanelite, no just hit CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X
[12:22] <jbmigel> PulsatingPenguin could be a smart error, or hardware failure who knows... mount the drive and it might go away
[12:22] <Moosebuntu> rbil> thank you so much!
[12:23] <Lubix> rag: are your sure there isnt another name for it
[12:23] <Nophiq> dawz: click on the arrow in the panel
[12:23] <Moosebuntu> rbil> bash: fstab: command not found
[12:23] <foo> Is there anyway to restart X via cli?
[12:23] <Nophiq> dawz: and follow the remove track
[12:23] <Riggzy> killall X?  :p
[12:23] <dawz> Nophiq: wich arrow ?
[12:23] <rag> Lubix: what name?
[12:23] <rbil> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:23] <Moosebuntu> ah! it's a file.  Thanks
[12:23] <Lubix> rag:build-essentials
[12:23] <PulsatingPenguin> jbmigel, ok, thanks.  I will try burning a liveCD and booting from that...then removing the option to mount my windows partition at boot, in case that is it, I will also fsck the drive :)
[12:24] <Lubix> rag: i cannot find it
[12:24] <rbil> Moosebuntu, first make a backup of fstab ....
[12:24] <Nophiq> dawz: where tou can choose the desktop, and where is the time
[12:24] <hejsa> I got a problem with my ati xorg driver, it looks like ive fucked it up. It has been working fine up till now, but i fucked after trying to optimize my xgl-beryl thingie. now i cant install the ati driver, im stuck with the mesa driver. fglrxinfo, modprobe fglrx and xorg.conf at http://pastebin.sekati.com/?id=fglrxinfoxorgconf@2f5bb-d5edf5b4-t . What do i do {
[12:24] <rntkr> foo: restarting gdm works, if you are using gnome
[12:24] <rbil> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.back
[12:24] <rag> Lubix: just we say you build-essential
[12:24] <Nophiq> dawz: you can find also some arrows
[12:24] <Moosebuntu> ok
[12:24] <Nophiq> dawz: I think so
[12:24] <Quash> Can anyone help with what I think me be a video driver issue with Edgy, which prevents the loading of the Live Desktop?
[12:24] <jbmigel> PulsatingPenguin you might want to add, mounting the drive and backin up your data in there somewhere
[12:24] <dawz> Nophiq: i can't remove a program. I can't click on remove or edit
[12:24] <rag> Lubix: put attention without 's'
[12:24] <Lubix> rag: there is  not a package  called build-essentials
[12:25] <rag> Lubix: lubix.....
[12:25] <Bird> Are their any free programs that will let me play game windows games on ubuntu ?
[12:25] <imme> cpk2: That was ot the thing I was looking for. Good HOWTO anyway.
[12:25] <rag> Lubix: build-essential without 's'
[12:25] <vorbote> Lubix: build-essentia.
[12:25] <Lubix> ok im sorry
[12:25] <vorbote> Lubix: build-essential, pardon me
[12:25] <PulsatingPenguin> jbmigel, ok, I will.  Thanks :)
[12:25] <Lubix> i found it
[12:25] <Spaceraverlinux> Bird, use wine
[12:25] <cpk2> imme: that wasnt what you needed?
[12:25] <rag> Lubix: please put more attentio
[12:25] <rag> n
[12:26] <Lubix> rag: do i hafta do anything after its installed or will gcc now work correctly
[12:26] <Nophiq> dawz: probably I don't understand what is the session windows, is the men start?
[12:26] <jbmigel> Lubix you write c code?
[12:26] <hejsa> Lubix, you can use apt-cache search if you are unsure of the name
[12:26] <Lubix> i still have the same problem
[12:26] <imme> cpk2: No, this is only for this side of the gateway, I want to acces the part on the other side of the gateway.
[12:26] <Lubix> jbmigel: i am tring
[12:26] <Lubix> trying
[12:26] <goose> how does one use a movie as a screensaver    with gnome-screensaver ?
[12:26] <dawz> Nophiq: System > Preferences > Sessions
[12:26] <dawz> Nophiq: gnome session management
[12:26] <rag> Lubix: you try compile
[12:27] <Moosebuntu> rbil> fstab doesn't contain the second hard drive that I just added.  Do I need to add it?
[12:27] <rag> Lubix: repeat make
[12:27] <cpk2> imme: you mean you want samba on wan & lan?
[12:27] <jbmigel> Lubix thats awesome man good luck! you will probably need to open a new command after build-essential install
[12:27] <rbil> yep
[12:27] <hejsa> Anyone who is able to and willing to help me with my ati driver problem ?
[12:27] <imme> cpk2: yep
[12:27] <hobbesmaster> i'm getting extremely poor video performance on my laptop, I'm trying to use the radeon open source driver on a thinkpad t41, (radeon 9000 mobile.... M9, R250) glxinfo output is here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28016/  it seems that its using mesa3d?  is that right?
[12:27] <Nophiq> dawz: sorry i use KDE (I know that ubuntu use only gnome-session, but now I am in KDE)
[12:28] <cpk2> imme: I think you could just set up an apache server for that...?
[12:28] <dawz> Nophiq: ok, I understand you can't help me ;-)
[12:28] <hejsa> hobbesmaster, you con use the fglrx driver i think
[12:28] <imme> cpk2: but then I cannot acces the other computers inside the windows network right?
[12:28] <imme> cpk2: they can then only access me.
[12:28] <Spaceraverlinux> !seen Hobbsee
[12:28] <ubotu> I last saw Hobbsee (n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee) 7h 54m 32s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[12:28] <Lubix> rag: let me show you what my problem is
[12:28] <cpk2> true, but I am talking for the wan
[12:28] <imme> cpk2: I already got apache up and running, that's the first thing.
[12:29] <cpk2> for lan samba shouldnt be a problem
[12:29] <rag> Lubix: show me
[12:29] <Lubix> ok i got a pm open with you
[12:29] <Lubix> let me put it there > rag
[12:29] <rag> Lubix: ill try it
[12:29] <YoussefAssad> hello
[12:29] <Quash> Can I get any suggestions on a good video card to buy for Edgy, AIGXL/Beryl.  I can give you my system specs.
[12:29] <rag> Lubix: what?
[12:29] <YoussefAssad> can anyone recommend a nice (smallish and preferably unicode) font for a terminal?
[12:30] <Lubix> rag: error message in pm
[12:30] <hikenboot> please...is there noone who knows anything about the nvida-glx drivers...I am unable to get direct rendering: yes when logged in as any user thru gdm but can as root startx and direct rendering works...I added the user to the root user group but it still doesnt work...any ideas at all?
[12:30] <rag> Lubix: pm ? whats?
[12:30] <Moosebuntu> rbil> fstab doesn't contain the second hard drive that I just added.  Do I need to add it?
[12:30] <Jfrench> Does Cedega Still have its free 14 day trial? I want to try it after failing with wine. Trasngaming doesnt make it all to easy to find the free trial on their site.
[12:30] <YoussefAssad> 1/j #aterm
[12:30] <Lubix> rag:rivate message
[12:30] <hobbesmaster> hejsa: but I want to use the free one, from what I understand it works better with power management on this laptop
[12:30] <YoussefAssad> blah
[12:30] <Quash> I think my current video card won't be properly supported by Edgy.  It's an ATI 9200 SE.
[12:30] <rag> Lubix: ok
[12:30] <imme> cpk2: Well you see, it's like this, I'm behind a network that is a lousy ISP(comes with the renting of my room), when I plug into my wallsocket immediately I _can_ access the windows network(I believe), but when I connect through my gateway-router I cannot anymore.
[12:30] <TheLance> hey can someone tell me how to install a GDM screen?
[12:30] <TheLance> GDM theme*
[12:31] <rbil> Moosebuntu, yes you'll need to add it. you'll need to know the /dev/* it is and have a directory in your file system to mount it into
[12:31] <Lubix> rag: dev.c:1:20: error:  stdio.h: No such file or directory
[12:31] <Lubix> dev.c:3: error: ::main must return int
[12:31] <Lubix> dev.c: In function int main():
[12:31] <Lubix> dev.c:5: error: printf was not declared in this scope
[12:31] <jbmigel> hobbesmaster i find the free driver ati support more than adequate. are you sure it is on? ATI is your driver?
[12:31] <rag> Lubix: but , its better for you, type here because other users can help you
[12:31] <rbil> Moosebuntu to find out what /dev it is, you can do this ...  sudo fdisk -l   (that's an ell)
[12:31] <Lubix> rag: there it is
[12:31] <variant> compengi: in what way?
[12:32] <Lubix> rag: just a simple hello world type program
[12:32] <Moosebuntu> fdisk, on linux? wow
[12:32] <hejsa> hobbesmaster, they got a guide on ubuntuguide.org i think
[12:32] <rag> Lubix: on c?
[12:32] <Moosebuntu> rbil> thank you for your help
[12:32] <Lubix> rag:yeas
[12:32] <spdf> hikenboot, check your xorg.conf, does it have a Section "DRI" in there? Likely at the bottom..
[12:32] <rbil> Moosebuntu, create a mount point somewhere in your file system and then after you've got both figured out you can add drive to fstab
[12:32] <Jfrench> Does Cedega Still have its free 14 day trial? I want to try it after failing with wine. Trasngaming doesnt make it all to easy to find the free trial on their site.
[12:32] <variant> compengi: if you want greater than is in ubuntu repos you have to either find a custom debian/ubuntu deb or download hte installer from nvidia
[12:32] <Bird> I used sudo apt-get install wine     to install wine but how do I use it and locate it now?
[12:32] <rag> Lubix: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:32] <c0ldfusi0n> Alright jbmigel, that didn't work at all
[12:33] <fg32> what is xubuntu?
[12:33] <rag> Lubix: your problems are headers not found, i think it
[12:33] <hobbesmaster> jbmigel: yes, I'll paste in xorg.conf just to be sure (its something of a mess): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28017/
[12:33] <imme> cpk2: So it's not just about opening ports, now is it?
[12:33] <c0ldfusi0n> The onboard video did nothing at all, and changing ati driver for vesa didn't do anything either
[12:33] <Lubix> rag: where are the headers?
[12:33] <Comrade_S> fg32: ubuntu with the XFCE window manager
[12:33] <spdf> Bird, wine <Executable>, You'll probably want to run winecfg first (from the terminal)
[12:33] <rag> fg32, ubuntu with xfce desktop? for old machines :)
[12:33] <fg32> ok, so minimal desktop apps and such?
[12:33] <Comrade_S> yup
[12:33] <Vge> hi, how do i remove ubuntu desctop from my xubuntu installation?
[12:33] <seth_arch> hello
[12:34] <cpk2> imme: i dont think so
[12:34] <Lubix> rag: will i have the headers now
[12:34] <rag> Lubix: just run : aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:34] <rag> Lubix: ok compile again
[12:34] <variant> fg32: xfce is not _for_ old machines, it just happens to run very well on them as it is well programmed
[12:34] <imme> cpk2: thanks for your time anyway.
[12:34] <Lubix> g++ or gcc?
[12:34] <Moosebuntu> rgil> it is '/dev/hdb1'.  How do I create a mount point?  Sorry, I'm new at this. :(
[12:34] <seth_arch> If I install 6.10-rc sould I be able to update to 6.10 smouthly when it comes?
[12:34] <c0ldfusi0n> Alright anyone can tell me where to download Ubuntu DVDs and not that 700mb thing? Whatever's different might work...
[12:34] <variant> seth_arch: yes
[12:34] <Lubix> rag: still the same stuff
[12:34] <seth_arch> variant: Thanks you
[12:34] <seth_arch> lol no s
[12:34] <fg32> so like P2 and 128mb of ram...
[12:35] <variant> fg32: yeah
[12:35] <rbil> Moosebuntu, where do you want to see that new hard drive within your file system?
[12:35] <variant> fg32: it would run nice on that
[12:35] <fg32> dang, should have used that for my buddies laptop...
[12:35] <rag> fg32, variant, old machines
[12:35] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n if your going that route id get the server install disk... then add your gui later
[12:35] <Lubix> rag: the files where installed still wont compile
[12:35] <variant> fg32: just be sure to use the xfce4.4 beta, it is streets ahead of the older versiions
[12:35] <cpk2> imme: i have a feeling its because connecting to the wall socket you are on 192.168.1.xxx network then on router you change to the routers own network
[12:35] <c0ldfusi0n> jbmigel: they're all single-cds setups?
[12:35] <rbil> Moosebuntu, what format does it have? what size drive?
[12:35] <variant> rag: I use it on new machines too because it is so well written
[12:36] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n yes it is single cd but it doesnt install xorg
[12:36] <rag> variant, too
[12:36] <c0ldfusi0n> ok i can just apt-get install xorg; startx afterwards?
[12:36] <danielm> hmm, am i correct in assuming that installing ruby-gnome2 will allow me to run the sample programs on ruby-gnome2's website? because they don't. even hello world doesn't.
[12:36] <Moosebuntu> rbil> \home\adam somewhere I think
[12:36] <Lubix> rag: i really want to start learning C
[12:36] <danielm> i did see a problem with it a while ago in the archives
[12:36] <Bird> I just did wine cfg and it said it made it in /home/kyle/.wine how do I find it now I tried to find it by going to home folder and looking but couldnt find it
[12:36] <danielm> but alexandria runs fine
[12:36] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n yes ubuntu-desktop is the package... your sure you dont have some weird usb thing plugged into your keyboard/monitor maybe?
[12:36] <Moosebuntu> rbil> ext3... 160GB
[12:36] <rbil> Moosebuntu, what format is that drive?
[12:36] <Comrade_S> Bird: hit ctrl-h in your home folder
[12:37] <spdf> Bird, When a folder is preceeded by a . it hides it..
[12:37] <rbil> ok, hold on ...
[12:37] <Moosebuntu> rbil> ext3
[12:37] <Moosebuntu> :)
[12:37] <Comrade_S> Bird, ctrl-h shows all hidden files
[12:37] <c0ldfusi0n> Well as far as i can see, there's the power that's in the power, and the video adapter that's in my ATI card, nothing else in between
[12:37] <sidny4> how do I install sun's JVM?
[12:37] <rag> Lubix: ok look google --> and search just: "getting started C" or "getting started gcc"
[12:37] <fg32> uses automatix2
[12:37] <soundray> !java
[12:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:37] <rag> Lubix, sorry but i need resolve other problems for me
[12:37] <rag> Lubix: now
[12:38] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n it would be nice to know what is different about your hardware that xorg cant seem to recognize
[12:38] <Lubix> rag:  do you program in c?
[12:38] <rag> Lubix: sometimes
[12:38] <rbil> Moosebuntu in fstab add line:   /dev/hdb1     /home/adam/160GB           ext3       defaults  0 0
[12:38] <Moosebuntu> ok
[12:38] <imme> cpk2: Could be only the other way around, on the wall socket I connect to 145.116.x(most of the time 4).x and router is 192.168.1.x
[12:38] <rbil> Moosebuntu, in your home directory create new dir called: 160GB
[12:39] <Lubix> rag: do i hafta download libraries now or something?
[12:39] <fester420> hey is anyone runing 64bit ubuntu
[12:39] <rbil> Moosebuntu, after you've done those 2 things, do ...
[12:39] <Bird> Is it possible to use wine to install games from CDs like Diablo 2 or is their another program that you use for that?
[12:39] <soundray> fester420: yes
[12:39] <imme> cpk2: Should I then let my gateway-router give me 145.116.x.x addresses?
[12:39] <rbil> Moosebuntu: sudo mount -a
[12:39] <Moosebuntu> Is this tab delimited?
[12:39] <rag> Lubix, what is hafta?
[12:39] <Comrade_S> Bird: yes
[12:39] <Moosebuntu> ok
[12:39] <rbil> sure
[12:39] <cpk2> imme: 192.168.1 was just an arbitrary number
[12:39] <rbil> or spaces
[12:39] <fester420> soundray, i have a probem its only reading half of my processor speed
[12:39] <Lubix> rag: have to
[12:39] <Lubix> sorry
[12:39] <fester420> =S
[12:39] <c0ldfusi0n> Yeah i'd like it to work too... the only thing that i can see might be different is i'm trying to install the amd64 version... I boot on the CD, select install, it tries to load up X then gives me a text message asking me if i want to view the X log (twice) then reverts to console. If i edit the xorg.conf and replace ati with vesa then startx, it makes me computer reboot.
[12:39] <c0ldfusi0n> Is that of any help?
[12:40] <tim> Gaah, i cant install the fglrx ati driver thingie
[12:40] <rbil> Moosebuntu, if all goes as planned when you go to ~/150GB you'll be accessing your new drive
[12:40] <soundray> fester420: that's normal. If you throw a CPU-intensive task at it, it'll double.
[12:40] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n well it doesnt help but it sure sounds ugly :)
[12:40] <fester420> oh really
[12:40] <c0ldfusi0n> Yeah =/
[12:40] <imme> cpk2: yeah I already thought that, I'm just babbling the most specific I can, I'd really like for it to work...
[12:40] <rag> Lubix: say me how do you compile it
[12:40] <fester420> thats pretty cheezy
[12:40] <soundray> fester420: the program responsible for this behavior is called powernowd
[12:40] <fester420> can i remove it
[12:40] <Bird> How can I download codecs to play movie files like mp4s and other common ones?
[12:41] <Lubix> rag: gcc <filename>
[12:41] <Lubix> rag: do i need to add something more?
[12:41] <hejsa> Bird, look at ubuntuguide.org there is a guide for that
[12:41] <c0ldfusi0n> I also tried the "Safe graphics mode" Ubuntu offers at the startup screen, but it does the exact same thing
[12:41] <Comrade_S> !w32codecs > Bird
[12:41] <jbmigel> Lubix i think you would also need an output like gcc helloworld.c helloworld
[12:42] <Moosebuntu> rbil> I can get to the folder \home\adam\160GB, however I still can't write to the drive. :(
[12:42] <cafuego> Lubix: On Linux, of the file is called 'test.c', you can run 'make test' and the rest is automagic.
[12:42] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n have you tried other boot disks on that hardware? like is ubuntu the first one to fail?
[12:42] <Lubix> jbmigel: i get error messages that it cannot find the headers
[12:42] <rbil> Moosebuntu, is /home/adam your home directory?
[12:43] <imme> cpk2: do you think it has any change of succeeding if I let my gateway-router pass out 145.116.x.x addresses ?
[12:43] <rag> Lubix: do you install linux-headers?
[12:43] <Lubix> cafuego: i do not have test.c on my compuer
[12:43] <c0ldfusi0n> Well i've installed Windows successfully, and also Ubuntu before (dual boot), i've since removed Ubuntu (it was a while ago, must've been a different build) but i started using it at work today and i'd like to have it back...
[12:43] <rag> Lubix: and put me error again
[12:43] <Lubix> rag: yes i installed taht package you asked me to
[12:43] <cpk2> imme: i suppose it wont hurt to try =P
[12:43] <Moosebuntu> rbil> I believe so, yes.
[12:43] <jbmigel> Lubix what are you importing in your .c file?
[12:43] <Lubix> rag: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:43] <Moosebuntu> rbil> yes, it is
[12:43] <Lubix> rag:$ gcc dev.c
[12:43] <Lubix> dev.c:1:20: error:  stdio.h: No such file or directory
[12:43] <Lubix> dev.c: In function main:
[12:43] <Lubix> dev.c:5: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function printf
[12:43] <Lubix> dev.c:4: warning: return type of main is not int
[12:44] <Lubix> jbmigel: what do you mean?
[12:44] <c0ldfusi0n> Actually i might still have that old Ubuntu cd, brb
[12:44] <cafuego> Lubix: You're missing 'libc6-dev' or you're not importing correctly.
[12:44] <imme> cpk2: I'll try that tommorow then, it's really pas bed-time here. :D
[12:44] <rag> Lubix: do you developer sometime?
[12:44] <Lubix> rag: only in vstudio
[12:44] <phaedrus_> ello...
[12:45] <imme> cpk2: Again thanks for your help and time, you make me feel welcome in the world of ubuntu. ;)
[12:45] <Lubix> cafuego: where do i get the libraries?
[12:45] <phaedrus_> how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it?
[12:45] <shira> Does the server install cd come with a partitioner or does it automatically wipe the drive?
[12:45] <phaedrus_> sudo chmod -R 0777 /dev/sdb2?
[12:45] <cafuego> Lubix: 'sudo apt-get install libc6-dev'
[12:45] <jbmigel> Lubix can you look in /usr/include to make sure stdio.h is there?
[12:45] <rbil> Moosebuntu:   sudo chmod 777 /home/adam/160GB
[12:45] <cafuego> phaedrus_: NO!
[12:45] <rag> Lubix: your problem not is of gcc, but... your code
[12:45] <c0ldfusi0n> Ok well it seems like i don't have it anymore
[12:45] <phaedrus_> hehe  ok
[12:45] <Comrade_S> shira: I am pretty sure it does
[12:45] <docmur> good day all
[12:46] <rag> Lubix: your code, your types , your declarations...
[12:46] <c0ldfusi0n> Question therefore is: Should i try installing the current version, but for amd64 servers OR should i try to find a previous amd64 desktop version?
[12:46] <Moosebuntu> rbil> that worked!!
[12:46] <Lubix> rag: how is that
[12:46] <Moosebuntu> Thank you!!!!!
[12:46] <docmur> I need some help finding a forum post on ubuntulinux
[12:46] <sidny4> !java
[12:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:46] <fg32> has nayone tried getting ubuntu to install on a HP iPaq?
[12:46] <rag> Lubix: Lubix: your code
[12:46] <rbil> Moosebuntu, :-) all working now?
[12:46] <rag> Lubix: your code is in error
[12:46] <rag> Lubix: i dont know
[12:46] <Comrade_S> docmur: search the forums using their search box or use google
[12:46] <Moosebuntu> rbil> Is there a primer on adding drives like this?  Yes it works!!!  Much appreciated sir!
[12:46] <docmur> I tried
[12:46] <phaedrus_> how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it?
[12:46] <rbil> Moosebuntu, memory :-)
[12:46] <Lubix> rag:#include < stdio.h>
[12:46] <Lubix> void main()
[12:46] <Lubix> {
[12:46] <Lubix>     printf("\nHello World\n");
[12:46] <Lubix> }
[12:46] <shira> Comrade_S: that's what i thought.. what's the easiest way of getting a LAMP setup on the desktop then?
[12:46] <docmur> just wondering if anyone has seen the post on how to speed up dapper
[12:46] <rbil> Moosebuntu, make notes
[12:47] <Moosebuntu> rbil> good deal, I'll do this!
[12:47] <Moosebuntu> thanks again!
[12:47] <rbil> no prob
[12:47] <rbil> bye, gotta run
[12:47] <Comrade_S> docmur : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[12:47] <Lubix> cafuego: what other libraries might i need
[12:47] <statters> I got a 80GB hard drive I formatted 20GB and installed  Ubuntu, I then installed qtparted to format remaining space into Fat but its not happening? I assumed I could format a new partition from desktop?
[12:47] <rag> Lubix: ok find / -name stdio.h
[12:47] <Comrade_S> docmur: dude, next time google, I just found htat out using google
[12:47] <c0ldfusi0n> jbmigel: Should i try installing the current version, but for amd64 servers OR should i try to find a previous amd64 desktop version?
[12:48] <soundray> docmur: do you mean http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189192 ?
[12:48] <docmur> what did you search
[12:48] <docmur> thanks
[12:48] <rag> Lubix: i am code c on ubuntu, i dont know if you must configure any something
[12:48] <jbmigel> c0ldfusi0n id use the current version for server. then add ubuntu-desktop
[12:48] <soundray> docmur 'ubuntu dapper speed'
[12:48] <c0ldfusi0n> ok
[12:48] <Lubix> where are the header files stored?
[12:48] <docmur> oh I search speeding up ubuntu
[12:49] <rag> Lubix: look ubuntuformus.org --> and search: gcc or how to gcc, language c
[12:49] <rag> Lubix: sorry, i cant help you more, because i must resolve critical problems for me
[12:49] <jbmigel> Lubix there is a very nice intro to C programming on the howstuffworks website.
[12:50] <Lubix> jbmigel: i know all this i just cannot figure out how to compile it
[12:50] <soundray> Lubix: have you installed the package build-essential ?
[12:50] <Alukurd> Anyone who has the "USB PnP sound device" ? anyway I have the same problems like those guys here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265040&highlight=VSTA . But the fix that jackuess posted, dont get where I need to put it :/
[12:50] <Lubix> soundray: yes
[12:50] <jbmigel> Lubix can you pastebin your code
[12:50] <statters> Should I be able to to create a partition on remaining free space of my hard drive with qtparted?
[12:50] <soundray> Lubix: good, alway worth checkin ;)
[12:50] <Lubix> jbmigel: what do you mean?
[12:50] <jbmigel> !paste
[12:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:50] <Bird> What command would I use to install a game from a cd with wine?
[12:51] <sontek> Hey, i'm in VI in editmode and my arrow keys output letters.  Left=D, Down=B,Right=C, Up=A
[12:51] <sontek> what causes that?
[12:51] <ferret0567> Does putting the boot flag on the /boot partion of hdb (that would be hdb1), mess up Windows XP or its bootloader installed w/ ntfs, on the whole first HD, when it's ntfs partiton also has a boot flag?
[12:51] <soundray> statters: not necessarily. If you have four primary partitions already, it will refuse
[12:51] <statters> nope only got / and /swap
[12:51] <silox> is there any formatting tool to format my Sandisk m240 1 GB Mp3 player?
[12:51] <rambo3> sontek, press  i first ?
[12:51] <sontek> rambo3: Thats what edit mode is
[12:52] <soundray> statters: what are the device names?
[12:52] <Lubix> jbmigel: stdio.h is in my usr/include directory
[12:52] <statters> hda hda1
[12:52] <ferret0567> I will make sure it is 3 partitons on the second drive, 2 primary and 1 logical "container" partition
[12:53] <soundray> silox: if it works as a mass storage device, you can use mkdosfs
[12:53] <jbmigel> Lubix "gcc yourcode.c -o youexe"
[12:53] <jbmigel> Lubix note the -o for output
[12:53] <ferret0567> Will that work and can I reverse my boot flag change on the second HD?
[12:53] <soundray> statters: what are the device names of the partitions?
[12:53] <silox> sondray okay yes it does thx
[12:53] <ferret0567> I have been using Linux awhile but...I have never done dual-boot before...
[12:53] <soundray> silox: that's in package dosfstools btw
[12:53] <Lubix> jbmigel it will not compile
[12:54] <jbmigel> Lubix can you pastebin your code?
[12:54] <jbmigel> !paste > Lubix
[12:54] <silox> soundray i already have that package ^^
[12:54] <statters> partition 1 and swap partition /dev/hda and /dev/hda1
[12:54] <Lubix> jbmigel #include < stdio.h>
[12:54] <Lubix> void main()
[12:54] <Lubix> {
[12:54] <Lubix>     printf("\nHello World\n");
[12:54] <Lubix> }
[12:54] <ferret0567> And when I put GRUB in the mbr of the second HD (I must protect WIndblows), GRUB refuses to boot Ubuntu
[12:54] <silox> soundray how do i do this then :P
[12:54] <bkudria> i have a logitech mx610 (http://tinyurl.com/d5zbn) and everything works except the im button (but mail, strangely, does work, sending xf86mail to xev) and side scrolling...how do i make it work?
[12:54] <FunnyLookinHat> !offtopic
[12:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:54] <cafuego> Lubix: I note < stdio.h> and not <stdio.h> in your paste.
[12:54] <Flannel> ferret0567: why not just put grub on the first hd?
[12:55] <soundray> statters: /dev/hda is not a partition device name. It's the name of the block device (whole disk)
[12:55] <psycode> Q: how can find out which process is using a resource? this case it's a cdrom i can't unmount probly' since some process is viewing its contents.
[12:55] <Lubix> jbmigel: it says stdio.h not found
[12:55] <ferret0567> Because I do not want to go through the hassle of fixing the mbr of XP
[12:55] <soundray> statters: you probably have to create an extended partition
[12:55] <bkudria> psycode: lsof
[12:55] <statters> soundray: sry I have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2
[12:55] <bkudria> psycode: for list open files
[12:55] <Flannel> ferret0567: I don't understand.  You don't need to fix the mbr unless you remove grub later
[12:56] <Lubix> cafuego: you fix the first problem i got 2 more still though
[12:56] <statters> can I format an extended partition Fat?
[12:56] <phaedrus_> how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it not just root?
[12:56] <cafuego> Lubix: Creative spelling is your enemy. That space between < and s shouldn't be there.
[12:56] <psycode> bkudria, any useful flags for this task?
[12:56] <Lubix> cafuego: i know you did it
[12:56] <Lubix> cafuego: #include < stdio.h>
[12:56] <Lubix> void main()
[12:56] <Lubix> {
[12:56] <Lubix>     printf("\nHello World\n");
[12:56] <Lubix> }
[12:57] <cafuego> Lubix: Your *actual* error is ' stdio.h: No such file or directory'
[12:57] <soundray> silox: you can find out for yourself with 'man mkdosfs'. Most of the time, 'sudo mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sda1' is appropriate. But make sure you know what you're doing -- don't just blindly take it from me.
[12:57] <ferret0567> I bet I will...GRUB would not boot Ubuntu on a computer with no Windows on a err...reinstall of Ubuntu
[12:57] <psycode> Lubix, ahhhhhhh main should return an int!
[12:57] <bkudria> psycode: i don't think so, i always do |grep <device>
[12:57] <soundray> statters: no, the extended partition has no filesystem of its own. It's a container for logical partitions.
[12:57] <cafuego> psycode: No, he has a space where he shouldn't have one.
[12:57] <jbmigel> Lubix can you change < stdio.h> to <stdio.g>
[12:57] <jbmigel> Lubix can you change < stdio.h> to <stdio.h> lol
[12:57] <psycode> cafuego, still...
[12:57] <Flannel> ferret0567: grub can boot windows and ubuntu fine.
[12:58] <cafuego> psycode: Yeah, bad, but not an error ;-)
[12:58] <psycode> cafuego, well i'm not sure about c, i just know its not valid cpp :P
[12:58] <Lubix> i get this error: #include < stdio.h>
[12:58] <Lubix> void main()
[12:58] <Lubix> {
[12:58] <Lubix>     printf("\nHello World\n");
[12:58] <Lubix> }
[12:58] <silox> soundray cant find sda1 :/
[12:58] <cafuego> psycode: gcc doesn't mind it
[12:58] <Lubix> dev.c:4: warning: return type of main is not int
[12:58] <cafuego> Lubix: STOP APSTING
[12:58] <jbmigel> Lubix can you change < stdio.h> to <stdio.h>  and it will work geez
[12:58] <psycode> hehe!
[12:58] <FunnyLookinHat> Lubix, Please stop pasting that over and over again.
[12:58] <FunnyLookinHat> !pastebin
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:58] <soundray> silox: didn't I ask you *not* to copy my code?
[12:59] <ferret0567> But it failed with an error and refused to boot Ubuntu Linux two times on that Windows XP computer (never had Linux on it before) and once on mine (had Windows, erased it)
[12:59] <psycode> Lubix, change void main to int main, and return 0;
[12:59] <cafuego> Lubix: Warnings are not errors and can (usually) be safely ignored.
[12:59] <jbmigel> psycode that is only a warning
[12:59] <soundray> silox: this could have wrecked your system
[12:59] <bkudria> i have a logitech mx610 (http://tinyurl.com/d5zbn) and everything works except the im button (but mail, strangely, does work, sending xf86mail to xev) and side scrolling...how do i make it work?
[12:59] <xplic1t> Lubix:  #include <stdio.h> int main(){ printf("Hello World!\n"); return 0; }
[12:59] <silox> soundray i dont have a usb disk so i bearly think so :)
[12:59] <psycode> jbmigel, why do you all take side with the devil? >:)
[12:59] <silox> soundray should i whrite /media/sandisk then?
[12:59] <LjL> xplic1t: "return EXIT_SUCCESS;" even ;-P
[12:59] <cafuego> psycode: I resent that
[01:00] <noldon> hi i need help
[01:00] <jbmigel> psycode heh, just trying to make it easy, if he makes it int he also has to return something
[01:00] <xplic1t> hehe
[01:00] <soundray> silox: sooner or later you're going to accidentally format your root partition if you're so careless.
[01:00] <cafuego> xplic1t: They he's need <stdlib.h> too
[01:00] <cafuego> and prolly <unistd.h> for good measure.
[01:00] <noldon> i just installed winxp and it removed my MGR
[01:00] <ferret0567> I want to know if I make the boot flag change I can reverse it later with no consequences
[01:00] <noldon> so lilo dont come up
[01:00] <Flannel> !grub | noldon
[01:00] <ubotu> noldon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:01] <noldon> ok
[01:01] <soundray> silox: no, find out the proper device name by entering 'mount' and reading the output (find the line that contains '/media/sandisk' and take the device name from that)
[01:01] <Lubix> jbmiguel: it compiles but where does the output actually end up
[01:01] <snoopy_linux_> bye
[01:02] <noldon> ubotu thanx
[01:02] <LjL> cafuego: why not     find /usr/include/ -printf "#include <%f>\n"   then :P
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <jbmigel> Lubix what did you call the output file/
[01:02] <Lubix> i get helloworld but it is incased in tons of junk characters that cant open in gedit
[01:02] <ferret0567> How can I reinstall GRUB on the second HD either in the MBR or with a boot flag, a partition?
[01:02] <cafuego> LjL: Just <*.h> will do
[01:02] <psycode> ahhh i can't eject my cdrom :(  -- is "lsof | grep cdrom" supposed to find the source of the problem?
[01:02] <LjL> cafuego: ah, CPP globs? didn't even know
[01:02] <cafuego> LjL: But unbistd and stdlib you can't really ignore if you need the code to be portable eh
[01:02] <cafuego> LjL: Nah, just mocking you ;-)
[01:03] <danielm> nm, turns out either the author kinda lied or the version in sources is old.
[01:03] <jbmigel> Lubix wow man you really need to goto howstuffworks and go through the tutorial... this isnt a c classroom http://computer.howstuffworks.com/c.htm
[01:03] <cafuego> Lubix: it's an execitable, not a test file.
[01:03] <ferret0567> I heard in Ubuntu reinstalling the MBR is not a pleaserable experience
[01:03] <soundray> psycode: look if /dev/cdrom is a soft link to a real device and grep for that instead
[01:03] <Lubix> cafuego: looks like i have a debug report
[01:03] <Lubix> oh i get it!
[01:03] <LjL> cafuego: well, stdlib i agree, but unistd isn't ANSI i believe :P
[01:03] <Lubix> i am so sorry
[01:03] <idanimrod>  btw, did dapper had so much problems when it was released like the numbers of messages posted about edgy troubles? i can't remember that
[01:03] <Lubix> shoot me
[01:03] <cafuego> Lubix: ./helloworld
[01:04] <Flannel> ferret0567: You must have heard wrong, it's pretty painless, installing either grub, or WBL
[01:04] <Lubix> you people must have me
[01:04] <Lubix> hate
[01:04] <psycode> soundray, i'm trying that, thx
[01:04] <cafuego> LjL: it's not?
[01:04] <LjL> cafuego: i could be wrong... isn't it a POSIX include?
[01:04] <Lynoure> nevermind, I found it.
[01:05] <cafuego> LjL: looks like it is, yes
[01:05] <ferret0567> Well...I hope one of you people can direct me to a guide that tells you how to reinstall GRUB on the second HD
[01:05] <LjL> cafuego: well then it actually *impairs* portability in principle ;-)
[01:06] <ferret0567> What is the recommended size for the /boot partition anyway?
[01:06] <LjL> ferret0567: "man grub-install"
[01:06] <jbmigel> 100mb is good
[01:06] <cafuego> LjL: it facilitates migration to Linux, you mean? ;-)
[01:06] <deedubb__> Hello. I have a question. I have auth.0 and auth.1.gz, and normally I would assume those come from logrotate.d but I can't find where it's configured to do those files. I want to know because I need to add another file
[01:06] <Comrade_S> ferret0567, try this :    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[01:06] <ferret0567> Thanks
[01:06] <Lubix> thank you all for your help
[01:06] <Comrade_S> ferret0567, or this :: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223614
[01:07] <jbmigel> good luck Lubix!
[01:07] <Lubix> sorry for being so dense
[01:07] <LjL> cafuego: that might be, but if you write a program that isn't *using* any of the POSIX functions, but only standard ANSI functions (like his hello world program), then including a non-ANSI header file will gratuitously make compilation fail on non-POSIX systems :)
[01:07] <jbmigel> Lubix its ok things are different here compared to vstudio
[01:07] <cafuego> LjL: it facilitates migration to Linux, you mean? ;-)
[01:07] <Lubix> yes i want to learn it because i want to no whats going on behind the scenes you
[01:08] <jbmigel> Lubix C is a hard one to start with... you might look at python first
[01:08] <LjL> cafuego: not really, if just facilitates saying "bah, stupid program, i'll download something else. possibly just something proprietary and pirated that i won't have to compile" :-P
[01:08] <LjL> cafuego: but, mind you, i *do* read the comp.lang.c newsgroup. that can probably explain a thing or two
[01:09] <ferret0567> Hmm...I don't want to make the /boot partition too big or small...64 MB should do it for quite a few (atleast 6 kernel upgrades) right?
[01:09] <cafuego> LjL: Nah, surely *BSD users won't react like that <heh>
[01:09] <The> how do yo connect to news groups?
[01:09] <jbmigel> ferret0567 whats an extra couple megabytes? I bet you have a GB of swap you barely use
[01:09] <LjL> cafuego: no, but they'll react badly at the fact that you seem to be implying their OS isn't POSIX-compiant :P
[01:10] <deedubb__> anyone know which service does auth.0 by default?
[01:10] <Lubix> jbmigel: i almost got the python book but ended up with "Programming in C"
[01:10] <cafuego> ferret0567: Unless you're using lvm or md or dm or somesuch, just don't bother with /boot.
[01:10] <cafuego> LjL: That's where you're compassionate and I'm a troll ;-)
[01:10] <jbmigel> Lubix well you will be better off when your done that book, it will just take you a little longer to get going
[01:10] <LjL> Lubix: if the book you got tells you to type that "void main()" thing, then it's trash :P
[01:11] <hydoskee> Hi, I have a hardware raid set up, and ubuntu is seeing it as two drives - what should I be running fdisk on?
[01:11] <ferret0567> I have a 120 GB of HD space but...see the BIOS can only see a certain amount of the HD and I am using JFS for / and /home
[01:11] <The> I am new to Ubuntu.  What program do you use to connect to news groups?
[01:11] <statters> in disk manager its asking for access path clicking help says no document found ? what is the access path and for a fat 32 drive used for storage where should I place it?
[01:11] <cafuego> ferret0567: Linux will happily ignore the bios anyway.
[01:11] <Lubix> LjL; i havent gotten into the book yet i was just trying to set up the gcc
[01:11] <LjL> The, i use Kontact, under my KDE. i suppose it'll be either Evolution or Thunderbird on your Gnome
[01:11] <ferret0567> But this has to be GRUB compatible
[01:12] <LjL> Lubix: alright. have you installed the "build-essential" package? you should get that to compile, rather than just gcc
[01:12] <cafuego> ferret0567: Yes, no need fo a separate /boot - really :-)
[01:12] <sureshot> hey all i am trying to pick out a linux distro .. what is the difference between fedora and ubuntu
[01:12] <ferret0567> Even for JFS in GRUB?
[01:12] <cafuego> ferret0567: On normal desktops I usually have / and swap or /, /home and swap.
[01:13] <LjL> sureshot: ubuntu is a debian derivative, fedora is not. ubuntu uses the APT packaging system, fedora uses RPM. ubuntu is a linux distribution, and fedora is a different one.
[01:13] <soundray> sureshot: with the current stable Ubuntu, you get 3 years support promise.
[01:13] <ferret0567> Well...I use it...
[01:13] <Will> how can i change the deault load OS for GRUB?
[01:13] <cafuego> it has a jfs_stage1_5 file, so i guess it ought to
[01:13] <LjL> Will: sure, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:14] <Will> i know
[01:14] <Will> but what do i edit :&
[01:14] <Will> *:(
[01:14] <deedubb__> Can someone please help me here..... which daemon creates auth.log.0 by default? It is not logrotate
[01:14] <sureshot> so one does not give you anything more than the other except the support promise of coruse
[01:14] <Will> !GRUB
[01:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:14] <LjL> Will: oh, i missed the "how".  type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst", and find the line that says "default X", and choose the right X.
[01:14] <Will> kk thanks
[01:14] <LjL> Will: the number is the one that operating systems are listed in
[01:14] <soundray> Will: there is a line called "default" fairly far up.
[01:15] <julian> Im trying to enter full screen mode in Vmware server. i receive an error saying that i couldnt find config file
[01:15] <cafuego> deedubb__: here is sure is logrotate
[01:15] <Will> ok
[01:15] <Will> it says 0 :S
[01:15] <LjL> Will: also look at the comments above that "default" line. perhaps you might like to use the "saved" feature.
[01:15] <AtticStorm> In Gnome has anyone been seeing lines in their buttons that clear when one puts the mouse pointer on them?
[01:15] <deedubb__> cafuego: I can't find where in /etc/logrotate.conf or logrotate.d where this is set
[01:15] <LjL> Will: sure, that means the default OS to boot is the first one -- i.e. probably Ubuntu
[01:15] <Will> whats the saved feature?
[01:15] <ferret0567> And on my computer with JFS and /boot my partitons are like this: Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20000000000 bytes
[01:15] <ferret0567> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2431 cylinders
[01:15] <ferret0567> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:15] <ferret0567>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:15] <ferret0567> /dev/hda1               1          19      152586   83  Linux
[01:15] <ferret0567> /dev/hda2              20        2431    19374390   83  Linux
[01:15] <ferret0567> Disk /dev/hdb: 10.2 GB, 10245537792 bytes
[01:15] <ferret0567> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders
[01:16] <phaedrus_> how do i change the permisiions on my usb disk so that users can write and read to it?
[01:16] <ferret0567> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:16] <ferret0567>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:16] <ferret0567> /dev/hdb1               1          16      128488+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:16] <holzmodem> hi im using the Network Manager for my wifi connection, now i search for a deb package for the openvpn >> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3297
[01:16] <ferret0567> /dev/hdb2              17        1245     9871942+  83  Linux
[01:16] <LjL> Will: if you're looking into booting Windows by default, then that will *possibly* be number 2 (0 being ubuntu, 1 being ubuntu in recovery mode, 2 being windows). this doesn't have to be the case though
[01:16] <ferret0567> I will stop flooding the channnel
[01:16] <LjL> !paste | ferret0567
[01:16] <ubotu> ferret0567: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:16] <deedubb__> cafuego: do you have entries I do not?
[01:16] <Will> how i work out what number xp is then?
[01:16] <soundray> Will: 0 is the first entry. Find out the correct number from the list that you get when you type 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0'
[01:16] <LjL> Will, look at your boot menu. 0 is the first menu entry, etc.
[01:17] <cafuego> deedubb__: no mention of it, yet it is rorated by logrotate here. probabnly a 'default'.
[01:17] <LjL> Will: the "saved" feature is explained in the comment. basically it starts the OS that was run last, by default
[01:17] <iamtheobject> excuse me, Would anyone know if an SPF record would fix a bogus helo ?
[01:17] <AlexFicelle> Will: My advice is this: move the "Windows" entry to the top and set "default" to 0 (should already be that way). It's much easier than counting your Ubuntu entries, which may be changing after updates...
[01:17] <deedubb__> cafuego that'd be crazy to have a default like that
[01:17] <cafuego> deedubb__: Nevertheless
[01:18] <deedubb__> and if you do logrotate -dv /etc/logrotate.conf 2>&1 | grep -i auth you'd think it'd show up
[01:18] <Will> how do i change it to the top then?
[01:18] <ferret0567> /dev/hda1 is ext3 /boor and hda2 isJFS /
[01:18] <LjL> sureshot: that's not true. Ubuntu gives you things that Fedora does not, and viceversa. they're just different. there are programs that Ubuntu has packaged and Fedora has not, and vice versa. you might find that some features are better integrated in Ubuntu or Fedora. the only thing i can say is that *i think* that Fedora is a bit more on the bleeding-edge, and thus on the unstable. i'm not really even sure.
[01:19] <Will> do i have to do that inside the menu?
[01:19] <deedubb__> cafuego: how are you so sure it's done by logrotate cafuego?
[01:19] <soundray> LjL: too bad, he just left
[01:19] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about tinyhoneypot
[01:19] <cafuego> deedubb__: Coz I also have an auth.log.1.gz and auth.log.2.gz etc :-)
[01:20] <LjL> Will, no. look at the menu: if Ubuntu is the first entry (i.e. 0), and Ubuntu recovery is the second (i.e. 1), and Windows XP is the third (i.e. 2), you'll have to make that line of /boot/grub/menu.lst say "default 2", to boot XP by default
[01:20] <AlexFicelle> Will: No, do that once Ubuntu is started.
[01:20] <iamtheobject> yes, it will fix it
[01:20] <cafuego> deedubb__: and they're all tiemstamped at the time when cron.daily runs.
[01:20] <iamtheobject> thanks iamtheobject
[01:20] <deedubb__> cafuego: thats not a good enough answer, I have those files too
[01:20] <LjL> Will: if instead you prefer to have Grub remember the last choice, type "default saved" on that line, and read the comment.
[01:20] <nes> hell yeah a room for the is progy ccol
[01:20] <AsheD> is there a commandline way to count the number of folders in a dir?
[01:20] <Will> ok
[01:20] <soundray> AsheD: ls | wc
[01:20] <AlexFicelle> Will: Press Alt-F2 (this opens the run command dialog) and type gksudo "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[01:20] <deedubb__> cafuego: you're wrong
[01:21] <Will> i know :)
[01:21] <deedubb__> its a cron job called sysklogd
[01:21] <AlexFicelle> Will: OK, now:
[01:21] <soundray> AsheD: oops, you said folders. 'find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | wc'
[01:21] <catu> !?
[01:21] <AlexFicelle> Will: Find the Windows entry. It has several lines: title, root, savedefault, makeactive and chainloader
[01:21] <cafuego> deedubb__: Same naming scheme, same diff.
[01:21] <Will> yes
[01:21] <AlexFicelle> Will: (at least in my install)
[01:21] <catu> que mierda es esta
[01:22] <catu> XD
[01:22] <LjL> !es
[01:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:22] <AlexFicelle> Will: Cut those lines.
[01:22] <Will> yesh
[01:22] <catu> whatever
[01:22] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know much about tinyhoneypot
[01:22] <deedubb__> cafuego: no, not same diff
[01:22] <AlexFicelle> Will: Search for this phrase: ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:22] <soundray> spanglesontoast: why don't you just ask your real question.
[01:22] <cafuego> deedubb__: See which files `sysklogd' processes?
[01:22] <LjL> !info tinyhoneypot
[01:22] <ubotu> tinyhoneypot: Small honeypot to trap attackers. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.6-8 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 296 kB
[01:22] <deedubb__> yes
[01:22] <catu> damn i feel so nebwie
[01:22] <nes> ] hey you guys know is there a compatible wine version for the ppc macs i have the4 ppc untunbu but i cant get the win apps to run on it  thourgh anything even nwine
[01:22] <AlexFicelle> Will: And paste the lines we cut earlier just above that ### line
[01:22] <catu> *newbie
[01:22] <catu> XD
[01:22] <spanglesontoast> well how do I get thpot to work locally so I can actually see if it works?
[01:23] <deedubb__> but sysklogd cronjob != logrotate
[01:23] <deedubb__> anyway, I'm glad it got figured out
[01:23] <Will> ok i think ive done it correct
[01:23] <AlexFicelle> Will: This should make it the first entry, which is 0.
[01:23] <cafuego> deedubb__: As far as I can tell it ONLY processes /var/log/syslog (The output of `syslogd-listfiles`.
[01:24] <nes> i love the gui in the progy
[01:24] <catu> ...
[01:24] <cafuego> deedubb__: and changes ownership and perms of auth.log, but does NOT archive it.
[01:24] <AlexFicelle> Will: You should have a line that says "default 0". This means you want this first entry to be started up by default.
[01:24] <nes> i just wanna run three apps thats it
[01:24] <Will> yeah im restarting :~)
[01:24] <AlexFicelle> Will: Exactly: save and restart.
[01:25] <Will> :)
[01:25] <Will> whoo
[01:25] <RememberPOL> Friefox 2.0 is out. :)
[01:25] <AlexFicelle> Will: working? :-)
[01:25] <Will> works :)
[01:25] <nes> why does ppc macs make so hard to run win apps
[01:25] <cafuego> nes: becasue ppc != x86
[01:25] <Will> thnxs :)
[01:26] <AlexFicelle> Will: you can move your entries around, but try not to mess between the ### lines.
[01:26] <deedubb__> cafuego: syslogd-listfiles --auth run it, understand what the for loop does now?
[01:26] <Will> kk
[01:26] <calisee> anyone running beryl? when i start it in gnome-session-properties on boot it causes my titlebars to disappear, then i can right click the icon in the try, hit refresh window manager.. beryl will show its splash image and everything will go back to normal
[01:26] <AlexFicelle> Will: unless you know precisely what you're doing.
[01:26] <Will> lol i dont :P
[01:26] <cafuego> deedubb__: Do you see the code in the for loop and what it does?
[01:26] <nes> i wana bye dual core macs but no money right now
[01:26] <cafuego> deedubb__: it runs 1) chown and 2) chmod.
[01:26] <soundray> nes: wine is a very ambitious project, even on the type of CPU that Windows itself is written for. Porting it to another architecture must be incredibly difficult.
[01:26] <jarn> Is there a way to force a game to open in a window rather than fullscreen?
[01:27] <julian> running beryl, i dont understand the prob
[01:27] <cafuego> deedubb__: I appreceiate it has another loop thatc alls 'savelog', but as far as I can see that noly runs against /var/log/syslog.
[01:27] <soundray> jarn: I think you can achieve that with xnest
[01:27] <nes> help anyone
[01:27] <nes> please?
[01:28] <calisee> jarn, when you just log into X, does the beryl splash screen show and stuff?
[01:29] <jarn> calisee: I don't use beryl.
[01:29] <ferret0567> I can boot from XFS though I discovered but only if GRUB is installed to an MBR...well...ok second HD GRUB again
[01:29] <calisee> sorry wrong nick completion
[01:29] <soundray> nes: wash my dishes and iron my shirts for three years, and I'll give you a slightly used one.
[01:30] <The> I've got Evolution mail now setup.  How do I join a newsgroup?
[01:30] <calisee> julian, when you log into X does the beryl splash screen show?
[01:30] <ferret0567> Does Macromedia Flash Player work under XGL with Compiz/Beryl?
[01:30] <ferret0567> In Firefox?
[01:30] <cafuego> ferret0567: sure
[01:30] <goofey> is it ok to upgrade ubuntu-minimal?
[01:30] <jarn> soundray: How does xnest work?
[01:30] <soundray> The: is evolution a newsreader? That would be news to me...
[01:31] <cafuego> soundray: used to be, but isn't anymore.
[01:31] <cafuego> The: use 'Pan'.
[01:31] <LjL> soundray: he asked a couple of time where he could find a newsreader -- since nobody replied, i told him that i believed it could be either evolution or thunderbird conceivably. i use KDE
[01:31] <The> I don't know.  I am new to Ubuntu and want to join a newsgroup regarding Wine.
[01:31] <ferret0567> Good because with AIGLX it does not on a Intel i810e Integrated Graphics, 512MB of RAM and a nice slow 800mhz processor
[01:32] <cafuego> ferret0567: Note, it may not run _well_. But I see no reason for it to not run at all.
[01:32] <soundray> jarn: I looked at it years ago, but it wasn't the solution for me, so I can't tell you... Anyway, xserver-xephyr replaces it and is recommended now.
[01:32] <soundray> !xserver-xephyr
[01:32] <ubotu> xserver-xephyr: Nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6.1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 438 kB, installed size 944 kB
[01:32] <NEMO4> ./server irc.relaxnet.org
[01:32] <NEMO4> ./server irc.relaxnet.org
[01:32] <NEMO4> ./server irc.relaxnet.org
[01:32] <LjL> !ops
[01:32] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:32] <NEMO4> ./server irc.relaxnet.org
[01:32] <LoRez> Warning: `NEMO4' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:32] <NEMO4> ./server irc.relaxnet.org
[01:32] <goofey> my ubuntu server install says ubuntu-minimal is being kept back from upgrading - any idea why?
[01:32] <NEMO4> ./server irc.relaxnet.org
[01:32] <cafuego> NEMO4: Please stop spamming.
[01:32] <soundray> jarn: the principle is this: you start an X server that runs in a window inside your current Xorg session
[01:33] <The> cafuego: Can I use Synaptic package manger?
[01:33] <cafuego> The: yup
[01:33] <rag> how to install half life with opengl support
[01:33] <ferret0567> Well...with AIGLX Flash Player does not work at all on that computer I just described to you, crashes Firefox
[01:33] <ferret0567> I have tested it
[01:33] <rag> how to install half life with opengl support or wine with opengl support
[01:33] <cafuego> goofey: it probably depends on a package that needs to be added. Use 'dist-upgrade'.
[01:33] <rag> please!
[01:33] <goofey> cafuego: i will - thanks!
[01:33] <Comrade_S> NEMO4 : just take the period form before the slash
[01:33] <|thunder> sup all
[01:34] <|thunder> who knows how to format a usb flash drive ?
[01:34] <cafuego> Comrade_S: it was a spambot, not a newbie ;-)
[01:34] <Comrade_S> ah,kk
[01:34] <goofey> cafuego: that was it - thanks!
[01:34] <Hilmar> Hello there, Im relative new to this, but Im trying to set up a Ubuntu server to work as a internet router and as a fileserver for our small network, I am reading the docs on the net, but Im wondering about a few small things. I just installed a program named Shorewall to help me configure my firewall. Anyone here who can help me out a bit?
[01:34] <soundray> The: is reading the newsgroups online an option? Last I posted netnews, I used Google.
[01:35] <soundray> |thunder, I do
[01:35] <LjL> Hilmar: not me, i've never configured a firewall on ubuntu. i'll just mention that the other popular alternative is Firestarter, you might want to check that one out as well
[01:35] <|thunder> Hilmar; im glad you chose ubuntu, but ive never setup a system like that
[01:35] <|thunder> soundray; please, do tell.
[01:36] <Hilmar> I dont have X on it so
[01:36] <soundray> |thunder: is it mounted right now?
[01:36] <sidny4> Hilmar, go ahead and ask any questions, I've never set one up but someone who has might be able to help
[01:36] <|thunder> soundray; yes
[01:36] <ferret0567> What is the recommended swap partition size?
[01:36] <Hilmar> I have to use a comandline version, my problem is that after I do apt-get sharewall, I get a msg that I have to configure it before I start it, how do I do that
[01:36] <LjL> ferret0567: make it more than your phisical RAM
[01:37] <ferret0567> 2x, 2.5x, or 3x? I have 512mb
[01:37] <holzmodem> hi im searching for an openVPN plugin for the Network Manager is there one avaiable?
[01:37] <soundray> |thunder: what's the name it shows as on the desktop?
[01:37] <jarn> soundray: I get what it is, but I can't find out how to use it.
[01:37] <|thunder> Hilmar; have you tried 'man sharewall' ?
[01:37] <|thunder> soundray; 'USB DISK'
[01:37] <cafuego> ferret0567: used to bve 2x for performance reasons, but that oddity got fixed in 2.4.6 somewhere :-)
[01:37] <LjL> ferret0567: i'd make it one gig
[01:37] <soundray> jarn: sorry, I can't help you other than by pointing to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xephyr
[01:38] <cafuego> ferret0567: these days it doesn't much matter, just 'enough to run what you want to'.
[01:38] <matthew_w> Will sudo apt-get dist upgrade get me to the edgy RC now?
[01:38] <Hilmar> thunder: I figured it was a system config it had to be done, so I assumed it didnt have anything to do with the program itself
[01:38] <ferret0567> So hibernate would work on that right?
[01:38] <LjL> matthew_w: no.
[01:38] <matthew_w> LjL, bleg.
[01:38] <Hilmar> Thunder: Tho, I may be wrong
[01:38] <soundray> |thunder: do a 'mount | grep USB.DISK' (note the dot). The line that you get should contain something like /dev/sda1, correct?
[01:38] <sidny4> Hilmar, it is more than likely that the configuration is for the program
[01:38] <LjL> matthew_w: apt-get dist-upgrade simply upgrades your packages to the latest versions, while employing some "smart" conflict resolution algorithms. that's all it does.
[01:38] <ferret0567> As long as swap used plus RAM used = < swap partition size?
[01:39] <Hilmar> Ok, I try it out, hang on
[01:39] <LjL> ferret0567: i think it's enough that your swap partition is bigger than your RAM for hibernation to work
[01:39] <|thunder> soundray; /dev/sdb1
[01:39] <ferret0567> Ah, 1.2GB I'll use it's alright
[01:39] <matthew_w> LjL; so I would have to wait until the 26 for that to work?
[01:40] <LjL> matthew_w: it will not work on 26th either. again, apt-get dist-upgrade, despite the "dist" in the name, doesn't have much to do with upgrading to a newer distribution.
[01:40] <matthew_w> LjL; change all instances in /etc/apt/sources.list of Dapper to Edgy and do it, eh?
[01:40] <soundray> |thunder: good. Do you want a Linux filesystem on it, or do you have to share that device with other OSs?
[01:40] <foo> how can I test the up/down speeds on a server via CLI?
[01:40] <LjL> matthew_w: yes. but it's probably better to use update-manager or whatever it's called
[01:40] <|thunder> soundray; fat16
[01:40] <matthew_w> LjL, update-manager?
[01:40] <rag> how to install half life with opengl support or wine with opengl support?
[01:41] <soundray> |thunder: you want to stick with that?
[01:41] <|thunder> soundray; its a friends, so yes. its a 1GB drive.
[01:41] <LjL> matthew_w: "update-manager -c -d" to upgrade to unstable distributions (i.e. edgy at the moment)
[01:42] <julian> when does edgy come out
[01:42] <LjL> !schedule | julian
[01:42] <ubotu> julian: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:42] <soundray> |thunder: I'd always recommend FAT32 for a gigabyte stick, but it's up to you. In any case, you need the package dosfstools.
[01:42] <Shadowthrone> How can I change the order procedures/programs are executed when logging in to Ubuntu?
[01:42] <matthew_w> LjL would I still have to uh... change the instances is sources.list?
[01:42] <LjL> matthew_w: no
[01:42] <julian> thank u
[01:42] <matthew_w> LjL; roger.
[01:42] <matthew_w> LjL; the stuff it downloads, will it clear it all out when it's done?
[01:43] <|thunder> thanks soundray , ill get it figured out
[01:43] <LjL> matthew_w: i don't think so. you can do that manually with "apt-get clean"
[01:43] <soundray> Shadowthrone: that would not be recommended... is there no other way to solve your problem?
[01:43] <soundray> |thunder: mkdosfs is the command.
[01:43] <LjL> matthew_w: perhaps it could be better if you just waited 'til 26th, though.
[01:43] <matthew_w> LjL; are you making an inference as to my mad abilites?  lol.
[01:43] <Shadowthrone> soundray: All I want to do is switch the order in which gaim and Eterm load up.
[01:44] <Zambezi> There is a command so you get systeminformation. dmseg or something. Anybody knows what it is?
[01:44] <jrib> Zambezi: dmesg?
[01:44] <LjL> matthew_w: no... it's just that edgy is to be considered unstable until release. basically, you should only use it if you're hunting for bugs, or if you don't care about your system and just want to check it out, or if dapper breaks on your hardware and you know edgy doesn't. since it's 2 days to release, i don't think any of these could apply...
[01:45] <lupine_85> things are still broken :)
[01:45] <soundray> Shadowthrone: have you configured those from System-Preferences-Sessions-Startup Programs ?
[01:45] <Zambezi> jrib, Thanks!
[01:45] <|thunder> soundray; thanks again
[01:45] <Shadowthrone> soundray: Aye.
[01:45] <matthew_w> LjL; what is the worst that could possibly happen, it's 2 days away, and besides, the worst it would do is make things not work until the 26th when it actually IS stable and I could just update again, n'est ce pas?
[01:45] <soundray> Shadowthrone: what order do you want?
[01:46] <LjL> matthew_w: non, ce n'est pas. it could break your system and you'd have to either sort it out manually, if you manage to find out how, or reinstall from scratch.
[01:46] <Shadowthrone> soundray: The obvious thing to do is delete one and re-add it, but I would have thought there was a more elegant way.
[01:46] <Shadowthrone> sounday: Eterm then gaim.
[01:46] <Shadowthrone> soundray: Eterm then gaim.
[01:46] <TubaSoldier> how would i go about "installing" the kernel source after compiling it from source myself? do i simply place the source in the /usr/src folder?
[01:46] <LjL> !kernel > TubaSoldier
[01:46] <TubaSoldier> thanks
[01:47] <soundray> Shadowthrone: I don't think there is a more elegant way.
[01:47] <jvai> ooi ppl
[01:47] <Shadowthrone> soundray: Okay, not to worry. Thanks for your time.
[01:47] <matthew_w> LjL; the likelihood that something so fundamental as to shatter my system would change over the course of 2 days?
[01:47] <soundray> Shadowthrone: if it changes the order by itself, you could start gaim from within an eterm.
[01:47] <Shadowthrone> soundray: Is it possible to automate that?
[01:48] <Shadowthrone> soundray: Or are we in "scripting" territory?
[01:48] <mike_eyb> I need serious help
[01:48] <LjL> matthew_w: low, i would hope, since i'm running edgy. *but* the developers should (and do) feel free to tweak things freely, knowing that they won't break users' machines (well, only the ones of the users who decided to help testing). just keep this in mind.
[01:49] <greenman> okay, so I'm pretty certain I'm ready to install, can any of you think of commonly forgotten things to backup?  I got htdocs, a dump of the sql, all of /etc, my personal folder, and a backup of my wifes computer, and a backup of my old computer....
[01:49] <soundray> Shadowthrone: no, not scripting, just commandlining. Something like 'eterm -e gaim' should work
[01:49] <mike_eyb> I installed Ubuntu yesturday and i'm so freaking lost right now
[01:49] <matthew_w> LjL; one final question, running update-manager again on Thursday will bring it to stable, yes?
[01:49] <Shadowthrone> soundray: Awesome, I'll have a go with that. Thanks.
[01:49] <jrib> mike_eyb: system > help > system documentation   should explain the basics
[01:50] <mike_eyb> i've been there
[01:50] <jrib> mike_eyb: what do you want to know more about?
[01:50] <LjL> matthew: no. it might even try installing Feisty Fawn (that is, Edgy+1), though i doubt it. after you have Edgy installed, it'll be brought to stable by the automatic updater -- or by you manually, by running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" (or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for that matter)
[01:50] <mike_eyb> from wjat i gather i need to edit the xconfig file but to say what?
[01:50] <Hilmar> Tho, is there anyone else who can advice a tool for configuring my firewall, something not requiring X, and not that complicated
[01:50] <matthew_w> LjL; ok, good, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't need to redo everything etc.
[01:50] <matthew_w> LjL; thanks.
[01:50] <jrib> mike_eyb: what are you trying to do?
[01:50] <lupine_85> Hilmar: iptables ;)
[01:51] <LjL> Hilmar, i do think shorewall is your best bet.
[01:51] <mike_eyb> run dual heads but not in clone mode
[01:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell mike_eyb about xinerama
[01:51] <Hilmar> I look very complicated
[01:51] <Hilmar> the .conf file looks very complicated
[01:51] <Hilmar> I=It
[01:52] <mike_eyb> i have heard about ximerama but don't know what it is. Is it a program that i have to install
[01:52] <sidny4> Hilmar http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm
[01:52] <phasegen> what is the best cd ripper to install on xubuntu?  I'm trying it on my laptop.
[01:52] <jrib> mike_eyb: ubotu should have sent you a private message containing information about it
[01:52] <Hilmar> Thanx, will take a look
[01:52] <soundray> mike_eyb: it's more like a mode to run the X window system in
[01:52] <everamzah> is the centrino duo an smp processor?
[01:52] <mike_eyb> but how do i enable the mode
[01:53] <soundray> phasegen: I like abcde
[01:53] <soundray> !abcde
[01:53] <ubotu> abcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.99.2-1 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 276 kB
[01:53] <IRC_> i installed w32codecs but i cant play launch videos with pklaunch. what else do i need to play videos?
[01:53] <cafuego> everamzah: no
[01:53] <soundray> mike_eyb: by following the instructions you got from ubotu
[01:53] <Hilmar> Shorewall uses iptables right?
[01:53] <cafuego> everamzah: it might be multi-core though.
[01:53] <Hilmar> it just configures them>?
[01:54] <jrib> mike_eyb: the page ubotu sent you to tells you
[01:54] <cafuego> everamzah: (In which case you'll want an SMP kernel)
[01:54] <everamzah> cafuego: thanks. im trying to compile a kernel on my new laptop, and having probs...
[01:54] <phasegen> I'll give it a try...    Thanks Folks!
[01:54] <IRC_> i installed w32codecs but i cant play launch videos with pklaunch. what else do i need to play videos?
[01:54] <Sefyroth> How do I configure stuff like resolution and sound drivers and stuff like that with Fluxbox^
[01:54] <mike_eyb> I'm running an ati card and i copied the xorg.conf file for the ATI card in to mine and restarted my machine and both monitor are working however that are cloning each other
[01:55] <greenman> okay, so I'm pretty certain I'm ready to install, can any of you think of commonly forgotten things to backup? I got htdocs, a dump of the sql, all of /etc, my personal folder, and a backup of my wifes computer, and a backup of my old computer....
[01:55] <soundray> mike_eyb: look at your chat client. There should be a private message from ubotu. Read and follow that.
[01:56] <mike_eyb> tx
[01:57] <soundray> greenman: I usually save /var/cache/apt/archives to save having to re-download
[01:57] <greenman> soundray: oh, this isn't ubuntu, i'm switching distros :)
[01:58] <eddieduce> I've installed pan but get handshake failed errors.  what gives?
[01:58] <soundray> greenman: any spools, mail, print, fax?
[01:58] <IRC_> i installed w32codecs but i cant play launch videos with pklaunch. what else do i need to play videos?
[01:58] <hikenboot> hello all I think i have found a solution to my nvidia problems...problem is it says to edit a file to fix the problem but it failts to say which one http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL/Troubleshooting its in the section "plain-Jane X serve"  can anyone tell me what file its talking about?
[01:58] <greenman> soundray: nope.  thanks.
[02:00] <nekohayo> hey there, does anyone have archives of the old ubuntu artworks (GDM themes for example) of the previous releases? Or know a place where they are archived? Any way to get those nowadays?
[02:00] <Flannel> hikenboot: have you tried the ubuntu specific XGL instructions?
[02:00] <jvai> is dapper able to work w/ the linksys wifi 54g card?
[02:01] <cafuego> jvai: Maybe. You'll have to give us specific model (and chipset) info.
[02:01] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know why when I try to use Terminal Server Client in fullscreen mode, I get a LONG list of errors?
[02:01] <sidny4> jvai, might have to use ndiswrapper but it should
[02:01] <hikenboot> Flannel got a link?
[02:01] <Flannel> hikenboot: #ubuntu-xgl and I believe it's in the topic
[02:01] <Flannel> !xgl
[02:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:01] <Flannel> that too
[02:02] <soundray> SpudDogg: no, sorry... but were you able to fix your madwifi prob?
[02:02] <fibs> DOES UBUNTU SUPPORT MY GEFORCE 7950 THANKX
[02:02] <hikenboot> thanks will try
[02:02] <lupine_85> YES
[02:02] <SpudDogg> soundray, yes, i got that one fixed
[02:02] <lupine_85> !nvidia
[02:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:02] <jvai> snnaap. a friend has the card...i gave her a breezy cd install/live to play with
[02:02] <LjL> whatthe
[02:02] <LjL> !ops
[02:02] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:03] <ajmitch> LjL: yes?
[02:03] <fibs> Hi, I have a USRobotics 33.6 Win95.. what is the status of this in Ubuntu, will it function?
[02:03] <soundray> fibs: how is it connected?
[02:03] <LjL> ajmitch: err, look at the joins in the last minute
[02:03] <fibs> Internal ISA
[02:04] <ajmitch> LjL: do you mean the netsplit?
[02:04] <preaction> LjL, it's called a netsplit
[02:04] <jvai> yea, that was alot of ppl
[02:04] <LjL> oh it was a netsplit... somehow i missed the parts
[02:04] <LjL> sorry
[02:04] <fibs> LjL: wow whats going on
[02:04] <LjL> !netsplit
[02:04] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[02:04] <fibs> Are We in a netsplit
[02:04] <jvai> oo
[02:05] <soundray> fibs: are you sure it's a winmodem?
[02:05] <preaction> fibs, no, that's what all those joins were
[02:05] <LjL> no, it should be up now
[02:05] <fibs> soundray: i think so im in windows right now
[02:05] <fibs> my brother in law told me it was
[02:05] <fibs> hes a linux guy
[02:05] <RogerBacon> hey, i have a ipod 5g. How i mount it manually (is not automounted)
[02:05] <preaction> you'll see a bunch of quits with (serverOne serverTwo) as the quit message, then a bunch of joins
[02:06] <preaction> RogerBacon, dmesg will tell you where it's been assigned a device node, then mount -t auto /dev/<whatever> /media/ipod
[02:07] <wikijeff> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without using all of my data? (Aside from restoring it from backup) I would like to keep the stuff in my home directory.
[02:08] <soundray> fibs: to be sure, you might have to look at the card itself and find a chipset identifier. Then you can check http://www.linmodems.org/ . I think for a fairly old model like that, the Lucent driver is most likely to work.
[02:08] <Flannel> wikijeff: is /home on it's own partition?
[02:08] <LjL> wikijeff: use the Alternate CD, and tell it to not format the partition.
[02:08] <SpudDogg> soundray, hey man, do you think you can help me with another problem?
[02:08] <wikijeff> Flannel, no it isn't. Ljl, what' the alternate CD?
[02:08] <LjL> !alternate
[02:08] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:09] <Y0da^> does anyone know if there's 3d acceleration support for an ati agp 345m card?
[02:09] <Flannel> wikijeff: you should think about putting /home on it's own partition, then you can reinstall 'around' your home partition
[02:09] <SpudDogg> !pastebin
[02:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:09] <soundray> SpudDogg: I will certainly try. So will all the *real* experts on this channel
[02:09] <sidny4> personally, I prefer the alternate CD, the desktop cd seems buggy
[02:09] <LjL> wikijeff: what i've done sometimes was to 1) boot the install CD 2) go to a console 3) remove everything from the partition, except /home, using the console 4) tell the installer not to format the partition 5) install
[02:09] <LjL> a backup would still be preferred though. now i keep /home in a separate partition
[02:10] <greenman> i got a laugh out of this:
[02:10] <greenman> i'm a little n00bie short and stout, here is my nickname here is my SHOUT!!!1 when i get all flamed up hear me SHOUT!!1 ban me forever, kick me out
[02:10] <wikijeff> Ok, it sounds like I should just put /home on a separate partition, I assume this would be best for updating to edgy as well. When installing using the Live CD will it be clear to me how to do this?
[02:10] <SpudDogg> soundray, experts:  I keep getting this error every time I install something via Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs.  Any ideas?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28037/
[02:11] <Dr_willis> wikijeff,  it pays to pay attention. :P
[02:11] <LjL> wikijeff: yes, but *you'll have to backup the current /home first!* you can't just make a new partition and have /home magically move there
[02:11] <Dr_willis> you will have to tell it what partition should be mounted as /home
[02:11] <Dr_willis> and IVE had issues with gnome/kde configs   when upgrading and keeping /home
[02:11] <soundray> SpudDogg: run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and pastebin the full output
[02:11] <wikijeff> Ljl, ok. I already backed up what I want to save from /home
[02:12] <wikijeff> Should I just wait a week until Edgy is released and then do a clean install?
[02:12] <phasegen> ubotu,  soundray,   you were absolutely correct.  abcde works just like I wanted.  Thank You.
[02:12] <LjL> wikijeff: you should most probably wait until it's released, yes. whether it's clean install or upgrade, that's really up to you
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> why ya talking to the bot phasegen ??
[02:13] <LjL> phasegen, ubotu is a bot
[02:13] <SpudDogg> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28038/
[02:13] <everamzah> that's not to say he doesnt have emotions haha
[02:13] <soundray> why not, wickedpuppy? Bot's been helpful ;)
[02:13] <phasegen> then whoever wrote him, I owe a thanks to.
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> ah bot just does what it has been instructed ... saying thanks to the bot's writer would make more sense
[02:14] <Y0da^> So.... does anyone know if there's 3d acceleration support for an ati agp 345m card?
[02:14] <LjL> !ati | Y0da^
[02:14] <ubotu> Y0da^: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <wikijeff> Flannel, Ljl, Dr_willis, thanks guys
[02:15] <phasegen> maybe I'll get thanked for any good my son does.  I get blamed for his screw-ups
[02:15] <Y0da^> okay... that doesn't apply to this card.
[02:15] <Y0da^> the ATI (fglrx) driver isn't for the 345m
[02:16] <YBH_1> firefox 2.0 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/en-US/
[02:17] <soundray> SpudDogg: this is a slightly brutal approach, but I think it'll work: 'sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:18] <Y0da^> So.... does anyone know if there's 3d acceleration support for an ati agp 345m card?
[02:18] <SpudDogg> soundray, i really do not want to have to format...are you sure this isn't going to screw anything up?
[02:19] <soundray> SpudDogg: no. LjL, do you have an opinion about this?
[02:19] <Random_Transit> hey, is it normal for amarok to be eating up over 100MB of my RAM>?
[02:19] <Hydra> hi
[02:19] <Hydra> how can i find which package provides a given file?
[02:19] <soundray> Random_Transit: hey, it's a modern application ;)
[02:19] <Hydra> e.g. mount.cifs
[02:19] <Y0da^> does anyone know if there's a mIRC for linux
[02:20] <LjL> soundray: what happened? is that RPM packages installed through alien and breaking stuff?
[02:20] <Flannel> Hydra: packages.ubuntu.com has a search
[02:20] <RogerBacon> hey, i have a 55GO (from gigabeat S) HDD, and i put it into my ipod to view the system file and system file but i have several error code from mount and fdisk ...
[02:20] <soundray> LjL: no, I think it's a circular dependency between ubuntu proper packages
[02:20] <Flannel> Y0da^: there isn't.  xChat is comparable
[02:20] <Hydra> Flannel, can you not use the package manager / apt-something ?
[02:20] <Krux0> is there anyway i can download all the packages i have installed on my system so that i may be able to tar the archive dir in /var and bring it over to a pc that is not networked
[02:20] <Flannel> Hydra: The problem is that information isn't available to the package manager until after the install
[02:21] <LjL> soundray: hmm, then if it's really a circular dep, i'd try "dpkg --force-depends -i package1" and "dpkg --force-depends -i package2", and then see if apt-get is happy with that
[02:21] <Hydra> weird
[02:21] <Hydra> i know with other package manages you can ask "--what-provides=<filename>"
[02:21] <LjL> soundray: in other words, install them all by hands, and see if then APT realizes "oh, the dependencies *are* satisfied after all!"
[02:21] <Hydra> odd then, smbfs provides mount.cifs
[02:21] <Hydra> which i installed
[02:21] <Hydra> maybe a reboot is required?
[02:21] <soundray> Hydra: mount.cifs is in smbfs. 'sudo apt-get -f install apt-file ; sudo apt-file update ; apt-file search mount.cifs'
[02:22] <Hydra> what does apt-file update do ?
[02:22] <Flannel> Hydra: reboots aren't required except for kernel updates
[02:22] <Parisi> Hmm.
[02:22] <soundray> SpudDogg: did you follow this? I'd try my suggestion first, then LjL's if that fails.
[02:22] <Parisi> Anyone using Eft + Beryl?
[02:22] <LjL> Hydra: it creates/updates the apt-file database, which contains filename-to-package correspondences
[02:22] <Random_Transit> Flannel, not entirely true
[02:22] <Random_Transit> i just had to do one because i updated a bunch of MIME Settings
[02:22] <Hydra> ok, after vista has installed i'll try booting back into linux and check that out
[02:23] <SpudDogg> soundray, no i have not done anything yet...everything works fine, i just get the error.  do you think i should even play with it?
[02:23] <Flannel> Random_Transit: er, you shouldn't have.  Maybe restarting gnome
[02:23] <Random_Transit> Flannel...i'm using XFCE
[02:23] <Flannel> Random_Transit: whatever, restarting [your WM] 
[02:24] <LjL> soundray, oh, well that's really just about the same thing i was saying. though perhaps "redhat-cluster-suite*.deb" is not enough, and you'd have to have to add "clvm" and other dependencies as well... or for that matter, "sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/*" ;-) perhaps this one *
[02:24] <soundray> SpudDogg: to be honest, forcing an install despite of a buggy dependency is not *that* risky. It will still remove cleanly, if it still doesn't work.
[02:24] <LjL> is* too brutal though
[02:24] <LjL> soundray, are the packages in /var/cache/apt or /var/cache/apt/archives anyway? i thought the latter
[02:24] <SpudDogg> soundray, ok, so you want me to try your suggestion first?
[02:25] <soundray> SpudDogg: no, LjL just found a bug...
[02:25] <soundray> SpudDogg: this is a slightly brutal approach, but I think it'll work: 'sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:25] <ferret0567> How do I reconfigure xserver-xorg after install?
[02:25] <soundray> SpudDogg: something else before you start...
[02:25] <LjL> pray :P
[02:26] <soundray> SpudDogg: make sure there is only one package that matches /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, actually the command is on top of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:26] <SpudDogg> soundray, how do i check that?
[02:26] <LjL> SpudDogg: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb
[02:26] <soundray> SpudDogg: with ls ;)
[02:26] <iammisc>  I have an HP_Officejet d145. This printer is shared via ipp. The cups on the remote computer DOES NOT AND NEVER WILL accept raw connections. The gnome-cups-add wizard does not allow me to select a normal postscript driver but use the hp officejet d145 ppd file. How do i get this to work?
[02:26] <ferret0567> What does that mean?
[02:27] <sidny4> ferret0567 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, that means read that file ?
[02:27] <ferret0567> Oh, edit it...
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> or just use the command given by sidny4
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> no read ... not edit
[02:27] <LjL> ( soundray: if [ `ls /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite*.deb | wc -l` == 1 ] ; then echo "YES, there is only one\!"; else echo "No, sorry..."; fi )
[02:27] <SpudDogg> LjL, soundray, the only output is /var/cache/apt/archives/redhat-cluster-suite_1.20060222-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[02:27] <LjL> SpudDogg: alright, then go ahead
[02:28] <soundray> SpudDogg: all right, go ahead then ;)
[02:28] <ferret0567> Have you tested this method sidny4?
[02:28] <sidny4> yup
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, do this less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> you will see the line given by sidny4
[02:29] <ferret0567> Cause I have a NVIDIA Geforce 4 MX 440 with AGP 8x and a Dell 2005FPW monitor (widescreen 1680x1050@60Hz res)
[02:29] <SpudDogg> LjL, soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28040/
[02:30] <ferret0567> And that is annoying with the monitor I am sure and just 2 quick changes with NVIDIA
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, i am using nvidia gforce 5500.. never have problem for 5 years of using linux
[02:31] <ferret0567> The video card is easy the monitor not so easy
[02:31] <ferret0567> I have never used NVIDIA on Linux before
[02:31] <soundray> SpudDogg: do you actually have LVM partitions?
[02:31] <SpudDogg> soundray, what is LVM?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> ah widescreen ... i am using normal 19 inch lcd ... nvidia on linux is pretty good i can tell ya .. i never had bad experience with it before
[02:32] <SpudDogg> soundray, i partitioned with the winblows installer
[02:32] <soundray> SpudDogg: logical volume manager. If you have to ask, you don't have any.
[02:32] <ferret0567> Widescreen will be annoying...
[02:32] <ferret0567> Any tips for this monitor would help...
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, call dell ?
[02:33] <soundray> SpudDogg: You don't need clvm. Do a 'sudo apt-get --purge remove clvm'
[02:33] <sidny4> ferret0567, have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[02:33] <ferret0567> Ok....but I will have to admit I am using Linux on thier hardware as the machine is a Dell Dimension 4600
[02:33] <ferret0567> No
[02:33] <LjL> soundray: it's depended on by redhat-cluster-suite however
[02:34] <SpudDogg> soundray, same error at the end
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, why not install nvidia first then ?????????????????
[02:34] <sidny4> ok, you'll want to install them
[02:34] <sidny4> !nvidia
[02:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <ferret0567> Just installing with xserver-xorg set to use default 1024x768 and lower screen reses...with the alternative install cd...
[02:34] <CTho> on boot, I have no networking with http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/596 under VMware Player.
[02:34] <Bagoor> I have two ext3 partition, which the data of first one is important, but the second one is free. Is there any way to merge them, and make them one partition ?
[02:34] <sidny4> and it should be in the universal repositories
[02:35] <SpudDogg> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28042/
[02:35] <ferret0567> I will want to install the NVIDIA drivers first before I configure the monitor further
[02:35] <soundray> LjL: this is getting difficult -- it won't uninstall before it's configured.
[02:35] <kholerabbi> I am using dapper livecd on a asus laptop. The touchpad works to move around and click, but it wont scroll or drag. Is there anything I could do to make these work or customize the pad at all?
[02:35] <sidny4> ferret0567, yes, you will want to install the driver
[02:35] <ScrnNme34> hello, how come "sudo make install" wont work from terminal?
[02:36] <LjL> soundray: --force-configure-any, in dpkg: "Configure also any unpacked but unconfigured packages on which the current package depends."
[02:36] <Flannel> ScrnNme34: what error does it give you?
[02:36] <sidny4> ScrnNme34, you'll probably need build-essential
[02:36] <ScrnNme34> bash:  unknown cmnd Make
[02:36] <LjL> soundray: not *really* sure what that means... what i was looking for was a "pretend package was configured" option, not sure it's the one
[02:36] <ScrnNme34> oooooooooh Yeah.   OK  search for "build-essential" in Synaptic. got it
[02:37] <ferret0567> I know...no 3D acceleration...no support in "nv" driver for resolutions larger than 1024x768 I think too...
[02:37] <ScrnNme34> thanks sidny
[02:37] <sidny4> no prob
[02:37] <sidny4> what are you talking about ferret0567?
[02:37] <soundray> I don't think that's the one, LjL
[02:38] <ferret0567> In the "nv" default NVIDIA open-source driver before installing the propriatory one you referenced those are the limitations
[02:39] <soundray> SpudDogg: we'll have to force a successful run of the post-installation script
[02:39] <LjL> soundray: i dunno. want an even worse suggestion?  echo -e "#!/bin/sh\nexit 0" >/etc/init.d/clvm ; chmod +x /etc/init.d/clvm
[02:39] <SpudDogg> soundray, hey man, baby steps...
[02:39] <Bagoor> how can I see the size of a folder ?
[02:40] <LjL> Bagoor: du
[02:40] <soundray> SpudDogg: the post-installation script is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.postinst. Open it with gksudo gedit (or your favorite editor)
[02:40] <ferret0567> The limitations of the NVIDIA open-source driver are these: no 3d acceleration for sure and no support for resolutions larger than 1024x768 I think
[02:40] <SpudDogg> soundray, what exactly am i looking for in the file?
[02:41] <Siph0n> which is easier/possible, 1) installing ubuntu over a network? or 2) installing ubuntu from a portable usb hard drive?
[02:41] <sidny4> ferret0567, where are you getting this?
[02:41] <LjL> ferret0567: not true. i think there is some 3D acceleration, though much less than in the binary driver, and it can most definitely support high resolutions
[02:41] <pike_> ah flash 9 beta works well :)
[02:41] <soundray> SpudDogg: a point before it does anything serious. At that point, you insert the line 'exit 0'. Then you do another 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:41] <LjL> !install > Siph0n
[02:41] <ferret0567> Good thing to be corrected
[02:41] <unipac> hello all
[02:41] <ferret0567> From my own head
[02:41] <SpudDogg> soundray, lol.  you want to see the file and tell me where to put that?
[02:42] <Siph0n> thanx Ljl! :)
[02:42] <sidny4> ic ic, is that a viable source? :P
[02:42] <ferret0567> If other people know more than clarify me
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, you mean you been saying whatever comes to your head?
[02:42] <unipac> help me, how do I change my password of root?
[02:42] <soundray> SpudDogg: no, put it as the second line, after the #!/bin... stuff
[02:42] <ferret0567> No, that was out of my memory
[02:42] <LjL> !root > unipac
[02:42] <CTho> unipac: sudo passwd ?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, thats fine but pls don't scare us here ...
[02:42] <unipac> CTho, how try man
[02:42] <LjL> wickedpuppy: you should be more scared by the binary driver, since it's exploitable ;-)
[02:42] <eck0> hi all
[02:43] <eck0> anyone used cedega?
[02:43] <sidny4> I agree with wickedpuppy :D
[02:43] <sidny4> eck0, sure do
[02:43] <eck0> do you use eve-online
[02:43] <unipac> CTho, nothing..
[02:43] <sidny4> nope
[02:43] <LjL> unipac, please read what the bot told you
[02:43] <ruuu> tengo una pregunta , no puedo iniciar sesion ni con mi particion de linux ni con la de windows porke me salio un problema del grub erro 15 , quiero saber como puedo formatear SOLO la particion de win2
[02:43] <unipac> LjL, Where
[02:43] <LjL> !es
[02:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:43] <sidny4> !es
[02:43] <LjL> !root | unipac
[02:43] <ubotu> unipac: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:43] <sidny4> man, my kb stinks
[02:44] <unipac> ubotu, I knew
[02:44] <SpudDogg> soundray, success!  i think... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28044/
[02:44] <LjL> unipac: then why are you asking about changing you root password?
[02:44] <ferret0567> Huh, with the alternative install CD with XFS on /, swap ,JFS on /home, then logical container containing FAT32 it suggests I install LILO
[02:44] <sidny4> I love how people think ubotu is someone
[02:45] <ferret0567> uboto is a robot
[02:45] <sidny4> indubitably
[02:45] <soundray> SpudDogg: yes, well, clvm still won't work, but since you don't need it, it won't really matter...
[02:45] <soundray> SpudDogg: what are you setting up a cluster for?
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, really .. have you been using linux for a long time ?
[02:45] <LjL> ubotu, are you a robot?
[02:46] <SpudDogg> soundray, im not setting up any clusters.  that error started when i installed some package i cant remember.  thank you for the help man!
[02:46] <eck0> anyone play eve-online thru cedega
[02:46] <ferret0567> I knew that when it responded to me very quickly. Repremending me of stuff that *should* have gone to the paste bin
[02:46] <unipac> LjL, thanks
[02:46] <ferret0567> I have been wickedpuppy
[02:47] <pike_> eck0: might try /j cedega
[02:47] <ferret0567> 1.2 years atleast
[02:47] <eck0> i got it but when eve opens it says windows 2000 sp2 required
[02:47] <eck0> but its supposto emu
[02:47] <soundray> SpudDogg: you're welcome. Remember, this was a bit of a quick and dirty solution. Consider removing all three of the problematic packages.
[02:47] <LjL> eck0, if you run "winecfg", you can set Wine to behave as a specific version of windows. try telling it it's Windows XP
[02:47] <sidny4> eck0, have you switched it to play under windows 2k or windows xp?
[02:47] <ferret0567> Hmm...should I use LILO?
[02:48] <SpudDogg> soundray, well, i'll wait until i have a problem to uninstall anyhting else.  if it aint broke...
[02:48] <SpudDogg> soundray, but thanks again man.  brb
[02:48] <eck0> how would i do that
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> ferret0567, if so ... lilo or grub .. either one should be familiar for you
[02:48] <Tini2> Hello guys.
[02:48] <soundray> SpudDogg: technically, it *is* broken... anyway, glad I could help a bit...
[02:48] <LjL> eck0, type "winecfg" in a console.
[02:48] <pvt_harv> hi Tini2
[02:48] <LjL> soundray: it sure is
[02:49] <ferret0567> I have used LILO before but not for a long time
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> there is always google ...
[02:49] <eck0> im using cedega not wine
[02:49] <Tini2> pvt_harv: hi :p
[02:49] <sidny4> umm, right click on the game shortcut and go to settings or properties, then in there somewhere you should be able to switch it to windows xp
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> since this channel can't sasy rtfm , is it ok to say stfg ?
[02:49] <LjL> eck0: then i don't know, but there has to be a similar option somewhere
[02:49] <sidny4> stfg?
[02:50] <LjL> !rtfm
[02:50] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[02:50] <CTho> if the vmware network module loads, why would i get "No such device" in ifup/ifdown?
[02:50] <ferret0567> Does LILO boot from XFS?
[02:50] <LjL> soundray: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=clvm&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[02:50] <iammisc> how do i make cups use a ppd file from a printer but have it use the postscript driver.
[02:50] <eck0> it works
[02:50] <ferret0567> This LILO apperantly is in the ALternatve install CD
[02:50] <iammisc> Why is ubuntu so complicated?
[02:51] <sidny4> eck0, sweet
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> sidny4, got my message ? LOL
[02:51] <soundray> SpudDogg: the clean solution would now be to compile a new clvm package that fixes the postinstall bug and install it over the old one.
[02:51] <ferret0567> Does LILO chainload/boot Windows XP Home?
[02:51] <sidny4> wickedpuppy, haha, I like that one
[02:51] <soundray> LjL: oh, thanks. SpudDogg, did you see that? It's a known bug.
[02:52] <pvt_harv> ferret0567: yes, i believe so
[02:52] <eck0> it works but laggy as hell
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> sidny4, too bad we all be kick/banned for saying it on the main channel :P
[02:52] <sidny4> wickedpuppy, I know, people are too sensitive and lazy
[02:53] <LjL> oh, and p
[02:53] <cpk2> wickedpuppy: stfg?
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> sidny4, well ... happy helping dude .. i go watch ghost in the shell
[02:53] <sidny4> LjL, wouldn't that be 4 then?
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> cpk2, no i won't explain it here ... sorry
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:53] <sidny4> alright, catch ya later
[02:53] <LjL> sidny4: five actually, since ! needs shift
[02:53] <cpk2> dang
[02:53] <sidny4> true, true
[02:54] <eck0> i dunno but it laggs like its the programs job lol
[02:54] <sidny4> you should make that combo into a macro, then all you need is one fingure :D
[02:54] <sidny4> finger*
[02:55] <hockyhair> is there a repo with newest xmame? im having problems with the version i have
[02:55] <LjL> anyway, what stfg means is easy to discover... well, unless you don't know how to stfg
[02:55] <sidny4> and if you don't, you shouldn't be allowed to use technology
[02:55] <iammisc> i have a remotely attached printer(ipp and an HP Officejet d145). I dont want to use hpijs from the client because my cups server is quite capable of converting between postscript and hp language. Theppd file on linuxprinting.org uses hpijs. The ppd file describes the margins and the double sided printing stuff. How do i make the foomatic driver use just the normal postscript driver?
[02:55] <ferret0567> Well...just rebooted into XP to test if it works and it does so now I am booting into Ubuntu (a shiny, new install(
[02:56] <cpk2> well i am just wondering what g is, google?
[02:56] <LjL> cpk2: bingo
[02:56] <sidny4> cpk2, ding ding ding ding, we have a winner
[02:56] <cpk2> well that isnt very grammatically correct
[02:57] <LjL> cpk2: is the meaning of "stfu" grammatically correct?
[02:57] <Music_Shuffle> Heh
[02:57] <soundray> Oops, cpk2, you forgot an apostrophe between the 'n' and the 't' ;)
[02:58] <hockyhair> im having problems with xmame.SDL 1.01 it is transparent where it should be black
[02:58] <hockyhair> i have this issue in beryl
[02:58] <LjL> !xgl | hockyhair
[02:58] <ubotu> hockyhair: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:58] <hockyhair> im pretty sure it works in other frontends like ob3 or gnome np
[02:58] <ferret0567> Oh, no! A LILO error! L 99 99 99 99 for a while then stops
[02:58] <hockyhair> LjL: ?
[02:59] <ferret0567> Now what?
[02:59] <pike_> ferret0567: install grub? :)
[02:59] <ferret0567> And how do I do that once I have already partitioned
[02:59] <ferret0567> >
[02:59] <ferret0567> ?
[02:59] <LjL> hockyhair: if you're using Beryl with XGL/AIGLX, it doesn't suprise me that some programs can do weird things, especially as the graphics are concerned. please ask in #ubuntu-xgl, or avoid using such experimental technology ;-)
[02:59] <LjL> ferret0567: grub-install
[02:59] <CTho> is there a way to use apt to downgrade from etch to dapper drake?
[02:59] <LjL> !downgrade
[02:59] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[02:59] <ferret0567> And what about the menu.lst?
[03:00] <eck0> does ur game lagg on cedega
[03:00] <soundray> CTho: no. Do a reinstall.
[03:00] <pike_> ferret0567: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto im sure youre pretty familiar
[03:00] <CTho> soundray: the dapper drake image I have gives me no networking
[03:00] <sidny4> well, my shift is over, cya later
[03:00] <soundray> CTho: then stick with edgy.
[03:00] <CTho> soundray: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/596
[03:01] <CTho> soundray: edgy can't compile mozilla
[03:01] <LjL> is that *edgy* or *etch* anyway
[03:01] <LjL> sounds terrible. why do you want to compile mozilla anyway?
[03:01] <soundray> CTho: then use the packaged version
[03:01] <CTho> soundray: that's not an option, i need a debug build that i can use for debugging
[03:01] <CTho> soundray: i'm a developer, so I kind of need to build
[03:01] <LjL> CTho: then what happens when you try to compile it?
[03:01] <CTho> LjL: link problems
[03:02] <CTho> LjL: the other developers think binutils is too new
[03:02] <sethk> CTho, no, that's not the problem
[03:02] <CTho> sethk: oh?
[03:02] <sethk> CTho, what link errors do you get, specifically?
[03:02] <LjL> CTho, you could always install Dapper in a virtual machine if all else fails
[03:02] <sethk> CTho, just the first one, usually when you get one you get hundreds
[03:03] <CTho> LjL: i'm running dapper ina  virtual machine
[03:03] <CTho> sethk: something about a weak reference
[03:03] <ferret0567> I have never messed with menu.lst before...
[03:03] <CTho> sethk: if you hang on a minute i can boot that image up...
[03:03] <sethk> CTho, ok
[03:03] <soundray> CTho: so, to summarize, in order to be able to compile mozilla with debug symbols, you would like to downgrade from edgy to dapper. ;-)
[03:03] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble with X failing to start with Intel integrated 845G graphics chipset - text console is fine; X error output complains about not finding BIOS video modes; any ideas?
[03:03] <sethk> CTho, usually the weak reference message is a warning
[03:04] <laszlok> is there a way to put my resolution back to the default one after a fullscreen application crashes without restarting X?
[03:05] <pike_> ferret0567: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda      i think from the ubuntu livecd
[03:05] <LjL> CTho, what vmware are you using? networking was fine in the vmware-player package i used (which is in multiverse)
[03:05] <CTho> LjL: player
[03:05] <CTho> LjL: on winXP, but that really shouldn't matter
[03:05] <pike_> ferret0567: or did you have questions about something specific in menu.lst ?
[03:06] <LjL> pike_: shouldn't that be more like sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/hda1 /dev/hda, from the cd?
[03:06] <Chippy> hello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver, but everytime I do the kernel module gets the wrong version (7xxx or something, installing 8776), and so will boot into X once (no idea why the first time works), but anytime after that X crashes.  Any ideas?
[03:06] <ferret0567> I need GRUB installed, the whole thing
[03:06] <soundray> laszlok: tried System-Preferences-Screen Resolution?
[03:06] <ferret0567> Including menu.lst having an option for XP
[03:06] <pike_> LjL: yeah if you want to be all accurate about it :)
[03:07] <Flannel> ferret0567: the grub installer will autodetect windows, and add it
[03:07] <CTho> woah, ubuntu plays a sound when i log in
[03:07] <CTho> must have had it muted last night
[03:07] <laszlok> soundray: that doesnt do it for some reason
[03:08] <ferret0567> And Ubuntu and it's kernel on the installed drive if I just tell grub to use files in /dev/hdb1?
[03:08] <soundray> laszlok: xvidtune comes to mind...
[03:08] <soundray> !xvidtune
[03:08] <ubotu> xvidtune: X client - xvidtune. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 100 kB
[03:08] <ferret0567> Nothing but trying it out will help I guess...
[03:08] <Flannel> ferret0567: er... yes?  Not really sure I understand that question
[03:09] <Code-E> How do I install Java Runtime Environment in xubuntu
[03:09] <Flannel> !tell Code-E about java
[03:09] <Chippy> hello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver version 8776, but each time I install it the kernel module picks up the wrong version and so X crashes.  Can anyone help?
[03:09] <soundray> laszlok: just hit 'Next' and 'Previous'
[03:09] <eck0> when you guys installed did it ask for a root pw?
[03:09] <eck0> cuz it didnt ask me
[03:09] <preaction> !root > eck0
[03:09] <Flannel> eck0: no.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[03:09] <laszlok> soundray: thanks! it worked
[03:09] <eck0> then how do i install stuff?
[03:09] <mezoko> HI
[03:09] <marcrosoft> eck0, but you can make one
[03:09] <eck0> its asking me for super user stuff
[03:09] <Flannel> eck0: read the link ubotu sent you
[03:09] <preaction> eck0, look at what ubotu says
[03:10] <Flannel> marcrosoft: but he has no reason to
[03:10] <mezoko> When trying to connect to a nfs share I get, mount rpc timedout
[03:10] <CTho> LjL: ok, undefined reference to nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference(nsIWeakReference**)
[03:10] <mezoko> any suggestiosn
[03:10] <cafuego> eck0: You use 'sudo' to run things as root.
[03:10] <marcrosoft> eck0, i prefer to use root account
[03:10] <Flannel> marcrosoft: but he has no reason to
[03:10] <cafuego> eck0: if the installer wants your root password, it is broken and you should probably avoind the software.
[03:10] <preaction> sudo su, sudo -S, etc... no permanent root account necessary
[03:10] <marcrosoft> Flannel, yeah...
[03:10] <eck0> i need to install video drivers
[03:10] <cpk2> Flannel: actually once sudo stopped working in the middle of a session and it was at that point i wished I had a root account set up
[03:10] <cafuego> eck0: which ones?
[03:10] <sethk> eck0, you can use root, or you can use sudo.  some people believe sudo is better (which is false) and say the root account is "not there" which is also false
[03:11] <marcrosoft> Flannel, didn't mean to jump in... just thought id through that out there
[03:11] <Chippy> hello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver version 8776, but each time I install it the kernel module picks up the wrong version and so X crashes.  Can anyone help?
[03:11] <iammisc> the open source radeon driver creates lines on my gtk buttons. Hwo come?
[03:11] <sethk> eck0, it's also false to say root is "disabled" or any of the other nonsense.
[03:11] <CTho> (or, sethk / soundray)
[03:11] <Xev> #linux-lationo
[03:11] <Flannel> sethk: no it's not.  the root login IS disabled
[03:11] <CTho> soundray: yes, it's a virtual machine - i don't really care about the distro / environment. ijust want to use valgrind
[03:11] <ferret0567> Flannel: "the grub installer will autodetect windows, and add it" plus the additional requirement of Ubuntu OS (main) boot option in the boot menu of GRUB automagically when GRUB is installed
[03:11] <sethk> Flannel, nonsense
[03:11] <cafuego> sethk: No, it's true.
[03:11] <sethk> Flannel, the password is not set.  the machine absolutely will not run without a working root account
[03:12] <SiliconViper> Hmm... is there another way to delete a file, if it doesn't respond to attempts via rm / unlink ?
[03:12] <sethk> Flannel, just do ps aux, you'll see all the processes running as root
[03:12] <cpk2> its not disabled you just dont have a password
[03:12] <CTho> http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=436507 solved my problem in dapper...now i just have to install a boatload of packages to get X and its libs ;)
[03:12] <cafuego> sethk: note he said "login disabled" not "account disabled".
[03:12] <sethk> cpk2, correct
[03:12] <Flannel> sethk: root account login is disabled.  Read ALL of those words, carefully
[03:12] <sethk> Flannel, not true.
[03:12] <sethk> Flannel, one _can_ disable a login, but not by leaving the password blank
[03:12] <Flannel> sethk: ubuntu doesn't have a blank password, the root account is disabled
[03:12] <Chippy> hello there.  I'm trying to install the nvidia driver version 8776, but each time I install it the X module picks up the wrong version and so X crashes.  Can anyone help?
[03:12] <sethk> Flannel, for example it's common to create accounts that cannot log in for email purposes.
[03:12] <marcrosoft> guys arguing over semantics
[03:12] <sethk> Flannel, no
[03:12] <marcrosoft> same difference
[03:12] <cafuego> sethk: You'll find the password is not blank. have a look.
[03:13] <cpk2> and i thought that root does have a password when you install but its just random
[03:13] <sethk> cafuego, of course not, I changed it  :)
[03:13] <sethk> cpk2, yes, that's correct
[03:13] <Flannel> sethk: #ubuntu-offtopic, for the rest of this discussion
[03:13] <Flannel> cafuego: you're welcome to join us ;)
[03:13] <sethk> when you can't prevail in a discussion, scream offtopic
[03:13] <eck0> w00t sudo worked
[03:13] <cafuego> cpk2: No, it's set to a string that cannot be the rsult of encryption (so no password will work, ever).
[03:13] <SiliconViper> cpk2, the password was probably set to non-useable by means of 'passwd -l' or something, if I were to guess.
[03:13] <sethk> anyway, CTho did you put up the error from the link?
[03:14] <CTho> seth: <CTho> LjL: ok, undefined reference to nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference(nsIWeakReference**)
[03:14] <Flannel> sethk: no.  Itdoesn't belong here.  Is there something stopping you from continuing in -offtopic?  stop making stuff up.
[03:14] <cafuego> eck0: keep in mind that nvidia and ati drivers are prepackaged and require no 3rd party installers.
[03:14] <LjL> sethk, uh... no it isn't?!
[03:14] <marcrosoft> its probably set to a random password
[03:14] <LjL> sethk: there is simply no root password in /etc/shadow
[03:14] <marcrosoft> sudp passwd to set it
[03:14] <eck0> i figured it out
[03:14] <LjL> sudo cat /etc/shadow | grep root
[03:14] <cafuego> marcrosoft: No, it's set to a string that cannot be the rsult of encryption (so no password will work, ever).a
[03:14] <cliffd> I have a /dev/md0 I made with mdadm, just data.. not boot or root and I need to re install... what do I need to do to preserve that raid set?
[03:14] <sethk> LjL, depends on which install options you choose
[03:14] <CTho> sethk: ^ sorry
[03:14] <sethk> LjL, if you choose the expert install (in the new one the OEM install) the root password is set, just as it is with any other distro
[03:14] <SiliconViper> LjL, that'd be the results of 'passwd -l'. Easy to fix, find the counter-argument in man passwd.
[03:14] <marcrosoft> cafuego, cannot be a result of encryption?
[03:15] <cafuego> marcrosoft: Yes, the encrypted root password ona  default desktop install is '*'.
[03:15] <cafuego> marcrosoft: None of the used algorithms produce '*' as encrypted result, no matter their input.
[03:16] <Jared> Hey guys, I tried to do a damnsmalllinux dual boot with ubuntu, and for some reason once i got it installed, it wont show up on grub, it just completely wont show ubuntu in the bootloader, and takes me straight to dsl
[03:16] <cafuego> marcrosoft: Ergo, no password can be used to login to that account, as authentication will always fail.
[03:16] <Chippy> Hey, installing the nvidia driver on Ubuntu (32 bit), on http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html I want which version of the driver?
[03:16] <SiliconViper> cafuego, which is what happens when you lock an account via passwd. Whoever orginally started this can reverse it with 'passwd -u root';
[03:16] <marcrosoft> cafuego, i see..
[03:16] <sethk> Jared, you isntalled another grub, and it is using another config file
[03:16] <marcrosoft> cafuego, the point is that you have to set it... if you want to switch user to root...
[03:16] <Jared> ack....okay so how do i fix that?
[03:16] <SiliconViper> *eats dinner*
[03:16] <LjL> SiliconViper: i'm not saying it's hard to fix (and i personally don't see a need to "fix" it anyway) - just countering the suggestion that the root password is set to random characters by the standard Ubuntu installer. it's not - the hash is simply set to "!"
[03:16] <sethk> SiliconViper, that's true I think for the default install options, but not, as I said, with other install option choices.
[03:16] <LjL> sethk: ok, not to random characters though
[03:17] <sethk> LjL, true
[03:17] <cafuego> marcrosoft: only if you somehow think 'su ' is a better way of doing things than 'sudo -s'.
[03:17] <Jared> hey sethk i'll brb going to an irc client that i can actually use
[03:17] <Chippy> wow, so no one here is helping me
[03:17] <Chippy> awesome
[03:17] <Flannel> !tell Chippy about nvidia
[03:17] <sethk> Chippy, lots of traffic.  what did you ask?
[03:17] <cafuego> Chippy: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[03:17] <marcrosoft> i perfer to know weather or not i cannot induce root based commands.... (root on the PS1) ... and i dont like typing sudo all the time.. :)
[03:18] <cafuego> Chippy: No need to downlaod stuff from nvidia.com
[03:18] <marcrosoft> cafuego, ^
[03:18] <cafuego> marcrosoft: Like I said, 'sudo -s'
[03:18] <Chippy> cafuego: mkay, will try that...
[03:19] <ramus> i got an error when trying to upgrade to edgy eft and after restarting, the boot process stops after 'mounting root file system'...it just brings up a blinking underscore and does nothing else
[03:19] <Jared> sethk, i'm back so anyway I can fix this without having to reinstall?
[03:19] <marcrosoft> cafuego, hmm,... never done that command, i expected it not to have the root on PS1... how can i set the password to '*' again?
[03:19] <cpk2> whats the difference between su - and sudo -s nothing?
[03:19] <pike_> ramus: sweet
[03:19] <sethk> Jared, you can easily reinstall only grub.
[03:19] <cafuego> marcrosoft: passwd -l root
[03:19] <sethk> Jared, either with grub-install, or with the grub utility
[03:19] <xipietotec> hey....how do i import icon themes?
[03:19] <cpk2> i've done sudo bash before but heard in this channel that for some mystic reason you shouldnt do sudo bash
[03:19] <Jared> Eh, keep in mind i'm 12, how do i do the grub-install, I've never tried to dual boot and thats why i'm having problmes
[03:20] <cafuego> marcrosoft: if you want to process roots login scripts, use 'sudo -i' (that DOES mean apps that need $DISPLAY won't run - but then, they don't on 'su -' either)
[03:20] <marcrosoft> cafuego, cool, only problem is sudo remembers you typed the password recently... thats kind of a security issue dont you agree?... can this be changed
[03:20] <pike_> ramus: can you boot in whatever theyre calling single user in grub? recovery mode?
[03:20] <ramus> not sure, how do you do that
[03:20] <sethk> cpk2, well, _if_ you shouldn't do su, then you shouldn't do sudo bash either.  That's part of why the sudo argument is so dumb, because instead of making it so there is a root password and you have to know it (plus your own), it makes it so you can be root by only knowing your own password.
[03:20] <cafuego> marcrosoft: it only remembers it for 10 minutes, but yes, you can change this.
[03:20] <marcrosoft> cafuego, i don't typically run gui apps with root
[03:21] <xipietotec> hey....how do i import icon themes? anyone?
[03:21] <CTho> sethk: undefined reference to nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference(nsIWeakReference**)
[03:21] <marcrosoft> cafuego, but if you use root and walk away from your computer.. someone could open with root
[03:21] <cafuego> marcrosoft: Check man sudoers for 'timestamp_timeout'
[03:22] <sethk> CTho, let me see where that appears.
[03:22] <marcrosoft> cafuego, guess its not too big of a deal where my computer is... do you know where to change that option?
[03:22] <CTho> sethk: modules/libpref is where the build dies
[03:22] <cafuego> marcrosoft: That's a moot point, as anyone with physical access can reboot with init=/bin/sh
[03:22] <greg_> hi ya'all has anyone gotten cinerella to compile on edgy?
[03:22] <greg_> cinelerra that is
[03:23] <cafuego> marcrosoft: on 'sudo visudo' add timestamp_timeout=0 to the Defaults line
[03:23] <marcrosoft> cafuego, i am not familiar with init=/bin/sh ... is this a way to get the local root password or something
[03:23] <cafuego> marcrosoft: it boots the machine straight into a root shell.
[03:23] <Flannel> greg_: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[03:23] <matthew_w> Hey uh
[03:24] <greg_> Flannel...ok thanks
[03:24] <GTroy_> how do I add myself to the sudoers file?  sudo addgroup myname admin won't work
[03:24] <sethk> CTho, it's definitely not in binutils, I just checked the source.
[03:24] <sethk> CTho, I'll see if I can find where it is, rather than only where it isn't.
[03:24] <CTho> sethk: it's a gecko string
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble with X failing to start with Intel integrated 845G graphics chipset - text console is fine; X error output complains about not finding BIOS video modes; any ideas?
[03:24] <GTroy_> I'm totally locked out of root priveleges
[03:24] <CTho> sethk: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey if you want to search
[03:24] <Squirrels> whats a good program for using an ipod?
[03:24] <jared2012> sethk check your pm please
[03:24] <GTroy_> Squirrels gtkpod
[03:24] <CTho> sethk: the concern was, the new linker/compiler version can't build moz
[03:24] <sethk> CTho, I don't know what you mean by a gecko string.  It's aun undefined linker symbol.
[03:25] <pike_> GTroy_: sudo gedit /etc/group find the admin group and add the username you want like group::user1,user2
[03:25] <CTho> sethk: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/search?string=getweakreference
[03:25] <GTroy_> I cannot sudo
[03:25] <sethk> CTho, well, first of all, case is significant in these symbols
[03:25] <pike_> GTroy_: no user account can?
[03:25] <CTho> sethk: but LXR is case insensitive ;)
[03:25] <GTroy_> wait..might be able to
[03:25] <sethk> CTho, secondly, that's just a search string for some documentation, has nothing relevant that I can see.
[03:25] <marcrosoft> cafuego, how the heck do you do that.. just type init=/bin/sh ??
[03:25] <CTho> sethk: well, an example call is /modules/libpref/src/nsPrefBranch.cpp, line 652 -- nsCOMPtr<nsIWeakReference> tmp = do_GetWeakReference(weakRefFactory);
[03:26] <ramus> pine_: same thing happened with single and rescue
[03:26] <CTho> sethk: and i guess it is defined at /xpcom/glue/nsWeakReference.cpp, line 125 -- nsSupportsWeakReference::GetWeakReference( nsIWeakReference** aInstancePtr )
[03:27] <sethk> CTho, nothing there can possibly be related to the compiler/linker version.
[03:27] <CTho> sethk: you'd think so,but you'd be wrong - there have been cases in the past where compilers break things
[03:28] <sethk> CTho, I didn't say the compiler can't break things.  I said the compiler can't cause that error.
[03:28] <sethk> CTho, and it cannot.
[03:28] <CTho> sethk: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353150
[03:28] <pike_> ramus: you have a livecd?
[03:28] <xipietotec> hey....how do i import icon themes? anyone?
[03:29] <sethk> CTho, that's completely unrelated to your error.
[03:29] <sethk> CTho, unless what you gave me isn't the real error
[03:29] <sethk> CTho, that's about a crash during compilation.
[03:30] <CTho> sethk: ... that's what I get.  undefined reference, ld returned 1, make quits
[03:30] <sethk> CTho, by the way, when you get that error, you can recompile in that part of the tree.  the error is random and rarely happens multiple times.
[03:30] <sethk> CTho, yes, I know, and that has nothing to do with the url you pointed me to.
[03:30] <sethk> CTho, well, not nothing, but it's indirect
[03:30] <CTho> sethk: how do you know?
[03:30] <sethk> CTho, because I've built it.
[03:31] <sethk> CTho, with 4.1.1
[03:31] <thor> is there a way to erase a cdrw in nautilus?
[03:31] <sethk> CTho, now, I built my own gcc, which is probably part of the reason I see different behavior.
[03:31] <MadCowBoy> xipietotec, Usually, download the icon package, and untar it into your .icons directory of your home folder (its a "hidden" folder, make sure your file browser enables show hidden files")
[03:31] <sethk> CTho, and I do have a couple of programs that gcc 4.1.0 clobbers, but not 4.1.1.  That doesn't make it impossible, but unlikely.
[03:31] <MadCowBoy> THats just one way though
[03:32] <CTho> sethk: i'm actually building with gcc-4.0
[03:32] <CTho> because that was the first thing I tried - using a less-bleeding-edge compiler
[03:32] <SiliconViper> So if root gets 'permission denied' when attempting to delete a file, the next course of action would be....?
[03:32] <ramus> i tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?
[03:33] <pike_> SiliconViper: what file? not on ntfs/windows partition right?
[03:33] <sethk> CTho, building with anything .0 is often more bleading edge
[03:33] <absenth> is there a way from the command line to restart the audio system without rebooting the computer?
[03:33] <CTho> 4.0.4
[03:33] <sethk> CTho, often someone brings out a new major version, and then the next few minor versions fix a lot of problems.
[03:33] <SiliconViper> pike_, of course not.
[03:33] <SiliconViper> Just a file in /var
[03:33] <xipietotec> MadCowBoy: thankya! =)
[03:33] <sethk> CTho, no doubt the 4.0.1, 4.0.2, etc., are fixes, but there are more fixes in the 4.# later versions
[03:34] <absenth> anyone?
[03:34] <MadCowBoy> np let me know how it goes, depending on the packaging, sometimes it can be imported directly through the theme manager...
[03:34] <MadCowBoy> depending
[03:34] <absenth> command line for restarting I assume Alsa on dapper
[03:34] <SiliconViper> absenth, which audio system?
[03:35] <SiliconViper>  /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:35] <SiliconViper> ?
[03:35] <absenth> that might do it, thanks.
[03:35] <sethk> CTho, on several occasions I've been able to get rid of similar problems by installing the 4.1.1 compiler, building it, installing it, then building it _again_, so that I build 4.1.1 _with_ 4.1.1.
[03:35] <sethk> CTho, rebuild binutils also with 4.1.1.
[03:35] <sethk> CTho, not guaranteed to work, by any means, probably at best a 50/50 shot, but worth a try.
[03:35] <GameboyHippo> Has anyone been successful in getting tdfx cards running in Edgy?  My Voodoo 3 3000 restarts X when Gnome loads.
[03:35] <CTho> i dont want to have to rebuild my compiler
[03:36] <eck0> hey how do i mount another hdd
[03:37] <eck0> when i try to mount mine it says unable to mount etc gonna see if i can do it another way
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> eck0, what command did you type ?
[03:37] <sethk> eck0, be root
[03:37] <eck0> i used the gui
[03:37] <sethk> eck0, so try with sudo
[03:37] <eck0> whats the command to mount a drive?
[03:37] <tempered> how do I change the ip address from DHCP to a static one?  it's a brand new Ubuntu install
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> sudo mount devicename mountdirectory
[03:38] <GameboyHippo> @tempered edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> unless its fat32 or ntfs then you got to have -t
[03:39] <tempered> thanks GameboyHippo, is there a special format to type stuff in?
[03:39] <eck0> ya uts btfs
[03:39] <GameboyHippo> Let me pull up mine you can use as a template... brb
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> btfs .... thats i can't help ... never heard of btfs .. only ntfs
[03:40] <Chippy> hello there.  I had the nvidia driver installed, but it wasn't working, and someone in here suggested I just use nvidia-glx.  However, I am still getting an error saying that the X module and the kernel module have different versions.  CAn anyone help me out?
[03:40] <eck0> ntfs
[03:40] <eck0> i miss typed
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> eck0, sudo mount -t ntfs devicename mountdirectory
[03:40] <Chippy> I ran the nvidia driver installer with --uninstall, so it shouldn't be a problem now...
[03:40] <eck0> how do i know the device name?
[03:40] <wickedpuppy> eck0, dmesg
[03:41] <Chippy> anyone?
[03:41] <ramus> i tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?
[03:41] <eck0> so sudo -t ntfs dmesg /dev/hdb
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> eck0, no no .... dmesg is a command
[03:41] <wickedpuppy> haaa :P
[03:42] <tempered> how do I use sudo to edit a file?
[03:42] <MadCowBoy> Chippy try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:42] <GameboyHippo> @Chippy, I had that problem too...  I don't think it uninstalls cleanly.
[03:42] <CTho> tempered: sudo editor filename, where editor is whatever editor you want to use
[03:42] <GameboyHippo> @tempered sudo gedit filename
[03:42] <MadCowBoy> tempered  : sudo gedit filename
[03:42] <Chippy> MadCowBoy: why xgl?  this has absolutly nothing to do with xgl
[03:42] <totall_6_7> tempered: sudo gedit filename
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> so you know its /dev/hdb ... can't be /dev/hdb though .. you are mounting a partition .. so its likely /dev/hdb1 or something like that
[03:42] <pike_> eck0: i normally type sudo fdisk -l  to find device and then you probably want to add an option like: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mount/point
[03:42] <MadCowBoy> more video cardy stuff
[03:43] <Chippy> GameboyHippo: how did you solve it?  PS: I had this problem even before I uninstalled and such, just running the nvidia driver install caused a version mismatch
[03:43] <eck0> :~$ sudo mount -t ntfs dmesg /dev/hdb
[03:43] <eck0> mount: special device dmesg does not exist
[03:43] <Chippy> hello there.  I had the nvidia driver installed, but it wasn't working, and someone in here suggested I just use nvidia-glx.  However, I am still getting an error saying that the X module and the kernel module have different versions.  CAn anyone help me out?
[03:43] <Chippy> I ran the nvidia driver installer with --uninstall, so it shouldn't be a problem now...
[03:43] <pike_> eck0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:43] <jared2012> does anyone know the kernel number for the latest dapperkernel?
[03:44] <Chippy> anyone?
[03:44] <CTho> sethk: well it happens reliably, every time i build, same error, same spot
[03:44] <sethk> CTho, with 4.1.1?
[03:44] <CTho> no, 4.0.4
[03:45] <Chippy> can anyone help me with getting my nvidia drivers working please?
[03:45] <sethk> CTho, ok, that's possible, since I haven't built with that version.
[03:45] <sethk> CTho, why do you need to build mozilla, again?  I forgot what you said.
[03:46] <CTho> valgrind
[03:46] <eck0> need to reset brb
[03:46] <sethk> CTho, ok.  has to be mozilla?  can't use any other browser?
[03:46] <Chippy> can anyone help me get the nvidia drivers working?
[03:46] <CTho> sethk: well, seeing as i'm a mozilla developer, i would certainly prefer to be building mozilla
[03:46] <tempered> how do I edit the interfaces file to have a static ip?
[03:46] <sethk> CTho, ok, that makes sense.  :)
[03:47] <sethk> CTho, I'll try a build tomorrow on my work box, see if I get what you are seeing.
[03:47] <brosnan> CTho: what are you having trouble with?
[03:47] <CTho> brosnan: hey
[03:47] <CTho> brosnan: building trunk SM in edgy
[03:47] <fluvvell> Chippy, have you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[03:47] <CTho> brosnan: ajschult's guess was bug 353150
[03:48] <brosnan> CTho: ah, ok
[03:48] <MadCowBoy> tempered: mine has tehese lines (among others)  address 192.168.0.105
[03:48] <MadCowBoy> netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:48] <MadCowBoy> gateway 192.168.0.1
[03:48] <nicole> hi
[03:48] <nicole> hi
[03:48] <nicole> hi
[03:48] <__mikem> !ops
[03:49] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:49] <CTho> brosnan: i'm assuming you're also brosnan on mosnet
[03:49] <CTho> moznet
[03:49] <tempered> MadCowBoy: in place of: auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp ?
[03:49] <__mikem> I guess that was a bit premature, but who ever responds, NIcole appeared to be spamming at first
[03:49] <Chippy> can anyone help me get my nvidia drivers working properly?
[03:49] <Mastastealth> wuts wrong chippy?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> Chippy, pardon me .. but have you read what fluvvell said above ?
[03:50] <nalioth> __mikem: ?
[03:50] <MadCowBoy> Chippy, see what fluvvell said
[03:50] <sixthz> hey, can anyone help me?
[03:50] <__mikem> nicole, nicole appeared to be spamming
[03:50] <Chippy> wickedpuppy: where?
[03:50] <sixthz> i kinda screwed up my ubuntu
[03:50] <__mikem> but she stopped when I shouted !ops
[03:50] <sixthz> with aiglx
[03:50] <sbcl3> i just installed via the graphical installer on a Live CD. It didn't ask me on which hard drive's MBR i wanted grub (it automatically put it on /dev/hdc0). How do I install these files to the MBR of /dev/sda0?
[03:50] <sixthz> or brayl
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> Chippy, looks up ...
[03:50] <brosnan> CTho: of course
[03:50] <__mikem> nalioth I mean
[03:50] <Chippy> wickedpuppy: you mean before I left and came back?  I'm on another box now
[03:50] <Mastastealth> !nvidia
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:51] <Chippy> ohh, I see
[03:51] <Chippy> missed that :)
[03:51] <xipietotec> is there some way to modify which buttons gnome uses to magnify?
[03:52] <sbcl3> i just installed via the graphical installer on a Live CD. It didn't ask me on which hard drive's MBR i wanted grub (it automatically put it on /dev/hdc0). How do I install these files to the MBR of /dev/sda0?
[03:52] <shriphani> guys vlc is a bit toooo bright
[03:53] <Chippy> okay, tried dpkg-reconfigure, no luck
[03:53] <Gemquist> I'm about ready to trash my xp box.... but I don't want to have to reinstall everything. Anyway to import some of my windows registry to ubuntu?
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[03:54] <Gemquist> :P Not necessarily the registry.
[03:54] <lotusleaf> Gemquist: I used a sledge hammer on my windows CD, no need for backups
[03:54] <sixthz> hello, i fucked up my other user with brayl(sp), so whenever it tries to load with gnome, gnome crashes, what can i do?
[03:54] <Gemquist> lmao
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> pardon me Gemquist i don't normally laugh at people asking for help
[03:54] <MadCowBoy> Whoa Gemquist let me know how that works out for you...
[03:54] <Gemquist> >:P
[03:55] <Chippy> mkay, so I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, but am getting a version mismatch between the nvidia kernel module and the x module.  any help?
[03:55] <lotusleaf> Gemquist: of course, you could also play jumprope on a WindowsCD
[03:55] <Chippy> tried dpkg-reconfigure, no luck
[03:55] <Gemquist> hmmm
[03:55] <DBO> sixthz, log in to safe mode in gnome and remove whatever you added to have it autostart
[03:55] <jshamash66> In ubuntu, is there an equivalent to the windows "net send" command?
[03:55] <Gemquist> I prefer pigeon.
[03:55] <sixthz> DBO, tried that, it doesnt load
[03:55] <sixthz> it crashes
[03:55] <Gemquist> Mark... Pull!
[03:55] <DBO> sixthz, xgl or aiglx?
[03:56] <sixthz> aiglx
[03:56] <lotusleaf> Gemquist: an angel just got its wings
[03:56] <sixthz> with brayl or something like that
[03:56] <DBO> sixthz, sudo mv /usr/bin/beryl /usr/bin/beryl.hackyhackhack
[03:56] <Chippy> any suggestions on getting my nvidia driver working?
[03:56] <__mikem> DBO theres a troll in ubuntu+1 and hes driving several people crazy
[03:56] <DBO> unfortunately I have no power there __mikem
[03:56] <xipietotec> is there some way to modify which buttons gnome uses to magnify?
[03:56] <Mastastealth> Chippy, you trying to use Beryl?
[03:57] <sixthz> DBO, now, to try and relog?
[03:57] <elriah> Hi all.  How would I schedule a task in ubuntu 6.06?  i.e., I have a script I want to run every hour.
[03:57] <DBO> sixthz, you got it
[03:57] <sixthz> thanks, brb
[03:57] <DBO> !cron
[03:57] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[03:57] <jshamash66> is there an equivalent to the windows "net send" command in Ubuntu?
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> elriah, cron
[03:57] <shriphani> umm anyone who has bightness issues with vlc ?
[03:57] <Chippy> Mastastealth: well, I COULD... if X would even START... which it isn't
[03:57] <shriphani> !vlc
[03:57] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:57] <bladedark> hola
[03:57] <elriah> Hey tnx.
[03:57] <bladedark> hola
[03:57] <Mastastealth> ok, did you install it via NVIDIA's script or apt-get?
[03:58] <Chippy> tried nvidia's script first
[03:58] <Chippy> that iddn't work
[03:58] <_nicolas> when running syslinux /dev/sda1, syslinux complains of being unable to find mcopy, what dpkg trick can i use to see which package contains mcopy ?
[03:58] <Chippy> then I tried apt get after running the script's uninstall
[03:58] <Chippy> neither works
[03:58] <MadCowBoy> Chippy dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work out for you? did you try?
[03:58] <Chippy> tried it
[03:58] <Chippy> no luck
[03:58] <sproingie> considering how typically windows messenger is disabled, i don't think there's a "net send" equivalent for windows anymore
[03:58] <Mastastealth> ok, the error ir kernel mismatch correct?
[03:58] <CTho> what package is the "human" theme in?
[03:59] <Chippy> Mastastealth: it's a version mismatch between the nvidia kernel module and X module
[03:59] <darnell_> err, what happen to limewire, it use to be good
[03:59] <Mastastealth> you're going to want to use amaranth's nvidia drivers if you want to use beryl.
[03:59] <sixthz> /q DBO
[03:59] <sixthz> DBO,
[03:59] <DBO> Chippy, you need to disable the nvidia kernel module in the linux restricted modules
[03:59] <darnell_> anyone know a better p2p program?
[03:59] <Mastastealth> you know how to use nano?
[03:59] <sixthz> didnt work
[03:59] <Chippy> DBO: how?
[03:59] <Chippy> Mastastealth: yes
[03:59] <shriphani> darnell_, gtk-gnutella
[03:59] <jshamash66> sproingie: ok, thanks. i was just curious
[03:59] <sixthz> DBO, its a red diamond that is loading that is doing the problem
[03:59] <mezoko> Hi
[03:59] <darnell_> is that in synaptic?
[03:59] <shriphani> darnell_, yes
[03:59] <DBO> sixthz, sudo mv /usr/bin/beryl-manager /usr/bin/beryl-manager.hackyhackhack
[03:59] <Amaranth> !nvidiabeta
[03:59] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[04:00] <Mastastealth> Chippy, are you using Edgy though>
[04:00] <darnell_> easy to use?
[04:00] <Mastastealth> ?
[04:00] <mezoko> I have a wireless card and ubuntu has loaded a module for it, but the module doesn't work and I wish to use ndiswrapper
[04:00] <darnell_> not problems with connection?
[04:00] <flodine> anyone use eterm here
[04:00] <fluvvell> Chippy, - when you reply, can you quote at least one person you are replying to, I missed your reply
[04:00] <mezoko> how can I remove the module ubuntu is loading?
[04:00] <Chippy> Mastastealth: nope
[04:00] <Chippy> fluvvell: yeah sorry, by the time I saw your comment I thought you would have forgotten
[04:01] <sixthz> DBO?
[04:01] <fluvvell> Chippy, no just on and off as work gets busy.  replys that quote leave the console flashing
[04:01] <Chippy> fluvvell: gotcha.  any suggestions?
[04:01] <DBO> sixthz?  you saw the command I gave you right?
[04:01] <sixthz> DBO, which one?
[04:01] <sixthz> to move the file?
[04:01] <fluvvell> Chippy, what exactly happened with the reconfigure? did your x resume ok?
[04:01] <DBO> sixthz, sudo mv /usr/bin/beryl-manager /usr/bin/beryl-manager.hackyhackhack
[04:02] <sixthz> second
[04:02] <Chippy> fluvvell: no, but I selected the nvidia driver again... nv works great
[04:02] <fluvvell> Chippy, ok so - solved? or further probs?
[04:02] <Chippy> fluvvell: no, nvdia driver doesn't work.
[04:02] <darnell_> gtk-gnutella is the same server as limewire
[04:02] <rune> I cant get my nvidia-glx-config up and running
[04:03] <slyphon> anyone had luck getting ubuntu-6.06 installed on a server with megaraid?
[04:03] <mezoko> How can I backlist a module?
[04:03] <fluvvell> Chippy, ok so what does  dpkg -l |grep nvidia      give you ?
[04:03] <sixthz> DBO, no go im afraid
[04:03] <sixthz> still loads it
[04:03] <macd> slyphon, sure on Dell's
[04:03] <DBO> amazing...
[04:03] <slyphon> macd: did you have to do anything special?
[04:03] <Mastastealth> Chippy, have you tried uninstalling the drivers via the script (sudo ./nvidia-installer --uninstall) and then removing any apt-get drivers (apt-get remove nvidia*)
[04:04] <macd> insert cd press enter watch install ;P
[04:04] <DBO> sixthz, run this command `which beryl-manager`
[04:04] <slyphon> macd: driver disks or whatnot?
[04:04] <DBO> (no backticks)
[04:04] <slyphon> macd: ah, ok
[04:04] <sixthz> /usr/bin/beryl-manager
[04:04] <rune> when I run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, I get the following error:
[04:04] <Mastastealth> that should clear it all out, and then you can "apt-get install nvidia-gx" and it should get all the latest stuff again
[04:04] <macd> whats the specific controller?
[04:04] <Chippy> fluvvell: nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings
[04:04] <Chippy> Mastastealth: I did the uninstall, but not the remove nvidia
[04:04] <mrbond82> Anyone know why the psc 2610 isn't in the add a printer list for ubunty edgy?
[04:04] <ramus> i tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?
[04:04] <slyphon> SAS 1068-1R LSI-Logic
[04:04] <slyphon> or
[04:04] <slyphon> hp 8 port sas/sata controller
[04:05] <Chippy> Mastastealth: I'm guessing I should?
[04:05] <rune> Error: your X configuration has been altered
[04:05] <Mastastealth> its worth a try
[04:05] <CTho> what package is the "human" theme in?
[04:05] <Chippy> Mastastealth: what packages did you mean then? nvidia*?
[04:05] <DBO> sixthz, you arent moving the executables like I told you...
[04:06] <macd> slyphon, ahh thats a bit different chipset than I use, most of the megaraids are for scsi use, or  82801CA
[04:06] <sixthz> DBO,
[04:06] <slyphon> ah
[04:06] <slyphon> dammit
[04:06] <sixthz> i did exactly what you wrote me to do
[04:06] <fluvvell> Chippy, brb -
[04:06] <Mastastealth> nvidia* should select nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common
[04:06] <DBO> sixthz, did you get an error?
[04:06] <sixthz> i am new to ubuntu
[04:06] <sixthz> nope
[04:06] <Chippy> Mastastealth: I know, should I uninstall those?
[04:06] <Mastastealth> yea
[04:06] <slyphon> macd: we have a sysadmin that doesn't know linux from belly-button-lint, and his taste in servers is reprehensible
[04:06] <Chippy> fluvvell: mkay, thanks
[04:06] <macd> slyphon, typical ;)
[04:07] <smotang> Hey, in the normal UBuntu install where abouts in the filesystem is Gimp located?
[04:07] <Chippy> Mastastealth: done
[04:07] <macd> when they start calling themselves system architects they start buying better equipment ;)
[04:07] <Fenix-Dark> hi
[04:07] <Chippy> Mastastealth: now what should I install to get nvidia running?
[04:07] <Mastastealth> ok, now just try reinstalling nvidia-glx
[04:07] <slyphon> macd: :D
[04:07] <Mastastealth> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:07] <DBO> sixthz, sudo dpkg -r --force-depends beryl-manager
[04:07] <slyphon> macd: yeah, we have a *scary* competent guy that's started working now, and he's buying Suns
[04:07] <Fenix-Dark> i wanna get kde on ubuntoo, how would i do that?
[04:07] <mrbond82> fenix-dark -- check kubuntu
[04:07] <slyphon> macd: he's 2600's sysadmin
[04:07] <macd> slyphon, nice to see he knows where its at
[04:08] <sixthz> DBO, that didnt gave me any output, should it?
[04:08] <Chippy> Mastastealth: mkay installing
[04:08] <slyphon> macd: indeed :)
[04:08] <Fenix-Dark> mrbond82, so i need to delete ubuntu since i want kde?
[04:08] <slyphon> macd: he kicks ass
[04:08] <DBO> sixthz, what happens if you sudo -s ?
[04:08] <sixthz> nothing
[04:08] <DBO> right...
[04:08] <DBO> you arent on an admin account
[04:08] <dek> adjusting brightness/constrast in Kaffeine doesn't work. Any idea how to fix it?
[04:08] <macd> Im partial to dell for intel based servers as they support linux, but the new sun cool threads are very nice.
[04:09] <slyphon> macd: yeah, we're looking to use coolthreads as soon as they release the hypervisor
[04:09] <DBO> sixthz, ok switch to ctrl alt f1 (henceforth called tty1) and log in as your normal (broken) user
[04:09] <DBO> sixthz, you can use ctrl alt f7 to get back into X
[04:09] <macd> slyphon, indeed xen on those = the rox
[04:09] <sixthz> DBO, i cant, whenever i log it, it automaticlly goes to gnome
[04:09] <slyphon> macd: as we're a linux shop (currently centos :P) but want to transition to something less puke-inducing
[04:09] <macd> hahah!
[04:09] <slyphon> macd: yeah, xen3 is teh awes0em
[04:09] <DBO> sixthz, you'll see what I mean after pressing ctrl alt f1
[04:09] <DBO> sixthz, it wont go to gnome
[04:10] <slyphon> macd: centos is so fucking retarded, it's like, indescribable
[04:10] <macd> weve moved to ubuntu for the most part, but still use a lot of scientific linux and rhes
[04:10] <DBO> slyphon, watch the swearing please
[04:10] <slyphon> DBO: sorry
[04:10] <Chippy> Mastastealth: installed, testing
[04:10] <macd> I wish someone would change the livecd irc user to something other than ubuntu.
[04:11] <slyphon> macd: it's taken so long but we're finally gonna transition to ubuntu
[04:11] <Chippy> Mastastealth: same thing :(  kernel module has version 1.0-7174, X module has 1.0-8762
[04:11] <slyphon> mainly because of the sun guarantee
[04:11] <macd> yep
[04:11] <Mastastealth> here Chippy, check out this page: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper#HOW_TO_UNINSTALL_THE_DRIVER_.28FROM_METHOD_2.29
[04:12] <Chippy> Mastastealth: will try that, thanks
[04:12] <Mastastealth> i have to go, good luck on that. I know I've had it plenty of times, but its relatively simple to fix...once you figure it out :P
[04:13] <Chippy> fluvvell: back yet?
[04:15] <fluvvell> Chippy, sorry working with a client for now, will have to come back to you later.
[04:15] <Chippy> fluvvell: no worries, good luck have fun
[04:15] <fluvvell> Chippy, thx
[04:15] <mezoko> Hi
[04:15] <Chippy> anyone else willing to help me get my nvidia drivers working?
[04:15] <mezoko> How do you black list a module in ubuntu?
[04:16] <andy> Hi
[04:16] <tempered> how do I reboot the network once I've edited the interfaces file?
[04:16] <noxxle> gnome network manager no longer recognizes my wireless card. nor does wpa gui
[04:16] <noxxle> this happened after a failed wireless connect
[04:17] <MadCowBoy> tempered, if your using net-work-manager, just deactivate activate
[04:17] <Bagoor> how can I mount everything which is in fstab ?
[04:17] <smotang> When configuring a package for making how do you edit the pgk_config_path variable?
[04:17] <mezoko> How do I BlackList a Module?!
[04:17] <noxxle> i installed that thing from automatix
[04:17] <andy> How do i get a .wmv to play on my ubuntu?
[04:17] <MadCowBoy> otherwise, test your changes by restarting gnome (swat I would do)
[04:17] <noxxle> i did
[04:18] <xipietotec> noxxle: try wlassistant or learn how to use iwconfig and dhclient =)
[04:18] <phargle> andy: which porn site?
[04:18] <andy> not a porn site
[04:18] <phargle> suuuure
[04:18] <phargle> :p
[04:18] <mezoko> woudl someone tell me how to blacklist a module on ubuntu!
[04:18] <hackel_> Anyone familiar with pptp?  I'm trying to connect to a windows network, and keep getting: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests.  Does this just mean my server is down?
[04:18] <tempered> MadCowBoy: is there a shell command to do it?
[04:18] <Fenix-Dark> ...so the only way to get to use kde is to delete ubuntu and install kubunto?
[04:18] <totall_6_7> andy: you can try vlc
[04:19] <Chippy> mezoko: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common change DISABLED_MODULES to include yours
[04:19] <lotusleaf> mezoko: search forums for ipv6 blacklist for an idea
[04:19] <andy> I have made some movies at school using movie maker but i can't view them using firefox
[04:19] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: I have both kubuntu and ubuntu installed on my computer
[04:19] <Bagoor> andy, install vlc
[04:19] <mezoko> Chippy, that doesn't seem to work
[04:19] <cliffd> I saw somewhere that 6.10 is out... is that true?
[04:19] <Chippy> mezoko: dang, no ideas then
[04:19] <andy> where can I gel that
[04:19] <MadCowBoy> cliff, just a release candidate
[04:19] <andy> get
[04:19] <lotusleaf> cliffd: 26th is the release day for Edgy, /join #ubuntu+1
[04:19] <xipietotec> cliffd: in 3 days its out
[04:19] <cliffd> Sorry all, i just saw the RC post
[04:19] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, so you can't have gnome and kde on the same ubuntu?
[04:19] <totall_6_7> andy do you know synaptic
[04:20] <andy> I am very new at this I know it a little
[04:20] <xipietotec> the release candidate (read: Final release minus some language packs) is out now
[04:20] <bun-bun> !kde
[04:20] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:20] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: Yes you can, kubuntu is KDE for ubuntu, you can't run them at the same time
[04:20] <cliffd> can I do an inplace upgrade and get 6.10 from 6.06 ?
[04:21] <mezoko> ok how do I add ndiswrapper to startup
[04:21] <totall_6_7> its in synaptic or someone here can show you the command to apt-get it (what ever the commannd is)
[04:21] <mezoko> Chippy, I typed int he wrong module :P
[04:21] <Chippy> mezoko: hehe :)
[04:21] <cliffd> Fenix-Dark: you can have kde and gnome and xcfre on a single install, just add them from apt.
[04:21] <lotusleaf> Fenix-Dark: and a whole bunch of other window managers, and desktop environments too.. like blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, xfce, enlightenment, and many more
[04:21] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, then why do you have ubuntu and kubuntu installed if you can have them both on 1 ubuntu installation
[04:21] <xipietotec> cliffd: you can configure synaptic to do a dist-upgrade yes.
[04:21] <cliffd> xipietotec: thanks.
[04:21] <cliffd> xipietotec: is that as "legit" as a fresh install?
[04:21] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: Kubuntu is KDE, ubuntu is Gnome.
[04:21] <__mikem> I recomend xfce, kde, or for you minimalist types, fluxbox
[04:21] <sixthz> DBO, thanks alot
[04:22] <DBO> sixthz, got it fixed?
[04:22] <sixthz> DBO, any idea how to fix it tho?
[04:22] <sixthz> i mean to make the brayl to work
[04:22] <sixthz> beryl *
[04:22] <DBO> sixthz, I need to know more about your system
[04:22] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: They're not 2 separate operating systems, their the same core operating system with the gnome or kde suite of applications and windows management setup installed.
[04:22] <sixthz> i want that cool cube effect :)
[04:22] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, but lotusleaf said you can have blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, xfce, enlightenment and others on one ubuntu
[04:22] <xipietotec> if you just want the programs from KDE you can install them manually.
[04:22] <DBO> sixthz, and have you managed to get back into your normal account?
[04:22] <sixthz> DBO, mind if ill PM you the info?
[04:23] <DBO> sixthz, go ahead =)
[04:23] <sixthz> i am on it now
[04:23] <_goofy_> in the near future i plan to create a file server i was wondering what would be the best distro to do such without limiting to the ubuntu family
[04:23] <xipietotec> Fenix: Yes, it's possible, the kde for ubuntu is kubuntu
[04:23] <xipietotec> I'm using beryl right now.
[04:23] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, i know that they're 2 different graphical thingies, but you're really confusing me now
[04:23] <marc_> OK....wirless...PCI cards..........on Drapper....I'm having trouble...
[04:23] <andy> Can someone explain to me the synaptic package manager to me?
[04:24] <conreyt> andy: sure.
[04:24] <marc_> anyone who can help...?
[04:24] <bun-bun> Fenix-Dark# ubuntu and kubuntu is the same OS.  the distinction is ubuntu defaults to gnome and kubuntu defaults to kde
[04:24] <effie_jayx> andy: :) beautifull to see
[04:24] <xipietotec> Fenix: All kde, fluxbox,etc. are is a windows manager, and often application suites, you can install as many as you want, and it doesn't effect the files of your operating system
[04:24] <hikenboot> can anyone point me to where I can get testing apt sources for ubuntu 6.10?
[04:24] <bun-bun> Fenix-Dark# you can install either one and make changes to it later
[04:24] <conreyt> !synaptic > andy
[04:24] <effie_jayx> marc_ shoot away and I'll see ...
[04:24] <xipietotec> it's the same OS, just with different windows managers, some will add new programs though.
[04:24] <Arrick> guys about a year or so ago, someone mentioned a court case about a guy refusing the MS eula on a box, and installing Linux instead, and getting his money for the WIndows license back, anybody got any idea for the link to that information?
[04:24] <lotusleaf> hikenboot: #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, ok, then why do YOU have kubuntu and ubuntu installed if you can use both on one installation?
[04:25] <andy> What does it do?
[04:25] <conreyt> Arrick: good luck I tried it as well.....
[04:25] <ramus> i tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?
[04:25] <effie_jayx> andy: it installs software that is intended to run well on your OS...
[04:25] <marc_> effie.....seems like i can install the Windows version of my cards drivers...but it still doesn't recognize the hardware....what can I do?
[04:25] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: Kubuntu and ubuntu are not separate OS's, I installed ubuntu (which is gnome) and then typed sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <Arrick> conreyt, I just want the link
[04:25] <xipietotec> and it installed KDE =)
[04:25] <effie_jayx> andy: :)
[04:26] <andy> Thanks
[04:26] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, ok, but before you said you dual boot kubuntu and ubuntu
[04:26] <xipietotec> They're not set up as separate partitions
[04:26] <DBO> sixthz, if you are PMing me im not getting it, you need to register with nickserv or just meet me in #DBO
[04:26] <Chippy> fluvvell: just an FYI that I got it working, no idea how
[04:26] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: no, I never said I dual boot. =)
[04:26] <effie_jayx> marc_ what are you tryining to install?
[04:26] <xipietotec> I just switch sessions between kde and gnome
[04:26] <marc_> wireless card..PCI
[04:27] <xipietotec> I said I installed both kubuntu and ubuntu on the same pc. =)
[04:27] <effie_jayx> marc_... barnd?
[04:27] <effie_jayx> brand?
[04:27] <tempered> how do I restart the network now that I've made changes to "interfaces" file?  ( from shell )
[04:27] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, u said "<xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: I have both kubuntu and ubuntu installed on my computer"  i thought ubuntu and kubuntu are 2 separate operating systems, one with kde and one with gnome?  how can you run two separate operating systems at once?
[04:27] <marc_> D-link
[04:27] <xipietotec> not as separate partitions though.
[04:27] <effie_jayx> ok
[04:27] <fluvvell> Chippy, great
[04:27] <WiseOdd> hi all. I need some help with my firewall.... dunno how to configure it decently...
[04:27] <effie_jayx> on la laptop?
[04:27] <bun-bun> tempered# sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[04:27] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: They're not separate operating systems.
[04:27] <marc_> nope desktop
[04:27] <tempered> thank you
[04:27] <vilefridg> Hello.  I have a quick question.  When the time comes to upgrade from dapper to edgy, what would be the effects of the distro upgrade?  Will I have to reconfigure RAID, software applications, lose settings, wireless config, etc??  Or will it go pretty smooth?
[04:27] <Fenix-Dark> xipietotec, you're confusing the hell out of me, i'm gonna skip *buntu and install slackware
[04:28] <BoomStYx> vilefridg: It will go about as smooth as silk ;)
[04:28] <effie_jayx> ok
[04:28] <lotusleaf> Fenix-Dark: then you'll want to join that channel then, bye
[04:28] <conreyt> vilefridg: advertised as smooth as silk ;)
[04:28] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: all kubuntu means is (k+ubuntu) xubuntu (xcfe+ubuntu)
[04:28] <WiseOdd> any1 know anything about firewalls? I need some help....!
[04:28] <xipietotec> they're not separate operating systems
[04:28] <effie_jayx> marc_:  have you ecked the forums?
[04:29] <marc_> yes....many.....
[04:29] <MadCowBoy> Whats up WiseOdd ?
[04:29] <lotusleaf> WiseOdd: ask your questions! :) and also check #security
[04:29] <martalli> Fenix-Dark: Al the *buntus are built on the same OS. YOu could look at them, as specialized install disks that all start with eparate dektop evironments
[04:29] <vilefridg> BoomStYx, conreyt:  That's good to hear :)  Still expected for October?
[04:29] <martalli> apt-get a few packsges, and you can add another desktop
[04:29] <Nameeater> If I have installed a new nvidia gfx card to replace an old one, do I need to run anything now to config it?
[04:29] <effie_jayx> marc_:  gime me the specs and I'll see what I can find... D-link tends to be pretty good on linux
[04:29] <andy> How do i make vlc be the default movie player in firefox?
[04:29] <conreyt> vilefridg: dunno, I'd check the site....
[04:30] <marc_> effie - specs for the D-link card..?
[04:30] <WiseOdd> madcowboy: dunno how to configure my firewall properly... im running p2p, but i always seem to totally block everything instead of letting p2p apps go thru...
[04:30] <BoomStYx> vilefridg: Yeah, its on the 30th I believe, see, its called 6.10 because 6 as in 06 the year, and 10 as in October, thats how the versioning works
[04:30] <bun-bun> Fenix-Dark# if you can't figure out the nuances of having one underlying os with multiple window managers despite everyone who has given you info, i'm not sure slackware would even be the right choice for you
[04:30] <xipietotec> andy: go to a video file, click properties and configure what it opens with by default
[04:30] <vilefridg> BoomStYx, conreyt: thanks :)
[04:30] <effie_jayx> marc_:  uhum
[04:30] <tempered> there is nothing in the /etc/init.d/network besides more directories how do I restart the network ?
[04:31] <MadCowBoy> are you using a router?
[04:31] <marc_> effie - D-link DWL -G510
[04:31] <Fenix-Dark> bun-bun, i'll give it a shot, if i dont like it, i'll try something else
[04:31] <tempered> MadCowBoy: me?
[04:31] <bun-bun> tempered# try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:31] <effie_jayx> marc_:  I'm at it
[04:31] <xipietotec> Fenix-Dark: Errr.....ubuntu is much much easier to install and configure than slackware
[04:31] <MadCowBoy> no sorry tempered that was for WiseOdd
[04:31] <WiseOdd> madcowboy: yup, with nat... but until i tried to configure "firestarter" everything was fine... now nothing works..
[04:31] <xipietotec> if you find ubuntu confusing....you will be lost in slackware
[04:31] <marc_> I've downloaded the RT61 - Firmware...but haven't figured out how to Compile it yet.
[04:32] <tempered> bun-bun: that worked, but I didn't see a script there when I looked :/
[04:32] <bun-bun> Fenix-Dark# best of luck to you in ##slackware.  may i suggest you ask the type of questions you asked here in the same way you asked here in ##slackware
[04:32] <MadCowBoy> Btw tempered how are you making out?
[04:32] <tempered> It restrated now with a static IP, thank you guys
[04:32] <johny5> Can anyone help me with OpenOffice Writer?  Whenever I open up a document with a table that is more than half a page long, it only shows the last portion of the table and I can't view the rest of it.
[04:32] <Fenix-Dark> bun-bun, sure
[04:32] <andy> What if the movie is embedded on the webpage. how canI get it to play with vlc?
[04:32] <bun-bun> tempered# some distros it's /etc/init.d/network  i just noticed it's called "networking" in ubuntu
[04:32] <WiseOdd> is there any firewall apps which would be more similar to windows based firewalls? i have no problem using them... :)
[04:32] <MadCowBoy> WiseOdd, I'm not familiar with firestarter, what is it?
[04:33] <WiseOdd> firewall in basic package in ubuntu...
[04:33] <Fenix-Dark> bun-bun, anyways, i thought linux was linux, how could one linux be harder than another?
[04:33] <effie_jayx> marc_:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270046&highlight=D-link+DWL+-G510
[04:33] <effie_jayx> marc_:   check it out... and see
[04:33] <marc_> I will give it a go....
[04:33] <WiseOdd> im open to suggestions for other firewalls....
[04:33] <rbil> WiseOdd, tell me what you need a firewall for
[04:34] <xipietotec> bun-bun: LoL!
[04:34] <MadCowBoy> WiseOdd, I find it just as easy to use a router based firewall, but by using a software based on as well, can create diffuculties in you configuration and what not, usually choose one and go with that,
[04:34] <effie_jayx> marc_:   let me know
[04:34] <marc_> Effie...I will..
[04:34] <WiseOdd> well.. to stop the bad guys getting into my system i suppose... :)
[04:34] <lotusleaf> WiseOdd: you're not going to find an application based software firewall like Zone Alarm any time soon for Linux. Try Guarddog or Firestarter, both are simple and easy.
[04:34] <rbil> you behind a NAS router?
[04:34] <xipietotec> Fenix: Linux is a kernel, distros are built around that kernel for different purposes, some are built to be easy to use
[04:34] <effie_jayx> marc_:   the guy in that post didn't complain so I'm guessing it went well
[04:35] <xipietotec> some are built for maximum customization, or for specific applications where ease of use (to an average user) is not an issue
[04:35] <xipietotec> slackware is one of those...
[04:35] <WiseOdd> madcowboy: ok. suppose ur right. 1 should be enough. im just not so comfy with the hardware base firewalls...
[04:35] <rbil> Linux IS a firewall, you decide what services you're going to run and hence what ports are open. Don't run services accessable from the outside and you won't have ports open. simple as that.
[04:36] <Celeste> hi!
[04:36] <jrsims> how do I install new mouse cursors?
[04:36] <Celeste> I need an native speaker, - Please!
[04:36] <jrsims> in gnome?
[04:36] <WiseOdd> rbil: what about multiport  applications like most p2p programs?
[04:36] <Celeste> (native to english)
[04:36] <ramus> i tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?
[04:36] <bun-bun> Celeste# yes?
[04:36] <jbmigel> fbil what ports are open in ubuntu by default?
[04:36] <Celeste> bun-bun, Please help me with a sentence:
[04:36] <Flannel> jbmigel: none
[04:36] <lotusleaf> rbil: but it's never that simple, you have to forecast the future, a lot of people install software from unofficial repositories, are all of those packages secure? no firewall means any bad application installed which wants to phone home can and will
[04:37] <johny5> Anyone know where I might be able to find an OpenOffice help channel?
[04:37] <jbmigel> Flannel I cant ssh to an ubuntu box out of the box?
[04:37] <Flannel> jbmigel: correct
[04:37] <bun-bun> Celeste# /join #ubuntu-offtopic, i will be happy to help you there
[04:37] <MadCowBoy> its not too diffcult, if you've already connecting to thee internet through a router, you should look at the manual for that router if you don't have that handy, search the model number on google
[04:37] <jbmigel> Flannel cool
[04:37] <rbil> lotusleaf, well if you're going to pickup whatever crap is available for download, maybe you have a point?
[04:37] <Flannel> johny5: #OpenOffice
[04:38] <WiseOdd> tbil: im a linux n00b. how would i know the difference between good and bad applications for linux?
[04:38] <xipietotec> I think ubuntu should consider making dazuko a permanent part of the distro (as a kernel module) and incorporating a default installed firewall
[04:38] <marc_> Effie...looks familiar...I tried the RT61 - firmware yesterday, but I do see on this post you gave me that it's not certain on how to compile this package yet on a AMD64...which I am working on.
[04:38] <WiseOdd> rbil: thats why i thought a firewall would be a good idea...
[04:38] <Flannel> xipietotec: the kernel is a 'default installed firewall'
[04:38] <rbil> lotusleaf, but I don't see how a firewall is going to do anything to prevent that
[04:38] <effie_jayx> marc_:  mm ok
[04:38] <Flannel> !firestarter
[04:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:38] <effie_jayx> marc_:  let me see what else I can find
[04:38] <jrsims> anyone know how to install new mouse cursors?
[04:38] <rbil> WiseOdd, you're still stuck in windowisms, imho
[04:39] <xipietotec> Flannel: Okay, then dazuko then. =)
[04:39] <WiseOdd> madcowboy: yeah, i think i will do that...
[04:39] <lotusleaf> rbil: it happens
[04:39] <marc_> Effie..me looking too....
[04:39] <MadCowBoy> Good luck, its good to learn as well,
[04:39] <rbil> lotusleaf, I'm sure all kinds of things happen, I've just never come across anyone yet with that prob.
[04:39] <johny5> Flannel, wow, I never would have thought of that one.
[04:39] <WiseOdd> rbil: as i said, i just switched to linux... im figuring out things as they come, but im new to linux....
[04:39] <johny5> Flannel, Thanks!
[04:39] <WiseOdd> rbil: so yeah...
[04:39] <lotusleaf> rbil: when you repair boxes for several years you learn a lot =)
[04:39] <Flannel> xipietotec: what's wrong with firestarter?
[04:40] <rbil> WiseOdd, it wasn't a put down, I assure you.
[04:40] <Gumby> does anyone know if it is true that you have to first add a user to the system before you can add them as a samba user?
[04:40] <WiseOdd> madcowboy: thx m8
[04:40] <[GuS] > Hi guys, i have a question... i have latest Kubuntu Edgy RC, and after the last upgrade, i have this problem in keyboard layout conf.: http://www.gdnet.com.ar/downloads/pub/kubuntu/Kubuntu-Edgy-RC.png
[04:40] <lotusleaf> [GuS] : #ubuntu+1 for Edgy
[04:40] <xipietotec> Flannel: Dazuko is anti-virus, and damned good
[04:40] <[GuS] > sorry..
[04:40] <lotusleaf> [GuS] : no problem =)
[04:40] <rbil> lotusleaf, you'll have to provide me with some realworld example, just haven't seen it and I'm skeptical
[04:40] <Flannel> xipietotec: er... that's not what it's website says
[04:40] <[GuS] > i've forgot that...
[04:40] <CTho> how do i add more resolutions?
[04:41] <lotusleaf> rbil: I'm not a lawyer, I don't have to convince a jury =)
[04:41] <Flannel> xipietotec: er, maybe it is.  Although it isn't immediately apparent.
[04:41] <xipietotec> Flannel: It allows for on-access virus scanning
[04:41] <CTho> dpkg --reconfigure [somePackage]  ?
[04:41] <rbil> lotusleaf, well you made the ascertion that there is such a danger. never mind, to each his own.
[04:41] <xipietotec> but the problem is, since it's a kernel module, unless it's included in the distro it requires custom compiling a kernel...each and every time you upgrade as well
[04:41] <lotusleaf> rbil: it's not an ascertation, it's a fact :)
[04:42] <xipietotec> which is just bollocks..
[04:42] <WiseOdd> rbil: i didnt really take it to be, but this is pretty hard for a newbie... There ARE many ways you have to adjust your thinking too...
[04:42] <midtex> hello
[04:42] <effie_jayx> marc_:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200558&highlight=D-link+DWL+-G510
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> How is it possible to be denied permission when root?
[04:42] <bun-bun> CTho# you could try dpkg --reconfigure xorg
[04:42] <CTho> thx
[04:42] <bun-bun> CTho# or you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand
[04:42] <rbil> lotusleaf, well I asked for an example of a software program for Linux that does what you suggested. What is it?
[04:42] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: something mounted read only, for instance
[04:42] <andy> On VLC, I'm hearing the video but can't see it. What can I do?
[04:42] <effie_jayx> marc_:  he claims to have installed it out of the box
[04:42] <ramus> i tried upgrading to edgy eft, but it gave me an error somewhere in the middle. after restarting, the screen just goes to a blinking underscore after showing "mounting root file system"...booting into single and rescue does the same thing. what should i do?
[04:42] <lotusleaf> rbil: /join #security as this is going offtopic =) or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <WiseOdd> rbil: but nevertheless, i like what i see, eventho i dont always understand whuts wut..
[04:43] <MadCowBoy> andy are you using beryl?
[04:43] <Flannel> ramus: try #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[04:43] <andy> Not sure
[04:43] <ramus> k
[04:43] <MadCowBoy> Oh, OK,
[04:43] <marc_> effie...I'm gonna try it again...i just downloaded his ralink drivers cvs20 and I now need to reboot.....I wiil be right back
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: I got an error back just on one package in an update - "dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute old-pre-removal script: Permission denied"
[04:43] <midtex> hey, I need some help with my boot loader
[04:43] <rbil> WiseOdd, just that I see so many who have just entered the Linux world from windows, looking for anti-spam, anti-virus, defragging tools, etc. :-)
[04:44] <MadCowBoy> andy, do any other players work for you?
[04:44] <andy> How would i know if i am using beryl?
[04:44] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: no idea, dpkg might have some sort of locking thing, or whatnot
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: In package gzip, Dapper on brand new server install
[04:44] <Flannel> andy: if you don't know, you're almost certainly not ;)
[04:44] <jbmigel> is it possible to set the powernowd steps? I think it kicks in a little early
[04:44] <MadCowBoy> right Flannel,
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Maybe a bug in the gzip build?
[04:44] <ainvar> net.org
[04:45] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: possible, but unlikely.  You've added the GPG keys for your repository?
[04:45] <andy> Sorry for being new at this. It's just my second day working with ubuntu.
[04:45] <shriphani> anyone who can help with vlc
[04:45] <WiseOdd> rbil: u only get smarter by asking questions... so u have to appear stupid once in a while, if u want to learn :)
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: They should be added by default during the installation.
[04:45] <jbmigel> andy welcome to linux! hope you enjoy your stay!!
[04:45] <andy> Totem says i don't have a decoder installed.
[04:45] <tempered> so now I seem to have Ubuntu installed..  is there a command to get the latest updates?
[04:45] <chad_> hi
[04:45] <rbil> WiseOdd, I'm always learning, that is why I look so stupid :-)
[04:45] <MadCowBoy> andy: I had a hard time viewing WMV movies in vlc, I think I just use mplayer to view wmv's thats what your trying to do right?
[04:45] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: Can't hurt to check/readd them
[04:45] <chad_> are we allowed to have multiple conversations going at once?
[04:45] <shriphani> andy, what are you tying to play ?
[04:46] <andy> I am. I'm trying to convince my school district to go this route for its district computers
[04:46] <WiseOdd> :))
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Can I pin ubuntu-minimal back to the original off the 6.06.1 disk?
[04:46] <jbmigel> chad_ I would answer you but im already talking to someone else
[04:46] <Flannel> tempered: in the GUI, update manager will tell you.  Or you can load synaptic package manager and reload/mark upgrades/apply, or you can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:46] <Flannel> chad_: yes, you can.
[04:46] <chad_> ok cool - thanks anyway. maybe someone else can
[04:46] <shriphani> Flannel, any idea why vlc goes too bright ?
[04:46] <tempered> Flannel: I have no gui installed
[04:47] <Flannel> shriphani: I have no GUI, so... I have no idea
[04:47] <lostboyz> hi i was wondering what is the package that sends a webcam
[04:47] <lostboyz> once it is connected and working
[04:47] <Flannel> tempered: then the sudo apt-get update/upgrade command
[04:47] <tempered> ahh, I see the apt-get stuff now
[04:47] <lostboyz> i am not able to send my webcam only to view it on my computer
[04:47] <andy> It is a video made using movie maker. It was downloaded of my website. VLC palys the audio but no video. Totem Movie playerr says I don't have a decoder installed.
[04:47] <shriphani> Flannel, cool
[04:47] <jbmigel> chad_ I was kidding man, of course you can talk to as many people as you can keep straight in your head..
[04:47] <andy> file extension .wmv
[04:47] <shriphani> andy, i am sure it is wmv3
[04:48] <shriphani> i got same problems here
[04:48] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: pin it back?  I'm not sure, especially ifyou used the liveCD, the alternate CD you could concievably reinstall that from apt-cdrom
[04:48] <MEGALODON> I need help setting up my Matrox G400 dual head view
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: I used the server CD, so no live.
[04:48] <chad_> I'll just ask: I've installed Ubuntu Dapper, and every so often after a couple weeks of having it installed my drive label for my fat32 partition gets all garbled. The text on the icon is screwed up, and so is the text beside the drive in Nautilus. right now it says "ion>   </p" and it should say "hda4".
[04:48] <andy> Maybe. When I look at the file the extension just has .wmv on it
[04:48] <shriphani> Flannel, how did you kick out you DE. i though apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop removed just a meta package
[04:48] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: ah, then yes... I suppose it would be.  make sure the server CD is a repository (might help to remove the web ones)
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Wouldn't it not change anything b/c the version would be lower than installed though?  I know there's some way to do this, but I think it's tedious.
[04:49] <shriphani> andy, play it from console
[04:49] <lostboyz> can someone help me with an spca5xx driver and a logitech webcam
[04:49] <andy> how do I do that
[04:49] <shriphani> umm open a terminal
[04:49] <rbil> MEGALODON, what help do you need?
[04:49] <MEGALODON> Can someone help me setup my Matrox G400 Dual view
[04:49] <jbmigel> chad_ thats kinda weird. how do you fix it?
[04:49] <andy> type what in the terminal?
[04:50] <shriphani> umm andy navigate to the dir. where you got this file
[04:50] <MEGALODON> rbil: I have one monitor enabled.. I can't seem to make the second monitor enabled
[04:50] <Flannel> shriphani: I just never installed it to begin with.  You could, if you were looking to, remove some low level X lib, and therefore all of the things that depend on it.
[04:50] <chad_> not sure. I googled around but haven't found anything. anybody know?
[04:50] <shriphani> then vlc file.wmv
[04:50] <chad_> sorry that was to _jbmigel_
[04:50] <rbil> MEGALODON, ok, hold on I'm using same card and using dual head now.
[04:50] <jbmigel> chad_ are you sure you didnt accidentally edit the icon label?
[04:50] <MEGALODON> rbit .. Sweet :D
[04:51] <chad_> _jbmigel_ yep. it won't let me edit it anywhere
[04:51] <rbil> MEGALODON, are u registered so I can pm you?
[04:51] <Gumby> does anyone here know if it is possible to have files created as a specific gid when creating files in a smb mounted directory?
[04:51] <jbmigel> chad_ can you look at your /etc/fstab and see if it is labelled properly there
[04:52] <MEGALODON> rbil I don't think so.. this is my first time here
[04:52] <[GuS] > someone here have Kubuntu edgy?
[04:52] <chad_> _jbmigel_ yep, it's labeled as /dev/hda4
[04:52] <jbmigel> chad_ weird
[04:52] <xplic1t> i've just ran ./configure for a program I'm trying to install.  now I'm supposed to run make according to some instructions, but no makefile is found.  any advice please?
[04:52] <rbil> do this ... /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <yourpassword>  and see whether that does it
[04:52] <effie_jayx> andy it's ok... welcome to the wonderful world of linux...
[04:52] <marc_> Effie....I wish it would have installed out of the Box forme...
[04:53] <rbil> yourpassword is all you need to apend to that line
[04:53] <effie_jayx> marc_:  it din't do the trick did it....
[04:53] <lostboyz> does anyone here know what the sending mechanism is for the webcam
[04:53] <effie_jayx> marc_:  he did som tweaking though...
[04:53] <lostboyz> i can see my webcam but i cannot send it
[04:53] <marc_> Effie...still no go...When I tried to reboot...boot up froze at the Network config
[04:53] <andy> Thanks effie_jayx.
[04:53] <Arrick> hey conreyt you know where you messed up with that whole deal?
[04:53] <andy> I feel really lost at times
[04:54] <G0oW> Hi everyone
[04:54] <melvin> hello
[04:54] <effie_jayx> marc_:  look at the tips he gives...
[04:54] <rbil> MEGALODON, if it returns this: you are now recognized  let me know and I'll pm you
[04:54] <CTho> dpkg-reconfigure xorg  does not ask me any questions - it just exits
[04:54] <conreyt> Arrick: yes.
[04:54] <tritium> CTho: xserver-xorg
[04:54] <MEGALODON> (19:53:11) NickServ: (notice) The nickname [MEGALODON]  is not registered
[04:54] <effie_jayx> andy: I have been using ubuntu for a while and I am still lost.. :)
[04:54] <CTho> tritium: thanks
[04:54] <G0oW> how do i get to adept in ubuntu...my friend was trying to help me install GCC, and he told me to go to adept and search it...
[04:54] <MEGALODON> rbil:  this is the message I got
[04:54] <marc_> I just uninstalled the Windows .inf drivers and will try another reboot...and then look at his tips...
[04:55] <effie_jayx> marc_ are you using ndswrapper?
[04:55] <marc_> I did....
[04:55] <rbil> hopefully someone can help u with that. if you have any other way to im, such as thru Gaim or Skype, we can do it that way.
[04:55] <MEGALODON> I have GAIM
[04:55] <chad_> _jbmigel_ thanks!
[04:55] <G0oW> can anyone tell me how to get to adept?
[04:55] <marc_> Effie...BRB
[04:55] <melvin> how much time of support will dapper have?
[04:56] <effie_jayx> marc_ may the source be with you ... :)
[04:56] <MadCowBoy> G0oW, Study hard apply yourself, you will get adept.
[04:56] <marc_> Thanks Effie...
[04:56] <melvin> how much time of support will dapper have?
[04:56] <G0oW> i don't know how to get to it...
[04:56] <MEGALODON> rbil: I can add you to my buddies....
[04:56] <rbil> MEGALODON, the conversation we may need to have is involved enuf that trying to do it thru a busy channel is hard.
[04:56] <effie_jayx> andy: what are you up to knoe?
[04:56] <effie_jayx> andy: what are you up to now?
[04:56] <G0oW> my friend tried to show me using kde but =/
[04:56] <MadCowBoy> melvin, 5 years of security and updates as I understand it,
[04:56] <rbil> MEGALODON, what im server do u use?
[04:56] <MEGALODON> rbil:  I agree
[04:57] <MEGALODON> hotmail
[04:57] <rbil> u running Skype?
[04:57] <melvin> and edgy only 18 months????
[04:57] <ebrevdo> hi all.  quick question: i have ubuntu i386 installed right now; but would like to install some amd64 packages as I recently recompiled the kernel to x86_64.  is there an easy way to add these to my apt sources.list?
[04:57] <andy> Trying to get mplayer iinstalled
[04:57] <Bagoor> How can I chown a lot of files ? (I get this error now : -bash: /bin/chown: Argument list too long)
[04:57] <rbil> hotmail, ok ... I'll get Gaim up, get to me at:  rbil49@hotmail.com
[04:57] <lostboyz> does anyone here know what the sending mechanism is for the webcam
[04:57] <lostboyz> i can see my webcam but i cannot send it
[04:58] <andy> mplayer does the same thing. Sound works but no video
[04:58] <MEGALODON> rbil:  I added you
[04:58] <MadCowBoy> melvin, apparently, so...Dapper is a 'LTS' release, "long term support' which is a large commitment by the orginization
[04:58] <ebrevdo> hmm.  is it possible to migrate to amd64 packages from i386?
[04:58] <Bagoor> lostboyz, where do you want to send ?
[04:58] <effie_jayx> andy: have you used automatix?
[04:59] <lostboyz> i want to send it in msn
[04:59] <melvin> ok, can anyone tell me what repositoties i need for monodevelop
[04:59] <G0oW> could someone please tell me how to get to adept?
[04:59] <lostboyz> but with kopete and amsn the chatmate says there is only a black screen
[04:59] <lostboyz> they cannot see it
[04:59] <effie_jayx> andy: If you just want it to work without learning much on how to install it... the it would be an option
[05:00] <noxxle> Movie Player is keeping past files played in history. How can i turn that off. i dont see an option in preferences
[05:00] <Bagoor> lostboyz, I don't know any MSN client with Webcam support ! You may use Ekiga. It's compatible with Netmeeting
[05:00] <melvin> is it save to use edgy?
[05:00] <effie_jayx> marc_:   nothing?
[05:00] <lotusleaf> lostboyz: you may hear something useful re: webcams in #spca50x and #creative
[05:00] <lostboyz> yes but i am able to see it only i am not able to send it
[05:01] <lostboyz> join #spca50x
[05:01] <melvin> is it save to use edgy?
[05:01] <melvin> or not yet
[05:01] <andy> No I have not used automatix. Where can I get it?
[05:01] <melvin> another thing i need good repositories
[05:01] <G0oW> automatix is pretty nice
[05:02] <bimberi> melvin: monodevelop is in universe
[05:02] <G0oW> i like easyubuntu thought
[05:02] <amiyourjuliet> hi guys
[05:02] <MadCowBoy> noxxle, I think thatsjust what mplayer does, try and delete the files from the playlist
[05:02] <amiyourjuliet> hows is everyone?
[05:02] <ebrevdo> hey; can i set my architecture manually in ubuntu?
[05:02] <vith> i'm trying to rsync /dev/sda but using rsync -D (--devices --specials) doesn't seem to be working, i get an error "skipping non-regular file sda".  any hints?
[05:02] <bimberi> melvin: edgy is scheduled for release on Thursday
[05:02] <effie_jayx> andy:L automatix will isntall a whole bunch of stuff atomatically
[05:03] <melvin> i need good repositories, where can i find a good listo
[05:03] <noxxle> madcowboy i couldnt
[05:03] <G0oW> andy,  ill get you a link
[05:03] <noxxle> madcowboy it went aaway when i dleted the file offf my pc
[05:03] <G0oW> it show's you all you need to know aboutit
[05:03] <andy> Cool, Where can I get it?
[05:03] <G0oW> brb
[05:03] <noxxle> sux i wanna watch porn
[05:03] <noxxle> maybe i need to switch to vlc??
[05:03] <amiyourjuliet> have any of you been able to successfully install gtk-sopcast?
[05:03] <melvin> i need good repositoties
[05:03] <marc_> Effie...Nope...
[05:04] <tempered> I would like to setup SSH on ubuntu, but don't know where to start.  I have putty on my windows box.  How do I configure the ubuntu to receive the connection?
[05:04] <effie_jayx> andy:includin mplayer, java plug ins and  flash plug ins for firefox...  JRE and JDK , AMAROK.... it is usefull if you are feeling a bit lazy :)
[05:04] <tnnc> anyone have an idea why when i ssh X into box and try to run like firefox& i get GTK-WARNING cant open display
[05:04] <andy> that's me
[05:05] <bimberi> tempered: install the ssh package
[05:05] <effie_jayx> andy www.getautomati.com
[05:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, repos | melvin
[05:05] <ubotu> melvin: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:05] <effie_jayx> andy www.getautomatix.org
[05:05] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, please don't recommend that here, you don't want to be resposible for breaking people's Ubuntu, do you?
[05:05] <maxflax> the new drivers for Nvidia graphics.. someting with a fix.. how do I install? cause the way I did it don't seem the right way.. I know this by trial and error.. :)
[05:05] <lostboyz> does anyone here know what the sending mechanism is for the webcam
[05:06] <lostboyz> i can see my webcam but i cannot send it
[05:06] <MartinOz> i'm having a problem playing DVDs in Totem - I've installed libdvdcss but I still get error message "seems you're trying to play an encrypted dvd" ... anybody know how to fix this ?
[05:06] <amiyourjuliet> can someone tell me how to interpret this error: make
[05:06] <amiyourjuliet> g++ -O2 -Wall `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0`  -c callbacks.cc -o callbacks.o
[05:06] <amiyourjuliet> /bin/sh: g++: command not found?
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> I might have to reinstall this...keep getting errors with gzip
[05:06] <bimberi> amiyourjuliet: install build-essential
[05:06] <Madpilot> amiyourjuliet, did you install build-essential?
[05:06] <difeta>  #banshee
[05:06] <amiyourjuliet> i have no idea.... i'm new :/
[05:07] <amiyourjuliet> apt-get build-essential?
[05:07] <Madpilot> amiyourjuliet, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:07] <MartinOz> apt-get install build-essential
[05:07] <andy> It says server not found using that url
[05:07] <maxflax> notice the pink elephant in the celing.. isn't a good thing.. how the heck did he get up there
[05:07] <amiyourjuliet> thanks for the help guys... looks like i didn't have it
[05:07] <amiyourjuliet> :)
[05:08] <Madpilot> amiyourjuliet, but what are you trying to compile that isn't in the repos?
[05:08] <amiyourjuliet> gtk-sopcast front end gui
[05:08] <jmworx> MartinOz: Maybe totem also needs to be compiled with libdvdcss support
[05:08] <Madpilot> maxflax, the first rule about the pink elephant in the ceiling, is that we don't talk about the pink elephant in the ceiling.
[05:08] <amiyourjuliet> for cable tv over the internet :)
[05:08] <spinz8r> For info. Edgy RC cripple my BT. BTconnection manager missing. BT file sharing remains.uninstall/reinstall gnome bluetooth to no avail.
[05:08] <maxflax> Madpilot, good rule..
[05:08] <amiyourjuliet> madpilot: http://lianwei3.googlepages.com/home2
[05:09] <effie_jayx> andy:  http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:09] <MartinOz> jmworx: thanks - I've got "totem-xine" installed. Is there a particular "flavour" of totem with libdvdcss support ?
[05:09] <Terminus> can somebody tell my why `find . -print0 -name *.swp` gives me different results from `find . -name *.swp`?
[05:09] <effie_jayx> andy:  it was a dot com... you have drapper of breezy?
[05:09] <Madpilot> amiyourjuliet, interesting - that, you're going to have to compile
[05:09] <MartinOz> (plus the xine-extra-codecs)
[05:09] <maxflax> Madpilot, it almost makes it go away.. maybe if I shut my eyes really hard! :D
[05:09] <amiyourjuliet> yea,... no problem.  It's small.  I've installed it on windows, works great.  Not the gtk front end that is...
[05:10] <jmworx> MartinOz: No idea. I never got *anything* (encrypted or not) to play in totem ever. I usually use vlc, xine or mplayer for DVDs.
[05:10] <lotusleaf> Halloween is coming up, if anyone of you has any CDs left from shipit, no need for excuses, hand them out this Halloween, duct tape a Snickers bar to them if you have to, just get them handed out! ;)
[05:10] <tnnc> anyone have an idea why i get GTK-WARNING cant open display when i use ssh -X  and then try to run like firefox&
[05:10] <MartinOz> jmworx: OK Thanks for sharing - I'll try vlc, xine or mplayer. Cheers
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> lotusleaf: Cool idea!  No ShipIt CDs left, but I could burn some.
[05:11] <KingLear> Hello all
[05:11] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: that's the spirit! I'll be handing out Dapper and Edgy CDs this Halloween
[05:11] <gentgeen__> How do get GNOME to change Virtual Desktops by moving mouse off the edge? (Using LiveCD 5.04
[05:11] <effie_jayx> apologies to all ... I had not read the automatix note on the channel... I will not lead people to automatix anymore...
[05:11] <Pelo> MartinOz  you probably just need the restricted format stuff,  there a repo for it
[05:11] <effie_jayx> I find it not ethical the not on the channel on their site
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> lotusleaf: I have Hoary CDs left...but I don't think we want to give those out :X
[05:11] <KingLear> why is that so , that after installing smartlink drivers downloaded from limodems.technion.ac.il, having identified my modem with scan modem, I keep on disconnecting very often
[05:11] <abarbaccia> hello all - how can i install edgy from a terminal rather than the GUI live desktop?
[05:11] <effie_jayx> andy: I can gide you to better guide on isntalling what you need...
[05:12] <amiyourjuliet> what is wrong with automatix?  it worked great for me.
[05:12] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: :P
[05:12] <Madpilot> abarbaccia, use the alternate install ISO
[05:12] <abarbaccia> what do you mean? a new CD?
[05:12] <Terminus> no takers on my question? it just busted a lot of my hidden files because of the different results. =(
[05:12] <effie_jayx> amiyourjuliet:  I don't know and I don't care... but they are disregarding people and that is not ethical...
[05:12] <Madpilot> abarbaccia, yes, it's a different ISO to download
[05:12] <tempered> how do I find the names of packages?  like if I want to install ssh... but don't know what the full package is called how do I use apt-get to find the name for me?
[05:12] <RandomDude16> how do I get nvidia beta drivers?
[05:12] <abarbaccia> Madpilot: alright - thanks
[05:12] <Pelo> amiyourjuliet  I suspect that because of the original ubuntu stance about proprietary format,  automatix is a bit of a tabou
[05:12] <MartinOz> Pelo: I think my sources.list is all right - I've got mplayer, msttcorefonts, faad2 etc etc
[05:12] <amiyourjuliet> effie_jayx:  I don't know the story....
[05:13] <Pelo> btw it works well fo me too
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Praise APT!  I fixed it!
[05:13] <effie_jayx> amiyourjuliet:  I don't either... but I am not leading people to them...
[05:13] <amiyourjuliet> pelo: you mean the dcss etc?
[05:14] <Pelo> amiyourjuliet ???
[05:14] <effie_jayx> amiyourjuliet:  check this link... I was outraged... because I find people in this channel of great help
[05:14] <effie_jayx> http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page#Versions_and_Changelog&Itemid=33
[05:14] <Vaske_Car> Can I install FONT from Windows that have .ttf extension?
[05:14] <effie_jayx> Vaske_Car yes
[05:14] <Vaske_Car> how?
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> !fonts | Vaske_Car
[05:14] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[05:14] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[05:14] <amiyourjuliet> lol, that is a pretty dick move
[05:15] <abarbaccia> Madpilot: do you have a link - i can't find a daily build for it
[05:15] <Madpilot> abarbaccia, the alternate ISO might not have a daily - check the beta ISOs
[05:15] <tonyyarusso>  ubotu is only a short step down from God ;)
[05:15] <amiyourjuliet> I'm getting some compile errors, maybe you guys can interpret them?
[05:15] <KingLear> The Longest period of time I got connected was 34 minutes
[05:15] <amiyourjuliet> header.h:45:23: error: curl/curl.h: No such file or directory
[05:15] <amiyourjuliet> header.h:46:28: error: alsa/asoundlib.h: No such file or directory
[05:15] <KingLear> can any one tell me whats wrong with my Dapper ?
[05:16] <effie_jayx> KingLear shoot :)
[05:16] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, interesting discovery - the automatix crew haven't changed very much, I see...
[05:16] <amiyourjuliet> i tried sudo apt-get install curl.... still got the same error after i installed it?
[05:16] <KingLear> why is that so , that after installing smartlink drivers downloaded from limodems.technion.ac.il, having identified my modem with scan modem, I keep on disconnecting very often
[05:16] <KingLear> effie_jayx:  :)
[05:16] <gnufied> I was trying to install ECB(Emacs Code browser) on dapper..using apt-get and installation failed at "Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:16] <gnufied>  semantic
[05:16] <gnufied> "
[05:16] <abarbaccia> Madpilot: thanks a bunch! i found it.
[05:16] <gnufied> now..i can't remove that package
[05:17] <gnufied> i get the same error
[05:17] <gnufied> i can't install any new package, i get the same error
[05:17] <effie_jayx> Madpilot: I don't care... I won't lead anyone else to them...
[05:17] <KingLear> The longest periodof connection was 34 minutes , effie_jayx, and shortest was 3 minutes
[05:17] <gentgeen__> tempered, don't see that you got an answer.... apt-cache search "term"  --- so ssh for "term" will help you find ssh
[05:17] <effie_jayx> KingLear what modem is it?
[05:17] <KingLear> what could be the reason for such frequent disconnections?
[05:18] <gnufied> is there any easy way..to fix broken package tree
[05:18] <KingLear> PCTel, 688t with Oasis chipset
[05:18] <KingLear> hsp56 MIcromodem
[05:18] <rednaxel> hi all
[05:18] <KingLear> scan modem identfied smart link drivers for this,
[05:19] <KingLear> effie_jayx:  which I downloaded and installed without any problemat all
[05:19] <effie_jayx> KingLear let me do some research
[05:19] <KingLear> Thanx effie_jayx
[05:20] <rednaxel> my X does not start anymore (after a hard reset)
[05:20] <kholerabbi> how do I change my system language (menues etc.)???
[05:20] <rednaxel> (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap"
[05:20] <rednaxel> (EE) Failed to load module "pcidata"
[05:20] <rednaxel> any hint?
[05:20] <gnufied> oh..
[05:20] <effie_jayx> KingLear is your modem supported?
[05:21] <andy> Which automatix do I get for dapper?
[05:21] <sidny4> how do I make a program run at startup?
[05:21] <KingLear> Yes
[05:21] <KingLear> It definitely is
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> andy: You don't.
[05:21] <KingLear> thats what scan modem toldme
[05:21] <KingLear> :)
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> andy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or !easyubuntu instead
[05:21] <kholerabbi> sidny4: System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs > Add
[05:22] <sidny4> ok
[05:22] <sonnie> the desktop CD's installer always tells "Cannot display this video mode", I have removed 1280x1024 mode from xorg.conf, but anytime it tries 1280x1024, why
[05:22] <sonnie> I use this CD: ubuntu-6.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[05:22] <kholerabbi> sidny4: where it says 'Startup Command' type something like "gaim", firefox, evolution, or whatever you want
[05:23] <tnnc> anyone know why i get GTK-WARNING cant open display when i ssh into the box
[05:23] <effie_jayx> KingLear you had no p's with the smart link driver///
[05:23] <sidny4> yup, thanks
[05:23] <kholerabbi> ok
[05:24] <KingLear> effie_jayx:  The drivers I downloaded for modem as per instructions are in slamr-2.6.15-23-386 file
[05:24] <KingLear> effie_jayx:  pardon?
[05:24] <effie_jayx> KingLear you installed the smartlink drivers?
[05:25] <Vaske_Car> tonyyarusso, thanks
[05:25] <andy> How do I get automatix to work with ubuntu?
[05:26] <KingLear> Yes effie_jayx
[05:26] <tritium> andy: try easyubuntu instead
[05:26] <effie_jayx> Madpilot: it is obvious someone had a run into with them... but it is no reason for disregarding people here in the channel
[05:26] <Vaske_Car> !msttcorefonts | Vaske_Car
[05:26] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[05:26] <andy> Where do I get that?
[05:26] <KingLear> effie_jayx:  Only after scan modem identified and pointed to the drivers
[05:26] <Madpilot> andy, best advice we can give about automatix is "Avoid it entirely."
[05:26] <andy> sorry
[05:26] <tritium> !easyubuntu
[05:26] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:26] <andy> do I need to unistaqll it?
[05:27] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, there have been several run-ins with the Automatix developer
[05:27] <Vaske_Car> automatix is not bad for quick installations
[05:27] <effie_jayx> andy: I told you go automatix... but after I read some things... I discurage you from It... I'm sorry for misleading you.
[05:28] <effie_jayx> Madpilot:  what about easy ubuntu?
[05:28] <effie_jayx> Madpilot:  can I tell andy about it?
[05:28] <effie_jayx> :)
[05:28] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, sure
[05:28] <Madpilot> it's at least slightly saner & safer, from all reports
[05:28] <effie_jayx> andy: there is an alternative... EASYUBUNTU... :)
[05:29] <Vaske_Car> effie_jayx, what is wrong with automatix?
[05:29] <effie_jayx> Vaske_Car:  I don't know but a nasty comment on their site has made me think twice before I encourage people to use it
[05:29] <KingLear> so, what could be the reason for my frequent disconnections?
[05:29] <rednaxel> where are the X11 (xorg) modules? my X does not start and complains about "bitmap" and "pcidata" modules
[05:30] <effie_jayx> KingLear: I can't be sure...
[05:30] <effie_jayx> KingLear: because it is working...
[05:30] <Kragnerac> Hello, does antone know what the Minimum RAM requirement will be on Edgy?
[05:30] <effie_jayx> KingLear: isn't it...
[05:30] <andy> no Bigge. I'm learning a lot.
[05:31] <effie_jayx> KingLear has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <---- his moend went puff on him
[05:31] <effie_jayx> andy go to the easyubuntu site... :)
[05:31] <amiyourjuliet> i was able to install the program
[05:31] <amiyourjuliet> :)
[05:31] <amiyourjuliet> thanks for the help
[05:31] <tnnc> is there anyone here that can answer my ? about remote ssh
[05:31] <andy> I have it running now
[05:32] <effie_jayx> andy really?
[05:32] <effie_jayx> what are you installing???
[05:32] <andy> It was prety easy to install
[05:33] <kjm> hey everyone
[05:33] <andy> the codecs for the media players
[05:33] <braino> tnnc: what was your question?
[05:34] <effie_jayx> andy great... :)
[05:34] <tnnc> braino i get an GTK-WARNING cant open display and wonder what could cause that
[05:34] <effie_jayx> andy automatix is much more of a hassle any way :)
[05:34] <braino> when do you get that warning?
[05:35] <Kragnerac> I want to know if the Edgy version is going to require at least 512 RAM, as I've seen dramatic increases in the last few versions... 32MB for Hoary, 128MB for Breezy, 256MB for Dapper...
[05:35] <tnnc> when i use ssh -l -X name hostip and i get in then run like firefox& i get it
[05:36] <andy> Ubentu seems pretty easy
[05:36] <andy> easyubuntu seems pretty easy
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> What will be new in Edgy? Any good link with explanation?
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> !edgy | Vaske_Car
[05:36] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:37] <andy> The video works! Thanks for all the help on this
[05:38] <effie_jayx> and: you are wellcom
[05:38] <tnnc> braino i get it after i login and try to run like firefox
[05:38] <blake6489_> hey, ive got a shell script question
[05:38] <effie_jayx> andy: you are welcome my friend
[05:38] <tgelter> "Failed to load module 'evdev' " when I try to get my MX1000 mouse working...any ideas? (it keeps X from starting)
[05:39] <blake6489_> im trying to perform the same action on all files in a directory tree
[05:39] <braino> tnnc: do you have the allow X11 forwarding set in your hosts config?
[05:39] <rednaxel> tgelter: my X is not starting too...
[05:40] <tgelter> rednaxel: is your problem related to the Core Pointer?
[05:40] <blake6489_> heres the script,,    foreach x (*.svg) /n  /usr/bin/convert -render "$x" testing/"$x"  /n  end
[05:40] <rednaxel> my X does not start and complains about "bitmap" and "pcidata" modules
[05:40] <tnnc> braino yes in sshd_config that is set
[05:40] <hav0k> does anyone know what window xp's charset is?  im trying to copy a regedit file to ubuntu for wine
[05:40] <andy> I can not get the embedded video package to work because it says no public key. What is that?
[05:41] <effie_jayx> Madpilot:  andy = one happy costumer
[05:41] <andy> Trying
[05:41] <hav0k> does anyone know what window xp's charset is?  im trying to copy a regedit file to ubuntu for wine and i need to convert the coding
[05:41] <effie_jayx> Madpilot:  scratch that... one happy user...
[05:41] <effie_jayx> andy: you did not buy it...
[05:41] <effie_jayx> andy
[05:41] <Madpilot> effie_jayx, good to know, and yes, MS might have customers, but Ubuntu has users. Users are better.
[05:42] <effie_jayx> Madpilot: and HUMAN users ... humble... ready to learn and to to lead...
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> How to convert europoed DVD to american with Ubuntu?
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> european*
[05:43] <sixth> DBO,
[05:43] <hav0k> no, a regedit file from my windows
[05:43] <Toma-> Vaske_Car: dvdshrink perhaps?
[05:43] <sixth> DBO, whats "super" key?
[05:43] <andy> Tmakes sense.
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> Toma, hvala
[05:43] <andy> that make sense
[05:43] <DBO> sixth, windows key
[05:43] <Toma-> what?
[05:43] <briguyd> is the official firefox icon in now?
[05:44] <Vaske_Car> thanks
[05:44] <sixth> DBO, thanks for everything
[05:44] <DBO> sixth, yep
[05:44] <Toma-> ok :D
[05:44] <sixth> DBO, youve helped me alot :)
[05:44] <witless> apt-get upgrade  is giving me "following packages could not be updated" errors.  is there a fix?
[05:44] <joincamp> something i did when playing with gtk themes hosed it and now i cant get into gnome.  is there any way to revert this?
[05:44] <Toma-> Vaske_Car: xdvdshrink is a nice frontend to it btw
[05:44] <DBO> sixth, nothing big =)  enjoy beryl
[05:44] <cchacker> who knows how to lift restriction
[05:45] <tritium> cchacker: what are you talking about?
[05:45] <Toma-> cchacker: take off the girdle?
[05:45] <hav0k> does anyone know window's default charset?
[05:45] <cchacker> off bank account
[05:45] <DigitalNinja> What's the best way to install the nvidia driver
[05:45] <liwi> hi
[05:46] <liwi> what means "periodicaly" (how often) in gnome clock?
[05:46] <sixth> DBO, thanks alot, i will :)) byebye for now
[05:46] <Toma-> cchacker: call the bank and tell them your password/PIN?
[05:46] <cchacker> it dont work
[05:46] <tnnc> braino yes X11 forwarding is set to yes in sshd_config file
[05:46] <andy> I am trying to install the logitech webcam driver. I downloaded the file and it is setting in my archive manager. What do I do now?
[05:46] <hav0k> does anyone know window's default charset?
[05:46] <Toma-> cchacker: because its not your account?
[05:47] <cchacker> its mine just not my info
[05:47] <dr4cul453xy> good day everyone
[05:47] <joincamp> something i did when playing with gtk themes hosed it and now i cant get into gnome.  is there any way to revert this?
[05:47] <tritium> cchacker: how can that be?
[05:47] <Toma-> cchacker: and thats got something to do with ubuntu how?
[05:47] <cchacker> i thought i could find someone who could into it
[05:48] <cchacker> hack
[05:48] <Toma-> lol
[05:48] <dr4cul453xy> anyone know how to chat to yahoomessenger from ubuntu?
[05:48] <joincamp> what is the bin for the gnome themer
[05:48] <Vaske_Car> dr4cul453xy, install Kopete
[05:49] <dr4cul453xy> i've done installed my ubuntu just a few minutes ago
[05:49] <tritium> dr4cul453xy: use gaim
[05:49] <bun-bun> !gaim > dr4cul453xy
[05:49] <Vaske_Car> yes Gaim too, I like more Kopete :)
[05:49] <purefan> Hi all!
[05:49] <dr4cul453xy> ok thanks broyhers...
[05:49] <purefan> oh it works, hehe total noob here
[05:50] <Toma-> lol a hacker with an aol account
[05:50] <hav0k> does anyone know window's default charset?
[05:50] <vice-versa> need some help getting grub working correctly on a SATA capable system, but using PATA drive with XP and Ubuntu installed
[05:50] <purefan> hmmm.... I dont, but wouldnt UTF-8 work?
[05:51] <DarkMageZ> Toma-, all hackers on AOL accounts aren't actually on aol... they've just compromised aol machines and using them as innocent fronts
[05:51] <hav0k> how about ubuntu's default charset?
[05:51] <Toma-> yeh
[05:51] <dr4cul453xy> thanks tritium & bun-bun.. its work :)
[05:51] <Toma-> i know
[05:51] <bun-bun> dr4cul453xy# you're welcome
[05:51] <purefan> can anyone read me??
[05:52] <vice-versa> will only boot from the PATA drive if there is a SATA drive installed
[05:52] <bun-bun> purefan# yes
[05:52] <witless> when i run apt-get upgrade, i get this error with about 20 packages: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"   -- any ideas what the problem might be?
[05:52] <bun-bun> witless# have you been adding sources to your sources.list file?
[05:53] <purefan> oh cool! thnx bun-bun :) well I could use some help on getting the Beryl installed and working.... my friend tried in the afternoon but couldnt really get it
[05:53] <DigitalNinja> What's the best way to install the invidia driver
[05:53] <bun-bun> !beryl
[05:53] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[05:53] <tritium> !nvidia
[05:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <andy> I am trying to install the drivers for my logitech webcam. I have downloaded the drivers and it sits in my archive manager. How doI get it installed?
[05:54] <vice-versa> anyone have any thoughts on this?
[05:54] <purefan> #ubotu thanks! I will :D
[05:55] <bun-bun> vice-versa# that's something you need to check in your BIOS
[05:55] <bun-bun> vice-versa# sounds like a boot device priority issue
[05:55] <vice-versa> bun-bun: been over that extensively
[05:56] <vice-versa> bun-bun: there is no way to disable SATA in the BIOS either :(
[05:56] <effie_jayx> andy: can't help you there...
[05:56] <jon_> what file contains the theme preferences so i can delete it....some option is killing my gnome
[05:56] <effie_jayx> andy: I haven't met a living sould who has made their wc work on linux...
[05:56] <effie_jayx> :(
[05:56] <bun-bun> vice-versa# you're trying to boot linux from your sata drive?
[05:56] <andy> Darn
[05:56] <effie_jayx> andy: try searching the forums...
[05:56] <vice-versa> bun-bun: for what it's worth, it worked fine with Windows boot loader with just the PATA disk
[05:57] <effie_jayx> andy: i tried to do it a year and a half ago...
[05:57] <vice-versa> bun-bun: no, bot XP and Ubuntu are installed on the PATA drive
[05:57] <effie_jayx> andy: things change :)
[05:57] <vice-versa> *both
[05:57] <bun-bun> vice-versa# so your system is looking to boot from the sata drive?
[05:57] <witless> bun-bun: all the sources are at ubuntu.com
[05:58] <andy> I found the drivers on sourceforge. I downloaded it. I just need to know how to get out of my archive manager and installed
[05:58] <vice-versa> bun-bun: no, I think it's a grub issue to be honest, like I said Windows boot loader works fine
[05:58] <bun-bun> vice-versa# i'm not clear what issue you're having
[05:59] <smotang> !software
[05:59] <vice-versa> bun-bun: will only boot from the PATA drive if there is a SATA drive installed
[05:59] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[05:59] <bun-bun> witless# i've gotten similar errors when i've updated my sources.list without updating the keys
[05:59] <vice-versa> bun-bun: but this system will not have a SATA drive
[05:59] <alekz> how can i change the ubuntu version that is displayed on http://www.ubuntuforums.org ?
[06:00] <bun-bun> vice-versa# so if it's just the pata drive installed it won't boot?
[06:00] <vice-versa> bun-bun: correct
[06:00] <matid> alekz: It's in your profile
[06:00] <jon_> what file contains the theme preferences for gnome so i can delete it....some option is killing my gnome
[06:00] <bun-bun> vice-versa# it sounds like you installed grub in the mbr of the sata drive perhaps
[06:00] <alekz> matid i can't find where...
[06:00] <witless> bun-bun: how do i update the keys?
[06:00] <alekz> lol i've seen where
[06:01] <vice-versa> bun-bun: there was no SATA drive in the system, we just tried one on a whim and low and behold up comes grub
[06:01] <matid> alekz: Try User CP->Settings & Options->Edit profile->Additional information
[06:01] <matid> ;)
[06:01] <alekz> yeap matid thanks =)
[06:01] <jon_> "what file contains the theme preferences so i can delete it....some option is killing my gnome"
[06:01] <tritium> jon_: please don't repeat too often
[06:02] <bun-bun> witless# something like wget http://the-site-you-added/somekey.gpg -O - |sudo apt-key add
[06:02] <tnnc> anyone else might have an idea why when i remote ssh to my box and try to like firefox& i get GTK-WARNING cant open display i have X11 forwarding set to yes in sshd_config any ideas anyone??
[06:03] <bun-bun> tnnc# are you invoking ssh with ssh -X xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?
[06:03] <braino> sorry tnnc, I couldn't find anything =/
[06:04] <snoops> can someone recommend to me a graphical duplicate file finder?
[06:04] <tnnc> bun-bun i am running like ssh -l user -X ip
[06:04] <godmachine81> how long will this chan support dapper after thursday?
[06:04] <godmachine81> also will edgy automatically become the main focus in here as soon as it is released?
[06:04] <godmachine81> or will there be like a grace period?
[06:04] <bun-bun> tnnc# that looks like it would work, but maybe try ssh -X user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[06:05] <tnnc> bun-bun i have also try that way to but get that warning
[06:05] <snoops> well dapper is called long term support..which is supposed to be a full 5 years support godmachine81
[06:05] <vice-versa> bun-bun: so any thoughts?
[06:06] <godmachine81> 18 months
[06:06] <bun-bun> vice-versa# i thought your last statement said it was working
[06:06] <godmachine81> and that doesnt mean the irc chan
[06:06] <godmachine81> that means the repos will be maintained with security updates for 18 months
[06:06] <marcrosoft> anyone know how to turn off the minimize effect in gnome?
[06:06] <godmachine81> and backports
[06:07] <vice-versa> bun-bun: yeah, only if we install a SATA drive in the syste, there will be no SATA drive in it when it's working correctly
[06:07] <witless> bun-bun: i just realized this is a xubuntu machine - would that make a difference?
[06:07] <Halpo> how do you tell which files are special files in the /dev  (i was reading in the man man)
[06:07] <bun-bun> witless# i don't think so
[06:07] <witless> hrm
[06:07] <snoops> oh whoops it's 3 years for dapper-desktop and 5 years for dapper server godmachine81.. and yeah, I have no idea if this channel will continue to focus on dapper
[06:08] <bun-bun> vice-versa# that sounds bizarre.  if you've already checked and double checked yoru BIOS settings and you're certain grub is installed properly in the mbr of your pata drive
[06:08] <Trae> It's amazing how terribly bad alacarte is
[06:08] <Amaranth> Trae: How is that?
[06:08] <Trae> heh
[06:08] <Trae> speak of the devil
[06:08] <Trae> :)
[06:08] <Leone> hi , i my ubuntu dapper done connect to internet :S
[06:08] <vice-versa> bun-bun: well it must be, as it will boot with a SATA drive in the system
[06:09] <Trae> Amaranth, seriously... there are simple things one should be able to do that proves infinitely elusive
[06:09] <bun-bun> vice-versa# what's on the sata drive?
[06:09] <vice-versa> bun-bun: it's not booting from the SATA drive either btw
[06:09] <Amaranth> Trae: Examples?
[06:09] <Trae> Amaranth, Drag Firefox to be on the main Applications menu
[06:09] <Trae> So I don't have to hunt for it
[06:09] <vice-versa> bun-bun: XP, Gentoo with lilo boot loader
[06:09] <Amaranth> Trae: You can do that.
[06:09] <Trae> Won't go in without a folder.
[06:10] <Amaranth> hmm
[06:10] <bun-bun> vice-versa# and without the sata drive it won't boot at all?  or it just fails to find a bootable disk?
[06:10] <vice-versa> bun-bun: just fails to find a bootable disk
[06:10] <Leone> i cant connect to internet , why!??!
[06:10] <bun-bun> vice-versa# try pulling the sata drive and reinstalling grub
[06:10] <Trae> Amaranth, 0.10.1 is what I have
[06:10] <Amaranth> Trae: I think it's actually a bug with the way I have alacarte naming files, not a bug with moving things to the 'Applications' menu.
[06:10] <bun-bun> vice-versa# using a live cd or a rescue floppy
[06:10] <stephen_> hello everyone
[06:11] <vice-versa> bun-bun: been there done that too many times now
[06:11] <sudharsh> Leone: what kinda connection do you have
[06:11] <Amaranth> Trae: Try something that doesn't have a space in the name.
[06:11] <sudharsh> !internet
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <Epidemik> how do i get javaruntimeenviroment?
[06:11] <Leone> adsl 512 sudharsh
[06:11] <Trae> Amaranth, ok.
[06:11] <vice-versa> bun-bun: liveCD
[06:11] <sudharsh> Leone: ok..sudo pppoeconf
[06:11] <Trae> Amaranth, I feel guilty now that you caught me talking bad about you
[06:11] <Trae> hehe
[06:11] <Leone> sudharsh, i am in my live cd
[06:11] <Epidemik> anyone?
[06:11] <sudharsh> Leone: doesnt matter dude :)
[06:12] <Leone> ok
[06:12] <Leone> now i press yes?
[06:12] <Leone> sorry my english isnt very good
[06:12] <Leone> :D
[06:12] <sudharsh> Leone: yes
[06:12] <heatxsink> hello all!
[06:12] <Leone> ok , i pressed yes
[06:12] <heatxsink> hehe, anyone experience problems upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[06:12] <Trae> Amaranth, :/
[06:12] <Amaranth> Trae: That didn't work either?
[06:12] <sudharsh> Leone: it should start looking for the ethernet interface on you box
[06:12] <Trae> I renamed Firefox  to Firefox (without spaces)
[06:13] <Trae> Amaranth, also... there needs to be a "non-alphabetical" ability
[06:13] <Amaranth> Trae: Explain?
[06:13] <Leone> sudharsh, Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access             
[06:13] <Leone>            Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please    
[06:13] <Leone>            check your network and modem cables. Another reason      
[06:13] <Leone>            for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe   
[06:13] <Leone>            process which controls the modem.
[06:13] <Leone> sorri about the spam!!
[06:13] <Trae> Leone, np, just #flood or pastebin.com please
[06:13] <Trae> Leone, next time that is
[06:13] <Leone> sorry  flood
[06:13] <Leone> yes
[06:13] <Leone> sorry
[06:13] <sudharsh> Leone: what kinda modem are you having..is it a adsl ethernet router?
[06:13] <Trae> Amaranth, trying heh, got distracted.
[06:14] <Trae> Amaranth, going to create a custom launcher and see if that works.
[06:14] <Leone> sudharsh,  yes is a router
[06:15] <Amaranth> Trae: If I rename ~/.local/share/applications/Firefox Web Browser.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/Firefox.desktop then edit ~/.config/menus/applications.menu to use the name filename it works fine
[06:15] <Trae> Amaranth, w00p!
[06:15] <Trae> Amaranth, it's working now
[06:15] <Amaranth> Trae: So I just need to replace spaces with _
[06:15] <sudharsh> Leone: ok..does it have an admin interface running in it? like when you point to some address in your browser you get an admin interface
[06:15] <Amaranth> Trae: Hopefully it'll get into an edgy update
[06:16] <Trae> Amaranth, btw, if you ever need someone to test stuff on, let me know.  (as long as you don't blow up my machine!)
[06:16] <Leone> mm no , in the live cd i dont have any problem to browse some pages , but when iu started my session it say "page not found"bla bla
[06:16] <Trae> Amaranth, oh, a "delete" would be nice.
[06:16] <sudharsh> Leone: oh so it was working earlier? what does ifconfig say
[06:16] <Chu> Hmm, I seem to be having graphical issues with Edgy Eft (boot messages after grub aren't showing up). What packages may be a factor in this?
[06:17] <Amaranth> Trae: The worst that could happen is you lose your custom menus (unless you run as root, then you could use /usr/share/applications/* :P)
[06:17] <Amaranth> Trae: right click on a menu item
[06:17] <Trae> Amaranth, nod... I could aways re-build em'
[06:17] <Amaranth> Trae: (the ones in the right list)
[06:17] <Amaranth> Trae: Or just hit the delete key
[06:17] <Trae> Amaranth, ahh okies.  (Probably just need a button on the right side)
[06:17] <Leone> sudharsh, when i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper the internet doesnt work
[06:17] <Trae> as there is a button for other things.
[06:17] <Amaranth> Trae: too many buttons :P
[06:17] <Trae> Amaranth, nod
[06:18] <sudharsh> Leone: aah ok...sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[06:18] <Trae> Amaranth, sweet
[06:18] <Trae> Amaranth, you have no idea how long I've waited for this.
[06:18] <Trae> I've just avoided that thing like the plague
[06:18] <Leone> sudharsh, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28062/
[06:18] <Trae> heh
[06:19] <Amaranth> Trae: hehe, it's been there in some form since breezy
[06:19] <Trae> yeah... but 0.8 left a bad taste in my mouth
[06:19] <Leone> sudharsh, ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[06:19] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$
[06:19] <Trae> Amaranth, triple my money back though, if I ain't 100% satisfied!
[06:19] <Trae> ;)
[06:19] <sudharsh> Leone: try ping google.com
[06:19] <Trae> Amaranth, I'm feelin' it now though
[06:19] <Amaranth> Trae: hehe, 0.8 was _slow_
[06:19] <Leone> sudharsh,  in console?
[06:20] <sudharsh> Leone: yeah
[06:20] <Amaranth> Trae: In 0.10 I switched to use the same backend the actually menus use to make it go faster.
[06:20] <witless> i'm using synclient to turn off the tap-button behavior of my laptop touchpad.  where's a good place to put that command so it runs for all laptop users?
[06:20] <Leone> ok sudharsh
[06:20] <Trae> Amaranth, Great work.
[06:20] <Trae> Amaranth, I know this is probably a dirty word to you, but what are your thoughts on the SLED?
[06:20] <Trae> err
[06:20] <Trae>  s/SLED/SLAB/
[06:21] <panzerm> hello all
[06:21] <Leone> sudharsh,  it say ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ping google.com
[06:21] <Leone> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:21] <Leone> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=171 ms
[06:21] <Leone>   and contienue with 170ms 169 ms etc...
[06:21] <Amaranth> Trae: Thanks but it's the cause for fun bugs like the one you just found. My old backend was written by someone custom tailoring it to make my life easy. :)
[06:21] <Trae> Amaranth, there are some cases where, when the panel is on the bottom, that menu items don't full "explode" upward.
[06:21] <sudharsh> Leone: you are connected noe :L)
[06:21] <sudharsh> *now
[06:21] <Leone> i am conected?
[06:21] <Leone> really!?
[06:21] <Leone> :D
[06:21] <Amaranth> Trae: I think it's nice for new users but doesn't scale. Once you become more experienced it's slower then using the three menus like we have now.
[06:21] <Trae> Amaranth, I'm glad I can't code, so I can't be forced to take over from you!
[06:22] <Leone> so now i can restart and enter to my sesion and conect sudharsh 
[06:22] <Trae> Amaranth, nod... great observation.
[06:22] <VGambit> So there's no way of viewing flash 8 movies/animations in linux?
[06:22] <Amaranth> !flashbeta
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashbeta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Amaranth> grr
[06:22] <alekz> hi, im trying to make a traceroute but i can't, i have firestarter running, just if i disable it i cant perform traceourte, the thing here is that i've checked firestarter's options and the traceroute icmp filtering is enable, anyone has a idea?
[06:22] <Trae> Amaranth, did you figure out how to fix the issue with menus expanding when bottom panel is in use?
[06:22] <sudharsh> Leone: i suppose you are on the live cd..
[06:22] <Leone> yes
[06:22] <Amaranth> !flash9
[06:22] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)
[06:22] <Leone> i will try in my session
[06:22] <Amaranth> VGambit: there you go
[06:23] <Leone> thanks very much sudharsh , if i got a problem i will be here ok?
[06:23] <Leone> thanks!!!
[06:23] <sudharsh> Leone: cool
[06:23] <Amaranth> Trae: What's that?
[06:23] <Leone> :)
[06:23] <Amaranth> Trae: Oh, I only used the slab thing for about a week
[06:23] <VGambit> Thanks.
[06:23] <Trae> Amaranth, every once in a while, when you have your panel at the bottom, and you try to go to say "system" or "places" it will offer you a "browseable" menu... (where you have to scroll up and down in the menu)
[06:24] <Trae> doesn't happen often.
[06:24] <Trae> that could have been on 0.8 thing
[06:24] <Trae> as I don't recall it happening in Edgy yet
[06:24] <Amaranth> Trae: My "observation" is what a real usability guy said in a gnome mailing list that happened to match my experience.
[06:24] <concept10> you guys talking about USP?
[06:24] <Amaranth> Trae: That's not related to alacarte
[06:24] <Trae> Amaranth, ahh, but you know of what I'm speaking to.
[06:24] <Trae> man, I can't speak english for nuttin'
[06:24] <Trae> heh
[06:24] <cfc4n> 
[06:24] <Amaranth> Trae: And it happens on top panels too. It's basically never reproducible.
[06:25] <Trae> cfc4n, english only please.  #ubuntu-jp
[06:25] <Trae> I think that's Japaneses
[06:25] <Amaranth> Well, I see katakana
[06:25] <Trae> actually
[06:25] <Trae> yeah
[06:25] <Trae> sorry
[06:25] <cfc4n> No    Im Chinese !
[06:25] <bun-bun> !cn > cfc4n
[06:25] <Amaranth> But i don't know enough about the languages over there to know if chinese or korean use katakana
[06:25] <cfc4n> Yes !
[06:25] <Trae> cfc4n, sorry... I get my Asian chars mixxed up :(
[06:26] <cfc4n> ^_^
[06:26] <Trae> silly American boy[tm] 
[06:26] <Trae> I can normally tell the difference actually
[06:27] <Trae> Korean is quite easy to discern
[06:27] <Mustang97> Sorry, for the dumb question but I been searching the forums and cant seem to find a solution to my problem.   I am tring to use Wine to install Vb but firstly I need ot install it.   I cant for the life of me get the CD drive to mount.
[06:27] <Trae> sorry, I'm OT
[06:27] <Trae> ;)
[06:28] <Jfrench> Can some one link me to the URL of the Cedega 14 Day trial? I want to try it before buy, and i heard there is a trial :)
[06:28] <andy> Thanks for everyones's help. I learned alot.
[06:28] <effie_jayx> andy
[06:28] <effie_jayx>  cheerss...
[06:29] <effie_jayx> andy: keep on rocking un int free world...
[06:29] <andy> I still wish I knew how to get my logitech camera to work
[06:29] <flodine> anyone use eterm term
[06:29] <MrObvious> Hello.
[06:30] <MrObvious> I've got a problem using gstreamer to play mp3s, it doesn't work even though I installed the packages on the wiki.
[06:31] <MrObvious> *drops a pin*
[06:31] <tnnc> anyone else might have an idea why when i remote ssh to my box and try to like firefox& i get GTK-WARNING cant open display i have X11 forwarding set to yes in sshd_config any ideas anyone??
[06:32] <bimberi> tnnc: did you 'ssh -X <host>'
[06:32] <andy> Anyone know about a good web design software for ubuntu?
[06:32] <bimberi> ?
[06:33] <Mustang97> Applications >> Accessories >> Text Editor
[06:33] <andy> I've found NVU.
[06:33] <Mustang97> Best Web Designing software.  Do the coding yoru self.
[06:33] <braino> bluefish is nice
[06:33] <vice-versa> I need some help with a SATAnic grub boot loader problem, any experienced grub users willing to help?
[06:33] <braino> i use gvim though :o
[06:33] <leone> sudharsh, its not conected
[06:33] <leone> :(
[06:34] <sudharsh> leone: the session do not get saved in the live cd :)
[06:34] <tnnc> bimberi yes i have i can get it but when i run like firefox& i get the warning
[06:34] <leone> so ??
[06:34] <leone> :S
[06:35] <leone> what must i do , sorry
[06:35] <vice-versa> tnnc: can you run other apps?
[06:35] <sudharsh> leone: all the settings you save will revert to defaults
[06:35] <leone> ok
[06:35] <sudharsh> leone: if you need the sessions to be saved, you got to install ubuntu first :)
[06:35] <tnnc> vice-versa no nothing will run
[06:35] <leone> i installed ubuntu
[06:35] <leone> look
[06:36] <sudharsh> leone: then why are you on the live cd
[06:36] <leone> i am in a live cd , bc in my ubuntu i dont have internet
[06:36] <leone> i dont have internet in my ubuntu
[06:36] <dr4cul453xy> anyone know how to install Qt in ubuntu?
[06:36] <sudharsh> leone: aah ok.....just sudo ifconfig eth0 up in your ubuntu box
[06:36] <leone> so i must enter in my ubuntu and write the command?
[06:36] <Hilmar> Ok, I have been trying to set up my Ubuntu server as a gateway for my network now for 4 hours, trying to folllow the How-to on the net. But the iptables rules which is there dosnt work for me
[06:37] <Hilmar> I have tried everything now, starting to get frustrated
[06:37] <braino> tnnc: what about non-gnome apps, like xclock
[06:37] <leone> ok sudharsh  thanks
[06:37] <heatxsink> hello
[06:37] <leone> i will try in my ubuntu now
[06:37] <sudharsh> leone: ok tell me if it works
[06:37] <Hilmar> Anyone who can help me out?
[06:37] <leone> ok , thanks su
[06:37] <user__> I need help :(  I tried mounting ubuntu on my computer but it stops installing half ways
[06:37] <Hilmar> which knows something aboutiptables
[06:37] <user__> it doesnt hang..
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Hilmar, try asking in #ubuntu-server    that is more server related support
[06:38] <jon_> i was messing with gnome themes and i clicked on a kubuntu icon pack.....now gnome is hosed.   i cant find any way to bring it back..... can anyone help?
[06:38] <user__> it just pauses at 52% and it seems like its not installing anything anymore
[06:38] <vice-versa> Hilmar: try in #iptables too
[06:38] <Trae> Amaranth, more feedback:  I like the fact it doesn't "remove" an item under a particular catagory when you drag it out somewhere say to your "favorites"  (above Applications)
[06:38] <tnnc> braino i try xclock to and it gice the GTK-WARNING to
[06:39] <sudharsh> user__: maybe the media is borked..tried another media?
[06:39] <Amaranth> Trae: Funny, most people hate that. :P
[06:39] <Trae> it used to "drag it out" of a catagory before, and that always bugged me.
[06:39] <braino> hrm
[06:39] <braino> tnnc, is the server running a window manager?
[06:39] <tnnc> braino yes it is
[06:39] <Trae> Amaranth, yeah, but it doesn't make sense.  It's a lot like dragging via a NFS share... if you drag from your NFS share, you don't expect it to compleetely remove it from the remote source, when you only want a copy locally
[06:40] <user__> do you guys have any ideas why my installation fails at 52%?
[06:40] <Trae> Amaranth, meaning it doesn't make sense to make it "go away"
[06:40] <tnnc> braino ubuntu desktop
[06:40] <Amaranth> Trae: That's what I said. :)
[06:40] <wrabbit^> user__: bad burn?
[06:40] <Trae> Amaranth, ;)
[06:40] <VGambit> Ok, uh
[06:40] <braino> tnnc: then I think you will need to use a different display for the connecting clients
[06:40] <user__> hmmm...ill try burning it again...
[06:40] <Trae> Amaranth, great minds...
[06:40] <VGambit> Hibernation doesn't work properly on my laptop while using Dapper.
[06:40] <wrabbit^> user__: Try at a slower speed
[06:40] <braino> in your sshd_config, I think it's called XserverdisplayOffset, or something to that affect
[06:40] <sudharsh> user__: check the md5 also
[06:41] <tnnc> braino i am using cygwin in xp to connect
[06:41] <VGambit> It'll go into hibernation fine, but when I try to turn it back on, I get a blank screen.
[06:41] <Fletch229> hello is there a mirror or dload site with old versions of ubuntu available
[06:41] <user__> alright...im restart it it...thanks guys..
[06:41] <tnnc> braino till i reinstall ubuntu it worked
[06:42] <jon_> i was messing with gnome themes and i clicked on a kubuntu icon pack.....now gnome is hosed.   i cant find any way to bring it back..... can anyone help?
[06:42] <sudharsh> jon_: hosed? what jappened
[06:43] <jon_> nothing gnome related will load
[06:43] <jon_> when i changed the option it crashed
[06:43] <pibarnas> could anyone suceed compiling gtk-engines in dapper drake amd64?
[06:43] <braino> tnnc, lemme do some reading and see if I can find anything
[06:43] <tnnc> braino thanks
[06:43] <andy> I downloaded bluefish-0.11.tar.gz. How do I go about installing it?
[06:43] <jon_> sudharsh: if i try to run gnome-theme-manager i get gtk warnings and it crashes
[06:44] <braino> andy, use apt-get or synaptic to get bluefish
[06:44] <braino> type in gksudo synaptic and search for bluefish
[06:44] <jon_> sudharsh: is there a .conf file i can revert?
[06:44] <sudharsh> jon_: ok try running them in a terminal..maybe use xterm or failsafe for that..you ll get the verbose output
[06:44] <clarkbaumgartner> can someone help me? i've tried a few times and been ignored
[06:45] <andy> In synaptic, How do I get it?
[06:45] <braino> click the search button
[06:45] <sudharsh> jon_: uninstall the troublesome theme pack
[06:46] <jon_> sudharsh: (gtk-theme-switch2:22460): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for tango has no directories
[06:47] <jon_> sudharsh: how do i uninstall it though when i cant run the theme manager
[06:47] <flasher> I've got the SCIM/anthy program running for japanese. how can i type in korean. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:47] <sudharsh> jon_: look in ./gnome..sorry mate dont use gnome
[06:47] <sudharsh> *i
[06:48] <MrObvious> Does anyone know how to get gstreamer to play mp3s? I'm trying to use songbird and it requires gstreamer. oggs work great.
[06:48] <andy> Thanks for the help.
[06:48] <jon_> sudharsh: what am i looking for
[06:48] <MrObvious> I did what was outlined in the wiki as far as installing the packages for mp3s.
[06:48] <braino> tnnc: pm
[06:49] <VGambit> So hibernation doesn't work at all for anyone? :/
[06:49] <sudharsh> jon_ : just a sec
[06:49] <jon_> sudharsh: ok
[06:50] <MrObvious> VGambit: Never tried.
[06:50] <tnnc> braino i am on there
[06:50] <Leone> HEY
[06:50] <greenman> got a question.
[06:50] <greenman> I'm installing and i have a couple of options
[06:50] <greenman> one is install to hard disk
[06:50] <VGambit> see, I use my laptop in school. having to constantly turn it on and off between classes is very inconvenient.
[06:50] <greenman> and one is install a lamp server
[06:51] <greenman> what's the difference?
[06:51] <Leone> sudharsh, it  doesnt work
[06:51] <MrObvious> Anyone on my question?
[06:51] <sudharsh> jon_: the theme in question, is it locally installed?
[06:51] <sudharsh> Leone: oh...got any errors?
[06:51] <andy> What is a good FTP client for ubuntu
[06:51] <Leone> no
[06:51] <Leone> no errors
[06:52] <sudharsh> Leone: give me the output of ifconfig
[06:52] <jon_> sudharsh: i think so, i never tried doing anything else
[06:52] <flasher> does anybody input text in korean language?
[06:52] <Leone> sudharsh, how can i see the output , sorry i a newbie
[06:52] <tritium> andy: gftp or even nautilus
[06:52] <sudharsh> jon_: hmm..ok 'cd .icons'
[06:52] <sudharsh> Leone: oh sorry..'ifconfig ' in the terminal
[06:53] <greenman> can someone answer my question real quick?  I'm thinking you have to install to the hard disk first then install lamp...
[06:53] <andy> Which would be better?
[06:53] <Fletch229> hello is there a mirror or dload site with old versions of ubuntu available
[06:53] <jon_> sudharsh: i see it in /usr/share/icons
[06:53] <sudharsh> jon_: check whether the troublesome icon theme is sitting there
[06:53] <sudharsh> jon_: oh great...move it to some where else..
[06:53] <jon_> sudharsh: the directory, or the index.theme?
[06:54] <FunnyLookinHat> greenman, I think your question could be best answered in #ubuntu-server   but from what it sounds like, if you are installing with a non-server CD then you ar ecorrect.  Install to the hard disc first, then install LAMP
[06:54] <Leone> sudharsh,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28065/
[06:54] <jon_> sudharsh: thanks
[06:54] <jon_> sudharsh: im pretty sure i got it now
[06:55] <sudharsh> Leone: your ethernet is already up...looks like you are connected
[06:55] <jon_> sudharsh: have a good one
[06:55] <jon_> sudharsh: that was very helpful
[06:55] <sudharsh> jon_: cheers ^_^
[06:55] <Leone> but i cant conect
[06:55] <Leone> can be some permisions?
[06:56] <sudharsh> Leone: ok...what does ;ping 192.168.1.2' do
[06:56] <Jfrench> Can some one please help me, I want to install the Cedega Free Trial, Does it still exist?
[06:56] <greenman> FunnyLookinHat: i'll check there, thanks.
[06:56] <Leone> sudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ping 192.168.1.2
[06:56] <Leone> PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:56] <Leone> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.067 ms
[06:56] <Leone> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.048 ms
[06:56] <greenman> I'm installing with the server cd
[06:56] <sudharsh> Leone: what is the model of your router
[06:56] <sudharsh> Leone: what about 'ping google.com'
[06:57] <Leone> zyxel prestige 600 sudharsh
[06:57] <darnell_> ugh.. enlightenment..
[06:57] <darnell_> how do you install a theme?
[06:57] <Leone> sudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ping google.cl
[06:57] <Leone> PING google.cl (72.14.221.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:57] <Leone> 64 bytes from 72.14.221.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=234 time=232 ms
[06:57] <tritium> Leone: please stop that
[06:58] <Madpilot> Leone, use pastebin rather than pasting to the channel
[06:58] <sudharsh> Leone: hmm..its pinging google...you are connected to the internet...
[06:58] <Leone> sudharsh,  when i tape ping google.cl  in my ubuntu it say  uknow host
[06:58] <Leone> but now i am in live cd
[06:58] <Leone> when i taped it in my ubuntu sesion it say uknow host google.cl
[06:58] <andy> Good night everyone. Thanks for all the help. The second day on Ubuntu was very successful.
[06:58] <Leone> sorry about the flood
[06:58] <darnell_> anyone use enlightenment?
[06:59] <Fletch229> gee thanks for all the help
[06:59] <sudharsh> Leone: er..i guess you want to connect to the internet  from your installed ubuntu box?
[06:59] <Leone> yes
[06:59] <Leone> now i am in my live cd
[07:00] <sudharsh> Leone: what does 'ifconfig eth0 up' do in your ubuntu installed computer
[07:00] <wahyoong84> hey guys, could I ask a quick question regarding repartitioning ubuntu for dual boot?
[07:00] <mike> Hey why cant I install Realplayer from Add/Remove pplications
[07:00] <Leone> sudharsh,  this --> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[07:00] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$
[07:00] <braino> tnnc: you there?
[07:01] <Leone> its looks that all its ok sudharsh
[07:01] <sudharsh> Leone: try 'ping google.com' now on the installed machine now
[07:01] <Leone> i tried sudharsh
[07:01] <Leone> it say uknow host
[07:02] <sudharsh> Leone: even now? after the last command
[07:02] <wahyoong84> when I try to resize my existing windows hard disk from ubuntu to install ubuntu...its stuck there with this blue screen and grey bar at the bottom :(
[07:02] <wahyoong84> and there's no status bar or anything, I'm not sure whether its hung or not :(
[07:02] <sudharsh> i.e ifconfig
[07:02] <Leone> this command sudharsh  sudo ifconfig eth0 up ?
[07:02] <sudharsh> Leone: yes
[07:02] <Leone> yes i wrote it in my installed ubuntu
[07:03] <Leone> and than i tri ping google.cl and it say uknow host
[07:03] <Leone> :S
[07:03] <sudharsh> Leone: hmm...
[07:04] <sudharsh> Leone: just a hunch but most routers have an admin interface running which you can access through your browser
[07:04] <sudharsh> Leone: mostly 192.168.1.1
[07:04] <Leone> so how can i enter?
[07:04] <sudharsh> Leone: so try 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1' in the terminal
[07:05] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[07:05] <Leone> SIOCADDRT: File exists
[07:05] <sudharsh> Leone: oh! now try accessing that url from your browser
[07:05] <Leone> u mean 192.168.1.1 ?
[07:05] <greenman> what's a good partitioning scheme for ubuntu?
[07:06] <greenman> i'm not sure where it puts things
[07:06] <sudharsh> Leone: yes
[07:06] <greenman> i know 1G for swap
[07:06] <^Sarek^> Anybody else here have an Inspiron 640M?
[07:06] <Leone> sudharsh,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28066/
[07:07] <greenman> i have a 160GB drive
[07:07] <Rookie_> dns ?
[07:07] <sudharsh> Leone: no dont ping it...point to 192.168.1.1 from firefox
[07:07] <Madpilot> greenman, 5-10Gb for /, the rest for /home, /swap if you've got less that 1Gb of RAM
[07:07] <Flannel> greenman: /home will contain all of your personal files, and it's a good idea to have it on its own partition, makes reinstalling without losing that stuff a lot easier (painless even), as for the rest, it technically won't hurt to put it all one.  What do you plan on using it for?
[07:08] <greenman> Flannel: Primarily a web-server
[07:08] <Leone> it say " the conection was refused" sudharsh
[07:08] <Flannel> greenman: if youre running a web server/ or whatever, and plan on putting stuff in /var (like /var/www, the web folder), you'll want to give that more room
[07:08] <Flannel> greenman: unless of course you're giving people a public_html sort of thing in their own home dirs
[07:09] <greenman> Flannel: nah :)
[07:09] <sudharsh> Leone: oh..you live cd works and your installed machine doesnt..!! :s
[07:09] <Leone> yes
[07:09] <Leone> thats is
[07:09] <greenman> Flannel: so if I do a small /, like 5-10GB it's not likely to run out?
[07:09] <Flannel> greenman: then you might want to give var it's own, with however much space you want to use (plus some more for normal other /var stuff)
[07:10] <Flannel> greenman: well, depends on how much you plan on putting in /var/www, personally I sometimes host movies, for my LAN, at 4.7gb a pop, 5gb total is a tight fit
[07:10] <Rookie_> for desktop use, boot and swap and root ... those 3 partitions are good enough ...
[07:10] <Trae> Holy cow....  I've been running Ubuntu for what, well over 2 years?  And I've just discovered the add/remove apps tool
[07:10] <Trae> heh
[07:10] <sudharsh> Leone: ok we will try 'sudo pppoeconf' if we are lucky we might get it right
[07:11] <Trae> Has that always been as cool as it is in Edgy?
[07:11] <greenman> does this sound decent?  var = 30G, / = 30G, /home = 100GB
[07:11] <Flannel> greenman: you won't need that much in /
[07:11] <Hilmar> Anyone know how I can add "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/16 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE", to a startup script, I think it shall go to /etc/network/interfaces, but I dont know how
[07:12] <Leone> sudharsh, i put in the live cd console , and it say ,  Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access ....
[07:12] <greenman> Flannel: I like to plan for the future :)  plus, what else am I going to use it for?  I don't have near enough to fill up 100G for /home
[07:12] <sudharsh> Leone: no not in the live cd console...the one with ubuntu installed
[07:12] <greenman> just curious why to keep / small?
[07:13] <Leone> ok sudharsh  i must restart
[07:13] <Leone> wait
[07:13] <Flannel> greenman: no other reason than to not waste it (it'll be empty most of the time)
[07:14] <Trae> how do I get something out of stdout ?  (heh)  { dump                     Dump the current playlist to stdout  }
[07:14] <greenman> Flannel: okay, how about 20, 40, 100?
[07:14] <greenman> that sound better?
[07:14] <greenman> :)
[07:14] <Trae> I'm trying:  charm-quark dump
[07:14] <Trae> If you run gnome and want a kick butt music player try "quark"
[07:14] <Flannel> greenman: is that / /var /home? or /var / /home?
[07:15] <niz_> I've noticed dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig doesn't ask me whether to use the BCI in Eft... anyone know how to enable it?
[07:15] <Trae> I think apt-get install quark
[07:15] <niz_> Do I have to build the package from source now, as in Fedora?
[07:15] <greenman> Flannel: you were right the first time
[07:15] <Flannel> greenman: I've got KDE and gnome installed, and I'm not even using 2.5gb in /
[07:16] <greenman> cool.  thanks for the help
[07:17] <witless> where can i get the apt keys for ubuntu?
[07:17] <totall_6_7> !beryl
[07:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[07:17] <alekz> where can i find the source code of xchat on my filesystem ?
[07:17] <witless> !apt-key
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Flannel> witless: did you generate new sources with source-o-matic?
[07:17] <witless> Flannel: no
[07:17] <Flannel> alekz: you'll have to download them, apt-get source xchat
[07:17] <alekz> thanks Flannel
[07:18] <Flannel> witless: well, if you do, (or at least, 'generate' a list that uses the same repositories) and it'll list the keys for each
[07:18] <Flannel> !easysource
[07:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:20] <greenman> what mount options do you use for /swap?
[07:21] <greenman> anyone?
[07:21] <kal84> hi
[07:21] <greenman> nevermind
[07:21] <greenman> i figured it out
[07:25] <Leone> sudharsh, it didnt work
[07:26] <sudharsh> Leone: oh..ok...sorry mate i thought you were having ubuntu installed in another machine :)
[07:26] <Leone> i got ubuntu in this machine
[07:26] <Leone> but now i am in live cd
[07:27] <sudharsh> Leone: anyway...now we will chroot to your ubuntu installation
[07:27] <Leone> ok
[07:27] <sudharsh> sudharsh: give me the ls of /media
[07:27] <sudharsh> Leone: ls /media
[07:27] <Leone> lol
[07:27] <Leone> :P
[07:27] <Leone> i
[07:28] <Leone> ok
[07:28] <sudharsh> Leone: ?
[07:28] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ls /media
[07:28] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$
[07:29] <Leone> sudharsh,  there is
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> Whassamatta BHSPitLappy?
[07:29] <sudharsh> Leone: ?
[07:29] <Leone> yes
[07:30] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, dapper just went windows on me.
[07:30] <Xaser> Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone might be able to solve my prob that I have. When I try to connect to the internet from ly ubuntu machine I cant while my windows machine can, I had this same prob when I installed fedora. I can ping www.google.com though... any idead?
[07:30] <Leone> sudharsh,  here is ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ ls /media
[07:30] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$
[07:30] <VGambit> how do I patch the kernel with suspend2? x.o
[07:31] <sudharsh> Leone: oh..'mount /dev/<root_of_the_ubuntu_installation> /media'
[07:31] <TGPO> Xaser: ping goes out on a different port than http, check you router/firewall
[07:32] <Xaser> TGPO: my router should be fine as my windows machine can access the net fine?
[07:32] <Leone> sudharsh : ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media
[07:32] <Leone> ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$
[07:33] <sudharsh> Leone: ok great..now 'sudo chroot /media'
[07:33] <TGPO> Xaser: do you have a gateway that you have to go through?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: How so?
[07:33] <Xaser> TPGO: My ADSL modem
[07:33] <Leone> sudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ sudo chroot /media
[07:33] <Leone> root@dhcppc0:/#
[07:34] <TGPO> Xaser: the fact that you can ping out means you have some connectivity but port 80 is blocked for some reason
[07:34] <sudharsh> Leone: now try 'sudo pppoeconf' first
[07:34] <VGambit> where is the kernel tree in ubuntu?
[07:34] <dek> how do I unload the x-server and use Ubuntu in console mode?
[07:34] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, well, the entire screen went unresponsive, my cursor became jittery, and my hard drive LED started flickering incessantly for an indefinite period of time, for no apparent reason (all awhile my music still played)
[07:34] <greenman> okay so i'm in ubuntu.  in all it's command line glory
[07:34] <Leone> sudharsh,  root@dhcppc0:/# sudo pppoeconf
[07:34] <Leone> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[07:34] <Leone> /usr/sbin/pppoeconf: line 439: modconf: orden no encontrada
[07:34] <TGPO> dek ctrl alt f1
[07:35] <greenman> the first thing i need help with is configuring the eth0 connectiong
[07:35] <dek> TGP0: that doesn't unload X Server, only sends me to virtual terminal
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Whacky
[07:35] <sudharsh> Leone: oh! 'sudo ifconfig eth0 up'
[07:35] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, yeah, not exactly what I expected from my stable, LTS system
[07:35] <TGPO> dek login there and then init.d stop gdm
[07:35] <sudharsh> Leone: be patient..:P
[07:36] <gameover> hi
[07:36] <TGPO> dek that kills your xserver
[07:36] <dek> TGPO: what is gdm? Desktop Manager?
[07:36] <Leone> yes sudharsh
[07:36] <Leone> root@dhcppc0:/# sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[07:36] <Leone> root@dhcppc0:/#
[07:36] <gameover> i need some help... i cant access https sites
[07:36] <sudharsh> Leone: try pinging 'ping google.com'
[07:37] <Leone> root@dhcppc0:/# ping google.com
[07:37] <Leone> PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:37] <Leone> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=170 ms
[07:37] <MadCowBoy> gameover what browser?
[07:37] <TGPO> dek gdm/kdm/xdm ect are the logon interface that calls Xserver, kill that and you kill X
[07:37] <gameover> firefox
[07:37] <MadCowBoy> newer install?
[07:37] <gameover> neither amsn
[07:37] <gameover> yep
[07:37] <gameover> firefox and swiftfox
[07:37] <sudharsh> Leone: you are getting connected _from_ your installed ubuntu
[07:38] <gameover> both just re-installed
[07:38] <Leone> i hope
[07:38] <Leone> hey i got a question
[07:38] <sudharsh> Leone: you have chrooted..to it mate..so you are getting conncted from it
[07:38] <greenman> can someone help me set up networking?
[07:39] <MadCowBoy> hang on, I remember a fix that might work (it was awhile ago though) two secs
[07:39] <Leone> so , if i restart now , and enter to my installed ubuntu , i will be conected?
[07:39] <Leone> or not sudharsh ?
[07:39] <dek> TGPO: how do I run the init.d stop gdm command? it doesnt recognize it, and /etc/init.d is a directory
[07:39] <gameover> thanks
[07:39] <abarbaccia> hey all - is the generic kernel in edgy smp?
[07:39] <braino> greenman: whats the problem?
[07:39] <TGPO> dek: one sec
[07:39] <jbroome> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:39] <sudharsh> Leone: dont think so...jus a sec...i ll check where my settigs are sitting
[07:39] <jbroome> abarbaccia: yes
[07:39] <Leone> ok sudharsh , i wait
[07:39] <abarbaccia> sweet!
[07:40] <abarbaccia> thanks
[07:40] <greenman> right now it's dhcp and i need to hard code it in there,
[07:40] <TGPO> dek what jbroome said
[07:40] <dek> TGPO: I think i found it, it should be /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[07:40] <dek> yes
[07:40] <dek> I was searching on forum :P
[07:40] <MadCowBoy> gameover
[07:40] <MadCowBoy> pm me?
[07:40] <TGPO> dek thar she be matey
[07:40] <dek> thanks
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, needless to say, losing the e-mail I was writing, among other pending works really pissed me off
[07:40] <gameover> sorry... what pm means?
[07:41] <MadCowBoy> sorry private message me?
[07:41] <sudharsh> Leone: give me the output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces'
[07:41] <braino> greenman: is your router setup for dhcp?
[07:41] <Leone> sudharsh,  here http://paste.debian.net/15429
[07:42] <greenman> braino, yes, but this is a web server and thus needs static ip.  i know there is a way to give the computer an ip...
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Never fun.  That's the moment you wish you'd enabled auto save in your e-mail client.
[07:42] <greenman> i seem to have misplaced it.
[07:42] <Icomey> Is there anyway I can change a delete a partition in ubuntu?
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, well, it seems GMail's auto-draft works.
[07:42] <MadCowBoy> game over: open firefox...in the address bar type about:config.... are you with me so far?
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> but principally, what happened was wrong
[07:43] <braino> then have your router always assign it the same ip
[07:43] <Xaser> TGPO: when I go to www.canyouseeme.org on my windows machine,it cant find me on port 80, so how would my win machine work?
[07:43] <gameover> MadCowboy?
[07:43] <MadCowBoy> yup?
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Yes.
[07:44] <TGPO> Xaser, looks like you have a software firewall up and you'll have to open port 80
[07:44] <MadCowBoy> gameover: open firefox...in the address bar type about:config.... are you with me so far?
[07:44] <gameover> yes
[07:44] <MadCowBoy> hit enter, in the filter bar type 40
[07:44] <MadCowBoy> press enter
[07:44] <gameover> done
[07:44] <Leone> sudharsh, sis u saw the direction i paste 4 u?
[07:44] <Leone> did*
[07:45] <Xaser> TGPO: on my win machine I do, but unless ubuntu come preinstalled with one not on it
[07:45] <gameover> 4 security variables.. all set to true
[07:45] <MadCowBoy> do you see a variable named security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5
[07:45] <MadCowBoy> should be false right now,
[07:45] <gameover> its true :$
[07:45] <gameover> i should set it to false?
[07:46] <sudharsh> Leone: yes...now add 'auto eth0' after '#primary networkk interface'
[07:46] <MadCowBoy> its what its supposed to be, should be true
[07:46] <TGPO> Xaser, there are only so many places port 80 can be blocked, its its not gateway or router then it has to be OS level
[07:46] <Leone> sudharsh,  ubuntu@dhcppc0:~$ auto eth0
[07:46] <Leone> bash: auto: command not found
[07:46] <sudharsh> Leone: no that was not a command :)
[07:46] <gameover> already true... what else could it be?
[07:46] <MadCowBoy> sorry, I had the same problem, that was the setting change I made to fix it, security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5 False to True
[07:46] <sudharsh> Leone: open uo another terminal
[07:46] <Leone> ahh ok
[07:46] <MadCowBoy> anyone else?
[07:46] <sudharsh> *up
[07:47] <Leone> yes sorry
[07:47] <Leone> :D
[07:47] <Icomey> Is there anyway I can change a delete a partition in ubuntu?
[07:47] <gameover> ok.. thanks anyway
[07:47] <sudharsh> Leone: 'sudo gedit /media/etc/network/interfaces'
[07:47] <TGPO> Icomy: yes parted
[07:47] <Icomey> Okay.
[07:47] <MadCowBoy> what site are you trying to access?
[07:47] <Leone> yes
[07:47] <Leone> ;)
[07:48] <TGPO> Icomy: not wise though
[07:48] <Icomey> It's an unused partition.
[07:48] <Leone> hey , sudharsh  , in what line i must add it?
[07:48] <Leone> sudharsh,  forget it
[07:48] <gameover> gmai
[07:48] <sudharsh> Leone: now add 'auto eth0' before the last line
[07:48] <gameover> gmail
[07:48] <gameover> hotmail
[07:48] <gameover> https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <sudharsh> Leone: anywhere actually
[07:48] <TGPO> Icomy: why not just map it in, in you /etc/fstab
[07:49] <Icomey> I want to delete it so I have a ~100GB empty space available for slack.
[07:49] <Leone> sudharsh,  its ok , # The primary network interface
[07:49] <Leone> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:49] <Leone> auto eth0
[07:49] <sudharsh> Leone: make it
[07:49] <Leone> so its ok sudharsh ?
[07:49] <TGPO> Icomy: *me sees the light*
[07:49] <sudharsh> auto eth0
[07:49] <Leone> ok
[07:49] <Leone> ready
[07:49] <TGPO> Icomy: normally screwing with partitions is a fast way to a headache
[07:50] <sudharsh> Leone: now reboot and tell me whats up
[07:50] <Leone> hey
[07:50] <Leone> look
[07:50] <Leone> http://paste.debian.net/15430
[07:50] <Leone> its ok so?
[07:50] <sudharsh> let auto eth0 before iface eth0 inet dhcp just in case
[07:51] <Leone> ok i will change
[07:51] <Leone> before reset i must umounted?
[07:52] <MadCowBoy> gameover: sorry bud, try and ask again,
[07:52] <Xaser> TPGO: even when I forward port 80 for my ubuntu machine its still not getting anywhere..  do you have any more suggestions?
[07:53] <gameover> its ok.. thanks so much
[07:53] <Xaser> TPGO: I can get to www.canyouseeme.org from ubuntu but still not anywhere else?
[07:53] <TGPO> Xaser: fresh out, mebbe one of the others might have a handle on it
[07:54] <TGPO> Xaser: you can see a website?
[07:54] <Xaser> TGPO: cheers for the attempt. Thanks
[07:54] <gameover> someone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?
[07:54] <Xaser> TGPO: I can see www.canyouseeme.org
[07:55] <Xaser> TGPO: but still not www.google or anythign else
[07:55] <greenman> arg!
[07:55] <TGPO> Xaser: now its getting wierd, you can see one website but no others. thats screwier than a little bit
[07:55] <greenman> i can't get my stupid internet to work, can someone please help me?
[07:56] <MadCowBoy> gameover, what version of firefox, what ubuntu version are you using?
[07:56] <sudharsh> greenman: adsl?
[07:56] <greenman> sudharsh: cable
[07:56] <Xaser> TGPO: LOL  yeah, this is the I had with fedora too
[07:56] <greenman> i'm just trying to configure the stupid eth0.  it's not working
[07:56] <Xaser> greenman: can you connect to www.canyouseeme.org?
[07:57] <TGPO> Xaser: racking my brain ... been to long since I studied the idiot net+ stuff
[07:57] <sudharsh> greenman: even after ifconfig eth0 up
[07:57] <gameover> ubuntu dapper, swiftfox 1.5.0.7
[07:57] <greenman> Xaser, the output of ifconfig eth0 is no IP address.
[07:57] <greenman> sudharsh: yeah
[07:57] <sudharsh> greenman: oh
[07:58] <rbil> greenman, you probably haven't setup the gateway then
[07:58] <TGPO> Xaser: as an expirament, do you have traceroute installed?
[07:58] <greenman> i'm pretty sure i have, this is what i've got
[07:58] <sudharsh> greenman: route add default gw <ip>
[07:58] <greenman> iface eht0 inet static
[07:58] <MadCowBoy> sorry gameover, I'm at a loss,
[07:58] <sudharsh> oh
[07:58] <greenman> address 192.168.1.2
[07:59] <greenman> netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:59] <greenman> gateway address 192.168.1.1
[07:59] <Xaser> TGPO: not by the looks of it
[08:00] <rbil> greenman, did u restart networking after making changes?
[08:00] <TGPO> Xaser: apt-get it and try traceroute a few random websites, see if you can trace out
[08:00] <Xaser> TGPO: yes, from system, network tools
[08:00] <morghanphoenix> Anybody know the packages for glibc 2.2 and GTK+ 1.2?
[08:00] <greenman> i think so, i did an eth0 down and an eth0 up
[08:01] <gameover> someone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?
[08:01] <greenman> hmm...  i think i may have it...
[08:01] <greenman> hmm...
[08:01] <greenman> i have an ip address now, but i can't ping.  network unreachable...
[08:02] <jason_> something messed up my system settings (me likely :P )... I get the following all the time:   Sorry - KDE Panel  >>  Could not find mime type application/octet-stream  <OK>    ---- advice to fix??
[08:02] <Xaser> TGPO: no trace for www.google.com
[08:02] <jason_> oh, good morning everyone :)
[08:02] <jason_> greenman: whats the prob?
[08:03] <rbil> greenman, try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:03] <TGPO> Xaser: this is odd, I just tried tracing and pinging you .. you dont exits (isnt that nice)
[08:03] <greenman> ah.  the route add seems to have done the trick.  okay, networking is working so that's good.
[08:03] <Xaser> TGPO: /cry
[08:03] <greenman> now, don't i need to do some kind of update or something?  see if things need upgrading?
[08:03] <Xaser> TGPO: what addy did you try?
[08:04] <TGPO> 203.87.26.220
[08:04] <Xaser> thats it...
[08:04] <greenman> i have to get my wifes blog back up before i do anything else.
[08:04] <Xaser> TGPO: you should be able to connect to ftp://my addy
[08:05] <Xaser> TGPO: I can get to www.canyouseeme.org but not traceroute it :S
[08:06] <TGPO> Xaser: :?
[08:06] <TGPO> anyone else got an idea for Xaser? this one seems outside me
[08:09] <feet> how do i change the current gtk and qt themes when neither kde or gnome are installed? thanks in advance :)
[08:09] <gameover> someone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> gameover: check your SSL settings
[08:10] <gameover> ??? about:config? you mean? or where?
[08:11] <CarinArr> is there an easy way to make ubuntu use a particular network profile when booting?
[08:12] <gameover> Admiral_Chicago??
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> gameover: are you connected via a proxy?
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> what is your web browser
[08:14] <gameover> nop...
[08:15] <ccooke> feet: there's gtk-theme-switch in universe, which'll do gtk themes without gnome installed
[08:15] <ccooke> feet: there's probably something like it for qt
[08:15] <samuel_lee> hello
[08:16] <gameover> i cant access at my school,
[08:17] <gameover> but its not behind a proxy...  and from windows i have can access
[08:17] <feet> oh cool
[08:17] <feet> thanks ccooke
[08:17] <greenman>  i backed up my mysql installation as a .sql file.  if I load that will that take care of putting the root password back?
[08:17] <greenman> nevermind
[08:17] <feet> qt3-qtconfig is a qt thing ... which doesnt do jack to kde programs =\ ...
[08:18] <Xaser> gameover: can you access www.canyouseeme.org and www.google.com?
[08:18] <gameover> yes
[08:18] <gameover> but no gmail, hotmail. or https sites...
[08:18] <JNeverMind> is it possible to ssh into my ubuntu server machine and get su somehow
[08:19] <feet> oh dear...
[08:20] <feet> how do i change the current gtk+2 theme when gnome is not installed? gtk-theme-switch changed only gtk 1 apps
[08:20] <JNeverMind> sorry im trying to figure out how me (user) can overwrite some html files belonging to another user
[08:20] <JNeverMind> i can only think of su? shit
[08:20] <Tomcat_> JNeverMind: Make it the same group and group writable, or make it world writable. :o
[08:21] <JNeverMind> im such a newb
[08:21] <Lynoure> JNeverMind: sudo works fine, too
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <sudharsh> feet: gtk-theme-switch2
[08:22] <feet> lovely, thankya
[08:22] <feet> no such package
[08:22] <sudharsh> feet: install it :)
[08:22] <feet> i cant, no such package
[08:23] <sudharsh> feet: i am sure thats the command...but dunno what package offers that..jus a se
[08:23] <sudharsh> *sec
[08:23] <feet> oh wait
[08:24] <feet> oh yeh i got it
[08:24] <feet> heh mistyped
[08:24] <sudharsh> :)
[08:25] <gameover> but no gmail, hotmail. or https sites...
[08:25] <JNeverMind> i cant make sudo work over ssh
[08:25] <JNeverMind> maybe its my sshd config ?
[08:25] <JNeverMind> sorry i needto do alot more reading
[08:28] <feet> as long as im asking about interface, how do i shrink the interface font on xmms? its enormous and rather annoying o_o
[08:30] <marcrosoft> what is the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:31] <Rookie_> upgrade, current system - dist-upgrade, new dist
[08:31] <capt-rogers> feet, i am sure it is in there somewhere.....and you can always try 'beep' too. very xmms like.....
[08:31] <capt-rogers> apt-get install beep should work?
[08:32] <feet> yea but a lot slower
[08:32] <feet> well not a lot... but my pc aint the fastest :P
[08:32] <ramus> my boot sequence hangs at 'begin: running /scripts/local-bottom' and /scripts/init-bottom
[08:32] <KenSentMe> How can i see what packages where updated in the last upgrade i did?
[08:34] <huck> Hello, can someone tell me a good IM client for video conferencing?
[08:34] <huck> video chat maybe I should say... I dont need anything really professional
[08:34] <Matsy> Helloooooooo
[08:35] <KenSentMe> huck: i not sure, but i thought aMSN supported video, or you can try Ekiga
[08:35] <rbil> anyone using etherape? It's quite a neat app.
[08:35] <noia> how do I mount an NTFS drive in read-only?
[08:35] <huck> cool, thanks. I'll check those out
[08:35] <Matsy> Noia?:
[08:35] <ArrenLex> !ntfs
[08:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:35] <CarinArr> is there an easy way to make ubuntu use a particular network profile when booting?
[08:35] <Matsy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[08:36] <Matsy> I have a question about DNS.
[08:36] <Matsy> How can I make ubuntu, not make my Router be a DNS server automatically?
[08:36] <capt-rogers> in the old days i used to the the mpg321, or was it mpg123? to play mp3s right from the terminal..so gui at all...it was very cpu friendly.....it was on a 486/33
[08:39] <Matsy> ?
[08:40] <noia> hmm...very handy indeed :)
[08:40] <KenSentMe> Which packages runs the program at System|Administration|Network ?
[08:41] <kholerabb1> How do I change my language?
[08:42] <KenSentMe> kholerabb1: System|Administration|Languagesupport
[08:43] <Matsy> KenSentMe?
[08:43] <Matsy> You mean this?:
[08:43] <Matsy> Wait
[08:43] <Matsy> Nvm
[08:44] <kholerabb1> KenSentMe: I think that just allows you to install new languages and choose default, but I can't seem to actually change this users language :(
[08:46] <KenSentMe> kholerabb1: ah, could be. Then i wouldn't know
[08:46] <kholerabb1> ah, thanks anyway
[08:46] <Matsy> Darn.
[08:46] <bluefox83> how would i make a quick userlist button in xchat to launch mplayer to load and play my local radio station streaming server?
[08:46] <Matsy> This is bugging me >_>
[08:47] <kholerabb1> does ubuntu have a webcam veiwer?
[08:47] <bluefox83> yes
[08:47] <bluefox83> couple
[08:47] <KenSentMe> !webcam
[08:47] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:47] <Matsy> !dns
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <kholerabb1> any preinstalled?
[08:47] <Matsy> :(
[08:48] <bluefox83> no, you need to install them through your package manager
[08:48] <kholerabb1> ok thanks
[08:48] <noia> whats a nice simple stress testing application I can run to perform a burn-in process in linux?
[08:48] <bluefox83> burn has a stress testing flag O.o
[08:49] <noia> bluefox83,  burn?
[08:49] <bluefox83> yes..burn
[08:49] <bluefox83> it's a program you run in terminal
[08:49] <bluefox83> for burning cd's or dvds
[08:51] <chivosolar> oh yeah another xp box has been upgraded to ubuntu
[08:51] <bluefox83> lol
[08:51] <chivosolar> i also ran easyubuntu
[08:51] <bluefox83> upgraded huh?
[08:51] <iLLf8d> anyone know how you set gnomes file browser to open folders in the same window
[08:51] <kholerabb1> Do I need to eject a usb flash drive before removing? is it safe just to pull it?
[08:52] <bluefox83> i prefer to think of it as converted..as it's an entirely different operating system
[08:52] <kholerabb1> iLLf8d: yes, go preferences
[08:52] <Matsy> You can just pull it.
[08:52] <Matsy> But, it's always better ejecting it.
[08:52] <chivosolar> is there a package set for setting up joomla on ubuntu that might be similar to JSAS
[08:52] <timfrost> kholerabb1: If you just pull it, while data is being written, you risk corrupting the files being written
[08:52] <iLLf8d> kholerabb1, prefs what? I don't see it in file management
[08:52] <kholerabb1> iLLf8d: open nautilus, edit>preferences, go to "behaviour", "open window in same window"
[08:52] <bluefox83> usb uses hotplug..it'll recognise when you pull it..wont hurt anything
[08:53] <iLLf8d> ah thanks
[08:53] <Madpilot> kholerabb1, eject is safer
[08:53] <kholerabb1> bluefox83: I remember reading on wikipedia that it could damage the drive if you pulled it while it was writing
[08:53] <sergevn> bluefox83: isn't it wise to always umount the device before removing, also if it's hot pluggable.
[08:54] <chivosolar> bluefox83 perhaps you know how to get a FileMake Client to run under ubuntu
[08:54] <sergevn> :)
[08:54] <kholerabb1> hmmmn, I suppose there must BE a reason why they have the eject there. So I will
[08:54] <bluefox83> ...how the hell did i become the go-to person all of a sudden?
[08:54] <chivosolar> sorry FileMaker Client
[08:54] <purefan> Hello guys! complete amateur here looking for assistance, im trying to install the drivers for my ATI x1600 on ubuntu 6.06 32bits, was pointed to this address: http://eomer.mine.nu/?q=node/20 but when I do: apt-get install fglrx-kernel-src fglrx-driver I get : E: Couldn't find package fglrx-kernel-src is it safe to go on or what should I do?
[08:54] <chivosolar> bluefox83 you bust be openly chatty or something
[08:54] <bluefox83> of course it'll damage it if you do it while it's writing to it..
[08:55] <bluefox83> wait till it's done, then pull it
[08:55] <chivosolar> purefan: do a search for easyubuntu and use that to install the ati drivers
[08:55] <sergevn> bluefox83: ok thx.
[08:55] <purefan> chivosolar: thanks mate im on it :D
[08:55] <chivosolar> !joomla
[08:55] <kholerabb1> I'll just eject, 'cuase then I wont accidentally get carried away and pull it while its writing :)
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <agonified> hello everybody
[09:00] <Matsy> Hello agonified
[09:00] <agonified> i ve got a problem
[09:00] <variant> lol, the "unix guru" at my job is a noob, i was talking to him about why he doesnt use the old sun spark boxes which we have and he says "linux stopped supporting spark cpus with version 7.1"!!!!
[09:00] <variant> thats when i stopped talking to him
[09:00] <Matsy>  LOLOL
[09:00] <Matsy> >_>
[09:01] <boink> variant: why use linux on sunhardware?
[09:01] <mneptok> i wonder if he spells it "SPARC," though ;)
[09:01] <boink> SunOS  10 works quite well
[09:01] <variant> boink: because sol sucks
[09:01] <jaaay> hi ppl. can someone help me? I need to configure my NIC to force=10baseT-FD at boot time
[09:01] <agonified> this night when I tried to login my local ubuntu, I just see Xdmcp login screen not my gdm greeting screen to type my username/password
[09:01] <boink> like SVM ?
[09:01] <agonified> how can I fix it?
[09:01] <variant> jaaay: you want full duplex?
[09:01] <boink> what's the linux equiv of SVM? if you have some D-1000?
[09:02] <jaaay> variant, yeah, especially 10baseT. I use mii-tool now, but it reverts at boot
[09:02] <variant> jaaay: ethtool
[09:02] <boink> linux is getting there on sparc, but it has a long way to go
[09:02] <variant> boink: no way!
[09:02] <variant> bsd pwns on spark anyway
[09:02] <chivosolar> hmmmm whats this   ISPconfig i just  read about - is that an ubuntu server manager ??
[09:02] <boink> again, about D-1000? SVM? answer me on that?
[09:03] <variant> boink: me? i have no idea, that a tape drive?
[09:03] <jaaay> variant, will it change permanently?
[09:03] <purefan> ok now ive downloaded the EasyUbuntu and as the page said I copy&pasted:" wget http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add - " now I got a " saved [2415/2415]  " so it looks like its all done, but the terminal isnt finished working, like it is still blinking but without the normal prompt and like running the program still, is this normal? should I go on? [[ please bare...
[09:03] <purefan> ...with me im a real novice on ubuntu...] ] 
[09:03] <variant> jaaay: not sure, lemmy check
[09:03] <boink> variant: example .. know what you're talking about.
[09:03] <variant> boink: I am talking about a really old sun box here
[09:03] <boink> for a museum? ok
[09:04] <variant> boink: the point is, i may not know a lot, but it's more than our "linux guru"
[09:04] <zoidberg> hey guys how do you change the language in GNOME desktop?
[09:04] <variant> zoidberg: select your language on the login screen
[09:05] <ictoanthbty> i dont know if this has been asked before or what, or if im not supposed to ask about it,
[09:05] <ictoanthbty> but is edgy available anywhere yet
[09:05] <purefan> oops nevermind on that one ;)
[09:06] <Flannel> ictoanthbty: edgy will be released on the 26th
[09:06] <ictoanthbty> *sighs* alright. ill be patient.
[09:06] <Flannel> ictoanthbty: well, you can get edgy RC1 currently, and upgrade to the final when it arrives (and help find bugs in the meantime)
[09:07] <ictoanthbty> :P here in aust we have things called internet quotas
[09:07] <ictoanthbty> i dont want to download it twice
[09:07] <CarinArr> does anyone know where the location profiles in the network admin are saved?
[09:07] <CarinArr> just it's dead slow so would be nice to edit by hand
[09:07] <purefan> CAWABONGA!! Easyubuntu is working its magic!
[09:07] <chivosolar> kewl
[09:08] <variant> jaaay: yeah you need to put it in a startup script
[09:08] <jaaay> aha variant, newbie question: how do you do that? :)
[09:08] <fr3ddy-fr3sh> hi folks. is there ff and thunderbird on the ubuntu disk??
[09:08] <Matsy> Yes.
[09:09] <variant> jaaay: make a simple two liner text file and shove it in /etc/init.d/
[09:09] <variant> jaaay: then do update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[09:09] <variant> jaaay: the script need to have +x
[09:09] <variant> so chmod +x scriptname
[09:09] <zoidberg> guys how do i change the display language in GNOME...i didnt see it in the login screen
[09:09] <jaaay>  let's try
[09:10] <purefan> im going to restart, seems like just thats left now to get the 3D acceleration working :)
[09:10] <purefan> brb
[09:10] <superman> Hey, who cares.
[09:10] <superman> I don't
[09:10] <superman> Good.
[09:10] <zoidberg> can someone help me please
[09:10] <boink> !ask
[09:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:10] <zoidberg>  how do i change the display language in GNOME...i didnt see it in the login screen
[09:10] <superman> HEY SHUT UP
[09:10] <superman> NOW.
[09:10] <Madpilot> superman, cool it.
[09:10] <Matsy> !ask How can I remove the automatic DNS resolving?
[09:10] <variant> zoidberg: we hear you first time
[09:10] <mneptok> zoidberg: system -> admin -> language support
[09:11] <variant> superman: no need to shout
[09:11] <superman> Cool what?
[09:11] <Matsy> >_>
[09:11] <superman> But I have the need for speed.
[09:11] <noia> I feel the need...
[09:11] <Madpilot> superman, be polite, or leave. Thanks.
[09:11] <Matsy> The need for speed
[09:11] <noia> :D
[09:11] <Matsy> XD
[09:11] <superman> Okay, thanks.
[09:11] <superman> Madpilot, thanks.
[09:12] <Matsy> Wtf.
[09:12] <Matsy> How come mneptok ?
[09:12] <noia> lol
[09:12] <superman> laaawl.
[09:12] <ictoanthbty> yesh i dont get it :/
[09:12] <superman> lollercoasters.
[09:17] <superman> HEY
[09:17] <superman> ANYONE HERE?
[09:17] <zoidberg> hey guys....
[09:17] <superman> Hey gays.
[09:17] <zoidberg> so i just went to system<administration<lang support and applied the language that i wanted to use
[09:17] <zoidberg> then i logged out of teh sesstion
[09:18] <zoidberg> and logged in again and couldnt find a a way to change the lanugage in GNOME?
[09:18] <superman> OH MY GAWD.
[09:18] <zoidberg> can someone help me
[09:19] <Madpilot> superman, last warning. You are not being helpful.
[09:20] <salatkuh> gngbng!
[09:20] <osfameron> morning
[09:20] <zoidberg> can someone help me switch languages in my GNOME display...i already installed the language support
[09:20] <osfameron> how do I go about resolving problems with my laptop swapping (usually when viewing an SVG file in Firefox or Opera) ?
[09:20] <osfameron> I don't even know where to start :-)
[09:22] <osfameron> !swap
[09:22] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[09:24] <osfameron> hmmm, maybe the problem is that I *don't* have a swap file?
[09:25] <osfameron> but that wouldn't explain why when top shows the memory us is 100%, the disk freezes up and all I can do is button it off unsafely
[09:25] <cafuego> osfameron: Depends on what happens in terms of the kernel randomly killing apps to free memory (coz thats what it'll do)
[09:26] <osfameron> cafuego: well, when Inkscape and Sodipodi were having trouble, the kernel quite happily killed those
[09:26] <cafuego> oom-killer strikes!
[09:26] <osfameron> cafuego: whereas with Opera and Firefox it just chugs away alarmingly
[09:26] <osfameron> oom?
[09:26] <cafuego> osfameron: Well, you can give it some swap and see if it makes a difference.
[09:26] <osfameron> out of memory
[09:26] <cafuego> Out Of Memory
[09:26] <osfameron> ok!
[09:26] <cafuego> 's what it's called
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:21]  <mrflava69> hey pplz
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:21]  <mrflava69> i was wondering
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:22]  <mrflava69> i ran ubuntu 6.06 on my p3 866
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:22]  <mrflava69> and it doesnt recognise my usb adsl d-link modem
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:22]  <mrflava69> any reasons why?
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:22]  <mrflava69> is it cos i booted it up off the cd instead of the harddrive?
[09:26] <mrflava69> [17:24]  <mrflava69> any1 here?
[09:27] <osfameron> aha! the tutorial mentions the "free" command at the *end*, that makes sense :-)
[09:27] <cafuego> mrflava69: You pasted. You are a bad person.
[09:27] <mrflava69> lol
[09:27] <osfameron> rarr!  no swap
[09:27] <Madpilot> mrflava69, thanks for the spam
[09:27] <mrflava69> sorry i cbb retypin it all
[09:27] <mrflava69> no it aint spam
[09:27] <thoreauputic> mrflava69, grrrrr
[09:27] <mrflava69> i want sum1 to give me a answer
[09:27] <cafuego> osfameron: just swap to a file, not  apartition.
[09:27] <thoreauputic> mrflava69, wrong tactic
[09:27] <noia> cafuego, you have any idea how slow programming would be without copy paste? hehe
[09:27] <Madpilot> mrflava69, that could have easlily been one line, instead of 7...
[09:27] <cafuego> mrflava69: coz dlink doidn't provide specs, so nobody can write a free driver.
[09:27] <mrflava69> any1 no why it doesnt recognise my dlink modem?
[09:27] <mrflava69> oh i c
[09:28] <mrflava69> so u sayn
[09:28] <mrflava69> if i wanna use my net wit linux i gotta get a diff modem?
[09:28] <osfameron> cafuego: that's what the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq suggest
[09:28] <osfameron> I wonder why I installed without a swap file?  silly me
[09:28] <cafuego> mrflava69: Well, there *may* be a non-mainline driver, but probably yes. (Ethernet modems don't have this issue, but do require you to have a free ethernet connection)
[09:28] <boink> which d-link modem?
[09:29] <cafuego> osfameron: beer
[09:29] <ukubuntu>  A small questio for you early burds! I am finding in both firefox and konqueror on ubuntu  with kubuntu on top, that sending mail from a web page like http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_3990000/newsid_3993900/3993909.stm gives the following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28073/
[09:29] <osfameron> cafuego: mmmmm, beer
[09:29] <mrflava69> umm the dsl-200
[09:29] <mrflava69> the little crappy modem
[09:29] <boink> that's an usb modem, right?
[09:29] <mrflava69> always stuffs up unda windows too
[09:30] <mrflava69> yer
[09:30] <boink> you have the right drivers for it?
[09:30] <cafuego> mrflava69: the v1 of that possibly works, the v2 does not (afaik)
[09:30] <ictoanthbty> mrflava69 i have the same modem
[09:30] <ictoanthbty> mrflava69 i use eciadsl
[09:30] <S0me1> osfameron: swap partation better than swap file
[09:30] <boink> are there linux drivers for the dsl-200?
[09:30] <S0me1> and faster
[09:30] <mrflava69> do u fink its cos i ran it off the cd?
[09:30] <ictoanthbty> boink yes there are
[09:30] <boink> good
[09:30] <ictoanthbty> mrflava69 no, the drivers dont come with any linux
[09:30] <osfameron> S0me1: eeeek!  Conflicting information!  Cannot process! <LOGIC ERROR>
[09:30] <boink> google: dsl-200 ubuntu
[09:30] <cafuego> osfameron: In terms of reasons why you forgot to add swap: too much beer ;-)
[09:31] <ictoanthbty> you need to download the drivers for the modem
[09:31] <jaaay> hey variant, well, it didn't seem to help :(
[09:31] <ictoanthbty> you used to have to complile them too....
[09:31] <ictoanthbty> so you cant easily get them working with ubuntu
[09:31] <osfameron> cafuego: mmmm, bee... oh, yes, I got that :-)  I think it was probably me just clicking on "yeah, whatever" through the installation process actually :-)
[09:31] <boink> did you install the dsl-200 drivers as a module?
[09:31] <Killgore> hey im having some problems with getting opengl under my ati card
[09:31] <ictoanthbty> seeing as it usually doesnt come with gcc :/
[09:31] <mrflava69> na i didnt install anything
[09:31] <boink> !build-essential
[09:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:31] <mrflava69> i just ran the cd and booted off that
[09:31] <cafuego> speaking of beer
[09:31] <mrflava69> it didnt even mount my hd
[09:32] <penzo> I have problem with tracepath in edgy eft. When I try  "tracepath [host ip] " i get 1:  send failed
[09:32] <penzo>      Resume: pmtu 65535
[09:33] <Killgore> is there an ATi channel?
[09:33] <Killgore> !ati
[09:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <fickleflame> hello
[09:33] <ictoanthbty> boink linking to Build-essential doesnt help, because you need net access to download the tools to build your net drivers xD
[09:33] <ArrenLex> Killgore: yes, there is an #ati channel.
[09:33] <ictoanthbty> do you see the catch22
[09:34] <Eliseth> Hey guys, I need help... DESPARATELY
[09:34] <ArrenLex> !ask
[09:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:34] <mrflava69> so is it cos i ran it of the cd dat it didnt mount my hd or wat?
[09:35] <Killgore> ...
[09:35] <ictoanthbty> mrflava69.. is the hd an ntfs partition?
[09:35] <black_13> anyone up
[09:35] <mrflava69> ye
[09:35] <mrflava69> it has to be the other type yer?
[09:35] <mrflava69> 2 mount it
[09:35] <ictoanthbty> mrflava69 no.. perhaps it just didnt do it.
[09:35] <black_13> i amtrying to build a package by soruce and it says i need xorg includes
[09:36] <gebruiker> How do I set my mouse speed in gnome?
[09:36] <ictoanthbty> mrflava69 you can mount ntfs in 6.06.. did you try manually?
[09:36] <purefan> hey guys, Ive just used EasyUbuntu to install the drivers for my ati video card, restarted but dont know how can I test if its working now, I remember there was a command but cant tell if its the one im thinking...
[09:36] <ictoanthbty> purefan which command are you thinking?
[09:36] <ArrenLex> black_13: apt-get install xlibs-dev
[09:36] <black_13> thanks
[09:36] <ArrenLex> purefan: glxgears? glxheads?
[09:36] <purefan> its like: fglrx
[09:37] <ArrenLex> purefanL fglrxinfo
[09:37] <ArrenLex> :
[09:37] <mrflava69> na i wudnt have a clue how to mount it manually
[09:37] <purefan> cool! ok, now I can see im still on MESA instead of the ATI, so I guess the easyubuntu didnt work...
[09:38] <BlueEagle> !mount
[09:38] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:38] <ictoanthbty> someone link mrflava69 to a mounting tut
[09:38] <ictoanthbty> thx
[09:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell mrflava69 about u
[09:38] <black_13> i have been supply a kernel by the company that makes mother board im use its a 2.6.10 but kubuntu is later
[09:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell mrflava69 about mount
[09:38] <ictoanthbty> ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:39] <mrflava69> ye i realised lol
[09:39] <black_13> i worried about the linux headers
[09:39] <arcad3> hi
[09:39] <BlueEagle> black_13: Is there any particular reason that makes you want to use the kernel provided by the mobo company over the one supplied by ubuntu?
[09:39] <BlueEagle> !hi
[09:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:40] <ictoanthbty> does anyone know which kernel edgy uses
[09:40] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ictoanthbty about anyone
[09:40] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ictoanthbty about edgy
[09:41] <thoreauputic> ictoanthbty, 2.6.17-10 I think
[09:41] <ArrenLex> ictonathbty: uname -r will tell you.
[09:41] <purefan> one more question: how can I make sure I have the "universe" and "multiuniverse" repositories enabled?
[09:41] <fickleflame> On Ubuntu server, is there a way to set the monitor to not time out?
[09:41] <ArrenLex> !repositories
[09:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:41] <ictoanthbty> ArrenLex: waiting for edgy release before using linux ;)
[09:41] <ArrenLex> Ah.
[09:41] <BlueEagle> fickleflame: As in disabling the screen saver?
[09:41] <fickleflame> BlueEagle: yes
[09:41] <black_13> BlueEagle they wont provide the source for there drivers
[09:41] <ArrenLex> black_13: their *
[09:42] <thoreauputic> fickleflame, setterm will do it - something like setterm -blank 0 from memory ( man setterm)
[09:42] <fickleflame> thanx
[09:42] <black_13> yeah i have problems spelling
[09:42] <BlueEagle> black_13: Any particular drivers that you need that is not provided in the standard kernel?
[09:42] <samw> I have an idea maybe ubuntu could become "charity ware" like vim is and thereby help some poor people in addition to providing good quality software free of charge.  just to encourage us to donate to a project helping poor people in the so-called 3rd world, free software is not very relevant if you have nothing to eat.  any thoughts?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> fickleflame, I assume you are running without X
[09:42] <nomin> what usually is the path to the ethernet card?  I need to tell a net monitoring applet what to monitor.
[09:43] <Killgore> !restriced
[09:43] <Killgore> !restricted
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <black_13> BlueEagle yeah this is motherboard used by the gaming indusstry and had special drivers for security the mobo company is worry about there info ...
[09:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <black_13> BlueEagle so they give out the kernel modules and a kernel
[09:43] <black_13> thats it
[09:43] <Killgore> ok what about restricted drivers
[09:43] <ictoanthbty> hmm.
[09:43] <ictoanthbty> will a package for hoary work under edgy
[09:44] <Killgore> i think i might have added something to do with ati drivers
[09:44] <ictoanthbty> or do you need to know specifics to answer that :/
[09:44] <superman> Hey, where's that op?
[09:44] <purefan> good bot ubotu :)
[09:44] <Juzzy> Question: If I use the Ubuntu 6.06.1 DVD to install, can I just upgrade it to 6.10 when it comes out, or do I have to re-download the DVD?
[09:44] <fickleflame> You can upgrade
[09:44] <BlueEagle> fickleflame: system->settings->screen saver and un-check the "Activate screen saver when the session is inactive"
[09:44] <ictoanthbty> you can upgrade ^^
[09:45] <BlueEagle> fickleflame: I think that should do the trick. :)
[09:45] <Juzzy> Thank you!
[09:45] <fickleflame> BlueEagle: I did seterm -blank
[09:45] <black_13> the have given me kernel 2.6.10 sources that have indicate that i build to get the kernel headers i guess
[09:45] <thoreauputic> BlueEagle, I assume since this is the server install, that he doesn't have X or gnome
[09:45] <fickleflame> BlueEagle: setterm -blank
[09:45] <fickleflame> Thanks
[09:45] <fickleflame> bye the way
[09:45] <samw> ok bye y'all .. my email is swatkins AT fastmail.fm
[09:46] <BlueEagle> thoreauputic: Ahh, I didn't see that. :)
[09:46] <thoreauputic> BlueEagle, :)
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me how to write a regexp that will include all forms of string1 and string1+* _except_ string1+suffix1?
[09:47] <black_13> if i have to use there kernel how do use succesfully with gcc-4.0 and do kernels headers matter?
[09:47] <nomin> any xfce users in here?
[09:47] <superman> I can tell you how to shut the fuck up.
[09:47] <pepsiman> How do I fix "Unable to find swap-space signature"?
[09:47] <BlueEagle> nomin: You might want to try #Xubuntu for xfce questions. :)
[09:47] <BHSPitLappy> !ops
[09:47] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:47] <purefan> one more.... after adding the multi/universe repositories when refreshing it tells me: "W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718", so is it not successful? or what should I do now? [ :( ] 
[09:47] <ArrenLex> black_13: apt-get install build-essential should set you up.
[09:47] <nomin> BlueEagle, ok.  Thanks.
[09:48] <black_13> arrenlex yep i got that
[09:48] <Madpilot> DBO, beat me to it - he got several warnings.
[09:48] <BHSPitLappy> thanks, ops
[09:48] <black_13> Arrenlex they (the mobo) company built all this on debian sarge but its hopelessly out of date and many of the tools i need (want) wont compile on sarge
[09:49] <ArrenLex> black_13: whoa, wait, what are you trying to do? I wasn't here for that part.
[09:49] <ArrenLex> purefan: apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[09:49] <black_13> ArrenLex you want the who story in three part harmony?
[09:50] <ictoanthbty> no one in ubuntu+1 likes to answer this:
[09:50] <ictoanthbty> does point-to-point protocol daemon (ppp) come with edgy eft? or any ubuntu for that matter?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ictoanthbty, of course
[09:50] <purefan> ArrenLex: its giving me "Couldnt find package Ubuntu" :S
[09:51] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[09:51] <ArrenLex> purefan: the package is ubuntu-keyring
[09:51] <thoreauputic> ictoanthbty, otherwise dialup wouldn't work, for example
[09:51] <BHSPitLappy> purefan, and capitalization matters (lowercase!)
[09:51] <purefan> <insert Homer's DUH!! here>
[09:52] <purefan> hehe :p ok got now: ubuntu-keyring is already the newest version.
[09:52] <ictoanthbty> thanks guys, didnt know
[09:52] <ictoanthbty> bye everyone
[09:52] <mneptok> ictoanthbty: what does not exist is sl-modem-daemon or any other Winmodem stuff.
[09:52] <mneptok> ah well
[09:52] <purefan> bye ictoanthbty :)
[09:53] <thoreauputic> maybe he asked the wrong question :)
[09:53] <watson540> hello, can anyone tell me  why it is that everythig about my connection to the internet is blazing fast...other than my web surfing. it takes forever to look up the web pages and finally cnnect to them! lthough once i am connected the loading of the site goes fairly quick, it just takes way to long to find and resolve web  sites, does anyone know? is this a modem issue (DSL) or maybe an OS issue? because when i had cable inter
[09:53] <purefan> actually me too im offnow, 2am and need to rest, will try some more in the morning, thank you all guys!! this is awesome!  :D
[09:54] <watson540> is it possible my ISP 'blocks' port 80 for some reeason?!
[09:54] <watson540> i have no firewall btw
[09:54] <BHSPitLappy> watson540, no, that's an impossible assumption.
[09:54] <ArrenLex> watson540: yes.
[09:54] <syntaxx> anyone good at iptables? im can't connect to mirc when i launch my rules
[09:54] <thoreauputic> watson540, more likely dns or maybe an ipv6 issue
[09:54] <BlueEagle> watson540: firefox?
[09:54] <ArrenLex> BHSPitLappy: there are several ISPs that don't want their customers to run webservers without paying extra. It's quite possible.
[09:54] <watson540> npt blocked but, something else
[09:54] <watson540> ya know?
[09:54] <BHSPitLappy> ArrenLex, OUTGOING PORT 80
[09:54] <syntaxx> s/im/i
[09:55] <BHSPitLappy> a.k.a. TEH INTARWEB
[09:55] <BlueEagle> watson540: Are you using firefox to browse the web?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> nobody blocks outgoing port 80 :)
[09:55] <ArrenLex> ...I see.
[09:55] <BHSPitLappy> excuse my shouting.
[09:55] <ArrenLex> That's different. xD
[09:55] <watson540> maybe they have their port 80 firewalled or something so the dns lookups take longer?
[09:55] <Paladine> hey folks
[09:55] <mneptok> i wish Ubuntu would block incoming <capslock>
[09:55] <thoreauputic> heh
[09:55] <watson540> mneptok:: heh
[09:55] <ArrenLex> WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?!
[09:55] <mneptok> watson540: sounds like DNS vs. Firefox
[09:55] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, ...you...
[09:55] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[09:55] <ArrenLex> THE LETTERS ARE ALL BIG SO YOU CAN READ THem. Okay, that's enough.
[09:55] <Paladine> anyone know how I can make ubuntu not mount my xd card as utf8? it junks everything up
[09:55] <watson540> mneptok:: well i have tried other browsers to no avail
[09:56] <ukubuntu> I think I will post on forums
[09:56] <mneptok> watson540: have you tried changing DNS servers?
[09:56] <BHSPitLappy> you can mount a filesystem as utf?
[09:56] <BlueEagle> watson540: Have you disabled ipv6?
[09:56] <watson540> more than anything, its just plain annoying :), i like my web pages .. (no, not pr0n)
[09:56] <Paladine> this is howit is mounting at the moment /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[09:56] <drivera90> there's other webpages?
[09:56] <drivera90> what are they of?
[09:56] <drivera90> :/
[09:56] <Commander-Crowe> watson540 just get lynx
[09:56] <watson540> mneptok:: hmm changing dns servers eh, how would i know what dns server to change to? do i do that through the m odem/ghey router?
[09:56] <BHSPitLappy> ha
[09:56] <Paladine> so all my file names look like this  |>.5?m
[09:56] <thoreauputic> watson540, as BlueEagle suggests, try dissabling ipv6 in about:config on firefox
[09:56] <mneptok> no need for lynx. w3m is installed by default.
[09:57] <BHSPitLappy> Paladine, are you sure you don't just have some catastrophic volume errors?
[09:57] <watson540> Commander-Crowe:: as i said, i have tyried other browsers (lynx inbcluded) so know, text mode doesnt fix everything :)
[09:57] <BHSPitLappy> massive file corruption, eh
[09:57] <Paladine> noitis just a digital camera card
[09:57] <BHSPitLappy> s/know/no/
[09:57] <Commander-Crowe> watson540 what are you trying to do?
[09:57] <BlueEagle> paladine: try altering the iocharset to the one that has been used. ie. iso8859-1 or similar
[09:58] <thoreauputic> watson540, are your nameservers properly set in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[09:58] <syntaxx> anyone good at iptables? i can't connect to mirc when i launch my rules http://pastebin.ca/218608 can somebody tell me what im missing?
[09:58] <mneptok> watson540: try using 204.60.0.2 and 204.60.0.3 as DNS servers and see what you get
[09:58] <watson540> Commander-Crowe:: instead of me repeating myself as you jump into the middle of a convo, hows-about you scroll up a lil through your backlog :)
[09:58] <Paladine> I am not entirely sure what the iocharset should be and I don't have a windows machine to check it
[09:58] <mneptok> mIRC?
[09:58] <mneptok> ugh
[09:58] <Commander-Crowe> watson540 cuz I just loggedin
[09:58] <watson540> mneptok:: ok i wll try that, thanks, ima go into this router and change it
[09:59] <watson540> Commander-Crowe:: aww, sorry then, my web connection is slow, only wweb pages, they take forever to look up
[09:59] <BlueEagle> syntaxx: For setting up iptables I really recomend using the shorewall firewall. As for IRC it uses port 6667
[09:59] <watson540> mneptok:: but then again my irc connections happen like super fast, doesnt that use dns also?
[09:59] <nomin> watson540, I have the same problem sometimes.  For me it depends on the website.  I think macromedia uses up a LOT of processing power.
[09:59] <mneptok> watson540: the addresses may be cached
[09:59] <syntaxx> BlueEagle, ok thanks
[09:59] <BHSPitLappy> watson540, not necessarily
[10:00] <watson540> mneptok:: i see
[10:00] <nomin> watson540, do you use myspace alot?
[10:00] <watson540> brb gonna try those dns's
[10:00] <thoreauputic> syntaxx, that's a pretty fearsomely restrictive policy :) And you might need to allow port 6667 I think ( but I'm no expert)
[10:00] <watson540> nomin:: no
[10:00] <BHSPitLappy> watson540, that probably just happens upon connecting to IRC
[10:00] <mneptok> syntaxx: you need to allow incoming/outgoing to/from 6667
[10:00] <thoreauputic> right
[10:00] <watson540> i use slashdot and other news sites, and i dont use macromedia that often
[10:00] <syntaxx> ok thanks a bunch
[10:01] <nomin> this page uses up a lot of the processor:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11098797/
[10:01] <nomin> I have a 2.8 GHz P4 with 500MB ram and that site is very slow on linux
[10:01] <BlueEagle> syntaxx: oh, and many many webmin modules are outdated.
[10:02] <watson540> mneptok:: hrm, well. i just checked it out, and per verizons settings (and according to their websit) the dns servers are 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2
[10:02] <greenman> dangit now superman is on #mysql
[10:02] <thoreauputic> anyting with wall - to wall flash = huge CPU use
[10:02] <watson540> i have it set to static
[10:02] <syntaxx> BlueEagle, im using the latest stable release of webmin though
[10:02] <mneptok> syntaxx: do me a favor?
[10:02] <syntaxx> mneptok, if i can ^^
[10:02] <kippi> hey
[10:02] <BlueEagle> syntaxx: Still it's way outdated. That's one of the reasons it was removed from the repositories afail.
[10:02] <BlueEagle> afaik*
[10:03] <Commander-Crowe> watson540 um? DNS servers usually arn't like that
[10:03] <bun-bun> nomin# install the NoScript plugin for firefox
[10:03] <mneptok> syntaxx: mIRC is crap. try jIRCii. it runs on both Windows and Linux. it's a Rolls-Royve to mIRC's Yugo. - http://jirc.hick.org  :)
[10:03] <kippi> I am getting this error: zenoss is not allowed to run sudo on network. how can I allow it to sudo?
[10:03] <Commander-Crowe> watson540 have you tried DHCP?
[10:04] <watson540> yeah i would say that resolving ANY dns takes forever, come to think of it mneptok is right that irssi caches the addy's, cause it took me forever just to send an email through verizons own servers earlier
[10:04] <mneptok> "points," too.
[10:04] <syntaxx> mneptok, im using xchat though but ill try to use it
[10:04] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:04] <watson540> even connecting to verizons page takes forever and they're my isp!
[10:04] <S0me1> GnoTime http://applications.linux.com/applications/06/10/09/1631208.shtml?tid=99
[10:04] <BlueEagle> salatkuh: That's just plain annoying. :/
[10:04] <nomin> bun-bun:  ok, I'll look into that.
[10:04] <Commander-Crowe> watson540 have you tried using a livecd and see what happens?
[10:04] <mneptok> syntaxx: the nice thing is that jIRCii runs *exactly* the same on Windows, Linux, and OSX. and is 100% free.
[10:04] <thoreauputic> salatkuh, do not ctcp version the whole channel
[10:04] <salatkuh> okay
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, wow, xchat is great, isn't it! oh, wait, that's not what you said...
[10:05] <mneptok> BHSPitLappy: please, i'm trying to eat over here .... ;)
[10:05] <thoreauputic> salatkuh, in fact, in general don't ctcp version people unless you really need to ( you hardly ever need to know people's client type)
[10:06] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, whatever you place into that evil mouth of yours is none of my interest
[10:07] <mneptok> BHSPitLappy: mostly frozen dinners and the flesh of the unrighteous.
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> ah.
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> how do your parents taste?
[10:08] <mneptok> they don't. they were killed in a car accident when i was 3. thanks for bringing it up.
[10:08] <BlueEagle> bhspitlappy: I would assume with their toungs...</offtopic>
[10:08] <arcade> Just want to say 'Thank you' if Edgy Eft is released on the 26th . :)
[10:08] <arcade> (It's my birthday!  An excellent birthday present! :)
[10:09] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, that was a profound mood killer :/
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> arcade: It will, so happy birthday!
[10:10] <zen2> hey all how do i see what hapened to my swap drive i dont seem to have one atm
[10:10] <mneptok> BHSPitLappy: and i wasn't even serious.
[10:10] <greenman> okay, i need to install something and I never have before, can someone help me?  I need to install fluxbox
[10:10] <mneptok> BHSPitLappy: pwned.
[10:10] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, I could tell.
[10:10] <arcade> tonyyarusso: Great! :)
[10:10] <BHSPitLappy> mood-killer, nonetheless
[10:10] <thoreauputic> greenman,  sudo aptitude install fluxbox  :)
[10:10] <zen2> hey all how do i see what hapened to my swap drive i dont seem to have one atm and i need to see where it went
[10:10] <zen2> or get it back
[10:10] <thoreauputic> !fluxbox
[10:10] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:10] <BlueEagle> greenman: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:10] <mneptok> BHSPitLappy: you should try a full head latex Ernest Borgnine mask during sex. *that's* a mood killer.
[10:10] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, although it would explain those intimacy issues.
[10:11] <zen2> maybe its a mod enhancer
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> mneptok, you speak as if from experience
[10:11] <mneptok> "as if?"
[10:11] <BlueEagle> bhspitlappy, mneptok #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:11] <gbu> Hello.In sudo nano /etc/modules how do we save our changes?
[10:11] <Seveas> errr, mneptok BHSPitLappy !language and !offtopic
[10:11] <greenman> apt-get vs. aptitude.  One minute, and GO!
[10:11] <mneptok> there's no uncertainty.
[10:11] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic is that way ---->>>
[10:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:11] <Seveas> wow, 3 in a row ;)
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> hehe
[10:11] <gameover> someone else know why i cant access gmail, hotmail, connect to amsn, or https sites?
[10:11] <Seveas> gbu, ctrl+o
[10:11] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a good resume writer for Ubuntu?
[10:12] <BHSPitLappy> sorry, I lose sight of which tab I'm on.
[10:12] <mneptok> gameover: port 443 blocked?
[10:12] <zen2> hey all how do i see what hapened to my swap drive i dont seem to have one atm and i need to see where it went
[10:12] <BlueEagle> gameover: Have you installed firestarter or other firewalling software?
[10:12] <Davo_Dinkum> Something with templetes?
[10:12] <gameover> nop...
[10:12] <gameover> no firewall
[10:12] <BHSPitLappy> zen2, what makes you think you don't have one
[10:12] <bun-bun> Davo_Dinkum# i believe open office writer has templates
[10:12] <greenman> E: Couldn't find package fluxbox
[10:12] <zen2> system said so in the startup screen
[10:12] <greenman> what does that mean?
[10:13] <BHSPitLappy> zen2, System>Admin>gnome partition editor
[10:13] <thoreauputic> greenman, you need to enable the universe repository
[10:13] <bun-bun> Davo_Dinkum# if you don't see them in the stock install you can download them
[10:13] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell greenman about easysource
[10:13] <sith-lord> hi
[10:13] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell greenman about repos
[10:14] <zen2> ill look intothat BHSPitLappy
[10:14] <BlueEagle> !info fluxbox
[10:14] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-2 (dapper), package size 720 kB, installed size 2288 kB
[10:14] <greenman> thoreauputic: how do i do that?  this is a fresh install
[10:14] <sith-lord> you tell me ;)
[10:14] <gbu> What do I do after ctrl+o?
[10:14] <BlueEagle> greenman: It means that, since fluxbox is in universe, you need to add repositories.
[10:14] <DigitalNinja> Can someone tell me what memtest does?
[10:14] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: It tests your memory.
[10:14] <greenman> BlueEagle:
[10:15] <mneptok> zen2: "cat /etc/fstab" will tell you what the machine thinks swap should be
[10:15] <thoreauputic> greenman, BlueEagle got the bot to send you info - did you read the message?
[10:15] <greenman> BlueEagle: how do I do that?
[10:15] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: How do I know what all the numbers mean?
[10:15] <BlueEagle> greenman: Did you see that ubotu has sendt you some private messages?
[10:15] <greenman> thoreauputic: yeah, but it said to go to a website.  I don't have anything graphical to go to a website with
[10:15] <BlueEagle> greenman: They should contain all the info you need. :)
[10:15] <mneptok> gbu: once you have used ctl+o to save, use ctl+x to exit
[10:15] <zen2> thanks ill look at that i was about to say i dont have gnome partition editor
[10:16] <nomin> what is the security vulnerability with nvidia?
[10:16] <nolimitsoya> zen2 sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:16] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: Pass = 24%
[10:16] <mneptok> zen2: gparted is not installed by default
[10:16] <thoreauputic> greenman, OK, well  edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> !universe | greenman
[10:16] <ubotu> greenman: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:16] <zen2> ok
[10:16] <bluebetty> Umm, i am using the latest install cd for ubuntu desktop, it boots to a blackscreen. can i use a ncurses installer instead of the X installer?
[10:16] <mneptok> bluebetty: get the alternate CD
[10:16] <DigitalNinja> My computer keeps locking up and I'm wonering if it is a hardware problem
[10:16] <nolimitsoya> bluebetty, the alternate cd is text based
[10:16] <thoreauputic> greenman, then sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get install fluxbox  - but if you are starting from no graphics at all you will need xorg as well
[10:17] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: As long as it doesn't throw up any errors you should be fine. What it does is that it writes several patterns to memory and then checks that the patterns can be read back correctly. This will detect any faults in your memory chips that leads to errors when certain patterns are written to memory.
[10:17] <nolimitsoya> DigitalNinja, run memtest from the grub menu
[10:17] <bluebetty> thats like another 700mb download :(
[10:17] <nolimitsoya> bluebetty, unfortunate, but cant be helped. have you checked the cd for defects?
[10:17] <DigitalNinja> nolimitsoya: It's running. Pass = 35%
[10:17] <zen2> thanks nolimitsoya ill do that now
[10:17] <bluebetty> yeah, cd is fine. It loads instal X fine.
[10:18] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: (ie in some cases writing 10101010 to memory will be read back as 101010111 while 10001010 and any other combo will be read back correctly. That makes for rare and hard to debug failures.
[10:18] <bluebetty> just doesnt display anything. I might bealbe to modify the xorg.conf
[10:18] <bluebetty> and restart the process
[10:18] <DigitalNinja> nolimitsoya: I just installed Battlefield 1942. I would like to play but the system keeps locking up
[10:18] <nolimitsoya> DigitalNinja, are you running it through wine?
[10:19] <DigitalNinja> nolinitsoya: cedega
[10:19] <nolimitsoya> DigitalNinja, check if there are any bugs posted
[10:19] <BlueEagle> !cedega
[10:19] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:19] <greenman> thoreauputic: should i do xorg first? or will it know from dependencies?
[10:19] <zen2> ok i apt got it
[10:19] <DigitalNinja> nolimitsoya: No bugs! It's marked as a supported game
[10:19] <zen2> and now where did it put it
[10:20] <zen2> it shows in terminal its installed
[10:20] <zen2> how do i access it
[10:20] <thoreauputic> greenman, I would install at least   x-window-system xterm fluxbox
[10:20] <nolimitsoya> DigitalNinja, anyway, this is something that should be dealt with by cedega support, and not ubuntu support
[10:20] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: Do you know if Cedega will run in 64bit Ubuntu
[10:20] <cpk2> zen2: a simple gparted should work
[10:20] <nolimitsoya> zen2, just type sudo gparted
[10:20] <thoreauputic> greenman, you can do them all on one line like that
[10:20] <BlueEagle> zen2: ALT+F2 and type in: gksudo gparted
[10:20] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: No, I do not know wether or not cedega will run in 64-bit ubuntu.
[10:21] <zen2> excellent
[10:21] <zen2> its running now
[10:21] <thoreauputic> greenman, you will have to install all your chosen apps afterwards as well, if you are starting from a "server" type install
[10:21] <gbu> After ctrl+o it says file name to write:: etc/modules and shows some options.what do I do?
[10:21] <greenman> thoreauputic: so that would look like this:  sudo apt-get install x-window-system xterm fluxbox
[10:21] <BlueEagle> !gksudo
[10:21] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[10:21] <nolimitsoya> zen2, what were you tryng to do again?
[10:21] <thoreauputic> greenman, yes
[10:21] <DigitalNinja> nolimitsoya: I don't think it's cedega. I think it's hardware. If the test comes back good I'll give the cedega people a call
[10:21] <zen2> and yeah for somereason the swap drive is not showing as alive so ill reformatt it to swap and get restarted
[10:21] <thoreauputic> greenman, but first enable universe, of course
[10:22] <mneptok> gbu: what are you trying to do?
[10:22] <greenman> thoreauputic: i did that.  although it seems to not be able to find any of the sites...
[10:22] <thoreauputic> greenman, if you want a login screen you might also install gdm
[10:22] <thoreauputic> greenman, did you run sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[10:22] <gbu> im trying to install radeon drivers
[10:22] <DigitalNinja> memtest is at 63% pass
[10:22] <zen2> ok file remade same as before
[10:22] <greenman> thoreauputic: that's what it's not finding addresses on
[10:22] <zen2> now if i restart it should come back right
[10:22] <BlueEagle> zen2: I assume you already checked /etc/fstab to see that the swap partition is listed there and that sudo swapon -a doesn't print any errors.
[10:23] <mneptok> gbu: you do not need to do anything with a text editor to get ATI Radeon support. just install fglrx from Synaptic.
[10:23] <zen2> no blue i did not do sudo swapon -a
[10:23] <thoreauputic> greenman,  sounds like your /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong
[10:23] <nolimitsoya> !ati | gbu
[10:23] <ubotu> gbu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <greenman> nah, it seemes to be a networking prob...
[10:23] <BlueEagle> zen2: Well that's what you need to do to enable the swap if it's not already enabled.
[10:23] <DigitalNinja> mneptok: Hows the ATI support?
[10:23] <BlueEagle> zen2: to check if swap has been enabled: free -m
[10:24] <zen2> but the gparted reported a error in the hda6 was not there as swap it was a unknowen fs
[10:24] <thoreauputic> greenman, check /etc/resolv.conf  perhaps
[10:24] <zen2> how do i check that
[10:24] <DigitalNinja> mneptok: I'm using invidia
[10:24] <nolimitsoya> zen2, reformat you swap partition if its damaged
[10:24] <mneptok> DigitalNinja: i have almost no idea, as i do not use nor recommend ATI products
[10:24] <nolimitsoya> *yuour
[10:24] <nolimitsoya> **your :P
[10:24] <gbu> im installing the ones on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[10:25] <nolimitsoya> gbu, follow the guide that ubotu gave you
[10:25] <zen2> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/4d9fc77d-791e-489e-9ec0-ce8984853053: No such file or directory
[10:25] <zen2> zennix@zennix-desktop:~$
[10:25] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: Will memtest tell me something at the end or does it just restart the test
[10:25] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: How should I know?
[10:25] <gbu> wheres that guide?
[10:25] <zen2> ill restart and see if that fixes it
[10:25] <greenman> thoreauputic: okay, i updated the nameservers, now how do i reset the connection?
[10:25] <BlueEagle> :)
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: I thought you knew something about memtest
[10:26] <nolimitsoya> zen2, as said, reformat your swap partition in gparted, and edit your fstab to point to /dev/<you swap partition> instread of those numbers
[10:26] <nolimitsoya> !ati | gbu
[10:26] <ubotu> gbu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <thoreauputic> greenman,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  should do it
[10:26] <black_13> serlook refuses to build
[10:26] <BlueEagle> digitalninja: I do know something about it, but unfortunately not everything. I never had a reason to run it. ;)
[10:26] <ramvi> Yo! What application should I use to get the data from a DV-cam?
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: I see
[10:26] <black_13> no wonder no package has it
[10:26] <greenman> hmm...
[10:26] <greenman> address:  Host name lookup failure
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> BlueEagle: I'll see what it does in a few minutes
[10:27] <greenman> i think i did something wrong...
[10:27] <thoreauputic> greenman, are you using dhcp?
[10:27] <greenman> thoreauputic: nope
[10:27] <bluebetty> well, i just discovered, that some ati cards. Mine is a x700 wont boot properly into the ubuntu desktop installer. A quick and easy fix, is altering the xorg.conf to use 'vesa' and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:27] <BlueEagle> ramvi: nautilus in most cases I would assume. It really does depend on how dv-cameras store the data.
[10:27] <thoreauputic> greenman, then you need to be sure all your /etc/network/interfaces setting are right as well
[10:28] <pippijn> hi all
[10:28] <pippijn> can I install ubuntu from a usb hdd?
[10:28] <Harriv> Hello, are the older version available for ubuntu? eg. 6.06 ?
[10:28] <greenman> thoreauputic: i did it according to the man page...  i don't see how it's wrong...
[10:28] <BlueEagle> bluebetty: Then again that makes you use the vesa drivers. :)
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: I think so.  I might even have directions on that around here somewhere.  One moment.
[10:28] <black_13> what is good application to sniff the serial port?
[10:28] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: would be great
[10:28] <BlueEagle> harriv: A) Yes, and B) Why would you want it?
[10:28] <greenman> iface eht0 inet static
[10:28] <thoreauputic> greenman, you have broadcast address, default route etc set ? right subnet? etc etc
[10:29] <greenman> address 192.168.1.2
[10:29] <greenman> netmask 255.255.255.0
[10:29] <thoreauputic> I assume eht0 was a typo :)
[10:29] <greenman> gateway address 192.168.1.1
[10:29] <greenman> thoreauputic: yeah it was
[10:29] <Harriv> BlueEagle: a) where? b) I try to install ubuntu to Dell PE1950, it has RAID (needs megaraid something, which is not included in 6.06.1) and it needs bnx2 network driver (not included in 6.06.1)
[10:29] <bluebetty> BlueEagle, it lets you access the installer. once installed just download a new/working driver ;)
[10:30] <greenman> thoreauputic: the problem it has is with address...
[10:30] <HeXiOn> hello
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: Okay, obviously the target machine will need to be able to boot from a usb device.  Now, what you'll need to do is "burn" the installation cd to that drive.  Theoretically the following works, although I haven't tried it yet:
[10:30] <greenman> should gateway address be one word?
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: If your .iso image file is located in /foo and you have a mount
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> point /mnt/bar, do this:
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: sudo mount /foo/file.iso /mnt/bar -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop1
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: The extracted image is in /mnt/bar
[10:30] <greenman> in the man page it has gateway address
[10:30] <HeXiOn> there's an application installed by default in edgy (it wasn't in dapper) that manages remote control keys. Anyone knows what application it is and how to deactive it????
[10:31] <thoreauputic> greenman, if you are setting nameservers usually you would have two lines "nameserever xxx.xxx..xxx.xxx "
[10:31] <black_13> can ethereral be use to sniff a serial port?
[10:31] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: yeah, seems okay, but how do I start the setup?
[10:31] <greenman> thoreauputic: yeah, i have two nameserver lines, they are in resolv.conf
[10:31] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: what is the setup program called?
[10:31] <thoreauputic> greenman, I think it is just "gateway" but I would have to look in the man ( using dhcp here )
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: Should be able to just boot the device and away you go.  Same as the CD.
[10:32] <greenman> thoreauputic: the man says gateway address
[10:32] <greenman> i'm gonna try not following the man and leave off the address...
[10:32] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: you mean really burn it to the hdd?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> greenman, I seem to recall setting broadcast as well, but I doubt that that is compulsory
[10:32] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: I doubt that works
[10:32] <greenman> thoreauputic: and it worked
[10:32] <greenman> :)
[10:32] <thoreauputic> aha!
[10:32] <enfors> C question: What package do I install to get C function manpages? Like fgets, printf, ioctl, etc...
[10:32] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: cdfs or rather iso9660 works completely different from any other fs
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> pippijn: That's what someone told me.  Like I said, I haven't gotten around to testing it yet.
[10:33] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: they got some TOC that is in the first few circles
[10:33] <greenman> thoreauputic: now it's updating
[10:33] <BlueEagle> harriv: For raid you'll need the alternate install cd found on http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso (for x86 platforms) and the bnx2 driver is indeed included in 6.06.1. However if you do insist on using 6.06 you can find the releases on http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cool
[10:33] <pippijn> tonyyarusso: I'll try
[10:33] <Harriv> BlueEagle: this is related: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/dell-server-improvement
[10:34] <greenman> sudo apt-get install x-window-system xterm fluxbox gdm, anything else?
[10:34] <Harriv> BlueEagle: Ok, I need to try the alternative install. However the standard installation doesn't recognize Broadcom network interfaces
[10:34] <enfors> C question: What package do I install to get C function manpages? Like fgets, printf, ioctl, etc...
[10:34] <porkpie__> guy's how do I add a gateway to the routing table under ubuntu ?
[10:34] <Harriv> BlueEagle: The link you gave includes 6.06.1
[10:35] <thoreauputic> greenman, depends what you need
[10:35] <porkpie__> is it something like add route gw ipaddress
[10:35] <wrabbit^> hi guys... do I have to install something before a command like ./configure works?  I'd like to install a package but the configure script doesn't seem to be installed
[10:35] <greenman> right now i just need a gui so i can cut and paste easily between files.  :)
[10:36] <BlueEagle> harriv: It would appear so. However on the alternate install you can manually load drivers that are not recognized correctly. You can also load the driver on the live cd using: sudo modprobe <drivername> in a terminal and then set it up with something like sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (provided that the /etc/network/interfaces file is set up correctly even if there is not detected a network interface at boot)
[10:36] <thoreauputic> greenman, well you should get fluxbox + an xterm - you can go from there ( add editors, other apps )
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: What package?
[10:36] <BlueEagle> harriv: The first link, yes. The last link is for 6.06
[10:36] <greenman> thoreauputic: cool.  i appreciate all your help. :)
[10:36] <BlueEagle> harriv: hold on.
[10:36] <teledyn> which flash player works best?
[10:36] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, I'm installing Wonder Shaper on another machine.
[10:36] <thoreauputic> greenman,  apt-cache search <keyword>  is your friend :)
[10:36] <Harriv> BlueEagle: last link states 6.06.1 on the page..
[10:36] <BlueEagle> harriv: You are right. There is actually 6.06.1 files in the 6.06 directory. :)
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: sudo aptitude install wondershaper
[10:37] <thoreauputic> greenman, no problem - that's what we're here for :)
[10:37] <teledyn> i see flashplayer-mozilla, flashplugin-nonfree, swf-player,
[10:37] <greenman> thoreauputic: ah, like emerge search <keyword> :) cool
[10:37] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, it's not a debian based system
[10:37] <music_man_nz> Hi everyone
[10:37] <wrabbit^> so does anybody know about ./configure?
[10:37] <Harriv> BlueEagle: Yeah, I've noticed, 6.06 is completely vanished :) Someone wrote that 6.06 would work directly without any manual steps during install
[10:37] <mneptok> teledyn: flashplugin-nonfree
[10:37] <thoreauputic> greenman, ah another gentoo refugee ;-)
[10:37] <BlueEagle> harriv: I am sorry, but that's an awful miss by me. I assumed that since there was a 6.06 and a 6.06.1 directory on the mirrors that you could d/l the 6.06 image. :/
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: Ah, nevermind then.  Do you have make and the rest of the buildessential gang installed?
[10:37] <zen2> well that fixed the swap thanks guys
[10:37] <l-form> anybody knows "very very bizarre error when connecting" in gnomeicu
[10:37] <greenman> thoreauputic: couldn't find package x-window-system...
[10:37] <greenman> thoreauputic: yup. :)
[10:38] <enfors> wrabbit: the configure script should come with the software you're trying to install. If it doesn't, then it doesn't use configure.
[10:38] <thoreauputic> greenman,  sudo aptitude install apt-howto  && apt howto
[10:38] <greenman> i need a more hands-off distro.  :)
[10:38] <teledyn> mneptok: thanks
[10:38] <thoreauputic> !info x-window-system
[10:38] <ubotu> Package x-window-system does not exist in any distro I know
[10:38] <thoreauputic> hmm it's in edgy....
[10:38] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, nope. I'm trying to work out how yum works on fedora.  I need to update and need something like wonder shaper to keep the download limit tame
[10:38] <music_man_nz> What is the best php IDE for Ubuntu?
[10:38] <wrabbit^> enfors: know much about fedora?
[10:38] <greenman> must be an edgy thing
[10:38] <LiraNuna> music_man_nz, there are several
[10:39] <robert_> my audio is lagging
[10:39] <teledyn> music_man_nz: vim with syntax highlighting?
[10:39] <music_man_nz> Don't like Quanta
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: Well what's the error you get?  Probably has a clue.
[10:39] <greenman> music_man_nz: isn't eclipse like the best of any distro?
[10:39] <robert_> with next to *nothing* open
[10:39] <LiraNuna> GEdit, VIM, Anjuta
[10:39] <music_man_nz> or NVU, or bluefish
[10:39] <robert_> wtf
[10:39] <enfors> wrabbit: No, nothing, sorry
[10:39] <thoreauputic> greenman,  try xserver-xorg  then
[10:39] <music_man_nz> Or Screem
[10:39] <greenman> thoreauputic: okay, thanks
[10:39] <mneptok> music_man_nz: try jEdit and load up the plugins you need
[10:39] <music_man_nz> Just something simple that can connect to a web server
[10:39] <LiraNuna> music_man_nz, just choose :)
[10:39] <music_man_nz> But they all suck
[10:39] <music_man_nz> really
[10:39] <music_man_nz> I have used them
[10:39] <BlueEagle> harriv: Still, using the alternate cd you should be able to set up raid properly. I for one use a single drive for linux and the raid drives for important data so for me the raid is set up automagically. :)
[10:39] <LiraNuna> :9
[10:39] <thoreauputic> greenman,  yo might need to configure it with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:39] <mneptok> music_man_nz: jEdit, then.
[10:39] <music_man_nz> Something like Dreamweaver
[10:39] <music_man_nz> ok JEdt
[10:39] <music_man_nz> I'll take a look
[10:40] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, just says no such file or directory. Not sure if build-essential is in the yum repos
[10:40] <mneptok> music_man_nz: you'll want Sun's JVM installed first
[10:40] <thoreauputic> greenman, you are doing this the hard-core way ;0 *grin*
[10:40] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell music_man_nz about enter
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: Are you in the directory resulting from extracting the source?
[10:40] <music_man_nz> sorry.
[10:40] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, yep
[10:40] <greenman> thoreauputic: yeah, i see that. :)
[10:40] <Harriv> BlueEagle: I'll give alternative install cd a try, it should be easier this time because I found out which modules I need :)
[10:41] <enfors> C question: What package do I install to get C function manpages? Like fgets, printf, ioctl, etc...
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: Do you see configure when you 'ls'?  (Not all programs even have one I believe)  Also, is there a README?
[10:41] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, sorry, I'm new.  If by source you mean the tar.gz arch then yeah
[10:41] <BlueEagle> harriv: :)
[10:41] <mneptok> music_man_nz: http://jedit.sf.net
[10:41] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, ah right.  No, it's not there
[10:41] <music_man_nz> Thanks. I don't really want Java on the system. nvu can't open .php files which is stupid
[10:41] <thoreauputic> greenman, if you like xfce4, much easier way is just  sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop ( but that isn't just a bare bones gui like fluxbox of course)
[10:41] <Harriv> BlueEagle: it was "megaraid_sas"
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> wrabbit^: Try just skipping that step and going on to make.
[10:41] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso, I should really just read the .txt files in there
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> That would help
[10:41] <Harriv> BlueEagle: story can be read from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226114
[10:41] <mneptok> music_man_nz: why no Java? that seems somewhat arbitrary to me.
[10:42] <Harriv> BlueEagle: similar hardware, same problems
[10:42] <wrabbit^> tonyyarusso:  thanks anyway.  I'll keep trying
[10:42] <music_man_nz> Java sucks
[10:42] <greenman> thoreauputic: yeah, i thought about that, but I haven't used fluxbox in at least 5 years.  thought i might revisit it.  I'm in a minimal mood :)
[10:42] <BlueEagle> !offtopic
[10:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:42] <mneptok> music_man_nz: then you've been using the wrong Java apps. there are some that are quite excellent
[10:42] <enfors> C question: What package do I install to get C function manpages? Like fgets, printf, ioctl, etc...
[10:43] <music_man_nz> Perhaps, however I would really like to find a good php Editor that laods quickly and can format code
[10:43] <thoreauputic> greenman, I don't know why dapper would be missing x-window-system - but maybe the new metapackages are different
[10:43] <BlueEagle> !build-essentials
[10:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:43] <mneptok> music_man_nz: the nice thing about jEdit is that you can use it on any platform, so you don;t have to re-learn tools when switching machines.
[10:43] <pippijn> !repositories
[10:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:43] <greenman> wow stuff installs quick
[10:43] <BlueEagle> enfors: I guess that build-essentials would also include the man-pages.
[10:44] <thoreauputic> greenman, no compiling ;-)
[10:44] <music_man_nz> But you have to install Java to use it.
[10:44] <enfors> BlueEagle: I think I already have build-essentials, but still no manpages... I'll check though, thanks.
[10:44] <mneptok> music_man_nz: so? that takes all of 3 mminutes on Ubuntu.
[10:44] <greenman> thoreauputic: okay, after the gdm installed, it gave an error message invoke-rc.d:  initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[10:44] <MrKeuner> hi, which package do I need in order to have mp3 encoding support?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> greenman, probably normal, unless xorg didn't pull something in
[10:45] <mneptok> MrKeuner: encoding, or decoding?
[10:45] <music_man_nz> I would rather a native application. I'm not worried about learning, I just need it to: be able to connect to an ftp server within the program, format php and html code and highlight syntax
[10:45] <thoreauputic> greenman, try  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:45] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[10:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:45] <MrKeuner> mneptok: encoding
[10:45] <mneptok> MrKeuner: LAME
[10:45] <BlueEagle> !info cpp-doc
[10:45] <jono> does evolution in dapper mail filters in a config file somewhere that I could just copy to another machine, to save setting them all up?
[10:45] <ubotu> cpp-doc: Documentation for the GNU C preprocessor (cpp). In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 32 kB
[10:45] <BlueEagle> enfors: that might help
[10:45] <enfors> BlueEagle: Thanks, I'll check
[10:45] <greenman> thoreauputic: i'm gonna configure it first, then try and start the gdm
[10:45] <MrKeuner> mneptok: I have that but still cannot use encoding with vlc or with soundconverter
[10:46] <BlueEagle> oh, wait 32kb installed? o.O
[10:46] <thoreauputic> greenman,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:46] <mneptok> jono: ask one of your co-workers. oh ... waitaminnit ....
[10:46] <jono> heh
[10:46] <greenman> already on it :)
[10:46] <jono> I think I got it :)
[10:46] <thoreauputic> greenman,  :)
[10:47] <mneptok> jono: you'll want to backup .evolution as well as .gnome2 and .gconf
[10:47] <Bogaurd> hi there... i'm having some stability problems running dapper on my dual athlon 1800MP box
[10:47] <Bogaurd> I seem to be getting random reboots/lockups every few days :(
[10:47] <simmerz> hi. I've just tried installing awstats but there isn't a package in ubuntu for it. that doesn't seem right somehow
[10:47] <enfors> BlueEagle: Hmm, "info cpp-doc" doesn't seem to contain anything useful, unless I'm missing something
[10:47] <thoreauputic> !info awstats
[10:47] <ubotu> awstats: powerful and featureful web server log analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5-1ubuntu1.2 (dapper), package size 833 kB, installed size 4636 kB
[10:48] <thoreauputic> simmerz, it's in main
[10:48] <thoreauputic> simmerz, is your /etc/apt/sources.list correct?
[10:48] <BlueEagle> enfors: I would assume that cpp-doc would contain the man-pages for c/c++ functions. On that I can be wrong tho.
[10:48] <simmerz> thoreauputic: yes. my brain isn't though.... wrong machine!
[10:48] <enfors> BlueEagle: Possibly, but I'd prefer man pages over info docs.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> simmerz, heheh
[10:48] <gotth> what does 'apt-get -f install' does?
[10:49] <Bogaurd> !info amd_k7_agp
[10:49] <thoreauputic> gotth, tries to resolve conflicts by adding/removing things
[10:49] <BlueEagle> gotth: man apt-get
[10:49] <ubotu> Package amdk7agp does not exist in any distro I know
[10:49] <Bogaurd> ah right, not module names :(
[10:50] <gotth> thoreauputic,  thanks
[10:50] <MrKeuner> mneptok: do I need lame or gstreamer-lame?
[10:53] <greenman> thoreauputic: gdm fails
[10:54] <greenman> should i use xdm instead?
[10:54] <thoreauputic> greenman, hmm - you could try it ( gdm should work as far as I know, but maybe because you couldn't get x-window-system there's something missing)
[10:55] <greenman> okay, how do you uninstall something?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> greenman, does startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox   work ?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> greenman, sudo aptitude remove <package>
[10:55] <greenman> lets find out
[10:56] <thoreauputic> greenman, or apt-get remove  ( aptitude is smarter though)
[10:56] <Daemonik> Why is ReiserFS not an option in the list of filesystems to use during graphical install?
[10:57] <greenman> thoreauputic: in general what's better to use aptitude or apt-get ?  apt-get for install and aptitude for removing?
[10:57] <boink> both are fine
[10:57] <thoreauputic> greenman, no, aptitude for everything is better
[10:57] <kippi> hey
[10:57] <thoreauputic> bu yes, either is fine
[10:57] <Terminus> greenman: i'd use aptitude. better dependency tracking.
[10:58] <thoreauputic> greenman, aptitude remembers dependencies and removes them when you remove a package
[10:58] <kippi> trying to install snmp but when its installing i am getting this error: useradd: unable to lock password file
[10:58] <kippi> adduser: `/usr/sbin/useradd -d /var/lib/snmp -g nogroup -s /bin/false -u 109 snmp' returned error code 1.  Aborting.
[10:58] <kippi> anyideas why this is doing this and how to fix it?
[10:58] <BlueEagle> kippi: sudo apt-get install snmp and make sure that no other sessions of apt-get, aptitude and synaptic et-al is running.
[10:58] <KenSentMe> If i have a bug for the network-admin tool, which package should i choose?
[10:59] <BlueEagle> !bugs
[10:59] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:59] <BlueEagle> kensentme: wireless?
[10:59] <greenman> okay, from now on, aptitude
[10:59] <greenman> i'm getting font errors for starting x with fluxbox...
[10:59] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: yeah, but System|Admin|Network just completely doesn work
[11:00] <BlueEagle> kensentme: did you read !wireless?
[11:00] <dk> whats a good free audio cd burning program for ubuntu dapper
[11:00] <BlueEagle> !wireless
[11:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <thoreauputic> greenman, hmm, this is getting a bit complicated
[11:00] <nolimitsoya> dk, k3b
[11:00] <dk> how do i get it
[11:00] <nolimitsoya> or graveman...
[11:00] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: it crashes on startup and has nothing to do with wireless i think
[11:00] <BlueEagle> dk: gnome-baker or k3b
[11:00] <greenman> i also got this errors Error opening /dev/wacom no suct file or directory
[11:00] <nolimitsoya> sudo apt-get install k3b
[11:00] <dk> and is it gnome ready
[11:00] <nolimitsoya> no, its kde
[11:00] <dk> blueeagle how do i get gnome-baker
[11:00] <nolimitsoya> graveman and baker is gnome
[11:01] <dk> or nolimit can u help me get it
[11:01] <BlueEagle> !info gnome-baker
[11:01] <nolimitsoya> sudo apt-get, as any other program ;)
[11:01] <dk> ty
[11:01] <ubotu> Package gnome-baker does not exist in any distro I know
[11:01] <thoreauputic> greenman,  I'm on edgy so i can't check easily - try  " apt-cache search X | less " to see if there's something there that might help
[11:01] <BlueEagle> hmm...
[11:01] <kippi> BlueEagle: how would I make sure there are no other aptitudes running?
[11:01] <Terminus> it's gnomebaker, not gnome-baker =)
[11:01] <KenSentMe> !info gnomebaker
[11:01] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[11:01] <thoreauputic> greenman, heh that was a bit too general ;)
[11:02] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: are you on edgy?
[11:02] <BlueEagle> kippi: ps aux|grep apt
[11:02] <nolimitsoya> dk, since there arent any program out there that can match k3b at present, just accept the extra loading time the odd time you have to burn something :)
[11:02] <BlueEagle> kensentme: No
[11:02] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: ok
[11:02] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kensentme about edgy
[11:02] <thoreauputic> greenman,  maybe try  apt-cache search x-window-system and see if you get something
[11:02] <dk> no limit: but i have gnome
[11:02] <dk> not kde
[11:02] <nolimitsoya> dk, you can still use kde apps
[11:02] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: please stop that, i know the bot commands :)
[11:02] <dk> really?
[11:02] <nolimitsoya> just a tbit of etra loading time
[11:02] <dk> ok
[11:02] <dk> so how do i get that
[11:03] <nolimitsoya> stupid cats sleeping on my keyboard :P
[11:03] <BlueEagle> dk: You can run KDE-apps in gnome and vice versa.
[11:03] <dk> sudo apt-get k3b?
[11:03] <nolimitsoya> dk, as i said, sudo apt-get install k3b
[11:03] <dk> ty
[11:03] <BlueEagle> kensentme: Well I don't know that you do know them, and if you did know that then you would /whois me and see if I was in ubuntu+1 to determine wether or not I was using edgy.
[11:03] <BlueEagle> ;)
[11:04] <thoreauputic> greenman, possibly the xorg package is more general than xserver-xorg
[11:04] <KenSentMe> BlueEagle: not all people using edgy are in #ubuntu+1, but sorry for the remarks
[11:04] <greenman> thoreauputic: so i should get xorg?
[11:04] <greenman> btw, i think i figured out the wacom thing
[11:04] <thoreauputic> greenman,  getting xorg can't hurt
[11:05] <dk> !info k3b
[11:05] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[11:06] <ptl> !info amarok
[11:06] <thoreauputic> greenman, the fonts thing I don't know - x-window-system used to take care of that in Debian, but it's been a while since I did a bare bones install like the one you are doing
[11:06] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB
[11:06] <zoidberg> guys i've got a problem
[11:06] <ptl> cool
[11:06] <ptl> !info flightgear
[11:06] <ubotu> flightgear: Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.9-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1603 kB, installed size 4096 kB
[11:06] <zoidberg> blender3d used to work perfectly on my pc
[11:06] <Lynoure> zoidberg: and now?
[11:06] <zoidberg> now it says  " Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[11:06] <zoidberg> any ideas why this is happening
[11:07] <Terminus> zoidberg: sounds like your opengl drivers are messed up.
[11:07] <Terminus> zoidberg: what's your video card?
[11:07] <zoidberg> its the onboard Intel video card 810 driver i think
[11:07] <Terminus> zoidberg: oh... sorry. no experience with that. =|
[11:08] <zoidberg> Lynoure: can you help me?
[11:08] <Lynoure> zoidberg: if you are on edgy, try #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <zoidberg> i'm on dapper
[11:09] <zoidberg> i dont know why this isn't working
[11:09] <Lynoure> zoidberg: I just asked because I am interested in using blender
[11:09] <zoidberg> it used to work when i frist installed dapper
[11:09] <zoidberg> Lynoure: can you help me fix this GLX problem
[11:10] <Lynoure> zoidberg: Someone else can help you better, I do not have an Intel card myself
[11:11] <MasseR> Mind if I ask an edgy & acpi & laptop related question?
[11:11] <MasseR> Or is edgy no-no before 26th :)
[11:11] <Lynoure> zoidberg: but http://www.google.fi/search?hs=4Hx&hl=fi&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=dapper+blender+1%22+Xlib%3A+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display+%22%3A0.0%22&btnG=Hae&meta= has a lot for you
[11:12] <thoreauputic> gah what an ugly URL ! :-)
[11:12] <bleda> (: .
[11:13] <salatkuh> (: .
[11:13] <MasseR> Edgy recognizes /proc/acpi/fan/FAN0 and FAN1, says they are on, but in reality they aren't
[11:13] <MasseR> During bootup they are running until acpi kicks in
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> MasseR: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[11:14] <MasseR> Okay :)
[11:15] <Lynoure> thoreauputic: sorry, I could not be bothered to tiny it... That's google for you :)
[11:15] <mithro> hi! things which use to work with LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 no longer work with etch?
[11:15] <mithro> is there a new solution?
[11:15] <dk> how come when i try adding mp3 files in audio cd project in K3B it tells me "unable to handle the following files do to an unsupported format" ?
[11:16] <nolimitsoya> !mp3 | dk
[11:16] <ubotu> dk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:16] <cpk2> dk: you probably need xine-extracodecs?
[11:17] <dk> maybe
[11:17] <dk> i can play the mp3 in beep media player no problwem
[11:17] <gebruiker> when I enter a cd into my drive it doesn't get mounted in gnome ?
[11:17] <dk> do i still need codecs
[11:18] <dk> ok i tried sudo apt-get install xine-extracodecs and its stuck at 7 percent
[11:18] <cpk2> dk: does beep use xine?
[11:18] <dk> i dunno
[11:19] <dk> now it tells me, couldnt find package
[11:19] <dk> this sucks
[11:19] <dk> i just need to burn 1 mp3
[11:19] <dk> before i go to work
[11:19] <dk> which is in 10 mins lol
[11:19] <nolimitsoya> dk, why dont you use a burning app then?
[11:19] <nolimitsoya> like, k3b ;)
[11:20] <dk> thats what im trying with
[11:20] <dk> and it says that my mp3 are unsupported format
[11:20] <dk> when i try to add them
[11:20] <nolimitsoya> dk, it is, since its a nonfree format
[11:20] <dk> hmm
[11:20] <dk> im not sure to fix that
[11:20] <cpk2> nolimitsoya: k3b can work with mp3s
[11:21] <nomin> what?  K3b doesn't copy mp3 files?
[11:21] <nolimitsoya> cpk2, thats not what i said ;)
[11:21] <nolimitsoya> i just said its nonfree, and therefore not included by deafult in ubuntu
[11:21] <dk> so do i have to change somethin
[11:21] <nolimitsoya> for a more leaniant take on gpl, use mepis
[11:21] <nolimitsoya> dk, yes, your need codecs
[11:22] <nomin> I could try to burn mp3's on mine and see what happens
[11:22] <nolimitsoya> ubotu gave you a link, follow links you get, and all will be sorted out
[11:22] <dk> u dont even have to burn it nomin
[11:22] <dk> just try adding them
[11:22] <dk> i can't even add them
[11:22] <nolimitsoya> !mp3 | dk
[11:22] <ubotu> dk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <nolimitsoya> again, follow link you get, the first time you get them ;)
[11:23] <dk> ok ty
[11:23] <nomin> dk:  I just added them.  It's fine for me.
[11:23] <cpk2> dk: libxine-extracodecs - the xine video/media player library, binary files
[11:23] <dk> thanks
[11:23] <cpk2> dk: i was wrong, try using libxine-extracodecs but the might want lots of kde stuff
[11:23] <Vich> I am brand new to ubuntu
[11:24] <cpk2> which i suppose you already have since you have k3b
[11:24] <nomin> yeah, i think I had to add some kind of xine package to get everything to work right.
[11:24] <Vich> I just installed it
[11:24] <Vich> and I have little to no experience with it
[11:24] <dk> hmm
[11:24] <Vich> I want to get my wireless card working
[11:24] <nolimitsoya> !wireless
[11:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:24] <dk> ok thanks guys i gotta go to work now. ill be nack
[11:24] <Vich> lol
[11:24] <Vich> thanks nolimitsoya
[11:24] <CarinArr> vich, what wireless card do you have?
[11:25] <nolimitsoya> np :)
[11:25] <Vich> Dlink G510
[11:25] <dsewnr_> Enable AGPFastWrite causes my Ubuntu crashed, someboey know the solution ?
[11:25] <Vich> I have read that I can use the windows drivers with a wrapper
[11:25] <nolimitsoya> dsewnr_, yes, dont ;)
[11:25] <Vich> or get this other driver
[11:26] <nolimitsoya> dsewnr_, many graphicscards and motherboards dont work well with fw, besides, it doesnt give any oerfirmace benefit
[11:26] <nolimitsoya> *performance
[11:26] <syntaxx> how to enable samba in iptables to all my lan address? iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 137:139 -j ACCEPT doesnt show
[11:26] <cpk2> Vich: its called ndiswrapper and yes you can use ndiswrapper with windows drivers
[11:27] <dsewnr_> nolimitsoya: Thx
[11:27] <CarinArr> vich, " revision B1 4.10 -- revision C2 should work if you download and compile the RT61 drivers for Linux from [WWW]  http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm but they are hard to compile"
[11:28] <greenman> i installed xorg-server or some such thing and it won't start, it says basically can't find fonts
[11:28] <greenman> any ideas?
[11:28] <rob_p> syntaxx, try, "-p udp --dport..." instead of tcp
[11:28] <dsewnr_> nolimitsoya: But it's no problem in my Windows XP, so I wanta know why.
[11:28] <nonrootuser> Hi everybody! Can you tell me how to install python and scons?
[11:29] <gebruiker> I messedup my fstab could someone post his /etc/fstab
[11:30] <gebruiker> I messedup my fstab could someone post his /etc/fstab
[11:30] <gebruiker> I messedup my fstab could someone post his /etc/fstab
[11:30] <nolimitsoya> dsewnr_, then xp probably disables it. it can be done through software
[11:30] <Vich> thanks CarinArr
[11:30] <Vich> but I wonder which is the better option?
[11:30] <greenman> i installed xorg-server or some such thing and it won't start, it says basically can't find fonts
[11:31] <dsewnr_> nolimitsoya: see, thx a lot : )
[11:33] <rambo3> Where in xchat do i setup ff as default browser
[11:33] <DarkMageZ> rambo3, is it loading opera or w3m?
[11:34] <rambo3> opera.  and opera is not linking to webpage
[11:35] <DarkMageZ> rambo3, if you install galternatives and then change x-www-browser so that firefox is the first option. then it'll be happy
[11:37] <greenman> arg, arg arg
[11:37] <greenman> there has to be fonts somewhere on here!
[11:37] <CarinArr> does anyone know where network-admin saves profiles to?
[11:37] <mneptok> greenman: /usr/share/fonts
[11:38] <greenman> mneptok: i can't find the ones that xorg looks for.  it seems to me like when you install the xorg stuff, maybe that should be part of it...
[11:40] <XiXaQ> I'm about to install Edgy from scratch. But I want to keep all users and their settings. Is it sufficient to copy /home over to the new system, or must I use other tools?
[11:41] <nolimitsoya> XiXaQ, thats sufficient :)
[11:41] <greenman> help...
[11:41] <nolimitsoya> your /home contains almost every setting, and they do contain every normal user
[11:41] <greenman> please...
[11:41] <nolimitsoya> greenman, ?
[11:41] <UniVolstrup> XiXaQ: /home is only where their homes resides... If you want to copy their account-information on your system you'll have to copy a little bit more
[11:41] <greenman> i just want to be able to see graphically
[11:42] <greenman> yet, between ubuntu and xserver-xorg and fluxbox, it doesn't seem to want me to use it
[11:42] <nolimitsoya> UniVolstrup, i think its a better system to recreate those users on the new system, and point their home to the old folders :)
[11:42] <nolimitsoya> greenman, tried startx?
[11:42] <greenman> yeah, i get a bunch of error messages about missing fonts
[11:43] <nolimitsoya> greenman, installed xfonts?
[11:43] <greenman> i don't understand why it would install without fonts, or how to go about getting them
[11:43] <rambo3> install them then
[11:43] <nolimitsoya> greenman, sudo apt-get install xfonts
[11:43] <nolimitsoya> also...
[11:43] <greenman> i just did that and it said coudlnt find package xrfonts
[11:43] <greenman> xfonts
[11:44] <rambo3> !info xfonts
[11:44] <ubotu> Package xfonts does not exist in any distro I know
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !info xfonts-100dpi
[11:44] <chvt7> greenman: the reason for no dependency to the fonts is that you could be running a x font server on another machine that the x server can use
[11:44] <ubotu> xfonts-100dpi: 100 dpi fonts for X. In component main, is optional. Version 6.8.2.1-5 (dapper), package size 4304 kB, installed size 5492 kB
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !info xfonts-75dpi
[11:45] <ubotu> xfonts-75dpi: 75 dpi fonts for X. In component main, is optional. Version 6.8.2.1-5 (dapper), package size 3805 kB, installed size 5100 kB
[11:45] <thoreauputic> apt-cache search xfonts gives a huge list ...
[11:45] <thoreauputic> those above are the basic ones I think
[11:45] <greenman> that's probably what i need
[11:45] <nolimitsoya> xfonts-base should work, also
[11:46] <khaije1> does anyone still play the original neverwinter nights?
[11:46] <khaije1> i've never played it but it looks amazing
[11:46] <chvt7> i think there is xfonts-base
[11:46] <thoreauputic> nolimitsoya, ah, good catch
[11:46] <chuckyp> khaije1, whats that?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> chvt7, yes there is
[11:46] <dsewnr_> "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" Does somebody know how this message causes ?
[11:46] <khaije1> it's an rpg that has a native linux client
[11:46] <nonrootuser>  'python -V
[11:46] <nonrootuser>  ' gives 'Python 2.4.2
[11:46] <nonrootuser> ', but 'sudo apt-get install scons' gives 'Depends: python2.2 but it is not going to be installed
[11:46] <nonrootuser> '
[11:46] <chuckyp> khaije1, what is the name of it.  I just connected I just saw you said you've never played bu tit looks amazing.
[11:47] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[11:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:47] <khaije1> chuckyp: oh the game called neverwinter nights
[11:47] <chuckyp> khaije1, gotcha
[11:47] <khaije1> there is a sequel out now, but the original has a native linux version
[11:47] <greenman> woohoo
[11:47] <greenman> graphicalness
[11:47] <khaije1> (the sequel doesn't support linux)
[11:47] <thoreauputic> greenman, aha!
[11:47] <nolimitsoya> greenman :)
[11:48] <nolimitsoya> greenman, tell me, why fluxbox instead of xfce, and why not use fluxbuntu?
[11:48] <nolimitsoya> (just curious)
[11:48] <greenman> never heard of fluxbuntu
[11:48] <nolimitsoya> !fluxbuntu
[11:48] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a Ubuntu-derivative based on the FluxBox Desktop Environment. It is lightweight, swift and sleek. | Fluxbuntu Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Fluxbuntu Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | The Fluxbuntu Community: http://community.fluxbuntu.org/
[11:48] <greenman> and never heard of xfce
[11:49] <nolimitsoya> !xubuntu
[11:49] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:49] <greenman> but i've used fluxbox waaaaaay back
[11:49] <sixth> hello, i have 5.1 speakers, how do i set it up in ubuntu?
[11:49] <nolimitsoya> check them out ;)
[11:49] <thoreauputic> nolimitsoya, he's a hard-core do it the hard way kind of guy ;p
[11:49] <nolimitsoya> lol :P
[11:49] <greenman> cool
[11:49] <greenman> xdm workd
[11:50] <nonrootuser> if I've got Py. 2.4 , why scons wants Py 2.2??
[11:50] <sixth> hello, i have 5.1 speakers, how do i set it up in ubuntu so i will hear from them all?
[11:50] <greenman> don't know why gdm didn't, but it's cool now
[11:50] <nolimitsoya> greenman, xfce is a fluxbuntustyle graphical system, but alot newer, a tiny bit more memory hungry, and with a lot of more features and a more modern feel
[11:50] <thoreauputic> greenman, pity it's as ugly as sin
[11:50] <sonics> hi guys :)
[11:50] <thoreauputic> greenman, gdm might work now if you tried it ( but it's heavier of course)
[11:50] <greenman> since i'm not going to be on it much, it doesn't have to be too pretty :)
[11:51] <NET||abuse> arrg, how do i goto line in vi?
[11:51] <greenman> thoreauputic: i did, it didn't work, so i axed it and got xdm instead
[11:51] <chvt7> nolimitsoya: IMHO xfce is just the right mixture. not too bloated and not too simplistic.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> greenman, whats' wrong with startx then ? *grin*
[11:51] <mneptok> greenman: if lightweight but functional is what you're after, XFCE may well be a better chocie than Flux these days
[11:51] <sonics> hmm, maybe anyone can help me here, is there any one here using VPN on ubuntu???
[11:51] <mneptok> *choice
[11:51] <nolimitsoya> chvt7, my point exactly :)
[11:51] <NineTeen67Comet> hello all . ubuntu-xgl is sleeping right now .. but .. Is there anyone in here that could try to help me check and make sure I've got GL working correctly and nVidia going as strong as it can? I'm running 4 monitors off two video cards and glxgears isn't working (was "kind of") .. one AGP and one PCI ..
[11:51] <greenman> NET||abuse: type the line number then shift-G
[11:51] <nolimitsoya> xfce ftw! \o/
[11:51] <thoreauputic> mneptok, pfft
[11:51] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:51] <mneptok> hey, i just work here ...
[11:52] <chvt7> nolimitsoya: though on my older machines i keep using xfce3
[11:52] <NET||abuse> greenman: oh, ok.. grr.. i'm fighting with routers2.cgi
[11:52] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[11:52] <NET||abuse> it won't load up RRDs.pm
[11:52] <Mikel0> sorry to bother u, i got this stupid problem i cant resolve http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28085/
[11:52] <greenman> NET||abuse: it took me forever to learn that. :)
[11:52] <sonics> where is kernel header located in ubuntu dapper 6.06 ??
[11:52] <sixth> hello, i have 5.1 speakers, how do i set it up in ubuntu so i will hear from them all?
[11:52] <mneptok> thoreauputic: that would be ... unwise. :)
[11:52] <NET||abuse> greenman: cheers :) yeh, i'll have to remember it. :)
[11:52] <chvt7> thoreauputic: i like the window grouping feature of fluxbox
[11:53] <thoreauputic> mneptok, well, it would cut down the channel numbers a a lot and make opping easier *grin*
[11:53] <nolimitsoya> Mikel0, tried dist-upgrade?
[11:53] <greenman> NET||abuse: glad i could help.  lord knows i get enough help around here. :)
[11:53] <mneptok> thoreauputic: i want more users, not fewer. more users = potential for bigger paycheck. :)
[11:54] <thoreauputic> mneptok,  you get paid for this? Who's your agent? Address?
[11:54] <mneptok> thoreauputic: it's not like it's a secret :)
[11:54] <nolimitsoya> thoreauputic, may i guess hes part of the canonical team ;)
[11:54] <thoreauputic> mneptok, ah just looked at your /whois :)
[11:55] <Mikel0> what's the difference between dist-upgrade & upgrade?
[11:55] <c|int> I still can't view chm files
[11:55] <nolimitsoya> Mikel0, dist-upgrade is more thorough
[11:55] <thoreauputic> Mikel0, dist-upgrade removes and installs new apps etc
[11:55] <Mikel0> tnx nolimitsoya
[11:55] <mneptok> Mikel0: "upgrade" gets new packages for your current release. "dist-upgrade" gets the next released version of the OS.
[11:55] <c|int> upgrades the entire system.. to whatever is latest for the repositories etc
[11:56] <thoreauputic> mneptok, well, assuming you are on dapper, yes
[11:56] <sixth> hello, i have 5.1 speakers, how do i set it up in ubuntu so i will hear from them all?
[11:56] <mneptok> thoreauputic: also works for non-RC Edgy releases.
[11:57] <nolimitsoya> c|int, use utorrent through wine instead
[11:57] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, i got another error!!     E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:57] <nolimitsoya> ever through wine, its more resource efficient
[11:57] <thoreauputic> mneptok, i always use dist-upgrade on dev releases - maybe just an old Debian habit from using Sid
[11:57] <mneptok> c|int: install Sun's JRE, run update-java-alternatives, and then install the latest Azureus
[11:57] <c|int> have to renaim,  xorg.conf from nv to nvidia, just to get 3d performance, and grafics, working right
[11:57] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, should i apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[11:57] <mneptok> c|int: you're better advised to use the nv drivers right now.
[11:58] <c|int> doesn't work, nvidia does :-)
[11:58] <c|int> nice little nvidia splash, like before with Xandros :-)
[11:58] <mneptok> c|int: well, then enjoy having your machine rooted by someone in Turkmenistan
[11:58] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28086/
[11:58] <c|int> rooted nah:)
[11:59] <nolimitsoya> c|int, fall back to vesa till you get nv working :)
[11:59] <cpk2> mneptok: assuming he goes to a website that would actually want to compromise him
[11:59] <exhale> lmao nv drivers lmao
[11:59] <c|int> I do have nvidia working :)
[11:59] <exhale> the nv drivers are terrible
[11:59] <nolimitsoya> c|int, but not nv ;)
[11:59] <c|int> screw nv
[11:59] <c|int> nvidia, is nvidia to me, how I like it :)
[11:59] <flodine> CodeWarior you out there
[11:59] <c|int> how I bought it
[11:59] <c|int> :)
[11:59] <chvt7> mneptok: good point
[11:59] <c|int> and now, I have counter strike source, working.. so hee :-)
[12:00] <c|int> and my vmware :-)
[12:00] <nolimitsoya> c|int, seroisly, you should read up...
[12:00] <c|int> thats piece cake :)
[12:00] <c|int> nah, thats okay :-)
[12:00] <exhale> i dont think its that serious
[12:00] <mneptok> "Who cares if my machine hosts a botnet and spam relay as long as I get 75fps in Half-Life?!"
[12:00] <nolimitsoya> Mikel0, dont know whats wrong, but try a reboot if you made a kernel change
[12:02] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, i didn't http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28087/
[12:02] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, i'll just purge amule & reinstall it
[12:03] <nolimitsoya> Mikel0, maby try aptitude?
[12:03] <godmachine81> is the firefox in the kubuntu repos built with qt or with gtk2?
[12:03] <sixth> hello, i have 5.1 speakers, how do i set it up in ubuntu so i will hear from them all?
[12:03] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, im doing that now
[12:04] <pty> sixth: try fiddling with alsamixer
[12:04] <Mikel0> nolimitsoya, ill figure it out
[12:07] <sonics> hmm, anyone knows on howto install vpn in ubuntu?
[12:07] <sixth> pty, whats alsamixer?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> !vpn
[12:08] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:08] <pty> sixth: you use it to configure alsa; you should be able to find it in synaptic
[12:09] <thoreauputic> pty, it's installed by default
[12:09] <pty> thoreauputic: ah, thanks.  would have checked but am at work ;p
[12:10] <thoreauputic> sixth,  type alsamixer in  a terminal and use arrows - tabs to navigate, space bar and "m" to mute/unmute
[12:11] <timhaughton> How do I update the environment variables from the command line. Tried env-update - must be a Gentoo thing.
[12:11] <timhaughton> I guess I want it to reload /etc/profile
[12:11] <Enselic> Is there a way to fix my Thunderbird redrawing time? I've got pretty many emails, and the redrawing of my inbox when I scroll is really really slow (like 0.3 secs).
[12:11] <mneptok> export var_name=variable
[12:12] <timhaughton> mneptok: I want it to reload /etc/profile
[12:12] <Enselic> timhaughton: export VAR_NAME='$VAR_NAME:added_value'
[12:12] <Enselic> timhaughton: oh
[12:12] <thoreauputic> timhaughton,   source /etc/profile ?
[12:12] <mneptok> timhaughton: restart the terminal
[12:13] <RemyHome> howdy folks!  I have a question for you.
[12:13] <RemyHome> I'm dual booting windows / ubuntu
[12:13] <mneptok> timhaughton: but the export command is instant
[12:13] <RemyHome> I want to access a file that's on the windows partition (it's ntfs), any way I can do that without restarting ?
[12:13] <timhaughton> thoreauputic: That did it - thanks
[12:14] <timhaughton> mneptok: Thanks :)
[12:14] <Mikel0> !java
[12:14] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:14] <snoops> RemyHome you can mount it.. sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/driveandpartition /media/mountlocation
[12:15] <meatballhat9000> How does one decrypt the messege emailed for OpenPGP key registration on Launchpad?
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> What's a good cli bittorrent client?
[12:16] <godmachine81> is the firefox in the kubuntu repos built with qt or with gtk2?
[12:16] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso, rtorrent
[12:16] <RemyHome> snoops - thanks, how do i know which drive/partition?
[12:17] <Magnum_opus> hi everyone, I am curently running Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060523 Ubuntu/dapper Firefox/1.5.0.3, and seem not to be able to upgrade to later versions: Firefox 2.0b2 - 2.0.0.*
[12:17] <snoops> RemyHome hehe, well you can click on Settings>administration>disk manager
[12:17] <snoops> you can also mount it from there I believe
[12:17] <nolimitsoya> godmachine81, why dont you just try to install it, check if its dependant on gtk, and then youll know
[12:17] <Shadowthrone> Is it possible to remove programs from the bottom panel but still have them running?
[12:18] <godmachine81> nolimitsoya:: because im not in kubuntu and i figured i would ask before i try
[12:18] <nolimitsoya> godmachine81, but youll know the minute you are on your kubuntu machine, so...
[12:18] <godmachine81> nolimitsoya:: im trying to compile firefox from source with qt instead of gtk2.. and its not finding the qt libs.. i have them installed and i dont know wht its looking for specifically
[12:18] <thoreauputic> MagicFab_, the 2* builds are in edgy - dapper uses the 1.5 builds but you should be able to get higher than 1.5.0.3
[12:18] <RemyHome> snoops -  it says that the access path to the windows partition is /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[12:18] <thoreauputic> aaargh
[12:18] <RemyHome> but when I try to access that I get access denied
[12:18] <godmachine81> nolimitsoya:: im not doing this for kubuntu.. i use fluxbox.. and i dont want to use gtk settings in firefox
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Magnum_opus, that was for you, not MagicFab_
[12:19] <thoreauputic> sorry MagicFab_
[12:19] <cherubiel> RemyHome, whats your fstab entry?
[12:19] <RemyHome> cherubiel - noobie I am, how do I check ?  :-)
[12:19] <snoops> Remy try a chown on the drive sudo chown yourusername /tmp/disk-conf-hda1
[12:19] <cherubiel> RemyHome, open /etc/fstab - paste contents in a pastebin
[12:20] <nolimitsoya> RemyHome, alt+f2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:20] <cherubiel> RemyHome, its prolly the perms set on the mount
[12:20] <flodine> anyone using E17 and ubuntu that can help
[12:20] <cherubiel> !pastebin
[12:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:20] <cherubiel> RemyHome, ^^
[12:21] <snoops> cherubiel umm, he just wanted to mount his ntfs drive without rebooting.. it sounds like the system mounted it for him, but without access.. hence the chown
[12:21] <RemyHome> cherubiel - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28088/
[12:23] <sixth> hey
[12:23] <exhale> heyo
[12:23] <sixth> i edited alsamixer
[12:23] <sixth> how do i refresh?
[12:23] <sixth> i reopened xmms
[12:23] <RemyHome> snoops  - wierd.  if I try the chown, I get chown: cannot access `/tmp/disk-conf-hda1': No such file or directory
[12:23] <cherubiel> RemyHome, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:23] <Magnum_opus> thoreauputic: does that mean that I have to upgrade my OS to edgy to be able to get the latest firefox?
[12:23] <sixth> still no change
[12:23] <snoops> you can umount the drive, then do a mkdir for the name you want to give it.. eg 'sudo umount /dev/hda1' then 'sudo mkdir /media/hda1' then a 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1'
[12:23] <thoreauputic> sixth, ?
[12:23] <cherubiel> RemyHome, type mount first
[12:23] <thoreauputic> MagicFab_, within the package manager, yes
[12:23] <sixth> thoreauputic, i changed it to 6ch, and exited
[12:24] <cherubiel> RemyHome, is the ntfs part mounted on the first hand?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Magnum_opus, argh tab complete error again sorry
[12:24] <Magnum_opus> hehe
[12:24] <RemyHome> nope sure, I'll read that link, thanks :)
[12:24] <thoreauputic> sixth, alsamixer is just like the volume control - it is instant
[12:24] <RemyHome> nope = not
[12:24] <nolimitsoya> sixth, you wont get 6ch sound from a 2ch file. that would be broken behaviour
[12:24] <Magnum_opus> merci
[12:24] <valehru_123> Hey guys, I just upgraded to edgy and now when I try to use skype I get the following error: problem with sound device: skype 1.3beta
[12:25] <sixth> nolimitsoya, i have 5.1 speakers, i want to hear from all of them
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> sixth, as i said...
[12:25] <cherubiel> RemyHome, you need to have the mount point(place on the hdd where you are mounting the fs) already existing
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Magnum_opus, you can install the Mozilla tarball of course - but if you do that keep the ubuntu one as well
[12:25] <nolimitsoya> valehru_123, #ubuntu+1
[12:25] <sixth> nolimitsoya, on windows its possible, it should be possible on ubuntu as well
[12:26] <nolimitsoya> sixth, doesnt change the fact that you have a 2ch file. there is no info to play in the surround/center channel. its just not there. you have to do upmixing to get sound in the other speakers, and upmixing is horrible
[12:26] <nolimitsoya> try a dvd instead
[12:26] <RemyHome> cherubiel, snoops - thanks for your help.  working fine now, I just had to unmount it and mount it again !  cheers :)
[12:26] <nolimitsoya> (a dvd with surround sound, that is)
[12:27] <snoops> cool bananas RemyHome
[12:28] <sixth> nolimitsoya, the point is making the 5.1 work for my music, plus, when i turn the volume up, it starts to sound crappy
[12:29] <Shadowthrone> My Windows partition is mounted, but how do I view files that are on it?
[12:29] <greenman> this doesn't make any sense, i can see that apache has all rights and privileges with a file, and yet it can't find it...
[12:29] <nolimitsoya> sixth, and ive explained that you cant get 6ch sound from a 2ch file without upmixing. whats so hard to understand? the "crappy sound" from turning the volume up is clipping in some stage of the sound chain. isolate that chain, and turn gain down before/in
[12:29] <greenman> doesn't make any sense.  it's in the /var/www tree
[12:29] <Magnum_opus> I LOVE UBUNTU - sorry for caps   :]    gn
[12:30] <nolimitsoya> Magnum_opus, those words should always be in caps ;)
[12:30] <snoops> Shadowthrone navigate to the path where it's mounted in nautilus or konqueror
[12:30] <Magnum_opus> he he
[12:30] <Magnum_opus> my girl left me because of it, but I don't cry  :))
[12:31] <cherubiel> Shadowthrone, typing mount will show where each fs is mounted; you could either use the terminal or any file managers to navigate to that location
[12:31] <nolimitsoya> bah, just get a gril thats as geeky as you ;P
[12:31] <nolimitsoya> *girl
[12:31] <nolimitsoya> or one with a .jpg afix :)
[12:32] <Shadowthrone> cherubiel: Awesome, thank you.
[12:32] <greenman> arg
[12:32] <greenman> it doesn't make any sense
[12:32] <Magnum_opus> nolimitsoya: I wish  ;)   (but pvt is not alowed in here I think)  :)
[12:32] <Mikel0> !java
[12:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:32] <greenman> The requested URL /wordpress/wp-content/themes/stripes/style.css was not found on this server.
[12:33] <greenman> it's right there dangit
[12:33] <nolimitsoya> Magnum_opus, pvt?
[12:33] <mneptok> and it can be read by the httpd user?
[12:34] <greenman> mneptok: yup.  www-data pwns all of /var/www
[12:34] <Magnum_opus> nolimitsoya: ok, but pvt is blocked here
[12:34] <greenman> pvt?
[12:34] <greenman> oh, nm, i thought was to me
[12:34] <nolimitsoya> greenman, thats what i wanted to know to :)
[12:35] <nolimitsoya> whats pvt?
[12:35] <nolimitsoya> or did you mean private?
[12:35] <Magnum_opus> private, yet - what is pvt?
[12:35] <Magnum_opus> :)
[12:35] <Magnum_opus> yes
[12:36] <Enselic> Is there a way to increase the number of items in Recent Documents?
[12:38] <whyso> i had a problem with azureus (popup wont go away), is there a version that works?
[12:38] <nolimitsoya> whyso, utorrent and wine is the best torrent solution ive found yet
[12:38] <mneptok> whyso: get the latest beta from sf.net
[12:38] <mneptok> whyso: bug is fixed in that version
[12:39] <greenman> does anyone have a clue about my stupid problem?  last thing i need to fix before bed...  :(
[12:39] <whyso> oh, cool i didnt know utorrent was on linux!
[12:39] <whyso> thanks mne and nol
[12:39] <mneptok> whyso: it's not. he said "utorrent and wine"
[12:39] <nolimitsoya> whyso, itisnt. :) but it runs through wine with little problems
[12:39] <nolimitsoya> greenman, tried apache support?
[12:40] <greenman> yeah, no help there
[12:40] <nolimitsoya> :/
[12:40] <greenman> they've completely ignored me
[12:40] <nolimitsoya> greenman, chmod?
[12:40] <nolimitsoya> on the dir, i mean...
[12:40] <mneptok> greenman: URL?
[12:41] <greenman> nolimitsoya: yeah I made all /var/www owned by www-data (apache) and that folder is 777, and i know the dir is at least read
[12:41] <nolimitsoya> greenman, what about chown then?
[12:41] <greenman> mneptok: www.bearfootden.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/stripes/style.css
[12:41] <NineTeen67Comet> grrr .. why do I have to have Mozilla when I've already got Firefox. (Democracy Player depends on Mozilla.. but STILL)...
[12:42] <Magnum_opus> bbl
[12:42] <greenman> nolimitsoya: what do you mean?  i chowned /var/www to be owned by www-data
[12:42] <mneptok> greenman: none of the dirs in that URL are accessible
[12:42] <greenman> Recurs
[12:42] <nolimitsoya> greenman, ok, i got no clue then :)
[12:43] <greenman> mneptok: i know, that's the problem
[12:43] <vorbote> NineTeen67Comet: That's a packaging bug.
[12:43] <greenman> mneptok: if you go to tamarisk.bearfootden.com it works
[12:43] <mneptok> greenman: what is apache's root dir for that domain? is it correct?
[12:43] <greenman> but the stylesheet doesn't show up
[12:43] <sixth> nolimitsoya, it is possible, someone enabled it for me on fbsd
[12:43] <sixth> and it works for me on my winxp
[12:43] <Aquarion> It's not under /images is it?
[12:44] <nolimitsoya> sixth,yes, thats called upmixing. have you taken in anything i said?
[12:44] <teledyn> thank you ubuntu for having a sane package mgmt system which uninstalls automatically auxilliary packages that were installed with the original package
[12:44] <mneptok> greenman: then you need to resolve the issue between the DOCROOT for the server as a whole and the DOCROOT for the tamarisk vhost
[12:44] <nolimitsoya> teledyn, dont know if that was sarkasm, but aptitude and edgy synaptic does that
[12:44] <teledyn> i know aptitude does this but apt in ubuntu does it by default  :-)
[12:45] <greenman> mneptok: any idea how, i'm completely frazzled
[12:45] <mneptok> greenman: your DOCROOT is wrong
[12:45] <mneptok> greenman: http://tamarisk.bearfootden.com/wp-content/themes/stripes/style.css
[12:45] <greenman> docroot for tamarisk.bearfootden.com is /var/www/wordpress
[12:45] <sixth> nolimitsoya, how do i do that?
[12:45] <mneptok> greenman: remove "wordpress" from your DOCROOT
[12:45] <teledyn> nolimitsoya: not at all.  yes apt in edgy
[12:45] <nolimitsoya> sixth, that should be done in your player. but not at all, imho.
[12:45] <greenman> the docroot for main is /var/www
[12:46] <mneptok> greenman: right, so if "wordpress" is in the docroot, why are you again supllying it in a URL?
[12:46] <NineTeen67Comet> vorbote: Do you know if I can manually toss Mozilla w/out ill effects to Democracy player? .. Dependency issues are so evil ..
[12:46] <sixth> nolimitsoya, could it be done on xmms? i would like to hear it myself
[12:46] <nolimitsoya> sixth, i have no idea. and as stated, the whole idea of upmixing 2ch material, is just a broked thought
[12:47] <ramvi> I just installed edgy RC on a laptop here. I have to use acpi=off to get it to start up. It works perfectly - for 3 min, then all the hardware is disconnected in a way. The external mouse stops to work and I'm disconnected from the internet. What can be wrong? What should I do?
[12:47] <nolimitsoya> its an effective way to kill every possibility of a good 2ch encoding
[12:47] <greenman> this all worked in gentoo. :)  i just gotta figure out how to get it to work here....
[12:47] <mneptok> greenman: i just told you the problem
[12:47] <ramvi> And if I try to do something it hangs
[12:47] <NineTeen67Comet> ramvi: have you asked in #ubuntu+1 .. that's the Edgy room ..
[12:48] <mneptok> greenman: you are trying to get to a URL with "wordpress" in it, and that "wordpress" dir is *aready defined as part of the docroot path*
[12:48] <greenman> mneptok: i'm not sure how to fix it though, if i take wordpress out of docroot then the page disapears
[12:48] <zandaa> hi
[12:48] <mneptok> greenman: are you trying to have different content at the 2 different domains?
[12:49] <greenman> mneptok: yeah.  bearfootden.com is different than tamarisk.bearfootden.com
[12:49] <zandaa> can anyone help me get my sound to work? I can't get it to work using the on-board soundcard... it was working fine before and now it's malfunctioning
[12:50] <mneptok> greenman: then each should have a unique dir in /var/www/html and each should have a unique docroot assigned
[12:50] <nomad111> hey all, configure: error: please install the kernel source or specify alternate location, where do i get that from
[12:50] <nomad111> wat is the package name
[12:51] <barata> hi guys, anybody uses gaim as a client of google-talk?
[12:51] <vorbote> ramvi: please go to #ubuntu+1. edgy hasn't been released yet.
[12:51] <barata> how to port gaim with google-talk?
[12:51] <nolimitsoya> nomad111, get build-essential, and search synaptic for kernel headers
[12:51] <greenman> mneptok: i don't have a /var/www/html
[12:51] <mneptok> greenman: so make one
[12:51] <Rookie-> !libxine-extracodecs
[12:51] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:51] <barata> else .... is there a way to use google-talk under linux
[12:51] <barata> this site GAIM can: http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
[12:51] <mneptok> barata: GAIM already does GT
[12:51] <greenman> mneptok: so you're saying move everything from /var/www/ to /var/www/html?
[12:52] <barata> mneptok, yes but HOW?
[12:52] <snowblink> barata, http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[12:52] <barata> thanks snowblink
[12:52] <mneptok> greenman: no. i'm saying that each and every vhost should have a directory that is unique to it in /var/www/html (e.g. /var/www/html/tamarisk and /var/www/html/bearfoot)
[12:53] <Link9618> I wasn't able to update my list of add on programs
[12:54] <greenman> mneptok: that happens, /var/www/wordpress/ /var/www/michael /var/www/slf    those three correspond to tamarisk.bearfootden.com michael.bearfootden.com and slfcolumbia.org
[12:54] <nomad111> nolimitsoya: for kernel headers do i get the package called kernel-package
[12:54] <mneptok> greenman: so then *stop trying to add "wordpress" into the URLs you give*
[12:54] <nolimitsoya> nomad111, no, search kernel headers corresponding to you kernel version
[12:54] <thoreauputic> nomad111,  linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:54] <nomad111> or linux-headersoh
[12:54] <mneptok> greenman: sorry, must go. do some reading about apache vhosts.
[12:54] <nomad111> oh i get
[12:55] <thoreauputic> nolimitsoya, ubuntu uses "linux-headers "
[12:55] <greenman> thanks for trying
[12:55] <Link9618> How do I update my list of add on programs I don't see firestarter
[12:55] <nomad111> is centrino core duo classified i386 or i686
[12:55] <nolimitsoya> thoreauputic, yes, the idea was for him to search synaptic, not for me to give him the package name :)
[12:55] <nomad111> just a general question
[12:55] <nolimitsoya> i686
[12:55] <jmspeex_> nomad111: i686, which is a subset of i386 anyway
[12:56] <Link9618> I can't install it using the apt-get command and it's not on the list
[12:56] <infidel> what script calls the deamons from rc5.d?
[12:56] <nomad111> coz it says i386 on ubuntu and when i had suse it said i686
[12:56] <kleinlappies> hello to all
[12:56] <thoreauputic> nolimitsoya, IIRC there were kernel-headers in dapper ( I'm on edgy atm) but they related to ancient 2.4 kernels...
[12:56] <barata> thanks to snowblink & mneptok, it works now
[12:57] <barata> :)
[12:57] <kleinlappies> i have a Q. on my ubuntu (dapper) i can't connect to irc or download my mail. has this happened to anyone?
[12:57] <Enselic> Does any one one how accurate the 25th of October is as realease day for Edgy Eft?
[12:57] <jmspeex_> nomad111: what says that? Also, keep in mind that i386 will just work everywhere
[12:57] <Enselic> 26th*
[12:57] <axa-axa> what changes should I make in /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz file to make AltGr behave same as Alt?
[12:57] <nomad111> jmspeex_: when i do uname -a i see it
[12:57] <_dav> hey, I don't understand virtual packages blocking my install. Can anyone explain what this means? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:57] <jmspeex_> Enselic: I'm running Edgy RC (with updates) with no more problem than Dapper at the moment.
[12:58] <_dav>   mysql-server-5.0: Depends: libdbi-perl which is a virtual package.
[12:58] <thoreauputic> jmspeex_, except on ppc :)
[12:58] <jmspeex_> nomad111: uname just gives you the kernel you're currently using. Many distros give a a i386 kernel by default and then you can install the i686 if you want.
[12:59] <Link9618> any ideas?
[12:59] <axa-axa> anyone?
[12:59] <_dav> Need to get 28.6MB/31.2MB of archives. After unpacking 71.4MB will be used.
[12:59] <_dav> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:59] <_dav>   mysql-server-5.0: Depends: libdbi-perl which is a virtual package.
[12:59] <_dav>   mysql-client-5.0: Depends: libdbi-perl which is a virtual package.
[12:59] <_dav>                     Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl (>= 1.2202) which is a virtual package.
[12:59] <jmspeex_> thoreauputic: ppc, never heard of that. Is that like a 286? :-)
[12:59] <_dav> sorry, argh
[12:59] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | _dav
[12:59] <ubotu> _dav: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:59] <_dav> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28090/
[01:00] <_dav> I used the pastebin, but forgot to copy the URL :(
[01:00] <thoreauputic> jmspeex_, *cough* I like my iBook G4 running Ubuntu, thanks :)
[01:00] <axa-axa> what changes should I make in /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz file to make AltGr behave same as Alt?
[01:00] <_dav> anyway, can anyone help me understand why those virtual packages are blocking my package install, and how to resolove the problem?
[01:01] <_dav> (please :( )
[01:01] <jmspeex_> It's a shame Edgy AMD64 doesn't run properly on that laptop.
[01:01] <meson_ray> does anyone have any good ideas on how to install ubunto onto a small partition?  i have several other partitions but cannot resize/reformat them now, but i can store files on them
[01:01] <meson_ray> *ubuntu
[01:02] <Link9618> noone knows?
[01:02] <meson_ray> it's about 2 gigs of space on the blank partition
[01:02] <nolimitsoya> meson_ray, use debian, and do a net install. install only the packages you need
[01:02] <_dav> can anyone help?
[01:02] <meson_ray> well, i generally use a lot of packages though
[01:03] <jmspeex_> meson_ray: You can always install /usr on another partition if you have free space there.
[01:03] <meson_ray> i have free space
[01:03] <Enselic> jmspeex_: When they relase the non RC version, will I need to reinsall then, or is the updates taking care of making it non-RC so to speak?
[01:03] <sixth> can i install java with apt-get?
[01:03] <kk_pdx> I think I'm in a similar boat. dead cdrom on a toughbook laptop, trying to get an install on there. it'll boot off a knoppix disc just fine, I think it might just be a very picky drive.
[01:03] <meson_ray> but i can't reformat the partition
[01:03] <nolimitsoya> meson_ray, then how do you figure you where gonna be able to make a small install?
[01:03] <kleinlappies> how can i check to c if my ubuntu system is dropping packages or blocking ports?
[01:03] <meson_ray> there is 30 gigs free on this computer
[01:03] <nolimitsoya> meson_ray, then use that sapce
[01:03] <nolimitsoya> *space
[01:04] <CarinArr> i have a thinkpad with the ctrl key in the wrong place (fn is bottom left) which is doing my head in.. i'm trying to use xmodmap to remap the key to control_l and xev says it does, but it still doesn't seem to function at all
[01:04] <jmspeex_> Enselic: No, as you update, you'll get the equivalent of the release version of Edgy (unless the installer really screwed up). That's what I'm running atm.
[01:04] <nolimitsoya> gpartedtakes care of resizing for you
[01:04] <meson_ray> but the problem is i can't repartition anything without breaking windows
[01:04] <CarinArr> any ideas?
[01:04] <Enselic> jmspeex_: Sounds great, that means I'm off to install Edgy Eft!! YAY!!
[01:04] <jmspeex_> meson_ray: breaking windows... sounds like a pretty good idea if you ask me!
[01:04] <nolimitsoya> meson_ray, use gparted and resize those partitions, to get enogh free spave
[01:04] <nolimitsoya> windows is broken. its not gpl ;)
[01:05] <jmspeex_> Enselic: If you have a 64-bit CPU, be careful. Mine didn't work and I had to install the 32-bit version.
[01:05] <meson_ray> i need windows for skype, and that's pretty much it.  as soon as they get skype with video for linux, that's what i'll use
[01:05] <Enselic> jmspeex_: Thanks for telling me, I should be safe though as Im using a 32bit machine
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> meson_ray: Sorry, I'm just looking now and having trouble following your question.  Could you try to put it all on one line or, better yet, take it to #ubuntu-classroom?
[01:05] <jmspeex_> meson_ray: Skype runs on Linux as well. Though I use Ekiga
[01:06] <meson_ray> jmspeex: skype does, but the video doesn't
[01:06] <kk_pdx> wow. this is going to be a bastardized install... using knoppix to install debian woody to install ubuntu-server to follow the encrypted filesystem install to do a ubuntu-desktop on this toughbook.
[01:06] <jmspeex_> meson_ray: Plus Skype doesn't even support Speex. What good is it? Pff!
[01:06] <meson_ray> tonyyarusso:  might be easier in #ubuntu-classroom
[01:07] <meson_ray> jmspeex_: as soon as i can convince my parents to NOT use skype, I could also rid myself of that partition
[01:07] <sixth> can i install java with apt-get?
[01:08] <cfc4n> I think you can!
[01:08] <nolimitsoya> sixth, search synaptic for java
[01:09] <kleinlappies> firewall help how do i configure my firewall?
[01:09] <letal> how can i change the standard linux-generic 386 to the 686 kernel? (I use edgy eft. and i dont wanna compile my kernel by myself)
[01:09] <jmspeex_> meson_ray: Get them to use xten, which is a SIP client, so compatible with lots of stuff. Hell, even Windows messenger would do.
[01:10] <meson_ray> jmspeex_: i've tried............
[01:10] <jmspeex_> letal: just apt-get it
[01:10] <nolimitsoya> letal, you dont. you shouldnt use anything but generic, and btw, #ubuntu+1 ;)
[01:10] <letal> nolimitsoya, ah thx
[01:10] <letal> :)
[01:11] <_dav> can anyone help me understand why virtual packages are blocking my install on 5.04? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28090/
[01:11] <meson_ray> i guess my question is really:  is there any way of spreading an ubuntu installation across several partitions without being able to mount them at boot?
[01:11] <sixth> nolimitsoya, i cant seem to find it
[01:12] <jmspeex_> Can someone explain to me how the Ubuntu bug fixing process works?
[01:12] <dgo> hi there. I have a problem using Vi 7, with arrows. It prints ABCD..any idea ?
[01:12] <nolimitsoya> sixth, enable all repos
[01:12] <sixth> whats repos?
[01:12] <jmspeex_> I'm getting the impression that nothing ever gets fixed, so either that's true or there's something I didn't understand somewhere.
[01:12] <DarkMageZ> jmspeex_, are you refering to any bugs in particular?
[01:13] <kleinlappies> ahoy any help regarding my email not downloading? setting are all good.
[01:13] <jmspeex_> DarkMageZ: I'm referring to the dozens of bug reports I filed, none of which got fixed.
[01:13] <cfc4n> How to used XGL ? what's the command about XGL?
[01:13] <jmspeex_> s/dozens/dozen/
[01:13] <jatt> jmspeex_: do you have an example? (bug number?)
[01:13] <sixth> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[01:13] <sixth> :(
[01:14] <jmspeex_> jatt: https://launchpad.net/people/jean-marc-valin/+reportedbugs
[01:14] <mjr> cfc4n, it's more complex than that; recommend waiting until it (or rather, aiglx) is supported out of the box with the whistles
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> sixth: Java's easy to get now, btw.
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> !java | sixth
[01:14] <ubotu> sixth: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:14] <jmspeex_> jatt: there's even a security one (not listed there) where basically any user can lock up the machine by requesting real-time priority.
[01:15] <exhale> !Multiverse repository
[01:15] <cfc4n> mjr Thanks !,I'm try to ````
[01:15] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with my sound? I think my alsa and gstreamer plugins got modprobe -r'd
[01:16] <kleinlappies> ahoy any help regarding my email not downloading? setting are all good.
[01:16] <DarkMageZ> jmspeex_, if you can find 1 more person for 55739 then it can be confirmed
[01:17] <kk_pdx> anyone have a good url for info on how to migrate a system from debian woody to ubuntu?
[01:17] <kk_pdx> checking the wiki now
[01:17] <incorrect> i was wondering how i find out what pages ubuntu server comes with, i guess i could just install it using chroot
[01:17] <incorrect> but i was hoping for a package db
[01:17] <nolimitsoya> kk_pdx, just change the repos, and install ubuntu-dekstop
[01:17] <nolimitsoya> *desktop
[01:17] <sixth> tonyyarusso, how do i get that "Multiverse repository" whatever that is
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse | sixth
[01:17] <ubotu> sixth: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> sixth: (ubotu is god)
[01:18] <sixth> thanks
[01:18] <kk_pdx> !debian
[01:18] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[01:18] <incorrect> what does ubuntu give me over debian? is it just more upto date?
[01:18] <music_man_nz> How can I get checkGmail to download please?
[01:19] <jatt> jmspeex_: I see. but 51476 looks rather strange... how do you know powernowd is the culprit? Not to mention ubuntu runs some niced processes per default and this doesn't avoid to run CPU-intensive tasks using full CPU speed...
[01:19] <bimberi> !gmail
[01:19] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[01:19] <jmspeex_> DarkMageZ: How am I supposed to find someone? Plus I'm not sure what good it would do. I submitted a security bug masked as confirmed, high priority. The fix is 2 lines to a config file and it's been sitting there for 3 months.
[01:19] <music_man_nz> Yeah but I would like a notifier please
[01:19] <giany911> i need a little help mounting a ntfs partition .. i enabled it using Gnome -> Administration -> Disks but when i go to check whats on it ..i get "the folder content could not be displayed you dont have the neccessary permission " ..what can i do?
[01:20] <jmspeex_> jatt: powernowd is the only process responsible for deciding when to increase the CPU speed. I don't see anything else that could be responsible for the bug.
[01:21] <PyR3X> Hey everyone, how come "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2" does not work?
[01:21] <giany911> i need a little help mounting a ntfs partition .. i enabled it using Gnome -> Administration -> Disks but when i go to check whats on it ..i get "the folder content could not be displayed you dont have the neccessary permission " ..what can i do?
[01:21] <nolimitsoya> giany911, chowm
[01:21] <nolimitsoya> *hown
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> **chown :P
[01:22] <giany911> huh ?
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> !libdvdcss | PyR3X
[01:22] <ubotu> PyR3X: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:22] <giany911> im new to this :)
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> giany911, chown -R username:username /folder, where username is your username, and folder is you folder
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs | giany911
[01:22] <ubotu> giany911: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:22] <nolimitsoya> (sudo that)
[01:22] <giany911> using a live cd ...my username is ubuntu right?
[01:23] <nolimitsoya> giany911, yes
[01:23] <music_man_nz> Is there a good Gmail notifier out there?
[01:23] <music_man_nz> Gnotify isn't that good
[01:23] <giany911> ty vm
[01:23] <whyso> hmmm when i try to join #python [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[01:23] <nolimitsoya> music_man_nz, tried the firefox plugin?
[01:23] <music_man_nz> I don't want to have to have firefox open...
[01:24] <jmspeex_> jatt: I assume powernowd is trying to make sure it doesn't raise the frequency for niced processes, but it probably gets confused in my case. The min freq behaviour I'm reporting is actually an unstable equilibrium state and any activity will break it (i.e. back to desired behaviour). I just upgraded to Edgy (which has the ondemand governor), so I don't paricularily care anymore.
[01:25] <PyR3X> how come sudo apt-get install w32codecs does not work either?
[01:25] <jmspeex_> PyR3X: w32codecs isn't in the "official" repository.
[01:25] <PyR3X> jmspeex_: I have all repositories enabled
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> PyR3X, they arnt in any ubuntu repo
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> *arent
[01:26] <giany911> nolimitsoya hmm ... more trouble .. i get chown: cannot access `/hd': No such file or directory should i writh /ubuntu/hd or what ... thats whats dispalyed in file browser
[01:26] <FTMichael> Is this the right channel to ask about an Edgy problem?
[01:26] <PyR3X> charlie@Nicole:~$ sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:26] <PyR3X> Reading package lists... Done
[01:26] <PyR3X> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:26] <PyR3X> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:26] <PyR3X> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:26] <PyR3X> is only available from another source
[01:26] <PyR3X> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[01:26] <PyR3X> thats the message I'm getting
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> giany911, you should have given the folder where your windows drive is mounted
[01:26] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | PyR3X
[01:26] <ubotu> PyR3X: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:27] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[01:27] <giany911> i got that thats the folder hd
[01:27] <giany911> but...
[01:27] <Chimere> Hi, can i install the lastest version of SDL (1.2.1.1) on Ubuntu? (runtime et developement files)
[01:27] <PyR3X> ok
[01:27] <nolimitsoya> giany911, whats the full path to where you mounted the drive?
[01:27] <FTMichael> I just upgraded to Edgy and now X won't start ... an error with GLcore
[01:27] <letal> PyR3X, use automatix thats pretty nice
[01:27] <kk_pdx> !sdl
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <PyR3X> letal: can't find that package either
[01:27] <mince> !gedit
[01:27] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[01:28] <giany911> i think i got it ..but now its ..doing stuff..
[01:28] <nolimitsoya> giany911, yes, thats the point ;)
[01:28] <mince> how can I install gedit ?
[01:28] <giany911> ty
[01:28] <Chimere> Ok. :)
[01:28] <jmspeex_> PyR3X: I said it's not in *any* of the Ubuntu repositories (for legal reasons). You need to find another source (google for it)
[01:28] <PyR3X> jmspeex_: thanks
[01:29] <letal> PyR3X, deb http://automatix.czessi.net/packages dapper stable
[01:29] <giany911> nolimitsoya after the long list i still cant access hd...the folder
[01:29] <FTMichael> !topic
[01:29] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:29] <letal> PyR3X, and u need that, wget http://automatix.czessi.net/packages/kczessi.gpg; sudo apt-key add kczessi.gpg; sudo apt-get update
[01:29] <nolimitsoya> giany911, ok, have you mounted it correctly, ahve you followed any guide to get ntfs support?
[01:29] <PyR3X> letal: what is automatix?
[01:29] <nolimitsoya> !automatix | PyR3X
[01:29] <ubotu> PyR3X: Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[01:30] <VGambit> where is the kernel tree in ubuntu?
[01:30] <letal> it installes a lot of standard soft
[01:30] <PyR3X> jmspeex_: Do I need to get libdvdcss2 separately to get encrypted dvd playback?
[01:30] <giany911> nolimitsoya i mounted the partition using disks in system -> administration
[01:30] <nolimitsoya> giany911, unmount it, and mount it manually
[01:30] <letal> PyR3X, like java, flash, nvidia, ati, codecs, ripping and so on
[01:30] <PyR3X> letal: I don't think I need that becaues I have all of that installed
[01:31] <jmspeex_> PyR3X: No idea, sorry.
[01:31] <nolimitsoya> giany911, the command to unmount is umount (no, thats not a typo) /dev/<the drive to unmount>
[01:31] <giany911> i know:D
[01:31] <giany911> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/hd -t ntfs
[01:31] <giany911>  is it ok ?
[01:31] <FTMichael> Any thoughts on Edgy not letting me into X because of a GLcore error?
[01:31] <nolimitsoya> giany911, yes
[01:32] <giany911> and now i chown again?
[01:32] <nolimitsoya> giany911, no, check if you can access it
[01:32] <rambo3> one more question . $dom->documentElement->appendChild() , this function doesnt append it add node as last node. how do i make dom add node as first node
[01:32] <giany911> nope still that permission thingy
[01:32] <nolimitsoya> chowning should not be done with the drive mounted :)
[01:33] <KenSentMe> FTMichael: you'd better ask your edgy questions in #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <giany911> aw ..so umount again ?
[01:33] <FTMichael> KenSentMe: Aha, thanks. :)
[01:34] <kleinlappies> anyone... my mail is not downloading what can be the problem?
[01:34] <nolimitsoya> kleinlappies, are you connected
[01:34] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya yes
[01:35] <VGambit> So I really have to completely recompile the kernel to install suspend2?
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> I have a built-in speaker on a desktop computer that plays system bell sounds, and played the little background music of the Win XP Home OEM-supplied end-user config stuff (which I declined).  How can I make all sounds (music, etc.) play through this speaker, rather than only through the headphone jack?
[01:35] <nolimitsoya> kleinlappies, is your mail-app configured correctly?
[01:35] <giany911> nolimitsoya this is really starting to bug me ..so i umounted ..and mkdir /mnt/hda chown /mnt/hda and mounted and i cant access /mnt/hda
[01:35] <nolimitsoya> giany911, thats strange :)
[01:35] <giany911> im on a live cd
[01:35] <giany911> btw
[01:35] <nolimitsoya> giany911, shouldnt differ
[01:36] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya yes it is. i have looked at eveything
[01:36] <nolimitsoya> kleinlappies, then your mailserver might be offline
[01:37] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya my pop and smtp are correct. mailserver is on (im in the office, all the oter comp. are getting their mail) could it be the firewall blocking it?
[01:37] <thefish> kleinlappies: on the computer that is not downloading mail, open a console and type "telnet mailservername 110"
[01:38] <nolimitsoya> giany911, are you sure hda is the right drive, btw?
[01:38] <giany911> nolimitsoya when i was using 5.10 . i think there was a -u=ubuntu in the mount command ..maybe that will do the trick ..but i cant remember exactly where to put it or how to write it
[01:38] <thefish> kleinlappies: then type "USER yourusername", it will respond with 250, then type "PASS yourpassword", then type list
[01:38] <giany911> yep thats it .. /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda
[01:38] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya k going to do that quickly (thanks)
[01:38] <thefish> kleinlappies: that should list all mail in your mailbox
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: You're the sound guy, right?  Any thoughts on my speaker thing?  (up 2 dozen lines)
[01:39] <thefish> kleinlappies: if it works, then you have a client problem (retype user/pass or try a different client)
[01:40] <c|int> okay guys, I'm back, after about 2 hours of redoing things..
[01:40] <Chimere> Can we compile for Windows in Linux? (i'm really a newbie)
[01:40] <nolimitsoya> giany911, fire up gparted and double check your drive designations
[01:40] <c|int> maybe it was, 1 hour and half, but now, yea I usin the nv, just the "nv" , I figured ou what needed to be done , with ubuntu on nvidia geforce fx for the edgy eft :)
[01:40] <c|int> chi
[01:40] <c|int> Chimere: , I run windows inside ubuntu,
[01:41] <giany911> nolimitsoya path /dev/hda1 Mounted on /mnt/hda
[01:41] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya i typed telnet pop.spitbraaiking.co.za --saying trining 1.0.0.0... (its just sitting there)
[01:41] <c|int> you can compile, the source codes, for windows applications, etc.. api, reverse engineer too
[01:43] <giany911> nolimitsoya still here dude?
[01:43] <nolimitsoya> giany911, yepp
[01:43] <nolimitsoya> though i dont know how to help you. :)
[01:43] <giany911> nolimitsoya i managed to remember the command i was talking about sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda -t ntfs -o uid=ubuntu
[01:43] <giany911> it works no
[01:43] <giany911> w
[01:43] <nolimitsoya> good :)
[01:43] <giany911> ty mv for your help:)
[01:43] <giany911> and 1 more problem
[01:44] <giany911> in windows my ip is found automatically using dhcp ... right ? ..and in ubuntu that doesnt happen .. and i dont know my dns and stuff ..gateway ..how can i have internet conn?
[01:45] <Sionide> giany911, it happens in my ubuntu...
[01:45] <giany911> so what do i do ?
[01:45] <nolimitsoya> giany911, your network should be dhcp configured...
[01:45] <c|int> did you set ubuntu up default, it will only set up for dhcp, unless you change it
[01:45] <giany911> i know ..this time it worked.. a few times ago it didnt..
[01:45] <gnomefreak> giany911: ubuntu is not windows please dont expect it to work the same. try ifconfig to view your gateway and ips
[01:45] <giany911> ifconfig ? not ip ?
[01:46] <frej> if = interface
[01:46] <giany911> im not bad mouthing ubuntu i love it :) .. i just need net
[01:46] <Chimere> Et Windows works well on Ubuntu? (i have a bad english)
[01:46] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya i c you busy. it says connection timed out. (telnet) its almost like a firewall blocking me.
[01:46] <J_P> hi all
[01:46] <nolimitsoya> kleinlappies, i wasnt the one who passed you the commands ;)
[01:46] <giany911>  a friend busted up his windows..and he needs to backup a couple off stuff before he formats the whole partition
[01:47] <kleinlappies> nolimitsoya sorry
[01:48] <variant> Chimere: you mean enemy teritory?
[01:48] <sam_> Hi Folks, I am running ubuntu edge x86_64 and I have 32bit firefox running through the linux32 command. The problem I am having is that flash does not have any sound. I have killed artsd and tried to run though aoss, but it is still silent. Is there something I am doing wrong?
[01:48] <giany911> i more thing .. hes got a sata hdd with only 1 partition .. i see only hda in dev.. is that ok ?
[01:48] <variant> Chimere: et has a linux version available
[01:48] <gebruiker> I want samba to share every home dir, and the account name of those usernames(homedirs) have to be the same as on the linux system. How do I do that?
[01:48] <variant> gebruiker: sata is sda normally
[01:49] <giany911> variant i belive thats my answer
[01:49] <kleinlappies> thefish its not connecting, could it be a fiewall blocking me? i ask cause it is my irc and my mail thats not working (connecting)
[01:49] <giany911> variant so its sda1 thats what i thought
[01:49] <variant> giany911: ye
[01:49] <giany911> thank you
[01:49] <nolimitsoya> giany911, thats if his satacontroller identifies itself as a scsi device. some dont
[01:49] <variant> giany911: hda is probably cdrom
[01:49] <thefish> kleinlappies: try "sudo iptables -L" in a console
[01:49] <giany911> oh ok
[01:49] <kleinlappies> thefish k
[01:49] <giany911> thanks all
[01:49] <giany911> good bye :D
[01:49] <variant> giany911: "eject /dev/hda"
[01:50] <variant> giany911: cya
[01:50] <kleinlappies> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[01:50] <kleinlappies> target     prot opt source               destination
[01:50] <kleinlappies> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[01:50] <kleinlappies> target     prot opt source               destination
[01:50] <kleinlappies> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[01:50] <kleinlappies> target     prot opt source               destination
[01:50] <kleinlappies> sorry
[01:51] <variant> kleinlappies: please dont flood liket hat, use rafb.net/nopaste or simmilar
[01:51] <kleinlappies> thefish what must it say (me stupid with this)
[01:51] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | kleinlappies
[01:51] <ubotu> kleinlappies: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:51] <thefish> kleinlappies: its not blocking anything
[01:51] <thefish> kleinlappies: can you connect to any other network resources with that computer?
[01:51] <Chimere> Thanks.
[01:52] <kleinlappies> thefish thats so funny (yes any resource on the network)
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> I have a built-in speaker on a desktop computer that plays system bell sounds, and played the little background music of the Win XP Home OEM-supplied end-user config stuff (which I declined).  How can I make all sounds (music, etc.) play through this speaker, rather than only through the headphone jack?
[01:52] <sixth>  sun-java5-bin depends on sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1); however:
[01:52] <sixth>   Package sun-java5-jre is not configured yet.
[01:52] <sixth> what does this mean?
[01:52] <thefish> kleinlappies: can you ping the mail server?
[01:52] <sixth> how do i "configure" sun-java5-jre?
[01:52] <kleinlappies> thefish let me try that quickly (do i go ping pop.spitbraaiking.co.za ?
[01:53] <dfm> hi all
[01:53] <letal> re
[01:53] <thefish> kleinlappies: spitbraaiking.co.za is on the interweb, or in your network?
[01:53] <boink> or maybe you can't ping it
[01:53] <kleinlappies> thefish im getting a reply
[01:54] <thefish> ok kleinlappies now "sudo apt-get install nmap"
[01:54] <c|int> anybody, just know the simple way.. for viewing chm.s in ubuntu, instead of that, gnochm or something
[01:54] <kleinlappies> thefish busy downloading
[01:54] <sixth>  sun-java5-bin depends on sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1); however:
[01:54] <sixth>   Package sun-java5-jre is not configured yet.
[01:54] <sixth> how do i "configure" sun-java5-jre?
[01:55] <thefish> kleinlappies: this mail server is hosted somewhere?
[01:55] <thefish> kleinlappies: or is it an internal server?
[01:55] <kleinlappies> thefish yes its a comp. called hetzner
[01:55] <bimberi> sixth: at a guess: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure sun-java5-jre'
[01:55] <c|int> bimberi:
[01:56] <c|int> what all, java packages, you think would be good for an IT, computer science, engineer etc
[01:56] <sixth> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: sun-java5-jre is broken or not fully installed
[01:56] <kleinlappies> thefish they host our website for us aswell www.hetzner.co.za
[01:56] <thefish> kleinlappies: aah good
[01:56] <thefish> so its external
[01:56] <kleinlappies> thefish ok done apt-get
[01:56] <sixth> bimberi, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: sun-java5-jre is broken or not fully installed
[01:56] <music_man_nz> Hi I am trying to connect my Palm m515 with gpilot and evolution. It worked fine the first tine (because it had no tasks I think) but now when I try and sync my todo list, it freezes on "Identifying user" and then wont close or open again
[01:56] <kleinlappies> thefish yes
[01:56] <bimberi> sixth: ew.  how about 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[01:56] <sixth> see bimberi , i have sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-bin
[01:57] <sixth> and they depend on each other
[01:57] <ETronik> music_man_nz, oh man ! you're in for a whole lot of trouble... I have given up on that
[01:57] <sixth> so i dont know how to install it
[01:57] <c|int> I run vmware as well, but I had issues with edgy , day ago, could'nt get Azureus up, and I changed nvidia driver reading nvidia, was some wierd things, then I redid, but I upgraded the system, and only did, apt-get install nvidia-glx, since nvidia-settings is already , however I upgraded everything, as well, to doing that install and config
[01:57] <thefish> kleinlappies: sudo nmap pop.spitbraaiking.co.za -p110
[01:57] <music_man_nz> great
[01:57] <bimberi> c|int: i don't understand the question
[01:57] <c|int> running on nv now
[01:57] <music_man_nz> great
[01:57] <c|int> ;)
[01:57] <ETronik> music_man_nz, although removing support for USB 2.0 solved the problem for me, wait a sec while a search the command
[01:57] <thefish> kleinlappies: we want to get something like "110/tcp open  pop3"
[01:57] <music_man_nz> um
[01:57] <music_man_nz> I connect using USB 2.0
[01:57] <c|int> safest extra repositories might want to check for eft?
[01:58] <c|int> or should I just, make and install, compile software I want of my own
[01:58] <kleinlappies> thefish it says 110/tcp open pop3
[01:58] <c|int> kl
[01:58] <c|int> kleinlappies: ,
[01:58] <c|int> do me :-)
[01:58] <boink> client: you could check with apt-cache
[01:58] <thefish> kleinlappies: that was from the computer that cannot download mail?
[01:59] <kleinlappies> thefish yes
[01:59] <thefish> kleinlappies: try again "telnet pop.spitbraaiking.co.za 110" on the no-mail computer
[01:59] <ETronik> music_man_nz, I have misplaced the command, ask here about removing the ehci module.... I guess I'll need that also, even though I moved all my aplm Apps to a windows PC acessed through rdesktop...
[02:00] <sixth> bimberi,
[02:00] <sixth> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/bin/  hierarchy
[02:00] <kleinlappies> thefish its going its working
[02:00] <boink> Connected to mail.spitbraaiking.co.za.
[02:00] <thefish> hahaha
[02:00] <kleinlappies> thefish thanks a mil
[02:00] <sixth> demo@sixth:~/Desktop/LimeWire$ whereis java
[02:00] <sixth> java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[02:00] <thefish> kleinlappies: you now have everyone in ubuntu trying your pop server :)
[02:00] <boink> though, it's better to use secure-imapd
[02:00] <sixth> why is this bimberi ?
[02:00] <music_man_nz> JPilot worked but you needed to push the sync button on the program as well as the one on the cradle
[02:00] <boink> though, it's better to use secure-pop I mean :P
[02:00] <bimberi> sixth: *shrug* (sorry)
[02:01] <sixth> no idea? :\
[02:01] <kleinlappies> thefish gonna go on to my next problem thanks again
[02:01] <music_man_nz> I can't seem to find Eclipse in the synaptic repository
[02:01] <bimberi> sixth: how about uninstalling & reinstalling?
[02:01] <thefish> kleinlappies: kyk noord ouboet
[02:01] <ETronik> multichil, that's the way it's supposed to be... there are bugs related to USB in the current kernel
[02:01] <ETronik> music_man_nz, , that's the way it's supposed to be... there are bugs related to USB in the current kernel
[02:01] <sixth> bimberi, uninstalling what? java?
[02:01] <variant> music_man_nz: apt-cache search eclipse
[02:01] <kleinlappies> thefish dankie sal so maak.
[02:01] <ETronik> multichil, sorry, wrong alias :)
[02:01] <bimberi> sixth: yes
[02:02] <puneit> How to add extra settings for a bluetooth modem
[02:02] <sixth> bimberi, i already did that
[02:02] <bimberi> sixth: k :/
[02:02] <sixth> :\
[02:02] <music_man_nz> and...
[02:02] <ETronik> music_man_nz, just remove the ehci module, and you'll see everything works like it was supposed to...
[02:02] <teledyn> what kernel for edgy supports smp?
[02:03] <music_man_nz> so should I ask how to remove the ehci module? Does that also mean I have to unplug from my USB 2 ports?
[02:03] <music_man_nz> ecj-bootstrap - bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler
[02:03] <music_man_nz> ecj-bootstrap-gcj - bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler (native version)
[02:03] <music_man_nz> openoffice.org-dev - OpenOffice.org SDK -- development files
[02:03] <music_man_nz> sorry
[02:03] <heroin> resently my server requires a keyboard to be attached for it to boot.. how to rape this feature out?
[02:03] <ETronik> music_man_nz, hmm no I don't think you need to remove fom those plugs
[02:03] <thefish> heroin: you want to rape a feature out?
[02:03] <music_man_nz> That is what I got when I typed in apt-cache search eclipse
[02:04] <heroin> thefish yes remove it i mean :) i love saying rape
[02:04] <thefish> hahahaha
[02:04] <music_man_nz> should I look online on how to remove the ehci module?
[02:04] <thefish> heroin: there should be a setting in BIOS: halt on....
[02:04] <heroin> rape is going to b the new fuck :)
[02:04] <thefish> heroin: change it to halt on NO ERROR
[02:04] <Lynoure> !coc
[02:04] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:04] <heroin> thefish i think its when the kernel is booting that it halts
[02:05] <thefish> never seen that
[02:05] <heroin> thefish but ill check bios sometime
[02:05] <thefish> i have loads of keyboardless boxen that work fine like that
[02:05] <heroin> it used to work fine
[02:05] <alumnos_> jajaajajaja
[02:05] <heroin> but ever since people started hacking my boxes :S
[02:05] <alumnos_> hi
[02:05] <music_man_nz> sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd ?
[02:06] <heroin> some polish and thaiwan dudes tried 2 hax me
[02:06] <heroin> howto rape them?
[02:06] <ETronik> music_man_nz, I think the cmd is: rmmod ehci-hcd
[02:06] <Lynoure> !swearing
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swearing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <heroin> lol
[02:07] <heroin> lynoure saying rape isnt swearing
[02:07] <Lynoure> Pah, cannot remember it. But it is there
[02:07] <heroin> !coc
[02:07] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:07] <tolonuga> hi
[02:07] <Lynoure> heroin: No, it's just rude and unrelated
[02:07] <music_man_nz> ok I did it
[02:08] <heroin> no its an expression of my view on the english language
[02:08] <bun-bun> how do you change the default application for a given file type?
[02:08] <music_man_nz> my external DVD writer gave me a little beep
[02:08] <heroin> Any talented prgms here who wanne do a small project?
[02:08] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[02:08] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:08] <Lynoure> heroin: well, it's still not suitable here.
[02:08] <manradjan> hello
[02:08] <music_man_nz> How can I get it back?
[02:08] <thefish> heroin: i agree buddy, keep the tone nice and family - there is a big mix of people here
[02:08] <mneptok> heroin: it's cheap and lurid. you can prolly do better.
[02:08] <tolonuga> yesterday I installed kubuntu edgy and it worked ok, but today the video stays black once X11 is started. no error messages in the Xorg.0.log, and trying different x11 servers (vesa, i810) didn't help either. maybe it is a known problem or someone knows how to debug a "screen turns and stays black" situation?
[02:08] <heroin> fine i wont say r* again
[02:08] <thefish> heroin: if you are in a private query then fine
[02:09] <heroin> Any talented prgms here who wanne do a small project?
[02:09] <sixth> is there any easy way to install wine?
[02:09] <music_man_nz> ETronik?
[02:09] <heroin> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:09] <bimberi> !wine
[02:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:09] <heroin> hows that 4 easy
[02:09] <thefish> sixth: try codeweavers' crossover office - you pay for it, but it simplifies wine a *lot*
[02:09] <bun-bun> bimberi# it doesn't work?
[02:09] <heroin> mneptok can i msg u?
[02:09] <manradjan> I'm having troubles with the installer: the manual partitioner doesn't display the partitions on my hda drive, but does correctly on the hdb drive
[02:10] <sixth> heroin, so simple that it doesnt work :P
[02:10] <sixth> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:10] <bimberi> sixth: bun-bun is referring to !defaultapp :)
[02:10] <heroin> sixth please go to the wiki :) that always helps and otherwise ask these nice chaps here
[02:10] <bun-bun> i'm looking at the "Open With" tab in the file properties, but i'm unable to select anything else
[02:10] <heroin> Any talented prgms here who wanne do a small project? I want to create a frontrow clone for linux
[02:11] <bimberi> bun-bun: click on Add...
[02:11] <smotang> Dear god, Science is getting out of hand
[02:11] <smotang> haha
[02:11] <smotang> Wow im pessimistic :(
[02:11] <heroin> and not making sense
[02:11] <bun-bun> bimberi# it's showing me 4 different apps to choose from, it's just not letting me select any of them
[02:11] <smotang> and this is the wrong channel mybad
[02:12] <ETronik> music
[02:13] <bimberi> bun-bun: hrm, works fine here
[02:14] <Nameeater> why would a gnome applet not be showing up when I right click a panel and choose Add applet?
[02:16] <manradjan> anyone knows why the partitioner doesn't show my partitions?
[02:18] <music_man_nz> Palm still not working
[02:18] <phear_> How do I add a library path? Ubuntu doesn't seem to care about my ld.so.conf
[02:19] <music_man_nz> Would someone be able to help me sync my palm?
[02:19] <music_man_nz> Please?
[02:19] <Lynoure> music_man_nz: Maybe
[02:20] <music_man_nz> Well I have a Palm m515 and I would like to syn it with Evolution. It is all set up with ids but when I push hotsync it freezes on "Identifying User"
[02:20] <Lynoure> music_man_nz: I get kernel oops when I try mine and it is supposed to be fixed in kernel 2.6.17 :/
[02:20] <Lynoure> music_man_nz: look at dmesg
[02:21] <music_man_nz> ETronik gave me the command: rmmod ehci-hcd to use but it didn't work
[02:21] <music_man_nz> so
[02:21] <music_man_nz> It can't be fixed now
[02:21] <Lynoure> music_man_nz: if it is caused by this, no, but there can be some other reason
[02:21] <music_man_nz> sigh
[02:22] <defrysk> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php?firsttime=true
[02:22] <music_man_nz> Worked with JPilot
[02:22] <defrysk> ik kwam uit op ubuntu
[02:22] <ETronik> music_man_nz, I had that very same problem, as soon as I discovered the command to remove the USB 2.0 support, everything started working just fine , including with Evolution
[02:22] <music_man_nz> Yeah
[02:22] <music_man_nz> I did that command
[02:23] <Lynoure> music_man_nz: look at the  dmesg , please and se if there is a null dereference there... But if you get a newer kernel, e.g. go edgy or compile one yourself, the rumour is you'll get it working
[02:23] <Enselic> How do I actiavte the neat 3d effects in 6.10?
[02:23] <ETronik> music_man_nz, althoug I'm not 100% sure about the command I gave you... I had to reasearch it again in a hurry and probably ain't that one exactly...
[02:23] <Lynoure> s/se/see
[02:23] <music_man_nz> btw thanks for all your help
[02:24] <music_man_nz> I am not really inclined to compile my own kernal thing. I think I may just have to use JPilot sigh
[02:24] <linopil> hi guys , what do you use to print from firefox to pdf file ?
[02:24] <music_man_nz> OpenOffice?
[02:24] <Lynoure> ETronik: you can sync your Palm fine?
[02:25] <ETronik> Lynoure, well I got it to work, but functionally it was useless so  I gave up on it,
[02:25] <music_man_nz> How can I get that thing back that I did the command link to delete?
[02:25] <bina> linopil: i think when you do print to file it puts it to ps then you can run a prog to convert the ps to pdf (i think its just ps2pdf)
[02:26] <ETronik> music_man_nz, try this command:  sudo /sbin/rmmod ehci_hcd
[02:26] <bina> linopil: I thought you could just select a PDF printer from the list though
[02:26] <Lynoure> ETronik: With sligtly earlier kernel it worked one sych per boot, then it got worse
[02:26] <ETronik> music_man_nz, oops it's the same thing... probably just missing the crucial sudo !
[02:26] <ETronik> Lynoure, yeah I know, I've been through that !
[02:26] <music_man_nz> ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:27] <music_man_nz> oh I did the command you gave me before, I did su prior
[02:27] <ETronik> Lynoure, what I do now, is I installed all my desktop Palm Apps into a windows machine (next to me) and I now access it though Remote desktop (which is BTW much faster than Win4Lin, Wine, whatever...)
[02:28] <music_man_nz> so can I get back that module?
[02:28] <ETronik> music_man_nz, and still U cannot sync ?? then all I can say is to search in UbuntuForums or wait for the new kernel...
[02:28] <music_man_nz> when is that due?
[02:29] <Lynoure> ETronik: I think I'll try if things are better with the kernel that comes with edgy and fit not, see if there is something I can do
[02:29] <ETronik> music_man_nz, Lynoure : concerning this USB thing, I almost to give up on Ubuntu overall, until I remembered to try remote desktop - it's working like a charm !
[02:29] <Lynoure> music_man_nz: now, if you go to edgy rc
[02:29] <PapaLion> hey everyone - I just did a new install and my resolution is stuck as only a small part of the screen
[02:29] <PapaLion> I am running on a laptop, and the livecd does the same thing
[02:29] <PapaLion> any ideas?
[02:30] <hintswen> i just set yo mysql and i acidently set the password to something and i don't know how to change it
[02:30] <ETronik> gotta go, good luck music_man_nz Lynoure
[02:30] <Lynoure> ETronik: I got that feeling too
[02:30] <Enselic> !aiglx
[02:30] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[02:30] <music_man_nz> Thanks Etronik
[02:30] <music_man_nz> So how can I get the module back anyone?
[02:30] <G0oW> what is the sudo command to install gcc?
[02:30] <tsol> ,
[02:31] <ETronik> music_man_nz, modprobe or something like that
[02:31] <DarkMageZ> G0oW, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:31] <music_man_nz> lol ok
[02:31] <ETronik> music_man_nz, modprobe ehci...
[02:31] <G0oW> ty, DarkMageZ
[02:31] <music_man_nz> thanks
[02:31] <music_man_nz> not found... lol
[02:31] <DarkMageZ> G0oW, what are you planning on building anways?
[02:32] <PapaLion> how can I change my screen resolution?
[02:32] <PapaLion> im stuck with a very small screen
[02:32] <G0oW> going to mess aroun
[02:32] <PapaLion> :(
[02:32] <riddlebox> can someone help me I need to downgrade my kernel to 2.6.15-23-386
[02:32] <G0oW> i just got into *nix
[02:32] <G0oW> i wanna get my feet wet ;] 
[02:32] <Distro^Junkie> can someone tell me why my monitor module wouldn't be loading ?
[02:32] <hintswen> can someone please tell me how to change SQL password
[02:33] <riddlebox> hintswen, the easiest way to do that is to install phpmysqladmin
[02:33] <G0oW> im pretty good with some languages, java,c,c++,.net and a few others
[02:33] <hintswen> what's the command for that xD
[02:34] <DarkMageZ> G0oW, oh good :). you'd be surprised @ how many people plan to build something that's already been packaged
[02:34] <G0oW> =P
[02:35] <hintswen> riddlebox, what's the command to install phpmysqladmin? "aptitude install phpmysqladmin"?
[02:35] <G0oW> i plan on learning perl,xss, and some other's hopefully...
[02:35] <riddlebox> hintswen, I guess I never use aptitude
[02:35] <hintswen> it looks like it's working. thanks
[02:36] <hintswen> now i better go, this room makes my logs get huge
[02:36] <thefish> hintswen: mysql? if so mysqladmin -uroot -poldpassword password 'newpassword'
[02:36] <hintswen> thanks thefish
[02:36] <manradjan> Does anyone know why in step 5 "prepare partitions", it says that my hardrive is completely unallocated space, while there are partitions on it (it doesn't show them)
[02:36] <PapaLion> How can I change my screen resolution?
[02:37] <defrysk> PapaLion, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:37] <manradjan> would deleting my old linux partitions help solve it ?
[02:37] <hintswen> looks like phpmysqladmin didn't work :(
[02:37] <riddlebox> can someone help me I need to downgrade my kernel to 2.6.15-23-386
[02:37] <teledyn> what kernel for edgy supports smp?
[02:38] <greenman> how do i use ssh?
[02:38] <greenman> i can't ssh into the box i just set up
[02:38] <njan> greenman, did you install SSH on it?
[02:38] <njan> ubuntu doesn't install the sshd by default
[02:38] <greenman> i tried /etc/init.d/sshd and there wasn't anything there
[02:38] <PapaLion> defrysk: thanks, ill give it a shot
[02:38] <defrysk> teledyn, linux-generic supports that
[02:39] <greenman> i tried sudo aptitude install sshd and it didn't install anything..
[02:39] <greenman> i'm at a loss, if i can't install it and it's not there how do you use it?
[02:39] <njan> greenman, apt-get install ssh
[02:39] <greenman> njan that covers sshd too?
[02:39] <njan> yup.
[02:39] <greenman> okay thanks
[02:40] <teledyn> defrysk: what's the difference between linux-generic and linux-386?
[02:40] <njan> greenman, ssh has openssh-client and openssh-server as dependencies.
[02:40] <njan> greenman, ubuntu only installs openssh-client by default.
[02:40] <greenman> thanks
[02:40] <njan> np
[02:41] <defrysk> teledyn, the default kernel during install is 386
[02:42] <defrysk> linux-generic has obsoleted the k7 and other linux images
[02:42] <defrysk> exept amd64 of course
[02:42] <kleinlappies> thefish ok so all the messages on my server are in my inbox --cool
[02:43] <kleinlappies> thefish is there any simple reason why i can't send or forward a email
[02:43] <Tjoels> edgy is to be released tomorrow, isn't it? :P
[02:43] <Lynoure> I think on 26th
[02:43] <Tjoels> oh, ok
[02:44] <Lynoure> But I could be off by one :)
[02:44] <gnomefreak> 26th-27th
[02:44] <thefish> kleinlappies: there are a number of possibilities, do you get a non delivery report back?
[02:44] <Tjoels> i am so looking forward to the release
[02:44] <gnomefreak> depends where you are
[02:44] <kleinlappies> thefish no it just does not send it. a connection error
[02:44] <Tjoels> huh? i'm on the internet dude!
[02:45] <Tjoels> is there a ubuntu channel for non-support talk, like general talk?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Tjoels: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:45] <Tjoels> thanks
[02:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:46] <Enselic> !compiz
[02:46] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:46] <thefish> kleinlappies: msg me (/msg thefish)
[02:47] <cake__> any edgy users running xen here?
[02:47] <cake__> seems packages are messed up?
[02:47] <cake__> getting errors on install
[02:47] <thefish> kleinlappies: ok, now you need to connect to port 25 on the host
[02:47] <teledyn_z> tried booting linux-generic kernel. it hangs at "waiting for root filesystem"
[02:47] <kleinlappies> thefish the message says sending of message failed
[02:49] <teledyn_z> looks like it choked on the new uuid grub entry
[02:50] <kleinlappies> thefish if i say ping smtp.sbk.co.za i get a reply
[02:50] <teledyn_z> what's the grub device syntax?  hda0,1  ?
[02:51] <thefish> kleinlappies: check your query window!
[02:51] <snoops> teledyn_z umm hd(0,1) I believe
[02:52] <kleinlappies> thefish im there
[02:52] <variant> teledyn_z: (hd0,0) = /dev/hda1
[02:52] <dj_baggio> how can I empty my trash?
[02:52] <thefish> kleinlappies: what irc program are you using?
[02:53] <dj_baggio> of course I want to know console command :)
[02:53] <thefish> kleinlappies: check for a new tab/window from me
[02:54] <Abst> dj_baggio: rm -rfv ~/.Trash/*?
[02:54] <kleinlappies> thefish i can c you
[02:54] <thefish> kleinlappies: so type back there!
[02:54] <dj_baggio> Abst: thx
[02:54] <kleinlappies> thefish ok
[02:54] <Abst> Np
[02:55] <thefish> kleinlappies: i think you missed the point, never mind
[02:55] <kleinlappies> thefish so i went sudo nmap pop.sbk.co.za -p25
[02:55] <teledyn_z> still get the error without uuid in grub kernel line
[02:55] <thefish> kleinlappies: good, what did it say?
[02:56] <teledyn_z> "Begin: Waiting for root filesystem..."
[02:56] <kleinlappies> thefish 1 ip address (1 host up) scanned in 13.347 sec
[02:56] <kleinlappies> thefish 25/tcp open smtp
[02:56] <thefish> ok good
[02:57] <Scusio> is it necessary to deinstall windows before installing ubuntu?
[02:57] <apokryphos> Scusio: no
[02:57] <Scusio> hmm
[02:57] <apokryphos> Scusio: Ubuntu will automatically set your system up for dual-booting
[02:57] <teledyn_z> so only linux 386 image will boot.  2.6.17 generic and 2.6.15 686 both hang
[02:58] <cake__> is there another chan with alil higher tech level?
[02:58] <TinaB> I need som help. what do I do about pmount that wont start?
[02:59] <apokryphos> cake__: edgy issues should still be in +1
[02:59] <DarkMageZ> cake__, you're an edgy user right?
[03:00] <Vuen> emergency, i have a postscript file, i need to print it
[03:00] <Vuen> what can i print it with?
[03:00] <Vuen> evince won't rotate the darn paper to landscape
[03:00] <kleinlappies> thefish im using mirc and i can see you in the other window.
[03:00] <Vuen> kpdf garbles the output completely
[03:00] <thefish> kleinlappies: so type in there please
[03:01] <Vuen> it's just a darn ps file, surely there must be SOMETHING that can resize it and turn the page
[03:01] <cake__> DarkMageZ: yes
[03:01] <Vuen> anyone? print? help?
[03:01] <kleinlappies> thefish i am. do i just type. i can see your messages
[03:01] <cake__> DarkMageZ: struggeling with the xen package which worked, and now all of a sudden doesnt again :s
[03:01] <cake__> apokryphos: thx :)
[03:01] <djblits> hello
[03:01] <cake__> joining there instead
[03:02] <djblits> soemone knows wherei can learn more about konsole in linux!? niet ubuntu but knoppix!
[03:02] <Vuen> this is ridiculous
[03:02] <boink> the console is the same in knoppix as in ubuntu
[03:02] <Vuen> i'm going to have to reboot into windows just so i can print a damn .ps file properly
[03:02] <boink> both are based on debian
[03:03] <dixie> Vuen: what about "gv" ?
[03:03] <thefish> Vuen: try apt-cache search postscript
[03:03] <TinaB> can i reinstall pmount, if so how?
[03:03] <josh__> anyone in here program in C++?
[03:03] <thefish> Vuen: ^^ gv will work as well
[03:03] <josh__> or C#
[03:03] <thefish> Vuen: may be called ghostview
[03:03] <djblits> doews any know  wehre i can go for knoppix qeustions!?
[03:03] <djblits> for the konsole
[03:03] <manradja1> Can anybody help me with my missing partitions? I'm stuck with my install :s
[03:03] <josh__> yeah /join #knoppix
[03:03] <thefish> djblits: what do you want to do?
[03:03] <thefish> or that ^ :)
[03:03] <boink> !ask
[03:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:04] <djblits> thefish more know about konsole
[03:04] <boink> and it's console in English
[03:04] <djblits> console?
[03:04] <vivi_> hi eveybodi
[03:04] <boink> far as I know, yes
[03:04] <thefish> djblits: be a bit more specific
[03:04] <djblits> ow
[03:04] <djblits> oke
[03:04] <thefish> you want to learn about the app "konsole", or you want to learn bash?
[03:05] <djblits> thefish: i want find IPS with konsole, niet me own no, that from programs i run :P
[03:05] <vivi_> I say: HELL EVERYBODI!
[03:05] <kleinlappies> thefish  im lost. i can see your text but it looks like you can't see mine. what must i do am i typing wrong
[03:06] <djblits> thefish: hmmm only want to know how i can find ips that all! lol
[03:06] <djblits> thefish: from others not of me self
[03:06] <thefish> djblits: you want to find ip addresses?
[03:06] <djblits> thefish: yeah! thats what i mean :)
[03:06] <djblits> from someone in me list from AIM or other options to get them
[03:07] <thefish> djblits: what do you want to find about them? nmap will show open ports, traceroute will show the route to them, ping will try for an echo....
[03:07] <thefish> djblits: you want to be a 1337 h4Xx0r?
[03:07] <djblits> thefish: i want to find ips, and open poorts
[03:07] <dixie> :-)
[03:07] <DarkMageZ> ifconfig will show you information about the interfaces you've got configured. including ip's
[03:07] <Vuen> whew
[03:07] <thefish> djblits: type "hack the mainframe" followed by the ip :)
[03:07] <Vuen> kghostview worked, somewhat
[03:08] <djblits> owke
[03:08] <djblits> momment
[03:08] <djblits> :P
[03:08] <djblits> thx before
[03:08] <Vuen> it still offset the printout by half an inch, same as kpdf does *sigh*
[03:08] <Vuen> but luckily that doesn't matter since i just need to show my supervisor a rough draft
[03:08] <thefish> kleinlappies: not forgotten you, just firing up a windows box to see mirc ;)
[03:08] <manmadha> msg nickserv identify srikanth
[03:08] <thefish> djblits: use "nmap ip.add.re.ss" to see open ports
[03:08] <kleinlappies> thefish cool
[03:08] <djblits> thefgish: command not found!
[03:08] <thefish> hehehe
[03:09] <thefish> djblits: nmap
[03:09] <djblits> nmap
[03:09] <thefish> try "man nmap" for more options
[03:09] <djblits> thefish: nmap, and that other dont work
[03:09] <djblits> in console
[03:09] <vivi__> hi
[03:10] <djblits> i cant read this little letters to :S
[03:10] <vivi__> Who are here?
[03:10] <elkbuntu> djblits, try sudo apt-get install nmap
[03:10] <djblits> ahh
[03:10] <djblits> thats me problem, i m new here :S
[03:10] <djblits> and dont know all
[03:10] <djblits> so
[03:10] <elkbuntu> vivi__, this is a support channel, not a social channel. Could you ask your question or go to #ubuntu-offtopic to socialise
[03:11] <thefish> aah ye, djblits i forgot to mention you should install first ;)
[03:11] <djblits> thefish: tell me what i most get for that command u give me hack the mainframe followed be ip
[03:12] <thefish> djblits: i was joking
[03:12] <thefish> djblits: there is no "hack the mainframe" command
[03:12] <djblits> thefish: i me god :P
[03:12] <djblits> i think... so simpel cant me right ^^
[03:12] <elkbuntu> djblits, have you ever used linux before?
[03:12] <djblits> thefish: good joke :P u get me realy
[03:12] <djblits> yeah
[03:13] <djblits> little time ubuntu
[03:13] <RichiH> did the new version of ubuntu release?
[03:13] <djblits> not so long
[03:13] <RichiH> and if not, is there an eta?
[03:13] <djblits> Beta
[03:13] <djblits> google
[03:13] <elkbuntu> djblits, well if you want software, a good place for a new user to start is the Applications menu, then up to 'Add/Remove...'
[03:14] <elkbuntu> RichiH, the new version is due in a few days. the 26th
[03:14] <XiXaQ> does it matter which sudoer installs a program?
[03:14] <elkbuntu> XiXaQ, no
[03:14] <nolimitsoya> no
[03:14] <djblits> o camt read this! how i can do me letters bigger?
[03:14] <djblits> hugger
[03:14] <auTONYmous> I need to fix my ATI config on my laptop. Can anybody help?
[03:14] <nolimitsoya> !ati
[03:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:15] <elkbuntu> dj_baggio, are you using xchat, gaim or irssi?
[03:15] <RichiH> elkbuntu: bad timing :/
[03:15] <elkbuntu> err djblits
[03:15] <auTONYmous> ubotu is funny...
[03:15] <djblits> elkbuntu: got it
[03:15] <RichiH> hmm, /me will think of sth
[03:15] <the> tpc
[03:15] <RichiH> elkbuntu: but thanks
[03:15] <djblits> elkebuntu: do u know how i can find ips of running programms? like AIM or something else
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> djblits, do you mean the ip of you computer
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> thats ifconfig
[03:16] <RichiH> or the ports of the progrmas?
[03:16] <djblits> thats dos ipconfig
[03:16] <RichiH> that's netstat -pnat
[03:16] <djblits> in need to know from other people
[03:16] <nolimitsoya> ifconfig
[03:17] <djblits> and is there an option to get them from others/
[03:17] <RichiH> djblits: that is netstat
[03:17] <djblits> netstat
[03:17] <RichiH> if you have a direct connection
[03:17] <djblits> in console?
[03:17] <djblits> no
[03:17] <nolimitsoya> djblits, that do you mean by "from others"?
[03:17] <djblits> not direct
[03:17] <RichiH> if not, you need support from it in the program itself
[03:17] <nolimitsoya> djblits, yes, in a console
[03:17] <djblits> ok
[03:17] <djblits> yes thx
[03:17] <djblits> i go take an look
[03:18] <djblits> woooow
[03:18] <djblits> that ar other ip adresses that i mean :P
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> ?
[03:18] <oskude> djblits: i hope you know, some isp dont like if you scan their network, so keep an eye on the door... ;)
[03:18] <djblits> if i do netstat, and soemoine talking to me in AIMessngr can isee ther ip
[03:18] <nolimitsoya> djblits, you arent making sense, what do you want do do?
[03:18] <djblits> oskude: what u mean?
[03:18] <kmaynard> hit it with a hammer
[03:19] <djblits> the only problem is
[03:19] <djblits> i only want find ips
[03:19] <djblits> from running programs
[03:19] <djblits> lika AIM
[03:19] <nolimitsoya> do you want the ip of someone you are connected to on a chat?
[03:19] <oskude> djblits: "programs" dont have ips...
[03:19] <kleinlappies> thefish i had to register so i did a /msg nickserv register <your-password> and now i have a kleinlappies tab at the top.
[03:19] <djblits> oskude: haha i know, but they most be connected with somethinh
[03:20] <djblits> nolimitoya: yes thats i mean
[03:20] <RichiH> djblits: like vim? ;)
[03:20] <djblits> ;D
[03:20] <kleinlappies> thefish i had to register so i did a /msg nickserv register <your-password> and now i have a kleinlappies tab at the top.
[03:20] <manmadha> if u know the ip& mac of some other people what we can do with it,....??
[03:20] <nolimitsoya> djblits, then check those persons ip from that program. there should be an option, like /whois in irc
[03:21] <oskude> djblits: i think you should read more about this subject before you star making something dumb...
[03:21] <thefish> anyway, kleinlappies so you did nmap yourserver 25 and it was open ye?
[03:21] <djblits> how i can check that ip from that rogram?
[03:21] <djblits> oskude: yeas i know :S sorry
[03:21] <kleinlappies> thefish yes
[03:21] <thefish> kleinlappies: and your mail client just times out?
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> djblits, that depands on the program
[03:21] <kleinlappies> thefish yes
[03:21] <nolimitsoya> *depends
[03:21] <djblits> nolimitsoya: depands? sorry bad englis im NL
[03:22] <thefish> kleinlappies: have you tried to send an email using telnet?
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> djblits, as i said, /who is <nick> checks various things about people in irc
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> !nl
[03:22] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:22] <ctw> Hi! I upgraded to Edgy and now my dual monitor xinerama setup is broken. I'm using the same xorg.conf file as under dapper. I have an integrated centrino graphics chip with the i810 driver. Does anybody know anything about this / have any suggestions? I'm happy to post my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log ...
[03:22] <dj_baggio> elkbuntu: nope....i'm  using konversation :)
[03:22] <kleinlappies> thefish no don't know how
[03:22] <djblits> yeah thats in IRC
[03:22] <ctw> the display on the 2nd Monitor is all screwed up (e.g. the background doesn't get redrawn when a window is moved there)
[03:22] <djblits> now i AIM
[03:22] <djblits> :P, that me qeustio
[03:22] <nolimitsoya> !nl > djblits
[03:22] <djblits> !nl > djblits
[03:22] <djblits> ??
[03:22] <Init5> hi everyone, I just tried to upgrade my 6.06 LTS to 6.10 (Edgy Eft), and I have installed it, I thought, but when I restart I seem to be running 6.06 dapper.   I did so by writing apt-get distro upgrade.   (writing gksu "update-manager -c -d"    gives me:  (gksu:6469): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:)
[03:23] <djblits> but
[03:23] <djblits> now i want know
[03:23] <elkbuntu> dj_baggio, thats ok. i nick confusion with djblits :-/
[03:23] <exhale> whats a good GBA emulator for ubuntu?
[03:23] <manmadha> nolimitsoya, hi......i use ksniffer to know the ips
[03:23] <manmadha> &mac
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> djblits, please check your message from ubotu
[03:23] <djblits> how i GET ips from that AIM
[03:23] <thefish> kleinlappies: the steps are: telnet server 25; HELO kleinlappies.spitbraaiking.co.za; MAIL FROM: lappies@spitbraaiking.co.za; RCPT TO: whatever@whatever; DATA: type some stuff, then a line with just a . on it; QUIT;
[03:23] <dj_baggio> elkbuntu: okej :) Not the first time in this channel :)
[03:23] <djblits> i dont have ubuntu :P
[03:23] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[03:23] <djblits> knoppixx
[03:23] <thefish> kleinlappies: see if you can sort that out, ill be back in 5
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> please, djblits, you have a message from ubotu, read it, and go to that channel instead
[03:24] <josh__> can someone help me get a wireless card working? 1350 Mini-
[03:24] <josh__> Mini-PCI
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> !nl
[03:24] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:24] <tokyoaway> hi guys... what is the current release date for 6.10?
[03:24] <djblits> where i can see that messager?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> djblits: you need to ask in #knoppix than. but AIM servers dont support that feature
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> djblits, goto #ubuntu-nl
[03:24] <Init5> I give virtual hugs to the one that can help me   :))
[03:24] <oskude> !schedule > tokyoaway
[03:24] <josh__> can anyone help with wireless cards?
[03:24] <djblits> oke thx
[03:24] <nolimitsoya> !wireless
[03:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <djblits> #ubuntu-nl
[03:25] <josh__> !wireless
[03:25] <djblits> how i go to that channel??!
[03:25] <Init5> !upgrading
[03:25] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:25] <djblits> :P
[03:25] <nolimitsoya> djblits, type /join #ubuntu-nl
[03:26] <nolimitsoya> djblits, by the looks of things, you arent that computer savvy, are you sure you know what you are doing, and why, with peoples ip:s?
[03:26] <josh__> ubotu, that doesn't work... I've went through a million threads and pages already
[03:26] <oskude> josh__: ubotu is a bot :)
[03:26] <tokyoaway> thanks
[03:26] <nolimitsoya> josh__, then you are out of luck, and ubotu is just a bot i called as not to have to type all that text ;)
[03:27] <whyameye> josh__: what problem are you specifically having?
[03:27] <josh__> lol
[03:27] <caonex> Hello, I just installed edgy and the new boot up splash is not displaying properly. For what resolution is this best optimized?
[03:27] <josh__> <<< stupid
[03:27] <oskude> !edgy > caonex
[03:27] <christoph> channel
[03:28] <nolimitsoya> caonex, its supposed to check your resolution and adapt to it by it self. its not optimised for any particular resolution
[03:28] <Init5> does someone know why I can't invoke this command: gksu "update-manager -c -d" ??  I get this error:  (gksu:6469): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:28] <nolimitsoya> Init5, alt+f2
[03:28] <nolimitsoya> and exclude the cuotes ;)
[03:28] <nolimitsoya> *quotes
[03:28] <Init5> alt +F2 asks me to open an app, I don't know what to write in it
[03:28] <Init5> I did exclude quotes
[03:28] <Init5> :)
[03:28] <nolimitsoya> Init5, the command you want to type
[03:29] <Init5> ahhh
[03:29] <caonex> nolimitsoya it is not. When I do default resolution the bar displays as | chars and appears on top of the logo
[03:29] <thefish> kleinlappies: have you registered and identified to services?
[03:29] <nolimitsoya> Init5, alt+f2, type
[03:29] <nolimitsoya> update-manager -c -d'
[03:29] <thefish> kleinlappies: /msg nickserv identify kleinlappies {password}
[03:29] <nolimitsoya> -'
[03:29] <caonex> nolimitsoya, I also try 0x317, and it is aligned left, and does not show the progress bar
[03:29] <thefish> kleinlappies: from the main server window
[03:29] <caonex> nolimitsoya I basically can only see when shutting down
[03:29] <nolimitsoya> caonex, anyway, this is #ubuntu+1-stuff
[03:30] <Init5> nolimitsoya: I love you as much as I love ubuntu!!    :P   thanks!!!
[03:30] <Init5> :)
[03:30] <nolimitsoya> np :)
[03:30] <Init5> gn
[03:31] <_MMA_> Hello guys. Im trying mount 2 network drive from a launcher. I cant get it right. Im doing gksudo mount /media/Multimedia && mount /media/Storage in the "command" field. Im missing something.
[03:32] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, yes, that looks strange...
[03:32] <nolimitsoya> what where you trying to do exaclty?
[03:32] <_MMA_> " Im trying mount 2 network drives from a launcher"
[03:33] <nolimitsoya> yes, but what type of "network drive"?
[03:33] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_?
[03:34] <thefish> kleinlappies: you may also have to authenticate with pop before you can send mail - let me know how it goes :)
[03:34] <_MMA_> From another PC. I get this damn HAL bug if I dont put "noauto" in the fstab.
[03:34] <_MMA_> So I have to mount them after boot.
[03:34] <JuJuBee> I used to use KDE and I cannot find the Gnome equivalent of System Settings where I can set my monitor to multiple screens (mirror / span).  Can someone tell me the Gnome equivalent?
[03:34] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, /media/Multimedia is a folder. if you want that accesable from /media/Storage, all you need to do is make a symlink
[03:34] <kleinlappies> thefish i will sorry for the shunting around (at work so it is deurmekaar) will let you know my progress thanks
[03:34] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, the /media/Multimedia should be a device
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> or a pointer to a ftp folder on a network
[03:35] <_MMA_> No. "Multimedia" and "Storage" are the 2 drives.
[03:35] <PapaLion> hey everyone. what is the proper channel for compiz/edgy help?
[03:35] <_MMA_> They are defined in the FSTAB already.
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, no they arnt
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> *arent
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> those are folders whith drives mouted
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> *mounted
[03:35] <Chousuke> directories!
[03:35] <Chousuke> not Folders :(
[03:35] <nolimitsoya> same shit ;)
[03:36] <_MMA_> Yes. I know.
[03:36] <oskude> !edgy > PapaLion
[03:36] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, you need to mount the device, not the _folder_ ;) where the device si mounted
[03:36] <Chousuke> _MMA_: you could put the mount command in some bootup script.
[03:36] <_MMA_> If I sudo mount /media/Multimedia the drive will mount because I have "noauto" in the FSTAB.
[03:37] <Chousuke> _MMA_: or are these removable devices? :/
[03:37] <_MMA_> Its device and path are already there. Its just not mounted.
[03:37] <_MMA_> Like I said abouv its another PC. A networked drive.
[03:37] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, mount devices instead, and it will sort out
[03:37] <Dujo> Hello, Is someone avaiable to help me with a network configuration problem?
[03:38] <_MMA_> Your missing what Im saying.
[03:38] <nolimitsoya> _MMA_, yes, i guess i am
[03:38] <Chousuke> _MMA_: add the mount command to some bootup script then, to make it automatic.
[03:39] <Solarion> ping ubuntu hacker
[03:39] <_MMA_> I was thinking about a boot-up script but I would need help with that also. I have 2 launchers to mount the drives manually after boot now. I was trying to combine the 2.
[03:40] <Mikel0> i've been for three days to trying to hide an input text box as an option is selected without success here's the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28100/ & the jsp/html part http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28102/
[03:40] <Mikel0> oops sorry wrong channel :)
[03:40] <Terminus> anybody know how to find out what NFS version a server is running?
[03:41] <robin>  hello, I am trying to install the k7 kernel using the command line in edgy, I am doing it the same way I always have in other versions but its not showing up in grub, any idea's anyone?
[03:41] <Terminus> or is it safe to say it's V3 if it's enabled in the kernel?
[03:41] <Terminus> robin: i heard that k7 has been deprecated in edgy.
[03:41] <djblits> hello
[03:42] <robin> deprecated?
[03:42] <wickedpuppy> Terminus, i don't know how to find out but normally i do command --version or command -v
[03:42] <nolimitsoya> dropped
[03:42] <djblits> how i can read all ips thats connected with me ip? or like someone talk to me in AIM i type in the console (getconnected ips) i see all ips thats connected
[03:42] <Terminus> wickedpuppy: yeah, that'd work for the command but i'm interested in the protocol version. thanks anyway. =)
[03:43] <earthian> hello
[03:43] <robin> well would the 686 kermnel be better for me than the 386 one with althonxp 2600+?
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> djblits, netstat
[03:43] <nolimitsoya> robin, there is no k7 kernel. generic kernel has taken over all the functionality of the special kernels. also; #ubuntu+1
[03:43] <djblits> ok
[03:43] <matrixtrinity> hard to find  a matrix themed nick on this server
[03:43] <djblits> wickedpuppy: if i do that ii see all codes
[03:43] <djblits> and little of ips :P
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> djblits, codes ?
[03:43] <djblits> and i run teamspeak
[03:43] <robin> ic
[03:43] <Terminus> robin: there's supposed to be a replacement for it but i can't quite remember
[03:43] <nolimitsoya> djblits, please read up untill you at least know what questions to ask.
[03:43] <djblits> yeah i say codes bur that ar other rgings
[03:43] <Terminus> !info linux-image-k7 edgy
[03:44] <ubotu> linux-image-k7: Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[03:44] <djblits> where i can read!?
[03:44] <Terminus> robin: there. you're supposed to use generic.
[03:44] <earthian> can somebody tell me how to mount a ftp directory to my local directory so it would be much easier for me to develop a website (wont need to open remote document, change it then save and close click yes to overwrite and then again oepn and etc etc ...) help!! /o\
[03:44] <nolimitsoya> djblits, 'till you know what to read up on, theres nothing anyone can do for you. you need to know what you want to do and why, to get help
[03:44] <djblits> o okay
[03:45] <djblits> i go think what i go say
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> earthian, why not develop the whole site in ya home box then upload the whole thing once ?
[03:45] <djblits> wait :P
[03:45] <robin> where do i go to set the order of os's in grub
[03:45] <erUSUL> earthian: Places>Connect to Server ??
[03:46] <djblits> i want find someone's IP adress, he say to me i cant get his adress, and i say miss, i go search on linux... so i want let see hem i can get it in linux :D
[03:46] <earthian> it returns me an unknown error 2
[03:46] <earthian> i think i need activeftp or sp
[03:46] <earthian> so
[03:46] <nolimitsoya> djblits, just tell him how to get his ip, thats two thousand times easier
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> djblits, lol so you wanna prove that you are a hacker ?
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> :P
[03:47] <djblits> yeah, thats not what i mean, i mean I get His ip, and he knows hims ip adress
[03:47] <djblits> no :P hats not hack ^^
[03:47] <djblits> i f i want hack i need to learn long long
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> djblits, first what program are you using ?
[03:48] <nolimitsoya> djblits, you are still not making sense. if you want someones ip, ask them. if they dont give it to you, let that be their choice
[03:48] <djblits> AIM and Teamspeak :P
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> djblits, netstat -tpln | grep AIM
[03:48] <matrixtrinity> Looking up 84-105-63-216.cable.quicknet.nl (djblits)...
[03:48] <matrixtrinity> [DNS]  Canonical: 84-105-63-216.cable.quicknet.nl Numerical: 84.105.63.216
[03:48] <djblits> :O
[03:49] <matrixtrinity> if you can make a direct connection w/ him via AIM
[03:49] <wickedpuppy> djblits, if it doesn't work then try it with sudo again ... let we see what you get
[03:49] <matrixtrinity> you could do a netstat -a inet
[03:49] <matrixtrinity> and match the IP with the port
[03:49] <matrixtrinity> brb
[03:50] <djblits> wickedpuppy: yeah, but stay you need to be root
[03:50] <robin> when is the final release of edgy due?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> djblits, pls read my lines above :P
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> I have a built-in speaker on a desktop computer that plays system bell sounds, and played the little background music of the Win XP Home OEM-supplied end-user config stuff (which I declined).  How can I make all sounds (music, etc.) play through this speaker, rather than only through the headphone jack?
[03:50] <djblits> ok sudo how thaht works!?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> robin, very very soon .. depends on your place , its 3 to 4 days
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> !sudo > djblits
[03:50] <djblits> huh
[03:50] <djblits> how i can sudo :P?
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> djblits, you got to learn sudo first
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> !sudo
[03:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:51] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, unplug your headphones
[03:51] <earthian> does anybody know why could my lufs mountpoint of a remote ftp direcotry show errors my changing directory to the local mounted directory?
[03:51] <djblits> ok where ican lear nthat
[03:51] <wickedpuppy> pls read that link first
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> nolimitsoya: They aren't plugged in.
[03:51] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, or plug those speakers to the headphone jack
[03:51] <earthian> smth like that:
[03:51] <earthian> root@fostral:/home/earthian# ls /remoteftp/
[03:51] <earthian> ls: reading directory /remoteftp/: Operation not permitted
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> nolimitsoya: They're internal speakers.  that would involve soldering inside the machine.  There must be a better way than that.
[03:52] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, ah, that speaker. that cant be done, to my knowledge :)
[03:52] <nolimitsoya> and you dont want to, either
[03:52] <nolimitsoya> just get som speakers
[03:52] <tsoler> hi to all again
[03:53] <Qaldune> hi
[03:53] <Qaldune> how can i change the keyboard layout from english to spanish under gnome_
[03:54] <Qaldune> ??
[03:54] <tsoler> nolie: im trynig to remote connect to a computer
[03:54] <nolimitsoya> Qaldune, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <tsoler> and i get an error message
[03:54] <Qaldune> k
[03:54] <Qaldune> im gonna try
[03:54] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, through vnc?
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> nolimitsoya: Well it must be possible to make it do something other than beep, b/c Windows can use it :S
[03:54] <tsoler> rdp
[03:55] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, that speaker is just connected to a tonegenerator on the motherboard, for system beeps. you mean windows plays music on that one?
[03:55] <KalEl> sorry about that
[03:55] <KalEl> anyways....... where was i?
[03:55] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, man rdp?
[03:56] <tsoler> i dont know the differences between the protocols
[03:56] <KalEl> oh right......i was talking about the fact that I am among men
[03:56] <tsoler> i connected twice yesterday
[03:56] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then what error are you getting?
[03:56] <tsoler> no route to host
[03:57] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then thats you problem then. :) your network is bust
[03:57] <tsoler> is it something that i have installed in the mean time or not??
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> nolimitsoya: Yes, or at least it played the background music for the OEM-to-end-user setup.  I declined the EULA, so I don't know any further than that.
[03:58] <KalEl> well i think you need to accept the EULA
[03:58] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, yes, well, you cant play your mp3s through there, if thats what you mean :)
[03:58] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, its not in any way connected to your soundcard; just a simple tone generator
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> nolimitsoya: Then how was it playing that stuff?
[03:59] <nolimitsoya> (providing we are talking about the same thing)
[03:59] <earthian> !lufs
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lufs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <nolimitsoya> tonyyarusso, the software just tells it what tones to create, and it does. its like the ringtones of a cellular phone
[04:00] <nolimitsoya> (old cellular phone, that is)
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> nolimitsoya: Sounded more complex than that, but maybe not.
[04:01] <kleinlappies> thefish im here
[04:01] <kleinlappies> thefish my connection dropped
[04:02] <thefish> kleinlappies: you were booted for flooding ;)
[04:02] <kleinlappies> thefish oh
[04:02] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | kleinlappies
[04:02] <ubotu> kleinlappies: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:03] <NET||abuse> hey ho everyone.
[04:03] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me configure my dual monitor situation?
[04:03] <NET||abuse> got a dual head graphics card, nvidia 7800GT
[04:04] <tsoler> noli: do u mean the computer im trying to connect is down??
[04:04] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, it tells you it cant find a route to it, so either its down, or something is blocking it
[04:05] <CarinArr> !wireless
[04:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:05] <tsoler> it might be possible one of the instalation ive made its preventing it
[04:05] <tsoler> ??
[04:06] <tsoler> or there is not such a possibility??
[04:06] <djblits> can someone help me how i can sudo this line? netstat -tpln | grep AIM
[04:07] <nolimitsoya> djblits, just type sudo in front
[04:07] <djblits> in fron?
[04:07] <nolimitsoya> but dont use sudo if you dont know what you are doing
[04:07] <kleinlappies> thefish give me a sec
[04:07] <djblits> front?
[04:07] <Stealth_> "sudo netstat -tpln | grep AIM"
[04:07] <nolimitsoya> and if you need to ask such a question, you dont ;)
[04:07] <djblits> that is dont work
[04:07] <djblits> its not workd sudo netstat -tpln | grep AIM !
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> djblits, are you using ubuntu?
[04:08] <djblits> i try but get no answer
[04:08] <djblits> no
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> then dont ask here
[04:08] <djblits> knoppix...
[04:08] <djblits> where then
[04:08] <Stealth_> >_>
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> go ask in the knoppix channel
[04:08] <djblits> this is the only unix i think
[04:08] <djblits> wherei s the knoppix channel :'(
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> for the last time, you have gotten all sorts of help in this channel, and not taken any advice
[04:08] <Stealth_> #knoppix
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> just leave it and read up for your self
[04:09] <jazzrocker> my computer just crashed and now i can't start mlnet
[04:09] <jazzrocker> it says "DNS resolution does not work! Looking up www.mldonkey.net failed with Not_found."
[04:09] <BlackEyes>  irc.pla.net.py
[04:10] <truz_`24> why would you be searching for AIM listening on your system?
[04:10] <truz_`24> good work on that one
[04:11] <shredder> A strange thing, they changed motherboard in an hp we have, after that it says during boot it finds eth0 and eth1, but ifconfig says it's eth2 and eth3, and using them as eth2,3 does not work.
[04:11] <shredder> I used nameif to rename to eth0, and then it works, but that goes away during boot, so it not really ideal...
[04:12] <mixandgo> is edgy out ?
[04:12] <shredder> any ideas how to make the change permanent?
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> mixandgo, day after tomorrow
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> shredder, the ugly fix would be a startup script...
[04:12] <kleinlappies> thefish i think im back
[04:12] <mixandgo> nolimitsoya, where will it be anounced ?
[04:12] <robin>  is there a program that will configure tv out? I have mine working but just wondering if there is an easior way for next time?
[04:12] <nolimitsoya> mixandgo, ubuntu.com, probably
[04:13] <mixandgo> nolimitsoya, front page ?
[04:13] <nolimitsoya> yes
[04:13] <sidny4> how do you delete a directory when there are still files in it, isn't it rmdir -something?
[04:13] <shredder> nolimitsoya: you mean an init script?
[04:13] <shredder> No idea why it renames the eths?
[04:13] <schnauzer> Anybody know where Dapper stores sun-java5-jdk on installation?
[04:13] <elia> hello
[04:13] <Kazuhiro> what kernel is in edgy?
[04:14] <elia> somebody knows hot to make wepages with live channel?
[04:14] <nolimitsoya> shredder, couse eth0 and eth1 are alreade taken, by hardware thats not plugged in anymore, since thay where on your last motherboard, and the new one isnt identical
[04:14] <kleinlappies> thefish do we go on or are you busy?
[04:15] <mixandgo> nolimitsoya, so upgrade is not safe yet ?
[04:15] <nolimitsoya> mixandgo, its not entierly trouble free, and will never be, but its a rc and therefore aspires to be the final version. its as good as itll get
[04:15] <Kazuhiro> mixandgo, what upgrade is ever "safe"? If it will be out in 2 days it "should" be "okay".
[04:16] <nolimitsoya> there will be a list of upgrade caveeats after release
[04:16] <Stealth_> Kazuhiro: 2.6.17
[04:16] <Kazuhiro> Stealth_, thanks.
[04:18] <sidny4> !java
[04:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:19] <Navid> Hi , im new to linux and i have few servers , i decided to change the os to linux and Ubuntu ... but im under a DDOS attack now  my site wont load after 10-20mins till i restart the apche and i really dont want to do that becuase it will stop people from downloading a file :( please help me to block this attacks ..
[04:19] <tsoler> nolie: could it be that my  remote computer is down???
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes
[04:19] <tsoler> so may be thats it
[04:19] <nolimitsoya> Navid, may i ask, why ubuntu and not debian?
[04:19] <Kazuhiro> Navid, use netstant to see if it is just one user causing, check this with your apache logs
 as i said i didnt know anything about linux they said ubuntu is better
[04:20] <tsoler> maybe its better to  check this tommorow before insatlling unistalling things on ubuntu
 can you please tell me how :( sorry
[04:20] <joona> Navid: its pretty hard. the point is: INTERNET [04:20] <rellis> Navid: Ubuntu's easier, so that's handy :)
[04:21] <joona> Navid: and the ddos chokes the link between you and your isp
[04:21] <nolimitsoya> Navid, for a server setup and for maximum security, id go for debian with a netinstall, and install a minimum amount of packages. with the ddos attack, they are had to ward of...
[04:21] <nolimitsoya> you could autoban users making more than x conncetions...
[04:21] <kaur> using edgy and computer does not resume from suspend. Black screen and a cursor. The screen seems to switch between some kind of modes. Ideas?
[04:21] <nolimitsoya> *hard to ward of
 you right .... <nolimitsoya> can i make a max connection with iptables ?
[04:22] <Navid> per ip
[04:22] <rellis> Navid: The point is your still being flooded.
[04:22] <nolimitsoya> Navid, i have no idea :) perhaps someone else does, or you could look through debian documentation
[04:22] <rellis> Navid: You need to talk to your ISP.
[04:23] <Navid> rellies , do you mean where i bought the servers of ?
[04:23] <PyR3X> What's the best program for dvd playback, video playback with all codecs including w32codecs?
[04:23] <Navid> nolimitsoya dont worry thanks mate
[04:23] <nolimitsoya> rellis, if ip:s are blocked when trying to make to many connections, that would take care of the flood, wouldnt it?
[04:23] <PyR3X> also best plugin in firefox for streaming video
[04:23] <Mastastealth> PyR3X: best is a matter of opinion, but its known that VLC and Mplayer play practically anything
[04:24] <boink> PyR3X: mplayer for software
[04:24] <Mastastealth> and there is an mplayer plugin for FF
[04:24] <rellis> nolimitsoya: ?
[04:24] <boink> but for firefox plugin, kaffeine
[04:24] <rellis> nolimitsoya: Depends on the severity.
[04:24] <boink> I find kaffeine works much better than the sorry mplayer plugin
[04:24] <rellis> nolimitsoya: You can still flood the server and peg the CPU by forcing it to drop a bunch of packets.
[04:24] <PyR3X> boink: What is kaffine?
[04:24] <nolimitsoya> rellis, thats true...
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !kaffine
[04:24] <boink> kaffeine is something from the kde project
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <rellis> nolimitsoya: I'd be willing to bet he's not even under a DDOS =p
[04:24] <rellis> heh
[04:24] <Navid> 190 ICP packets per second ..
[04:25] <boink> works quite well, but it's a bit bloaty .. like kde :)
[04:25] <rellis> just my guess..
[04:25] <PyR3X> Does VLC play wmv files and stuff well in firefox?
[04:25] <Navid> ICMP*
[04:25] <boink> PyR3X: you just want a plugin?
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know where i can find a photoshop channel
[04:26] <Toma-> anyone know of any 3d file managers that work? tdfsb doesnt work :<
[04:26] <boink> kaffeine-mozilla - mozilla plugin that lanches kaffeine for supported media types
[04:26] <PyR3X> boink: I want a program to play all formats of video and also play the ones that are supported to be played in firefox
[04:26] <Navid> rellis my friend gave me a command (iptables) so it shows all the ip's and how many connection they have ... and he gave me another command to block the ip .. i was searching for this for days now but i cant find any ....
[04:26] <boink> PyR3X: then try kaffeine
[04:26] <boink> but kaffeine won't do realplayer stuff
[04:27] <thor> PyR3X: take a look at VLC
[04:27] <boink> but there are realplay plugins :)
[04:27] <PyR3X> kaffeine play dvds?
[04:27] <boink> think so
[04:27] <boink> vlc does that quite well, as does mplayer
[04:27] <boink> I use mplayer for dvd's
[04:28] <boink> mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC <= looks good too
[04:28] <thor> I got the VLC plugin working in Dapper with no problems
[04:28] <thor> but I do prefer Realplayer for Real stuff
[04:28] <rellis> Navid: You could use webmin, it has a web based iptables configuration utility.
[04:29] <mumrah> i'm having a problem booting my live cd. computer is a dual xeon, distro is 6.10 rc
[04:29] <rellis> Navid: It makes it very easy to configure rules to block/drop packets, etc..
 kk thanks mate ;)
[04:29] <Navid> oh
[04:29] <Navid> cool
[04:29] <jbinder> !schedule
[04:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:29] <Navid> i have VHCS ..
[04:29] <Navid> so i have to uninstall this ?
[04:29] <rellis> VHCS?
[04:29] <Navid> its a control panel
[04:29] <Navid> very easy to use ...
[04:29] <rellis> oh
[04:29] <rellis> no
[04:30] <rellis> leave it on there
[04:30] <Mastastealth> mumrah: what happens?
[04:30] <mumrah> masta: it prompts me to boot, i hit enter, two things appear to load, and it just dies
[04:30] <rellis> Navid: When you run the perl setup script for webmin it'll let you select which port to run it on.
[04:30] <mumrah> sometimes i get to "uncompressing linux"
[04:31] <liwi> hi. who made here distro in lfs and can give me a few answers?
[04:31] <Navid> rellis im installing it now , thankss mate i really appersiat your help :P
[04:31] <ukubuntu> Has anyone seen this before?
[04:31] <ukubuntu>  500 sendmail exit 78 with error message
[04:31] <ukubuntu> can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied
[04:31] <ukubuntu> Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser.
[04:31] <Mastastealth> ok, I've had the same issues with an old computer I have. is it using some SCSI type drive?
[04:31] <mumrah> masta: yes
[04:31] <ukubuntu> I get it when I use web based mail submitter
[04:31] <Mastastealth> mumrah: would ya happen to know what type?
[04:32] <Mastastealth> !scsi
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <mumrah> masta: nope, this is a work comp
[04:32] <rellis> Navid: np
[04:32] <Tjoels> i just installed samba from synaptic, but i can't figure how to open it.
[04:32] <rellis> Tjoels: There's nothing to open.
[04:32] <mumrah> masta: sorry, i gotta run, bad timing by me
[04:32] <Mastastealth> ok
[04:32] <rellis> Tjoels: Create smb.conf to your liking... then start it up =p
[04:33] <Mastastealth> find out what SCSI type it is, you can then use a proper boot parameter for it, might help
[04:33] <Tjoels> rellis: err, where should i create that file, and should it contain anything?
[04:33] <withaY> any simple text editors like gedit which allow for converting to/from unix/windows line endings?  does gedit allow for this?
[04:33] <optimusprime> if I upgrade to Edgy do I need to reinstall music CODECS?
[04:33] <rellis> Tjoels: man smb.conf
[04:33] <Tjoels> ok
[04:34] <thor> Tjoels: you might want to install swat also
[04:34] <rellis> Tjoels: In Ubuntu by default I believe it's in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:34] <mathrick> HAY GUYS, whatever happened to mail?
[04:34] <Tjoels> thor, what is swat? like a gui?
[04:34] <Alakazamz0r> optimusprime, yes
[04:34] <mathrick> where by mail, I mean /bin/mail
[04:34] <thor> swat is a web based gui for samba
[04:34] <thor> makes a life a lot easier
[04:34] <rellis> Tjoels: SWAT is a mediocre web front end, webmin does a lot of things it doesnt do so well.
[04:34] <thor> does smb.conf for you
[04:34] <jbroome> so does vi
[04:35] <Toma-> hmmm seems the nice folks at java dev have made ubuntu debs for us for looking glass
[04:35] <djblits> hello
[04:35] <djblits> im back
[04:35] <djblits> and got an new wqeustion :D
[04:35] <djblits> :O
[04:35] <jbroome> !enter
[04:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:35] <djblits> if i do netstat what i can see? only me local adresses or not local adresses to!?
[04:36] <djblits> okay
[04:36] <withaY> Toma:  yeah, i've been noticing more & more outright builds and/or support for ubuntu by various vendors.  maybe it's because of the support offered by it's distributor???
[04:36] <Tjoels> thanks thor!
[04:37] <Toma-> lets hope :)
[04:37] <avalost> netstat -an | less
[04:37] <Tjoels> and rellis!
[04:37] <thor> np
[04:37] <Toma-> withaY: lets hope a binary build from nvidia comes out or soemthing
[04:37] <avalost> anybody using seveas' flashplugin beta?
[04:37] <ukubuntu> my issue seems to be across the ubuntu/kubuntu platform. Konqueror and firefox
[04:37] <defrysk> avalost, yes and works fine
[04:38] <W9ZEB-Lars> what day does 6.10 get released as final?
[04:38] <avalost> defrysk: i keep getting "installation failed"
[04:38] <rellis> !schedule
[04:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:38] <ukubuntu> The mail works in windows, I think it is a file permissions issue
[04:38] <avalost> tried using apt, and tried from source
[04:38] <defrysk> avalost, my bad :(
[04:39] <W9ZEB-Lars> thanks Rellis
[04:39] <W9ZEB-Lars> so the easy way to answer that would have been to say, Thursday.
[04:39] <W9ZEB-Lars> :)
[04:39] <defrysk> avalost, used automatix or something ?
[04:39] <avalost> apt-get
[04:39] <nomin> how long is too long for keeping a computer on?
[04:40] <defrysk> avalost, well, try the binaries from macromedia
[04:40] <Mastastealth> a couple hundred years?
[04:40] <avalost> dunno what automatix is
[04:40] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:40] <W9ZEB-Lars> nomin: I have at least three machines at our datacenter which have over 600days uptime.
[04:40] <defrysk> avalost, just stay away from automatix
[04:40] <defrysk> I just wondered
[04:40] <compudaze> morning all
[04:41] <rapha> Is it possible to enter with Ubuntu, on a German keyboard, Japanese characters (Kanji)? I got a friend here who normally (with her other friends) always installs a small Windows program for that purpose which she carries on a USB stick...
[04:41] <nomin> W9ZEB-Lars, is that without rebooting?  They've been continuously one with not one shutdown?
[04:41] <W9ZEB-Lars> nomin: that's correct.
[04:41] <nomin> *continiously on
[04:41] <avalost> 7,0,68,0 is the ver from macromedia
[04:41] <Vuen> what's up #ubuntu. i was wondering if anyone could help me make a quick script.
[04:41] <rbil> nomin, that is what uptime means ... time since last boot
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Vuen: try in #ubuntu-offtopic if its not support related to ubuntu
[04:42] <Vuen> basically, i want a script to add to my crontab which will tar up a directory, name the tar file based on the current date, and scp that file to an ssh server
[04:42] <Vuen> it's ubuntu related.
[04:42] <Vuen> isn't it?
[04:42] <Navid> rellis : do you mind if i send you a pm ?
[04:42] <rellis> Navid: I guess it's alright.
[04:42] <gnomefreak> not really it would be related to the language of the script
[04:42] <Vuen> bash
[04:42] <Navid> thx :P
[04:42] <Vuen> it's linux related
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Vuen: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <compudaze> Any idea why I can't change to the correct refresh rate in KDE or GNOME? I have the xorg.conf correct I thought. HorizSync is 30-97, and VertRefresh is 50-180 per the monitor specs. I'm trying to set 77hz for 1600x1200 but I can only chose 50hz.
[04:43] <avalost> defrysk: can't find the beta source, any ideas?
[04:43] <Vuen> you can't be serious. i can't get generic linux support for my ubuntu box in #ubuntu?
[04:43] <rellis> Vuen: one sec..
[04:43] <rapha> Vuen: state your concrete question, please.
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Vuen: its not a support problem its something you want to do
[04:44] <cherubiel> Vuen: maybe you should try to do something on your own before asking for help - you need to read up on shell scripting.
[04:44] <rapha> Vuen: btw, people giving support in here do this _voluntarily_. You are _not_ to _expect_ anything from them.
[04:44] <Vuen> i know plenty about scripting and crontab, basically i just want to know the commands
[04:44] <Vuen> holy christ, why is everyone so defensive?!?
[04:44] <thefish> Vuen: you know the tar commands
[04:44] <gnomefreak> Vuen: now if you wanted help setting something in crontab than yes here would be right
[04:44] <variant> Vuen: its quite simple, you need to enable passwordless ssh to start with
[04:44] <thefish> Vuen: date will give you the date
[04:45] <cherubiel> Vuen: check out expect as well,
[04:45] <thefish> for scp, you may need to use key based authentication, or you will have to put the password in your script
[04:45] <cherubiel> expect scripting
[04:45] <Vuen> i don't mind putting the password in the script
[04:45] <Siph0n> is there any torrents to download ubuntu? instead of from an ftp or sometin
[04:45] <Vuen> because i can make the file owned by root and unreadable
[04:45] <jrib> Siph0n: torrent files are on the download page
[04:45] <Tjoels> rellis: i can't open connect to swat. in "man swat" it tells me to connect to http://localhost:901/ from a browser, but it doesnt work.
[04:45] <W9ZEB-Lars> since I don't have easy access to a Dapper machine anymore which kernel version does it run?
[04:45] <rellis> Vuen: What do you not know how to do?
[04:45] <rapha> Vuen: because you appear (I could be wrong) to be showing a demanding attitude. I make the same mistake from time to time...
[04:45] <Vuen> okay, here, forget scripting altogether. lemme just ask the questions separately:
[04:46] <variant> Vuen: use key based auth, its very secure and simple
[04:46] <Vuen> what command would i use to tar up a directory?
[04:46] <Aquarion> W9ZEB-Lars: 2.6.15-27
[04:46] <Siph0n> jrib: thanx ! :)
[04:46] <cherubiel> !tar
[04:46] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:46] <W9ZEB-Lars> Aquarion: thanks :)
[04:46] <Vuen> ...
[04:46] <rapha> Vuen: tar cvzf file.blah dir
[04:46] <cherubiel> Vuen: ^^
[04:46] <Tjoels> rellis: what can be the issue? Do i have to enable SWAT somehow?
[04:46] <segfault_> Vuen, maybe u should read up on scripting as that is a simple task
[04:46] <Vuen> thanks rapha
[04:46] <Vuen> new question
[04:46] <rapha> np
[04:46] <Vuen> how would i rename a file to the current date?
[04:46] <avalost> nevermiind, dissected the setup.sh and found the file
[04:46] <rapha> huh?
[04:46] <W9ZEB-Lars> Aquarion: did Edgy upgrade the kernel version?
[04:46] <rapha> Vuen: you want the file name to be the current date?
[04:46] <rellis> Tjoels: I always use webmin to configure samba.
[04:46] <defrysk> avalost, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:46] <Tjoels> ah
[04:46] <Mastastealth> Edgy is at 2.6.17-10-generic afaik...
[04:46] <Vuen> yes. the current date .tar
[04:47] <Tjoels> ok, that's like SWAT?
[04:47] <rellis> Vuen: man date
[04:47] <Vuen> yes i know how to get the date
[04:47] <rapha> Vuen: mv current.name `date +F%blahblahblah` I believe
[04:47] <Vuen> but how do i give it to mv to rename a file?
[04:47] <Vuen> ooh
[04:47] <rellis> Vuen: tar cvf $(date +params).tar /file/to/tar
[04:47] <W9ZEB-Lars> Mastastealth: I guess I missed something with my Edgy upgrade,  *Checks the /boot/grub/menu.lst*
[04:47] <Vuen> neat
[04:47] <Vuen> thanks guys
[04:47] <rapha> Vuen: I always get confused about how to specify the format for the `date` command. `man date` should have an explanation for it.
[04:47] <gnomefreak> tar cvzf whatevernameyouwish.tar.gz filestoaddtotar
[04:47] <liwi> znajomy spytal sie mnie kiedy jako stable linuxa (obok mojego LiWiXa by LFS) zaczna uzywac czegos innego niz ubuntu. odparlem, ze wtedy kiedy cos przebije ubuntu w popularnosci
[04:47] <Vuen> new question
[04:47] <Aquarion> W9ZEB-Lars: Not sure, not running Edgy anywhere yet
[04:48] <rapha> Vuen: alternatively mv old.name $(date +F%blahblah).tar
[04:48] <Vuen> how do i scp a file in one line without any prompts?
[04:48] <Aquarion> I'm one of these mythical "Stable release" users.
[04:48] <Mastastealth> X-)
[04:48] <rellis> Vuen: using key based authentication.
[04:48] <Vuen> kay
[04:48] <rapha> Vuen: scp file.name peter@somewhere.tld BUT only if keyless auth is set up
[04:48] <Vuen> i'll look that up
[04:48] <Vuen> thanks guys
[04:48] <St_MPA3b> when edge will be out?
[04:48] <bart416> :|
[04:48] <St_MPA3b> 26th oct?
[04:48] <compudaze> ssh-keygen
[04:48] <bart416> Oh so funny, sound card still doesn't work
[04:48] <gnomefreak> St_MPA3b: 26th-27th
[04:49] <St_MPA3b> ty
[04:49] <W9ZEB-Lars> St_MPA3b: two days.
[04:49] <rapha> Vuen: which means, you will have to enter, on your host, the contents of your local ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[04:49] <bart416> crimsun, ?
[04:49] <jcooke> anyone know what the Qt package is called offhand
[04:49] <rellis> rapha makes a good point to check sshd_config to see if keyless auth is enabled..
[04:49] <sidny4> gnomefreak, is that the official stable release?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> sidny4: yes
[04:49] <sidny4> ok
[04:49] <rapha> Vuen: where, like compudaze stated, the id_rsa.pub file is created by issuing `ssh-keygen -t rsa`
[04:49] <gnomefreak> jcooke: pick one
[04:50] <gnomefreak> jcooke: you mean libqt3-mt?
[04:50] <compudaze> ssh-keygen to generate the key, then ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@other.computer to copy the key
[04:50] <jcooke> gnomefreak, probably, just want to make sure I get the most recent one
[04:50] <jcooke> gnomefreak, thanks
[04:50] <gnomefreak> jcooke: depends on what you are trying to do
[04:50] <compudaze> remember, if you passwd protect the key you'll have to enter the passwd to use it
[04:50] <Vuen> mmm
[04:50] <gnomefreak> jcooke: everything kde related uses the base lib
[04:50] <Vuen> that's coo
[04:50] <Vuen> l
[04:51] <crimsun> bart416: ?
[04:51] <bart416> uhm I installed that alsa version you pointed me to
[04:51] <bart416> Still doesn't work :S
[04:51] <jcooke> gnomefreak, installing some software for a work machine, I think that's what I need, may need the dev packages also tho
[04:51] <compudaze> so any idea why i can't change refresh rates?
[04:51] <crimsun> bart416: I don't know your issue.
[04:51] <feryana> Hi guz
[04:51] <gnomefreak> jcooke: installing any kde app will install that lib
[04:51] <feryana> I need to know
[04:52] <bart416> compudaze, are the graphics card drivers installed
[04:52] <compudaze> yes
[04:52] <bart416> crimsun, the realtek onboard that didn't work :|
[04:52] <jcooke> gnomefreak, I don't have kde installed on here ;o
[04:52] <cherubiel> jcooke: libqt4-dev ?
[04:52] <compudaze> nvidia-settings confirms
[04:52] <feryana> where can I get for ubuntu, software for being able to write on pdf files (like acrobat writer)
[04:52] <compudaze> and i get the white nvidia logo screen b4 entering X
[04:52] <crimsun> bart416: do you have any idea how many HDA codecs I deal with daily that "don't work"? I need more detail.
[04:52] <compudaze> i set the h/v rates manually in xorg.conf as well
[04:53] <rbil> feryana: check this out ... http://customdesign.homelinux.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=39
[04:53] <feryana> thanks!
[04:54] <rapha> JAPANESE input in Ubuntu -- POSSIBLE?
[04:55] <feryana> rbil: with that, Will I be able to adit a pdf file?
[04:55] <Toma-> rapha: yep
[04:55] <luis_lopez> hi, is there a way to find out which packages have been recently removed from a system (via apt or synaptic)?
[04:55] <bart416> crimsun, http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1939&ProductName=GA-K8N51GMF-9
[04:55] <rapha> Toma-: thx! Is there any tutorial or something for it? I tried Google but couldn't quite find something :(
[04:55] <Toma-> !iiimf
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iiimf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Toma-> hmm!
[04:55] <rapha> :
[04:55] <Toma-> rapha: google 'ubuntu iiimf'
[04:55] <rapha> :)
[04:56] <Toma-> should be something on it
[04:56] <rapha> aye, thx Toma-
[04:56] <Toma-> np
[04:56] <crimsun> bart416: ...and?
[04:56] <bart416> Thats the mobo :|
[04:56] <bart416> Its an onboard eh :|
[04:57] <rbil> feryana, no just print to a pdf file
[04:57] <bart416> I'm still searching for the exact name
[04:57] <feryana> rbil I didn't mean that, I mean, I have a pdf file and I need to write on it. Do you know what software do I need?
[04:57] <foomonkey> when I run Synaptic or apt-get to install updates, I get an error about a .deb file. It says it is missing final newline. How do I get past it?
[04:57] <bart416> ah found it crimsun: Realtek ALC880 Audio Codec
[04:57] <rbil> feryana, sorry I misunderstood your needs. No, I dont know of an app that does that.
[04:57] <feryana> ok. thanks anyways :))
[04:58] <Thunderpants> hi, how do i reinstall grub after reloading wondows, please
[04:58] <Navid> rellis you still here mate ?
[04:58] <jrib> feryana: you can opena  pdf in gimp and then write on it
[04:58] <feryana> I think that wine should do some job then :P
[04:58] <feryana> mmmm
[04:58] <feryana> not a bad idea!
[04:58] <Thunderpants> !grub > Thunderpants
[04:58] <feryana> I'll try :D
[04:58] <tx> hi all, what package i need to install to have giftopnm ?
[04:58] <bart416> http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=28&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=42
[04:58] <cherubiel_> foomonkey: paste the errors in a pastebin
[04:59] <foomonkey> k
[04:59] <tx> i am trying to use gocr with jpeg
[04:59] <jrib> tx: netpbm
[04:59] <tx> jrib: cool , thanks
[04:59] <jrib> tx: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for files inside packages too
[04:59] <cherubiel_> !packages
[04:59] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:59] <foomonkey> uh... I've heard of pastebin but don't know how to do that. how do you pase to a pastebin?
[04:59] <cherubiel_> tx: ^^
[04:59] <cherubiel_> !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:00] <tx> jrib: so, i just add packages.ubuntu.com to sources.list ?
[05:00] <jrib> tx: no, it has a web interface
[05:00] <avalost> defrysk: got it working thanks!
[05:00] <bart416> crimsun, is that card supported by alsa?
[05:00] <tx> jrib: oh, :)
[05:00] <foomonkey> thanks. sorry for such a noob question.... I have pasted it
[05:00] <tx> jrib: thanks
[05:00] <crimsun> bart416: the codec is, yes.
[05:00] <jrib> tx: np
[05:00] <Navid> !kubuntu
[05:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <cherubiel_> foomonkey: how about a link?
[05:01] <bart416> Mhhh, why doesn't it work in that case ?
[05:01] <foomonkey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28109/
[05:01] <Navid> !KDE
[05:01] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:01] <crimsun> bart416: that's such an open-ended question; there are infinite reasons why it might "not work"
[05:01] <crimsun> bart416: again, your report has been lacking details...
[05:01] <steve_Da_pirate> greets all
[05:01] <bart416> crimsun, I have no clue what details to give :|
[05:02] <crimsun> bart416: start with a pastebin of ``lspci -vn''
[05:02] <kaur> my laptop (running edgy) fails to resume from suspend. I get a blank screen with a cursor. Sometimes the screen blinks like it would be switching between somekind of modes. Please help
[05:03] <kaur> it is switching*
[05:03] <Mastastealth> kaur, you using nvidia drivers?
[05:03] <bart416> crimsun, I assume I should execute that command as root ?
[05:03] <apecat> hmm, does anybody know where i can find high res versions of the ubuntu logo's and texts?
[05:03] <zaikxtox> hello. i have done apt-get install apache2 valgrind
[05:03] <crimsun> bart416: if you wish; it doesn't matter.
[05:03] <bart416> It says this a few times:         Capabilities: <available only to root>
[05:03] <zaikxtox> both installed ok, apache2 works fine, with php and all that, and valgrind works fine, but when i try valgrind on apache, it breaks
[05:03] <zaikxtox> ideas?
[05:03] <kaur> Mastastealth: no
[05:04] <bart416> http://pastebin.ca/219146
[05:04] <Narendra> How do I associate a file type with text editor so these files always use the text editor to open say files like *.out need to be opened with Text editor?
[05:05] <wenko> in the registry :P
[05:05] <Mastastealth> Narendra: find an out file in nautlius, right click it and go to its properties, there should be a tab on the program you want to open it with, set one as default
[05:05] <crimsun> bart416: yes, it's fully supported.
[05:05] <kaur> my laptop (running edgy) fails to resume from suspend. I get a blank screen with a cursor. Sometimes the screen blinks (switching between somekind of modes mb?). Please help
[05:05] <crimsun> $ grep -nH 1458 sound/pci/hda/*
[05:05] <crimsun> sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:2192:     { .pci_subvendor = 0x1458, .pci_subdevice = 0xa102, .config = ALC880_6ST }, /* Gigabyte K8N51 */
[05:05] <Mastastealth> !suspend
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <Mastastealth> >_>
[05:05] <sonics> hello !
[05:06] <bart416> strange
[05:06] <snoops> how can I change the permissions for all files and folders and files within those folders and so on in a directory?
[05:06] <variant> snoops: chmod -R
[05:06] <snoops> ta
[05:07] <jbroome> chmod -R xxx
[05:07] <AsheD> is it possible to change the default text appended to the filename when a link-to-file is created?
[05:07] <bart416> crimsun, so what is the next possible option?
[05:07] <Narendra> Thanks Mastastealth - that worked!!
[05:07] <crimsun> bart416: pull alsa-driver hg, compile it, install it, reboot, adjust your mixer settings
[05:07] <bart416> huh :S
[05:08] <Narendra> snoops - use chmod -R option to do this
[05:08] <steve_Da_pirate> anyone: how long should, in total a dapper install take?
[05:08] <bart416> crimsun, I reinstalled alsa like 5 times in the last 2 days :S
[05:08] <sonics> Is there a way to easily switch between automatically get ip  and a static ip with gateway?
[05:08] <Vuen> question, when i tar up a folder via tar czf, i get the following line of output:
[05:08] <Vuen> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[05:08] <Vuen> what does that mean?
[05:08] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: took 30 mins here earlier.
[05:08] <JuJuBee> I need major help.  I am trying to get my laptop to mirror to a projector.  I installed the ATI linux driver.  Now the only resolution I get is 640x480.  How do I get back to my old config without reinstalling?
[05:08] <crimsun> bart416: no, you need to try _current_ hg which doesn't exist in a tarball yet.
[05:08] <rbil> bart416, what is the prob you are having. came in at the end of conversation
[05:08] <rapha> Vuen: just what it says. When you unpack the file, it will be relative to your working directory.
[05:08] <steve_Da_pirate> lol
[05:09] <crimsun> bart416: what's your ``amixer'', anyhow?
[05:09] <bart416> Realtek onboard soundcard not working
[05:09] <cherubiel_> JuJuBee: do you have the xorg.conf backup?
[05:09] <rbil> bart416, never worked or stopped working?
[05:09] <feryana> rlib works perfectly! Thanks very much! I never thought that was editable with it because when I had Windows (6 months ago more or less) I couldn't edit well a .pdf with photoshop
[05:09] <steve_Da_pirate> Terminus: im running it on a virtual pc ;) and its taking 21 minuts so far with 5% to go.....
[05:09] <bart416> Never worked
[05:09] <darnell_> what repositories hold openoffice2?
[05:09] <JuJuBee> Not certain
[05:09] <darnell_> !openoffice2
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openoffice2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <feryana> rbil works perfectly! Thanks very much! I never thought that was editable with it because when I had Windows (6 months ago more or less) I couldn't edit well a .pdf with photoshop
[05:09] <cherubiel_> JuJuBee: got a live cd?
[05:09] <JuJuBee> Yes
[05:09] <darnell_> !openoffice
[05:09] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[05:09] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: fast box. =P
[05:09] <bart416> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/219163
[05:10] <bart416> thats what amixer returns
[05:10] <Tjoels> how do you connect to webmin from a remote computer?
[05:10] <cherubiel_> JuJuBee: load the live cd, see if you are getting the desired resolution; if yes, use the xorg.conf from the live cd
[05:10] <steve_Da_pirate> whats Amaraoks download link>?
[05:10] <sonics> whats the command for showing my ip and gateway stuff?
[05:10] <JuJuBee> just copy it to the laptop?
[05:10] <steve_Da_pirate> ifconfig
[05:10] <gottreu> sonics: ifconfig
[05:10] <sonics> thnx
[05:11] <crimsun> bart416: and which version are you running?
[05:11] <bart416> of ?
[05:11] <JuJuBee> cherubiel : thanks, hope this works.
[05:11] <crimsun> bart416: alsa, of course.
[05:11] <slipttees> j #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <cherubiel_> slipttees: /j
[05:11] <slipttees> ok
[05:12] <Terminus> sonics: i know there's a way to set /etc/network/interfaces to automatically switch between dhcp and static depending on where you plug it in...
[05:12] <bart416> If the package i last installed is the one on my desktop its 1.0.13
[05:12] <steve_Da_pirate> ifconfig
[05:12] <slipttees> error! :)
[05:12] <steve_Da_pirate> whats Amaraoks download link>?
[05:12] <steve_Da_pirate> whats Amaraoks download link>?
[05:12] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: sudo aptitude install amarok
[05:12] <crimsun> bart416: so pull alsa-driver hg and compile it.
[05:12] <bart416> where do i find it?
[05:12] <sonics> hm , can anyone tell me if theres an easy way to switch between 2 network settings for my wlan tcp/ip... or do I always have to change it manually when changing locations... since one is automatically ip, and one is a static one..
[05:12] <sonics> Terminus: how do I do that, any idea?
[05:12] <crimsun> bart416: read the instructions on alsa's home page
[05:12] <feryana> rbil I just have other question. The pdf file has more than one page, how do I go to 2nd one? Sorry for this, I'm noob user with thegimp
[05:12] <Terminus> sonics: no idea... i just remember reading about it somewhere in the man page...
[05:12] <cypher1> i have lots of hdb command error in /var/log/messages
[05:13] <steve_Da_pirate> Terminus.. my virtual linux  pc has no internet...
[05:13] <cypher1> i cannot even eject my dvd
[05:13] <rbil> steve_da_pirate, do a /join #amarok     to get to that channel
[05:13] <steve_Da_pirate> i need a url if theres one..
[05:13] <jbroome> http://amarok.kde.org/
[05:13] <segfault_> sonics, u can set that up using wpa supplicant
[05:13] <rbil> feryana, never tried editing a PDF file that way, so you're teaching me something. :-) no idea how to get to a second page. sorry
[05:13] <sonics> Terminus: ok thanx :D
[05:13] <Terminus> sonics: oh... it needs a bit of scripting. =|
[05:14] <feryana> haha ok
[05:14] <Terminus> i just checked.
[05:14] <sonics> segfault_: whats a wpa supplicant
[05:14] <feryana> iif I discover I'll tell ya
[05:14] <sonics> Terminus: damn, Im new to linux, installed it for about a week now.. this doesnt sound good ^^
[05:14] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: check your local archive mirror and grab the package.
[05:14] <inimesekene> so how long 'till edgy now?
[05:14] <jcooke> sonics, http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[05:14] <rbil> suppose you could print individual pages and edit them, but how to assemble back later, no idea
[05:15] <segfault_> sonics, sudo apt-get install  wpasupplicant, then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant
[05:15] <steve_Da_pirate> Terminus: what would that be... i can;t remember the command to view repositories sources...?
[05:15] <Terminus> sonics: well, there's a GUI in System > Administration > Networking if you want to do it manually.
[05:15] <Vuen> question, when editing my crontab, am i allowed to use commas for multiple values
[05:15] <cypher1> steve_Da_pirate, check /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <Qaldune> hi
[05:15] <jcooke> Vuen, yes
[05:16] <segfault_> Vuen, man crontab
[05:16] <jcooke> Vuen, you may also use "-" for ranges
[05:16] <Vuen> for example, if i want something to be executed on tuesday and thursday, can i put 2,4 in the dow column?
[05:16] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: cat /etc/apt/sources.list. take a look at the http://cc.archive.ubuntu.com part. where cc = country code
[05:16] <Qaldune> how could i change screen resolution to 1152x768?
[05:16] <Vuen> ok good
[05:16] <Vuen> thanks
[05:16] <Qaldune> when i put it in xorg.conf i get a weird resolution and bad refresh rates
[05:16] <steve_Da_pirate> Terminus : so that would prob be za (south africa) hey
[05:16] <sonics> segfault_: wow , thanx alot thats exactly what I was searching for :)
[05:16] <arkangelp> Hello everyone
[05:16] <segfault_> sonics, np :)
[05:16] <stack_> I'm attempting to use smbmount.  The command runs successfully, but the permissions are all wrong.  I get "?---------   ? ?      ?        ?                ? /mnt" when I do an ls -l... any ideas?
[05:16] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: yep.
[05:17] <arkangelp> can anybody help me how to install ubuntu in a dual core processor pentium?
[05:17] <oyvinhoi> What package am I missing since gstreamer is not an engine listed in amarok?
[05:17] <segfault_> arkangelp, install for i386 arch, and install 686 kernel
[05:17] <segfault_> oyvinhoi, no mmore gstreamer for amarok
[05:17] <JuJuBee> cherubiel : Thanks heaps, that did the trick.
[05:17] <oyvinhoi> segfault_: but xine doesn't work for me
[05:18] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok/
[05:18] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: take note that there might be additional dependencies.
[05:18] <steve_Da_pirate> dankeshun
[05:18] <JuJuBee> Any suggestions on how to get my laptop to use multiple screens (mirroring)?
[05:18] <arkangelp> how can I do that? everytime I try to install ubuntu get stock on the screen said: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, Booting the Kernel
[05:18] <fsmw> hi everybody
[05:18] <segfault_> oyvinhoi, xine is only engine available for amarok currently, what doesnt work
[05:18] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: why don't you just bridge networking to your VM? it's a lot easier to just apt-get
[05:19] <steve_Da_pirate> dunno how.. explain.. ? im using VMware as my virtual pc...
[05:19] <segfault_> arkangelp, maybe a diff jardware issue, im using core duo here that no issues
[05:19] <arkangelp> a hardware issue?? what could it be the issue?
[05:19] <oyvinhoi> segfault_: It just doesnt play the mp3's. maybe I'm missing a plugin ?
[05:20] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: that is beyond what i know, but i do know it's possible.
[05:20] <segfault_> oyvinhoi, view ubuntu page on restricted formats to get that to work
[05:20] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: i've done it before, just can't remember how.
[05:20] <fsmw> my sources.list on edgy give me some "301" errors since today, is belive there's a new config for the sources for the new realese, where can an appropiate list for my sources?
[05:20] <segfault_> !mp3
[05:20] <cherubiel_> steve_Da_pirate: #vmware
[05:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:20] <steve_Da_pirate> @Terminus.. do you know of a possible chan that could help me?
[05:20] <giany911> i need some help ..i need a cd burner for gnome..
[05:20] <Terminus> steve_Da_pirate: what cherubiel_ said
[05:20] <Aquarion> giany911: There's one built in
[05:20] <fsmw> lol *get a new sources.list
[05:21] <segfault_> giany911, or u can use k3b
[05:21] <Terminus> giany911: if you don't like the builtin one, there's gnomebaker
[05:21] <oyvinhoi> segfault_: the wiki ?
[05:21] <segfault_> !mp3
[05:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:21] <giany911> k3b aint that for kde?
[05:21] <jbroome> it'll run on gnome
[05:21] <segfault_> giany911, yes but it works fine on gnome
[05:21] <giany911> thanx
[05:21] <XiXaQ> I'm creating a profile for all users of a certain type. I have managed to create a file which will be available for all users of that profile. Now, I want to create a symlink so that the user test01 has a /home/test01/web which refers to /var/www/test01. How can I do that? /var/www/$user or something?
[05:21] <feryana> rbil if you can asnwer me a question I know how to open more pages of a pdf files. You response will make us find the solution or keep searching (me)
[05:22] <segfault_> XiXaQ, man ln
[05:22] <arkangelp> I have a error message I believe and it said:  "Uncompressing Linux, OK, booting the kernel" and get stock doesnt do anything
[05:22] <cherubiel> !serpentine
[05:22] <feryana> if you have 5 images for example, can you make a pdf file with those 5 images (but each image one page) rbil
[05:22] <ubotu> serpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB
[05:22] <jbroome> stack_: i had that same issue mounting a win2k3 share on centos4.  i changed to using mount.cifs and that worked
[05:22] <Terminus> XiXaQ: ln -s /var/www/test01 /home/test01/web
[05:22] <harm_> can i add a partition to my current windowsXP laptop
[05:22] <feryana> with open office presentaiton maybe???
[05:23] <harm_> i dont have any space left over :(
[05:23] <XiXaQ> Terminus, the thing is, that the user name will be different for each user. I want it to automatically create a symlink from the current users home to the current users webhome.
[05:23] <oyvinhoi> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:23] <cherubiel> harm_: do you want a resize? gparted
[05:23] <feryana> I'm gonna try
[05:23] <dia_> slt
[05:23] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:23] <Terminus> XiXaQ: you're gonna have to script it, or at the very list, pipe a few commands.
[05:23] <eXistenZ> What are the shortcuts for multiple desktops?
[05:23] <rbil> feryana, I suppose so, if you insert a page break between each image
[05:24] <jbroome> ctrl-alt arrow keys
[05:24] <XiXaQ> Terminus, what is the variable for the current users username then?
[05:24] <feryana> rbil and how I do that?
[05:24] <feryana> Insert menu?
[05:24] <eXistenZ> jbroome, Moving a program to another workspace?
[05:24] <segfault_> XiXaQ, $USER or whoami
[05:24] <harm_> cherubiel well currently i have windowsXP on my laptop. it has the full 40gb written of as 1 partition. Can resize taht to lets say 30 and have 10 for linux? WITHOUT formatting or remove xp?
[05:24] <rbil> feryana, depends on what you're using to make the document that will hold the images I guess?
[05:24] <dia_> i want to know how to get sound in ubuntu
[05:25] <feryana> Is just a pdf form
[05:25] <feryana> to fill
[05:25] <cherubiel> harm_: get the gparted live cd, resize
[05:25] <jbroome> eXistenZ: ahh, i think you need to set that in the kb shortcuts.  i don't think it's set by default
[05:25] <variant> XiXaQ: use /etc/skel/ (this is the skeleton directory where any files put here will be put in new users home directories on creation
[05:25] <rbil> you could probably accomplish that with a word processor that allows for the insertion of page breaks
[05:25] <feryana> 5 pages for example, I open all of them on gimp
[05:25] <cherubiel> harm_: non-destructive, works like a charm
[05:25] <cherubiel> !gparted
[05:25] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:25] <feryana> i edit then and now I have 5 files
[05:25] <feryana> I need to join  them again
[05:25] <Terminus> XiXaQ: $USER, but it's useless if you want different dirs for each user.
[05:26] <XiXaQ> variant, thanks, that's useful. I'm using sabayon.
[05:26] <XiXaQ> variant, shouldn't that do that automatically?
[05:26] <feryana> rbil (for your records) when you open a pdf file with the gimp, a dialog box popups, then if you want multi pages you will se "Pages" and 1 as default, if the document has 5 pages you should write 1-5 (if you type 5 it will open just the 5th page)
[05:26] <cypher1> is there a dvd playing application that can skip bad sectors in dvd ?
[05:26] <variant> XiXaQ: so put a symlink in there to /var/$USER/www or whatever you were wanting to make
[05:26] <harm_> cherubiel can i do it with the ubuntu live CD... i dont feel like burning things to CD's iam a hippy and i dont want to waste mother nature
[05:27] <XiXaQ> Terminus, so I could create a Im$USER.txt which, in my case, would be named Imxixaq.txt?
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Anybody with information about Canonical's presentation in Montreal last week or a link to the video from it, ping me.
[05:27] <harm_> that and i dont have a RW-CD :)
[05:27] <variant> XiXaQ: exactly
[05:27] <XiXaQ> nice!
[05:27] <Terminus> XiXaQ: no guarantees, but ls /home|xargs -IARG ln -s '/var/www/ARG' '/home/ARG/web'
[05:27] <rbil> feryana, thanks. nice tip. I've never tried to work with pdf files that way
[05:27] <variant> XiXaQ: try it, touch $USER
[05:27] <variant> XiXaQ: ls will then show a file called whatever your usernam it
[05:27] <variant> XiXaQ: ls will then show a file called whatever your usernam is
[05:28] <XiXaQ> oh, I have to try this! *brb*
[05:28] <feryana> Well if works well with pres. if I can join the files again then...  keep looking
[05:28] <Terminus> XiXaQ: theoretically, that should run ln -s for all users.
[05:29] <Toma-> how do you change the commands for when a session gets started? eg, the command thats run when say "Gnome" is selected from gdm
[05:29] <rbil> feryana, very cool indeed
[05:30] <rbil> feryana, try something like Open Office Word Processor. Place image on each page then print the doc.
[05:31] <m_0_r_0_n> Which linux tool can I use to extract rar files?
[05:31] <sproingie> !rar
[05:31] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:31] <feryana> I goooooooot it!!!! rbil with oO presentation works fine
[05:31] <m_0_r_0_n> thx
[05:32] <turtle_> .
[05:33] <feryana> new blank file, then Insert > Picture (1st file) if you need to center it, do it. Then left button on slides (left side) add new and repeat action. That will all pages. Then File > Export as pdf (don't change default settings) and wuala!
[05:33] <feryana> I think that should be a program for not wasting time, or maybe not yet. I'm learning coding in Linux. I'll do one :P
[05:33] <dewd_> hi everyone
[05:34] <segfault_> Toma-, edit file in /usr/share/xsessions
[05:34] <jrib> feryana: pdftk will join pdf's on the command line, I don't remember the exact syntax though
[05:34] <Toma-> thanks segfault_
[05:34] <segfault_> np
[05:34] <SystemBomber> Hey guys, having a little problem. When I do a logout or Switch User, i always get a blank screen? Anyone know how to solve this? Thanks, Chaz
[05:34] <baastrup> hello, im in some troubles here, installed winxp and crashed my grub mbr, is there any change i can fix it from this live cd, im running edgy on sda1
[05:34] <Rookie-> !dc++
[05:34] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[05:34] <feryana> ty jrib don't worry, the biggest form on pdf is 10 pages... so can take me 2 mins
[05:34] <IcemanV9> !grub
[05:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:34] <segfault_> baastrup, u have to reinstall grub
[05:35] <dewd_> baastrup: mount the root partition, chroot and reinstall grub
[05:35] <dewd_> or just use grub commandline
[05:35] <feryana> original file 75.6 KB ended file 125.67kb
[05:35] <feryana> not bad...
[05:35] <IcemanV9> baastrup: look at ubotu's message - see "Lost grub after installing windows: .." :)
[05:35] <bart416> OH great, mercurial doesn't want to install :'(
[05:35] <rbil> not bad at all
[05:36] <Dissenter> I need to mount a local NWFS (novell) drive. Will Ubuntu support NWFS right out of the "box"?
[05:36] <baastrup> dewd_: I tyed that chrooted, sudo apt-get reinstall grub, and even tryed grub-install hd0 with out any luck
[05:36] <dewd_> anyone here know something about hald/gnome-volume-manager?
[05:36] <SystemBomber> Anyone know to to solve black screen on logout crash?
[05:36] <dewd_> i've replaced a cd-rom unit with a cd/rw one
[05:36] <dewd_> and now when i insert a blank cd it won
[05:37] <dewd_> 't give the question whether to burn an audio or data cd
[05:37] <St_MPA3b> some1 can play Ragnarok Online from Ubuntu? ^^
[05:37] <St_MPA3b> some1 can play Ragnarok Online from Ubuntu? ^^
[05:37] <IcemanV9> !repeat
[05:37] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:37] <dewd_> instead a cdrom icon appears and disappears on the desktop
[05:37] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: you can't update eh?
[05:37] <dewd_> gnome-volume-manager seems to be configured correctly from gconf
[05:38] <dewd_> these messages appear in /var/log/messages:
[05:38] <dewd_> "cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[05:38] <dewd_> "
[05:38] <dewd_> s/messages/message/
[05:38] <dewd_> how do i make it so it recognises a blank disc as a blank disc?
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:32]  <n3storm> hi
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:32]  <n3storm> I have setup an ubuntu server
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:34]  <n3storm> when a ssh user logs in the system
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:35]  <n3storm> their home directory is not writable
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:35]  <n3storm> Could not chdir to home directory /home/josu: Permission denied
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:35]  <n3storm> I checked quotas
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:36]  <n3storm> but they are ok
[05:39] <dewd_> ls -ld /home
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:36]  <n3storm> I created new users in new groups
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:36]  <n3storm> and nothing
[05:39] <dewd_> ls -ld /home/josu
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:36]  <n3storm> the last thing I have done is have a look at fstab
[05:39] <dewd_> check the permissions
[05:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell n3storm about enter
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:37]  <n3storm> the /home partition is /dev/sdb1       /home           ext3    defaults,usrquota,grpquota        0       2
[05:39] <Toma-> !ops
[05:39] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:39] <dcordes> how can i make my pc accessable via ssh from a remote box?
[05:39] <n3storm> [17:37]  <n3storm> any idea so far?
[05:40] <Amaranth> n3storm: Please don't do that.
[05:40] <n3storm> ok, sorry
[05:40] <jrib> dcordes: install openssh-server
[05:40] <dcordes> jrib: and then? are there any guides?
[05:40] <n3storm> Amaranth: don't paste or don't do ls -ld?
[05:40] <jrib> ubotu: tell dcordes about ssh
[05:40] <dcordes> thxx
[05:40] <gnomefreak> n3storm: dont paste in here
[05:40] <Amaranth> n3storm: don't paste
[05:40] <jrib> dcordes: all you need to do is install it, then you should be able to login unless you have some firewall
[05:40] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | n3storm
[05:40] <ubotu> n3storm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:40] <n3storm> yeah yeah
[05:41] <n3storm> I know
[05:41] <n3storm> sorry again :D
[05:41] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: that's new...
[05:41] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> yep
[05:41] <dcordes> jrib: what about my router?
[05:41] <n3storm> I was at ubuntu server channel
[05:41] <bart416> crimsun, this alsa repository hates me :'(
[05:41] <bart416> bart@Raven:~/alsa-driver-downoad$ hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
[05:41] <bart416> requesting all changes
[05:41] <bart416> abort: error: Name or service not known
[05:41] <dewd_> does anyone know how to fix gnome-volume-manager on ubuntu 6.06.1 lts so it detects a blank cd properly (and asks to burn a cd)
[05:41] <dewd_> ?
[05:41] <n3storm> and then I realised it's a developers channel
[05:41] <gnomefreak> bart416: dont paste in here
[05:41] <jrib> dcordes: then you have to forward port 22 to your computer (I don't know if that makes sense since I don't own a router, but I think I've heard that)
[05:41] <n3storm> so I run away to here ashamed
[05:42] <n3storm> sorry everybody
[05:42] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: em... i just dont know... it'll work ^^?
[05:42] <misieq> is there any way to prevent firefox from storing data used in textboxes on a specific website? either by firefox config or a script on page?
[05:42] <dewd_> ide-scsi is deprecated, right?
[05:42] <dewd_> cant be it
[05:42] <n3storm> dewd_: drwxr-xr-x 2 josu josu 4096 2006-10-24 17:22 /home/josu
[05:42] <Nophiq> hi all
[05:42] <Dissenter> I need to mount a local NWFS (novell) drive. Will a standard Ubuntu install support NWFS drives?
[05:42] <dewd_> n3storm: good
[05:43] <n3storm> I think that part is ok
[05:43] <miguel> hi all
[05:43] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: oh you didn't even try :-D ? first install the latest version of wine. you can find a repository for your ubuntu on www.winehq.com -> go download / ubuntu
[05:43] <dewd_> and /home ?
[05:43] <miguel> plz can anybody tell me how to change resolution to 1152x768??
[05:43] <n3storm> d-w------- 7 root root 4096 2006-10-24 17:22 /home/
[05:43] <dewd_> aha
[05:43] <dewd_> thats the problem right there
[05:43] <IcemanV9> miguel: system > prefs > screen resolution
[05:43] <n3storm> miguel: you now what graphics card have?
[05:44] <miguel> well
[05:44] <n3storm> oooo, dewd_, I see now
[05:44] <dewd_> chmod 755 /home
[05:44] <miguel> i've got a nvidia geforce 4400
[05:44] <dcordes> anybody can tell me from his own experience what i need to do in order to reach my box (which is behind a router) via ssh from a remote box?
[05:44] <miguel> and my monitor supports 1152x768 @ 68-75
[05:44] <Siph0n> do i need drivers if im using a wireless network card for my laptop? or should it automatically work?
[05:44] <dewd_> dcordes: open up it's web or telnet interface and use DNAT
[05:44] <dewd_> sometimes called NAPT
[05:44] <compudaze> what driver are you using miguel?
[05:44] <dewd_> or port forwarding
[05:44] <miguel> and when i configure xorg.conf to get that resolution available
[05:44] <SystemBomber> Anyone know to to solve black screen on logout crash?
[05:44] <compudaze> for video
[05:45] <miguel> i'm using nvidia drivers
[05:45] <n3storm> thankyou very much dewd_
[05:45] <compudaze> which ones
[05:45] <dewd_> n3storm: np
[05:45] <dewd_> yw
[05:45] <compudaze> the 9x beta? or 8x?
[05:45] <dcordes> miguel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- you can select any whished resolution there.
[05:45] <Dissenter> I need to mount a local NWFS (novell) drive. Will a standard Ubuntu install support NWFS drives?
[05:45] <miguel> mmmm
[05:45] <dewd_> use -plow
[05:45] <miguel> i tried to do that later
[05:45] <dewd_> asks more questions
[05:45] <miguel> but it screwed up my config
[05:45] <dcordes> dewd_ erm sure. i didn't understand anything :-( ?
[05:45] <miguel> sorry later->before
[05:46] <dewd_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow <package>
[05:46] <n3storm> dcordes: your routes
[05:46] <dewd_> asks all questions (low priority ones and up)
[05:46] <dewd_> default is high
[05:46] <miguel> dewd_ did u say that to me?
[05:46] <dcordes> miguel: your resolution won't show up? try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf there you can put the res manually. maybe this will help
[05:46] <miguel> should i use -plow?
[05:46] <dewd_> no dcordes
[05:47] <miguel> dcordes: i've tried that
[05:47] <dcordes> guys is there any port i need?
[05:47] <dewd_> with dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server yes
[05:47] <miguel> but i don't get right resolution
[05:47] <n3storm> dcordes: 22
[05:47] <dcordes> and then it will work?
[05:47] <n3storm> hehe
[05:47] <n3storm> we hope so
[05:47] <miguel> neither refresh rate
[05:47] <dcordes> only need the port, no firewall and ssh-server installed?
[05:48] <dewd_> to get monitor refresh rate right, make sure you've got mdetect and read-edid
[05:48] <dewd_> (sudo apt-get install...)
[05:48] <dsewnr_> Why my firefox can't browse this site ? http://forum.isu.edu.tw/irc/
[05:48] <dewd_> and then run dpkg-reconfigure again
[05:48] <jrib> dcordes: you need openssh-server
[05:48] <dewd_> it should be able to perfectly auto-detect
[05:48] <miguel> mmm ok
[05:48] <dcordes> ok and on the remote box? openss-client?
[05:48] <miguel> i'm gonna try that
[05:48] <dewd_> unless running inside like xen
[05:48] <dcordes> *openssh
[05:48] <dsewnr_> Why my firefox can't browse this site ? http://forum.isu.edu.tw/irc/ I've already install JRE.
[05:48] <Dissenter> dsewnr_: that side is all java
[05:49] <jrib> dcordes: right
[05:49] <dewd_> maybe symlink some netscape plugins then
[05:49] <dcordes> ok
[05:49] <Dissenter> dsewnr: do you have the java client installed?
[05:49] <dcordes> thx guys i hope this will work. i never tried ssh before :-)
[05:49] <Sambrista> hi everybody! Does anyone know which package i have to install in order to get "lndir"??
[05:49] <dsewnr_> Dissenter: what do you mean the java client
[05:49] <miguel> dewd_ when i try to install read_edid i get an error
[05:49] <dewd_> no-one with a clue on gnome-volume-manager not handling blank discs?
[05:50] <dewd_> read-edid
[05:50] <dewd_> iirc
[05:50] <IcemanV9> Dissenter: it seems Ubuntu does support Novell (ncpfs) - man fs(5)
[05:50] <dsewnr_> Dissenter: Isn't JRE ?
[05:50] <dcordes> one more question: does it make my computer more unsecure, running openssh-server ?
[05:50] <steve_Da_pirate> DUDES: whats the command to install a .tar.gz ?
[05:50] <steve_Da_pirate> i always forget....
[05:50] <jrib> Sambrista: xutils-dev you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search in the future
[05:50] <steve_Da_pirate> *cowers
[05:50] <jrib> steve_Da_pirate: there is no such command
[05:50] <Dissenter> dsewnr_: firefox doesn't have java built in you have to install from java.com
[05:51] <jrib> steve_Da_pirate: what are you trying to install?
[05:51] <[NB] Mahem> i have a question when i install a lamp server do i need to do anything else then change the root password to get it up and running qouse i have some trouble whit getting the mysql password right nomatter what i do it dont let me connect to mysql
[05:51] <dewd_> theres a package in multiverse for java
[05:51] <n3storm> dsewnr_: better check easyubuntu
[05:51] <steve_Da_pirate> a VMWare driver...
[05:51] <dewd_> better check synaptic
[05:51] <Sambrista> jrib: i used it but when i searched for lndir it said that it couldn't find that
[05:51] <steve_Da_pirate> well i can unzip then uninstall....
[05:51] <dsewnr_> Dissenter n3storm , Thx, Let me try it : )
[05:51] <segfault_> dewd_, goto menu System->Preferences->Removeable Drives and media
[05:51] <steve_Da_pirate> whats the unzip cmd then?
[05:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell steve_Da_pirate about compiling
[05:51] <dewd_> yes, i've been there
[05:51] <dewd_> it's enabled
[05:51] <jrib> steve_Da_pirate: tar xvzf file.tar.gz  will extract the contents
[05:52] <steve_Da_pirate> dankeshun
[05:52] <dewd_> commands are: serpentine for audio cds (installed) and nautilus --no-desktop burn: (works from commandline)
[05:52] <miguel> dewd_ xorg-server doesn't even exist as packet
[05:52] <dewd_> xserver-xorg
[05:52] <dewd_> my fault, sorry
[05:52] <rc-1> is there a python/ruby interface?
[05:52] <miguel> ok
[05:52] <miguel> np
[05:52] <Dissenter> IcemanV9: thanks, I'll look into it
[05:52] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me please? I'm having a problem where I get a black screen on logout.
[05:53] <jrib> rc-1: 'python' will run the python interpreter
[05:53] <dewd_> pls paste the xorg log file in pastebin
[05:53] <dewd_> one from a crash
[05:53] <SystemBomber> erm how can i get one from the crash?
[05:54] <dewd_> go to /var/log, you see Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old
[05:54] <dewd_> try the .old one
[05:54] <SystemBomber> okay cheers
[05:54] <gerhard> hi everyone
[05:54] <n3storm> hi
[05:54] <SystemBomber> one sec
[05:54] <dewd_> helloo
[05:55] <gerhard> i need to split up an ape/cue file
[05:55] <gerhard> how do i do that?
[05:55] <variant> scissors?
[05:55] <gerhard> i know that i need monkeys audio
[05:55] <gerhard> which i loaded
[05:55] <gerhard> but i cant install it
[05:56] <SystemBomber> dewd_, http://pastebin.ca/219243
[05:56] <SystemBomber> :0
[05:56] <SystemBomber> :)*
[05:57] <gerhard> ah i guess i need build-essentila
[05:57] <gerhard> al
[05:57] <gerhard> im kind of stupid
[06:00] <KalEl> i wonder what type of board is in this laptop
[06:00] <SoundSquare> hi there, what's the channel for Ubuntu PPC?
[06:01] <KalEl> this is it
[06:01] <KalEl> u r there
[06:02] <SoundSquare> i thought there was another chan dedicated to PPC
[06:02] <KalEl> not that i am aware of
[06:03] <KalEl> i've just used this channel
[06:03] <SoundSquare> i need a file from dapper PPC version, it seems like my libgl.so comes from the X86 version
[06:03] <KalEl> well that just won't do
[06:03] <KalEl> do you have the dapper ppc build cd?
[06:03] <gerhard> ok now, how do i split a .wav file by using its cue file?
[06:03] <pons_> guys, i have an asus p4s800 with a p4 processor and ubuntu edgy and 2.6.17-10 kernel, and when i reboot the computer using commands (shutdown -r now) or using gnome menu, the system just says "rebooting system" but never does.. if I halt (shutdown -h now) it does halt.. any of you have had this same problem?
[06:04] <KalEl> SoundSquare, do you?
[06:04] <gerhard> no, Pons, I had the problem that it didnt shutdown, or reboot either
[06:04] <SoundSquare> nope
[06:04] <Pons> gerhard, did you fix it someway?
[06:04] <KalEl> ok... i would get that first
[06:05] <gerhard> Pons, i reinstalled ubuntu, and i think it had something to do with the ati fglrx driver
[06:07] <eXistenZ> the bug /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed hasn't been fixed from breezy =/
[06:07] <gerhard> argh how do i use mp3splt?
[06:08] <miguel> hey dewd_
[06:08] <sonics> whats the command to uninstall this "evolution mail" ?
[06:08] <dewd_> hi
[06:08] <miguel> it worked
[06:08] <miguel> thx alot man
[06:08] <dewd_> ok :)
[06:08] <dewd_> yw
[06:08] <gerhard> sonics cant u uninstall it with synaptic?
[06:08] <miguel> well
[06:08] <dewd_> SystemBomber: looking at it...
[06:08] <miguel> does anybody use joe text editor?
[06:08] <StephenL> miguel: i do
[06:08] <miguel> i would like to install it but it seems that it doesn't exist in repository
[06:08] <jbroome> !info joe
[06:09] <ubotu> joe: user friendly full screen text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-0.2 (dapper), package size 217 kB, installed size 696 kB
[06:09] <miguel> mmmm
[06:09] <jbroome> miguel: enable the universe repo
[06:09] <Pons> any of you have had this problem of being unable to reboot?
[06:09] <dewd_> SystemBomber: maybe if you remove the wacom devices from xorg.conf ?
[06:09] <miguel> ok
[06:09] <sonics> gerhard: cant find it there ;(
[06:10] <miguel> ok thx jbroome
[06:11] <jbroome> np
[06:11] <gerhard> sonics, too bad, i dont know it then
[06:11] <Lubix> if i want my laptop not make me enter a password when i close it and reopen it where can i access that setting?
[06:12] <MasseR> Lubix: Not sure but try gnome-power-preferences ?
[06:12] <MasseR> (Somewhere in system)
[06:12] <sonics> gerhard: when I try removing it via synaptix.. he wants to remove stuff like ubuntu-desktop and such.. thats no good is it?
[06:12] <jwl007> so firefox 2.0 and ubuntu edgy releases in the same week.. rock on
[06:12] <gerhard> i dont know
[06:13] <gerhard> sonics, try it, i guess it wont kill your system
[06:13] <boink> tomorrow is edgy day, no?
[06:13] <MasseR> No
[06:13] <MasseR> 26.
[06:13] <papaloulou> no
[06:13] <jbroome> once greasemonkey released a version that worked with FF2, i was using it daily
[06:14] <MasseR> gerhard: AFAIK ubuntu-desktop isn't a software, it's more like a dummy package to download all the required softwares for ubuntu
[06:14] <MasseR> As in installing it installs _ubuntu_
[06:14] <MasseR> And removing it removes only the dummy package
[06:14] <gerhard> MasseR, might be
[06:14] <sonics> gerhard: I just want thunderbird to become my main mail application
[06:14] <sonics> MasseR: hmm ok, so it wont have any effects?
[06:14] <gerhard> sonics, then install thunderbird
[06:14] <MasseR> sonics: It shouldn't at least
[06:15] <MasseR> But for that it's enough that you install thunderbid
[06:15] <MasseR> And in system-preferences-preferred applications
[06:15] <MasseR> You can change your mail program to your liking
[06:15] <sonics> ahhwhhh
[06:15] <sonics> ok thnx
[06:15] <dewd_> yes and then you need a package to support sendto
[06:15] <dewd_> nautilus-sendto by default only works with evo
[06:16] <sonics> like which one?
[06:16] <dewd_> theres a topic on ubuntuforums.org about it
[06:16] <poprofits> how i install the codecs to listen to music ?
[06:16] <MasseR> poprofits: With what? :P
[06:16] <nickspoon> !media
[06:16] <MasseR> Amarok? Xmms?
[06:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:16] <nickspoon> !mp3
[06:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <poprofits> what do u mwan ?
[06:17] <MasseR> Oh. Nice
[06:17] <darnell_> how can the login music be changed?
[06:17] <graymer> hello to all. just a question: will the final release of 6.10 have firefox 2.0 final?
[06:17] <poprofits> i tryed to insytall the amarok player but it doesnt work
[06:17] <crimsun> graymer: yes, plus additional patch(es)
[06:17] <jrib> !doesn't work | poprofits
[06:17] <ubotu> poprofits: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:18] <MasseR> jrib: I bet he's trying to play mp3 through amarok
[06:18] <graymer> nice
[06:18] <pradeep> graymer, RC3 = final
[06:18] <MasseR> Which requires libgxinesomething
[06:18] <Baco> Art0131k BG gcmenleri bir arada bulusuyor sende gel ye ol sende kat0131l aram0131za yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam.  www.gocmeniz.net
[06:18] <KalEl> i have a question.... i have a Laptop with a socket 754 CPU Turion64 Mobile processor, can I upgrade that if i want
[06:18] <KalEl> it seems to be just socket
[06:18] <Baco> www.gocmeniz.net
[06:18] <KalEl> not soldered
[06:18] <Baco> Art0131k BG gcmenleri bir arada bulusuyor sende gel ye ol sende kat0131l aram0131za yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam.  www.gocmeniz.net
[06:19] <poprofits> i instaled the amarok.. but when i PLAY the musik it doesnt work..
[06:19] <KalEl> and in fact it has a way to access ot
[06:19] <KalEl> it*
[06:19] <ryctor> doesnt work?
[06:19] <Pons> guys, i have an asus p4s800 with a p4 processor and ubuntu edgy and 2.6.17-10 kernel, and when i reboot the computer using commands (shutdown -r now) or using gnome menu, the system just says "rebooting system" but never does.. if I halt (shutdown -h now) it does halt.. any of you have had this same problem?
[06:19] <poprofits> i tryed to install the codecs via terminal but the terminal doesnt seems to find the packege
[06:19] <ryctor> it crashes?, hangs? what
[06:20] <Baco> Art0131k BG gcmenleri bir arada bulusuyor sende gel ye ol sende kat0131l aram0131za yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam.  www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <Baco> Art0131k BG gcmenleri bir arada bulusuyor sende gel ye ol sende kat0131l aram0131za yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam.  www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <Baco> Art0131k BG gcmenleri bir arada bulusuyor sende gel ye ol sende kat0131l aram0131za yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam.  www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <Baco> Art0131k BG gcmenleri bir arada bulusuyor sende gel ye ol sende kat0131l aram0131za yeni arkadasl0131klar yap0131n ve yeni ortam.  www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <LoRez> Warning: `Baco' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[06:20] <MasseR> poprofits: apt-cache search libgxine
[06:20] <Baco> www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <jrib> !ops
[06:20] <Baco> www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:20] <Baco> www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <Baco> www.gocmeniz.net
[06:20] <LoRez> Warning: `Baco' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[06:20] <bina> yay
[06:20] <Amaranth> dang, beat me to it
[06:20] <gerhard> cool
[06:21] <pierre-> hello. when trying to access my apache or ftpd from different subnet i always get "connection refused". Could you help me?
[06:21] <Pons> pierre-: check the subnet mask on both machines
[06:22] <Pons> for example 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1
[06:22] <Pons> subnet mask should be
[06:22] <Pons> 255.255.0.0
[06:23] <jbroome> err, 255.255.255.0
[06:23] <poprofits> what command i have to give to ubuntu to install the audio codecs ?
[06:23] <kjm> !audio
[06:23] <Zaggynl> sudo giev codecs
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Pons> jbroome: if it is 255.255.255.0, you'll never get connection between those 2 machines
[06:24] <apokryphos> poprofits: please read the FAQ
[06:24] <Pons> that's why i say it should be 255.255.0.0
[06:24] <Zaggynl> pardon my silly
[06:24] <MasseR> poprofits: Try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:24] <Zaggynl> poprofits, http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[06:25] <pierre-> Pons: where can i set the subnet mask?
[06:25] <Pons> in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:25] <Pons> or in gnome configurator
[06:25] <poprofits> it says that the package is not avaiable
[06:25] <kjm> pierre - System->Administration->Network, or /etc/network/interfaces
[06:25] <sonics> anyone got this nautilus-sendto-thunderbird plugin running?
[06:25] <apokryphos> poprofits: please read the FAQ
[06:26] <apokryphos> MasseR: ....and that's why the simple command for things like this isn't a great idea. Since multiverse needs to be enabled, for new users you need to explain how that's done, etc.
[06:26] <poprofits> puta q pariu viu mano
[06:27] <MasseR> apokryphos: True
[06:27] <cherubiel> guys, 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[06:27] <cherubiel> whats the driver for this one?
[06:27] <apokryphos> poprofits: what?
[06:27] <jrib> poprofits: be nice please, people here are volunteers
[06:28] <boink> !language
[06:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:28] <boink> and yes, we understand "puta"
[06:28] <jbroome> go have sex with your hand?
[06:28] <darnell_> how can the login music be changed?
[06:29] <sergevn> everyone understands "puta" it's even a fashion mark.
[06:29] <apokryphos> Yes, and people using needlessly profane language won't remain here
[06:29] <dewd_> puta? never heard of
[06:29] <dcordes> like hijo de puta puta?
[06:29] <dewd_> no
[06:30] <flapane> compiled a smp kernel for my new a64 x2 3800 but it hangs at booting
 powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure and then kernel panic
[06:30] <flapane> wth?
[06:30] <dcordes> lolz
[06:30] <pierre-> Pons: thanks, all works good!
[06:31] <kjm> flapane - I looks like your BIOS isn't supporting SMP?  Have you enabled it in BIOS?
[06:31] <flapane> sure no problems in windoze
[06:31] <flapane> i am googling and it seems a common issue
[06:31] <kjm> heh - I've not run across that - but I'm on HT Intel, don't know much about multiprocessor machines.  Sorry
[06:31] <flapane> that's a DFI NF4 Ultra-d , probably the best and best supported a64 motherboards
[06:32] <flapane> i hope I can point it out!
[06:32] <mumrah> i have a problem booting my live cd
[06:32] <mumrah> i'm told it has to do with me having scsi drives
[06:32] <CarlFK> "dpkg -i foo.deb" (I just made foo.deb) says 'dependency problems prevent...'  - ":apt-get -f install" will install the deps and foo - is there a 'right' way to install foo.deb?
[06:32] <boink> CarlFK: man apt-get
[06:32] <boink> and man apt-cache as well
[06:33] <kitche> mumrah: a cd shouldn't care if you have scsi drives or not unless you install from the cd
[06:33] <CarlFK> kitche: does your box boot from the scsi CD drive?
[06:34] <CarlFK> er
[06:34] <CarlFK> mumrah:  does your box boot from the scsi CD drive?
[06:34] <mumrah> yea
[06:34] <mumrah> i get to the boot command line
[06:35] <CarlFK> boink: I don't see anywhere to specify foo.deb in apt-get/cache
[06:35] <mumrah> carlfk: and it loads two things, then dies
[06:36] <CarlFK> mumrah: dapper or edgy?
[06:36] <CarlFK> mumrah: try edgy, if it doesn't work, post a bug report quick :)
[06:37] <boink> apt-cache/apt-get is installing the software and its dependicies
[06:37] <mumrah> carlfk: edgy, but i've tried dapper as well
[06:37] <sidny4> Initializing sound...Error opening a sound device.
[06:37] <boink> dpkg -i doesn't install the depedicies
[06:37] <sidny4> how do I fix that in FCEU?
[06:37] <tjb> Could anyone link me to a page detailing what's new (from Dapper) in Edgy?
[06:38] <CarlFK> boink: now that you have summed up my problem - know of a solution?
[06:38] <Twister829> Hey... I have a really noob problem... on all the apps I'm trying to install I can ./configure just fine... but everytime I type ./make it just gives me a no file or directory found error message...
[06:38] <Twister829> Can anyone help?
[06:38] <boink> well .. look for what you want to install with apt-cache
[06:38] <rapha> Hi all!
[06:38] <boink> see if it's there
[06:38] <MarcN> Twister829: type    make   not ./make
[06:38] <Twister829> make just gives me make: command not found
[06:39] <CarlFK> boink: foo.deb <-- I just made, so itwon't be anywhere but my local drive
[06:39] <sidny4> Twister829, install build-essential
[06:39] <boink> ooh, I see
[06:39] <rapha> I as
[06:39] <Twister829> okay, thanks sidny...
[06:39] <rapha> Oops, sorry.
[06:39] <boink> then just dpkg -i foo.deb should work
[06:39] <MarcN> Twister829: you have a typo
[06:39] <CarlFK> Twister829: you may want to look at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[06:39] <sidny4> yup
[06:39] <rapha> I can only scan as root; can somebody help me to make it work as a user as well?
[06:39] <boink> !tell Twister829 about buildessential
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <boink> !tell Twister829 about buildessentials
[06:39] <sonics> is there anyone experienced with wpa_supplicant?!
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <CarlFK> Twister829: and maybe by the time you get to the dpkg -i part I will have figured it out :)
[06:40] <rapha> (I got "user scanner devices" checked in the Users and Groups screen)
[06:40] <boink> *gnaw*
[06:40] <sidny4> !build-essential > Twister829
[06:40] <boink> ta
[06:40] <Twister829> I got it through synap
[06:40] <sidny4> good deal
[06:40] <sidny4> the make command should work now
[06:40] <Twister829> looks like that'll do it
[06:40] <Twister829> thanks
[06:40] <MarcN> sidny4: Twister829 is doing ./make   that is is problem
[06:40] <sidny4> yup, he knows
[06:41] <CarlFK> boink: getting closer.  "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of foo" - trying to resolve that in a clean way (apt-get -f install doesn't seem clean)
[06:41] <sidny4> random question, is ./whatever the same as sh whatever?
[06:42] <CarlFK> Twister829: if you plan on doing "make install", read UpdatingADeb first
[06:42] <johnm1019> is there anyway to play music off my ipod on ubuntu?
[06:42] <boink> ipod - tool for retrieving informations from iPods
[06:42] <johnm1019> excellent
[06:42] <boink> I did an apt-cache search ipod
[06:42] <boink> do one too, I've never used an ipod :)
[06:43] <mumrah> anyone know what boot parameters i need to boot my live cd with scsi?
[06:43] <psiborg> johnm1019: can't rhythmbox play from the ipod directly?
[06:43] <johnm1019> psiborg, it tried, but each song i clicked play on came back with a red 'do not enter' type sign next to it and failed
[06:44] <Dasnipa] [> psiborg, i believe that music encoded on an ipod from apples utilities gets DRMed
[06:44] <jcaceres> heloo i have a laptoip  with procesor turion 64, and i want to run kubuntu in it, initialy i had a problem withthe dick that ubuntu send me, thet i downloaded the alternate vesrion ad suggested in some web, i tyied  but with not succes
[06:44] <jcaceres>  the error i get  sais
[06:44] <psiborg> ah, i never actually used itunes with mine..
[06:45] <wastrel> itunes
[06:45] <edgy_kubuntu> hi together
[06:45] <edgy_kubuntu> i have a problem witch smbfs in edgy
[06:46] <jcaceres> kernel panic not syncing : attempt to kill init
[06:46] <edgy_kubuntu> i nopaste my fstab one moment pls
[06:46] <jcaceres> any idea of how to solve my issue with amd turion 64
[06:46] <rag> please what's programs for multimedia, tv, radio, etc? links?
[06:47] <edgy_kubuntu> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jlnhaC97.html  <---- it's the "Samba-Share" Section
[06:47] <edgy_kubuntu> could somebody tell me whats wrog or is it a bug?
[06:47] <wastrel> !es
[06:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:47] <Twister829> Do you guys have any suggestions for good DVD players in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <cbx33> edgy_kubuntu, does it work manually?
[06:48] <edgy_kubuntu> yes
[06:48] <sidny4> Twister829, I usually use VLC, it can open pretty much any media file without extra codecs
[06:49] <edgy_kubuntu> a "sudo mount -t smbfs -o uid=1000,umask=022,username=exmethix/Devils-netz,password= //Devil-server/C /windows/devil-server-c" works fine
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> Twister829, mplayer isgood aswell
[06:49] <flapane> no one with a64 x2 and 2.6.18 kernel?
[06:49] <Twister829> Yeah, I'm installing mplayer right now...
[06:49] <sidny4> yup, there are several media players that will play dvds just fine
[06:49] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: ?! any ideas?
[06:49] <Twister829> I've tried KMplayer... but it won't play my dvd's
[06:49] <cbx33> edgy_kubuntu, tried it with the exact options as in the fstab?
[06:49] <cbx33> wit hthe credentials
[06:50] <sidny4> you probably need libdvdcss
[06:50] <cbx33> also check the samba logs
[06:50] <zMott> this is going to get some replies.. best mp3 player and ripper..etc
[06:50] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: good idea... will test
[06:50] <alekz> will edgy use iceweasel or firefox ?
[06:50] <Twister829> I think I have that already
[06:51] <sidny4> ok
[06:51] <sanityx> anybody have any luck compiling rrs (reverse remote shell) on dapper?
[06:51] <cbx33> alekz, at the mo it's firefox
[06:51] <_rodney> how to turn iptables on again ?
[06:51] <Twister829> what about Ogle... ever used it?
[06:51] <sidny4> hmm, never heard of it
[06:52] <wastrel> !firestarter/m
[06:52] <Twister829> I hear it's great...
[06:52] <wastrel> bah
[06:52] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: with same options it works fine
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firestarter/m - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <wastrel> !firestarter
[06:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:53] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: moment i nopaste the logs
[06:53] <zMott> heard quod libet was suppose to the best for ubuntu
[06:53] <dewd_> mpg321 ftw
[06:53] <_rodney> ah yeah thanks i had the wrong ip lol
[06:54] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: uff .... i can't find a log for samba in /var/log
[06:54] <cbx33> edgy_kubuntu, hmmm
[06:54] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: veryl strange right
[06:54] <edgy_kubuntu> ;)
[06:55] <infinito> somebody using EDGY with a 1280x800 screen??
[06:55] <cbx33> nope 1280x1024
[06:55] <edgy_kubuntu> 1024x768
[06:55] <edgy_kubuntu> xD
[06:55] <dewd_> yes
[06:55] <dewd_> no
[06:55] <KuroiShi> this is the strangest problem i've ever had.  Gnome works fine when i launch it, until i launch another program.  Then my mouse only works in the program and gnome doesn't respond to any clicks, until I kill that program, then my mouse works fine in gnome again, until I launch another program.
[06:55] <dewd_> 1280x1024 sorry
[06:56] <dewd_> broken xlibs?
[06:56] <edgy_kubuntu> you have any ideas?
[06:56] <wastrel> edgy channel is #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <cherubiel> i have inserted the snd-hda-intel module.. my sound still isn;t loud enough
[06:56] <cherubiel> any pointers?
[06:56] <dewd_> alsamixer
[06:56] <teledyn> alsamixergui
[06:57] <St_MPA3b> xfce is better than gnome? (my pc isnt old)
[06:57] <johnm1019> gtkpod with xmms did the trick :)
[06:57] <astrum-x> what are some good solutions when i get "invalid or corrupt kernel image." from the install cd 6.06?
[06:57] <St_MPA3b> xfce is better than gnome? (my pc isnt old)
[06:57] <teledyn> St_MPA3b: choice of desktop env is dependent on many things
[06:57] <cherubiel> all is 100%, still no improvement in loudness.
[06:57] <dewd_> try the knob on the speakers
[06:57] <apokryphos> St_MPA3b: please don't repeat so quickly. They're different; xfce is more lightweight
[06:57] <St_MPA3b> astrum-x i think, bad CD
[06:57] <dewd_> try another cable
[06:57] <Ambimom> astrum: burn another iso, or get shipit version
[06:57] <astrum-x> that is logical
[06:58] <St_MPA3b> apokryphos my pc is modern
[06:58] <apokryphos> St_MPA3b: I recommend that you try all of the desktop environments
[06:58] <cherubiel> dewd_: its a laptop.
[06:58] <St_MPA3b> apokryphos ok...
[06:58] <dewd_> try another ogg file
[06:58] <cybe> The topic is talking about problems with the nvidia drivers... is that why the nvidia-glx package is broken?
[06:58] <apokryphos> St_MPA3b: most specifically, KDE ;-)
[06:58] <dewd_> or generate tones with sox
[06:58] <cherubiel> i am playing mp3s in xmms
[06:58] <apokryphos> cybe: nope
[06:58] <cherubiel> the same ones are loud in windoze..
[06:58] <apokryphos> CheekyBoinc: I feel for you
[06:59] <apokryphos> * cherubiel
[06:59] <apokryphos> damn tab completion
[06:59] <St_MPA3b> apokryphos eh... i'll try xfce now...
[06:59] <cybe> Okay.... Just can't download the nvidia-glx drivers :(
[06:59] <teledyn> cybe: no that's a security problem only
[06:59] <kitche> cybe: that thing in the topic is talking about a security problem
[06:59] <cybe> okay
[06:59] <teledyn> cybe: apt-cache search nvidia
[06:59] <cybe> I just thought the security problem might also have occured in the nvidia-glx drivers, and therefore they had been temporaly removed
[07:00] <teledyn> cybe: its part of the restricted modules for the linux image
[07:00] <apokryphos> cybe: what's the exact error you're getting, and are you talking about edgy?
[07:00] <cybe> no, Dapper Drake... 2 secs, pasting the error
[07:00] <apokryphos> cybe: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin.
[07:01] <ice-t> hi! im using gnome but i want amarok to be aware of my keyboard-shortcuts. can anybody help me please?
[07:01] <apokryphos> ice-t: settings -> configure shortcuts/global shortcuts
[07:01] <Laibsch> I have a Linux PDA (Sharp SL-5500) which I can connect via USB.  When I was still on Debian, I had some hotplug stuff to automatically configure usb0.  With ubuntu, I guess, I need to use udev.  Can somebody tell me how I can assign usb0 the IP 192.168.129.1 as soon as the PDA is plugged in?
[07:01] <cybe> Sorry, don't know what a pastebin is... But the problem is that it has unmet dependencies, and last it shows this in the console: E: Broken Packages
[07:01] <apokryphos> cybe: please pastebin the whole output, if you can
[07:01] <tec> hi how do i install .gz themes in ubuntu?
[07:01] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[07:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:01] <tec> it says invalid format when i drag it to theme manager
[07:02] <Ambimom> tec: try synaptic
[07:02] <ice-t> apokryphos, sure, but they do not work
[07:02] <apokryphos> ice-t: erm, are you sure?
[07:02] <rag> links for tv, radio and multimedia ,  programs for ubuntu?
[07:02] <ice-t> apokryphos, one moment please
[07:02] <apokryphos> ice-t: that is, if you assign them in settings -> configure shortcuts
[07:02] <apokryphos> rag: check the FAQ
[07:03] <ice-t> apokryphos, yes, but there is nothing like "global shortcuts"
[07:03] <cybe> okay, pasted it to the pastbin
[07:03] <St_MPA3b> i installed xfce. How can i run it now?
[07:03] <apokryphos> ice-t: there is, in amarok. Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts
[07:03] <apokryphos> St_MPA3b: logout, select it, login
[07:03] <kitche> cybe: you have to post the link
[07:03] <St_MPA3b> apokryphos select it? =/
[07:04] <cybe> haha, ups :p http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28122/
[07:04] <ice-t> apokryphos, oh, ok thank you. i'll try
[07:04] <apokryphos> St_MPA3b: in "Session", you'll see it in the login screen.
[07:05] <roberts> Seeing as Edgy Eft's release is almost upon us, I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is better support for hardware found in Apple's MacBooks?
[07:05] <rag> apokryphos: faq? which link please
[07:05] <ice-t> wow, thank you very much apokryphos, it works :)
[07:05] <cybe> rag: well, if you download Automatix there's a lot of the programs you want
[07:06] <Twister829> I finally got my DVD's to work but everything is extremely bright... the white is way too strong... any ideas?
[07:06] <Twister829> Bad driver for vid card?
[07:06] <Ambimom> cybe: automatix2 also
[07:06] <Twister829> the same for my avis and mpgs
[07:06] <kitche> cybe: hmm seems like the dependencies are messed up the versions are wrong
[07:06] <rag> ice-t: ok already i have automatix, but what program to use for see tv , radio
[07:07] <cybe> kitche: so is there anything I can do about it? Or will i have to wait?
[07:07] <Ambimom> rag: democracy tv
[07:07] <Ambimom> rag: myth tv
[07:07] <kitche> cybe: well if you really wanted to you could download the binary driver yourself
[07:07] <Ambimom> rag: also check bittorrent sites for tv programs
[07:08] <cybe> Is that the offical then? Or can i download the nvidia-glx binaries somewhere?
[07:08] <kitche> rag: for tv I would use kdetv not sure about many radio programs for linux
[07:08] <cybe> And would it be too complicated?
[07:08] <Xyphosura> hello all, I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22
[07:08] <Xyphosura> drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:08] <JuJuBee> Where can I get assistance with ATI drivers for Ubuntu?
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> !ati
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <Ambimom> lots of radio programs
[07:08] <ice-t> rag, im not a big fan of automatix. and i do not have a tv-card too...
[07:08] <Ambimom> google radio
[07:08] <kitche> cybe: you can try installing each package seperately
[07:09] <roberts> Will Edgy Eft have better MacBook and MacBook Pro hardware support?
[07:09] <ice-t> i only sometimes listen to radio-streams, and then i use xmms or amarok
[07:09] <edgy_kubuntu> cbx33: ?!?
[07:09] <cybe> kitche: well, tried the nvidia-kernel, but it had no installation candidate
[07:09] <roberts> Was that something that was thought of for this next 6.10 release?
[07:09] <kitche> cybe: do you have the restricted repo in your source.lst?
[07:09] <teasum> Help!  I'm sitting in a coffee shop, and suddenly my CPU is at 98-99%, and my root partition filled to 100%... now I cannot save anything in OOo, can't run synaptic, etc. Help!
[07:10] <cybe> kitche: 2 sec, will check
[07:10] <Xyphosura> I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. No i'm not looking for the proprietary ati drivers, everytime i ask this people start about fglrx.:-P
[07:10] <teasum> I ran "top" in a terminal window, and cupsd is running at 96+%...
[07:10] <ice-t> teasum, can you see in "top" which process uses all the cpu-time?
[07:10] <ice-t> oh
[07:10] <ice-t> k
[07:11] <Shaezsche> ubuntu will only play sound if i plug a device into my headphone jack. It doesnt recognize my laptop's speakers
[07:11] <teasum> cupsd uses all the CPU load
[07:11] <ice-t> cups is for printing, right?
[07:11] <kitche> ice-t yea
[07:11] <ice-t> killall cupsd i would say
[07:11] <boink> cups is for printing
[07:11] <teasum> yep... but I'm in a coffee shop... no printer here
[07:11] <boink> /etc/init.d/cupsd stop
[07:11] <ice-t> or kill -9 pid
[07:11] <teasum> I should kill the copsd process ? ok I'll try...
[07:11] <Twister829> Hey everyone, my desktop graphics look fine... along with pictures.  But when I try to play movies (avi, mpg, dvd) it is extremely bright to the point of being a white blur.  Any suggestions?
[07:11] <ice-t> teasum, the solution of boink is much better
[07:12] <Ambimom> twister: you have to change preferences
[07:12] <cybe> kitche: Thats the "Restricted Copyright" thing in synaptic right?
[07:12] <Xyphosura> teasum: if you have not enough harddisk space you can always try "sudo apt-get clean",  i cleans some files of the packet manager
[07:12] <Ambimom> twister: what player?
[07:12] <kitche> cybe: think so
[07:12] <teasum> just copy and past "/etc/init.d/cupsd stop" to a terminal, right?
[07:12] <Twister829> I'm using Kaffeine
[07:12] <rag> thx
[07:12] <boink> teasum: sudo
[07:12] <Twister829> but it's universale
[07:12] <cybe> kitche: That's crossed...
[07:12] <Twister829> in gxine it does the same
[07:12] <ice-t> teasum, yes
[07:12] <Ambimom> twister: you can try resetting your monitor to defaults
[07:12] <kitche> cybe well it seems like you have that repo enabled then
[07:13] <ice-t> teasum, where are coffeshops with ubuntu installed?
[07:13] <Twister829> Under System>Preferences?
[07:13] <tec> how do i use synaptic to install .gz themes
[07:13] <roberts> ice-t: laptops?
[07:13] <Ambimom> twister: no under player preferences or just reset your monitor
[07:13] <teasum> no dice:  ~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd stop
[07:13] <teasum> sudo: /etc/init.d/cupsd: command not found
[07:13] <boink> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop .. sorry
[07:13] <kitche> ice-t: it's his own machine
[07:13] <cybe> kitche: yeah... Don't know what it means that it has no Installation Candidate... But never had that problem before
[07:13] <Twister829> I'll try it
[07:13] <joona> tec: you don't.
[07:13] <ice-t> oh, ok
[07:13] <ice-t> =)
[07:13] <medinamateos> hola como estais
[07:14] <teasum> ice-t, I'm on my laptop in a coffee shop... I should have been clearer...
[07:14] <phaedrus44> bien
[07:14] <rag> but programs without tv card?
[07:14] <rag> via internet?
[07:14] <joona> tec: if you are running gnome, try installing gnome-art via synaptic and use that to search and install themes
[07:14] <Ambimom> bittorrent or usenet have loads of tv programs
[07:14] <medinamateos> ola
[07:14] <teasum> boink, that worked...
[07:14] <teasum> thanks
[07:14] <r_rehashed> hi guys. i wasn't able 2 install 6.06 on my core 2 duo( :) ) pc. the installation stalled giving some PCI bus error. the same happened with fedora. is it because it was the 32-bit version?
[07:14] <ice-t> teasum, if nothing helps, take a digi-cam and take pictures of your work in openoffice :P
[07:14] <medinamateos> ola
[07:14] <iter> http://insitu.lri.fr/~roussel/videos/metisse/facades/uifacades.mov
[07:15] <teasum> ice-t, yeah the old-fashioned 'screenshot'
[07:15] <cybe> rag: for radio you can use streamtuner
[07:15] <ice-t> teasum, try to kill the process with kill or killall
[07:15] <cybe> rag: in that program you just enter the URLs for your online radio stations
[07:15] <teasum> problem now is that my root partition is 100% full... and I can't run many programs...
[07:15] <medinamateos> -hkli-
[07:15] <roberts> teasum: Try cleaning out your package cache.
[07:15] <rag> ah ok and links for streamtunner
[07:15] <tec> k thanks
[07:16] <rag> music
[07:16] <teasum> I used "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop" and that stopped the process...
[07:16] <cybe> Don't have any... but a fast google-search will give you lots of results
[07:16] <teasum> roberts: ok... where exactly is that located?
[07:16] <rag> ok thanks!
[07:17] <r_rehashed> i wonder whether my 6.06 debs will install in edgy eft
[07:17] <boink> r_rehashed: why would you want that?
[07:17] <roberts> teasum: I know there's a command to do it, but I usually just open aptitude, then hit the "Actions" pull-down menu and choose the option "Clean package cache"
[07:17] <ice-t> teasum, obviously cupsd spammed your harddisk. maybe you can find out where the files are that cupsd wrote and delete them
[07:17] <boink> your own .debs ... well, recompile them on 6.10
[07:17] <rag> sorry people, i have a problem with aptitude it say me that i have a package on state very very bad!
[07:17] <iter> teasum: sudo apt-get clean
[07:17] <teasum> I can't even run my gksudo nautilus... I get an error: "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[07:18] <cybe> Well... i suppose i'll just have to wait until the package has been fixed... Maybe I'll try the offical drivers, but it won't be right now. Thanks anyway =)
[07:18] <teasum> ah, that makes sense... I'll try it crom the command line...
[07:18] <teasum> hold on
[07:18] <r_rehashed> boink: because i have a download limit and so can't keep downloading packages
[07:19] <teasum> "sudo apt-get clean" only bought me 10m of free space!  I used to have 1.5+gb free...
[07:19] <ice-t> teasum,  du -h --max-depth=1
[07:19] <teasum> ice-t, good idea... should have thought about that...
[07:19] <r_rehashed> i am waiting to see the new booting system in 6.10
[07:19] <ice-t> teasum, maybe this helps you where the files are
[07:20] <ice-t> *to find out
[07:20] <iter> teasum: find / -size +1000k -print
[07:20] <iter> shows all files over 100MB
[07:20] <iter> (about)
[07:20] <sidny4> how do I check if alsa is running right?
[07:20] <teasum> iter, I didn't know that command before... I'll try it...
[07:20] <iter> also you can check /var/log to see if you got some huge logfiles
[07:21] <roberts> Will Edgy Eft have better MacBook and MacBook Pro hardware support?
[07:21] <miranda82> hello
[07:21] <r_rehashed> miranda82: welcome
[07:22] <miranda82> does anyone here know, why i can't autocomplete(double tab) on files?
[07:22] <cybe> rag: actually you don't have to find any stream URLs.. Just press the SHOUTCast button, and it'll show a lot of'em... you can even record the streams (wich is a  fully legal way to get fraa music by)
[07:22] <iter> teasum: typo, should be 100000k there
[07:22] <edgy_kubuntu> http://rafb.net/paste/results/00AoQP64.html  <--- nobody has an idea to this?
[07:23] <Xyphosura>  I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. No i'm not looking for the proprietary ati drivers, everytime i ask this people start about fglrx.:-P
[07:23] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: do mount -v
[07:23] <AsheD> http://qdb.us/70701
[07:24] <iter> might be perms on your .smbcredentials file?
[07:24] <teasum> iter, haha... I was wondering why I was getting a bazillion files...
[07:24] <variant> Xyphosura: the dri should be enabled by default
[07:24] <miranda82> does anyone here know, why i can't autocomplete(double tab) on files, if it is wine DIROFAPP  FILENAME
[07:24] <teasum> let me try that again....
[07:24] <variant> Xyphosura: what model of card do you have?
[07:24] <Xyphosura> ati radeon 9250
[07:24] <iter> teasum: err yeah 1000k is 1MB heh
[07:24] <iter> (almost)
[07:24] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: http://rafb.net/paste/results/m3SK6d59.html
[07:24] <cybe>  :> I have a Lenovo 3000 N100 computer, with a built in webcam, i tried EasyCam2, but it doesn't support my webcam... Does enyone have a solution?
[07:25] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: was /dec/hda5 mounted before ?
[07:25] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: i tried the same withous smbcredentials.... the same
[07:25] <sidny4> !alsa
[07:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:25] <teasum> iter, is there a way to restrict that command to a partition (i.e. /dev/hda) as opposed to root (i.e. /)?
[07:26] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: ?!? what do you mean?
[07:26] <teasum> I ask because it's searching everything that's mounted...
[07:26] <dnite> anyone know where i can find a good tutorial or article online on how to get a logitech MX900 bluetooth mouse to work with Edgy??
[07:26] <miranda82> does anyone here know, why i can't autocomplete(double tab) on files, if it is wine DIROFAPP  FILENAME
[07:26] <Xyphosura> variant: i understood that the radeon driver is better for 3d with radeon cards like mine
[07:26] <iter> teasum: yes just give it the path where dev/hda is mounted instead of /
[07:26] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: was /dev/hda mounted before you ran mount -v
[07:26] <teasum> thanks...
[07:26] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: /dev/hda5 that is...
[07:26] <roberts> Can one upgrade to Edgy Eft already using a command within Dapper Drake?
[07:26] <superjon> Can anyone help with a stupid ssl sockets problem? http://rafb.net/paste/results/Dakme675.html
[07:27] <iter> roberts: yes
[07:27] <iter> roberts: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <kitche> roberts: yes just change your source.lst to say edgy instead of dapper
[07:27] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: yes /dev/hda is mounted everyltime when i start my pc :D
[07:27] <fildo> away sleep / work / sleep / party /  party / cashless
[07:27] <roberts> I can't imagine too much will change that's important in the next two days =P
[07:27] <iter> then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:27] <superjon> Calling send_message once with a request to list all keys works perfectly. Calling it with the exact same function again doesn't, but once the alarm fires, it shows that it returned the correct data
[07:27] <miranda82> does anyone here know, why i can't autocomplete(double tab) on files, if it is wine DIROFAPP  FILENAME
[07:27] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: but the smbfs entry in the fstab is not working
[07:27] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: i mounted it manually
[07:27] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: oh crud sorry
[07:27] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: read that wrong
[07:28] <teasum> iter, looks like I have 3 huge log files in /var/log... 516mb each!
[07:28] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: I meant the smb share
[07:28] <roberts> kitche: Okay so once it says edgy, do I just do an apt-get update then upgrade, ot do I have to do something like a dist-upgrade?
[07:28] <iter> teasum: rm them if you so choose
[07:28] <kitche> roberts: have to do a apt-get update
[07:28] <iter> teasum: you won't break anything if you recreate the files again
[07:28] <rag> cybe: ah ok thx
[07:29] <kitche> roberts then do a dist-upgrade
[07:29] <iter> roberts: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <teasum> iter, thanks... can you tell me (or point me to a faq) why or how this happened, and how I can prevent it?
[07:29] <cybe> rag: Your welcoma ^^
[07:29] <cybe> rag: *welcome
[07:29] <jrib> miranda82: dirofapp and filename should be one thing, no unescaped spaces
[07:29] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: as i sayd the smb share could only be mounted manually.... in fstab it is exactly the same but its not mounted
[07:29] <iter> teasum: why it happened? you are loggin a lot of stuff and the logfile got too big
[07:29] <edgy_kubuntu> iter: do you think its time for a bug report?
[07:30] <miranda82> jrib, different things, passing filename as an argument e.g. wine Pando/pando.exe file.pando
[07:30] <cybe> edgy_kubuntu: I know it's only a workaround, but couldn't you add the command to a script, and then make that script start up automaticly?
[07:30] <teasum> iter, well, ok, but I didn't change anything, and I went from 1.5+gb free space to 100% full in something like an hour...
[07:30] <Leone> i dont have internet in my ubuntu , i am now at my live cd any1 can help me?
[07:30] <Subhuman> how do i kill (not restart) X and keep it shut? i need to do the nvidia update
[07:30] <iter> teasum: wow, what are the 3 log files that got so big
[07:30] <Subhuman> but i cant while #x is running
[07:31] <edgy_kubuntu> cybe: yes i just did that
[07:31] <iter> edgy_kubuntu: yeah that's an odd error
[07:31] <kitche> Subhuman: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:31] <teasum> iter:
[07:31] <iter> bugtraq
[07:31] <teasum> oops
[07:31] <edgy_kubuntu> good to know
[07:31] <cybe> edgy_kubuntu: okay...
[07:31] <teasum> iter:
[07:31] <teasum> /var/log/syslog.0
[07:31] <teasum> /var/log/kern.log.0
[07:31] <teasum> /var/log/messages.0
[07:31] <misha> Hi folks. I'm struggling with a line in my /etc/fstab-file. I'm trying to mount a samba-directory, '//nslu2/DISK 1/Music'. Unfortunately thespace in "DISK 1" causes an error when I try to run a mount-command. Removing the space from the source-directory is troublesome. What should I enter in the fstab-file to get this to work? Thx in advance!
[07:31] <St_MPA3b> where can i get new Gnome toolbar items?
[07:31] <iter> misha: you have to escape the space with the \ character
[07:32] <Subhuman> kitche,  thaks man
[07:32] <jrib> miranda82: ah "pathofapp" then, but it is working here, can you try with a clean user?
[07:32] <teasum> iter, I was just  browsing and typing in OOo, and then I noticed that gkrellm was going nuts... then I saw that my root partition had filled up... no idea what happened
[07:32] <miranda82> jrib, with root it works
[07:32] <cybe> /nslu2/DISK\ 1/Music
[07:32] <iter> teasum: do tail -n 100 /var/log/messages.0 and see what's up
[07:32] <misha> iter: I tried that, too - the error message is "[mntent] : line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad"
[07:32] <cybe> misha: just use this: //nslu2/DISK\ 1/Music
[07:33] <Xyphosura> I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver.
[07:33] <teasum> iter:  I just see a lot of this:
[07:33] <teasum> Oct 24 04:35:51 localhost kernel: [17241092.108000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 5952252
[07:33] <teasum> Oct 24 04:35:51 localhost kernel: [17241092.112000]  hdc: tray open
[07:33] <iter> misha: use /040 instead of space
[07:33] <jrib> miranda82: see if you are sourcing /etc/bash_completion somewhere
[07:33] <Leone> i cant connect to internet in my ubuntu , anyone can help me please?!?!
[07:34] <miranda82> jrib, sorry?
[07:34] <boink> !ask
[07:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:34] <iter> teasum: ouch
[07:34] <iter> teasum: well, that's the cause
[07:34] <cybe> misha: have you tried mounting at manually?
[07:34] <teasum> iter, I don't know what that means :))
[07:34] <Xyphosura> leone: can you be more specific, are you using a wireless card or just lan?
[07:34] <iter> teasum: I/O error on hard drive
[07:34] <roberts> Hmm, so I just started a dist-upgrade to Edgy, but I may need to temporarily disconnect then reconnect to the internet
[07:34] <roberts> Is there a way to pause the process.
[07:34] <teasum> ack!!!!!
[07:34] <iter> teasum: generally not a nice error
[07:34] <misha> cybe: Yep, works like a charm :(
[07:34] <miranda82> jrib, what i have to look in that file
[07:34] <teasum> iter, no!!!! don't say that!!
[07:35] <Spec> Heya...I've got a bunch of .avi files that I want to convert to mp4 (for iPod video), how would I go about doing that? (cli is best)
[07:35] <misha> and the 040-trick don't work, either...
[07:35] <ubuntu__> year
[07:35] <ubuntu__> hello world
[07:35] <teasum> holy freakin' crap... I just replaced this drive after another crashed and I lost all my data!!!
[07:35] <cybe> misha: okay :s just add the mount line to a script, and make that start up automatically.... Only if nothing else show up of course :(
[07:35] <Leone> Xyphosura, lan
[07:35] <Leone> in a router
[07:35] <jrib> miranda82: see if your ~/.bashrc mentions /etc/bash_completion  That is my guess as to why it isn't working, but I am not sure
[07:35] <teasum> oh for the love of... *&^
[07:35] <misha> cybe: That's cheating, isn't it :)
[07:35] <iter> misha:  //nslu2/DISK\0401/Music
[07:35] <miranda82> jrib, cool
[07:35] <JuJuBee> OK, I read and followed the directiions for installing ATI drivers.  I get to the end and something is wrong.  I have had these drivers installed before.  I formatted my HD and reinstalled dapper.  Now I can't get them installed for some reason.
[07:35] <cybe> misha: Yeah ;P
[07:36] <boink> Spec: mplayer
[07:36] <misha> iter: Yeah, of course - I saw the typo. But it's no use :(
[07:36] <Spec> mplayer can convert video?
[07:36] <boink> yes
[07:36] <teasum> iter, thanks for the help... I think I'll head home and start burning files...
[07:36] <ubuntu__> god save ubuntu :)
[07:36] <Spec> oi, didn't know that, how?
[07:36] <Xyphosura> leone: in the menu system > administration > networking, thats the normal way to do, but i assume you already did that?
[07:37] <boink> it's in the mplayer/mencoder documentation
[07:37] <Leone> yes Xyphosura
[07:37] <Leone> now i am at live cd.
[07:37] <boink> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide <= one example
[07:37] <iter> misha: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27823.html
[07:37] <brutopia> how can I increase kde's priority in kubuntu
[07:37] <miranda82> jrib, it's in it..
[07:37] <Xyphosura> leone: you know the command "ifup", it opens a connection for one session
[07:38] <alex_> hi i have a question i am running gnome and wanted to try openbox with it so i ran the comman openbox --replace the only problem is when i right click i dont get the openbox menu
[07:38] <jrib> miranda82: and not commented?
[07:38] <miranda82> nope
[07:38] <brutopia> can I insert nice -3 somewhere
[07:38] <alex_> hi i have a question i am running gnome and wanted to try openbox with it so i ran the comman openbox --replace the only problem is when i right click i dont get the openbox menu
[07:38] <miranda82> if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] ; then
[07:38] <miranda82>     . /etc/bash_completion
[07:38] <miranda82> fi
[07:38] <Xyphosura> leone: sorry thats for wifi
[07:38] <jrib> miranda82: diff /root/.bashrc ~/.bashrc    see the differences
[07:38] <miranda82> oh
[07:38] <miranda82> jrib, good idea
[07:39] <Leone> ok
[07:39] <mmedland> alex_: I think if you log out you can start a new session using openbox
[07:39] <Leone> hey Xyphosura what can i do?
[07:39] <miranda82> jrib, in root it's commented, lol
[07:39] <jrib> miranda82: heh, it's probably unrelated
[07:39] <roberts> How can I pause an apt-get dist-upgrade to Edgy temporarily for like 5 minutes while I move my machine and reconnect to the Internet?
[07:39] <mmedland> alex_: you can change it using the session menu on the login screen
[07:40] <iter> roberts: ctrl-Z ?
[07:40] <iter> roberts: not sure that will work really
[07:40] <kitche> mmedland: he's using gnome but using openbox as it's window manager
[07:40] <alex_> thank you kitche
[07:40] <mmedland> kitche: oops, sorry. I mis-understood, mybad
[07:40] <roberts> iter: Seemed to pause it... how do I start it up again?
[07:40] <Init5> hi everyone, -I'm just upgrading from Dapper to Edgy, but the download speed is only 14 k/s..  -is there something wrong?   :/
[07:40] <alex_> exactly i have replaced metacity with openbox but when i right click i dont get the openbox menu
[07:40] <miranda82> jrib, should i look for something for? in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile?
[07:41] <miranda82> jrib, but for the first arg, i get autocompletition..
[07:41] <iter> roberts: fg
[07:41] <boink> Init5: maybe the bandwidth on that server is overloaded
[07:41] <Xyphosura> leone: you can try ifup "name of your networkthingy" (you can see the name of your lan thing in the network menu) it think it must work
[07:41] <roberts> iter: Thanks!
[07:41] <boink> there's no rush to update, is there?
[07:41] <Init5> bionoid: how can I choose another server?
[07:41] <kitche> alex_: did you save your session when you logged out?
[07:42] <boink> Init5: sure
[07:42] <alex_> no i havent
[07:42] <Leone> Xyphosura,  i am in my live cd
[07:42] <Leone> how can i see it
[07:42] <boink> but it's best to use the server closest to you
[07:42] <Init5> boink: how can I choose another server?
[07:42] <alex_> ill try let you know when i come back
[07:42] <boink> that's in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:42] <iwkse> hi all. Anybody got problems installing ati proprietary drivers with ati 9250 gcard? I get an error like "fglrx(0)chip 0x5960 not recognized"..any help?
[07:42] <Init5> but I just did the auto command
[07:42] <boink> so?
[07:42] <miranda82> does anyone here why i can't get second argument autocompletition, but i can with root?
[07:43] <Xyphosura> leone: system> administartion >networking someting like eth0 it must be
[07:43] <misha> iter: thx for the link, that's my problem in a nutshell. But, it doesn't work in my fstab. Confusing.
[07:43] <boink> you need to edit the sources.list
[07:43] <boink> man sources.list
[07:43] <Init5> hmm
[07:43] <yrlnry_> Is there a way to mount an ISO CD image file without actually burning it to a CD?
[07:43] <DigitalNinja> exit
[07:43] <Init5> ok, thanks anyway
[07:44] <kitche> yrlnry_: mount -o loop <iso> <mount point>
[07:44] <St_MPA3b> What's better partitions map to install Ubuntu? (i have WIn in primary NTFS and a 120 Gb hd)
[07:44] <yrlnry_> Thanks.
[07:44] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: make /home its own partition
[07:44] <misha> yrinry: Good article: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5639
[07:44] <DigitalNinja> how do I get glxgears to show the FPS?
[07:45] <St_MPA3b> dougsko:  is it all? mb /var also?
[07:45] <yrlnry_> misha: Thanks very much.
[07:45] <miranda82> does anyone here why i can't get second argument autocompletition, but i can with root?
[07:45] <wastrel> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[07:45] <St_MPA3b> dougsko:  but if it'll be extendet partition. It'll be slower?
[07:45] <Zaggynl> Howto add a whole subnet to Firestarter?
[07:45] <roberts> wastrel: Haha
[07:46] <KalEl> does anyone know anything about networking over powerlines?
[07:46] <wastrel> i'm not joking
[07:46] <kitche> KalEl: a little bit
[07:46] <boink> KalEl: it's a nice idea
[07:46] <KalEl> are there anything that could get in the way of it not working properly
[07:46] <KalEl> i have a very old house
[07:47] <KalEl> with wireing probably well over 40 years ol
[07:47] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: hold on, let me find this article for you
[07:47] <KalEl> old*
[07:47] <boink> depends on how it has been setup in your local area
[07:47] <KalEl> and multiple generations of wiring
[07:47] <aoupi> KalEl: bad wires I guess ( I don't know anything about net over powerlines )
[07:47] <Leone> i cant connect to internet in my ubuntu , anyone can help me please
[07:47] <boink> !ask
[07:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:47] <DigitalNinja> How do I get glxgears to show the FPS
[07:47] <roberts> wastrel Oh WOW!  You *aren't* joking!!!!
[07:47] <Xyphosura> leone: didnt ifup work? Maybe i was to vague in my response
[07:47] <roberts> DigitalNinja: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[07:47] <sidny4> !wmv
[07:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <kitche> boink: no ISP does ethernet over powerlines yet htta I know of
[07:48] <KalEl> what do you mean your internet is not working
[07:48] <Leone> Xyphosura, it didnt work :S
[07:48] <KalEl> wireless or wired?
[07:48] <Leone> wired
[07:48] <boink> naw .. maybe someday
[07:48] <KalEl> do you have the appropriate drivers
[07:48] <alex_> kitche i now have openbox saved as part of my session and the menu still does not come up when i right click
[07:48] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: ty
[07:48] <Leone> i think so , i update breezy to dapper and now i cant connect
[07:48] <boink> Vorizon has been offering somewhat powerline stuff with massive bandwidth
[07:48] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: ok, well i couldnt find it again. but basically, if you have /home on its own partition, you can reinstall the whole OS, and not lose any of your personal files
[07:48] <KalEl> and if so... do you have an IP address
[07:48] <alex_> could that be because i have no menu.xml file thing for openbox as of yet
[07:48] <Leone> i think i have it
[07:48] <wastrel> roberts:  -printfps works too but the other one is funner
[07:48] <Leone> how can i see
[07:48] <kitche> KalEl: the power lines will get in the way maybe for being so old
[07:49] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: /var is nice to give its own partition if this is going to be some kind of server with a bunch of log files
[07:49] <DigitalNinja> roberts: Thanks
[07:49] <roberts> wastrel: Yeah, that's arguably one of the better command line switches... ever
[07:49] <kitche> alex_: yeah you have to copy over openbox's defaults to your home directory in .openbox/config I believe
[07:49] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: y, i understand. But there are also cinfigs on /var... I need to save em too. Extended partitions arent slower then primary?
[07:50] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: configs*
[07:50] <KalEl> are all the AC outlets in the house normally wired together
[07:50] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: yeah i think so, but i cant imagine by much
[07:51] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: if youre using something like gparted to do this, i think all the parittions you make will be "primary" ones
[07:51] <kitche> KalEl: no they aren't wired together, but it goes though the circuit breaker to go to the rest of the house
[07:51] <miranda82> does anyone here why i can't get second argument autocompletition, but i can with root?
[07:51] <KalEl> ah
[07:51] <KalEl> i see
[07:51] <KalEl> well i suppose i could buy a set and see if it works
[07:51] <dougsko> miranda82: maybe something rooted in safety, or it could be a bash quirk
[07:51] <KalEl> return it if it doesn't
[07:52] <dougsko> miranda82: give ksh a try
[07:52] <kitche> KalEl: right now it's mostly used for wireless APs
[07:52] <Xyphosura> Leone: maybe you can edit /etc/network/interfaces, if you know how to do it, unfortunatley i cant help you further than this
[07:52] <miranda82> dougsko, sorry? ksh?
[07:52] <Shaezsche> im following directions at this website to get my soundcard to work but i cannot find my modules.conf http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=63089
[07:52] <cybe> Hmm... Can't use gaim-otr (Off-The-Record) or gaim-encryption since i'm using Gaim 2.x.... Does anyone know how i can eventually upgrade my reps' to get newer/beta versions?
[07:53] <KalEl> kitche: yea that's what i was thinking of using it for
[07:53] <Shaezsche> i need to somehow add options snd_hda_intel model=3stack
[07:53] <KalEl> to expand my network
[07:53] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: so... look at that tree: 1) Win partition (NTFS, Primary) 2) root (reiserfs, primary) 3) swap (primary) 4) Extended (extended with /home and /var on it, both are reiser)
[07:53] <dougsko> miranda82: its a different shell, instead of bash. it stands for korn shell
[07:53] <cybe> On the OTR page, there's no Ubuntu or Debian package...
[07:53] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: it's ok?
[07:53] <miranda82> dougsko, but... why can i do it with root, and not as a normal user?
[07:54] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: why are /home and /var extended? and no, you have to be root to partition your drives
[07:54] <Shaezsche>  HDA Intel at 0xfebf8000 irq 82
[07:55] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: i mean 2 local discs on that extended partition- /var and /home
[07:55] <jimmypw> Hi, Juat a quick question can somone help me complete this command to download the latest php (stable) module - sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod*****
[07:55] <Xyphosura>   I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver.
[07:55] <miranda82> dougsko, i solved it... i had to comment the completition lines in ~/.bashrc
[07:56] <dougsko> miranda82: nice!
[07:56] <St_MPA3b> dougsko: what's better - 3 primary + 1 extended, 3+1, or 2+2?
[07:57] <dougsko> St_MPA3b: im not sure. id say do some googling, and dont be afraid to just go for it. you might mess things up once or twice, but youll learn a lot
[07:57] <poprofits> what software should i use to open pdf files on ubuntu ?
[07:57] <boink> you mean that? => php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)
[07:57] <dougsko> poprofits: evince or xpdf
[07:57] <poprofits> thanks
[07:58] <poprofits> does xpdf works in gnome ?
[07:58] <boink> sure
[07:58] <mjr> of course
[07:58] <mjr> evince is usually better, though
[07:58] <dougsko> poprofits: gnome and knde do not limit you in what apps you can use
[07:58] <dougsko> *kde
[07:58] <boink> even if gnome crashes you box? :)
[07:59] <jimmypw> lol thanks boink i was trying the full release numbers. I didnt think of just php5 :s
[07:59] <dougsko> i wouldnt know, i use flux :P
[07:59] <Zaggynl> I need some help with Firestarter here, I would like to add our subnet to firestarter, but it won't work :<
[07:59] <Zaggynl> I tried 192.168.2.0/255
[07:59] <poprofits> and.. is there some way to make my multimedia keybord work in ubuntu .. like PLAY, STOP buttons ?
[07:59] <boink> jimmpw: man apt-cache is a good reference
[07:59] <dougsko> Zaggynl: 192.168.1.0/24
[07:59] <dougsko> thats what you want ^^^
[07:59] <Zaggynl> dougsko, our subnet is 192.168.2.x
[07:59] <wastrel> Zaggynl:  192.168.2/24
[07:59] <dougsko> Zaggynl: ok....192.168.2.0/24
[07:59] <wastrel> or some such
[07:59] <Zaggynl> not /255?
[07:59] <dougsko> no
[07:59] <wastrel> no
[08:00] <wastrel> 255.255.255.0 is the subnet mask for that network
[08:00] <jimmypw> boink: thanks again, ill have a look
[08:00] <wastrel> but the cidr notation is  /24
[08:00] <Zaggynl> ah like that
[08:00] <Zaggynl> sweet, it works, cheers
[08:00] <amonkey> does anyone know if the official firefox 2.0 is gonna make it into edgy?  being all not out yet and what not.
[08:00] <boink> amonkey: no idea
[08:00] <boink> it would be nice if they put it into both edgy and dapper
[08:00] <iter> boink: I seem to be running it now
[08:00] <kitche> amonkey: don't know but there is 3rd party build of firefox 2.0
[08:00] <iter> just noticed that today
[08:01] <wastrel> Mozilla Firefox 2.0, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2006 mozilla.org
[08:01] <wastrel> sez my edgy
[08:01] <amonkey> boink, i'm sure it will be in the updates but it would be nice to have it in the iso proper
[08:01] <jimmypw> There was a link on slashdot for an official release of firefox v2 that was leaked
[08:01] <Xyphosura> I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. Any help?
[08:02] <devilz> hi, i updated dist from apt-get and i installed new kernel image but when i load it i get crc error, it says it cannot mount root fs....
[08:02] <devilz> any idea?
[08:03] <kitche> jimmypw: yeha I have that link
[08:03] <boink> iter: nice one :)
[08:03] <venkatachar> can anyone tell me how to install LAME?
[08:03] <boink> sure ... sudo apt-get install lame
[08:03] <kitche> !lame
[08:03] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:04] <boink> lame - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[08:06] <Xyphosura> : I have the opensource "radeon" drivers and everytime i start a 3d app or execute glxgears i get this error message: "drmCommandWrite: -22 drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22 (exiting)". I used this guide to activate the drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. Any help?
[08:07] <sidny4> !bin
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <liwi> hi. how my dog will update 6.06 to 6.10 in terminal?
[08:09] <phaedrus44> dog?
[08:10] <jrib> liwi: your dog uses linux? :P
[08:10] <jrib> ubotu: tell liwi about upgrade
[08:11] <Leone> anyone can help me please! i cant connect to internet in my ubuntu!
[08:11] <eXistenZ> Is there an on-click interface for dict?
[08:11] <sc0tt> hey folks.
[08:12] <sc0tt> is it possible to install ubuntu without booting into the live cd?
[08:12] <Shaezsche> anyone here use the drum looper Hydrogen?
[08:12] <jimmypw> type "install" in to the boot options i think
[08:13] <compudaze> sc0tt: not with the live cd
[08:13] <compudaze> get the alt cd
[08:13] <compudaze> or the server cd
[08:13] <sc0tt> alright
[08:14] <compudaze> try the 'install' boot thing 1st to be sure ;p
[08:14] <sc0tt> if i do a server install
[08:14] <sc0tt> its just a case of
[08:14] <jimmypw> you may need to press one of th f keys to get the prompt up
[08:14] <maxb> Does anyone use apt-proxy? In dapper at least, it seems badly broken.
[08:14] <sc0tt> running apt-get
[08:14] <sc0tt> to install a desktop
[08:14] <sc0tt> yep?
[08:15] <maxflax> Is there a guide for installing the new Nvidia drivers.. I presume that the one on apt. isn't uptodate?
[08:15] <cendant> download binary from NVidia
[08:15] <jtr> hi
[08:16] <freakyfrag> anybody can tell me, what "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko):Invalid argument" means?
[08:16] <jimmypw> it may not be best practce to install server on to a desktop but - yes you can use apt-get to install a desktop the ong way around
[08:16] <cendant> then use http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page
[08:16] <jimmypw> *long
[08:16] <lfmiller> any one know how to upgrade 5.04 to 6.06 - I have the CD, but tring to install on an imac Ubuntu switches to too high a video resolution and I can't install was hopiing to just upgrade, but haven't been able to do that either.
[08:16] <sc0tt> i was thinking that too :>
[08:16] <jtr> no
[08:16] <jtr> no
[08:16] <MasseR> lfmiller: In /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <jtr> hi
[08:16] <jtr> hi
[08:16] <jtr> hi
[08:16] <MasseR> Change all the breezy texts to dapper
[08:17] <jtr> yes sir
[08:17] <chijin> hi! i have an issue i can't seem to find an answer to - i'm running edgy and i tried hibernating my machine but it won't resume and hangs on boot. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283583
[08:17] <Jahman> hi
[08:17] <jtr> i can buggy
[08:17] <jtr> hi
[08:17] <lfmiller> Ok, and then I should beable to upgrade?
[08:18] <gmoney> hey all im thinking of trying ubuntu to start learning linux i was curios how well would it support me playing pc games?
[08:18] <chijin> does anyone have any ideas?
[08:18] <maxflax> cendant, ok.. kinda did a install yesterday of the binaries.. made my X not able to start,, so I guess just running the installer wont work
[08:18] <jtr> yes yes
[08:18] <jbroome> lfmiller: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:18] <sidny4> gmoney, to play pc games in linux your best bet is to use cedega
[08:18] <jimmypw> gmoney: there is no native support for windows games
[08:18] <jtr> au revoir
[08:18] <gmoney> i know there no native support
[08:18] <gmoney> but have any of you done it?
[08:18] <sidny4> it basically emulates a windows environment allowing you to play the game
[08:18] <gmoney> successfully
[08:19] <kjm> gmoney - yes.  Using cedega and wine I have played many windows games.
[08:19] <jtr> ca c'est trop vite pour moi
[08:19] <sidny4> I have yes, the game quality is not quite as good as it would be in windows
[08:19] <jimmypw> cedega is probably your best bet but it can be choppy
[08:19] <kitche> gmoney: dpeneds on the game
[08:19] <jtr> Au revoir
[08:19] <jbroome> jtr: you're annoying in any language
[08:19] <gmoney> chopy in what sense
[08:19] <sidny4> laggy
[08:19] <jimmypw> your fps will suffer
[08:19] <sidny4> loss of frames
[08:19] <jtr> what
[08:19] <gmoney> like video laggy
[08:20] <lfmiller> OK, sounds good, will I still have issues with the resolution being set too high for the imac?
[08:20] <truz_`24> when does firefox2.0 become the default browser in ubuntu?
[08:20] <jtr> what jbroome
[08:20] <gmoney> the framerate loss thats not do to hardware right?
[08:20] <sidny4> best bet, have a windows install on a separate partition, and when you want to play games, reboot into windows
[08:20] <chijin> any help? or is reintalling my only option :O
[08:20] <jtr> i havn't understand you
[08:20] <sidny4> right
[08:20] <gmoney> yea see i play games all the time
[08:21] <kitche> gmoney: there is another project that might help but it doesn't have a release yet
[08:21] <gmoney> so i need to find a way to keep my self in nix to learn when im done gaming with out to reboot or ill just be lazy
[08:21] <gmoney> kitche: which is that?
[08:21] <jtr> jbroome: what's going on??
[08:21] <sidny4> get another computer :D
[08:21] <kitche> gmoney: forgot the name of it myself
[08:21] <gmoney> i have 3 i want it on this one
[08:21] <jimmypw> gmoney: have you consdered a hardware emulator e.g. vmware
[08:22] <gmoney> yea ive tryed it again theres 2 much effort involved
[08:22] <sidny4> I don't vmware works very well with gaming
[08:22] <kjm> jimmypw - in my experience, playing a game through cedega or wine is more efficient than playing it through a full emulated environment...less overhead (if you get it working)
[08:22] <EmxBA> hi
[08:22] <EmxBA> for some reason, ssh server on my machine doesn't work
[08:22] <jimmypw> o mean until he grasps the basics of linux
[08:22] <EmxBA> firewall is ok
[08:22] <EmxBA> do i need some gpg keys or what?
[08:22] <kjm> vmware isn't great for accelerated graphics.
[08:23] <sidny4> I believe it mostly supports 2d graphics too
[08:23] <kjm> ^^ what he said.
[08:23] <gmoney> and i play like wow or battlefiled2
[08:23] <jtr> suck my dick
[08:23] <gmoney> and soon doubleagent
[08:23] <EmxBA> anyone?
[08:23] <pike_> EmxBA: can you ssh 127.0.0.1 ?
[08:23] <kitche> EmxBA: no you have to edit /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny sicne it's set up by default to deny all hosts
[08:23] <kjm> no thanks jtr
[08:23] <EmxBA> yap
[08:23] <sidny4> both of them have been said to work fine in cedega
[08:23] <EmxBA> oh ok
[08:23] <EmxBA> thanks kitche
[08:23] <EmxBA> @kick jtr
[08:23] <sidny4> I haven't tested battlefield2 yet (soon, very soon)
[08:23] <kjm> is there an op in hereto boot jtc?
[08:23] <kitche> !ops
[08:23] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:23] <EmxBA> kick jtr plese.
[08:23] <dcordes> kjm: latest vmware workstation has experimental directx support
[08:23] <gmoney> ok u guys have been very helpufly thanks for the intel
[08:24] <sidny4> o problem gmoney
[08:24] <jtr> jbroome
[08:24] <jimmypw> EmxBA: try the command - sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart - does it generate an error message
[08:24] <gmoney> i gotta run ill be back later with more questions :)
[08:24] <St_MPA3b> t_t
[08:24] <jtr> jbroome
[08:24] <kjm> dcordes - heh, i didn't know that.  Would be cool if it got up and going.  Probably still better to use cedega or something for gaming though (so you're not emulating the whole environment).
[08:24] <EmxBA> it's ok, jimmypw
[08:24] <Mimo_Porto> olka
[08:24] <Mimo_Porto> ola
[08:25] <jimmypw> so no errors?
[08:25] <EmxBA> but when i ssh to somewhere else and from there try to ssh to my machine, it doesn't work - connection times out
[08:25] <dcordes> kjm: yea i tried to test it but didn't work out. and i think even if it worked it still would suck
[08:25] <B-Minus> god damned im getting crazy to make this ln -s
[08:25] <B-Minus> what is wrong with this : tommy@tommy-laptop:~/.irssi/scripts$ ln -s ./adv_windowlist.pl ./autorun/adv_windowlist.pl
[08:25] <B-Minus> NOTHING
[08:25] <chijin> is there any way to fix the root partition which the edgy hibernation broke?
[08:25] <MasseR> EmxBA: Nat troubles?
[08:25] <jimmypw> EmxBA are u sure the port is open type netstat -a
[08:25] <B-Minus> and it still makes a broken link
[08:25] <maxflax> How Do I Install The New Nvidia Binaries That I've Downloaded From The Nvidia.com site.. Pointing me to a page that show me how to do a apt-get is pretty much useless.
[08:26] <EmxBA> it's not open, jimmypw
[08:26] <kjm> maxflax - you have your kernel headers?
[08:26] <EmxBA> MasseR: NAT?
[08:26] <sidny4> maxflax, there should have been install instructions on the nvidia site
[08:26] <thor> I don't think you can use ~ with ln...try using the whole path
[08:26] <MasseR> maxflax: Last time I installed them it was simply "chmod +x nvidiadriver.run ; ./nvidiadriver.run"
[08:26] <MasseR> EmxBA: Uhm, I'll let someone else explain it to you ^^'
[08:26] <Leone> please anyone can help me , i cant connect to my internet in ubntu
[08:26] <EmxBA> can anyone try to ssh to 89.146.132.156?
[08:26] <maxflax> sidney4, yeah. petty much it said run the install. I did.. and it made my dist crap
[08:26] <EmxBA> MasseR: ?
[08:27] <MasseR> EmxBA: No direct connection to your computer but through nat
[08:27] <MasseR> Network address translation
[08:27] <kjm> maxflax - please expand what you mean by "made your dist crap".
[08:27] <MasseR> maxflax: And did you follow the readme after that
[08:27] <EmxBA> yap, that's what i thought - it's configurable on my DSL's modem settings in browser
[08:27] <MasseR> Or was it install
[08:27] <KalEl> anyone use Priceline for Tickets?
[08:27] <KalEl> airline tickets
[08:27] <MasseR> maxflax: You have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf after that
[08:27] <jimmypw> EmxBA: is it on your home network i.e. are ou directly connected, not going through a firewall?
[08:27] <maxflax> kjm, unable to load gdm and X
[08:28] <concept10> KalEl, used a couple of years ago
[08:28] <EmxBA> i'm directly connected, jimmypw
[08:28] <MasseR> maxflax: Did you manually edit xorg.conf
[08:28] <MasseR> What error does it give
[08:28] <KalEl> did you choose your own price?
[08:28] <kjm> maxflax - did you tell xorg.conf to use the "nvidia" driver instead of the "nv" driver?
[08:28] <maxflax> MasseR, no. there was a Nvidia configurator for the X
[08:29] <concept10> KalEl, yep, and flew to DC on a whim, got drunk and came back home
[08:29] <MasseR> maxflax: o.O not in my time :P
[08:29] <Mimo_Porto> alguem pode informar como posso entrar no gay porto
[08:29] <kjm> maxflax - please post your xorg.conf
[08:29] <MasseR> But nevertheless I recommend reading the install and readme
[08:29] <maxflax> kjm, yes..already had the old ones that I got from the apt-get
[08:29] <MasseR> And configure xorg.conf accordingly
[08:29] <dnite> i'm having trouble getting evdev to work with edgy? Whenever I change the mouse device in xorg.conf to the one using evdev, i get a 'unable to load security policy /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy' and x crashes.. any ideas why this would happen? I can cat /dev/input/event9 and move the mouse to get garbled text so i know the event is there .. i'm just stumped...
[08:29] <kjm> maxflax - ok.
[08:29] <KalEl> LOL
[08:29] <jrib> maxflax: search the wiki for manual nvidia install
[08:29] <St_MPA3b> What for is XFS?
[08:29] <pike_> maxflax: if you use nvidia installer youll have to redo each time you let ubuntu upgrade the kernel
[08:30] <maxflax> kjm, now I havent installed them.. im running NV at the moment..thought I'd just ask before I redo it..
[08:30] <EmxBA> anything related to ssh?
[08:30] <EmxBA> !ssh
[08:30] <kjm> Did you build it with the right kernel sources?  It'll crap up if your downloaded kernel headers do not match the kernel you have installed.
[08:30] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:30] <Mimo_Porto> procuro homem
[08:30] <concept10> KalEl, I had much fun.  I think the price was less than 200.  I think this was pre sep11
[08:30] <EmxBA> eh thanks ;)
[08:30] <MasseR> St_MPA3b: A filesystem <.<. I got the impression from wikipedia that it's the worst (from ext3/2 reiserfs and xfs)
[08:30] <jimmypw> EmxBA: Has it ever worked and are you using OpenSSH server?
[08:30] <jbroome> EmxBA: it's not making the connection
[08:30] <maxflax> pike_, well Im planning using a own kernel.. so thats not a problem
[08:30] <EmxBA> jimmypw: it has worked few weeks ago...
[08:31] <MasseR> maxflax: And then copy the error if it produces one
[08:31] <Leone> please i need help , my internet dont work in myubuntu :S
[08:31] <kitche> St_MPA3b, MasseR: it's mostly for servers that have UPS backups and generator backups
[08:31] <EmxBA> jbroome: a
[08:31] <sleon> hi guys, i installed only basesystem. how to upgrade to the complete desktop system ?
[08:31] <St_MPA3b> MasseR y, i know)) what is better usage for it? I mean little files, large files, dynamic changes...?
[08:31] <jrib> sleon: install ubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <pike_> St_MPA3b: nice for some things but specialized
[08:31] <concept10> I dont understand why I absolutely hate the popup bubbles in Windows XP but in Ubuntu they are a delight to see
[08:31] <kjm> Leone : What "doesn't work".  Can you ping an ip address, but not resolve dns?  No signal at all?  please be more informative.
[08:31] <kitche> St_MPA3b: it's for large files over 4 Gigs
[08:31] <MasseR> St_MPA3b: Well it supports 8 exbibytes <.<
[08:32] <MasseR> Which was the highest in the 4
[08:32] <aldin> >I dont understand why I absolutely hate the popup bubbles in Windows XP but in Ubuntu they are a delight to see lol u are right!
[08:32] <St_MPA3b> so i dont need it :D
[08:32] <Leone> kjm sorry i am a newbi , now i am in my live cd, when i enter in my ubuntu sesion i cant browse in any web
[08:32] <maxflax> kjm, yes.. I had the right kernel headers.. Have them in /usr/src
[08:32] <EmxBA> aldin: ah :)
[08:32] <sidny4> concept10, that's because the ubuntu bubbles aren't telling you your system is messed up
[08:32] <aldin> > concept10, that's because the ubuntu bubbles aren't telling you your system is messed up< lol
[08:32] <kjm> maxflax - cool.  Then, off the top of my head I don't know.  Have you looked at the x crash logs to see what the issue is?
[08:32] <KalEl> Concept10: i am thinking of going to amsterdam, and they have prices around $200 round trip
[08:32] <concept10> I think its also because the notification bubbles in windows are out of control.
[08:33] <KalEl> it's freaking crazy
[08:33] <aldin> say emxba
[08:33] <KalEl> even if i leave in two days
[08:33] <sleon> jrib: thnks
[08:33] <St_MPA3b> emcba
[08:33] <KalEl> they are about that price
[08:33] <St_MPA3b> emxba
[08:33] <jimmypw> EmxBA: 1 more question can u ping the machine
[08:33] <kaur> could someone have a look at my hibernate.conf (edgy) and then tell me why my computer is unable to resume from suspend?
[08:33] <KalEl> CRAZY
[08:33] <St_MPA3b> >_<
[08:33] <EmxBA> try to ssh now, aldin
[08:33] <sidny4> windows xp's build in spyware and pop-ups
[08:33] <EmxBA> jimmypw: i CAN ping my machine, i have ftp and http server there too, but ssh doesn't work
[08:33] <KalEl> i can fly to Orlando for about $50
[08:33] <kjm> Leone : try pinging a web server.  To do this - open a terminal and type......ping 130.63.27.18
[08:33] <aldin> si emx, got ssh-ed on my machine
[08:33] <maxflax> kjm, yeah.  it says that the drivers of the X don't match the current kernel of the nvidia or something
[08:33] <kaur> could someone have a look at my hibernate.conf (edgy) and then tell me why my computer is unable to resume from suspend?
[08:33] <Leone> hey kjm but now i am in live cd
[08:34] <concept10> KalEl, the only catch is that you do not get to pick the seat or the departure time so you have to be flexible
[08:34] <thegve> Does anyone know how I can customize the ubuntu taskbar? I (or my boss actually), only want to have Icons.
[08:34] <Leone> i must mount my hda1?
[08:34] <Leone> kjm?
[08:34] <KalEl> oooo big deal
[08:34] <jbroome> EmxBA: ftp and http are the only ports open to the outside world on your machine
[08:34] <KalEl> what do i care
[08:34] <KalEl> at that price
[08:34] <concept10> KalEl, its a big deal if you cant get off of work
[08:34] <MasseR> EmxBA: How about checking logs for attempted connections?
[08:34] <kjm> Leone - well.  It is most likely a DNS problem.  Make sure that you are receiving an IP address from your ISP and a DNS server.
[08:34] <MasseR> (If it logs such a things)
[08:34] <KalEl> depart on a day you are free all day
[08:34] <concept10> KalEl, you will then proceed to loose money :)
[08:34] <pike_> EmxBA: port forwarding is setup on router? try forwarding a different port and adding that to sshd_config like on line Port blah  next line Port blah2
[08:34] <KalEl> it's like planning for a cable fguy
[08:34] <maxflax> kjm, im gonna retry installing the drivers...
[08:35] <EmxBA> MasseR: in where?
[08:35] <MasseR>  /var/log/
[08:35] <EmxBA> pike_: to which file?
[08:35] <Leone> kjm,  how can i do it?
[08:35] <concept10> KalEl, planning for DSL is worse
[08:35] <kjm> maxflax - cool - sorry, I'm all outta ideas.
[08:35] <Leone> sorry kjm i am newbie
[08:35] <spooky20> algm portugues aki preciso de ajuda
[08:35] <KalEl> if i know i am free all day then it doesn't matter
[08:35] <pike_> EmxBA: gksudo /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:35] <KalEl> right?
[08:35] <pike_> EmxBA: er sudo gedit
[08:35] <EmxBA> pike_: rather vi
[08:35] <KalEl> i'm sure my ticket has the time on it
[08:35] <kjm> Leone - How do you connect to the internet (Cable modem/through router/modem)?
[08:35] <KalEl> what happens if you book for multiple flights
[08:35] <KalEl> ?
[08:36] <segfault_> KalEl, plz take this to offtopic channel
[08:36] <Leone> trough router bye a cable
[08:36] <jimmypw> EmxBA: im no expert at SSH but if your sure nothing has changed try uninstalling using apt-get purge openssh then reinstall. I know that there are minimal configuration files that should be backed up before you do this
[08:36] <spooky20> any portuguese here
[08:36] <KalEl> bleh
[08:36] <KalEl> my bad
[08:36] <spooky20> ????
[08:36] <KalEl> stopping talking now
[08:36] <spooky20> i need help
[08:36] <pike_> EmxBA: then sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart; then if you netstat -a | grep tcp both ports should be listening
[08:36] <maxflax> if I install the nvidia. and they don't work.. what commando do I type for getting the NV upagain?
[08:37] <EmxBA> there is port 23444 ;)
[08:37] <kjm> maxflax - just change the line Driver "nvidia" back to "nv" and restart x.
[08:37] <jimmypw> EmxBA: obviously try other solutions before the last suggestion
[08:37] <maxflax> kjm, line driver.. where do I change that?
[08:37] <do_kev> if I have installed samba via add/remove, is it automatically running, or do I have to start it?  I don't see it anywhere in my apps.
[08:38] <maxflax> kjm, which file-+
[08:38] <thor> do_kev: it is running...install swat to manage it
[08:38] <kjm> maxflax - in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[08:38] <do_kev> Thanks Thor!
[08:38] <EmxBA> it doesn't work again jimmypw
[08:38] <jimmypw> you've reinstalled already?
[08:39] <XiXaQ> how can I remote a users ability to shutdown the system? I only want him to be able to log out.
[08:39] <EmxBA> yap
[08:39] <kitche> XiXaQ: make sure that the users don't have sudo powers
[08:39] <devilz> does anyone know how to update kernel?
[08:39] <maxflax> kjm, ok! just replace Nvidia with nv.. then i presume?
[08:39] <kjm> XiXaQ - only people in the sudoers group would be able to do that.
[08:39] <XiXaQ> kitche, they don't.
[08:39] <kjm> maxflax - precisely
[08:40] <jimmypw> im thinking that it's a iptable or similar firewall issue. this is where my knowledge ends im afraid
[08:40] <XiXaQ> kjm, no.. They're able to hibernate the system.
[08:40] <kjm> maxflax - assuming that X worked before the install, it should work after.
[08:40] <kjm> XiXaQ - hibernate != shutdown.
[08:40] <pike_> EmxBA: try sudo iptables -L you should have three things listed input output and forward all set to accept
[08:40] <XiXaQ> kjm, well, it is. It powers down the computer, so it shuts down the system.
[08:40] <MasseR> devilz: devilz sudo make-kpkg --initrd --revision=1 --append-to-version=mykernel kernel_image modules_image kernel_headers
[08:40] <MasseR> I think
[08:41] <kjm> XiXaQ - hibernate is not the same as shutdown.  So, that wasn't your first question.  I don't know enough about hibernation to help you.
[08:41] <devilz> MasseR, i dont have make-kpkg
[08:41] <thegve> does anyone know how I can customize the taskbar to only show icons, just asked it before, but no-one responded, and I expect this is possible
[08:42] <MasseR> devilz: apt-get install binutils
[08:42] <EmxBA> pike_: see pm
[08:42] <maxflax> kjm, all that nvidia-glx-config enable do is adding it self to the xorg.conf ?
[08:42] <MasseR> devilz: No wait
[08:42] <XiXaQ> kjm, it's the same menu anyway. Can't I remove it in any way?
[08:42] <MasseR> build-essential libncurses5-dev kernel-package
[08:42] <MasseR> devilz:
[08:42] <jimmypw> XiXaQ: I may be wrong and totally break your system but cant you remove the execute permission for all on the hibernate app
[08:42] <torch> argh what the heck
[08:43] <MasseR> devilz: I'm not 100% sure that works
[08:43] <torch> >:(
[08:43] <MasseR> At least I had trouble with my wlan after that :P
[08:43] <XiXaQ> jimmypw, are there different programs for hibernate, restart, switch user, etc?
[08:43] <MasseR> But that could be .config error
[08:43] <MasseR> Or modules error
[08:43] <hrach> please is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH working in ubuntu?
[08:43] <torchie> putting me through all that just to get into the freebsd channel
[08:43] <devilz> MasseR, well i updated my kernel, but when i tried to load it i get error (cannot mount root fs) something like that...
[08:43] <darnell_> is there a streets and tips for linux?
[08:44] <dnite> i'm having trouble getting evdev to work with edgy? Whenever I change the mouse device in xorg.conf to the one using evdev, i get a 'unable to load security policy /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy' and x crashes.. any ideas why this would happen? I can cat /dev/input/event9 and move the mouse to get garbled text so i know the event is there .. i'm just stumped..
[08:44] <MasseR> devilz: I had that too once o.O
[08:44] <MasseR> But this time it seemed to work
[08:44] <MasseR> I thought it was the --initrd
[08:44] <kjm> maxflax - you could comment out the "load glx" line to if it still crashes.  But, I am not sure if that is necessary.
[08:44] <devilz> MasseR, how u fixed?
[08:44] <MasseR> devilz: I don't know
[08:44] <MasseR> I thought it was the --initrd flag
[08:44] <hrach> please does anybody is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH working in ubuntu?
[08:44] <segfault_> devilz, is this a kernel u compiled urself?
[08:45] <MasseR> hrach: Why not?
[08:45] <devilz> segfault_, nope
[08:45] <jimmypw> XiXaQ: i was just having a guess, what command do you type to hibernate?
[08:45] <thor> hrach: in what file are you placing the export command?
[08:45] <maxflax> kjm, all that nvidia-glx-config enable do is adding it self to the xorg.conf ?
[08:45] <XiXaQ> jimmypw, I have no idea. It's a button. :)
[08:45] <devilz> today i installed ubuntu on my system, and i edit my sources.list then i updated everything, but now i cannot load my new kernel
[08:45] <jimmypw> lol
[08:46] <kaur> I have the following in my hibernate log: hibernate: failed to remount the /boot partition. and my computer is not able to resume from suspend. Hints?
[08:46] <jimmypw> XiXaQ: SImple solution - Disconnect the hibernate buttons wires or disable it in the bios
[08:46] <kjm> maxflax - I haven't used that to install the nvidia drivers.....the only things that nvidia does is install the kernel module, then alter the xorg.conf file to load the nv driver......
[08:46] <hrach> i need tu run binary in directory outside of library paths
[08:46] <XiXaQ> jimmypw, it's a softwarebutton.
[08:47] <hrach> and  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to that dir is not working
[08:47] <jimmypw> XiXaQ: So the button is in a piece of software or is it on your keyboard or where?
[08:47] <XiXaQ> jimmypw, don't you use ubuntu? When you click the red "off-button", you get some choices: shutdown, reboot, hibernate, switch user, etc.. That's the menu I want to modify so that unprivilaged users may only log out.
[08:48] <jimmypw> XiXaQ: yes but i focus on the server release
[08:48] <XiXaQ> a guest user should not be able to lock out the system administrator.
[08:48] <jbroome> that's awesome
[08:48] <kitche> XiXaQ: you might have to move the users to a certain group
[08:49] <XiXaQ> kitche, that's fine.
[08:49] <jimmypw> (or remove them from a group)
[08:50] <legind> !tell legind about skype
[08:50] <MasseR> What module should I load to get my wireless card working?
[08:50] <thor> XiXaQ: have you tried /etc/shutdown.allow?
[08:50] <XiXaQ> nomin, thor, I haven't. I'll do so now. :)
[08:51] <aldin> vncviewer 85.92.248.146:0
[08:51] <kitche> MasseR: chipset?
[08:51] <kitche> aldin?
[08:51] <jbroome> aldin: asked for a pw
[08:51] <MasseR> kitche: Uhm, hold on a sec
[08:51] <mirshafie> hello. what key are the edgy repos signed with? i get gpg error on "http://se.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key"
[08:51] <sleon> MasseR: you should pray to big messia first :) then unclouth yourself, as third you need to have 1 billion dollar and buy a firm which manufactured your card.
[08:51] <XiXaQ> thor, that file doesn't exist.
[08:51] <MasseR> sleon: This works in linux
[08:51] <MasseR> I'm 100% sure of it
[08:52] <thor> XiXaQ: probably not...you need to create it. But first research the format to make sure you get it right
[08:52] <segfault_> mirshafie, try apt-key update
[08:52] <mirshafie> segfault_: that's what i did when i got the error :)
[08:52] <hazemmohamed> hello every body
[08:52] <jimmypw> hello
[08:52] <thor> XiXaQ: there is info in 'man shutdown'
[08:52] <MasseR> kitche: rt2500
[08:52] <MasseR> Afaik
[08:52] <hazemmohamed> I need an IDE for C++ that has the feature of autocompletion
[08:53] <mirshafie> segfault_: however, doing it for the third (!) time seemed to solve it. thanks :)
[08:53] <MarcN> hazemmohamed: emacs
[08:53] <segfault_> mirshafie, :) np
[08:53] <kjm> hazemmohame - anjuta and kdevelop both have that as well.
[08:53] <MasseR> For now linux doesn't recognize my ra0
[08:53] <MasseR> With a kernel not built by myself it works fine
[08:54] <kitche> MasseR: modprobe rt2500
[08:54] <kitche> have to use sudo of course
[08:54] <hazemmohamed> I want for example when I print dot after a class instance it offers its members?
[08:54] <kjm> emacs
[08:54] <hazemmohamed> is it supported?
[08:54] <MasseR> -.-
[08:55] <devilz> lol i have 3 kernel images installed now, how can i remove 2 which i dont need
[08:55] <MasseR> Module rt2500 not found
[08:55] <devilz> ?
[08:55] <MasseR> So let's compile it once again won't we
[08:55] <kitche> MasseR: you probably didn't compile your kernel right
[08:55] <kitche> devilz: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst you need super powers to do it though
[08:56] <MasseR> kitche: Apparently :)
[08:56] <MasseR> I was just hoping I wouldn't have to compile it again
[08:56] <concept10> !ntfs
[08:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:56] <kitche> MasseR: you can compile the module seperate if you want
[08:57] <devilz> kitche, what about packages?
[08:57] <MasseR> kitche: Really?
[08:57] <St_MPA3b> linking /temp in /var/temp is better than separate? (if /var = reiserfs partition)
[08:57] <kitche> devilz: you can remove the packags as well if you want
[08:57] <axel-axes> !3ddesktop
[08:57] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[08:58] <St_MPA3b>  linking /temp in /var/temp is better than separate? (/var = reiserfs partition)
[08:58] <devilz> kitche, yes but how?
[08:58] <devilz> i tried sudo apt-get remove ...
[08:59] <devilz> but i dont know package name
[08:59] <kitche> devilz: you can use synatpic to find the exact package name should be kernel-image
[09:00] <dfgas> is there a how to yet on installing firefox 2?
[09:00] <pike_> St_MPA3b: /temp might be fastest as an xfs partition dont know much about reiser
[09:01] <St_MPA3b> pike_: em... where can i read about fs's?
[09:01] <MasseR> Hmm.. Now I can't find the module -.-
[09:01] <TheGateKeeper> dfgas: think you might find something in ubuntu forums
[09:01] <dfgas> k
[09:01] <St_MPA3b> pike_:  what fs's are better for what...
[09:01] <pike_> St_MPA3b: not sure offhand the nice thing about xfs is though its more volitile it is faster to something like temp i would think is idealy suited for it
[09:02] <jimmypw> dfgas: it's probably best to wait until its officially released in the next couple of days or so
[09:02] <Tjoels> i'm still using the nvidia driver. just till edgy gets out. is that catastrophic, and should i change to 'nv' immediately?
[09:02] <pike_> St_MPA3b: since you dont care if file is lost due to power outage in temp
[09:02] <St_MPA3b> pike_: i need only speed
[09:03] <pike_> St_MPA3b: i would think xfs beats ext3 in everything but stabilty but i could be wrong.
[09:05] <jimmypw> can anyone successfully install the apache2 module "libapache2-mod-php5" im getting a load of 404 errors when i try to install it
[09:05] <padavoine> Hello all
[09:05] <jimmypw> *and it doesnt work
[09:05] <JsonT> how do I install a software packaged in a .tar.bz2-file?
[09:05] <ascon> if i plug in an external hard disk with USB, will it be automatically recognized or does it need drivers or somthing?
[09:05] <padavoine> JsonT : first unzip it
[09:05] <jimmypw> tar zxvf <filename>
[09:05] <padavoine> tar -zxvf filename
[09:05] <jimmypw> oop no thats .gz
[09:05] <MasseR> jimmypw: Actually tar xjvf
[09:05] <jimmypw> thats the one
[09:06] <padavoine> you sure jimmy N
[09:06] <padavoine> ?
[09:06] <padavoine> i think it is zxvf
[09:06] <padavoine> z for zip
[09:06] <padavoine> no ?
[09:06] <MasseR> padavoine: No
[09:06] <jimmypw> try both zxvf and xjvf im not sure
[09:06] <St_MPA3b> pike_: and what bout reiserfs?
[09:06] <MasseR> z gfor gz
[09:06] <MasseR> j for bz2
[09:06] <MasseR> Trust me
[09:06] <padavoine> ok
[09:07] <padavoine> once it's untarred
[09:07] <MasseR> And the term unzip is quite strange :P
[09:07] <padavoine> either it's precompiled binaries
[09:07] <MasseR> Unpack rather
[09:07] <MasseR> Or source
[09:07] <St_MPA3b> !3ddesctop
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesctop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <MasseR> Read readme and install docs
[09:07] <padavoine> and just run it
[09:07] <St_MPA3b> !3d_desktop
[09:07] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[09:07] <padavoine> or ./configure
[09:07] <padavoine> make
[09:07] <St_MPA3b> i instelled it, how can i use it now?
[09:07] <padavoine> and then make install
[09:07] <MasseR> St_MPA3b: You sure you didn't just unpack it?
[09:07] <MasseR> tar xjvf unpacks
[09:08] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: 3d_desktop?
[09:08] <pike_> St_MPA3b: ive run systems using it with no problems but they were other peoples installs i dont know any benchmarks or anything and never installed it myself.  i believe it is supposed to be faster for smaller files but youd have to google because i know next to nothing about ti
[09:08] <MasseR> Whilst if it's source code, you have to cd inside the directory
[09:08] <TheGateKeeper> padavoine:  tar xvjpf filename.bz2
[09:08] <St_MPA3b> MasseR installed from synaptic ^^
[09:08] <MasseR> St_MPA3b: Oh
[09:08] <MasseR> <.<
[09:08] <MasseR> I get mixed up in your nicks
[09:08] <St_MPA3b> pike_: uh... i'll search for some benhcmarks results l8er...
[09:09] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: y,
[09:09] <St_MPA3b> !3d_desktop
[09:09] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[09:09] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: you sure you don't get this confused with xgl ?
[09:10] <sleon> hi
[09:10] <sleon> are there firefox-2.0 packages already ?
[09:10] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: cause that's what i did when i heard of xgl. i looked in synaptic for 3d :-D and thought i had my xgl
[09:10] <jimmypw> not officially
[09:10] <axel-axes> yes
[09:10] <sleon> jimmypw: any unofficial repos ?
[09:10] <sleon> axel-axes: where ?
[09:10] <jimmypw> yes plenty just do a search
[09:10] <Qaldune> hi
[09:10] <axel-axes> ff 2.0  work and looks great
[09:11] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: so 3d_desktop useless fir me? :D
[09:11] <St_MPA3b> for*
[09:11] <Qaldune> i would need to get an usb wifi adaptor
[09:11] <sleon> it was such a fun to install 1,5 gig software with apt-get at speed of 4mb/s !
[09:11] <sleon> hahaha
[09:11] <padavoine> little question : I'm multibooting and just installed a fresh copy of Freespire, but told it not to write the MBR, which means the data for booting it is in its own partition. I could just mount the partition to Ubuntu and copy the boot data to the MBR, but isn't there a grub command to chainload ?
[09:11] <sleon> my network connection is GOOOD
[09:11] <Qaldune> what would you buy that is fully-supported in ubuntu?
[09:11] <sleon> Qaldune: there is ibm notebook with full linux support
[09:11] <sleon> Qaldune: it costs 2,5k
[09:11] <abhinay_> is there a way to decrypt the encrypted file (which is encypted using windows xp) ?
[09:11] <padavoine> Qaldune: the thinkpad
[09:11] <Qaldune> i'm asking for a usb wifi adaptor
[09:12] <Qaldune> not laptop
[09:12] <gce> isn't the command ldd on a binary supposed to find shared libraries even if they are symbolically linked to another library
[09:12] <padavoine> Qaldune: oh right...
[09:12] <jimmypw> Qaldune: Nothing bleeding edge
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: buy yourself prism2 card
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: senao
[09:12] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: i should install xserver-xgl to make it work?
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: it is longrange wardriver card ;)
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: illegal in europe
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: has 2 external antena jack-ports
[09:12] <Qaldune> well
[09:12] <Qaldune> i'm in europe
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: i am also in europe and i bought it
[09:12] <Qaldune> i would prefer an usb one
[09:12] <padavoine> Qaldune: I doubt anyone will check
[09:12] <sleon> Qaldune: now i hack wlans
[09:13] <axel-axes> sudo apt-get 3ddesktop is it enough ?
[09:13] <sleon> Qaldune: there are plenty of hardware listings
[09:13] <sleon> Qaldune: wait a sec, i give you some
[09:13] <Qaldune> i just want a usb wifi adaptor that works well
[09:13] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: that depends on what you want. if you want this http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/xgl/ you need to go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl and after this here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Beryl ... but only when you have hardware accerlated 3d
[09:13] <Qaldune> right now i'm using ndiswrapper and it crashes sometimes
[09:13] <Qaldune> ok sleon
[09:14] <padavoine> Does anyone have experience with using Alien to convert .rmp to .deb ? Is it reliable ?
[09:14] <pradeep> padavoine, yes it is reliable
[09:15] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: y, i have. ty
[09:15] <sleon> Qaldune: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
[09:15] <pradeep> I used it for the limewire rpm ... and it worked fine
[09:15] <sleon> Qaldune: look there
[09:15] <padavoine> pradeep: Looking to instal realplayer 10 for Linux. What's better ? alien the .rpm or use the universal installer ?
[09:15] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: beryl is 3d desktop manager?
[09:15] <JsonT> just wanna try it
[09:15] <Qaldune> ok
[09:15] <JsonT> !sex
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <JsonT> LOL
[09:15] <Qaldune> i'm gonna take a look at it sleon
[09:15] <JsonT> it worked :P
[09:15] <cypher1> do i have to do anything extra to get the brightness bar/control in AC/Battery tabs in the System->Preferences->Power Management
[09:15] <Qaldune> thx very much guys
[09:15] <MasseR> \o/
[09:15] <sleon> Qaldune: Linksys, WMP54G v4 *, WUSB54G v4 *, WUSB54GP v4 *
[09:16] <MasseR> I got my wireless connection back \o/
[09:16] <dcordes> St_MPA3b: yes i guess this is what you want
[09:16] <dcordes> as i said follow the first guide then the second
[09:16] <MasseR> Where did I make ubuntu load modules automatically?
[09:16] <sharperguy> ok... VERY strange problem
[09:16] <dcordes> ain't you the guy with this ragnarok game?
[09:16] <sharperguy> probably a hardware issues, but not neccecerily
[09:17] <St_MPA3b> dcordes: ty a lot. I'll try it tomorrow. Anyway, if my sys got pwn, i'l lreinstall it when download 6.10 :] 
[09:17] <Shaitis> goodafternoon
[09:17] <St_MPA3b> !gnome
[09:17] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:17] <pradeep> padavoine, i have the universal thingy installed... iirc it doesn't actually install anything
[09:17] <St_MPA3b> !beryl
[09:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[09:18] <jimmypw> !blackbox
[09:18] <ubotu> blackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 341 kB, installed size 948 kB
[09:18] <Samuel__> #ubuntu-it
[09:18] <sharperguy> I put a floppy disk in the drive, it crashed the computer, i reset and removed the floppy, grub didnt load, i told computer to boot from floppy last (as opposed to second), ubuntu began to boot but brought me to the ash, i loaded the live cd, both my partitions show up as unformatted!!1!
[09:18] <alfadar> Hi, I am trying ubuntu dapper as client in a NT domain but it gives the following error:
[09:18] <alfadar>   Error in domain join verification (credential setup failed): STATUS_BUFFER_OVERFLOW
[09:18] <alfadar> somebody can help?
[09:19] <jimmypw> is that an old NT domain or 2000+?
[09:19] <jimmypw> old = < win2k
[09:19] <Rock_Star> Hello.... how do i do to make my ATI Mobility Raedon X1400 run at  1940x1200.. now it only runs in vesa mode at 1024x768
[09:19] <alfadar> 2000+  jimmypw
[09:20] <jimmypw> are you using the latest version of samba
 only in vesa? you followed the ati guide in the wiki?
[09:21] <ProN00b> when firefox 2.0 gets out, will i get it as an update ?
[09:21] <dcordes> dunno you can simply download and extract it over your old folder
[09:22] <dcordes> that's what i did
[09:22] <dcordes> 2.0 rules
[09:22] <Rock_Star> dcordes,  is there a guid to make the AIT x1400 run??? its a lap top
[09:22] <ProN00b> dcordes, thats breaking the package management at its finest, you really shouldn't do that
[09:22] <Rock_Star> i read this in another forum
[09:22] <Rock_Star> What video card is in it? Dell have stopped shipping the nVidia card and replaced it with the ATI x1400 card. The nVidia card is fully supported, whereas the ATI will give you some serious grief if you want the laptop to run at native resolution.
[09:22] <dcordes> Rock_Star: for sure there is a guide. search the wiki for ati!
[09:23] <alfadar> yes jimmypw , i use this whoto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5409.html
[09:23] <jimmypw> ProN00b: probably
[09:23] <padavoine> proNoob: Firefox 2.0 isn't out, is it ?
[09:23] <dcordes> Rock_Star: it makes no difference wether you have a laptop or a desktop box ;-)
[09:23] <Shaitis> I'm trying to switch to wireless 11g but cannot find my wireles network (11b works fine), what do I need to do to make it work if its possible on badger ? am wireless noob
[09:23] <jimmypw> ProN00b: Almost definetly when its officially released
[09:24] <St_MPA3b> !AIGLX
[09:24] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[09:24] <ProN00b> jimmypw, you sure it will be in drake ? i mean 1.5 wasn't in the version before drake through it was released
[09:24] <dcordes> Rock_Star: you wanna give me your notebooks display? we can swap :-) i have native res of 1280x800 on my one
[09:24] <St_MPA3b> !aiglx
[09:24] <Rock_Star> dcordes,  it is a differnt grafik gard.. differente driver.. that is not supported
[09:24] <Rock_Star> dcordes,  ;)
[09:24] <padavoine> any way to enable .m4p playback ?
[09:25] <dcordes> Rock_Star: believe me my friend it is supported wait i give you the guide. follow it precisely and you will be ok! it is a pain in the ass to run in vesa with such a nice vga
[09:26] <jimmypw> ProN00b: im not 100% certain but in windows it has an automatic update feature
[09:26] <Wiseguy> does anyone know why i cant connect properly to my AP with the app that comes with ubuntu?>
[09:26] <dcordes> Rock_Star: here you go! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:26] <Rock_Star> dcordes,  i have intel on this lap top and i had to run a patch.. the 915reselution patch to get my 10.6" lcd to run in 1280x768
[09:26] <Rock_Star> tnx
[09:26] <Wiseguy> i type in the key correctly, and try and connect, and i cant even ping the router
[09:27] <ProN00b> jimmypw, that will also break package management ^^
[09:27] <Wiseguy> when i type iwconfig it says im connected to my ESSID
[09:27] <jimmypw> yup. tbh I dont know for sure i dont use the desktop version of ubuntu
[09:27] <Rosario> #ubuntu-it
[09:28] <dcordes> Rock_Star: you were talking about ati? you have 2 laptops?
[09:28] <jimmypw> easiest thing to do when it is released officially just check for updates
[09:28] <Buglouse> How do I change the Terminal Res when I press "CTRL + ALT + F1"?? In X i have the res set to what I want, but when I switch to Terminal view, the res goes to a smaller number.
[09:28] <Rock_Star> yes.. i have 2.. on this one i had to run a patch to make in run i native res....
[09:29] <j0nny86> hi
[09:29] <j0nny86> any TACACS admin around ?
[09:30] <padavoine> Wiseguy : is it a WAP or WEP key ?
[09:30] <Wiseguy> WEP
[09:30] <Jimmey> I might be getting a bit of money for a 256MB Graphics card, but my AGP slot is only 4x. Should I buy a 4x compatible card (would it runs as well), or a PCI card?
[09:30] <j0nny86> i want to restrict users on a per commad infact subcomand basis
[09:30] <jbroome> i dunno if they still put out high end pci video cards.. they're all pcie now
[09:31] <Jimmey> jbroome, I know of a PCI 256MB GeForce that I could get
[09:31] <padavoine> Wiseguy: well no idea
[09:31] <tilmanBK> Hi, when will edgy finally released ?
[09:31] <Jimmey> jbroome, could a 256MB 8x/4x card run at full capacity in a 4x slot?
[09:31] <jbroome> when it's ready
[09:31] <Wiseguy> padavoine, i figured it out... i was using ASCII rather than hex for the key
[09:31] <padavoine> Wiseguy: k
[09:31] <jbroome> it won't run at 8x
[09:31] <padavoine> :)
[09:32] <Shaitis> any ideas how make ubuntu works faster ? recently I was trying to do some basic graphic things (move compression) and I found out that its around 4 times faster on Windows....same is with for example basic apps like seti@home
[09:32] <Jimmey> jbroome, so it won't run at full capacity
[09:32] <jimmypw> Wiseguy: nice one, i siggest using WPA instead of WEP not only is it easier to change the key its more secure too
[09:32] <jbroome> if the slot is 4x, then no
[09:32] <Pepermint-Cordes> Wiseguy: you tried sudo apt-get install wlassistant  <- in many cases it saved a lot of nerve for me
[09:32] <padavoine> jimmypw : you're right, with the good software you can crack any WEP in < 3 mins
[09:32] <Shaitis> my platform isnt really fast but.... centringo 1.4m wasnt so bad....
[09:32] <POVaddct> jimmypw: WPA does not work with every card
[09:32] <Jimmey> jbroome, have you any idea what rate it'd run at? I mean the Clock speed
[09:33] <Wiseguy> Shaitis, thats why ive got is a 1.4ghz centrino in my lappy
[09:33] <jimmypw> POVaddct: regardless if ou can use it you should
[09:33] <BlueKnight> Hello, I'm a new ubuntu user and I'm having a problem with the installer
[09:33] <jbroome> don't know.  look at your mobo docs and video card docs
[09:33] <Wiseguy> im not sure how to setup WPA
[09:33] <MDCore> I'm trying to symlink to a dir in my ~/public_html.. but when I browse to http.. ~me/ I don't see those directories. How do I fix that ?
[09:34] <padavoine> Wiseguy : well if your router supports it it should be somewhere in its options
[09:34] <MDCore> BlueKnight: what problem are you having ?
[09:34] <eck0> hey, anyone use cedega?
[09:34] <Wiseguy> padavoine, i mean more for the client side setup of things
[09:34] <POVaddct> Wiseguy: for WPA you need wpa_supplicant and a card/driver supported by wpa_supplicant
[09:34] <j0nny86> any hepl on tacacs avaialble ?
[09:34] <Wiseguy> POVaddct, ive got an ipw2200 card
[09:34] <padavoine> Wiseguy, right... well, check this link out (2 secs)
[09:34] <POVaddct> Wiseguy: that one is supported
[09:35] <Wiseguy> and is wpa_supplicant something from synaptic?
[09:35] <Shaitis> well 1.4G is not daemon of speed but it was actually workin faster with windows.... any ideas ?
[09:35] <BlueKnight> The problem I'm having is that I am trying to install using the alternate installer so that I can set up RAID and LVM, but the alternate installer is not detecting my network card. If I use the normal graphical installer, it does detect my graphics card, but won't let me install on to the LVM
[09:35] <POVaddct> Wiseguy: wpa_supplicant is a package you can install with synatic, yes
[09:35] <Wiseguy> looks like wpasupplicant is already enabled
[09:35] <slicslak> how do i change my display manager?
[09:36] <Pepermint-Cordes> Wiseguy: did you try wlassistant?
[09:36] <padavoine> Wiseguy: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_enable_WPA_with_Ndiswrapper_driver
[09:36] <Jimmey> jbroome, should I just get the PCI card
[09:36] <slicslak> i have both kdm and gdm installed, but how do i switch between?
[09:36] <eck0> hmm so no1 played windows game with cedega.. shit
[09:36] <jimmypw> slicsack: you can change your WM at the logon prompt (if in a gui)
[09:36] <POVaddct> Wiseguy: i don't know how to configure WPA with the gnome gui, i don't use gnome
[09:36] <Wiseguy> padavoine, i dont believe im using an ndiswrapper driver though
[09:36] <padavoine> Wiseguy: also carry out a quick package search fordrivers that support WPa
[09:36] <slicslak> jimmypw, not window manager, display manager
[09:36] <padavoine> Wiseguy: ok
[09:37] <slicslak> gdm, kdm, entrance, etc.
[09:37] <sioux> hi ubuntus
[09:37] <POVaddct> Wiseguy: you are using ndiswrapper for a ipw2200 card? why?
[09:37] <Wiseguy> POVaddct, i said im NOT using ndiswrapper
[09:37] <padavoine> oh wait a sec ipw2000
[09:38] <POVaddct> Wiseguy: oh, sorry
[09:38] <jimmypw> slickslac: yes, i see what you mean, sorry i dont know, thats one ive wanted to know for a long time. I managed it once but i dont remember how i did it
[09:38] <padavoine> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=130227p=423584
[09:38] <Wiseguy> have any of you guys installed e17 through cvs with ubuntu?
[09:38] <padavoine> not sure it's relevant but...
[09:38] <cypher1> do i have to do anything extra to get the brightness bar/control in AC/Battery tabs in the System->Preferences->Power Management
[09:39] <ProN00b> if i get myself a 64bit version of ubuntu, how can i install some selected packages in 32bit instead of 64bit ? (firefox for flash compatibility, mplayer for codecs compatibility, wine for...)
[09:39] <maxflax> is the Beta drivers for Nvidia compatible with the current kernel. or that doesn't matter? the Version: 1.0-9625
[09:40] <VanessaE> yeah, they're fine
[09:40] <VanessaE> (2.6.18.1 and nv beta here)
[09:40] <sioux> 964 ubuntus??  unbeliveable!
[09:40] <DeZusa> my Ubuntu suddenly lost my wireless device
[09:40] <DeZusa> I don't know what to do, and I've tried reading forums and FAQs, but I don't understand the coding. total noob
[09:40] <BlueKnight> Can someone point me to instructions on how to manually detect / activate the network card?
[09:41] <jimmypw> ifconfig lueknight
[09:41] <VanessaE> re: 64 bit...I'm just gonna wait until someone figures out a nice transparent 32<->64 bit solution before I move that way.
[09:41] <jimmypw> tht shows you all active devices
[09:41] <cypher1> !brightness
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brightness - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <slicslak> BlueKnight, why do you want to do this?
[09:41] <DeZusa> also, I changed the DNS server in Network Settings, and now and again he changes it back to default, killing my connection. Why?
[09:42] <xgm> hello, i have a problem, i have 2 lan cards, and to the 1st one comes internet, and when i was using windows, i shared internet thru 1st to 2nd lan card internet, how to do that on ubuntu ?
[09:42] <Jimmey> DeZusa, check /etc/resolv.conf, and make sure there's only the right address(es) in there
[09:42] <BlueKnight> slicslak, the alternate installer is not detecting the network card (but the normal installer does)
[09:42] <Wiseguy> no one has cvs'ed the newest version of e17 on ubuntu before?
[09:42] <DrSpin> Is edgy still on track for a couple days from now ?
[09:42] <maxflax> VanessaE, Im planing on compiling that kernel aswell.. do I have to reinstall the Nvidia drivers after compiling the new kernel?
[09:42] <Jimmey> xgm, install firestarter
[09:42] <VanessaE> yep
[09:42] <jimmypw> DeZusa: Changind a dns server won't break any active connections
[09:42] <MasseR> Wiseguy: Why?
[09:42] <VanessaE> otherwise the nv driver will bitch about version mismatch or similar.
[09:42] <DeZusa> Jimmey, I did, and it was only one address - the right one. Then it changed again...
[09:43] <DeZusa> well, it does kill my connection, anyhow
[09:43] <DrSpin> !edgy
[09:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:43] <DrSpin> !schedule
[09:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:43] <kps> hi, how do i find out which package contains the file Xlib.h ?
[09:43] <xgm> Jimmey, i get this error : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:43] <xgm> root@critical:~# firestarter
[09:43] <kps> (some package i haven't installed yet)
[09:43] <DeZusa> I have dhcp, but there's nothing wrong with the router
[09:44] <VanessaE> xgm: root doesn't have permission to access you're X display.
[09:44] <Jimmey> xgm, are you running an xserver?
[09:44] <Rock_Star> is there a page were a can see the differentes between dapper and edgy?
[09:44] <MDCore> kps: total guess here... .. x*something*-dev
[09:44] <xgm> Jimmey, im on gnome
[09:44] <MDCore> kps: you trying to compile something ?
[09:44] <Rock_Star> i want to see all the new stuff they have put in
[09:44] <VanessaE> and unless it's changes, gtk has a security lock that keeps it from running as root in some situations
[09:44] <fdsd> hey guys, what is more reliable? rsync -av or cp -av on a dying drive?
[09:44] <VanessaE> s/ges/ged/
[09:44] <kps> MDCore, yes
[09:44] <xgm> VanessaE: what should i do ?
[09:44] <padavoine> Rock_Star : I think it's mostly security patches and repositories updates
[09:44] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows of a frontend to samba, so it's not a bitch to setup?
[09:44] <padavoine> but then no idea that's just little me talking
[09:45] <eck0> anyone use cedega?
[09:45] <Rock_Star> padavoine, ok..
[09:45] <MDCore> kps: probably a *-dev package for x. Those usually give you the headers. Search in your package manager
[09:45] <kps> i already installed x11proto-core-dev, but that doesn't contain /usr/include/X/Xlib.h
[09:45] <MDCore> kps: ah. hmmm. there is a package search somewhere I think....
[09:45] <BlueKnight> Zaggynl, there's always SWAT, but it's a web thing, so you have to have a web server running
[09:45] <VanessaE> xgm: you could try this:  as a normal user,  xhost + 127.0.0.1    and then on the root terminal, export DISPLAY=:0.0
[09:45] <VanessaE> then see if your program will run, but only do that if the program absolutely must be run as root.
[09:45] <Zaggynl> BlueKnight, barf, but thanks
[09:46] <DeZusa> how do I make my Network Manager find my wireless device again? it was there after I installed Ubuntu, but after the computer hibernated it's lost
[09:46] <VanessaE> SWAT doesn't require a webserver.
[09:46] <jimmypw> Zaggynl: I was going to say swat too
[09:46] <VanessaE> just a config file for xinetd.
[09:46] <Rock_Star> the things i have heard was that they upgradet the apt-get commad.. and the sh is replaced with dash
[09:46] <Buglouse> How do I go about conferming that I have Framebuffer support in my kernel (Drapper Drake).  And could I have some helpful advise for setting it up?
[09:46] <kps> i used to use debian before i changed to ubuntu; for that i used some webpage where one could find what package a file exists in
[09:46] <Zaggynl> Yeah, swat seems to be the only frontend'ish thing to samba :<
[09:46] <BlueKnight> VanessaE: it doesn't? my bad then
[09:46] <VanessaE> nope :)
[09:46] <padavoine> Rock_Star: you mean sh is replaced with bash ?
[09:46] <Rosario> #-it
[09:47] <kps> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages  ... is there something similar for ubuntu
[09:47] <VanessaE> "sh" is a symlink to dash.
[09:47] <POVaddct> VanessaE: i think the gtk display problem only occurs if a program is running suid root, so real uid != effective uid. anyway it's annoying.
[09:47] <Rock_Star> padavoine, This is because Edgy replaced the Shell sh with dash
[09:47] <Jimmey> Buglouse, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xerver-xorg , there's  framebuffer option in there
[09:47] <VanessaE> and dash breaks some programs. Bash is still present though
[09:47] <Quixotic> hi
[09:47] <padavoine> oh right
[09:47] <fernandocordes> VanessaE: what is the difference btw sh dash and bash?
[09:47] <VanessaE> POV: ah hah
[09:47] <POVaddct> VanessaE: (if i remember correctly *g*)
[09:48] <VanessaE> fernandocordes, no clue whatsoever, except [lime|frost] wire won't run properly if sh links to dash. :)
[09:48] <Rock_Star> and the apt-get commad is more like the aptitude now.. it removes unused packages
[09:48] <JsonT> okay, im stupid and all... where is the friggin KMess Contact Window? I closed it, but its still running, where can I get it?
[09:48] <kps> seems like that debian page is ok for ubuntu also in this regard, Xlib.h was in libx11-dev
[09:48] <VanessaE> POV: that does sound like what I ran into, not that I can remember the program I was using at the time (maybe xcdroast?
[09:48] <kps> ok thanks
[09:48] <VanessaE> )
[09:48] <jimmypw> fernandocordes: Ba ha ha ha
[09:48] <jimmypw> "ba"
[09:49] <feistel> hi
[09:49] <feistel> how I can increment inode capacity in a filesystem without loss data ?
[09:49] <POVaddct> VanessaE: funny thing is, i can run ethereal without problems, though it uses gtk too
[09:49] <Buglouse> Jimmey: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xerver-xorg > dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[09:49] <VanessaE> hm
[09:49] <JsonT> hmm... nobody knows or everyones ignoring me?
[09:49] <VanessaE> Json: maybe in your system tray?
[09:50] <jimmypw> whats that JsonT?
[09:50] <JsonT> okay, im stupid and all... where is the friggin KMess Contact Window? I closed it, but its still running, where can I get it?
[09:50] <DeZusa> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu find my wireless device again????
[09:50] <fatsheep> what's a good app for converting 3gp video files?
[09:50] <VanessaE> sometimes programs will hide a window when you "close" it (like gaim does with the buddy list, and xmms with it's playlist and EQ)
[09:50] <DrSpin> fatsheep ffmpeg
[09:50] <JsonT> where do I find the system tray then?
[09:50] <fatsheep> ok thanks DrSpin I'll check it out
[09:50] <VanessaE> I don't know kmess at all, but try browsing the menus, see if there's an option  to show the window.
[09:51] <DrSpin> fatsheep: on Dapper I had to compile from source, not sure about edgy
[09:51] <VanessaE> your system tray should be in your panel, no?
[09:51] <VanessaE> (it is on mine, but then again I use KDE)
[09:51] <jimmypw> JsonT: if its crashed have you tried closing it forcefully usind ps&kill
[09:51] <VanessaE> usually on the far right, mimicking windows
[09:51] <eck0> how do i turn on 3d acceleration?
[09:51] <JsonT> jimmy: it hasnt crashed, just... been invisible:P
[09:52] <DeZusa> How do I force Ubuntu to use the DNS server I specify instead of changing back to default all the time? /etc/resolv.conf only specifies the server I want
[09:52] <fernandocordes> VanessaE: limewire?
[09:52] <VanessaE> fernandocordes, yep.  had an issue with that on my hubby's edgy box.
[09:52] <jimmypw> its probably in the system tray then
[09:52] <VanessaE> wouldn't run (some kind of syntax error in the startup script) until I relinked sh --> bash.
[09:52] <jimmypw> in the bottom/top right corner of the screen
[09:53] <VanessaE> frostwire had a similar issue
[09:53] <POVaddct> VanessaE: i wonder which mechanism linked sh to dash. thats very unusual.
[09:53] <Rosario> #ubuntu-it
[09:53] <VanessaE> beats me, I thought it strange too
[09:53] <fernandocordes> oh ok ^^ i saw a similar issue about running an install script
[09:53] <VanessaE> never heard of anyone linking sh to anything but bash
[09:53] <POVaddct> VanessaE: yeah, many scripts rely on that
[09:54] <Quixotic> Hi, major noob here I was wondering about the ubuntu lamp server. Seems really great that it installs all that stuff for me but since im very new to this stuff I was wondering if its possible to make the lamp server have a gui so I can not be so lost.
[09:54] <fernandocordes> why don't they link it as default in dapper?
[09:54] <POVaddct> mine is 44C
[09:55] <eck0> does anyone know how to turn on 3d acceleration?
[09:55] <fernandocordes> unfortunatly has no acpi support for his amd athlon xp
[09:55] <DeZusa> How do I force Ubuntu to use the DNS server I specify instead of changing back to default all the time? /etc/resolv.conf only specifies the server I want
[09:55] <POVaddct> (if acpi tells the truth)
[09:55] <VanessaE> DeZ: you could try making /etc/resolv.conf read-only after you modify it
[09:55] <SinnerG> I'm trying to configure mangos, and get this error : checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... no || configure: error: Missing pthread
[09:55] <VanessaE> (e.g. chmod 444 it)
[09:55] <SinnerG> any ideas?
[09:55] <compengi> how can i copy and paste from my pc to another using ssh?
[09:56] <DeZusa> VanessaE; it is read-only...
[09:56] <DeZusa> I don't get it
[09:56] <jimmypw> comp....: are u in windows?
[09:56] <compengi> jimmypw, ubuntu
[09:56] <VanessaE> DeZ: you sure?
[09:56] <xgm> How to reinstall Gnome ?
[09:56] <fernandocordes> compengi: i don't really now but there is definetly a guide in the wiki
[09:56] <POVaddct> compengi: scp is part of the ssh suite
[09:56] <compengi> jimmypw, from linux to linux using ssh
[09:56] <eck0> ok then were is the package manager?
[09:56] <jimmypw> ok, i know how to do it in the windows ssh clent
[09:56] <SinnerG> Anyone who can help me with my pthread problem?
[09:56] <SinnerG> select the text no? :)
[09:56] <POVaddct> compengi: look at scp and sftp
[09:56] <VanessaE> across a normal ssh session, use the terminal copy&paste method...  highlight with the left button to 'copy', and click the middle button to paste.
[09:57] <aSt3raL> compengi: you should be able to do it with the mouse
[09:57] <DeZusa> VanessaE, yeah, I only change using the Network Manager, which btw lost my wireless device when I hibernated the computer too... but that's another issure
[09:57] <DeZusa> *issue
[09:57] <VanessaE> hrm
[09:57] <POVaddct> compengi: i think scp access is also built it natilus  (not using gnome here)
[09:57] <do_kev> hm, does anybody here know much about Samba?  I'm trying to get my windows machine to access this ubuntu one, however it keeps saying access is denied.  It sees my computer on the workgroup list, though.
[09:58] <fernandocordes> anybody has an athlon xp with via chipset and is able to enjoy acpi -t ?
[09:58] <XiXaQ> I'd like two users of Evolution to share contacts, mail, tasks, etc. What kind of server do I need? LDAP?
[09:58] <VanessaE> short of there being a "proper" fix, the only other thing I could suggest is to `chattr a /etc/resolv.conf`
[09:58] <xgm> How to reinstall Gnome ?
[09:58] <VanessaE> (or replace the a with i to make it totally immutable)
[09:58] <VanessaE> erm
[09:59] <Mad_Mac> hi
[09:59] <Mad_Mac> someone could tell me the difference between lex and flex?
[09:59] <VanessaE> chattr +a /etc/resolv.conf
[09:59] <VanessaE> rather.
[09:59] <compengi> aSt3raL, i know using connect to server tool, but i can't connect to another computer recently i don't know why
[09:59] <compengi> aSt3raL, if this can be done using putty it would be fine
[09:59] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[09:59] <POVaddct> VanessaE: chattr +i is evil :)) i've spent 2 hours helping someone the other day not getting his dns right, just to realize that his resolv.conf was set immutable :)
[09:59] <VanessaE> heh
[10:00] <Quixotic> a friend of mine has asked me to setup apache mysql php pearl and a phpbb. I'm very new to this stuff but am attempting to get this going how much of that will the lamp install do for me?
[10:00] <VanessaE> evil it may be (someone did a goatse on my box a few years ago, took me a while to figure out how to fix it)
[10:00] <diskjunky> hi guys does anyone know where i can download the 2.6.15 kernel deb for edgy???
[10:00] <VanessaE> (work that is)
[10:01] <VanessaE> but it *would* work :)
[10:01] <VanessaE> at least, I think
[10:01] <POVaddct> VanessaE: what's goatse? i am not a native english speaker
[10:01] <VanessaE> !goatse
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about goatse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <VanessaE> aw come on..
[10:01] <VanessaE> well
[10:01] <POVaddct> hehe
[10:01] <jimmypw> Does anyone know how to install the latest version of php(v4) using apt-get for apache2?
[10:01] <mikm[laptop] > Something you never, ever, ever want to see in your life
[10:01] <VanessaE> it's a really nasty picture , let's leave it at that :)
[10:02] <fernandocordes> !openssh
[10:02] <fernandocordes> !ssh
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:02] <fernandocordes> !sshd
[10:02] <DeZusa> VanessaE, I'm a complete noob, so what would happen when I do chattr +a /etc/resolv.conf
[10:02] <fernandocordes> !botsnack
[10:02] <POVaddct> VanessaE: okay, like putting "exit 1" is someones .bash_profile ?
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:02] <kaur> I need to load a daemon after resuming from suspend. How can that be done?
[10:02] <VanessaE> DeZusa, +a would make the file "append only"
[10:02] <VanessaE> that way other dns entries could be added via something like:  echo "nameserver 1.2.3.4" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[10:02] <DigitalNinja> I've got a epox motherboard with a GeForce NX7600 Series video card. The system keeps locking up. 2D stuff works but any time I do 3D it freezes. I can't play planet penguin racer.
[10:03] <DeZusa> how does that differ from read only?
[10:03] <VanessaE> it would keep what you set from being erased.
[10:03] <DeZusa> sweet
[10:03] <DigitalNinja> Anyone have any ideas why my system keeps locking up
[10:03] <michael> help please.  I broke it.  I installed xfwm4 and now when i login with xdm it doesn't do anything
[10:03] <DeZusa> I'll try that
[10:03] <michael> i need to configure xdm to use xfce somehow, i guess.
[10:03] <VanessaE> in the mean time, try google to see if there's a more "proper" fix (like an obscure setting or something)
[10:03] <DeZusa> sure
[10:04] <compengi> POVaddct, i don't know really for what should i search in wiki
[10:04] <kaur> I need to load a script after resuming from suspend. How can that be done?
[10:04] <compengi> !scp
[10:04] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[10:04] <VanessaE> Ninja: using the official nvidia driver?
[10:04] <kaur> I need to load a script after resuming from suspend. How can that be done?
[10:04] <DeZusa> so, any idea why the wireless got lost when the computer hibernated? :)
[10:04] <michael> help please.  I broke it.  I installed xfwm4 and now when i login with xdm it doesn't do anything
[10:04] <kaur> DeZusa: because the daemon doesn't get loaded
[10:05] <michael> i need to configure xdm to use xfce somehow, i guess.
[10:05] <POVaddct> compengi: nautilus and ssh maybe?
[10:05] <kaur> DeZusa: i have the same problem myself
[10:05] <kaur> DeZusa: or...
[10:05] <DeZusa> kaur, you don't have a solution then
[10:05] <do_kev> does anybody know how to access windows machines from my linux box?
[10:05] <kaur> DeZusa: maybe i have
[10:05] <VanessaE> !vbc
[10:05] <VanessaE> ah
[10:05] <VanessaE> !vnc
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vbc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[10:05] <POVaddct> compengi: i thought there is a special type of url you can put in natilus' address line, like ssh://...
[10:06] <kaur> DeZusa: if it is not the daemon then it's the module which doesn't get unloaded to get loaded again. See hibernate.conf
[10:06] <michael> help please.  I broke it.  I installed xfwm4 and now when i login with xdm it doesn't do anything.  I need to configure xdm to use xfce somehow, but I'm not sure how.
[10:06] <VanessaE> could also be the driver - maybe it isn't compatible with suspend/hibernate
[10:06] <VanessaE> I remember people having issues with that in the past.
[10:06] <ShaunES_> Anyone done a dist-upgrade on a dapper server box?
[10:07] <ShaunES_> I'm having dependency issues :(
[10:07] <kaur> DeZusa: there's a list of modules which get unloaded. Add your wireless module there
[10:07] <Surak> There's a package in universe, which is used to re-create a package from your filesystem. Does someone remember which one?
[10:07] <kaur> I need to load a script after resuming from suspend. How can that be done?
[10:07] <VanessaE> Shaun: I do that periodically on my desktop.  try   sudo apt-get -f install
[10:07] <VanessaE> see if that works out the dependency issue.
[10:07] <michael> help please.  I broke it.  I installed xfwm4 and now when i login with xdm it doesn't do anything.  I need to configure xdm to use xfce somehow, but I'm not sure how.
[10:07] <maxflax> will the nv drivers work with a new kernel.. without needing to recompile those drivers?
[10:07] <jimmypw> Is anyone else having problems installing PHP5 apache module with apt-get?!?!?!
[10:08] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: Crashes out.
[10:08] <ShaunES_> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:08] <VanessaE> the official nvidia package (the one you get from nvidia.com) requires a kernel recompile.
[10:08] <ShaunES_> And then.
[10:08] <gnomefreak> maxflax: new kernel?
[10:08] <ShaunES_> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[10:08] <VanessaE> eek.
[10:08] <kaur> I need to load a script after resuming from suspend. How can that be done?
[10:08] <michael> ShaunES_: your logic was having unprotected sex
[10:08] <maxflax> Vanessa, I mean the free nv drivers that comes with ubntu when I install
[10:08] <VanessaE> well give that a try, apt-get --reinstall install programname
[10:08] <michael> it got an STD logic error
[10:09] <gnomefreak> maxflax: what kernel
[10:09] <michael> help please.  I broke it.  I installed xfwm4 and now when i login with xdm it doesn't do anything.  I need to configure xdm to use xfce somehow, but I'm not sure how.
[10:09] <VanessaE> max: the ones with ubuntu only work with certain kernels, particularly those that also come with ubuntu.
[10:09] <maxflax> gnmefreak, im compiling the 2.6.18 kernel .. hoping that will sortout my soundcard problems
[10:09] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: courier-authlib-userdb: Depends: courier-authlib but it is not installable, courier-base: Depends: courier-authlib but it is not installable
[10:09] <pradeep> jimmypw, i've had php4 and 5 no probs here
[10:09] <VanessaE> ok...
[10:10] <michael> help please.  I broke it.  I installed xfwm4 and now when i login with xdm it doesn't do anything.  I need to configure xdm to use xfce somehow, but I'm not sure how.
[10:10] <gnomefreak> maxflax: that is not a supported ubuntu kernel but if i had to guess you might have to compile that module in kernel
[10:10] <Wiseguy> hey guys, ubuntu has my cpu throttled back to 600mhz, and ive got a 1400mhz centrino... how do i bump it up to 1400mhz?
[10:10] <ShaunES_> E: Package courier-authlib has no installation candidate
[10:10] <VanessaE> last time I had that issue (different program) I had ti uninstall the programs that were complaining as well as do a --reinstall of the dependency in question
[10:10] <jimmypw> pradeep: i keep getting a load of 404 "not found" messages when i try to install is, have you added any additional servers?
[10:10] <VanessaE> have you done an update recently also?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> michael: xdm doesnt use xfce. xfce uses gdm
[10:10] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: Yeah.
[10:10] <maxflax> vanessaE, meaning that if I compile the 2.6.18 kernel.. I will not have ubuntu X loading. I'll only have terminal?
[10:10] <VanessaE> ok, I figured you had.,
[10:10] <kaur> I need to load a script after resuming from suspend. How can i do it?
[10:11] <VanessaE> max: correct - the boot system will fall back to the text console.
[10:11] <jimmypw> pradeep: also whats the package name for php4
[10:11] <michael> ah, so i have to use gdm, well it didn't work before, maybe it'll work now
[10:11] <VanessaE> at which point, you could run the nvidia installer against the newly booted kernel.
[10:11] <VanessaE> then restart kdm and you should be up, assuming of course X is configured correctly, of course.
[10:12] <VanessaE> eh.. I'm a little repetative today..
[10:12] <pradeep> jimmypw, i had a local instance of a php CMS running. libapache-mod-php4
[10:12] <kaur> I need to load a script after resuming from suspend. How can i do it?
[10:12] <maxflax> VanessaE, do I have to download any headers or the soourcecode I have for the kernel in /usr/src will be enouh to install the nivida?
[10:12] <ShaunES_> VanessaE, I can't uninstall, since the dependencies are missing.
[10:12] <slicslak> can i hibernate my laptop from the cli?
[10:12] <m3talc0re> i got a question
[10:12] <VanessaE> Shaun: you can force an uninstall
[10:12] <gnomefreak> kaur: when someone knows they will answer you. can you please wait like 3-5 minutes between asking
[10:12] <Wiseguy> hey guys, ubuntu has my cpu throttled back to 600mhz, and ive got a 1400mhz centrino... how do i bump it up to 1400mhz?
[10:13] <jimmypw> pradeep: ta!
[10:13] <VanessaE> I think there's an --ignore-depends switch (checking)
[10:13] <m3talc0re> i'm going to use that gnome partition program
[10:13] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: sudo apt-get -f remove courier-base ?
[10:13] <VanessaE> max: well, you're building an 'official' kernel release, right?
[10:13] <m3talc0re> know what i'm talking about?
[10:13] <VanessaE> (as in,m something fetched from kernel.org?)
[10:13] <ShaunES_> And if I -f remove courier*
[10:13] <michael> Starting GNOME Display Manager ... fail!
[10:13] <michael> where do i find out WHY it failed?
[10:13] <ShaunES_> It bombs out with "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[10:13] <ShaunES_> "
[10:13] <maxflax> VanessaE, yes.. fetched from kernel.org
[10:13] <VanessaE> Shaun, try the -m switch
[10:14] <diskjunky> can anyone help me downgrade my edgy kernel????
[10:14] <gnomefreak> michael: what video card?
[10:14] <kaur> gnomefreak: what you said is clear to me... But I think that I have not asked too much or too constantly
[10:14] <VanessaE> max: ok, once the kernel is installed and you boot from it, you should be done (you already have the 'headers', they come with the kernel)
[10:14] <gnomefreak> !repeat | kaur
[10:14] <ubotu> kaur: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:14] <VanessaE> just run the nv installer (sudo or as true root)
[10:15] <m3talc0re> GPartED, i'm going to use that to remove my linux install and partition the space to ntfs
[10:15] <rmd_> is there a way to allow windows to cover the top gnome panel?
[10:15] <m3talc0re> now i'm running winxp pro and ubuntu right now
[10:15] <m3talc0re> and grub boot loader
[10:15] <kaur> gnomefreak: I have searched. Not from that url though
[10:15] <maxflax> VanessaE, ok, always hav people say.. I must download kernel headers .. bla bla bla.. so that is only needed for the kernel that comes with ubuntu?
[10:15] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: With which command?
[10:15] <m3talc0re> when i use gparted to remove ubuntu and partition that space to ntfs, will it mess up the loading of my winxp install?
[10:15] <VanessaE> shaun: apt-get -m remove package
[10:15] <VanessaE> max: yep
[10:15] <michael> okay, gdm comes up to the login screen and that's cool. but all i get when i login is a maroon screen.  I'm thinking gdm doesn't know about xfce?
[10:16] <VanessaE> max: same holds true for most other distros also.
[10:16] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: gives me dependency errors.
[10:16] <gnomefreak> michael: try installing xubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <m3talc0re> anyone?
[10:16] <VanessaE> dammit
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ShaunES_: is this apache?
[10:16] <maxflax> VanessaE, ok.. Ill give it a try then.. do I  need anything else downloaded for compiling the kernel besides the kernel sourcecode?
[10:16] <michael> gnomefreak: okay
[10:17] <ShaunES_> gnomefreak: Courier.
[10:17] <VanessaE> max: you'll need to install the 'build-essential' package also.
[10:17] <baua> is there a gui for partitioning ?
[10:17] <m3talc0re> baua: gparted
[10:17] <VanessaE> and I think libncurses5-dev or however it's named.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> baua: gparted
[10:17] <mimithebrain> gparted is pretty good too :)
[10:17] <gilnim> !ati
[10:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:17] <m3talc0re> now can i please get an answer?
[10:17] <mimithebrain> kinda like partitionmagic
[10:18] <POVaddct> m3talc0re: should be no problem, but since i don't use winxp, i am not sure
[10:18] <mimithebrain> m3talc0re:
[10:18] <michael> hmm... thats a lot of programs i don't need...
[10:18] <michael> oh well
[10:18] <mimithebrain> Resizing down, never had a problem
[10:18] <gilnim> partition magic isn't bad, but somtimes does mess up something
[10:18] <mimithebrain> Resizing up: don't know
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ShaunES_: can you use sudo dpkg -r packagename?
[10:18] <mimithebrain> in all cases, it does a consistancy check, and goes on living
[10:18] <pradeep> m3talc0re, if you don't touch the C: you should be safe
[10:18] <m3talc0re> okay
[10:19] <ShaunES_> gnomefreak: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[10:19] <m3talc0re> but once the grub boot loader is gone, winxp will boot up normally right?
[10:19] <gilnim> Does somebody know a working How-to for fglrx with edgy eft?
[10:19] <VanessaE> Shaun: try using dpkg to install it
[10:19] <ShaunES_> How do I do that?
[10:19] <VanessaE> dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename.blah.blah
[10:19] <VanessaE> .deb
[10:19] <pradeep> m3talc0re, no, you would have to rewrite the windows bootloader onto the MBR
[10:19] <gnomefreak> ShaunES_: in any of the errrors did it give you a location?
[10:19] <m3talc0re> how do i do that? :/
[10:19] <Lubix> hello
[10:19] <Lubix> how is ubuntu today?
[10:19] <gilnim> ShaunES_: Search a "How-to" :D
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Lubix: same as yesterday
[10:20] <Lubix> so firefox 2 is that same as rc3 huh
[10:20] <Lubix> kinda disappointing
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Lubix: sort of and please ask edgy related questions in #ubuntu+1
[10:21] <Lubix> gnomefreaK: i didnt ask an edgy related question
[10:21] <m3talc0re> pradeep: how do i rewrite the windows bootloader onto the mbr?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Lubix: firefox 2 is not in dapper its in edgy
[10:21] <gilnim> Is there a way to get to run my ati radeon X1600 under Edgy Eft?
[10:21] <ShaunES_>  courier-authdaemon (version 0.47-13ubuntu5.1) is broken due to postinst failure.
[10:21] <ShaunES_> OK, that's something.
[10:21] <gnomefreak> gilnim: #ubuntu+1
[10:21] <pradeep> m3talc0re, please hold on
[10:21] <VanessaE> ok, we're getting someplace.
[10:21] <m3talc0re> aight
[10:21] <crochat> I have upgraded my system to Edgy, and I saw that now, the partitions are named with UUID in fstab ! That's great... but how to deal with UUID ? If I change my partitions, how can I know which new UUID I must write in the fstab ?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> m3talc0re: why not use windows cds
[10:21] <gilnim> thank you very much
[10:21] <Lubix> gnomefreak: you dont know what your talking about
[10:21] <gnomefreak> crochat: #ubuntu+1
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Lubix: dont i?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Lubix: ff2.0 is not in dapper at all
[10:22] <crochat> gnomefreak: Oh... thanks ;-)
[10:22] <Lubix> gnomefreak: maybe beacause you have to go and upgrade it!?
[10:22] <POVaddct> crochat: tune2fs -l /dev/<partition>   should tell you the uuid
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Lubix: you have to upgrade to edgy or install it from tar
[10:22] <Lubix> gnomefreak: so what should be talk about in here?
[10:23] <VanessaE> dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename.blah.deb
[10:23] <VanessaE> see if THAT does the trick :)
[10:23] <Lubix> gnomefreak: dapper is over anyways
[10:23] <michael> dangit.  something is seriously broken but i don't know what it is!
[10:23] <pradeep> m3talc0re, you would need a windows installation disk. Boot with it. And to the recovery mode and do a 'fixmbr'
[10:23] <VanessaE> and then try [re] installing everything.
[10:23] <gnomefreak> Lubix: take the edgy topic to #ubuntu+1
[10:23] <crochat> POVaddct: And for the filesystems other than ext2/ext3/ext4 ?
[10:24] <POVaddct> crochat: i don't know
[10:24] <VanessaE> dapper isn't "over".  not for another year yet.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: `a few
[10:24] <michael> gnomefreak: i instaled xubuntu-desktop like you said and now i get a light blue screen when i login instead of a maroon screen
[10:24] <rmd_> anyone know of a way to make the gnome panel allow windows to cover it?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> michael: good
[10:24] <michael> no menus, no clicking, nothing
[10:24] <gnomefreak> michael: do you get panels?
[10:24] <m3talc0re> son of a...
[10:24] <preaction> how can i set up my firewall to only allow outgoing connections on port 25 to be to a specific IP address?
[10:24] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: dpkg: need an action option
[10:24] <gnomefreak> michael: restart see if that helps
[10:24] <m3talc0re> my winxp disk isn't bootable
[10:24] <m3talc0re> so i'm f***ed
[10:24] <michael> gnomefreak: nope, just a sea of blue
[10:24] <VanessaE> Shaun: ok, add a -r to that
[10:24] <VanessaE> dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename.blah.deb
[10:24] <Lubix> so what about ubuntu 7.0 whens that coming out
[10:24] <michael> gnomefreak: i just did.
[10:25] <VanessaE> making guesses here, your package is broken worse than mine was :)
[10:25] <pradeep> m3talc0re, i think you can download the bootdisk from microsoft.com ... it would fit in a floppy
[10:25] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: see if he can remove anythin gimportant by hand
[10:25] <samir85> !info
[10:25] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB
[10:25] <m3talc0re> i don't have any floppy disks
[10:25] <gnomefreak> as in cd /usr/share.... sudo rm -rf file
[10:25] <m3talc0re> i don't think my fdd even works
[10:25] <VanessaE> gnomefreak, will do that next, trying to stay within the packaging system so we don't break anything else :)
[10:26] <music_man_nz> Hi I can't find jpilot on synaptics
[10:26] <samir85> !info
[10:26] <VanessaE> I think what he will need to do though is play around with the dpkg database and make the system "forget" that the package is installed.
[10:26] <michael> any idea how to get out of a broken wm?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> VanessaE: i kno wbut ive seen that error with apache and cant remember how i fixed it
[10:26] <auTONYmous> HELP! I hosed my xorg.conf, now I'm stuck at 640x480
[10:26] <devilz> hi, what is good email client for linux ?
[10:26] <POVaddct> m3talc0re: you could make a bootable cd from a bootable floppy image
[10:26] <VanessaE> oh ok
[10:26] <gnomefreak> michael: do you have gnome/kde also?
[10:26] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: invoke-rc.d: initscript courier-authdaemon, action "stop" failed.
[10:26] <michael> i just want to be able to point and click.  is  that too much to ask?
[10:26] <ShaunES_> It's broke to hell, the files it's trying to use aren't there.
[10:26] <m3talc0re> how do i do that?
[10:27] <VanessaE> dammit
[10:27] <POVaddct> m3talc0re: but i don't know if one floppy is sufficient for writing a windows xp mbr
[10:27] <VanessaE> what happens if you change that -r to -i?
[10:27] <m3talc0re> i can burn a cd
[10:27] <music_man_nz> How can I access other repositories in Synaptic? I would like to find jpilot
[10:27] <VanessaE> dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -i /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename.blah.deb
[10:27] <michael> gnomefreak: i don't thiink so.  this is what i installed.  first, fluxbox with xdm, then xfce with gdm, then xubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <m3talc0re> but a floppy is not an option
[10:27] <gnomefreak> michael: fluxbox uses gtk iirc :(
[10:28] <Buglouse> How do you change the tty Resolution or Text font?
[10:28] <michael> gnomefreak: what does that mean?
[10:28] <compengi> how do delete a file in terminal
[10:28] <mlehrer_work> i am having /lib/firmware issues - is there a generic place to put firmware files instead of /lib/firmware/kernel-version ?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> compengi: rm
[10:28] <POVaddct> compengi: rm filename
[10:28] <mlehrer_work> every time there is a new kernel, my tv card breaks
[10:29] <music_man_nz> anyone?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> michael: GTK is the library that gnome xfce and others use
[10:29] <dtg> LINUX SUCKS
[10:29] <eXistenZ> any better program than the default 'archive manager'
[10:29] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: Still errors, subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 and more!
[10:29] <VanessaE> awww.... let me play next time :)
[10:29] <VanessaE> dammit!
[10:29] <VanessaE> ok
[10:29] <michael> gnomefreak: i mean, what does that mean in terms of fixing this?
[10:30] <michael> for one, how do i get out of a broken wm, so that i can try to fix it?
[10:30] <music_man_nz> ok well I guess I'll go try and find out somewhere else
[10:30] <mimithebrain> I'm curious to know how many people get booted off this place in a day
[10:30] <michael> alt-ctrl-f1 doesn't work like in most distros
[10:30] <gnomefreak> michael: i was gonna have you remove all GTK apps and than reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <Siph0n> does anyone have a Dlink DWL-G630 wireless pcmia card?
[10:30] <michael> gnomefreak: spoke to soon, it didn't work before but it works now
[10:30] <gnomefreak> it should work fine
[10:30] <michael> the alt-ctrl-f1 i mean
[10:30] <gnomefreak> michael: are you on dapper or edgy?
[10:30] <sholden> Has anyone had success installing Zend Studio on Edgy RC?  I am trying to install, and I keep getting the following error message (One line of a few) "Configuring the installer for this system's environment... nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"  Has anyone had a similar problem or have any suggestions?
[10:30] <michael> gnomefreak: okay how do i remove just gtk aps?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> michael: ctrl+altF 1-6
[10:31] <michael> gnomefreak: dapper
[10:31] <pradeep> m3talc0re, there should be an option to rewrite MBR from within windows. I'm not sure though
[10:31] <gnomefreak> michael: ok let me find the lib
[10:31] <michael> k
[10:31] <VanessaE> ok, let's take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:31] <VanessaE> can you find your package in there?
[10:31] <jimmypw> m3talc0re: i think the MBR can be rewritten using the chkdisk command about 60% sure
[10:32] <dnite> is there a way to 'create' a security policy?? I'm trying to get evdev to work with Edgy, but every time i edit xorg.conf to use the evdev mouse i get a 'unable to load security policy /usr/lib/xsession/SecurityPolicy' .. but that file doesn't exist.. i'm new to ubuntu and not sure how to resolve this...
[10:32] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: Yeah.
[10:32] <VanessaE> as for this MBR thing...personally I'd just let LILO do the work.
[10:32] <sholden> there's a command i think fixmbr or something on the repair cd
[10:32] <sholden> not sure exactly
[10:32] <ShaunES_> Status: install reinstreq half-configured
[10:32] <VanessaE> Shaun: see where it says "Status:  install " and some other words?
[10:32] <sholden> or on the installation cd in repair mode
[10:32] <VanessaE> ok
[10:32] <VanessaE> change it to deinstall.
[10:32] <Xaphoo> I know this is an edgy question but no one in that channel seems to want to answer... 2 part question:  #1.  If I want to add an ntfs sata drive, all I have to do is add "/dev/sdb   /media/sdb   ntfs" to my fstab, right?  #2.  How do I get a UUID for that drive if I want to do it that way?
[10:33] <mimithebrain> when the mbr breaks, I just shove knoppix, slax, or DSL in there and fix it using plain old command line
[10:33] <VanessaE> actually, "Status:  deinstall ok config-files" might do it
[10:33] <dcordes> which command enables remote clients to access my pc with ssh-server (it is installed). i'm behind a router?
[10:33] <ShaunES_> OK, which command do I want after that?
[10:33] <mimithebrain> dcordes: you must modify your router to allow that
[10:33] <ton> i have forgotten my password of linux, is there one way to recover it, i wouldnt like to install of the packages again
[10:33] <VanessaE> or better yet, "Status:  deinstall ok not-installed"
[10:33] <gnomefreak> michael: remove libgtk1.2 it should remove alot of things let me know before you remove them how many it wants to remove
[10:33] <jimmypw> dcordes: first open the port on the router
[10:33] <rc-1> how do i get idientified? (it says i cant join #java)
[10:33] <michael> gnomefreak: when i look at the sessions there isn't any sessions there to chose from, just default session.  maybe thats the problem?
[10:33] <dcordes> 22 right? i allready have it mapped
[10:33] <dcordes> to my local ip
[10:33] <VanessaE> then try installing the package again with dpkg
[10:33] <michael> gnomefreak: how do you tell gdm where the wm lives?
[10:34] <jimmypw> great then it should work
[10:34] <VanessaE> dpkg -i  /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename.blah.deb
[10:34] <gnomefreak> michael: xubuntu didnt ionstall properly
[10:34] <dcordes> no need to enable it?
[10:34] <dcordes> jimmypw?
[10:34] <jimmypw> yes
[10:34] <ShaunES_> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1619 package `courier-authdaemon':, Configured-Version for package with inappropriate Status
[10:34] <gnomefreak> rc-1: /msg nickserv identify <your password>
[10:34] <VanessaE> ok, sec.
[10:34] <jimmypw> no "special"configuration is needed when you have installed OpenSSH (im not sure about ther servers)
[10:34] <VanessaE> we're getting somewhere :)
[10:34] <michael> gnomefreak: okay.  how do i get it to ask me before i install?
[10:34] <michael> er, uninstall
[10:35] <eck0> hey how do stop the xserver?
[10:35] <eck0> im trying to install a driver and it says stop x server
[10:35] <gnomefreak> michael:sudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk1.2 will ask you yes or no to continue you dont have to do anything
[10:35] <rc-1> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:35] <POVaddct> eck0: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:36] <VanessaE> try just removing that entire package from the file then.
[10:36] <VanessaE> but back up the file first of course.
[10:36] <dcordes> jimmypw: i'm on a dapper desktop and only have ssh-server installed.
[10:36] <michael> gnomefreak: it says 0 to remove
[10:36] <POVaddct> ton: do you know how to pass kernel boot parameters in grub?
[10:36] <VanessaE> you might need to do an apt-get update after you edit it
[10:36] <gnomefreak> michael: thats what i was afraid of
[10:36] <jimmypw> dcordes: Is it OpenSSH?
[10:36] <michael> gnomefreak: oh?
[10:36] <dcordes> i think so
[10:36] <gnomefreak> !info libgtk1.2
[10:36] <ubotu> libgtk1.2: The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (dapper), package size 817 kB, installed size 1772 kB
[10:37] <gnomefreak> michael: and you installed xubuntu-desktop?
[10:37] <michael> yup
[10:37] <rc-1> hmmm is there a way to use python and ruby together?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> michael: apt-cache policy libgtk1.2
[10:37] <jimmypw> dcordes in the client start it with "ssh -l <username> <ip address>" and enter your password when prompted
[10:38] <gnomefreak> michael: what does it say next to installed
[10:38] <michael> gnomefreak: installed (none)
[10:38] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[10:38] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: I think we've fixed it...
[10:38] <VanessaE> hot damn
[10:38] <dcordes> jimmypw: the client is a win32 one which uses putty
[10:38] <gnomefreak> michael: care to install gnome? reason i ask is it should bring in all needed files as xubuntu should have
[10:39] <POVaddct> dcordes: you'll find equivalents for username and hostname in putty too
[10:39] <jimmypw> dcordes what happens when ou try to connect to the ip address
[10:39] <VanessaE> shaun: did the install go ok?
[10:39] <michael> gnomefreak: i guess if i have to to get the da** thing to work
[10:40] <dcordes> jimmypw: the client is cooking dinner atm
[10:40] <dcordes> :D
[10:40] <gnomefreak> michael: there might be an issue with xubuntu
[10:40] <gnomefreak> michael: give me a min
[10:40] <POVaddct> dcordes: lol
[10:40] <user-land> will Ubuntu 6.10 amd64 version again not be able to play wmv movies ?
[10:40] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: Yeah, installed it, then a few dependencies, now I'm upgrading so the versions are compatible with the new ones.
[10:40] <Siph0n> does dapper lts have the madwifi driver already? :)
[10:40] <VanessaE> good deal
[10:41] <michael> gnomefreak: i looks like there is.  i can't remove it or reinstall it.
[10:41] <POVaddct> dcordes: you can also check if the ssh server is running with telnet or netcat:   nc ipaddress 22
[10:41] <gnomefreak> michael: what is there?
[10:41] <jimmypw> dcordes: let me get putty 1 sec
[10:41] <Code-E> what's a good firewall for ubuntu?
[10:41] <POVaddct> dcordes: that should be answered with the protocol version string
[10:41] <VanessaE> Code: iptables. :)
[10:41] <michael> gnomefreak: when i do a remove it says 0 to remove
[10:41] <VanessaE> (the one that comes with the kernel)(
[10:41] <ShaunES_> VanessaE: Fixed it, you legend :D
[10:41] <Code-E> ok
[10:41] <dcordes> ok thx
[10:42] <Code-E> So apt-get install iptables VanessaE?
[10:42] <VanessaE> Shaun: <quakevoice> Excellent, </quakevoice>
[10:42] <VanessaE> :)
[10:42] <VanessaE> Code: check first if it's already installed
[10:42] <Code-E> k
[10:42] <michael> woah... i think i caught something
[10:42] <VanessaE> but yeah, iptables is the name of the pkg.
[10:42] <Code-E> yeah it is
[10:42] <Code-E> Lol
[10:42] <VanessaE> ok
[10:42] <michael> Keep the following packages at their current version:
[10:43] <michael> xubuntu-desktop [Not Installed] 
[10:43] <dcordes> jimmypw: no need to but thanks. could you tell me what this means?
[10:43] <dcordes> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[10:43] <POVaddct> dcordes: thats the problem
[10:43] <dcordes> jimmypw: same for [...}rsa_key
[10:43] <VanessaE> here, take a look at this:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28149/
[10:43] <dcordes> POVaddct: how can i solve it?
[10:43] <POVaddct> dcordes: one moment please
[10:44] <VanessaE> that's what my firewall init script looks like.  You can leave off the first three and the MASQ.. line to do basic filtering.
[10:44] <jwl007> T-2 days
[10:44] <dcordes> POVaddct: k thanks for helping
[10:44] <jimmypw> Dcordes: it means your encryption keys haven't been generated OpenSSH does it automatically on install
[10:44] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:44] <dcordes> so if i would reinstall the ssh-server packet it would reconfigure?
[10:44] <VanessaE> (why those three ports are visible to the world, I have yet to figure out.... so I blocked them)
[10:45] <dcordes>  /regenerate the keys?
[10:45] <compengi> how do i rename a file in the terminal?
[10:45] <jimmypw> dcordes if you can find out the make of SSH server you've installed i could help you. theres probably a command to regenerate them
[10:46] <VanessaE> Shaun, is it still running ok?
[10:46] <POVaddct> dcordes: sudo ssh-keygen -t rsa1 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -C '' -N ''
[10:46] <Aspic> compengi: use the mv command
[10:46] <michael> ARGT
[10:46] <POVaddct> dcordes: sudo ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -C '' -N ''
[10:46] <michael> now the stupid network is broken
[10:46] <compengi> Aspic, mv file newfile?
[10:46] <POVaddct> dcordes: sudo ssh-keygen -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -C '' -N ''
[10:46] <michael> this is a serious pain
[10:46] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:46] <VanessaE> eh?  what do -C and -N do there?
[10:46] <lerch> Help! I removed my sudo rights somehow, how do I get them back?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> michael: try sudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk2.0-0
[10:47] <VanessaE> oh there they are.
[10:47] <Aspic> yeah - its short for move.  you're basically moving the file to another one, but you can use it to move it to different dirs too
[10:47] <gnomefreak> michael: let me know before you say yes
[10:47] <POVaddct> dcordes: this will generate 3 keypairs in /etc/ssh
[10:47] <jimmypw> lerch: ad yourself back to the admin group
[10:47] <lerch> jimmypw: How do I do that?
[10:47] <dcordes> POVaddct: nice. does my mate need those keys in order to connect?
[10:47] <jimmypw> lerch: i mean the sudo group
[10:47] <POVaddct> dcordes: he does not need them
[10:48] <Wiseguy> hey guys you know after you login into gdm there is that ubuntu window that pops up showing what is being loaded right before gnome actually loads? well is there anyway to change that window?
[10:48] <lerch> jimmypw: Yes I understand, but what is the terminal command to do it?
[10:48] <jimmypw> lerch you need a user with su privelages
[10:48] <dcordes> POVaddct: what are they for then? :-)
[10:48] <DigitalNinja> is glxdemo supposed to do something? I just get a rectangle that doesn't do anything.
[10:48] <michael> gnomefreak: what do you need?
[10:48] <POVaddct> dcordes: these keys are only for re-identifying the server to the client, when he logs in for the second time
[10:48] <Code-E> !THE IRON
[10:48] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:48] <lerch> jimmypw: I have only one user
[10:48] <gnomefreak> michael: when you remove that does it say how many packages it want to remove?
[10:48] <cpk2> Wiseguy: yes, but I dont know where the menu is for gnome =\
[10:48] <VanessaE> that's all i get too, DigitalNinja
[10:49] <Code-E> ??
[10:49] <POVaddct> dcordes: so the client can check if the server is still the same machine and not a man in the middle attack
[10:49] <SeanTater> apache2 says --> an unknown filter was not added: includes <-- whenever I try to enable SSI, and says the directive XBitHack does not exist. Does this have something to do with mod_inclode, and how do I fix it?
[10:49] <michael> gnomefreak: it looks like it would downgrade libgtk2.0-0 and the score is -28
[10:49] <dcordes> POVaddct: oh i see. thanks for your help for now. i will tell you wether my mate could connect or not
[10:49] <DigitalNinja> VanessaE: What vid card are you using?
[10:49] <VanessaE> it's probably a programmer's stub, for learning purposes.
[10:49] <VanessaE> nvidia 6600.
[10:49] <Wiseguy> cpk2, so there is so way to modify it from gnome?
[10:49] <jimmypw> lerch: oops you need to make a boot disk, mount the partition and add your username to the sudo group in /etc/group
[10:49] <michael> it looks like two
[10:49] <cpk2> Wiseguy: I dont see why not if kde can do it
[10:49] <POVaddct> dcordes: after generating the keys, you must start the ssh server again
[10:49] <dcordes> POVaddct: interesting. btw is this secure anyway? or is my box like an open book now?
[10:49] <cpk2> Wiseguy: I just am not familiar at all with gnome =( sorry
[10:49] <gnomefreak> !info libgtk2.0-0
[10:49] <DigitalNinja> VanessaE: I've got the NX7600. It's not working at the moment. The system locks up now and then. Not sure why.
[10:49] <michael> gnomefreak: libgtk2.0-0 and hicolor-icon-them
[10:50] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2037 kB, installed size 4520 kB
[10:50] <POVaddct> dcordes: one still needs a username/password to log in
[10:50] <Wiseguy> cpk2, np's im not either :P
[10:50] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:50] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:50] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:50] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:50] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:50] <LoRez> Warning: `_haluk_' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:50] <_haluk_> hi everyone. I have a problem to call setxkbmap tr over the every start how can i do this. many 10x in advance
[10:50] <jimmypw> dcordes: not at all the ssh kes just stop people "sniffing" your conection
[10:50] <dcordes> omg kick this guy
[10:50] <VanessaE> try going into gnome control center, ACK!!!
[10:50] <lerch> jimmypw: ok, can you point me to some guide on making/using bootdisks?
[10:50] <Wiseguy> i wanna cvs e17 but im not too sure if its going to work
[10:50] <VanessaE> oops
[10:50] <VanessaE> eh, anyway
[10:50] <michael> gnomefreak: should i?
[10:50] <jimmypw> lerch: you can use the ubuntu live cd that will work
[10:50] <khaije1> hi
[10:51] <gnomefreak> michael: apt shouldnt want to downgrade it or give you a rating
[10:51] <yakumo> hello how do i force to dispay resolution that are not present in screen resolution
[10:51] <gnomefreak> michael: aptitude does that not apt
[10:51] <khaije1> anyone know if screen supports gui apps?
[10:51] <DigitalNinja> Anyone having troube with the nvidia driver?
[10:51] <VanessaE> I can't pull it up, but I'm guessing you want to look in the session manager option in gnome control center.
[10:51] <dcordes> POVaddct: the errors still appear after dcordes@dcordes-desktop:~$ /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:51] <gnomefreak> michael: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[10:51] <sholden> Has anyone had success installing Zend Studio on Edgy RC?  I am trying to install, and I keep getting the following error message (One line of a few) "Configuring the installer for this system's environment... nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"  Has anyone had a similar problem or have any suggestions?
[10:51] <michael> gnomefreak: sorry, hapit
[10:51] <gnomefreak> sholden: join #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <POVaddct> dcordes: you must start the script with sudo
[10:51] <VanessaE> DigitalNinja:  are you using ubuntu's kernel and nvidia driver?
[10:52] <lerch> jimmypw: great, so I boot the live cd version - how do I mount my partition?
[10:52] <POVaddct> dcordes: or are you root anyway?
[10:52] <michael> gnomefreak: 28 packages to remove
[10:52] <jwl007> DigitalNinja, there was a bugfix just recently for the nvidia driver
[10:52] <sholden> ok gnomefreak
[10:52] <gnomefreak> michael: can you use pastebin and paste them to it
[10:52] <sholden> dont know if that is an edgy-specific error or not
[10:52] <gnomefreak> michael: i want to see what it wants to remove
[10:52] <gnomefreak> sholden: your on edgy
[10:52] <POVaddct> dcordes: sshd (the ssh server) must run as root, so you cannot start it as user. normally it will be started at system boot.
[10:52] <michael> gnomefreak: i've got no internet.  I can get into the computer from another one, but for some reason going out is not an option
[10:52] <jimmypw> lerch: the drive should be mounted alread automatically. there should be an icon in the desktop. Open the file /etc/group
[10:53] <dcordes> oh now it seems to work
[10:53] <mcquaid> how do I list permissions of / ?
[10:53] <michael> gnomefreak: i don't know why, this just started
[10:53] <lerch> jimmypw: ok thanks a million mate, I'll give it a go.
[10:53] <maxflax> where do I find my current config file for the kernel?
[10:53] <eck0> hey i need to stop my x server to install nvidia how do i do it
[10:53] <jimmypw> lerch: no problem come back if you still have a proble
[10:53] <jimmypw> m
[10:53] <dcordes> POVaddct: when i start as root the errors are gone
[10:53] <POVaddct> dcordes: i wonder how you managed to get openssh-server installed _without_ generating the keys. that is something the install process should do automatically.
[10:53] <gnomefreak> michael: than its a good chance xubuntu-desktop didnt finish installing
[10:53] <mcquaid> I think my friend encountered that old checkinstall problem, I encountered it before and I know how to chmod / but I want to list it first and verify
[10:54] <dcordes> POVaddct: yea maybe it's because i never tried starting as root lolz
[10:54] <maxflax> need it to use menuconfig to config my own kernel
[10:54] <angelo> hello all! i was wondering how to play kanagram in italian
[10:54] <RyanTMulligan> sad
[10:54] <Aspic> maxflax: usually under /boot i think
[10:54] <angelo> the program is translated but the anagrams are in english
[10:54] <maxflax> and I don't want to do it al from scratch
[10:54] <angelo> any idea ??
[10:54] <VanessaE> look in /boot, max.
[10:54] <maxflax> Aspic.. ok. il check there
[10:54] <POVaddct> dcordes: i get the ssh version string now if i connect to you, so the server is running
[10:54] <eck0> has anyone had trouble installing nvidia drivers?
[10:54] <VanessaE> there's files like config-2.6.15 and so on
[10:54] <yakumo> is there anyway to add screen resolution?
[10:55] <dcordes> POVaddct: i feel insecure now lol
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !fixres | yakumo
[10:55] <ubotu> yakumo: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:55] <VanessaE> start with whatever you use now, copy that to /usr/src/linux-2.6.blah/.config
[10:55] <Aspic> maxflax: will probably be called config-<kernelversion>. yoiu need to copy it to .config under your new kernel source dir
[10:55] <yakumo> thnks
[10:55] <jimmypw> dcordes: dont worry just make sure you use a secure password and obscure usernames
[10:55] <cpk2> Wiseguy: in kde they are called "splash screens" (the screen after you log in and it is loading everything for the enviroment)
[10:55] <VanessaE> (that is, as a file named ".config" in the top of your kernel tree)
[10:55] <maxflax> VanessaE, config-2.6.17-10-generic  this one?
[10:55] <POVaddct> dcordes: sshd is rather secure. there have been issues in older versions, though.
[10:55] <angelo> hello all! i was wondering how to play kanagram in italian... the program is translated but the anagrams are in english... any hint ?
[10:55] <yakumo> i reinstall my ubuntu.
[10:55] <VanessaE> if that's what you're running now, yeah
[10:56] <VanessaE> but you'll want to trim it down
[10:56] <rc-1> hmmmm how do i use gems in ruby?
[10:56] <eck0> has anyone had a bit of trouble installing nvidia drivers?
[10:56] <dcordes> POVaddct: i guess i'm more save then on any ms windows right?
[10:56] <michael> gnomefreak: sent to a paraphrase of the output in private
[10:56] <progek> I just notices that my direct rendering is off after installing xgl+beryl. I still have the correct drivers installed (nvidia) as when I restart x I see the nvidia logo. Any ideas?
[10:56] <VanessaE> the -generic kernels have tons of modules and extra options turned on that won't apply to your box.
[10:56] <POVaddct> dcordes: i dont know what other services you run that are available to the public
[10:56] <eck0> better question can anyone help me install nvidia drivers?
[10:57] <POVaddct> dcordes: do you mind a nmap scan?
[10:57] <mortalguy> Can I access Firefox' cache? Does anyone know where it's saved?
[10:57] <Aspic> maxflax: i would use xconfig instead of menuconfig.  much easier to see what is going on - but personal preference
[10:57] <dcordes> POVaddct: i don't know
[10:57] <maxflax> VanessaE, yeah I know.. thats why I wanted to compile my own.. so It don't load the ones I don't need for my box.. so I cp it to just  .config no name just..  ".config"
[10:57] <dcordes> what services i have
[10:57] <VanessaE> yeppers.
[10:57] <ewin> Hello.
[10:57] <angelo> hello all! i was wondering how to play kanagram in italian... the program is translated but the anagrams are in english... any hint ?
[10:57] <dcordes> POVaddct: nmap isn't this that scanner thing?
[10:58] <POVaddct> dcordes: netstat --inet -an | grep LISTEN    should give you a short info of services listening on tcp ports
[10:58] <chrisjw> hi, how do i install python 2.5 on linux without it messing up the default install..
[10:58] <FX|Laptop> Hullo
[10:58] <maxflax> Aspic, is xconfig also provieded with the source or must i download that seperate?
[10:58] <dcordes> POVaddct: what does this tell me now?
[10:58] <dcordes> POVaddct: i got several entries there
[10:58] <POVaddct> dcordes: but not all of them would be accessible from the internet
[10:59] <FX|Laptop> Hey if I wanted to see if ndiswrapper was installed I would run "whereis ndiswrapper" in a terminal right?
[10:59] <POVaddct> dcordes: you can some port numbers, right?
[10:59] <Aspic> its part of the source (afaik anyway - it was with mine).  you may need to dl some libraries though.  all of them are on apt-get
[10:59] <POVaddct> dcordes: 22 should be among them
[10:59] <mooky> chaps - do any of you have a local repo of the ubuntu repo's ?
[10:59] <ewin> Does anyone have any experiance sharing a net connection with a palm device? Kind of at my wit's end working with a zire 72.
[10:59] <ewin> Object push works, at least.
[10:59] <Satansamael> moinsen
[10:59] <cpk2> Wiseguy: Applications/Preferences/Session go there to change splash screen maybe?
[10:59] <dcordes> POVaddct: i see four tcp connections and no 22 port
[11:00] <ewin> Via bluetooth, btw.
[11:00] <POVaddct> dcordes: then change --inet to --inet6
[11:00] <maxflax> Aspic, what libaries. not only ncurses?
[11:00] <pooru> hey anyone know why when exciting a 3dapp, such as q3, i get stuck in the resolution the game was running in?
[11:00] <Aspic> maxflax: one of the qt ones as well.  i'll have a quick look
[11:00] <dcordes> POVaddct: how can i do this?
[11:01] <pooru> is there like a way to refresh my screen or somehting?
[11:01] <eck0> Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface
[11:01] <eck0> -> License accepted.
[11:01] <POVaddct> dcordes: netstat --inet6 -nap | grep LISTEN
[11:01] <eck0> -> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you li
[11:01] <eck0>    ke the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel f
[11:01] <maxflax> Aspicic, qt?
[11:01] <eck0>    rom the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: Yes)
[11:01] <eck0> -> No matching precompiled kernel interface was found on the NVIDIA ftp site;
[11:01] <eck0>    this means that the installer will need to compile a kernel interface for
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> pooru: for what reason are you trying to do this
[11:01] <eck0>    your kernel.
[11:01] <eck0> any way to fix that?
[11:01] <mooky> I'm trying to work out how much space to allocate to hold a local mirror to the ubuntu repo's ?
[11:01] <mooky> anyone got experience
[11:01] <pooru> because my screen is like 20x to big for my monitor when i exit quake
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> everyone
[11:01] <eXceLibrius> I need some help ........ i have very big problems with installation on my AMD64 .......
[11:02] <bbrazil> mooky: i386+source all components is ~ 30GB
[11:02] <boink> !ask
[11:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:02] <eXceLibrius> how to get 32 bit support to ?
[11:02] <maxflax> VanessaE, what do you use? menuconfig or xconfig? what favor the other one?
[11:02] <VanessaE> menuconfig
[11:02] <mooky> bbrazil ok - so I'm looking at about 90GB for x86 x86_64 and sparc
[11:02] <bbrazil> mooky: source is shared
[11:02] <Schmuk> Hi
[11:02] <VanessaE> I never really liked Xconfig...seemed too busy for me
[11:02] <mooky> so a bit less - but its just a good rough estimate
[11:02] <eXceLibrius> any help for me ?
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> pooru: oh...the only thing I can think of is "ctrl+alt+backspace" although this restarts the X display maybe this will help....try playing the game in a window
[11:03] <POVaddct> dcordes: is your linux pc behind a nat router?
[11:03] <pooru> Paddy_EIRE: ok cool, thanks i'll give that a try
[11:03] <maxflax> VanessaE, lol.. busy.. how do u mean.. to much bla bla in it? :D
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[11:03] <bbrazil> mooky: if you have 90, it'll be no problem. But 70 would probably do
[11:03] <VanessaE> yeah
[11:03] <mooky> super - thanks
[11:03] <VanessaE> the window seemed too crowded
[11:03] <mooky> insite was appriciated
[11:04] <ubuntu__> BlueEagle, u here?
[11:04] <VanessaE> but then again, that was, if I remember right, back when X was still in the 3.3 series :)
[11:04] <Leone> BlueEagle,  here?
[11:04] <VanessaE> man moons ago, anyway
[11:04] <maxflax> VanessaE, what is the command line I run to compile the kernel.. when I have an own .config and don't want to use oldconfig?
[11:04] <roberts> I have an external HDD that has NTFS on it... what's a good command to safely erase it and put FAT32 on it?
[11:04] <VanessaE> just make -j2 or so
[11:05] <POVaddct> VanessaE: oh yes, when each gfx card would need its own X server binary :)
[11:05] <VanessaE> (or -j4 or so if you have two cores/processors)
[11:05] <POVaddct> VanessaE: those were the days..
[11:05] <VanessaE> heh
[11:05] <eXceLibrius> please some help for me ...... i have probelms with my AMD64 Ubuntu 6.06 dapper & installation on it ....... i want to install Wine , but there are problems ... any help please ........
[11:05] <jimmypw> roerts: you'll need to re-partition it
[11:05] <RMorris84> im trying to install ubuntu dapper on a friends pc and its not letting the live cd boot up, it says PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:02.0
[11:05] <ewin> Do I need to setup rfcomm to do ppp via bluetooth to a palm device?
[11:05] <Leone> i cant connect to internet with my ubuntu , i tried a lot of commands :S:S:S:S
[11:05] <VanessaE> eXce: use the 32 bit version of ubuntu.
[11:05] <VanessaE> wine and other 32-bit progs are still tricky to use in AMD64.
[11:06] <jimmypw> Leone: is a default gateway set up type ipconfig
[11:06] <trappist> it's all about the 32bit chroot in amd64 ubuntu
[11:06] <Leone> jimmypw,  i tried a lot of times
[11:06] <Leone> i am now in my ubuntu live cd
[11:06] <roberts> POVaddct: I can't imagine the perspective you must have on the evolution of technology... it's difficult for me to think what it would be like to know as much as I do now (or more) all the way back then.
[11:06] <VanessaE> robert:  mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever should do it
[11:06] <eXceLibrius> if i will chroot 32 bit, 32 bit applications will work on my amd64 ?
[11:06] <Aspic> maxflax: trying getting libqt3-mt-dev.  you might need others but that seems the main one
[11:06] <VanessaE> (/dev/whatever being say, /dev/sda1 or whatever the partition/device is)
[11:06] <trappist> eXceLibrius: yes
[11:07] <jimmypw> Leone: open a terminal and type ipconfig also is your network using DHCP?
[11:07] <trappist> eXceLibrius: there's a howto for it somewhere
[11:07] <trappist> !chroot
[11:07] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:07] <trappist> there it is
[11:07] <pike_> roberts: example: mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[11:07] <eXceLibrius> trappist yes i have found that manual
[11:07] <VanessaE> wtf?
[11:07] <dcordes> POVaddct: yep NAT here
[11:07] <Leone> jimmypw, now i am in live cd, no prob
[11:07] <trappist> I run all my wine stuff (cedega etc), firefox, xine, mplayer and so on from the chroot
[11:07] <eXceLibrius> i hate being the newbie in linux .... :P
[11:07] <RMorris84> im trying to install ubuntu dapper on a friends pc and its not letting the live cd boot up, it says PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:02.0  can someone give me some insight of why its not working
[11:07] <angelo> hello all! i was wondering how to play kanagram in italian... the program is translated but the anagrams are in english... any hint ?
[11:07] <POVaddct> roberts: oh well i don't remember everything :)
[11:07] <VanessaE> did anyone else see a bunch of unicode in abhinay's quit msg just now?
[11:08] <POVaddct> dcordes: ah, thats why i don't see any other open ports
[11:08] <pike_> RMorris84: likely you need just need to add a boot option at grub. id look in ubuntuforums for the specific error
[11:08] <roberts> pike_: Would the mkfs.vfat command handle erasing the existing NTFS partition then formatting with FAT32?
[11:08] <POVaddct> dcordes: you would have to forward them on the router
[11:08] <jimmypw> Leone: you may need to enable DHCP in the network setting in system settings in your ubuntu system
[11:08] <secretlondon> angelo: I think you can download extra language packs
[11:08] <pike_> roberts: yeah. just like a quick format in windows
[11:08] <RMorris84> pike_: even on the live cd?
[11:08] <dead1ock> sup?
[11:08] <maxflax> Aspic, but i only need the qt if i want to use xconfig?
[11:09] <dcordes> POVaddct: but i only want to have the ssh working. 22 is allready forwarded to my local ip
[11:09] <angelo> secretlondon, i can't find any
[11:09] <VanessaE> off to pick up my husband, bbl.
[11:09] <Leone> jimmypw, wait me a min please
[11:09] <POVaddct> dcordes: so if you just forward port 22 to your linux machine, no other services will be available to the internet
[11:09] <dcordes> ja
[11:09] <RMorris84> it says its booting the linux kernel and the screen just went away after like 10 minutes, so i dont know if it is just being really slow or if something is wrong...
[11:09] <maxflax> VanessaE, do I need the bin86 package to compile the kernel?
[11:09] <eXceLibrius> started chroot - ing
[11:09] <dcordes> POVaddct: that's what i want right? or are there any other services required by ssh?
[11:09] <VanessaE> max: no, just build-essential and libncurses5-dev
[11:09] <feross> hey anyone know a command to link all files under a directory structure to somewhere else.. my problem is that I have all of my wallpaper images under /home/feross/cabinet/wallpapers/  and many directories under that.. I want to place a symlink to everything in there under /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:10] <VanessaE> bbl
[11:10] <CientificoLoco> helo everybody I have installed java but my firefox doesnot detec the plugin what do I have to do?
[11:10] <POVaddct> dcordes: depends. for me, ssh would be sufficient. can do remote login as well as file transfer over ssh.
[11:10] <eXceLibrius> hmmm this looks like very long procces
[11:10] <jrib> CientificoLoco: was I helping you the other day with this?
[11:11] <jove> feross: is there anything else in /usr/share/backgrounds?
[11:11] <pike_> RMorris84: alt-ctrl-f1 doesnt get you a login right?
[11:11] <LjL> CientificoLoco: read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-7f353d2f3fb1a09aac09cf1caee565e897319306
[11:11] <feross> jove: yeah, just the default background images
[11:11] <CientificoLoco> jrib, yeah I remember but still I have not done that my firefox works well
[11:12] <RMorris84> pike_: no its trying to boot the ubuntu live cd, and it goes past mounting and all that then it goes to a place screen with that error i placed earlier and then just sits there...
[11:12] <CientificoLoco> LjL, Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu (Ubuntu only), or install the sun-java5-plugin package.  I HAVE DONE
[11:12] <jove> ah well...I was going to suggest creating a link called backgrounds in /usr/share from ~/cabinet/wallpapers
[11:12] <POVaddct> dcordes: if you cannot answer my query, you are probably not registered
[11:12] <jrib> CientificoLoco: didn't the java test page say you had java?
[11:12] <jove> feross: ln -s /home/feross/cabinet/wallpapers /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:12] <maxflax> Aspic, Do I have to remove the link to the linux directory and make a new link to the new kernel or that isn't needed anymore?
[11:12] <michael> can someone help me get my networking running, i'm pretty sure it's a dns issue, but i don't know how to fix it
[11:13] <leakd>  n8
[11:13] <michael> resolv.conf says not to edit it, that it will be overwritten
[11:13] <jrib> CientificoLoco: http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml or was this someone else?
[11:13] <jove> feross: copy the default backgrounds to your home directory...then delete /usr/share/backgrounds, then create the link
[11:13] <pike_> RMorris84: might try updating the bios on comp..
[11:13] <gneral> can we use "solaris.bZ" on ubuntu ?
[11:13] <jimmypw> michael: whats wrong?
[11:13] <feross> jove: well you might be on to something.. I just want the glslideshow to pick up all of those images. I'm not sure if it will recourse through the directories because under wallpaper/ I have space, animals, cartoons etc .. but I'll give it a shot
[11:13] <CientificoLoco> jrib, yeah but when I open pages that needs java It does not work
[11:14] <RMorris84> pike_: last time i did such a thing, i ended up with a doorstop of a laptop
[11:14] <jrib> CientificoLoco: what is an example page?
[11:14] <jove> feross: I use gkrellm for that...it uses a database of image filenames
[11:14] <axa-axa> If I make an "custom application launcher" on panel, which executes some command, how can I make launcher change its icon when it executes it?
[11:14] <michael> jimmypw: i can't ping anything.  i have no dns
[11:14] <pike_> RMorris84: or try turning acpi off at grub
[11:14] <jimmypw> can you ping ip address'?
[11:14] <michael> i set it in resolv.conf but apparently that file gets overwriettin
[11:14] <Ranbee> what's the easiest way to configure qt app fonts from ubuntu? i don't like the way they look :(
[11:14] <RMorris84> pike_: how do i do that when trying to boot from the live cd?
[11:15] <michael> jimmypw: i don't have any outside my network to try, but i'm pretty sure i could
[11:15] <jbroome> michael: 4.2.2.2
[11:15] <CientificoLoco> jrib, http://mx.play.yahoo.com/games/login?page=pl
[11:15] <jbroome> is an easy ip address to remember when you need to see if dns is FUBAR
[11:15] <jimmypw> Mchael: 64.233.187.99 - google
[11:15] <pike_> RMorris84: ive never used the livecd so im not sure what youre looking at but acpi=off might work
[11:15] <michael> jimmypw: yeah that works
[11:15] <jrib> CientificoLoco: do you have a page that doesn't require a login?
[11:16] <flodine> anyone use Eterm that can help
[11:16] <CientificoLoco> jrib, sorry
[11:16] <POVaddct> jbroome: wow, i didn't know that ip exists :)
[11:16] <feross> jove: oh, hmm well I could mess around with gkrellm.. I setup gdesklets but don't turn it on very often so it doesn't use up cpu cycles ;/ .. is gkrellm bloated? probably less than gdesklets I'm sure.
[11:16] <michael> jimmypw: and that works too
[11:16] <jimmypw> michael: why can't you set the DNS servers in the GUI,
[11:16] <CientificoLoco> jrib, http://elcerebro.com/chat/
[11:16] <michael> jimmypw: i have no gui.  i'm trying to install that now.
[11:16] <michael> jimmypw: but i can't install without network
[11:16] <jimmypw> michael: oh are you usig server version?
[11:17] <jove> feross: no gkrellm doesn't seem bloated at all...I use it for quite a bit of monitoring and it doesn't load the cpu noticeably at all
[11:17] <michael> jimmypw: yeah
[11:17] <jimmypw> michael: ok thats good i did this the other day. one second ill check
[11:17] <michael> jimmypw: okay thanks
[11:17] <jove> feross: according to top it uses 0.7% cpu
[11:17] <jrib> CientificoLoco: I see, can you pastebin the contents of the page your browser shows when you do 'about:plugins' in your url bar?
[11:18] <axa-axa> Is there anu applet for connecting to internet which executes arbitrary commant for connecting and disconnecting?
[11:18] <axa-axa> I'm using "sudo pppoe-start" and "sudo pppoe-stop" from console to connect to internet, but would like to have an applet for that.
[11:18] <sohaibma> can anyone please give me the package list (and links) for vlc media player, so i can download it in winxp.
[11:18] <feross> jove: ok, I'll look into it, thanks. It would still be cool to know how to mass link stuff. I think it would have to be a combination find -exec ln or something like that.
[11:18] <CientificoLoco> jrib, where is the paste bin=
[11:18] <MrObvious> Does anyone know how to get gstreamer to play mp3s? I'm trying to use songbird and it requires gstreamer. oggs work great.
[11:19] <LjL> sohaibma: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:19] <MrObvious> I did what was outlined in the wiki as far as installing the packages for mp3s.
[11:19] <jimmypw> michael, it appears that i just put the nameservers in to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:19] <jrib> CientificoLoco: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:19] <jove> sohaibma: do a google for 'vlc homepage' they have a list
[11:19] <alesdoc> Hi. Can i modify the trip point of my cpu-fan? I'd like to let it start aroung 45
[11:19] <jimmypw> michael: when does it get overwritten? on reboot?
[11:19] <sohaibma> jove: ok ill have a look
[11:19] <CientificoLoco> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28156/
[11:20] <michael> jimmypw: not sure, i just know they got overwritten.  that's where i put them too.  but it says at the top that resolv.conf gets overwritten
[11:20] <jrib> CientificoLoco: is this it?  there is nothing else lower on the page?
[11:20] <eXistenZ> how can I clean all the .deb packages in the cache?
[11:20] <jimmypw> michael: it doesn't say that in my file, what version o ubuntu are you using?
[11:20] <LjL> eXistenZ: apt-get clean
[11:21] <eXistenZ> thanks
[11:21] <CientificoLoco> jrib, thes is not.
[11:21] <michael> dapper
[11:21] <jrib> CientificoLoco: sorry, what do you mean?
[11:22] <CientificoLoco> jrib, there is nothing else
[11:22] <black_13> what package gives me kdevelop
[11:22] <jbroome> !info kdevelop
[11:22] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in any distro I know
[11:22] <LjL> !info kdevelop3
[11:22] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[11:23] <jbroome> ahh
[11:23] <jimmypw> michael: is DHCP enabled?
[11:23] <black_13> i tried apt-get install kdevelop3 and i got nothing
[11:23] <jbroome> is your universe repo uncommented?
[11:23] <servidas> hm
[11:23] <MetaMorfoziS> Firefox 2.0 is out!!! http://getfirefox.com
[11:23] <servidas> Hooray.
[11:23] <jimmypw> yayayayayayayayay
[11:23] <jbroome> omg i just peed a little
[11:24] <servidas> heh
[11:24] <jrib> CientificoLoco: ok very strange how java works on the test page.  pastebin result of: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[11:24] <dcordes> lmao kbroome
[11:24] <black_13> oops for got to add univese
[11:24] <jbroome> that would do it
[11:24] <sohaibma> jove: i tried it, didn't show up anything.
[11:25] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I installed firefox just for my user and I installed java for all users
[11:25] <esa> tuulikki
[11:25] <sohaibma> jove: can you try it in terminal or synaptic packet installer and give me the links
[11:25] <esa> rane
[11:25] <kmaynard> hit it with a hammer
[11:25] <CientificoLoco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28157/
[11:25] <CientificoLoco> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28157/
[11:26] <jrib> CientificoLoco: readlink -f $(which firefox)
[11:27] <CientificoLoco> jrib, /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:27] <jrib> CientificoLoco: ah, that's why, you must link your plugins from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/.  What are you using a version of firefox in /opt instead of the ubuntu version?
[11:27] <jrib> CientificoLoco: s/what/why
[11:27] <sohaibma> can anyone please get me the links for vlc packages from terminal or synaptic, so i can download it in winxp.
[11:28] <jrib> sohaibma: someone already did: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:28] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I do not have idea how to do it?
[11:28] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I do not have idea how to do it
[11:28] <madc> sohaibma, packages.ubuntu.com
[11:28] <madc> ehh to slow ;P
[11:28] <jrib> CientificoLoco: the easiest way would be to use the ubuntu version instead of the /opt version
[11:28] <sohaibma> jrib, so i just search vlc there and it will show up all the packages.
[11:29] <sohaibma> jrib, even the common ones.
[11:29] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I do not hav e idea
[11:29] <POVaddct> g'nite people
[11:29] <jrib> sohaibma: it should show you the vlc package, then you will have to follow the dependencies as well
[11:29] <jrib> CientificoLoco: how did you install it to /opt?
[11:29] <joona> hmm, does anyone know cli command for changing active X
[11:29] <ianmacgregor> Where can I find some RSS feeds for Ubuntu?
[11:29] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I read a how to..
[11:29] <axa-axa> Is there anu applet for connecting to internet which executes arbitrary commant for connecting and disconnecting?
[11:30] <axa-axa> I'm using "sudo pppoe-start" and "sudo pppoe-stop" from console to connect to internet, but would like to have an applet for that.
[11:30] <jrib> ianmacgregor: fridge.ubuntu.com
[11:30] <Stargazers> Hi, What can be problem "/usr/bin/dpkg: /usr/bin/dpkg: cannot execute binary file "
[11:30] <jrib> CientificoLoco: please join me in #ubuntu-classroom, there will be less traffic there and we can talk in more detail
[11:30] <Stargazers> Just installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake.
[11:30] <ianmacgregor> jrib: Thank you :)
[11:31] <CientificoLoco> jrib, ok I will be there in .. now je!
[11:31] <paras> channel, how do i check it my hard disk is ATA or SATA?
[11:31] <sohaibma> jrib, thanks alot
[11:31] <CientificoLoco> jrib, I am over there..
[11:32] <jimmypw> paras: unless its a beefy server 9 times in 10 its probably going to be sata
[11:32] <LjL> paras, if it has a cable that's about 5 centimeters fat, it's not SATA.
[11:32] <Stargazers> Any ideas?
[11:32] <madc> paras, you could open the case and look, SATA will be a thin cable about 1.5cm wide, ATA will be 8cd wide
[11:32] <cablesm102> I recently filed a bug. SOmeone commented that they had also experienced the bug. How does the status get changed to confirmed?
[11:32] <jrib> CientificoLoco: I don't see you
[11:32] <rag> logitech quickcam somebody have
[11:32] <rag> ?
[11:32] <jrib> CientificoLoco: /join #ubuntu-classroom      should do it
[11:32] <paras> jimmypw, madc i am using a dell laptop so.. will not be able to open it
[11:33] <jimmypw> lol its going to be sata
[11:33] <freebse> black13: rag: i do
[11:33] <madc> paras, goto the dell website and enter your service tag it will list your spec.
[11:33] <black_13> what was that?
[11:33] <madc> jimmypw, what if its 2 or 3 years old?
[11:33] <madc> goto the dell website enter the service tag number and check for sure.
[11:33] <rag> freebse: say me
[11:33] <freebse> black13: sorry was not for you mate
[11:33] <black_13> no problem
[11:33] <black_13> i just saw my name
[11:34] <michaels_> any "clean" way to get Firefox 2 on Dapper yet? ("clean" as in through Ubuntu's update or through FF's, as opposed to manually installing)
[11:34] <boink> michaels_: no
[11:34] <freebse> black_13: off course I would react the same way
[11:34] <madc> michaels_, just wait a few days till it hits the repo.
[11:34] <michaels_> kthx boink madc
[11:34] <njal> i have a grub problem, I can't work out what partition windows is on
[11:34] <eXistenZ> will ff2 be included in edgy?
[11:34] <boink> hope so
[11:34] <jimmypw> paras, if you're in windose you can go to computer manager and they'll tell u exactly what type of HD ur using
[11:34] <madc> eXistenZ, it already is
[11:34] <Stargazers> Hope so not...
[11:34] <michaels_> and when is Edgy gonna launch anyhow?
[11:34] <Stargazers> Opera <3.
[11:35] <eobanb> michaels_, in two days i believe.
[11:35] <madc> michaels_, when its ready ;)
[11:35] <boink> 26 october
[11:35] <paras> madc, it says sata, but i just want to make sure... ubuntu detetcs as sda but debain says ata disk
[11:35] <boink> but edgy won't be "LTS" like dapper is
[11:35] <LjL> !schedule | michaels_
[11:35] <ubotu> michaels_: Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:35] <paras> jimmypw, i want to check with ubuntu
[11:35] <madc> paras if it says sata then its sata, for the most part linux treats sata as scsi so sda is fine.
[11:36] <sidny4> yay
[11:36] <njal> on a system with ubuntu dapper on a primary sata drive then edgy and xp on an ide device what partition would windows be on?
[11:36] <paras> madc, ok.. does a normal ata hard disk comes as hda, hdb ? i am usins 6.06 with i686 kernel
[11:36] <LjL> yes paras
[11:36] <madc> yes normal ata/ide is hda, hdb
[11:36] <sidny4> njal, more than likely it will be hda1
[11:37] <LjL> sidny4, no, /dev/hda1 is possibly the filename for a partition, not for a drive
[11:37] <sidny4> SATA is on sda, much like a usb flash drive
[11:37] <njal> sidny4: Ok so that SHOULD be (hd1,0) right?
[11:37] <paras> LjL,i was surpised to see that i checkd once with debian etch CD and it detects as hda instead of sda
[11:37] <esa> tuulikki
[11:37] <LjL> sidny4, oh sorry, i thought you were replying to the discussion with paras
[11:38] <sidny4> njal, what are you trying to do?
[11:38] <njal> sidny: In all honesty have a tripple boot system, with stable ubuntu on the primary sata drive and two other systems on the IDE
[11:39] <njal> BUT it's not playing right
[11:39] <sidny4> how do you mean?
[11:39] <sidny4> it won't boot the other two OS's?
[11:39] <njal> sidny4: Well for example the sata drive is set to master and the ide set to slave yet my system has set the sata drive as (hd1,0)
[11:39] <njal> and the slave as (hd0,0)
[11:40] <njal> For a start they are the wrong way around
[11:40] <sidny4> ok, and you're trying to configure the bootloader
[11:40] <njal> sidny4: Yes, now i can boot into the sata drive fine
[11:40] <njal> but since the normal grub method goes out the window i am at a loss
[11:41] <njal> I have tried to set windows to both (hd0,0) and hd(0,1) and it's not booted
[11:41] <sidny4> ok, when you're in ubuntu, can you see the other drive/partitions?
[11:42] <rag> how toLogitech webcam
[11:42] <njal> cat /boot/grub/device.map shows me my two hard drives but not the partitions
[11:43] <devilz> hi does anyone know how to disable PGP signature in thunderbird mail?
[11:43] <black_13> i am having problems install the qt3-examples : http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/VZD6on47.html
[11:43] <dcordes> POVaddict: you still around?
[11:43] <black_13> i getting issued with unment dependecies
[11:43] <sidny4> does it have (hd0) /dev/hda (hd1) /dev/sda
[11:44] <sidny4> or vice versa
[11:44] <Arrick> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:44] <njal> sidny4: (hd0) /dev/hdd (hda) /dev/sda
[11:44] <njal> erm
[11:44] <njal> sorry
[11:44] <njal> (hd0) /dev/sda
[11:44] <Arrick> where can I paste a jpeg?
[11:44] <njal> no
[11:45] <Subhuman> Arrick, phpto
[11:45] <Subhuman> Arrick, www.imageshack.us
[11:45] <Arrick> Subhuman, link?
[11:45] <Arrick> thanks
[11:45] <njal> (hd0) /dev/hdd (hd1) /dev/sda that's correct
[11:45] <Subhuman> or www.photobucket.com but you have to sign up.
[11:46] <nahoj> hello everyone!
[11:46] <gneral> hello :)
[11:46] <joona> Does anyone have an idea if there's a cli command for changing active X screen?
[11:46] <nahoj> just showing my friend here the ubuntu-spririt...
[11:46] <nahoj> =)
[11:46] <eobanb> i wonder how well xubuntu 6.10 would run on a 300 MHz PII with 256 MB of RAM and a 5 GB hard drive... anyone?
[11:47] <nahoj> eobanb: perfect
[11:47] <Hapo> I think it runs perfectly
[11:47] <tannerld> how do I upgrade to Firefox 2 from 1.5.2?
[11:47] <Hapo> it's quite fine even with 128 MB of RAM
[11:47] <sidny4> hmm
[11:47] <LjL> tannerld: wait some days, we'll probably have a package soon.
[11:48] <sidny4> you seem to be missing an a-c
[11:48] <tannerld> LjL: Aww... You mean I can upgrade now? :(
[11:48] <eobanb> nahoj; good to hear
[11:48] <LjL> tannerld, you can. you probably shouldn't, though.
[11:49] <sidny4> !grub
[11:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:49] <kjaer> I have som problems with graphviz-cairo and edgt.
[11:49] <kjaer> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm: 11: dot: not found
[11:49] <kjaer> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--remove):
[11:49] <kjaer>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[11:49] <kjaer> Is this common ?
[11:49] <njal> I had a look at the howto's etc, but it's hard to follow when the normal way of using it, doesn't work
[11:50] <greenman> anyone have any idea how to keep something from overwriting the resolv.conf file?
[11:50] <jimmypw> hi again michael
[11:50] <jimmypw> greenman: chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:50] <greenman> jimmypw: hi.  i
[11:51] <LjL> greenman: that "something" is probably the resolvconf package. i solved that problem by removing it, but i'm not sure that would be the recommended solution... at all
[11:51] <greenman> i'm in ubuntu now :)
[11:51] <unregisterednoob> how can I keep nautilus from creating trash folders on removable media?
[11:51] <sidny4> njal, are you booted into ubuntu?
[11:51] <njal> sidny4: Yup, it's the ONLY thing i can boot
[11:51] <greenman> LjL: yeah, that's the one. what is that package for?
[11:51] <greenman> if i don't need it, it's gone.
[11:52] <woland_> can you do a server install with a regular ubuntu cd?
[11:52] <sidny4> ok, open up computer and see if it has the other drives there
[11:52] <jimmypw> just use the server distribution
[11:52] <woland_> i only have the regular cd
[11:52] <jimmypw> but yes you can install server apps on the desktop version of ubuntu
[11:52] <LjL> greenman, it's for "smart" handling of DNS servers. you probably should set your DNS server from some config file of resolvconf, rather than /etc/resolv.conf, in theory. for me, though, removing it created no problems. see "apt-cache show resolvconf" anyway...
[11:52] <jimmypw> apt-get should download the packages
[11:53] <njal> we have a DVD-RAM drive, the file system and the additional 80GB drive which should be split into two 40GB partitions for XP and edgy
[11:53] <greenman> LjL: okay.  well i have all my stuff on my home network hardcoded so i don't think i would need that.
[11:53] <greenman> i'll check out the show thingie though
[11:53] <black_13> how do if fix problems with with unment package dependecies
[11:53] <sohaibma> does anyone know the name of the software which is used to run Windows from inside linus, where can i get it?
[11:53] <meuserj> This may be a bit beyond this channel.. but I'll try anyway... I'm upgrading a machine from Dapper to Edgy... it uses LDAP for central authentication.  Upgrade went smoothly, but I can't get LDAP authentication to work... when I edit the pam.d and nsswitch files, I can authenticate to ldap users just fine, but as soon as I reboot, udev gets into a loop claiming it cannot contact the LDAP server...
[11:53] <njal> sohaibma: qemu
[11:53] <eXceLibrius> 32 bit chrooting on my 64 bit AMD means that i will get 32 bit aplications support ?
[11:53] <unregisterednoob> how can I keep nautilus from creating trash folders on removable media?
[11:54] <LjL> sohaibma, there are a few
[11:54] <unregisterednoob> sohaibma: qemu or vmware
[11:54] <woland_> jimmypw, but i don't want to install X
[11:54] <eXceLibrius> 32 bit chrooting on my 64 bit AMD means that i will get 32 bit aplications support ?
[11:54] <LjL> sohaibma: you can also use Wine to run single windows apps (well, some of them) inside linux.
[11:54] <jon_k> There any packages or program (or scripts) out there that can be set on cron to scan your logfiles for ext3 errors and mail to your E-Mail (using the local mail command works)?
[11:55] <njal> LjL: I also hear you can use qemu for application emulation, how true is that?
[11:55] <sohaibma> LjL, and there is another app. that can run windows software in linux?
[11:55] <Wiseguy> yo guys, is there someway i can manually turn the fan on my laptop on with ubuntu?
[11:55] <boink> VMWare .. Xen
[11:55] <jon_k> I could easily write one that just mails all output out, but I'd just like to have it mail if errors turn out true.
[11:55] <njal> sohaibma: bochs but qemu is better
[11:55] <Wiseguy> it doesnt sound like its on and its feeling kinda hot
[11:56] <jimmypw> weland_:then i recomend you download the server distriution it comes without x
[11:56] <greenman> there.  I think I'm set for now.
[11:56] <LjL> njal, it isn't. QEmu can emulate a PC, not a single Windows app. it can run a single Linux app, though, but that's only useful if you want to run a binary that was made for a different processor... (since qemu also emulates PPC and ARM)
[11:56] <greenman> thanks all of you for your help
[11:56] <unregisterednoob> sohaibma: he told you, Wine. I also recommend Cedega for games and Crossover for noobs
[11:56] <Quixotic> Hi, I justi nstalled a lamp server is it possible to get a gui on it so I can have an easier time doing stuff I am very new at this sort of thing.
[11:56] <njal> LjL: Ah fair enough, I thought it better to ask than say it does X, when it really didn't.
[11:57] <woland_> Quixotic, what would you need to do that requires a gui?
[11:57] <sohaibma> LjL, what is xine then?
[11:57] <njal> !xine
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <peacekpr> i sure hope ubuntu runs well on this 400 mhz, 128mb laptop
[11:57] <peacekpr> :)
[11:57] <Twister829> Have any of you tried to setup an extended desktop in Ubuntu to connect via S-Video cable to a TV?
[11:57] <jimmypw> Quixotic: i reccomend you download webmin [www.webmin.com]  that supports lots of servers
[11:57] <Quixotic> i am soppose to setup apache mysql php5 pearl and phpbb and then test some cgi thing
[11:57] <LjL> sohaibma: xine is a media library. nothing to do with windows
[11:58] <VanessaE> twister: my husband's box is set up that way
[11:58] <lucky> Hi, in edgy, what handles the multimedia key settings and how can i change them?
[11:58] <peacekpr> because i just obliterated my gentoo install which took a while to set up
[11:58] <Quixotic> and i read that lamp sets up most of that stuff on its own
[11:58] <Twister829> Any ideas on how to access that option?
[11:58] <unregisterednoob> sohaibma: um, xine is a media player. I think you mean Wine
[11:58] <woland_> Quixotic, at most you will require a text editor
[11:58] <Quixotic> but im not sure how to check if its there or how to install the rest
[11:58] <LjL> !tvout | Twister829
[11:58] <ubotu> Twister829: For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[11:58] <Quixotic> woland_ i havent nistalled anything accept what ever comes thru the ubuntu 6.06 default lamp installation
[11:58] <Twister829> I intel graph card
[11:59] <Twister829> I have intel graphics card
[11:59] <unregisterednoob> so - can anyone tell me how to turn the trash can function in nautilus off for only some devices?
[11:59] <jimmypw> I havent had much success with S-Vieo out but i think its a problem with my old tv
[11:59] <Twister829> jimmypw, where did you access the option to set up s-video out?
[11:59] <VanessaE> twister:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28162/
[11:59] <VanessaE> that's how it works on my husband's box
[11:59] <Twister829> Thanks
[12:00] <woland_> Quixotic, thats good. now try using nano. thats all you will need to edit the configuration files
[12:00] <VanessaE> (obviously that's only a stub, but that should be enough)
[12:00] <BenFairless> hey guys
[12:00] <LjL> Twister829: not sure, perhaps "apt-cache show i855-crt"