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[06:00] that is concurrent users? [06:00] At least a gig of ram, and a 3 ghz or better CPU [06:00] You'd be better with about 2 gigs of ram. [06:00] Yes, 40 concurrent. [06:00] I see [06:01] I am trying " sell the idea" to a school Im working with and the arguements are " well if go to wallmart the os is already loaded...etc.etc" my counterpoint has been trying to deal with management overhead..etc.. [06:02] what would be the advantage of ltsp..i gues... [06:02] is what im asking [06:03] Do they already have some older PC's? [06:03] Because if they do, then you can re-use them. [06:04] Rather than buying 40 $300 boxes, and have no server to tie them together, just 40 disconnected machines, [06:04] right [06:04] You could spend 1 x 3000 for one GOOD server, re-use the 40 old clunkers you've already got. [06:04] PLUS, thown into the bargain, you get: [06:05] and deployment of course is much easier [06:05] administration tools, edu software, networking, backups, etc etc etc. [06:05] sbalneav: consolemanager [06:05] exactly. [06:05] do you have time to talk about that? [06:05] how do you manage the backups on the master? [06:05] ie documents [06:05] etc [06:05] consolemanager? [06:05] sbalneav: the bit that tells which usb port goes to which seat [06:06] consolemanager?---has backup capabilities? [06:06] Ubuntu comes with a nice little backup utility now. If you;ve got a DVD or CD writer, you can just back up on those. [06:06] Burgundavia: You mean, localdevices? [06:06] ....what is it called?? [06:06] sbalneav: yes, that [06:07] sbalneav: davidz and I were talking in Boston [06:07] heh, it's called localdevices, not consolemanager. That's a bit I wrote. :) [06:07] about a general thingy to control that, whether it be thin clients, fusa or multiseat [06:07] davidz called it console manager [06:07] i see [06:08] I want to know whether such a system would be also safe to double up as a potential school tool server or as a file repository for non thinclients [06:08] sky123: we are talking about something differrent [06:08] or are we talking about a dedicated server [06:08] Burgundavia: yeah I got that [06:08] :) [06:08] sky123: Yes, edubuntu comes with Samba, so it can serve Windows boxes as well. [06:09] is that acting as a PDC? [06:09] or ?? [06:09] I don't beleive it acts as a pdc as of yet, I think that's on the speccing process to add for the next release. [06:09] not yet [06:10] needs samba4 [06:10] But it can act as a standalone server. [06:11] k...so the sahring of a public folder etc...is there.. [06:11] and using some of the native backup tools has the potential to backup to cdrom or whatever [06:12] yes [06:12] x the wahtever part...to what?? [06:13] Sorry, not understanding you? [06:14] What is it you're asking? [06:19] im sorry for not being clearer...but i guess im asking what is the tool for backing up to say cdrom or dvd or prescribed best methodology to back up the server...I could find little in google or wiki to actually do this. === JonathanFerguson [n=Jonathan@186.108.240.220.dynamic.dsl.comindico.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] [06:22] Well, I beleive the tool's called hubackup [06:22] it is [06:22] sbalneav: back to this console manager stuff [06:22] sbalneav: sky123: If you guys mean an NT4 domain, then yeah, normal samba3 can do that. [06:22] Hey whiprush [06:22] hubackup just does user stuff, not a whole server. [06:22] his scott! [06:22] Correct. [06:22] he'll want like backuppc or something for that [06:23] or use like mondoarchive [06:23] Burgundavia: what about it? [06:23] sky123: I just deployed a new server for this, what's your price range? [06:23] sky123: yeah whatever tool you're used to will work [06:23] well i was looking at around 1600 bucks [06:23] but that may be pushing it [06:23] yeah [06:23] pushing it price-wise? [06:24] yep [06:24] sbalneav: how much of that code is fairly generic? [06:24] sky123: RAM is key IMO. [06:24] i ebayed and trouble finding one...with say like 4gb of memory at a good price [06:24] I would shoot for an AMD64 machine with as much ram as you can cram in there. [06:24] right... [06:24] I'm confused. Are you talking about localdevices? As in, being able to plug USB, cdroms and floppies into thin clients? [06:24] sbalneav: yes [06:25] That's not called console manager. [06:25] sky123: have you looked at penguincomputing? [06:25] That's called localdevices. [06:25] sbalneav: sorry, that is what davidz was talking about [06:25] no not yet...just a bunch of supermicro stuff...or servers that go used at trade shows.....lol [06:25] yeah [06:25] And define, "fairly generic"? I.e. are yus asking if it can be made to run on other linux distros? [06:25] supermicro hell, been there myself. :-/ [06:26] lol [06:26] damn man....nothing is easy in education [06:26] ;) [06:26] indeed. [06:26] sky123: you could try the multi-faceted approach too [06:27] buy one server for like ... 20 clients. [06:27] and when people see how well it works [06:27] use that as justification for funds for another one [06:27] hmmm...yeah this is a good suggestion [06:27] because people won't believe the thin client thing [06:27] Burgundavia: Is that what you're wanting to know? [06:28] until they SEE it working [06:28] then the lightbulb goes off [06:28] i dont think they will ever be used concurrently all the time....but id rather NOT err on that lapse of judgement.... [06:28] sbalneav: well, userful does multiseat stuff. Our current crack is slightly insane [06:28] right [06:28] sbalneav: I am looking for more sane stuff ath could be made generic and pushed into something like HAL [06:28] sky123: no matter how big your box is you'll never have enough. [06:29] so the best thing to do is just to look at value vs. cost. [06:29] Sorry you think the stuff I wrote is "slightly insane". [06:29] sbalneav: he means his company's crack [06:29] not yours [06:29] I'm completely confused here. [06:30] sbalneav: no, our crack is insane [06:30] sbalneav: although i think you're insane, but that's for other reasons. :p [06:30] sbalneav: userful does multiseat X [06:30] Who's userful? [06:30] our current code patches the world to make local devices work [06:30] the company I work for [06:31] ah, is this a commercial product? [06:31] yes, but built on FC4 [06:31] that is not important right now [06:31] what is important is that you have written saner stuff to solve a similar problem [06:32] got another question...from the terminal clients themselves...if a kid pops in a usb pen with their doc or has a floppy..is there a way for them to load there docs or no....oh and sound?? [06:32] Then you may be interested in helping Warren Togami and Eric Harrison in the Fedora port of LTSP, which includes ltspfs. [06:33] perfect [06:33] sbalneav: we chatted in Montreal back in Nov of last year === Burgundavia is Corey Burger [06:33] sky123: upstream ltsp does, dunno if the new edubuntu does. [06:33] sky123: i'm here to learn too, heh. [06:33] :) [06:33] as of edgy, yes [06:34] awesome [06:34] but edgy is not the "stable" release yet...its still "rc"? [06:34] now somebody needs to get some open source code working on those sun rays [06:34] sky123: edgy is 3 days away [06:34] nice :) [06:34] so sound support and ability to use the client to load say a document is there??? [06:34] whoah [06:34] that is cool [06:35] via floppy or usb that is... [06:35] Burgundavia: i'm bringing three sunrays to mountain view with hopes of giving them away, and I gave ogra and I (think) sbalneav one. [06:35] score [06:35] i need one :) [06:36] those are Sun Boxes? [06:36] what chipset is in a sunray? [06:36] opteron [06:36] sun thin clients [06:36] whiprush: I've become convinced that what they chiefly need is a proper boot rom to them [06:36] serious? not sparc? [06:36] I can't get them to boot anything useful [06:36] i just saw one todau on ebay ...uhmmm VG something that opteron processors [06:37] sbalneav: I've been scouring google for years, I've yet not seen anyone be successful with them to do anything useful. [06:37] but I have plenty T100 hundreds here at home...$150 a pop for simple stuff...with sparc processors...lol [06:37] the sparc version..works well... nagios, cacti, etc.. [06:37] sbalneav: BUT ... Sun has "committed" to oss'ing the sun ray server software, so when that day comes, at least you guys will be all set to go to making it work, heh. [06:38] :) [06:38] they have an Ultrasparc II or something in them [06:38] thin client [06:38] they're basically useless without the sun server software. [06:38] so you get a binary blob [06:38] lovely [06:39] they are very popular with universities though === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [06:39] and most just warehouse them when they move off of solaris. [06:39] educational institutions often don't know what todo with them === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@unaffiliated/lotusleaf] has joined #edubuntu [06:39] todo with IT, rather [06:39] I got 60 for free and I have 300 more on tap for the cost of shipping. [06:39] and that's just me. [06:39] I am sure I'm not the only one. [06:40] Well, thin client booted out of the box. [06:40] I have a feeling that when sun open sources the stuff that someone will have ltsp working on it with a day or two. [06:40] Edubuntu testing going well. [06:40] sbalneav: any news from eric or warren on their fedora efforts? [06:41] whiprush: these are client versions ??? [06:41] sky123: ? [06:41] I haven;t heard anything as of late. I think jammcq may have been in touch. [06:41] whiprush: the sun stuff you have access to [06:41] sky123: sun sells these thin clients, but they're proprietary. [06:41] think closed sourced ltsp. [06:41] but they have promised to open source it [06:42] i saw this: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/linux_terminal_server?page=0%2C1 and the use of these sun rays [06:42] same thing?? [06:43] same idea [06:43] two incompatible implementations [06:43] you can use any PC with LTSP [06:43] if you use sunrays, you need to buy them from Sun. [06:43] and run their software on the server. [06:44] sky123: long story short, if you never end up using their client software and their proprietary hardware, then you're good. [06:44] lol [06:44] edubuntu CD and some old machines, and you'll be all set. [06:44] cool [06:44] I have 300 of these damn Sun things, and I am /hoping/ that someday it might work as well as LTSP/edubuntu. [06:45] they are just hardware devices [06:45] it cannot be that difficult [06:45] Well, getting near midnight here, heading to bed. [06:45] night all [06:45] sbalneav: nite dude === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [06:48] Halloween is almost upon us, and you know that that means: clean out your closet of those spare Ubuntu Ship-It CDs you may have, duct tape a Snickers bar to them if you have to, just give them out!! [06:49] Are these any good?? SUN FIRE V20Z DUAL OPTERON 248 [06:50] lotusleaf: lol, thats great [06:51] BonBonTheJon: =) [06:52] better yet the trick would be to hand them the winxp disk [06:53] no nutritional value [06:53] sky123: you got that kind of money? [06:53] who said i bought it ;) [06:53] sky123: I like your thinking :) [06:54] lol [06:54] hopefully Mark will the next version of ubuntu "doors" [06:54] that would just piss off the right people [06:55] sky123: I'd rather hand someone a clump of cow feces, at least that has some use, in the garden [06:56] hehe rofl [06:56] windows cd's make nice cup holder [06:56] or, I want to make a CD disco ball [06:56] only then al gore would be all over you for contributing to green house gases with methane release [06:57] or crow chasers...if you hang them from a string in the corn fields. [06:57] thats about it [06:58] or piss people off and ship them back to bill and melidina gates for their foundation for halloween....lol [06:58] ahh..such pent up anger.... [06:58] <------needs anti m$ valium === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [07:14] hey does someone know the difference between the xeon dp processors and one's that come in the server rack models?? === LinuxRetard [n=PupUser-@ip70-162-109-245.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:29] anyone adept at wireless and feeling helpful tonight? [07:29] LinuxRetard: your nick is a little offensive [07:29] lol [07:29] Edubuntu on two of my kiddies pcs. 1 works wireless...one doesn't. [07:30] same laptop?? [07:30] I am humble enough to admit my handicap [07:30] however, I find you nick a little offensive [07:30] please change it [07:30] yeah...considering it is an education channel...id have to agree [07:30] thanx anywayz === LinuxRetard [n=PupUser-@ip70-162-109-245.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #edubuntu [] [07:31] not the proper terminology.....change it...and i can help.... [07:31] oh well too l8 [07:31] Burgundavia: Id have to say you made the right call on that one... [07:31] sad he felt he had to leave [07:32] just had to change the name thats all...and i was more surprised..he didnt try the ubuntu channel..common topic [07:32] maybe needed ndiswrapper or something like that.. [07:32] oh well [07:32] life happens === tnnc [n=tnnc@66-168-80-105.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === tnnc [n=tnnc@66-168-80-105.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === lguerra [n=lguerra@200.119.32.214] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.221.224] has joined #edubuntu [08:32] is any one familiar with the loki installer? [08:33] willvdl: not really [08:33] what is the issue? [08:34] well I'm working with a content provider [08:34] They do data casting etc and provide offline snapshots [08:35] mainly static html and FLV [08:35] on windows they use installshield [08:35] but don't really have a linux install process. [08:35] right [08:36] gdebi is the way [08:36] so for Linux, they should be using Linux best practise, which is packaging === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [08:37] my first though was some kind of deb [08:37] data only debs are really easy to create [08:37] but they snapshots are large (possibly a few dvd's) [08:37] that is not an issue [08:38] okie [08:38] if they are concerned about cross distro stuff [08:38] alien is their answer [08:39] not really, mainly an ubuntu base [08:39] then don't worry about it [08:40] is gdebi also used to create the deb? [08:40] no [08:40] just for the installing [08:40] if they need help with packaging, there is help for that [08:40] MOTU can help them [08:41] right. I just need to make sure that whatever they do, the most tech-unsavvy teacher can still install it and will have aaall their dependencies (adobe,flash etc) sorted automatically [08:44] for that, they will need deb [08:44] anything else is a hack === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] wasnt expecting to be back... lets see if i hang around. *waves* === willvdl waves back === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-146-186-179.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:50] :) [08:51] hey RichEd-1 [08:52] hey Burgundavia :) [08:52] morning RichEd [08:53] hi willvdl : how is johannesburg ? [08:53] fruitfull [08:53] http://www.unescobkk.org/index.php?id=494 [08:54] http://www2.unescobkk.org/education/ict/v2_2/detail.asp?id=44787 [08:54] Go Phillipines [08:57] That is all great link info for the community area + the ones yesterday. [09:08] Burgwork, Highvoltage, thanks for the help === jinty [n=jinty@127.Red-83-50-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=mario@83-131-15-65.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [10:59] Burgundavia, console manager requires a networkable transport layer for hal that doesnt exist yet [10:59] thats far far in the future === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === EliasChalk [n=chatzill@adsl204.att.sch.gr] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.221.224] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-52-82-65-68-54.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === jelkner [n=jelkner@ffzrouter.yorktown.arlington.k12.va.us] has joined #edubuntu [12:26] Is there anything special you need to know to dist-upgrade to edgy? [12:27] will gksu "update-manager -c -d" work? [12:28] gksudo, but yes [12:28] cool! [12:28] thanks === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-130.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-130.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === ukubuntu [n=adrian@84-12-152-172.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-4-8.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@51.149.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [01:41] good afternoon [01:43] hey pips1 [01:43] got your email [01:43] will take a look alter ;) [01:43] :) === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-253.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-253.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:49] RichEd: ping [01:50] lguerra: pong === gsuveg [n=gabor@248-244.dyn-fa.pool.ew.hu] has joined #edubuntu === gsuveg [n=gabor@248-244.dyn-fa.pool.ew.hu] has left #edubuntu [] === pips1_ [n=philipp@51.149.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pips1_ [n=philipp@51.149.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [02:03] pips1, can I ask why the switch and the hub are no the other way round? [02:04] and secondly...what did yo udraw that in...it's ace :D [02:05] or are you pips1_ at the moment ;) === jelkner [n=jelkner@ffzrouter.yorktown.arlington.k12.va.us] has joined #edubuntu [02:06] yep [02:06] 1: are you talking about "device C" and "device D" in that question? [02:07] yes [02:07] 2: shhhh (it was done with MS visio) [02:07] hm, python chalenge is not very easy... [02:07] python chalenge? [02:08] *challenge [02:08] http://www.pythonchallenge.com [02:08] lucasvo, where are you? [02:09] step 3 [02:09] just began today === cbx33 is on step 2 === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:09] I figured that I need most network speed on the LTSP network, so that's why I used the gigabit switch (device d) to connect the edub. server with the thin client(s) [02:09] pips1_: don't you know DIA? [02:09] lucasvo: I do [02:10] pips1_: so why use visio :P [02:10] I just did an update to edgy. Everything worked like a charm on the server side [02:10] but i have a problem on the clients [02:10] but for me, it's currently the same problem as with photoshop/gimp... I work much more efficiently with the former :-/ [02:11] cbx33: why do you think that I should swop the hub and switch? [02:13] mount: 192.168.217.254:/opt/ltsp/i386 failed, reason given by server: permission denied [02:14] jelkner: are you doing an dapper -> edgy upgrade on an edubuntu server? [02:14] um....because security wise and capability wise [02:14] pips1_: yes [02:15] you want the switch to be as far towards the source as possible === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:16] cbx33: regarding "as far towards the source as possible", well, I did that for the thin client (i.e. in the ltsp network, the edubuntu server is the source) [02:17] good evening [02:17] well....i'de prefer 2 machines off switch than one [02:18] pips1_: the client boot process proceeds through dhcp, gets and address, then can't mount /opt/ltsp/i386 [02:19] cbx33: yeah, I see your point. I just figured that a gigabit switch is a waste in a 10/100 network.. [02:19] its ok if you're going to cascade gigabit switches [02:20] jelkner: ic. I was just about to start a test for upgrading dapper->edgy on my test setup here... [02:20] jsgotangco: cascade them? [02:21] jsgotangco: maybe I should send you the network diagram I made... it'll make it easier to discuss :) Should I? [02:21] stack up switches [02:21] pips1_: sure email it to me [02:21] oki [02:21] jgotangco@ubuntu.com [02:22] jelkner: dit you get it working? looks like nfs isn't running [02:23] highvoltage: hey! [02:24] hey jsgotangco! [02:24] nice diagram! [02:25] everybody, stop saying that, it was done with MS visio ;-) [02:25] that's why the icon resources are nice [02:25] hehe [02:26] yeah, the icons look nice [02:26] ok so the problem is that Edubuntu's DHCP isn't being listend by clients? [02:26] pips1_: cool, i beat you to it ;-) [02:26] jsgotangco: yes, I think that is the problem [02:27] pips1_: any idea what i can do about the permissions problem? [02:28] jelkner: sorry, no [02:28] jelkner: it seems like NFS isn't running on your server [02:28] a few quick questions: does edubuntu have any quick sabayon howtos? does it need any? (it seems fairly idiot proof, but i havent used it yet ;)) [02:28] pips1_: ok it seems that you'll need to whip up a very custom dhcp conf file for eth0 because it seems eth1 is configured to listen as dhcp as well? [02:29] Kamping_Kaiser: not much [02:29] jelkner: have you tried to restart portmap, nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server in that order? [02:29] highvoltage: thanks, let me try to start it [02:29] jelkner: and what is in your /etc/exports, you should have an /opt/ltsp/i386 in there === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser hopes it gets OO.o support soon === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:30] highvoltage: there was nothing in /etc/exports it got overwritten [02:30] so first i add: [02:30] /opt/ltsp/i386 to /etc/exports [02:31] jsgotangco: I don't know if eth1 is configured to listen to listen as dhcp client... I suppose ogra can tell us? :-) [02:31] let me get the correct line for you... [02:31] then restart the services in the order you suggest [02:31] ok [02:31] jelkner: "/opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async) [02:31] " [02:31] thanks [02:31] let me try [02:31] pips1_: well eth0 is usually your default [02:31] jelkner: after adding that line you will need to restart nfs-kernel-server [02:31] and that's where dhcpd binds first when seen [02:32] and since eth1 seems to be the internet gateway, it shouldn't really conflict with eth0 since it doesn't listen to the dhcp broadcast of your applicance (as seen from your diagram) [02:33] lucasvo, I'm on lvl3 now [02:33] jsgotangco: hmm. right. well, to be honest, I can't remember what I did exactly when I installed edgy... I installed it many times, choosing different options in the installer.. maybe it would be best to start fresh [02:34] jsgotangco: what do you think? [02:34] pips1_: well you need dhcpd so that the client knows where to grab the boot image.... [02:35] you can just try isolating the whole edubuntu network first for testing then enable the other ethernet card [02:35] just so you can see if dhcpd actually worked [02:36] jsgotangco: what do you think is the best approach for my network problem. Should I re-configure my network appliances and try to get edubuntu's automatic network config to work? or should I leave my network appliances configured as they are, and change the edubuntu server config? [02:36] don't mess up your appliance since it already works [02:36]