=== apokryphos [n=francis@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] install went great, everything's good apart from evil arts again [12:39] http://sinecera.de/new_kubuntu_web_alltogethernow.png [12:39] ideas? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-63.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] kwwii: mmm [12:41] looks yummy [12:42] kwwii: I like bottom left [12:43] Riddell: ok, I will work on that one (cutting up the pics)...do you know if there is a way to test this? [12:44] in a web browser? [12:44] kwwii: bottom left is the best [12:44] not sure what you mean [12:44] Riddell: yeah, in a browser, I mean [12:45] kwwii: well put the images into the HTML and voila [12:45] hey kwwii, you wouldn't happen to know the best icc profile to use for color here...my crt and lcd are way different in color, and i would like to use the best match possible [12:46] nixternal: if you stick to srgb you will get at least consistently poor colors :p [12:46] heh [12:47] at least with Kubuntu i can set gamma, you can't do that with gnome (ubuntu or edubuntu) [12:47] nixternal: normally, you have to test things and have a good eye (or do it the right way and by a calibration instrument and software [12:47] yay [12:47] Riddell: in the bzr repo it is only php scripts [12:48] Riddell: perhaps saving the page locally from a browser or such [12:48] those pages look good btw kwwii! [12:48] kwwii: oh aye, just wget kubuntu.org [12:48] is that using #6569ae as a base? [12:49] nixternal: nope, that was too purple, I thought [12:49] I tried to stick to similar colors to the logo [12:49] the color you have there, is like my favorite color [12:49] lol [12:49] i like that grayish-blue look [12:50] im currently hooked on purple though ;) [12:50] hehe [12:50] i like the bottom left logo, with the top left background [12:51] nixternal: yes, it might not work but would be interesting to see [12:51] seems like everyone I ask likes the glossy logo better [12:51] im a sucker for the glossy look now [12:52] i can emulate it wiht gimp, but i suck at inkscape [12:52] i have all the of the glossy svg's and i mess with them trying to learn it, but i just can't do it [12:52] hehe [12:53] it is really simple, actually [12:53] well, i see how the gloss effect is achieved, i just don't know how to use inkscape [12:53] looking back at dapper, I wonder what happened to my eyes === nixternal just felt his blood sugar drop...i need food bad ;) [12:53] lol [12:53] man, I am soo happy that edgy turned out 100x better [12:53] +1 [12:54] edgy looks really good, to me dapper looked like every other kde release [12:54] we finally stand out among the other kde distros now [12:54] oh well...im goin' to go pig out...bbiab ;) [12:55] enjoy your feast [12:57] time for bed here...my wife leaves again tomorrow on business [12:57] :-( [12:59] nixternal: sorry, my teacher never brought his computer today... [01:01] gnite === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@80.14-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@216.220.239.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] Howdy [03:18] hi bddebian :) [03:18] Heya Jucato === Hobbsee [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:23] moin Hobbsee! :) [03:24] hey Jucato :) === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242375048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] re-format, re-partition, re-install... my theme of the day :) [03:34] hm, a Hobbsee [03:34] ajmitch: indeed. [03:34] ajmitch: it's a very scary hobbsee [03:34] Jucato: fun :) [03:34] hehehe [03:35] and brave sir robin bravely ran away... [03:35] lol :) [03:35] ajmitch: very smart, before he got attacked with the long pointy stick of DOOM [03:35] Hobbsee's long pointy stick of DOOM :) [03:35] I've met you, I know you're all talk :) [03:36] oooooh! a challenge :) [03:36] ok... gotta run :) [03:36] bye [03:36] ajmitch: oh really? :P === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.32] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [03:37] ajmitch: i must have just been feeling nice [03:39] nah === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@61.49.221.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:55] grrr. === gnomefreak runs and hides [03:56] i was connected on stevenk's machine, because i know my connection is a little dodgy - then his machine completely went down :P [03:56] well, the machine acting as the router, anyway === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=Jack@61.49.221.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.194.146] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@74.13.35.136] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:03] dist-upgrading from a fresh install of Dapper isn't that fast after all :P [07:10] hah [07:10] of course not [07:10] OO.o is taking its time downloading :) [07:10] I should have done a server install... then changed my sources.list to edgy, and installed kubuntu-desktop... === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.88.123] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:11] that can be difficult too [07:11] although you should be safe now [07:11] hehe... my last Edgy CD is still Knot 3... and it's not working :( [07:12] my last is knot 1 :P [07:12] heh but you're running Edgy already. :P [07:12] true === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242375048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:14] hey Seveas === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:15] ola === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242375048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@80.14-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=A8uGarUZ@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:29] nixternal: :) === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:44] excuse me, is it normal that I can't upgrade to Edgy from a fresh Dapper install unless universe is enabled? [10:45] oh well === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] Jucato: is universe enabled in your original dapper? [10:47] Jucato: and what's it dying over? [10:48] very fresh install, meaning no universe. just main and restricted. it's not dying over. but it's holding back packages when I dist-upgrade [10:48] what's it holding back? [10:48] I enabled universe, and it's installing and upgrading some more. but still holding back some.... [10:48] I'd pastebin it if I could... [10:49] kde-guidance, lots of python stuff, and xserver stuff... [10:49] 39 packages held back.. [10:50] I'll see if I can get into KDE [10:50] Jucato: is kubuntu-desktop installed? [10:50] err... didn't see it get removed... [10:50] hold on... [10:52] it was removed, but I can't install it because of unmet dependencies on amarok, hwdb-client-kde, kde-guidance-powermanager and language-selector-qt [10:53] Jucato: if you want to, you can try my hackish not very nice upgrade-script. http://ubuntu.lnix.net/kupgrader-ni.sh [10:53] Jucato: that was likely the reason; you should have kubuntu-desktop before dist-upgrading. [10:53] apokryphos: I didn't realize it was removed. because this is a fresh install of Dapper. [10:54] after installing Dapper, I immediately upgraded to Edgy [10:54] not immediately, evidently, otherwise it'd still be there =) [10:54] any idea what kbatterymonitor is? anyone tried it? [10:54] Jucato: get http://ubuntu.lnix.net/kupgrader.sh if you want a interactive version, that actually tells you what it will do, and give you a chance to cancel. [10:54] fdoving: ok thanks. [10:54] Hobbsee: for monitoring battery level for i.e. laptops? [10:55] apokryphos: install Dapper, reboot, logged into Kubuntu. logged out, logged into Console, used nano to edit sources.list. sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [10:55] that's all that I did [10:55] apokryphos: well, clearly. i was more wondering what it was built on, and if/how it would work with the guidance stuff in kubuntu [10:55] seeing as it's replacing the klaptopdaemon in kde4 [10:55] Jucato: didn't install *any* packages before that? [10:56] apokryphos: I said it like it is... nothing [10:56] interesting, I didn't know that. [10:56] Jucato: note, it is not very bandwidth friendly. it will first install kubuntu-desktop in dapper (if it's not installed) and then upgprade your system to edgy. [10:56] I'm installing amarok right now [10:56] fdoving: oh... [10:57] I find that very curious; and doesn't make much sense, since the install has it. [10:57] fdoving: I'm trying to install the unmet dependencies one by one... seems like amarok is installing now. hope the others will too === apokryphos shrugs [10:57] apokryphos: which is why I'm so puzzled. I thought a fresh install has more chances of upgrading successfully [10:58] any upgrade (unless you did non-ubuntu tinkering with it) should upgrade fine *if* you have kubuntu-desktop in first [10:58] Jucato: this problem, and the fact that upgrading from dapper to edgy is a pain, is why i created the script. pythons packages changing name, xorg video drivers changing name. [10:58] apokryphos: that is not true. [10:59] fdoving: if the packages changed their names it should still be handled by the metapackage [10:59] apokryphos: well, it isn't. [10:59] fdoving: any idea why? [11:00] not really haven't investigated much. the problem is that the dapper kubuntu-desktop depends on packages the edgy kubuntu-desktop conflicts with. or something like that. [11:02] apokryphos: I'm not lying. unless the Dapper install didn't install kubuntu-desktop, I really didn't do anything that removed it. [11:02] unless dist-upgrading itself removes kubuntu-desktop [11:02] Jucato: I believe you =), I'm just saying it's odd [11:02] dist-upgrading to edgy will remove kubuntu-desktop [11:02] fdoving: that shouldn't be a problem, unless a dist-upgrade forces the remove of kubuntu-desktop [11:02] apokryphos: it does. [11:03] which would be a major problem, really. A plain dist-upgrade can't really be successful, [11:03] I thought you didn't [11:03] :( [11:03] =) [11:04] unfortunately, I'm not willing to reinstall Dapper and upgrade to Edgy again for the sake of "testing it" again :P === apokryphos wonders if ubuntu-desktop has the same problem [11:04] I'm doing it in a chroot. [11:04] Jucato: you could've just downloaded an edgy ISO, you know :P [11:05] cool, let me know how it goes 8) [11:05] apokryphos: if I could, I wouldn't be subjecting myself to this torture... [11:05] apokryphos: they use the update manager, so it tends not to, i believe [11:05] Jucato: why do the current ones die? [11:05] Jucato: /topic [11:06] Hobbsee: but a lot of people still upgrade through dist-upgrade; it's the classic example of "easiest upgrade", would be a big shame if it didn't work for this release. [11:06] apokryphos: I have no blank CD's [11:06] not that I think there's still time to make changes; passed some time ago :P [11:07] Jucato: plenty of ways to install; /msg ubotu install [11:07] apokryphos: i so agree with you. about the big shame. and apparently no good solution to the problem, except installing every new package by hand, one by one. [11:07] apokryphos: true. it's a pity if all bugs arent fixed for release, but htat will never happen. ditto for a whole heap of wifi cards that worked in dapper, but not edgy [11:07] ok, I didn't put a lot of effort into researching about a non-CD install. reason: I presumed this would work [11:08] Jucato: a fair assumption [11:08] Hobbsee: it's good to get the big ones though :P [11:09] a tight schedule is tough; I guess these sacrifices are going to be there [11:09] after installing amarok manually, which installed a lot of python stuff, dist-upgrading still holds back, but installing kubuntu-desktop now installs 61 packages... [11:09] apokryphos: true that. everything ndiswrapper related wont work, due to them not accepting a 10 line patch. [11:09] brb while I take time to look away from my screen [11:09] Jucato: cool [11:09] apokryphos: and that patch was there about a month ago, and keybuk knew about it. [11:09] ;-O [11:09] Hobbsee: why, then? [11:10] apokryphos: NFI [11:10] apokryphos: er, wait, i do know - because he didnt want to commit a patch with only a month to release [11:10] :/ [11:10] commits were still being made a few days ago [11:11] apokryphos: yeah, but that one is rather drastic. well, anything to do with nm is rather drastic === rideout [n=rideout@71-208-14-13.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:14] apokryphos: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/42504/comments/48 i think [11:14] Malone bug 42504 in wpasupplicant "Cannot associate with unencrypted networks using bcm43xx chipset (ndiswrapper driver)" [High,Confirmed] [11:15] dang [11:17] that's not a biggie. the bcm43xx driver is there and it works. [11:17] for everyone else, it is worse :| [11:17] it's the rest of ndiswrapper stuff, which is also there somewhere [11:18] lol wtf!?!? I didn't confirm the installation of kubuntu-desktop! [11:18] 5 minutes of wasted time... === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:18] moin el! :) [11:18] afk again... [11:20] moin Jucato :) [11:21] heh [11:25] hey el! [11:26] hey Hobbsee :) [11:31] gah.. only core-devs can checkout sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.edgy/ [11:33] any core-dev that can make a tar.gz out of it form me? [11:33] s/form/for === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ is now known as Lure === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:46] mhb: I was used to using plain console IRSSI [11:47] Riddell: I am mostly used to irssi so konversation looks like the future ;) [11:48] sivang: :D it is the future! [11:53] Hobbsee: indeed :) [11:53] Hobbsee: How are you doing ? [11:54] sivang: good :) === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:02] hmm.... [12:04] strange... I can manually apt-get install the packages that are being held back in dist-upgrade [12:05] looks like doing aptitude dist-upgrade solves it... === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-050-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] Jucato: that's a known feature. When smart upgrade refuses to upgrade packages, you can always override it by explicitly apt-get install === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] ah at last... Edgy :) [12:23] Hobbsee, fdoving: finally got it to updgrade fully [12:23] Jucato: good. now do you know what to say when people ask how to upgrade from dapper to edgy? :) [12:24] fdoving: not really, coz I didn't even know what was wrong :) [12:24] I'm not sure if enabling universe did the trick lol [12:25] in the end, using aptitude dist-upgrade upgraded the held back packages... === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180104099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] Riddell: looking inside the kmplayer's 'admin' dir, I found there a file - 'debianrules'. I thought this folder is from the prestine source, or does KDE include stuff for a couple of distros to help them redistribute ? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-130.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-130.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:49] Hobbsee: excuse me, do you happen to know where the "Launch Feedback" settings have been relocated in Dapper? [12:50] Jucato: it's not in system settings. i use settings:/ to locate it. [12:50] fdoving: yes I know. it's still in KControl. I thought that the modules that have been removed from System Settings are those that could probably be accessed somewhere else [12:50] settings:/LookNFeel/kcmlaunch [12:51] (somewhere else besides settings:/ and KControl) [12:51] i don't know what the policy about system settings stuff is. [12:53] hm.. then that user's comment about Launch Feedback disappearing is valid... [12:56] it is. [12:56] :( [12:57] i think the advanced button in system settings should load kcontrol embedded. [12:57] I'm feeling a bit edgy now, really.... [12:59] sivang: debianrules is from KDE [01:00] oh well, too late to be asking questions I suppose... [01:02] Riddell: I see, cool [01:03] Riddell: didn't know they were so recognizing of their client distributions ;) [01:05] Jucato: nope. system settings, advanced would be my guess [01:05] Hobbsee: not there... thanks anyway [01:17] Duplicate "Default KOrganizer Resource" in Kontact (Edgy), is this a known bug? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-4-8.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.192.210] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-253.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-253.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@239.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:49] hi there [01:49] Lure: I included your debdiff to my packages for feisty in order to avoid multiple uploads and conflicts once I'll add the multimedia stuff === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-050-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:50] Tonio_: which debdiff? [01:50] for bug 67889 [01:50] ubugtu ? [01:50] Tonio_: that one should go to edgy-updated first (if mdz approves it) [01:51] Malone bug 67889 in kdebase "(edgy) KDE crashes when logout is canceled" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67889 [01:51] Lure: yes that's what I said in the comments [01:51] Tonio_: what is the status if Sime's patches - are they ready for edgy-updates at least? [01:51] we should provide a package update for edgy and I'll prepare the package for feisty [01:51] Lure: nope I don't think so [01:52] Lure: the problem with Sime's patches is that they cause an issue with a konqueror bug [01:52] and to avoid the konqueror bug I need to perform several updates (kdelibs, kdebase, kds) [01:52] so at the moment, edgy only includes the old version of sime's patches.... [01:52] that's not Sime's fault, but konqueror fault [01:53] Tonio_: ok, fair enough - it is not that critical bug anyhow [01:53] Lure: nope :) [01:53] Lure: so I'll keep packages with your debdiff on my repo waiting for feisty to come [01:53] Lure: the package will probably go in security no ? [01:53] or backport ? [01:54] Tonio_: edy-updates I think [01:54] Tonio_: edgy-updates actually, but Riddell need to discuss with mdz first [01:55] Lure: okay :) [01:56] what to perform if "sudo rm -rf" complains "operation not permitted " ? [02:02] what is it you're trying to delete? [02:03] work out if sudo is complaining or rm === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] Tonio_: I just noticed something with the No MP3 Support script in Amarok. If you say "No", it will still proceed with the script. Then if you Cancel the dialog box asking for your password (to enable multiverse), it will say that MP3 Support is now installed === Tonio___ [n=tonio@80.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio___ [n=tonio@80.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] Riddell: recovery mode helped, thanks === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] [02:15] gah... you were away when I asked something :) [02:16] Jucato: me ? [02:16] yes :) [02:16] Tonio_: I just noticed something with the No MP3 Support script in Amarok. If you say "No", it will still proceed with the script. Then if you Cancel the dialog box asking for your password (to enable multiverse), it will say that MP3 Support is now installed [02:17] Jucato: hu ?????, [02:17] strange....... [02:17] let me look at the script [02:17] ok... [02:18] that would be a problem in amarok [02:18] I'm not 100% confident with this Edgy install, though... went through a few hiccups earlier (upgraded from a fresh Dapper install...) [02:18] kdialog --yesno "Do you want to enable restricted software from multiverse?" [02:18] Jucato: should respect the yes/no answer [02:19] where is the script located? [02:19] oh... [02:19] I'll test it again from a real install of Edgy tomorrow... [02:19] fdoving: /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3 [02:19] Jucato: bah maybe the script is wrong, I don't know, but I tested it widelly and I don't remember that issue [02:20] Tonio_: I also don't remember encountering this when I tested it the first time it came out [02:21] Jucato: hum, Riddell's version or mine ? [02:21] Jucato: cause I rewrote the patch [02:21] yours [02:21] Jucato: okay [02:21] ah [02:21] Jucato: I didn't touch it since then, I only worked once on it [02:21] so maybe someone changed it I don't know, need to watch at the changelog [02:22] heh maybe it's just my fscked up install :) [02:22] Jucato: looks like imbrandon and Riddell touched it.... [02:22] well we'll test [02:23] Jucato: I'm not there today, but I'll test tomorrow [02:24] ok great :) [02:25] Tonio_: btw, who else can I ask about KubuntuKDEMedia stuff? use case actually [02:25] (don't want to bother you with it heheh) [02:26] Jucato: Sime ;) [02:26] ok. thanks! hope he's around [02:28] Jucato: I can confirm the issue [02:28] shit........ [02:28] oh... [02:28] Jucato: ah ! [02:28] that's amarok issue, not script :) [02:29] the dialog that has the problem is amarok's dialog, not script dialog [02:29] oh :) [02:29] Riddell: you're right on that point [02:29] Jucato: amarok launches the script whatever you respond [02:29] here is the issue === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:30] that script is hard to read. :| [02:31] silly Amarok not knowing when you mean "No" :P [02:31] Jucato: yup, you should report an amarok bug on launchpad [02:31] will do :) [02:31] that won't do much good, it needs to go upstream [02:32] bugs.kde.org? [02:32] yes [02:32] dear amarok:, no means no [02:32] lol === Tonio___ [n=tonio@224.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lexual [n=lexhider@ppp192-15.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] grmpf....... my internet connection sucks [02:39] or is that freenode ? [02:39] Riddell: Hi, are you about? [02:39] hi lexual [02:39] hi [02:40] I've just come across a strange bug with a amd64 beta install [02:40] not sure which package to file bug against. [02:41] happened with live cd, and when system came up. Keyboard was not responding at all. hit Ctl+Alt+F1 and everything was OK. [02:41] hit Ctl+Alt+F7 again and keyboard was working fine. [02:41] lexual: that's a known problem and has been fixed, although if you could test today's dailys to confirm that would be cool [02:41] Riddell: ace. === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:42] I'll try a daily tomorrow if I have some time. [02:42] Riddell: is it also Amarok's bug that "MP3 support now installed" appears even if you choose Cancel in the dialog box asking for your password? [02:42] what's the url for dailies? [02:43] Jucato: no, that's us [02:43] lexual: cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live [02:43] ah :) [02:43] so just the "No" part? [02:43] lexual: or rsync with the url on KubuntuFiles wiki page against the beta [02:43] Jucato: correct [02:44] Riddell: no idea how to do the rsync one. === luis_lopez [n=luis_lop@68-182-36-41-Public-Marmac-MIPHA.client.eng.telusmobility.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:48] not sure if anyone listens to linux action podcast, but kubuntu got a nice little plug from aseigo saying how he's moved from suse to kubuntu. [02:49] ooh nice :) [02:50] moins fellas [02:51] hi imbrandon :) [02:51] heya Jucato [02:52] wow looks like i made sabdfl's blog /me blushes === lexual [n=lexhider@ppp192-15.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] imbrandon: and nixternal's too [03:01] hey lexual [03:01] heya Hobbsee [03:02] nixternal's too? i dident see that one yet [03:02] yep [03:02] hey [03:03] ahh yea i did there too , wow :) today looks to be a good day ( leaste for my ego ) and you too Hobbsee ;) [03:03] moins [03:03] heya nixternal [03:03] wth are you doing up this early ;) [03:03] i guess i should ask myself that same question [03:03] imbrandon: yep [03:03] Riddell, Tonio_: kde bug 136294 hope I wrote it right... :( [03:03] KDE bug 136294 in general "Amarok dialog doesn't honor "No" and still runs script" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136294 [03:04] hiya Hobbsee! [03:04] hi [03:04] nixternal, heh i had a job interview yesterday so i'm on a diffrent sleep schedule [03:04] i just woke up [03:04] lovely [03:04] not so much, i declined the job ( even though they gave it to me ) [03:04] heh [03:05] i enjoy doing that at times [03:05] lol [03:05] it was for a Solaris Admin job ( that i know absolutely nothing about other than its Unix like ) [03:05] so i told them no thanks ( *sobs* ) [03:07] imbrandon: art-staging.ubuntu.com is your project? [03:07] sounds like a job i did recently [03:08] that is why i miss working in the sun office here in chicago...i wish they would have never closed that office [03:08] Jucato, yea [03:08] imbrandon: you are damn lucky to not have accepted it, I used to work with Solaris a bit, it's a pain :) [03:08] Jucato, actualy art.ubuntu.com is but thats the staging area :) [03:09] imbrandon: so you're responsible for both those sites? great work!! :) [03:09] forget sys admin jobs..the money is with system analysis positions [03:10] heh [03:11] er... Edgy question: duplicate "Default KOrganizer Resource" in Kontact. is this a known bug? [03:12] oh bug 64738 [03:12] Malone bug 64738 in kdepim "New To-dos are duplicated. (duplicate resources entries)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64738 [03:13] just going to confirm it then.... === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] imbrandon: is there an ETA for Edgy release? (so I could estimate in my local timezone) [03:27] umm 26th ? as far as a time , i have no idea [03:28] ah ok :) [03:29] does anyone know where to find the "Launch Feedback" settings in Edgy? (aside from settings:/ and KControl, of course) [03:33] Jucato kcontrol :) [03:33] lol :) [03:34] or right click on the icon and edit it [03:35] imbrandon: no for controlling them: turn them off, change the type of busy cursor, taskbar notification, etc === Tonio___ [n=tonio@7.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:47] the kcontrol display module is that part of kdeguidance? [03:47] yes. [03:48] ok thanks === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:49] Howdy [03:51] hi bddebian [03:51] Heya Jucato === Tonio___ [n=tonio@7.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] I thought all first run wizards were removed? === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-82-219.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === Tonio___ [n=tonio@7.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luis__lopez [n=luis_lop@68-182-36-41-Public-Marmac-MIPHA.client.eng.telusmobility.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.192.210] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.192.210] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.192.210] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [05:07] all new CDs to be testing === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Test the all new CD candidates! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Testing/Current [05:10] i have them rsyncing now [05:10] heya Riddell === mbiebl [n=michael@e180104099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:19] Riddell: have you done any testing on the steps needed to successfully and completely update dapper to edgy? [05:20] fdoving: yes, it's patchy I know [05:20] Riddell: i know too, but i think i may have found the most painless way.. atleast the most painless so far. [05:21] what's that? [05:22] first edit sources.list, then apt-get update, then, the importan part: manually install 'hpijs kde-guidance kde-guidance-powermanager upstart kubuntu-desktop xorg x11-common xserver-xorg' and then 'dist-upgrade'. [05:22] that will leave you with just the python packages held back. [05:23] which is pretty good compared to what you get if you just run 'apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade' after changing sources.list to edgy. [05:23] ok time to head to the trade show and pimp kubuntu ( along with giving away 200cd's ) see yall in an hour or two [05:23] imbrandon: enjoy :) === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] nixternal: how's the release announcement page? === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Bye."] [05:41]